Episode 858 | "Man Of The Night"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 858 | "Man Of The Night"

Date: September 6, 2025

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Overview

This episode delivers classic Joe Budden Podcast banter, bouncing from playful group ribbing about “outside” outfits and nightlife antics to substantive debates about music marketing, hip-hop’s current state, viral moments, family dynamics, and sports. The team—Joe Budden, Parks, Corey, Mark, and others—dive deep into Drake’s latest rollout, the impact of internet feuds, legacy in music, the economics of the music industry, parenting, and even the sociocultural impacts of legendary hip hop albums. As always, the episode blends impromptu humor and poignant observations, with recurring themes of nostalgia, change, and authenticity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Man of the Night" & Group Dynamics

[00:27–04:55]

• The crew playfully roasts Ish’s “outside outfit,” using it as a jumping-off point for nostalgic stories about going out, dressing up, and squad codependency when hitting the nightlife.
• Mark jokes about not sleeping for days due to work and family stress.
• The group celebrates seeing each other, with authentic check-ins and lighthearted jabs about personal chaos—kids, pets, and partners.
• Joe reflects on relationships:

  "See, outside, it'd probably go smoother if I was married." – Joe Budden [02:19]

2. Viral Moments: Fights & The Power of Social Media

[06:39–08:55]

• Mark talks about a recent viral fight (“block terrorists”/“Street Fighter” references), piquing group interest in how social media amplifies mundane conflicts.
• The conversation segues into a discussion about Drewski doing “whiteface” and the different standards applied to racial comedy (see later sections).

3. Music Roundtable: Drake’s Rollouts, Bieber, and Beyond

[17:53–36:13]

Drake’s New Rollout

[17:53–35:10]

• The crew reviews Drake’s latest livestream (described as “absolutely nothingness”) and the new single, “That's Just How I Feel.”
• Debate ensues on Drake’s pivot towards livestreams, short content bursts, and “playing retention games” instead of simply dropping music.
• There’s skepticism about the production choices, the lack of direction, and a sense that he’s not “rapping great” or making hits as in the past.
• Joe draws a parallel with LeBron; Drake’s album is seen as make-or-break for his legacy, regardless of sales:

  “I’ve never seen such a dominant artist find themselves in such a make-or-break position...” – Joe Budden [26:56]

• The team disagrees on whether Drake is playing to youth or playing (too much) to the times. Discussion on legacy versus chasing trends for engagement.

Justin Bieber Album Release & Industry Tactics

[31:19–32:29]

• Rumors circulate that Bieber’s label is strategically dropping projects to compete with/drain attention from Drake’s releases.
• Mark jokes:

  “Clearly they ain’t been at Justin Bieber house in a while…he ain’t the guy that’s about to stop Drake.” [31:35]

The Centrality of Slaps

• Extended debate on whether top-tier artists—Drake, Thug, Baby—can still generate “slaps” (big hits), and how that impacts the music ecosystem (“Drake not being great hurts…the ecosystem,” Joe, [35:10]).
• Discussion on the shifting music industry: are artists selling music or their narratives/antics? (See [59:18–65:04] for deep dive into "music vs. antics.")

4. Female Rap, Empowerment, and Viral Reconciliation

[38:52–46:00]

• Joe spotlights the Lotto x Ice Spice collab, praising both the record and the “beef being squashed.”
• The group celebrates the trend of “women empowerment” in hip hop, even joking about the “WWF logo” in the music video.

  “Two ladies coming together that had issues…great.” – Mark [43:01]

• Comparison to earlier anthems like “Wap” and “Throat Baby.”
• Lively banter about fidelity and nostalgia for the sexual liberation of recent pop culture.

5. New Music: Miguel, Leon Thomas, Trends in R&B

[48:07–55:55]

• The group previews new tracks from Miguel (“Always Time”) and Leon Thomas featuring Money Long.
• Discussion on R&B’s evolution, the importance of album sequencing, and the team’s own role shaping fan discourse (“sequencing,” “sonically,” etc.).

6. The State of Music Marketing: Antics vs. Quality

[59:18–68:54]

• Joe reads a Ransom tweet:

  “Scripted court cases, high profile breakups, gun charges, controversial social media rants, etc, to sell you an album instead of good music. Should tell you what, 'they' think of you as a consumer. Wake up.” [58:49]

• The panel analyzes Cardi B’s marketing/playbook vs. artists who “lean on the music.”
• Deep debate: Can you find success relying only on music? Are R&B artists and rap artists judged differently? Are antics now required for mainstream attention?
• Joe and Parks cite examples (Kendrick Lamar, Chris Brown, Big X) who still succeed based on musical output. Mark questions whether this is possible at the very top of rap.

7. Blended Families & The “Name Change” Debate (Ciara/Future)

[92:30–108:31]

• Mark introduces the “Ciara changes son’s last name to Wilson” story from TMZ as a lens to discuss:
  • When is it appropriate to change a child’s last name?
  • Who gets to decide and does presence/absence of the biological father matter?

  "If you don't want to be around, don't worry about it." – Parks [94:12]

• Joe, Mark, and Parks discuss lineage, legacy, nature vs. nurture, and the complications of blended families.

  "For me, you can change the name. You can't change the blood." – Joe Budden [95:38]

8. Sports: Football Season, Kawhi Investigation, Ben Simmons

[111:22–167:13]

Football Season Hype

[76:22+]

• Excitement for NFL’s return. Parks and Joe share humorous football and life analogies.
• The crew reflects on black quarterbacks now making up half of NFL starters.

  "Let's make some noise for that, man." – Joe Budden [159:50]

NBA Scandals: Kawhi Leonard Salary Cap Allegations

[111:22–121:47]

• Mark and Corey break down the Pablo Torre investigation into Kawhi’s alleged backdoor business deals; is this illegal cap circumvention or just business as usual?
• Lively discussion on fairness, small-market disadvantages, and whether “cheating” is just part of business.

Ben Simmons, Injuries, & Mental Health

[163:17–165:49]

• The group laments Ben Simmons’ rapid decline from all-star to possible retirement and worries about his well-being beyond the NBA.

  “I'm worried about him, to be honest… as a human being.” – Mark [163:49]

9. Race, Satire, and Internet Outrage: Drewski’s “Whiteface”

[87:16–91:41]

• The crew reacts to Drewski’s viral “whiteface” skit, drawing the crucial distinction between blackface’s historic harm and the dynamics of race and satire in media.

  “Because there’s a power imbalance. There’s a historical difference. Blackface has a very particular meaning and a very particular power in the United States…” – Mark [89:33]

• Joe egging Theo Von (who complained) to try blackface and “see what happens.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Drake not being great hurts…the ecosystem. Things are not the way they're supposed to be.” – Joe Budden [35:10]

• “Scripted court cases, high profile breakups, gun charges, controversial social media rants, etc…instead of good music. Should tell you what 'they' think of you as a consumer.” – Ransom tweet read by Joe [58:49]

• “If you don't want to be around, don't worry about it.” – Parks on absentee parents [94:12]

• "You can change the name. You can't change the blood." – Joe Budden on legacy [95:38]

• “Because there’s a power imbalance. There’s a historical difference. Blackface has a very particular meaning…” – Mark (on Drewski, ‘whiteface’) [89:33]

• “You know what? At a certain point in your life…legacy don’t matter when you can’t put steak on the table for your family.” – Parks (on Tyson vs. Mayweather) [134:42]

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Additional Highlights & Light Moments

• Jokes about “outfits” and “man of the night” energy permeate the show and cap off with banter about camo shorts and “designer military” versus “army-navy” fits. [176:56+]

• Joe’s Story about TV Show “For My Man”: Joe and the crew riff on the show’s crazy stories, using it as a comedic but pointed look at “choices” and manipulation in relationships. [80:39+]

• Music Lists Segment: The show dissects the top 50 female rap albums—a lively and occasionally incredulous run through the rankings, with consensus on Lauryn Hill and some head-scratching over No Name, The Brat, and Boss’s placement. [167:38+]

• RIP Segment: Rest in peace acknowledgments for Giorgio Armani, Rolling Ray, and even streaming bootleg site 'Stream East' draw both reverence and humorous reflection. [146:50+]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening banter / “outside” outfits / squad energy: [00:27–04:55]
• Mark’s viral fight & Drewski discussion begins: [06:39–08:55, 87:16–91:41]
• Drake’s rollout & marketing strategies: [17:53–35:10]
• Cardi B & music marketing: Ransom tweet debate: [59:18–68:54]
• Lotto x Ice Spice, women in rap: [38:52–46:00]
• Miguel/Leon Thomas, R&B discussion: [48:07–55:55]
• Blended families, the “name change” debate: [92:30–108:31]
• Kawhi salary scandal/NBA economics: [111:22–121:47]
• Football return, black QBs: [159:50+]
• Ben Simmons discourse: [163:17–165:49]
• Female rap albums, music legacy: [167:38–172:38]
• RIP segment: [146:50+]

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Language: Candid, irreverent, raw, but reflective.
• Tone: Alternates between playful roasting and genuine, sometimes sentimentally tinged debate.
• Chemistry: The group’s dynamic is central—inside jokes, good-faith bickering, and vulnerability (especially around changing times in music and family).

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Closing Thoughts

The episode showcases what the JBP does best: blending cultural critique, barbershop candor, and insider understanding of music, fame, and relationships. Throughout, “Man of the Night” isn’t just about going out; it’s about how moments, personas, and even industries change—whether you want them to or not.

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Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Parks]

Yo, this is an outside outfit.

[Joe Budden]

Yes? No, no, no, no.

[Parks]

That's yours.

[Joe Budden]

Specifically your outside outfit. Somebody tell the audience what we talking about.

[Corey]

Ish's outfit.

[Parks]

This is my girlfriend. We looked at issues.

[Joe Budden]

Why are we talking about issues Out.

[Parks]

This is my go outside outfit.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, they gotta know why. How we got there.

[Parks]

No, we don't. No, no, we ain't got no all. That's all. This guy.

[Joe Budden]

We start back.

[Parks]

That's crazy. But he do look like he going outside.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, when light skinned niggas specifically with hazel eyes Ish that got. That had money in the 90s and got women had their way with the ladies like was a man of the night.

[Parks]

What called you a Harley man?

[Joe Budden]

Seriously, Flooy Walker.

[Parks]

A man of the night. You.

[Mark]

You.

[Joe Budden]

You were a man of the night.

[Parks]

Do you know what a man of the night is? You was selling.

[Joe Budden]

Selling beef.

[Parks]

You was out here selling beef.

[Joe Budden]

What you that on the camouflage shorts.

[Corey]

With something fly on top.

[Joe Budden]

All white ups and some. A fly top that has preferably red and white.

[Parks]

He's going out.

[Corey]

He wants a little attention.

[Joe Budden]

He. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

He's feeling bad.

[Joe Budden]

Feeling cute. Might delete later.

[Parks]

No, this guy's not. How many lollipops you got in your pocket?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, oh, yeah.

[Parks]

You know.

[Mark]

You know.

[Joe Budden]

That's it. Yo, you play.

[Parks]

Yo, what if I just.

[Joe Budden]

That'll be better than eating the orange peels at the bar.

[Parks]

So say you. It's cool though.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that again when I'm around. Man, what's up? We gotta step out. We gotta. We gotta remind her. My girl just left. I'm supposed to be fake and sad. But if you going out got.

[Parks]

And then if two go out just to see you, squad gotta go out.

[Corey]

That's true. I'm outside.

[Joe Budden]

See, I hear you.

[Parks]

Good luck to my fellow Johnny.

[Joe Budden]

See outside it'll probably go smoother if I was married.

[Parks]

You out your. I don't know if you'll sit your ass down.

[Joe Budden]

Seriously, if I was man, serious, I might be able to be like, you know I'm out tonight.

[Parks]

Okay, that's fine.

[Mark]

Let me know how that works for you.

[Parks]

No, no. Try it tomorrow. Then when you do it Tomorrow.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not married. Anything get me in trouble? Stupid ass.

[Parks]

Imani.

[Corey]

What Imani did.

[Joe Budden]

I'm taking a shower. Heard a voice, a voice from the hallway. Mani brought them girls to the pond.

[Corey]

Like, ah, shit.

[Joe Budden]

Like, yo, this don't have nothing to do with me.

[Mark]

You got in trouble for that?

[Joe Budden]

No, but I had a talk that I didn't want to have while I was in the shower or wherever I was.

[Mark]

That's when they catch you at the shower.

[Joe Budden]

You might have been at Target or some shit. I don't remember. It's all a blur.

[Mark]

She yelled all the way down.

[Joe Budden]

It's all a blur.

[Mark]

What was your response?

[Joe Budden]

Lord, I said imani had them girls stuffed in the hallway closet and I didn't see them until they were the truth.

[Mark]

Shit, yeah, that was the truth.

[Joe Budden]

The truth.

[Parks]

It was the truth.

[Joe Budden]

But the truth. When she initiates the questions, the truth don't ring off like, the truth, like, it must be coming through different speakers.

[Parks]

You're supposed to volunteer.

[Joe Budden]

That's a different record.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's accusatory pillow talking. I was supposed to come in there during that.

[Joe Budden]

No, this is good. That is exactly what you said.

[Parks]

Why you ain't tell me?

[Joe Budden]

Who the fuck is thinking about. I got 90 million things on my brain that are of importance, the least.

[Corey]

Of which being Imani's friends from out of town.

[Joe Budden]

She wanna start using funny words with me. So you were familiar? No, no. Anyway, I'm talking shit. I love you, baby. Most importantly, I'm super sad that my baby is gone. There you go. If it's just going out, though, I'll fight through it.

[Corey]

And if y' all two were going out, I would like to.

[Parks]

I mean, then the squad gotta go out.

[Corey]

Naturally.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't get your permission slip sign.

[Parks]

Squad gotta go out. That's what I just said. That's my permission slip.

[Joe Budden]

Ooh.

[Parks]

Nah.

[Joe Budden]

If you bring your girl, I gotta fly my girl?

[Parks]

Nah, I didn't say bring my girl.

[Joe Budden]

I said the squad. Oh, like guys night.

[Parks]

Yeah, you know, going out.

[Corey]

Hey, guys night.

[Joe Budden]

Guys night.

[Parks]

Look at my face.

[Joe Budden]

Guys night. All right, it's time to have some fun.

[Mark]

We out.

[Parks]

We out.

[Joe Budden]

Where the headphones at? Look at Mark. What's up, Mark?

[Parks]

What's up?

[Mark]

What's up?

[Corey]

What's up?

[Mark]

I ain't slept in about three, four days.

[Corey]

What's going on with you?

[Joe Budden]

Yo? What? Come on, let's have an intervention.

[Corey]

Yeah, Word.

[Parks]

You do got to let the night.

[Corey]

School night school themselves for a couple to get a substitute.

[Mark]

But no, no, no, it's been. It's been work stuff. And then my son's been sick, so I've been in that hospital.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Mark]

Then I. Then he's feeling.

[Joe Budden]

Is he all right?

[Mark]

He's like, at 75% now. Okay. He was hooked to oxygen before, but now he's breathing on his own. He's good, he's home. And he's a complete asshole, man. And there's no other way to say it.

[Joe Budden]

No, I've been saying that all morning. He only get in the hospital on work days.

[Mark]

Yo, Jesus, who you telling? He back running. Yo, he tore the office up today so bad. I really think he needed more medicine. And they just. They was getting past progressive at that point. He's fine. And they sent him back to school, but he tore the whole office up, man. He's been up since 5am I'm going.

[Corey]

Through the same thing, but with cats.

[Mark]

I'll trade you any day. I'm allergic to cats. I will trade you. Yeah, man. So I just ain't been sleeping, that's all. And I. I had to do a little writing wave yesterday.

[Corey]

Ah.

[Mark]

So, you know. So there's just a lot. No sleep. I'll be all right.

[Parks]

I see you with your old school coffee.

[Mark]

I got everything. I got coffee, I got juice, I got them donuts. I sent everything over.

[Joe Budden]

You laugh out something. Let's see.

[Corey]

Little helpers.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

He's so good. Coffee, juice, donuts. That a word? Amphetamines.

[Mark]

That was yesterday. That's. I said my writing. He told me not.

[Parks]

He said, yeah.

[Mark]

I want to be that guy. My wave.

[Parks]

I want to be that guy.

[Joe Budden]

Flip, what's up, man?

[Mark]

Chilling. What up, baby?

[Joe Budden]

How you feeling? You good? I feel good.

[Mark]

Feel nice.

[Joe Budden]

You look good. Good.

[Mark]

Thank you.

[Corey]

Viral Flip.

[Mark]

Yeah, man.

[Corey]

I got friends hitting me up, Yo, Flip. Good, man.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. My parents ass.

[Corey]

Oh, damn. Once the parents get involved. Flip, come on, man.

[Parks]

I know, I know.

[Mark]

I mean, you know, we'll talk about it whenever, if I want to. Whenever. It's time right now, man. It's just. It's good to see y', all. That's all. I'm so happy to see y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

It's good to see you.

[Parks]

Said you stressing with a cat.

[Corey]

I got two cats.

[Joe Budden]

Kittens.

[Corey]

Kittens. Two kittens.

[Joe Budden]

You fight like block terrorists.

[Corey]

Like who?

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Corey]

Like Blunk?

[Joe Budden]

Like Blanca from Street Fighter. That little move he did was the Blanca.

[Corey]

I'm just curious. Did you think that he didn't fight like Blanca?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I never thought about it then he got on the ground, hit him with the electroshock.

[Corey]

No, I like this. Who's our street fighter characters?

[Parks]

Yo, that is hilarious, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Flip was blanca.

[Corey]

Yeah, and it worked.

[Joe Budden]

Loud mouth ass, right? Hey, when the loud, you gotta put him there.

[Corey]

Electric. You got the little electric.

[Joe Budden]

There's something wrong with y', all, you know?

[Parks]

Something wrong with you.

[Mark]

Nah, there's something. I watched that video about 35 times. Yeah, I know. It was a crazy day.

[Parks]

That.

[Corey]

That was before you came out on Tuesday.

[Parks]

Lean back.

[Mark]

Yeah, it happened on Monday. Then I came Tuesday.

[Corey]

He didn't want to tell us about.

[Mark]

Oh, that happened on Monday. I didn't want to talk about that. That was Labor Day was Monday. Then work was Tuesday. I was here. Oh, the footage dropped while we was doing Patreon, so.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

That's what it is.

[Corey]

It is what it is.

[Mark]

Now, don't let the parents call. Yo, mad people call. Listen, mad people call me.

[Parks]

He out here getting in fights. Nigga Drewski out here running the world.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

That's what I want to put him on.

[Joe Budden]

That's his journey. Oh, we definitely got to talk about Drew doing White Face.

[Corey]

That shit was hilarious.

[Mark]

I knew it was bad when Piers Morgan called me today that come talk.

[Joe Budden]

About it on Monday.

[Parks]

Lining him up again.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Mark, man.

[Mark]

Oh, I can't. I'm busy. Anyway, that day, I gotta do something else. But I would have, because I want to take that on. But the video was.

[Parks]

That's why you really be going up there. I think Mar it be a challenge to your vernacular.

[Mark]

Like, yeah, we get up there, it's like a. It's like a fight in the park.

[Parks]

It's a spar.

[Joe Budden]

Do you feel like Van Lathan is trying to run with some of your socio political.

[Mark]

Oh, he done took a couple spots.

[Joe Budden]

That little T shirt he had on.

[Mark]

At cnn, he wearing little T shirts now, too.

[Parks]

If he gets.

[Mark]

Now you selling my shit.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, Ben had a T shirt on CNN that said slavery is white history.

[Mark]

White history.

[Joe Budden]

Us how we survived slavery is black history. That's dope.

[Mark]

I just ordered this shirt.

[Joe Budden]

I was like. That would be marked sitting right there. Him and Pierce or somebody.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's cool. He got the spot. Proud of him.

[Parks]

Robbed your punk ass.

[Mark]

Give me your.

[Joe Budden]

Give me that.

[Parks]

It's all my. That's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

That's why you can't tell your guy friends when you lose a gig.

[Parks]

Why double back?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Heard y' all need a hoax. Start being a happy hour with the HR people.

[Joe Budden]

When I started Making phone calls to put everyday struggle in other places and talk. All my friends, them sounded ecstatic. They sounded like they was having the time of their life. Like, nah, man. No room for that over here. The happy I got fired, huh?

[Corey]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

N behav.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I had on lock back in the days, man. Oh, the good old days. Anyway, we ready, I think.

[Parks]

Yeah, let's get it. Let's get it, man.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all took care of all y' all emergencies. It's been a long week in my tweets. It's been a long week in my tweets.

[Corey]

We have another question. Is everyone here for the day? The day?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Who's here for the day? Who's not here for the day? Who's leaving at 1:00'? Clock? Whose kid missed the bus? Whose kid had a Seizure? Whose kid? Mr. Secret man over here. My girl ain't here. Is everybody good?

[Mark]

Yeah, for the day. For the day.

[Joe Budden]

Just for the day.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And if you're not, could you, like, maybe let us know? Like, well, again, we're going to. And we're going to. Oh, wait.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. All that Irish goodbye shit that y' all keep doing. I had a long week messing with y'. All.

[Parks]

No, I ain't doing Irish goodbye. I let Corey.

[Corey]

That's helpful.

[Mark]

I texted you at Ian.

[Parks]

I told E. I was like, e, jump in.

[Joe Budden]

Because you were in front of me.

[Mark]

Yeah, we were live. And I said I did the.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, see, we need a more. We need a more pronounced gotcha.

[Corey]

Hey, I gotta go, guys.

[Joe Budden]

And you know what else? I'm noticing a few of y' all are getting poorer at doing y' all other work here. Like, it used to be smooth. It used to be cool. Y' all niggas would take a walk down by the Little Plant. Yo, the she Rock bricks do it and come right, y' all come right back on in, Flip a goat, walk to the side, hit publish, edit some, walk right back. Marco, go talk to Peter now. It'd be the middle of the A block. Just get up, walk, yo. Oh, my God. It's cool.

[Parks]

It's cool.

[Joe Budden]

We have a good time today.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it. Let's see, let's see, let's see. See, let's see. Why not?

[Mark]

No way.

[Joe Budden]

Mike check 1212. Mic check 1212. Yeah, I mean, kind of got a fake little heat wave. I was excited yesterday with all that rain and thunder. Except for during the football game.

[Corey]

Yeah, up my nut.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that I ain't young enough football game to stop for an Hour. Yeah, it work. Then I still be awake.

[Parks]

I woke up, the game was off.

[Corey]

Damn.

[Mark]

It ended the same way. All y' all games end, though.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, shout to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to the first and last time listeners out there, all the subgroups. Shout out to the patronies and all that. Always for the ladies.

[Mark]

Always for the ladies.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, sir. Yeah, I mean, this the music. This the music. I'm gonna get dressed to if ish go out tonight. Ish go out tonight. I'm letting this blast through the sonos. I might send a couple texts out. Yeah, I mean, he. Wait a minute. Wait a minute, ego. 40 and up. 40 and up. Shout out to the parents out there. All the sharing. Anybody still traveling out there? Hey, wait a minute, Ego.

[Mark]

I.

[Joe Budden]

Suggest y' all.

[Mark]

Come on.

[Parks]

Something about you.

