Episode 875 | "5%esque"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast — Episode 875 | "5%esque"

Date: November 5, 2025
Host: Joe Budden & The Joe Budden Network
Guests/Crew: Flip, Ish, Mark Lamont Hill, Big Parks, et al.

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode weaves together the crew's hilarious takes on current events, pop culture, music industry controversies, and personal stories, all with their signature mix of banter, insight, and wild tangents. Key themes include the mess of election day and voting, streaming and industry issues (notably the Spotify bots lawsuit), hip hop's need for infrastructure, the Drake and Kendrick dynamic, body/dad-bod jokes, AI in music, and lots of “show your receipts” masculinity and vulnerable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Election Day, Voting, & Black Engagement (00:30–14:00)

• Banter starts with election day: A lot of jokes about who’s voting, who isn’t (most didn’t), and why.
• Mark Lamont Hill hits at voter apathy:

  “There are a lot of people who are Democrats who might be a little skeptical ... Mamdani's gonna win sizably.” (06:38)
  The group discusses Cuomo, Sliwa, Trump, predictions for NY elections, and the strategic political deals (real or not).

• Non-voting jokes abound:

  Joe: "You gotta vote if you wanna be a politician." (05:08)
  Ish: “I used to run around in my mind just to seem like I’m a tough guy... That shit is expunged!” (01:16)

• Angela Rye gets a shoutout for political involvement and support.

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2. Halloween Antics & Celebrity Costumes (18:00–26:00)

• Haunted house tales: Ish admits to being scared, using women as a shield.
• Debate about Halloween costumes' boundaries: Bringing up Winnie Harlow's Whitney Houston impression and Megan Fox as Jackie Kennedy—was it in poor taste?
• Mark's quote:

  “If you getting dressed for Halloween, you gonna ask yourself, is this a good idea? It’s probably not.” (23:57)

• Flip: "There's a lot of white titty love going on up here today." (23:06)

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3. Drake & Spotify Bot Lawsuit Deep Dive (26:18–36:47)

• Mark breaks down RVX's lawsuit against Spotify for fake streams:
  • Drake not being sued, just used as an illustrative artist; places streams come from (lots of VPNs, free Spotify tiers).
  • The damage to “middle class and lower artists”—explained by the pooling of streaming revenue.
  • Mark:

    “They showed a time period... looking at just Drake’s music…where somebody would be listening for 23 hours. Unusual inflations.” (27:45)

  • Big Parks:

    “They're essentially taking money out of the pockets of people with lower numbers.” (29:25)

• Joe draws analogy to his own podcasting experience on Spotify, questioning fairness, and predicting more class action lawsuits in the future (35:40).
• Memorable moment:
  Flip: “All these tech companies are relying on inflated information and data to rise up their stock price.” (35:56)

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4. The Hip Hop Board/Game Changers (43:21–48:09)

• “If you had a hip hop artists’ union or board, who’d be on it?”
  • Names include: DJ Premier, Chuck D, 9th Wonder, Master P, Eric B, Punch/Top Dawg, Luke, Kevin Lyles, Nas, maybe Jay Z/Dre (“are they too close to the bank now?”).
  • Mark:

    “...at some point you run out of feel.”

• Point: Hip hop needs a board for artist rights, fair business, and representation from all regions and eras.

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5. World Series — Sports Wrap-Up (48:44–55:55)

• Mark and Joe go in-depth on the drama of Game 7, Toronto's heartbreak, the Dodgers' rise, Nike's "sequel" commercial, and whether the "Drake curse" is real.
• Mark:

  "And Ohtani didn't bomb them in game seven...They did it at the end of the game, which is what I loved." (51:55)

• Funny sidebar on Nike's sports branding (did they pre-tape Drake vs. Kendrick victory spots?).

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6. AI in Music — The Existential Threat (64:49–77:00)

• Joe stumbles onto an album he enjoys, only to realize mid-download that it’s AI-generated.
  • He plays a (generally well-received) AI track.
  • Flip & Parks debate: Is AI a tool for those lacking the skill (songwriters using AI vocals), or is it a threat to music careers as tech advances?
• Joe:

  "You can't just go steal Whitney's voice, Luther's voice." (66:32)

• Mark:

  "At some point, podcasting and journalism and paper writing ... all that shit is going to be gone if it goes down this road. And that just scares me." (72:23)

• Discussion on possible regulatory, compensation models—and whether fan connection to the person will keep human music afloat (74:45).

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7. Personal & Relationship Drama (80:01–104:42)

• Dejounte Murray rants online about his ex:
  • Group overviews his posts about being lied to, co-parenting drama, feeling used (“tried to pay any dollar for a production team, for content ... I'm a real man...”) (81:32–85:07).
  • Mark:

    “Stay off the Internet with this shit. ... You just don’t come off looking good when you do this.” (86:27)

• Transparency about past petty internet behavior:
  • Joe: “When I did Suck A** shit at 25, they said, look at this Suck A** n****.” (92:09)
  • Group shares their “petty tweets” & moments of relationship insecurity.
• Breakups & timing:
  • Rumors of Big Sean/Jhene separation spark a discussion about knowing when to move on:

    “It don’t take ten years to know if you want to spend your whole life with somebody.” — Joe (102:32)
    Mark: “How long does it take? About seven. Seven and a half.” (102:38)

• Joe on loyalty:

  “I judge people off of how we are in the foxhole. Word.” (160:59)

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8. Vulnerability — Royce da 5'9" Health Reveal (157:32–162:54)

• Joe and crew react to Royce's Rolling Stone interview discussing his lingual dystonia and challenges recording.

  “As a recording artist... this is one of the scariest things I’ve ever imagined somebody dealing with.” — Joe (158:24)

• Flip: “He can be a mouthpiece, no pun intended, to help someone else…”

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9. Tracy Morgan’s Love Life & The Kidney Question (123:39–130:21)

• Mark shares Tracy Morgan’s new relationship (he’s been through a lot — divorce, major payout, kidney transplant).
• Would you stay with someone forever if they gave you a kidney?
  • Group consensus: huge gratitude, probably financial support, but no, that isn’t a permanent obligation.

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10. Politics, Obama Dunks, and Dying Villains (131:43–155:34)

• Obama’s charm on the Jersey campaign trail:

  “You look cute, girl. But I’m married. Michelle’s fine, too.”

  • Group jokes on who could get away with such lines (Mark: “You can’t teach that charisma, bro.” (132:40))
• Dick Cheney’s death — To celebrate?
  • Mark takes victory laps over Cheney’s passing, listing war crimes, Halliburton ties, unapologetic.
  • Debate: Is it ever right to celebrate a death?

    “If your happiness is predicated on that, then rock out.”—Big Parks (106:27)

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11. Streaming, Content, and Platform Beef (115:07–121:38)

• Joe brings up a content creator drama drawn from bodybuilding YouTubers: When does self-promotion on a shared platform become a conflict?
  • Crew debates “what’s fair”—is it exploitation, or collaboration?

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12. Jokes, Banter & Body-Shaming Tangents (110:32 onward)

• Extended, escalating roast battle between Joe, Parks, Mark, and Ish about working out, body types, and whose physique is “badder.”
• “You look like Vinnie Chase.”
• “Your body’s not nice for two months. You ugly naked.” (112:27)
• “You let a put the Nair down there…” (131:33)
• Ish: “Yo, watch your mouth, that’s my wife.”
• Recurring inside joke about tickle fights and metrosexuality.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe: “If I got more numbers, I want to be paid more than more of these people... Don’t put me in that pot.” (29:07–30:41)
• Mark Lamont Hill: “My loudest voice isn’t always for the person who’s the worst. Sometimes it’s for the person being protected the most.” (153:21)
• Flip (re AI): “It’s hard to be that critical when we have been copy-pasting music for the past 30 years.” (74:47)
• Ish (on relationships): “She’s not gonna change unless they wanna change. And you have to look within what you might be missing in the home.” (85:26)
• Mark (on Obama’s charm): “You can’t teach that. You can’t duplicate that.” (132:45)
• Joe (on hip hop ‘board’): “If y’all were making y’all’s hip hop board... who would be on your board?” (43:21)
• Royce da 5'9" shout-out: “You are one of the strongest people I know. So even though this seems like the toughest battle in the universe, I think you got this.” (157:44)
• Comedy/Body shaming: “You wear tank tops in the pool. You wear shirts and hoodies in the pool. Don’t talk to me again.” (111:32)
• Jokes on Oprah-esque “Best crew in the world!” (16:32)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:14 — Ish on voter apathy and his mother roasting him over voting rights
• 06:14 — Mark breaks down Trump/Cuomo/Sliwa dynamics in NY mayoral race
• 26:18 — Drake, Spotify, RVX lawsuit, and bots
• 43:21 — What would a hip hop artists’ union look like?
• 48:44 — Dodgers-Blue Jays World Series recap and “Drake curse”
• 64:49 — Joe tries AI music, crew debates AI, art, and business
• 81:31 — Dejounte Murray’s social media relationship drama
• 102:32 — Big Sean/Jhene breakup, “How long does it take to know?”
• 123:39 — Tracy Morgan relationship, “Would you stay with a person forever for a kidney?”
• 131:43 — Obama on campaign trail, what can only a true charmer get away with
• 149:13 — Dick Cheney’s legacy, is it right to celebrate villain’s death?
• 157:32 — Royce 5’9” reveals neurological battle
• 160:59 — Joe on loyalty and “foxhole” friendships
• 166:04–179:45 — Sleepers/music picks (Joe: Yae Ali; Flip: Big L; Parks: J. Howell; Mark: Olivia Dean)
• 181:41 — Closing banter, future topics, jokes, and sign off

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Tone & Style

The original trademark tone is irreverent, boundary-pushing, often self-deprecating, brutally honest, and deeply inside-jokey. Emotional moments (like the Royce reveal) are allowed to breathe, breaking up the dense comedy and pop-culture commentary.

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Summary for New Listeners

This riotous episode is a prime cut of the Joe Budden Podcast’s style: thoughtful and combative, weaving the ridiculous and the profound. It’s current events, therapy, music biz masterclass—and barbershop roast—rolled into one. The roundtable is at its best on industry issues (Spotify's streaming mess, hip hop needing a union), but also dives deep on masculinity, relationships, and digital culture. Personal stories, scandalous anecdotes, and unpredictable jokes abound. If you ever wondered what it sounds like when a crew of music-loving, deeply opinionated friends argue, roast, and “tickle-fight” their way through the headlines—this is your episode.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Flip]

What's poppin?

[Ish]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How's everybody doing?

[Flip]

Feeling great, man.

[Joe Button]

Why'd you just do that with your voice?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. What was that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Ish]

He feels good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was feeling safe.

