Episode 865 | "Titty F***ing Republicans"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast: Episode 865 | "Titty F***ing Republicans"

Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Joe Budden and co-hosts (Queens Flip, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, Ice, Parks, and others)
Network: The Joe Budden Network

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Episode Overview

This episode is a classic, high-energy group discussion blending random hijinks, music talk, cultural commentary, and biting humor. The crew dives into everything from Lululemon and lifestyle changes, Super Bowl halftime debates, hip hop (Jeezy, Young Thug), therapy in the Black community, viral streaming cyphers, the Nicki Minaj vs. Cardi B rivalry, Kanye's wild list of "betrayers," criminal justice hot takes, and pop culture moments – all delivered with their signature candidness.

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Key Sections

1. Podcast Setup, Lululemon, and Lifestyle Banter

[00:00–10:50]

• The crew riffs on some confusion in the studio, poking fun at each other about the missing and rearranged furniture.
• The group clown Flip for wearing Lululemon ("athleisure shapewear"), sparking a fun, meandering conversation about gym clothes, fitness, and how they got into the brand.
  • Marc: “Lululemon is Athleisure Shapewear.” [02:57]
• Flip discusses wanting to hire a live-in chef to support his health goals, while Parks and Joe tease more practical options, like meal prep or trying exercise first.

Notable Moment:
Joe jokes, “My girl wanted to have that conversation. I was being ignorant... I do what I want.” [09:28]

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2. Weekend Recaps, Micro-Updates, and Weather

[15:12–19:46]

• Routine crew check-in: cold weather, weekends spent chilling, auto mechanic mishaps, and health (Joe’s swollen foot).
• More friendly ribbing about their laid-back lifestyles and joking about generational Black avoidance of doctors.

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3. Bad Bunny Super Bowl Halftime Analysis

[20:00–32:50]

• The news that Bad Bunny is headlining the upcoming Super Bowl is met with enthusiasm (from some), apathy (from others), and nuanced cultural/political analysis.
• Marc details how Bad Bunny’s concert series brings major economic impact to Puerto Rico ($750 million) and celebrates his global popularity.
• The group discusses the inclusivity of Spanish-language music on such a huge stage and the online backlash from those wanting other (specifically Black) performers.
• Joe admits he’s “conflicted,” wanting Black artists but ultimately backs Bad Bunny.

Notable Quotes:

• Parks: “People just live in their bubbles. If I don’t know it, it ain’t popular.” [30:33]
• Marc: “There is no bigger artist. There is no more popular artist.” [30:33]

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4. Jeezy & DJ Drama "Still Snowing" Mixtape Review

[34:54–47:30]

• Streets are disappointed: the new project isn’t hitting the old Jeezy vibe, leaning more “grown” and “updated” but losing the classic “trap” energy.
• The crew sings along to samples and jokes about “love” for favorite artists, questioning if and how you age out of being a diehard fan.
• Ice is honest: “When music is bad, I’ll say it’s bad... my favorite artist can put out some bad…” [40:07]

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5. Young Thug’s New Album and Atlanta Unity

[47:54–57:56]

• Joe and Parks upgrade their review: the album is better than previously thought but suffers from poor sequencing and a slow start.
• Strong “melodic” tracks in the album’s second half get praised.
• The hosts reflect on Atlanta’s musical unity – like Thug and Lucci dropping records together – while also expressing nostalgia for the Thug-Gunna chemistry, which feels permanently broken.
  • Joe: “If you can forgive Lucci but not Gunna on civilian terms, that’s crazy.” [56:03]

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6. Black Men, Therapy, and Vulnerability

[61:08–75:39]

• Young Thug appears on the Pivot podcast expressing skepticism about therapy, especially his partner seeking help outside of him. The crew unpacks this mindset, linking it to generational trauma and stigma in Black communities.
• Marc schools the table: Therapy isn’t just “talking to someone” – it's a specific skill. Joe shares how therapy helped him and his partner sort through issues. Flip opens up about his own skepticism, rooted in broken trust as a child.
• Motivational rundown on why Black men must “hold a mirror up,” do the hard work, and not fear therapy – for themselves and their families.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe: “That’s not therapy. That’s just how you’re surviving out here.” [69:04]
• Marc: “Therapy is for people sick and tired of being sick and tired…willing to submit, to say: my way hasn't worked.” [74:11]

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7. Viral Freestyle: Kai Cenat’s MafiaThon, Ben The Don, Chris Patrick

[81:21–101:57]

• The hosts celebrate streamer Kai Cenat hitting a million subs, partly through marathon hip-hop freestyle collaborations with On the Radar.
• Chris Patrick (Jersey) and Ben the Don impress heavily – “He’s not a streamer, he’s a rapper!” [82:38] – shifting Joe’s view on streamer-turned-rappers.
• The conversation evolves into distinctions between “broadcaster,” “entertainer,” and “podcaster,” reflecting on the group’s own identities.

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8. Freestyle Spotlight: Don Q Goes Crazy, Ab-Soul’s Stumble

[95:32–106:43]

• Don Q catches props for a deadly “When I See U” freestyle – “They've killed people... and got away.” [95:02]
• Ab-Soul, however, blows his anticipated appearance on Kai Cenat’s stream, losing his place early. The crew breaks down why live freestyles are high-stakes and how embarrassing moments can impact a rapper’s attempts to gain new fans.
  • Parks: “For someone like him that uses a lot of pockets and tones… sometimes you need the simpler rhyme scheme for these.” [100:12]
• Empathy abounds; the crew credits Ab-Soul's overall talent and expects a comeback.

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9. Candid Sidebar: Kanye’s “Betrayers List” and Candace Owens Virality

[111:28–117:00]

• Kanye posts a wild list of “betrayers” (including Harriet Tubman, Donald Trump, his daughter North West, and... Curious George), sparking facepalms.
• Candace Owens goes viral for a suggestive video; the crew jokes about the objectification of conservative women and Republicans in their personal lives.

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10. Nicki Minaj vs. Cardi B: The Sales War & Personal Digs

[124:30–140:00]

• [Recap Segment Timestamp: ~124:30–140:00]
• The most heated topic of the episode: Nicki and Cardi’s chart battles, cryptic and not-so-cryptic tweets, and online messiness.
• Cardi tells Nicki to “compare yourself to Rihanna, Taylor, Drake...”—not her—and accuses her of underperforming relative to her class.
• The back-and-forth escalates to deeply personal attacks about family, infertility, and more, to the dismay of the hosts.
  • Joe: “Some of the things they’re slinging at each other... I want no part of. Takes away my excitement of them being adversaries.” [128:13]
• The crew debates chart numbers, peer groups, and why social media "hives" force fans to pick sides in a way the Jay-Z vs. Nas era did not.
  • Marc: “This new separatism, hive fighting, that’s all social media.” [136:27]
• Concludes: The real win would be a collaboration—if only!

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11. Legal Hot Takes: Diddy’s Possible Sentencing & Criminal Justice Ethics

[151:47–162:32]

• Marc breaks down Diddy’s legal woes: though convicted of prostitution-related charges, victim impact statements from Cassie (detailing abuse) could influence sentencing – with prosecutors seeking 11 years.
• The hosts discuss the ethics of sentencing based on uncharged conduct, worrying about fairness and precedent, especially for first-time offenders. Likely, Diddy gets “paperwork trick” time—long sentence mostly suspended with strict supervision.

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12. Rapid-Fire Topics & Wrap-Up

[165:07–199:32]

• NYC Politics: Eric Adams bows out, Andrew Cuomo maneuvers, Trump seen as pulling strings by rewarding opposition.
• EA Sports Sold: $55 billion sale to Jared Kushner and a Saudi group sparks debate about American corporate culture, selling out, and creative legacy.
• Baseball: The Mets collapse, the Yankees and Sox miss playoffs—Joe’s heart “goes out” to Mets fans.
• Fashion: Telfar x Timberland collab drops; mid-rise boot expected to be a hit with NYC women.
• TV/Movies: Praise for “One Battle After Another” (Leo DiCaprio), some shade for “Him” (Jordan Peele produced), endorsements for “Black Rabbit.”
• Parenting/Movie Lessons: Flip asks if they’ve ever “forced” their kid to watch a lesson-teaching film—Joe’s answer: no.
• Closing Banter: Playground talk, trampoline parks, and more group clowning as they sign off.

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Memorable Quotes

• Joe: “Therapy is for people sick and tired of being sick and tired…willing to submit, to say: my way hasn't worked.” [74:11]
• Marc: “There is no bigger artist. There is no more popular artist.” (on Bad Bunny) [30:33]
• Parks: “People just live in their bubbles. If I don’t know it, it ain’t popular.” [30:33]
• Ice: “When music is bad, I’ll say it’s bad... my favorite artist can put out some bad…” [40:07]
• Joe: “Forgiveness—my God is a forgiving God. If you can forgive Lucci, you can forgive Gunna!” [56:03]

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Timestamps Highlights

• 00:00–10:50: Lululemon, chef banter, lifestyle
• 20:00–32:50: Bad Bunny Super Bowl debate
• 34:54–47:30: Jeezy & DJ Drama project review
• 47:54–57:56: Young Thug album & Atlanta
• 61:08–75:39: Therapy talk in the Black community
• 81:21–101:57: Kai Cenat’s MafiaThon, viral freestyles
• 95:32–106:43: Don Q kills, Ab-Soul stumbles
• 111:28–117:00: Kanye's "betrayers" list, Candace Owens
• 124:30–140:00: Nicki vs. Cardi (sales, personal drama)
• 151:47–162:32: Diddy's sentence, law, and justice
• 165:07–199:32: Politics, business, baseball, fashion, pop culture

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Final Thoughts

Episode 865 is a showcase of classic Joe Budden Podcast energy: messy, honest, insightful, and hilarious. The crew covers culture, accountability, mental health, competition, music, law, and more. Listeners come away with the feeling of having hung out with their smartest, loudest, most entertaining friends—all while getting schooled on the nuances of the culture.

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. 1, 2, 1, 2 get your voices.

[B]

Right that's why you still right that means you My voice ain't gonna get right we good. This is what it is yeah Popping.

[A]

In the club gotta get right hey, let's get right we up in this piece Mike, Mike, Mike. What's up?

[C]

I just noticed there's no chair here.

[A]

Yeah, we. We removed the chair, Joe.

[C]

I came in here at like, 10 o' clock and sat here for a half hour, and there was no furniture. And I didn't notice.

[D]

Yeah, I walked in, I was like, what? Damn, what's going on? And Mark was like, oh, yeah.

[C]

What the. Is Park's talking, but the whole place was empty.

[A]

Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad I missed that.

[C]

I thought y' all move it out.

[A]

I'm glad y' all fixed it back. Yeah. Hey, Corey, I'm glad you got it back together before I got here.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Me and Corey lifted the couches and stuff back. Yeah.

[A]

He tried to hit me yesterday and.

[D]

Say, mark did not do that. That was Erickson.

[A]

I didn't think.

[C]

I get black people mixed up. Okay. One of us, I can't remember. I supervised it.

[A]

Glad that this thing is looking like it's supposed to look. What?

[E]

What's going on, man? You gonna share? Let me know what happened.

[A]

Yeah, no, the couches came. I bought the wrong couches, so they had to take them out.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's all. And then Corey thought that. And this is after they had carried them all the way up here, it couldn't fit in the elevator, so they wasn't about to come back up and help Cory put the couches back. So he hit me. You like I put the couches back.

[B]

All right, all right, Put him back.

[E]

Did you respond to. Put your phone down.

[A]

Good looking you, but my thing is, Cory know me better than that. Cory knows me better than you not.

[B]

Coming to put no couches on.

[A]

Like, he should have known that that meant tomorrow. Eric. When Eric.

[D]

He'll get us, right?

[A]

What's up, y'? All? How y' all doing, man? Good, man.

[D]

Excellent, man.

[A]

Good to be here.

[D]

Feeling great.

[A]

Happy to see y', all, for sure. Looking good. You're smelling good.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Flip. What up, man?

[E]

What's up, my.

[A]

I see you got that Lululemon on.

[E]

Yeah, you were making jokes about it earlier.

[A]

Don't try to jump in front of them.

[C]

This is.

[A]

This is when. This is when.

[E]

Tell your man do this.

[A]

This is when the murder doc does a reenactment. It's not really them, but this is what happened.

[E]

Yeah, tell me.

[A]

Got your Lululemon on?

[E]

I do.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Wait, what's Lululemon? Isn't that. I thought women wore that. What's lul. No, I'm not being funny. I thought.

[A]

No, you're being funny. Lul.

[C]

I swear to God, my daughter shops. I didn't know that. I don't know what it is exactly.

[A]

Lululemon is Athleisure Shapewear.

[D]

Shapewear.

[A]

It's gym clothing. He driv.

[C]

I mean, but, Mark, I really do.

[A]

You are correct, though.

[B]

Women typically. They make men stuff.

[E]

Yo.

[A]

Women typically do.

[C]

Got it. It's like Lane Bryant or something.

[A]

See, already we being sexist and ignorant and immature. That's not true.

[D]

That's what we do.

[A]

A woman started this company, okay? That's the fact.

[D]

And they had a flip in mind.

[A]

They made men's and women's clothing from the beginning. From the start.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

They still do.

[C]

And it's shaped. It's like shape.

[A]

It's shaped the girls wear. If you ever see girls with body wear the tights that, like, have a design on them, like the outlines of.

[B]

Where certain curves be.

[A]

Yeah, that's typically Lululemon, but anyway.

[D]

Wait, so where's your outlines at?

[B]

Yo.

[E]

Hey, yo.

[A]

I'm going.

[E]

I'm starting the gym, man. So, you know, I'm getting myself prepared.

[D]

Oh, I like that.

[A]

You hired a guy named Jim.

[C]

New cameraman.

[A]

Yeah. Really? Nah.

[E]

Are you working in his back? Watch your.

[A]

But how did you begin wearing Lululemon, was our question.

[E]

None of your business. None of your business.

[A]

I've seen you in a lot of stuff. So you.

[E]

Are you saying that you wasn't influenced?

[A]

None of it. Lululemon.

[E]

Are you saying you wasn't influenced?

[A]

No, I'm asking you a question to get some honesty so we can have a vulnerable guy to God conversation. I'm not saying that I influenced you. That's not what I'm saying.

[E]

Oh, I make sure correct that.

[A]

See, you don't know what I'm saying. Which is the funny thing. Cause we told Flip. I asked him, how did you start wearing this? Since he don't want to play along.

[E]

No.

[A]

And he Said, nah, that was all me. And then I said, nah. No, it wasn't.

[B]

No, it wasn't.

[A]

No, I said that. That's not how that story starts.

[E]

Why do you like to slow walk the dog or slow cook the pork?

[A]

Cause I tried to include you. You got out of my. You got out of my plate.

[E]

You slow cooking the pork. Tell me what you thinking.

[A]

Eh.

[E]

You think I'm out there and somebody put me on the. What are you thinking?

[A]

Once upon a time, in, like, 2011, I was in a mall. Beautiful year. With a beautiful young lady from Tampa. Shout out to her. She's married, so I won't say her name. Ish. Know her, of course. Shout out Ish. Anyway, and we went. We were in the mall. Shout out to my brothers. And we were in a mall. And the young lady said, it might even been 2010ish. And she said, y' all gotta run the Lululemon. And I said, what the is that? And she said, the whole thing we're doing now, Athleisure, it's like men wear, women wear. It's really big thing. You never heard of Lululemon? I said, no, I never heard of Lululemon. And she said, I gotta bring you the Lululemon. She brought me in there, and it changed my entire life, okay? And ever since, I've been wearing Lululemon, okay? What I'm telling you is no guy got out of bed. No black man. Okay.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

From where we from. Got out of bed and said, he's wearing cashmere sweatpants.

[D]

You can fight back.

[E]

Let me.

[D]

And I like them, but from alo.

[A]

I like from a low office. Shit. More. More athleisure. Look, and not only that. When I was a workout pits, these are. These are pants. More leisure than workout, right? Company.

[E]

He want to feel the wind between his wings. That's all it is.

[B]

Halo almost got me. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold. I'm gonna be perfectly honest. I was in a low.

[D]

Oh, we bunch of baddies up here.

[B]

But y' all put me with my girl. She picking out some. And then, you know, you just walking around.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

It's called Halo.

[A]

Halo. Hello.

[B]

Oh, it's not an act. I'm walking around like, oh, they got some fly shit for dudes in here. Then I'm like, I'm not gonna do it. I was close.

[E]

Hey, I'm gonna keep it talk.

[A]

No. Cause the is fly. It's the way that you're shaped. How I'm shaped. Y' all like Humpty Dumpty. Hey, yo, yo, like. Like Humpty Dumpty.

[B]

That's a square.

[A]

Your clothes are gonna look better as you get more. You know what I mean?

[D]

On your journey.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

So did you get this? Cause of your journey flip? Yeah. Okay, let's. It looks good. I like it.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

I'm fronting. Listen, my daughter and my wife.

[D]

You shouldn't probably.

[E]

You should work. My daughter. My daughter.

[B]

I am.

[E]

No, I'm not funny about that. My daughter been talking about going to Lululemon. I came up here, I heard y' all niggas talking about it. So I went and I said, yo, you heard that Lululemon shit them niggas talking about? My daughter said, yes, I been told you this. She showed me her cart. I had this.

[B]

How old is your daughter?

[E]

16 now.

[A]

Yeah, it was expensive.

[E]

Princess told me the carts, bro. And then Linky said the same thing. So then I went to the mall.

[A]

Oh, you spoke to Linky.

[C]

Oh, that's what's up.

[A]

That's dope. Spoke to Linky.

[C]

That's life.

[A]

Shout out to Linky. You think that's why ride or bro still alive. Oh.

[E]

What did you just say about white?

[A]

Nothing.

[E]

Did you lose your mind? Are you crazy? Yeah, I spoke to Linky, man cursed me the out yesterday. I told her I want to move a chef in the house.

[D]

Move in? Yeah, a guy chef.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, I told him.

[A]

For real.

[B]

Did you show her the chef?

[C]

I did.

[B]

And that was.

[D]

He cough.

[E]

And I understand what she was saying. Her thing was that when you first mentioned the chef is coming here, that you wanted a chef here, you didn't say anything about them staying here. That's what's her thing. And I told us.

[A]

So what?

[E]

That's what I told at the time.

[C]

Well, you want to chef to live in your house?

[D]

That's weird.

[A]

I don't think it's weird.

[E]

No, listen, I really wanna.

[A]

I think it's more expensive.

[E]

Yeah, it is expensive one too.

[C]

They're not worth it.

[E]

The thing about it, that's what people were saying. But I want to really work on my health, all jokes aside.

[A]

And. Well, you skipped a lot of steps.

[C]

No, he did better. You only ate. How many nuggets did you eat? Four. Yeah. Normally eats like seven by now.

[A]

Yeah. By the time you get to the chef living with you, there's a few other steps that maybe we could have taken. Like what?

[E]

Tell me.

[C]

Exercise?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like stop eating chicken nuggets.

[B]

If you change your diet, the way.

[A]

That you look at how many meals you'll even need will change. Yeah.

[C]

Understand.

[A]

Like, why not try. You skip meal prep.

[C]

Yeah. I got somebody for you. Right. She does this for our. She does this for us. And I got to know a few people. They'll come in your house to cook one day a week. They'll prep the meals for four, five, six days, however many days you want, give you the three meals. That way, you don't need somebody to live in your house. Just have them prep the meals they put in your fridge, and you can just heat them up. You see what I'm saying? And you have healthy meals. They're portioned out. You know exactly how many calories is. You know what went into it. It's all natural, organic stuff. That's. You'll. It'll be five times cheaper than having somebody live in your crib.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So I'm just telling you.

[D]

And you don't have some random person living in your house.

[C]

Exactly. Unless that's what you want.

[A]

Unless you don't care. You don't be home. You don't give a fuck. You don't give a fuck who about to live there. I do. No, I do. I do be home.

[E]

But that was a conversation about your mom. Hey, yo, that's my house and my home. I'm not scattered like you mentally. Listen, at the end of the day. At the end of the day, though, she wanted to have that conversation. I was being ignorant, just being on some. And I was like, man, I do what I want. Got to my do what I want bag, not you. I do what I want. You can't tell me nothing. And nobody better be rude to my chef when they come here. I started talking. All right, watch.

[A]

Good luck with that. Yeah. How.

[B]

How that work out, though?

[E]

It didn't work out good, but I stand on that now.

[B]

Yeah, but the chef ain't moving in.

[E]

That's not true.

[A]

Well, he went straight to the clothes, and now he going straight to the living. It's my man. I wish you luck. I wish you luck, man.

[E]

I'm just trying to get to it, yo.

[A]

Get to get a treadmill.

[C]

Get a treadmill.

[A]

I'm going go walking.

[B]

Walking.

[A]

I'm going go ao and get you a little something.

[B]

It's some.

[A]

I go alo so much. One of the workers had to stop one of the other workers from racially profiling me. That's how much I be in there. They must have made a new hire or something. I came in there on, like, laundry day, bubbing it, and they was looking at me with their little Walkie talkie, Whit and then checked her. Hey, not. No, not him. Just leave him alone. He do a lot in here. I got you. I'm going get you some good looking, bro.

[E]

I appreciate that, man.

[A]

I got you. What's up with y'? All?

[B]

What's good?

[A]

Y' all good? Y' all good? Great, great. Y' all good, sir. Good. I'm glad to hear that. Mark, you all right?

[C]

I'm hanging in there.

[A]

Good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good. Mic check, mic check. Audience, how y' all good? Yo, this computer Mike shake. 1, 2, 1, 2.

[E]

Mike check.

[A]

1, 2, 1, two. What's poppin out there? Big jersey. Big jersey. What up? You know I want a super free super fre yeah, you know I need.

[C]

A super fre super freak yeah, you.

[A]

Know I want a super fre fre super fre. I got it be freeze. I got it for you, breeze, breeze ass for it. We giving it to him. Ho atl. What's going on out there? Hey, shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Always for the ladies. Wait for the lady. No, I got doors tomorrow. All the dumb boys out there. Everybody get money out there. Shout out to the first and last time listeners. Shout out to the pat. I definitely some buttons up on this computer somewhere.

[E]

What the hell you was doing down here?

[A]

Down here? I was doing nothing. Shut up.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Rest in peace.

[A]

Bank it up out there.

[C]

95 air max.

[A]

Song came from other road boy, you.

[C]

Know we text home you want a.

[A]

Whole thing Hit me on the platform.

[C]

Hood nigga hot chill what I snack on hood nigga it ain't nothing to get you at home standing in the.

[B]

Kitchen with my wife.

[A]

Whatever the new action I did, it does help with the I did, I did hear this outside this weekend. I heard it outside. I did, I did. What it do? It was a long intro. I wanted to play that right there. You said you heard it outside. What it do? Everything everything is supposed to do at least in New York City at least in New York City at least in the boogie down at least in the Bronx. I ain't going to hold you, man. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the universe. Let's get these drops out the way.

[B]

Who was that?

[A]

New Flip and flip is in the building. What episode is this?

[D]

865.

[A]

Welcome to episode 865 of the JBP brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks Prize Pitch gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button Here with some really amazing people. To my right, Queens get the money. Queens Flip is here. To his right. Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building. To his right, Big Freeze, the freeziest of them all. Mr. Take it further himself is here. To his right, Elmira's finest big parks is in the building. Poets here. Corey's here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly, certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How are you guys doing? How are you guys doing? How's everybody feeling? What's poppin? What's poppin with Poppy? It's falling. New York. Yeah.

[B]

Felt good going outside the little, little lights. Early 60s. Burning hot early in the morning.

[A]

Stupid ass son. Enough, Enough now.

[B]

I throwing the hoodies back on.

[C]

Yeah, I'm ready for hoodie weather.

[D]

Yeah, same.

[B]

How y'? All? How was your weekend?

[D]

Chill, man, I didn't really do shit. Had a nice little phone off weekend. Chill. Went see the movie. Went saw. Yeah.

[A]

What did you think?

[D]

I thought it was absolutely fantastic. We can talk about it later. Unless you want to do it now.

[A]

No, we can talk about it later.

[D]

And then I just.

[A]

Chill, man.

[D]

Watch football, man.

[E]

That's it.

[B]

Kept it light.

[A]

Pretty.

[B]

Did the same. I was. Kept it light all weekend. Watched football. I finally saw the hip movie.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Yeah, I will talk about that. I'll give my parts later, but that's it. I ain't do nothing else.

[C]

Yeah, I ain't do shit, man. I was in the. Spent most of my time at the Auto mechanic.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

I popped like two tires. Apparently driving on the side of the road in New Jersey is very dangerous for your car.

[D]

Frowned upon.

[A]

Yeah. Or in the middle of the road in New Jersey. The Jersey roads, period.

[D]

Yeah, New York roads. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Mandatory.

[B]

Specifically, have y' all seen Mark drive?

[D]

No, I never have.

[A]

No.

[C]

I'm a very driver. Just dangerous.

[B]

Batman.

[A]

Oh, worse than me? Yeah.

[B]

Cause you still obey, like some of the laws. He don't give a fuck.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'm a great driver.

[B]

He don't care. Mark don't give a fuck.

[C]

Oh, yeah. If my wife ain't in the car, especially. Cause I'm usually going to get my son or something like that. Like when I leave here. Oh, all rules are off, man. I'm. I see Waze as like a personal challenge. So, like, if it's like an hour and 20, I try to get there in an hour. I do the side of the road, I merge on the other side, I make the U turn in the middle of the highway. I do whatever I can to shave five, six minutes off at a time, but it's fucking up my tires, man. And I got pulled over this week. No shit. Yeah, but I can see if. I didn't even get pulled over doing none of that shit I got pulled over doing, they said. Illegal use of a cell phone and doing 45 in the school zone.

[A]

I knew that was gonna happen after your Asada Shakur shit. You on the radar now, man. I figured the New Jersey police would have Jersey have something to say about that one. They're listening, you know? Anyway, yeah. I'm glad to see everybody made it here. All right. Y' all are looking good.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Yes, sir. Smelling good.

[E]

We are.

[A]

A lot of things need our attention.

[B]

Well, how was y' all weekend? Y' all didn't know. We care about y', all, too.

[A]

I did absolutely nothing.

[E]

Same thing.

[B]

That's why it's fire.

[A]

I was. I was resting my. My foot.

[B]

My foot was up.