[Joe Budden]

Get scared now, right? Yo, did that. Did that Justin album end up coming out?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, it did.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Bees. The bees.

[Corey]

Oh, it's another one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Mark]

Came out last night.

[Joe Budden]

Another one last night.

[Mark]

Supposed to admit that came like three.

[Corey]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, good, good.

[Mark]

It's pretty good. Better than he combined both albums.

[Corey]

Oh, Jesus.

[Mark]

The first disc is the new one.

[Corey]

It's two hours of music. Oh, my God.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's solid, though. I like it better than the last album.

[Joe Budden]

Got it.

[Corey]

Oh, you got a little beefy trailer.

[Mark]

Yeah, Thames is on it. It's a couple good things.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I got a Florida trip in my future. I do. I'm getting the out of.

[Parks]

Who was that? Who was that?

[Joe Budden]

Flip. Flip. Flip, Flip. Flip. Flip. Game over. Flip is here. My man. My man. What episode is this?

[Corey]

858.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 858 of the JOE Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with. With some really amazing people. Flip is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. Mark is here. Parks is here. Po is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote. Last. But she's not.

[Corey]

Tanner is here.

[Joe Budden]

Tanner's in the middle. Oh, shit. Tanner's here.

[Mark]

I never met him before.

[Joe Budden]

Tanner is actually here.

[Mark]

I know.

[Corey]

Tanner's a great guy.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Tanner is here in real life. Savon is here by remote. And last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin?

[Mark]

What's poppin'?

[Joe Budden]

Games all here. How we doing? How we feeling?

[Mark]

Ain't you feeling good? You feeling good?

[Joe Budden]

Don't forget, this episode is brought to you by a Few by Powered By. Prize picks. Prize picks, gang.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

All right. What's going on?

[Mark]

What's up, man?

[Joe Budden]

What can I exploit? What's that? What can I. What can I. Agitate?

[Mark]

Well, let's start in a place we never start.

[Joe Budden]

Drake.

[Parks]

Or agitate.

[Mark]

Or agitate.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Last night, Drake put out a new single. Sort of. Well, he did a. He did a live stream for an hour and a half, which he's been doing.

[Corey]

This is his new rollout.

[Mark]

Yes, his Iceman rollout. And in. It was a song.

[Corey]

There was a couple songs in it.

[Mark]

A couple songs, but there was one that people really kind of felt strongly about. But the hour and a half, to me, was surprising. It was the least interesting hour and a half I've spent in a really, really long time watching something, and I was locked in. Cause, you know, a lot of coffee.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I can see how that might lock you in.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Triple espresso.

[Mark]

Yeah, triple, quadruple. But as I was watching it, I was kind of waiting for something interesting to happen. It was him kind of just driving around, and it was. And you heard some of the songs from the Party album. You heard some stuff. You heard a new one. You saw him hugging this really beautiful woman sitting in his room with interesting art. I mean, it was beautiful. Aesthetically, it was beautiful, but it was, like, directionless.

[Parks]

Content wise.

[Mark]

Content wise. It just wasn't saying much of anything.

[Corey]

Which is what all of these have been so far, by the way. I've. I watched them all, but by watching, I mean, scrolling through all of the. Absolutely nothing to get to the things that happen, which are minimal.

[Mark]

And. And it's. Yeah, that's what it was. It was. It was absolutely. It was absolute nothingness. I'm trying to think of.

[Parks]

See, I think that's dope.

[Mark]

Do you.

[Parks]

But isn't that retention? The game is retention. If I ain't even got to do it, y' all gotta do all the crazy to keep people watching. I could just drive around and play some old or some. Some records y' all ain't heard yet. And y' all are still going to tune in.

[Mark]

Nobody understand. You got the four Pinocchios sitting at the table. They way they come and drop ice in the plate like, all right, what the fuck is going on? I'm watching this shit like, all right, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Let me.

[Mark]

Let me, let me. What the fuck are you doing, bro? Yeah, it was nuts. And that's my man.

[Joe Budden]

He cool.

[Mark]

But I don't understand.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all know a football Game was on last night, right?

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah. See, I don't watch football. And the game paused. I was watching the score just to make sure I wasn't gonna get a bunch of cowboy trolls in my timeline. And I stayed with the Drake thing only because the song. That's Just How I Feel, which.

[Joe Budden]

I haven't heard any of these songs.

[Mark]

I want to know what y' all think about.

[Parks]

I only heard one.

[Corey]

That's Just How I Feel. There's two. There's one with E. And there's this one.

[Mark]

That's How I Feel was the one everybody was responding to personally, before you play it. I didn't hate it.

[Parks]

Nah, that should. That's.

[Mark]

It's a little too Atlanta for. It doesn't sound like anything original. Right. The flow isn't original. The content. He ain't really saying shit. But he can rap, and if you. I like when he raps, so for me, it was worth listening to. But it don't feel like this should be the third thing you release.

[Corey]

I really like the first.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he didn't release either.

[Mark]

That's fair.

[Corey]

I really like the first bit.

[Parks]

Again, I'm just playing shit.

[Mark]

We shouldn't treat it like a single.

[Parks]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Corey]

Do we wanna hear something?

[Mark]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm here.

[Corey]

I'm here.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Corey]

I'm here.

[Parks]

Beats like this one made me feel like my soul's free they pay me to speak from the heart they think that my soul's free all of them summers and slappers Baby, you owe me for real I'm here Yep. Probably would slow me down if I carry my trophies maybe when no one's around I rap like the old me I used to put chains on all of the necks of my bro skis my OGs yeah, and now they remember I took the chains and I broke free I wonder how long I'll be at the top if they don't kill me I wonder how long it take them to count out 2000 million like that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And I'm lost.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

This is the part where I said it's starting to feel too Atlanta for me.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And I made it too much in a week. Must be 250 at least.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, y' all tricked me, man. Y' all tricked me. Yo, audience, just so we clear, just so me and y' all are clear. I told Parks I wasn't chiming in on this Drake shit. Cause I didn't hear none of it.

[Corey]

Well, too late.

[Joe Budden]

He stopped doing that. To do that, to do this.

[Mark]

And that's what I was saying, man.

[Joe Budden]

Now play it again. Rewind. Not from the beginning, but I didn't need to hear that break again. There's no way that that break got approved.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Parks]

I wonder how long I'll be at the top if they don't kill me. I wonder how long it'll take them to count out killing it.

[Corey]

Don't be.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. This is a whole record somewhere.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's a whole record.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I hear somewhere.

[Corey]

I hope so.

[Parks]

I think he ain't want to put the tea out to the world, but.

[Joe Budden]

He wasn't gonna drop that old record.

[Mark]

But this is just. That's just how I feel. Is this right here? It sound like everything. It don't sound like nothing original.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up, hold up. Ca to hear you.

[Mark]

What?

[Parks]

That's just how I feel.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's just how. And I love when they talking away. They've been talking since 2008.

[Mark]

This is.

[Joe Budden]

What did I miss?

[Parks]

Give it to you, then take it away.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, this is.

[Parks]

What did I miss?

[Mark]

That's just how.

[Joe Budden]

The same thing.

[Corey]

Yeah, a little bit.

[Parks]

I'm good on this one. That's just how.

[Joe Budden]

And I went from my brother.

[Parks]

Same body, but two different colors.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go.

[Parks]

And I might.

[Joe Budden]

If I get another one. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying. It's not bad. It just sounds like everything else.

[Parks]

That first shit, when I heard Joe's gonna love this. The first shit, when I first. First heard it.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But I think that first shit came on. I was like, why they killing him?

[Corey]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Corey]

Because he gave us 15 seconds of it.

[Joe Budden]

Right? That record has to exist somewhere.

[Parks]

It does.

[Corey]

I hope it does.

[Mark]

I needed to.

[Joe Budden]

There's no studio that was okay with.

[Mark]

Stopping that, so you can go do.

[Joe Budden]

This to do that. That's not true. I'm not even letting y' all talk about Drake like that.

[Mark]

Facts.

[Joe Budden]

He ain't that far gone.

[Mark]

No, but that.

[Joe Budden]

That other shit, that. That's just a different version of what did I miss to me.

[Mark]

Right?

[Parks]

I agree with that.

[Joe Budden]

I don't really need that. I don't need that.

[Mark]

And that's why everybody's killing him. Kastanette went nuts. You know, he. He. He trashed the whole. The whole stream. Yeah. He said that stream was like ass. It was a waste of his time. Then you pad people like Rick Ross come on and clown making videos about the song and the stream. People don't like you. Yeah, yeah. I mean, people would use it as an opportunity was fire. People probably would have said nothing, but it was so disappointing. Everybody felt like they could jump on, so.

[Corey]

But this has been the streams. Like, it's been hours of nothing with two seconds.

[Parks]

I think. I think people with this one in particular thought the album was coming. Yes, that's really what it was. They thought the album was coming. Was the other streams on Thursday nights, I think.

[Corey]

I don't remember specifically. I remember that being.

[Joe Budden]

We have lives.

[Corey]

I remember them being days.

[Parks]

No, no. I'm just saying. I saw a lot of talk even leading up to this. Oh, this one is the one. The album's coming. I don't know where they got it from, but a lot of people kind of shoot themselves up to think that he's dropping the album tonight. Let me ask y'.

[Corey]

All shoot.

[Parks]

So when. When he streams. Yeah, they get the analytics and all that shit from the stream, I'm sure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he does.

[Parks]

So I think this is potentially him building back up his fan base to see that. Yo, when I drop, are they gonna support me? If niggas is willing to sit there and watch me ride around for an hour and a half and there's 70 zillion in my stream, that means that when my album drops, we kind of getting back into public favor.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Parks]

I think it might be like, listen, regardless, when his album dropped, I think he. If Drake dropped that album right this.

[Corey]

Second, we're hitting pause.

[Parks]

Everybody's gonna stop and listen to this album no matter what. People who love him, people who hate him, people who looking to say, I told you he back. People to say, look, he fell off. It's. It's gonna happen. He's just that big of an artist at this point.

[Corey]

I think he's tapping into. Streaming is very popular. I think he's having. He's been dabbling with it with Aiden and with Kaiserna and all them. I think that he is tapping into it and trying it out. And I think he's trying different from the website to the Instagram drops, to the. All the different. The content that he dropped. Like, I think he's just trying different.

[Joe Budden]

To see what works for Amazon.

[Corey]

Yeah, Like, I think he's just trying, which I. Kudos. This ain't working, but it's not great content to me.

[Mark]

That's all I'm saying. He don't need the money. Yeah. I feel you about the engagement.

[Corey]

You know, it's hard to say that.

[Mark]

What I'm saying is I think his stature is so high. I think it's. I want him to constantly put a high level art, so. And nothing like if. If he was a different artist. Look, if you can make this much money, it. Just do it. I'm like, I'd rather him. I'm thinking about legacy for him, and.

[Parks]

I think he stopped doing that a long time ago.

[Mark]

Yeah, you're right.

[Parks]

Yeah. I think post Scorpion, he ain't been doing the high level art moves. I've been playing whatever games need to be played at the time. All right, it's streaming. Let me give you a bunch of songs. Let me stop making complete albums and start making playlists where it's music for.

[Joe Budden]

You, you, you, you, you, and you.

[Parks]

And now the game is all of this live streaming stuff. Okay, cool. Let me play that game now. I think he's just keeping up with the times.

[Joe Budden]

Speaking of, as foolish as this may sound, I've never seen such a dominant artist find themselves in such a make or break position with a album like this. Album is very make or break, no matter what it sells. I'm not talking about that.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's.

[Joe Budden]

This is, I would think, is a really important release for him, which is probably why he's focusing on the streaming and doing it this way.

[Parks]

Testing the water.

[Joe Budden]

He got some advanced analytics somewhere that's telling him to do it this way.

[Corey]

In fairness, there hasn't been that many artists of this magnitude to even compare to, like Mike, the Beatles, I guess, Eminem. You'd have to throw in there. There's not too many people where it's like they were in this position and it ain't.

[Parks]

Yeah, it ain't too many people that been through what he been through either.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, especially this Lebron of this. Yeah, it's kind of like LeBron.

[Corey]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Budden]

You really can only compare. There's nobody else to compare him to.

[Corey]

He did drop another song. I don't know if y' all want to hear it. This is with Yeet.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, God. Yeah, it doghouse big dog love a crowd. Well, tell them to search my house I bet they find you face down.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Crash out Took too many pills. He'll crash out.

[Corey]

You want me to keep going? I'll keep going.

[Joe Budden]

It's not fair. Don't try to get me in trouble. I ain't saying it.

[Parks]

What I saw so I cashed out.

[Mark]

Bad.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, C. You're bad.

[Mark]

You're bad.

[Corey]

I'm tired of that little Batman voice. That's why I just want to say.

[Parks]

That I never liked it.

[Corey]

I'm tired of that Batman voice. What is going on?

[Joe Budden]

I like what I saw, so I cashed out. All right, all right, you try. You forced me to say it. Well, distinguished panel.

[Corey]

Distinguished panel.

[Parks]

How.

[Joe Budden]

How do you guys feel? Musical experts.

[Mark]

I'm not a musical expert, but I don't. I don't like that.

[Parks]

That record's not for me.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I'm not the target demo for that song.

[Mark]

Yeah, I'm too old for that. None of it sucks. It all feels like album filler to me. None of it sounds like something that I want to like, that I want.

[Parks]

To hear outside of the.

[Corey]

That first 30 seconds of whatever that was.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, if it get much worse, I'm gonna start asking to bring Yachty back to the studio. Oh, shit.

[Parks]

They dropped the second record, too.

[Corey]

The third one, you mean?

[Parks]

No, he dropped another song. They dropped him. And Party.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah, the remix.

[Joe Budden]

The remix. With Cash Go back.

[Parks]

With Cash Go back.

[Joe Budden]

We can get to that later.

[Mark]

That shit sounded great. That's when he was driving it. That shit was. Made me look it up, and I was like, oh, this is fine. That's the only thing I like. But then I saw it was a remix. I was like, do y' all think.

[Joe Budden]

Any of these songs will appear on whatever project is coming?

[Corey]

Yes.

[Parks]

No.

[Mark]

I do, too.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think. I think. I think the ones that react. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

He's in the waters.

[Parks]

That's what I'm thinking he's doing.

[Mark]

He's gonna see the reaction, and he's gonna just.

[Parks]

This is live listening sessions.

[Mark]

Bait and Switch.

[Corey]

I don't find these to be too far astray from what he's been doing for the past few years. So I do think they will make the album.

[Parks]

But that stuff that he's been doing for the last. Pardon me. The stuff he's been doing for the last couple years hasn't kept him at the elite level that everybody holds him at.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Parks]

He's actually getting flack for the shit that he'd been putting out the last couple years. So I think these are literally testers that he's throwing out. He got his fillers out today, hearing what the responses are from the masses, and I think he gonna be led in that. In that direction. So that first shit that we played that everybody's saying it was flyer.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He gonna start leaning into that direction.

[Mark]

More if he do that. That's the drink I've always Loved. Yeah, that's. That's the Drake I actually love.

[Parks]

I think that is. What did I miss. To Joe's point, I think that second song is. Or when it.

[Corey]

Yeah, it was pivoted.

[Parks]

Yeah, that was the same shit. Don't nobody want to keep hearing that, bro.

[Mark]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. Conspiracy theory. Last night, people were saying when the rumor that the album was coming out, suddenly Justin Bieber pops up with the picture holding up his Swag 2 album, saying, Midnight. Now, it didn't come out at midnight. Came out later. I was up and listening before it. But the argument was maybe they were doing that to block Drake. The Def Jam was potentially rushing this Bieber piece out to push back against Drake and to undermine his success. Is that a crazy theory?

[Parks]

No, I believe it.

[Mark]

You believe it? Mm.

[Corey]

I don't believe that, but.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I believe it only. Cause this is the second time.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

First with clips.

[Mark]

Clips.

[Joe Budden]

First time with clips. Now with Drake.

[Corey]

How many Bieber audibles does play?

[Joe Budden]

Well, I mean, that's what it tells me too. That clearly they ain't been at Justin Bieber house in a while. I don't know who the they think he is anymore. He ain't the guy that's about to stop.

[Mark]

He's stopping Drake.

[Joe Budden]

No, he didn't stop the clips.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, he drove it up.

[Parks]

Yeah, he blocked the one, though. Maybe that's all they trying to do again to these artists today. The number one that week is like, yeah, diamond.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, pay the 50 grand like young Thug did.

[Parks]

That's the way they treat that.

[Joe Budden]

Go to chase. Pay the 50 grand.

[Mark]

Block it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I do. I do believe that, but.

[Parks]

And that's why it might not have came out until three, because they really weren't prepared for it.

[Mark]

Yeah, they put a lot of tracks. That was 44 tracks on the new BE Swag 2. It's two. Two discs. The second disc is really just the first album. Swag 1. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Never before has there been a rapper to rap as great as Drake raps. Not rap great like this. Not great anymore for a long time. That ain't never happened before, dog.

[Parks]

We talked about this when he did the Scary Hours three joint, which was rapping. We already had our. We got to rehash that. Yeah, but the masses ain't taped today. I want to hear it. They don't want to hear that. And again, Drake ain't just rapping for one particular audience no more.

[Corey]

See, I hate this.

[Joe Budden]

I'm so tired.

[Corey]

But, dog, what the you want?

[Joe Budden]

I don't Want to hear that?

[Corey]

Let me speak, man.

[Mark]

That.

[Corey]

That album is not what we're talking about. Drake rapping great. We're not like, go get alchemist and conductor. Like, he was rapping over Boy won the beats.

[Joe Budden]

Great.

[Mark]

Lee.

[Corey]

He was rapping over hit records greatly. He doesn't have to go do Boom Bap to.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's great. Wasn't. I know that you keep painting it like that, but it don't address the point.

[Corey]

Like, he was rapping records.

[Parks]

Yes, I agree. He ain't been making hits, period, like that since.

[Joe Budden]

All right, so you're not making hits and you're not rapping great.

[Parks]

I think he's still been rapping great. That's what we diff. We differ.

[Mark]

Justin, what you're saying. There's a period. And you may disagree on this. Y'. All. You both. All y' all may disagree. I thought there was a period after the Eminem show where em had a couple of really uninspired albums. He raps his ass off. But he had a string of albums that just weren't good, and they felt uninspired to me.

[Corey]

He did.

[Mark]

Is that where Drake is now? Is he uninspired, or is he just trying to be so strategic that he's.

[Corey]

I think that he's trying to appeal to youth and youth culture, and it's not really working. It ain't clicking. Because he's also 38. Like, you don't have to try to do this, I think in an attempt to stay in that major pop star lane and be young and appeal too young. It's backfiring, in my opinion.

[Parks]

I agree. It's a really good point. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Like, the streamers have turned against him. Well, at least after episode three, they weren't a fan of episode three. Let me not say I don't know.

[Corey]

That they were a fan. It sounds like a lot of people haven't even watched the other ones, judging by the. Because if you saw the other ones, you would have the same opinion. Like, he's. It was nothing for an hour, however long the was with a song somewhere.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

This is the same formula he's used for all three of these.

[Joe Budden]

Iceman. I wouldn't expect to get so much love from the streamers because I would expect them to view me as competition that Part two.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I'm reserving anything that I have to say on the matter until I hear the project. A lot of y' all out there already know where I stand on all things Drake. It hasn't changed. I'm Just waiting on the music.

[Corey]

And I want to be clear, like, because we get the flack for being haters up here. We love Drake. We want to see and hear great Drake. Like, that's all that it is.

[Joe Budden]

I was. I was telling Parks outside that, yeah, I'm not feeling any of this music. But Drake not being great hurts.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It hurts the ecosystem.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Like, things are not the way they're supposed to be. If he's not great, ain't making as much money as they would normally make.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I follow the excitement, the. The moments. Everybody. Everybody having, like that art. What did Most Def call them?

[Parks]

Target.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody having that store to go to where you could find. You could get a song for me. You can get a song for you. You can get a song for you. That's why I don't like that. That Ice keeps saying about. About. Oh, he's. Oh, he's trying to appeal to the kids dog. Target got for the kids and for adults and for me. Yeah. So.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But we'll see. Yeah.

[Parks]

But if I'm chasing.

[Mark]

Both could be true, though. Both would be true.

[Corey]

And speaking to the. The content piece, like, I follow a lot of football podcasts. Dolphins, because I'm a Dolphins fan and they're unbiased, you know, just reporting. But they always say, like. Like it's good when the team does good. More people care about this. So, like, it's kind of the same concept here. Like, you want to see him do.

[Parks]

Good to your football analogy. Drake is the Cowboys.

[Joe Budden]

To death today, buddy.

[Parks]

To death. I said one thing. Drake is the Cowboys with the NFL going against them. Yeah, exactly. We always gotta remember that part. July, it could be maybe. And the Cowboys be on espn.

[Corey]

Okay. That's who she says.

[Parks]

Even when they lose, even when they ain't. Guess what the headlines are. The Cowboys. When the Cowboys are great. Guess what the headline is. The Cowboys. He's the fucking Cowboys.

[Mark]

And.

[Parks]

And. And from a. I see what you're saying analogy.

[Mark]

I just hate the Cowboys, man.

[Parks]

Not just that. Drake is fighting an uphill battle right now. He is like the damn near the music industry has turned against him and he's trying to navigate through this. He ain't never been here before, ever. Because he's been the darling since.

[Corey]

True.

[Parks]

He's been crowned. So if I think so now, this is all brand new.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

It's new territory for him. I agree.

[Corey]

I think the solution is slaps, man.

[Parks]

Yeah, sure.

[Joe Budden]

I agree.

[Parks]

Music, it's always slaps.

[Joe Budden]

Where's 40 word?

[Corey]

There's an article in the Rolling Stone. I haven't read it yet. I'm curious to know where 40 is, because I don't. I feel like 40 being absent or seemingly absent is maybe kind of why we're getting some of this. I could be wrong.

[Joe Budden]

Give me Quinn Miller again.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

At this point, I'll take who Shorty to work that off. Give me Courtney from Hooters. Go find the damn BlackBerry. This. These raps.

[Parks]

This is not it.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's not it.

[Parks]

I'm interested to see how this is.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Parks]

I want to see how the younger ones feel about it. Like, that's what. Because it seemed like he'd be playing to them. Like, I'm fine if it's not for me, if I'm not your intended audience.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Parks]

But now, whoever you're intending to, I.

[Mark]

Want to get with you.

[Joe Budden]

Go home. How about that? Ain't going home enough? Go home. You ain't making them songs from the embassy. Your house too fly for you to even lie and say. Yeah, I came up with this in my living room. No, you didn't. You. Somewhere you ain't supposed to be coming up with this. Huh? The great room. The great room, yeah. My bedroom. The great room. Yeah. Yeah. He don't have a living room. No. But, yeah. Go in there and be great. Yeah. I don't know where he at. Listening to somebody. Listening to. Anyway. What else? What else? What else we got? Who wants to argue about Ice Spice and Lotto?

[Corey]

Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

All right. I'm gonna play it. Please and yet.

[Mark]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

We'll let y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Let y' all know. Let y' all know before I cut it on.

[Corey]

Cook off I like it.

[Joe Budden]

Let y' all know before it even come on. So y' all know what side of the fence I'm on.

