Episode 856 | "Pillow Talk"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 856 | "Pillow Talk"
Date: August 30, 2025
Host: Joe Budden (A)
Co-hosts/Regulars: Queens Flip (D), Ish (C), Parks (B), Freeze/Ice (C), plus crew (Po, Corey, Erickson, Savon, Tanner – supporting roles via remote or background)

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Episode Overview

Episode 856, titled "Pillow Talk," is quintessential Joe Budden Podcast: a blend of jokes, real-life stories, barbershop-style debates, industry takes, and plenty of musical deep-dives. The crew welcomes back Freeze, fresh from a birthday trip to Jamaica, which triggers a hilarious and telling conversation about relationships, masculinity, and the nuances of "pillow talk." The episode then turns its sharp and comedic eye toward the ongoing “Snitch Olympics” in hip hop, dissecting leaks from the Young Thug interrogation and the related conversations about street codes and authenticity.

In its second half, the show reviews new music (Joey Badass, Gun, Division), with an added focus on the evolving R&B landscape and industry strategies in the streaming era. The team also touches on sports controversies (the Dallas Cowboys’ front office in hot water), celebrity lawsuits (Cardi B’s courtroom charisma), and the state of hip hop radio.

Throughout, there is a running thread of playful roasting, therapy-by-mic, and the real connections that keep the pod tight.

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Key Topics & Memorable Highlights

1. Freeze’s Birthday Trip and the Jamaican Raft Story

[00:56–05:54]

• The crew welcomes back Freeze (Ice) and teases him about his “massage” experience during his Jamaican trip for his girlfriend’s birthday; speculation about who actually gave the massage (Freeze vs. the local Jamaican “raft man”).
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Joe: “Your lady’s shoulders were looking mad tense afterwards.”
  • Freeze: “Nah, she was good.”
  • Joe: “She didn’t get the knots out like homeboy.”
  • Freeze: “Oh, no, they was out. Knocked him right out.” [03:35–03:39]
• The guys riff on men not wanting other men to massage their women, ending up in a tangle of jokes about masculinity and insecurity.
• Discussion of reconnecting with fathers when visiting Jamaica, and the myths/debates about “dads caring about you as an adult.”

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2. What Should Grown Men Call Their Fathers? ("Daddy" Debate)

[05:27–09:15]

• Controversy and clowning ensue over Flip still calling his father “Daddy.”
  • Flip: “I call my dad Daddy. I don’t give a fuck.” [07:06–07:09]
• The guys question whether some traditional terms become odd or “suspect” (according to their relentless ribbing) as you get older, especially depending on where you’re from.

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3. Text Etiquette, Masculinity, and "Slithers"

[22:33–25:57]

• Joe tells a story about texting his friend that he's "about to throw something on" and immediately realizing “that sounds wild.”
  • Parks: “I’m immature, but you can’t text that. That’s a sliver.” [23:32]
• The crew introduces the running joke of "slithers"—small but suspiciously questionable, possibly “sus” behaviors or statements.
• Broadens into playful condemnation of mildly “zesty” language among men—an ongoing inside joke.

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4. Pillow Talk: Debate and Therapy

[75:16–88:57]

• The episode’s namesake segment: Flip cannot believe Joe openly admits to pillow talking with his girl.
• Flip: “I don’t discuss anything about anybody up here. I don’t discuss my business. I don’t discuss anything...” [75:59]
• Joe: “I pillow talk with my girl. If I can’t, I’m getting divorced.” [76:35]
• The discussion splits: Is talking openly with your partner about your day and your friends a breach of bro code, or healthy vulnerability?
• Parks notes, “Just because you pillow talk with your girl doesn’t mean you’re necessarily kicking your friends’ backs in.” [80:45]
• They admit the women, in turn, bring way more group chat energy and dish more about their friends than the guys do about theirs.
• Joe: “I love pillow talking, too. It’s not just that I do it—I really enjoy it.” [84:05]
• The segment is self-aware, insightful, and full of the group’s classic bravado.

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5. The "Snitch Olympics" in Hip Hop

[30:00–54:50]

• Analysis of leaked Young Thug interrogation audio and public reactions.
• Joe frames the broader issue: “They calling Atlanta Ratlanta. Ralo and Thug have been back and forth for…I wish they would take me out the group chat.” [32:16]
• Multiple hosts break down what was actually said, whether it constitutes “telling,” and the hypocrisy in community responses.
• Ish: “Nothing Thug said was used to put nobody in jail…It’s the same defense people are putting on Gunna.” [40:37]
• Joe’s broader point: the obsession with “ratting” in hip hop is misplaced energy:
  • “This whole who’s a rat and who’s not thing…Y’all need to get a hobby.” [48:07; 49:15]
• Flip, Ish, and others offer sociological context, what “the streets” once meant vs. now, and the manufactured nature of much contemporary “street” image.

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6. Music Industry Changes & New Releases

[128:50–152:14]

• Breakdown of new music from Joey Badass (Lonely at the Top), Gun, Division, and more.
• Parks complains about artists not listing features (“That shit is annoying, especially when it’s someone that I don’t know.” [142:04])
• Joe raves about Division’s return to form and the power of classic R&B structure:
  • “Classic Division. If it starts like this, you know what time it is…” [144:49]

Industry Strategy Tidbit (Streaming/Jukebox Tricks)

[163:43–166:11]

• Ish introduces the "maxi single" digital trick: Glasses Malone releases a 7-minute song as 7 separate 40-second tracks (each a different verse), trying to game the streaming system for higher play counts.
• The group discusses whether this method could catch on and broader frustrations with streaming exploitation.

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7. Cardi B Lawsuit and Courtroom Comedy

[93:29–97:45]

• Cardi B is being sued for a minor altercation with a security guard; her courtroom candor and authenticity is celebrated.
• Parks: “Whoever that lawyer is, is getting his ass whooped.” [93:39]
• Joe notes, “Cardi is too charming and too funny…She’s going to win over the whole courthouse.” [96:35]
• The group sides with Cardi and laughs at the pettiness of the lawsuit.

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8. Funkmaster Flex & Hot 97 Shakeup

[116:03–124:12]

• The crew analyzes the confusing “retirement” promo from Flex and clarifies it was just a timeslot change.
• They reflect on how important Flex, DJ Enough, and Camillo have been for NY radio, and riff on the nostalgia for moments like Flex premiering “Otis.”
  • “Flex personifies hip hop.” – Ish [122:35]

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9. Debate: Dallas Cowboys, Management, and Race

[192:30–203:56]

• Joe and Ish square off about the Cowboys' handling of Micah Parsons’ contract/trade, the appropriateness of Jerry Jones’ business style, and whether racial undertones played a role.
• Joe (passionately): “You cannot bypass someone’s agent. You can’t do that nowhere.” [200:54]
• Ish pushes back, questioning the attribution of racism, noting Jones’ history, and arguing for broader context.

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10. Running Jokes, Signature Segments, and Freestyle Banter

• "Slithers" Counter: Constant tallying of questionable, potentially “sus” behavior or phrases.
• Pam as Body Oil: Jokes about women using PAM cooking spray for shine on stage or in beauty routines. [65:12–66:45]
• “Decent Man from the City of Demons”: Joe gets obsessed with a viral musician’s oddball performance, repeatedly singing the hook and cracking up the room.
• Group Chat with the Audience: Ongoing asides between pod members about what gets shared at home vs. among the group; audience as an implicit part of the inside jokes.

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11. R&B Renaissance and Song Challenges

[172:42–179:23]

• Joe hails Kehlani’s “Folded” as the R&B song of the summer. He celebrates Mario’s unofficial “men’s response” and the subsequent TikTok/social media challenge.
  • “This is one of my favorite music challenges not birthed by Tank in a long time.” [176:48]

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12. Other Noteworthy Moments

• Jussie Smollett doc reviewed: “I appreciate the type of liar that Jussie Smollett is…That’s my favorite kind of liar.” – Joe [105:22]
• Makonin’s chef pivot highlighted as an example of artists finding happiness outside of music (with a classic mid-praise roast).
• Emojis and the politics of “praying hands”: Joe rants about friends choosing different skin tones for their emojis and reading into the implications. [212:54–214:39]

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Notable Quotes

• Joe Budden:

  • “I pillow talk with my girl. If I can’t, I’m getting divorced.” [76:35]
  • “This whole 'who’s a rat and who’s not' thing…Y’all need to get a hobby.” [48:07]
  • “You’re lit, you’re good, but it’s like glorified slaves. It’s people that are grossing and earning millions and millions for other people. And it affords you the luxury to get out here and act a complete fucking fool.” [50:12]
  • “I love pillow talking, too. It’s not just that I do it—I really enjoy it.” [84:05]

• Parks:

  • “Just because you pillow talk with your girl doesn’t mean you’re necessarily kicking your friends’ backs in.” [80:45]
  • “Whoever that lawyer is, is getting his ass whooped.” (re: Cardi B lawsuit) [93:39]
  • “That shit is annoying, especially when it’s someone that I don’t know.” (re: uncredited features) [142:04]

• Ish:

  • “When they love you, you can do no wrong. And when they hate you, you can do no right. That’s the rule of the new hip hop.” [63:00]
  • “Sometimes you gotta get out your bag and realize. All right, that ain’t work.” (on Division’s musical direction) [149:38]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Freeze’s Jamaica Recap & Massage Debate: 00:56–05:54
• "Daddy" Grown Men Banter: 05:27–09:15
• Texting Faux Pas/Slithers: 22:33–25:57
• Pillow Talk Main Debate: 75:16–88:57
• Snitch Olympics/Young Thug Discourse: 30:00–54:50
• Cardi B Lawsuit: 93:29–97:45
• New Music Discussion (Joey Badass, Gun, Division): 128:50–152:14
• Streaming “Maxi Single” Tricks: 163:43–166:11
• Funkmaster Flex & Hot 97 Format Changes: 116:03–124:12
• Cowboys/Micah Parsons Management Drama: 192:30–203:56
• Kehlani “Folded” & R&B Challenge: 172:42–179:23

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Tone and Structure

• Language: Raw, honest, self-aware, peppered with classic hip hop vernacular, clever euphemism, and unfiltered opinions.
• Group Dynamic: Equal parts rowdy barbershop/Jersey living room, interspersed with moments of surprising vulnerability and genuine reflection.
• Audience Role: The podcast, though sometimes irreverent, always nods to the fanbase—explaining inside jokes, making them part of the ongoing conversation.

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Summary

Episode 856 is a case study in how “guy talk,” hip hop culture, comedy, and relationship honesty collide. The return of Freeze warms the group, spurring jokes and real talk on masculinity and home life. The central “Pillow Talk” debate is laced with both humor and insight, challenging gender expectations with uncommon candor. The group’s recurring skewering of the hip hop world’s fixation on “snitching” exposes changing values and the blurred lines between authenticity and branding.

The show’s second half delves deeply into R&B’s resurgence and creative industry strategies, while heated debates surface around sports business and issues of race and power.

With laughter, passionate disagreements, and an endless flow of recommendations and references, "Pillow Talk" is a vibrant microcosm of The Joe Budden Podcast’s enduring appeal.

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For Listeners

If you haven’t heard the episode:

• Expect classic pod banter, group therapy, and barbershop jokes.
• The "Pillow Talk" discussion is especially worth a listen for perspectives on masculinity, vulnerability, and relationships.
• Deep dives into music industry shifts and codes of hip hop authenticity are front and center.
• Music heads will find strong, early reviews of new R&B and hip hop.
• Don’t miss the crew clowning on each other, and the surprisingly sage wisdom that comes out in between.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

We are now.

[A]

All right, let's get all our on air voices and Personas together. And Flip this dry. Check me.

[B]

Flips were fired up.

[C]

Yeah, Flip. Flip walked in on one.

[D]

Yeah, I'm excited to be here.

[A]

He's just loading up for me to do a super R Duke in. When it comes like all this, I'm letting. I be letting him cook. But when the. It's gonna be the super street fighters.

[C]

Super.

[A]

Our Duke with the Hurricane, the turn and the. It's gonna go on for like five minutes. You know the one we keep Flip getting this off now, though. What's up, y'? All?

[C]

What's up?

[D]

What's up?

[A]

Yo, Big Freeze. Welcome back in the building for Freeze.

[C]

Thank y'.

[A]

All. Miss you, Freeze. I miss y', all, Freeze.

[C]

I feel like this was like a month.

[D]

Let's go, Freeze.

[B]

One little day. You took two. One little day will feel like a month.

[A]

Two pods off is an eternity in real lifetime. For real.

[D]

So what you did to the Jamaican. Pushed him right off the boat.

[A]

Gave. That was crazy.

[D]

He gave the missing piece the massage. Nigga, that's not your job.

[A]

She made him the missing piece. He made him the missing piece. Yeah, we saw, but we what?

[C]

What I'm supposed to do. He gonna rub her down while I'm right there.

[D]

That's the experience that you paid for. But you didn't.

[A]

You didn't.

[C]

She got the massage from who?

[A]

Me?

[C]

Yo, that's not.

[A]

Freeze.

[B]

Said I ain't one drop a cucking me, boy.

[C]

Yeah, we don't play them games. Be a big dog.

[A]

But you are not a licensed masseuse neither is he. Your audience out there just being freaky. Your audience? Yeah.

[C]

You can't do the coconut oil like him, man.

[A]

Breeze went to Jamaica. Him and his lovely lady for her birthday. Big Virgos. Virgos, stand up. They took a picture on the raft. On the raft. There's normally a Jamaican man cock diesel in way better shape than Freeze to give the massage. And the girls like that. They take the picture. Oh, my God. And it's a big thing on the net now if your man is there, I've seen him also on the raft. And then there's the option for your man to kick homeboy off the raft altogether. As God would have it in Freeze's picture, this man was nowhere to be found.

[B]

I don't think that Freeze can do the rowing like that.

[C]

Oh, no, I ain't do the rowing. I let him do the rowing. We got to the side.

[A]

I don't think Freeze can massage like, dude.

[C]

Oh, no. My massage game. Crazy.

[A]

Your girl off air said that you was taking instructions from the dude that you kicked off about how to give a massage.

[C]

No, not how to give a massage. That's not what I got the instruction for. It's that it's some limestone shit. It's like a rock. And it's a way to do that.

[D]

Yeah, that's what you mean.

[C]

No, no, no. How to turn it into some paste shit that they. Yeah. Not how to massage my.

[A]

That's part of the massage.

[C]

I get that.

[A]

So you had to take instructions.

[C]

Prepping. Prepping the.

[A]

The tools.

[C]

Yeah. And then get your ass out of here.

[A]

My. Oh, good looking.

[C]

I got it now. I got it.

[D]

Freeze is crazy.

[C]

Yo, I put it on the pan.

[A]

I can put it.

[B]

I take back the ounce of cook. There's one little slipper. It's a sliver. Just a sliver.

[C]

I got it from here. Yay. Damn.

[A]

Your lady's shoulders were looking mad tense afterwards.

[C]

Nah, she was good.

[A]

She didn't get the knots out like homeboy.

[C]

Oh, no. They was out. Knocked him right out.

[A]

Yeah. I'm so happy Freeze is back, man.

[D]

Happy to see you, Freeze.

[A]

Did you have a good time out there?

[C]

Amazing time, bro. Amazing. We had a great time. Ate a lot, drank a lot, partied a lot.

[B]

No kids.

[C]

Oh, them kids. That was our theme for the entire trip. Like, adults only spot. I was like, I only want to see a kid. Like, I see a kid, I'm gonna get hives.

[A]

I can't believe kids are still being born. I'm with you. Yeah.

[D]

Did you see your father?

[C]

I didn't. Didn't get to because he had some business on the other side. He couldn't make it to me in time. And he was explaining how it is with personal drivers and shit out there.

[A]

It's really rough.

[C]

So he was like, you know, I'm gonna invite you when I'm. When I'm better ready for you to look out.

[A]

Okay. All right. First of all, don't do that again. When we having fun and a good time and keeping the energy light. Don't bring f dads into it. Don't come right in with such a hardcore question. Number one, now that I got that out the way, I'm a joke on round two. But number two, my dad said the same thing back in the day.

[C]

I'm gonna get you next time.

[D]

From Queens to Harlem.

[C]

You was here all summer.

[A]

I ain't even know, kid. I didn't even know.

[C]

Shout out to my pops, man. I love you, Pops.

[A]

You up.

[D]

Stop.

[A]

Don't do that. Ice was out there for mad long, too. You could have freed up. Don't do that. Niggas dance.

[B]

Man, you should have tried to link your pops with foot pops.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Your pops in Jamaica, right?

[D]

My father is in Jamaica, but I make sure I go see him. I drive. That's my man. I can't see him freeze. But hey, hey, hey, hey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Next time. Next time. I got it.

[A]

We meant it here, so we can say it now. At a certain age, you don't need to see your kid like, dad hit 65 and don't give a. About what they kid is doing. They know that's not true. Crazy.

[D]

I mean. I mean, they do live their life.

[A]

But your dad ain't thinking about you right now.

[C]

This is a fool.

[D]

Yes, he is.

[A]

He is not.

[D]

I mean, he's living. He is living his life.

[A]

Y' all overrate these dads these days.

[D]

Okay? Some of our dad's been in our lives the whole trip, period. One, two. My dad is in Jamaica. Of course he thinks about me because I call him and check on him and he calls and check on me, but he also don't wanna. If he calls me a couple of times and I keep saying, y', all, daddy, I'm busy. He's not gonna keep calling. He's gonna wait till I call him.

[C]

Right?

[A]

Right.

[D]

But if I'm there, I'm there. I'm see. I stay with him. I see. That's my man. Watch your mouth.

[B]

Yo, call your pops Daddy.

[A]

You still call your dad Daddy?

[D]

I do. I had a dream about him yesterday. Calling him Daddy, hugging him in front of everybody. Had a dream.

[A]

All right. He got a slither of that shit in him, too. He got one.

[D]

A gayness.

[A]

No, no. Sorry.

[D]

Wait, what?

[A]

That was wrong. Some other.

[D]

Everything is really tricky with you. Parks call my father. So people had. People made fun of me about that. Still calling my dad Daddy at this age.

[C]

We about to make fun of you.

[A]

About that now for the rest of life.

[D]

Well, I got to call him Pops or Daddy. JR Call me Pops now. I call my dad Daddy. I don't give A fuck.

[A]

You let.

[C]

You let J.R. call you Daddy?

[D]

He been calling me Pops his whole life.

[C]

If he decided to call you Daddy.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. It's different, though.

[C]

No, it ain't.

[A]

No, it ain't. He got a slither and a half. Might be two slithers at this point. You got some grated cheese?

[D]

So wait, calling Daddy should not be. I should not call my Daddy?

[A]

That sounds nuts to me. But I mean, really.

[D]

You call your father Pop, right?

[A]

Or dad.

[D]

You call him Pops.

[A]

What do you call him? Pops?

[D]

Okay, J.R. call me Pops. You call your father Pops.

[A]

Oh, dad.

[D]

Dad is even recipes. Recipes.

[A]

Dad is even like.

[C]

I'm not calling you Daddy.

[D]

When did. Why do we take a word?

[A]

I told my dad I'm the real Joe Button. Now sit back. Oh. Oh.

[B]

Pops gonna. You up.

[C]

Nah, that's gonna come back to you. Wait till Trey said.

[D]

Because girls highlighted the word.

[A]

Yep, a good one.

[D]

Yeah, because the women highlighted the word of calling a they Daddy. They made that word.

[A]

What?

[D]

Disgusting? No, it's my dad as a kid.

[A]

You call your father Daddy?

[C]

No, he didn't.

[D]

All right, let's move on.

[A]

There's nothing wrong with that if that's your bag. But it does sound wild how unless.

[C]

You'Re from Yonkers, you can't call your.

[A]

Father Daddy as an adult. Almost 40 year old man. What are you talking about? You don't know.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

You sound crazy.

[C]

Don't call. Yeah, no.

[D]

Do you think the difference between cuz I might have Caribbean blood in me that may. That play.

[A]

Don't try to. No, no, don't try to. Don't try to do that. You be doing.

[D]

I'm just talking about what I'll be doing.

[A]

I'm trying. Don't try to get me in that.

[D]

You already.

[A]

I'm talking about you already being an adult.

[D]

Yeah, call.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, okay. I'm still calling my father Daddy. That's my dad.

[C]

I mean, again, you got three slithers. That's your thing.

[D]

Three slithers.

[C]

Three.

[D]

Now they show me down.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think you should have.

[B]

Asked for people to hold you down.

[A]

That's the last person they ask you to hold down, right? I don't.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Don't get it started. You know what?

[D]

He'd be waiting.

[A]

Don't get him started. Yeah, I'm chilling, man. I don't want to smoke with y'. All.

[D]

I was saying earlier that I' ma snuff you outside. I can't snuff you in here because you know, a lot. There's A lot that come. It come with snuffing you in here. You got the downstairs, you got.

[A]

You got Cory, Corey and I'm pulled up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You what? Wow. What?

[D]

What? I'm sorry.

[B]

That's also.

[C]

That's a sliver.

[A]

That's a sl.

[D]

But outside, cuz a couple of that popped on you got away outside. So I'mma try my look outside.

[A]

I wasn't pulled up.

[C]

Yo.

[A]

Are you crazy? It's a joke.

[D]

You go ban me dad, you gonna keep playing?

[A]

Went to my clothes another day I closed.

[C]

Congratulations.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Congratulations. Congratulations for your purpose. What's wrong with you? Clap. Don't. Don't give me congratulations, but don't give me a silen. Congratulations.

[C]

It wasn't silent. I said in orange.

[A]

Make me believe it.

[B]

It's the first hour, huh?

[C]

I don't even know. Just.

[A]

Oh yeah, man. Cursing, right?

[B]

No, no, I wasn't saying that. I was saying. He's not warmed up yet.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Remember that. He like that.

[A]

Anyway.

[D]

Like that. Watch out, mouth.

[A]

But you close the closing. Closing was a lot smoother than some of my other clothings.

[D]

Oh, really?

[A]

Closings are different do. Huh? I don't think they all the same.

[D]

How many steps?

[C]

I guess you close. They. They vary.

[A]

It's done done though.

[D]

So this is.

[A]

Yeah, that means.

[D]

Break the tables and boy them cabinets.

[A]

Yeah, you already. Yo, it's. You said what?

[D]

I was ready.

[A]

What?

[D]

Oh, I can't. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Everything lines up, right? Yeah. Headed out. Headed somewhere new, right? Yeah, you see?

[A]

No, don't do that. I need you for 190 more days. I'm good.

[D]

No, you keep trying to kick me out.

[C]

So no.

[B]

Reverse psychology.

[A]

That was good. It's. What's up, man?

[C]

Good day, sir.

[A]

You got your outfit? For what?

[B]

You see it?

[C]

Oh yeah, I got it.

[A]

You see it set the up parts. Do you really?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He was a little worried about that last minute.

[C]

Yeah, was ass over. Yeah. That is not a good experience.

[B]

You had to go off the rack.

[C]

When you scrambling and running around like that. That is annoying. Last minute.

[B]

Can't be.

[C]

And I'm not like when you were 42. 44, you got the pick of the litter. That is different. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So that was annoying as when you were 42.

[A]

44.

[B]

You talking about suit size, jacket size.

[A]

Who the hell is that?

[C]

Parks. Who else is Corey, probably.

[A]

No, Corey just wear that tight.

[C]

That's how it's supposed to fit.

[A]

Tight.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This ain't the 90s.

[D]

You did it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you. That Tom Ford Taylor was tailoring. Yeah, he's sick. I went to go pick my suit up.