[C]

Oh, that joint swollen crazy last year.

[B]

Did you get it looked at?

[A]

It was really, really bad. Yeah, I looked at it. No, no.

[E]

Did you go to the doctor?

[A]

I looked at it. No, nigga, I didn't go to the doctor. I'm black. I looked at it.

[E]

You're not breaking.

[A]

I walked to the kitchen. Butt ass. Okay.

[D]

You don't learn, do you?

[A]

It was nippy.

[C]

And you're not breaking.

[A]

Generational curses, yo. Walk into the fridge. Butt ass. When it's nippy in your house and your foot don't work is just funny. I was in there dragging. Dragging his foot on the sleeve. Somebody was taping my shit. I know they were.

[C]

Anyway. Is the foot better? It looks less swollen.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's a lot. It's a lot better. I got a good ice pack. Iced it all. All weekend. Oh, good. I don't think anything is really damaged in there, so. I'm all right. I'm all right. Thank God. But that's what I did. I missed. My good brother N was having the kickball joint down the street. I missed that shout out to Naj and everybody. That was at a kickball tournament, but that was it. That was it. I want to almost start skipping that part of the pod. I'm More than likely. I'm. I didn't do anything.

[B]

You on our side now, more than likely. That's normally what our shit be. We ain't do nothing.

[A]

Yeah. So when I did try to step out the other night and my girl said something, I put my Foot down. Shut up.

[B]

Which foot, though?

[A]

Shut up.

[D]

The good foot.

[A]

I put my good foot down. Shut up. I've been out for five months. It's over. I'm going out five months.

[C]

Five months.

[A]

No, I'm lying.

[C]

No, I know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

In Joe time. That's like a week.

[A]

I said over a month. She gonna pull up the receipts. Nah, it was just two weeks. Just two, three weeks ago. You a psycho bitch. Anyway, where do y' all wanna start? A lot of things need our focus and attention.

[C]

Let's start with Bad Bunny.

[A]

Look at Park.

[D]

Now, can we get through this conversation without y' all just saying you're gay?

[C]

It depends on how hard you go.

[A]

For bad saying you're gay or without saying I'm gay.

[D]

Me.

[A]

Okay, that's usually how the Bad Bunny.

[D]

Conversations go up here.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I'd be thinking that we're mad supportive of your Bad Bunny fanfare.

[D]

Yeah, we fuck with that a little bit, but we don't. Usually the conversation gets halted very quickly with just, oh, you're a little gay.

[B]

Well, that's two things to be true.

[C]

You might be a little gay.

[A]

I don't mind the gay jokes.

[D]

He's one of the biggest artists in the world.

[A]

We should like, if you're a little gay, I don't think it's because of your band, Bunny Van. Period. I agree.

[D]

I agree 100%.

[A]

All right. We will not call you gay during this segment.

[B]

Yeah, well, wait.

[C]

Let's not make any commitments just yet. I don't know how hard you gonna go.

[A]

How did you feel? Where were you when the news broke?

[D]

I was at the movie theater and I didn't have a phone, so I got home and I saw. I say congratulations. I was like, I don't know what.

[B]

That means, but that's why you say I'm like that. We didn't even acknowledge it.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't see it until many hours later. And I was confused because I didn't go on Twitter or anything. So I was just like, oh, okay. Bad Bunny's headlining the Super Bowl. I think it's amazing. Personally, he's one of the biggest artists in the world. The NFL is clearly trying to expand to a global audience, particularly in Spanish speaking countries. Why would they not pick the biggest artists to represent that?

[C]

This is amazing. And it's going to be all in Spanish from what I'm hearing.

[D]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[A]

What was it gonna be in, Mark?

[C]

Well, sometimes they'll do like two English songs or they'll have like a Or to have another artist come out to do a couple English songs so that the Americans feel good.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it. Oh, you think he's not bringing anybody out?

[C]

That's what I'm saying. I think it's gonna be an entirely. What I've heard so far is it's gonna be an entirely. Spanish speaking.

[A]

You ain't got a Bad Bunny insider.

[C]

I got a Super bowl insider.

[A]

Oh, shit. Recall ho talk. That shit. Okay. Okay. Well, I think that would make people. I think that would excite people.

[C]

There's some people who weren't happy about it.

[A]

Wait, before we get there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Is everyone in the room happy about this?

[D]

I am very happy.

[C]

I'm static about it.

[E]

I don't care about it.

[A]

I don't care.

[E]

I don't listen to bad money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't listen.

[C]

I should try.

[B]

This is one of those where there's been plenty of Super Bowls half times in the past where I'm like, oh, that's just not for me.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Now I go do something else. It's 15 minutes. It ain't the end of the world.

[A]

I'm conflicted.

[D]

You like Bad Bunny, though?

[E]

Let me guess. FBA came out.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

Let me guess. We need some slaves on this halftime show.

[A]

You know he pro black.

[C]

Yeah, I know. You know, I want Cotton on his halftime show.

[A]

I don't.

[E]

He's not talking about 1876, man. Mr. Button, one of the top buttons.

[C]

No, my granddaddy built this stadium. I need some goddamn rep representation.

[A]

Bad Money might be black. Well, at least before he got that jaw surgery. Anyway.

[C]

Shout out to Bad Bunny.

[A]

I'm a little conflicted here, and I'm gonna try to. I'm gonna keep my conflictions brief because I support Bad Bunny. I want to see him do this. I think he's gonna kill. I think he's got the songs, the records.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

He does.

[A]

Some of them girls that dubbed y' all Super Bowl. Super bowl party invite this year. They'll come.

[D]

They're coming.

[A]

Oh, no. They'll be there.

[D]

It's gonna be a very female friendly Super Bowl.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I'm gonna have another. Yeah.

[B]

This is like a step under Rihanna.

[A]

Super Bowl. Me, too.

[B]

For them. I'm talking about.

[A]

I don't think it's a step under.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

In terms of what it does to the women in your living room. Like, I threw a Super bowl party when Rihanna was there. All of us was just watching Rihanna.

[B]

But that's because in her defense, you know, Rihanna was pregnant. She didn't really Rihanna that.

[D]

But that's the difference. I think definitely today, this year, it might have a little more impact than Rihanna did that particular year. Just cause of the circumstances that Rihanna was.

[A]

Buddy, they left America in droves to go to Puerto Rico to watch this dude.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I know some people that went multiple times.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

International. I mean, I don't know if any of y' all saw the Big Apple music. Fuerza Arregida had a concert. Y' all probably didn't see it, but Fuerza Regida is a really big group. They're from California, but they. They're. They're Mexican origin. Mexican, like in Roots. And they. They do, like, they fill UP Mexico Stadium. 65,000 people. And a lot of people went from Southern California, Northern California to Mexico City this past weekend. It was live on Apple Music. The shit was crazy. That's what this is going to be like times 10, I think.

[D]

Also, not for nothing, we didn't talk about it, but the Bad Bunny concert series in Puerto Rico, there is a live stream that they did two weeks ago in on Apple. Amazon Prime.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

And it's phenomenal. So if you want to get some insight of what this might look like.

[A]

I saw about an hour of that. It really was phenomenal. Now, when I go in at my dad's house, that had to be a Saturday night.

[D]

It was a Saturday.

[A]

Yeah. Dropping the kid off to hit the street. Anyway, anytime I go to my dad's house and Bad Bunny is around, actually, since they've been to the Nick game, I can't stop hearing about Bad Bunny from my dad's house. And that's what I'm saying about, like, when I gave my dad those Knick tickets, the Joe Budden seats, and Bad Bunny was seated right in front of him. I know his wife.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

His wife got anxiety and will be loud and will have no celebrity etiquette. And he was just an absolute sweetheart to my dad and his wife. Like, he was great to them. Took all of the pictures, signed all of the autographs.

[E]

That's nice.

[A]

Like, whatever image you had. Whatever image I had from him taking the phone and throwing it like it's out the window. You can't say nothing about Bad Bunny to me now. Right. The music is good. And he seems to be a really great person, adult person. So I don't. I think this is super fly.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I also thought that there was some people that I would have loved to see before him.

[B]

Who?

[A]

No, tell us. It's not important. I'm not stepping on Bad Bunny's moment. It don't matter. Those people don't matter. But how do.

[B]

But I asked who. Because there were people.

[A]

Cuz you a messy.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Cuz you're a messy.

[B]

I know why you had pot, kettle.

[A]

No, I know. I ain't say anything. You say pod.

[B]

I'm not saying.

[A]

Put your balls on the table.

[B]

There were certain people, people that were asked and they declined it as well. Like he wasn't the number one. There was other people, like, they asked, like who? Adele, Taylor Swift.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

Taylor Swift declined. Yes, I can see that.

[A]

Oh, yes, please. Thank God. Yeah, thank God.

[D]

Although I think she'll put out a good show.

[A]

People. I'm talking about a black.

[E]

Yeah, look, there you go.

[A]

There you go. Yeah, I'm talking about black people.

[B]

You know who you talking about there?

[A]

You're a messy.

[B]

No, I'm not. I'm just trying. I said some names.

[A]

You know me long enough to know. Well, some of the people I'm thinking about. Wait, he's not getting it. Who?

[B]

He's not getting.

[A]

I wasn't talking about Chris.

[B]

Okay, come on.

[C]

And I wouldn't. I put that. I would put bad.

[B]

Let's not step on Bad Bunny's moment.

[A]

I don't want to do that. Bad Bunny is gonna. Listen if you think you on the fence about it. I think he wins you over for sure. Yeah, he wins you over. If you're gonna watch him live, he's gonna win you over. They put a lot of money in that Amazon set and the smoke and dancers.

[D]

That's how it looked in the arena, by the way. Yeah, like, that show was phenomenal. Being there in person, even from my nosebleed section, it looked. It was a accurate representation of how the concert went. So he performs like he. It wasn't no backup singers or backup tracks. He was out there singing and rapping with live instrumentation. He's a phenomenal performer and the production value is super high. This is going to be a great performance.

[A]

And I love. I'm sorry, freeze. And I love the fact that, you know, he put out the message that I'm not performing in America in fear that Ice may come get some of my fans, and I'm not supporting that. So for him to be performing in America this way, like it's flying.

[D]

I saw a lot of people fighting back on that, and I don't think that they understand what that means. A Bad Bunny concert at an arena? Yes. Ice will be there. There will be people in Danger. Bad Bunny performing at the super bowl in front of billionaires and very rich people is probably not going to bring up that many ice people putting people in danger.

[C]

And ice is not raiding rating a stadium at the Super Bowl.

[B]

The people that's going to the super.

[C]

Bowl are going to.

[B]

And don't matter who the halftime performer is.

[A]

Y' all got the interview. The NFL spoke nice, y'. All.

[C]

They did.

[A]

Yeah, the NFL spoke, Dice. They got the paperwork signed. Hey, y' all can't come in here.

[B]

Don't up our.

[A]

Yeah, this is bigger than you.

[B]

But what I was saying about Bad Bunny is. I don't understand any of Bad Bunny. But that's the thing about just good music, though. You don't. Good music is just good music, right? I've heard you play certain records and I'm like, oh, this shit fly. I don't know a word he's saying, right? This shit just sound good. And I seen what it do when they hear it.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And see, I know that you believe that. So I don't get your Afrobeats take.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Because, like, I agree with you.

[B]

Right? But again, I just don't like the Afrobeats. We ain't got to go back to Afro.

[C]

We not.

[A]

We not.

[C]

We not.

[B]

It just does Bad Bunny shit sounds.

[C]

Good to me in Afro.

[B]

When I hear that it don't got it. That's all just got it.

[C]

Fair enough.

[D]

Ain't not for nothing if anybody ever takes the time. And maybe you will, maybe you won't. And I think Apple music makes it easy now with. I think they have translations. If you look at his lyrics, especially with this album in. He is very. There's a lot of love songs and just regular for the Hoes records, but there's also a lot of records with political meanings and implications or cultural meanings and implications to Puerto Ricans particularly. So the success he's had this year with that album in particular, critically and commercially, this is the year to do it.

[B]

And what is his. The show you went to with that residency, they said he bought what, like 700 something.

[D]

Three quarters of a billion dollars.

[B]

Million dollars to his hometown.

[D]

Hometown?

[C]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[D]

If it was a state, would be the poorest state in the country.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So you bring 3.750 million dolo. Yeah. By yourself.

[C]

Yo. That's fucking amazing.

[D]

It's amazing.

[C]

But shout out to him. I don't think there's anybody. Taylor Swift will probably be the only person who I think you can make a good argument for this year. Who would be at that level? And you telling me that she declined kind of makes sense to me.

[D]

Because she has an album coming out, I think so.

[C]

By the way, she was certified today, the first female artist to hit 100 million RIAA. So again, that makes sense. But when you look at who's streaming the highest, who's getting. I mean, Bad Bunny is number two. Bad Bunny's. That's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody else to compete. I was a little frustrated with some of the people online who were saying some pretty ignorant things. I don't want to get into all of it. But just to say, like they were trying to almost discredit him because they didn't have a good argument for. Instead of just saying you don't want him doing it, they try to say, well, we needed a bigger artist. There is no bigger artist artist. There is no more popular artist. There is no more streaming artist that was going to be in this mix.

[B]

People just live in their bubbles. If I don't know it, it ain't popular.

[C]

And it's.

[B]

That's all it is. A lot of times I know I don't know nothing. I saw all the time, yo, name five Bad Bunny records. Well, I don't have to, right. To know what he's doing.

[C]

We know that.

[B]

I can't name one. And I still know what he's doing.

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

Name your artists that you could name. 5, 10, 15, 20 records. Can't go sell out 30. How many shows?

[D]

He did 30 something.

[B]

30 something shows.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

They can't do it in the same place. They can't do it.

[A]

So where's the super bowl at San Francisco.

[B]

San Francisco?

[C]

Yeah. The Eagles gonna be against whoever they.

[A]

Got Puerto Ricans out there.

[D]

There's a strong Latin community.

[B]

They'll be there.

[C]

Money gonna bring all the Latinos. I ain't gotta be Puerto Rico. Mexicans, Dominicans, Gu. Guatemalans, everybody coming outside, everybody who speaks Spanish gonna be in that man. It's gonna. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great.

[B]

The part, the parties in the area is gonna be what? That's where it's at the Super Bowl.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Catch one of them. Can't miss.

[A]

Well, congratulations to Bad Bunny.

[B]

Congratulations.

[A]

Absolutely. We'll. We'll be watching it, if not there. So, Joe, you think about go every year? We think about going. Yeah.

[C]

For you, does it depend on who's playing?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Okay, for sure. Assuming it's the Eagles playing against somebody from the. From the afc, does that make you. Does that make you do it?

[A]

No.

[B]

Wow. What teams would make you do it? Yeah, I know the Giants, but move that. But what other teams would make you do?

[A]

You know what? It's, it's not, it's not, it's, it's team based, but it's momentum based on. It's momentum based. Like the Eagles win. Saquon had a all career year. The momentum wasn't there for me. I'm talking about like if Detroit would have made it, if the Ravens would have made it. Somebody that hasn't been there. Fan base is nuts. Got you willing to travel the fan base parties.

[C]

Like if Buffalo fan base has Buffalo Detroit.

[A]

Yeah, that would be crazy.

[C]

Buffalo Detroit. Yeah.

[A]

Buffalo would make that a good time. Buffalo fans would make that a good time for people. They will put on an amazing show, an amazing game. I loved what they did when Hamlin was up over there. Both Buffalo fans. It depends on the team.

[C]

It depends on the team that makes sense.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

I don't have that with the Eagles. I don't have that with some of the more obnoxious fan bases.

[C]

So you wouldn't go for the Giants, huh?

[A]

Probably not.

[C]

Okay, good.

[A]

That's my team I would want to see down to on tv, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's interesting. If it's my team, I want to see it on tv.

[D]

Yeah, I would agree with that. If the Dolphins made the playoff or the super bowl playoffs. Freudian slip. I don't know if I would want to see that in person.

[A]

Yeah, I wanted, I want them to use all of them million and billion dollar cameras, all of those angles. The commentators, I want to hear them. I'm almost like that with Nick games too.

[B]

I, I, I went to the, I think it was the AFC Championship game that the Steelers played the jets years ago. Ain't nothing like being in there when your team is in that game and that wasn't even a Super bowl. But that energy being in there, you can't match that shit. I would love to go if my team is in the Super Bowl. I want to see that one day. I don't care.

[D]

I would have to get really good tickets would be the thing.

[A]

I gave my dad the amazing Yankee World Series tickets that we had. Like, I'm just not the type that wants to be in that crowd of people.

[C]

I wanted to see it. Once I saw the Phillies win the World Series in 08. I loved it, but I could live without saying it, you know, I don't need to be there. And it's also different being in your hometown, when you win a championship versus the super bowl, where you're in another city and you're part of a section of people, you know, I mean, it's a different vibe.

[D]

Half of whom were probably a fan of neither team.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

Like, Philly did it already. That one where Kevin Hart was trying to get on the thing and they shoved him away. That was. That was the time to be there. Right?

[C]

That's what I'm saying. Now we won another one since then. I'm kind of good. Like, it's cool as a.

[B]

As a Steeler fan. We everywhere.

[D]

Yeah, y' all got a big ass.

[B]

So if I don't care where that super bowl is, if Pittsburgh is here, that's going to be a Pittsburgh home game.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

It will feel like we ing akashore.

[C]

Fortunately, you won't have to worry about that for.

[A]

For. For a while. Yeah, it's fine.

[C]

I was thinking about you on Sunday.

[B]

What's that?

[C]

And I was a little frustrated with you.

[B]

Uh.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

What I did.

[D]

You got beef already?

[C]

It's not beef. It's just I. I. Sunday's the day that I listen to new music.

[B]

Okay?

[E]

Oh, okay.

[C]

And I had a list of new music to listen to, but I put at the top of the list for you the new Jeezy album.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Still snowing.

[C]

Jeezy and Drama mixtape still snowing.

[A]

Let's do it.

[C]

DJ Drama. I put it on, and an hour later, I feel like you or jeezy owes me 9.99. Why?

[B]

Let me hear.

[C]

I just. It was.

[A]

Actually.

[C]

Let me preface this. Jeezy's a giant to me. Jeezy's a legend to me. And I like almost every. I like every Jeezy project.

[A]

This one.

[C]

Okay, So I was expecting the same thing. I just. I just couldn't. There's one or two. One or two tracks I could live with, but overall, no, overall, for me, it was not what I wanted from.

[B]

Jeezy, and I understand that. Y' all know I talked to y' all about this. When I first had the album, I came in and was like, yo, let me prep y' all now.

[C]

Oh, I wasn't there that day.

[D]

Ice played it for me. I was there.

[C]

You should have texted me.

[B]

I let y' all know. I was like, yo, this ain't. I was surprised. And y' all know how I am when it come to GZ music. I was super surprised. I'm like, what are you doing?

[D]

Should I give a little.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Give a little bit. Funny.

[D]

As any particular track I should start with.

[A]

Wait, hold on. Pause.

[E]

When it come to the. You like, look at.

[A]

Look. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Walk easy. Any other thing, you trash.

[C]

Thank you, Flip.

[B]

Right now.

[C]

Right now. I'm walking alone right now.

[E]

I prepared y'. All.

[A]

We how.

[E]

What do you think about the album?

[B]

Well, he said he wanted to get into it, but I was going to get to that. I have thoughts. And I don't hold my. I don't hold my punches when it comes to Jesus.

[E]

Can't wait to hear it, Priest.

[B]

Okay, well.

[D]

Well, let's start right with the intro.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Shout the drama.

[C]

Shout out to drama, Phillies finest.

[B]

Shout out to Cannon.

[A]

The guys Lake.

[C]

What up?

[D]

Okay. As soon as that comes on, the tempo is just like. This does not feel like the right tempo for gc.

[B]

Well, let me tell you, soon as I pressed play, I said, what the is this?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It went to track two. Okay. By the time I got to Treason, which I think is track three, which I love. But I'm like, oh, I don't know.

[A]

What he's doing in terms of the.

[C]

The.

[B]

What is this?

[C]

The content or the order or the music?

[B]

The music.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm not used to this. So when I hear Jeezy, I'm thinking club banger, trap music, you know, like that rap. I. I told y'. All. To me, it felt like $0.50 mixtape. Sincerely yours, Southside.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Where he rapped over all, like, cookout beats.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But not as good.

[D]

This seems like a direct conflict with the Snow brand.

[B]

And I hated the name.

[D]

Like, this is not snow music. This is something. And at the timing of dropping in October or whatever, late September.

[B]

He dropped it on his birthday, so I'll give you that.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

You drop. You're doing a project. A lot of. I know a couple artists drop on their birthdays, whatever.

[A]

But snow and shit, along with dramas, presents.

[B]

This. This gives you. If this drops, you have an expectation.

[D]

If this drops Memorial Day weekend, it makes all the sense in the world to me.

[B]

Literally what I said, right?

[D]

Or even July 4th weekend.

[B]

Like, this is a summertime album. It's dropping too late. I hated this.

[D]

Snow in the summer or something. You know what I mean? Like, you could make a little pun somewhere.

[A]

Exactly. Hated this. This.

[B]

On my first listen, me and you talked.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I didn't have a second listen.

[B]

And I'm sitting here like, parks, look, listen to this.

[A]

Listen.

[D]

It took it.

[B]

I don't want to hear this.

[D]

Fourteen songs for me to get to one.

[B]

I was mad.

[C]

Yeah. That Tony was it Tony Braxton. It was one of them joints.

[B]

I. That's the worst.

[C]

I was like, I can't even. It was unlistenable.

[A]

Play that one.

[D]

What's it called?

[B]

Another sad song.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I text. DJ Drama made this song.

[A]

What the hell happened?

[B]

I was mad already.

[A]

Ready? I. I always thought somebody should rap over this, though.

[B]

Well, not this.

[A]

I always thought it. If Ross came on right now, Ross.

[B]

Gonna do it differently.

[A]

Very pockish. Let me hear, let me hear.

[D]

It sounds very much like a. Like a Tupac inspired record, which he is.

[B]

Tupac is Jeezy's favorite rapper.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

So I get. And the inspiration is in there. I get it.

[A]

It.

[B]

I hated this song. Hate it, hate it, hate it. Still hate.

[A]

I let us talk and clown you. Enough of you. Now we trying to clown you.

[B]

Y' all want me to. No, he's mad that I'm not.

[A]

I hate this. We want to clown you and you won't let us. Cuz you making sense, right? We don't want to hear none of that. No.

[B]

Cuz y' all thought I was going to come in here.

[C]

I want you to ride for this album so we can tell you no. I don't do my game plan.

[A]

Music.

[B]

When music is bad, I'mma say it's bad. That when music is good, I' ma say it's good. My favorite artist in the world can put out some bad.

[A]

All right, but now y' all want to say that to you. It ain't the same. You saying like me trying to get ahead of the right. Your favorite artist dropped some. It's different when we say it. Okay, and listen the funny.

[B]

But I still have more. But I'll let y' all get your.

[A]

Off because guys, we're not doing 90 minutes on.

[B]

All right, well, let me finish then real quick.

[A]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[B]

Right then he posted that D D. Nice and him was doing an Instagram live.

[D]

I like that. In the summer.

[B]

Cool. We know what D Nice does when he get busy.

[D]

Shout out to D. Nice.

[C]

Shout out to D. Nice.

[B]

I said, let me watch the stream. What D. Nice did. Playing originals like, you know, he gets into his cookout groove bag mixing it in with the Jeezy records. I got a different appreciation for the album now.

[A]

Hey, shut up now. Enough of you got to shut up now. Y' all can.

[B]

Now y' all can come.

[A]

If he. If his mic is live, muted, he's finished. All right. Do you.

[C]

Mix it with some?

[A]

Yo, and then D. Nice had an insta live and I seen it. It gave me a new appreciation for records that been out since the 50s. Yo, all of those classic joints that came out in the 50s. Oh, now that's exalted. It's like when I bring up Bad Bunnies. What the fuck is he talking about? Oh, my God. I never heard. No, I never. He keep trying to not let us go. 4 non blondes show ass up, nigga. And Jeezy and Lake is my mans too.

[E]

Shout out to Jeezy.

[A]

My problem with the project. Let me be serious now. But I don't want. I used to get too mad.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

My problem with this project is. Is the records that he's doing this over. Like, if you have a love of bands and what they did in that.

[D]

Time, they stiffened them up.

[A]

These you just didn't need to do this on. Like, we listened to those records to hear the instruments. The groove. Yeah, the groove and the bop. Much different from what 50 did. That freeze brought up 50 picked records that Bill with Is a Lovely day shits that you could hear a rap cadence on.

[E]

I remember that.

[A]

I don't want to hear no rapping over nights over Egypt. I don't. Yeah, I don't want to hear rapping over the intro joint. And I love Jeezy, but I don't want to hear I love Jeezy too. Not the right time, not the right vibe. The tempo.

[D]

Wrong tempo.

[A]

Yeah, slow that down. He did.

[B]

He got towards the end. He got the.

[A]

No, not you.

[D]

It's hard to make it to the end.

[A]

What's wrong with this? What.

[E]

What number is the hot record?

[C]

What number?

[E]

What number?

[A]

Look at free.

[E]

What number?

[A]

Tell us the number. Love their favorite rappers. I go do love their favorite rappers.

[B]

There's a couple joints and it's a couple up there. I'm not saying the entire. Is terrible. Treason is good. Hustler's paradise is good.

[A]

Get a little bit of treason if you don't. Let's move on. The project ain't great enough up to even get 55 minutes of this.

[B]

It's a couple shits. That's all right.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

I like this.

[A]

I do like this. I think that. I think that proves the point about what happens when you slow it down.

[C]

Yeah, the tempo.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

He picks up it.

[A]

I mean, just with him.

[D]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

I'm done. Jeezy, don't trick us again with the drama and snowing outside.

[B]

That was a bad part.

[D]

This is not.

[B]

That was a bad part.

[D]

This is not snowy music and the.

[B]

Reason why I can't.

[D]

Or cocaine. Well, I guess it could be cooking.

[B]

Tap them. Tap them. Yo, both of y', all look at me. The reason why I can't get too mad at him, though, is because Jeezy's over 40 and I want to put out grown music.

[A]

I'm not still in the club. Told you. What is your favorite?

[B]

I still said the project ain't good.

[A]

But you be too hard on the field.

[B]

I tell the field the project ain't good.

[A]

Yeah, but the way.

