Episode 866 | "From One Crash Out To Another"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 866 | "From One Crash Out To Another"

Date: October 4, 2025
Host: Joe Budden (and The Joe Budden Network crew)

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Episode Overview

Episode 866 delves deeply into hip-hop’s most recent and heated online beefs—centering on the erupting Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj saga and the surrounding drama, including JT’s involvement. The cast also explore social rules around family loyalty, music taste as a “love language,” the Diddy sentencing, and the impact of high-profile legal outcomes on hip-hop. Lively as always, the conversation balances humor, musical critique, cultural commentary, and wild storytelling, reflective of the unpredictable, close-knit banter that defines the JBP.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Diddy Sentencing – Real-Time Updates & Reactions

• The pod kicks off with anticipation for Diddy's sentencing, following the trial live and sharing their bets and predictions.
  • [00:56] Joe: "The Diddy sentencing is happening, and me and Ice are very intrigued. We've been listening... Just waiting, just waiting, reading, reading."
• They reflect on the court's language about using acquitted behavior in sentencing and puzzle over what is an "appropriate" punishment, stressing wariness about the precedent it sets.
  • [184:09] Mark: "You shouldn't hold people accountable for things they were found not guilty for... but the judge legally can."
  • [185:16] Parks: "50 months."
  • [185:59] Mona: "That's not that bad. That ain't..."
  • The consensus: Tough, but could have been worse. Speculation abounds about how time served, good behavior, and halfway house programs could reduce Diddy's effective sentence.

2. Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj – The Social Media War

• The pod dives into the recent, multi-day back-and-forth between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj:
  • [17:38] Mark: “Since our last episode, the world has been watching ... a major battle between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj. They've been going crazy on the Internet.”
  • The chaos is described as both "hilarious" and "unhealthy," becoming addictive appointment viewing.
  • [20:04] Mona: "I am concerned for Nicki Minaj. [...] Everything is like encrypted. Only Barbs can understand the language... when you start talking about stuff like, 'I'm a prophetess and Jesus is going to do this...' that’s sliding into something else."
• Sensitive boundaries are debated—especially, the consensus that targeting each other's children, or fertility struggles, is wholly unacceptable.
  • [21:10] Mark: "Once the kids got into it, I don't even get into who's right and who's wrong. Just talking about anybody's kid is not okay."
• The group also discusses the escalation into offline action.
  • [25:42] Joe: "Cardi basically said, all right, listen, dog, let's stop tweeting, I have to see you."

3. JT vs. Cardi B: Diss Tracks Dissected

• The crew break down both of JT's diss records line by line, pausing to analyze punchlines, flow, and strategy.
  • [36:44] Joe: "So JT put out two disc records against Cardi B. Has everyone heard them?"
• Notable lines are highlighted, discussion includes the effectiveness of personal attacks, credibility, and flows.
  • [43:05] Mona: "Your mammy ran a whorehouse. The only time I seen you with a pen was at the courthouse. That was city girls Wan up..."
• General consensus: First diss is a 6.9–7/10, better than expected, with a direct approach and good cadence. Second diss is less impactful but serves as a strategic street release.
• They discuss the strategy behind releasing both tracks quickly, hinting at the fast pace of modern beef and music release cycles.

4. Music Industry Insights & Commentary

• The group jumps between the role of fashion and “money talk” in disses, the power of streaming to change hip-hop battle culture, and why some attacks land harder than others.
  • [45:26] Mark: "All y' all got plastic surgery, all y' all got writers... But everybody don't have the same plastic surgery..."
• They critique the shift away from foundational beat-jacking for diss records in favor of original—but sometimes less energetic—material, lamenting the lost art of battle rap with familiar instrumentals.

5. Women in Hip-Hop: Legacies, Unity, and Cycles

• They examine whether female rappers can break cycles of competition and isolation, calling out the generational pattern from Lil’ Kim to Nicki to Cardi.
  • [71:22] Flip/Mark: "When are they going to break the cycle?... Did Kim do that to Nicki?"

6. Music Identity—Bullying & Love Languages

• Wild tangents explore how people judge others' tastes, and whether compatible music taste is a relationship necessity.
  • [81:36] Mona: "If I was dating a guy and he didn't listen to certain [songs]... I would absolutely not with him because of that..."

7. R&B Album Releases: Bryson Tiller, Leon Thomas, Blast

• The pod does live reviews of Bryson Tiller’s two-disk “Solace and Devices” and the new Leon Thomas and Blast singles.
  • High praise for Tiller’s growth and for the genre-blending of Leon Thomas.
  • They theorize about competition in the male R&B lane, and what sets new standouts apart (“the other bag”).

8. Other Topical Banter

• Recurring themes include:
  • Early driving stories and insurance hustle ("crash out" literal and metaphorical).
  • Philadelphia/Jersey driving woes.
  • Family drama (is it okay to cut off toxic family?).
  • Classroom and birthday song “racism” debates—how intent, institutional awareness, and cultural specificity should inform the conversation.
  • Whether teachers and other institutions demonstrate adequate cultural competency.
  • Music snobbery, playlist habits, and how “required listening” becomes a test in relationships.
  • Funerals, family beefs, and death etiquette (should Ashanti have attended Irv Gotti’s funeral?).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [20:43] Mona (on Nicki Minaj):

  “... when you start talking about stuff like ‘I’m a prophetess and Jesus is going to do this ... that’s almost like getting, like, religious psychosis, like sliding over there. That sounds like somebody need to see if she okay.”

• [21:10] Mark (on Cardi/Nicki beef):

  "Once the kids got into it, I don't even get into who's right and who's wrong. Just talking about anybody's kid is not okay."

• [25:42] Joe (on beef escalation):

  "Cardi basically said, all right, listen, dog, let's stop tweeting, I have to see you."

• [32:12] Joe (on fighting in adulthood):

  "If the nigga I'm beefing with, if I know that he's willing to fight in places that I'm not. You won. The Met gala is on that list for me."

• [45:26] Joe (on diss bar hypocrisy):

  "But everybody don't have the same plastic surgery."

• [184:09] Mark (on Diddy sentencing):

  "You shouldn't hold people accountable for things they were found not guilty for ... but the judge legally can."

• [189:57] Mona (on the court process):

  "Even saying to the judge, 'Oh, I was using them for companionship.' It's like, why would you even go that route?"

• [101:48] Parks (on teacher's birthday song):

  "She calls monkeys motor like she should..."

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Important Timestamps

• [00:56] Diddy sentencing anticipation
• [17:38] Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj social media beef analysis
• [36:44] JT diss tracks vs. Cardi B (played, dissected, rated)
• [54:03] Crew rates JT's diss track (6–7/10)
• [96:54] Mona and Joe: honest reflection on jail culture and advice
• [113:12] School hair rules—hidden biases and parental resistance
• [137:01] R&B competition: Leon Thomas vs. Blast
• [185:16] Diddy receives a 50 month sentence (minus time served)
• [198:08] "Part of the show": family betrayal dilemma
• [203:53] Ab-Soul vinyl freestyle cleanup (the redemption verse)
• [210:17] Weekend plans & episode wrap

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Tone & Style

• Loose, Roasting, and Candid:
  The JBP cast members are irreverent, quick to tease each other and guests, often employing inside jokes ("Mary Bertram President?"), regional biases, and open debate.
• Reflective & Serious When Needed:
  Discussions on boundaries, family, and legal matters are balanced with humor but grounded in lived experience and empathy.
• Culturally (and Musically) Literate:
  Deep cut references and knowledgeable critique are a constant, whether about invisible lines in beefs, the meaning of “real” bars, or historic cycles in hip hop feminism.

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Final Summary

Episode 866 of The Joe Budden Podcast delivers signature banter and “inside the culture” insight, centering chiefly on hip-hop’s ongoing Cardi B vs. Nicki Minaj/JT drama, the serious implications of Diddy's sentencing, and the nuances of both online and offline beef. The crew offer sharp musical criticism (with plenty of laughs), draw lines around what is or isn’t up for grabs in diss records, and weave in sidebars on love, loyalty, family, and cultural identity, all in their raucous, self-deprecating, and unfiltered style.

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**For listeners pressed for time:

• Core Cardi/Nicki/JT beef analysis: [17:38]–[65:00]
• Diddy Sentencing deep-dive: [00:56], [184:09]–[189:41]
• Ab-Soul freestyle redemption: [203:53]
• Part of the Show (family loyalty dilemma): [198:08]
• R&B new releases, industry talk: [123:35], [137:01]**

For believers in hip hop’s messiest moments and sharpest analysis—don’t miss this one.

Transcript

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Yeah. All right, listen, if you're looking for puff updates, we got them.

[B]

Huh?

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We're the new Inner City Press.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

What's his name? Inner City Press. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yo, Ice gonna get us the facts. Look at Ice. Listen, man.

[E]

Yeah, we wanna know what the fuck.

[D]

Is going on while we recording this, y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

The Diddy. The Diddy sentencing is happening, and me and Ice are very intrigued. We've been listening to this for, like.

[A]

An hour and a half now. Just waiting, just waiting, reading, reading.

[E]

Every update, taking bets.

[A]

Let me try not to be a dick today. What are y' all betting on? Oh, what's gonna happen?

[D]

The verdict.

[A]

The verdict. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. Cause Corey was like, he coming home today. Corey's still holding on to the ditty. Coming home today.

[E]

That's where I was until I saw the judge say, this judge look like you. I object to all of that.

[A]

I was like, oh, we will have.

[D]

A different president before he come home. That's what it's looking like. But based on the trial updates I'm getting right now. Yeah.

[E]

We're not getting no more presidents. What you talking about?

[D]

Okay, that's true.

[A]

That's fair.

[D]

You think this is Big T Will be the six years by the time.

[A]

What?

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Yeah.

[A]

What year is that supposed to be?

[D]

We supposed to have another three years.

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20.

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23.

[D]

Yeah. Three years.

[B]

Damn.

[D]

It's only been a year.

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Yeah.

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Not even President.

[A]

Eleven months.

[B]

Not even. That's crazy.

[A]

He been in there getting to. Oh, man. What's up? What's up?

[E]

What's up, man?

[A]

Y' all. Yeah, good, Y' all good. Y' all good. Y' all chilling.

[E]

Great, great, great.

[A]

Good, man.

[C]

Feeling amazing.

[E]

Ready to pod, man. Ready to pot.

[D]

Ready to pot.

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Good.

[D]

Uneventful couple days.

[A]

Ice looking like my favorite Haagen Dazs caramel shake. You can tell when his girl dressed him. He ain't put that little number together.

[C]

He took that little athleisure talk in the last pod.

[B]

The heart.

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Oh, my beard looking like a good milkshake. Hey, bringing all the boys to the yard. No, you don't have to take this, Ice. I'm coming to that yard. I'm coming over There you wearing.

[E]

You got it, fam.

[D]

This is a HR violation for sure.

[A]

This only show. Is that all right?

[C]

What's up, Flip? How you feeling?

[B]

I'm chilling. What's up, man?

[C]

I'm chilling, feeling good.

[D]

I like that Malcolm X you got on.

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And if I give you diamonds and pearls, audience Flip is wearing a beautiful, beautiful Malcolm X sweatsuit with diamonds on the X. Rhinestones.

[B]

Shout out to them. Shout out.

[A]

It's dope.

[B]

I like it.

[D]

Where you get it from? 125th.

[B]

Nah, nah, I get it from in Brooklyn.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Utica.

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Yeah.

[B]

Legends walk.

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That hoodie. That hoodie is fire.

[B]

Appreciate that.

[A]

That hoodie is fire. That's a fire sweatshirt.

[B]

How you doing, man?

[A]

I'm good. Sure like the deodorant.

[D]

What's good?

[A]

Oh, I'm good. I'm real good.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Do you have anything to say about our music topic?

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I don't.

[A]

My, my, my, my. Check what you want?

[B]

King Fuck is up out there.

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I.

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Took the crown, infiltrated their fortress kidnapped.

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The queen rode away on white horses.

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Shout to wherever you might be listening.

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From west coast what up right now.

[F]

Courtyard 400 horses crowd make the towers fall 911 Porsches number nine Jordans pause the eight forces torches gold bars melted in what return Rolexes Niggas got bright.

[B]

Links to burn loyalty to earn royalty.

[F]

To who it may concern it's the.

[B]

Los Angeles king snap blood sitting firm on the st I don't give a.

[A]

In the boat and let the boat.

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And let the boat and let the.

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Boat I don't read the double Excel told the 45 the church think I'm destined for hell oh well blood tears off the face of my Jesus piece It's bloodshed fill the cracks in my city streets I'm from the crack of them city streets Used to sell crack in them city streets Morning glove in the coma five days life of a thug nigga my main show grandma almost pulled the plug Used to pull the gun out just because he cuz gang what up, chest of the head? Big Jersey.

[A]

Big Jersey Whole New York City smell.

[B]

The C Bodies riding down green leaf no peace so don't get caught up with no peace Fat burger, we cooking that real beef mama's morning.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I've been on this album in the gym, back on my workout vibe. Amazing. Really good workout album. Shout out to everybody in the gym right now Shout out to everybody outside Running, tracking, health is worth Remember that people.

[B]

On stage was hip hop's makeover in that very day you knew was born Talented creators Drake J. Cole and Big Sean. Time for the world to pay homage.

[F]

Bow to the rap gods or the K Pop.

[A]

Let it go to the chorus.

[F]

If you ain't, then you ain't get your dick wet.

[B]

Shout out to the first and last.

[A]

Time listeners out there.

[B]

Shout out to the patrolis out there.

[A]

On the sub group. Shout out to the Libras. I guess. Yeah, I guess.

[F]

Sometimes I gotta step in the church.

[A]

Cause I try to go to hell.

[B]

As the blood spills from my pen? It's time to confess my sins.

[A]

Cause I ain't trying to go to hell.

[B]

I smoke weed, pop pills. But I'm thinking it's time for me to chill. Cause I'm trying to go to hell.

[A]

All right, man, we got a great show lined up for y'. All. Really good show lined up for y'. All. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. They wasn't there for all this, Mark don't know what's going on right there. This is Game Mark.

[D]

Really popular song.

[A]

Need a Game album this year, man.

[D]

Yo, we always need a Game album. Let's get right to it.

[B]

Of a dynasty. So I told Vibe magazine Visions of making the classic. Then my world turned black Like I was staring out.

[A]

All right, y' all ready? Y' all ready? Y' all ready? Yes, sir. Y' all ready? You ready? You ready? You ready? Oh, man, that's a good one there, Joe. I've been waiting for days to come in here and do that.

[E]

That's a good one.

[A]

And you could have.

[E]

And you could have kept going.

[A]

I've been with. I definitely could have kept going. Game got. Game got a lot of joints. Joints.

[C]

We do.

[A]

Game got a lot of joints. All right, let me get these drops out the way right quick. Keep the applause going for the best crew in the universe.

[B]

Who is that?

[A]

It's Mark.

[D]

Lamar Hill.

[B]

Puzzling, puzzling pussy.

[A]

All right, what episode is this?

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866.

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Welcome to episode 866 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang.

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You.

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I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right. Mona is late. But I knew that Mona would be late when I hired her because she's driving from far. And you know, women can't drive drive. So, yeah. Wait, that's bad to say, right? I mean, if it's the truth. Yo, I got. We driver good drivers. Got a list of bad drivers. And, boy, the public shouldn't hear it.

[E]

Yeah, Boy, it's a lot of names for them if we say those.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Just women.

[E]

No, no, no.

[D]

It's groups.

[B]

Might be good doctors.

[A]

Hey, and that stereotype is dead on.

[C]

Couple of them.

[B]

Couple of them even with glasses. That's right.

[A]

No, it never failed. When I'm mad on the road and look to the side like, yup, yup, yup.

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I know it.

[A]

I know you.

[E]

I was right.

[B]

They do the nasty Sideswipe too.

[A]

And we don't know what day permit test is like over there. We don't. We don't know what they license tests look like.

[B]

Like the roads are w. We don't.

[A]

Know what they doing. Actually, mine I ain't have to do. You ain't have to learn how to drive. You have to really know how to drive to get your license. Over here. Hey, you turn K, turn. Park the parallel.

[E]

That was it.

[C]

That's the hardest one.

[A]

That was the hardest one.

[E]

As long as you ain't break no laws, ain't hit you was getting a license. Back then, you could fail one part of the test. Now you can't.

[D]

Yeah, that's true. I was a terrible driver.

[E]

I felt parallel parking. As long as you don't fail two parts, you still got your license.

[A]

I don't know if I failed when I first took it, but it wasn't conclusive. They. They told me to do. Come do it again. You failed.

[C]

You failed?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That means.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Cuz if you pass, you'd have got your license that day.

[C]

We don't look down on you because.

[E]

And you're a good driver.

[B]

How many tests you took? Just two.

[A]

What do you mean that's it? Just two. Oh, y'. All. The car that I brought was illegal. It wasn't it didn't.

[E]

You took stolen cards or this?

[B]

No.

[A]

You know, they had Jersey shit ever Jersey.

[D]

I get one on the way.

[B]

No.

[A]

You know, they have the list of that your car has to be. And the car that I brought.

[E]

Can't have a stick shift. Gotta have emergency brakes.

[A]

Yeah, it was a lot going on in there. And the car that I brought, I couldn't do it, so I had to come back.

[E]

Okay, got it. That's different.

[A]

That's. That's what happened. Y'. All. Y' all know I could drive. Don't do that. Well, some of y' all don't know.

[E]

Maybe back then you might.

[A]

Yeah, 16 might not have had it back.

[D]

You learned how. Like I learned how to drive by getting in accidents. Like, I didn't. I couldn't drive until I could drive, but it took like two years. You get between like 16 and like 19, like maybe five.

[A]

God damn.

[E]

And now that explains.

[F]

Is it?

[D]

Yeah, but now I'm a great. I'm a great driver.

[E]

Successful.

[C]

You just went on the whole thing about your tires on the side of the road and.

[D]

Yeah, but that's. That's skill driving. That's like. Sure, that's like stunt driving.

[A]

Those. That age is when you are supposed to get into all your accidents. Yeah. That's why you insurance well under 25.

[D]

Right.

[C]

That's when I got my accents.

[D]

Yeah. I'm saying. And then after that, I mean, some of them was like sideswiping cars like that. You know what I mean? Like little. Little things.

[C]

Side swiping cars.

[E]

I mean, park cars.

[D]

Yeah, I crashed.

[A]

I mean, they just jumped out in front of you.

[C]

Pennsylvania drivers have a little bit of a reputation.

[D]

See, I think New York drivers and Jersey drivers have a reputation. I know.

[C]

Jersey drivers have a reputation.

[D]

I know, man.

[B]

I crashed into a house.

[A]

You crashed into a house I came from.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Tried to hit somebody. I crashed to a house at a young age.

[A]

Excuse me.

[B]

Yes, but I also crashed.

[D]

You can't just say shit like that and keep going.

[B]

Yeah, no, I was trying to. I was trying to hit somebody.

[C]

I was trying to hit someone up.

[B]

Being the house was standing still.

[A]

That's like your life stories.

[B]

What? My life story? Trying to hit somebody and cry. What? Explain the correlation.

[A]

Yo, I'm telling y', all, I don't know.

[B]

Hey, yo, champ, listen. Anything referring to houses, stop playing with me and like that, you heard?

[A]

With houses.

[B]

Yeah, that's like your life story. I tried to hit somebody and I crash into my house. You said that's like your life story. I don't know what subliminal in rapam you playing with, but don't play with me, bro.

[A]

It was a good one though.

[B]

But yeah, on Dunkirk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Guys swung at me through the window.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Backed up. He stood in the yard and I.

[D]

Tried to hit him and he moved. Was it his house you hit? He moved.

[B]

No, he moved and I crashed.

[A]

He o.

[C]

Laid you right into the house.

[D]

Once you saw he was going and the house was still there. Why didn't you hit the brakes, man?

[B]

You mad in the moment. I'm in the moment, man.

[D]

I never mad at the ride through.

[E]

A house you crash out.

[C]

I never tried to hit someone with.

[A]

The car crashing and insurance and all of that stuff is normally one of the first lessons black people get in not putting shit in other people names. True. Yes. We didn't know when we let the person we love get insurance in our name and then they kept crashing.

[E]

Or the other way around. Yo, what? Trying to get the insurance in your name at a certain age. Like again, I tell y', all, I worked in insurance. A lot of the shits that worked against you, your zip code. So if you lived in certain inner cities, it's higher.

[A]

Oh, wait. By now. By now, the audience should know some of the game. This is the game right here that you're giving out. Yeah. This is the stuff that the. The. The novices don't know. They're looking to find out on the phone. Your zip code, your neighborhood. Do you have a driveway?

[E]

You married?

[A]

Yeah. Are you married? Garage Crime in the area. Stolen car. Oh, yeah.

[E]

Red or black.

[A]

And I want a red car. That little red two door Maybach look nice. But insurance.

[E]

Insurance gonna be higher.

[C]

Insurance kind of car. What kind of car?

[A]

Yeah, even that. That Human psychology. Why does red make you want to steal the car more?

[C]

They say it's more likely to get pulled over too.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Isn't that.

[E]

Red is. Red is the first recognizable color by the human brain. So it's just something in there. That red. Red jumps out.

[D]

Make me want to steal it less. I do look good in reality. I love red.

[E]

Red's my favorite color. Remember that red coupe I had? High as shit. And then that's when we learned. Oh, shit. In this state, it ain't that high.

[A]

You was one of the first niggas I seen come through the hood in a red car.

[E]

I've had three or four red cars now.

[A]

I talked a lot of niggas down from trying to speak bad on your name. Can't just come around. Yeah, my nigga called Red. What's up?

[B]

You also learn a lesson when n ball your life, you know when. Use your license and license. Use my license? Yeah, man. Got a lot of tickets under my or. That happened before. Use your license.

[E]

Your picture on your license. How that work?

[D]

They look like there's more people that look like you.

[A]

Yes, yes. There's people that like me.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

And I'm pretty sure a lot of them cult members use your license too. Man, we ain't had no license.

[A]

They weren't allowed to drive. Right. Them built that sphinx without a hand truck. Talking about a car.

[B]

So y' all walked over there, y' all walked to the spot we.

[D]

I had. I was allowed to keep my car because I was the driver.

[C]

Y' all tried to Keep it real authentic to the real pyramid.

[D]

Shit.

[E]

Don't push the ride. There's something in there.

[A]

Yo, look how they programmed him. I was allowed to keep my car. No, your car was the goat car. It was. That's like. It was like the golf cart. And we riding with Mark the fucking time I was allowed.

[E]

That's your job to drive.

[A]

All right, listen. A lot to get to. Some of it I thought we wouldn't get to, but I spoke to the fellas and I was wrong.

[C]

From one crash out to another.

[D]

Thank you. That's just where I was going.

[A]

That was a good one. That was smooth. That was smooth. You should write for South Park.

[C]

Also smooth also. That was good.

[D]

Well, since we're here.

[C]

We are.

[D]

The last couple days, since our last episode, the world has been watching a major cr. Well, I would call it a major crash out, but at the very least, a major battle between Cardi B and Nicki Minaj. They've been going crazy on the Internet, the back and forth. I'm bothered by it, but I can't stop. It's like a car crash. I keep watching it even though I know I shouldn't, and even though it's really unhealthy.

[A]

Once they got started, the next day at around 2 o'. Clock. The day after that, I woke up looking forward to it. Yeah. The day after that, I was like, ooh, I can't wait for one o'. Clock. They gonna get right back to it again. And sure enough, as God would have it. Hey, Mona. Hey, Mona. Hold on, let me hit the round of floors for a real Mona in this. Hold up, man. Here we go.

[F]

I was driving like a girl. I went to East Orange and Brook.

[A]

Wait, what's in East Orange?

[F]

Harlem.

[A]

Wait, what are you talking about?

[F]

I drove. I went to East Orange. I went to the wrong address, but I went to East Orange.

[D]

You went to this. I get you. Like, you typed in the address, but you went to the East Orange version.

[F]

Yes. I was driving like a girl. That's what I said. I kept getting confused. It was too much.

[D]

That's just what they were saying.

[A]

Philadelphia school system.

[C]

Back to that Pennsylvania driver's shit again, Mark.

[F]

It's difficult. I think coming from where we from, it's just difficult. It's like congested. It's difficult. And then people from Jersey can't drive. Exactly. All that together. It's hard.

[D]

It's nasty. I've come up here a couple times from Philly. It's a pain in the ass.

[F]

I stopped doing it. Yeah, but I, I feel like you get the hang of it. But like one wrong turn, you really somewhere else. Like.

[D]

Yeah, you got to make illegal roads.

[F]

Reversed and all.

[A]

Maps, gps.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Where's R?

[A]

Yo, that happened to me before though. I can't even clown you where. I gave my driver the address and he put in an address that wasn't quite the same address. And like I was, thought I was had to be on time somewhere and I got out and he had left. Now I'm just at the wrong address, waiting. It's traffic. I'm like, how did you fuck that up? Yeah, going to the wrong address can be tough. So I'm glad. And you're new, so it's gonna take a while to learn how to get to what you put in the gps. Yeah, there you go. But you're looking good.

[F]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, you looking good. How you feeling? And I'm glad you're here right before our shit. Cause I know where you at. I went and did my research on you. I went and did my research on you, girl.

[F]

What that mean?

[A]

Well, I know what side of the fence you're on.

[D]

As a matter of fact, why don't you take it away? Nicki and Cardi.

[A]

Go.

[E]

Nicki and Cardi.

[F]

First of all, I don't know what these fellas are talking about. I am concerned for Nicki Minaj. I feel like first of all, the way she keeps posting about this stuff like Roc Nation and these different names and all that, right? She hasn't given any background information. So when you expose to something and you don't tell the whole story, it makes you look like, like crazy because we don't understand it. Everything is like encrypted. Like only speak to the barbs. Only barbs can understand the language or something because it doesn't make any sense to everybody else, right? But when you start talking about stuff like I'm a prophetess and Jesus is going to do this, like I'm going to send Jesus on you, right? That's almost like getting like religious psychosis, like sliding over there. That sounds like somebody need to see if she okay. Like that's how I feel about it.

[A]

And I absolutely love Cardi saying and I'm not on Roc Nation.

[C]

Yeah, that was funny.

[A]

Why the fuck do you keep talking about Roc Nation? Yo, this shit, some of it has been funny, some of it I wouldn't touch with a 20 foot pole. For sure.

