
The JBP starts its new episode with their thoughts on Young Thug’s new album (22:15) as well as the ongoing beef between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj (34:30). Jazz rookie Ace Bailey drops his agent leading the room to discuss loyalty in business...
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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.
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That's. That was crazy.
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That was crazy.
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I'm gonna be hating today. Yeah, that was kind of crazy, me saying that you don't have the greatest freestyle ever.
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No, the mic.
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Oh, yeah, we get a go. I can't.
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What?
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I told you.
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We're actually late to. We're late.
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We late.
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Good morning. Just chilling.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Welcome back.
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Hey.
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Now back to. Back to.
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Back to the hater.
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I'm not a hater.
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That was hate, though.
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Joe is a great rapper. I gotta tell you something. I've always appreciated Joe's talent.
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Okay.
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I just don't think he has the greatest freestyle ever.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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There's nothing wrong with that. What was wrong was wrong.
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It was the dismissive nature.
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Yeah.
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Without even knowing the freestyle, somebody know. Well, somebody else was saying, hey, I think this Joe Button freestyle is the greatest freestyle.
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That's exactly.
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And once somebody says a lot of.
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People don't know that they Some shit up. I'm not talking about Mark. But people don't be knowing when they saying some shit they ain't supposed to say.
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Yeah, that's true. But some opinions, like I would be like that disqualifies you from the conversation.
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But at least if you're familiar with what they talking about. Because again, it could possibly be that.
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What is the greatest freestyle black thought on Flex?
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Now to some Philly black thought.
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I die on that hill.
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And I'm not mad at that, by the way.
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Was that 2019? That was recent.
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Like it might have been 2020 or somewhere. Anniversary.
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What was the greatest freestyle ever before that?
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That's new ROC.
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A fella invades Hot 97.
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That's a good joint. Yeah, you might have it there. He's only 16, that joint.
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He's saying freestyle.
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Even with all that still being on the album. So we all knew it was written. You still consider it that there's a couple.
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Cause remember when they came through the. When they came through Hot 97 that day, they crushed everything. It was a few of them. But I can tell you this. Whatever it is from Philly. No, we know that's it. That's the real point.
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Led by New York.
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Yeah.
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Led by New York. You know what I'm saying? The New York opened the door and, you know, had to grab him by.
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The hand and say, come on.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Show you how to get there.
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Yes.
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Wow.
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Cause remember Memphis Bleak bought his own rapper. And he kept trying to make them, like, go against them, and they was smart. Smoking him like, yo, it's embarrassing.
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Some streets you had behind that.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Have y' all heard the whole Grammy family freestyle? I'm just curious.
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The what Grammy family freestyle?
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Jay Z.
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I don't know about that name. I'm sure I heard it back then. I heard everything.
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But let's continue this conversation on Broad. The Broad Street Daily Journal. Whatever. What's the Philly.
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It's called the Daily.
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What's your. Philly Bean Pies Daily.
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That's a great name, though. Street Journal.
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Yeah.
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I didn't know the name.
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Came up with something. The Street Journal.
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Sound, don't buy into this.
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I don't want y'.
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All. They going to try to belittle us now.
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No, no, no, I'm not.
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They're from Jersey.
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I just don't exactly.
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Philly is Jersey.
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What is you talking about?
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Come on. They. They told me that Camden was East Philly.
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It is. I say. I say that all the time.
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I didn't know till y' all told me.
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Camden, kind of.
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Yeah, they can have.
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They used to call it Dirty Jersey.
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No, it's not Jersey at all. It's East Philly.
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I don't want. Because there's two of y' all from Philly. I don't want y' all to develop a connection.
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Sorry, it's too late.
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Too late. This, this, this and my mother.
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You know, Philly people are gonna. I mean, stick together.
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Jersey people stick together.
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And we not gonna say like. Like it's anything like, you know, rude or ghetto. But if a fight break out, me and him, back to back, we got.
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About a half dozen texts like, oh, it's a Philly pod.
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Now, I would say half a dozen. Maybe.
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Maybe four or five you clearly ain't seen.
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I'm talking me. I'm saying me.
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Oh, you ain his MRI results.
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Talk about fight.
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That shoulder. Bad knee is bad. Last week on the part, he was just sitting there and started pull the hamstring.
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Sitting. I pulled another one last episode. I just didn't say nothing. I just cried inside. I did not get me two weeks in a row.
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That was the craziest I ever seen in my life.
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You heard?
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And Yelled what? He didn't yell in here.
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I didn't yell. He had a tr.
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From sitting.
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He yelled.
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I think we got some music to play. We got some things.
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That's the thing about the Philly. Like, yeah, Philly has infiltrated the Joe Button podcast. That's true. But the Philly, like, sports thing is gonna. You know me.
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Yeah.
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Hoopers.
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Philly Hoopers.
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I can't talk about the Eagles.
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The Eagles could win the Super Bowl. The Phillies could win the World Series. So we. We doing all right?
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We're doing great.
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We doing great. Better than New York teams, for sure. Yeah. Especially if that. That investigation I keep calling for. You're not alone, Kawhi.
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Oh, please. How y' all feeling? Y' all looking good? Feeling great. Feeling good.
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It feels like a Friday.
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It does.
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It is a Friday, turns out.
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Oh, well, I'll draw you back in about five hours.
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Oh, yeah, you filled in.
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Oh, yeah. That shit starts sitting there. You'd be like, y' all do look chipper and happy. I'm in my head, like, I'm getting all my. All the work in today. We'd be out of here like, 11.
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Oh.
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Oh, it's mad topics. I want to hear from y' all about all of this. Look, y' all made plans for the night.
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Not me.
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Mona, bro. The home girl here. She's smelling good.
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Juice in the building.
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She's smelling good.
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And, oh, they thought they was going to slide somewhere after this.
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I hope they ain't got nowhere to.
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Be the after hours. You going be mad as around seven. I'm telling you now.
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I hope you ain't hit nobody. Talking about I'm in your city.
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Mad at four.
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No, four. You going to be tired. Seven. Seven. You're gonna be mad, okay? Around eight, you're gonna start looking at me. I'm gonna start looking at parks, and that's when the cussing starts under your breath. Just keep it under your breath because that just exo wall.
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That's true.
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Oh, it makes it.
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It makes it worse.
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If you look like you want to go, oh, my God, he's gonna find a topic. He's just making crickets. What's up with that? You know, you just start talking about that for 20 minutes.
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We work at Amazon.
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Yeah, basically.
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But no, no, really, Because Amazon, they get breaks.
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Oh, yeah. We don't get breaks.
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All right, Enough of being up the workplace.
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No, let's leave it up. Go ahead.
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Nah. Cause y' all gonna make that worse. Y' all not making it worse for everybody. I Feel like stick together, you know what I'm saying? Let that nigga separate you separate them. And on top of that, he never get at y', all, too. You know what I'm saying? He ain't gonna get at y', all, too. Oh, yeah, you know he do all look. Nah, he ain't get that y', all, too.
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You back on that, Mona.
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He gonna get that y', all, too. But I'm on his ass today. And I'm on y' all ass, so let's keep it good. We here to work. We have a long day today.
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Let's stay on the same page today.
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Yeah, all right.
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I was, too. I was messing with you too much.
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Oh, you my man.
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Come on.
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We got over that, Mark.
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Come on.
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Yeah, I got.
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I deserve that.
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I deserve that. You know what I'm saying?
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You know what I mean?
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I deserve that, my friend.
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We had breakfast together.
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No, we did.
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Today.
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I was outside minding my business on a business meeting. You brought Juicy to press me? Hey, yo, nigga, what's up? We got some content to do. I said, girl, no, put that shirt.
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Up and showed this. You mean the pocket rocket on it? Keep it on her. Psych.
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What's up, Joe? How you doing, man?
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I'm good.
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Yeah?
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How to see you, man.
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It's good to see everybody.
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Yo, I went home. I told my wife, yo, you gotta make that turkey. That turkey wing he pound, boy. Got it down a lot. That was good, boy.
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Them turkey wings, they look good.
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I slap you, you don't bring me. Yeah, you try to violate me, too. I thought about that. Like, didn't want to share. You ain't want to share? Son, you stopped my plate.
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I never outgrew that from, like, second grade. Like, I'd be stingy with food sometimes.
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Yo, you can't do that. You share what you give.
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No, you don't.
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You very giving.
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And I share my food.
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He stitched you with his wife's food.
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No, that's not true. I'm talking right now. Yeah, no, I'm talking.
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That was mad good.
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Yeah, it was good. It was good.
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And that was homemade gravy. I could tell.
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Oh, no.
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She made that damn gravy.
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It was good. My mom go, I didn't get no turkey wings. All right, let's get it. Let's get to it.
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Let's get it.
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Oops.
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There we go.
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Waking up brisk. That's Kodak killing these. You know that. Real street. You know that, Mike Shake. One, two, one, two, one, two. Whole Philadelphia make some Noise, look. Psych. Get the out of here. Me and Y go crazy I think.
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Me and Young go crazy.
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Jersey.
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What up, New York City?
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What up? Shout out to wherever you might be listening from.
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Nigga.
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Money, keep a nigga motivated.
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Molly, keep a nigga motivated.
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Percocet, keep a motivated.
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I sit by the COVID this.
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I.
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Do what I want when I smoke.
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As I said I drink till I pass out I wake up and drink.
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Up again I pull up again and.
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Again I said I wasn't gonna fold.
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With that bitch and I fought her.
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Again I still mighty girl in the school.
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When I say super that your.
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Super future.
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Turning that boy out the.
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Back of the yard Work on your horns and playing my car.
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Ain'T that wrong.
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I don't want to give you the wrong impression I need love and affection.
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It's falling.
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New York, get your good lover out.
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Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check. Yes, sir.
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Wake it the up out the map.
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Tough to cut that off.
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Y' all up, y' all up, y' all up. Y' all up. Y' all up. Y' all up, y' all up.
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You woke it up.
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Phone's up, y' all up. You woke it up. All right, Great. There we go. No rush. Shout out to the first and last time listeners out there. You really can't cut this off. Oh, my God.
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I wonder, did he know what he made when he made that?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, probably. That one felt good coming off the reverse.
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Yes.
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That was the Steph Curry. I don't gotta look at the rim.
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Yeah.
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I can turn my back to the basket for this one.
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Wearing that one to the club immediately. Take it right now. Let's go.
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We out.
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What a time.
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That one right there.
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What a time. Plenty of good nights with that wrestler.
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That's back when you still outside.
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Yes.
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This card. What's that? You close that. Where's mine?
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You. You don't have one yet. It's your second day at work.
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Whatever.
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Whatever.
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Last week, this said, you want to do a song? You want to do a little song? But I said, yeah, I want this song's favorite song in the world. He said, all right. Got on camera, said she thought I had a song cut up, but I don't her. We got the Mona.
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I did do that. I did do that. That was. That was.
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We got shout out for and Flip and Mona.
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Mona. Mona, Mona.
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There we go.
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I don't like the energy on it.
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You know what it is? I was thinking about this because you're the only person with two syllables in your name up here. Because it's like Joe Parks ish. Ice flip Mark. Mel.
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Look what a PhD told us.
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Too smart.
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God damn.
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It was one of my waves. It was one of my waves.
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Your name is two syllables.
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Cause I was thinking about how harder, a little bit harder to do the thing. I was.
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Look how dumb Mark think we are.
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I was locked in that one day and I was thinking about this.
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We could do mo.
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That might work. I think that sounds better.
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He calls me Big moaning, though, and I like it.
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Well, that's. Cause when we met, I thought it was my present.
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Hey, Big Juicy. She thought she was exempt. Juicy.
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She thought she was exempt when we met. She was. But her presence. Her presence looms large. Her presence looms anyway.
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Yo, what episode is this?
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864.
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Welcome to episode 864, the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by a few by power by Prize picks. Prize fish gang. You. I'm your humble gracious.
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They won't prep me. It's not fair. Come on, let's do it.
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All right.
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Come on. Whatever.
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864.
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Welcome to 864. We're doing a Hitman holler remix on the podcast.
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I said.
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8:64 to Joe Button podcast brought to you by power by.
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Yay.
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Yay.
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Prize picks. Prize picks, gang.
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Here we go.
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I'm your humble, grateful gracious. Really happy to be here, host Joe Button. And the gang is all here. And the gang being next to me is Big Mona in the building next to her. Queen's Flip is in the building next to him. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Big Freeze is here. Big Parks is here. Po is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. What's your friend's name again?
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Jim Juice.
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Big Juice is here. Last but not least. Oh, wait. Tan and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least. Each and every one of you guys out there are here. How's everybody doing? What's poppin? What's poppin?
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What's poppin'? Everything.
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Happy to see y'. All.
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Happy to be here, bro.
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Happy to be here.
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Good, good, good, good. Ready for a long day of work. All right, first up, and shout out.
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To our people, our comrades in spirit who are not here. We got. I'm sitting in Ish's scene and Mel's not here as well. So the shout out to both of them, sending them both love. Yes.
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Yes.
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See, that's the problem.
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This is. This is why we can't get Nowhere. This is why we can't get no, it's this.
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We can't get nowhere as a people, man, y'. All. Y' all were looking for some shade and it's nothing. It's just like.
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I'm down with you.
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Yeah, it's just like. Shout out both of them. Yeah, shout out both of them.
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Y' all get quiet.
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Look, too many words. Hey, the less words, the better.
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Yeah, yeah, shout out to them, man.
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Can I get something off my chest, though, since. Since we talking. Do you mind?
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Please? I don't mind. I don't mind at all.
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So yesterday, two days ago, the Ian and Mark show came out and did y'. All. Y' all see it? Yeah, I know y'. All.
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You got a nice little gym in the basement.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's a nice house too. It's not. That's not the real house.
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Oh, shit.
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Well, the prop house was a big prop house.
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The prop house is dope. I wish that was my house. It's not, though. It was my basement. Po's been to my house. It's not mine. It's not my house. But anyway, that's not the point. Point is we put out this episode, which I think is one of our better episodes. I think it was pretty funny. If y' all didn't watch it, watch it. And then people keep hitting me up thinking that the episode is some deep attack on the co workers up here.
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Yo, that's what I thought.
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Just cause you're a piece of shit.
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You're the executive producer, by the way.
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Oh, fuck.
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You got me. So it is like. Just to be clear, at no point whenever we make these shows are we sitting around thinking about anybody else. Specifically, if you don't watch the episode, the episode plays on the idea that I'm scamming Joe and Ian.
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Got it. I saw that, Paul.
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And that I'm faking workplace injuries in order to be off of work.
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Mute up $100 on the dad. We got him.
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Right?
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Not the knee slayer.
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No, honestly, I should have saw that. Oh, you was in the hospital. I should have not knew it. Listen, you know, why you. You know, I should have been right.
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At the door for the audience that is unaware.
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I don't think this is going the way you wanted it at all.
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This is not going at all. I should have said this before Flip got here. The point is. The point is that wasn't what the intent was. First of all, the episode was shot long time ago, weeks ago. It was written six weeks ago. The photo of Me in the hospital soldier. Yeah, it was from Ford.
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That'll tell.
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The photo of me in the hospital from four years ago. I didn't make a hospital photo to mock anybody.
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This is all very believable.
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I have one on deck.
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Yeah, it's been on my Instagram for four years. It's still there, right?
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I love when him and Imani do this.
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Yeah, word. So, no, no. But, you know, so I'm just saying, just so you know, the episode, which y' all should check out on Patreon on Joe Budden Network is dope, but it is not a shot at anybody. It's all of it. I would never do that. Did you get blocked? No. Did you get a text? No.
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We good, then.
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No, but I want. I don't want the fact I'm getting response. Enough of a response from the fans that I want them to know. Got it.
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Clear it up, then.
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I care. You know what? I care about the fans, and I want.
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We all do.
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I know y'. All.
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We be on Clean up. Clean up. Everybody everywhere.
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All right. You know that. Are you done?
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This definitely didn't go according to plan. I immediately regret this decision.
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Who wrote the script?
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Right?
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Awesome.
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You get away with that?
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A forever mark.
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A forever.
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I just try to be honest.
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I can't believe you trying to make fun of my. I can't believe I get more sitting next to that. Sitting next to that.
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Joe button is red for the listening. Joe button is red.
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When you going to hold accountable?
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This is red.
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I can't believe it.
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I know he turned that color.
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Well, see, y' all are part of the problem.
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He's cracking the up.
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You was the only one I was with, and you left me. You fell victim.
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Yo, please stop.
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He became toxic, yo.
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Oh, my God.
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All right, all right.
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Okay. Order in the court.
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So please.
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That's when.
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Respond.
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Okay, enough.
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Let's.
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Let's break down this Yellow Talk album.
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That's always our transition, apparently. Yes. It's a Young Thug, yo.
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I ain't gonna lie. Hey, Golden Globes, we got the best transitions in the game by far. They can't fuck with us. So. Young Thug.
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Young Thug.
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Flip is a fucking yo. You can always tell when she called one of these niggas.
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Hey, I wanna do it. I wanna make an announcement. Stop it.
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And they always do it right at the top.
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Yo, yo, before all of this important shit, that pays the bills.
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Hey, I ain't getting no call. I just. No, it came up naturally.
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That's what I'm saying.
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When I Said I. When I said Ish and Mel weren't here, that's all. It just made me think. I want people to think that this.
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All felt super organic.
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You're right. I'm done. I'm done. Thank you. Thank you.
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Organic man of the year.
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It's over.
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Boo.
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So the Young Thug album.
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So Young Thug's album.
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Highly anticipated.
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This might be the first I put in the trash in a long time.
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Oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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I ain't gonna lie, because I bought it. I bought it because Cardi went absolutely crazy and. Yeah.
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Can we start with how to pronounce it?
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Can we start with the COVID Yeah. Or that.
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The COVID was what got me. But he's known for doing wild with his car.
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I was so thrown off. The first. First person I saw post it was someone I know from overseas, like in Germany. And I felt that, like this was this. Something was wrong here. I felt like this was bad.
A
Oh, got it.
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But then it was real.
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A lot of people right now are mad at this. One of the songs where he's saying the N word with the er.
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Yeah.
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The very first record. There's a lot of. A lot of backlash he's getting right now. People are mad. They're trying to boycott it. I saw it on Twitter.
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Why? What's the idea?
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You.
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He was just on the. On the record saying the NW with the hard er. I don't want to say it on here, but you know, the way he was saying it. The way he was saying it. You look at the COVID He cover, he's white. Then the first song you hear.
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You hear.
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You know what I'm saying? So.
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Oh, he's. I'm sorry. I'm slow. I'm looking at the COVID I didn't. I didn't think he was.
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He's supposed to be bleached, right?
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Well, his eyes are blue too. It's not just bleach.
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I'm not sure what was going on there.
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Well, unless Spice did that some years ago.
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It's Thug doing what Thug does with his album cover. Some to get talking about it. This ain't new.
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It worked.
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This is not new.
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It did work since the purple dress.
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Not just other cover. The Barter six butt naked standing there like he's been doing that.
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He about to go and joke.
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I don't with it. But if I know what you're doing, I know how to not fall for that. That's what I was. So I said, oh, all right. I know what you're doing.
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Well, good.
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Just a lot of words for white face. Just a lot of words. You don't even need that many words.
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Did it hit you as whiteface when you first saw it? Like when you made.
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When I saw it, he made his eyes blue. Then I'm like. Cause at first I just like, all right, he on some nut shit. But once you make the eyes blue, that means that. Oh, you dead ass.
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Dead ass.
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You want it to be my eyes blue mean you dead ass.
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Someone called.
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I heard how he. I'm like, all right, I can't wait to see how he makes this connect because it's art. So I turn the album on and I see what he tried to do in track one.
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I'll play it.
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If I could remember the name Ninja. Yeah, I'll play it. I see what he tried to do, but I don't think it resonated well connected.
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I don't think it did at all.
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So let's see this.
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It's a long.
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I'm not playing all of it.
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You can just go to there that.
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You see the shadow in the back of the room. He's the.
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Yeah, here.
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Or should I place a little bit to the end?
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He do it at the end of the part you talk about.
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Yeah.
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He's fighting any look up to us.
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That's a fact.
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Everything we do but everything we do is translation.
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Roll me up some stanky danky.
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Yeah.
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They follow us.
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Cause it ain't man we can't get.
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Here Big B Gates on the ship I sanct it.
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Yeah. Every time they play we spank you.
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Yeah. When she can't get a hold of.
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You she called me.
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Yeah.
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Only one left. The Gucci socks and your sheets yeah.
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Talking cars I got every animal in my fleet yeah.
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I chop out the meat I chop.
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Down the feet despite got a wreaking me.
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Yeah.
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I can't. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.
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I was mad.
B
I was looking for this at midnight. I smoked me a little doobie to get in the.
D
Get in the mood.
B
And then by 12:30 it still wasn't outside.
C
Yeah, I gave up.
B
What makes that bad is I gotta listen to this first thing in the morning. Yeah, this is not first thing in the morning. Review time music for me.
D
No, but this is the song where the, er. Thing came at the end.
A
Yes, at the end.
F
Yeah.
E
He's trying to do like a. Like a little like a white boy type of voice, right? Is that what he's trying to do?
C
That's what it sounded like. And then again with the white cover Like I don't know what you're doing.
E
I.
C
Art is left. Art is meant to be interpreted or whatever. I don't know your angle. I don't know what you went to do up until that point. The song was all right. Yeah, like it sound like thug. It sound like some club thug music. It wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't terrible. It wasn't, oh, this is the best in the world. It was all right until you went that route. Now I don't know what your goal was. So I was like, all right, my. Whatever you want, you. You got it.
A
Fair.
D
Does the album get better?
B
There's some joints here. Okay, for sure.
A
I like a couple of joints.
B
I like the TI record a lot. I like. One of the Mariah records was dope. The Little Baby record was pretty dope to me. The Luchi record was dope to me.
E
Yeah, the Luchi one.
B
I like that. There were some other ones, some solo records that I liked. I don't remember what the song was.
C
Yeah, I don't remember.
E
The Luci song is so much bigger than just the song. Like that's a big deal, right?
C
And there's two, there's two of them. Because Luchi also dropped his album and.
A
Thug is on there as well.
E
I wonder who has the better song.
C
They did, did one of those type of swaps.
E
But Luchi's isn't out yet, right?
C
They're both out.
E
That's what's up though, that they collabed.
D
And production wise, this is one of the things. Sometimes when I. When these records come out, it sounds like one long ass song to me.
B
It's a bunch of different. Which would be another issue I had with the albums. It was a little bit all over the place in terms of vibes. Like it wasn't really. Like it didn't flow good to me naturally at all. Which was an issue with his last album. Then Metro re sequenced it and it was much better. Maybe someone needs to do that with this.