[B]

Not as invested to the field. I'm invested to my favorite.

[A]

But the way you doing this, you my man, so I ain't going to highlight. No.

[B]

Come on. Had a conversation. That's what we here to talk.

[A]

No, we don't need to talk about this. I want to get that.

[B]

I will talk about. You said me the way I'm. I'm hard on the field.

[E]

Give the field a harder time than you're doing now.

[A]

And I don't even think that's. I don't even think that's the real conversation.

[E]

And you don't give Runway for mistakes either.

[A]

The real conversation is how much love is it okay to have for your favorite rappers? Okay, but I want to take it off. Freeze. Freeze is just an example of it. And it's funny because he's sitting in front of us, but at some point.

[D]

It gets hard when your favorite rapper drops some. It's actually. I feel like it's harder when the. Your favorite rapper drops me. Like real mid. Not the Internet mid. Like the Internet says mid to everything. That's not good. There's actual mids in the world.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

It's harder doing a mid review for your favorite rapper than a trash review.

[A]

You. In my opinion, whether mid or. Whether mid or Dylon. Hot fire in your 40s. I don't know if it's okay to love your favorite rappers or show it at least, please. You can't show it. What age do you get to do? You have to slow down.

[B]

Ain't no age.

[A]

It is. Look at him.

[B]

I'm saying with anything. With my favorite. I'm still an AI fan with my favorites, they gonna be my favorites forever.

[A]

I know, but how you showcase it, right? Like. Like the Billy Joel concert today, the last one in Madison Square Garden. All the Billy Joel fans came out. They. They the same age. They grew up with the story. But in the audience, you see them.

[B]

They like, yeah, who's dead for that?

[A]

They just mouthing the words. It just looks different.

[B]

We can't be so old. Has he been missing you old?

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So, yes, I'm not. But that's why. Why I like the fact that he's not. I don't be in the clubs, so I don't want to hear the club music from him. That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm giving him. At least the past for trying to make age appropriate music.

[A]

Okay, got it.

[D]

I can do that's all. I can dig that.

[B]

If it ain't good, it still ain't good. This is. No, there's no songs off of this that I'm putting on my Jeezy playlist.

[D]

Got it.

[B]

Not one.

[A]

I do like him making age appropriate music.

[D]

Yeah, there's something to that. Whether I do like swinging a miss, maybe put.

[B]

Even if it don't work, the fact that you tried that, that you went. I'm not in the streets no more, so I'm not making trap music like that.

[A]

But, hey, reminisce something else.

[D]

Yeah, you can reminisce.

[A]

Reminisce about when you sold a brick or some.

[B]

Well, he still sprinkled some of the lines in there. But I want to do something different that my age group could understand and respect. These beats, these records, these samples. Which is why I said the D Nice was really dope. Not saying I got appreciation for the old songs. I knew the old songs, but it made me like these songs a little bit better hearing them right after the older. The original record. My mom's is closing.

[A]

Please.

[B]

I'm a close. My mom is a D nice fan. My mom's is a D nice fan. So she watched the live. I don't even. That's a whole nother conversation about my mother being on social media that I don't know about, but she hit me and was like, don't you like Jeezy? I said, yeah. She's like, yo, some of those new songs that he was playing are kind of okay. I was like, all right, Mom.

[D]

If it's Mama proof.

[B]

Then I was like, all right, Mom.

[A]

I didn't expect that. Make some noise to freeze. We gotta freeze. Shout out to Mama Ice, you did a big dog. All right. Yeah, don't do that.

[E]

Justice League.

[B]

You know we had another topic first, right?

[A]

We got another topic right now, too.

[B]

All right, let's get to another topic.

[A]

Let's see. What else? What else?

[E]

What else?

[A]

What else, guys? All things Young Thug. Let's keep it in Atlanta.

[D]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Let's keep it in Atlanta. Young Thug had a something to say about therapy. Again, I wish this was here.

[D]

Why?

[A]

Because, you know, it's just therapy views.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I would love to hear from him on this Young Thug topic. And we'll get to that in a second. But I want to do a proper review of the Young Thug project.

[D]

Oh, please.

[A]

Because I was home, I turned the on on my Sonos, took it off the phone. I let it play. Mm. It's a really good album.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[D]

Well, I would know about. Really good. Really good.

[A]

It's a good album.

[D]

It's a good album.

[B]

It's a good.

[C]

It's better than our review suggested last week.

[D]

It's better than all the initial. Everyone online.

[A]

Hold on.

[D]

Trashing it and thrashing it.

[E]

He called you.

[D]

No, it's just not that bad.

[B]

Nah, you know what it is?

[C]

It's not.

[B]

We got a chance to really listen to it.

[E]

That's not bad at all.

[C]

Well, part of it is the album was. Again, it's like the sequencing, bro. The sequence is terrible, but it's not. There's two issues. One is the sequence, and then 2, just the top of the album isn't that strong. And so we.

[A]

That is easily not to cut you off.

[C]

Mark.

[A]

One of the worst starts to an album I've ever heard.

[B]

I don't know what he was doing.

[A]

I don't. It. It ruined my first listening experience. Yeah. And that experience for me is normally a bople listen. I'm listening for bops, Right. And I didn't hear too many of those. 1 and 2. Old Thug used to be able to come on when I was feeling happy, like when I was in a great joyous mood. Some of the content on here. Most of the content on here is really down.

[D]

It's heavy.

[A]

It's really down. But once you get past how horribly sequenced this project is, I had to tip my hat to the youngest there.

[B]

It was hard to get.

[A]

No. Nobody from Atlanta called me. I ain't speak to me. This is just listening to music. Listen Ninja. Not for me. I'mma just go through it. But before you.

[B]

But combined with the album cover, combined with what he did with making all of his. The features on the album, all of his friends look like that. It makes it hard. If this is what you starting, it sets a no. I don't even know what you on this album. I'm off of it. You can get somebody off of it. Just buy all of that.

[C]

True.

[A]

Yuck. King Carson, track two not for me.

[D]

Same.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. On the news. As much as I love that cardi B verse, I don't think the song is so much to write. Right.

[E]

I like that.

[B]

It's cool. I like that one.

[A]

Well, hearing that third off of one and two Being Some, it didn't make me. It didn't make me. Told you. More of the same for me. Whoopty Do, I understood what he was doing. I won't listen to it anymore. And at that point, the album changes for me. Blaming Jesus is sick. Last. Last part. I wanted to come in here and say whatever the record that is after Whoopty do is fire. Actually, I'm playing that here.

[D]

I'll play.

[A]

Okay, yeah, you can play that. Blaming Jesus, I think is sick. Sad Spider, I think is sick. And at this point now. Oh, all right. I see what's going on on.

[D]

You want some Blaming Jesus?

[A]

Give me some Blaming Jesus.

[D]

See, this melodic thug is always better thug for me.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Started off.

[A]

That's Fire. That's fire right there. The bop I'm looking for from Doug. Go to next song. Go to next song. Go to next song. Go to the next song. Go to the next song. Because when he hit the sequence sequencing right, it hit these two songs, they should be together.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I love this song. This is fire. Sad Spider. Anyway, turn it off. I ain't trying to play all of these records. Sad Spider's dope.

[D]

The TI Record is dope. I love that record.

[A]

Into the features. I like the I'm not All the Way Mad at the TI record. I like the Mariah the Scientist record.

[C]

I do too.

[A]

Said that I'm so dope. I don't remember. That one was I'm so Dope. Play I'm so dope. I can't hear this.

[E]

Let's go. Turn me up a little bit, Brody.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

Dog is in his melodic bag. Is going to. It's going to work nine times out of ten.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, man.

[C]

Spider.

[A]

See, but for me, he goes on a run right here. There. I'm so dope into Pardon My Back. I'm never listening to this sexy Red record. That's track 13.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So into the Luchi record. Into the 21 record.

[B]

The Luchi record is amazing.

[C]

Yeah. What up Jesus? Right?

[A]

That record, the second half of this album, with the exception for Me of Revenge. And like I said, that Mariah the Scientist joint. I think this was. No matter how you felt about the music, this was the right album for him to drop. Coming out of Japan jail I changed my entire stance after listening to it. Listening to him, listening to what was heavy on his heart, listening to just. It needed to be like this. My first listen, I thought, all right. His tone, he depressed. I ain't got time for it. After sitting with it, I'm like, oh, you had to do this. This. This was.

[B]

Get it out.

[A]

This was a clonic.

[B]

You had to get it out.

[A]

Yeah, this was. This was for. For the soul. And again, even bigger than that, the. The features, like, these brothers being here for him, like, past the music, just these brothers being here for him while he's going through all this shit. Easily sounds like the last few years been the roughest few years of his life. Like, it was very autobiographic for me. Very autobiographic. Really good project.

[D]

I didn't go back to reanalyze it a ton. I skimmed through it one more time. I still don't think it's great, but there is some shit on here. I said that in the last pod. There's some shit on here.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's more than I thought on there. I'll say that again.

[B]

Overall, it's a good project. Yo, it ain't. It ain't the best, but it ain't terrible.

[D]

It ain't terrible.

[A]

Yeah. I could see how you would be sick to your stomach over the Gun and Thug combination. Never coming back again. Like, if you listen to what Gun is doing on his projects and with this element that Thug is doing, like, I can see how It's a sad day. Florida, Atlanta. I do.

[B]

Fans lost on one side, fans lost on one side. It's a sad day, cuz on the other side for Atlanta again, him and Lucci doing records together. They got a record together on Luchi's album, which is really, really. Lucci's album is really good.

[E]

And I. I about to talk about that already.

[C]

Legend, right?

[B]

Yeah, that's his album. You know, they were in the club together. So on one side, the Atlanta at least seeing some level of. Of unity coming back because them two had the city on fire, apparently. So that is a good thing.

[E]

That's dope.

[D]

Gotta salute that.

[E]

And you gotta realize that a lot of people.

[A]

But I don't like that.

[B]

You don't like it.

[C]

Wait, hold on.

[A]

I mean, I do, but I don't.

[B]

Let me hear.

[E]

Oh, give me a second.

[A]

I think that Thug wants to talk to Gunner. I think that everything about his identity, his network, and his friend group will change if he does. I feel like he's trapped into his Own ideology. Apologies that that he's having to change your heart on.

[B]

But don't know how to say his.

[A]

Whole life would change. So now you kind of see that. So now you're kind of stuck there. Stuck you.

[B]

You made this position.

[C]

Drew the line.

[A]

And that don't feel good.

[B]

Gotta stand there.

[A]

That don't feel good.

[B]

And what it also looks like to me because thug did an interview on a pivot and he was talking about how I still love Gunna Gunna still loves me. But I think at this point, we just gotta go our separate ways. And I when I saw that I had made a joke like, yo, the gunner has been with his separate way.

[A]

But forgiving Lucci and not gonna on. On civilian terms is crazy. That's absolutely nuts. If you can do one, you can do the other.

[B]

Y' all have been through.

[A]

That's where I disconnect a little bit from.

[B]

But we my street, so it could be something different.

[A]

I'm not talking streets. I'm talking hip hop now. I'm talking human now. I mind my business on the street.

[B]

Yeah, but the street. Street, stop it carries more to some of that.

[A]

Oh no.

[B]

A lot of that stupid. But we can say that.

[A]

And I'm saying it. And I'm. And I'm saying it. Forgiveness, my God is a forgiving God. If you've shown the ability to forgive on one front, that means you possess the ability to forgive.

[C]

True.

[B]

But we're speak. I know we speaking as I'm all.

[A]

He ain't never gonna do it, so.

[B]

We ain't gotta go back because there's certain that you can't forgive. And that's their core values and they stand in it. And he's well within his right.

[A]

Have a blast, but have a blast.

[B]

This is where you are.

[A]

You understand?

[E]

No, no, no. It's okay. No, what I'm saying is that I disagree with you, but I understand what you're saying.

[A]

You said it already, though.

[E]

I feel like the message is the messengers and the message is bigger. A bigger statement for Atlanta. Those two coming together. A lot of people lost their lives. It's a lot of situations that happen behind those two. So showing that type of bond on, you know, paves the way for a lot of people to rectify things.

[A]

And I want to say right, like, I understand what y' all are saying. I know plenty of street that have a real healthy respect for people that have tried to kill them.

[E]

Yes, me too.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

Like, I know that exists.

[A]

So I'm not trying to slight that. I just think we should mirror the ability. And they don't think.

[B]

Yeah, they don't. They don't think that.

[A]

And I understand that. That's why I be in my house.

[B]

That's why I stay calm.

[A]

That's why I'd be home. I go to work. Work. I go to the supermarket. I do all types of legal. I open up Uber Eats, pick some suits, like, whatever's legal. I look for legal. Fun ain't legal.

[E]

Fun.

[D]

Legal is nice.

[A]

Legal. Fun is fun.

[B]

Legal is the. I was just saying you're still in there. Come on.

[A]

My bad.

[C]

See your face on the news.

[A]

Do you know I would fear to see your face, son? Ice clearance, bro. That should be right there. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. For you.

[B]

Y' all made me forget what I was about to say, man.

[D]

Did y' all have any thoughts on the performance on the courtroom steps from Doug Symbolic?

[B]

Yeah, I did at first, because, I mean, setup was bad, audio was bad. All that was bad.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

But on the flip side, look, look.

[A]

What. What was bad about the setup?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You said it sounded bad. It wasn't produced well.

[B]

Yeah, that's. Thank you.

[A]

He wasn't rapping the words. I mean, nobody's rapping words. There's nobody rapping the words. Yo, plug me up and play my song. No, he was rapping please. With the word, but please.

[D]

But he was ad lib.

[B]

Somebody did point out. Somebody did point out to me, though, that when he got released, part of the conditions was he had to do certain things for.

[A]

I was about to tell you.

[B]

And I'm like, I was about to.

[A]

Tell you that now. Salute. That's why he's there.

[B]

Yeah. Now.

[C]

Salute.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

Once I saw it when you hit the group chat and said, yo, Young Thug is performing in front of the courthouse. It made it sound like. Like it was some rogue takeover of the court out, like. Like a purge.

[B]

That's how. That's how they put it out.

[A]

Once I saw it. I saw it at the courthouse. People were working this event. I'm like, okay, agreement. Part of the conditions. Bring your ass back here and put on a show.

[B]

The way it was put out, he put a tweet and was like, yo, Atlanta, meet me here, four o', clock, and just put the address.

[A]

I be getting got, man.

[B]

I'm not getting got. I'm just saying, this is what happened, so. And then he puts the flyer up saying, okay, and it's the courthouse. But then once I saw they had it barricaded and security and all of this. I said, okay, this is a thing here.

[E]

Was it a good turnout?

[A]

Freeze.

[B]

Yeah, it was a decent turnout for some spur of the moment shit that people didn't know. Well, his people knew, but the average fan didn't know about.

[A]

That's fire, man. When I see certain stories like, it brings me back to my childhood in hip hop pop, right? It's fire to just imagine if that's your favorite rapper or, like, and you grew up listening in Jersey city in. In 96 or whatever year it was. It was a big deal when Big Pun came up to Jackson Avenue and did Winnie's. Some of the people outside would know about that. I stalked every event that one of them was at with no club clothes, you know, you're not understanding me. I look like the nigga that shouldn't have been there. So to be able to go to a courthouse and get this whole performance from Thug, I love that. I love them negotiating that as part of his fucking freedom. Freedom fighters.

[B]

Hey, dog, it was a dude on Twitter. He was at the Falcons game, and he was like, yo, I'm walking out the game. Game was over about four something. I'm walking out the game, and he. I guess the stadium ain't too far from where the courthouse is. And he's like, yo, I'm walking in my car and I see the post that Thug is doing a concert here, and that's my favorite rapper. Like, that's some fly shit that you just stumble on a free show from Thug from whoever. Whoever it is. It's your favorite rapper for sure. That's fly. So I can't hate on that.

[A]

Also, see, I'm with Thug on the music, but he doing so many interviews and just saying and getting clipped up. This is where. This is where I step off. I step off when they start. I mean, so I'm gonna play this clip. This is Thug on the Pivot giving his opinion on Shout out to the Pivot and shout out to Brandon Marshall. I mean, another. Anyway, yeah, I'm g. Play this. This is Thug giving his opinion on. On therapy on the Pivot. Another show I want to highlight where black men get real therapeutic. Shout out to Ryan, my man. I think Russell Wilson, Corny, Shannon Crowder. Shout out to those boys, man. Shout out to Black T. Shout to Fred Taylor, my guy. I've done that show. Shout out to black Men. Getting therapeutic and vulnerable on some of these shows.

[E]

My big sister, my big brother, my dad, my mom, my OGs.

[C]

I listen to y' all like, it's.

[E]

Really a slap in the face to me if I.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

I just was telling my girl that.

[B]

Like, I don't think you need a therapist.

[E]

I don't think I need a therapist. I feel.

[B]

I feel like.

[E]

I feel like I'm not a man if my girl get a therapist. It's like, damn, you actually have called somebody and listen to what they got to say over me instead of just listening to what I'm telling you. I just feel less of a man, you know, in that there's obviously things that happen through the calls being released.

[C]

That did affect your relationship.

[A]

All right, we don't need that part. What he had to say about therapy is the part that took off. Distinguished panel, how do we feel?

[E]

A lot of us think.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

I just want to ask him, what happens if you're wrong? Like, don't listen to a professional. Listen to me. But what happens if I give you the wrong information or the wrong advice?

[E]

I think it's embedded in us, in the neighborhoods that we grew up in, that therapy is frowned upon. It's not until I came up here, because when I was put into therapy or as a kid, to go speak to somebody, it's based off my behavior.

[A]

But Spofford wasn't therapist.

[E]

I didn't go to Sparfa. Watch your mouth, nigga. What I'm saying is that. So that.

[A]

That. That.

[E]

That is frowned upon. Right. And for women, too, though. No, not women. But he's speaking about himself as well. He did mention initially I don't need a therapist.

[C]

Right. That part I got. You know what? It was for me, because I agreed. You like him saying I don't need a therapist. That's not shocking. It's disappointing. It's not for him. Just for people. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

[D]

I also think it's okay to not.

[A]

Not need.

[D]

Feel like you need therapy. Maybe he does, but maybe he doesn't.

[C]

Feeling like you don't need therapy is different than feeling like therapy isn't needed. Like, in general. And I'm with you. Like, some people, a lot of people feel like they don't need therapy.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And. And neither one of what y' all said is what he said.

[C]

I know. That's my point. So I'm. That's why I was. But when he said he would be disappointed if his girl needed even worse.

[A]

Than disappointed, I would. Wouldn't even feel like a man. I feel like less of a man.

[C]

That's the part that's why I asked about. That's what stuck. That's what stuck up for me. That's why I said it for women. Because it's like, if he just said for himself, okay, that wouldn't even be newsworthy. But part of what I thought is that a lot of times in our communities, we've thought that therapy compromises our masculinity. So I would have thought he would have been fine with a girl going even just on some patriarchy.

[E]

But that still falls on the line. That falls on the line of him. Like, I'm the man. You should be able to come and talk to me about anything. And let's work through it.

[C]

You don't need to go to a professional. I'm with you. I'm just saying that was a new spin I hadn't heard. And then to Ice's point, that suggests to me that people don't know what therapy actually is or does. Cause if you think therapy is just being a listening ear or giving good advice, then, yeah, I can see you. I don't want this other nigga to give you therapy. I can give you therapy, girl. Right. Cause I'm your man. I can do this for you. But if people understood what talk therapy is and the layers that it unpacks and the fact that it's a skill that you need training, trained professionals.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

You wouldn't feel like less of a man any more than you feel like less of a man if your girl went to see a foot doctor or a heart doctor or mechanic.

[B]

Right.

[C]

You wouldn't be like, I feel like less of a man.

[A]

I couldn't fix your card, so I.

[B]

Don'T know what the I'm doing under the engine, but let me do it and take it to a professional.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Why would you listen to another person and not listen to me?

[D]

Because this might have nothing to do with you.

[B]

Or you might not talk to you about. You just might not be equipped to deal with it. That might can't help me with what I need.

[D]

What if.

[A]

Hold up, Park. Even that adds some of what a manly man's opinion might. Might be. She might be going to therapy to get a better understanding of things going on in her life outside of you. Right, Right. Like, see, and that's the other part. Men be thinking that they are their partner's whole existence.

[B]

There is no life outside of me.

[A]

She could be going to therap and not her. Let me take it off them. But people could be going to therapy to figure out life without you.

[B]

Like, people could be Going to therapy to unpack some that happened when they were a.

[A]

Before we met you. Some childhood trauma. My parents. Hey, I'm noticing that. How I'm responding to you in this house ain't of a certain nature. These are not things that you should go and speak to your man about at all. He's off. Yeah, right. He's off.

[B]

A professional. Somebody who they. Like you said, they are trained to deal with this. That's who you want to talk to.

[A]

Let me tell you something, doggy. And I'm saying this. I don't know how much experience y' all got. I done been to every therapist there is.

[C]

The.

[A]

The couple's therapist, that last couple's therapy we went to. And I. I say it all the time. She was so. She was trained, licensed. You could tell she had a gazillion years of experience. My girl found her on Google because she did one of the TV shows that we like. We was watching one of the shits on Netflix.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

She liked the therapist. She looked her up. Her price said, I'm on Netflix, giving therapy, and I'm good at this. So we went. She kept that shit so brief. It was so fast. It was one hour, and we left there and got it together. Got it. We left there and got it together. She was a little too honest with.

[B]

Us, but that's what a professional could do.

[A]

She's there to say, hey, you got a problem with this? He's going to keep doing that. If you love him, what are you doing? Hey, you're hurting her. If you love her, you're wasting my time. But I got it because I'm 900 an hour. Like, we can talk through. Through this, but this is going to keep happening with him, and it's going to keep happening with her. Now what? See, a lot of therapy is just getting you out of your own. Just whatever justifications and rationalizations you made up in your mind and your brain. There was a part in that therapy where I was like, hey, no, stop. Don't you tell her that I love her. She's sitting there being too honest. He feels like this. That's why he's doing this. Shut your. We gonna be together. So therapy, it gets tough. It gets tough, and it's tough for people to hold that mirror up, but it's preventative in a lot of ways and helpful in a lot of ways. I'm not gonna teen summit us out here, but his voice is so loud and powerful. It's sad when that's what comes from it. And then you hear his album and it sound like nothing but a man that needs fucking therapy.

[E]

But that's his therapy. That's his way.

[A]

That's not therapy. That's not therapy. Let's have that talking back.

[C]

You just hit the nail.

[A]

Let's have that talk.

[C]

And we got to stop because we said everybody does that. That's my therapy. No, it's not. That's just an activity you do oftentimes to get away from the work that therapy would actually have you do. Oh, shooting pool is my therapy. Oh, drinking is my therapy. Church is my therapy.

[A]

And so.

[C]

And so is my therapy. Nah.

[E]

Well, it makes you calmer. It takes your anxiety down. When you do things that you like or comfortable. If, when, when you speak about something without speaking to someone and you speak about something and you're able to get your emotions out, your anxiety comes down, you start to feel more comfortable and.

[A]

Back to who you were.

[B]

So that's your mind, that's your coping mechanism.

[A]

Alright, so therapy is the wrong.

[E]

My coping mechanism.

[C]

But the problem is because.

[A]

Which is the antithesis of the therapy.

[C]

Right.

[A]

However you self medicate.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

However you bandage yourself before you present to the world, that's not therapy. That's just how you surviving out here.

[B]

Yeah, you're getting by.

[C]

Yeah. And Thug need therapy.

[A]

And a lot of times where we come from, we can't afford therapy. Like my mom was a therapy nut, so I'm a weirdo in this case. And me and my brother was fucking her in that house. Not physically, but we was driving her. So she had to find alternative routes to deal with different children. Yeah, she was, we were, I was creative figuring out how to fuck shit up. So you had to find alternative routes. Everybody don't do that. But if you listen to Thug's bank interview, like bank is doing the therapy. Yeah, yeah, he was. And you saying, yo, I saw my brother die when I was. I held him in my arms. Whatever that story was where you was 3, 4, 5 years old, that's where it starts, right? Niggas don't be knowing that. Cause we think it's normal. I thought it was normal. Yo, my gun. My brother put a gun in my head when I was 10. What's going on in your house? You don't know what that does. You don't know that that act at 10 is going to have an effect on you at 18, 19, 20, 30, 40, your rest of your life. I'm holding the broadcast, Aussie now because I'm a big therapy head. But that it Just bothered me because again, like, like always say our. Our rappers and our athletes shouldn't. They did this. There are rappers and our athletes and our entertainers for a reason. Like, once we get them to start talking about how we should be living. Mute the mics.

[D]

It's important to be aware of the power of your impact.

[A]

Mute the fucking microphones. You out there disseminating just wrong shit. I told Corey last week, I'm at the bar at fucking Capital Grill. They asked me, yo, you want some bread? I say, nah, I'm cool. I don't need. I don't need no bread. The lady next to me is a packed bar at lunchtime lady next to me, I say, I'm trying to watch my carbs and my diet because I'm getting fat and they don't send me the bread. And the lady next to me who's on a laptop doing some work, she says, hey, just want to let you know, it's not the bread that gets you fat. Bread don't get you fat. She said, it's American bread. She said, I'm home making sourdough bread. I've been all over the world and had bread. It's only here that the. That's doing that to you.

[C]

And.

[A]

And this whole. I forgot why I brought that up, but this whole therapy with thug, you deprive yourself of the wealth of knowledge that humans have to give. You just don't know it. All right?

[B]

And the bad side, like, I. My own thug, because he was tweeting over the last couple days, and I think he acknowledges he needs therapy, but he tweeted, a therapist can't heal this shit. Like, he believe he's so damaged that.

[D]

Maybe not heal, but it can help you deal with, cope, help you get.

[B]

To a point where, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's like, what do you say to a person that feels like, I'm not anti therapy, but I'm so up that a therapist can't even do nothing with me?

[E]

And a lot of times you be. A lot of times you be shy or to even. Or embarrassed to even express yourself to somebody. It's not just as black masculinity part. It's not as black as white as you making this. See, you said that it was instilled in you from a young child. It's not as black and white to sit down and talk across somebody to tell them your business. No, you were saying that I'm a therapy head. You said my mom had to find.

[A]

I said my mom was a therapy head. Because she had to find alternative routes to deal with wild kids. Got it.

[E]

And then did that not trickle down to you of why you feel like therapy's okay by your mom going to it?

