Episode 868 | "Bad Juju"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 868 | "Bad Juju"

Date: October 11, 2025
Main Cast: Joe Budden, Mona, Ish, Mark Lamont Hill, Corey, Parks
Theme: The crew dives deep into recent music drama (especially the fallout from Drake’s lawsuit and industry relationships), new music reviews, culture talk, and spicy hip hop industry rumors. They blend candid conversations about race, business, sex work, family trauma, and the art of “taking the L.”

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

The crew reunites for a classic “random friends” episode, blending heavy discussion of the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar fallout and broader rap industry politics with wild sidebars about cars, sex work, new music, sports heartbreak, and cultural norms. They offer their signature irreverent takes—part hip hop historian, part barbershop philosopher, and part hilarious chaos.

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1. Opening Banter: Cars, Class, and Street Smarts

Timestamps: [00:30] – [05:00]

• The crew opens with a playful debate on tire insurance, “poor” knowledge, and “rapper poor” nostalgia. Joe jokes about his upbringing (“It’s okay to be poor. Well, no, that is smart, but it’s...poor, too...you was poor, bro.” – Joe, [00:59])
• Ish and Mark reminisce on pothole-induced car trauma and which whips real Jersey drug dealers and rappers actually drove in the ‘90s (E-Class vs. ES, Camry/Lexus debates).
• They riff on who gets to call whom “poor” and the cultural nuances in urban vs. suburban upbringings.

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2. Fashion, Partners, and Sports Heartbreak

Timestamps: [05:00] – [07:25]

• The crew bullies each other (lovingly) about fashion sense—shout-out to Parks’ “lady dressing.”
• Mark laments Philly’s epic sports letdown ("Yesterday was the worst day in Philly sports history." – Mark, [05:13]); Mona jokes about pretending to follow sports to blend in.
• Side convos on boxing interest, athlete backgrounds, and “white privilege” trope jokes.

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3. On “Whiteness,” Mixed Race Culture, and One Drop Rule

Timestamps: [08:48] – [11:15]

• Mona asks if having a white mom vs. white dad changes your culture: “Mix isn’t really a thing in this country. We do the one-drop rule…” ([09:47])
• The panel dives into colorism and labeling in Black and Latino communities—do you get to say “I’m mixed”? (“We judge people with white moms” – Joe, [09:25])
• Mona: “Red bone” vs. “white girl” teasing, and how social media shifted language.

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4. Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar Lawsuit Deep Dive

Timestamps: [19:00] – [45:00]

4.1. The Lawsuit Recap

• The crew unpacks the court’s decision in Drake’s case over Kendrick’s “Not Like Us,” ruled as “non-actionable,” i.e. rap beef hyperbole isn’t legal fact.
• Notable quote: “The judge called it the ‘metaphorical killing blow’...even the judge was getting in his YouTuber bag.” – Mark, [23:07]
• They break down why the lawsuit failed—"no reasonable listener would think Kendrick meant Drake’s a pedophile.”

4.2. Industry Impact: Is Drake Being Punished?

• Heated debate: Will Universal support Drake’s next moves, or quietly sabotage him as “punishment” for challenging the machine? (“He’s not a priority...that’s the culmination of a years-long feud.” – Joe, [34:01])
• Corey and Ish spar over whether labels “gas” records for artists, or leave them to flop. Joe points out how Drake’s singles have faded without label push.

4.3. What Should Drake Do Next?

• The crew delivers tough love: Drop the lawsuit, “take the L,” and focus on making music. (“How you bounce back after a L says a lot.” – Ish, [45:09])
• The “Canadian reading the American room” analogy: “You lost the fight at school and switched schools.” – Mona, [42:55]

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5. New Music Roundup

Timestamps: [52:07] – [61:00]

• Mobb Deep Album: Ecstatic review of a fresh posthumous Mobb Deep project: “How could you not want to hear Havoc beats and Prodigy verses?” – Joe, [58:01]; Nas features praised.
• Hit Boy, Alchemist, and classic mob sound celebrated.
• Discussions on Amber Mark, Bia, Black Thought—mini-debate on what constitutes a “one-hit wonder,” and how internet standards have warped legacy (“Some of the best artists in the world you can’t name five songs from.” – Joe, [62:00])

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6. Sex Work, Madams, and Hip Hop Rumors

Timestamps: [89:37] – [110:40]

• “Saweetie’s madam” exposé: They break down industry whispers of celebrity “girlfriend for hire” pipelines, share lore about sex work, and debate madam loyalty (“If you got all that stuff out the...then you owe me a kickback.” – Ish, [103:03])
• Consensus: Pay the madam, respect the “game,” and don’t get righteous—everyone knows what’s up! “They love whores. They love 'em.” – Mona, [106:46]
• Mona pushes: “Name another female rapper that’s selling?” The guys clown but avoid naming names (“We’re gentlemen. This is a gentleman’s podcast.” – Corey, [112:43])

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7. Law & Order, Street Loyalty, and Prison Letters

Timestamps: [116:07] – [173:01]

• Mark brings up the case of “Stud Face,” New Orleans fugitive; panel debates rooting for jailbreakers (“I be rooting for murderers...unless they do some real heinous shit.” – Mark, [117:05]).
• They highlight how police don’t often pay promised reward money to informants, and explore the snitching code.
• Mark and Mona discuss writing letters to prisoners, activism, and pushing for sentencing reform (from John Forte’s case to broader justice). Joe clowns Mark’s broad activism—“Who else are you writing letters to?” ([171:47]); Mark: “A freedom fighter’s job is never done.”

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8. Devil Worship, Witchcraft, and Doja Cat

Timestamps: [178:13] – [183:16]

• Angie Martinez’s recent viral interview with Doja Cat— Angie asks directly about “devil worship rumors”; the panel laughs at Doja’s evasive “word salad.”
• “She didn’t say one thing.” – Ish, [180:57]
• They explore how mystique, trolling, and poor explanations fuel internet conspiracies; Mona notes sex work and “witchcraft” accusations are also common for women coerced by madams.

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9. "Fix This Business” – Krispy Kreme’s Collapse

Timestamps: [187:58] – [194:39]

• Krispy Kreme’s valuation crash (from $3.2B to $674M in four years); the group diagnoses the fail:
  • “Stop giving out donuts to everyone that walks in!” – Mona, [188:40]
  • They propose influencer collabs, expanding the food menu, and selling coffee (“Starbucks started off with coffee. Now you can get a chicken sandwich…” – Ish, [192:44])

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10. Cash Money vs. No Limit: The Ultimate Southern Verzuz Showdown

Timestamps: [149:44] – [160:10]

• Hype over the announced “Cash Money vs. No Limit: Winner Takes All” battle in Vegas.
• Debate: “Down 4 My N****z” vs “Back That Ass Up”—which classic wins? Consensus: women choose Juvie’s track every time.
• Rapid-fire rounds on Mystikal, Snoop, Romeo, and who should really rep No Limit.

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11. Family Trauma, Secrets, and Therapy

Timestamps: [206:34] – [211:33]

• Listener write-in (“Mr. Nobody”) reveals classic “grandma raised me, birth mom was my ‘sister’” trauma. Crew empathizes deeply.
• “A lie is a lie is a lie… Never let it go.” – Mona, [209:39]
• Advice: Seek real therapy; don’t hold guilt for grown-ups’ decisions.

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12. Potpourri: Pop Culture Lightning Round

Timestamps: [196:04] – end

• Mona praises (but is unsettled by) Kris Jenner’s shockingly young facelift.
• Panel discusses watching “Ed Gein: American Psycho” (the consensus—too weird; “Once you start wearing people’s skin, I’m cool.” – Corey, [202:44]); Darlene from Roseanne cited as casting highlight.
• Shoutout to Vince Staples’ show’s return, fresh music from Ran & Preem, and thoughts on how relationships, podcasts, and oversharing mix (“My girl listens to every millisecond of this podcast.” – Joe, [198:00])
• Advance birthday party plans, boxing events, and rest of the crew’s weekend.

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NOTABLE QUOTES AND MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• “Y’all ever stab some money?” – Joe, [07:20]
• “You lost the fight at school and switched schools.” – Mona, [42:55]
• “Learning how to take a L is important.” – Joe, [40:31]
• “Pay the madam. Pay the plug. Pay what you owe.” – Multiple speakers, [107:04]
• “Somebody come get their son. I’m in Zen town today!” – Ish, [04:51]
• “Rap beef is not actionable!” – Mark Lamont Hill, [21:51]

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FINAL TAKEAWAYS

This episode is a masterclass in hip hop-anchored group therapy, with the crew fearlessly blending deep culture critique, personal trauma, behind-the-scenes industry breakdowns, and relentless banter. The tone pivots swiftly from hilarious to heartfelt and back, providing a rich window into what makes this podcast beloved—no sacred cows, everything is up for debate, and everyone gets roasted.

If you want wild industry scoop, real talk on music and culture, and a uniquely Black “friend group therapy” experience, this is a must-listen.

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For segment navigation, the most critical topics begin around [19:00] with Drake/legal fallout and run heavy through the middle hour. Sex work, industry malfeasance, and new music land in the [52:00]–[110:00] zone, with the episode’s signature swirl of sidebars, insight, and jokes throughout.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. If y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

If y' all caught a flat tire in the city, y' all would call the city and ask them to pay for it.

[Corey]

I have tire insurance, so.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, I didn't know you could do that.

[Ish]

No, I wouldn't do it, but if. If the city had some. I already knew where you was going with this, but I was driving up River Road back in the day, and.

[Joe Button]

You think I'm trying to call you poor?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So it traveled, driving.

[Joe Button]

You know, it's poor to know that.

[Ish]

No, it ain't.

[Joe Button]

It's okay to be poor. Well, no, that is smart, but it's.

[Ish]

Poor, too, as a. All right, cool. You was poor, bro.

[Joe Button]

I know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Why.

[Joe Button]

Think I'd be shooting. I'm just.

[Ish]

Did you know that when you was poor.

[Joe Button]

No, you weren't that poor.

[Mona]

You've been poor.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, I was very poor. I was poorer than them as a.

[Mona]

Kid or as an adult.

[Joe Button]

Let me stop. My mom will call up here.

[Mona]

I'm about to say, come on.

[Joe Button]

No, that's not true. I wasn't that poor.

[Mona]

Yeah, your mom don't.

[Joe Button]

I wasn't really never bore. It's like rapper poor. Like, pretend poor.

[Mona]

Like, I can't get a wise.

[Joe Button]

My mom had a job and was scamming the government.

[Ish]

Yeah, your mom talking about when you was grown, though.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I never was.

[Mona]

Your mom doesn't give poor.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we had steakums. Yeah, they talk about. Yeah, we had sardines in the 80s. That wasn't. You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Steakums was something.

[Ish]

Stacums or something.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we had steak Em.

[Ish]

Shit's high now.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah, but I know to your point, it was a pothole up on River Road. And when I used to have my E class, the alloys, them shits would crack if you just sneezed on them.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what happened to me and my.

[Ish]

Broke and I went. When I got out the car, I looked.

[Joe Button]

You had an E class.

[Mona]

It was a pothole.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hey, A Es.

[Joe Button]

Ew.

[Ish]

You had a Lexus Es.

[Joe Button]

Hey, yuck. Hey, talk about it.

[Ish]

You talking about that's a Camry plus.

[Joe Button]

You talking about. Talk about it. My Lexus. The S was fly. No, it Wasn't. Yes, it was.

[Ish]

No, it wasn't.

[Joe Button]

That was a good car when it first came out. You had an E class Back when it was an E class.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Before they redid it, too.

[Joe Button]

Ew.

[Ish]

I had a E class.

[Joe Button]

You had a Es, Joe. Why you. We talking about your E class?

[Ish]

I know, and I'm pointing out the.

[Joe Button]

Fact that if I. I'm saying ill.

[Ish]

What's the best E class now?

[Joe Button]

Them shits is fire.

[Ish]

What's the difference?

[Joe Button]

No, they redid them. Stop.

[Ish]

We.

[Joe Button]

Oh, we owe E class.

[Ish]

Been an E class. I mean, Es ain't never been. It never.

[Joe Button]

I disagree. I disagree with that.

[Ish]

When they first came out, them shits was the Camry, plus had Lexus. Nobody had a. Corey, tell them. Ain't nobody have no Es.

[Joe Button]

You talk about you and your little drug dealer friends.

[Ish]

I'm letting you know that that's what sets this.

[Joe Button]

The drug dealers in Jersey City didn't have E classes.

[Ish]

I know they had.

[Joe Button]

That's all. Like, if that was the. That was what was drug dealer. Don't put that on me. Don't do that on me.

[Ish]

Listen to this. I'm older than you. When them buggy IE classes came out, every rapper in the world had one. Is you talking about. That was the 90s. E class.

[Joe Button]

What rapper had one?

[Ish]

Jay Puff. All your idols.

[Joe Button]

Jay didn't have one. Jay didn't have one.

[Corey]

Text him right now.

[Ish]

First elect. This is in the budget binge.

[Joe Button]

I don't even care. I'm just listening to him. I don't care who talk about none of this. He talking about Mona. What up, Mo?

[Mona]

Hello, everyone.

[Joe Button]

Hello.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hello.

[Mona]

Happy Friday, fellas.

[Joe Button]

Don't date us. But, yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

But, yeah. We up in this piece. Happy Saturday. We missed you. Yeah, I mean, Mark up in this piece. What up, Mark?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Chilling, man. Life is good.

[Joe Button]

Good, good, good. Freeze.

[Ish]

Yo, yo, what's good, Good Freeze.

[Corey]

I mean, a little burgundy on him.

[Ish]

With the matching. Matching Scully. With the matching Scully. Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Thank you, Mona.

[Mona]

You be dressing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You look fine. You look fine.

[Ish]

Thank you, Mark. Thank you, Mona.

[Joe Button]

You do be dressing.

[Ish]

Be dressing now, why you skip over us? Parks is in the building. Elmira's greatest.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's true.

[Joe Button]

He'll dress herself.

[Mona]

Oh, is lady dressing. Same thing.

[Ish]

It's okay.

[Mona]

She does a great job. It's the same thing.

[Corey]

Their partners shout out to Mr.

[Ish]

Beast. Their partner shout out to my baby. Y' all ain't doing this smoke. Baby, I love you.

[Mona]

You can't give to the people that put a little effort in their outfits when most people go cash that ain't.

[Joe Button]

Know about no burgundy before. Missing peace.

[Corey]

The Reds are getting more sophisticated.

[Joe Button]

That nigga.

[Mona]

That's what a woman spoke to.

[Joe Button]

That nigga took this job. He's wearing the oodles and noodles. H this. Look at him now. Let's go, let's go, let's go, Mr.

[Mona]

P. That's how it's supposed to be.

[Ish]

I'm not paying these niggas no more. I'm in a good mood. I'm on. I'm in Zen town today.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

How you in a good mood, man? You see what happened to Philly yesterday?

[Ish]

I ain't a sex. I'm not a Eagles fan. I'm a Steelers fan. I was happy to see that. And I had the quarterback, the running back on my fantasy team.

[Joe Button]

Huh.

[Ish]

So I'm ecstatic.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Corey]

I did, too.

[Joe Button]

I had the wrong one, though.

[Ish]

Oh, sorry.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm alone up here.

[Ish]

Yeah, you on your own, buddy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yesterday was the worst day in Philly sports history.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Corey]

I wouldn't go that far.

[Ish]

I mean, it happened in one day.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Tomorrow might be as well. Yesterday was, too, but today is the worst day.

[Corey]

It was pretty bad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I was heartbroken watching. We could talk about what happened later, but just.

[Joe Button]

It was awful.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Phillies loss, Eagles lost, Sixers loss, Flyers loss. I mean, not the Sixers. Everybody else, but the Sixers. Loss is ugly.

[Mona]

They lose.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Sixers ain't even keeping up with the Sixers. They lost two.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I mean, y' all lost the day before. Yankees lost the day before. So I. I. That made me.

[Joe Button]

Not like y' all lost. Not like y' all lost. Please don't compare.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Throw the ball to first.

[Joe Button]

Not like y' all lost.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If you play Little League, you throw the ball to first.

[Joe Button]

That's it. That was ridiculous how y' all lost.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That was worse than Bill Buckner. Like, that was, like, the worst error I've ever seen. I feel bad for that young man. When I was younger, I would have went on his lawn and tried to burn something, like we did Mitch Williams.

[Mona]

Oh, I gotta start calling in the morning. And then let them give me the summary of sports so I can sit here, act like I know what the fuck y' all talking about, because it's easy to, like, blend in. Like, yeah, Sanchez ran the ball. You know what I mean? I just got to get somebody.

[Joe Button]

I don't know who the fuck Sanchez is. Stabbed the motherfuck up.

[Mona]

I made it up and then went home.

[Joe Button]

Talk about white privilege.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He ain't even Going.

[Mona]

I do like boxing.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Ish]

I mean, I put Mark Sanchez with the white.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I do, too.

[Joe Button]

He not white.

[Ish]

So do they.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What is he?

[Joe Button]

Antoine? I'm asking his name. Sanchez. His name is Sanchez.

[Corey]

He could be Spanish, white.

[Joe Button]

I know y' all always say that. Sanchez, you got it. Once somebody say that, I'll be like, oh, I'm talking to one of those. All right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, she got it.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

He could be white. Yeah, true. Well, he over there with them. I'll tell you that one for sure. Tell you that much.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He stabbed somebody, went home. Right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He's white.

[Joe Button]

He's white. Yeah. That is some white.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Y' all ever stab some money?

[Corey]

No.

[Ish]

No.

[Corey]

Like, keep it that way?

[Ish]

Hopefully, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Lived in a cold.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

A lot of things went down. Stabbing somebody's very personal.

[Corey]

What are you talking about?

[Joe Button]

No, I ain't gonna say. The answer should be no.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Depends.

[Joe Button]

Tried to jump me a lot when I was a teenager.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I closed my eyes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Start poking.

[Mona]

You had a knife.

[Joe Button]

You goddamn right. You goddamn right I did.

[Mona]

But you carrying a knife, or did you come okay?

[Joe Button]

No, I was carrying a knife.

[Mona]

I've always carried knives.

[Joe Button]

Two years of my life I spent learning how to spit a blade out my mouth.

[Mona]

It took you two years?

[Joe Button]

I was cutting the. Out of myself.

[Mona]

Oh, my God, Joe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's just funny.

[Joe Button]

Mark Sanchez is a former American Mexican. Professional. Professional basketball player.

[Corey]

Get a former American Mexican.

[Joe Button]

And they found out about. They found out about Sean Paul, too.

[Ish]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Joe Button]

I told y'. All. I told y'. All. Sean DePaul.

[Ish]

Sean DePaul. What'd he do?

[Corey]

What they find out about.

[Mona]

He grew up rich.

[Joe Button]

No, they a little bit more. They saying that you be. What is he, Jewish, Irish, Asian, Asian, Jamaican or some. But he was born in Jamaica.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, a lot of Chinese, Jamaicans.

[Ish]

It's mad Asian Jamaicans all out.

[Joe Button]

It's mad white people to speak Spanish.

[Mona]

Do y' all think it make a difference if your mom is white versus your father? On how you are culturally?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Button]

I think yes.

[Ish]

And on who you lived with and.

[Joe Button]

How you grew up.

[Ish]

How you grew up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I assume they raised by their money.

[Mona]

Raised by your mom, but it's kind of the same thing. Kind of. Because usually people grow up with their moms, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mona]

More than. More than average.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

What happened? Some therapeutic went on that I missed. Y' all got sad thinking about your upbringing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm still thinking about the Phillies, man. I'm good. You got some upbeat for Us, man.

[Joe Button]

Y' all know we judge people with white moms. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's literally what they say. Oh, hey, the white mom. To explain some.

[Mona]

I'm more judged by, like, if you're black and you have a white parent, and if somebody asks your race, if you say, I'm mixed, that's how I more judge you. Like, if you don't come off straight when I'm black, then I think, like, okay, you wanted them.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I feel that.

[Joe Button]

So you can't say I'm mixed.

[Mona]

Mix isn't really a thing in this country.

[Joe Button]

For real.

[Mona]

We do the one drop rule, so the minority take the majority. So if one of your parents is white, right? I'm talking about if you have a white parent. So if one of your parents is white and your father Mexican, you Mexican. If one of your parents is white and the other parent is black, then you black. Ain't that how it go?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but.

[Mona]

Or is that.

[Ish]

No, no, that. That's how it goes. What you look like? I think you look more white. They don't want to hear that. Black, what do you look like to the police? Ain't just police, because they're just judging out here based off what you look like. I mean, why you tell them don't call you white girl?

[Mona]

Because they call me white girl.

[Ish]

Why do they call you white girl?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm white skin, but she ain't got no white parents.

[Mona]

Yeah, I don't.

[Joe Button]

Your nose black as hell, girl.

[Mona]

I don't think I look white when people call you. I think that's just a hood thing. When you light skin, they call you red bone. They don't stop. They call you white up here. I don't think I look like. People didn't start saying, are you white? Into the Internet. Like, I never heard that in the street. Nobody, if anything, well, they know what.

[Ish]

Happened if they said that to you.

[Mona]

In the street, they would get a hug and talking to.

[Ish]

We all on our Zen. Got it? Yeah, sweetheart.

[Joe Button]

What an absolute sweetheart.

[Mona]

Nah.

[Joe Button]

And if y' all all going to be on Zen, good thing I spent the entire week figuring out ways to get you guys out of Zen. So fine. Oh, my computer closed. Okay.

[Ish]

Jo, just sit home and try to think of ways to trigger us.

[Joe Button]

Ain't nothing else to do at 45. Yo, I ain't gonna hold you.

[Ish]

This is a hobby.

[Joe Button]

There's nothing else to do. They changed the Icy Hot.

[Ish]

I saw you trying anything, son.

[Mona]

I saw your little back.

[Joe Button]

I bought my little back brace off of Amazon.

[Mona]

I seen it.

[Joe Button]

That Ain't bad. It's not bad. What else I'm doing in the crib? I'm just in the crib just trying. I'm just in the crib trying. That's it.

[Ish]

Hobby man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Is it getting better? Is your back getting better?

[Joe Button]

Yes, it is getting better. I feel it healing up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay, good.

[Joe Button]

Feel it healing up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When it get better, don't, don't like, be like. Like do physical therapy. Like, do things to get it stronger, like, like lose some weight. Some things like that. Go to. Go to the physical therapy because if you don't, it's going to get injured again. People get scared and don't do nothing. And they get. And they actually do the work.

[Corey]

That's Dr. Dr. Mark on my hill right there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that's old ass man who hurt his back 17 times this year.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Mark got all types of helmets. All right, who's ready to rock and roll?

[Ish]

Let's get it.

[Joe Button]

Who's ready to rock and roll? Who's ready to rock and roll? They need our opinions.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Shout out to the person.

[Joe Button]

Last time, listen.

[Ish]

Squeeze.

[Joe Button]

What up, Quiz? What up, Quiz? What up?

[Ish]

Just thinking it's over when I'm sober.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Imagine when I'm saying the greatest you all time don't get enough respect.

[Joe Button]

This is history, baby. Yeah. Man wants a queen Shit right now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Godson. What up, D Block? What up, grave hawks?

[Joe Button]

What up?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, yo, yo, ain't nothing but trouble, dog When I kick in the door with brave hearts and a double law don't make me let the machine off this methadone music that you can lean.

[Joe Button]

Off Made you love the remix with.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Me up on it now I break.

[Joe Button]

Weed up on it.

[Mona]

I help the.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Game, it ain't help me Top five Dead or Alive and that's yourself One LP I still was they know the flow's ill just like Will was I'm just trying to make sure that my son's wealthy out of But I make.

[Mona]

Sure that my gun's healthy I'm an.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ape can't stand kiss coming through the hood in the Aston Vanquish the color of dandruff they said we jumped them I just let the gun snuff them copy the turbo so that they uncuff them this goes after all of your mans why put you in a verse when I can put you in the core in a man?

[Ish]

D block.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They shooting, they shooting.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Booty ain't work, you gotta bump that you done hit a nigga with it and you running the police is coming take My advice, nigga, dump that.

[Joe Button]

They so serious, these rap niggas I'm just having fun.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Why you carry a gun? You ain't a cop. I look at it and since the time you got a shooting town show the class my Glock show him the clutch show him the game show him my daddy lane in the convertible bag 22 inch bag.

[Joe Button]

All right, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. We got a great show lined up for you today.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right, let's get to it.

[Joe Button]

Let's get to it. Mona is too early for fidgeties. It is too early. You been here for 10 minutes, bro.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I did it.

[Mona]

I did it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Coca Cola came and bought it for Beans.

[Joe Button]

What the.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Have a baby by me, baby, be.

[Ish]

A millionaire I write the check before the day becomes who the.

[Joe Button]

Hey, turn off, God damn it. The Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Let's go.

[Joe Button]

Feeling good up in this piece. I mean, these drops out the way real quick. What episode is this?

[Corey]

A68.

[Joe Button]

All right, man. Welcome to episode. Oh, and Big Moan is in the building. Big Mo, Big building. We working on it.

[Mona]

I like.

[Joe Button]

We working. We working on it.

[Mona]

What the.

[Joe Button]

We working on it.

[Mona]

Do you let other people do that? Because I would like to do that.

[Joe Button]

Do what? Oh, no, like, pick songs.

[Mona]

So you the only one that can do that. You the only one that can do that. I like music.

[Joe Button]

Wait, what you want to do? Hit play?

[Ish]

Drop again?

[Mona]

You heard me the first time. I have my own little things on there. And load up. And I do my own intro.

[Joe Button]

No, no, you can't. But it's a great idea. 868. Welcome to episode 868 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered By Prize Picks. Prize Fix gang here. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here wholesale with some really amazing. What?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She got it.

[Joe Button]

She got it.

[Ish]

Yeah, she got it.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Big Mona.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

To my right. Y' all know the vibes. Philly's finest. Big Mona is here. Don't call her. White girl is here. We are blessed to have her. How you feeling, Mona?

[Mona]

I'm feeling great, guys. Hi, everybody.

[Joe Button]

Good. We absolutely love that. Next to her some more, Philly. Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is in the building. How you doing, Mark?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm great.

[Joe Button]

Good. Glad to hear that. Let's take it back to Jersey on these niggas. Next to him. Next to him. King Wah Wah in the building.

[Ish]

Mr.

[Joe Button]

Thousand Doors. And up. Ish is here. It's. How you feeling, my brother?

[Ish]

I'm good, though.

[Joe Button]

Good. Glad to hear that. Glad to hear that. Next to him. Come on, man. Surrounded by the. By the members. Surrounded by the members. Hey, where you go? Whether it be gang or the Muslims, it's gonna be some members around. Freeze. Mister. Take it further. Big Ice, how you doing, my brother? I'm great. I'm great. Glad to be here.

[Ish]

Let's get good.

[Joe Button]

Glad to hear that. Come on, man. Come on. Coolest white boy in the game. Fix that verses up for you. When RZA was having some trouble, Big Parks is in the building.

[Ish]

What's poppin?

[Joe Button]

What's poppin? Poe is here. Corey is here. Mona's ever revolving drive drove down here is here. Eric's is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's up?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's poppin?

[Ish]

Yo, yo, what's poppin?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Everybody waiting to hear from you.

[Joe Button]

Really? Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We went on your Instagram stories. You was going crazy.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm going crazy. Stop, stop, stop.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It don't take much.

[Joe Button]

Stop.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When it comes to this topic. Don't take much.

[Ish]

You had him going crazy.

[Joe Button]

That's true.

[Ish]

You had the streets in a frenzy.

[Joe Button]

No, I didn't.

[Mona]

You did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You tell him what he does, right?

[Ish]

We saw the street.

[Joe Button]

Stop it. That wasn't the streets.

[Ish]

The streets was going crazy.

[Joe Button]

That was me at home watching Dateline, just bored, doing shit. Look for pictures. Oh, no, no looking.

[Corey]

Oh, you had it.

[Ish]

You had it right there.