C
Sequencing is so important with your album, dog. A lot of people don't get it.
B
It is.
C
They be busy putting this art, this feature up here and you know what I'm saying? What's going get people to listen earlier. You know, the way your album flow.
E
Is is I wonder was this planned or was this rushed? Because that interview went so big? Like I wonder did he just try to watch his name was still around? They try to rush and do it and finish it or was it planned for it to drop right now? Because that big bank interview was. Went crazy.
D
It did.
B
I could see them trying to capitalize on that. But he's been announced this album courtside at the.
C
Yeah, they've been teasing album.
A
Yeah.
C
For a long time.
B
For a minute.
A
Well, what the hell does that do? A tease. Who the hell is Atlantic spending some money on? Come on, let's talk. What these niggas spend money on for.
C
This album, you mean?
B
Yeah, Cardiff.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
C
Like in terms of promotion, Travis.
B
Feature. Some of these features probably cost a couple bucks.
A
Okay.
B
But I see what your boy is marketing wise, and that's.
C
That's.
A
That's a different budget too, the feature budget.
B
Oh, you're right.
F
Oh, yeah.
A
I'm just talking about what they spent for again, one more popular artist to let people know that this was coming out.
C
Only thing I saw was a couple. I want to say maybe a month. Month or two ago, he started sending spiders to.
E
Oh, he did?
C
Yeah, to like media folk like spiders. Because, you know, young thugs like those packages.
D
It was like.
C
Like the little package.
E
But it was real cool with the.
C
Album title in there and. And that. That's all I saw.
E
That's the only thing I saw that.
B
Don'T sound like a very expensive marketing budget.
A
Back to Yalls cohesive point. Right When I heard Whoop Dee Doo, I thought that he. That's when I thought that he rushed this because I didn't feel like Whoopty Doo maybe was in there originally might not even existed. It sound like thug without them saying Whoopty doo too.
E
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Like, I don't believe that you. And. And you know what?
D
Hey, check this out.
A
Even if I'm wrong, you're not. That means that you purposely turned whoop de do into some. About tricking.
E
Yeah.
A
And no way you did. You took whoopty doo from the interview and turned it into something about tricking. Right.
D
I take it advice. Am I.
A
Am I off?
D
No, no, you're right.
E
He took advantage of it. Yeah.
C
Which again.
E
But why not it. I would have had T shirts already.
A
Wor man hit the Instagram producer that made the Whoopy Doo track that went viral already cheap. The system put some bars on there and call it a day. But this Whoopty do. I don't want to speak too soon, cuz this might work.
B
Yeah.
C
Still you just. No, not saying this just ain't it. Even if it works.
E
I wonder what.
A
I would like this song more if he wasn't saying Whoopi Doom.
E
If it came out with whatever he was saying. Originally, because they just took that out and added whippedy do. That's what it sound like. They were saying some other slick shit, you know what I mean? And they just switched it out.
A
I do like. I do like on the news. Yeah.
B
I like all the more melodic records on here.
A
She ate him up my wrist and.
E
Got little mama eat me up I flooded my wrist Rainbow roll it like a punk tonight we stepped on them trying to mask do you know how I feel to see your face on her nose?
F
Do you know how I feel to.
E
See your face on her do you know how I feel to see your.
F
Face on her nose?
E
I thought Sony is crazy.
A
That was the hook. That was the chorus. Yeah. Look at y'.
D
All.
E
I'm a big thug fan.
D
I'm underwhelmed so far. I didn't get a chance to listen because I was traveling late, but I'm. I'm underwhelmed so far from what y' all played.
A
Well, do you answer them? Do you know how I feel to see if it's on the news? Yes. Well, you do. You kind of radical.
E
Oh, yeah, duh. Okay, cnn.
A
I want to get to Cardi on this. I do. There go, there you go. There you go. There you go. There you go. There you go. Like mama.
E
We with tens. Who is that? It's just me and my friend. Dark skinned, light skinned. We still twins. Lose a sweaty God it winning since when Richie face extra large seven big bodies ain't no seven balls got more diamonds than a deck of cars this texting me.
A
Once she begins to describe her side of things it does tug on the heart Heartstrings like I told you to keep it low and you trash I told you keep it low. You started the op crazy like do be the wrong chick sometimes. Like sometimes your girl is all right with you being outside. And you can go the three, four.
C
You gotta go over there.
A
You could have kept it cute.
E
How you lord when you got these laughing behind laughing when I heard you getting beat on Gotta pay your way.
A
Every trip y be on see yeah.
D
She eating on this.
A
Gloves is off. That's. That's aggressive. That's why you play with girl. Girls don't know how to play fight.
D
We ain't playing.
E
Well, where was he playing at?
A
No, I'm talking about this part that she had now, which is she's. She's moved on from him. Yeah, she's now talking to somebody else. That I ain't saying because they playing too different dirty for me. But God damn. Hey, you Know what it man, that beef is never gonna end.
C
Nope.
B
No, I don't think so.
A
Cardi and Nikki's never gonna end. That might as well be Drake and Kendrick now, right?
D
Yeah.
E
You know what would have helped them if they just fist for it?
A
Well, they tried.
D
One of them tried.
E
They tried saying just meet up and just fight.
A
We don't condone that.
E
They need to fight.
A
No, they don't.
E
They need to get that on on. They get that off their chest. Men do it all the time. French men to go around. Okay, we tired of arguing. Come on, go around back. Nobody see. Like if y' all was fussing right now, two of y' all go around the back, get that on, come back a little sweaty, lip a little bloody. But we passed it. Now we talking about basketball.
C
Women ain't gonna do that.
A
Who and. And they not.
E
And do you think them two not.
C
But I feel like if they went around the corner and fought, what you think will happen next time one of them get in the booth?
A
Right?
E
That's the whole point of the fight. We leaving it behind the Target parking lot dumpster. That's what we're leaving today.
C
It don't work that way.
A
Yeah, that's old school.
C
I know what you mean, but that ain't gonna happen.
A
No, no. Yeah, that's old school. At the risk of sounding like a bitch, like the women don't know how to just keep it to the hands.
F
They use cards and.
A
Will clap you out here. Yeah, I don't know how many women are to lose a fight today.
E
If you were Cardi, they don't like losing fights.
B
People, they don't like losing arguments, you.
E
Know what I mean? Like, if y' all were one of them, could you piece it up and start over? If you were Cardi, could you piece it up? When they give you renicky, could you piece it up with Cardi? Cuz I feel like if I was Cardi and a lot of things that come out were are true, I probably would want to hold that too. Cuz it's like you. You didn't me before you even knew.
B
Me like that lost the plot. I don't even remember what this is all about.
E
With the beef. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was. And I don't bite my head off because, you know, but I thought it was just the whole idea of Nikki wasn't. She was real standoffish with people that were coming. The new girls, like, that's how they try to pitch it to people. But when people post proof of her being like, you know, mean girlish or whatever, then what? You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
C
So I don't think no longer's been crossed where there's no coming back from, really.
D
Like, that's about.
C
Not that I know of. Anyway. Something might have happened.
D
Jeezy.
F
Gucci's made up Lucci and Doug. Like, anything.
D
Anything can happen.
A
Here come the fans and music. Still rooting for friendships.
F
Friendships are important, dog.
A
None of these people give a About each other. Nobody is calling the other one to go bowling on a Sunday night. It's not happening.
C
But you know what a pro. Like, I'm with you. We don't have to be cool. But I could also, like, I ain't gotta shoot at you no more. You ain't gotta shoot at me no more. Because it ain't even really us. It's the people that with me might run into the people that with you. And now something happened where it's the one. We could have been that part.
D
That's the history of hip hop. That's all it is.
C
It ain't two that's really in it. I got a hundred niggas that fuck with me, and you got 100 niggas that fuck with you. And three of them happen to run into the other five off in a club. Well, one, but now somebody ain't going home.
A
Well, one, we should do. We should get back to our young thug review.
B
We should.
C
Oh, okay.
A
Two, I think that they both. They both got too much money, so.
E
And one of them.
A
They both got too much money.
E
Oh, one of. One of them have a very dedicated cult like fan base. And the fans are a big part of the reason why this go. You know what I mean? They call parole office offices and the barbs don't around listen.
A
And they. For me, they ain't been beefing long enough for us to be at that part of it. We on year 39 of John 50 on the guy's side. We got a few beefs that. That are ongoing still that I think we. We seen that Gucci and Jeezy and we just thought all Glocks down was happening nationwide.
E
You said who and who.
A
Jeezy and Gucci, when they squash it during the verses.
E
And I felt like she was so, like, shady.
D
And that was the most tense. Yeah, that was beef squash I've ever seen.
E
That just. Yeah, that did. They didn't do that well because they didn't even come off like it was even close to real.
A
I thought I was gonna get shot in my Bedroom, right. Watching that, I was a little nervous.
E
Gucci gave. I hit another one of your friends, right? Yeah, another one could get it if you run up here too quick. All right. Please play the song.
D
That's actually exactly how it.
E
Exactly how he act.
D
You know that look too good right here.
E
Play the song. He's a. I'm a real street. Play the song. Like, damn, Gooch. Gooch came off real querious, shady, petty like.
C
Nah, they been.
E
I mean, but we gonna get back to. It was his life, though, in that.
C
We gonna get back to thug real quick in that. What you're speaking to. They spoke before it happened and he said, yo, this is what I'm gonna do.
E
Do.
C
Oh, they spoke. It was understanding. It was an understanding. Like, yo, I'm going to do this. I'm yo, get your off, dog.
A
Oh, I wouldn't agree.
E
I would agree he looked like mortified a little bit.
D
Cuz it still went further than he thought.
E
Say everything he going to do. I like everything he can't say everything he going to do.
A
I do need to let you know. I need to let you know which hives we all are in.
E
Oh, yeah. I do need to know that.
B
That's true. It's important.
A
Important because I let you get the Nikki off. I'm kind of right. I'm in that.
E
Right in with them.
A
But I'm in the body. I have too. I rep all the girls in the.
E
Barty hive in the bar.
A
See, I disagree with that.
E
It's impossible.
A
I disagree with that.
E
You can be a Nick. I'm a fan of Nikki. I'm not a Barb. You can't be a Barb. And like anybody else, you gotta only like her. Like, that's how they get down. I mean, you.
C
I'm in the car.
E
They probably let you.
A
But anyway, Ice is vice is in the Jeezy High big time.
C
For sure. President.
E
Are you the president of the high?
A
For sure.
D
Yeah, for sure.
A
For sure.
B
Oh, all right.
A
Parks is in a diggable plan at time.
E
You okay.
D
So, you know solid.
E
He's in the J elect.
A
Oh.
D
Which is the same as the ticket we plan in time.
E
Exactly the same house.
D
No, no, it's not.
A
No, it's not.
C
No. He's in a different house.
E
Did y' all peep? I did J Elect.
D
No.
B
I'm also. Okay, this is the thing.
D
I'm in both. We both we in both the high.
A
Eggs at that high.
D
Shout out to the seed knowledge. Shout out to everybody in that house.
E
Last name or The God. A lot of y' all got the last name of God.
D
That's what I'm saying. If I digable planets, see Knowledge, who from Philly is a 5 percenter just like J?
B
There we go.
D
Yeah, it all connects.
E
Are There any other 5 percenters in the room?
C
No, no, no.
D
And I'm not a Five Percenter.
E
Touche.
A
You.
C
You stopped.
D
Just because I know that the Original man is the Asiatic Black man making the owner planet the Five Simple Universe don't mean that I'm a Five Percenter.
B
That's true.
D
I made my case. Once again, I made a case for myself.
E
Flip. What? Hybrid, are you in Queens.
F
Queens? Queens Island.
E
LL Cool J.
F
No. 50. Probably. 50.
E
50, Nikki.
D
I think just 50.
A
Yeah, 50.
E
Okay.
B
She didn't mind, remember? You on that space? I wasn't gonna do it.
F
I dropped out. I dropped out.
C
You turned your paperwork in?
D
I had to.
B
Wow.
F
What's your name again?
B
Queen's flop.
F
What?
A
Oh, all right. So we don't have anything else on Young Thug.
F
I have a question real quick, Joe.
E
I'm in the Thug.
F
Seeing that you talked about the sequence of the album. Right. Do you think that the featured guests care about the number that they are on the album? You know, back in the days in the mixtapes, people would get mad that they weren't this high on the album or they were on the A side or they weren't like number one or number two or number three. Do you think that artists care about that now?
D
Like features?
A
I don't think so, no.
F
Because remember, that was a big thing when I was younger. I remember that, yeah.
A
I don't think that's happened. Happening.
B
Okay, now, maybe to some degree. I don't think anybody wants to be on track 25, but.
F
So you. Okay.
B
But I don't know if there's like a fight for it in the same way. It depends on who you're. Whose track you're featuring on. I think with someone like Young Thug.
A
They, you know, Little Baby sound good in this album too.
B
He did, actually.
C
Yeah.
A
Little Baby sounds good.
B
He did.
A
I know the streets be trying to say some other, but you still sound good to me.
C
Oh, the streets are right. But people sounded good here.
F
Damn, Freeze.
A
What? Freeze.
C
Come on, man.
F
God damn, freeze.
E
It start all sounding the same to.
C
The point where the streets. Same streets. He's talking about is speaking. That he's possibly talking about retiring. It's looking like that. I would love for him not to and get back to what we know he can do, but he ain't there right now.
F
Okay, freeze.
C
That's all.
D
How does this album do in terms of numbers? What do we. What do. What do you expect from a Young thug project at this point?
B
It's gonna do Well, I think buck 50 plus.
A
Oh.
B
Just because of the anticipation. I don't know if second week is going to be as good just because I don't think that it's executed as well as he probably should have. But I think it's gonna still do well. Just off the anticipation.
E
I just had so much high hopes cuz he dropped jail and the one from jail was like, I don't.
A
I don't have the eyes for the numbers.
C
I don't have him doing a 100.
B
Really.
A
I thought a buck 20 might be.
E
Pushing it even though he fresh out.
A
I don't think as many people care that, you know what? I'm shut down.
E
I don't know.
C
I think the higher.
A
I don't think that the consumer cares about that. Like the Internet would lead you to believe. That's what I'm saying.
C
And there's been nothing to make them care about that. There's been no single. There's been nothing that he's been doing to say. A lot of people a know this album was dropping.
D
Yeah, I didn't.
C
It was. And then it was. It was supposed to drop last week. Then he said, I'm moving it because of Cardi. Letting the women have their thing first. And you drop the same. There's Doa Cat.
B
His last one did 89. So. Yeah, you might. You guys might be right.
E
The last one from jail, right? With the courthouse. Yeah.
A
Business that he said about Cardi was the first thing that let me know. Oh, all right.
D
Yeah, I hear you big right?
A
What a gentleman.
D
I'll let the ladies have her. Get her 200 off.
C
I didn't even get that. Because you moved to DO week. Who puts up numbers but cheated up?
E
It's a pop album for do though, right?
B
Super, super popular.
E
It's like, girl, let me ask you a question, Ice. Do. Do you think that he has the kind of fan base that no matter what he put out, they going to support, they going to buy it. Cuz I. That's why I feel like the. The Thug fans, we don't care. We just. It's him.
C
I don't. I think that he has a. He has a hive as we talking about hives. I don't think they're gonna buy enough to push him up to the numbers that everybody talking about.
E
Okay.
C
I mean, it'll be listened to. It'll be streamed. I don't know. Thug fans to spend money. I don't know of a tour that Thug has ever headlined nationwide. I don't know of. Like, I haven't. I know he had the spider line, but I don't. I don't see it like that out outside of influencers, who's been given a couple pieces?
E
I see when you say that, you saying, like the clothes.
F
Yeah.
E
The hoodie did numbers in the ghetto. Everybody got this right of hoodie. Now, that part I wouldn't know. But they were really, really like. People like them, like, they're everywhere. But you're right, they could be played.
C
I haven't seen nothing that shows me he moves the needle like that.
A
I think Atlantic is just pushing niggas off the diving board and not really giving.
F
Whatever happens, Geronimo nigga, let's see who does.
A
Let's see what we got over here.
C
Sink or swim.
A
I think that's with all of them over there. I have nothing to back that. Just. But my knowledge of record labels, they ain't about to support shit. I think it's Atlantic. I think it's 300. And whatever. They going through this. Somebody's missing from these Young Thug sessions.
C
What is this under.
A
Somebody's not there. That used to be there. You could be the biggest Young Thug fan in the world. This music don't sound like what you're accustomed to.
E
It don't.
C
It don't sound like they put nothing behind it.
A
And we gotta grade him on the curve. Cause he depressed. He depressed or he just happy to get his friends back. He just happy that fucking 21 is texting again. And he like. We can't even really judge the music. Cause he done been through so much.
E
Yeah.
A
So it's like this is just all around the board, just off. But hey, Atlantic. I mean, Atlantic and Atlanta will love it.
C
Yeah. I'm about to say the Thug fans. I know they're with the album, so. So if y' all are happy with it, then.
A
And y' all told me when I said that, hey, maybe some of that Gunner sauce could be used over there while we standing on our. He's a rat Moral. It's heat on them Gunna albums. That's all I'm saying. I know he's a rat. Y' all don't want to talk to him. He did the Alfred Pleasure. Hey, I would put the Alfred Plea to the side for a second and at least get a pack from him.
E
I would. When he says on a Big bank album, I don't got my twin with me. I don't got nobody in the studio. I thought he was talking about gunning for real.
A
I thought. I thought he was, too.
E
Okay, I'm making sure.
A
Who else was he talking about?
E
I don't know.
A
I think he was talking about Gunner because he then went into how. And I lost this person, not because they died, right? The same thing Cardi said on that verse on this song. She smoked that. I'm clear.
E
Out of jail. It was so good. It's so good. Like, rat schmat. He ain't telling me it's 20, 25. That's what it's about. He tell on me. Let's be real.
D
He ain't telling me. It's crazy.
E
I don't want to go off on a tangent, but, like, back in the day, I'm talking about our grandparents. You know, running around the streets might kill you for telling on them, right? Us as kids, you get beat up or at least want to take a picture with you, they don't want to be seen with you. It's taboo now A getting a picture, he just put somebody in the middle of him. The rat be here, it'd be two and the other and that same person. I don't deal with rats. It's people with rats. Especially if a rat got some money, you good, you safe in the hood, wherever. And the people at home. Because I said that some of us people's fake, man. Y' all could be fake, man. All you one look around. These rats are all mixed the fuck in. Every time I even had this conversation with somebody, and they. I don't fuck with rats. I literally say, no, you fuck with Boo Boo, Mookie. You know, like, everybody does it now. It's just not as stable as it used to be. And everybody's so money hungry. If a motherfucker buy you a pair of sneaks, you know what I mean? N call another nigga twin. You know, big bro, big bro, all that.
D
That's the fight we've been having up here a little bit. Cause some of us have been like, if you don't fuck with rats, you can't make music with them. You shouldn't be even having them on your record label. Or if you do keep a distance, Other people like, yo, this is a bit business. No, you know, I'm on the side of, you know, I mean, I don't want nothing to do with the person.
E
Right. Because ratting is a character flaw. Ratting is bigger than telling. The fact that you can have this relationship with a person and everything is good, but once the police come in that you'll turn on them. That's something wrong with you. Internally, the ratting is just showing it.
D
So the hottest artist in the world is a rat, and they offer you.
E
A feature if you live by that code. Fuck no.
D
You live by that code.
E
Me?
D
Yeah.
E
No, I'm not in the streets, okay? I'm not in the streets.
D
So if the world's biggest comedian was a rat and said, open for me, you'd be good with.
A
With it.
E
You right?
A
Well, how do you live by the code and be a rapper?
E
And that's the thing.
D
Maybe you can't.
A
That's the question I'm asking. I don't know.
E
You got to figure out a way you. They have to figure out a point where they. They turn it away from that. You know what I mean? You have to make a choice as a man or as a woman. Okay? I'm not about this life anymore. If you rapping and you still in the streets, then you going to still hold that code. The reason why that cold is not so prevalent to me because years ago when I started this, I decided I don't want to be in the street no more. So the coolest cold kind of gets it get blurred. It don't even look as important as it is to you when you living a different lifestyle. But at the end of the day, all y' all niggas at home talking about y' all don't fuck with rats. Yes, you do. Look around. Look at your. Look in your icloud from this past year. See how many pictures you took with that told on somebody. Please stop playing around. Everybody know rats. It's just. We just in a different day and time. You know what I mean?
A
That's it.
D
Yo, what's her name? I saw. I think this is, like, not official confirmation, but Nicki Minaj tweeted a picture of a CD and the date 327 26. 327 26. People saying that's a new album release. Interesting timing to release it now. But also, what do y' all think first? Do we care? Are you crazy?
C
Yes, we care.
B
Of course we care.
D
No, not about new album. About that tweet. Like, do you try? I guess what I'm asking is really, do you trust that mess? Do you believe it?
B
It's really weird to announce a release date six months ahead of time and.
E
Right after you sworn enemy drops like, why? Yeah, that's why people look at her like that, though. Cause she do shit like that.
A
Okay, you gonna try to get me out of my har. See? All right, let's see what's going on.
D
What do you say about that, Joe?
F
What do you think about that, Joe?
E
I'm potting, babe.
C
Talk to.
D
That's right.
E
I'm potting. And I'm in the mic.
A
You hear me clear?
E
I'm in.
A
I'm clear.
D
What do you think about that, Joseph?
A
About what?
D
What she just said. What she said, I need you to take a dance.
E
He ain't even hear it.
D
Don't play both sides. Don't just get by.
F
Don't be a.
A
What do you tell me what you said?
D
What you said? She. She said. That's why people. People don't with Nicki Minaj, because she does like that. And my question to you, Joe Button, is, what do you think about that?
A
People that have that take, it's understandably so. I can see. I can see how they got.
F
How they got there. See? Huh?
D
The man is learning too quickly.
A
Hey, you know what? Yeah. I'm announcing my album right in the middle or whatever that bitch doing.
D
The fuck are y' all talking?
A
Hold up for a second. Yeah, my mortal enemy. It looked like she's succeeding. It look like people paying attention to what she got going on.
E
Hold up, March.
A
Hey, I'm calling my engine in.
D
Hey, mix it. Is it mixed?
A
Have it mixed by March, March. And I'm going to Twitter and I'm letting you know. Hey, me, who just sold out all these arenas internationally and domestically. Me, who's still numero uno around here. In her brain. In her brain. She is in her brain.
C
No, she is.
D
She is.
