Episode 867 | "Ingestfest"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 867 | "Ingestfest"

Date: October 8, 2025

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Overview

In episode 867, "Ingestfest," Joe Budden welcomes back Ish to the group as the crew reunites for an episode filled with their trademark banter, lively debates, cultural commentary, and deep dives into hip hop history and current events. They cover everything from the aging of classic albums, the social intricacies of past relationships, high-profile legal cases, AI's impact on pop culture, sports controversies, and the ongoing question of self-worth in career negotiations. Along the way, the hosts provide an inside look into their distinct personalities and perspectives.

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Main Segments & Discussion Highlights

1. Welcome Back Ish & Opening Jokes

Timestamps: 00:33 – 03:00

• The crew excitedly welcomes Ish back after some time away, joking about the way men show affection (often through playful violence).
• Discussion about vacations vs "staycations" and the hustle of business in Q4.
• Early joking about calling the cops and the group's playful paranoia.

2. Which Albums Aged Badly?

Timestamps: 02:57 – 16:00

• The team debates which classic hip hop albums have not stood the test of time.
  • Raekwon’s “Only Built 4 Cuban Linx…” ("Purple Tape"):
    • Ish argues the lyrics no longer resonate in 2025, though everyone agrees musically it remains stellar.
    • "When you start really listening to the words, they don’t resonate like that no more." – Ish (04:49)
  • Biggie’s “Ready to Die”:
    • Joe states his "expert opinion" that some of it aged poorly, sparking friendly pushback.
    • "I think 'Gimme the Loot' has aged horribly. Really horribly." – Joe Budden (12:29)
  • 2Pac’s Discography:
    • The group agrees most Pac albums, except "All Eyez on Me" and "Makaveli", haven’t aged as well.
    • Mark and Parks highlight production as a big factor:
      "Pac’s production, even back then, was not the greatest." – Parks (13:28–13:31)
  • The Fugees' “The Score”:
    • Mark contends it aged worse than "Ready to Die" except for Lauryn Hill’s parts.

3. Cultural Commentary: Identity, Music & Newark

Timestamps: 06:00 – 10:00

• A sidebar exploring Newark’s thriving LGBTQ+ scene and its connection to house music—old-school local culture analyzed with humor.
• Running joke about “cupping” in Newark and playful back-and-forth about church upbringings.

4. Hip Hop Gatekeeping & Knowledge Quiz

Timestamps: 19:00 – 24:30

• The group throws quick "hip hop quizzes" at each other, recalling classic lines from Scarface, Ghetto Boys, and more.
  • "I sit alone in my four cornered room staring at candles…"
  • This segment celebrates nostalgia and gatekeeping in rap.

5. Generations & The Good Ol' Days

Timestamps: 24:30 – 26:55

• Reflects on how much tougher (and less “depressed”) life seemed in the '90s, with jokes about robbing and the "wet block" era in Newark.
• Lighthearted ribbing about the current generation and social media.

6. Weekend Recaps: The Universal Soul Circus & Fishing Trips

Timestamps: 28:36 – 35:07

• Ish recounts family time at the Universal Soul Circus, highlighting how performances have shifted away from animal acts.
• Parks shares stories from his "bachelor party reboot" upstate—fishing, music, and camaraderie—sparking a brief discussion on learning to fish.

7. The Chicken Noodle Soup Era & Rap Careers

Timestamps: 33:59 – 37:33

• Flip reveals details about his brief viral rap career (including “Chicken Noodle Soup Queens Mix” with 3 million+ YouTube views).
• Joe and the gang play the track and joke about rap fads and local scenes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On album aging:
  "Could it be that you don’t resonate with the lyrics because you’re just in a different space in life?" – Ish (05:05)

• On Biggie and Pac discourse:
  "There are people that are not Tupac people. I’ve accepted that too..." – Joe (16:00) "Pac was selling 5 and 6 million albums when you had to go in the store and buy them!" – Mark (16:34)

• On relationships and body counts:
  "Why do we get on these mics as Black men and are afraid to say we’re insecure about certain things?" – Flip (127:05) "I think asking a lady’s body count is whack… but the who's on that list could definitely determine if I really…" – Ish (124:14, 124:21) "I care about the lying. There’s nothing that… that’s going to make me look at this different. Now, if you lied to me…" – Joe (133:10)

• On Ayesha Curry and public marriage critiques:
  "It might be nothing. But it also could be something…" (137:45, Joe on warning signs in relationships) "We can’t tell somebody how to basically describe normalcy in a relationship… But the people that are looking, they're gonna make an opinion with any public relationship." – Ish (94:01)

• On Molly Qerim’s Salary Exit from ESPN:
  "Know your worth is a dice game." – Joe (115:54) "It’s tricky because you… are at a crossroads." – Ish (115:44) "It’s cold out here… and you niggas running around thinking y’all gonna… is a name I wanna say… he ran around thinking it was a nice spring summer day outside. It’s up outside!" – Joe (119:39)

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Coverage of Major Current Events

8. David (R&B Singer) and The Ongoing Suspicion

Timestamps: 40:18 – 46:59

• Recap of the David missing persons/murder case: timeline issues, public suspicion, and legal technicalities.

• Group is skeptical of recent “not a suspect” police statements, agreeing to "wait and see".
  "He is a suspect. There’s so much wink, wink, circumstantial evidence…" – Joe (42:11)

• Broader discussion on rap lyrics & criminal evidence:
  "I don’t think it should be the only evidence… If you have other proof, and then in the song they’re saying, 'hey, I did this thing…' – Parks (46:59)

9. Mark Sanchez Case (Retired QB Fights Elderly Man)

Timestamps: 49:35 – 53:00

• Story breakdown: Mark Sanchez, drunk, attacks a 69-year-old oil collector in an Indianapolis alley; both parties are injured and arrested.
  "Safe to say Mark Sanchez probably won’t have his analyst job anymore..." – Joe (51:22)

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10. On Guns & Urban Nightlife

Timestamps: 57:17 – 58:59

• A real talk segment about how common firearms are at social events, with group consensus that 75-85% of the time people are around guns unknowingly in urban nightlife settings.

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11. Organized Groups, Black MAGA at HBCUs

Timestamps: 62:03 – 63:13

• Brief mention and critique of Black MAGA groups allegedly trying to incite unrest on HBCU campuses.

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12. Prize Picks & Fantasy Football

Timestamps: 63:13 – 66:42

• Standard Prize Picks gaming segment, sharing weekly picks and poking fun at industry-standard paid reads.

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Lifestyle & Tangent Highlights

13. Injuries, Remedies & "Stepped On" Icy Hot

Timestamps: 66:42 – 68:25

• Joe vents about modern-day products being weaker versions of what they once were: "They stepping on the Icy Hot!"

14. LeBron Retirement Speculation & Bronny

Timestamps: 68:35 – 75:00

• The crew dives into LeBron James’s viral “second decision” promo, his future plans, and Bronny’s NBA prospects.
• Mark asks: "Is this the year we can judge Bronny?" and the gang debates whether it’s fair to critique LeBron’s son so early.

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15. Ayesha Curry, Marriage in the Public Eye & Double Standards

Timestamps: 75:32 – 96:16

• They dissect Ayesha Curry’s podcast statements about not wanting to marry early, missing out on certain life experiences, and public reaction to her candor.
• Discussion expands to relationship privacy, gender double standards in public discourse, and the tendency for the internet to build narratives around celebrity marriages.
• Memorable moment:
  • "Let’s play the clip first..." (79:36 – 80:44, playing Ayesha’s podcast statement)
  • "She can go get a job—" (81:10, Corey’s opinion triggers debate)
  • "When you get in relationships that young, I think she could potentially feel like she missed out on a big part of the world..." – Ish (81:39)
  • "If he’s saying 'I’m not embarrassed,' then let’s say it’s bothering us, not that it’s bothering him." – Mark (91:31, on projecting opinions)

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16. Molly Qerim, ESPN, and “Know Your Worth”

Timestamps: 101:17 – 118:19

• Discussion of Molly’s abrupt ESPN exit due to a contract dispute.
• Deep dive into media salary caps, gender and role disparities, and the real risks of betting on your value in a cutthroat industry.
  • "The salary cap on each of the roles tells the story... this is not really about Molly." – Joe (107:30)
  • "Know your worth is a dice game." – Joe (115:54)

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Cultural Commentary & Real-Life Lessons

17. Cam Newton & Asking for Body Counts

Timestamps: 122:11 – 133:13

• Cam says he wants to know “actual bodies” (including famous names) before getting serious with someone. The group debates practicality, honesty, and whether wanting that information is insecurity or healthy caution.
  • "That shit is weird…" – Mark (127:29)
  • "Why are we afraid to acknowledge insecurity?" – Flip (127:05)

18. Mental Health – Kyron Lacy Case & Suicide in Injustice

Timestamps: 163:50 – 170:43

• Emotional discussion about the tragic suicide of LSU athlete Kyron Lacy, wrongly implicated in a fatal car accident.
  • "A lot of innocent people kill themselves in prison..." – Mark (166:05)
  • Strong message: “If you’re fighting a silent battle, give yourself a shot—tomorrow’s not today.”

19. AI/Sora & Deepfakes – Ethics of Digital Resurrection

Timestamps: 157:22 – 162:05

• Joe and the crew discuss Sora/OpenAI’s lifelike deepfakes, including viral, dark humor Stephen Hawking memes and the legal/ethical quagmires around synthesizing dead celebrities for content.
  • "They could take your likeness and make you fight for something you were totally against." – Joe (162:42)

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Pop Culture & Reviews

20. Movies: “The Smashing Machine,” Jonathan Majors, 824 Films

Timestamps: 172:06 – 177:48

• Explains why The Rock's "Smashing Machine" flopped (poor marketing, competition), but the crew plans to see it.
• Talks about the cult status of A24 films, praising their weirdness while joking about “Lamb” (the movie where a woman delivers a goat).

21. Taylor Swift & Cardi B Current Events

Timestamps: 179:41 – 181:44

• Brief teasers on Taylor Swift’s mega-album release and Cardi B “spending more in Starlets than her opp’s streams,” promising to revisit on Patreon.

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Final Thoughts & Closing

Timestamps: 183:32 – End

• Shoutouts, event plugs (Ish going to see Tony Rock & Jay Pharaoh, Flip in Baltimore), and reminders to subscribe to Mark’s new Patreon.
• Joe closes:
  "Life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have.” (185:30)

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Podcast Flow & Tone

• Language: Authentic, conversational, with classic Joe Budden energy – alternates between serious, insightful, and comedic.
• Dynamic: Features genuine disagreements, good-natured ribbing, and surprising moments of vulnerability and wisdom.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a prime example of why fans love (and sometimes debate) The Joe Budden Podcast:

• It’s a melting pot of hip hop nostalgia, current events, barbershop humor, relationship therapy, and real-life philosophy.
• The blend of cultural history, generational shifts, and unfiltered honesty gives both long-time fans and new listeners plenty to chew on.

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Quick Guide to Key Segments

• Albums Aging Badly: 03:13–16:00
• Newark & House Music Culture: 06:04–10:00
• Rapper Gatekeeping & Hip Hop Quiz: 19:00–24:30
• Body Count/Insecurity Debate: 122:11–133:13
• Ayesha Curry & Marriage Hot Takes: 75:32–96:16
• Molly Qerim, ESPN & “Know Your Worth”: 101:17–118:19
• AI/Sora Deepfakes Discussion: 157:22–162:05
• Mental Health & Wrongful Accusation: 163:50–170:43

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In their words:
"Know your worth is a dice game." – Joe Budden (115:54)
"Life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have." – Joe Budden (185:30)

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Skip the ads & intros — listen for the free-flowing, boundary-pushing, sometimes wild, always entertaining group dynamic.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. It has to, like, first of all, welcome back. Ish.

[B]

Welcome back.

[C]

Welcome back.

[A]

Make some noise. Make some noise. Make some noise.

[D]

I slap you. Yeah.

[E]

Welcome back, brother.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Is that how you welcome people?

[C]

They gonna walk through the door or violence?

[A]

Why do black people do that?

[E]

I show love differently. I'm happy to see him. Yeah. I don't want to hug him, but I tell him, I slap you if.

[D]

You ever do that again.

[A]

So you're happy to see him and you love him a lot and you miss them. I do. I do.

[E]

Translate it.

[D]

You know, you.

[E]

You in tune.

[D]

You translate it.

[A]

Not all the way. Not all the way. Welcome back.

[E]

Welcome back, boy.

[A]

Welcome back.

[B]

How was your vacation?

[C]

It's cool.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Yo, see how you don't want to slap?

[D]

I knew you'd come back with stories.

[E]

How you don't want to slap somebody.

[A]

I feel you. I feel you just that fast. I feel you. I feel him. Why? Because, like, that's all we get. Like, what you been up to?

[C]

I wasn't on vacation. I was. I was working, man. I wasn't. If I was on vacation, I'd be like, yo, that was fire.

[A]

You were just on home. All right, so you was working. So business is booming in the fourth quarter.

[B]

A staycation.

[C]

It's cool. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming along.

[A]

Coming along.

[C]

Looking promising.

[E]

You always told us that you talking to the feds like we your friends. We're not trying to get you locked up. Then they can talk to us.

[A]

Well, we're all friends, and I don't want you all to get locked up. Don't think that I'm not calling the cops on some of y', all because.

[E]

You'Re not calling the cops on nobody here.

[A]

I just really don't feel like calling the cops.

[B]

What offenses would you call the cops on?

[A]

You're not calling the cops on nobody. But that's not. Cause y' all so fly. I just don't feel like now we gotta pay a bill, but, you know, it's gonna. You're gonna be on that phone for me. You just don't feel like doing that.

[E]

You got Corey.

[A]

You don't need police this.

[C]

Relate the Cops or he know to pay the bill.

[A]

The cops is customers. Yeah.

[C]

That's your man.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

That's some rich.

[A]

Well, now, what'd you say? What would I call cops on for? For us.

[B]

On us.

[A]

On y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's the problem. That's just the thing. That's just the thing. I'm still trying to answer it.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[E]

You gotta play just.

[C]

Stupid ass.

[A]

That question. That question keeps coming up.

[C]

It plagues me.

[A]

I'm actively working through the answer. I'll keep you guys posted on that.

[B]

I can dig.

[A]

All right. It's just back up in this case.

[E]

Welcome back.

[B]

We missed you, buddy.

[A]

What were we saying about ish? We were talking about albums that aged bad. We were somebody here who we won't blow up to the public. Just. It started implying Joe's playing the song.

[C]

And he asked Parks for the intro. Yo, what's the song that goes. And Parks looked at him like an and said, raekwon rainy days. And I asked park, show, when's the last time?

[A]

I don't know Raekwon discography. Off the top of my mind.

[B]

Yes, the you do.

[C]

Shout out to Ray.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know Raekwon's discography. I know everybody else. You God. Nah, it's Pre and Post Capadonna. You know Pre?

[C]

You know Pre? Oh, yeah, you know the Pre.

[D]

But thanks, Post. He forgot all that.

[A]

Post, right?

[C]

He know Pre.

[D]

All right, then what did you.

[C]

I said, yo, when's the last time you heard the purple team? And park said, recently. And I said, love that of him. I said, you think it age well?

[B]

I do.

[C]

Said, I do. And I said, okay.

[D]

And they said, you don't say okay.

[C]

I said, okay. And park said, why you don't think it age well?

[D]

And I said, and you ain't say nothing.

[A]

Sat there with botox mouth. There we go.

[C]

He said it.

[D]

That's all we do is say that. You don't think the purple tape aged well?

[B]

What about it don't you think aged well is my question.

[D]

What is it you don't like the great beats or the awesome lyrics?

[C]

No, the lyrics are not awesome. The flows are amazing and the beats are incredible. But when you start to now end 2025, listen to the words. So it's an amazing project because the music is amazing. You can put that shit on and drive to D.C. with it on. But when you start really listening to.

[A]

You ain't driving to D.C. everybody don't got no driver, my nigga.

[C]

Pardon me? You know what I'm saying? I ain't get there yet. But no, when you started listening to the words, they don't resonate like that no more.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

That he could say anything and you'd.

[B]

Be like, it's a lot of slavery.

[C]

But you was with it when it first dropped, right?

[A]

The lyrics and everything, right? What?

[C]

So could it be break at night, tonight? So look, could it be that you don't resonate with lyrics because you're just in a different space in life?

[E]

Exactly. Hanging out with young people, hanging out with young men.

[D]

You don't sell drugs to the community no more.

[C]

I was trying to.

[E]

You got money.

[C]

You're not poisoning our youth.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, good.

[B]

Or he's no longer 5%. I mean.

[A]

Oh, that's true.

[E]

To kick them out.

[C]

I never was 5%.

[D]

You joined the 10.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

That's enough of that.

[A]

You was one of them that found a clique you like and adopted they habit. You found you a 5%, a click. And then you became Ish.

[C]

Nobody in my hood was 5 percenter like that.

[A]

Oh, that's not true. I'm not.

[C]

That I was hanging with. No, no. I said it's a million of them.

[A]

5 percenters was out there.

[D]

It was everywhere.

[C]

A million.

[A]

They still out there.

[E]

They still are right there.

[A]

Nigga, somebody else is out there too.

[C]

Yo, you good? Yo, yo.

[A]

Always deny the gay heritage in Newark. That's where you go.

[D]

I don't know this. What's the gay heritage in Newark?

[C]

I don't know it either.

[A]

The gay music scene. The gay scene in Newark is a thriving, thriving scene and has been since early 90s. Oh, really?

[E]

I wouldn't beat it.

[B]

Yes, it all makes sense.

[A]

Oh, come on.

[B]

It could all be so simple.

[A]

Come on.

[D]

No, no, no.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I can read your eyes, bitch. Come on. Come on. I don't think. Speaking of gay, don't think that. I think I found an ally in you. Those days are over.

[E]

Yo.

[C]

You need an ally. Hold on.

[D]

I am your ally, Joe. This is a safe space.

[E]

Yeah, word.

[C]

Yo, dog, if you need to. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Let it out, bro.

[D]

No, it's funny you say that though, because I like maybe like last summer.

[C]

Or two summers ago, a video of Joe.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no. We were iron bound, me and my wife, and we were walking through and there was a big, like, LGBT party in the middle of Newark. I was actually surprised to see that it was so big, like near downtown, but I thought that was just a One off. A one off? You're saying, like, Newark actually is, like, known for that?

[A]

Yes. Wait, y' all think we just only got house music?

[D]

That's a good point.

[A]

Wait, hold up for a second. Y' all never made no correlation.

[D]

That's a good.

[A]

Y' all think we was just st down. Follow me, follow me. Like, tell me how y' all think.

[D]

That had a bath house.

[A]

Y' all never made a connection.

[C]

All right, yo, he.

[B]

It's okay, guys.

[E]

What's up?

[A]

No, that's your man Free.

[D]

You're actually.

[C]

The song Deep Down Inside means something different.

[A]

I don't put that together.

[D]

That's. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

My brain didn't even think of that song.

[C]

I know you did.

[E]

Deep down inside, now that you mentioned it.

[D]

Pretty.

[A]

You got it, fam. Jesus. Yeah, you got it. See, you from a.

[C]

You. You knew a different part of.

[A]

You got to be careful. Trying to. Trying to educate people. You from.

[C]

You from a different part of do.

[B]

All right.

[A]

It just slides you on air.

[C]

I know you walk.

[A]

Hey, I put all that to bed. Hey, keep it.

[D]

What?

[A]

Put the red dot on his cam. Stop n. Now your first day back. Don't do that.

[E]

Oh, no day back.

[A]

Now your first day back. No day. But not your first.

[C]

All right, you got it.

[A]

And not now. Ne. If I'm up, you don't know. Things have changed. Well, since you've been going. My back is. I don't use that. My back is up. What happened? I think Lex just jumped on my.

[C]

Ooh, no, no.

[A]

I think Lex just jumped on my shit. And when. When I wasn't prepared, looking, and I didn't feel it till the next day, and now it's a week later.

[E]

It's gonna go away, though.

[C]

No, it's gonna go away.

[A]

It don't seem to be improving.

[C]

It's gonna go away.

[D]

You did acupuncture?

[E]

Yes.

[D]

You did. A couple weeks of that should do it. And the cupping and all that.

[A]

Another one tonight, nigga. I got hard out.

[D]

Acupuncture, cupping, all that stuff. It'll happen. It'll get. It'll get there eventually.

[C]

That cup and shit really worked. Yeah, yeah, it worked.

[A]

I do it.

[D]

I do it every week.

[C]

It worked.

[A]

Yo, shout out to everybody. That cupping shit really works. I throw niggas off. Don't you never cupped.

[D]

Well, he cupped. He's from Newark, man.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Watch this guy.

[A]

And his family's from the church.

[E]

Oh, watch out about the freeze.

[A]

Riding with my man about A whole. That Thursday, Sunday school.

[C]

They got it.

[E]

Yo, stop.

[D]

I know that.

[E]

They go in at 5 in the afternoon.

[D]

They get out 12am Exactly.

[A]

Thursday, Wednesday, Sunday. In the morning.

[D]

In the morning.

[A]

Oh, what time you got?

[D]

Hold 12.

[A]

Stop.

[D]

Go to the.

[C]

Who the fuck you talking about Thursday? Sunday.

[E]

Scratch your mouth.

[A]

That's funny.

[E]

Thursday to Sunday.

[A]

My mom tried to put me in that shit. Nah, nah. Sorry, sorry.

[D]

Some shit.

[A]

You gotta put your foot down as a kid.

[D]

Fucking idiot. Just to tie this whole thing together.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Ish. Said purple tape didn't age well. And then you said something blasphemous.

[A]

No, I didn't.

[E]

You said it before on here.

[A]

Yeah, I gave my very expert music opinion on something.

[D]

Huh.

[A]

And which was without a care as to what novice may disagree.

[D]

Okay, and what was it?

[E]

Yeah, what was it?

[A]

Oh, I said, ready to die is aged.

[B]

Like, I disagree.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And you think that's expert.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't try to mix my words.

[C]

You said regardless. Expert music opinion.

[A]

I said, that's my music opinion.

[B]

I think there's some shit on there that did definitely age bad.

[A]

I'm a music expert, but there's a.

[B]

Bunch of shit that didn't.

[C]

That's what I just said.

[B]

I think there's some shit that aged bad on there, but there's some shit definitely didn't.

[A]

There's a lot of shit that didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

There's more that didn't.

[D]

Yeah. That wouldn't make the list of things that didn't age on me. I think the score actually aged way worse than really getting ready to worse than that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

When I listen to the score now, I only want to hear Lawrence versus and I love this.

[B]

Oh, that's fair.

[D]

Where at the time, like, you could kind of. You could fight prizes.

[C]

Hey, yo, let me ask you a question.

[A]

Oh, Prize was your idol.

[D]

No. Watch.

[A]

You wanted to be prized.

[D]

Nobody wanted to be prized.

[C]

Yo, you think.

[E]

Watch your mouth.

[D]

Free him.

[E]

He went to jail yet?

[C]

Free him.

[D]

Watch the fuck himself. Watch himself, bro.

[C]

Please ask him.

[A]

Please. So you think back in the day.

[C]

Clef and PR Was killing.

[D]

What I'm saying is, at the time, neither one master lyrics. You could get through it. Now watch this. When I listen to the score now, I'm kind of like, I really want to hear Lauren skip to the next track. I love the production, and I like some of Clef's verses, but I'm just saying I don't. It didn't age as well as I would have thought.

[E]

Shout out to Wyclef, nigga, watch out.

[A]

My aged better than ready to die.

[D]

I mean, aged worse than ready to die. Ready to die to me is amazing.

[A]

And then you want to respect. You wanna God out here. You're not putting Patron in your car today. It don't sound the same. I might skip that one.

[D]

The rest of it I'm good with.

[C]

What else on it? Is age bad?

[A]

Everything that's not a pre beat. Oh, that's crazy. Everything that's not a preen beat.

[B]

Suicidal tendency.