[Joe Button]

That's the thing. I just be scrolling and you see some shit, you be like, oh, boy, that's a good pic to post. But I wasn't trying to be. I wasn't really trying to be messy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, you posted a picture of Drake looking crazy.

[Joe Button]

No, not true. My story don't start there. I posted a pic of Sweetie's madam looking at her like, pay me, bitch.

[Mona]

Allegedly, madam.

[Joe Button]

Allegedly. That was the real tea for me.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Everybody skated past that.

[Joe Button]

I did not. If no other news happened, I was gonna be just fine coming in here to get into madam underworld escort, sex worker business and not care nothing about what the audience had to say. Boy, was I on cloud nine with that one. So I posted that knowing that ain't nobody was gonna know what the fuck I was talking about or laughing at. And it just so happens, a few hours later, the Drake news broke about the lawsuit.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes. And it looked like you were spiking.

[Joe Button]

The football no, because I mean, to me, it's not that important. I was never. I was never one that believed that was gonna go a different way. So, I mean, to me, yeah, you post a picture, ha ha ha, you lost, and then you move on. But people were messaging me like, oh, tomorrow. This is fucking life changing. Now that we got the verdict, I know you're gonna go crazy again.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And I'm like, they expected two hours on this. They expected two hours on this.

[Joe Button]

Okay, do y' all have something important to say about that?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't got much. For the audience and for people who didn't actually follow the news, Drake's lawsuit against. Against you and your people, that.

[Joe Button]

For the. Hey, hold up. For the people that missed it, yesterday evening, somewhere around 6 to 7 o', clock, it was finally confirmed. The news broke that Drake's a bitch. Nobody had to come in here and fucking word me tonight.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That was easy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, that's the point.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the point.

[Joe Button]

Oh, he went to court. He lost. The same shit that I told y' all 11 months ago rang true yesterday. At around 6 o', clock, courts were.

[Corey]

On the side of hip hop.

[Joe Button]

Some tweet, some tweet was going around that said Drake lost the nigger way and the white way. That was a good one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's a great.

[Joe Button]

And people just started having fun with this. Now back to the facts. Mark, take it away.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I mean, you basically nailed it. I mean, judge basically said the same thing. I mean, in more complicated language.

[Corey]

Get the out of here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that's basically what the judge said.

[Ish]

He said that this.

[Joe Button]

Basically he was saying this is non actionable offense.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes. Non actionable meaning you can't take legal action on this because it wasn't defamation. The judge ruled. He said that this was an opinion. He said there was no way that someone reasonably would hear that song and think that Kendrick Lamar was stating facts about Drake being a pedophile. That was his opinion. And therefore you couldn't sue and he threw the case out. So the case is over and there's a big loss for Drake.

[Ish]

And also told him that you being called a pedophile was a callback to your song. Right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Which is what we was up here saying. Like, dog, you can't say, hey, call me this and then when a call you that, get mad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Do you want to read any of. Yeah, any of this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Do you want. You want us to.

[Joe Button]

Should we. Should we try to give it a read? Yeah, give it a.

[Ish]

Let's get the professional informational side. Out first before we get ignorant.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Headline already. It was queued up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Well, which part is important?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think much of it is, to be honest, but I think that the judge's biggest point, which I'm pulling up now, is about the context of it. Right. He said, first of all, and I thought this was great. The judge called it the, quote, metaphorical killing blow. He referred to not like us as the metaphorical killing blow in the beef. So even the judge, he was getting his YouTuber back.

[Ish]

The judge was up Crip walking.

[Joe Button]

When he dropped, the judge monetized. All right, this Judge Vargas.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Definitely new Judge Vargas.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Then Judge Vargas said, although the accusation that plaintiff is a pedophile is certainly a serious one, the broader context of a heated rap battle with incendiary language and offensive accusations hurled by both participants would not incline the reasonable listener to believe that not like us imparts verifiable facts about the plaintiff. In other words, the judge said, this is a rap beef.

[Joe Button]

Beef.

[Corey]

Get the out of my court.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Exactly.

[Ish]

Whatever y' all want.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mona]

Them lawyers knew that. They seen him coming. That was free money.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's the up part. Like, ran it up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's more. Because the Drake. The. The judge said. I mean, the Drake's attorney said, we look forward to the appeal process.

[Ish]

I bet they do.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

More money, billable hours.

[Mona]

Like to keep going and pill it.

[Ish]

Sometimes when you that stubborn, it's not.

[Joe Button]

About even that dumb. It's about being that wealthy. There's no sweat off your back. It's your legal team. You going on about your business. Yeah. Appeal that. I'm unhappy with the decision.

[Ish]

I would appeal it too.

[Joe Button]

Appeal that.

[Mona]

He's making it long.

[Joe Button]

We all. We all would appeal it.

[Ish]

Well, I think he.

[Joe Button]

We all wouldn't be it.

[Ish]

I think he got a bigger thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think his.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what that means.

[Ish]

Is versus Universal.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's Drake's big thing?

[Ish]

Not Kendrick.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ish]

Cause we had that conversation before. Like, it's about Universal versus Drake more than Kendrick versus Drake. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying. And I think that was just his ploy to get from up under they thumb. That's what I think. But you're still there. Even in Universal's statement about this verdict. They're like, and we look forward to continue working with Drake. And this is. Yeah, I bet you do. Damn right we do. I think that was.

[Joe Button]

You ain't going nowhere.

[Ish]

I think that was his fight. Now. The other side, I do think.

[Joe Button]

Slow down. Cause you can't bring up that comment. And then we not break down the comment. Oh, okay. That was. That was quite the. Depending on how you read that. Let's see. From the outset, this suit was an affront to all artists and their creative expression and never should have seen the light of day. We're pleased with the course dismissal and look forward to continuing our work, successfully promoting Drake's music and investing in his career.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Do y' all believe that they're gonna continue to do that?

[Corey]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think they're gonna continue to want to.

[Corey]

I mean, certainly with the. That they already own whether his.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Going forward, it goes somewhere else. They're gonna continue to pump his old material.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Corey]

Like any other cash cow.

[Ish]

I don't think they necessarily couldn't.

[Joe Button]

I couldn't disagree more.

[Ish]

Yeah. I don't think they would put any money into him proceeding. I think they want to crush him.

[Joe Button]

You're done. You're done.

[Corey]

I think y' all wrong. Yeah, well, I own those assets. I'm going to monetize them to the maximum.

[Ish]

So you.

[Joe Button]

You caking already? Yeah, you cake. If you do nothing for the rest of your life, you're caking off of the Drake catalog. When his prime was his prime.

[Ish]

No, he's the most streamed artist today.

[Corey]

Yeah, but there's more work that goes into the music than just leaving it out there and letting people stream it. Like they want to get it placed in commercials and films and licensed and oh, repackages and reissues and remasters and all the. That they do with catalog music.

[Ish]

I agree with that. I'm talking about him going forward.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

Well, like if Drake comes out with a project in six months, if I'm, if, if Universal could be like, suck my dick.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know. Why would they do that though? Why would it be to their business?

[Ish]

I think it's a personal thing where I think.

[Joe Button]

And we.

[Ish]

And we kind of.

[Mona]

His revenge.

[Ish]

Nah, it sound like y' all feeling away in business.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think Drake is.

[Ish]

If you think these multi mega billion dollar corporations don't look at you like, yo, how dare you and let feelings get in the, in the, in the, in the middle of business, then you ain't been following some of the puff like, yo, dog, a lot of this be based on these people putting you in your place saying, yo, I don't want nobody else to come follow suit and think that they could do that too.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I think he lost. They don't have to do. I think if he wins, they might punish him. I think if they. If he lost, it's like, I. I.

[Ish]

Think they gonna punish.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, no. You know that. That's why the punishment.

[Ish]

How dare you.

[Joe Button]

The punishment is coming.

[Ish]

How dare you?

[Joe Button]

We have not seen the punishment. I agree with everything that Ish said. Like, great, Y' all are coming from the Drake is drake angle, but UMG is coming from the. We own 65, 70% of the market share. We own this shit. You can't just. Listen, back in my day, you couldn't just do shit to the label without fearing the repercussion from the label.

[Ish]

So when you think that he could.

[Joe Button]

Do all of that to Universal.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And Universal just say, oh, well, we won. Glad to still have.

[Ish]

Back to business as usual.

[Corey]

If I can make another billion dollars off you, I'm make the other billion.

[Ish]

They got enough billions.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm gonna make the billion anyway.

[Corey]

That goes against corporate behavior that you're talking about. If I. No one's like, oh, I got enough money in the corporate world. Especially when there's stockholders at Play True.

[Joe Button]

I'm getting the money regardless.

[Ish]

I'm making the money regardless off of this.

[Joe Button]

I'm making the money off of it.

[Corey]

That's not true.

[Joe Button]

So help me hold up how not so?

[Corey]

Because you have. You know this in music, you can't just put shit out on the Internet. Yes, it will do well because it's Drake. But if you put more money into it and do all the games that they do that we've been accusing them of doing, that we know they do. They're gonna do that with any new Drake music that they deem is commercially viable.

[Ish]

Let me ask you a question.

[Joe Button]

Shoot.

[Ish]

So why didn't they do that for the last year? What you mean Drake has put out some songs that old Drake would have moved and they would have shot up the charts. Why didn't they do that the last year if it's still.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hold up.

[Ish]

Let me finish my question. Because it's still gonna be profit them. It still would be in their best interest financially to push some of them songs that he put out. If he put some of them songs out four years ago, them shits would have went.

[Corey]

That's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't.

[Corey]

I disagree. And we did see them do that with Nokia, although that was a. A partnership or whatever it was with Warner, I guess because it was a party.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

They might still.

[Ish]

It might not have been them.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

They gonna teach him. I don't know.

[Mona]

I still want to know what the reason. That's what I want to know. Like, why. Why are we doing it? Even besides it being for revenge or whatever? Is it. What is she. It was like, you want to show everybody else. Don't with us. Like, what is the reason? Besides we are billionaires and don't feel. Don't disrespect us or whatever.

[Ish]

Yo, we're bigger than billionaires. I think it's just levels to life. And when you start trying to climb up certain ladders, them niggas gonna kick the fucking thread, yo. Get your dumb ass back down to where you belong.

[Joe Button]

I disagree.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So what does that look like? If Jake puts out an album in six months, what do they do with it? Do they not promote it? Do they.

[Joe Button]

Do they.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Do they just not play extra algorithm games? What do they do when you let them flop? And assuming the album is good, if.

[Joe Button]

What y' all are saying is. Is true, then throughout this case, they would have supported him. We've heard nothing but mad, unreleased music that most people think is good from this Iceman shit. Even the Iceman shit kind of pops up and leaves. We have not seen any definitive evidence in the last year. I'm with Ish. That Universal is committed to spending on the future of Drake. The record labels see a window for you as an artist. So I don't know that they just supposed to continue to believe that he will be the what he's been. Nothing that they've done says that they believe he's going to continue.

[Ish]

I don't think.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But that seems to be a different thing.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We think your windows close, so we're going to. We're just not investing you because we think you're on a decline. Or is it. We're going to punish you when you put out new music. Or is it both?

[Joe Button]

Yo, it's both.

[Ish]

But y' all keep saying that they make. This is what all of y' all say that are the music aficionados that if you put out something that's, let's say, eight, a seven, when they put the machine behind your seven, it turns your seven into a ten.

[Corey]

Okay?

[Ish]

That's just what all of y' all say. And y' all all have agreed upon. So if Drake is still Drake, that don't make tens no more. Even if he making seven and a half music with the universal bump, it's gonna be a 10 and they gonna be making mad bread. That's what y' all have said for the last four years. I've been on the box, the Difference.

[Joe Button]

Between Nokia and God's plan. It's the difference between Nokia and hotline bling. You will see the difference in the label being with you. Lock and key and the label not being with you. We'll see. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not disagreeing. So not being with you, I can keep. Means less marketing, or is it algorithm game? What is the thing that they won't do?

[Joe Button]

It means less of all of it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

It means less of everything.

[Ish]

And the funny part that you're saying that to me, this is my opinion, is that that is what he was saying with regards to they not like us.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He's saying they put extra gas.

[Ish]

He's saying my. I was the. That I know how the gas works because they put the gas on for me for the last example.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right.

[Mona]

This was really good.

[Ish]

I know what the. The gas looks like. So I know when y' all put the gas light on for this song. Not that the song wasn't dope already organic. Listen to what I'm saying. He's right, though, bro. The song was already fly. Everybody already took to the song organically. Niggas liked the song the day it came out. Universal ain't even get a chance to light the stove, and the shit was already gone. But I know the signs of when y' all put the gas behind.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And that's why I didn't like the lawsuit.

[Ish]

No, but that's why the lawsuit makes sense to me. The lawsuit makes sense to me because I know what y' all do when y' all put the gas behind the shit. So y' all putting the gas behind some shit that's calling me a pedophile that could potentially make me lose mad billions of dollars if it did what it did organically. Right, but that's his lawsuit.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I just didn't agree with the argument. No, because we disagree.

[Ish]

Him in hip hop. I'm talking about from a business perspective. That boy is right. And I don't want to get up here and cape for him because they gonna say I'm caping for Drake. That is right. If I know what the gas looks like, and I know what it look like when y' all put money behind a product. Y' all putting money behind a product. I'm your artist, and y' all putting money behind a product. That is calling me a pedophile to the. To the world.

[Joe Button]

Maybe in simpler terms. Let me ask y'. All. Y' all think Drake's footprint in America feels like we're used to it feeling.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Music don't feel like music feeling that.

[Ish]

Could be the pow pow right there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

From the minute. Not like us us putting the gas on it. They. It seems like they were the labels and it was kind of tired of him before that before not like us.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I felt like he was.

[Ish]

Drake was giving them projects that Certified lover boy and all that. There wasn't fly projects that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That I thought he was on a decline.

[Corey]

Well that's. And that kind of goes to the point that my argument against what you were saying earlier is all Drake has released all these records that in previous times would have went it with a little bit of gas. I kind of disagree. I don't think that nothing he's put out in the past three years. Maybe I agree with that could hold a candle to hotline bling or Right. His prize any of these other records.

[Joe Button]

But we gas or not.

[Ish]

Again, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Well, there's a lot of things happening at once.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm thinking there's a lot of.

[Joe Button]

Things happening at once.

[Ish]

Certified lover boy cover. They said he was giving the label a. You with the COVID You said that he does memeable covers. Certified lover boy album was. Sounded like a whole bunch of that he had in the tuck somewhere and he just gave it to him on some asshole sarcastic, pompous bullshit.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But that's what I'm saying. Like even before the Kendrick shit he had this weird relationship to the label and he wasn't putting out his best work.

[Joe Button]

True. So we're saying you're not a priority no more. We're saying that this is the culmination of a years long feud between him, Lucien Universal and the people in that building.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That makes more sense to me. I think what I was.

[Ish]

And now to put the icing on the cake. But we said that.

[Joe Button]

We said that when the beef was.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Happening and I didn't disagree. What I was skeptical of is the idea that if you sue the law, if the label can make billions or billions off you after the. After a lawsuit that they'll just bail on you just because of the lawsuit. I think they will punish you sometimes especially if you win. But I'm saying because he lost and because he's already flailing, I'm just not sure how much more they're going to do.

[Ish]

I think he's being punished already.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He is. I think it's already happened.

[Joe Button]

There's no world.

[Ish]

There's no comedy coming.

[Joe Button]

There's no world. And there's no artist in the history of music that has been allowed to just totally piss off the record label and then go on the Flourish and go about their business.

[Ish]

For the label to make money, you got to make money, too. We don't want you to make no more money. I'm not talking about office. Prior catalog. His old, like you saying, license.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We all agree on the prior sinking.

[Ish]

All of that, they got it. That's a cash cow.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

For him to go forward and for Universal to be profitable with him, that means he has to also be profitable, too.

[Joe Button]

Yo, y' all don't think Universal knows that Drake Music is on a decline? Let me ask y' all that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I think.

[Ish]

I think they know because he's.

[Joe Button]

Because he's. Because he's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Because he's not in his prime anymore. I'm saying I think that's the biggest reason, not the lawsuit.

[Ish]

I don't know the terms of his contract, but I also think he's either out or maybe got one more to be out. Yes. So what we gonna do is tank kill your worth. We're gonna kill you. So now you could go out there.

[Corey]

No, I don't. I don't agree with that. I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

You don't.

[Ish]

If I know you leaving, I want you to leave on a high.

[Corey]

No, I'm not trying to kill your high. I still have all these assets of yours. I'm not trying to tank your value at no time now. I'm not gonna.

[Joe Button]

Old value.

[Ish]

I don't even drink outside of. Of him getting like a puff charge. I don't think Drake's old value can be tanked.

[Joe Button]

It is what it is.

[Ish]

He needs a charge where he got to be canceled.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Ish]

Outside of that. That is solidified going forward. If you are leaving us and you're Drake, I don't want you to leave us on a high.

[Corey]

I could certainly go do whatever you.

[Ish]

Do somewhere else and make the money that we was making off of you.

[Corey]

I could certainly see throwing your kid into the pool and seeing if they can swim. But I don't think they're going to try to tank his value because again, especially when we're talking about all this pedophilia lawsuit that they were trying to weaponize pedophilia against. Against him. I don't think that they would try to do that because that is the exact thing that you're saying. Unless some R. Kelly, whatever happens. Yeah, so why would they be. I'm not trying to make my biggest cash cow of the past 20, 30 years into R. Kelly.

[Joe Button]

Are you crazy?

[Ish]

No.

[Corey]

Why would I want to bottom out my asset like that.

[Joe Button]

This is the thing.

[Ish]

We're not trying to make you R. Kelly. We could put the doubt in the air that will tank your value.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't do it. It also hurts their revenue from the. Even from the old catalog.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I'm saying. And I don't think that they would try to actively. Oh, that's not true. I could see a world where they try to tank him. I don't think that's happening. I just also don't think they're actively trying to propel him.

[Corey]

Oh, I think that's fair.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I agree with that.

[Joe Button]

That's all I'm saying.

[Ish]

You say go out and do what you do on your own.

[Joe Button]

Throw him in the pool, swim. Thank you for your service.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's all I'm saying. Hey, thank you for your service. What a run. We did historic things together. No question.

[Ish]

Would you let him go?

[Joe Button]

I still got your shit. I'm keeping you for as long as I'm entitled to. Keep you. Yeah, I'm keeping you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So if you're. New question. If you're Drake, what's your next best move right now?

[Joe Button]

Slow down. I don't want to get to that yet. I want to talk to the audience members out there that fucking beat me down for a year and change about, well, what if this is going to get him his masters back and I had to play along. I had to. I had to play along with you buffoons out there that was telling me, hey, hey, he's gonna be a martyr for the independent artist.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not definitely trying to make a Martin Luther King on this shit.

[Joe Button]

I'm not letting y' all get away with that. Sorry, I can't. For what I had to endure the last year in James. Did you guys. In hindsight, did y' all hear yourselves dead ass. He's gonna be a martyr and change the rest of the way that music business is done in the music business. Y' all said that and was dead ass about it. Yeah, straight face.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I was there.

[Joe Button]

It was last year.

[Corey]

It wasn't even last year. It was a couple months ago.

[Joe Button]

My memory is not that bad. Like, how do y' all feel about yourselves now? Oh, my God. See why you can't be a part of think tank. This is how you saying he's gonna get his masters from this?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the naive if you think they're.

[Joe Button]

Giving up masters Jesus, Mary and Joseph. Anyways, what does this mean? What does this verdict mean for religious Drake?

[Corey]

I mean, obviously the.

[Joe Button]

What is it?

[Corey]

What it's the appeal is going to drag it out for a little while longer. I don't know how much longer. Probably another six months, I would imagine.

[Joe Button]

Does that. Does that push the album back?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

Does anything about this verdict push the album back or push back plans for the album?

[Corey]

Hard to say without knowing whether he's still under terms with umg. But I guess in their. In their statement, they said they want to say. Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily say that they have anything going forward. I don't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I mean, I think Drake's logic is, is if I win this case, I have leverage to maybe get away from the label deal.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And so I think that would have dictated the album time. Now that he's stuck in. If he's doing the appeal because he thinks he can win it, as opposed to just saving face, I think that might. I think that's gonna determine whether the album plans change. Cause I think a lot. I'm not convinced he thinks he can win this anymore the way the judge threw it out. I just. And what are you appealing it on?

[Mona]

That's why he shouldn't appeal.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Cause you're not. Unless you're appealing on procedural grounds, like there's something wrong with the procedure itself, it's gonna be very difficult to win this case. And every lawyer I've heard talk about this has said this is not a winnable case for Drake.

[Mona]

Appealing just because you have a legal team and you couldn't afford it, it still doesn't make it. It makes it longer. Like, you still. It's just more embarrassing. You still like a bitch. It's just. Wrap it up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It doesn't help him. So I don't.

[Ish]

Some niggas just can't take the L, man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's. Well, yeah, there's the L. I just.

[Ish]

Cannot take the L. I just assume if there's any other avenue, I'mma do it. I just cannot accept this L. That's.

[Corey]

What the lawsuit was in the beginning. It was a Hail Mary to make the L look less literally Ellie.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right. So now it's more Ellie.

[Mona]

Yeah, it's worse. Like, just let it go.

[Joe Button]

How you. Yeah. Learning how to take a L is important.

[Ish]

Very.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Facts.

[Joe Button]

Because everything that he does or and has done since this battle has ended has just helped to prolong the success and drag out, like you. Making the legend of not like us, just bigger than ever. Yeah.

[Ish]

I seen people streaming it last night, running it back. I was like, I won't Be surprised. This shit into the chart again.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Jesus.

[Ish]

And that's another L word.

[Joe Button]

And you know what else, man? You fucking Canadians sometimes just can't read an American room. And that's what Americans have been saying for a little while now, Right? Like, the crux of this case has been Kendrick was saying mean things.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like, that was.

[Ish]

That.

[Joe Button]

That was the.

[Corey]

That was the crux of the building.

[Joe Button]

He was being mean. And there may be some people that are believing it.

[Mona]

Cool.

[Joe Button]

My brother niggas was telling you, you got beat up, you got punched in the face, you lost the battle. Niggas still love you. You still who you are. Come on back to the. Come on back to the party. See, that's what happens in American hoods. No matter what went down at. I mean, I'll use me at the basketball court down Communicore. You had to come back. You had to come back. If you beat somebody up, you got to come back. You can't go high. You got to come back. And now they know. They know that you be at the courts. They might pull up. That can happen. Hey, if you fucking get beat up, you just gotta come back. If niggas start shooting over there, you gotta come back. Hey, they started cracking on. You gotta come back. You didn't get picked for. For 10 folds. You sat there all day. Guess what, you gotta come back. There's a home base. There's a home base for you to lose like you lost and then take your ball and go to. And go to Australia and Sweden and Portugal and wherever you and Yachty was at. Turks, you'd have been everywhere else just because of a loss.

[Corey]

That part.

[Joe Button]

That's the part niggas don't respect. Yeah. Anybody could have lost to Kendrick. Nigga, you not exempt. Kendrick is one of them. Yeah.

[Mona]

Facts.

[Joe Button]

But the way that you lost, how you lose that fight and how niggas see you get jumped in the schoolyard. Yeah. Nah, that matters.

[Mona]

It's a way to get beat up.

[Joe Button]

That matters.

[Ish]

He lost the fight at school and switched schools.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He's a first school far school.

[Mona]

He switched districts.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he switched whole district districts down south. Yeah, that.

[Mona]

That's the.

[Joe Button]

That's not. That ain't. That's not respectable. That's not. It's just not respectable. It's not. So I don't know what is for me to say about this. This is unprecedented. Yeah, it is. I've never seen nothing like this in my life.

[Corey]

Never.

[Joe Button]

I feel like I'm too old for. I feel like I feel like my uncles back when I was hype off of kid and play and Kwame and NC Ham, and they was like, you know, it's over. It's over. Like, we don't care. Don't come hip hop. I'm off of that. Whatever y' all doing there, it's not hip hop. I feel like that at 45 and going on 50.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So, Joe, if Drake calls you tonight and he could.

[Joe Button]

I'm not talking to him. Some niggas got bad juju on them. Don't put me in no conversation where I have to talk to people that I believe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

Have bad juju. If his juju.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Juju.

[Joe Button]

Juju's bad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I guess Bob ties.

[Joe Button]

All you niggas that's out there, y' all killing people. Y' all shooting kids, and they want to come to the party and dap me up. I don't need that.

[Ish]

Exchange your energy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fair enough.

[Ish]

Ice.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Ice, Drake calls you tonight.

[Ish]

I don't shoot niggas either, but go ahead, Ice.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Drake calls you tonight and says, yo, what's my next best move? What should I do right now to fix this or to make this better?

[Mona]

Better.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And I got the same question for you. Is your Mona, what do you say to him? In parks, of course.

[Ish]

Focus on the music, dog. Like, you just gotta focus on the music.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Ish]

And. And keep.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Drop this. Drop the appeal, too.

[Ish]

You gotta let that go. It's over. Let it go.

[Joe Button]

Move.

[Ish]

He hinted that he was doing that, where he was like, yo, we back to the vibes, back to the music, all of that, but you still here. Let it go. You lost. It's okay.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Ish]

It's okay.

[Corey]

And he's not even, like, he's a pop fucking megastar at this point. Like, all the hip hop, street cred, fucking respectability shit. It is what it is. First of all, the Ls. L take your L and take the.

[Ish]

L, take the L, it's okay.

[Corey]

But just make some slaps, bro.

[Ish]

Pops, how you bounce back after a L says a lot.

[Corey]

I would be totally into a super introspective rap shit, or I would be totally into him just doing fucking Nokia records. Like, I'm cool. I love, like, both those Drakes.

[Mona]

So get a trainer and do legs and arms. No, I mean, it's not right. It's like you always trying to cut dick and, you know, stop cheating and eat some protein to get your body together.

[Corey]

Cut dick.

[Mona]

Like, cutting dick is like, you're cheating like you're trying to find a faster way to get there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know, I've never heard.

[Ish]

Never heard that he go get ass.

[Mona]

He got his flanks all chubby. His love handles. That not. You know, though.

[Corey]

You think that's.

[Mona]

It's like he don't have friends. Nobody. I mean, he put his. He. He posted himself with them up ass abs online. He did that. He doesn't know he don't have no friends. That's possible leg day, right?

[Joe Button]

I just want the slaps.

[Ish]

That's it. Majority of us just want the slaps.

[Joe Button]

No. Well, I want him to be okay. Like his mental health and all of that. Cuz I don't like, this is not that important to me. Like, I want him to be well. And slaps. If we can't get that, then what do you want me to do? Right? What do you want me to do?

[Mona]

Cool.

[Joe Button]

Like, you musicians don't even produce enough music for me to care about shit the way that some of these parasocial niggas are caring about y'. All. Like, it's not even enough. You're not going. No, no, no, no.

[Ish]

Swallow your pride a little bit, man. Because it seemed like his stance is all right. If y' all don't fuck with me as in America. Fuck y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mona]

Fuck y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'mma show y' all by going to Europe. Yeah, I'mma go over there where they still love me over there. And I'm just going to make music for them with them, praise them.

[Corey]

That's a weird approach.

[Ish]

Fuck y'. All like, all right. If I ain't wanted here, cool. I'm not American anyway. Y' all need. It's like I'm trying to show y' all that y' all need me more than I need y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Corey]

That's yes.

[Joe Button]

I ain't gonna lie. The judge saying that everything is kind of allowable in a diss track. It's Fire is Heat.

[Corey]

That's fine.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I appreciate it.

[Corey]

Especially in the era of court, using lyrics against people like, yeah, that's fire. That's a dope precedent. In reality, on some other more serious diss tracks, like, it would have went the other way.

[Ish]

It had been very scary.

[Corey]

It's very scary.

[Ish]

Shout out to that judge. Just. I'm talking about for that language.

[Joe Button]

I'm not to put it out the joint. I started writing. Don't worry. You good with me.

[Ish]

Who you talking about?

[Corey]

You mean is this.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying, once the judge said that, I just started writing A few verses about everybody. Did you? Yeah. It's a cheat code. Y' all can't write no diss track.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I will get somebody. I get a ghost.

