Episode 871 | "Vehemently Disagreeing…."

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 871 | "Vehemently Disagreeing…."

Release Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Joe Budden
Co-Hosts/Regulars: Ice, Ish, Parks, Mark Lamont Hill, Flip, Mona (“Don’t Call Me White Girl”)
Produced by: The Joe Budden Network

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Brief Overview

Episode 871 sees Joe Budden and his eclectic crew diving deep into friendship dynamics, relationship pride, mental health in hip-hop, pop culture, and the messy overlap of celebrity and social media. There is lively banter about family, handling disagreements with loved ones, the weirdness of internet and delivery culture, and thoughtful discussions about recent news events (including the J.Lo "never loved" controversy, Tyler the Creator's old tweets, and an audacious heist at the Louvre). The episode is full of their signature humor, inside jokes, and real vulnerability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions & Vibes (00:48–10:00)

• The crew jokes about their matching “Orange Memo” outfits and playfully roast each other's style.
• Discussion on turning 50, making fashion choices, and the resurgence of New Balance as a “jiggy dad” brand.
• Memorable moment: Joe threatens to walk out if anyone’s wearing New Balance boxer briefs.

  “If you got New Balance boxer briefs on, I will walk smooth out this podcast.” — Joe (03:26)

2. Bike Lanes and City Frustrations (05:11–08:10)

• Joe rants about new bike lanes in the city, mixed feelings about city infrastructure, and annoying aggressive cyclists.

  "Sometimes it would feel so good to hit one of them dudes... I wanted to write the mayor. And then I was like, damn, come on, Joe. Check yourself." (05:52)

3. Social Media Presence & Relationship Disappearances (09:00–10:00)

• The crew teases each other about going “ghost” in the first few months of new relationships.
• Mona pushes back: “We acknowledge that you're in a relationship. But you just do slick shit to get outside.” (09:38)

4. The Power of Contracts & Creative Flexibility (24:37–33:03)

• Discussion on the tension between short-term and long-term deals in creative industries.
• Mark shares his experience with BET: "I had a one year deal with BET for 12 years...Every six months was negotiation time." (27:01)
• They debate whether it’s possible (or even expected) to maintain or exceed performance over a multi-year contract.

5. Pride, Partnership, & Relationship “Vehement Disagreement” (39:50–47:58)

• Joe and Parks reveal they both brought “beef” with their partners to Parks’ birthday party, describing how hard it can be to “fake it” in public.

  "We vehemently disagree about a topic that we're both passionate about. Now we're at my man's birthday party in the thick of it, boy." — Joe (41:12)

• Candid talk about cuddling/making up after arguments, holding grudges, and navigating pride dynamics in relationships.

  "I'm tighter…And it's totally my fault." — Joe (44:10)

6. Social Media Sneakiness, “Finstas,” and Instagram Drama (45:23–47:40)

• The group gets into using fake profiles (“Finstas”) to watch IG Lives without being noticed, and the shame/fear of being “caught” watching messy content.

7. Ashanti Body-shaming Discourse (52:10–53:55)

• They question if social media’s “body positivity” narrative mirrors reality. The consensus: Ashanti looks great, and the internet was looking for a fight where none existed.

8. Trump Pardons & Would You “Play Ball”? (54:05–59:05)

• Trump’s rumored plans to pardon Diddy spark debate: Would any of them publicly support Trump to get out of prison early?

  “For 60 months? Not for 60 months, it ain’t.” — Mona (55:13) “Y’all niggas crazy. I will get up out that bitch, act like this is Faith singing in the rain. I changed my last name to Trump.” — Ice (55:43)

• The group splits on choosing between “doing time” and sacrificing personal/family ethics for public embarrassment.

9. The Politics of Critique: Kids in the Spotlight (99:23–103:14)

• They hash out if it’s fair to critique a celebrity’s child (i.e., LeBron’s son), agreeing it crosses a line if used as a proxy for beef with the parent.

  “Don’t use my son to shoot at me...I think that's corny.” — Joe (102:54)

10. Russell Westbrook, LeBron, and NBA Authenticity (103:14–106:59)

• They reflect on reports that Russell Westbrook viewed LeBron as “inauthentic” — does brand management mean someone’s fake?

11. Vulnerability and Mental Health in Hip-Hop: Gucci Mane & Keisha (77:40–85:20)

• They praise Gucci Mane and his partner for transparency around managing mental illness (schizophrenia) in their relationship, describing it as a model of real partnership even in a high-profile life.

  “When a man that’s rich exhibits that level of vulnerability with his wife? I think that shit is fire.” — Ice (80:32)

12. Delivery App Wildness: The DoorDash “Naked Man” Story (130:38–141:21)

• Recap of a viral story: A DoorDash driver posted footage of a naked customer, claiming harassment, but lost her account for posting the footage (and his info) online.
• They debate consent, privacy, and the pressure to monetize every incident on social media.

  “That's where the other problem is today. It's run straight to the Internet...Not running to the Internet to expose what you saw.” — Ice (138:50)

13. Nuisance Neighbors & “The Perfect Neighbor” Doc (146:08–151:56)

• Reactions to the new Netflix doc about AJ Owens — a Black woman killed by a white neighbor.
• Calls for a public “shitty neighbor registry,” and stories about conflict with strange or aggressive neighbors.

14. Culture, Hygiene, & Halloween Traditions (117:58–124:34)

• Intense, funny dialogue on why some on the panel hate trick-or-treating — “It’s disgusting, it’s dangerous, it’s demonic.”
• Side discussion on cultural differences in cleanliness, notably between Black and white families.

15. Fixing Boston Market and the Death of the Mall (170:09–174:46)

• The crew brainstorms how to save Boston Market (take “Boston” off; rebrand for family), and muses on the mall’s demise — should some businesses simply be let go?

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On old relationships:
  “We've been broke up 25 years, Aki. Get over it.” — Ice (66:30), about J.Lo’s exes still speaking out.

• On pride and relationships:
  “I let the whole building burn down. I operate better in the burning building than you do.” — Joe (87:49)

• On supporting your partner with mental illness:
  “If I'm falling off the ledge, I'm going to submit to you to do everything you think is good for us and myself.” — Ice (80:42)

• On trick-or-treating:
  “The whole country just shut down because [people] won’t wash their hands. Now y’all want my kids to knock on strangers’ doors?” — Mona (119:10)

• Joe on kids’ play spaces:
  “I am judging my kid for going to Kids Empire without another kid friend and having fun.” — Joe (125:14)

• On the Louvre heist:
  “France…you robbed everybody to get everything in there.” — Mark (164:54)

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Important Timestamps

• [24:37–33:03] — Deep dive on contract length, loyalty, and creator anxiety
• [39:50–47:58] — The “vehement disagreement” about relationships and pride
• [52:10–53:55] — The Ashanti body-shaming episode
• [54:05–59:05] — Trump, pardons, and how far you’d go to get out of jail
• [77:40–85:20] — Gucci Mane & Keisha — mental health, marriage, and true partnership
• [146:08–151:56] — Review of 'The Perfect Neighbor' doc & discussion about neighbor disputes
• [130:38–141:21] — The DoorDash story, privacy, and posting for clout

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Tone & Language

The conversation is raw, casual, and irreverent, often explicit but occasionally deeply insightful or emotional. There’s a constant current of friendly roasting, but whenever the tone dips into heavier territory — be it about relationships, death, or injustice — the crew manages to be reflective and sometimes profound while never losing their sense of humor.

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Episode Takeaways

• Long-term relationships (at work and at home) require flexibility, transparency, and self-awareness about pride.
• Criticizing people — especially public figures’ families — is a line that matters, and can reveal deeper resentments.
• In hip-hop, openness about mental health is rare and highly valued by the group.
• Social media culture (and the urge to monetize everyday drama) is seen as both ridiculous and harmful.
• The internet loves to look for outrage, even when everyone is happy (see: Ashanti).
• Neighborhood beef and cultural divides — whether about hygiene, holidays, or property lines — are both hilarious and genuinely dangerous at times.
• The hustle to “save” failing institutions (like Boston Market or malls) rarely considers whether they’re really worth saving.

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For listeners who missed the episode:
This was a classic JBP episode — packed with jokes, passionate arguments, occasional reflection, and the organic chemistry that makes this crew unique. Whether debating whether to support Trump for a pardon, whether we ever really outgrow old beef, how soon you should apologize, or what defines a “good neighbor,” the team covers the serious, the silly, and everything in between.

Skip time? Anytime they get distracted by technical production, inside jokes, or mark the ad reads — main content resumes quickly.

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart, or our own. Enjoy the show. See where it goes. Let's see where it goes. Put those phones away. Hey, let's put those phones away. Hey, put those phones away.

[B]

I see your phone. Let's put those phones away.

[A]

Restarting.

[B]

Put those phones away. I see your phone. Now put those phones away.

[A]

All right.

[C]

No, I thought we were performing this.

[A]

No side conversation. No side conversation. Are we started? Yeah, we always start.

[C]

Need a rhythm section, man.

[A]

Good.

[D]

What's good, homie?

[A]

Good to see you, brothers. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling?

[B]

What's popping?

[A]

What's popping with y'? All?

[C]

I'm sad I missed the Orange Memo.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know how that happened.

[A]

Who wore it better?

[B]

I don't know how that happened. You know?

[A]

Yeah, we spoke about it last a little better. No, we didn't.

[B]

Man, don't do that.

[A]

Yo, what you doing, yo?

[B]

Yeah, I'mma throw that orange on ice wins, cuz.

[A]

He switched up the watch band on him and he got the Re Rebok pumps on.

[B]

Yeah, take it back to the pumps.

[A]

Come on, man. I'm giving it the ice.

[B]

I'll take it back to the pumps.

[A]

I'm giving it the freeze.

[C]

The rugby's nice, but the pumps, do they do something?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Look at this. What you up to, man?

[E]

You know what he is.

[B]

You know, you know, you know.

[E]

Come on now.

[A]

We can tell by your outfits what you got. Yeah, we don't even got to talk to you. 50 year old ass.

[B]

I'll tell you right there.

[A]

He don't even know how to fake it out no more. Yeah, Walk out the door looking like what the night about to be.

[B]

At 10am I'm going home.

[A]

You're not going home.

[B]

He'll get there.

[A]

You didn't wear those New Balances to go home tonight.

[B]

He'll get home.

[A]

Oh, at some point.

[B]

Yeah, at some point, you got a New Balance sponsor.

[E]

You just need. Yeah, you thought I ain't catch on. You got a lot of New Balance from the top to the bottom.

[A]

New Balance is old, nigga. Jiggy. New Balance is old Jiggy. It came back so you still look fresh. I see what you're doing. I see what you're doing.

[B]

Now I support you. I'm ignoring you.

[A]

First off, now the T shirts he gotta update.

[E]

No, no, no.

[A]

That's weird. That's where you show his age.

[E]

No, he forgot that when he walked out the house, he forgot. He forgot to change it into the new pack. He had to let white. He had to let wifey see him leave like that.

[C]

I think that's a New Balance T shirt too. Is this new? Oh, no.

[A]

Wait.

[F]

Oh, no.

[B]

Oh, no, that's old.

[A]

New Balance head to toe.

[D]

They got the new battle socks and.

[E]

Everything you gotta sponsor put on.

[C]

Yo.

[A]

All right, don't hyper focus on this. Leave this alone, man.

[B]

I would appreciate that, but how can.

[D]

We leave a niche alone?

[C]

Yes.

[E]

When he come like that, he definitely.

[B]

Has new balance at 1000%.

[A]

If you got New Balance boxer briefs on, I'll walk the out. I will walk smooth out this podcast. If you got New Balance boxer be. And I won't talk to you no more. So I'm just gonna think that that ain't.

[D]

That ain't happening.

[A]

That ain't happening.

[B]

Why would you just not be happy? Oh, he got a New Balance deal.

[C]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Do you have New Balance deals on? Ish.

[B]

No, I'm happy for you.

[A]

But if they paid you, you'll wear them all day. Okay.

[B]

Which means he has some more.

[A]

You talk about even if they made, like, your nuts uncomfortable.

[B]

Yeah, you damn right.

[A]

Ever go in a box? Boxer, boxer, brief drawer, Grab your wrong pair, you get your period draws at the end of the watch, you grab that wrong pin like, oh, yo.

[D]

What?

[A]

I don't like how these shits is making my nuts.

[B]

Nah, I'm damn near there. Like, yo, I'm doing work in my house, and I can't really get to, like, it's sectioned off, Joe.

[F]

Not on here, sir.

[A]

Hello?

[F]

Hey, good morning, Joe. Hey, good morning. How did you get in?

[A]

Hey, new hire.

[F]

Stop, please. How did you get in here, though, Joe?

[A]

What do you mean? How we get to the left?

[F]

It's construction in the front, so there's another entrance.

[A]

Do you see the McDonald's? What?

[F]

Hi, Joe.

[A]

Are you. Are you.

[B]

Oh, man.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

This is a fool.

[A]

Yo, yo, Wait, you're not buying a McDonald's. Oh, where are you, girl? Oh, my God. Holy. Oh, man, I'm crying.

[B]

Let's see the X sign on the corner.

[E]

Make them laugh.

[A]

Yo, and. And maybe a bad time to play elitist.

[B]

Can't play elitist, Joe. Not after the week we've had.

[E]

You can't play.

[A]

It's a Bad time to play elitist. But wait, what? I'm sticking with what got us the number one, so here it is. Oh, man. Yo, I am so mad that they are installing bike lanes out there.

[B]

I ain't gonna hold you. Yo, that shit is. That shit's gonna be annoying as my nigga.

[D]

Them shits is wide as hell.

[B]

I thought that was a bustling. A tractor lane. Like, yo, I thought the Rough Riders was gonn.

[A]

I put on the three wheelers. The four wheelers. Yes, bro.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought DNY was coming over.

[B]

That ain't no bike lane. That ain't no bike lane. That shit is a fucking.

[A]

I wanted to write the mayor. I want to write somebody. And then I was like, damn, that's. Come on, Joe. Check yourself. Like, it was a check yourself moment.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

You know what time it is. They building all these buildings. The biker people, the city bike people, the people that want to commute.

[B]

New Yorkers don't be having cars.

[A]

Yeah. You know, New Yorkers are bums. You know, they ain't got no fucking cars, so now they want to bike everywhere over here.

[C]

I wish they didn't. No parking where I'm at. Yeah, well, I wish there was more biking.

[B]

Told you. Come on over. That's all you gotta do. I already called the governor. I told him you my man.

[C]

And you appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[A]

Got you. Biker lanes is funny. Bikers in New Jersey are funny because on Sundays, if you got somewhere to go in the morning or the afternoon, the bikers think that if you collide with them, they could win.

[E]

They will.

[C]

The lawsuit.

[B]

No, no. They're gonna sue your socks off.

[A]

Oh, I put some money to the side, man, for them. I would put. Sometimes it would feel so good to hit one of them dudes.

[E]

Like, they drive fast down the lane.

[A]

They drive real fast down my man in Harlem with that bike that I hit. That was a hit and run, though. So you can. What he was gonna do.

[D]

I got out of there. Yeah, it's crazy.

[A]

You have to catch me if I do it. Sorry.

[B]

I smacked the in Saitama.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Come on, y' all. Never hit nobody on a bike with a car that I hit. Swore he was going somewhere. He had some food, too. Delivering it.

[F]

Boom.

[A]

Right smack the St. Thomas. Yeah, man.

[D]

Well, yeah, I can.

[A]

Them biker dudes be aggressive.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Y. They do.

[E]

They do.

[B]

They think they own hilarious.

[A]

And that's the thing. If they are doing some type of marathon in front of me and I'm speeding up, is it wise to break you could break. I know the Jersey law. Hey, you gotta act like a car and be on the. Share the rules. But is it wise? Like, if I said fuck the law, you know? But I would never. I would never.

[F]

Nah.

[D]

Nah.

[A]

Anyway, man, we got a great show lined up for you guys today.

[C]

As always.

[A]

Got a great show lined up for you guys today.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

Oh, man.

[E]

At least try to help shorty get in.

[D]

Help Mona get in, man, she's calling me right now.

[A]

Corey, man, take my phone and hear. Call Mona, man, so she could get in.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The hell is wrong with Corey? Just standing there making coffee or some texting his new little boot thing?

[E]

Yeah, you could tell with Corey, like, he got the jeans on. He just threw on.

[A]

Corey. One of them dudes you got, you know, you got some dudes you got to stop being fly with. When they enter somebody, it's like, all right, you about to be one of those. You about to be that.

[B]

Yo, that should be annoying as hell.

[E]

Yo, you got the community in the uproar, man.

[A]

Who, me?

[B]

Yo, you kind of do that on the low.

[A]

Do what? Wait, what?

[B]

The first two months, you kind of disappear.

[E]

Yo, as far as fashion wise, no.

[B]

It'S been a long time. But the first two months, you get something, you be. You be 25 hours, I lock in. You mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

It's a long time. Yo, yo, you all right, man?

[E]

Is in a whole relationship.

[B]

My man.

[E]

Like, you talking like that. He in a whole relationship, boy, we.

[D]

Came to play with you like that. Look what you're doing.

[B]

Who don't play with me. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[E]

We don't though, boy.

[D]

We.

[E]

We acknowledge that you're in a relationship.

[D]

But you just do slick shit to get outside.

[E]

But we not saying. Yo, you locking in with other people.

[B]

You definitely don't want to open that with me.

[A]

Apologize.

[D]

As a matter of fact, here we go again.

[A]

Apologize.

[E]

You know, I just had a meeting. Apologize. I just had a meeting yesterday.

[C]

That's your business.

[E]

Apologize to that.

[A]

Not to them. To me. Wrong with you.

[D]

Y ridiculous.

[A]

I promise you, we got a great show lined up for you guys today. Don't touch that, D. Really cool.

[B]

I ain't never ran from my knee, all right, cuz?

[A]

My legs out right now.

[B]

I ain't never been with the whole talk Fish talk. Always talking about his. Yeah, I'm a stand up. Got my bands up. You don't want to see me.

[A]

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from is going on out There ever, ever.

[B]

I never ever ever go against my kind for some Shout out to the.

[A]

Whole Jersey, whole New York City Put.

[B]

A for the money got to get it when it come to mind.

[A]

Lately I feel like it's me Always for the ladies, always for the ladies. Don't even got to be woke still.

[B]

Going to be up how I make a B in my sleep.

[A]

Shout to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to all the sub groups to the patch.

[B]

Way too pretty to be from the.

[A]

Money Then smoke me a plant.

[D]

If.

[B]

You a side, you cannot question me. You did some foul, you threw a tech at me.

[A]

Cook it up right there then gave me the recipe.

[B]

I'm in a Z6, police ain't catching me. I'm still ducking this assessment cuz I'm the up like the coach in the seven body double our truck. I got bow with me hogging up lane and they can't get close.

[A]

What you know about that is I like them. Money Bag. What? Where the hell is Money Bag? He be talking that freeze is wherever you might be listening from. What up, what up, what up, what up? Shout out to the Ivy League educators when they do it.

[B]

It's a woman would not do it. Birds of a fellow. What they flock together. They make you a sucker. I don't with nobody. No, no, if you ain't mon, I'm coming up with some money.

[D]

You know what I'm always.

[A]

You know, South Carolina, North Carolina, what's good? Everybody in college right now. What up, what up?

[B]

I signed my own chick.

[A]

Better stay in your lane. Your little bit broken. Yes sir.

[B]

They left me. They regret what they said, but I don't accept. I don't. They claiming he body the whole time it was somebody real back. He be speaking his mind. That boy was the he rap niggas beautiful. They be ready to kill you over a hold up. I come around, go put their hoe.

[A]

Up, ask the question this up and roll up.

[B]

She eat addicted, she throw up. He tried to teach me to blow.

[A]

Up all the dope boys, all the good money out there.

[B]

I'm hearing the SNCC so nothing but big you can get stuck with them. Draco was under me, that in my lap. Now come and get him. You think I ain't no point. Run up if you want. Shoot this through the window.

[D]

Stop playing with me, man.

[F]

Good morning. Thank you.

[A]

Wake it up out there, wake it up out there. We in the fourth quarter you thought was going on.

[B]

Pig and ring full of cryptos, baby. Out every building, come and take a picture, baby. Y' all nigga popping shit. You know I'm that baby. Wrist piece on Bling Blow neck piece on Blizzard, baby, I throw some ones, baby. You do that dance on me, baby. I throw a thousand more. Keeps shaking that ass on me. Young nigga.

[C]

You ain't got nothing dope in this serato.

[B]

Off white fit.

[F]

It took a lot of grinding just.

[B]

To talk this shit.

[A]

I'm tight.

[C]

You ain't got the heat in your serrado.

[A]

Oh, there we go, there we go, there we go. Don't ever play with me. Don't ever play with your butt.

[B]

Man.

[A]

I was missing something I was looking for. I was missing something I was looking for. Let my girl Mona get in the back. Philadelphia, what up out there? Hey, y', all, what up out there?

[B]

I throw some ones, baby. You do that dance on me.

[A]

Mona, you good?

[F]

I'm great.

[A]

Good. Good to see you.

[F]

Good to see you.

[B]

I got IR whole New Orleans.

[A]

What's going on out there? Bang, bang, bang. You know what time it is.

[B]

Wake it. You want.

[A]

Stop playing with me, man. Boom.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's about that time. It's about that time, y', all, for sure.

[A]

Time for the best broadcast in the universe with the best cast in the universe. Stop playing with me, man. Stop playing. We do a lot of playing, but not today. I mean, play with some that's gonna play back. Paus got Philadelphia in the building. Stay potpity. Huh? Stay potpity.

[D]

I'm so corny.

[A]

I don't care about those. I don't care. I sit home and think of this stuff.

[F]

You could at least play something, Joe.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Y' all ain't gonna join.

[F]

So who state property is. I'm free.

[A]

You a mark, Mark.

[F]

Ain't none of this state property facts, right? Mark.

[A]

And Flip and Mona.

[F]

All right, that's no substitution. Mark Drop is too good for just. And Flip and Mona. We have to fix that.

[A]

We gonna get you a drop. We gonna get you a drop.

[F]

I need one.

[A]

And we gonna get Flip a drop. I mean, now that.

[F]

Oh, you look nice.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

Not at one.

[A]

I can't say it, but, you know, I mean. Hey, hey, you look at me.

[B]

That same downstairs, he put his hand.

[E]

Up like this to me.

[A]

We're gonna get a drop for Flip. We're gonna get a drop for Big Moment. Look at Big Moment in the building. I'm so happy to see each and every one of y' all parks. What episode is this?

[C]

This is 871.

[A]

Welcome to episode 871 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fuel by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. Yo, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Whole host, really happy to have this amazing crew here to my right. Stop playing with her, man. Don't call me White girl in the flesh. Big Mona. Big Mona.

[F]

What's up, y'? All?

[A]

We good. We missed you, Mona.

[F]

Really?

[D]

Yes, we did.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Yeah, we did, girl.

[F]

Next time, send flowers, all right?

[A]

Next to Ona. We still waiting on Mac and cheese, too.

[F]

I got y'. All.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Next to Mona. Queens get the money. Y' all know the vibes. Big queen flip in the building.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Next to him. Come on, man. Stop playing with him. Looking bad with a bankroll. Stop playing.

[B]

Bankroll in his pocket.

[A]

It'll drop it if he's good, It'll drop it on the floor. Rubber band man. Wild is the Taliban line in my big ish. Mr. New Balance is over the building. Next to him, the freeziest of them all. Mr. Take it further. Our good brother Ice is here, here. Head of the silent nation, you know what I mean?

[B]

We won't talk about it, but what's.

[A]

Understood don't need to be said next to him. Oh, man. Huh? Mr. I League he'll miss. Spellman himself was outside this weekend, too, huh? Big educator vibes. Big home away from home. A Professor Mark Lamirel in the building. Yes, sir. Park's here. King Elmira, the fucking birthday boy here. Big Park.

[C]

Birthdays are a lot of work, man.

[A]

Don't tell me about it. Tell me about it.

[B]

Yo, when you go back home, they.

