The Joe Budden Podcast - Episode 851: "It’s Gonna Take Me An Army"
Release Date: August 13, 2025
Hosts: Joe Budden, Ish, Melissa Ford, Mark Lamont Hill, Flip, Parks
1. Relationship Trust and Communication
(00:32 - 06:26)
The episode kicks off with a candid discussion about trust and communication within personal relationships. Joe Budden initiates the conversation by addressing the natural tendency to build profiles on people, even subconsciously.
- Joe Budden: “I can’t compound the lies like I. I tell you the truth always wins.” [03:04]
This segues into a deeper dive into his own relationship dynamics, specifically focusing on the practice of sending “I’m home” texts to ensure his partner’s safety.
- Ish: “They don’t give a About your safety.” [04:10]
- Joe Budden: “That’s the part they will never admit.” [04:13]
Joe emphasizes the complexity of trust, explaining how seemingly simple actions like sending a text can be misconstrued.
2. Host Personalities: Being "Tough to Be With"
(06:27 - 09:53)
The hosts turn the spotlight on themselves, each sharing personal traits that make them challenging partners.
- Melissa Ford: “I’m just stubborn.” [07:00]
- Flip: “I’m stubborn and ignorant...” [08:09]
- Mark Lamont Hill: “Workaholic.” [07:12]
This segment highlights the diversity of personalities within the group and fosters a relatable discussion on the complexities of maintaining healthy relationships.
3. Insights from the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) Conference
(11:28 - 26:21)
The conversation shifts to their experiences at the NABJ Conference held in Cleveland. The hosts discuss networking opportunities, the importance of supporting black journalists, and the potential for future collaborations.
- Joe Budden: “We should do a workshop or a class on podcasting for them.” [12:06]
- Mark Lamont Hill: “Next year is in Atlanta and the year after is Houston.” [11:57]
Highlights include discussions on attending workshops, meeting influential figures, and the significance of events like the national association of black journalists in fostering community and professional growth.
4. David Justice and Halle Berry Relationship Controversy
(34:46 - 58:44)
A pivotal segment delves into the tumultuous relationship between former Atlanta Braves player David Justice and actress Halle Berry. The hosts analyze Justice’s public statements regarding alleged abuse and the subsequent media portrayal.
- Melissa Ford: “He was him, she was her. They are the power couple before the term was even coined.” [44:22]
- Mark Lamont Hill: “Halle impressed on Oprah... describes the effect it had on her and her suicide attempt.” [37:03]
They critically assess Justice’s claims and Halle Berry’s accounts, debating the impact of media narratives on public perception. The discussion underscores the challenges of addressing past misconduct and the importance of corroborating evidence in such sensitive matters.
5. Media Business: UFC and South Park Streaming Deals
(58:44 - 120:00)
The hosts explore significant developments in the media landscape, focusing on the UFC’s monumental $7.7 billion streaming deal and South Park’s acquisition by Paramount/CBS.
- Joe Budden: “The UFC is already huge, but almost you...” [65:09]
- Melissa Ford: “She was part of the first wave to sponsor our projects.” [119:00]
They discuss the ramifications of these deals, including platform consolidation, the end of traditional pay-per-view models, and the shifting power dynamics within the entertainment industry. The conversation highlights concerns about the monopolization of content and its effects on diversity and accessibility.
6. Consumer Behavior and Target’s Status
(120:17 - 133:55)
A lively debate ensues over Target stores appearing unusually empty, sparking theories about a boycott or demographic shifts.
- Joe Budden: “I know we don’t highlight it, cuz there’s no way to ever tell.” [120:17]
- Melissa Ford: “They used to... It’d be like too open now.” [120:55]
The hosts analyze possible reasons behind the decline in foot traffic, considering economic factors, changing consumer preferences, and broader societal trends. This segment reflects on how businesses adapt to evolving market conditions and the role of consumer activism.