[Parks]

I like it. They gonna never change unsurprised 45, 50, it ain't gonna matter.

[Joe Budden]

I like this little song right here.

[Corey]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I see y'. All. I see y' all thinking about it right now.

[Parks]

I'm trying to see where we going.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all are unsure Lotto star, you know where we going.

[Mark]

I sit on.

[Joe Budden]

Hold for show but I ain't into the skate I turn around and think has entered the chat Same dick, different night can't relate no makeup in no bunny this ass still gonna get eight, mama ain't hard to find I'm still in the this whole thing I forgot but you still on the plate have mercy shape Real curvy My man bought me stitches Those words can't hurt me. Stop playing with Big Lotto. I see y'.

[Mark]

All.

[Joe Budden]

It's okay. All right, everybody stop for a second. Come on. It's okay.

[Parks]

It's okay.

[Mark]

I like that.

[Corey]

I'm rolling.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but y' all like fighting yourself.

[Parks]

Nah, not at all. I'm over here.

[Joe Budden]

It's hard.

[Mark]

Everybody don't have to learn just like you.

[Joe Budden]

You a pterodactyl.

[Parks]

You such a 20 year old bird.

[Mark]

But that should make you want to go outside, though.

[Parks]

He be outside.

[Mark]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

Be outside. That be getting me in trouble, too. I'll be outside a lot. All right. But if we go outside tonight and that.

[Mark]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I'm going to ask for that.

[Mark]

You going to make that? Come on.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going to request that.

[Corey]

That come on the jukebox.

[Joe Budden]

How do y' all feel about Lotto and Ice Spice deading whatever tension they had?

[Corey]

I think that's flush.

[Joe Budden]

I like gather to work Women empowerment video shoot.

[Mark]

I thought it was wonderful.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I watched it. You watched the video, huh?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Corey]

That was a good coffee last night.

[Mark]

You ain't seen coffee like this. Shout out to Ty, Lil. He was in the video.

[Joe Budden]

I mean too. Over some coffee now. Yeah.

[Corey]

Let's hear icebergs, dude.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, for sure. Popping out with that gap I'm a bad always pouting Be so damn thirsty.

[Corey]

Trying to jump peppers.

[Parks]

I just said not mad at Ice Spice.

[Mark]

We all with it ain't nothing wrong with it. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.

[Joe Budden]

It's okay. We could say up here that we with the Ice Spice verse too. I am.

[Mark]

I just said yo was twerking up on the table or something.

[Parks]

I'm not doing that.

[Joe Budden]

I'll bring about Be so damn thirsty.

[Mark]

Trying to jump peppers.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz I'm always in the mix on top so when I'm his bland that gat on his hand that gap his plans this gat gonna make me that band this gat gonna make him a man like, he get behind and he like Dan. He like just keep on doing that dance. Fine. I like fine around me too rich really living life without no rules no, no, no Never was able to tell.

[Mark]

Me what I can't do not go.

[Joe Budden]

Thick spicy Never worry about how another.

[Mark]

Hoe move go I got that. I like the video too. The video like the w old WWF logo they put and they in the ring.

[Joe Budden]

I thought it was dope.

[Mark]

Two ladies coming together that had issues. They came in there. It was great. Yeah, I like that was heavy. She Gave way to get through tonight. She got off those epic.

[Joe Budden]

She went back Ice bites, right?

[Mark]

She got the honey buns eating honey buns Zebra cakes. Let's see what's hanging, huh?

[Parks]

Nutty buddies.

[Mark]

Yo. No, wait, stop.

[Joe Budden]

She got a fat ass, but we expect that from you, Martin. About to bust. And I made the jeans. That can hide it. Oh, man. Nah. But I saw a lot of people picking up the video. They both look great. They both put Beef to the side. Even though I did enjoy Lotto bringing, like, 20 Suburbans to ice Spice Block. I like Dead in the Beef. And I like the song.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I like the song, which is all right. I do.

[Parks]

I'm not mad at this.

[Mark]

Shout out to Squash and Beef.

[Parks]

I ain't mad at it now.

[Joe Budden]

This ain't better. This, to me, is not better than Wap. No, no. But it's whoppish, okay? It's Wap Light. When Wap was out, Wap went crazy. I went crazy when Wap was out, everybody was faithful when Wap was out.

[Mark]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Budden]

What? Extra.

[Corey]

Even more.

[Joe Budden]

Me too. Me too, boy. Me too, y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God.

[Mark]

What's faithful to you?

[Joe Budden]

But was it tough?

[Corey]

Was it tough?

[Mark]

Who's faithful to you guys? What's faithful to you? I just told you your definition. It depends on your glasses, too. Your shades.

[Joe Budden]

You want to joke with me like this?

[Mark]

No, I do think I can go all the way. I do. And I want you to go all the way. I'm down.

[Joe Budden]

You down to go all the way. Love you too much. I'm shooting right back.

[Mark]

Don't edit my shit out. And if you do, I'mma do it on the block. I'm going to do it the other way.

[Joe Budden]

See, my girl even hear y' all talk like that and she thinking something. But I'm so faithful.

[Mark]

No, it's not at all.

[Joe Budden]

So you saying I'm talking about during wap.

[Mark]

I'm not talking about. Now I know you fake.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about during Wap, when Wap was out.

[Mark]

You see old man over there? It's watching the video when Wap was out.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, well. Oh, well.

[Mark]

I tried to told you, man, that. Now you see why I was.

[Parks]

I see why you drunk so much coffee.

[Mark]

What was that video, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

If y' all was single, y' all would pipe both of them. Them is what you're saying.

[Parks]

No, they're too young. Good answer.

[Joe Budden]

But not young enough to make your leg keep doing. Doing like this. Why? Why would you watch videos your leg when you hit 50 you can't even control. You can't control it. I don't remember what I was saying. I was saying something you said when Wap was out. Oh, when Wap was out, Throat Baby was out, too.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mark]

Substance.

[Joe Budden]

Let me just remind y'. All. Throw. Baby was that, though? What? And Throat Baby was out at the same time.

[Corey]

Oh, they got Jana from Love island in the video. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Park's looking at the video.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I need some coffee.

[Joe Budden]

I need some coffee.

[Corey]

Just a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

Tell y' all a lot of love on that island.

[Mark]

It's a nice video.

[Parks]

It is.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

Is there any more new music? I think we've. We've glazed enough on the Ice Vice and Lotto record.

[Corey]

Up here. Listen, we just appreciate good filmography.

[Joe Budden]

When Wap was Out was in.

[Parks]

Will Not Let Go Let that was out.

[Joe Budden]

That's when was sexually liberated. I ain't going to lie. That's like when the Slut Walk was bopping.

[Corey]

Made 21 savage do the slow walk.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, let that go. That sounds crazy. We don't talk about that.

[Parks]

Nah, we don't talk about that sign that said I'm a slut.

[Joe Budden]

21 Savage did do the Slut Walk.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Nah.

[Mark]

Yo, that's what happened when you got that.

[Parks]

Hey, that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

I thought I saw at the party. Let me see.

[Parks]

I forgot.

[Joe Budden]

He did the Slut walk. I ain't mad at him.

[Parks]

Hell no, I ain't mad.

[Mark]

She got it like that.

[Joe Budden]

I go to Starbucks with mine sometimes. I don't be wanting to go.

[Parks]

Yo, what's wrong with you, y'?

[Joe Budden]

All. Where y' all go? With y'. All, Girl, that. Y' all don't really be wanting to go home. This nigga.

[Mark]

It's.

[Parks]

You know, it's early, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo. All right. Any more new music? I'm done with you.

[Mark]

Just kidding, baby.

[Joe Budden]

I love you. I'm done with you. There you go.

[Mark]

Learning fast.

[Parks]

Clean that up.

[Corey]

Holy shit.

[Joe Budden]

No, I didn't.

[Corey]

Oh, this Miguel. We got the Miguel record. Did you hear?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Miguel dropped. Yeah, I like it.

[Corey]

I think it was pretty good.

[Joe Budden]

I like it.

[Corey]

Should we play some or.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, play a little bit. Even though it gets greater later.

[Corey]

It does. It's a. It's a. It's not a right off the bat kind of record.

[Joe Budden]

It's a slow burn. You need to hear the whole thing to appreciate his beauty type of thing. Yeah, it's a real good record, though.

[Corey]

This is always time, Miguel.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go. Miguel being back.

[Mark]

Lessons learned.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say it's Too late.

[Corey]

I thought there was always time.

[Mark]

When you laugh this hard and you try this hard, but it's still not enough.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe this time.

[Parks]

Love me.

[Joe Budden]

Let's go. It just feels good to hear Miguel again.

[Corey]

It's a slow burn record. It's not like the it comes on.

[Joe Budden]

It's not an instant, immediate impact type of record. However, I bet you that when Miguel drops his album, that record is either before this one right here is either before or after something. That better?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's what this gives me. Like you'll appreciate it more in the sequence of the. In the flow of the album. Oh, I'm that guy now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

I'm that guy shooting a lot of Bell.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. This podcast is responsible. This podcast is responsible for you cut that off, Park. This podcast is responsible for a lot of.

[Mark]

Of.

[Joe Budden]

Jargon being attached to how we describe albums. Yeah, it is. We started a lot of the cohesive. Cohesive.

[Corey]

That's an old one.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like Sonically was us. Sonically was us.

[Corey]

Not for me.

[Joe Budden]

Not for me. Yeah, we started a few of them, I think.

[Corey]

Yeah. Sequencing. No one gave a about no sequencing.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, please. Not at all. I never heard that before. Never heard that before. Let's see what else is in music? What else is in music? Anything. Anything. Anything. Where's my phone? Oh, we got the Leon Thomas remix with Money long and this one I bought. Let's see.

[Corey]

You know, replace it so it'll be a little.

[Joe Budden]

You play it.

[Corey]

No, I'm buy Miguel when it. When it comes out. For real.

[Joe Budden]

Cause I was about to clown it like I just said when I first cut it on. By the time I got to the end of it. That's a great. Appreciated it. It's a nice record. It is when you get some time Listen to those.

[Parks]

I. I appreciate your music.

[Joe Budden]

You R and B a opinion.

[Parks]

I'm serious. But that. Why'd you.

[Joe Budden]

You don't like it. That's because you got your camos on and that's why.

[Mark]

You in that gat.

[Corey]

The record is a little more like alternative, which is not that sound on.

[Parks]

The soundtrack to what's the werewolf movies Twilight. That is on the Twilight soundtrack.

[Joe Budden]

And you went in your drawer and found the socks that go with the. The ups.

[Mark]

There's no socks.

[Parks]

He ain't got no socks on.

[Corey]

Nah, he got the.

[Joe Budden]

He got. It's got. It's just not a. No sock.

[Mark]

He old nigga. He got.

[Joe Budden]

You got socks on.

[Mark]

You got the roll the ankle socks.

[Joe Budden]

Do you have socks on?

[Parks]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he in his bag. He in his bag. He in his bag. Wait. All right, all right. Bet. Stay less. We out. Yo, what's rocking out there?

[Mark]

Hey, I'll be on that.

[Joe Budden]

Couldn't deny when you started. When you started not wearing up socks.

[Parks]

Socks? I'm 49 and I'm from the hood. That's. We don't wear socks in the summertime like that. That new long sock crew socks.

[Joe Budden]

We going. We going from New Jersey.

[Mark]

Am I lying?

[Joe Budden]

He got his ass shaped. We out.

[Corey]

We hitting the street.

[Mark]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

What else? What else?

[Corey]

Leon Thomas.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Leon Thomas.

[Parks]

When I'm talking to you I don't know what to say but I can call up a stranger and talk my whole life.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing different in the first verse. Like the song is the song. And one of my favorite songs off his album. Hey, oh, still fire. Now you got to play it. Yeah, now turn it off. Turn it off. This is hard. But Money Long is on the second verse of this. Come on, let's get to the second verse. I love her. The word. You didn't mean it when we were at the altar then now that I'm gone don't try to act like you did now now you coming for my commas you my little baby mama telling people that I'm crazy when you left me with a baby finally seeking up for myself so I said I'm losing my ball claiming I'm keeping you from your se. It's not like I had a choice I was win when you met me or did you forget? No congrats on the Grammy. Not even pretend shopping sprees with my money now with my groupies stress of it all is killing me so I really think you're trying to do me and I understand that everything that I say all right, all right, all right, all right. That they cooking?

[Corey]

Yeah, they cooking. They cooking some more standard R B.

[Joe Budden]

For you as a Leon Thomas Money Long. Both friends of the show.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

And Marshall and Mar. Another friend of the show, Leon Thomas reminds. It's funny that she started that second verse like that. He so reminds me of a modern day music soul child.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but a better vocalist.

[Mark]

Oh, hey, I think he's a bit of vocalist and I love music, so.

[Parks]

Chess, I'm with that.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if that's true.

[Parks]

I agree with Mark.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if that's true. I can't say.

[Mark]

That might be a preference thing.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, order. I mean, the last few times you've heard music Soul child Vocally, maybe it wasn't the best, but prime music, soul child's voice. I don't know about that.

[Parks]

That's y' all back.

[Joe Budden]

Am I saying something that's like far fetched out of his world some.

[Mark]

No, no, no. I'm. I. I got nothing but love for me.

[Joe Budden]

And I've seen Leon live. He's. He's off the charts.

[Mark]

Yeah, he's off the charts. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying like, Dwyane Wade is a. Is one of my favorite players. Kobe's is a better basketball player.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark]

It's not a dis.

[Corey]

He's not a way.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah. No, I love music, soldier. I know him my whole life. I love music.

[Joe Budden]

He's just, you know, you're a Philly card.

[Corey]

Nah, this one, I think this is a different card.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's that other one.

[Corey]

That's the other one.

[Joe Budden]

It's both of the cards. It's both of them.

[Mark]

Wait, I don't know what card we talking about now.

[Joe Budden]

Coke card.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

They building a case against Mark online. He said you got a lot of anti black takes when it comes to like music.

[Mark]

What they say anything online? Yeah, anti black. Cause I think Leon Thomas is a better vocalist. Let's catch it.

[Joe Budden]

They'll say this is not one of those.

[Corey]

Was one of them.

[Parks]

Yeah, what's.

[Mark]

I don't think I ever had an anti black tape.

[Parks]

Maybe.

[Mark]

Actually, I don't. I don't say my anti black takes in public. I'll never talk about quarterbacks.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Mark]

I've never said a word.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Parks]

This guy.

[Joe Budden]

I think where he fell on Shador was one. Of course, the bronnie was one.

[Mark]

See, that's not an anti black tape.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying what they say. I don't think that.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think that.

[Mark]

Yeah, I know you don't.

[Joe Budden]

So we clear?

[Mark]

Yeah. You know what it is? If you don't agree with people, they don't actually listen to what you say. Like, they think I don't like Shador because I said his first preseason game shouldn't be the determinant of whether he proved the people wrong. I said let's wait till two games. Fuck. You hate Shador, you hate Angel Reese, you hate so and so. It's like no hate nobody.

[Corey]

And the other games were not well.

[Mark]

But see, if I'd been petty and went to game two where he got Molly whopped, you know, But I'm not gonna blame him.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that would have been anti black, right?

[Mark]

Exactly. So I, like Chappelle said I did him a favor by not saying anything.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I mean? Is there anything else in music that we need to hit?

[Corey]

I do want to mention that I like that Carti's using the court pictures for physicals. Like alternate covers for the physicals. I think that's hilarious.

[Mark]

Don't start your shit, yo.

[Corey]

When Wap was out.

[Parks]

You have to do none of this.

[Joe Budden]

When Wap was out. Different time in the world, I guess. My question for you, Parks, is, and I don't want to sound too conspiracy theory, ish. My question to you is chicken of the egg. Do you believe that these court proceedings were in fact authentic court proceedings.

[Corey]

Chicken or the egg. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I think they were authentic. But I think that she intentionally may have laid on some sauce in terms of how she looked and how she acted up there, knowing that she could maybe use this for something. But I do also think that that's genuinely her. So I don't know. I'm a little conflicted he's saying that especially, I'm assuming, the coverage, the photos, the. The video. It's a little rare to get, like, video and photo footage from a. It was a hearing, wasn't it? That's a little. That's a little different.

[Mark]

But you don't think it was like a fake proceeding?

[Corey]

I think the proceeding was real. I think that the coverage, the media involved in the. In the coverage of it may have.

[Parks]

Been extra, but Cardi's must see tv. So you don't know what she is or is not going to do for sure. But it's been a bunch of media outlet.

[Corey]

It's been a bunch of court cases involving Cardi. We haven't seen footage in photography and album covers come out of it. Either way, I think it's brilliant, by the way.

[Joe Budden]

I think about that.

[Corey]

I think that's good. I think that's good marketing.

[Joe Budden]

Regardless.

[Mark]

She gonna hit that number. I told you she was gonna hit.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna read this Ransom tweet from a few days ago just because I absolutely love it.

[Corey]

That was a great tweet.

[Joe Budden]

Ransom says, and I quote, scripted court cases, high profile breakups, gun charges, controversial social media rants, etc, to sell you an album instead of good music. Should tell you what, quote, unquote, they think of you as a consumer for sure. And not to wake up. My woke side.

[Corey]

Wake it up.

[Joe Budden]

I agree, I agree, I agree. This may be a real court proceeding. I don't think it's being handled that way from the label side. The label side is like real life. This is inconsequential. There's nothing that's going to come from this. Let's get the press, let's get the looks. Let's just be in the newspaper, capitalize on, say something funny. So, I mean, I'm at, like, believe none of what you see, not even half of what you hear anymore.

[Corey]

I think that's where we are with. With life in general. And I think it's intentional. I think. I think between the screams of fake news to now, the AI and the proliferation. Proliferation of that. Pardon me, I can't speak today. I think it's all designed to keep us guessing about what's real and what's fake.

[Joe Budden]

Did you see her? Did you see her pregnancy Unreveal?

[Corey]

I did not.

[Joe Budden]

After she won the.

[Parks]

The.

[Joe Budden]

The. Her court proceedings, she did a video where she's removing, like, extra layers from her almost to say that, hey, I was pretending. I was pretending to be. To be pregnant. Don't get all quiet and stupid on me.

[Parks]

No, no, it ain't even that.

[Joe Budden]

Don't leave me on the ledge.

[Corey]

That was flabbergast. I think. Yeah, I think that was genuine.

[Joe Budden]

All right. We could be a room full of niggas and talk about it. I feel like y' all feel.

[Parks]

Regarding the ransom tweet.

[Mark]

Oh, she went back to the ransom.

[Parks]

I ain't speaking on. Oh, regarding the ransom tweet, I agree to a certain extent because I think that once you generate a certain dollar amount, then it's not just music at that point. I think it's the music business at that point. And we've seen what the music business does to generate revenue. So I'm not mad at them. If they had camera crews out there. I'm not mad at any of that shit. Any. Any press is good press. She got an album coming out. She just beat her hearing trial. Whatever the case may be, we gonna market that shit as we see fit. I'm not mad at that. And he also implied that it's not good music. Pardon me. And that's not. Not a given. We haven't heard the project yet. We've heard enough.

[Mark]

Well, not enough.

[Joe Budden]

We've heard.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

What they wanted us to hear from the project. It ain't been good music.

[Joe Budden]

And he's not saying. He's not saying it, but he's not saying. But he's not saying. Good music doesn't exist.

[Parks]

No, he's saying versus good news.

[Joe Budden]

You're not leaning on music.

[Parks]

You're not selling. You're not using the music to sell your project. You're doing everything else. It's all antics now.

[Joe Budden]

Not many people are using music to.

[Parks]

Sell music because music don't sell no more. And that's my point.

[Mark]

True.

[Joe Budden]

That's not. That's not true.

[Mark]

Times is different, bro.

[Joe Budden]

The times are different and that's not true.

[Mark]

The ones that we could really argue up here, the ones that are getting head.

[Joe Budden]

Hold on.

[Mark]

The ones that are getting ahead, the ones that's getting the most recognition are getting recognition based off of the antics, period. All that fake pregnancy, all that. That's what I'm seeing.

[Parks]

Dog. Tell me, what good music is selling just off the music alone?

[Joe Budden]

What good music is Cardi B.

[Parks]

That was not just off the music alone.

[Mark]

Are you saying no rollout, no promote?

[Parks]

I mean, where the music is the forefront?

[Joe Budden]

The actual music n the clips put the music at the forefront.

[Parks]

Put the music clips put the music in the forefront. We disagree. No, they wrote then what was at the forefront? Yeah, them. The fact that this is the first album in 20 years. I hate to break it to you, that's wrong.

[Joe Budden]

If that music wasn't that music, nobody gave a. Nobody gave a like that.

[Parks]

If they wasn't everywhere, people wouldn't even have heard the music. It's my point. But that don't matter. But they still was everywhere.

[Joe Budden]

Leaning on one music to back up being everywhere. No, they. No, not back it up.

[Parks]

They did back it up.

[Joe Budden]

They leaned on it.

[Corey]

I don't want to. I don't want to conflate all marketing with what we're talking about. We're talking about. We're talking about all marketing. Zero music. Good music to lean on.

[Mark]

Yes, right.

[Corey]

That's what we're talking about.

[Joe Budden]

A court case popping and she gave us imaginary players, which I think is a decent record.

[Parks]

So I don't want Outside that got SummerSlam. They've done a bunch of other. That was not just music.

[Joe Budden]

Not to lean on. That came in a flat as a flash in the pan. Nobody's been leaning on the music.

[Parks]

That's what I'm saying about that. So I asked you not leaning on him.

[Joe Budden]

Tell us. Freddie Gibbs has been leaning on music. Yes, but if you want me to. But if you want me to go bigger than that. Drake is somewhat leaning on music.

[Parks]

No, he's not. No, he's not.

[Joe Budden]

Not.

[Parks]

No, he is not.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I disagreed him.

[Parks]

He just did an hour and a half long stream. You know what Drake is leaning on? Y' all are waiting for me to respond to the.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he's not going to respond to the. But there.

[Parks]

But they're all that red button.

[Joe Budden]

They still teasing.

[Parks]

Red button.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. That's not my business. But I noticed somebody somewhere is. But when he gets however many people together to centralize in one place, music comes on. Yes, music.

[Mark]

How do I.

[Parks]

How do I get y' all here? I got y' all thinking it's gonna be this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm tricking you.

[Joe Budden]

Look over here.

[Corey]

Look over here.

[Joe Budden]

I disagree with that.

[Corey]

You said you thought that at the beginning of this episode, you said that the thought was this was gonna be an album which is music. It's not. This is gonna be a diss record.

[Parks]

No, but sure. Yes. But we all. They're also anticipating.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Some level of a response on his album that's been teased. But people don't fuck the response. People are want to hear Drake music, period. Whether it be like I said, to hate on it, to love it. He's at that point he could put out bad music and people are gonna rush.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want us to deviate from what we talking about. Chris Brown leans on music.

[Parks]

Absolutely. Talking about rappers. Joe, you was talking about rappers, but.

[Corey]

That might be the problem.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking about music. Artists that lean on music necessarily just rappers. It's an issue that less rappers are doing it, but I think less rappers are rapping. Rap, rap, rap. Got a whole different issue that they gotta address at some point. And this is part of it. Agree?

[Mark]

I agree.

[Joe Budden]

Just for musicians as a whole.