[Joe Button]

I cut dick.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I get. I get a ghost, right?

[Ish]

Person. I'm the person. I'mma get beat you already. So I'll just run back to him.

[Joe Button]

He beat everybody. In your book. In your book. He never lost. Little beat. Nine hundred and zero. No. No ars tomorrow, my brother.

[Ish]

He did beat you, though. But still.

[Joe Button]

I'm going get a little beat. We got it, brother.

[Ish]

We got it.

[Corey]

I'm get a little beat.

[Joe Button]

My little beat is somebody to beat me.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Two people beat is somebody to beat me. Are we done with. With Drake?

[Corey]

Aubrey, man, make some slaps, man.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's it.

[Joe Button]

Stop being a bitch.

[Mona]

Low carb, high pressure.

[Joe Button]

You got this. Go. Go to the fucking embassy. Call up some women in their 30s, preferably like to hook up some white wine. I mean, we seen you bartend.

[Ish]

Bartend.

[Joe Button]

Do some fly. Make some drinks for the baddies, nigga. Chill. Smoke some hookah. Just bask. Bask in your glory of what you've done already. Don't step on your own dope.

[Mona]

Dope.

[Ish]

Call steak.

[Joe Button]

Ask for 79% of the company Now. Yeah, y' all don't even that. My beef wouldn't even be in music. I would be pressing everybody else. Yo, I need 98% of your whole company. I'm Drake. The whole shit, the plane ain't enough.

[Ish]

The whole shit, the plane ain't enough. Now. I don't need that plane.

[Joe Button]

I would be running around sticking people up off the equity I built in music.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Which I think that's what.

[Corey]

I'm sure he is.

[Ish]

No, you can't.

[Joe Button]

I ain't sure of that. There was rumors that he's beefing with the Steak niggas now.

[Ish]

You can't, because this shit has impacted.

[Joe Button]

Your leverage, and that's why. Part of why he was suing.

[Ish]

Exactly my point.

[Joe Button]

That's part of why he was suing.

[Ish]

What are we talking about right here?

[Joe Button]

This is out of his mouth, not ours.

[Ish]

It makes sense.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It does and it doesn't.

[Ish]

Fuck is you talking about? That makes sense?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, no. It makes sense that he would do it from a business perspective, but you can't enter a rap battle which is under these rules, and then take the L and move over there.

[Ish]

I think we're conflating. I think they too. Totally.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think if you start a fight. Which he did.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know what I'm saying? And I'M talking about in terms of the intensity of the back and forth, which is what the judge was saying. And you get to the point where people are saying that about each other. You said he's. You talking about Kendrick's domestic situations. You talking about who you know, this, that, and the third, he's talking about this about you. You got to take that as L. That's the context. That's what the judge is saying.

[Ish]

You opened that door.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what I'm saying. So you just gotta take the L. I think it's corny. It would be like if me and you got into a fistfight. Yo, let's take it outside. We go around back, we rumble, and then one of us wins the other one. Call the police.

[Mona]

Call the police are.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what I don't break in your face.

[Joe Button]

Wait, we got cop callers in here.

[Ish]

It's not the same.

[Mona]

This. This.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The thing.

[Mona]

This is how I feel is I think I agree with everything you saying. And I. I get the whole business perspective, but just like hip hop, it was just bad timing. You couldn't have sued them then, cuz it was gonna always look like you was just crying, cuz you lost that battle. Exactly. That's it. So it's like he should have did at a different time.

[Ish]

I agree with that wholehearted. If he would have waited a year to sue Universal or some shit, then it would have made sense, even some months. But he couldn't. Because his whole premise behind suing Universal was y' all put the sauce to.

[Mona]

That song to make it bigger.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But here's why I also don't like it.

[Ish]

You get what I'm saying? He couldn't have waited. Cause it didn't even look crazy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Here's what I like about the sauce thing. To use your point.

[Joe Button]

That's what the music business does to good songs.

[Ish]

That's the point.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't like it for him, but that's my point. Like you said, I know when y' all put the gas on it. Cause y' all did it for me. Me, you, you. You win by the.

[Ish]

I just don't like that y' all put the gas on that record. Because I'm affected by.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You stepped on a million artists who may have had more organic records. Right. Because they put the gas on it by that logic. So now one got you take the L, fam.

[Mona]

Cool, bro.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I'm just saying, like, I think. I think we just conflating the issues. And I don't feel like I got. You sound like I'm all right.

[Joe Button]

This new music out well, they already think. Think. Anything you say is defending Drake.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't want to make you look like you're capable for Drake.

[Ish]

People hear what they want to hear.

[Joe Button]

Y' all just look alike. I don't think y'. All.

[Ish]

I don't look like.

[Mona]

Y' all could be cousins.

[Joe Button]

You like Drake.

[Mona]

Y' all could be cousins.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You could be related.

[Mona]

Y' all could be cousins.

[Corey]

You could do the lookalike.

[Ish]

All light skinned people look alike.

[Mona]

True.

[Joe Button]

No, just you and Drake. We look like I'm light skinned. I don't look like y'. All.

[Ish]

You're not light skinned.

[Mona]

You're not light skinned.

[Ish]

Caramel.

[Joe Button]

It. Fished for a compliment.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

Caught one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's your man.

[Joe Button]

All right. What else is important?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

New music.

[Joe Button]

What else is new?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Mob Deep came out.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God, I love it.

[Corey]

It's so fire.

[Joe Button]

Who wants to fight with me? Come on. I just want to fight with somebody. Fight with me.

[Corey]

It's such.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Why?

[Ish]

Somebody.

[Joe Button]

Somebody fight with me. Somebody fight with me. Come on. Come on.

[Ish]

What am I fighting with you about? I ain't hear it if I heard it and I ain't like it.

[Joe Button]

I'll fight with you, but I ain't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a Mobb Deep came out of the album. Is it 15 tracks?

[Joe Button]

Infinity.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Infinity. 15 tracks. I know. Havoc did like 11 of them.

[Corey]

15. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And Alchemist did the other four.

[Joe Button]

The funk. Sorry, guys.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So the production isn't quite as, like, diverse as some of the old Mobb Deep albums.

[Joe Button]

It's just those two.

[Corey]

I'm just saying, most Mobb Deep albums were alchemists in half.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Half and half. The same way I thought most.

[Corey]

For the most part, I thought the product.

[Joe Button]

Damn, they carried this out.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I love the production. I wouldn't say it was bad. I was saying I loved it, actually. I love having that many Havoc tracks, actually. And for the Alchemist, Havoc is still him. And the thing is, it sounded like. It didn't sound to me like somebody trying to make new music or trying to catch a new sound.

[Corey]

They did what they did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They did what they do. It sounded like organic Mob Deep music. Some of the content, obviously is gonna be dated because Prodigy's not with us. You know what I mean? So you have to accept Rest in peace, Prodigy. Yeah, Rest in peace, P. Like, it's always gonna be tracks and stuff like that that you wish could have a more modern conversation. But it's classic Mobb Deep. It sounds great. It feels great.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure. And Prodigy was never, like, the current events type of rapper. So it's.

[Joe Button]

It.

[Corey]

There's nothing really on here. Too much that I was like, oh, this is from 10 years ago or something.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know, there was one, like, Covid reference from Havoc that I loved, and I was like, I would have loved it. You know what is. Before Project died, we started to get pretty close, and he was. He would always hit me with the. The conspiracy theory stuff.

[Corey]

That's his bag.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So I kind of wonder what he'd be thinking about COVID what he'd be thinking about Trump. I just want.

[Joe Button]

I.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And it felt so good. I wanted to hear that. And it just reminded me that he's not with us. It's not a criticism. It's just like, he's just not with us.

[Ish]

And, you know, you would have got that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I know I would have got that from you. So it's more just like. It's more selfish, just wanting more from him.

[Joe Button]

It was really refreshing to hear from Prodigy.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

For me.

[Corey]

And it's not like one of them weird. They found some old freestyles and doctored it and made it sound like something. These sound like. They definitely just had a bunch of songs.

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear it. Like.

[Corey]

Like, postumous slap together.

[Ish]

I haven't heard the album. So let me just ask y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

Is this the infamous.

[Ish]

Which album are the. Are these. Are they all, like, new verses?

[Corey]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Okay. Good.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And hooks and every. It's really like a different vow. It's a new album.

[Ish]

Like, for real.

[Joe Button]

For real. So new. Mob Deep.

[Mona]

How do y' all even know when Mob Deep drops? Like, where do you get that information at?

[Joe Button]

We're New Yorkers.

[Corey]

Yeah, the Internet. I follow Heather.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I follow my ass appeal.

[Corey]

Yeah. That's all.

[Joe Button]

I follow Hit Boy. I follow the producer, Al Alchemist.

[Ish]

I open my apple every Friday at midnight.

[Corey]

It's right there at the top of the street.

[Joe Button]

And I search for music, like, as a music lover.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And my deepest trend for the last studio.

[Mona]

That's news I could use now. I could do that.

[Joe Button]

I got you.

[Mona]

That's my nigga.

[Joe Button]

And something else they did on this that I thought was fly. First of all, I love Mobb Deep, specifically Prodigy. Talking about eating pussy and fucking bitches from the back. I know that they got clowned anytime they made a love song, but I love Mobb Deep love songs. And not only did they give me one, they did something I thought was pretty fly, which was they made two songs out of the same song.

[Corey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I thought that was super fly. So I'm gonna play the first version of the Georgia version, which is. Yeah. Which is down for you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. I like the second one.

[Joe Button]

But on love the way is when they got they off for real. For real. But they both really good. This beat is incredible.

[Corey]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Button]

He lost his mind. Yeah, he lost his mind in the production.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

See that talk that running back.

[Joe Button]

Running back. Damn this. Any rapper that hears this beat running back. This is sickening.

[Ish]

I already know what you would have Rapper Joe would have did with the this one.

[Joe Button]

Most of the beats on here are bad.

[Ish]

Everything about you be it for me what the hell you done did to me this not normal can't keep my.

[Joe Button]

Mind off what I told you to a whole other level but you work.

[Ish]

Your way into my mental I was in trouble from the minute that I met you Flying colors but you pass when I test you call yourself know.

[Joe Button]

I'm rough what it is blaming the.

[Ish]

The trenches I won't mention how I'm feeling now it's not what I expected.

[Joe Button]

But I'm going with Nas is on both of these records. Hey, wait a minute. Wait. Queens, what up? Hey. Oh, she mass appeal. Great project. Great project. What a flair.

[Mona]

I blew a kiss at HDR from afar at a Georgia Smith concert show.

[Ish]

Probably respond like Holly did I got.

[Mona]

A list Tiana, Zoe so Donna, Madonna.

[Ish]

Wish I could twist.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nas does no wrong for me hey, Nas could do.

[Joe Button]

No wrong for me, man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Especially late.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Nas got that casino and was like, you know what, man? Three verses for you. Three verses for you. Listen, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna beat y'.

[Corey]

All. Play that gunfire a little bit.

[Joe Button]

I got you. I gotta be right there. I got you.

[Corey]

The guy was an Al.

[Joe Button]

It's one of the most stupid.

[Ish]

So no.

[Joe Button]

How could you not want to hear Havoc beats and Prodigy verses?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's hip hop right there.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's it.

[Ish]

All the debating and conversation about who the top get back me and H is the most likely to beat a.

[Joe Button]

Up still clap a oh, you thought.

[Ish]

I was done I'm peening for a.

[Joe Button]

Nigga approach me raise up I'm dying for a to try it have some fun.

[Ish]

Money call back the highlight of.

[Mona]

Your life is my part back so.

[Ish]

Embedded in my DNA to be blocked.

[Joe Button]

Up how my pop raised me Young.

[Corey]

History that record, the. The clips record is fire.

[Joe Button]

Already on it, gentlemen. Already on it, gentlemen. Clips continue in their run. Yep. It makes all the sense in the world that the clips Are on a Mob Deep album if you heard the clips album I can't comprehend you not.

[Ish]

Talking money Only language I speak be dumb struck they gonna die hungry I'm crafty, real foxy my reptilian brain I had you curled up trying to stop bleeding good nigga I'm chill like the.

[Joe Button]

Icebox hood nigga, I'm sorry if you not. How could you? You a civilian, so how would you.

[Ish]

Understand the light of power and privilege?

[Joe Button]

You're not privy to this growth business.

[Ish]

Little stay on your run and watch your mouth I cut out your tongue.

[Corey]

Yo, give me a bottle. Enj out the COVID please. So Bacardi Lamone.

[Joe Button]

I feel like they put an album out for the heads.

[Corey]

Yeah, I need a Dutch master tonight.

[Joe Button]

Exactly at three, three to nine. It's mad time. That's. That's the time I was on. Hey, new accounts. Wake up over there, man. Yeah, you got to check out the infamous.

[Ish]

I'm check out the clips right now.

[Joe Button]

You got to check out Hell on Earth.

[Corey]

Word music.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, you got to check that YouTube, man. Y' all going to love the infamous.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The new John. I. I know you. My deep head. You going to love this. It's going to bring you back to your days.

[Corey]

Yeah, I'm going to the park tonight.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You might go sell drugs.

[Corey]

I'm listening to this.

[Joe Button]

Look at these niggas. Yo. Look at this. Look at that.

[Corey]

Salute to Mob Deep.

[Ish]

Salute.

[Corey]

Mass appeal.

[Joe Button]

Al, it was more music that came out, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I was. I was caught up in this. I ain't gonna hold you. This is all I was listening to, is my beat.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

There was a new Black Thought and Danger Monster sound. I hope they're doing a new album because I love the. Was that out the last album? Just a single with Rag and Bone. Man, that shit is tough.

[Joe Button]

We got a new Big Boogie record.

[Ish]

Okay, I heard the record.

[Joe Button]

We got a new Big Boogie record.

[Ish]

I was about to hit you. You cuz. I was like, I know Joe going to go crazy to this one.

[Joe Button]

That record is hard. But I. I feel like all his records are hard because I'm a bird and a diet and all he makes is strip club music. And he did it again. He did it again. So shout out to him. Amber, Mark put out an album. I only gave it a quick breeze through. I'll be back next week with what I think of that.

[Corey]

It's a tough time, but be a dropped the album and it wasn't bad.

[Joe Button]

Be dropped the project. So I've heard.

[Corey]

She me told rap yo, she was singing on a couple records and she's.

[Ish]

Not a bad singer.

[Mona]

Yeah, she can sing and rap.

[Corey]

Yeah, I never heard her sing before. Yeah, it's tough.

[Joe Button]

Beer is pretty good. I loved it. Beer.

[Ish]

But there was a five song jet.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, no, I know that face.

[Joe Button]

Me.

[Ish]

Nah, she can rap. Can I name five songs yet?

[Corey]

No, probably not. I could.

[Ish]

I.

[Corey]

With song titles.

[Ish]

I'm just asking.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you know why the Internet is stupid?

[Ish]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Some of the best artists in the world you can't name five songs from.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like who?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, like who? Oh, boy, I hate when you do this.

[Ish]

It's a lot of people. I don't know the song titles, but I could quote. I can sing all the words to the song.

[Joe Button]

You good for that.

[Ish]

What I'm saying, you be like, yo, who is this?

[Joe Button]

What I'm saying is there's too many amazing records that come from people that don't. That you can't name five songs from.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Ish]

You might get one or two. It was still a dope line.

[Corey]

I always say I'm horrible.

[Ish]

That line is still fire.

[Joe Button]

You can't name five. You can't name five Black Sheep songs.

[Ish]

Who?

[Joe Button]

Any of y'. All. I could go ahead.

[Mona]

Let's go. Oh, the first one is crazy.

[Ish]

I get stuck at one. It's just going.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You just be listening to tracks on the.

[Joe Button]

I can name people all day long that you can't name five songs from. That's some. That these 16 year olds on the Internet then came up with a new song. It's a good.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a mind back to the lawsuit.

[Ish]

It's not all factual, even if it worked.

[Joe Button]

So nobody's gonna correct the kids when they say stupid.

[Ish]

No, I name the records when they. They say that about you. You can't name five Joe Button songs. And now I go list 20.

[Mona]

Say that about you.

[Ish]

I go list 20 now.

[Joe Button]

We did.

[Mona]

It's.

[Ish]

It's niggas but people that don't work on. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not trying to go somewhere.

[Joe Button]

So I'm not.

[Ish]

I ain't trying to. I'm not trying to shoot. I'm just saying they say that about people. That and. And there's an answer.

[Joe Button]

It's with a million hits and smashes that you can name a hundred of these songs that have spent the latter part of their career copying every single thing that one hit wonder Joe Button does. And there's a list of y' all that's true. There's a long list of y'. All. So. I mean.

[Ish]

And that list is growing.

[Joe Button]

Oh, every day. Every day is growing. I try not to say it because I love some of y', all, but I see what y' all are doing. Y' all are in my ass and it's not going without being noticed.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You don't consider yourself a one hit wonder, do you? Technically not.

[Ish]

Technically, he's not. By the definition of it, he's not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I mean, even in the. Technically, he's definitely not. But like, I don't know.

[Joe Button]

I have more than one song chart.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

So. But I do understand the culture calling me a one Hit Wonder.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When I think of One Hit Wonder.

[Joe Button]

Bump it up was out of here. Pump it up was out here. And if you don't have another song that ever matches where one of your song, where one of your songs went, then that's how they view you.

[Ish]

Yeah, but it's a lot of one song will get weird.

[Mona]

Exactly.

[Ish]

Pump It Up.

[Mona]

Win not the one.

[Ish]

That's why they can't.

[Joe Button]

That's why they can't talk to me.

[Corey]

But there's also a bunch of people. When I think of One Hit Wonder, I think if you had one hit and then you felt.

[Ish]

Where the. Is this person?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like Apache is no dis. I'm thinking like. Or song. I'm just thinking of songs where you rest in peace. Apache. Rest in peace.

[Ish]

You almost got jumped.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You saw me stop. I thought your neck turned around quick. And I'm just saying like that there's some people got one amazing song and.

[Joe Button]

Then you literally can't like, name some Philly.

[Ish]

That's one hit wonders.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No such thing.

[Ish]

All right, cool.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

C. Cool.

[Mona]

Cuz he went to jail.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, but like we said, like, like most people from our era know the glamorous life that's before you. You know what I'm talking about? Obvious.

[Mona]

The glam.

[Ish]

You from my era.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You right there.

[Joe Button]

Witty.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know what I'm saying? You got it right. You can't name another cool season. To me, that's One hit Wonder. Not being in the culture, being part of different groups, being on the underground scene, doing all these. To me, that's not one hit wonder.

[Joe Button]

And they can't call me One hit Wonder because that wasn't a hit no more. We in smash land. Yeah. We in smash fucking legacy. Lifetime record. You ain't hit for the rest of your life.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And that's it. Hit is Snow Informer.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That is a one hit wonder.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Good one. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's a good one.

[Joe Button]

The hit is fucking one of those.

[Ish]

This is why I'm hot. No disrespect to Mims.

[Joe Button]

That's a good hit to have. Yes, that's the one hit wonder. Good hit to have. Shout out to Mims. But it's a great one. Yeah. No, they can't call me a one hit on one that. You liable to go outside to the game tomorrow and hear that shit.

[Ish]

Probably will anyways anyhows.

[Joe Button]

Are we all done with everything that happened in new music?

[Corey]

I think so.

[Ish]

Just double check really fast.

[Joe Button]

Can Drake battle somebody else?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Why?

[Corey]

No, It'd be a tough fight.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It'd be a tough fight.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think he would do it.

[Ish]

I don't think he needs to do that.

[Joe Button]

Can he? Yeah, for sure he can.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think he would.

[Ish]

Well, yes, he can.

[Joe Button]

He can. Be clear.

[Ish]

He's still got a fan base. He's still. He ain't like everybody ain't turned it back.

[Corey]

He's still better than most.

[Ish]

He cannot rap a lot of you, Nick.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He will win the battle if most likely. But I don't think he does it. I think he's probably gonna be gunshot.

[Ish]

No, he just asked Kenny how many battles and he can mop a bunch of up quick.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. I wouldn't want. I wouldn't want to win.

[Corey]

Yeah. Most people don't want that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And you know he gonna overdo it.

[Ish]

If he does, he has to make an example out of the next nigga. Cause now niggas think you sweet, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But he wasn't sweet in the Kendrick one. That's the thing. He made a lot of good music.

[Corey]

He did.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Now niggas looking at you with the lawsuit.

[Corey]

You fucked up the legacy, even that battle.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Like, it was a good fight, but now it don't look like a good fight, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, it looks like he did not for one person.

[Joe Button]

One person thinks it looks like a phenomenal.

[Ish]

I was just getting ready to say.

[Joe Button]

One person think it went exactly. I mean, he thought it would go.

[Ish]

Grammy, super bowl, like one stadium tour, worldwide. Still on tour. I seen the video.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Pulitzer.

[Corey]

Good fight implies that it was a competitive match.

[Ish]

It wasn't a good fight. Right.

[Joe Button]

But Kendrick never thought it would be competitive. They pulling up all of Kendrick's old verses that say, I can't believe that y' all think that number two is number one when I'm right here. Like, that's been his sentiment since the Big Sean song, since the BET cipher. He never looked at dude like the.

[Ish]

Rest of the world looked at him.

[Joe Button]

Which is part of where some of the greatest lines from this battle come from. True.

[Ish]

I hate the way you walk.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the love.

[Joe Button]

That line. Like, do y' all know how he's a.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's my favorite.

[Joe Button]

I hate the way you walk, the way that you talk. I hate the way that you dress. Even the shirts you get out of bed and put on. I despise them shits. Like, what are y'?

[Ish]

All. He the way you say, nigga, he never saw.

[Joe Button]

Hey, but that's just me.

[Ish]

I guess it ain't even.

[Joe Button]

But it wasn't. And even if it was, for you to explain it the way you did. Yeah. You made enough people look at him differently. And he has to feel that. He has to feel that. He has to feel that. And I would like to see him bounce back. Cause I make more money when he bounces back.

[Ish]

It's just new. This is all new territory for him. Yo, I've been the golden child since I dropped.

[Joe Button]

Even when.

[Ish]

Even with the Meek shit. Even with the Pusha T shit. It was little chinks here and there, but it wasn't it. None of y' all ever turned them all against me.

[Joe Button]

What I'll add is for the. For the head. For the. For the heads argument that's been there a few years about what Drake. What. What equity Drake gets from hopping on all of these songs from all of the right now artists. Because he's the biggest artist in the world. He's helping these people. And he was. But there was always that question of what he's getting in return. Because people, if you didn't know the music business, you couldn't figure that part out. That's what's visibly missing right now, too. That's what would help to carry him right this second, as it has in the past.

[Ish]

And that's what comes.

[Joe Button]

But during a much more turbulent time. If he had lost this battle, like he lost his battle and went and hopped on some Spanish records, some White Holes record like a bunch of that nobody cared about.

[Corey]

Hey there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, Nobody cares.

[Ish]

I still don't understand that part.

[Joe Button]

But if he took the hottest songs from the hottest American acts and put a verse on it, it would help him coast through these trying times.

[Ish]

Like, I don't get why Drake is not on Thug's album.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you do.

[Ish]

I don't like. I don't get why.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's a lot of. Whose decision is that?

[Ish]

I don't know. But I'm just saying there's a lot of people that they didn't turn their back on him.

[Joe Button]

If you got eyes, it looks like. It looks like it's Dr. Drake's decision. It looked. Because Thug seemed to have everybody that is with him on that album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, that's what I would have assumed.

[Joe Button]

On there crying about Drake for a million bars. Like, he on there telling her he's begging for help and forgiveness. You're different.

[Ish]

I love you.

[Joe Button]

You taught me.

[Ish]

But even prior to that, like, all of your.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Future.

[Ish]

Okay, we can understand. I didn't see no little baby. Like, I don't see.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ish]

I'm talking about Drake doing records. Doing records with these people. You just kept running with Sexy Red and. But. But where's everybody else? You still have relationships out there. And these people, even during all that, made it their business to not come out and. And say nothing about it. They just turned the other. They turned their heads to it didn't play the song. Yeah, they didn't. They no cut that off. Look like they showed they. They were standing with you even when the rest of the country wasn't. So when you bounce back, go holl at them.

[Mona]

Why not?

[Ish]

You ran to London and jumped on Central C Records.

[Mona]

He mad.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm about to say when you're sensitive. When you're sensitive in one area, you're sensitive in two areas. Like, if you're looking at. If you looking at Kendrick saying you were saying mean things, then you looking at a few other. If you're looking at LeBron saying you went to the show and that was mean. Like, if you identifying where everybody was mean, then, yeah, you. You mad at a few niggas, dog.

[Ish]

Do you know the effort it takes? Not like us was everywhere. Do you know the effort it took for, like, the niggas who was still moving around to not be, like, turned up when that song come on? Like, you didn't catch none of them niggas to even where you could be mad at them. They. They had to go out. They wait for that. You could not escape that record nowhere. Yeah, so now that means I'm actively making sure I'm out the spot. If it plays, wherever you go is gonna play. You don't catch every turning up or my section turning up. Like, put actually put effort into showing I'm still rocking with. Dude, we ain't gonna play nothing with that record. That should stand for something. You could not escape that record at.

[Mona]

All, which in reality is crazy. In reality, your friend should be able to listen to that song without you. Getting a fucking attitude. That's weird as shit.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You listen to. You should be on stage.

[Mona]

You shouldn't be on stage. But you having. It's in the background of the gym. The way that. The thing about it is people. People perceive things that way. So even if it is in the background while you working out, people gonna make it a bigger deal. But the fact that you actually give a shows how much of a you are. Because that's weird.

[Ish]

Cool.

[Mona]

Why would you care?

[Ish]

But the fact that your friends are making sure that they're not caught in them situations for sure. For sure. Should stand for something too.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hell yeah.

[Mona]

Because they're going through a lot today. Do that. Yeah.

[Ish]

That's all I'm saying.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

That takes effort to not do that.

[Mona]

Yeah. But he's mad. He's upset at all.

[Ish]

Yeah. I don't understand.

[Joe Button]

One day we would have to look at the. We would have to be faced with a music business that didn't involve all of the fake phony friendships.

[Ish]

Oh, that ain't never happened.

[Corey]

Good luck.

[Ish]

That is never happening.

[Joe Button]

No, we there.

[Ish]

They still fake phony and friendly.

[Joe Button]

It's not like it was. It's not like it was with that whole DJ Khaled unit. Yeah. That we went through the.

[Ish]

We are the world.

[Joe Button]

We are the world.

[Ish]

Arizona.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

Yeah. We over that.

[Joe Button]

That is.

[Ish]

But got they. They.

[Joe Button]

Some of you have to stand on your own now. Some of y' all can't rely on your industry relationships. You can't just call the person that's on fire and hot. No. You gotta sink or swim now. Yeah. It's on y'. All. Enough. Enough of that. Enough of that. Hey, that's what hip hop know. Everybody wasn't all Kuchi crunch when hip hop started. Never like that was some new. I know kids have been born and became adults in that era. So they don't know another world. But hey, these never liked each other. Word ever. It never happened. That's a fact.

[Ish]

And don't get it confused. Even if they do a record together or two songs or a couple, they did not like each other. Like from our era.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Would be on the Posse cup.

[Joe Button]

But.

[Ish]

And I'm trying to take your head off on his record. I really don't with you.

[Joe Button]

Right. Canadian is worn out. Is welcome. I miss him.

[Corey]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

I miss him. No matter how bad I talk about, I miss him.

[Ish]

I think. I think that's what he's doing. I'm gonna make Y' all miss me?

[Corey]

Good.

[Joe Button]

Well, he can't make me miss him because I got all the music he ain't gonna make. If he. Now, if he get back to making dog views, even though I killed it all, I ain't got to go through it. Y' all know who. Y' all know who he is.

[Ish]

You know him.

[Joe Button]

If he get back to that, I'm gonna come on here and change my whole tune.

[Ish]

Let me ask you a question in terms of. I'll keep thinking about this. So let's say Iceman dropped.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's.

