Episode 873 | "Crack Ain't Spicy"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 873 | "Crack Ain't Spicy"

Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Joe Budden
Panel: Big Parks, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, Corey, and others

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Episode Overview

Episode 873 is packed with the crew’s signature blend of banter, deep dives on hip-hop culture, social commentary, music reviews, and all-out randomness. Topics fly from self-care habits and generational habits, to hip-hop Versus recaps, sports, engagement traditions, and even the economics of modern strip clubs and sex work. Highlights include a detailed, passionate breakdown of the Cash Money vs No Limit Versus, honest (and at times, hilarious) conversations about love, marriage, and gender roles, and multiple standout moments in music and sports. The tone swings wildly from playful and chaotic to reflective and insightful, locking in the long-time fans and newcomers alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Self-Care, Showers, & Lotion Culture Wars

[00:31–07:00]

• The episode opens with a playful debate about shower routines—specifically, if men lather their legs and the cultural (often racial) implications.
• Big Parks claims he doesn’t use lotion—Joe clowns him, suggesting it’s because "he started messing with white girls."
• Dr. Mark Lamont Hill chimes in, clarifying "lathering" is with soap, not lotion; Joe learns he’s been using the word wrong.
• Extended riffs on the kinds of products Joe uses, with jokes about “French lotion” vs. classic Vaseline.
• The crew pokes fun at Parks for only using lotion since podcasting.

“That’s one of the problems, f*cking with them white girls. No, you be in the house just feeling like you could do without lotion.” — Joe Budden [04:12]

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2. Campus Etiquette, Homecomings, & Generational Stories

[05:00–10:00]

• Dr. Mark Lamont Hill recounts his recent trip to Virginia State University; the guys joke about being the "old heads" at homecoming.
• Joe and Parks reminisce about college days, revealing a desire to "go back" to school now that they're older and successful.
• Light jabs about honorary rap “doctorates” and Angela Rye coming for Joe.

“Everything that I left school and told them motherf*ckers I was going to do, and they all laughed at me— I did it.” — Joe Budden [09:12]

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3. Engagement Traditions & Relationship Chatter

[28:55–37:00]

• A recurring theme: The gender imbalance in engagement customs. Why only women get engagement rings? Should men have a symbol—like a watch or ring—to show they’re “off the market”?
• The group debates engagement watches versus rings, ultimately cracking up at the notion that men deserve some kind of visible, official sign, too.
• Discussions about upgrading rings, wedding band shopping, and who really makes those choices in modern relationships.

"I'm changing that—I need a ring too!" — Joe Budden [32:11]

"Rings is dope... I think it should be a ring." — Big Parks [31:48]

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4. The Versus Breakdown: Cash Money vs No Limit

[44:23–73:33]

• Major centerpiece of the episode: An electric, detailed review of the Versus battle between Cash Money and No Limit at ComplexCon in Vegas.
• Conflicting views about whether the Vegas crowd was the right fit—Joe thought the audience energy was lacking, others (esp. Parks) felt it was impressive.
• Historic Moment: Master P and Birdman dapping each other up onstage. The hosts argue just how significant this peace is in Southern hip-hop history.
• The team highlights standout performers, especially Juvenile, Mia X, and Snoop’s cameo. They also lament Lil Wayne’s notable absence and how it impacted Cash Money’s standing.
• Discussions: Song choices, battle strategies, the impact of limiting the set to 12 songs, the changing legacy of both labels, and their influence on today’s music.

“Cash Money’s done a great job with everything, and we have a very good understanding of everyone in Cash Money and not so much in No Limit.” — Joe Budden [67:28]

"You can't do I Need a Hot Girl without the Wayne and Turk verse—that’s the verse of the song." — Big Parks [60:33]

“If you missed ‘Bout It, Bout It’ in real life in 1997, it’s everything they say it was.” — Joe Budden [73:33]

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5. Powerball Tickets, Rich People Ethics, & Friendship

[36:33–44:23]

• Joe jokes about who should be allowed to participate in company Powerball ticket pools ("Joe, you already hit the Powerball…that’s what I’m saying!").
• Mark takes an unexpectedly serious stance, saying wealthy people shouldn’t buy lottery tickets, much to Joe’s mock outrage.
• The segment highlights the recurring theme of "friendship vs. money" on the show.

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6. Sports: Otani the Cheat Code, Yankees, & Black QBs

[87:53–98:55]

• The panel discusses Shohei Ohtani’s astonishing multi-sport dominance (“cheat code”), then touch on Yankees pride, marathon baseball games, and the Blue Jays’ playoff resurgence.
• A provocative segment on racial biases in quarterbacking: Mark confesses to his own “work in progress” unlearning regarding trust in black quarterbacks vs. white, sparking both laughter and serious debate about societal conditioning.

"Modern-day slavery. I don't actually think white men are better at leading. But that's the logic I have to unlearn." — Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [97:16]

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7. Social & Economic Commentary

[147:29–155:01]

• The crew reviews Cardi B’s statement about the collapsing “price of box” (sex work) in today’s economy, connecting it to handbag resale and high fashion as status markers.
• They riff about Chanel bag prices, dating during inflation, and how social status comes with shifting financial burdens in modern relationships.

"I totally agree with her—I’ve always said you can tell which way the world is going by what the underworld is doing." — Joe Budden [149:12]

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8. News: ICE Raids, Brooklyn Home Losses, and Politics

[133:30–146:15]

• ICE Agents at Dallas Strip Clubs: The squad reacts to news of ICE raids causing panic at clubs, discussion shifts to immigration, club closures, and how strip club culture intersects with politics.
• Government Seizure of Homes: Dr. Hill spotlights a Brooklyn man losing his home over a water bill. Ish jokes about white men buying tax liens, the group reflects on systemic scams targeting Black homeowners.
• Kamala Harris & Presidential Prospects: Extended debate on issues of charisma, gender, and electability in politics; Mark plugs his Patreon explainer on why Kamala may not be the right candidate.

“Charisma plays a part... Trump reaches people, Obama was charismatic—Hillary, not so much. That’s a big part of winning.” — Big Parks [143:16]

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9. Music Talk: New Releases, “Sleeper” Picks & More

[109:10–204:30]

• New Music Corner: Joe and Parks highlight new Lil Baby x G-Herbo, discuss Wale’s latest, and give major props to a new Dave album ("My 27th Birthday" is played in part and praised for lyricism and storytelling).
• Sleeper Picks Return: The group brings back their beloved sleeper segment, featuring music from Sasha Keeble, Wale, Dave, Black Thought & Danger Mouse, and Pete Bailey. Emotional and musical highpoint.
• Riffing on Accents and AI Album Art: The squad jokes about British rap—lyrics vs. accents in rap music.

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10. Gender Roles, Modern Love, & Summer Walker

[157:09–161:59]

• In light of viral Summer Walker comments (“men are supposed to provide—when you go broke, I will leave”), the cast debates expectations in modern relationships, transactional dating, and female empowerment.
• Joe and Parks recall the podcast’s influence on their relationships—and whether “subtle hints” actually work on men.

“Ladies, if you try to ride or die, you will, in fact, die!” — Joe Budden [158:22]

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11. Listener Letters & Meta Discourse

[171:08–185:04]

• Joe reads and reacts to several long fan emails—one critiques Stephen A. Smith’s coverage of Bronny James, sparking a detailed discussion about ethics of sports criticism, nepotism, and legacy.
• Another letter inquires about what narratives the co-hosts would “want” about themselves, prompting amusing meta-commentary on the chaos and organic storytelling style of the pod.

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12. End-of-Episode Vibes: Community, Plugs, and “Sleepers”

[209:01–end]

• Closing shout-outs, upcoming appearances, and event plugs (Mark to Mississippi, others teasing travel or home viewing).
• The signature “life is a series of moments” outro, musical coda, and camaraderie to wrap.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Lotion, Regimen & Dating Outside the Culture:
  “We gotta be careful with certain shit with mixing cultures.” – Joe Budden [04:34]

• On Versus Crowd: “I'm booing the crowd…no matter what you thought of that crowd, once that battle started, you felt like New Orleans deserved this.” — Joe Budden [48:03]

• On Summer Walker’s Viral Comments:
  “Ladies, if you try to ride or die, you will in fact, die.” — Joe Budden [158:22]

• On Black QBs and Conditioning:
  “It's that little bit of white supremacy we hold on to... with the quarterback, that's some shit I had to work through.” — Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [98:01]

• On Cardi & Sex Work Economy:
  “I can always tell which way the world is going by what the underworld is doing.” — Joe Budden [149:12]

• On Podcast Chemistry:
  “Working with your friends. Like, what more you want to ask God for?” — Joe Budden [09:25]

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Useful Timestamps

• Lotion/Grooming Culture: 00:31–07:00
• Engagement Ring for Men: 28:55–37:00
• Versus Recap: 44:23–73:33
• Sports/Ohtani/Yankees: 87:53–98:55
• Strip Clubs & ICE: 133:30–137:16
• Brooklyn Home Losses: 137:39–139:14
• Kamala Harris/Politics: 139:37–142:44
• Cardi B & Sex Work Economy: 147:29–155:01
• Sleeper Songs Segment: 186:20–204:30
• Fan Letters (Stephen A/Bronny): 171:08–183:09

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Episode Tone & Flow

Across three hours, the crew keeps laughter and wild honesty at the forefront; they’re unfiltered, generous with each other, and wide-ranging in subject matter. Joe acts as the neuroscientist of conversation—prodding, trolling, or pausing for teachable moments whenever the energy spikes. This episode, especially, showcases their ability to bounce between silly and serious while keeping music and culture front-and-center.

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If you missed the episode, don’t sweat—a perfect blend of “bullshit nonsense” and real-life wisdom, this week offered hip-hop history, social critique, relationship therapy, new music picks, and another classic showing from the Joe Budden squad.

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Big Parks]

You telling him where to use his backup lotion?

[Joe Budden]

Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Yo, welcome. I'm all with the self deprecation, so that ain't even that. This is where we started.

[Big Parks]

That's not that.

[Joe Budden]

I shower and I don't lather my legs. Really?

[Big Parks]

Oh, so you white.

[Joe Budden]

I just feel like I got pants on. I' ma the same laughing or not down there.

[Big Parks]

I don't lather my legs.

[Joe Budden]

No, I don't. Not always, anyway. But if my baby is dead and she'll come over and I put my leg and she do all that.

[Corey]

So wait, so you're like, what, you shower white?

[Big Parks]

That's what I just said.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no. We talking about outside of the shower, putting lotion on abdomen.

[Big Parks]

Lather means lathering.

[Joe Budden]

That is lathering.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought you lathered with soap.

[Joe Budden]

Lather with soap. Joe, are y' all saying that you cannot lather with lotion?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You might be playing.

[Corey]

That's not typically how it does.

[Joe Budden]

In black people lingo.

[Big Parks]

Lathering is done with soap.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, look it up. We gotta just see what's going on, y'. All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's with soap.

[Big Parks]

A frothy white mass of bubbles produced by soap or a similar cleansing substance when mixed with water. You cannot lather with lotion. Yo, what you saying I'm wrong?

[Joe Budden]

I'm wrong.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Unless you got.

[Big Parks]

Yo, hold. You 45 might be doing you all right, bro. This like your eighth I'm wrong in, like, a week or two.

[Joe Budden]

Well, y' all are more schooled than I am.

[Big Parks]

That's never stopped you, bro. Yeah, word.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't matter. That didn't matter before, which is why.

[Big Parks]

I now you just willing to be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, okay.

[Big Parks]

Somebody else might be right. Before, it wasn't that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, this is my good, too. This was down here.

[Big Parks]

Yo, dog, I see this.

[Joe Budden]

Throw the bullshit, yo.

[Big Parks]

No, nigga, don't throw me the bullshit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's a good one. Fast fm.

[Joe Budden]

No, this shit a hype audience that's listening and watching my. I don't have lotion on my ankles. I went to get my lotion out of my bag, but it ain't in there because my Girl been digging in there. Oh. Cause it's over there. So ish is amazed that I'm using my lotion to put lotion on my body.

[Big Parks]

That's not what happened. What happened was this nigga got this fancy French shit. Hold up, Ice. Y' all know I don't fuck with lotion. This right here is smooth as silk, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Really, yo.

[Big Parks]

No smell, no nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Ish. I have really good products.

[Big Parks]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, and you know, you know me for pass it over here for years.

[Big Parks]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

This is new, Joe.

[Big Parks]

You didn't have French lotion. You have Vaseline Intensive Care.

[Joe Budden]

I never in my life had Vaseline Intensive Care. I never in my life did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You better watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

You know me a while. I never had.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

With the brown top.

[Big Parks]

Crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He had the medicated Vaseline.

[Big Parks]

Boy, you a have no 30 lotion back then.

[Joe Budden]

My poor as could be. I was in the body shop as broke as I've ever been. I was in the body shop. My.

[Big Parks]

That is made in France, bro. Anyway, so this is what happened.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Big Parks]

I ain't have the other two lotions that he got. He only had the French one. So he about to put the shit on his ankles. I'm like, yo, my nigga, let me get the French shit from my hands. You can use the medium shit for your ankles. Nobody gonna see your ankle.

[Joe Budden]

Telling him what to do with his.

[Big Parks]

Lotion with his own shit, yo. Nah, this shit all right.

[Joe Budden]

Him who just started wearing lotion. You don't even wear lotion.

[Big Parks]

Don't wear lotion.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. It wasn't until he started potting.

[Big Parks]

I don't wear lotion now.

[Joe Budden]

He started podding and was like, you know what? That is not bad, that lotion stuff.

[Big Parks]

No, I might have been onto something. No, I don't.

[Joe Budden]

That's one of the problems, fucking with them white girls. No, you be in the house just feeling like you. You could do.

[Big Parks]

My girl wears lotion.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know. You need lotion.

[Big Parks]

My girl wears lotion.

[Joe Budden]

He ain't here trying to be the. No, nigga. You have a different regimen than she does naturally.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got ass different.

[Big Parks]

My girl wears lotion.

[Joe Budden]

I don't care. Y' all can't be in there doing the same shit.

[Big Parks]

Yo, you stole.

[Joe Budden]

We gotta be careful with certain shit with mixing cultures. This nigga's a fucking idiot, man. For real. I know Barkston peaked in there and stole some shit from her.

[Corey]

For sure.

[Joe Budden]

You crazy rim in there with that fire. He tall and just white.

[Corey]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Just mad Fucking pale. He stole some good. I don't know what you be doing. So me? You ain't quite got a regimen yet. Did Ace call you?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know who that is. I don't know. Who's Ace?

[Joe Budden]

You don't know Ace?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah. Who's that?

[Joe Budden]

The nigga that chased you all around the campus. What campus? The campus you was just at.

[Big Parks]

The long haymaker, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, the nigga, he put his arm around you, took a walk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you. What campus you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

Then he gave you his phone, said put your number in there. You obliged. I didn't know if you was coming to work.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

Did y' all see that?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't see it.

[Big Parks]

What happened? Flip, you good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

His nigga's a liar.

[Big Parks]

I swear. I swear.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Find the part show. Is that why you kept calling me?

[Big Parks]

That's not why we here.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you need a backup?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I called you one time.

[Joe Budden]

When I tell you. Ace walked him all.

[Big Parks]

Jill Scott, long walk.

[Joe Budden]

Damn. All around the campus. Oh, man. And Flip wanted him to get away, but Ace looked like he was on that type of time, and so.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you talking about.

[Joe Budden]

The guy with Flip is out of town glasses. So AC. Yo, give me your number.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't give him my number. Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

You gave me your phone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He gave me.

[Joe Budden]

When you took the phone, I put.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My Instagram in there.

[Joe Budden]

No, you put your number in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Show me right now.

[Joe Budden]

And then said, yo, don't forget to hit me. Oh, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah.

[Big Parks]

Where you was at?

[Joe Budden]

And then say, yo, I've been in that spot before. When the gang.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, y', all, when the gang come.

[Joe Budden]

In the strip club, I get my phone number up, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

First of all, I'm not gonna lie, you to on the beautiful and wonderful people at vsu.

[Joe Budden]

They showed him out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to vsu.

[Joe Budden]

You know his name?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Virginia State University. That's my first HBCU that I went to the homecoming. It was amazing. They showed me a lot of love. And I want to salute everybody there. I don't know what this old who's catching flashbacks. He w. Shout a out cuz of some past he shout out album.

[Joe Budden]

I'm trying to tell you something.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, I would. I would talk over.

[Joe Budden]

Me too. This. I got. I got 40 of these shits. I bought the travel pack, so it's like they all different flavors of this. Shout out to VS. Gorgia. The fuck out of here. Corey, what the fuck you been here doing? I catch up with you.

[Big Parks]

They got some sense. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All Right. Two girls. Best show in the world right here. Where else will you get this type of bullshit nonsense, this type of breakdown on lotion in your body parts after the shower.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Or be impressed, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Or be impressed when you go out of town and try to shoot content but ain't check in with the thugs of the campus.

[Big Parks]

Gotta check in. Y. That's where you normally jumped on you.

[Joe Budden]

It's protocol.

[Big Parks]

Protocol.

[Joe Budden]

Street niggas think they only gotta check in in the streets, and it's false. Go on some of them campuses with your little skit mess. Ace ain't having that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know who that is.

[Joe Budden]

I know you.

[Big Parks]

You know, back in the 90s in Virginia state, in the early 2000s, nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That shit was like outside. That shit was beautiful over there.

[Big Parks]

Niggas was kicking niggas doors in.

[Joe Budden]

Doors in. When you talking. You talking about in the 90s? I was kicking doors in by then. I don't know what you talking about. I'm gonna go back to college, though. Well, good. I'm gonna finish some other schools first, and then I'm gonna go back to college.

[Corey]

Good. What other schools you finishing first?

[Joe Budden]

Don't worry about it, nigga. Stay on my business. You asking too much about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So you're enrolled somewhere right now? You're enrolled in the program?

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm not enrolled anywhere in no program. I don't have the fake rapper doctorates that they giving.

[Big Parks]

No, you should, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate that.

[Joe Budden]

I want to go back to school. Hey, yo, I ain't doing shit else. When I get married.

[Big Parks]

When we first came, I'm the fuck.

[Joe Budden]

Out of that house.

[Big Parks]

When we first came on the show. Oh, you actually going to the school.

[Joe Budden]

In the back of the room, String A Bell style, like, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, yo, all right, I got a plan. I got a plan.

[Joe Budden]

When I get married and she come up there here with these kids, be right at Georgia Tech.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Not even ruckus, huh?

[Joe Budden]

I gotta go away to school. She thinks just her kids is going to school, son. No, your kids is just going away on scholarship. I am rich. I'm paying. I'm paying. I'm going to school.

[Corey]

You probably get a scholarship.

[Joe Budden]

Angela Rye talking shit about me all day. I'm going get my. I'm going back.

[Big Parks]

I.

[Joe Budden]

You know what? I ain't doing shit else. No, that's funny, sir. Everything that I left school and told them motherfuckers I was going to do, and they all laughed at me.

[Big Parks]

I did it.

[Joe Budden]

I did it.

[Big Parks]

Now I'mma come back and rub it in your face. Hey, Mr. Professor, how much you make? Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm just saying I hate school so much. But now you ain't doing else. You ain't doing nothing else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You did it.

[Corey]

That's funny.

[Big Parks]

It's dope.

[Joe Budden]

You working with your friends. Like, what more you want to ask God for? Yeah, you rapped, you toured, you done been places. You're talking. You're dumb still. I mean. I mean, yo, you did all this dumb sitting on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop playing with me. I changed my life like that basketball game did.

[Joe Budden]

I did all of this with just not knowing how to spell karaoke. That's a tricky one.

[Corey]

That's tricky.

[Joe Budden]

Karaoke. Sioux Falls. Sioux Falls. I forgot.

[Big Parks]

Seawol or some. Oh, man, that's funny. I did it, though. I'm going back. That's all that matters.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You should go back.

[Big Parks]

That's all that matters.

[Joe Budden]

Buy a house for her to be lonely in.

[Corey]

Yeah, you can make a library.

[Big Parks]

And then it's gonna be, we going back.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's true.

[Big Parks]

We enrolling.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we. Oh, yeah. My girl ain't letting me go to college. You crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't getting that off.

[Big Parks]

You're not getting that off. Y' all go to all boys school.

[Joe Budden]

Depending on that More house we dorming.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She be right in.

[Joe Budden]

Spelman, go ahead and get the bunk bed twin size. We were supposed to go see a house tomorrow till I saw the virtual tour. That virtual tour? Some up on it. That camera dude made a left. It's like, what the hell is this? Once they get outside of the beautiful realtor pictures that they show you, and you, like, start looking at the crib.

[Corey]

Make a little alteration.

[Joe Budden]

Look at this laundry room.

[Corey]

They should get that straight for you for next rate.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Your word.

[Big Parks]

Your man right here.

[Corey]

It might take a little while.

[Big Parks]

Look at the laundry room. Pr gonna take a minute. Yeah, he'll get it done.

[Joe Budden]

That's what bothers me about my friendship with Ish. Like, I can't hire him. Like, I got some that need fixing. But then why can't you hire. Ain't gonna respect me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He gonna argue back on what you.

[Joe Budden]

Need to respect me at the. At this gig. He ain't gonna respect me. We at the house.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I bought.

[Joe Budden]

I bought some land. Yo, yo, this is how big I want my bed. I'm not arguing with him about how big I want some in my house. You don't. You know, you don't need a kitchen that big. Shut up. Malcolm X. Build my kitchen and shut up. I don't want to Hear? No lip can't do that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish. Yeah, I don't want to hear it like this. You don't need this.

[Big Parks]

Go with the lg.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Switch inside of this. If he hired you to build a kitchen, what would you do? Would you just build a kitchen and.

[Joe Budden]

Then you got to hire more staff for the house I'm trying to buy. Hey, mark them for.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Them for Mexicanos.

[Joe Budden]

Look.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The Ecuadorian now Ecuadorian kitchen, much bigger.

[Big Parks]

Yo, what's wrong with you, dog? This thing called my phone the other day and was like, yo, why you ain't answer the phone? Yo, y' all needed some of your Mexicans. I said, hey, what are you talking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I needed some as workers. I didn't say I need some of your Mexicans. I said I need some of your.

[Corey]

I think you said that as a.

[Joe Budden]

Pod, but, I mean.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm hoping they forgot that part.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah, you did. So you went and got some Africans?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Big Parks]

Why is there ethnicity important, yo, why? Because I want to support it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll tell you later why it's an important topic for the show today, but I want to. I want to support undocumented people because they don't get labor. They don't get access to jobs. Trying to do the right thing. And I pay them a fair wage. They get mad access to jobs.

[Big Parks]

Okay, Spike.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, Spike Lee.

[Joe Budden]

I pay him. I pay them a park full of shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I pay them a very fair wage. You gave them $100, right? 150. I ended up giving 200. I doubled it. I doubled 100 each.

[Big Parks]

I think. I think you. I think you said you gave him something different last time.

[Corey]

You did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, you rewind it. I mean, not now, but I mean, like, audience. No, no, I'm saying I gave him. I gave him more than they asked for, I'll tell you that. He said that. It's a major question, though. Do you have a New Balance deal? You've been looking. I love the sweatsuits.

[Joe Budden]

They fresh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You've been doing the matching sneakers. I heard you on the phone saying, yeah, I got everything on when you came in.

[Corey]

Just make sure the check is right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah. I just want to know.

[Big Parks]

You got the socks, too again. You had the socks last time we found them.

[Joe Budden]

They do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because we've had situations before. People have deals and they don't let people know.

[Joe Budden]

Word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, we did.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I won't say his name. He definitely did.

[Big Parks]

Oh, he did?

[Joe Budden]

Gotcha.

[Big Parks]

I don't know anything about that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, you didn't answer your question, though.

[Big Parks]

I don't have a new balance, dude.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, but who go into a store.

[Joe Budden]

And just buy a whole new balance.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And say, let me get everything on this mannequin? A 60 year old man.

[Corey]

I think I see the MB on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There too good for that, bro.

[Big Parks]

I'm telling you, I ain't stupid. How long is the deal? You got a pandy deal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not. This is some other Linden and farmers.

[Big Parks]

No, but pandy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's not. But answer this question.

[Big Parks]

I answered it, Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If we get outside deals for, like, apparel, can we just come in and rock it? You don't care or you asking for a cut? He can't ask Ish for a cut. It's certain he can't ask. Oh, he ain't ask Ish for cut your mind.

[Joe Budden]

You know how deal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What the.

[Joe Budden]

This the only.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I go over here. How the you ask about my deal? I ain't take enough. And you playing with me the last time. Get that.

[Joe Budden]

He know case by case.

[Big Parks]

That's crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That means I want to see how much money it is and I want to see who wearing it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. How much do I believe in this vision, Right? If I think that this is going to take off, get on the ground floor. Need a little bit. Need a little bit.

[Big Parks]

I got to get on the Runway.

[Joe Budden]

Before it take off. But y' all got my friendship support, like, in anything that y' all want to do or come in here and endorse, like, but with a cap, of course. Like pass a certain number then. That bad?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, yes.

[Big Parks]

What's wrong with you? Let me ask you a question. How would you know?