[D]

The not funny part and the not touching with a 10 foot pole is the part that I find the Most disturbing. And that is the kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Once the kids got into it, I don't even get into who's right and who's wrong. Just talking about anybody's kid is not okay.

[E]

I checked out right away. So that started.

[D]

I was like, this is not funny. When Cardi said that her kid's favorite color was five, I said, that is not funny, and nobody should do that.

[A]

It's.

[D]

It's beyond. It's beyond the pale to me.

[F]

I don't think you said that. I think you laughed hard. I think you.

[A]

Thank you, Mona.

[D]

Thank you, Mona.

[A]

Thank you, Mona.

[B]

That little he knew that niggas be listening too. Yeah.

[A]

That little he knew.

[F]

And people talk about people, kids. People get mad and say, you and your big head, son.

[B]

People. That's whack, though. But you can't do it, though.

[A]

I'm not doing trash.

[E]

I'm not doing that.

[F]

I haven't seen anybody say it, though. But every. When you. You see the discourse online, it's all, you don't do that. You don't do that. Every time I see you argue on Facebook, that's what y' all do. So people do it.

[A]

You just.

[C]

Facebook is a different.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

They different world classes.

[F]

Everybody on a high road, though, Like. Like, they don't do that. Like this. I mean, that's what people do with these times. You get mad, you talk to the Internet, you sub your friend.

[A]

I don't do that when I'm mad. Oh, you don't? Facts talking about somebody's kid.

[F]

Oh, no.

[D]

Yeah, we never do that.

[A]

But I get your point that people clearly do it.

[F]

Cuz people do it.

[A]

They did it for days. Yeah, like what?

[D]

They can't.

[A]

My respect level goes.

[B]

Goes down.

[A]

My respect level goes down, though.

[B]

Nigga, that talking about people, kids. Yeah, it's disgusting.

[F]

When Cardi tweeted stuff that was like, sound like almost she was concerned. You think she was being smart or was that for real?

[A]

Yes, I think she was being smart. I think both of them have been being smart about all of this.

[D]

Feigning concern for each other. I didn't like the fertility stuff either. I appreciated that Nikki kind of walked that back and said, you know what I mean? Like, we shouldn't make fun of people for not being fertile or having fertility issues. Like, again, they threw a punch and then pulled it a little bit.

[A]

Bit.

[D]

But I thought that needed to be said. Making fun of people's kids, making fun of people's health. All that should be off limits.

[F]

It should be.

[D]

It should be.

[A]

But like we said last part. I do feel like certain women play at a different clip. Like they get nasty too nasty. Like Michelle. Michelle Obama says, when they go low, we go high.

[E]

But what they say, when you go.

[A]

Low, I go low. We go low, we go to hell.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Hell, right?

[A]

Yeah. Like, I couldn't do that even if somebody was doing it to me. Same. Like, I would feel like my karma is affected.

[F]

You couldn't do it just to kids, but at no point in your life would you have been there. You would go back.

[A]

I had kids early. I had my son. I was 20 years old, 21.

[F]

Oh, so you feel like as a parent you can't do it. Cause you understand.

[A]

But even. And I saw some people saying this to Cardi, like, where I come from, you're not even supposed to do that when you're pregnant.

[F]

Oh, no, you're not. You're not. Not pregnant.

[A]

We supposed to be just trying to get a healthy baby out.

[F]

Yeah, it's a superstition that, like, something bad happened also.

[D]

Just leave people kids out. Even if you ain't got no kids, don't plan on having no k. Leave people kids out. That shit to me agree, is a very basic rule. The other piece of this is if.

[A]

My kid is slow. I know it. And you ain't gotta tell me. There's that, like, help community. Like, don't. I don't. That's crazy too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we have the conversation here about. Well, we've had it before about this country and how they are quick to throw that tag on the kids and some of the medicine and how it relates to that and the numbers spiking recently about kids that are. It's serious.

[C]

It's serious. That can get tricky, though. My wife works with children and she tells me horror stories about parents that should put their kid through some sort of medication or something and don't because of the stigma against it.

[D]

Right.

[C]

And this kid is literally like assaulting teachers and other students and there's literally nothing that nobody can do about it because. Because.

[B]

Him up.

[D]

Just for the record, before they attack us, we're not suggesting that anything is wrong with Nikki's kid at all.

[A]

I'm not talking about nobody's kid.

[D]

I know. I just want to be clear because I don't need my time.

[F]

We don't even post her baby enough for you to be able to judge it for real.

[B]

N. We come from different times.

[F]

She don't have her baby all over the Internet. We don't even know his name.

[E]

And you don't have to know his name.

[C]

Yeah, that's how it should be.

[D]

Really?

[E]

Yeah, Yeah. I tell people all the time, yo, keep your kids off the Internet. Like they don't have your kids best interest in heart.

[A]

Have they thrown shade? That didn't have to do with the kids. That maybe we could talk about. Cause I don't even feel comfortable covering that shit.

[D]

Well, that's why I was thinking more about the JT diss at this point. Cause at least there it's off the kids, and at least it's a clap back and at least there's some content there.

[A]

Let's go, Mark.

[D]

Did y' all like it?

[A]

Well, wait, before we get there.

[B]

If.

[A]

Somebody do happen to talk about your.

[C]

Kids.

[A]

Because Cardi basically said, all right, listen, dog, let's stop tweeting. I have to see you.

[F]

I said, yes. Hey.

[A]

Yeah, hey.

[E]

We don't have enough of this.

[A]

I heard you. You heard me.

[E]

You've crossed the line.

[A]

One thing that's glad I have. I have to see you.

[B]

It's just a whole.

[D]

I respect that. I mean, I don't agree with it, but I respect.

[E]

I respect it. We know Cardi said that about somebody else.

[A]

Cardi, when she make her mind up, I gotta see you.

[B]

But she shouldn't be fighting, pregnant, or doing anything.

[A]

Well, then, you seen Nikki say, then get your sister.

[F]

Yeah, she had cavers.

[E]

Yeah, but see, I don't like that. Only because.

[A]

Oh, that's fire.

[E]

No, no, no, no. I'm gonna tell you why. Because Cardi's response is, okay, where are y' all at? Let's stop talking. All of our DMs are open. We can meet up now. Ice these pictures again. I. I get all that.

[A]

We can't never say the loud part out loud.

[B]

You just said it, though.

[A]

I tried to whisper it, but I'm afraid, too.

[E]

I get.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

These is going drills. So don't say, let's see me then.

[B]

Some of their crews just came home.

[E]

Nah, y' all for real, Breeze.

[A]

I'm telling you something, man.

[B]

And they own it. Freeze.

[A]

That's what they say.

[B]

I wouldn't give my address neither. I mean, they gonna meet up. Oh, okay. I'm coming right now. Where you at? Yes. You in Harlem. We outside.

[E]

Exactly. So I'm not gonna invite you. If I invite you, if I say, yo, if I'm arguing with you, let's say I'm on that. Yo, flip, enough of this shit. You've done it to people.

[B]

Where you at? Yeah, that's stupid, though. It's ignorant bitch.

[E]

If they gave you the address or if they was on it like that, what's their response? Months to give you an address.

[D]

Got it.

[A]

But if they not when a ask for mine, you already know.

[E]

That's all I would say the furthest.

[A]

Walmart I could Google.

[B]

I said that.

[A]

To the Walmart in Pennsylvania. I can't understand why you tough be telling the truth about where you at. That's the best time to lie.

[E]

No.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

You coming Them is tough too. Yeah, no. Are you want to know? All right, let's go. Some is ready for that if we going. Some is really ready for that.

[A]

What I'm saying is even if I was that level of tough, you going to waste some gas first. Hey, over there.

[E]

Oh, wait, I left. Never mind, I'm over here.

[A]

Even if ultimately I'm with all the. You guys want to hop on 95 drive north or south for at least two hours? Yeah, you talking about play with me. Especially during Boston traffic.

[E]

I'm in Violet, let's go.

[A]

I'm in Boston. Yo. Hey, what's up? Take the sawmill shower. Hey, hop on the sawmill at 3 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

I'll be right here. That's funny. Anyway.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, what was we saying? All right. I was trying to ask y', all, y' all if that's enough to make y' all have to see somebody. Yes. For me, no, but y' all know how I feel about it.

[D]

You'll be all mature with this fighting.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. And get into the most fights. All this principle. Get the mad fights and then stay.

[A]

There after you have fought more than.

[B]

No, I have not.

[D]

No, I have not getting the most fights.

[B]

No, I haven't. You have more fights than me. 1. As an adult at your big ass age. I'm older than you two and you. Yeah, but we talking about I've been attacked in your 40s.

[E]

It's a fight.

[B]

Your 40s, all it take is one.

[E]

To pop the fight off. Yeah, that's a fight.

[B]

Talking about fights and then you still have to.

[D]

In the last five years, how many fights you been in?

[F]

I was attacked how many times?

[A]

How many in the last five years?

[E]

How many? 40 years.

[A]

You? One.

[D]

How many have you been in the last five years?

[E]

Hold on.

[D]

How many been the last five months?

[E]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Okay. Last five. There's nothing to glorify, but what I'm saying is that he gets in more trouble than me. But let's move on from that. At the end of the Day a nigga that fights, you like to fight because you entice it. Or when you was on that type of time, you nigga, you sit there, you awake, nigga, you don't give a fuck. You walk right in it. I heard stories about you.

[A]

I never been on on it. I never been on it.

[B]

Say that you was. Say Joe would see some right there. You know you walking right through them.

[A]

Well that ain't cuz I want to fight. That.

[B]

That's stupid.

[A]

I make. I have made a lot of bad decisions. I've made decisions. I've made decisions. I walk through there and I know they going to fight. Now I win that award. I've made decisions that will make others fight me or want to fight me.

[C]

A lot of them.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

That's it. That's it right there.

[A]

That's true. That's true.

[B]

The told you ask the DJ to play a record. You looked at the are you crazy? You can't talk to street like that in the club.

[A]

That should have been a fight. But it was cool. Shout out to them. The.

[E]

The fam. The told Joe, are you looking at my girl? And your response I wouldn't. What was your response?

[D]

Some.

[C]

Some shit like your girl is ugly.

[A]

You look at your girl and. And figure out if you think I'm.

[B]

Looking.

[A]

Look at me. Look at you now look at her. Now look at every other girl in here. You can figure this one out. Yeah, but those are my pill days. We talking about my pill day.

[D]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

I was filled up and I shouldn't have been filled up but I went to the hospital with a thumb problem and they subscribed me some and it was dope sick and I was hooked and I was a fiend. I was fiend out and want to fight me.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

That makes.

[A]

So it's the government. No sure.

[D]

You know I always say yes to that.

[E]

Big farmer. Big farmer.

[A]

Yeah. Fucking big farmer. What is the Sacklers.

[F]

The Sacklers.

[A]

The damn Sackler. Those Sacklers and got off scot free. Anyway.

[D]

Can we say this like for Cardi. Like I do respect that you gotta see me. Let's stop all this internship. I do respect that on a certain level. But I don't want nobody in their 40s fighting. Like I don't want none of them fighting and not cause I don't want them to fight. If they was just to go around the corner and fight, I wouldn't give them. But they crews are going to fight. People won't get shot and right. They're the least likely people to fight. It's their cruisers. I mean, look at. I'm old enough to remember Lil Kim and Foxy and all this.

[A]

You can't say that they the least likely to fight when they got it on at the Met Gallon.

[D]

They ain't get it on. People gonna stop them from fighting.

[A]

Yo, if the nigga I'm beefing with, if I know that he's willing to fight in places that I'm not. You won. The Met gal is on that list for me. If I put my suit on and I show up there. Please.

[D]

Right, but Cardi was about that action. That's what I'm saying. But then eventually somebody's gonna get hurt from this, and it's probably not gonna be hurt.

[A]

Cardi B, about that action. Everywhere.

[D]

Everywhere.

[A]

Everywhere you go, man.

[D]

Again, I respect that. I just don't want nature openness.

[B]

You can't take the hood out of some people. You can't take that mentality no matter how much money you get.

[D]

That's a fact. Can't take that.

[E]

Some niggas is willing to die over their disrespect.

[A]

Why is Nicki saying that Jay Z is wearing a lace front?

[F]

I was confused about, yo.

[B]

I went zoomed in. Yo, I don't like that.

[D]

Don't do that.

[B]

Yo, she fucked me up with that. And that's why I gotta get off. I'm about to block Nikki.

[A]

I'm done with her.

[D]

Yeah, I'm done with her.

[B]

Oh, like he got us. But I remember him growing his head up. My whole reality. I'm with you on that.

[C]

Wait, that isn't real.

[B]

No, it is real.

[A]

We're saying it's real. You only had to think about it, cuz she was spot on with that scissor freckles that nobody knew about. I knew about that. But once you come off of a win like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I know hoving do that. I like him. Come on, son.

[A]

That's hov head. Hov head look good. Now a few of these other. That's trying to get the. That's trying to do it.

[E]

She acting like hov is mystical or something, man.

[A]

I gotta be done with it. Then she said that that hov and Beyonce is copying the, the, the, the poses.

[B]

Oh, my God. Hey, hey.

[A]

You make. You making it tough.

[B]

Chill out. She gonna be, man, if you ain't.

[A]

Doing nothing else, going to call you guess who Job. You make it pretty tough.

[B]

Yo, they showed the side by side. I'm like, what? Yo, Nikki Bugging them. Yes.

[A]

Yes. There's nothing else to say. There's nothing else to say. It's nothing else.

[B]

You can't say shit.

[A]

Shit.

[B]

Say copy it.

[A]

Bugging the fuck out.

[B]

Beyonce.

[A]

You bugging out. You bugging out.

[D]

Can I ask you a question?

[A]

My problem. I know she ain't about to jump in these dis record streets. Streets? That's what. That's what make me mad about it.

[C]

Well, eventually.

[B]

But I got a little hope, though. You don't think so? You don't got no hope.

[F]

Why not?

[E]

Yeah, down there, I gotta look.

[D]

Cause.

[B]

Because they're so direct this time. Cause a lot of times it's subliminal, but now they're direct. They're saying things. And I got hope that they gonna go to the records. I got hope that Nicki's gonna finally put the pen to the pad, nigga, go in the booth and call names.

[A]

I.

[C]

In March.

[A]

In March, yeah, March.

[D]

I don't see it happening. If it does, I think it's gonna be underwhelming.

[A]

Really?

[D]

Really, I do. I went back to this. Let me say. Let me be clear. I love Nicki as a rapper. To me, she's right in the top. Is either. It's like top two ever, right? Top two, top three ever. But that don't mean you good at writing diss records. And I haven't seen any. What? I haven't seen anything from Nicki disc record wise that makes me think that she's about to set the world on fire with a dissra. I'm not saying she can't. She's too talented to not always be in the game. But I'm not expecting it based on what I've seen from her. When she responded to Remy Mama, to Remy before, I just. I'm just. I don't. I see good bars. I don't. I haven't seen anything.

[A]

See, and that's the thing. I said that last part too. But the thing about streaming is they've robbed us of great rappers. Picking a beat that was out already and dissing somebody. That's true. And putting it out. So now you're where this songwriting has to come into effect. Where I don't really care.

[E]

That's a stat in hip hop.

[A]

I don't care about before you. I wanna hear grab a beat that you know we like. Yeah.

[B]

Hop on it, smoke someone's boo and.

[A]

Just smoke somebody and let that be the end of that.

[D]

Well, that's what I wanted JT to do. That's what that let's get into jt Cause I didn't like the. I think some of y' all liked it more than me.

[A]

Well, we're gonna talk about it. I got a JT friend of the show. I'd like to thank all these people, friends of the show, but if you talk to them, maybe not. Jt, I wanna say her people reached out last week, like, yo, jt, come up there. Next week is gonna be a big week. And then I was like, I've been around the block too long. I was like, eh, what does that mean? Yeah, no, don't try to insert me in some shit. That's how I got caught up with that Tasha Kay interview. Yeah, don't try to put me in some shit now. And sure enough, as God will have have it some. So JT put out two disc records against Cardi B. Has everyone here heard them?

[C]

I only heard.

[D]

I only heard the first one.

[F]

I ain't know it was two. Yeah, I didn't hear second one come out.

[A]

Well, would you like to hear the one you didn't hear first or you want us to talk about the one you did here?

[D]

Let's talk about the one we did here.

[A]

All right, so let's play the one they did here.

[C]

I think it's this one.

[G]

All rise for the national slander.

[A]

All right, all right. Shout out to academics with the exclusive.

[G]

We are now entering.

[A]

I don't give a. I was too to get that exclusive, baby. I'm sorry, buddy. You got it.

[G]

I open up my ass right now. Tell the wedding.

[A]

Let's talk about it. Talk about it then jt Ugly and pathetic.

[G]

I'm throwing shots at hoes don't stay up to catch it. My daddy so CO P Miami.

[A]

I get to go up the boat hole. Let's go.

[B]

That's fire right there.

[G]

Rebellious fast city girl been there six birthdays.

[A]

Stop it, stop it, stop it. First thoughts. I only I like I mean not now, but when you. When you heard it. Give me your first thoughts. When this came on first eight, ten bars go by you thinking what now?

[F]

At first I thought it was ass it picks up but she even when she's been been been that six birthdays at Disney World like it gets to.

[A]

Picking up right now all you feeling stuff her them schools are telling no.

[B]

I like to you I wasn't mad.

[C]

Her father get it sounds freestyle McSteepy. Like it's kind of lo fi, you.

[B]

Know what I mean?

[A]

Like that's once I heard the father.

[B]

I got it off the bone Hole.

[A]

I was like, okay, I'm listening more than I was.

[B]

That's where it picked up.

[A]

I'm listening more than I was once in there.

[E]

By the time you got to that part, I'm just like, ah, she going to have to come harder than this.

[D]

That's what I said.

[F]

You don't know me.

[G]

Don't bring up my upbringing. Your mammy was around that still was swinging. Hold on, make me spin your block script arena so tight I can barely fit a finger.

[D]

I like that line.

[G]

You can't eat ill baby that you steal you took for granted. I get niggas pockets took hold say you stacking paper Let me see you.

[F]

Read a book ho.

[G]

Different places I forgot the way you look, ho.

[A]

Stop this now. What were your thoughts during this part?

[D]

It picked up.

[F]

It's picking up.

[A]

It picked up.

[D]

This was. Put my coffee down.

[B]

This is what happened there.

[D]

My attention.

[B]

I started to laugh. I laughed in the face.

[E]

I said, oh, okay.

[C]

Once you get plastic surgery review.

[A]

Yo, when you dissing somebody with more money than you like. Again, a lot of this comes from the 50 cent disc handbook. And you just start talking about your opponent's ability to read. Yo, I don't care if you can read or not. It's funny.

[E]

It is funny.

[A]

And the Breakfast Club getting those Floyd Drops is some of the funniest.

[D]

That shit's amazing.

[A]

Nah, that's some of the funniest in the world. All right. Ten different faces. I don't know how you look whole. Lie to me, lie to me now. Come on, come on. Hey, black podcasters, hard bars. There you go. Hard bars. Even if you team Carti to death.

[E]

Hard bars.

[A]

Hey, and let me say the line that get me in parks in trouble. Hey, who wrote that? Do we think that JT is writing this stuff? Shut the up.

[C]

The most lyrical wizard, Dre.

[F]

Exactly. It sound like she wrote this.

[D]

Not to me.

[A]

But.

[F]

If a wrote this, I would be pissed.

[D]

I don't be thinking nobody write none of this.

[B]

Wait, hold on.

[A]

What you say, Mona?

[F]

If I. If I paid somebody to write this, I would be pissed. Oh, the sounds like she wrote it to me. This sounds like her compliment. She could be popping, talking about. About selling clothes out the trunk and all that. She a booster. She a credit card girl. It sound like her to me.

[D]

She definitely told that person her story.

[F]

She was the rapper out of them too. That's how I always looked at it. Unless I was stupid.

[B]

Chad, GPT man, we ain't gotta.

[A]

If there was ever time we needed a Karisha, please, man. I've been looking for Karisha, please. For about a year. How long Puffin gone? That episode will not drop.

[E]

I knew you was.

[B]

Come on.

[F]

What did she say to ask crazy Cardi. Diaper. What?

[B]

I don't know. What did she say?

[A]

Diaper B. I don't like that.

[F]

Diaper. Oh, Diaper B. I don't like that.

[A]

Cardi has been been. She has been transparent with her how her weight is gaining during her pregnancy. No, that's. I can tell when y' all don't be watching.

[D]

I thought a joke was coming.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Have y' all seen Corey pregnant? Her. Her things are accentuated it. Yeah, more so then. And she's been on. She's been talking about her ass is fatter.

[F]

Cuz she pregnant.

[D]

That happens.

[A]

That's not really what I'm trying to say. Even if that is what's happening. That's not what I'm trying.

[C]

You can just break out into your full on plastic surgery review bag. Like I know that it's in there somewhere.

[D]

Do it.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not really that. It's how. It's how is it plastic surgery? It's how pregnant weight is. It's how you pregnant. Weight ain't hitting the same for everybody, so. Okay. That's all I'm saying.

[D]

But do you feel like that's a bridge too far? You feel like.

[A]

I think that this. That's what I'm trying to say.

[D]

I guess that's what you confuse me sometimes. Like everybody, myself included, I guess is like. I don't know what the lines are. Because that to me seems inbounds.

[C]

This is inbounds to me.

[D]

Yeah. It seems imbalance compared to some of the other they be saying.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't say it if if could get pregnant. I wouldn't say that to Dude. Yes, you would. All right, go ahead, play it.

[G]

Lame school dressing ass hoe Pick the wrong test Shout out my who never fake the phone that she brag about. I sold it out the tr.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[G]

Your mimmy ran a whorehouse. The only time I seen you with a pen was at the courthouse. That was city girls Wan up That ain't your friend Dumb a be getting yeah Got shook got the car.

[A]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Let me just let y' all know. Y' all have stopping rights. Y' all have. Y' all can stop it too. Don't just make me be the bad guy.

[D]

Yo, that only time I seen you with a pin was at the courthouse. Show that. That. That was maybe my favorite line on this joint.

[C]

That was dope.

[A]

That was hard.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't like the. All right, it say it. I don't like the. Yo, your dude is when. And your dude also looks a little. It's what we doing.

[B]

What?

[D]

I didn't know that's where you was going.

[C]

Freeze reviews the dudes.

[A]

What about Hadoop?

[B]

Hey, one turn salacious against Freeze.

[A]

No, hey, I don't like us saying that about with Uzi. Uzi's ass. I'll have y' all know he's out just as much.

[E]

Tell him Freeze.

[D]

There is a bigger point that Freeze is making though, that's interesting. Which is like when you do a dis record and you talking about people plastic surgeries and they buy. If you throwing at people that they can. They could be standing at you. Does that make the disc less credible?

[E]

Not that's credible, but less hit as hard. To me.

[A]

Not to me.

[E]

It don't hit as hard.

[D]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[A]

Yeah, it matters.

[E]

It could be a hard bar. It could apply. But then if that person could turn around and say the exact same thing.

[C]

To you if you make it funny, I don't care.

[F]

Agreed.

[A]

Yeah. You gotta say yours different. Your metaphor gotta be different than mine. We gotta not be attacking this the same way. And it's cool for me Cardi on one of them songs I love and one of them verses I love of was like yo. Oh, lame. That's why my friend on your.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

It's one of the best Cardi lines ever gonna say that when they beefing. If my friend your.

[D]

That's a solid line.

[A]

So if JT's friend her. She's supposed to say it is all I'm saying.

[B]

Even if she did, even if they didn't.

[A]

We supposed to say that.

[D]

Yeah, no, I'm with that. That works. It's the plastic surgeon. All that other shit where it's kind of like.

[A]

Like.

[D]

Like all y' all got plastic surgery, all y' all got writers, all y' all got.

[A]

But everybody don't have the same plastic surgery. Boy, they going to call me all types of after this. I'm fine. Everybody don't have the same.

[B]

Some get got in the basement in Queens and some got it.

[A]

Yeah. Some people went to. Went to the special, the specialist, the good doctors. Some people left the country. Some people went to Turkey.

[F]

And some people, some of y' all.

[B]

Direction remember the queen? They locked the person up. Remember that he was doing in the building.

[A]

What was that? Some of y' all been to the doctors that been killing. And that's a flex. Girl's gonna use whatever the flex. Yeah, that's the surgeon you went to. He done botched up you and the last nine people and killed somebody on the recovery table. You proud? You proud? Oh, we ain't the same. Like is messy.

[F]

You gotta write for somebody.

[A]

Me?

[F]

Yeah, you got it.

[B]

No, he's just in the know when it comes to that, but he.

[A]

I would kill him. I. I would. Would.

[E]

You should.

[A]

I would kill. I.

[B]

You know what's funny?

[A]

The last studio session I went to.

[C]

Pictures is messy, right?

[D]

I was.

[A]

And you.

[E]

I can hear it.

[A]

You think it's big.

[F]

You're a little messy.

[B]

Last studio session you went to.

[A]

Last studio session. Last few studio sessions I went to was writing for girls and how the verse sounds with a nigga doing it. I was in like, I'll smoke this. Hey, whoever wrote this for this girl, I'd have to write for somebody like a. Let me not make it about me. Anyway, anyway.

[G]

Insecure ass, whoopy ho dusty ass bitch don't wanna bang with me. Atlantic got you to bang. I' ma bang on E. Whole career fell small going against the queens. Who the fuck told your ugly ass has to go against me? This that penthouse flow bad for pay you pay your bills in the Texas so he can. Where y' all stay? Old bird brain, you so pitful. Open the windows in that house. Get off a live looking miserable.

[A]

Wait, stop.

[B]

She's losing.

[C]

She's losing the beat a little bit here.

[B]

A little bit.

[E]

I ain't care.

[A]

Yeah, I a give a at this point. Yeah, y' all the flow. All right, I see now she talks.

[E]

Now she was talking it. I like this.

[D]

I was with this.

[C]

I'm just saying she fell off.

[A]

I don't give a about that. Why y' all ain't stop it when she said you paying the bills over there in that house and that. Why y' all ain't stopping is what I'm asking y'. All.

[D]

I was focused on the flow.

[C]

It was both. It was a convenient time to stop both and review the bars and the flow.

[A]

No matter who sits on that couch, I hate it.

[E]

I don't give a about that. The flow.

[A]

We talking off the beat.

[E]

Whatever. Whatever she talking now.

[D]

No, she talking the right there.

[E]

I just hated that.

[A]

Back to the player parts and them.