[D]

Yes. That's Lord Finesse. Everyday struggle.

[A]

That's one of the best songs ever made. Don't be stupid. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Things done change.

[D]

You keep naming.

[A]

Right. Don't be stupid.

[D]

It's just a great album. You just don't like Pat, that Patrick song, which is fine.

[A]

No, it's not that. I think Give Me the Loot has aged horribly. Really horribly.

[C]

You think so?

[B]

We just played that by the campfire.

[D]

You start robbing people now you don't like. You got the loot. He's like, I don't need it.

[C]

This nigga's crazy.

[E]

Real quick. And then I asked what PAC album didn't age well, and park said, all.

[A]

No, the room. The whole room went crazy. The whole room said every Pac album aged back.

[B]

No, I didn't say everyone. I said, except for All Eyes. I mean, Machiavelli.

[D]

Yeah, that's my answer, too. All Eyes. Amy. Machiavelli I'm good with. Yeah, the rest of.

[A]

So that means that y' all think.

[D]

Me against the World is the other 74 of them.

[C]

It's crazy.

[B]

The. The hits on there are still great. Look, the album cuts don't do it for Me the same way they used to.

[E]

Look at he tight.

[D]

He don't agree with y'.

[A]

All. See, I don't accept that take from the room.

[B]

Yeah, that's okay.

[E]

Explains.

[A]

I know. That's what I'm saying. I know.

[D]

I understand it, though.

[B]

Pac's production, even back then, was not the greatest.

[A]

So I understand it. I agree with that. But when he hit, he hit.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

And me against the World is.

[D]

He hit on it.

[A]

Hit me against the world. The hits for me is in there with All Eyes on Me and Machiavelli. Machiavelli left Earth. Yes, agree. Machiavelli left All Eyes on Me. Left Earth.

[B]

Machiavelli is also fire.

[D]

Yeah, but the problem with Me against the World is that there's too much Machiavelli.

[A]

All Eyes on Me for Me is ill. Medic. Illmatic. It was written. Ish.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I mean, I can live with that argument.

[A]

I think Machiavelli. Well, All Eyes on Me. He did leave her.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[A]

On a double album.

[B]

That album's insane.

[A]

Machiavelli, though, that shit's perfect with the hood. With the hood conspiracies that was floating around about.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And a little cool shit on album.

[D]

Yeah, that shit. You.

[B]

I just like All Eyes on Me better, but I think that's fine.

[D]

Got filler in it to me. Like now. I won't call it me against the world when I listen to it now. I love the big hits and then there's tracks I can skip.

[C]

What about All Eyes on Me? Speaking of filler.

[B]

There's not a ton of filler.

[A]

If you can. If you can.

[D]

And it's a double album, so I give it a little more.

[A]

You made All Eyes On Me one album is probably, arguably the best album ever. It's Thriller.

[D]

It's up there.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

It's up there.

[C]

But you didn't.

[A]

And it's still up there.

[C]

Still up there.

[A]

So.

[D]

Amazing.

[A]

Freeze, respectfully.

[C]

What? I'm here. I'm here today. I'm with you.

[A]

I'm here today.

[D]

You went outside.

[C]

That's all I have.

[A]

No, I'm not gonna say that. But I mean, mtv, like, bro.

[C]

It's just a different thing with the early pocket.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I'm talking about.

[D]

Don't really. With like that. Oh, is that west coast dude?

[E]

Yes, he does.

[C]

Pac ain't the west coast dude.

[A]

See, Freeze, don't really fuck with me.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You just don't fuck with Pac like that.

[C]

I'm not a big Pac fan, okay.

[D]

Oh, wait a minute. Because you didn't jump to my A when I was like, Pac was overrated when I first started working here, and I have.

[B]

That's cause you just started working here.

[D]

I said you didn't jump to my eight. I didn't say you had me die by myself.

[C]

No, you gotta go out there and fight on your own.

[A]

I gotta show you the fights just rock with you.

[C]

You gotta show you can get busy.

[A]

All right. As a hip hop head, though, there are certain things I've come to expect, right? And let me not say hip hop kid. Because that includes the fucking nerdy kids that was watching from their window as a. That was moving around in it and got a record deal. Damn, I forgot my point.

[D]

Spent so much time shitting on everybody.

[C]

Me against the world. I was outside.

[A]

Wait, what was we.

[C]

Oh, I was just outside.

[A]

There's certain things that you come to accept. There's certain opinions that, albeit different from yours, you've come to accept the fact that there are people that are not Tupac people. I've accepted that too.

[B]

I don't accept that.

[A]

I've accepted it.

[C]

I accept everything.

[B]

I don't accept that.

[D]

And I am a Tupac person. I'm just not. I just. I just know I'm as high as everybody else.

[A]

I'm too much of a Tupac person to have Tupac talks.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

I love that he's got a lot of. There's a lot of stuff in his discography that I could do it out. That's all I'm saying.

[C]

Yo, dog, I'm just about.

[A]

As a somebody to transcend one of the first people you saw that transcended this.

[B]

He's one of the most iconic artists of all time, regardless of genre.

[D]

Most kind of hip hop artists.

[C]

Tupac was selling 5 and 6 million albums when you had to go in the store and buy them, that Me against the World was a double.

[B]

I know.

[C]

That sold 6 million albums. All Eyes on Me. I'm not. I mean. I mean, I'm. Pardon me. I mean, All Eyes on Me was double.

[D]

Six.

[C]

Six million copies. My.

[D]

That was special then.

[A]

Double.

[B]

It's crazy.

[C]

Come on, bro.

[E]

P. You call him iconic of one of the iconic. The iconic rapper of all time. Based off of what? Not only music, but based off everything, music included.

[B]

I think that he has 10 songs that you could arguably say are the best hip hop song of all time.

[C]

I think Pac transcended music and his outside music is what really put him up there. And my. You got to think. I think he died at 25 or 26 years old.

[B]

26, I believe.

[C]

Like, yo fans was insane. He accomplished that before 26 years old.

[D]

Yeah, you get both of them.

[C]

Big is different because, no disrespect, Big only had two albums.

[B]

Yeah, true.

[C]

You get what I'm saying? Pac died and had 17 albums floating around the hood to the point where, like, yo, he ain't dead, right?

[D]

Some of that should have stayed on Machiavelli.

[C]

Number seven is out. Like. You get what I'm saying? I'm just giving you an example of how much shit he had put out.

[D]

He made a lot of music. I don't know all that. I don't know if he would have put all of it out. And I know a lot of it. He should not have put out.

[C]

Probably wouldn't have.

[D]

You know what I mean? So I don't. But. But I feel you. I mean, he transcends all the fact that people. He's the first black star, certainly Black Friday, first black rap star that transcended death. When people actually, you know, like Buddy Holly, Elvis, they're still living. Marilyn Monroe was still living. He was our first person. We were like, yo, this motherfucker can't be dead. That tells you how much he transcended hip hop.

[C]

I think that's a fact.

[D]

There's nobody bigger than Pac to me in hip hop.

[A]

We will come bigger. We will come back to this conversation about some of our biggest stars that are no longer with us. I do want to have the AI Soro. Soros.

[B]

Whatever.

[C]

Sora.

[A]

Sora. I want to have that talk with you guys about what they're doing with Prince and Michael.

[C]

Just everything, bro.

[A]

Everything. And what that means for us and the people listening out there mean. What does it mean for you and how does it impact you? I do want to have that conversation at some point, but let's start, man. I'm glad to have Ishback.

[D]

Word. Yes, sir. I don't bail for shutter jail.

[C]

What's the next line of that?

[D]

Ice?

[A]

Wait, what are. As soon as I step on the.

[C]

Scene, I hear the hoochie screaming PE for money.

[D]

California dreaming.

[A]

But yeah.

[E]

Okay, guys.

[A]

Oh, you. You gave Ice like a quick hip hop quiz.

[D]

He came back on fire this well rested.

[A]

We gatekeeping again. We gatekeeping again. Freeze. Told him. That's right. Freeze.

[E]

Let's go.

[D]

Freeze. That's right.

[E]

Out of here, right?

[A]

Freeze.

[B]

I sit alone in my four corner.

[A]

Room staring at candles who is this?

[E]

Oh, that is on.

[A]

Oh, gatekeeping.

[E]

Wait, hold on. Scarface.

[A]

Well, the ghetto boy.

[D]

We'll allow it.

[C]

We'll allow it.

[A]

Good.

[B]

It is Scarface rapping.

[D]

Yeah, it is Scarface.

[B]

Headlight.

[A]

I can't sleep I toss and turn candlesticks in the dark the bodies being.

[D]

Burned Four walls just staring at a.

[A]

Nigga I'm paranoid sleeping with my finger on the trigger My mama's always dressing I ain't living right but I ain't going out without a fight See, every time my eyes close I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose knife check what you want, you want, you want, you But I don't know who it is so I'm watching my back I can see him when I'm.

[D]

Deep in the cracks.

[C]

He owns a.

[A]

Black hat like I own a black suit and a Cane like I own. Some might say take a chill beat, but that shit. Cause there's a nigga trying to kill me. I'm popping in the clip when the wind blows every 20 seconds got me peeping out my window. Whoever you might be listening from out there, ho, asap.

[D]

Ho asap.

[A]

What up, what up, what up?

[C]

Around the corner.

[A]

It's fucked up when your mind's playing tricks on you.

[D]

Huh?

[B]

Who take skits like the in between?

[A]

I know what's the best in the world. Go to CH right quick. Whole New York City, whole Jersey. Oh, epic.

[B]

Talking between the records just sounded so cool.

[A]

Oh, man. Oh, no, man. Oh, no, man. Man, you had to go. Yo, yo, man, I almost can't even play it. It brings back too many memories, that, man. Man, you going in that window, You. That's what happened. You, man. Man, y' all couldn't just be outside when this was out. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All Gonna have to be honest, man, you couldn't just be outside. It wasn't no social media. You just had to watch from a window or hear about it. When you went to your aunt's house, who still lived to pick up the source? Are y' all crazy? You know what I mean. You. I was robbing when this was out.

[E]

You sure you was doing the Robin?

[A]

Just making sure you can ask about me.

[E]

I'm just making sure you know what I mean. We're not changing history here.

[A]

You can ask about me. You know how many of you niggas was just getting beat up on when this was out? This was the fucking Dust Head era. Are you crazy?

[D]

Newark on Saturday?

[C]

The wet block.

[B]

The wet block outside.

[C]

Yo, you heard that?

[A]

I didn't hear what he said.

[C]

You rob a nigga on Friday? That you and your crew slide to Newark or Saturday?

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Put on.

[A]

We can't ever say that this age bad. What happened? He said, not this one.

[C]

This one.

[A]

Yeah, you was there. You was there for this. Let's get right to it.

[B]

R was out of his mind. Yeah, this.

[A]

This don't make no sense. This makes no sen. Nah. Yo, that almost. That'll make somebody get robbed today if you keep playing. Oh, my God.

[B]

Yo, some open windows I see right now.

[A]

That right there. You kids have no idea on your little Instagrams. You guys have no clue. While you make your little tik toks.

[C]

It was a meme the other day talking about. Yo, these 15 year old kids talking about they depressed and need to see a therapist. They got 15 hours outside.

[A]

These kids have no idea. In 96 if you was hearing this, if you was hearing my voice, I was in your basement already. I had you. I found the window that your stupid ass husband left. A jar. A jar.

[C]

Oh, man. Man.

[A]

Oh, my God. Going to the good neighborhood where they ain't locked the door. All right, all right. Jesus. Thank God we alive.

[B]

Ain't going to give Marcus drop.

[A]

Thank God we alive, man. Mark.

[E]

No.

[A]

Mark. Ain't getting new. Flip, flip, flip, Flip. All right. Damn, that was great.

[B]

867 is the episode.

[A]

Bright ass, stupid lights, man. The harvest moon me up last night.

[B]

Oh, you was out there looking at it?

[A]

No, I was out there minding my business, and then I happened to look up. That was like, all right, there's something going on. Yeah, something going on up there. Last night was the first super moon. Yeah, super moon slash harvest moon, which means the moon was closer to the earth. So you saw it differently last night. And it was bright. If you looked up there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If you looked up there, they wasn't lying. Yeah, you know how to be lying sometimes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What episode is this?

[B]

867.

[A]

Welcome to episode 867. Oh, man, 8 hundreds. Classics. Classics indeed. Of the Joe Button podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Pitch. Prize Fix gang. You, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious. Really happy to be here hosting with some really amazing people. To my right, Queens get the money. Queens Flip is here to his right. Huh? Big Ish back in the building. That's that ish. You know the vibes. Next to him, Big Ice, the Freeziest of all, Mr. Take it further, is in the building next to him. Our good brother Dark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Our lighter brother Parks is here next to him. We have big Pole here. Corey is still here, fresh off a date Saturday night where he was kissing up in here. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, he was kissing. He was kissing. How you know Cory, he was kissing. Cory don't do no kissing, yo. That's why you got the on your lips right now.

[C]

You the shiny.

[D]

Yo. Cory, you trying to get your.

[E]

Og.

[A]

What the. Cory, make some noise. Cory got back in the bucket. And the kissing game crazy high five ass. It been a while kiss for hours, too. He had to catch out.

[C]

Just make it out.

[E]

He didn't make it out. I don't want. I don't want to put it in. Let me just.

[C]

Just said you was ne.

[A]

Was naked.

[C]

That's funny, son.

[E]

Out of here, Corey.

[A]

Oh, my God, man, Erickson is here.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Tanner, Savon is here. Tanner, I read the paragraph under one of them last patreons. I'mma call you later. We got to talk. We got to get some together. What's up, man? How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling?

[C]

What's popping? What's popping?

[D]

What's popping?

[C]

Good.

[A]

Feeling good. Feeling.

[C]

Feeling good.

[B]

How's your best weekend?

[A]

Great, man.

[C]

Amazing weekend.

[B]

What you did.

[C]

I went to the circus Saturday. That was fly. That was a lot of fun. And then Sunday.

[D]

That's just any circus.

[E]

No, not Universal Soul.

[D]

Universal circus.

[E]

You only do black shit.

[D]

Yeah. Let them know you want some black shit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

But nah, that. That was fire. I went three years ago. It was. It was amazing.

[A]

Took the kids.

[C]

Everybody had a good time. My mom went. She had a great time. Yo, what are they doing at the circus now? It's a lot of, like, performances.

[A]

Acrobatics like that. Little animals, clowns.

[E]

Yo, stop. What the wrong with you, bro?

[D]

I didn't tell.

[A]

Respect the circus.

[E]

The soul circus.

[C]

I know they don't have animals and no more.

[E]

It's over. Yeah, let the animals go.

[C]

But everything.

[A]

Everything else, it's n. Some in. They do the squirrels, pigeons, possums.

[D]

New York pigeons.

[A]

There are some animals. Don't do that. Don't play with free looking at the squirrels. There was no squirrel. Don't do that. Oh, they didn't bring the squirrels this time.

[C]

They got the little clowns.

[E]

They'll be.

[A]

They had. They had the clowns.

[C]

The gymnast.

[A]

Tight rope, all that clowns.

[C]

These clowns was lit, though.

[A]

I don't believe it. Was they drunk?

[C]

N. They wasn't drunk.

[A]

Now that's a show.

[B]

Were they getting.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They do a lot of the colors.

[A]

In Newark. Balancing, balancing polls.

[C]

They clown start.

[A]

Vogan. Yo.

[B]

Put the house music on with the clowns.

[A]

Y' all love jokes.

[D]

Pump the J.

[A]

Pump it up.

[E]

Why the he.

[D]

I don't want.

[A]

Freeze. Stop.

[B]

Play that stupid ass record Crazy with clowns.

[D]

Glad you had a good time, though, But.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but good time. And then Sunday, I sat back and watched my whole division lose. Yeah, sure.

[A]

Stupid ass. Want to buy? So stupid.

[C]

Perfect Week Commanders. What about y'? All?

[B]

I was upstate with the. With the homies, man. We kind of redid my bachelor party. Sort of. Kind of for everyone that could make it.

[A]

It was cool.

[B]

We just went fishing, went by the campfire, played music, got lit.

[C]

You went fishing for your bachelor party?

[B]

No, not that part. We didn't do for the bachelor party. But that's what we did this weekend.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Saw them big ass fish too.

[B]

Yeah. We was slaying the lake trout out there. Someone from up there had a little technique. He just had some copper wire on a spool. Was just dropping that in with just like a regular spoon, which is like a basic ass lure. And we were just bound. Bomb. Bomb, bomb.

[C]

You stole his technique.

[B]

I don't fish really particularly anymore.

[D]

Do y' all know how to fish?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

I don't. So I wasn't.

[C]

I love fishing. I never been fishing.

[D]

I might need to hit you up for that. I need some technique.

[C]

Super fun. No. I heard it's dope as hell. I never been though.

[D]

Yo, that's a dope.

[A]

You just fish. Maybe you should go out fishing.

[D]

We should go fishing together.

[A]

Not going fishing with y'.

[C]

All.

[E]

He probably going to watch.

[A]

I wouldn't fishing before. I've gone before.

[D]

I never been.

[B]

It doesn't seem like your bag.

[C]

Really.

[A]

No.

[C]

No. Ain't no strippers there.

[A]

Not for me.

[E]

He don't like the water.

[D]

He's scared of the water. Oh, I'm scared of water too.

[A]

After an hour too circling back for that. Said you throw your shot back, you.

[D]

Throw your bait another way.

[E]

You good.

[A]

Yo, yo, you helping us.

[C]

Nah, nah, that was just funny.

[E]

Why you wilding today about the new.

[D]

I get it.

[E]

My but you back.

[A]

That was funny.

[D]

We back.

[A]

Don't. That's your. That's your first helper. The fish don't got no bbl. Crazy over there. Man going crazy. He's still going.

[E]

What Family chill.

[D]

They listen that he good.

[C]

I'm lost.

[A]

All right. You got it. I don't want no problem what you did, Joe. Absolutely nothing.

[B]

No, I'm.

[A]

I'm recovering. I'm trying to heal. I'm trying to get better.

[B]

You're welcome.

[A]

I've been on watching the Ed G story.

[B]

Oh, is that good on that? I guess we can get that later.

[A]

But it's really creepy.

[B]

Yeah, it looks a little.

[A]

It's really creepy.

[B]

The whole skin thing.

[D]

I'm.

[A]

But if you know his story. It was creepy. Everything is creepy about it.

[B]

Leatherface, Psycho, Silas of the Lambs. All kind of based around him.

[C]

His story.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, okay. It's him.

[D]

It was a real person.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[E]

Taking on people's skins and wearing it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's creepy. Oh yeah.

[C]

No, I don't need to watch that one.

[A]

Y' all got it. Word.

[C]

That's what y' all wasn't doing?

[E]

He don't.

[A]

What's his name?

[C]

Ed Grisham.

[D]

What's his name? Yeah.

[E]

You gota. You gotta grow up. Scary movies is a part of life.

[D]

Gotta be.

[E]

No, but I'm just saying, like, I don't hate that I gotta grow up. Why do I want Maybe the toughest that talk, the smartest. Both of you, intellectual.

[A]

Oh, I don't want to watch scary movies.

[C]

Why do I want to watch a movie about a taking people's skin off, putting it on his face?

[D]

Just learn. It ain't my twist.

[E]

I'm good.

[D]

I ain't mad if people like it. It's ain't for me.

[E]

I got you.

[D]

It just ain't for me. What'd you do, Flip?

[A]

Just learn.

[E]

This weekend? Yeah, just filming, moving around. Filming? I saw Ray Quan. I saw Havoc yesterday. Hit Boy Alchemist. It was. It was nice.

[A]

That's cool.

[D]

He's in the studio with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Just filming.

[D]

You work. If he's working on something.

[E]

N. Just me and JR Just filming.

[C]

Put some shit down.

[D]

No, I'm asking.

[A]

Okay. You're a rapper.

[E]

Not anymore.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

When did you realize that rap wasn't your way?

[A]

That's a great question.

[D]

Me?

[A]

Yes. And Parks.

[B]

Oh. Once I learned how to make beats, it was over for that.

[D]

You just knew. Do you feel like you were just more talented in one area than another? And when was it you, Cuz I.

[A]

Heard you rap once. He learned to knock the food out the nigga's hand.

[D]

Yeah, well, I heard you rapping. I was like, if you worked, like, if you had committed. That's what I said. You could have been a great rapper.

[E]

That's why.

[A]

Give us eight bars right now then.

[E]

What you talking about?

[A]

Let us hear a little something.

[E]

You get first, then I get you.

[A]

Yeah, well, I'm retired.

[E]

I'm retired, too. Listen, when I realized it was a point where after the whole T Mobile thing, things got stagnant because in real time, I started to realize how. How music was evolving. So you ride the whole Get Light Feet era and that the whole Get Light chicken noodle soup wave.

[B]

Like Snap.

[A]

Yeah, that.

[E]

That propelled me locally.

[B]

You were a Snap rapper?

[E]

Well, yeah. Chicken noodle soup with the ham on the side. I had that, right. I had a couple then this T Mobile had these things you gotta pause here.

[D]

You can't just.

[C]

Parks, please find a song.

[E]

No, for real. It's called Chicken Noodle Soup. Queen's mix. It's got 3 million views on YouTube. So what I'm saying.

[D]

I Got my sleep.

[E]

But when I realized that it was just. I had to try to up.

[D]

You feel like the moment passed?

[E]

Yeah, the moment passed.

[D]

Got you.

[E]

And then being around Bino, then being around Stack and then Chinks. You try to just.

[A]

All right, the moment it's passed.

[E]

The moment it passed down. I'll bend your mic. Watch your mouth.

[A]

Whoa.

[E]

I used to say that, too.

[D]

Wait, were you in north when you say?

[E]

No, I was in North.

[A]

He was in Queens. He was in Queens. He was in North Philly when he said that.

[D]

He wasn't bending no mics in North Philly.

[A]

And please don't bend my mic. Hey, for real.

[E]

But every. Every once in a while, I do a little freestyle, and you hear me?

[D]

I heard you. I saw you put out something. I was like, oh, rap.

[A]

I think you have a music bone in your body, but I think you got a lot involved in your body.

[B]

You guys want to hear some chicken noodle soup?

[E]

No hammer.

[A]

Damn. Now I want to hear him plagiarize.

[E]

Park if you do that.

[A]

Me?

[C]

Why?

[A]

I said Lil D, Lumi D.

[B]

Don'T got no army.

[C]

What's going on?

[E]

Yeah, it's over.

[B]

Oh, there we go.

[A]

Stop.

[E]

I hate this. Turn that. Turn it off.

[A]

Yo, Queen split. Yo, I ain't going to lie to you. Let me see the dance.

[D]

Do the dance.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

AMD version, man. What's up?

[A]

Turn this off. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, my God.

[B]

That's it.

[D]

Yo, you about to get 70 million views.

[E]

That was the first stack. Was like, what?

[A]

Don't. Don't. Don't bring that up again.

[D]

Go.

[A]

I see where he was taking us, but do me a solid. Don't do that again on this broadcast.

[B]

I'mma download this.

[A]

Don't ever bring. Don't ever bring that up again.

[B]

I think that could actually be his.

[A]

Holy.

[D]

That's a good drop for.

[A]

That's a good drop with my hammer. If only I found it when I needed it.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

Yo, he sit there and hear everything. I ain't. All right, I'm done. That was my only one. I'm done now. I'm done. All right, come on. Let's get to these topics. Let's do it. Let's get to these topics. Let's have a good time. It is good to have you back.

[D]

Oh, let me just say one thing. I just wanted to know. Mark on the board.

[E]

Is that Arabic?

[D]

Is that Arabic?

[E]

Yeah, Arabic on the board. So I don't know.