E
She is.
C
It ain't just in her brain. She ain't been dethroned.
E
I hate that about.
C
I just put numbers on the board. My last album to prove my point.
A
Yes, I'm tweeting that my album is dropping. Sometimes these podcasters put out their opinions of things, and I want to go to Twitter and put the date my next podcast is dropping, but I don't. Cause I'm mature, I feel like.
E
And it's in Nicki defense, like, I can only. Couldn't even, like, try to put myself in that place to how she feels. Because to me, she wanted the hottest ever. And they always put her in a girl group. It's always like, oh, she better than this girl. But it's like, she one of the hottest ever. She already put that down. She's a Legend. And it's not. No. It shouldn't be a girl thing. And I know that probably annoys her, but you doing shit like that is like, why are we doing that?
A
And you know why I like it, too, dude. It now it we out here. It we. We out on the street naked again. You know why.
D
Why you keep saying we?
C
I don't know what the. He's talking about me.
D
Park said I say nothing. Flip A said nothing.
F
My on put me involved in that.
D
It's that couch, please.
A
This is why I like it, too. Cardi just told JT&B and them, hey, I'm gonna handle y' all on my project when I get ready to, not when y' all are ready for me, too. And that's what she did. So now Cardi comes out and maybe this is Nikki.
B
No maybe. Maybe.
A
So Nikki says.
B
I'll see you in March.
A
I'm gonna deal with you on my album. And I fully expect that to happen, but I don't think it'll be fired. I don't think we're gonna get fireworks from them, too. I think we're gonna just keep getting passive aggressive. Just. I don't with you. I don't with you. And that's okay in music, too. That part. Right.
D
I love that you don't keep wanting.
A
Anybody to be friends. Everybody hates each other. I've been saying it for as long as this podcast has existed. Nobody. I don't fuck with you.
D
I don't like you.
A
No, you can't come to Thanksgiving.
E
Hates each other, though.
A
No, a lot of these.
C
A lot of these things hate each other, actually.
D
Hate, hate.
B
Yeah.
C
It ain't just a dislike. It's I hate dislike. And it just be like I'm just waiting for them to just give me that. I hate you, but I don't want to jump first.
D
It be a lot of that.
E
This my question. Why didn't every. Why doesn't everybody respond to the disc when they hear that a person like that. This is Cardi B. This one album. Why does everybody drop a 16 something.
A
Grocery shop?
C
Because I'm lucky.
E
I can't rap. I would have dropped. This is for all the podcasters.
C
Look, to answer your question, though, they. They'll drop like, just like Cardi did. I heard the y' all was saying, okay, I'm going to drop when it works for me to drop. This is still a business.
F
Make it make sense.
C
I'm not giving out no free vert like I'm drop the disc over here.
E
Did it. Well, though. Yeah.
A
Again, way to go, young Thugs. Congrats on your album.
E
Congrats, Thug. We love you so much.
A
Have talked about everything.
C
You got like one or two songs.
E
Antidepressant. Don't be embarrassed to take Antidepressant.
B
I am gonna listen to it again at night. I feel like this is much better nighttime music than morning music, and maybe I'll feel a little differently, but probably not. It's cool. It's my review.
A
I've gotten too much lyrical miracle this year for me to be able to go back to whatever you doing on here.
C
See, I like that as the balance for me.
B
I usually don't, but I just.
A
It just.
C
I couldn't hear it this early in the morning, though.
A
I like it when it's good. I don't think this is him just at his best. It don't feel like.
E
It don't sound like.
A
Like Thug Doug at his best. This just sound like he going through something. So again, you got to grade it on the curve because you know what he going through.
B
Yeah, fair enough.
A
Is there anything else in music that needs our attention?
B
I mean, we got a Doja Cat album. It's a pop DOA Cat album. I skimmed through it. It's a pop album. It feels like a Sabrina Carpenter album with DOA Cat. And it is written by Jack. It produced. Written by Jack Antonoff, who does Sabrina Carpenter and all Taylor Swift and all the pop stars.
D
Yeah.
B
So I don't know how that guy ever sleeps. He does a lot of huge music. Salute. He did the Kendrick album like he does everything major.
D
It's not bad. This is a feature on it too. It's.
B
It's a lot of 80s pop kind of vibes.
E
Yes.
D
If you're into pop music, you're going to like it. Yes, you are. It's a. It's a solid album. But if you in for something else, don't. Don't manage your expectations. You're gonna be disappointed.
E
The.
B
Yeah, Mariah dropped the album. It kind of sounds like listening to or the. The audio equivalent of watching Pton Manning on the Broncos.
E
Parks. I need something else.
B
What's that? You don't get the football reference.
E
English. Yeah.
B
Her voice doesn't have the same power that it used to have.
F
No, play that. Let me.
E
You're a damn lie.
F
Serious.
A
You a goddamn lie.
B
I love Mariah Carey. This is.
D
Is.
B
I mean, I think this is a record that like.
D
This track.
B
I like the production, the songwriting, all that stuff. I don't think it was great for.
E
She almost Sounds different.
F
Okay.
B
Like, this is one in. In her prime. She would absolutely smoked.
A
Got it.
E
Don't sound like Mariah Carey, though, to me.
D
Yeah, right. And what's crazy is it's not bad.
A
Let it play at that volume. Let it play at that.
B
Okay, gotcha.
A
Let it play that volume for me. My wheels is turning right now. Let me hit a hook on this. I think I could be of some service.
E
I think you might be getting a little bit.
B
I hate that.
A
Okay, here we go. Turn it down a little bit. But I still want to be able to hear the beat. See, I think that this song is fire, is just a writing issue, like what I'm hearing. If I were Mariah Carey, it would go a little something like this. Tell me if this fixes things for the fans. Turn up a little bit. I wrote the Christmas song, so I own the Christmas miss Song, I think. I think you forgot.
B
Make my wish come true.
F
Yeah, yeah.
A
On the Christmas song.
C
And it's almost that time.
A
Holy. It's October.
F
You got get your gift.
A
Take your bullshit out of all you want.
F
You're right.
A
Does that fix it, though?
F
That puts it in Macy's parade. Halloween parade. They start at the Halloween parade playing that.
A
Wait, guess how the next song was done?
C
For sure.
B
For sure.
A
Yeah. They know who to not let on the Christmas song. Boy Paul said I would get a J.
E
She just sounds really different.
D
She does. Yeah.
F
Make my wish come true.
B
All I want for opening song, she's singing like I'm a bad and like that. Which, like, cool.
F
I get it.
C
But, like, because I own a Christmas.
E
Song, she sung the lyrics, I'm a bad.
B
Yeah. Something there.
E
I cannot imagine her saying.
D
Mariah has such a beautiful tone, historically and on what you just played, it just sounds different because they brought it down. Also, she's singing an active low. Yeah, for sure.
E
Sound like an Al.
F
Yeah.
D
It's not as strong, but she's still a great singer.
A
How long y' all want people to be able to sing?
B
Think that's a good question. We just talked about Stevie the other day.
F
Like, don't bring that up. That Stevie performance was Stevie disrespect, man.
E
I think he couldn't see the lyrics.
C
Stevie didn't know the words, man.
E
Know he couldn't see the lyrics.
C
That's like, what I'm telling somebody the song. Like, yo, you know.
E
I have a strong hate for people that put the camera in their face and they rap a song and they don't know the lyrics. I have a real hate for those kind of of people.
A
You laughing, they tearing your ass up too.
E
I hate a that don't know the word suicide. And then you'll do this, like just mumble it. Oh, my God. It's so weird.
F
Wait.
A
Another ugly voice.
D
Listen to you.
A
Wait.
F
Leave her alone.
A
Huh?
F
Leave her alone.
A
What? Who?
E
My voice.
F
Leave her alone.
A
I and Mona could be like, my.
E
Voice is so beautiful. And.
F
What'S the deep voice?
E
This voice lures them in from Queens. Cuz you know it.
A
I a glitch didn't come right.
C
Beautiful voice.
A
I used to be like. I used to be like all of you roll it down.
E
First of all, a lot of traumatic things back to me because I had a bad experience. Parks, do you want to hear it? They would call my house and they would say. They would say, hello, is Wanda available? And I would say, no, my mom's not here. And they would go, oh, is this her son? Oh, and it used to hurt me. I would yell back sometimes, no, it's her daughter.
B
And that help.
E
Feel me and that help. But at this point, at this big old age, I like my raspy voice. I have a great rap voice. If this write me raps, we going number one.
F
Go like this.
D
Go.
E
If you write my reps, I get a bbl. We can make some money. What's up?
A
Or halls.
D
Much easier solution. Yeah, let's try the first step.
E
I like my voice. I like my voice.
F
It's.
D
I love my too. You have a that's about to say you sound like Patty and Sel.
E
You sound like Mark Simpson a little bit. Yeah, but it's deep. It's raspy. It's like. Like I sent a voice note. I sent a voice note.
F
Excuse me.
E
To all the married people. Come over here and get this.
A
I will come.
E
That make you single.
A
I come get it don't matter.
E
Come on. Voice deep and all deep voice.
A
All right, let me come get the deep voice. She would be in the phone as.
E
That do the only time it back for. I'll tell that story later.
A
Yeah, you tell us later. We have a very. Oh, now it's all time for something. Time to pay some bills.
D
What's the that voicemail him up. You see?
A
Damn.
D
It's time for something.
F
Fix that ad right now.
D
What are we about to do?
F
Fix that ad.
D
I'm selling something.
F
Hold on.
E
This is my guy here.
F
Now it's time for our favorite part of the show fix the ad prize.
A
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D
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
D
This is such an unfortunate thing that Ish isn't here. Cause I know he had a lot to say about this situation. He had a lot of analysis when we first started talking about the NBA draft, but it seems that Ace Bailey has officially fired his agent.
A
Yeah.
D
My question is why now and why not three months ago? Like why do you do it now?
F
More knowledge, you learn more.
B
That little video went viral.
D
Yeah. Which one? The one with dude brushing the waves. You know, the ones that's been out for months. But, but again, for those that don't know Ace Bailey, the criticism of Ace Bailey's team is that they, they lowered his. The allegation is that they lowered his draft stock by keeping him away from certain teams, by not working out for certain teams, by seeming like he was only going to play for east coast teams, specifically D.C. he didn't want to play for Philly and I think New York was a team that he did want to play for. There were a few select teams he wanted to play for also.
A
Ace Bailey is a basketball player?
D
Yes. I'm sorry.
A
Yes, he's a basketball player. He went to Rutgers.
D
Yes.
A
I want to say he's the fifth pick in the NBA draft to the Utah Jazz. And there was a lot of talk around him getting rid of his sports agent who I want to say is from Jersey. Yeah, he's from Jersey. Right?
D
He's from Jersey.
A
Yeah. And Ish has some type of relation to him. So we would have loved for him to be here to get the inside scoop on this, but he is not. And because I know Ish, I will not give my real opinion on this one. Well, what do you guys think?
D
I'll give mine because I don't like to play both sides. I think that this. I think a couple things. One, Ace Bailey might be the greatest kid ever. I don't know anything about him. Everything I've heard about him is that he's a good kid. So this isn't about Ace Bailey. This is about sometimes having the right people around you to make the right decisions at the right time. And it looks like whatever his team did from draft day forward was just bad. It put him in a bad position. I think it's going to hurt his reputation in the short term. Is it surmountable? Yeah. But right now his team put him in a bad position. They may have done amazing things for him before he got drafted. And I've heard great things about his team. I've heard great things about how they support young players. I'm not coming for the whole team or even his agent in particular, but what I will say is they mishandled the situation very poorly. And I, and I've seen this multiple times. Remember when Ricky Williams got drafted back in the day in the NFL and he signed with Master P?
A
Yeah.
D
That contract, it was an incentive based deal entirely. Entirely incentive based on all of it. Yeah. As if no other agent had considered that before. There's a reason why you don't do all incentive based deals. And again, we've seen bad representation happen multiple times. And this guy, as I understand it, is not a registered agent in the league, which also was a flag for some people. So shout out to Ace Bailey for making a different decision and hopefully this decision allows him to correct course he's 19, so he has a whole future.
B
In front of him.
D
He can have an amazing career. But right now this is a bad choice. I mean, Joe, you're. You're in the music business obviously, and you've had representation before. Have you ever had those moments where the people that got you there couldn't get you any further? And you had to say, it's, it's.
A
Funny that you say that. I was sitting here thinking I have a little bit of empathy for Ace. One however good or not so good of a sports agent, Omar Cooper was, once the word is out about you, then that's what it is. Kinda, it's kind of a perception becomes a reality type thing 1, 2 from Ace's POV, it's tough sometimes to know when somebody has taken you as far as they are gonna take you.
D
Yeah, yeah.
A
Like, it's tough to be able to reconcile that. So to the people that say, I think it was you that just asked, why now? Shit, maybe that's why.
D
Right.
A
Like, he was seen just last week. Week. I mean, not last week, last month at Dyckman Court together. There's pictures of them too. So, I mean, they clearly were still somewhat close. But why now? Yeah, I think, yeah, it takes a while to reconcile.
F
Like I said earlier, Mark, knowledge, you learn more. You. You get more of an understanding. And you, when you go different places, people probably a lot of people been talking about. Wasn't it, Omar, Omar. You know, a lot of people been sharing their opinions on him. And I don't think Ace wanted to be looked at as that way based off of his representations.
D
That's a really good point that both of y' all are making because again, Omar could be the greatest agent ever for all I know. But if the perception is that he's not, that makes it. That makes it harder to navigate. Have you ever had to do that? Were you ready to cut bait, like, with, like revelations?
F
Yeah, I mean, it's hard. I mean, I know similar people. It's hard to make that decision. Especially when you, when you live by a certain code.
D
Yeah, right.
F
It's hard to. Even when somebody.
A
Right.
F
You live by loyalty.
D
Yeah.
A
You know, that's where the loyalty people come in.
F
And that's why, that's why I, that's why I agree with you on that. When you say, like I, I, I, I was always against what you were saying, but now I understand, as I progress, I understand we like, man, that lo. Because loyalty, that loyalty phrase, that word hold you back. It holds you back. It, it. It's an invisible tie that attaches two people, and no matter if you go five steps, they like two steps behind.
A
So. And that loyalty should be in perpetuity.
C
Oh, just.
A
And I don't, I don't want none of my contracts in perpetuity. No way on earth. Yeah. I want to be able to wake up one day and. And assess differently without being strapped to what I thought the night before. In music, what helps with this is for the artists that have a hard time. What helps is you managers can manage for the next 80 years.
E
Years.
A
That's a good point. The artist can't.
E
Right? Yeah, that is a great point.
A
So I would assume that some of that does Exist in sports as well. You can be a sports agent for the rest of your life. I have this small window where I have to make the right decisions.
D
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
D
And. And that little.
A
That always made me feel better. About Fireman.
F
I had a question with that say about what?
A
Fireman?
D
Yeah. I had to fire my agent one time and I didn't want to because I felt like this is the person that got me my first TV job. And so I gotta stay with him forever. And it's like, well, if I get cold enough, he's gonna cut me. He's not doing it cause he loves me. He's doing it cause it's good business for him. And so once he gets as far as they go.
C
Let me ask you a question.
A
You know what else happens too? I'm sorry? Ice. You know what else happens too? As an artist and maybe sometimes as an athlete, like, you only know the relationship with your manager as it pertains to your. You. You always stuck in that bubble because that's the line of communication. You and your manager. You. You very rarely do you know what the rest of the managers in the business or the business think of your.
B
Manager until you get drafted to a team. And now you got a bunch of people that are probably your age, your contemporaries. There's like, yo, that's what's going on. I should go like this.
A
Same with lawyers, same with agents. All of that rings true.
D
Yep. That's how I found out.
C
Because back to the loyalty part part with artist that a manager, whatever that may have discovered you took you to this point or the first agent, like, the question becomes how much. How long do I got to repay this loyalty to you?
D
Right.
C
You get what I'm saying? Like, all right, cool. You roll with me for 10 years, however many years like, and you made.
D
A lot of money.
C
And at what point are we good? Where if I decide to leave, you don't feel away.
D
Yeah.
C
Like I repaid my debt to you.
B
All so you can still be friends.
C
But some people take that back.
A
Yeah, see, that's why I don't do that. Childhood friendship.
E
Yeah.
F
You can't let because just call you. I hate when you do that. And then I hear some about calling you and you looking out for. Stop it, please.
E
They say don't let your loyalty become slavery. But that's really true. Cuz when so you in a situation where you being loyal and the person is being loyal to you. But if you look at the big scheme of it, you know why that person's being loyal to you. You the ticket. Why the. Are you still that loyal to that person? And I feel like if. If you do have a relationship, because my experience on it is like, when you're in it, it's hard to see it. You know what I mean? So it's like everybody, like y' all said before, everybody around you can see it. But when you say if not now, when it. Like, why now? And my thing is like, if not now, then when? Because I'm gonna have to stick here stuck in it, or I'm make this decision and do it right now. You know what I mean?
F
Real quick, what did LeBron do for his friends?
D
Well, that's what I was about to. That's where I was about to go. Cause the other thing about this is a lot of times the people who are your childhood friends that become your managers, if you're a rapper or a dapper, the talent they've had and demonstrated is being your friend. It is very rare that the people around you happen to also be talented in the thing that you need them to do. LeBron is exceptional.
F
Jay Z too. Tata in there.
D
Yeah, exactly. But Jay Z also knew how to strategically place people. Got it. And to develop their talents.
A
That's what LeBron did.
D
That's what LeBron did. Right.
C
But also study up under him and learn the game.
D
Right. But Rich Paul is uniquely talented, and that's rare to have somebody who's that talented. My man, what's his name also in Dallas.
B
Maverick.
D
Maverick. Yeah.
B
I see how you.
D
I see how you got there, but yeah, Maverick, Yeah. Maverick Carter is also an incredibly talented person. That's rare. Usually your man's and them be your man's in them. And. And when you're an athlete and you get drafted at 18, 19 years old, you're talking about teenagers. How the do I know.
A
That's why I don't like using LeBron and Jay Z. And I hate the LeBron, whoever the outliers may be, because they're so exceptional. This is the worst advice there is that you could possibly give somebody. Normal people, not. Not.
B
Because when someone's that exceptional, it's them a lot of times.
C
What are you negotiating with LeBron?
A
Right, right.
D
Max, Deal, please.
F
Right, I see what you're saying.
D
Okay.
A
No, no, I'm not going to do that. Those brothers did have to go read and learn and speak to people and make the mistakes and bump they had and shout out to them for that circle and what they did. They are them niggas. Sometimes you bump into A crew where, hey, everybody's got a little bit of that nigga in us.
D
Yes.
A
And it manifests. We're gonna help it manifest together. That's not.
D
That's not typical. That's the rarest of rarest.
A
So in music, when it's time to get a lawyer, get a lawyer. When it's time to get a driver, get someone who knows the streets, knows the traffic, traffic, knows vehicles, has been doing the laws. The police. Get somebody that knows how to do that. Security.
C
Oh, that's the one right there.
E
I was. I was literally gonna ask you that, like, in the thought of. Cause I guess the thought of is like, I wanna bring these people with me. With me, it was always, I wanna trust who's around me. So why can't I just get this person to take a class and learn how to do this? Or get this person to, you know, like. And then I'll have a team. But it doesn't. It never works out that way. Security, like you said, that's the first one. You get your do something they don't.
C
Get the class to do.
E
X, Y in the corner while your security cousin is in the corner getting a number. Like, they just don't.
D
And not even that. All right?
A
You hired your friend that you trust and. And that person is getting you three. Three grand. When somebody that is qualified should be getting you 10 or 15. Right?
D
They may be doing their best again, they're just not good enough.
A
You out there slaving for the. For the. Whatever you think this fee is, right? You don't even understand that's the worst.
E
Advice to give somebody that they could get they people to learn and all that around them.
A
Don't hire your friends in roles that.
B
Don'T suit them unless they're.
E
Everybody's fired.
A
Like, unless they're accepted, especially not out the gate.
D
If your friend went to law school, maybe that's the perfect person.
E
I ain't got no law school friends.
D
That's what I'm saying. I'm with you.
B
But even with that, a lot of times, even that, sometimes it's like, I don't even want to bring you in. You rock over there, and I'm a rock.
D
I get that too.
A
I want my lawyer I'm hiring to know me as the person that's hiring this lawyer. I don't need me and you to have gone to Capitol Grill together when we grew up. I don't need you to have that.
D
For me real quick.
F
I just learned something like that. I want some.
D
He grew up Good, right?
E
Damn. I'm like Applebee's.
F
Hold on. I want somebody to be loyal.
E
Grow up. Capital grilling. I'm sorry. Flipping.
D
That was shocking, man. It's different.
E
Goddamn.
F
I want somebody to be loyal to the work instead of loyal to me. That's what I. I started to learn. If you loyal to the worker, you know what you're doing. You're you. You came here for a job. The friendship. Because you're dedicated to do your best at the job that you know how to do.
C
You know what those are.
F
So I prefer professionals. Yes.
D
That's what I learned a lot of time.
F
Watch your mouth. Well, say it while I'm talking. Say it while they talking.
D
You know, he said looking. Right?
A
That's what I was.
D
That's what I am looking for.
A
Oh, yeah. I thought I was finished anyway.
D
Yeah.
A
So y' all smoke that. A lot of real good points on that.
D
Yeah. Thank you.
A
A lot of really, really good job.
B
Best of luck to to.
F
I hate when try to switch up. Cuz who said want to give compliment camera on me. Want to give compliments. And right now.
C
Oh, good job.
F
Don't try to. You was doing that before. Don't stop the part to give compliments.
E
I like it.
A
I wasn't actively doing a chem test before either.
F
I watch this. I don't do it while I'm here. Kim test while I'm not here.
E
It's positive.
D
That's actually was the first recommendation. I got veto, though. I got veto.
A
Don't worry. I can't hear my new hire.
E
He's doing.
A
Hey, everybody be quiet. Hey, are y' all cool?
F
Yeah, sure. Let's. Let's hit a new high.
A
I can't hear my brand spanking. Come on now. Y' all know how this goes.
F
The other highest is coming around.
A
All of y' all is my favorite. When y' all first come in. Y' all, come on.
D
I don't like this game anymore.
F
This game.
D
We out flip. We riding.
E
Am I your favorite?
A
Yes. Right now.
E
Oh, my God.
D
For sure to serve.
F
Come home.
A
Oh, yeah. Surf your own.
E
So.
D
What you going have a short run?
E
He say still surf.
F
Come on.
A
Yes, he is right.
D
Keep it surf.
A
Gonna be my last. That's not true.