[Ish]

It's successful.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Can he tour the United States if it's not a stadium tour?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. You can do arenas. Yeah, for sure. Okay.

[Ish]

Cause I just.

[Joe Button]

Let's not be foolish, man.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I know what he's saying.

[Joe Button]

Let's not be foolish.

[Ish]

No, no, no. That's not. No, no, no. What I'm saying is because of that, him and Kendrick, back and forth.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Will he really. Is the question. Will he really like. Will he now.

[Ish]

Now, if you do. He just went and did a stadium tour, sold it out. So now if you come out and.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Go to the Prudential center and start.

[Ish]

Doing arenas again, they're gonna look at you like, ah, you not. And his image is very important, but.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think Drake can still do stadiums.

[Joe Button]

Let's not be stupid, man. I did arenas for two weeks in a row in New York City.

[Ish]

New York. I'm talking about the country.

[Joe Button]

You didn't sold. I probably sold more tickets out that arena in the week I was there than you did in the stadium.

[Ish]

I get it. I, I, I. That's one stop. I'm talking about the country. Okay. He could easily go do what Kendrick did.

[Corey]

Get another star and do a stadium. Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[Joe Button]

He could do a stadium without another star.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think Drake.

[Ish]

I know my stance.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't.

[Ish]

I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

He 100%.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You think Drake wouldn't sell stadiums?

[Ish]

No. After watching. After watching what Chris Brown is doing.

[Joe Button]

If you could do seven shows in an arena, you're selling out of state, bro.

[Ish]

Y' all keep living telling me about what he did in New York, and I'm talking about Cleveland.

[Joe Button]

I'm talking about New York.

[Ish]

No, you. You didn't do seven shows a night in Cleveland. He didn't do seven shows.

[Joe Button]

He did multiple shows in every city he loved. He did multiple shows in every city that had a few holes in sundresses. He did multiple shows. If he wanted to be in your city for a Longer time he was there.

[Ish]

Like not play with him. I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Let's not be crazy with him.

[Ish]

I'm saying that about rappers. I've been. I've never moved on this point. He not a rapper.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Stop it. Freeze.

[Ish]

I would love to see it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

His statement going to have a whole lot of white people, whole lot of pop.

[Ish]

Honestly, I'm watching what Chris Brown is doing and that is magnificent.

[Mona]

Crazy.

[Ish]

That is magnificent. So what I'm saying is if Chris.

[Joe Button]

Brown could do a. Drake could do it.

[Ish]

Chris Brown was in D.C. for three nights. I was in D.C. last night and that was turned. Turned up.

[Joe Button]

You went to DC for the Chris Brown show?

[Ish]

I didn't go to the show but I was in D.C. last night and that way is the city was.

[Joe Button]

Why would you go to D.C. and not go to your cousin's show?

[Ish]

Cuz I have business to attend and Chris Brown is already rich.

[Joe Button]

Believe it's your shot.

[Mona]

But you know he flies through the air. He flies through the.

[Ish]

Joe, you could not believe in whatever you want. That's fine.

[Joe Button]

You could have went to the show.

[Ish]

Okay, okay. Go see your cousin.

[Joe Button]

Go to your cousin and introduce your family anyway. Yes, his cousin, but he don't introduce himself.

[Ish]

As I was stating, bro, we back to the family now. Three nights in a row.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Don't notice. We trying to get we to get to know you.

[Ish]

He went crazy three nights in a.

[Mona]

I mean if it's his cousin and he don't know it's his cousin, it don't matter.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He know it's his cousin. He know they going.

[Joe Button]

If Drake wanted to sit in D.C. for a week and a half, then he would have been there.

[Ish]

Houston, D.C. louisiana, New York.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, and I'm saying Drake could do the same.

[Joe Button]

He just don't like Cleveland.

[Ish]

Oh no, they will come to Cleveland too. You talking about they go see the Browns.

[Joe Button]

Cleveland ain't bad if you like hard working holes, yo.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Button]

Come on, yo. Cleveland ain't for real. Teach me, teach me.

[Ish]

Y' all playing?

[Joe Button]

I think all. I think they all like from land.

[Ish]

Man, you wrong. No, you're wrong. You are very wrong.

[Mona]

Some bad.

[Ish]

A long time ago monsters.

[Mona]

I saw Cleveland.

[Ish]

You're right. I have no idea.

[Joe Button]

I know. Stop trying to relate to ish.

[Ish]

I'm not relating to ish.

[Joe Button]

Family ties is in Cleveland. You never nothing from Cleveland. Shut up. You always trying to be down. Shut up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hey, Joe, you didn't said you never nothing from Cleveland.

[Joe Button]

You didn't nothing from Cleveland.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This man up from.

[Joe Button]

Ask him.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You up from Cleveland.

[Ish]

I said it.

[Joe Button]

You got me.

[Ish]

Got me. No, cuz, he tried to do it. Yo. A long time ago, though.

[Mona]

Long, long, long time ago like that.

[Ish]

Yo, stop playing with me, Joe. Stop playing with me, though. No, no, no. Stop playing with me.

[Joe Button]

You not.

[Ish]

I know what you doing. You my man. Stop playing with me, though. Let them get you out your Zen, yo.

[Mona]

Like jump, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that and I hope they burning the hell.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hey, check that out.

[Ish]

No, listen, I'm gonna do the ad.

[Joe Button]

When I was in Cleveland.

[Corey]

I was.

[Joe Button]

Staying at the Marriott or some Porsche. Stupid ass Cory. I looked out the window, it was action. It looked like Columbus Square.

[Ish]

I walked downstairs, I said, let me.

[Joe Button]

Go walk to cvs. Let's see if you know what I mean. Get something popping. I walked down there, all types of homeless started talking to me, following me around. And it must have been like right after school, kids was.

[Ish]

I said, oh, where was you at? Where was you at?

[Joe Button]

Let me get the back to my room. Stupid. I don't know where I was at, man. I don't know.

[Ish]

Wherever Corey booked us on the west side.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Go in that mall over there, in that side.

[Joe Button]

The CVS was close, but it was like a little walk.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Cleveland. These sneakers came from cle. Who got better chicks, Cleveland or Detroit?

[Ish]

I never been in Detroit. Detroit.

[Mona]

Detroit.

[Ish]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.

[Ish]

No, no, no, not some. It's a lot of fire.

[Joe Button]

No, Detroit got heat.

[Ish]

The good Stu. You go that rooftop at the nine. I listen, we not. It's levels.

[Corey]

Shout out to the Midwest, man.

[Joe Button]

Detroit specifically. And Chicago.

[Corey]

Chicago. Milwaukee.

[Joe Button]

Milwaukee. Yes. Yeah. Shout out to Milwaukee.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Not you, Mr. 37.

[Corey]

Columbus, Ohio.

[Ish]

Mr. What, 28. Nobody know what you're talking about but you.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah. Not you, Mr. Taylor. 71.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I don't get it, but. Shout out to Milwaukee. Okay.

[Ish]

Got you saying you ain't hit nothing in Milwaukee.

[Joe Button]

That's what he saying. I'm.

[Ish]

I'm just saying your number. Yeah, the numbers don't add up. Can't be all these cities if the number's that low.

[Joe Button]

Mr. Ishmail, I'm picking up what he putting down.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's cool.

[Joe Button]

I'm picking it up. You do became slow on that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Albuquerque.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's so fody, yo.

[Joe Button]

Albuquerque. I'm just identifying where I've seen.

[Ish]

What you call this beauty. Sweet Falls.

[Joe Button]

Sweet Falls.

[Mona]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

Sweet falls. Let's go. Listen Listen, man. Oh, I know some of y' all out there watching, wondering, did I slide anything from Milwaukee.

[Ish]

The Harley Davidson Museum?

[Joe Button]

I didn't. I didn't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a good answer.

[Joe Button]

Back. Back to my 71. No.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

71 what?

[Joe Button]

Oh, here we go. People. People I've slept with in a month.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's the in house? The sentence in my life.

[Ish]

Okay, sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We just saying.

[Ish]

Get on the podcast.

[Joe Button]

That's from an older episode where you weren't. You weren't a part of the crew yet. We all gave our body count.

[Ish]

No, we all did not give any body count.

[Joe Button]

Yours was in the thousands. Yours was in the thousands.

[Ish]

We all didn't do a thing.

[Joe Button]

Mine was 89. Like we did this before.

[Mona]

Yours is 89, right?

[Joe Button]

Yes. Well, back then.

[Ish]

That was two years ago.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What is it now?

[Joe Button]

Was it. Got to be careful.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Got to be careful.

[Joe Button]

What's your number? Mark. And yours? Mona. Yeah, I don't give a. You a girl. Yeah, both of y'. All.

[Corey]

How many people y'?

[Mona]

All? I wouldn't tell my number, cuz. Nobody. Why? You would believe it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I would believe it.

[Joe Button]

I believe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I believe anything you say.

[Mona]

I'm still not giving it up. The is wrong with you?

[Joe Button]

You smart.

[Ish]

Hey, you smart.

[Mona]

Very.

[Joe Button]

Mark.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Mark. I don't. I don't. I don't know. I'd have to think about it.

[Ish]

Oh, just. Just give us a ballpark.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I'm bad with math, man.

[Ish]

No, you're not. No, you're not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You got a PhD, not math. I don't know. It's.

[Joe Button]

It's just how many digits?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's under a thousand. It's under thunder Thousand.

[Mona]

Jesus Christ.

[Joe Button]

What's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I said under.

[Mona]

Under a th.

[Ish]

And over what, though? Give us the range. Over what, though?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Over one.

[Mona]

Over 500.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think so, but yes.

[Joe Button]

Wait a minute.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Joe.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Your number's 89.

[Joe Button]

And you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You speaking with that certainty about me?

[Joe Button]

No, no, no. His number's 89 is facetious. You have slept with more women.

[Ish]

You don't remember? Best man that N said this.

[Joe Button]

Dude, he.

[Ish]

He plump, busy hoes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What you say? What this N say? I need my headphones.

[Joe Button]

You my. Nah, listen, I gotta let you know, I noticed some people out there wondering. God damn it, what is prize pick?

[Corey]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. What Prize pick?

[Ish]

Gotta tell them.

[Joe Button]

I only been with 81 of them, so I could. I could take more, more, more.

[Ish]

So like 81 or.

[Joe Button]

And pick more or less.

[Ish]

Yes, exactly.

[Joe Button]

Demon. Demon. The Red one, too. Not the green one, yo. 281. 281.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's your number. I don't believe that.

[Mona]

I don't believe that either.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think that's a good. That might be the tour number.

[Mona]

No, I didn't do that.

[Joe Button]

I didn't do that on tour. I just brought out the cuddle.

[Mona]

I can say everybody, first name, last name. Y' all can't do that.

[Joe Button]

This was on the tour right here in Jersey.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh.

[Ish]

Yo, I just gotta deal with.

[Joe Button]

Me like 99 in this room. Jersey tour.

[Ish]

Not. Not you, though. Been the strips club, have bottle of milk.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This bring lube to the strip club saying it's number 81.

[Ish]

This been in strip club since his teenage years, bro.

[Joe Button]

Just looking consistent, yo.

[Ish]

Consistently shop around. Look, window shopping.

[Corey]

Window shopping. I'm just browsing a.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Some of the.

[Joe Button]

Some of the windows was open. Working records. Working records, you know, I mean, trying to get some Songs played at 16. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I made music at 16.

[Ish]

I know.

[Joe Button]

Didn't you build houses at 16?

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Button]

Oh, what you was doing at 16?

[Ish]

Answer.

[Joe Button]

Look, going to school, it's just such a hoe. Look at. Look, I was going to school anyway. All right, prize picks. Let me tell you what Prize picks.

[Mona]

Oh, man.

[Joe Button]

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[Ish]

Sweetie. Sweetie.

[Mona]

She's so pretty.

[Corey]

She is.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

She's so attractive.

[Ish]

She is.

[Mona]

And sweet and nice.

[Joe Button]

That's. That's you letting us know that you are in the Sweetie high.

[Mona]

No, I ain't in those. Sweetie, the music. The music. Trash the music's ass. Yeah, I ain't in Ohio. She just a bad. Like, I would buy it if I had the budget. Whatever she asked for, I would give.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Mona]

Yeah, she's bad.

[Joe Button]

She's perfect.

[Mona]

What you mean tonight if I'm paying? What you want, you staying tonight, you gotta cook in the morning.

[Ish]

You want.

[Corey]

I don't know if you watch Youngster a Sweetie.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You see what she be here.

[Mona]

We going to pray together and all that. She can make me one of them little oodles and noodles flavoring hot Cheetos setups. I don't give a.

[Joe Button]

Hood.

[Mona]

How many times can you say that? You ate flaming hot Cheeto with ranch dressing. With ranch dressing. And Sweetie made it for you in the kitchen naked.

[Joe Button]

Zero. Come on.

[Ish]

I want to keep it that way.

[Mona]

That's why I want it.

[Corey]

Why you going to be in the toilet the whole time? You supposed to be.

[Mona]

Y' all wouldn't eat flaming hot Cheetos from naked Sweetie. Okay.

[Corey]

No, just the Cheetos is fine.

[Mona]

Please continue, please.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So what happened?

[Joe Button]

So the gentleman in question is. Pardon me if I'm ruining the name Jaden Sancho.

[Corey]

Okay?

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Button]

And he's from one of the biggest soccer clubs in Europe.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And apparently makes. That's.

[Corey]

That's a. That's not a cheap ticket, shorty, ain't.

[Ish]

He's a football player.

[Joe Button]

He's a football player. He makes a whole lot of money. Yes, he makes a whole lot of money. And Sweetie's alleged madam is outing her because she owes her money. Sweetie owes her madam money because she introduced you to this gentleman, took you to the game, made the link bank. She's accusing Sweetie of falling in love with homeboy. Making the subject her boyfriend running off and not paying her madam.

[Corey]

Let me ask, how does that work?

[Ish]

Did she pay the first time and she just ain't pay no more or what?

[Joe Button]

According to the madam, she's only owed money from this person, from this gentleman.

[Corey]

But I mean, is it a one time?

[Ish]

Yeah, that's one thing.

[Joe Button]

The madam is making it sound like they. They have done this quite a bit. And she's saying, if you don't pay me my money, then we're gonna have some real discussions on this timeline about all the business I've brought your way and how you've been the quote unquote girlfriend for so many of the celebrities that I've introduced you to the Madden business. We should explain that for the people out there. Cause it's people that have no idea what we talking about. Cause we're all dirty rotten scandals. Whoa, whoa. Can somebody explain the Madden business? I think there's no one better to.

[Corey]

Do it than you.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's your bag. I'm not your bag. You got have a PhD.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Paying H D. Thank you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's your man.

[Joe Button]

That's your man.

[Corey]

That was crazy.

[Ish]

That was nasty. That was.

[Joe Button]

That wasn't about either 40. We good, yo. We good. My. We good. Somebody writing your pod bars too? You came. That's off the dome. You came up with that? Yo, that's. I'll circle back. Mona, explain to the people what a madam is.

[Mona]

A madam is a. A female pimp, like less violent. She just do the little hookups. Who was the famous madam that went to jail in 19 fl? You get into her story and check it out. But that's really all it is. And to answer your question, I would assume that it was for the initial hookup up because of like this. They know that kind of stuff is common. But the way she. When she was out in her. She kept saying, I made those connections for you. So I'm assuming just connecting to the guy, you know.

[Joe Button]

So sweeties madam says, and I'm just reading this, let's try to keep up together. She says, cocaine, witchcraft and liquor is one hell of a mix.

[Corey]

Sure is.

[Joe Button]

Send me my bread, home wrecker at sweet. I tried to be nice. Nice don't get you nowhere. She didn't post another video and says, hey sweetie, I see you playing Internet games on Beyonce's Internet child. Let me know how you wanna play this. I'm either going to receive my money from you, or I can start addressing some of them rumors with mz. We spent almost a month in Africa. You should know I wasn't gonna let you play me out of some money when and dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.

[Mona]

Oh, you were supposed to drag out child, but go ahead.

[Joe Button]

I did my best.

[Mona]

I mean, I'm sorry. It's important to the conversation.

[Joe Button]

Y' all know what we say about them African troops and them African doo.

[Mona]

Doo on your chest? Is that what y' all say? Because that's what the is going on.

[Joe Button]

She continues, I'll tell a joke, but I ain't never told a Lie. I sent you to Dubai because you never bawled before and was depressed, looking for a happy life. Took you to London, babes. Took you to Nigeria, booked you on an Australian tour. I helped this girl so much only for her to play with my money. At the end, I'm just missing my money from London. Pay up, cokehead. For I start naming the necks of the husbands the rest of the husbands that you was playing with with. She continues, Please, I want to make one thing clear. I booked her for an appearance to visit the Chelsea stadium and support the soccer team. As my last post shows, instead of paying me, she fell in love with the client and told him not to pay me. I've been there, been there, been there. I was a road manager with her, getting her deal. By road manager, she means madam. I was solid to this girl. She got what she wanted and never paid me. Simple. I want my money. Then she posts some screenshots of text messages. I don't need to read these. I think y' all get the gist of what's happening here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is crazy.

[Mona]

This shit more common than you think of.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, this is super common.

[Mona]

I don't want to say the other shit that they travel around with the girls getting them all drunk, selling that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think you did.

[Ish]

Yeah, I think you just said it. You kind of said.

[Mona]

I didn't say the name. Oh, no, I just said they go around city to city, wrestling with each other and getting drunk, and they sell when they. In some of these cities, it's common. It's a common thing you got on the Internet with these big Internet Personas. All it is is people that want to them down to the smallest on the totem pole, send you $75 on cash app for a picture of your feet. DM me or hi. And somebody can rent you for the night. You got all this. I mean, and then it's like, when.

[Joe Button]

You think about DM us. I got a pedicure. I got a pedicure, too. All right, all right, 75.

[Mona]

Make sure you grease them up, Joe.

[Ish]

Put some feet anyway, so when them start hitting.

[Mona]

When you think about Saweetie, right? When she. When she's giving this lifestyle where. Where she's doing music, she got this team, she got a label, she got whatever. And nobody really listens to that. You kind of like, where's the money coming from for her to keep the lifestyle up? You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And this is the.

[Mona]

Is she single? Because that's the thing, you understand?

[Ish]

That could be any of these shorties from around here.

[Mona]

But we talking about.

[Ish]

Sweetie, I know. I'm just saying you got $5,000 a month rent, you got two kids, you got a bins. And you do and you.

[Corey]

I see.

[Ish]

No, and then you'd be like, yo, yeah, I work at the physical therapy office. You like you giving some physical therapy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right, wait, hold on. I got a question. So how much money are we talking? But hypothetically, if this is true, how much money will we be talking about? Like, for like, how much would somebody have to pay to catch up with somebody like Saweetie for the night?

[Mona]

A lot.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like, what's the number? I don't have a. I have no idea.

[Corey]

I would like to know.

[Joe Button]

Joe. Joe. I think it depends if you're asked. Dr. Button, if you're asked, asking me. Well, for my answers, I don't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Good answer.

[Ish]

Give.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Give us yo who ain't never been here before. They like. Yeah, y' all cool.

[Ish]

Y. Give us a ballpark of what you gauge or you think it would be.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I'm not the man. I'm expert.

[Corey]

Yes, you are.

[Mona]

And it depends because get the hired. Y.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't trying to be down with you.

[Joe Button]

You. You not girl. Actually, I'm trying to get some information. They best friends is madams. This is me. Stop. Yo, I know the same madams.

[Ish]

Y. I know, but I never stop. I know some stop though. I never don't do that was a patron.

[Joe Button]

Hey, we got him from the same place. Yeah, we bought our dope from the same place, Papa.

[Mona]

That's crazy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The he's is, cuz.

[Joe Button]

I'm tired of them coming to work and putting everything on me and then they hide by and we bought our sneakers from the same Foot Locker, buddy.

[Ish]

I got my sneakers for freedom.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Joe. I had sneakers. As did I.

[Ish]

No, I had the same sneakers. I just didn't buy them.

[Joe Button]

As did I. I didn't buy those sneakers.

[Mona]

I want to answer your question before Joe answers. I. That's. It varies because the m. The madam is the middleman. Right? Right. So the trick is the vic. So if the trick is a construction manager, you coming at him for one thing. Joe Button, you coming at him for something else. Soccer.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, but if it's sweetie.

[Joe Button]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't. Not all the time is the client the vic.

[Mona]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Why the client?

[Ish]

The.

[Joe Button]

The madam and her relationships matter. So she comes sometimes like this. Reads like madam had a relationship with. With the dude.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They do.

[Ish]

No, they do and dude know to go to her to get so sometimes.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna call the sex worker the vic because everybody is agreeing. But sometimes the play is ran on the sex worker. You coming? My relationship is with this person. I'm running girls to this person all year round. I'm getting money from him.

[Ish]

Yeah, he the norm.

[Joe Button]

So it's not always he's the vic is all I'm saying. In this instance, homeboy don't sound like he was the vic.

[Ish]

No, homeboy sounds like he's super rich. Whoever is in your.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's if it's true.

[Ish]

But not for nothing, the madams have a stable. I don't know how to name it. Something else I don't want to put women in.

[Mona]

That's what they say.

[Ish]

You can say that.

[Mona]

What are we talking about?

[Ish]

You can say can't say that.

[Joe Button]

Y' all could say that.

[Ish]

Listen what I'm saying, ladies of the sex workers, the madams might have a stable. So the newest person in the stable, Prince blah, blah blah from Wales, knows you, has a relationship with you and seeing you with your new work. And here we are.

[Corey]

Expert.

[Mona]

And I want to be clear about something. I want to be clear about something real fast. I don't. I don't see anything wrong with sex work. I'm. Somebody thinks sex work should be.

[Joe Button]

I think it should be legal, but.

[Mona]

It'S a name for it. And where I'm from and it's halls.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That'S what we call.

[Mona]

I mean, I. I don't. You know what I mean? It's male, female, whatever. But, you know, here at the Joke Bun podcast, we support sex work.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's right. It's just labor. But how much do y. I mean, I'm. I'm. Maybe it's the wrong question.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

To answer your question, I think it's a sl. I don't think that somebody could purchase. I don't think a night of entertainment from Sweetie. Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

I don't think that that's the normal flow of the business.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's why I'm confused.

[Joe Button]

That's why I understand.

[Ish]

Why do you think that it's a date?

[Corey]

What they got to be somebody.

[Joe Button]

I think. Think it's a high because the higher the clientele. So I hear exclusive. It's not really a one off type. It's not a one off type of thing.

[Mona]

Y' all hanging out.

[Joe Button]

But yeah, y'. All.

[Mona]

It's not just leave.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You here for. I'm. I'm booking you for a few weeks. A weekend, a month.

[Ish]

A weekend A week.

[Joe Button]

Whatever the case, we running around for a little while like. Like girlfriend. I mean, if you. However you want to interpret it. However we gonna run around, I'm gonna shop. We gonna hit the clubs. It's gonna be bottles. There'll be secrecy. You'll bring other girls. We're gonna have a time.

[Mona]

Sign me up.

[Ish]

No, but what if. What if said client is married? You might only get a weekend, and then that weekend we gonna live it up. For the weekend, you're gonna do what you're doing. You and your girl. Bring one girl or two girls, y', all. Everything is on them. But I don't know if it. It's not a one off. It could be a one off depending on how much money the got. Be clear, like the client dictates the terms. You don't dictate the terms. So if I got enough money, I'm dictating it. I might got 250 for you for the night.

[Joe Button]

At this level, it's not. Normally the client wants one night with this person, though.

[Corey]

And also we're talking about. We're talking about two people with some. With some clout in the game.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The football player in London then didn't. Didn't look at Sweetie and say, let me get her for a night. That didn't happen. Which is how they were around each other enough to even. For her to even get his boyfriend off.

[Ish]

No, that's a possibility. I'm just saying we. We just took it off.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All of it happens.

[Joe Button]

Yes, all of it happens. No need for the back and forth.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All of it happened.

[Joe Button]

I'm just talking about in this specific case because we talking about Sweetie. I don't think it's one off time.

[Ish]

For her to have fell in love with the. They had to be spending some time.

[Joe Button]

Sweetie done been with. She done.

[Ish]

And it sound like Joe. Yo dude know the game. He got the relationship with the madam. Yes. She fall for him and say yo don't pay her.

[Joe Button]

That's why would she want to do.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Why?

[Ish]

Because. Because I'm in love with you now.

[Joe Button]

I'm.

[Ish]

I'm.

[Mona]

The ultimate goal is always to marry the and beat their living sunset.

[Ish]

But I still want.

[Mona]

That happens. People marry their all the time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I get that. But I'm saying why. Why would Sweetie not want him just pay her?

[Ish]

True. Why would that.

[Mona]

I don't want you to talk to this at all. I don't. I don't want you to talk to this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He already know to play. He Knows the play. He pay.

[Ish]

That's why you got school.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm asking.

[Ish]

He's right. He's right.

[Joe Button]

The man. It's always the madams play.

[Ish]

He's right.

[Joe Button]

We don't know that dude knows the play.

[Mona]

That is true.

[Joe Button]

All we know is that they eventually got in a relationship.

[Ish]

He's right. He's right. Monica, bring Sharon around, sweetie.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Sharon don't know. I mean the. The dude don't know that. That.

[Joe Button]

That I brought shorty around.

[Ish]

I put Sharon. He thinks Sharon is genuinely interested in him and they just haphazardly met and that's not the thing.

[Joe Button]

Yo pay her. She linked me to you. I wouldn't even been here without you. There wouldn't be no love.

[Ish]

She can't.

[Joe Button]

She can't say that.

[Mona]

And that's confirmation of her nasty past. So she can't play good girl. She been all summer.

[Joe Button]

Exactly. That would. That would ruin.

[Ish]

This is your normal.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So in that circumstance. Dude isn't a client then.

[Ish]

Yes, he is.

[Joe Button]

He's still a client. It's just about what he knows and what he don't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He just don't know that she was one of. If he already got a relationship with the madam, he already. He's already paying her for.

[Mona]

Wait, Mark really never bought no pussy.

[Joe Button]

We don't know that part. We just throwing in there. All we know is the madam made the connect. We don't know if the madam is fly with him.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what she's saying though, isn't it?

[Joe Button]

No, she didn't say that. I'm saying that I think they had a private relationship.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I thought the madam would say that.

[Joe Button]

She never said that. All she said was I made the connection neck you owe me money. Give me my money before I tell the rest of the business.

[Ish]

So it could be. It could be like this. You might have been milking this. You might have got a Birkin out the. You might have got a rolly out the. You might have got a kick 50 grand out the. If you got all of that stuff out the. Then you owe me a kickback.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And I get all that. I thought what I heard the madam saying was you telling him not to and you telling him not to pay me. So I thought that was her peoples and the only reason is because she jumped in the middle and said don't pay him. That's what I thought was happening.

[Ish]

It could be that.

[Joe Button]

I think that Saweetie just debted her some type of way.

[Mona]

She cut her water off.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, she didn't have to necessarily let him know why she was being deaded. But this girl is dead.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. That just seemed like such a bad idea.

[Ish]

Or she might. She might have talked to dude and was like, yo, she owed me X amount of bread. Not for what. And then he could. Cause he. I'm fucking with you. I got you. And you think that relationship about the last. Watch this. Cause now the nigga gonna read what's going on now. Oh, word. That's what she was doing with me. I thought we had some genuine going on.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, that was my other question for y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If. If the madam is going public like this, even if she's right for doesn't this up her own business. I know a lot of people will go back.

[Ish]

It's gonna increase it if it's advertisement.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm just saying, knowing that you're willing to go public, does that make anybody who's trying to be discreet less willing to go to. No.

[Ish]

No, that means pay your money.

[Joe Button]

No, that means everybody else to is trying entertainer.

[Corey]

True.

[Joe Button]

She ain't went.

[Ish]

We ain't never heard from her about nobody else before.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Ish]

We don't know what her statement is.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now we know who she is, anybody sitting next to her.

[Joe Button]

People in this underworld, we talking about the. The. The bet it functions best when everybody's paid, right? It functions best when everybody got what they wanted. That's a fact. If somebody starts trying to bust a move, then all that covert goes out the window. And now. Now more lives are jeopardized than the one that you intend.