[C]

Treat you like celebrity, like family.

[F]

Happy birthday, parts.

[C]

Thank you.

[E]

Great guys. Great guy.

[A]

Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here, and we're happy to be here, man.

[D]

What's poppin? What's poppin?

[A]

What's poppin? What's good, man?

[D]

What's good?

[A]

Y' all looking good. Y' all smelling good. Got some cologne on. Perfume. I like it. I like it.

[B]

She's doing, though.

[A]

And the weekends is tough to get a hair appointment. Like the weekend sometimes if you don't get it in on like a Wednesday or Thursday.

[F]

Every black woman.

[A]

That don't be want.

[F]

To squeeze you in got to say something.

[A]

Don't try to.

[F]

Don't try to.

[E]

Big up and shoot.

[F]

Listen, I said to myself, every black woman listening or watching before I wore this hair. That's mine up here, talk about it. If anybody gonna say something about this here, it's gonna be Joe Button, right? And the crazy thing about it is, I was at a sneaker store last week, and I got into this big fight with this guy. Cause he called you the F word. He kept. He kept calling you the F word, but coming to me with it, like, trying to come at me like that.

[A]

Where are you buying your sneakers at?

[E]

Is it sneaker Shamalat or some shit like that?

[F]

It's a sneaker. It's a reputable sneaker store.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

You know how people are. Cause of what we do. So people talk. Y' all was the ones telling me that. I kept telling y', all, I'm popping on here. People stop me all day. It is a different crowd, and it is a different whatever. So this guy just wanted to, like, just talk about how Joe's a homosexual. You know what I mean?

[A]

I thought you meant friend.

[F]

No, not friend. Cause you just say friend, you can't say the other word, right?

[B]

It's overly friendly.

[F]

So. And it's like, that's cool. You think Joe Button is homosexual. That's fine. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah, me.

[F]

No, it's not fine, but it's like, bro, I'm not ready.

[A]

Not buying it over.

[F]

No, you know why? Because I with you, and I liked you since I met you. I've always liked you, right? But you talk a little bit, you know, you just a little free. Like, you might even saying or commenting on hair. That's why they call you. You know what I mean?

[A]

I want to say, well, who the is calling me?

[F]

Who?

[A]

Who?

[F]

Joe, stop.

[A]

Take me to your sneaker store.

[F]

When I first. When I first.

[A]

I want to come to the sneaker store.

[F]

Can I be real with y'? All? Y' all want to be my brothers, right? When I first used to hear it, I used to be like. Like, people are so dumb. Clearly, he's trolling. You know what I mean? Like, people used to say it or crack jokes or whatever.

[B]

Like, oh, start playing with his feet.

[A]

On the little tangy tangy.

[D]

I don't.

[F]

I don't believe I hate them. I don't believe that Joe Button is homosexual at all. But some people are obsessed with it. That's a thing about. So he just keep saying it, saying, like, bro. And I'm somebody like. Like, I worked real long on my temper, you know? But it's like, at a certain point, you just trying to disrespect me. You just, you know, you're not calling me a fat bitch, but this is the closest you gonna get to. So you just gonna keep saying, like, I literally moved my chair for this, and it was still, like, a thing.

[D]

So did you say. How'd you. How'd you. How'd you did it? You just eventually worked.

[F]

The sneaker store had, like, this. You want the truth?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[F]

The sneaker store had, like, a display.

[B]

She pistol whipped up them.

[F]

I picked up the. He had a Hennessy black bottle, and I picked it up.

[C]

Wait, he had.

[B]

In the sneaker store?

[F]

Yeah. You know how they be having all the little cute little, like, trendy stuff, like the, you know, accessories. Right? It was like that. He had a standard, like his nice stuff, and I opened it and took that bottle, and I threatened him with.

[B]

The bottle of the owner.

[F]

No, the. That was doing it to me because he wouldn't get away from me. He, like, circled me at one point. He, like, bore the juice out the.

[A]

Oh, so he's just talking to you?

[F]

He wasn't stalking me. He just was trying me or whatever. And I should have just left, but, like, I think my pride wouldn't let me leave. So then it was just, like, the.

[C]

Next best thing is to grab the bottle of Hennessy.

[A]

I don't know what type of sneaker.

[B]

Store got juices and Hennessy.

[A]

They do black and miles.

[F]

First of all, the sneaker store wasn't in Philadelphia. Second of all, I resent that part. Why? Because, like, I love Hennessy.

[C]

Not black, though.

[A]

Hennessy.

[F]

I didn't swing on him with the bottle, but I held it to protect myself, just to let him know, like, I will SW with this bottle. Cause he just kept circling my body, that vibe. And it's crazy, because in my mind, that's okay to say, and it's probably not, but.

[B]

Oh, well, I mean, you had to.

[C]

Do what you had to do.

[F]

He black, but it's still his, and it was effective no matter what. None of that would have happened if I wasn't working up here and I wasn't loyal and dedicated.

[B]

And you don't be playing with your feet.

[F]

I'm out here rocking crisscross applesauce.

[A]

And also, if you just type Foot Locker in maps.

[F]

Foot Locker don't have.

[B]

It's a bunch.

[A]

They'll all. They'll all pop up. They'll all pop right up.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Now, you could just push the button and they'll deliver it to you.

[E]

Yeah, model.

[A]

We don't have to buy sneakers. We used to buy them from. We used to risk our lives because the hot sneaker store was where the shootouts happen.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

We don't have to do that no more.

[F]

So are y' all trying to give me advice to go to Better Flight Club? It was in a really nice area and all that. Y' all police everywhere. It wasn't in the hood. Serious. It wasn't like premier location.

[B]

A nice area. Got the Hennessy and this thing is.

[D]

It's a premium looking black, though.

[F]

It was Henny black. Thank you, Mark.

[D]

I'm with you.

[F]

The facts that matter.

[A]

All right, well, stock X for you now. Stock X for you now. Where. Where would you. Where would you beautiful, beautiful people, like, start today?

[D]

I want to thank. This is my one year anniversary on the show.

[C]

Is it really?

[F]

Is it?

[E]

Shout out to you, mom.

[F]

No balloons or nothing for you, Big mom.

[A]

We don't care. Like, okay, like that. We bring balloons. When you make a certain investment impact.

[D]

Just want to say thank y' all for making this year so much fun. It's been a lot of fun. And it zoomed. It zoomed by to the last week or so.

[A]

It's.

[D]

It's.

[A]

That's. That's a fact.

[F]

That's what you call it? Fun.

[A]

It did zoom by.

[D]

Yeah, it really did.

[B]

Doesn't feel like that was fast.

[A]

And I'm talking, but I want to thank you too.

[E]

Shout out to you.

[A]

Yeah, You've been great. You. You made the year special. You have made the year special.

[D]

I think y' all the same.

[E]

We love you, bro.

[D]

Life ain't been the same. Love you too, bro.

[A]

I like that hoodie too. Thank you and cheers to the next four years in the contract. Employer options we locked in.

[D]

I released a red dead Exercise the option some.

[A]

What do y' all say to yourselves when people offer you long term contracts? Don't talk. Don't use this as a time to talk about me. I'm not trying to have fun.

[E]

No.

[B]

I depend on what the wording is. They got the right amount of money. It depends on if I see myself in that situation.

[F]

You talking about it scares me.

[E]

What are these? Yeah, me too. What are these up to? Yeah, like, why you want me for this long?

[D]

It don't scare me no more. Cause we.

[A]

Because we are nobody. Don't.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

I'm like an adrenaline shot. And they get this thing the out of here.

[A]

He's so surprised. He's still Working.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He be so shocked. Me too. He be, oh, yo, Parks.

[C]

I love you, Flip.

[E]

I love you too, man.

[A]

I'm surprised good to creators have today with all the information creators, like, you know what short term comp. The shorter the better. Right. But when it. When it becomes a long term, it's like you have to adjust. You have to ask it, how do. How do I feel about the future?

[B]

Like what do I think is gonna.

[A]

Happen versus what they think is gonna happen? Like what's the likelihood? It's like poker. A little bit.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

A little bit.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

For sure.

[D]

The older I get, the more I'm good with it though. I'll just take the largest.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm like, all right.

[A]

You'd rather be locked in and have the stability for the $4?

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Cause my whole career has been one year, two year deals, everybody. And it's good for money. But I'd be like, all right. My daughter in college. I need to get through these four years first. Was my daughter in high school. I need to get her out of high school. So I started wanting to. It's nerve wracking. Yeah.

[A]

Short term deals are nerve wracking.

[D]

I had a one year deal with BET for 12 years. I had a one year deal with an employer option for 12 or 14 years of BC.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Damn.

[D]

So we would always re up and it always worked out, but like it meant every six months negotiating time.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So I was anxious.

[B]

The stress, yo. The anxiety. And then you be having a hustle to get more shit.

[D]

You gotta do your best behavior all the time.

[B]

Yeah, dog. Sometimes the one figure, sometimes you can make more money outside in the world.

[C]

And you can always figure it out later too.

[B]

Comfortability, though.

[F]

That's cause y' all men. Cause that if I don't like you or to move wrong, I don't want to stay for long. So that's why we had to keep it short.

[A]

So.

[F]

I know. I still like you.

[D]

Yeah, I hear that too.

[F]

I don't want to be around it. I don't want to be around.

[A]

Yeah, but y' all got other tricks y' all can pull to get out of contracts.

[F]

Don't we all?

[A]

No, no, no, we don't.

[F]

We don't have the same tricks.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Not at all.

[B]

Cut my brain.

[A]

Sorry, I'm not playing. Well, Dan's about to say something now. I forgot.

[D]

You said do. You were asking a question. You said do.

[B]

You think.

[D]

Think you were asking. I think about the employer. What their logic was for.

[A]

Oh, do you think that the employer felt like they would get the best out of you on a one year deal versus all right, we're gonna lock you in for four. Maybe you get complacent. We don't get the same results.

[D]

No, I think. Cause I'm pretty in the industry, I'm sort of known, believe it or not, for being easy to work with and for working really hard. So it's not that. It's more like do we want to be in this business before? Like there was a stretch of 10 years where I did maybe eight things for BET in 10 years. I felt like it was reparations they were paying me and I wasn't working. Cause they were always about to do news, they were always about to build news. So I think part of it was we don't want to lock in for four or five years and we don't do. And we decide we don't want to do news. And so it was more like that we want to make sure that we're not investing in something we're not sure about.

[A]

And then for me it'd be, am I going to like you in a year or two years or three years, which is fair. How am I gonna feel about you? Like I'm putting a lot of faith in you, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, coming from somebody who don't have stability, really. Stability at home, but that jumps around.

[B]

It's okay, watch.

[C]

It's a safe space.

[E]

No, watch your mouth. Stability at home, but that jumps around. Content, creation and believing in themselves. It's hard. It's just about adjusting.

[A]

Right.

[E]

The money may, you know, the year come and it's like I really want to go do my own thing or continue to do my own thing. But then this shit look good. Do I go for another year? It's a lot of, you know. Yeah, you got to adjust yourself in real time. As I say, you have to adjust yourself and say, how am I? What would this next year look like for me up here or wherever I'm at? Am I going to still do the same thing that I've been doing or am I going to do something different? You know, some shit become old, some shit become new. So you try to reinvent in real time or try to adjust.

[B]

So if you get.

[A]

It's my last question on this because it was meant to be just something fast. But if you sign like a five year deal in your mind, is it expected of you to fall off toward the end of it?

[E]

No, no, wait.

[B]

That's a good question.

[F]

Expected by who though?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Expected.

[E]

Good question.

[B]

No internal for you or your person.

[A]

Self expect you you or you either sign either party.

[D]

It's an interesting.

[A]

Personally, I said no.

[C]

I take everything day by day, man. Yeah.

[A]

So you give me a five year deal and you expect me to increase my production year over year for five years.

[B]

Maybe.

[D]

What happens if that don't.

[A]

What happens if that don't happen in year three or four?

[B]

At least not decrease though. Even if it don't increase, if I stay, I at least have to maintain.

[E]

At a steady pace.

[B]

Yes. The goal of course is to always keep.

[A]

That's a decrease. If it stay the same, it's a decrease.

[D]

Even if it's not, it's considered a decrease in place.

[A]

Inflation.

[B]

No, that's the opposite side.

[F]

Oh, because of inflation. That makes sense.

[B]

The payer I know is the beneficiary of inflation, not the payee.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

But you shouldn't get worse or no.

[B]

Saying if you're staying the same.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You should get better.

[E]

So you can't just. You can't just cruise. Some people just cruise through the years. You can cruise through the years. If you cruise through like say if you get the third year now you just cruiser cruising.

[C]

Why would you want to not.

[B]

You wouldn't want to cruise.

[E]

But things could happen. You wouldn't want to cruise. No. But things can happen where it's out of your hands. Where the only way I can get through this if I just cruise and play my position.

[C]

That's true.

[E]

So then what happens then explain that to me. So like if we could you.

[A]

We could.

[E]

We could.

[B]

If Steph Curry average 28 7, I.

[E]

Want to use real Steph Curry.

[B]

I was 28, 7 and 7. If the next year he don't average 30, 10 and 10, nobody looks at him like he fell off. Off. 28, 7 and 7 is still 28, 7 and 7.

[A]

It ain't cruising.

[D]

No, that's not cruising.

[B]

The bar that you set is the cruise. So whatever your averages are, that's your average.

[A]

Okay. I disagree with that.

[B]

You saying not putting in effort.

[A]

So.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And think sports is a little bit different than what we're talking about.

[D]

Do you do your best effort?

[E]

My example be up here.

[A]

Flip.

[E]

My example would be up to up here. I can use up here as an example. Let's use me. So if you're doing something and then let's say Mark come or Mona come. Like say we're doing something in the third year, the first two years or three years is we turning up. Right. Then things become stagnant. Right. And then now Mark and Mona come. Things go back to where it needs to be.

[D]

Right.

[E]

I have to find a way as a creator. How can I fit into this?

[F]

I get what he's saying.

[E]

How can I fit into this? How can I adjust with this new iteration? What do I do?

[A]

Right.

[E]

Right. And if there's nothing to do, I mean, this is open for us to do. If there's nothing to do, then I'm gonna just try to cruise my way by until my contract.

[D]

But I don't know if that's true. If you still do your maximum effort.

[E]

It'S like with Kevin Durant, maximum effort is shit. I'm sorry.

[D]

It just might look different. Like, if Kevin Durant joins Golden State, Steph's numbers might drop, but Steph is still being Steph. It just looks different.

[E]

Got it.

[D]

When Kevin Durant.

[B]

Cause you gotta share the ball with another superstar.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. And that's. So let's go.

[A]

Mark. We were off on a tangent a little bit before we get into whatever we about to get into. How was everyone's week in review while we've had all this back and forth with the educated?

[E]

Well, shout out to Angela, man.

[D]

I got so many phone calls. Cause y' all motherfuckers, man.

[B]

Cause of us.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Cause you're antics. Cause of us, the unwashed masses.

[A]

Gotcha.

[D]

Yeah. No, like, it's really interesting. Interesting to watch it come full circle, like, after, because we. People were criticizing us and all that. Then there was the intellectual conversation, and then it was your, yeah, you know, speech from my man from on high. And that changed the game that. I don't. I told you this this weekend, man. I don't know if you know how strong that was. Whatever you did, that 1520, whatever it was, it changed a whole lot of people's perception of you, of the show, but also of their own point of view. And that's hard to do to get. People would hit me like, y' all watch what Joe said? And I looked at this shit totally different, and I thought, that was amazing.

[A]

That's dope.

[F]

Can I jump in? I saw that Angela's podcast. I've always been a fan of her. I saw her podcast and I seen how people were, like, responding to it. But the way my algorithm set up people was automatically. They didn't like what she said. Like, that's just how my algorithm is. I didn't. So when. When he had his rebuttal or whatever, I had already seen people going, that Way, like, they just didn't appreciate. They just didn't appreciate that outlook of it. But my question is for you, how does that feel? Like, when your peers call you and try to check you or pull you up? Because I know me, at some point, it'd be like, yo, I'm grown. Thanks. And certain people wouldn't even be able to do it to me. Cause it's like, nigga, I don't need. I know it's certain people in your life that can do that, but the niggas that ain't supposed to do it. How do you carry that?

[D]

I don't listen to people.

[A]

Great question, too, by the way.

[D]

Part of why I changed my number earlier in the year was that I don't have to take those kinds of calls. And so people who can call. You got the number.

[E]

No, no. I'm thinking about something Top said. If you change your number, the only reason people change their numbers is because they can't say no. So that was something that.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that might be tops. I definitely shrunk my circle. But my point is the people who reach out to me are people who I care and who I want to hear from. So, like, I talked to. I won't disclose the conversation, but I spoke to Angela this weekend, actually, a couple times, and we had a great conversation about this. And I think she. I think it's safe to. I'm comfortable saying that she agreed with a lot, most of what you said that day. And so I think a lot of times we're talking past each other.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean? And sometimes we have to take a second and listen and really appreciate each other.

[E]

She reached out to me. Angela, Rye, very nice lady. I told her she's cool. I said, you cooler than how you come off. Reached out and apologized and said that.

[D]

You said that.

[E]

I said that in the message.

[D]

Are you cool? You are a charmer.

[E]

And she was laughing, but she's a very nice lady, and I appreciate her reaching out. She apologized, guys, and I want to salute her and shout out to my man, Confucius. Confucius came in.

[D]

Yo, you broke this down, yo.

[E]

You changed the whole. My son. Hey, get up. I love you.

[D]

That's how you get to the bed.

[A]

You know, like I told. I told y' all earlier. But because those. Because those are Mark's friends. Like, I didn't want to come in and bug out. That was my only thing. Like, I wanted to. But then I spoke to my brother, Ish in the morning.

[E]

He turns you up.

[D]

He Put the battery back.

[A]

But I do want to let. Let her be know I don't have any problem with Angela, Ry or any of. Any of the.

[F]

When she going to come on?

[A]

I don't know. I. I've never, I've never spoken to her.

[F]

Yeah, that's. It has to happen now.

[A]

I've never spoken to her. But I'm not against opening some dialogue with anyone.

[F]

Yeah. Just. That has to happen.

[A]

I didn't like none of this.

[F]

So break the Internet.

[E]

How do you feel, Joe, that you're able to. Things get painted one way and then you come in and you. You give a. What's it called? A dialogue. What did he give?

[D]

Monologue.

[E]

Monologue. You give a monologue and now the world changes, you know, perception on you and. And the program.

[A]

You felt like I was ad libbing. Ish. We had some. We had some kids.

[D]

Y' all really was tag teaming. Y' all was getting some run DMC got that off.

[E]

You know, it's my.

[A]

You know. But I enjoyed the conversation that it sparked. Yeah, yeah. You know, I credit them for that. I do enjoy the conversation that it sparked for sure.

[D]

I had all.

[A]

All different sorts of people hitting me. Not just black people. Had some white people hitting me that niggas was hitting me about just the talk and like got job well done. Thank you for that conversation. I enjoyed it. I was listening to it, driving my kids to the soccer game, whatever they said. Right. So. And that's what you want to do in podcast land. Like I never want to be the guy that's chasing the news. Like I rather dictate it.

[D]

Well, that's why I liked what you said the other day. Because there was a moment where we certainly dictated the Internet. Cause people were responding to me in flip. But then it was just everybody talking about us. You changed the conversational. He did on Friday by setting the table for what the world would be talking about. And that's different. You got to speak on your own terms. That's the beauty of this podcast to me is that we can do that too. It's not just people reflecting on us, but we can push back. That was dope.

[A]

Yeah. No, that's Superfly. It's Superfly. That this can kind of be the place where culture meets twice a week to just kick it about. Shit. Word. And again, shout out to them over there. It's no smoke. It's no smoke. Last week's game was last week's game for me. It's not personal to me either, Parks. It was my Man's birthday. Stop playing with him.

[C]

Yeah, Big Parks, how you feeling?

[A]

Am I feeling?

[C]

Yeah, you look a little tired. That night, like at some point everyone was outside having a good time. Like where the fuck is Ja? Go inside. And you just stole on the couch. I was like.

[A]

I didn't plan the weekend the greatest.

[C]

I see.

[A]

I didn't plan the weekend the greatest. Right before your birthday party. For two weeks my son has been begging me to take him to Kids Empire. And I kind of just brush him off, like get out my face, but. Cuz I hate those places. But it's not about me, it's about him. Sure. So I promised him Saturday and he remembers. Oh, so I took him. But I took him late. I didn't take him in the daytime. I went at 7 o'.

[F]

Clock.

[B]

I told you before you came.

[A]

I went at 7 o' clock in Paramus.

[C]

Oh, you're bugging up.

[A]

You bugging.

[B]

Well I thought I had an out.

[A]

I'm telling my, I'm telling Lex. I'm like, yo, if it's crowded we can't go. So I call him at 3:30, lady on the phone. He like put on speaker lady on the phone. No, we not crowded. Got all the space in the world. That was at 3:30 30. At 7:7 30.

[C]

That's a big difference.

[A]

I didn't know all these parents was doing with their kids in the night time.

[B]

It be the older kids on a Saturday.

[F]

Dead ass on a Saturday.

[B]

Oh, and then they got some of.

[A]

The big kids in there a million times.

[B]

You cannot.

[F]

Some of them big kids was on shrooms in there, man.

[A]

Now mind you, real kids go do.

[F]

Shrooms and go in there.

[C]

I do shrooms at my place. So I mean.

[F]

The kids there. Yeah.

[A]

So I had a lot going on. Right. Because I was already having a passionate disagreement with my significant other about a topic or topics that we felt differently about.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

As a, as a guy I'm like, okay, everybody go to their respective corners naturally. But she, the kids don't know that you fighting.

[B]

The kids don't.

[C]

Oh, so you're fighting.

[A]

So we go to Kids Empire in.

[D]

The thick of the fight. That's the worst together.

[A]

Cuz it's for the kids.

[B]

Of course Lex love her.

[A]

She love Lex for the kids. Now I'm sitting there on a bench. It's mad birthday parties. I'm just like sitting there looking stupid in the face.

[C]

Which is exactly how you showed up to my party.

[A]

And then I get the park early, right. So the Parks's Party that I'm used to. To we outside having a blast. But because I'm there early. Outside, it's closed. It's not open yet. Nobody's out there.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

That don't mean I can't go out there. The party's inside. And me and my girl vehemently are disagree about a topic that we're both passionate about. And now. Now we at my man's birthday party. Yeah. In the thick of it, boy. You want to talk about two people that looked as stupid as they could look?

[B]

You know what I do in that situation?

[A]

And I was tired, yo.

[B]

I couldn't get a sitter.

[C]

That's a different beef.

[B]

No, no, no. That's why I told you I couldn't get a sitter. Oh, that's a.

[C]

Cuz we was firing on you at the party. We're like, c. Supposed to let I just go, man. I supposed to just come over anyway, man.

[F]

Man.

[A]

And I agree with that.

[C]

No, no, but normally in that situation, if the sitter falls through or whatever comes up in life slide and 20 minutes.

[E]

Whoever.

[B]

Whoever it is, whoever. She go with her people, whatever. But when it's that.

[A]

Oh, so y' all was disagreeing about a topic too?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm like, I ain't going out nowhere.

[A]

See, Parks is too good to me. I ain't going to miss it, so I'll just go and look stupid for a little bit. And me and her are normally good with, like, put on faking face. Yeah. But we disagreed so hard about this topic, and we was in the middle of it still.

[D]

We would tell when I saw y', all, yo, first of all, I've never seen y' all that far apart from each other in the same room.

[A]

It's like me and Mona right now, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

How I knew it was bad is because I would be like, I'm doing the party I'm hosting, so I'm running around outside, shaking hands, kissing babies, all that. And I would come in, and it was just like, dead quiet in the room, like.

[A]

But now. Now I was exhausted from the Kids Empire shit. But that. With the disagreement we were having. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't, so. And then I ate because the food was amazing at Parks. Shout out to Rim was great. And now I'm extra tired because the food was great. And I'm not talking to you because we vehemently disagree about a topic that we're both passionate about. And everybody that's looking at us could tell, you can see it, we wasn't doing A good job faking it. I just bounced Irish goodbye. I hugged Rem. Rem. Tell you, man. Tell your husband I'm sorry.