E
That's not even kind of job. Come on. That's yes immediately.
A
That's what I had to tell them. Hey, them little letters that you got to write to the judge.
E
Judge.
A
I wrote it because real. But did the judge wanted to know like what he was going to make too. I Had to do a few drafts. Yeah, I had to ask the track. Hold on. They might try to keep you to what you said in one of these papers. Down.
D
Binding Riot.
A
Oh, my God. Shout out to Freeway. Freeway.
C
Freeway.
A
What else needs our attention?
D
Well, speaking of. Oh, there's a couple things. NAS had a very successful week this week.
F
Queens.
B
Shout out to NAS.
E
Man.
F
Queens is getting a casino 5.5 billion makeover.
D
Break it down. I'm glad you know the story.
A
You keep making that mistake.
D
You did it again.
F
No, the committee voted in favor of NASA and the world Resort Casino 5.5 billion makeover. And they do. They threw shots at Jay Z in that. Yo, Jay, we got accepted. It's great, man. Shout out to nas. I think it's great. I think that.
B
What part of Queens, you know?
F
Rockaway Boulevard, South Ozone area.
B
Gotcha.
F
Yeah, that's where the casino is now. So they're gonna try to make it like Las Vegas, right? Like it's a big expansion that they're doing and it's gonna be. They try to make it the big. The. The world biggest casino. That's what they try do.
A
Yeah.
E
The world's biggest casino in Queens.
D
Yeah.
F
Watch your mouth. M. You know.
E
No, not like that.
D
Who the want of what?
A
Hey, it just.
E
I don't know. I can't. I couldn't picture it, but yeah. So how long do you think that's going to take? I can't picture the world's biggest casino in Queens. There's no shade.
F
First it was the Aqueduct, though.
D
It was.
F
It was a racetrack. It was a horse racetrack.
E
I bought my first piece of jewelry at the Coliseum. Shout out to Queens.
A
But why you didn't just go first piece of little crack, Broad street or somewhere. Where y' all don't.
E
First of all, we go to Jewelers.
D
Row in Philadelphia is exactly. The real diamond jewelers in Sin City.
F
You said Jers or jewelers.
E
Jewelers. Where we get our jewel, our jewels from? Thank you.
D
No, jewels from Broad street, man.
E
Come on.
D
I don't know.
F
Yeah, we don't know. We from New York. We go to. I'm like, eric, we with the Benny's.
A
Some from out there. Hey, wait, where's the big clock?
D
Was it 13th for Locust?
F
They on his ass, too.
D
Oh, my God.
F
Was it 13th and locust where you met the girls?
D
Okay, we'll talk about it later. We'll talk about it later. Anyway.
F
Trick you up.
D
No, no. I was just curious. The casino is. Is that in terms of where it's located? A good. A better location in your mind than Time Square was for the other casino. Cuz I just don't know the geography.
A
A lot easier to get past.
F
Which one?
B
It's probably easier to get past in Queens and Time Square.
D
Yes.
F
Yes.
B
There's going to be less fight over there.
D
And.
F
And it's more convenient. It's just more convenient for people. And it's a. It's a great location. I mean, a lot of people went there when it was the racetrack, when it was the Aqueduct back in the day. So, you know, that's been going for a while.
E
The racetrack.
F
The racetrack's been gone.
A
Yeah. The story here is the clip running around of them shooting. Them shooting at hov, which I understand, but I don't understand. I understand because there's been the online theory that HOV has been stepping on NAS projects for years. Right, Right.
D
I put this. You talk about. We don't.
A
We don't know if HOV has been purposely doing that.
C
Okay.
A
That's why it's a theory.
C
Coincidence.
A
Yeah. Circumstantial.
C
All right.
A
There we go. I do. I. I don't understand, though, because Queens and Time Square are two totally different things. Agree.
C
Majority of folk ain't get that far to realize it was in Queens. They just saw Nas got the casino and HOV didn't get the casino. That's why it's a big deal.
D
That's why he.
A
But I don't think that Nas.
D
That's why he did it. They made it seem like Nas got the casino in the spot that Hove was fighting. Right. That's how the headlines were reading on the Internet, which is ridiculous.
A
Well, why. This is a big deal. I think that HOV wasn't. That. Times Square Casino wasn't the only casino that was rejected that week in New York. There were three other casinos. So people thought that. All right. You just can't get a casino nowhere in New York City. So there's quite a queen theory proves that to be incorrect.
D
Right.
A
I mean, not theory, but what happened.
D
Proves that to be wrong.
A
So I guess that is a really big deal. Shout out to Queens. But like Flip said, they already had all that. Queens already had all that.
F
Yeah, yeah.
A
I mean, we all gamble at the. Y', all.
D
We got a casino. It's a casino. Club is Boulevard.
A
Do they have left, right, center?
E
What he said was, I just bought.
C
A. Yo, I just bought that last.
A
What they got Casino.
F
What type of rugs y' all got?
D
He'll catch that later.
E
Okay.
D
Yeah.
E
I let it Go. I was just going to make sure people got it.
D
Yeah. Sometime you let. I let him slide like the will. Yeah. I got you that Willie Tyler Lester thing.
E
Last Mark jabs till a day or two later.
A
Mark is good at that.
F
No, but he slips it in and.
A
He mask it with.
F
He slips it in the mask.
E
Smile, little evil grin.
C
Let flip finish.
F
He slips it in the mask with kindness.
E
See his little horny corn's growing. Last week, when we talked about saying pause, we never said pause again after that.
F
Yeah, I'm proud of y', all, man.
A
I'm done pausing.
D
Growth. Good.
C
I'm proud of y'.
D
All. Too late.
B
I thought we were done.
D
I want to live my truth.
C
I'm proud.
A
I'm ready, man.
D
Exactly.
F
Playing around saying that. You, you, you, you stop that. What? He don't be on 13 and Lotus. Same.
D
Don't play around.
A
Yeah, neither. Don't play with me like that neither.
F
He don't be on 43rd. 43rd.
A
ETH.
F
Neither.
D
I don't know what that is.
E
On the street down 13th street, it's little rainbow flags on the street sign and let you know. This is Gay Bill and you welcome.
D
Okay. Yeah. Well, shout out to Thirst, Even Locust.
E
All the girls just getting off now. Let's see. See you.
F
You at work.
D
You don't see them big.
F
You at work.
E
They got off. It's night shift. I see y'.
A
All. Where were we? I don't remember.
C
We talking about the casino.
D
We talking about the casino.
A
All right. Congrats, Nas. Congrats, congrats, congrats.
D
So I see in the news the CEO of Live Nation, Michael Rapinoe.
A
Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
D
Made a very surprising, not surprising, annoying statement to me, basically saying that concerts are underpriced.
A
Really?
D
Yeah. I'm gonna pull the exact quote. But he basically said that concerts are not only underpriced, but have been for some time now. He said they're not expensive enough. Is the exact quote.
B
I believe I have the clip.
E
And said something wasn't expensive enough. Read the room, baby.
F
I see where you got this. You be buying body. He know. He's searching it in real time like he got it sand. But he. It's like he got his points in his mind. I'll snuff you. Don't try to body that. Looking at your phone. I don't like that.
D
No, I just. I just press.
B
We got a clip. We got a clip.
F
Me, too.
D
I got this quirky thing I do. I read before the show, figure out the stories, then we talk about them. I already know what we're talking about. Got you.
F
Okay. You.
D
For you, music is a better business, though.
E
Thank you.
D
Selling tickets for sports, 100%.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
I mean, you know, I think music has been under appreciated. You know, I always joke sports, it's like a badge of honor to spend 70 grand for a Knicks courtside.
A
They beat me up if we charge 800 for Beyonce.
E
Right.
B
You know, so it's a real. It's a very under.
A
We have a lot of Runway left.
E
Right.
B
So when you read about the ticket prices going up, it's still. Average concert price is $72.
C
What?
A
I go to a Laker game for.
B
That, and there's 80 of them or whatever the hell. So the. The concert is under underpriced. Has been for a long time.
E
What?
A
All right, there you have it.
B
There you have it.
E
You gonna go see for $72?
C
Well, he wasn't saying front row. He was just saying the ticket, the average ticket. Some concerts, you can't get a ticket for $72.
B
I think that the difference here is, is what we are talking about. What most fans feel is the ability to get tickets is hard because of the bots and the resellers.
D
Yes, yes. That's a big part.
B
The face value of the tickets really don't be that expensive. But buying them is fucking impossible because of the bots and the resellers. So we have to pay 2, 300, 400, $500 for sometimes mediocre seats?
D
Yes, that's a big part of it. First, they're not over. The average person cannot afford to pay more for concerts than they are right now. That's the first thing. And to your point, the bots make that even more so. It becomes like an elitist thing. Going to a live concert is no longer like a every man, every woman experience. You have to be special to go to some of these concerts. I mean, we all went to see Kendrick kind of together, and I mean, we all had hookups and all that to get seats. But the people even sitting at the top, a lot of people told me that they had to use secondhand dealing for sure. Yeah. And they were spending 100, $200, $300 to see Kendrick and SZA to see Beyonce, to sit in the nosebleeds. To me, it's so tone deaf.
A
I'm taking my tickets.
D
I paid mine too, through stubborn.
A
I mean, I did have a hookup, but I paid.
D
Yeah, but you know, we were all sitting kind of in similar areas and I spent thousands to sit and I wasn't. I mean I was. I had good seats, but I wasn't the best seats. You can't afford to do that. And I think the average person should be able to get good seats especially if they wait in line or the first one on online at midnight. And even then, like you said, the bots and all the secondhand dealers are snatching everything.
E
Ain't even going to a show.
B
That's the real shop out here.
E
Like they be for real. For real.
D
Yeah.
E
This person not fitting into their budget a show. It just don't happen unless you have.
B
Like some of the perks. Like sometimes credit cards come with a perk where you get early releases. Yeah. Certain apps or something like that. But to me again, the real issue is the resellers because the actual concert tickets are to his point, fairly reasonable. Obviously if you want to sit front row, it's going to be expensive as. But why wouldn't it be?
D
Right.
B
72 average ticket is. I'm not saying everyone can afford that obviously, but I think that's a lot of people get.
D
But he's saying.
C
But everybody can't get access to that 72.
E
You can't call it underpriced.
D
It's. The word underpriced is bothering me because If I agree 72 is fine. If we. If we could get people access to the 72. But what is he talking about 140? You talking about doubling it? Tripping. I mean he's trying to compare it to basketball.
C
Yeah, that's where he lost me at.
A
Why so.
C
Because it's a badge of honor to pay 70 grand for the Knicks ticket. So basically you should be okay with like okay with paying a high price for a concert ticket. And I. I just disagree with it.
E
It's a bad job. People in that lane to have quick side.
C
It's not just that you're paying y'.
A
All saying so much. I. I can't figure out where everyone stands.
C
Hold on, let me just. Let me just.
B
I think are in fact underpriced if we're talking about actual. Just face value.
A
Okay.
D
I don't think so.
E
I don't.
D
I think they're rightly priced.
A
Well we knew you was gonna say that.
E
Yeah. I think they could be cheaper.
B
And my asterisk is. Is large. Like that's a very big ass. That's.
D
You got a bigish. I do, I do.
E
My grandma went to see Michael Jackson for $8.
A
Yeah.
C
But a slight loaf of bread was how much, then?
E
Maybe a dollar. I don't know.
A
I agree with him, but, I mean, I've been saying this for years.
E
I don't think that they're.
D
You think they're underpriced Dramatically.
A
Yes.
F
You said that last album. I remember.
D
Do you think that. Do you think that you being an artist and. And the fact that a lot of y' all make your money on the road has anything to do with that?
E
Yes.
A
Well, no, because I would advance his idea. I think that everything in music is underpriced. I've been saying that music, period, should be sold at a premium, and it's not. Yeah.
B
They buried the value of music with.
A
The streaming, so I feel the same way about the live concert. Anything music related is them stepping on our drugs.
E
I definitely agree with that, too.
A
So.
D
Album, too.
A
That's why I'm not mad at his basketball analysis. Because, yeah, it's the same exact venue. It's the Barclays, it's the Garden. For a premium act to hit one of these places, there shouldn't be that much space between the basketball number and an artist number.
B
Oh, I disagree with that. I don't think that concert tickets should be $70,000 or whatever. That's crazy.
A
I don't think that that's that crazy. But if there's somebody somewhere willing to pay $70,000 to see sit front row, I think that option should be available. When it's super bowl time, they cart out some section that the Star Tenders could have carted out there. And to sit there just for this game, they charge whatever the fuck they want to charge. Why can't we do it in music?
C
Why every time we talk about it.
A
In music, it's to be frowned upon?
D
My worry is that if you do.
E
That, I want to be on stage with the band. I'm sitting with the nigga with the sax.
A
Now you should also.
C
70 grand. I'm rapping.
E
What? Fuck. Give me the mic. Let me get this.
C
Yeah, I'm featured.
D
Yeah. I don't like that. Because if you pay that, if you kick that forward, then what's the second row cost? What's the third row cost? And then by the time you get.
A
To the Neil's bleeds, those people will never know what the guy that paid $70,000 is being offered or his experience. Those people would not know. I'm just saying that the option should exist in music. Maybe not 70, maybe we going crazy, but it should be higher than the. I agree with him. When it's $1,000 and $2,000. You see people having an absolute heart attack.
C
But that'd be the why one. That's not the whole venue, man. That thousand two thousand dollar ticket is for the person that wants to pay and can pay the thousand two thousand dollar ticket. Because everything that comes with that ticket.
A
That person should be back there somewhere.
C
That's premium.
A
That's for them that we should change.
C
And he's not complaining. But what I'm saying, that thousand two thousand dollar ticket, the person that pays for that is not complaining about that.
A
Right.
D
I'm worried about the nosebleeds.
C
You're talking about the regular person, not that's looking for the premium experience. I just want to go to the show.
A
I'm not talking about who's complaining, who's not. I'm only talking about what that gentleman said. And by what he's saying, them thousand dollar niggas, y' all would have to move now too. Sorry.
D
Yeah, sorry. I just don't care about them. I care about the average ticket.
A
Goal.
D
That stadium. When you go to a stadium and how many people at that scissor show or the scissor Kendrick show? 25,000.
F
More than that.
B
I forget.
D
Let's say 40,000. Okay, let's say 50,000. 45,000 to 50,000 are not sitting in the east elite seats.
A
Right.
D
Those are the people I'm worried about. Those are people who work every day that are saving up to go to two shows a year. And I think if we double the price of the ticket it down that didn't go to one show a year. Yeah, maybe. You know what I'm saying? Maybe. And, and so that's, that's what I worry about. That's the only person I agree with. You front row charge through the roof. If you, if you can trouble our seats, the seats we sit in, that's fine. I wouldn't love it, but I mean I would. That's just the price of the game. But it's for the average person who only gets to go to one show. That's why I'm worried about.
E
Imagine if it was both, the best of both worlds where it was that premium seat where you can pay for that experience. But always the nosebleeds were affordable. Affordable. Like I could live with that.
A
They could check the L. You also.
E
Can'T watch the show. You got to watch it on the big screen because you can't see the on stage at all. But still you're in the building.
A
Do they have Wi Fi?
E
I Don't go to a show.
D
You go to the overflow room like in church when you.
F
Oh, I don't want to go.
E
I don't want to go to a show if I can't see the stuff sweating. I just don't. And I was the type person, if I had bad tickets, I'm just gonna walk down there and keep acting like I'm in. I didn't know I was in the wrong seat. When say, can you move? You know what I mean? I'mma just play that game. If they don't got security maned in in the stands, we on that.
C
You know what you do? Let me tell you what you do when you in the venue.
E
And he really know cuz he a show.
C
Oh, for sure. You just open one of your little apps, you see what tickets is still available that wasn't sold them your seasoning. Now you're not in nobody's seat.
E
That's a great joint. Nice.
F
You always find a way to get.
A
Ice is a crackhead.
F
You always find a chicken.
C
I'm not y'.
A
All.
C
I'm still from the other side.
F
What's the other side?
A
What is the other side?
C
The side that's y' all not on. I'm still over there.
D
But how if.
A
What does that mean?
D
He's still g. Said he's still here. He's still. Dude. But how.
C
I ain't let go of all my ways, man. I'm getting there.
F
Even with some success. Even with more. More money in your pocket.
C
I don't do that now.
A
You don't near no hood.
C
We ain't got to. Come on.
F
That's a fact. You live in a beautiful, beautiful.
A
It's.
F
What are you in your lobby?
C
No lobby.
F
Oh, see, look.
D
Well, anyway, yeah, I think that the.
B
Artist should be able to charge what they want for the ticket. And if the fans don't show up, then that's on them.
E
Agree.
B
You know what I'm saying? Like, my biggest problem still is always gonna be the bots.
E
I have a question.
B
Just being able to get the fucking tickets is impossible.
A
Why? When it's probably the big boys that own the secondary markets that are using the bots.
C
No, they do.
A
Yeah.
C
It's like that's why they got the Rico.
B
But my problem with that is that the artists aren't getting that.
D
That chunk that. That I don't like. I. I don't like the idea though. The artists can charge what they want. I mean, that works for some artists, I guess some things. If you're Beyonce Yeah, or you're Kendrick, where. Where she could charge three times as much and fill the stadium. That just means that so many other fans that love you can't get access to it anymore. I'm not saying don't get what you deserve. I'm just saying there has to be a line somewhere. Cause some of these artists literally could charge anything and still fill the stadium. And I just don't want to see that again for the person who saves up to go to the show. I just see how much joy people get when they wear their Beyonce outfits and they do all that shit.
A
This is how our fucking big stars end up fucking having to perform at Derwin's bar mitzvah. That is how they end up taking these other gigs where Rihanna gotta have all the equipment flown in to Africa to perform at this nigga's 18th birthday party or some shit. We'd be like, how the hell's Rihanna doing out there? What do you think about, oh, we paid. He paid Rihanna $6 million for an hour. For an hour. Like, those opportunities exist for the people that they exist for is all I'm saying.
E
Yeah, can they get rid of the bots? Is it just like. Why can't it just.
C
They don't want to get rid of the bots because they own the box.
D
Yeah.
A
They're making too much money.
D
They make it too much money.
C
And again, like you said, artists charge what they want. Not to go in circles. Artists charge what they want. Now, I got to break the artists off of this. But if we buy them all up and then resell them at 17 times or whatever times the price, we can keep the money. We keep the money.
A
Yeah.
B
I can certainly hypothetically see a world in which they're doing exactly what Joe's doing, talking about and exactly what he's talking about anyway.
D
Yeah, maybe. You know what I'm saying? Speaking. Speaking of artists making money.
A
I know wha. I know at some of them shows I go to, I mean, we go tell the truth.
B
R. Just today.
D
Just today, you tell the truth.
F
Depends.
C
Somebody stealing money.
F
Juicy, right?
C
Juicy.
A
Cuz if. If I'm going be the only one telling the truth, then I won't do it.
C
No, let's tell the truth.
A
I never want to be the only one tell the truth. We going to tell the truth. Some of these shows that I go to, the people y' all are talking about out are, like, near me.
E
Oh, what are they near them? Who?
A
Some of these stink. Oh, you done paid. You done paid a certain amount for your ticket. You think they ushering you to some ill? Here goes some stink in a tank top. Wearing some beads and a Chris Brown tank top. All dancing near you right there. He got his fire stink home girl they talk about. Pardon me. No, no, no. How did you get here? Talk about feeling like Deborah Cox.
C
I shouldn't be.
A
Yo, you shouldn't be nowhere close right by me. Soon as my girl get up here come one of your stink ass comey friends taking her seat now I gotta talk to her. Move this. But it's cool. We supposed to just be fly with all concert goers. Yeah, I know.
E
Just get security next time, J. Stink.
C
Man might got money too.
E
Get security.
C
I know Stinkman got a bag.
D
Speak. Speaking of artists, I have been shocked to hear that David, who has been allegedly accused of a lot of awful things, his record sales are going through the roof right now. People are buying his music like crazy. Have y' all noticed this? Have you seen the numbers?
B
I've seen the numbers.
A
I've seen the memes.
C
They up like the that.
B
Oh, it went crazy.
D
It's crazy.
E
I think it's in support of him, cuz they saying he's not guilty.
A
That and I heard that little line, yo, it's somebody else named David that could sing, that had a Tesla.
F
It is.
E
People on the Internet believe in his innocence.
A
N. There's a story going around that's trying to pin this on a different David that sings.
E
Yeah, they trying to say a non famous.
A
Yeah. Hey. Hey, buddy. I am so surprised that they have not picked you up yet.
E
I can't believe it.
A
I'm super shocked.
E
I can't make sense of it.
D
He's so guilty. They ain't got to pick him up. They're watching him to see.
A
For real.
C
When we come, right?
D
But they watching him though. They try to see where he's going to see if they can pick up some more clues and get some more evidence or if he goes near any other bodies, you know what I mean? Like when you're. When you're that like hot and dangerous and guilty. Apparently. Allegedly. I don't know if he's guilty or not, but he sure looks guilty.
A
Looks bad.
D
He looks really guilty.
F
He broke the lease to his 20k a month home. Like with feds. Like, he just. He's trying to get away.
D
He's never seen a crew Trime drama.
B
Before and people are running out to listen to the music because it's the true crime. Yes, the true crime obsession.
C
I can see why, because people were saying he referenced Certain things in the song and the curiosity and people. Now I gotta go hear it.
D
I am hoping that that's the reason. I'm hoping it's not that they're supporting him. I'm hoping it's that they want to listen to Romantic Homicide, for example, which is a terrible song to have. When you kill your lover.
A
I hope it ain't the only one.
E
It's a couple.
A
It's a few of them to where? And he's got interviews where he's talking about having multiple personalities. One of them is evil, and it's a fantasy of his is for the evil person to be committing murders and leaving clues. And the same version of him trying to solve them.
D
Like he's a.
A
The breadcrumbs left in songs and interviews have people probably running this up.
D
Right.
F
Is this song any good? Is the music any good?
D
Yeah, he makes good music.
F
Oh, okay. Imani's.
D
I like his music.
F
Okay.
B
Oh, so you're one of the streams.
D
I haven't listened to one. No, I have listened to one.
B
Mark Lamont.
D
Yeah. Sue me now. Listen to music before he started killing people.
A
Who's your favorite murder artist?
D
Artist, murderer.
C
Gucci man.
D
Nice.
F
Freeze.
D
That's a good.
A
Oh, my God.
F
When you ask the question, guys, there's.
D
No answer that we could give that's gonna not get bleeped out. Let's just move on.
A
No, I want to hear the answer.
E
Thank you.