[Parks]

No, it's different. A lot of people are letting the music speak for themselves when it comes to R and B and other genres of music. I'm talking about rap, and especially once you get to a certain point.

[Mark]

You talking about, like elite rappers when.

[Parks]

You get to a certain point in success.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, what did Kendrick lean on? Music.

[Parks]

That's not true. I'm asking if y' all think that Kendrick Lamar did not benefit from this Drake beef. He leaned on music. 100.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

He didn't say nothing else but music.

[Mark]

It's all music.

[Parks]

He didn't do else outside of that one interview that they did. He did not do a thing but drop music.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Mark]

He didn't lean on music.

[Parks]

Yet even his responses came in music.

[Mark]

The beef with Drake was a musical beef.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Parks]

I didn't write on you. There was no Instagram post. There was none it was. Was no writing on the black.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't lean on something but music. Music.

[Parks]

Correct.

[Mark]

Got it.

[Parks]

You're speaking anomalies.

[Corey]

There's a bunch of people who are Gibbs.

[Mark]

I mean, I think a lot of people are. Are just leaning on their music.

[Joe Budden]

But at the center of our conversation was, can you find success? Leaning on. Leaning on.

[Parks]

Y' all are talking about people.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you can.

[Parks]

Yes, you can.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you can.

[Parks]

Success is relative there.

[Mark]

Well, Kendrick again, probably the. The most successful rapper in the last.

[Parks]

Year or two by far.

[Mark]

Leaning on all music.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Success ain't relative in it.

[Parks]

In this one, I did, but I disagree with you.

[Mark]

You don't think he's leaning on music.

[Corey]

What I don't love about this argument is that we're.

[Joe Budden]

We're.

[Corey]

I feel like we're putting too much on Cardi in that I don't necessarily look at her as like, a pure musician to begin with. True.

[Mark]

That's a great point.

[Parks]

That's a great point.

[Corey]

You know what I mean? Like, we're castrating her, you know, for doing what she does. She's a social media star that used music to advance that.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Corey]

I agree with her. So why are we judging all rappers by what Cardi does?

[Parks]

And those rappers don't generate the revenue that Cardi does. So other comes into play with that facts. That's just a fact. I know we're about two weeks from this album.

[Mark]

I'm still feeling good about my prediction.

[Joe Budden]

What was your prediction again?

[Corey]

I think she'd do it too.

[Mark]

I think she did two, two, two, 50.

[Corey]

She would do two and a quarter.

[Mark]

Yeah. I said between two and 250.

[Parks]

Two, 250.

[Mark]

And y' all said I was crazy at the time.

[Parks]

Not me. I agree with that.

[Mark]

I'm gonna rewind.

[Joe Budden]

Well, now, mine wasn't far from you. I said between 150 and 180.

[Corey]

I think pure speculation and star power will get her to two.

[Mark]

No, I'm gonna rewind, y'. All.

[Joe Budden]

I think whatever she's doing with Apple will get her to two.

[Corey]

I feel like there's gonna be more antics and too between now before down there. Yeah.

[Mark]

Which is why I said she's gonna get to 2, 250, because people were saying like, oh, it's gonna be with 1, 150. They were comparing her to, you know, what clips did. I'm like, she gonna do. Or even what Drake did last.

[Corey]

It's gonna be a Sabrina Carpenter song or some on there. Some. Some like that where it's like, oh, we're not even talking crazy conversation.

[Mark]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Budden]

Like, yeah, you can fly with a Sabrina Carpenter song. Absolutely.

[Corey]

You could.

[Joe Budden]

You could.

[Corey]

You absolutely couldn't.

[Joe Budden]

Could. And then. Then it looks different. Then you reached. You reached for the flop.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure, right? It could happen.

[Joe Budden]

We'll see. Like I said, we, we, we. Not far. We. Not far from it.

[Corey]

I'm not sure that anybody from her camp or the labels camp gives a About longevity or quality of music. As long as they get an amazing first week and a return on their product. I don't know if they give a.

[Joe Budden]

Man put wap on the album.

[Corey]

I think it is.

[Parks]

It is on album.

[Mark]

They said it's going to be on there.

[Joe Budden]

Boss man dlo. I can't name what most a bunch of people that had a bigger year than him last year leaned on the music.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I could give a bunch of examples on people that you barely heard a word from Big X. Big X to plug. Yeah, you're right.

[Mark]

You got it.

[Joe Budden]

One of my favorite little strip club. What's my name? Big boogs or some. I still don't know nothing about that. All I know is anytime I go outside, he keep one for you out there and they're gonna play it. It's music.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Don't let. Don't let the music industry fool you into thinking that music is even less valuable than what they're trying to make it. It's a trick marriage, yo.

[Corey]

Don't let the music. Music industry confuse you to think that everybody in it is musicians.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Like, yeah, they're not.

[Parks]

And everybody different, too.

[Corey]

That has historically been the case. There was like the Monkeys and back in the 60s that were like pop TV stars or whatever that put out albums.

[Joe Budden]

It's always been, hey, with a monkey. Yeah.

[Corey]

Like these things have existed since the beginning of time.

[Parks]

California races.

[Corey]

California.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I like them too.

[Parks]

I used to watch this.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. I like most of the people that the music industry puts out. That's not musicians, too. I like them. They normally are the ones with the best writing camp. The best writing.

[Corey]

The best everything.

[Joe Budden]

I like a lot of that. Hey, that's what lets me know. I mean, that led to my revelation and learning that most of y' all didn't like our Return of the map out there.

[Parks]

A lot of people don't.

[Corey]

A lot of people hate that.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't even know so many people hated that.

[Parks]

I didn't know that either.

[Joe Budden]

They hate that record.

[Parks]

They hate that.

[Corey]

I love that.

[Joe Budden]

How could you hate Return.

[Mark]

It's a polarizing song because people either love it or hate it.

[Parks]

I don't understand how the people hate it.

[Corey]

What about, this is how we do it. How do we feel?

[Parks]

Yeah, they hate it. I didn't know that either. To listen to hate that one.

[Corey]

You really cut your own face.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I like this two songs. Wow.

[Mark]

This is how we do it. I actually liked until white people got a hold of it to, like, mainstream pop got a hold of it.

[Corey]

So you liked it for a week?

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't hate the song. I don't hate the song. I hate that 20 years later when I go certain places, I hear, no.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, he's absolutely right. I was just having this talk with somebody about trying to figure out my New Year's Eve plans this year and if we're gonna do out the country again.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

And anytime that I ended up out the country at the wrong timeshare.

[Corey]

Oh, look, we did it.

[Mark]

This is how we do it.

[Joe Budden]

This is how we do it. They take some of my Shaggy. They take some of my favorite songs and turn it. Just whitewash it into oblivion.

[Mark]

And that's what I said.

[Parks]

They do, like, another version of it. No, they don't play the actual song. But, I mean, it's a pop song that went crazy. You're gonna hear Wayne Wonder. Yeah, I've seen you're dropping piece of.

[Corey]

Chicken on the floor and, like, you wash it off to get the. The off and still try to eat it. Don't taste the same.

[Parks]

How long was it on the culture?

[Corey]

More than five seconds.

[Parks]

Oh, oh. All right. Hold up a wash. Paprika Opp.

[Joe Budden]

Sound different at the Cabo Time share with all the white people than it did on Farmers Boulevard.

[Parks]

I've seen the same happen, though, where a group of, like, black people who not really into rock will play the certain rock songs that you just think of.

[Joe Budden]

Those records do the same shit.

[Parks]

Those are the songs that they think are just. That's a good point.

[Mark]

The songs.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's a great point.

[Mark]

And if white people be like, I don't like that no more. I'm good with it. They don't fuck with it no more because we like it.

[Parks]

I'm good with that.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, and let me rebut your point. There's no dance floor in the world where adding a bunch of black people to it ruined the song. Fault.

[Parks]

I'm not saying ruins.

[Joe Budden]

That didn't happen. Yo, what we saying? All of them white people dance the opp.

[Parks]

It hits different now. You don't like the song no more, though. Yo, they don't have the same hit, dog. They might look at us on Team Spirit and be like, the same.

[Corey]

There's some dude that looks like Drew Ski in the skit with the country slap. Come on. In the square dance. I squared the way they wanted to.

[Parks]

That's possible. Work the other way around, man.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think Smells Like Teen Spirit is one of them. It's one of what is one of them? Where, like, you're saying it worked the other way around. I just don't see that.

[Corey]

I think.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think white people see us moving. It smells like team spirit and be like, oh, you're ruining it.

[Corey]

No. Well, I think that the way that we all. I think humanity dances.

[Joe Budden]

Joe's crazy.

[Corey]

I think humanity dance chances to journey the same way.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

There's some records that exceed that journey.

[Corey]

We all do it the same.

[Parks]

Joe is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Joe is crazy.

[Corey]

But you get some. Like, I'm crazy about some nuanced. It might be different. Some country.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

What we gonna do to Teen Spirit versus what? Them white people going off beat, getting poked by pins. Oh, no.

[Corey]

You jump on. White people jump and push on me.

[Mark]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. You know, a record. All right, I got here. Here's one. Here's one that I might choose the whites on the dance floor.

[Parks]

You crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Jump around.

[Mark]

Jump around.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. We can't with them.

[Parks]

With that House of no.

[Corey]

As bad as we jump. When it comes to dancing, we jump.

[Mark]

All right. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's your. You one. When Jump around. Come on, move. Let them have.

[Corey]

You better only get this far off the floor.

[Joe Budden]

No, y' all got it. Nah, that's. They move. Get out the way. You better not be around no white person when Jump around. Come on. Oh, man. Yo, you stupid. Oh, God. That's. They. They got it.

[Parks]

That's like a little John.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

Is that our, though?

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Parks]

Is that our.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Parks]

I think that's middle of the road. I don't know. Jump around.

[Joe Budden]

We love jumping around, too. I know.

[Parks]

I think it's a middle of the road.

[Mark]

Yeah, that might be a jump ball. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You think they might love it more than us?

[Mark]

That's bird and magic.

[Parks]

I think they do love it more than us. That's bird and magic, yo.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Parks]

I think they love it more. No, Everlast got him up. Timeless.

[Corey]

Do they play at the. The Boston Arena? Yes, they do.

[Mark]

They do.

[Corey]

That's right. That's their main.

[Parks]

If that's hip hop national anthem.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Jump around is their hip hop.

[Parks]

Yeah, that might be. I don't know if that's ours.

[Joe Budden]

They don't know four bars from that record.

[Parks]

You crazy. You are crazy.

[Corey]

The white girl bars, they know the first bars. Yeah.

[Parks]

Pack it up.

[Joe Budden]

Pack it up.

[Parks]

Are you crazy?

[Joe Budden]

Of the whole crew about get up, stand up, come on, throw your hands up if you got that feeling, Jump across.

[Parks]

They know it. They know it. You crazy.

[Joe Budden]

They definitely the Heineken in the end too. Black people, y'. All. Y' all better move by the time I get to. I came to get down. I came to get down. You about to get on your ass. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show. Brides pitch. All right. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right can get you paid. So don't miss out on any of the excitement this season on prize picks, where it's good to be right. Thank God. G Spin sat the Cowboys running back on the bench last night.

[Corey]

I did too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that was close. You had them. That was. That boy was about to go for three touchdowns. Yeah, he had 20 points on that. Woo. Thank the lord. All right. We had a football game two nights ago. We had a football game last night. We got a football game tomorrow. We got football games tomorrow. We are officially back. How does it feel? Let me get the round of applause feel. Round of applause. What?

[Parks]

It's the best time of the year, right?

[Corey]

Don't call me on those Sundays.

[Parks]

I already told shorty. Hey, yo, you being ignored.

[Joe Budden]

So just know football and the fall. New York fall. We lit with my girl in the kitchen. Get your ass in the kitchen while I watch this game, girl. The no, it feels good. It's a good time. Listen, prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less on two to six players, stat projections. And if you get your picks right, you could cash in. And the Joe Button Antoine picks of the week goes as follows. Give us Bijan Robinson for more than 21 receive 21 total receiving yards. Give us Lamar Jackson for more than 46 rushing yards, easy. Give us Ashton Genty for more than 67 rushing yards and Austin Eckler for more. More than 49 rushing and receiving yards. Sound shaky?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If you download the app right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. So good luck to all participants out there and run your game. How'd y' all feel about that game the other night?

[Corey]

It was great until the.

[Parks]

The break to the thunder and lightning happened.

[Joe Budden]

Real, real really great.

[Parks]

Till I had his fumble.

[Joe Budden]

But, you know.

[Mark]

But what, what about the ejection at the beginning of the game?

[Corey]

That was crazy. It was crazy too. Cuz they didn't see the Dac spit first.

[Mark]

First. Yeah, he did.

[Joe Budden]

That's the only difference. Spinning on somebody for sure. For sure.

[Mark]

So what's the appropriate punishment for that? I've hearing people say they want a suspension. Not just the ejection, but they want a suspension. They want.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's best for the Eagles if he's suspended.

[Mark]

What did he do?

[Joe Budden]

He's a young. He's a young star player. They're going to be in an important game later where they'll need him.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And they'll need him to know better than that. This game they won anyway. But immediately after, he sounded remorseful, he sounded like somebody. He got a text, he got a call from somebody. Yo, that won't happen again. Immature of me. Yada yada. He said all the right things.

[Corey]

Yeah. He's been through shit before, so. But this isn't his first rodeo.

[Mark]

Spitting on somebody's just crazy to me. That wouldn't even occur to me to do in a sporting contest.

[Parks]

Yeah, you know better.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Is that the most disrespectful thing somebody could do to you? Yes, pretty much.

[Parks]

Yes, pretty much.

[Mark]

Yeah. I can't think of anything worse. I was trying last night. Trying to think anything worse.

[Corey]

And again, maybe he thought Dak was trying to spit on him. I'll shoot with a little bit of bail.

[Parks]

But you over there, you're over there. If I spit this way and you're over there. You walk up to where we face to face and you spit on my chest. It is a very big deal difference. And I hate that people are trying to equate the two. Well, Dax bit first. Fam, you over there.

[Corey]

And he is on him.

[Parks]

So yeah, we talking.

[Corey]

I don't think it bails him out completely.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think this is. No bell is the most disrespectful thing, but I think it's on the list with the most disrespectful things.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Outside of getting crazy crazy. I think it's up there.

[Joe Budden]

It's included in. In physical violence. That's assault.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah, it's assault. There are a few things that. There are. There are very few things that would make me just like like punch somebody who didn't swing on me first. But I think spitting on me, I think that'd be the one. Yeah, that would be the one.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I can't tell you how I'm gonna react until I speak to your doctor.

[Parks]

Just in case.

[Joe Budden]

If you as healthy as me, then I'll be mad. But if you got some or if you got some, then you just let the beef for life. The beef is on for life now, dude. Them that know they got some shit and be in the hood doing, ugh. Them niggas is nasty. They are disgusting. Ugh. Last night I ended up watching my girl's too into gossip.

[Corey]

Your girl, right?

[Parks]

Your girl, right.

[Mark]

Just her right?

[Joe Budden]

Short story. Really, really, really short. I'll try to finish this in 40 seconds, maybe 30 even. She perusing the Internet on her phone. She started laughing hysterically at something and says, yo, apparently there's a show called for My man where women. Where women seen every episode, yo. She said, there's a show called for My man where women are in love with the guy and doing anything for him and they end up in jail. So of course I grabbed the remote.

[Mark]

You would love it.

[Joe Budden]

I grabbed the Apple remote. I go search.

[Mark]

It's on TV one.

[Joe Budden]

I go to Apple, I search for my man. They asked me if I want to download some app that I never even heard of before. Philo. Philo, some shit. I look at her, she says, I would do it. I hit connect and I hit episode one on like season six. The young lady in the 90s went out to Freaknik with her friends with no money. She didn't have no food, no hotels and on. And when they got there, she got out the car and started twerking naturally.

[Parks]

Sounds about right.

[Joe Budden]

The popping dope boy saw her, came, got a little hotel, got some food, she got some food, got her some food. She thought they were dating then. So she started flying out to see him. Even after Freaknik for three years. Then he tried to put her on the strip to sell some pussy, right on Metro Ave.

[Parks]

He gotta run that.

[Joe Budden]

Ran up the tab and now she's still in the doc, she's still in the show, and she don't look like life was great. Even after the dude left. She in the show, looking like somebody who went to Freaknik with no money and no hotel and no nothing. No, not a thing. I can't say what I'm saying.

[Parks]

Anyway, did he put on the Strip?

[Joe Budden]

He tried to get her the.

[Parks]

She was already on the strip. What the are we talking About.

[Joe Budden]

So apparently that's grooming.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Wait, what?

[Joe Budden]

That's grooming.

[Parks]

If you get out of a car, you start popping that thing to get some things, and then you get them things. You get those things based on you.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no, that's assuming that you know why she's popping that thing. She's popping that thing just because she felt like popping that thing.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Got a dope, boy.

[Parks]

Because her stomach was touching her back.

[Joe Budden]

He talking about you can't date somebody for three years and then try to get him to sell. You can't.

[Corey]

It's frowned upon.

[Mark]

It's a bad thing.

[Joe Budden]

It's fr. It's frowned upon. It's frowned upon.

[Parks]

Full of.

[Joe Budden]

Look at y'. All. You can't do that.

[Parks]

Okay, have you said something?

[Corey]

I'm telling you, y' all are some savages.

[Joe Budden]

No, we not that newer Couch is. They get nasty.

[Mark]

Nigga.

[Joe Budden]

It take a lot of guts to ask that. I don't even talk about that.

[Parks]

That with the bitches I talk to.

[Mark]

That sound pussy.

[Joe Budden]

It's like taboo.

[Mark]

So how do you think they start selling anyway?

[Parks]

For the nigga?

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Mark]

You have to ask. Well, tell them.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Business.

[Corey]

Listen, you got business proposals?

[Mark]

I'm just saying, she thinks she dating you. Y' all kicking it. You going back and forth from city to city. You pop out the car, dance one time, and then two months later, you go from being a boyfriend to her pimp. Like, dawg, like.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm not saying.

[Parks]

Hold up, hold up.

[Mark]

No, I'm saying that's how that shit be going.

[Parks]

Is she dating him? Pre pop that pussy? No, no, no.

[Mark]

But popping that pussy is different than brick bread or fake dead. Like, it's a whole different game.

[Parks]

Not much. What I'm saying is. Yo, dawg, if you dating somebody for three years and you proposed a threesome, some people feel like that's disrespectful.

[Corey]

I thought you were.

[Mark]

Yo, look.

[Corey]

I thought you were about to try to sophisticated speak your way.

[Parks]

Into if I. I've been flying you back and forth.

[Joe Budden]

Some little prudish white girls, yo.

[Parks]

I've been flying you back and forth for three years. Shit ain't the same no more. I'm down on my luck. Or you ran up a tab. Yeah, no, I'm down on my luck. You riding or you riding?

[Mark]

Mm.

[Parks]

You down with us or you down with.

[Joe Budden]

You can't ask a girl that.

[Parks]

You gotta pay some of that back. Mama, you in the bread right now.

[Joe Budden]

You can't ask yourself.

[Parks]

Yo, you on the Team, for real.

[Joe Budden]

You can't ask.

[Parks]

You down with us.

[Joe Budden]

And if you and your lady. If you and your lady live together and y' all down on hard times, and y' all sitting at that little kitchen nook and. And y' all having them. Y' all pulling the mail out, you still can't say it. You gotta hope that she just. You gotta hope that she know what. What time it is. Damn. Ain't no money coming nowhere right now. Yo, hey, hey. There's no hope.

[Parks]

Yo, you in shape, yo, they killing on only fans over there. Yo, bro, listen.

[Joe Budden]

Now, don't say that. She get on there and start killing too much.

[Parks]

Going.

[Joe Budden]

She going. She don't need you no more.

[Corey]

Anyway, this sounds like a great show.

[Joe Budden]

Thanks for the recommendation for my man. It is if you don't have nothing to do.

[Mark]

Me and my wife watch it when she was playing.

[Parks]

Let me ask you a question. Did she sell attraction?

[Joe Budden]

It's funny.

[Mark]

Did.

[Parks]

Did she go outside?

[Joe Budden]

Old girl? Yeah, in the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's not right, right? That don't.

[Mark]

They don't prove your point like this.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, look at the manosphere right now. Look what you try to light. The manosphere, bro.

[Parks]

That is right.

[Corey]

Manosphere caught a win.

[Parks]

She voluntarily went, too, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, how far are you. Hey, my last question on this. How far you think you are from, like, man, it's fear.

[Parks]

I don't know what that is.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you do.

[Mark]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you do.

[Parks]

For their family.

[Joe Budden]

You lying ass is ground zero. Speak to it.

[Parks]

Sell drugs every day for their family.

[Corey]

Uhhuh.

[Parks]

Commit crimes every single day to put food on the table for their family. Sure. So if I hit a lick and the connect is gone, guess what else gotta connect?

[Corey]

A day job.

[Mark]

It's always a possibility, right?

[Corey]

Electrician, man. It's a good game.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all want to talk about Drew Ski and Whiteface?

[Corey]

Let's do it.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Kill him.

[Mark]

Flip out, because the whites are upset.

[Corey]

What were you gonna get, Pierce?

[Mark]

Oh, yeah, because. Right, I got. I didn't really pay much attention to it. I saw Imani send it to our group chat. Yeah, he just talking about how funny it was.

[Joe Budden]

It was.

[Corey]

It was funny.

[Mark]

It was funny. And then Pierce Moore gave me this morning, like, hey, can you come on Monday to talk about this? Because is this racist?

[Joe Budden]

Pierce, go away. Right, that part. God damn it. I know Mark don't want to say. That's his man.

[Corey]

Yeah. Energy. It's a gig's gig, you know?

[Parks]

Clear.

[Mark]

Better than gorilla pimping like.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Depending.

[Parks]

On who the gorilla.

[Joe Budden]

Oh. Oh.

[Mark]

Ish. What the.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he going out tonight. Hey, that boy outside tonight.

[Mark]

I don't want him to go outside. Now.

[Parks]

You need to sit your ass down now, my nigga.

[Mark]

You need supervision.

[Parks]

Go home, bruh.

[Mark]

Go to the house, boy.

[Parks]

That's funny, son. My man called me because my man.

[Mark]

No you.

[Parks]

You know. You know what I mean?

[Mark]

No, Cory know, yo, it's gonna be a drinking game today.

[Joe Budden]

Cory do know, know.

[Parks]

My man owns a nas. My man owns a NASCAR team.

[Joe Budden]

This.

[Corey]

You're a legend. Is.

[Joe Budden]

You're an absolute legend. Go on. Come on.

[Parks]

Your man on the nas, you got.

[Joe Budden]

To be bum in your circle. This man is always. You know my man is an astronaut, right? Yeah, your man don't with your little podcast, yo.

[Parks]

No, but my man, he's the first black owner of a NASCAR team. And he was like, yo, I couldn't have did that shit better myself. Like, yo, this is spot on of how these motherfuckers act. Yeah. And he was like, yo, everybody's mad saying that if it was the reverse and somebody dressed up in blackface, then we would have a problem.

[Corey]

Yes, because it's different.