[D]

Like Joe said, I slip topics in. Okay, kids, without writing them on the board. So I wrote it on the board. What's up? What's up, Mark? No, it wasn't about the board. I was gonna say, first of all, I had a good weekend. Thanks. Fuck y' all for not asking, but I dropped my Patreon today. It launched.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[D]

And so I'm very excited about it. So I took Joe's advice. Joe said, you know, we should have them. We should have that entrepreneurial spirit. So I did that. So thanks. Hopefully everybody can support it. And I appreciate y'. All. I'm assuming all y' all will sign up, so.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[D]

Thank you. Appreciate that.

[E]

You gonna get a lot of shit off over there.

[A]

I know it.

[D]

Oh, yeah. He gonna talk nice pieces about you after hearing that hammer on the side shit.

[E]

I'm down with it now.

[A]

Is the same person running it that ran your ex club. Your ex club.

[D]

I've assembled a slightly different team. I have. There's a few. You good? I got some other people.

[E]

Somebody put their foot down.

[A]

No, I'm such a shit.

[D]

My team was solid. I. I use some of the same people you use.

[A]

No, you don't.

[E]

No, you do.

[D]

Because they told me after I paid them.

[E]

No, they don't.

[D]

They were like, what's the difference?

[E]

Like, you picking me. Hey, one person.

[D]

One person got away with using people.

[E]

That I. I use. But I gatekeep down.

[D]

I understand. I understand. It's in a contract.

[A]

Aoa.

[D]

I feel you appreciate.

[B]

You have contracts with people.

[A]

You don't. Okay.

[D]

What Exactly. That's called slavery.

[A]

Yo.

[C]

Y say that's called slavery.

[A]

Every week in my house, just to have some fun. I ponder that just for a little while. It never fails.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

Flip has contract with people every week. I try to think the answer to that.

[E]

I do have contract people, and I pay them. Ah, yeah, I pay them. I pay them based event, based on case.

[A]

I. No, no, no. I don't get.

[D]

When you pay them, it's an I. I never question. I didn't hear.

[A]

He said, when you pay them, it's an event. That was funny. I'm not. I'm not worried about the pay. I'm talking about, like, the language in it. Like, I want to just read, like, a copy.

[D]

Do you draft them yourself? No.

[A]

If I hit you, part of the gig.

[E]

I got a lawyer. I know it sound. I know I talk reckless, and I.

[D]

Do a lot of.

[A]

He ain't got civil. Nothing. Nothing civil about.

[E]

I'm the most civilized person up here.

[B]

There we go.

[E]

The most civilized man Pay attention.

[D]

Anyway, speaking of lawyers, we might owe David an apology.

[C]

Who the is David?

[E]

David been gone for a while. Where the you been? In the tunnel.

[D]

I told you he was locked up. You thought I was joking?

[A]

Don't never know none of these.

[E]

Oh, you was locked up? Free you in advance.

[D]

He was going for like six episodes. Don't know no stories. Don't want to talk about his time away.

[C]

Yo, who the fuck is David?

[D]

David is an RB singer. It's been just all over the news. He was. He was accused.

[E]

Why you do that to people?

[D]

What? Stop.

[E]

We don't catch it in real time. I don't it probably do. He ignore you? Me, I gotta go back and watch you get a lot of shit off.

[D]

Can you just talk anyway?

[A]

Okay.

[D]

David is an emerging singer, well known on the Internet. His girlfriend went missing. Yes.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[D]

She was found in a car Tesla in California. The car was owned by him. They later found a tattoo written on both of their fingers. And there's some other things that tie them together romantically. While she was underage, there were certain people in the media suggesting that because of the fact that it was his car and their relationship and the fact that she was missing for over a year, some people suggest suggested that he might be guilty of killing her. I was those people, to be clear.

[A]

And me.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

All of us.

[D]

And the rest of the people who could read.

[B]

Allegedly.

[D]

Allegedly. He's alleged to have done this. I smell suspicion over time. The police never picked him up. And we were like, why would they do that? The most recent reports are suggesting that he's not a suspect, that the police are saying he is not named as a suspect. That so some people are saying, y' all gotta walk it back now. You gotta apologize to him. I'm saying let's just wait. The police didn't say he didn't do it. They didn't say they ruled him out. They said he's not a suspect. That can happen for lots of reasons, including they're still watching you to see.

[C]

If you do some stupid or lead.

[D]

Us to more bodies, lead us to more evidence, etc. So I'm not. I'm not assuming it, but the police are liars. Yeah, you said a lot. Simple.

[A]

The police are liars. The police are lying and they'll rock.

[C]

You to stop sleep.

[A]

He is a suspect. There's so much wink, wink circumstantial evidence that they have to be very, very careful with how they collect their evidence, where they get it from. And they have to be able to Prove a murder. They have to be able to prove a murder, not what looks like a murder. So they raided his house. They raided some other houses. They've already put into effect things that say they believe him to be a suspect. But I'm sure there's a loud public outcry that says why hasn't this person been arrested yet? And the best way to quiet that is to say he is no longer a person of interest or a suspect or whatever they said. But if you believe that, then I got a bridge to sell you on this street. Not even far. Yeah. No. He's 100 a suspect. Yeah. And rightfully so. And every week this story gets stranger and stranger.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Every. Every time I think there's no more that can make it strange, something else happened and make it strange. Like apparently he was running around with a girl that looked exact. A girl that looked exactly like the Celeste girl after she supposedly had vanished. So timelines are funny. Now, remember last week or two weeks ago, I said there was some other singer that they said was David. So they. There. There are facts or things lingering that could just muddy the waters. And the girl really do look like her. So I mean, you introducing body doubles, stunt doubles. There's a lot of going on here. So I totally expect the police to take their time with what is, what will be somewhat of a high profile case.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That means all eyes on them. Them.

[B]

Yeah, you can't it.

[A]

That means all eyes on them.

[C]

Even how they gather the information and the evidence and all of that could be. If they do it wrong, it could not be evidence and up the case. And what I was reading right now, the only thing that they could do is the concealment of the body. And that charge is a misdemeanor out there.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, well, that's like abuse of a corpse, all those kind of.

[C]

It's like that ain't what we on. So we need to take our time so we can get this the right way.

[A]

If he did it, we do it.

[D]

I do want to say that he's innocent until proven proving guilty. He deserves presumption of innocence. It looks mighty suspicious to me. But he deserves a fair trial. He deserves everything that everybody else.

[A]

That's like some American Constitution that we have to say, right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

But people pick and choose what they say about.

[A]

All right, let's try it. Let me use me. If there happened to be a dead body and in the trunk of a vehicle that was registered to me, if I didn't do it, I know someone that Did, Right.

[B]

It's involved somehow.

[A]

Somehow I loaned my key one day to somebody who had ill intention. Somehow in this.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I am involved.

[D]

You got some explaining.

[A]

I'm just trying to find out how and what that is. But to say we just don't know and he's innocent and. And it's gone, That's a crock of shit.

[B]

Yeah. Not to mention the fact the whole dating minor thing, like they're still. Even if he maybe didn't cause physical harm to this girl, still is guilty of something.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[D]

Let me ask you another question about this. Thinking about First Amendment. He has a song called Romantic Homicide.

[C]

But they said the song was done way before.

[D]

But some people suggested that he's had some mental health issues, that he's been thinking about doing this kind of thing.

[E]

That's why he made the record.

[D]

My point isn't that. Does this make you think differently about using lyrics as evidence? Like if people have songs and music that suggest crimes or admit to crimes.

[C]

Or whatever, what happens is where do we draw the line? Especially when it comes to hip hop. Because in hip hop, violence, guns, murder, all of those things unfortunately have been a topic in hip hop, you know what I'm saying? So now in that particular instance, yeah, it may be applicable, but where do we draw the line when we start trying to prosecute all these kids?

[D]

Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm. I'm of the position that we shouldn't.

[A]

Use them same, by the way.

[D]

But it's tempting.

[B]

I'm of the position that we should use them. If they say, hey, I killed so and so on such and such.

[D]

In my city of Philly, like, there's a lot of these young drill rappers that have admitted committed to crimes and locations and dates and times.

[A]

And if, but see, my thing is, if that's true, then you don't need the lyrics.

[D]

Right. Fair. Right. Just use it. Just use that as an invest. Yeah.

[B]

I don't think it also should be.

[C]

You still might need the lyrics.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Because the lyrics is the one that says what, what. What led you to go to this location to check for whatever.

[B]

I don't think it should be.

[A]

Back to the lyrics.

[B]

I don't think it should be the only or main evidence, by the way. But I think that if you have some other proof that he may or someone may or may not have done something and then in the song they're saying, hey, I did this thing. I think that that should be admissible in some level. I don't think it should be the only evidence. I don't think it should be the evidence that puts it away.

[C]

But chopped his hands off. Put them under the steps. You just go look under the steps and it's a pair of hands right there.

[D]

It's like, yeah, we do have to.

[A]

Bring you in for some questioning. Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

It can lead to slippery slop. I mean we mentioned in Biggie. That's a good example, right? If. If a kid. Kid is kidnapped and thrown over the bridge. You know what I mean?

[C]

Say the lyrics.

[D]

And I'm not going to say the lyrics. But my point is I'm not just going to go looking for gutter. What I'm saying is that could start you on a. On a quest for something that's not true.

[A]

And he thinks wasn't like. Like that wasn't happening in Newark. Yo, one day y' all will come to grips with some of the things that these tough was into. The Biggie lyric is just a highlight. Yes. That's what they. Where's the bridge?

[C]

Brooklyn.

[A]

Yeah, that's not nor at all talk about. Y' all don't ever want to have the Biggie talk. But never mind.

[D]

We've. We've had it. You didn't persuade me, but I was. I didn't think what you said was as far fetched as some people thought.

[E]

You had it already.

[A]

You down with me? You down with me. You can't say it publicly because you speak at colleges, but you down with me.

[C]

Speak at college.

[A]

Down with me.

[B]

Still one of the greatest rappers ever.

[A]

Facts. Yes, facts. Listen, the greatest rappers ever was either bisexual or come from somebody bisexual.

[D]

Well, I have no comment on that. But you're right. Anyways, any who's speaking of speaking at colleges, it's this morning.

[A]

Carry the one. That's what I'm saying. My top fives, you know what I mean? In my top five, they hold down at least three of the slots.

[C]

They got three slowed up.

[A]

Wait, like loud, like obvious. I don't even know why it should be taboo.

[B]

You going to sprinkle a little offspring in there too, cuz?

[A]

Oh, if you're doing that, oh, I'm out of here.

[D]

Moving on. Saturday Live was amazing. Didn't y' all see Saturday Night Live?

[A]

If you do, they had the top 10. They got the top at least seven of the top 10. Go ahead. Saturday Night Live.

[D]

So did y'. All. Did y' all watch it?

[A]

Is there anything more Hip hop based that we.

[D]

I was saying anything to get out this conversation. Thank you. I just literally read what was next.

[A]

Well, let's get to Mark Sanchez then. That's hip hop.

[D]

Oh, no, that's more stabbing.

[C]

Yeah, that ain't hip hop.

[D]

I mean, SNL for me was bad Bonnie, but. Yeah.

[B]

What the happened with Mark Sanchez this weekend?

[A]

Yeah, Mark Sanchez is the tea.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, it's a crazy case. Anybody want to break it down? But basically he was involved in a parking lot. As I understand.

[A]

Mark Sanchez was in Indianapolis for the Colts Raiders game.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because you know, Mark Sanchez is an analyst. There was a pickup truck in an alley with a 69 year old man whose job it is to pick up the used oil.

[B]

Okay. From the restaurants.

[A]

From the restaurants.

[E]

Big business.

[B]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Huge business. Huge business. Shout out to this man, man. So he's back there minding his business, trying to get the oil. Mark Sanchez buses in the car and just I guess there was a conversation had. Maybe the old. The 69 year old man wears earpieces, but didn't have them in at the time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Just another fact to take the note so we. Who knows if they talked or not, but them niggas got the tussling. Mark Sanchez starts attacking him. Him homeboy pepper sprays him. By his account, that didn't seem to work. So he stabbed him multiple times. And, and, and Mark Sanchez also stabbed this gentleman. The picture of the victim is circulating all over the net. Mark Sanchez was arrested immediately from the hospital, which gave this a different view, like, because. Right, because at first all we heard was, was Mark Sanchez in a stack. He's stabbed. So all of the people, oh my God. We hope Mark is okay. He was praying.

[D]

Jason Whitley was praying for him. What happened?

[A]

Tomorrow, we're praying for him. But as it turns out, he was the drunk guy coming out of a bar. There's footage now of him staggering after the event, full of blood.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[A]

Just going home. Like this was just a regular. Another regular night blood off over him. So safe to say Mark Sanchez probably won't have his anal analyst job anymore. Yeah, I don't see that happening.

[D]

Yeah, this is where the footage is so important because like you said, I mean, he's famous. He was the one stabbed. He could have just controlled the narrative. But when that footage came out, it was a rap.

[B]

Totally different because that sounds crazy. You're fighting elderly or 69 year old. That probably qualifies as elderly, right?

[A]

No, that's elderly.

[B]

69, he's a professional athlete.

[A]

Drunk.

[B]

Yeah, this is. This is all bad.

[D]

And that's where you people underestimate how fit and extraordinary professional athletes are.

[C]

Because they play quarterback? No. Some of the be in tip top shape.

[D]

Should all of them six, four?

[A]

Yeah, all of them are in tip top shape.

[C]

Man.

[A]

Who want to scrap with Mark Sanchez.

[C]

On just a regular world class minding my business. I don't want to fight with you. Yeah, let me get my oil drunk.

[A]

With him and me get my oil. Ain't none of your business at all. You just drunk busting up in the pickup truck. I can't hear you, cuz I left my home. I don't think that's about to turn into something right.

[B]

That's crazy, man.

[C]

I keep that poker.

[A]

You know, my mom said she just drove to Brooklyn the other day. Forgot she didn't have a contact center.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

What she made?

[C]

Oh yeah. Her description ain't bad.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

She made it by the grace of God.

[C]

God prescription ain't bad.

[A]

No, she said she was blind as a bat. Just.

[C]

I can't leave a house.

[B]

I wouldn't make it very far.

[A]

Really? I don't know nothing about context.

[C]

Prescription not bad.

[A]

You can't leave the house without your contest, cuz.

[B]

What you would notice.

[C]

I can't see.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Before I got.

[A]

I can't see.

[D]

Is that your. Is that your natural eye color? What? I don't.

[A]

What? That's a valid question.

[D]

I don't. I've met you for a year. I know you for a year.

[C]

Washing your head with.

[A]

But it's.

[C]

You know, you've done everything to answer the question.

[A]

I known him for 20 years.

[C]

I don't know me well enough to.

[A]

Know I ain't walk.

[D]

You say you never leave the house without him, so I wouldn't know.

[A]

And you come from the era where that was flocked.

[D]

That's what everybody did.

[C]

You look like one of them that had some gray eyes.

[D]

No.

[C]

You thought about it.

[D]

I bet you did.

[A]

I thought about it. I was there for the era.

[D]

I can see him doing it.

[A]

I thought about it. I wouldn't have did that. I would have did whatever. Follow me.

[D]

Follow me.

[E]

This is bad.

[D]

Play with my man again. You ass.

[C]

That was you?

[D]

Oh, man.

[E]

He was doing the walk and flip.

[D]

They was a crew though. So you know they was doing the same.

[A]

Who was the crew?

[D]

Y' all two.

[C]

They know that in no 90s he.

[A]

Always been that right?

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

I was robbing people and in the 90s, beating people up. In the 90s he was a pretty boy.

[D]

You was wearing the bell bottoms in the house.

[A]

If I know him in the 90s, he would have robbed him. Robbed him? I took all that nautical.

[C]

You would have gotten shot.

[A]

I took all that nautical off.

[D]

You was rocking Nordica do.

[A]

Yeah, all that.

[D]

He'll figure he was trying to kill us before when we said we was.

[A]

Wearing too cool for.

[D]

We had the iceberg. We had the you like him is.

[A]

How we got our iceberg.

[C]

No, it ain't.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

I don't know what type of. That's how we got our biggest.

[E]

Every time you rob come over here, he get new outfits. Come over, get robbed again.

[A]

Right in here.

[B]

I thought you mean it's boosting days.

[C]

All of that depend on what 90s got you. Early 90s was Nordica. Tommy Jabo polo.

[D]

You right.

[C]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Robbing the out you booty boosters. I know you boost the. Had to be careful where you wore that, Joe. Go make your money, dog. Don't put it on, Joe.

[C]

I was out. I was outside.

[A]

Go make your money.

[C]

I was outside.

[A]

Don't put it on. I'm not calling you.

[C]

I'm just saying I was. I was. And I was wearing all my boosted to foxes and ain't nothing happened.

[A]

That's not true, Joe. That's not true.

[C]

Have you noticed that little dark skinned Bayonne girl I had? Goodness gracious.

[A]

Meta riding foxes deal we and foxes. I wasn't robbing nobody.

[C]

He was getting robbed.

[A]

That's it. Hey, hey, chill out. I only got robbed eight times. I don't know who he talking to. He got me up.

[C]

You talking the wrong that ninth time I tore it.

[A]

I only got robbed. How many times I got rob an expert. You always do this. You're like, yeah, yeah, I do know drill. Wait, you joining in? They let me keep my clothes.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

What'S up?

[A]

They let me keep my clothes on. My testicles out. I have my box, man. See, I love this. This good guy energy.

[E]

Got a lot of money in your pocket too, boy. Don't throw that on the floor again.

[A]

Will take that.

[D]

No, they won't take that from you.

[E]

Do it again.

[D]

Take that. Will take that from you, boy.

[A]

And he left you something. One bill.

[B]

That's your tip.

[A]

He used to do that in the club.

[E]

Throw it in the middle of floor.

[A]

Corny. You want a corny. Lights out pocket.

[D]

Put it on the.

[E]

The orange pill.

[A]

Oh, my. Drop rubber bands on his knot. Put your money up, man.

[D]

I know those.

[A]

Put your money up.

[C]

That's how Your brain.

[A]

Only your brain even went there.

[D]

That do that.

[A]

Only your brain even went there.

[B]

Yo, that's true.

[A]

You right.

[C]

They could be having a gun, make the gun fall out they pocket on purpose. Hell, yeah.

[A]

You identify.

[B]

We got some real 90 today, man.

[A]

How do y' all take that? If y' all dap somebody up and you. And you can feel the heat on them. Pause.

[B]

Whoa, whoa.

[D]

That depend on what a person. It depend on who it is. It depend on who it is.

[E]

It's my man. I'm not gonna feel. Anyway.

[A]

You don't know him best. Where we at?

[B]

That's a very important question.

[D]

The most question.

[C]

You got to assess the source. No, you got to assess the environment.

[A]

Not your man. Your man is out here. Where y' all at? Somewhere you both are familiar with.

[B]

It's fine.

[E]

Yeah, I was feel. No way I pick.

[C]

Let me last question. Like, y' all got a decent rapport. He might not be your man, but y' all got a decent rapport.

[B]

He gave me that.

[C]

So you don't know. I'm like.

[A]

Like, no.

[B]

Oh, why you.

[A]

Y' all are cordial.

[C]

You just know him by face.

[A]

Yeah, you just cordial. You seen him before. Y'. All. Y' all speaking?

[C]

Yeah, I might. I might be gone. Yeah, I'm. I'm out of there.

[E]

Yeah, you know, give him a pound.

[D]

No, I'm adapting.

[E]

I'm saying. Then you gonna leave?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm out of there. A pound and go.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. No, I'm planning my exit.

[A]

Seriously, how often do y' all think y' all are around firearms that y' all don't know about?

[C]

A lot.

[A]

All the time.

[B]

A lot.

[A]

Give me. Give me percentages. We. There's an audience listening.

[C]

75, 80%.

[D]

5%. At this stage of my life, I don't go places where I. Yeah, you.

[C]

Don'T really be socially out. Like. But if you go to a urban.

[D]

Place, they in there.

[A]

Wait.

[D]

I just don't go to spots where they got.

[A]

Here.

[D]

He got in the trunk, you know.

[A]

With a lot of words to scare.

[E]

Yeah, you got in the trunk.

[A]

It's okay.

[D]

I just don't go out.

[A]

Fuck both of y'. All.

[B]

They don't be on campus like that. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Yeah, them jeans shouldn't be everywhere.

[D]

You know what? He's making a point. I be on campus and motherfuckers bring guns to campus. Yeah, you're probably more than that. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[A]

You gotta count that. Yeah.

[D]

Then that jumps up to, like, 30%.

[E]

I say 50 for me.

[A]

Yeah, it's even higher than that with them campuses. 80%. Freeze. Freeze. Give it to me.

[C]

It's probably 80. 85%.

[A]

80, 85% parks. Give it to me. Jimmy.

[C]

I just think about it. I know I didn't get search coming in here. I don't be carrying word. And I know if I got the rapport with and they ain't searching me. That's the thing. Some got it in here. That's the thing.

[A]

Silence, please. Or freeze.

[E]

You just not like that.

[A]

Maybe Joe yo, he thinking that they not searching him down.

[D]

Oh, that's.

[E]

That's healthy. He coming to fix the stereo.

[A]

Hold, wait, wait now.

[E]

No, freeze. Watch out.

[A]

Free watch. Don't freeze. Anyway, listen, man, it's time for him. I love that said I don't give a. That's my main yeah, cuz I go a lot of places too. They don't search me. But in my head I don't be like, yeah, I got the clout.

[E]

It's like no, he said. He said if they don't search me.

[C]

I know that is what you say.

[E]

I don't think Freeze was saying now.

[A]

He tapped his no, that's what you say. That is not what I if you.

[C]

Don'T get searched, why you think you ain't getting searched?

[A]

Cuz he's Joe Button, which is not.

[C]

I got the clock out.

[A]

I'm saying I don't think that they think that even if I had something on me, I'm coming in here to do something. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

That's not what I'm saying.

[D]

He yeah, I'm saying I was trying.

[A]

To get you to say what I'm saying.

[C]

I'm not saying that what are you saying?

[A]

But you got to say what I'm saying.

[C]

I don't have to say what you say.

[A]

You think they think that you about if you bump.

[C]

It's not about me. He said that's not what I'm saying at all.

[A]

All who in here thinks that when they walking up to the spot security thinks y' all about to get crazy.

[E]

Nobody.

[D]

Only Cory's hand is up here.

[C]

Not for nothing. And it really depend on who I'm with. I could say that for ice too, depending on who he with.

[A]

I now that now I can say advice. Cuz I seen him with some that didn't look safe standing in the circle circle protecting them too. Them was I got Freeze talk to these outside.

[E]

Don't let this play with these.

[A]

Is part of like organized groups that cause chaos. Both of them.

[C]

Yo, yo, what you doing?

[A]

You good? It is time. It's time for our favorite rat show.

[D]

But you would.

[E]

Last part, you would say that.

[A]

You would say that about everybody in here except for me. Actually.

[E]

Last part, you were saying.

[D]

Yes, it is.

[C]

No, it's not.

[D]

Say what?

[A]

That each of you look like when you leave here. You could be a part of an organized group that causes chaos somewhere.

[E]

Last time, you were saying that you want more organized groups, you was telling Mark that. That you want organized groups. There's black people.

[A]

So I'm a fan of organized groups.

[E]

So you promote that. So why you.

[A]

Even though they got the Black MAGA niggas running up on the hbcu.

[C]

What they do?

[A]

Oh, I hope they get their ass. Anybody seen this?

[E]

No.

[D]

All right, then.

[A]

I ain't bringing it up. Then bring it up. We'll research it.

[C]

No, seriously, they not doing nothing. They trying to.

[A]

They're trying to incite.

[C]

They're trying to incite when over low key.

[A]

Yo, they got to stop involving the schools and saying we trying to get people to see our point of view. No, y' all are trying to incite some.

[D]

So they send the black bag of people.

[C]

That's crazy.

[D]

That's how you earn their trust, too.

[C]

Gotta get out there in the field.

[D]

Look, nagger, you want to be part of this?

[C]

Like, look what y'. All.

[A]

Look, he look. He know it.

[D]

He got the brochure.