[C]

She pulled me aside. She said they're vehemently disagreeing about a passionate subject. She said that? And then I was like, oh, okay. That's what it was. Okay.

[D]

It makes sense.

[F]

It sounds so like therapy the way you describe the beef. Cuz I would have said we was beefing. Me, my boyfriend was beefing.

[A]

Well, we still. It has. We haven't found in it.

[D]

Yes. They've maintained their vehemence.

[A]

Yeah. Like she cuddled up with me at 6am and I was the little spoon. But I'm still kind of disagree, you know? Is that you get off of me.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Still. You still a little tight.

[A]

It's me. Well, we both a little tight.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

I'm tighter.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

I'm tighter.

[B]

And it's my fault they ain't tell me that.

[F]

Is it your fault. Honesty, Honesty.

[A]

I thought me and you was gonna be friends today. I thought we was gonna be friends today. We are. Yeah.

[E]

No.

[D]

Everything.

[A]

And. And it's. And it's totally my fault.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Totally my fault. So that's so. Yeah, I know.

[E]

I know.

[A]

So.

[B]

What?

[F]

The button.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Yo, you do that though, y'. All.

[D]

Y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

You allow to cuddle when.

[A]

When you.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

I'm a. Don't touch.

[B]

I ain't gonna hold you.

[C]

I turn it all. Sides.

[A]

I don't care.

[F]

Do you personally? What? I couldn't imagine.

[B]

Not now.

[F]

What?

[D]

What?

[A]

Yo, dog, I went to sleep on Lex bed one night.

[C]

I've done that before too. I'm going to the couch, man.

[A]

I'm outta here. Hell yeah, I'm going.

[D]

I want no parts of it.

[A]

I don't even want to be in the same bed with you. Oh my God, we bitches. I don't care.

[D]

Yeah, I'm a little tight now about some shit. I'm like. I definitely don't. I don't want to make no small talk. I didn't open it. I didn't open the DMs yesterday. That's my. That's my passive aggressive. Because you know, you DM your lady memes and shit like that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Won't even open them.

[A]

Oh, I mute mine.

[D]

I mute her.

[B]

That's. That's the move right there.

[A]

Because only when we are vehemently disagreeing about a topic that we're both passionate about. Do Instagram. Keep her shit right at the time right there.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

When y' all in the middle of.

[A]

The disagree, you look better. Right?

[B]

Not only that, she's more active right now.

[A]

Right now. You want to tweet all day?

[B]

No, mute.

[A]

Mute.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mute my. And I tell her I can't. Oh, I don't tell her.

[B]

No, I tell her.

[A]

And if I need to see her, I go to the Fenster.

[B]

See, I don't have. I know.

[F]

I need a Fenster.

[A]

You need a Fenster?

[F]

I need one.

[B]

I can't know you don't.

[F]

You know how I'm not even. I'm not even in. I'm not. Not this one.

[A]

You got to have offense to.

[F]

It won't be me.

[C]

I'm not doing offense.

[B]

It just feels weird to me having a fake page. Like, I just rather go, you can't.

[A]

Be in the thick of passionately, passionately disagreeing about a topic that you both are passionate about. And now you on her page with your face.

[B]

No, that's why I don't go to her page.

[F]

You know? Do y' all know why now you.

[A]

Gotta see what they doing, though.

[F]

Nah, I despise fake pages. Right.

[B]

Me too. Me too.

[F]

But like, when you deaf scrolling, being a little newsy and it's alive with some crazy going on or you know what I mean? You see something, somebody tell a story. I'm the type person, I just go look. But people will make a post. Don't call me white girl in my story. That white, I don't know what she's looking at. Like, people like, they see you. I come on a live. It's the most ghetto as I should not be looking at. Last night I was on this girl live. She was doing all kind of. As soon as I get there, people start saying my name. Oh, yeah, you can't do that.

[E]

I can't chill and just go to those lives.

[B]

Okay. I'm with you.

[F]

You feel me? That's why you need to.

[B]

I click on somebody live and.

[A]

We trying to be low while she popping this shit.

[B]

Yeah, like, I don't want you linking it.

[F]

I haven't seen what I seen on Instagram last night. I haven't seen what I seen on Instagram last night in years. I thought they clipped you for that. They was letting her get off and it was a couple hundred people on there. It was all kind of going on on their live. Her and the nigga sex, basically. Oh, she's selling it IG live. Yes, I screen recorded it. We can watch it later, fellas. Like, I was in that bitch I mean, it's. They still. Still do say my name. But I'm just saying it's like the screenshot you put you on a blog.

[D]

Look.

[F]

What don't come record. It'd just be a lot. That's the only reason why I've been thinking about. I think I may get one.

[C]

Oh, no. If you're not, then I don't care if you say.

[F]

I don't want to be seen watching people like that. Like, I don't even know that I would watch.

[C]

Were they attractive? Because that would make a difference.

[A]

Do y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

Do y' all subscribe to people's Instagram?

[F]

Crazy. No.

[D]

Parks.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not.

[A]

Yeah. Because what Mona's talking about sounds like.

[C]

If it's like a horse.

[F]

I ain't never seen no like that in my life.

[B]

I.

[F]

It was so real. I added in the live and asked that girl what did she do after?

[C]

And she told me what was the answer.

[F]

She said that she like, use ice, cuz she swells. Y' all think I'm playing. Wait till this break and I show you.

[B]

I'm good. I'm actually good.

[A]

I'm fine on that.

[B]

I'm very good on that.

[F]

They're so corny out.

[A]

I take it worse.

[F]

I wish I could be with y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Anyway, the party was great, man.

[C]

Thanks for everybody for showing up.

[A]

Mark came.

[C]

We had a good time talking for a while.

[B]

Horse meat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[D]

How late are you supposed to stay at somebody's party if you don't bring your significant other till the party dies? Does your. Does your. Does your departure time change whether you're solo or not?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

It depends. For me, it do. Yeah, do if. If it's getting his parties be different.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not staying if I ain't. If I'm not. If I didn't go with my significant other, I'm not staying at his crib. To five in the morning.

[D]

You got.

[C]

It's a safe space.

[F]

Old park sh.

[A]

Parties like that, they don't stop.

[D]

We just know you can't wait till the end.

[C]

We just made it about some.

[D]

Exactly.

[F]

I don't still.

[D]

So I got there like, I got there late. Cause I was in Philly all day. And then I got there like maybe like 11, 11:30. I left about 1:30. 1:15, 1:30. I texted my wife around 12:15, like, Yo, I'm leaving in about 10 minutes. Then I just got caught up in a conversation, but she was asleep anyway, so I got home. It took me an hour to get home. I got home about two and the next morning she was like, how was the party?

[E]

I was like, oh it was great.

[D]

She was like, oh good, I wish I could have made it. Blah blah blah. We ain't have childcare either. So I just. The representative.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And then she was like, yeah. Cause you said you were leaving at 12:15, but you got home at 2:08.

[C]

Oh shoot.

[A]

Oh shit.

[C]

She took the ring camera on your.

[D]

Ass and it's not her. I think she was probably just worried, you know, to make sure I was home safe because I said I was about to leave.

[A]

That's why I don't send the leaving now text.

[C]

Yeah, I don't get Marc is safe in my house.

[B]

I try not to do it.

[A]

No, leaving now is a trap. You're asking for facts. You're not leaving now.

[D]

Right, But I really was about to call the Uber, but then Uber is like one minute away. And then they were about to say Happy Birthday. It was all these things happening. So I just stayed bit a little longer.

[A]

But you know, yeah, you can't do that.

[D]

I said, did I break some unwritten rule about cuz I don't go out that much anymore? So like solo. So I was like, did I break a rule?

[F]

She woke up out her sleep seeing that and was counting down till you got in.

[D]

Nah, nah, she was not bad. She definitely. I think it's more that it was later. I don't think my wife don't care later. I stay as much as like, I think it's the I say I'm leaving. I said this time and then I'm leaving that time kind of thing.

[C]

See if I'm asleep anyway. I don't really care about that as long as you're not doing some 6am showing, showing up at the crib. Then, then that's different.

[D]

But got you. Maybe that's the cut off. Maybe like four or five.

[B]

I'm with her cuz if you, if you said this time then. Oh, don't tell me the time.

[D]

Oh, don't tell me the time.

[A]

That's.

[D]

That's the lesson.

[F]

Ice don't play around.

[D]

I've never seen. I'm like, ice don't around.

[F]

Listen, I'm with it. Lay the rules down in the beginning. We ain't got to argue.

[D]

If you say two is two.

[F]

Listen, it takes seven minutes to get from where you was at. It's been 11. Let me fill that engine. I used to fuck with a guy, right? And he would say, meet me here and he would Fill my engine say, no, this car too hot. You've been outside all day. I promise you some just like that. I promise you. Like, I would be acting like, you know, like I just came outside. Cuz he said pull up. Or he would fill the car to see if the engine was hot. Of course it was hot. I'd be outside all day.

[B]

Tell the truth. What, you ain't never hit a with. Let me smell your.

[F]

I'm sure I have. I had to. Not recently, though.

[D]

Does that work?

[A]

Good for you. You too old for.

[F]

The thing about is when you smelling way too old for.

[A]

You got.

[F]

You got smell. You smell it, but you smell it. Too old for me. Sniffing them like, thank God I can still suck them. If you. If you. You're smelling for soap, Mark.

[D]

That was going to be my question.

[B]

A girl told me, you smelling for soap.

[F]

Yeah, you smelling for freshness.

[B]

Condom got you.

[F]

Yeah. Rubber.

[B]

Yeah, the Magnum's got a strong ass smell. The girl was like, yo, you be smelling for the condom smell.

[F]

Yeah. Why did you wash up? Like, why do you smell like you took a shower?

[A]

You guys.

[C]

You guys, we've covered sniffing dicks enough, I think, at this point.

[A]

Yeah, I know we're having a blast joshing around, but thanks for coming out, everybody, man.

[C]

It was a good time. It was a good party. Sorry.

[A]

Sorry that you went through that. I'll be there next year. Yeah, we'll be there.

[B]

Yeah, we'll be there next year.

[C]

Let's upgrade to a venue next year. We'll see. Right on that threshold. We almost did it this year. That's why we ended up with the bartenders, because we're gonna move to.

[D]

I love them, by the way.

[C]

Yeah, they were great.

[D]

They were great drinks. They were cool.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Two black women, too.

[A]

Yeah, you might need a venue. You got a lot of people that love you.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But I like the house party. I said that when I got there. I'm like, parks does the house party. Hippie backpack vibe. Boy, he's kind of popular.

[B]

Do the venue and take it back to the crib.

[C]

That's what we're going to do. But it was too little, too late. So we got the bartenders, which was lit. Shout out to them.

[A]

What can we passionately disagree about?

[D]

I had a thought about this. Y' all been watching Ashanti's beach pictures?

[A]

I have not, but shout out to them. That's why I have. We got a good doctor here.

[C]

No, I'm about to.

[F]

She looks great in that. On that beach. Every piece of Cellulite. She looks amazing, in my opinion.

[A]

I love cellulite.

[F]

She's a badass.

[D]

I do, too. That was one of those moments where I felt like first, yes. Ashanti was there with her post Baby Bottom. And I immediately went to the comments for research.

[C]

You're a messy bitch.

[D]

Yes, absolutely. No, I thought she looked great, by the way.

[A]

Yeah, she does look good.

[D]

But I know we live in a world where people are always trying to body shame people. All I saw was people saying, you look great, and a bunch of people saying, why y' all body shaming her? I didn't actually see anybody body shaming her.

[F]

I swear.

[B]

Somebody deleted.

[D]

Nah, I mean, you know, it felt like the Internet was looking for a fight, Mark. You know what I'm saying?

[F]

I also thought that they were talking about. About the fact that they even posted the picture because she wouldn't have approved that. So the body shaming is the fact that the way that he did it.

[B]

They did it for that reason.

[F]

That's what the point was.

[D]

Set us up to attack. Nobody wants to attack Ashanti. She's cool as shit and she looks great.

[B]

That's what I took from it.

[A]

And that's some new age shit where the ladies. Where you ladies have babies and two weeks removed are trying to bounce back and look like Jane Fonda. Like, that's how she's supposed to look, right? Yeah. However she look is how she's supposed to look.

[D]

Right?

[A]

One and two. That's Nelly's wife. I can't be on Instagram looking at Nelly's wife. Shout out to Nelly.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway.

[F]

Okay.

[D]

A year ago, this one.

[A]

You won't be on Real Husbands Hollywood.

[D]

No, I said, I get it. I thought she looked great, too. I was. I was more laughing at how the Internet be looking for a fight sometime. And it don't pop. You don't.

[B]

It ain't even there.

[D]

We all like her. We all think she looks great.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't see much negativity.

[D]

Yeah, I just saw people asking about it. Yeah. I saw people outraged that the same thing actually happened. That was all. I just thought that was crazy.

[C]

Shout out to Ashanti.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

On the Patreon last episode, we talked about Jorge Santos getting pardoned or commuted. And we said Diddy could be next. TMZ reported that Trump was looking into potentially commuting Diddy's. So it was like a more official thing that came from sources inside the White House. White House came out today and said it's not true. I don't trust the White House. But the idea here is that Diddy might be coming home sooner than we expect.

[C]

Depends on if he's gonna play ball with him, I would imagine.

[F]

What you mean?

[B]

I wouldn't put it past him.

[C]

I think what I mean is if he will come out and be pro Trump in whatever way that they see.

[F]

Fit because he was vocal, like anti Trump when Trump was going around asking for the birth certificate from Obama and stuff like that. I think that if it wasn't for that, Trump would already try to. To help him. You know what I mean? New Yorker, he petty like that.

[D]

He said, it's pretty nasty to me. And they're like, does that mean you might not partner him?

[F]

He was like, yeah, he wants him to come home and apologize and wear Trump shirts and like that.

[D]

Did you say he better not?

[B]

Let me ask y', all, if you puff?

[F]

Hell no.

[B]

Would you play ball?

[F]

No.

[D]

Yes.

[F]

No. Hell no.

[D]

Sorry.

[F]

For 60 come home.

[A]

Tell me why.

[F]

Because what I would have to do. It would be different in if like when he purr and Kodak, right? Kodak came home, did a live. That was it. It wasn't a lot of shit. He's gonna want to embarrass him because he doesn't like what he said. So it's not gonna be just you just come home and you make a post. He's gonna expect him to wear a shirt and fucking do. Take that. Take that at the next rally or whatever the fuck he got going on. So it's like, that's not worth it, in my opinion. I don't care. Not for 60 months, it ain't.

[A]

Life ish.

[F]

Y' all niggas crazy.

[B]

I will get up that bitch and act like this is f. Faith singing in the rain. I changed my last name to Trump Crazy.

[F]

You lying and you're lying. You would not.

[D]

I'm not lying. I'm telling you this.

[B]

I stand on. A bunch of.

[F]

Your friends are right about you.

[B]

I stand on a bunch of my. What you think the CEO is going to talk to him like.

[F]

Well, I. I'm sure, but this. Did you hear what I said? I'm telling you that I think as a man, he's going to want to embarrass him because he's angry about what he did to him. So he going to be treating him like. Like a slave free freeze you getting. So what would you not do? If we going that far, what would you not do? What could he not do to you? Like, can he take you on a date? Can he whisper in Your ear.

[E]

Come on.

[B]

Look at that.

[D]

How far are we going to go?

[F]

How far are we going to go?

[A]

Not that far.

[B]

Not that far.

[A]

Not that far.

[B]

Wait, we're not going that far.

[D]

First base, second base, first.

[F]

Just first. Not. No.

[D]

I go date with.

[A]

How long was my original sentence talking about?

[F]

That's why I'm not getting a bar fight or a sneaker store fight.

[A]

You better not.

[F]

Joe is who he is.

[A]

No, I ain't.

[D]

Yo, Flip, without any context, this is perfect. You're actually the perfect person to ask this. You're doing 60 more. You did it.

[A]

You're doing.

[D]

You're doing 50 more months in prison or you could come out trouble. Commute your sentence. But you gotta kind of be on tour with Trump. You gotta wear Trump.

[B]

You gotta put the red and white shirt on and the red and white hat. Yeah, Black maga, all that.

[A]

You got to perform in Margo. The T mobile slap you had.

[F]

We all wr for Donald Trump or chicken noodle soup.

[B]

Look, I'm Trump's sidekick.

[D]

I'm Trump sidekick.

[A]

Come on, let's get answers. Let's get answers.

[E]

Let's.

[A]

You know.

[E]

You know what I'm doing.

[B]

I'm not.

[D]

I don't know what you doing.

[E]

I'm staying inside. I'm doing my 50 man salute to you, brother. It'll hurt my mom. Yo, Flip.

[D]

More to be in prison.

[E]

It hurt my. That's good. Watch it. She listens and she can respond better than me. No, it will hurt her, me being in prison, but I made my decision.

[A]

Mark.

[E]

I think standing.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[D]

Go ahead.

[E]

I think standing with Trump will just hurt my family like the that he's doing out here. Just my family.

[A]

Smart flag.

[D]

You out, like quick, fast, in a hurry.

[A]

You want with Trump?

[E]

You want with Trump?

[D]

Yes, nigga. I will wear.

[E]

You got to speak against. Hey, listen, I know I said all that black power.

[F]

That exactly. Trump power. Come on, bro.

[B]

Y' all ain't get me out chat.

[D]

It's Cat, right?

[A]

It's C. I'm with y'. All. I'm with y. I'll do the 50 salute.

[D]

I love podcast mics.

[A]

I do the 50.

[B]

That's all it is. That's all it is.

[D]

Be the first ones out.

[F]

Did he just let no man embarrass him?

[B]

Yo, my.

[A]

I couldn't explain that to. To my family. I couldn't explain it to my dad.

[D]

You wouldn't have to.

[F]

You go down there, you're not going to get all them pies. You get year. That Big reunion you be posting with all that food go there and everybody acting all tight.

[A]

I couldn't do it. My dad did his time, I would do mine.

[E]

And, And.

[B]

And I've been embarrassed before.

[A]

Now I'm only talking about the. The. The 50 months. If you pass that, right?

[D]

So for like 10 years, you be.

[A]

Oh, then that's a different conversation.

[E]

Right.

[A]

But if it's short time, I'm going. I.

[B]

Short time.

[D]

A lot of time. And I.

[A]

Come on, four years. If you get four years.

[F]

He's not.

[B]

He's doing 85 house.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

And I'm saying. I'm saying I would make that choice in real life. I wouldn't put myself in a. In the position where I'd have to make that choice. But in hyp.

[B]

In hyper.

[A]

Yeah, I'm there. I'm there.

[F]

Okay, Parks, what was your answer? I don't remember.

[C]

I'm going to stay in jail.

[F]

I think that you a real. Parks.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know if I could sacrifice my morals for.

[F]

Come on, bro. It's like. And then everybody like. Like, he is the worst. And then that's the thing about him.

[A]

Is like, like, Mona tried to turn us all into, like, pod Panthers or some shit.

[F]

No, I don't. No, I don't turn us into. I can't. Please. I came up in the 90s and 2000s. Donald Trump was always on television. He was a star. I didn't even think for a minute that this shit would be a real thing. So the fact that this nigga's the president twice is, like, ridiculous. Like the shit that niggas letting him get over.

[A]

Yeah. Forever, you mean?

[B]

Yeah, you mean twice.

[F]

Oh, yeah, right, cuz. Slavery about to start and he's never going to get out the office. I forgot.

[A]

Now it's time for my favorite part of the show.

[D]

Prize picks.

[A]

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[C]

Okay.

[A]

Got the Joe Button seats lined up. Okay. That's why you did.

[C]

I see what you did.

[A]

Hey, check.

[B]

Corny. Corny for that.

[F]

Corny up close. That's corny.

[A]

Y' all think I'm wearing orange for the Knicks?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm not wearing and orange for the next.

[B]

You better Change.

[D]

He's trying to figure out how he.

[F]

Can break the curse.

[E]

Yo, that's crazy.

[B]

Oh yeah, they owing one. Put your money on the cast.

[F]

You going oh yeah, he's wearing orange cuz it's his color. He looks good in orange.

[A]

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[D]

Hey, all right.

[A]

The Joe and Ish picks of the week picks of the week.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Ish says Jaylen Brown more than five is assist. I think he might be chucking, but go ahead.

[B]

No Tatum.

[A]

Paulo Banero More than 11 and a half rebounds and assists. Jaylen Brunson for more than four and a half free throws made. Jamar Chase for more than 77 receiving yards. And last but certainly not least, CD Lamb for more than 75 and a half receiving yards.

[B]

Throw, throw, throw. Luca in there for more than 26 points. I forgot that LeBron not playing. Luca's gonna go nuts.

[A]

Oh, that should be a good one. Hey, I want to throw Jackson. I want to throw Jackson, Smith the Jigma in there for anything he wants to do. More anything he. Yo, yo, I slept on him.

[B]

In my fantasy, he's a monster climbing the Empire State building.

[D]

More, more.

[A]

Yeah, I want to add Jackson, Smith, Najigma for whatever he wants to do. And the same with J. Jonathan Taylor. But whatever the he feels like doing out there. Go Colts.

[B]

Gibbs.

[A]

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[D]

All right.

[A]

Now that the Bills are paid.

[E]

Wade.

[A]

What's up, man? What's poppin', Nick?

[D]

Chill.

[B]

Nick Chubb owe me some money.

[A]

Let you down.

[B]

Couple thousand tickets. All he needed was 35 yards, bro. 35. You start, start. Don't get 35 yards though.

[F]

Yeah, y' all make good money with that.

[B]

I don't know anything about what you talking about, fan.

[A]

Earlier we were talking about who was married that we were Talking about earlier might have been our very first topic Before I puff and my memory is bad, it don't matter. JLo's ex has responded. Yes, there we go. JLo has responded to Jennifer Lopez. He saw the same interview that I saw. And this is her first husband, Ojani no Noah. And he says, and I quote, this is in reference about the recent interview on the Howard Stern show where my ex wife, Jennifer, Jennifer Lopez, aka JLo said that she'd never been loved or capable. Hahaha. Let me just say stop putting us down. Stop putting me down with your victim card. The problem, it's not us, not me, the problem, it's you. You are the one who couldn't keep it in your pants. You have been loved quite a few times.

[B]

Oh shit.

[A]

You've been married four times and have had countless relationships in between. You have had good relationships. Me for example, I was in love with you. I even moved out of the state, leaving my job, my family and friends behind. To support you, to love you and to protect you and care for you. I am an amazing loving person, great human being, honest, faithful to you. Never lied, never misbehaved. That's one word too, homeboy. Never cheated on you. I was good to you. Good for you. I'm too good of a man for you. You chose fame and fortune, moving apart from our relationship. You decided to lie, to cheat on me. And even though I stayed, I even tried to keep the marriage going and alive. I bet you did, you bum ass nigga. You even begged me to stay because at the time you didn't want bad press, caring more about you, about your career instead of saving the marriage. And I stayed. But you, it's still going you when you're the fast line of your career, stardom, not caring about me. You wanted to continue on cheating and lying. I couldn't stay anymore and deal with the constantly lying. That's why I left you. That's why I divorced you. Why don't you tell the truth for once?

[F]

Why are you so good at it?

[A]

Let people know that you are depressed or told you why you should be embarrassed more. I'mma fuck you up. Don't call me. What do this. Don't say no one more time. Don't call me that one more time.

[F]

Tricky words.

[A]

You should be embarrassed, ashamed of yourself. End quote.

[B]

I just gonna left me over here playing drums at the Purple Nipple.

[F]

I want to be mad that he's like bitching like that. But on some real the type of rap that men get. If you really was holding her down. And, you know, being faithful, It'll probably irritate you to hear like that when you know it's Cap. It makes me think it's too well written for him not to be dead serious and telling the truth.

[B]

You think that's what well written?