[Parks]

It's 1,000% different.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's why it was tough for me to even wanna waste time on this. Like, I don't feel like we talking to the idiots that think it's the.

[Corey]

Same, but, yeah, I don't think our.

[Joe Budden]

Audience, if we have to be responsible about it, Mark.

[Corey]

Yeah, well, yeah, tell us why it's not the same.

[Joe Budden]

Why is it not the same?

[Mark]

Because there's a power imbalance. There's a historical difference. Blackface has a very particular meaning and a very particular power in the United States, which has been attached to just Jim Crows, slavery, oppression, and reinforcing white supremacy.

[Joe Budden]

Take that, van.

[Corey]

Yo, I love that we wouldn't have did that in 15 seconds.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, man, you lucky. My over here talking about Adele and.

[Parks]

N. That was funny, though.

[Joe Budden]

It was funny, man.

[Parks]

And whoever did that makeup was crazy. That was funny.

[Joe Budden]

And you know what?

[Mark]

I was watching Mix. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Actually, as much saying senses y' all are making on this, let's put a pause to. Let's put a pause to y' all.

[Parks]

Making sense to logic.

[Joe Budden]

Because Theo Bomb was mad and he said. And this is about the second or third time he done got mad at it. And he said, hey, maybe it's time for me to go get the makeup and a Jheri curl. I just want to say, do that word. Don't tweet it.

[Mark]

Just get to it.

[Joe Budden]

Just go do it.

[Mark]

Hey, just do it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. Hey, Theo Vaughn, please go get makeup. Hey, do it on a stream now.

[Parks]

You should do it.

[Joe Budden]

Get makeup in a Jerry curl doing.

[Parks]

In Detroit or Chicago.

[Joe Budden]

Some watermelon or some Popeyes fried chicken, right? Yo, I think. Hey, Theo von. If you did that, that might be even funnier than what Drew Ski did. And I would love to see it, man. Please, please don't let good sense and good sense having folks deter you from doing what needs to be done. You right. If Drew Ski could do it.

[Mark]

The funny. The funny shit about the Drew Ski shit is that he had people believing he had the. He was engaging with the real white people out there. They thought he was real. He said, I smoked a cigarette. Barbara thought that he body that, yo. Oh, my God. I know.

[Joe Budden]

This idea had been floated around. I would love to see a Drew Ski sketch comedy show.

[Mark]

Yes, absolutely.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

It's time, though. Yeah, yeah, it's time too. Great at these.

[Corey]

I mean, kind of does it with the YouTube channel, but, like, I could. I would like to see a real, like, production, I guess. Although his shit is produced too, so.

[Joe Budden]

You know, his phone gotta be blown.

[Parks]

Up with people saying that.

[Mark]

Yeah, gotta be.

[Joe Budden]

That shit was really funny. Shout. Shout out to Drewski's on my thing and Theo Vaughn, please. Yo, sleep on this.

[Parks]

You gonna be.

[Joe Budden]

Sleep. No, sleep on it, man. Give it a. Give it some thought. Take it to your team. Do that shit. Makeup and a Jheri curl and watermelon and chicken and Popeyes and chicken. Fried chicken.

[Parks]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Joe Budden]

Anyways, what else needs our attention?

[Mark]

It's a couple things.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, let's do it.

[Parks]

All right, Come on.

[Joe Budden]

I'm here. I'm here today.

[Mark]

One of them. I thought that was interesting and I wanted to know y' all take on it.

[Joe Budden]

Sure.

[Mark]

Was the Sierra Future thing or really it's about Ciara and her child with future. They TMZ made a big report of it yesterday that while she was there with her children, I believe at the US Open. Is that what it was?

[Corey]

Mm.

[Mark]

Her son with future now has the last name Wilson. I saw the Internet does what the Internet does. Some people are strongly in favor of it, saying if he's not a good father, he's not present or whatever. She should be able to change the name. Others said that's the dad. You know who the dad is? That is my dad. Change. You know, don't ever change the name. I'm not saying future's not a good father. I'm just saying that's the debate people are having. I don't know nothing about future's like.

[Joe Budden]

I'd love to hear where you fall. I like when you bring these topics in because I get to hear your opinion.

[Mark]

Yeah. I mean first.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Come on, Mark.

[Mark]

I've seen you use the strategy before with Flip the. I think if the father is alive and around unless some egregious shit has happened, I would not change the name. Unless the father has denied paternity or fatherhood or just says, I don't want to do with this kid. I probably wouldn't change the name. I would. You know what I mean? That's some shit we all gotta agree on. I know she still has his name as like a middle name kinda now and then Ed Wilson at the end. I just don't think it's necessary. It wouldn't be a choice that I would make. I wouldn't want somebody to make that choice for me. But other people are like, it's her right to do it. And if he's not active and he doesn't want to be around and can go do it, I probably would do it even if he wasn't active. But that's just me. What do y' all think?

[Parks]

If you don't want to be around, you don't worry about what they doing with your kid. That's. I, I know it sound up, but got. If you don't want to be around, don't worry about it.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, but what if you do want to be around?

[Parks]

Okay, now you have a. Now there's an issue here. Then I'm talking about. I'm answering his point. If somebody don't want to be in the picture, then by all means. But if he wants to be in the picture, no, you don't change his fucking name, no matter what.

[Mark]

What if it's a.

[Parks]

What if you just trying to be in the picture, wants to be in the picture, trying to be a father, even if it ain't to the standard you want or whatever, that's his child.

[Mark]

I think that's the gray area. I agree with everything you just said, but I think that's the gray area for people. Sarah did an interview a little while back and they asked her what co parenting was like and she kind of like laughed it off. Almost like I don't get no help from him. What's the line where they've sunk low enough as a parent or as a co parent where you feel like you can change Your name without. Without the father's input. Because that's the question. Like, if you show up twice a year, do you change the name if you show up, you know, like you said, if it's not to your standard, but you're around, you change it. Like, how bad does it have to be for you to be like it? I'm not. You can't have his name no more.

[Parks]

For me, it gotta be. They out.

[Mark]

Completely out.

[Parks]

They gotta be out.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Parks]

Anything else?

[Joe Budden]

No. Okay.

[Parks]

They gotta be out.

[Mark]

Got you.

[Parks]

Like Anthony Edwards type out.

[Mark]

Got you. Ah, that's. Yeah, that's out.

[Corey]

Got it.

[Parks]

You got to be at that level.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. We had Anthony Edwards level. I'm all for it.

[Parks]

Anything else? He never was in. He didn't want to be in.

[Mark]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

For me, you could change the name. You can't change the blood.

[Parks]

Nah, that's still my name.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm agreeing with that. But I'm just saying for the mothers that feel like they can take it upon themselves and make this decision, no matter how the dad feels, for me, that kid grows up, that kid has my blood features, my DNA, my genes, you can call. You can name this little motherfucker whatever you want. At some point, my likeness is gonna come up in that house, and you should familiarize yourself with it. Even aspects that you don't aren't so fond of so you can know how to deal with it. And the best way for you to know how to deal with it is through real dad. And then if that's not an option, then stepdad.

[Parks]

Not just that. Yo, you gotta think about it. These are celebrities, so all of this stuff is documented in the Internet universe. This child is going to know who my dad is, read some of the discourse and dialogue that is taking place, and. And. And come up with some semblance of the truth. Right? I just think it's up to the two parents to allow this kid the. The ability to navigate. But the other side of that. The other side of that is the kids know who there, who ain't there. Let's say. Let's say.

[Mark]

And by the way, Sierra has full custody. By the way, we don't know the.

[Parks]

Level of parenting that future does with this kid. And that's very important to know. You said what I hear you said. I said we don't know the level of parenting that future does with this kid. I think that is very important to know in this conversation, but we don't. So we're.

[Joe Budden]

We're speculating.

[Parks]

We're speculating yeah, kids know who there and who not there, though.

[Joe Budden]

That kid gonna come in the house like this.

[Parks]

Kids don't always know the reason why.

[Joe Budden]

What you gonna do this? Oh, you go, you gave a little pretty last name that is in the upstairs drunk Rapid March madness now. Now what? Ain't no name gonna help.

[Parks]

I think. I think the name change is more so because like you said, the. The features, all of that is still gonna come out. You can't do nothing about that. But now you basically cutting off lineage at that point because again, my name, like, you just. You just ended that and made him somebody else's kid. Let me ask you a question. How would the world know that she's doing this?

[Mark]

So apparently, apparently she. It sounds like she did it a few years ago, but because she was at the US Open and they put the kids names in the print, his name was listed there as the last name. So she didn't like announce it. Okay. It's been happening for a few years. They're just saying the context matters. It wasn't like a stunt.

[Parks]

So did she do it or is she planning on doing it?

[Mark]

My understanding, again, we don't have all the information because she's not speaking on it directly is that it's been done. And so it's like Zaheer or whatever future's last name is, then Wilson.

[Parks]

Oh, two last names?

[Mark]

Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. But they're not hyphenated or anything like that, so. But Wilson is the last last name. N. You know, we don't stand for that. That's it. But I mean, it's tough though. I mean, again, like, if I see. I'm not saying this is Future Skate. I'm using an example. If I see you once a year, so what? I'm still around, the kid is still familiar with who I am. I'm such a low bar man, I wouldn't do it. But I ain't that mad about it if you come around once a year. And on top of that, like, even when it comes to getting passports, I say that to say you still need the parent permission.

[Parks]

Yeah, Both signatures get a passport, they circumvent that.

[Mark]

I didn't know about that. I know that you still need it even if the father's not around. So I say that to say that it still should be some level of respect.

[Joe Budden]

How would y' all feel as a man putting your last name on somebody that's not yours? Okay. That's not yours.

[Mark]

Oh, If I spend 364 days a year with him, yeah, I'd feel great.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Yeah. I wouldn't mind doing that. I'd feel great.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know that I would.

[Corey]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know that.

[Parks]

I don't know about that.

[Mark]

If it's not a relationship, the relationship.

[Joe Budden]

Is not all it's about.

[Mark]

To me, I'll tell you why.

[Parks]

And it's bigger than that. The relationship shit don't be as cut and dry as the world make it seem.

[Mark]

But here's the. I agree with that, too. But here's the thing, particularly. You have multiple kids, right? So if I have three biological kids and one step kid, and I'm the one raising this other person, this is his unit. Your father doesn't come around. It's like some Will Smith on Fresh Prince shit, right? At some point, I want you to feel like part of this fully. And so part of the last name thing is more so that you don't always look like the outsider when we go to school, when we register for things that you got. You see what I'm saying? So I'm just saying there isn't enough.

[Parks]

That gets embarrassing. It doesn't.

[Mark]

No, no. Sometimes that falls with the person, but the parent, not the kid. The kid don't usually care about that. That may fall with the parent. The parent depends on what class level you at in the hood. It don't matter because we all got different names. But if you at one of these private, fancy schools that they at and everybody's a Wilson and you're in Akbar, that shit might fuck you up. I'm just picking a random name.

[Parks]

It depends. Like one of my homegirls, her daughter's got different last names. And she said one day, the teacher, she had left something in the class and the teacher chasing her out. And the lady was yelling, I don't wanna say the name, but let's just say the daughter's last name is Johnson and her last name is Smith. And they like, Ms. Johnson, Ms. Johnson. And she like, yo, I'm just walking. I'm walking. And I just hit him saying another name. And she said. By the time I turned around, I realized she was calling me. She said, yo, that's not my last name. I was totally embarrassed as the parent. She was embarrassed, right? You get what I'm saying? That your daughter's got different last names and they go to this school and it's. It's.

[Joe Budden]

Damn, yo, you was embarrassed. That had to be hard. Had to be tougher than the other option, which would be not being on earth. Yo, man. Wow. Yo, yo, man. Some tough feelings. That's gotta be tougher than never fucking seeing the planet. Yo, what are y' all talking about? Yo, if I'm dead, I wouldn't give a. Let me shut up while I say I'm toxic.

[Parks]

I see it from both angles.

[Mark]

Not changing. No, that's all I'm saying. I can see. I can understand why somebody would feel this way. I can see it. But again, I think my only frustration is that some of these dudes that don't come around to take care of their kids, that don't come around to show up for parties, don't show around for parent teacher night, don't show up for nothing else. When they find out a name got changed or somebody took a photo or went to a daddy door to dance, they lose their fucking mind. Then they want to show up and get lawyers and do all. It's like you only show up for that disrespect, but you don't show up for none of this shit. Like you're not embarrassed to not take care of your kids.

[Joe Budden]

I still think that's their right. I still think that's their right.

[Corey]

I came up with a blended family.

[Mark]

Yo, y' all be.

[Parks]

Y' all be so one sided when it come to this shit. And we can't say it publicly because if that's the case. If that is the case.

[Mark]

Say it.

[Parks]

Nah, man, I'm cool. No, we talking. We have to stop. Pardon me. Pardon me.

[Joe Budden]

It's a big build up that you do. So we are waiting.

[Parks]

So the woman has all of these rights, right, with regards to the child. And the man has zero hustle. I think he's asking that the man has zero.

[Mark]

Is this a hypothetical or you just.

[Parks]

No, it's a literal hypothetical. However you want to take it. Y' all speak on y' all experiences oftentimes which are very, very limited in the broad scheme of things a lot of people are going through outside when it comes to co parenting or rights of a dad or a mom that don't go with y' all societal norms. And how is y' all be talking this that didn't experience and that should be fake for a lot of men out here and a lot of women out here. So, like what? What you mean?

[Mark]

Yes, women.

[Parks]

The woman don't gotta give you your name, period. They don't have to give you. You don't control that.

[Joe Budden]

No, you don't.

[Parks]

You don't control none of that. They don't gotta give you the last Name at all. That's a cool baby mom that gives you the last name. She's doing you a solid from that. From the rip. She decides to change it. Nigga, you don't have no say if she changes it.

[Joe Budden]

But is that wise of her?

[Parks]

Yes, it is. Because you can't financially abuse everybody out here in these streets. And so the point that I'm saying is y' all want men sometimes to not have say so when it come to certain shit. But when a man stands on the other side, it's shut up, nigga, this your kid.

[Mark]

Yeah, but that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I just said. What I said, when it comes to.

[Parks]

Money and other shit. Shut up, nigga.

[Mark]

That's your kid.

[Parks]

So that it should be shut up. But that's my kid when it comes to certain decisions.

[Mark]

But I want you to hear what I said though, right? Which was different.

[Parks]

No, it's not. To you or you.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah. You said indirect response. What I said. So it may seem that way to a listener. Yeah. I'm just saying again, I think it's complicated and I don't think we should go around changing names. And I think it does all this other long term damage. I was just, in addition to that as a caveat, saying that some of the men I see most outraged about shit like that, like that's disrespectful or that's embarrassing to me, aren't embarrassed to not be around the other three.

[Parks]

They won't buy a book bag.

[Mark]

That's all I'm saying. And I'm saying I just find that frustrating when those are the people speaking out. Now if it's people in other situations, that's different.

[Joe Budden]

If you do that, you deprive my fans family of the what? The definition of break the cycle. You. You deprive my family of the chance to break a cycle.

[Parks]

But to their argument, you, you, you. And that's the.

[Joe Budden]

But that shouldn't speak for my entire lineage and legacy. There's bad apples. Every family got them. So, I mean, you failed the family name. Okay, I had you though. So you with the right parenting can go and grow and fix all of this shit. And if we changing your last name.

[Parks]

I see your point, then I see your point.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that just is nuts to me a little bit.

[Mark]

Feels like an ego trip. Then it's like if you care that much about your family, the other way.

[Parks]

Feels like the both ways are ego trips. The other way is ego point them.

[Mark]

Out on both ends no, no. I'm saying in this particular case, again, in the case where I'm talking about the people. Again, I'm talking about the people who have been shitty fathers. But I want you to keep my name so you can clean up my legacy. If you care that much about your legacy.

[Joe Budden]

No, see, you're looking at that the wrong way.

[Mark]

I'm only talking about in the case of shitty father.

[Joe Budden]

Wait. The shitty father that's looking at it that way is, in my opinion, a selfless way to look at it. You not thinking about you. You thinking about everybody in your family. That's not just you. You thinking about the. The Johnsons before you, the Johnsons after you, the Johnsons from 50, 60, 70, 100 years.

[Mark]

Why are you.

[Parks]

I don't look at like some shitty fathers ain't thinking about none of that. Right?

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying in this example, I'm saying. Okay, an example. I'm saying the dad is feeling like I was a failure. I don't feel good about me, but I think my kid will have a better shot than me. And hopefully that will, you know, say.

[Parks]

Joe's a piece of.

[Joe Budden]

What they say anyway.

[Parks]

Say Joe's a piece of. But Joe's dad, Joe's granddad, Joe's lineage of buddenism were them. Was the. And that particular kid now can carry on that legacy and be a great person with the last name of Button. That one blip in their lineage was a blip. It shouldn't stop them carrying on the Button last name and achieving greatness.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I think that's crazy.

[Mark]

And I'm saying I don't necessarily disagree with that. And again, I hear his point. Yeah, I hear the point.

[Parks]

Definitely hear the point.

[Mark]

What I'm saying is if in this hypothetical, Joe piece of shit, right, he was raised by a Wilson who actually did all the work to make that kid great. Cause again, he's not around. He's a piece of shit, right? Yeah. So he was in the Wilson house getting to school. The Wilson person gave him the education, gave him the mentor and the training, and now he's a doctor.

[Parks]

That ain't come from Button.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So what?

[Mark]

And no.

[Joe Budden]

So what? Wait, so what?

[Mark]

I'm saying, I could see. I'm just saying I could see the other side of it. Again, I'm saying I could see why somebody would say, we raised you, we made you, and this is home for you. And so if everybody else in the house is a Wilson, I want you to be a Wilson, too.

[Joe Budden]

So then that's the ego play.

[Mark]

I don't think that's. No, it's to make the kid feel home, not because I want him.

[Parks]

It could be both. I get your point. I get it.

[Mark]

I'm not a kid.

[Parks]

I think it's a really. I think it's a really, really tough situation, and I could objectively look at it from both sides and see that both interests have points.

[Mark]

Closes out. Yeah, that was the closest thing.

[Parks]

I think when a kid gets older, they could make a more informed decision. And I think the kid should be the individual to make that decision.

[Joe Budden]

I know. Go stand in front of your real dad as an adult and say your whole name.

[Mark]

I can tell you this as somebody who met a daughter at 18, right? Her world would be a lot easier if she had my last name. But that man raised her for 18 years, and it would be unreasonable and unfair for me to want her to have my name, even though I'm proud of her and I love her because he is her father. He was the one who raised her. And so that's what I'm saying. I can only speak from my personal experience that it is.

[Parks]

And you've been on both sides, and.

[Mark]

That'S what I'm saying. So I'm just saying from my actual personal experience, like, it is. Like, it's complicated.

[Parks]

You know what?

[Joe Budden]

I put a lot more stock in nature than nurture. I think that's the disconnect we're having. Maybe I put a lot more stock in the nature part than the nurture part. Yeah.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Really? Oh, yes.

[Corey]

I think it's 50.

[Joe Budden]

50.

[Parks]

It's not 50.

[Mark]

50.

[Parks]

It's for me. Me neither. I think the nature part definitely matters. Like, if you got good genes, fam, and you grow up to be a genius, the nurture didn't make you the genius. It could have helped. It didn't give you the brain capacity that you got from your mother and your father.

[Joe Budden]

She gotta be a Lamar Hill, yo. Nah, we gotta switch that back. She gotta be a Lamar Hill.

[Parks]

Oh, man.

[Mark]

Yo, on a political note, real quick, just. No, no. 10 seconds. 10 seconds, 10 seconds. It's nothing heavy, nothing controversial. You're not gonna get canceled. Eric Adams has been offered. There's rumors. It's not officially confirmed, but Eric Adams has been offered to be the secretary of hud.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Mark]

That is very important.

[Parks]

Always get a nigga the housing job.

[Mark]

That's the first thing, right? They think anybody could just be in charge of public housing, right? Like, just make them in charge of hud, but the reason is to pull them out of the mailroom.

[Joe Budden]

They're trying to get him to step down.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's why I mention it. So for people that think that Mamdani has a cakewalk, it's gonna get a lot more difficult if Eric Adams takes this Trump job. And from what I'm hearing, Eric Adams wants to take this Trump job. So just know that this New York thing is not resolved. Because if it's Cuomo part two. If it's Cuomo, Donnie part two. And Republicans are voting cuz they're also gonna pull Curtis Lewis out and offer him a job too, potentially. And if that happens, well, he shouldn't be in there.

[Joe Budden]

He shouldn't be in there. I know that he's ahead of Adams right now.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's crazy.

[Joe Budden]

He shouldn't be in there. Right.

[Mark]

And Republicans gonna take Cuomo, especially if Trump is telling them to.

[Joe Budden]

I never had a political commercial work on me like it did yesterday when they pulled up. Hey, I don't know who's running against the mayor of Trenton, but hey, cooking his ass. Yo, that commercial came on. The mayor of Trenton is maga. The mayor of Trenton wants to raise New Jersey taxes from 6% to 10%. The mayor of Trenton wants to. They started throwing mad New Jersey facts out there. The mayor of Trenton wants to take away Medicaid for over 300,000 people.

[Parks]

You know how they voted before the mayor of Trenton?

[Joe Budden]

I was like, previously voted yes on. Wait. Whoever money is, he is a problem. He has got to go. Yo, imagine Jersey with a 10% sales tax. With a 10% sales tax in Jersey on closed groceries. They said in the commercial, clothes and groceries. I'm like, hey, the man Trenton.

[Mark]

Anyway, here more.

[Parks]

I ain't even from Trenton.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going out there and picking against. Now that I said it, the commercial gonna pop up on your TV. Oh. Anyway, let's get into KL2.

[Corey]

Let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do some KL2.

[Corey]

This has been intriguing to me, and I want to shout out Pablo Torres.

[Joe Budden]

I don't.

[Corey]

Why? Oh, cause he's riding a little bit. Are we doing that?

[Joe Budden]

No, not because of who he's ratting on. I'm cool with that.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

He says that his next case study may indeed be Jalen Brunson.

[Corey]

Oh, so I see.

[Joe Budden]

I thought that was Joe and I got. It didn't sound like one. He sounded very serious. So that's my only issue with him. But why is that an issue? It's my business now mind your business. Mind your business.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

The Knicks ain't had no success here. You come after you got fired from espn, wanting to bring back investigative journalism.

[Corey]

Doing a bang up job.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you're doing. It's amazing. He's doing amazing.

[Corey]

He's killing it.

[Mark]

I don't, I don't believe.

[Corey]

No, let's lay it out.

[Joe Budden]

Let's tell them what happened.

[Parks]

70 Dunkin Donuts.

[Joe Budden]

You should. They gave me Eli Manning.

[Mark]

So sports journalist Pablo Torres did an investigation that looked into Kawhi Leonard's contract situation with the LA Clippers. The revelation that he's made or the allegation that he's made is effectively that Kawhi Leonard signed with the Clippers for the max deal, but then also had a backdoor contract deal that circumvents the salary cap by taking a deal with a company that Clippers owner Steve Ballmer has deep investments. And initially they said 24 million. Then I think the number now as of today was moved up to 48 million partly because of 28 stocks.

[Parks]

28.

[Mark]

I'm sorry, it was 28. And it went to 48 because of catch on the stock options.