[B]

I'll get what he said.

[A]

I'm not even saying my mom went to it. Or did you go. We was wilding, so she had to just try. Shit. Was. Were we so accepting of it early on? No. If that's what you asking.

[B]

Got it.

[E]

But what I'm saying is.

[A]

But she introduced it very early and we got to. We came to grips with it. Therapy, psychiatrist, psychologists, all of the medical shit.

[E]

It become embarrassing to sit across where you can feel embarrassing masculinity, to tell somebody your business like that. Like it's a slow pace. I remember.

[A]

See, that's why we gotta fix it. But you'll shoot somebody.

[D]

A lot of times I remember speaking.

[E]

To somebody as a kid.

[A]

We embarrassed about that, but we'll shoot somebody.

[E]

I remember speaking to somebody as a kid. Right. And whatever I shared with them was used against me. Basically. That can cause trauma. That can say, I'm not speaking to a therapist because I didn't go there to speak to somebody to get reprimanded. I went there. It was painted to me that you come speak to me. You come speak. And this is off the record, but when my mother found out, or whatever you told my mom, however crazy it is, then I got reprimanded for it. So.

[B]

So you don't. You have a. It's a trust thing.

[E]

So then. Now I don't want to. So then. Now that can pass on. Of course, now that I'm trying it, it's different. Being up here is different. But I also understand people not wanting to share their business with somebody else.

[A]

Flip. We can understand all of it. I'm using my voice.

[E]

Got it.

[A]

And my platform, to tell black brothers like you, Black brothers like Thug, and black brothers like Ish.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That's that there's trauma. Keeping black people away from therapy. It's like the resentment. It's like pissing on yourself. And the resentment is hurting nobody but you. Got it. Therapy is for the people that have been beat down to the beat down. Like there's still some work you have to do. You have to ignite. Therapy is for the people that are sick and tired of what's going. Sick and tired of being sick and tired.

[C]

They're just sick.

[A]

They're ready to try something. You have to be willing to submit. See, that's the thing. Ain't willing to submit. Y' all willing to go through all that you're going through and get up, dust yourself off, and go fight for more. No, you had to be willing to submit. Yo, y' all won. Y' all did it. My thinking it up, my how I. My ideologies, how I was raised, my family, my best friend, my girl. See, that's the thing about him. He ain't even honest with his girl. So you're not honest with your girl? I forced to believe you're not honest with your parents. You're not honest to your fan base. Who the are you honest with? I think black men got to start having some real uncomfortable conversations with themselves. We started this part with holding a mirror up and. And having that moment of reflection. And you need to do that before y' all get on microphones.

[B]

And to your point, Joe, you said it don't hurt nobody but yourself. That's not true because you'll be so up that you start hurting your loved ones and don't even realize.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you are. It ain't just hurting you. It's hurting the people around you because you don't just get help.

[A]

Doug and anybody else out there that might need therapy. I'm praying for y'. All. I love you guys. There's a community of people that loves you guys. Wallow. Tried to give them some therapy. Like there's people out there. There's a community out there that's gonna try and give it to you, that's gonna try and love you in spite of what you got going on. I'd like to always remain in that community. I'm praying for y' all brothers out there. I hope one day y' all get it together.

[D]

Indeed.

[A]

With that said, we have my favorite part of the show, Prize picks. All right, this episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. Many of you out there are wondering, what is Prize Picks? What is it we're here to tell you? Listen, you and I make decisions every day. But on Prize picks, being right can get you paid. Don't miss out on any of the excitement this football season on prize picks, where it's good to be right. Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less on at least two players, stat projections for your chance to win big time money. Prize Picks now offers stacks, meaning you can pick the same player up to three times in the same lineup. Want to pick more on Josh Allen's pass, yard, rush, yards and touchdowns? Now you can pick all of them in the same lineup only on Prize picks. So let's give our Joe and ice picks of the week. We are going with. There's a Goblin play for Brock Purdy for more than 0.5 passing touchdowns.

[B]

Easy play.

[A]

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[C]

I want to dive into why money is here.

[B]

Damn.

[E]

Hi, Mark.

[A]

Oh, hello.

[C]

My dad flirting.

[A]

That's not a flirt on that one.

[C]

It's. It's desperation. I. I understand you so much better now, Joe Button, when I was. First of all, congratulations to you for winning Potter of the month for a second time.

[A]

Congratulations back to back month. It's a big deal. It's a big deal, you guys.

[C]

No, it is a big deal.

[A]

It's a really big deal. They made. They made the award matter her again.

[E]

Well, he won again.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, that surprises you?

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Surprised me. Wow.

[C]

Me too.

[A]

I was shocked. Oh, everybody.

[C]

Now I know how you felt when I was winning him.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Yeah, I get it now. Honest to God, I get it. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Don't diminish my win.

[A]

We've been killing it.

[E]

How many mans you did? I mean, cuz he kind of helped you by saying, you know, like, yo.

[A]

He been bodying it and all that.

[E]

He kind of threw the alley. I think that.

[C]

No, I think he campaigned. I want y' all ever say I campaign again. This got campaign campaign slogans, videos, outfits, wardrobe.

[E]

You use me in the picture too.

[C]

You suck ass.

[E]

You do what you got to do. You use me in a picture. Which picture? About me being on my phone. Me and Mona. I ain't like that. I say that. Oh, thank you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Thank you for the example.

[A]

But yeah, I don't think you need to highlight the crew's shortcomings when you're on your.

[C]

We never did that.

[E]

Have you never seen a campaign? Nah, we never saw that.

[C]

Well, no, because we never campaigned. Podcast step your game up, but we never campaigned for. We just did it on talent.

[E]

We'll step your game up. That's not how you win elections.

[A]

And know what? Listen, Congratulations.

[E]

Thank you.

[C]

Proud of you, buddy.

[B]

Congratulations.

[A]

Step one. Congratulations. But just so we're clear, why I don't campaign is because that would muddy the waters. It would.

[E]

Okay. Because niggas got a lot of power. Boy, I feel sorry for you.

[C]

I never campaigned.

[A]

So if all of us campaigned, like.

[E]

Anyway, the whole of night school was over you.

[A]

Congratulations to Amani.

[C]

Congratulations to you. I'm happy for you.

[B]

Congrats, dog.

[E]

Yo, wait, let me talk to you real quick.

[A]

This award just hasn't meant the same in at least six months.

[E]

I, I, I, I love how y' all diminishing when I.

[A]

That's crazy.

[E]

Because of your influence, Mark. Like, they had to change up the voting system because you were so influential. They had to change up.

[C]

A lot of people were voting for me.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no, no. We know night school and all that. I really.

[C]

You're just peddling conspiracy theories now.

[E]

I did a deep dive into you.

[C]

No, you. Whoa. I know we don't say pause anymore, but that was crazy.

[E]

I did a deep dive and they changed it when I highlighted that. They changed it, but there's a lot of fun.

[A]

You think you potted good enough to win?

[E]

I think I am. I think not me. Do I think I potted good enough to win?

[A]

I'm not trying to be funny.

[E]

I think the last episode was great. I think one episode should get you.

[A]

Make some noise for that.

[C]

For me.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

That's a solid day. How are they work?

[E]

Hey, I got you.

[A]

Hey, yo.

[E]

Hey, yo.

[C]

One shift, right?

[E]

You supposed to be the leader. And you supposed to lead and teach and help your, you know, your counterparts be better.

[A]

Yes. Yo, check this out. If you are part of the audience and you think I'm a leader.

[E]

Say six months leave.

[A]

Nah, this ain't the place. Don't stay here because you think I do a great job at leading. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. Actually, I think that's a large part of why a lot of y' all stay here. Y' all know it's gonna be a blunder sooner or later. Joe can't leave. Let's just stick around. Anywho, congratulations again. Shout out to you, Amani.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Out. Absol. Absolutely. Well, I guess we can't start an ABSOL conversation without having a kai. Snack conversation. Yeah.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Kaisernad is doing one of the things that he be doing.

[B]

Mafia Thon three.

[A]

Mafia Mafia Thon three.

[B]

The last boy Final One.

[A]

This is the final one. And this was. This is supposed to get him to a million subs. I know. I'm just telling that that was the goal of the thing, to get him to a million subs. He's hit a million subs. But what I loved about this one is it looked a lot more hip hop centered.

[D]

It did.

[A]

So one of the things they did was have the people come up there and. And do freestyles on the radar. They partnered with on the radar, shout out to gab that that red backdrop is sick. And they had people come up there to rap long before Absol got up there. I wanted to highlight this segment because one of the dudes who I just thought was a streamer is not a streamer. Ben the Don.

[B]

Yeah. Went crazy.

[A]

I'm sure I have it saved here somewhere. I'm sure I do.

[D]

There's a couple good freestyles sessions do.

[E]

From Jersey.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Dude from Jersey Smoke.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, the Jersey dude.

[E]

Yeah, something like that.

[A]

He ate Ben to Don. Can't fool me. You not a streamer. You're a rapper. He went absolutely nuts on there. He's been one of my favorite freestyles I've heard in a long time. That guy's a rapper, y'. All. Stop tricking me with this streamer.

[B]

Find another way, bro.

[A]

That guy is a mistake. He rats.

[B]

He went crazy, though. He.

[E]

I feel bad. I ain't hear it.

[A]

I'm gonna find it.

[D]

Chris. Chris Patrick is.

[E]

Chris Patrick is the guy from Jersey.

[D]

He absolutely smoked it over the man in the Garden beat. Yeah, I'll give a little bit of that while you look for that.

[C]

List.

[E]

Listen to a voicemail every day for.

[C]

15 months because that fear of granny.

[E]

Leaving is some I can't accept Got a job in keep the dream because.

[C]

The truth is rope was never linear for someone reaching for success Body breaking hobsy tell my sleep cause my anxiety too deep I need a win before I leak out the stress I spoke to God and asked him why me?

[A]

His response is hold it down.

[C]

Just trust the process and continue with.

[E]

Your quit but me not quitting, it's.

[C]

The reason why a Jersey gets to.

[E]

Show the world out here feels so.

[C]

Surreal Used to watch your streams when streams of income couldn't hold the bills Baby powder M for water Water was my only meal Back when labels used to call it sin Never closed the.

[E]

Deal Back against the wall I eat.

[C]

My all on days I slowly heal out of all my rights to clear the voices I don't want to feel.

[E]

Addiction in my blood look as nugget till my stomach healed Incendiary drugs keep.

[C]

Me numb to things I want to.

[A]

Kill we got it he went crazy.

[E]

Looking at my ego so much I.

[A]

Had to up and kill he smoked.

[E]

For myself about them days that I felt unfulfilled but here I am sitting on a stream with David God I.

[D]

Deserve it Only he went crazy yeah, yeah, Chris Patrick.

[B]

His name yeah, I gotta look him up.

[A]

Anybody from Jersey, I'm shouting now. Big Jersey shout out to Chris Patrick. You absolutely smoked that freestyle. Good luck to you in all your endeavors. This has been the dawn A million.

[C]

Subs on the way Nigga smoke hey.

[B]

I don't like to brag but it today I'mma get on they ass I've been having cash I do not smoke Reggie I ain't missing my dad and.

[A]

I all but it I'm on it.

[B]

Them been trolling I know they don't want that Pull up with your whole way he thinking I'm thirsty no throwback, no cap see how I'm living I stay in the pants I flow in my building he know I don't feel him been biting my style for years.

[C]

He'S stealing cause how he got m.

[B]

He 30 and chilling we really no different My caught bodies I wouldn't made.

[A]

A killing I need some that's hard.

[E]

I see what you mean now yeah.

[A]

He a rapper he ain't no, he ain't a street listen to him he heat up as he keep going.

[C]

I'm.

[E]

Still lit boy you pee Back in.

[B]

High school last they tried me I flew at his made up blow me like hot food I'm having that paint for real without that pranking I told her I'm not dude I tell her the truth I ain't you lying to.

[A]

Hit little buddy that's not cool he remind me of early young money like remember when the Big Sean metaphor took off? Yeah I made your blow me like hot food Change the beat on these hold up Change the beat on these.

[B]

But I don't think I'm going to.

[C]

Find it Autumn times I spent with.

[B]

Her Sometimes I wish could rewind it.

[C]

I go by D I'm in the bed with the mafia she want to suck it while I stream I told.

[B]

The baby was stopping you we the.

[A]

Ones oh no he flowing he ain't.

[B]

No streaming no I said I want a bad but then I hit now I'm off can't complain I had to take that L and charge it to.

[C]

The gang all that shit I went.

[B]

Through swear to God Was worth the pain Clutching on my fire Gonna take some time Adjusting to this fame had to bust it down But I can't lie like my pet.

[E]

I love that, though.

[A]

I'm cutting this off. Hey, Benadon. You ain't fooling me, dog. Hey, you could be over there doing all of that streamer. University. Young nigga. I'm doing a cartwheel backflip. I show speed. Michael Rudolph. What's homeboy? Michael Rubin.

[D]

I know Michael Rudolph.

[A]

Shout out to Ben, man. What up, boy? You a rapper, dog. Dog. Yeah, that's fine. And a damn good one.

[C]

He found a way.

[A]

Yeah. I have a whole new outlook. Yeah, I don't really respect nigga.

[C]

I know.

[A]

No, seriously, that's what I realized about myself. Like, because of where I come from and where my teachings come from, I don't respect you depending on where you got your teachings from. How I view him. From streamer to mc. It's totally different now. Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

What was the problem with the streamer?

[A]

There is no problem with it. But move. Why? Because. Just move. There's nothing wrong. Don't try to make it be something bad.

[B]

But I'm not. I'm just trying to understand.

[A]

It's from a different era. It's from a different generation. It's just like, how.

[B]

Okay, it's just old.

[A]

My mom, perfect example. My mom, who if I tell you her age, she'll kill us all.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, don't do that.

[B]

Please don't do.

[A]

But she is a lot hipper than most people her age. So she was telling me she'd be talking to young people. I was having to talk with some people, and they was telling me about some lingo that came from your podcast and then some other lingo about something called chat, chat, chat. Like, I don't understand. And I was like, mom, the chat lingo is for a younger demo and people that are. I used my brother Ethan to answer Stephanie. The people that have the headphones on and the gamer seats and they're on the game, they're talking to people, they're interactive. That's where that comes from. This other shit you saying is from people around my age. Like, there is separatism in where you learn some of this. So if you tell me you a streamer, awesome, Cool. Good luck.

[B]

I support.

[A]

You get money. Y' all getting it. But stay over there. If you tell me you an mc.

[B]

You look at a different eye.

[A]

You're communicating something differently.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

You're telling somebody else something different.

[B]

So it's not dismissing.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, now I get it.

[E]

Now explain everything that you say to.

[A]

Somebody on this earth. You're communicating something, whether you know it or not.

[B]

That's like us saying if you tell somebody you're a podcaster.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That could come off a certain way. Podcaster.

[C]

I don't say.

[A]

I don't say I'm a podcast. I never say that. Never.

[B]

What?

[A]

You are a broadcaster. A broadcast broadcaster, for sure. Don't put no ceiling on me. Some of the talks I'm having behind the scenes ain't no podcast talk. It's broadcast, big boy shit. Don't podcast me. I was there in the beginning. Combat Jack, all of that. Rest in peace. We in a different game now. Don't call me no podcast.

[C]

Right. Cause we move in different places now.

[A]

Yeah. Most of the podcasters feel like that you don't move in just podcast spaces. I don't know if you're making a joke or not.

[C]

No, I'm just saying, wherever you go in them big boys. I'm just saying, saying plural, we out.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. You talking about.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Why y' all laughing?

[E]

I like the term entertainer.

[A]

Cuz you. You more.

[E]

Well, no, I think all of us. All of us are. All of us are at this point.

[C]

But you're also a potter.

[B]

But it depends on who you're talking to.

[C]

Month.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That could also come off away, though. Why you tell somebody I'm an entertainer?

[A]

I would never say that.

[B]

I would.

[D]

I say I work in entertainment.

[E]

You don't.

[A]

You don't even that anymore.

[C]

Yeah, but E is an active entertainment.

[A]

Even though my job is to entertain.

[C]

Yeah. That's interesting.

[A]

Someone who's unfamiliar and they say, what do you do? I'm not saying I'm an entertainer. It don't tell them what I needed to tell them.

[C]

But I think for you, it works because you're an artist and you're still performing and you're still doing live.

[A]

I mean, well, then I would say I'm artist.

[C]

And that's your gifts. Oh, that's. That's.

[A]

That's a good thing. I'm an artist.

[C]

Okay. That's why I said I like that better for you.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Entertainment is blurry.

[C]

Right. And people. People.

[A]

People want to ask more questions.

[C]

Yeah. What are you doing? They can kind of take you short for that, like. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I feel that.

[A]

Exactly what was I talking about?

[D]

We were talking about.

[E]

We talking about Kai.

[A]

Yeah. Oh. So congratulations to Kai.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And everyone on Team Kai. The whole amp Team y' all hit. Y' all go. Let me, let me hit the button.

[E]

Shout out to y'.

[A]

All. And every time y' all do one of these mafia thawing marathons that hit and everything that comes from it. I love. I love Drewy and Kevin.

[E]

That was hilarious.

[A]

Yo, that was thick. Well, look at me. Ju.

[E]

Juicy.

[A]

She was. I enlarged the screen. Sometimes you stream a she was dick. Then I seen a face was like, I pod. I'm choking. She had body. She had body.

[E]

Stop.

[A]

Nobody your fault.

[B]

Just him.

[A]

Well, he's the only one single.

[B]

Oh, that's true.

[A]

Correct. And he's mad at that. Yeah, see, but just cuz of that though, I'mma propose and shut him up.

[E]

A lot of people feel like y' all lost that conversation, so.

[A]

That a bunch of idiots. Oh, a bunch of absolute ass.

[E]

Cool.

[A]

Yo, in case you don't know this about me, seriously, we've known each other a long time. A million people saying the opposite of what I'm saying.

[B]

Don't do it.

[A]

Don't deter me. I stay on my toy. That's what makes me a little. I think that all those people were retarded too. For the people at home that don't know what we're talking about, Imani was saying, if you're not married, everything else is in the same boat. Whether that be single, actively dating, long term relationship. Relationship. You don't live with your girl. Everything that's not marriage is under the same boat. While I do understand the premise, I don't agree with it. I'm not passionate enough to fight about it.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

But I'm not mad at nobody. That I'm not mad at nobody.

[B]

Yeah, and think whatever y' all want to think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't got to do with my life. I don't care.

[A]

Yeah. Listen, my girl hit me this morning. What she said, I think we was trying to role play, but it was a trick.

[C]

Fell off it.

[A]

She tricked me. See, with Imani, she must have seen the part. Actually, she set me up cuz she text me talking about I can't wait to see this marriage rest single life conversation I was having. So I hit her and said the fans is gassing. It's not. It's not. She said. Wait, wait, wait.

[C]

She said that?

[A]

That's it. If you send me a. I don't. I'm not. I'm done with the talk now. I'm not playing with you anyway. I'm not playing anyway. She said eight. Eight o' clock this morning. Hello. Good morning. It's me, your girlfriend, girlfriend. I said, oh, hey, what's your name, sexy? Right.

[D]

Okay, see you up, girlfriend.

[E]

You missed it, girlfriend.

[B]

As in we ain't married. I'm. I'm missed it. I saw. Yeah, you missed it.

[D]

Carry on.

[A]

Go ahead. See, I took it as. Yeah, see, she been beefing on Sundays because she beefed yesterday. Sunday is football. Move. So she's saying, hey, we ain't supposed to joke. It's me, your girlfriend. I didn't take it like y' all taking it. So I said, oh, I try to be playful. What's your name, sexy? It was a trap.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You missed the first kid.

[A]

Yeah, right from. The first thing she said was, whatever you wanted to be, daddy. And I was like, hey. And then she said, But I prefer Ms. Button, dumbass. That's what you're gonna bro.

[E]

That's right, Shade.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. Wait, but this how off I am.

[B]

No, he didn't. I said, no, he didn't.

[A]

Oh, we role playing. I said, hey, Ms. Button.

[D]

Oh, my God, what's up with your man?

[A]

Shut the out, Cory. I said, I'm slow. I didn't know. I didn't know that Cory ain't. I didn't know. I'm like, oh, try to hide that, homie.

[C]

Yeah, that's your problem.

[A]

No way. Yo, hey, this Button. Hey, girl.

[E]

But she said after that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I can't read no more.

[B]

How many. How many lines?

[A]

The fact it gotta be role playing is crazy. There it go.

[C]

Got him.

[B]

Look, unplug the phone.

[A]

See? Oh, shit. Wait. Nah. Time out. We back to the Bronx. Back to the Bronx while I'm on this freestyle shit. And we were supposed to be talking about absol. But hold up to the. That actually freestyled. Them High Bridge Boys went up there, too. And I really love that Don Q freestyle, which I thought I had queued up, but barely. It's not Don Q. Oh, here we go. Let's go. Yo, let me tell you something.

[B]

Yeah, I love.

[A]

Listen to me, listen to me, listen to me. Any nigga that comes from where we come from, that record raps. If they rap when they hear Fantasia. When I see you, a few things are gonna happen. One, they're gonna get really excited to deliver some bars over this. And two, they've killed people. That's one of the other. They've killed. No, no, it's true. Your brain to rap about, like, drugs and street shit and murder over the Fantasia. When I see you, you. They did it and got away and Got got away. I'm not putting on Don Q on a shout out to Don. You Don, you went crazy on this. That's my guy. Boy, boy, boy. But I'm going play a little bit. See what I mean?

[B]

We have bridge. You know what it is.

[A]

See, look even how you sound. Yeah. And then we'll get to Absol. Who didn't have the most the most pleasurable out shouting Bury my right hand.

[B]

I ain't been the same since had to lock in like King James Saint six on some renegade I don't entertain dis records with I don't never share stage with I'm trying to find out what I mix my lemonade with Adderalls back and raw about to hit the day shift trapping.

[D]

See, I like that.

[A]

Let me pause this.

[D]

I like that juxtaposition.

[A]

Let me pause this.

[D]

I love the juxtaposition of street rhymes over some happy son.

[A]

And when we say street rhymes, not to bring it full circle. If you listen to the rest of this verse, he needs therapy. We talk about that need therapy and acknowledge it over a good sounding beat. And it works.

[B]

It's on some afraid down to my last pounds it's two plates makes cash in the suitcase Took a two day trip came back with some some packs made a few plays Flip gotta hustle I ain't with none of that new age just getting high in the crib playing 2k broke cause they slouching I gave hope when they was doubting Jesus to the hood turn the grandma coke into a mountain I seen death I ain't ashamed to go to counseling. Bro, don't kill for free. You think he'll do for 40,000?

[A]

Yo, dog, yo.

[E]

Yeah, he going crazy.

[A]

I done seen death but I ain't afraid to go to counseling. Broden kill for free. You think he'll do for 40,000? Thousand? Stop playing with Jonathan Q. I don't know because not enough people know. Like if you're in New York, if you in the Bronx, I feel like Don Q for me gives like Freddie gives. I'm not Freddie gives. Fred the godson. Thank you recipes. He got some of that to me. Yeah, like that was crazy. Anyway, back to Absol. Absol went up there and shit to be bed.

[B]

He did pretty much.

[D]

He did.

[A]

Absol went up there absolute to bed. Even if you love Absol, there's no way to pretty this up.

[D]

I think we all love absolute.

[A]

But I am going to do my. I'm going to do my best.

[B]

Okay, I hated this.

[D]

Let's hear It. Let's hear it.

[A]

Let's hear it, man. Solo. I'm so sad this happened. Over this beat too.

[B]

I'm sad this happened.

[A]

Crazy platform on the stage and this platform. You're absolutely right about that. Yo, Jitty, what's happening, man? Thank you, Fresh Lord. Pause this, pause this. I'm sorry. I'm a rapper.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[E]

Can't.

[A]

How he sound coming in right let you know he wasn't ready.

[B]

He was not.

[A]

Something bad is about to happen. Yeah, he don't sound as confident as he's supposed to. His shout outs, we assume he shout out somebody he loved. His voice, his tonality, his projection is not where it need to be be for Absol underground, legendary mc to be on mainstream ass Kaiat stream, which. This was an odd appearance to me. If you're not. If you're not gonna kill it, right? If you're not gonna kill it, you shouldn't have been there.

[C]

Don't do it, right.

[B]

It seemed like he went there really trying to freestyle. Like, I didn't have like, a lot of. We know freestyles are now pre.

[D]

Let's hear a little bit.

[A]

Come on, do it.

[B]

I'm just a vessel. I told you that.

[A]

That's too soon for you to even up.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's too fast for you to up. It's like you said half a bar and you started up. Yo, if you're unfamiliar with Absol, this is not the MC. He is. I've known Absol for over 10 years now. Rapped with him.

[B]

He gets busy.

[A]

He's good. Very good. Him on this beat, on this platform form. I see the play. This was gonna go.

[B]

Supposed to be a moment.

[E]

When I saw it and I heard the beat and I saw him, I was like, all right, this is going to be the one that stands out the most in all these freestyles.

[A]

But if I have to just. If I have to just speculate, though, If I have to speculate, this opportunity was so big for him that he wrote something for sure.

[E]

I just.

[A]

It's the only way that this happened. He has Absol has all his verses memorized. He ain't go up there with a memorized verse and forget it. He wrote something trying to get something off like the MCs be doing and didn't remember it.

[B]

That's what.

[E]

That's what it sound like and didn't remember.

[D]

And if you stumble that early, that shit fucks up. You don't know it.

[A]

Because when you get up there, there's no way for the casual listener. There's no way to practice this. You can't practice it when you write it and say it in your room. You have it. You can't. You can't reenact real time platform. Everybody's in the room and it's not muscle memory anymore.

[D]

And for someone like him that uses a lot of different pockets and tones and shit like that flows that should be hard to fucking. Sometimes you need the styles P. Jadakiss kind of simpler rhyme scheme in these situations.

[A]

That's the other reason that makes me think that he wrote something. Something specifically for this. Because this ain't even a beat that the rapper picks to go in. You have to have wrote to this beat.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You can't just rap to this beat. I have a million verses. If you put this beat on right now, I'mma sound like this. Right. You have to write to this. I think he wrote to this. It wasn't memorized. Horrible outing. He did own it later. But let's hear some more of this. I sound like Ice on Jeezy.

[B]

I'm composing this in oxygen.

