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I thought you took some pillows and you know how Mel put the pillow behind us. Something like that. He thought I. And then said he thought I put the pillow behind me like Mel something. And then n said, that's a whole new couch. And I looked. Me and ish went like this. It's a nice couch. Well, I mean, you guys have only been here for about 40 minutes looking at the couch. It's been. I was over there. Yeah, it's been for about an hour. I was over there. First thing I noticed when I looked in. Where's the other couch? That's a good question. Nice. Then we get straight to it. Where's the other couch? I wanna answer you. You can't do your construction job, Yo. Hey, homeboy, you can't work on your construction job right now if you don't put that 37 inch Hewlett Packard somewhere. Well, wait, let's stay here, though. Let's stay here. Shit in his back pocket. Move that shit. Let's stay here, though. We talk about his computer later. All right. Where's the other couch? Is talking about for the audio listeners. Oh, yeah, my bad, y'. All. For the audio listeners, I. There's a new couch here. It's a beautiful couch. Thank you. Park it look comfy as hell. You should get a matching one. Maybe come sit over here. For real playing with me. Sit right here. Come on. No, this. I need a couch, but sit here, though. I need a couch here. I. Before I purchased the couch f for y', all, I had to make sure the. This couch was cool. It's like a beta version Like a Beta version. You know about the beta? Beta Y. See it real quick. Come on. Send Mel C. Real quick. Get a little taste of this. I said, Mel, you said a lot of crazy. Come on. For real. Freeze. Come on, freeze. Come sit right here. You go over there and sit on that couch. I kill you. You would have to sit on the couch, dodo head. So you come get a taste of this. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Get this. Where's the couch? You like our taste? Where's the couch? Y' all gonna head to restoration after. Bite yourself. No, right? Hell. No. Hell to the north. How was it? Hell. Where's the other? The Beta passed. Now, where's the other couch? Okay, now, they didn't have two of these. I didn't think. Well, that's the great thing about working with your friends. I didn't think my friends would not want me to have the new couch that was there. Right. So I did buy one, and the old couch was making me miss. Oh, I missing. You missed the old couch. Thank you. I don't know the words because I never missed. I never missed anybody. Hey. I don't know the words to that one. I thrived in the abandonment. Freeze. Your couch is coming, big dog. All right, cool. Okay. You know I wouldn't do that. You know, I wouldn't be trying to make sure I wouldn't get one couch and not get two, huh? Oh, I wouldn't have done that. You could take that to tonight's conversation. You can take that up there to them. All right. So how we feeling, man? I'm introing this and shutting up for an hour so Mark could go. Oh, we going with that? Topic one, Right? That's what I'm doing. Y' all can have a blast. I ain't got much to say, audience. Huh? I don't have a lot of. What the hell? I watched your night school. I did, too. No, people. You had a little bit to say. I watched your night school. People weren't happy about that. They weren't. Some people weren't. No. Really? Really. People want you to take extreme because you're mature. Oh. Oh. Your people wanted you to. People on every side. Gotcha. And I watched the cult doc again. That I already saw. I did watch the cold doc, but I watched it with a new set of eyes this time. Yeah. I had the luxury of this being the first time watching it after knowing what I know. Yeah. Great. That way I found you. Or did you find. I thought I seen him in there. No, it was him. All them look Like Mark. All of them look like Mark. Well, that's racist. It's racist if you say it. Racist if you say it. I can say it. Yeah. Now all them look like Mark 1. And I've saw this already, so I didn't have. I don't have any questions or anything like that. The one thing that stood out this time, knowing somebody that was involved in. What's the name of the Nuabi Nuabians. The Nuabians was the. What. What was your. Let's go do that. What was the. The Nuabians. You subscribed to that? A lot of people did. Apparently. They said they were aliens. And he was like, yeah, fuck it. I guess we're aliens. We weren't aliens. We just knew that there were aliens. Oh, yeah. We didn't think we. Now I get what you asked me. No, no, I didn't think I was an alien. Oh. I just thought there could be aliens somewhere. Did you join the cult in the shit? Go ahead. I thought he said he was the. He was the alien and y' all were aliens. No, just him. Oh, just him. Yeah. He was the man from the planet Risk. He didn't bestow that upon them. Mercury, Venus. Where that one at? It's over there. Yo, that nigga arg about a potential flat Earth, but this nigga think that nigga is from Risk. Yeah, but I was 16, 49. Circle back. That's right. Circle back up. Where Smoke. Where Risk was at Between Mars. It was in Ilune. What? It was the 9th, 18th planet in the. What galaxy was it in? It was in a different galaxy. I don't remember. I was a teenager. It was Milky Way. It was Snickers. All right, so they called you when you were young. I was asking that when I watched it. Yeah, I started reading. I started reading the books when I was like, 14. Yo, do you still have the books? And was in Almond Joy Galaxy. Oh, it's still mad about that. I was like, I get revenge today. I'm far from. Now you got them now. You should watch the docs if you're really. Watch the doc, Please. I'm just cracking with my boss. Yeah, no, we had fun though, man. Huh? Okay. Yes, it was fun. Why does everybody think. Yo, see, this is the problem. Y' all all think cults be like, oh, love, sex, violence, a lot of murder, a lot of suicide. Oh, tap the kids. But in between that, there's lots of good times. I'm trying to tell you. Yo, this sounds like my. That be coming home from jail like yo ish word. You would have been loving it. Yo, we used to be hooping. Y' all wish my ish was. No, you don't wish your ish was here. Them jail say, but we. But we weren't. Yo, we have. I'm telling you. Be like jail relationships be genuine, the most fun. I mean, as a. As a period of life. I'm saying better than here. This isn't a period of life, but. Yes. No, this is definitely a period of life, but I'm not comparing the two. Mark only been here for a year. He was in coke for man long. Yeah. And it was great. I would think with all the abuse that this was. I didn't know. He didn't know about the abuse I put you in here, by the way. They still got him? Yeah. What you mean? You can hear it. Listen to him. Oh, yeah. He still reads the books. I said online, like, he's still down, like. No, you know what it is? You say he still reads the books before you go to bed. No, I did the moment. Like, you know, I still got the tattoo. I still got the coat tattoo right here. I like it. It's the one I didn't get covered. I never got a cover, cuz. I never felt. To me, it's just a. It's a memory and it's a. It's a time in my life. Upside down heart. It's a little bit. It's. Yes. It represents divine love. While we on tattoos in flat earth, can I just ask, can I bring something up without getting attacked? Please, Go ahead. Ish. A little. The bird on the curb, Mark, when you wasn't here, it wasn't a secret. On the curb. He did? Yeah, we talked about bts. Mark said you got a stitching of a tattoo that you gonna get of the earth, but it's round. Is that true? I have a stitching of it on the bts. When you're showing the mock up of your potential tattoo, you have a picture of. Of the earth on it. The planet are you getting around Earth on you. For all the goofies you include it you the ring. You know I'm the king goofiest. Why you act surprised? I'm not. You know me already with regards to your flat earth conversation. My. My. My flat earth quote unquote theory is that it's a possibility. Not on tonight's conference. Talk normal, nigga. I'm talking normal. That ain't how you talk when Cheyenne Bryant talk to me like a. Like we was in Jersey. Girl, I know you Talk regular. I talk with regards. I talk this way my whole life. Anyway, dog. I never said the Earth is flat. I said that there's a possibility. And I'm open to that possibility. That is what I said. I ain't fight for flat Earth. I don't know. Are you open to planet risk? Let me ask you a question. How they know how to pronounce it? The alien told him the proper way to pronounce risk. You can't say risk is Arabic. It was Arabic. It was Arabic. But rizq means to provide. Yeah, you were still. You were still in there. He's still in there. Would you like to learn the truth, Operative? He a operative. Yo, we gotta go check the truck. In your car, you got pamphlets. Still keep recruiting. Still keep recruiting. Find out. Jersey City, downtown. No, you know what it is when you. When you. When you. When you. It's different kinds of cults. True. Some cults are like the hardcore. Like, just join, drink the Kool Aid. Give us your kids. Yours was, yo, you going to drink water first and we going slowly add Kool Aid. I mean, we going to go get the kids. They built stuff. They still got the kids. But I didn't know. I remember a lot of famous people were part of it. Like, people I knew were part of it. Like when we were growing up. I mean, it's not secret, like jazz. I mean, famous to us. Famous to us. Like when you watch. When you watch, like, the Originators, you see, when you watch Jazz O's first video, he's sitting there with Dr. York. All in the video. You remember how he says in the. Jay Z said that. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, it's in the video. I mean, when I went up there, the Grave Diggers was up there. We know music. Soul Child was a member. Yeah. I mean, it was all love, all family. So, like, it didn't feel like a weird thing. It got weirder over time. And it's. You know what it's like. See how hip hop influences. You know, it's like. It's like. It's like. It's like a Diddy party. It's like a Diddy party. No, no, it was. It was actually exactly like a Diddy party, too. Yeah, take that. Take that. Oh, no. What I mean is, Joe's been to a diddy party, right? I've been to a few. Yeah. But then there's another party after that party. Wasn't at that one. Exactly, exactly. And so it's like, you can join the cult. I wasn't At Burning Man. And I wasn't Burning Man. That was a good joke. I'm saying that there's levels to. There's different Diddy parties, right? When you join the cult, like, there's different levels. Second, Mark, I'll smack the out of you, yo. That'll be the last smack in a long time. And take that jab then. You can't go out there after the show. You might. You know what I mean? Go ahead, Mark. I'm sorry. That's the whole point. You could be a member and not know all the shit that's going on behind the scenes because you think you in. But then there was another level, which was moving to the land. Oh, you weren't cool enough. I got to the land. So you did make it to another level. The community, the organization, the circle, the inner circle. And the inner circle. She laid that out. She did. She laid it out. She gets to your inner circle. What part were you in? Yeah, you was in kindergarten. I was on Thanksgiving of 1996. I was up there. We ate dinner. Y' all still celebrating Thanksgiving? We call it Yomsukar. He was getting named stuff. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Run that back, yo. Me. It was the day of gratitude. It wasn't like American Thanksgiving, but there was turkey. Y' all didn't wear the hats. We wore them hats. Different hats. Oh, my God. That's also a solid joke. That might be your funniest joke. Yo, so I went up there, and I walked in the next morning just to, like. Cause I was the driver for the Ramsey's nightclub. So that morning, I was checking to see if they need anybody picked up. Cause I think the night before, we had picked up the Blue Magic. And when I walked in. Wait, wait. You were the driver for the nightclub they shut down. Wait, what? Blue Magic? Y' all picked up, like, Ted from the Blue Magic. Oh, I think I thought he meant heroin. No, no, no. I mean, let the sideshow be. Them niggas was lit. Circus. Blue Magic. Yeah. You took drug tests at the cult? They made me take one. I'll tell you. So here's how it ends. Real fast. So I drove up there. I walked into the skating rink, which was the club doubled as a skating rink. And when I walked in, he had all these kids surrounded by him, and one of them was sitting on his lap. That's the first time I had seen anything that was weird to me. And it wasn't that weird to me. Cause he was. He was. You know, there were kids. He had, like, 500 kids. Like literally his own biological kids. 130. Yeah, that's what they said, 130. I think it's more than. It's more than one. They said upwards. Yeah, I think it's like 500. Cause I know, like, I know his old. Like, Jake York, and all of them are like his old. Older kids. And then, like, the younger kids are like the. The next generation. Was that my age? And then they're the ones who we still. They're running around now. So I walked in saying that I left because I was like, no. They were like, you ain't supposed to be here. What are you doing here? Get out. Right. It was the way they reacted to that that was more suspect. Like they all had on skates, you know what I mean? So I left. And then they told me I kind of. They sent me on a run to Atlanta because it's out in Eatonton, Georgia. I. They never let me back up. A day later, they said, we hear reports that you're using drugs and you're not allowed up here anymore. And that's when things started to come together for me. I left, you did some shit you wasn't supposed to. And now that's when my spidey senses started kicking. Then I started hearing stories. That's when your spidey senses kicked in, right? Cause all I knew he was fucking everybody's wife. There was no kids involved. All I knew was that he fucked people's wives because he was allowed to. Right? Yeah. So that was almost like sanctioned in the context of I can have multiple wives and y' all can't. Cause y' all not disciplined enough, which happens in a lot of organizations. It does. A few questions for you. I don't care. There's so many shit you're talking. Listen one. This is my serious question. They said that the people that joined joined because they felt the need for a strong sense of belonging. Belonging, identity and self pride. Do you think that's true for you? Here's what happened. Partly, yes. I was following my brother, who was a 5 percenter, and then I just started reading books and everything. The one we talk about often, not the lawyer, but the other one. Yeah, Frazier. When I got to Morehouse. So part of it was basketball had ended for me at that point, and I was sort of devastated by it, and I needed a place to go. Yeah, you said I needed something to do and I didn't have. Basketball was my whole world from middle school until my sophomore year of college. And so I ended up and so that's when I was like, I remember the day that they told me. So it just kind of ended. Right. I remember dropping out of Morehouse and going straight down there and said, I'm gonna work here full time in the bookstore, mlk. And that's when I got really. Got deep into it. You know what I mean? But before that, yeah, it was identity, it was belonging. It was all that stuff that I can understand, I can get with that. That makes all the sense in the world to me. When I was watching it, it was through the lens of how did they get my brother Mark to join and would they have been able to get me to join? What I came away with was maybe until about the 32 minute mark. Actually, you said you were the driver for the club. So my equipment. This. This was. What was your reaction when he said, because I was blown away at what they built in Atlanta. Like when they showed the drone shot. Yeah, we had the houses. Yeah. What is your reaction when he points to some land and says, build the club? Yeah, that's the part where. See, that's why the clicks never got. I can never get with some. You. You can't look at me and say, this is where I want my mansion. Build it for me. So no, he pointed. Y' all niggas built a sphinx. So if he telling you that we have the ability to do all this and you. You believe in this? Like, Jesus, man, If you don't call the contractors. If you don't call some people that's supposed to build this sphinx. They built a sphinx. Ish. If you build it, they will come. Where were you during the raid, is my question. I had drove. But to your first point, the way you do it is by convincing people that it's a collective. It's. We built this. It's not built this for me. It's, look what we have. We never said you have 476 acres in Eaton tendos. We have 476 acres. And the idea is we're gonna have a homeland for our kids. We're gonna have a place to keep our children, you know, safe from the streets and from what we call the Dunya, the outside world. And when you replace the I with we, everything gets better. People buy into it. Y' all wasn't pocket watching. Even slanders, we said, even illness becomes wellness when you place I with we. Right. Like, if any one of y' all get up and say, I'm going to build a sphinx. Ish. It could happen. Your son could call you Tomorrow. No, he couldn't. He could call you. And the other thing is, he was a musician. Dr. York was a musician, so he had the group pass. Did he have slaps? He had one. He had one. One slap. And he was old by the time Mark got in there. Like, y' all could have took him. He's born June 26, 1945. So that means he was. Do you still celebrate? God damn, Jesus. I do not celebrate. What have you heard? All right, listen. Anyway, yeah, we. We have to start this broadcast. We'll have more questions later for sure. Oh, my God. Like, for the rest of your life. It's tough to even stay awake potting from this couch. It looks cozy. It's cozy, bro. You look comfortable. You do look comfortable. It's comfy. It's. Come sit right here. I'm cool. Flip here. He about to sit next to you, Flick. No, he won't. That's a good. That's a comfortable seat for him. He should sit there. Should sit right there. Not not. I'm not sitting over here. Where are you going to sit at? I don't know. Nobody said nothing about coming on time. What are you talking about? It's a new couch, bro. That's what we talk about. What time you got here? We're not. What's up? I knock you the out. What's up? You come in here with an attitude, that's a trigger for me. If people come in here with attitude, that triggers me a little bit. Like in real life. Before. In real life. What up, Flip? Has that happened before? What's up, baby? What's up? Follow me off. Just talking shit down. Leave me alone, man. Leave me alone. Please. Leave me alone. Please. Yeah, take your shoes off. I told you dogs. I want you to sit there. Yo, what's going on? You talked all that shit. That's my son. Hey. Oh, good morning, y'. All. We here. No, no, no, no. You can't sit by me. Hey, yo, sis. You don't know what you. Oh, you got this for now your back gonna be good, girl. Look. Yeah, get me in trouble now. Another girl. Now, if another girl comes in here, these niggas gonna go crazy. Stop. Good morning. How you doing? Par me, y' all par me, man. You sitting here for real by me. Next to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm back. You need a new seat. Yeah, my man took my seat. Flip the city a little bit. I mean, that was like six months ago with them jeans. Yeah. Get out of here. All right. Ooh, Wait. Hold on, audience I'm sorry, y'. All. Yeah, I'm sorry. Our bad. We getting to work. We getting to it. It's tough. Yeah. When you got this mortgage, you in your back. Ish. Oh, my God. This shit type, too. This your type. Ice was already over there. White. Oh, yeah, that's the clip. This feels good. The room is up. You said. You said you sat on here. You sat on here with the freeze. Yeah, yeah, that all right. That's why I said, where's the other one? I got y' all two weeks. What's the name of this? Ish. Like, what's the. Oh, this is a cloud. Day bed. I didn't buy it in terms to a bed. That's not what day bed means. Call me. I don't know. You know, I ain't get money like y' all. N PA me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you can't use that one no more. Yeah, a little debate. You can't use that one no more, B. Well, yeah, just let it go. That's why I text y', all to get the knowledge. You know what I mean? Put me on. Put me on in the beginning. Day bed. This shit feel good. Hey, yo, sis. Ooh. Stop, man. Yo, freeze. Look, it's like a lumber for the back. What I can do. Look. Hey, it's like lumber. Wait, what was that? No, wait, you can pull. Yeah, it's lumber. Yo, what's that word I said last time that y' all let me rock it? And Mark smiled. You remember? He was laughing. He said that word. It wasn't a word. I don't know. I know we do that a long time. Let me say. Don't tell me. They caught it online, though. They was killing me. I let it go. I was like, come on, Mark. That's what the deal we made. Yeah, it's all right. Mike gonna cut you on air. All right, we have to start the broadcast. Come on, come on, let's get to work. And we started story. It's me again. Hey, you know your baby daddy. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind maybe splitting down with me on that old income tax thing. I did get to see our kid a few times this year. I took her to dinners and stuff and bought her things and. And, you know, I might have not been able to hold down a full time job like you have all these years, but I think I've done a good part. But my. My girlfriend, she's. Well, she ain't getting any income tax either. She don't have custody of her Four kids. And I was just wondering, you know, if you could help me out. It might help me, you know, buy some Christmas presents for our little one. If you even, you know, let me around this Christmas. I know you always say you do, but I just can't ever have gas money to get all the way there. So maybe, you know, I can put it in a savings account for something, I don't know, buy Christmas presents for these little kids, too. Hers. And I was just thinking ahead. Maybe. Maybe you'll help out or something. I don't know. Maybe you help me. She's kind of buy my girlfriend's kids, you know? You guys see his baby mom dancing? It's been pretty rocky here lately. I still love you. I mean, I. I miss. I mean, begin okay. Yeah now man I'm just starting man but I don't see much still running the street so I don't sleep much watching the snakes so they don't creep up but the way I'm getting is money can't keep up, you can't keep up got beef but it can't be much I'm still walking through the crowds like I can't be touched Sh back all black gresy puck ice skate a little later Mike, let me Damn she might let my bad this for the soldiers that see the sun My bad at midnight not about you yeah, you was good. Still, still about Let me slow down it's so different I go to the grave before I be a better behave you dealing with some rich we done lost some 1, 2, 12 what's popping out there I understand the codes these hackers can't crack I folks expect me to fold, communicate, violate parole all wait for the ladies all wait for the ladies Feel I'm I kind of gonna feel like Solomon Seal it's just the intro Allow my flow time to sink into the temple Freemasons, freelancers, free agents we fast big contracts, big contractors, big pyramids, period. We master all black diamonds times were hard new Rolls Royce guess you made it all white neighborhood you they favorite my top back like JFK they wanna push my top back like JFK so I JFK Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Shout out to the five barrels out there big jersey, big jersey so it I'm doing better behave you dealing with some rich starting in the ghetto now we worldwide multiplying and I pray to God we never die Multiplying and I pray together couldn't do nothing with me they put the devil on me I had a preferred nigga everybody at work right now. All over the world, Connecticut. What's going on out there? Go to hell. This is God and generic. This is the hell, man. We pass. Y' all cast the first phone. So y' all look in the mirror, double check y' all parents. I said I was amazing. Rap boys is hard, boys. You don't sound like Nipsey. Huh? We know. They tried coming to my life. Everybody in Los Angeles. What up, what up, what up, what up? Whole West Coast. What's going on out there? Yeah, this is America. Hey, there's some people don't like this song. What? There's some people in this room that don't like the song. I don't pay Ice no mind. I take pride in that. Liking fire. I ain't pay Ice no mine. Why don't like this offer because it's not a good song to me. Hell, no, they don't like that. Black empowerment. Get the bag. Yeah, yeah, I'm all right. Well, yo, let me ask you what he said. Where? What? He just did the verse. This is so hard. You said this is fire. What did he say? Lyrics up? No, I want you to tell me because I know the lyrics, Bar. I don't know any lyrics other than this is America. What did he say? He said a bunch. What did he say, though? What? Because it's so fire. I don't have in memory prize. You don't know nothing. He said that's why I'm not a lyric guy. You ask the wrong guy. I just want to know what made this song dope song. I like listening to it. Yeah. Word. No, he said it's fire. This is fire. Fire about the beat, the production, the switch ups, the arrangement, everything. Y' all front Y. I like the song. Hold up. Listen. I'm not saying you don't. See, this is why Ryan Clark be talking to a certain way. Why this? This why? This is where players talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Done it with people that played the sport get to it and not you Party going. I bet you the two I bet you the two songs that became one before this song. Y' all know the lyrics, but y' all not lyric guys. That's true. There's Michael Jackson songs. I don't know lyrics, too. Okay. There's Beatles songs. I don't know plenty of songs. We don't know the lyrics to not know songs. I don't know lyrics. Oh, really? That's me not knowing the lyrics. Don't speak to what y' all think it speak to, but I Love, y'. All. I'm here for peace and love. I'm here for peace and love. Let's not start out with division. This country has enough Division. Shout out to Division. Part of the country. Don't do that. This country has enough divisions. Almost told you to sit home. I've seen your tweets. Oh, I gotta break it. Let me intro this. It's part. It's part. It's part. What's that? New Ice and is. Who is that? Who is that? Got no problem with gay people. Gay people work for me right now. I forgot it. I'm damn near around gay people every day. All right, Mic check. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Flip, Flip, Flip. Big Flip is in the building. Y' all know the vibe. Queen's finest. You already know what time it is When Gang is here. What episode is this? Welcome to episode 860, brought to you by Fuel by Powered by Prize Picks Prize Picks. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here host. Really comfy host Joe Button here with a few really amazing people. Flip is here. Mark Lamont Hill is here. Ish is here. Ice is here. Parks is here. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here. By remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's poppin? How's everybody doing? Feeling great. How we doing? We doing good, boy? I'm great. Let's go. All right, that is my intro. Tossing it to Mark Markel. My Hill. Take it away. I gotta update. Solve racism. That's easy. That's easy. That's over already. But I got an update for y'. All. Charlie Kirk's killer has been found. L I g. His dad. Read it. Of course he did. His dad was a cop. His dad ratted. Oh, shit. His dad was a sheriff. And more importantly, this is my favorite part of this. And I find no joy in the fact that Charlie Kirk is dead. But Tyler Robinson, the person who killed him, is a 22 year old, straight, heterosexual, cisgendered Christian male from Utah, conservative family. White. White. What? Yeah. Need to be said. Yeah, you forgot about that. Thank you. That's a great one. White families, registered Republicans. He's not registered. But family. Registered Republican's dad's a sheriff. I'm just saying this is a dream for the left. Cause what happens is everybody for the last three days on TV been saying, you know, it's one of those crazy liberals, it's those crazy trans people, it's the blacks that killed Them. It's the Democrats that killed them. Nope, wasn't none of them. It was one of y' all that killed them. And that makes me relieved. Not happy, but relieved. I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? Yeah, that makes sense to me. I just looked at his Facebook page, by the way, you know who he was for Halloween? Who? Donald Trump. Oh, so you. You just ecstatic. Know who, who was the killer? The alleged shirt. Tyler Robinson. Yeah. And not like clowning Tyler Trump like he's a Trumper. Oh, got it. Huh. That's what I'm saying. He is a hardcore right winger. He doesn't like Charlie Kirk for whatever reason, but too early for my conspiracy theories. Oh, that's why I keep saying alleged. I'm waiting for the second hour. At least that's fair. But I'm getting them out. Let's update the people. Yeah. What do you mean, yeah? You started with they caught the dude and didn't tell him who died. So Charlie Kirk, a few days ago, was murdered while giving a speech in Utah. And to the people like me, who are not necessarily familiar who that was, and me, he was a podcaster, right? Podcaster, right wing commentator, troublemaker, pundit, all the things. Young kid, right? College debater. College debater. College kid debater. He was young in general, 31. 31, yeah. Oh, that nigga look old as hell. Yeah. Hate to do that to you, bananas, man. Well, so Charlie Kirk was. He was in fact, invited to a college campus by a right wing student group. They brought him. He spoke. He was shot in the neck from 200ft away. And he wasn't shot in his neck. Like, let's stay here for a second. Yeah. Because. And again, I am not an expert shooter. When I came in here and said that homeboy that shot tried to shoot Donald Trump in the air was a good shot. Or you gun expert, dudes popped up. Oh, anybody with some training can do that. Well, I'm gonna say it again. This dude was a good shot. Yeah, that. That bullet. Charlie Kirk had a vest on. I watched the slow motion 9 million times, and he hit homeboy dead in his chest. Dead in his chest. And it popped off of his vest and ricocheted through his neck. Oh, really? Oh, wow. That's what happened. Wow. I didn't watch the video. Oh, he hit him dead in his chest. Everybody said the neck. I'm like, I saw it. It looked like. And it bounced the bullet through his neck and went through his neck. I see, I see. I didn't Watch. I didn't watch. I don't like to watch that kind of stuff. But I didn't know that. Yeah. And, you know, I got a million phone calls. Would have happened. Charlie Kirk's been shot. And before. Before long, I mean, I got to note that he was dead. And it's been. The country's been up in arms ever since. Yeah, a lot of strong feelings about it. A lot of people celebrating it. A lot of people devastated. You know, I saw Candace Owens saying, I lost my best friend today. You know, I saw other people say, you know, thank God, you know, like, ding dong, the witch is dead. That kind of energy. I don't have that energy. That's not my perspective on it. I think it's okay to be like, charlie Kirk is dead. I don't care. I think it's okay to be like, charlie Kirk is dead. Fuck that guy. Right? I think when you live in the public and you do what he did for a living, all bets are off. But the murder of him is the thing that I refuse to celebrate, nor do I want to condone. Political violence is always an issue. It's always a problem. And we don't want to create a society or normalize because we already created one where you can be killed for what you believe or what you think. Even though I think what he believed was deplorable, even though I think he's a piece of shit, even though it's like the Hulk Hogan thing, I think it's totally okay to be like, charlie Kirk wasn't shit. Charlie Kirk personally put me on the professor's watch list. He put me, named me as one of America's most dangerous professors. Really? So. Because there's something circulating right now with a young black female professor saying that she was on this one. Yeah. Brittney Cooper, I think, said that, who's a dear friend of mine. So you also were on this list? Yeah, I'm on that list. This is a real thing? Yeah, yeah, it's a website. What is the professor's watch list? The idea is to take. It's mostly black and brown people, but to take professors who they say have dangerous ideas and who shouldn't be trusted. It encourages universities to fire us. It encourages other people not to bring us in to speak. And frankly, it encourages harassment and encourages doxing. Was he on this list? No, he's not a professor. Oh, okay. You have to be a professor. And it's his list. He created the list. Oh, yeah. So he basically said, I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna warn you all, anyone combating white supremacists, views and theories. He took the mantle from, like, David Horowitz, who used to do it. David Horowitz was the first person who put me on the list. And these are like, he died this year too, you know, of natural causes. Live way too long. But all of this is part of an environment and a culture that we have right now. And I don't. Even though I think, again, I hated what Charlie Cook stood for, I don't want him to be murdered. That said, let's not turn him into a saint. Let's not turn him into a martyr. He did create energy. He created a context for this. He's the one who encourages people to track people down. His words, his actions, encourages people to threaten people. And he himself didn't talk against gun violence. He did quite the opposite. He did quite the opposite. He was like, second Amendment, sometimes people gonna die. No. He said, yeah, sometimes a few people getting killed is what we need. Right. I have a bunch of clips saved from him, none of which I'm going to play because I wouldn't. That's not what this is. I wouldn't even want that in my phone. Right. Or ears. But I do want the people out there who are out here sort of martyring him, going to the other extreme to understand. Charlie Kirk didn't fuck with y'. All. Yeah. Charlie Kirk hated black people. He didn't. He thought black women were dumb. This is the dude that says, if I get on a pilot, if I get an airline and the pilot is black, I'm second guessing being on the plane. Exactly. I mean, this is. This is what I'm talking about. He said everything. Anti trans, anti gay, anti black, anti Muslim, anti Muslim, anti Semitic, pro Israel. That's often a combo that we see. Yeah. I think sometimes in the. It's okay to hear both sides and he shouldn't be killed for his thoughts. Yeah. World that we kind of live in. And a lot of podcasters, frankly, have lived in and watched Rogan and Charlie Sheen talk about it. It. You're absolutely right. You should not be killed for your beliefs. However, it's not like his beliefs were. I think that billionaires should be taxed less right. Or. Or more right even. I believe the Second Amendment, like, he had like pretty radical racist theories in speech patterns. So bros hate speech. Yeah. And that's my point. If you traffic in hate, things like this are going to happen. I just don't want us to encourage it because one that ball's Gonna bounce back. Oh, I'm with you on this, by the way. Yeah, And I know you are. I know you are. Jesse Waters from Fox News, as soon as this happened, jumped on and said, we have to avenge his death. Oh, well, no, that was the talk. Oh, now that's the talk from the Republican Party. Before they even caught homeboy, they turned this into a political thing. They made him a martyr. They made the announcement we're lowering the. The flags to have. Which is crazy. Even the Yankees shouted him out on Twitter yesterday. Right. It's like, let's not forget who this person was. If Minister Farrakhan, God forbid, were to pass away tomorrow, I promise you, none of the sympathy would be that Chicago White Sox are not lowering flags. Right. If people have strong beliefs that you agree or disagree with, engage it in the public square. But when the state gets involved, you got the White House, you got corporate America acting now like Charlie Kirk was Martin Luther King. Right. Well, apparently he played a large role in Trump's election. Yeah, I'm sure. He's a young podcaster. I guess so. He was probably. He's a strong voice. Yeah. Influenced probably a lot of young people to follow some of these beliefs and ideologies. I didn't know who dude was. He's not in my hemisphere. It didn't take me long to find out who he was. Right. And I recognized, once I saw some of the clips, I was like, oh, yeah, I do. Yeah. Right. I had no idea who he was. South park just spoofed him two episodes ago. Oh, really? It was a big thing when that happened. I'm like, who the hell? So that's why. And they've taken that. Yeah, they pulled that episode. Oh, really? Wow. They pulled it. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. People are. It's getting real funky. And then the last piece of it for me is the political violence language. Right. Because whenever somebody people don't like. I'm sorry. Whenever people like somebody and that person dies, they start calling it political violence. And it is. Right. If you're killed or attacked or assaulted to advance a political agenda or political message, that is political violence. I agree. What happened to Charlie Kirk was political violence. But let's not act like it's only political violence when Charlie Kirk gets killed. People have watched protesters get killed. People watch protesters get murdered. People have watched an entire genocide in Gaza. That's all political violence. What happens? And black lives matter in the streets. What happens to black people who are protesting the death penalty or workers rights? That is Political violence. All state violence is political violence. And yet somehow we can only muster that language when we talking about Charlie Kirk. Is Luigi's murder political violence? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. And I want to ask you, why is that? Him getting shot political violence? Because if he was allegedly shot for an agenda, whose agenda was it? Because the individual that shot him is aligned. His family is aligned. He is aligned in his ideals and principles with this specific person. I do think it's a little early to call it political violence, by the way. Yeah. Until we know. Until we know the details, it looks like political violence. Absolutely. Because he's a political pundit. That'll mean he got shot over a political. Like in violence. I mean, most people don't get snipered from 200ft while giving a speech. And it's not more than 200ft or 200 yards. Excuse me, 20 yards. And it's not. But I agree with both of you. It could not be. According to the reports that have come in as recently as a few minutes ago, though, the shooter said that he didn't like Charlie Kirk because they thought he was fascist in his beliefs. Okay, so that's where the political piece comes in. I got you. But conspiracy brain. Me say something totally different. But I want to hear conspiracy brain. Of course. You said. I mean, we've seen you. You get somebody in your. There's politics, isn't it? Violence in politics? Yes. Yeah. Oftentimes. Yeah, yeah. There shouldn't be, but there is. Oftentimes. No, it's gotta get an infiltrator. You get somebody that's in. I see. To make it look a different way. Yeah. Yo, nobody can. Can convince me that them dudes behind him were not doing signals. I haven't watched the video. A lot of people are saying that they saw the hand signals behind. I didn't hear the puller. The air. Nobody can convince me of it. I wasn't on board when it was just the one person behind him doing it. Then I got the wide view. It wasn't just him. There were multiple people standing behind him doing shit that was obviously cues. But they could be cues to their own internal. They could have been his bodyguards giving signals to his bodyguards in the crowd about something completely unrelated. Maybe. I'm not gonna buy that. Because if this dude was that important. The dude that's on the roof is never hidden that well. Like, there were videos that, hey, somebody's up there. Like, if this dude was really that important, whoever was there to secure him should have secured him, should have checked the premises. They should have did all the shit that they did for Trump after. After the ear thing, which was. And also, if you are a public speaker like that, you gotta put. They gotta put you in the bulletproof glass. They gotta put you in the bulletproof glass. We interrupt the shooting at the college campus to report about the high school shooting. That wasn't crazy. That was a real American ass day. That really was. The two students in Denver who were shot, fortunately, they weren't killed, but think about that. That's crazy. It's also crazy that for three days this has been the biggest story in America. It's all they talk about. And I mean, I know people don't care about global politics, but Israel bombed Qatar, they killed five people, which is an extraordinary act of political violence. We saw a school shooting in Denver. We saw violence. I mean, I can name 10 other things that happened. I just can't believe that this is the only story we're talking about. And I know why they're talking about it. Cuz people are afraid if you traffic in ideas, you're afraid that if people start getting killed for their ideas, the whole thing can fall off track. And you're essentially dealing with that. He's popular. Yeah. I was gonna say it's almost the death of a celebrity. Yeah. It might be some level. It might be that simple. Because the Democrat. Two Democrats were shot, what, two months ago, one of them got shot in the House, right? Yeah. Yeah. And no, not a peep. Not a peep, not a peep. And again, the writer's like, oh, my God, this can't happen. It's like this always happens. Y' all just only care what happens to y'. All. Flip. Let me ask you something, though, because people online have been tagging me about you. Yeah. And I ain't responding to that, but I said, when we see each other, I want to hear what you were saying. You tweeted about it. Yeah. And some people didn't like your response. What did you tweet and why? How'd you do it? Basically, I was just saying that in a nutshell. Cause I don't remember the tweet, but I'm not as desensitized as everybody else is. All I saw was a man get shot in his neck. I didn't know too much about him. I saw it and I saw people celebrating, and I was just saying that to celebrate a man getting shot in his neck. Like that would happen to us as a people. That's all I was saying. I didn't know then I did research after to see what he stood for, what he was talking about when it came to black people and black women. I read the airplane bit that he said, or not bit, but about the airplane walking off. Still. I'm not desensitized like that. When I saw that you talked about being a father, too. A father, a husband. I'm just saying, like, his children have to watch that and stuff like that. So that's all I was saying. Not about the person. I just didn't want to see somebody getting shot in the neck and people celebrating somebody get shot. I think that's fair. I think that's fair, bro. That was my only stance. I don't stand up or stand with what he believes in, I don't stand up for. I don't give a fuck about. It's just that particular part. Yeah, yeah. I'm not. I'm. I'm with you. I'm not celebrating death. Me neither. Me either. That's not who I am. But real quick, I see a lot of people saying, hey, why y' all give a about his kids? He ain't give a about you. Why y' all give a about him? He ain't gonna. I don't give a about none of that. I just don't celebrate death. So somebody that's across the board, I agree with that. I got a few exceptions. But yeah, somebody. When somebody wrote something and they said that Martin said the same thing. Not like how I said it. Mark said the same thing, what Flip said. But I think it's the messenger, right? I think that how I said it. Like when you said you add a lot of caveats and you add a lot more details and you explain yourself. Well, to me, when I said it, it seemed like I was attacking people, but I wasn't. I'm just saying, like, we have to look at ourselves while we celebrating this. That's all. It's almost like you have to stipulate that he ain't shit before you say, I don't want him to get killed. And if you don't do that, then people think you are defending him or supporting him. Exactly. And that's. See, I'm not even. But see, but it's. Well for me. I'm not saying I don't want him to get killed. I'm just saying I don't celebrate death. Yeah. That. My spirituality won't let me go to bed. My paranoia, my. There's a list of things. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to go to bed at night if I Were happy about death, but I know we. And that's what makes me me and them. No, I don't make other people's feelings, actions and sentiments don't dictate mine. Yeah, true. Like, I'm not happy that he passed away. I ain't lose no sleep, right? I think that's okay. I slept like a baby. Not a wink. I slept like a baby. And when you start going back and you hear him talk about George Floyd, when you hear him saying black women and lying about George Floyd. Black women don't have a mental capacity to be taken taking seriously like that. It's like, yo, my, what you. What you put out into the universe. I really believe this. It's cyclical and it's coming back. I really, I just believe manifestation. I believe that. I believe in what you throw out comes back. And, and sometimes if you are amazing person, you are blessed beyond measure. And sometimes if you're a piece of. Whether you get it when you older or you get it when you younger, it's coming back to you. And I, I believe that. Yo, listen, Ish. We love somebody, Mark, who speaks against a lot of things, right. And I wouldn't want to put that in the universe if something happened to our brother because of his political views. So I don't want to put that out there in the universe and celebrate that it's somebody. And I stand with Mark and what he believes in. It's not radical like this, man. But there's some people out there, when you read about Mark's history, not radical. I'm pretty radical. Not radical at all. I'm just on the other side. Yes, Palm me. I mean, yes, it's not hateful. I think it's a difference. But hold on. There's some people out there if you. They got, they got a whole Mark file. I don't see the Mark file. Kirk made it. He had a deep dive, that guy. Some yo, I don't think it's fair to even play with Mark like this while we talking about this. I'm not putting him in the same. But what I'm saying. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I told Mark sent his little hot ass down when he first took this job. He want to go to a. These campuses. Yeah, no, I love Mark. Mark is my brother. So I don't, you know, and I'm happy that he's here to explain what I mean. I just don't want to put that in the universe or somebody with their views and like that. But I don't give a. About him. Yeah. Not at all. Yeah. So. So. So that's it? I mean, we'll see how this plays out. They do. Oh, I mean, pretty much. You want me. Come on. We not playing. Outstanding. You've been in your bag lately, you know that? No, baggie, bro. Don't start your with me. I'm just saying we never spoke about dude on this broadcast before. I barely knew who the he was. Just cause they pumping him up don't mean I gotta sit here. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's it. Sorry. I'm with Ish. The. The. The tongue is powerful. Pause. That was the wildest sentence, but it is powerful. The tongue is powerful. Yeah. Words have meaning, and them shits will come back. Like you said, the ball bounces back. Yeah. So, yeah, n. I'm careful in just what I say. Yeah, homeboy, though. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's all you got for us, Mark? That's all I got for y', all, man. That's all I got for y', all, man. I just want to. I. I'm glad we did the Charlie Kirk, then. I'm glad it was your idea. And I'm not being sarcastic. When I came in, Joe literally was like, we got to get on the Charlie Kirk. I'm saying that because sometimes the audience thinks that you, like, I have to pressure you to do serious stuff or pressure you to talk about important stuff. And I want to be clear here. You. You very much want to have this conversation and that you think it's important. Shut up, audience. I'm trying to support you. Oh, we ain't even got a board. He was so mad about the couch that we just got right. This shit flush. Yeah, them niggas all gonna spin back, though. Yo, dog, they gonna spin back. What? What are you thinking? He's conspiracy theorist. He think that. Who gonna spin back? Yeah, he did. The Republicans sent him. Listen, who Gonz if. If quote, unquote, they gonna spin back, and if all things are true across the board, who they gonna spend back to? Do you think he was intentionally made? The truth. I don't think the truth matters right now as much as you think it does. I know because I think they got the assailant, and they still gonna. They're gonna make him trans. They're gonna make him anti Christian. They're gonna make him. They're gonna make something that justifies. They gonna find something in his book bag in the bottom of his closet that has a Democratic. Or they're gonna lone wolf em. Get a Blue necktie. They also might lone wolf from her mental health. Yeah, but even if you lone wolf them on mental health, it takes the blame off, right? Yeah. No, they gonna. This is. This is the left's fault, no matter what. Yeah, yeah. Is what I'm saying. Oh, it's gonna be antifa. Actually, it's pretty easy to find. Yeah, yeah. That's gonna be the argument. That's gonna be the argument. And a lot, a lot of times these political assassinations and political deaths happen in waves, unfortunately. I mean, if you think about the 1960s, for example, I mean, if you just think about Kennedy dies, what, 63, Malcolm dies in 65, you got King in 68. I mean, forget you got Robert Kennedy, you got Medgar Evers. I mean, over this decade, lots of things happened and even. And sometimes people were angry and retaliating for things that their side did. And so. And when you have the government involvement, to your point, ice, where governments sometimes make it look like one person did it to stir up drama, misdirection. Yeah. Now suddenly you got people fighting, having the firing squad in the circle. So the right wants revenge right now. And they wanted it more when they thought it was, quote, unquote, us doing it. But I don't think the bloodlust goes away because this one kid happens to have a Republican family. I think it's quite possible that there's still, like, somebody's gotta pay for this. I'm sure. For sure. And it's gonna be y'. All. Right, Exactly. And that's why I think a lot of prominent speakers and a lot of prominent political pundits right now are saying, don't do that. Y', all, even on my side of the aisle, like, everybody calm down, cuz we're on the other side of this. MSNBC fired Matthew Dow. Did y' all see that? I saw that. I think that was another important thing. I actually wanted to know what y' all thought about that. For those who don't know, Matthew Dow is a very prominent political pundit, commentator, political strategist, has been really influential in major Democratic campaigns. He was an MSNBC political contributor. And I didn't think what he said was so crazy. He told the truth. But you can't tell the truth depending on what network you work for. What did he say? No, depending on what you stand. He said that homeboy was divisive and a bunch of things that related to him being divisive. Okay. Basically what we just said up here, very similar to what Ish just said and what Joe just said, right, which is you put a certain thing out in the world, you can't be shocked when it comes back. He didn't like dance on his grave. He may have two stepped a little bit, but he was kinda like, you put this shit out, comes back the next day. Rebecca Cutler, who's the president of MSNBC or the head, I don't know her exact role. Yeah, I think president of MSNBC fired him. Totally coincidental. Rebecca Cutler is the person who fired me at cnn. Total coincidence. But yeah, Rebecca fired him for that commentary saying it was insensitive. And this is a left wing network or a liberal network. So hypothetically, a lot of things that we thought are or look at as liberal networks have been a little. No, but the liberal networks be the pussies. That's true. Because the right wing networks, you can say whatever the fuck you want to say and they going back up theirs. They not going to fire nobody. They going to stand and ride. The liberal networks be like, you can't do that, guys, we gotta take the. Might offend someone. Yeah, someone might be upset. We gotta take the high road. And whereas Fox News be like, yo, kill em all, sort em out later, like they don't give a fuck. Right. When you protest, they'd be like, suck a dick. Yeah, basically. Yeah, so that's what's funny historically, right. They look at the liberals as the pussies, but they putting all the violence on the liberals. Right. Or when I'm so glad I'm not in politics. Me and I were. And I mean if. When I'm home alone in deep thought in my room, maybe we are in politics. I mean it plays a part because it affects us. Yeah, of course. But I ain't give a. I don't. I like a nice break from it, Charlie. I mean they're all friends. Is the like. Yeah, we the people get so left, right. Blue, red and they're all buddies. A lot of. Yeah, I think that. I think that divide is growing too. If y' all found yourselves related. Bond related. If y' all found yourselves having killed somebody, do you tell your parents? Like, would you tell your dad? No, probably not. No, I probably wouldn't. I'll try to tell nobody. If I had a close, close relationship with my father, I would. But I wouldn't tell my mother. I wouldn't. My dad was different. My dad would have told. He would have told. Yeah, he was straight as an arrow. Not because like my godfather, I would tell him, he'd be like, yo, what are we Doing? You kind of can't tell anybody you love because that could implicate them. It would implicate them and they would go to jail. Yeah, I wouldn't tell her like, yo, what you gonna do? I might tell my mom. Yes, you gotta do that. Some parents that help you hide the body. My mom would be more of the like, she wouldn't help me hide the body, but she would go to her grave protecting me. You know what I mean? Whereas my dad would be like, I'd like to report an incident. Nigga, they nasty. No one said anything. What's your father ethnicity? He was black, but he's from Georgia. Oh, okay. Yeah, he spoke with a very proper, educated Georgia accent. Did he respect the fact that he was a Mason and stuff like that? He knew that Mason. I said I was amazing, not that he's a Mason. You a Mason, you said, I heard you were a Mason. It don't matter. If I were, I would keep the secret sacred and the sacred secret. My brother got it. Okay. But my father was a Mason. Mason. Oh, my father was a Mason. I read that somewhere. On. Knew another Charlie. This boy here. Yeah, on another one. Yo, I know I wouldn't tell if I had killed somebody. I know I wouldn't tell if I just felt like going to Dunkin Donuts. Getting a donut. Who you want to tell as soon as the mic come over? Where you get that glaze from, boy? Yo, chocolate cream, boy. What's in your pocket there? No more. I'm a fry. You about that. That. But that cr. Come on, ice. We better talk about Charlie Wilson. Let's do it. Charlie Sheen. Charlie Wilson. Oh, another Charlie. We was going to Charlie Wilson. We was Charlie Sheen. We was doing Charlie Wilson. I thought Charlie Wilson. What happened? Charlie Wilson. What? What? Charlie Sheen did flip. Why you want to talk about Charlie Sheen? There was a Charlie Sheen. Got it. Okay. We talked about the last episode before you. Yeah, we talk about the last episode. Yeah. No, we talking about Charlie Wilson. Cuz the. The concert was last couple days ago. Charlie's uncle Charlie's R B cookout. Charlie Wilson, KC Babyface and El DeBarge. Wow. So when we first mentioned it, me and this was talking because he said Babyface was gonna be the headliner. Yeah. I'm like, nah, Charlie's gonna be the headliner. It's called Charlie's Cookout. I said, you said, what you want? Host Babyface is on the grill. It's cookout all you want. Baby faces on the grill. So I can't Confirm Charlie was the headliner. Oh, okay. My mom went. Went. Your mom went as well, right? Had a blast. It was. It was nice. My girl Asia went. A lot of people. I went, oh, okay. Yeah, my mom had a blast. She told me Elder Barge stole the show, sang all of them under the rug. Really? Yeah. I heard you saying, yes. Me and Ice, for the most part, got the exact same report. Yep. I heard Elder Barge is still him and sung everybody out of the arena. Or the Casey, he might need to lay off the dope for a little bit because his voice sounded like he did dope longer than Elder Barge. Looks like he did different drawings. That's crazy. Her baby Face came out and L was original adopter. Crack. That is. Well, he had the good shit. I'm sorry. He's chilled out from the sound of his voice. Yeah. Or he's just the most talented dude on earth, but. And I heard that Charlie Wilson thinks he closed it. Oh, so. So. So it was Mr. Face, Mr. Edmonds. And listen, I love Uncle Charlie like the next man. Of course, the report I got was he came out with a little attitude, telling the audience, this is my cookout. I brought all these people here. I don't care who comes out after me. But nobody comes out after. But you. It's Baby Face. No matter where you put him in the show, he going is a hard out. Oh, yeah, for sure. He could open, he could close, he could go before the Closer. And if he goes. If he so happens to go before the Closer, crowd might get a little lighter, you might get a little thin. Even if they don't, you might need some. Even if the crowd stay, it's just going to be a different. They're at the bar. So I heard that Charlie Wilson came out with his lighter attitude, tight about some things. Telling the people that he's responsible for all these motherfuckers being here. Thank you. I attribute that to Babyface coming on right before him tearing the house down. It's Meek Mills had a really nice bar. It is levels to this fam that Mr. Edmonds. And no disrespect. No disrespect to Charlie, Charlie or Nita. Yeah. But what can you do with it? Why do people keep putting Babyface before them? That's what I'm saying. I understand it. I understand it. It's just a mistake. It's an ego thing. You can't always go by the paper. If you go by just what's on paper, Babyface's solo career may not be headline worthy. Depending on if the Isley, bro. Whoever is here. Right. However. However. Babyface, at his age and health and pen, with all the hits he wrote, his backup singers are amazing. He still sounds good himself. No, no, I went to Babyface, yo. Yeah. Recently. So. Yeah. I ain't never seen him not kill it. Me either. And like you said, it's the producer pin. Because when he does. Can we talk end of the road. End of the road. When he does the Bobby Brown joint. Yeah, stop. When he does a whole entire soundtracks that he wrote that went. What are we talking about? Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. Shout out to everybody that went to that show. I am going to go in a couple of weeks. I'm gonna go to what's the one. It's coming. I'll be there the next show. I mean, the. The Queens show. Gladys Night number. Yeah, Gladys Knight. I'm going to that one. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I need to see Chaka Khan curse somebody out. Yeah. Chaka Khan gonna come out there and tell the truth about how they acting backstage. A Chaka Khan interview for me might be up there with Quincy Jones. Yeah. Chaka Khan gonna tell the truth about these hoes. Yeah. These hoes from the 60s. Chaka Khan. No, me too. Me too. What else is important? What else is unimportant? What's going on? What's popping out there? I want to ask y' all why Timbaland redid the message, But I'll wait. I saw. Because it's not that important. I saw that sitting in there and I was like, I'm not even. What message? The message. No, no, no, no. Not Mr. Mel. The message. Did he rap on it? Yes. Not Mr. Lying. Not Mr. Mouth. He uses AI shit. It's a cover. He did the verse. He did the song. Now, I won't lie. Let me not be phony. When the beat came on, I was like. He smoked that beat and then the rest of it. The rest of it happened. Can we hear it? Yeah. Tell Parks, player. Because I didn't purchase it. I didn't purchase it. So I explained it from my phone. It's out. This is in the new music section. I thought he was just playing around on Instagram, but I couldn't. Couldn't get far. Cause a man with a Tolchick reaper. That's why I caught that message. Yes. No. You know all the words. Do. I was on your prom. That's the last rap song. He knew the words, too. At my prom. You old. I was Six years old. Vampire blood. He look good to be old though. Look like 56. Six they said. Cuz Mel not here. His hair growing back. My secret car. See, I think that this is hard. Just this it, but just this part of it. See I'm going, I'm going. I'm out. Turn it off, please. Just bored. Turn it off. Tim. Chill out, Tim. Just bored, is he? Yo, that's it. Ain't no verses no more. I ain't got to do riches out or what. Yeah, let me just go up some classics I don't even like to beat. I'm not sure how to think about this. That's disrespectful to hip hop. I do think it's interesting. Hip hop covers is an interesting thing cuz in every other form of music there's covers and there's not really in hip hop except for reflipping a sample. So it's an interesting concept. I don't think it's very good. I hate. I don't like the concept. Yeah, I don't know if I do either. There shouldn't be hip hop covers. They shouldn't be hip hop covers. Because that's the covers. You don't change the lyrics. Don't you think that using covers would maybe lead to looking at our forefathers in a better light and extending the genre in the way that rock and pop and all these other genres use covers? Like I think that, yeah. Yes, there is something potentially cool about it. Not for hip hop. I would need this hip hop originality. No, hip hop is built on the writing. Whereas. Whereas rock, pop, R and B, the singing is the skill. So Luther Vandross could take somebody's and resing it, but I can't rewrite Mama said knock you out. You get what I'm saying? I'm not rewriting it. So it's not really the. You know what I'm saying? That's my opinion. But I think I had never thought about the connection because of. But I think what you saying, it would definitely shed light on how dope Big Daddy Kane was or how prophetic KRS1 was. I think those things would be dope for the newer generation. I just don't know how we pull it. Like maybe tweak them. I don't know how we would pull it off or just re. Or just redoing the song itself. Like for example, for keep the hook and rework. Yeah, like. Like oh, that's on doggy style. Snoop did Loty Doggy over. Right. You know what I'm saying it's. It got to be something like that. That was fire. He did was. That was fire. Yeah, I forgot that it got to be that way. Listen, I didn't. I ain't seen no song bring together like up. Hey, look at you. Like the Juice World. Sting joint. Yeah, yeah. With the Nas Reflip. Yeah. Shaping my heart. Nas, the message. The Juice World. My mother loved that. Now, I don't want to hear him do the Nas verse. This? No, that was the one that was. I never heard. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. You definitely heard. You just don't know you heard it. Cuz you 75 years old, but you heard it is. Where you going to now? You got your multi purpose outfit on. Lucy Dreams. That's the Lucy Dream. Oh, I know this one. And my man got a. Where you came from? Where you going now? Wait, hold, stop. He got a band on his hand. What? VIP show me the band. You just came a vip Take it off me. I need a night. Fuck. No. I love flip. I love VIP body. Straight to work. Why you got home? Oh, so you're saying this is last night's outfit? Last night. Oh, I slap you go home. Say tonight's outfit at all. We had it backwards. We did it. Got the VIP Y a T shirt and jeans. After this show, where you was at this complex. Complex? Oh, I know what you talking about. Can we say what it was? Build your complex. Me too. I'm divided. Get away from y'. All. Heard that joint was tough, though. It was up. Yeah, that was Kyrie's joint, right? No, it's tonight. Which one was it Kyrie? Shit. Today. Oh, which one was you at Complex? Oh, I didn't know if it was something. Why you asking my man question? You heard what he said? N. Right. Complex is all we need to know. So you showered with that thing? Yeah, I don't. Who walking around with a knife to cut the. I forgot. Literally. It's just so. It's so coincidentally. Yeah, that's the mother. It matches your jacket, too. You body that. This ain't that. You body that fit a T shirt and jeans. Wait, are you wearing that out tonight? Like to let the know I was somewhere. I was there. I was there. Yo, I was at the complex joint while y' all shouting out Kyrie. We gonna get into this Prize picks. But I do want to shout out Derrick Rose. He sent me a really fly invitation to his Jersey Rising thing that they're doing in Chicago. Oh, yeah, In a couple. He sent like a rose that's fine. I meant to post it. It's fire. Congrats to him for getting that. Yeah. Derrick Rose is a different generation to Allen Iverson. Say yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. True. Yeah, I'll go with that. Yeah. No, he is. Derek Rose is tough. Shout out to D. Rose. Yo, get the scissors when I do this. Give me a knife. You can throw me a knife. Scissors. Don't throw the knife. Yo, don't end it. That sounds crazy. Don't take it over yet. Throw me a knife. You gotta let him pop. You gotta let him do the whole. If Cory throw you a knife, he's good as dead. Murk me with a water bottle. Look at Cory floating around. He ain't got no legs. No. Look at Cory floats. What if he miss? He going to do stab me? No, stab me. Don't you know? I know. They keep getting up ricochet like now. You was outside. You didn't go home. What you mean, cuz? That white tea was from the store. I know that white tea. That white tea too crispy boy. That's from the back. You keep a three pack, boy. You keep a three pack in the trunk. Flip. Yeah, you said you didn't go. I'm trying to do that. I wasn't home. So go home. What's wrong with you, bro? Hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I love black people watching me. A white producer do this, you know? All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize pick Psych. Me and Ish are shooting at each other. That's my real favorite part of the show. I like. Don't. I don't want. Now who has copped more pleas More? You've never seen me cop a plea. Ah, yo, you always got to insert yourself in grown man business. You seen me cop a plea before Cheyenne Brian had you up there copping. Please, boy. That's a fact. Before. Before I got the receipt, before you went up there, we were discussing about when you. When she comes up here, what you were to going to do. That was the plan. Yo, when she come up here, da da. Stay there. And what did Antoine say? You said. I'm not gonna say what you said verbatim because I don't wanna. But you know what you said. I'm on it. I want you to tell I'm ready when she. She can't with me when it comes to these topics. That's what you said right here. Walking. I swear. I know. Even before that you said, nah, we here now. Everything that you go on is not an antagonistic thing just because we say the toxicity out for the universe. Okay? I don't got to go on a platform and have an argument with somebody. That's what we saying is. That's not what you saying. We saying you was mad agreeable. I wasn't. We are saying the same thing. Hey, yo, yo, y. That's what I was doing. Yo, this is stupid, bro. You was a different. I liked it, though. This. You got to wait till the beat drop. When the beat drop, that's when my hand starts dancing to the beat. You know, this part of getting. I don't agree with you. We would pot a lot better if when we called you on your. You would just say, you know what? Y' all got me. And maybe that applies to me, too. What? Maybe that applies to me, too, but we be having you a lot. I feel like I never said I was going to go to a platform and argue with Cheyenne Bryant. No, you didn't say. I'm not saying. What are y' all talking about? We saying you was a sucker. All right? We ain't trying to dress it up for you. So you can have your word back. Call me with. You went over there and agreed with what the young lady was saying, and I agreed with what she was saying, cuz. She was. You know what I mean? Was there anything you disagreed with that you didn't. That you didn't push back against? We didn't. My. We had 36 minutes on the stage, okay? So I tapped her and was like, go on, you, boy. You lucky cop. And a plea. That's what she laughing and said, let's do it. Where I'm from, that's. We didn't have no time. But that's a plea debate. And you said she wanted. She wanted the moments. I mean, like the viral moment, not like the. No, I tapped. I said, yo, you saying some. And she was like, what? And I said, man, we could go viral right now. She said, let's do it. And you said that right now? No, I looked at the clock. It was six minutes left. So it wasn't no time. She like six minutes. A lot of time. No, she was like, no, you was there, nigga. Stop acting like you wasn't there. I saw it, so shut up. Then act like I got up there and copped the plea to you was just too. Nigga, you was. Was driving. Driving Ms. Bryant. That's right. I was. Yeah, man. Ms. Bryan. Driving Ms. Bryant. Yeah, we too down. Ms. Bryant. She was cool. I can see she Was cool. Let me just say this. No. She won you over. Hold on. She didn't. She over. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Before they got on stage, she disarmed you? Yeah. You were gigantic. I could see how Char. I watched her. She was mad cool. I didn't even speak to the lady before we got on stage. That's not true. I did not speak to. That's not true. I know before. I'm talking about before we went on the stage. I did not have. Have five words with this woman in the front of the stage. Yes, and you jumped on her dick on stage. I didn't jump on anybody's nothing anywhere. I did not speak to her before we went on stage. Flip is lying. All right, my last point. I'm not. I'm not basing my questions on Flip. Yo. You're just sitting here lying. All right, so the front of the screen, in your opinion, you did. I bet you it was Mandy you was talking to. My fault. In your opinion, you didn't jump on Dr. Cheyenne Bryan's dick. That's my final question. Yo, Aki, stop your bro. There you have it. Some people look cool, though. Some people. They disarm you with a beauty with a knowledge. I've never been around a pretty woman before in my life. They all disarmed you. No, they haven't. They all disarmed you. Don't tell you I'm here. He ain't just talking to him. You've been disarmed. And beauties her name. Let's not act like we have machismo in here. We all have been disarmed. We have. Let's. Let's do that. I identify. I'm not trying to clown you, but let's. I said we have for a second. I said we have. Yeah, we going too crazy now. We be disarmed. I think you might lose your gun before me, but it's cool. Yeah. I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna do this again. You're right. I love my girl. Look. That's it. Look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 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This go for everything now looking at that ass ain't Jimmy Jim looking at why you notice that super fat looking at that. Looking at Prince looking At man. I'm about to throw a feet looking at. I'm about to go do a deep looking at about to drop go do a feet looking at the ground by Chuck Looking at it painted. This is not very good now. I don't know that it's AI though. It doesn't feel a ish or somebody imitating her. I'm not putting that on her. Do that accent. Yes. Yeah, probably could. Yes. But the flaws and it don't sound AI flawed to me. I'm hoping this is a bad song. Yeah, I think it's whatever. I probably was not intended to be released. Maybe. Maybe playing around or something. It leaked out. Yeah, it's still funny. It's funny. It's just bad. I ain't judging whether it's good or not. We ain't trying to sell records off the dog. Mariah the Scientist. Oh, Devil Looking at tight ass pants Looking at it A who four days late Looking at it looking at it Free gas fall desk crazy. It's some funny. I don't know. All right, boys, come on. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. I mean, you know. Yeah. Clowning in jokes. I hope it is her. I hope it ain't. I obesurated. You think she's better than that, huh? Yeah, yeah. I don't think you always gotta be good. What you mean? There's nothing to come. There's nothing good coming from. Let me just Thug and Mariah the Scientist. If you're Glorilla who's already on top of the world, like it's a moment to be funny. No, she just had however many Billboard charting like she's having. She's having fun seven a year or her and she got smart people behind her. So they would say that's why I don't dog. That's the reason we're not doing this. We're not. We're not doing this. If you want to do someone some play play skit type shit. And again, I don't know if this is fake. AI real, I don't know. But Glorilla's brand I like. I like Glorilla's brand responding like that because that's Glorilla's brand. I'm the hood ratchet from Memphis and yeah, I like some clown and yeah, yeah, I like it. I do. We got some thug. I did like this. I like a lot. This song was hard, but I ain't never heard this do so much whining. The put it on the track, the hurt for real. That's what we all took from the interview, is that this nigga's really hurt. All this is hard. This. Yeah, this is hard. Not. I can say. This is horrible. This is fire. The song is seven minutes long, so we're probably not. Yeah, but we gotta let. We gotta let him get some off though. Story Lanes rock. Hey, Story Lane. We gotta get a B drop, bro. It's kind of a long intro, if I remember. I don't care. It's a long intro. It's dope though, so. And then anytime I thought the beat was going to drop. Nope. He just kept going. Not to bring him up. If Drake had this, this, this, this. If any Drake song started like this, right now it's a rap. It would be a rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Hey, this. Wait a minute. Hey. And what a way to announce your album. That's hard. This. My biggest fears is losing you to the Internet. Waking up in our bed with you right by my neck saying don't you break a sweat. Pillow talking ain't my game. Pillow talking ain't my name. Pillow talking ain't my name talking to me. You think? Is it still a pillow talking if it's on a jail phone call? Yeah, young dog, you be pillow talking. Hey, pause this for a minute. I'm not about to. Yo, Ub, Pillow talk. We heard it's been released, right? It's out there. It was released so much that the jail stopped it. They said, all right, enough. We put. It's too many vocals out there. We can't. You be pillow talking. Nothing wrong with it. And you sound like you pillow talk with the best of them. Yeah, you give it up in that pillow anytime you was pillow talking. Mariah, the scientist didn't sound surprised. She didn't. You better leave it hurt, Mariah. He was doing so much pillow talking. It was like the Fat Joe Khaled interview. Yeah, it was one sided, man. Now we gotta. Now you gotta come home and clean it up. Clean it. Yeah. Now you gotta clean it up. It. Clean it up. Look at these niggas mashing me like Jesus. Cause I made it. Look at all this shit we been through. Baby crying in Mercedes. A jail call. I was playing, I never traced. You was encouraging me on my bad days. You picked the kids up despite me being away. That's why every day you wake up. I'm trying to make you happy. I'm sorry for being a part of these hoes laughing at you. I'm sorry for taking you from who? Yeah, just to put you through this madness on the reason you crash. That's an awkward one. That whole part is awkward. Like, yo, you ain't gotta. You know, it's like more embarrassment publicly. Yeah, he ain't the best rapper if we gotta understand every word he's saying. See, this is what we want right here. Yes, sir. This is what we want right here. You know, I ain't going against you. I got medals, everything you did. Wait a minute. For the jail call. You know the other calls we had trying to get you Metro and Pluto on the same page. The Internet don't nobody. Cause real don't say real do. And I learned that from you. We had our own differences, but Cash came through and got us on the phone. Like, why you a Cash beefing? He got us on the phone. He pulled up to my home. Ever since y' all niggas differences, it never passed done. It's darkness every day. I called Metro on the phone and told him, let it go. God damn, that is hard. That's hard, yo. That's hard. That is. This is what I want. Yeah. I mean, the podcast was great too, by the way, but this is a great follow up to that interview. It's a great way to clear up, well, all them leak calls and all of that. Like, yo, y' all know how we really talk. Like, and I'm gonna talk to y' all publicly so that the. So that the public can hear. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Vulnerable. Yeah. I fuck with it. Yeah. I like a rapper. I like a rapper going deep about what he's. What they're going through. Yeah, me too. While they're going through it every time. Like, don't come tell me 18 months after the fact. I love this. I love this. Even with whatever I may not love about it. I love it. It. It's hard. I, I, I respect it. Like, like you said the. That I don't. Like, I don't even care or like the fact that he just bared his soul on the track to everybody. Yeah. My family, my peoples, my girl, my everybody who felt like I did y' all wrong. Here it is. I'mma address it publicly and sound sincere in the tone and all that. Yeah, yeah. But you can't say all that and then go say that you want to have babies with the girl that your girlfriend already fought in the club who she caught a case over. Like, I tried to tell y' all last part. So now you get on the. So. Oh, mama here. I'm too drawn, too. Oh, I can't believe I almost lost you. That's how you gotta get back. You got one. You gotta get it back. You encouraged me while I was feeling down. I was unhappy. Yes. That's what I was saying. And. But here come the fucking jail tough guys. Yo, let me ask you. Or he had to stay alive. Get the out of here. Let me ask you a question. Get the out of here with this. Enough of this. I don't know enough. Yo, and listening to it because we don't know when that jail call occurred with that girl. That sounds when the fight occurred. When did the fight occur? It's online. No, what I'm saying is I listening back. I think that call might have been first. That call could have led to the fight. Some like that could have happened. That girl sound like she ain't spoke to Thug before. Really? That might be like her first or maybe second third conversation with him. How geek. She was on the phone and now my girl found out. Whatever. Or she's so extra with it. Came in and seen the list. She's sitting here showing that's how niggas. He caught that list. But that chick on that phone sounded like she would want it to be known that she's talking to him. So now you got these Internet games played. Now my girls see you like that, we could have had that order backwards. Yeah. Oh, now you playing. You disrespect me. Okay, cool. Listen, man. Women have killed. Cheating is over. If you're cheating. Stop it. You're headed down the wrong path and you're doing the wrong thing. Yes. For real. They say we always joke around about cheating and escorts and all types of shit. It's not good. Let's take a moment to kick the truth and respect your family. Let's take a minute. Honor your family. Exactly. Your children. You are a representation of them. Yep. Even when they are not around. Pick the person that you're most happy with, that you love, that you enjoy spending time with. It makes you happy. Support your. Your ideas, your movement, your business endeavors. The person you confide in. Talk and then ride out. All that cheating. All that cheating. Me. Especially after a certain age. Age. Put it to rest. What it really says about you is that you lack discipline. Yeah. You lack maturity. Yep. That's right. You're lacking in certain areas. Respect your queen. Respect your family. That's right. And that's always. And that's from us to y'. All. And that's from us to y'. All. Music better get your bars off. Yeah, man. Listen, you should Start right. That'd be dope. Yeah. You still got one? I do. It's in a box. That's dope. Who box? Who box? Oh, yeah. I'm happy you said that. Stop this. What you just said about my family. Nick, what I did, I wouldn't dare say nothing about your family. I love you. You lost your mind. I love your family. He loves your family. On my dressing, you're an idiot. I was supporting you. What else needs our attention in music? Yo, I had a music question for y'. All. What's up? True. I was listening to the new Kwame album. Okay. Because I wanted to. I love how much you love Kwame. Cause I love Kwame. Yeah, I do. And the 12 year old in me wanted this to be like a five mic, amazing comeback album. And the album's fine. I mean, it's not a bad album, but it sounds, like, dated a little bit. And Kwame's an amazing producer. He makes great music. I guess the question is, when older artists make music, what's the blueprint for a successful record? Getting up with somebody that's current, Right? I don't think there's a blueprint for a successful record. I don't believe that. Okay, say more like, so a rapper who we admire, we love. It says Joe Budden Parks. I'm coming out right now with a new record. What are some things you're at least thinking about for them to make the record successful? Because you don't want them to sound like the kids, but you also don't want it to sound like it's 86. Six again. Hey, I'm not. I'm not. I don't want to music nerd us out. I. I'm hearing this differently. It's a case by case. Yeah. I would ask what that person deems as success. Okay. There is no across the board definition of success. I thought LL's last project was a success. I thought that was an amazing album. He sounded his age, he sounded current, but he didn't go far from his roots. That's what I was looking for. Okay. He didn't. He didn't look to be somebody else. And he connected with his base no matter how old they were. I thought that was successful. Okay. You know, if l came out trying to hit top 20 on the Billboard, even if it hit it, it might be weird. I wouldn't look at that as a success. Although it depends. I mean, if he did the. It can be done, but it could be awkward if you tried to rap over, like, Modern. I Guess. Yeah. If he looked like he was trying to do that. Trying to be Lil Baby. Yeah, that was sound. That was. That was. That was sound. You know who's pretty good at doing that. But he don't really get the credit buster when, like his last two projects he dropped were good projects. He don't get the commercial success and the Billboard and all of that. But it sounds like I'm still being me today. I think a better example for me would be Fat Joe. Fat Joe, when was it? I don't even know. I mean, it's been a while since he had another hippie. Probably got. I'm just talking about project. I don't remember his last. I'm just talking about like he always managed to get one out that's dope and doesn't sound like it's trying. It sounds modern, but it doesn't sound like it's trying. All the way up was the last one. I mean, like commercial success. No, that was his last hit. But that Joe has released. He's released music. Yeah. Fat Joe knows how to make music. Yeah, he does. Yeah, you can hear that a lot of his production too. Like getting good music and like executing it well. Especially from like legends. It really is hard to listen to a legend over like really bad production, really bad mixes. That's what I like about a lot of times. That's what I like about Rakim's last album. Okay. I was like, it found the sound was a little dated to me and it just wasn't great production. I know some of it he did, which is why he. He put it out. I was like, I wish he had gotten some support on that. Whereas, like, when Tribe made their final album, it was like a masterpiece. Partly because of the lyrics, but also because it's top flight production with llc. To me, what I loved about is not just the raps is that he wasn't chasing hits, but he did have a modern sound. Like, it still sounded like the album came out in 2024. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? Which is different than some people who don't split the difference. Well. And the last Woo album was like that. So I'm always trying, but then I see so many people swing and miss. And while we naming all these old niggas, I mean, Nas, I was just. I was waiting for him to stop. I was gonna say Nas kind of set a blueprint for that almost. And I've got with a current producer right where I could still be me. The key important part is still managing to be you, like, sometimes you hear people trying to be like. It's just said, if he's trying to be a little baby, it ain't going to resonate. Right. It also depends on how distinctive of a sound they have, because we got a new Mob Deep record today, and it sounds like a Mob Deep record. You know what I'm saying? If you have that distinctive a sound, just give us your sound. Stronger than never. I'm back. It's against the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, New York is just one crumb on the map. One crumb ain't a lot. You happy with that piece? I'm gonna need that pie to satisfy my thirst. Pacify my greed for blood, money and power. Inventory. Turn me to a monster like this. Sounds like a Bob Deep or Prodigy record. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't sound like. It's weird. It don't sound like you're trying to be something you're not. Right? Right. So if you have that distinctive sound, I think just staying with that kind of distinctive sound is important. I don't think there's anything wrong with them getting put. Going into camps with the younger artists but still keeping their sound, but seeing how they could be able to adapt to if. If you can do it successfully. Yeah, yeah. See nothing wrong with that. Listen, I don't with Tekashi at all. However, if Shotty and them was standing behind him during his Little Young Thug Dis, he's out of here. I didn't know that happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is dog. Y' all lucky that we don't with this. There's a chorus on this. Oh, I think that's the chorus. Oh, that's the chorus. Oh, Don't Tell the World didn't really love that chorus, but I see what they were trying. I see what he was doing with it. Yeah, I like. I don't comment on him either. That might have been my first time commenting on him since 2018. Oh, my God. But I heard it was like this little motherfucker can make a song sometimes. Sometimes you gonna run into somebody you just don't fuck with at all. You just gotta. God damn it. No, he can put it together. Yeah, he can put it together. He's just him. So it's over. There was a tweet floating around that I wanted to ask you gentlemen about. This is from a gentleman named the Black Sheep who says dress. Shout to dress. No, this is not dress, but shout out to him. It might be dress. Let me check. Nah, this is dress. Paid in Full will be developed into a TV show, another show about drug dealing, killing, and degeneracy. Yay. The community will champion this and in the same breath, be tired of slave movies, though. I think it's. I thought it spawned an interesting conversation. I think in the inner cities of America, we can relate to. Yeah. Drug deal industry. A lot of niggas saw this. Yeah, we saw it. A lot of people identify with it. Nobody lived a slave life, so it's something that's unrelatable to a lot of. Of people. Like, you read it in historical context, but you didn't see it. You don't visually or emotionally tied to it. Like, niggas had uncles that was in the streets or aunts that was getting high or brothers that went to jail or was doing those things. So some of that shit takes you back to a time period that we actually lived. So what you're saying is you understand one being romanticized. No, I just think the relatability piece is what allows people. People to say, okay, cool, where's the slave? Because you said that we said, yo, we tired of slave movies. Which I don't say, but we're tired of slave movies. I think people don't necessarily relate to the slave movies. And not just that. And a lot of these, you know, paid in full power, all of that. They make the drug dealer look like the hero. True. The winner. True. Like, ain't no winner. Ain't no black winners in slavery. Nat Turner. But they don't. In the slave movies, they don't make it look like they're not lifted up as, what, drug dealer in power? No, I'm just saying that the ghost was a fly. I mean, during the show. Yeah, during the show. Fly, nice. Penthouse moved around, and stealth kind of dope way. So. But do you think that there are parallels between the content that y' all are referring to and the slave content? That's what the question. I'm sorry. Outside of them both. No, no, no. Outside of them both being. I can say. Because what they say about the slave movies is we tired of here. We tired of saying is we trauma. We continue to let these companies and these white people tell our story, which is the same story of slavery, slavery, slavery. How they depict us and why they depict us that way is to keep us programmed and to be subservient. There's a whole stay there. So do you think that there are parallels between that and. Cause I think when you see ghosts, you see the opposite of that. Like, if you see a slave movie and you see these niggas being subservient, being whipped, being all of those things. And then you see Omari Hardwood putting on a tailor made suit, walking outside, owning a club, looking like fly. Yeah. So I think he won. It looks like. It looks like he won until the end. So I don't think the two are parallels. I think they both could be detrimental to our communities. But I just think that it's different. I think one is relatable and one is not. And so I think that's why niggas welcome that. But is it the same result? Like in listening to y', all, one is