[F]

Not well written, I'm seeing. As far as well written from not in a grammatical way, well articulated, like his feelings. Right. He was really able to articulate his feelings.

[B]

My nigga, we've been broke up 25 years, Aki.

[A]

Get over it.

[B]

You sound like you still motherfucker.

[A]

Come on. And on top of that, you gotta figure out which person in the relationship deserves to cheat. Right? Like, if it's not you, right? Like he should have just been in the bathroom doing his own math. Like, I'm me. JLO was her. Which one of us is likely to.

[F]

Damn. Yeah, that's.

[D]

So I'mma shoot JLO to tell you every day.

[A]

She from the block. What you think they're doing on the block?

[B]

When a come through that got that.

[A]

You think they on the block.

[E]

We got that knot in his pocket.

[A]

What you just say, Mom Chromie Wills.

[D]

I'mma shoot JLO a little bit of bail.

[A]

We all are on brand. Me too.

[D]

Just a little bit. Just a tiny bit. When she said that the men couldn't love me, well, first, I don't think she was thinking about him. I think she actually wasn't even.

[B]

I forgot.

[D]

I forgot I was married.

[B]

What's your name?

[D]

Right? She was definitely thinking about Ben Affleck.

[B]

And Puff and Mark Anthony. Mark Anthony.

[A]

The one you forgot about is the one that's gonna hop on WI Fi.

[B]

I was there and they gonna be there.

[D]

But she said something about the interview that didn't get recorded. And she said they weren't capable of loving me. She also said I wasn't capable of loving my. And so I think part of what she was trying to say, which didn't get clipped, was they couldn't love me. Well, because I couldn't. Because I couldn't. Right? I couldn't let myself on. So I couldn't create this. So it wasn't like she was totally blaming him.

[A]

Still, that said, I tried that when I cheated before that. Yo, I'm not able to love myself properly. That.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that doesn't fly. You can't get that off. But the other part of it is correct that everybody's saying, which is if you in this many relationships and everybody's loving you poor. Maybe the conversation you have even in public is about taking accountability for your role in the relationship and how it went, where it went, left, you know what I mean? Instead of talking about.

[B]

Didn't she do that? If she's saying, yo, they couldn't really properly love me. Cause I couldn't properly love myself. I don't know what that looks like.

[D]

I just want that to be the headline. Like she said, that was literally the last sentence after a whole string about how all the dudes didn't love her. Well, I'm just saying you could put a little more sauce on the accountability part. You know what I mean? That's. That's just from my perspective. But yeah, homeboy is hurt and he's not letting that shit go at all. And I ain't mad at him. I would be mad as shit too.

[A]

Nah, stop it. Hold on.

[B]

My old 25.

[D]

Stop. I would be.

[B]

Why? Tell me why she worth 300, 400.

[D]

Like Mona said, if I held you down like that, then you better say everybody except my first husband didn't love me.

[B]

Well, yo, fuck that. First off, it's always multiple sides to a story.

[D]

1.

[B]

But only thing I take issue with him saying is I was good for you. I was. Was this. You can't tell.

[E]

You can't tell her that you weren't.

[F]

And she cheated on her.

[B]

Yeah, but you can't tell her that I was good for you. That might. You might not have been what she needed.

[D]

That's fair.

[B]

It could have been good in your eyes. But what.

[D]

That's fair.

[B]

That wasn't what she needed.

[E]

It's like a time when the girl with all the drug dealers and she tried to go straight. She tried to go with. Hold on. Ish. She tried to go with a. That has a 9 to 5. When she have a 9 to 5, a lot of times it don't work out. She want to go back to the old life. She tried to go. You know, she was with Puff and with all the.

[D]

That was moving around, I think I was that guy. Yeah.

[B]

1997 is when she got fish grease hot. That's what her and Puff was doing to Cha Cha. Uhhuh.

[E]

This. Let me see this. Let me tell you, look.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Oh, Johnny.

[E]

That's what she left him for the game.

[F]

What?

[D]

Yeah, she left him for the game. She was cheating with. With real famous people. And like, she wanted to get on.

[F]

And it was wrong. Bronx. And it was wrong.

[D]

It was.

[F]

He met that she had on biker shorts. Dancing on living color. And you forgot about me because of this bad boy.

[A]

It's a statute of limitations on.

[F]

You damn right. I'm going to McDonald's. Wi fi.

[A]

Oh, well. But how long you get to talk about term relationships? 20 years ago.

[E]

I agree with that.

[A]

Even if your ex from 20 years ago pop up and say, yo, no man has ever loved me properly, I don't expect you to come.

[B]

Yes, I did.

[D]

I feel like that's the exception. If they come out first. Like, let me ask you a question, y'. All. Cause y' all are all fathers, right? What if somebody said that about, like, you being a bad. Like, if 30 years, your ex is like, yeah, my kids never had. Never had good fathers, never had good role models. Would you be like, the statute is over.

[F]

Right.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? It's some shit that gets you that's.

[C]

Not quite the same.

[D]

No, I know. Not for us, but for Ojani, that might be traumatic for him like that.

[B]

Because you ain't got shit else going on.

[F]

He already did, sir.

[D]

Basically, I'm saying, like, that might be the worst shit that ever happened.

[B]

I'm worth 300 mil. You down there.

[A]

The truth don't need defenders. Like, if I'm a great father, then I don't really care what you're saying. If I dated you 20 years ago, like, my kids are okay. Yeah, that's. That's first and foremost. Like, I'm not here trying to clear up. If I was here trying to clear up every rumor or bad press that I ever got, I mean, my hands would be full.

[D]

I wouldn't do it. But I. I'm throwing a bell because I. He sounds hurt.

[C]

He's definitely.

[D]

It's not ego. Like, you know, some people do it out of ego, and they just want to clap back, I think. Or for attention.

[A]

He lost all hope. You don't go from JLO to the chick making the chopped cheese.

[E]

He hit the cornerstone with the cats.

[D]

It's tough.

[E]

He ain't never got that fire.

[A]

He ain't never reached the World Series again playoffs. We never heard his name. We never heard his name before.

[B]

And I was the running back back.

[D]

In poke high for 22.

[B]

Yeah, I had that world school, high school record.

[A]

Good job, OJ Anyway, shout out to homeboy. Shout out to Jennifer Lopez.

[C]

Best of luck.

[B]

Let that shit go, homeboy.

[D]

Who's the dickhead? Let me not use that word. Who is the person that marries her next?

[F]

Oh, who's the dickhead?

[D]

I'm just saying, like, to me, if somebody was married four times and it failed every time, I Guess he said you'd be number five, dog.

[B]

If you don't think Jennifer Lopez could find a husband, you're crazy.

[D]

I think she can. I just think he's gonna be a to me. Like I would not somebody who dropped that many L's like, I'd be worried about.

[F]

Nah, it's JLo.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

You got four husbands season. It may be something crazy going on.

[E]

You season girl, however you seasoned, there's.

[A]

Other things going on.

[E]

That fire that I'm going to try.

[B]

To come that you going to be willing to escape the room, figure this out.

[A]

Cuz always think that they could change her crazy anyway.

[E]

You can't change it.

[A]

You can't.

[D]

Or manage it or like or deal.

[B]

With it or I'mma deal with it till I can't no more.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Some go into it knowing she crazy and it's going to be my end all.

[A]

I heard a quote on it.

[B]

Have some fun right now.

[A]

I heard a quote on the Internet I want to ask you all about. I forgot where I heard it from. I would credit you. My apologies in advance. Somebody. I heard a guy tell a girl on the Internet somewhere, shout out to you, wherever you are, that a man's past is as important to a woman as a woman's future is to a man. What do y' all think about that quote? A man's past is as important to a woman as a woman's future is to a man.

[B]

I think he's wrong.

[A]

How do y' all feel about that?

[B]

That quote? He's wrong.

[D]

I think he's dead wrong. I think it's the opposite.

[C]

Feel like it's intentionally vague.

[D]

I feel like dudes care about women's past and women care about dudes.

[E]

Oh, yeah. I think a woman's past.

[A]

Yeah. No, he's saying, good, somebody tell me something.

[B]

I'm going to tell you the man's past. A lot of times women aren't really as concerned with the man's past. However, I think that women are potential. No, I think that they are considering a man's future.

[A]

Your.

[B]

Like, that's damn near one of the main things that they with a for is where he's going. Yeah, your potential. Where you going to be. Yeah, like, so I think that you don't go with no based on.

[A]

Damn. I think that was the quote. I might have just totally.

[D]

We don't. We don't care about.

[E]

We don't care about.

[D]

We don't care about.

[E]

We don't care about the future.

[A]

All right, so if you reverse it.

[D]

If you reverse it.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. All right. That's on me. That's on me. Sorry, homeboy.

[F]

Please tighten up.

[D]

If the quote is the opposite, then, yeah, I think men are. We worry a lot about women's past. More than we should.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean? We need to let some of that go. Like that. You wasn't there for it. Be like, let it go.

[E]

It's ego, though.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I'm with it. I get it. I do.

[E]

In the same room, a done had your girl up and down through it. He just smiling like cuz. Oh, hey, Sherry. How you doing?

[B]

Plural said, yo, you walk in the club with your girl, she know all the bouncers giving a hug. Long hug.

[A]

Long hug, though.

[B]

That's my brother.

[E]

I don't fall for that brother.

[A]

How many times have y' all dated someone more popular than y'? All?

[F]

Damn. That's a good question.

[D]

Like, four or five times.

[F]

Probably once. Honestly, Dan, that says a lot about me now. I think about it.

[B]

Dated or like, seriously dated?

[E]

Like, because it's a difference.

[A]

Someone you go outside with, I don't care if you had a title or not, but somebody that they would see you with at the corner store.

[F]

Once for sure. For me, once.

[B]

A couple, maybe two or five times.

[A]

Seriously. Two or three.

[D]

Corner store level.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

I wonder if that's something.

[D]

Why do you ask?

[F]

Yeah, like, is that something that men would go like? Would y' all date popular people more than we would? Like, I'm curious in my head about that. I feel like men would date a popular girl. Girls would shy away from popular guys.

[B]

That's what you think?

[F]

I just. I'm asking kind of.

[B]

I think it's the opposite. Yeah, I definitely think. I think dudes are shy away from the popular chick. I think girls gravitate to the popular dude.

[F]

Oh, yeah. I didn't like it.

[B]

Run from the popular chick. Cu you think she been popped by everybody? No.

[A]

Or that is not why.

[E]

A lot.

[B]

Of you niggas run from her.

[A]

You are scared of her.

[B]

They be intimidated by us.

[A]

Y' all are afraid of us. Not cause you worried about me.

[B]

You just talk. I'm talking about the niggas. If she's pop, like you said, she walking the spot. Everybody knows her. You've seen her with him before. You've seen her with him before. Niggas are scared to be around with that chick because now you don't want to look like, damn, everybody popped my chick. That happens. That could be a part of it. But I think that These dudes be intimidated. Especially if she popular and wealthy or well to do.

[D]

Did you mean pop like, famous popular or just popular, like, around the world away?

[A]

I just meant more popular than y'.

[F]

All.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Because a lot of times what he talking about is like, the. The chick everybody in the club know, which is different. I probably wouldn't do that. That as much.

[F]

And this the thing. What is she popular for? Like, me, I'm popular because I have a skill. I'm a comic. That's totally different than somebody that's popular because they have a fat ass or that's popular because they can dress popular because. You know what I mean?

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

I'm not even gonna say necessarily. Exotic dancing, you good. Exotic dance, you do well at it. That's your business. Okay. You popular. You have a skill. But if you're just popular, I could see a being scared to be. You know what I mean? Because what the you got going on, you know?

[B]

But the side that they speaking to, like, especially to today, like, with all the social media I know that'll see if she got a bunch of different countries she been to in the. The little bubble on the page, I ain't gonna. Well, you know, he can't compete with that. He's intimidated.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Or if she's used to certain bags and a certain lifestyle that, you know, you can't with. It's intimidation. Just off the popularity, the circle she running. You don't want no parts of that.

[D]

The money was the thing that always got me.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Is everyone here familiar? Did y' all see Gucci mane on the Breakfast Club?

[B]

Which is why I did. I did.

[F]

It was so good. It was great interview.

[A]

It was. I'm gonna play a clip. Let's see.

[F]

Just trying to protect the business that you guys have built while I have a system. I take his apps off his phone. First thing I do, I delete Instagram. I delete everything. Everything. Even if I got to change his password, I'm changing it because I don't need the public to know he's having an episode. You realize you'd never know about any other episodes since September 13th? Because I control that. Because you're not going on Instagram. You're not going on Twitter. It's deleted. You know, And I just control everything at home. And now, before the episodes come, I catch it. So that's why he hasn't had another one.

[A]

And she's talking about schizophrenia, okay?

[F]

He wants to be left alone.

[B]

He.

[A]

He don't eat.

[F]

He does not sleep. Text messages There's a period after each word, and I'm like, you're going through an episode. You're sick. No, I'm not in Gucci.

[A]

Don't use periods.

[F]

Why do you think that? You're not speaking to me. Well, there's nothing to talk about. I said, well, that's not how you speak to your wife. And I'm like, you're sick. And we snap out of it right then.

[A]

Wow. Wow.

[D]

You know, we heard Kim this week say how Kanye just used to give away their cars and stuff, and he.

[A]

Would go through episodes.

[D]

And in the book you talk about.

[A]

That was wild, too.

[D]

We never talked about giving away stuff.

[F]

I gave away Jury.

[D]

Money cost so much.

[B]

You know how much cost for Jury? Like, I gave way. I would give my friends Jury and, like. Like, they know I went, well, they'll take it.

[C]

Yeah, they.

[D]

I felt like, damn.

[A]

They know I was.

[B]

Something's going on with me, but they'll take it. So, like, when I got out of jail, like, I cut off all my friends.

[A]

Damn.

[F]

Yeah. I love that for so many reasons. Number one, where both of they're from. Both. She's from Jamaica. He's from Georgia.

[D]

Georgia.

[F]

Both of those places need to hear people say, I have schizophrenia. I take medication. We take them to the hospital. This is what we do. We have a plan of action. Black people are more likely to die and all that. Black people call the police and say, my brother tripping out and the police come and kill the brother. Police went. I mean, Philadelphia rioted for that years ago. So it's like, we gotta, like, educate each other in those ways. Because mental health is not something that I mean literally. Sometimes your flu is just low. Same way the car need oil, or you. You didn't abuse some drugs that shit you up. You left dual diagnosis. Sometimes you have a schizophrenia schizophrenic bop to you. You know what I mean? Also, she loves that nigga. She washes his ass. She cooks for him to notice that he's using different punctuation in a motherfucking text and they click, get the security, kidnap him, takes the hospital. That's a good bitch. I love the whole thing about the interview. And I also feel like when you open enough, like how Gucci was, where it was like, yeah, I was on drugs and I was fat, and. And now I'm slim and I'm married and I'm happy. Right. I think that it's good to be vulnerable in that way, too, because you present this perfect shit. And it's just not real. It's not, you know. So to have such a huge problem and be open enough. Cause he doesn't have to and be transparent enough. When you gonna help communities like that? I just loved it, like every part of it.

[B]

The main thing that I got from it was when a man that's rich. Cause he was rich. Exhibits that level of vulnerability with his wife.

[A]

Wife.

[B]

I think that shit is fire, you know what I'm saying? To where yo, I'm. I'm in your care now. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm in your care. If I'm going through an episode or if I'm falling off the ledge or whatever the case may be, I'm going to submit to you to do everything that you think is good for us and myself. At the same time. I think that's dope and I think that's rare. Agree. Because a lot of times it's the flip side to that.

[D]

It was a reminder to me, especially during a week where some of us are having very vehement disagreements. It's a reminder of like the value of partnership and like what it means to have somebody who got your back no matter what.

[B]

She's actually catching heat for this.

[C]

Really.

[B]

They're saying that this is controlling. This is her.

[F]

Her control me.

[A]

Some matters we don't need the. The comment section's opinion on. Stop it. Your significant other is going to be the one to save your life. Life. When you just fall out.

[D]

Literally.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

It's not a controlling thing. This is the person who I'm sure has power of attorney who is in charge in a life or death situation for him, family.

[B]

This is the person he trusted before going to jail.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

He left the money to her.

[F]

Facts.

[B]

He left. I believe it was 2 million. She multiplied it and she multiplied it when he came home. Got him. Right. Like it's clear that this person. I know, we hear them instances where you know somebody's doing you foul while they have the control of your business assets and everything. She's clearly moving in step with him. Like.

[D]

Or she's supposed to be controlling. I mean if I'm out of control, someone has to take control.

[B]

Marriage is. I was about to say they would knock her and knock her head off and be dissing the shit out of her on social media. If she was watching him spiral and didn't do anything.

[D]

That's what people were saying about Kim.

[B]

Yes. You sitting here watching them go through the this. You're gonna just let him post all this dumb on the Internet. No. I' ma watch my man that I love. Go start going downhill. I ain't gonna let the. The truck roll all the way down. I'm reach over and grab my. Reach over and stop the shit. Like I think that's fire.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

That's what a real partner is and a lot of people just don't know it.

[A]

Yeah. Like I would have loved to have heard how Kim Kardashian dealt with that. I know they're separated, so her going on car daddy and speaking about it with her testimony is just a little different. But I would have loved to hear that angle from Kim. Like how did you deal with it when your husband was coming home? I mean when you were coming home and you noticed that he was giving away cars of yours, right? Yeah.

[F]

All you hear her talk about is the protection of her children. That's what you hear about. And, and I respect that as a big thing.

[B]

Cuz they have small kids.

[F]

True.

[A]

Turning white again.

[F]

True.

[A]

But that's what it is.

[F]

His mom is dead and you his wife. So you know, with all that help y' all got, you would think that you could protect them kids and help your husband. I'm not saying she didn't. I'm just saying that's why a good old Jamaican black ass wife let him tell it her.

[B]

Their idea of helping him was having a doctor get him hooked up on pills.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I was going say she did intervene.

[A]

And then the very next she got with. Also had mental health problems. When he left.

[F]

When he came, he came. Joe when he came in, left, left. When he came in, left.

[D]

I think he entered with them problems too.

[F]

Can I add one thing to the conversation? One level to the conversation. It's another thing I thought about. People be in situations like that, like say regular people, not rich people. Right. And the family will be that always like, like you said with the comments, people will be, oh, it's too much is changing because now you go over there, get the necklace. Now this call, bring that necklace back over here and. And she can because she is power return. Right. Sometimes you see families fall apart part. It's a rapper on Internet doing that right now, the family beefing. But it's just like that entitlement thing. When the woman come in. People want to know why you bought your watch. Why'd you get your A ride? Why'd you like? Some people don't understand the dynamic of family because they haven't seen it, they haven't experienced it or they envy it. And they will literally try to rip Your apart. That's why you have to cut off your mom and your grandma. And sometimes you got a good. You got a Keisha Kor and you let somebody call you and say, why you buy me a roll, Grandma.

[A]

Mona going to get back to cutting grandma off.

[F]

And I bet you she watching.

[D]

She is.

[A]

It was just interesting for me to hear someone in hip hop talk about their battles with schizophrenia.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

That was new for me.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And just a scary thing to be battling terrifying.

[F]

Oh my God. Even the medication.

[B]

So let me. Let me ask you.

[C]

And shout out to her too.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Just putting like updated people with mental health. Like diagnosing mental health. That is not.

[F]

It's like a job.

[C]

That is exhausting.

[F]

That.

[A]

And don't throw it in my face while we fighting that you wash my ass either like that. That should just be. That should just be a thing that you did that goes unsaid.

[F]

Stop forgetting about that week. You couldn't wipe your own ass.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[F]

I won't have to remind you.

[D]

It's going to happen.

[B]

Tell the to wipe your arms.

[D]

That's when it comes.

[A]

You know, ain't gonna do that.

[F]

Y' all get that short term amnesia. Gotta remind you.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Yeah. Wife J. I brought you soup. Shut the up in here.

[A]

He went on to tell an interesting story about him. Him and Jeezy having the same flight and Jeezy sitting in his seat. And that was like one of the first times they spoke to each other. And he went over there and he was like, yo, you in my seat. And Jeezy was like, all right. But I mean, my seat is right there. It's the same seat. Can you just sit in mine? He was like, nah, I need you to get up because that's my seat. And he was like, my pride just wouldn't even let me go sit in another seat.

[B]

It wasn't wow, but it was because it was him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He was saying my pride.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

The fact that it's you.

[F]

Nah, he's an Aquarius.

[B]

No way. I get that.

[A]

Man. Man, pride will never cease to amaze.

[B]

I get that. I'm sorry.

[A]

It is one of the dumbest things in the world for sure. And we stand by it. Just like. And I mean, I get what he's saying because of the relationship between them two, but I also don't get what he's saying because it's a seed. It's a seed. You got the same seat over there.

[B]

It's not just a seat. I understand.

[A]

It from him. But male pride and the way that it manifests just will always be compelling to me.

[E]

Yo. And that's how I feel when I was listening to your man Stephen A. Smith about. When he was talking about the LeBron. It's a lot of pride in that. What he wants him to do and how he wants him to do it. To approach him. It was just a lot of pride. It's just crazy. And I hope that, you know. Can't wait till we get to that. But I agree, man. Pride is no matter how much money you have.

[A]

Can y' all tell me some of the dumbest ways that y' all pride has. Has shown?

[F]

I already started off this morning. Y' all can go.

[E]

All the time.

[B]

No, like, in relationships, like, in some of my past relationships, you've done some stupid, and it'll take you too long to take accountability for the stupid that you did. Like, you just be. You'll be standing there on some prideful and stupid. It's just dumb. Some of us I let go way too long.

[E]

And, like, that's on relationship.

[B]

Like, I could have nipped this because I was wrong. But no.

[D]

You let.

[E]

I let the whole build. I let the whole building burn down.

[A]

I let the whole building down. I operate better in the burning building than you do. Let's burn it down.

[E]

When I see you. When I see you frantic, and then if. When you frantic in the fire, then I. Then I will realize.

[B]

Oh, look like the same.

[F]

That's terrible.

[A]

Destroying, Rescue, Rebuild.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

If this fight is as bad as I think it is, that means that we had some things going on that we need to knock down the house for anyway and see if we can build it back together and get it right.

[E]

It's fucked up. It's fucked up. I think that way.

[A]

Ish.

[E]

But that's how some people think.

[F]

Y' all think about relationships. I straight thought about friendship. Like, pride is kind of like with grandma.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Even that. Even that. Gotta fix that. You know, it's like. No, like. And I don't even know if that is pride. Like, okay. I'm not. You're not. I'm not gonna let you do. Or. This is how I handle people that do or. My big thing is I don't want you to think you could play with me like that. And if I keep giving you access to me.

[B]

Huh.

[F]

That is pride, right? Well, yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's. I don't like that. So if that's. You know, I didn't even realize I was a Proud person until, like, recently. But I'm super proud. Almost like a man. It's terrible. It is. It's terrible. Like, I don't. I'm not the one that starts speaking to my boyfriend. He speaks to me.

[A]

Me.

[F]

Like, I don't do that. Yeah. Like, I'm not.

[B]

I'm.

[F]

I'm not. I'm not the one that stopped speaking either. So if you start. You stop speaking.

[A]

Speak.

[F]

I'm not going to. Like, I don't do that. Yeah.

[D]

Like, I'm okay with. I'm. I'm not too proud to apologize. I. I'm.

[F]

I'm not too proud to apologize.

[D]

Yeah, I'm big on apologies. I'm big on if I something up, fixing it. But if the other person it up.

[A]

Well, how fast are you to recognize when you it up?

[D]

30, generally pretty fast.

[B]

What if you don't agree?

[D]

That's not.

[B]

Cause that's where a lot of times that's different.

[D]

That's different. I think where I struggle. Cause then it does take me a second. Like, if I think I'm right and you think you're right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Generally, though, I'm pretty good at seeing where I went wrong in a situation. And even if I don't think I'm 100% wrong to me, like, if I'm even 45% wrong, I still need to apologize for that. My issue is when I'm right and the other person doesn't apologize, I will not talk to the relative, the friend. Until then, they take ownership. I can't get past it. And. And I think I. Part of pride is also forgiving them in advance and knowing their limitations. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Knowing this, how this person is, I accept you for who you are, and.