[Joe Button]

That's your election day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. Everybody ready?

[Joe Button]

What's up, man?

[Ish]

What's poppin?

[Joe Button]

What's poppin'?

[Ish]

Chilling.

[Flip]

What's good?

[Joe Button]

Flipping the building. Big Ish. Yeah.

[Ish]

I ain't vote, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't gonna say.

[Ish]

I know you. I know your judgmental eyes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You look like a non voter. Yeah, but I wasn't gonna say it.

[Ish]

I don't know where to start. I'm gonna. I'm gonna fix it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What state are you registered and don't vote in?

[Ish]

Well, I was registered in New York.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Nothing happened in there.

[Ish]

No, no, I had to fix it, man. I had to fix it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I used to run.

[Ish]

You know what it is? I used to run around in my mind just to seem like I'm a tough guy. Like, yo, I got a. I got a criminal history. I can't vote. Hug my bag. I'm not voting. That shit don't work. I got a youthful offenders nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That shit is expunged.

[Ish]

My mother said that shit is expunged. Boy, what you doing? And she said that in front of some niggas, too. It was roasting me. Some intellectual niggas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salute.

[Ish]

She like, nigga, your shit is expunged. If you don't take your ass up there and I gotta fix my shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's do it, man.

[Joe Button]

Mom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Donnie looking like he might need some help. I mean, he gonna win.

[Joe Button]

I mean, we've been up here talking about that. It's like you. Not like you were unaware.

[Ish]

Like, I know, man.

[Joe Button]

You've been outside every single day for the past.

[Flip]

You could probably make content out of it somehow.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Like, make a difference.

[Ish]

I will.

[Joe Button]

You 100 could have made content out of that. You made content out of. Homeboy was my man. The Asian. It's my man. That little Asian. I like that, too. But the mayor is bold.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like that, too.

[Joe Button]

The whole up. I didn't say it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know, I know. I'm with all that, but.

[Joe Button]

But you Got to make a difference. You got to use your voice and your platform to make a difference. First of all, we can't keep coming up here talking and talking to our audience the way that we talk. And come on. We can't prove Angela Ry in them, right?

[Ish]

Man, stop. First of all, shout out to Angela Ry. She show support and she show a lot of love, man. Salute, Mark. I really like Angela R. That's what's up.

[Joe Button]

2.

[Ish]

Stop watching, man. I post that shit like 8:30. At 9:00 o', clock, you supposed to be sleep.

[Joe Button]

You was in the street with homeboy. Then I seen you went to the stew. I'm like, find this little nigga around. But he's all right. I like him.

[Ish]

I like him. Yeah, shout out to my man.

[Joe Button]

Listen, man. Who voted Parks.

[Flip]

I did not.

[Ish]

Say something to the white man, Mark. Say something to the white man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I assume you go vote afterward.

[Joe Button]

Wait, so well, and it's different for him.

[Ish]

That's judgment. What does that call Ish.

[Joe Button]

Things are already going according to plan.

[Ish]

You profile.

[Joe Button]

They're not. And they're not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm judging him, too.

[Ish]

You just profiled me. So you profiling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I knew you. Cause you bragged about not voting for president. People usually vote for president and then vote less on the other elections. If you didn't vote for president, I knew you wasn't voting for mayor or dog catcher or anything under that. Yeah, I thought he would vote once.

[Joe Button]

I seen Mom Donnie with Davies.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's true. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I was like, all right, now we reaching.

[Ish]

I mean, Milfy was trying to get me with Mom Donnie. You know what I'm saying? She was trying to work on Shout.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Out to the three of y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What Content. I mean, this nigga.

[Ish]

She booked my content. Watch your fucking line.

[Flip]

What's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Not the three of us. Two of us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you would just. She would watch. Got it.

[Ish]

She wouldn't be there. She'd be at home.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got it. Got it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the voting lines in New Jersey were long.

[Big Parks]

They were long.

[Joe Button]

I was happy to see it. Happy to see it. Gotta love that. Get out there.

[Ish]

Did you pull up with your driver or you drove yourself? How did you pull up?

[Joe Button]

Relax, relax.

[Ish]

If you pulled up in any fancy car, I snuffed you.

[Joe Button]

Hey, pull up on us. Are you crazy?

[Big Parks]

Whoever's gonna pull up, man, all his.

[Joe Button]

Cars, then you gotta find parking. Didn't that make.

[Ish]

No, you're not pulling up in a Rory. Have that up. We not letting you get on the cause. Then you have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then you pull up at 6am expecting shit.

[Big Parks]

You know where Joe Volt's at?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

You know Joe Volta. Nowhere where he is in threat of.

[Joe Button]

Any bodily harm that you could not be see. You come on here talking like you know me and you don't. We're not really friends.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Damn, it's dangerous. I'm repeating it too. Where it's dangerous, where I vote at. I'm not going to make it hot cuz my profile is risen. I know. My profile is risen. I know.

[Flip]

So is your address.

[Joe Button]

It wouldn't make sense for me. And what county you think I vote on?

[Ish]

Yes, you. What kind of. You think you voted Bergen?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Wrong.

[Ish]

Look, it's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's waiting.

[Flip]

Did you vote?

[Joe Button]

No. Oh.

[Ish]

And they try to make you a politician.

[Joe Button]

God, yeah.

[Ish]

And they trying to make you a politician. How dare you not vote? You don't sit up here. Come up here. You want to talk.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You got to vote if you want to be a politician.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You said you going to be a politician.

[Ish]

I'll vote for Ish.

[Joe Button]

Are you voting later?

[Big Parks]

Nah, I'm registered in another state.

[Ish]

Virginia.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you absentee from Virginia?

[Ish]

You registered in D.C. when you gonna vote Ish?

[Big Parks]

I'm not voting.

[Joe Button]

Got you. Well, you know what?

[Big Parks]

I didn't fill out the absentee ballot.

[Joe Button]

Y' all were right. We should have started with Drake and Spotify.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I tried to tell you, let's go nowhere.

[Joe Button]

Hey, but I said I don't want to bring it up cuz I. I already. I already know. I already know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, shout out to everybody who did vot. And then, you know, the democracy depends on it. I like seeing mom Donnie out all weekend. He was at the hip hop club, the reggae club, about 2am I saw on Instagram he was in the gay club doing shots.

[Joe Button]

He was in the Knicks game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was in the Knicks game.

[Ish]

He's doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's walking around, he's hitting the streets and he's not taking it for granted. You don't take the win for granted. Which I appreciate it.

[Joe Button]

Mark, before we start this, cuz this is not a political podcast, but I do wanna ask you, do you think that the late Trump co sign and Cuomo trying to deny it will have any impact in the booth?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it's gonna be worse for Cuomo.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I don't think it's gonna help. I think the Republican. There are people who love Trump, who do whatever Trump says. And there's a dyed in the wool Republicans I think the people who already are Trumpers were gonna vote for Curtis Leeway anyway. Could Cuomo's number go up a little bit from that? Yes, but I think he loses on the other side. There are a lot of people who are Democrats who might be a little skeptical of.

[Joe Button]

You think all the Trumpers were voting Sliwa?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I think you were gonna see the early polls at Sliwa at 20 at. I'm sorry, had Cuomo at like 21 to 24% and Sliwa around 14 to 16%. That's a big number. And we're talking about New York.

[Joe Button]

It's huge.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We're talking about New York. Could Cuomo get a little bit of sleep? Sure. But I see a lot of people, Democrats, who are on the fence, who. When they say, if that's who Trump is for, that's not who I want. And it's gonna make them go Mamdani.

[Big Parks]

So, yeah, I agree with that. You don't think, though, the same effect could happen with the Sliwa people, like, where the people were Republican and because Trump endorsed Cuomo, he might pull a.

[Flip]

Little bit of them, maybe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause there are no real Sliwa people. There's like seven guardian angels left, everybody. If you vote for Sliwa, you just vote with Red, no matter what. You don't care if they're dead, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. You don't really give a fuck. So that's a different kind of position. But I think Hamadani's gonna win sizably. I think he's gonna get a big chunk of the vote. I don't think it's gonna be close. I think he's gonna be dancing and celebrating by 8:30.

[Ish]

By 2:30.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shitty. As soon as the polls close, he's.

[Joe Button]

Eating lunch like, yo, I'm good, right? My last question. Do you think if you were Sleever, would you have bowed out for the 10 mil that he says they offered him?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. I don't think they offered him 10 mil.

[Ish]

You're just making it sound good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Curtis. Fucking Curtis Lewin got two nickels to rub together, I promise you.

[Joe Button]

I definitely think they offered him 10 miles.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you think he's. Then why would he stay? He.

[Joe Button]

He.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He ain't got no money.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah. Old guardian angel.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He wanted.

[Ish]

He went to the train. He survived assassination.

[Joe Button]

God, he's tried to kill me. I'm on my. I'm living off principle in my marriage. I got the whole Angels behind me. I can't let him down.

[Ish]

All the old niggas nigga.

[Joe Button]

But do I think that they would have tried to pay him, thinking that that would make up the difference in. In the lead that mondami has overcome? 100%. If you feel like I'll take that 10 to 15% out and give Cuomo more of a shot, no matter what the early polls say, 10 million is. Is the drop.

[Ish]

Like bucket.

[Flip]

I don't think they offered him 10 million.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I don't think they. First of all, I don't think he cost. He ain't worth that.

[Joe Button]

They gave fucking Jasmine Sullivan 10 million to fucking go perform at the. I'm just making up names. But they. They gave Ari. They gave.

[Ish]

They gave 10 million, Andy.

[Joe Button]

If y' all knock it off with what they think about 10 million in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Political budgets, I don't think 10 million is too. That they can't afford it. I'm saying I don't think. I don't think they need to spend 10 million on Curtis Lee. I think 2 million in the sandwich should do it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, but we gonna OD and make it an offer that you can't refuse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, apparently he did. That's what. That's why I don't believe they offered it, because I don't see Curtis Lee would turn down $10 million. This is all speculation.

[Joe Button]

I think they paid Eric Adams, too. Allegedly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I know they paid. Allegedly.

[Joe Button]

Allegedly. Because I ain't not pleased.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Eric Adams again. It wasn't no 10 million they made. They gave him a great job.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I promised in the future a chopped cheese.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm taking. Some mixed tickets.

[Big Parks]

You think they gave him?

[Joe Button]

Well, we knew he could have been bought.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He gonna be in the Cliff Row. Eric Adams seats. It don't cost much to get to buy Eric Adams.

[Flip]

You don't think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he wasn't gonna win anyway.

[Joe Button]

Mark got everybody cheap. Yeah, but I could cause a disruption.

[Big Parks]

I could.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm with you, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He could have been bought, and his ego is so big, he'd rather bow out than lose anyway.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Big Parks]

Pay me, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, pay me. But I ain't.