[A]

I wanted to hear that Oxygen bar there.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Legal tender bender.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It was over.

[D]

It was over from the same.

[A]

No, no, keep it playing. Keep it bl. Keep it blank. Hurts their head. Keep it playing. Damn. Yo, I want to commend Kai and them with how patient they were. They were patient. They wanted him to get some bars off. Yeah. Which is funny, cuz Kai so that don't know a about rap.

[D]

See, in my opinion, they should have stepped in and just started talking like, yo, yo, we got to bring that back. You know, they could have. They could have eased this point.

[C]

He should have just.

[E]

He should have just joint. He already had memorized at that point.

[D]

I would have been like. Once he up in bar two, I be like, no, no, no, no, no. We bringing that back. We bringing that back.

[A]

That's when you say change the beat or that. But see the other back. I'm not letting y' all do this.

[C]

Hold up.

[A]

We on K. That's when the showmanship.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Comes in out. Master of ceremony. I'm not mad at Kai and his homeboy. You ain't real rap fans.

[B]

But y. I'm not going to do that.

[A]

Too. He kat didn't know w 3 months ago.

[C]

So I'm not about to sit here.

[A]

And say he's the guy that will know. And he caught on seven minutes too late. Four minutes.

[D]

I would expect a gabe to step in here because he does this.

[B]

But the other thing is they don't be a lot of them freestyles. Like when they go on flex on the radar.

[D]

All of those it be performances for.

[B]

Right. And not just that they punch. They go back like this is live real time. He don't do this often.

[E]

N. We can't. I'm not.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm not. Ab. Ab went up to that. That power 106 and went absolutely nuts. He goes nuts.

[B]

But those be. I'm telling you. I've spoken to the producers of a lot of them freestyles. They don't be one take when they do though.

[A]

It shouldn't have to be.

[B]

I'm not. So I'm just saying that.

[A]

But this is live.

[B]

You're saying what I'm saying. So the stumbles that might happen. We don't know that he don't do this@power106. But they can clean it because they go back and punch.

[E]

Nah.

[A]

Then you shouldn't win.

[E]

I'm not giving that. AB has also been someone who was willing and prepared to go on stage and do actual battle rap events and go against those people who are way more trained than that level. So he has that about him. It's not like that's not a part of his pedigree as a rapper.

[A]

And he just had a bad style.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

He just had a bad outing. That's like.

[C]

Heavens.

[D]

I would have liked to see them. Hey, bring it back.

[A]

Let's.

[D]

Let's diffuse this.

[E]

But that goes back into saying Kai is not of that nature.

[B]

You don't even know what's going on.

[E]

He's just giving you the platform at this point. I give you enough.

[A]

It's an absol job to be the experienced professional in the room at that point. I'm not putting that on kaisernat and it's. Man. Absol is supposed to either say stop the beat and get something a little more friendly to what you trying to do. Yeah. Or he's supposed to just freestyle off the top of his head. Which he can. And get the props from naming the things that are in the room. Or.

[D]

Or just pull out a rhyme that you got in the cut.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

It might not work on that.

[E]

Switch the beat.

[A]

We on Marathon. You whack ass MCs. Y' all ain't half a don. And I'm here with Gabe. We in the red room. You dead soon. Like you got to go to the points of. Oh, you got. That's what rappers do to let the non rapper people know that.

[B]

They still streaming. They ain't done yet.

[A]

They got a little bit more time.

[C]

You was watching that. Y' all want to get this there? Look at you. Look at the passion.

[A]

What beat you had? You rap?

[B]

You had a rap.

[C]

You wrote some, right?

[B]

You had a beat. What's the beat, though?

[A]

I didn't have a beat. I don't have a beat.

[C]

Would you rather be. Everybody mute up.

[B]

He's not gonna do that now.

[E]

Put on folding.

[B]

He's not gonna do that.

[A]

It'll just be silent.

[B]

But now I'm curious, though. If you. I just wonder, what beat would you choose of a current beat today that you like?

[A]

Like, yo, that's why I'm understanding him. If Kai called me or this opportunity existed, I would write because it's big. I would probably pick bodies. Cause it's recent fresh news. Sound like a killer. Supposed to jump on this. And I would be excited to do that. He just lost his. He just. It was the bad day that. That every rapper has.

[B]

Yeah, it's just the wrong time to have that with that platform.

[A]

Every rapper has had that. Again, not there.

[B]

That's all I'm talking about.

[A]

Well, they don't be having rappers there.

[B]

That's my point.

[D]

From bar two. When it. When it goes off the rails, you're supposed to.

[E]

Yo, we've seen enough. We've seen enough fire from AB to know that he going to make up for it. They going on tour. Tour soon. He gonna go on tour. He gonna showcase that. I add a little blender, whatever.

[B]

Cool.

[E]

I'm good now.

[A]

But I don't think he gonna address.

[B]

This in another verse.

[A]

I don't think this affects his fan base at all. This affected his ability to add new fans.

[C]

Right?

[A]

For sure. He was talking to a different audience. For sure. His fan base know what time it is with. Absolutely.

[B]

Like, I'm not mad at AB having a bad day. I just hate that it happened there with them eyes on that. Like, that's when you were supposed to shine.

[E]

It happens. But I think. I think there'll be opportunity to make a.

[A]

It was so bad. Listen, three, four minutes in, Kai and them figured out that they should be trying to amp him along like your spotter in the gym. Like, they was like, oh, the bar down here wasn't. Oh, there wasn't no. About230 in a press. They ain't know. They was like, ah. It just wasn't. It just wasn't. That just wasn't that, man. Shout out. Shout out to solo. Shout out to solo.

[D]

I don't want to play no more of this, man.

[A]

No, you can't.

[D]

No, you can't.

[A]

Cuz it hurts us.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't even laugh.

[D]

Not at all.

[E]

There's nothing that's.

[C]

It's not.

[E]

It wasn't funny.

[B]

It was funny.

[E]

It wasn't like the. The Sway. What's the Omeli joint like that.

[A]

That was.

[B]

That was funny.

[E]

That was a funny moment. That was just like. All right, we know that this person rapping can do what he need to do.

[A]

The funny part about that, and it's not funny. Ah, whatever.

[C]

How you felt about that?

[A]

The funny part. I'm talking. You know, ask Mark. No, while I'm talking, you crazy important.

[B]

Oh, oh, that's right.

[A]

Mark ain't that important here.

[B]

It changed.

[A]

It ain't. Yeah, it's not. Not while I'm talking. I'll toss it to him when I'm. When I'm done.

[B]

Got you.

[C]

Friday talking.

[A]

Yo, you talk. All right, it's going now.

[D]

Yes. It happens, man.

[A]

I forgot. Mark, what are you saying now?

[C]

I wouldn't say nothing. I don't remember nothing. I don't know nothing.

[A]

You ain't hear it, right?

[C]

No.

[A]

On.

[B]

Okay, got it. You're not gonna speak bad On Philly.

[C]

Shout out to Philly. Shout out to my brother o'. Melly. Shout out to the whole squad. Yep.

[A]

Nope. All right.

[D]

It's good loyalty.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Gotta be somebody. Gotta be.

[E]

Oh, can't wait for Friday.

[D]

What's Friday?

[E]

Oh, when the. The other cast member comes from Philly.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Favorite Shout out.

[A]

Shout out girl. Big moan.

[C]

Shout out to big moaning.

[A]

Ah, man, it happens, man.

[B]

This don't hurt nothing.

[E]

We love you, man.

[A]

Don't worry about it. Shake it off. That's the funny part about this. Your man just had arguably one of the best years any rapper has ever had. He's texting you about this too.

[D]

Oh, he texting you.

[A]

Cuz, if you going to go do that, then go sit down somewhere and let me just continue to ride the not like us West Coast. Don't. Don't pop out now and then.

[D]

Whoopsie daisy. Time for a whoops a daisy.

[A]

Could not have been happier. Oh, you know, they was going crazy. Academics could not have been at west coast failure ass.era.error.

[B]

He posted the dot.

[A]

I didn't like that.

[E]

That was funny.

[A]

Shout out to have soul man. Waiting to hear the next freestyle now.

[D]

I am.

[A]

And you got to kill super sure crazy like.

[B]

Let's not. He still absol.

[D]

And you might as well pick that Beat again and do it right.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

N. Leave that be. No, the moment passed.

[A]

No, no, no. He should put that out. Yeah, himself should put that out. He should do that beat with whatever verse he had where he could read it and be comfortable and put that out so the fans at least don't lose. So we knew what he was trying to do.

[E]

You said he addressed it. He acknowledged and said, oh, yeah.

[C]

Yeah, he did.

[A]

It was long. It was long. Let's see. He did acknowledge it. I ain't got to play. He basically said, I felt up.

[E]

Yeah, that's all you can do.

[C]

He did all.

[A]

You all have a take on do. Yeah, I'm sorry, Mark, do you have a take on reason on. On Twitter? Did y' all see the reason? I saw it where he was like, they gotta get this guy some help.

[E]

Yeah, I'm not.

[A]

Fans was on reason to ask because it was like, yo, if that's your homie, then don't tweet that. And then he responded and said, that's not my homie, homie. We're not homies at all. Actually, he just dissed me recently. But I love. I have enough love in my heart to say something.

[E]

What is he referring to when he's saying, you should get this guy some help?

[A]

Well, that's. That's the part that should be taboo. Yeah, that's the part.

[E]

It's not the freestyle.

[A]

It's not the free.

[E]

And I know what you're trying to imply, and it's corny.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[E]

Because that's not the message you say and salutes the reason I with his music and think he's dope.

[A]

But is it corny even if it's true? Yes. Yes. Yeah, right?

[E]

That's not the. That's not the platform to showcase that. Whether we cool or not, if you saying it from a place of genuine love, that's something a back channel gets to or somebody on the back channel who can actually get that message to that person.

[A]

I agree and I disagree. I agree with you. You're right. I also disagree because I've said that same thing about Kodak in a tweet. Mad times, anytime I see a Kodak vehicle come out, they look nuts. I say, yo, please, can we pray for him and get his brother?

[D]

But there's a big difference. Difference between what AB did up there. From what we see, Kodak.

[E]

There's a difference between your relationship with Kodak and there's a big difference between your relationship with Kodak.

[D]

Aside from that, if Absol was up there, Stumbling, falling over, like, looking visibly intoxicated, a mess, then that's one thing. If you just up and you think it's because he was too stoned or something, like, that's.

[A]

That's the part that's inappropriate.

[D]

That's a little crazy.

[A]

Internet and people on the Internet have to stop just diagnosing people that never stop. Now, you might have some privileged information that we don't know about, but you can't just. Parks is right. Based off what we saw, that's not enough for that heavy of an accusation. Hey, get this brother some help. He forgot his freestyle and he might have smoked some weed before he got in there. Right? Yeah, like, that's not. That's not ringy. Hey, Freeze is absolutely right, man. The drop is here for a reason. Go ahead, Mark.

[C]

I had a. I've been trying to figure out how to make sense of this. Kanye west has our new ops list.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

You know, every six months or so he got one. The last one had, like, hov and some sort of familiar faces. This one, more familiar names. But I was curious. He tweeted, I am in pain that no one person can fix the betrayal therapy. Right. Turns out there is someone. And then he gave a list of people who betrayed. Trade him. I'm just going to do the list real quick. Kim Kardashian, facts. Okay. I show speed.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

What the speed do.

[A]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[C]

Tell you what told me. Diddy. That one surprised me because they were just tight. They were just shouting each other.

[B]

He was that case in the courthouse.

[A]

Oh, this might be manufactured in. Because the whole. I mean, not whole. Diddy's the man.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. Did he just. He just came.

[A]

He just sold the Sean Jon Free him shirts.

[E]

All right, this might be a fake.

[C]

Listen, but I mean, he posted it, so.

[E]

Oh, never mind.

[B]

Yeah, and that might have been opportunistic, bro.

[A]

Go ahead. Who else?

[B]

Ty$sign that one.

[A]

That's facts.

[C]

Now here's one none of us would disagree with. Harriet Tubman. He got some.

[A]

She was a plan. Yeah, she wasn't.

[B]

Watch your mouth.

[E]

Watch your mouth about here. Watch your mouth.

[A]

In his story, Kanye is going on the Harry Tub was a plant rants.

[D]

That's what he's doing.

[A]

He's done it years ago.

[C]

Oh, she portrayed him, though, right?

[A]

She don't know you.

[E]

Laying them down in the river.

[C]

That makes sense to me.

[A]

Anyway, Harry tell me to Kanye up. Seriously. He was official.

[C]

Yeah. Northwest.

[E]

Wait, his daughter.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Another direction. I agree it could have just been directional.

[C]

I don't talk about capital N, capital.

[E]

W. Wait, he really added his daughter to this?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I don't know why that's some family should. I ain't gonna get into it, but I'm just. The fact that he mentioned his daughter is noteworthy. Pushing.

[A]

No, he got a beef with his daughter. I ain't talking about either because it's kid.

[B]

Yeah, I want to talk about it.

[C]

Yeah. I ain't got nothing to do it. Pusha. No surprise there. Freddie Gibson. I'm telling you what he wrote.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I say Freddie Gibson.

[E]

Funny. Putting his whole last name.

[A]

What did Freddie Gibbs do? The contract. Kanye Rat.

[C]

Better.

[A]

Who else is there?

[C]

Cudi.

[E]

Okay, I understand that.

[C]

Curious George.

[B]

That one.

[A]

That's one. That's one.

[D]

I'm curious about the.

[A]

The monkey.

[C]

I don't know, but one.

[A]

There's only Curious George.

[C]

Donald Trump.

[A]

Yo, that's so crazy.

[C]

Yeah, but good for you.

[A]

This is the first time I've ever thought that the Curious and Curious George was racist.

[D]

Tell you something about dude from the Beanuts, man.

[C]

That's possible but unlikely.

[A]

Cuz. Why is the. What is the monkey curious about everything?

[B]

You remember the books?

[D]

Oh, you thought he was a little bi. Curious.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yo, come on.

[A]

No, the monkey.

[E]

What's right?

[C]

All kinds of out of this today, man.

[A]

I'm just saying, Today at 45, it reads like.

[E]

Oh, man, he wake.

[A]

He woke up.

[E]

He is FBA now.

[A]

He is. Look at this little monkey. Curious as to why white people are running. Went back to watch the show to criticize it. Hey, look at these monkeys. They want to learn about why.

[C]

Stop that.

[A]

Why are we the boss? That does have a little.

[C]

Pete Davidson.

[E]

Makes sense.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Patrick Starr.

[B]

That one also.

[E]

That makes sense.

[C]

LeBron James.

[B]

Patrick Starr. Makes sense.

[A]

Who the is Patrick Starr?

[E]

From spongebob.

[B]

Spongebob.

[A]

Good.

[C]

And then rounding out the list is King Von, Playboy, Cardi.

[A]

And if you'd have said that while he was alive, this would have had a whole different.

[B]

Picked a good time to list that one.

[C]

James Murray. And then the last name he just wrote Adolf.

[B]

All right, cool.

[C]

I'm assuming he means Adolf Reed, the professor of political science at University of Pennsylvania.

[B]

That's it.

[C]

I normally don't respond to Kanye tweets because that's what he wants. You gonna be on the next listen. No, I'm not. He. He, me and Kanye ain't got no issue. He on. Yeah, we ain't got no issue. But is this just a. Does this feel to y' all, like, albums coming out.

[B]

It always feels like there's something to sell.

[E]

Roll out.

[B]

Yeah, it might not be out. It's something to sell. The Yeezy store going to be back up with 20 off everything or whatever.

[D]

Hear the last album we put out.

[C]

Yeah. Me, I think I still. When I heard it.

[B]

Oh, what was that? Vultures too.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that wasn't good.

[E]

All right. Just not over Kanye.

[A]

It's just like.

[E]

Like, at this point, don't get. Like, we have. We don't. We don't have to talk about it. But at this point, what is surprising? Like, what's new about this Kanye is. This is the relative schedule program with this.

[A]

It is Kanye.

[B]

Is that relative that just be in the corner going crazy.

[A]

Yeah, we know.

[B]

In the back, Timmy.

[E]

In the back.

[B]

Yeah, we know.

[C]

Speaking of which, Candace Owens.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

An image or a video clip has been going around. Is horny. That's the only way to describe it. I didn't know about it. I came in today and people. People were telling me about it.

[E]

Turned Candace Owens just giving a little funny little joint into.

[C]

What was she doing?

[E]

I can't do it because then they'll.

[C]

Trust the community. Part of the month.

[E]

I gotcha.

[A]

She could be a good start to winning three times in a row.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is definitely.

[C]

When you come.

[B]

Let's commit into the gig.

[E]

Think somebody else should get it.

[C]

You're entertaining. I'm good.

[A]

We don't want it.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

You already said we don't care about it, so come on.

[E]

Whatever she did, she was doing a. She was doing a motion where she was mocking someone and she had a whole thing where she had a tongue out and started wagging her head back.

[C]

And forth and looking with the eyes looking up.

[E]

I ain't going to lie. Now that I think about.

[A]

And men on the Internet objectified her and sexualized.

[E]

That was crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I kind of nuts that y' all did that.

[A]

That's the part that's super crazy. Crazy. Y' all needed that clip to do that. Like, for years we've been telling y' all now that Candace Owens ain't the worst. Yeah. Why y' all needed this video to do that?

[C]

This is what I. I mean, like, I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you look.

[A]

Yes, you are. I mean, you can't say it.

[C]

I don't. I'm not saying I. That wasn't my thought.

[E]

It's because it's conservative.

[C]

No, because it just wasn't my thought.

[A]

She spun him for a tail.

[B]

You Never a Republican, man.

[A]

You want to go rap parties?

[C]

Wait, actually.

[E]

Actually a bunch of them too.

[A]

Yeah. Knocked a lot off. Mark, you fucked a Republican? Yes. You have.

[C]

Not knowingly.

[A]

Okay, but you have.

[C]

I mean, I can't and I found out. And then you hit again.

[A]

What does she. What does she present to be?

[C]

I've never knowingly had sex with a Republican.

[D]

Would you not.

[C]

My wife would hate that shit.

[A]

Well, no, don't do that. Don't do that. You joking?

[C]

That's the out. No, no.

[A]

In my head I always thought that was one of your leading questions, like what party you side with.

[D]

Let me see your voting record.

[E]

That might be a kink.

[C]

I. I have. No. In my single days, I've never. I don't. First of all, I don't.

[D]

You play the Bushes, I'll play the Clintons.

[A]

Let's have it out.

[C]

Play the Bushes is crazy. I did. I didn't. I don't think I've ever done. Because I don't know. I don't. I've never had sex. No, I never had sex with a black. No, we got sex with a black.

[A]

This is taking a turn.

[E]

Are you good?

[C]

What you say I'm great. What I was going to say is I've never had sex with a black Republican and I don't have sex with white women, so. And I don't have sex with white women, so I'm like, the odds are slim, you know what I'm saying? Because I would have to be like.

[E]

Yeah, so maybe a Spanish Republican.

[A]

No, no.

[C]

As I'm saying.

[A]

You've never had sex with a white woman. Like.

[C]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying I didn't do it on a regular basis. I could count. I could count on one hand, Mark.

[A]

You know what's funny about that? Yeah.

[C]

46 years. Yes. I can count on one hand. Knows what I'm saying.

[A]

I identify with you.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This room and the guys in this room don't seem to be able to compute that.

[C]

Yeah, well, he's lying.

[E]

So we just let him.

[C]

He's not saying he never has. He's saying it's rare. Few and far between. Right.

[A]

I've been saying for years that's not my thing. It's not my go to. It's actually more of a reason for me to turn away. However, I've slept with white women in my life. These guys make that to be just.

[C]

Yeah, I can think of two actually.

[B]

No, cuz you downplay this.

[A]

Like, it's only been like, check you.

[B]

You downplay it really, really, really low.

[A]

Cuz your thing counted on one end.

[E]

You said you go and then you forgot to.

[A]

You'll say five fingers on a hand. Yes.

[C]

Yo, like five, 10.

[E]

It's two hands.

[C]

15, 20, 25.

[A]

No. At worst case, let's say that they're right. And I've slept with seven white women I've been fucking since I was 16 years old.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Seven.

[A]

I'm 45.

[E]

You hit a rough pass.

[A]

If you fuck with seven. If you fuck seven white girls. That doesn't say to me, you fuck white girls. Yeah, that's it.

[C]

That's it. And for me, I think the numbers two might be three. Like it's. It's. You know what I'm saying? She said she was mixed, but in.

[D]

Retrospect, said she was Puerto Rican.

[C]

Yo, in retrospect, she was like.

[E]

And she was green party anyway, right?

[C]

I was 19. Also. I was 19. I wouldn't think about parties.

[E]

Look how young y' all was.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of white women, real quick, this is not on our topic board, but it just came to my mind because we talk about white women. We've already reviewed the Billy Joel doc.

[D]

Okay, okay. See where this is going.

[A]

However, Billy Joel married his best friend's wife.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And not just married, fell in love with. They was really soulmates.

[D]

Partner.

[A]

She really took his career. Road manager. She took his career. And the Ramones.

[B]

Did the best friend die?

[D]

No, no, he's in the dock.

[C]

Hey, hey.

[A]

And. And to take it a step further, in the great words of you, after he punched him in his face and years passed, he forgave him and they began to speak again.

[D]

Well, cuz they got divorced.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm curious where that fell in the.

[E]

No, he got sick and then he helped him.

[A]

He got.

[E]

Billy Joe got sick.

[A]

That was fire.

[E]

He was by you.

[A]

My wife took my wife from me. And when you got sick, when nobody was there for. For you, I was able to forgive you enough to come over there and. And save your life.

[E]

Better man than me.

[A]

But that's not where the white girl conversation brought me. Oh, right after that, cuz I was in bed blown away by that. And then not even 30 minutes later, they introduced Christy Brinkley.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Who was one of the finest hot pieces of white ass around in 1989.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that was his new girlfriend.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Bagged him.

[E]

The Lord passed down.

[A]

That's it. That's fire. Yeah.

[C]

Billy Joe.

[D]

That was Billy Joel, man.

[A]

For the long Billy Joe and Christy Brinkley. I don't Know if I ever knew that before, but watching it as an.

[E]

Adult, I didn't know that.

[A]

But Christy Brick, yo, they was doing some Sports Illustrated, had all the high models around. He came in with this Piano man gay game. Yeah, it worked. All the bad model surrounded him, started rubbing his nipples. And so now Billy Joe was saying, yo, I know I'm this ugly leprechaun piano man that has no business with this lady, but here we are. Yeah. Yeah. And she went and got advice from somebody saying, yo, I'm with this little ugly. What am I supposed to do? And they was like, listen, you'll find there's fine men everywhere, but if you love him and he's a good man, man, then stay there. And then they really stayed together.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Talk about, man, make some noise for bagging a fine white piece of ass. Make some noise for bagging a fine white piece of ass. Christy Brinkley, I can see her being.

[D]

A part like Piano man, your way into it.

[A]

Christy Brinkley in the 80s. That's the other part. Because I'm not old enough. I always, I, I know Billy Joel and I know his catalog, but I, I learned it. The Billy Joel doc said to me, Billy Joel started falling off like when I was born.

[C]

Yeah. That was the end of his run. Yeah.

[A]

80, 80 to 83. Yeah.

[E]

A lot of the artists that we speak about today in the highlight, they had that moment of falling off and having to catch themselves back.

[A]

Yeah. I just didn't know his, his fall off wasn't the best fall off, but I just didn't know how he was killing before I got to the earth. Oh, yeah. Every time they said, and we'll move from this because we did this already.

[D]

Falling off to the river of dreams. And it was not a bad. You know there's worse fall offs.

[A]

Right. Every time they said, yo, this was the biggest selling album that Atlantic ever did. The very next album biggest broke it. A man selling 5 million records in the 70s. Your label never sold that for any artist anywhere.

[C]

That's an insane number.

[B]

That's an insane number actually with nobody. Your label ain't never did it before.

[A]

Word. And I'm playing the piano and I turned down Elton John's band and went and got some hood niggas from New York. I went and guys, oh, my gosh, Yo, I, I, I really resonated with that Billy Joel story.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And we can move on. We can move on.

[C]

Speaking of record sales, there's been some.

[B]

See what you did.

[C]

Internet fireworks.

[A]

Let's do it.

[C]

In the last even.

[A]

We waited long enough.

[D]

We did.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[D]

You don't think they made it to this part of the podcast?

[A]

No, they still listening.

[B]

Oh, they listen.

[A]

I know they was listening. Like these didn't even get to the hottest topic.

[D]

Oh no, I wasn't talking about our fans. I was talking about the people in question.

[A]

They are searching for clipped the clippers.

[C]

So as we know, Cardi B has put out an album. They had a great first week, over 200k, impressive number, lots of records broken, et cetera. Good music and excellent music. I listened to that over the weekend in the car. I liked it even more than the first time I got. It's a really good album.

[A]

It's a great album.

[C]

Over that time there have been some Nicki fans and shout out to Nicki Minaj. I love both of them. Nicki Minaj fans who have said that some of the records that are being kind of put out are misleading and that Nicki still is at the top of the heap, etc. That's been a fan battle back and forth. Anyway, we all know last week Nicki Minaj posted her her what we think is the album release. They Picture of a CD and a date 327327 26. Some people said that was trying to step on Cardi's pub and all of that. Anyway, beyond that, last night at the time of this recording, Nikki tweeted a cryptic message, somewhat cryptic. She said to every enabler, never provoke a writer while they're writing. You join the game as a willing participant. Don't try to back out now. 3 hours, 27 minutes and 26 seconds. Hashtag rockbottomnation. Hashtag rockinflation, riconation. You failed. Let the reindeer games begin. We win again. Now that went up. The Internet was buzzing and before the Internet could even get a full conversation about it, Cardi B clapped right back and she tweeted a few things. She tweeted, you must have missed me, huh? Crazy now kiss my feet. Then she followed with another thing. She said, nothing more annoying than. Than a board B, I T, C.

[A]

H. You just say the fucking bitch.

[C]

No, she didn't write it. I'm saying she put B bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say it in that context. She just didn't say it though.

[A]

She was on some ice shit. Some bitch shit.

[C]

I don't use the word, but I have no problem saying it, reading it like in context, being a bitch.

[D]

About bitch.

[A]

Right?