[C]

101. They recruited Mark be all that you.

[A]

Yo. All right, now it's time for Prize Picks. God damn it. That's it. That's it. We got Prize picks for you. And the Joe and Freeze ticket by our account, depending on where you flexed, who freeze.

[C]

Now, if you play the Flex. You hate Flex. Just means you got to hit two out of three.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You hit when you play the Flex.

[C]

We hit.

[A]

We hit.

[C]

Hollywood Brown and Travis Kelce both hit.

[A]

Stop playing with our picks, man. We hit. And we got more fire for you. Ready right now. Yo, Dion. Oh, I'll come out of the break with this. All right. Prize Picks. All right, some of you out there are wondering, what is Prize Picks? Well, goddammit, I'm here to tell you this episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. You and I make decisions every day. But on Prize Picks, being right can get you paid. So don't miss out on any of the excitement this football season on Prize Picks, where it's good to be right. Prize Picks now offers stacks, meaning you can pick the same player up to three times in the same lineup. Want to pick more on Josh Allen's passing yards, rush yards and touchdowns. Now you can pick all of them in the same lineup only on prize you are alive.

[C]

Wait, when they start that.

[A]

Oh, y' all excited?

[C]

What?

[D]

They thirsty? Fuck excited.

[A]

No, I know how they get on it. Yeah, that's this month.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

This motherfucker.

[C]

Say less prospect.

[A]

You're what? I guess Yalls reaction is why they put this in there. That is important to note though.

[C]

No, cuz what happens you couldn't do it.

[A]

So I get it.

[C]

I'mma explain to the to the people.

[E]

Let him finish his ad, y'.

[C]

All. No, what that meant was like if you took Derrick Henry, right, for over 50 yards, you couldn't then take Derrick Henry for one touchdown. You had to pick one or the other other. Now they are allowing you to. That's fire.

[A]

That's what I just said.

[C]

They might not know that.

[A]

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[B]

Fantasy since he just got Joe Flowers Taco.

[A]

Oh yeah, Really? I think the Raiders should trade for Shador.

[B]

Old as hell.

[A]

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[D]

Right?

[A]

We got a lot of sports. Sports. We got a lot of sports up here. Actually. Aisha Curry said some things. Isha's telling me Cam Newton said some things. Of course, Mark wrote Bronnie up there. Before we get to any of it, I have something I want to uncover for you guys. Pause. This is coming from the same guy that told you during the pandemic that they were cheating us on the amount of toilet paper they were putting on the rolls. Okay, this is coming from that same guy. Okay, cuz y' all know my back is up and I bought some Icy Hot. The Other day. It's not our granddad's Icy Hot.

[C]

They stepped on the Icy Hot.

[A]

They stepped on the door. They stepped on the door.

[C]

Who buys Icy Hot?

[A]

I do. Athletes.

[C]

You from the hood.

[A]

I know. Which means I never thought I'd run out of my tub of Icy Hot.

[C]

No, you got to get the tiger.

[E]

Tiger ball.

[D]

Tiger ball him in the hood.

[C]

I bet you a step on that. Should have burned your skin off. That's tiger bone.

[A]

I use tiger bone for other things. And gold bond. Follow me, follow me.

[D]

Sensational.

[C]

You gotta get Tiger Bomb. Yo. The little. You gotta go to the hood. That is. That should have burned your skin off, bro.

[A]

Yeah, they stepping on icy.

[C]

I believe you.

[A]

It's not the Icy Hot that we could smell in another room.

[C]

Really.

[A]

This is.

[B]

I don't know what they doing.

[A]

I see out now and they come in like a deodorant roll on. It ain't the where. Hey, there's a certain ways you got to use Icy Hot. I want to put my hand in the thing, get a glob and wash.

[C]

Your hair for five minutes.

[A]

Yeah, I think that's how we should use. I don't know what they to make it like modern and efficient.

[C]

Touch free. Icy Hot deodorant. Icy Hot.

[A]

It don't have a smell to it or nothing. It's corny and it just kind of numb the area. The old would heal the old. Your bones almost couldn't even grow back together right. Without the old. This is. Yeah, that was going to burn you.

[C]

Burn you.

[A]

You was going to feel it. Oh, you'll feel it. Anyway. It's stepping on ici, Joe. Sorry. Hate to be the very bad news. On to sports. Which one of these sports topics do you want to attack first?

[B]

You want to do LeBron first?

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say you are.

[A]

A piece of LeBron James. LeBron James, I love Hennessy, did some promo where he sat down and said this is the second decision playing off of his boys club Miami Heels decision that he made made in whatever year that was 2013.

[D]

I don't remember 2010.

[A]

I think it's great marketing somewhere.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

That was great.

[C]

Whatever.

[A]

Now because LeBron is old as shit, people are waiting for some type of retirement announcement or retirement clue or something. And he knows that. So now he's about to be a jerk. You're going to try because stupid people like me thought that. Okay, this makes sense. With the timing season about to start. No way he'll start the season without letting us know that this is his Retirement season. What a way to right the wrong with the. He got me. It worked on me.

[D]

It didn't work on me. We talked a couple weeks ago and I was saying I don't think he would announce his retirement this close to the season because I think the league would want to coordinate like where the home games are, where the rogate to really maximize announcing this close to the.

[A]

Season doesn't tell me the league doesn't know. I could be coordinated with them behind the scene. And this is the public announcement.

[D]

See, I think there's. He's. From what I'm hearing, and you may know more about this than me because he's not that like tight with the league right now. Yeah, okay, so that's why I wouldn't think that. But I just also think that this was so predictable. Like when you see that thing. Of course that was what I'm supposed to think. So I'm like, he's gonna try and throw us off. Also, I don't think he's gonna retire. After watching Bryce the other night, I think he's gonna wanna wait and see if Bryce has a shot in the league.

[C]

No, he's gone to the league. It's just a matter of when he goes to the league.

[D]

That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about in his span. Like he can't wait four years, but he could wait one. If he goes after his first year. I think he'd want to play with both of his sons. I have a sneaky suspicion Bryce would get drafted by the Lakers too. So I think he might want to see that. He want.

[C]

Look, if he put me and my two sons on the Lakers.

[B]

That's crazy. And salute.

[C]

Just throwing this shit up.

[A]

Oh, then I definitely don't want to hear about Michael Jordan and his crack sniffing son. Yeah, it was coke. Crack on the whatever, you know. He smoking crack.

[E]

No, he didn't.

[A]

Michael Jordan son smoke crack?

[D]

We don't know that. We're just joking, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Allegedly.

[D]

We don't know. We don't do that.

[A]

We don't know. Well, he had crack on him.

[C]

He had coke on him.

[A]

Coke.

[C]

It's not crack.

[A]

With some crack. With some crack too.

[D]

I hate y'.

[A]

All. I love that from Ishes. Error will still make the distinction. As if public perception is like they savvy enough to know. No, no, no, no, no crack verse.

[D]

Coke.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[D]

One is worse than the other. They not worse than another.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

But in Public perception. One is worse in real world. One is worse.

[E]

Yeah, one. One did more damage.

[C]

Are you crazy?

[B]

Did you guys see the Kodak Black Method Mission?

[D]

No.

[A]

The what?

[B]

I don't be on meth. I tried it, though, though. Everybody be mf. Y' all just really want to have something against me. And at first I thought that was funny, but I was like, wait, Adderall and all that shit is really kind of meth.

[C]

They said it's one thing one molecule away from meth.

[B]

He's not all the way wrong.

[D]

See, I think Adderall is being one step short of coke. We used to call it Diet Coke.

[C]

I heard that, too.

[D]

Yeah, but, you know, drugs are bad.

[A]

Don't do drugs.

[D]

Yeah. Don't do drugs. Question. Question for y'. All.

[A]

Is this the first.

[D]

Is this the. Is this the year that we can judge Bronny? Cause last year, y' all on everybody's ass. Y' all on me for being critical. At what point can we assess him without being seen? Without seeing being seen, like bullies or haters or whatever? I'm not saying good or bad. We could turn out to say he's the greatest player ever, but I'm saying, what. When is it fair to judge this young man as a bas. As an NBA basketball player? Cause I saw some highlights the first couple preseason games, or at least one, and I gave me thoughts.

[A]

Asking the question as if you've been looking for the line to get on back. This is the sick part about it. Hey, where's the. It's all right to hate on this little line?

[D]

I don't want to hate on him. I just want to fairly assess him. Because last year, when I said I don't think he's a. He didn't look like a pro to me. He looked like an NBA pro. I mean, he obviously is a G league player and a good one. Watching the preseason this year, I wasn't. I'm not that encouraged. But I wish him the best. I hope he turns out to be great.

[A]

But, Mark, you also not a Laker fan.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

Like, you really invested in their business.

[D]

I'm a Laker observer, though. Like, there's a few teams, I watch most of their games. Sixers, I watch every game. Knicks, I watch most of their games. Lakers, I watch most of their games. So just. Cause, you know, growing up and then with Kobe, like, I've always loved to watch the Lakers, and I love J.J. redick. I really, you know, as a coach, so I watch him. But I'm Wondering, like, is this the.

[B]

Team for the coach? Is funny.

[D]

Well. Cause I know J.J. redek. You know what I mean? So it's like, I'm rooting for him more than I rooting for the coach. Same thing with the Hawks. I'm rooting for Lloyd Pierce. Like, so when he was the head coach, like, is that kind of thing. And now the Pacers. Do y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

Do y' all feel like this is the year to judge Bronny?

[A]

He's in the league, so you can judge him. I mean, I just think it says something with the way that you judge this guy's kid.

[D]

It's judging some guy's kid. This ain't about LeBron.

[C]

It is about.

[A]

Unfortunately, a lot of people. It is about LeBron.

[C]

It's about LeBron.

[D]

No, what I mean is it's not gonna have something against LeBron. I love LeBron. You know what I mean? And I think Bronnie's a great kid. Kid.

[A]

Just.

[D]

You all going to get quiet?

[C]

I'm trying to put.

[B]

I was waiting for the hate.

[D]

There's no hate.

[E]

I just feel like.

[A]

Because he's lying.

[D]

No, I. Well, I do think he's a great kid, and I do love LeBron. I. I was the person who thought he should stay in college. Should stay in college. And I was the person that said that his upside. In fact, my very first time here as a guest, I said, like, I think his upside is an NBA rotation player, like a Gary Payton ii, that kind of a thing. But that would require more seasoning. Four years of college, I think that's still an upside. I've been watching him play. He's getting better. But I. When I watched him, even in his preseason, I'm still not convinced, But I'm like, it feels like last year, you couldn't say that without being a hater. I'm like, can we say it this year?

[A]

I think.

[C]

I think you still can't say it because you said it so much last year as a hater, that people just.

[A]

Going to be like, all right, you.

[C]

Still just trying to get your hate off, right?

[D]

And I'm. And I'm not. But I think don't turn around.

[E]

I mean, it takes more time for things to turn around. If you. If you consider him to play that.

[A]

You consider him as.

[E]

It takes more time. It doesn't take a couple of months.

[D]

Yeah, it could be a few years.

[E]

How many.

[D]

It could be a few years.

[C]

You're right.

[D]

I'm saying you're right.

[E]

If you feel that way yeah. So you should give him a fair assessment.

[D]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, I'd say give him some time too. Especially because you're such a big Caitlyn Clark fan. Like, you can't just bash young black boys like this.

[D]

Well, Caitlyn was good, though.

[A]

And then look at this guy.

[D]

Ms. Caitlyn can play Miss Caitlin, you.

[C]

Want to shout out AJ Wilson.

[D]

I do want to shout out Asia Wilson, first of all, because you ain't said a word.

[A]

She won her fourth mvp.

[D]

You've been real time I mentioned wnba. Y' all make fun of me.

[E]

No, we want to champion black women.

[D]

Started feeling safe.

[A]

We want to champion black women up here, though.

[D]

That's for sure. There's one thing we gonna do. Asia Wilson, shout out to you fourth mvp. And I mean, I love y'. All.

[A]

I don't with him. I don't with him at all.

[D]

Speaking of black women, what's Aisha Curry? I've seen her in the news a lot.

[C]

What happened there?

[D]

Isha could break it down.

[C]

No, no, no. I. I don't have the full gamut. They said basically she's.

[B]

She goes on every media opportunity and makes it sound. Well to people that want to analyze it this way, that she's unhappy or didn't ever want to be married or blah, blah, blah.

[D]

She goes on a tour and back. The narrative is that she embarrasses her husband at turn.

[C]

Is that not what she said?

[D]

Let's. Let's play the clip first and see what she said. I'mma find the clip.

[A]

But to. To you married brothers, like, is that just part of marriage? Like your partner having a voice? Cuz I'm cool with marrying my psycho partner, but we be in the crib with it. I listen to that. But if they could just say some and then the world here.

[C]

Yo, you ain't might ain't get the 3, 400 yet.

[E]

The 3, 400 million he's talking about.

[A]

Oh, yeah. He don't give a. Yeah, this don't care at all. At all.

[C]

No, he cares.

[A]

I don't think he does.

[C]

He cares.

[A]

I think he care.

[C]

I think while you look for the clip, I think Aisha Curry is who y' all try to paint Sierra to be.

[D]

Say more.

[C]

Yeah, people constantly say Sierra's with Russell because this is not the dude she wants.

[A]

She.

[C]

She just settled for him.

[A]

She was.

[C]

Wants you cooking ice the bad boy and all this other. And she seems to really be happy and really be this person with a cookbook, though. He is thinking that Aisha Curry is All of that y' all say about Sierra applies to Aisha Curry cooking with a cookbook.

[A]

Who you heard say that? You get that? You got that from. That was fire.

[D]

Get that.

[A]

He ain't come up with that. Fire.

[B]

Fire.

[E]

Watch your mouth.

[A]

Heard that somewhere. That was a good one.

[C]

That was. I'm not. Does anybody know how long.

[A]

Let's hear the clip first.

[D]

High school. Yeah. Always knew you wanted a big family.

[A]

No, hey, before I play this clip, this is her on call. Call. Call her daddy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or call me daddy. Yeah, you know the one.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Which?

[D]

Two very different shows.

[A]

No, it's the same show. The. That went and got the money. You know who it is? The one that left a partner and fucking took off. Yeah, took off. Left a partner working at Whole Foods. No, no, no.

[C]

Partner left. Partner thought she was Aisha and left Steph alone. And Steph went up there.

[A]

So they came out, the partner was fighting for how she was being treated at the company, and she got the bad end of the step. That's why I keep telling Mark about fighting for your rights. Sometimes you get them. Sometimes. There you go.

[C]

Here go your rights.

[A]

No, but listen, all I want to say about. Hey, women that go on that podcast, it seemed like, oh, yeah, that's their.

[B]

Place to get their off.

[A]

They getting their off up there, man. What? Shouldn't women be allowed to have their space?

[C]

Yes, yes.

[B]

The she shed.

[A]

Before I play the clip.

[C]

The kitchen.

[A]

All right, yo, and they calling me.

[C]

This nigga said the she should.

[A]

Before I play the clip, I just want to hear where y' all stand at. Shouldn't women have their space? Where they get to go talk? They womanly, girly, woman empowerment shit.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like uninterrupted, like we do here.

[D]

Everybody deserves a space.

[C]

Yeah. Yes.

[A]

But.

[C]

But what happens is when you say that in your space and you are popular figure. Good for you, then that shit gonna come out, and you can't control what comes out to the media. And I also think that, yeah, you should be able to have your space, but you. You should also have some reservations if it's gonna make your significant other look stupid.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I think a lot of these empowered ones.

[A]

Let me play the. Let me played. It played.

[B]

You think they're disobedient.

[D]

Did you always knew you wanted a big family?

[A]

No.

[D]

No. So I. I didn't want kids.

[A]

I. I didn't want to get married. I.

[D]

Career girl. That's it. And I had my eyes set on.

[A]

My goals, and I was never the little girl that, like, Dreamt about the wedding dress and all of that.

[D]

And then it happened.

[A]

Happened so early in my life. So it's like. It's one of those things, like, you don't. You don't know what you. You actually don't know what you want.

[D]

It's so hard also to be the woman in a situation where you're like, yeah, like, they can maybe tell him.

[A]

Sorry, shots suck tonight.

[D]

But, like, though that is just, like, not a factor of conversation as much.

[A]

No.

[D]

Did you talk to Steph about it.

[A]

Like, or did you kind of keep it within yourself? So it didn't. I have. I do not have kids.

[D]

Did you always knew you wanted a big family?

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, she go further because she's ghost.

[D]

Because that right there is not bad to me.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Everything she said.

[C]

No, she was just saying she tried to talk to him. He just don't understand because he's like, but we got everything. Like, that's my question.

[A]

Go get a job.

[C]

I disagree with that.

[D]

So again, slow down.

[A]

I think we having a lot of conversations.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

All right, go ahead. So Corey. Corey said, yo, what the fuck you gonna go do? And I said, yeah, that part.

[B]

She can go get a job.

[C]

I disagree with that piece. I disagree with that piece. I think that there is power in you going out, earning your keep, whatever the case may be. It's some fulfillment there.

[A]

And they got fly sewing machines. And now you ain Williamson with the laser.

[E]

With the laser.

[A]

You got the. With the triple needle.

[E]

Good job, man.

[C]

Yo, and they call me the Massage.

[B]

It's easier ever to go grocery shopping now, sir.

[C]

Nah, I disagree. I think that. I think that there is. When you get in a relationship that young, I think that she could potentially feel like she missed out on a big part of the world. I'm dead serious when I say that. Like, yo, you going to college or you sending your resume out, you going on interviews, and then you outside working. It's something to experience. And if you never experienced it, I could see where there would be some lack of fulfillment there.

[E]

She sound like she living in regret.

[D]

See, I didn't hear that.

[B]

I don't get that.

[C]

No, but that's not on that one clip.

[D]

I heard the other. That's why I wanna separate the two things out. Right. What she said there, I think was quite reasonable. They asked her if she saw herself in this place, and she said, no, I had these other plans for myself, who I would be in the world, what I would do. And then I got into this relationship so young. She said, you never Know where you're going to end up basically saying you make plans and then life happens and they go in a different direction. It didn't even sound like a complaint to me. It sounded like she was just saying shit happens in life that you don't anticipate. And I think if you ask the average 16 year old or 18 year old, I agree. What they want to do and where they're going to be in 10 years.

[C]

Years.

[D]

And then you look at them 10 years later, the gap between what they said they were going to do and what they actually did is huge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The reason that the Internet is taking this clip and reacting to it a certain way is because they already have a narrative about Aisha Curry that they've been building. Based off things she said in the past. Yeah. Based off things she said. Based off things she's done. They immediately went back and found the clip. When she went on the show with Tia Mount, when the cake guy came out and she mocked like she was taking her wedding ring off.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

There's the other interviews she's done where she said, hey, I never got a chance to, for all intents and purposes, have a whole face.

[C]

She also said some shit like, yo, when I go out, I want the men to look at me and want. You know what I mean? With a certain level, I don't think.

[B]

There'S nothing wrong with all that.

[D]

I don't get any.

[E]

Nothing.

[C]

This is the thing.

[E]

But you're representing something.

[A]

No, right now there's something wrong.

[C]

There's something wrong representing your husband.

[A]

Of course, you don't understand.

[E]

You're representing your husband. You're ripping somebody.

[D]

Fuck you.

[C]

Let me ask you this, right? If a married man sat on the couch and a beautiful woman walked in and that man said and act like he was gonna go chase the woman, it would be looked at a certain way. You being disrespectful to your wife. If a married man. A married man comes in and he's married to, let's say, what's Agent Wilson?

[E]

No, he married somebody.

[C]

Nice Halle Berry or something, right. And. And then he says, yo, when I go out, I'll be wanting these chicks to look at my gray sweatpants too, dog. Like, I don't want to be. Like, it's something to be said about that. Like, it's disrespectful to your significant other.

[B]

That also entirely depends on your relationship with your partner. Because some partners have, like, a fun relationship where they joke about that type of shit and it might not be known by the public that these are. Jeff in the house.

[C]

Steph could think nothing of it, but when you say it publicly now, you open up yourself to public criticism about what the world looks at as appropriate.

[B]

I've also seen Steph stick up for her and some people putting up content recently.

[A]

She's done that as recently as last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Steph is man of the church.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Right. So his views and how he handles things and how he goes about it, like, we get it. One, two. Steph is part of the. He flies in that rarefied air of people where there is nothing negative that we know to say about him. He's the six foot one guy that became the greatest in a sport where we always thought you had to be tall and big. He's this, huh, six, three.

[B]

Still short.

[A]

Short. He's the tiny guy. But I mean, he made his way to the best shooter in the world. You'd have to really stress yourself to find Nick. Negative press about him. And it seems like the only time that we can create the Internet, when I say we create some type of story about him is when we hear.

[C]

From your better half.

[D]

And I think that's part of the problem. And I agree with you. Ishaan was part of that. I wasn't disagreeing with taking the ring part of it. I was talking about the whole face part. I was saying that I don't think anything's wrong with her coming out and saying, hey, I never got to have a whole face. A different position. Let's take mine. So for me, the context in which I heard her say it was like, every young person has a chance to experiment before they get married. I don't think she wanted to have a whole phase with him. Like, while she was with him. I think she was saying, I never had a chance to experience single life as an adult. And I do think a lot of people should have that. The ring thing, I wouldn't like. You know, again, if my wife did it, I would not care.

[C]

Based on your relationship?

[D]

Based on our relationship. Because that's sort of how we joke. It's like when that Denzel video went up and I was like. And she was like, husband, I ain't got no husband. Like, when she was saying, it's funny to me. It's cute and it's funny, and I don't care. It seems to me that a lot of the people who have a criticism of her have a certain idea of how women should be in relationships. And a lot of those people, to your point, Joe, they're partly modeling it based on how men in step like he's a man of the church. And so there's a certain idea of what church women should look like and what church mothers and first ladies should look like. That view is very similar to the view that many traditional non church people have about how women should operate. And I don't necessarily think that's that even though Steph's part of the church that's his view.

[C]

I think that I think that to your point about the whole phase you can it's Donnell Jones where I want to be. If you listen to the words of the song it's basically yo we got in this relationship married early. I don't know what the world is out here to offer. I'm trying to go find out. You can think that I think that there's a problem when you say as a married woman to somebody that is a international star are yo I missed out on my quote unquote whole phase meaning that regretfully I might wanted to have explored that.

[B]

I think the difference is with the Darnell Jones lyric was I want to go see that and I don't think she's right.

[D]

It wasn't Isaac. She's not doing that she said he wasn't married.

[A]

And people are receiving her constant statements as a tweety she's not being received somebody that's just stating that the fact facts of right. Hey this is I missed out on this whole thing happen like and I.

[D]

Think that's wolf for ignorance.

[A]

She sounds like hey I might have missed out on something and then that turns into depending on who's getting that something else because you ended up with the tippity tippity tippity top of what's at of what men have to offer. And still so that's why the conversation is a thing it's nuanced.

[C]

No no no. But then it opens up that another conversation Maybe she didn't get the tippity tippity top of what men have to offer. She got that in notoriety and money. But it could be lacking something else. And you again make your husband look like he is not sufficient in providing certain things for you.

[A]

Because she goes on to say I'd have never with him back in the day but he just wasn't my type.

[D]

Well you can't say that when did they get together though that's the part of high school.

[C]

So like when they met they met at some when she was 12.

[D]

When was she not gonna and then.

[C]

Reach connected years later which means when you say these things verbally, your husband now looks kind of crazy, but you get what I'm saying.

[A]

Actually, we ain't got to get all deep on this. What is there to not understand about. You will be looked at through a certain lens if your significant other, wife, husband or whoever get out there. We did this with Jada. Yeah.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

When Jada Pinkett Smith got out there and every other month and year told us how much he missed Tupac Shakur, we judged him. How much?

[B]

That's way different.

[C]

It's different. The young boy that just got drafted that plays for Jack.

[A]

Travis Hunter.