[Joe Button]

10 million exchange voting. You lived in Jersey for 35 years. 30. Change your ID. Whatever you gotta go do, change it.

[Big Parks]

You gonna pay my insurance?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Now what? Give in now what?

[Ish]

Give it here.

[Joe Button]

I'll go show you tomorrow. Now you look stupid.

[Big Parks]

No milk.

[Joe Button]

Yes, I will. Yo, I think your vote matters.

[Big Parks]

Send it over.

[Joe Button]

So, yes, I paid the white van insurance.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In defensive. Ish. Virginia is a much more Important contesta state.

[Joe Button]

I know he from the era where niggas got their license in South Carolina so they could do the military. Insur. I know the area you from, but you think I don't know who he is?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I'm saying Virginia's also a purple state, like you might. Your vote matters more. Except I'm not sure you vote Democrat.

[Big Parks]

No, I should have did the absentee ballot, but I did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. As long as you vote the right way.

[Joe Button]

I like that.

[Ish]

You know, you go the right way, you know, you gonna vote the right.

[Joe Button]

Way and you want to be in politics.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about the other, you know.

[Ish]

Ain'T gonna be in politics. Ish. Are the stupid.

[Joe Button]

If you were able to vote in New York, who would you have voted?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I'm asking.

[Big Parks]

In New York City?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Big Parks]

I probably wouldn't have voted Cuomo.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay.

[Big Parks]

If I was able to vote in New Jersey. Mikey Sherrill all day. Mikey, Sheryl's fucked with a bunch of my niggas that was down bad, and she helped him a lot. Oh, she was one of the first people in that Obama convict.

[Joe Button]

Yo, what the fuck? Did you just pull a Honey Bunny out of here? What was that?

[Ish]

Yo, what did you just do? What the fuck you did?

[Joe Button]

Did you just pull.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I waited till I was off camera, and I moved the thing that was.

[Ish]

Causing the rattle nigga noise that it made.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you were headphones or you. It's been making noise the whole time.

[Ish]

I can hear right here.

[Joe Button]

Look, we talking about some really important stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mar.

[Joe Button]

Out of your pocket.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a bagel. It was a plain bagel, which is worse.

[Ish]

You threw it in the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't want to keep rattling, so I threw it so that y' all wouldn't hear it. It did not draw attention to it. But these two over there.

[Flip]

Ericson, I hope you got that in these.

[Ish]

This how we get rollers. You know, my man be here with his joint, pick that up, and they.

[Joe Button]

Had a little Debbie in his pocket. Get out and vote. That's it. That's all I got for y', all, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You guys think that women should vote?

[Flip]

Okay, seriously, though, I do think. I think that most women should not vote, but only because.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hear me out. I think the only people that should vote are single moms.

[Flip]

You know, they're the only people that deeply understand that if you pick the wrong guy, there are consequences.

[Joe Button]

Mic check 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Greatest broadcast in the world. You know what the fuck time it is right now? Shout out to wherever you might be listening from big Jersey My brick clean.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm riding dirty, my dick clean she.

[Joe Button]

Talk whole New York City what up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Out there, I'm about cream, I got.

[Joe Button]

Better cars, whole lot of dancers I take them everyone I'm MC Head selling I'm too legit to get when it's.

[Guest Artist]

Summertime, I'm pulling like a squad I'm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At the car, I'm going broke I pay for five, they front a couple.

[Ish]

More, you want about the dates, take.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them home like I do my hoes I dress them up, I buy glass slippers, I gas ho now she acting.

[Joe Button]

Brand new While you ass ho lim.

[Ish]

Shout to all the ladies out there.

[Joe Button]

Everybody in the night, my top back, I'm circumcised I pull it back just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To go inside Everybody in the car right now no matter where you living.

[Ish]

It from I got my thing got.

[Joe Button]

Black Batmobile, it's only new Ferrari.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My gun dirty, my brick clean, I'm riding dirty, my dick dirty Hammer, I'm about shout out to all the dope boys out there, all the strip clubs out.

[Ish]

There and what's going on?

[Joe Button]

What's going on out there Whole BS Everybody out of college right now, all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The parents right now My motherfucking pet, I pointed at you and tell that I'm the good she got her legs on my neck yes, sir, mountain ass Call that triple threat When I was in jail she let me call her collect but if she get greedy, I' ma stall for the death top down the world, dog, it ain't done.

[Ish]

I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got a bed on the check the guns are drawn and I ain't talking about a sketch I pay these niggas with a reality check Preparing for the worst but still praying for the best this game is a bitch I got my hand up my dress the money don't sleep then we need to rest and AK47 this my fucking address they.

[Joe Button]

Go I'm not a star, somebody lied I got a chopper in the car I got a chopper in the car.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got a chopper in the whole thing Home, Connecticut, let's go. Remember me like John Lennon, Browning, Louis.

[Joe Button]

Big black nigga in the icy watch, icy shoes on the coupe bitch I.

[Ish]

Got a Nike shot Nike count the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Profits, you could bring them in the.

[Joe Button]

Nike box Grinding in my Jordans Kick.

[Ish]

Them off, they Mikey Wild.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Keep this.

[Joe Button]

Applause going for the best crew in the world right quick Y' all know is y' all know who we be Y' all know what time it is. Y' all know what we're here to do, man, let me get these drops out the way real quick. And Flip, Flip, Flip, Flip. What episode is this?

[Flip]

875.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 875 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fuel by Power by Prize Picks. Prize picks. Gang, here I'm your humble grace grateful. Happy to be here, host Joe Button here with the best crew in the motherfucking world. You know who we are. You know what we here to do. To my right, queens. Get the money.

[Big Parks]

Queens.

[Joe Button]

Flip is in the building to his right, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. Huh? Y' all know the vibes, huh? Big Ish in the building next to him, our good brother Dr. Dark, Lamont Hill. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building, makes the noise next to him. You already know Elmira's finest Big Parks in the building next to him. We got Po, we got Corey, we got Erickson, we got Ten and Savon here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Shout out to our brother Ice, here with us in spirit. He is home with a stomachache. He's got a boo boo.

[Flip]

A tummy.

[Joe Button]

He woke up with a boo boo. Shout out to our good brother Ice, always here with us.

[Flip]

Corday whooped his ass, huh?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, man. Yeah, man. How's everybody doing? How's everybody doing? How y' all feeling?

[Ish]

What's poppin feeling?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Actually, yeah.

[Flip]

What y' all did over the weekend? Anything exciting?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nothing exciting, man.

[Joe Button]

Home playing with the temperature thingy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. No. No Halloween parties. Nothing.

[Flip]

I went out with my wife a little bit. We had a good time. Went to Chicago afterwards. Went to some hip hop, shot to Fillmore Green.

[Joe Button]

Big old.

[Flip]

Had a big festival out in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In.

[Flip]

In Chicago. Something like Sky Zoo was there. They did a Beat Battle. I was there with Lars Pro and Paula Brown and a bunch of other people judging Beat Battle. It was probably like it might have been 50 artists on that bill. It was dope.

[Joe Button]

Wow. Good time.

[Flip]

Shout out to Chicago Fire.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Large Pro. Shout out to Sky Zoo. Shout out to the guys.

[Flip]

Yeah, man, it was blast.

[Joe Button]

I didn't go out for Halloween at all. No, not at all.

[Flip]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

I knew about some parties.

[Flip]

It was lit outside. We were supposed to come to Jersey, but then we had to fly early in the morning, so we ended up just staying in.

[Joe Button]

In.

[Flip]

In Astoria.

[Joe Button]

I think my days of going out to party while everyone can wear a mask might be done. Might might be done. Y' all have. Have a have at it. Though I stayed on, caught up on my favorite shows. I was tired.

[Flip]

Not bad.

[Joe Button]

It was a work day. Work beat my ass that day.

[Flip]

That's a fact. I was tired.

[Joe Button]

But shout out to everybody. Had a great time for Halloween. I did want to ask y', all, what did y' all do following Flip Ish?

[Ish]

I went to a haunted house. Were you scared of State? Pure terror.

[Flip]

Were you scared?

[Ish]

Yeah, I mean, I filmed it. It was. It was. It was scary. It was scary. I was throwing the ladies in the front, and I'm saying. Yeah, I was. I'm not. I don't want them touching me. I don't know. They was just jumping out of nowhere.

[Flip]

So you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But through the women.

[Joe Button]

Want some New Jack City, huh? Picked up, picked up, picked up the baby. What you said that was a new Jackson.

[Ish]

I did. I did. Yeah. No, I think. I think. I think it was lit, man. I think I had fun. A lot of people. Invited a lot of people out, and we went to the haunted house. It was a great experience, man.

[Flip]

Nice.

[Joe Button]

Dope.

[Ish]

A little scary for me, you know, as an adult. I don't like to be scared like that, but it was dope.

[Flip]

So you're a.

[Joe Button]

Are you ticklish?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm ticklish.

[Flip]

You look a little ticklish.

[Big Parks]

I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Big teletubby ass, but it's weird to be ticklish.

[Ish]

You look ticklish, too. That's why you want the white touching your neck.

[Guest Artist]

Neck.

[Ish]

None of that. You look ticklish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Flip]

You trying to touch his neck?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How do you know this word?

[Ish]

Cause when I try to give him a hug, my hand go behind the crevice.

[Joe Button]

I didn't know y' all hug like that. Y' all do those.

[Ish]

Don't hug like that.

[Joe Button]

Y' all do different hugs. Come over here.

[Big Parks]

Yo, get away from me, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like this, look.

[Ish]

Nah, I'm good, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I go like that.

[Ish]

Be tinglish, yo.

[Joe Button]

Be tinglish.

[Flip]

You learn something new about your co host.

[Joe Button]

Every single word.

[Ish]

That was dope, though, man.

[Joe Button]

What did you.

[Ish]

You was in the house.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't. I had travel plans on Saturday, and Newark undermined them, so I was trying to head to Virginia for. For d' Angelo's funeral, but the. The travel just. It didn't.

[Flip]

It was fucked up for me. They canceled my flight on the way. Like, we checked in already, and they canceled my flight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. And that's basically what happened to me on my way to Richmond.

[Big Parks]

They just show Houston three hour wait for tsa. It was just motherfuckers standing there with their kid. Like it was a lot, bro. Three hours.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't standing nowhere with my kid for three hours.

[Joe Button]

Torture.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

On Sunday, I was able to at least take them to the zoo. My daughter came up with her children. So I had my two grandkids and their Uncle Malcolm. Who? Their three year old uncle. We all hung out at Turtleback Zoo and it was good to just spend a day with them. I cooked for them, we hung out, spend some time. It's good to be with family sometimes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. What'd you say? And the Animal Slaves.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't watch too many Animal Slaves. We just fed the goats and then played in the playground.