[Joe Budden]

Don't ask me no question. So now we're gonna sit here and lie. I was gonna have fun with y', all, but now we all gonna lie. Are we all gonna lie about this? Wait, I don't know what a lie is.

[Big Parks]

I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Probably, but I.

[Joe Budden]

What's the question? You gotta know the question before you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Know I'm saying, yes, I likely will, but I wanna know what the answer is. What's the question?

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Ish comes in here with. I hate that we do this here, but Mark is good at the job. Ish comes in here with a idea. Fucking reusable dog food. Can something. Something I think is gonna go. But now I think that this. I think the second that this is announced. Oh, somebody. We just need an audience of people that can hear. Hear this.

[Big Parks]

Where could we get one of those?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There was a place.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying I would have to have further conversations with Ish. Are y' all saying that makes sense? That's not the case for y'.

[Big Parks]

All. No, that makes a lot of sense.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, if we were you.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I would support my people and let them.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I know you. I know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Refillable dog food without penalty.

[Big Parks]

He did say he was going to lie. I think Mark was.

[Joe Budden]

Mark would what?

[Big Parks]

Just let you rock?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I really would just let you rock.

[Big Parks]

I think it will. I think he would.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody, not you.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all got Miz up.

[Big Parks]

I wouldn't be mad at the conversation. Basically, it's a commercial.

[Joe Budden]

Miz, throw enough activism out there to make you miss the radical. Like, y' all not Mr. Radical, Mr. Capitalist and that. The racist shit. All types, which. We'll get to it tomorrow. We gonna get to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm happy to get to it.

[Big Parks]

We gonna get to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, shit. He's staying here, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All. All right. You gotta light Mark up later in this episode. I'm totally shocked. All right.

[Big Parks]

Oh, man. We gotta hear what they talking about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're gonna agree with them.

[Big Parks]

No, you agree with them. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, oh, with us?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You're gonna agree with us.

[Big Parks]

It's possible. No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

You're gonna agree with us. All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You be having the jab.

[Big Parks]

Did you take a picture?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll be trying to go back and act like. Listen. I'll be trying to go back to the niggas that. That may not listen to act like it's my.

[Joe Budden]

Wait till you hear this, Ace.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna send you some music.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Big Parks]

I'm gonna put you on the playlist for you.

[Joe Budden]

You got an iPhone. You know, we could send playlists through the iPhone. Now this iPhone, the iPhone. Nah, I enjoyed how the last part started. So I'm staying in my age appropriate bag. Okay?

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Staying in my parks, man. I miss you, man.

[Corey]

Miss you too, buddy.

[Joe Budden]

See, he ain't saying Sparks is the smoothest.

[Big Parks]

Dude, play some Stacy ladders all.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my girl.

[Corey]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

You got the easy job. All you got to do is sit back and catch a vibe, man. You know what I mean? Text somebody you love real quick. I mean, say, baby Joe, just put me on some new lotion. I'm bringing it home. Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2nd, 1, 2, 1,2.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We used to place an occult every week. I'm not being funny.

[Corey]

Yes, you are.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not trying to be. Are you serious? Yeah, Cuz. Nibiru. The ship was coming to take us.

[Joe Budden]

In the mic, please.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The ship. Nibiru was coming to take us off the planet and save us. And so he would play Starship Come Take Me away every Sunday and Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Cory, I'm with you. Just get a man part of the month if you going to keep doing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When I hear that song, I immediately think of Eatonton, Georgia in the cult. He was singing as Dr. York too.

[Joe Budden]

Old appearance out there.

[Corey]

Mark about turn into a zombie and shit.

[Big Parks]

You start doing some in here. How about that?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got a little trans, too.

[Joe Budden]

Y. I mean, we doing it for the lovers out there, always for the ladies. I feel like we missing too much. Much. We miss it too much. I don't feel like the audience knows what y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All. I said he got into a trans. I said he got into a trans. He said trans. I'm sorry. So marks are trans. He said that must have been another part of the cult. It was a funny bit.

[Big Parks]

Come on. For some D's, man.

[Joe Budden]

Word, word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't know about this.

[Joe Budden]

If it's one person in here that knows about it. So thank you. When he used to run around saying he was Cuba Gooden's cousin, when the boys in the hood was out, man, they was running around town having a blast. Was out waiting.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Lying ass nigga.

[Big Parks]

I was like 7 years old.

[Joe Budden]

How many n was your cousin when you were younger?

[Big Parks]

I don't do that. Rick Fox don't do that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Give me some more lights. Get niggas.

[Joe Budden]

I don't.

[Big Parks]

Rick Fox.

[Joe Budden]

Rick Fox. He was definitely wrong with Christopher W.O. williams. You did that. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's definitely Christopher. You was Christopher Williams.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'll be sure I'll be unsure. This say, you know, Johnny Matthews is my man. What's wrong with you?

[Joe Budden]

This old ass.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's wrong with you? Yo, what the holy.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Big Parks]

Yo, you a fool though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Holy old just be lying. Damn, she related to everybody.

[Joe Budden]

Talking about I'm. I'm in full force. I'm skinny like this. Was getting some wild eyes off in. In. In the 70s and 80s.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Joe Budden]

No, for real.

[Big Parks]

Honestly, I got tears in my eyes.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all are idiots.

[Big Parks]

All right, Holy.

[Joe Budden]

We have to do a pod at some point. All right, all right, enough of y'. All. I have to intro this, please. All right. People have the volume up in their cars. You going to the campus up when this Come on, Flip, baby.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you. Oh, yeah. Don't even understand Atlantic Star.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. Y' all know what this is. God damn it, man. Hold on, hold up. We let this go scenario to show.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You the full quiet what y' all talk about.

[Joe Budden]

Girl, you are to me. Might be one of the best duets ever made too. By the way. This fire and desire. I gotta make my list.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Let me hear you out there. And we both know will grow and forever Let me out there. You and me, ladies. You with your man. Take the mic from him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You like the sun chasing.

[Joe Budden]

When you come back. Look at this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at.

[Joe Budden]

All right, one more. One more chorus and we're starting. One more chorus. And versus talk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How you.

[Big Parks]

How you.

[Joe Budden]

How do you cut this?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let it rock, let it rock, let it rock.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, shout to wherever you might be listening from whole New Jersey, whole New York City, everybody traveling right now. We got a great show lined up for you today.

[Big Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You better get the performance.

[Joe Budden]

That's fine.

[Big Parks]

How you know that song?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that's fine.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was gonna ask him the same thing.

[Big Parks]

Yo, how you know that's like how.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You be on Atlantic Star and Stadium? Stacey last time?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Tribe Called Quest. Well, when I was younger, I told you when I used to go to school, my mom, only one station would work.

[Joe Budden]

The AM station. Yeah, AM.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So she would play all this. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

1430, WNJ. That's Crazy Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wedding gonna be lit. Let us talk about.

[Joe Budden]

He could be crying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a beautiful song.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They're not coming out, but that's all.

[Joe Budden]

I might have to be played at a wedding. Of course, I know the young girls probably don't. The young wives probably didn't do that. Cause Back that Ass up came out now. Which we'll talk about in a second because that is still a wedding.

[Corey]

That should come out.

[Joe Budden]

That is still a wedding song. Back that Ass Up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That could be the song that's a mess in my top five.

[Joe Budden]

Which song? That song always up there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's up there, that way. Here and now. There a couple that like for me.

[Joe Budden]

Here and now. Heat wave always in forever.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Make it last forever. Keep sweating, Jesse Powell. You absolutely Neil Ice in Parks's case. Wait till I get my money right. That was banned from tv. I ain't gonna lie. Park's wedding was. It's time me and Ice got.

[Big Parks]

I'm doing it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not. I'm done waiting on you.

[Big Parks]

You ain't gonna wait on me.

[Joe Budden]

I had a long talk.

[Big Parks]

Real quick.

[Joe Budden]

Let me intro this. What episode is this?

[Corey]

873.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 873 of the JOE Button Podcast brought to you by Fuel by Powered by Prize Picks Prize Picks gang, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored, fully dressed host, Joe Budden here. I got an amazing night's sleep. So happy to be here with you guys. And I'm here with some apartment.

[Corey]

I like your shoes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, thank you, man. Appreciate that. They really comfortable. Really comfortable. Take it. I'm with some real with some really good people. The most amazing cast in the universe is here to my right. Queens, get the money. Queens, Flip is in the building next to him. That's right. He still works here. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. He still works here even though he went and bought 200 Powerball tickets. Big ish. King wah wah. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up himself is here next to him. You already know the vibes. Mr. Take it further. Himself. Mr. Your favorite troller's favorite troller. Big Freeze in the building next to him. You already know, man. Come on. Needs no explanation. Smoothest guy I know. King Elmira. Big Parks is in the building next to him. Poe is here. Corey is here. Which I didn't speak to you about your weekend, but I will at some point. I will at some point. Don't think because we ain't talking that I'm not still monitoring your situation over there with this girl. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote. Last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people are out there. Shout out to the patronies. If you are not subscribed, now would be a great time to do so before the prices raised January 2nd. Now, I really had. I'm gonna ask a very stupid question that I'm serious about. Out.

[Corey]

I love these.

[Joe Budden]

I'm cool with. Guy proposes, guy gives her an engagement ring. So now the world knows that this person is off the market, Right? What exists for the guy to let the world know that he is also off the market once he proposes? Moses, the girl.

[Big Parks]

His word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's it. Nothing. Plus, once you get engaged, you ain't never gonna be separated from her.

[Joe Budden]

They'll know the girl.

[Big Parks]

I'm telling you, the girl.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You won't have to do nothing. She'll be right there.

[Joe Budden]

Her. Okay, I received what y' all are saying. I think there should be. I said that. That's one of the things I want to change.

[Corey]

Okay, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're gonna start it because you want an engagement ring.

[Big Parks]

I follow up. Don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

An engagement change set you up.

[Joe Budden]

That's how it normally goes.

[Corey]

Engagement watch, I think should be the thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Engagement watch.

[Corey]

I think engagement watch should be the thing.

[Big Parks]

Engagement watch.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying that something should exist if the men that holler at your wife decrease by 30% because there's a ring.

[Big Parks]

Oh, time right there.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm not trying to come up with accurate.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Corey]

That doesn't real.

[Joe Budden]

But increases.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's not how our story.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Want to nail marry women.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. That can't be true.

[Corey]

No, sure it is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's true.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think it gives them a.

[Corey]

Nice out to be like.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know that's what I'm thinking about you right?

[Big Parks]

Yo don't still holler, but they still holler.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You crazy for sure.

[Big Parks]

You ain't got to commit.

[Joe Budden]

Mathematically, that cannot be true.

[Big Parks]

You don't have to commit. Listen to him. She's married already. You ain't got to commit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So she goes and the wedding breaker, you know, look. Look at this.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all don't think that an engagement ring deters.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it deters some.

[Joe Budden]

But you don't think there's a community that it deters.

[Corey]

I think there's also a lot of men that feel like she's fronting, like it's not even a real ring.

[Big Parks]

Joe.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this is the most toxic room. No, what they say about it?

[Big Parks]

A wedding ring. Stop a From Harlem.

[Corey]

It don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It stop a few. I think 30 is crazy. I think 5%, maybe 10%.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I would. Yeah. Listen, that wasn't my man. Come up with real numbers. Something should exist for the man to where I'm not just running around saying, hey, I'm engaged. Hey, I'm engaged. I agree. I'm a high piece of ass still.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So come up with something.

[Big Parks]

They said just your tr.

[Corey]

I think we should get watches.

[Joe Budden]

No, they didn't. No, they didn't. And they probably did tell you. You right there. Save them. For real. What he was doing? Doing. Oh, wow.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Give me more details.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He can't do it like that.

[Joe Budden]

I love this.

[Corey]

I think we should get engagement watches.

[Big Parks]

Yo, rings is dope. I think rings.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it should be a ring.

[Big Parks]

I think it should be a ring.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'd rather have a watch.

[Big Parks]

No, that's good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The reason why we already wear watches.

[Big Parks]

I'm gonna tell you why the watch ain't really the good idea. Because the thing is, it's not just the ring.

[Joe Budden]

It's the finger that the ring Is on.

[Big Parks]

So all of that is a symbol of the thing. So a man wear a watch that don't say nothing. Can't tell. They don't say nothing. You wear a watch right now maybe.

[Corey]

Put it on the other hand head.

[Big Parks]

Some days where they watch on the.

[Corey]

Other hand that they're weird.

[Joe Budden]

No, I need a. I need my own. I need a ring. I'm changing that.

[Corey]

I need watch hand.

[Joe Budden]

You're weird. Cuz she keeps sending me clips of like whatever the. The wedding ring is. It connect to the wedding band you already. So women just get to have a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They got everything. Women having a blast for sure.

[Joe Budden]

You paying for a wedding, a house ring, another ring. Yeah, this ain't.

[Big Parks]

That's just the first ring you gotta upgrade later on.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, you gotta refi.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My wife already talking about the upgrade.

[Joe Budden]

Really?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'? All.

[Big Parks]

What, two years?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, hell no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She's not. To be fair, she's not. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

You're making more money now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She's not asking for it now.

[Big Parks]

You're making more money now. She just put it out there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She reminded me that there is a re up that will be happening.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, she ain't wanna bleed you. When you was at these campuses on.

[Big Parks]

The podium, five or ten.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Five, I think.

[Big Parks]

Five, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you still Bill Cosby again?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. What y' all arguing about? She ain't want to bleed you. When you was blackballed and she was. She's sticking by.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got porches. Oh, there's a Patreon. Let's go. Oh, go do like tires weekly.

[Joe Budden]

That is so funny.

[Big Parks]

That's hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

That is so funny, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We do fire.

[Big Parks]

This whole is designed to keep is. Is against us anyway.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We waiting on Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

We deserve. We deserve Freeze.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Going to have the drone. I'm waiting on you.

[Corey]

Little piece of jewelry.

[Big Parks]

Yes. When you guys got married. Carry your wetting pants that you have. Y' all bought them?

[Corey]

I bought them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I bought mine.

[Big Parks]

Is that traditional that they supposed to buy it or no? I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

Mark got his from Sojourner Walker or somebody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, she goes by Tiffany, but yeah, he had his blessed. Can you bless this, please? It's Tiffany. I do. I have a platinum one and a gold one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Tiffany.

[Big Parks]

Depending on which one. Depending on which Rolex he wears.

[Joe Budden]

Tiffany. The two head? Yeah. What? Tiffany up the block? Yeah, we got. I've been in Tiffany's too. I ain't see you mean. Talking about Tiffany.

[Big Parks]

Little Tiffany jump rope.

[Joe Budden]

With the Acura.

[Big Parks]

Stop playing with it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The Go the go.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I'm watching some of them dude wedding band shits. Maybe. Maybe it's cuz y' all got married back in the day. Dave, that's. That's great. The new.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's out extravagant.

[Big Parks]

My girl like the black one. My girl like the fire. You see the black joints.

[Corey]

I don't like the black.

[Big Parks]

She's fire doing a car.

[Corey]

That's good for you.

[Joe Budden]

Fine, I don't think that's why. I ain't trying to make a joke. No, they don't. I skipped the joke. I'm bonding with you.

[Big Parks]

No, Parks made the joke.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You were looking at wedding pants.

[Big Parks]

No, my girl seen them the other day and was like, yo, you like that? And I was like, hold up now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, okay. Stay focus, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We should have knew when you got that door.

[Joe Budden]

We should have kn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We should have knew when you got. When you got little Milo and fo.

[Joe Budden]

You should have do something was going on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Is Milo and Philo. This a fool? Look at my man is. That's right, man.

[Corey]

That's your wedding band.

[Joe Budden]

The dog.

[Corey]

That's how she got you a new best friend.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A question real quick because we do talk about marriage a lot up here, and your wife, your girl is an avid podcast listener. Do she ever come to you about.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all getting married?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because we talk about it a lot.

[Big Parks]

I mean, if you're in a relationship.

[Joe Budden]

Good ass question.

[Big Parks]

No, if you're in a relationship, marriage comes up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Budden]

How do you avoid it? Like you have. Maybe you could give me some more trouble. I'm running out of.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Fights and stuff.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. All right, fine.

[Big Parks]

You.

[Joe Budden]

She got. My girl got a dog already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She had the picture of the dog.

[Joe Budden]

That'S supposed to buy you some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's for.

[Corey]

How do you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How do you.

[Big Parks]

We've had marriage conversations, but it don't be no pressure on none of that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So when she mentions like a wedding band that looks good on you, you don't see that as a hint.

[Big Parks]

Was watching tv.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Joe Budden]

What did you say? Qbc. Qbc.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said it like that was.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this is my man. Y. I love.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because what you was watching. Y' all got Netflix just watches the infomercials.

[Joe Budden]

He is 100% him no matter what. We was watching TV. What did that change about what we said?

[Big Parks]

Not like it wasn't a conversation. It just so happened to be. We was watching TV and she liked the bed. The black ring.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's cuz you need two people to have a conversation. She initiated the conversation when she said, oh, look, bae, he said, oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Wow. What do you think of that one, B?

[Corey]

You turn up the volume.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This the best part.

[Big Parks]

That damn Mahomes Y is she is she had to throw a hint point yet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, that wasn't him.

[Joe Budden]

That was the hit. Oh, no, no, no. If he keep missing the hint, it don't matter.

[Big Parks]

There's subtle hits and then there's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He know the hints. He avoid the hints.

[Big Parks]

I'm saying she had that point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She's still doing just subtle hints. Like, do you like that wedding band?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Is there. Yeah. Thank you. Is there a world?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Talk about if you want.

[Joe Budden]

Is there a world where that.

[Big Parks]

You're just missing the hints, My girl not like that.

[Corey]

Is there a world where this conversation is going?

[Big Parks]

My girl is acting. That's funny. Yo, my girl not ready to see subtlety type. My girl will just be like, yo.

[Joe Budden]

What are we doing?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, she don't really be beating.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When do you anticipate the are we doing conversation?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. You not tripping.

[Joe Budden]

As long as we can string him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Along, I'm coming to your wedding, boy. You ain't leaving us out getting married on the island somewhere we flying.

[Joe Budden]

You're more than welcome. Make sure my girl sending me all these tik toks of niggas that propose after a year, so. They stupid. They're really stupid. Stupid. Look at this.

[Corey]

With.

[Big Parks]

How many of them still together now, though?

[Joe Budden]

Word. Happy.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. How many were happy? They ain't got what we got, bae.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm doing it, but it's like my third. My third hurrah, so I don't feel like doing it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How many days?

[Joe Budden]

Making it. All right, all right.

[Big Parks]

Careful.

[Joe Budden]

I don't feel like making it home. Balloons in the sky.

[Corey]

One for three is not bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

One for three isn't bad at all.

[Joe Budden]

Stupid. Come on. You know what time it is. Like, stop playing, man. Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Popping. Anyway, did I intro this? I did. Yeah, you did. I'm me. We.

[Big Parks]

Us.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

Awesome. Let's get right to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got an issue though. Or not issue a question. Because you said you bought a bunch of Powerball tickets.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And then earlier today, you suggested that you might buy some Powerball tickets.

[Big Parks]

No, he said we should buy them collectible.

[Joe Budden]

To me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Whoa, whoa.

[Big Parks]

No. That's not what you said. You did say that we should do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, the offer you already seen.

[Big Parks]

You already try to be grimy.

[Joe Budden]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's my Ticket.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's if we lose.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, I did. Yeah, right.

[Corey]

The rest of us, y' all want.

[Big Parks]

To entertain, I'm going to buy my own ticket.

[Joe Budden]

Well, you already bought your own ticket.

[Big Parks]

I did, but I don't want to be in the county with you.

[Joe Budden]

We wouldn't hurt each other over money.

[Big Parks]

700.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't urge you over 700 million.

[Big Parks]

To be clear. 14 bricks in that bag right there. 14 bricks in that bag right there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you knock him off. Oh, knock off Joe.

[Corey]

Yo, I for one would be cool with the 100 million if we, you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Know, I'd be fine with that, but I don't think Joe should be a part of it. I think we should X Joe out.

[Corey]

Cuz he already got it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think Joe should be allowed to play Powerball. I think like Joe should even play.

[Corey]

He already hit the Powerball.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Parks]

Ball of 700. Yo, you are crazy.

[Joe Budden]

But Mark really has these radical views, so I can't even be mad. He's dead ass about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm dead ass serious. If I but like this, if I had your money, I wouldn't play Powerball. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

You that's too much.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz the out there that could actually win that need it, he got too much moral life. I'm not saying he doing nothing wrong. I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.

[Corey]

Hold up.

[Big Parks]

So Joe playing a Powerball don't take away from another that my might potentially get it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, it does.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's where my problem with him is. Your action don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because if they win two, they split it.

[Joe Budden]

All right?

[Big Parks]

The other ain't complaining.

[Joe Budden]

I bet you that much. Mark, your action don't change the system. Another rich person could win it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm telling all rich people don't play. So y' all don't be part of the mix.

[Joe Budden]

I know, but you telling me, not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You personally, I'm not saying just you as Joe. I'm saying anybody that make as much money as you, I don't think I'm.

[Joe Budden]

At that much money. And that's where we go back to earlier Patreon episode we had where I asked you what is that number for you where you put a cap on what people should be able to attain.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't putting a cap on how much money you should earn right now. I'm saying Powerball.

[Big Parks]

You just put a cap on it. When you said somebody that Powerball earning. No, listen, you said Somebody that makes as much money as him shouldn't play. Shouldn't play. Which means it's capped at the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it should be a rule. I'm just saying. Nigga, come on. I'm not saying we should outlaw it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, dog, you are up.

[Big Parks]

And I'm trying to get where. And not for nothing, up is relative.

[Corey]

Yeah, word.

[Joe Budden]

You up too. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I think anybody think of that.

[Big Parks]

Looks at Joe like a welfare case.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think that's what.

[Joe Budden]

That's what.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We in a situation more than me should not be allowed. That's why we was beefing, man.

[Joe Budden]

Stop, cuz. The funny part, that's why I don't with Mark. Because if I believed that he truly believed what he was saying, saying he would be included in that indeed.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't play. That's why I don't play Powerball.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Mark, I'm gonna slap this. I hate this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, you gotta respect.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, so we gonna do the company Powerball.

[Big Parks]

You.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm a team player now.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, hold on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't wanna up the chemistry we done established up here over the last couple.

[Big Parks]

What's that called? You on a load restriction, Kawhi a team player. So if the team. Team win. You know the lessons.

[Joe Budden]

Freeze.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When he thought y' all won, the stepped off to ignore his life immediately. Oh, yeah, I forgot that. I'm not over that. He said, honey, he won't believe this. It's an ice woman. My wife was legit mad at me like.

[Joe Budden]

Like you was legit mad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I was disappointed.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying. I'm saying she was mad like I up. She was like, how'd you met a 4:1 and you still didn't get it? Like, what the you want me to do?

[Big Parks]

You was scratching them shits like mess.

[Joe Budden]

Like they did something on fire, yo. And that's on the patreon.

[Big Parks]

I forgot that you did that. You fronting up here? Yeah, you fronting.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Where am I fronting on? I didn't play. He gave me a ticket.

[Big Parks]

You should have been like, those is my brothers.

[Joe Budden]

I'm happy they did one.

[Big Parks]

I'm in a good space. It don't matter if they won or not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't in a good space.

[Joe Budden]

Mark get away with a lot of shit, yo. Not deadass.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If I was in a good space, I wouldn't be working here. What are you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

I want to go home. That's why they talk. Look what you doing, dog?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Whistling. Somebody please bring A home. Stop it.

[Joe Budden]

You find him here, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Vito.

[Joe Budden]

You wild native.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, Mark was calling out to us.

[Joe Budden]

Funny about what he said is I could tell that there's a lot of them educated that got smoked with Mark and Kway family to get his leg. Little hooting, patooting ass back over to that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Keep waiting. It's quite a few of them.

[Big Parks]

You know what they want.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've seen those checks.

[Joe Budden]

I won't be back over there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They waiting for the starship.

[Joe Budden]

Go to Risk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Risk.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all showing y' all yesterday up for y'. All. Y' all are.

[Big Parks]

So what we doing? We going to buy the tickets.

[Joe Budden]

We buying tickets. We buying tickets.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll be a team player.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody. Somebody going to go. Y' all know where to go. And. Yeah, actually go to two spots. Go over there by that Tim Hortons, too.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's the spot. Somebody won over there.

[Joe Budden]

Go to that Tim Hortons. But go down into my little. I mean, back down to my. All right, we got a great show line. This is the best show on Earth. Make some noise for the best show on Earth.

[Big Parks]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Best show on Earth. Her great show lined up for y'. All. Let's get right to it. Come on. An hour in. Hour in. Let's get right to it.

[Big Parks]

I care.

[Joe Budden]

Versus. Versus.

[Big Parks]

Versus.

[Corey]

His back ice.

[Big Parks]

Well, no, first I just want to salute them for actually bringing Versus back and being successful. Sure. J backs in. Well, a lot of people. I didn't say.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't.

[Big Parks]

I said a lot of people myself. Equity check over there. Yo, he did.