[C]

And so then. But it didn't stop there, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Cardi then went to the direct comparisons between her and Nikki and said, why you keep bringing up my outfit? It's not the gag you think it is. You've been in the game like 16 years. You need to compare yourself to your peers. That started around your time. Rihanna, Taylor Swift, Drake. Those are the numbers you need to be competing with. And you can't because you're doing lower than all of them. I was in high school when you came out. WTF is you comparing yourself to me for now, I'm just gonna give y' all the rest of this and then we can talk about it. Nikki took it up a notch. She took it from further. It no longer was about the music. She took it a little more personal and she said raw dog and pregnant with the fourth baby, Barney. Bpv, hpv.

[D]

I don't like your Nicki Minaj voice at all.

[C]

No, she's putting a lot. No, these are her putting extra wise at the end of words. This isn't a person.

[E]

I just don't like.

[A]

But we don't like talking. Mark Minaj voice is.

[C]

Okay, I apologize. Well, that's. Y' all read it with all the extra. No, try it again.

[E]

Try it with the voice.

[A]

What we also saying is this stuff is.

[B]

It's too nasty to be.

[A]

It's really personal. Yeah, it's really nasty. It's really outside of music and anything that we cover as a podcast. I understand that it's hot and juicy. All of the girls are fighting. It will continue to get hot and juice and juicy, hotter and juicier. Once y' all start talking about fertility doctors.

[C]

I just. We gotta add that. Check me out for fairness to. Check me out of this for fairness to Nikki. I won't read the last tweet, but Cardi did respond and accuse her of infertility and blaming different factors for infertility. I just want so people don't say I didn't read Carly's last guys.

[A]

The things that they are slinging about each other and to each other. I want no part of it takes away from my excitement, even about them being adversaries.

[C]

Well, that's the thing. I love a good competition. I love a good beef. I love a good.

[E]

I hate what you're saying a little. I can understand our stance on that as men. Right. Just butting into women's arguments and conversations. But the mudslinging ain't no different from what Drake and Kendrick was doing.

[A]

It is Different.

[E]

Not to me. Going around pedophilia and all that stuff.

[A]

But it is different if we are to believe that those brothers had a conversation at some point.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

I was thinking a little bit different.

[A]

When it happens because. Yes, but the content of that conversation. Right. Like some people say that they offered to fight. Some people say that. So when I'm listening to this Nikki Cardi shit, that's the difference between women mudslinging and men mudsling. And men. Men mudslinging. This is just going to get to a fight at some point. M With women. Or that. For the said or that.

[C]

There's our clip.

[A]

Why? Who's on. They don't know about whatever.

[C]

Nothing is.

[A]

Somebody's not a. I was sleep.

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

There's more suits.

[A]

Go ahead. I don't give a. What I'm saying is the girls, before they get to fisticuffs, are going to get really personal first. Guys might not do that. We getting right to. It's fight. When I see you, we gonna fight. That's it. Women. You had to go see doctor. You can't have a baby. Oh, okay.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. They do a lot.

[A]

All right, you got it.

[B]

They subscribe.

[A]

That's out of my ministry.

[B]

If you go low, I take it that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Well, in fairness, Cardi, I mean, if I understand the reports correctly, and I could be wrong, y' all correct me if I'm wrong. There was an attempt to fight years ago before all this happened, right? Didn't. Didn't Cardi run up on her through a shoe.

[B]

Shoe was thrown.

[C]

Yeah, but that was after the. After people held back. I'm not. I'm not take. I don't have a side of this.

[B]

I don't care what. What Joe is saying. Men, will you come without your people? I come without my people. We go over here and we do what we got to do.

[C]

No, what I'm saying is it seemed.

[A]

Like they're not doing whatever happened at Met Gala unless they at the same strip club together somewhere. And even then, that's not going to happen.

[B]

Too many people.

[A]

Party has people on her side. Nikki has people on her side. People understand. Never going to fight.

[C]

Got you.

[A]

So we just going to say the nastiest things we could possibly say.

[C]

And I don't.

[A]

I don't fight like Cardi's talking about Nikki's whole family. It's out of my ministry. Like, it takes my excitement out of it. If we not going to get bars and y' all going to just be below the Belt.

[C]

Yeah. I didn't like it when they. Even when they were going back and forth about record sales and judge yourself against your peers and all that. Whether I agree or disagree now, that's.

[A]

Where I want to. That's where I want that.

[C]

To me, that's the conversation I want to be a part of of once you start getting into people's bodies and babies and fertility and health and all that.

[A]

And before we get to that record sale part, I would like to hear what y' all have to say about what Cardi is saying about who Nikki's peers are. What do y' all think about that portion in mark red about?

[E]

I think she's correct.

[A]

Rihanna, Drake, Taylor. Those are the people you came out with. Why are you even looking at me? Who came from a much later class. What do y' all think about?

[E]

I think she's correct in certain ways. And I also think that she's kind of now using that to kind of not have to live up to that same legacy. Because you want to compete with Nikki. You've been doing things to compete with Nikki. Whether you've said it out your mouth or not, you are doing things she did. You do want to be her peer.

[D]

For me, before I get to that, I know that Nikki's last album did something like 228, and Cardi did 200, 199.6.

[B]

If you let them tell it well.

[A]

We'Re gonna get to that.

[D]

We're in the same ballpark, is all I'm saying. Like, it's not like one is blowing the other person out the water. It doesn't seem like a fight, but it worth having.

[E]

But it.

[A]

It.

[B]

No, no. Because when they have. You know how it is. It's the Internet. We keep the files. So they immediately pulled up the spaces, the recording of her telling them, y' all gonna be party. Telling y' all gonna be crying when I drop because I'm out selling chicks. I'm out hitting y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Y' all are gonna be crying. All y' all that want me to.

[C]

Almost everybody.

[B]

But not the one that you're talking about.

[C]

Oh, you don't think you did. You just talking about Nikki.

[B]

It's been them two. All the little. Everybody else that's in this mix is because I want one side or the other.

[A]

When did Cardi say that on spaces?

[B]

I don't. I'll get the date.

[A]

That's 1, 2. I understand the fan base highlighting, hey, you didn't pass that 200k mark. But also, though, the first, first week in Hip hop has been overblown for a while. This is about life of the project.

[D]

It also gets really confusing when both their projects had singles that were out way before the project comes in. And now there's projected sales getting at it. I don't know what the is.

[A]

It's different when one is coming off a 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 10 times platinum project, which is Cardi. Like I've seen the number reported different, but I've never seen a reported lower than 6. So you sold 6 million records. It's safe.

[B]

You could say, but you could say that.

[A]

Yeah. Now if you said that, which you did, Nikki can say, yeah. 199.6. Guess you didn't do it. I'm still the only one in my class.

[E]

I think Cardi shouldn't even speak to. To. To having to lean into that. We're not peers. You guys are peers at this point.

[A]

We.

[E]

We view you as peers, whether it be on an artistic level or not. You guys are fighting the same fight. That's how I view it. So when she said that, it was kind of like trying to relinquish yourself from the competition that you've already participated in. You and Nikki are obviously the two women that we look at as the top two to even have to consider who's the queen of hip hop at the moment.

[A]

Stop it.

[B]

It is I.

[A]

Stop it.

[B]

Even though I don't. I don't personally, I don't have. We consider in that conversation there's nobody.

[A]

I don't want to get. I don't want to get to talk. If I'm Nicki Minaj, I don't want.

[B]

To hear none of say there is no competition.

[A]

If I'm Nicki Minaj. You can't say that around me. And, and I don't want to. I don't want to present that side of the argument because I'm not picking a horse. Right, right. Right now. Right now. I'm not. I understand both sides. And to the people that was confused when Mona was here, me saying I'm in both highs is cause I'm from New York. Like I don't know what the fuck you Internet kids is doing out there. I'm from New York, nigga. Cardi's from the Bronx and Nicki's from Queens. I'm from New York.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm for New York. Right.

[C]

And I'm from Neither. I'm from. I'm from Philly. And for me it is you like.

[A]

Bahama Dia and Jade. What's her name and all of them.

[C]

Ms. Jade. Shout out to Ms. Jade.

[A]

I love Ms. Jade.

[C]

We're not gonna do that to Ms. Jade.

[A]

I'm misrepresented Ms. Jade.

[C]

I Love Ms. Jade. And shout out to Bahama D, one of the greats too. But my point is, as an outsider, I don't want to feel like I have to choose between them anymore than I want to choose between Kendrick and Drake. I may have preferences, but this idea that you got to pick a side to me as wow. And I hate the way the moment now is like, if you say anything about Carti, it must mean you anti, you anti Nicki or vice versa. And us as broadcasters, if we offer a criticism of Carti, then we picked aside.

[E]

We love those moments. We've enjoyed it in every part of.

[A]

His hip hop thing.

[C]

It's a hip hop thing as much.

[E]

I don't like that it's giving. Getting this nasty and dirty. But when we had the Jay and Nas moment, we felt like we had to pick a side.

[C]

Like, see, I don't see. I don't feel we had to pick a side the same way people picked.

[A]

I didn't pick.

[B]

It's just the Internet. The Internet amplifies all this. That's.

[C]

That's what it is with Jay and Nas. Like, people pick sides, but you didn't have to pick a side with Cardi. And Nikki's not feels you have to pick a side. Almost like with Drake and Kendrick. Like, you have to pick a side. That's the I.

[D]

Wherever I was at, we were still playing Nas and Jay Z.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Like in my hooding jersey, we still.

[D]

You might say NAS, NAS1 or Whole1. But you still playing both, right?

[C]

We were bumping still medic and there.

[A]

Was no way for you to love hip hop and not play both. This. This new option didn't exist back then. Yeah. This new what the hives are doing and what the fans are doing, that's.

[B]

This separatism is new Internet, social media. Not just Internet. It's social media that forces people, the sheep to feel like, I gotta pick one side and if I'm on this side, I can't with too.

[E]

Of course not a weapon. Their fan base. In a certain way, both of their.

[B]

Music is too fire for you to.

[A]

Really stand on one side of the fence, buddy. Guess what? Guess what's happening tomorrow. Nikki's coming with Heat.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Guess, guess what's happening right now. That Cardi is Heat.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Both gonna have a Fire tour. Both gonna go ahead.

[A]

You say a lot. You say a lot of things that if I'm a bar harp, I don't want to hear none of that.

[E]

You gotta hear it.

[A]

You never toured.

[B]

You've done nothing to prove that you could be in this conversation speaking about.

[A]

You like you in the same breath as me. You've never toured. You're going out with 900 artists, you're doing all types of bundle. I went domestic and international and sold out everywhere. I don't want to hear that hot shit you heard also. So.

[E]

So you want me to pick your side at this point now? So I can't. I can't view Nick. Cuz we went to Nikki show and Nikki show is amazing. Fire. I now can't go to a cardi show whether she did a tour before and consider it a fire show. If it's a fire show.

[A]

I'm not allowed to say that.

[B]

That's a totally different conversation. That's not what we saying.

[E]

That's all I'm saying.

[A]

Fire. I'm coming in and say yo, that was absolutely crazy.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not what we saying.

[B]

That's not.

[D]

We're saying that. You saying they're both going to go on tour and have a fire tour.

[A]

Until you see one of them do it. It.

[E]

I get that.

[A]

We can't keep saying that they both are the same and we've seen one do everything.

[E]

That's not what I'm saying. Nobody said they were the same.

[A]

Joe. If you say that we both going to go on tour and put on a fire show and one person has never went on tour and put on a fire show, then what are you saying?

[B]

You don't know that she's show. We don't know.

[A]

That's based on nothing. You just being positive.

[E]

Okay, come on.

[B]

Say I hope she put on a fire show. But you don't. She has no track record.

[E]

We get into the cement semantics of what you guys are saying. Yeah, you know what they're doing. And on top of that she can talk. You just said she sold me a record. Yes, I'm assuming that she will based off of the music that she has based off of the relationship based off of a crowd. A big part of what's going to make that tour fire is the crowd and how they come to show up for her. So yes, I'm assuming on the Cardi side. Nikki, we've seen it. They talking about performance wise. We've. But actually and putting on the actual show.

[A]

Cool.

[E]

I'm saying you Know what's going to.

[A]

Make them shows different too? You tricked me into having this talk now. Friend groups. Friend groups and features. And you was at the Nicki show with me. So when she wasn't out there and the DJ was out there, the same fire.

[E]

Amazing.

[A]

They took you on a trip from when you was 18.

[E]

I see what he's saying.

[A]

He doing 13. You know who the hottest crews were last decade? She was affiliated with them. I think Cardi's feature game is A1, but they're newer acts.

[B]

And not just that.

[A]

It's Rob 49.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's JT, it's Glorilla, it's Kehlani, it's Lotto.

[D]

She got Bruno Mars features too. That.

[A]

Yeah, like not. That ain't. I'm talking to hip hop. I'm talking about going to a hip hop show and somebody playing hip hop slaps for three hours.

[B]

Absolutely.

[E]

You are correct. There's nothing to say. There's not a.

[A]

The conversation that Cardi show should be.

[E]

The conversation isn't who's gonna have a better show. Cause at this point, that's not my conversation.

[A]

Put on a good show. Good shows.

[E]

A good show to me at this point. If Cardi can do that on top of already dropping a great album, there's no conversation that we need to have as far as comparing. But we can at least say she's doing her part.

[A]

I want a record with these two.

[C]

I would love for that.

[A]

I don't want people to think I'm just up here perpetuating violence.

[C]

Right.

[A]

The end all to this is dumb. Holding the blue and red flag up in the air and doing records. Lotto came up on that every time remix. And if Nikki comes on the third verse of that, that's fine. Motorsport that is fire. Any song that either one of them do, you can hear the other one come right behind them. Maybe not now, maybe in five years. If everybody's still here and alive, we.

[B]

Don'T know we get another thug and Luchi.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. Life is long a feature swap.

[B]

Yeah, but that's down the line. But again, not well, if, if, if they could come back from that. Cuz I'm about to say his lines crossed my Nicky. You could still come back from my.

[A]

Nikki critique is when you come be direct. When you come be direct. Don't give us all these tweets like you about to smack the out of or like diss tracks is coming or like you about to answer on your album and then when your album come, it's just the hits and. And we rap. Little subtle, direct. You know what? Where Cardi is winning that. Being direct. Hey, you. Hey, you. I ain't forget about you.

[E]

You. Megan.

[D]

She was.

[C]

She was very direct.

[A]

So I know there's been mixed reviews about that diss track version because of it. Because of the. If you're being direct. Part of being direct is how we receive.

[D]

Cardi wasn't very direct with the shots that we think were at Nikki on the other of them.

[A]

Yeah. What? I disagree with that. She didn't say her name. Yes, you're right. I totally disagree. Some of y' all out there talking about some Akbar. The very next bar says, hey, every trip you take with your. You paying for it. None of y' all have seen Akbar on a trip with her. What are y' all talking about? What do you.

[B]

I follow Akbar.

[A]

I follow Nikki. I follow Cardi. Where are the trips that Akbar is on? Where the world is saying, hey, your baby, yo, don't beat me down. Where Internet takes. Yo, I know hip hop. Some of y' all don't. I know hip hop.

[B]

I know the.

[A]

Somebody's talking.

[D]

She did it.

[C]

Subliminal. That's not direct. Subliminal is not direct.

[A]

Rapper. Hey, no, she's talking to Akbar. Yo, don't waste my time.

[C]

Subliminal is not direct.

[E]

Don't sit here and go ahead and say, be direct.

[A]

Shut the up.

[E]

Don't do that.

[A]

I know. No, I know. I know. She was. You got it. I hate the Internet.

[E]

No, he's screaming, be direct.

[C]

Right. And you can't use an example as a Subliminal Joe would say he knows exactly who she was talking to. I think what y' all are saying, and I know he knows. Being vague and direct and what I'm saying. Millions of people know that's still not a direct hit. The way Cardio Bia was, where you literally say diarrhea Bia. I mean, there's no confusion about that.

[E]

Yeah, but she could also feel comfortable doing that because she might not think Bia is someone who can match up to her level.

[A]

Right.

[E]

But you ain't gonna do that with Nicki. Cause you know if you do that with Nikki and you get that direct.

[A]

Correct, why she not gonna do that with Nikki?

[E]

Because Nikki is.

[A]

Nikki has shown nobody that her diss track is something to run away from. I'm saying that she did.

[E]

Was it.

[A]

So that's where they're getting that from. I'm not saying that about Nikki. I love Nikki. When the Remy track came out, you were there. You know what was said. The mag track, like you know what's being said. Say what you want about Cardi. The diss hit hits it, though. When she dis, it hits and parks old crib, he used to have a dart. The dart in the kitchen. Sometimes we used to go up there sometimes because Parks would practice more. He go up there, bullseye, bong. Sometimes they hit the mark. Sometimes you go to shoot somebody, that's the person that died. That's the run that Cardi is on. I'm telling you something, that's the run. She on. Any I target with my crew, my team, not my writers, them get hit. So if Nikki is gonna do it, I'm just saying do it. If you're gonna do it, do it. In the end, it you dope enough and powerful enough to where if you don't want to hear from her no more, you could put another eight years on top of the seven she gonna put on herself. And we'll never hear from Cardi B again.

[B]

No, I don't think she could do that.

[E]

I wouldn't say that.

[A]

I don't think she could do that. Not by herself, but it wouldn't be by herself. See, part of being a rapper is knowing when to align and who to align.

[E]

Manipulate along.

[A]

You're pregnant, you've had a baby. Every year, the label might be off you. You took a eight, seven year break on your own. Like, all I gotta do is come add be an additive, which we know she know how to do. Cause the whole Nicki and Meek relationship, she said, yo, these are all the ways I added to him. And we saw it. It worked. She knows how to add. Nikki's a brilliant. Yo, she looks like she looks right now. But Nikki is brilliant. And Cardi's. If she's not brilliant, she has brilliant people around. I'm gonna say she's brilliant because I seen where she started and where she's at. Yeah, they both brilliant.

[E]

Yeah, you don't just get.

[A]

They both brilliant people. Yeah, they both are brilliant thinkers.

[E]

They both running.

[A]

Squash it and give us some music. Or one of y' all kill the other one. Like fucking Dolph Lundgren and Apollo follow. We don't need all these girl rappers.

[E]

There's not a world where both can. Can exist but not have to.

[A]

We've seen that world. We've seen that world already. What did it do? We've seen that world. I got my Bodak yellow and I got my classic first Cardi album. And Nikki is Nikki. So you got the decade plus run of that.

[B]

I'm interested in her set list on this tour. That's all I want to see. That'll tell me a lot.

[A]

I said way more on this topic than I wanted to.

[B]

I know.

[C]

I'm glad.

[A]

Actually, I wanted us. I wanted to see.

[B]

We talked. We wasn't going to do.

[A]

Before we spoke on this part. We said, yo, too messy. Let the girls be the girls. We don't want to talk about this at all.

[B]

Yeah, but we was just going to talk about the sales part.

[C]

And we mainly did. I mean, we didn't get into the. I mean, there are other.

[E]

We left the nasty shit on.

[C]

That's the other space that have been going. You hear what she said? What do you think? We ain't getting the most of that. I think it's responsible to report that it wasn't just a sales beef, that it got personal and nasty. We reported it and we noticed that.

[E]

These two artists deserve to be. I mean, even though we might not want to highlight. But it's a hip hop moment now. Some of the stuff that's going along with it are some nasty shit. But at the end of the day, it's two premier albums who are slugging it out. And like you said, we would like to see y' all go. If y' all gonna go that route, go music route. Let us be able to judge based off of the music that you guys are putting out. If one person is saying, you not that talented, and other person's saying, well, why you even compete? Go ahead, do it musically and let's rap.

[B]

And the words.

[C]

Gina views.

[E]

Get in the booth. Her tour is right after she drops the baby. I'm curious to see how does that. You know it starts in what with February, right? Yeah, I'm curious see how does that affect her. Nikki's in March dropping. So listen, that's the moment. See what happens. It's right there.

[A]

Flow. That's the other difference. See, Nikki knows the power, impact and effects of the barbs. Of course, I don't know that Cardi has that with her gang. Only because she hasn't toured yet, is what I'm saying.

[E]

I think every. I think every tour is when you.

[B]

See it getting them. I think every female rapper is totally different.

[E]

Honestly, every female rapper go sit and watch a Nikki show. That should be a requirement as far as if you want to go ahead and be a part of this game in that type of level. Nikki's show is. Forget just the stage, just the experience itself with the way she curate her fan base and how much they feel like they are a part of that is amazing to watch. Yeah, that's like artist 101. If you all female artists trying to make it it as a female rapper. I get that of course but I'm just.

[A]

That show was so good. That's when Amani dubbed that big titty white that was on his body.

[E]

Yeah, I couldn't even pay attention to her.

[A]

Yeah, that's a Nicki. When they put on a great show, she was on YouTube. You said what?

[E]

Nah, nothing. We got next come up.

[C]

When you talking about me and white women.

[A]

You're not in the big titty white girls. Huh? You're not in the big titties.

[E]

I like them, but they I never.

[A]

Seen you with like a big titty jack joint.

[E]

Bust it to the slim gym. Slim joints, right? Not like fat asses.

[A]

For real.

[E]

Well, but of late I've been liking more petite.

[C]

Yeah, you've been slim.

[A]

You've been snacking into a slim gym for a little. You've been on the slim for a while.

[E]

Of late, cuz.

[C]

It's. It's of late.

[E]

Start talking fire.

[B]

He right. He been on the slim for you.

[C]

Titty something I had, but it's not you good, bro.

[E]

It's not. It's not a go to the pad.

[A]

What year is the past?

[E]

When's the last time I gave a.

[A]

Little and why you think I'm a think 218.

[E]

Like 2018. Yeah, we don't want to hear your story.

[A]

We don't want to hear you.

[E]

2018 was like the last little I'm.

[A]

Titty about my girlfriend.

[E]

Don't talk about that. You can't just talk about that.

[A]

I ain't did folks since like 99.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Like I'm seriously that I haven't figured out how to do it and not be awkward.

[D]

Titty is mad pointless.

[A]

I never done it successfully because it's.

[E]

Not a physical thing.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's supposed to be.

[E]

No, it's not.

[A]

You supp them supposed to come from that.

[E]

He trying to get his off.

[A]

No, they are.

[E]

Yeah, you're right. I get it.

[A]

You trying to get your I have an educator talk with me.

[E]

I'm trying to.

[A]

The guys are coming from that.

[E]

Yes. But I also do you know that coming is not always attached to just the physical com. It's combined of the visual. I get a men.

[A]

Oh, you want them niggas that be coming in the closet or off of. Off of Salty off of Polaroid. This be coming. All right. We gotta go. Keep the mental thing. You keep the mental pictures with wind Blow.

[E]

Hey, we got you talk to women more, man. They'll tell you that these are the things that get them off.

[A]

I'm not gonna be. I'm not gonna be an adult titty. Sorry.

[E]

That's how you do it.

[A]

Sorry.

[C]

I wish there was a way to transition out of this movie.

[E]

Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

I'm just gonna move on.

[A]

Speaking of titty, you do that, like, in your day?

[C]

Occasionally, yeah.

[A]

When's the last time to the Republicans.

[E]

Too, or just the Democrats?

[A]

Republican titty is crazy. Which I also think should be the title of this episode. But it'll get us back. I thought that too, but Republican did. Fuck.

[C]

Sometimes circumstances. Sometimes circumstances. That's. You got fewer options on a given night. It's a ton that beat option.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay.

[D]

I follow. Okay, I see what you follow.

[B]

I follow. Yeah, I see what you taking.

[E]

Just can't see a ugly girl.

[A]

Well, I'm not into it, period. But why not?

[E]

Because as you doing it and you.

[B]

Looking down, you got to see her.

[C]

You got to see her face.

[D]

Well, she got great titties.

[A]

Ugly girls be having great tits, though. Sometimes. I know, Stevie Wonder, that you just got to not look up over join if you really. Castle of love.

[C]

You had something else. I do. Anything else will work right now. But a quick Diddy update.

[A]

Oh, from Diddy. Diddy. I don't see how he won pot of the month. Yo, you was doing that all September.

[C]

When you plot high level, you have to like, do some other to win. After a while, they get ti. They.

[A]

They normally tired of your greatness.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

Oh, cuz you think?

[A]

Tell me about it. No, tell me.

[C]

I understand your position now, cuz that then what happens if somebody comes out of the. You know, someone wins the prize, gets on the floor?

[E]

Or maybe. Maybe y' all just limiting what potting looks like. Maybe y' all think it's just talking. Maybe there's a whole other thing that goes into potting that can make this more entertaining for you.

[C]

Like what?

[E]

I don't know. Maybe dancing a little. Singing maybe a little bit entertaining.

[C]

Just, you know, say shuffle. Whatever. Little shuck and. Or jazz.

[E]

Whatever works.

[A]

Big sash coming back.

[C]

Oh, then you. Then he gonna get it again.

[A]

Yeah, if he jump. I ain't doing that. I'm not doing.

[C]

So Diddy is, as we know, at the end of this week, facing sentencing. The prosecutor in New York reportedly at the time of this broadcast. I want to say this again. Reportedly at the time of this broadcast, according to multiple news sources has said the prosecutor requested 11 years. Now some people have said, and we have not confirmed this yet, that the prosecutors is asking for 11 years, but that much of it be on probation, but still wants a sentence of 11 years. Others have suggested that the prosecutor wants a full 11 years in prison. It is unclear which. But the very idea of saying that you should be convicted of 11 years for this is the thing that people are talking about right now.

[E]

And that conviction would be towards the.

[C]

Crime of prostitution, for soliciting prostitution.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

And this is again where it gets complicated. One of the things that the prosecutor has pointed out is the, the victim impact statements. One of the victim impact statements comes from Cassie. It is a very, very, very powerful letter really. It is hard to read it and not be affected by it, to not be saddened by it and to not feel for her in every way. Victim impact statements really do impact judges decisions and I can't imagine that this one won't. The question people have to ask though, I think is how do you weigh the impact that this person had on a victim that no one disputes when that's not the thing they were prosecuted for? That's what I was gonna ask. And that's the moral and ethical dilemma. So if you. Cuz she, she's talking about all the ways that Diddy controlled her, all the ways that even when she, when Diddy asked the question, it's really a demand and an order. And she knew how to read his moods and she knew how to. To say she wanted to do X because he was demanding Y. She knew the punishments that were coming from it. And of course everyone has seen this video. The prosecutor also talked about the fact that or suggested that Diddy's actions are consistent with people who got 10 or 11 years in prison. So when you look at all of that again, you have to ask yourself what is the right way to judge Diddy's appropriate sentence? I don't have an answer for you. That's for us to discuss. But I think that's at least the thing we need to think about. And I don't think it's as cut and dry either way.