[C]

Pin you up?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I went to go pick that suit up and thought I was leaving out the door.

[C]

He said, homeboy, put that on.

[A]

Put that on now in case I got some things. And then go sit down for a little bit.

[C]

And we work today.

[A]

Well, he in there.

[C]

No, I'm just saying we work today. So they like, yo, come get your tomorrow. And you can't come get it tomorrow, so now I gotta go get it on Saturday. All of that is. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

He put that on, boy. He put that on. We started taking pictures together. Yeah, that's how that was looking.

[C]

That is annoying, bro.

[A]

Oh, my Lord. All right, who's ready to have some fun? What type of pot we have today, man? Fun.

[B]

I think we should do a fun pod.

[A]

Freeze is back, man.

[C]

Need a fun pod, man.

[A]

Man, Freeze is.

[C]

I missed y', all, dog. I know I said a bunch of.

[A]

Times, but we missed you, bro.

[B]

Not the same. Not the same without you.

[C]

You a bring no Cheney root. Back sauce, Barilla back rock.

[A]

Yo, there's no place like this place at all.

[D]

Reality hit him.

[A]

Parks is just stupid.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit.

[A]

All right, man. Amani said it's Mike Jack's birthday yesterday.

[B]

I thought you were gonna play Prince.

[A]

No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that, man. Get a little mic set real quick. It's feeling good, feeling great. She said I am the one. Go dance on the floor. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to all the artists out there. Entertainers, the executives, everybody to make this go round. Shout out to fans, first and foremost, Everybody on vacation, coming back from vacation. Hey. Shout out to all the Virgos out there, Everybody celebrating a birthday. 40 and up, 40 and up. Girl, let that rhythm get into you. Don't try to fight. Hey, everybody in the Hamptons and all that, you know what I mean? Anybody in Staten island just. Cause Shout out to y' all skate 22 and all that. It goes all night, you know you made me feel so good inside.

[C]

This nigga was amazing, bro.

[A]

I've always wanted a good one. This nigga is amazing. Such a pyt.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Where did you come from, baby? And who won't you take me back? Gotta wait, hold your baby. Shout out to all the Uber drivers, all the truck drivers out there, Rest in peace to all the greats, all the DJs out there.

[D]

Pretty young thing.

[A]

You need some loving care and I'll take it there Girl, I want to love you Pretty young man, you need some loving all right, I promise, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

We get started in a minute. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5. This.

[D]

Think he hit DJ, you know about the dish.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I mean.

[A]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, shit. It's my man calling right now. Hey, nigga decline. Get out of here. My bad, y'. All.

[D]

Did you know what it is? You know what?

[A]

Shout out to all the ladies out there. Whole New Jersey, New York, Philadelphia, what's going on? Dc, Virginia, what's good? Carolina's what's up. Here you go.

[C]

Would never be the same the girl.

[A]

You came and changed the way I walk, the way I talk I cannot explain, you know what I mean? It's for the old nigga to hit a little two step when it come on right here. Sing, sing. That's my bag, you know what I mean? It's when you grab the lady that you love, look her in the eyes and all that and start singing to her. Get a little spin move and all that. Little swirl. Hey, shout out to summer 25. Microphone check. 1, 2, 1, 2. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. Let me get these drops out the way real quick. So glad that y' all could be here with us today. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us celebrating life. Flip, flip, flip. What's popping?

[B]

What's popping?

[A]

What episode is this?

[B]

856.

[A]

Welcome to episode 856 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Pits Prize Picks. Gang, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here celebrating a birthday soon. Host Joe Button here with with some really amazing people to my right, none other than Queens. Flip in the building next to him. King Wawa himself. Ish in the building next to him. Freeze is back. Yes, sir. Freeziest of them all. Makes a noise for Freeze. Big Parks is here. Po is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you, you guys is here.

[C]

And my favorite, Virgo is also here.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

Shout out to anybody that's here.

[A]

You did the right thing.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

For sure, you did the right thing. Hey. Hey. Missing peace. I tried to set him up. Hey, Missing piece. I tried to set him up. Skip. You see? See what side of the fence he was on? See if he wanted somebody in the audience to know if wifey was here or not. We gotta make sure. We gotta keep these niggas acting right. You heard me Anyway. Yeah. Yo, niggas know what time it is. If your girl is around, I'm on her side already. I know girls around. I'm on her side. And you did it.

[C]

You explained that. You told me that the last episode.

[A]

Yeah, long would you know it. What's up, y'?

[C]

All?

[A]

How y' all doing?

[D]

Chilling, man. We here having fun.

[A]

Happy to see everybody.

[D]

Happy to be here.

[A]

Good, good. Y' all looking good. You're smelling good.

[D]

Yeah, hopefully we do. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

What up, y'?

[C]

All? Good day, sir.

[D]

Yo, I'm just happy to see my niggas, you know, Dude, Cass minus our other brother, but you know he'll be here later and, you know we ready to turn up, man.

[A]

Good. I'm happy about that. You ready to talk about the Rat Olympics?

[B]

Oh, that's what you want? You want to start running with it?

[A]

You already. I mean, we didn't really have a talk. Hold on, let me see. Because somebody called and knew I was recording, so let me get a call. Has been full banging on you. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You crazy. I got a triple call. Your call has. Now you done that off. Now you're done.

[D]

You got a text. You ain't him.

[A]

Now you're done. Oh, speaking of speaking of text, I promise we're gonna start. This ain't about nothing. Speaking of texts, that you shouldn't text your male friends.

[B]

Daddy.

[C]

That's high up.

[B]

That's high up there.

[A]

Yesterday, I was being spontaneous. I was like, you know what? I want some sliders, man. Call up Kino, see if you feel like getting some sliders. But I ain't call. I text him, say, here gonna go slide this thing about going. He said, yeah, man, well, that's a good idea. I'm about to go down right now. And then I said in text that you shouldn't text your male friends. Okay, bet I'm throwing something on.

[B]

I'm throwing something.

[A]

Throwing some on. Then I looked at it, I said, boss, yo, you can't text. I'm throwing something on.

[C]

No, you can't.

[B]

You can't. No, that's a little crazy. It's another thing.

[A]

I'm immature.

[C]

But you can't. That's a sliver.

[B]

Yeah, it's a sliver or something.

[C]

You can't text a girl that. You're not supposed to say that.

[A]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[C]

You're not supposed to text nobody.

[D]

I'm about to get dressed.

[A]

You might be right. Yeah, yeah. You talking getting dressed, but throwing something on means something. It's different from getting dressed.

[C]

It means something for them.

[A]

No, that's not true. Actually, you're wrong.

[C]

No, no.

[A]

The more now that I heard it.

[C]

Okay, we all know what it means.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You not supposed to say it.

[A]

Really? Yes. Y' all don't say throwing something on.

[C]

No.

[A]

Y' all have never said throwing something.

[B]

Throw something on the grill.

[D]

Let me. Let me throw something. Let me throw something on. What? I don't understand what y'. All. Mom.

[A]

Yo, I'm on my way. I'm about to throw something on. Nobody's ever said that, Daddy.

[D]

Nah. Hey. Yeah.

[A]

All right. Put me down for a slither.

[D]

That's what Sl.

[C]

Got your boy shorts and a robe.

[A]

Like, that's what they mean.

[C]

Let me throw something more to come open the door.

[A]

Like, yo.

[C]

Nah, I'm good, dog.

[D]

I'm about to put some clothes on my.

[C]

I'm getting dressed.

[A]

Y' all too manly for me. Okay, why you pausing then? Cuz, I read it.

[C]

I know. And you knew, and you said it.

[A]

And if I said somebody text me.

[C]

That you got a sn.

[A]

Maybe. All right.

[B]

Are you dangling right now?

[A]

Don't text me while you're dangling. Throw something on to me means like, sweats a tea. Like, yeah, we not. This ain't we just throwing something on all that.

[C]

I'm getting dressed. Yeah, that's.

[A]

But I'm getting dressed.

[C]

That shorty.

[A]

I'm not disagreeing with y', all, but I understand the other side. I'm not taking that off a cab.

[B]

Like, it's just.

[A]

I'm not taking. I'm not taking it out. I got a slither, and that's it. But said that anyway.

[D]

Yo, you good.

[A]

You got your ass Laser. What's your nickname? He's like, I don't.

[C]

Boxer briefs.

[A]

Boxer briefs with the ass out, though. Boxer briefs with the little slit in the back. Come on, sir. Slit in the back. Yo, that's crazy, son. Cause you gotta take a. A quick or something. Oh, my Lord. I see what type of time y' all on today, and I'm with it. I'm totally with a fool.

[B]

It's your birthday weekend, man.

[A]

It. Yeah, we got my birthday weekend.

[B]

Happy be early.

[A]

And it is Memorial Day weekend.

[B]

That's true, too. No, I get them confused.

[A]

Same thing. Same. Yeah, same thing. Same, same.

[B]

What's the difference?

[C]

I don't Want no problems, bro. Yeah, they.

[A]

They going to tell you Labor Day weekend, holiday weekend, people off on Monday.

[B]

School starting next week, back to school.

[A]

School is starting to clap that up. Word.

[C]

I want them to go back to school so bad that I don't care about dealing with the traffic that's about to come with it. I welcome the traffic. I don't care. Get them back in school.

[B]

I feel like the traffic gets a little easier to time at least. Yeah, at least you know when the.

[C]

Truck But I'll be moving around them times. I don't care. Go.

[A]

Yeah, school is the cheaper nannies. Hey, school, school, school is help.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Hey, come, come. Take this little demon. Don't nobody want to say that, though.

[C]

That's some real shit.

[A]

The cheaperness.

[C]

Especially when you get the before and after kids, too.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Oh, my Lord. I'm not looking forward to the fall winter sickness that you get when your kids go back to school. I feel like I had a good run of not being sick. Yo, this summer was laid back for me, but I'm not mad at it.

[B]

I was running around.

[C]

Yeah, I was outside.

[B]

I'm ready to chill out and just lock in the studio and.

[C]

What the is you talking?

[B]

Dug it out, huh?

[C]

You old.

[A]

What you mean?

[C]

They all about to start being laid back.

[B]

They don't got to be rich.

[A]

I don't think you real lit. You old and I don't think.

[C]

And you're in a relationship.

[A]

My mom been lit all summer. My mom been lit outside everywhere. You could be this cruise, that cruise, this trip, this friend house in North Carolina. This friend. I'm telling all this.

[B]

I've been to every concert in the tri state and abroad this summer. I am tired.

[A]

My dad been lit too. He done been at the timeshare. He's been to this beach, ran over this. The timeshare, wherever it is, he done been there. So. I mean. Yeah. I'm not attaching age to that. I've been laid back. Outside of the family reunion, the trip with the kids, the Turks, like, I.

[B]

Mean, you did a couple things.

[D]

Is there.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Is there levels to the timeshare?

[B]

I think, yeah.

[C]

Yes, it is probably. It is.

[A]

I wouldn't know.

[D]

It is called scam.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I wouldn't know.

[C]

I had one. I had two actually, back in the day.

[A]

On Brand.

[C]

I've been traveling for a long time.

[B]

Fight back.

[A]

Why is that? That's great. That's my brother.

[B]

He's spicy.

[A]

Y' all make everything spicy.

[D]

His response was a spicy response.

[C]

To who?

[A]

You. Yeah.

[D]

Did you question.

[B]

Yeah. Who's been stationary you is what he was saying. That was.

[A]

You don't travel like he traveled. Maybe I'm. Hey, if that's what you were saying, say that. If that's what you were saying to say. I didn't take it that way from my brother.

[C]

Well, he's saying if you traveled as much as he did, you might have had a couple times. You be a little bit more familiar.

[A]

With it is you wasn't traveling when I was traveling. Look, they made me shoot at you. They made me. They made me shoot at you. I wasn't gonna do it. I'm chilling today. They making me. They making me juju. Yeah. If y' all counting from Virginia to Jers to Jersey.

[C]

He trying to. He said it, not me. I'm over here.

[A]

I mean, what we counting is.

[C]

I was going places before the gram.

[D]

You went to, right?

[A]

You talking about fourth passport. These people are. What are we supposed to be talking about right now?

[C]

I don't know. You said the Snitch Olympics.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

All right. All right.

[B]

Distinguished cast.

[A]

We.

[C]

Oh, we don't say ice. Ice is civilian. I've been enjoying the out of watching this.

[D]

Of course you have.

[C]

I'm laughing my ass off because now I want to see anybody backtrack it.

[B]

They're not gonna.

[C]

I know. That's what makes it funny.

[A]

Just give me two seconds.

[C]

Audience rock up.

[A]

Yo, yo, yo. Me. This. This Joe Budden. I'm. I'm. I'm on air. You. You good?

[C]

Hell yeah, man. Just chilling.

[A]

Just chilling. Just chilling. Nah, your voice don't sound like it did last time we called you. No, you want to know something, man?

[C]

I had a goddamn.

[A]

I had a long night last night.

[C]

I was on watching academics live, man. And I'm really off my rock.

[A]

I'm just kind of really waking up, man.

[B]

I really got no business waking up.

[A]

Well, I up early and watch that academics live, so I do understand what you're saying. I just want. Cuz we about to talk about it. We about. We about to cover this. And I know you told me that if next time we in Atlanta business to just give you a call first. So I'm calling you to let you know that I am about to cover this.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But other than that, you're good. The family's good. Everybody's all right. God is good. Hell yeah. You already know, man. All right. We good over here.

[C]

The Slaughter team is always on point, man. We always do what we need to do.

[A]

Listen Listen, I feel you. Sometimes I got to clean my socials up, too. Sometimes I gotta go in there. It's a few. Yeah, I mean, I understand. Oh, wait, you're still. All right, let me. Go ahead. Mies, we love you, man. I'll talk to you. Hit me if I say something wrong, all right? Yeah, yeah, please.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

My man. Peace. All right. Now that that's out of the way, boy, you Atlanta motherfuckers. All right, how do we lay out the foundation for what's going on? They calling Atlanta Ratlana.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Rallo and Thug have been back and forth for. I wish they would take me out the group chat.

[B]

Yeah, a couple days there.

[A]

Yeah, I don't. I. Oh, I'm lit today. Yeah, hold on, man.

[B]

Everybody wants the invite.

[A]

Yep. Yo, yo. Hey, Big Z. Zaire. What's good? What's up? I'm on air. I'm on air, and you know I'm on air, so I wanted to make sure you was either good or some breaking news. You got trade.

[D]

Like what?

[A]

Hey, they put Michael on the block. I gotta make sure my niggas is good. I just called it.

[C]

Checking on my man is.

[A]

Oh. Oh. Everything was cool.

[C]

At the top of the pod. I'm good.

[A]

He's. He talking to you?

[C]

Yeah, I said I'm good. I'm not. I'm not mad at that.

[A]

What? Z, he said he good, but he do sound sad. He said sound sad.

[C]

He said he dragged it out a little bit, too.

[A]

And his face, he's sleepy.

[C]

He ain't get no sleep last night.

[A]

Get no sleep?

[C]

Check.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

Yo, not you, too. Yo, you supposed to be my man. Not you, too.

[A]

Damn, man, that's good.

[C]

Yo, he turn. He ain't want the 40. My. All right. I'm not mad at that.

[A]

Oh, he's hurt. Yeah, I'm not.

[C]

Same face.

[A]

He's hurt. He's hurt.

[B]

I'm sure the TE will be just as good.

[C]

Yeah, they ain't going to lose. They ain't lose nothing.

[D]

Nah.

[A]

Tank for Archie.

[C]

Yo, anyway, bro.

[A]

Z, what's good with you, man? How's things going out there?

[C]

Yeah, how y' all looking, man?

[A]

I'm good. I'm good. Well, I caught with a question and bad news.

[C]

I'm not gonna be able to make.

[D]

The birthday this weekend. I knew.

[A]

I knew that already. But, Boo.

[C]

No, no, listen.

[A]

Syracuse playing Tennessee and Atlanta. I gotta go support my guys.

[B]

Look who he's dissing you for.

[C]

Word.

[A]

Not too crazy, though. Nothing too crazy. Well, listen.

[C]

Syracuse playing Atlanta. What Time?

[A]

You said what?

[C]

What time is the game?

[A]

I'm not even sure.

[C]

I just gotta pull up, you know, I gotta go support the guys, the coaches, you know.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Well, it's just saying. It's just saying that if we send the PJ over there, you should be able to make it. Who's sending the pj? Ish. See, there you go.

[C]

Not ish.

[A]

Not ish.

[C]

But, I mean, we know what that contract look like. That PJ might be on deck for you.

[A]

You don't do it.

[C]

Yeah, I'm saying you talk about my invest fest check. I can't talk about your NFL check.

[A]

Wait, what'd you say about his investors check?

[D]

He said it clear on the table.

[A]

And give financial advice to thousands of.

[C]

People like, I'm not.

[A]

Don't do that.

[C]

You don't need the advice because you already at the top. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Yeah. We good, though. All right, y' all could take this glaze off to Krispy Kreme.

[C]

Hey, Joe, did you draft Danny Don't Dimes?

[A]

Did I what?

[C]

I asked you, did you draft Danny Dimes for your fantasy draft?

[A]

Oh, no, not at all. Bo Nicks.

[D]

I picked them up too.

[A]

Don't worry about it. Bo Nicks. Bo Nicks. But shout out to y', all, go Colts Danny Dimes for the shoe. All right, all right, we'll see you week one, buddy.

[C]

Watch Danny Dimes kick up.

[A]

See, we. We've got work to do over here. We love you. Enjoy the game. We miss you.

[C]

Peace out.

[A]

And I expect to see you next year at my birthday dinner for sure. Definitely will. Definitely will. Happy, happy early birthday to my boy. My man. Love.

[C]

Peace out.

[A]

Later. Okay, Back to the Rad Olympics.

[B]

Indeed.

[A]

So everybody's telling, basically something leaked. Something leaked with Young Thug's interrogation from a million years ago. Let me see if I have any clips that I could play. And it sent the streets in an uproar because it sounded like he was telling. But then street niggas started saying that he wasn't telling.

[C]

Yeah, what I heard, I didn't really hear nothing with him telling. Maybe I didn't hear the whole thing in its entirety, but I ain't hear him tell nothing. Which one did you hear from? New Orleans. I'm from Atlanta. This nigga was in Atlanta and I.

[D]

Was in New Orleans.

[A]

I said, what the.

[C]

That was so weird. This damn shot at this too, but I don't. Honestly, I don't know who the is. They said Roscoe, but I don't wanna. I ain't Gonna. I don't wanna block. I don't wanna, like, lock out y' all case by saying rosco ain't gonna. Rosco ain't do that. You know.

[A]

The audio's not the greatest, but that's just one of the clips that we're floating around. There was another clip. I wish I could find it. All right, here we go.

[C]

Listen.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[C]

Promises. Make promises. Just keep promising. Whatever you in. Anytime you ever think you want to know anything, tell me, I'm taking the.

[A]

Okay. What he's saying here, I'll read it in case you don't see it. Promises. We'll just keep promises. Whatever you. And anytime you ever want me to tell you, I'll tell you, but don't tell the world. What's your number? I can get yada, yada, yada. What's your number?

[C]

Yeah, Speed. I want.

[A]

Okay. So who are the street experts up here? Because that's not me. That's freeze and flip.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

Freeze and Flip are the street experts up here.

[C]

Y' all got it?

[A]

All right, Flip. What do you think of all this? Before I give my opinion as a.

[D]

Non street person, it sounds funny. He did wrong, according to him that he was. He was just lying. But sometimes lying, getting caught on audio, it translates different in the public. It's bad, you know, to say that. But do we. Do we have any information of any. Do we have any information of what he said was used against anyone to put anybody in jail?

[C]

Well, the first one, but not that necessarily that was used. But the person that he spoke about, Peewee, was the one that was sentenced for shooting up Lil Wayne's tour bus. That's the incident that he's referring to. Now he's saying, I said we sold weed to Wayne in order to make it seem like we was cool with him. Like, he was saying I was lying to them so that he didn't get in trouble. Like, we ain't got beef with him. Why would he shoot up his toe? Boss, we were selling weed to Wayne.

[D]

Got it.

[C]

That's Thug's version of why he talked to them and what he was saying as well. I'll let you finish with the.

[D]

So like I said, if there was no information used to put anybody away, you know, he's just. He did a bad thing. But I don't think.

[A]

Which in a series of tweets, Thug calls this an honest mistake. Yeah, that's what he said. He said I made an honest mistake.

[C]

What was the actual mistake?

[A]

What was said in this Interrogation. Old interrogation video.

[B]

Giving the police any information whatsoever.

[C]

Talking to the police.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Saying he's not ratting, but he made an honest mistake. That's what he's saying. And for the casual hip hop listener, this is a big deal because of the RICO trial that he went through recently. That span spanned over a few years. Gunna his artist and the hard stance that thug and seemingly anybody affiliated with.

[C]

Thug took against Gunner.

[A]

Against Gunner and whatever affiliated.

[B]

Anybody that's fans of Thug.

[A]

It was a very divided line drawn. Yeah. It was people telling him, I'm not listening to the Gunner album. He's a rat. He did this. He did. And, and, and it's very trendy in hip hop now and has been in recent years now more so than ever before. This whole who's a rat and who's not thing.

[D]

I think that with the Gunner situation too, why it looks bad on Thug? Because it was Gunna situation. All he did was confirm that it was a gang.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Gunnar didn't.

[A]

But wait.

[D]

But they already had the information to label YSL a game.

[C]

Nothing Thug said was used to put nobody in jail. Literally the same defense people are putting on Thug. I'm. Excuse me. With Gunner, nothing Gunna said was used to put anybody in jail. It's the same. It wasn't. It could have. It could have. We're here.

[A]

Yeah, that's the thing. Thug said the goal post to say.

[C]

No, took it and ran way over there with the goalpost.

[A]

He said nothing that I said was used to put anybody away.

[C]

And that's all that Gunna's lawyer, Anybody that read what an Alford plea was, that was everybody's defense was. Hey, nothing he said was used to put nobody away.

[D]

And. But here's the thing though, and.

[C]

Hold on, let me just finish Real. And Thug said he lied to them, right? That was a lie. Well, if y' all defense is YSL is not a gang, technically done a lot too. And Gunna saying, yeah, it was. It's a lie. We both lying. But why is one ratting at 1A?

[D]

I feel like they. I feel like when it comes to the street niggas, they want the man, which is the police, to do the work, to do all the work. Regardless of what information they have, they don't want you to confirm the information. You're supposed to go down without confirming or denying anything. You stay quiet, you stay silent. That is the street motto.

[A]

Now, I agree.

[D]

If you get semantic y. I do understand. I do agree with you that in my mind they already had the information they had on YSL to consider them a gang. So in my mind, yes, it could be so. But in my mind they already had all the information. So what Gunna did while it was wrong, I feel like he just put himself in a position to get out of jail.

[C]

Joe Button shot somebody, which I'm not. If yeah, Joe Biden shoots somebody and they know Joe shot somebody.

[D]

They know it's on camera. It's on camera.

[C]

They need an eyewitness to confirm that Joe shot somebody. They already got all the pieces. They got.

[D]

What if it's on camera? Ish. Do you change the sentiment?

[C]

Then I'm talk. What I'm saying is if Joe shot somebody and they know Joe shot somebody, I'm not gonna go in there and be like, Joe shot somebody, yo, they already had all the information. I'm not gonna do that.

[A]

That.

[C]

So what if you not doing that?

[D]

What if you respond like this? Whatever you see on camera is on camera stat telling like say if they have footage of this person.

[C]

Do your job, bro.