[Joe Budden]

I think I did, but, I mean, ask me. I was going, yeah, I got it. Where's that? Where's that mill?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You still want this on your PowerPoint.

[Corey]

Skillion?

[Joe Budden]

I do. Gotta look into some of my old jackets. Oh, God. All right, yo.

[Big Parks]

Stop.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all an idiot. No, I've always said I've had some of the best times in my life, and I'm not taking them for granted during verses Versus.

[Big Parks]

No, we. We loved it. But I'm just saying it was a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

And even when y' all turned on him and was like, oh, that's just some pandemic shit. It's over. There's no more matches you can have. I wasn't on that side of the fence. And that's not because they gave me. Whatever they gave me. I just think it was a brilliant idea.

[Big Parks]

It is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a brilliant idea.

[Joe Budden]

It is.

[Big Parks]

I just like that they stuck with it. Like, even when it looked like it was over, they Tried over here. They tried over there. They, you know, announced a deal with X that whatever happened, like, they kept. They stuck with it. And we have a successful versus and.

[Corey]

I hope they continue to stick with.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, absolutely.

[Big Parks]

But we did get cash money, no limit. Went down over the weekend in Vegas. Complex kind. I got a lot of takeaways.

[Joe Budden]

Case. Before you even get to that, I do want to shout out Complex Con. Yeah, it looked like y' all did the right this year.

[Corey]

Yeah, it seems like that way. Although I would. This is a later thing. The scheduling seemed a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Like.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Huh.

[Corey]

You get to rush this off stage at the climax to get to that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

To what?

[Joe Budden]

That. I'm not. No disrespect to you. I'm talking about having the people, the right people down there.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I think I seen Cam, I seen Fat Joe. I seen. I know they invited us down there, so you got that part covered. I saw a lot of artists down there. It seemed to be cultural. A lot more cultural than normal. Like, Complex Con has been known for it. Like, they got a bad rap. Like south by started to get a bad rap. Like Art Basel started to get a bad rap. Like, when people are going out there and it's just not the culture people. Yeah, yeah. So even down to the Versus lineup, to the Versus matchup, somebody back there knew what they was doing. I want to tip my hat to those people. Shout out to Complex.

[Big Parks]

That is true.

[Joe Budden]

You were saying freeze. I'm sorry.

[Big Parks]

No, I was just. So we start with. Well, first off, a couple things. I have a few takeaways. Start there. First was the crowd. I was pleased, Very pleased with the crowd.

[Corey]

Me too.

[Big Parks]

At first, I'm like, this is Vegas.

[Corey]

Oh, I was weary about it.

[Big Parks]

I was very worried. Yeah, I was.

[Joe Budden]

I, I. I wasn't at all. But I let y' all go ahead and get.

[Big Parks]

I'm just like, you know, because again, these are two local groups from New Orleans.

[Joe Budden]

Horrible crowd. That crowd didn't know what was going on. I disagree about it.

[Big Parks]

I totally disagree.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Some of them in the front did.

[Joe Budden]

Know Couple of children. I mean, it was a very big crowd.

[Big Parks]

But I'm just saying it was still when certain records were performed and they cut the music, you heard the crowd, and I'm talking about these. Not the. Not the mainstream. There was some of them songs that if, you know, you knew what these parts were.

[Joe Budden]

Nah.

[Big Parks]

So I heard a lot of that.

[Joe Budden]

Boo for the crowd.

[Big Parks]

Well, we are listening to that.

[Joe Budden]

I just want to get your take and my take.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. For sure.

[Joe Budden]

I am booing the crowd, and I feel like that has to be overstated for cultural reasons. No matter what you thought of that crowd, once that battle started, you felt like New Orleans was raw. If you thought that crowd was amazing, once that battle started, you felt like New Orleans deserved this. The way that New York deserved dipset and the lot.

[Big Parks]

I see what you're saying.

[Joe Budden]

For all of the years of buildup and rumors and from the 90s to now, people were shocked to even see some of these people on the same stage.

[Big Parks]

Okay, so stop right there.

[Joe Budden]

It almost might have been better for it to be in New Orleans.

[Corey]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Them stream it and y' all get some type of feed.

[Big Parks]

I disagree. They might not have got the budget, but we just fucked the budget. They might not have. Throwing at a wall again. This was.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just throwing at a wall. Cool.

[Big Parks]

But the history between these two camps, especially dating back to when they first started damn near there. There's a lot of street shit involved here. It is. I don't think you can do this in New Orleans.

[Corey]

Oh, for safety reasons.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Corey]

Got it.

[Big Parks]

That's what I'm talking about. Again, there was a lot of, like, one of the highlight moments that didn't really get talked about a lot was Master P literally walking all the way across the stage to go and dat Birdman up. That's a very big.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a huge deal.

[Big Parks]

That's Gucci.

[Joe Budden]

Jeezy.

[Big Parks]

Well, not. Well, a step under. But that's like. That happening at that versus that is a very big deal. It got overshadowed, but. Cause people don't know. Cause people don't know. That's true.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't know neither.

[Big Parks]

That's why I don't think you can do that battle in New Orleans with as many people as everybody's gonna bring. Ring. It could still be some tension from some. That happened.

[Joe Budden]

Perfect.

[Big Parks]

Do it in Vegas.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry. That's hip hop. However many police you need to get.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah, No, I just.

[Joe Budden]

However much in Toronto. So that's just a part of hip hop.

[Big Parks]

I agree with you.

[Joe Budden]

And for safety reasons, I'm with you. But that looks good on camera.

[Big Parks]

No, he's right.

[Joe Budden]

It looks good on.

[Big Parks]

They had pandemonium. He's right for hip hop. But I. I get Ice's point. But think about this. They had motherfucking Jeezy and.

[Joe Budden]

And. And.

[Big Parks]

And Gucci at Magic City. Okay, let's stop right there. That is cultural relevance, if you correct. Beyond.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That little bit of angst that was in the Air.

[Big Parks]

It was.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's part of the package.

[Big Parks]

True, true. But it took. I don't. And we're jumping. I know, but it took a level headed Jeezy to say, I'm going up there. Don't solo. I'm going up there. Because I know what he's gonna come with. We again, if Master P and Baby walk up there, or if KLC and Fresh walk up there, because those are the producers. If you're doing it without everybody and their crews and these, yeah, you could possibly get that. But if we can't guarantee that, let's move this somewhere neutral just to be on a safe side. And it's about money, so we gonna do it. The budget was crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Probably that Jeezy has a level of maturity to make the battle sway in a certain direction, which Gucci just admitted to on the Breakfast Club. Then you have to say that about Masterpiece. If there were to be both of them, what PNB and Baby Knock it.

[Big Parks]

Off to an extent.

[Joe Budden]

Knock it off.

[Big Parks]

There's records.

[Joe Budden]

Way more mature, Baby.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You can still tell with Baby what he was saying.

[Joe Budden]

If we were to pick a president, a spokesperson, a. A leader to speak for, for us globally, for hip hop, Master P's name.

[Big Parks]

Would be absolutely 1000% he's up there. 1000%.

[Joe Budden]

I agree with you. And that couldn't ring any more true than when Birdman grabbed the mic at the end. Whatever peace treaty we had, that speech was enough to make somebody on the other side wonder what the is going on on. So no, but he didn't dis them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He talked about.

[Big Parks]

He didn't dis them.

[Joe Budden]

He talked about.

[Corey]

And even Turk came out and said.

[Big Parks]

The part you're talking about is when Birdman said, hey, I started this thug. That was before he went into number one stunner. He's like, I started and we're jumping again.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm talking at the very end.

[Big Parks]

I'm not the very end. That speech wasn't. That was internal that he was speaking on.

[Joe Budden]

You have some type of whatever history and we have a peace treaty or, or understanding or we cool today enough to do this. We ain't fucking the business. We businessmen. And at the end. Cause there was a battle for the last word that I don't know if anybody paid attention to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw it.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't. One side would say, all right, good night, bye, we done. And the other side would say it. But Birdman saying, anybody that want any type of smoke, we with it. We roll over, you kill your bitch ass.

[Big Parks]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

Go ahead, finish.

[Joe Budden]

It's just not.

[Big Parks]

But he was talking also.

[Joe Budden]

I hear you. Not just that he's talking to anybody that took it like he was talking to him.

[Big Parks]

Not just that Birdman, if you notice, right before he said that, he shouted out NBA YoungBoy. NBA YoungBoy's crew. Yeah, he has a new record that he just put out with NBA Youngboy and another member in their crew called that. And literally the he's saying in the song is what he's saying there. He's talking in that mode. It's not talking to y'.

[Joe Budden]

All. I don't want us to speak past each other. Of course I understand what y' all are saying. And I'm not saying that I'm right again. I'm just throwing some at the wall. I know, you're right. What, what, What I'm saying that way though. I even took that differently. Like him screaming NBA young boy. You know, I'm screaming out current. That's moving. You know how we moving and saying that at. I don't want to even highlight this because it was too beautiful of a night. It was too beautiful of a night for me to even stay here on this. There's multiple ways that that speech could have been taken. Let's move on.

[Corey]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I mean, you got the tracks.

[Corey]

I do have the tracks.

[Big Parks]

I have. So the initial first round was 400° versus German soldiers. I gave that round to no limit.

[Joe Budden]

That is.

[Big Parks]

I'm not mad at anybody. Yeah, who gives it to 400 degrees though? But that was a no limit round for me. Just the way they came out, they.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Came with so much more energy to me.

[Big Parks]

Came out with energy. They came out looking like a unit. How old is Master P? My. He gotta be 60. He gotta be 60.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

65.

[Big Parks]

His breath control to be that old and jogging place, bro. Running in place the whole entire night stop was amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Not just him. Everybody on the no limits.

[Big Parks]

Yo, boss. Seeing Boss out there, y' all might not know Boss. Boss was no limits. Coo masterpiece, homie came in the game with him day. Day one. Got it from the musk. That's a light skinned dude with no shirt. Like just seeing him up there jumping, rapping, every word like they show like solidarity. Yeah, yeah, it's the locks, like. Cause there's been words, you know, rumblings, yo, it's a problem with this and that and that. But you didn't see it on that stage.

[Joe Budden]

Stage.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you did.

[Big Parks]

You didn't see nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I want to highlight that.

[Big Parks]

That's fine.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

All that other. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Seeing me X pop out there like that, Seeing Mac pop out there like, it sounded great. Control was crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody on the no limit side. Dog. Them look like they just left a rapper marathon competition.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They trained for this.

[Joe Budden]

They look like they didn't skip a beat. They look like they could be that. And they 18.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. 19.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

Sil.

[Joe Budden]

How they was doing them records still?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I run in the beat.

[Corey]

It was it.

[Joe Budden]

I even like that Silk the Shocker. Still can't find the beat.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was funny.

[Corey]

How do you rap off beat twice.

[Joe Budden]

Like, he was offbeat on the original one for decades. I never seen nothing like that. Me either.

[Corey]

Like, it would be one thing if he was offbeat and. But that's just how he raps. And he could do it every time like that.

[Joe Budden]

But he did the off beat. Yes. Double off, Double off. Double off.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Double off.

[Joe Budden]

But I ain't gonna let y' all play with Silk the Shocker. Because I was outside and.

[Big Parks]

And Silk took a light on y'. All.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hey. If. If she said if she wasn't going, she lied.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

If she said she wasn't going with Silk the shot. Cuz she is lying.

[Big Parks]

He was one of them.

[Joe Budden]

There was a brief time in hip hop.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Where he was the heartthrob. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

He took it like.

[Joe Budden]

And one of them albums I bought was hard. Hard. I don't remember which one because they put out too many albums. But one of them Silk albums did have some cool offbeat. It was turning me a little bit.

[Big Parks]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

And we ain't gonna act like some of you current today rappers ain't.

[Corey]

Oh, that's fact.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Corey]

He might have ushered their whole style.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway. Anyways.

[Corey]

Anyways.

[Big Parks]

Any hoes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Mia X, though.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That's what I said I wanted. When I joked with you earlier.

[Joe Budden]

Earlier.

[Big Parks]

For y' all don't know. I joke with Joe when he walked out. Say, I want an apology from you and Ish. Because when I brought me an ex.

[Corey]

Name, y' all had a lot of jokes.

[Big Parks]

We all act like Mia X wasn't. That's not true. Yes, it is true. But we can find. They'll find it. That's not true. Y' all totally Mia X.

[Joe Budden]

What are you talking.

[Big Parks]

We didn't clown. What I said said was the masses don't know Mia. I'm not talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that ain't what I was saying.

[Big Parks]

That's not even this.

[Joe Budden]

That X came up in In a conversation where we were talking about some other female rappers and the female rapper we was talking about is where I had some Mia X fun. But that ain't saying that Mia X ain't me.

[Big Parks]

That's the conversation I'm talking about. Not that the master's not know.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, somebody pull it up and find it. But hey, I don't even want to highlight that today. Hey, if you. If you say apologies old, I'll say saying she was that great.

[Big Parks]

She was amazing.

[Joe Budden]

She was great. She stole her. And Juvenile.

[Corey]

That was a two. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

This was a juvenile versus. It was clearly. Which is why I've been saying I wanted juvie to have a versus.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, this was juvie.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got to put respect on his name, though. He carried that.

[Corey]

He carried him in Fresh. Maybe Fresh did his thing too.

[Big Parks]

You can tell that juvenile is actively performing.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you can see.

[Big Parks]

You can hear it.

[Corey]

Looks great.

[Joe Budden]

Sounds great.

[Big Parks]

He's not rapping over the.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Big Parks]

The. The. The track. For the most part, it was.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know you talking about free Park. Even when he missed a part of the hook, he improvised and you could tell. And he. Until the part came on like, that was something that stuck out to me as well.

[Joe Budden]

Juvenile's in great lyrical shape as well.

[Big Parks]

He's in shape, yeah, he's in shape.

[Corey]

And it's underappreciated in general, by the way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Parks]

And has one of the greatest.

[Joe Budden]

That's one of the greatest southern albums, right? Like, we'll. We'll get to Wayne not being there, but before there was a Wayne, it was juvie. It was juvenile, and this was certainly a reminder of that. It must have been good to be a kid and. Or a younger person and not really know. But then witness stuff like this. Like, versus is great on just so many different levels.

[Corey]

I remember when 400°. I forgot it might have got 4 and a half mics in the source or something like that. And people were like, blasphemy or whatever. That album is amazing. It's a classic. He broke down barriers.

[Big Parks]

When high video came dropped. That was the first single off 400 different. When high video dropped, I remember people literally clowning the out of the song. Like, what the is he talking about? He's standing. He look country as hell. Like, people weren't trying to hear that. And the next thing you know, it shot up the chart. It was like on the little video shows, number one. I'm like, yeah, this he. He got one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's an amazing.

[Big Parks]

Remember I was living in Baltimore at the Time. Love that, huh?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

They wasn't disappointed missing it. Yeah. From that coming out. Maybe up here. Yeah. Yeah. But that Baltimore, they love that Hot. That was on fire.

[Joe Budden]

Deserved a better hoe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. Definitely mailed that one in.

[Joe Budden]

He later on became somebody that could kill that beat. Yeah, I don't think that was him at that time.

[Big Parks]

He chased that.

[Corey]

And they didn't even do hot.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

No, he didn't do hot.

[Big Parks]

That's what I'm saying. They left a lot of money out there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They did.

[Big Parks]

They left a lot of. On both sides. They left a lot of money.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

One of the things I was thinking about because I, I, I thought the winner was going to be determined partially by whether Wayne was going to be there. Right. And we'll talk about Wayne in a minute. But I didn't know this was only going to be 12 songs. 13 songs.

[Corey]

Well, that was back to that scheduling thing, which, by the way, if it was in New Orleans, they might, if they did the live stream thing like you said, they might have been able to push it.

[Big Parks]

They might have did 25.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think cash money wins the longer it goes. I think they have a better chance the longer it goes. There was Saturday night wasn't a night but 12 songs. If I had known it was only 12 songs, I would have been more inclined to say no limit anyway because it's easier for no limit.

[Big Parks]

I think with no Wayne, cash money was going to run out real fast.

[Corey]

I disagree.

[Big Parks]

I think without like even the records they did perform. Because you like to hear I need a hot girl without the Wayne and Turk back and forth verse, which is the verse of the song to hear Project Chick without the Wayne verse. You, you, it you lose your stand.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. The Wayne is the first problem. That's the biggest problem.

[Big Parks]

When we first discussed the verses, I said, yo, it my. It depends if Wayne is going to.

[Joe Budden]

Be there for sure.

[Big Parks]

Because a lot of them songs he had the standout verse. You can't do we on fire. There's no way. You're already taken away from your catalog if it goes 20 and you keeping this Cash money, not young money, not none of that other shit. It's going to get spooky if I can't get to of my juvenile. Can only get you so far by yourself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. No, Wayne Hurt is the biggest issue, but 12 tracks is also a difference.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with Mark.

[Big Parks]

I agree with that.

[Joe Budden]

If, if, if it were going 12, I mean if it were going 20 songs, I think Cash Money in the Distance takes it. I may change my entire opinion if you tell me they only go into 10 and 12 records.

[Big Parks]

Indeed.

[Joe Budden]

Right. 10 and 12 records. And you tell me that that one side is not going to play Wayne. Like you kind of can't play Wayne. Cuz when. Cuz I was there, I was there for the awkward moment that was a Millie coming on the song before the last. And everybody kind of universally having the same reaction.

[Corey]

That should have been hot as of.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you even playing this? See, to me, see, it's yours. It's cash money. But culture just stood up and said, why is this on right now?

[Big Parks]

See, I looked at that.

[Joe Budden]

It almost came on like an intermission record. You didn't even know it was part of the verses.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it was confusing.

[Joe Budden]

That's how that reaction was.

[Big Parks]

I had that shit as a Hail Mary like. Cause one okay, we doing cash money. If you want to do a Wayne record, at least do a record that.

[Joe Budden]

Made me produce that.

[Corey]

That's what I was producing about to.

[Big Parks]

Say, yeah, do go dj.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right.

[Big Parks]

You know what I'm saying? You went and did a Bangladesh record. You just went to Wayne's biggest song. That's the record that Wayne closed his. His shows with now like when he performed his tour. Anything that's interesting, My. My climax record is a Millie. So that to me is the hail Mary.

[Joe Budden]

Like you are a cash money artist.

[Big Parks]

I'm just saying it, it still, it still takes away.

[Joe Budden]

Comes off funny because you know, these ain't with each other.

[Big Parks]

Not just that. To have Manny say, oh, what if he was here?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Parks]

Oh yeah. Y y Y y' all throwing it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he better. He better not. Cuz the whole night I was saying you lucky that they not playing no mystical records. Fair. You real lucky that that they not.

[Big Parks]

Playing a mystical going to 12. But no, no, that's what I'm saying. I told y' all this on the Patreon. The, the. The mystical hit hit records came after he left. No Limit. They wouldn't count. He got records.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But here I go is what ain't.

[Joe Budden]

That Cash Money Records?

[Big Parks]

Right after literally he left no Limit. It was just strictly jive and dropped. I forget the name of the album. But though that's where like Danger Shake, it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Has records, man.

[Big Parks]

Right here. Here I go. Like he got.

[Joe Budden]

But you talking about the ones that shook the building.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it wouldn't have been in the catalog.

[Joe Budden]

So now I'm in the car like doing like some Sick nigga. I might be coming from Home Depot or something. Something dumb, right? But I'm ahead. I'm a hip hop head. So I'm in there with my girl. I take my phone out and like, yo, versus she in her phone just doing baddie girl shit. All right, say less. I'm playing. These is jamming. I'm having the time. I'm having the time. Here she go. Who playing? Who? What's going on? Well, it's cash money versus no Limit. See, I like these experiences as a hip hop head talking to a non hip hop head. I enjoy it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I went through what I'm thinking. It's going to be a similar situation. Situation with Rev.

[Joe Budden]

Say who's, who's who. What's going on? Cash money versus no Limit. She don't say that. I keep jamming. I ain't paying her no money. This lit. She like, what? What? We still in the car. We like five minutes from the crib. I can't wait to get this on the honey. Boy, when I get this on the honey.

[Big Parks]

She said, what? They got.

[Joe Budden]

Said what no Limit got? I said, no limit is. Make it say, oh, no limit is. You bad about it. You know I'm bad about it. No limit is them other. Because I'm down with my. I'm good. I'm like, no limit. She said, what? What else? I said, what else? Don't talk to me no more. As soon as I picked the phone back up, See my memory bad. I forgot about some of this. No limit too. But I was outside when I picked that phone back up. No. Said, you ain't got to tell me too much from the look in you.

[Big Parks]

I said that.

[Joe Budden]

I can tell it's coming up and you ain't got your boo if you want to, I want to too. I was there for that one.

[Big Parks]

And she started singing it.

[Joe Budden]

Look, well, no. She started to gain understanding. She. She started to gain understanding. But now we done pulled up, I'm in the crib n I turn that TV on. Every no Limit song from that point.

[Big Parks]

On, that's what a Switch hit.

[Joe Budden]

This one is around.

[Big Parks]

Actually, for me, the Switch hit two songs.

[Joe Budden]

This one is around rap and don't get me started with what? By the time Chopistyle is on this bitch's neck and shaking, I was about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

To say it was up in my house. I was hyped, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I said, oh, shit. Chopper, stop.

[Joe Budden]

Hey. And what did Whatever. Whatever Cash Money did didn't answer the bell for me. For what?

[Big Parks]

Chopper style yeah, well, they did I Need a Hot Girl.

[Joe Budden]

Nope, didn't do it but that.

[Big Parks]

But again. And you know how verses do half and then you switch. They never did a switch.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

So they're rebutting every song, which is tough. And again, you can't.

[Joe Budden]

You should have had the one up.

[Big Parks]

You cannot do I Need a Hot Girl without the Wayne and Turk verse.

[Joe Budden]

You shouldn't do I Need a Hot Girl off of Chopping Style.

[Big Parks]

No, no, no. They went first. You ain't lying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

First I Need a Hot Girl went first.

[Big Parks]

I Don't Need a Hot Girl went first. And he followed with Chop. And the answer was Chopper style.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Then he came back with a Millie. It was a bad run.

[Big Parks]

Okay, I'm talking about by the time.

[Joe Budden]

Chopper style was on, I think everybody kind of knew what. But that's why you gotta give it to no Limit. Cash Money has done a great job with everything, first of all. Yeah, with everything. Everything.

[Big Parks]

Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

So we have a very good understanding of who everyone in Cash Money. It are not so much in no Limit.

[Big Parks]

Right?

[Joe Budden]

So when you got chops up there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chopper.

[Joe Budden]

Chopper who? Who even knows who the this is, Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

We ain't seen this. We have no idea who this is. He just in shape with a good barber still. And put some on and got a hit that's gonna work anytime I put it on.

[Big Parks]

Like, see, that's how he been waiting.

[Joe Budden]

For anywhere in the world.

[Big Parks]

See, that's how I'm telling you. That's how I felt when I can tell. Come on. When that record came on, Matt comes out rapping.

[Joe Budden]

That record was a BET smash. Whatever was playing videos, that record was a smash.

[Corey]

All these shits were BET smash, by the way. Rap City smash.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, but I'm like, Mac was.

[Joe Budden]

Was.

[Big Parks]

I think he was facing life like he was sentenced to life or some. And when they was able to get him out to see you still here rocking with no Limit, doing the song, looking good, sounding good, like there's the more. These are the moments where it's like, yo, if you know who these people are, know they stories.

[Joe Budden]

Appreciate to see this.

[Big Parks]

You appreciate the out of this.

[Joe Budden]

But why are you in here wearing all this no limit when you picked cash money?

[Big Parks]

I am always no limit, Joe. You know that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Big Parks]

You're not gonna play with me.

[Joe Budden]

You're not always no limit.

[Corey]

But you're.

[Joe Budden]

Not always no limit if you pick cash money.

[Big Parks]

He didn't pick cash money.

[Joe Budden]

He did pick cash.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He gave a lot of caveats. He didn't pick.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you.

[Big Parks]

Thank you. He said if Wayne don't come, it's gonna be no limit by a mile. He said it's not even going to be close.

[Joe Budden]

He might have said a lot. I have audio. Hit the rewind. Hit the rewind.

[Big Parks]

I don't care.

[Joe Budden]

Put in a little sound effect noise.

[Big Parks]

I want to do big dogs.

[Joe Budden]

Put in a little sound. You can't play with me. I work here for a living. I work here for a living. Live in.

[Big Parks]

I was in the crib with a true Scully on. Y' all talking about freeze.

[Joe Budden]

Word bombing. Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's winning? Who's winning?

[Joe Budden]

Cash money. Cash money. Hands down.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

ICE is a no limit.

[Big Parks]

I am a no limit soldier stand. I got. I got cash money winning. But I have to be in a lot.

[Joe Budden]

Keep going.

[Big Parks]

Unplug. We talk more. We talked more. No, we. We talk.

[Joe Budden]

We talk more, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Set that up when you go.

[Big Parks]

When you go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Get the.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We'll be back with more Fox News have after this.

[Joe Budden]

And you.

[Big Parks]

And you had that on. That's cool.