[G]

Crackers at the fashion houses. I'm in the club in a with my ass my ig A fashion show okay. They believe I'm arguing with the face of fashion.

[D]

That's fire.

[C]

That was funny.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

It's fire and roll.

[D]

Wrong again.

[A]

Don't matter some. You can't be too wrong. Now you, you should. You can't be too wrong.

[C]

Nah, you could.

[B]

Yes you can.

[F]

You can.

[D]

Really, that's the whole point of this.

[B]

You can make it, make it hit.

[E]

Make it funny, make it whatever. Yes, you can be wrong. As we ain't fact checking at this record now.

[B]

This crazy.

[D]

That's make the funny about that.

[A]

I don't think the JT should be talking fashion with Cardi B. Cuz Cardi.

[F]

B really like she's sitting here saying.

[A]

I don't give Cardi really like that.

[D]

It's a dangerous game.

[A]

I don't give a about that. You do.

[E]

That's what she's saying.

[A]

You do though. But she or not she do.

[E]

I don't give a fuck about that.

[A]

I don't think.

[F]

But then you just say if somebody could say it back to you, it like invalidates it because the Cardi can't dress, bitch.

[E]

So if I say it first, if I'm sitting there saying, yo, I don't care about that fashion. Because Cardi mentioned fashion first. I don't care about that fashion.

[A]

That's not true. She care about this.

[F]

She definitely cares about.

[D]

But this record's always filled with lies and exaggeration.

[A]

All I'm saying is be careful entering your opponent. Opponent's strong.

[D]

Yes. You set yourself up for a vicious comeback if.

[A]

If your opponent is cutting clubs. I wouldn't be the first to put a club on the board is all I'm saying.

[D]

I feel you.

[E]

Yeah, well, she wasn't.

[A]

And Cardi. Cardi.

[E]

Cardi brought the fashion up first. She's responding to that. Yeah, but Cardi, I take you to fashion houses and all that. They'll that fashion. Let's talk this. That's what she said.

[F]

I still like it.

[E]

I don't give a about kid dress. I'm gonna talk about that.

[F]

I still like it because it's like.

[E]

I'm not trying to out fashion you.

[F]

I still like it because it's like them crackers at the Fashion household, they're not inviting me them anyway, y'.

[A]

All right. But they still pulled up a picture in JT dressed in like a lunchbox or something. They gonna pull up your old fits. Why you think when I. When I bet I don't talk about outfits. Go ahead.

[G]

Like a terracotta. You can never be cunt. You a lame hoe pregnant by who? Suck dick out the game toe. Let it go. You been mad for years.

[A]

Yo, stop this. I'm getting mad at yalls non stopping abilities.

[B]

We don't want to stop. We don't want to stop at that. We don't want to stop at that.

[D]

I wanted to stop at that.

[F]

Stop.

[D]

That's a body shot. That's pretty.

[B]

Come on. Come on.

[D]

She hit her with that. You got. She hit her with that.

[E]

She hit her.

[D]

Yeah, that's solid.

[C]

I didn't know that that was happening at the football games.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know anything about that.

[C]

Gonna make those Patriots go. Game's a little bit different.

[D]

Might just be the Packers.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Come on. It was just.

[A]

That was good. That was good. No, that was a good one. That was a good one.

[B]

You prepared.

[D]

Yes, I prepared for this show. He marvels that every week.

[B]

You can help yourself right there. You wanted to stop at the dick conversation. Now you want to violate me?

[A]

No, but let's get back to. Wait, stop. Enough of that. You saying you don't care about that?

[B]

No, I don't care about that.

[A]

No, you say it's a body blow moment.

[F]

I mean, it goes with the text. Is text going, what's the guy's name? I don't even know his name, but he has text where he's saying that he fucked him. And that goes with the text. Jay Z post the text and she put it in her dish.

[D]

Allegedly.

[A]

Yeah, well, let's not repeat stuff from the people that get sued.

[D]

Every month someone says they have texts just so we don't get sued. I'm just saying.

[F]

I saw the boy. I don't even know the blogger, but the guy. I don't want to say his name. He's a athlete himself and he alleges that he was trying to fuck him. He got a whole story about it, and the story don't even sound like bullshit. I'm not saying I believe it or anything, but you.

[A]

Well, can you say alleged? Allegedly. Say it again for me.

[F]

Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. So when the guy's telling the story about the other, the athlete, JT shares that post. So she put in a disc to go together like she was, you know, getting them ready for it.

[A]

This is another one of those Spider man memes.

[E]

It is, but it ain't, though.

[D]

Yeah, that's my.

[A]

Go ahead, Freeze.

[E]

Ain't no a Nobody make no accusation on dude. Who did they? I'm just saying.

[F]

Who? Who, who, dude? Her dude. Yeah, I mean, what's it called saying.

[E]

Oh, okay, never mind then.

[F]

Yeah, she did say something about him. She said, you gotta borrow your purse and all.

[E]

No, I'm talking about. To the level of the accusation is made about him.

[F]

Why are we talking?

[B]

Why are we doing.

[A]

Cause that's what happens up here.

[F]

Oh.

[A]

Cause that's what happens up here.

[D]

The talk that is.

[E]

I'm talking about there is a person that has a story that said this man did X Y. And I don't know if there is a person that has a story that said her dude did xyz if it exists. I didn't know. I'm just saying. So, yeah, she could say that. Are you saying. Yeah, it does exist?

[D]

No, no, no, I'm. No, I'm not saying anything. I don't know anything about that.

[E]

That's all. Like, yeah, one is just, yo, look, a little. Might be a little. And then one. We got a person coming out saying, hey, he did that.

[A]

Are we done with our first diss track?

[C]

Is there more?

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

We going.

[A]

There's nothing more that I need to do.

[C]

I didn't hear the other one. I can't find it. Oh, I got it.

[A]

Well, before you get to the new one. So you're in your final thoughts on JT's disc. Number one.

[C]

Not bad.

[D]

It's not bad. It's better.

[E]

One out of ten.

[A]

Give me one out of ten. Six.

[D]

I even say seven.

[F]

I say seven when you first hear it. It was a three. So seven.

[D]

I had it at a five.

[E]

The first time she worked her way.

[D]

Up, she worked up.

[A]

Sorry, I'm giving. I'm giving us 6.9.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Close to that. 7. That was a nice. That was a nice diss track. Especially because of my expectations of a JT diss track.

[C]

That's fair.

[A]

You was direct without a few hard lines. I thought that your flow, your cadence and all that was fly. Maybe up till the very, very, very, very end where like freeze or somebody's. I feel like using your talking to him bag at that point. Let's hear this up the. I love a royal rumble with the.

[C]

Ladies when raps coming up here for it.

[A]

I mean the rap ro.

[G]

Yeah, yeah Money coming in let it keep coming band out ho, you ain't nothing 650 co but I spent 600 out of my watch I spent 200 hoes talking ain't stopping no money.

[D]

That.

[A]

Noise in the background is really winning right now.

[G]

Her face looks scary but she don't scare me Put me on repeat Put J on repeat Turn me out Meta frame drop mix weak yeah bad crap Better listen when I shut up I want to one can't clone me Stop.

[A]

This money I like this better.

[B]

I like the start of this better. Yeah, me too, Pete Cadence. I like, I like like this better.

[E]

I do like this beat better the punches ain't these. These feel more jabby than.

[A]

But I like it better.

[D]

And start with. To me. To your point about the fashion flow. Talking money talk with Cardi to me ain't the right move. That's the one to leave because she got a lot more money.

[E]

Don't tell me you spent 200 on the watch.

[D]

Cuz it even the brags, don't they?

[E]

Cardi gonna say my daughter got a $300,000 watch your first birthday.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Until I learn how much money Uzi has, I gotta. I gotta know how much money Uzi makes.

[C]

Uzi got a lot of money.

[A]

Uzi has a lot of money.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If Uzi has a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot of money, then his lady could talk like that.

[F]

Agree.

[A]

If not, then I agree with y' all and I won't know that. I didn't go audit on Uzi, buddy.

[E]

I'm not gonna do it. I haven't done an audit on Uzi. I do remember after that Exo Tour Life record, which was a smash. Smash. Smash.

[A]

You talking about 2015. Well.

[E]

Well, that was arguably his biggest record. I just want to rock his past.

[A]

That's his biggest record by far.

[E]

Correct.

[C]

Two big records though. And he sells a lot of records.

[E]

But I was. My point was I remember after the.

[A]

Deal, he wouldn't got even did something.

[E]

That's what I was gonna say after. After that. He got out of that. After that record because he didn't make no money from that. It was saying. He was saying how much the record itself made and what he made the check he got from it. So the money talk might come down a little different. Okay, that's. That's was my point.

[C]

Fair enough.

[A]

Want to keep going here?

[E]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead.

[F]

Ho.

[G]

You ain't nothing. 650. But I spent 600. Watch, I spent 200.

[A]

This is the chorus. That little noise is the winner. That little three six mafia noise.

[G]

Jt.

[D]

This ain't it.

[E]

And don't put in there when a book. JT sent me three something. If you talking to Cardi again.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't know what three something can mean.

[D]

We know what it don't mean.

[E]

We know what it don't mean.

[A]

Did the beat James send me threesome.

[C]

The drums changes.

[A]

The drums change. Changed in the second verse.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

All right. So y' all hate it.

[E]

I don't hate it.

[D]

I don't hate it.

[A]

It's just.

[E]

I would have been cool with just letting that first one rock and see what happens after that. I didn't need this record here or.

[D]

I would have liked if this one came out first.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And yeah, this would have been a good.

[F]

I wonder why they did that at the end. That was.

[A]

I absolutely love the first record as a diss. The first disc record. I love the second record has disses in it. I don't think it's a diss record. Exactly. So that's how I'm gauging this. I'm gauging this like a MC who's against somebody that's bigger than me. I'm gonna diss you because that'll get that rolling. But I'm putting the record out. I'm putting the record out. This sound like I'm putting a record out. Cool. My first two bars was hard. I'm back to you ain't looking like yourself. Oh, you look scary, but I ain't scared.

[B]

Ho.

[A]

I like that.

[E]

This one got a hook on it. So it is sound like a song.

[A]

Yeah, this is a song to me. And I like the plan. Whatever you think of the music, I love the Plan from jt, who also just moved to New York. I heard her say, okay, welcome.

[B]

And. And Atlanta.

[A]

Don't hate me. I think New York. I like New York, jt. I mean, Atlanta. Atlanta, Miami. I like New York, jt Better than Miami, jt. I'm biased.

[E]

Yeah, but that's cause you're not from them.

[A]

I'm biased.

[E]

That's different culture down there. But my only. My only problem with that is if this is me putting a single out, then this should be it should have been so hard to find this. Drop this.

[A]

You said single. I said a record.

[E]

Even if it being a record, if I'm putting a record out, it's a street record.

[A]

It's a street record.

[E]

Yeah, but this ain't make it where niggas could get the record then.

[A]

Nah, it's a street record.

[F]

Record.

[A]

It's a street record. If it happened to pick up steam and pick up steam and then we'll get to some other parties involved. But for now, I'm putting a Hard street record out with my hard diss record. You. I'm in New York. I'm waiting to see one of y'. All. I like the plan. Do I think it'll work or how effective I think it'll be? That's where I think that Cardi is. Carte blanche.

[D]

Would it have been more effective with some more space and, like, if you wait. Wait like a week or two to put the second record out?

[A]

No, no, no. Hell no. I ain't giving them.

[E]

Hell no, you can't wait a week or two.

[A]

I ain't giving them no more space.

[E]

Week or two, this might be. Well, J.T. who not no disrespect, but you got to strike while the iron is hot. You don't forgot about this. And Cardi go and do something else and don't and ignore you. Now, what got you?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know if Cardi has the ability to ignore anybody.

[E]

I'm talking about musically. I'm just saying, if she.

[A]

If she.

[E]

Again, Cardi just dropped the album. You know how people play the deluxe game. Cardi could go drop another version with two more songs on it.

[A]

Again, let me ask y', all, is it a diss for people to keep talking about how much Cardi's album cost?

[F]

No.

[A]

Like the 4.99 thing.

[B]

No, no.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

I mean, only when Nikki said it. I mean, I could see her.

[E]

I could see it being a diss. Because if you hanging everything on your.

[A]

Numbers, Your single was 99 cents. Mine is four bucks. I mean, yes, it is a dis.

[E]

Because you. You, You. You're talking. Yeah, we. We sold 200,000 first week. 199, whatever you want to call it. We did these numbers. But then when you go look and say it's like an asterisk, maybe not a dis, but it does put an asterisk up there.

[D]

It's a Disney album.

[E]

Costs 9.99 to 12.99 to even higher.

[A]

JT gotta sell more. It is a diss.

[D]

It's a diss.

[A]

It is a diss.

[E]

That's all I'm saying.

[A]

You gotta sell a little more.

[D]

I think that's what I meant. It's a diss. It's not a good one.

[B]

Better be sure than sorry, though. That's how I feel. I mean, with Cardi, I think it's.

[A]

A great move that she did. Bitches is playing with Cardi the hiatus.

[B]

That she's been on for so long.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You don't know.

[A]

That's why they playing with her. That's why they playing with her right there. If it took you seven years to do this that you did.

[B]

But why would. But why would I come out and put my album at 9.99 if it did take me seven years? And if people were criticizing me every time I was. I was teasing a roller I didn't drop. I would come just to. I would put it at a price where I can be sure that it.

[E]

It, it shows the show. Scary.

[A]

That's the only part.

[B]

I think it's a business move.

[A]

That part of what Cardi. That's the only part that don't match Carti's aesthetic. I, I thought about it long and hard too. Cardi, when you hear a rap is Big boss numero uno number one. You see the fashion I made the money I saw sold the record. You can't with me. That's the aesthetic all across the board. Huh. From the looks to everything. You can't have that aesthetic and talk to the. The way you're talking to them. And then your album come out and be 4.99 and be clear.

[E]

And one other thing because I saw people saying.

[A]

Well, without. They're gonna attack you over it.

[B]

But what do you feel about that?

[A]

Like I think if you took a seven year hiatus and you a label with all new people that didn't sign you. Yes, I'm making that album 4.99. It's car. That's not a carded decision.

[B]

No. Yes, but.

[E]

And they don't care how it looks.

[A]

They don't care. They going to shoot at that. But I don't, I, I don't think it's so valid. You can make your album 4.99 and y' all not going to do what Cardi did. Except for one of y'.

[F]

All.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'll tell y' all while we in all this messy, Meg the Stallion did preview a record and I like it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. I like it. Really. It's a flip of total kissing you. Total kissing you. I love flip now it's still. She found a way to make it be twerk music. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is. I think that's. By now we can say that's her. But not a bad record anyway. Okay. Any. I'm going try to find that record while y' all talk.

[F]

Tired of shaking my head.

[E]

No, I was just saying I saw.

[A]

A lot of people hold up a bit.

[F]

Tired of that twerking, man.

[A]

Why?

[F]

Tired of shaking my ass, man.

[A]

You been shaking that?

[F]

Yeah. What you do with twerk music. Come on, just go tap your foot. You don't shake your asses.

[B]

No.

[F]

You don't dance.

[B]

No.

[F]

That's what's wrong with I have a good time at the party, baby.

[E]

With some cut that moving, too.

[C]

Oh, she love, love.

[A]

Oh, they gonna love this. Wait a minute. Hey, with that little New Orleans bop bouncing there, that doesn't sound bad. And I do. Not with that lady at all. But music is music. Goddamn, that sound good. Good. Anyway, all right, we done with JT and Cardi, or do we have more to say?

[B]

No, we're done with that jt.

[A]

They will do a drill.

[B]

Jt. Yes. And you in New York.

[A]

You fresh in New York. I ain't going to lie to you, girl. I like you.

[B]

They set traps.

[A]

Yeah, I. I like JT a lot.

[B]

They b3 of the blocks, JT.

[A]

You fresh in New York. The city is big and it's not at all. The city is big and it is not. Don't go to Pergola and just be thinking that you having the sliders and.

[C]

Like, it would be sliders, right?

[E]

Get slid.

[A]

Yeah, don't get slid having the sliders at Pergola. Cause Uzi ain't but so damn big. Taller like that's.

[B]

Nobody plays with Uzi, though. No, they don't play with him. I'm not even going to put that. They don't play with him.

[F]

They don't.

[A]

That's true. The Internet was off. The Internet was trying to say that Offset was supposed to jump in. What do you. What. What do y' all think about that?

[F]

I seen a clip of Offset shaking his ass on stage, having a great.

[A]

That was not Offset. That was not Offset.

[F]

Who was it? That wasn't him.

[A]

No.

[F]

Who was it?

[B]

Sick.

[A]

You talk about that clip where the put his leg in the air and.

[F]

Was like a real clip of Offset performing. He had a performance, and when they were going crazy on Twitter, he was performing.

[A]

Ass.

[B]

We thinking something else.

[A]

My fault. No. There's a clip going around saying, offset shaking his ass. He don't even care. And I clicked on that. It was some. That wasn't Offset with his leg in the head.

[C]

Your algorithm is crazy.

[E]

I saw a real offset that you be seeing.

[B]

Yo, you got a freaky algorithm, boy.

[F]

The one I had.

[B]

This is bilingual.

[F]

He had shades on. He was on stage. I really saw him performing. He had shade when he was on stage. He was smiling. You could see all his teeth. He was happy.

[E]

As Offset is currently on tour. He's opening on the.

[F]

For NBA young boy. Exactly. They post Philly tonight.

[A]

All right. If somebody start dissing. And this is a quick. We don't need to spend a lot of time here, but if somebody start dissing your BM that you don't speak to every day, your first bm.

[B]

Sink or swim.

[A]

How do y' all feel?

[B]

I'm not getting involved.

[C]

It gets weird when they bring the kids in.

[B]

Yes, that's what I'm getting.

[A]

And they bring the kids.

[D]

You bring the kids in.

[B]

You don't get involved.

[F]

Cool. But secret swim is like her. That's crazy.

[B]

Yo, be break. Hey, yo, listen. And that's my. She going to DM me your baby hom. Why she want sex. I'm talking about Cardi. I'm talking about. I can't listen, man. The shit that niggas got away. Damn, man.

[A]

I wish. Akbar, get the fuck out of this.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Akbar.

[A]

Mar. Get your Hawkbar. Text me, too. Haar. Text me. Talking about Joe. Cardi wasn't talking about me. I said I know. Please tell me you said I know. Please. Yo, Akbar, with. With all due respect, nobody ever thought.

[D]

You ain't text that.

[A]

Do you get jumped? Stop doing a been up here. I. We knew. We know. I told. I was telling the room that. Hey, that's exact. She probably don't watch. That's exactly what I was telling the room. Nobody was talking about you, baby. It's okay.

[C]

Anyway, anyways.

[A]

I love the girl action even more than the action I ain't got. I'm such a messy motherfucker.

[B]

You a algorithm now? You figured out how to get to it. I'm watching you, son.

[A]

I'm an algorithm, nigga. My Instagram followers have been stuck at 1.7 for the last seven years. Years.

[B]

N. Yes, Joe, that's true, cuz.

[A]

Shadow Band.

[F]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

No, you have to be on there talking all this independent.

[F]

Oh, right. They don't like that. Making money. That's number one, T. They don't like.

[A]

Making you making money without us. Oh, you ain't pressing the boost.

[C]

Yeah, that's what it is. That's really what it is.

[B]

Just because you're being suppressed, you're still the algorithm, cuz you know how to. You know how to play that about. Cuz you know, when you this messy. Like, I learn. I watch. Cause that's. Sometimes I'm like, yo, Cardi said this about Joe, man. Why he keep doing it?

[A]

I love Cardi.

[B]

Yeah, he do that.

[A]

I don't give a fuck that Cardi think I Don't love her.

[B]

I know you love her.

[A]

I don't care that the music fans think I don't love Cardi. Fuck y'. All.

[E]

I don't fuck with y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

Like, I'm not convincing nobody of who I love. I love Cardi.

[B]

Just your name.

[A]

I do. I can't.

[F]

How can you not love Cardi, though? Like, watching her whole come up, bro, the only thing that ever threw me off was that she went music. I always thought she would go comedy because she was real funny. So I thought she was gonna be, like, an actress or comedic actress. So I was so surprised when she. Her music. And I'm not the biggest fan of her music, but I'm still just. It's nice watching her win.

[A]

But that's why. That's why you got to be a fan of her. She thinks bigger than people.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

She thinks way bigger. And like you said, I've seen the story. I've said this up here a million times. Yeah. And I really should change my lifestyle. But the strip clubs are there, man. I know who was lit, who was not. I seen y'. All when you left, retired, came back. Anything in New York, in New Jersey, strip club history. All three retirements in the last 30 something years. I know it. Cardi was in there working. She was working, like, for real. Not sitting down, trying to be cute. She wasn't the cutest. She was working, getting money into it. So to leave there and.

[E]

And start putting mixtapes out with everybody.

[B]

Like, why start online?

[A]

It went from online to loving hip hop. And I say this too. She told love and hip hop. Nah, I'm cool now. Thank you. Thank you. I did my time here.

[F]

That's a great move.

[D]

That was the greatest move.

[A]

I appreciate you, but I have something bigger for me and everybody loving hip hop. This the classic DJ self interview. Yeah. That's like, what are you doing, boy? Egg on your face. Talk about egg on your face. So to see her rise. That's why I even like that. That she said to like, yo, dog, I listened to you in high school. She did. We all looked up to you. You hated all of us. Oh, you hated all of us. But. But I'm not your. Like, would you ever. Whatever you're doing to me, I'm. That's not for me.

[D]

Right?

[A]

It's not for me.

[B]

When they gonna break the cycle?

[E]

I still don't roll with that.

[B]

When they gonna break the cycle of that? Did Kim do that to.

[D]

To Nikki?

[E]

Cardi broke a cycle of that or was Nikki?

[F]

Honestly?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

You wanna tell the truth?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Cardi broke a cycle. I used to say that when she where I always said this phone.

[B]

She just said she gonna beat people up.

[E]

No, no, but I'm talking about Cardi embraced the other girls.

[D]

Fact ex and younger girl, she did.

[E]

Kim didn't do it when Cardi was with like hip hop, put them against each other. They bought into it.

[A]

Don't say Kim didn't do it.

[B]

It wasn't no girl how much that took.

[E]

I'm talking about when Cardi, I mean.

[A]

Oh, they say Nikki.

[E]

I'm speaking Kim.

[F]

Oh, that was Remy.

[B]

But did Nikki try to embrace by Kim knew it.

[A]

There was no girls when Kim came. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to speak ill on Kim.

[F]

Remy let Cardi get on Summer Jam stage though, with her. That was a big deal. What niggas like? Yeah, she. I mean that. It wasn't no girls, but Remy did do that for Cardi and it was a big deal. I don't know, was that some Brock shit or what?

[B]

You're right. What I'm trying to find out from Joe was that being around that time, was Nikki trying to be embraced by Kim? Cause Nicki has always had that bravado about her, right? That Queen. I'm this, I'm that. She's always had that. If you've been around her. She's always, always believed in that since back in the days. But I don't remember if she tried to be embraced by Kim. I know that she did the photo shoot over and all that shit and.

[A]

People were comparing, emulating her a little bit.

[B]

But I don't know if I thought.

[F]

The story was that Kim always said that she tried to, but Nikki wanted to be the only bitch. So her whole thing was, regardless, I don't want nothing to do with you on a rap tip. And Kim was still trying to push it out. That's what Kim always said. Who knows if what's the truth? But that's what Kim always said. It's just now after you writing a list and it's 50 rap on the list, it just make it like, well then was Kim lying? Cause she was the first one. It's 50 bitches on the list now. Like, literally it's this, who, who, who hasn't. If you haven't had a running you, you not popping your shit ain't doing well. That's almost a way to know you're doing well. If you run into it with the Queen. That don't even make no sense because she's the queen.

[A]

I love all the girls except for a few of you on. But for the most part, we love Foxy too. I love him. Come on. Love Foxy.

[B]

Love Foxy.

[E]

Of course.

[B]

Of course I love Foxy.

[A]

I figured out why I. Why I connect to Foxy more than Kim.

[B]

Please explain.

[A]

I figured it out. I want to hear it, cuz the Gav. Well, shout out to Gav, too. But no Fox. When Kim came out, it was the picture, the album cover, right? And I was a teenager or I was young, so I could talk about was the album cover. She had so many verses that as a guy, you couldn't rap. Yeah, sure, she had so many verses, but not Esme.

[D]

Not as many.

[A]

Not as many as Ken.

[E]

First lines on Kim album Fox.

[A]

Fox was the first one that I heard rapping outside of the Bratton on it. But these is drug dealer nigga bars. Yeah, dope house. Get you set up. This was. This was those bars. As a dude, I related to that. So when she left that and do a styling or one of the club records for the girls, I don't care. She ain't on there talking like Kim. Kim is like, you gonna eat my pussy. Yeah, you go, motherfucker.

[E]

See, that's how I felt. I mean, you know, I always say west coast music. That's how I felt about Rage was the. That she rapped like a. With.

[F]

Yeah, Puff Rage.

[D]

He feeling away.

[E]

That's right. That's how. And that was 1992.

[B]

93 earlier.

[E]

No, you not. You be New York biased.

[D]

And I'm gonna be. Yo, he gonna squeeze the west coast. Yo, J.J. fad.

[B]

That's how I felt about Stetson Sonic Oak Town 357. Watch him out.

[A]

This guy worry about. Yo, yo, when she was. She had bars that I really with.

[B]

Yo, Free Rage me up.

[F]

Rage up.

[A]

That's my bad. Yo.

[B]

Did she put an album out though?

[F]

Ice, she had an album.

[E]

Necessary Roughness.

[A]

Hold on. I'm a Rage fan too, but.

[E]

Me too.

[A]

But Freeze is funny still. Oh, my God.

[E]

Yo, you'll learn I listen to music outside of New York, right?

[A]

No, you'll learn that he makes it his business to let you know it. That's the bar you're learning. His music taste is amazing. What do you go out his way to let you know he listening to is a different talk. Who else reads?

[E]

Nobody.

[D]

Said. I'm not playing these games with you at all.

[A]

How do y' all feel about music? Bullying. Like bullying People based on what they listen to.

[C]

It's funny, but it's wrong.

[E]

No, it's not wrong.

[F]

No, it's not.

[D]

Depends on what they listening to.

[E]

It depends on the person.

[C]

No, but, like, I'm too cool. Because you don't listen to the cool enough shit.

[A]

It's wrong.

[C]

It's wrong, however.