[D]

But that's the same thing.

[C]

No, it's not. Do your job. I get what you said. Let me just ask you though. I'm with you as a non street person. I am with you because everything I hear is street. Saying you ain't supposed to say a word. Lawyer, lawyer, lawyer. Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. In your instance where Joe shot somebody.

[A]

Yo, can Joe not shoot somebody? Well, I'm just using his example. Use a different name. Derek shot somebody.

[C]

Derek shot somebody. And Derek, buddy, they go talk to whoever and the old ass. 38 can't shoot nobody anyway, so you in the clear. My don't worry about was a.357 or.38.357.

[A]

That rusty.

[C]

I'm gonna pull up the album.

[D]

You doing what? You all right, nigga, you telling.

[C]

But now and. And asking whoever was around, whatever, and they say Derek shot somebody. But they don't use any of that information. Like we already knew you might have said it. All right, so it wasn't you. You get to go home free. But we didn't use your statement in court. We didn't use your statement to testify to prosecute this individual. Is that still considered right? That was the whole gun of argument. That's not true. That is. That was the argument. I disagree. But. So this, this is what I took from the gunner situation. Thug and him are saying we are not organized crime. That's the part of the rico. The RICO is if we can prove that you are an organized criminal enterprise. It is bye bye birdie life. Right? Right. If you have somebody that is riding with this individual for amount of years that says, yes, they are a gang, it is in direct opposite of what this person has been saying. So now we have Parks sitting up here saying that Ish, the Joe Button podcast that he sees two days a week, is doing X, Y, and Z. And Ish has been saying he's not. Got it. That's an eyewitness that is involved in your enterprise and in your organization stating something to the contrary that could be used to send you away for life. But it's not. But it. All right, never mind. No, no, go ahead. Whether he got convicted guilty or not, that don't mean that. I'm not saying the convicted guilty could be like, yo, Derrick shot him. I was there when Derrick shot him. Derrick beats the case. So you can't say, yo, Derrick didn't go to jail because he beat the case. But you sat in a courtroom and said, that person right there, Derek shot the nigga.

[B]

But to advance this, what's the difference between that and what Thug did?

[C]

I can't even really hear what Thug.

[B]

Did, so I don't know.

[C]

I can't. That shit don't sound like nothing to me. I don't know. I'm not defending Thug. What I'm saying is I had a little bit more information pertaining to what Gunnar did that people were mad about what Gunnar did. You can't say I went to court. I pointed out Derrick for shooting somebody. Derrick beat the case, but that don't mean that I didn't attempt or could have potentially sent them away. That's not. And I think that's where me and you are having the disagreement. Or we not on the same level here. Gunnar said what he said in court or he said what he said in his proffer. Yeah, his proffer. And they didn't use it. They never used that in court. That's the part not that he beat the case. It was never brought back up again. Got you. So it's almost like he didn't say it. It's not true. Listen, that's where. That's where the defense comes in. All right, cool.

[A]

And I'm chiming in. I'm gonna advance this after y' all have this.

[C]

Excuse me. Let me give you one thing.

[A]

Go ahead, Go ahead.

[C]

All right. So in court, these lawyers play a bunch of games. So it could be stuff that they'll be like, yo, that right there. You can't use that. Yo, that right There you can't use. That's the games that go on behind closed doors. Like, yo, you got that illegally. How you got. Right, right. You could get a gun, my nigga, that is red handed. Ballistics match all of that shit. But you got the gun and obtained the gun in a manner that wasn't legal. They could kick the smoking gun out of court and you can't be used. And somebody could go home. When you telling your testimony or giving your statement, you don't know that that is gonna be the case. You don't know that. Yo, you told them to go get the gun from over here. The gun is over there. And now they can't use the gun just because he. They didn't use the information that he gave them. He didn't know that they wasn't going to use it. He didn't know that they were not going to be able to use that information that he gave them.

[A]

Let me know when you all are done with this.

[C]

Go ahead. That's what I'm. That's all I'm saying. And again, like that's. That's the. I don't know what the thug. I can't even understand what he's saying.

[A]

Right? None of this is any of my business. That's the thing for me and I don't care.

[C]

Yeah, I don't care.

[B]

That's the thing for me at all.

[C]

Who making good music.

[A]

I don't care at all.

[C]

That's all I care about.

[A]

About who ratted and who didn't rat. Many of the people listening have jobs and go to work, pay taxes. Pay taxes and are law abiding citizens. I'm about to sit here and be on some D1 shit. D1 shout out to you again. I've seen your post. Virtual. Virtual fist bump and the rappers. Maybe because I'm on some old. A lot of them just send the irresponsible message to the people that are listening.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

I'm finished co signing it, championing it. Championing like I'm done. I'm done. Because you make a good song pretending that y' all are good people. And I'm not the fucking. I'm not the. I'm not the decider of good and evil. But I've been in the game long enough to know that these labels and these publicists and these teams and these execs and these people is their job to dress y' all up and make y' all a sellable product. It's their job to make y' all Appeal to as many people as possible. And on the ground level, the labels think that there's a deep connection with the streets to that, and they have metrics that maybe back it up. So I want to tell everybody listening out there to go get a hobby. Get a skill. That's what reading all of this, who's a rat and who didn't rat, compelled me to come in here and say, find something you love to do and find a way to get paid from that.

[C]

Monetize it.

[A]

Hire a team. Find some people that believe in a vision. Figure out what a vision is. Draw something, Amass an audience. If you have a child, put a camera in front of your kid. If they talented. That shit is a cheat code on YouTube. Get a laundromat cook. If you love cooking. I would say especially, yo, get ATM machines and put it in every bodega in the hood. There are too many different ways to earn 10 cent today, so we should be focused on what those skills and trades are rather than who rat it and who didn't rap. The people that's passionate about that, let them go and be passionate about it. This shit is confusing and it's ridiculous.

[B]

At this point, especially coming from people with a huge platform and at least theoretically, millions of dollars. People are generating millions of dollars. They should find hobbies that are not illegal.

[A]

Like, you're lit, you're good, but it's like glorified slaves. It's people that are grossing and earning millions and millions and millions and millions and millions. Some of y', all billions of dollars for other people. And it affords you the luxury to just get out here and act a complete fucking fool. Like, nah, you have to bump your head.

[D]

You have to bump your head in order to. You have to bump your head in order to feel that you want to change. It's one too.

[C]

A lot of people.

[D]

Yeah. My main problem, which is which I do agree with your statement. A lot of people make money off of the morals and principles of how hip hop, where hip hop come from, of not ratting and talking about who's rats and distancing themselves. There's money in that. And I feel like the people that made money, if you made money off of it, cause you. No disrespect to you, you didn't tell in any situation that you. You was involved in your younger days and it was a part of your story. So now that you're mature and you got older, yeah, it may be a disservice, but you still live by those same principles. And morals. Cause you would've told a lot of shit you went through. You would have been told, and you never did. You never told anybody. You didn't rattle anybody, put anybody in jail. You lived by a certain principle and morals. So now I feel like.

[A]

But that's the other part that can get confusing. In hip hop, you can live by a certain. Certain code and have morals and principles and also not be a street like in hip hop. In hip hop, those things are synonymous, and I don't know that they should be okay.

[C]

And I think the other thing is, I'm not.

[A]

I'm sorry for you. I'm not a street at all. My entire career, I've tried to make that very, very, very, very clear. I know street niggas, and I love them, so I have a healthy respect for how they conduct themselves. What's going on today is out of mine and their ballpark.

[C]

It's different.

[A]

Got it.

[C]

That's what I was getting ready to say.

[D]

Okay, I'm with you.

[A]

What's going on today is very different from what went on 20, 20, 25 and 30 years ago. It is.

[C]

It's a different game.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And also, you spoke about, like, the people moving with the morals and stuff. I think with a lot of these folks, once they hit a certain dollar amount, and if they can make money with them folks, they don't care who ratted them in.

[D]

But then say a lot of that.

[C]

They not gonna say that because hip hop is built on selling a facade.

[D]

True.

[C]

That's what hip hop is really about.

[D]

It is. Okay.

[C]

It's built on making it look like this, Even if it ain't that.

[A]

See, but I just. Let me jump in, Let me jump in. Let me jump in right here. That's a great point. The hip hop that they own runs like that. Yes, but that's not hip hop. That's the business of hip hop.

[C]

That's what I'm speaking on. I'm talking about those.

[D]

What is it? What is it? How do you separate it? And when did. There was a. There was a. There was a lot of people that was in the street that were in the street that was still running businesses and that were prominent figures in hip hop.

[C]

So now it wasn't a facade.

[D]

Yeah. And it wasn't.

[C]

A lot of these legitimately are street niggas.

[D]

So when did it separate?

[C]

When?

[D]

At what time did it separate?

[C]

I think once you get to a certain level of awareness, and I think once you get to a certain level of information, you realize that a lot of the shit that we have been being fed from the street level is bullshit. Yep. I think a lot of that shit, once you get to a certain level, you realize that these OG niggas shout to whack 100. The shit he just said was amazing. When he said, dawg, we street niggas and we are being damn near led by niggas that got fifth and sixth grade education, that could fight real good and that could beat niggas asses. But these niggas only got to right here with regards to information. These are the people that are giving you your morals and your values. And I think when these niggas get to 300, 400, $500 million, they realize that that shit was a lie. And so now they kind of separated themselves. But I don't think that them niggas was living in a facade when they was building their brand up. I don't think that that was fake. I don't think that these niggas. I don't. I personally know some of these niggas that got one foot in the street and one foot out.

[A]

For real. For real.

[D]

Let me just say this and go. Eric B, Uncle E. He never talks about his story, but the respect that he gets from people and what you hear about it, he doesn't confirm or deny anything. But he still lives by a certain code. Now, he's not out there promoting that. No. He's on tv, the cop show and everything. But I know by the conversations that I have with him and what I hear. So there is a way to still be in the game and live by this code. So I guess you must keep it internal and not promote it. Because if you promote it, the young people around you may take that and run with it. But that's been the circle of life forever. So how do we change it, dog?

[A]

I'm not concerned with that. Cause I don't care. I don't care. It's not my business. It's not my place. That is totally on y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

I see. It's got everybody in the frenzy.

[C]

It's just got.

[B]

The weird part too, is that most of the people commenting and obsessing about this have no ties to the streets whatsoever.

[C]

It's got everybody in a frenzy because we saw one artist basically ostracized, blackballed through.

[B]

Well, I wouldn't go. I know as far as, say, blackball.

[D]

But a lot of people didn't do.

[C]

Feature black ball in his city.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

He can't get blacklisted. Blacklisted. Blacklisted.

[C]

Blacklisted for whatever he's accused of doing. And then the person that was. The exact person that was like you felt he ratted on whatever. You want to say it now it comes out where you possibly did worse or at least the same thing.

[A]

Well, God has a funny sense of humor. 1.

[C]

So now people are like, oh, so all of y' all that picked a side. Now I want to hear. I want to hear y' all talk Now.

[A]

I want to advance this conversation a little bit just because I don't give a fuck about. But there are valuable lessons to learn and I'd like to focus on a different s word other than snitch Stock stock as it relates to young thug. And it has plummeted. It is plummeted. Y' all could keep having y' all who rat and who didn't rat conversations. The young thug stock. Hey, Atlanta. I'm not even talking about Atlanta Business. He could probably still sell out state farm. Every night of the week outside of Atlanta, he is putting on a master class in how to take a good brand and totally it up. And nobody wants to say it. Did he do a first day out freestyle?

[C]

He didn't do anything.

[B]

He does the features.

[A]

He made a bunch of phone calls to tell people how he felt about Gunner.

[C]

He did chatty, chatty, chatty started chatty.

[A]

Chatty, chatty, chatty, chatty. Why all these people know how the you feel about Gunner. Chatty, chatty, chatty. All you street chatty, chatty chatty. The new street well, you emotions. No, no music that did nothing.

[C]

Nothing. Yeah, you're right. No attempt, but nothing.

[A]

No attempt at that. The branding and marketing genius that he's shown himself to be, it ain't even been flashes of that. Every time you see him, there's an embarrassing look that comes with it. I. E. The awards. I ain't gonna go on because I love too many in Atlanta. But he looks a fucking mess. And because we love hip hop, we just supposed to stay quiet about it. I don't give a fuck who's ratting and who ain't. Ain't my business. But when you talk about taking a pristine business that was worth what it was and just kaputin it, he's putting on a clinic.

[D]

You're referring him of not. You're referring to him not embracing gunna. And that's what you're referring to.

[C]

Well, that's.

[A]

That's only a small part of it.

[C]

He could have did without.

[A]

That's. That's some God universe.

[D]

Okay, so Right.

[A]

You got to decide if the person that you turn your op has a bright future and is going to manifest that better without you. Like, that's some universe. I'm not just putting that. He could have put his head down.

[B]

Got to work.

[C]

Gotta work.

[A]

Come out. Not been chatty Patty. Got to work. Even if he was hoarding. Hoarding it until his label situation came out. Because that's the other S word. I want to bring out support. See, I've seen this movie before. I've seen this movie before of an artist that has Kevin lounge and an artist that don't.

[C]

Use the starting role.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

I'm gonna see what you fell out.

[A]

Of favor with my entire label. I was out of there. That's. That's a whole different thing. Kevin Lauz. Shout out to Kevin Laos. Praying for you always. Kevin Louds had 300. 300 had them. Kevin Laos took the stand. Whatever hits you heard, whatever marketing, however he appealed, the GQs, the. All of this white press, all of that crossover appeal shit, none of that happens by yourself. That's not just you in Atlanta in a basement making slaps unless you soldier boy. And even that has to be connected to a label somehow. So then there was the 300. Everybody in 300. No longer in this building. We sold this. There was that whole thing. And now Kevin Laos is going through whatever he's going through on his own. I'm sure he's got his plate full of. And he ain't really there from looking. And it looks like somebody of Kevin Lau's stature is not there anymore. It looks like an artist that's left to his own figuring it out.

[C]

Figure it out.

[A]

Yeah, that's what it looks like. And it looks a mess.

[C]

It looks a mess like he started like, you beat this case or the plea, but you avoided prison. You come home.

[A]

You, you, you.

[C]

You kept. You stood tall. You didn't say nothing. All of hip hop, especially Atlanta hip hop, was there to embrace you.

[A]

The. The.

[C]

It was like a perfect storm for you to drop whatever. You started teasing a project. I remember when him and Shorty was at the Heat game wearing jerseys with the album. They sent out spiders to influencers and media folk promoting the new album. Like, even now, if you go look in his comments, people like, yo, dawg, we don't care. Drop the album. Drop the album. Drop the album. It's almost like, I think, like he feels a lot of pressure to drop. I can't drop this yet. But what works against him is the fact that What I said a couple pods ago, gunna came out and didn't miss a beat.

[A]

True.

[C]

So you dissing this person subtly. You're doing a little tweet thing like you said. You're calling everybody, you're doing it that way. And he's making joints.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And you're missing.

[A]

Yeah, you should stop that. Just from how it looks on you and how it seems to be affecting you. You not affecting your enemy. Like, I don't understand some of this shit.

[B]

Me either.

[A]

The person that you shooting at just started a running club.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You have 5,000, it's going to wanna run. Wunna wanna run?

[C]

Got 5,000 people donating money to the channel.

[A]

Like somebody with since would be in his corner saying, these optics are bad.

[C]

It looks bad. Yeah, it looks bad.

[A]

Stay low and keep firing. Fire differently. You gotta learn the corporate way to get your shot. Get your shit off where nobody knows that that's what you're doing or how you feel about it. He's a mess. He's a mess.

[B]

This whole shit is a mess.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

That's one of the slaps that.

[C]

That's it. That's it. I gotta shout. Act out. Act says something that I've. I've been saying for at least 15, probably longer years.

[B]

What's up?

[C]

It all depends on how we like if we like the person or not. That's really it. The goal, the goal post.

[A]

All these rules.

[C]

This new hip hop. I'm not talking about the hip hop that y' all were referring to. This new hip hop, all they care about is who's liked, who's not. I've been telling y', all, when they love you, you can do no wrong. And when they hate you, you can do no right. That's the rule of the new hip hop.

[D]

I don't agree with that.

[C]

It plays out in front of us every time.

[D]

There's clear cut proof that thug did what he did over for him too.

[C]

Gonna make excuses.

[D]

Yeah, because. Because there is clear cut.

[C]

He sat here and was talking.

[B]

Yeah, that's clear cut.

[D]

Hey, yo, listen. No.

[C]

According to them, the way that.

[D]

I don't want to bring the P guy into this, but love that. And look what happened to him when it was proof of the. That he did what I'm saying could love you and hate you. Oh, you feel what I'm saying? Niggas could love you one minute, you could be at the top, niggas. Some people didn't talk about it when his trial was going on, but niggas Distance themselves from that nigga. They fuck with that nigga. Anybody. If there's clear cut evidence of you ratting, of you doing heinous crimes, I. E. Beating somebody up on video, if you doing different things, niggas ain't fucking with you. Clear cut evidence.

[A]

So I don't want to make it.

[D]

Seem like niggas is picking the chooses. Thug ain't above reproach. He's not at all.

[C]

Well, a lot of people he is because they like him.

[D]

Flip over there somewhere else they make.

[C]

Yeah, I know. As I said, you still apply. You still move with that. See, I disagree. Majority of these niggas don't. I agree with Flip and I.

[D]

Cause I heard Whack talking about what Thug did was bad, but then saying, but you my nigga, though. But he still like you could be. That's his friend. But he still said what he did was bad.

[C]

But then you have niggas that say, hey, I ain't talking. I'm not associating with no rats, man.

[A]

Somebody rapped it. So I don't give a fuck.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't care. I don't.

[C]

We going to.

[B]

Where are you Are the.

[C]

That's where they at.

[A]

What are we talking about right now?

[C]

That's what they are.

[B]

It's dumb.

[A]

Yo. Go a skill. Yeah, trade school. Trade school. Culinary arts. Go to the supermarket and buy some. Pam. Ain't that what it's called? Grease. Go Grease a walk.

[D]

I thought of Spam.

[C]

You've been with that air fryer. Put that Pam in that.

[A]

And I used to with that. Buy that and spray it on their titties.

[D]

Huh, Pam.

[B]

Pam of the titties, huh?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, what that? Wait, what that do?

[B]

Make them glisten.

[C]

Yeah, but you know they got like real hygienic burchips.

[A]

They got cooked.

[C]

Oily ass chicken. Cocoa butter's a thing on the stage.

[B]

Smell like vegetable oil away from.

[A]

I don't know if cocoa butter make them shine like pan.

[D]

It might not oil make it.

[A]

I thought it was rather peculiar when I heard it too.

[C]

Yo, who's the first that thought Pam. Get your right girl. She ain't had no more.

[A]

Her regular.

[C]

That's what it was.

[A]

She's like, you know what?

[C]

All right, that's crazy.

[A]

I'm talking about Dar. Shout out to Dar. Dar might have been the first girl I met on my space and our. We did the first date at the fucking. The fuck club. The sex club. And Dar, I think is in the inside of the Slaughterhouse album. And that's where she said, I need my Pam. And she got a Pam. She's spraying the motherfucking bad boys up. And I think in the insert, she's behind the poker table.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

All right. With the Pam on.

[A]

I think y' all sleep on some things that women do in their beauty routines.

[C]

I would not.

[A]

Some of it is outside. Some of it is outside of the box. Box.

[C]

No, I believe you. I'm gonna. I mean, it could look good.

[A]

How y' all think they get the glitters and stuff on them?

[B]

Pay them.

[A]

No, no, not pay them.

[C]

They actually sell that?

[D]

Yeah, the shimmer.

[C]

They sell it.

[A]

Yeah. Where do y' all draw the line on.

[C]

Pam, stay out the kitchen. I want to hear your questions, though.

[A]

That was my question. Where do y' all draw the line on. On where she's taking the beauty game? Like, you cool with glitters? You're cool with stars seatown. I'm sorry. I don't mean to. On. Lord knows I know way too many street. I have a healthy, healthy, healthy respect for, say, what goes into that and the people that are good at it.

[B]

Once upon a time, it was people could get in the game and kind of get away from it, or at least visually get away from it.

[C]

I don't think it became profitable today. I don't think a lot of y' all today are good at it. I don't think a lot of y'.

[A]

All. Yeah, I think that's a part of my.

[C]

That's a part of what I'm. That's a part of what I'm saying.

[A]

I think. I think. Yeah. I don't think a lot of y' all today are great at it. I think y' all make a pro. Y' all are a prosecutor's dream.

[B]

Yeah, social media, they used to be putting shit right on the. Right on the Internet.

[C]

It's social media. It's them, fam. I saw a video.

[A]

It's them, dog. Social media is a tool. What you do with it is what you do with the drug.

[C]

I saw two Italian mob arguing. What you mean you ain't putting away. I got 19. I'm involved in 19 murders.

[B]

Yeah, it ain't.

[C]

It's the social media because. Because street.

[A]

I don't like that example because them same cousin is the judge. That same nigga's cousin is the chief of the police force. Hey, if y'. All. If y'. All. If you. If y' all are not suffering the same consequences of these crimes, then what you say in Staten island is wi fi In Staten Island.

[C]

Yeah, but you. It's just the point of making shit hot. Like, all the street niggas I know, the real ones don't want no attention, don't bring no attention over here. Like, are we trying to be low? I disagree. Niggas always wanted attention. I'm talking about street wanted attention, social media attention. It was just local. You got bitches, you got respect. You got all of these things from being a man in your neighborhood or in your surrounding areas. Niggas that was in the street wanted they name to pop. If you was a New Jersey nigga and your name was popping in Harlem, or your name was popping in Brooklyn, or your name was popping in dc, you was happy.

[B]

Yeah, but name is different from, like, all of the information about you.

[C]

Because there was an infamy before, but now social media has taken it to where I could be worldwide as opposed to being local. It's the same endorphins, it's the same high that you get from hearing your name came outside.

[D]

Gotcha.

[B]

Back in the day, the street dudes I used to hang out with would, like, run and hide if a camera came out.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Like the little Kodak cardboard. Any. Any type of camera. Like, it was like, no, not me. I'm. Y' all take the picture.

[C]

And now you got certified. Some of them same dudes that might have ran and hide, smiling now.

[A]

But wait, let me add that. Not only did they run away from a camera or the little disposable Kodak we used to buy, they also wanted to go home to their family. They did. Yeah. When they came up with whatever plan they was coming up with to go do some that I would never do, a lot of it entailed caution. Hey, circle that for a month. Like, prepare. Hey, all variables could happen. They wanted to go home. They thought it wasn't just outside in the daytime next to the precinct renting a car with, yo, you up and I gotta come cover this as a 45 year old. No, y' all are not holding me hostage with this.

[C]

Y' all won't get off the car rental.

[A]

Y' all are not.

[C]

Yo, that was crazy, dog. Some of this, some of that is crazy.

[A]

Yo, you break that shit.

[C]

You reading me like.

[A]

Like, come on, my nigga, you lied. You lying. We gonna go kill a. Then go right a song about it. Tell you where we hit the weapon at. We going to like, what are we talking about? Then I'mma give you the list of all the niggas that I'm thinking about killing. I'M going tell you they address. They all live in a three mile radius of me. I'mma go do all this shit with myself. My three cell phones in my pocket, all of them just turned on being trapped. And anybody don't watch that.

[B]

All for a bunch of nerdy 14 year old white kids with car cartoon avatars to argue about on the Internet.

[A]

And act. Yo, I was up at 5 this morning listening to street prove. They point to act. That's my point. That is my point. With all respect to act. You know I love you. Of course you my man. This has nothing to do with you.