[Joe Budden]

Here's a commercial for sile effects. Do you have herpes all over your body? Do you have cancer and can't get rid of it? Huh? Do you have everything bad? Can't even get me all style effects. Style effects. You only got to take one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know they. You know they going to show the whole clip online.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, like you just hit the rewind for me, big dog.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was good.

[Big Parks]

No, that was good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was definitely walk you down the hall.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I'm just telling you walk. It's not. That wasn't AI.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He set the up.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't AI. You know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It wasn't AI down here. Ch.

[Big Parks]

That was three or four pods ago, bro. Last pod.

[Joe Budden]

That was Friday. Friday. That was Friday.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, we. But. But you're right. We talked about it earlier.

[Joe Budden]

We talked about it earlier and I think that's when he might have said whatever he said.

[Big Parks]

No, the last Friday.

[Joe Budden]

I said, hey, let me hear it one more time.

[Big Parks]

Hey, I don't.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not a fan of gotcha moments.

[Corey]

Even though you just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But you just let him down.

[Joe Budden]

That is going.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You just open it up from a folder to say gotcha.

[Joe Budden]

You said you not a fan of what Gotcha moments.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Only when it comes to him. He's not a fan of that.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, only when a nigga got you.

[Joe Budden]

That's who you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't like to play this. Got your game I'm just telling you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Parks]

I don't care about that.

[Joe Budden]

No limit, man. Shout out to no Limit.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

No limit.

[Big Parks]

And y' all saying if it went more. Yo, back to the. Them doing the Millie. No Wayne, already weird. No limit answers were down for my out pop.

[Joe Budden]

Snoop.

[Corey]

That was hard.

[Big Parks]

That's intercepting the hail Mary and running it back for the touchdown. That's what that is.

[Joe Budden]

That was hard. Yep.

[Big Parks]

Now hold on, hold up, hold up.

[Joe Budden]

I owe an apology too.

[Big Parks]

Hold on now. Snoop did that and left. Snoop got five other records that he could have done on no Limit.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Big Parks]

That would have been a problem. We had 12. That's what I'm trying to tell y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Big Parks]

Like the cash with no Wayne. That cash money gun was bust. He said that. He said, I told you no Wayne. It's not even gonna be close. It's not close. I got this scheduled. I have this. They did 12 rounds. Rounds. Back that ass up. Went by itself as a 13th. I had this eight to four.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

And I was being generous with. I had an 8 to 4.

[Joe Budden]

And I like that. They didn't really. Nobody really approached it like a versus. They approached it like a New Orleans celebration. I absolutely love that. I'm telling you, back that ass up is still back that ass up. Of course, like that was a party at the end for everybody. The Snoop, them other everybody verse that was. Well, he did that after they said, hey, see, we only don't going on up there. I don't. Yeah. After they said what? After they said, yo, we on the time limit. So we got four minutes left. We're gonna do one verse per song. This point moving forward. And they did a slap. Cash money to the slap. Cut that after verse. And then comes the mother. The. And they just keep letting it go. Cuz Snoop is up. They probably flew in just.

[Big Parks]

He came in just for that.

[Joe Budden]

His verse is. Is later. They did that whole song. And when they cut the beat. Cuz they did cut the beat on him. He did acapella. Yep.

[Big Parks]

He finished up.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm like Snoop Dogg. Yeah, yeah. Snoop is gonna get his complex.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But now I'm looking to see if. If Cash Money is gonna play for longer than the verse. And it didn't go like that. It was also. What I'll. What I'll say is it was done. What a great reminder. This. This was. If you missed bout it bout it.

[Big Parks]

In real life in 97, it's everything.

[Joe Budden]

That people say it was.

[Big Parks]

That is a fact.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That is a fact.

[Joe Budden]

And that's like in the hall of fame of timeless records. It is. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That whole set with Birdman doing when he went on this rant. I started this. I started the T face tattoo. That was the J Kiss moment and went the number one stunner. He said, yeah, you did. You started that town. And I started this. It was a Jadakiss moment over.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

That changed the whole perception of the battle. Cuz now even if in. In the points that cash money was winning, I'm sitting there saying, oh, this is not the part of possible without Pete. None of this is possible without Pete.

[Big Parks]

That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

Not none of it.

[Big Parks]

None of it.

[Joe Budden]

Not that. That game changing universal nothing. This changed so much. And we just looking him as somebody that made the Hornets practice squad, got some cereal and raised some good kids. Also. Jacques, get your ass off the stage. When Amelia is on and we looking.

[Big Parks]

For Lil Wayne.

[Joe Budden]

You up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what my man doing up there, Jaques.

[Joe Budden]

You know it God damn well that when a millie came on, Wayne was.

[Big Parks]

Gonna start running out apple.

[Joe Budden]

Larry Jackson think he flick. They gonna pan over the jock. I got him in the crib hype.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, they pieced it up.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, look at that jock queen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And he was rapping it too.

[Joe Budden]

That jock P and Tamar Braxton, I thought was Tony up there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody up there. Look at Tony.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, tomorrow. What the hell? There's a wild shit going on.

[Big Parks]

I did have to make some phone calls because I was like, yo, I need. Because I heard a rumors that. I don't know if it was Turk was saying it or people were saying that Turk said it. I don't know, but he was saying that. Or the rumor is that Wayne said once they was, oh, if Turk not going and y' all doing him like that, I'm not doing it. Yeah, that's what I heard that said. I just needed to clear that up. That is not true.

[Joe Budden]

True.

[Big Parks]

Okay. Wayne and I, I asked, can I repeat this? Yes, you can, Wayne1. I don't with y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Big Parks]

I was never doing this. No matter who came, no matter what. I'm not sharing a stage with y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Corey]

Damn.

[Big Parks]

I can do verses by myself.

[Joe Budden]

Facts.

[Corey]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's the thing. I was in the house saying Wayne and beat both these.

[Big Parks]

Wayne. I'm not. I don't need y' all to get a versus moment, to have a versus win a versus. So I'm not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but Birdman and Wayne and I don't know if There's a thing there, so don't take it from me. But Wayne not being there, the casual fan takes as it being a thing. Like I said, Birdman and Wayne is like finding out hov and dame. And it is one of those, like, to the niggas that know how close they came off like father and son.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got some intel on that too, too, didn't you?

[Big Parks]

Well, that's what I was just speaking to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, but I mean, is there or is there more to it than. I know he don't. With him. He didn't. Coming up. Did you get. Did you get a sense of the why?

[Big Parks]

Yes, but that's the part you can't say. Okay, don't say that part.

[Joe Budden]

I said okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

So, yeah, Birdman is a talented man. I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, he don't. Yeah, he is.

[Big Parks]

Yo, and I. I, yo, to manage to. You know, I did the cash money run when that fizzled out. You know, Wayne, you know, when he. I'm not gonna say fills it out, but wasn't as relevant as he once was. I caught the Drake in, you know, the young money run.

[Joe Budden]

See, I don't even like telling his story like that. What goes up must come.

[Big Parks]

But what I'm saying is his ability. No, his ability to keep catching one that's going up. That's what I'm speaking to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Because from there, I went to Rich Game.

[Joe Budden]

He grows every ride as long as the ride. He wrote it to the end of the roller coaster, is all I'm saying. He didn't abandon nobody when he found the next hot move.

[Big Parks]

No, no, I'm not saying that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying I just want us to highlight.

[Big Parks]

Yes, he didn't abandon nobody. But there is also a. A talent in being able to spot the next one. And I can push the next one and develop it. You know how they say, like, oh, you made Jay Z make another one? Well, baby has made another one and another one.

[Joe Budden]

Said that, you know, and the jayz correct.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

It was.

[Big Parks]

But baby has made another one and another one and another one and another one and another one. He did. That is a talent. Yeah, it is.

[Joe Budden]

And old still send them bars and develop. It's amazing.

[Big Parks]

That is amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, that type of billionaire beef where you start talking about your house ain't my art piece and my yacht is. See, I don't want that type of stress. If I just bought some that I think is ill. Don't leave me in my bubble. Don't come over here with.

[Big Parks]

I Got a hundred house on my wall.

[Joe Budden]

My kids car.

[Big Parks]

I got a hundred kids car.

[Joe Budden]

And it looked like my kid's car. Like. No, no, no. I like my Joe bunny dog. I like my Joe button yacht. Exactly. That's right.

[Big Parks]

Say y' all got 120 foot yacht. Here come this with this big ass, 15 inch dick. 400 foot yacht. Just back it up to my shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Make me want to house man. How to do it? Freak ass boy. He was a portion beef. You always looking at niggas bulge. Let me see if there's a bulge right there.

[Corey]

Stop.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, freeze real quick.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, what's up?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Didn't they. Didn't Wayne share stage with them earlier.

[Joe Budden]

This year when they was on tour?

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So something happened again.

[Big Parks]

And also Wayne has his festival this weekend.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. Okay.

[Big Parks]

He has his Louisiana. That he does every year. It's. It's Saturday in New Orleans.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

So ain't no telling what he got planned for this. But it's like, yo, I'm. No, I don't need y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Big Parks]

I'm not doing it.

[Joe Budden]

What is your no limit name?

[Big Parks]

My name is Ice.

[Joe Budden]

Now we got Helmi. No, let me scrap.

[Big Parks]

You're a soldier, yo. You supposed to be my man.

[Joe Budden]

No, we gotta have some fun. Yo, Ericson, pan the camera. Freeze take. Yo, Ericson. Also, can we get the cameras that zoom in on these black heads and smoke, too?

[Big Parks]

Oh, all right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't say these.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say these, though. But I'm saying. I'm trying to use it now to zoom in. Look at freeze face. Yo, what's your no lemon name?

[Big Parks]

Ice.

[Joe Budden]

No, it ain't.

[Big Parks]

That's my name. No limit.

[Joe Budden]

It could be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It could be take hand head.

[Joe Budden]

It could be Helme, Dusto, some. Let me see. Let me see what he would be. He would be the silver tank. What they call with the black and white silver hawks. The fox. Silver fox tank. What's a baby fox called? Help me, all right? They going to help me crack up.

[Big Parks]

That's why I'm going back to school.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Corey]

Learn about fox.

[Big Parks]

About foxes. Baby foxes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. All right, it's time for a really amazing part of the show, right? Yes. I don't know what's going on right now. Of course, what we did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm catching brain freezes. Come on, get us together, man.

[Joe Budden]

I'm getting old.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Time for the show. Come on, announce it.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't my hospice. Mute up when I'm talking. I'll take care. Meet up when I'm talking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Take Care.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't my nurse's aid.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll get it together catching a bread 47 minutes conversation.

[Joe Budden]

Give me a minute.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Where we at? Only when it comes to the bread. You remember.

[Joe Budden]

You ever argue how much you spent?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You came in here with one shot. Let me check my cat.

[Joe Budden]

This wanted. Yo. You don't do that, do you? He's that and if you buying an engagement ring you should be off from purchasing gifts for the year.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Agree.

[Joe Budden]

That's not true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You would think that. No, you're right. No, he's right.

[Big Parks]

I'm with you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just making some things like this just makes logical fundamental sense.

[Big Parks]

You think that logic and it don't make sense.

[Joe Budden]

You crazy earners. What are you talking about we the earners.

[Big Parks]

They don't care.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We. We get it.

[Joe Budden]

They got it. We get it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's family rich too gang.

[Joe Budden]

But game remains well to be three months of your salary starts counting up. That's it. Diamond N. No that's.

[Big Parks]

That's nine to five salary right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah yeah that's nine to five. No partner, not your nine to five.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You created three months of your she getting the.

[Big Parks]

Big.

[Joe Budden]

This is from Africa. She got a ghost face.

[Big Parks]

Ghost face on the little is still attached.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got the in the mind.

[Corey]

It's time for our favorite part of the show.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome. Welcome.

[Big Parks]

You going to hell for sure.

[Joe Budden]

That's the race ain't gonna want too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what rings he want already, right?

[Joe Budden]

She showed you.

[Big Parks]

You don't know. You don't know. Stop lying. I hate when you you don't know to shake nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. I hate when he does this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He be lying.

[Big Parks]

You know the cut.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't know the exact ring. But he know the. He knows the.

[Big Parks]

That's what I'm saying. You don't know the cut all that stuff. I know everything y' all two know.

[Joe Budden]

Nigga don't put the heat on me. Yes, y' all know.

[Big Parks]

You know your girl ring size.

[Joe Budden]

I mean we done held hands or.

[Big Parks]

Not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And he don't know how to do it.

[Joe Budden]

Some people out there going to think I'm serious. So yes I.

[Big Parks]

Look you going to get the old school.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, the that you put. Yeah, that's what Corey got. Cory bring that old school real quick.

[Big Parks]

Let me had the two finger rings. They put the little bar across to make that fit.

[Joe Budden]

I know, I know. I know exact ring size. And she sent me a bunch of pictures of the rings she want. Which is where our argument is right cuz? How you do you believe in Lab diamonds, right? Like, look at this, look at this. You said Joe, you see this? You said that connect to the wedding bed. It's like a transformer.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. Oh, we should do some corny, like, triple proposal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

I can meet your girl. Oh, come on, come on. Hey, I can support and share, you want. How corny is that?

[Big Parks]

That? That's corny.

[Joe Budden]

That is somebody corny looking like the. The Three Tops, Three Juices.

[Big Parks]

Yo, that is the Cordy.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Big Parks]

That was.

[Joe Budden]

If I do it, somebody better come out with some charcuterie for me. Why? Why?

[Corey]

We don't get.

[Joe Budden]

We don't give.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got everything already. Just go ahead. You got it.

[Joe Budden]

I can hear Jan out there listening to now. Oh, there goes Joe trying to convince the audience that he's going to get married.

[Big Parks]

Fans, that's what jammy say.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

That's up. Shout out to J. All right, prize picks, prize picks. Prize picks. Prize picks. Jonathan Taylor put the house.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Jonathan Otani put the house. Real easy ticket today.

[Big Parks]

Bijon get the.

[Joe Budden]

More, more, more.

[Big Parks]

Yo, Bijon cost me.

[Joe Budden]

Bijon is tricky.

[Big Parks]

Every ticket had bean on it. Every put every dollar.

[Corey]

But the Dolphins actually showed up for the first time this year.

[Joe Budden]

I don't feel like Bijon is like a every week short thing. Yeah, Bug.

[Big Parks]

Hey, I'mma help you. I'm g y. I'm going get y' all a freebie. Whatever quarterback is playing against the Steelers more. No, Cowboys and the Ravens. No Cowboys.

[Joe Budden]

Burn them Steeler uniforms.

[Corey]

That's your ugly ass.

[Big Parks]

What was that? I don't. They was trying some modern throwback shit.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what the hell.

[Big Parks]

That looked really, really terrible.

[Joe Budden]

Really, really bad.

[Big Parks]

It looked terrible. Cowboys can't stop a runny nose, them niggas.

[Corey]

Neither could the Dolphins until they played.

[Joe Budden]

Thank God for y', all, too. Cause I fucking sat. I sat Herbert for Bo Nix, and Herbert went off. So Bo Nix, betterhead went off against them fucking Cowboys.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, and he did.

[Joe Budden]

And he did.

[Big Parks]

Yo, Jimmy Nicks could go off against the motherfucking Cowboys, but we got the most expensive look at defense. Shouldn't be playing like this anyway.

[Joe Budden]

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[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yankee fan, you shouldn't say anything.

[Big Parks]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

How could that possibly be true? See, this is why I don't talk. Sports report with Mark. Repeat that sentence this season.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You shouldn't be saying anything. I don't mean in life.

[Joe Budden]

There will never be a baseball world where a Yankee fan can't talk. That's just not ever going to be true.

[Big Parks]

Why might that be?

[Joe Budden]

Because we have the most world championship.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but that's why they started during the Civil War. Like that don't count.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's the other reason. And we're one of the original members.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, no, that's a fact. That's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

But. But we said this the other day and we say it again. Ohtani looks like the best. The best thing that you might be seeing with your eyes.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I was gonna put him on a. On the picks.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, put them. Hey, if you're unsure about one of the pics, insert Ohtani or Jonathan Taylor.

[Big Parks]

Just take a five pick.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he and women Yama to me are like the new generation cheat codes. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Him and Web and Yana for sure.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, they're both cheat codes and in different ways. But they both do this thing where they just bring in skill sets that aren't usually combined in one athlete. But when it comes to Ohtani, I.

[Joe Budden]

Mean he's four for four the other night.

[Big Parks]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And striking everybody out on base.

[Joe Budden]

What Was it five times? Four times. Times, yeah. Tied up a tide of record.

[Big Parks]

He went three for three, then four for four.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Well this is game three.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This game.

[Joe Budden]

This was game three of the World Series. So yes, in the last series he went three for three. Now he's four. Four on base. Four times three home runs. Four home runs. Something stupid. Whatever he did Superman, he pitched the next night. Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Like he pitched the next night.

[Big Parks]

So what you do?

[Joe Budden]

What can you do?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And any given night you got him in the lineup as a dh. Who in a pinch in the World Series you got another arm.

[Joe Budden]

And if I'm the rest of the league, I do have an issue with that. Some teams have already started complaining, but I'm on their side. Your pitching playoff roster for all teams should be capped at whatever the number is. For you to be able to insert Otani as a pitcher who's also a dh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're cheating. You're to trying cheating. I mean you're cheating. It's not cheating, cuz. Cuz in theory, what the Dodgers gonna say is y' all dhs can pitch too well.

[Joe Budden]

They. Well now it opens the conversation for them to change the rule or bring on the rest of the Ohtanis. I know there's a new Japanese kid that the Yankees are due to be bidding on this summer. I know they wish they bid more on Otani. So right. That market is coming it change. It opens the conversation to change the rule. But until the meantime.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I think it's just what they doing wrong.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it's Monopoly, nigga.

[Joe Budden]

The rule states your man can't get on base four times, hit four home run, three home runs and then pitch the next night. Sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The legal catch up. It's just like the tush push in football. It's just like there's things that people the legal catch up eventually. But it's going to be a long time before there's even five players in the league. Forget Ohtani. He's otherworldly. But even who can word.

[Joe Budden]

Let's say Freddie Freeman's name again for a second.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you get somebody could bet 2880 and be a reasonable bullpen guy, a decent guy you're talking about. I mean that would be extraordinary. Mr. Frank.

[Joe Budden]

I woke up the other day at 2am and the game was still on 18 innings. 18 innings. So now I'm into it. 2am is my little wake up. Go take a time. Anyway, so now I'm into it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm into it. Too. I don't want either team to win because I hate them both. But like, I desperately, desperately, desperately want, wanted to see a good, competitive series. And it was.

[Joe Budden]

Was. And it is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it is.

[Joe Budden]

This could go seven. The Blue Jays. Blue Jays showed up, yo. I ain't going to lie. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And we, you and I talk about the Blue Jays in the Yankees and.

[Joe Budden]

We owe them in the po.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We owe, we owe the Blue Jays.

[Joe Budden]

In the PO Couldn't have been more wrong.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They, they, they, they, they were trending down at the end of the regular season, which is why I felt that way. But they got, they got right.

[Joe Budden]

They got right to it. They got right to it.

[Big Parks]

Can y' all like spectate at a baseball game that goes 18 innings?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a no.

[Corey]

I'm leaving. If they stop serving alcohol after the seventh inning, they better open them back up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So during the seventh inning stretch, in most baseball games, they shut down as.

[Joe Budden]

Long as the glizzies is coming out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You heard he can eat them glizzies all night.

[Joe Budden]

Unborn double back.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They usually get rid of the alcohol seventh inning stretch because you know, you want people to get home by the ninth inning safely. They win 18 innings, yeah, they should reopen. But you don't know when the game's gonna keep going, you know what I mean? So they had to keep it shut down. But that's a drag to sit there for another 11 innings over.

[Joe Budden]

Call Uber.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you sobering cold.

[Corey]

Yeah, well, it's la. It's cold.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Three in the morning or midnight.

[Corey]

I wonder if you can smoke there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What you say?

[Corey]

I wonder if you can smoke there.

[Joe Budden]

When, when have smokers ever cared about whether you is lighting up?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

Cigars, blunts, wet cigarettes is lighting. Hey, from michalob to methadone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[Joe Budden]

That sound like a party. It's a party. It's a party.

[Corey]

I don't want to go to the Michelob party.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Michelob and methadone, we in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, on the sports front, I don't got along to talk shit, but I'm gonna do it now. Cause I ain't got but another week or so.

[Joe Budden]

Get in your bag, man.

[Corey]

The Sixers.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

First of all, I was in Philly for the Sixers home opener, okay? I did some interviews with the team, I did some other stuff and I was able to check out the whole game.

[Joe Budden]

Game.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We look pretty good. Embiid doesn't look fully healthy on that, on that left knee. But Our rookie VJ Edgecomb killing.

[Joe Budden]

He's. He's.

[Corey]

He's.

[Joe Budden]

He's different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He looks ready to play right now. He looks NBA mature. And my Sixers are undefeated in first place. Got the best record in the NBA right now.

[Big Parks]

How many games, y'?

[Corey]

All?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Games 3, 3 and 0.

[Joe Budden]

VJ Edgecombe is the real deal. So I'm not even gonna step on what you're doing. VJ Edgecom is indeed the real deal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We might have dodged the bullet with the drag.

[Joe Budden]

I think him and Maxi. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

In that backcourt, that's gonna be a special back trade.

[Joe Budden]

Embiid. Well, the problem is Draedy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The problem is with the injury and him doing limited minutes, it's harder to get anything back. And he has a max deal and he's got another four years.

[Joe Budden]

All of that. All of that's awesome. What was your black quarterback take, huh?

[Corey]

That was the craziest shit I've heard my entire life.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I knew I had a bad black quarterback take when I told it to my brother in private prison. And he said, after we got off the phone, the CEO walked up to him, the country pencil tucky racist walked up to him, said, I like that guy you were talking to. He's thinking straight. That's the first thing that made me think about it differently. So.

[Big Parks]

Well, tell the tape. What was your take?

[Joe Budden]

I can't even believe he's gonna say it publicly.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not afraid of y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You that dude. This is what I said. First of all, I'm a work in progress.

[Big Parks]

That's right.

[Joe Budden]

God got you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm working through it.

[Joe Budden]

Preface.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Also. Also, I don't watch the NFL anymore, so.

[Big Parks]

All right, so say the take, though.

[Joe Budden]

What's the take, though?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, the take. I gotta say that ahead of time because y' all getting me, right? But at the point where I stopped watching the NFL.

[Joe Budden]

Listen up, native land, when did you stop?

[Corey]

What year was it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because when Kaepernick left, just let him. What the fuck? I stopped watching the NFL when Cap left, and at that point, I still was not comfortable with a black quarterback at the helm.

[Big Parks]

That's the same. That's not the take, though. Say the take, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I still feel a lot more comfortable. Comfortable with an immobile white man running things. Now, I'm not saying that's right.

[Joe Budden]

It's wrong. This is your brother.

[Big Parks]

But I'm just telling you one place, your faith.

[Joe Budden]

This is who.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Joe Budden]

This is who you put in the nation.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I used to be a white quarterback. Please. Because growing up the best quarterbacks were white. I knew the reason why.

[Big Parks]

That's not true either, Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Growing up.

[Joe Budden]

Up.

[Big Parks]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who were the five best quarterbacks growing up?

[Big Parks]

They made the good black quarterbacks play cornerback.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with you.

[Big Parks]

Was having 7,000 yards in high school when they make them play receiver.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Deep racial undertones and overtones.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, Mr. Sociologist. I. Cunningham.

[Big Parks]

Cunningham. War monsters.

[Joe Budden]

And your team won a Super bowl last year with a black quarterback. It's coming from you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Now, in the modern era, I'm winning, but I'm saying growing up, I grew up in an era where the best quarterbacks were white. And y' all could pretend they weren't, but they were.

[Joe Budden]

No, no.

[Big Parks]

Based on racism.

[Joe Budden]

We're saying something different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What you saying?

[Joe Budden]

We're saying that based 40 years ago, football as a whole viewed black quarterbacks. You weren't allowed to see anything different.

[Big Parks]

No, they said that we didn't have the ability to the brains quickly.

[Joe Budden]

So for you, brains is what? Actually black brother who just left Showtime at the Apollo when Fat Joe and them was doing some up there. I don't know what you be doing outside. He was up there at the Muslim meeting with Fat Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. So for you to have this take, as someone who built the sphinx.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, let the have his take.

[Corey]

Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but again, I'm confessing this take as a bad take. I'm not saying it's the worst take ever heard. I'm saying that it's something I had the whole. I had to let go when you.

[Joe Budden]

Said it earlier, Ice. And I thought that you still trusted the white quarterbacks more than the way.

[Big Parks]

He said it earlier. Ain't the way he said it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just letting him run.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, I'm telling you, that's why we can't say what he said. There's still a part of me. Let me know. I said I have to unlearn that. So when you like, oh, so and so is the best quarterback. So I'm like, oh, oh, the darkies are doing. They're doing some football now. I didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

Whoa, that's your name. That's your man Mark.

[Big Parks]

This is the only black man you said. It's a part of you that has to unlearn.

[Joe Budden]

What you gonna say now?

[Big Parks]

That the white man is better at leading the niggas?