[A]

But we do it.

[C]

Some people be wrong in what they listen to.

[D]

Yes. Some. Is this bad?

[A]

Yeah. No. Y' all are wrong for saying that. Nobody is wrong for what they're listening to.

[E]

That's how I feel. Ain't nobody wrong for what they listen.

[D]

You can like what you like, but you can't like what you like. And act like it's special or good.

[E]

But it can be. But no. Yes, you can. Absolutely.

[A]

Album of the year. That J elect.

[F]

Mr. J elect.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm a snob, though. Like, I love J Elect. Right? So I'm gonna say, like, if I'm not. Like, if you don't like Jayle, like, you don't know hip hop. But if you listening to, like, I want this. No. Anybody say it's gonna sound like a dis.

[A]

But dis somebody.

[D]

No, but I'm just saying there's somebody y' all think is whack. We could. There's probably somebody here we all agree is whack. And if somebody listening to that like, it's hot. I judge you.

[A]

Nobody fits me. Talking about how much I love the Big Bugs music. Nobody in. In New York Northeast knows what I'm talking about. Big bulls come on in the club. Let's. Let's go like. And I understand that. Cause that ain't really what's going on now. I don't know. They be street in the club. Y' all know Big Boogie from Brooklyn?

[E]

No.

[A]

Big Boogie? No. Big Boogs is from Memphis.

[E]

Why you keep saying Bugs?

[A]

Well, I keep saying books.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Big Boogie.

[B]

Oh, Big.

[A]

Big Boogie.

[B]

I think somebody is a blood name.

[A]

No. Huh? All right, whatever.

[B]

You know.

[E]

You know.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Anyway, but now to your point, what if they are good to that person or what if they are.

[D]

Everybody's entitled to their opinion.

[E]

Yeah, that's. I just think music is.

[D]

You know what? They don't matter. You don't want to consider that. No. But it's harder when somebody likes something we don't like. But I'll tell you this. There are people who don't like some shit we like. And you definitely judge them for that. If somebody said, yeah, I just don't. I went on a date with a girl one Time, million years ago. I never forget. And she said. And she said. She said, I'm just not into Stevie Wonder. How can I fucking not judge that? Yeah, how can I not judge that? For, like, the first 15, I just kept going, stevie Wonder, she a serial killer, something. And actually, she ended up moving to Alaska. And Hennessy.

[A]

Why would she say that?

[C]

That's a good place to not like Stevie Wonder.

[F]

How about the Eskimo?

[D]

We were talking music, and I was like, what kind of music you into? Blah, blah, blah. We were in our 20s, you know what I mean? It was just regular. And she said, stevie fucking Wonder.

[C]

You said, go to Alaska.

[B]

Exactly.

[F]

Right.

[D]

It blew my mind. I just never met.

[B]

How can I not?

[E]

She's saying why.

[D]

She said, it just doesn't do anything for me.

[E]

And see, I understand that. Not saying Stevie Wonder.

[A]

I'm just saying with certain music, they'd.

[E]

Be like, yo, how do you feel about this artist? We all love them. I'm like, okay, that's cool. Like, I can respect that you love something if music. It gotta make you feel something.

[D]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, if you.

[E]

Get that, then it's like, all right. It just ain't for me. I'm not saying it's actually ass, but they kill me because how I am.

[D]

About Mob D. Yeah, but Ice. Yeah. What?

[C]

That's bad.

[A]

How are you about m. I just done. They didn't do it.

[B]

You didn't even listen.

[F]

Freeze.

[A]

You still do it. You don't like them at all.

[E]

See, and that. I never said that.

[F]

I'm asking.

[E]

And that's what I'm talking about. He said, I don't like.

[C]

You just don't.

[F]

With them like that. Like, you don't feel nothing when you.

[D]

How can I not judge that?

[E]

You can. I just don't give a.

[D]

Just like you judge the man. They said that about Hov, right? They said, yeah, Hov just don't do it for me. You'd be like, what the. Is wrong.

[E]

No, I wouldn't.

[D]

Not even a small party.

[E]

You would be like, no, I wouldn't.

[A]

You better.

[D]

You better.

[E]

I don't judge because I don't give a What you think. Say I don't with Hov. And I'm like, all right, cool.

[A]

I do. All right. We.

[D]

We got it.

[A]

We got it.

[B]

I'm just thinking, that's my man.

[D]

I'm.

[E]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Dropping in a couple of days.

[A]

He's telling you with his hands in his pocket, like, the blicky.

[D]

Say something else to my lady Rose.

[A]

Cool. I'm cool.

[E]

I'm cool.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

I just think we get too hungry.

[A]

But the Mob Deep opinion is.

[E]

It's wrong.

[A]

You gotta know. See, that's the thing. I'm not mad at nothing Icy saying music is subjective. I'm not like, what you like, do what you like. Like digit on the ground.

[D]

But you're a snob, too.

[A]

I'm a music snob.

[D]

That's all I'm saying.

[A]

I'm a musicalitist too, though. And I'm a musician and I come from.

[F]

Like I was gonna say.

[A]

You're a musician. Yeah, I'm a musician. Right. My dad is a musician. Right.

[D]

So you.

[A]

I'm not really here to talk with fan opinions. Perfect. But I'm also a fan, so I could do this with the fans. But.

[D]

But deep down the party, he's like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're not entitled to your.

[A]

I know that. Most of them don't know what they're talking about. It's like Kevin Durant talking basketball on Twitter. Yeah, right. It's Kevin Durant. He's doing it. Cause why not? I'm on Vogue. You niggas sound stupid, and I'm doing it. But he ain't looking at you niggas like basketball survival vaux. Right? Right.

[D]

He's not talking to a peer.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. You got that part. I love us big enough rage and saying that about. I love that you think it's that.

[F]

Important to me that if I. If I was dating a guy or if I met a guy and he didn't listen to certain. Or did listen to certain, I would absolutely not with him because of that or like being around people that, you know, you. You hate their playlist, so you don't want them to have the old score. Because some people just nice with the play with. With the August four. You feel me?

[D]

Yeah. I could live with somebody who listens to some shit I don't like. It's harder for me to deal with somebody who doesn't listen to some shit that I think is essential.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Like, me and my wife had a conversation last night about Josh Stone.

[F]

I don't think I want to.

[D]

And I have a secret. I'm one of the few people in the world.

[F]

I don't think it's a big deal. He don't like Mobb Deep, but.

[A]

Yeah, no, no.

[E]

My question to you is, who are you to determine what's essential? Oh, no. But he said he would have a hard time being with someone who doesn't. Doesn't listen to what he thinks is essential.

[F]

Right.

[E]

Who made you the end all.

[D]

Be all of the person I think is essential.

[A]

That's what I'm saying is Josh Stone.

[D]

I gave up on it, you know, it's not that deep. I happen to like Josh Stone.

[A]

Right.

[E]

We.

[D]

Oh, all right. We went to Raphael Sadiq's show last night.

[A]

Who the is Josh?

[D]

Njpac, by the way, which is one of the best shows I've seen in a while. It's a super good show. If anybody loves Rafael Sadiq, go check him out. It's kind of like a one man show.

[A]

Was free. Wow. Damn.

[D]

I took my wife instead, but how dare you?

[A]

I met her.

[D]

I'm a better time crazy. He didn't have a band or anything. It was just him about four guitars. He had acoustic guitar, a bass. He had a bunch of shit and a piano. He just went through his whole life telling stories, playing music, playing other people's music, playing shit he wrote, telling.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

We had to put our phones up. He wouldn't even let he. He secured the phone so you couldn't even record it. Which was great for the experience. He also told some. Some Dawn Robinson stories. Some he said he didn't want on YouTube. So.

[A]

So he told the truth finally, about Robinson.

[D]

That's exactly what he did. That's exactly what he did.

[A]

And hey, Raphael, we. Yo. Even if you never did that, like, just like, just if you been listening.

[F]

Tell us what he said about doing.

[A]

No, you can't do that.

[D]

I'm not going to be a rat. Yeah. Especially on the biggest podcast in the world.

[A]

You know, he went and shook Raphael's hand too.

[F]

Do you want the tea or not? You messy or what?

[A]

I am.

[D]

But he respects the boundaries of the mess.

[A]

Once these cameras also know, like, I don't need nobody to tell me, oh, you know already.

[D]

It was, it was, it was.

[C]

It sounds like a great show.

[D]

It was. One of. It was. It was amazing. Anybody who gets a chance to see it, see it. And afterward my wife's like, I love him. It was great show. I just cannot. The one thing I. The one thing in his armor, one dent in his armor for her is the Josh Stone thing. And I was just like, Josh Stone's amazing. Me and my wife have very similar music tastes, but she clowns me for not liking Josh Stone. She probably secretly judges me for that. I could live with that.

[A]

Right? Yeah. I think you said you did like him. Her.

[D]

Her Her I do like Josh Stone. I'm saying she can't. Yeah. What I'm saying is the flip is, though, our relationship can function with me liking Jon Stone and her not. It could not function if one of us didn't like Raphael.

[A]

That was my next question to y'. All. Does Mute. Does music have to be a love language? Like, for you and your partner a little bit or similar?

[E]

We have to have.

[A]

No.

[C]

There's some common ground.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Common ground.

[D]

They can like some I don't like, I. E. John Stone. They can't dislike or not. With some that I think is essential, like Rafael Sadiq.

[F]

I've had both ends of the spectrum, and I hated it. Like, guys that just don't know what to listen to or what you supposed. I just. I am the one of people think you're not supposed to. I mean, certain is like. It's corny. It sucks. You should know that. But, like.

[A]

And I think that's sweet that, like, on the date is trying to woo you with, like, the music.

[F]

Me and my ex would be not speaking and we would play certain music and that we would talk again from listening.

[D]

This like the Beanie Seagull or something?

[F]

No, mostly it'll be thug you funny as nothing romantic.

[B]

Seal was the name that they gave.

[D]

Right. That's a love language.

[A]

Warriors, movie music.

[C]

I like having a partner. That puts you on shit too, though.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

Like, finding a common ground together is inspired to me too.

[F]

It is. It is Parks.

[A]

I'm defying the new music guy in the relationship. She's the player. Old slap that I forgot about.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Rem's like that for the most part. But she finds new slaps too. Like, she took me to a concert the other night that I really didn't want to go to, but she guilted me into it.

[A]

And it was.

[C]

It was actually pretty good. It's a girl named Janine. She's like a R and B Popish, kind of. She's from England or something like that. Ended up being a good show, but I didn't want to go. I was like, vehemently like, no, I'm not going.

[F]

She guilted you into it.

[C]

She guilted me into it.

[F]

Why did she have to do that part?

[C]

She couldn't find anybody else that wanted to go.

[E]

She going to make me go by myself, that part. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

She got me. But then it ended up being a good time. So I was like, hey, man.

[A]

Won them. London, England, taking over R B. Yeah. Yeah, they doing good. Listen, a lot of you out there. I know. I know what you're thinking. What is Prize picks? Well, I'm here to let you know.

[B]

What you just thought about it. I just thought you good.

[F]

My bad, bro. I just. Wig, Wig.

[D]

You about to pop that in your mouth. What you.

[F]

It's a lollipop. I can't put it in my ass.

[E]

Oh, I know. A stripper. Never mind.

[A]

I know. Then you brought it.

[E]

I knew you was gonna say something.

[A]

Then you brought it to the crib with her twin sister. Look what she can do with a Hennessy bottle. It's like. That doesn't turn me on, yo. You ever have to talk to your about what turned you on and what.

[B]

No, actually, you don't.

[A]

Until they bring the twins to your house. That's putting the empty bottle. Forget it. They was cool girls. Sweethearts.

[C]

But intelligent.

[E]

So go ahead, yo.

[A]

They would like to know.

[F]

I would appreciate.

[A]

They could have took that act. 42nd Street. I appreciate it.

[F]

I would appreciate it.

[E]

I appreciate it.

[F]

Yeah. Send me.

[C]

You think you know, Tell us more about.

[A]

I saw your interview.

[F]

Like, I seen the two girls. Tink, Tink, Tink. Put the bottles in the coochie and the black. Clap them.

[C]

That's dangerous.

[A]

Oh, you got Zeus. Plus.

[F]

I do not watch Juice. I used to be in a trip club, though. I was always in the troop.

[A]

For real.

[F]

Yeah. I like the troupe. That's why I said I want to go.

[B]

We should go.

[A]

We should go. We should definitely go.

[F]

Tip and all that. I do. I get ones. I do the right thing.

[A]

Like your own.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, get out of here. I would still give you like 500 ones.

[F]

I would expect it. But I'm still.

[A]

I would still give you some ones if you get your own. There ain't gonna be a couple stuff, but fine. And six on it. We do that. Listen. This episode is brought to you by Prize picks. You and I make decisions every day. But on prize picks, being right can get you paid. So don't miss out on any of the excitement this football season on prize picks, where it's good to be right. Let's see here. Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick. Pick two or more players, look at their projected stat line and pick more or less. And if you are right, you could cash in big. On prize picks, how you play is up to you. If you want flexibility, choose flex. Play where you can get paid even if one of your players misses. And if you want the biggest payouts go for the power play. No matter your play. Prize picks is a great way to.

[D]

Put your tail picks to the test.

[A]

And the Joe and freeze picks of the week. Oh, we are going with this next man up mentality. I hate him. I really, really, really, really, really hate him.

[B]

It'll mess well though.

[A]

The Joe and freeze.

[B]

It'll flow better. Don't roll off the top.

[A]

Something like Joe is so dumb. The Joe and freeze picks of the week we're going with is a good pick. Hold up. Don't play with freeze, play with ticking. My hit. Dak Prescott for more than 241 and a half pass yards. Travis Kelce is a little tricky freeze, but let's see. Travis Kelce for more than 41 and a half receiving yards. Know about that one. And Hollywood Brown, that's another one for more than 35 and a half receiving yards. That's a spooky T. Oh no. We gotta see, we gotta, we gotta see how that ticket does Hollywood Brown and Kelsey.

[E]

We gonna see.

[A]

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[B]

All right. Big Mona.

[A]

Mona. I seen your interview that you did out there. I like them interviewers, so let me not say no. I seen your interview where you went on there talking about them niggas ain't paying me enough to be up there twice a week. They strict. Sometimes Jo be playing and then he get for real. I ain't used to that. Cuz I'm a boss. I try to build my own. I seen it.

[D]

He slipping that voice impersonation.

[B]

You did that then you said that.

[F]

You should have heard what I said about you.

[A]

Flip, that hurt.

[B]

Oh, I know Faith. I just keep. I'm on fire.

[F]

That's a compliment, Evans. I love. I have a funny story about that.

[A]

I do.

[F]

I went to see a play called Ain't no Mo. Daniels invited me personally. Sent the car.

[A]

Really?

[F]

Yes. And we sat.

[A]

Did he pay D back?

[F]

Yes, he did. Years ago.

[A]

Thank God.

[F]

Lee Daniel's also from North Philly. We in here and we sat like four rows back. Clive Davis sat in front of me. I wasn't sure if he was alive or not, but he was sitting upright.

[A]

So Clive is still outside too. Okay.

[F]

Every time anybody talked to him, we've.

[A]

Been looking for him.

[F]

Every time anybody talked to him had to repeat it at least three or four times. Like, he's really, really almost up there.

[A]

Oh, he trying that from Godfather of Harlem.

[B]

All right, what did we say?

[A]

You see now? Oh, you can't hear anything.

[D]

It's all fuzzy.

[A]

Alzheimer's, dementia. Yeah. Hey, I know, I know. Audrey saw he Clive Sharp as attack.

[F]

It looked like it was. If he sneezes, he will fall down. That's how.

[E]

Like, it's worth it.

[F]

Yes. But Queen Latifah walked up from the back and she bent over. She kissed me in my cheek. She said, faith, how you been? And when I looked up at her, she was like. And she ran. But she kissed me.

[E]

She thought I was her big jersey.

[A]

Yeah, you and your tongue out move.

[F]

It's the show. You gotta.

[A]

That's the other thing too. Like, you was talking up there about being ugly. But I gotta let you know that.

[F]

I mean, I can't say that's not what I said.

[A]

Love their girls. But back in the day, what I.

[B]

Said was knock them on. Hey, come to the crib. Make sure you come back in the.

[A]

In the VCR days. Hey.

[F]

Hey.

[A]

You seen this dvd?

[B]

Hey, yo, touch that. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I bought your favorite dvd. M Come through with this. The Journey.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

You look good, girl.

[F]

First, what I said was. Was my favorite comment was from a troll. Was that she said this built like Flip. I thought that was funny. That's what I said.

[A]

And you're not.

[F]

And I. I'm.

[A]

And Flip's frame is improving too. He's been working out okay.

[B]

You're built better than me.

[F]

Thank you. I appreciate that. And the second take was. They was cuz that I'm getting a lot of comparison and they just said they think that I would do well better on the podcast because y' all don't want to me. But I didn't think it was true, cuz that's crazy. That's really saying that y' all like, kind of like, you know, it's more of a dist.

[A]

Y' all is married. We're all in. We all love and married and got great.

[F]

But they making it like y' all.

[A]

Ever wanted on a single tip, though.

[B]

And if you.

[F]

I never thought that y' all went me. In fact, I said beefy on the dollar bill bags with Vaseline in it. That's what I said. I know anything.

[B]

Hey, that's you. Hey, turn on the.

[A]

To take that thing behind the dump and go.

[B]

Can turn up what you want. Turn up what you want.

[F]

I never, bro.

[A]

But you're absolutely right. When you say that have plastic bags and vaselines. That's me.

[F]

It's gonna be.

[A]

I have. I was in rehabilitation right there in Newark, and I was gonna make me a fifi. That's one thing that was for sure. The mother niggas was going to bed. Not I. Not I. And it was the dorm with all us in it. It wasn't like we ain't have our own room.

[E]

So everybody was right there.

[A]

And it was a. And it was a bunk, man. Oh, shoot.

[F]

I don't know.

[A]

It was all bunk beds in the room. You know, the room with. All of y' all know what time is.

[D]

Stop it. Don't.

[A]

Well, maybe y.

[F]

On the rehab streets is. You made the best fifi and you was selling them.

[A]

I made the best. I. I wasn't selling them, but I did make good. My fifi was so good, that was asking me to make them a fifi. Huh. I always knew that that would sound weird when I was free.

[C]

You was flipping fifi, bro.

[A]

You made fif you want.

[E]

Oh, you wasn't so good.

[F]

A real fifi is with the mattress, so you can hold it like a real fifi.

[A]

Well, only the. On the bottom bunk could get that off because they would make the fifi and then stick it there, and then they would be.

[F]

So you got a whole body to correct.

[A]

But I had the top bunk. I had the top bunk.

[F]

You out of pocket.

[A]

I was just up there shaking, shaking the.

[B]

Do y' all understand?

[F]

Listen, I need everybody in this room at home to understand this man. Because jail rules.

[A]

Crazy.

[F]

Yo, this man is in a dorm, open dorm, on the top bunk. A female fifi. Everybody has that.

[C]

Yeah, we got that.

[B]

We don't want to picture it, but yeah.

[F]

Imagine waking up to that.

[A]

And. And Joe Rose is crazy. Y' all can have that. There was, like, elitism between the. That made fifis. Cause some. Some ran out of socks, yo. God. Yo, so they will come. I told you there's a room, everybody. And they coming around. Yo, you got socks?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, it's real, though.

[A]

So them. So they just had the bag, the towel, and the Vaseline. But you have a sock, so you wasn't really. That ain't a. That's your little loosey goosey. The sock is what? With a rubber band, boy.

[F]

Yeah, he's.

[C]

I feel like running out of Vaseline would be a bigger issue than the socks.

[A]

Nobody in the region. Rehab. Was running out of Vaseline.

[B]

You don't have Vaseline in rehab.

[A]

Nobody there was running out of Vaseline.

[F]

Ever.

[D]

So I'm glad you said this. Cause this actually makes me think about something. So, Mark, that you said, Mona, I was looking at your interviews on the Internet, too.

[F]

You was watching.

[A]

Shit, man. Stop talking about us in the interview.

[D]

We do our research.

[F]

I'm talking about y' all five months. It's up. Y' all gonna see me.

[B]

What's up?

[D]

I don't want no smoke. But you did another interview where you said, my unpopular opinion is jail's not that bad back.

[F]

Yeah, I said.

[D]

You said. Yeah, you said you was happy. You said you was cool, you had a good time. You said you got a little break.

[F]

Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me clarify.

[D]

I thought that was wild.

[F]

Let me. Let me clarify it, please. Did you get out what you were saying?

[D]

No. Yeah, go.

[F]

Okay, this is the thing. I'm the type person. I'm a glass half full person, right? So whatever situation I'm in, I'm gonna make the best of it. You sentence, you already stuck in there. I've been in jail where I didn't have a sentence, where I'm just stuck. Federal holding, no bail, no, not nothing. So you going to either be in there crying every day, right, or pulling your hair out, or you going to be in there, you know, bitten. I'm talking in the toilet. I got a boyfriend in the kitchen. All that. My coming down six and Arch on the four wheelers doing willies ran in jail. All that talk.

[C]

I'm surprised to hear you said, and I'm spending. The Malcolm X fan he was, he credited prison changing his life.

[E]

That don't mean it wasn't that bad.

[D]

See, it's a difference between making the most of your bid. Your interview, you turned it down.

[F]

It's not an interview with my podcast.

[D]

Your podcast? You turned it down a little bit.

[B]

Now, podcast, you was like, I'm yelling.

[D]

I get a break. I. I got a break from the kids.

[F]

There's no bills in there. It's no kids. I say, jail's not that bad. There no bills in there. There's no kids in there.

[D]

You were selling that.

[F]

And at the end, I told them, I hope you watched the whole message. I told them, keep your head high in court. Your little dui. You walk in there with a bun in your hair and a briefcase. It don't even matter if there's nothing in it, girl. And you fight that case and don't plea out, you go to jail. You don't cry in front of them white people. You keep your head hell high. You go do your little time, girl. Do you know how many Americans are in jail, Mark? In this country, we have more people jailed than anywhere else in the world.

[B]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[F]

But no, really, like, that's a. That's a total normal experience, especially for the people that follow me. Like, they get. Do you know how people write me and ask me real live legal advice and most of the time I'm telling them to contact legal aid in their cities and the line is a year long. So it's like, yeah, I'm gonna give a. A little game. You know what I just gave him recently? When they offer you probation, they offer you a year or two. Ask them how much jail time that is. One year. Last time I was offered a probation, they offered me a year. It equaled 11 days in jail. Go do your little 11 days. You ain't gotta worry about them trying to set you up to come back to jail. It's big business.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I agree with all that.

[F]

Yeah. Make the best of it. I was in jail telling jokes. Really? That was my first stand up. If you think about, I was staying on the top tier. Crack jokes for people at the bottom tier. Everybody be laughing and.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I'm thinking about? Watch you talking freedom.

[D]

How would you ice?

[B]

Come on, bro.

[F]

You don't understand what I'm saying, though. I'm not trying to glorify it, but I feel like if you have to go through it, don't tell on your friends.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Whatever you have to do and go to jail, like every. That's the thing about it that's so irritating. Especially like with hip hop culture and just was buzzing. It's so cool to be a criminal and do the wrong thing and then you go to jail. And it's like, I ain't built for this. Yeah. Or I don't like it. Or what they do. It's like, no, like, that's a part of this. And a lot of people live them type of lives where you might go to jail.

[A]

Tell me about when y' all was supporting y' all friend that did a crime that nobody could know about so they couldn't get a job ever. But you was. That's your people. So you had the holy people.

[F]

So personal to his. I don't be knowing.

[B]

Support them.

[F]

That's some.

[A]

Yeah. No, no, and no. Back when you could not get a job because of a felony.

[F]

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

Like those days. Those times change.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

But back then. Yeah. No Had a hard time As a felon.

[F]

Yeah. Back in the day you was really stuck. Now it's a lot of big companies that hire felons. Amtrak, I think.

[D]

And they try to outlaw a box so you don't have to check the box.

[A]

And it's big companies that hire without even a background jack now.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't think of nobody that I would have to cake for that.

[A]

Cuz every time Mona get to talk every al I feel like she's saying like a new crime. She did at some point. But I seen a few reals like, you know what?

[F]

I haven't been in trouble in so long. I changed my whole life that but you know, it that it was hard like when my whole adult life. That's what what I did. So it was hard to like change them habits like you used to fast money. And I've never had no respect for the law. I don't understand how people follow laws. Like I don't get it. They don't follow any rules or laws. So why the do we have and I've al always felt like we're never going to get paid the reparation. So we should take them. I got mine, though. I don't know about yours. I got mine.

[A]

You Philly. I ain't going to hold you.

[F]

I used to be a street. I'm a comic now. And it's crazy because I be seeing they call me gang ghetto and all that in the comments and all that. I'm ghetto. But it's, you know, it's like I like the ghetto. Like I don't know people even that. It's like ghetto is only ghetto when you see do it. When you see a white girl do some ghetto, it's like flying.

[D]

That's racism.

[F]

That.

[D]

Speaking of racism, I got a question for you all. It might even be Mark. Just relax. Trust me, trust me, trust me.

[A]

The coming off of the trust is for the last few podcasts odds the trust has dwindled. I told you that in hour two you going to come politicize some shit.

[F]

That was it.

[B]

That's it, girl.

[F]

Y' all coming, girl.

[B]

That's it, girl.

[F]

I'll tell you about it later.

[A]

I'll tell you.

[F]

That's it, girl.

[A]

That's it, girl.

[B]

The train is moving. Hey, hey, yo, champ. The train moving. Champ on the board.

[F]

I mean I just felt like was like, oh, we'll talk about it later. We felt like it was going to be something.

[A]

No, that's their way of telling to.

[B]

Shut the up he doing next. You From Philly.

[F]

This one is my. This is my period. I need it straight like that.

[B]

That's all I need. So passionate. Your face be red.

[F]

You be passionate. I'm light skin, Flip. I can't help it.

[B]

I know. And I love it.

[A]

And I brought you here to do that. So I smoke these if they don't give you the Runway, but you take the Runway and run and run. You get on the plane and the pilot be like, yo, all right, we got a taxi for a little bit.

[F]

We got to have a safety word, guys.

[A]

That's true. We'll take a one.

[F]

Think of one for me.

[A]

We'll take a one. All right. Mark, she take. This is my girl. Mark.

[B]

Don't give a Mark. I just want to unfreeze now. If this.

[A]

Just bleep it.