[Ish]

What you been monk? You say you cook for them?

[Joe Button]

Crazy. Yo, Something wrong with this guy. He's right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't say nothing.

[Ish]

What'd you say? I said, what did you make? You said you cooked for them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, what did I make? I made some shrimp scampi. I made some crab cakes. I made fried some chicken.

[Flip]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just some things kids want, Chef Mark.

[Ish]

Okay, all right.

[Joe Button]

You know what? You guys don't even deserve how interesting we are. That's enough.

[Ish]

Enough.

[Joe Button]

That's enough of what we did.

[Big Parks]

Wow.

[Ish]

Shit.

[Joe Button]

Too late for you to know where y' all want to start? Where do y' all want to start?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know where we gotta start.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait. I do want to ask y', all, before we move on, I had a question about Halloween. Cause I saw a few people getting their ass kicked after Halloween about their costume choices. One of those people was Winnie Harlow. Shout out to her. She chose to be Whitney Houston, but.

[Flip]

It was, you know, some of those.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you know, and I saw one of the white. One of the white ladies. I don't remember her name, but she was.

[Flip]

Heidi Klum.

[Joe Button]

No, no. Heidi Klum was Medusa. Heidi Klum was Medusa. Heidi Klum kills every year. Don't put no smut on Heidi Klum.

[Flip]

Heidi Klum.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hive.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, Heidi Klum for Halloween does.

[Flip]

I was underwear. That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Heidi Klumoween or some shit where every.

[Flip]

Year she goes crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's like movie design, movie costume type. Every year now I seem like that guy.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

After the city thing, it's a lot of white titty love going on up here today. And I think that's cool, man. I think that's cool.

[Joe Button]

I hate you guys.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Big Parks]

Now I want to hear the criticism somebody else.

[Joe Button]

I don't now. I got a brain freeze.

[Big Parks]

They dis Wendy Harlow.

[Joe Button]

And they was on her ass for her being Whitney Houston. You know, during the Wendy interview.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It wasn't just Whitney.

[Joe Button]

It was bad Whitney. Yeah, right. It was bad Whitney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Which is not okay.

[Joe Button]

But one of those white ladies was a victim. Like, somebody got stabbed. Damn it. And the dreads had blood all over. And they was on her ass because. How could you be so insensitive? It's like, before this part is over, it's gonna come back to me. That's gonna bother me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To me. If you getting dressed for Halloween, you gonna ask yourself, is this a good idea? It's probably not. Like, just in general. Just don't do nothing dumb. I like a good joke, though. I like a good joke, even if it crosses the line a little bit. As long as it's not picking. Like, being a random murder victim is different than being a Jeffrey Dahmer victim. You know what I'm saying? Don't pick on anybody in particular but a little Fox.

[Flip]

Julia Fox.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Julia Foxx. Julia Foxx. Okay.

[Joe Button]

I knew it was somebody we love, too. We?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What do you mean, we? White man.

[Joe Button]

Let me see y'.

[Big Parks]

All. Don't.

[Joe Button]

With Julia Fox.

[Flip]

That's kind of old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Love is just a strong word.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, I'm not talking about her name. I'm not talking about her. What are you talking about? I'm not.

[Ish]

Not Julian Roberts.

[Joe Button]

I'm talking about an actress. Julia Roberts. No. There's a Fox.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Megan.

[Joe Button]

Must be Megan Fox.

[Flip]

Ah, we like her, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, she's cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She cool.

[Joe Button]

Oh, y' all scaring me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just got a whole list over.

[Ish]

There we don't know about Julia Fox.

[Joe Button]

Megan Fox is not on my list. Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Just so we're clear, Megan Fox is nice.

[Ish]

She played John F. She dressed up as John F. Kennedy's wife after the assassination. She has blood all over the pink. Her pink outfit. And the family's going crazy again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's kind of far. She's a real person.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

So you can't be real people, fam.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's Jackie Kennedy mocking their tragedies. That's they.

[Big Parks]

Whitney Houston, her husband got shot and his blood is on her dress. And she dressed up as that.

[Joe Button]

I think that's a little excessive.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My nigga. And white people love them some Kennedys.

[Flip]

What?

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that's creative?

[Joe Button]

No, I'm not saying that.

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it's insensitive.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I think so.

[Joe Button]

I think it's insensitive.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I also don't know how many people on Halloween are thinking about, oh, the family of this victim. True.

[Big Parks]

So when you famous, though, it's a little different. Like if you was going, well, because.

[Joe Button]

They'D be doing Halloween for the gram.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like if you just put your outfit on, went to the local bars, went to the parties. I absolutely love the what we doing, what we do in New York, the thriller that. That the gay people do down there during the parade. I absolutely love that every single year they smoke that. Come on, make a gay joke, Mark. Come on.

[Flip]

We just said we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You said we. That's why I look. You said, I love what we do. We do the thing.

[Joe Button]

We as in New York. New York holds the space for that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I let it go. I didn't say nothing. I just made a face to punch.

[Joe Button]

Drake and Spotify.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Come on, come on. Drake and Spotify.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You wrote it up there. Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. That's what the fans want, man. They expect us to trash Drake right now, and I don't think we need to.

[Joe Button]

I totally disagree. I don't think that at all. I. I don't. I don't think that the audience is expecting this pod to come on us trash Drake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I could be wrong, but if.

[Joe Button]

You want to trash him, I. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have no desire to trash Drake. What I wanted. So rbx, rvx, the artist, the rapper.

[Joe Button]

I'll get my shades, nigga, I ain't gonna leave you out there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

RVX is if y' all don't know he's a rapper. OG rapper, Death Row affiliate, wrote some really important songs, was part of the chronic, part of a whole bunch of stuff. And he's Snoop's cousin. He sued Spotify and the basic allegations that Spotify is complicit in the use of bots to fake streams. And in the lawsuit, they mentioned one artist as an example. That is Drake. I want to stress Drake is not being sued. Drake is not being accused of any wrongdoing. Drake is just being used as an example to show how many, many streams are being produced, sometimes at things like bot farms, one of which was found in Turkey. And they're saying that maybe that a large number of the streams are fake and it harms the other artists who are not being inflated the same way. They showed a time period from, I think it was January 2022 until September of 2025, where they were looking at just Drake's music as example, and showing these unusual inflations, for example, where somebody would Be listening to Drake's music for 23 hours. And one of the major sources just to tie this up is irregular.

[Joe Button]

Irregular listening habits.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

It's from what Mark is saying, the. The Neo Geographic shit. Some of these streams are coming from places where no, there's no address. Nobody lives.

[Flip]

So they're all using VPNs. Yeah, that's a big thing too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And they're mostly tied to the free tier of Spotify, which is. So there's no credit card trace or anything like that.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that, that's how they're able to navigate finagle the system using the free tier. That's why I don't like free tiers on things.

[Joe Button]

And the free tier is not really.

[Flip]

It's not for you.

[Joe Button]

It's not really free. The free tier, that's a. That's a myth.

[Flip]

It is.

[Joe Button]

There's no such thing as a free tier.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Big Parks]

Explain.

[Joe Button]

Come, come one, come all. I don't know if I feel like it in this talk, maybe an hour too.

[Flip]

They're selling you more advertising. They're taking more data.

[Big Parks]

Oh, got you, got you, got you. But the actual patron.

[Joe Button]

I might jump out there and say it ain't. It ain't too far removed from being almost as valuable as the paid team. Probably more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I mean when I say because it's a hustle. And the argument is not that Spotify is necessarily making the fake streams, but they benefit so much from it that they're not.

[Ish]

They turn the side eye.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Because that's how they go to subscribe to advertisers and say, look, look at all these people we got listening. So they're incentivized to do it. The artists are incentivized not to stop it. And the only people really being harmed.

[Joe Button]

Are people lesser known.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lesser known artists.

[Flip]

Yeah, it's the middle class and lower artists.

[Big Parks]

How are they being harmed?

[Flip]

I explained this during a bunch of different times, but specifically during the Drake beef. That was one of my reasons why people might have an issue with them is what happens on Spotify in particular. But I think also Apple is they essentially pool tips, meaning, oh you did they take all the money from all of the streams and then look at who gets. Get what percentage of streams and divvy up the money that way. So if someone has an artificially inflated number, they're essentially taking money out of the pockets of people with lower numbers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is why RBX is suing.

[Joe Button]

And as one of the reasons I was leaving Spotify Well, I left Spotify. You can't take my numbers, put them in a pot with everybody else numbers and then divvy it up equally. No, it don't work like that. I'm not signing up for that. If I got more numbers I want to be paid than more of these people. I got enough numbers to be looked at in a whole different place. Don't put me in that pot so I get the lesser known. I understand exactly what he's saying.

[Big Parks]

But in that instance, you would be the beneficiary of that.

[Joe Button]

No, I would not. No, I would not.

[Big Parks]

Like Drake in that instance is the beneficiary.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, Right.

[Big Parks]

So if your numbers are the. Not saying your numbers are inflated, but if you had the higher numbers and they pool everything together, then you gonna get the line check.

[Joe Button]

In this instance, Drake would be the beneficiary because they have worked it out to pay him more.

[Big Parks]

Gotcha.

[Joe Button]

When I was there, everybody numbers go in the pot and we divvied this up equally or has how we see fit. There's no way for a creator to know their true worth in that system.

[Big Parks]

Because you don't ever see the numbers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, not the real.

[Ish]

They don't count for anything.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And they put all the numbers together.

[Joe Button]

They don't count for anything. If I'm carrying the ship, which I was. Yeah. No, I deserve the lion's share or to be looked at independently. However you source ads for everybody else should not and cannot apply to me.

[Big Parks]

Gotcha.

[Ish]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

According to some. I read some studies this morning on this and they. The. The most reliable studies I've seen suggest that maybe 10% of all these streams are fake across the board. So that's a. And that's the tune of tens of billions of dollars.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And if a bunk a bunch of them are going to one or two artists, that's also a problem. And that's what they're finding with these forums is that like 1% of people are accounting for it like a disease. Disproportionate number of the streams.

[Big Parks]

So it's justifiable though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Then it makes sense because if you just had streams for Joe Blow that would just inflate it, then you couldn't. It seems fake. You know what I'm saying? If it's Drake, if it's Kendrick, if it's Taylor, if it's those people that command a certain amount of streams, we're just gonna throw half a million a day over there to them. And then it seems.

[Joe Button]

And that's not. And that's not fair at all. If I'm relying on my song that I worked hard on and you got 30 stream farms. I'm just pulling numbers out of here. 30 stream farms working 23 hours out of a day. That ain't fair at all.