[E]

I say something because whatever I'm going to say, I'm probably most likely going to get on for. So y' all go ahead.

[C]

No, I, I think as potters we should not do that. We should either say it or not say it. But since you said as I'm trying.

[A]

To build suspense for what he got to say on some. The up.

[C]

Speaking. Calm down, Mr. October.

[A]

Yo, when you win one season, the other teams get the footage. Yeah, yeah. They put two defenders on you, too.

[E]

We too focused on me at this moment.

[C]

Just make them go less focused back.

[E]

On the topic by saying that statement. Well, because I wanted to hear you out before I said anything, so.

[A]

So what you're saying is we weren't too focused on you and you made it about you. Good.

[E]

Playback.

[A]

I got.

[E]

Or maybe I was being a team player and Pack passing the ball.

[C]

Being a team player is not saying.

[E]

Just let a lie.

[A]

Like so.

[E]

We want to hear what you got to say.

[C]

Come on, Mr. October. What you got to say you don't even got.

[E]

Morally, no, morally, I. I agree with her. Victim impact statement should be considered right? Morally, yeah, but he's not on trial for that at the moment. Whatever she's speaking to in that, Marcus said that.

[C]

It don't matter. They'll clip it up.

[E]

Let me.

[A]

Let me just say. Let me add a second place spotter.

[B]

Let me say something.

[A]

Are you still on your take from the second place?

[E]

You think that's wise?

[A]

Y' all playing dirty with that? Yo, boy.

[E]

I think it would be a horrible statement to convict a man with 11 years for prostitution if that's what he was convicted for. And that is the crime that we are speaking to. We're not talking to about anything else morally, anything else that we've seen. Because all that shit we've seen, we thought were disgusting. We still think it's dis. Well, I'm speaking to the law. The law.

[C]

Right.

[E]

So he was convicted of prostitution.

[A]

Right.

[E]

I don't think anybody up here would want to Sentence Someone to 11 years in jail for prostitution.

[C]

Here's what the prosecutor will say to you.

[A]

Did you fault one of my prosecutors?

[E]

Nah, you gave him all this.

[C]

All right, see, here's what the prosecutor would say to you. Part of what we have to determine is a person's ability to go back into society, a person's threat to society. That's what they would say to you. And that if this person is known for physically attacking people, for averting the law, for doing all these things that we might know factually, even based on Diddy's own and his lawyer's own testimony during the trial, yeah, I did these things. I'm fucked up. But that's not what I'm on trial for. That's the argument.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Should that impact. The prosecutor would say that should impact the sentencing because this person's not ready to go back right now. This person doesn't deserve to get right back into society because of all the harm that we know they're going to do based on what they did last month, last year, last decade, et cetera. I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm just saying there's an. I don't think it's cut and dry. I'm inclined. So people say, I don't give a take. My suggestion is people should not be prosecuted or sentenced more harshly because. Because for crimes that they weren't convicted for. That's my general rule. Cause the system has to be fair. Because while we might hate what Diddy did and hate Diddy, that could also be used for somebody else. That could be used for our uncles and our cousins and our aunties and our sisters when they get a relatively minor crime like shoplifting. But they say, yeah, but we know they were selling drugs, right? And then suddenly somebody's getting two years for a misdemeanor because of what we think or even know they. In the community, the system has been able to make its, prove its case and meet its burden. I don't think to your point that that's necessarily the moral answer, but the law and legal ethics is not the same as morality. And we have to make a distinction between sort of our own moral compasses and what legal ethics.

[E]

And at this point, he's no longer. Well, he's no longer on trial at this point. Everything is done. We've already decided morally how we view Diddy, right? Morally, we look at him how we.

[B]

Look at, look at him.

[E]

He's been on trial in that sense for us from day one. And we kind of closed the book on that. He's he piece of shit. He did what the fuck he did. We don't fuck with it. Boom, boom. If he was on trial for that, slap him with whatever sentence you can give him. Because it's clear as day for us, all this other stuff that the man act and all the things that you could not get on him, and you caught him on prostitution. Now, let's go by the law. That's the fair, fair way to go about this process at this point. We have to remove our moral stance at this moment and just deal with the outcome that we got dealt with. He did not get convicted of the man act. He did not get convicted of this. He did not get convicted of trafficking.

[B]

None of it.

[E]

He didn't get convicted on that. So whatever was provided by the prosecution wasn't enough to get the law, the people who were actually his jurors, to convict him on that.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

So we have to now move from that process, remove your moral feelings, remove all of your personal shit. He's going to be sentenced to what is the fair sentencing for what he was convicted for?

[C]

So let me ask you a question then. How do you determine. How do we determine what a fair sentence is? Because if there's a guideline two to 10 years, how do we decide who gets two and who gets 10?

[E]

Case study, which is what the prosecution is supposed to bring up.

[B]

One thing they look at is this is a first time offender as well.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

It's not many first time offenders that you could justify giving the max to each count. Catch marries up to 10 years.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So you look at. They're asking for 11. I don't. A repeat offender. Yeah, I'm with y'. All Piece of. We saw the video.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But at the same time, that's not what we convicted of.

[E]

We said that if the prosecution can show case study of past convictions that led to that level of sentencing and.

[C]

The prosecutor is saying yes, cool.

[E]

If they can do that is the prosecutor's argument.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

To be clear. Sake. That is the prosecutor's argument that there are comparable cases to Diddy where they did get those tenures. I don't know if it's true or not, but that's the prosecutor's argument to be clear. I got that today. New York Post reported that. That's what I'm reading it from today.

[E]

If they can provide that, then I'm all for whatever is the end result. Because at that point then everything that you're saying as far as the other things that he might have not been convicted for or judged based on could affect him moving in society after that. And they can show past situations where that person got 11 to whatever.

[A]

Cool.

[E]

But if there's not enough evidence to show that at this point, and that's the hard part, then we have to convict and sentence him in the proper.

[C]

Manner because no two cases are the same. So what they're gonna do basically is draw a parallel between him and somebody who's probably nothing like him. Now you have to do that cuz no two situations are the same. No two people are the same. And so the debate probably is going to be how comparable to. To Diddy is that case, is that case study. We're drawing from those cases.

[E]

That different type of powerful man who has access to a whole nother world in comparison. So I get it.

[A]

Who Here thinks that puff is getting 11 years or more.

[E]

No.

[C]

1, I think this is what I think he's going to get. I think if he gets 11 years, it's going to be mostly supervised release and home. They may want to put a big number on the board so they can say we sentence him to 11 years and to keep a kind of surveillance on, which is another thing that the state does, which again, I don't love in general is they instead of giving you six months, they'll give you five years with four and a half suspended or whatever so that you're home. But you're always at the doorstep of the criminal legal system. So that might be what they do. So to answer your question, it would not shock me if they gave him 11 years, but he's not gonna spend 11 in prison. I think they may give him 10 years, eight and a half suspended. He's already done a year. He does six more months. That's how I think it's gonna look. Look, that's what I think is going to probably happen.

[A]

See, I can't see that you see it differently than me.

[E]

So is anybody that see him coming home Me, that day, I see him.

[C]

Walking out Friday, I don't see him walking out. I think he gets six more. I think he's going to spend six more months. If I were just guessing, I don't know.

[A]

And to me that's the same as coming home.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If they got him in there for six more months and he come home in April for the summer, then.

[C]

And that's what I'm saying, 10 years, eight and a half suspended. That means a year and a half left. He's. He did a year time serve out in six months. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

All right, so that's paperwork tricks.

[C]

That's my point.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That way they. But it's not. They can put a number up. It's not just paperwork tricks, though. It's also for the next eight and a half years, we have the right to watch every move you make in any misstep.

[E]

We trying to get you back in, basically.

[C]

Trying to get you back in.

[A]

I think that's happening for the rest of his life anyway.

[E]

Yeah, period.

[C]

I think so too. But it's even harder when you got to go in for a piss test every month for the next decade. It's even harder when they have a right to run in your career. When they have a right. The. It. It. You just lose so many rights when you're in prison. And when they put you out.

[A]

If they parole you, that's you thinking that parole is the same for everybody.

[E]

It may not be the same thing.

[A]

It's not.

[C]

I. But.

[B]

But I think they mad that they.

[A]

Plenty of times I walked into probation and they made me skip the.

[C]

I don't think that happened. I'm with you, but I think I.

[E]

Fed Pro is different. It's a different process.

[C]

I think they may want revenge.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think that.

[C]

I think they may want revenge. Embarrassed.

[B]

They got egg on the face and they don't like that. So they're gonna try to come back doing that.

[E]

They're just trying to wipe the egg off their face.

[C]

Yeah. So I don't think Joe's take is necessarily wrong. I think it could go that way.

[A]

I'm sorry, Mark.

[C]

Yeah, please.

[A]

I'm not sure why that prosecutor was removed. Public opinion is they have egg on their face from how you lost that case. But that's not the word on the curse. Curb.

[C]

What's the word on the curb? I don't know it.

[A]

I ain't saying it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But the word on the curb is.

[D]

You can believe it, it's Trump nepotism, essentially. Let's just say that.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Because dad was already.

[A]

So, I mean, I'm just saying this is not my area of expertise. And I don't know, more will be revealed and that's when I'll kind of surmise. But. Yeah, I just don't know. I don't know right now. But I don't see him doing 11 years. And even. I agree with some of what you say. Even if they gave it to him, they're not giving it to him. Yeah, they're not giving it to him. And. And I just turned down $50 million from this gentleman four times, three times. I'm getting some money from this. I'm getting some money out of him.

[B]

Get them back. Yeah, get them back in here. That's.

[A]

They playing a lot of people. There were some people that thought that this whole was just to see some assets and gain control of some. Like my conspiracy brain is still in play, but this broadcast is too big, so I ain't gonna talk about none of it.

[C]

Yeah, let me use.

[A]

More will be revealed for sure.

[C]

Let me use my conspiracy brain for this Eric Adams thing too. And I don't even think it's a conspiracy at this point. The current mayor of New York, Eric Adams, has withdrawn from the race. He won't be pursuing reelection. He already didn't run the Democratic primary, though he's a Democrat. So he always was playing a kind of long shot game. He knew he couldn't win the primary as an unpopular candidate, but he thought he he might be able to win the general as an independent. Andrew Cuomo kind of came in and knocked him out the box with that. Zohran Momdani, the Democratic nominee, is leading, but it's far from a finished battle. What the Republican structure is basically doing is saying we're going to take everybody out and make it so that everybody's voting against Mamdani as opposed to there being a field. So the first thing is get Eric Adams out. If he's running at 5%, 6% even, whatever.

[E]

And you said that before.

[C]

Yeah, I told you it was going to happen.

[E]

Right.

[C]

And he's out the neck. It was either him or Cuomo.

[A]

Had to go get homeboy with the little red hat out of there.

[C]

That's it. Curtis Lever, former Guardian angel or maybe he still is. Who knows? Get him out of there. He's the actual Republican nominee now.

[A]

That's get him back to just walking around third half on a 2 train. Let's send him back to where he belongs.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

Guardian angel used to be deep.

[C]

So that means everybody's no more one you can jump. Yeah.

[E]

Guardian angels don't respect that. Please respect that. Red hat in the train station like.

[A]

The warriors.

[E]

Clear for closing doors. Man, get out of here.

[A]

They been back down there since the crime got got lit again.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, homeboy, you can go right down there. They killing.

[C]

But there's a play here, just so y' all know. Right. So Curtis Lewa, I assume even if he stays in the race, probably won't poll super high. But it's hard to get Republicans to not pull the lever for the Republican and to get the. Just the average voter who's a Republican is gonna pull the Republican lever. They're not gonna pull for Andrew Cuomo independent. So they really need Lewa out of there. Right. That's the thing. But this is coming from on high. I guarantee you within the next month, you will see Eric Adams be appointed to something big.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Or something lucrative. That's the play. Trump is effectively pulling Adams out and trying to help Cuomo to ascend, which is wild. Cause y' all remember during the pandemic when Cuomo was on Trump's ass? Yeah. He was Trump's biggest enemy. He was his nemesis. And Trump is once again putting his thumb on the scale and buying his opposition. So just wait for that and then see where Curtis Lebow lands.

[A]

I never thought. Thought that would be your ringtone. Corey. Go ahead. I'm sorry. That was change that you thought that would be.

[E]

That's regular.

[A]

He just got the.

[E]

He got the original ringtone.

[A]

He too tough to do that.

[C]

And also we've been talking big money. Ice. Ice has a story about big money.

[A]

Oh, he knows someone. Freeze.

[E]

One bread.

[A]

You want bread?

[E]

I thought he was going to the joint. I thought he was about to go.

[A]

To speaking of big money. Freeze.

[E]

I was like he Freeze out of here.

[A]

Opposite day. Oh, oh.

[E]

Watch him like that.

[A]

You good?

[E]

Freeze.

[A]

With a church socks. I'm sorry. I violated my man. Freeze. I violated yo.

[B]

Violated.

[A]

Hey, my fault. Freeze.

[E]

He said the church ankle socks.

[C]

Socks.

[B]

These are not church socks at all.

[C]

Black ankle socks, man. Leave my man Flip got to get.

[B]

It off on somebody.

[A]

That's what it is.

[E]

I get at this.

[C]

Getting at the top of.

[E]

That's what you got brought here for.

[C]

Now we are here talking about the top.

[E]

What you got brought here for to talk. You can run your. Your mouth so he can look at podcast is bro.

[C]

We talk.

[E]

It's too many people talking. No, I'm not fry you. It's too many people talking. I'm not gonna talk over a.

[A]

That's.

[E]

No, I'm not gonna talk over you, bro.

[C]

That's fair. All right, so we'll all be quiet. What topic do you want to talk about?

[E]

Nothing. I. I want to talk about you.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

No, no, no, no. Get back to Joe.

[A]

All right. Somebody has to listen to me.

[E]

I'm listening.

[A]

Go ahead. Let's get back to the songs. I got to keep this show on distract. Look at this socks. Yo, don't get distracted. Let me see these shits.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Freeze. That's five.

[C]

Freeze. The clerks.

[A]

Hey, look at this legs. How many times you fell off the bike?

[B]

Just making you trying.

[A]

You reaching for anything?

[B]

Just thirsty over there. Come on. Get something. At least be fun.

[A]

She's not here.

[B]

That's normally together, but make them good though.

[A]

Nah, nah, you. I'm corny now.

[C]

So Electronic Arts EA has sold.

[A]

Oh, God damn.

[C]

All right, break it down.

[A]

He did it again. No, because this time I'm. I'm prepared for him today.

[C]

I don't know the story he wrote on the board.

[A]

I was still confused over your last Saudi Arabia story.

[C]

Oh, I got no. I got no position on this. I don't know the story.

[A]

I'm here what they did so Bill Bur like to do research. That's part of what they said. Bleep. It out, yo. Please, Joe, please.

[B]

But yes, Back to EA EA Was sold to Jared Kushner.

[A]

They got comedy and games.

[B]

No, they got everything, bro.

[A]

They got everything.

[E]

They coming for some other too Y. They coming for a lot.

[B]

For $55 billion billion dollars and went part football.

[D]

They got a football league thing they're doing.

[A]

Mark, can you stop coming in here lying, though? At least like you hear what Freeze is saying. $55 billion.

[C]

55 billion?

[B]

Yeah, with a B.

[C]

What about it?

[A]

Anything about it.

[E]

You would start a whole news channel over there.

[A]

No, if they came. What the is wrong with him?

[C]

Are you saying that if somebody gave me $55 billion, I would take it?

[A]

Is that all you say?

[C]

Yes, sure. Okay, you got me.

[A]

No. To go against your beliefs.

[C]

Oh, it would depend on what the belief was.

[D]

Your beliefs.

[B]

You.

[C]

No, I mean, which of my beliefs. Religious, for example? It's not religious.

[A]

Last part, you said the niggas was cutting Americans ears off, so we shouldn't go do comedy. And I don't.

[C]

It's not American ears I'm worried about. But in terms of Saudi Arabia. Yes. I would not take money from. From the Saudi Arabian government. I wouldn't. No matter how big the check was. I'm not saying in a blanket statement, because we have a gotcha culture where I'm not saying that there's no belief in the world I have that I would not take a step back on, because it would depend on how intense I believe it. For example, I believe in free speech. I don't think books should be banned from bookstores. I own a bookstore. If you gave me 50 billion fucking dollars to ban a book. Yeah, I would ban the book. Because I could make an ethical argument that the $50 billion of what I could do with that, which is redistribute it, not keep it would be far more.

[D]

Keep a little bit.

[C]

I mean, I would keep less than a billion.

[A]

Look how much it would cost to not ban a book.

[C]

I'm just using an example.

[E]

But you said you would keep less than a billion.

[C]

Yeah, I don't believe in billionaires. We're not gonna go here again.

[E]

Oh, I forgot.

[C]

And if I don't say that, then on the 10. Oh, he said you'll believe billionaires, but he would keep the. It's like everything is a gotcha, right? My point is, I am not perfect. I am not suggesting that I don't have things that I fall short on. In the case I just gave, I don't even think that's falling short. I Think there's a bigger principle at play. But sometimes I'm sure if you ask me enough questions, you'll find contradictions. We all got contradictions. I don't claim not to. What I'm saying though is that's a glaring one for me. And when it came to Saudi Arabia last week for me, the issue was it wasn't Ramona's. When she's hungry, you know what I mean, she might take the check for 50 or 100 or 200. Right. For me, some of these people are worth half a billion dollars. You don't need the check, you know what I mean? And I know you let in everybody's pocket. Yeah. Sometimes you can be. If someone is publicly worth a half a billion dollars, I don't think it's asking them a lot to say, hey, don't take this million from a government that is literally killing people. I agree with you, that's all I'm saying.

[E]

I don't have no back and forth about that.

[D]

Anyway, what happened with EA Sports.

[C]

Yeah, that's all we were.

[A]

Yeah. Shut up, Mark.

[C]

You started it.

[A]

Just to catch you in contradictions.

[C]

But oh yeah, if you was gonna be.

[B]

He owned them.

[A]

They all mature about it.

[D]

Yeah, he smoked it.

[E]

You got October.

[B]

Yeah. To Jared Kushner and Saudi Arabian Group for $55 billion. Which affects everything from your video games, your, your Matt and.

[A]

The Sims.

[E]

Why does it affect. Affected. Why do you feel it affects?

[B]

Well, it's now private company, so it's own ownership has changed hands. So it is. It is affected. They could decide to do whatever with it.

[C]

Do we care if you're a gamer?

[A]

You do.

[B]

If you, if you.

[C]

I don't think it's gonna affect gaming at all though. But I get your point. It could, it could. Yeah.

[B]

That's all. It just could.

[C]

Yeah. Hopefully it doesn't.

[B]

I hope it don't. I mean, I still play Madden.

[D]

Me too.

[C]

I do a little 2K, a little Madden, all that stuff, you know what I mean? I'm. In terms of video games, I'm starting to get into it more. More.

[D]

Look at you taking some time off for yourself.

[C]

Yeah, it's like one hour a week. But I bought the PlayStation to play against you. That's up.

[E]

Can I. How do we, how do we feel about these American bred companies like wwe, EA Sport, like companies who are kind of bred in somewhat American culture, feeling comfortable selling to these foreign government.

[B]

I think it's just the next step.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because just like a home, just like a local company company then they go national now to people. National ain't the ceiling no more. Now we want to go global, unfortunately.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And the money ain't here.

[E]

Yeah, but like, at any point, does the. Does the culture side of what we provided get diluted once we sell over? Like, absolutely. That's kind of what.

[A]

Yeah, The.

[B]

The second you start to selling it off, that's. The coach is gone. But a lot of people don't give.

[D]

A. I don't know if I agree with that, because what if I started. Started EA Sports and someone paid me $55 billion to sell said property? I might create some new culturally dope with the $55 billion that I had.

[B]

Yeah, but the name, like the equity that's in EA Sports, let them drain.

[D]

It if they want.

[B]

Who gives a. That being slapped on? I'm just saying that culture itself, that's a whole thing. There's Matt and culture we speak about. There's sims culture that we speak about that is still attached to somewhere else. You could start something new. You got to start from scratch. Not saying you. You won't achieve it.

[D]

A little easy to do with 55 in the pocket, of course.

[B]

Of course. Not saying you won't be successful in starting something new, but what you built here is going now. And now it's. It's. They can put their flavor in it and do whatever they want to do with it, and you just stuck on the outside like, damn, that's my baby.

[E]

Always build another one, especially with more.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

People say that ain't easy. Yeah.

[E]

Famous Amos couldn't build up another cookie, man.

[C]

Well, they took the name. He couldn't use Amos. I'm just saying. Uncle no name.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So I'm just saying.

[A]

And he did come up with another cookie. He had another cookie.

[E]

Yeah, but it ain't. He went on Shark Tank and all that for it.

[C]

It didn't hit.

[A]

That's for different reasons. He could no longer use his own name.

[B]

Yeah, he sold it because he sold it.

[A]

He sold the rights to his name. But what y' all talking about happens in business all the time. The creator of Venmo sells Go creates Cash app. The creator of this.

[B]

Look at Twitter. We talk about Twitter all the time. Look at Twitter.

[A]

This happens too many times for us to debate it.

[B]

And the people that leave certain companies go try to start over somewhere else. And it don't always get to what you're known for. It don't get to that level.

[A]

Separates the weak from the strong. But whether I succeed or fail 55B's a help. Damn right.

[E]

Oh, no, of course.

[B]

You damn right.

[D]

Jack did well.

[A]

Yeah, so Jack did super well. Yeah, a few times.

[B]

I was about to say he's still doing well.

[E]

It's a big difference from jumping from company to company within the the US territory and all at in comparison.

[A]

How much money you need to sell me a Patreon, man?

[E]

How much money I need to sell you my Patreon?

[A]

Yep. As it stands right now, no more growth.

[E]

You're being funny, right?

[A]

No, that's your. You built it up, it's strong. I'm looking at future projections. I'm just using this as an example.

[E]

But am I still involved with the creative process and all the next five years?

[A]

You going to run it for the next five years?

[E]

I want to answer this on a serious way.

[A]

All right, so come back to me later.

[C]

Yeah. Can I ask you a question on that too? Is there anybody you wouldn't sell it to? Also.

[E]

If the number question Charlie Kirk.

[C]

Before he passes away, says I want your Patreon.

[E]

You know what? You're right. No, there are certain people I wouldn't sell it to.

[C]

Am I one of them?

[A]

Yes.

[E]

No.

[A]

No.

[E]

I will sell it to you.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

You do a really good job with it.

[C]

Oh, I would. I'd have all kinds of things to say about you.

[A]

That nigga will call up that unpublished. He called up that African couple. All right.

[E]

Oh, man, watch them out.

[A]

Watch.

[C]

Time for another game of horseshoes.

[A]

I got another plate for us.

[C]

Can y dance salsa?

[A]

I watch them.

[E]

I watch them. They was talking to some other people too. The lady on there, she was talking to another couple.

[C]

This.

[E]

I went to night school.

[C]

Oh, you talking about as. Okay, every. You talking about my week. That weekend show that April Silver does on my. Yeah, just cuz they dark skin don't make them African. She's from.

[E]

She said I'm not. That's not me.

[C]

She.

[A]

No, the people I'm talking about were doing African dances.

[C]

Yeah, he just talking about any dark skinned person.

[A]

Well, that's that cultural.

[E]

I will say this, cuz I. Oh, boy. Hey, yo, y nigga's crazy. Are you crazy?

[A]

You're not fba.

[C]

You're not fba.

[E]

No, you're not fba.

[A]

You and I shout.

[E]

But hold on, listen.

[B]

How the I get in this?

[C]

He ain't got nobody else to pick on.

[A]

That's all. Oh, and your views?

[C]

My view?

[E]

You shout out to FBI I with fba.

[D]

He infiltrated.

[E]

Shout out to. Shout out to that b I with him but what I'm saying is that I don't think any dark skinned person is African.

[B]

That's not what I'm talking about.

[A]

All right. Oh, you.

[C]

That's a great input. Thanks.

[A]

I didn't even know you still on that.

[C]

Yeah, I totally move past it.

[A]

That's peace.

[E]

Yo, Mark, you playing with me, bro. You to take naps.

[C]

I think you're doing great today.

[E]

You playing?

[C]

Playing. I don't want any problems. I love you, Flip.

[E]

See my history. You playing.

[A]

I want.

[E]

I don't want no problems with you.

[C]

Same look.

[E]

Yeah, Mark, I was just saying too, you need to take naps. Got to get some rest, Mark.

[A]

Yo, I'm directing the show.

[E]

Oh, you. Oh, my bad. We forgot Y. You think it's wise? You think it's wise what we doing?

[A]

Go ahead.

[E]

No, I was. No, I was. I would say because I watched the last Night School. Mark, you work a lot. I know we keep saying that, but just brother, you know, everybody. I was watching and I literally saw your eyes at a certain point. Like you could have possibly fell asleep.

[A]

During your pause for looking at niggas eyes. I feel you.

[C]

I appreciate that. I appreciate it. You need to take some naps now. I'm reconfiguring my whole thing. So, you know, starting probably next week. I just gotta get some ducks in a row. I'm gonna start the Patreon and it's gonna allow me to have to go live.

[E]

Yeah, we playing around.

[B]

Are you doing live on the Patreon?

[C]

I'm gonna do a little bit of live, but what I'm saying is I'm gonna do some more pre records so I don't have to be up at 11 o', clock, 12 o' clock at night. Got you broadcasting every night. Cause it's becoming taxing. Especially after the 14 hour days here.

[E]

That's true. Blame up here, Milk. Don't blame them here, Maze. Nah, you're right.

[C]

How do you decide when to jump on a side side?

[E]

I'm never on your side now.

[A]

He's always on my side.

[E]

I'm not on your side.

[A]

Read the comments.

[E]

I'm. I'm never on your side. You.

[A]

I don't with you. I don't with you.

[C]

I'm just.

[E]

I'm just trying to figure out.

[A]

I don't with you. I don't with you. Or that now as soon as he.

[E]

Start I with him earlier. I'm not.