[B]

Yo, man, just bleep it.

[A]

Hey, hey, hey. Tiger line. Then y' all are right.

[B]

He got it. Something happened here, and I'm still here. It's over.

[A]

All right? Shut up.

[B]

They going to really talk about webbing.

[A]

Shut the up. Mark, take us away.

[D]

So, family. I see stuff in the news sometime, and sometimes people get outraged and be like, this is racist. This is racist. This is racist. And sometimes I like to look at it and decide for myself, but I'm a little bit skewed sometimes. So I wanted y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

There was a kid at a school. It was the kid's birthday. The teacher sings Happy Birthday. And then things went a little awry. Parks, can you play it?

[C]

Of course. Let's see.

[A]

I'm in six. You're six. Can we sing Happy Birthday to you?

[F]

All right, here we go.

[B]

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

[F]

Happy birthday, dear Magic.

[A]

Happy birthday to you. Would you like the funny song now that I sing to you? Happy birthday to you. You live in the zoo.

[F]

You look like.

[A]

What?

[F]

You.

[A]

All right, I'm asking.

[E]

I'm asking questions, so I gotta ask the questions.

[D]

Okay, okay.

[F]

She has a great voice.

[E]

White and black.

[D]

She sounded good.

[F]

She sound like a dude.

[D]

We couldn't see. We couldn't see the teacher, but it sound. I would have assumed the teacher's white based on the sound.

[A]

She calls monkeys motor like she should do do.

[B]

Got a nice little birthday. Happy birthday.

[A]

She did have a little. Go ahead, go ahead.

[E]

I was just asking.

[D]

Yeah. So what do y' all think? I want to first, y'. All. I have an opinion on this. Might be an unpopular opinion, but I.

[A]

I never heard that version of Usually Stevie.

[F]

That's the black version, though.

[E]

Is that the white?

[C]

If she would have said the funny version and then did Stevie.

[A]

That would have been bad. Yeah, that would have definitely been racist.

[B]

That would have been racist.

[E]

I got a problem with that.

[B]

Okay, hold on.

[A]

Wait. And I've heard. I've heard now that you've played it. I've heard the extendo be, you smell like a monkey. And you.

[D]

Whatever it is, you look like one, too. Yeah, and when I smell too. And when I. I never heard you.

[A]

Look like a monkey ever in my life. I've heard that before.

[D]

I've heard that one before.

[A]

Well, I know you heard that one. Where were you when you heard that?

[D]

Was it a rally?

[F]

Who were you with?

[D]

Was something burping on the lawn?

[A]

Did you agree?

[E]

Is this something regular?

[B]

Did you sing along?

[A]

Were you clapping?

[E]

Is this some regular.

[D]

I. I want to add this right When I was talking about the story in the pre show, some of y' all weren't here near me and Cory when we were talking about somewhere on the balcony. Corey knew the song already, so a lot of people know the song.

[F]

You've never heard.

[A]

You know, they call Corey every in the. Yes, Cory's heard the song. Hey, I never heard that part.

[E]

I never heard.

[A]

They look at me and say, that's crazy.

[F]

Can somebody look up if it smell like a monkey or looks like a monkey? I want to know.

[D]

Wait, wait. Is that. Is that the determining factor, whether it's racist or not?

[F]

I want to know if she.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think she remember.

[B]

It's both.

[D]

I've heard look like a monkey and.

[F]

Smell like Black people probably tend to not say look because of the.

[B]

The what comes with I heard look like a monkey. It smell like one, too.

[C]

I want to point out that in the video since.

[F]

Oh, look like a monkey. White one, too.

[C]

The entire classroom appears to be of my complexion.

[B]

It was one, except for them two.

[D]

Black kids, one of whom was looking like.

[F]

Like what the.

[B]

That's what made me listen. That's what made. When I saw the kid do that, I you.

[D]

That's when my flag went up. Jamal was like, what the.

[B]

This.

[D]

I'm going back home.

[E]

It does go. You look like a monkey. It's smell like one.

[A]

Are you about you googling stuff you. No.

[F]

The reason why he caught my eye, right?

[B]

Because the first parks. What the.

[G]

White power.

[B]

P.S.

[A]

My bad.

[B]

Parks be all right.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

You need to sit on the white chair.

[A]

Correction. Shut the fuck.

[E]

Yo, it's not that Correction. That was reading from her version. The original is you live in a zoo. You Smell like a monkey. And you act like one too.

[A]

Thank you, Fred.

[F]

That's the original one.

[A]

That's how it. Thank you.

[F]

Whole time it's probably.

[D]

I've heard it look like one though.

[A]

So now that's racist as fuck.

[F]

But all of those. Listen, all of those old songs anyway, most of them was all little racist ass pickaninny bullshit songs anyway, first of all. Second of all, all, it was hard to guy cuz I'm like, you too. Like, I feel like sometimes people just jump on it and it's not that deep. I don't want to waste time. But the video that I saw somebody like edited. So when Lil Jamal made that, what the is zoomed in on him and I just straight up with him. You know how black people are. One run, the other one run. And the thing about it is my middle son is around that age and my middle son would have reacted like that because he hip, he know that monkey mean and all that. So that's what really made me think, like. Because even him making that face might even lead to. Well, bitch, normally you just say happy birthday. What's the funny song about?

[B]

You feel me?

[F]

Even if you didn't get monkey, either way, it's just. It don't look right. Where did you share that at? Why are you filming kids? This is you the teacher.

[D]

Why are you filming?

[A]

And if you ain't singing Happy birthday for every fucking kid in that class.

[F]

Come on. Exactly.

[A]

Then we gotta fuck you up as parents.

[D]

All right, here's my unpopular opinion.

[A]

Oh, go ahead.

[E]

I'm just saying I'm with that shit seem racist first.

[D]

That, here's what I say first, it's September.

[A]

So.

[D]

Nope. This might be the first birthday we've had. You know what I mean? If it's September, right, In the school, a class of 10, 12, it's a good school. Only like 12 kids in the class. September birthdays maybe, but it could be like 2.

[F]

It's not in the ghetto.

[D]

Cause it's 10 kids with 1012 kids in the class. So you got a fighting chance. That's number one. Number two, I think this, there's the intent and then there's the practice. Black people been called monkeys, right? We've been associated with monkeys, that we're not human. So singing that song to that kid, whether you meant to or not, becomes an act of racist here. I think we should need to establish that she should know better and you should know better. And that's why when you train teachers, you should train teachers to have cultural Competence. So that you don't do that. So that you know that the cops, everybody. But I do want to at least say that we shouldn't assume that the teacher had an ill intent when doing it. That doesn't excuse the teacher's actions. But this idea that the teacher decided to shame this kid, I find it harder to believe. I think it's more of, like, the white privilege of not knowing. Knowing that you don't sing this song for this kid. That you. You can't treat everybody exactly the same.

[F]

In that way that you would be comfortable to sing that on a camera.

[D]

Because you don't videotape yourself in your first month of school calling the black kid a monkey and putting on the Internet if you like. I don't think they would do that. I think she actually thought she was doing something cute and funny and wanted to showcase her doo wop voice. And actually.

[F]

Because clearly she has another career.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

She's trying to get on. I don't think she was trying to do that. But that's sometimes how racism works and white privilege works. You don't realize what you're doing.

[E]

Well, now you know.

[F]

Commercial.

[A]

She should still be reprimanded for that.

[D]

I was going to say. What's the punishment?

[F]

Fired.

[A]

Please. You still going to run out and watch Planet Apes? Watch all these movies they send these little messages in.

[F]

It was secret messages. And planet.

[B]

That's what I'm saying now. You saying that you just. You just was complaining that you didn't know Caesar died. I went to go watch it, and now you saying this. Yo, my Caesar died. See, he did the same shit. Joe. Like, it took me an hour.

[F]

Caesar died.

[B]

Joe said it took me an hour to realize that Caesar wasn't there.

[A]

Wait, hold up now. Cause y' all gonna say I'm being FBA again.

[B]

You are.

[A]

I'm not. Nobody else here heard the stories that was running around when Planet of the Apes came out. No. Now it's just my algorithm.

[F]

Yeah, I did.

[D]

That is the FBA algorithm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You got that?

[D]

That's supposed to be Harlem.

[B]

Nobody's gonna believe me.

[A]

I've never been in any FBA space. I've never heard any FBA talking points.

[F]

Is Caesar alive or not?

[B]

He's dead.

[E]

He did.

[A]

They killed the out of Caesar. Like.

[E]

He got older.

[B]

Stop saying that. You spread wrong.

[D]

Sickle cell.

[B]

Did he have sickle cell diabetes? The police did he have s. Drop by.

[F]

That's crazy.

[A]

How many y' all knew who. What sickle cell was before Tupac Said it me for real.

[F]

My classmate had it. She would always get out of school cuz she would be sick all the time. And I found out that they only have like a life. They usually die like around before 25. Back then. It was then. And it scared the out of me as a kid. Cuz I looked into it and I'm like so freaked out she was going to die. I couldn't even talk to her after that. But that's why.

[D]

How old are you?

[A]

You're not supposed to ask.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

I just.

[D]

I. I thought. You look so young. I thought that would have been after. I thought that would have been after Tupac. That's why I asked.

[A]

You look so.

[D]

She look so young. I was like, that was 96. That's why I said it.

[F]

We already secretly agreed on Twitter that we would go against all these if we had to because of the city.

[D]

Purely cuz you look so young. That was it.

[F]

Stick with the.

[D]

I'm with the. I'm with the plan.

[A]

We slide y Black liberation. Y what Slide y'. All. And. And the ride. Rocky steps.

[B]

I can't talk about the Rocky Steps Slide y'. All.

[A]

And Oprah.

[F]

Philly people are very tough though.

[B]

We are tough. People like to fight.

[F]

Yeah. And we good at it.

[A]

What'd you think about Bill Cosby?

[F]

Keep a pocket rocket.

[D]

I never.

[F]

I haven't been a fan of Bill Cosby since he like went on that little rant about black men ain't and all that. I was. I lost. I never. I never. The thing about Bill Cosby is you think of Cliff Huxtable. I seen Bill Cosby and he don't like. So that's how I took it from the door.

[A]

Boom. There you have it.

[E]

That was the Bill.

[A]

There you have it.

[F]

Montgomery County. Did you dirty too. They did me dirty before too. Bill.

[D]

Another case ain't no joke.

[F]

I beat that.

[A]

Shut up. Are any of y' all going up to the school? If the teacher sings monkey Happy Birthday. Yes.

[D]

Yes.

[F]

On a video. Joe.

[E]

I ain't got to be video. The kid come home and say that happened.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm going to school.

[D]

We go. My wife went up to the school for some other hair fiasco.

[F]

What happened?

[D]

I can say it now. Cause we left the school. Yeah. They basically told all the kids to have their hair in French braids. And everybody. Hair don't grow that way. Look that way long enough like that. And they weren't thinking about the two or three black kids who might not necessarily be able to do that so my wife went up there and made a report, talked to the school. We ain't got no daughter in the school. It wasn't even our issue. But we cared enough about it. Or she cared enough about it. Actually, she cared enough about it to. To go up there.

[F]

And you ain't got no kids in the school?

[D]

We got a kid in the school. We have a son.

[F]

Oh, you got a boy?

[D]

We got a boys with him.

[A]

Yo, you do it?

[D]

Oh, I was terrified.

[A]

So you did have a kid in the school.

[D]

Yeah. It didn't affect us because we don't have a girl is what I'm saying.

[B]

He got a son.

[D]

He's not gonna have French braids. So I'm saying it wasn't our. It wasn't like we're complaining.

[A]

Just slow down. So your son was ch. Chilling.

[D]

Oh, he was fine.

[E]

Not affected at all by this.

[A]

Great. He was French braid day. Marcus A y.

[B]

It wasn't him. He said his wife did it.

[F]

His wife did.

[A]

She.

[D]

I got notified from the school. It wasn't me. I support. You know when your girl goes up to the counter like that meme, this ain't what we. And you hiding behind.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, then I gotta shut up. We gotta shut up.

[D]

No, my wife favorite. I love my wife. And she's 100% right. I wouldn't have thought to write in and advocate for this other parent, these other parents who nonexistent. And then the parents kind of sold us out. That's the other part.

[A]

See, that's why I wouldn't do it.

[E]

That's why you got.

[A]

That's exactly why I wouldn't do it. Unless I'm flying with a parent. Well.

[D]

Cause my wife, she contacted the school, she contacted the parents, she contacted everybody. And she did the right thing. She was 100% right. The parents on the low was like, you right. And then when the school reached out. Is that no big deal, One of these handkerchief hand negroes, you know what I'm saying? We will do whatever we have to to comply with the school's regulations. Like, basically, like act. And they would've sold you out.

[A]

Sold us out.

[E]

Sold out.

[A]

I think one of the most important lessons to learn in raising a kid is don't trust none of the parents of the kids at the school that your kid go to and don't trust your kids, friends, parents.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

That's all true. Hey, call that house before and after the sleepover over, check in, make sure she's straight. Who up in there? Yeah, yeah. Send me some videos and clips. You got to get fly with the parents. You got to get fly with parents.

[F]

I'm saying no to sleepovers anyway. What's the point? Like, really, why are we sleeping over?

[D]

My daughter didn't do no sleep. She did one.

[F]

I. It's. It's no. Like, things happen to sleepovers. And it's never like. It's never the people that live in the house. It's the visiting nephew, the visiting sister or whatever. No. What's the point of it if. Why, why. Why y' all playing all day? The y' all gotta sleep together for. I could bring you in the morning. Y' all have breakfast together. No.

[D]

Yeah. I don't trust.

[F]

I'm gonna keep you safe.

[A]

Yeah, Go sleep at your cousin house.

[B]

Oh, you just watch the kids.

[F]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. You ain't got cousins.

[F]

What you say?

[B]

Or just watch. Make sure that, you know, check on them.

[F]

Hey, yo, Flip, you always come like that. How much can you check on these? If you.

[A]

You can.

[B]

You gotta move and do what you.

[F]

You gotta take a right.

[B]

Take a shower with an iron fist.

[F]

In reality, you sit on the couch. You get lost in the. The game.

[B]

No, not me. I don't.

[D]

No, no. He definitely don't be couch at home.

[B]

That don't know what color the couch at home, huh? Didn't you hurt your back bringing the couch at home, huh? Picking up that fridge. Watch your mouth. Watch. Talking about family. If y n talking my family, I'mma fry y' all up.

[A]

Who's y'? All?

[B]

Both of you. But both of you.

[A]

Me and you going to fight.

[B]

Tap dance and boss. Both of you. I dare y'.

[A]

All. But me and you gonna fight. Cause I ain't said nothing to you. And you keep trying to bring the smoke to my door.

[B]

I'm not trying to. But you know, I'm hurt. I'm projecting. But you can't talk about the family.

[F]

My couch.

[A]

I didn't.

[B]

But you agree with him.

[A]

I'm telling Mark that you got mad couches.

[F]

What's wrong with the nigga couch?

[A]

He got couches in the couch.

[D]

Nothing is wrong with his couch. It's never worn. It's gonna be home watch. I just say he be out all the time.

[A]

The mobile house from the wood Sleepover.

[F]

Yo, they playing.

[A]

They violating all.

[D]

Excuse me.

[B]

The point that I was making to.

[F]

You, Flip, I feel like when you. I feel like when you talk, like, almost like. I don't know. Help me with my words. I'm trying to say. I mean, I know I could say it, but I'm trying to spit it out. Like, almost. Almost like, best case scenario or. In a perfect world, we were talking weeks ago about something, I think, about dating, letting your kid date. And he was like, oh, my kid. Just not allowed to date to a certain age. And I'm like, well, realistically, you can't really stop, especially God. And listen, I'm not. What you said before, you know, I'm not talking about specifically your family. Right.

[B]

I got you.

[F]

But like me, for example. My little sisters, right? When people say in the street, like when teenagers or young adults get a little sniffing dick, there's nothing you could do to stop that. That's number one, right? And then on the side the of of it, the real point we were making is that if the kid comes to you and speaks to you, that's the best case scenario. Because now they know they could come talk to you. But even in this situation, you're saying, oh, well, we can have a sleepover as long as we watch the kids. But in a perfect reality, you will always be able to see everything done. But in real life, you have this. They rumbling on the block? No, I got an hour left. Anyway, so. So here's the thing.

[B]

Here's the thing. I have my son, J.R. you know, he's 20, so he's on the same type of time I am when it comes to his siblings. So while I'm not there, I know J.R. is there.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And when you. After I said that, had that conversation, I went to go talk to Princess. Yeah. And I said, yo, do you have a boyfriend? And she confessed.

[A]

Baddie.

[B]

You wanna have the conversation? Yes.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

And I was there like this, scratching my face. J.R. already knew. J.R. said, Pops, I met him. I checked him. Da, da.

[F]

You was busy.

[B]

I said, cool. But you guys opened my eyes. And I went to go sit down with Princess. And she told me her grades lined up. She told me. I said, tell me the truth.

[A]

What's going on?

[B]

She said, daddy, I never went out with the guy. He asked me. This is the second time asking me. She showed me. The first time, he asked her months ago, nearly a year ago, she said. I said, no. And the second time, I'm like, all right. And she opened up to me. Even though I was talking bullshit there, I was retaining the information. I said, let me go home and do that, just in case I have to kill somebody.

[F]

That's what's up, Flip. I'm proud of you, Flip.

[B]

And then JR But J already. J already had the breakdown. Junior showed me his whole thing.

[F]

He real big brother, for real. That's what he supposed to do.

[A]

Supposed to do.

[F]

Yeah. That's what's up.

[C]

Shut up.

[A]

I don't want no beep and my back hurt. No. This my man, so he's my man.

[F]

He ain't.

[B]

He ain't going.

[A]

I don't think he going to hook off on me when he do that.

[B]

Hey, you know, said, I told you on the phone. I said, joe said, the best time to fire a nice is when he's going through personal issues.

[D]

He is right.

[B]

I said, wait, what? I said, ian, that's not nice. He said, yo, Flip, him and I.

[A]

Are in alignment on that.

[B]

That is the most. Even though you're right, a lot of people didn't agree with that.

[A]

If so many other facets of your life is up, I'd be a fool to think that work is going to be the only slider that's at 99.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

But you don't think that was the point. You don't think that people will come to work to get away, to escape.

[A]

From you doing great at your work, then there should be other areas you're doing great at, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I think the premise is if you're not doing good at work, not just because you're doing bad, I'm gonna fire you.

[A]

Right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, if you not performing well at work, 9.9 times out of 10, there's some other areas that you're not performing well into at all. Kind of true.

[B]

Over.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I was trying. It sounded like, oh, my wife left.

[E]

Sounded like, all right, well, you already down, so.

[B]

But he didn't say it like that.

[D]

I know.

[A]

I'm with you explained myself poorly.

[D]

You explain it well this time. First time it makes sense.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, yeah, it happens the first time.

[F]

It just sound like you was just being like a dick.

[A]

Like, well, you going to come off like a dick no matter what.

[F]

No, but that makes total sense.

[B]

And I'm a dick.

[A]

I don't mind. It's okay.

[B]

He.

[F]

He don't think you had to be addict to make it to the top.

[A]

Now you talking. I wanted to get this Bryson Tiller, but you cooking now. You cooking now.

[F]

My growing. I'm about to be a dick. I'm going to the top. You want all that nice feed the homeless that.

[B]

Ah, no. Feed the homeless. Keep feeding them.

[F]

I'm just saying that's my brand right now. Being nice, trying to put on feed.

[B]

Homeless, they be having attitudes on the line. What the is up with them?

[F]

Homeless told me last night, I want something sweet.

[D]

You know, being homeless might give you an attitude.

[B]

Like, might be a little quinky, right? I'm not in the best mood today. I got.

[D]

I live in the alley.

[F]

I might have in the back. Cut that off.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Cut that out in the back first and said they want something sweet.

[F]

No, I. I got the. I got the two drumsticks in the thigh. I got him a pack of stick. I gave him $5 cash. My exact words to him is, I didn't give a. If you smoke crack with this or eat this, I don't care. Because he was trying to lie about why he went. You know what I mean? I'm like, bro, you can have both. It's not that deep or whatever, but we got the chicken, we got all that stuff. He was like. I was like, you good, bro? He was like, man, I just wanted something sweet, like.

[A]

A honey bun. But what you did after that, he went where he went with you. See, that's what I was wondering. Like, you live that close to D. Like.

[B]

Like.

[A]

All right, all right. Hey, hey. We going to make a few take. All right, all right. That's. That's be. That's be. Yo, that's good. Not close enough, cuz I give them too. But it be by the Lincoln Tunnel was how she had two thighs. A drum she went from the kitchen.

[D]

She said.

[A]

Yo, he di and take this medicine.

[F]

That's crazy.

[A]

Oh my God.

[F]

That's crazy.

[C]

Holy.

[A]

That's funny.

[F]

That's crazy.

[A]

Are we done with the happy birthday? We are clear who else they call the mark?

[D]

That's this my report for the week.

[A]

That's my racist report for the week, Mark. God damn it. All right, there is more in music.

[E]

Yes, there is.

[A]

I don't know if you guys care about Bryson Tiller's album dropping. I do.

[C]

I didn't know it happened.

[E]

I like the first disc dropped.

[A]

The first disc? Yeah, yeah.

[E]

It's weird because the second disc dropped.

[A]

In August 1st, which was the rap.

[E]

Project, which I was cool off, which.

[A]

I never listened to until this morning when I let the R B album play and then I fell asleep cuz it was three in the morning and then I woke up and this rapping was rap. Yo, he want to talk about a that was confused like, yo, what the is this doing? And contrary to what y' all told me, he doing some pretty good rapping. I just don't want to hear that.

[E]

That's what we said.

[C]

I didn't say he was bad at rapping.

[A]

Yeah. It ain't bad. Rap song that he snuck.

[B]

Did you.

[A]

You listen cuz you sent it to me. The rap song that he snuck on.

[E]

There on the R and B one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

It ain't bad that.

[A]

Nah, he rapping.

[E]

But the. Yeah.

[C]

We was just saying we don't.

[E]

We want to hear him say we wanted R and B album. That's what we wanted. Not saying he can't rap or nothing like that.

[F]

He did a little rapping on the first one. Just a little bit.

[C]

A little bit.

[A]

These be wanting to be they rap. They do and they had they Nas. Yeah. So I ain't mad at it. I support that what they want.

[E]

I'm not mad at that. You gave the fans that want to hear you ar hear the R and B. We got that. And then the fans that want to hear rap.

[A]

You.

[E]

You covered everybody.

[F]

You think people going to react to it like they did the first one? The first clip I ever seen Bryson Tiller was a whole theater singing. You couldn't even hear him singing. And that was before it was even big. He already had like this little fan base following him.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Because he blew up on SoundCloud.

[F]

Right. The fan base gonna respond well to this.

[E]

All the feedback I've seen is like, this is some of the best music he's put out in years.

[C]

Oh, really?

[F]

I can't believe I didn't know it dropped. Like, what the.

[C]

I didn't hear it was up.

[A]

It was.

[C]

It's Taylor Swift week.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Most people got the out the way.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

It was like 200 white girls in front of Target and I'm like, what the are they doing here? They was waiting for something. 12 o'.

[D]

Clock.

[A]

This Bryson album is tough, but his last album was really good.

[C]

It was.

[A]

I don't know how it sold, so I don't know what people think of it critically. His last album was really good. That. That's the one with the song you daring at me like you want this. What's the name?

[D]

Monet.

[A]

Right. Visions Tonight. That album got joints on it.

[C]

Yeah, it does.

[A]

On this R and B album. It's. It's. It's more the same. It's. It's more the same. It's. It's really good. Bryson r and b.

[E]

39. Week one of the. The last album.

[D]

What?

[E]

39?

[C]

That ain't bad.

[A]

39,000.

[E]

You said you didn't know what it sold.

[A]

I. I mean, that's great. I don't care what it sold. I just didn't know if people out there knew that his last album was that good. This R B. He in his bag.

[E]

He talking.

[A]

That's good. I like the. The state that Bryson is in. Like, he's quiet. He's on some introvert. We got it. It looks like now he's learned how to do that effectively. Even him coming out at the Chris Brown show with the hoodie over his head. You can't really see him, but he's doing the hit that he's on. Like, he looks more comfortable and the music sounds like that. That's what I'm trying to say.

[E]

Sound like you found yourself.

[F]

Yeah. Pretty much grew up a little bit. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because remember, he said the success came and then he damn near hated music.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I thought he was gonna say.

[E]

He told us that up here.

[A]

I feel that story. And congratulations. Don't. The single. 15 times platinum. Let me get the round of applause. 15. God damn it. That's amazing. That's crazy.

[F]

It's a gray.

[A]

So.

[F]

Song though.

[E]

It is. And this is the anniversary of trap.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So congratulations. But, yeah, back to this.

[F]

If I with it, I got to be good.

[E]

Disc one. This is a solace. Well, the album is called Solace and Devices.

[A]

You know, I mean, just so you see the vibe here on My bad freeze. Oh, no, no, no.

[E]

Go ahead.

[A]

This is track one. This is called Strife. I like playing the first track when we talking about albums, just so you can kind of.

[E]

Hey, that's what set it off.

[A]

No more R. Marriage. Uncover all the things I done to you in all fairness can we hit these?

[F]

Consider everything all the things no need.

[A]

For comparing things like parenting. See what I mean by like Bryson R and B?

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

Huh.

[F]

Spent all night trying to wrap my head around this Drumming the town Trying.

[A]

To recollect what I said Checking up on you Text and sending flowers instead crying out again Track two is no contest and if y' all got something y' all want me to play, please let me know.

[E]

Sun signs is my. But that's towards the end.

[A]

What'd you say?

[E]

Sun signs is my Star signs. Star sign.

[D]

Excuse me.

[A]

That's Star Signs.

[E]

That one is.

[A]

This whole. Is pretty tough, right? This is a good, good, good project.

[E]

Salute. Bryce.

[F]

Are we in the right place with the wrong time?

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[E]

This the one right here?

[A]

Yes, sir. Wait a minute. Are we in the right space with the wrong star signs? Sh.

[F]

In my.

[A]

Are we supposed to shine in this life.

[F]

We share?

[B]

An illusion.

[C]

This sounds great.

[E]

Yeah, bro, this is.

[F]

That's your favorite one.

[E]

Yeah, that's my favorite one on that.

[C]

Sounds great.

[E]

On this.

[C]

I didn't even know this dropped, man, either.