[Flip]

True. I agree.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think I just want.

[Ish]

I would want to, but shouldn't depend on the artist that's suing. I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rbx, what they say.

[Joe Button]

Class action suit, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's opened the door, but he wants it to become a class action, and.

[Joe Button]

It should be a class action, which is why I don't get where the your take about the fans wanting us to kick Drake's back in. This ain't to me really about Drake at all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. The reason why it becomes about Drake, and it should not be, is because he's the only artist named in the suit. And it's not clear from the lawsuit where they got their data from or why they only chose Drake to point to. So I think they think that we're gonna make the mistake that a lot of people have made in the last 24 hours, which is to misrepresent what happened. A lot of people are saying Drake is getting. Or that Drake was caught with bots. Neither of which is true. We're much more.

[Joe Button]

Well, he's not getting sued in this suit. Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's two others.

[Joe Button]

There's some other things going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, some other things. Right. But this one is not about Drake. It's interesting, though, and this is not a Drake diss at all. Again, it's just a matter of the chronology and the facts here is that when Drake started to talk about UMG and bots and how they were being used potentially to harm him, there were experts who said, hey, you might not want to lift that hood up. Because if you lift the hood up and start talking about who's using bots and whose streams are real and whose streams are not, you may find that there's a lot of fake ones on your side, too, that you may have nothing.

[Flip]

No knowledge of.

[Big Parks]

But, no, that's.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I don't think he does have any knowledge. I don't think Drake did anything wrong here. I just think the fact is a whole lot of people use bots. That's just part of the business.

[Big Parks]

No, I think that was his point. I think his point was dog, when they use them for me, I know how it looks. So, yeah, so I know that y' all using them for him. Cause I'm the nigga that. That they do it for, so I can identify when it's being done. I don't think he never necessarily denied that the shit is happening out here. He was saying like, my nigga, y' all do it for me. I'm the authority on this shit. I know how it is when an album is being pushed or with a button being pushed.

[Ish]

He's saying that when he did it, it wasn't at the expense of somebody else.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's what he's.

[Ish]

And to me, that interviews at the expense of him. I mean paying him a certain way, you know, so that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel that. Well, let me say this, let me not speak for myself. RBX is saying it is at someone else's expense. Cause every time you get more money from these fake streams, I'm getting less. Right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a fight. It's a zero sum game. Makes sense.

[Joe Button]

And he's correct.

[Big Parks]

And then way Parks explained that that makes total sense.

[Flip]

It's frustrating that all the. It's. Everything's digital. Everything could be paid out to who it should be paid out to without doing this extra shit. Yeah, it's a bad business model. An unfair business model.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wish the law. I only wish that the lawsuit had more names than Drake because this makes it about Drake. True again. And not about the system. Not about the broken system, not about the companies, not about the thieves.

[Joe Button]

There's also today you're pointing to the one guy who is probably most believable that all of these people with those songs. Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because there might be somebody listening to Drake 23 hours a day. Quite honestly somewhere in the world. That is the craziest thing.

[Joe Button]

But in fairness, the only way that.

[Flip]

This gets legs is if you do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

If we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If he.

[Flip]

If he points out whoever the fuck. Ariana Grande or something like that. This is a non story and it gets brushed under the rug. If you put someone who is already having a bot conversation, people like us will talk about it.

[Big Parks]

I think he should have picked like the. The Taylor Drake and blah blah, blah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

Like, you know what I'm saying?

[Big Parks]

They would have made it more just. Just the single hand.

[Ish]

More about the company.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Not singling out.

[Big Parks]

It's easy for the miscommunication to flow because now they gonna conflate the UMG issue with the Spotify issue and all of that.

[Joe Button]

I feel like I've been saying for the last. At least since 2018 that the future is gonna be filled with class action. Suits against the likes of a Spotify. And I won't name any other companies for now, but this ain't going to be the last of it.

[Flip]

So all these tech companies are relying on inflated information and data to rise up their stock price.

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Parks]

Ads all of that inflation of the numbers for them to do it.

[Ish]

The inflation of the numbers, it's just to get more revenue.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ish]

Like it still doesn't. It doesn't say that people are listening to you and because the payout is small. Right. What is this pay out? Like some.

[Flip]

It's something a fraction of a fraction of a penny.

[Ish]

So it's just to get them more money. I don't think it's taken away from anybody.

[Flip]

It's only to get more users so it looks like your. Your app is more viable so that more people invest so that you get more money for the stakeholders.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. You're selling the sizzle before you get the stake.

[Joe Button]

I'm such a bird. I cared way more about the Drake Gracie Bond news than this. I don't.

[Flip]

What's that news share.

[Big Parks]

Joe.

[Ish]

Yes. You're a bird. This is why they say that I'm.

[Joe Button]

Never gonna beat the allegation. But it's okay. Yeah. I mean that's what I'm here for.

[Flip]

Why? Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why be like if somebody else would do it, maybe I could take a backseat. But it. So Gracie Bond is the only fans entertainer slash Instagram model, the girl with the fat ass. Slash the girl that be on the Spanish. That Spanish talk show. And someone's phone is making some noise.

[Flip]

It's just calling Siri right now.

[Big Parks]

No, that was.

[Joe Button]

And not the girl with the fat ass. That was. Would be. That would be an understatement. She's went and got multiple rounds. She prides herself off of. She used to be huge in size. Got you.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

And then she went and got 20 million surgeries and now she looks the way she looks and she goes around and does for attention with her ass.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

So she is claiming that she linked with Drake.

[Flip]

And after.

[Joe Button]

After.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I saw this story.

[Joe Button]

She linked with Drake and after many promises he debted her and how could he. And in her story has blackballed her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

From the UK Party scene from the uk.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why girl, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm glad I saw this story.

[Big Parks]

I called you a bird.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I actually read every bit of this.

[Joe Button]

See.

[Flip]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

Mark, be down with me.

[Flip]

You say intellectual bird.

[Joe Button]

We can read each other's minds from separate locations.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm telling You. That is actually quite true.

[Joe Button]

But. So, yeah. How do we feel?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Flip]

I'm sorry that she went through that.

[Joe Button]

You guys don't care. First and foremost, do y' all think that Drake blackballed this girl from the UK nightlife scene?

[Ish]

Oh, man, no, Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not necessarily. It would not shock me if he was in a club one night and she was trying to get in and he was like, yo, I don't want her near me. And then she, you know, something very small could get blown up. I don't want to assume the worst about Drake.

[Joe Button]

Oh, well, I do. I 100% believe that he blackballed this big from. From the UK night scene.

[Flip]

Now, I want to hear both sides now. Well, she did.

[Ish]

That girl was moving around.

[Joe Button]

I also don't think there's nothing wrong with him doing that.

[Ish]

Is that bad?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It depends on what she did. You can't. You can't black somebody on somebody just because you don't fuck with him no more.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's. That's terrible.

[Joe Button]

People are terrible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I mean, okay, you can.

[Ish]

You shouldn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You shouldn't do that. Now, if she was a little stalky, I'm cool, man.

[Joe Button]

If you came over here acting dumb and acting stupid or you did something, not gonna pull the bottle trying to record me. If you did so, who knows what you could have did?

[Big Parks]

But making up lies, making up lies.

[Joe Button]

If you able to blackball somebody in they hood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's big.

[Joe Button]

Go for it. Go for it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, she just can't be outside no more. That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

She can be outside, she can't be inside.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She can't go to the club.

[Joe Button]

He ain't doing nothing. Her only fans check. He ain't. She has sources of income. She's still doing the Spanish news show. She ain't saying that I can't make any money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's a Spanish news show.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's not a news show, but.

[Joe Button]

It'S one of them talk shows.

[Ish]

And she's with the streamers in Death Durham.

[Big Parks]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's like, somebody's running for governor of New Jersey. But let me tell you about episode.

[Joe Button]

Three of this woman, I love you. Because you know, you've read. You admit to reading everything. I hate you.

[Ish]

But, yeah, listen, I follow.

[Joe Button]

I followed her on OnlyFans five rounds ago. Oh, shit, it was five rounds ago. Then you start doing too much.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You get addicted to it. Then you belong on mtv and now it just looks like a hot. A hot mess. But I support those Girls that used to be £700 and then they went and did some shit and now they just 300 pounds, but they pretty in the face and suck the dick. That's bad. No. Oh, okay.

[Flip]

Anyway, I mean, best of luck to.

[Joe Button]

I wouldn't have blackballed the girl.

[Ish]

She be with the streamers and stuff. She's still moving. I don't know what the. That black doesn't mean anything. I seen her. She's her only fans jumping like he said.

[Joe Button]

Yo, what's her lawsuit?

[Ish]

I was on it. She doesn't have a lawsuit.

[Big Parks]

I thought you said Drake.

[Joe Button]

It's just birds. She just in interviews chatting.

[Ish]

It's the bird section. Ish.

[Big Parks]

Got you.

[Flip]

Well, best of luck in her best of pursuits.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's why you got black ball.

[Big Parks]

What you in his interviews talking about that's powerful enough to make you stay your ass in the house.

[Joe Button]

Let's take it off them. Would any of y' all do it if y' all was up super powerful. You couldn't get in the city without talking to me. You gotta connect at every club, every hot spot in the city.

[Ish]

Are you from Colombia somewhere? Mexico somewhere? Yes. When you come here, wherever she's from, when you come here, put some respect on my name. Talk properly or you not gonna get into none of these spots.

[Joe Button]

Listen, niggas have done a lot worse. Some of us was there for when we first started fucking off Twitter and Instagram. Like when we first realized we could y' all off of these apps. Like, some of us was the. I don't wanna say the Christopher Columbus of that, because that would be the wrong. Wrong terminology. But, you know.

[Ish]

Was.

[Joe Button]

Was pulling up, picking y' all up at the train with binoculars looking. No, it wasn't binoculars pulling off on you hoes. You hoes will be showing up a nickel and some gum by the corner store. You and. And duck dub, you're done. You're done now. Make it home, get off the property, get out the gated community. It was nuts back then.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

09 was the time, so.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So the black ball thing, it ain't the worst thing I've heard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry, I'm not black enough ball nobody unless they. I've had people. Like, I've had stalkers. So, like, when I had stalkers, yeah, I would blackball you. You couldn't come to nothing. But other than that, if I just.

[Flip]

Come to see it no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was in different places back then.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Be like, nah, that's why they gotta mace you when they catch you, boy, stop him. Hey, that boy moved he quicker. Hey, you change.

[Ish]

You change your address.

[Joe Button]

I tried calling, but we'll do it this way now.

[Ish]

He do move fast.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Flip]

Club no more.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Shout out to all parties involved. Man, may you not get blackballed from whatever city you're trying to sell in.

[Ish]

Oh, come on, man. God damn.