[Ish]

It fucks up the order.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you fuck up the whole eco system if you do.

[Mona]

And that's why she's bringing up husbands. Because it's like everything can go the down if it come. Because if you think about it, that's her only mitigating factor. So if Sweetie don't have and she ain't got her no type of contract, it's street. All I can do is tell everybody who you. So it's a hard time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That feels like rat to me. I guess that's why I'm.

[Mona]

It is. But that's all she has. Like this.

[Ish]

This recourse.

[Mona]

She got this man ran this play a thousand times already. It's not the first time she had to run something like this and expose something like that. I just. The only. The thing about it is this whole thing would have went perfect. And it could have ended up with Sweetie, with this guy and all the, you know, streets. Just think she bagged another great guy and all that. If she Just would have paid. You're a crumb for not paying her. Give her what the. You owe her.

[Ish]

If you all agree. If y' all agreed on.

[Joe Button]

Respectfully, I don't think the streets are looking at Sweetie like you bagged another great guy.

[Ish]

Not. That's not true.

[Mona]

Why? What do you mean?

[Ish]

If she found up. If she popped up with Joe Blow, the soccer player that makes $400 million a year, and I just so happened to be in London with my homegirl and he bagged me. It's. Oh, damn. Sweetie bagged another one.

[Mona]

Exactly.

[Ish]

If they don't know the terms, the.

[Joe Button]

Streets are not saying that. It's fans saying that. I think the word is out on Sweetie.

[Ish]

Before this.

[Joe Button]

There's been too many rumors. Yes, before. You want to address the rumors before this? I don't want to be that messy.

[Ish]

There's been rumors, Sweetie, but that might be you in the know. You might be in the know. Rumors.

[Mona]

I know.

[Joe Button]

I've been. They didn't know. Keke Palmer just asked Offset if he.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Stop, man. That's the rumor. That's the rumor.

[Mona]

Joe, let me ask you this. I do want to go talk about the rumors because the rumor that I know is, dog.

[Joe Button]

There was rumors when YG and Sweetie separated when he said what he was saying. Right? Stop making me go down the list. I'm telling you that the streets have their own Carfax on Sweetie. Fans may be saying she's beautiful and she bagged another one. One. The industry, I think is saying something different about Sweden.

[Ish]

But that's possible because they in the know, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And even if you say streets.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But.

[Mona]

And even if they do, she has the babies.

[Joe Button]

You don't mean the industry.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Street, I give you saying. Yeah, regular people.

[Joe Button]

Industry.

[Mona]

Even if the streets call her low down dirty. Once she had that fifty thousand dollar baby shower with the firework ginger gender reveal.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nobody gives a little baby.

[Mona]

Everybody happy for her. Then that's just how it goes.

[Joe Button]

Go.

[Mona]

Everybody look at what they have. And wife whores. It's a fact. People love whores. They love them.

[Ish]

You go overseas and vanish. Come back with an accent like their.

[Mona]

Wives and their girlfriends. They love them. Never forget I told you, pay the madam.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Pay the madam.

[Ish]

Pay the madam.

[Joe Button]

Pay the plug. Pay.

[Ish]

Pay what you owe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Everybody.

[Mona]

Next they gonna be jumping you. Sweetie in the club, man, you know you can't fight.

[Joe Button]

That's corny. That's. That's corny. Listen, and I don't want to drag this Some of these madams are good people with good hearts. Some of these madams.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is crazy. Yeah.

[Mona]

Dissertation about your love for madams in the game.

[Joe Button]

I don't love madam. I never needed a man. I never needed a man.

[Mona]

I've always wanted. Just to be clear, I used to want to have a Winnebago and travel around the country with women in the system and having sex with people.

[Joe Button]

I've been friends.

[Corey]

Winnebago, huh?

[Mona]

Yeah. And. But then do like a little reality TV vibe and with it. Yeah.

[Ish]

So basically Taz Angels.

[Mona]

Somebody stole my idea. There you go.

[Joe Button]

I've been friends with madams.

[Ish]

Allegedly. No, no, no. I'm talking about the. Should I say.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, that part.

[Ish]

Allegedly.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I've been friends with madam. What I'm saying about the madams is some of them could see that you got work. You fell in love with a client. You hurt yourself, you fell off the bike. Now you home, sad, depressed. So some of the man. Like she said, yo, you was home, sad, depressed, tummy ache, balled up. You wouldn't leave the house for months, bitch.

[Mona]

Yeah, she sound a little.

[Joe Button]

That was out of my good heart and good fortune that I've called you. You put you with him. I don't even play like that.

[Ish]

No. I might come drop 20 on you and you just got to work it off.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You might not have no rent money after this abandoned you. So, dog, we got.

[Joe Button]

It's so for chicks to turn around and once you. Once you get the. And fall in love. And now you playing house. Now you playing boyfriend and girlfriend to not pay the madam. I think that's shady.

[Mona]

I got one question.

[Joe Button]

I think that's nasty.

[Mona]

I got one question, mister. What did she mean when she said she referenced having her on tour in Australia? Was that that music girl I just did? Was she on tour chasing a. Or what? Okay, even I get that part. Mark, don't do that. Cuz you was lost. You had me nervous.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I told you.

[Mona]

I. I really believed you when you said you ain't buying. No.

[Joe Button]

Are they not selling in Philly? Like, why are both of y' all.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like what I never needed to.

[Joe Button]

Joe.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And Joe's the expert, actually. And I can tell y' all they're selling whiskey in Philadelphia. Yeah. And Dr. Taking a Uber to Jersey sometime.

[Ish]

Some selling in college.

[Mona]

Love Philly girls. Y' all know that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mona]

That was never heard any of it. That's the first time I seen you smile today, Corey.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Does this affect. I know Parks ice. I know you guys are big Sweetie music fans.

[Ish]

Oh, no, no.

[Mona]

Y' all.

[Joe Button]

Really.

[Ish]

I love her music on mute. I like.

[Mona]

Oh, y' all like the way she look? Like I said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

Huge fan.

[Ish]

Huge, huge fan.

[Mona]

I almost feel bad. That won't work. I don't know what it is. Why is it. Why doesn't the music work?

[Corey]

You know, I just don't know.

[Mona]

I mean, she cute.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Don't give a About that. Make music as a musician.

[Joe Button]

I'm just curious.

[Mona]

As a musician, as both of your musicians. I'm being curious. Yeah, yeah. I'm just curious, like, because I'm somebody that. I watch Sweetie and I just assumed at some point if she was consistent, something. But nothing really works. And she's followed the trends where she talking that gimme that money, you know, slick girl talk, the cute, poppy shit. That's more for her. Cause I think that really was what would work for her. But in y' all opinions as musicians, what is it? Cause she got the look.

[Corey]

She does have the look.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's as far as parts got.

[Mona]

I mean, she's got.

[Corey]

I've never done a deep analysis on the Sweetie music to figure out why it's not connecting, to be honest with you. I'll try, though. I'll try.

[Ish]

Go watch it. Watch the videos. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

For me, I don't. I don't put. I don't put Sweetie in the musician bag. One, two. That female market became increasingly more difficult to operate in quick, too. So the real fast, the formula, the sweetest, formulaic, right? Like, I get the old slap from Petey Pablo or somebody. I shake some ass or talk about some rich nigga, rich girl, rich nigga, eight figure, whatever. And then like this.

[Corey]

That's always a slap.

[Mona]

That was the one that was like.

[Ish]

The one that would work also.

[Joe Button]

I don't think Sweetie's trying to put an album out. If you're asking me, like, I think this Sweetie is weird now.

[Corey]

Like a album, video, like a visual album would be.

[Joe Button]

Be.

[Corey]

That'd be crazy.

[Joe Button]

Hear me out.

[Ish]

Like a street is watching type joint. The whole joint.

[Corey]

I'm Sweetie doing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I like Sweetie. And I think that. I think that. I think that she has a career if she gets it together, seems to have one. The game is also the game. Yeah, the game is the game. I don't have the game changing anytime soon either.

[Ish]

The game don't.

[Joe Button]

What say y'? All?

[Ish]

Which. Which?

[Joe Button]

Game on, man. Game. The game we talking about.

[Ish]

Game don't change. You talking about different games. P Cur.

[Joe Button]

We Talking about the same exact game.

[Ish]

Which one you talking about?

[Joe Button]

You. You know the game. The first and the last. The last should be first. Oh, well, I don't have that game changing. She ain't the only one.

[Ish]

No, she allegedly. No, true. No, she ain't.

[Joe Button]

They selling out there only when you have these talks with like the nine to five people is when some shocking a is. Oh my God. Really? The that don't have to go to work on Thursday. They know they selling out there. They selling out there.

[Corey]

It don't take too much.

[Mona]

Name another female rapper that's selling.

[Corey]

We're not going to do that.

[Mona]

Why I want to know?

[Joe Button]

Cuz we're. Cuz we have respect for.

[Corey]

We're gentlemen. This is a gentleman's podcast.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I bet if we all say.

[Mona]

Came on, I bet we all come.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Up with the same name.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think we. I think we would share at least two names I could think of that we would probably all agree on.

[Ish]

I think we all say the same name first.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mona]

Damn. I want to know.

[Corey]

I mean this is like some blanket. Are they super fine and like have all the most expensive on the entire world and don't really have any particular hits?

[Mona]

They're not making no money on music.

[Corey]

Yeah, there's. Come on.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They could have investments and that's not.

[Joe Button]

And that's like the ones that's not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Making any money on music.

[Mona]

They into that bitcoin they got got.

[Corey]

Into the Roth IRA is really booming.

[Mona]

Yes, they got that. Got it. You know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. They got a ripple in the 90s when your career was doing too good, assumed you had you was not selling, but you was doing some things with it. Doing some things with it. Yeah.

[Ish]

To get to where you was at, which is a form of selling it.

[Joe Button]

Wait till I come back. Wait till I'm resurrected.

[Ish]

Watch.

[Joe Button]

I'm just throw these out to sell some.

[Mona]

I think. I think when it comes to like.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You want come back as a woman.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you goddamn right. You goddamn right.

[Mona]

I think when it comes to using.

[Ish]

They got the game.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, they.

[Joe Button]

They doing it like with shit shame and stuff. They're not. They're not prideful in it.

[Corey]

What Take your job seriously, man.

[Joe Button]

What? Oh my God.

[Corey]

Put your heart and soul into it.

[Ish]

And they gonna be Corinne Button.

[Joe Button]

What the is you talking about, bro?

[Ish]

What they doing? What they doing wrong? You said they're not doing it right. What are they doing wrong?

[Joe Button]

They just ashamed.

[Ish]

Oh, standing it.

[Mona]

If you had a. How would you sell yours, huh? If you had A How would you sell yours? No, Shade.

[Joe Button]

I would get a manager. You manage me.

[Mona]

You know, we. Come on.

[Joe Button]

We. You going to be right in that.

[Mona]

Winnebago because he got a mouthpiece. Pause.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Shaggy.

[Joe Button]

Now you went too far. You went too far. You went too far.

[Mona]

My bad.

[Joe Button]

So stupid. I support Sweetie. Good luck in everything you're doing.

[Ish]

We Sweetie ho.

[Corey]

We are for sure.

[Ish]

No, for real.

[Corey]

Since the onset.

[Mona]

Get that lady her money.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Girl so horny. When he start talking about Sweetie. Even read this last 15 minutes.

[Joe Button]

Beat Red, please. Got old work. They went to London and tried to sell some.

[Mona]

I have a question. Piggybacking off of that.

[Joe Button]

They always try to go to a different little place.

[Ish]

They work for a minute.

[Corey]

Yeah, them soccer players right in the soccer stadium.

[Joe Button]

Cause they go out there and start lying to the soccer players. You are not 24. Stop telling that little 19 year old nigga from London you 24.

[Ish]

You're not.

[Joe Button]

Not.

[Mona]

Why not?

[Joe Button]

You don't look 24. You don't sound 24. That don't get 24 like you. That 24.

[Ish]

That do be funny when you see. When they go, they go. Try to do it over here. Because they don't want nobody know in the United States they doing it. But no, they up because they gotta be on the ground. That's it. They gotta be on the gram. And they show they self in the soccer stadium.

[Mona]

You can still run that play. You can still run that play. Nobody. You in Atlanta, move down south. They don't know you.

[Ish]

Yes, they do.

[Joe Button]

They found out.

[Ish]

They know Brooklyn in Atlanta.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Speaking of Atlanta, no one's going to.

[Corey]

Know the album came out if you don't post the picture.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Speaking of Atlanta, we got some bad news. I got some bad news for y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ish]

What's that?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Stud face?

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Has been captured.

[Joe Button]

My man Derek.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

For those who don't know, of the 10 escapees from the New Orleans pack prison, stud face, the last gentleman is a gentleman.

[Ish]

Joe said the nigga looked like a stud in the face.

[Mona]

I called him a zyk.

[Joe Button]

Wait, what's a zyke?

[Ish]

Wait, where did Z come from?

[Mona]

Because if you say dyke with a Z, it's not homophobic. I talk to him.

[Joe Button]

Philly come up with some wild.

[Mona]

We locked in. Ask him.

[Corey]

I guess I will.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He was caught in Atlanta. Looked like a peaceful capture. He was wearing his Nike socks, chilling in somebody's crib. They found him. I don't know about y'. All. I was actually disappointed that he was caught. I'd be rooting for the escapees all the time.

[Corey]

What was he in jail for?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know. Probably something. I should probably find that out before I get.

[Ish]

I was gonna ask you to go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Look that up first before you said, oh, really? What was it? Do you know?

[Joe Button]

Murder.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, yeah, I'm good with that, but yeah, you good?

[Joe Button]

Oh, you good with that?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not good with murder. I'm just saying, like, I, I, I.

[Corey]

Depends on the murder.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, I'm just saying, like, if somebody is like, if you told me there was like a, a predator, right, I wouldn't root for them to escape sexual assault. I'm not saying it's the right thing to do with the murder. I'm just saying that's I be rooting for murderers, drug dealers. When people break out of prison in general, unless they do some real heinous shit, I get fucking right Mark.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I be rooting for him.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Am I the only one?

[Mona]

Fuck.

[Corey]

I mean, no. But sometimes I read what the charges are and I'm like, oh, you know what?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's why I don't read the charges.

[Mona]

First of all, how often are black people in the jail for things they didn't do? Number one, I want you to escape. What the. Even if you are a criminal and you have broken the law and you have broken laws, if the crime that you have in front of you, you're not guilty, you're not guilty. But we do jail time for that kind of all the time.

[Ish]

He was in prison for a double murder committed during a 2018 Marty Gr. Celebration. Marty Gr.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sh.

[Corey]

Up the party, up the vibe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

How many hurricanes did he have? I mean, happens.

[Mona]

Let me see the party.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Don't judge me.

[Joe Button]

Is, yeah, we gotta clean the streets. We gotta clean the streets.

[Mona]

What? It was too much.

[Joe Button]

Sorry. I'm not, I'm not rooting for you. Shot up Marty Gr.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did he really shoot? Did he shoot up? He shot up Marty G. If he.

[Ish]

Shot up Marty Gr. If he, I don't know if it's.

[Corey]

A legend he went to jail for it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Anymore.

[Ish]

Somebody's brother, somebody's family member, you sitting here saying no, that be right.

[Mona]

I thought you were going to finish. Finished, like reading the rest of what he was arrested for. Like, what did he plead out to? Like, yeah, I want to know. Yeah, we do need to know.

[Ish]

Just as he was convicted in October 2024 on second degree murder charges. Second ago, multiple charges of attempted murder for those killings.

[Mona]

Oh, did he have a co defendant?

[Joe Button]

That's all I got. I was just saying, Mona, you Want to know his gofundme?

[Mona]

Y' all do this. Y' all debate down to the socks, too. I wanted to do it for Derek. Free Derek, man. That's where I'm at.

[Joe Button]

He was free.

[Ish]

He got free.

[Mona]

Well, now I'm yelling, free Derek. Now you in jail.

[Ish]

That ain't even did none of the time.

[Mona]

All right.

[Ish]

He just got locked up at October 24th.

[Mona]

Yeah, that's right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

October 24th.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to commend. I'm going to commend him.

[Mona]

That's when he's convicted. He could have sat in the county for years is. We don't know.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to commend him for being free for as long as he was.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Free over 100 days.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He was still the last. Last one standing.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

The fun part about this story is the rumors.

[Mona]

Yeah, what's the rumors?

[Joe Button]

The rumor is that he had a lady he was shacking up with. He had a girlfriend.

[Mona]

Smooth.

[Ish]

How much?

[Joe Button]

They offered. And she was in Atlanta. They had a fight, and then they had an argument.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

In the morning.

[Ish]

And then next thing you know.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

And then the police came.

[Mona]

Yo, that is.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now, that's. I did some research. I don't believe that's true, but it is a great story.

[Joe Button]

Why don't you believe it?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Because the one that I read, the.

[Joe Button]

One you read, I don't believe. The one from the sheriff that you posted, I don't believe that at all.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay. That one I know is not true.

[Joe Button]

I don't believe that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Initially, they were trying to say that the woman who worked in the sheriff's office was the one who reported him, but we. I sort of. I did the research on that, and that's. That's disproven because she was arrested in June herself and given a $2.5 million bail. So she wasn't with him. She just wasn't there. But to say he found a new girlfriend while on the run and they got into a fight that I can't verify. Not verify, but that'd be a hell of a thing. The bail and the reward was 20,000.

[Mona]

But that's the thing about those fucking rewards. You have to do things a very specific way. The case has to go a very specific way for them to actually pay you, for the most part. People don't even be getting that fucking reward money. That's why you shouldn't turn niggas in. Stay on my personal. This is how I know. Because it was something going on locally and it was some type of prize. And the person, I mean.

[Joe Button]

I'm sorry.

[Mona]

You gotta go fast around here, but it was a reward, right? And the guy didn't get it in a little different than normal. He really went around telling everybody like, what the. They burned me. And then the sheriff from whatever that local area. Because it wasn't even like a tri state thing. It just happened. It was on the news. And then the sheriff was breaking down all the way, all the read like what has to happen for you to get it. And it's when you get on TV and you say, help me find him. We're gonna give you this money. Of course, people think I give it to him and that's it. They're not gonna think he has to be. The person has to be convicted. If you. That's just like, if it's a reward on people that are, that are. That are on the run and they haven't been convicted yet. Yes, they have to be convicted to get the reward money.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's fucked up.

[Mona]

You don't even get the cash out till the end of the case.

[Ish]

That shit is money that killed the CEO, dude. Cuz it was a reward in McDonald's.

[Mona]

And it was like, yeah, I heard something like that.

[Ish]

Yeah, they tried to dispel good for your rat ass. Keep hipping flies.

[Mona]

I heard something like that.

[Ish]

Drop them nuggets, you rat bastard. But this is the thing.

[Mona]

This is the thing they do that. They do that because you got to think you talking about 10,000, $20,000 rewards on people that have allegedly un. Alive people or several people. So the reward don't even match what the crime is. Right? But they know if the person is, you know, from the hood, in the ghetto or whatever, that number, that big number that'll make your brother or your cousin sometimes flip on you. They know what they doing, but they don't have no interest in actually paying you. In fact, they won't even protect you after when the neighborhood or family people turn on you because they know you the one that came up. Because if Mookie is in the basement, and this ain't left the basement at all, we know one of y' all in here told to get him in. You know what I mean? For them to run up in here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You got a new car too.

[Corey]

Months.

[Mona]

You. I. No, because what I'm stating is that they never get paid. Get the money, do not get paid.

[Ish]

Pay that up, expecting whatever. And now you still right here.

[Mona]

Don't even protect you. Wow. Cuz you think if it take two years for the case. Take a year for the case. You should have some kind of protection. Correct.

[Ish]

You better take that whole 20,000.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You ain't getting it.

[Ish]

I'm saying, even if you did get.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It, what the 20,000 going to buy you?

[Mona]

I'm with you in the way because it's right. But I'm just saying in general.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And you fucked up with that. Cause you judging me for rooting for. For the dude that broke out. But the person, the good citizen that reports that crazy murder that we should be protected from, you call him a rat.

[Ish]

They say this niggas that's attached to you. If you my cousin, nigga, don't rat on me.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So your cousin shot up Marty Gr. Anyway.

[Ish]

You talking about.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So. So another thing.

[Ish]

Y' all have family and friends that have committed crimes. I'm not turning them in.

[Mona]

Boy, you talking about we on that. Yeah, yeah. You talking about we can't kill people. But you. We. We could tell. We can't tell, but we can kill people.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right. Exactly.

[Mona]

Jersey Mark said that you put your nose. Yep. Your little ring nose in the air because we were saying free a killer. And you over there like, never rat.

[Joe Button]

Never will, never ran, whatever.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Meanwhile, the dude just shot up Marty Gr. In your basement.

[Mona]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And I'm feeding them to too.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wow. That was crazy.

[Joe Button]

That was wild.

[Mona]

Let me ask all three of y' all questions. If you ran into Derek right in the street and he said if you just ran into him street, what would your reaction be? To ignore him. Give him $20. Like, what would your. If you see him in the gas station. Honestly, what would y' all do? Ice, what are you doing?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ice? Speed dial. Getting my.

[Ish]

Getting my. Getting my direct deposit numbers ready.

[Joe Button]

What would you do?

[Mona]

Seriously, I want to know. Who would you do?

[Joe Button]

Be careful.

[Mona]

Huh? You just give him a nice word.

[Ish]

Yeah, be careful.

[Mona]

What about you?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't saying.

[Ish]

I'm keeping a bug. Motive. If he didn't kill two people and all that other. Like he was just out here because he was selling some skag or something. Yeah, I get a something.

[Joe Button]

I just want to make friends.

[Mona]

Okay, but you definitely giving him a word of advice. Like, bro, keep.

[Ish]

I get a. Some money if he had a non violent crime or something. I get that. Some money.

[Mona]

Nonviolent crime is crazy. Stop.

[Ish]

Let me answer. Let me answer.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

No, no, no. I'm joking. But I would act like I ain't see that.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Ish]

Honestly, that part.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I mind my business.

[Mona]

Parks.

[Joe Button]

What would you do?

[Corey]

Keep walking.

[Mona]

Nothing. I don't even have you would make the phone call.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Would you make the phone call if you knew you would never get identified as the person who did it and you could get, say, 50. No.

[Ish]

No, I wouldn't. I'm not getting involved.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay.

[Mona]

What do y' all think I would do?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Same thing I would do.

[Ish]

Get. Take a picture with him. Hey, stud face, you put that out next year.

[Joe Button]

Like, look, y'. All, look y'. All.

[Mona]

This said wife him. That's crazy. Now, I would definitely. I would give him whatever was in my pocket. Whatever was in my pocket, I would give it to him and I would. I would give him whatever advice, you know, I could kick. I could think of giving words of wisdom to these. Yeah. Keep your head up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Somebody who might need words of wisdom is Tim Westwood.

[Joe Button]

What he did podcast is taking a turn.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Look, we talk about people getting locked up in book.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Corey]

So it's a good. It's not our turns. Position, I guess.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Hey, they got him, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Corey]

Tim Weston from 83 to 2016. He had a long history of what, borrowing?

[Joe Button]

Being grapey?

[Corey]

Yeah. Really?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, he was taking. Yeah, He. He. He was recently charged in. What was the. Sexual assault. I don't know how to.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sexual assault and something else. But, yeah, it was a pretty serious charge. For those that don't know you.

[Mona]

Radio dj.

[Corey]

Dj?

[Joe Button]

You don't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I'd say DJ or any, because I know him now for all his. All his YouTube interviews where he sits there and interviews people off camera.

[Joe Button]

Like, Tim Westwood was the number one radio host slash DJ in London for a lot. Long time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But this generation knows it. For the interviews.

[Ish]

Let me just.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

His charges. He's charged with four counts of rape, nine counts of indecent assault, assault, and two counts of sexual assault. And it. These charges relate to alleged incidents involving seven women occurring between 83 and 1983 and 2016.

[Mona]

Damn. And that's over here in the states?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No.

[Ish]

That'S 33 years.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

So they don't have no statute of limitations. They're criminally charging him for sexual assaults from the 80s.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, okay. That's cool.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know.

[Mona]

I don't think it should be limitations on sexual assault in my personal life.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And I don't know if. Well, I don't know if I agree with that, but.

[Ish]

Yeah, me either.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Just. Just because people. Just because of the evidence. Sometimes if somebody accused you of an assault 50 years ago, it's hard to defend yourself if you don't have access to true.

[Mona]

I only think these you should be allowed because so many people are, you know, they are embarrassed to shame. They don't say anything.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I want to protect the victims as much as possible, but I think all crimes should have some statute of limitations. Just because it's hard to defend yourself from something from 50 years ago in terms of the evidence, it's hard to find something exculpatory.

[Joe Button]

But.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I'm with you. I don't think it should.

[Mona]

Exculpatory. Stop using big words. Talk. Right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Exculpatory. Something that proves you're innocent. Something that, you know, exculpates you.

[Mona]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

From culpability. Right.

[Mona]

Use another one for another one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, I was just saying the ex means to take out culpability. It's like, you know what I'm saying?

[Mona]

Anyway, why n don't like niggas.

[Ish]

I love it.

[Mona]

Hey, like, you going another big word on another big word.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So Tim Westwood has been accused of this industry. People don't seem to be surprised. I mean, even what y' all just said, everybody's kind of like, yeah, that sounds about right.

[Corey]

That's been accused before, and I'm not sure that there was ever a solution.

[Joe Button]

Words been out on Tim west with. Yeah.

[Mona]

I'm thinking about the other creepy guy from the uk and he was doing that for years. I think he's dead now. He. He did like a kid show. Nobody knows.

[Joe Button]

I don't keep up with the UK grapist.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I. I think part of why it was hard for Tim Westwood to be held accountable for. For all these decades is because he's been a kingmaker. He's been. Or not a kingmaker, but he's been a gatekeeper. Gatekeeper. Thank you. That's where I was going. He's been such a gatekeeper. Right? I mean, to get your records played or in the last decade or two, to get big interviews. Like, he's been kind of the person.

[Ish]

From the US Artist, especially US artists.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When they go, he's the person that you talk to. He's the person you go see. So, like, I think that makes people are like, I want to say something, but I don't want to be just like in the United States. I don't want to be outcast. I don't want to be be pushed out of the industry. And so people just stay silent. So I'm glad to hear people coming out and speaking out, and I hope he gets a fair trial in due process, but I'm glad the victims are Speaking up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I totally agree.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Button]

I totally agree.

[Corey]

If he's guilty of it, get him off the streets.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Since I gave y' all some bad news, can I give y' all some good news?

[Joe Button]

There we go. That would be really nice.

[Ish]

Yes, please.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Dolly Parton's not dead.

[Corey]

Yeah, that is true. That is true.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did y' all see on the Internet, everybody was, like, starting their obituaries. The news people hit me up like, yo, Dolly got a few hours left. Write something. And I was like, three years.

[Corey]

I guess her sister went online or something and said, dolly's not doing some show somewhere because she's sick. Pray for her. She is a very religious person, apparently.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, the sister.

[Joe Button]

And she came back a few hours later, like, apparently, I was wrong.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Dolly got her the fuck together.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Because she put out something that made it seem like Dolly was on her deathbed and everybody started giving her prank. You know, black people love Dolly Parton. She's one of the least problematic white people ever in terms of celebrities. Like, she speaks out. She speaks out for the right things. Doesn't say anything about the bad stuff, especially as a country artist. Like, she never got into the. She speaks out against the racist shit. Like, Dolly Parton is like a g. And so people were, like, starting to give their little memorials and stuff, and it turns out she just, like.

[Corey]

She's fine.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She's like a hangnail or some shit.

[Ish]

So you invited to the cookout?

[Joe Button]

You hear that freeze?

[Mona]

No.

[Joe Button]

You hear that freeze?

[Ish]

I'm asking him.

[Mona]

I'm sorry, darling.

[Joe Button]

Parton.