[Joe Budden]

What are you talking about?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, that's the thing that I have to unlearn. Modern day slavery. I don't actually think that white Men are better at leading. But I'm saying that's the logic that gets you there. And that's the thing that I have to unlearn. And a whole bunch of people have to unlearn that. The white lawyer, the white doctor, the.

[Big Parks]

White this age, better.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't the first motherfucker to say this truth.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just saying.

[Big Parks]

I'm talking about you, nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just admitting. You know what I'm saying? And I. And in fact, I was part of this documentary on black quarterbacks that we talked about this. I get all the reasons why black people aren't allowed to be quarterback. I get all the racist reasons why they say they shouldn't be. I'm with you.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, you what? You understand?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I get all of it. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I learned that a little better. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me.

[Joe Budden]

Let me be clear.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So you good, bro. Let me be clear. Let me be clear.

[Joe Budden]

You take taking this shit to the max.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me be clear so that I'm not misstating or being misrepresented. What I'm saying is I understand that there's a history of thinking that black people weren't smart enough to be quarterbacks and making them after college move to the skill positions because they think they didn't have the intellect to lead a team or remember the plays or do all these things.

[Joe Budden]

And today, in 2025, you haven't all the way proved that wrong.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying I know in practice, just like in practice, I know anybody could be a doctor or anybody could be a lawyer, right? I've worked through that. No, no, I'm saying that's not my hang up. But I know some people can know that intellectually and still prefer a white whatever, right? It's that little bit of white supremacy we hold on to. I'm saying with the quarterback, that's some shit I had to work through. And because I don't watch football anymore, I'm still surprised. And you'd be like, oh, Lamar Jackson's the beast. Or so and so's a beast.

[Corey]

I'm like, oh, there's a little guy called Patrick Mahomes. Pretty good at football.

[Joe Budden]

Black's doing better over there now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't watched the NFL game in other than last year's Super Bowl. Not years.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So I. I can't name 10 NFL players. So I'm trying to tell you, all.

[Joe Budden]

Right, well, you are too important to black people, and this broadcast is too big for us to pretend like you don't Yeah, I mean, love you. So we still shout out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I support you. I'm just saying that's my. That's my little hang up that I still gotta watch.

[Joe Budden]

All right, we'll take it to Theo Vaughn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And no, mind you, they made me bring this up, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't. I didn't bring this town. Oh, look at him.

[Joe Budden]

Look at him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nice.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Take a look at your little choir boy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They trying to lure me out.

[Big Parks]

He got out of it. He got out of it. He did say some off, Mike.

[Joe Budden]

He did. He did. But it's okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything I said, everything I said before. I love y' all, too.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, so first of all, we want to say rest in peace to nick mango.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

41 years old. God damn. My heart goes out to his family, friends, fans, jets fans. Nick Mango was, you know, Rex Ryan cried on tv.

[Big Parks]

Rex couldn't keep it together.

[Joe Budden]

Nick Mango was the heart of and the spirit of, like, the jets, like, tough Jets. Like, God damn it. So again, his family, friends, fans, please. Our heart goes out to each and every one of y'. All. Really sad news the other day learned that Nick Mango passed. And then Mickey fax tweeted, rest in peace, Poster Boy.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And then I saw those. Those messages start to pour in. So I want to say rest in peace to Poster Boy, as. As well. We love you. We miss you. I was there for the 106 run. I was there for you starting the bidding war. Wasn't he the first one amongst the labels? He's the first one to hook it about. I don't know if he was before.

[Big Parks]

I think he was the first one to get seven, Jen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he's the first one to get retired.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, he was the first one.

[Joe Budden]

He was the first one to be retired. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Shout out to Soulja Boy. A real good dude if you ever met soldier boy.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, please.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, they do.

[Joe Budden]

I be fucking names. I ain't gonna lie. That's one of my favorite parts of getting older, too. Just fucking names up. Shout out to Poster Boy. Really good dude. If you ever had the pleasure of meeting him. My heart goes out to his family, friends and fans. Also, while we're here just sending out our thoughts and prayers, I am not mature enough to say that. That we're praying for all of the people affected by Hurricane Melissa without my audience thinking that I'm doing something different. So I'm going to toss it to my good, mature brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Big Parks]

You think the doctor made him mature.

[Corey]

After that whole quarterback thing, I'm the one that's mature. Guys.

[Joe Budden]

I think Mark is more mature than me. Like, if he say something, the fans will receive it differently than me saying it. That's probably if I sit here and say my whole. This morning at 6am I wrote a whole Hurricane Melissa. And when I read it back, I said, nope, Right? You're like, nah, nah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What were you saying? Like, I'm sorry to all the victims of Melissa. I'm sorry. Tore through.

[Joe Budden]

Yep. Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So Hurricane Melissa.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, the hurricane.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hurricane Melissa.

[Joe Budden]

See, I'm not with him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, man, my father's out there. Y' all niggas playing like that? No, no, no. I'm not making sure y' all doing.

[Joe Budden]

And you came to work.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Triple entendre. Shit, nigga, watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

Why are you still here? Come. Yeah, you ain't have to come to work. Yo, why you.

[Big Parks]

Ain't you a multi millionaire?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, listen, my father. My father. My father's a millionaire.

[Joe Budden]

That's number one. Or a millionaire. I mean, an American growing at multi world.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My father's an American.

[Joe Budden]

Multi in pesos. You a peso.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Peso.

[Joe Budden]

N. No, I. I hear him. Of course.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think.

[Joe Budden]

Let this go. A peso.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

N. Hey, yo, you go to our country of Jamaica, nigga, to get your shit off. Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch your mouth. Playing around. There's a lot of. Gentlemen, there's a serious issue at play here. I got this. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there that's losing their lives.

[Joe Budden]

I said to our mature.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A lot of things that's going on and we need to be respectful. My pops is out there. Ice Pops is out there.

[Big Parks]

My pops is out there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop playing around. Let the audience hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, wait.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I apologize. Flip, get out your FBA bag, nigga, and be respectful for niggas turn up on you here. Yeah, Mark my fault, you know. So for those that don't know, there's now a Category 5 hurricane that has just touched down on Jamaica. It's also affecting Cuba Espanola. It's really devastating the Caribbean. Its name is Hurricane Melissa, bro.

[Big Parks]

They're saying that Jamaica won't be recognizable.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Jamaica may not be recognizable.

[Big Parks]

Actually, once it passes through. They said they won't get power cut on in many areas for months and months and months.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, my pops.

[Big Parks]

I was talking to my. Well, actually I'm talking to him now, but he said they told him they can expect to be without power for anywhere from one to two months. Like, he's sending me videos of how it looks. The storm has literally just touched down where he is in the last 10 minutes. They said they're expecting 150 mile per hour wind. He had tried to get a flight out to Mexico for yesterday morning, but the night before last they closed the airport.

[Joe Budden]

So.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, no, the hurricane is. This is a big deal. This may be one of the biggest natural disasters to touch the Caribbean.

[Joe Budden]

And you want to pray for the people that are working in Turks and some of the other Caribbean islands.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Because those people have family and friends and loved ones. Those people come from these places that we're talking about. You want to pray for all parties affected by this. The news this morning had a chopper in the eye of the storm, like they was watching it. So this is the eye of the storm.

[Big Parks]

We're following the thing. It's horrible.

[Joe Budden]

And it looked absolutely nuts. Nuts. Absolutely nuts.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And the island may not be the same ever again. Just I want to add this one piece because we saw this with Haiti before and Haiti's being affected now, too. Once these countries and islands are devastated like this, a lot of times that becomes the excuse or the pretext for outside people to come in and take. Take over. Right. Just like we saw an earthquake in Haiti when suddenly the Clintons and everybody.

[Corey]

Puerto Rico, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Puerto Rico, same thing.

[Joe Budden]

Great point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, and so we have to not just keep an eye out on the destruction that the hurricane has caused, but the quote, unquote, rebuild may forever underdevelop and drain the country of its sovereignty and its internal resources. So just, we want to send love and prayers out to everybody on all the levels.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I just want to make it clear that when, you know, country. Cause my father, you know, he sends me stuff that he hears about on the podcast. So when I was laughing, I wasn't laughing at anybody that's affected in Jamaica or the Caribbean by the hurricane. Just to make it clear.

[Big Parks]

He's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Straighten that out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he called me about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You already wasn't getting in them Jamaican concerts. No. Yeah, well, that one time. But they end up fixing it. They end up fixing it and making it.

[Joe Budden]

You got in the next one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course I did, but it's not about that. Listen, closed circuit, you know, my prayers I. To everyone over there and stuff like that. I'm texting my father now, actually, trying.

[Joe Budden]

To get contact with him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let us know how, you know, if there any way we can support him. Seriously.

[Joe Budden]

Did you find him?

[Big Parks]

St. Can't Help himself. Can't help himself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Can't talk about my pops.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't say nothing about your dad. Talking about my father. I didn't say nothing about your dad. And I would never. Don't do that. I love you more than that.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. My pops just text me right now. He said based on the movement, it should leave the island around 5pm let's hope for the best. And he says, oh, that's good. Then he says, my power just went out right now. I still have the cellular service, though.

[Joe Budden]

But you better go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Five ain't bad. That's good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but the problem is they were.

[Big Parks]

Saying that was gonna stay there longer. Cause you know, the. To turn and do all of that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Again, praying for everyone affected by this really, really, really catastrophic event that's going on out there. Here I play some outstanding, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Why not Play some.

[Big Parks]

Come the boom.

[Joe Budden]

Play some outstanding or.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why did.

[Joe Budden]

How.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How did they come up with the name of the hurricane? Cuz I. They go in alphabetical order.

[Big Parks]

Alphabetical order.

[Joe Budden]

Got you. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And this is actually the first. Is to my knowledge. The first of your knowledge what, bro?

[Joe Budden]

Sorry. None other song is on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe to my family.

[Joe Budden]

I know, but I'm leading.

[Corey]

Sure.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, just let me lead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't turn it up while I twist.

[Joe Budden]

Look at you. I'm not doing it with you. Hey, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike check. One, two, one, two. If you're just now tuning in. Here you go. Knew they had a slap on their hand. They just let the be ride, boy.

[Corey]

For like 32, right?

[Joe Budden]

Luther was in the kitchen still.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Else to ever love me. You are my shining star, my D. Like my love.

[Big Parks]

There's not a minute out one day or night that I don't love you.

[Joe Budden]

I still remember in the day, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me see, let me see, let me see.

[Joe Budden]

Is there any new music to get to? Anything in music to get to? Oh, wait.

[Big Parks]

You must have known that I feelings deep enough to swim in that's when.

[Joe Budden]

You opened up your heart and you told me to come I just don't want to stop all I love. What else? Rest in peace, Luther, man. All right. Anywhere y' all want to go. I'm down. Pause.

[Big Parks]

Oh, you was asking. New music. I said there are a couple little things that I've. I've peeped over the weekend that dropped Lil Baby. Seems like if he stays on this, I'm willing to say he's back. He has a record out with G herbo. It's his new Single. Try to sit it up in the parks real quick, play a little bit. But it's still. It's old. It's not like he found his old groove. Like his old. I don't say groove, but his old sound.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Joe Budden]

I messed up stuff.

[Corey]

What's the name of the record?

[Big Parks]

Let me pull it back up again. Oh, yeah, talk.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, how you doing? Ish.

[Corey]

Did.

[Joe Budden]

Did you match. Did you honestly talk to me like, yo, did you try to match the light blue and your New balance with the light blue in your New Balance sweatsuit?

[Big Parks]

I was just wearing some clothes, my bro. That's the fit they sent me.

[Joe Budden]

This is why I don't. With him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the deal.

[Joe Budden]

You just wearing some clothes and it all just happen to be light blue. And you just happen to find some New Balance socks to match. That's how you know you old kind.

[Big Parks]

Of socks I got. See the NB right there? Them ain't seen no and Or B, they sitting there lying.

[Joe Budden]

So they lying.

[Big Parks]

You listening to them? Yo, stop.

[Joe Budden]

It better not be no New Balance socks on you. I know that, cuz. I'mma judge you. Judge me then more than I do.

[Big Parks]

All right, you in Marathon smoking I can't eat right I'm a father rapping hustle Nash, I live three lives I'm a young black man so to society I got three strikes I've been trying to change my life for real but it don't seem right Heard the eyes been popping out that club Skill Brody.

[Joe Budden]

Them the green light they can flip.

[Big Parks]

Magic City ass See them, they get.

[Joe Budden]

Script acting like they wouldn't know they.

[Big Parks]

Ain'T I just don't get I try.

[Joe Budden]

To put my foot in your shoes.

[Big Parks]

But it just went to the White House Made a president for my in.

[Joe Budden]

The sister it's kind of crazy that.

[Big Parks]

We beef and I got But I been somewhere counting money up Somebody ain't get a I been thinking about stealing your heart But I'm still iffy and.

[Joe Budden]

We make.

[Big Parks]

Sounds great and I'm even. Even Jerry. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I wasn't. Yeah, I know. I've been.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not.

[Big Parks]

I haven't been a fan of his because I think he don't really ride the beat properly. Pause. He kept up on this one, so it's a really, really dope song.

[Joe Budden]

But that's all we ask is that the plea be as loud as the hate Ain't no plea.

[Big Parks]

Oh, there's no plea?

[Joe Budden]

I'M sorry.

[Big Parks]

There's no plea.

[Joe Budden]

Well, when you. I'm sorry. When somebody says, hey, y' all know me. I've been the main one on this for years, but I gotta give it up. When it's that you don't me, I take it as a plea.

[Big Parks]

No, no, no. When you don't do the thing that I've on you for, then you get props. Then I give props instead of. But if you do the thing. Because I'm not a hater. See, I'm not a hater. If you do something dope, I'm gonna praise that. And if you do something not dope, I'm gonna criticize. Treat you equally and fairly. I'm objective.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but a lot of episodes.

[Big Parks]

No, ain't no a lot of episodes. Nothing.

[Joe Budden]

But hey, long as the plea is.

[Big Parks]

As loud, there's no plea being caught.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, lil baby G herbo the record. Salute, man. The record.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, I wanted to give you a chance to cop a plea or hold yourself accountable for a tape.

[Joe Budden]

That's why Marcus. One of the greatest. You know what? One of them part of the month awards. You deserve at least one one of them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You deserve one Steve Nash.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, there was some footage that was unearthed of you and Antwan.

[Joe Budden]

I was sleepwalking. Yo. Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Having a debate over music. You know, I don't even want to set the stage for it.

[Joe Budden]

Just gonna play it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just gonna play it.

[Joe Budden]

Rihanna reaches more people than kids. No Rihanna.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If I'm starting my label, I take.

[Joe Budden]

And I take you. I go with the salad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

His balls hadn't dropped yet either. Bass in his voice.

[Joe Budden]

Female R B artist. First draft pick.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't say that.

[Joe Budden]

Mouse.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mouse's first draft pick. Kesh.

[Big Parks]

Final answer. Shout out to Jill.

[Joe Budden]

No, I pick Tia.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We're talk.

[Corey]

We're talk.

[Joe Budden]

No, we're talking about female R B.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's your final final answer? Keisha Cole.

[Big Parks]

Hell, I just.

[Joe Budden]

He's entitled to his an opinion. You don't remember when Beyonce the hottest lean hottest first job is she that today? No. However damn want to use your argument against you.

[Big Parks]

I've been cracking this muffin for two years.

[Joe Budden]

Oh.

[Big Parks]

Huh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Consistently producing.

[Big Parks]

You know what she's going to do.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know a thing when they spent all that money at Neo. Came and saved the day with that irreplaceable record.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't know.

[Joe Budden]

What are you talking about?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She had hits before when that record.

[Big Parks]

That girl got seven singles. Six or seven singles off that now.

[Joe Budden]

You trying to tell me y. You trying to tell me that to the left. To the left didn't save that chick's life?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever.

[Joe Budden]

On that particular.

[Big Parks]

Are you wrong?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying whatever. I'm not making excuse for my success.

[Joe Budden]

Sit down. You're wrong.

[Big Parks]

You say what you want. That has a following.

[Joe Budden]

She does. But I'm using.

[Big Parks]

Girl, I'm gonna get you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're saying just to set the table for the audience. In case you didn't get the full context, they were arguing about if they were starting a label, who would be a more who they would start with.

[Big Parks]

As they start in point guard as the female artists of the label.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Both amazing artists. We love them both. Y' all know how much we love Keyshia Cole up here. Y' all know how much we love Rihanna up here. So it's not that. But it was interesting to hear Ish make the case that he would start with Rihanna because effectively she'd be a bigger star.

[Big Parks]

Nah, just have a big old audience. Yeah. I said basically she could transcend more audiences, in my opinion. Then.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, you had a different take. Do you still hold that take?

[Joe Budden]

No. And we've discussed it multiple times since the 2009.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't here.

[Joe Budden]

I know you just started working here four months ago, but we've. We. This clip has been unearthed and unpacked millions of times. I don't apologize for what I'm saying. It's 2009. I'm gonna always err on the side of, like, who can pick up a microphone and do it. Clearly I was wrong. Time has shown that. But I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The community put it up this week, and I was. I found it fascinating. I didn't. I didn't.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, the more beautiful part about all that is not Ish's opinion or mine. It's the fact that somebody found a way to fucking actually get paid off these stupid companies.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Conversations that's interesting.

[Joe Budden]

Like, me and my good brother have been doing this since the beginning of.

[Big Parks]

I ain't got a dime.

[Joe Budden]

No, you. No, you do. I haven't got a no, you do.

[Big Parks]

I have.

[Joe Budden]

No, you do. I ain't got a dime. You think? You think? I think. You keep showing up Tuesdays and Fridays cuz you so friendly. Huh?

[Big Parks]

I get a Rihanna. Keisha. Cold check.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Sure enough. Shout out to Keisha Cole. Shout out, Beyonce. Shout out to every artist mentioned for your name. Yes. For your name to even still mean what it means. All these Years later, longevity and your iconicness. So, please, if I said something stupid back then. My bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When you think about y' all think.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think it's the dumbest.

[Big Parks]

I don't think it was that. There was a lot of asterisks.

[Joe Budden]

Well, Rihanna became Rihanna that people forgot about.

[Big Parks]

So have us here today too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What'd you say When y' all think about y' all debates over the last year, when you look back at all the things you and Ish argued about, has he gotten the better of you? When you look back in retrospect, at.

[Joe Budden]

Some point, I'm sure, yeah. Anything having to do with math, anything where math was involved, then he probably won because he adds faster than me. But anything where it was just a matter of right versus wrong. Yeah. No, no, not at all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's what you say.

[Joe Budden]

And I kissed his. Yeah. Why should. I was texting you. Yeah, say something. Say something. How can he have won any debate if the chick he kept texting I kissed? And I had a girl. I left you. I dubbed your went home to my queen. Hey, mute up. Mute up. Boy, you talking about. You talking about. Say something. Nope. Say something.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you learning. You learning.

[Joe Budden]

Move out of there. Right? Yeah. What? And she ain't tell you till I was done with her. Oh, my God. You thought we was just friends. Ham cup. Yeah, I was ham. I'm the inventor of ham. I know. Yeah, you.

[Big Parks]

Bam.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. Say something. Say something. I kiss her again. If I break up a my baby. What else? What else needs our attention? What else needs our attention? Doesn't need our attention.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We got a big story. We got a. Oh, sorry.

[Joe Budden]

Please.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh.

[Big Parks]

We.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I'm. I'm one of the first to say that we should be done with these folded remixes. Like we got the folded Kaylani pack. Damn. Oh.

[Corey]

Freak ass phone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now I see why you sit here.

[Joe Budden]

Flip. Can you please stop looking at my phone?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That on the open.

[Joe Budden]

We got. We got the Kani folded.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got folded up.

[Joe Budden]

Excuse me. Excuse. And you touching me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't give a.

[Joe Budden]

You not comfortable.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Get away.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not comfortable. You touching on me dead ass.

[Corey]

Nothing worse than when you're in public and you pull up the porn on the phone.

[Joe Budden]

Got close that tab.

[Big Parks]

Because Twitter.

[Joe Budden]

Well, first of all, whoever's in charge of creating the algorithms, it's a shame that they're pushing this toxicity to our young.

[Corey]

No one wants to see this.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to see.

[Big Parks]

I don't get any of that to my Al.

[Joe Budden]

I said our Young men. You're not young or black.

[Big Parks]

What am I?

[Joe Budden]

Old and pale? You know, during the winter months. You get a little vacation during them winter months. Yeah. Plies did a Folded remix.

[Big Parks]

Oh, let's go.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Oh, let's go. Plies don't miss on the R and B joints. Plies don't miss on another. I want to get my laughs out first.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, we can wrap these Folded remixes up, Big dog, but I can't hate on it, cuz. He rapped, and I think that more people should do that. So I'll go ahead and play it.

[Big Parks]

I hope he not in the bat studio again.

[Joe Budden]

Parks don't ever want my phone to sound like his. You. Thanks. When you done, send this remix to me. Cool. Yo, also, Kehlani Folded should win every Grammy that is nominated for. Let me jump on that bandwagon. Let me jump on that bandwagon early. All right, here we go. Let's hear it. That puts the first thing on a nigga. My baby girl, he the man. Yet women need more than a nigga just fucking on him. I had to learn that my driver license said I was a man, but in real life, I was still a boy. In my mind, I was justified. But in real life, I was still a whore. You were looking for a soulmate.

[Big Parks]

I was looking for a good time.

[Corey]

You were looking.

[Joe Budden]

Fuck a pain ship. I was fucking up the whole time. Even though he still punished me for all the things that I did to.

[Big Parks]

You all the time, the lies that.

[Joe Budden]

I told to you and all the things that I took you through. You just made me a better man. Real woman. You can't buy love that's some I had to understand. I fumbled you and I'm admitting this. I did you wrong.

[Big Parks]

I can't defend this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was so up so you should.

[Big Parks]

Have made me fold my own.

[Joe Budden]

He bought that?

[Corey]

Yeah, he caught that, huh?

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Yeah, I love that.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying. I can't. I can't say nothing bad about him because I really enjoyed it.

[Big Parks]

No, he killed Smoke that. He killed that.

[Joe Budden]

I want people to pack up these Folded remixes. Unless your name is Keisha Cole, Jasmine Sullivan, or Tamiya.

[Big Parks]

Yo, he.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not mad at Plies. I'm not mad at Plies.

[Big Parks]

Keep that going. I like when it happened. I'll pick the best ones I like. Give me options. And that CB Kid is off tour.

[Joe Budden]

Your cousin, you mean?

[Big Parks]

So he might. He might. He might jump on that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Identifies Kid this.

[Big Parks]

He might jump on that and go.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely. CB Is on that list for me. CB Is on that list for me.

[Big Parks]

I still got.

[Joe Budden]

And if he does, he want to hear us. All right, I'm top.

[Big Parks]

I know. I can't say nothing. I know.

[Joe Budden]

I can't say nothing. I can't say nothing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope.

[Big Parks]

I know. Nope. I know.

[Joe Budden]

I know.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe Budden]

I would listen to the Usher version, too. Anywho, Shout out to Plies, man. I can't. I cannot. I can't clown you. I can't clown you. Anytime in my career, I wanted to clown plies. I couldn't. You can't clown plies?

[Big Parks]

How could you?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you can't really.

[Big Parks]

You can't. You know what happens. He's so comedic in his.

[Joe Budden]

When he was putting out the girl. Well, well, first was a T Pain joint, whatever that was, that went. You couldn't say nothing.

[Big Parks]

Went immediately.

[Joe Budden]

Then started the other chief angel and then just went.

[Big Parks]

And then jumped on all the Khaled records.

[Joe Budden]

Then he killed the Khaled records and.

[Big Parks]

Killed all of my favorites.

[Joe Budden]

And he killed all the features. Then he had a run where he was doing freestyles. He killed all of those. Then he left music. Seemed like he went to the content creator, Internet personality game. He smoked that one, too.

[Big Parks]

As a plus music fan, I hated that.

[Joe Budden]

Then he became. He smoked it, though.

[Big Parks]

I know he did.

[Joe Budden]

Then he became a relationship counselor. Smoked that Plies. Has never. Politics is like their version of Ray J. He's never not smoked nothing. And he's involved in more than we would like him to be involved with.

[Big Parks]

That could kill.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Child applies, man.

[Big Parks]

He did that Beyonce drunken love record.

[Joe Budden]

Who. Who in here, Eskimo brothers replies, to your knowledge?

[Corey]

Not to my knowledge.

[Joe Budden]

Now everybody's quiet. We can move on, yo. Yeah, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. About it.

[Big Parks]

You asking what brother's applies?

[Joe Budden]

Well, I wouldn't know, so why would we know, Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, we can move on. We can move on. Everybody want to be quiet now.

[Joe Budden]

You get what I'm saying? Go ahead. I'm just saying some of you got weirdo Eskimo brothers. And I hear Jan's voice, so I ain't gonna get into my favorite. One of my favorite topic, Yalls, Eskimo brothers. But I think Vlad's gotta, gotta be Eskimo brothers. Somebody in here.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, nigga, you've been rapping for 20 years.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't be fooled. If it's me. Me. I know if it's me, it's probably you. No, it ain't. If it's me. It's probably you. King, King, King, go behind. You know, I mean, if it's me, it's you, you. I mean, King, King, King, back door. You know, I mean, King hit him nine months after you did y'. All.