A
That is your favorite artist, murderer, super cat.
E
I don't even feel right. Right. Saying it. I'm not saying that. I bump into that in the street sometimes. I was going to say Spado. Oh, Spado Corp. SPO did time for that murder. Spado, y'.
C
All.
D
I know you talking.
C
When it come to Philly boy, major figures.
E
Sp.
D
I know exactly.
A
We know you know every time you gonna say it. We know.
D
We know. Damn.
F
Flag. New flag.
E
This for the listeners. This just packed my wig.
F
He tried to straighten it for you. He trying to straighten it for you, Mama. He tried to fix that.
E
All that other cool. That wig patent got to stop. Like that could have slid off. It wasn't the right wig.
F
Joe, brush this shit. Give up brush. Yo, fix that shit.
A
Yeah, let's get that shit right.
F
Let's get that shit right. That up in the back back.
E
Gave me a little rottweiler. God damn, Joe.
D
You good. You good now.
F
Want to help people with their wigs. This is foul. Be right there. Up here. We all. We can't say nothing cuz of work. Morale. Oh, we can't say let's not save because of work and Ian watching and we gotta go to. We can't even keep it real with now you want to help Moan.
A
First of all, first, first of all. Excuse me, excuse me. And excuse me if you know, I tried to help. You know I tried to help too.
F
You did it in a mean way though.
A
Don't do that, don't do that. I always try to help. Don't even. Don't do me, don't do me.
E
Did y' all hear Mark this?
A
Mark laughed his way into a beverage.
F
Mark asked Juicy for her ginger ale. Juicy looked at the like, what? You can't just drink somebody ginger ale.
E
She thought it was mine.
A
Mark laughed his way to the front.
E
They found tickets on David's car. Like more tickets. And they was trying to figure out. They basically said that the tickets that they found, they think that the body was already in the car when they found the tickets. And first, first and foremost, rest in peace to her and she loves rest.
D
In peace to that young lady, to her family.
E
We not trying to of you know. But I read today that they found tickets on the car and people was trying to put it together because apparently they think the tickets got left on the car after the body was there. But then they start talking about why they didn't smell it. But it was that early that they couldn't smell it. But that's what I read today. There was more tickets cuz it was just sitting there. So you know, it probably got ticketed a lot cuz then it was impounded. So I'm guessing when they took it to the impound she was already in there but it was already ticketed. So people like yo, why didn't you. But how would you know if you can't smell it?
D
This is going to make at some point point the story. When this story unfolds, I don't even think the story of his guild or innocence is going to be interesting. It's going to be the backstory how you know all those other things. There's so many elements we don't know yet that I think are going to be scary.
A
But again, oh my gosh.
D
I keep saying this. I'm a big David fan.
A
I love his music.
C
I've been listening to his music for.
D
About four years now. But listening to his lyrics, after the.
F
Whole allegation of him killing his little.
A
Girl, you monetize the is sick monetizing.
E
They are telling us exactly how he.
C
Feels feels in this song.
D
And I just need y' all to listen to it real quick.
E
Hello.
B
I don't want to hear it. Damn it.
E
Sound good. Oh, I just needed a friend.
A
Now.
E
I share a bed with you and my tongue to succumb to the noise I'm not a little boy no more I made my stupid choices to my gosh Tell my mother that I'm sorry. Tell my father just the same, bro. Tell my sister that her brother might as well have gone insane Bro, this.
C
Is okay, hold on.
E
Straight jacket he got on and. Is that a straight jacket?
A
Clearly could hear. Hold on real quick.
D
Look.
F
Do I feel my mind?
D
She died and I didn't even cry. Not a single tear.
E
I killed you.
D
So it's not like the thought of.
E
Her is gone by itself.
F
Was something that she did.
D
It was something that I decided to do and I killed her in the.
F
Back of my mind.
D
It's really more of a figurative.
F
I killed you.
E
Especially in the back of mine. I try to stress that in the.
D
Back of my mind. That's why I say it's all out in the back of my mind.
A
Yeah, we know, big dog.
D
I killed you. So it's all in the mind because that's the.
F
The most secure place you can be.
D
Is in your mind. So if you can expel that thought from your mind, then everything else will just come together.
B
If he really did this, he's a sick puppy boy.
D
And this is what I talk about a lot of times. Again, I'm not. I'll just say this. Anybody who did this has severe mental health issues. And I don't know if throwing him in a cage for the rest of his life is the answer to that either.
B
Oh, no, I see.
E
This is the only answer we have.
A
Yeah. Don't start your.
D
No, no, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that he needs to be clearly confined. He needs secure confinement. I'm just saying he needs some mental health support, too. I'm saying that there's no way that he. This isn't a sane mind, is all I'm saying. Like, he needs to be maybe in a mental institution for the rest of.
B
His life if he is, in fact, guilty of this.
D
Yeah, this is all contingent on him being guilty. If he's not guilty. Free.
E
I'm curious at. I'm curious at how much stuff his mother and them ignored. You know what I mean? Because a lot of times people be seeing, you know, even with him writing stuff that's so dark. I'm just curious if somebody ever said, well, are you okay? Like, you know, because if you can go that far. Because that's the whole thing. The way he talking in his last interview, he's talking about keeping it his mind. But you couldn't keep it in your mind. Manifested some of that doing it in real life. I know. His people know. You know, when your baby up.
A
Do you believe. Do you believe that to be true for everyone that commits murder?
E
Not everyone that commits murder, but them.
D
Freaky people like that, where you're hearing the way he's talking, the way he's moving, it feels psychopathic or maybe sociopathic, I don't know.
E
Or multiple personalities.
D
Multiple personalities also. There just seems to be a lot of things going on. This is not like I just shot you on the street. Over, over, over. Beef.
A
Got it.
F
He should have had my mom. I ripped a picture and they sent me to speak to somebody.
A
Like, oh, you ripping pictures in the house?
B
Well, yeah.
D
What were the pictures of?
F
Like, this family. I don't know.
D
I was.
F
I ripped the picture. My mother had to go talk to somebody as a kid.
B
That's a song. That's a song.
F
Important family, right? My mother, my brother. I don't know.
D
You leaving out some key details?
E
Purposely leaving out that he ripped his brother out and then he took the piece of picture of his brother and stabbed it with.
F
No, no, no, no.
D
He bit the head off the dog. Some out.
F
I remember having to go talk to somebody about. They became concerned. It's like, all right, come on.
D
How long did you see? Talk to somebody.
A
How many.
D
I don't know. It was like all the childhood. Or was it just.
F
No, no, no, no, no.
A
Still. And they never caught it.
D
That's why I'm wondering.
F
They never caught what?
E
Whatever's wrong.
A
Whatever the problem was.
F
The problem is gone.
D
Oh, okay.
A
Thank God.
D
Yeah, yeah, thank God.
A
Yes. I can't believe that they got this nigga roaming free. They done picked me up for way less.
D
They done took me off the street.
A
When I told them the child support was sent.
D
It has to be that. I guarantee, if he's taking a shit right now, they can hear it. He couldn't go nowhere. Cause he was on an international tour. Which they canceled. Well, no, they canceled the national tour. The international tour is still set. I'm sure they're watching his passport. I'm sure they follow him everywhere. I guarantee you he can't go anywhere without surveillance.
E
When he come out his front door, it's a black car sitting there every day.
D
For sure. They just want. I'm telling you, they Just trying to collect more evidence to build a case. That's all it is. That's all it is.
F
Speaking about rest in peace, I worked.
A
On that bit that you stepped on.
D
Oh, I apologize. That's fine.
A
I worked on it for three days. I wanna hear the bit. Fuck that.
D
I hate stepping on the bit.
A
I'm sorry, the moan is gone. What you say, mon?
F
It was me that was talking.
A
Oh, you look like Mona. Everybody, Everybody look like Mona.
F
Yeah, I know.
D
All you see is Mona. That's it.
F
Speaking of recipes, I just want to say recipes to the 13 year old that was shot in Queens, Cambria Heights. Sanjay Samuel. You know what I'm saying? He lost his life. They say it's gang violence. I don't know what it is, but I drove past there the other day and I just want to say rest in peace and condolences to his family.
A
You don't know what is it is.
F
I don't know. I'm not, I'm not into gangs, but I'm just saying that's what they saying. They're saying it's gang violence.
A
400 episodes later, now you're not in the game.
F
Why you doing that, man? Why was Rest in peace to a kid that lost his life?
A
I know, but. And that is horrible. But as soon as they flashed his face on the news, they flashed homeboy that did it. A little 14 year old kid with, with a gun in his hand.
F
Yes.
A
So, I mean. And he shot him in the head, this kid.
E
They got it on camera.
F
Yes, they do.
E
Damn.
F
They do got it on camera.
A
Yes.
F
So it's just when you hear the parents talk about the children weighs different.
D
That's all.
A
For sure.
F
When I hear the mother talking about them, you know, it weighs different. I don't know anybody that know them.
A
Go ahead, go ahead.
D
Just one more rest in peace. I didn't know if you about to hit outstanding. That's why I didn't want to wait to you.
A
I'm queuing it up. I'm queuing it up.
D
There's. Since we're talking about rest in peace, of course it's in a really important moment to say rest in peace to Assata Shakur, one of the giants of the freedom struggle, the black freedom struggle here in the United States. She passed away of Thursday of this week in Cuba. For those that don't know, Assata Shakur was a former Black Panther, former member of the Black Liberation army, who was one of many people due to the COINTEL program, the cointelpro government counterintelligence program was surveilled, was railroaded. She was accused of a lot of things. Murder, bank robbery, kidnapping, et cetera. She beat three. She was acquitted three times. Three cases got dropped. But she was also tried and convicted in absentia for the murder of a New Jersey state trooper. The medical evidence proved that she did not do it. She actually was paralyzed in the arm that they said that she shot. Anyway, she was arrested. She was convicted. She was placed in. She was placed in a prison. She was the first woman to be placed in a men's prison in U.S. history. She was in Middlesex Prison. She was also in Clinton Correctional. And while there, she was tortured. In so many ways, Assata's a hero of mine. She's actually one of the people tattooed on me. And Assata stands as a figure of power and possibility for so many of us. Assata in 1984, was liberated by the Black Liberation Army. Now that she's passed, I feel a little bit more comfortable talking about what happened, but it's not my place to tell the whole story. But people broke in, freed her, including Sekou Odinga, who passed away earlier this year. My brother rest in peace to him. They freed her out of the prison, and she escaped to Cuba, where she received diplomatic immunity and has stayed in Cuba for the last four decades. Shout out to the Cuban government for protecting her and keeping her safe. Even though New Jersey attempted to. To bring her back many, many times, starting with Tom Ridge forward. They've had her on the FBI terrorist list for decades now. She's the first woman to be on there. But she stayed free. She's been a giant in hip hop. If some of y' all listen to Rebel Without a Pause, when you hear Chuck D say that he supports Chesimard, he's talking about Joanne Chesimard, who is Assata Shakur. When you hear a song for Assata on Like Water for Chocolate, Like Water for Chocolate, they're talking about Assada Sh. All the Black August events that we saw. When Black August hip hop went to Cuba that first time, that major trip, they visited Assata Shakur. Assata Shakur was a friend of Afainie Shakur.
E
Tupac, she's named after.
D
All right, sort of. And they're all part of it. That's a whole interesting conversation, too. We could talk about maybe later. But Tupac also referred her as Auntie Assata. Assata was a legend and a mentor and a resource to so many of us, although she remained here, hidden in Cuba, especially in the later years, she just stands tall and strong. And I'm grateful that she was able to live free.
E
Yes.
D
And die free.
E
Yeah.
D
So we say, always hands off Asada. Always free all political prisoners. Always love to Asada. So we want to send Rest in Peace as she returns to the ancestors.
F
Rest in peace.
E
Yeah. She's inspiring because she has the quote where she says, like, we basically got to stick together. All we have to lose is our chains. Like, yeah.
D
It is our duty to fight for our freedom. It is our duty to win. We must love and support each other. We have nothing to lose but our chains. But our chains.
F
You body that shit.
E
No, she really is like. And then the thing about. Because this year, they started putting in more effort to try to go get her.
D
This year, they were trying to extradite her again.
E
So the thought that she just passed away peacefully, it just feels better. You know what I mean?
D
There's nothing better than allowing her to die. Seeing her. That she died free. I wish she didn't die at 70. I wish she died at 180. But I'm grateful to see that Assata is dead. And also, she wrote one of the most important books, I think, that anybody should read. When we do our book club, one of the books we should read is Assata. For me, there's the Autobiography of Malcolm X and there's Asada. Those are the two books that changed my life. And I think anybody out there that is reading and trying to learn and understand anything about this world should read Assata's autobiography.
F
Thank you.
A
That was powerful.
B
That was great.
E
Yeah, you good.
D
That was powerful.
C
Good at that.
F
Now, if you diss anybody when they die, I'm gonna be mad. Cause you see how powerful that is. Had tears in his eyes. Go ahead. Jimmy Fallon. Mark was like this Mark. I got watery. I'm like, oh, he about to. He really want pot of the year.
D
He about to cry.
F
He me up. He made me sad.
E
She's a big deal.
F
I started thinking about my dead people. Like, oh, Mark, she is your dead people.
D
Thank you.
F
Girl, you.
D
Boom. That's it right there.
F
It's part of the same family. All right, listen, you gonna let that.
E
Get that off. You gonna just let him call me out my race? Yo, if that's the case, next is gonna be Imani. Me and Mini both like, are you.
F
Gonna check me for her?
E
Don't call me white boy.
A
Imani's one of them ricking. Like, my good arm would say that. Don't talk. Don't talk like that.
E
Melody after I am black. All black. I'm not mixed.
F
And we love you.
E
Both my parents black. But we gotta shout out to my black ass parents.
F
Yes. Shout up. Yeah.
E
Don't make me bring big wand up here.
F
Please don't. Please don't.
E
Telling you outstanding. I want you to get that book and read it. Cuz that's crazy that you don't know. That's your people. That's your people.
F
I know that's my people.
E
She fought for you to be able to walk up there on the street of Queens, get you a sandwich or concern. I understand you want to walk around, be free. And it's people like that. That's a real freedom fighter right there.
F
I'm just saying I love.
E
Let them take her down. The police.
F
Oh, oh, oh. Okay.
E
Coming straight from the underground.
F
Hey, Ian, it's over. Take us out to Emmy this year. Let's try 2027. You can't say that. Them the police.
E
Let me go.
F
Cause it's podcast.
D
They don't take serious.
E
It's like, come on, bro. As we need to have. That was like for real. That's a big.
A
You gotta ask if other is down for the cause too.
E
Nah, that.
C
They just volunteered us for the cause.
A
Nah.
E
And let me tell you something else.
F
Hey, let me not over. No.
E
That not only are we all down for the cause, Parks and Po gonna go to the front door because as the white guys, y' all gotta stand at the front line and take the bullets for us. Yo, yo, that's the part of the movement.
B
Bullets.
E
Like you stand at the door and say, the police. We gonna yell it from behind you.
B
No, I'm gonna say, excuse me, sir. There's nothing going on here.
C
That's right, Officer. Sir, you gotta.
F
We gotta find those dad down.
D
Okay.
F
I was only getting type. Thomas, we need a word.
A
We need. We need something.
F
We all.
E
We got that you can't just. We gotta resist. Yeah.
A
And Mark said.
F
You know what? Mark is funny.
A
Wait, I don't know if he was about to play song. I also have a rest in peace that I want to get to quickly. He bodied that and went and smoked it.
F
Yo, you smoked that, bro. And rest in peace. You made me listen. I'm gonna get that book, dope. I appreciate it. Thank you, man. But you.
A
Oh my.
F
You got to chill, girl. Hey, yo, Dave, what's a. From Break Beach. We understand now. Oh, we get it, we get it, we get why. We get why you. We get it, we get what did she say something up there about y'.
E
All he going to get a tweet.
F
We down with her, but we get it.
A
Now, while we are on the subject of freedom fighters, I did see the new Leonardo DiCaprio movie.
B
Oh.
A
Which if you don't know, is about. I'm pretty sure it's about freedom fighting.
D
Okay, okay, okay.
A
And Tiana Taylor.
D
I don't know about it.
B
And it's. The director is the dude that did There Will Be Blood and a bunch of other. I gotta get his name. Carry on.
A
Yeah, he's fired. But I did go see this movie.
C
One battle after another.
A
One battle after another. Three hours.
B
Call Thomas Anderson.
A
What's the name?
B
Paul Thomas Anderson, director.
A
Three hour movie. Or at least every bit of 2 hours and 45 minutes. It was a good flick. It was a good movie.
C
Walk out.
A
I did not walk out.
C
Did you fall asleep?
A
No, no, I was awake for the whole three hours of this movie. For me, a good rule of thumb is anytime Leonardo DiCaprio is in a three hour movie, it's probably gonna be really good. And it was really good. I'd like for any of y' all to go see it.
C
I'm gonna see it Monday.
A
Because I do have my conspiracy theories that pertain to Leonardo DiCaprio movies. Like, I feel like they were trying to tell us something in this movie.
C
All right, well, save it, because I'm gonna go see it Monday.
B
Yeah, I'll go see something in this movie twice.
D
Three hours, though.
B
It's a 245.
D
245 I could do. I want to go see it.
B
Killers.
E
I heard this Killers of the Flower.
B
Moon was three and change. Amazing.
A
Yeah, that was a great movie.
B
That was amazing.
F
Oppenheimer was long as well. And it was.
B
It was. Yeah, I was talking about Strictly Leo.
A
Movies, but no, it wasn't.
E
I heard that the chemistry between Tiana Taylor, like, the sexual chemistry was, like, good. Like, all those scenes were good.
A
Oh, well, when they started kissing. And that's not the first thing that came to my mind, like, their sexual chemistry. But Tiana was great. Tiana was great. Actually, everybody in that movie was great. It was All Star cast. All Star cast. So check it out if you get a minute.
B
I started Black Rabbit. I only did one episode, but I'm in off one. Off one.
A
I'm in.
D
I'm in.
B
Seems like a really good show. All right, have you finished yet? You seem like you've probably been binging.
A
I'm not finished. But once you get caught up a little bit, you start to get annoyed at the decision making in that show.
B
I thought that was kind of the point.
A
It must be the point. It would have to be the point.
B
They both seem like they don't make the greatest decisions off one episode.
A
Yeah. But they get really frustrating as it goes on.
B
I was frustrated with the fucking robbery shit at the beginning.
A
Yeah.
B
So I can see how that would be the case.
A
Yeah.
B
And I think that might be the point, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm gonna keep watching.
A
But it is a good show. Yeah.
B
And task is going crazy.
A
Yes.
B
Task is super duper fire.
A
Okay. Comedy in Saudi Arabia.
D
I'm gonna save it for the Patreon now. Okay. It flows better now. Yeah.
A
Got it, got it, got it. Let's see. Let's see. What else is important? Unimportant. Sylvia Robin steps down.
B
Oh, wow.
A
That's majorone steps down. That was a big thing that I forgot to report on last time we were here. Let me just find the details really quickly.
B
I don't remember where her last position was.
A
She was at Sony, I want to say. Okay, let's see. Here we go. Trailblazing music executive Sylvia Rohn, who became both the first woman and first black person to lead a major record company, is stepping down from her post as chairman and CEO of Epic Records.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Trailblazing music executive Sylvia Rohn, who became. As I step away from this role that has defined so much of my journey, I am filled with pride in the extraordinary tapestry we've created together. Roan wrote in a memo to her staff. Thank you for trusting me with your brilliance. Thank you for making every day feel like the first time music was invented. It thanks to Rob Stringer for his trust and camaraderie. Let's see. Sony Music Entertainment CEO Stringer said, today, I want to take a moment to reflect on the extraordinary career of Sylvia Ron. In an industry defined by his constant evolution, Sylvia has adapted and embraced change time and time again. Her journey is more than just a list of accomplishments. She is a trailblazing executive with a distinguished background and unwavering commitment to supporting artists.
C
Absolutely.
A
This is a big deal because all of the big dogs seem to be stepping aside or stepping down or. This is from Julie over there at Atlantic. Now, Sylvia, who, if you're around my age, all of the 90s and 2000s acts, you're familiar with Sylvia. It's a big deal.
B
It's a huge deal.
D
Is there a very clear new. Because she's in her 70s. I think she's 72, 73. Is there a new Generation of, like, black execs that are very clearly, like, taking over or is the. Is the landscape different now?
A
I wouldn't know. I'm far removed. I'm far moved. That's a great question, though. I'd love to know who they're putting in this leadership position. That hasn't been announced yet.
C
I don't think it's a new black.
F
I think it's a new wave of. Yo wave exists, but not sure. Not African American.
C
Yeah, I don't think so.
D
I don't.
C
I mean, the, the, the music is kind of reflecting that.
A
Yeah. Ron first partnered with Epic in 2012 on her imprint Vested in Culture. She was named president of the label in 2014, and in the wake of La Reid's exit, became chairman CEO in 2019. This is the note she wrote. Yeah, she just thanked everybody. Yeah, thanked everybody.
B
She was one of the greats.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
One of the greats of our generation.
A
Yeah. Let me hit the round of applause. Sylvia Rome, interested to see what. What she does next. When the big dogs step away. I never really have them just going to ride off into retirement somewhere to never be seen or heard from again.
B
Although in the 70s, maybe, but who knows?
C
Who knows?
A
Not Stevie Wonder. All right, let's see. What else is important? Important. What else is important? Unimportant. Mona, you want to talk about friendships?
E
I wanted to talk about mixing friends. I want to talk about when do you make the decision to bring your one friend group around the other friend group? Or do you ever do that? Like, do you ever mix friends?
B
Super. Depends on the friends. There's some friends that you. Not really for everybody.
E
Okay.
B
And there's some friends where it's like, oh, no, y' all will get along. Yeah, y' all will get along.
E
So do you, as you assess it and see who would like.
B
Absolutely.
C
You kind of have to.
B
Yeah.
D
So do some friends just not get the invite when you have like a kickback or a party or, or reception or whatever.
B
No, no major events. I think everyone is. It's fine. I'm talking about in a more intimate setting. Got you, like going to a club together, going to a bar together, going to eat together or something like that.
C
But you know, the friends that you can't bring to them places anyway, you know what I'm saying?
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
And it's like, I'm not going to bring you around. My cool friends that I might could take to these. When I say cool, you cool. You know how to act if we go somewhere, you know what I'M saying this right here. I can't bring you around here.
B
He might be trying to get in. He might get too drunk, you know, like. Or she.
C
This might be the way. One of my closest homies, but you just don't know how to act in certain situations.
A
I can't take you there.