[C]

Right, right.

[A]

But where I'm from, that just wouldn't happen.

[C]

It's not supposed to.

[A]

That just wouldn't happen. Y' all need a reality check. Y' all need to hold a mirror up, do some self reflection, work out the A check.

[C]

They want a reality show now do it.

[A]

Go get some facial cream. You look dry, ashy and broke. Talk about who told on who. I'm not covering it. I'm sorry if you think I don't have better to do than this. I say that after we cover it.

[C]

I wanted to get this because I.

[A]

Think that people building a business could look at this too. You know I always say that law abiding citizens, you could pull a lot from watching street niggers and watching women in the nightlife. I say that all the time, so it is interesting. If you looking to learn, I'm not looking to help decipher who did what crime, who put who away, who's realer. I don't know none of that. Free my niggas. That's locked up. That's what I know. With that said, I know a lot of you are wondering whose prize picks.

[C]

Whose prize picks you out.

[A]

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[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[A]

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[D]

Let's get to it. Come on, let's get to it.

[A]

Yo, I'm Simba.

[D]

I'm antsy, bro. Let's get to it.

[A]

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[D]

Yes. It started with.

[C]

Started with pillow talking.

[A]

Flip can't believe that I pillow talk. Flip is so taken aback by the fact that I shared with the people here that I be pillow talking. How did that come up? Because I didn't just volunteer that.

[C]

What do you pillow talk about?

[D]

We were talking about something.

[B]

No, and to be clear, you pillow talk with your girl?

[A]

We would talk because there's a difference.

[B]

Between pillow talking with your girl versus pillow talking with just random. Random hoes.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, no. I'm a faithful black man. Ain't no random hoes. I ain't no randoms. Ain't no random hoes. I'm talking to my girl about.

[B]

She all.

[D]

We was talking outside about something and then you said that. I said I don't pillow talk.

[C]

I don't go home.

[D]

I don't discuss anything about anybody up here. I don't discuss my niggas with my wife. I don't do anything unless something comes on her table, I. E. The podcast, and she asks me a question, what she heard on here. I don't discuss nobody up here. I don't discuss my business. I don't discuss anything. All that shit is outside.

[A]

I don't believe what I said.

[D]

You said I do the total opposite. You said I'm a pillow talker. And I said, that's strange to me. I don't agree with you.

[A]

And he started calling me names.

[D]

I did.

[A]

Weirdo ass nigga.

[D]

He started talking to me like, no, I did.

[A]

I pillow talk with my girl.

[B]

I do too.

[A]

And if I can mine right there.

[C]

She'Ll tell you I pillow talk if.

[A]

We married, and I can't pillow talk with her. I'm getting divorced. I'm getting divorced. Divorce.

[D]

Now you throwing shots at my family. I'm not letting nothing slide with you niggas up here today. So let's go to it. Sometimes when you go in a home, there's a lot going on that you want to discuss besides work. In our culture, they said, leave your problems at the door. When I'm going in the house, all that shit is behind me. I'm talking about life. I'm talking about my children. I'm talking about, what do you want to do? I'm trying to maintain. And then on top of that, I'm trying to get a lot of. I'm trying to get a lot of my flip the network shit off. Well, first of all, I got to discuss that.

[A]

First of all, I'm not certain that we share the same culture. One, two, stand on your dick in my.

[D]

Stand on it.

[A]

Whoa. All right. And in my. And. And two, in my different.

[B]

S. Word.

[A]

In my culture, they didn't tell me to leave my problems at the door. They told me the exact opposite. Go in there and. And tell. Go in.

[D]

Leave your prop.

[A]

Well, we out here in the world facing all this, being men, suppressing, showing up as our best sales places. When we walk in the door, we supposed to be able to let our guard down some. Talk about some that we wouldn't talk about with nobody in the universe. Decompress. Share some. That pissed you off. Sometimes that might involve y'. All, Sometimes it might not.

[D]

Nah, but I'm not kicking my.

[B]

This is where I condition.

[D]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't want my. I don't want my wife to have a skewed view of anybody I with.

[A]

A half a time, she could think whatever she wants about.

[D]

Watch your mouth. Talk about my wife. You seen it half a time.

[A]

I love your wife.

[D]

Yeah, she was very nice. Watch him.

[A]

Your wife is an absolute sweetheart. But I'm saying, in the event that you. If I was on bullshit, and you went and said to her, yo, Joe, I think is on bullshit. Actually, you did that before, and she told you, check your contract. She told you, call your lawyer. You Went home. Yo, Joe is at work. Wow.

[D]

That's not what happened. You had suspended me. And she's like, why are you home? It's one of them days. Like, she didn't leave, so she came back. Why are you here then? I had to tell her.

[A]

You confided in your partner.

[D]

Then I told her, but she was offended that I didn't tell her in the first place. That was the whole problem. Like, why want you to come and tell me, but I don't want you to look at. I don't want to have to explain because she heard the stories already. I got kicked out of a lot of jobs already, so she knows.

[A]

But getting kicked out of this job is different from you getting escorted out of Sears or wherever you was at.

[D]

Nigga, I never worked at Sears.

[A]

I worked at Kid.

[D]

Watch your mouth.

[A]

Remember, that's on Brand. Losing this job.

[D]

You want that Radio Shack.

[A]

Losing this job.

[D]

A whiz.

[A]

I'm about to say, don't put Radio Shack on my jacket.

[D]

Radio Shack is better than Wiz.

[B]

Look how nerdy.

[D]

Wiz is trash.

[A]

Radio Shack is not never better than nigga. Where it's not even the same. Now, now apologize.

[D]

I gotta confirm.

[A]

I used to rob that worked at radio show. You crazy, boy. Hey, take off the little headphone. Take off your little head. I don't remember what I was.

[D]

I don't want my wife to have a SC View. You said that. Yo, when you got suspended, your wife said, check the law. Check your contract. That did happen. I shared that with you. I was like my wife.

[A]

I don't believe that. None of y' all wives think that I'm the. The best person.

[D]

Even if that was a piece like.

[A]

I mean, like, yo, I'm not traveling the world thinking that that's happening.

[D]

If she does that, I want. Yeah, exactly. I wanted to see that herself, not. But I would never confirm that or deny that. I respect my. I want you to come to my home and feel welcome. My wife always say, yo, when Joe come over here, invite Joe. Like, ask him what drinks you want. That's the type of person she.

[A]

She.

[D]

What drink he want. That's the type of person she is. So I wouldn't want to come over here and tell her I'm going through this with Joe so she can have that view because she's going to protect me. That's not the type of time I'm on. And a lot of people do that. And you can tell when somebody talks about somebody with their wife.

[C]

Definitely can.

[D]

You can tell Shout out to all their parents. Like, that's when pops came and checked me. That's why I with your father. Yo, I ain't like what you said, yo. Hey, I ain't with that. Press me. Your girl press me too. Yo, I heard this. Not cause of what you said.

[A]

That was.

[D]

I heard. That's what I'm saying. I heard this.

[A]

This.

[D]

This is her own vision. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Her own version so I wouldn't want to add on to that. I'm just saying me.

[B]

Just because you pillow talk with your girl doesn't mean you're necessarily kicking your friend's backs in.

[D]

Or pillow talk comes with kicking back.

[A]

No, not always. I disagree with that.

[D]

They don't. Okay. How would you say a story if. Hey, yo, Joe.

[C]

Pillow talking about something positive.

[A]

It don't have to be a bad story.

[C]

So I ain't talking about your day.

[D]

I equate pillow talking with negativity. Then. So then that's what wrong.

[C]

That's pillow talking about whatever happened happen.

[A]

Whether you're positive, not just negative. Pillow talking is.

[D]

But you talk about the negative stuff too.

[A]

Yes, because you said it. I talk about it all with my.

[B]

That's the whole point of having a.

[A]

Saying, you dead ass. All of it.

[C]

Everything. All of it.

[A]

Hey, Exactly. Hey, you watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. Talking about my baby, my soulmate. All of it. Everything. Stop looking at me like network employees.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that's how it's.

[A]

Hey, your little construction employees. Who else? All of it. All of it. Everything. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Hey, nail me to the cross.

[B]

Well, the other thing, too. Your girl is gonna pillow talk about you anyway.

[C]

Stop playing with them.

[A]

I'm not playing.

[C]

You're saying it wrong. That's number one.

[A]

You are playing. I'm not playing.

[C]

You don't subscribe to that.

[A]

No, that's not. But it's not true, though. My barber, when he come in the morning and I say some, he be so frustrated that just said stop for a lot.

[C]

I said, yeah.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. What does that mean? Yo may forgive you or some I'm like, oh, you in here dissing the out of me anyway, Flip, your girl's.

[B]

Going to bring the pillow talk to you anyway.

[A]

I pillow talk.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Hey, and my girl pillow talk. So I don't want that to stop.

[D]

Because it's like pillow talking because the.

[A]

Did she tell. Come tell me about her friends. Oh, my God. Same. Hey, wait.

[C]

I be feeling like I'm in a group chat.

[A]

Yo, it's Way worse than anything I could conjure up to tell her about my.

[B]

No, you're in the group chat and you have the Cliff notes from the side chats.

[C]

Girl, my.

[A]

Nah, nah, that ain't just a.

[B]

No.

[C]

You're not such a girl.

[A]

No, I'm telling not y' all think that what we be going through is nuts.

[B]

No, I promise you this is different.

[A]

When she get to talking about her crew, girl, she know I'mma get in trouble.

[C]

You was just having this.

[A]

Yo, her crew is on the way here.

[C]

I'm like you.

[A]

Have you ever analyzed your girl's crew? You be locked in. They are messing.

[C]

Salute.

[B]

Love you guys.

[A]

Yo, I ain't gonna lie. My girl crew. I almost stopped off from hanging out.

[C]

With a few of y' all I have in the past.

[A]

Hey, hey. I'm going to such and such house. No, you're not. Such and such is a mess, child.

[C]

You don't need no parts. Yeah, that's why I talked to my.

[A]

Yeah, I say. I say that.

[C]

That's a. That's a sliver. Let me throw something.

[D]

Slice more.

[A]

You be challenged. I have a tally of slithers.

[C]

A lot of them.

[A]

A tal is five.

[B]

No, you get double half a pie now.

[A]

Yeah, you. You a dozen whole cheesecake. I'm sorry. Listen, if you do it say child and it's wild.

[B]

I don't even know how to say that.

[A]

Listen, I'm trying. I'm trying to. I'm trying. Y' all have heard me say that before. Y. I just crazy. Yeah. Street. Street starting to ask me where she at. I love pillow talking, too. It's not just that I do it like I, I. I really enjoy it.

[C]

Yeah, we know.

[A]

I have a really good time. I rush to do it.

[C]

We know.

[D]

That is strange.

[A]

I don't understand people. Straight for change.

[B]

Completely normal.

[A]

I guess this is back to that weird moral like you is not snitching. I ain't. I ain't snitching. And I ain't pillow talking. Have it your way. You missing out on some.

[D]

You don't think something you may say may skew your. Your girl's vision of. Of the people you're talking to?

[B]

No, I don't talk crazy about my friends.

[D]

Yeah, that's not.

[C]

You can pillow talk without that.

[D]

N. Y just now, y' all trying to have pillow talk etiquette because there's a lot of I do up there.

[C]

Stop at the good. I said. No, no. Just stop at the good. Say some without making a look like a dirt bag or something, though.

[B]

Facts.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

What are y' all talking about? What are you talking about? I didn't say you can't. I'm saying that when you are pillow talking with your chick and you are emotional, negative, or positive, if you feel comfortable telling your girl all of the things that's going on, you're gonna tell your girl the good and the bad. You're not gonna stop at the bad and not tell her that.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

Said the pillow talk had to be emotional.

[A]

It'll be. They getting a good cry, you know. Pillow talk?

[C]

Yeah. I didn't say. I didn't. I'm saying that is fronting, saying that they won't say the negative. We didn't say.

[A]

Bad about every one of y'. All.

[C]

There's a way to say.

[D]

Wait.

[A]

I'm saying the opposite of what you think I'm saying.

[C]

No, I said.

[B]

No, I'm saying there's a difference between bad and not kicking someone's back.

[A]

Okay, don't speak for me. I'm not speaking for you. Don't speak it for me.

[B]

No.

[A]

You kick back in what combat boots.

[C]

Do.

[A]

I got some steel toes in the closet. I am kicking.

[D]

Dumbass.

[A]

Every person other than that I know. If the moment calls for that, I'm kicking you back in. We know who I am in the relationship. I love y', all, nigga. So I'm not painting a picture to my girl. And if she act like that, I'mma fix her up. I'mma fix her up if she even act like that. Well, I hear a word of it. I don't play about y', all, but I talk about y'. All.

[D]

I don't. I don't.

[A]

I. Go eat. Oh, my God.

[D]

You talking about business to people.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Stop on.

[A]

Yes, you.

[D]

Yo, you know this nigga for 20 joints.

[A]

Wait, hold on for a minute. Is anyone here of the impression that I've been running around holding it down? No, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Not at all. No.

[A]

No, no. I know. Oh, what? Well, that's. Cause she been in my phone. She been in my phone. I don't play about Corey, but she been in my phone. All right. I don't know why he think it's cool about what? Okay, let's try it. Let's try it. He not going to stop. Let's try. Yeah, let's try it a different way. I'm not going to change. Okay, we'll talk later. Y' all could talk bad about me. Some of y' all already don't talk bad about me. But no. Okay, listen. I feel like a large part of however y' all significant other views me plays a part in the sanctity of Yalls relationship. Like, you need that one friend. You need. Hey, I'm old. Hey, you need that friend. You could just. Just put some respect.

[D]

And.

[C]

I don't care.

[A]

Blame me.

[C]

I don't care.

[A]

Blame me.

[C]

I don't care how. Girl, look at me. I don't give a. Blame me. Man, this happy out there. Some nigga Ish had a flat in the snow here.

[A]

Just tell me. I don't care. I could tell when REM had enough of us recording in this. It was enough of that.

[C]

Hey, it was a couple times. It was a couple times. We was there late, too.

[A]

Y' all girls be right. That's why you got a pillow talk with your girl, too, and then we can move on. Because y' all girls is right.

[B]

They got some common sense.

[A]

We don't. They see shit we don't see. My girl be right. Was it just me? It was Ice Voice extra raspy this episode. Girl, child, child, girl, let me tell this will not get the throat surgery. That's funny. Y.

[D]

Anyway, don't pillow talk y'.

[A]

All. I hear you. Get you somebody you can pillow talk with. Oh, wait till after my birthday. Oh, what? That is going to be an epic pillow talk.

[C]

That's going to start at your party.

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

I already started. Girl, you know Ish ain't got a blazer yet. Girl, wait for the. The pillows.

[C]

The pillows.

[A]

Stupid. I'm telling my girl. She the G. Got nothing to do. You win. You know they say found shoes yet? It's already Thursday. All right, What y'? All. Where y' all want to go? Where y' all want to go? We can go wherever y' all want to go. Y' all want me to pull up my list? It's. Oh, y'. All. Y' all ready to apologize to me? About what?

[C]

What?

[A]

Doris Burke's demotion.

[B]

Yeah, they got her out of here.

[A]

Is anybody here ready to apologize to me?

[C]

What happened?

[A]

They.

[B]

I think it just demoted her off of the.

[A]

She's been demoted from the finals coverage team. Team insert Tim Legler.

[C]

Yeah, you did say she was getting out of Dogs.

[A]

This is not bad news. She signed. She signed an extension. A longer term contract with a company. They just removed her from finals, which I said to y'. All. Yeah, you did that finals coverage. I've heard in my entire life.

[D]

What did she say again?

[A]

She said, oh, let me find it.

[C]

She had A bunch of.

[A]

Let me find it for you. I know I got it saved somewhere. You're an idiot. She bugged out. I couldn't see how y' all didn't understand my point. That day.

[D]

It was an older lady with y'. All.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember that.

[C]

I love Dorisburg.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

But Doris Burke know more about basketball than most of these men.

[A]

For real? For real. Yeah.

[C]

Mad knowledgeable. Hell yeah.

[A]

And Doris Burke is great. I just think she had an off finals.

[C]

She could have been going like.

[A]

She's great. I'm a huge fan. She's one of the best. Guess something was different during the finals.

[C]

Maybe the bright lights.

[A]

No, no, she's done it before. Yeah, she just had a bad run.

[C]

She is the pinnacle. Like, she.

[A]

I don't know much about history, but I know the French and German don't like one another. And Rudy says, bonjour. That's fire.

[C]

That's.

[D]

Can't.

[A]

Stephen A. Smith said that's what y' all said.

[C]

Didn't think that was bad.

[D]

You can't say that in the comments now. You can't say that now.

[B]

Why say that?

[C]

That's funny.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Can't say what.

[D]

Can't say that about the German.

[B]

The French and Germans don't like each other.

[A]

They went to two wars against each other basketball game. And you can't game. We don't care about the French and the German not liking each.

[C]

We just watching a ball game is playing the German. German. Dude. That's dope. We don't want to talk about that.

[A]

International. I need. I need for my finals team to know that that can't be done on. We trying to expand this worldwide. We selling streaming rights everywhere.

[B]

I don't think that's what did it.

[C]

Me either.

[A]

Y' all are dumb as a. I don't think it. The French is German.

[B]

You don't even know geography.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

And these don't know history.

[A]

Word.

[C]

Yo, she disrespectful. What happened with the French and the German.

[A]

Okay. Just. All right, well, I'm not in. Talk about that. I'm not in the finals coverage business. I'm not in the advertising. A little bit. I am an advertising.

[B]

That is. That's. That's probably where I'm an advertising. That's probably where something didn't rub right as.

[A]

Oh, well, as someone in the advertising business. When I was home and heard that, my ears went up. So.

[C]

Yeah, you came in and said it.

[B]

You did.

[A]

That sounded like a mess. Shout out To Doorsburg. But they did the right thing. Get. I'm joking. Take that out. Take that out. Hey, I'm not gonna do that Doorsburg. I'm not doing that to George Burke because I like Doris Burke. Anyway, what else? What else? What else is anybody. Did anybody keep up with the Cardi B lawsuit?

[B]

So I just.

[A]

I.

[B]

A little bit. I've just been watching the videos because that is hilarious.

[C]

That is top tier comedy.

[B]

My.

[C]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[A]

It's top tier comedy. That.

[B]

That whoever that lawyer is, is get his ass whooped. Like.

[C]

Whose lawyer?

[B]

Whoever. Yeah, whoever.

[C]

Other girl's lawyer.

[B]

Cuz she's up there asking.

[C]

He's up there asking the Planet asking.

[B]

About her wigs, ask about her nails. A whole bunch of. So basically what happened was she went to some. A doctor and. Yeah, whatever doctor it was. She was pregnant and she went to the doctor and the security guard started filming her and taping her. And Cardi said, stop filming and taping me. You're a security person. Why are you doing this? And then it got louder and escalated and now the woman is suing her for assault or something. She scratched her with her fingernail. A bunch of bullshit.

[A]

You got to see the scratch too though. I'm like, I know we're not supposed to say it.

[B]

No, we can say it.

[D]

It's a little scratch.

[B]

It's.

[A]

The scratch looked like ash, yo. Yeah, it looked like when you know the metal wire hangers, if you just graze up on one like the scratch look like she just drew this bullshit scratch there herself. It looks bad.

[C]

It's a money grab. Money grab. Oh, it's absolutely everybody out here for the money grab now. They asked. Cardi said, what did you call her fat? Cardi said, I don't think I called her fat. I know I called her a bitch a bunch of times.

[B]

That shit.

[A]

Yo.

[C]

That is hilarious, B. Did he keep asking Cardi the same questions?

[A]

Because you know that she called her a fat. But yeah, she did everything that they saying she did. Probably, but you can't prove it. My lawyers are greatest. I'm a star. I'm funnier up here. And you want some money grab.

[B]

And the real problem is the woman was working security. She shouldn't have been involved.

[C]

You should have never pulled your phone out when I'm coming in this hospital, making me feel uncomfortable. Uncomfortable, right.

[A]

The.

[C]

Are you talking.

[D]

You can't do that, Joe. You can't follow me with a camera.

[C]

You better not be saying that.

[D]

Joe is crazy. Tell me, please make it make sense.

[A]

You got to defend this one. What I'm saying is I can't, cuz I'm on y' all side.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But what I'm saying is everybody's correct from their point of view. Cardi is that level of superstar where somebody that has a job will risk that job. Yeah, for sure. For that.

[D]

Doesn't make it right though. But I understand.

[A]

I'm not saying it's right.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

I'm not saying it's right. Right. I. I be the dude that be wanting to knock mad out.

[D]

I was about to say, see that?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That came over there like, hey, Joe Biden. Joe Biden.

[A]

But until they update the laws. Right. Cuz the laws are in that person's.

[C]

Favor in New Jersey.

[A]

In New Jersey. I can't speak for nowhere else in New Jersey. If you're taping Joe Button, there's nothing I could do.

[C]

Nothing you could do?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they should make a change to that law.

[D]

They should.

[A]

I think so too.

[D]

Privacy invasions and stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah, I think so too too.

[D]

But I agree with Cardi. Like, why are you following behind me, taping me while I'm trying to go to a doctor?

[A]

Right? That's crazy.

[B]

Had it been anywhere else, I would, I would be on the security person side. If she was working retail or something, I'm on her side. But a doctor's office, there should be a level of discretion.

[C]

Bro, don't pull your phone out and follow.

[A]

Cardi is too charming and too funny to, to. To take.

[C]

Amazing.

[A]

So when she takes stand, she's going to win over the whole courthouse is laughing. Yeah, having a blast. She's amazing, that Cardi.

[C]

She's personable. You could tell it's a lot of honesty in her testimony.

[B]

She said, is she bigger than you? She's like, yeah.

[C]

Oh, this stupid ass lawyer gonna say, well, how do you know she's bigger than me? She's like, you see her? Are you fucking dummy? Like, he just asking a bunch of stupid ass questions, yo.

[A]

Yeah, he up here asking her about her wigs. Yeah, what color wig did you have on yesterday? What color is this wig today?

[C]

Was her. Did she have bad finger? Like just dumb. How did you judge your fingernails?

[A]

Like stupid.

[C]

It's like, yo, my. Shut up, fam. You get take his degree away. This bar is dumbass.

[B]

Like, he's bad, yo.

[C]

He's horrible, B. I know they up there tight. Oh, they ain't got no money to get no.

[A]

Yeah. What you doing? You right. I can't go Get Cardi in there killing them looks.

[B]

Yeah, she looks great.

[A]

She's killing them.

[D]

Looks great.

[C]

It's a fashion show.

[A]

She looks great, sound great. I got an album coming. This is all free press.

[C]

She's likable.

[B]

Super.

[C]

Yo. Like, she's just personable. My. She's likable. She just seems so authentic and relatable. That's what got her from day.

[A]

Dr. Bryant.

[C]

Oh, I don't know enough of Dr. Bryant.

[A]

I love when I can shoot at you. I love. Yo.

[C]

Anytime I can shoot at you, I'm in heaven.

[A]

We.

[C]

We know. It's all right. Anyway, you're right.

[A]

She is.

[C]

But that's always been her. And sent me the clip. My head was going like this.

[A]

I'm telling you.

[D]

That's funny.

[A]

Why you was agreeing so much, nodding like that. You're not cooler than that. I guess that's my thing. You could agree. But the. The fashion in which you were agreeing. Cory, I'm bugging.

[C]

He had the back teeth while he was.