[C]

Travis Hunter. His girl's like, yo, he wasn't my type. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was doing same shit. But Travis Hunter and Steph Curry are nowhere near in the same hemisphere. Not just that. Steph Curry's been married for double digit years. So for your wife, now that you have children with, to get. To get on a public platform time after time after time and put that sentiment in the air. To even be pondered to me is disrespectful, bro.

[E]

Why you don't look at it as you said it earlier, there's something lacking in the relationship.

[A]

Keep that.

[E]

Hold on, hold on. There's something lacking with being the tippity top. It comes with a lot of responsibility on the outside that takes away from your family. So why can't you look at it like that? As she is basically crying for help, crying for the attention, crying for the acknowledgement, crying for or the respect from her husband. Like, yo, I risked this even though, you know, we had children. I took care of children.

[A]

That's a fair point.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[C]

That's a fair point. But you don't got to tell the world that you could go with it, bro. That's a great point. Tell your husband or get some counsel. Makes your husband look insufficient.

[E]

I got you.

[D]

But I guess the only thing I'm. And that is a great point. I'm just saying it might not be true. All this hinges on us believing that their relationship is a certain thing, that it might not be. They might all be happy and laughing when they get home. And he has.

[A]

And again. And I get this from the killer Mike exchange.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He has no problem with anything that's going on with his wife and he would prefer for the Internet to mind their business.

[C]

Well, then tell your wife to stop giving us this to talk about this. But I'm just saying you can't get. You can't get mad at people speaking on that. You Putting out there.

[B]

No, but here's what it ain't like.

[C]

Like, it's just. This is just people making shit up. She herself is saying these things. But it's not. Hold on, let me. It's not like. It's people just running around. Yo. I think Aisha Curry thinks this. I think that she is sitting down voluntarily. She don't have a show or nothing like that. She's going on these platforms time and time and time and time again, she's going on these platforms, divulging this information, making him look like this. And yes, people are gonna talk.

[D]

But see, I guess getting it from the horse's mouth, and I guess that's the part. I think if she says things in public, we have a right to criticize the things. I agree with that. I think part of the narrative becomes, you're embarrassing him. And I think my whole point is we gotta stop saying that. If he's saying, I'm not embarrassed.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I'm fine with this.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah. He's saying, y' all are minding my business before he's saying I'm embarrassed about anything.

[D]

Exactly. So we should say it's bothering us, not that it's bothering him. Cause we almost make it seem like we're standing up for Steph. Like, we're protecting Steph from his wife's words.

[A]

I agree with that.

[D]

And it's like, Steph is like, nah, I'm good.

[B]

So most of this criticism seems.

[D]

I would feel the same. I know I would feel the way. And this happened with Michelle Obama. And I gotta say, it bothered me, too. When you're. And I think this happens with women in particular, but I think black women a lot. And part of it is an effort to humanize us. Right. When you get celebrated and you're seen as perfect all the time, a lot of times it's our wives that'll be like, yeah, but he don't take out the trash. Or, yeah, he don't do it. And after a while, I was like, damn, Michelle, like, say something nice about the guy. Right. Not because she doesn't love him. I know she loves him, and I know he loves her. But sometimes it's this effort to show, like, you know, he's. He's an everyday person. I think it does reach to the point where we start. To where it starts to be, like, demoralizing.

[B]

I think it's also a weird thing we say, don't say, say something nice about the guy. When the only things that go viral is her saying things that Some could take as negative. She might be saying all the nice in the world that just don't go.

[D]

And that's another point.

[B]

Or something that someone could pick at is going to go viral and not her saying, he's the best man.

[D]

Right. Especially if there's a narrative.

[B]

You made my life great.

[A]

Well, see, that's the thing. Hold up for a minute. Freeze. That's when my toxic brain kicks in for a second. Because that's not the only thing that goes viral. The little. The little fine cheerleader girl that's standing behind the basket as I'm shooting free throws with the Steph Curry custom made shirt over titties is going viral too. While I have to pretend to not see this lady.

[D]

What lady?

[A]

Exactly. So if my response publicly is just this, just how I carry it, but if this is how I respond to this and how I deal with all that comes on my plate as a famous person, not for him. Because you're right, I'd be projecting again, I think there would be some level of expectation as to how you would expect for your partner to handle public.

[C]

Public. The public spotlight or the other part y' all missing is he could just be a real. Like, I could be pissed off about this. I'm not gonna let y' all know it. Of course I'mma act like it's all good. Same thing with Barack. Same thing with the rest the of to them. He can't go out and show that what she's doing is bothering me. So every time the camera's in my face so I say something, I' ma stand up for her. Nah, that's cool. That's it now. Don't worry about that. We good over here.

[B]

I think it's unfair to project what your version of a relationship or what your version of how your wife should talk or act or think is on anybody else's relationship. I think that's fucking weird.

[C]

I agree with that.

[A]

I agree with that. I agree. But.

[C]

But we do that with every relationship. And how we look at again, Jada Pinkett and Will Smith. Well, Will Smith.

[A]

She was out of pocket. She was out of pocket.

[B]

I'm not talking about the Tupac.

[C]

Not even the Tupac.

[A]

Who says no.

[C]

She was out of pocket based on our standard. She was out of pocket based on what they might have been doing in their household. She not. She wasn't.

[D]

You could say I might.

[A]

Based on how Will.

[E]

Yeah, you could tell Will was affected.

[D]

I think at some point Will seemed affected by it. I agree with you for a long.

[C]

Time he had like. He wasn't. We saw the red in his eyes. Right? We saw all of that shit.

[D]

Entanglement.

[C]

Maybe the red in his eyes came because now it became public information and public knowledge. He might have had knowledge of that relationship for a decade. We don't know that. But now that it's out in the world, now I feel embarrassed. I'm on the front page. My wife.

[D]

That's the part I'm talking about. I'm only talking about the public part. Cool.

[C]

But Parks point was we can't tell somebody how to basically describe normality in a relationship or normalcy in a relationship.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

Right? But the people that are looking, they're gonna make an opinion with any public relationship.

[D]

Again, I'm good with the opinions. If you're in public, we're gonna make public opinions. I just think again, we don't wanna project our values, our experience, everything onto that, y'.

[A]

All. 2. Parks and Mark as married men. If you saw your wife on a television show and when the Chippendales dancer came out, she. She mocked, just mocked, joking, like she was taking her ring off, how would y' all feel?

[D]

I'll be fine with it.

[B]

I'm fight back on the broadcast that I'll be on.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

You gonna get some muscles on your chest.

[A]

See, I agree with y'. All. If I was married and I saw my wife do that, I wouldn't pay enough.

[C]

That wouldn't bother me.

[A]

But then if three months later, a bunch of other things, something else happened. Mine either.

[C]

Then a year later and then six.

[A]

Months later, like the re. The. The string of events, at some point I would have the conversation with her. So that's why I like Isis Point. Cuz I assume Steph Curry to be a real.

[B]

I would imagine that would be unbelievable to bull to me that they didn't sit down at dinner and say, hey, when you go out there and do these interviews, maybe don't say this. Or he's like, yo, actually throw that on the fire. Who gives a. Let's turn up.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I'd be walking by the dishwasher like you want to somebody so bad. Sit down, down, sit down. Sit down somewhere. God damn word.

[C]

Say nothing.

[A]

Oh, shout out to the curry. Shout, shout out to the curry. One of my favorite families. Man, I love the bro Seth. All of them. Yeah, all of them. D Pops. Yeah.

[D]

And Seth is over there on the team now. The brother's playing on the same Golden State Warriors.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

It's a nice back.

[D]

It's going to be nice. Deadly Shooting too.

[A]

Loved Seth since Duke and for some strange reason he believes the Curry family to be great Monopoly players.

[C]

Yeah, we've had that. We've had that back and forth for some years.

[D]

I'm putting my money on them.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Well that's the type of you are.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[D]

Yeah. If somebody has the ability to become the greatest shooters of all time I think they can figure out Monopoly N.

[C]

That'S two totally different things.

[D]

I'm just saying I ain't betting against them.

[C]

Totally different world.

[A]

I'll slide the out of the curries.

[C]

And Monopoly my handle.

[A]

Different.

[C]

Different.

[A]

There's a few of these that think they're nice and I heard Chris Paul think he nice as spades. I could be at any all I've.

[D]

Heard Chris Paul's a beast.

[A]

I could be on any All Star weekend.

[C]

I could be there.

[A]

Yeah, it can happen. Like some of you that I hear.

[C]

You should go outside and have Joe button annual spades off like Dwyane Wade.

[A]

Had at the All Star game. No, I'm not coming outside. Chase a friendship if you. If. If you ever. I'm not coming outside the court. I'm not coming to court.

[C]

You're having a spade tournament.

[E]

You should though that you set up.

[C]

At All Star weekend and invite and whoever wants to come bring their partner.

[A]

I want some of you big talking big time money and I've been saying this since I was broke to lock in on the spade table just for a little while. I play some good music on the aux see my daddy cook something.

[C]

So set it up.

[A]

Then my my daddy cook a little.

[C]

Something but you can set it up.

[A]

Afraid of me, Freeze. That's why I'm on my public platform. These niggas are afraid of me and my partner.

[C]

They're afraid of your partner and you.

[A]

However you want to wear. Hey, they both Joe Buttons. Hey, however you want to name it. They both Joe Buttons. Come on out man.

[C]

Your father will be like a kid in the candy store.

[A]

My dad every day called me to see when Mark is ready to come outstairs.

[C]

Mar don't to play spades man. I'm ready. I know that he don't want to play.

[D]

I know that this the button you would have been playing Mark.

[E]

Come on.

[D]

You say.

[E]

You say you would have.

[A]

Mark don't want to play.

[D]

I would have. Yes, yes.

[E]

You make time for everything else. Make time to play space.

[D]

I do make time to play. You don't even stop.

[C]

Yo, I ain't going to hold you. Go get a bag for 20 right?

[D]

Beat the buttons and spades. Right?

[A]

You be free. You be free. At some point. At some point you get free one. We had. We had. And too who to say you can't get 20 from the spade game if you're nice.

[D]

So. So what?

[C]

Risking that he's lying.

[D]

This is what happened.

[A]

No, he is.

[D]

Jo. He made an appointment to play. We supposed to play that Sunday. And Joe went in my A. You had to merge.

[A]

Something happened Sunday for the rest of your life.

[D]

Say less.

[A]

So that way you not understanding.

[D]

Don't let him say that.

[A]

Any Sunday for the rest of your life.

[C]

Call him out on that though if you bout it.

[A]

You got to call any Sunday for the rest of his life.

[D]

As long.

[A]

As long as air is in your lungs. What the hell is he talking about?

[B]

There you go.

[E]

Yo.

[A]

Go get.

[C]

Call Cliff.

[D]

I'm not playing with nobody I ain't play with before. He's talking too crazy now. I'm just get my partner.

[A]

But I'm not talking. I'm talking like. Just factual.

[C]

He been saying the same from day one.

[D]

Yeah, but then he goes ghost. He makes an appointment and then he disappears. Pop up six weeks later like we never played before. We ain't played because you disappeared. You should not go ghost.

[C]

Can we set this up for this?

[A]

Are you. Are you.

[C]

Are you busy this Sunday? Are you busy this Sunday?

[A]

Shit. Huh?

[C]

Are you busy this Sunday?

[D]

What you say?

[C]

Gotta have your partner. They nice together.

[A]

No.

[E]

I got a partner that you can call instantly.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes. The nigga live in New York. We good.

[A]

I ain't gonna get my dad excited. Let's wait to see.

[D]

Man.

[A]

Let's wait to see.

[D]

His pop gonna walk into me at Joe's birthday party. Pulled me aside like he was carrying a gun. Opens up his jacket and has two decks of cards there like. And challenge me to a game in the middle of a birthday party. They challenge you when they know you can't play. That's all it is.

[C]

I'm trying to progress this. Y' all both say y' all free Sunday.

[E]

But he knew.

[C]

Can you call your partner today?

[A]

And.

[D]

And if I told my wife I'm disappearing for an hour to go play an hour.

[A]

Lock in on the Corey table first. Go get with Corey. Play Corey and D. Play a few for her. Don't just step to me and my dad. I'm telling you. And I love you.

[D]

He's already ducking the face.

[A]

See what he doing? They know that I'm not ducking the f you talking.

[C]

He's not ducking I. He's not ducking the F. When it come to spades, he's not ducking the fade.

[E]

I just want them to play. I just want them to play the game.

[D]

Play this Sunday, my place. Your place. You name the spot.

[A]

Got it? Say less. I'm order some Buffalo wings.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Say less. So Aisha Curry, her relationship, her business, we mind our business. That's it. We moved on. But we listen and we judge too, though. But we listen and we judge a lot.

[D]

We need to judge something else, Joe.

[A]

Let's do it.

[D]

Her name is Molly Cuero.

[C]

Will we judge her?

[D]

She was. We're judging. I'm gonna tell you what we're about to judge. She, of course, for those that don't know, was the host of First Take on ESPN for many years. The show that is hosted by Stephen A. Smith at one point had Skip Bayless to other people over the course of the year. Shane and Sharpe, more recently.

[B]

One of the biggest shows in sports history.

[D]

Absolutely. One of the biggest shows in sports history. The flagship show at this point, at this point of espn, as opposed to a pardoning eruption. She is an integral part of the show in many people's opinion, in my opinion as well. She left ESPN abruptly, rather abruptly, about three weeks ago. There was speculation about why she left the network, but ultimately.

[A]

And that tea was hot. And I never touched it. Yep, that tea was hot. Don't think that I wasn't in the back channels trying to get a little dose of that tea. That tea was piping hot. But here we are, we back.

[D]

We back. And one of the things that came up was, was most recently the conversation about her contract that she left because she was insulted, according to reports, at the amount that they offered her and what she was currently making, which was reported to be $500,000 per year, which was what?

[C]

The new offer.

[A]

Now that was the new offer or is that what she was making?

[D]

That's what she was currently making. And whatever the offer was, wasn't significantly higher than that, wasn't sufficiently higher than that to make her sense. I don't know what the new number was. I don't believe it's been reported. But we know that she was making 500 according to the reports. And she felt like 500 was an insulting number was unfair given what she's given to the franchise. We also know Stephen A's contract as well, which is overall deal. It's not just for that show. But I just.

[A]

What does that have to do with anything?

[D]

I'm just putting all Everything on the table. Because this is part.

[A]

No, it ain't.

[D]

No, it is only because that's why some people are upset. I'm not saying it should or shouldn't be. I'm saying. Just saying we have a lot of information about salaries there. One particular piece of information we had was Kendrick Perkins, and that might be a better comp. Kendrick Perkins reportedly was making 750,000 at the time that she's making 500,000. Oh, again, I'm just laying out the facts that people were using to make the argument.

[A]

I can't wait to hear everyone's thoughts on this.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. That's why I want to give all the information and let people make their own decisions. And the question was, is she overpaid? Is she underpaid? Is she appropriate, appropriately paid?

[B]

It's hard to know without knowing any real figures. But if we're trying to compare, Kendrick Perkins does a lot more shows than just first take. So it seems like she was making a respectable first of all, $500,000 a year is a nice salary regardless. But that seems fair and appropriate. And we can't even use Stephen A. Because he's on ESPN night and day, Day and night, regardless of sport.

[C]

You cannot use Stephen A. Smith, because Stephen A. Smith is an outlier.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But you can use Kendrick Perkins. Yes, you can use Kendrick Perkins because Molly for the last decade has been on that show. She's helped that show become what it was. When Kendrick Perkins got there, that show was already there.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Right.

[C]

No disrespect to him. Kendrick Perkins, journalistic ability.

[A]

He be checking to see niggas about.

[C]

Shit they say is nowhere near where hers was like. And I don't know. And I don't know what they do outside of being on a microphone. We don't know what their full job encompasses. Molly's job might be to research the information. Like, I don't know.

[A]

You know? Molly's job is not to research.

[D]

They got producers.

[A]

I'm saying.

[C]

What I'm saying is I don't know the extent of their job, so I can't necessarily say that. But. Well, let's assume what you see is her job. I think she was underpaid.

[D]

What would affair look like?

[A]

A meal?

[D]

What number would you no longer say she's underpaid?

[C]

Maybe 800. Because again, you got to judge who your counterparts are. So if Kendrick Perkins is sitting right next to me and he's at 7, $800,000, then she has a fair question asking, why am I not at $700,000. But he's on other. Yeah, I helped. I'm paid by this network. I'm on multiple shows on this network. That would justify me getting. I don't know how many shows he's on.

[B]

He pops up on the NBA show.

[C]

Late night on the NBA.

[B]

Sometimes Sports Center.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And Molly is not just basketball. Molly's on that show all year round. Lending to everything Kendrick Perkins primary knowledge is in basketball.

[D]

Remember when Kendrick Purse got into that. Some controversial stuff around the MVP award. Jokic. And he made some comments about race. Remember when he got into it with Charles Barkley about the past. In 10 years, can you think of one thing Molly Quin's ever said?

[C]

No. But virality don't necessarily mean that she's not doing the job to the best of her ability.

[D]

Here's what I'm saying that because first of all, I hope MILEY Quin gets $50 million. I want people to get as much money as they. I am not trying to stop that for sure. But I do think there's a difference between being a commentator and your job is to offer provocative commentary.

[C]

True.

[D]

Which is harder to find.

[C]

True.

[D]

Right. Than. Oh, I think so.

[C]

I just think it's role.

[D]

Than a moderator. Yeah, but a moderator, remember. Cause she's the host. But she's really the moderator.

[A]

She is.

[D]

I think it's harder to replace Kendrick Perkins than it is to replace Molly Quinn.

[C]

I wouldn't say that. Because you got a bunch of strong. That's not true. You got a bunch of. You got a bunch of strong personalities in the room. Moderating those personalities may not be the easiest of things.

[D]

It's not the easiest.

[C]

Finding an athlete that is loud and boisterous and brash could potentially be out there.

[D]

Potentially. I think. And again, I don't want Molly Corner to make less money. I want to be clear about that. Again, I want everybody to get as much money as they can. But I do see a difference between an NBA analyst, which is. I mean, there's a very small number of people who are former NBA players who can articulate themselves, who have personality and noteworthy opinions that will get people talking in agreement or disagreement. I think it's much easier to find someone who can moderate and kind of organize. It's not easy. I'm not saying her job is easy. I'm just saying it's different.

[A]

Y' all can skip this. The salary cap on each of the roles tells the story.

[D]

And that's my point.

[A]

This is not really about Molly. If Molly was the best person in the universe, his job. They were going to put a cap on what she can make versus if Kendrick Perkins go up there and hit that out the park, it's going to be a different conversation.

[C]

Yeah, but that's based on him playing the sport before.

[D]

It's also.

[B]

No, that, that's valid too. Like him having a background of notoriety.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but we, we are taking, taking ESPN first take. And we are now funneling it into just basketball. It's bigger than just basketball. So again, Kendrick Perkins can't. Molly Corn can't hold a candle to Kendrick Perkins basketball iq. He's been around the sport since he was a child. And let's take this off of Kendrick Perkins. You could bring any basketball player in, C.J. williams, anybody, and talk X's and O's and all the other stuff that go along with that. The same thing you could do with Tyrrell Owens or Chad Ochocinko. Anybody that played the sport and lived the sport, of course they're going to have vast knowledge. But when you start talking about, yo, this person is only beneficial in this one sport and I'm here for 365 days and I help build this ship from the ground up, that should, in my opinion, have some level of credence.

[D]

I think it should too. And that's why I wouldn't mind paying her. Like you said, six or seven or eight. Oh, again, whatever the number is.

[C]

I don't know what she was asking. Let's say she was asking for 700 grand.

[D]

I think it was a seven figure deal. No, I'm talking about reports. I don't wanna be hypothetical. I'm saying according to reports, she was asking for a seven figure deal. And again, I hope she gets it wherever and I hope she got it. I wish she got it there. She went to NBC.

[C]

Right.

[D]

But again, I think she signed to NBC. Did she?

[C]

I think.

[D]

Okay, I don't know that to be true, but if that's true, excellent. If we move it off of her and ESPN for a minute. If we were to look at Inside the NBA, Ernie Johnson to me is a staple. He's the longest tenured person there. He deserves a ton of money and I think he is a rarer talent as a moderator than maybe anybody I've ever seen moderate a sports team. I still don't think necessarily he should make as much as the other three people up there for the same reason. Because I still think inside the NBA would look very different and a lot worse without those three. Without Ernie Johnson, it'll be worse.

[A]

Too.

[D]

But I'd much rather have to face the challenge of replacing Ernie Johnson and replacing Sean Shaq, Charles Barkley, and Kenny Smith.

[E]

Are you taking credit away from the moderators of the important.

[A]

No.

[D]

I mean, I'm a moderator. Moderator is hard as shit.

[E]

Don't you feel like they're needed? Moderation for strong personalities?

[D]

Yes. I just don't think. And Joe, maybe I could use you as an example. You hosted a show with a moderator, right? It was you act. And didn't you have a moderator?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nadeska.

[A]

Nadeska. Shout out to Nadeska.

[D]

And there's no disrespect. I just. I just couldn't my brain shout out to her.

[A]

She was a moderator on our show, right? That's not to reduce her to a moderator on our show. She played the moderator.

[D]

And that's what I'm saying. Again, the show was about YouTube and your opinions, and she's navigating and managing traffic and being really talented at her job. But I don't think it's the same. I don't think. I wouldn't put her on a tier with act and Joe. And so that's all I'm saying. And I feel like we get into.

[C]

These shows and that's why I wanted to take Kendrick out of it. Because now if you say she's the moderator on a show with anybody, and Stephen A. Smith, we know what he's making, right?

[D]

You got more money than God.

[C]

So now you could say if. Let's just say because they getting paid by a network, they're getting paid. It's not Stephen A. Smith's show. They're getting paid on this particular show, dog. Then you could say, yo, dawg, I started this show with him. Of course he's who he is. So I'm not saying that I need to even be in his ballpark. She's not in the stadium. She ain't on the block. Yeah, she in another city. So she has a gripe or argument like, yo, fam, if I put the work in, reward me for the work.

[D]

And some might say she not new keeping you here when we could get somebody to replace you who's younger and would take less money. Is the gratitude like we do at Pam Olive. We do a lot of ventures. They would say keeping. And I'm not saying it's true or not, but you know that that's a position people take. I happen to think they're talented and should stay, but I think the network's position is we're doing you A favor by keeping you in a job where we could swap you out. And I think that. I think that's problematic. Well, let me ask y' all just one last question on this. And it's to take it off all of them. Think about it even.

[A]

How do you think that sentiment is disgusting?

[C]

I think that sentiment is disgusting because you could say, yo, you're replaceable. Everybody for the most part is replaceable with the exception of a couple people. And then we and corporations want people to go above and beyond and give their blood, sweat and tears. And the minute that you say, yo, you're replaceable at a cheaper number, you out the door. Now employee, employee morale is going to be trash. If I know I'm replaceable and if I know you look at me like I'm expendable, then why the fuck would I put my best foot forward and go above and beyond for you?

[D]

But I think I agree with that sentiment. I guess that's why I'm saying.

[A]

Wait, what sentiment do you agree with?

[D]

I agree with saying if you communicate to employees all the time, you're expendable. That's a problem. If you communicate to employees, we can get rid of you at any time. And they don't have safety.

[A]

That muddies the waters here.

[D]

That's why I'm taking it off the table.

[A]

Slow down, but don't take it off the table. Cuz this is a good talk. Okay. You're not communicating to employees that you're expendable all the time. That's not what I'm talking about, Mark.

[D]

I know. That's where I was going to say.

[A]

Cause you're going.

[C]

I responded to his statement and his statement was, you feel like I'm doing you a favor by keeping you here because there's somebody younger that.

[D]

I see what you said.

[C]

No, that's not what I. I responded to that.

[E]

Got it.

[D]

I meant something different. I wasn't saying the network is communicated to employees. I'm saying from the network perspective, we're not on you by keeping. We're not disposing of you. We're keeping you in this position because we respect you. We could do this other thing. But I'm saying in their minds, keeping someone for 10 years who they could replace and paying them more than maybe the height of that position when they could be saving money by cutting it in half.