[Big Parks]

Y' all a package deal.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no. It circled back after I was done with him. All right, come on, let's move on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So we got. We got an interesting story coming out of 10 Texas.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, this one really saddens me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A correctional officer, Amos Nyanwe has recently been booked on misdemeanor charges of contraband. He smuggled contraband into a prison.

[Big Parks]

Niggas do that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. This particular contraband was chicken wings.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chicken wings. Yes. He was smuggling Wingstop into the prison.

[Joe Budden]

Prison.

[Big Parks]

He boofed the chicken wings.

[Corey]

That's what. But that's where my.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think the correction officer has the booth.

[Joe Budden]

Let him cook.

[Corey]

Let him cook.

[Joe Budden]

Double entendre.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you. I think you can just walk in with a bag. They're not on you like that.

[Joe Budden]

What flavors?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mango habanero is one of the flavors.

[Joe Budden]

That's a good one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely don't want a boof Mango habanero.

[Corey]

Although it kind of goes the same.

[Joe Budden]

Way in and out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Fair enough.

[Joe Budden]

A boof crack, but not mango wings.

[Corey]

Crack ain't spicy.

[Joe Budden]

Crack is not spicy. Right. Crack a spice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So apparently he was. He was smuggling chicken wings into the prison and upcharging them a decent amount to the incarcerated people. One day, one of the. One of the inmates, I guess, told another co, found out, got mad and told and booked the whole operation. Then they went through the surveillance cameras.

[Big Parks]

And found out, tried to. I did in on this, and he ain't want to cut him in. So now I got ruined your whole operation.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know if that part's true, but it could be. I just want be clear. I'm not reporting that part as fact, but. Yeah. So he's in there.

[Joe Budden]

Call me what you want. I think this is a brilliant idea.

[Big Parks]

Get your miserable ass out of here. My.

[Joe Budden]

I think this is genius.

[Big Parks]

Of course. Yeah. I told you my man and him was away at military school. They was. Come on, man.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When y' all were younger.

[Big Parks]

No, as adults, I wasn't. My man and them went to a military high school to hoop when they were younger. Yeah, I got it and said that the McDonald's was like two miles away. Will walk to McDonald's and come back and sell nuggets for 20 and 30 because all the Kids there was rich. I'm not mad at that at all. You talking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I love.

[Joe Budden]

I love this. I absolutely think this is great. I'm hating on them for stopping it. Let these niggas call some loved ones and get their wing money.

[Big Parks]

Lost their job over some Wingstop, though. You're pinching all the.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Big Parks]

I love a hating ass.

[Joe Budden]

Let me order some wings.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, no, I'm eating healthy. No, never mind. Well, yo, well done.

[Joe Budden]

We'll get back to that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So what he would do, by the way, is he would order the wings, act like it's his lunch. He would eat a few of them, wrap them in a paper towel, and then slip them to the inmate. And then the inmate would cash app him some bread. That's exactly.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cash app some.

[Big Parks]

There you go. How much was it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've heard different numbers that people are speculating, but we definitely know a Wingstop order. The order he got cost $42. So if he sent him 50, he wasn't charging for the whole thing. It probably was three or four wings, because usually the upcharge is pretty high. It's just like jail cigarettes, you know what I mean? He probably was charging $10 a wing. Five to ten dollars a wing.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, sheesh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that hopefully. Hopefully it was sizable wings, you know what I mean?

[Big Parks]

Well, Wingstop don't use the little baby wings.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they got drums, too.

[Big Parks]

Hey, yo, do I want no damn drums?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, we do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Drums are the best thing. Drums are the best part. Nobody ate drums.

[Big Parks]

Like a fucking drum Flash.

[Corey]

Nah, drums are the better flash.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Drums are better than the flash.

[Joe Budden]

Flash.

[Big Parks]

I like flats.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll eat flats.

[Joe Budden]

Order in the court. Order in the court. I didn't think there would be two of y' all saying this blasphemous, but now we gotta have the conversation. That's Mark and Parks. That are on the side of drums.

[Big Parks]

I prefer a drum.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I prefer a drone over a flat.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but you. I can come up with a reason why that is.

[Corey]

It's Dwight. I know you, Dwight.

[Joe Budden]

Explain yourself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna pause this first.

[Big Parks]

He don't like black quarterbacks.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Parks]

Got it.

[Corey]

I do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's Lamar Jackson's my guy.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. I'm not mad at drums, but, yeah, when Wingstop asked me if I want all flats, I pay a little $2. I covered it 219.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You pay more to get less.

[Joe Budden]

I pay more to get what I want.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I like drums.

[Big Parks]

I like both.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you. Thank you. So you on our side.

[Joe Budden]

You Prefer drums over flats. Thank you.

[Big Parks]

But wait.

[Joe Budden]

I like both too.

[Big Parks]

I like both.

[Joe Budden]

That's not what we saying.

[Corey]

But my preference is drums.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chinese flu. Yeah, if I'd eat. I mean, the truth is, they both.

[Joe Budden]

You'll never pick all flats.

[Big Parks]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

In parks, you'll never pick all flats.

[Corey]

I don't know if I would want all drums either, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't want all drums. But if I had to choose all drums or all flats.

[Corey]

I'm taking all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm taking all drums.

[Big Parks]

No question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's more meat in your mouth, man. The little joints, right?

[Big Parks]

Flats, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know what flats is. I'm talking about the cuz a drums. I don't like the. I mean, the actual wing is really the drum and the flat. That's the real hustle.

[Joe Budden]

That's the real hustle.

[Big Parks]

I don't know how nobody really understood that. They are taking one wing, chopping that bitch in half and selling and got.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Us fighting over it. That's how the white man does, my boy.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

That's what he does.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, they got us.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Big Parks]

They won.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yo, they won.

[Big Parks]

They won.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But seriously, the drum has more meat.

[Joe Budden]

All right, all right. Flat has more bone balls. Unpause.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I went slay nasty, bro.

[Corey]

The drum gets crispier. I feel like too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. The sauce gets in it more. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Y' all know how to eat a flat?

[Joe Budden]

Man, that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How do you. No, no. How do you eat a flat ice?

[Big Parks]

What's the proper way? Pull the bone out you dump, dip it and eat it.

[Joe Budden]

Pull the bone. Oh, yeah. I saw that tik tok that just taught us how to eat them. That whole other. That ain't how we grew up eating them. We was our fingers up. You know what we was doing.

[Big Parks]

I know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's sucking, right? He was sucking that bone. I'm trying to set you up.

[Big Parks]

You look like one of them gristle.

[Joe Budden]

Catch me.

[Corey]

So the appropriate way is to take the whole thing.

[Joe Budden]

Drums, you do. Talk, argue, anything.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to everybody incarcerated, though. Keep.

[Joe Budden]

Keep eating.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Keep getting whatever you can the best way you can.

[Corey]

Unless they did that.

[Joe Budden]

I bought these down here because I've got these on like an Instagram ad or some shit. But it's. First of all, this is about to be funny. Y' all know I've been looking for the little beret hats. Where's this shit at? This should say. Don't laugh at me neither. Cause I'm bought.

[Big Parks]

You bought it.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going back to school. You bought it because it's the fit me. But it says one SFM When I tell y'. All. It took me at least seven hours to figure out what that meant.

[Big Parks]

Size fits most, stupid.

[Corey]

You're not most.

[Joe Budden]

No, I am not.

[Corey]

You lying?

[Joe Budden]

I'm not most. It's noggin. Hell, no. I'm an XL double X on the ahead. Unpause.

[Big Parks]

Yo, try to put it on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Unpause. Try to put it on.

[Corey]

I'm trying to see the. I'm trying to see the artsy hoodlum look you're going for with the black hoodie and the red you.

[Joe Budden]

Remind me to tell y' all a funny story that has something to do with Unpause that I don't know if I could publicly show year. But it's going to be just as funny buying this.

[Big Parks]

Why are you buying berets?

[Joe Budden]

I want a beret. What are you talking about? I don't want a beret. What do you mean, why am I buying berets? I want a bre. Now. This don't fit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Bust ak cr.

[Big Parks]

Hey, fam, you look like the gayest painter on the planet, but that's how you look.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Call me.

[Big Parks]

The red one. You want to see something funny?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, see, this is another how it's supposed to be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

14 keys.

[Big Parks]

Now I got a headache. I say he want try one.

[Corey]

Yeah, give him the red one.

[Big Parks]

He want try the red joint on.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You brought these?

[Joe Budden]

Here, we got.

[Corey]

We got pole right here to clean up the mistake.

[Big Parks]

That is hilarious.

[Joe Budden]

My.

[Big Parks]

I like doing this.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, good.

[Joe Budden]

I can't fit this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I about to say you can't return it.

[Joe Budden]

Do it for funnies. Do it for engagement. Bigger than his pa. That will look like. Hey, un pause. Look at ice head. Yo, Ice really do look like a penis.

[Big Parks]

What?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like a Jewish.

[Joe Budden]

Why you think it looked the worst? Put it back on.

[Big Parks]

I'm about to pass out.

[Joe Budden]

Let me see it. I don't think it looked the worst.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It. It didn't look like it didn't fit. It actually fit. It actually fit like you remember.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's where Ice look is headed.

[Big Parks]

He can't slant it like a baker. I can't blink.

[Joe Budden]

Look like a chef.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you can't do that.

[Joe Budden]

Holy. What else needs our attention or doesn't need our attention? I'm glad we just having a good time today. This is a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Let me see here. Do y' all want to talk? Oh, shit. I. Mark was talking about that story, which I was just as interested in, but I thought you Were going to the ice agents that invaded the strip club in Dallas and arrested 15 dancers.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's. Yeah, I figured y' all beat.

[Big Parks]

It's over for you in New York. Everybody wanted to go be Trump supporters, right? Yeah. Trump won. You said you win the strip club. They had the Trump signs up. Okay, we gonna see when Esmeralda getting her ass out of there.

[Joe Budden]

They sent ice. Them chicks went in there. They went in the back, put their clothes on and got their little alo overnight work bag and got the out of dodge. Boy. Now I was feeling bad because who wants to be at work and have ice agents running there and tell you that you can't shake some ass and get some money?

[Corey]

More importantly, who wants to go to the MAGA strip club?

[Joe Budden]

I want to laugh at you, but these two and Amani will go in a MAGA strip club.

[Big Parks]

Who these two?

[Joe Budden]

You is and Amani will go to that Sapphire.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Joe Budden]

Y. Y' all will go to Larry's Hustle club. Put that on 50th.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hustler.

[Joe Budden]

Hustler Larry Flint. Boy, you just came from Exotica. You wouldn't go to hustle club.

[Corey]

We're not. We're going to get into Monty.

[Joe Budden]

Been in that little Larry Flint hustle club.

[Big Parks]

Never been in there.

[Joe Budden]

You never been in there. I've never been. A couple of your worked in there. I did go to the cuz your are my nine months after I keep saying it.

[Big Parks]

Which means. Which means they was your first.

[Joe Budden]

So you met them in there spending. I did go to the other one.

[Corey]

What's the other white strip club? That's right. There's another one that was over there. Is it? Damn, Flash, you're right.

[Joe Budden]

You're right.

[Corey]

I can't remember what that is.

[Joe Budden]

There's another one that was over there.

[Corey]

I went to a white strip club once for a bachelor party.

[Joe Budden]

And the one right there that was on 60th and whatever that stayed open for mad late. So they the used to be bringing over there. Is that Sapphire?

[Big Parks]

Sapphire on like 60 something?

[Corey]

It wasn't Sapphire. It was something else. I can't remember.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But anyway.

[Joe Budden]

But yet then I remembered how the New York strip clubs. Well, some people in the New York strip clubs treated me when I said that they should hire black people. And then I remember what some of y' all did when Trump was running the first time. I let it slide. Then he ran again and y' all.

[Big Parks]

Really showing y' all ass.

[Joe Budden]

And now they saying that he owns bitcoin. They saying all types of shit. They Saying all types of shit on Trump. But, yeah, I was really disappointed to see ICE agents run in strip clubs. Like, is anywhere safe? Is anywhere safe? Is all I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And to be clear, they're not just taking your favorite dancers. They're also shutting down the clubs now. Cause they're trying to lock the club owners up or shut them down for harboring illegal people. For illegal, you know, undocumented people, as they say. Illegal aliens.

[Joe Budden]

Well, they can't take. That's why they can't take my favorite dancers. I'm harboring them. We. We in agreement here. Spend it on me. They can't take my favorite dancers. My favorite dancers is working before work and after work. Let me. Shut up.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, you better chill out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, I'm done.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but just know your favorite clubs around the country might get shut down, too. Not just your favorite dancers.

[Joe Budden]

That's right up in the MAGA spots. We go no to the.

[Big Parks]

Gonna have them titty bars gonna have the same they was doing during COVID Locked door.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

All black windows with the.

[Joe Budden]

With the double. Man, that's just some more nut. Texas, too. There's some ICE agents running them spots over here. I ain't gonna say nothing, man. I'm outside too much.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But if you do it in Texas, they do it in Florida, which means your Miami strip club's gonna get shut down. And that means a lot to a whole lot of people.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, the Miami strip clubs is fucking filled with New York bitches.

[Big Parks]

$40.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, thoughts and prayers goes out to anyone that's trying to earn a living, and they're being interrupted by these fucking pieces of shit like I'm not with it. So let me put the jokes aside to say I'm not with it. And it's. That looks and feels nuts. And my heart goes out to y'. All. Nobody should have to go through that. That's important to me. The topic may be funny, but it's not really funny. Speaking on the government being on bullshit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all remember the story where the man lost his home in Brooklyn over the $5,000 unpaid water bill?

[Joe Budden]

It was so easy. I remember that.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now you know, of course, it came.

[Joe Budden]

Out in the news that he officially lost a home. But not only that, there are a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thousand homes in Brooklyn that are going through the same thing where they put. Putting liens on your home because of.

[Joe Budden]

An unpaid water bill and it's being sold. So the government is all bullshit. Look at.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish. Look at the white man.

[Big Parks]

Look at your man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at the White man pulled it out to go on. Yeah, go on the tax lien website. You looking for unclaimed homes. Yeah, but I'm just saying the government is still on bullshit, man.

[Joe Budden]

The man lost his home. There's a lot of people that's losing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Their homes that spend decades and seven days a week working to pay off. They pay off their mortgage and look what's happening.

[Joe Budden]

So just wanted to highlight that, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Fillmore Brown and hopefully.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know why we just can't.

[Joe Budden]

Pay the bill if it's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But whatever scam they got going on to, you know, take over the neighborhoods, that's what's going on. It's getting nasty out here since we talking.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, I'm letting Flip do that. Last time I got behind one of them Brooklyn projects. Couple months later, they pulled up all the bodies this nigga caught and I was feeling stupid talking about some Brooklyn street fish pond, nigga. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I remember.

[Joe Budden]

That's the. That's the koi koi. Got them tricks. These.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but that's not. Yeah, but it's an old man. You talking about something.

[Joe Budden]

I got to see his record.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, why you always do.

[Joe Budden]

What's up with these Brooklyn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a man that works seven days a week, no pay off his bill. He lost his house. There's a thousand people about to lose their homes because of this sham that the government got going on, man.

[Joe Budden]

That's up. And me and Ish will not look up those homes either. We ain't doing that. We. A play like that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's just made an offer.

[Joe Budden]

Apple paid that, Samsung paid that. Apple pay. Yo, this is. That's crazy. I wouldn't do that either.

[Big Parks]

Y.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, mics, man, I was watching an interview yesterday and Kamala Harris is doing an interview interview talking about running again. They said. Are you going to run? Yeah, for president.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

She do better.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You say what?

[Joe Budden]

She would do better.

[Big Parks]

She would do better with real time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think she'd do worse.

[Joe Budden]

Really? What are y' all talking about?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Kamala Harris said she might run again.

[Big Parks]

I think she'd do better.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it's the worst.

[Big Parks]

I think. I think she had the same exact. From what I understand that maybe I'm wrong. They said that she's used Joe Biden team. You can't run the same campaign of a 70 year old white man as you can as a black woman. I think it's just a bad strategy. And I think they were out of touch.

[Corey]

That's possible.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what? I think this might be an unpopular opinion. This might be unpopular. It might be. It's just true. I think it's true. And I. Let me be clear. I like Kamala.

[Corey]

Is this gonna be like the quarterback thing?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Some people will hear it that way. Some people are going to hear it that way. But it's not. It Parks is that people don't like her.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if they don't like her or they didn't know her, so they didn't resonate with her. It's two different things to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because every chance they have to vote for, they don't for president. Let me be clear. I like Kamala Harris.

[Joe Budden]

Is this up to her?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Running is up to her.

[Joe Budden]

She can run. Yeah. Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Running is up to her. You know, and. And let me. Again, I like her. I know her. I think she's a very nice, nice person. I don't think that communicates well on camera sometimes. And when she ran For President in 2020, she got almost none of the votes. I mean, Pete Buttigieg, everybody did better than her. Then she became vice president, and then she inherited the candidacy. I don't know if she wins a primary last summer if she actually had to run.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay. I would agree with that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You see what I'm saying? She didn't win the vote. They put her ass.

[Joe Budden]

Where can people find. Find you on Patreon and across your socials before you ask that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm glad you asked that, Joe. I actually have a video today called why Kamala Harris should not run for President on Patreon. Check it out. Mark Lamont, Hill official.

[Joe Budden]

But wait. Dead ass. He going, boy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

Mark is. Nobody's talking about how Mark is going for it on his Patreon.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's body.

[Joe Budden]

He's taking the hot headline and Ohtani in that bitch.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark, real quick, because this nigga want to play around.

[Joe Budden]

What do you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You think the disconnect is? That's what I want to know. With my Patreon. No, no. It's available.

[Joe Budden]

Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

On my Hill official. No, with the people. Why do you think that's a few things? I think people are tougher on women. I think people are tougher on black people. And I think she's not a good candidate for president. She ran. She ran successfully for the Senate. She ran successfully for attorney general. But I think when you run for president, it's a particular thing that Americans are looking for, whether it's fair or not. And I think Sometimes that connect isn't there. People don't feel connected, though. Got it. And I think that's the challenge with her. And her policies aren't that different than Biden, but for some reason, people felt more close to Biden. People felt closer to Obama. People feel closer to aoc. So there's Bernie. I mean, there's a way to do it. I just don't know if she's gotten it yet. And my worry is not whether she runs and wins or loses. It's that if she runs and loses, what if she wins the primary and now J.D. vance is president.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Or what if she runs hard in the primary and because black people are gonna vote for her, she could split the vote from somebody who has a better chance or who has better policies. And then the third party drives in who nobody wants. These are the kinds of things that I think about. And that's why I don't want her. That's why I don't want her to run. It's not cause I don't like her. It's not cause I hate her or nothing like that. I just don't think. I don't think she can win. And I think her losing has higher stakes for everybody else.

[Big Parks]

I think everything. I agree with everything he said. I think that charisma plays. I think charisma plays a part in the candidate running.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, white man gonna get the last word.

[Big Parks]

There you go. I think charisma plays a part in it. And I think we can say whatever we wanna say about Donald Trump. He reaches the people, bro. He resonates with people. I think. I think Obama was charismatic. I think that Hillary Clinton didn't win because nobody, like, she's like a piece of cardboard sitting up there talking to you. The bitch was like, no, take it back.

[Joe Budden]

God damn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Even if you think gender has anything.

[Joe Budden]

Do with it, I ain't going to hold y'. All. I see this is where I got to jump in. And I'm trying not to step on y' all serious topics. This is where they start saying that we anti intellectuals. Like, even if some of what y' all saying is true, is it irresponsible of y' all to say it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no. I think quite the opposite.

[Big Parks]

I think it's quite the opposite. I think that.

[Joe Budden]

Tell me.

[Big Parks]

You came in here and you made an amazing point when Trump was winning and you said, basically, whoever was on.

[Joe Budden]

His team, don't he drug me in it?

[Big Parks]

No, you said that whoever was on Trump's team, they were doing an amazing Job at reaching whatever target audience they wanted to reach. When we went to Detroit, we gonna go get Trick. Trick. Kamala Harris wouldn't come sit here. Kamala Harris wouldn't go to Rogan. Guess what Donald Trump did. Went right there to Rogan. Humanized himself in front of the biggest fucking fan base in the world. And so those things, I think, is where she dropped the ball in her campaign. You not resonating with the people, bro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you have to. You have to. And again, to me, why it's responsible is because the stakes are so high. Like, if her losing doesn't just mean she loses, not her personal win or loss, if her running makes it more likely that J.D. vance is president and Donald Trump effectively gets a third term, then I think it's irresponsible to run.

[Joe Budden]

Say again, then? You should be loud and vocal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Joe Budden]

I understand the thought process. Yeah. I saw a few. A few quick hits because that was our educated political takes paying the meter here. My uneducated Biden popped up somewhere to speak, and his mouth ain't moving no more as the words come out. He should be put up. It's time to go to Costco's. It's time to make. You know what I mean? What the. He don't need to publicly speak.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he shouldn't just say that he shouldn't.

[Joe Budden]

He doesn't need to publicly speak anymore is what I'm saying. That's number 1 2, the New York mayoral candidate race.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

One week left.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

My ignorant take is, boy, am I having fun watching Curtis Leeway's commercials, else he is for half a second law. I don't know. I don't know much about politics. When his commercial come up, you better not blink. And he don't got the. The good money. He ain't got the good font. Them shits look like he made him. Micah drew it and put it out like them commercials are funny.

[Big Parks]

Vote for piece.

[Joe Budden]

That's my second uneducated political. And my final uneducated political take is, like, I have already told y', all, I don't know if commercials work or don't work, but John Crittelli, that one.

[Big Parks]

Commercial, he only got one commercial.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, we are. I do not approve of John Crittelli as the governor over. Over there. Them commercials are still fucking him up with all that maga. You want maga? And listen, they almost turned Jersey. This is.

[Big Parks]

It's funny, but it's not funny.

[Joe Budden]

It's funny, but it's not. They almost turned Jersey. You see what they trying to do in New York. So for the commercial to come on and say Jack Crotelli is the Donald Trump of Trenton. Hey, make your way to the polls, God damn it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, seriously, anyone?

[Joe Budden]

To raise fucking New Jersey tax on food and clothes and all that.

[Big Parks]

He only got one commercial.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, get him the out of here. Get him out of here. I've seen his one commercial where he dissing his man. Nah, no, you're gonna need more than that. All right, that's the end of my political talk.

[Corey]

I said some news in economy, since we're.

[Joe Budden]

We're here.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah, since we're in economy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

Apparently Freezy tank it.

[Big Parks]

Apparently Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't even a new pair of Tims to rep. No limit, right? Oh, the out of here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I said the same.

[Joe Budden]

Look at Freeze. He even had a Lou Fresh. Ain't even had the Teflar. Tim this. Freeze. Telfar and the Tef.

[Corey]

This is bulletproof, right?

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. Teflon joints. Ah.

[Big Parks]

Cardi says that the price of Bizox boxes down due to the economy. The price of box is down, down.

[Joe Budden]

When did she say that? Are you serious?

[Big Parks]

She said it. I'm gonna. All right, I'll read it. I'll read it. You know how you know the economy is bad?

[Joe Budden]

How?

[Big Parks]

Because not even the prostitutes are getting fly.

[Joe Budden]

She's absolutely right, bro. She's right, bro.

[Big Parks]

Where have you seen a hoe with a good Chanel be bag? Chicks was buying Chanel bags like they was female rappers. Where have you seen a chick with a chain with her name on it? Where have you seen a chick pop out with a good Birkin? Even the prostitutes are going through it. The hoes were selling for 10,000, now they going for 2500. Cuz the economy is that bad.

[Corey]

Is there anybody in the room that has invested a lot into this stock that has.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That could kind of.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I totally agree with her. I've said on numerous occasions that me, I can tell which way the world is going by what the underworld is doing.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

To address her Chanel point though, Chanel has raised their prices incrementally every season, like more than probably everybody else. Oh no, ain't just running around getting a Chanel bag. You can go to flagship Chanel on 5th Ave. It ain't in there. You can't. Some of this is. Come on, what's the word? Scarcity. Is. Is scarcity. And prices with Chanel is all I'm saying. But all of her points are correct. They are.

[Big Parks]

I. I Know what you mean. I didn't know they were that high.

[Joe Budden]

No, this is ridiculous shopping.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You didn't know was that high?

[Joe Budden]

No, the other bag.

[Big Parks]

I looked, I said, you know, you.

[Joe Budden]

Went mosey and mosey the out, dip.

[Corey]

A little coffee at least.

[Joe Budden]

First I'm wetting the little.

[Big Parks]

Y' all can have that. I told. I told Shorty y. I did go look. That's not happening. Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, freeze.

[Big Parks]

No save up.

[Joe Budden]

I went in the Chanel that's in the mall. Here she go. Talk. I did need some ear muffs, girl. What she is. He has been freezing. Your whole life. Your whole life you living have been freezing. Icicles never worried about ear mugs. Matthew. Need Chanel ear. Chanel bags ain't no joke now. Now the resale on them, the secondary market. And as far as holding value, they hold.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to just preach half of a message. It does.