[A]

That man went crazy up there. You ain't do that. Yes, he did. All the.

[D]

We talked up here. That went and did the total opposite.

[C]

You did not do that.

[A]

He ain't hold it down at all. At all. I never seen you agree like that.

[D]

He was like, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you right, you right, you right.

[C]

You right.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And he was mumbling. He was mumbling to himself. Yeah, you right. That's true.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

She made a good point right there.

[A]

Like, she didn't even say seven words. And he agreed with her.

[C]

You believe him?

[A]

Yes, yes. You were agreeable.

[C]

I was agreeing with her. Certain shit. I agreed certain shit. I didn't.

[A]

I didn't hear when you did.

[D]

You didn't. You didn't.

[A]

I didn't hear when you didn't. Hey, if you didn't disagree. If you didn't agree. I missed that part. You sounded like y' all was locked. And I thought y' all was boys to women.

[C]

The first.

[A]

Oh, no.

[D]

We go.

[A]

Yeah. I thought y' all was Rick. Rick, Rick, Rick.

[C]

N. That's a bad clip.

[A]

Ebony and ivory.

[C]

It was chopped. Chopped up or something.

[A]

Nope, his neck was.

[C]

Yo, y' all are, bro. Nah, Sorry.

[A]

What the hell? Sorry. You ain't go there and do that. Yeah, no, that's my man, but I ain't rolling. Yo, you anything for a check, I guess.

[C]

Me.

[A]

Yeah, but.

[D]

But look, she could have just been personable. He met her. She put the char. She was Mad nice and cool.

[A]

She was cool, Doc, you wait till I see you. It ain't gonna be none of that agreeing. It ain't gonna be nothing. Hey, Doc, you might have the wrong impression of the JVP up here. I mean, wait till I see you now.

[B]

You gotta put your best. There's a professional woman around tone on when she comes around.

[A]

Yeah, well, we gotta see. Yeah, we gotta see. I didn't meet her, but I don't think I'll do like ish. I agree. Cooler than ish, right? I'd have text her later. Yo, you made some good points up there. I wouldn't even look like that.

[C]

We was having a side conversation the whole time.

[A]

That's the other thing. I'd have been stoic. I wouldn't have been side. I wouldn't have been. I ain't here to be buddy, buddy.

[C]

My n. It's war.

[B]

War.

[C]

It's not war, though.

[A]

It's not, though. It is gender war.

[C]

Y' all wanted it to be war.

[A]

Yeah. The manosphere was looking forward to you ending it.

[C]

Yeah. You supposed to go in there.

[D]

No, I wasn't.

[C]

Like Game of Thrones and come out.

[A]

With the head on a spike.

[C]

Yes. I wasn't supposed to.

[A]

Don't never say nothing about the Red Wedding again. You don't. You don't. Don't say. Don't utter another word about the red Wedding.

[B]

That was the Red Wedding.

[A]

That was the Red Wedding.

[B]

She could on y'.

[A]

All. Oh, man. Damn, son. Did anybody see. Did anybody wait. We was not done with Cardo. They have pictures of her coming out the court. Don't make me say it. Last time I said it, I got in trouble. I didn't see. Confirm it. I'm do it. No, not confirmed.

[C]

I'm talking about.

[A]

But just people with eyes can look and see that. Okay, she's pregnant now. She's not gonna confirm it because, you know, women have the rule of I gotta make sure my baby is healthy and make sure I'm having this. And. Yeah, so she's not.

[B]

I'm sure there's a rollout involved to some degree with the.

[A]

I'm not gonna do that. I mean, you're probably right.

[B]

I'm not saying, like, rollout for commercial purposes, but women like to do the.

[A]

Reveal and the picture on their own time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's 100 true. Yeah. All of that's on the positive side of looking at it. I did look at the negative side with my girl. Pillow talk. Pillow talking. That's the thing. My girl be in people business that she don't have no business business. That's the other part, too. Yo, I had to tell you. Yo, mind your business. But sometimes points are made.

[D]

Okay, I ain't saying it.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[D]

If you're not gonna say the negative side, then none of us gonna say it.

[A]

We're all waiting to see what happens with this baby. That's what I'll say.

[C]

That was good.

[A]

Everybody's just waiting to see the announcement and who announces and the pictures. That's it. That's it. I don't do kids. We hope that Cardi has a healthy baby and all that. But yeah, visibly pregnant in the pictures. For those people that kicked my back in not too long ago for saying, hey, if you're Atlanta, you do have to look at the possibility of keep putting albums out, having to work through. Yeah, this boy. They killed me for that.

[B]

You're not supposed to.

[A]

You're not supposed to what?

[B]

Speculated for when it's pregnant. That's why they. It's.

[A]

But I wasn't.

[B]

It's.

[A]

You're not supposed to. But I wasn't speculating on if she was pregnant.

[B]

You were just hypothetical.

[A]

I was speculating on Atlantic having to roll out an album with somebody that's pregnant. Right. I was talking from there.

[B]

Hypothetical.

[A]

Yeah. Not hers.

[C]

You would never say that if it was a man.

[D]

Well, men don't get pregnant.

[A]

Only while Mark is gone. I don't even know if Mark is coming in today after the footage I seen online. Him.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Getting pummeled.

[B]

Yeah, him. Indian. I think what happened. They were at the wrestling. The fourth rope shot. The Gun who dropped album today, which is phenomenal.

[A]

Damn, I didn't hear that one.

[B]

It's really, really dope.

[A]

He's one of just my favorite people in hip hop, period. If I don't ever hear another album from him, he's one of my favorite people in hip hop.

[C]

Is it rap and gun?

[B]

It's rapping Gun and it's like. It sounds like a little. Sometimes there's like intentional gun and it sounds like some having fun.

[C]

I was bored.

[B]

This one sounds intentional.

[C]

Then I'm listening.

[B]

It's tough. Lots of.

[C]

That's when I. With gun.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I say it all the time. When he take it serious and goes in with intention, like, I want to make a song or album or project, whatever.

[A]

It'd be heat.

[B]

It's one of the ones you would like for sure.

[C]

My man.

[A]

What you were saying earlier, Flip.

[D]

When About Jussie Smollett.

[A]

Oh, that's what you were saying, Jussie Smollett?

[D]

Yeah, I said that. You watched it. And real quick, you gotta stop saying the two men are Haitian.

[A]

Nigerian. I'm sorry.

[D]

Like, no. All right, good.

[A]

Honest mistake.

[D]

I corrected you before. You go on Twitter days later and write the Haitian. How is that? Hey, yo, speaking of the man who's not black. Watch your mouth. Was that an honest mistake? Because it's a mistake to say somebody is Haitian.

[C]

In. In.

[A]

In.

[C]

In. In Nigerian. That's not an honest mistake. My.

[D]

He's doing. He's trying to say he's doing it on purpose.

[A]

You're trying to say I'm not doing it on purpose if I'm calling them Haitian. So I thought they was Haitian. I didn't remember that they was Nigerian. That's why I'm saying it's honest mistake. I ain't trying to be funny. It's no joke.

[C]

Oh, I love the Haitians.

[D]

I know you do. Me, too. Yeah. So you finally watch the documentary?

[A]

Yeah, I'm waiting for Mark to get here because. Okay.

[D]

You wanna wait for Mark.

[C]

Did you really watch it?

[A]

Yeah, I watched that.

[C]

Yeah. Watch it.

[A]

I can't believe people are so stupid. People are so stupid.

[C]

I see it worked on a couple people. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

It worked on some people. People are idiots.

[D]

You still think that? No, I'm just. It didn't work on me, but I'm just saying.

[A]

Let me tell you something. This is what I'll say about this before Mark gets here, because I don't even feel like doing this with Mark either. And I feel like I've spent enough years on Jussie Pause. This is what I'll say, because I don't want to be negative. I appreciate the type of liar that Jussie Smollett is. This is, like my favorite kind of liar. And I used to be this type of liar. I changed.

[C]

I was just about to be like.

[A]

I used to be this type of liar. So I have a special place in my heart for people that lie, get caught and keep the lie going. Even though the whole world know he lying and you still won't admit it. I used to do that until a couple of my significant others set me straight. I don't lie like that anymore. But I have a. I'm. I have an affinity for the people that do. Jussie Smollett is nuts. How he's going about attempting to cover this lie up, and I can't get mad at him. Let me not do that. He's not nuts. He's now collecting a bag for continuing a lie. So who's the dummy? Me, him or y'? All?

[B]

The problem I had is that I don't trust a single human being in that doc. I don't trust the Chicago police. They seem like they've done some. They're police anyway, so like they'd be doing some. The, the brothers, they're selling a book. I don't know what's going on. The one dude is, they. He had some with him. I forgot what it was. But guns, guns. And he's trying to get in acting. There's a whole bunch. There's no trustworthy post with which to hang your hat on.

[A]

Yeah, but I got some experience in not being trustworthy too. Sometimes the person that you don't trust at all and don't have a history of ever telling the truth, it's on you and we just never gonna think it. Or, or so even they tried that in the dog. This is the history that the Chicago police have of lying on facts. Facts. I'm not pushing my chips to the center of the poker table on Chicago policing. Yeah, but this one, but this one, I think a high profile case came to their front door. I think there was pressure from the mayor and the office and the world for them to solve it. Yes, I think they interviewed the Nigerian brothers who tried to hold it down and not tell. Not because they were selling illegal fucking supplements either. Like, do you think I was born yesterday?

[B]

Yeah, that was funny.

[A]

They weren't. The Nigerian brothers didn't do.

[B]

I got, I got, I got a complete, I got. I don't feel good about it, it, but I, I wanted to lose a little bit of belly fat. And the Nigerians had a supplement.

[A]

Keep buying Ozempic from these is, is why they have a 3,500 dollar check. Hey, if you believe that, Cool. I'm pillow talking with my girl about you.

[B]

Yeah, I don't believe anybody is my problem.

[A]

Oh wait, we'll go back to what I'm saying. So pressure from the outside world and yada, yada, yada, they find the Nigerian brothers who hold it down. They not telling until they see a Jussie Smollett interview that tick them off and say, you know what? Now, now we'll talk and we'll come clean. They have their account. The cameras have an account. Yeah, I believe, I believe that the cops had pressure talk to these niggas and once they started talking, hey, if the Nigerian brothers tell that to the cops, the cops have every right to go to Jussie now and say, hey, buddy, stop. We're investigating. Like, there's nothing wrong is happening here. I don't know what he talking about.

[C]

And I remember when it was going on, the cops got tight.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because during that climate especially, it was around Black Lives Matter, all of that stuff. And they started taking this shit seriously. They said they start putting additional police man hours and all of that shit into the investigation to find the white boys. It was pressure to solve this shit. Yeah.

[D]

What do you say about that?

[A]

And everything that we questioned Jussie about? Now, in the remake, mixed version is a little different. He talking about, yeah, I left the house. Cause I was going there. He wasn't going to subway. He was going somewhere else. I was going to Publix or some. Yeah, yeah. And it was closed, so that's how I ended up in subway. No, you didn't.

[B]

Yeah, he heard. He heard us saying, why did the.

[A]

Did you get the subway? Yeah, I gotta answer. That's a lie. Then he said, yeah, the dude in the mask. I told him it was a white man. No, you didn't. You didn't tell him that. No, you did not. I don't believe that. Sorry.

[D]

So what about the 10 seconds that's missing at the end of the video?

[A]

Oh, please. So what? So what?

[B]

My thing with the video, too.

[A]

So what were they?

[B]

Where they had the purported white men with the masks off. There was a couple things I had with that. Number one, I don't know if that's the same people walking that was walking in the other videos. And number two, I said that, too. All the cameras are filmed. It's dark as there's no street lights, or not enough street lights to generate good images. This one is miraculously bright, crystal clear. No, what that tells me is they turn the little brightness knob all the way up. And now these men look.

[A]

What? White.

[C]

Oh, yo, you smart.

[B]

I'm not that smart. I just edited a photo or two of a phone before. And if you break the bright brightness up, it'll make it look like it's.

[A]

That's how them got my Patreon numbers. Brightness up on yo dog on that same.

[B]

And it didn't look white either, by the way.

[A]

None of that on the Jussie doc. When the cops got there, he had the new song looking stupid in the face. Like, they show up.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Like, I don't know how y' all seen that. And then said said, you know what? This guy's on to something.

[C]

Some jump you.

[A]

And then by the time that. By the time they found two other people to corroborate his story about seeing white people running around, it was the neighbor that lived upstairs that he took to Starbucks a couple times. And the other neighbor. Yeah, yeah. What are you saying? Get Jussie smollett ass the. @ jussie, it's over.

[C]

That new was.

[A]

It's over, dog.

[C]

They do it.

[A]

It's over.

[C]

Kept the new song. All right.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yo, that. That part right there, that would have been enough for me. That was enough for me.

[A]

You know the other part that did it for me. Even in real time, like, there were consistencies in the wannabe martyr theory, in the wannabe martyr claim. Like when he lost the case and he turned around, put his fist up.

[C]

Yo, Jesse, who cares?

[A]

No, Nobody said, I wonder if he's suicidal over the Subway Cakes, the Subway Sandwich.

[D]

No, he was basically saying that if they. If something happens to me, I ain't do it. I didn't do it.

[A]

Y' all not.

[C]

I'm following.

[A]

Y' all hear me?

[C]

I'm following.

[A]

I. I'm telling you, nothing was going to happen to Jussie was fine.

[C]

It wasn't no billions about to be.

[A]

Nobody thought about killing him, stabbing him. Nobody thought about putting him in a full nelson. If there's one person who was fine, Jussie was fine. But he wanted to be a martyr so bad, he turned around, tried to get the Donald Trump picture. When he got. Almost got shot in the. He tried to get that off for. For. For his. The oppressed people. Jesse. No, no, no. Tell Oprah and Lee Daniels that the jig is up. Sorry. Anyway, and the story like, for as intelligent as Mark is, he say some stupid sometimes. Yeah, but he say it under the guys of like, this is my friend. It's my homie. So I'm gonna try to. He's like too even kill for me. Get your friend the out of here.

[B]

I don't want to.

[A]

I can't wait till he get here so I can dis his friend.

[B]

I don't want to speak for all white people that maybe MAGA people, because I don't associate with these humans. But I don't think they were watching Empire enough to be like, hey, that's that person from Empire. Let's get them.

[A]

That's true. Oh, speaking of white MAGA people, word is that the young lady that lost her life on January 6th, Ashley Insurrection is getting a military funeral.

[C]

Huh?

[A]

Word is that the young lady who lost her life I Heard you. Oh, your mic's off. Oh, is this on? Yeah. Is getting a military funeral. I will ask how y' all feel about that? I'm just putting that out in the ethos.

[D]

And lost their life. I don't.

[C]

Her name was Ashley Babbitt. She was the one that tried to climb through the window, and the guard went on the other side the of.

[A]

Stop.

[C]

They had it all barricaded, and he kept warning her in the secret. I think he was in secret Service. He kept saying, stop.

[A]

He was in the secret Service, and he kept saying that, yes, stop.

[C]

Do not.

[A]

Do not enter. I will use deadly force. Yada, yada, yada. She continued fatally.

[B]

Rest in peace.

[A]

Rest in peace. But January 6th was a crime.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which has some people wondering how she gets a military funeral.

[B]

Was she in the military? I don't know, because I'm not sure if maybe she was in the service that she would get a military funeral. Regardless.

[C]

The January 6th, I don't know. Is insane.

[B]

It is because it was an insurrection.

[C]

No, this is the funny part, where the MAGA whites start to be nuts. If those were all black. No, real quick, real quick. She was an Air Force veteran.

[B]

Oh, so maybe that was just.

[C]

That might be it. If a bunch of black people stormed the Capitol while Congress is in session.

[B]

It would have been fam.

[C]

They would have been giving them 10, 15, and 20 years, calling it treason. No, they wouldn't.

[B]

They would be dead.

[C]

They'd be dead. Even better. You're right. You're right. The ones that did not pass away would have been getting 20 years and 30 years. They going in there. Oh, you breached national security. They stole somebody's laptop. They did all of those things in the middle of a congressional session. Yeah, bro. And they would have been right. That's the funny part. Like, they would have been right. And this should have been. Back in May, the Trump administration agreed to pay almost $5 million to her family in a wrongful death settlement.

[A]

I didn't mean to keep us here.

[C]

No, you don't have.

[A]

No, that's fine. Rest in peace to Ashley. Sure hope they're a family as well.

[C]

Indeed.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Virtual outstanding.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Virtual outstanding. I like that version.

[A]

I want to get in. I want to get into music. Yeah. Because the. The Mark Abolition. One wrong segue and they on my ass. I want to get into new music because new music did come out. But I want to cover this Funk Master Flex announcement first. Is anybody familiar? Yeah. Funk Master Flex announced a few days ago via Instagram and on his socials that this Monday, labor day, Labor Day, September 1st, would be the very last Funk Master Flex show. He said this would be his last show at whatever time it was at 7:00pm yeah. The wording had some people confused.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They didn't know if he was leaving Hot 97. They didn't know if he was getting a new show. They didn't know what was going on. And I think by now it's been. It's been announced. TMZ announced what's going on. Yeah.

[D]

DJ Camelo and DJ Enough are now free agents. And Funk Flex, his time slot has moved. It's just changed time slots. I figured that's all.

[C]

Yeah. When I first read it, I said it's not.

[A]

That's all.

[C]

He's not leaving.

[A]

That's not a that's all thing.

[D]

What do you mean?

[A]

I can't let you say that's all. There's no that's all about it.

[C]

What was that? What was the.

[A]

That have been there for.

[D]

Yo, I'm not talking about that's all to them. I'm talking about. I'm not. No, no, not to Enough and Carmelo. No, that's all to them. Oh, I want to clear. That's my guys.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Not at all.

[A]

Shout Out Enough broke my first record.

[D]

I can't. I'm nest.

[A]

That's not what I mean. I can do that.

[D]

I meant that he was just moving his time slot from 5pm to 10pm that's what I meant.

[B]

It wasn't a retirement. It's the.

[D]

It wasn't a retirement.

[B]

Yes, that's what it read like, a retirement.

[D]

Yeah, it did. I mean, 50. Everybody was promoting, everybody was surprised. And I mean, Flex was re. Re sharing it. And then TMZ broke the news.

[A]

So it didn't read like a retirement to me.

[C]

I didn't see that at all.

[A]

Only because if. I mean. I mean, we've been over here for all this time. If Funkmaster Flex was leaving Hot 97 not to be heard from again, you would get more than three days notice before his final show. There's no world where that would happen. Flex is part of niggas upbringing. He's part of this culture. Even if he was on bad standing with Hot 97, Hot 97 would honor him on his way out. Out properly. Much more so than three days.

[B]

Yeah, he would probably have a retirement tour.

[A]

That's. That's 1, 2. I probably am privy to a little more information because used to work at i97 and that is that not too many People know Reese, maybe two years ago, I want to say a year and a half ago, I was, I was. Two years ago, I want to say I was pitching a concept to radio that involved me ended up ending up on radio free of charge. So I had some conversations back then and in those conversations I know that Funk Flex is more than on air talent to Hot 97.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

So even in the world that he was no longer on air, he would be a part of the Hot 97 family. Flex is not going anywhere.

[C]

He's seemingly a really, really, really smart businessman. Like he was doing some of the branding and all that shit back in the day. Really, bro, Nobody even thought like he had a truck, you know what I'm saying? Like he was doing brand deals with GMC or who, you know what I mean? Like mad other people. So I don't think he just. Nigga, that's just talent.

[A]

So now flex is from five to 10. Nessa, her time slot changed as well. One to five. So Nessa's one to five, flex from five to 10. And the Ebro in the morning show, the morning show is now from 6 to 11.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yes. So they added an hour.

[D]

How do you feel about. Because you just said about Enough of Camelo. How does that. Because we know them and Enough Been There, you know, is a staple as well. How do you. How does that make you feel? Cause you was about to, you know. What was your opinion on Enough Leaving?

[A]

I mean, listen, some, some of us listen. If you from New York and you of a certain age, you grew up with this shit, man. It's too many timeless, countless hip hop moments that have come from Hot 97 and the names that we naming here. Like I said, with Enough, he broke my very first, my very first record. Any actually, any record I thought was radio worthy. I ran to him who controlled that five o' clock free ride mix hour. That was a very important hour in radio. It was because in radio everything was rotation. So you either high rotation, mid rotation, low rotation. But The Mix Show DJs at that time had the freedom to play whatever they wanted to play. So a little known artist like me, with no label support, with no support from. Right. If you had a good enough relationship, you could get your joint blade. And if it reacted well, I mean, that changed my life. So I know, I know the amount of lives that DJ Enough Camillo and Flex have changed. Camilo should be fine. He is a huge New York dj. He is the biggest dj. He's a huge New York and New Jersey dj. Huge dj, period. But he ain't gonna skip a beat. Enough. Enough. I don't know about enough. I don't know about.

[C]

But a lot of. A lot of the New York DJs, they're going to the new station.

[A]

What? I don't know, a new station.

[C]

94.

[D]

7 the block.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A lot of them are going over there.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Ed lovers over there. Moni and Jones.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Okay, so.

[A]

Okay, I didn't know that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So we'll see.

[C]

Let's. We'll see how you talk about you saying moments. Like I ain't had a. A record being broke moment from any radios. Like Flex did Otis. Yeah, like.

[D]

Like 25 minutes.

[A]

Flex to death for too many records.

[C]

I'm talking about since then, though, since, like, that was the last one.

[B]

Nah. I push through this story, added on.

[C]

Whatever I remember hitting like Otis did, bro. He just.

[B]

Oh, it didn't hit. But he broke that, right?

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying that moment, like hours.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Sit back and talk about where they were when he did that for Otis.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like Flex personifies hip hop. You hear him talk about with Red, like when they go on a real hip hop bag. Yeah. Them start with Red Alert and all of that and the Roxy and this.

[A]

This.

[C]

He's a student of hip hop. For real.

[A]

For real.

[C]

So he's just him.

[A]

And again, I mean, just watching businesses. I spent most of my hours just watching businesses. High 97 is not doing. They're doing great in terms of ratings as a private company that owns them. So they cut some overhead. They're reshuffling with who they.

[C]

Who.

[A]

Who are their more powerful people. People. More Ebro, more Flex, more Nessa. They're doubling down on probably their highest paid talent. I don't know. I don't know what nobody makes.

[C]

No, no, no. True.

[A]

I just love all those people. So I'm not pocket watching. But yeah, they doubling down.

[C]

A lot of sense.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it makes sense to me. Salute.

[C]

We don't need five slots. Five to ten.

[A]

Joe Button hour in there somewhere. For the free. For the free. I was shopping. I get creative and get the shopping ideas and I got a lot of.

[C]

Yeah, it wasn't for the free.

[A]

It was for the free.

[C]

I know it was for free, Flea slash.

[A]

There was. There was no compensation package involved like it should have been.

[C]

Like it should have been. Yeah, you heard him. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'm coming somewhere. You talk about I'm coming somewhere free of charge. It's just one little thing for this big back end thing. And I ain't going to lie. We got a lot of love. We got a. That, that opportunity was there. So shout. Shout out to radio. Shout out to radio.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I love radio.

[A]

So, yeah, I don't listen to as.

[C]

Much as I should, but I do actually a lot.

[A]

Radio. It always. It'll always be here. When Sirius was here, they said, we'll be gone. It's still here. When this thing came, they said, radio don't radio. Radio's here, It'll be here. And you need it sometimes. Yeah, you do. You need it sometimes. And you already know what an hour, Joe. But two hours of joke. Know what time it is. Stop playing with me.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, you know, I had the same.