E
What if you introduce your friend to the other friend, then they start hanging out without you? How do you take that?
D
I worry about that less.
E
That's happened to me before, but I wasn't the left eye one, so I.
D
Think it happens with women more.
E
Yeah, it definitely happens with us, for sure.
A
Just they care more.
E
Yeah. My best. My best friend. My best friend since I was like 18 and we had. It was another one. Like, I hung with her. She hung where we hung out together and realized that it's really stupid. Now we look back on it, but she would never roll up. We'd be smoking weed. She would never roll up. We go to the gas station. She never added gas. That was our first connection. Like, she's cheap, she's stingy. We ended up really, like, getting close and she just. She just didn't come along. You know what I mean? So I've had to happen. But it caused, like, drama.
C
But we girls, so I think it's a girl thing.
A
Yeah. Is it more of a.
E
So if you're two. If you meet. If you introduce your two guy friends and then they go watch the games without you, and the one got the $70,000 court size seat and he doesn't bring you. You don't give a. Please. Y' all love playing. Like, y' all don't get mad about stuff.
C
No, we get mad about stuff. I wouldn't give a About that. I'm not. Oh, why you didn't take me? Why you take him?
B
Oh, wait, no time. I'm going to get a little better.
E
Doing said friend.
A
Watch the game.
E
Y' all watch at the bar. Your other friend, once you introduce them, now he's taking him course.
A
Cut the TV on. Mark and ish. All at the game, smiling together, showing their teeth. Man, these.
C
And they have better seats than you get, right?
E
Yeah.
A
In Philly, though. So if you play Monopoly, then Other side of the Philly.
C
Other side of the board.
A
Philly. It's like Baltic. Wow. Mediterranean flip.
E
Do you mix your friends? Friends?
F
I'm the friend that they don't.
D
They.
F
That they don't want to miss.
E
I thought about that, but I ain't.
A
Gonna say it because I ain't taking the shade.
E
Like, they don't bring you to the stage.
F
But back in the day, now it doesn't matter. But before, yes, I was a friend that they didn't want to bring around. They wanted to keep me from the other friends.
A
You could come. Is there a hydrant outside?
D
Say it again.
F
I'm sorry.
A
Huh?
F
Is there a hydrant outside? To do what? To wash me down.
A
No, no. That's racist.
F
No, I thought you was cool. We just said recipes of soda. No, Watch your mouth.
A
Playing up here to tie you to the hydra.
F
Oh, I'm a dog.
D
It's only a little less racist.
A
That's racist.
E
I got a question, Flip.
F
Yes.
E
You refer to, like yourself in the past, Almost like you made this big change. Like, what did you like? What? What happened?
B
That's a great question.
D
That's a good question.
F
I didn't make a big change.
B
The world changed for you.
F
Yeah, I mean, well. And I talked about this in my anger management session yesterday. Today about how being up here.
D
Huh?
F
Say what?
D
It's a new video clip, right?
F
It didn't come out yet. I said, being up here. Watch your mouth, Mark. You supposed to be supportive.
D
I am supporting you. I'm supporting your anger management and your content.
F
I said. I said being. Shut the fuck up, Mark.
A
Totally perfect.
F
I said, being up here and dealing with people that has patience and believing. Teamwork make you put a mirror in front of your face. So when I would explode up here and that crazy and stop them niggas like, all right, at some point. At first it worked. At some point they're like, all right, let them finish. And then everybody would just look at you like, yo, you look dumb. You had to put a mirror and realize that you have to change and advance your way of thinking and not be so small minded. So when I talk about me in the past, I'm really not on that. And I've never been that privately, but I'm really not on that hype stuff or the stuff you see in the video that's not on.
B
You think you lash out for attention?
F
No, no. I lash out for a reason. But I'm saying that there's other ways to deal with the situation.
B
That's true.
E
Congratulations on your growth. I'm happy for you. Does it feel more peaceful? Do you feel better?
F
It's still some shit between me and this nigga. It's still some shit in my mind.
E
He clapped. He's happy for you.
F
No, baby.
E
Flip, think about.
F
I got goosebumps. This nigga can be tight.
E
I was so confused about when you said anger management. Then he said something. So that's like a content thing? No, I was thinking, like, you really went to see.
F
No, I really went to anger management, but I decided to film it.
B
He brought my.
D
Yeah, he's doing.
A
He's. He's been doing a lot better since the anger management classes. We'll see what October has in store.
F
Outstanding.
A
We'll see what the next month.
F
You better not kick me out.
A
No, I did it in other day. Like, how much flip making it. Wait, what?
E
He is crazy.
D
What?
A
Come on. Wait, he said that?
D
You lying.
A
But anyway.
F
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop. Why?
A
Huh?
F
Why?
A
Why what?
F
I don't deserve to make what I'm making.
A
I think you deserve to make more than that.
F
Okay, so why did you ask that?
A
I didn't know.
F
I don't understand. I don't understand the correlation.
A
There is. There is none.
F
Yo, tell me right now, nigga, or I pull you outside to have a beat. No, no, it's not.
A
No, no.
F
This crazy.
A
Don't be l me. I'm just feeding the narratives.
F
You did a good job at it. See, she can shout out to Mona. See, I'm gonna give you some love too. You came in here, man. You're a professional. You dope. You ain't try to play into any narrative. I think that's. I have a lot of respect for you. Like, I start to like you more and more.
E
I told you.
A
Have you been reading the comments? Love her. Yeah, she's a hit. If you've been reading.
F
I've read the comments.
E
I don't know because they said I was on my phone phone too much. I apologize about that. I have attention deficit.
F
I like that.
A
I watched that was your first episode. Some of these I have a disorder. Some of these forever. Can't put the phone.
E
But do they have disorders?
A
Yes.
D
Oh, well, yes.
A
That's the thing.
E
Oh, my God.
A
That's the thing they do.
F
Have you got who, bro? She's right. Who you talking about?
B
That would be a hippa violation.
A
One of the.
D
They hear.
F
You know you come back and hear that next episode tight.
E
Simon sent me this and I care.
F
N you talk about not here. I'm gripping.
A
Mark. Mark. Hit that at the top of the. Yo, y', all, I love you, bro. Real quick before we go any further, y', all, I made a mistake on. On the market.
D
I ain't make no mistake.
A
I'm missing.
F
I'm like, he did what a. How he do at the top of Patreon. What I said I Want to talk to the people. He squint his eyes. I got to say something real quick. Yo, yo, listen. I know, man.
E
He got the eye squint down. He do that.
F
Yo, you got to watch this.
E
Yo, that's the light skinned squint.
A
She must have caught that. The car in the way.
F
Not at the cr.
A
Right at the top of.
F
She got out the gym.
B
It's a non issue, cuz. That was six months ago.
A
That.
B
That was.
D
Yeah, yeah, she was.
A
Thank God.
D
It's just a misunderstanding.
E
The people and I will stay off my phone and I will keep my mouth on the mic for you guys. Whoa.
B
Oh, we're not pausing.
E
We're off that part.
A
You're right. My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. Let's see, let's see, let's see. Shout out to Kendrick in New Mexico. That was great. Let me get the round of applause for him. Huh? No.
C
Mexico. Mexico City.
A
Mexico.
B
Mexico.
A
New Mexico.
C
Mexico City.
A
That was a lie. That I just did. Mexico. Shout out to New Mexico. Shout out to Flo de Mayo. What up, Puerto Rico? Shout out, everybody. God damn it.
E
Puerto Rico. That's.
A
You're a jerk. Shout out to Kendrick wherever the he's.
B
Anybody. We should follow up. Anybody watch the Jimmy Kimmel comeback episode?
D
I did. It seemed like all. Everybody seemed to watch that. Looking at the numbers.
B
Crazy midnight or whatever it was.
A
Disney lost a billion dollars on this one.
F
That's crazy, Joe.
A
What you mean when they. When he wasn't coming back. Oh, they had to hurry up and bring him back. They lost a billion dollars. Billion. They lost a billion dollars. The money talks. Got to follow the money.
D
You do your.
F
You shot your whole load. Do your flip.
B
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
E
Some things you have to pause.
B
That was crazy.
A
I got keep some load to shoes. Come on, man.
D
You like that flip?
F
No, I'm just laughing.
A
I better cuz my girl examined. Why?
F
Oh my God. Why is it watery, yo yo? Yeah, why is it watery? I left one off earlier. Yo. I left one off in the bathroom to give you that work. Why you asking about the texture of my yo yo.
A
Thank you. What type of is that? No, these are psycho mine. Trigger Mine is a psycho. We don't have to mind your business.
B
Yes.
F
First of all, stop looking at the same.
A
You must not be into me no more. Look at the come. Wait.
B
I don't think they understand how come works.
A
I don't think they understand how life works.
B
Schedule packed?
A
Yeah. Oh my God.
D
Yo.
A
Oh, I love you, baby. Anyway, anywho, what'd you think of the.
B
Jimmy Kim McKimmel's company did great.
D
I thought it was a great episode. I watched his. His heartfelt apology. Some people only watched the apology, didn't watch the whole episode. They just wanted to see the monologue, see how he carried it. But I was glad to see the show do so well because I think it was a good like, act of resilience, you know what I mean? For everybody to say, look, look, you're about to lose a bunch of money cause of this free speech violation. We're gonna come back and stand for Jimmy Kimmel. Whether we like the show, don't like the show, whether we fans or not, we gonna watch this thing. I thought that that part was dope. His actual words. I thought he was more generous than he needed to be. Yeah, I got the point. He was trying to say, which was that I don't. I wasn't trying to attack this family. I wasn't trying to be harmful to his kids and his wife. I was making a political statement about this thing and not this other thing. I got friends on both sides of the aisle. That's where it kinda went off the rails a little bit for me. I didn't like that part. I wish he had just kept it on the other. On the other part. But overall, I thought it was a good courageous comeback. And if nothing else, he was. He was sincere. I didn't get it.
B
He almost cried.
D
Yeah, he choked up in tears and didn't seem like crocodile tears. It seemed very sincere. So I was glad to see it.
B
Yeah, for sure. This is the first episode I've watched of his in a long time, maybe ever.
A
Right.
D
I was gonna say I've seen some clips, but I don't really turn on tv anyway.
B
I thought it was good, it was safe, but it had a little bit of both bite to it. The whole episode. There's little. Little jabs I thought were solid. So congratulations.
A
Should he have apologized?
E
I think he had to.
B
I think he had to apologize to the family of Charlie Kirk just in case something was taken out of context. I understand that part. I don't think he apologized to like the president and shit like that.
D
I don't think he should is a strong word. I don't think he should have. I'll say this, he was very careful with his words. He said, if you interpreted me this way, yeah, I am sorry for that because that wasn't my intention.
C
But they also.
D
If you're going to apologize, I thought that that was about as good as you could do it. Because he's basically like, I ain't say this shit, but if I communicated this poorly, then I apologize for how I communicated it. Not for the sake at that level.
A
You need some variation of that.
C
Yeah, you gotta do it.
E
Yeah.
C
Do I think he did something that warranted a real apology?
D
Absolutely. Agree with me.
B
I agree with that.
C
And I understand you having to do it for the sake of, you know, this is corporate. This is bigger than just you saying something. This is corporate shit we talking now, so you gotta play the game. But I don't think he did anything that warranted an apology.
D
And that's why I like the words that he used. He didn't say I did. He didn't say that his sentiment or his beliefs were wrong. Which is what some people do. They cower and back up and say, I can't believe I said that. That's not the true. No, he's like, I said this thing. If it came off like I was saying this other thing, I wasn't. And I apologize for how I. Again, how I communicated that. But. And you're right, that's as good as you're going to get at that level because you got to do something. You can't show up there and not say anything. Yeah, but it doesn't look like nexstar or Sinclair stations are budging, so that means it's still 30% of his market is gone. They're gonna be showing local news for the next year and a half or whenever his contract is up. And I don't know what this means for his contract, but in a media landscape where they're already trying to get rid of late night shows, Colbert's gone. I don't. I mean, Fallon seems to be doing well. He may be the last man standing, but they don't really want to do this shit anymore. Networks, they don't want to invest in people anymore like that.
A
That's interesting to me. It is, yeah.
F
Cause I do see that there's a lot of people that still watch late night television. So are they gonna move it off of TV and just make it strictly an app and do it at the same time? Like, as far as.
D
Who do you know that watches late night tv?
F
Older people.
D
And I think that's the issue is that, you know, the coveted group on TV is still 25 to 54. And so as the people who watch TV move further and further from that demo, they don't care if our mothers and fathers, grandparents do.
F
You feel if they put a young popular person in the late night position. Do you feel like the viewers would tune in?
B
Yes.
E
No.
D
I'm not sure. I think we watch it on other things. I don't know if we'd watch it on linear. I just don't know if linear TV will ever.
B
I think linear TV is. I used to watch, I used to watch late night a lot, but then when the Trump first administration, all of it just became Trump jokes. And I don't like Trump either. But I was like, I was, I was fatigued. I don't want to hear this.
A
The right late night show on the right app or cable network. I could see people tuning in for sure. Yeah, Linear television, maybe the boat has.
D
The boat has passed and that's all I'm talking about. You'll still see daily shows, you'll still see all those things because the stakes are lower. You know, they don't. I mean, Jimmy Kim, Jimmy Kimmel's contract was huge relative to what other people are making. And the return is getting less and less as the advertisers move because again, the demo that watches it doesn't matter as much to advertisers anymore. You know, that's the tough spot for him. So we'll see what happens though.
B
I also think all these shows, these late night shows, they're very expensive, but I think they could be produced for much cheaper and released in a more profitable way via. Via YouTube or Patreon or wherever you choose to do it.
D
That's right. That's right.
C
But you do that again, you're older demo, they watch tv, right? They're the ones who look for this. You get what I'm saying? So the old Grandma ain't got YouTube like that.
B
I think there will always be one. At least on there or something.
E
There is the thought that they're going to die off. That's why they don't care about that demographic because they won't be here but.
D
For so long and they don't buy the products that the advertisers want to see.
E
Exactly. Yeah.
D
So that's the real issue. They don't care if they die tomorrow or next year or it's more that 25 to 54 is the ripe audience to buy car insurance, to buy, you know, these birth control. They do whatever the thing is they're selling. That's who they want. That's why at least on the news side of things, we don't, even when we talk about ratings, we don't care what your mass number. The mass number is ego to say 3 million people watched my show last night. It don't mean shit if only 200,000 watched it in the demo. That's more important. I'd rather have somebody with half a million viewers all in the demo than somebody with 10 million viewers and none in it. And none in the demo. Okay, yeah, it doesn't matter.
E
That makes sense.
A
Yeah. I'd love to do a late night TV show. Trying to think of how much money I would need to do that weekly.
E
This is very expensive. That's what you told me.
B
I don't think it has to be.
A
It doesn't have.
B
It's typically a monologue and some level of musical act, which sometimes has been. Historically, it's usually a band. But that, first of all, is not necessarily terribly expensive. It also could be a DJ or a guy playing the piano or something.
E
Like, I like the thought of back in the day when it was like new talent. So you might have a stand up going for five minutes. Like people broke stand up on those shows or where it's almost like not a talent competition, but it's people that are that new that you kind of like judging them whether you like them or not. I like the idea.
B
Carson was big for that.
E
Yeah. I just think it should always be an option for the people that don't party for something, you know what I mean? Because so it's almost like you're joining, leaning in on that party. The person is dressed up, it looks. The set looks like nice, you know, because everybody else in the street, you home, but you still feel like, you know, you did something else.
B
I got entertained.
D
Yeah.
E
Yeah.
A
The black QVC channel.
E
You remember the chat we had about late night television?
A
Mommy.
E
You just were saying it was expensive and that it would cost a whole lot to do that. And I was telling you how like the goal would be be if it would be just like what you all were saying before, where your new artist goes there with the album or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, you would build it up like that almost what those streamers are doing right now, where those labels are sending people. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah. I think with the right team, it could be done with the right people, the right people involved, the right personalities. I think Jesse Collins can get that done for the cheap with somebody just in terms of producing. Like, if he wanted to wrap his head around that, that there's a few more people I have in mind that could do something like that. Issa. Like there's people that could lend their brain to that and it would be A success.
B
I think you about it by the way.
A
Thank you.
B
Especially if you had with some of the political commentary jokes and.
A
Oh, great.
F
Now you gotta cut somebody just make.
D
Me the dead person correspondent like Jeromo.
A
Or that you probably can't tell. I keep trying to escape some of that radical shit that this guy's on.
F
He keeps bringing everybody new body though.
E
Flip be on there with you. Like, you know they got the little.
A
Small mark would smoke that the little small Latin guy.
D
I think we was smoking.
F
I think I about to get the.
D
Team that's been flip and I straight door you Parks.
E
What's the guy? The little Latin guy that used to be on the show with the guy.
F
I go on the competition suit on gu.
E
I can see Flip me of Joe's.
F
Guillermo n I go on the other side.
E
No shade.
A
I keep trying to escape him being Joe's. What'd you say?
D
Yo, me too.
F
Me too. Me too.
A
Now you I told. I asked Ian send it over.
F
Say whatever.
A
Send it over to.
F
Yeah, say whatever.
A
Wait. I was about to damn. I'd be thinking of jokes and then I forget them because y' all so funny.
D
Remember we friend.
F
I'm friends with the other side too. Remember I told you that.
A
What is the other side?
D
You'll see.
F
I tell the to you stop doing that. Stop acting like you kicking me off, man. They they stop acting like you kicking me off.
E
Are they coming looking for you?
F
You come on queen's flip. I give an adrenaline r some accountability.
A
And why they saying that too? They not saying it cuz of me. Take some accountability.
F
They that's a fact. I mean but Jo, you knew.
A
You knew. You know we keeping this game together forever.
E
But Joe, you do bitten World War I. You know what though?
F
Do you feel good about yourself to let your man just go through something and to watch, you know, even though you said the shit, you took the shit out. Cause I like to repeat shit just in case it come out later on you try to say it. So I like to beat you to the punch. But you should feel good about yourself for allowing me to go through what I was going through and fight right back out of it.
A
I do. Cause it was tough. I do. It was tough for real.
F
Visibly.
A
It just so happens that in this line of work, the right time to fire somebody is when they're going through a lot of turmoil in their purpose personal.
F
Damn, but you that's up, Joe.
C
That's the right time to fire someone.
E
That's what he said.
A
Normally. Because to do this job Great would be to the detriment of everything else.
E
What?
A
So if in your own life everything just starts going kaput, kaput, like, that would be wrong of me to now expect you to come in here and do the job to the best of your ability, which typically means it's time to fire you.
D
Or give them leave so they can recover better for themselves. Yeah, it's another possibility.
E
That's why you don't tell about your business part in silence.
A
Oh, you must wanna. All right. You got minutes on that phone. Oh, you got a grandma. Oh, my God.
F
Anyway, only they knew, though, Mark.
A
Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.
D
Is that Williams really on Ozempic?
B
He's on something.
D
Y' all don't think this is just eat, good eating?
B
Have you ever been to New Orleans.
A
Fair and you see what happened to him?
B
It's good eating, but it's not good eating for an athlete.
D
I don't think this thing. For those who don't know, Zion Williamson, plays for the New Orleans Pelicans, has put out a string of videos. And also people have seen him in his workouts, and he looks the healthiest and the most in shape that I've ever seen him look. I'm talking about high school, college, all of it. And it does prompt one to wonder if he is using some kind of supplement. And this isn't just exercise and diet. I don't know if it matters to y' all if it isn't.
A
I think he could do that naturally. Like, you would lose a lot of weight if everywhere you went, Mariah Mills was behind you, chasing you, trying to fucking get something, get some dick.
D
Hey, I got a baby.
A
Hey, whatever she's saying, getting a good jog, yo. Never ending a long walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I think he could do it naturally. But he does look good. He does. He does look good. It only took him seven years, but.
C
If it is the same, like, is that a problem?
D
Well, that was gonna be my question for athletes. I mean, I don't know the long term effects of Olympics, so I don't know if it's good for athletes or not.
A
But that would be a problem for me if I were the owner of the team or a trainer on the team or coach on the team.
C
If he got on the zimp for a little bit and jumped off and, like, looks how he looks now and he maintains by working out, eating and all that shit, that's a problem.
D
I just say.
C
Yeah, I'm saying But why? Why is it a problem?
A
Because if I were invested in him and I watched him not care about his weight and size for seven years, I would be looking for. I put all these clauses in his contract that were based around his weight. I would want to see him stabilize that. That without help. Because if he gets the help, then we're now reliant on the help. And my star number one pick and investment here is reliant on something.
B
And to Mark's point, we don't know what it may. Health effects may have on you.
A
Right. Like owner the team.
D
Yeah, you do.
B
If all of a sudden you can't.
D
If it's a three year. It depends on whether long term is 30 years or like next year.
A
Right.
F
Is his story a fall from grace him or he still has time?
A
Cory said no, no, he's got time.
F
He still has time. So did he come in starting? Cause I remember like he was number.
D
One picking the draft.
A
Huh?
D
He was number one picking the draft.
F
Because I remember Jabari Parker. When I met him, they said when he first played, when I interviewed him, they said that he was good. And then I never heard anything about him after.
D
No Jabari, Jabari. He got drafted and had some. A lot of. About Milwaukee. He had a lot of leg injuries.
F
Injury. Okay.
D
Injury prone career.
F
So with. With Zion now, like, did he come when he first came in? Did he body it? And then his personal.
B
He's also had a lot of health.
D
He's had a lot of interest from day one.
A
When he's on the court, he's an all star.
F
Yes, he is.
A
When he's healthy and on the court playing, he's an all star caliber player.
B
It's just rare that he is fully healthy.
D
Exactly. And the problem with him is so much of his game is athleticism, like freakish athleticism. And when you have that kind of weight issue, it affects your knees, it affects your back, it affects your feet. So there's a lot of. There's a lot of. Of long term concern about him, his ability to play at that level and in that style.
A
And if you have that weight issue and you're injured all the time now you're home with Mariah Mills.
F
He's not home with me. He. Don't mess with Mariah Mill. Stop it, man. It's Rose, man. Close Rose. He had two children.
D
Yeah.
A
Oh, your home girl. Yeah.
F
Rose.
A
Okay.
D
Okay.
F
That's who you live with. I'm just saying. But I know about the th.
A
Okay, that. Stop. That's. That'll stop Him.
F
Come on, man.
A
My friend, they live together.
F
She got lot.
D
You say that.
F
She got lots of. Put the beats with somebody should have.
A
Said that the first time. I would have Tuck this issue away anyway.
C
All right, Metro.
A
Yeah. While we're on. Congratulations.