dressed up, so it's pretty, but the result is jails, deaths and institutions. Yeah, I think the drug one is more dangerous. Please expound. Cause I mean, first I get why people are drawn for some of the reasons they're saying, but go ahead. Yeah, exactly. I mean, people are drawn to heroes, right? Everybody wants to see themselves as a hero. And drug dealers are heroes. And we love outlaws. I mean, that's what made blaxploitation so great, is that you got to see niggas was beating people up, doing karate. Beating up white people. Beating up white people. They were winning. Whatever winning looks like to you. And that's why we love the drug dealer. Cause there's agency in it. I get to determine my own destiny. I get to create my own path. I get to quote, unquote, win. I think the problem with the slave movies, quote, unquote, is not that people are enslaved. It's the kind of stories we tell. If we start showing, making movies about people enslaved, sneaking to teach people to read, overcoming their oppressors, you know what I mean? Developing religious practices, making new cuisines. You know, there's different kinds of stories about slavery. You could tell where we would be heroes in it. We don't tell those stories. And I think, to the point, Hollywood doesn't want those stories told. They want us to. They want us to believe that we had a history that started with slavery, not a history that was interrupted by slavery. And so that's why they tell the story that way. I think these stories have a greater sense of empowerment attached to them. But the problem is, the reason I say they're a greater detriment. He read that little line somewhere. He smoked that line. He might have wrote that line. That's Miz. We talking about Miz. That's you. That's you. Y' all want to learn the truth? Interruption. Yo, see, here you go. You got a pamphlet on you. What do you? Say again. What did he say? Say it one more time. Slavery started our history. It didn't start our history. It just interrupted our history. Yeah. Nah, that was. That was fire. That was a bar right there. You smoke that, man. But if you think about, like, the problem with the drug dealer movies is you walk away feeling empowered, like, yo, I could be this person, that person. I can control my own destiny. But then you start to believe the drug dealing is a real path out, and it's not. I mean, for 99% of the people, you end up incarcerated. And you lose sight of the fact that you're killing the whole community to do it. And we romanticize the drug dealers and demonize the drug addict. You know what I mean? As if they're. As if. You get what I'm saying. As if they're not connected. You can't have one without the others. So when you had that kind of relationship, it's even more dangerous to meet in the slave movies. So I'd rather see ten slave movies than ten drug dealer movies. Well, that's where I jump off. But I agree with your points before that. At that level, I'm saying at the level of. If I had to pick one, I think we can do both. I don't dislike. I mean, I love all the movies, but if I had to pick one, in terms of what's gonna do less harm to it, I'd rather us learn about the history of slavery than have a bunch of Nino Browns. There you have it. And I don't think that's just applicable to us with regards to the drug dealing movies, because we praise white movies tremendously. All of the white movies that worship drug dealing, guns, organized crime, violence, everybody. Godfather's in everybody's top 10. Niggas love heat, Niggas love casino. Niggas love all of these movies. When a white person is being portrayed as the quote, unquote, gangster or bad guy, we give them critical acclaim. When we are being portrayed as the quote, unquote bad guy, we look at it with a skewed view. I think that. I think that takes the conversation elsewhere. Cause there are no white slave movies. I know. No, I said I took away the slave piece. I'm talking about just the gangster shit. If you take away the slave piece, then, yeah, we love shit. We love all the movies. If you take away the slave piece, I think the point. But they don't look at them like they detrimental. They don't look at Godfather like it's detrimental. They don't look At Heat like it's detrimental. They don't look at Casino like it's detrimental. You understand what I'm saying? These niggas was killing niggas, burying them in the desert. We don't look at. We like, oh, that's fat. Hit that nigga with the aluminum whack. Like, we look at it with a different lens. That's what I'm saying again, I think that. Cause my man's question wasn't really about that. He just saying, why do we look at one like we tired of these, but we look at these like we can't get enough of these. You got a point. Because I'm sitting there thinking like Breaking Bad is a lot of people's one of their top TV shows. And you don't look. You don't even selling at it that way. You don't look at it like they selling white dude teacher selling Niggas love Ozark. Ozark, yeah, all this. They was committing every crime in the book in fucking Ozark. And niggas don't look at his relatability. Yeah, niggas. It's just all about relatability and what you want to be or become. Like, you go outside and you see these people, all the drug dealers that you know in your life or that you watch nice cars, women, you know, next thing. So you like to watch somebody come from poverty. And in the end, even though we don't think about what happens at the end, we don't think about the jail. Just to see once they make it out, we just. We like the steps, we like the pattern. Flosh it. And then that right there. Oh yeah, I want that. You think they want Weeds? It's short term sites. The show Weeds on Showtime was a white suburban bitch that started hustling, selling weed. And I think we far away from the point of this tweet. I think it's progressive, the conversation. Yeah, I think we just moved the conversation. But to homeboy's point was we shunned one. But you praised Move it to. Where we moving it to? I'm with y'. All. Y' all naming the fire white shows. That's on bullshit. But those are the people that they are the people that are also responsible with the telling of their story and the white whitewashing of ours. So those people would be allowed to be whatever they want to be. Because we're going to change the curriculum in the school. We're going to change the heroic firefighter. Firefighter. That was at 9 11. We're going to make him white. We going to paint our story so we could be all of it. Y' all can only be the slaves and this bullshit. How do you think that a black. So I don't think. Yeah, I think we've. How do you think that a black producer would tell a drug dealing story? A story about a drug dealer? What do you mean? Different scenes? Look at New Jersey. What I'm saying. Power is black people. But how is that. It's not different. You're saying that it's different, right? You're saying that compared. When white people tell it. No, I think you said white people get to tell a multitude of stories as far as themselves or tell them about themselves. He used the word whitewash. Our story. So they take to me. And I don't wanna speak for Joe, but for me it's that white people. I don't wanna say white people. Cause it's not the point. The power structure. Yeah, yeah. Represents black people in a very narrow stream of ways. Yes. Whereas whiteness gets a wide range of representation. So a white person has the luxury of being a drug dealer or a suburban school teacher that cooks crystal meth or Jersey Shore. Because when I think of. I don't walk into a room meeting parks for the first time and think, yo, you probably like that dude from Jersey. Sure, yeah. But when people come from across the world and walk here and see y' all dressed the same way you're dressed, you know, look at all of us. They might think you're like the people from power. Because there's a very. Because TV represents blackness in such a narrow stream of ways. As violent, as irrational, as immoral, as hypersexual. Like, that's how blackness gets represented. So for me, the issue isn't that drug dealing gets put on tv. It's that that's the only story that's not true. What happens is. Well, just let me finish the thought. I'm sorry. That's the only story that gets told where. Whereas with white people. No one associates the Godfather with everyday white people. Well, to be fair, I do have one slight return. It's like when I first moved to Astoria and I saw the old Greek and Italian guys walking around on the street hanging out all day, drinking coffee in a suit. I was like, is that my man from the wife? Respect. Fair enough. Fair enough. I a thousand percent agree with you that the representation. They look at that as a minority. Right. If you see Tony Soprano, that's a minority. That's not an everyday white person. I think what happens is and some of this is our fault. That when we put out product that shows black people in another way, we don't support it. So it gets canceled. It'll get a season, it'll get a pilot, it'll get some shit. And the numbers don't test well. Or nobody goes to the movie to see the photograph. Nobody goes to the movie to see other quality black. Missed a hell of a movie. Movie. I saw it. No, for the people that didn't. Oh, yeah. Like. So nobody will go support that. So now it's not encouraging to keep putting out quality products. I don't like that narrative necessarily either. Because movies like Was it Moonlight and if Beale Street Could Talk or not. That they're not gangsta. There's not. And they didn't do crazy. They went to the. They won Oscars and like, listen to this. But that's another conversation. I'm a t. Attacking the power structure before I attack the support at that. No, no, But. But that. But that lends to them allowing this money be a lot of part of the. We can agree with that. That's. If you're giving these the benefit of the doubt. No, true. Money is a motivator. And that's the. That's the conspiratorial group. Yeah. I think it's both. Fam. Go ahead. Black Panther made money. A lot of it. A lot of money. So we said, you know what the blacks did that get the Spanish is a trial in part two. Fam. Money talks my. So we could say whatever we want to say. If we support black shit, hopefully, God willing, they'll be more inclined to put more black shit on TV. We ain't have a Love Jones in 30 years. Best man. All of these movies we don't have. It's. It's. We could do the. You're right. I mean, the cosmic. I just watched something on HBO about black television. I watched something on HBO yesterday about black television when they showed all the black shows at one point. They just took them all off of television at one point. And like, when the black show. So they were saying that. I think it was Fox or had Sister. Sister. And when the show was doing good and when they started to get it rolling and they got the NFL so they moved Sister Sister To a new channel, which was the wb, so they would explain the things that. How to use black television to. I don't. Build up a network. Build up a network. And then it was much more than just black. Channel nine, you talking about. I seen the clip. There's A few clips of this. All the times that black people have saved a white company. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. And there was a long list. That was crazy Cadillac. I didn't know that. Black people save Cadillac. What? Then there's another joint going around of the five most popular cultures in America. And blacks were number one. Well, duh. Duh. Number. Real interesting. One and two. Two was ill. To me. It was two Japanese. Japanese. Really? I can see that. And then they listed. Somebody Google this and find. I see that. Because underneath they were saying all the things in America that are from. From this ramen. They named ramen. Yeah. Cuisine would be. I would put American culture. Meditation. Oh, yeah. They said minimalism. Okay. They said, like, there was so much that I didn't even connect to that. I think. I think Latin culture would be bigger because I remember when we were third, I would put them second personally. But that's just me. When I was in Europe for a month on tour, you know how 10 years ago, the biggest thing I was. I was like, yo, you don't really realize how ingrained certain aspects of Latin American culture are in our lives until you're completely without it. Cause they have Spain. Spain, they don't have Latin culture. You know what? That's a New York. That's a real New York thing. Because that may be true. When you go, like, to the Midwest, when you, like, we take Dominican culture, Puerto Rican culture, all of that shit. Like, that's the norm when you go to the Midwest. When you go other places, it's not as heavily. Well, my retort to that would be better. Mexican culture is still. No, no, it's still. Especially food. But it's different. It is. It's different. If you go to dc, you don't necessarily have as much Latin influence and Latino. I mean, not just Latin influence in D.C. you'll have a bunch of North African stuff. You got a whole bunch of Nigerians, you got a whole bunch of Tunisians, Ethiopians, et cetera. Ethiopians are prevalent in D.C. it's none here. You get what I'm saying? So it's kind of regional. It is for sure. But to that, the article that you were talking about, they broke that shit down in a little bit more subversive way that we wouldn't even think about, like, meditation. You're never gonna equate meditation to Asian culture necessarily. You get what I'm saying? So Eastern philosophy in general. I do have the clip here. I was a little scared because I had to download Facebook. And with the events of the Other day. I'm a little scared to be on Facebook right now. I'm sure it's a mess over there. Airport going crazy. I do have the CL. They're the most influential culture. This is K104FM, Dallas, by the way, in America, black. I saw this list. I thought it was so interesting. What you think? I thought it was so interesting. The top. Right. I can kind of probably remember some of them. Tell me who you see. Who is it? Like, Indian culture. I wish they would have said number five culture is number four. Number four. Yeah. They didn't say five. Indian culture. These are the most influential culture in America. Yes. Indian came in at number four. Who else came in at number four? Mexican culture. I'm in at number three. Latino culture. Yeah. Latino culture. Came in number three. Yeah. Latino culture. Oh, I noticed. I'm just trying to hear where she. Where she explains each. Japanese. Japanese is the number two culture in America. And I never. I didn't think that. I thought Latino culture. Yeah. But think about it, though. We. Japanese culture. They have meditation, they have teas, martial arts. Wait, they get tea? We giving them tea? Yeah, yeah. What they're saying, they're saying Japanese culture. Big part of a lot of sushi, anime, video games, Nintendo, PlayStation, martial arts, meditation, martial arts of the culture. The Japanese culture. Yeah. I would still think that the Latins got them beat. I would say so, too. Especially because Latin America is literally physically a part of our continent. Like, Japanese got it, bro. No, I'm not going. I'm not rolling. But it's cool. Minimalist. Like, they don't have too much. They got them. Can we pop our. I don't think they got it. Let's pop it, cuz. I'm getting ready to tell you the number one influential culture. Oh, duh, duh, duh. Stupid. Number one. The USY awards. Slang, language, life. The language. Influence, street wear. Everything. Styles, everything. Dominance in sports, entertainment. Dominance. Culture at large, they say the number one most influential culture in America. We got it. We got a big dog. That ain't no doubt. Yes. Yeah, I'm gonna delete this app off my phone immediately. I don't want to see it accidentally click it on the. They're absolutely right. Zuckerberg going to text you like, hey, yo, y' all, get up and build me a sphinx. Yo, word. And chop the nose. Dead ass. Chop the nose. No, no, leave the nose. Leave the nose. Leave the nose wide. For real. Broad nose. Build me a club and a sphinx with spinning lights. Both ours. That's where he lost what is wrong. That right there is where he done lost me. What's the matter? Balls? We sick. But it's our sphinx, though. It's our club. Our house on Fireball. Changing goddamn thing. If we ain't gonna be able to task. Grab it. This. I'm going back to what's the planet? Risk. Risk. I'm going back to Risk. I'm going back there. What else, what else, what else? What? Real quick. You know who put. I went last night. I went to see W. Clef at the Blue Note. Shout out to Clef. I gotta tell you, yo, you don't invite nobody. I told y' all about this two months ago, and y' all laughed at me. Me, Mark, Why would you tell me anything two months ago? But if you laughed at me, why would I bring it up again? I'm laughing. We got this thing called a group chat, right? And all you got to do is Marcus. Yo, I'm hitting such and such tonight. Anybody want to with him? I'm trying to go get that Louisiana crawfish soup or whatever that is that got the blue. He's there tonight if y' all want to go. I'll go again. Jersey. Damn. Work day. Work day. It'd be hard. It'd be hard. I go tonight. He was a great. He put it was. I mean, it was a great, great, great show. He's one of the best performers in hip hop. Yeah. Regardless of what you think about it has been for a very long time. Was Jerry Wonder there? Jerry Wonder was there. He came. He came up and hit the stage to do Maria Maria. And to do. They did this great extended Guantanam Latin culture. It was amazing. Peter Guns was in the building. He came up to the free. Well, he was always in the building, but he did like a freestyle and did a little bit of uptown just in the crowd. He was just in the crowd chilling. John Forte was in. John Forte was not there. Shout out to my brother, John Peter Guns. What could have stayed. You don't do that to Peter Gun out. And he got a classic, too. That. That works anywhere in the world. That's a fact. That's not the point of what I'm saying. If I'm at the spot with my lady, we chilling, we eating the soup, we got apps, drinks blowing. And Peter Gun just seated right there. And at any point, he get up, he get up. Gotta get past you, your partner, and go to the stage. I'm going, pardon me, yo. Damn. Somebody did do that. When? Last time I went to Blue Note, somebody came out in the audience and walked by everybody trying to do a little dap, bro. Damn. I was somewhere where Peter Guns did this recently, too. But I like Peter Gun when Clef came down. This is an old episode, by the way. I logged into Facebook today. Facebook. Melly. Melly. Mel. This has been a. Kwame. Kwame. This has been a lot going on. It's Charlie Wilson and Babyface. Peter Gunn. Yeah. Shaka Khan. Yo. Are we the last ones? We just. We old. It's all right, though. We out of here. It's over. Not we. You old too. Flip, you here. Almost. Almost. Why do you think you're not old? He tried that. It's not about that. Your whole beard is gray. Every time you stand. Cause I'm stressed because of you. That's what my beard got. You stressed? Yeah. Wait, you stressed because of being up here? Because of you? Yeah. You know better than us. Say something. You know, we. We can't. We can't. Nigga, I'm trying to reel you out. Don't edit me out. We can't. Just don't edit me. Don't say nothing you ain't supposed to say. I mean, your firing is tremendous. Then you have bazookas and all that. But my. My little nine gonna get you right in the gut. You gotta. That right there, that sounded. That sounded kind of crazy. That right there is. It's been a big problem at the workplace that right there has been such a big problem. We'll be explain. At the workplace with people that thrive in rebellion. True. Spoken by a person that thrives in rebellion. And that's me and you. And you passed it on. No, no, no, no, no. And you brag about it too. So when do it? You don't like it, you brag about, oh, hey, a couple of these get with me. Hey, I put my foot down. Hey, I believe in myself. So now when other believe in themselves, like don't believe in yourself around me, you know what I've done, you know, don't believe in yourself around me Chances that I don't come around me don't come around me with all that I believe in myself. I brought you guys in front of a change. Nobody give up like you. You drive. Don't point at me and get some type of euphoric high off of rebellion. Nigga, I'm still mad about that stock shit you took out. We can't talk about it. But you said some shit. I had to go. Are getting fired. When I get my cast here. When I get A, I need you right here. Don't touch me. Don't touch me right now. I'm not firing. Cause. But I need him. But the second I don't need you, buddy, you're at it. And what do you think will happen? Well, hopefully you signed a paper that said you can't talk about nothing to happen. I would never do that. I'm gonna pay you for it now. Money can't buy that. Yes, it can. Yes, it can. No, it can. All right, all right. Forget it. We done. I ain't just get on here live. We can buy that signature in a New York minute. Loyalty and friendship. Oh, that. Oh, please. Anyway, moving on. Moving on. Hey, I signed it twice. Me, too. I put the law. Yo, you know, I've been fired from jobs and they paid me. There ain't nothing flying in it. Oh, yeah, there's nothing flying in it. Yeah. Damn. Love the job. Really wanted to come to work, man, I'm getting fired. But that's the right way to buy. Isn't mine now. Severance. Thank you. I love it. CNN paid me for the whole year. I got paid two years when I left Liberty. Word. I ain't even talking about severance. I didn't have nothing in the contract that said I should be paid upon firing. Oh, they just did. People being good people. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just people being good people. Yo, you was good to me, I'm being good to you. That's real. That's fine. That is our friend for life, Joe, if you could do it again. Again. Let me take it again. Let me ask a better question, Joe. If you could do it again or if you could control the past, would you feel double things twice? I'm sorry. Sorry. See, Joe, would you allow that 20 million leak? That's a good question. That's a good question. Which 20 million? Depends. The one that leaked about him or the one that they offered him before? I can't give an honest answer to that. And into at least another six. You can't let them know you leaked it. Well, I leaked it. That's not the secret. Why you can't give an honest answer. I did that. Why you gave that comfortable. You know what I'm saying? You're struggling over there. Why you gave honest answer until another six months. I'm watching. I'll be in your phone. Why you can't? Because I see both sides of Mark's question. I see why you shouldn't have. True. And right this second, I could see why you should. I could see Both sides of it. There's been a lot of positive perks ever since that leak happened. For who? Some negative for the company and some negative. Okay. And some negative. Has it been positive? Has it been net positive for y' all or net negative? It's negative. Don't affect me. Don't affect you? How about you? Ish. How the fuck affect me? I ain't got nothing to do with it. I know when it first happened, a lot of y' all were, like, getting phone calls. That ain't shit, though. That ain't affect nothing. There seem to be some people. There's a theory floating, you know, there's like, disarray and everything's been in shambles ever since you leaked it. Wait, is that what's floating? I didn't see that theory floating. Yeah, I know it's there. Cause I. I put it in my burner and everything. I wrote it. Anything that's in shambles was in shambles before the leak. Let me me glit then. No, it wasn't moves. That was. Yo, what type of pod Y trying to have? Hey, I wish I could talk. What's happening? Yo, kick me out. What's happening? Fire me right now. You working on it. Fire me right now. No, you. You. I swear to God, I leave this. I. Cory got to change me. I'm taking cameras and all that. I'm leaving in the bank. Joking. Y. I'm joking right now. I say yeah. Right now. I say yeah. That's subject to change in the next six to 12 months, though. Okay. I think. I think it's still playing out. I think the vibrations that sent out are not done playing out. I see. They're not done. It's still in effect, so you still gotta have. Yeah, yeah. Too close to call. I got you. Yeah, yeah. But I have no problem answering that. And six to 12 months, because that is a great question. What else needs our attention? What's this Spotify thing? Oh, that's important, actually. That's important as it pertains to the 20 million dollar question too. Spotify has updated their terms and conditions. And because nobody ever reads terms and conditions, we just agree and keep shit moving. That's me, that's everybody. It's unfortunate you. You read them, though. It should be long as hell. A lot of is. Spotify does it to artists again. Now, when you upload your music to Spotify, keep in mind you're basically signing a record deal without a lawyer. When you click that. Terms of service, the updated terms of service make it clear Spotify gets sweeping royalty free sub licensable. Now look that up. Irrevocable. Look that up. Hey, when that works, your content, everything from playlists to cover images and descriptions, it's not just standard, it's a full on AI ready takeover of your creative output. Imagine this. You upload your music and Spotify can rework it, remix it, train their AI with it it or even assign the rights over to someone else without owing you a dime. You're effectively handing over your copyright control just by using the platform. So while Spotify draws a clean line saying outsiders don't train your AI with our data, it keeps all the rights for its own AI and you just gave them all your power. That's scary. That's fucked up. Spotify is an abomination of a company. Has been for a long time. Really. They're monsters. I mean I don't. I'm not disagreeing. I just didn't know. Are they worse than the other comparables? Are they monsters the way they are? Way worse. They pay everyone a fraction of a penny for saying that for yeah. They are by far and away the least favorable to creatives. Okay. That's nasty right there though. That is crazy on the converse. Tidal is now introducing a direct distribution system. It's not implemented yet, but while we're highlighting shitty people, I would also like to highlight great companies that pay people well. It's gonna be called Title Upload. You can basically bypass the tunecores and distro kids of the world and upload directly through title themselves. United Maskers s I guess. Yes. Sort of. Sort of United Masters is a little bit more like Empire but. Gotcha. I don't know if I'm gonna continue uploading Spotify. I don't know if I heard that announcement. Yeah, I've been kind of. Yeah, you. You off. DSP is different right there. Yo, we can rework like we work your shit, remix it do. Basically it's ours. You just gave it and you gave us the ability that if we want to have our robots sound like you. No, not wanna. Not wanna. That's. No, I'm going. Yeah, we're to. There's hope there. That's scary. They're going to. They're going to take your. We don't need you no more. You're all going to train this then you're going to. We got enough data over the last 10 years that we could do it now. Right. And maybe that's too big and too scary to ignore. Yeah. Around. It's a Hit record of yours out now that you ain't even make. That's crazy. And you ain't getting a dime off of. And it's a hit. And. And the AI is ever learning. Like every day is teaching itself that shit is crazy. The bottom line is there needs to be big copyright changes to include the AI developments. Because all that shit is doing is sampling. Whether it's music or literary works or visual works, it's just sampling. It's taking everybody's shit and reworking it into a new thing. And it's illegal. Yeah, yeah, like full stop. You could literally tell the shit to yo, I want you to sound like a Midwestern person and have applicable slang. Da da da, da, da da da. And it's gonna go listen to all. To your point, it's gonna go listen to all of these Midwestern TV shows, documentaries, whatever the case may be, and steal from it and incorporate it into your next presentation. Correct. That is crazy. My nigga. Yo, in the great words of Wu Tang, protect your neck as much as you can. Yeah. Honestly, the Internet is surprised that Miguel has a one year old. Why? Congrats, Miguel. Yeah, congratulations to Miguel. Miguel's album next month. I'm one who believes that all of this hootenanny is going to make this album all the way. Fire. Fire it, man. Yeah, I believe that. And they're getting on me because we played the wrong Miguel song. They said last time we played a Miguel song, the new Miguel song. What was wrong about it? That it was an old song that we played. Oh, really? That's what they said? I don't know. It was new to my. New to my page. And the Internet is angry at him for having a child because he was with his wife or ex wife, I'm not certain. For 15 to 20 years. They separated at some point, but it was a peaceful, quiet separation. So the Internet wasn't all in their business. And then we didn't really hear from Miguel and then he popped up with a one year old. Did we hear anything from her? No, she hasn't said a peep. This is why people need to move. I follow her. She's a class. Do she have other kids? They both have been a class. Do they have any other children or anything? No. I say that because this is why people need to mind their business. How you know she can have kids is. And they divorced in 2022. They broke up in 21. They divorced in 2022. Oh. So what the hell? Some story. No, I'm with the Internet on this one, y'. All. We broke up in 20. 21. Nine months for a baby. Another year to have it. You know, you had that first little while out. Yeah. Another year to make sure this the. You would have a baby with that. Three years. We ain't so far away. N. He's getting over that heartbreak. That's one way to get. If I'm with somebody for 15, 20 years, don't turn around. And you can't have a baby within the next five years. Happens a lot. Yeah, a lot. Oh, look. Oh, shut your dumbass up. You crazy. Exactly. Out there giving that box away like UPS is wrong with you. I know that post breakup, they start letting their hair down. Yeah. That is when they go have a baby. What? No, they go. They cut their hair off. I'm talking about the other hair. You know, you with them 70s. Yeah. Got that little hairy. Yeah, yeah. Hairy. It's like that. The contrast of the white. He. The contrast the hair. How the hair bounce off the white. Stop playing with. Stop playing with my man. Oh, man. What else is going on? What else is going on? About the streamers. You want to talk about the streamers? Yeah. Yeah. I ain't want to say nothing. Roast your ass. You said it. I. I thought. I thought of a new ip. I thought of a new show concept that would be amazing. Low overhead because cameras are already running. And I think this shit is a smash still. I'll share it with you right here for free. I would like to see a show with the top 5 to 10 streamers where they are trying to get laid. Yo, I'm talking about they full bag of game is on full display, and they're not worried about chat, chat, chat, chat, chat. You got today fucked up. I want to see them try to get some pussy. And I had this thought because I was browsing and bumped into Ice Spice and Lotto at Castanet Crib. But the other footage, not when they was playing a song, when they was just sitting chilling, catching a little vibe. And them niggas was slapping the slap. The loud noise slappers on the ground. And they started looking at each other like, girl, why are we even here with these? Get us with a big stepper set. Yo, Ice Mice and Lotto look so disgusted at streamer behavior while baddies was around. Oh, I laugh for about 20 minutes now. That may be hate, but it's the truth. I'd like to see it. It's a great concept for a show. Yeah. Yeah. You can expand it, too, into podcasters and all of It. No, I was about to say I'd love to Flip. I think podcasts are better though. Nah, getting what I think it's maybe we are better a generous. I'm talking about generationally because some of our generation actually was outside and actually met people. I feel like the streamers are all kids that like never went outside. They never interacted with nobody except on DMs. What you mean by that? Flip wasn't married. I'm saying if you weren't married, I think that you. That would be a fire show for you. I would love to watch you do that. I agree. That's what I'm saying. Flip knows how to interact with people. Flip got Riz. You know what I mean? But Flip ain't really had conversations with women. But is it ladies? Rizzo. Riz. Yeah, he got Riz for like long he been married. Try to holl at women. So that's what I'm saying. You said what? I said you've been married so long that you might not know how to interact with today's world. Yeah, that's. You don't have current. No, you don't have current. Riz. I'm not trying to have current rs. I'm not trying R. Oh, so you and R is on the same page. No, no, no, no. Me and R, y' all not trying to have each other. Hey, let me tell you something cuz. That T mobile commercial ain't gonna work in 2025. Respect. Respect. Oh, it everybody ain't you everybody. And then I'm on the Joe Button podcast ain't gonna work in the second. I don't use that. Watch your mouth. Watch your mouth. And why it won't work. I don't how you catch it like. I'm only joking. Keep it going. Catch it. You've been. I promise you I'm joking. The tongue is extremely powerful. You've been alluding to a lot. You've been alluding the tongue. You've been alluded to a lot of this. Why these be trying to poach me, whatever that word is. Stop. Stop eluding the. Wait. Who trying to poach you? Doesn't matter. My loyalty is a one stop doing that. Who's trying to poach you? I'm not telling you. Cuz I told you last time. You expos. If you trying to poach Flip. Yeah, actually a segment is coming too. Cuz you ain't the only one that they trying to poach. There some going on. Don't worry. Don't worry about it. You keep Letting. They must smell blood in the water up here. Hey, these content creators. Yeah. Hey. I saw it. I saw it. I missed it. What happened? Did you zoom in? I thought it was the whole. No, Mark talked about it too. Me and Mark talked. I said all this. Look at Mark. Look at Mark. I thought it was the whole thing. I said, oh, n. We got action. I said, oh. Oh. So many dates went on. Yo, get in the bag. That was fire. Then I looked. I said, oh, okay. And now you had to compare the dates. One of. One of the dates on a Friday. One of the days on the work day. Yo, you look that up? Yeah, why not? Why not? Oh, who you asking this side? Are you asking this side of the room? It's different. Oh, okay. You like to. You take mind of your business to a whole another level, or you pretend to do it. There's no way just mind his business like that. You got to work dirty, man. You got. Who dirty mack. Oh, yo, who dirty macking you out your dirty Mac. Mind my business. No, that's. You. Wait, hold up. I'm sorry. That was fucking. To me. My. That don't concern me. Really? Yeah. My. I don't pay them. I see why he would do it. I. Yeah. I don't see why you would do it. Why not? I see why he would do it. Yeah. Okay, audience. We talking about some dates we seen floating around that was conflicting. No, thank God. Thank God. One of them was. It might be a knife. Like, yo, that's your man. It might be a nice fight. He's such a child. Hey, yeah. I go up there too. The difference is I go up there now and I turn up. I look you right your eyes, and I call you, yo. Hey, look where I'm at. What you gonna say? Nice hotel room. Yeah, look where I'm at. A little fancy. I just think I'm built different. I don't want to make it by myself because they don't like that. That's true. I'm just. Yeah. Body wise, but mentally too, Pac. That's true as well. That's true. Oh, there you have it. They only you, though, Joe. Oh, I'm not doing nothing. They only. I don't know. I'm home with my girl. I went back into some region for a while too now. Oh, she. She's back. Oh, let me feel your. Is she back? Yeah. Stop. I'm on with my baby. I don't want no smoke with nobody out there. I'm for peace. Y' all ain't gonna trick me. I Like to. I normally like to end years with peace and solutions. I don't like to start the new year with a bunch of bullshit just pending. You mean like calendar years or contract years? Calendar years. Okay. Just asking for clarity. Stop. Calendar year. Stop. Watch your fucking self. Yo. Conversation you. I hate y'. All. You know. Always man. And on top of that. That's why we need a board. Mark will follow right back up. That's my man. It's the only one with morals up here. It should freeze. Mark, open that calendar. Hit the zoom. The zoom on the. Anyway. Did you like Adam Silver calling the NBA fans pores. That was the first major issue I had. I've had with Adam Silver over that. He sounded nice. That was crazy. Sounded Absolutely. He said that. He said if you can't afford the streaming services. The great thing about the NBA it's the highlight league. He sounded so you just watch highlights. Just watch some highlights. Like if you can't say the word. He can't say the word pause. No he did. Not at all. It was just heavily implied. Got it. That goes back to what you said. Yeah. Everything is becoming a luxury item. No. All that shit going on. Yeah. But you don't tell your patron is saying it is nuts. You said the same. He sounds stupid. Do lower the ticket prices. Free throw. I'm just saying at the arena. All of it. It's all. It's all the streaming ticket is pretty affordable last time I checked. Maybe it's gone up. Let me see. It's not the NBA package. Yeah. Cuz the NFL I paid like 200. That like $200 NFL high as high as I think I paid 200 last year. Nothing at almost 500 game is affordable. Absolutely nothing at an NBA game is affordable. Except the highlights. Yeah. Go right out of Instagram. But you and you talking about the. You better not get hungry or thirsty. You talking about the guard. Yeah. NBA. NBA League Pass is 100. I'm not 109. If you're just doing apps and you get the three three devices 150. That's not crazy. The NFL like four 500. Is it? Yeah. Yes. And that's not including like if you want prime and all the other that should be streaming on. I hate that. Yeah. I think to what we were saying. I think the sale the cell of the warriors got them just thinking differently. Like so. Yes. The Garden prices. But the warriors or the Lakers. The warriors and the Celtics specifically. Well. Oh and the Lakers recently the Lakers are sold for 10 minutes and the Lakers a Partial. Yeah. But before that the Celtics that was nuts. And the warriors was nuts at the time. So if you seeing that type scale for your franchises year over year. Yeah. Then we done talking to the broker. But it got to come with success. So I think, I think every team can't do that. If you have. Well yeah if you have the success. Like, like Indiana right now. Oh, I'm sure they are Cleveland right now. Actually I've read something about Cleveland. What they would get if they went right now. Like so you talking about even smaller market teams. I just don't think he should have said that. He should not. I don't think he should have said that or you should have worded it way the full different. Yeah, but you, you gotta out of touch man. These like Cleveland. But that's what's happening in music. Yeah. Like what he's saying is not specific to sports entertainment. Like everybody is on the highlight moment. Microwave the reels. All that quick little clips. Yeah. Everybody's tick tocking. Yeah. The. The root of the game. And the snippets include clips and all that just give it to you. It's over. Pause. It's over. That's only us dinosaurs that. That care about the whole. These Knicks tickets. How much? What was the jump? I don't even got know the prices. What was the jump? Them was high before y' all was making a playoffs. And they higher. 6 is 2 and they higher now. Yeah, I believe it. The whole league. You doing season tickets again. Yeah, I've had. I've never given them up. I'm going to sell most of them just because I can't get to the games right. But they. I don't even, I don't even know what they were. Last year we were paying almost. We paying like 200. So the Knicks gotta be. That's the funny part. The Knicks gotta be twice that three times. And anybody selling them I'm sure is in the block. They're killing them. Yeah, they're killing them. Yeah. In New York, yes. In Philly. No. In New York. For me like I can, I can get face. For me I just. I can get face value for them now. And if it's a big game, Lakers, those games I be wanting to go to though. You know what I mean? And playoffs, you can make a lot. The problem with the playoffs is every NBA team doubles every round. So. So you. If you're paying 5,000 a game, first rounds, the next round you're paying 10. NBA Finals, you paying almost 20,000 a game. When I Worked not per pair. Yeah. When I went to the Celtics. Shit, not last year when they was in the championship. That ticket was $6,500. Geez. That shit was $6,500. They basically priced. We wasn't in the front like that shit was. It was a good seat, but it wasn't down there. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna watch on TV personally. Yeah. I pull that headset out. Them tickets cost so much. I, I. He asked me if I wanted to go to preseason game. I said, yeah, send me everything, Everything. I'm going. Media day, all that. I want every T shirt y' all got. For real. I felt like a loser too, but. Nah, you didn't. Nah. Now I'm getting my money's worth. That's what you're talking about. You, you feel like you made it. That's a good purchase. Yeah. I didn't look at a preseason in the game like that at all. Oh, no, no, no, no. The fact that you're talking about buying a season ticket. I can afford these season tickets. Cool. I'm. But now you laughing at the preseason. I'm using it. Nah. Do you give your seats away? Do you sell them? No, I give them away. Yeah. Yeah. But I give them away to family. Family friend. Yeah, I used to do that. I stopped like, yo, Charlie. The price went up too. I'm not being funny. Price went up because the Sixers tickets used to be a good rate. And then every year they just kept doubling. Today they say, we want to match Brooklyn and New York. I'm gonna stop doing it too. Every game I send my dad to is a historic once in a generation game. Triple overtime, 17 buzzer beaters, dog. Every time. He went to the lone Yankee win at World Series and Jackie turned the whole section up and they was lit over there drunk in the Bronx at night time. That look like the best time. He won't have another night like that in his life. In his whole life. But that's why you work hard. The G, the Garden behind bad bunny Knicks playoff win cat 50 points. Whatever the was going on, every time I say, you know what, man, just go ahead. Yeah, it be rocking. You coming in with that mood music energy. These get lose by 90. Lose by 90. Yo, you see Ben Simmons, they said that he turned down the one contract he was offer was the New York Knicks. And he turned it down. How it make you feel? Well, I was grateful cuz I don't want Ben Simmons on my team. But I knew that the Knicks had it out for they wanted Him. Do. Do you know how much they offer? I believe the report minimum. The vet men. What is the veterans minimum now? 4 million, 5 or 6 million. I forget. It's in the 4 to 5 million. It was a lot. That was why the agent. The agent was like, I'm done. All right, dog, I got you some work out here. And you. You not even entertaining. The Ben Simmons fall off needs to be examined. Yo, when I'm home, I think about certain fall offs and how to just avoid it. That Ben Simmons fall off is high on the list. Who would you say was the highest fall off that came in as a main prospect? And just. Oh, I see. I don't just mean in sports. I just mean general fall offs. So just give me. I think that was all. And I. I think a lot of that. Public. Public. Simpson, I think. Yeah. After the trial, your public perception did it. Yeah. He can't take it. Anybody can't take that. And he let that get in his head and it was over. And we. And we. And we as a society just think that you. You. It come with the territory or shut up, grin and bear it. Shut up and dribble. And that's not necessarily. You talking about Ben still. Yeah, Yeah. I agree with you. I think everybody's not built for a big city. I don't think everybody not built for public. See what everybody thinks about. Yes. But in a big city, you get like, if you're in New York, Philly, Boston. There's certain cities where the screen expectations come with it. Exactly. Pat Bev was saying this other day, he was like, if Ben had been in Indiana, he may have developed differently. Cleveland, Cleveland, Minnesota or something. He might not have. I saw my guy friend of the show or a friend of mine, Cuffs, the legend tweet out a few weeks ago. Yeah, we love you, Cuffs. Cuffs said a few weeks ago that he just received a text from somebody that said, retirement. Cuffs is only best besties with LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, but he. I could make. I could. Cuffs wouldn't do that. I could see that happening this season. You mean like at the end of this season? No, I could see him announcing. Him announcing this is my last hurrah and going on the tour and. And getting out of there. I think we