[A]

I had the same.

[D]

I had a similar picture, cuz I.

[A]

Wasn'T going to hide. I was going to bls.

[B]

He's trying to compete with.

[A]

You hear that?

[C]

Okay, that's different.

[A]

You trying to compete with him.

[D]

Well, his was, you know, quite storm on him.

[A]

You know what time that is, Joe? But on bls, you did that. Two hours cutting the mic off, talking my running like, come on, stop. You miss.

[C]

You miss the amp. You might not have a voice for now.

[D]

He got the voice.

[A]

Do you hear my voice? Is my mic on? Yeah, all right. You hear my voice?

[C]

It's a joke.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

It wasn't conversation.

[A]

Do you know that people, what people say about my voice? Yo, I keep.

[C]

Keep it moving.

[A]

I can care less.

[C]

I'm far from.

[A]

They ain't mad at me. Do you know what they said about my voice in Buffalo Wild Wings? Like when they. When they ain't even know who I was. Homeboy that was hating. I said he broadcast. He was like, yeah, yeah, I could tell that, that, that voice. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. That's what he said. What's up?

[D]

No, I was saying that I had the same pitch, but his was before, I guess.

[C]

Yeah, they went to. They went to you. You can't even help yourself. I wish they could have caught my camera.

[D]

We got. We got this document.

[C]

Don't listen to this talk that I.

[A]

Didn'T say a word. Don't make no faces.

[D]

This document documented. We was at the. Come on, you saw us. And I posted it on purpose. We was practicing and all that.

[C]

That's when Ebro choked you up.

[D]

No, that was years ago.

[A]

You open the door, Ebro's coming in. My birthday dinner, too. So you squashed it.

[D]

I may not be Coming? I may not be.

[A]

That's why he not coming. Oh, okay. I didn't know he wasn't coming.

[D]

No, no, I'm trying. I gotta go to.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta go where? Away from Ebro?

[D]

No, tonight.

[C]

I gotta.

[D]

I have to go somewhere tonight. And hopefully I'll be available tomorrow.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[D]

I'll let you know.

[A]

No, I'm not gonna ask.

[B]

Refer to the first hour.

[A]

You have to let me know. Like, if you did, you did. You're not. You're not. This ain't. No, I don't have an RSVP link.

[D]

No, no, it has nothing to do with that. It's some personal shit that's going on, man. I talked to you about it before. When? I couldn't talk about it when I had my hand wrapped up.

[A]

Is everything good with Milfield?

[D]

Why don't you call an accent that.

[A]

I'm not calling Milie. What you talking about? I assume she's rock with milfy like that.

[D]

You said what?

[A]

I'm rock with Milky like that Mac. You know what side of. And you almost got me in trouble. Last part.

[D]

I rock with Megan Mil.

[C]

I rock with both of them. You talking about you know how many pod you almost get me in trouble.

[A]

Give a.

[D]

What did he say so I can say it? No, I should. I should be out here tomorrow.

[A]

Well, I hope to see you there. If not, then maybe some other people will come.

[D]

Like who? Like who? Like who? I don't understand you.

[A]

I just want to move on.

[D]

No, no, no, no. I don't understand your joke. Stop backing down from me. Don't back down from me.

[A]

No, I'm backing down. It's easy to see when you look at. Yo, if you look closely that I'm going back down. Yeah, I'm backing down. All right. What else needs are you our attention or doesn't need our attention? And we're gonna give it to him anyway. Let's see. Doris Burke, Young Thug Funk. Oh, music, music, music, music, music, music, music. Hey, Freeze. We lost a lot of our music knowledge when you left. When you left and kicked the Jamaican off the rap. So your girl didn't get the massage.

[C]

She deserved no, she got the one she deserved.

[A]

Hey. When you left and kicked the Jamaican off the rap. And your girl was mad but couldn't tell you nothing. Cause she love you, baby.

[D]

And you know I'm proud. I'm proud of you. RUP Quick. I'm look, I'm looking at. I'm look. I'm looking at your hands, man. I could tell you wasn't. You was stress free. Your shit's just coming in. I was watching you this whole time. You have been biting your hands. That means that you've been. You've been. The anxiety's been down. I'm. I'm over here. That's our smilers. I'm like, look at Freeze hands. I swear to God, I watch that. No, for real. His anxiety is involved. That means he had a good time with his girl. I like that.

[A]

Great time, man. Yeah.

[D]

Shout out to Freeze. He know he doing this nigga be biting his skin off.

[C]

Freeze that got that off the rap. I was good at.

[B]

Let you Freeze Jealous of Donovan, yo.

[C]

Yeah, I wasn't jealous of Donovan. Donovan got the out of here. Winston.

[A]

Trevor.

[D]

That's my name.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Music. What music? What music needs our attention the most? Joey Badass dropped.

[B]

Joey dropped and gun dropped. That's. For me. That was. That's what I got. I'm not sure what else was out there. Oh, D. Smoke dropped something. I didn't listen to it yet.

[A]

It. I heard that Deep Smoke album is incredible.

[B]

I'm sure it is.

[A]

I heard that. I heard that. And shout out to her.

[D]

I saw that.

[A]

Her.

[C]

I saw that.

[A]

Fine ass. Her.

[C]

Yes, indeed.

[A]

Anyway, talent.

[C]

Talent. Very talented woman.

[B]

That's true, too.

[A]

And, well, that first. Talented first. But her is fine.

[C]

No, I know, but speak to the talent. That little gold skin.

[A]

Her. Her is fine. Yeah, but her sent a little. A little nod to us, said she is in the studio. Parks told us she was in the studio. Her. We just want to know when we can hear it.

[B]

Yeah, that's all.

[A]

Yeah, we think you're in the studio, but we want to know when we can hear it. You have our support ready for that and we love you. But on to albums that drop. Joey Badass Lonely at the top. Listen, man, where you want to go here?

[D]

I like it.

[B]

I like it too. I like it, too. I'm actually. I'm disappointed in Joey, but not because of the album, because I like the album. I'm disappointed because I think that he had one of the most impactful years he's probably ever had in terms of music release. I think that he probably had one of the more impactful appearances in the culture, at least for the first half of this year. And there was no fanfare behind this album. Like, I barely knew that it dropped except for going to Apple Music or that it was dropping. And that shouldn't be. That shouldn't be. He's a star. He's on tv. He's great at what he does. This should be promoted. Heavier than. This is now in your phone. This is on Columbia. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, listen. Eleven songs, 40 minutes. I don't think he's ever relied on being the most promoted act. Yeah, that's true, I think.

[C]

But you strike. But he's. Yeah, but he's grown in his popularity, and he never had a year like this before.

[A]

He did that, though. Yeah, he did, for sure. No, a label didn't do that.

[C]

No, no, no. Correct.

[A]

So then why are we to think that a label's supposed to jump in now and fuck it, he went and got.

[C]

Cause if the label sees that you got hot. Hotter than you might have ever been on a. Not on a rap standpoint. Cause he could rap, and he always have had fanfare.

[A]

Not our goal.

[B]

I also don't put this on the label because back to your point, he did all the shit he did in the spring or early summer on his own. So why isn't he running around? He's got relationships and connections with everybody.

[A]

That I've seen him pop up on a few podcasts, but not as much.

[B]

As it should be.

[A]

If.

[B]

And the album is good.

[A]

Well, he's supposed to come up here at some point. Joe. You should come up here.

[B]

He should have been here right now. He should be right there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, I think he was actually scheduled for today, but then something. Schedule for this week, but something happened. But if you want to say that he could have done more to get the. The awareness up for the project. I'm not mad at that. In terms of the project, though, there's.

[B]

Some joints out here.

[A]

I think it's pretty good. I'm gonna play track one just so y' all see where he's coming from. Sure. I think he started on some rap. Rap with Dark Aura and Swank White.

[B]

The west side Gun record is the one fun for me.

[A]

I'm just playing this so you could hear where he was at at the start. He did come on. Trying to rap. Yeah, for sure. Hey.

[C]

Yeah, tell me up on the headphones, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That'S right.

[A]

Anytime you hear, turn me up on the headphones. You already know. You know what's happening. This here Go.

[C]

Yeah. Lifestyles of the rich and famous. Custom fitted suits, tailor waistband, touch the stainless, got to move. Slipping dangers, they going to have to lift them wages. You ain't talking money. You must be talking in different languages.

[A]

All right, you hear? He's on some rap. Swank White, track two.

[B]

This is my. Right here.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, big swank white and all that. A lot of talk. That talker walk that walk. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah. Word up.

[C]

Check it out. Reporting live from the side where the glass is Dream to do this for my with dreams to pushing Benz and Beamers Dodge and go Subpoena state text and misdemeanors AP got the screw face but my bitch is meaner Pockets on blue face neck hitting like Krishan rocks deeper than rap yo, this that fine art Since a lil nigga had a lion heart Always get the line got my mind clear Now I'm buying stocks.

[A]

All right, track three is where things get interesting for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, before you play it, I just. Cause I just remember something. We was asking about the label. Huh? Last month he was beefing with the label.

[B]

Yeah, he was. He was. I forgot about that.

[C]

Yeah, Just last month he was like, my album been done over a month ago. I've been turned it in. They pushed it back. Not because of a feature, not because of a sample, not because of any clearances. And he was like, this is exhibit A of the label getting in the artist's way and post it with middle fingers.

[B]

That's true. I do remember that he was on live.

[C]

Yeah. So now. Now this makes sense.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. But track three is where I want to say that this project is his most commercially viable project.

[B]

I disagree with that, but I know.

[A]

You do, because we was talking outside.

[B]

I know, but you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to break the fourth wall this way.

[A]

I know you do, but.

[C]

Yeah. What you are witnessing right now.

[A]

Checkmate.

[B]

This is a more commercial record. This is a great record.

[A]

And what year did you say this was?

[B]

This was 2017.

[A]

This is definitely 2017, Joey.

[B]

I think this might be his most successful single. I'm making that up, but I'm pretty sure it's true.

[A]

It just don't sound like it's really out of his wheelhouse. He don't sound like he's reaching for a cigar.

[C]

Sound like I'm chasing, Not chasing. I want to say that.

[A]

Let's let him cook. So Parker, get his point out. Like, I used. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[B]

That's old music. So I don't want to keep highlighting it, but I think that this album was his most, like, commercial. And to your point, of. Of it doesn't feel like he's trying. That's when good hit records usually happen, is when it's like, oh, this is this looks like you looks like you it feels like you it doesn't sound like you're stepping out of your pocket it's just a hit record and it wasn't here.

[C]

That's devastating, right? Yeah, that is a little successful.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This sounds like he wants more success. I went in with the intention I.

[C]

Can'T lose Put me against whole crews Stab on for Dolo pulling up for the logo Hitting nothing but the bottom of the net no joke and the pole was the hooky to a vet if I had the flex wouldn't even be a stretch I just raised the bar and increased my rep Y' all is lightweight crown on my hand heavier than the sky Squake views from the top Higher than the crime rate in my state it's high stakes they call me at the wrong time in the right place in my case I try to play nice Cuz what's behind these bars and make your face light step.

[A]

The street this is hard.

[C]

You know what it is? That record does sound like I'm. I'm chasing after a more commercial, but that one sound like I wanted a crossover record.

[B]

Okay, that may be true.

[C]

Yeah. This still sound like a rap song.

[A]

This is hard.

[B]

This is hard. It sounds like some 2000s era. Neptune sounds like.

[A]

Feel like Fab and Khalis are supposed to come on in two seconds. But again he's got ty$sign on here. Oh, this asap. Ferg record is hard. But yeah, like listen to what he's doing.

[D]

I like the listen I like the.

[B]

Rome streets.

[C]

Hopping out with the mask Watch his whole life flash It's a slide show every day it's a dice roll Might get his head cracked Niggas ain't playing fair Tryna make his bread back they go crazy when they see low green when you get the hot hand and kill they self esteem street dreams are made of these My uncle whip just got scenes for 100 keys couldn't believe it when I heard the news though I always knew that the hustle spit but it's in my blood Just a different path I had to choose I'm having it my way Ain't playing by the rules real places I'm.

[A]

With what he doing Wait a minute.

[C]

I just are ready.

[A]

Like really polished choruses for sure. Really clean radio appeal Beats for sure. Musically, I think there's a lot of potential with this. I like this project. No, I don't think it's. It's better than his last project. Cuz that hit me on my heartstrings.

[B]

That was a great album.

[A]

Yeah, he absolutely smoked that shit. But this I like somebody's profile raising and them attempting to match it musically.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

Absolutely. For sure. But also keeping enough stuff on there that it's not going to alienate his car.

[A]

Yeah, he. And he wrapped enough on here to me to do all that beefing that he did this summer. He didn't do that. And then totally abandoned rapping.

[B]

Yeah. So he got a couple joints where he's singing. Yeah, I thought it was black.

[A]

Shout out to Joey Badass. Hopefully we get him on his couch soon. Pause. What else you got?

[B]

Gun man.

[C]

Yeah, let me. Let me hear something off this. Gun country.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is Amaria Kitchen. None of the song titles ever make sense with me.

[A]

No fire.

[C]

Oh, drums.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, some drums. On the other.

[D]

I still wear ski masks for the.

[A]

Dividends Eating Michelin BT wars and my.

[C]

Chrome lock Timberlands Rest in peace X have my plug sense him again Super Fly Garfield.

[A]

Hard. It's hard.

[B]

He did the thing where he doesn't put the features on there and it. No, this. This dude. I think it's the third verse.

[A]

Put the features. You guys.

[B]

I think this is the third verse. I don't know who this is. He's nice though.

[C]

Be all right. Everything working.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If I'mma do it, I might as well do it right and exact. Ruined the movement. We came and got it intact. Well, in fact, I keep a shooter and he going to do just that.

[A]

I have no idea who this is.

[C]

Brother Tom Situation pick.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

That's also the person on the hook.

[D]

Hands in the air with champagne glasses. This a stick.

[C]

I'm trying to tell you that you.

[D]

Shouldn'T burn that bridge.

[B]

And guns back. Yeah, Sky Zoo's got a great verse shout out to Sky Zoo. Stove's got a couple hooks and. And a verse project's great. Benny Body his shout out to Gun man.

[C]

Yo, speaking of stubble, did you see what he said about how he came up with the FICO hook?

[B]

Oh, on Joe and Jada.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, yo, Pharrell sent the reference over. Yeah, I'll get to that later. I'm doing this. And smoked it in one take.

[B]

Yeah. Fire shots.

[A]

And brother Alan Rashid, he delivered some powerful poetry. Name is. He was killing too. Yeah, I would know his name if y' all put featuring such and such.

[B]

Is annoying as hell, bro. That shit is annoying. Especially when it's someone that I don't know. Like Sky Zoo comes on Cool. I know Sky Zoo. I don't know who that is. I'd like to know who that is.

[A]

Gunna Gun, to me, I gotta say, is one of my. One of the best doing it in hip hop. And y' all could determine whatever the it is, because I am not really talking about rapping, but his curation of things is the best. Yeah, like in terms of being a rapper to open other doors, being an executive of niggas that know how to rap, his wrestling shit, he's one of the best in fashion. I just think he's one of the best innovators. And it's important to say that because he's been going on diatribes about how niggas like Fantano and a bunch of other niggas that don't matter are determining, are helping people feel about great people. So I don't want to be a part of that. Gunner is Gun Gunna Gunn is absolutely killing this shit. And it needs to be said. And on all fronts. On all fronts, Shout out to Gun. Shout the Gun. Gun. Good luck with everything.

[B]

In that interview, still was talking about how Gun has basically held down. It sounds like Stove is in a bad deal somewhere and can't really put out, but he's like, Gun is taking me out and putting me on the road and keeping money in my pocket, basically.

[C]

Gotta salute that.

[B]

Gotta salute that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, you do. What else is. What else is happening musically? I want to stop the press for Division. Oh, I want to stop the press for Division. Because as Division fans, we've been going through it. As Division fans out here, we had to deal with that fucking if I get caught cheating, stupid bullshit record that him and them niggas came up with in that Atlanta studio. Then we had to deal with them coming to a fucking Astoria basement and telling us it was Heat, one of.

[C]

The greatest of all time.

[A]

Yeah, we had to sit there and paw through that bullshit. Then Jermaine Dupree came here, says some shit is on the way. We don't really know. We didn't know. Then I got a text from Daniel that was like, yo, when we drop, listen to that. Let me know your real critique, because I know you one of the niggas that's gonna really give it up about us. You don't give it up about nobody else. Cause, you know, success and relationships but us, you tell the truth about. So I don't like getting that text, because then I got to be honest about the music. And I'm a huge Division fan, which means I'm going to already grade on a Curve. Like, if I'm a fan of you, I'm grading at a higher level than we normally grade. So Division put out a two pack.

[C]

Okay. I was playing one of the songs as a single book, but we don't.

[A]

Do sleepers on Fridays.

[C]

Oh, all right.

[A]

Division put out a two pack. Which one were you gonna play? Which one do you like the best? He asked me, so I'm asking you just for research for him. What is the single?

[B]

It's two songs.

[A]

You talk about the B side, so I'm gonna play excited, which to me was for the lovers. Like the niggas that when they about to fuck, turn on the apple music. It's a say yes sample flip. It's classic Division to me. If you're asking me classic. Actually, both of these songs to me are classic Division. And if it start like this, you know what time this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my. I can hear y'. All. I can hear you.

[D]

Four minutes in.

[C]

I'm starting to pull the hair right now.

[A]

Yeah. This is crazy. This is absolutely crazy. Shout out to Division. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. And it just sound like what Division fans have been waiting for from Division. Like, they backing they back. That's hook. Vers Hook. I want to even get to the end where they look. See, look. They care about us. They care about us.

[B]

Halftime. That ho.

[A]

They didn't cut it off. They didn't cut the song off. They care about us. They knew it was heat. Remove the drums. Give me the piano solo. Let me add some ad libs to this. Let's go, let's go. Let's go. Let's go, let's go. Oh, oh. Let's go. Brian Cox or somebody. Let's go cook. Let him cook. Yes. Yes. That's what we know Division to do. It's a minute left for this record. They wasn't just trying to rush out the studio. Go. He go. Oh, you can hear the hook about to come back. And he coming. Y' all know that hook is about to come out already. I'mma let him cook. It's 40 seconds left. You know what he trying to do here? Bring that hook back in. Bring that hook back in. Hey, come on, man. Oh, my Lord. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Hey, stop the games. Let's stop the games. Hey, While y' all talking about who ratting and who ain't is doing yeah. Is in the studio. That sounds crazy. That sounds crazy. So when I woke up at 5am and I listened. I hit him back. That and like a psycho, he was awake. Daniel Isaiah. Classic Division. Classic. Listen. Love on you. Let's go. Hey, let's go. Come on, man. Let's get these. The market research they looking for. You know what time it is right here? Come on, man. Come on, man. You know who this sounds like Division. This is so much better. I just. I'm just talking. Well, we got to talk over. This is so much better than whatever the was going on the last time we spoke to these brothers.

[D]

This is fire, Joe.

[A]

This is so much harder.

[C]

Both of them records is hard.

[A]

Hey, dog. Hey, get back in your. I love when go back and get in their bag.

[C]

Well, that sometimes. Sometimes you gotta get out your bag and realize. All right, that ain't worked.

[B]

Really?

[A]

They smoked this?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This has me really looking forward to a project. Daniel says that that project should be this year.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I'm excited about that. Shout out to Division and Division fans because we be sitting there waiting idly. We be waiting idly. These niggas don't give an update. Drop a mixtape, a cover. They don't do shit, these motherfuckers. But shout out to Division, man. Looking forward to that project. Both of these songs are absolutely. Hey, if you heat.

[C]

You cooking up heat like that, you can take your time.

[A]

Let's see, let's see, let's see. Let me go on my phone Let me go on my phone Let me go on my phone lma.

[B]

L Drop.

[A]

Listen, if you ain't going to say nothing about no rap, then I'm just going to R and B us out.

[B]

There's only two. I told you, the ones that dropped it out.

[A]

All right, so say less. Let me do this thing. Ella May pillow talk music we were missing Ella pillow talk music Pillow talking Ella May says tell her sweet. Goes a little something like this.

[C]

Freeze.

[D]

Where you been? Freeze all this out. Freeze. I'm on some new. I got a money you some.

[C]

She got a little bounce to it, too.

[A]

But if your words think she can call your phone. You better tell her you love me.

[C]

But no one above me say my.

[A]

Name, say my name Brand new LMA in your phone right now. That record is called Tell Her.

[B]

That sounds great.

[A]

That record is called Tell Her. Available in your phone and on dsps right now. Shout out to lma Absolutely mustard earlier this week had tweeted lma. That's the tweet. So I'm certain that her album Whenever it Comes, is going to be Heat. Lma we love you up here. Shout out to you. We can't wait to hear the project right there. I was tough on on to another that I am a huge fan of.

[B]

Oh, there was a lot.

[A]

I wish they would come up here at some point. If you R B head every week is a lot. You'll find some that's creeping out if you. These R and B ain't playing. Destin Conrad is back with a jazz album.

[B]

Oh, okay. Oh, wait. Isn't this with Terrence Martin? Didn't this already come out?

[A]

I don't know if Terrence Martin did this entire project. I know. I see him featured here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't know if he did the whole project.

[B]

Got you.

[A]

Maybe did. He's great.

[B]

He is.

[A]

Destin Conrad's debut album was all the Way Fire, but it was nothing jazzy on there. It was joints and bops and we dancing and it's more high energy. Up tempo records. He's back now with a real jazz album. Like instruments. I think that is unbelievable. It don't matter what you think of the album.

[C]

A Lonely detective.

[A]

A secret to tell.

[B]

This is fire.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Laying in it.

[A]

This is crazy. This is crazy. Wow.

[C]

His lips.

[A]

I think to even be bold enough to try. This is nuts.

[B]

This is crazy.

[A]

You see the album? Yeah, I built it. Yeah.

[B]

I ain't with y' all.

[C]

They cut through my shell Love Jones, too.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Don't know who you're making love to.

[C]

In part in my fridge But I.

[D]

Don'T give a ton the fool to.

[A]

A lonely detective.

[C]

I think I'm lone.

[B]

This is fire.

[C]

How many. How many joints on this?

[B]

11. Like, this is crazy.

[A]

No, that's what I'm saying. This is not like it sounds like jazz the whole album.

[B]

This is gonna be super ill for the ride into the birthday party tomorrow.

[A]

Like, he listen to this in the.

[B]

Backseat of Suburban on the way in the tux.

[A]

I'll play. Let me play the. I'm gonna play the Terrace Martin joint. Oh, wait. Hey, hey.

[B]

This is crazy.

[A]

All right, hold on. Hold up. This is the Terrace Martin joint, which I thought the Terrence Martin joint called Wash youh Away. This is track three off of Whimsy. Destin Conrad new jazz album in your phone right now back. This ain't nothing but another free laugh. I had a feeling without even knowing he that dude. Yo, I ain't going to lie. He's him. He's whoever he thinks he is.

[B]

That's tough. That's gonna sound so good with the tucks on with a nice Henny in the hand.

[A]

Shout out to Destin Conrad. Destin, I saw you tweet a million years ago. Should I do the Joe Button podcast? Let me answer you. Yes. Yes, you should. They might. Hey, them other platforms, they don't understand you like me, big dog. Pause if applicable. Pause if applicable. I got. I got about 10 slithers.

[B]

You got mad.

[A]

I got a bunch of slithers. Slide. One of you play with me in the street, especially when I'm pulled up. Pause. Yo, it's young. Sling. They made sound.