[Joe Button]

I'm not talking about her. I don't know if she's selling. And it don't even matter because once you get blackballed from selling in one city, you never mind.

[Ish]

She started turning up on her too. Are you right? Because that was all her shit. She went a little crazy. You gotta get off. Come on.

[Joe Button]

This is a music podcast. Come on, let's move on. Let's move on. All right. So is there any music? Ain't no fucking music.

[Flip]

Not really.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, no.

[Joe Button]

I do have music questions for y'.

[Guest Artist]

All.

[Ish]

Please.

[Flip]

Okay, let's do it.

[Joe Button]

Cause we do all this hootenanny about. Well, I have done all this hoot nanny about wanting there to be some type of hip hop artists union or de facto board and board members and gatekeepers of sorts, but people to speak in our better half and raise money and do all the things that leaders and board members do. If y' all were making y' all's hip hop board, let's say consisting of 12 people, 10 people even. Okay, who would be on your board?

[Flip]

I would start by taking something like some. I would have a producer. Mc.

[Joe Button]

I want names.

[Ish]

I mean, I know.

[Flip]

I'm thinking Preem would be my producer.

[Big Parks]

Masterpiece.

[Joe Button]

Wait, one at a time, please.

[Flip]

I'm voting pre. Pream's gotta be on that board.

[Joe Button]

Prem's on my list as well.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'm going.

[Joe Button]

Chuck D, Master P. Chuck D is on my list as well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You said Master P. Master P would.

[Joe Button]

Be on my honorable mention. I might put him in there. I gotta see what other names I come up with. I put Knife Wonder.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, that's a great one.

[Flip]

That should be there.

[Joe Button]

Put 9th wonder for sure.

[Big Parks]

What's your board. What is your board predicated on?

[Joe Button]

What do you mean?

[Big Parks]

Just fairness in the music business or what? Like, I don't understand what the board is being. What's. What's the objective of the board?

[Joe Button]

Artist rights. Let's call it artist rights.

[Big Parks]

Gotta put Master P on the board.

[Joe Button]

Well, it's your board.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm not really a hip hop guy, but I. But from what I learned from him, I put. I put Eric B on there.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish]

Just of how you handle his business behind the scenes of what I seen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's interesting.

[Flip]

Need some execs. I think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely Jimmy Iovine. I'm kidding.

[Joe Button]

I just kicked you right out. Malcolm X, me and you were having. Even though my answer might be frowned upon too. I'll put Kevin Lyles in that list.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I put Kevin Lyles on that list.

[Big Parks]

Why is it frowned upon?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not a bad one.

[Joe Button]

If you got reasons, I won't say it.

[Big Parks]

Oh, gotcha.

[Joe Button]

I mean, he was only responsible for running what I think is the most successful rap label to ever live at the time where I. I think it was the best rap label to ever exist.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If he could play nice with others, Dame Dash wouldn't be a bad choice.

[Big Parks]

Dame wouldn't be bad.

[Joe Button]

Can't put him.

[Flip]

That's a big asterisk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Can't put him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but that. But that would be the same vein. I was thinking he'd be fighting fiercely for the rights. It's just so. Yeah. No, but that's dope. A hip hop board is not a bad idea.

[Flip]

It's not bad. We need west coast representatives and Southern representatives. For sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Probably Punch or Top. Someone from over there, I think would be.

[Joe Button]

I'm not.

[Flip]

Or Dre or both.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I wouldn't be mad at Luke.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I was just thinking. Just as you said. Southern.

[Joe Button]

Yep.

[Big Parks]

Luke would be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Luke will be a good one. We already got Knife. I mean that. So there's this.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Somebody from that Atlanta.

[Flip]

You definitely need a bunch of. Atlanta.

[Big Parks]

You need something.

[Flip]

I'm not mad at Gucci.

[Ish]

Gucci, man. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Shaka.

[Ish]

That want this board to get shot. It's a couple of y' all saying a couple.

[Flip]

You need that, though. You need some people in there to shake some up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

But it also could.

[Joe Button]

You could kick rocks. Which I would put that on my board. He's crazy. What. Shout out to him.

[Ish]

He made a lot of artists.

[Joe Button]

It's not about that. Only in this board conversation. I'm shock. I ain't say Jay Z yet. There's a few names that.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Parks]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

Hasn't. Not for sure. For me. I would. Names. Where you go behind that door.

[Flip]

Nas got to be there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nas. Yes. Jay and Dre would be. I'd have. I'd be concerned with. There's some point where I think. Think as artists, you might worry that the person is so close to the bank that they become the bank. Like. Like you want people representing the everyday artists and if. If you become too much of an exec and you're up too much, it's almost like you. Not us, no more. I'm not saying that's the case for them, but I could see how artists would feel that way.

[Ish]

Do you feel like I'm too scared.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of them to say that people.

[Ish]

Do you feel like a person like Jay or Nas? Because Nas come off that he still has ties to the neighborhood or to the art?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nas, I would say yes.

[Ish]

Do you feel okay? So you just saying with Jay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm Saying Jay and Dr. Dre, I would be more.

[Ish]

You know, because they have exceeded not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just cause of how successful they've been, but, like, there's a way that they are the execs. You know what I mean? It's like. It's like in a school, there's a teacher's union, but principals can't be part of the teacher's union.

[Ish]

Facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Even though they still need to be protected.

[Ish]

They may have started as a teacher too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. But still, like, there's a way that we got different interests right now.

[Guest Artist]

Now.

[Ish]

Got you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I can see how an artist might feel like me and Dr. Dre have different interests.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me and G. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Fair. Not. Not a bad board, though.

[Flip]

Not a bad boy.

[Joe Button]

We come up with a lot of the same names. I'm not mad at that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Watch me get a call over this fake board. Oh, you getting a call?

[Flip]

I'm sure we omitted a ton of people that deserve to be on the board. And apologies.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I got more board names, man. Please don't call me with none of the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The hoot.

[Joe Button]

Nanny.

[Flip]

That's a hard one to just freestyle, too, you know what I mean? Like, we just came in with it.

[Ish]

He didn't give y' all time to write it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What else is important? What else is important?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I really. Because we were talking about Drake, and you can't talk about Drake without talking about Kendrick, apparently. At the end of the.

[Joe Button]

This. What happens when he the only one that could read that board?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At the end of. At the end of the world. No, it's just at the end of the world. First of all, the World Series was amazing game set.

[Ish]

It was.

[Joe Button]

It was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know Joe watches. I text him during the end day of the. I don't know if the rest of y' all saw it.

[Flip]

I watched bits and pieces of it, but the last.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you missed the game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it was a game of games. This is one of the better game sevens. I've Ever seen.

[Joe Button]

I asked my dad to start in that game. I'd love to hear some of the series that he thinks are better than this one. I'm not ready to say that it's the best or one of the best game or the best game seven. But it's up there for the ones I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, that one, that game is up there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Red Sox, Yankees. When, when the Sox came back was important, but it wasn't a nail biter. What made this great was that the whole series was a nail biter. There was an 18 inning game in this series. Both teams were on the ropes. Both teams had chances to be champions. It went down to the eighth inning, the ninth inning, I mean every inning. I mean both teams had basically they traded bases loaded and got out of it with phenomenal plays where one mistake, I mean it was, I mean the chess match from pitching, you know what I mean? Including that basic intentional walk to get the double play at the end. It was not a real intentional walk but it basically was when he was pitching wide outside the whole time. Yamamoto, who looked tired and had just played the night before.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I was watching your timeline during the game and you were tweeting. What I was thinking was, yo, yo, Momoto better get outta here. He look a little off. Yeah, but that must have been for like a short stretch cause then I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T know what happened. 10 seconds left, they couldn't touch him. That motherfucker turned to tap Z Rose.

[Big Parks]

What the fuck are you.

[Joe Button]

They couldn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, he was painting the edges of the quarters. He was killing them.

[Ish]

Turn into Tom Steven.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, hold the.

[Joe Button]

Nah, he went off. Listen, I know it was a good series cuz I. This was one of the only times I felt like the better team lost. Yeah, there's no way I thought the Dodgers were going to win that game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't either.

[Joe Button]

It didn't feel like that. Every time they showed the Dodgers dugout they look defeated and depressed and then that. The fucking home run from homeboy who hadn't had a hit in a month.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And change and hadn't hit a left handed.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it was, it was like then there's momentum, then it's momentum. I'm just impressed with Toronto's ability to put ball to bat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

And if homeboy was a little faster.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Hey. They went, oh, it had to be tough. It had to be tough. It had to be tough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Blue Jays fans.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I got nothing to be fucking sorry about. That was a great game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you had chances. I mean, you could have won game six.

[Joe Button]

But that's why I'm sick if I'm numb. The 18 inning game loss.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Along with the game six loss, that maybe shouldn't have been a loss. Right. And then to have that game seven.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go like that and you give a running game run. But they gave a running 8th, 8th and 9th. I mean, they had every chance to be champions and they didn't win. I mean, at some point you gotta just applaud LA and say they did.

[Joe Button]

So close to Japan. Go la, man. Wow. You guys, you guys, you did it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You nailed it.

[Joe Button]

And I don't want to be that guy, especially as a Yankee fan. Right. They, they paid. They paid for what they got and they got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And Ohtani didn't, didn't bomb them in game nine. I mean, in game seven, he actually, he's the one that gave up the run in them two and a half innings and didn't hit and was in scoring position and didn't get the. He didn't get a walk off. He didn't even get a hit. He didn't get on base. I don't think the last two times he was out. So look, they did it at the end of the game though, which is what I loved. Did y' all see the Nike commercial at the end of this game?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was one of the best commercials I've seen in a long time. It starts off, it's like right after the game is over, it immediately jumps to LA on the screen.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's. It's put in like a. It looks like a movie, like a home movie, kind of old school movie style.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it starts with a clip of I love LA playing.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then it cuts off. Cause that's. Which of course is the classic LA victory song and the one they played last year when they won. And then it jumps to Squabble up and it says LA loves a good sequel. And then they run the credits like a movie with all the players and all the positions, but it looks like movie credits. And it was amazing. Some of the Drake fans were like, this is another Drake. This. Which was ridiculous.

[Big Parks]

Do you think they had. Cause you know, typically they'll have the T shirts, the hats, all that shit just pre printed.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh yeah.

[Big Parks]

So do you think if Toronto would have won, they would have had a Drake similar joint already?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pre D? That's an interesting question.

[Ish]

You get what I'm saying?

[Big Parks]

Like that would have been if I'm Nike. Drake has Nike. You know what I'm saying I think that they had that already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that's why some people were mad too. They were like, drake has a deal with Nike. Why is Nike playing Kendrick when LA wins? To me, the answer is obvious. It's fucking la. They won.