C
Congratulations, Metro. Metro found not guilty in the sexual assault assault, rape case.
A
Yeah, he had.
B
I think he said in less than an hour he was able to.
E
This was a criminal thing, right? Or was it civil? Is he found not liable or not guilty? I think it's not liable.
A
Civil.
E
Oh, so, yeah, not liable. Okay. Yeah.
C
So, yes, congratulations to him for that one.
E
So I have a question. It was never no criminal charges with this situation. It was always just a civil thing. Okay. Well, yeah, congratulations to him.
C
And it brought up a question a lot of people asking, asking because, you know, what accusations do to a person and can do to a person's career. These things, like any type of recourse for the accuser when they found out there were no, There wasn't enough evidence for any of this.
E
Right.
C
But you can make an accusation, possibly ruin someone's career, and nothing happens.
E
No consequences.
C
Absolutely nothing happens afterwards. I think just go on about your life like, all right.
E
I think the fear for putting up something where it's like. Because I. I used to say that all the time. I would say, I have two sons, so it's like, I will always. And most of my friends are males. I would always say, like, if they have concrete proof that this person just pulled it out their ass, they should go to jail. Right. But the issue with that is, is that that could, like, push other victims for not telling. I think that's why that, that, that never gets any, like, gas on it.
A
Yeah.
E
You know what I mean? Because the whole victim blaming thing, that's the issue so many sexual assaults and rapes never get solved, never get. You know what I mean?
B
It's so hard to prove even if they're true.
D
Well, that's what I wanted to say. I don't want to assume anything about the details of this case. What we know is that the jury found what the jury said, the juror said when he left, at least the juror that was interviewed, was that there wasn't enough evidence there. It was just kind of a recollection with fuzzy dates and things like that sometimes. And I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent. I'm saying I don't want to jump to the fact that because the jury said that they didn't have enough evidence to find him liable means she Was lying.
E
Right.
A
How much time do you. Do you. Do you need for it to not be jumping when a man says, hey, I. I'm innocent. I didn't do that. I was clear to charges. How much time?
C
Like, let me give you an example. There was an accuser that accused Chris Brown of some last year, year before last, or something like that.
D
Yeah.
C
And he had the receipts, he was like, text messages and everything thing, which totally disproved that.
D
Yeah. That's a better example to me.
C
But nothing happened to her either, right?
D
Yeah.
C
That's the point that people keep bringing up where it's like, there are certain times where. I'm not saying every time, but there are certain times where it's like, okay, this is some. Some bullshit here.
E
Right.
C
Because I think there should be something. Because you also. I know we don't want to discourage victims from coming forward, but we should find a way to discourage false accusers from coming forward. And it is a very thin line to determine who's the victim and who's a false accuser.
E
That's the issue.
C
But if you can be proven to be a false accuser, there should be something to happen to you.
D
I agree. I think there should be accountability for anybody who lies on people. People lie. I just. Again, I'm just. I like that example much better because in this case, what I know of this, of this case, it wasn't like there was a smoking gun that proved that she was lying as much as it was, which I think is how the law should work, is your word against mine. And no one should go to jail or in this case, in a civil case, be found liable just because it's my word against yours. I do think that we need more evidence. I agree, but I don't want to assume that because the jury decided to believe him and it's noteworthy that this is a lower standard. Right. It's just a preponderance of it. It's not reasonable doubt beyond all reasonable doubt, which is an even stronger argument for him. But despite that, I don't want to. And I know you're not doing this. I don't want to frame it as she was lying. But in the case where the evidence is clear, I think there should be recourse. If it's legal recourse, I think that's important. And also civil recourse. Because if I have to get lawyers, there's harm that comes to me through the accusation that will never be recovered.
A
Correct.
D
Even if I'm found not guilty. Because if he's Found guilty. It's at the top of our story today. If he sound guilty, it's the top of our story. Him being found not guilty goes to the bottom of the news of the news wires.
A
Right?
D
The problem is.
C
And the accusation still stays.
D
And the accusation, accusation stays there. The problem is a lot of times in addition to the power imbalance, there's also money imbalance. So the person who accuses say Chris Brown. What can I get from that person? Right. Chris Brown has far more to lose than could ever be recovered if he's exculpated. And that's the challenge. Sometimes you can sue him all you.
A
Need community service or something. She go pick up some leaves like.
E
I had to go do or pay his court cost.
C
But what I seen they suing cuz they broke.
E
I seen a document, false accusation.
A
Let me be.
E
There's a documentary out right now where they follow these girls that were charged like they got. They accused some people they weren't found guilty and they basically charged them with whatever in their little small town. But when they looked back over it, they were wrong. So that's why they kind of tell the story like that. But I just, I think that that's the whole tug and pull because what other. What would be the other reason why nothing happens to you? Especially when you talk about. You could look at certain girls that have done that to more than one person or a person that is rich and is probably like Chris Brown where it's constantly happening. You know what I mean? Like you would think. But even when we watched the deposition with Cardi B and this girl's telling this cockamamie ass story that any of us, if we hear it don't sound right. Right. But you still, still can get that far up just chasing the check. You know what I mean? So I don't know, I think that's the only thing that holds it back. But it's such a. It's such a problem like that's such a big deal if you were getting that wrong. And especially being black. Cause they get it wrong so much in court with us. It's like are we really pushing for some. You know what I mean? For any other laws or any. You know what I mean? When they get us wrong all the time, they never hear us, you know, we always go to jail.
D
Speaking of going to jail.
A
No, I have his statement here. I think the things are important to read, at least some of them. It Metro says I'm grateful and thankful to God that I can finally put all of this nonsense behind me based off of how I treat others and represent myself. Never in a million years would I have thought I could be accused of such a disgusting and heinous act. Today I took a victory in court. But in reality, there's a long list of losses I stacked up this year. In this year long process of clear. In this year long process of clearing my name and reputation. I'm sure the very large amount of money, money and time wasted based off of someone else's greed coupled with the incalculable amount of money and opportunities that did not make it to me. Yeah. Or my team during this time. Metro Boomin is more than a stage name or family friend. Family friendly brand, but a superhero in the eyes of many children and adults around the world. I'm sure I don't have to put into any any more words on how devastating these four false claims may have been. Too many. Lastly, the trauma my family and I have endured during this dark period can never be forgiven. I legally adopted my youngest brother. All right, well, I don't need all of that. All of that. But you get, you get the point of what Metro's saying. Like congratulations to Metro. You win, but what do you win?
D
Right?
A
Right. No, you don't win.
B
You win.
C
You don't.
B
Less than you started at.
A
I lost time, I lost money. My reputation takes a hit. No matter what the verdict said.
E
He just lost his mom. Didn't he just lose his mom? That mean his mom passed without seeing that he want that. You know what I mean? He was. Yeah, cleared. That sucks.
A
Did this exist then?
D
This is that old.
E
She. When did she pass? Recently, right?
D
Recently, yeah.
A
She hasn't been for last year or something. That.
D
That's going along. Yes.
E
Longer than.
A
Yeah, okay.
D
Yeah, got it.
A
All right. Congratulations to Metro Boomin.
B
Yeah, for sure.
D
Speaking of legal problems.
A
Oh, go ahead.
C
Same thing.
D
This your man?
C
Your man Ray J said he's working with the feds to put a RICO on the Kardashians.
E
It sounds so funny.
D
That's my ice. Take it.
C
Wait, what?
D
Let me read his quote.
C
Yeah, please. It said it's going to be bigger than us.
E
Did he join?
A
Yeah, written up there somewhere.
D
It's right on top of Saudi Arabian comedy.
A
I'm going.
F
Why? We could talk about that decision. Why? We could talk about the Saudi Arabian comedy, Joe.
E
Why? Like put it on Patreon.
C
He going on Patreon?
F
No, but I wanted to. What, what was the movie?
C
Patreon.
A
I can't wait to hear it.
D
You know what we can take. We we can do it. Now. Let's, let's talk about. Ready?
A
Let's do the.
C
Ray J, give me the quote.
D
Okay.
F
You got a problem with zombies?
B
No.
F
Oh, me neither.
D
I, I, I do, but that's a different conversation.
A
Yo, can you. What's the safe word? What's the word?
D
We do.
A
No, we do Pop Tarts, nigga.
D
Pop Tarts.
F
Stop Bark the federal.
D
Rico, I'm about to drop on Chris and Kim is about to be crazy. Ray J said. I'm talking about. I'm on the news every day. I'mma say a lot of shit. Anybody that's cool with Kim, they need to tell her now. The feds is coming. There's nothing I can do about it. It's worse than Diddy.
A
Why do y' all do this? Like, why, why, why? Why are we doing this right now?
E
I don't know. I don't know.
A
Like, do y' all believe that Ray J believes this?
E
Yes, I believe anybody believes that. Ray J. If anybody believe Ray J believe it.
C
I think he believe it. Do I think it's gonna happen?
A
No.
C
But I do think he believes he can do something.
E
I was shocked when he exposed the whole thing, that she set the videos up. Ever since then, I listened to him with a different ear. I used to think, like, whatever he say is bullshit. But when he exposed all that, it just made me look at him a little different.
A
Well, no, slow down. I believe Ray J knows a lot of shit.
D
Yeah, me too. That's a fact. That's indisputable.
F
I agree what he does.
A
I think that aside, I don't think Ray J believes that he's working with the Fed. Feds to bring a RICO to this family that I still believe he loved. Like.
E
Oh, you think he love him still?
A
Hell yeah, he still love him.
C
I don't think that.
E
I don't think that either.
C
I don't think that.
E
I think he.
C
I do think he might. I do think he might have talked to the Feds if him to say it. He might have been like, yo, I know something.
E
Yeah, I think he.
C
Now, if anything comes from it. Maybe not.
A
But you think that based on what?
C
That he talked to them? I believe him.
E
That's what I believe what he's saying.
D
I think talking to the feds is such a broad and vague thing that he could have had one conversation with one person about something.
B
What RICO do you think exists in the Kardashian?
A
So many y' all know him.
D
I know him, yeah, a little bit.
E
I don't Know him like that.
D
Here's what I say. Ray J. Ray J is a showman. Ray J puts on a great show. He's a phenomenal entertainer. He knows how to work the cameras. He's learned reality tv. He knows how to keep himself in the headlines during the D trial. The fact he was all over Chris Cuomo show and all that stuff suggests that. But to your point, Joe, at some point sometimes you start to sell this stuff so much that you start to believe your own. Your own. So it wouldn't shock me if he's starting to believe the stories he's telling.
A
I don't have him there.
D
You don't have.
A
Okay, Ray J is just a car salesman, man.
C
So you think he's just talking scooter?
A
I feel like this just happened a few months ago where he did something crazy. What? How sexy Red was pregnant or some. He been saying nut.
D
Saying, like, I slept with so and so when he was just on a plane sitting next to him asleep.
A
He been saying saying nut for a few months now.
D
All right, well, you'll have to. You'll owe Ray J an apology if this comes out and the Kardashians come crumbling down.
E
Oh, my God.
B
I don't think that's gonna happen.
C
Yeah, I don't think that's happening.
A
I don't think what could happen to. To send the Kardashian empire crumbling?
E
Oh, please.
A
What could happen? What could we hear? What could we hear that y' all think? Oh, that'll do it.
B
I don't know.
C
I want to say something.
A
Look at y'. All. I want to say y.
C
Some.
D
I. I'm. I have answers to that, but I'm not saying I'm on air. I know too much stuff.
E
So much B. I want to see.
A
Oh, look where he draws the line. And what not saying the Kardashian empire. That's crazy.
D
Some things are sacred.
A
Oh, my Lord. All right, all right. Well, go, Ray J.
D
There we go. There we go.
A
Get them out of there. All right, what else, what else, what else? All right, we're doing Comedians in Saudi Arabia on Patreon.
D
I got. Let's talk basket.
F
Go Saudi Arabia. Come on, man.
D
What is your issue? Do you know the story?
F
I don't know the story, but I know that there's a lot of sports and things happening in Saudi Arabia.
D
Yes.
F
In fact, wwe, the ufc, golf.
D
You been invited to any of it? Yes. Would you go?
F
Should I not?
D
Am I fucking up your check right now?
F
Wait, no, no, no. Should I not go?
D
This is What?
F
I was invited.
D
So since we're here, I'll just say what the issue is. There is an all star comedy festival being headlined by a bunch of great comedians right now in Saudi Arabia. I initially brought the story up to bring Mona into the conversation more as a standup. I wanted to know her take, but it was announced in July. It's the Riyadh Comedy Festival. Kevin Hart. Aziz, answer.
A
Can you go into the movie? Mike?
D
Sorry. Kevin Hart, Aziz, Ansari, Hannibal Burris, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, Louis ck, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson. I could go on. Jeff Ross, Chris. And you know, there's a lot. Chris Tucker. I was about to say, just so people don't guess wrong.
E
Chris Tucker.
D
Yeah, there's a lot of. There's a lot of major comedians going there. There are also many major comedians who are very upset about that. Obviously. Marc Maron, who y' all know, y'.
A
All always be upset.
D
Shane Gillis, Zach woods, you know, they've launched a kind of counter campaign saying y' all are sellouts. This is awful. How could you do this?
B
What's awful about it?
A
Yeah.
D
Saudi Arabia is home to some of the worst human rights abuses in the world. I mean, imagine if they were all going to South Africa in 1986.
E
Right?
D
And what would you say? What would you say? Right? And so the question for me, I mean, y' all can. You can walk off the ladder. It's fine. You know what I mean?
A
You know, what topics do we not need to freedom fight against?
D
Well, that's why I wanted to tell the story so we can actually.
A
When do he take off his freedom fighter pajamas?
D
I haven't.
F
God damn it.
E
They don't come off, Joe.
D
Clearly, I'm like a Mormon. Keep my Jesus jammies on at all.
E
Times under his jeans.
A
But go ahead. F. I do want to hear what?
D
What? No, so. So the question, because, you know, what do you do when a place like Saudi Arabia, and I don't want to quite compare it to South Africa, I think that's too extreme. But I was just trying to make a comparison. When Saudi Arabia has some of the worst human rights abuses in the world.
A
Are they going to the show?
D
It's sponsored by the Saudi Arabian government.
A
No, I'm talking about the people that's on bullshit. Are they coming?
D
The government itself is on bullshit.
C
Do they perform in the United States?
A
Yeah, but when they laughing, they not gonna want it to. Well, I'm the whole.
C
Them same comedians. Do they perform in the United States?
D
They do, but I don't Think it's the same thing. I don't think it's the same thing. As fucked up as the US Government is, I don't think it's the same thing. I think if a comedian were performing in Israel, if a comedian were performing in, say, Uganda, if a comedian were performing in, I mean, I can name a few other places where human rights abuses are rampant. I think it's a fair question to say, what does it mean to go there? What does it mean to support? I think it's at least a question that we should ask. And no state is perfect, no government is perfect. So I don't think we have to wait for a perfect government to perform somewhere. But if the people. If women can't attend the show, for example.
E
Right, Okay.
D
I mean, we got to ask ourselves.
A
Good jokes off there. This is why. But this is why I kind of didn't. Don't like what you had to say in the first topic about ticket prices costing a certain amount.
D
Say more.
A
Because these people, whoever brought these people out here, I'm assuming, paid a bag just from the names that they paid the bag.
D
Billion. A billion dollars? Yeah.
A
A hundred x the bag. What these people's normal bag is they did. Back to my. That option should exist point. Right. But if, when you do that, then the very next thing we go to is gonna be, who are the people that you're performing in front of? Like, it's gonna make it a real slippery slope.
D
I agree. And all slopes are slippery in this way. We none of us have clean hands. Right. All of us workplaces do things that are complicated. And that's why I'm not even necessarily saying. What I'm saying is that we at least should raise the question when we make decisions about where we're going to work, about what are the moral stakes attached to it. And in the case of Saudi Arabia, it's not just the fucked up things happen in Saudi Arabia and we're going to Saudi Arabia. It's that you're going. You're being asked to go by the Saudi Arabian government. Effectively. That's what I'm saying is different.
A
Okay. Okay.
D
Do you get what I'm saying now?
A
If you were just going over there to perform for 100x your price, you wouldn't see a problem with that. But the government doing. It's like when Snoop went to dance for Trump.
D
That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm trying to say. Like an example you gave earlier where some guy, some African rich, African Billionaire oil tycoon is bringing, say, Rihanna come perform for my son. That's different.
A
You asking people to have a lot of discipline, Mark.
C
You're asking people to turn down a lot of money.
E
Money have a.
D
Like when you Morals.
A
Yeah. When you get in this bag like that. Your expectation of humans is high.
D
To me, I don't know if it's an expectation as much as it is an ask. I expect people to do up things, but the ask is that we don't. And I hope that somewhere, the tension between the ask and expectation, we can get a little bit of growth.
B
I was thinking about this yesterday, too. It's not necessarily a tough ask of human. It's a tough ask of successful people. I don't want to put any dollar amount in people's pockets, but I don't think that Kevin Hart, for instance, is hard up for bread. I think he could pass on certain gigs if he wanted to make. If he wanted to make a political statement.
A
I just this morning was thinking about. But he's a. I think he's a bread hole. So what. What are our expectations for niggas that hold themselves out for the bread? And I don't know that about Kevin Hart, but just as I was getting dressed, he popped up in the iPhone commercial. And I was like, nigga, you could say no to something, like share something. He just in everything. The chase, iPhone, all of the big wigs. He's in there like, move.
C
Hell no.
D
I ain't mad at him for that. Shout out to Kevin.
C
Let me ask you a question, Mark.
D
But I do have an issue with going to Saudi Arabia. I'm not surprised.
C
This ain't a gotcha. None of that.
D
Yeah.
C
Is there a number they could give you?
D
No, no at all. There's no number that could go to perform in Saudi Arabia.
F
I have another question. Do you think that Saudi Arabia is trying to. Because Saudi Arabia now is doing a lot of things.
A
Wait, hold up, Flip, hold up. Let's not let him do that that fast.
F
No, no, no, no.
C
I just respected it and let him go.
A
Let's go.
C
I respect it a little bit.
A
Let's at least throw some numbers out there first.
E
I believe it.
D
Yeah.
E
Word. I do.
D
Thank you.
A
I was going to write them on the board.
E
Throw the number out there. I believe it.
A
You don't believe it?
E
I believe that he would turn his run.
A
This Philly pride.
E
Philly, all jokes aside, Philly, the whole Philly thing.
A
$100 million for an hour.
E
No, no, don't start running them.
A
Speak Your wife.
D
There's other reasons why I wouldn't go to Saudi Arabia as well. So it's sort of.
A
Well, change it. Don't make it Saudi Arabia.
D
I've been. I've been a. A critic of Israel. I've supported the boycott divide system, sanctions movement for Israel for years. There's obviously a lot going on right now. There's no number Israel could give me that I would go perform.
E
Hell no.
D
I don't even fly. When I used to travel to Israel, I wouldn't even use the airport. I would spend an extra five hours, or if not 20 hours, depending on the day, flying through another country so I don't have to use the airport. Like, that's what I'm trying to say. Like, it. I have to have a moral consistency here. I'm not perfect. I make compromises all the time. I fucking have an iPhone. You could say, what about the kids in the Congo? And you wouldn't be wrong.
A
Wrong.
D
That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I do establish some standards.
C
You have some lines. That's just. I. I'm not saying I'm the end all, be all with everything, but with these. No. And that's human.
D
I mean, it's like your conversation about the B word. Yes.
E
You taking that money literally invalidates everything you've been doing for your whole career. And the. You've been talking. So that's what comes with that. Now you look like you full of Right.
D
Exactly right.
E
That's where the back to me is the money. My name means it has to mean something.
D
I don't want nobody.
E
No. Hell no.
D
No. Now, these comedians haven't made that. Haven't made that commitment. So I don't hold them to the same standard that I hold myself. But that's why our job as voices is either activists, podcasters, newscasters, whatever is to make them aware, so that then they have to make that same choice. Because until they're made aware, I can't. I can't be mad at Kevin Hart or Hannibal Burst. They might not know.
C
They might not even know.
D
And honestly, given all. All the sort of mystique and orientalism that goes on in this world where we start to sort of believe that the Middle east is the place to go. Everybody wants to go to Dubai, everybody wants to go to Qatar. Everybody wants to go to these places. I get why people might not know. It's a big deal. They think it's an honor to perform in front of Shakes and all that shit. I get it.
C
And they throwing money around like nothing.
D
But we got to make them know that.
F
Let me ask you a question. What do you think Saudi Arabia goal is? You know, they sponsored the boxing event between Canelo and Crawford. Like, the Prince was there. Like, Saudi Arabia is taking a lot of sports and a lot of acts over there.
C
Entertainment, all of that.
D
They wanted wrestling, too.
F
So what do you think that. What do you think their goal is? Cause there were a lot of wrestlers that wouldn't fly to CM Punk. Certain people, I mean, they end up going, but they wouldn't fly initially because of the human rights.
D
Yeah, they also kill journalists.
E
Yeah.
D
Jamal Khashoggi was killed at the Saudi Arabia embassy five years ago. Rest in peace to him, my colleague. I think the goal is. Part of it is private wealth to diversify, so it's not just oil. Part of it is normalizing and deodorizing what happens there. Yes, we kill a journalist, which should be an international human rights scare, but instead, Mohammed bin Salman, who's basically like the heir apparent to the King, he goes around the country on a public relations tour looking like the smooth, slick prince is down with all the boxing and the wrestling. So you cover it up by doing this. South Africa used to bring people. I remember when they brought. And I don't remember. I. I wasn't alive yet. But there was a time when they brought Aretha Franklin out to perform. Right. And people got mad at Aretha for kind of crossing a Jim Crow line. Basically, countries do this. And let me be clear, the United States does it, too. I'm not saying the United States is exempt. I'm just saying there are regimes that we should be mindful of, especially when the people who are oppressed are calling to us and saying, stand with us. Don't do this. I have to hear that and respond to some degree.
A
And what is your job? What does this job look like when you learn that these people don't. Some of these people don't give a fuck?
D
Then I can make a choice about whether I choose to support them anymore. Because a lot of these people don't care about the issue, but they care about how it looks. I mean, we have been trying to tell people not to perform in Israel for over a decade. Fifteen years with the BDS movement over that time, and no one says shit. But now that everything's happening in Gaza, you can't look away. And so now people are stopping because it's a bad look. Saying, I'm performing in Israel right now looks crazy. Five years ago, it didn't. So what we have to do is put a spotlight on the suffering so that we take the profit out of people's pain.