[D]

I can't do that.

[A]

That. All right, what else we got? What else needs our attention or doesn't need our attention? You want to get right to Stephen A. Yep.

[E]

Please get to it, bro.

[A]

Stephen A. Smith. Did the Pivot shout out to Ryan Clark and those boys?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

He also went on 7pm in Brooklyn. She shout out to Mellow and those guys. And seemingly he's just on another LeBron media run and. No. Well, at least if he's talking about something greater than that, those are the clips that are coming out. I haven't watched both.

[B]

Some of the shit he talked about on the Pivot was.

[C]

Was the political shit's going a little.

[D]

Bit as well, and the Kyrie shit. All of it, to me, is part of what we were talking about last week.

[B]

A little bit.

[D]

Which is. Is there's an end game here for him. I don't know. I'm not convinced that it's all political. I think some of it is he's just trying to draw eyeballs to these new platforms he's on, you know, But I don't. I love Stephen A. So I just don't recognize him anymore, really.

[B]

Which part that's deep comes with growth sometimes.

[D]

Yeah. Or just. Or being honest about who you are. And it's not a criticism. It's just. It's. That's just not the person that I know that. You know, some of the things he's saying, some of the ways he's moving. I mean, when I watched the LeBron thing play out last year, there felt like a moment where I was like, I wanted Stephen A. To take the high road and just kind of back away from that thing. And I get this, the ego thing. Again, it looked like LeBron chumped you in front of you.

[B]

Sitting in my seat.

[D]

Right, exactly. I get it, you know, but at some point, you gotta make a decision about how you gonna move. The Kyrie thing felt real cynical to me. It felt like, are you. I appreciate him.

[E]

Him addressing it.

[D]

Addressing it because I thought he didn't treat Kyrie well and I thought Kyrie deserved better from Stephen A. But when he started saying, yeah, but that COVID 19 thing, when he started specifically talking about the conspiracy theories, it didn't quite make sense to me. But it felt like he was trying to play to that right wing audience again, who he wants to watch. His platform, it felt less like an apology to Kyrie and more like another way of him saying, look, look, Republicans, I'm here, I'm here.

[B]

I didn't get that draft.

[A]

Also, he's been on his show talking about his opinions toward Mom. Dummy. Yes. Now that I think about it like, this is all in the same kind of run.

[B]

See, I didn't. The COVID thing. I didn't get the political angle. I didn't get the political angle. I got the angle that, yo, I. I really, really, really, for weeks upon weeks ridiculed this man for this. And now all of the quote, unquote, expert opinions are coming out, out that are now condemning this thing that they were trying to forcefully make all of us take. And I kind of feel stupid. So I'll walk it back a little bit. You gotta walk it back. But again, that pride come in. So you can't just totally be humiliated and humbled. You gotta put a little oomph to it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I took.

[E]

Hey, I'm not really a sports guy. Watching it, it just. It made me realize that no matter how much money you have, man, man ego's a motherfucker. I'm seeing a man in his mid. You know, we met him. I don't know how old he is, but trying to prove that he's not a punk.

[C]

I think he's 60ish.

[E]

Trying to prove that he's not a punk. Wanting Lebron to say he wants to have a conversation by. In public, like, approaching him in public in front of the cameras. He's saying that it's a conspiracy, that he was set up. And I'm listening to this man, and I'm like, I agree with Mark. I would hope that he take the high road. Cause I understand what he was saying. You know, I kind of agreed, like when he said that LeBron, you putting me in a position. You don't want us to. On one hand, you want us to respect your son. That's your son. But if he plays and he comes in, you're also telling us not to do our job. So I kind of agreed with him on there, but saying that, you know, I want. He was saying that how much he have relationships with other people other than basketball players, that they could just call me, but LeBron wouldn't pick up the phone and call me to squash it or tell me he. He wants to meet me. It just. It was ego. He wanted approval from LeBron, wanting acknowledgement from LeBron to me. And I felt like sometimes you two people, you're not gonna mesh with everyone. You know what I mean? And LeBron is probably one of the people that feel like, nigga, I don't have to be cool with you. Cause everybody else is cool with you. I don't fuck with you like that. And that was a thing for me just watching Stephen A. And I met him, very nice guy, but money don't. Money don't. I had a conversation with Ish when I told him this money doesn't change you. Meaning like, money doesn't make you more. More mature. You were one to take the high road. You have all this money, but you want to prove that you're tough. It's crazy to me at 60 years old.

[B]

See, I stand. And I've ripped Stephen A. Smith a couple times up here. I stand with him in that. I think that both of them are at the peak of their respective fields, right? And I think that that in Popularity and probably in money. Stephen A. Smith does pale in comparison to LeBron James. However, as a man, I don't have to cater to you the same way. You feel as though I'm not worthy of a phone call, then fuck you, dawg. I don't have to call you neither. And I think that based on the masses being in love with LeBron, you know what I mean? Like, we kind of demonize Stephen A. Smith a little. And I kind of understood him in that particular point. I wasn't totally against what he said.

[F]

I didn't get the whole, like, being set up on camera. Because at the end of the day, no matter what the angle is, if a man approach you in an aggressive way and you getting back at him, then you could feel that you could see that on camera. I don't give a fuck what the angle is. So if the truth is he approached you and you bitched up, that's what the fuck happened on camera. So it's like, why? I don't. I mean, if.

[D]

Or he was taking the high road.

[F]

Being professional, but either way, you can't frame it. That they purposely. That sounds crazy to me, that it's.

[A]

Only when pressure is wrong, though.

[D]

I think they did set him up.

[B]

I think they set him up, and I think that you can't publicly.

[F]

Wait, who set him up?

[D]

When I say set him up, what I mean is I think that the cameras were where they're supposed to be. I think he approached me. LeBron is very thoughtful and calculated. He didn't just haphazard, operate at a rage and just run up on Stephen A. He could see Stephen A. Whenever. I think he did it at a certain moment when certain people would be there, when certain people wouldn't be there. And I think he knew exactly where those cameras were.

[A]

Oh, I disagree with that.

[D]

Really.

[F]

And it's so corny.

[A]

And let me tell you, when he saw him is the. Whenever I'm gonna see you, you play these big ESPN games. We're the Lakers, we get them, I'm gonna bump into you, and that's what it's gonna be. I don't think that. I think he's thoughtful in what he was doing. I also just think that game landed at that time slot. He was there. And now. Now that's what it is with you.

[B]

You don't think that LeBron James knows that they are going to read my mouth? Every basketball player in the world goes like this when they speak.

[A]

Great.

[B]

Because we know that these cameras are on at all times. So I'M gonna purposely come.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. He wanted to be heard.

[E]

Stephen A. Said he approached him in the third quarter, Joe. So that makes it a little more calculated. He said, I was there since the first quarter. You came to me in the third quarter. No other cameras was there, and that camera was behind me. So I can see what Steven is getting to you.

[A]

Before the game is over, I don't give a fuck, okay? Before this game is over, I'm getting over there.

[B]

Cause even if it wasn't them cameras, somebody's gonna have a camera phone out when I approached you.

[E]

That's for sure.

[A]

But I'm not trying to debate whether it was on purpose or not.

[E]

Got it.

[A]

His message was sent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've only heard LeBron speak about that one time after which is on Pat McAfee.

[D]

Right.

[A]

And they both kind of was getting they off on. On Stephen A. So it appeared. So Stephen A kind of has been on a run since then. I've heard him speak about this. A million places with a million people.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Stephen A.

[A]

Say like, whatever happened, leave it there. Leave it there. Like, yo, if we fought in 09, or you stepped to me in the lunch line and like, that's what happened. Leave it there. Like, why I'm not with the media runs after fights. I've never been a fan of that.

[E]

You know how you know he wants LeBron approval? Because he stated that LeBron going on Pat McAfee offended him the most.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

So it's like, yo, you went on this. He said you went on this white boy show that's after me. Like, this ESPN is my home. I've been number one in the Raiders for so many years. And you go on Pat McAfee Show.

[A]

Well, that's the other way that we gonna beef. I'm not just stepping to you at the Celtics Lakers game while the cameras are rolling. Exactly. We corporate banging, too.

[B]

I'm calculated. I'm going to go sit quicker here on purpose.

[A]

You got a beef with Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee makes what he makes versus what you make. He gets the main slot, Sports center, whatever, yada, yada, yada. I'm going to sit right there and we going to laugh at you together. Cool.

[B]

So objectively then, I could go on every platform in the world and I can make my run. That's going to bring some value to me. And I could dish your ass at every time I sit down. I wouldn't do it. But if we going to say we playing a corporate Banging game. And that's his idea. I mean his way of corporately banging then I'm not gonna knock him for that. But how's that banging on LeBron like him going to sit on Pat McAfee bangs directly on Steven Smith. You just sitting here talking about me on the pivot.

[A]

You're not affected.

[B]

That ain't my comp. I'm just saying he did that more than just on the pivot. I think he went on a year long diatribe of dissing the shit outta LeBron James. So if that's his idea of getting at LeBron James. James and getting my story out, then so be it. I wouldn't.

[D]

But I think it's less about getting at LeBron. I agree with you. But I think, I think it's less about getting at LeBron and more about affirming his manhood.

[B]

That part too.

[D]

Like I could, I can fight. Yo, I did this. Oh, that video with me, you know, boxing. My shoulder was out. Like it's a lot of that.

[E]

Yo, Joe, I have a question for you.

[A]

What's up?

[E]

I want to advance this real quick. You were one of the people that said to Stephen A. You know, or said even to Mark, you don't feel that someone should. Should comment on anyone's child. Yo, you should leave your son alone. After hearing Stephen A. Stephen A. Speak on it, do you still stand on that belief?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Even if your son is a basketball.

[A]

Player and we spoke about another second round pick since. Stop it. That's my opinion. You asked me my opinion.

[E]

Okay. I just wanted to.

[A]

I'm not trying to argue it. Yes, I got you stand.

[E]

You stand on the. Even if he's the basketball player, Even if it's our job to speak about sports and speak about how your son is playing and speak about his average and everything. You feel like if it's LeBron's son, you should exclude him. Don't speak on him.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Unless we say good things.

[B]

I was just gonna say if he's killing, speak on him then. Or no.

[A]

If he's killing. Sure, go ahead.

[B]

That's what a problem.

[D]

And that's what I don't like if either we gonna talk about him or we not. And I'm okay with being at a school that, you know, I don't think.

[A]

It was cool for the TDE niggas to mention my son or the. Oh, that's pseudo TDE to mention my son.

[D]

No matter what the fuck I feel.

[A]

Come up here and say about Dolce.

[D]

Yeah. To me that's different.

[A]

What's the difference?

[D]

The difference is if your son.

[A]

What is the difference?

[D]

I'm telling you, if your son came up here and spit a freestyle, I don't think it's crazy for them to then judge the freestyle because he's putting himself on the platform to be analyzed. Brody James is playing in the NBA, so I think he's putting himself in a position to be analyzed. Now. I don't think he should get treated worse or better than other people. But the NBA is always about. Now narratives. We talk about LeBron in the summertime when he's not doing. We talk about like, NBA, NBA, the.

[B]

Cowboys, the Lakers, the.

[A]

The.

[B]

The pencil movers.

[A]

See, but that. See, but you say we, and that's not we. That's them that do that. Off season for LeBron is an off season for me for talking about LeBron.

[B]

That's you not the sports journalist.

[D]

You know what I want.

[A]

But he said we. I wanted to.

[D]

I should say that's fair. That's fair.

[A]

When the. The Lakers, the Cowboys, the people you talking about, about. That's not me. And I don't know that that's us.

[D]

Yeah, I think it's sports journalism is really what I mean. That's what I meant to say.

[E]

So.

[B]

So let's say this hypothetically and close.

[A]

Me out on this, because There is more LeBron talk. Cool.

[B]

COOPER Flag comes out. He's a bust, right? That's somebody's son. Cooper Flag comes out right now. He's the number one pick in the draft, and he lays a goose egg. Every single sports commentator in the world is going to be on his ass.

[D]

All right.

[A]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm only speaking about. About when you know the dad for X amount of years, and we're talking.

[D]

About them because it's their son. Like, no one talking about K Flag because he's somebody's son. But you see what I'm saying? We talking about BRONNIE because it's LeBron Son. Which again, I'm okay with that.

[B]

Me too.

[D]

If he's in the NBA now, if he's in Germany, play. I'm not gonna put videos. Watch this kid play.

[A]

Like, I believe that. That Stephen A. Believes and believed everything that he said about Kyrie as it relates to COVID 19 scene in the middle, in the midst of it happening. I think that he believes that stuff.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I think that after he had a conversation with Kyrie's dad, who he does have a relationship with, he gained understanding and now he's on his platform saying, nah, that I see it a different way now.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And I think fact.

[A]

If you have a relationship with the dad. I don't think. I don't.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Only me. I don't think that you get to operate, tolerate like all of the other pundits.

[B]

I would agree with that. But they don't have a relationship. And the other side is if you don't have that part, that part is cool. Don't take it out on the sun.

[A]

Yeah. But don't looks like.

[D]

Don't use my son.

[A]

Don't use my son to shoot at me.

[B]

I don't like you. So I'm shooting at you through him, basically.

[A]

And I think that's corny.

[B]

You could just for the rest of my life without making it like I get my off. I think all of that is corny if you are doing that. And I just don't mean me. I don't have it as him doing that.

[A]

Lastly, I want to talk about the LeBron Russell Westbrook rumors.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Where three teams later, they're saying what Russell Westbrook thought about his time on the Lakers and his relationship with Braun. He says, and I don't know if this is true or not, but this is being widely reported. LeBron quietly pushed for a reunion with Kyrie Irving, a move that would have required trading Russell Westbrook despite publicly denying it. LeBron often said, Let Russ be Russ in interviews, but didn't actually support him behind the scenes. During a Lakers team event where Will Smith came to speak, LeBron and AD suddenly walked out before he arrived. Minutes later, they returned acting overly friendly. LeBron dominated the talk, asking questions and quoting movie lines. Westbrook, allegedly watching in disbelief, told a teammate after I hate that fake shot. I just can't do it. Boy, Russell Westbrook sounds like me. Westbrook saw Multiple examples of LeBron misrepresenting himself, like claiming the Godfather was his favorite movie, but not knowing a single line. Carrying the autobiography of Malcolm X to interviews without being able to be substitute and even saying he predicted Kobe's 81 point game. These moments made Russ believe that LeBron was inauthentic. Now, again, we don't know if these reports are true or not or how relevant they are. Right. Like this is three years ago that Russell Westbrook was on the Lakers, so who cares? But it is. It is worth mentioning.

[D]

Yeah. And I've seen video of Russell Westbrook signing jerseys. Fans had different jerseys. He wouldn't sign a Lakers jersey. So there is. There's something there. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with Russell having his own analysis of the Lakers situation. LeBron personally, if he thinks LeBron was inauthentic. I think a lot of superstars are inauthentic. I think that's a tough thing. I'm with Russell, like, fuck the fake shit. I'm not gonna pretend I'm with all that. But I think we also have to be honest that to be a superstar, almost by definition, there's a level of performance that goes with that. What are you supposed to do when Will Smith come up? Now, you ain't got to pretend you watch the Godfather's your favorite movie. You ain't got to pretend to have read Malcolm X and always be on page two of every book you ever hold up. And you ain't got to sit there on an exercise bike with a book. I get all that. That's bullshit. But like, there's a level of fakeness that comes with being a superstar. I just don't know how you don't do that. Michael Jordan, I mean, who's been a superstar who didn't do that? Maybe Muhammad Ali a lot.

[B]

It's a lot of people that don't necessarily play into the media shit, but they schmooze.

[D]

I'm talking about because the Will Smith was kind of behind the scenes schmoozing.

[B]

Because you don't have to do that stuff. You could come there and be representative of who you are at your core without all the shucking.

[D]

Then you become Tim Duncan.

[A]

See, a lot of times people believe.

[B]

That being it's a medium.

[A]

Being brand and image conscious means that. That you are not being yourself.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

And I disagree with that. I totally disagree with that. I think that your brand is your brand. And I think when you are as big as Michael Jordan, LeBron James, the Rock hard Joe Button, the brand will align with who they know you are. You don't have to be somebody else to attract the brand. I think that who the fuck not gonna give LeBron an endorsement deal. You get what I'm saying? So I think that you'll make the brands come to your side of the cracker barrel. He don't need them. So that's my thing. And they would definitely do a deal with LeBron so that. That, that's what I think. I don't think you got to be inauthentic to. To attract money when the money is oozing out of you.

[A]

They would do a deal with you.

[B]

They do a deal with you too.

[A]

I wouldn't do it, though.

[B]

I know you would.

[A]

I wouldn't do it. That's the difference between me and you. No, it's not. Not. You would take the Cracker Barrel bag. I wouldn't.

[B]

No.

[D]

What's wrong with the Cracker Barrel bag?

[B]

Nothing. He's talking. Okay, that is talking.

[A]

That's all.

[D]

Just him being him.

[A]

Got it. What else needs our attention?

[D]

Your boy Chris Brown getting money on his tour.

[B]

Shouts to them, tour just wrapped. And we. The. The final reported number was how much?

[D]

241. 241 million dollars.

[F]

Such a.

[B]

And that ain't counting the after parties.

[A]

The.

[B]

The photos, the like, hey, man, let's go.

[D]

Is.

[B]

Hey, man, hit him up for, you know, n. Congratulations. The reports are 241. He got another album, they said right. Damn near about to be released.

[F]

Brown sneaking up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They said he not playing.

[D]

When that kind of money comes into your family.

[B]

I don't know him, okay?

[D]

He's stepping all over my.

[B]

I've never met him.

[D]

He's really.

[F]

It really is your family?

[B]

It's my family, but I never.

[F]

But do you have his number?

[B]

No, I've never met him. Probably if I tried.

[F]

Let's call him.

[B]

I'm good.

[E]

Call who for what? I ain't gonna lie. They had a video act.

[F]

They don't look alike.

[A]

See, Even that's kind of what I mean about Foolish Pride. Foolish man. Pride. Pride. Do you think that's an example of that?

[F]

Yes.

[B]

Not at all. Let me ask you this.

[E]

It's not foolish.

[A]

I think it's pride.

[B]

If he worked at McDonald's and he. He my cousin that I never met, would I go out my way to get his phone number?

[F]

You wouldn't know.

[D]

You would not.

[B]

What's the difference?

[F]

He's faint.

[D]

The difference.

[C]

He works at McDonald's.

[D]

Easy.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Chris Brown, y' all in the same. Y. Y' all in the Jason Fields, too, right?

[F]

I'll give you example.

[D]

I'll give you example. Like Mike will. We go to the same family reunions. We go to the same. Like, we're not blood, but we're family. Right? Cause we share cousins. Right? People are like, y' all need to meet. Now, he's been. We've been together since I was a kid, but as an adult, I had never met him. We're in the same. We're both in journalism. So, yes, I'm gonna reach out to him versus if he worked at Cinnabon, because we have a relationship to each other. And it makes sense.

[B]

You guys have been in the same spaces since you were children, you said.

[D]

Right. But I was intentional when I was younger. He's older than me, but I was intentional about going to a place he was. It was our family's house just so we could lay. You know what I mean? So when we see each other, it's not weird.

[B]

If I saw Chris Brown at Battery day, I wouldn't intentionally go over there because he's over there.

[D]

But would you walk up to him and say, hey, I'm your cousin? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, but he would probably.

[D]

I'm asking you a question. Would you walk up to him and.

[B]

Say, hey, I'm your cousin? No, I would walk up to him and speak to him. Like, I would do any of my other family members that I never met there.

[D]

But you wouldn't identify, like, oh, I.

[B]

Wouldn'T go up to him specifically because he's Chris Brown and introduce myself. I would go up to all of my family members and introduce myself.

[D]

That's pride. I think it's pride.

[E]

It's not foolish pride, though.

[D]

It's just pride. This is foolish.

[E]

No, no, no.

[A]

Joe said earlier I had to take foolish job, man. Pride.

[E]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Just pride and where it pops up.

[F]

At all I could think, because you.

[E]

Don'T want to look at a certain way, right? You don't want to see.

[B]

No, because I think that's weird that I would intentionally go to Chris Brown as opposed to my other cousins or other family members that I never met and introduce myself. Myself to him, but not introduce myself to him.

[D]

I'm not saying walk past all the other cousins.

[B]

That don't make sense to me.

[A]

You missing what we we're saying. It's not a line of cousins you never met.

[D]

Yes, it is. Right?

[A]

All right, you got it.

[B]

So if there wasn't right, and he was there, yeah, I would introduce myself to him. But again, I would treat him just like I'm treating any of my other family members at my family cookouts.

[F]

My twist, he approaches you, what's up? I've been waving.

[B]

You go to, what up, my nigga?

[F]

All I can think of is you come from a family of beautiful, high yellow niggas. Like, oh, my God, I want to see the rest of these niggas.

[E]

So if somebody come up to you and say, yo, I'm your cousin. Ish. I never met you, you think they weird? No, you said, it's weird if you do it, but you wouldn't think if somebody do that to you, it'd be weird.

[F]

Yeah, good job.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Did you hear what I said? Say what I said in its entirety before your goofies cut it up and put it out. I said y' all would introduce myself to him. Intense. The same way I would introduce. Introduce myself to all of my other family members that are present.

[E]

Okay, we got you. I'm down with you.

[A]

Hey, it's your world. It's your world, man. Broad. What else needs our attention?

[D]

Was that earlier today, my, my ring camera went off.

[A]

Oh, yeah. The ring cameras went down.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Everything Amazon, a few things went down.

[A]

A lot of went down.

[B]

Shut down.

[A]

Yeah, my fantasy app still got my record wrong. Just up out there.

[B]

Oh, that's why my record.

[A]

Yeah. No, no. Apps are up. The ring camera went down. You can't. You can't see.

[C]

Everything secretly relies on AWWs.

[D]

I didn't realize it until my would came back up.

[A]

Most people, it made me want to ask you guys what, what daily function in your life would. Would they. Would you be down bad if they.

[B]

Took away Navy Federal cell site?

[C]

Wi fi.

[D]

Uber eats Wi fi.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

WI Fi.

[A]

Wi fi. Give me more specific than WI Fi.

[B]

Okay, now, WI Fi. I could book.

[D]

For me, it's delivery services. I, I do everything through delivery. So even here, where I bring Dunkin Donuts every day to Dunkin Donuts, I walk past the Dunkin Donuts to get into this building. I still order through through the apps. I've become completely reliant on apps for food, for home deliveries, home whatever. Home supplies. I do everything through the app which say what?

[B]

Porn?

[D]

Don't watch porn. But if I did, I'm sure I would use the. That's what I'm saying. Like, I, I, I, I, I would die without it.

[B]

This whole. Like I said, I said Navy Federal, which online banking. Because I don't deal with cash.

[A]

I knew that was your bank.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's a great.

[F]

What does that mean?

[B]

Nothing.

[F]

Always. It's the way he say. He just.

[D]

He says he's trying to.

[A]

I'm not saying nothing. I just knew that he banked with Navy Federal.

[D]

He's trying to say it's a lunch.

[C]

As his employer, you should. You know.

[A]

That's a great bank.

[D]

What's wrong with you?

[E]

I got usaa.

[A]

Is that the only bank you bank for?

[B]

No, I have banks, but that's the main.

[D]

Let's stop naming our banks before y' all get hacked.

[A]

So stupid.

[B]

Stupid. I'm ignoring.

[A]

They use military time in that. Okay. Come back at 19 o'.

[D]

Clock.

[E]

I got USAA. So we good?

[D]

What is USAA. I'm sorry.

[A]

That's another one. I figured you had USSA.

[E]

My mom was in the Marines, so you got it.

[F]

Is that a credit union?

[E]

No.

[F]

Maybe Federal is a credit union.

[A]

They're really Navy Federal.

[B]

They're really similar.

[F]

You know what? It was a lot of black kids.