[A]

Nah, this is hard, man. I was disappointed that the rap one dropped first, but I get it. But I've been waiting on this for a while. Shout out to Bryson Tiller, man, friend of the show.

[E]

And shout out to doing what you want to do. He been saying for years this is what he wanted to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I want to give a rap album and an R and B album. You did it. I mean, it's good music all the way across the board, so salute.

[A]

I'mma play off the phone for a second. Okay. Right. Cause I woke up, I didn't buy all the songs I wanted to buy. I was doing what the fuck I wanted to do this morning when I woke up. Nigga at three in the morning, nigga walked around, butt ass the house. Yeah. Text your girl some emojis so she get off your back.

[F]

Back.

[A]

You know what I mean? Yo, I'm thinking about you. Move. Yeah, what's up? Anyway, so Leon Thomas put out a song called just how you are. Have y' all heard it?

[B]

No.

[A]

Imani, I know you heard it. I'm gonna let y' all hear this now. Save.

[E]

Okay, okay.

[C]

Up tempo, Bob.

[A]

Yeah, real up tempo. This nigga's taking over. Let this rock for a little bit. I absolutely love this. Was it too. Not even just the same word, I guess. Care as.

[C]

This Sounds tough.

[E]

That's fire right there.

[A]

Sheesh.

[F]

That's nice.

[B]

She.

[D]

I love that.

[F]

Give Prince vibes.

[C]

Oh, he got a. He got a coming up.

[D]

When?

[C]

October 24th. It says.

[B]

Oh, no, I like it. I'm just trying to. I guess the. The drum patterns. I have to get it used, you know?

[D]

That's the part I love. That's why I was kind of me. Drum pattern.

[A]

Groovy.

[E]

I'm over here like.

[F]

Yeah, make you want D dance.

[A]

Who? Oh, well, the scary. I was about to say this. The scary part is nothing like that is on his album. And his album. Was he close to classic?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like, that album was all the way here. So he. That you still hearing songs from it today. And it came out a while ago. Every artist that's been up here has given all the praise and props and flowers to Leon Thomas, for sure. He said he's felt it in his career, and now he's right back. Not even, however, any month later with an ep with a new sound. Well, we Think. Yeah, yeah. Not new sound, because I'm sure he. He sound like he's comfortable in his pocket. That would, to me, be scary for other R and B acts.

[D]

Well, that's what. That's what I was going to ask you about last night. It made me think of something Rafael Siddiq said last night. He said when he was writing, I think he was talking about ask of you. He or me and one of them ask of you. He said that he was always writing against Babyface. And he was like, every time Babyface came out a song, he was like, man, I can't. What the Can I do with this? What the fuck can I do with this? So I can't fuck with him a little bit with Guy, too. But he was saying Babyface was the person. He was always like the competition. That was the standard.

[A]

See, that's the. And that's the conversation I kind of wanted to have here a little bit. Right. Artists, for all of their glory and their machismo and superstardom, they never gonna tell you who they was really writing against. Yeah, every artist was writing, fighting against somebody.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Every artist in the world. I'm not saying when you maybe first wrote the record, but every artist has somebody where you watch during their career.

[E]

You seeing it, you keeping your eye.

[A]

On what even if you the best.

[E]

More so if you the best, that's.

[C]

Where we get the best music from. The steel sharp and steel.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[E]

Like, if you're the best, you really watching? Because now I got to watch who creeping up. Who here? Who the newcomer. I'm. Hell, yeah.

[A]

So, like, I'm listening to new music in my morning routine. That's what I do on Fridays and on the new music side of the streaming, because I don't stream. I buy albums. But on that side, when you play it on the new music streaming side, when the record ends, the next record comes on. Okay. Boy, I'm glad that wasn't my error.

[E]

Like, the suggested.

[A]

It's coming right on after. Whatever's next that they put there is coming on after. And, boy, you better make sure that your shit stands up to whatever they putting on after you. Yeah, they are. They are controlling the playlist, and some of y' all and the vibe y' all trying to go. I went from Leon Thomas to some whole other. To some whole. And then they got to blast. Who put out a song called A Girl. I'm gonna let y' all hear a little bit of that right now. Shout out to Blast. Another friend of the Show. I love these chords. So I was on this different already. Hey girl, you the only thing real.

[B]

In this fake world Know you want me sit still but I can't.

[A]

Hope you guys go to work Keeping on saying dangers and safe girl you know the TR come a great.

[B]

It's okay, girl yeah I just want.

[E]

To know if you going to wait.

[B]

Girl for me I like that.

[E]

I like sounds.

[B]

Sounds Boy is mine is safe.

[E]

Typical black. Yeah.

[A]

Well, those are the boy is mine chords. Good call. But those are the boys mind chords. Yeah. It sound like no matter what you think of this song, it sounds like Blast. And I was vibing a little bit. It sounds cool.

[B]

I like that record.

[A]

When that came on a few songs after the Leon Thomas, I wanted to come ask y'. All, does Leon Thomas. Thomas make it difficult for Blast? Yes.

[F]

I mean, do you think.

[D]

I think it makes it difficult for everybody right now.

[A]

Yeah. But some more so than others.

[D]

Blast more than others.

[A]

I agree with you. Some more so than others.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

And you think Prince, like, that's a high standard to even be compared or. You know what I mean? Compared to. But he sound good.

[B]

Like, are you comparing them because they have similar sounds? I don't. You know, this is my first time.

[C]

I don't think they do.

[A]

If. Not really. If you. You, if, if. If you are fighting for a market share in the R B world as a guy, you gotta look at other guys. Okay.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. I don't think they sounded like. I think it's just.

[B]

No, I was trying to see what he was saying. Are they on the same lady? So.

[A]

So if you. A new act. Leon Thomas might be from the Nickelodeon. All that, but.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

But it's album time. And now we in the big. The big dog park. Got it. Everybody got deals. My label believes in me. Your label believes in you. They putting me out. They putting you out. Well, I'm just talking. Oh, I'm not saying them too.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I'm just giving a scenario.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I'm gonna eventually drop my R B album. Somebody else that's new in the field drops one and it kind of takes off and it starts getting heat. And now remixes come. And now Chris Brown is on these songs. And now Victoria Monet is on these songs. Now this artist is on a feature run. Run. Now the album is critically acclaimed. And now I pop out with a whole new sound that wasn't there before as change.

[D]

Blast.

[A]

No, Lucky Day is not worried about nothing. Leon Thomas is doing. Lucky Day is not worried about nothing. Leon Thomas.

[D]

Why do you say that? That's. I think he would be for the same logic. Right. Like you said earlier. Like, even if you up there, you're still looking around for everybody, and it's taking up a lot of space.

[A]

Well, no, I think Lucky Day is aware of what Leon Thomas is doing. I'm sure he's a big fan. I'm not. I'm not trying to say that.

[D]

Okay, okay, okay.

[A]

I don't think Lucky Day and who my man to do all his. All his. His whole Lucky Day got a team D. That's what I'm thinking about. I they aware, and I'm sure that they're fans. I don't think that they. They're worried. I don't think they're worried. And I don't think they would be in the same boat as last Lucky Day album was out already. Lucky Day did this before there was a Leon Thomas anywhere in the field. Yeah.

[C]

I don't think Lucky Day is worried about Blast.

[A]

He went off already, is what I'm saying. Saying he established himself.

[D]

He's saying, like, he needs to worry about Leon is. I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

At the top. You got to watch that one that's creeping up.

[A]

Anybody from. From the Leon Thomas era. I think Lucky Day beat that out already. Lucky Day was at Rosa Mo was. I know time flies. Rosa Mo was probably seven years ago.

[D]

More than that.

[C]

Maybe more than that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It was like 2016.

[A]

He's gone already.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

2017, I think he's gone already. Already. Lucky Day is gone. Sellout tours is. He's gone. He's gone. He's out of here. You've seen the show. He was there.

[B]

I know you were there.

[A]

And I could say something.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If I'm Blast, I'm worried. I would. I would. That would be on my radar. That would be on my radar. Sorry. I know you might think I'm crazy. That would be on my radar.

[E]

I don't have that on my radar. I think Blast got much bigger problems anyway right now. Like. Like the statement you made about my label believing me. I don't. I don't see Blast having that. And I think that. Yeah.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

Yeah. But that's Blast Should. Should model more after Bryson Tiller than anybody else on some introvert. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. And I mean, not for nothing, their music is a little more close.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But Leon. Leon Thomas is a different beast. He's got face recognition. He's good it talking to the public because he's been doing it since he was a kid. He can play. He's got mad people in the industry that love his. I mean this blast has that too.

[A]

If I sold 15 million singles, then I don't care about none of that either. Yeah. I like Guy. The Guy R B war. I'm going to dig deeper into that.

[B]

Pause cuz you made the war up. They probably didn't.

[A]

I didn't make the talking about it. I ain't never making nothing up. And I'm not talking about something existing between them two. I'm just talking about art. The mind of artists.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a competitive game is all I'm saying.

[E]

You might. You might.

[A]

If you. If you.

[E]

Leon Thomas, you might. I'm not gonna sit there and say like I'm. I'm worried. But you could definitely look here and say godamn this.

[A]

Got another one.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh my God. Like that's what I'm saying.

[B]

I'm annoyed.

[E]

You're a headache.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But you think that the record that you just played the last word.

[A]

You know what the problem is in music? Honestly. Listen, honestly. If me and you are of equal skill. Me and you flip or me and anyone and you have to rely on the producers that you just come in contact with or the producers from your hood or the producers you grew up with or the songwriter you grew up with. If you just relying on your toolbox. Yeah. And the other. Got that other bag. This Leon Thomas song sounds like that other bag.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

It just sounds and like it was mixed by not from the hood, mastered, written by the beat done by the engineer.

[B]

Sounds like a lot band and.

[A]

And the.

[E]

Not to compare but. And the Blast records sound like the same records I made with the same people from.

[A]

But a really good version of it. Yeah, but a really good version of it.

[E]

I like it. I love the song is dope.

[A]

I like it too. But it's just. Oh, you said Leon Thomas making a harp. I ain't gonna lie. He is making a heart.

[E]

He would be.

[A]

Because what you got to worry about as an artist is that other artist that you talking about training and program in the ears of listeners that you trying to. To get.

[B]

Oh yeah, I see what you're saying.

[A]

It gets deep if you artist to artist. Like I sound like a madman to some people out there. But it could get crazy. We just was talking about all these artists that may or may not be. May or may not have waited for Taylor Swift to get out. The way her date is out. Her date is now right her date is now.

[E]

You heard them. It was 200.

[A]

They moved.

[C]

Why you think we only got a couple little things to talk about.

[A]

They got out. They all got out the way.

[C]

Everyone got the out the way.

[A]

And they should have.

[B]

Absolutely.

[D]

Listen, it's good.

[C]

It's all Max Martin, so I'm sure it's high level.

[D]

Yeah, It's a particular vibe I didn't.

[B]

Need a single from.

[F]

You heard Taylor sw?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I like.

[D]

I like to listen to pop music. I listen to Doja Cat today too. Just trying to get a sense of some of the new people.

[A]

He's a fan of more whites than he lets off.

[D]

That's.

[E]

That's the real talk.

[A]

The dozer is hard. Hard.

[C]

Yo, it's all right.

[A]

That.

[B]

That 80s.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I liked all the sack solos. That was very 80s.

[D]

Yeah. I like the vibe of it. I like that sound.

[A]

I'm a fan of that. That, that sound. Yeah, that's the sound that Shake used to do. Shout out to Shake too.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But do you. Is projected to do 58k. She is online treating this like it's a flop. Her streaming numbers are down. I think the first day streaming was at 14 million versus her last project, which was 25 million. Yeah, yeah. So the numbers are down. She's having fun with it.

[C]

I could be wrong because I don't know if I follow her on social media, but I don't feel like there was a lot of build up for this in terms of if it wasn't marketing.

[A]

I didn't see it.

[D]

Yeah, it wasn't.

[F]

I just knew it was a pop. It was going to be pop, but I didn't see anything else.

[D]

And it's super popular.

[C]

It's very popular.

[A]

I just want to highlight a Doja first flop because we be acting like the white can't flop. And I don't even know if those are white.

[D]

No, that's why I just said I.

[F]

Don'T know if she's white.

[A]

But she's part of that protected group where if something happened to her, the hood ain't say, oh, look at Doja's first week. No, bring your ass over here too.

[E]

That's cuz she. She don't market to us like that.

[A]

Right.

[E]

She don't give a what we think. She in there showing feet.

[A]

Audience, I gotta let y' all know we having a tough time up here with our. No phones on set. We are. We having a tough time.

[B]

Oh, we not.

[F]

Some of not.

[A]

It's Mark. Please, it's Mark.

[D]

I ain't Having no tough time.

[A]

It's Mark. But we gonna get through it. We cool, y'. All.

[D]

I don't need the phone during breaks. I just like to look up stuff so I can have it in my head for the next segment.

[A]

I'm just amazed that y' all use your phones to speak to people. That's the part. Yeah.

[C]

That's not what these are for.

[A]

That's the part that's the most mind boy blowing to me. Y' all take y' all phone out and use the phone to people. Yeah, they use the phone app.

[C]

I delete that off from page and all that. Yeah, Search for it.

[D]

What do you do? How do you communicate?

[A]

Mostly I don't pull up.

[F]

I text Joe one time. He. He took 30, 42 days to text me back. He. He was right on the convo, though. Like, he was right in it.

[D]

You just as bad, huh? Give me time. You definitely take like, rewind that and.

[F]

Cut that one out. Oh. Only y' all could do that.

[A]

No, you could do it, but you want to do that. You want to take.

[D]

I don't know if you were joking or not.

[F]

No, I'm joking.

[B]

We don't know what you do.

[A]

We learning since you're here.

[F]

Yeah, y' all don't know it. That's crazy. It's kind of dry, like, you know I love you. My face is straight. You don't really.

[A]

You know I like it too.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And your face a beautiful.

[F]

Thank you. 86% of what I say.

[A]

I'm around same, but nobody takes me like that. Nobody takes me like that.

[B]

Don't try to relate to her.

[A]

I never.

[B]

You hide already. She.

[A]

I never talk serious. When take right there.

[F]

She my.

[B]

I don't give a.

[F]

Cool out.

[B]

You said what you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

What's.

[A]

What's up, Flip? I'll fight you. No.

[F]

Y' all might got to get one off.

[B]

I don't want to fight you at all. I love you too much. If you like.

[A]

You want to fight me? Yeah. We not fighting today.

[F]

We. It ain't happening on bag. It's got to be fair.

[A]

I. Yeah. I don't. You strong. I ain't. You strong. I need my full working back paws.

[B]

Nobody going to let me fight you.

[A]

There you go, Ti all these Chill, chill.

[F]

If y' all rumble, who. Who you got jumping you?

[A]

Everybody. If Flip did something to me. Would hurt. Would do something to him. Niggas would have a long stern talking to him if he even thought about doing something to me. Would walk him to a conference Room and have a conversation about it.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

It's a big picture.

[D]

He would have.

[A]

Mark, don't politicize. Yo, yo. Just with everybody. El here started getting money. Here come Mark. Y Ashanti. Earth. Earth's funeral.

[E]

What about it?

[A]

Well, that's the top. Ashanti didn't. Apparently didn't attend Irv's funeral.

[D]

Yeah. Chris Gotti mentioned it during his Breakfast Club interview. And it's an. It's an interesting thing to think about. Like, if you have a. A strong loving relationship that's rocky and maybe ends poorly, do you owe it to the person or the family to show up? That was his argument that you kind of do.

[A]

No, you don't.

[E]

No, you don't.

[F]

I think it's more about your mate. What does your mate say? Like, was she married?

[D]

Oh, that's interesting.

[E]

She could be single. I don't owe it to you to do anything. And the way that y' all have behaved, like post baby for her and post her getting with Nepal. And you keep. Rest in peace, Irv. But you kept my name in your mouth every five seconds, and it wasn't good. I don't have, like. I want to move on from. I want to close that chapter of my life completely. And that could mean I'm not going to the funeral. I don't want to be around people there. I don't want any extra attention. I don't want nobody to take a picture. And now I'm going to make this a thing. And now the Internet's running where I am protecting my peace and my family, and I'm staying the away from that. And I think she's well within her right to do so. I wish they stopped saying I said this before. I wish Irv's brother Chris stop saying Ashanti's name. Leave her alone. She's done with y'.

[A]

All.

[F]

I heard that they had a really close personal relationship as well, and that's the tough part.

[E]

Cannot be close after a while because.

[F]

Of your brother, too.

[D]

Yeah, but what if they are still close, right? Do you. Do you owe it to that person? Like, hey, my brother just died. I need you there for me. I expect you to be there for me. I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm just asking.

[E]

I don't think you owe it to him, but. Or it could be a conversation. Yo, dog, I would have showed up, but I have my reasons.

[C]

I think that if you do that, you should maybe do that privately as opposed to going on broadcast, social media.

[E]

And doing what your brother Was doing.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

When he passed. Right? When he passed. She was with Nelly, Correct? Yes. In my experience, I've seen men, like, I'm not gonna say not allow you, but like, like, well, y', all, if you. If your lady that you with right now, her ex passed away and that was crying every day for four days, would it bother you? Honestly, cuz I've seen men where it's.

[D]

Like, four days is a little. Four is a lot.

[F]

I'm just saying because I.

[A]

Is a lot.

[D]

That's the limit.

[A]

That's the line.

[D]

That's the line. That's the line.

[F]

Let me let y' all hear.

[A]

Is y' all talking about three days?

[F]

If she squir for three days, does it bother you? Honestly?

[E]

How long.

[B]

How.

[E]

How long were they together? What's the nature of that relationship?

[F]

When y'. All. When y' all do this, it makes my head pop off. Let's say they were together for all this matters.

[E]

That's why I'm asking.

[F]

Let's say they were together for a few years right after that relationship. It was a relationship with you. They had a. Okay relationship. Ups and downs, but it was okay. But they were most definitely in love for years.

[E]

How about be sad. Be sad a couple days?

[F]

Yeah, okay.

[E]

That's human.

[A]

A long time. Time to be in the bathroom.

[F]

Yeah. I mean, in my personal experience, I've seen men get pissed about a woman grieving her ex. I've seen people beef about a woman grieving her ex or going to his funeral. His janaz. I've seen that. In real life, you can cry. So I feel like can say it was cool for her to go to that funeral. Cuz when she goes to the funeral, like you said, to your point, it makes the news when she goes to the funeral.

[E]

Unless he goes within the cycle.

[F]

Again, true, but if he don't want you to go, I'm not even going. Cuz you're not allowed to go.

[A]

Seen both. I've seen where the nigga don't want you to go, and I've seen where the nigga's going to support you. And when the pictures are taken, it looks the way it's supposed to look. If Nelly wants to go to Irv's funeral, then nobody makes the big deal about Ashanti being there or not. Right?

[D]

But that takes a big person, particularly given how he was talking about her. That situation, the documentary, all that stuff. I can see if you've made my lady that upset.

[E]

We're not going. We're not going.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not to going going.

[A]

I also made your lady that lady.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Okay, I'm with you. So y' all don't have to rebut. Okay, I'm with you.

[E]

You did though. Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Yeah, it's. Listen funerals. Some people are just not funeral people. Before we even get into all that people. Some people just don't do funerals. Yep.

[B]

I'm one of them.

[F]

Me too.

[A]

Some people be having pre other things booked when you. When you that you died. And the worst I got a head over. I got a.

[F]

Some people got bookings.

[A]

Some people. Some people got bookings and you died. Oh and your stupid family had it on a Saturday. Sorry I miss playoffs funeral.

[F]

I was booked at AC like what the hell yo.

[A]

We since it's us in here we can tell the truth. Now whether you go to the funeral depends on just how soon the family get it together. Sometimes the first thing you say or the second thing you say when somebody die or to think at least is okay. When is the service? If it's this weekend, I'm in there. But if it prolongs and we gotta wait for the gofundme. I seen some niggas die and they funeral wasn't there a month and a half later the gofundme had to hit. Hey, I'm cool. If it was instantaneous, I'd have been there. My brother brother. The next month is like we got to.

[E]

If y' all had to wait that long that kind of tell me what type of service is about to be too facts.

[A]

I'm. I'm still not over my family. Oh never mind.

[F]

I got turned away at a funeral before and it was rescheduled cuz they didn't have that final payment that morning all at the church on Lehi. He was all there and they sent us home.

[A]

It was horrible.

[D]

That's just where what happened too don't.

[A]

Say no more Philly addresses up here is what you were saying.

[D]

He still about that 13 locust thing.

[B]

What happened with your family? What your family did?

[A]

I don't know. I don't even. I don't think I could talk about it. But somebody died and we all was coming out cuz family. This one was no but it was important family got it. It's not like this was the whole family is coming out to this family. And it was a smaller venue. It was a smaller funeral home. So most of the family had to stand up in the back.

[B]

Oh, you talked about overflow.

[A]

Whoever planned this. Hey. But I was back There saying now y' all knew we were showing up for on such and such. Got it. Got it. So now I'm back there tippy toeing to see. I'm seeing my cousins brought their boyfriend. My mom bought a boyfriend. I'm standing in the back like hold up a second.

[F]

Too many plus ones.

[A]

Hold up. There's a lot of people sitting comfortably in my aunt funeral. But anyway, later I learned that somebody in the family owned the funeral home. Like I said. Oh, it did happen fast.

[D]

That's nasty.

[A]

Hey, is it? She died that month. Funeral fly was the next hour. Like God damn.

[D]

Anyway, is there anybody whose funeral people would expect you to go to but y' all absolutely wouldn't go to?

[A]

Yeah, I don't have nobody that I absolutely would not. Absolutely is harsh.

[D]

That's a strong word. Or that you probably wouldn't go to.

[A]

I had.

[E]

But no, we squashed it.

[D]

Squashed it.

[A]

Yeah. I don't.

[C]

I don't care no beefs like that.

[F]

I do.

[A]

I don't feel like all beefs should kind of be tabled when. When death happens. I feel like I've said that before.

[E]

Depends.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

No, it depends.

[F]

Why?

[E]

Depending on what the beef is. Yeah, I'm still here.

[B]

You not.

[A]

And.

[E]

And now you going and you go over there. I'm done. It ain't.

[A]

I'm still here.

[F]

Listen, people hold on to relationships for no reason. I'm not going to hang my sister. My sister still. I'm sorry. I'm not going to. If your sister steals from you and your boyfriend and treat you bad, that's not your sister. You have a relationship with a woman that treats you like a sister. Y' all treat each other like sisters. That's your sister. A lot of times. Cuz when you ask something like that, the first thing I think is a family member, a grandmama. You know what I mean? People like that. It's people in my life that some of y' all probably be shocked about. Like I'mma shock you right now. I wouldn't go to my grandmother's funeral. I don't with my grandmother. She's not a good person. And. And it's like.

[E]

So we saying the same thing.

[F]

Yeah. Like I it. Listen, it's. No. Why the is the beef squash? Because you left and I'm here.

[B]

Yeah, I'm still here.

[F]

I don't.

[E]

And it ain't got to be with you.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

It's not beef.

[F]

I don't. With you.

[E]

I'm forgiving you. I just don't with you. That could happen.

[D]

Would you feel phony going to like.

[E]

Your grandmother's funeral or whoever your person at that time? Yeah, I would have felt phony. Would you feel like I'm going for the wrong reasons? I'm going for other people? I'm going just so that y' all could say, yo, he was here.

[C]

Sometimes the funerals are for, by the way.

[F]

That's. That's really what it's for to me.

[D]

Yeah. Which I think was. Chris got his point.

[F]

Yeah. I don't, I. And also I don't do funerals anyway. You know, like religiously you're supposed to go to people gymnastics or, you know, if you're in the area or whatever. But I don't like them. And then the peers that I had and the life I live, people died a lot. So it was like, I'm not going to do this whole. Because I think at a certain point people glorify so much, it's almost they like, they like it. You go to somebody page and it be all these rips in their bios. Like some people kind of like the whole grief, the attention you get. You know, people post, oh, oh my God, don't ask yet. Just pray for my family. And then next.

[E]

Knowing everybody's gonna ask.

[F]

Yeah, like that kind of. A lot of people kind of get something out of it with the balloon releases and even with the whole thing of now. Because when we were younger, I don't remember celebrating people's death date and their birthday now celebrate the death date, the.

[C]

Birthday at the cemetery.

[F]

Like, what the is that?

[B]

You don't think that. Because if it wasn't for grandma, you wouldn't be here. So you don't think that if grandma passes away that you should. Whatever good person you think she's not, just put that aside because that's still Grandma, right?

[F]

Nah, nah. I don't fuck with her. At the end of the day, I don't fuck with her. She causes way more trouble than anything. Like, my grandmother's messy. She a troublemaker.

[A]

Like, all grandmas are messy.

[F]

True. But my grandmother is like super messy.

[D]

Like, I feel what you said, like some people are bad people and some of those bad people have to. To have kids.

[F]

Exactly.

[D]

And grandkids.

[F]

Exactly. And she had children young. And another thing is when you, when you sometimes when you like get stuck, you don't mature past that age. So you'll just be a 60 year old, 17 year old. And that's really the vibe. She, like a younger she, oh, wait, Grandma in the 60s, 70s.

[E]

Grandma.

[A]

I don't talk to her.

[F]

I don't know how. How old she is. I don't. I don't deal with her. But she.

[D]

I'm a grandparent, like grandparents.

[F]

My grandmother has called the police on me, filed a false report. My grandmother got in trouble for that. The cop was like, yo, you could have got her shot. She told them that I was breaking in her house. I was like, sitting on the steps.

[A]

But were you?

[F]

No, I was sitting on the steps.

[A]

But for real.

[F]

No, for real.

[A]

Tell the truth. The truth. You done admitted to mad crime.

[F]

No, I wasn't. I wasn't. She lied. She really made it up. She wanted them. What she said is that black people don't. They don't come. The police don't come when you call them. So you have to say something drastic. So she called, but she called 911 probably like 12 times with different things. I'm a white woman. Somebody breaking my house. Somebody just pulled a knife on me.

[A]

Well, your grandma's white.

[F]

No, but she was making it. She's.

[E]

Because they only saying that you say certain things, right? They're gonna come.

[F]

But the cops whole thing was like, yo, we could have came guns out. We could have shot her if she moved or whatever. Thinking she doing. She up to something. Like, she literally got chastised in front of me. And I was young. I was like 19. But that's what I'm saying. This has been a constant thing with her. And now I had children. So now you're doing a little to my kids. Like, it's just too much.