[Joe Budden]

But he never, it's reported he's never been paid from the stock.

[Mark]

Yes, but I'm just saying that was the. Today they just added the stock options to the conversation, which made the potential number higher. And if this were true, it would be a bombshell in the NBA. And just to be clear, these were allegations that were made when he first signed because. Because his uncle, Kawhi Leonard's uncle made a lot of demands of the team. He wanted a house, he wanted a private plane, he wanted guaranteed advertisements, he wanted team ownership, things that all circumvented the salary cap. The NBA investigated it back then, but found out that there were no violations. They didn't give him any of it. But now they're saying, wait a minute, he got a empty. He got a no show job where he got signed to be like a spokesperson for something and never went to work and still click.

[Parks]

Company didn't exist, did it?

[Corey]

No, it existed.

[Mark]

It existed.

[Corey]

It may or may not have been a scam to begin with.

[Parks]

Okay, that's what I was talking about.

[Mark]

And that's the. But that's the difference, right? It's the question is, is this a fake company designed to pay Kawhi Leonard backdoor or did Ballmer get hosed himself got it.

[Corey]

Which he may have.

[Mark]

And that's what Mark Cuban, who came.

[Corey]

To his defense was, so to say, I Watched. I watched that episode as well. That was. That's a really good episode. If you want to Watch San Pablo YouTube page, it's him and Mark Cuban going at it. Mark Cuban was essentially defending Ballmer as much as he could, even though he's like, listen, he's my opponent. He owns a rival team. I am also a billionaire, though, and I can see how he may have gotten caught up in a scam. And he kind of was putting a lot of the blame on Kawhi's uncle.

[Mark]

Yes, smart.

[Corey]

Because in part, his uncle is not a registered agent or any of the certified agent or anything like that. So he basically has the ability to do this deal and really not be any repercussions for it. He's like. He's actually smart. He wasn't trying to make him seem like a bad guy. He just made it seem like, listen, he didn't have anything to lose, basically, by scamming this $50 and taking his cut. $50 million and taking a cut. It's intriguing, man.

[Mark]

It is. It is. I think the other piece of this that we have to remember, though, is that there is a gray area here, because sometimes when you go to a city, for example, in Philadelphia, Tyrese Maxey has a deal. The team is often sponsored by things like car companies, insurance companies, and those companies want to give deals to players who play for the team. And if you leave that team, you lose the deal because we're the official sponsor of the Sixers. So sometimes it looks like a secret deal to circumvent the salary cap, but sometimes it's just the natural progression of being a star on a team in a city where companies are there and in the same galaxy. So it could be. I don't. I don't know who's lying and who's telling the truth, but I wouldn't assume the worst, and I wouldn't assume the best.

[Parks]

I ain't mad at it. I'm sorry, bro.

[Mark]

I don't like it. If I don't like it, if it's bad.

[Corey]

I tell you what I don't like. I've never liked the advertisements on the jerseys, in the. In the courts.

[Parks]

I hate that.

[Corey]

But I think the. This is a reason to prove that dislike. It wasn't like some weird dislike. They are the official logo shit on all their shit Aspire, whatever it is.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

So that kind of seems to be the problem to begin with.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

I don't care about players getting their money. I want them to get every dollar they can. I don't give a fuck about that. But I do want fairness. And my concern is some owners have the ability to make better backdoor deals than others. And if you're in a major city, you have more.

[Parks]

So that's why niggas want to play over.

[Mark]

But that fucks it up if you live in Cleveland or Denver or. I get it. He's like, I don't give a fuck.

[Parks]

Listen, find a way to pay me. I disagree. Yeah, I think that all of these owners are billionaires.

[Joe Budden]

They are.

[Parks]

All of them. So I don't give a fuck if I'm the owner of this team in this small market or a team in a large market. We still are billionaires with unlimited resources. And sometimes it might benefit the small market billionaire to make these deals, because then we could get the major stars to come to these smaller markets.

[Mark]

They're illegal or against the rules. See, yes.

[Parks]

These niggas got billions.

[Mark]

I just want to say something illegal.

[Parks]

You just told me a couple weeks ago, you can't become a billionaire without some immorality, a whole lot of it.

[Mark]

I just want fairness in sports.

[Joe Budden]

This conversation is not reserved for the small market team. And this is the direct rebut to fairness in sports. They had the meeting, all the small market owners was like, it's unfair. It's not right. They added the second apron. So now the playing. The playing field is even. But the playing field will never be. It will never be even because Steve Ballmer's money is longer than everybody's. All y' all from the Bucks?

[Mark]

Yeah, but it didn't come from.

[Joe Budden]

It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter.

[Parks]

That's not true.

[Joe Budden]

The niggas that own the Mets, they money, they gonna be able to do things differently than the Rockies do it. You'll never. Nothing you could do about it.

[Mark]

But I'm okay with that. If it's like, I can pay more into the luxury tax because I'm richer, that gives you an advantage because you got more money. I'm cool with that. I'm saying don't cheat.

[Joe Budden]

They remove the op.

[Mark]

They removed that option. No, no, I know. I'm just saying, as an example, I'm saying don't cheat. All I'm saying is don't cheat. And if you're going behind making fake company. I'm not saying Ballmer did. That's what's debatable. But if it's true, you can't make a fake company to pay somebody an extra $24 million.

[Joe Budden]

And I think your whole don't cheat thing, and this is just my belief is smoke and mirrors. I think we passed that. That's old school sports. It's too much money in sports. It's too much money in the other G word that I can't say. But none of this shit is as we see it. So it's just about who's doing the manipulating.

[Mark]

So just let it be the Wild West.

[Joe Budden]

I mean if someone, if someone had to have a hand in the manipulation, I would vote for it to be.

[Parks]

The owner, bro, not vote for it.

[Mark]

To be the owner.

[Parks]

See, but what we misconstruing is how somebody got the money. Steve Ballmer didn't get his money from being an NBA owner.

[Joe Budden]

True.

[Parks]

So Steve Ballmer with his rich ass was rich before he ever got most.

[Mark]

Of them, almost all of them.

[Parks]

So whether he went and bought the Clippers or, or he went and bought the Pacers or he went and bought a small market team, he still would have more money than most of these NBA owners, which means he still has the ability to make these deals. These deals are not just relegated to big market teams.

[Mark]

No, that's true, that's. But I'm saying the big market teams gives you more. If we're going to start making backdoor deals that are illegal. I'm just saying if I'm in New York, there's a lot more players and avenues. And avenues.

[Parks]

There's a lot more advertising dollars.

[Mark]

I meant players like, like companies, people versus like if I'm in Toronto. Oh, not Toronto. That's a bad example.

[Parks]

Denver.

[Mark]

Denver or Cleveland or something like that, which are great cities. So I don't want that imbalance to get doubled down on. That's all I'm saying. And it just seems unfair. Again, like some people want to actually play by the rules.

[Corey]

Are you of the belief that this is a new or unique occurrence?

[Mark]

No, I know for a fact it's not. I've seen play. I know play. I won't say who, but I know players in cities that have gotten these kind of. It wasn't Philadelphia, but I know players who got these kinds of deals and it really wasn't. But I always thought, this is fucked up. Now again, if it's like everybody's doing it and it's just a secret and this one just happened to come out, then I'm not tripping about it. To your point, that's just the game, but I'm not sure that that's the case. I think some people are playing by the rules. And other it's like steroids, right? If everybody's doing steroids, I don't give a fuck. Right. But if 75% are doing steroids and 25 are playing by the rules, that's not okay. And that's, and that's what I'm trying to understand.

[Joe Budden]

I don't agree with that. I know that my take is not the right one, but I don't agree with that. If 75% of the league is taking steroids, baseball but C league never saw more money than when 75% of baseball was taken.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

So what the fuck? Who gives a with these 25%.

[Mark]

They just make it legal and let.

[Parks]

Everybody knows yo, what the fuck these.

[Joe Budden]

Losers are saying over here?

[Parks]

That Mark McGuire Sammy Sosa race.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Chicken legged weirdos.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey. All them televised game. McGuire Sosa.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I never heard? I never heard from none of them not doing steroids. They ain't put a microphone in front of them. That's true. Dweebs.

[Parks]

Mark McGuire was hitting the home run every day, one arm every fucking day.

[Mark]

Dead ass.

[Parks]

Dead ass.

[Corey]

Prime time TV right there.

[Mark]

The worst is Barry Bonds because he was actually better than everybody already. Then we started doing Roy's and I think Barry Bonds, the greatest player ever, once he started doing Roy's it was a rap.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's not. I disagree with that because Roger Clemens is better than everybody and he started doing it. So if the pitchers start doing it.

[Parks]

If the pitchers start doing it and it gets him an extra mile per hour, extra break on the ball or anything else that gets them an advantage and I'm the hitter, I'm gonna do do it. Guess what?

[Joe Budden]

I'm doing this.

[Mark]

Then make it legal. Let everybody do it. I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

It was.

[Parks]

That's why everybody was doing it.

[Joe Budden]

Let me ask you something.

[Corey]

Do you believe just frowned upon.

[Joe Budden]

Let me ask you something frowned upon. Do you believe in unwritten rules?

[Mark]

I do.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Mark]

Yeah. I'm. I'm good with unwritten rules. I'm good with it. Like I said, I'm fine with it. My point is in baseball at some point they made a banned substance list.

[Corey]

They should have.

[Mark]

They should not have.

[Joe Budden]

They shouldn't have.

[Mark]

But what I'm saying, once you do that, it's no longer an unwritten rule. There's a written rule.

[Joe Budden]

That's cuz here comes be an unenforced rule at that point.

[Parks]

We did that.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz here come the initial, Here come the initial gang and the dorks. But here come the fcc, the acfc. F. Steroids are bad for you.

[Mark]

They're illegal.

[Joe Budden]

Subpoena.

[Corey]

We like home run little testes.

[Joe Budden]

Lose.

[Parks]

Ass ban all the steroids announced we need people to watch the home run Derby. We don't care no more.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, right.

[Mark]

Yeah, no, I'm with y'. All. I believe sports are filled with unwritten.

[Joe Budden]

Went to every rock movie.

[Corey]

Yeah, they point to the golden age of baseball with Babe Ruby.

[Joe Budden]

What do you think they were doing back then?

[Corey]

That was a wild. It was a mafia was doing.

[Joe Budden]

Whiskey killing those farmers. Yeah.

[Corey]

Doing cocaine in the dugout.

[Mark]

They also took all. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, AOD had his steroid come to the dugout. Hey, yo, drop it off over here, man.

[Parks]

The traffic, right?

[Mark]

Uber eats. Yo, man, no, look, I'm. I'm good with the steroid era. I love the steroid. That's my favorite era baseball.

[Joe Budden]

Honestly, Uber eats need to give me the option to decline. Homie on the bike.

[Corey]

Oh yeah. I completely.

[Joe Budden]

Technology is there now to where I should be able to switch that out.

[Corey]

Cuz if I order tacos they are going to come soggy.

[Mark]

Riding with the. The. The flap open. Yeah, the.

[Joe Budden]

They be riding with that little domino pizza thing to keep it hot.

[Parks]

Supposed to keep it hot. That don't work that open.

[Mark]

Hey, y' all remember I told y' all the was riding the bike with my pizza in his arm long. The long pizza box almost killed that son. Almost killed. I said, what are you doing? Yo, what you man, he like this. Riding it with the electric too. With all the wind is blowing. That was cold. Why would you bring my pizza like that?

[Parks]

Cuz you had the long box.

[Mark]

Yeah, I couldn't believe that, son. Was that just for you? No, I was gonna ask if you know. I can't hear you. Say it again.

[Joe Budden]

Some of these stores do need to update the technology. Some of you stores is making too much money to still receive payment the way y' all do it. They got the supermarket the other day somebody was in front of me trying to get a money order. I guess they had just got a new money order machine. It took that nigga two hours.

[Mark]

Fuck needs the money order.

[Joe Budden]

We was tight. The niggas at the supermarket. Sometimes just to keep me grounded, I walk by places that do Western Union.

[Parks]

Check, cash and spot.

[Mark]

Western Union I still do.

[Parks]

And it keeps you grounded.

[Joe Budden]

You still do Western Union.

[Mark]

I have to.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you a bum.

[Parks]

Niggas in jail.

[Mark]

I got niggas in jail. What do you mean?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you helping them out.

[Mark]

Jail and people overseas. Those Are the two people. I gotta say. You gotta do what? You people. They laughed at me. Oh, Moneygram. Yeah. I sent money, grand to people in Gaza.

[Joe Budden]

I help them out with lessons.

[Corey]

Yo, James do this.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, yo, don't do that again. Yo.

[Mark]

How you gonna help overseas with lessons?

[Joe Budden]

I help him out with wisdom.

[Mark]

I helped him with. Listen.

[Parks]

Hey, watch Eyl.

[Corey]

You be straight.

[Parks]

My.

[Mark]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

Oh, man, watch this link.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Mark being at Western Union is funny, yo.

[Mark]

Yeah, I hate that. I feel very out of place. But you got. And that expensive, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that.

[Parks]

Highest quality.

[Mark]

25 to send a hundred.

[Parks]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[Mark]

It's usury.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Mark]

Yeah, they got an app now.

[Joe Budden]

JP gets harder fleece you too, a little bit.

[Mark]

JP Fleeces you, too. All of them do. Getting out does for the. For the video stuff.

[Parks]

It just lets you run.

[Mark]

She was like, I don't know. I never seen anybody.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Mark]

Yeah. I sent my brother some sneakers yesterday. I paid. I paid, like, a hundred dollars for some, like, Adidas mids. You know what I'm saying? Like, some shit. No, you wouldn't even wear on the street.

[Parks]

Cold Nikes.

[Mark]

Yeah. Oh, them joints, too.

[Joe Budden]

Cole's Nikes.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, speaking of jail.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

We gotta unpack this. Young Thugs. Oh, my God. Hey.

[Corey]

I'm tired of it all.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, Micah, turn this pod up right now. Now. About to unpack the Young Thug tapes. I'm so sorry. Anyway, I'm tired of it, too. We're not.

[Corey]

Thank God.

[Joe Budden]

He said that Glorilla was ugly.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

She said, boy, on my phone, trying.

[Mark]

To ask me to cover my eyes.

[Joe Budden]

Boy, you better chill out. I'll make it hot over there fast. And then he said, I apologize. I never even thought you was ugly. And I was home saying, he did right.

[Parks]

He knew what he was doing.

[Joe Budden]

He did the right thing.

[Mark]

Yeah, he did the right thing.

[Corey]

At this point, I think it's fair to say that thug was just bored. And it's okay.

[Mark]

That's it.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he's being set up.

[Parks]

That's what he is. Clear facts, and nobody's saying a thing.

[Joe Budden]

And it's pretty easy. Whoever's doing it is doing it from the comfort of their home.

[Corey]

Like, it's like they had a whiteboard in the jail. Like, what do you think? What do you think of Andre?

[Joe Budden]

What do you think? What about Tanya? Whoever's setting them up is doing it with the ease. At home with their feet up, eating the journals. It's over. The journals.

[Parks]

They trying to ruin them.

[Joe Budden]

They trying. They do a great job.

[Parks]

He's not helping. He's not helping. How so? Slaps.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Slaps pushes all his noise out the way, right?

[Corey]

They do.

[Joe Budden]

Hell, you know, it's funny, man, and it's not funny. But it ain't that easy to find a slap.

[Parks]

I was just about to say, like, I think we kind of get comfortable with some of these good artists and how effortless it is. But then when the machine is not behind them, the machine that y' all talk about so much, y' all just, like, go make six slaps.

[Joe Budden]

We take it for granted.

[Parks]

If it was that easy, my, I.

[Mark]

Would make them right.

[Joe Budden]

Drake heard your song. I ain't heard no slaps. Yeah, Thug, you need slaps. Little baby fell off. Ain't no slaps. At some point, we have to say the slaps are far and few. Now, the people that come up with the slaps maybe don't even work here no more. Something is off.

[Parks]

Things have changed.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, things have changed.

[Corey]

Things have changed.

[Parks]

Whether it be the team, it's not.

[Joe Budden]

Doug could use the slap.

[Parks]

You don't say Drake could use a slap. Yeah, well, Drake.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I could use a slap. Who couldn't use a slap? You know, anybody to do music. If you just wake up one day to a slap.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That sets you a year, sometimes your next two years.

[Parks]

Career, if it's the biggest publishing nicest.

[Joe Budden]

It changes the conversations you can go have, changes the fees you can ask for, changes your tour and the size of the places you're going to tour at a slap Change everything. Yes, for sure. So I ain't about to keep shitting on niggas for not having them, but I am.

[Parks]

Only because these are the people that had the slaps. Like, these are the people that understand that, yo, all I gotta do is put music out. Yeah.

[Corey]

And in fairness, we're also not talking about generational hits. Like, just.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's it.

[Parks]

I'm not talking about no game changer, no iconic record that we're gonna play 20 years from now. Just some hot. Some good music now. Yeah, they ain't doing it. Some of this music ain't been bad.

[Corey]

Some of it has.

[Joe Budden]

A lot of it has. Some of it ain't been feed me for a year.

[Parks]

Exactly. So I don't know if I think we looking for slaps. I don't think we're looking for good music. I think we're looking for slaps from the slap makers that have been proven to make slaps. Ain't just Right there. Whatever changed.

[Corey]

That's not entirely true though, wouldn't you say that? It's like some of this sounds. Sounds good, it's easy to make sound acceptable now there's too much technology to put out something that sounds horrible. Okay, so put more time into the actual craft of the song.

[Parks]

Does that, does that guarantee a slap?

[Joe Budden]

Nothing guarantees.

[Parks]

And that's my point. Like, you act like you just go to the mailbox, like, oh, six laps in here, good looking. That ain't just that simple, evidently, because we haven't seen him in years.

[Mark]

Flip. Yeah. I was thinking about you yesterday when I saw that Floyd Mayweather and Mike Tyson are going to have a fight, a exhibition fight. What do you think about me for cuz? I know you're in a boxing. I know it's not one of the.

[Joe Budden]

Sports you just finished fighting in the street.

[Corey]

It was exhibition.

[Joe Budden]

Exhibition, God damn it.

[Mark]

Yeah, I wish I thought of that. I was just mean.

[Parks]

That nigga said you was doing the Blanca.

[Mark]

Yeah, he said that. Hey, yo, listen, man. Look, look, look, man. Yo, the time has come. The time has come, man.

[Joe Budden]

I gotta.

[Mark]

I gotta get my ass, that's what.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying, off the parkway.

[Mark]

The time has come, man. I don't need to be going through that. I don't need to be going through that. What I went through, man.

[Corey]

You know you had security.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, I did have security.

[Joe Budden]

And police.

[Mark]

First.

[Parks]

No, I peep and then rush, homeboy. After you see the police deal, you know they was gonna get him up off you.

[Mark]

No, no, no, to me, to me. In that moment, I heard somebody call my name. That's why I turned around and then I saw the police. I did, I did charge and take it, you know, advantage of the situation.

[Joe Budden]

But, but you still the first I ever seen turn, make sure the cop was there.

[Corey]

Let's start the fight.

[Mark]

I didn't make sure the cop was.

[Joe Budden]

There and then do something to just totally get arrested. Like, that was fly.

[Corey]

That was fly crazy.

[Mark]

Did they actually arrest you? No, no, no, no. They didn't detain nobody did anything. I wasn't detained, I wasn't arrested or anything. I think that it was the officer that called my name.

[Corey]

You got a little pep.

[Mark]

Somebody said your queens. That's why I turned around and I saw. Then I. You know what I'm saying? But it's over.

[Parks]

Could have been a group of women, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Could have been a group of women.

[Parks]

He was just calling them queens.

[Mark]

I need to get off the parkway and I just got to just do Other things, man. When it comes to that, I think that we'll just walk away. Not, you know.

[Parks]

I mean.

[Mark]

Well, no, no, no, no. I don't think that walking away right now is in my repertoire. I'm saying maybe that's a developing skill. I think. Well, I have to go. I don't have to fight. I think. I think. I think that. I think. You. Say it again.

[Joe Budden]

You said, you don't have to fight.

[Mark]

You don't have to fight. I'm saying. To say, like, I don't have to fight.

[Joe Budden]

You don't have to fight.

[Corey]

He wasn't saying walk away. Like, metaphorically. You just, like, literally walk away.

[Mark]

No, I understand what he's saying. No, I know what he's saying, but even your.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't hear you. What did you say? Sounds like. Like aggressive.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah. Intentionally. I don't want no smoke. Just assume for the rest of the episode, I'm never shooting at you. Even I. I'm using sincere questions. I promise you, there's no joke. I'm just. I watched it and I thought, okay, dude is obviously instigating something. Yes. And he wanted a problem, and you gave him exactly what he wanted. Yes. And that's the thing I hated about it. I understand. You know what I mean?

[Corey]

You've come up here for months, maybe years, talking about how the old shit that you used to do, you don't want to be known for that no more.

[Mark]

Yeah. That wasn't. Okay, go ahead. I'm talking about potatoes you didn't like.

[Corey]

How you would go out in public and people would see your skits and think that that's how they should approach you and, of course, handle you in real life.

[Mark]

Yes, sir.

[Corey]

So what happened?

[Joe Budden]

Y' all gonna be mad at me. We gotta have our intervention later.

[Mark]

Okay, no intervention now.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying we gotta have it. Sorry, sorry.

[Mark]

Let's do it.

[Parks]

Can I go back to the fight?

[Mark]

I'm gonna talk about Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather. Yeah, that's actually the thing that I wanted to talk about because. Because to me, this is rock bottom. I know it's gonna make a lot of money, and I'll probably watch it. I'll probably have a fight party. So I'm part of the problem.

[Joe Budden]

You're such a coon.

[Mark]

I am a whole coon. I'm trying to tell you right now, however, I wish they wouldn't do it. I think too much of Mike Tyson to watch him lose, which I think too much of Floyd Mayweather to watch him lose in an exhibition fight. I don't want to watch either of these people. They're 60 pound difference, they shouldn't be fighting each other. They're 100 years old. I don't want to see it.

[Corey]

It's gonna be a horrible fight.

[Joe Budden]

But you do wanna see it. You said I'm watching it.

[Mark]

I wanna see it for the spectacle of it. It's like watching a bus accident. And I'm saying like that means you wanna see it. Yeah. And I'm saying I think I'm part of the problem.

[Parks]

And guess what? N do they put together a whole bunch of accidents, put a compilation together and put em out to the world and make money off of it.

[Mark]

Yeah. And I just wish one, I wish I didn't wanna see that shit. I wish I had the discipline to not watch it. Cause I'm part of the problem. But I also just know this isn't good for either their legacies. Even though I'd love to see Mike Tyson get paid, I disagree. You think it's good for their legacies?

[Parks]

I think that at a certain point in your life when one, we don't want to judge anybody's money, that's number one.

[Corey]

Two, I think what I think they're both.

[Joe Budden]

We don't, when we start that. Wait, where the hell did that dog.

[Parks]

We don't know if somebody has enough money now to where legacy matters to them.

[Mark]

Mike doesn't.

[Parks]

And that's my point. I ain't wanna say that.

[Mark]

No, he says it, he says it a lot.