[A]

That's conversation.

[D]

That's. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

So I think that. I think that they may have information we don't have. Who says that that's the height of that position and what that pay scale is. There's other information that we may not be privy to and that.

[A]

Or just in that building, but that's.

[C]

Not necessarily because it's. When you take into account those things, you take into account all of the buildings. Like if you go look at a senior accountant job or if you go look at a VP of finance job, you don't just take into account this one particular company. You take into the field in the market. And the market dictates what my pay raise will be.

[D]

Well, I can tell you. And again, I've never worked in sports media, but I can tell you in political media, which has always been kind of the model. If you're. There's a difference between a host and an anchor. If you're the anchor, where your job is to read straight news and you're not the personality of the show, there's a very clear cap and it's not that high.

[C]

Gotcha.

[D]

And if you're on a show like Crossfire, where two people would be debating and going at it, which is kind of what sports stole, the guy in the middle, moderating between Tucker Carlson and whoever it was back when they first came, they're not making as much because the idea is that they are replaceable.

[C]

I'm agreeing with you.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

We're not saying that she's supposed to make Stephen A. Smith money.

[A]

Right.

[C]

She might not even make J. Will money because those guys can engage in a different way.

[A]

Right, right.

[C]

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying. But she might have the information where the moderators around are making X.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

And I got 10 years in this bitch at the biggest platform in the world, and I'm not making X. So I have reason to maybe feel like I should go somewhere else.

[D]

And I respect that. I think she should. I would just say some of the people who are her comps are doing more than moderating.

[C]

Yes, that's possible, but that might be the role that I'm playing on the show. You said Nadeska on that particular show was subjected to being the moderator for you. And at. That doesn't mean that. That that's the peak of where Nadeska's skill sets lie.

[A]

It means. Yes, but it means that's the peak of what the pay scale will be at this show. Gotcha.

[D]

Right.

[C]

And there you go. And, and, and there you have it. She made her decision. You know what I'm saying? Like, she made her decision. And then when you face with A left or right to make my. You gotta make a left or right. As she did what she thought was best for her family.

[D]

But I'm gonna say the same thing.

[A]

I know they know your worst. Get tricky.

[C]

It does.

[B]

It does.

[A]

I know your worst.

[C]

It's a gamble.

[A]

I know everybody's running around here saying, know your worth.

[C]

It's a gamble.

[A]

It's. It's tricky. It is.

[D]

And it's cold out here. Again, get your money.

[A]

That's. That's the part.

[E]

Tricky and what part?

[A]

That's the part.

[C]

It's tricky because you. You are faced with a decision that you gotta live with. And if you think your worth is X and the in the field is saying your worth is. Y' all are at a crossroads.

[A]

Knowing your worth is a dice game. Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

[D]

Especially when they. But you would.

[E]

But you would promote for somebody to know their worth and stick to what they worth. I've heard you say that. Yo, if you know you're worth. If you know you're worth X, stick to that. Don't put. Don't take your foot off the.

[A]

I'm not telling everybody to know their worth. It's not true.

[D]

No, it ain't true.

[E]

No, wait, wait. We stop.

[D]

One thing. You should know your worth. You shouldn't always have to pursue it in a way that. Like, here's the thing. If you're in a field like. Like sports media, where there's two major companies, ESPN and Fox, and you're not a personality, right? I mean, you're a personality, but you're not the personality. You're the moderator. You're the person. Those shows are almost designed for you not to see them. Like, most people don't even remember who was moderating between Skip and Shannon. Only, like the insiders know, in general, they want you to think of these two people, and then somebody's in the background directing traffic. They design it that way so that they can replace those people. So if there's only two companies that have this, that made two giants and you work at one of them and.

[C]

You leave, then the other company has leverage.

[D]

All the leverage.

[C]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

So I'm just saying. It's not as. So I'm just saying know your worth.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

But understand careful how hard you ride that. That value.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like. And not just that. My. You could be wrong.

[D]

There's also. You could think you know your worth.

[C]

And you could be thinking you worth a million dollars, and you ain't.

[A]

There are more of those Stories than there are of the Know youw Worth got hidden. Yeah, true. Yeah, true. There's way more of those stories.

[C]

But no, it's funny. We have this argument often and me and you stand on the other side to that. We stand on the same side today, but we have a other side of that argument. When you be like, yo, tighten up your belt. And me and Ice will say, no, nigga, niggas got kids. They can't afford to tighten up they belt to go take a gamble or roll a crapshoot on hitting it big. So those are things that when you quote, unquote, know your worth, you gotta take into consideration. My nigga, you a grown man. You got kids at home, you got a family to feed. So you knowing your worth and rolling the dice could potentially mean your children starving.

[A]

Everybody's know your worth point starts and ends in two different places, right? So I don't have nothing to say to that guy.

[B]

True.

[A]

The guy that is making a decision, cuz he got to put food on the table for his kids that are hungry.

[D]

I.

[A]

Who's to say that that person is wrong? That's the thing. There's also no right or wrong.

[C]

True. It's. Yeah, you're right.

[A]

There is no.

[C]

There's no right.

[A]

I agree with that. I don't recommend how I did it because I'm a lunatic, right? But I'm gonna preach for people to bet on themselves versus just running around with a handout begging.

[D]

And that's what I did.

[A]

And at least. And at least if you're gonna run around with a handout, begging, right? And not begging because I'm talking shit, but just company, man. Then that opportunity will always be there after you bet on yourself. That's the way of the world.

[C]

Especially in the instance with Mark when it's only two networks or it's only two players in the game. My.

[A]

It might not say two networks, but when Molly look across the down. The down.

[C]

Not her.

[A]

Well, but we started with. So when. When. When she looked down to down, she shouldn't see Hope at F1.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Like before you quit a job, have people leave. Jobs is how they leave. That's on everybody. The complex. We didn't get to a new contract and I had a baby on the way. I had a baby. My baby was born the next day. Tight spot to be in, but shit happens. Where can Molly look and see hope? Because wherever you go too, we talking about you being there day one, not you being somewhere year tent. Right? You walking in the building. You walking In a new place. It don't matter what you did somewhere else, what success you had. What success can you have in this ecosystem with this structure? And like Mark said, it's cold out there.

[C]

I believe that.

[A]

And. And you niggas running around. That's thinking y' all gonna. Is a name I wanna say now that we've talked about in recent months, that I won't say that I got from you, but he ran around thinking that it was a nice spring summer day outside.

[C]

I know what you're talking about.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Is up outside, yo.

[C]

I know what you're talking about.

[D]

It is. Yeah.

[A]

And I think it's everybody's job to at least be aware of what's going on.

[C]

You got to measure the field, yo. And you got to do in any business.

[A]

This is business.

[C]

I think it's economics 1, 101 or 102, you got to do a SWAT analysis when you making these decisions.

[A]

And it's a.

[C]

A SWAT analysis. Yeah.

[D]

I don't know what it is.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

What the. It's opportunities to. Weaknesses is the W. Strengths is the S. And T is so strength. Weaknesses, opportunities and threats. Right. And you gotta make that assessment when you jump out in the field. Like, yo, my strengths are this. My weaknesses are this. The opportunities to y' all point ain't vast. There's limited opportunities, my nigga. And then the threats are these. So it's a bunch of. I don't wanna.

[A]

And you know what else is funny? I think we should've closed.

[D]

Ring a bell, went to school.

[C]

Yo, shut your ass up.

[A]

And I think we should have closed this a while ago. But it's a real good conversation. Also, how do you value things at your job that are not currency?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like, that would be tough for me if I'm Molly. I'm at the only company where there seems to be a black man shooting up in salary and position.

[E]

Position.

[A]

And who seems to have the ear of the white people that are in charge. And I'm pretty fly with him. Like, that's a stock that continues to go up. And I'm looking at the last 20 years of it.

[D]

Well, some people. You know, some people were blaming him.

[C]

They were.

[D]

For this exit. Like, look, if you got that much sort of pool in Cachet, you should be like, this is my one. And I don't want to work with anybody else who do what she needs to get her happy and get her to that number.

[A]

Well, that's where the tea is hot. That's where the tea is a little. That's where the tea is a little hot.

[D]

Flame on.

[A]

And that's where we would have to have some conversations.

[D]

Okay, okay, I'll do some digging.

[A]

Conversations that I'm. I'm certainly not built to have.

[D]

Fair enough. Fair enough.

[A]

Shout out to Molly, man. Shout out to Molly. I want everybody to get their money.

[D]

Mr. East, I see Cam Newton on the board.

[A]

Yeah, let's just run down the whole sports gauntlet.

[C]

Cam just did an interview with the young lady. I forget her name. Pardon me. Parker McKenna McKinney. She used to play on my wife and kids back in the day. She's an adult now and she and Cam sat down. I think that the. The dialogue was really good. Like, if you guys haven't seen it, go look at it. But one of the things that is buzzing around the. The airways.

[A]

This Cam said buzzing around the airways. I need to hear.

[C]

Stupid.

[E]

Tell her.

[A]

I gotta hear what.

[C]

Cam basically told that he. When he meets a young lady, when they start to really get into the thick of things, he has to know for his own self assurances, decision making, SWOT analysis, whether he should move forward with her. He has to know her body count. Not just the count, the actual bodies.

[D]

Like the names?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Like famous names or just any names.

[C]

I'm assuming he meant famous names because he goes on to delve into it.

[D]

And famous names is a little different.

[C]

Famous names is not bad when you're Cam Newton. I'm on his side. I think some people in here will not. I know Joe automatically is not on his side.

[D]

I'm not on his side either, but I understand it a little bit.

[C]

But I understand it. I understand why. I get it.

[D]

But I'm not on his side first. I think asking people's body counts is juvenile.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

What are we, 12 or maybe 12, 18. But I think that's weird because, like, what. What do we gain from that? It doesn't.

[B]

Security.

[D]

So if you want to have testing. Really, do you. If I'm with somebody and you want to know about that, might your security.

[B]

All the way up.

[D]

Oh, you mean. I thought you meant health security. You mean like emotional security? Psychological. If your health. If your psychological security is tied to a number, like if it's over 20, I can't fuck with you because I'm. That's. That's weird to me.

[E]

It is weird, but a lot of people abide by that rule.

[C]

The other thing is how you know that person. Telling the truth.

[E]

I mean, when I was younger. Yeah, when I was younger, I used to want to know how Many bodies.

[D]

Would you care now if you were single?

[E]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't care. And as a.

[D]

Would you ask?

[E]

I wouldn't care. Not anymore. No.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

Not anymore.

[C]

I wouldn't care about the number. But the. But the who's on that list could definitely determine if I really.

[E]

Yeah, because look, you don't want to go outside. You don't want to be seen with somebody, go outside and then find out about them from somebody else because the circle is very small.

[D]

See?

[E]

For real, it's the truth. Some people don't care about that. Which is cool because you guys are on the other side.

[A]

Or.

[E]

But some people do. Some people care about going outside with their significant other. Hold on, wait. I'd rather you tell me first. Put me on so I'm not out here looking stupid. If you. If this teabagged you on. On the Eiffel Tower, let me know. That's how you know.

[B]

Or if it's like magic.

[E]

Or if it's like magic. Whatever it is.

[A]

But wait, you should just assume that she was teabagged on.

[E]

No, you know, she was definitely teabagged.

[C]

On a Eiffel Tower.

[E]

You should not assume that, though. You should not automatically go there and say you shouldn't assume that. I don't think you should assume that. I think that you should give a person person is her body and.

[A]

Are you out hunting for a virgin? No, but I'm serious.

[B]

Did she.

[A]

I want to argue no, but there's.

[C]

A gray area, bro. We not saying you avert. I'm not saying nothing. I think asking a lady's body count is whack.

[B]

If she f ike with the Iverson jersey, I would like to know.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

Listen to this.

[C]

If I'm cam new.

[A]

That's important. That's important.

[B]

There's some names out there.

[A]

He was light skinned with herpes. What? That's the other Mike with the Iverson jersey. Light skin with herpes. Now, now, I agree with Parks.

[B]

There's some names that you might want to know.

[D]

You guys are so stupid.

[A]

I slap you the in the hood with herpes.

[C]

Yo. Listen to it.

[A]

But they don't.

[D]

Why you at the Lakers 3 Peak party? Why?

[C]

Why should she tell you?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Why should she tell you it's a health risk?

[D]

So again, if you're worried about the health risk, get tested.

[A]

Wait, hold on, hold on. Because he sounds like a caveman right now. That's a health risk. And it's not just her business. If she puts my health at risk.

[C]

Get tested, like you said.

[E]

What do you mean?

[A]

If I go get tested and find something and it came from her and she didn't tell me, it's a crime.

[C]

No. Y' all get tested pre.

[A]

Who does that? I'm not.

[C]

You have the opportunity.

[D]

Instead of asking, who did you. I'm saying you could get tested for herpes. You get tested for hiv, you get tested for all this stuff. And then I know you no longer have the clinical. The excuse of saying, well, I needed to know. For health reasons, nobody asked for paperwork.

[B]

When you start dating a chick.

[D]

No, I'm talking about at the point. But to me, at the point where you're asking who you fucked in numbers and who did you fuck so and so from this rap group at that moment, if we tight like that, then let's get tested.

[C]

I don't think she did let the dusty bum hit. You think she gonna tell you?

[D]

No. That's why I say, just get tested.

[C]

She don't.

[E]

She.

[C]

Yo, they got bodies that they don't claim.

[D]

And that's why I say, just get tested. And you gotta ask. Shit.

[C]

Pointless ass conversation.

[E]

Why do we get on this mic? Why do we get on these mics as black men and afraid to say that we're insecure about certain things? I don't give your opinion.

[A]

One side of this topic presents as insecure. And why are we afraid to say it? And we wish y' all would say it.

[E]

No, no, no. But why are we afraid to acknowledge insecurity? A lot of us in here, a lot of people in here insecure about something. But when we get on the mic, we are afraid to say it. And we want to have this machine. Superman, like, no. Is insecure. You would have a conversation with your significant other. And sometimes in the conversation, if they know somebody, you ask, did you sleep with them? It's just a natural conversation.

[D]

It's not. There's a difference between saying, look, for example, if me and my wife are out and we had homecoming, I'm just. I'm picking something, right? She went to Howard.

[E]

That's fire.

[D]

What?

[E]

No. Cause I'm just.

[D]

She went to Howard. So we had Howard homecoming. And some nigga from back in college give her that extra long hug.

[A]

You know, the hug Capone drumming.

[D]

I might be like, I'm not saying. I would never do that. That, to me, is different than saying, we can't proceed in our relationship until I get your body count number and the who. That shit is weird. That, to me, is different. And also, just one more thing. On the famous piece, that doesn't matter to me unless you're going to be around them.

[C]

And that was Cam's point. So y' all ain't let me progress this part. I said I think it's corny, but I understand Cam is a professional athlete. There are women that date athletes.

[E]

That's all they do.

[C]

So now, I knew this dude since I was 15 years old. He calls my mother ma. I've known him. I've been his teammate before I actually. And if we want to keep it a buck, I know how this nigga give it up.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So now when I know you was fucking with blah, blah, blah. And I know how he give it up. As a man. No, it could be.

[A]

So what?

[C]

As a man, we all got insecurities. As a woman, every woman got insecurities. My nigga, if I know how this giving it up and I know how some of my friends roll.

[D]

Why don't you just ask him if y' all that type.

[E]

No, you're not supposed to ask the it's bro code.

[B]

You're saying. You're saying your man, like, really good.

[A]

No.

[D]

You know anything he come across. You know anything he come across.

[E]

He nearly.

[A]

I can't hear any of y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

Right, Sorry.

[C]

And so. And so I know how this particular. Oh, not just that. Yo, me and this dude are super duper close, and we too close for me to feel comfortable knowing that.

[D]

Then why can't you just ask him?

[C]

I'm talking to you how I'mma ask him if I don't know y' all dealt with each other before? He's saying, when I met you and you telling me that I dealt with this person. Then that's.

[D]

Oh, so you say you don't have a specific person he don't know?

[C]

Yeah, he was saying he don't know the dudes that she dealt with.

[A]

And I'm taking it further than that. Like, that's one point that you making. Mark, my point to you, Ish, is this lady we talking about is your everything.

[C]

Not yet.

[A]

See the next.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

Purposely.

[C]

Purposely can't get to my everything unless I know that.

[D]

And that's the weird part. That's what we highlighting and disagreeing with.

[A]

That's what we are.

[C]

You're not highlighting that if you just said, yo, that person is your everything. Yeah, we didn't get that far.

[D]

No, we said he trying to progress.

[A]

Sans this point that you're trying to figure out. Sans, like you asked, you got your questions, you got to ask.

[D]

Cool.

[C]

We know A bunch of Jersey chasers. Personally, we know a bunch of them. Right, right. So what I'm saying is if this person meets a. A dude and dog these. Chase.

[A]

Stay right there for a second with that Jersey chaser point.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[A]

Cuz I don't even believe that every guy gets the same woman.

[C]

I'm even still. They might not.

[D]

I don't. I don't.

[A]

I don't even agree with that.

[C]

I believe you.

[A]

You, I her. We not getting the same girl.

[C]

That's possible. That's true.

[D]

I'm not deep thinking. No, no, no, no, wait, look, I like that though.

[A]

I just don't believe in that. So we hear what he's talking.

[C]

I agree with.

[A]

Know my beliefs.

[C]

I agree with him. I already know his beliefs. What I'm saying is this. If.

[D]

Say it.

[A]

Find a way.

[C]

I'm trying to find a way.

[A]

Find a way. Don't name no names that we know.

[C]

No, no.

[D]

Just do that little trick.

[C]

We got a female friend.

[A]

See, I just told this motherfucker. Well, no, listen. No, listen.

[D]

It's a true story.

[C]

We got a female friend. So one day she hits me. She's like, yo, I'm having a dilemma. And I said, what's the dilemma? And she said, yo, I was dating this one dude that played on one coast. I was dating another dude that played on another coast. The dude just got traded to the same fucking team. Look at my luck. Like that. And she was like, yo, you think they know each other? And I'm like, stupid. These niggas was all. They known each other since they was teenagers, right? And she's doing her 1, 2 with both of them. Maybe unbut. Maybe unbeknownst to both of them. And that now your man that you known since you was a teenager, if you was claiming shorty and he was claiming shorty, you realize that a girl that you've been dating have been doing the wild thing tone loke with my man. That's something that I think the dude should know before he goes to the next level with the girl.

[A]

I think that that's a little different.

[C]

Based on what?

[A]

I think that you can name some.

[C]

Instances he's not an accountant.

[A]

Where I won't have a problem with the business behavior. You're saying you can name an instance where I can see what you're saying. Yeah, for the most part. For the most of us out here, I'm on the other side of it.

[C]

Most of us. Not Cam.

[A]

I'm not chastising Cam for his.

[C]

No, I'm Saying I don't also think.

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Let me ask you. This woman is your everything.

[A]

You love her.

[C]

And now you find out.

[E]

Y'.

[C]

All. Two, three years in, whatever. And now you find out. Oh, shit.

[A]

My.

[D]

My.

[C]

My rapper homies all popped or something like that at the same time.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

They.

[C]

Not a lot. That's not a lot in this business. This happens. This literally happened. I'm just not saying.

[A]

Rest of our dogs.

[C]

Yeah, but what do you do? What is. What do you. What is that?

[A]

I stayed with it for five years.

[C]

You know, he will. He did.

[A]

He will.

[C]

And so I already know.

[D]

I was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I know how he feels about the circumstances already.

[D]

I wouldn't care.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

I'm here for what I'm receiving out of this. There's nothing that you and homeboy or whatever you had before me that's gonna make me look at this different. Now, if I get to ask you questions I know the answer to already. And you lied to me in my faith. And I'm having. Why.

[C]

Why would you care?

[A]

Cause you're a lion. I don't care about that. I care about the lying. Yeah, you're lying.

[C]

Totally different to ISIS point saying that. Yo, they gonna lie anyway.

[A]

That's what I never said that.

[C]

Iced it. That's what I said.

[A]

I'm not arguing for that.

[C]

I'm not saying they're gonna lie, but.

[A]

I met girls that Even worse than I. What I used to say. They tell you the truth.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, you.

[C]

I want you to tell me.

[A]

You want to know all the information. Sit down with Betty for a second over some coffee.

[C]

You'll get to telling you some certain betties.

[A]

Yeah, some of them will tell you.

[C]

And guess what?

[A]

You're gonna ball up like a.

[D]

No, I'm not.

[C]

I respect that more than I respect respecting the chick lying. And now you can't respect balled up on the floor. Do you stay with him.

[A]

You can respect the ball. Hey, and she gonna start naming some. That was outside before you. You're gonna learn just how long she been outside. Mc Shan and them. Yeah, top billing. She gonna need some frogs before you. Hey, ask Shorty who The godfather. A kid I asked a question.

[C]

Grand pooba.

[A]

Big Daddy Kane coming over with gifts. This been outside forever.

[D]

Oh, man.

[A]

You think you found something new? Hey, yo, fellas. Check this out. Anytime you think you dad. That's one of the fellas. That's one of our myths. And we could close this and move on. That's one of the fellas myths that we make up to feel better and self medicate Is that. Yo, I found something new low, yo, I found something low. Yeah, you think yo by over there. And I don't never feel that.

[C]

That's what tell themselves Chris Rock said. Everybody done been a hoe for somebody unless she a virgin.

[D]

Everybody ain't.

[A]

Wife a right.

[C]

Somebody hit it, hit it and split it.

[A]

I'm weird. That's what I'm looking for. I mean, I'm looking for the chick that's gonna show me a good time. And that ain't coming from just a growing up with braces and marrying at 23. Sorry. I know the lifestyle that come with some of the girl I like to touch on my body. Now, that'd be the best. I had all types of you hoes touching my body. Know who do it the best. The that other done took to the circus. Work, work experience.

[E]

Work experience.

[A]

Sometimes they talk to me about it. Be like, nah, he look like, all right, go ahead, man. He showed you a good time. Go ahead. He took you to. I ain't introduced you to Carbone.

[C]

You.

[A]

You wasn't the one that showed the whole menu.

[D]

No, no, no.

[C]

When you get the shrimp, tell them do it like this. You like, show me shit.

[A]

You go to cat Steak on a date. And the way to say hi to you and her.

[E]

Joe, how you doing?

[A]

Oh, hey, Rebecca. You talking about you is lit out here, girl. Your shoe. Your shoe game is crazy. Playing like you is tough. Nah, nigga. I was in catch steak one night. I miss catch steak so much, yo. Oh, I used to see so much good in there. I was in there on like a date, like, for hours with my girl. So we got to see people come in and out. Nigga, I seen this girl.

[D]

Girl, no.

[A]

Walk a right to his car. Oh, and double back inside.

[C]

Game just come right.

[D]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[B]

That's probably two for one.

[A]

That's the other. Hey, that's the other dude. That's the other dude myth. However slick you think you are, they're slicker. This side has some slicker ones. You just might not have come and.

[B]

Grow the yet some.

[A]

They got the ones over the there. They just get to hide behind that old bearded lady and tears and. Oh, how could you treat me like this? Go. Yeah, I know. Wait till she get her get back.

[C]

No, most ain't see. And that's what.

[A]

That's what my problem was with Aisha Curry. Topic to come full circle, and then we could leave this because we unpacked that already. Men in relationships that have been cheated on before know that there are precursors to it. It's like that famous Ozark scene where. Where he was like, I don't remember who said it. You had a million chances to say no. You could have said no at the grocery. Could have said no when he texts you could have said no when he called. You could have said no when you met up. When you sucked the dick, you had a million chance to say no. Some of those lines, some of those precursors, people think Aisha Curry is hidden. Like when you hear your girl in the house talking about how she missed the glory days, or I missed out on the whole days. That could be. Be nothing. That could be nothing. That could be absolutely nothing. But it also could be.

[D]

Could be something, right?