E
To add to that, I think that for the most part, they look at America's, like, dumb, like we're dippy and we don't know shit. So it's like automatic. What do we like? We like food. We like sports. So we're the most popular sports. And because literally, he just standing there, just. I mean, it's like, who the is that? So now googling, who is this Arab guy in the middle of the boxing ring?
C
They know what that does to people.
E
Next thing you know, it's cool. The goddamn costumes go up during Halloween. People want to dress like that. They know what they doing. And then we are perceived to be easily bought, just like they bought all them comics.
D
Got you.
E
It's the same thing. Would I go over there, honestly, if they.
D
If they called you right now and said, look, we got. I don't know what your rate is, but let's say it's 10 times your rate. Let's say it's 100 times your rate, which for some people, it was.
E
Was.
D
Some people said they got 300. One guy said. He told me he got. He told me it's off the record. He got 375 to perform. I don't know. I don't know.
E
Comedy rates 375. What?
D
Million 375, 000 to perform, I think 20 minutes.
E
You asking me, would I go for 375?
D
Yeah.
E
Let's cut to what we got, Nikki announcement.
D
Would it take what about 400, 100 bands?
E
Thousand dollars?
D
Yeah.
E
Me?
D
Yeah.
E
Never would I do that. Nope. Hell, no.
D
So I'm smelling 250 as your cutoff. At 250, you.
C
No, I'm gonna ask you the same, honey. But when the camera off and I want to get dancing, then let's talk later.
E
Okay? We'll be going into guys. So I can't pivot the new.
C
Yeah, now you pivot.
A
No, you can. His pivoting days are just about finished on his crazy on this broadcast audience. Don't y' all worry. I'm a new to this dog.
E
The first time.
A
This dog is getting.
D
The union gonna handle this.
E
Chris Tucker don't do stand up here like, Chris Tucker ain't working, is he?
A
Made him work.
E
They got that.
F
They're paying a lot of money.
E
Cube couldn't even get him to do Friday too.
F
And Saudi Arabia, they're playing a lot of money.
A
Call ID for that one. So what, Chris Tucker checked the call ID for that one?
E
No, back then I think he was saying he didn't curse or something. He was going a more Christian route.
D
Yeah. Shout out to Chris Tucker, my brother. He's a good dude, man.
F
Shout out to him.
D
He's a real good dude. Good spirit. Like I'm going to call him and be like, hey. Literally, like. Do you know what I'm saying? What's going on at this.
A
At this.
E
He's not gonna answer.
A
I think that's what should happen. You should call these people first from home on your mobile.
D
From untraceable.
A
From home. Your car.
F
Yeah, we don't want them to trace.
A
The IP where you spoke to Mel at in the car.
D
Mel Torme.
A
Wherever you. Wherever you have them talks. Do the work first and then let's come. I got a trick this topic board we're gonna start writing, adding the expound paragraph underneath. He keep tricking us. Comedy in Saudi rap. I'm thinking we got some goodies.
E
Like.
A
Comedy J coming.
F
That's what I thought.
D
That's what I thought.
C
He me up.
D
That's why I was trying to do it after the Assada Shakur freedom fight.
A
No, no. Do all of that with.
D
Do me hype.
F
I'm like, oh, that's a crazy. And you do that. You, you, you. Easy. Ease it in. You know. You had me hype. I'm like, oh, yeah. Kevin hard.
A
Oh, my.
F
Dave Chappelle fighting.
A
Yeah.
E
You got not to say these two.
A
That by the Sphinx.
D
Wow.
A
What?
D
I shared my pain, yo.
A
If I was in the cult, talk about a guy, I would not want to be at the bar with this.
D
They did tell me I was too serious in the yo, you.
F
Yeah, you. You too serious in the. But, yo, if you don't stand for. If you don't stand for something, you fall for anything. I don't think it's wrong. He stands for what he is.
A
Stand for it over there in your house on Night school.
F
You know who be on night School?
A
My people. Oh, my God. Anyway, no. I swore Death Comedy Jam was coming to Saudi Arabia.
D
It might be.
C
That just sounded lit.
B
It sounds like it is, actually.
A
Do they got a Four Seasons out there?
D
They do. They got Four Seasons. They got all the fancy tales they got.
A
You want to not go to. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I got to email Ian right now. Mark is done politicizing me.
D
Never.
A
And this podcast, Jesus, we're all better for it. Yeah, take that shit To y' all little secret Apollo meetings at midnight that y' all may be doing. You and Fat Joe and them.
D
They're not at the.
A
Hey, don't talk to me. Don't come up here and do this with me and y' all let Fat Joe in the meeting.
F
This.
D
I did not invite you.
A
You got a lot of nerve.
E
Silly man.
A
Take your ass out.
D
Stop. Stop.
A
All right, Come on. What else we got? What else we got? Holy.
D
I think we've done it.
F
We hit everything.
A
No. You could go. Get out of here.
D
I'm not asking him.
A
I'm not asking him.
D
Either you rap it or I got another topic.
A
Yeah, we cool. I think we did it. We did it. We did it. I think we did it.
F
Hey, yo, E. Oh my God.
E
We're done.
F
Dude. What's up, boy?
A
Mona, this is the part where don't act too happy. You order some food.
E
Omg. Listen, I don't know if y' all saw it right, but remember when I leaned up and was like, I'm hungry.
F
Girl, you was on Instacart. Girl, I was in your business on your phone.
A
You was lit Last episode.
E
I promise you. I promise you. That clip is everywhere. And I fully fought all day not to say it again because guess what, fellas? I'm hungry.
A
Well, how many meals you eat a day?
E
You know what I was gonna do? 5 small ones. Protein pack. You know what I was gonna do? I was gonna fry y' all chicken. I was gonna bring fried chicken, macaroni, cheese and yams my first day. But I thought that was kissing ass. And then when I got. I brought it to the make it next time to my friends and they was like, girl, don't walk in there with them bringing in no motherfuckers food.
B
Why?
D
Why, why?
E
They said that's not a good idea on my first day.
C
That was a great idea on your first day.
D
Well, now it's your third day, cook.
C
Yeah, so do it on your third day.
E
You know why I really wanted to do it? I just wanted to cook Mona. Cuz I can't cook my ass off.
D
We don't believe you.
C
You got. You got to prove it.
F
Who can. Who can co sign your cooking skills?
E
Juice? Can I cook?
D
That's a fair point.
E
Thank you. And the don't even eat chicken.
D
So Juicy has confirmed that Mona can cook. Corey has expressed skepticism that a light skinned person can make good food.
A
Can you make Mac and cheese? Let's try this again.
E
I was bringing.
A
It was right there.
C
I wasn't gonna do it right there, though.
B
I stayed away.
E
I was gonna bring baked macaroni. Parks. Cause you care. I was gonna bring baked macaroni and cheese, fried chicken. I cube cheese because it melts better with the cube. I want you to stick your fork in, get pockets of cheese. The shrimp, it. It just like smears together. But I was going to do baked macaroni and cheese, collard greens with turkey necks or garlic string beans with turkey neck. I don't eat pork and then. Or sweet potatoes. And fried chicken is really good.
A
What you're saying is you let someone talk you out of.
C
Well, well, how can we talk you back into that?
E
No, if y' all want, I do it.
C
No, we do want it.
E
No big deal.
D
So next week we going next Friday, I'll do it.
A
Yeah, we for sure want it.
F
Do get a Airbnb and do it out here. We don't want you driving with that all the way down, yo, you know. No, no, it's all wrong.
E
I was going. I was going to bake the macaroni and cheese here, cuz. Like, it only take like, probably like 50 minutes. Bake it here.
F
Do the chicken here too. Let me see it.
E
No, cuz, I don't know if y' all got all my stuff.
A
Okay.
E
You like I have to bring every little thing. That's too much work leftover.
A
I'm good with you sleep over here in Jersey.
F
He's right.
A
Don't be hitting the road for three hours like my nice and hot.
F
That shit going to be good.
A
All right. We do have. We do have a part of the show. Somebody needs our help, sir.
C
Let's go.
D
Let's go.
A
This person's name is. What's this nigga's name?
D
Sir.
B
Hey, sir.
A
It just says sir. All right.
C
What's happening?
E
Sir?
A
All right. Sir says. Am I the asshole?
B
Probably, yeah. If you ask.
C
I love these on Reddit.
A
Yeah. So recently I told someone that I've been friends with for a long time and consider as a brother that I am cool with not having a friendship right now. Here's an example of the situation. Say you have a girl. That's you. Wait, that must be a typo. Say you have a girl that you is your go to side chick when you was outside. What the fuck is this nigga saying? Say you have a girl.
C
Used to be.
A
Oh, that maybe. Yeah, that used to be your go to side chick or when you was outside. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, yeah, that works.
B
That false.
A
How would you handle the situation? If anyone from the JBP brought her to your party a couple of weeks ago, and that was the first time you found out that they were a thing. The inspiration. A friend slash brother of mine brought an on and off side piece to a function where he knew I would be at with my current girl, and I didn't know until I walked in.
B
Oh, that seems crazy.
A
Yeah, but he didn't.
C
Did he know that was your girl?
A
Was.
E
He had to. If he asking that way, he had.
A
To, hypothetically, to help help form a question for the broadcast. Am I the asshole for not wanting to be around my friend slash brother because of it? Would Keno kick it with Imani if Imani brought Edith to your birthday party while Kino was with his new girl? Not expecting Edith to be.
B
That's a little different, I think.
D
I love how they chose Imani and Keno, though, right?
A
They know to put Imani in any.
D
Which is not fair to mind.
A
Who is in the wrong.
E
That was so hard to read.
D
Also, Kino and Edith are a firmly established couple. That's not a side piece. That's not a. I mean, it's a bad example, but the devil's always in the details with this one for me. Like, it depends on if it's what did you know, when did you know it, and how tight are we? You know what I'm saying? Like, all those questions matter. Like, you can't answer it without that stuff.
C
If it's the old work, if your man's new, that. That was your old work. Like, you're on and off old work.
A
And he bringing her around.
C
That's where it's a little.
D
How long ago, though? Like, is it 10 years ago old work, or is it like last year?
E
He didn't say old work, y'.
D
All.
E
He said your. Your side piece. You're on and off. Like, your good go to, like, current.
D
So it's like you'll call her again. Oh, yes.
C
Oh, no, no.
A
He.
D
That's up there.
E
That's how you took it, right? He said you're on and off side piece. Somebody that you like your go to. That's the what exactly? Use your go to side piece. So that's the girl you still call somebody.
C
That's the one that you call. He's.
A
Oh, God.
D
Oh, Lord.
C
To answer your question, homie, you're not the. For not wanting to talk to him no more right now?
D
Nah.
A
Well, you the. For being unfaithful to your partner.
E
Yes.
D
Agree. You're an asshole for what he has.
E
Where'd you go to high school. Who wrote this for you? Your son.
A
And if you being unfaithful to your partner, then that means you're abiding by the rules of the streets. And if you're abiding by the rules of the streets and you with your girl at a function and your man unbeknownst to him, walking with a joint that is your on and off piece, then you and your girl supposed to keep it pee.
C
You supposed to keep it pee.
D
But is it unbeknownst to him? That's why I'm assuming he knew. I'm assuming the homie knew that that was his homie side.
C
I know that's your old.
D
If you don't know, you ain't did nothing wrong.
C
You got a girl now, you're not with her. Now I'm with her and now I bring her friend.
A
Brother of mine brought my on and off side piece to the function where he knew I would be at with my girl. And I didn't know until I.
D
The way he sound like he knew.
C
We had a joint. I say long, long, long time ago. Decades long time ago. One of the pool parties, he bought a. He had had one of my old.
A
Some leftovers.
C
No, no. On and off joint. He didn't even know, though.
F
Wait, I brought something?
C
Yeah, I. I told you this was the first. First pool party I told you. I was like, yo, that's.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
You didn't know.
A
Your whole legend grows every part. But.
C
But again, I'm not mad at him. He didn't even know that I was.
F
Oh, that's.
A
Yeah, but see, different dude say he.
D
Brought up where he knew I would be.
A
Okay, all right, listen. Let's assume that he knew that that's.
D
The dude, then that's up. There's no excuse in that.
C
And I know you going to be there with your joint.
E
Maybe him bringing her was his way to announce I'm taking her serious. I like her.
D
Then we got to have a conversation before that.
A
If you my brother.
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That ain't how I find out. You call me like, yo, I'm bringing shorty to the. To the spot. Me and her is getting serious. I just want you to know that. Cuz, if you tell me that knock out, nobody gives a.
C
It's shady the other way.
E
Yeah, it is. It's super shady the other way. It's shady enough to end a friendship.
C
And that's why I say he not.
D
The if you my brother ain't gonna end the friendship. But I gotta figure out why you did that.
B
I think that the time span does matter too, though. Because he said used to.
C
Yeah, but on and off like she. We could be off right now.
B
How was your ass?
E
Off.
D
And that's what I said. If it's 10 years ago, five years ago, last week, that's all different.
E
If he's still gonna have a hard dick and think about calling her, it don't matter how long ago.
D
Well, that might be somebody that's in the car. That ain't the dude standard.
C
That's his on and off. When he not with somebody, he calling her and dude know it.
A
I agree with what y' all are saying. For the most part, that's his go to.
B
Depends on how long on the back.
A
On the flip side of that, for me, I don't want. I'm not judging my friends for how they handle me when I'm handling myself.
D
Wrong.
A
Wrong.
E
Right.
A
I don't think that's right.
B
That's an interesting point.
F
That's an interesting point. Handling yourself wrong with me in the beginning.
E
Yeah. You wouldn't have to avoid.
B
If you move and fall anyway, then.
A
Yeah.
F
It'S still cold to move a file.
D
I agree with Corey, and I can't believe I'm saying that. I agree with Corey wholeheartedly on that.
A
That's the problem.
D
You agree with Corey, maybe. But let's say a person's moving foul. That's true. They shouldn't be moving foul. And you don't have a duty to protect in a certain way. But you're still my man.
F
True.
D
And doing something to me.
A
But in how I'm calculating it, that's not really your man.
D
Then that's a different issue.
A
Well, that's what he's asking.
D
No, he's asking if he's the asshole.
C
He's saying, is he the asshole for not fucking with him?
A
Is he the asshole for not fucking with him no more? Clearly he's not viewing him in the light of my brother. My brother, my brother.
D
Right. But I think he's wondering, see me. If he's asking if he's the asshole or not. Is my friend the asshole? He's saying, like, I think he's. I think he's. Am I wrong? Yeah, he's saying, am I wrong for feeling the way I feel about how this dude is moving or is my friend moving?
A
Right. It's too many words. Yes or no?
D
I already said I think dude is fucked up.
C
I said dude is fuck. To answer your question directly, no, you are not the asshole for feeling away and moving the way you moving towards your man. So you considered your brother? No.
A
You got a lot of feelings for the on off joint point.
C
He.
A
It's a lot of. It's a lot of feelings.
D
Cry tears for the Aussie side.
E
And if you got side more than they main. Oh, on picture be matching. Be madly in love with they side and dislike the main a little bit.
D
Oh, what. What is the conversation?
A
What's your role predominantly been?
E
It depends on what time my life. Part of my life we talking about. When I was a little younger, I was savage, though.
A
Where's the last time you been inside?
E
It been years. I'm old. I can't be quiet. When that call and all that. I don't got time for that. I can't hold it down no more. That called me. I'mma say he right here.
A
Talk to the.
E
Like, back in the day, I was. Oh, that's my brother. What we just get money? I would play that game now. As old as I am, I would really. He over here. Come get him. You made mom here? She at the door. Oh, yeah, I'm too old for that.
A
And that is always fun at the function when. When you could play the game. Figuring out how long it's gonna take your girl to figure out who you in here.
E
That's fun.
A
Hey, crazy. You don't know who she came you right? Hey, all my friends plus one, my joint. This could be like a masquerade ball in a minute. Oh, my God. Oh, now it's just fine.
D
All right, you got it.
A
Just you. You got it.
D
That's just you.
C
That was just you.
A
I didn't say it was me.
C
You said me. I'm talking about for him.
A
And that's way back in the day. That did used to be fun. Back in the day. Like my 30th birthday, we gonna bring some holes in here. Figure out how long it's gonna take my girl to figure out who's who. But she always. She always figured out these girls. Then it'd be a fight outside now you outside trying to be break some shit up in a suit. And now you're fighting on the way home. You can't believe your girl punched that bitch in the face. I don't remember that. I can't believe she did that. I tried to Google that bitch recently. Anyway. All right, I think that we've delivered the news in America. Israel, Saudi Arabia, Gaza, Cuba, Cuba, South Africa, South Africa, Aruba, Jamaica.
D
Don't forget New Mexico.
A
New Mexico.
B
New Mexico. Very important.
D
Yes.
A
I think we did it. Man, we did it.
D
We did it.
B
We did it big.
C
For sure.
B
We did it big.
A
We did it. I hate that. I'mma kick Mark's ass. I got a drink for him.
C
That's the way he said this.
A
I'm done with him.
C
Yo, Saudi comedy. Yo, just write Saudi comedy. Don't write nothing else.
A
Yeah. Nah, we need more or.
D
Nah, we need some details.
A
The more button.
D
Need some pictures.
A
For sure. Okay.
E
Need some pictures.
A
Oh, let's see. Let's end this bad boy. Word.
C
Get on the body.
A
Let's end this bad boy. We are done here.
E
This is my.
A
This is my song. I ain't gonna lie. And it's the song of most faithful black men.
E
This is my.
A
Hey, yeah. Y' all want me to put that young thug on? All right.
C
I don't care who this told. The owner.
A
I was supposed to give a. He ratted. Hey, hey. Oh. Put your little tongue in your mouth, girl.
F
That's my move. Put your little tongue in your mouth.
A
All right, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this show as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until next time, we bid you ado farewell. Adios are eva dirti. Hasta la vista, arvoiso. Long goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice, man. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as.
D
If it's all we have.
F
Here you go.
A
Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure to stay stagnant. Women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a ibuprofen. You might need it. What y' all doing this weekend, Mana? Hey, what y' all doing this weekend, man? Anything.
D
Anything. Anything.
E
I'm going to a 70s party tomorrow.
A
You gonna do the little tongue out move there.
E
Doing Studio 54. Looks. Yes. Tongue hour.
A
Oh, that means you spending the night in the bathroom. They. They ain't let you leave there. They let you just.
F
Working, man. Mark, you working.
A
I was talking.
D
I'm chilling this weekend.
A
Trying to.
D
Trying to rest, recover a little.
A
I wasn't done talking at the new.
F
Okay. Get your off. Get your off, champ.
C
Got that ch over.
D
Yeah.
A
Flip is working. What you do, Mark?
D
Chilling, resting, recovering.
A
Thank God.
F
Want a Mark crib for some turkey burgers?
D
You welcome.
A
Thank you. Freeze. What you want this weekend?
C
N. We chilling this weekend, man. Chilling, chilling.
A
Hey, all right.
B
I might be outside, man. I'm back.
F
Parks, you always outside. Y. I'm Not.
A
I've been in the house for the.
B
Last two weekends sick. I'm not sick no more. Yeah, I'm better. I'm better outside that.
A
Oh, no, I got a cockpit back. Parties made me so my girl left on a Wednesday. She know that's my girl night to go shake a tail feather. I had big plans and the streets ain't seen me in a little while, too. I was gonna go out and have a blast. Here go my son at six o'. Clock. Daddy, can we ride the scooters? He been asking me for weeks. I try to be a good dad. You know what, son? Come on, let's go. We ride some scooters, okay? My scooter's faster than yours, so I tried to go slow. Also, something on the handle was broke on mine. I didn't find out until we went. So I fell down, almost broke my foot, rolled over on the ground. Did you what my foot was. My foot is about to. You see me in his shits? My swollen still? Yeah.
C
Did you put it like big mama?
A
I put it up. I put ice on it anyway.
C
I need to go get that looked at me.
F
What's wrong with this?
A
I don't need to get something broken there.
E
Can you move it?
D
I got.
A
I can move it now. But there was a. There was a time when I was like. I could barely even walk in this. I say all that to say tonight. Got makeup. Wait a minute.
F
Hey, Little broke for.
A
They holding me down. My girl swear never.
E
I want to go.
A
Hey, you go in. All right, we going. Y' all hold it down, man. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity until next time. Oh, hold on. Let burn the boy. Get this off.
D
Hey, yeah.
A
See, young thug need a couple of the sexy slaps on his album, man. The. That like the sexy slaps. We. We went. We. We went to Gunner side.
E
I feel like Gunna is the best at making them songs that make you want to. Cause rap usually don't do that, but Gunna know how to do that.
A
Yes.
E
The other one on this album is again.
A
Yes. This album is hard. This album is hard. All right, man. Y' all hold it down till next time. Stay safe. Me.
B
Sinclair is putting Chippy Cable back on there.
A
I thought somebody would cave.
D
Yeah, that's dope.
A
Me. You got a little slap.
E
Boom.
A
We'll fold that up right now. You've never heard of Joe buddy?
E
They violating human rights. Whoop dee doo.
Date: September 27, 2025
Host: Joe Budden
Platform: The Joe Budden Network
Episode 864 of The Joe Budden Podcast, "The Broad Street Daily Journal," delivers another freewheeling session with Joe and his rotating crew of co-hosts. The episode blends hip-hop debates, album reviews, industry news, sports discussions, personal stories, and plenty of signature humor, all against the backdrop of the group’s Philly-versus-Jersey rivalry and the ever-present topic of loyalty. The major segments include a detailed Young Thug album review, debates on rap beefs (Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj), discussions on ticket pricing in the music industry, a deep dive into Saudi Arabian entertainment investments, and nuanced conversations about friendship, betrayal, and professional loyalty.
Memorable Quote:
“Don’t be mad at me, but Philly people stick together… If a fight break out, me and him, back to back, we got it.” — E (04:07)
Notable Quotes:
Quote:
"Ratting is a character flaw... The fact that you turn when the police come—something’s wrong with you." — E (48:30)
Quote:
"My worry is... the average person who only gets to go to one show. That's who I'm worried about." — D (91:45)
Quote:
“You’re asking people to turn down a lot of money…” — C (163:54)
"No number would make me go perform in Saudi Arabia." — D (165:15)
Maintains The Joe Budden Podcast’s trademark: candid, irreverent, smart-yet-silly. Unfiltered joy in inside jokes, regional pride, and challenging each other’s views. Tone balances insightful debates with rowdy banter.
Episode 864 delivers everything “JBP” fans expect: razor-sharp hip-hop critique, industry insider secrets, real talk on loyalty, lively debates on ethics, culture, and friendship, all layered with the spontaneous energy and authenticity that make the show a must-listen.