[D]

So you're not going to. I can see why. In that case, you're not going to. I don't think you owe nobody a funeral visit. He did.

[A]

Yo, ain't gonna lie.

[F]

I don't care.

[A]

I don't agree with respect if I'm a grandparent and I'm on. But you cool. I might wait till you have kids and get my off on them little. And then, you know, if I ain't all the way with you and you lead them kids over here and then.

[E]

That'S when a person can cut you off.

[F]

Yeah, y' all wrong.

[E]

Because you're right.

[A]

Y' all wrong cutting off grandparents.

[E]

No, I wouldn't.

[A]

All they wanted, they little briars, they little ice cream.

[E]

I could never come.

[A]

They see me with a little judge.

[F]

Shows, girl, no one no ice cream. I grandma with a cash app or apple pay.

[D]

So you think about them old school. Yeah, like traditional grandparents.

[A]

Well, I haven't had a Grandmother.

[F]

My grandma.

[A]

My grandma long time.

[F]

If somebody told me my grandmother got in a fight yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised. Like my grandmother was still mixed. I seen my grandma fight somebody before.

[A]

Where she live? At Philly.

[F]

She live in North Philly?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yes, at North.

[A]

That's the thing.

[F]

It's a nice neighborhood though.

[A]

Good gated community. Philly got gated communities. You have gates?

[D]

Not really.

[F]

Shut up. You know, do we have gates? Is crazy. Just walk out, Mark. Just walk out.

[D]

I feel like we should.

[A]

Why don't have gated community?

[D]

Said jail.

[A]

God damn, that was good.

[E]

My bad.

[A]

What else needs our attention? What else needs or doesn't need?

[D]

Do y' all care that Reading Rainbow's coming back?

[A]

Yeah, actually reading her.

[F]

It depends. Wait, who's the host?

[A]

Is Lavar there?

[D]

Lavar is not the host.

[A]

I'm gonna kill Mar.

[F]

Impossible.

[D]

Levar is not the host, unfortunately. I don't know if they asked him. It's a younger guy. I didn't memorize his name during the break. It was on my phone. But he is a younger guy. Look to either be biracial, light skinned like a very different aesthetic than Lavar Burton.

[F]

They went light skinned.

[D]

Yeah, they definitely went light skinned some. And he shut up. He and I don't know if the theme song is. That's the thing for me. I care about the theme song.

[E]

Theme song better be the same.

[D]

I don't know if lyrics word I.

[F]

Something they going to put it on a drill beat.

[E]

Oh, that be hard.

[D]

That might be hard.

[A]

Reading Rainbow should have been back years ago.

[D]

Yeah, I know. They tried it and they got canceled.

[F]

All these children left behind need that.

[A]

These kids can't read for and adults and me.

[B]

Butterfly in the sky.

[F]

The kids don't write incursive or nothing Cursive.

[E]

They don't write.

[F]

They don't get homework either.

[A]

Look.

[E]

Yes, the hell they do. Mine do.

[A]

My son don't get homework now one.

[D]

Day homework is overrated.

[F]

Never got gets homework ever. And they never have school. They never have school.

[A]

And by the time my son go get his book bag and show me what the homework is, I'm busy trying to do something. So I just do it real quick. I'm like, all right, he do it for him.

[D]

I mean, how's he doing it? What kind of grades he getting?

[E]

Right his hand right in the past.

[A]

Wait, all right, wait, hold up, cuz. I know we pretentious up here. I'm the only one that ever did their kids.

[F]

Homeboy.

[D]

Thank God I wasn't Judging. I was curious to know how, like you, you always get it right.

[A]

Wait, they change. Changed the multiplication. They changed the division. It's some I didn't understand.

[D]

Oh, once we got the sixth grade math, I had to start backing up.

[E]

Once we got chat GPT and you take a picture of the homework and say, answer this from the perspective of whatever age your child is. It will break that down just like the kid did.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

That's too. That defeats the purpose.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm doing my kid homework. We back on the iPad.

[D]

Y' all crazy.

[F]

I respect it.

[A]

Nepotism.

[F]

I like how he asked the room, but I never did it like, I've never done.

[D]

Me neither.

[F]

Oh, you have.

[D]

How'd that work out?

[A]

I did that last year. Good.

[F]

What was the grade?

[B]

90 cat.

[D]

Wait, my daughter.

[A]

Wait.

[D]

Elementary school.

[F]

No, cat, not a 90. We're not even gonna do that. You ain't getting 90s yourself. Stop.

[D]

How you doing? Y' all stepping on my head.

[F]

But you didn't get on 90. I'm sorry.

[A]

Disrespectful.

[D]

No, I got winded.

[B]

I got. I got both. I got. I got. I got oatmeal pie. Listen, I. Yes. To be honest, besides the act up here, you know, when it comes to work, Mathematics, Language arts, I'm pretty good at it.

[F]

Language arts is funny.

[D]

When did you start?

[B]

8Th grade.

[D]

8Th grade language arts.

[B]

Mom, I'll fry you up again.

[D]

I don't want to get fried up good.

[F]

Like. Did you get good grades in school?

[D]

He went to a special school.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't go to a special school. You told us you went to high school. I've been to 11 schools. I said with special help. No, I did not. Wait, stop.

[D]

They were in the trailer. Yeah, he definitely.

[F]

How many kids was in your class?

[B]

Listen.

[D]

Seven.

[B]

I never had. I got it.

[D]

You got to remember, you can't fit as many.

[B]

While it helps. You gotta remember these people because. Because my aura is so magnificent, they gotta try to play with my intellect. So let them do it. Let them finish.

[A]

There's no. Wait, wait, wait.

[C]

That's not an attack on it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

By saying that I was in. I had an IEP or I was in IEP program. Yes, it is.

[D]

No, it's not.

[A]

Wait, you knowing the correct term don't help your. Listen.

[B]

I've been to 11 schools, but when I gave 11, he was so.

[D]

Smart, they just kept putting him in the new.

[B]

No, no.

[E]

You're gonna try third grade here.

[F]

Why did you go to 11?

[B]

Went to a special program like he went to Court.

[D]

Cult school.

[B]

What?

[F]

What?

[B]

Why did you.

[F]

Why did you.

[A]

My behavior.

[B]

I gave a lot of trouble.

[F]

Did you go to any alternative schools?

[B]

Two.

[F]

I did, too.

[B]

I went to satellite.

[F]

And another one, I went to New Beginnings.

[B]

I went to. I went to Manhattan Comprehensive. Hold on.

[A]

Listen.

[F]

And I got in and out. And I only went once.

[B]

I got accepted to Murray Bertram. That's my first school.

[D]

I don't know these places.

[B]

Murray Bertram. Murray Bertram is a school. Right, Right.

[D]

Queen's Good School.

[B]

No. Is in Manhattan. It was a good school at the time I went to.

[F]

Right, baby?

[A]

But we don't know.

[D]

This a national broadcast.

[B]

You don't know Murray.

[D]

I don't.

[B]

It's a smart man. You know who Murray ber. He was a president.

[F]

No.

[D]

Was the president.

[B]

Was he the president? What? He said this said Murray Bur was the president. He wasn't. The president of what, Murray? Of America.

[E]

Which one?

[B]

Who was Murray ber. No, let him go.

[F]

That.

[D]

Murray ber was not president of the United States.

[B]

No, I didn't say he was president.

[D]

You said he was president.

[B]

President or what did you get?

[A]

Neighborhood watch president.

[B]

Just like a simple white girl coming in between black folks in division. Who was the president? Who. Who was Murray ber?

[F]

Mark, he wasn't the president of the United States.

[B]

I know. I didn't say that.

[D]

I'm unfamiliar with him. I just know. But I am familiar with the presidents of the United States. And he wasn't one of them when you went there. You still don't know who he is? You Googling it now?

[B]

No phones.

[A]

No.

[D]

No phones.

[E]

No phones.

[A]

Jack Chump's. What the. This is not what I click.

[B]

Who the hell. It's cool.

[D]

It's cool. Yeah. As you can see, yes, he went to very prestigious schools.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, don't play.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I was right. You stop this.

[F]

He's the president.

[B]

No, not that. No. Mary Bertram, a former president of the New York City Board of Education. I knew what the. I was talking about you. Yeah, You The New York Board of Education. So I wasn't wrong.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

All right. You got it.

[D]

You got to do background checks, boss.

[F]

Siege is school. And they decided to name it after the president of the Board of Education.

[B]

It was Mary Bertram School of Business. But at the nominal school of business.

[D]

Oh, you know, like, how do you use. How do you use the register?

[A]

You guys, you nailed it.

[B]

That's where they gonna get mad at you.

[A]

We did it.

[F]

We did it.

[D]

All right, y'. All.

[A]

We did it. We did it.

[B]

No, we not done. Sit the fuck down. We not done, girl.

[D]

We did it. Do y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

Oh, sorry.

[A]

Go ahead.

[D]

Did y' all ever get the feeling, like, where you talk about something, that we're alone.

[B]

Mark. Another day is gone.

[A]

He gonna be a singer.

[B]

Oh, you want to jump on your man ass, Nick? You won't jump on your man's side, right? Huh? Huh?

[A]

Sing it. Say. Wait, wait. What's your real name? Sing it, Trevor. Sing it, Trevor. Hey, sing. No, I'm not with.

[B]

Him.

[D]

Just. I would. This is my conspiracy question for y', all, right? Because.

[E]

What's up?

[D]

You know, like, you talk about something, and you. You immediately go to the Internet, and the thing you just talked about pops up. Pops up, and we all think that we're being bugged or conspiracy. What? The head of Instagram came out yesterday.

[B]

Hell, he did. No, he didn't.

[D]

He said the opposite. He said it's all in your head. He said either you looked at it ahead of time and you forgot.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Or it's the algorithm thing and it's connected. Or it's a total coincidence.

[B]

He said you would see the light. He said if the mic was on. You'll see the light right above on your phone. A green light to show you that it's on.

[E]

It's the second one.

[F]

I don't know if there is the.

[E]

Algorithm that is so sharp to where it can pinpoint what you. What you're doing, what you think.

[F]

Let me ask you. This is the same thing. You ever go to the grocery store, right? And then you open up your app and they suggest you to follow the person that you saw in the grocery store. Has that ever happened to you?

[B]

No. That's some jail. That's. That's Bumblebee.

[F]

That happens a lot.

[B]

That's bumble.

[F]

What I'm saying to you.

[B]

I listen to your jokes, too.

[F]

Face back. Okay.

[B]

Some of them is nice.

[F]

We. We. Listen. We are getting along today.

[B]

I. I don't. With you right now.

[F]

Yeah. You don't want to get back in that spot.

[B]

I do.

[F]

You don't want to get back in that front.

[B]

Fix the mic, boy.

[F]

Okay, listen.

[A]

Excuse me, Mary Bell.

[F]

Oh, I think it's a lie. I don't think it's the algorithm. There's no way. It's been times I had phone conversations, and they suggest what to buy. It's no way. I don't know if it's a microphone, but it's something.

[B]

She's right.

[F]

No way.

[B]

It's some he did. He was lying. When I was listening, he was lying.

[F]

He lying. Why would he tell us that?

[D]

I feel a predictive thing. But sometime it be like we can literally be talking about like tacos. Like and I ain't thought about tacos in two years. And then I go to Instagram and I see a taco.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not rolling with algorithm that is listening to something and it definitely goes through your photos.

[E]

Of course.

[C]

That's no question.

[E]

And the thing you said about it suggests you follow the person. That's just because they got location on you got location on y' all next to each other. All that is all.

[F]

So that's not creepy. It's like everything is trap. Everything you do is your locations is on. So that makes sense. Cuz I think some of these apps, that was the whole point they want us to. Because they just did that to Instagram where you can have location on. Cuz the idea is you're going to meet and hang out. I'm guessing I see something like that and the first thing I think is somebody's going to rob me me or something like I turned it off. Cuz you can put your location on Instagram now. They can see where you at in the map. Like Snapchat. You could pull up Snapchat. A lot of you don't even know that.

[B]

Yeah, we got it both.

[F]

You could pull up Snapchat, zoom in and see exactly what restaurant sitting in. That's scary.

[B]

You right?

[A]

It is.

[F]

What?

[A]

That is pretty scary.

[F]

They flipped his be off and I was looking for him and I knew that he was.

[B]

Why you got to start if you're not going to stop, baby?

[F]

And he was at McDonald's in Queens enjoying a Big Mac with extra sauce, extra sauce on the side for his fries. And I just ran down on him and popped up in the back. Punch him all in.

[B]

It's very dangerous.

[A]

Mona is a hood this bit. That's why I stopped going to the hood.

[B]

Just notice these.

[D]

As we sit here.

[A]

I have quick hits for y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

I do have quick hits for y'. All.

[E]

What's up?

[A]

And I do have a a part of the show. But before we go any further, we made it this far without saying go Yankees. Is wrong with you. The is wrong with you in here. The is wrong with y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

We're from Phillies. Talking this long. Phillies doing great.

[D]

We had a first round bag.

[A]

Phillies have the Dodgers tonight.

[D]

Yeah. I ain't going to lie. I'm scared of the Dodgers.

[A]

Good series.

[D]

It's Very good.

[A]

It's a really, really good series in baseball. I don't know if people are people. People don't be with baseball. But that Phillies Dodgers series, that's a series.

[C]

I'll probably start watching this round. Yeah, this is about the time where I can watch baseball.

[D]

This is.

[A]

Yeah, this is the time for casuals.

[C]

Yeah, it's too much season for me.

[D]

I watch, I try to watch 100 Phillies, I try to watch 100 games. I can't watch 162s. There's no time. But like I try to get a vibe so I know how good we are. Losing the ace in the middle and halfway through the season it was tough for us. So I'm extra scared of the Dodgers right now because if we. If you have an ace in a seven game series or two aces in a seven game series, I like my chances. One ace and some B level pitchers is tougher. But the Yankees, the way y' all.

[A]

Handled Boston dog, that was a really exciting game. Yo, it made me. I'm still sad that the Mets didn't make the playoffs. Cause I know what that New York energy is like when both teams are there. But that game three was a game that you wish you could have been at. I wish I would have bought my father tickets to that game. Last time we were here on Friday, the Yankees lost. Okay, best of three, Old school. NBA rules. Best of three one, the next one. And then game three, we sent a rookie pitcher out there, Shitler. We having a blast with this guy's name. And he had one of the best performances that Yankee fans have ever seen. Never been done before.

[D]

He's a name now 10 Shitler. I say he's a. He's a name now.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Nobody gonna forget him.

[A]

And a great name for all that marketing. I saw all the people. Oh, Shitler. And just playing around. But I think he had 10k. This game was over in the fourth, bro.

[E]

That said. Cuz I saw. I don't watch baseball, but I did. They had the screen on the barber shop that said the Red Sox ain't make it to third base game.

[A]

No, I ain't.

[D]

That's crazy. It was a Molly Whopper.

[E]

That's a ass whooping.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

No, the pitcher was dominant. The Red Sox pitcher, not so much. And. And it was a win in a fashion that Yankees fans are not. It was like old Tampa Bay. Like they got that double, then the singles to follow. Like getting the right hits at the right time. The Yankees never been like that. It's been Short field. Let's home run this out of here. But they was playing a different type of baseball, and with the pitcher doing that, Yankees fans was lit. That whole game, it was never. There was never worry. Got it? It was never worry. That game was over in the fourth.

[E]

They jumped on their ass earlier.

[A]

That game was over in the four before homeboy came and pulled that picture out of there. I was five minutes. I was like, oh, he's getting out of here early. Did they lighten this boy up? They had the bases loaded, scored, put two men. Put two men on the base right after that. Like, just.

[D]

It was.

[A]

It was. The fourth was bad. It was bad. Go Yankees. It'll be much more difficult now.

[E]

Who y' all got?

[A]

Now we have Toronto.

[E]

That a good matchup or Toronto?

[A]

Toronto ended the season cold. The Yankees ended the season.

[D]

Toronto's very beatable.

[A]

Toronto typically has the Yankees number in regular season. This is the first time I want to say that they're playing in the postseason.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

I think Toronto's. Like you said, I think Toronto ended the season in a position where y' all could beat them. I. Yeah. And I was. I was not big. I've been talking shit about Yankees. Halfway joking, but, like, I. I wasn't big on y' all for most of the season. It just seemed like this was a down year. But y' all got a chance to make a run.

[A]

They're beatable. Yeah, they're beatable. I don't want to say that and jinx shit, but I feel like we got a good chance, especially if homeboy is pitching like that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, homeboy is pitching like that. We got. We got three pitchers, and baseball is always going to be pitching. The Yankees demise will be the bullpen. Okay, so we'll see what that looks like. But the city still lives. Go, Yankees. Go, Yankees.

[B]

The city still lives.

[A]

Go, Yankees. Congratulations. Shout out to Yankee fans. I'm not going, but if they do what they got to do, I'll send my dad.

[D]

Yeah, I'm definitely hitting Phillies, Dodgers. And if we make it out this one, I'll do Phillies, Brewers. I'm assuming Milwaukee's gonna win, too. And if it.

[A]

That's a Philly Dodgers game, though, that series.

[D]

And the two most obnoxious baseball fan bases is still alive.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's saying something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that those games are gonna be crazy. And if. And we got to make a bet, if it comes to Phillies, Yankees.

[A]

Oh, I'm down. I'm down. The Philly's real Good, though. Yeah, the Phillies are real good.

[F]

But y' all do friendly man bets or y' all be betting some money?

[D]

We bet money. Not like stupid money, but enough.

[F]

I'm betting too.

[A]

I'm betting we bet money, but it's. It's, it's friendly but don't feel no way. It's between rich.

[F]

I like that.

[A]

Yeah, it's between rich.

[F]

I like that.

[A]

What else? What else?

[E]

What else?

[A]

I had. I had more questions I wanted to ask y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

One was in sports. Give me a second. Give me a second. Give me a second.

[E]

We here Dog bomb.

[A]

Puka.

[C]

Yeah, that was a great game last night.

[A]

The other night, but.

[C]

Yeah, oh yeah, two nights ago.

[A]

My bad the other night. And he. And, and. But I wrote him down. Cuz. The Colts cornerback retired after. After.

[C]

Don't do that. Do not do that. The Dolphins cornerback retired.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

He played for the Colts for four games, had five Pro bowl or All Pro seasons with the Dolphins. 29 interceptions or some. Xavier Howard.

[A]

Salute Xavier Howard.

[C]

Great, great career, man.

[A]

Great career. I think Puka is the best receiver in NFL. And I had that talk with Kee when it was fantasy draft time and I had the seventh pick and Justin Jefferson was sitting there like, Puka is the best receiver in the NFL. NFL?

[C]

I don't think so. I think that Matt Stafford is propping that up. I think Puka is great.

[A]

I think people are afraid to put Puka's name in that conversation because we're used to the same names. But if you watching Puka, he's doing things that you don't see the other people do.

[C]

That's true. He does. He does do a lot of blocking. He does play outside. He plays inside. He does a lot. He does a lot of different. He's great.

[A]

We hear a lot of St. Brown from the Lions and we don't hear enough about Puka. Okay, if you want to chase Jefferson me, cool. But I think there's an argument there right after that, it's Puka time. And I don't hear it enough. I don't hear it enough. So I wrote it down.

[E]

I don't hear.

[C]

I'm not all the way mad at that.

[E]

I'm not mad. I don't hear it at all. I don't.

[A]

I wouldn't put him there. He's on pace for something stupid. He's on pace for something like 2300 receiving yards. He's the only person through four games with 500, 500 receiving yards and 46 receptions.

[C]

Matty Stafford still Looks great out there. He was throwing.

[A]

That's why it was all over the place, because that's when the Matt Stafford injured. Yeah. Yeah. Here's my question for you guys. I saw Mickey Fax tweet this. Add. I saw Mickey Facts tweet this. It's not of any importance, but it was interesting to me, so I wanted to say it to y'. All. Mickey Facts says that rappers should go back to shouting out the year in songs.

[D]

I was cracking it with us. I need that.

[A]

And then somebody said to him, well, no, because that dates the song. And then he said, every song with the year in it is still being played.

[C]

Yeah, that's bad.

[A]

I thought that was a pretty good discussion.

[C]

It depends on how you do it. I think if you just say it at, like, the beginning of a song, it can be weird, especially if the song. What if you record it in November? Like, it gets weird because that ain't coming out till March.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You gotta say cash money taking over the nine.

[E]

Nine, Right.

[C]

Cover your bases.

[E]

The other problem is music ain't like, if they start this shit today, the music ain't lasting. So like, even the record that you do, if you talk about if it was recorded in November.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And it was a song that actually lasted.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Ain't nobody gonna. The year. Whether you say it was 20, 24, 20, 25, seven years from now, when it's playing, nobody gives a fucking.

[C]

That's true. That's true.

[D]

Yeah. You got me. Think 86. I'm just thinking about some of the classics that. That mention years. I'm sure there's some duds that mention years we just don't remember they didn't last.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

The music ain't lasting.

[D]

But there. I mean, Rakim. I mean, there's some big ones.

[A]

There's a bunch of songs with the year in it that are classics and it's still played. And when it come on, you're going to say the year, no matter what.

[E]

The year, because of the. I. I get what y' all are saying, but that's the year don't make the song classic. It's a classic song. That's what I'm talking about. So the classic song is gonna get played regardless. The year being in is just a dope mention. It ain't a lot of classic music being made today. So adding the year ain't gonna necessarily make that last. So when you play, it ain't gonna be played years down the line anyway.

[A]

I understand your point. I Just think it's premature to determine a classic. You need time. So we can't say right now what will make it and what won't. Right.

[E]

But with the.

[A]

We could assume. We.

[E]

We can assume. What's the last. In the last, let's say five, no, 10 years. How many classic songs 10 years ago? How many songs we still playing today? Let's make it easy.

[C]

There's a bunch.

[A]

There's a lot from 10 years of 2016 is one of the best hip hop years ever. Now, I. I want to advance you and let's do 15 because my memory is cloudy right now. If you do the last 15 years.

[E]

2000, 2010 to now, there's plenty of.

[A]

Classics where you wanted them to say, okay, the year just in a cool way.

[E]

But that was my point, that the classics that are being played from 2010 to now are still classics. The year don't matter.

[C]

Saying the year.

[E]

Saying the year didn't.

[A]

No, no, we're not saying it matter. He's just saying that that was flying.

[D]

Yeah, Mickey wasn't saying that.

[A]

He's saying that was some fly used to do, right?

[E]

Okay, okay.

[A]

I thought he was saying, like, it helps it like 96 and forever. Like, just as a part of your ad libs where we as fans could be like, he ain't saying it was important. I just thought it was an interesting. It is interesting topic that nobody would ever talk about.

[C]

There's a lot of people that don't do it fly, though. They'll just come on be like, yo, some 2025.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You just purposely tried to do that. That corny. And this is why I agree with him a little bit.

[C]

Tell me.

[A]

Because if there was ever a way to like, 2025 is a dope year to say it is. It is like, he just say that corny. And it wasn't that bad. Hey, you still rapping 2025. I'm getting a 25 in there that.

[E]

I say 25 on the record that year work. Cuz Drake yelled out I'm looking for revenge all summer. 16. And that made the song that was fire. That's a sign. That's a time when that made the 16. Yeah, 16. We know 16 was 16. But that made the song that was fire.

[A]

Mickey Facts. That was a real good point. It. It would take a rapper brain to even come up with that. You just came up with. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. It's the end of my list. Don't worry. I Ain't holding y' all yet, Puff. No updates on Puff. No updates on Puff?

[C]

I don't think so.

[A]

Joey Badass cancels his tour as Absol was supposed to be on that tour. Speaking of Absol, has anyone heard the freestyle? The correct freestyle that he blundered on costing that shit.

[D]

But that's what you suggested he should do. I didn't even heard it, actually.

[A]

It's out.

[D]

Oh, that's dope. Oh, glad he did that.

[A]

Did anybody hear it?

[B]

No.

[D]

No.

[A]

Oh, okay. And that is exactly what I am here for. Oh, I was supposed to call Absol.

[E]

The other says the court is now taking a 10 minute break and we it reconvenes. Combs is set to address the judge.

[C]

No, he already did that. Yeah, that was.

[E]

Oh, well, yeah, that's. That's. Yeah. Oh, 31. Okay.

[D]

Exclusive. Ladies and gentlemen.

[A]

Ashley, let me play this a little bit.

[C]

Quick Quote a judge. Significant sentence is required to deter you. Say you're sorry and you won't do it again. So we shall see.

[A]

It's gonna be what?

[B]

Say it again.

[A]

He.

[C]

He's. This is a tweet thread, so it's kind of hard to keep track of everything, but he's saying that a strong sentence is needed for him to learn his lesson, essentially.

[F]

The judge said that?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[D]

I'm trying to tell you, they're giving him some time.

[F]

Really?

[D]

I think they're gonna go by the guideline at this point. 60 months, 72 months, something like that.

[A]

Yeah. Nothing suspended the way I thought that.

[D]

Until the judge started talking today. The judge seems. I haven't. I didn't hear it. I'm only reading the verbates, the transcripts, but it sounds.

[C]

Last tweet in this thread, the court reaches a few conclusions. 135 months would be more than necessary.

[F]

What?

[D]

Right.

[A]

Let's talk about it. But I'll get to this Absol freestyle after this. What do y' all think about the gray area? Area? Gray area in the language being used, the judge is saying that acquitted behavior can still be considered when sentencing. So the people that are on one side are like, hey, that's not fair. That's not right. Shouldn't do that. I was acquitted. I'm not on trial for none of that stuff the judge is saying. I can indeed consider that.

[D]

Well, I was one of the people saying you shouldn't hold people accountable for things they were found not guilty for. And I do. That does scare me as a legal precedent. Again, we always have to say this. It's not because I defend Diddy. It's not cause I have any soft feelings for Diddy in terms of his actions or behavior or character. It's just that I don't want to set a standard where you can get acquitted for something and the judge and they can backdoor you and punish you for something you didn't do or something that you were not found liable for. However, the judge legally can do that, or the judge Subramanian cited case law to show that you can do it. So legally you can. But beyond that, when I thought about it more and read more about it, I was like, I mean, there is an argument sometimes you can be found not guilty but still agree to some of the facts of the case. Right? So, for example, I'm just gonna pick one off the top of my head. But let's say I go into. Let's say I go in there. Let's say I agree that I attempted a robbery, Okay? I agree that I went to the bank and they charged me with a bunch of stuff. I get acquitted for a lot of the stuff attached to the rob robbery. Let's say I even get found not guilty of the robbery. But I, in defending myself.