[Parks]

So Floyd might be doing him a service as the OG to be like, yo, I know we can go get 200 million over here. You gonna take 100, I'm gonna take 100, I'm looking you out. And fuck what legacy is talking about when you can't put steak on the table for your family.

[Mark]

I'm not telling them that they're wrong. I'm saying I hate it. I hate the way it looks, I hate the way it feels.

[Joe Budden]

How much is steak? How much is steak nowadays?

[Corey]

99 a pound.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, come on. Ish.

[Parks]

Joe.

[Joe Budden]

What? Mike Tyson could go buy a ribeye.

[Parks]

Yeah, but I don't know if Mike Tyson could pay the mortgages and the lifestyle that he has sustained over for the next 10 years.

[Joe Budden]

Mike don't care about legacy, so I don't want to keep using his. I know that he don't, he don't care.

[Corey]

I mean this is his however many exhibition fight. So like we don't have to really.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not sure that Floyd cares as.

[Mark]

Much about Lex cares about the 57 and older.

[Joe Budden]

This is.

[Corey]

It's not.

[Joe Budden]

It's not a specialist.

[Mark]

I know, but Floyd being 57. 0 in actual fights, if he gets knocked on his wallet and knocked out, whatever it is, if he gets knocked unconscious and loses this fight and doesn't go on his record, I know nobody's getting nobody, which is why I fucking don't. That's why. Y' all don't see that as a problem.

[Parks]

This is back to the ransom tweet. What do they think of y'?

[Joe Budden]

All?

[Parks]

That's what this is. We gonna put these names up here. Say this. People say, oh, I want to see them fight. They're not going to fight.

[Joe Budden]

Fight.

[Parks]

First off, it's not going to be a fight. But people are stupid enough. They're gonna. They're gonna buy it. They're gonna go to parties. They're gonna do all of this. It's going to work.

[Corey]

You're all invited also. Just bored enough. Like, it's gonna be on a Saturday night in the winter or fall or whatever.

[Mark]

2026.

[Parks]

Two of our favorite sports personalities getting in the ring, doing whatever they doing.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And making some money. I'm not mad at it.

[Corey]

I'm watch.

[Parks]

I'm not mad at it.

[Corey]

And I'm gonna spend the money, and I don't mind it. I don't. I don't. It's not like they're in their primes. They both retired, essentially.

[Parks]

That's why I don't want to watch.

[Joe Budden]

Sounds disgusting.

[Mark]

Did y' all see Dr. J and Kree Abdul Jabbar play one on one.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Mark]

It's one of the worst. Go on YouTube when y' all get a minute.

[Corey]

No.

[Mark]

And watch it. It's after they both retire.

[Corey]

I'm gonna go back and watch more Mark Lamont Hill versus Patrice o' Neill clips.

[Joe Budden]

Actually.

[Mark]

Go watch for my man. When you watch Dr. J versus Kirim Dul Jabbar, if you choose to watch it, it is the worst basketball game ever. One again. They're not matched well, and they're both way past their prime. And Kareem dusted them, of course. But Dr. J didn't look like Dr. J. He looked like we did. You know what I'm saying? And Kareem didn't look that much better. He was just bigger and tall. So I'm just saying, like, I hate for that to be a lasting memory. And there's kids who will never see a Floyd Mayweather fight or Mike Tyson fight, and they're gonna see this and I just hate, I just don't like the Lego anyway. We can move on. I just don't like the legs.

[Corey]

I think there's kids that might go back and watch some of the old fights because all of us, the uncle are going to be sitting around like, man, these guys used to be the shit. And they'll be like, that's fair. Maybe go watch some of this.

[Joe Budden]

I like the birth of a new revenue stream. I'm a fan of that aspect.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Corey]

I like having something compelling to watch, even if it's going to be terrible.

[Mark]

A new revenue stream would be nice. Compelling. I mean, one thing we did see on the flyer was Mike Tyson Productions or Mike Tyson Promotions, which was nice. Which was nice. Yeah. Floyd, I'm used to seeing on the fly, but seeing Mike Tyson Promotions was striking to me. So I think to your point, there might be a lot a much bigger revenue share in this for him. But I would just like to see him do. I don't, I don't want somebody, a 60 year old man to have to get even pretend to get punched in the head in order to.

[Corey]

What's the other option?

[Mark]

To pay his bills.

[Corey]

What's the other option?

[Mark]

A new revenue show? I don't know. You know, I know he's doing, he was doing podcasting, he was selling weed. Great.

[Corey]

Podcast, selling weed, all those kinds of things.

[Parks]

Edibles.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, see, but that's the other thing. How many times do I need to come up with a new option if I just made 20 million six months ago, right? Like how many times do I need to get water from the well? Now I'm not at that discipline.

[Corey]

So I would go do it also.

[Joe Budden]

I would do it.

[Corey]

Maybe you take the 20 or however many millions of dollars you get from this fight to fund your next venture that you have planned and don't have the funding for.

[Joe Budden]

I would be so excited about this, this business venture, I would ruin it. Like I'd hit somebody for real. Like I would make a thing.

[Parks]

No, you just got children, bro. Nah, you wouldn't. You're trying to get as much money as you can leave your children when you get off the face of the earth. So if a brings me 100 million dollar deal in 2026, I'm gonna fight again for 75 mil in 2028. As long as there's a market to keep giving me checks so that. And I'm at a minimal risk risk, I'm taking them.

[Corey]

I also say as a casual boxing fan, there hasn't been like a lot of big fights to watch, so I'll take it.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, gotta stop saying yo. Got kids. You want to leave all the money to them. Sometimes you want to flow it. Sometimes you just.

[Parks]

It might not even be the money to blow it. Yeah, I got a lifestyle. I like that. I used to.

[Joe Budden]

I'm used to having these kids. Some. Sometimes you want the 30 million dollar Rolls Royce that look like a little boat with the in the back.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark]

And that might be it.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I keep looking at that I don't have no business looking at online. I could see where a few extra dollars would come in handy. Jim Ursay selling his Lake House for 30 million. What else? Hey, they just showed me a bunch of pictures of Jay Z and Beyonce's portfolio. Oh. If you really, really want to get sick.

[Parks]

And they looking at some in the UK right now.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Ridiculous.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's almost some more to get now.

[Mark]

It's always the most.

[Joe Budden]

That's the thing. There's always some to go get. I mean, if you're.

[Parks]

Yo, how much money you need, you can't buy another house. Maybe not on over here. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know where the rumors are coming from, but they say Jay Z is working on something again.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's been bubbling well.

[Parks]

Yeah, they've been getting louder.

[Corey]

Memphis Bleak podcast. Shout out to Memphis Bleak. There's been a bunch of people on there mentioning it.

[Mark]

Yeah, I took Bleak's word serious though, when he said. Yeah, I real quick. I was reading the tweet from Lauren and she was saying that she was at the press conference when they were talking about Jay Z.

[Joe Budden]

You mean Lauren from the breakfast club?

[Mark]

Yes, LaRosa. And she was saying that she had the press conference where Jay Z was talking about or where they were talking about the casino and she said that the reception there wasn't too positive. Like she said, as human beings, people were against Jay Z bringing Casino to 42nd street, to Times Square. What do you think about that? Because I think it would be a great business move. Times Square. I think it would be. Or you think it would be like.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like you want my real opinion.

[Mark]

I do.

[Joe Budden]

You seen Times Square lately?

[Mark]

Come on, stop doing that.

[Corey]

It could use a casino.

[Parks]

Top square. It'll fit right in.

[Mark]

Why you say the dirty cleaned it up?

[Parks]

You've been to Times Square.

[Joe Budden]

You've been in Times.

[Corey]

The Eminem story gonna get it done.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Julian, clean that up years ago, man.

[Corey]

The biggest Ruby Tuesdays in the world is not enough of an attraction. I'm sorry. You like?

[Mark]

There's Red Lobster there too.

[Corey]

It's delicious.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, Joe. That Olive Garden is still fire over there.

[Mark]

It is on the second floor.

[Parks]

I go there when. When last time?

[Joe Budden]

You swear when last time you been to Olive Garden? Two years ago.

[Mark]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

No, not when the last time you picked a olive out of a garden. When is the last time you went to Olive?

[Joe Budden]

Two years ago. Two and a half at most. And it was that one in the Time Square that I'm talking about. I like that one. We go up the escalator. Yeah, it's nice. Why do you think I don't do nothing regular? I wonder why he always paint me as a way I wonder. I'm an Olive Garden G. When it's one around, that's one of the things.

[Parks]

It'S always one around.

[Joe Budden]

That's one of the things I do keep grounded.

[Mark]

It is.

[Corey]

We live in New Jersey.

[Parks]

They get an Olive Garden around here all the time. 22 Springfield.

[Joe Budden]

22.

[Parks]

It's more than that one. I know, though.

[Joe Budden]

It's cool, though.

[Parks]

That's my one, though.

[Corey]

You had the address off the top of your head?

[Parks]

Yeah, that.

[Joe Budden]

Tour, Italy. Time Square. See, here you go. Time Square is a hot mess. Billboard over there. Gentrify everywhere else. Sounds queer.

[Parks]

Listen, when them billions come. When them billions come, they gonna clean us up.

[Mark]

I know you talking about now.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

A little bit dead before they clean that up.

[Parks]

No, we. They've gone, fam. Do you remember what Time Square was like when we was kids?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, the real Times Square.

[Parks]

Yeah. And they. They did something different. And if Jay Z or whoever comes and puts more billions of dollars in there, that some of that money gonna be allocated to cleaning that shit up so these tourists could some feel safe spending that bread.

[Joe Budden]

People not feel safe in Times Square right now.

[Corey]

It's very safe over there.

[Mark]

But say I'm in Times Square a lot. Times Square is, to me, super safe. You in Times Square a lot?

[Joe Budden]

You said Times Square is not safe.

[Parks]

It ain't that safe.

[Joe Budden]

Work stuff.

[Mark]

All jokes aside, fox news is 47 for 6. And BET was right there.

[Parks]

Tom Square.

[Joe Budden]

Tom Square is not safe.

[Parks]

It's pretty up. No, it's not.

[Joe Budden]

No, it ain't.

[Parks]

You be passing.

[Mark]

No. Y' all saying that because of who was. Who was occupying the streets over there?

[Joe Budden]

Is that what's going on?

[Parks]

They got scams they got over there doing mad robbing, hustling, all that. They Atlantic City is disgusting. And guess what? They go down there every five minutes to get gamble.

[Corey]

I Work at Times building for.

[Parks]

They gonna be there 15 years.

[Corey]

It's.

[Joe Budden]

And the.

[Corey]

Granted it's been six years. The old studio and it made his music.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Corey]

Yes it is. I had to walk through time. I had to walk through Times Square both ways.

[Parks]

And that's why I'll go out, eat.

[Corey]

Drink all that in Times Square. I was in Times Squirrel.

[Mark]

I've been working in a few years.

[Parks]

Yo, it's different when you hanging out.

[Joe Budden]

What you talking about now?

[Parks]

Walking through, just going through, passing through. It's a whole different ball game, dog.

[Joe Budden]

This Time Square has its own precinct and will still shoot you over there, stab you over there, go over there. Oh, then you're not paying attention to. That's not true. You're wrong. You are wrong.

[Mark]

I'll look it up.

[Joe Budden]

People are getting shot in Times Square right by the.

[Mark]

They just shot somebody shot in Time Square in the last year.

[Joe Budden]

Oh my.

[Parks]

They just shot somebody recently. Recently. I'm not lying.

[Corey]

Okay. Out of how many billions.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying.

[Corey]

Square.

[Mark]

Yeah. I gotta look this up.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. I don't judge it like that. If you're gonna pull out the gun by the hot dogs, man. At 3pm I think it's dangerous with spider man.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, that could have been the only time the gun came out that year. But guess who ain't going back.

[Corey]

I wouldn't quite call that dangerous because one occurrence happens.

[Parks]

What I'm saying is when an investors come, unfortunately grifters now they clean up the neighborhoods. They spend some money to. To get a ROI on their investment.

[Mark]

I'm trying to figure out why would. Why would anyone be against it going there, right? Maybe the same reason.

[Parks]

People.

[Mark]

Probably the business. Probably the businesses.

[Parks]

No, because you. You tend. You tend to displace the people that.

[Corey]

Are already there in Times Square.

[Mark]

Who's in Timescribe displacing. It's mtv.

[Parks]

It's businesses and other.

[Joe Budden]

Viacom.

[Mark]

Yeah, I don't care about them.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

The way I would like in a neighborhood like, you know, get rid of people.

[Corey]

The M M stores can go. It's fine.

[Mark]

Ripley's.

[Joe Budden]

We do need a new casino though. That's up.

[Mark]

I don't know if I'd want to go to a casino in Times Square either. It's just already too dense for me.

[Parks]

Depending on how I look. Depending on how I look.

[Joe Budden]

I don't. I don't want to go, but I may want to uber someone from here. You not gambling.

[Mark]

You have.

[Joe Budden]

Oxygen. Be in the building three in the morning. They be wide awake. What? That's the new cafeteria.

[Corey]

That is gonna bring back some of that old Times Square over there now too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Oh, the casinos tend to come with that.

[Joe Budden]

Some stragglers.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All right. What else is important? There's more people than that are from New York listening to this broadcast. What else needs our attention or doesn't need our attention? Rest in peace. Giorgio Armani.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

We're pretty late in the broadcast. Rest in peace to Giorgio Armani. Fashion legend. Fashion icon. Along with Rolling Roland Ray. Rest in peace to Rolling Ray. Internet. Internet icon. We got. We lost two legends.

[Corey]

We did.

[Joe Budden]

We lost two legends. Man. Let me queue up. Outstanding. Mark, you don't have a beautiful eulogy for our Giorgio Armani, huh?

[Mark]

Or Roland Ray, if I was giving Mad as that did all that Rolling Rays in my. You know what I mean?

[Corey]

It's about to get worse because I'm gonna throw Stream Easter. Let's get something that we really need. Outstanding.

[Mark]

For facts.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. Get your shit off.

[Parks]

What is Stream East?

[Corey]

Stream east was a bootleg streaming site for sports.

[Parks]

Watch all the sports shits without the.

[Joe Budden]

If I was happy, man, we rushed over my church for Streamy Stream.

[Parks]

A lot of people up.

[Corey]

That one's going to hit home for a lot of people.

[Joe Budden]

You good?

[Corey]

Legends. Legends. All legends.

[Joe Budden]

There we go.

[Parks]

There we go, everybody. Legends.

[Joe Budden]

Thanks everybody. Love them. Freeze. Hey, let Mark. Let Mark do the rest in pieces, all right? Free freeze it. Look at Mark about this. Oh my God.

[Parks]

Don't care.

[Joe Budden]

I don't give a.

[Mark]

You know.

[Joe Budden]

I don't give a n. Everybody loved them. Everybody loved them. Love my. At least that's effort though. Yeah.

[Mark]

Anybody anybody likes. Stop laughing. Everything toky go laugh.

[Joe Budden]

Just saying that is effort though. That's more than Mark did. They dead Mark?

[Mark]

No, I was co signing your joke. Like I didn't put much effort into it. I'm not saying Roland Ray. She was sad, but my daughter was very upset about Roland Ray. She was a big fan of him in high school. When she was in high school she loved him. She called me yesterday. She's like, I can't believe he's dead. And I was like, really?

[Corey]

Everybody loves us too.

[Mark]

Did you see the picture?

[Joe Budden]

What the fuck?

[Mark]

Chicken time.

[Joe Budden]

Oh my God.

[Mark]

No, I'm just saying like he was in chicken time, Bob. I mean, I was hoping that he would have gotten better. He had a lot of health issues, you know.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that ain't gonna work. That ain't gonna work.

[Mark]

I'm trying.

[Joe Budden]

Rolling Ray got some of My favorite reads.

[Mark]

That's fucking hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

When Rolling Ray was talking to Trina cousin Bobby Lights, and he was like, I roll around bitches like you. He was cutting Bobby Lights. I know y' all don't care Straight, man. But he got some good reads. Rest in peace to Roland Ray and Giorgio Armani. Everybody loved them. All right.

[Corey]

And stream East.

[Mark]

We might as well. We might as well rip the WNBA season, too. People are saying.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Mark]

That's what a lot of people are saying. I don't feel that way. But a lot of people are saying that because Caitlin Clark yesterday announced that she's out for the year. And so the eyeballs are going to be gone. You know, a lot of the national televised games are probably gonna get changed. People are gonna see how much she meant to the league. And again, I love a whole lot more players than Caitlin Clark, you know, And I hope now that people look at the Asia Wilsons and, you know, all of them. Right. But it's a big deal that she's out. But I'm glad she's resting up. Cause she's had injuries all year and she's had just a really rough second year. So I'm rooting for her to recover and I'm rooting for the league to still get supported. Even if you only watch it for Clayton Clark, try watching something else.

[Corey]

Do you think that the racists will discover Paige?

[Mark]

I think that's gonna be their new Caitlyn.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

I think that's exactly what's gonna happen.

[Corey]

They gotta fall back.

[Mark]

Yeah. But I hope they pay attention to Andrew Reese's great season. I hope they pay attention to all these other things that are. Shout out to Andrew Reese. Yeah, word. Doing that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Mark]

Doing that again. I'm over here.

[Joe Budden]

I always get distracted anytime I see something. That said mother faces backlash over what she wore to her son's game. She always got all the ass.

[Corey]

She just wears some regular shit. Just has some ass.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no.

[Parks]

Be a lot of ass.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he had a game. He can't even put the pads on.

[Mark]

Move.

[Joe Budden]

Where's your mother?

[Corey]

Special teams anyway.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't getting no burn.

[Parks]

Sit down.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. Let's see, let's see, let's see. We did KL2. We did stream East Carti. Rest in peace. Tyson Mayweather.

[Mark]

I see Lil Jon Bodybuilder on the board, and I know. I saw the images of him doing competitions and stuff. Somebody wrote. I don't know who wrote on the board, but somebody was really interested in this. And I Wanted to know why we're.

[Corey]

Just trying to promote health as wealth up here at the Joe Budden podcast.

[Mark]

Oh.

[Corey]

50S as bodybuilders ourselves.

[Mark]

A lot of.

[Joe Budden]

Us are going through a lot of.

[Mark]

Are going to the gym. Are you going to the gym now?

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

Oh, that's what's up, man. That's dope. Yeah, that's dope. Proud of you, man. I need to get to the gym.

[Joe Budden]

That's normally the next step. Once you learn, security won't hold it down. Let me get. Let me get my right. All right. I got to be able to do this in case it pop off. Hey, you talk to security after that?

[Parks]

Nah, I got winded.

[Mark]

Nah.

[Parks]

Be like, yo, I got to get my together, Joe, what's up with us?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, you my man.

[Mark]

You got. You just said.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to say nothing.

[Mark]

20 minutes pass. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have no beef with you.

[Mark]

It don't have to be beef. We can have a conversation. This is. This is a broadcast, and we're here to have dialogue. I think it's unfair to. To the listeners that you may start something. Yo, I'm letting Sim in and not shoot. Just think so. I can handle whatever you say if you want to have a conversation.

[Parks]

Did that connect with that long ass hook? No.

[Mark]

Come on, man. Seven, please.

[Joe Budden]

And pause. Wait, What? Yo, did he connect with that long ass hook, yo? Oh, my God. Oh, my Lord. You are flagrant boy. With children. Other children. Other day, I felt like I was 33. Took my knee up off the bed, went to work. It been about 20 years since I took that other knee off the bed.

[Corey]

The cat, Morgan.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

She looked, man, like, who the you is?

[Corey]

That's a dangerous game, because now you.

[Joe Budden]

Gotta do it again, right? And when you're doing it, you gotta do it. If you're doing that, like, you gotta. You gotta go. You can't.

[Parks]

You gotta put work.

[Joe Budden]

You can't pump. Fake that one. That knee is off the bed, and she look back.

[Parks]

No, no, no long.

[Joe Budden]

We done. You gonna get the seven. The seven Palis strokes, and then we back to normal.

[Corey]

Gotta get the oxygen tank like we in the Mile house.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure, for sure. Anywho, let's see what else is going on up here. Oh, the Epstein list.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

We finally might get some action, even though. I doubt it.

[Corey]

I doubt it.

[Mark]

Yeah, the Epstein's victims said that they're gonna come up with their own list.

[Corey]

Yeah, I mean, I guess. Who better to do it Good for them.

[Joe Budden]

They don't know they was. They was under all types of drugs. And Cisco.

[Mark]

Hey, you KO Yo.

[Corey]

All the rich old white guys kind of look the same anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Those are some different party favorites. Hey, hey. That was the guy in the suit. Real pale, droopy face.

[Corey]

Look like he could have been dead. I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Kids can't be trusted. It was dark on the island.

[Corey]

No facial hair.

[Joe Budden]

Clicking mark. Beady eyes looking like pure. Them kids about to falsely accuse somebody. They about to lie on somebody famous.

[Parks]

They going to get that new chicken.

[Joe Budden]

Holy. All right. Oh, man. They say they're gonna come out with and put the list out themselves since nobody else wants to do it. My advice to y' all is the same as it was to Theo Bond. Hey, but the mistake was announcing it.

[Corey]

They should also maybe wear wigs and try to hide the identity a little bit.

[Parks]

I made a press conference in the.

[Joe Budden]

Horrible movie we don't watch. Waited two hours to watch the good guy finally get the upper hand on the bad guy. And you give a speech. You tell him what you got. And now. Now he done uncuffed himself. Stabbed you. You're like, dummy, what are you doing? Same thing with these kids. If you was gonna do it. God damn it, just do it. Do it.

[Parks]

That was the only thing I didn't get about it. Like, I made a press conference announcing that y' all are gonna say something content.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, y' all still live right over there.

[Parks]

Live right on Johnson.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all is right in Long Island. Still that pulled up, huh?

[Corey]

Statin, Randall.

[Parks]

It's less security.

[Joe Budden]

You right there. Look, they distracting us with this young thug. Word. Mariah the scientist. You ain't low neither. Talking about some. Damn. They say she look like. Yo.

[Parks]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

It's important in a relationship to know when your partner is setting you up, too. For real. There'll come a day where it turns into Mr. And Mrs. Smith in a relationship. And you gotta win. You gotta win. You can't let us. They say she like Rihanna. What you think?

[Corey]

Anyways, niggas know what thumb is. Glee.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all hear Drake tell. Y' all tell the people why he colored his paint his nails. I missed it.

[Parks]

No.

[Corey]

Was that in the Bobby interview? I fell asleep.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. He said he bites his nails. So he just wanted to have pretty nails like Yachty. Cause he always bit his nails and they weren't unattractive.

[Corey]

I see. That was the least informative concept piece I think I've ever seen in my life.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's just another reason to get her in a bed. Don't nobody. Bad eye. Hey, why you keep watching. Do this interview in the bed?

[Corey]

It was fun the first time. None of the other interviews were like.

[Joe Budden]

What a. I won't be the one to bring it up, I'll tell you that.

[Corey]

Nicer bed, anywho.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, much nicer bed.

[Corey]

View.

[Joe Budden]

And he talked like he beat. If you watch.

[Corey]

He does.

[Parks]

I ain't see it, but I. I get your point.

[Mark]

You know, you have to see it.

[Parks]

There's definitely, definitely a post beat vernacular. Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

You would have to see it.