[A]

I don't with you either. You with Mona though, right?

[E]

I with Mona.

[A]

Yes. All right.

[D]

Oh, good.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Good, good. That's dope. We all do. We love you. Good.

[A]

Good to see you. Gotcha. I have two segments that y' all won't necessarily give a about here. Let's see it. 1. I want. I just want to say my heart goes out to Mets fans.

[C]

Mets fans.

[B]

What happen?

[E]

So.

[B]

Oh, they lost.

[A]

The Mets missed the playoffs. I heard.

[C]

Do you know how terrible they are? I'm sorry, I want to step on.

[A]

Your thing, but they're not terrible.

[C]

They have no pitching.

[A]

The Mets are not terrible at all.

[C]

I disagree.

[A]

Do you follow baseball very closely?

[C]

Probably more closely than you.

[A]

You don't follow baseball more closely.

[C]

Okay. Did you know that the Mets are 0 and 70 this season when trailing in the eighth inning?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

That's an unprecedented number. That means that at the end, they have never had a comeback. It speaks to. They have an excellent closer, as I'm sure you know. But the problem is they never get to that point. You know what I mean? Because they're struggling. Mid lane signing Soto was great. They packed up their offense. They had some injuries at pitcher, but at the core, the Mets don't have a pitching staff that matched their offense. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

I know, but you're talking about what happened. I'm saying there's not a Met fan anywhere in New York City that didn't think they were due for a deep playoff run this year. Year. Especially after what happened last year.

[C]

I think that's fair. But they.

[A]

They should have been very Met ending.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Even for Met fans. I'm a Yankee fan, so, you know, something bad happened. If my heart is going out to.

[C]

Y', all, that's why I'm shocked. You said it.

[A]

The Mets have the second highest payroll in baseball. The Nets. The Nets. The Mets had career years from everybody they wanted to have a career year from. From. They had a great off season last year. The Mets fans were looking at Yankees like. Yankee fans, like, hey, we got y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Get the out of here. Y' all a little brother now. So what happened? For them to not be able to go, they needed to win two out of three. Okay. Either two weeks ago or a week ago.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And. And they went to Miami. I mean, they went to Florida where the Marlins are trash. I think the week before that was the Nationals. The National League is really, really, really, really bad. And they lost two out of three each time. Yep. They only needed to win two out of three. And they failed both times.

[C]

Two weeks ago, they had an 84% chance of making the Playoffs. To your point, they only had to win. To go from an 83% chance two weeks out to missing the playoffs is a stunning. You're right. It's a very Mets collapse.

[A]

The Reds are in the playoffs.

[E]

Yo, stop, stop, stop disrespecting the Yankees. This is another curse that we've bestowed upon the Mets like we did with the Reds socks. That's all this is. Yo, Soto left.

[C]

Well, y' all should use some of the energy for yourself.

[A]

Cool.

[E]

At some point, the Yankees gonna figure it out. They go it. They always do. Even if you get four, five, six years. I agree.

[C]

If you spend enough money. This is. This is my thing about baseball. You know, unlike other sport like basketball, you can spend the money, but just payroll. I mean, there's a salary cap. Elite teams in elite cities, if they pay it, spend enough money will be okay. The Mets are kind of the exception sometimes, but with Anaheim, with Los Angeles.

[A]

With Philly, the Marlins have the lowest payroll. Payroll in baseball.

[B]

Yeah, basically, they should not have lost to the Marlins is what you all said.

[C]

No, I don't follow baseball.

[A]

Two out of three.

[C]

Two out of three is rough.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

But again, even at the beginning of this season, and I think I tweeted this, but I don't know. I'm sure they'll tell me if I didn't. But I know I've said it a lot, lot. The Met. I was always worried about the Mets pitching stamp. I never thought that they had the depth. And they went through, I believe, 45 pitchers. It's either 45 or 46 pitchers this year. That is an unprecedented number.

[E]

That's crazy.

[C]

Again, some of that is injury. Some of that is bad luck, just regular. But to go through 45 pitches in one season, it's the curse. Maybe y' all should stop cursing the jail you prepared for me, the one you going to ride in. You know what I'm saying? Like, maybe you understand the Phillies need to stop cursing people and focus on the Yankees right now. And by the way, it looks like, I mean, the Phillies, I think, are the strongest team left. The brewers are also very strong. The Dodgers are always the Dodgers. My worry is that if anything, in the last since the advent of the wild card, the team that has the best record isn't necessarily the hottest team going in. The Phillies had the best record in baseball last year, were second best. But the Mets mopped them coming in because the Mets were on a tail. You know, we've seen that with Houston. We've seen that. You know what I'M saying we've seen that several times where the team that's hot is want to make it. So this year, even though the Phillies. I say that because I was scared of the Mets going if y'. All. If the Mets snuck in. I was terrified of the Mets because they also been kicking our ass as Phillies even in the midst of their struggles. Baseball to me is not always about the best record. It's more like the football, at least when I used to watch it, which is sometimes that wildtire car team that's hot is more dangerous in the team that gets the buy but hasn't won. That hasn't won. We saw that with the Eagles a few years ago when they had. They won 12 games, got their ass kicked in the first round like so. Baseball's wide open right now. I'm still thinking the Phillies are going to win the National League.

[A]

Stop it. See? All right. Mute his mic. All right. Enough of him.

[C]

Yeah, you're right. That's crazy talk.

[A]

He's doing great.

[C]

The number two team. We have the second best record in all of baseball. It's not crazy to think that we could win. The brewers have the best. So again, the hottest team will win. We'll see.

[A]

See? We'll see the Met season freeze. There's 162 games in baseball. I'm freestyling.

[C]

Yes, you're right.

[A]

Let's say they went. Let's say they won 30 or 50, then they lost 17 or 20, then they won 10 of 17, then they lost 17 of like. That's what I'm saying about this season.

[C]

It's an epic collapse.

[A]

Got it. Got it.

[C]

It's an epic collapse.

[A]

This is like when up and so.

[B]

Where I understand it, this is like a couple years ago when my team, the steelers was like 11 and 1 or 11 and 2 and bombed the.

[A]

Entire rest of the similar. But imagine that happening six times in a row. Cuz we talking about 100. Imagine that happens in a row. Bomb.

[B]

And then you catch another pick up.

[A]

Again and look like the best team and then you look like the worst team and then that like got it.

[C]

But is that.

[E]

Is that based off of. What are you saying? Like injuries and just.

[C]

It's partly injuries. Starting pitching and some of it is just the juju Dr. Right again. Last year the Mets were to come back kids, you could go into the seventh, eighth inning that they were going. They were down five sometime going into the eighth and would win. They didn't win one. Listen. They didn't win one game that's crazy.

[A]

That's 0 and 7, I think.

[C]

I believe the number's 0 and 70. It was 0 and 68. Like. And I believe the curse of the.

[E]

Soto man to not win any.

[C]

Just not win extra inning games.

[A]

No, he had a hell of a year. Don't do that.

[E]

No, no, I'm not saying curse on him.

[C]

He's a great, he's great.

[E]

I'm just saying when you, when the Yankees lose that type of player.

[C]

Remember we were talking about that if Joe wasn't here that day, we were talking about Soto and again I was like, if I'm Soto, I'd have stayed in the. I would have stayed in on the Yankees.

[E]

Me too. But good, good job, Soto.

[A]

And oh, and if there was ever a year where the Yankees should have made the playoffs, it was this year.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So now you have the Yankees in. Had the Red Sox last night and the Mets out. New Yorkers and Yeah, I get it. And New York is lit when all teams make it.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah. Like when both teams make it, New York is a different place. So my heart goes out to you Mets fans. It's bad, it's bad, it's bad. And, and what was my last one that you guys don't give a about? Okay. It's my fashion segment around a bunch of. Oh yeah, unfashionable. Oh for sure. Telfar is coming out with a Timber Timberland.

[B]

I got the email.

[A]

Did you see it?

[B]

Yeah, I got the email yesterday.

[A]

I did want to know everyone's thoughts on this. Telfar is the black brand that fucking Beyonce blew up and everyone was running around here with the bag Telfar. They're putting out three Timberlands. One is the super, super high drape down. They're all. Two of them are drape downs. Super high thigh high drape down. The second one, one I think for 350 is up to the knee, big drape down. And the last one is like a Sandal Erickson. I'll send you a picture so we can maybe put it on the screen. But I know Louie and Tim Timberland had their collab mixed reviews. This Telfar, that second one I think is gonna go. But which one?

[C]

The mid one? Yeah, the mid one is the one.

[A]

I just, I do think that that's gonna go.

[C]

That's the supplies.

[A]

But for Timberland fans, right? Who there's. There's never been a Timberland for more than was not a Timberland right now for more than 250, $240. Timberland fans getting adjusted to these new prices from the collabs. I know the Louis boot was 12, 1500, $2,000. This is more affordable. Different brand. But one, what do y' all feel about a lifelong brand like Timberland now doing these collections like Kith does? One. And two, how do y' all feel about it as Timberland wearers?

[C]

I'll say this. I think. I think it's great for the company. I think the collabs are great. They inject energy, new designs. I think generation of people will love it. As a nigga from the 90s that wore Timbs, and we didn't even let people wear Timbs that didn't have leather.

[A]

The other sole.

[C]

Yeah, we call them butt naked sleeves.

[A]

Single sole Timbs.

[C]

Yeah. If you walk around butt naked, we was kind of. I will never wear anything but traditional, Tim. I just. I just never would.

[A]

Oh, but.

[C]

But I ain't mad at people who do. I just. I'm just an old man at this point.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

But this is a whole different.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

I don't look.

[B]

I'm quite the same way.

[D]

Yeah. This is like a different design.

[B]

And I think this going to work.

[A]

Well, it's a collab.

[D]

Yeah. But I'm saying it's different from a Timberland. Yeah, it's a different shoe. Yeah, it's a different shoe.

[A]

Would you wear that?

[D]

Not that one, but I would wear some other timber.

[A]

Would you wear the Lou timber? It. Got it. Got it.

[D]

Well, there's a couple different ones. I think I like the ones that was just regular new bucks.

[B]

Them Bronx holes going to tear that tall timbering boot up.

[E]

That mid one is that.

[B]

I don't know what y' all tear that boot. You going to see that boot.

[E]

You going to see that mid one. The mid one is fine.

[B]

But that tall one in particular, you will see a lot of. For sure.

[A]

All right, all right. I just wanted y' all quick opinion on that one. I know that we're not a fashion show, but.

[B]

But they gonna put the boot with the bag. Trust me.

[A]

Piqued my interest.

[E]

You gonna wear it. You gonna get it.

[A]

I would get the. I would get the mid one.

[B]

You gonna get the tall one.

[A]

And I got both of the Louis. The Louis Timberland ones. The laces and no laces. I ain't wore either one of them yet. You kind of get them. You kind of get them because you can't get it. If you don't get it, you can't get it. They're not gonna sell it. Again, then you. Then you. So. And I got mine from Louis. Not the re. Secondary market, where that shit went absolutely crazy.

[B]

I'm about to say they get of rid.

[A]

Eat. That's.

[B]

That's who do it.

[A]

Secondary market, though. I guess I bring this up to say I'm a fan of like. Like staple brands. Like, lifelong brand, like Lego. Y' all familiar with the Lego story?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. The way they do all the collabs.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

About how the collabs kind of brought their business back after they were in the tank.

[D]

I just saw the sga. Chuck some is hard.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. N. They are fire. They are fire. I'm in the Anthony Edwards commercial, so I'm going to slow down on that. Let me see. Let me see.

[D]

You don't got.

[A]

I mean, that was just cool.

[B]

If that's what you into, you know, that should be.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that was cool. Good show today, gentlemen. For sure. Good show today. Good show today. Shout out to. Our brother is here with us in spirit.

[E]

I know.

[A]

Mark, you got to get out of here, right? You fight traffic.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And freedom.

[C]

Traffic and freedom.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Traffic.

[A]

Yo, Imani, if you have a Potter of the Month speech, you want to get off before Mark leaves? So just so he can hear it and be salty in the car?

[E]

No, you should just go watch the clip that I left.

[C]

I watched the video you made.

[E]

Okay, That's. She watches everything, bro. Yeah, I felt like that's all that was needed to be said, but, you know, just. Good luck. Today's the first. So moving into this day.

[C]

Yeah, just keep.

[E]

Let's keep it together.

[C]

Let's see if you can do three in a row.

[E]

It's a feat, you know? Hey, we'll see.

[C]

It's never been done before.

[A]

Shut up, Bart.

[E]

Still did. Still did the Irish.

[D]

Safe travels, bro.

[E]

Get this safe.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

What else needs our attention? You guys. You guys are killing it. You guys asked.

[E]

I wanted.

[D]

Maybe we could do it on Patreon. I'm curious to hear conspiracy theory about one battle after another. I saw the movie this weekend. It was one of the best movies I've seen. To me, it was in the same ballpark as Foxy Brown, Pulp Fiction. Like, whereas I. I said the Zoe Kravitz movie that came out earlier was kind of in that genre, but didn't knock it out the park. They absolutely smoked this movie. The acting, the casting, the cinematography. In particular, the. The. The chase scene on the desert highway.

[E]

Was absolutely incredible yesterday. To me, my favorite movie of the.

[D]

Year so it's my favorite movie the past 10 years. Easily.

[E]

Yeah, I' ma just keep it because I know people are so big on sinners this year. So cool.

[D]

I love sinners, but it was great. This is a different level of.

[E]

This is different. This was fire. Everyone acted they ass off.

[D]

It's rare that you can get a movie that is political and funny and not only is it political and funny, it's political and funny if you are right leaning or left leaning because it shows the left being kind of goofy and extremist and it shows the right.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Be in the right.

[E]

I love the mix of the casting too.

[D]

Yeah, the casting was great.

[E]

Casting was great.

[D]

Leo bodied it. Benicio Del Toro bodied it. Of course. Tiana bodied. I wish she was in there a little bit longer. But it is what it is. The daughter, Chase Infinity, I believe her name is the actress's name. She bodied it. Absolutely great. It's great to see original film again and to see it executed.

[E]

Regina. Regina hall, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. Regina hall is underrated. Yeah. It comes to her skills on the screen. I know a lot of people lean into when she does a more funniest and more playful, but she can act her ass off.

[A]

The.

[D]

The music was great. I think the guitarist from Radiohead did that. He did a bunch of other movies as well. The music, original music and the songs that they chose to use. I don't know if it's a spoiler alert, but American Girl, when it did happen, phenomenal. Absolutely bodied that movie. Yeah, absolutely. But 10 out of 10, 12 out of 10. Go see it immediately.

[A]

Some people have this as. As a. As a top three, top four Leo performance.

[D]

It might be the.

[E]

I won't say it's hot though. It's high. But I wouldn't give it.

[A]

You said. I'm just telling. Some people are saying they're. They're holding it in pretty high regard.

[B]

It's think that.

[A]

And that's not.

[B]

You don't think that's recey bias? No, I'm saying good movie.

[A]

It was. It was too good of a movie for me to only focus on him. I'd probably have to watch again.

[E]

You know, it's funny. I feel like you. I feel like you undersold it a little bit because you did say it was dope. You said you had a great time.

[D]

But which in itself is. It's rare for a Joe Button positive movie review.

[A]

So that alone should.

[E]

When I walk, I walked out of there like, holy. This was.

[A]

I was a little up when I walked out of there. And not so much a conspiracy, but I guess it hit so close to home. We joke up here about Mark being a freedom fighter and yada, yada, yada. And they focused on freedom fighters. Yeah. But they also. Also focused on some of the other groups.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And you, I think.

[E]

What. What? Also the timing of it now.

[A]

I don't want to blow that Sean pen at the end.

[D]

Yeah, it was crazy, yo.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Deep.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't talk about it.

[D]

Yeah, no doubt.

[A]

No.

[D]

Spoiler alert.

[A]

We don't Deep. Go see the movie. You should check it out.

[D]

You should absolutely go see the movie.

[A]

It'll fight with weapons and. And sinners for movie to year.

[C]

You ever.

[D]

You ever seen a. I loved weapons and sinners, and this smoked them.

[A]

To me, in terms of being a.

[D]

Movie, this movie was absolutely incredible.

[B]

Weapon.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Weapons is dope. But this. I wouldn't even put this in the same conversation. I wouldn't even put that in same.

[A]

This was a deep movie. All right, listen, check it out. If you haven't seen it. What?

[E]

No. I want to ask. Have you ever sat. Sat your kid down and forced them to watch, like, a certain movie? Like a real important movie that you feel like they needed to watch?

[A]

Watch? No.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

You could have stopped that after. Have you ever sat your kid down?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I've done that with. I've done it with music, and I haven't had to, but I've had the important music talks. Like, hey, do you know Ice Cube? Do you know nwa? Do you know Cypress Hill? Do you know. I didn't do the movie test. All music.

[D]

I find that when you sit someone down and make them watch a movie, that they didn't have interest in the beginning. The beginning never works.

[A]

Nobody gets pissed off but me.

[D]

Yeah, word.

[E]

So I.

[D]

They fall asleep. I'm. I'm not mad. I'm gonna watch it.

[E]

I was watching. I was watching old school movie. Well, not old school, but older movie. Last American Virgin. And that to me, that movie. Every father should sit his son down to watch that movie.

[D]

I've never.

[A]

I've never seen that movie. Never heard Last.

[E]

Last Virgin.

[A]

Virgin.

[E]

I never heard that movie.

[C]

It's.

[E]

It's.

[A]

It's not you Last American non version.

[E]

As far as that. As far as that conversation of nice guys finishing last. It's the epitome of that as a film. So as I was watching, I was like, this might be an important movie to show your son the balance between being a good guy and not being the pushover. And you couldn't relate to that, though.

[C]

You playing.

[E]

You can't relate to that.

[C]

Yeah, I just.

[E]

It was just. You don't finish last.

[C]

He finished first.

[E]

See you playing. I was saying that literally just because I was thinking for everybody with kids. Have you ever had that moment where you watch the movie and you feel like it's something that you needed them to watch to get a life experience from kids?

[A]

I was doing that with the young. Why Purple Rain?

[C]

Yeah, Purple rain is one of those.

[A]

Talk about the kids, not a kid, kids. Bad, bad.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

I'm joking aside, making your girl watch.

[A]

Some is it's only going to be you with the egg on your face.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

She going to get up, go to the kitchen and not ask you to pause it. Word. She ain't going to ask you to pause it. Go to the bathroom. I can still hear it from here.

[D]

You're missing something.

[A]

What you going to ask questions? Yo task.

[D]

I used to use week this week I still.

[E]

I haven't watched that show yet.

[A]

No comment.

[E]

Hey, I can see why you got upset with black Black rabbit too.

[D]

Black rabbit is fire too, by the way.

[B]

I just started.

[E]

I haven't seen that either. Episode two or three. I'm like. I started to get upset. I'm going finish watch it, though. You watch tv?

[A]

Yeah. Black rabbit is annoying. It's great with great actors, but it. It's annoying. Yeah. It ain't. It shouldn't be talked about with t. What you saying?

[D]

Yeah, I haven't seen this week, but.

[E]

It'S been, you know. Did I watch tv? You don't take me as somebody that got enough time to sit on watch tv. N. I'm home all the time and I'm watching tv.

[A]

Oh, that's all right. Shout out to your household. Make some noise. Flips household Y.

[D]

That's true.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Don't clap. Don't clap for my household.

[E]

I don't talk about yours, homie. Don't clap for my house.

[A]

You do talk about mine.

[E]

After I got checked, I never talked about yours again.

[A]

Thank God.

[E]

Yeah, cuz I respect my man.

[A]

Thank God. I want to come do some checking. Yeah?

[E]

Where in my house? You invited?

[C]

Come through.

[A]

OB Bad. Yeah, you.

[B]

You watching svu?

[A]

Excuse me?

[B]

Are you watching SVU now you with SVU Like. Like they killed off homeboy dad. Yeah.

[A]

Who?

[E]

Captain Captain.

[A]

Captain Craig.

[E]

Captain Craig Krager. Which one is that? The bullhead captain.

[A]

The white boy to do.

[E]

He died for some they ain't say well how he died.

[A]

They a say nothing.

[D]

Just contract. Free negotiation. He died of contract.

[A]

They killed him and didn't show.

[B]

I didn't say the new season started with. With them at the funeral. Like, it's just a picture of him on the, on the.

[A]

They'll explain it later.

[B]

I, I, I don't think so.

[E]

Hopefully so. But I think that they trying to treat like he just died from natural causes.

[A]

They did the same thing with stapler when he died. And then he came back seasons later. I mean, that died, but you didn't know what happened. Like, Law and Order is pretty good with closing the. Closing a chapter to a story and reoccurring characters.

[E]

And he was so important.

[A]

I was kind of like how you.

[B]

Just start this with my. Wait, what?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's too important for them to not explain that. They probably will.

[E]

They get around.

[A]

But I did see a little rest in peace floating around that Everybody up.

[B]

You cut that on. And it's like they walked in and it's the funeral on, on a, like the board. It's just his face on that.

[A]

I don't watch Law and Order as it airs.

[B]

Oh, okay. Got it.

[A]

Yeah. But I did on that. Just see what's going on. I think we covered everything that I wanted to cover. If you guys have something that's really important near and dear to your hearts and homes, I think we did it. Please.

[B]

Oh, I did see. I, I did finally see him.

[A]

The movie.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I, I was, I was completely pissed off. I was mad at myself. Like, why the did I even. I told myself I wasn't gonna watch this, but I'm like, all right, let me. It's Marlon. I With Marlon. Let me give it a shot.

[E]

Marlon did good.

[B]

He did.

[A]

He did.

[E]

Marlon did good in there.

[A]

I enjoyed him.

[B]

I'm done. I'm done.

[E]

It was done with Jordan Peele movies.

[A]

And again, it's not a Jordan Pill. Produced. We don't care.

[B]

Produce. I don't care if I see a country Paul, and see that little.

[E]

You're not watching anything.

[B]

I'm good.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

He he.

[B]

Sorry, bro.

[E]

They lean too much in, like, surrealism and movies and all that other, like, it's just, it's too much. It's you making more complicated.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

What the. What is the purpose of this film? What are you trying to get across? You don't have to hide it.

[B]

And I understood what they was trying to say. I got the contract with. It just wasn't executed right to me. I'm not the and the coming back in bump. Yeah, but I'm cool.

[E]

Salute to Marlon, though. He did his thing.

[B]

Yeah, he did good.

[D]

I'm never watching it.

[E]

Hey, there we go. Never watch Skippy. Come on, play that. Gotta play that bone thug.

[A]

Jo.

[B]

Skip it.

[A]

There you have it. Just skip that one.

[D]

Let's go see one battle.

[B]

No, no, no. If I don't go tomorrow, I'll go Thursday for sure.

[E]

Totally watch that movie as well.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

I know what that is. We got to grow your hair back.

[C]

E.

[A]

Can't believe it's October already, man. It's Halloween time.

[E]

Velma season.

[A]

And Libra season. Libra again. Oh, my God.

[E]

Velma season lighting up.

[C]

You see Libra.

[A]

Okay, I'll be horny later. If you made it this far, we appreciate you. Thank you very much. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering. Delivering it to you. Until next time, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you a due farewell. Adio. Cerebra. Dir. Hasta la vista, Arvois. So long. Goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Hey, remember, life is a series of moments and moments. Moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. What y' all doing this week? Anything interesting?

[E]

Anything interesting? Nope.

[A]

Anything fun? Anything new?

[C]

Anything exciting?

[A]

Never that.

[B]

I'm catch the movie.

[A]

Oh, Wash.

[B]

I'm gonna catch the movie. I'm hitting the circus this weekend. That's it.

[A]

The circus? Yeah, there.

[B]

Universal. That's the one.

[A]

It's never.

[B]

Yep.

[E]

They don't show animals anymore though.

[A]

Right, Freeze?

[B]

N. It's performances.

[E]

That's not a circus universe.

[A]

Soul is lit. Leave alone a circus. No animals. Ice is the man. Yo. Ice is so on brand. Ice found the circus. Olay. I will go the tickets. No animals. Just the performers. And we going. You're going to your girl, your kids, the family. Okay, so we can't clown somebody. The kids is going. But I used to be liking the kids stuff too much. That's my beef with it.

[B]

No, I like the kids. I like watching them at the kids stuff. They enjoy that. They light up. That is a good feeling. So I enjoy it.

[E]

They still do the tightrope up there, Freeze.

[A]

Yeah, all of that you gotta be careful with. Freeze too, man. Me and Freeze did a little. Let me turn this down. Play a little music bad. Me and Freeze did a little play date for the kids and shit. To the trampoline house. You can't. You got you can't do that with freeze.

[E]

Cause you'll jump in.

[A]

No. Cause you'll be in your phone, chilling, ignoring your kid, being a bad dad. And freeze. A jump up run. Go save his daughter from turmoil. So now you gotta get up and save your kid from the table. Same turmoil.

[E]

It's like, nah, let him do it.

[A]

I'm getting out of here. Nah, my kid. I almost wanted to fight 11 of those kids. Yeah. Chamberlain park is at least 11 of those kids. If you got kids, don't do. It's not working.

[B]

I'm gonna give y' all something. If you got young kids.

[A]

For real.

[B]

For real. Trampoline park. Go early, go 10, 11 o'.

[A]

Clock. When somebody do the Roddy Roddy Piper leg leg drop on your kid's neck, you're gonna feel away once it's about.

[B]

3, 4, and the older kids get there, time to go.

[E]

Those are spaces where kids get to learn how to interact though, with strangers.

[B]

And I'm gonna learn how to interact with stranger kids.

[A]

That was even creepy how you said that.

[E]

But stranger kids learn how to interact with other kids.

[A]

You little freak.

[C]

They can do that in school.

[B]

My not jumping and landing on my kid.

[A]

Yo, y' all hold it down out here, man. Y' all have a good week. Same time, same place this weekend. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Yada, yada, y', all yada. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. Until next time, man. Y' all hold it down. Hey, wait a minute. Hey. Hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wayne said Unvalcardi and Ice Spice, but I'm totally fine skipping that. Yeah. Patron. Patreon. Patreon. Subscribe to the Patreon. If you do not have it, shout out to the patronies. Shout out to everybody out there with a Patreon. Wait a minute. No, no, no, no.

[D]

Jody.

[A]

Jbp. Jbp. Where would you be without the jvp? You've never heard of Joe, buddy, we'll fold that up right now.