[C]

50 months. 50 months.

[D]

That's what he got.

[C]

50 months.

[D]

There you go.

[F]

How long he been in?

[D]

I ain't got talk.

[A]

He been in for a year.

[D]

A year? It's like 12.

[C]

He said a sentence over 11 years is not reasonable. Even the probation department recommends a sentence less than half of that. But 14 months time served would not be sufficient.

[F]

He got 50 or 60 months.

[C]

55. 0.

[F]

60 is common in the feds. I never hear nobody give.

[D]

60 is what the probation department rec recommended for him.

[F]

60 is common. That's something they give out all day long.

[C]

So four years when One year that he did.

[F]

And then every year you get a certain amount of good time. Federal good times. Like 50 days. Yeah. You get like two months. So you're really only doing 10 months on each fed here. So you got to count it in 10 months. And then he go to the halfway house when he got like 13 months left.

[D]

This prison map is crazy.

[F]

If he got one kid.

[A]

No. And it's a lot. It's a lot of programs. He's already been involved. Program.

[F]

That's not. I mean, it's. It's. That's not that bad. That ain't.

[D]

He probably do another two and a half, three.

[F]

He probably do another two and go to halfway house. Go like a year and a half and go straight to the half House.

[A]

That ain't that bad. Now, I'm certain you get two months off each year.

[D]

Oh, I'm sure he's.

[B]

I'm aware, but it's just. I don't.

[A]

I don't know. How do we think he feels?

[D]

Crushed. I think he expected. I think he expected the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I think he thought he was going to walk out of there.

[C]

Oh, it's 50 more months. That's minus. I don't know why he word it like that. That's minus the 14 months already served.

[D]

Oh, that's more like what?

[C]

Yeah, 60. 60, essentially. 64.

[F]

They gave him 60.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

But the time served, that's a lot.

[D]

For prostitution with his ass.

[F]

Yeah. They are not around with that. Boy.

[A]

That's. That's. That's.

[F]

I never heard no shit like that.

[A]

Huh.

[D]

But again, to. To the point that the judge was making, just to tie it together, there is an argument that even though Diddy was found not guilty of these other things, even in his defense, he. He acknowledged that he did certain things. And I think the judge is saying these are things that. That make you a risk in the court exchanges that I read in the transcripts earlier. Also, the judge disputed Diddy's claims. Like, Diddy said, I was seeking prostitutes for companionship and for their time, not for sex. The judge found that not plausible and said your statements are contradicted by reality. When judges start saying shit like that to you in a courtroom, they're showing some.

[E]

What side they lean into.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[E]

Like I'm not buying the. You selling.

[A]

That's a crock of.

[F]

But why would you say that? Exactly.

[E]

That's a crock of.

[F]

That's dumb.

[A]

Because plenty of that. Prostitutes got up there and said, he. I didn't do nothing with Puff. He was just sitting there watching me.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

[E]

I. They still did something with someone and he purchased the prostitutes. So it's the charge. Ain't saying that you bought them and you. Them.

[A]

I get that. I'm just saying if. I'm saying I was hiring prostitutes for companionship and. And whatever it was, I wasn't fucking them.

[E]

True. But if I paid for the prostitute to fuck somebody, it's the same thing. It's the same thing.

[D]

The judge's bigger point, which goes in response to what you just said and what you just said, is that they're framing this as a victimless crime. The defense and the judge is saying there are plenty of victims, including Cassie and including these prostitutes that I agree with. So But I think their point is, you might not have been using them for sex, but they were used for sex. And so therefore. And I think that's tricky because I actually don't think sex work should be stigmatized and criminalized. But if you begin from the premise that it is, and the judge seems to, because that's kind of their job to. Then you have to say, okay, this was not victimless. Not even the victimless crime the judge seemed to have a particular part of expression contempt for. And I think that hurt Diddy a lot.

[A]

Seems harsh, but, I mean, every step along the way, they gave you something to let you know that that's how they would be considering.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

And it's not as harsh as it could have been.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, it's bad news, but not the worst news for him, for him and his family who were expecting him home soon.

[D]

He gonna be 60 when he comes home? Baby, he might be close to 60 when he comes home. You know, like, that's. You know, that's a big difference than, like, the spring, which was kind of what we were projecting as the best case scenario for him. I don't think nobody but Cory in here, I think, thought he was coming home today. Oh, you did. You. You said today. Some of us were saying, like, the summer, the spring. I thought he'd get a. I thought they were gonna give him the 11, but suspend a lot of it.

[A]

And I definitely thought it would be times. Some of the time served with.

[C]

Oh, it is a little bit. 14 months time served.

[D]

So he basically gave him 60.

[C]

64. 64, 14, time served.

[D]

Right.

[C]

So 50 more from.

[D]

Which is.

[F]

I knew 50 sound weird.

[D]

Yeah. But, you know, the other thing that the prosecution used as a piece of evidence against Puff was. Was they said he had a speaking engagement in Miami set for next week, and they were using that as evidence of his hubris that he not taking this process seriously. Let me be clear. I don't know if Diddy really had a speaking engagement next week in Miami.

[E]

Yeah, that's a fucked up tactic.

[D]

The prosecutor's saying that. Yeah, it's a tactic. I don't know if it's true or not, but it looked really bad.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Even saying to the judge, oh, I was using them for companionship. It's like, why would you even go that route? I don't know why his legal counsel would allow him to say, it's just stupid.

[D]

I mean, I think Diddy might really believe that.

[F]

Oh, well, even if you believe it, your lawyer will say Look, I remember that distinctly from going to court with paid lawyers. Difference from the public defenders, paid lawyers, whole thing was how to win. They ain't give a fuck about what the truth was. Let me tell you how to win. I remember them telling me, like, you look too, like, angry. Like, look a little more meek in there. Like, I'm trying to not come cry in front of him. Like, you looking like you with it, you know? Yeah, we trying to win. So it's like, if you already a black man, you already been exposed to being so freaky or sexually, you know, so it's like, that's the last thing you want to say is, oh, I just wanted to hug them. The last thing I'm a will imagine you doing with any of these people is hugging or chilling or companionship or whatever. That's what I'm saying. That those judges are. They just. They got big, like, little small egos. It's real easy. They feel disrespected by, like, that you lying. It was like, direct disrespect, respect to them versus you trying to save your life. So you had to be super honest, especially about what you do when you have admission and guilt, especially if you trying to plead to something. I did this. I just want to. I want to get a chance to get back into society. I know I did something wrong. That's the whole flow of it.

[D]

Like, you know, it's also important to remember that a lot of these prosecutors, a lot of these judges were prosecutors. So it's possible. I'm just saying it's possible. I don't know. But it's possible that the judge also resents that Diddy didn't get found guilty for more. So a lot of times, the sentencing becomes an inroad around the actual criminal legal system and the criminal process. Like, okay, you were acquitted for these things, so now I'm gonna roof you on the thing. The one thing that we did get you for. And again, I'm not defending Diddy's behavior. It's hard for me to even come up with what's a fair sentence. Cause of how I think about the system itself as an abolitionist. But it's a messy. It's a messy outcome. And I don't know what the right answer is, but the judge's behavior and the judge's words. Words are just very.

[C]

There's also a half a million dollar fine.

[D]

Yes. Half a million dollar fine.

[F]

Damn.

[D]

Yeah, that's.

[F]

They whooped his ass.

[D]

I mean, that's a lot.

[F]

A half a mil. I Thought.

[E]

I'm not talking about the fine part. He said they whooped his ass. I'm just.

[F]

It could have been worse.

[A]

It could have been worse.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

I mean, it could have been worse. But they fumbled, they shit. So, you know, I don't know. I'm like you. Like, I'm not. I'm not defending Diddy. I'm not. You know what I mean? I think a lot. I think what he did was wrong, you know, Like. Like I feel for the victims, all that, but it's just when you, a black person, you just get fucked all the time, it's hard not to look at that.

[B]

You want an appropriate sentence?

[F]

Yes.

[E]

What do you think would have been appropriate?

[F]

That's the thing. Like, the charge is confusing to me. Like, I don't get it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't understand, like, federally how that's that high up. Because the thing in the feds, they have a ranking system. I caught a fake case as the kid. My number was 52. Cause of the amount of drugs I had, right? So I had no felony. So I was facing 10 to life. My CO. Defendant had one felony space in 20 life. If he had three, it had been 30 life. So it's just automatically the guidelines written down for you. Right. But I just don't.

[A]

Nana was right about you. Oh.

[F]

I don't. I don't get it. You know what I mean? It don't make sense how that's a federal case. Like, it just don't make sense to me.

[D]

What's that interstate?

[F]

Is it the state line?

[D]

It's the interstate stuff. Yeah. And there are a lot of sex crimes that the states just don't have provisions for. You know, and so they make them fed. They make them fed. That's what happened to the leader of the cult I was in. It became a fed case because it was traveling across state lines with the kids.

[F]

Right.

[D]

You know what I mean? Not because he. It was all Georgia. Georgia could have prosecuted, but because of the state lines and they made it a fed case. And with Diddy, I think the feds were targeting him anyway. You know what I mean? So I think that was getting another way to get at him.

[F]

Yeah. You think he had a speaking game?

[D]

No, I don't. I. I don't think Diddy wanted to speak anywhere publicly. Yeah. Who says, you know what? When I get out of jail next, I'm going go speak in Miami, who.

[C]

Also is booking him.

[D]

Right. I think that's. I think that. I think that's it would not hold up.

[A]

Now, somebody's booking. Somebody would book.

[E]

If he was walk. If he walked out of there today.

[D]

Somebody would book him an appearance. Appearance is different than. That's a big if. Yeah.

[E]

No, I'm saying. Well, yeah, you book it on a contingent.

[C]

If you were. Okay, if you were a booking agent and someone was facing a very public federal sentencing, you wouldn't be putting down no money to book him for nothing.

[B]

So I put.

[E]

I put a clause in there. And, yeah, I would. I would book that early so I could be the first one.

[D]

But what kind of place books him for a speaking engagement? See, I live. Oh, no. Because I was gonna say it's one thing to say he had a interview. He's going to give his first interview to somebody for X number of dollars. They might be using. Using semantics, technically, that is a speaking engagement. I could see that, but I don't see somebody saying, you know, and now for our keynote.

[C]

Yeah. Come to the university.

[F]

Act like he was speaking at Murray B. Well, where you went.

[D]

That'S a call back.

[A]

Whatever. The.

[D]

President.

[F]

No disrespect to Mary Birch.

[D]

Mary Bertram.

[F]

Bertram.

[D]

Excuse me, President Bertram.

[F]

President Mary Bertram.

[A]

So even if they called it a speaking engagement. And again, we just freestyling right now because we don't know if that was even happening. If they called it a speaking engagement. It wasn't going to be a speaking engagement.

[D]

Right.

[A]

They just calling it that so it could look a certain way.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

And the question.

[D]

Court, right?

[A]

Same with. Like, everybody was talking about, hey, young thug performed at the courthouse. And he did. But the main point was that little speech. They needed that speech. Hey, y', all, crime is bad.

[F]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

Hey, crime in Atlanta. Come on, y'. All. Unity. And how he was doing it, you could tell he was doing the crime. Yo, when don't know how to do the peace talk. Yo, y', all, we gotta come together. That didn't give a.

[E]

Stop, man. Yo, that's like.

[A]

That's exactly. Was he trolling? Freeze.

[E]

Stop.

[A]

Was he trolling?

[E]

Nah, I'm doing what I do. Stay free at this point. But I ain't used to.

[A]

No, we know that, but I'm not. I'm signing. I'm. I'm gonna do that. You want. If I gotta do this to get out, I'm doing it. I'm saying in the act of him doing it.

[E]

I don't think so. I think.

[F]

I think that was him trying his best.

[E]

I don't. I. This ain't me. I'm trying to be something that I'm really not right now. That I got to be.

[A]

That whole. That was dead on for an impersonation. That's what he did. I was like, oh, yo.

[E]

He like, I don't know how to do this.

[A]

Even the crowd, he was like, yo, we got to stop killing each other.

[B]

Like your boy, you just.

[A]

The crowd was like, I don't know about that.

[B]

Yeah, we not with that.

[A]

We not going to stop no killing.

[D]

Man.

[B]

You know what a. He'll give you? No, no, no substance. You got. Just chill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just relax.

[A]

And now young thug is trolling like he's. He's on. He's making an interview run. I think he's trolling. He's on Aiden Ross now talking about I only brush my teeth one time a week.

[F]

He said he got d. He said.

[B]

He no longer got a girlfriend.

[F]

He said he got dumped.

[A]

Well, we knew that.

[F]

Well, well, the poor girl takes so much.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, like. But see, that's the. That's what wrong.

[E]

See, there's a toxic old toxic side of me that heard something totally different. What he said right there.

[A]

Your dad got say when he said.

[F]

The part about him. He has a girlfriend, but she don't have a boyfriend. Yeah, I heard that too. He still go with her, but she don't go with him.

[E]

You know what that means?

[F]

He still.

[A]

He popped.

[F]

He popped yesterday.

[B]

He's chill.

[A]

Free.

[B]

Yeah, you got good guy free. Don't go down that stay good man. Don't open that door.

[A]

Go wrong man be thinking that they. They. They ladies just about to put up with all of the. You could bring their way. You rapping going to learn too. Y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

They. They going to fix y' all up. Y' all keep playing with them when she fed up.

[E]

Ain't nothing you can do about it.

[A]

Y.

[E]

That's what the boy said.

[A]

Y' all keep playing with them like that. Any who, I don't think I really have anything else that we have to get to. I got a part of the show that I.

[E]

Let's go.

[A]

Part of the show. Chris Roscoe, 24. Chris Roscoe says am I wrong for cutting off family? No. No. Maybe.

[B]

Let's listen to him.

[A]

You're not all family, right, Nana? Seen this little. This little Nana get busy.

[B]

Still up, Nana? What up, Nana talking about? Yo, I about Nana.

[A]

I caught a fat charge. I was 12. Nana got that Nana intuition. If the 12 year old is breaking in the bank or some, then yeah.

[B]

Hello, badass. Don't bring her ass over, like all the time.

[A]

Yo. A backstory. When me and my now fiance first started dating, I wasn't the best boyfriend. Lot of week long breakups. Oh, lot in those breakups, I'd go back to an ex. Now during now during that that my older brother, same mom who was and still is married, would tell her things o say, I'm still with my ex. You should leave him. Oh, you deserve better. He'll never be faithful. And my personal favorite, it'll take him a miracle. Oh, yeah, I used to have been here. Cut this nigga off. Yeah, that too. On one occasion, he slid in her DM and commented on her sexy maid costume and said, I would love to see you in that in person. He also tried to invite himself over for a plate of food when he seen a post of her cooking in a rather inappropriate manner that made her uncomfortable.

[C]

What is.

[A]

I came clean to what I did during breaks and she told me everything he was saying behind my back because in her words, she said, he doesn't love you the way you think he does. I hate when women say that in a relationship, but she should have said, she right. She's right. But I hate when women do that. Nobody in that family does. Oh, that was the end of the quote. Since that moment, I've cut him off. But that's what bothers me, is that the rest of the family doesn't see it as a problem, which lets me know, okay. He can move, however, out here, even to those close. And it's okay because he's family. Oh, because he's the family favorite. Okay, cool. I'm a step back from all of y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[E]

Oh, he cut.

[A]

Family, everybody. I'm a step back from all of y'. All. Which I have no calls. Which I have no calls, no texts, no family gatherings, no contact, period. Am I wrong for this? Also, at times, I want to be a messy bitch and tell his wife a little something something, but I feel like I'll be the exact same person he is by doing such, so I don't even bother. But the thought does linger. Distinguished cast. Have a blast with this topic.

[D]

Do it, please.

[A]

So.

[C]

If everything he said there is true, he's not wrong. However, I feel like if the entire family knows all this creep shit that he just said and they're on that side, I don't know. I feel like something might be missing. Something might be missing.

[D]

There's definitely something.

[E]

Like, even. Even a. It's definitely something missing the. That he's saying like she. He's brother slid an old girl DM saying xyz. I wouldn't know if she gave him any rhythm back that he don't know about. That could be. That could be what?

[A]

Nice. Come on.

[E]

It could be. He could be getting one side of.

[D]

A story if she did that.

[A]

That's true. You're right.

[E]

That's all I'm saying. And there could be something totally different that went on and now she trying to make it look this way.

[A]

You're right. I was going to say you're wrong because why would she tell him. But I'm wrong. That's wrong. Yeah, yeah, but which would still be wrong.

[C]

But like.

[E]

Yes, but. But if everything he said is true.

[A]

Definitely.

[E]

I'm not talking to the brother. We got. We gotta square up. Yeah, but the rest of the family.

[F]

I don't know.

[A]

I think you're wrong.

[D]

That's why it's weird from everybody.

[E]

That's why I feel like something's off, it's something else.

[B]

Simon is missing from the piece.

[C]

Unless the family is just real fast up.

[D]

I was gonna say like that. That she's a floozy.

[C]

But even if she's a floozy, the family should intervene in some better way.

[B]

When you're a floozy, man, you open for everybody, man.

[F]

Why not cut the whole family off them.

[D]

No, you're talking somebody who don't talk to their grandma. I mean like.

[A]

Yeah, y' all are toxic.

[F]

You just gonna sprinkle that in the conversation.

[B]

I'm just saying that's perspective like that big to some of us though. For real.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Well, don't bring it back up. Grandmother.

[B]

We love us.

[F]

We can't be too. Call her.

[B]

Give me her number.

[F]

Give me your number.

[A]

Cuz the grandmas had that power. They could tell you going to be at about 8. Nanny seen your little ass. Please.

[F]

She would love if I call her. Please.

[D]

I. I think back. Family means a lot to me. So it would be hard for me to. To see it does. You take a single person's action same as a good reason to stop rocking with everybody. Yeah, I would have to be. It'd have to be a real deep pattern of a lot.

[E]

It's more gotta happen a lot more actually to cut the whole family off. No.

[A]

Yeah. Not the whole family. I'll dead my brother for sure not the whole family.

[D]

Yeah, same. Yeah, same.

[A]

I don't care if you my brother. If I. If I deem you don't mean me anymore.

[E]

If you're doing all that you're not my brother. Yeah, if that story's all true, the way you said it, it's a good way to think. That's not my brother. It's not my brother at all.

[A]

The brother different dad or something.

[F]

You know what? Y' all are right.

[A]

What about.

[F]

What about everything Y, right?

[A]

My grandma. You going to call her? You get home?

[F]

No, bro.

[A]

All right. Chris. I hope we were able to help, man.

[E]

I do.

[A]

I hope we were able to help.

[C]

Best of luck.

[D]

That's right. Best of luck.

[A]

She must have been. And what she was cooking in, like.

[C]

Yeah, it's dangerous.

[A]

I don't have anything else.

[B]

Oh, the app. App.

[A]

Sophie's there. Y' all don't care.

[C]

We'll do a Patreon.

[D]

That's a good Patreon.

[A]

Look at you. Great Patreon, right? You know what? And now I'm playing it. And now we doing it. Right Now y' all talking. Yeah, because we gave him such a hard time. And the Internet gave him such a hard time. Let me let him clean it up. Okay. Let's see.

[F]

Thanks.

[A]

You fresh, Lord. Yeah, let my guy get his off, man.

[B]

Send a spirit to the Lord I'm just a vessel I told you that. Of sound mind and body bags Ride out your will with a quill Dip.

[F]

It in your bloodline DOA your whole.

[B]

DNA do 5 million big mad the irony is of comprising this in oxygen I don't need no page, just paper the legal tender bender plead the fifth or agree to get into stitches Administered big expenditures sickening digits a million minutes comma, after, comma, after I can't call it my phone on do not disturb I zone out then crop out your big picture Hit licks and dig ditches explicits, mind you, you I'm righteous, I'm just fitting Throw missiles poetically throw whistles Most definitely the best that y' all.

[F]

Seen I need.

[E]

Solo give me my.

[B]

Props, man this the victory lap on.

[F]

The Mafia th.

[A]

Second verse he has some amp Kai lines up, I'm amped.

[B]

Up Amp the team stand up by any means possible Cobra Kai I kicks lots of flow don't let me forget gay P since 18 been on the radar I came in the game of day free Mr. Terrorist threats with a AR my sister scissor told you they chatting only dubs in the comments Going to need a beverage.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I start Armageddon yeah, right the now no lanes within the gang and them heavy is the cranium rocking the crown Ain't no angels aiming at me only Back shots fall, bad bras. These balls paint walls. Is it insensitive to say pause?

[A]

I'mma pause this. I can easily see how you forgot this. Yeah, I can easily see.

[C]

So, like, I. I love soul. First of all, this ain't the same thing. Like, the whole point of the live freestyle is to show that you can rap doing it in a studio. Yeah, we know you can rap in a studio. It's a different thing.

[E]

Yeah, he's the one outside of the moment.

[C]

It's still dope. Like.

[A]

Oh, yeah, I agree with that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't, like, redeem everything for you.

[C]

Not even close.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And he will when he goes to the next radio freestyle and bodies before.

[A]

Yeah. So I'm call you, man. I'm gonna call you. I tied up last night, man. I'm gonna call you. Get to the bottom of this. But one, I can see how you forgot this, because that pocket is complicated. You're saying it's a lot. It's a lot going on here. One, two. It did explain that he wrote that to. Well, the producer of that beat said he originally wrote to Bodies. The Bodies beat amp cleared it. Then they said, no, we can't do that. Or they didn't want to do that because if you do that beat, we can't put it on streaming.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So then they decided to do an original beat, and then that didn't get cleared, and then it was back to the bodies beat. So I could see. That's not fair.

[C]

That's not stuffer.

[A]

So he just put it out over the original to let you know this.

[E]

Is what I was. Okay.

[A]

Shout out to solo the whole team. I don't have anything else that needs our attention. How about y' all look at my girl Mona? You're gonna get used to it.

[F]

I'm good.

[A]

You gonna get used to it?

[F]

I'm great. Guys.

[A]

You went to Mary Birchum. Girl, you. You was down the hall.

[F]

Shout out to Mary Bertram, man. Class of 2026.

[A]

Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Anything else pressing on your minds, hearts, bodies, spirits and souls? Pause.

[B]

No. Get us about it.

[A]

Okay. Okay, Good. Yeah. Y' all been waiting on it. Y' all been waiting to get up out here. Y' all did good, man. It's a good day today.

[B]

Hey, we gotta look like we enjoying it.

[A]

My computer, man. You said what?

[B]

Okay, next time, just look like we having fun. So then he'll make us want to leave. Like, when we look. Don't ever do that again.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

But we look like we want to leave. He gonna say, oh, I don't know.

[F]

Classic.

[A]

I don't be thinking y' all look like y' all want to leave. I just look. It look like y' all don't be getting sleep and food and like. Yeah.

[B]

Cause be ordering rip eyes for other people, for new people.

[A]

Oh, man.

[F]

You want peace?

[A]

We're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about that on Patreon, too.

[B]

Talking to my relationship. Yeah, of course.

[F]

I'll give you a piece of my steak.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

That thing over there looking good too. That steak ready? Go ahead.

[B]

You really. You get that off in the way. I'm calling in tonight.

[A]

Lip, when you were a new hire.

[B]

I didn't get no food. No, I didn't. You knocked on the window and called me seven times outside.

[A]

I ordered mad food for you when you were in the freeze.

[B]

How many times call me outside, bro? When I first got here, it wasn't this.

[E]

It was like talking about the food.

[A]

We just talking about food.

[B]

But that for what? To have meetings and it was crazy.

[A]

You just ordered different from her. Like she ordered a ribeye. You ordered the nuggets. The nuggets.

[B]

So let me order some right now with your phone game.

[A]

Not at all.

[B]

What about you Let me order something.

[A]

It's over.

[B]

Yeah, I'm telling you, gonna let me order something?

[F]

Kiss them smelly ass fingernails.

[B]

You gotta order your little food. I'll take it. I don't eat your.

[A]

I'll take it if you have some mine, sport. Listen, man, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you ado farewell. Adiosa, Riva Diri, Hasta la vista arvois. So long goodbye or simple head nodded suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all.

[B]

Oh, we.

[A]

We have until next time. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the close minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol. You might need it. Until next time. What y' all doing this weekend? Anything lit?

[B]

Anything lit?

[F]

I'm in D.C. this weekend, baby.

[D]

Hey, big Mona up you performing? Where you at?

[F]

Tonight's Conversation.

[A]

Nice.

[D]

I heard that.

[B]

Oh, oh, ain't playing. Hey, yo.

[D]

Y.

[B]

You.

[E]

That's my. Right there.

[A]

That's the that Jesus piece album. I'm telling you, man. Shout out to the. See, it's him again. I know it's him again. Shout out to. I hope you have a good weekend.

[B]

I'm pulling up.

[A]

What you on this weekend?

[D]

I got the freeze.

[A]

What you on?

[E]

I'm going to the circus and I think I'm gonna surprise my mom and take her to the Cowboys and Jets game because she's a Cowboys fan. So I'm gonna see if she's willing to skip church or not. So we'll see.

[C]

Oh, that's.

[D]

Let me know how that circus is. I told my wife we're gonna go after you go.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

All right, let's.

[D]

Oh, here you her soul Circus flip.

[B]

We filming, you know.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Just filming.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Preparing myself.

[A]

It's good to be prepared.

[B]

She told me.

[A]

Well, OG park, what you want?

[C]

Home state. Home state.

[A]

You go home. Go home for the weekend. Yeah. Your wife coming? Nope. Hey, you going see that? You see that? Childhood friend?

[B]

I'm sorry.

[C]

A bunch of them great ass guys. We'll see.

[D]

Good fellas.

[B]

Good fellas.

[A]

I ain't got too much going on this weekend, man. Staying safe. I'm chilling. I might add to North Brunswick, get some dinner or something. I'm keeping it light. I'll be with my baby.

[F]

A lot of bad.

[A]

We love y', all, man. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. Y' all hold it down for the weekend. We'll be back same time, same place, next week. You heard?

[F]

She love my tattoo.

[A]

Ain't got no room for her name.

[F]

But I'mma make room.

[A]

She let her hair down.

[F]

We have a star down, she said, I'm glad you ate it. Wear my cap and gown.

[A]

You've never heard of Joe Bun? Jbp.

[F]

Jbp? Where would you be without the jvp?

[A]

Well, fold that up right now.

[B]

Don't look away now, pussy.