[A]

Something. One. One for me that. That has been prevalent in life is, oh, you're not looking at me with the same eye. You looked at me like before. Thanks. Before I knew what that one meant. I just thought I took it at face value. Oh, I got changed. I look at you.

[C]

That don't mean that they don't. That outside looked at me with the new eye, right?

[A]

And, boy, did it feel good. It was. They was smashing. Boy, did it feel.

[C]

Yeah, he had a new car wash. He pulled up and gave me that old feel. Yep. Oh, I was at the car wash.

[A]

Why is it that no matter how dope y' all, swag is, new swag come kill it. Not y' all like, y', all, but me, too. I'm in there. No, no, like, why?

[C]

Why?

[A]

How would y' all think I'm shooting at y'? All?

[C]

No, no, no.

[A]

I wasn't like, why is that?

[C]

Is that. It's like us saying, yo, it's just human shit.

[D]

Dudes do the same shit.

[E]

Go ahead.

[C]

It's like when men say, ain't no like, new.

[A]

I never agreed with men when they said, I don't agree with that either.

[C]

But I don't understand the sentiment. No, because the new box could be trash. I'm just saying that that is essential.

[A]

The thrill.

[E]

There's a lot of things that come with that.

[A]

Enough of your bathroom break. Because that's the thing, too. As a man, as a present day man. You can't never say it.

[C]

Can't.

[A]

How many old was it? Hey, there's some of them old pussies, man. I slide the poker chips to the middle of the table. Goddamn.

[C]

Yo, y' all so phony.

[A]

Cause I've said that up here.

[B]

Y' all be like, we just did that again.

[A]

And they so easy to get back fly with. Like on a holiday. You fly. Yo, remember when.

[E]

Remember that?

[A]

All it take is a remember when I remember. Oh, that's it. Yo, remember we used to go to. We used to.

[C]

We.

[A]

We into that carnival. Remember we mine in the parking lot of the carnival when I the out of you at the carnival. You know, nobody ever. That was the only carnival experience I had like that.

[C]

And I met my girl. They did the thing Men in black. I don't remember none of that.

[E]

You girl hit you with the men in blackish Facts.

[A]

Memory wife was a good thing. She would have had her. What you call that? The memory stick.

[D]

USBs.

[A]

Yeah, her USB would have been overflow with some information over. Over. Hey, good thing you men in blacked yours. Boy, if I ever meet. I got to tell him.

[D]

I got to tell him.

[C]

Stop.

[A]

You ain't going to do that if.

[C]

I meet up so phony.

[A]

You can't. You can't.

[C]

His memory card light.

[E]

Nah, but see the difference is his girl. His girl know his memory card.

[C]

No, she don't.

[A]

She got. Oh, yes you do.

[C]

No, she don't.

[A]

Yes, you do.

[C]

You got some.

[D]

I do.

[A]

My girl who girl you think know more than memory card mine or yours?

[E]

That's a good question.

[A]

Sat him down. Sat him down.

[C]

You didn't. I didn't answer.

[A]

Sat him down. No, man, he didn't.

[D]

I hope you don't.

[C]

I think mine really.

[A]

Okay, that piece.

[E]

Let's go itch. No, I like that. This piece wipe me down.

[D]

I believe you, buddy. Let's go.

[E]

Look at.

[A]

Look at my man you talking about.

[D]

I'm like he's his best friend.

[E]

It's his best friend. That's what he said, right? Your girl's your best friend. You always say that.

[C]

I k. I don't lie often.

[E]

You don't lie.

[C]

If I dealt with a girl, whatever my past relationships with. With a girl, I tell my girl like that.

[D]

I believe you.

[C]

That literally so.

[D]

Nope, not my business.

[E]

Stop playing with my business. Yeah, y know what he do when he start doing look playing with the. Oh, playing at the bottom of the pan slide somebody.

[C]

No.

[D]

He knew that.

[A]

Just tussling.

[B]

Speaking of Ozark, I did finish.

[A]

Got no purple on in his outfit with the Kobe Lakers too. What you say?

[C]

My you finished block you on your Mac. She today when you come in here looking like rainbow bright like you really from new club scene. I ain't going to say nothing next time follow me. Yeah.

[A]

What you say, Parks?

[B]

I finished Black Rabbit. And you were right Everyone in that show is incredible.

[C]

Terribly stupid.

[B]

Every single person. Except for maybe the dad, the mob dad, the deaf dude. He was. He was on point. Yeah, he was on point. Everyone else, incredibly stupid. But it's a really good show to.

[A]

Have those amazing actors in there. I'm surprised that everybody was that stupid in that show.

[B]

I think had to have been the point a little bit.

[E]

Second episode. Yeah, I just stopped.

[A]

They wouldn't have a show if one of them was smart.

[B]

Literally anybody except for the pops.

[A]

I'm not caught up on Task.

[B]

Me new.

[A]

I gotta watch this week, but, boy, is Task smoking.

[B]

Yeah, last week's incredible.

[A]

Yeah, Task is smoking. It's so good that I'm purposely not caught up. Like, I might wait till I might. I might let the B build. 24 is one of the best shows.

[B]

Of all time, and that was 65 seasons long. This is, I think, a miniseries. I could be wrong, but I'm gonna.

[E]

Say, is it as good as that?

[A]

I think I seen it. No, it's not.

[B]

HBO with Mark Ruffalo and the brother from Ozark.

[D]

If you tell me hbo, I'm gonna watch it. Yep, HBO don't miss much.

[A]

They.

[B]

They haven't been that lately.

[C]

But this show, I think they slowed down on just putting out.

[A]

Yeah, Apple slowed them down. Right on down.

[B]

Paramount, too. Yeah.

[C]

They've been firing, and, you know, HBO don't be paying.

[B]

Is that true?

[C]

Mayor Kinsfeld on the way back. That's been their argument forever.

[D]

Oh, I just didn't know.

[C]

They wasn't even paying Tony Soprano back in the day.

[B]

I didn't know.

[C]

Yeah. Be fighting on HBO for some bread. Oh, oh, more networks now.

[D]

Speaking of tv, did y' all see SNL this weekend?

[B]

I did not.

[A]

I saw clips.

[D]

Yeah, the clips. I wish I had. I watched the whole thing beginning to end because I've been waiting for it to come back. Bad Bunny host Doja Cat performed.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Doja Cat actually watching her performance, actually liked it. Made me want to go back to the album again. It was one of the songs where she's actually rapping. It's not. I mean, again, it's a pop album, but there's a few things on there. It was good. Bad Bunny obviously didn't perform. They didn't have that kind of bread. He was there to host, not to perform. Usually they do both, but he ain't do that. I thought he was not so good. I thought his skits weren't very good. Some of them were terrible. I thought the whole show was missing and because SNL has lost a few major actors, actors, it made me feel like they should have wrote that check for the people that lost, especially the sister who's gone.

[C]

I really, A lot of times, dog, we take for granted some of the people behind the scenes. And some of the people behind the scenes might have been the pins in front of the camera be as important. But behind the scenes, a lot of that be writing some of that shit. Cause I was ask you, were the bad bunny scenes poorly written or poorly executed?

[D]

Both.

[C]

Gotcha.

[D]

I didn't think he executed well, but you know, a lot of times people come on there, I mean, Kim Kardashian didn't execute well, but they, they put in positions to win.

[C]

Right.

[D]

And, and that's where here the writer, the writing wasn't good. One of the skits I thought was really the whole Puerto Rican uncle thing. There was a Puerto Rican uncle skit that again, I love a good, I love that skit. I love the idea of it.

[A]

And I thought that was them putting him in a position to win.

[D]

That was, that was the strongest one. But I thought again, I thought that was just a little too long and went off the rail just a little bit at the end. But that was the best one of the, I think that was the best skit of the whole show. The thing about how the origin of language of Spanish I thought was bad. There was a few of them that were just bad. Even the Weekend Update, which is usually my favorite thing and it's hilarious. It was, it was one of the weaker ones I've seen.

[A]

I saw that get slammed, but I didn't think that was horrible. I saw, I saw the Weekend Update. I saw it with the new black dude who wanted to say Nick.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't love that one either.

[A]

I like that one. I like that one. Well, you like that? Tupo.

[B]

Has always been hit and miss.

[A]

That was my.

[B]

Yes, SNL's always hit and miss.

[D]

I just thought they've had a lot the last year I thought was really strong and I thought they'd hit a stride again because they had a down period. I thought they were hitting their stride. And then I just like when you cut writers and cut actors. I was hoping that the new people would be so good that I wouldn't miss it. But I, I, I just, it wasn't.

[A]

A lot of eyes were on them because this was the season opener and what happened with the, the past?

[B]

Well, also the 50 year anniversary was all fire, so you would think they would run with that momentum.

[D]

But, yeah, it was.

[A]

But it's always been hit and miss.

[B]

And it's funny because it's always like, man, SNL during such and such era was the best. And you go back and watch, and it was still hit and miss back in the glory days, like in the.

[D]

Chevy Chase era or the Eddie Murphy era. Yeah, they had a lot more hits than misses, though.

[E]

It's different, bro.

[D]

Eddie's always Eddie Arrows.

[A]

What do you think of Bad Bunny saying that people got four months to learn Spanish?

[B]

That's pretty funny.

[D]

He made me laugh.

[C]

Funny, son.

[D]

It made me. It made me laugh.

[C]

And I think it was a good way for him to lean into all the criticism. Yo, they don't even talk English. All right, we'll learn Spanish. N. I'm coming. You going hit it.

[D]

Spanish.

[C]

You going to hit it This.

[A]

I don't have no intention of learning Spanish. And I know he going to set that off. Well, now I don't have another hip. I was going to move my hips. Yo, bro, my hips up now.

[C]

They be all right by that time.

[A]

You be back?

[B]

Yeah, just stay at Newark a couple months.

[A]

It's not improving. Where?

[B]

The super bowl at San Francisco.

[C]

Oh, they got good hips.

[A]

Oh, my type of party.

[B]

See, like the Newark party.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

That ain't the goddamn event right there.

[B]

Talk about y.

[A]

They got a bunch of hills out there. Would you come speak at a panel at the. The gay convention?

[C]

How much they pay?

[A]

100 grand?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Would they have to pay more than the straight convention?

[C]

What I'm saying is it depends.

[D]

You see how he duck this? How you duck the context? Just keep talking.

[C]

It depends on what the the context is about the conversation surrounding the conversation.

[A]

Well, ain't no context. You up there nude. No, stop. What the. You know, with a wig on.

[C]

Your man always got a.

[A]

You up there dangling.

[E]

Brother is different.

[A]

Congest vest. Hey, yo, come on.

[C]

Oh, no. You was considering.

[A]

You heard him.

[D]

For a million, it'd be ingest fest.

[A]

Joseph.

[C]

Hey, Brother Minister. Brother Minister, you hear your man?

[A]

Hey, have you seen Brother Mark?

[E]

He has lost his way.

[D]

But we going to find him.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

Tell him come down to Chicago.

[C]

Yes. What? Y' all so sensitive.

[A]

And just. Yes, man, that's crazy. Salute to you. What else needs our attention? We did all our sports runs. Let's see what else.

[E]

I see Wendy Williams on the board, Joe. I wanna know what that means.

[D]

Yeah, it's just sad, man. I'm really sad to hear the two things I've heard about Wendy Williams in the last Four to eight hours. And salute to Wendy Williams, who I know and love. We love you, Wendy Legend. I heard that she's entering memory care.

[B]

What was that?

[D]

Which is tough. Memory care is the stage of care, usually in nursing homes, where there's, like, independent living, where you just kind of in a community of older people and then there's like, skilled nursing, where you're getting, like, somebody helping you with things, just, you know. Memory care is when you're at the point where you don't have your bearings, where you're not, where you have such a cognitive deficit that you may not know what day it is. You might. You might not remember people. It could be. There's different. There's different kinds of memory care, but ultimately it means you're not in a place to really take care of yourself at all anymore. You know, I spend a lot of time in nursing homes, obviously with my. My family. And I mean, memory care is not where you want to be, and you don't return from memory care. You know what I mean? So it's tough. Then. The second thing I just want to pull it up so that I have the exact quote is that there are reports that people are still not. That her money's not being protected, that people aren't necessarily looking out for her in the way that when we say people specifically. I'll read a story from New York magazine. I'm going to read the quote.

[A]

Okay?

[D]

It said, then fix that mic. It said then. On around January 18, at Shiller's request, the Miami Dade Police Department went to Hunter Jr. S apartment to check on Williams. That's her son. According to sealed court filings at that time, however, both Williams and her son were at a nearby branch of Wells Fargo, where Hunter Jr. Was asking to be granted his mother's power of attorney. They were accompanied by an Entertainment lawyer named LaShawn Thomas, an attorney for William Williams ex husband, Hunter's junior, Hunter Jr. S father. Williams was allegedly unresponsive, disoriented, and barely able to write. And so the bank said no. Two weeks later, Hunter Jr. Returned again with his mother. This time, Thomas was on speakerphone, and the two demanded that the bank allow him to withdraw $25,000 of his mother's money. They also insisted that he become the primary contact for her financial affairs. A withdrawal of this size, the bank decided was, quote, out of cash character. And they blocked the transaction. Shout out to the bank in response, Hunter Jr. And Thomas allegedly berated employees. Williams, appearing weak, stood aside in silence when staff tried to speak with her, Hunter Jr. Intervened.

[A]

So I'm not so fast to shout out the bank because by Wendy's story, the bank is fouled too.

[D]

How so?

[C]

I'm just saying in just this part.

[D]

Here, I'm just shouting the bank out for not. For not just giving the money over. They could be wrong in every other area, but I've just seen people not pay attention to those cues and just give people's money away. But the bank could be completely wrong in all of this. I don't know who's right or who's wrong, but I know those two data points are very alarming to me. One where Wendy is and what this bank's account is and the fact that she's in memory care sort of corroborates the story that she wasn't capable of making a decision.

[C]

She was in a sound mind.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, I don't know who's right or wrong. I'm not making any allegations against anybody. But this is a sad story. And if what we read here is there's some accountability that needs to be had from members of her family who don't seem to have her best interests at heart. If again, the accounts are true.

[A]

Well, this is real sensitive because it's basically like a battle of who do you believe? Right. Like there's gonna be multiple parties that come out and say Wendy Williams is not of sound mind and health to be able to make certain decisions. But you got Wendy, who's been on this kind of press mission the last few months to say, hey, I'm fine, I can make my own decision decisions, yada, yada, yada. I don't know enough about it either way. But those are the two sides that I see being fought here.

[D]

That's true, yeah. The problem is if you're not of sound mind, you don't know you're not of sound mind. It's like asking a drunk person if they're sober. Right. Very few people, you know, can self assess when they're impaired. And the problem is if you are having severe mental decline, you don't know you are. You think this is the first time we're having this conversation and it might be the fifth and the next time we have it, you're once again going to think it's the second time. So in her mind she is, she is mentally short. Again, I don't, I'm not a psychiatrist.

[A]

Well, well, to respond to that, I'm not mad at that. Right. That's a fair point you made from Wendy's pov Let's assign someone who is not attached to someone that I have an ongoing legal battle with or someone that looks to come up off of this decision to determine whether I'm of sound mind.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Because Wendy has said something about the who the judges have appointed it. My kid who's tied to my ex husband who I've had years of ongoing shit with. So there should be someone who's not deemed to profit off the decision that should be able to make some neutral.

[D]

And that's why I don't want the son walking into a bank trying to strong arm allegedly a power of attorney from her. I agree with you.

[C]

From my knowledge, the bank can't grant him power of attorney.

[D]

No, they can't.

[C]

You understand what I'm saying? Like so you can walk in there a thousand times. Yeah. The bank cannot grant you power of attorney. So if Wendy Williams is not coherent, the bank is not gonna allow her to perform any transactions whatsoever. If she's not coherent.

[D]

I've seen so many times, unfortunately in my own family where elderly people have been strong armed. Into the bank. Mom, just come to the bank with me real quick and sign this paper. Just. And a lot of times people in the bank don't care. And maybe if this weren't Wendy Williams. Williams, they wouldn't care. They might not have been paying attention to it.

[C]

You know, we reported on the story maybe a couple years ago over there. Remember that story?

[A]

The.

[C]

The dude was dead and he tried.

[D]

To get him in Brazil.

[E]

In Brazil? Yeah, she brought, she brought her.

[C]

She brought the dead dude in there to try to get the money out the bank.

[A]

Oh, that's crazy weekend at Johnny's. Yeah.

[C]

Money make you man. Yeah, money different. It definitely is different.

[D]

Well, I prayed for the best for Wendy Williams. I know a lot strong feelings about her, but I think, I think who. Whatever you think about Wendy Williams and I happen to love her same. No one deserves to. To go through that, go through this.

[A]

Nobody.

[D]

Nobody.

[A]

Yeah. Shout out to Wendy Williams. I hope, I hope she. I hope her health is fine. And I hope that money ends up somewhere that it belongs. Yeah, somewhere it belongs. That's the thing. Rich. Not even rich. Wealthy people dying with money. The government wants your money. Did everybody want your money?

[C]

Can't get it though. Why is it that she got ears so the government can't get your bread? Because in the event that she passes away, then the state rules will take place and the money has to be allocated. The only time the money really. The government really gets your bread. Is if you don't have any living heirs. It's called, I think, escheat.

[D]

What sheet?

[C]

Oh, I don't know how to pronounce it. E S C H E A T.

[A]

You would try to name it the. Is she trying to get somebody money? It ain't an is she. It ain't an is she. Yo, this guy's an idiot. I don't have nothing. I can't read the Arabic that Mark put up there.

[D]

Oh, that's. It's just time for my favorite part of the show.

[A]

No. Am I trying to. No, we don't. Hell no. Yo, the same spam number keeps calling me. It's been two weeks now, but it's the same number I identify.

[C]

Send me the number. You calling a spam.

[D]

Huh?

[A]

Answering these.

[C]

Send it to me. Her name's Spam now.

[A]

Y. Y. I'mma you up when I catch you. Watch. See what I. Anyway, I think we covered.

[C]

Covered.

[A]

I think we covered everything. I'm ready to cover up. That's not true. That's not true. I'm on record saying that first of all, I'm with AI. I think it's going to be up to humans. I think it's going to be up to humans to adapt with some of this shit, figure out how it's useful to us. I think it will ultimately end up in the hands of evildoers as well. And we're going to have to figure out what to do with that.

[C]

Ultimately. It's already there.

[A]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I also think that one of the best uses usages of AI is Beanie Siegel's voice. Sure. Getting right in us and us hearing that music that used that. That. That was my number one reason that AI is good. Could till maybe 3 days ago. Maybe it's algorithmic, but they got me my timeline and I bookmarked it for your viewing pleasure. Is filled with nothing but Stephen Hawkins at the X Games.

[B]

Oh, dog, dog.

[C]

I know I wasn't supposed to.

[A]

Yeah, yo, first, that was real. Yo. Be respectful. First of all, true. Everybody being adult, nothing that we saying is funny. But Stephen Hawkins is the guy from the movie they made in the. In the fancy wheelchair with the brilliant mind who. He did some. He came up with calculus or something, right? Stephen Hawkins is one of them. Genius Einstein Hawkins. Stephen Hawking is doing the 1997 X game. You see it?

[D]

I'm pulling it up now. Now I need just.

[C]

Yo, could we, like, let anybody see that first? Let me see.

[A]

It's not funny, yo.

[C]

No, we not Trying to lie.

[B]

Yo, what they got going up the D?

[A]

Let me see, let me see, let me see.

[B]

What is wrong with them?

[A]

So I have. I have him bull riding.

[C]

Oh, wait, I ain't see.

[A]

All right, do here, look. This him bull riding right here for you. Look, check it out. No way.

[D]

I'm watching the skateboard right now.

[C]

I saw the.

[D]

Where he was.

[B]

He's in the wrestling ring. Yo, famous.

[A]

I have him. That's the one. That's the one I have Fight.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I have him in a UFC ring. Seeing ufc. Yeah, I got him Stephen Hawking. He in the UFC ring. It's not funny, yo, for real. Oh, look, this is him. Look, doing the.

[B]

Now they got him on my.

[A]

They got him doing the cool running. Yeah, they got him on Maury.

[D]

Y' all are terrible people.

[A]

Y' all think that's funny? They got him deep diving, too. Look, check it out.

[C]

That's. Y' all think.

[B]

Look.

[D]

Oh, my God. How much you is. This ain't funny.

[B]

This is horrible.

[A]

They got him doing funny. Look. No, for real.

[E]

Hello, Nigga, that same app. I saw Dr. King in the wrestling ring saying, I no longer have a dream. I am the dream. And they fucking boom, moved him.

[A]

Check them out. Check him out. Off the top rope, though, in the wrestling ring, about to serve one of these with the wheelchair. Check him out. It's not funny. The Professor, Yo. Yo, what happens? We got him on Maury. Oh, we got him getting attacked.

[C]

He's on the Eagles.

[A]

He getting attacked by alligator. He just caught a ton alligator. Him up now.

[B]

Oh, now the Seahawks.

[A]

My bad, my bad. Y', all, look. Now he just drowning with the chill. This is not funny.

[B]

This is. This is horrible.

[D]

See, this is like. I. I've been known to have a dark sense of humor. I don't actually find that funny.

[A]

Me either.

[D]

I'm not offended. I'm not offended by it. I just. It just didn't make me laugh.

[A]

Check him out in his Tony Hawk bag. Look at him. He bodying Tony Hawk, yo, when the flipped over. Come on, stop playing with Stephen Hawk.

[C]

I don't care what y' all say.

[A]

That funny. That's funny. This is some of the funniest.

[D]

A lot of mean people.

[A]

This is some of the funniest ever. But it's not.

[E]

However, there we go.

[A]

Because how do we feel about this is. What's that?

[C]

Sorrow.

[A]

Sora. Sora. Sora.

[C]

Open AI.

[A]

Sora is open AI, which has the ability to just take dead people and make them do anything. If you've seen some Michael Jackson and Prince running around that.

[D]

See that one I like.

[A]

That's them too.

[C]

It don't look like Prince. It look just like Mike.

[A]

But we're not supposed to. Supposed to like it because this is what Marvin Gaye's family been fighting for all of this time, and they don't play. We're not supposed to like it because you can't just take the rights of our greats and their dead and do this without permission from an estate.

[D]

I feel that. I feel that. I don't. I could live without all of it.

[C]

Me too.

[D]

From a legal perspective, from all that stuff, ethical or whatever. I think if it's funny, I can live. When Michael Jackson and Prince arguing for who had a better funeral, I think. Think it's funny. You know, I don't. The Stephen Hawking thing, I don't. I just don't find funny.

[C]

I don't think the Stephen Hawking thing is funny. But if you. Michael Jackson's heirs or if you Prince his heirs, you might not find that shit funny neither.

[A]

You have a problem with that?

[D]

Yeah, and I'm not. I don't think there was. Ethically, legally, I think we should. I can do without all of it.

[C]

I can do it out of it.

[D]

But, you know, I don't know how long we can keep that at bay. I mean, if people are doing this much, I don't know what the world's gonna look like in five years. Like, is anything gonna be real?

[C]

Well, we.

[A]

At that point, if you niggas ever decided to stand up and fight for something, then we'd have a different conversation. This is part of what those movie people were. Were striking about, was what they will be, what will be permissible with air.

[B]

And this is where it gets scary. When you see fucking everybody in Fang standing behind Trump at the inauguration or whatever that was. Yeah, like, it's a tech. What do they call it? Techno?

[C]

Technical.

[B]

Technocracy.

[D]

Technocracy, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's where it gets scary, is the people that are. Are in power are the people that are making money or building these platforms.

[C]

Man.

[A]

You should be petrified of that mark because you fight for so many things, right? So, like, they could potentially take your likeness and make you fight for something that you were totally against.

[D]

Absolutely. It's terrifying.

[A]

It's terrifying, bro.