[Big Parks]

The Dodgers are bigger than Drake.

[Joe Button]

Shh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't tell Drake fans that. But. But. Yes, but people were talking about that. But I think a Drake song would have been great.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I think they probably already had both of them on deck.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because they definitely have. West Africa is filled with Toronto Blue Jays, World Series stuff right now.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's nigga Sierra Leone right now. Thinking.

[Big Parks]

St. Elizabeth right now with some.

[Ish]

Toronto Blue Jays on that. Jamaica.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That's where they send the to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what they send. They send it to the Caribbean and West Africa usually when the. The. The. That didn't work out.

[Joe Button]

And now they back talking about the Drake curse in sports.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. Because he was there game six. Like, we gonna bring it home. He had his Toronto accent on and everything. Like, we gonna bring it home. Let's get him out of here.

[Joe Button]

First time in the stadium, Really? I don't know. I'm talking shit probably though. I ain't never seen him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know if he'd been a stadium before, but he definitely was on. On social media saying, we gonna win tonight. Which he should. I mean, again, people find excuses to diss Drake. There are silly to me, but people were trying to make the Dodgers Blue Jays another Kendrick Drake. Drake Battle.

[Joe Button]

Did you see the Ohtani sub back? No, back to Drake at the end when he was like at the bar. What did he say? This is a really big team and we have some really big rings.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Flip]

Shout out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I respect that. I love it.

[Joe Button]

I love it. I love it, man. Congratulations to the Dodgers for sure. Magic Johnson, that entire ownership group, the players. Fucking Freddie Freedman. Fucking. What's my man name that said he retired. Who retired now?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, Kercho Kershaw. Oh, is it. How do you pronounce it?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. He said. He said he's retiring.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he. I think he is. You can't go out better.

[Joe Button]

Probably should retire.

[Big Parks]

It's not a bad way to go out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, too man.

[Big Parks]

Put your hand in the air, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And Magic said this is 18th ring.

[Joe Button]

That was impressive.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Dam. Yep. That was impressive from the Magic.

[Big Parks]

From basketball, soccer.

[Flip]

He got them shits on his toes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what he said. That's literally what he said. He said, I need my toes down. Start laughing.

[Joe Button]

Crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. He's a winner.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah, he is. Congrats, Magic Johnson.

[Flip]

Yeah, congrats to la.

[Joe Button]

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[Mark Lamont Hill]

So, caca, why do you assume that?

[Joe Button]

Yo, there's no albums, there's no new. What is an AI album I bought. But we can talk about it later. But listen, what do you want us to do? There's no substance out there. We voted. And now this substance.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I see substance here. Okay, I was looking at the Wall Street Journal and the London School of Economics monthly weekly Journal.

[Flip]

Yeah, sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I saw Jalen Green and Draya.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And as they zoomed into Jalen Green.

[Joe Button]

She made an investment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, she made a huge investment.

[Flip]

And it's returning.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And behind his long mane was a life size tattoo damn near of Draya. Her whole face on his back.

[Flip]

That's a choice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a choice. And look, more power to you.

[Ish]

That's the fire.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please explain to me. Flip, break it down for Me, Please.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ish]

Listen, there's some veterans out here that once they come into the field, they know what to do and how to do it and how to get you to do things that you never imagined on doing.

[Joe Button]

Mark. No. You got a tramp there.

[Ish]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you got a old name written down there somewhere.

[Ish]

Yeah, so she's one of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, man, it's just. I don't know who mentors Jalen. And look, if he's in love and he's happy, more power to you. Dreya, right?

[Flip]

That's his wife. Mentor.

[Joe Button]

Ta da.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ta da. But, Lord, getting there with somebody's whole face on your back, that just never works out well.

[Joe Button]

I mean, you can always cover it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a lot to cover.

[Flip]

Or just change the face up a little bit. First of all, a lot of these girls kind of look the same anyway, so, like, there's mad dream look alike.

[Joe Button]

Hey, yo, that's hilarious, dog.

[Ish]

No, that shouldn't be what she would have.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't have a take on it too. Too many people. Too many people I know do this. What? Like this is common. Get. Get tattoos of their significant other. Pictures of their significant other.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, People you know?

[Joe Button]

No, just people I've seen. I'm saying I've seen it done is what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Then again, I don't really investigate my friend's tattoo choices.

[Ish]

Some of us get, you know, area lazy, so. You know what I mean? They.

[Flip]

Some of us.

[Joe Button]

Are you.

[Flip]

Are you on a New Jersey flip?

[Ish]

I'm about to be. I'm about to be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, you about to get the. You about to get the laser?

[Ish]

Yeah, my wife want it, man, I got to do. I got to do what I got to do. You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just can't see you doing that.

[Ish]

Why not? I'm hairy.

[Joe Button]

That's enough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not doubting your eligibility for it. That's very metrosexual.

[Joe Button]

It would grow back by the time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He saw her again.

[Ish]

That's why you sweating, you ass. Look at you stretch.

[Flip]

You see?

[Ish]

That's why you sweating.

[Joe Button]

Look at you.

[Ish]

It's cold in here. You sweating. You got cold sweats. Watch your fucking watch over my wife.

[Joe Button]

Like that. That's my fault.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my fault.

[Joe Button]

Apologize. I'm sorry.

[Ish]

Why you think you could just say that? I can't say anything.

[Joe Button]

You can say what you want.

[Ish]

You wait till the right moment.

[Joe Button]

You can say whatever you want.

[Ish]

Last year or the year before when I Had the. The We. It's a big blow up. I share something with you, and now you crack a lot of jokes.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, I thought I was just. This was just my comedic genius. I didn't know I was saying something you shared with me. I thought I was just Richard Pryor with this. My bad.

[Big Parks]

I'll turn down you just try to tickle another man.

[Ish]

No, I try to choke him, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then you got look like a tickle.

[Flip]

That was a tickle.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like the one you did on him earlier.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. N. That some new he on some new. Am I. I'm just trying.

[Flip]

That's also very metro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is very.

[Ish]

I'm trying to acclimate. Is that the word? I'm trying to, you know, help me mark. I'm trying to just.

[Flip]

I don't know if that's the best way to acclimate.

[Ish]

I don't know what that mean. I'm just saying.

[Flip]

Oh, hey, friend, let me tickle you.

[Ish]

Let me.

[Flip]

He seems a little standoffish. Let me tickle him.

[Ish]

Are you talking about. Don't try to. Just get adjusted to my brothers, that's all.

[Big Parks]

By tickling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't adjust to me.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

Stay over there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So would y' all do this? I mean, like, for example, you are.

[Joe Button]

I don't care how many degrees you have. This one's not gonna. This topic ain't gonna get it done. No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

It's not believable any of us here would get that tattoo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, obviously not. Nobody's face. Even the married people here ain't doing that.

[Flip]

Maybe if she was abducted by aliens, then perhaps, I guess.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My question. Is any tattoo appropriate? Like, I'm talking about, like, names like you. You gonna be with your partner forever? Is a. Would you do the name at least?

[Joe Button]

What's her name? Are we talking about, like, her full name? Her nickname? Initials?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gotta be something that can't be confused with nobody else. You can't write baby on there.

[Joe Button]

You also can't write Sade in full on a pinky toe. The spots that I have reserved for the tattoo is only but so much that's gonna fit it. Shout out to my baby. She's listening. I love you. I would get it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who gonna see it?

[Joe Button]

I'm closer to this. No girl is gonna see my body anyway. What am I hiding? What am I hiding? You the only one about to look at my body till it's old and wrinkled and whack and pruny and done. If it make you feel good to see your name on Some. I got a bunch of bullshit on my body. I wouldn't give a ish.

[Ish]

You don't have tattoos, right? Ish?

[Big Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

You gotta get that black. Black ink.

[Ish]

Yeah, the invisible ink.

[Joe Button]

He. The. That's gonna get a color tattoo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He gonna go get this.

[Joe Button]

He gonna get the colors.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's wrong with the colors?

[Ish]

Nothing's wrong with this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm asking.

[Ish]

You wouldn't get a tattoo at this age. You're too old.

[Joe Button]

You feel right. Your complexion don't normally get.

[Flip]

He was talking about getting asleep.

[Joe Button]

Cause you can't see it, right?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Remember, he's getting.

[Ish]

No, that's the. That get the colors. No, the lighter skinned get the color tattoos, y'.

[Guest Artist]

All.

[Joe Button]

You got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want, you want so you won't get colored. Anyway. You were looking at a sleeve before. Would you get your partner's name on. On you or face? Or face.

[Ish]

Face.

[Big Parks]

No initials, maybe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why not the face? It's not.

[Joe Button]

My bad pimp, cuz then we would.

[Big Parks]

See her.

[Joe Button]

Walk right into that. That's funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how it's done.

[Joe Button]

That's hilarious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't see the play.

[Joe Button]

Nobody would do that. I'm not even putting that on nobody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I would do. Name something like that. I would do my wife's face, actually. I would do my wife's face. I would do it as part of everybody. I would do my kids, her. I would do everybody.

[Joe Button]

Oh, like a montage.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The whole family. The whole fam.

[Joe Button]

Like some Sears shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. The problem with doing tattoos of kids is that they look different. You know what I mean? So I'd have to wait until they were grown.

[Flip]

So who's your wife?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but you know what I'm saying.

[Flip]

I do.

[Big Parks]

You gonna tell her that you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait. I had a whole joke down there. I'm not following you down that joke always, sir.

[Joe Button]

I tried to make you all get to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You already got me on the clip with the Large Professor. I looked on the Internet. I was like, they picked that clip.

[Joe Button]

He tried to bounce back with the Large professor after that quarterback take. Anyway, that was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Joe Button]

Sky Zoo. Oh, I know that. That was hard. All right, come on. On. John Tay. Murray, listen. Everybody's just having problems with their girls. I would love to come in, talk music, but.

[Flip]

Ain't none.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ain't none.

[Joe Button]

I can tell you about the AI out, my boy.

[Flip]

I would like to hear about it.

[Big Parks]

It's fine.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I feel away about even. Even saying something about it.

[Flip]

Did you buy it? You bought it on accident or did you know it Was AI and bought it.

[Joe Button]

I bought it. And as it was downloading, I realized. I investigated it. I see when I'm hearing these AI people, they sound familiar to me.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Because like, it's a song and the pulse of a song of somebody I like or. Sure. So you got me if I hear it and it's good. So I heard some on. On Instagram. Somebody had it as a song. I went to find the album. I found the album. Let me try to play some of it. I'm not gonna say who it is because I'm not promoting some.

[Big Parks]

I told you, the other got an ep. That ain't bad.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but them getting you and them getting me is two different things. With all due respect. What's the difference? It's the difference.