[Ish]

I'm asking what he invited to the.

[Joe Button]

To the cookout.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I didn't say that. I did not say Valley party.

[Joe Button]

She's not invited.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If I were inviting white people to said cookout, she would be at the top of the list.

[Ish]

I don't believe in.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I don't know why I did a cookout, though. I reject the idea to cookout.

[Mona]

I hate that. I hate that.

[Ish]

You hate what, the cookout or inviting white people to the cookout.

[Mona]

I hate that. You hit the nae nae.

[Joe Button]

Well.

[Mona]

And it's a thousand comments of black people saying, oh, you could come, boy. You could come. You can come, too.

[Ish]

Good. I hate that shit.

[Mona]

I think we're too open and inviting to white people. You're never gonna be invited to the golf course, love. You're never gonna be welcome there. So why are we?

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Mona]

I don't get it. I don't like it.

[Joe Button]

It's too easy just to throw in there. The number of black people at golf clubs. And they're growing up. We're there. We're there kind of.

[Mona]

Yeah. On our own.

[Joe Button]

No. And they.

[Mona]

Don't you have to get invited by somebody that's there for a long time or something? On some of them prestigious golf clubs.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

You gotta be able to pay that 250. 3 50.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

Golf clubs on the low end.

[Ish]

I didn't know even if the invite. The invite is probably from the white person.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, it absolutely is from a white person.

[Mona]

I still say what I said.

[Joe Button]

I'm not an expert on the golf.

[Corey]

That's a different white for me. I'm not familiar with it.

[Joe Button]

But they are. They seem to be more accepting of affluent black people.

[Ish]

Yeah. Cause they do a lot of. Never mind.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But anyway, to the cookout point for me. And when we say the cookout, to me, it's about saying that this person is like an honorary black person. I don't think you have to be like that. I think, like, Parks is the perfect example to me. Parks doesn't try to be black. He doesn't perform blackness. He's just Parks. And he's dope and he's cool, and we all love him and he's got relationships and that's it. Right. But it's like black people sometimes take an extra step and we gotta say.

[Joe Button]

Oh, he's black now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know what I mean? Or when a white liberal does some very low bar gesture, like you said, do a certain dance, say, racism is bad in public. I gotta pull a hot sauce out of purse. Yeah. It's like. It's like, we ain't gotta just. Everybody just be yourself and everything is cool. Like, we don't have to do this other thing. Like, this other thing is a thing that I think it's extra.

[Mona]

We're super welcoming.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Too welcoming. And then we get disappointed.

[Mona]

And then we get our feelings hurt.

[Ish]

No, then we get our shit taken.

[Mona]

Yeah. Or they steal it. Yeah.

[Ish]

No, they don't steal it.

[Mona]

We give this to them, I guess.

[Ish]

Hey, please come take this shit.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. So. And the reason this came up today was. Cause of Julia Roberts and Kiefer. Southern England.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Ish]

Jack Bauer.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what's on the board. I don't know the story out there. When y' all was gonna break that.

[Joe Button]

Down for me, why we were sitting. I'm. I'm with y'. All. I typically hate the phrase invited to the cookout. Cause you're just inviting Woody Harrelson to the cookout because you liked white men. Can't jump.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

You just inviting some. It's some low level reason like Mark just said, some low bar reason why you're inviting your favorite white person to the cookout. And the cookout is synonymous with culture and yada yada, yada, yada, yada. Right. However, I recently learned a few things about Julia Roberts and Kiefer Sutherland that has made me change my opinion.

[Corey]

Just that quick.

[Joe Button]

That's made me change my opinion. Listen, I think that white people could be at the cookout. I just don't think all black people should have invite power. That's true. All black people should not be able to just invite people to the cookout.

[Mona]

Happy welcome.

[Ish]

There you go.

[Mona]

Don't bring happy.

[Ish]

All the plus ones, you bring somebody.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I think I'm the only one that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Didn'T know the connection.

[Joe Button]

Here we go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Julia Roberts and Martin Luther King Jr.

[Ish]

So in the 1960s, before Julia was.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Born, her parents ran a theater school in Smyrna Georg. One day the school gets a call and it's Coretta Scott King. And she says, I'm wondering if you allow my kids to attend your school. She was having problems trying to find a school for her children because of.

[Joe Button]

Segregation, discrimination, all the stuff that was.

[Ish]

Taking place during those times.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So Julia's mom says, absolutely, please bring them in.

[Joe Button]

Welcome the Kings with open arms.

[Ish]

And they developed quite the friendship because of the that.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay.

[Ish]

1967, Julia Roberts is born. At the time, her parents weren't doing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The best financially and they actually couldn't afford Julia's birth.

[Joe Button]

So the King stepped up and paid.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

For Julia Roberts entire birth because her parents couldn't afford the hospital bill. And that's a dope story to me.

[Joe Button]

I think it's a dope story as well. It's dope. Y' all don't care.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Mona]

Did y' all know that?

[Ish]

But no, I didn't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wait, but I'm.

[Corey]

I'm confused about that make. Why does that make her dope?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This makes the King's dope.

[Ish]

She got like an honorary. Is what you're saying that he's saying that her family did a service for the King?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

Honorary Kings did a service for their family.

[Corey]

Got it. Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So they even.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Ish]

So they even.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They even. You stay over there. Oh, salute.

[Ish]

See, I. I thought that was to going. Going somewhere else with the rumors. So I thought it was.

[Mona]

You thought it was somebody, baby.

[Ish]

That's why I thought it was about.

[Mona]

This thought Julia Roberts was a king.

[Corey]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

I Thought he was going down there.

[Mona]

He do got them lips, see?

[Ish]

But go ahead, keep us other lips.

[Joe Button]

Got our lips as us getting in trouble again.

[Ish]

That's why I didn't say nothing. I. I thought that's where he was going.

[Mona]

Yeah, that's not what we said.

[Joe Button]

Keer Sutherland, mom. Apparently was an activist that was smuggling books and literature to black schools and children when we weren't allowed to.

[Ish]

Dope as hell. So dope I love that's on your plate, Jane Fonda.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. You can't come to the gate.

[Ish]

You can come to the gate.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You come to the gate, I hand you a plate.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Jane Fonda gave a ton of money to the Black Panther party on a sneak tip.

[Joe Button]

So y' all wouldn't invite these people to the cookout?

[Ish]

Like I said, I would not invite them to the cookout.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mona]

No. For what?

[Ish]

No. What y' all need to come to the cookout for.

[Mona]

Why? What would be the reason? I don't want no raisins in my potato salad.

[Ish]

I'm. No.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Y' all are rough, boy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I love them. Shout out to them. We rewarding people for doing the right thing.

[Joe Button]

You bring them a plate.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I live in a country where black people aren't allowed to read. I'm giving them a why? Because black people should be allowed to read.

[Mona]

Right. Like, you're doing the right thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They're doing the human thing at a moment where people aren't being very human. I get that they're.

[Joe Button]

Well, it's. But that makes it not the right thing. That means they're not doing the right thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They're going against the norm and they're doing the thing that. But I'm saying we all should be doing that. Celebrate them. Reward them.

[Joe Button]

Love them.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hug them. Look out for them. Do the shit like King did. All good. I'm just saying that don't make the cookout is a metaphor for almost like saying, like, you're one of us now. And I'm just saying we don't have.

[Mona]

To do that part or you're inside with us.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. You're not an insider. You're a great ally.

[Mona]

Nothing you can do.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mona]

It's nothing you can do.

[Joe Button]

You're not one of us because we invited you to an event.

[Ish]

But that's what it's the metaphor saying, like, we accept you as us because.

[Mona]

There isn't some huge ass cookout now.

[Ish]

You out here up the electric slide. No, bro.

[Mona]

Like, it's not a big ass cookout that we really having. And it's a gate. We're like, no, Becky, you can't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's right. It's about. It's about saying you're one of us now. Because the problem is, a lot of times you let people in the cookout and they get comfortable and they start doing shit.

[Mona]

Now you up making dances and shit, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Changing the place, grabbing the ox.

[Mona]

Sit the fuck down.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Go grab the ox. You know what I mean? And I see that happen where people start getting a little too comfortable. They start using language like a couple drinks.

[Mona]

Now you rapping. The bar is just set low in that realm to do the right thing. So when it comes off like a white person is doing the right thing, it's just like, oh, you gotta reward them acceptance. When in reality, it's just the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do. You should be. You should feel away. When you see people being harmed and abused and put down and held down, you should think it's something wrong with it. That's why a lot of people say. A lot of people say right now, 20, 25, if a white person don't have a little bit of white man guilt, then.

[Joe Button]

If you were sneaking books to black kids when we wasn't allowed to have them, then I'm sneaking you in the cookout.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And. And against. And against your potential friend group, your family, putting your life very dope. We saying that. That's. We're not knocking it again.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You can get a plate.

[Ish]

I think we make that.

[Joe Button]

I think we make it in the car. I'm bringing the plate to the car. The car. They're gonna be in my car.

[Mona]

And you ain't coming back. Coming back now. Now you can't come.

[Joe Button]

Some of y' all just want to bring the white y' all to the cookout. No, I'm bringing the girl that was.

[Mona]

Bringing some books and the one you was.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, both of them. Hypothetical little white crew I'm coming with.

[Mona]

He got his own little white squad of white.

[Joe Button]

No, that would be dope. Not this couch. That's not me. Let's see. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else? Speaking of creating your own cookouts.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Charlie Kirk's wife and the rest of Turning Point America. In response to Bad Bunny super bowl performance tournaments they have, they're. They are going to create their own Super Bowl.

[Corey]

That was their main selling point. That I read.

[Joe Button]

In English.

[Corey]

In English, yeah.

[Mona]

White only good for them.

[Corey]

I feel bad. Like, I feel like we're almost advertising for them. Them like, that's about to be trash.

[Ish]

Why are we don't do that over there. The people that give a. Y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ish]

All y' all go over there so we identify y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mona]

Why is his name still in the news? Like, can we get past that? Like, it feels like he's haunting me. Yeah, Literally.

[Ish]

Hey, look, I'd rather that. I'm gonna keep it. I would rather that than y' all go do something. Try to go do some at the Super Bowl. Not saying you can get it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They both might happen.

[Ish]

I would rather that, though, go over there and celebrate with your people. Do your way the over.

[Corey]

Get Creed. Creed will come over there.

[Ish]

Yeah, whatever. Go over there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Salute.

[Corey]

Have a blast.

[Ish]

Have a blast. We're gonna be watching this.

[Mona]

There's no way way you do. You take part in something like that. You click it, you buy it, you rent it. Whatever you got to do to be. To enjoy that. And you don't, like, feel a little racist? That's crazy. A separate Super Bowl.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's that?

[Mona]

You and your family.

[Joe Button]

They said they want their super bowl to focus more on family, American values, American history, Christianity. White bunny.

[Ish]

American code word for white.

[Joe Button]

For Kid Rock could be performing, right?

[Corey]

Kid. Kid Rock and Creed. Yo, bad boy.

[Ish]

Want to make a safe place to get our racist racism off.

[Joe Button]

I don't do that to Creed. Scott's my man. Oh, man.

[Mona]

They keep.

[Corey]

They keep trying to put Creed in. They tried. Last year, they tried to vote them in with, like, a petition, and this year, they're doing the same. For some reason.

[Joe Button]

I don't think the lead singer of Creed is with none of that.

[Corey]

I don't know if they I a.

[Joe Button]

Spoke to him in a while, but I don't think he with none of that. That Kid Rock is on.

[Mona]

Yeah, Rock is another Kid Rock damn near in the clan.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

For real. And this idea of American values, I think, is just a shroud. I mean, let's be honest. Super bowl hatster show has never been about family and Christianity in America. I mean, yeah, they just. They were just white before or they spoke English before or they were. You just accepted it before. No, none of these people have those values.

[Ish]

Also, if you're subscribing show was about ratings and money.

[Corey]

If you're subscribing to the American ideals, it's supposed to be like. Like, religious freedom and the freedom to express what you want and believe what you want. So making it strictly Christian or something is not that.

[Ish]

See, that's the mistake we all have when we read about the.

[Corey]

The.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You're wrong.

[Corey]

You're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. I'm saying about. That's why I prefaced it with the hypothetical. You're believing the. The American ideal speeches.

[Mona]

That's what they're preaching. Almost like they're being held down for. For being. For what they feel. In reality, they want to hold everybody, everybody else down.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Let's be honest. They never listen to a Bad Bunny song. They don't know what his values are. They don't know what the. The music is about. They just don't like it because they read him as an outsider.

[Mona]

And he said. And some of his songs are in English. It's not like everything is going to be Spanish because that's what. That's. I saw what you saw. Oh, it is. He doesn't have English songs.

[Joe Button]

No, no, I don't. That.

[Mona]

I don't want to see no goddamn Bad Bunny at my Super Bowl.

[Ish]

You know who want to see it? All the hoes that's gonna be around.

[Joe Button]

Correct.

[Ish]

At the Super Bowl.

[Mona]

I didn't realize he don't have no English songs though.

[Corey]

Yeah, there might be a bar too. Maybe a guest guest feature.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Might be in English, but English ain't really his jam.

[Joe Button]

Listen, you don't want to see Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl. That could be when you go to the store or you go check on your wife.

[Corey]

The Puppy Bowl.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Remember that. There's plenty of other things you have going on. I'm going to be watching. And that's not cuz I'm pandering to Puerto Rican.

[Ish]

Puerto what?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fred Sanford on it, he said Puerto Ricans. Puerto Rican.

[Joe Button]

Is that what Sanford said?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, as you say about Julio Fuentes.

[Mona]

That's how they said it in Crookland.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what my dad used to say.

[Joe Button]

I was saying it the way on.

[Mona]

Catherine put a rickens.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what every old black person.

[Joe Button]

Look at them.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ricky.

[Joe Button]

I'm watching that Bad Bunny.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

Come on, my girl probably gonna want to watch the super bowl too.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah. That's the point.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Are you gonna have those new KFC wings?

[Joe Button]

Can't wait. Yo, them wings. The KFC barbecue wings is back, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Ish]

What the OG joints or is this.

[Corey]

Not a stepped on?

[Joe Button]

I haven't tasted it because they tricked.

[Ish]

Me before and they said the. The honey barbecue was back and I went to kfc, but it wasn't the OG wings. They had like, like the spicy wing. A new wing dipped in that sauce.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, that ain't the Same.

[Mona]

The original is fried first and then soaked and then like a little baked on it.

[Ish]

Yes, that's how the OG was.

[Mona]

N. They was crazy. They was crazy. They was crazy. Mona was big. Big, big Mona. Back then I was knocking off six pieces back to back.

[Ish]

I knocked off a 20 pack.

[Mona]

Listen, I'm six times threes. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Mean.

[Mona]

Yeah, we on that. Well done me. I'm trying to get to that wing stuff now.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, you feel me? Like I went and took a couple bites.

[Mona]

Ah, God. I bet he did this.

[Joe Button]

This. This set up be at the job starving in a. I'm telling you these.

[Mona]

Come back little crumbs and on them they smell like chicken. I thought the smell like chicken. But I can't eat till break time. You see how that go? I got a fake. Take a break. Get a piss break to get in school.

[Joe Button]

Don't do that. Women are treated no differently up here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That is true.

[Mona]

That's true. That's true, Parks. Because you can't get into your contraption and get your asparagus out quick enough.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Mona]

You really need to sit down and asparagus. He bring his lunch. I pee.

[Joe Button]

Okay, so we done with Bad Bunny?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We.

[Mona]

I'm not excited. That Bad Bunny on Super Bowl.

[Ish]

Can I say that it's okay.

[Mona]

It's k. It's not my. I mean it's like Bodega Barbie.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Then I seen something that said that Bad Bunny and JLO are supposed to appear. This is a rumor on the bodega. No more JLO on the Bodega Barbie Cardi remix.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, that was crazy. I would say.

[Joe Button]

And that maybe the they will be performing that at the Super Bowl. Man.

[Mona]

We don't want no. We don't want no. JLO is tired of JLo.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Speak for yourself.

[Mona]

You want to see JLo? You don't want to hear JLo.

[Joe Button]

You're not going to hear her.

[Corey]

You're not going to hear JLO at all.

[Ish]

That's the weedy part too.

[Corey]

Somebody. No, that someone else back there saying it's not her voice.

[Ish]

JLO and Cardi.

[Mona]

Jlo Carney.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You on the island by yourself with that one.

[Joe Button]

What? Why you don't with JLo?

[Mona]

I with JLo back then when it was his just she's to me not that artist that has that kind of catalog to come back out or make new music. She did whatever she did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She had the wrong group of whatever.

[Mona]

She did what she did.

[Joe Button]

She wasn't supposed to win in enough. Y' all what did y' all see? Enough. Yes.

[Ish]

And I bet you like the coward he is.

[Joe Button]

This. He's going to stand over top of.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You and kick you.

[Joe Button]

Hey, talk about it, Rick.

[Mona]

Real life, she lost her teeth.

[Joe Button]

Real life, she been dead.

[Mona]

No team.

[Corey]

I never saw.

[Ish]

You like.

[Joe Button]

No, you like. You like good bad movies.

[Corey]

Oh, then I might watch it.

[Ish]

You got to watch.

[Joe Button]

Is nothing.

[Mona]

It makes women feel powerful, bro. Like we can actually win a fight.

[Corey]

She was a boxer.

[Joe Button]

No watch fast forward today.

[Ish]

Went to an MMA for two weeks.

[Mona]

It became an assassin. And she ends up. She ends up hunting down a nigga that's hunting down her. And she whoops this nigga ass to.

[Ish]

The MMA nigga for three and a half weeks to learn some self defense.

[Corey]

Cause she was getting this sounds great.

[Ish]

She started going back and forth doing capoeira.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I would go as far as to say enough is probably a hood classic.

[Mona]

It might be enough. That's really what it looked like. Why do y' all have that down pack in sync like that? That's crazy. I said it. But why do y' all remember it like that?

[Ish]

Like, yo, what the you doing?

[Mona]

To the listeners, these just broke out the full koola together with a rush is ice. They look like background dancers. Do it again, y'. All.

[Ish]

Yo, are you crazy?

[Mona]

Y' all good at that.

[Corey]

That should be back backup dancers, y'.

[Ish]

All.

[Mona]

Y' all good at that. Y' all just did that. Perfectly insane.

[Ish]

She had his cell phone jam the signals. I'm watching that movie.

[Joe Button]

This. She shouldn't have won though.

[Mona]

She.

[Joe Button]

She shouldn't have won that. That was rigged.

[Mona]

She chopped her hair off and put that 27 piece wig on.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

We not supposed to be able to. We not supposed to say she did at this. They rigged the out.

[Mona]

I hope ain't watch that and try to do it in their own.

[Ish]

And with the TKO for three weeks. I'm telling y' all came home to enough is enough today. Oh, man, this nigga's a fool.

[Corey]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

Moving right along.

[Ish]

Yes, please.

[Corey]

Pretty please.

[Mona]

He's tickle pink.

[Ish]

This is a fool.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[Ish]

I'm watching that movie the y'.

[Joe Button]

All. Yeah. And he's laughing hysterically.

[Ish]

Yo, don't. Don't watch that. That is trash. Do not watch that stupid ass movie, dog.

[Corey]

I'm watching it too late.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Do we care about cash money versus.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Limit versus Winner take all.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Ish]

Or what they take?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They didn't say. Just said winner take all in the headlines. I didn't know what that meant.

[Ish]

I'm excited I. I give a lot of. About this. I'm very excited.

[Corey]

They should be giving you a ticket backstage host.

[Ish]

I wouldn't go.

[Joe Button]

For real.

[Ish]

I would not want to see that in Vegas.

[Joe Button]

Sorry.

[Corey]

It's all good.

[Ish]

I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't. I would not want to see that in Vegas. I would literally want to be in New Orleans at a watch party.

[Corey]

Yeah, Vegas is.

[Mona]

Why wouldn't. Yeah, why? That's what they're doing at Vegas.

[Ish]

Vegas.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Why they're not doing in New Orleans.

[Ish]

Yeah, somebody's gonna die.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Rappers never get killed in Vegas.

[Mona]

So Ice, did you see the Cash Money show that was just going around and it was like cash money estate property. Did you see that?

[Ish]

No.

[Mona]

I went to that and I felt like, like, of course BG has all this energy because he fresh home when like out of jail or whatever. But the rest of them, it was like BG and Juvenile give a great show. The rest of them, it was just a snooze fest. I just feel like they going, they don't need to have that energy. Like maybe have BG and Juvenile be the ones up the front or whatever because they were kind of boring.

[Corey]

Yeah, well, they should be the ones in the front anyway. Kind of.

[Mona]

Well, Juvenile. Yeah, cuz Juvenile with the bangers.

[Ish]

Yeah, I love Juvenile and see, that's why. But see, a statement like that is why I need to watch that in New Orleans.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Cuz out of all of them, Juvenile and BG probably got the two best cash money albums.

[Mona]

Fact.

[Ish]

Period. Yeah, but there's people that's gonna like, oh no, Wayne. Yeah, I. I know, but I, I need the people that really understand cash money music.

[Mona]

Because what would Wayne's album be? What? The Block is hot. He didn't have no album back then. He just had a hot boys album. He had a solo album as a kid.

[Ish]

Block is hot, 500 degrees, lights out. He did. Did.

[Mona]

I'm saying. But a whole project. Okay.

[Ish]

I always, when I, when I, when I equate Cash money, I always do.

[Mona]

Pre Carter Wayne because that's when that flow came. That's when he started rapping like that ball hitting me.

[Corey]

That's what. Manny Fresh wasn't doing the bulk of the production too.

[Ish]

He did a lot of production on one. Yeah. Once the Carters came and then, you know, from there it's into the young money era and all of that. I always separate them. So anything pre Carter one, all of that's all that's cash money.

[Joe Button]

But the Carter one change enough of Word bombing with Joe. Who's winning? Who's winning?

[Mona]

Cash money. Hands down.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

ICE is a no limit.

[Ish]

I am a no limit soldier.

[Joe Button]

Stand soldier for real.

[Ish]

But I got. I got cash money winning, but I have it being a lot closer than people are going to give it credit to.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What are the piece. What are the tracks or the records from no limit that we forget in.

[Ish]

The about down for my is.

[Joe Button]

Is.

[Ish]

Is damn near an automatic point. You can't do nothing with that. Make them say so.

[Joe Button]

Down for my versus Back that ass up is what. Is what people are wondering about.

[Ish]

And I think that would depend on. I personally, I have down for my. This is a problem.

[Joe Button]

Just in case you forgot.

[Ish]

Women might. I feel differently with Back that Ass up.

[Mona]

This is a problem.

[Joe Button]

Great, right?

[Mona]

Record.

[Ish]

It's a huge record.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That record is huge. I don't think nothing beats Back that Ass Up.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Because women going.

[Joe Button]

It's just different.

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying. It's. Women are gonna react more to Back that Ass Up. Of course. I just think overall my Niggas is a bigger record.

[Mona]

I take back what I said because first I said to you that I think make them say would be the matchup to. To Back that Ass Up. But no, it would be this because this was like the club drawing when the DJ trying to get the club hype. Hype and get to one side of the crowd to say the other. This. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

So, yeah, it would definitely be down for my versus Back that ass up for sure.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Don't make me get up.

[Ish]

Which version you got? Because you gotta have a version with juvie saying Cash Money taking over for the 99.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's a verse in itself.

[Joe Button]

I didn't know another version exists. Two versions.

[Ish]

The other version is the one where he actually say that. That's the one that they play. He mentions Cash Money Records. Take it over for the 99. You heard me. That's the one.

[Joe Button]

I feel like a herb. Yeah, you are.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You got on the tims without the leather at the top.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm about to say now apologize to me, you ass. Anyway. All right, let's do it the right way. Imagine if I didn't have that. Oh, my Lord. Who do y' all have winning? Y' all have Back to the Ass up winning.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I do.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Corey]

I do.

[Ish]

I don't. Cash Money Records taking over.

[Joe Button]

I gotta go back that ass up because it's a longer run that got. It's a longer run.

[Corey]

Least two other hit records that came out of it, so.

[Joe Button]

And there's never been a year where that wasn't that when they come on, they come on since it came out, right.

[Ish]

That, that, that Wayne part at the end. After you. Yeah. Part one and two.

[Joe Button]

We in the studio with enough dope tracks. Cause we real. We better call your grill. Cause if we body. If you ain't about it, you might get killed.

[Ish]

I represent Scully out, man.

[Joe Button]

I don't think as a New York I could score this. I can't score it.

[Ish]

But. Yes, you can. Now you can. You know why she's gonna be scoring on the national. On, on. And the songs that are that impactful that you know them as a New York nigga are gonna be the songs that ultimately get it done.

[Joe Button]

And that. That's why I think New York niggas shouldn't judge it.

[Ish]

I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

That's why I think that we shouldn't judge it. This should be a regional effect. Fair.

[Ish]

This is us. This is the tooth short in. In E40.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah. We might know more songs from E40, cuz they have bigger reach. But the from the Bay is like. Nah, it's this, it's this, it's this. It's going to impact them differently. That's why I just said I would not want to go to Vegas to watch this. I want to be in New Orleans.

[Corey]

Let's go to New Orleans.

[Ish]

You know I'm down to go to new.

[Joe Button]

I was there when Master P was putting out an album. Every week I bought them and it was a hit. Hit on every one of them. Whether it was them two ugly ass little brothers, the Silk albums, the. No matter who it was, it ain't my fault.

[Ish]

It's gonna rain another one.

[Joe Button]

It's the mystical. Got a few.

[Mona]

That was my question. I have a question. Because then versus they people do their solo projects, right? Are they gonna use mystical stuff?

[Joe Button]

Yes. Damn right they gonna use it.

[Mona]

I didn't know because it was.

[Ish]

He ain't gonna be there.

[Mona]

We gonna use the music because he. Because I mean, he. He's. When you look on the no limit side, Silk the Shocker had a little run, but nobody had big songs like mystical out of them other than, you know, Master P.

[Ish]

So. So shake your ass or back that thing up.

[Mona]

Back that.

[Joe Button]

Shake it.

[Ish]

Hold on. War.

[Mona]

Shake it. That's a good one. That's a good.

[Ish]

That's still his no limit run.

[Corey]

Oh, that's true. Could have been. It could have been.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think.

[Mona]

I don't Think he got to look cuz you never know.

[Ish]

I think that's after no Limit still.

[Mona]

I could picture that. I could picture that video in my head.

[Corey]

It should.

[Mona]

Well, they was in the desert.

[Joe Button]

That was Back that ass up is the greatest song probably that's going to come out of this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

If that mystical song is on that no limit roster. That mystical song was a huge record.

[Corey]

It was.

[Ish]

That was.

[Mona]

And they better bring me an X.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I wouldn't even put my best against back. That's like a wasting opinion.

[Ish]

It's a wasting a point. But that, that, that shake your ass song like in the older crowds and all that. She used to be at the cookouts everywhere like, oh, that is different.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It was tough.

[Ish]

That back your ass up is a younger song. That shake your ass old. Be listening to that.

[Joe Button]

No, back that ass up came out first.

[Ish]

I know I'm saying but old. Nah, that's not no limit. That's. That's right. That's the first album after he left no Limit. That's what I thought.

[Mona]

I thought, damn, they needed that.

[Ish]

They did two joints on there.

[Mona]

Yeah, they needed that. But Mystical still got work on the basketball court. Tasmanian Devil joint. That's all they really is N they got.

[Ish]

Snoop had a run over there and he had. He had a couple joint like I no limit has records.

[Mona]

Snoop had hits with no Limit.

[Corey]

Not to the level of death row.

[Ish]

Or remember no hits or L is a. L is a. There a no limit record.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a no limit record.

[Mona]

They don't have a shot. Cash money going to them up.

[Ish]

Please is a no limit record.

[Mona]

I mean they don't.

[Ish]

Who? Please?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I don't say the word.

[Joe Button]

I don't know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get that on your goddamn knees.

[Joe Button]

You know, you won't say please.

[Mona]

He doesn't use the B word.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We're not doing this again.