[Parks]

Little post beat energy.

[Joe Budden]

And she was trying to keep talking. She was trying to keep the beat alive.

[Parks]

Nah, nah.

[Corey]

You know, keep the beat going.

[Joe Budden]

1. Let's see, let's see, let's see. I think we. We might be done with all this. We might be done with all this. I don't see anything else up there.

[Corey]

How y' all feel about your football team? Teams this year?

[Mark]

I feel great.

[Corey]

You should.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And you don't watch the game anyway, so.

[Mark]

Yeah, but just knowing, you know, I.

[Corey]

Mean, I guess you don't have to.

[Joe Budden]

Don't ask me. I want a tank.

[Corey]

I think that y' all might be kind of all right.

[Parks]

Yeah, y' all gonna be good.

[Joe Budden]

I would love us to win six games.

[Parks]

I think you're gonna win eight.

[Corey]

I think you're gonna win 8.

[Parks]

I think y'.

[Mark]

All.

[Corey]

I mean, what.

[Joe Budden]

I think that they know that this is a transitional year. I think they've seen enough from Jackson Dart to be happy. I've seen enough to be happy. He'll be there, so I'm sure they do. So let Russell and Jameis do whatever they doing. Let's get a good draft pick and let's get this ready for next year. And if we start losing early enough to put him in the game, like around week 11.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

I feel good going into next year or the next few years, so I'm not mad at where the Giants are. Kudos. Kudos to the Giants for having a quarterback room with black guys there. And this is the first time in NFL history where half of the starting quarterbacks.

[Parks]

16. 16.

[Joe Budden]

Are black. So let's make some noise for that. Yeah, man, Absolutely.

[Parks]

In four or five years, it'll be more.

[Joe Budden]

You a want to make noise for that?

[Mark]

Yes. I love black quarterbacks. They're great. Very accurate.

[Joe Budden]

Anti black. Anti black.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You're not beating allegations.

[Corey]

Did you use an accuracy joke in this?

[Mark]

No, I wasn't being funny. I wasn't being Sarcastic. I'm saying, like, you know, historically, they were seen as, like, athletic but less skilled. I'm saying now they've actually. They're skilled. They're elite quarterbacks. I love it. I love seeing the depression of black quarterback.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark]

They're not just legs anymore.

[Parks]

I'm with y', all, whoever putting that compilation together. Y' all got some.

[Joe Budden]

That's fine.

[Mark]

That's fine. I'm excited. Not excited. I'm disappointed a little bit for you as a Steelers fan, because I think Commanders fan. I thought you were a Steelers fan.

[Parks]

I'm joking.

[Mark]

Oh, okay. I was like. Because y' all are so well coached and have such a great organization, you're probably gonna win nine games, 10 games, make the playoffs and not get better again. That seems to be like the Steelers.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

They live.

[Parks]

They well coached.

[Joe Budden]

They live.

[Parks]

Live in mediocrity.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's.

[Parks]

That's where Pittsburgh has been for the last a decade. Longer than that.

[Corey]

I mean, if you're lucky, maybe Aaron Rodgers will come in there, like, really up, like in a bad way, and you. You can tank if that's what you think is better.

[Parks]

I do think it's better.

[Corey]

It's not better.

[Parks]

We ain't. We ain't playing to compete for a championship and haven't done that and haven't done that since about 20, 15, 16. Been trying to. This ain't the answer. We'll see, though. Listen, I. I'm open to be a wrong. I think he gonna shock people too.

[Mark]

Play well.

[Corey]

He might pull the Brett Favre, go to the Jetson suck and then go.

[Parks]

To the next team and they're gonna do well running. Look, all right, again, I'm thinking about going to the game Sunday.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah? Where is it?

[Parks]

MetLife.

[Corey]

Oh, why wouldn't you go?

[Parks]

Got reasons.

[Corey]

Oh, okay. Fair enough.

[Mark]

How you feel about them Cowboys?

[Parks]

I thought we had a really good shot at winning yesterday. Even before the game, I said that I think we look good. I think we're going to be better than people think.

[Mark]

Playoffs.

[Parks]

Stretch right there.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

Wild card esque. I just. I think that. I think Dallas has enough pieces to be a playoff team. I don't necessarily see championship or anything above in us, but I definitely, definitely think we have enough to be a championship.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I think the projection on the Cowboys is 7 and a half games. You got more or less more.

[Parks]

I think around 9, 10.

[Mark]

Oh, 9, 10 is 10 games.

[Joe Budden]

Playoffs.

[Mark]

9, 10. You're gonna make the playoffs. No, it's not 10, 10.

[Joe Budden]

You will in the NFC.

[Parks]

You'll probably make NFC.

[Joe Budden]

10 games.

[Corey]

NFC. You might make it.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you might make it.

[Corey]

I don't think that the Cowboys are going to be in that, though, by the way. I think they'll be fourth in their division.

[Parks]

Unfortunately, Chili, I disagree, but. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you had him fourth in the division.

[Corey]

I do.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Corey]

I do. I think our defense is going to be leaky.

[Joe Budden]

I'm anxious to see what that Giants defense looks like on Sunday.

[Parks]

I think they're going to be amazing. I think the Giants defense is going to be really good.

[Corey]

They got good receivers and a competent quarterback.

[Parks]

For the first time. They got a one and a two receiver.

[Corey]

Got a running back.

[Parks]

That's actually for the first time. They got a one receiver or a bona fide one. One in a very long time.

[Corey]

Since Odell. Yeah.

[Parks]

So I just think that. I think the Giants are going to be better than people give them credit for.

[Corey]

I think so, too.

[Joe Budden]

Who's fell off faster than Ben Simmons?

[Parks]

That was fast.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mark]

If you think about the year that the Sixers lost to Atlanta, where he didn't make shoot that layup.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Mark]

I mean, he didn't play him.

[Parks]

It's been over since.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's been over.

[Parks]

Yeah. Oh, he was.

[Mark]

He was an All Star day from.

[Parks]

Here to now, nigga, he ain't been.

[Mark]

No.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Mark]

But I'm saying from that year, just to that extra. From that moment, and people thought it was injuries, but he hasn't got back.

[Joe Budden]

The talk now is retirement.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's been retired. He's been retired.

[Mark]

I'm worried about him, to be honest.

[Parks]

Mentally.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah. He is, for me, a really, really talented player. Exceptionally talented, who was always. Never quite figured it out. The scout reports on him when he came into the league where they, you know, he doesn't affect winning enough. He doesn't show up in big games. He's not coachable. He doesn't have a motor. And I think when he got to the NBA that played out that way. I watched him for those years struggle with shooting, and I watched him get the ball wide open and wouldn't put a shot up. By the time you got to his head, it got in his head. And then when Doc Rivers publicly said, you know, I don't know, when I asked a question about him and when Joel Embiid also had critiques of him, I think there's shame, there's embarrassment, there's ego, and now the money's gone. I'm not saying he's broke. I'm Saying, like, the big contracts are gone. He's not gonna get another big contract. I worry about his mental state right now. I know people say they don't care because he's made all this money, but I'm talking about just as a human being. I worry about Ben and where he is because he's still a young guy.

[Parks]

I think he. I think he really care about basketball. That's what I think. I think that outside of his outside shot and him not having a proficient outside shot, he was still damn near walking triple double, and he could damn sure and an elite defender lend to a team. And I think at some point, he just stopped caring about the sport in itself. Like, yo, I don't feel like fucking with y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Parks]

It's like when somebody come in the industry and the industry games and all that shit, they don't want to play. Like, yo, y', all, I'm here for the check, and I'm out.

[Mark]

I think the injuries.

[Parks]

You saying about his mental health, I think. Excuse me. I think he's kind of been processed this. This point a long time ago. Yeah, this ain't. This ain't a abrupt change where it's like, oh, now it's over. I think, mentally, he been checked out of basketball.

[Mark]

See, the red flag for me is the fact that he's lost an agent. He stopped. Rich Paul no longer represent him. Now, his most recent agent let him go yesterday or two days ago. When your agents start getting rid of you, that's a sign of something else. And that's what I don't know, but we'll see. I hope he finds a team. I hope it's the Knicks, yo. Watch your fucking movie. After that Jalen Brunson scandal breaks. After Pablo Torres goes to Jalen Brunson, you might need a point guard, find.

[Parks]

Out he got oil in Wisconsin.

[Mark]

Look at the Knicks, yo.

[Parks]

I would take Ben Simmons if he wanted to play basketball. Of the Knicks. Y' all get him for the cheap.

[Mark]

Yeah, we'll see what happens.

[Parks]

Six, nine, defender, long arms, can handle the ball. Dish the ball. He ain't gonna shoot nothing, but you.

[Joe Budden]

Don'T need that six' nine with a hook.

[Parks]

Yo, he got a hook like a hook shot.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

I don't. He can make lays my basketball.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you guys stupid?

[Mark]

Is you not immature enough to.

[Parks]

I caught the cookie joke, all right?

[Joe Budden]

There's more young thug jail calls, but we can skip it.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

This time he's taking aim at three stacks.

[Mark]

What do you say? He ain't heard Two Andre songs.

[Corey]

J. Cole's never sold as much as NBA Young Boy, so I don't know. He said Andre didn't put nobody on. Is he's just bored in jail. Yeah, that's all it is.

[Mark]

I can't get mad at it.

[Joe Budden]

What did he. What did he tell Glow? I was in jail. Just low on life.

[Corey]

That's it.

[Joe Budden]

I was just low on life. Just saying. Yeah, you got it, Young Thug.

[Corey]

It's not like he was on the record saying all this.

[Mark]

Yeah, you should be able to talk in the privacy your own home.

[Corey]

That's a.

[Joe Budden]

Or whatever.

[Parks]

Your own cell.

[Joe Budden]

You on the record. If they taping.

[Parks]

Well, this call is being recorded.

[Joe Budden]

That's the record.

[Corey]

I suppose I. I suppose they did warn you before you hit five.

[Parks]

That's fun. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What else? What else? What else needs our attention?

[Parks]

Stumbled across another list.

[Joe Budden]

Stumbled.

[Parks]

And this is the top 50 greatest female rap albums.

[Joe Budden]

50.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Parks]

Lauren's number one. Of course. Miseducation is 1. Lil Kim Hardcores 2.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Parks]

Missy Elliott, Super Duper Flies 3. The Brat Functified is 4.

[Mark]

That's where I. That's where I jump off.

[Parks]

Yeah, you lost me.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's why. That's my stop right there.

[Corey]

That's a good album though.

[Mark]

It's a wonderful album.

[Parks]

Foxy albums. It ain't better than that. Any better than Queen Latifah first Queen Latifah.

[Corey]

Better than Cardi for something.

[Parks]

Well, let me. Let me get through the top 10. It's a rock.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Let me get through the top 10.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry.

[Parks]

5. Rhapsody, Layla's wisdom.

[Joe Budden]

6.

[Parks]

Foxy Brown, Il Nana. 7. Nicki Minaj, the pink print. 8. Bahama Dia.

[Corey]

That's great.

[Parks]

College collage. 9. Trina the baddest. And 10 is Queen Latifah. Black Rain.

[Mark]

I have Black Raider like number four or five for me.

[Parks]

Me, I got the first album. But no, no, no. Salt and pepper you that salt and pepper first we it.

[Mark]

This is what I say this. I'll give credit. I'll give credit just cuz somebody don't.

[Parks]

Want to come in here and big up foxy 77 times.

[Joe Budden]

You just. You agree with me on my foxy take, so. What are you talking about?

[Mark]

No, I like.

[Parks]

I think Foxy's.

[Joe Budden]

You cold agree with me.

[Parks]

No, but it's other people.

[Mark]

This is what I like about the list.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, take that salt and pepper to the pantry. Salt and pepper.

[Parks]

Salt and pepper appears on the list at 22 with very necessary.

[Joe Budden]

That's about right.

[Mark]

Crazy Salt.

[Joe Budden]

Pepper is back There with Stetsonic. You up. They back there with all. All of them.

[Mark]

This is what I'll say about that list, though. For once they weren't just going for the biggest star. They were actually talking about quality album.

[Parks]

True.

[Mark]

I agree, cuz Black Rain isn't a really good album. Collage is an excellent album. Layla's Wisdom is an excellent album. So at least they're trying to actually talk about the albums and not just who's the biggest star or who's the biggest name.

[Joe Budden]

That's true.

[Mark]

I respect.

[Joe Budden]

Where did Cardi fall in that?

[Parks]

We were like 21 or something.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, they wrong as hell. Double check. They wrong as hell.

[Parks]

She's in there.

[Joe Budden]

That Cardi album.

[Mark]

Crazy.

[Parks]

What's the best Nicki album?

[Joe Budden]

Probably the one that's up.

[Mark]

Pink Print. Pink Prince is the best one.

[Corey]

Yeah, not mad at that.

[Mark]

I thought mc.

[Corey]

I mean, Light should be up there somewhere.

[Mark]

Yeah, that light, to me, that's either.

[Corey]

One of the first two.

[Parks]

Yeah. Cardi was 21.

[Joe Budden]

No. Yeah, that's wrong.

[Corey]

Give me the teens. Out of curiosity.

[Mark]

Yeah, I'm right here.

[Parks]

All right. 20. Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday. 19. Lady of Rage, necessary roughness.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

18. Queen Latifah. All Hell, the Queen.

[Mark]

Yes. That's another great one.

[Parks]

17.

[Joe Budden]

That was the one.

[Mark]

That was the one.

[Joe Budden]

That was the one.

[Parks]

Queen is the one. Got it, got it. 17. No name, telephone.

[Joe Budden]

All right, we gotta stop.

[Parks]

16.

[Mark]

You didn't like that no Name album?

[Corey]

I like no Name, but She Should Not Be.

[Mark]

It shouldn't be that high. But that's a great.

[Corey]

I like no Name. She Should Not Be.

[Joe Budden]

Neither do. Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know.

[Corey]

You just say that because you guys both own bookstores.

[Mark]

She's a book club, all of that.

[Parks]

16. Jean Grey, Genius. 15. Missy Elliott. So addictive.

[Corey]

Missy got about five albums that could be in this top 20.

[Parks]

Facts, Gangsta Boo, inquiring minds at 14. 13. Little Sims, sometimes I Might Be Introvert.

[Corey]

Just came out a couple years ago. It's a good album, but top 20 is insane.

[Parks]

12. MC Light. Light is a rock.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Parks]

And 11 is Eve Scorpion.

[Mark]

Okay, that works. I thought Jean Gray should be higher too, but I didn't. I wouldn't put genius. I would have put this week, but that's just me as a Jean Gray fan.

[Joe Budden]

But there's a doja album that goes somewhere in this mix.

[Parks]

They probably been considered doja rap.

[Joe Budden]

I'm a. I'm ahead.

[Corey]

So I love the Rod Digger album.

[Mark]

The first one that was the other one.

[Parks]

Dirty Harriet.

[Corey]

Dirty Harriet.

[Parks]

That's a really good album.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like that about. I think the first Boss album album.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't wrong.

[Mark]

You.

[Parks]

You got.

[Joe Budden]

I think that was Recipe or the album that had Recipe. Yeah, the album was hard.

[Parks]

Dirty Harry is 22nd.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Mark]

I put. I put Dirty Harry.

[Joe Budden]

If y' all are telling me that no Name I need, I'll go listen to it. No Name is dope.

[Corey]

I wouldn't put her in the top 20 personally.

[Mark]

The album is a little. It's like a monotone. Same issue with Jean. Like sometimes. Like it's. It's the same. Like.

[Corey]

It'S a little lo fi too. It's a little. I don't want to say earlish, but somewhere along the lines I don't know if you're gonna really fully enjoy it.

[Mark]

You're not gonna like it. But I love it. I loved it. Yesterday is my. All I need is my Sonny Dwayne like all that. Like that's a really good album.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Mark]

It's better than the next no Name I want you to think is really good too.

[Joe Budden]

You got it? Got it.

[Parks]

And the Boss. The Boss album you referenced 35.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Mark]

Good.

[Joe Budden]

All right. That's not going. At least they. At least they had it.

[Corey]

They acknowledged it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. At least they had it in mind. I'm not mad at that.

[Parks]

What you think is nothing.

[Joe Budden]

What y' all doing this weekend?

[Mark]

Anything.

[Joe Budden]

Anything fun? Anything lit like. I know we covered all the news.

[Parks]

The first topics the first week football kickoff season. So gonna be. I might be at that game. I'm thinking about it. I'm really. I might be in the game.

[Joe Budden]

You definitely should go.

[Parks]

I should, right? What you want to go watch the games?

[Joe Budden]

I'll watch the game. Well actually I got a spade game on Sunday. We're gonna watch the game play. Oh and old school school and Jeezy's in Jersey. Where? When?

[Parks]

New Jersey Pack Sunday night.

[Mark]

Oh, word. He hates me.

[Parks]

It's another one of the black tie joints.

[Mark]

Okay. Yeah, it makes sense for that.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Why is Sunday man. What's up?

[Parks]

And it's black tie.

[Joe Budden]

Is he doing it after he's all.

[Corey]

These has to wear black tie.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like all of the Jeezy his this whole tour have been getting jiggied up. That's fly from state to state to State every 20 year anniversary of TM101. So he's doing that with the live orchestra and the whole. And he's asking all the fans that when you Come into black, tie it up.

[Corey]

You get kicked out if you don't.

[Parks]

Nah, you don't get kicked out, but it's like they said, you. Yeah, you gonna look crazy. When everybody dressed, people came in there with a hoodie on.

[Joe Budden]

When did you say that was?

[Parks]

Sunday.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man.

[Corey]

Not gonna cancel the spades game for that.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I won't have to. We should have made quick work of the opponents by the time Jeezy. By the time Jeezy is up here. Mark, if you free, you can come by on Sunday.

[Mark]

I might be in Philly.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Look at that.

[Joe Budden]

As luck would have it.

[Mark]

Oh, don't. As luck would have it, I'll reach out. I'll make you. I grab a partner and come over there.

[Joe Budden]

I hear you, buddy. My dad had cards on him at my birthday dinner.

[Parks]

He damn sure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

He pulled me to the side.

[Parks]

Always got cards. I said, said, fam, that's what you're doing. And you will really sit right here.

[Joe Budden]

And do what he said.

[Mark]

Let me show you what a real player do.

[Parks]

Yo, if somebody opened up his jacket.

[Mark]

And put on a deck of space.

[Parks]

50Aman, he'll sit right there.

[Mark]

Yo, I was impressed. That cake.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Mark]

Aman, you play spades?

[Joe Budden]

Random, partner.

[Mark]

Me? You could have been spades partners. You never played. Okay, we're talking patreon.

[Parks]

Puerto Rican, bro.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Play dominoes. He ain't really black. He Puerto Rican. Play dominoes, right? Dominoes.

[Joe Budden]

See, see, look, look.

[Parks]

Got excited. Dominoes. Mufflers.

[Joe Budden]

Eating coochie.

[Parks]

Said mufflers. That's the Puerto Rican trifecta.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Them a chop, a car in a heartbeat. Spades, he don't know, but give him a sip it. We do different cuts over here.

[Parks]

Ain't going nowhere.

[Mark]

Loud as hell.

[Parks]

He said we cut different on this side.

[Joe Budden]

Sure enough.

[Parks]

Bring that Civic down here.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all hold it down out there, man. I hope y' all have a good weekend. Enjoy some of this. Some of the last of this good weather that we get in New York. If you outside, go ahead and be outside. Seen a tweet the other day was like 38. Talking about some cuffing season. Go. Go get a job.

[Corey]

Oh, no.

[Joe Budden]

They said, go. Go get your blood checked or some. Damn. Oh, man. Make sure them levels right. All right, Man, I ain't doing nothing this weekend. My baby gone, man. So I'll just be in the house. Sad, lonely. Oh, miserable. I don't really know what to do without her. So, though, I'll just be in the house. Man probably crying regular depressed.

[Parks]

Wipe them tears away at 12:30. Oh, call so.

[Corey]

Find out where you're at.

[Parks]

Oh, oh.

[Joe Budden]

Got what's up? What you want though?

[Parks]

Chilling?

[Mark]

Just chill.

[Joe Budden]

Stop talking to me with your ch.

[Parks]

Is not chilling.

[Joe Budden]

What you not chilling at all. Anytime you put on the Sergio. What you got on. Anytime you put that on, you go.

[Parks]

I thought it was a camo short.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no, but it's a combination. It's the that cuz they match with anything. But when you put that Sergio on, it's time to be a man of the night.

[Mark]

You do try to go outside.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, stop with this. It's time to be a man of the night.

[Parks]

Man of the night with some jeep.

[Joe Budden]

You got this?

[Parks]

Yeah, Military shorts on.

[Joe Budden]

Stupid ass.

[Parks]

Man of the night.

[Corey]

Those are not military shorts.

[Parks]

You are correct.

[Corey]

Those are designer military shorts.

[Joe Budden]

How you know?

[Parks]

They from the army?

[Joe Budden]

Navy. Army and navy.

[Corey]

Shit's got a different kind of stitch.

[Mark]

Yeah, the stitch is different.

[Parks]

Just get you caught.

[Corey]

And they fit different. Them should be baggy as hell at the military store.

[Parks]

Oh, them the real.

[Corey]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, y' all hold it down out there.

[Parks]

The heavy D version, man.

[Mark]

Rest in peace. Heavy D?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark]

I mean, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying, you can't get that. Wow.

[Parks]

You told him to play. He already had it on. No, I mean, that wasn't it at first. He just.

[Mark]

That's what it was.

[Parks]

That's what it was.

[Mark]

That was it.

[Parks]

He played the first one and then went. It was already playing. It was already playing when you told him to play the heavy D version.

[Joe Budden]

And if you say something else, we'll hit a rewind. You say something. Look at my ar.

[Mark]

Look at my ar. The just came. You just k. Hit that arm. So right is you.

[Parks]

It's okay.

[Mark]

It's okay. Just walk away, bro.

[Joe Budden]

It was always be making the big deal. Let's play it again.

[Corey]

Yeah, totally right. Rest in peace, Heavy D. Rest in peace.

[Joe Budden]

That Heavy D. Listen, man, he said.

[Mark]

Play the heavy D version like diddly diddly. What the. You.

[Joe Budden]

All keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Hopefully you enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Until the next time, we bid you a do farewell. Adios to R. Di. Hasta la vista ar Vois. So long goodbye or simple head novels suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Lastly, the baddies insecure, the stagnant women want to travel the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Excuse me, my gird. Grab your Tylenol, you might need it. We'll be back same time, same place. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hopefully we have a nice non violent weekend. A nice non violent weekend. Even if tempted or provoked, hopefully discipline prevails. Sure. And we have a good time. Man, y' all cool. Anything weighing heavy on you? Cool man. Hearts, head, soul, mind, body, spirit. Nah.

[Corey]

Chilling.

[Joe Budden]

Any ads y' all took during the week that you forgot to get off? Took that ad money. You ain't get it off cuz we ain't do sleepers. Any artist you got a shout out that paid you that you forgot about, do it now. Come on. Come on, man. Quiet now. They quiet. Yo, Aaron hall singing this hook is. Is sick. Never mind. You've never heard of Joe Bunny? Jbp. Jbp. Where would you be without the jvp?

[Parks]

We'll fold that up right now. Don't look away now.