would do that before I could see it. Yeah, I think you would do it. But we like a couple weeks from pre. From preseason games. I think he would have done it like in. Nah. You think he does it right before the season starts. Whenever he does it. A thousand percent. Okay. That'd be interesting. I want the whole. Bro, you talking about LeBron James, who's since 17 years old, every single major announcement has had the cameras and the media and the this into that. He not gonna just be like, yeah, y'. All. No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying we're gonna make this a show. That's my point. I don't think he would do it like in September. I think he would do it in like, July, August. I think the league would want to make a whole campaign and a whole thing that's hard to do in a week. And I. LeBron now, with everything he knows about his brand, I'm controlling that. I'm not letting the league do that. Right. I might not be besties with the league right now. Now, you know what I'm saying? And I'm not doing it. I smoke with them. I got all kind of going. I got. I'm filming all of this. But he still wants to buy a team and all those other things. Yeah, y', all. I hope. I hope whenever he does do it, he does give enough of a rollout or lead up time that people can give him the love he deserves. I don't see him doing it before Bryce gets a shot at the NBA, though. Is. Is that not an issue to some people? I could see that happening before Bryce. You could? Okay, 100%. Depends. I saw one son's making. I ain't trying to stick around for the around and especially own the team that Bryce get drafted to. And this is the first time that, you know, there's the Luca effect happening on the. On the Lakers. Like, I might not be trying to stick around for two and three years of this. They saying that Dallas is trying to poach them. Allegedly. I can see it. That'll make this year lit, yo. Every time the new year's about to come, like the current year start wiling, and it make me say, yo, 2026 pigs is about to turn up on us. I mean, I don't think that 2025 is done either. The hell no. Hell no. By the way, way too much time left in 2025. It's just the fourth quarter. Yeah, word. About to now it's about to ship. They've been coasting. It's go time. I had to turn the news up this morning. The rest of some burnt. Some elderly people on fire, burnt the house up. And they caught him coming out. They caught him, the cameras probably coming out the house. No, no, no. He did the perp walk. He got Cameras around, and he was screaming, hey, they were sexual predators. They were molesting kids in that house. And I fixed it. The two old white people in the Long Island. Charge his phone. He was going to different houses, asking him to charge his phone. They let him in. I didn't hear. To charge your phone for it. I just heard about that heinous crime. Right. And what he said on his perp walk. Oh. But anyway, I just sat up in bed and. Hey, what the. This. The news will make you turn. What? Turn some. I don't see how you watch that. Oh, speaking. And. And Parks, when I went to go watch Task, you said it was four episodes out. I didn't say that. No, he. That was something else that he was talking about. God, my brain is scrambled in. So I didn't watch it because it was only. What episode? I'm. I'm gonna wait. Oh, okay. I'm gonna wait. That looks great. Let that thing build up. Yeah, that looks great. Pause. Yeah, that's how the hbo. Check it out. See what it's about. Forgive me if y' all talked about this, because I don't watch a lot of shows, so I may have, like, zoned out. Y' all watched forever. No. What's forever? Okay, good. Y' all should watch forever. It's actually a really. It's on. It's on Netflix. It's the. The. I kill Mar. Brock. I kill. Uh, Is the EP of it. Wood Harris is. Is. Is one of the leads in it, along with. Oh, I might have watched this. This is about the. He's Wood Harris. Like a chef or something like that. It's good. It's really. It was good. Y' all want some? A good. Reunited as teens, two childhood friends fall deeply in love. Experiencing the joy and heartache of a first romance. Never. I promise you that. The boy. The boy. I'm telling you, it's good. The boy. They live on separate parts of town, right? Yes. It's more to the story. It's not a teenage love story. It sounds like that, and that's part of the story, but it's more interesting than that. It's a. It's a social. It's a social watch. The first episode. Social economic story. Really. It's good. I know you probably wouldn't w. Harrison, I'm about to say also, y' all could just be a lot softer than me. And y' all are into the forever. Y' all into forever. Pardon me. It was no killings. It's fine. Yeah. Nobody. Ain't nobody bodies in the freezer. Speaking of movies, nobody died. I did go see the Conjuring. How was it? I enjoyed the out of it. They closed this perfectly. Okay. You can tell this is it for Elizabeth and Dude. Okay. They. They ended it. I'm not gonna spoil anything else, but thank you. Yeah. And enjoyed the out of it. I like all of the Conjuring. Yeah, me too. And Annabelle's and all of that, so. Me too. This. This was a great booking for that. For that series. I went to see the Long Walk. A long Walk. How was it? It was cool. It was cool. My girl loved it. Oh, really? She loved it. Squid Gameish. Squid Gameish? No, Stephen King is a little darker than that. Right. So I would. I would imagine it was Squid Games is pretty dark. This was more like Surviving the Game to me. Ice T. Oh, we really old. But damn, there's. And there's like two other movies that are like Surviving the Game where they put you in the woods and the white people are watching and. Yeah. Hunting housewives. And Hunting Housewives. And there's another one that's like with a hedge funding. But. But yeah, A Long Walk wasn't bad. It got to be the cheapest movie ever filmed since there was just a bunch of unknown kids walking. So it wasn't. But it was compelling, scary. Because if you saying it was more along. Surviving the Game. I'll go check it out. It wasn't scary. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It ain't gonna scare you. We going today, gang. Be brave. That's gator. Be brave. Let's just go together, bro. Yeah. No, it wasn't. To the movies. Sit next to each other too. Yo. The movies is still a good day and time. Absolutely. Every time. Absolutely. I know that metrics are suggesting otherwise. The movies is still a good date. And time. Time that should be packed. Usually. Yeah. They ain't got that many showings. But it ain't cheap, though. Idea. That's just. It ain't cheap though. I spent about 100 and something every time I go. That's just the regular. And tickets is cheap. It's just all other ain't cheap. 15 hours. 2 hours in the movies. A lot cheaper than 2 hours in the strip club. That's well, well. And I brought my water bottle in there. My ola. Yo, you said no. Them movies. Tickets, $50. 19 a ticket, bro. 140. I can show you. I just went, yeah, they usually be like 20 something. You must be adding your food and all that. As I said, the other is expensive. Once you Add all of that. Your drinks. Some in a barber shop. I used to go to some speaking easy somewhere think I go I'm say it up here. Y' all ever been to I got. Y' all ever been to the the old school driving. Yes. Outdoor movie theater. Not in Jersey. I've been to. I've been to one. Think I wanted no. Think I wanted Amar. We went. The what? The night before my wedding. We went. I'm old man. Yeah, keep going. Yo, bro. You Charlie. You all bro. Mark, what happened just now? My hamstring. Yeah, y' all was massaging is hamstring. Y' all should have checked his hamstring, bro. What was happening? What is y'. All. I gave ish massage. I'm St. Jo gave him a little massage. That's exactly what I did. I did. I missed it. My move. Can he play no more. Stop doing that, man. With a little Chris. No. That's my bad. Mark. It's a man with a wife. Yo, I a stay you right but I this. I'm scared. That hurt like a. You know, old man. Hey yo a you and like 18 different martial arts. You just going to yell out at the pain like that? I wasn't expecting it. K. What's wrong with. Wrong with you? You scared me, dude. Scared me. I thought it was awesome. I heard something pop. That's why it's got to be how Phil Jack Jackson felt when Kobe went down. Oh, man. My star player didn't do one action movement. Sitting still. Yell out. Pulled your hamstring. All right, now you can't talk about the ish finger roll no more. That's fine. You can't talk about the ish finger roll. You're done pulling a heavy podcasting is crazy. I think this is a bad cramp. I stayed out too late last night. Are you canceling some of your public campus appearances like Ben Shapiro did? No, no, I can't afford to do that. Oh, Ben canceled. We up. Hello. We up. Add 10 today, right? Wow. Ben ain't coming. Add 10. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not canceling anything. I got a few events coming up. You know on the website. I think one is two weeks from now. Marg is too brave for my liking to. I learned that you brave? I mean, you know. You know, I'm going try. I'm going get start getting security though. You going start. See foi cuz every 17 year old girl shouldn't be able to get that close to you. You pick and choose when you Muslim. Oh, yo, yo, yo. Why? I'm kidding. I had a good comeback, but I. Well, what might that have been? You should trust it if I'm not going to say it. Thank God. Got to write about. You can tell me all the time. Oh, my Lord. Might gotta put my life out. But. But yeah, I'm start getting FYI. They got great security and you know, I don't want a lot of guns around. Don't let them. Let them. The little. Them little Mace girls in again. Them little pepper spray girls. Oh, shit. I told you somebody gotta protect Miz. That's true. Yeah. They hit me up right after that. Like you need. You need to start having security. Pretty. Yeah, I'm on it. The hell is wrong with this guy right now? You got to know what today is. It's our anniversary. Hello. Hello. That's a but. All right. Yeah, you got to know what today is. All right. What else needs our attention? What is important, unimportant? Nothing else in music. Nothing else in. Streamers. Trying to get land. Nothing else in. They put out the Drake record. Oh, I don't care about it. Y' all can take it away. The whole thing. It's the same record that we played on from the stream. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. I'm looking at you. That's exciting for someone. Someone. Somewhere. Yeah. Just. It's not. Not me. So. I mean, I ain't trying to on it. But anyway, one day. Because I'm looking. I was looking at the date. We are one week away from the Cardi album. Cardi B. Yeah. It crept up quick. It did. I thought we'd get another record by now. I thought we would too, but. Yeah. Although there would still be time if they did a week of. Here's the album. Not the same as a full. Yeah, it's normal for people to drop albums and then drop singles like not. Or drop a single that night. Yeah, maybe that. Maybe that's there. Cuz I was sitting there looking. I'm just like. It's. It's still quiet. I would have to imagine they make some type of noise in this last. Last week. Fashion Week. Is it Fashion Week? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There you go. That's why you was out last night. You was walking the Runway, being fashionable again. You was out looking good. You, Antoine, you. What's. What's up up. I heard you. I didn't have to reply. That's true. That's be. That's that mean. You know that mean. Hey, hey. Don't ask. You already know. Hey. Come on, you got to ask me nothing. Freeze. Come on. You got ask me nothing. We know. My man, when he got his mustache shaped up, this a shock. When your mustache is ready to go, he's ready to go. I know. I know. Cardi is like. There's rumors of her being mad at me, so I want to be careful of my commentary, but the gig is a gig. What is that? Yeah, I mean, it was scary when imaginary players came out, because if you were sitting on an album full of heat, then imaginary players don't come out or it don't come out. How it came out, it came. It comes out as a freestyle for that record to come out, and certain publications try to handle it like it was an actual release. That. That spelled something. It did. It spelled something. I ain't gonna say no more because I want to wait till the music comes out, because I'm hoping that she went and got with the right people and there's something on there. The label don't think it's heat or she don't think it's heat. Listen, my commentary be getting her mad. So what. What I'm saying is, let me take it off her. Let's take the sports. If. If the old quarterback is there and we get a new head coach and a new gm, the chances are those people want to go get their people. They not just going to work with what's there. I don't think that's just a Cardi. I think a lot of people are in that position right now. Yeah. Where new people are in the building. We trying to establish who's worth what. Who are we gonna continue with? What new acts are we signing? Oh, you spent this much over here. Oh, you've been spending this much in the last. We looking at the books. We trying to shed overhead. I don't think it's just a cardi conversation. So I can see how when I. When it's attached to her, it comes off away. I think that's a today artist conversation in that building, and I've been there in any building. If the new people come when. When the niggas sign in that building. Yeah. Well, that's not the only building going through it, but. But that was the hottest conversation we was talking about. Oh, and it's the Hot 97 conversation. It's not just the music. It's anywhere. Cardi talk. It's anywhere, bro. It's corporate. We know that it's corporate. New owner or y' all merge or something. Next thing you know, they start looking at where can we cut money? All right, you've been here. I think it says something that the Cardi rollout is looking like it's looking. And some people could feel like it's fly with standing in the street and selling your shit on the sidewalk. I mean, I was dope. Dope. That was. That was very dope. That was very dope. All of that could be cool. It don't speak to what they're doing. What it shows what that shows me. And I don't want no smoke. They is in the label. Go ahead. Yes. It shows me that the label isn't treating her like Premier primary A1 we put in the building behind you. Yeah. It looked to me like. That's what it looked like. It looked like she had to go do that on her own. Go do that. Yeah. It. And somebody for her label might have told her to do that. But still, how it looks. It looks like they about to rely on bundles. Because every other day I see a new album cover or a new T shirt or a new vinyl or I see the. I went on the Cardi B website to give it a scroll. There's things there that a fan of Cardi B would enjoy, but they're all bundle packages. So between that and between Apple and between her core audience of being who she is, you hope to get people out or not out to the stores or pull a phone out and make a purchase or stream. We'll see. And it will definitely get streamed. So. But it is quieter than it should be. Yes. Super. And I'm certain that we're not the only people to notice that. Yeah, it's too quiet for even coming off a court case. Well, that may or may not have been. Yeah, but I mean, that was just two weeks ago. Yeah. You supposed to come out of that blazing glory. That's what that. And you won. And you won. You should be coming out of that. It should have been a posse cut. There should have been something. Something with a feature. Get back with one of these. These rapping chicks. Anything, anything, anything. But we shall see we shall see we shall see See. I hope the album is good. That's all. I. I really only hope the album is good. Long as the album is. Whether it's sell, don't sell. Brand. Not Brand. If the music is good, it'll quiet the naysayers. Even though she thinks that's me, the naysay. I don't make a penny off the album. So I don't care what it sell. I said about all of these albums. I Don't make no money. Whether you sell one or a million copies. Want some vibes. I want something that I could put in the headphones and like, this is my. And this is fire. Did you see the tweet running around? Who was it? K Flock or one of them was like, we having this conversation. If Pusha T is better than Jeezy. Have you seen it? It was. It was 42 dog. 42 dog. I'm sorry, but sorry. A little bit of dog like me. Jeezy's his favorite rapper. Doug's from Detroit. Jeezy has ties to Detroit. So he holds Jeezy in a much higher place. Anyway, Jeezy, not to interrupt. I saw that and I said lake, shout out to you brothers. They invited me to his last show in Detroit tonight. But it's tonight. Yeah. Any other night, I'm going out there to see that and put the suits on with the Detroit. And you know Detroit. You know, Detroit going to show. They're gonna show all the win. That's like a second kind of home. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So that's why I understand Doug even saying that. I didn't even take no. Him saying it. Okay, I get it. Like you're not even gonna. It's not even a conversation to him. So I understood it. And a lot of people upset over it. But it's like, dog, you have to also know who's saying this and why they saying it. Well, I'm asking about what you say. Well, who's a better rapper? I'm documenting and saying Jeezy can't rap. I've been my. I always say my favorite rapper is not the most lyrical. He can't rap like that to the people that can really put the pen to paper. Now when he getting. He can make songs that. That hit you. Makes bangers. Yeah. Yes. And put you in that moment. Like I. I feel his music, but in terms of being a rapper rapper, he ain't on my top nothing list in that he's not like a wordsmith or none of that type of. So, yeah, if you're asking me who's the better rapper, it's Pusha T with. With. Without what? It's not close. But you're taking GZ is my all time favorite rapper over everybody. I get that take. I wish I would take Pusha over Jeezy, but. But I agree with everything you just said. Otherwise, like, your favorite rapper ain't necessarily the most skilled one. But when it comes to bars, I mean, I Don't even think it's close between Pusha and Jeezy. But Jeezy does the thing that Pusha doesn't do for me, and that is. And it's the topic. It's the music. It's also his voice. Yeah, it's everything. Everything, bro. And Jeezy tell you I ain't no rapper. Yeah. I ain't no rapper. I've said this before on here. I just think that Jeezy wins the. The Timeless Music Award. To me, like, his music is. Is. Is the Wine. That first album. Come on. Right now, this will start going crazy, bro. I've been in spots where they'll do a Jeezy set. Yes. And a spot. And I mean a set. They. I don't mean two, three records. Suburbs. No, no. In the middle of the ghetto. You can joke in the middle of the middle. Can we say stop calling y' all the new accounts? The funny is we be in the trenches in north where that happens. Like. I understand. I understand that. Can we start calling y'? All? Can we stop saying you come Jersey City? Yeah. What would you like to say? I don't know. Look, look. That is where your little joke go wrong. What would you like to say? I. I don't want to just divulge where you live. Oh, please. Nobody would believe I'm from there. Stop it. Can we call y'? All? I'm in Newark every day. The suburb, county. I'm in Newark every day. Every day. But can we call y'? All? And I'm not from Newark. I'm from East Orange. So to be clear. But I'm in Newark every day. No. So I can't call y' all daily number blocks. Just answer my question. You ain't been to that Dairy Queen. You ain't been at Dairy Queen in decades. I'm fascinated by this. So I know why you're in the. In the hood. Ish. You pick up workers and stuff there. What. What do you. My workers don't live in face killer. Mr. East. What do you. What. What do you do there? Why you in the hood every day, cuz? Y' all bragging about that? I be. I'm not bragging. I just. That's why you there. Why you be there? Why are you there? I handle. You have no business there? Family that live in the hood that I visit my every day. I really was asking. Yes, I do. You got a lot of going on Family. Me? Yo, he can't be a ref a cosign for you when I'm Talking to you. I don't care. Somebody don't do that with each other. I don't give a. Because you lying and we tell. Have you been in Jersey City in the last go to the five years outside of Casa? It's another legitimate question. No, I'm not letting them escape. It's your alternative questions. I. I told you, I'm. I'm in. You visit family. My barber shop is in the hood. I don't think I workers in. I drive through to check on. I don't pick friends. Old friends. No, you don't. No, you don't. What? No, you don't. What's this question? I'm answering honestly, though. Stop lying. Honestly. You answering. Yeah. You are not even answering. You. No, they're not. And it's because of these doofy. That's why I'mma do the Joe button Doc. I'm going do the doc. So who you going to pay to go to the hood and film all that footage, though? Three weeks, weeks ago, I was in Sal's. Right? In Sal's. Okay. My man Sal. Big hug. You know what time it is? Before it was a barbershop, that's where we was going. Working at the Wiz when we was stealing shit and leaving it there. Mixtape days when nobody even had a mixtape in Jersey City. I just stopped by there. Oh, my God. So happy to see. So happy. What? Three weeks ago, Joe. Three weeks ago, I answer the questions, and then I start yours on vacay. Three weeks, weeks ago. You want me to call s. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yes. See? Be careful when you ask them questions. Going to say, yeah, do it. Why? I could call Sal. Call him, though. You asked us did we want you to call. You going to call your family. No, we talking to you. You can't chant and. And bucking them. Can't be in every scene you talking about. Can't be in every city. Yo, I'm about to call you right quick. Just go along with what I say, all right? Just. Yes, you'll still get. Keep getting. You ain't been on mlk. You ain't been on Ocean. No, it keep coming. It keep coming. Since you went to Turks on Patreon. I'm. Of course I go to no hood in Jersey City. Please. Yo, unlike y', all, I go anywhere I want. You just don't want to go to the hood. That happens to include the hood sometimes. Times. Where don't I. Where don't I go? No, no, no, no. Don't let him escape. Where don't I Go. Hold on, hold on. You said unlike y'. All. Unlike y' all where? Don't I go mad. Please. By myself. I'm always. I don't need Corey. I go by myself. I hate talking Jury out by myself. To take that Swiss. Ain't got to take that. Your ass up crazy. You could keep your little sterling silver Casio. The you talking about, but when you ride through these hoods every two or three weeks. No, I park up. Can you be solo? I park up. I'm everywhere. But when you park up, you park up the hill. What you drive? What you drive? What you drive? No, you park up in the. Since you. Since you parked, that mean you drove. So what did. What you drive? No, my driver parks up talking to. My driver parks up talking to. Don't get out and stare nowhere. It's not like everybody up here is lying. I don't believe none of y'. All. You know. You know better. I did. I told you. You be at Home Depot. I don't. Home Depot ain't in north fam. My barber shop. Oh, yeah, there is one. I don't be going through that. What do you be doing in Newark to see him in New. I'm in there twice a week. What you say? What you be doing in Newark to see him in Newark saying, yo, you know, is my wife. He could get a pass. Yeah, you've been there. You've seen. I was with you in Newark. I don't. I forgot. But yeah, in college and you missed it earlier. But he still. He's still. You know what I mean? He's got the. Still got the pamphlets in the trunk. Yeah, he got to get out. Got to get busy out there. We used to be in Jersey City, New York, that you. Those the strongholds. We need a new pyramid on Broad Street. You know what I'm saying? Yo, this guy put a pyramid in Lincoln park, man. This don't go back to no Jersey. The worst part about being in the cult, man, was when I got the tattoo and they all thought I went too far. Wait, that was the worst part? Yeah. Where the tattoo at? Let me see. It's the crown, but it's like. Let me see. They actually. The kids was cool. So the kids remember the worst parts was cool. I sold my incense. I never got up. I used to feel. Except that one time with Dude, I came about five incense short, and my man was sleep. They went too far. So you going to get his ass whooped anyway. He was like 50 short. You get your ass whooped if you Short. Oh, yeah. They used to fuck us up. Well, that's right. They used to. Yeah, it was just like. Nope. Yeah, it was no different. It was either him get up or both of us get up. So it don't make no sense in both of us. I didn't see the logic of both of us getting up. Tell you what, jumps. See? See that mentality? Either we go to jail or. Or he go to jail. I don't see the sense of both of us going, that's that rat. But that's you, rat. I ain't right. We caught. I'm not doing the crime. We're not talking about me, all right? Talking about the. Here you. You got it. That was short and played his man. That's supposed to be a brother, too. Yeah, after that, that's when we started selling bootleg. Did you ever sell bootleg on the street? What? Huh? I don't know. What kind of hustles y' all had? That's actually a good question. What kind? No, it's not. What kind of hustles did you have? I mean, that ain't hit all the time and still had to go, hey, Cory. Hey, Corey. I mean, that ain't hit all the time. Oh, packed him a little heavy. See, why you ask him this? You know this. Say, you ever saw anything bootlegging and he got his tachini on now. Come on, he in his moment. No, no, we good, bro. It ain't that. He in his mom. No hustles for you other than drugs in the community? Oh, I sell houses, Mark. But back in the day, I know you had some. Some hustlers. No, I never sold nothing on street. I stole clothes before. I had all the hustles. I had check scams I had. I mean, it ain't all just on the street. Yeah, I tell my friends that you're not a nerd. Oh. I mean, I. I'm a nerd, but I just had hustles. I did. We did different. How about you, Ice? Yes. No. Nothing you want to share with this? Absolutely not. I sold music. If you needed Windows 2021. Yo, what you doing? Oh, you had. You had to. You had to. That. If you needed some mortgage software, the. The USB free. You know what I'm saying? If you need. If you needed Adobe 97, it was a place that you could get it. You know what I mean? I'm just saying somebody had it. Somebody had it. You knew. What is it about that? Y' all still speak like y', all, like, are active criminals. Nah, it's just, I don't. I don't like. Y' all sound like there's a fear, a healthy fear that they could come snatch y' all at any moment contingent on what y' all share. Why do you keep groups tripping people? Because I'm listening to y'. All. He said that? I didn't say. I didn't say that. Anything like that. You do talk like you talk like that. Like I'm scared that somebody gonna come pick me up. Like you. Like you still outside and I don't talk like that. He said I talk like somebody's coming to pick you up. Like you scared. Like they come talk like. No, no, like. Like you still, like, in the game. Exactly. Like, you know, I tell you later, I can't tell you something. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. What are you talking. Cause it's some that the world don't supposed to know. Unlike y' all coe that want to share. You want throw shots at me. What you talking about? Niggas to be told to 8 million viewers. Shots at your man, CEO. I don't like. Don't say CEO around me. Oh, say that when I'm not here. Like you won't throw shots at your man. Throw anything at you. You're my brother. That's cool. Park, you have any to you, Mark? I don't want talk about. To get his time out. Go ahead. Yeah. Mad hustles. What kind of. I. I try magic, especially in the music game. When I was young, I was. Was like doing menial labor. Okay. And when I was like, in high school and college, I was maybe distributing some herbal essences to the. That was my guess. Presumptuous. Oh, you work for Mary Kay the Shampoo? Yeah. Avon Lady Garnier. Yeah. And then music hustles galore. The music business is all hustles. Yes, it is. And you flip crazy. Just typical street. I had a nice music hustle going at one. Like what? Just typical street, man. Just trying to be outside. Yeah, it must be whack to just like be a law abiding citizen. No, I mean, even if you were successful or not, we. It's amazing. Look, look, look, look. Look at your man. Look at your man again. Yeah, that's why even if you outside. Listen n. We ain't even passing that message off. No, it's not. That was distributing it and it was. That was the other that was using it. The runner or the run? I wasn't either. You know what I'm saying? You talking about my History of addiction. Yeah, I was trying. I was trying to make fun of. Yeah. You talking about my history. Oh, wow. He said, you a customer. You can't say that about me, yo. I cannot. But you making fun of my. That's funny, sir. That's wild. You think that's funny? No, it's wild. Listen, I'm gonna keep it real. I sold drugs for about six months. My mother came looking for me and embarrassed me in the street, you know what I'm saying? And tried to be at 193 in Linden. I never forget it. Two or three in the morning. And she did that. And it's like, I don't want to do that. And then the niggas that you look up to, they're not gonna stand there and watch you disrespect your mom. You gotta go, right? You're not gonna talk to your mom like that. You're not gonna tell her to go. We're not with for that. So that's all it took for me. She drove something, boy. Three, Two in the morning. Twice. And I same thing when I joined the Crips. Let me tell you something. Wait, wait. She jumped you out the game? No, she jumped out the game. No, they jumped him out the game. He had to move to Queen. No, I did not. My mother came down there, man. Came to Brooklyn and saw me outside with them. You know, I was doing that shit. I'm like, listen, I'm cool. The day that my mama. Not the day, but any day where my mama decided to hop in her car and make her way down to them basketball courts across the street from Subaru on Commuter Point, you know, that's where we at. We on the car. That's why you can't. Who ish. You can't say that to me. Yes. You can't say that to me. You my man, so I'm gonna kiki with you. But when Mama Faye came down there to them basketball courts, it was whooping time, boy. If she had and all. Your whole crew is there, the gang is there, is there, Everybody. Basketball court. Summertime. I'm talking 96, 97, 98. When she came there, oh, my God. I met my brother was down there. That used to activate parents. You couldn't with me. I run away. My mom knew I was with the action. My brother, he thought he was older. Came down there and smack the dog out of him. I said, mama, Mama ain't playing. You said the passenger seat. There's nothing you can do. Flip is right. That's your Mom. Everybody watching. Your mom smacked the out of you in front of everybody in the basket. You got to eat that, what you do. And you left to get in the car. Now we got to find another one. Yo, Sub. Yo, Sub. Nothing you can do about it. You can't do. I sold everything candy in the second grade. We did. We sold watermelon in South Carolina. Worked at the pig pen. I stole laptops and TVs and everything out of the Wiz. Oh, yeah, Wiz. Yeah. Nobody beats the Wiz. Shook em down. I beat em. I used to. That was sneakers. Use the plug. I used to work at Herman Sporting Goods. I to. Used to steal the sneakers out there. I ain't heard that name in. Yeah, they didn't have no tracking system, so. Well, we would come in, people come in, try on the sneakers, and just wear them out. And I'll put the empty box back up on the back in the warehouse. And then we'd break me. They'd break me down later, like when I got back around the way. Oh, there's a lot of trust involved in that. Well, till some old heads burnt me after, like, getting burnt. Wait a minute. So you gonna let me leave and then pay you later? Yeah, I got burnt on these huarachis. Like, three pairs of huarachis. I was like, they basically out of here, young boy. And I was like, all right, yeah, what can you do? I said to take the L, and I stopped doing it. And then I got fired. Yeah, I know I've asked y' all this before, but the fight is tonight. Yes, I'm still going, but, yeah, I watch. As you said to watch about. I can see why you think Canelo. Canelo just. Canelo. Just Canelo sound tough. He does. He does. He checked the out of Max Kelly Kellerman. You saw it. Max Kellerman was up there. I guess the people responsible for bringing this fight to Netflix are Dana White from the ufc, one of the big dogs from wwe. So Max Kellerman is up there. What's his name? It's the TKOR company. TKO Company. Well, so Max Kellerman is up there trying to, you know, shout these people out and big them up. And he says, yeah, one of the people responsible for making this thing bigger than boxing. We got Dana White. Yeah. Canelo was like, yo, don't say that again while I'm up here. Boxing is big and cool. What you talking about? Don't say that again while I'm up here. And Bud was like, yeah, I feel him. Hey, yo, you know what? I saw Canelo just talked like a nigga that knocked niggas out. He just talked like that. You ever meet a nigga that just talk like he gotta be able to knock you out? No, but then when you seen him knock niggas out out, like, oh, he really can knock out. Did you watch when you saw Jacob the Jeweler there selling him to watch and you saw the episode? No, I watched the last episode the other day at the barber shop. Jacob the Jeweler Price needs watching his half a million. One was 900,000, other one was a million a bunch. Yeah, he ain't the same Jacob. Yeah, he ain't that. That was over there. Why you not not? That was over there. Yeah, he different. Why he not? You talking about in a good way or a bad way way? No, in a good way. Oh, okay. He stepped it up. His clientele stepped up. Probably the materials he used. Diamonds is in Monaco, bro. Like, yeah, like you not. It's different. But I watched the last episode. Canelo don't look like Rich Canelo. You look hungry again. Yeah, he looked dusty. Not clothing wise. Because he was up there with some fly on. Yeah, he was up there with some fly on. He just looked like, yo, I think this might be my legacy for fight. So I'm gonna take this serious because they don't mention me with the Floyds. They don't mention me with the other that laid it down. And Canelo has a really, really. To be honest, his career is flawless outside of the Floyd shit. You know what I mean? Outside of a couple little questionable shits, he is one of them. And I don't think he get the recognition that he deserves. I think he looking at this Bud fight like this, this right. He's gonna do it. Because I could sell off into the sunset. Said Rich and I beat Bud and my name is cemented now, cuz he don't have that win for him. I called my mom up, said I need a big pot of collard greens. Not on turkey wings. Yeah, turkey wings. You doing a fight party called my girl up. Oh, you girl your ass up here. Turkey wings. Turkey wings and rice Texino lamb salad. No, no, no. My girl turkey wings kind of good. They're kind of good. My mom's like, you want me to make turkey wings? Oh, oh, you shut it down. Yeah, yeah. No, this is different styles. Yeah, I know. It's up now. Yo, certain conversations you can't have with your mom. No, you cannot. You cannot, Right? Should have said it. Yeah, she asked, but it sounds weird that I'm asking for collard greens and not turkey wings. She said, I got some seasoned up already. I was like, oh, my baby. She like, oh, yeah, you got to go squash it. Get her to make collard wings, too. Got to go squash it for me, Ma, I love you, but I'm saying the collard greens going to be hitting. You already know what time it is. I know what time it is already, so we know. Yeah, it's happening. That's what I'm most excited about. We might pull up. Yeah. Your mother be bribing you? Is this your career? My mother bribes anybody in front of her. She tried to trade me hoodies for food. Yo, I got. I got you. My mom is crazy. Yo, bossy too. Yo, I need two hoodies for me. I need a hoodie for my trainer. I'm like, yo, dog, you know these hoodies is bucking. You know what I mean? Like, yo. And she say it matter of factly too. Like, but yes, boss. Did you give it the hoodies? Yeah, I did. All right. That's all that matters. We don't play when come to miss. We do our pop out show in. In the city. We ain't done a show in a while, but when we do our pop out in the city. You want to sell your merch for and keep 100%. I get a little bit. I don't want to sell. No, can't get nothing. Can I get a little bit? I don't want to sell merch. Why? But can I get a little bit? I don't want to sell merch. Can you sell merch and I get a little bit? Oh, you know, depends on what? A little bit. Let's talk. You need to sell merch, though. I'm open to the conversation. You just get some. There was a. There's a negotiating day, you know. You want to say he got some hoodies in the trunk right now. Ready? I don't. Ready to go. I don't. I just seen him in front of Jack's Lobster and Shrimp down the street. That's why you be ignored. That's what it is. Oh, man. Being new selling hoodies, you got to have some stain the stuff. You got the bull. You got the Mexican dude in there. If we do a pop up show, Mark, can I get some of the bean pie and incense and can he lay some pamphlets out? No, the books. Can he lay some pamphlets out? The books? That's gonna be the move. That's how you gonna get. I'm on to you now. I see what you Want too. Yeah, yeah. Eight books. Ever since he first told us, I was like, oh, you using this for a long time. Playing a long game. Long game. Gonna be out there recruiting. Yo, whatever it take, man. Think about that. The merch. Opportunity. Opportunities we can have because we all sell and got when we do the Pop out show. Yeah, I'm gonna sell some hoodies. You gotta think about that. Books. You got eight books. I don't like selling my books, but I sell merch. I sell apparel. What you plan on doing this show, boy? Oh, you ain't get. You ain't get. I gotta check the calendar now. No, I'm good. No, I'm. Listen, I'm just here to support. Are there three days you got. You got it down. Down to three days. I just didn't support my man. Idiot. I'm here. I'm a team player. Look at Mark. Mark. Want to have fun with me? Look, look, you know, I do have to check the calendar, but when you plan. Just a floating concept. End of the year, after me and Asian go. Sh. Need a little bit of them. Hoodie. That hoodie. Yo, I can't. They was clown. They was clowning ice. They was clowning Ice. Cuz he got his iPhone cover already. His. The iPhone was 17 covered. I got all my already, so. Oh, I need to get a phone too. You got the early phone? Yeah, let's go. You got a hookup? No. Oh, all right. Pay for price. Hook up, call cash. When the phone. I thought it ain't came out yet. Phone come out Friday. Next Friday. Somebody called me yesterday and asked for the Crane Club hookup. Did you pass the law? I didn't hit him back. I don't even know how to. I don't know. Oh, I'mma call him later. That's my man. But I ain't know how to. Yeah, it's gonna look like I'm shady and I ain't. It was rocking in there the other day. I heard it was rocking in there the other night. I'm sure. I'm sure. They be lit. They be lit. I don't have anything else that's super important or urgent. I don't. I don't. I'm cool. I'm chilling. Peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity. We lit. We lit. This is a great episode, man. Yeah, good. Love you, boy. Done some fine work here. No matter what happened, I love you. No, that's a fact. That's. Yeah, I'll take it. That's the part that no matter what happens at all. Yeah, you Know how I feel about you. Even if I gotta, you know. I mean, you gotta do what you gotta do. Hey, that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot. It's a headache. It's a headache dealing with me. You did enough. You had a run. I did? Yeah. I mean, you caked up. Yeah. Built the oil. You. You did it. It really not. You did it. You did it. Yeah. You did it. I'm not signing the paperwork when I leave, but. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. I'm gonna kick your back in some way. You gonna have a footprint of your well. I'm not even like I got ready here to call you take a check. No, I'm not. Nitty might pop up on me. Hey, yo, would you did the jump. He be popping out of nowhere in at a diner check in and nitty core. You hit me up. Listen anyway n working on yes. Do y' all have anything that's. Should we do sleepers? No, just you. I think. I think we've hit a. I think we hit the point. I think we time. I concur. Where you got to go? Yo, I got nowhere to go. Stop rushing, men. Don't be be playing with him. Yo, it just feels like a natural end. Stop rushing us, miss. I'm not rushing. Add it to the patriot. I don't give a. I'm here all day. I'm just saying make sure we've hit a natural. What are you. You only be here. What are you talking about? Don't rush us. Don't rush us. Who was us? The team. You had a ten day contract. Yeah. Oh, please, please. No matter how you can be. The new prostate wouldn't let me go like that. Boy. Boy. You want to see my boy? Watch your mouth when you talk to me. I'm Jesus nephew up here. Watch your mouth when you talk to me. But you my man. I love you, man. I love you too. You that. He gonna laugh at this. Listen back. Oh, look at these going at him. We can't really talk what we want to talk about. We could. I ain't got nothing to say. They're like, get rid of him now. I can't believe he chose this loudmouth unhealthy fat. Get him out of here. They would tie me up, yo. I don't give a. The broadcast would laugh. Just know that lacking now man, we would all be more. A lot more peaceful and happy. But the airwaves, they would feel the effect. They would. I love Y', all, listen, man, good episode. Good episode today. A lot was said and not said. Yeah, Ego, if I was in my 20s in the 90s, I'm telling you something, that's where you got me. That's the one area you got me at. Using your 20s in the 90s, you wasn't gonna do nothing, huh? It had been the same. Nah, in the 90s, you had lugs on. Yo. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you ado farewell. Adios, arriba, diri, Hasta la vista, Arvois. So long. Goodbye, Ego. Shout to everybody in Vegas. Everybody at the airports, everybody at teeter barrel moving around. Be careful out there. If you in Vegas, travel safely. That's a good fight y' all at. Good fight y' all at. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Last but not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. What y' all doing this weekend, man? What's poppin? What's popping this weekend? The battle and football. Yep, football. I'm coming to your crib to watch a fight, boy. You're more than welcome. You're more than welcome to wait a while. That mooking, mooking Hitman battle. Yes. I ain't forgetting about shout out to Chilla Jones. Chill. I'm gonna hit you. I'm gonna hit you. Chilla. Your brother battling Jazz, right? Yeah. Oh, yo, the packers look like the real deal. Oh, yeah. Best team football, by the way. Yeah, for sure. I'm not mad at that. As of right now. I'm not mad at that. The packers look like a real deal. They legit. Who you think is better? Ish. Yet to be seen. True. Well, as of right now. Right now. As of right now, they look like them. He answer questions. I ain't see the. I ain't see the whole game yesterday. I only seen a little bit of the game. I was out. They're for real. They're like that. That defense is insane. They look tough. I ain't got too much going on this weekend. I'm watching the fight, I'm watching some football. I'm moving around. I'll find somewhere to bring my girl. Say, I don't take her nowhere. Now I gotta show off a little bit. Hey, what they do that? Till next time. Happy anniversary to the Lamont Hills. Hey, hey. Let's hit the round of applause. Lamont Hill. His wife name. Lamont Hill. Yes. One of my favorite couples. Congratulations. Shout out to them. Shout out to y'. All. And that's that. Man, don't. My anniversary coming up. Up. Huh? My anniversary coming. What day is the 17th of September? Oh, you shocked? N. Just look. Oh, I just remembered. God. This different. Double booked. Double booked. Never double. Happy anniversary to Flip. Shout out to Linky, man. Flipping Linky. Happy anniversary to y' all as well. 17 years. 17 years on the 17. Congratulations. Thank you. Stop smiling, boss. Keep on moving. Hey, I'm glad you caught it. Hey, wait a minute. It goes. Y' all hold it down out there, man. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. Hey, remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's a. Now I'm letting it go. It's a minute left, y'. All. Hey, shout out to the patronies out there. Shout out to the subgroups. If you are not subscribed, go over to Patreon right now, man. Hey, y' all are down out there, man. Same time, same place next week. Well, fold that up right now. Don't look away now. Gay people work for me right now. I'm damn near around gay people every day because they work for me. I don't got no problem with them. What they do.