7. Movie Review: "Sinners"
(91:00 - 118:54)
The podcast features an in-depth review of the horror-thriller film "Sinners." The hosts discuss its plot, character development, and execution of suspense elements.
- Melissa Ford: “It was a really good movie... it was both a good movie and scary.” [111:56]
- Joe Budden: “It’s scary, but it’s not a horror movie.” [112:00]
They praise the film's originality, effective use of jump scares, and strong performances, particularly highlighting the balance between horror and storytelling. The review concludes with high recommendations for listeners seeking fresh takes in the genre.
8. Colorism and Stereotypes in Black Media
(70:00 - 86:02)
A critical discussion on colorism within black media, sparked by Ari Lennox’s comments on the portrayal of characters in the classic sitcom "Martin."
- Ish: “It's easy for me to accept fame if I got Abdullah the Butcher eating a turnbuckle.” [80:47]
- Melissa Ford: “It’s about stereotypes and assumptions... dangerous.” [75:02]
The hosts examine how media representations perpetuate harmful stereotypes, particularly towards darker-complexioned women. They advocate for more nuanced and respectful portrayals to combat ingrained biases and promote positive role models within the community.
9. Investing and Financial Community Issues
(Throughout the Episode)
Interspersed with broader discussions are segments focused on financial literacy, investing, and the dynamics within the financial community. The hosts share personal experiences of mentoring and the challenges of building trust and investment relationships.
- Ish: “I’ve been trying to get into some of these companies for investing...” [114:07]
- Flip: “A lot of people... have taken a space that was unbeknownst to a whole bunch of black people...” [179:03]
They emphasize the importance of ethical investing, the pitfalls of misplaced trust, and the need for accountability within financial ventures. This dialogue highlights ongoing efforts to empower the black community through financial education and responsible investing.
10. Conclusion and Final Thoughts
(188:00 - End)
As the episode winds down, the hosts reflect on the discussions, reiterate key points, and extend well-wishes to their listeners. They also touch upon upcoming events and express gratitude towards their community.
- Joe Budden: “Good vibe. Good time, man. Hopefully y’ all have enjoyed this broadcast...” [190:03]
- Ish: “The world is on fire... we're seeing more lawlessness...” [159:32]
The episode concludes with light-hearted banter and a reaffirmation of their commitment to delivering engaging and meaningful content.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps
- Joe Budden: “I tell you the truth always wins.” [03:04]
- Ish: “They don’t give a About your safety.” [04:10]
- Melissa Ford: “I’m just stubborn.” [07:00]
- Joe Budden: “We won.” [120:55]
- Melissa Ford: “He shouldn't have married her.” [51:35]
- Mark Lamont Hill: “She’s part of the first wave to sponsor our projects.” [119:00]
- Ish: “I'm glad you're back.” [13:11]
Key Takeaways
- Trust and Communication: Effective communication is crucial in maintaining trust within relationships. Small gestures can have significant impacts.
- Personal Growth: Hosts share personal traits that may present challenges in relationships, fostering a relatable and authentic dialogue.
- Community Engagement: Participation in events like the NABJ Conference highlights the importance of networking and supporting black professionals.
- Media Responsibility: Analyzing past controversies, such as the Justice-Berry relationship, underscores the role of media in shaping public perception and the need for responsible reporting.
- Industry Shifts: Massive deals in the media industry, like those involving the UFC and South Park, reflect ongoing changes in how content is distributed and consumed.
- Social Issues: Discussions on colorism and stereotypes in black media advocate for more respectful and accurate representations.
- Financial Empowerment: Emphasis on ethical investing and financial literacy serves to empower listeners and promote economic growth within the community.
- Cultural Reflection: Reviewing "Sinners" and other media offers insights into evolving storytelling techniques and audience expectations.
This episode weaves together personal narratives, critical analyses of media and societal issues, and lively interactions among the hosts, providing listeners with a comprehensive and engaging experience.