[Ish]

Do this. But yeah, it's records.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, he got a few.

[Joe Button]

Forward. Look forward to seeing it.

[Corey]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

I'll be on a live stream. I won't be in Vegas.

[Ish]

A couple of them. Maya Silk the Shocker records was Joyce. Yes, that would count.

[Mona]

I hope they bring me an ex.

[Ish]

I hope so.

[Mona]

They have to.

[Ish]

I hope so. That's what I'm really interested in is what no limit artists are going to be there.

[Mona]

I haven't seen Silk the Shocker in years. Like I wouldn't.

[Ish]

It's a lot of. It's been a lot of beef between them people not fucking with P and Master P. Is known for doing this whole new no limit and new new no limit and newer no limit and bringing his sons and.

[Mona]

Can he. I was about to say, can he bring a Romeo song?

[Ish]

You goddamn right he bring Romeo up there.

[Mona]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Does he want to throw it?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What little Romeo song you pulling out?

[Mona]

I don't know. I just think they need. I just think they need help. Like when I think about cash money and then like the kind of songs cash money have, I think they need help. And I do agree that it should be Southern judging it cuz they know what. Which songs did what to the street. You know what I mean? Juvenile. First solo album.

[Ish]

Understand when I tell you they play.

[Joe Button]

That in hour four. Master P, that's the. Don't. Don't play it too soon now. Don't bust your low pause.

[Ish]

I think they'll be all right. I really think they'll be all right.

[Joe Button]

I'm a moaner. Let me give my unexperted expert opinion.

[Ish]

I think they going to be all right. They got. If we going to just the 20. He can do it.

[Corey]

Oh, you can definitely do it.

[Ish]

And make it very close.

[Mona]

But y' all know who will win, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Cash money wins, but it's a lot closer.

[Ish]

Cash money got shit, bro. Cash money got a lot of. And like I said, if I'm counting what I consider to be just cash money, which is all pre Carter one, It's a lot of just sitting there. That Hot Boys album might give you four records by itself. That Hot Boys album was different.

[Mona]

Yeah, just.

[Ish]

Just guerrilla warfare could give you four joints, maybe five if you really want to push it.

[Joe Button]

Say the name of that. Please. Record, please.

[Mona]

And I'm glad what you call.

[Joe Button]

Is that your chick? Is that your chick? Oh, my God. Jesus. All right, what else? What up? What else? What else needs our attention, distinguished gentleman. She wanna us. She down.

[Mona]

I ain't no lady.

[Joe Button]

She did. See? I told her.

[Ish]

My bad.

[Joe Button]

That's an insult.

[Mona]

Call out a lady, not an insult. I'm just not a lady.

[Joe Button]

Anybody find it fishy? Ain't nobody heard from doi.

[Corey]

Yo, it's about what.

[Joe Button]

I knew you would say that.

[Corey]

No, I don't know that.

[Joe Button]

Me neither. We can find another topic. I was just asking y'. All.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know.

[Corey]

I don't know what the context is.

[Mona]

I don't know either. What the industry plan.

[Joe Button]

Move right along.

[Ish]

Yeah, moving right along.

[Corey]

Okay, I'm.

[Joe Button]

Parks ain't tripping me up.

[Ish]

Why you asked that question?

[Joe Button]

Because I thought it would be a little more Obvious than it is, but I guess it's not yet, but it's kind of obvious.

[Ish]

So Dirk is in the news again.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, man.

[Ish]

This time they. Well, well, two things came out. And again, this is all alleged. Dirk is currently la, I believe. Yeah, he's in LA awaiting trial for his murder to hire case. So two things came out that he's alleged to have done. First one is first they had him on phones, like speaking to people. You're not supposed to be talking to people. Three waying calls, you talking to other folks. So then they said they found an Apple Watch, that he had a cellular Apple Watch and was contacting folks. And then when they. When they found the watch, he tried to destroy it. And then the. The other news that came out is allegedly again, I keep saying allegedly. He's been trying to put hits on old block members for not getting retaliation for King Von's murder. Wow. Incarcerated.

[Corey]

Oh, from the Apple Watch.

[Ish]

I don't know from which device or the three way.

[Corey]

Putting out hits on the Apple Watch is some very ice to do.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He got an app.

[Joe Button]

Y' all being more comfortable with this topic than the DOI Topic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Crazy.

[Corey]

I really don't know.

[Joe Button]

Hey, doi. Oh, mom's the word. Hey. So Dirk's been putting hit out on.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

People from his Apple Watch.

[Joe Button]

So crazy.

[Ish]

Like a movie.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God.

[Ish]

Again, it's all alleged, but everything's a legend. Yeah, it's a legend.

[Mona]

You know what stress that it's alleged, fellas. It me up that people see people go to jail and then they're surprised. They shock when they get in trouble. Trouble is like, it's jail. You know, these are criminals. Of course you go to jail and break the rules. If the man said you can't make a three way, the first thing you're doing is making a three way. Even. People was talking all that shit about thug like, oh, he's sitting on the phone. He's sitting on the phone. Y' all couldn't have ever been in jail. Like, that's what motherfuckers do. They sit on the phone and you get comfortable and you forget that the person in the beginning says this call will be recorded. It's just real shit. You know what I mean? Him, I was so disappointed in the fact that he did did stupid shit like use a credit card to book a flight that nothing else will surprise me. Like, he's completely like, in my mind, he's lost it. Like watching how a lot of those guys in Chicago, how they grew, how they changed, how some of them didn't grow and some of them didn't change. Watching so many of them die or be murdered or whatever, running this thing lifestyle. He just was too far gone to fuck up like that. And I'm disappointed in him. Dirk is somebody that feel like family because he'd been out for so long. He watched him grow up or whatever, so. And then he went through different phases. His little Dejlo front, whatever. So to see him back on top with the rapping, you know, even with him being with the lady he got kids with and having a family and all that, to see this nigga book flights for niggas on his personal car is just like, you just like, what the fuck? Like, I just think he's stupid. I'm disappointed in him. Like, you could have 50 niggas book them flights other than you. It's sick already that you even care to know enough. You know what I mean? Or the fact that you couldn't let it go as a man, but okay, you can't let it go as a man. You got to do this. Why not do it, like, smart, smarter, not so sloppy.

[Ish]

I get what you're saying.

[Mona]

Like, it was just stupid.

[Ish]

Yeah, I mean, I agree.

[Mona]

I'm disappointed. They feel like my cousin or something real. I'm disappointed in them.

[Joe Button]

All right. Did you write them?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No.

[Mona]

I heard he took Shah. He became a Muslim because his father's a Muslim.

[Ish]

People I've ever written Surf, my pops. Cousin.

[Mona]

Surf's your friend?

[Ish]

Surf is like little bro.

[Mona]

Folks, okay.

[Joe Button]

What you said to your pops. You said you love him.

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Do y' all write strangers in prison?

[Corey]

No, no, no, not strangers.

[Mona]

I started to write thug. I had to fight it.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Mona]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I've written a few.

[Mona]

You wrote letters to. You don't know, like, want some free to fight and rebellion or just send them encouragement.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Keep your head up like. Like you want something to talk about, right?

[Joe Button]

I'm here. Chicken it over. What's wrong? Go ahead.

[Mona]

Right, people, back in your pocket. This some bring every up joke. You getting up eating chicken that ranch and bring it over here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's real disrespectful.

[Mona]

For the listeners. Joe is now eating a flat pre his flats. He dunked it in ranches also.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

How come he only got chicken for one person?

[Mona]

Me and him.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You like? I like chicken is you like chicken.

[Ish]

Love chicken.

[Joe Button]

Love chicken.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I parks you like chicken.

[Corey]

I love chicken.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He got a 15.

[Mona]

Were any of y' all new?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did you get chicken when you were New.

[Mona]

He ain't never been new. That's the dude. He ain't never been new.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't getting no chicken.

[Mona]

They met in third grade. Let's keep going with this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I like it, but go ahead.

[Ish]

Back to you, right?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I wasn't important. Just. Yeah, I write people sometimes when they locked up. Sometimes you get the information.

[Ish]

Is that just going like, just pick a random.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, no. So it's two different things, right? So sometimes, obviously I get probably 50 letters a week from people in prison. You don't know that. I don't know People usually asking for help with their case. Sometimes it's just. I like what you do. Sometimes it's help with their case. Sometimes it's. Can you connect me? Da, da, da. I try to write at least five of them back a week. That's like my rule.

[Joe Button]

You don't need freedom.

[Mona]

Five a week. You're such a good person.

[Joe Button]

How long?

[Ish]

The letters?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Mine are short. What I do is I read them because they're written by hand and then I write them on my laptop and then send them out.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Ish]

Copy and paste.

[Corey]

You know what I mean?

[Ish]

Jon Jones, stay strong.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hold your head. No, no, I don't copy and paste.

[Ish]

Ray Smith. Donovan McNally. Copy and paste. No, no, I wr.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I write original Leslie's person. But they don't be long, but long enough. You know what I'm saying? And then some people go too far and then I got to stop. Stop things. But then some people I reach out to. Like, if it's a high profile person who I think could use some help. I give you a perfect example. John Forte. He got caught up in a real up situation years ago with the liquid cocaine. And that's how I got to know him. I wrote him and asked how I could support him because I was like, I thought he was wrongfully locked up. I mean, he had the cocaine.

[Ish]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

A lot of cocaine.

[Ish]

He just have a.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, but here's the problem. He had liquid cocaine in a briefcase. And what the feds did was they didn't weigh the cocaine based on what he had. They. They counted against him based on what it would be once it was completely in his powder form.

[Mona]

That's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's exactly what it was. It was bullshit. So he ended up getting like.

[Joe Button]

Wait, which part was the fact that they.

[Mona]

If they using a discovery, they weighing it on what it would be if he gets versus weighing the liquid that.

[Joe Button]

He had versus what it was when he had it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When he had it in the briefcase.

[Mona]

When he got locked Up, Right?

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This made it sense. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Do you think?

[Joe Button]

I hear he ate.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now he.

[Joe Button]

But was the brief. Was the briefcase on him?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Was the cocaine in the briefcase?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Was the liquid cocaine in the briefcase?

[Mona]

Yeah. Yes, allegedly.

[Ish]

Can you sell it liquid?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ish]

When you bag up and they lock you up, they going to weigh all the sh.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Weighing what you have is different, yo.

[Joe Button]

Ever since this Mark hire, I'm not going to lie, man. I'm confused on what a freedom fighter is.

[Corey]

I didn't even know cocaine was liquid.

[Joe Button]

So wait, you missing out. So you telling me I gotta take my. I'm supposed to take my hard hurt freedom time and write a nigga who they caught with a briefcase of liquid cocaine at the airport. At the airport.

[Mona]

If they're fucking him at trial, yes. You write a whole.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Here's why you should give a fuck. Here's why you should give a fuck. You don't wanna. It's not about him. It's about setting a standard where whenever people get caught with certain kinds of things that they can. They can roof you. Because we all know people that sell drugs, Mark.

[Joe Button]

I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody that went to the airport to do it and got caught. And I wrote them. I'm not saying it don't happen, but I'm not advocating for people that go to the federally owned airport to move drugs. I'm not advocating for that. So you advocate for too much shit. And here's what I'm standing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's fine.

[Joe Button]

You just be talking to me. John Forte is where the he's supposed to be at.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He been out of prison for like 15 years.

[Joe Button]

He's supposed to be at. He's in rub, thanks to Mark. Chilling.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He actually more thanks to Carly Simon. But like, they put a lot of energy into getting him free. But the point is, you don't. It's our cousins, our brothers, our sisters that's going to get locked up and get sentences that they don't deserve. Instead of getting five years, they're getting 50. And that's the part I care about.

[Mona]

Damn right.

[Ish]

That's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the part. It's not about him. It's about. About people getting 50 years instead of five. In the same way that people who were selling coke versus people selling crack got different sentences. I'm not saying go sell crack. I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

But you're not writing John Forte and saying, hey, that was probably a bad plan. You writing him saying, hey, man, that was wrong. The time that they gave you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, that's not what I did. What I asked him was I connected with him initially to see how I could get with his legal team. Team so that we could work with ACLU and other people wanting to get him less time, but more importantly, to set a standard where they can't go around giving people. The state can't go on giving people that much more time for something they didn't do.

[Mona]

Right.

[Joe Button]

That's all Mark.

[Ish]

Whatever, bro.

[Joe Button]

Whatever. I don't give a.

[Mona]

That's right.

[Joe Button]

I ain't about to sit here and pretend like I give. You're doing great work, man.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mona]

Thank you.

[Ish]

You fight the good fight.

[Mona]

Thank you so much for what you do.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Word. Thank you, Mona. And with the exception of you, I want to say fuck you and every one of you.

[Ish]

No, I'm saying thank you.

[Corey]

I was being serious.

[Joe Button]

Not you, but me.

[Mona]

That. That Hunt.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know what? You come to the cookout this.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Who else are you wr. Who else you writing letters to?

[Corey]

That's a really good question.

[Joe Button]

Who else are you writing letters to? I'd love to hear it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now I write. I mean. You mean in prison?

[Mona]

Don't. Don't, bro.

[Joe Button]

You know what it is? Absolutely.

[Corey]

But I want to know.

[Joe Button]

I want to, like, I feel like, who. His list of who we activisting for. Activist Free the mark. Activist for too much.

[Ish]

You don't think so is that's his bag.

[Mona]

A freedom fighter's job is never done.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's right.

[Joe Button]

That's the problem. All right, all right, all right. You got it.

[Mona]

I admire what Mark Lamont Hill does.

[Corey]

Me too.

[Mona]

I appreciate, like, I wish I could give a that much. You know what I mean? Like, I care. But I said this before. Like, we marching. It's like, wrong. They killing, you know, so another nigga just got shot. We marching. But I care to the point like, when the state trooper like, nigger, get the fuck up. I'm getting up. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not locking arms and going to jail.

[Joe Button]

I care about that one of this stay true for murdering a black person in a car in front of their daughter, putting their knee on our neck. Hey, let me get my activist clothes.

[Mona]

Do you come outside and go to.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The police giving niggas 50 years instead of five ain't worth the activist clothes.

[Joe Button]

The. That went to the airport with a briefcase of liquid cocaine.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wait, so you think if you want. If you guilty of something, you should get whatever time they want to give you?

[Joe Button]

I'm saying that you got. You got to lay in the bed that you make.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No matter. So think.

[Joe Button]

My mom preached to me that the jail system is modern day slavery. They looking for black people. And once they get you into grips, baby, there's nothing that I can do. Unfair, unjust system.

[Mona]

But you had a smart mom. You had a mom that told you that a lot of people.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You told me you used to rob people. You said that last episode, right? If they gave you 30 years for it, you wouldn't want somebody to advocate for you to not get 30 years.

[Mona]

For robbing people without a gun.

[Joe Button]

I would do my time. That's what I would do.

[Mona]

You was robbing with your index and your middle finger.

[Joe Button]

What I would do my time. That's the accountability part of being a street. That's why there's a separation between that's street and that's not. Some are going to do it and take whatever on the chin that you give me because I did that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But my question was you. You would it be fair.

[Joe Button]

But what be fair? Would it be fair for you to.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get 30 years for robbing somebody?

[Joe Button]

Maybe not Mark. Life ain't fair. Life ain't fair.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So my job is to make it more fair?

[Joe Button]

No, it's not your job.

[Corey]

It's actually his job.

[Joe Button]

I'm done with Mark.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right?

[Mona]

Literal job.

[Ish]

I'm done with Mark.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what we do. We make shit better.

[Joe Button]

I want to know who else Mark is writing to.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm writing all kinds of people.

[Joe Button]

He's writing to Menendez, brother. Hey, man, mom and dad, have you ever wrote Mumia?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Mumia and I wrote a book together.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's called the Classroom in the Cell. In fact, we write in a second one right now. I talked to Mumia yesterday.

[Mona]

Tell him I say hi.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I will.

[Joe Button]

Hey, y' all take this Philly book club up the street.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Mia Bu is the world's most famous political prisoner. Oh, God damn, yo. Literally.

[Joe Button]

What else. What else do we need? What else do we need?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I need lemon pepper wings.

[Joe Button]

He did that at the airport. Was that when the dogs was there?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The dogs can't smell the liquid.

[Joe Button]

Who smelled it?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think somebody said.

[Mona]

Joe, are you being. Are you being facetious? Are you dead serious about the cocaine thing? Joe, are you being serious?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He got.

[Corey]

It was in more than the three ounce bottles.

[Joe Button]

Sick of Mark. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Mona]

So you're. You're being serious that this man going to jail with liquid cocaine in his pocket, he's getting charged with. Instead of getting charged with Licking cocaine. He's getting charged for powder cocaine. What he would have done with it. You think that's like regular? That's normal. You're not supposed to stand up and say that's not true.

[Joe Button]

It's not normal and it's not fair. And thank God that we have people like you and Mark that advocate online. I don't think that advocate on podcasts. I don't think that when. When Americans go to Dubai with a little bit of weed that they should get locked up for life. Neither. I think it's a little joy. I think what they did to Brittney Griner was wrong when she had the vape in Russia.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But, but don't go get her out. Just leave her there. Just let her in Russian.

[Joe Button]

No, that's not what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What I'm doing is going to hel. That's what I do. Yeah, I get it. You shouldn't do it. Nobody should do nothing up.

[Ish]

But when.

[Joe Button]

But I never hear that part in your message.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Because there's no shortage. Because there's no shortage of people telling them they nobody thinks you should bring cocaine to the airport. I don't need to write, you know what? You made a bad choice. He knows he made a bad choice.

[Joe Button]

Have a shortage of people in their life telling them that they. When they did or didn't make a good decision.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When a get caught with liquid cocaine, you write him and say, yo, that was a bad idea and I'll try and get him free. That'll be our. That'll be our split.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna have a pen in my house. What are you talking about? He missing my whole point of what I'm saying. No, I'm not doing that at the airport. So I never have to get a pin and rape one of these dummies that did that at the airport.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And I do talk to them about that. I go to the prisons and talk to them about that all the time. I was like, I do that all the time, mark.

[Mona]

I was 21, facing 10 to life. And I wish a motherfucker would have came and said, this is wrong. And that's wrong. Cause it was wrong. And the only reason why I didn't get ten fucking years. Cause they changed the law. That hundred to one law. That's why I didn't get all that time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's my point. You shouldn't.

[Mona]

You know how many people was advocating for that? Including but not limited to the fucking President. He came out and said that judges can use their own discretion and that's why I didn't get 10 years. Because what Obama said, the law didn't even change all the way yet. Yep, you're right. He's wrong. Let it go.

[Joe Button]

Facts.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

God damn, this is good talk.

[Joe Button]

I'm gonna fix you all, too.

[Mona]

Ranch. Ranch and Pepsi. Let's wrap this up. Look, he coming back full.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And, yo, why do you think keep eating while we working?

[Joe Button]

Oh, listen, that's part of the test.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Let another walk.

[Mona]

Let another walk past me with a wing and watch how this play out. Watch how this we. This the type of we want. Y' all want to fight to the death of the chicken? Let's get it. Hey, yo, dog, what we doing?

[Joe Button]

We will discuss this more on Patreon.

[Corey]

There we go.

[Joe Button]

All right. Let's get it. How's that? How's that for a happy medium?

[Ish]

Chickens and the birds.

[Joe Button]

In between our activist activism section and.

[Mona]

Whatever the I am, I resent that.

[Joe Button]

You activist.

[Ish]

You're activist.

[Mona]

I'm layered and a criminal.

[Ish]

I'm layered.

[Joe Button]

It's an activist criminal. I feel like y' all fight for the act.

[Ish]

I'm a complex individual.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Like, it ain't never nobody that's been wrongfully accused. It's like, hey, we should be able to take that briefcase. Deal. All right, we'll talk about our Patreon. And it's up because John Forte is my man. I with him. What do you think about Pras?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Depends on the details of the case. I've heard some things that would make me skeptical of support. It rhymes with which.

[Corey]

Yeah, always. Nevermind. We'll talk about it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And not a word that he won't say.

[Joe Button]

Did y' all see Angie Martinez asked Doja Cat about devil worshiping? No. No. Really? As soon as I find a thing, Majig, I'll play it for you. Got it. Who works in the store thinks you worship the deaf?

[Mona]

Is it inside of you to ever.

[Joe Button]

Clear something that like that up, or you just kind of let that be fester in the world as it.

[Ish]

As it wants to?

[Mona]

I think about it a lot. Really?

[Joe Button]

I think about it almost every day.

[Ish]

What part of it?

[Joe Button]

Every single part, every time, every pinpoint.

[Mona]

Of when that's happened to me down my career.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's happened a lot. Yeah, I love that.

[Mona]

And I think it's not for me.

[Joe Button]

To prove.

[Mona]

To people who cannot or don't wish to listen.

[Joe Button]

It's the harsh reality. But I'd like to stay there, and.

[Mona]

I feel comfortable there because there's so.

[Joe Button]

Many other great things happening that I can.

[Mona]

Instead of ruminating, I can choose to.

[Joe Button]

Express maybe the way I feel about.

[Mona]

That thing with music or with an outfit or with a painting or with something.

[Joe Button]

Being creative is really a good outlet for.

[Mona]

For addressing in to me personally. But unless somebody asks all the beautiful.

[Joe Button]

Questions the way you do, I mean.

[Mona]

Then maybe I can discuss it, but I also don't want to. I don't ever want to say something that.

[Joe Button]

And I can't.

[Mona]

I'm telling you, like, in the past.

[Joe Button]

I could not talk.

[Mona]

I still honestly am learning how to talk.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sometimes I can talk really well.

[Mona]

But there's times where if I have a camera on me and there's like.

[Joe Button]

A person who's talking to me and I'm distracted by something, or if I.

[Mona]

Had a bad day or something, like all the things in the biome have to fall together correctly or else I can't speak.

[Joe Button]

All right, distinguish panel.

[Ish]

She didn't say one. But with all of that, I'm kind of with her. Like, I get what she's saying is like, I'll let y' all think what y' all want. That ain't what she said.

[Mona]

I didn't even hear that.

[Ish]

That's what she said in the beginning. And then she just started all the word vomit. She was like, yeah, I don't do. I want to clear it up. Think what y' all want.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't.

[Ish]

I'm much. I'm good over here. Think whatever y' all want. I ain't here say that. I heard it.

[Mona]

At one point she said something about she rather just do like use her art. I'm sorry. At one point she said something about she rather use her art to tell her how it feels when they accuse her of devil. Like, what the does that mean?

[Ish]

She said a bunch of nothing after that. I'm telling you, all I took from it was, hey, I like it's attention.

[Mona]

I like.

[Ish]

That's what I what I heard.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Mona]

Like the mystique.

[Ish]

Yeah, y' all are talking about me. Oh, is it this? Is it that? Is it this is that. I don't want to clear it up because now I answer the question.

[Corey]

A lot of people don't be too good attention talking. Hey, that would put her in.

[Ish]

She just wrote a soliloquy. And was it what she said though? Nothing. So that don't make her good at talking. That's exactly good at putting a bunch of words out there.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Ish]

You are purposely, purposefully, in my opinion, being evasive.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Ish]

Cuz she could have answered the question. With seven words. Instead, she said 89 words of nothingness.

[Mona]

I have a question. And it kind of goes a little bit backwards, because when we were talking about Sweetie earlier, they. The madam mentioned witchcraft. I feel like with Doja Cat, they accuse her. Well, most people they accused of devil worshiping. Sometimes witchcraft is mixed in it. Or either or. Like, is there any truth to that from which I know that people use witchcraft for real in these industries?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mona]

Wow.

[Ish]

You watch sinners?

[Mona]

Yeah, I think. No, no. Yes, yes, yes.

[Ish]

Like, we got family in the South.

[Corey]

Y' all know devil worshipers?

[Ish]

No, she's saying, like, just witchcraft. Do people. Do people use witchcraft?

[Mona]

I feel like. I feel like the rumors go hand in hand.

[Ish]

Mike can't come to the cook for the black people from that got Southern roots.

[Corey]

Oh, she said in the industry. I thought we were talking.

[Joe Button]

I know there's plenty of people that have practiced witchcraft, if that's the question.

[Mona]

And yes, the madam accused Sweetie using witchcraft. What else would she be using?

[Ish]

We know somebody that does.

[Corey]

Oh, that's true.

[Joe Button]

Witchcraft also, where we come from is not necessarily synonymous with devil worship.

[Mona]

Right?

[Corey]

No doubt.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's almost the opposite.

[Joe Button]

Has. Do. Did DOA Cat clear y'?

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

Did she help y' all to realize that she's not a devil worshiper?

[Ish]

No, no, no. She helped me.

[Joe Button]

She reinforced it to me. Is. Is that.

[Ish]

I love it.

[Joe Button]

Some questions don't require that much thought. We shouldn't have to hear your brain coming up with shit to the devil worshiper question. And even if your answer is what ice picked up, which is, hey, think what you want, that's how easy it is to say that.

[Ish]

But I don't want us. I'm trying to be this. Ooh, mystique. So I'm not just saying think what you want comes off a little blunt. So it's like I'm trying to talk around it and use a bunch of words. I get what she's doing. And it's a form of trolling, damn near. Which is what she's done a lot throughout her career. And it's a form of attention. See?

[Joe Button]

Wait, hold up for a minute. Let me shoot the figure on Wyatt. What? Trolling? How's the trolling?

[Ish]

Like, the moo cow shit, all of that, the little attention. Like, I'm almost. I don't wanna say poking fun, but I'm trying to put it in the right way.

[Joe Button]

The moo. I'm a cow. You put on the same level as.

[Ish]

Not as devil worship, but as the way she's answering the question I'm talking about. It's just I'm being different. That's what it is. It's like, ooh, look at me. I'm doing something different. And I don't want to answer it because now if I answer it, that question's put to bed.

[Joe Button]

I understand what you're saying. I'm just not with. I'm not with trolling being an acceptable answer. When somebody is asking you a very.

[Ish]

Direct question and a very.

[Joe Button]

Like when they asked Doja Cat about, hey, you was in them chat rooms with the old white men saying, nigga, what do you think? And she did kind of the same thing. Like, word vomit, evasive. Some people say, oh, she's trolling, y'. All. No, she's avoiding answering why she was in a chat room with old white people saying, nigga. More of the same here. Fans didn't just pop up with, you are a devil worshiper. There's been behavior to make people say, oh, she worships the devil. We would like a straight answer from that. And if you trolling, then we're going to still pull a straight answer from that, because this ain't the time to troll.

[Ish]

Or if you don't want nobody to know, say, none of y' all business. I could do what I want, or I prefer not to answer that question or something to that effect.

[Mona]

I'm looking for her to be offended. Even if she answers like, how. What you were saying, as far as her being like, you know, it's a mystique thing, or let you think what you want, I'm still looking for a little bit of offense. Because when somebody says devil worship, it's almost. It's a. It goes against, like, your success or what you did to do that success. So if I know I'm working hard and I don't put myself on these charts and got this far, and you gonna say I cheated using the devil, you bitch. Hell, no, it's not. No devil worship on top of the fact that I don't fuck with the devil. So I'm gonna be offended with my mystique Cancer.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, she sound calm.

[Mona]

She sound real relaxed.

[Ish]

She sounds like to me, like there's nothing you can ask her that's gonna make her go either way. Like, I am literally intentionally trying to be vague. Like, you said they asked her about the chat room shit.

[Joe Button]

It's the same thing.

[Ish]

It's like, yeah, I want y' all to just keep talking. And a person that does a lot of attention seeking, they want you to talk. So if I don't answer this it keeps the conversation going.

[Joe Button]

How are you gonna talk when people is a little. Little off in the head too?

[Ish]

Oh, it could be that I'm not, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Okay, let's not.

[Ish]

I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Dismissed it don't be.

[Ish]

I mean we've seen things that could be it but it could be one or the other. We've seen things that where yo it might be a little off, could be both or look at her again doing to get attention all of that or both.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All of that could be true and I don't disagree with any of it. But there's another layer I would add to it which is if I were to ask her that question and she said no, I don't worship the devil, my next thing will be okay you've done X, Y and Z. How do you explain that?