[C]

They could come out with video evidence of you doing some shit that you didn't. And that's what I've been saying for a long time. You're on trial for this. You know, you didn't do, do it. And we got video of you doing it. No. And your voice and everything, it's you.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

They could put us in a bank in, in, in Wyoming right now, robbing the bank, doing mad. They have our video, they have our audio and we what? We never been to Wyoming.

[B]

That's true. I mean they would still have to present where they got the information from. Not to say they wouldn't still do something nefarious, but they can't just be like, oh, here's the video. It's real like this. Nothing. Yeah, all right, you're right.

[C]

Like I, I think our thing is, yo, you guilty, you got to prove your innocence. So if you don't have a, a stone cold alibi of where you were.

[D]

You going to spend two weeks in jail.

[C]

Speak or more speaking of guilt and videos. Proven innocence. Yeah. What are your thoughts on this Kyron Lacy situation? Yeah, same, same.

[D]

Can you break down what it is?

[E]

Cuz I know that bothered me.

[C]

Kyron Lacy was a young man that was a world class athlete. He played football for lsu. Right, for lsu. And a car accident happened and I think which a gentleman was killed. Rest in peace to the gentleman. And they blame Kyron Lacey's driving on the death of this young man. I mean of this older, older man. Older gentleman. Kyron Lacey's car wasn't even involved in the accident. Well, wait, before that, just because that's all stuff we found out later on. He's, he's arrested, loses like he was out of the draft, like he, he was getting ready to go.

[D]

He was untouchable.

[C]

He was one of them. Yeah, he's one of them in football. And he lost everything. And as a result of him losing all of those things and being claimed, I mean being charged and accused unfairly, he then been self transition. You understand what I'm saying? So as a result of that, now we've come to realize his car wasn't involved in the accident. He was like damn near football field away when the accident happened. I think they said he was 92 yards, 92 yards away when the accident happened. All of that shit, it's like, yo, my nigga, they accused of this young man of these horrendous things. Imagine what they could do with AI if they wanted to be. Make him guilty.

[E]

Yeah, you know what, real quick, that story bothered me. Now that I know more details that you guys provided, I understand, but I was saying that why. And I don't want to be insensitive, I just didn't understand why he chose that option if he was innocent. If he was innocent. You know what I mean? And when I found out more because I'm like, okay, how I felt is I just go to court. Court and prove your innocence and get the camera, let it play out and. But then you guys are providing that he was not only. He was removed from the draft. A lot of opportunities was taken from him. I'm not here to judge, but there's something that triggered me. It's like, yo, why you didn't. Because they said, I saw his girl talking about it on the podium about the racist cop is his fault that this happened and she's going to fight for justice. You know what I mean?

[D]

So a lot of innocent people kill themselves in prison. A lot of innocent people kill themselves outside of prison. A lot of times it's the pressure sometimes it's the insurmountable odds you face.

[B]

The feel that you're facing.

[D]

I can't win, you know, So I don't. I don't. I know you're not. I don't assume that because someone killed themselves or whatever that they were guilty. Sometimes it's just too much. But this is awful.

[A]

I think a lot of people will do it if you strip them of their life.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

And again, looking at our odds, he might innocent at all. I don't stand a chance against. I'm looking to see where he grew up. Because a lot of times, a lot of that stuff is based on what people have seen, bro. Like, yo, you got to think about. It's people that take 20 and 30 year.

[A]

Please.

[C]

Knowing that you didn't commit a crime because you feel like, yo, my. My options are gone. It's nothing but despair. I can't beat these people. I grew up. Grew up in neighborhoods where they planted on my whole life or where they falsely accused people of things my whole entire life. And those people didn't overcome it. So I feel like I'm facing a losing battle.

[D]

I'll take this 20 instead of death row 24 life.

[A]

And you're asking young people to know that how you feel today is maybe not how you'll feel tomorrow. Right. It's not how you felt yesterday. You're talking about a young college kid who had his entire life flipped upside down. Flipped upside down. Down in the blink of an eye for something that had zero to do with him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just again media and what's being said in the town. Whatever town that is. Were they whispering into college what my.

[C]

Yes, There was a dude who he. He retweeted his tweet once his video came out. And it was originally tweeted right when this whole thing happened. And he was like, listen, y', all, I think a lot of y' all should pump your brakes on what y' all are doing to this kid right now. He's like, I live here. I know these cops. Don't be surprised if more information comes out later. But this particular area, just pump your brakes because everybody immediately like damn near crucified him.

[A]

This is a huge story.

[C]

I mean, all over the Internet, everything, it was, it was all of the media heads, everybody was. Had something like, how dare you. So that coupled with what I'm possibly facing, that's a lot on a king.

[E]

I understand. No, I understand now. I didn't know how much he lost. I didn't. I didn't know. So when I heard the story, I was just like, you know, I believe in fighting, but I don't want to take anything from him neither. Or judge him. Especially if you feel like your back is against the wall.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

So rest in peace.

[A]

Somebody's self transition. Shut the fuck up. Before you start saying, I wonder why he did that.

[E]

I mean, you are. Yeah. I mean you talk about self. You talk about your views on self transition is different from my views.

[C]

True.

[E]

I'm ignorant to it. Your views are different because of experience. Me, I have.

[A]

You got the same experience in it, you know.

[E]

No, but I have a fight.

[C]

I think you do have a. Hold on.

[D]

Let me just say this.

[E]

I have a go down fighting mentality. Whether it's good or bad. That's just how I think when I hear you, I hear you talk about self transitioning and you don't have really a stance on it. No, no, no. Meaning you're very mindful how you criticize people. We have said here before. I've said here before. I get mad at a family member for doing that because I had a cousin. I had three people in my family that self transitioned and I always wanted to know why. Why did you cause this pain on our family? That's how I thought when I came up here and how you talk about it, you basically say like you don't know what the person person went through and you just had a whole thing. I remember it was a whole topic and I don't want to come in becoming Joe's.

[C]

They flip though. You said go down fighting, like that's, that's what if that person did like they have no more fight left Like.

[A]

I fought as much as I can.

[C]

There's nothing. Or you saying, yo, you bringing this hurt to my family. But your family could be being selfish and looking at it that way, because this person might have been going through their own pain and they wanted stop.

[E]

It's not a good feeling.

[A]

I don't find outstanding.

[E]

I'm just saying it's not a good feeling. I got a cousin. It's not a good feeling when you have somebody, have a child or children, and you don't have the answers of or you didn't have the conversation of what you're going through, the first thing you're gonna think is like, yo, damn, why? And you see the pain that it caused the family. It's not until I came up here and I hear what Joe talk about. It's not until like, okay, I didn't think about it from the other side.

[A]

Right. Right. Yeah.

[D]

Rest in peace to your cousin.

[A]

Everybody shout. To anybody out there that's fighting a silent battle, man, y' all know we with you up here. JBP cares if don't nobody else care.

[C]

That's a fact.

[A]

And if you give yourself a shot, give yourself a shot. Tomorrow's not today. I feel for Kylie and his family.

[D]

Rest in peace for having a reason.

[B]

Rest in peace to the gentleman that lost his life in the. In the first place as well.

[A]

Yes, for sure. For sure.

[C]

There should be something really unfortunate, something like somebody should be held accountable for that, though. Whoever lied, every liar, every person in there in the law enforcement and all of that, that pushed it. I think.

[D]

I feel alive.

[A]

Mike. Shack. One, two, one, two, one, two. Rest in peace. If you listening, you lost somebody out there. Excited. I'm so excited. All right. I think our board is covered with the exception of Smash and Machine, the rocks movie where he was playing. Who was he playing? Ben.

[B]

Mark.

[A]

Mark. Where the did I get Ben from just that fast? You can tell I ain't no jerk. Mark her. This is the role that he looked different. Y' all know the role. This is the one where it got a standing ovation at Sundance. This is the role that the talk was he could win. He could win an Oscar for the movie. Look, that movie. It does look good. It's been released, and they're calling it a flop because opening week brought back back $6 million. From what I read, this movie cost $50 million to make and $50 million to market. They needed to break c. 100 million to break even. If you open at 6 million. Yeah.

[C]

I'mma be honest.

[A]

Outside And I'm still going to see it.

[C]

I'm going to see it. I want to see this movie outside of the trailer before another movie I went to go see. I didn't see about this movie. I was about to say they did a shitty job on marketing. I didn't see anything.

[D]

I didn't know anything.

[C]

I didn't know it was out.

[D]

Me either.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

I only saw the trailer going to see other movies.

[B]

And there's been some good movies out lately too, so that don't help either. It's competition in the field.

[A]

They're trying to use this to slight the rocks box office power.

[C]

How can you.

[B]

I feel like they're trying to use this to draw marketing to get the that number to a different number that.

[C]

I. I would agree.

[B]

Because we ain't really heard about the movie until we heard that it flopped.

[A]

Yeah, it's a fact.

[C]

And now we're gonna be like, yo, let's go support the rock and go watch this.

[D]

Does it work that way though? Because I know sometimes when I see something's a flop, I stay away from. Like I didn't go watch G. Cuz everybody said how bad it wasn't because it flopped. Right. So I mean could what I saw other Jennifer Locus.

[C]

You did not say Julia.

[A]

Is that what the. You just said?

[D]

There's a perfect example though, cuz Ben.

[B]

Solid.

[D]

Perfect.

[A]

Wait, we laughing because you wanted to see it before the word got out?

[D]

No, what I'm saying is I only knew about G. Lee because it was marketed. It was. It was presented as a flop like that. They made this movie. They overestimated who these two would be together. And it didn't make me say, oh, let me go and let me go find out more.

[B]

Look like a good movie to begin with.

[D]

I don't know anything about it.

[C]

And you're a black man. Yo, I'm gonna go support the rock.

[A]

I'm not gonna go support think it's all about fucking.

[D]

Okay, take Gigi off the table. My point is this guy, y' all really losing the plot. My point is, does hearing that something's a flop necessarily make you go see it? Or does it make you think, oh something this might really stink and I don't want to watch it?

[C]

No, it depends on what. It depends on what it is. The numbers don't mean to me. I don't care about the camera.

[B]

When I saw the theater, the movie trailer in the theater, I said I want to go see a movie. I didn't know it was out. I probably Would have seen it. See, Although I went to the movie to see other movies, but that's the other problem. Like I said, there's a lot of good movies out right now, so I'm gonna go see it. But especially now, knowing that it's not doing well, that's even more reason to go. I didn't know how.

[D]

It's good. I'll go see. I. I actually like the Rock.

[A]

And I did. That's what determines oh, they ho. Oh, yeah. All right, man. I knew you liked the Rock.

[D]

I didn't think he was a good actor. I didn't know if he was a good actor or not. And then when I actually watched Ballers and watched him, that was the first time I got to actually watch him over a sustained period of time act. I was like, oh, he's actually a good actor. So now I would check him out.

[A]

Ballers was a really good show. In the name of Ballers, Ballers bring back Team Arlis, another classic.

[B]

It's rated, well, 72 on Rotten Tomatoes, 7 on IMDb. It's not bad.

[A]

Better than G. I'm gonna check it out. But I mean, I should know about it because I'm the guy that just go to the movies to see any movie.

[D]

You only watch 20 minutes of you.

[C]

Got and you're gonna buy 77 tickets.

[A]

So, you know that's a fact. I'm gonna go see this movie. I still haven't seen the Jonathan. The Jonathan Majors movie.

[B]

Oh, I do. I see that.

[A]

I haven't seen it yet. And everybody said that that was.

[C]

What's the name of it? Magazine song.

[A]

The magazine. See Magazine magazine.

[C]

But that just goes to show you that. But both of these movies, the marketing ain't out there.

[A]

Well, that marketing.

[B]

Both these movies are indie movies. 824. Yeah. So they're not necessarily. They're hit and miss for me.

[A]

I love them.

[B]

Sometimes they're really weird and it's good. Sometimes they're really weird and it's just really weird.

[A]

If they got really weird and it was really weird, that's after they made all their money.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

That's after they became big. Big.

[B]

Where the lady had the goat baby. That was weird.

[A]

What was that? What was that?

[B]

I don't know. But she had a goat baby.

[C]

Crazy good or crazy bad?

[B]

Weird. Crazy weird.

[A]

A24 is fire.

[B]

They do have some fire.

[C]

I gotta find the name of that movie.

[A]

Goat Lady. A24 does those movies better than the field.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even if they miss. I don't really know too many of the A24 films that have missed. But whatever.

[B]

I'm Dick R. No, I've seen a lot lot. And this it be real. Sometimes it's too far left.

[A]

All right. I'd like a check from them. Shut up.

[B]

My bad.

[C]

824.

[A]

We got to start telling our co workers who we would like a check from that important part.

[B]

Lamb.

[A]

I didn't see lamb.

[B]

That actually help.

[A]

Don't buy. Don't buy again.

[C]

The lady delivered a lamb.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

All right. I'm good.

[C]

It could be metaphorical. Yeah, I want to check from them to any.

[A]

Anybody. So.

[C]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[A]

No, not. That ain't. I don't believe that about you anyway. That ain't true.

[C]

I ain't you, Joe.

[A]

You got two. You know, you got too many morals and too much morals and integrity to take a check from anybody. That's not true. You parting.

[C]

Oh, no, no, no. Yeah.

[E]

I'm.

[C]

I'm talking about within reason.

[A]

Oh, within the. That you with.

[C]

Yo, if.

[D]

If give him a check, he'll be at the fest with me.

[C]

What fest?

[A]

In just fest. He would, though. That's why I don't like this part podcast.

[C]

Which one is I got too much morals integrity or I be it in just fest?

[D]

I don't see how you contradict yourself in just fest.

[E]

That's not a thing.

[A]

No, I think that you have. I don't think your morals and integrity will keep you away from ingest fest.

[E]

Yo, stop.

[C]

No, some is some mark made up.

[A]

It depend. It depend on what the panel was talking about.

[C]

Yo, then Jess fest. Y' all said I gotta go up there bucky naked.

[A]

No, that was me being. That was being funny.

[D]

You can put a little dick sock on cowboy hat.

[A]

Speed up. Make it a puppet though. Yo, this guy don't just let it be a normal sock. Hey, get a Sharpie. All right.

[E]

Okay, enough.

[D]

You make it flip uncomfortable.

[A]

Hey, make it a seal.

[E]

Easy.

[A]

What's some other light skinned animals?

[C]

Light skinned animals ain't light skinned.

[A]

I wouldn't though. I'm sorry. Shout out to seal too. I can't believe that Christy Brinkley got with the Billy Joel.

[B]

Still had.

[E]

He's still on that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What I can see that's pulling him.

[E]

Oh, body it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Sealed. I know the ugly joke. I get it. And hey, he may be.

[D]

I don't think he is. There's a lot of people that would.

[A]

Say, nah, Billy Joel looked like a. A dick sock.

[D]

So that's how it be. Happening. What's the name? Remember Julia Robertson? Married. Was it la? Love it. Who married. Was that Julie?

[C]

He's Billy Joel.

[A]

Billy Joe Money is different from Seal.

[D]

Billy Joel was that dude.

[B]

And he was charismatic.

[D]

Yeah, Billy Joel was that dude charismatic.

[A]

How was your date?

[B]

On a date with Billy Joel? You crazy.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Play piano man for me, Billy for extra moose.

[A]

For sure.

[C]

We talk about yo, Billy Joel.

[A]

I don't have nothing else on my topic list that we need to get. Get to do. Do y' all know the story about JT's dis songs not being available on streaming anymore? And Cardi going to Starlets on Sunday and saying, I spent your streams 20, 25,000.

[D]

I love her. This what we said was gonna happen. Don't talk money with Cardi.

[A]

Yeah, you can't. And she was talking money, right?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's.

[C]

That was. But what happened with the strength Bad Game?

[A]

I mean, they say that they was at 25,000. I didn't check them, but whatever they was, if. If you're op. If whoever you was talking about go in the club and spend a do. Why the songs was off streaming, I don't know. I just wanted to get to the tea. That was just like a trick to pretend to care about facts. Yo, they said they took it off stream.

[E]

Cardi was install it, y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

You know your man is a bird, right?

[A]

I thought about going that night, too, but my hit. Yeah, my head come pivot. My hit, huh?

[C]

Come pivot.

[A]

No.

[C]

Need your hip to pivot.

[A]

And when I went to the strip club the other day, she thought about that hard wooden chair. Mighty comfy for you. And, yeah, it's like a Shut up, girl. Anyway, all right. I am pleased with everything.

[C]

It's a good day at work.

[A]

I'm pleased with the job that you guys have done unpacking these topics. I feel like I have learned a lot about Cam Newton and Bronnie and Aisha Curry and Taylor Swift. Hey, we didn't get to Taylor Swift.

[D]

Taylor Smith.

[A]

Do it on Patreon because I want to curse at her. And I wouldn't do that publicly.

[B]

Yeah, smart, smart, smart.

[A]

Man. I wouldn't do that publicly. 2.1 million, right? Fox. I thought it was three.

[D]

Three, three.

[B]

We'll take it on picture. We'll talk about.

[A]

They said she out there shooting at Travis X. X. Yeah, his ex. Yeah. Charlie. Did anybody here at least hear the Taylor Swift album?

[D]

I did.

[B]

I heard it.

[A]

Yeah. Did y' all like it?

[E]

Did you like it?

[D]

I think it's the worst Taylor Swift album I've ever heard.

[B]

I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan. I guess we're doing now.

[A]

I didn't love it either. Let me play some of the Slabs.

[D]

For real. The one with Sabrina Carpenter is not. Is the best one.

[A]

Perfect. It was you and me hand in.

[C]

Hand like slow motion in the movies.

[A]

I braid my hair just because I can.

[C]

We stay up late.

[A]

New Taylor. That's Dance in the Sun.

[E]

That's not dancing.

[D]

What the. This is up.

[E]

That's a video, you idiot.

[D]

Throw more glitter in the air.

[B]

That was a good. Actually, that was the best Taylor Swift album review I could have. I think you did. You did it all.

[A]

You did.

[D]

Well done, y'.

[A]

All crazy. Oh, my God. Yo, we'll talk more about Taylor Swift on Patreon. On Patreon.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Good friend of mine, one of my. One of my main. My main guys throwing an event tonight. You know what I mean? I don't know if I'll see all y' all there. I'm going to go out and support my man.

[B]

I'm going try to make it.

[A]

I'm going try to make it, support my man.

[D]

They told me it was sold out. I don't know if you could pull a string for me. I don't think he going to let me in on.

[A]

He has been running around with that soul outline. Yeah, we got to see. We got.

[D]

He getting his bag now.

[A]

We got to see what? Sold out. Yeah, we got. We going to check shape ups. Look different. You got a haircut.

[D]

Yo, it's not just a haircut. You look like number three on the wall, dog.

[C]

At number three.

[A]

That's funny. Oh, man, E, I can't wait for your event, man. There you go.

[D]

This one to you.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, let's go.

[D]

E, this is for you.

[E]

My number one.

[A]

Your ass down. Does anybody have anything here that's pressing against their heart, mind, body, spirit, soul, conscious? Anything. A nerve. Your hip. Shout out to anybody out there with a hip replacement listening too. I got new respect for y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

My hip is finito. I gotta go to the auto body shop. I gotta go, man. What's up? Y' all got anything? Y' all cool? Y' all cool? Y' all cool? Y' all cool with ending it right here? Here. Leave. Leaving it where it is.

[E]

Let's end on the high.

[A]

Squashing it. Yeah, all right.

[E]

Let's end on the high, brother.

[A]

All right, cool. Say less. Great show. I think so. Oh, let's go. Enough. How come you not Rob, when this album was out, I don't understand that.

[C]

Was that old last 38.

[A]

Not back then. Yeah, not back then.

[D]

All right, man.

[A]

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a due farewell. Adios. Are la vista arvois so long about simple head knob will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

[C]

Go.

[D]

So stroke.

[E]

Glow.

[D]

God damn. I got a show and.

[E]

Yo, what up.

[D]

Sellers?

[A]

What y' all doing this week? Anything.

[D]

Anything.

[C]

Anything.

[D]

Anything.

[A]

Anything interesting this week?

[D]

Moving around.

[A]

Anything interesting? We moving around. Laying something down. What's up?

[D]

What's happening?

[C]

Going to the comedy show Thursday.

[B]

O we going to see?

[D]

We going to see.

[C]

It's Tony, Rock, J, Pharaoh D Ray, Cory Hul at the Beacon.

[A]

Where's Fire?

[C]

At the Beacon Theater.

[B]

It's Wednesday, the same day as is Thursday.

[C]

Oh, that's Thursday.

[A]

That's Fire. Fire. Fire.

[C]

It's. It's Cam.

[B]

Oh, word.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[D]

What else y' all got? What else y' all got? I got. Got nothing, man. I'm just going to go to e joint tomorrow night, and other than that, going to be on my Patreon.

[B]

There you go.

[C]

There you go. Hey, subscribe to that Patreon.

[D]

Yes, sir. What's up with y'?

[A]

All?

[D]

Hey, you know everybody's talking about the.

[A]

Good old days, right?

[C]

No. Joe Biden.

[A]

Flip. What you want this week, man?

[E]

I gotta go to Baltimore.

[A]

Oh, and you got a Baltimore?

[E]

I got a HBCU this weekend.

[A]

What letters? Wait, what he said? He said it right?

[B]

He didn't say.

[D]

Very confident, right?

[A]

Which one?

[D]

We'll say it again.

[E]

Where you going to be in Delaware?

[D]

Going to Del State?

[E]

I think so milfy. Set it up.

[D]

So shout out to milfy.

[E]

Yeah, gotta go up there. Got some. Some content, so I'll let you in Baltimore.

[C]

Hbcu.

[E]

No, no, no, no. I can't talk about Baltimore.

[C]

Oh, yeah, we gotta go down there.

[E]

Come down there with me, man.

[C]

I gotta go down there.

[A]

Hey, you wanna go down there with him?

[C]

Never.

[A]

Going to get said you can't talk about it.

[E]

My hopes down.

[C]

You might be on the west side doing some.

[E]

Nah, I'm not doing nothing. Investigative work.

[A]

Y' all hold it down this week, man. We'll be back same time, same place this weekend. Stay safe, remain dangerous. All of that good stuff till next time.

[D]

Scientific. My hand.

[A]

Kiss it.

[D]

Robotic listing Optimistic you probably missed it.

[A]

Watch me Dolly thinking last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure.

[B]

They still like this.

[C]

I didn't say.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

His face.

[A]

Tell him he's lying.

[C]

He's lying. You're lying.

[A]

You're lying.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

This would never. Not like this publicly.

[B]

Playback might see differently.

[A]

That's not true, right?

[C]

What?

[D]

His face still shows how the lyrics.

[C]

On this one ish.

[A]

No, that ain't tell you like this song, right? You don't think nothing bad about this song?

[C]

Not at all.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You're not selling it. Yeah.

[C]

What's up, y'? All? What's up?

[A]

This is Ghost Face straight from Staten Island. Yo, till next time, man. The baddies. Yada, yada, yada. Whatever. I don't care. Until next time. Shout out to the patronage.

[D]

Shout out to the subgroups out there.

[A]

Everybody listening, everybody listening.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Scientific my hand kiss it robotic listen optimistic. You probably missed it. Watch me Dolly, Dick and Scotty.

[C]

Why he copper tipped me Big microphone.

[D]

Hippie, hippie, kipsy crispy chicken bros chop the old sprinkle.

[B]

Wait, Trey said he never heard this.

[A]

I blame you.

[D]

You failed.

[A]

You failed. I went to court. Porn. I went to court. I was trying to see my man so we could. So we didn't have this moment right here. We'll talk later, man. Y' all hold it down till next time, man.

[C]

Jump in the Holly rock, boss.

[D]

I freak a lemon pie I'm about it bout it. Lord forgive me. Ms. Sally shouted.

[C]

Tracy got shot in the face.

[A]

My house was overcrowded.

[C]

You fake cats.

[A]

That's your 5% of East Orange. Irvington. Where else you from? Woodbridge. Where you from? Where the you from, Roselle? You've never heard of Joe Buddy?