[D]

Do they have black people?

[F]

Ran out and got them Navy Federals thinking that they would better than banks.

[A]

Navy Federal was a lone shark.

[F]

That's what you be saying. No, that came out.

[A]

Annabelle Bondsman.

[F]

Listen, it came out. It was all these rumors about people. You could get all these. You know what? Listen. People thought that you go there and you get loans and all this other. And then they came out that it wasn't true. And there was a lot of predatory loans for people that were, like, poor, I think. I thought that was a known thing.

[B]

Everywhere is predatory loans when you're.

[F]

Yes, but people went in Rose to Navy Federal. I thought because they thought they were going to look out for black people. I'm not playing about this. I thought that was like, a thing.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

Because I went out and got my Navy Federal and they were saying that's what you're supposed to have. I did that.

[B]

How much you got?

[F]

No, I didn't get nothing. I'm just saying. But when everybody was running around doing it, I was a part of that. Like, okay, I want to, you know.

[A]

I need to call my mom and find out the name of that little green card bank I used to have. It took me one time to go in there and look around. I'm like, all right, say less. This will be my last time. Last time with y'. All.

[F]

Td.

[A]

No, no, it's not td. It's some, like, Navy Federal.

[F]

It's not.

[D]

What technology could you not live without?

[A]

What technology or. The only question you asked us, My Keurig.

[D]

Oh, that's.

[C]

I just got a nice new espresso.

[A]

My keurig would make. Would make my days longer.

[C]

No espresso.

[D]

I need to.

[A]

You.

[D]

I need. I need you to step up your game. No more keurigs. But, you know, I'm gonna gift you something for.

[A]

People keep saying that. People keep saying that to me like.

[C]

I just got the espresso machine, man. Change your life.

[B]

Nespresso.

[D]

Espresso machine.

[C]

Espresso.

[A]

I only drink espresso when I go to Ferrari. And they. They make it.

[B]

You can.

[D]

You can.

[C]

You can do it at home.

[D]

I'll show you how to do it.

[A]

Miles.

[D]

Who am I?

[B]

You ain't even hear this? No, they got A machine called Nespresso. It's like five starts with an end.

[D]

Y' all. Stop with the cur. This is all too basic, y'.

[F]

All.

[D]

I'm trying to tell y'.

[F]

All.

[C]

He's right.

[D]

I'm gonna get y' all some. I'm gonna get y' all some machines to do it.

[B]

I'm telling you, that Nespresso machine is a banger. You could froth the. The cream and all that. Spin the. For you. You could do all that.

[D]

You can get your cream froth.

[A]

Think I want to wake up and drink froth?

[C]

Yes, it's delicious.

[D]

According to the guy in the sneaker store, you're the froth.

[F]

Exactly. Stop.

[E]

Yo. See.

[A]

But what else? What else we need? What else we need to get to.

[B]

Mark was talking about his ring and you kind of stepped on it and told.

[D]

No, no, no, it's cool. This is where I wanted to go with. I know you were clowning me. You tried clowning me about earlier.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I was on my ring cam, cuz when it started working again and I heard my doorbell ring. So I answered it and it was two very nice black women, well Dr. Dressed on my door. And because of where I live, two well dressed black women don't belong at my door.

[B]

Whoa, whoa. Got him.

[A]

We got him.

[D]

I was like. Like nobody. Door to door should be. You know what I mean?

[B]

So I said, yo, what's wrong with you?

[D]

I was, no, I'm just saying, like people. I don't have any neighbors that look like that, so why.

[B]

I lived in your town for a long time.

[D]

You did not live in my part of the town.

[B]

I looked on the other side of the tracks.

[D]

You were the other side of the tracks.

[C]

Literally.

[B]

So out of your mind.

[D]

All I said was, are you all Jehovah's Witnesses just shooting in the dark? And they said, yes. And I said, no, thank you. Please don't ever come back again. And he says that that's over the top and wrong.

[F]

Hell no, I ain't gonna hold you.

[A]

That was most of ours. First time here, hearing somebody speak back.

[E]

To them, like, you gotta ignore them. We ignore them.

[A]

That's worse.

[F]

That's worse. Having them knock and knock and you weren't even home.

[B]

You ain't had to answer.

[D]

But they go back.

[F]

You did it from your app?

[D]

I did it from right here.

[B]

Right there.

[A]

I didn't even know them was still out.

[B]

I ain't know either.

[A]

I ain't going to hold. I thought they was going with TV Guide. I thought that was a 80s thing.

[D]

No, they still out witnesses, they're strong people.

[E]

They can take all type of disrespect. They don't feel offended. Yo, move we. No, no, thank you. They still stand there trying to be like, well, you have a good day and come back.

[B]

Watchtower.

[D]

And no disrespect to Jehovah Witnesses. I respect anybody who wants to proselytize. I did it. You know, I've been in different situations.

[E]

You the Jehovah Witness before?

[D]

No, no, I'm just saying like I've been in organizations where part of the call is to knock on doors or to reach out to people. You know, in Islam you do dawah, right?

[F]

You.

[D]

But you don't go to people's house. So I'm cool with that. But once I. I don't want them to come back. And a lot of times people, most of us just hide behind the couch. You grew up. It was like, everybody be quiet. I ain't doing that shit no more. I pay too much taxes to be hiding behind my couch. I told them don't come back no more.

[A]

Are you taking your kid trick or treating this year?

[D]

It's Halloween is on a show night. So it's up to you, Mr. Joe.

[A]

Oh, oh, you're not then. You're not then.

[F]

Y' all do that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

That is. Is disgusting.

[A]

I don't do that.

[D]

What?

[F]

Trick or treating is disgusting?

[A]

Nastiest ghetto ever.

[F]

It's disgusting. It's horrible.

[A]

It's dangerous.

[F]

It's kind of demonic. It's dangerous. All I can remember as a kid, all I can remember as a kid was the fear of knives being in the candy and drugs. That was like the big thing. You get the candy, you either hiding it from people cuz you don't feel like them searching it, AKA stealing it from you. Then you eating it scared, dreaming that you going to eat right razors. It's just disgusting. I can't believe that any of our parents even let us do that. My children don't go unless you trick or treat. Go.

[B]

I just did this weekend where they do trunk or treat.

[C]

Why you do it so early?

[F]

That's how they do it.

[B]

That's early enough because they knew people was going to be trick or treating them probably on Halloween. So they did it last weekend.

[E]

He got the pumpkin outfit.

[D]

Freeze.

[A]

Yeah, boy.

[E]

Get the on boy. I said the truck or treat.

[A]

Yeah, I got it.

[B]

No, go ahead, finish.

[D]

No, I'm sorry.

[B]

I won't step on nobody.

[A]

Just sorry.

[E]

No, I'm not, not A joke, G. You went to Trunk or treat.

[B]

But no, and we do trick or treating as well.

[F]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Like, it's like where I live. It's a whole.

[F]

Oh, the community does it together.

[B]

Yeah. Everybody, like, damn. Everybody participates.

[F]

So. But it's just. It's just like, on. Honestly, y', all, it's so gross. People don't even. Yo, we. The whole country just shut down because won't wash their hands. So y' all want my kids to knock on niggas door?

[E]

That's not why we shut down, but, you know.

[F]

No, that is why we shut down. That Dan, if we were hand washers, Kova wouldn't have spread like that. Flip. That's a fact. People don't wash their hands. That's why I got like that.

[A]

America's dirty.

[F]

It's nasty. Flip. If we were hand washers, it wouldn't have been that bad, babe. Yeah, that's a fact. People are nasty like that.

[B]

I'm going just tell you how often.

[F]

You go to the bathroom and nobody washes their hands. You see it a lot, right?

[A]

I wash my hands.

[D]

I wash my hands.

[F]

Of course y' all do the bathroom.

[B]

And don't wash their hands. At this age, you are a he disgust.

[F]

I see women.

[B]

Women are terrible.

[F]

I just watched white girls on a podcast probably a year ago. Like, dude, I never watched my.

[B]

Like, what? Why would I wash my hands?

[F]

Because I touched my own butt and they was dead serious about it.

[A]

Oh, that's when the whole world found out that white people don't really wash up at all.

[F]

Yeah, because, you know, I don't know if everybody knows at home that some whites just soap up and let the soap go between the toes. You know how we go down there digging that? They just let the soap lay on it.

[A]

I feel like white people need to be studied the way they study everybody. White people, if they start just sharing about their whiteness, we going to learn some what them. I'm telling you right online. Yo, why you have to wash your legs?

[F]

Like.

[A]

Yes, you white.

[F]

Remember when it came out that they don't watch the kids?

[A]

Yes.

[F]

They don't bathe the children. They don't bath the children.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

They not watch them kids.

[D]

What y' all mean? Wait, hold up.

[F]

They don't bathe the children.

[B]

That's why my baby keep getting.

[F]

Excuse me. I watched this white woman, and she just was just being regular candid, and she was talking about how it doesn't make any sense to bathe a kid every day because their skin is not good for their. Okay. It's not good for their skin because like, I don't know, you know, I've raised babies and wiped ass and all that. They gotta get there, they gotta get washed up. And it's like, you don't necessarily have to dunk these niggas in hot scoling water and scrub their backs. But yeah, niggas need to wipe down behind them ears and their belly button. Culturally, we wash our ancestors asses. They don't.

[D]

So that's the point though, culturally, I'm saying, like if you send your kid to school every day, you should watch them every day because they. There's so many germs in their plant and all that. But if they're at home with you, you don't necessarily. Early ages have to wash them every day. And I think sometimes that's a cultural thing. I do it because it's a cultural thing. And y' all talk shit about me. But culturally, like, it's not because it.

[F]

Snacks smell like cheese when it's a baby. You got to wipe that nigga down. Mark, please.

[D]

It's hard, y'.

[F]

All.

[D]

I don't know.

[F]

Nah, it's weird. It's a cultural baby.

[A]

Wipes on it. Come on, bro, wipe them down. Wipe them down.

[F]

You don't have to put. I'm not talking about tub of water, bubbles everywhere, scrub whole full thing. But yeah, you have to wash. You.

[A]

Gotta put them in the sink every day. Fill it all up. Come on.

[F]

Oh, please, please.

[D]

So, so Joe, when you have your next round of kids, if you do right. No, no, no. Trigger treat.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm not with that.

[F]

Hell no.

[A]

You talking to somebody. I don't ever put a Christmas tree up. Like, I don't.

[B]

I'm just, I'm not a fan of Halloween.

[F]

My kids never.

[B]

I don't do Halloween because of like.

[A]

Wait, y' all name's Joe, cuz Like.

[D]

Like, like for you, it's like the religious spiritual stuff.

[B]

It's a, it's a, it's a bunch of like. Think about all of the Halloween costumes. Think about most of the stuff that it relates to. All of that. I'm not with none of that. The Halloween costume, the kids was Power Rangers. Rangers, Batman.

[D]

My son is gonna be Mickey Mouse.

[B]

It's little shit that they like. You got what you said, what it relate to? What do the costumes relate to? Traditionally? What does Halloween relate to? Well, that's the adults, they take it and do all.

[A]

It's gonna say all that and be right at the liney ass La La Halloween party.

[B]

Not with a. Anyway, bro, like I was saying, fake. It's not my thing.

[D]

I got you.

[B]

I mean, some people connect to witches, devils, warlocks. That is the tradition of Halloween.

[F]

What are we talking about?

[B]

No, no, dumb Mickey Mouse, man. Ate the tradition of Halloween. We just playing dumb.

[D]

We just.

[A]

Josh. Shit.

[B]

Yo, stop.

[A]

We just. Josh.

[D]

I feel what you. I'm not playing.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

It's definitely connected to some of that stuff. You know, I just find that. I think that holidays and festivals can be reworked. And I think in modern times, people do different things with it than they did in the past. Just like every Valentine's Day, people do that, right? They go, you know who St. Valentine was? Like, that's not. Not necessarily how people think about it now. And I think it's okay. Or Thanksgiving.

[B]

Thanksgiving.

[D]

Thanksgiving's a good one. I mean, that's nothing but a colonizer holiday. But I think black people fellowship with us. When we get together on Thanksgiving, we're not celebrating.

[A]

We're not doing that. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. So I don't assume that because something had a meaning before that it has to be that meaning. I'm not telling you to do it. I'm just saying I feel like people who are doing it aren't necessarily engaging that stuff.

[A]

I just feel like I could buy my own Twix, period.

[D]

But that's.

[B]

Why are we begging?

[F]

Of course. Why are we begging? The neighbors. Yeah, like, daddy got it.

[A]

The neighbors got the little.

[F]

Daddy got it.

[D]

They got the little Snickers.

[B]

I could buy experience.

[A]

You ain't knocked on that neighbor door in five years.

[D]

Shut up.

[A]

Here you come now. Trick or treat with your little bastard. No.

[B]

Go to the supermarket. The candy's on sale.

[E]

Get it yourself.

[F]

I hate it.

[D]

You don't want to get. You don't want to build community with your neighbors.

[A]

No.

[F]

And to you. What you said, Mark?

[D]

They've already seen your little Snickers.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, Mark said, baby S. They see.

[F]

You big be twice.

[D]

You'll catch it later on the reboot.

[A]

This is a good one. I live in the white neighborhood like you, nigga. I ain't trying to knock on no door. Hey, nigger, here. I live here. This is my son.

[D]

You know what they do in my neighborhood, though? They have like the Saturday before, at least for the younger kids, where they have a Halloween party like that Sunday. So you're not knocking door to door or if you are as date. It's broad daylight. Everybody sits up on their lawn. They set up the table she's coming collect candy. It's.

[B]

That's how the trick or treat.

[A]

See, I like around Christmas time, I like shout out to you houses that do all the decorating and it's the whole block lit up and now you get to take your kid and walk or drive and it's a whole town community type of thing. Everybody's out with the kids. Yeah, I do like that.

[D]

Yeah, I do like that.

[A]

One, two. I forgot to mention in my Kids Empire story that I am judging my kid for going to Kids Empire without another kid friend and having, having fun.

[D]

Yo, I saw the instant picture of him laid out on the thing.

[A]

That wasn't him. That was another kid that had died in that little kid death. That wasn't my kid.

[B]

You ain't never had to go up in there.

[A]

I wouldn't let my kid, I don't let my kid do that. I don't let my kid do that.

[D]

It makes sense because the rule of.

[A]

The place is only two kids at a time. They're understaffed because the economy. They don't have somebody there making sure it's two kids at a time.

[B]

So you, you got these little tiny.

[A]

Tiny miniature toddler daughters, girls in there. Big ass 12 year old, 9 year old dude come. Nah, I don't let my kid do none of that. Not at all. None of it.

[F]

I mean it is a recipe for disaster. Cause shit go down in there. That's why you always see fights break out. Cause people see their kids getting shoved.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But have fun on the little, on the big slide. And even that could cause a little fight depending on who's at the bottom of the slide and how fast they move.

[B]

They don't move out the way right away.

[F]

I just don't want my kid to be scared. So I'm always like, yo, do it like whatever ride it was, you know what I mean? I used to literally trick my kids to get on roller coasters and all that. Cuz I just don't want them to have fear about stuff like that. So.

[A]

And I could tell what parents at the spot got the gun in the trunk. Like some of you parents reek of gun Potter. Oh my God. Anyway, what else we got? What else we got?

[D]

You.

[A]

I'm dying to know why Pizza Hut is written on the board. But we don't have to right this second.

[D]

I was gonna tell you that's just where I was going.

[A]

Oh, let's do it then.

[D]

Cause you all were talking about the whites and one of the things I was wondering about Lately is, are they more emboldened in the era of Trump? Like, do they. Yes, of course. I'm talking in everyday life.

[A]

Right.

[D]

So the reason I ask is because things been going around the web. Today, a woman was in Pizza Hut speaking Spanish, and apparently that made somebody really unhappy, dawg. She started calling out to the woman, speak English. English is the capital of America.

[C]

Huh?

[B]

She said the capital.

[D]

She said, english is the capital of America. And the woman tried to fly back, well, I speak English and Spanish. I speak two languages. What do you speak? And she said, english is the capital of America. Now that would be the end of it, except she then called ice.

[A]

What?

[D]

She called ice.

[B]

Not me.

[D]

No, no, not you. Although it might have ended the same way. The ICE agent showed up.

[F]

What is she, an employee or a customer?

[D]

She was a customer ordering a pizza. Now, to pizza's credit, they did not serve the racist white woman her pizza.

[A]

Okay, good.

[D]

Shout out to them.

[C]

That's good.

[D]

Also, the woman was from Puerto Rico.

[B]

So she was American.

[D]

Yeah. And she said, you need to self deport back to Puerto Rico.

[C]

I mean, when I see major news pundits having a problem with this, I, I, it's hard to blame the rural racist white lady at the pizza. Yeah, like when CNN or Fox rather is up there saying that these immigrants are going to be performing at the halftime show, talking about Bad Bunny being a Puerto Rican, how do I expect the racist lady to, to get it?

[D]

See, I can't tell if the whites are getting worse or if I'm just getting more, more, more.

[B]

They're getting worse. No, it's not. They're getting worse. They're, they're empower.

[C]

They're empowered.

[B]

They're not hiding it anymore.

[F]

Great example. Normally you get to a traffic thing with a wat. If you're at the light, this looks straight. He might cuss at you, cut you off, but he'll look straight. Now at the light, they waiting you. It's like an energy on it. First of all, white people are infamously historically newsy. A white person will come out and say, that's a handicap. Why are you parked there? You don't work at the ppa. You're not parking authority. We at the Walgreen together. You know what I mean? But for some reason, you're supposed to tell me, I can't park in Hank. That's just how white people are. Right? So now with this badge of like, I'm tough and I'm safer. Right? It's like, now I'm gonna do it A little more emphasis. Especially when you add the thing about calling the police. Because that was, like, a thing. It was such a thing. Certain counties started to, like, make it. If you call the police for no reason, you get in trouble. Because that's how much white people were calling the police on black people for just being black in public. You know what I mean? And it's like when a white person says to you, I'mma call the cops, that doesn't mean I'mma call the cops. That means I'mma get you shot. That's what that means. Right, Right. So it's just. I don't know, it's. I hate it and I. I wish one of y' all would like. It's just when I see them clips and people taping people call me a again or say it again. You're not going to get that from me. I can't hold this phone for when I'm ready to do to Heather in this cvs. Like, I'm just not. It's not happening.

[B]

Heather's going to be holding the phone.

[F]

But, you know, she going, if she can hold, hold on to it for too long. And this the thing, though, right? The other thing to add to it is it's like. It's always like that. We are the people that are being excited or being aggressive bringing whatever, Right? But it's a very aggressive thing to walk up to a stranger and give them direction. So the fact that we supposed to pretend like that's.

[D]

Why is this bothering you? I'm just ordering my pizza and now I'm speaking Spanish to my peoples.

[F]

You know what I'm curious about? Do they do it to each other? Perks. The white people do it to that to you?

[D]

What's that like?

[F]

Do a white person just get in your business and tell you what to do for no reason? Is that an experience you had? I've had that experience since I was a kid.

[C]

No, not really.

[F]

Okay, so it is for black people because we need help. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, it's definitely for black people. Anyway, shout out to Pizza Hut again for holding it down and for not. Not serving that woman.

[E]

Hey, yo, listen, speaking on that. Y' all heard about the doordash incident?

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Yes. That was creepy.

[E]

Yo, white lady, no disrespect.

[F]

Who going on the wax?

[C]

I don't know if I identify.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Probably not, judging by the tone.

[E]

She was doing a doordash delivery.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

It was a contactless doordash. Specific directions. Yo, put that shit down and go your way. When she walks up to the door. The man is laying there. Beef out.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[E]

His pants down. He fell asleep. His pants down. He's naked.

[D]

Outside?

[E]

No, on his couch.

[A]

She went.

[D]

The door was open.

[F]

No, no, no. She didn't open.

[B]

Open house. She didn't go in the house.

[E]

The door. Hold on guys. The door was open. So when she walked up, the door was open and he was. He fell asleep on the couch naked. Let's just say that we've all been there. She then records him posts on Tik Tok and said this is sexual harassment.

[F]

O.

[E]

And now she's mad at doordash for canceling her account.

[D]

She basically got fired from Door dash.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

So, okay, I'm sorry. Okay, so basically she, she before. Now you think you're a door dasher. You delivered a person and you think, oh my God, this freak. He purposely picks this contactless delivery. He purposely pulls his pants down to his knees, pulls his penis out because he wants me to see this. Right?

[D]

Sound like you want a contactless.

[F]

Yeah, I'm just. This is. But this is how she took it that he purposely did this in an effort to like indecent exposure kind of vibe. But the problem I had with it. Right. Was when she first posted. Posted it. Number one, she posted it right after it happened. Right. So. And she kept saying what Doordash said and how Doordash handled it. She didn't get a response from doordash. Right. But if that happened that fast and you responded and took his picture and posted it before you took the doordash, why don't you know that you're in the wrong as well? Also, she used the word sexual assault. Now you could correct me, you smart one, right? If indecent exposure is sexual assault, then I get it.

[B]

Harassment.

[F]

I looked at. I thought indecent exposure was more of a harassment kind of thing and not necessarily a physical thing. So when she uses the word I've been sexually assaulted or whatever, it just kind of gave like, what is your angle here? Doordash eventually put out a statement and she. She lost her account and she complained about it and the DoorDash put out a statement. But in my opinion, Doordash wasn't just one question.

[D]

When she posted the picture of him, was it. Was he actually naked? Did you. She blur stuff out?

[F]

She blur his penis out? Yeah, but he looks sleep to me in the picture. He looked like he was. He. You know what he looked like to me? Like he beat off and fell asleep. I. I've caught men like that before.

[D]

She arrived.

[F]

Yes. It looked like he got high.

[E]

Jerk.

[D]

So then he might not have been waiting for. I'm just trying to gauge whether he was.

[E]

So what Door dash said today when they put out a statement is that she the reason why her account is canceled because you recorded him and put his full name out there. You exposed you. That's against the law.

[D]

That's against the law.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. That's against our policies. We gonna take your account away. She's saying that she wants everybody to sort of protest against Doordash because she lost her job. They didn't give her a reason. But Doordash put out a statement today saying that you can't do that.

[D]

Yeah, Doordash. To me, doordash is wrong for everybody in this. In this thing was wrong. Obviously. Let's start with him because if we don't people gonna think. I'm not saying I'm not going.

[E]

To. I'm just listening.

[D]

Yeah. If you order food, just wear pants.

[C]

Or shut the door.

[D]

Or shut the door. Cuz your door is open. Cuz your door is open.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Even if you don't order food, your door shouldn't be open.

[F]

You shouldn't be butt naked on the couch by. It could be Halloween, bro. Dick out.

[D]

But.

[A]

But let's say some nut. I don't think it's that, Joe.

[D]

If I order a pizza and somebody's coming to my door and I'm.

[B]

But I'm not meeting you at the pizza, I'm not meeting. Meeting you at the door for the delivery. I'm in the house and from what I understand, I keep trying to double check. She further pushed the door open. It wasn't wide open.

[D]

Okay, that's different. That's different. See, my understanding was she walks up to the door, the door's wide open. This dude stand in front of her butt ass naked.

[B]

He's laying on the door's over there.

[A]

Keep saying fellas on the couch. And he's. And he's home.

[D]

I was saying she's okay if your door is closed. All I'm saying is.

[F]

And at the end of the day.

[A]

Day, I guarantee it's okay if my door ain't closed.

[B]

You ain't supposed to be in my door in my house.

[F]

It's not.

[A]

You can't cross this threshold. Drop this down with you.

[D]

What I'm saying is my I. You're correcting my understanding. My understanding was she could see him from the door. That's what I'm saying. If you're saying she actually intruded and she only saw him naked because she went too far into the house.

[B]

All right, so now let me ask.

[D]

Then she. Then she's wrong.

[F]

Pause.

[D]

Hold on, let me finish this thought. But either way, you still shouldn't videotape him and put on the Internet. That's a thousand percent wrong.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

And way worse than. Than his being naked on the couch.

[F]

Right?

[D]

Right.