[C]

You're not a young, though.

[A]

It's true.

[D]

Yeah, Y N. Yeah, it's true.

[A]

It's true. You're not a Y N. You don't want me to know. I know I'm not out here trying to dye my beard for you out there that are trying to dye your beard.

[D]

I am.

[A]

When I go get a facial, me and Taj talk about y'. All.

[D]

So you. Not only you pillow talk, you.

[A]

Bar talking.

[D]

And what's wrong with you, bro?

[C]

Stop talk.

[D]

Stop talking about yo, Chef talk.

[A]

Who else you talk to about strippers? They get the memoir.

[C]

The strippers get the memoir.

[A]

Tosh was like, yo, your beard looks so gray. All of this gray coming in. I was like, do you know my barbers? Tell me.

[D]

He talking about his barbers.

[A]

Do you know my barbers? Tell me. So many of these men are getting the dye and the beign and just all of this stuff I like to just embrace age with. The goal is to get old. And she said, yeah, some of the guys, they come in here and they lay down, and when I do the.

[C]

Moisturizer, it bleeds all over to the.

[A]

Towel, and I can't wash it. I gotta throw the towel away. But I don't say nothing to them. But you're right. Joe.

[B]

Getting the facial with the Beijing is crazy.

[A]

I love that shit alone, child. These men, these men, these, these. These men out here, man, I don't care is. I don't care. I don't care. You know that already. All right, so listen, since we're on.

[D]

Music, I'm going to shout somebody out too.

[A]

There's an artist that is spelled WWW I D Y. I don't know what that is. Maybe it's witty, whitey, but that is how it comes up in iTunes. WWIDY, this song is called Let me. I think that it's Tory Lanez pulling a move.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

How it starts? Tell me it's Tory Lanez pulling a move too. Don't Nobody start a song like this with Tory Lanez.

[C]

Yo, this sound like.

[A]

This sound like chicks. This is none of y' all could do this at all. But one man.

[D]

Chill.

[A]

There's only one man that can do this.

[C]

That's chicks tape.

[A]

I know chicks tape when I hear chicks tape.

[C]

My.

[A]

Hey, Witty. Trying to fool somebody. Witty, this is none other than Tory Lane. I don't care what he said. That's Tory. It don't say Tori. It says Witty.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

We know who this is. There's only one man that can do this.

[D]

Hold on now.

[A]

That's him. Still.

[B]

This is old. Too old.

[A]

I never heard it. 2024. Okay, I never heard it.

[B]

Let me, let me. Yeah, 2024.

[D]

That's Tory.

[A]

Okay, I never heard it. Then.

[B]

I don't know for sure of his Tory.

[D]

But how you spell the person's name?

[B]

WWW or it could be someone bootlegging this or some.

[A]

That could happen. That's what it is.

[B]

That could be that.

[A]

If. If you're saying that this is old Tory, then. And somebody is boozing.

[B]

Actually.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause Tory, hold up.

[D]

This Joe just stumbling across.

[A]

Listen, I seen it. I understood the play. I was just trying to hype.

[D]

Trying to hype.

[A]

Tory.

[D]

He trying to change his identity.

[A]

Yeah, I seen the play. I'm like, tory fan. Yeah, we got Witty. All right, so listen, Park's cleared out up for me. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I never heard that. So music lovers rejoice. I still. If you never heard that, don't matter what it was. In. In. In artists that are not trying to create a new identity. I want to play a song by a young lady named Jaylen Josie.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

J, A, I. The little funny thing. The. The floating apostrophe. L, E, N, J, O, S, E, Y. I only know about this song because when I Woke up at 5am I saw Tricky Stewart saying, y', all, I've been working on something, y'. All. It's finally. It finally is out tonight.

[B]

Shout out to Tricky.

[A]

Tricky is one of the best minds in music.

[C]

To me, that means instant play.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. If Tricky said, yo, I've been working on something, and it's out tonight. Joe Button is hitting play. And this is what that sounded like. This is ridiculous to me. Yes, sir. Steps. Y' all know what's going to happen when that water stop doing that? Uhoh. This is crazy. This is absolutely nuts. Tricky.

[B]

This is hard. But yeah, Tricky's one of them people that if he puts something. I don't care who's on it?

[C]

I'm gonna go press Play immediately.

[B]

That's a lot of producers. Like, I almost go to the producer more than I go to the artist. Sometimes I go, you did the records.

[C]

I'm gonna go listen.

[B]

Artists by themselves, they might get some.

[A]

That was crazy.

[C]

Certain names on it. I'm going, plus play, I don't care.

[A]

Shout out to the young lady, Jaylin Shao the Tricky. You did it again. That record sounds incredible. That's all I have in new music and music.

[C]

I wanted to ask y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

I wanted to ask y' all something. Get your thoughts on this. You know, everybody. All the artists are trying to find a way to stay ahead of the streaming games and the jigs, you know, the. That the labels play versus, you know, trying to get paid, trying to get their streams up. So Glasses Malone put a. It's called the. It's called a maxi single. Digital maxi single, okay. Features him, Jurassic 5 and LA Giants. That's not really what's important. So it's. It's about a seven minute song, okay. It's called Wanted. But what he did was each track is a verse of the song.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

40 seconds.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

Perverse, perverse. So track one says wanted featuring glassing alone. 40 seconds. Track two says wanted featuring a kill dmc, et cetera, et cetera. And as you listen to it, you basically are running the entire. You know, you're running a. Listen to the whole song. You're running the album. Now.

[B]

That'S an interesting approach. I don't know if I would like to have my music in my library that way. Can you buy All Together as one?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, then I would then.

[C]

Well, all you said is one song. Yeah, it's just a project because again, people don't play. Listen all that. You press and play. It ain't like it stops and then you hearing one song, right? But you really listen to seven tracks.

[B]

It's interesting.

[C]

It's a way. It's a way to. Yeah, you got a cat and mouse game, yo, you gotta find a way to get around it.

[B]

I would not like you trend to.

[C]

Catch on if it's leading the getting paid or finding a way around this. To get paid. I'm for it. And it's still again, because it's so short. You don't know what you. You don't know. You listen to a bunch of different songs.

[B]

I completely agree with that. Just as a music collector, as someone who purchases music, I would be very annoyed if my itunes looked like.

[C]

Oh yeah. If it Looked like that part.

[A]

Yeah. Enough of you. Enough of you. Glad we love you. You my man.

[C]

That's my man.

[A]

That's right. Now you know I love him. But come on, do some that we can follow, man.

[D]

Hey, yo.

[A]

Every verse is the.

[C]

It's all it take is mad at that. I'm not mad. I love the idea because it take. All it take is one to do it. The next thing you know, other start trying to do it. If.

[A]

If.

[C]

If a Drake or somebody did that, we be sitting here champion three, change the game.

[B]

I don't know that I would.

[C]

Yo, three verses.

[A]

Not.

[C]

Maybe not us, but would be behind it. Saying three verses count as one song. You might not have to do seven.

[A]

That's a lot.

[C]

Seven is a lot.

[A]

That is a lie.

[C]

But three and then another three, and.

[A]

Then I hope it works out.

[C]

And the other part I like about that is sometimes we got our favorite verse of the song.

[A]

Oh, here you go. Here you go.

[C]

What?

[A]

Mister, Take him off.

[C]

I ain't gotta take nobody. I ain't gotta take them off. I could go right to the verse. I like track three. That's verse three of the record. That's the one I like.

[A]

What do you have to say to the. To the Ice Hive out there that was missing. Missing you while you were gone, saying, yo, I ain't gonna lie. They doing good, but I need my freeze there. And that was being said. I'm not trying to be funny.

[C]

I wish. I miss y' all as well. Like I told y', all just walking in the door. Walking in the door downstairs felt good.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. No, it's true. When you take off for a little bit and you come back, it does feel good, bro.

[C]

I felt good pulling into my parking spot. Like, I was just like, damn, it feels good to be here.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, yo, real quick. I was on Instagram, and I do want to shout out music Party. That record, he got better than me. I like the content that he's doing behind it. He's doing, like, content pieces.

[A]

Are you talking about Partisan or Party Next Door?

[D]

Partisan. Fontaine Got it. So thank you very much, Joe. I think that it's very creative, me as a person that do videos, and I think it's just a creative way to promote a record. You know what I mean? So I want to shout him out for that. That really stuck out to me, and I went to go purchase a record or whatever the fuck I did.

[A]

Shout out to Partisan Fontaine. Funny. Yeah. He's a good guy. Decent man. Real good guy. He's A decent man from the city of demons Be scheming, be shooting senseless violence for so many reasons. Financial reasons. Look what you remember, stupid. I slapped you to be real. Shouldn't love this city But I love this city. Whoa.

[D]

How many times you listen? Find that I have it.

[A]

I don't have to find it. And he got a new slap out, a new girl song.

[C]

Speaking of new, did y' all see.

[A]

Wait, slow down, slow down. We gotta focus on it. Okay?

[C]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[A]

Because there's too many that laugh when I. Because when I'm home Because when I'm home I don't be knowing who See what y' all know about my man? That's my man.

[D]

I know about that.

[A]

I watch all his.

[D]

He walking the street.

[A]

I don't give a listen to y' all that don't know there's a guy on Instagram who is a musician, okay? If there was ever somebody who shouldn't be a musician, it's that nigga. It's him. But he don't say that. No, I'm serious. He don't dress like a musician. He don't have the mannerisms, the movements, the voice.

[C]

Slaps.

[A]

Nigga, he don't have nothing that says. And he does videos to the same slap, which is his big single. Is a decent man. Okay, so he just keep walking around.

[C]

Performing the same song.

[A]

Yeah, rapping. I gotta find it now. Here we go. My man from the city of demons Niggas be scheming, be shooting senseless violence have so many reasons Mental health reasons, financial reasons. Keep it real. Shouldn't love this city But I love this city. Whoa.

[D]

Y' all need a hug?

[A]

No.

[D]

Look at everybody in the street.

[C]

No, that's his song.

[A]

He wrote that song. He shoots the videos. He be the be in there commenting. Yeah. Like, it be thousands of comments. So he done got so much. He done. He's so on fire now. It's girls in the video. Wait, I gotta find this girl song. Do I have the girl song?

[B]

Okay, yes.

[A]

Yeah. Let me just go to his face.

[D]

He got girls in it now. He just started off walking regular in the Bronx somewhere, and then now after he glue up, it's my man. Watch your laugh. Watch your laugh.

[C]

Rip, pop, smoke. So blessed to see the.

[D]

Oh, but when I see the news.

[C]

Upper west side, a preschooler face.

[D]

Look at him.

[A]

Let's go cow. This my man. Yo, somebody says I'm bad about Cal. I'm knocking him out. Somebody says I'm bad about knocking him out.

[C]

I got Hijacked the show for a second. Did you ask my girl to go in my bag and give you my charger?

[D]

Oh, of course I did.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What did he just do? Wait, what did you do? Borrow Ice Charger.

[C]

I'm Ice. I didn't know this.

[A]

These old don't give a old. You can't say that to Missing Peace on her birthday.

[C]

Say what?

[A]

Yo, go get that bag and get that charger now. Look how.

[D]

Look how you dragging it. I got to go.

[C]

See, I walked up to the young lady and said, yo, can I get ISIS Charger, please?

[A]

No, but you can't do that. Cuz we want to say things to your wife. Wife?

[C]

Okay, you can't do that.

[A]

You can't talk to nobody's wife.

[C]

Why?

[A]

Cuz we want to talk to your wife.

[D]

Don't talk to.

[A]

I'm a decent man from the city of demons. Be scheming, be shooting since there's violence for so many reasons Mental health reasons, financial reasons.

[D]

Titty.

[A]

Whoa, bro, that's just it, right? I thought I was just me, right?

[D]

Yeah, he killed that.

[A]

We can get this.

[C]

We can get this money.

[D]

They hating on Kyle. Hey, watch your phone.

[B]

Take his swag.

[A]

Y' all can't.

[C]

No, not that.

[D]

Slide you for cow.

[A]

Y' all can't do that. Y' all can't with Kyle.

[D]

That again, boy.

[A]

Y' all can't with Kyle at all.

[B]

You have to make take this.

[D]

I can back flip at 49.

[A]

I hope he don't try to backflip.

[C]

No, we not letting do that, bro.

[D]

That's my man. I stand with him. I don't give a.

[A]

He lie.

[C]

He not going to be able to stand. If he do the backflip, it's over.

[D]

I think he met on a trampoline, man.

[A]

What y' all talking about? I'm a decent man from the city of demons. Mental health reasons, financial reasons to be real shouldn't love this city, but I love this city. Whoa. And when he do the whoa. He got a little dance, he go, whoa. All right, they're not feeling me anyway. Moving on. Listen, I don't want to leave music yet. I don't want to leave music yet. I'm not leaving music yet. I'm not leaving music yet.

[C]

I thought some.

[A]

This stuff is on your Android too. If you open it. Listen, Kani Folded is clearly R and B song of the summer. Yeah, who wants to argue with me? I'll argue it.

[D]

I don't know the song you're talking about.

[A]

You don't know the song I'm talking about?

[C]

No, you might not know.

[A]

It's that you pick up your clothes. I have them folded. You never heard a song? Song?

[B]

I like the. She did on Leon's album, too.

[A]

Hold up.

[D]

You know this way.

[A]

Talking about box, But I'm talking about this song.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

I'm talking about this song. This is the best R B song released this summer. It is most popular one. I ain't even talking about numbers or metrics.

[C]

No, no, I'm not talking.

[A]

I'm just talking about the R B world standing up, saying in the writing world. Call. Come on. I played this as a sleeper when it first dropped, but what it's done since then.

[C]

So you broke this.

[D]

You know this.

[A]

This song is hard. Kehlani's on a tear right now. She is. But the chorus is really resonating with the writer and the singers. Is the. Is why I brought this up. This is not a new song, so I didn't bring this up to put y' all on or something. This song came out maybe a couple of months ago, a month and a half ago, something like that. Look at that. The hook rock real quick. Oh, that's crazy.

[C]

That was so nice of her.

[A]

Nah, for real. That was nice. But that concept has really taken off. Like, the money, long hours and hours. The concept is what's taking off the song is incredible. But that concept is out of here. So I'm highlighting this because this song needs a posse remix if I've ever heard one. Kehlani need to find whoever she pick in terms of R B. People that get busy. Yeah. And this needs three or four other women on this. Or men. And I'm saying that because Mario, friend of the show, came up here. Stop playing with him. Stop playing. Mario, let me know. We need an official remix immediately. Kehlani, please. Here you go. Get the men's side of things. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yo, put this on iTunes, Mario. Not YouTube. Hey, I need this. I need the CDQ of this, Mario. Oh, here we go. That's a chorus if I ever heard one. That is absolutely sick. And, yo, man, you're not on the main. Yo, like, you're saying everything I'm about to say. Like, you're not on. I'm about to say that you won't let me because you're not on the main.

[C]

He was looking at your phone anyway in the cut.

[A]

You ain't do the challenge. Oh, and Mad folded your clothes up. Mad folded your. But by the Foyer. What? White call it the vestibule.

[D]

But I love this city.

[A]

That.

[D]

Yo, when they kick him out, he like anybody.

[A]

Like mother.

[D]

I love this city.

[A]

Whoa, hey, Amani. They folded the money up in the vestibule. White ain't playing with him.

[D]

Don't start your.

[A]

Nah, I have it right here, Moni. The challenge that ensued, also from this song, Evil Body. And I don't even care if the label came up with this one. This is just brilliant. People that are extremely gifted vocally, just doing the. It's just singers.

[C]

Don't shake your head. If you ain't gonna do the challenge.

[A]

He gonna do it. It's just one of those songs for singers to have. Let me keep going. It's mad at these. They having a blast online with it. This is one of my favorite music channels challenges not birthed by Tank in a long time. Huh? Let me tell you, the first person was Josh Levy. This is Bray's Anatomy. It's up and coming people. Not people that I know.

[D]

Look.

[A]

This thing is just having a slice.

[C]

Your man needs to glue it. Next. I love this city.

[A]

Yo, yo, you talking about c. Yo.

[D]

Watch your mouth, big dog.

[C]

My boss.

[A]

Oh, look at this girl. Oh, no, no, no. This girl went crazy. She ate down. Hold up. She said, come pick up your clothes.

[C]

She okay, baby.

[A]

Y' all keep playing with them effort.

[C]

Y' all singers.

[A]

That ain't fair. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[C]

I see why you won't do it.

[A]

To be real, shouldn't love Imani, but a lovely. Oh, honey. Now, E. Yo, this right here, she said, I'm just playing it again. This is beautiful.

[C]

That's cheating.

[A]

Imagine being able y. Imagine being able to do this with your voice. Word.

[C]

Just on the.

[A]

If I could do this. I don't know how many baby mamas. If I could.

[C]

Could do this.

[A]

See, this is just different things.

[C]

Just play these for the rest of the bot.

[D]

I'm good.

[A]

Yo, People are really talented out here. We don't know none of these people.

[C]

I wouldn't know you.

[A]

Hold on. Where my little. Where my little Asian girl at? Where my Asian girl at?

[C]

Oh.

[A]

N. It's a little Asian girl that was getting busy. Where am I? Where you at? Here she go. Look at little Sang L. Let's go sing. Let's go. Ching Ma. Let's go. She killing this.

[C]

I won't give her some heart.

[A]

That's why your number's in the thousands, dog.

[C]

If I can sing like that, my.

[A]

That's why your number's like that.

[C]

If I can sing like that for him.

[A]

Yeah, we love you. Crazy then, right? Your numbers are. You got to stop by the truck stops. The Lock Lizards. Truck stops.

[D]

He at all the Lock Who?

[A]

The Lot Lizards.

[C]

What's that? No, not no.

[A]

What's Lot Lizards.

[C]

You be the Lot Lizards. I don't even know what that is.

[A]

I know buddy Scally.

[C]

The Scally wags that hang around the truck stop.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Order in the court. Order in the pot. Order in the pod. Water in the pod.

[D]

No, we talked about lot lizards up here.

[A]

We talked about yo. Ish is my family person now. He don't know, though.

[C]

I've never.

[D]

He's just too serious.

[C]

That's some new.

[A]

I heard Lot Lizard that be by the H Vac He. Anyway, let's get this quick.

[D]

Let's get this quick.

[A]

He by the sewer to buy the dumpster.

[D]

Dumpster?

[A]

That's that ish T shirt. He ain't even hiding. It's me.

[C]

Doing that.

[A]

All right, before we go, Makonin is working. Yeah.

[B]

What's he doing, man? He got some new heat.

[A]

He's cooking.

[C]

Oh, he cooking?

[A]

No, he's retired. Makone has retired the name. I love Makonin. He's retired. That so he can go on about his business without people having to say, Makonin is a chef. Oh, this is him. He's a guest chef in a restaurant. He's showing us the line. It's packed. He's in the kitchen. Oh.

[D]

You know what I'm saying. If you need me to come guest.

[C]

Chef at your spot.

[A]

That's what he's saying.

[B]

It's a hell of a sales pitch.

[A]

Get the up. Go ahead, Makoni.

[C]

Smash Burger's going off tonight.

[A]

Smash Burger? You a Smash burger?

[C]

Can't call a Smash burger burger, Joe. So if y' all need me to pull up, we know where t your establishment. You need a guest cook.

[A]

Come through. All right. That audio is a little bad. Sorry if it hurt you out there. But what he's saying is if you need a guest chef to come cook, he's available to do so. If you tag your establishment, he'll see it.

[D]

Stop.

[A]

Yo, you're good. He can't breathe.

[C]

He was trying to hold it together, too, because of.

[A]

Are you good?

[D]

What? Establishments that they t Tell me they tag.

[A]

All right, man. Be shooting senseless violence for so many reasons. Mental health reasons, financial reasons. To be real. Shouldn't love this city, but I love this city. Whoa. I don't know why Flip is laughing.

[D]

I thought they Tagged like fast food restaurants like KFC, McDonald's.

[A]

I want to. I want to applaud.

[D]

That's what I thought they did in the comments. I think they did that.

[A]

I want to applaud Makonin.

[D]

I do too.

[A]

For an official retirement, which we don't see people normally do. Right. And finding something that he's passionate about that he can be productive in, which is cooking. Shout out to all the chefs out there. Anybody that's working in kitchens, restaurants, personal chefs. Shout out to all of y'. All.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

I think that is extremely awesome for Makonin. So this is great news. Makonin looks like he's lost a lot of weight. He looks happy. He sounds happy. So shout out to Makonnen for that. That's awesome. Now let's put all that positive bullshit to the side for two seconds. Makonan was also talking shit about me a few years ago.

[B]

Clever bet.

[A]

Oh, man. That's the part that sucks. I'm not a decent man from the city of demons. I'm the demon himself.

[C]

Whoa, whoa.

[A]

Makon was. I ain't listen. I'm not about to kick somebody while they in the kitchen. But what I'm saying is. But this is a valuable lesson to be learned from Makona. While he was kicking my back and and audience, he was calling me all types of losers, bums, dead beats and one hit wonders. And I never said nothing back. You know, cuz gay. But you're him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which he got more slippage than me, so I couldn't say nothing back. Got it. But now that he's cooking and happy about it, I will let him and the rest of you know. So there's always been levels to one hit wonders. That's true. I think that he thought that we were kinfolk because we both had one song that was particularly up that was a lot bigger than the rest of our songs. Now that he's cooking sausages and shit, I want to let him know, you shouldn't have did that. We were never the same just because we both. That was in poor taste. It was in bad judgment. And I can't say too much more on it because I'm doing great in life and God is good. So you can't kick people while they in the kitchen. But hopefully you'll know in the future to just shut the fuck up. When you talk about certain people. People. That's it. I'm not going crazy. He's happy. I'm happy.

[C]

That was. That was mature.

[D]

That was very mature.

[A]

I ain't going to kill him. Chalk another one up that talk and bit the dust and I'm happy. That's it. We're going in. Good luck. I might book you. Actually. Actually, I got a kitchen, you know. Hey, get your ass over here, man. Some salmon Croats or something. Makone probably make a good Croat.

[C]

That's up right after we get.

[A]

I would love nothing more than to be working with my friends doing something. I love getting paid and look to the left and see Makonin in there like it's parts giving.

[B]

And we record on Tuesdays.

[A]

Oh, that was a good one. Oh, ish. Makon's song was on a Tuesday and ours would be. I love getting grub on a Tuesday.

[D]

I love getting grub on a Tuesday.

[A]

Oh, we ain't get your ass in here and make something that you know how to make. Go make some fried chicken or something. Some Samoan chicken. What's he.

[D]

He come in and cook good, nigga. We gotta respect him.

[A]

Hey, if he cooked good, he got a gig. And that's God having a funny sense of humor that you didn't hide the. That was dissing you for being a one hit wonder. That was also a one hit wonder. But now it's cooking for you. For me? Yo, I'm on a diet too. I hired a fire him. I ain't eating that. Get the fuck out. Oh, all right.

[C]

I said more butter, bitch.

[A]

Yo, I'll make that nigga come. Yo, that's funny. Yo, who just got booked recently. I'll make him come cook for like 300 niggas. And it just. Just end up being me just. Just watching.

[C]

You know what?

[A]

Look at you.

[C]

I don't even look at you, stupid.

[A]

You know what? I ain't even hungry anymore.

[C]

I don't even feel like it now.

[A]

How you doing?

[C]

I lost my appetite.

[A]

Hey, you and all that.

[C]

Get the out and you got to clean up.