[Big Parks]

These white Chanel ear muffs look fire.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How much is this?

[Big Parks]

Two and a half. But then they got some other ones. That's 1350.

[Joe Budden]

1350.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

1350 for ear muffs?

[Corey]

They're gonna lose them shits too.

[Joe Budden]

See, that's what I'm tight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm still leaving them in the 1350.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. My girl talking about I want a Chanel scarf. Your neck been cold forever now you a scarf girl.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not even cold in Texas, boy.

[Joe Budden]

She preparing for the move.

[Big Parks]

You gotta get. You gotta get a right for the movie.

[Joe Budden]

We going. All of us is going to college. And.

[Corey]

College is expensive, dude. You can't have all these.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what's so crazy?

[Corey]

It's hard being a college student.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, this is what it up, right? Not it up, cuz. It's a great thing. But who who knows? This stuff you got to deal with as it happens, life on life terms, right? These athlete kids. If you go D1, you graduate in December of your senior year.

[Corey]

I didn't know.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

I know that either.

[Big Parks]

I know. Is there a reason why?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What is that? Well, I never heard of that before.

[Big Parks]

You gotta prep for the summer.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta go and get right. If you have a D1 offer, then you're outta here in December. You don't stay there for the senior year.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you mean if you're a senior in high school.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought you're a senior in high school.

[Big Parks]

That might be football.

[Joe Budden]

You are D. I'm talking football.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it might be football.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking football. I don't know nothing about none of that shit. What? Listen, my girl got every bag she gonna get this year.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chanel bags is expensive.

[Big Parks]

You don't make that determination.

[Corey]

Freeze. You right.

[Big Parks]

You don't make make that determination as the earner.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I do.

[Big Parks]

No, you don't.

[Joe Budden]

You want engagement, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You saying all that earning. Shut the up.

[Joe Budden]

I told her and she had too many mentions of her. Oh, well, please. They don't. They don't like spending their money.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She get the money.

[Joe Budden]

They don't like spending their money. They get the measles. Y' all all right. They get the mumps. They start finding coupons. And when it's they. When it's day money, they are responsible as a. What this is too.

[Big Parks]

We don't need two of these. But if I buy sign it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, birthdays got to go different. We not doing the the trip with the jet and the birthday gift and an engagement. No, girl, you better.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, so you get engaged by the birthday.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not doing none of that.

[Big Parks]

I wish Shade was here so she can give you that fix.

[Joe Budden]

Shade is here? You know, she changed her flight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She around. She applied. She applying the pressure.

[Joe Budden]

Talk about houses and all she do.

[Big Parks]

Is do like this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Parks]

She like. He just talking. He just talking.

[Joe Budden]

I told we was going to see a house tour. That virtual tour showed the laundry room. Anyway.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop making excuses. Go see.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm going to see something. I'm going to see some they like. Yo, only the foundation is laid. I'm coming.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's trying to.

[Joe Budden]

He trying to. I say some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You trying to kill time. Why the foundation la?

[Big Parks]

It's gonna take like two years for.

[Joe Budden]

The to be built. Boy don't kill no time the big joints. No, that's not true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How long take to be built?

[Big Parks]

Like a year depending on the square footage.

[Joe Budden]

Might not even be that money he paying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She want to get married now we got to move.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, the house. Exactly. The house is getting built.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know you can't do it.

[Big Parks]

Yo, yo, the permits.

[Joe Budden]

The permits, right? That's. Y ought to keep saying that. After my little birthday accident. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. You got as you do that in my face during rich argument.

[Corey]

Not literally.

[Joe Budden]

I hope you nasty. You can't control your give them other to wipe your ass for you. You got it. You right. You gotta in the fight, you gotta let that go. A few days later I did circle back. Why? Cuz, yo, you can't say that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta create Boundaries. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You can't say that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Budden]

You can't say that to me. I heard something. I heard it. Come to play with something safe ear.

[Big Parks]

All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hear that bass leap in his voice.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Anyway, Summer Walker. Summer Walker right in line with our Cardi B. Cardi B is absolutely right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thousand percent.

[Joe Budden]

Not that I've tried to purchase any recently, but she is right. Whatever was 3000 is 500. Whatever was 10,000. 2500. You do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They downsized, too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You live with your home girl now. Oh, yeah. That in the kitchen.

[Joe Budden]

You get the two for one. You get a two for you roommates. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This what our brother killed. To our brother.

[Joe Budden]

Our brother.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We can't mention. He killing our brother.

[Joe Budden]

We can't mention. Oh, my Lord.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I my fault.

[Joe Budden]

Hey. Ain't my fault. And if you don't know who these. Who these women are that we're talking about, just assume that all of them with the fake Van Cleef necklace, you could buy some pussy from them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You see how fake them shits you could buy.

[Joe Budden]

You could buy some pussy from them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You see how fake them shits is.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't what I be looking at, but yeah. Yeah, I do. The nerve of them. You see that ass? My girl be like, look, her necklace, girl. She got a neck. I'm trying to get the neck.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She got one. She giving one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, her necklace.

[Big Parks]

She get a neck from.

[Joe Budden]

Summer Walker. Summer Walker says these dude cast need help.

[Big Parks]

A fool.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dude cast is, bro. I need to. Anyway. Summer Walker. What's some of Summer Walker, son?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did.

[Joe Budden]

Summer Walker. Let me find what Summer Walker said. Summer Walker says something about while I find it, Audience. As an audience. Don't it feel good to know that some of the R and B songstresses that we depend on for breakup music are too nuts in Psycho to ever really find love, Right? We gonna be eating for a while. Summer Sizzle. Hey, it's hopeless for these.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Sister was cursing somebody out on Instagram that was taping her with the iPhone. She was like, you stupid. Those phones were made by kids in Congo. They pulled up every picture of her with a iPhone. They said, hey, you just posted with an iPhone. Girl, you shut your ass up. I was like, yo, we gonna be getting a slap for a while. Summer Walker.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You want the audio? Oh, you got it.

[Joe Budden]

Summer Walker says Mark Elevation said, you trying to steal my show from me. Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Elevation. He's right. He's 99% wrong, but he.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have it Go ahead, play the audio. I don't have the audio sent to me, Mark. I thought I had the audio. Summer Walker is rambling again. And here we go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Slipping in your pen.

[Joe Budden]

What Summer said, slacking in your macket. Summer said, that is here to spend it. And I'm done with relationship around love. Men are supposed to provide. So from this point forward, that's what I will do. I will get them to provide, add some context to her showing up at the awards with the older white gentleman that everybody was befuded about.

[Corey]

Do you want to hear about?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Corey]

Okay, let's do this, please.

[Big Parks]

When you go broke, I will leave.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You figure it out.

[Joe Budden]

So you're here to just bleed them dry?

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

As soon as you get everything, you're off.

[Joe Budden]

Do you normally seek out the victims or do they come? I love speedy.

[Corey]

Speed's great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

I never chase, so it's never outbound. I only attract.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Inbound only.

[Joe Budden]

And if you came and talked to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That'S your fault, right?

[Joe Budden]

Your prerogative. You signed up for this. Ladies, if you try to ride or die, you will in fact, die. Die. Dude, don't do that. The ride is there just as an illusion. I do want to think smoking Mary, being optimistic that not like 100 exclusively.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That will be the experience.

[Joe Budden]

You know, maybe there are some good dynamics still left. Yeah, it could be. I'm not a man haters. I don't know.

[Big Parks]

I just don't like them anymore.

[Joe Budden]

Like, when you say them like men.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't like to date wise like.

[Big Parks]

Y' all can provide, but like to like them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

That did a number which. That's why Summer, listen, you can't say what you want to say because you stepping on black women's voice and their opinions. And so you got to just let Summer say it.

[Big Parks]

Let it go.

[Joe Budden]

But I was there. I was there.

[Big Parks]

Shout out to her.

[Joe Budden]

Never seen a help somebody with so many groceries. She went to the grocery. Meech, Aunt, cousin, whoever that was, went to the grocery store and bought the whole Acme girl. And you was right there. You stayed. I was there for Larry. Larry. Like I came on the pause. You in love with Larry. Don't come popping now that Larry left. See, I remember you. I remember you with your baby daddy that you trying to hide. I know how he look. I remember you with your old bodies. You trying to scrub the Internet. I seen. Did you? I seen. Did you? I remember y' all when y' all was head over heels with the bum that we told you was a Bum. And you told us to mind our business. Don't pop it now. Don't pop it now. But I want to hear this album. I want to hear this album that.

[Big Parks]

Was going to be amazing.

[Joe Budden]

Classic this is going to be. Then she got the nerve to call it finally over it. No, you're not. No, you're not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not.

[Big Parks]

Next album right back on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. Anybody else with something to say on this tremendous topic?

[Corey]

I think you knocked it out the park.

[Joe Budden]

Thanks, Parks. Thanks, Parks.

[Big Parks]

Did you pick one?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark, I agree with you.

[Joe Budden]

What you got to say on this?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think she. I think she has a right to feel how she feel. I just think it's crazy. I. I think nobody should be looking at people as. As objects to you.

[Joe Budden]

If Larry spun you, you gotta shut the fuck up when it come to nigga topics. Sorry, sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was hoping it was a joke that they were doing that. That sarcastic thing that.

[Corey]

I think it was a little bit comedic.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It felt a little tongue in cheek. But, like, what I hate about it is half the people who go and listen to it aren't going to get the joke.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they're gonna double down on it.

[Joe Budden]

I don't like it. Google Larry if you don't get the joke. If you're having a hard time understanding what I'm saying, Google it. Larry put Summer Walker comic mama Larry, enter images, images.

[Big Parks]

They put it right there for you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, like, we ain't got to keep going through. We ain't got to keep going through this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all happy?

[Joe Budden]

And is this epidemic going on? Are y' all girls that like to get y' all ate by other girls that come around and start talking about and they contribution to the relationship? What is he looking at? Larry the Android pull up shit fast. What Larry look like on the Android? Nigga with the futuristic 8K. Look at Larry. Come on, now. I'm done with some. I want this album, but Summer Walker gonna chill out.

[Big Parks]

That's all we care about.

[Joe Budden]

She gotta chill out.

[Big Parks]

No, no, let her talk.

[Joe Budden]

Let her.

[Big Parks]

Let her get her off some.

[Joe Budden]

Gonna give us some classics while these keep driving trucks over them. Oh, easy. No, I listen to the music.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You do?

[Joe Budden]

If you listen to the M, y' all ain't gonna leave me on. You ain't gotta say leave me on. You ain't edge all alone, y'. All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, this is why they get mad at you.

[Joe Budden]

Anywho, what else needs our attention? What else is important?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Puff's got a date.

[Joe Budden]

May. What Is it may? Oh, I thought you meant 6, 20, 20, 28.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Some people were surprised by that date. They thought it was sooner than they expected. Other people. Some.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It'll be interesting to see what the actual date is. Obviously that's an estimate based on every everything. You know, when you factor in good time, when you factor in drug treatment, when you factor in all these things, the date could move up. We'll see.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's just. That's just the max out date as.

[Joe Budden]

Of Mark being a bitch.

[Big Parks]

No, he'll be in a. He'll be in a halfway.

[Joe Budden]

What'd you think, though?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I think. I think he's gonna be. I ain't that habitual. I actually think he's gonna get out sooner. Yeah, I'm still not. I'm still not convinced. Trump's not gonna commute it.

[Corey]

He's just gonna try to negotiate the best terms. Yeah, for Trump.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't have shocked me if you saw Puff home by Christmas.

[Joe Budden]

Well, let's just make sure Puff don't think that you're a tor.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No one will ever think that. No.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody. For real.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They wouldn't think that?

[Joe Budden]

No. Who would they confuse Mark with Bill Nye fun for. That's a fun for a little bit. Who they confuse Educator world. Let's see. And what's up with that hoodie you got? I gotta watch your hoodies.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no, it's just a Kobe Bryant hoodie. We actually sell it at Uncle Bobby's. My bookstore. One of one of our great books. We got this. We got Nipy and a couple others.

[Joe Budden]

Rest in peace, Kobe. Rest in peace Nipy for sure. I don't have nothing to say on the puff.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. I think he coming home now.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I think it'll be in the halfway house.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He going through this continues. He don't kinds of to say he.

[Joe Budden]

Going to check a lot of.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Budden]

Hey yo.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I heard what you said, you know didn't even seen brother Joe. What you say you wasn't going to talk to me again?

[Big Parks]

Let me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me holl at you real quick. Who talk to you, playboy? I mean I'm at Sylvius.

[Joe Budden]

Pull up on me when you see.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Brother Joe, you tell him make sure.

[Joe Budden]

He make his way. He said other days to my office Fitz immediately. That's just always going to be funny. It is.

[Big Parks]

We got new. New news that. I don't even know how to feel about this just yet. Apparently Cameron is suing jcole cyt.

[Joe Budden]

What Cys.

[Corey]

I Mean for what?

[Big Parks]

Back last. Was it last year when JCole dropped the mic?

[Joe Budden]

Delete later.

[Big Parks]

Okay, he did the I'm ready 2024 version. Apparently there was an agreement made for Cam's contribution to that. That J. Cole would either contribute to a future project of his or appear on the It Is what It Is show. Oh, and he hasn't done either. So now Cam is suing, saying I haven't been fairly compensated for my contribution to that project.

[Corey]

Okay, this seems like it's something that could be solved in a text or.

[Joe Budden]

Email, but maybe they J. Cole pay Cam and. Or that J. Col got it.

[Big Parks]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

Why didn't they just figure out some type of. Well, I guess they did figure out they did. Cuz Cam might have said, I don't want the money. I much prefer you to come on my show. You never came on my show. I don't know the particulars of it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I'm not even asking you for months to come on my show and you dubbing me. Well, I'm not. I'm not outside right now.

[Joe Budden]

I'm suing JCole too, if I'm J.

[Big Parks]

Cole, but you know, if I'm cold, all my pop outs are strategic.

[Joe Budden]

All this. Hey, if I got any reason to bring Jermaine to court just for fun, just to say you did it, that's bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that a fair barter? A verse for. For a show appearance?

[Big Parks]

No, no, you can't say that.

[Joe Budden]

Depends on fair. They think it's fair. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

They agree.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

In your prime, what was the Joe Button verse worth?

[Joe Budden]

In my prime? Yeah. From a major league label.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Like if you were making a bar money. Oh, that's interesting. I was thinking in terms of an exchange. Like if a co verse is worth an appearance on. On the pod, what would yours be worth?

[Corey]

Cam verse is worth an appearance on the bot.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I'm sorry, A can versus worth. Yeah. Right, right, right, right, right. They co appearing on the pod, but.

[Joe Budden]

Cole is also a huge Cam fan.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And they worked together before and they've worked together before, so that's where it gets.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So they have the value of the first.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, no, not at all. Not at all at all. They have some sort of amicable relationship, even if it's just professionally clearing samples, so who knows. But to answer your question, if it were a major label in my am I in my prime, I could have got maybe 25. But again, inflation happens since then, so that sounds low now, but 25 in my prime.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But it's probably like 50 now.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Oh, in terms of today, it would be 50 grand.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it'd be 50 grand.

[Joe Budden]

Like if Christina Milion and Marcus Houston somebody co op, get 50 grand in today's language.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got you. I'm thinking about that because the reason I asked was because I'm thinking about the barter, and I'm like, if I'm trying to start. It is what it is at that time, just using that number. A cold appearance when you're trying to get subscribers and you're trying to build it up, that still seems.

[Joe Budden]

It is what it is. Took off rather quickly.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Like overnight, like episode two.

[Corey]

And I feel like that was out before the mixtape in question. That could be wrong. And granted they could.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it was what it is. Was out before. So who do you think was being more fair?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm trying to understand. Yeah.

[Corey]

It sounds even steeper.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A little bit. Okay.

[Big Parks]

Cam didn't rap on that.

[Joe Budden]

Sounds like so.

[Big Parks]

So I know I let you use my shit. I let you use my shit. And I might take no bread, so.

[Joe Budden]

I think it don't sound like a bad. Like a bad change to me.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. And I think if I'm. And they agreed, so it couldn't be that bad at the time. I think if I'm Cam, I'm like, yo, keep your bread. Just do me a certain solid the way I'm doing you a solid.

[Corey]

I also understand it from Cole's position where like. Like Ice was saying he's strategic. When he does pop out and do. He don't just pop up. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

I'm not like, yeah.

[Corey]

And he probably has something coming relatively soon. So he's like, yo, just wait till March when my drop.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Actually, now, the more that we talk it over, communicate that Cam comes up in that it still may be a fair exchange. But because potting and these shows have taken off, I can take a star rapper's verse or appearance and turn it into money that you won't be able to see. Got it. The replay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's so many things that come into having.

[Joe Budden]

I can take this and go to people that are not in the music business and get an eight figure check.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I got J. Cole just off.

[Joe Budden]

Your name, just off of you.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I was thinking.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying that's. I don't know their business, but if I had a J. Cole appearance, there's no sponsor that I wouldn't be able to speak to. There's no Company I wouldn't be able to speak to.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I could.

[Joe Budden]

I could go and don't let me have this a month in advance where I can actually shop and talk to people. Right. That would be great. What is Cole getting out of the Other than I'm a fan. I'm trying to honor the culture and I love you and I want to. What does he get out of this? The co verse is going to be the cold song. It's going to be the cold record, going to be the cold album's going to be the cold whatever. If I'm Cam and I'm a hustler, I'm flipping that 90 million different ways. Cole knows that.

[Big Parks]

And Cam would.

[Joe Budden]

Cam.

[Big Parks]

Cam is that.

[Joe Budden]

And Cole knows that.

[Big Parks]

He will flip the hell out of that.

[Joe Budden]

I really got to salute them at Complex Con having out there. I do, man. All weekend I was looking at my phone like, oh, all right. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, hey. Oh, okay. Like, they. They did it. They did. They did it. Right. Did it. Shout out to all parties involved.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I can't wait to see what Cole pops out with next.

[Corey]

Same.

[Big Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I don't care about any of the in between.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Between album stuff. I want to hear his brain, his thoughts coming off of all of that. It's time now.

[Big Parks]

I want to hear the fall off. That's it. I'm ready. That's it. I like the mic. Delete later was cool. You know, apology. I don't really care. It is what it is. Is in hindsight now looking. It was the best move to make. We've all, I think, agreed upon that for sure. I'm just ready for album, Cole.

[Corey]

Me too.

[Big Parks]

We there now.

[Corey]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

Same.

[Corey]

And I'd have to imagine it'll be coming somewhat soon.

[Big Parks]

Gotta be, gotta be prediction. Any prediction.

[Corey]

Drop time, spring next year.

[Big Parks]

I had them before February.

[Corey]

February, really?

[Big Parks]

So anytime between now and end of January.

[Corey]

Nah, he's gonna want to play the Grammy. Grammy hot spot time in January is tougher.

[Big Parks]

I drop. I drop. I dropped January and Grammys is February. I'm outside. No, no, no, no, no.

[Corey]

He said after Grammy nominations start in September. So you were. If you drop in February, you're all people's minds by the time the voting happens in the next September.

[Joe Budden]

I have a part of the show that's rapid it long, but I really will read it. This says if I could stop up my. Let me see. Okay. It's so long that I got to try to read this a different way. Who is this? This person Is J. G. What's up, G. What's happening, G. What up, G. And rest in peace to my little white boy G. From Seattle passed a few months ago. I gotta say that again, if I didn't say it the first time, shout out to G. Rest in peace. All right, but this G says, I think sometimes when you guys cover things like the Stephen A. Smith Bronnie topic, you occasionally miss the mark because you either personally know one of the subjects of discussion or because you empathize, empathize in some way as a fellow public figure, broadcaster, etc. So I wanted to try to give you an outside perspective on the topic as someone who isn't connected in any way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know Stephen A. Smith. I don't know LeBron. I don't know anyone with the Lakers, ESPN or anyone involved. I'm just a fan and want to tell you why I think what Stephen A. Smith does is both nasty and distinctly different from, say, how Mark might critique Bronnie. You all know for a fact fact that Stephen A. Smith doesn't think Bronnie deserved to be taken with the 55th pick. Right? He doesn't think he belongs in the league. He thinks it's nothing more than nepotism and leverage. He's covered it. He's covered it ad nauseam. I need to make the font bigger. He's covered it ad nauseum on his show. And he says he does it because it's his job to cover the NBA and relevant storylines, so he has to talk about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

About it.

[Joe Budden]

And as you all say, Bronnie chose to be a professional basketball player. So he has therefore subjected and opened himself up to any and all critiques.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Joe Budden]

Okay, fair.

[Big Parks]

I'm following.

[Joe Budden]

But let me ask you, what is Stephen A. Smith's opinion about the 54th pick in that draft? What's his opinion about the 44th pick? Do any of you know what he thinks about the 34th pick? What's his opinion about the 24th pick pick? Quick, off the top of your head, I want someone on that couch to tell me what Stephen A. Smith's opinion is of Zachary Richard Rich. Assure.

[Corey]

I think we've said this opinion, but carry on.

[Joe Budden]

G. Well, he's got a lot more to go here.

[Corey]

Okay?

[Joe Budden]

You don't know. And that's the point. See, I would have said that it's fair to critique Bronnie and not the 54th pick because by the sheer nature of his name and lineage, Bronnie is a bigger storyline. But he was also the 55th pick. Fifth pick, Zachary Ricochet was the number one overall pick in that draft. Who the is that? What draft you talking about?

[Corey]

Maybe talk about second round.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay. The first overall pick every year is a guy that the NBA hopes and praise can someday turn into the face of the league. He should absolutely be a storyline. And I'm willing to bet that 99.9 of listeners not only can't tell me what Stephen A. Smith's opinion of him is, but they probably don't know who he is or where he plays. But you know for a fact that Bronny doesn't belong in the league because the biggest name in sports broadcasting on the biggest show and on the biggest network routinely tells you, both directly and indirectly, that Bronny doesn't belong. Uh, look, Bronny James isn't LeBron, but he was a McDonald's All American and a starter on a legitimate D1 team before he had a fucking heart attack. And if that wasn't enough, he has one percentile athleticism in the history of the world. Yeah, I think an NBA team might take a swing on the kid. You want to see real nepotism? Tell me why Stephen A. Smith's daughter is getting airtime on the biggest platform in sports media.

[Corey]

Restrict was the first pick he's picked.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number pick by Atlanta in 2024. Yeah, from France. He's from France.

[Joe Budden]

Is her resume in journalism equivalent to Bronnies in basketball? And even if it is her resume, better? Is her resume better than the millions of people out there that have been grinding away for years in the sports media and journalism space and would kill for a couple minutes every now and then on ESPN's First Take? Or did Stephen A. Smith use his power and leverage to get her airtime? Stephen A. Can spin the narratives any way he wants. That show was not founded on the Dallas Cowboys or Tim Tebow or Alabama football or Len Sanity. First Take built an empire, mainly off its patriarch, Skip Bayless, coming in every single day and finding some new way to kick LeBron's back in, no matter what the topic was. And when Skip left, Stephen A. Took up the mantle by constantly taking passive aggressive, snarky pot shots at LeBron with sarcastic graphics and graphics and title bars. Sassy jabs damning with faint praise.

[Big Parks]

Oops.

[Joe Budden]

Screen darkened. Damning with faint praise and all other sorts of petty bullshit to convince a Jim generation of fans that the guy Stephen A. Smith himself admittedly has ranked as the second greatest basketball player to ever play the game is nothing more than A whiny, petulant, unimpressive, soft hearted diva. And even though LeBron has occasionally taken a little shot here and here and there in the media, for the most part he's taken it all on the chin for the past 23 years because he understood the weight that comes with being the face of the NBA. But now, now, after all of that, after decades of careers, television shows and networks being built off, kicking my back in as I'm on my way out the door, you're still taking shots at at me by crucifying my kid? Nah, dog. Now I gotta come see you. Every segment, Stephen A says athletes got his number. Every segment he talks about how easy it is to find him and that he's at the games. Every segment he says that they could talk to him at any point. Well, Braun pulled up and you wasn't about it. Or maybe, just maybe, you knew you were in the wrong. I get it. Stephen A's all of our friend. But there are a lot of topics, including LeBron, where I think Stephen A's pretty foul and doesn't deserve bail. And the more I hear about political parties considering him for office, the sicker.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I get about it.

[Joe Budden]

A rich, charismatic, loudmouth, politically inexperienced, eager, egotistical celebrity who takes zero accountability and usually doesn't know what he's talking about, but is absolutely sure he's right running this country. Yeah, that one hits a little too close to home at the moment for my liking. End quote.

[Big Parks]

That's what's happening right now.

[Joe Budden]

Tell me about it.

[Big Parks]

The President of the United States is everything that he just described.

[Joe Budden]

I get it. I get it.

[Big Parks]

But I think homeboy is mistaken in a few. A few points.

[Joe Budden]

I agree.

[Big Parks]

I think he's mistaken in one.

[Joe Budden]

Have at it.