[F]

Because that's the thing with him being naked on the couch and looking sleep. He can defend that. Oh, I. What you're saying is absolutely correct. You cannot fall asleep when you live. Remember where you were poor and you would live in apartments, they would be real small, so somebody stood at your door with the mail. They could see you jerking off in the kitchen. That's the kind of house it was. So if you're laying on that kind of couch, and this is the couch in the front door is where that board is. You can't sit here with your dick stick out if you order doordash because it gets delivered here.

[D]

And that's how she described it. She said it was exhibition because little girls delivered.

[F]

Right. And that's the thing where she played herself at was she took her chance out to even have.

[A]

I don't know about doordash, but there's an age limit on Uber eats, so.

[F]

Would you have to be 21 or 18?

[A]

You can't be underage and doordash too, because that's why kids is using it.

[F]

But 18 is still a kid to you. 21 is still a kid to you. So if you. You would never want a kid to catch you like that.

[E]

You wouldn't.

[D]

Never.

[F]

Right? So what I'm telling you is when you're poor and it's a small house, we ain't talking about no big shit. The door is here, the couch is here, Your dick is out. You're wrong for that. Ordering door dash, period. Nobody should be able to walk to your door and see your pizza.

[B]

So let me ask you a question.

[F]

I'm shocked that you said, let me ask you a question because you wouldn't do it.

[B]

Hold on. Let me ask you a question. What if his window was open and the door was closed?

[C]

What if his shit was little?

[F]

If the window. I don't. Why did you say if the window was open? We could debate a bit. Because now we could talk about black, but with the front door, I'm saying, why?

[B]

Like this ice.

[F]

Listen, with the front door, me as a woman, the first. My first sight of that. I didn't automatically think that she was totally off it made me think she was off because of her words that she used. Used words like monetization, you trying to make money. Use words like sexual assault and ain't nobody touch you. Other than that, I totally believe a freak would fucking place themselves like that to get that excitement of you seeing them like that. Even if they play sleep because they could watch on the camera. Please stop. Like me too but I'm going and the mother. When I was 10, I would go downtown I would catch the train downtown in Philadelphia would flash me will wear Triscos and show me their penises. 50, 60 year old men freaky happen to girls so that's not something that's like crazy and as a person that's maintaining the house a man. Yeah you should know that you can't have your dick out like that after you order food.

[A]

What are we talking about Mona? What's more likely.

[F]

What's more likely what?

[A]

That she full of sleep naked on the couch or he sat there with his tiger bomb ready to have a hard on when she dropped off the food. Which one is more likely to you?

[F]

I ain't going to lie Joe. I'm. I'mma say more likely. I'mma say I don't know bro. Fall asleep with your draws.

[D]

Let me read her account. His pants is at his knees and.

[F]

His draws at his knees. You fell asleep. Come on bro. That's weird.

[D]

You jerked off statement because it's more in line with what I thought. This is what I thought. She said. She said. On October 12, the Door Dash customer requested that their order be left to at their door the mic more When I arrived at their front door, their front door was wide open, their lights were on and they were sleeping on the couch within eyesight of the front door with their pants and underwear pulled down to their ankles and they were indecently exposed to me. To me. That's different than I creep in your house and then I catch you on the. If I could stand at your door and see you butt ass naked. That is. That's all I was saying he did wrong. You can't lay on the couch in front of the door.

[F]

Not in America.

[D]

I don't agree.

[A]

I'm with you there, but that's not how I originally interpreted.

[F]

That's what I heard. That's what I heard.

[D]

That was in the details here.

[F]

And I went out and. Let me. Let me tell y' all further with this. I wasn't convinced it wasn't AI. I don't know why. It just looked like some Fake to me. So I really looked and tried to find her original page because I don't like when I get caught up in them stories and they all fake. So now before I even get upset, before I tweet, before I say a word, before I bring it up on my pot, in the other pot, I'll look around. So when I finally felt the little girl and that's what made me, as soon as I heard her story, it was like, nah. Cuz she kept talking about money and sexual assault. She trying to make a bag. You know, that's what people do. But that's corny to me. I think she got what she deserved as well because she didn't even wait to follow anything from them. She straight just took it her own way. Like door dash been ignored for a month.

[B]

That's where the other problem is today. It's run straight to the Internet. Like if that was an issue, there's. There's proper channels that you go through 911. I. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's proper way to handle that. Not running to the Internet to expose what you saw.

[A]

Where's my food? I was hungry. Doordash. Where did you drop the food, bitch?

[B]

If I'm doing, I sue. I'm suing. I'm suing Doordash and her. But I think that was her end. I think she was gonna try to settle. I think she was gonna try to settle with Doordash. Like let me get. You know what I mean? Or some lawsuit was coming.

[D]

I'm not even sure it was a.

[F]

Lawsuit or just the TikTok bag. The TikTok bag. Nice. Ish. The TikTok bag. Nice.

[D]

I think some people are doing in this era. In this era, people do stuff just for the likes and views.

[A]

Do y' all think Doordash was in the right?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

For letting her go?

[E]

I do.

[C]

Yes, I do.

[D]

They have to.

[B]

They gotta let her go.

[D]

Letting her go, yes, but not. The thing that they were wrong about was because it was only after the public pressure came that they gave a reason. Their policy is you have to give a. You're allowed an appeal. They didn't give her an appeal. And then the second stage of it was they have to give a reason why and they didn't. So I wish they had just said from the beginning, here's why we're letting you go. But letting her go, yes. Now that I understand the video and.

[B]

All of that, you put somebody personal as you doxed them. You can't do that.

[D]

Right. Especially since he wasn't. He didn't necessarily do anything. Again, I think what he did was weird and creepy and he could have been drunk. I don't know what happened, but it's enough gray area there that you shouldn't run to the Internet and show someone's face and naked body even blurred out.

[E]

You see how quick we're willing to go to say weird and creepy instead of saying that the nigga just fell asleep. Right? You see what I'm saying?

[A]

Like, what is joke? Yeah, I don't like that. I think that's whack.

[E]

It's just strange to me. Right? Anything can happen. You could be high, you could be. You could be just had sex. You could. Anything could happen in that moment where you fall asleep naked on the couch. Now the door opened. The person, somebody could have left his girl could have left and left the door open. There's so many reasons. Why do we automatically go to he was being weird and creepy.

[D]

I didn't say he was. I'm saying it was weird and creepy. Meaning.

[E]

Okay, you just said.

[D]

Cause I'm thinking from the other side. If as the young lady arrives at the door, say it's one of our kids. And not that it has to be one of our kids, but just.

[C]

I'm.

[D]

I'm just saying just to humanize it or personalize it rather. If one of our daughters showed up to the door and said, yeah, I showed up to. Or the doordash. The door was wide open. There was a dude right in front of me, butt, ass naked, sleep. And she said that was weird to me. Or I found that creepy. I wouldn't deny it. I'm not putting anything in his head. It could have been exactly what you described. He was drunk, he fell asleep on the couch, his girl left. Left the door. All that could be true, but it doesn't mean that the person didn't experience it as weird. Doesn't mean he did anything wrong. I'm just saying how it felt from the other side.

[A]

Yeah, but also, also, this is why you have doordash ratings. Uber ratings, comment sections. This is why those apps will kick you off if multiple people report you. Like, if this is his first time, like, and there's no record of him like, being a repeat offender. Like, I'm just with giving people the benefit of the doubt of he fell asleep in his house.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Didn't close the door all the way to wind blew it. That happened to me a bunch of times. Not this naked part, but. But your door, you Thinking is closed and the wind fly it open, blow it open so you'll be see. I just hate how America is so quick to call pedophiles and grapists and sexual abusers and sex. Some people were just negligent.

[D]

Yeah. I think in this case and calling a sexual assault was.

[F]

It wasn't sexual assault and that was her. But I think in this case most people jumped on her ass. People peep. Everybody know the tik tok hustle. People, people. She was saying monetization. She made a video like. Like day two complaining that tick tock kept striking the videos. That wasn't a minute. You can't get paid unless they 59 seconds to a minute. So the fact that you even thinking about getting paid while you on this, this is wrong. What happened to me, I lost my job. Also, what I wanted to ask you when you said you think DoorDash is wrong because they didn't email you enough time. I've never had a lot of jobs, I won't lie. But these people that work for these apps, like do they really expect the same treatment that you would get from like HR, a real job from a fucking app.

[D]

DoorDash's policy, I understand it's the policy.

[F]

But in real life, do they really email you from Uber and say you're canceled because Ms.

[D]

Shock Reasons? It's not like a person in the office doing it. It's like they do.

[F]

So you can sue just like a regular job. You could do everything just like a regular job. You know what I mean?

[E]

You can sue.

[B]

Uber is a multi billion dollar conglomerate. So I'm sure they have policies and procedures that are set up probably more than most corporate structures.

[F]

Yeah, I'm probably that old that it just don't feel real insurances and all that stuff. If your daughter not nothing like that. Said you some like that. I think you would drive over there and see that. I know you would. So it's like I don't know. And that's the thing. Y' all are men. No disrespect to nobody. I'm sure some of y' all have fell asleep, draws down, got beat off. Right. The two or three times that's happened to me, it shocked me even was my like what the he doing? Just to see him with his pen stand was drawn, falls down to his knees, vulnerable like that with his dick out. I know my kid, my kid's 15. My daughter, if she was delivering something at 18, three years from now, she wouldn't even go up to that door. She left that on the bottom step. She probably would have got in trouble because she wouldn't walked it up there because that would have freaked her out. So I don't know what's the point about you confused about why a grown dick is jarring to somebody. You know what I mean? Some girls, I mean the girl, like, she probably 20, 21. Everybody ain't at 20, 21. That shit's scary. And on top of it, again, as a woman. Woman I made. I don't know if that's the reason why people talk about. People call people pedophiles or rapists or whatever. But me, my time as a woman, people always trying to take one of my pocketbooks. The one with the money in it or the one with the clitoris in it. Like, that's my experience as a woman, period. That's what it feels like. Always trying to take something from you.

[A]

Okay, that's the end of you. This boy, she can make a point after point after point. God us on the Runway.

[F]

You don't love me. You don't love me. You be irked and I be seeing and I don't care. I'm not going to stop.

[E]

I be like, you hear me?

[A]

I be trying.

[E]

Talked about it.

[F]

I see Mike. I'm trying.

[E]

Look at me.

[F]

I'm used to be by myself. Look at that.

[D]

Look at me.

[F]

You used to this dog, David Ruffin. I am David Ruffin. I'm working on it. I ain't even know what a a mic was. I had to learn that. These ain't ain't teach me that well.

[A]

It's me.

[F]

I'm C mic, right?

[A]

Or D. That's all you got to know. It's the simplest thing up up here. It's me.

[F]

There's no such thing as a B mic, Correct?

[E]

There is.

[A]

No. That's not true.

[F]

So everybody has a, is it A.

[A]

Mic is a B mic.

[E]

It's a C mic. A D mic.

[F]

So how do you know that you need. Like, how do you. How do you figure that out?

[A]

Listen, you bring all for the week. You bring all the dogs to the nearest dog park. You see it, See who survives.

[F]

What letter am I?

[E]

I'm talking M. Can you please don't do that? You trying to open up different.

[F]

I want to know.

[A]

You are.

[E]

You are a, A Mike.

[F]

A. I have a problem being quiet right here.

[A]

You A A minus Mike. Yeah, you A minus Mike.

[F]

No, that's not going to work. Or B, I take a C. That's.

[E]

It was on the Runway.

[F]

What letter Is you?

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't. That's the thing. That's. He might be.

[F]

Flip made a good point. Everybody said, good job, Flip. That's a good one. The whole room's a good bed. Damn it. I like that one. The whole rule set up, boy.

[E]

Now, don't touch me.

[A]

I love you.

[E]

Let me. You want the old Flip to come in?

[A]

Yeah. I can't see the board from these two fools. I mean, if you want to keep.

[C]

On caring, should anybody else see the perfect neighbor?

[D]

I could not watch.

[C]

This is a dark turn. So what is that?

[B]

For those of us who don't know.

[C]

It'S the story of G.K. owens, the woman who was murdered by her neighbor through the door we talked about on this podcast a couple years ago. Because her son left the tablet over there. The neighbor was beefing with all the kids. They live in a neighborhood where there's a bunch of kids playing in the yard. The woman's rent in the apartment. She's calling the cops every two minutes about kids playing in the yard. Eventually, the mom goes over to knock on the door, and the woman shoots her through the door. Rest in peace. Peace to AJ Owens.

[B]

I remember that it wasn't long ago.

[C]

Remember that they made a documentary. It's on Netflix. It's entirely. The story is told entirely through a web webcams from the police officers, body cams from ring cameras. Yeah, it's. It's the saddest in the entire world, obviously. Again, rest in peace.

[A]

It was a tough watch. I didn't finish it.

[D]

Yeah, I couldn't start. We me, I'll try to watch. My wife is like, no, I'm going to cry through this entire thing.

[A]

Cuz as soon as you cut it on, they get right to the nature of what's going on.

[D]

Really?

[A]

Correct. Oh, yeah. And you can tell. And you could tell that the whole town has the word. The whole block has the word on this lady.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The police have the word on this lady. And you could just see what type of time this lady is on. From minute one. From minute one. Yeah.

[C]

For minute one of the. The. The show, Rem and I were both like, this is just gonna piss us off. Why. Why we watch this. But it was. It's really, really, really good the way they executed that with no dialogue, no talking head, no narrator, God voice, just strictly the facts of what happened from webcams in. In body cam footage.

[A]

I hate y' all on the block that. That. That are like that with the kids of the block.

[B]

Word.

[A]

Like, I've had. I have a little bit. Bit of experience with. With that. With people just being dicks. Kids, bro.

[B]

They ain't hurting nothing.

[A]

Right?

[F]

Me too.

[A]

And I get your rights or your rights. Right. But they're kids. They're kids that neighbor beef, like, live on the same block beef where we get to fighting about how high the fence should be, where the fence is located. What's my property? What's your property? Your dog over here.

[B]

That neighbor tree growing on this side.

[F]

Always at the property that.

[A]

Do y' all think that there should be a public registry of nuts neighbors?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Absolutely, yes.

[D]

What's that T app? It should be one for neighbors. Seriously? Yeah.

[C]

That's a great idea.

[D]

Like the neighbor version of the tapp, where you. Cause people need to know. And a lot of time when you move into a neighborhood, you don't know what you're getting. And that's a really tough situation.

[F]

You could have the income, you could have, you know, everything you have to have required for the apartment. But they don't know that you've been through 10 different complexes because you just start problems everywhere you go.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

The crazy. This woman was a tenant. She was renting the. The place. And the landlord himself was like, no, we let the kids play.

[A]

Play?

[F]

Yeah. Like, at one point, somebody in the documentary said something like, well, she was supposed to move in February. I don't know why she moved, because that's. That would have been the best move. She's 50 plus, she's single. I'm sure as loud as she with them playing football in an empty lot next to your house. I'm sure that's super annoying, but in my opinion, after watching, I already knew the story. I watched it close when it happened. I've just grown up in the city. That's what happened. Moms fight each other. The kids beef, and then the moms come outside. Like, that's the thing. You're supposed to fight at the worst, argue police, but they kill somebody. In my opinion, she wanted to kill a kid. She just settled for the mom because the mom knocked on the door, but she wanted to take a kid. I was just glad that she actually went to jail. That's the only part.

[C]

Me too. Yo, I was worried. I was like, like, damn, I hope she better not get away with this. And she got 25 for manslaughter instead of murder.

[F]

Yeah, that never happens to old white people. But I think that's the best part about the documentary, that everything. People hate about documentaries, it didn't have.

[A]

Yeah, it just was.

[F]

What happened? That was lit. That was decent. How they did that.

[C]

It's absolutely incredible. It's worth watching. It is a hard watch, but I think it's important. Trigger warning for sure. No pun intended.

[A]

I'm gonna finish it.

[C]

It's really, really good. Like, again, being able to tell the whole story just from what? Webcam is crazy.

[A]

I got no people that used to live next to people, at least. Oh, about crying. Go ahead.

[C]

Oh, no. She said yeah at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. I made it all the way through. But them kid, them boys.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I know people that used to live next to people that would mow their lawn with a weapon. What do you mean? Just like the person that lives next to you is coming outside mowing the.

[D]

Lawn with the weapon.

[C]

That's crazy.

[F]

That would really upset me.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

And it's off. Yes, and it's off. And how do you deal with that if you're the neighbor, right? Because you don't want to knock on the door over there. Because now it's. You open up the escalation.

[B]

I got. I got a house and the dude that. It's out of state. The dude that cuts the grass, the neighbor whipped out on him. Literally whipped out on him.

[F]

But why?

[B]

Just, you know, older people be stuck in their ways. He like, yo, you. You did something to the gate. Like some stupid shit. For you to pull a gun out on somebody. It ain't egregious. The dude whooped out on him. He called me like, yo, your neighbor just pulled the gun out on me, yo. Wow.

[A]

I'm like, what?

[B]

So, you know, some people be stuck in they ways, and that's one of.

[A]

The worst places to have beef, like, with your neighbor.

[D]

You gotta come home.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Your kids is leaving out of there, going to school, your fucking visitors, family and friends. Like, that's just scary all around the board. I am gonna go go back and finish watching.

[B]

Like, yo, you having a party? You having a cookout? Come park their car right on the street.

[D]

They got.

[B]

You got a driveway?

[A]

My.

[B]

Nope. They park their car on the street. A bunch of.

[D]

We literally moved this when I was a kid because of beef with neighbors.

[A]

We were getting.

[D]

Not me, but my parents were getting fights and brothers getting in fights, like, over dumb. And it got to the point where it was escalating. People start, you know, the guns, all that. And it don't get better. That's the thing. It don't get better. And there's no Time for it to get back.

[B]

Especially if you ain't winning. You got to leave.

[D]

Y' all did the right thing. Y. Get out of there.

[A]

Yo, that's my memory.

[D]

Fresh Prince.

[A]

Yeah. Don't stick around, yo. Get out. You did the right thing.

[D]

Yeah. They got out of here.

[A]

It's not worth it.

[F]

What the.

[A]

Not. It's not worth it.

[F]

You left me the. Yeah, go ahead.

[D]

Another documentary that came out or docu series that came out this week was starting 5 on Netflix. You know, they do it every year with the NBA players. And one of the big pieces of information that came out was the stuff on James Harden. Cause James Harden is notoriously quiet, doesn't share a lot of his personal life. And I think it was episode two. He comes out, his son comes out, and he shows that he has a kid. People didn't even know he had a kid. And James Harden has a kid, and he's not like a newborn. The kids walking and talking. I forget how old he is. He might be, like, five or something. Five or six. Yeah. And he and his current girlfriend are pregnant with a new baby.

[A]

Oh, good for them.

[D]

Yeah. Shout out to them. Congrats. And he talks about what it meant to grow up without a good relationship to his father and how that makes him want to be a very present father. And, you know, this season's interesting. Cause, you know, sga, there's all kinds of cool stuff if you're into basketball and the personalities. But I thought the stuff with James Harden was the best stuff because we don't know much about him and because he gives such insight into being a father. So if y' all didn't check it out, it's worth checking out the season. Worth checking out.

[C]

I do want to mention briefly, too, if you are into horror, not horror, murder docs, like we are murder reenactment shows. But we're disappointed in the Ed Gein story. I didn't even start it because everyone said it was so gruesome and terrible and inaccurate and all this. There is a John Wayne Gacy biopic, whatever series on Peacock. It's called Devil in Disguise. There's two. One's a doc, one's like a reenactment. It's really, really good. It's. It's telling the story of the victims more. So it's telling the story of what happened in the John Wayne Gacy story, but through the lens, really more of, like, the police officers and what they were going through. And it would tell the stories of the. The victims, but stop Short of when they meet John Wayne Gacy, at least most of the time. So there's no gruesome shit. It's not showing. This is how he did it. It's not the scary. He showing the him in the crib doing all the horrible shit that he did. Did is just humanizing the victims in a really interesting way. It's definitely worth checking out.

[F]

That's the clown, right?

[C]

He was a clown. He was a contractor.

[A]

He.

[C]

I think he's the most prolific murderer.

[F]

And don't y' all feel like once you watch like once I watch like three Jones about the same. Like I can't. And it's. I can't consume any more information about this person. But except for the. The last guy that had a show. What's his name before the. Of Ed Gracie, the big one, everybody, like, yeah, that was done really, really, really well. And that's a reenactment. But don't you feel like after you watch one documentary about a killer.

[A]

No, it depends on the story.

[C]

I've seen that many about John Gacy and I've never seen any of these cover in this manner where it's about the victims.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Never in my entire life.

[D]

Most of them romanticize the killer.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

On Hulu again, while we're on the topic on Hulu, they're doing the Murdoch story, the prominent family of lawyers from South Carolina. And I've seen that story 10 gabillion times. But it's such an interesting story.

[B]

I did watch this.

[F]

However.

[A]

However they do it, you're going to watch it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm, you know, I'm not.

[A]

It's a new one. This is a miniseries. They're like reenacting. So it's not about the real. It's inspired by and they telling the story. So episode one is kind of slow because they're giving you the background of the family. But watching it, I just forgot how sick the story was. I forgot the housekeeper died, the son died, Everybody died. Everybody.

[B]

But episode one, you kind of see what's happening here. Like how pops is yo. Trying to get everybody on the same page. I'm already in protect mode and making sure like you could tell this is one of them.

[A]

Yeah, they laid the groundwork. Yeah.

[B]

Yo, yo, listen though they wasn't there. If you say this, y', all somebody going to jail.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

He trying to fight through in the emergency room to talk to everybody and get the story straight. Don't talk to the cops.

[E]

You can see the.

[B]

The COVID ups already.

[A]

Also in our Watchers Bulls segment. I mentioned it. Last part. I'll say it again. The Last Frontier. Really good. It should be only three episodes out now. The Last frontier is on Apple. Apple and Sci Fi. No, no, no.

[B]

Prison Break.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Suspense.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Suspense. It's pretty good. It's good. Check it out if you have some time.

[D]

What else?

[B]

You didn't see the Task finale, right?

[A]

No.

[B]

All right, so we won't.

[A]

Yeah, we'll wait. Yeah, we'll wait.

[D]

No, I, I.

[B]

We actually binged it because all y' all been talking. We haven't started an episode, so we literally watched all the episodes and then caught the finale Sunday when it aired.

[C]

Really good show.

[A]

Yeah, you put that. The video game down. Come get in this room, boy. This room and watch this show with me. I never seen before. Put that. What you. What game you playing?

[B]

Resident Evil.

[A]

Yeah, no.

[B]

Yeah, no, that was after.

[A]

All right, let's see, let's see, let's see. I can't read. I can't see.

[B]

Tyler. Tyler the creator.

[A]

Oh, Tyler. We should have got to a little sooner. But fuck it, here we are. Yeah, Tyler the creator was just as saddened by the passing of d' Angelo as we all were. And he went on his Instagram page to pay homage and give his tribute. And a lot of his white fan base just had not so kind things to say in the comments. So because people were angry at that, they dug up all of Tyler the creator's old tweets. I'm talking about, like, from 09, 2010, 2011. And they're trying to cancel him now. Yeah, I mean, I read some of the tweets. They're not the greatest of tweets. They're horrible, but.

[B]

Horrible. But a lot of them.

[F]

Why?

[A]

Who cares?

[C]

Yeah, who cares? First of all, Tyler was a teenager at that time. I don't know.

[D]

That has to count for something.

[C]

It definitely should. I mean, just the.

[F]

The.

[C]

The nature of Twitter at that time. I don't know. It's.

[D]

It's never gonna.

[C]

We've said these same conversations a million times up here about everybody in the world.

[A]

If you were gonna get him, it's too late is all I'm saying.

[C]

That part's like.

[A]

I'm not saying that y' all don't make valid points, but you're not gonna get him now. He sells out too many shows. He's worth too much. He makes too much. It's over, dog. Save your tears.