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Whatever the explanation for that is, she might not be prepared to answer. Like she might not worship her thing is I don't worship the devil. But this follow up is gonna get me because a lot of times people are involved in things with the occult or other kinds of spiritual practices that the world reads is weird and she don't want to fall down that rabbit hole. I agree with the word vomit is crazy. I agree that she's probably trying to look mysterious but I suspect there's something else under there too that she don't want to get at. She don't want that. She don't want people to think about.

[Joe Button]

What that thing could be is devil.

[Ish]

Worship or something that could. Because flat the out I know, I know a few people that that's what it gives. Do some that like in the Christian world people will say that's devil worship. That's people who say something right? So. So they kinda don't really explain it unless somebody's open minded to receiving what it is. And I think a lot of times they don't wanna go down that path. Like you saying to now have half an hour conversation about what my beliefs are or what my religion is for having it be misconstrued. So just be like dawg, none of nobody business what I would say if I were to say I don't give a fuck what they think.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If I were I would say I don't worship the devil, but other than that I don't wanna talk about my spiritual sexuality. Yeah, it's so simple and just leave it there.

[Joe Button]

In brighter.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Don't think it's stupid.

[Joe Button]

In brighter news. In brighter news I introduced a segment to you guys called fix this business. Essentially some of the same stuff we were doing in the first segment with the Drake conversation. This time, we tackle Krispy Kreme. Okay, Krispy Kreme, just four years ago, a $3.22 billion brand, now facing a stark reality with a valuation of just $674 million and declining. Jesus. If left up to you, how would you fix Krispy Kreme's business?

[Mona]

I've got it. Stop giving out donuts.

[Ish]

What you mean you could.

[Mona]

Every person that walks into green gets a free donut. Donut. That's a rule. You get a free donut when you walk across cream. You can get one right off the prices.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I didn't know that.

[Mona]

I promise you, you can get a free Krispy Kreme donut. If you go in there.

[Ish]

You're a real big bag.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I didn't know that. I didn't know that.

[Ish]

That's.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Mona]

You can't stop giving away free donuts. And I think that Krispy Kreme is one of them companies that didn't go to influencer route. Like, they don't have no cool tiktoker eating no donuts. You know what I mean? Like one. One dessert business that was huge on Internet and most people say they're nasty in taste, but they still do. Well, is those big old cookies. What's those big cookies? Crumble, crumble and crumble.

[Ish]

Disgusting.

[Mona]

Exactly. But crumbles are opening more and more and more everywhere you go because they have influencers everywhere. Crumble will drop a cookie that goes with an album. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Crumble next.

[Ish]

So I said, I don't know how long that's gonna last.

[Mona]

And it's gross. You get six cookies for 15 bucks. Like crumble necks. It's working because what crumble next. Crumble is next.

[Ish]

What I would tell Krispy Kreme is all for food. Like, expand your menu a little bit.

[Mona]

Some chicken wings, some variety.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Those are the two things I would say. One, adding at least one more donut.

[Joe Button]

I'm your mic mark.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I would say add at least one more donut. But also do the other influencer thing or the pop culture thing. Raise the price. Start selling $100 donuts. Have some elite fancy donut that make people feel like it's exclusive and just to draw up attention.

[Mona]

No cocktail.

[Ish]

Krispy Kreme, they expanded into the north. Up here, our expenses is way, way higher. Krispy Kreme don't really sell nothing that you got to go to every single day. The average person don't eat donuts every single day. And if you do eat donuts every day, you're gonna go where you could get your coffee with your donut. Dunkin Donuts makes the millions and millions and millions of dollars from coffee, not from donuts. They don't even want people to sell coffee. Not that I know, I don't know. But they not known for their coffee. Like I used to work for, for Subway back in the day. And a lot of the Subway franchisees owned Dunkin Donuts. They would hire other people to make their donuts. They didn't even want to make them. They just wanted to sell coffee. And that's where they real revenue came from. So everybody don't buy donuts every day. You know what I'm saying? Like you got gonna get a dozen of donuts every single day. So I don't see how they profitability is going to be sustainable. They tried a level of expansion or partnership anyway because there was a while you could, there were Krispy Kremes in McDonald's. Like they had started working with McDonald's and was selling them in McDonald's. Gotcha. But apparently it's not working.

[Mona]

You need to work with the gas station. Like doka donuts do. Like you go to a gas station sometimes it'll be a half do donuts, half Baskin Robbins. That makes sense. Kids are excited, oh, we can get a donut. You know what I mean? People run and go get it. But Krispy Kreme is something that came up here a little bit later and it's not as popular. But when I've ever seen Chris King line out the door, it was always more free giveaways. Like that's what they do, they give shit away.

[Joe Button]

What's going wrong? Failed partnerships, collaborations with McDonald's initially seen as a growth opportunity, ended due to unmanageable cost and operational challenges. Cyber security breach. A significant, A significant cyber attack disrupted online operations, leading to financial loss, losses and eroding consumer trust. Declining sales, operational restructuring. I don't know, I think Lego body that I think they need to go get with people that's gonna make Krispy Kreme like a daily item.

[Ish]

But then you got to offer more stuff. Starbucks, we'll start off with coffee. Now you could get a bagel, you could get a muffin, you could get cookies, you can get the, get a chicken sandwich now all of that, you know what I mean? Then they just expand, expanded the menu. If you don't eat pork we got vegan for us. Starbucks, you just gotta reach more people than just the fat that want to buy donuts every day. To your Lego point. Like Lego don't really have much competition on the block market. It's a good point. Starbucks you gotta deal with. I mean Krispy Kreme you got to deal with Dunkin Donuts, you got to deal with Starbucks who already got majority of the market share.

[Mona]

But Krispy Kreme creams, they be 24 hours. A lot of them, don't they? Or they have 24 hour Krispy Kremes, right?

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

We buy our Krispy Kreme from Wawa. Like, you see what I'm saying? You know the store down south.

[Ish]

Down south, Krispy Kreme was a thing. Like when I was in college, bro would sit and wait for the light to say fresh and hot.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

On the block. My. And that wears off. That wears off. That's not sustainable.

[Joe Button]

Sustainable. 4 billion to 600 million in four years. Sounds like a migraine. That sounds like real stress.

[Ish]

My last piece of advice would be hire a black CEO. Hey, he gonna put a see what Red Lobster did. He gonna put a seafood boil with the donuts.

[Mona]

And I disagree with that. I think that that was their thing and I think people did like that because how many places can you get warm donuts? And that's dope.

[Ish]

Yeah, it was dope. You got gonna go do that every day.

[Joe Button]

Day.

[Ish]

So you getting repeat buyers maybe once a week. Whereas go to Dunkin Donuts every single morning for the coffee, not for the donuts. They go to go to Dunkin' Donuts and don't even buy a donut. We lived in Dunkin' Donuts. We used to go over there and get no donuts.

[Joe Button]

Just coffee and hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Just coffee and birds. That's it.

[Ish]

Ain't lying.

[Joe Button]

Sorry. Krispy Kreme, that sounds like stress on a whole nother level. Talk about reasons to have some gratitude. You ain't waking up with that type of debt and headache to fix. I wonder somebody's stepping to them like, yo, fix this. Somebody's tasked with fixing this business. Shout out to the out there that's fixing failing businesses.

[Mona]

How long have they been open? Like how long Krispy Kreme been out?

[Joe Button]

Oh, I don't know. Let me ask. Chat GPT.

[Ish]

They've been open since I was in college. Because I was in college. They was open in Baltimore.

[Mona]

You write about that other. That's the first time I ever seen it On a college tour. And then it came up here and.

[Corey]

It was a huge.

[Ish]

In the morning and was going crazy over that.

[Mona]

Taste wise. I don't like it. Like, I never was a fan of it. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What else needs us? We couldn't help Krispy Kreme. Sorry.

[Corey]

We tried.

[Joe Button]

Sorry about that. Who else needs us out there? I want to shout out Ran and Pre. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. I want to shout out Ran and Pre. Got a project coming. Coming this month. Really excited about that. Shout out to Ran. He's been on X talking about how much of a dream it is and has been of his to work with Preen. Or if you're a real mc, then that's true for each and every one of us. Go Ran. Gopreen, man. And go Preen.

[Corey]

And the tape is fire.

[Joe Button]

Four decades later now, Word still being him. We don't celebrate that enough.

[Ish]

You work on it?

[Corey]

Yeah, mastered it.

[Ish]

Let's go, Parks.

[Mona]

Go ahead.

[Ish]

Oh, don't say that no more. Don't say that.

[Corey]

There's no other word to use.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

See, look out.

[Ish]

I engineered it.

[Mona]

Oh, man.

[Joe Button]

I don't have anything else. I don't have anything else here that absolutely needs our attention.

[Mona]

Cuz. Y' all didn't want to talk about Chris Jenner's faith with me. I think she looks amazing. It's a little spooky because she look her kid's age, but, like, for real. For real, them. Don't hang with them, Chris. Like, do your own thing for the next couple years. You look Good. You look 37. Go ahead. And she did good. Because sometimes people do the facelift, but the forget the neck. So the neck still give, like, wobbly turkey vibe.

[Ish]

Like she got the good one.

[Mona]

Nah, honey. Neck tight and all that.

[Ish]

Like they grip that from the Hulk Hogan string.

[Mona]

Yeah, she got staples all under her hairline. They swapped that. They tied that together.

[Joe Button]

Seen the same thing happen on Devil's Advocate. Speaking of devil worship, that wasn't no normal Botox. That wasn't gone.

[Mona]

I mean, it really looks good.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I love Devil's Advocate.

[Mona]

I mean, it looks. Have y' all seen it? No. Of course you've seen Devil's Advocate. Have you seen Chris's face?

[Ish]

Yeah, she does look good.

[Mona]

She look good lips and all. She still got that ball head with her your pop?

[Ish]

No, I'm in a committed relationship, so I don't.

[Joe Button]

And I think she does.

[Mona]

Damn, that's deep. If I'm married, I still want to ask. Be able to answer a question. Would you Such and such like, hell, yeah. If I wasn't married, I would. Morris Chestnut.

[Joe Button]

There you go.

[Ish]

Salute to you.

[Mona]

My husband better, like, understand that.

[Joe Button]

I don't think you can talk like that when you're married.

[Mona]

I'm just curious. Can I ask you a question? Is that why you lot of y' all do that? Cause a lot of y' all do that. Y' all do that. Cause when y' all go home, the be like, what the you say on that podcast today?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nah.

[Ish]

No, no.

[Corey]

It's honestly more about, like, the listeners making a big deal out of my wife.

[Joe Button]

Don't care.

[Mona]

Cause y' all so extra about it. It's like, I only look at my.

[Ish]

Wife'S titties, but when I was 8.

[Mona]

And I saw the neighbor's titties, they were nice. It's so corny. Do.

[Joe Button]

Do that.

[Mona]

No, this disrespect. I was curious. Cause your relationship comes first. Fuck whatever else. I was just curious.

[Ish]

You gotta do a Mona.

[Mona]

I don't have no nigga.

[Joe Button]

But if a nigga decided to be brave enough to claim you, you wouldn't wanna.

[Mona]

Don't say it like that.

[Joe Button]

You wouldn't wanna hear him on a podcast giving the list of all the other women that he would sleep with.

[Mona]

Joe, if somebody was blessed and lucky enough to have you.

[Joe Button]

Facts.

[Ish]

Talk that shit.

[Joe Button]

Facts.

[Mona]

Okay. Yes. But, yeah, I wouldn't give a. If he was on a podcast talking about what he would do. Like, who cares?

[Ish]

That's right.

[Joe Button]

It ain't about the girl.

[Mona]

Can I say something without.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no.

[Mona]

Having any offense? No offense to none of y'. All. But when you. When it say like that, when it acts like that, it almost gives. Like you've cheated so much that you can't do. You can't even sneeze in that house.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's typically the case.

[Ish]

That's not the case.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not my case.

[Ish]

And my.

[Joe Button]

That's normally the case up here.

[Ish]

Yeah, like, my peoples don't give about that.

[Mona]

Okay, I'm sorry. Let's move along. Y' all want to do that little thing? Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

They seen some titties when I was 8. If I start doing that, my girl gonna start a podcast, too. And now I don't think that's wise. I don't think that's the best. The best decision to make. And my girl listens to every second, millisecond and minute of the. This broadcast ain't an episode she missed.

[Mona]

Hey, pretty.

[Joe Button]

She won't get on the plane and just go to sleep. She going to look at the Patreons from last week. This week.

[Mona]

That's her real hair.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God. Y is annoying.

[Mona]

No tracks.

[Joe Button]

My girl don't miss episode. And next week she'll talk to me about one of the episodes that came out two weeks ago too and expect me to remember and have a fluid conversation about it.

[Mona]

So what she say?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What do you mean when you say that that happened?

[Joe Button]

Anna asked me what some of y'.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All mean, man, with some.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why such and such laughing so hard on this. On this top, my girl?

[Mona]

I don't never see me laughing. They don't me on none of the inside jokes, girl. I don't know what the going on in here.

[Ish]

It's all jokes.

[Joe Button]

And if you've been with somebody long enough, they should already be able to tell who you're. Who you wouldn't like. Why we got to have a long talk about it?

[Ish]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Why I got to say the name?

[Ish]

No, but if that's the case, then why would you not just be free enough to say it on the show?

[Mona]

Right?

[Joe Button]

Cuz that's the how. Because what's understood between you and your partner don't have to be broadcast to millions of people just because it's understood. All right, like that sounds crazy to me.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah. I disagree.

[Joe Button]

You don't disagree. Cause you don't do it.

[Ish]

That's not true. I've said who I would pop up here.

[Mona]

You still watch what you say, though.

[Ish]

You don't gotta be disrespectful for somebody to say, yo. If you find that person physically attractive. It's understood in my opinion that you. It's understood in my opinion that you are saying, if you were not in a relationship, would you have sex with such and such? And my answer would be yes, I would have sex with such and such or no, just have fun answering the question as nope, I'm in a community. You've done it. It's up here as well. It's times you've answered. I just. We just. Me and park just sat here and said we love watching sweetie videos. So you. There's a way to do it. I'm not going to sit here and say yes, I would pop her. You would say that. Unless it's Martha Stewart. Exactly. So we trying to knock Martha head off.

[Joe Button]

You think because he don't say I will pop sweetie that. That girls don't know that they. No, it's fine.

[Ish]

What are we talking about? Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

What we talking?

[Mona]

I'm sorry, let's move on.

[Joe Button]

They make everything so grumpy.

[Corey]

Yo, Joe, you start the.

[Joe Button]

Is the grumpiest.

[Corey]

Did you start that Ed Gein?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Corey]

You started the Ed Ge.

[Mona]

Oh, my God, Parks.

[Joe Button]

How is it weird?

[Mona]

He's the reason why I watched it. And it's. I hate it.

[Joe Button]

It's weird. Crazy.

[Mona]

I hate it.

[Joe Button]

It's weird. It's creepy. I doubt that most of America will be able to finish it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, he didn't.

[Joe Button]

He only killed a couple of people.

[Corey]

Yeah, he only killed two people.

[Joe Button]

From what?

[Ish]

Gory Like. Like what makes it weird?

[Corey]

He's hanging up dead bodies.

[Ish]

No, I've heard what he did and who he is, but I've seen a lot of people say, I had to cut this off. I couldn't finish watching this. Like, do they show a lot?

[Mona]

The character in him? Just himself, just how he acts, even down to his fucking voice. He's very soft spoken. So he's like, I'm. I, Mom. I just. It's just him alone is a freak.

[Corey]

He's a dude from Sun's Anarchy too, ain't it?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Corey]

It's the dude from Sons Anarchy. Which main dude?

[Mona]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Jackson?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, his voice is real soft. His mother's real strange. Just the whole setting is weird. Like, it's just. I don't like it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he take mama's boy to a new level.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Mona]

Oh, God.

[Joe Button]

And then one of the old ladies that he killed was a cool chink. Like, she was cool. She understood him, was cool with him cross dressing.

[Ish]

Evidently she did.

[Joe Button]

She took him back to the crib, rocked his world, gave him some when he didn't know what to do with it. And they acting like Corey. And then, and then, and then the mom lied and said the girl was a hoe and had all these diseases. Then he went back to her and cursed her out. It was so funny, I put it on my Instagram because it was too funny. It was too funny. But, yeah, he was just a weirdo. He didn't have to kill that lady.

[Ish]

Lady.

[Joe Button]

He didn't have to. All the dead bodies, he didn't have to. He learned sewing to soap skin on. Like, he was just nuts. I might not finish it.

[Mona]

Oh, wow, he's looking at pictures.

[Joe Button]

I might not finish it. I've seen him kill everybody he gonna kill. I'm. I'm. Cool down. You got it again. I've seen Psycho. I've seen Leatherface. I've seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Thank you for your contribution to horror movies. But you.

[Ish]

I ain't gotta watch you.

[Joe Button]

He was nuts.

[Corey]

I just saw the trailer. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna watch this one. Once you start wearing people's skin. I'm cool, dog.

[Mona]

Like, it's set back in like Germany like the nword time or whatever. And he see the other nword and he sees pictures of survivors from the holocaust or people that have passed away in during the holocaust and he's like damn near sexually excited from the pictures of the bodies. Like, he is such a freak, bro.

[Corey]

Yeah, I'm cool.

[Mona]

His haircut, like, got it. And the mom, the mom is Darlene from roseanne. They got her ugliest on there. Damn. They Darlene up.

[Joe Button]

Darlene.

[Mona]

I'm always going to see her like that with them big ass jaws.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Mona]

Darlene butt beat up. She busted. She don't look like she looked on Roseanne.

[Ish]

Roseanne was 30 years ago. Listen, you talking about Darlene is darn long.

[Joe Button]

She's out of here, dog.

[Mona]

Nah, she doesn't Wait.

[Joe Button]

The mother is Darlene from Rosa Gilbert.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sarah Gilbert.

[Joe Button]

Get the out of here.

[Mona]

Think about it. That's Darlene.

[Joe Button]

You're serious?

[Mona]

I'm dead serious.

[Joe Button]

She do look like her.

[Mona]

That's Darlene.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, Darlene. Yeah. No, I'm on task.

[Ish]

I'm done. Have you seen the have you seen the Roseanne daughter?

[Corey]

Task was fired this week.

[Mona]

No, I haven't.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Mona]

Why? What? Is that a good thing?

[Joe Button]

No, it's cool. Cool.

[Ish]

She looked like Darlene too.

[Mona]

I look it up.

[Joe Button]

I did not see task.

[Ish]

I heard task.

[Joe Button]

I'm saving it. My girl's coming.

[Corey]

Oh, okay. Yeah, you gotcha.

[Joe Button]

Got to do that cliffhanger.

[Corey]

They cliffhanger. They cliff hung as a pedali. No. It felt like it might be for a minute but then they. They cliffhanged.

[Ish]

Got it. Okay.

[Joe Button]

While we on show, shout out to Vince tables.

[Corey]

It's coming back.

[Joe Button]

The preview for season two of the Vince staples show is bike. We are happy about that. The trailer looks phenomenal. November, right?

[Corey]

November. I want to say seventh or something like that.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. I didn't up here.

[Corey]

We'll be watching.

[Ish]

He's been up here a million times.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he's. He's been up here and I ain't.

[Mona]

Know, you know, I seen Omarion was up here. I would have liked to see the sing touch.

[Joe Button]

Ain't nobody call me got single or something featured today.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Ish]

November 6th.

[Corey]

November 6th.

[Joe Button]

You gonna sing a little something for.

[Mona]

For but I don't Know the words to Amani songs like I know Omari.

[Joe Button]

Just mouth along. Just mouth along.

[Ish]

And it's six episodes.

[Mona]

Some Cisco, some Drew Hill.

[Joe Button]

And do the dance moves. Yes, and do the dance moves. How many episodes? Six. Wait, how many are in the season six of task?

[Ish]

Oh, no. We talking about Vince Staple show, not.

[Joe Button]

Oh, goddamn it, Tax.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know.

[Corey]

This is episode five. I feel like it's coming towards the close. I could be wrong. They might try to stretch it, but it feels like we're knocking at the door. Let me see if they tell you what the order is.

[Ish]

Yes, I'm trying to see now.

[Joe Button]

It don't matter. I'm watch seven.

[Ish]

Seven episodes.

[Corey]

All right, two more. That makes sense. That, that, that, that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You said his luck is closing up.

[Corey]

It felt like it, yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right, good. Well, I am going to check that out. Go task.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

God damn it. And it was a movie coming out that I thought I wanted to see, but my memory is bad, so it's fine. What else?

[Corey]

I think we may have hit it all day, Joe.

[Mona]

I think we may have hit it all today, Mr. Joe. I think we do to get up.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Ish]

Yo, what's wrong with you, you son?

[Mona]

I think so. We didn't pot it enough. Mr. Joe Eyes. I think we hit every topic we could hit. Mr. Joe, are you sick? Mr. Joe? You got a cold?

[Ish]

Weed. We sick of?

[Mona]

He's a sick of Mr. Joe.

[Joe Button]

All right, let me see if this guy needs our helping part of the show here. Let's see here. Reading this for the first time with y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

So he might be stressed out. Let's see. Mr. Nobody says since birth I was raised by my grandma mother. When born, she took me straight from the hospital. I never got the chance to have a regular childhood. I always felt things were different even as a child. All the other kids mothers looked young compared to mine. Mine had gray hair. Of course, their moms didn't. I was brought up to call my birth mother by her name and acknowledge her as my sister and my uncle and aunt as my brother and sister as well. For the first seven years of my life, I was living that way. Until I was told the truth at eight by my real siblings.

[Ish]

I hate when this.

[Joe Button]

I hate when real siblings do that. Holding the truth down since then, it messed me up mentally. Until this day. I'm now 35. I still have trouble dealing with calling my birth mother mom and my grandmother mom. So much so that I don't know who to call mom. And when both of them are in the same room without making one of them feel some type of way. I hold resentment toward both for me having to live like that. How do I navigate through this situation as an adult ready to tackle this well needed conversation with both of them without hurting anyone's feelings. Because I no longer want to carry on with this trauma any further.

[Corey]

I'm gonna keep it real. I think you need to go talk to a professional.

[Ish]

Yeah, I was just gonna say this.

[Corey]

Is not the very you for that.

[Mona]

Yeah, I can fix it for you.

[Corey]

That sounds like some.

[Joe Button]

You need you.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The only thing I would say is you didn't create this, so you shouldn't be carrying the burden of this. I agree with the.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The therapy part, Professional help part. Whatever you ch. Whatever choice you make is yours. You know you didn't do this. Don't take any blame for it. Don't hold any shame because of the choices that grown people made when you had nothing to do about.

[Corey]

Also, it might not. It might be a good reason why all that happened. You know what I mean? Like, it may have been for the better for you, whether you know it or not. So don't hold them necessarily to the. To the fire either.

[Mona]

But that's the thing. Some people that lie is like, worse than. It's just. My mother found out who her father was when she was 13 and. And her father was somebody that was like, from the neighborhood. So it was like, oh, Mr. Tim, is your father the same grandmother? I sat up here and said, I don't fuck with. She. She's been a fucked up person. She lied to them. She raised my mother and her sister to believe that their brother's dad was the dad. As soon as he turned into it, like she broke up with him, she was like, that ain't your dad anyway. So it's like the same ain't happened to me, right? And that's the thing, like when you lie like that, you never could tell the truth in the right way. It's never a time to gauge when to tell this kid. 8, 10, 12. And you can't control the whole family. Somebody gonna give it up. So that's why you just shouldn't lie. You know what I mean? It's the same. The same respect you would have for this person that's raising you that's not blood related to you. You know what I mean? It's no point now. I will say back in the day, things was done differently or whatever, but a lie is a lie is a lie. I've Been super honest with my kids because I grew up with a hurt mom because somebody lied to her when she was a kid. Like, she never got over it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I can dig it.

[Mona]

Never let it go.

[Joe Button]

Every time you share on, like, one of these family topics, I just be wanting to hug you.

[Mona]

You know, like, I need. You know what?

[Joe Button]

It turned out all right for you still.

[Mona]

And you know what's crazy? Hug. Yes. Gifts.

[Joe Button]

Better.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay.

[Mona]

Cuz that's like. You can write it off. You feel me?

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Corey]

That's good financial advice.

[Joe Button]

Thank you for that. Yeah. I'm with Parks. Real therapy, bro. This is. This is above my.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Above my pay grade. This sounds. This sound like some deep rooted trauma. Yeah.

[Corey]

And it's okay to do that. Like, you know, we talk so much about stigmatization of stick. Whatever the word is of mental health. Like, go talk to a professional. This is. This is probably deeper than asking the homies about.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, agreed.

[Joe Button]

If it's me, though, I'm calling my mom's her real, real name or my sister name, whatever it was for the rest of life. Hey, Jackie. Whatever. Whatever mom name is. Sorry. That's what it is now. And I'll just joke. I'mma joke through the pain.

[Mona]

I'm.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to joke through that pain. Hey, Sicily. Sicily it is. Hey, grand mom's mom. And I'm with whatever one of them. Whatever the new account said. If grandma did that from birth, I'm assuming that moms was in a predicament to where it was a reason.

[Ish]

That's why I'm not really. It's not that uncommon.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mona]

It's very common.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Especially.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Especially in the South.

[Mona]

Very calm.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Super common.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

But he. And then you also put yourself first because when he says. When he says. I don't know who to call. What. When I'm in a room with them. That's putting them first. Like how they feel.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Calling me grandmother to respect. Call me mother. Respect that. How do you feel? Like Mr. Joe said. You want to call that Edith? Call her Edith.

[Ish]

That Mr. Joe.

[Joe Button]

My heart goes out to you, buddy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Indeed.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But. Yeah. It's real therapist time. It's real therapist time.

[Ish]

Agreed.

[Joe Button]

All right. I think we did it, you guys. I think we did it. I know. Y. Y' all look ready to tackle 900 more topics. Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Joe Button]

All right. I got it.

[Mona]

We start doing this in shifts. You know what I mean? We can't give them for Theon all day. I. We got the reverse.

[Ish]

Got. Got to Slow it down a little bit.

[Mona]

I got to slow walk these. This is getting crazy. Telling you there clips everywhere. People calling me and this getting crazy. They in the barbershop talking about him. Say he a drug dealer. Oh, that's what they said. They said, I promise you. They kept saying no, cuz the high yellow up there, you. He was a trapper. He's a trapper. I said, what Eman?

[Joe Button]

It's a few high yellow up here.

[Mona]

I just said, man, eat sings. They said, no, that other. I said, I smelt that felon on you. I thought I smelled it.

[Ish]

See wrong, smell wrong.

[Mona]

No disrespect.

[Ish]

I smelled the feeling on you. No disrespect.

[Mona]

This my slow motion for me.

[Ish]

Slow motion motion for me. Moving slow motion for me. I like it like that. She working that back. I don't know how to act.

[Joe Button]

Yes, sir. What y' all on this weekend? What's everybody doing this weekend? Everybody doing this weekend? Everybody doing this weekend?

[Corey]

Saving my energy for next weekend.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the big birthday birthday party. Birthday.

[Ish]

I got a couple birthday parties I'm going to. One Saturday and one. No, two Saturday. One Sunday.

[Corey]

Kids or adults?

[Ish]

Adults. All adults.

[Mona]

I'm hanging out with my famous friend. We're gonna go to a fight because we're both huge boxing fans. So we're going to watch the boots fight.

[Corey]

Oh, boots. Fighting boots is tough.

[Mona]

Yes, I like boxing. That's the only sport I like. So let's start talking about fights.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Ish]

All right, say less.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't got nothing going on. Just chilling at the crib, right?

[Ish]

Some lettuce.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah.

[Ish]

He only shot seven people was wrong.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, like I got the world. Keep us in your prayers, man. Lord knows we need to be there. Till the next time we bid you a do farewell Adios, arriva, dir, hasta la vista, arvois so long goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Yeah, I can't wait for that verse. New Joe Buddy. You've never heard of Joe Buddy?

[Mona]

Jbp. Where would you be without the jvp?