[D]

Speak, speak, speak, speaking. Did we talk about the Cracker Barrel? Speaking of food, how when they. They had to go back and change put their logo back to the original.

[B]

Logo quicker in the power theme song. Man, they went right back.

[D]

What were people mad about?

[B]

Man, I still don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Get the old white man by the barrel.

[B]

They really passionately about that old white man. Apparently.

[D]

It's crazy.

[A]

They.

[C]

They putting back a whole bunch of other old white men back up.

[A]

Now that we are caffeinated, it is time to stay awake, not woke. And today we're discussing Cracker Barrel.

[C]

Cracker Barrel has lost nearly $100 million in market value after their recent logo change.

[A]

Logo got rid of the man.

[C]

Uncle Herschel.

[A]

And even though Cracker Barrel said he.

[C]

Will still be front and center on.

[A]

The menu, some have called this rebrand woke. And conservative commentator Matt Walsh said it was generic.

[C]

For more, let's bring in Dr. Gina. Terrence.

[A]

Fuck you. And Dr. Gina.

[B]

And Herschel.

[A]

And Herschel.

[C]

And other.

[B]

Herschel.

[A]

Him too. I do believe the day lost a lot of money. I do believe that.

[B]

$100 million.

[A]

That fast.

[B]

Come on, fam.

[C]

From who?

[B]

From a logo switch.

[A]

You. You in Virginia.

[C]

The places where the Cracker Barrel are.

[B]

Ain'T no one to really.

[C]

No, they not going to not go there because the L's gone. Where else you going to go?

[D]

Yeah, the AI video of him getting.

[A]

Up out the chair she in Trump hand.

[D]

I said.

[A]

Trump saying welcome back.

[D]

I. Oh.

[C]

My. Yo, we left music. Did. Did y' all see KH try to sneak back out?

[A]

He was.

[D]

He'd been in Brooklyn.

[A]

Yo, Dre, I ain't gonna lie. Drake. Drake. Drake. Drake. Yeah, that was great.

[B]

Wait, what Drake gotta do with it?

[A]

Because. Because remember, Callie started promoting his first single featuring Drake.

[D]

Bell.

[A]

It must. Must be Drake Bell. And then Cali went silent for the next few months, and now he's a reggae record with three records. Records. Not just. He put out a record with the reggae one, then he put out a record with Post Malone. NBA.

[C]

YoungBoy, that was fire.

[D]

I like that one.

[A]

All of that is very different from.

[B]

Drake a little bit.

[D]

Did you get a Post Malone one?

[A]

You heard it? I'm not listening to nothing that Khaled does unless it's an R B record. Come on, Joe, I'm telling you something.

[C]

Did you listen to the reggae one?

[A]

I did.

[C]

You didn't like it?

[D]

I liked it. I mean, some fit better than others, but I liked it, you know, bringing. I get the overall message. Bring it all down together. It's dope.

[C]

It was just interesting to see because Khaled is Mr. Rollout. Mr. A. Lot of noise around him dropping something. This popped up out of nowhere.

[D]

Well, because the Caribbean Music Awards, he was there yesterday.

[C]

I'm saying, even the other records, the Young boy and Post Malone record, like, those are two pretty big acts. No noise around it.

[B]

Salute.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Drake Bell.

[C]

That's funny.

[D]

He put that in the comments.

[A]

Cali, go to Drake house. Yo, if it's one that need to go to Drake house, it's Khaled. Go ahead, yo, buy Drake a house in Atlanta or Miami. You Got to do something. Whatever. This rollout was different from. Yo, I got Drake. We make a noise. Another one. The sample got cleared. It's in my Drake.

[C]

Man.

[A]

All of that. All of that is very different from whatever the. Is going on right now.

[B]

Maybe it's he.

[A]

You might got. You might gotta do like. What was that? Oh, the fire fest doc when. When they needed the water.

[C]

Yo, yo, yo, might not go get the water out. Go get the water fast.

[A]

Money had to go get the water.

[C]

My man was.

[A]

He got the water. He got the job was to get the water. How you got the water.

[C]

That was up to.

[B]

Different job.

[C]

Not whatever you.

[A]

Yo, you going to have to throw something on. Yo, you going to have to run over there.

[C]

Go get that water.

[B]

I mean, pulled up.

[A]

Hey. Oh, my God. Yo, hold up. Shout out to Khaled, man. Let me see what else? What else? What else is here? Ish. Go ahead. ISO on you for. For Micah. Man, that's not my business. That's not my business.

[C]

Yeah, let's hear it, man.

[A]

Actually, I could start if you need time to think. Nah, I'll flame Jerry Jones ass up. There's nothing to be done but to flame Jerry Jones up.

[C]

Okay. It was just funny.

[A]

Let me give you a take. That's my take. I don't want. I'm not putting words in your mouth.

[C]

All of the Cowboy fans I pretty much spoke to said they understand. Oh, yeah, for the most part. Like, you. You don't want to part with somebody that. That talented.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, he's probably the best pass rusher in the NFL.

[B]

He's up there.

[C]

Top three. Yeah, he's all right.

[B]

And he still got a lot of upside.

[C]

Yo, he's still 25, 26, something like that. So $50 million is a lot of money from a business perspective. And that's what they're doing.

[A]

They running the business. Business.

[C]

This is. This is very different than what all the Cowboy fans were saying.

[A]

I want to reply to that, because, yes, this is a business talk that we're having, but I think some. They did the math on the tax difference and him getting 47 million in Green Bay versus 4. 40. 40 million in Dallas.

[C]

Tax difference for him.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which only came up to him making $900,000 more. I'm not gonna say that he made this move because he wanted to make 900,000 extra dollars. So, yes, this is business. I think that. I think that this has more to do with. Not to make it racy, but you can't talk to me like this. You can't treat me like this. You can't go about the business the way that you going about it, which some people say appear to be real slave master to slave. That's what people are saying. They won't say it on espn. They won't say it on. Well, what do you think it is when I'm ignoring your agent? What if you had an agent and I was trying to get this. This podcast. Wait, what?

[C]

I'm listening to you speak. I want you to speak first.

[A]

I'm saying, what do you think it is when you're not letting your star player do business the way that that business is supposed to be done in here? You holding him to some handshake agreement that y' all made in a room. And you privileged enough to be vocal about that. You vocal enough to say we are defying whatever the players association rules are. Him and I had a deal. I'm not even talking to his agent. His agent don't matter. It's me and him that matters. The report yesterday was Mike and them came back with some empathy, trying to get it done. And Jerry said, play in the fifth year or leaf, and he left. But how he's going, how he went about handling the business with the star player and arguably face of his team was real.

[C]

So I'm confused, though, because you saying. You saying, like, he. I hate it. Making 900 more. He didn't choose that. He got traded. It's not like.

[B]

Because he wasn't gonna stay for.

[A]

Yeah, but.

[C]

But it ain't like I'm saying he.

[A]

Wasn'T staying regardless of what. But because of how you're treating me, how you're talking to me, and how you're going about doing this business. I got one of the best agents in football. That's what they saying.

[C]

Okay, cool. And sometimes these agents be carrying they dick on their shoulders, but you have.

[A]

To speak to them, all right?

[C]

And you. And you making it racy. Like Dak, not black. Like C, like cd, not black.

[A]

See, I don't like that. You could have treated.

[C]

Let me finish.

[A]

But that's a horrible example.

[C]

You could have treated two black people.

[A]

Well, that don't mean that I'm not that.

[C]

Let me. Again. Let me finish. When you start talking about Michael Irvin, when you start talking about all of these people, all of these people say Jerry Jones pays. That is the rumor around the NFL that Jerry Jones pays. Whether it's Marion Barber, where it's mad niggas that people thought didn't deserve the money, that they Got Jerry Jones paid.

[A]

So then I can't get an honest assessment from them.

[C]

No, that is what makes it disappointment.

[A]

Because all those people are saying is, Jerry paid me. Now there's some of those people that are saying, yo, when it was time for my contract, Jerry told me to work out my final year. He needed to see more. And when I showed him more, he paid me. I don't think we ever gonna hear a negative word from anybody that Jerry Jones paid cool.

[C]

So why is it always if it did? So if you have 10 things that worked out and the one that don't work out now, you gotta make it racy.

[A]

If it's racy, yeah, but who. If it's racist?

[C]

Who determines if his. His motivation or all of that stuff have racial undertones?

[A]

Well, anything that he does has racial undertones because his history, it's not me putting that cool.

[C]

Gotcha.

[A]

And then those racial undertones exist even further because of where they are and how that operates. So I'm not putting that there.

[C]

So the racial shit went away when he paid all these other black people. It sounds. No want to sit up here, act like I'm caping for this person. It's just like, yo, this dog. That shit is irresponsible, and I think it's whack. They didn't get the business done that they were supposed to get done. But you can't negate all of these other people that got business done with him.

[A]

Oh, I can, because they're not in the conversation of people you didn't get business done with. I only need to hear how you treated and went about the business with people that you didn't get it done with. But see, everybody, and listening to Micah, everybody with eyes know that this is not a talent thing. If you asking how it got the race. Everybody knows it's not a talent. Talent thing.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Because, yeah, he's one of the best, right? We also know that he want to stay there. He's documented for years until he wasn't.

[C]

Until he got on public tv. And that's what. That's the report that you're not reporting.

[A]

But that's after. That's after you treated me a certain way. Because even when my contract was up in the air, he is on interviews saying, don't say nothing bad about Jerry. I'm a cowboy for life now. Whether you want to believe that or not.

[C]

We. We. That be the game, too. We talking about, like, I don't want to go nowhere. I'm standing here. I want to retire here. Yeah. All that happen a bunch of times. He publicly got out when he didn't get his way and said. And I'm not shooting at him because I don't know all of the things.

[A]

You wouldn't talk to my agent.

[C]

Let me talk, please.

[A]

But answer that part.

[C]

I can't. I'm not Jerry. I can't say why he didn't talk to his agent. What I can say is.

[A]

But that's the wrong part. I'm not asking you to answer why he didn't do it. I'm saying, what do you think? Think about him. Jettison all of that.

[C]

Whatever their tactics are in negotiations. Everybody has their way that they negotiate one's.

[A]

One's tactics are illegal. You cannot bypass someone's agent.

[C]

I don't know nothing about that.

[A]

All right, if you're gonna say that, then we can't have the debate.

[C]

I'm telling you, I don't know. I can't speak to something I don't know about. I don't know about the legality of the NFL Players Association. What I can say is that I've been a Dallas. Dallas Cowboy fan for 40 years. And what I can say is that Jerry Jones pays. Come up disgruntled. They always come. Everybody said, this is par for the course when it was par for the course for the Dallas Cowboys. They're like, yo, we know Jerry gonna pay him. This is what they do. You get all the coverage. Then he pays them, dog.

[A]

That part is par for the course. We don't have a disagreement there.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

People holding out and getting paid is.

[C]

Par for the course. We're not even just holding out.

[A]

We talking about the fashion in which he went about not paying Micah. We're not talking about even the decision to not pay him because you may be looking for a rebuild.

[C]

We talk about how you did it again.

[B]

Micah's agent, David Mulgett, is. He's tough. You got desean, the big deal.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He's got Jalen Ramsey. He's got. He's got a bunch of people played hardball.

[C]

Whether you like the way the agent.

[A]

Does things or not. To do business with the agent on a very. On a very bare, bare minimum level here. That's wrong. Let's say Ray's Abbott. That's wrong. We can't never get a deal done. If ice. If you. If me and you in an office and we come up with something still, when you leave, you're. And you go talk to your people. It's your people that call me to get it. Done. If I'm refusing to do that, that it should be addressed. And it hasn't been addressed. I'm looking to see what the NFL does about Jerry Jones very publicly being open about his. His agent. You can't say that. Sorry. Sorry. I get it. You got all the money. You're from Dallas, team, wealthiest team, yada yada. You can't do that nowhere.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see. I like Michael getting the out of here.

[B]

Green Bay is stacked.

[A]

You. You. You can't talk to me like that. I'm out. This ain't about the money. You can't treat me like that. You got to talk to my agent. This is how my business is set up. I'm not an expert in these matters. I've hired one. Talk to him. Go talk to him.

[C]

Who the do you think you are? No, but you also can't make a deal if you have representation. He didn't want to be there, bro. He didn't want to be there. Every Joe's going by. Joe, everybody.

[A]

What's the Joe? Shit.

[C]

Every reporter basically broke it down and said at the end of the deal, the negotiations went sour and he didn't want to be there no more.

[A]

Why, regardless?

[C]

I don't know why, neither do you.

[A]

That's not true.

[C]

We don't know why.

[A]

Ish. I've done the research on this. So when you saying I don't know why, that's a lie. All reports everywhere from Jerry Jones. He did an interview himself.

[C]

He said because he wouldn't talk to the agent. Agent.

[A]

Me and Michael agreed on something in a room, okay? That's what should have taken place. He don't have the right to leave there, get his agent involved, because the agent don't matter. The two people that matter are him and me. He don't have the right for that thinking. I don't give a fuck who is okay.

[C]

That's like. That's like if I got an attorney or something. Now you go talk to me.

[A]

Which part am I saying it's not true?

[C]

If I have real legal representation. You got enough truth. What Joe just said is something totally different. Me and Joe discussing our contract over dinner, and we say, y', all, all right, cool. This is what we gonna do. You can't now say that. Yo, this agreement right here that we made. Fuck what you ate. Yes, you can. You can say, yo, me and him agreed to these things.

[A]

Your agent works for you.

[C]

So if I'm. If I agree to this, I gotta. Yo, this is what I want.

[A]

What you're saying is not exactly.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Exactly what?

[C]

Your agent works for you. My agent works for you. My agent works for me.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So if I agree that I'm gonna work for parks for $10, I can't now. That's what matters to Parks.

[A]

Oh, y' all are high okay or dumb okay? It's more. Y' all are high or dumb okay. What are y' all saying?

[B]

You don't think that negotiate for a little bit more.

[C]

It's possible.

[A]

Or. Or negotiate every other detail in the con. If me and you go to dinner and you agree on the money in a year.

[B]

Years.

[A]

This has to go back to your. What do y' all say? Don't even use the airwaves to spread something like that.

[C]

Nobody's saying that.

[A]

No matter what you came up with with me, this goes back to your agent. That's not a Joe making it up. Fuck Jerry Jones.

[C]

That part is true.

[B]

I think the packers are gonna be a better team than the Cowboys for sure.

[A]

Well, that was happening before this trade. That was happening before this trade.

[B]

That's probably.

[A]

That's probably parties true though. So good luck to all parties involved.

[B]

Because the two first round picks are going to be low picks too. Like, it's not a good. Yeah, that's not a good trade.

[A]

Late 20s. Yeah, it's gonna be good. Listen, shout out to all parties involved. Man, I don't have anything else that is super important to me. I do want to talk about Southwest saying that you big need to buy two seats. But I'll save that. I'll save that for Patreon. That's not a matter. That's not a matter of importance right this very second. Anybody else have anything that's pertinent pressing on their heart, mind, body, soul or spirit? No.

[D]

That scared me just now. I'm about to. I'm about to go research this.

[A]

You're too passionate about some football players.

[C]

I thought it was a Southwest thing.

[D]

No, a lot of. Oh, because of me.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

It wasn't that.

[D]

First class.

[C]

I double up.

[A]

Watch your mouth now.

[D]

Don't give me pound. Don't give me pound. Don't try to do. Don't try to agree with him. All right, give me pound.

[C]

Keep your hands over.

[D]

Yeah. What's up with you? You defended Jerry Jones. You mad at me?

[C]

I'm not defending Jerry Jones. I'm saying that what you did it.

[D]

Seem like you defended. You got. I'm not arguing with you, bro.

[C]

I know, cuz.

[D]

You made me Want to research it to see why you so passionate. It's not a disrespect. I want to know why you so passionate. Maybe football players are like that. I just see niggas beat niggas up in the stands. I don't. I never see somebody so passionate.

[C]

So look, I'm reading up real quick. The NFL PA contracts are invalid if negotiated via uncertified agents. You can't circumvent an agent. Circumvent must go through certified agents.

[D]

Got it?

[C]

Yeah. I don't. It's right here in the NFL.

[A]

In the plainest of black and white.

[C]

Jones stated that he and Parsons have reached a verbal agreement on a contract. But Mula Guetta then blocked the deal from being sent to the agent for. For negotiations. All right, so if it wasn't the agent.

[A]

So he didn't block anyway.

[D]

He probably rejected.

[C]

He could have potentially rejected the deal that we agreed upon.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, cool.

[D]

Rejected the deal.

[A]

Yeah, I got it.

[C]

He advises, this is a bad deal you about to sign. No, don't take.

[A]

Guess what, you still have to talk.

[C]

Now you got to talk, player. You have to.

[A]

Sorry. That's not Joe making this up. That's not from Joe Brain at all. I'm a Giant fan, unfortunately. We did it.

[B]

We did.

[D]

We did it.

[A]

Classic. We did it. Should have been triple.

[D]

Can we get. We getting 11 o', clock, 12 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[D]

Watch your mouth. Like we like we didn't put on today.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You a call your man out and say yo, 12.

[C]

Yo, you missed the first.

[D]

You a call your man. You ain't call your man ever. Out the room and say yo, 12 o'.

[A]

Clock.

[D]

You ain't do that. I snuffed you now I'm telling you.

[A]

It's giving midnight. It's giving midnight. It's giving midnight. Shout out to Mike, man, rest in peace. Shout out to all the Jacksons. Music. Hey, listen, man, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there, each and every one of us. Until next time we bid you a do farewell. Adiosa riva di ost la vista ARV or so long goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have until next time. Last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure and stagnant. Women want to travel in the closed minded Women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Listen, man, tomorrow night or tonight Actually, we got Goldfinger on the ones and twos. We got Top Boogie on the ones and twos. We got niggas outside in suits and tuxedos. We got our lady friends. We got our significant others outside. We got happy hour with hors d' oeuvres being served. Happy hour on top of shit it shouldn't be on top of. Come on, now. We got four skills going on. We got good weather and Ferraris parked out front, man. We have a real good time. Real good time. Come on. Come on. Psych. Gotta take me a nap tomorrow. Gotta take me a nap. So this go the way it's supposed to go. I'mma show a few of y' all the way to go tonight, man. Y' all hold it down. Listen, what everybody we can look like. What everybody we can look like. Come on. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me. Talk to me.

[C]

Talk to me.

[A]

I know what Saturday looks like. I don't know what tonight looks like. I don't know what Sunday looks like.

[C]

Tonight we. Me and my baby going to be birds.

[B]

Hit me up.

[A]

Missing Peace. We stepping tomorrow, man. It's Virgo season. I know you love your man and all that, but what is he again? What's your sign? What's his sign again?

[C]

Dollar sign.

[A]

No, no. You dollar sign tomorrow. That's right. When it's Virgo season, you dollar sign. That's it. My girl's still trying to get me to pay for her. No, it's my birthday. I'm joking, baby. I love you. Y' all hold it down, man. We gonna have a real good time tonight. We gonna celebrate life tonight. Hopefully y' all are doing the same. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[D]

Wait a minute.

[A]

Happy birthday, Joe.

[D]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Joe. We love you, bro.

[A]

Thank y', all, man.

[C]

It's all here.

[A]

So we ain't gonna do.

[C]

We ain't gonna get no ass ass cake tonight.

[A]

It's cool. Listen. Oh, my girl. My girl is on the cake. My girl is on the cake. What you mean she's on the cake? Every year she gonna make sure that it's a cake there, and then it's a whole big fuss to do. She done hit my mom.

[C]

I'm talking about. We didn't celebrate you here.

[A]

Oh, here.

[C]

It's just here.

[A]

Well, Mel's not here.

[C]

That's what I said.

[A]

If Mel was here, she'd be bringing some white ass the pink titty cake. Yeah, something like that. Shout out to our good sister Mel. She's chilling. Yeah, my girl hit My mom for a bunch of old school childhood pictures to put on a cake. So this should be funny. This should be funny.

[D]

Happy birthday, champ.

[A]

I'm telling you, if that picture surfaced when I was five dressed like Prince in the sequence, I'm somebody up.

[C]

Oh, I need that picture. You was putting your ass out early.

[A]

Oh, I wasn't it? But if it was, it had hair. If it wasn't. If it was like a real man. Like a real man better come back than that. I mean it.

[D]

You lost that one. You lost that one.

[A]

Yeah, I hear you better come back, bro. I hear you. I hear you, man. Now you may forget what I was about to say. Something important. Something important.

[D]

Play my man like that.

[C]

Is something about the pitcher cake. Not nothing.

[A]

It man.

[C]

Way to go.

[A]

Listen, if you come in looking stupid, you will be pillow talked about. Don't be surprised.

[C]

And pot talked about for sure.

[B]

Appreciate doing all there.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's definitely, definitely, definitely happening, man. Shout out to everybody that went to see the good Taylor. A little nip tuck here there. Bring the back in, bro. Bring the waist in. Do what you got to do. Hey, now. I mean, let it cook for a little bit. Hey, hey, hey. Wait a minute now. Wait a minute now. Wait a minute now. My brother Flip not coming. I mean, went to the best fest, though. No, I'm went to hang out with her.

[D]

No, you know. You know the finger incident. I gotta go. Hopefully they said tomorrow. I got you.

[A]

We can work it out.

[D]

Is other people coming?

[A]

Huh?

[D]

Is other people coming?

[A]

Other people are coming. I don't know that. Oh, I ain't dabbing you. I'm not dabbing. I don't know what you're saying. I don't know what you're saying. Y' all hold it down till next time. Next time you're here for me. I'll be 45, man. We'll be back same time, same place next week. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity to y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Remember, God is good all the time. Amen. Hey, them too. Where you send the guy? Where you send the God is good praying hands. And then they send you to Allah praying here Corey be doing that. I sent him the regular praying hands. He sent me the open book like this. They. That. That's just way of saying that they better than you. And I'm not going for it no more.

[D]

That's a little classic.

[A]

You can't s. You can't send the regular praying hand. That's Christian hands. Huh?

[D]

That thing is not praying.

[A]

That is praying. It's been.

[B]

It's been universally accepted as pray.

[A]

When you send the praying hands to Corey and some other people I won't name because they really famous. They send back this. Yeah, that's the. And what they're really saying is use a bum.

[C]

You're a heathen. You're a heathen.

[A]

Yo, they speaking through these emojis, and I'm just letting y' all know again, peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. I almost fuck Ian up, too. I sent the praying hands. He sent them back, but his was white.

[B]

Well, his hands are white.

[C]

So why you was mad?

[A]

Cause that means that at. At some point you hit the thing.

[D]

No, no, no.

[C]

That's his thing.

[A]

They don't.

[C]

No, they don't.

[A]

They come yellow.

[B]

They come Simpsons color on the iPhone.

[C]

They come yellow.

[A]

We only talking iPhone. They come on the iPhone. He changed it to look whiter.

[C]

I can't.

[A]

Yeah, they come yellow. He's right.

[C]

They start off yellow.

[A]

Ian changed it to look even whiter.

[D]

But he's a white man. What the fuck?

[A]

Don't do that. When you're texting me. When you're texting me, leave the prayer hands yellow.

[C]

No.

[A]

So then I'm petty. Now I'm looking at the hue of white that you put it. You ain't even that. He didn't put his complexion. He put some other white Hema you up.

[C]

He put cool tan white.

[A]

These with this.

[B]

I don't think he went with the Aryan Nation.

[A]

Yo.

[C]

He put tan white. That was crazy.

[A]

You've never heard of Joe, buddy?

[C]

We'll fold that up right now. Don't look away now, Pussy. I love that.

[A]

Drop.