[F]

Why was he acting so surprised that them niggas don't know D' Angelo, like, I think you don't know that your fan base. When he did the album, when he did the Mask and all them white kids came with those fucking masks and it freaked them out, probably. I mean, it's like, you know that your fan base isn't. They little white boys, like, they was comfortable wearing blackface to a show. That's the type of you built around yourself. He been a star too long not to notice.

[A]

Yeah, but then he changed at some point.

[F]

He did, but the fan base is the fan. But you know, your fan base. I know the. That with me type of they are.

[A]

Yeah, but that's what to say, you know. Yeah, but that's. But that's not fair. That's not fair. Because while. Yes, you do, you could go do 10 more gigs and pick up fans at each stop along the way, and then you wouldn't know your entire fan base. All we know is that Tyler don't come from the same place we come from. He was doing all of that white, white boy, white people. And at some point, for him, it changed. I'm not talking about the fan base, but for him. So I don't. Like you say he was acting. Surprise. I don't think it's so much surprise. Right. Like, little racist white boys are racist white boys.

[E]

Right.

[A]

But the time timing of it just was really bad. And anytime people go dig up your old tweets, you don't feel like dealing with that. You just don't.

[D]

I mean, some of these are from. I'm not gonna read them out loud, but some of these are from 2011. It's 14 years ago. I mean, Tyler's 34.

[F]

You said where he's from. Where is he from? Like, street Holder by Trouble. Really? From the burbs. He from Cali?

[D]

Not in the same way.

[B]

He's from Cali.

[F]

Oh, he's from California. He's super talented. I found out about him late. I was late. But that's one of the first things I noticed, that his fan base don't look like us. I mean, and that don't even necessarily, necessarily mean anything, but they just seem like the kind of mean. I think he attracted what he was. Even though he grew up. They're white, so they're not gonna grow up and have a different feeling about blacks. He just grew up and knew you shouldn't play like that. He knew it was wrong then. You know what I mean? That's how I looked at it. But, yeah, I looked at it with him, like, growth. Like, he just grew up he a man now.

[A]

I don't want Tyler canceled.

[F]

No. Hell no.

[C]

It ain't gonna happen.

[B]

And unfortunately. Cause I'm with you. You look at it as growth.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

When people got the target on you, you're not allowed to grow.

[F]

True.

[B]

They don't want you to grow. Now it's. Even if you've grown, you could do a complete 180 from everything you used to be. Don't matter if the target is on you. We gonna drag you right back here. And now you are this person.

[D]

I think sometimes.

[B]

Cause you should have never been this person.

[D]

And I agree with that. I do think there's some ownership that has to be taken. Like, I hear you talk about, I used to be a troll. You talk about growing. You talk about, I was here and now I'm here. I just think if you're a public figure, depending on when you do it again. If I'm 14, 15, I'm not holding people accountable for that. Some of the later tweets, Tyler was like 24. That's a little different. You know what I mean? And I think he should just say, I did this. I don't think this. Or I did this. And I do think this. You know, I think some accountability is good. But people have to be able to grow. Like, you can't. We all do dumb shit. We all write dumb shit.

[B]

I don't like when people just try to act like it never happened. The person themselves.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, yes. Anytime I speak with doing this. When I took accountability for things, it wasn't a gotcha moment. It wasn't like, oh, we got them now. Address it.

[D]

Right.

[B]

I did it off personal conversations with people and did it that way myself. So that's why I say mine is much more genuine. But even with that, there's people that don't got accepted and they still gonna hold you to who you used to be. That just comes with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't like when like. Like, I think Tyler should have been said something about some of that. But you choose not to cool your brand. Whatever the case may be. Some people may look at us. If I speak on it, I'm shedding light to it.

[C]

And I delete these old tweets.

[F]

That's the first thing I thought. I don't get why people don't just get rid of that. Like, as soon as I thought I made it, I deleted old tweets. And I wasn't. I had 15,000 followers. I was deleting. Let me get this out of here. I'm serious. Like, it's.

[B]

That's the work real quick. Deletes don't affect screenshots.

[A]

True.

[F]

But, you know, I mean, I got.

[B]

That's deleted.

[A]

And they.

[B]

They got their pictures. They send them every time they feel like it. Yeah, unfortunately, yes.

[A]

Yeah. But everybody don't have the screenshot.

[F]

Yeah. Depending on.

[B]

A lot of his has been screenshotted.

[F]

Let me ask y' all this. If Tyler, the creator, at some point in his career, did some type of comedic movie or something like that, it wouldn't be surprised. Like, comedy has always been a part of his brand. So does that fit in at all that he jokes around a lot? He plays a lot. Like. Because it's one thing where you see an eye in somebody's life and they say nasty things about their race or whatever. Right. It's another thing when you plan, you know, when you doing it in a comedic way. Because some people don't know certain ain't funny. They just. They gonna crack it, you know, Some of his.

[D]

I mean, a lot of it did have a comedic undertone to it.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

It still was offensive.

[F]

That's the first thing that caught my eye about him. His content.

[D]

Stuff like his R Kelly tweet was like, okay, it's too far from me.

[F]

What was Dark Kelly's beat.

[D]

I got the sense we don't want to read them and put more on it, but people can go find it. But I'm just saying, some of it, even if you're joking, is probably a little too far, Especially when you start to be, like, not 19 or 20, but 24, 25, which, again, some of the tweets, he was older. But comedy sometimes is also used as a shield to just be foul. You know what I mean?

[A]

Good point.

[D]

Got it.

[F]

And then Tyler just go viral for his conversation with his friend. His friend telling him he gay last year.

[D]

Oh, you talking about from. With what's my man name?

[F]

And that's probably why I didn't say that. He just gives that. He don't give a. Like, I don't think he cares. I agree with. I think he cares with that. Them. Tyler, go ahead.

[A]

Gerard Carmichael. Then it was the time when he was at the Jaden Smith show and Jaden Smith was at his show playing like that or whatever. Ain't my business. Who. Anybody. So I. I don't care.

[F]

I don't give a.

[A]

Then it's that funk flex freestyle, which to me is one of the greatest freestyles. It is one of the funniest freestyles ever up there. But I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have did it.

[F]

Especially with Flex.

[B]

Responds Flex may not agree.

[A]

Oh, I won't ask him. I won't ask him either. I know absolutely nothing about this heist. I saw it mentioned briefly on the news.

[C]

I got informed by my wife as I was going to bed last night that she said that a bunch of girls robbed the Louvre. I don't know if that's true or not.

[D]

I don't know if they're women or not.

[A]

Oh, she said women didn't.

[C]

That's what she said. But she's getting her information from Tick Tock. It may just all be fan fiction.

[B]

Ocean's Fifteen.

[C]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[D]

I'm just happy it happened. That's all I'm gonna say. Four suspects stole nine pieces of France's crown jewels from the Louvre. Now, as y' all know, the lou, or for those don't know, the Louvre is the most visited museum in the world. And the French government is very upset right now. Cuz they say they, they didn't just rob the museum, they robbed France. And I'm like, france, y' all rob. Y' all get the everything in there.

[B]

Ain'T y took that back. Historically, it's probably been the biggest robbery. What are you talking about?

[A]

Right?

[D]

It's like Omar get killed on the wire, you just got to charge it to the game.

[B]

Yeah, don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. France ain't Omar. Yeah, word. They not.

[D]

No, I'm not saying France. Omar. You know what?

[B]

Omar had a cold, man got to have a cold.

[D]

Omar had a cold. I'm just saying, you live by the gun, you die by the gun. You go around robbing people, you going to get robbed. France has spent the last 400 years robbing everybody, but especially Africa. Africa, the Middle East, Latin America.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No disrespect to Omar. You're right. Omar's a million times better than friends. I, I, I stand on that. You're right.

[A]

And these women are still at large?

[D]

Apparently, yes. The suspects, again, I don't know.

[C]

I don't know for facts that they're women. This is tick tock.

[B]

I mean, I like it better with women.

[C]

I think I do too.

[B]

Yeah, I'm with it.

[C]

Apparently some of the goods got damaged. They dropped a crown running away somewhere.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Falls in.

[F]

That was professionals.

[D]

The investigators say that they're puzzled why the culprits left behind the colossal 140 karat Regent diamond. Which has been valued at 100. I'm sorry. At $60 million. So they took some interesting things. They took necklaces, tiaras and brooches. After smashing the glass.

[B]

Oh, they just setting up a photo shoot. No, dog, you take that big shit, they gonna be on your ass forever.

[E]

I don't cuz how you gonna get it off?

[B]

It might be hard to f. Yeah, we're gonna.

[D]

You fence this. We fence any of this though. Where do you fence Francis Crown?

[B]

J. I'm busted down. You think Br Wave earrings or something?

[A]

Wait till you get a load of me.

[E]

Right? My stadium.

[B]

Yo, you crazy?

[D]

I'm not saying women couldn't have pulled this off on some set it off. But it says the thieves used a muebles which is a truck mounted with a basket lift that's commonly used to hoist furniture into Paris's inaccessible apartment block.

[B]

Oh, I'm thinking some James Bond. These just did some gangster.

[D]

Might have been they did the opposite.

[B]

They did some gangster.

[D]

Yeah, they did the. They did the. That the Lou would never expect that you would just run up there, smash the and grab your bucket truck.

[B]

Oh, that's kind of.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

I don't know. I think it's the inside job. You been to the Lou before?

[D]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He go stun on us again. How was that?

[D]

Have you been. I'm on some new.

[E]

I'm checking my.

[A]

My deuces.

[B]

I don't see how that would be possible.

[C]

There's been mad stolen out the Lou. They stole the bor.

[B]

Lisa at one point on some smash and grab though.

[F]

My like, yo.

[B]

That is.

[D]

They stole them on Lisa about a century ago. Yeah, they could have got it again this time for what I heard is right down the same hallway.

[C]

See they up.

[D]

But again. What are you with the mon.

[A]

Put in my living room.

[D]

That is in the crib.

[A]

Yo, yo, yo.

[B]

Get my Too many snitches in the world. That's crazy. But good. Good luck to those people.

[D]

Shout out to them. Whoever stole from the loose. Shout out to you.

[B]

Yeah, y' all held that down. Salute at all.

[A]

Shout out to the thieves that stole from.

[D]

Yes, the thieves.

[B]

That sometimes you got to steal from the thieves.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Robin Hood.

[A]

I totally understand. I'm picking up what y' all putting down. Okay. There you have it.

[C]

There you have it. Expert analysis here at the jp.

[A]

There you have it. Take that, Angela.

[D]

Joe, random question.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

Are we doing. Are we doing pods giving this year?

[A]

Maybe not.

[D]

Maybe not. Okay.

[A]

I'm not sure.

[F]

What Spots Giving.

[D]

It's a. For me. It's like a unicorn. It's imaginary thing where we have food and enjoy up here. And he invites all of us and we do it together. Oh.

[A]

Cause you've never had one.

[D]

No.

[F]

Yeah, he did last year.

[B]

Last year.

[F]

Let's do it.

[D]

Because I was gonna do friends giving in my house, but if y' all do pause, I'm not doing. You know what I mean? I was like, I was trying to decide.

[A]

Wait, Pause Giving is not friendsgiving. They're two different things.

[D]

I know, but I mean, so you.

[A]

Should still do a friends giving.

[C]

You can do mad givings.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That will come to yours.

[A]

And I will come. I've never been in your own. Yeah.

[D]

Okay, then we'll do it. Let's do it. I, I, I'll do pod. You know, we could do our spades then, too. That's the date.

[A]

Maybe. My dad might be busy with his other kids, but we'll see.

[D]

We'll see. All right, fair enough.

[A]

I'm not. I'm not totally off po giving, though. Pause giving. Might. Might happen here.

[C]

Strike by the right chef.

[A]

Well, my. My beautiful lady.

[D]

Or.

[A]

Well, Shade and Shade and Kino had a bright idea. Oh, what was it saying? That maybe they would.

[C]

Oh, potluck, maybe.

[D]

No, no. That they would do.

[B]

They would do.

[C]

Oh, they do entirely.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That they would cook and don't them handle it.

[D]

Yeah, handling that.

[A]

No. And we was going to get. I mean, I wasn't going to ask you all for.

[C]

I'm joking. I would have brought something.

[A]

Something from my mom and something from over here and do like Pa Given by coming.

[B]

I'll stop by Boston Market. I got you.

[D]

It's closed.

[F]

Market.

[A]

Unfortunately, Boston Market is not closed on Thanksgiving.

[D]

It is not?

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

No.

[A]

I done spent a few Thanksgivings.

[B]

Actually, Market, I'm not.

[A]

No.

[F]

Boston Market is closed in general. I thought, like, done as a business.

[E]

It's not closed down.

[F]

Oh, I don't really. Okay.

[A]

Philly, you gotta move. You gotta move.

[F]

I love Boston Market sneaker stores. Philly, Delaware area. The Boston markets are closed. Please get off my back about it. I'm going through enough. I love Boston Market, bro.

[A]

Girl, you better open up Zillow. Girl. I'm honestly. It's time.

[F]

Listen.

[E]

Hey.

[F]

What?

[B]

Bring that to your. How do we save this business segment? Cuz they close.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. I'm applying Boston marketing.

[B]

They close down the wall in my hood.

[D]

They, they.

[B]

They're close everywhere.

[F]

Even when I travel. I don't see them anymore, I would get it.

[D]

They got a lot fewer.

[B]

They have 27 locations remaining across the entire U.S. wait, what? That was as of early 2024. Later in 2024, it was reported that only around 616 locations remain endangered species, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[F]

So where I live at, very few.

[A]

Yeah, you still live in the hood.

[F]

I'm telling you, Boston markets are done, bro. They don't take all of the restaurants out of a state, and it. You know what I mean? And it's small. Like, they're gonna leave one or two. And it's like, I don't remember people not eating it no more. People always, you know, you get a little taste for it, you eat it.

[A]

Well, I didn't plan on doing our fix a business segment. However, if I was in charge of Boston Market, I'm taking Boston. Boston off of it immediately. There's so many people in America that, hey, Boston.

[F]

Yeah, Family market.

[B]

It's four in New Jersey.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Family market or something based around family market. But Boston Market, I'm changing that immediately.

[B]

You need a rebrand.

[F]

Get some tick tock stars and some elote. Let's get this.

[A]

I'm gonna get the black gorilla to come in there and. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Get my man to come in there, do all his gorilla sho.

[D]

That's racist.

[A]

But he really be doing that.

[F]

That's what he is.

[E]

We got to get up, make the noise, though.

[F]

We got to get Keith.

[B]

We got to get Keith Lee, man.

[F]

Keith Lee and Ronnie in the damn.

[A]

Does Keith Lee still eat food and. And test it out? I ain't seen Keith le in a minute.

[D]

Now that you mentioned it.

[F]

I just watched him get a bear from the size of this, so he don't have time for that. He's balling.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. I don't know if he's still doing.

[F]

Love you, Keith.

[D]

Oh, maybe they need to add some other food, because you remember. I remember when it was Boston chicken, and then they changed the Boston market to sound more expensive, but it was still kind of just chicken.

[F]

Like it used to be called Boston Chicken.

[B]

No, that's Chicken Shack over there down, y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

Boston chicken. No, you're too young to remember. You were incarcerated. When it happened, it was. Oh, when you came home, it was Boston Market, bro. I'm telling you, look it up. It was called Boston Chicken also.

[A]

I mean, if I was in charge right after I changed take the Boston off the title, I'm seasoning the chicken a certain way.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I'm seasoning that chicken Joe cooking. They think that you just take that chicken, put it on the rotisserie, take it out, and now white people just about to flock. Nah, it was known as Boston chicken.

[B]

85 to 95 to 95.

[D]

Yeah. Which is what I used to go to it.

[F]

Damn, that's crazy.

[B]

I was. They expanded the menu to include meatloaf, turkey, ham and other comfort foods. And then it was Boston market.

[C]

And then McDonald's bought them.

[F]

And I think they need a new cornbread recipe. I think the cornbread was ass. I think they bumped up the cornbread. Bring Tik Tock Stars in, add some Kinky Taco night. Whatever. Popular Berea Taco Night. Kinky Taco Night and Bea on Wednesdays. Tik Tok Stars. They can get that back job. It's too many people that. Because where else do you get that experience where you getting like a home cooked meal on a fast food vibe?

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

You spend 10, 15 bucks and you get a kinky top.

[A]

And now that, now that park said McDonald's bought them, they sold them.

[C]

They sold them.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

In 2000. Sold them in 07.

[A]

McDonald's.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Left them.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

It's over.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[D]

Some just need to die. Like Ian and I were at Livingston Mall in New Jersey this weekend. And again it was like two stores open. It was a, it was a Popeyes in there. Food court, but just one store. This is a mall that used to have 50, 60 Popeyes or Roy Rogers Popeyes.

[B]

Roger's going out there already.

[A]

You guys. We're not about to talk about Roy Rogers.

[D]

No, no, I'm not. What I'm talking about is, I'm saying everybody was talking about how do we revive this mall. I'm like, just let them all die. You know what I mean? Maybe some businesses, instead of fixing them, we just need to let them all.

[B]

I saw, I saw somebody, but now they were saying how to save malls. And they had a very good point. They were saying convert them into like all in one senior locations. You do senior housing.

[C]

That's what they try to do with the one in my hometown. But the mall up the economy in my hometown because it took all the businesses, the business away from the downtown and put it in a small area that all that tax money went to them now instead of the city that was actually the city in the area.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyway.

[D]

Yeah, malls are absolutely bad and you just gotta let them, you just gotta let them die.

[B]

These restaurants, it's more than just retail now, cuz you can't say malls are obsolete. And then go over here at American Dream.

[D]

I think like you need.

[B]

It's, it's now it's expanded past just stores. You have to have an experience rides and you need ride. You go to American Dream. You can go skiing, you can go to the theme park, the water park.

[D]

Right.

[B]

And do your shopping.

[A]

And they still not going to pay the surrounding towns that money they own.

[B]

They're not 100% open yet though.

[A]

Country too.

[D]

Those are the highest, highest of high end malls.

[B]

And American Dream got a short lived life.

[F]

Yes, they do.

[B]

I don't know what the y' all think. That ain't gonna last, right?

[E]

No, I don't think so.

[F]

I think that it's gonna last as long as it would anywhere else. I think that you're right. It's not gonna last for so long. All that shit phases out. But I think the area is in. Is the best area it could have been in because it gives us the east coast feeling of Disney. We don't have that. That's the closest you're gonna get to it. I'm somebody that took my kid to every kind of nice. You know, I tried to take them to all the cool places and that was like the Max. That's the top. That's our Disney.

[B]

Not just that their proximity to New York makes them a tourist hub. So now people does not who don't never experience a roller coaster and in the mall as I'm in New York. Okay, cool. Let's hit the dream. I know people that's coming up here from down south. And it was like, yo, when I get up there, yo, can you run me past that American Dream Mall? I heard I need to see that.

[F]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's directly across from MetLife and FanDuel.

[F]

Because we literally only have two malls like that. Correct. There's only two and whole country.

[B]

Minneapolis and America. And they're building one in Miami. Same, same company.

[F]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, cool.

[D]

We got some sadness.

[A]

Shout out to Boston Market.

[F]

Keep your head up.

[C]

Long story short.

[B]

Boston Chicken.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Boston Chicken. Take it back to the old family market.

[B]

I want you to take that name off though.

[F]

Take Boston off. Family market.

[D]

We got some sad news.

[A]

Yeah, let me queue up. Outstanding. We want to say rest and peace to Doug Martin who play for. Who did that one play?

[B]

Tampa mainly.

[A]

He played for somebody else.

[C]

He played. He did, but I can't remember.

[B]

That was the main Tampa primarily.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Honey Badger.

[A]

Doug Martin who. Who they're saying died in police custody.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The details Aren't out yet.

[A]

Well, there's, there's a story out, it's just not many details in it. Yeah, but apparently there was a break in at 3 3:15am cops responded. That's where funny language comes in. And then Doug Martin is dead and they transfer him to the nearest hospital and where he's pronounced dead. Yeah.

[B]

Let me ask you. So at the break in it was.

[A]

His house or somebody else's house, I do not know. All it said was deal with the. The cops responded to a break in. The way the story read, it could have been like Doug Martin was breaking in, but I don't know. So I don't even want to put that in the universe. And let's say rest in peace to Anthony Jackson. Anthony Claiborne Jackson, an American basis who many described as one of the masters of the instrument that doesn't tell a story enough. I'm taking this from a gentleman named Nathan east who says forever one of the giants. His tone, touch and spirit reshape the language of the base. Every note a masterclass in depth, soul and truth. Half a century ago, a young, young Anthony Jackson, barely in his early 20s, was called to play on a session for the OJS on a song called for the Love of Money. The bass chart simply said D minor. What he created on the spot became one of the most iconic bass lines ever. The one that made every basis sit up and realize a new standard had been set. Anthony's version of D minor redefined the instrument and raised the bar so high we've been reaching for it ever since. Take a listen to Chaka Khan's album Naughty in 1980. 80. But check his playing out on literally everything he recorded. All masterpieces. One of my earliest inspirations, AJ became a dear friend. And I'll miss our two hour phone catch ups over the years. Shout out to Nathan east and again, rest in peace to Anthony Jackson and Doug Martin. Thoughts, prayers and condolences to his family, their family, friends and fans.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Very special, sir. Good one. And I will queue up. Outstanding. How do you spell that again? There you go. Gotcha.

[F]

There we go.

[A]

Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. We ain't turn the bass up in this piece.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's, that's me. You can't tell me nothing about that's, that's me. It's, it's the Gap Band. I love you.

[F]

By.

[B]

Real quick I was, while you were talking, I was looking up to see if there's more information on this Doug Martin passing. It says Here. He died while in police custody. The Oakland Police Department states they responded to a home break in in Oakland, California, where officers attempted to detain him and a brief struggle occurred. He became unresponsive and was transported to a hospital where he later died. His family publicly acknowledged the death and requested privacy, noting that the cause of death is currently unconfirmed. Martin had been battling mental health issues, according to a statement from his former agent and family, and he reportedly fled his home in a disoriented state before entering a neighbor's residence, prompting the police response and the officers involved in the incident have been placed on administrative leave and multiple investigations have been launched, including by Oakland Police Commission and Alameda County District Attorney's Office.

[A]

Yikes. Yeah. Damn. Sounds like a big mess.

[F]

We just talked about that five seconds ago.

[A]

Y I'm going to wait for more details to be released for sure on this again, rest in peace. To Doug Martin. That's horrible.

[B]

Awful.

[A]

Yeah, it is. That's horrible. All right. I don't have anything else that needs our attention. I'm straight. I think we've done an amazing job.

[B]

We did it.

[A]

What say you guys?

[E]

Great.

[B]

We did it, man.

[C]

We did it.

[F]

I have a lot more to say, but I'll wrap it up here.

[A]

Got another. What you got to say, B?

[F]

I'm being silenced up here. You're silent to me.

[A]

Say that after a 9 million word shut up. It ain't nothing better than a 10. That's a sled type of girl that already be wet before you touch.

[B]

I love me a sled. They got a taste for that waist convers middle.

[A]

Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this podcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows each and every one of us need to be there. Hey, till next time we bid you a due farewell. Adios are riva dirty. Hasta la vista arvoir. So long goodbye. Well simple head not to suffice.

[C]

You heard.

[A]

Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant. Women want to travel in a closed minded women want you to to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol. You might need it. What y' all doing this week? What y' all doing this week?

[E]

Working, baby.

[A]

Working. Never not working. That's right.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[A]

How about the rest of you? What say y'? All? Working.

[D]

That's it.

[A]

Okay. Working.

[C]

Cleaning up my house.

[A]

Mark, same word.

[D]

Never mind.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Forget that grinding, man.

[A]

I got it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I'm in Detroit.

[B]

What you doing?

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

There we go.

[A]

What I'm doing can't even be spoken about, man. If you see me, just a simple head. Nah, you know what time it is. Hey, what I'm doing can't be spoken about on the airways. I mean, if you know, you know, you heard.

[D]

I mean, Netflix.

[A]

I mean, chasing that money. I looked at your phone.

[D]

Boom.

[A]

We'll fold that up right now.

[B]

Don't look away now.