[Big Parks]

He was the 55th pick. Cool. Your father is arguably a top three basketball player to ever lace up sneakers. Fair or unfair, you will be the subject of the media. So if he was great, he would be the subject of the media. He's not so great. He's still going to be the subject of the media based on who your father is. So you got to take the goods and the bads that come along along with who your father is. So to his point, it's beating a dead horse, bro. I just think that Stephen A. Smith, in my opinion, didn't never say anything negative about Bronny James. I think he said something negative about his basketball ability. And I think that that is what he is paid to do. If we were in here critiquing rappers and Trey Came in and Trey didn't have. And somebody said, trey don't have dope bars. They're not taking a shot at Trey. He didn't say anything about Trey's personal anything. He said, I don't think he's a good enough basketball player to be in the NBA. And he's well within his right to say that. I don't think that's disrespectful to Bron or Bronny. But when you start saying like, as a father, you should step in and you shouldn't allow it, like, you, you made it, you took it more than basketball, you made it.

[Joe Budden]

Damn.

[Big Parks]

In a ton on LeBron's father skills, allowing your son to join, even enter the draft.

[Joe Budden]

I would have a word for anybody that chose to critique Stephen A's daughter as a broadcaster because she's getting main airtime on whatever channel he chooses to put her on. I would think that that's foul. Not just because she's underage, but because why would you do it?

[Big Parks]

And bigger than that, why would you do it? Everybody on these couches, Everybody on these couches sat here and I want to.

[Joe Budden]

Hear from Mark on that hold up.

[Big Parks]

Everybody on these couches sat up here and said, yo, I appreciate the nepotism.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's a fact.

[Big Parks]

Every motherfucker in this room said, yo, I don't. Because again, the bronnie situation is two sided. One is LeBron James has put his blood, sweat and tears into building a league. I don't give a fuck if my son not good enough to be here.

[Joe Budden]

So what?

[Big Parks]

Go make my son a multimillionaire. Because I earned for my son to be a multimillionaire. Then there's a basketball conversation that says, yo, yeah, he was a McDonald All American. He might not have been all state. He might not even deserve to be a McDonald All American in some people's opinion. So that's two totally different conversations.

[Corey]

There's also the third side of that, which is the business conversation is this man is gonna say James on the.

[Big Parks]

Back of his jersey and we gonna market it. He's gonna sell a shitload and we gonna market it. So he's worth him.

[Corey]

He's worth all the press, all the oversized for his draft status money that he got anything. Because he's going to sell tickets, he's going to sell impressions on media, on the Internet. He's worth every cent. Now, I think there's a whole lot of both things can be true in this whole email and diatribe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's a lot of nuance. I think there's. Respectfully, I think that person's doing a lot of apples and oranges comparisons.

[Big Parks]

He is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But I agree. I think we can critique Bronny J as a basketball player, and that should be the end of it. I agree with you. We shouldn't be critiquing LeBron as a dad.

[Big Parks]

As a dad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

The two don't have to. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But even that is not an attack on Bronny. That's an attack on LeBron. And if LeBron wants to take that up, I think he has a right to. Yeah. He says Stephen A. Said, you have my phone number. But he didn't call him. He rolled up on him in the stadium, which is different. I think the whole point is we can have this conversation offline, off the record, and build a relationship. He don't owe Stephen A that. But I do think that, again, that's apples and oranges. I get the point about Stephen A's daughter, but again, there's a difference between bringing your kid on as you're a kid, as a kind of a fun thing for a broadcast, and bringing her.

[Joe Budden]

On as a system to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And bringing her on as a co host.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because if you bring your daughter on to be a co host and now you're stepping over other people's resumes, then, yeah, I do have a right to say, this isn't good tv. I'm not gonna attack her as a person, especially as an underage person, but even as a grown person, I'm sure. But I'm gonna say I don't even like talking about. Right. Me either. But I don't. But I don't think it'd be wrong if they brought her on inside the NBA to be.

[Joe Budden]

To be an analyst for people to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Say, I also don't enjoy this.

[Corey]

I also don't think that that's necessarily an attack on their fathering ability, by the way. I think that's like a shout out to your fathering, like, yo, you pull all these strings.

[Big Parks]

That's dope.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right? But what I wouldn't say is, you know, as a dad, you should be embarrassed to have your daughter on TV like that. Cause then that's where it becomes weird. And that's why I think, Steve, I would not have said what Stephen A. Said.

[Big Parks]

True.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But I do think it's okay, again, if you put someone in a position to be criticized that marriage critique, to criticize them. And I think that's the difference between the Stephen A. Example and the Bronny example. And also you gotta take the good with the bad. Bronny James was not the first best player on his high school team. He wasn't the second best player on his high school team. He didn't. His numbers didn't deserve. And I'm not saying that to criticize him right now. No, no, I'm not kicking his back. I'm doing the opposite. I'm doing the opposite. I'm saying we gave him a lot more attention, favorable attention as a high school player and as a college player than he deserved too. But nobody was mad about that. Nobody was saying why are we spending so much time showing the high school games at the fourth best player at Sierra Canyon? Or why are we spending so much time showing? Because we didn't. Because we were rooting for Bronny. We want him to win. I'm still rooting for him. I want him to win. But you can't get mad. You can't accept the favorable coverage that wasn't deserved. And they get mad at the critique that wasn't deserved.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, G was a little long winded and turn he's made us long winded. I've given more attention than I'd like to to the Bronnie James saga. I do have another fan submitted question that may be a bit more entertaining for me at least. Let's hear it. Uhoh, no, it's just a good question. This is from a gentleman named J. Sire 30. I saved the question. All right.

[Big Parks]

What's happening J?

[Joe Budden]

Somebody with a part of the show asked these niggas this year. Now he's white, so he might never said niggas. I'm just talking. He said, since there is always talk about Joe painting a narrative, what would each cast member want their narrative to be and how would it make the show better? I repeat the question. Since there is always talk about Joe creating a narrative, what would each cast member want their narrative to be and how would it make the show better? I read that and thought it was a really good question. I saved it to present it to you guys. It's got to be more entertaining than Bronnie James slander.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's a tough question.

[Joe Budden]

It's a tough question. It's a tough question.

[Big Parks]

Just answer off the impromptu.

[Corey]

I think there is when they kind of happen naturally through things that we say, things that we do, even if we don't like them, are entertaining and make the show better.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's right. That's right.

[Corey]

So I think whatever happens next, I think forcing a Narrative often comes across weird, cringy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

Whereas wearing New Balance all the time and you have a New Balance deal is funny. Like, it's not. And it's not hard hurting anything. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Except his. I'm gonna say his NDA, so that's.

[Joe Budden]

Probably a fly narrative that'll make the show better. Like, oh, he wearing all New Balance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what y' all saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What do you think the narrative should be?

[Joe Budden]

Don't flip a question on me. Y'. All. The question. Clearly, y' all know what time it is with me. I like making up narratives. I'm gonna say that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm not that he likes New Balances. I think it's that we're so. That Joe treats us so poorly, underpays us so much that we have to seek outside deals.

[Joe Budden]

So that's a narrative.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the narrative. That's the fun narrative. He flipped it. I love that one.

[Joe Budden]

Y. When he get to do a half day of work, this. Flip the.

[Big Parks]

Out of that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He up, too.

[Joe Budden]

Let's think. Let's think about it and try to come back in Patreon. Mark will ask you Friday on Patreon, but let's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's try.

[Joe Budden]

I think it's a good question. I think it deserves more attention than us saying now. You mean like the you and the wrench stuff? Yeah, like, it naturally came up if we want to beat a dead horse. It's funny. It's organic. Nobody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I say this since I'm not gonna be on the Patreon. I do like heel narratives. I. That's the thing that I like. I like being the heel. I like being the bad guy. I like narratives that make me.

[Joe Budden]

You don't say.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think they're fun because they're not true. The ones that aren't true. Yeah, like. Oh, not like crazy, but like. Yeah, I think it's fun, you know, Narrative.

[Joe Budden]

When you got a haircut this morning?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yesterday.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that fresh black, ain't it? Look at him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at that shit.

[Joe Budden]

Sharpie, look at that. Yeah, look at Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was waiting for it.

[Joe Budden]

You look good. You look good. I don't have anything else that needs our attention today. I think this was an amazing podcast with great energy. Give it up for yourselves, man. It's a good, positive. Real good part. Real good part. Such a good part. You want to do sleepers?

[Corey]

It's up to you.

[Joe Budden]

It's been a while.

[Corey]

It has been a while.

[Joe Budden]

And every. Every musician that parks Me or Ice Shout out, they are really Grateful during the week.

[Corey]

Let's do sleepers.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it. Let's do sleepers. Why not that you got you. If y' all talk, I. I got it. If y' all talk, I got one.

[Corey]

I miss sleepers, so I'm always happy to do sleepers.

[Joe Budden]

Do you got one?

[Corey]

I spent too much time listening to music too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you mind?

[Joe Budden]

Do you mind? His uncle made that song. Larry Graham. But if your heart isn't in it, why don't you tell me so. Hey. Oh, man. All right. What am I doing here? Sleeper, sleeper, sleep. Find out who else you lied about as your cousin back in the days. Oh, you doing ish. Yeah, you talking Barry, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

El Debar, yo. What he was just saying, you know, he was skinny and light skinned. Oh, he was definitely Debar. It's fine. You fight with your getting ass.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Sorry, sorry, sorry. That's my. The intro was fire. I might have to play that one again. All right. Sasha Keeble. Why not? Featuring Bean. This record is called Work. And this project is all the way fire. If you don't know about it. But this particular record is called Work. Featuring Beam. Let's go see you trying to catch my eye don't need no permission to make you mind tonight just like your dog you give me night and say.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You care for nothing like that when.

[Joe Budden]

I was now down mouth open like you saying something to me you got your hands full to keep you stable. Just throw me over the day baby.

[Big Parks]

It work, work Open up your short and use leave from inside here to your besties.

[Joe Budden]

Me. That's brand new music from Sasha Keeble. That record is called Work featuring Beam. That is off her act, right? Project Absolute Heat. Shout out to Sasha and Beam. Available in your phone and on dsps. Right this very same.

[Big Parks]

I'm gonna shoot on down to D.C. this record, this record is Mirror on the Benz Wale featuring Binks.

[Corey]

It's Benny. I think he's pronounced something else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Benny.

[Corey]

Benny X I believe is how it's pronounced. Benny X. Shout out to Benny X.

[Big Parks]

Who the flies in the room who inspired everybody that's inspiring to you? I won't to my own horn. I'm just wearing it to you and I know you just a mirror. But my fears on to you therefore them little boys ain't nowhere near you don't care but just annoy that they be playing you. Those years of paranoia probably took a toll. But depressing the toe Mirror, it ain't only you. You deserve Everything you do they going to try get you in the mood they going to try cause it work right say their nip never stop listening to you oh Mary don't you forget remember Glenn Lewis don't feel like you really him But I'mma see to it that you feel like you really him cuz I'mma need you Cuz now we see what this really is we got here too you deserve everything you do they going to try get you in a movie they going to try cuz it work right. Should have never stop listening to you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Mirror mirror on the left the coach send you home you don't know what's coming next you thinking boy stay cool you always been a dog but the porter wasn't on they going to send your ass home before you even get the stretching. Mirror, mirror, mirror look at all your transgressions Think you crazy crackers think you too aggressive the people think you mad I ain't mad reflecting but this flower bomb dropping no B been a few years see what we going to do yeah so many peers have stopped calling than you yeah let's make it clear on who you loyal to Table your.

[Joe Budden]

Tear see what we going to do.

[Big Parks]

Is m look at me no M look at me they try by Joe style they walk out with crooked te no self sabotage nor the ops awake if you ever need to talk no I always be in your face you deserve everything you do they going to try get you in a move they going to try cuz it work right. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And again, that record is Mirror on the Benz Wale, Benny X. Excuse me, pardon my mispronunciation of the name off of Wale's new album Everything is a lot which will be out November 14th.

[Corey]

Can't wait for it.

[Big Parks]

Can't wait for it.

[Joe Budden]

November 14th.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Go Wale man rooting for you.

[Corey]

I'm going to London. This is Dave. My 27th birthday which I'm only playing about half of because the record's long as but he went crazy.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

Why fish on the coast of the Caribbean? My life is a film hero and villain. I'm playing both in a script worthy of Spielberg or Christopher Nolan. Reading the constant overachieving. I know I ain't as rich as them people with old money, but I didn't know money. They mocked me online for speaking up on all of our issues and being vocal the that I see on socials. But how can I stay silent when. When I'm out in Barbados, White people mistreating locals. The villa In Jamaica by its own by the Chinese Head to the right beach and I try charging us five each they say the Caribbean paradise Like why leave? But how can I be silent when there's blood on the pine trees? Most of us will sacrifice our soul for the right fees. Before I find love I'm just praying I find peace. Before I find love I'm just praying I find peace. You know what I believe? I don't know if I handled it well It's Coca Cola. Did I stop drinking Fanta as well? I can see the blood on the lyrics I'm writing myself I cried about slavery then went to the Bible my girl surely I ain't part of the problem I lied to myself Jewels that my people died for A sign of my wealth My work is a physical weight on my life and my health the last couple years feel like I've been inside on a shelf I just phone, sleep and I send you a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Spider.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

Myself but when I'm all alone I won't lie I question myself Am I self destructive? Am I doing the best for myself? I know I love music but I question the rest of myself like why don't you post pictures? Why didn't you drop music? Or why not do something but sitting and stressing yourself? 10 years I've been in the game and I won't lie it's getting difficult. This used to be spiritual. We don't need no commentators. We could leave that to the sports. Just listen to the music. Why do you need somebody's force and some of it constructive but the most of it is force and why we count the numbers how the music make you feel? I'm just being real white fish on the coast of the Caribbean My life is a film hero and villain I'm playing both in a script worthy of Oscar and Hollywood nominations Throwing money at women in different denominations and killing the conversation all them people told me keep grinding, be patient it's weird being famous Trying to navigate the spaces Feel like a celebrity but you ain't on the A list and you never drop so you ain't really on a playlist but your fans love you can see it on their faces America could feel so close that you can taste it 2017 was trying to make it to the ranges 20, 25 I'm trying to make.

[Joe Budden]

This killing how do I explain Me.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

And my soulmate are strangers that we've already met? How do I explain? Because I'm running out of pages how do I explain South London and it's dangerous Can't Recall the last time that we was all together but all I can remember the Olympics was in Beijing Moves to the virus for the taxes that they take skin or move to Qatar Feel the breeze on the beach but how can I explain to my kids that this fake win free but I'm broke have me feeling like I'm caged in how do I explain two pounds got you eight wings how do I explain my ops lost but we ain't win girls I'm around had surgery on their hips how do I explain that I love her the way she is? How do I explain my feelings on having kids that it wasn't what it was but it is what it is how do I explain My are in the hood and they don't ask for nothing Even though they know they could Cuz they rather trap, rob and get out on their own how do I explain these messages on my phone I just got to call my girl sitting in the car and it says Serge But Serge with us in the car and know I might sound like a villain from afar how do I explain that my mechanic is a chick or why is she calling me when I don't even know the whip because my license is remote I mean how do I explain I don't want to lose my identity as pain how do I explain I mean how do I explain I went and hit the streets because I didn't want a boss I ended up at work, I was barely getting paid for someone that was two years above me and my age I didn't even find it strange I mean how do I explain.

[Corey]

That'S my 27th birthday. It's about half of it. It's a seven minute record.

[Joe Budden]

You really like Dave?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Seven minutes.

[Corey]

He went absolutely crazy. Mark, there's another record about like Palestine Sign Thoughts from today. The album is really good. I know Dave is incredible. He's been incredible for a while.

[Joe Budden]

Shout Out Is this from like an album?

[Corey]

Yeah, his new album is called the Man. The Boy who Played the Harp I believe is called He Went Crazy. Dave is fire.

[Joe Budden]

He's been. That record is hard.

[Corey]

The drums come in in the second half.

[Joe Budden]

Really there drums I can't lie Even.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

Show to me yeah, let me get.

[Joe Budden]

A little bit of I Can't lie.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

It even shocks me how I'm living now Staring at this Rachel Jones pain and I'm sitting down the last thing I drew was a weapon I'm living wild turned 27 but I feel like I'm still a child in this house out in central London I can Barely afford six months sober and I feel like I'm Dave again. Drinking all my pain and my sorrows away again. I got withdrawal symptoms, but they happen at ATMs. Next two years I'll be looking at ATMs. Best artists in the world.

[Corey]

This record's across.

[Guest Artist (possibly Dave or Pete Bailey)]

Maybe James Blake or Jim on a Day. Depends. Let's see who quits now. We ain't getting paid again. Yeah. I'm just here drinking liquor by myself. Is my music just becoming a depiction of my wealth? Never trust a girl whose lock screens a picture of herself. I had to learn that myself.

[Joe Budden]

I thought the drunk might it up. That took it to another level. I like this guy though. Right?

[Corey]

Yeah. I think I might have put. He had another record that was like seven minutes long that was absolutely incredible on his last album. It was a story.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I've liked this guy. If you. If you're missing out on. On music because you have a hard time with the accents. I'm wanting to say that as I don't watch certain TV shows with accident, but music not quite the same for me. Shout out to Dave. That was crazy.

[Corey]

Dave is fire, man. Shout out to Dave.

[Joe Budden]

What's up? You lost your touch, man. It's over.

[Big Parks]

I'm going to.

[Joe Budden]

She wrapped you up.

[Big Parks]

Pete Bailey, Keith keep you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you lost. Oh, never mind.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

One little note.

[Joe Budden]

The first note to tell me what's going on.

[Corey]

You not wrong.

[Joe Budden]

Woman can sleep with any man she want you mud ass man sleeps with.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Whoever less him I slap the out of this.

[Joe Budden]

What the. A good way for sleepers to come back. Nobody likes to talk about people like music. Life's good. All right.

[Corey]

The money.

[Joe Budden]

He's. He's still the king. Oh, he's still the king. Come down. Stop.

[Big Parks]

Man.

[Joe Budden]

This is good for these. I ain't going to hold you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's.

[Joe Budden]

This.

[Big Parks]

Is heavy.

[Joe Budden]

Still choose to see through. Anybody can have you who really deserve you.

[Corey]

Keep you.

[Joe Budden]

This black. Oh, hell no extra points for this. I don't chase bodies or real hearts. If I can pray with your daddy, I can't play that part. See, love ain't about perfection. It's about protection. Cover your soul when life starts stressing I need purpose over pleasure. Foundation over flexing. You can. Can you trust me? You can love me, but can you? We ain't talking ownership. We talking partnership. Huh? Yo, baby, I love you. If you're listening, I'mma get that ring you want, baby. Talking partnership over ownership.

[Big Parks]

I was about to say that. That's not financial abuse.

[Joe Budden]

But my thing Is this is somebody else? They should. They should say who this is. That can't be the same person.

[Corey]

Why did that.

[Big Parks]

This.

[Corey]

My bad. That just died.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo. Shout out the feature, dog. She eating.

[Big Parks]

She killing. The words of the song is fire.

[Joe Budden]

Both these hoodies say Bailey. Bailey. I don't know who the lady is, but.

[Corey]

Trying to pick it back up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She ate.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, guitar.

[Big Parks]

I'm going to keep you. Anybody can have you.

[Corey]

Why all his album covers look like AI?

[Joe Budden]

This is real, right? Might be AI. Who is Pete Bailey? Guitar solo, right here. Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

See, access don't mean alignment.

[Corey]

Gotta get the little arm.

[Joe Budden]

Reverse. He knew he made something. Look at him talking. He knew he got it, man. Oh, come on. He knew he did that. He know he's supposed to let that guitar. Come on. Hey, come on.

[Corey]

A little something.

[Joe Budden]

Give him a little something. Let him eat. Let's keep.

[Corey]

Let's keep.

[Joe Budden]

You Pete Bailey. Pete Bailey. You are hating that ass. You know that was supposed to get a little 30 seconds to himself. Shout out, Pete. Bill. That was fire. That was dope.

[Corey]

That was dope.

[Joe Budden]

And shout out the feature. That record was fire. I could tell y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Y'. All. Y' all miss Sleepers.

[Corey]

Listen, man.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all miss Sleepers.

[Corey]

It be dope music out there.

[Joe Budden]

Y sleepers in the stash.

[Corey]

Dope music.

[Joe Budden]

Now.

[Corey]

The Dave just came out, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we could cut mine. We got. We. I know we got things to do.

[Corey]

Oh, okay. He was gonna play Danger Boss and Black Thought, which is fine.

[Big Parks]

Yo, I swear, I was about to be like, yo, what Black Thought did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's From Cheap Codes 2, the upcoming anticipated album with Deja Mouse and Black Thought is called actually, We Play it. Yeah, it's called up.

[Corey]

I'll try to find a little early cut.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Who was that? Say hello to the Lord Were my sincerest regards While the rising and tired of troubled waters we crossed into the fire and frost when the desire is lost It's a survivor's remorse that raised high in the course during the Year of the Horse I had so much to resolve it hung me over I was fearing the hair of the dog they killed my homie I was there when they carried him off when we buried him we wrapped him in Nigerian claw They told a story about him having a malaria call they tried to say he had a weapon that was clearly a torch I hold the fury so they fear me but it nearly was washed Expecting me to be forgiven like it really was washed But I have seen so much that I can never be Hushed I've been the bearer of a burden that is heavy as fuck I'm pure legacy incredibly I'll never be touched it ain't nowhere to go from here but up.

[Joe Budden]

Finally feel so.

[Big Parks]

Low to the ground Never fell on.

[Joe Budden]

Like this before.

[Big Parks]

I've seen the culture decline while we were all in denial and seen the murderer smile as he was brought in the trial I watched the culture circle awaiting the fall of a child and canines devoured alive the.

[Joe Budden]

Call of the wild I couldn't accept.

[Big Parks]

The charge for the call of the boy over progress destroyed over Darwin and Freud Survival totally could depend on the toss of a coin or a pawn which organization allowed you to join? I live on the borderline like a dis water blind or like Malcolm suiting up the head to the autobahn I caught a vibe I would have taken as some sort of sign where I'm more aligned But I was running so short of time and I have felt so much that I am numb to the touch Whenever something's making hard for me to function is rough Cause every something I ever wanted was brought to my clutch so ain't nowhere to go.

[Joe Budden]

From here but.

[Corey]

That'S up Danger mouse Black thought and ragged boat man Shout to rag bone man too was talking.

[Joe Budden]

Some he got busy Shout to was talking some that record was hard again. Good pod you guys. Real good pod. Good energy. Come on man. Listen stupid. Same time, same place this week. Hold up Ice on is. Yeah. Stop playing man. And they don't make it like that no more. Listen man, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there individually and collectively. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have until next time. Oh remember life is a simple series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, remember the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. And if they old enough, they know the vibes. Let me hear you out there. Hey, anybody got any interesting plans this week? Anybody got interesting plans this week that we can exploit for entertainment purposes?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mississippi this week. Wednesday night I will be at Tougaloo College in Jackson, Mississippi. All day day all over the city doing speaking, things like that. But the evening is at Tougaloo College. Make sure you slide through. If you're anywhere near Mississippi, are you.

[Joe Budden]

Back in New Jersey by Sunday?

[Big Parks]

It's Tukalu.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Tugalu. Yeah. T O U G A L O. Yeah, I think it's Tugaloo. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back by Thursday.

[Joe Budden]

All right, well, Sunday. My dad said if you're available.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just got. Just got to check the schedule.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you said that a few hours ago.

[Big Parks]

That mean. That mean he not going to be available.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been on the show for a few hours.

[Joe Budden]

Tell what it means.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ask my wife.

[Joe Budden]

Mark, if your heart was in it.

[Big Parks]

Not a so long ago.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, if your heart was in it, the answer would. I mean, real good episode, man.

[Big Parks]

Y' all.

[Joe Budden]

Hold it down, stay safe, stay dangerous, all of that. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Until the next time it go. Mm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just the one.

[Joe Budden]

What y' all want me to do? What y' all want me to do? Man, we of age. Pope. Where's the light? Shits out there?

[Big Parks]

You set up out there?

[Joe Budden]

No, we need it over there, Mark. Gotta go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We're always just.

[Joe Budden]

Crazy. Y' all. Hold it down, man. 30 and up. 40, enough. 50 and up. 60 and up. One verse, it goes. Look at Flip. Yo, Flip. You got to stop taking pictures of Maserato. Let's go. One chorus and we all going home, man. Shout out to the parents listening out.

[Big Parks]

There.

[Joe Budden]

Really enjoyed the musical selections this episode, huh?

[Corey]

It's a music pos.

[Joe Budden]

It is still a music part. And my boy is. It's snowing music now. I'm blasting Pete Bailey. Boy, you talking about. I'm playing that Pete Bailey and acting like I found it. Hey, what time out there? We killing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This the smoothest cheating song ever, huh? This the smoothest cheating song ever.

[Joe Budden]

It is well wild. Hey. Oh, I didn't even know the song was about cheating. Wow. School me so weird.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's real. All right.

[Joe Budden]

It's so weird. All right, all right. Enough, enough, enough, enough. I know. Come on, turn this off, man. I ain't going to do a whole episode about trying to propose and then play the cheating.

[Big Parks]

That's what you get.

[Joe Budden]

So real. All right.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Look at my son over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I'm still on that. You've never heard of Joe Bun? All right.