[Big Parks]

They got you too.

[Joe Button]

No, they didn't get me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I bought it.

[Joe Button]

You didn't know your was AI until we came here and told you.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, no, but you didn't either. So when you heard that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

True.

[Big Parks]

When you heard that song, you said, yo, who the is that? That is fire. And you went and bought it. You didn't know it was AI before you.

[Joe Button]

I was going to buy it. They had an album out. I saw the COVID The COVID looked fishy. But I'm already pressing Download because this sounds like good stuff. And then I investigated and yeah, it was definitely some AI. But let's see here, let's see here, let's see here. Look at this. This is the scariest ever. And this is track too. I'm gonna briefly play just a few of these.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

But this is why something has to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Be done about this.

[Joe Button]

You can't just go steal Whitney's voice, Luther's voice.

[Flip]

It sounds like something you would play as a sleeper.

[Joe Button]

Of course. Yeah. This whole AI album sounds like that.

[Flip]

I bet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel like I've heard this before. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Cause you probably have heard it before or something simple. Right. Wherever they took it from.

[Flip]

Don'T sound bad.

[Joe Button]

Bad at all.

[Flip]

Trying to think who that sounded like.

[Joe Button]

I can name a few people a bunch.

[Flip]

All right, you give it a lot of shots.

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Imagine me thinking I found something. I'm like, oh, I'm about to kill the streets.

[Guest Artist]

Drama.

[Joe Button]

She sound like Beyonce background.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I see what they doing now.

[Joe Button]

I'm turning off. Okay. I'm turning off.

[Flip]

I'm conflicted about this because I don't necessarily. I don't like AI, but I do think there are ethical ways in which you use AI if this is someone that, like, wrote the song and produced the song, but can't sing the song and had the machine replace his voice. I'm not all the way mad at that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can you just give it to somebody like every other songwriter has done for the last.

[Flip]

Sing or is down to collaborate with you or. You know, there's a million reasons why you might go this route. And I'm not all the way mad at that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, maybe I'm just old.

[Big Parks]

I just think that. Yeah, I think that. What happens when it starts to be the dominant thing? Like, we sit around and we talk about the companies all the time monopolizing shit and not paying it people, they're just dues, et cetera, et cetera. What happens when this becomes the majority, not the minority? I think as the tech gets better, the sound of the music's gonna get better. We already Talked about how ChatGPT, the paid version versus the free version. Like, now, when this shit can start really writing these songs that you, a writer, might not be needed anymore. Right now you're given a scenario of the writer being compensated accordingly, which is dope. But what happens when the ChatGPT could write the song, produce the song, sing the song? It's a whole bunch of people now out of work.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but that's a problem for a few reasons. Part of the problem with AI is not how useful we think it will be in the future. I think most of us agree on that. I think it's about the business being right. 1. So if the business is right and you go and you do that, or what Parks are suggesting, then awesome.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What business? You lost me.

[Flip]

Like, I've talked about the umg. What is udo? Whatever the AI company is, they just made a agreement that we talked about briefly in the last pod where the people that the AI is borrowing from get compensated.

[Big Parks]

But UMG has already given a fraction of a billion of a billion. So imagine when we say, yo, we did all the work, you just gone. We used your likeness to a certain degree. You think the compensation will be fair?

[Flip]

Probably not.

[Big Parks]

You get what I'm saying?

[Flip]

There is a world in which it would be. It's possible. Likely. No, I mean, we're talking about corporations.

[Big Parks]

I stand on the side of realism.

[Joe Button]

Like, no doubt you talk for a living. There should be nobody that can. Can come and take all of the words that you've modeled and go and create you. I would be against that.

[Big Parks]

True. But now the talking is the talent. It's a distinction I have between ghost writing raps and writing for people to sing. Like, singing is the Talent.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Big Parks]

I mean, writing is a talent, too, but if you're a rapper and you're reciting somebody's shit, you just kind of deliverance more so than that being your.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

You get what I'm saying? So I kind of frown upon one. I don't really frown upon the other.

[Flip]

I think it's more complex.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Minimalistic. All right, so if I'm getting up here and I'm giving my opinion on a topic that we got on the board.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, cool.

[Big Parks]

But if it's a general song that they could pull from a thousand love novels, you could pull from a million love songs to generate a song, who do we compensate?

[Joe Button]

The million places that you took it from.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Big Parks]

Which means it's gonna be less than a cent, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Which plenty of people make a living off of. Less than the person that put a snare on the Confessions album was rich for life.

[Flip]

And also, if hundreds of thousands of people are all pulling from these sources, them little pennies will add up.

[Joe Button]

Cool.

[Big Parks]

But y' all just said that RBX and them are not being compensated accordingly based on a pool of tips.

[Joe Button]

Business is wrong.

[Flip]

Back to your real estate thing. You're absolutely right.

[Big Parks]

You get what I'm saying? Like, yeah, what faith do we have that they gonna compensate these seven zillion very little sources that we pulled from?

[Flip]

Very little. But I do think that it is.

[Ish]

Possible they could come up with a system, though.

[Flip]

They can. Absolutely.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

This is all digital that you could absolutely trace the roots for. It's not some complex old school where we're trying to piece together some that happened in the 1800s or whatever. No, this is all it has, a digital footprint.

[Big Parks]

Gotcha.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And for me, it's about the quality of the product and the arts. Because, yeah, you can pull people together and sounds together to make something that's new, but there's still something about the human mind and the human spirit that's different.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean? But if it becomes better business to not do that, then companies at some point are going to do that. And that's what scares me. Just like we could pull podcasters together and we could find someone to have my perspective or your perspective. Right. Not just our words, but our actual point of view. And at some point, podcasting and journalism and paper writing and everything is just going to book authors. All that shit is going to be gone if we. If it goes down this road. And that just scares me. And I know every generation has that fear.

[Flip]

True.

[Joe Button]

But yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I know I'm Old.

[Flip]

So I also just think that there's limitations to what the AI shit can do, because I think that we become more invested in the person, more so than just the music. People aren't just going fucking balls to the wall over Drake and posting all these bots. And all these people aren't just doing that because they're. They like the slaps. They became invested in the person. And then we're also discounting the whole entire business that is live performance, whether it's concerts, whether it's TV appearances, interviews, etc, AI can't replicate that.

[Big Parks]

Mimic that.

[Flip]

So I think that there could be a million great AI slaps, but that's only one recorded music. Even pre digital, everything has only been a. Maybe a third of the music business.

[Joe Button]

Maybe I'm not gonna play no more of this, even though not right now.

[Ish]

This was doing a whole other bro. And this is new.

[Joe Button]

This is not fair.

[Big Parks]

Imagine five years from now.

[Joe Button]

But I told y' all I was in the strip club. I was in the strip club and ran into one of them techie, techie people. And they was like, yo, y' all need to continue that conversation on AI because essentially what's happening is yada yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, and. And your everyday regular. Nobody can just pull Beethoven. Put him here. Pull Maestro. Put him here. And now humans are competing with the best of the best of AI. It's just gonna be tough. It's just gonna be tough. I'm not gonna beat people down. Cause I don't. It's. I don't know how many musicians are listening out there. I don't know how many people this actually concerns. But this is. This is right this second, scary for sure. Right this second. Like, I don't know what to do as a listener, as a consumer.

[Flip]

We have made it a layup from the. The introduction of the drum machine to auto tune, to sample packs and sound packs. Like, we've just laid it up for the next generation to do this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Flip]

Like, it's hard to be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a great point.

[Flip]

That critical when we have been copy pasting music for the past 30 years.

[Joe Button]

I agree. Yes and no. You still needed musicians to do that stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Agree.

[Flip]

I mean, I think you'll still need musicians to execute this in a way that is meaningful.

[Joe Button]

Got it. And I guess that's what we'll find out.

[Flip]

We will find out for sure.

[Joe Button]

That's what we'll find out. Speaking of live music, did anybody see Kehlani? I know I've been glazing Folded, but anybody catch Kehlani on Kimmel? No. No doing Folded live.

[Flip]

Now let's hear it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. She body. This lady has really been working on everything. Everything, everything you can tell. Listen now Kehlani sounds live singing Folded in front of a washing machine tin dryer. I love it. I love it.

[Flip]

I like her going to kibble too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, me too.

[Joe Button]

And I like her getting right to it, not letting it be right. Let's. Oh, I love when it sound like the record now. Hey.

[Ish]

She sounds amazing.

[Joe Button]

Not with the vocals. Not over the song. Hey, listen to her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sound like the record.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Damn, they even better than the record. If this is master the mixed. I can't congratulate Kehlani enough, honestly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, listen.

[Joe Button]

And I want to congratulate Kehlani. Let's hit the round of applause. This is her first top 10 top. Top 10 top 40 record of her career. Make some noise. Let's keep that applause going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to her.

[Joe Button]

I love. We want to shout out Leon Thomas too. I think the same applies for him with Mutt. Mutt is. This is his first top 10 top 40 record.

[Flip]

See, this kind of goes back to the AI conversation.

[Joe Button]

How.

[Flip]

How would these records get worked? How will the. The records that you played before Kehlani, how do they have the impact of Folded or Mutt if they're not someone to go out and pop up at these places and do different renditions that make you even more interested in owning this record?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, that's where I think the new generation is going to use social media in a whole different way than we did.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you're going to see the Instagrams and the Tiktoks and stand ins for it. Just like, you know, like in the old days when you had stand ins for black singers or in our era you had stand ins for the fat singers. You know what I mean? Cnc, Music Factory, Times, Martha Wash, all that. So I think they're going to find new ways to market records that might be even more viral. That's why I'm so scared, because I think it might work.

[Big Parks]

I think it's not working.

[Joe Button]

Workable.

[Flip]

I'm sorry if there's no human to go out and do. How do we care about this record outside of this 3 minute thing that exists or 2 minute and 35 second thing?

[Ish]

And aren't they putting. They're putting things in place to avoid the humans being taken over.

[Flip]

Folded is not folded. If we don't have all these different pop ups and Renditions and people going on tick tock and all this different. And her showing up places and other artists that are of her caliber or vocally, maybe even better in some cases doing renditions of the song, it doesn't exist.

[Big Parks]

I agree with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, but that's interesting.

[Big Parks]

A lot of popularity doesn't go to the popular.

[Joe Button]

The record.

[Flip]

This record doesn't do it.

[Ish]

Like Mark said, things are changing. So with social media and the next generation, they may not go outside. They. They may not care to go and watch somebody live or watch someone live a live performance.

[Joe Button]

That's where I would. That's where I was going. I'm. I'm right with Flip. I agree with you. You won't be able to work these records, and that's probably to a detriment right this second. Or it's not. And these bots and shit. And even the whole bot argument that people have been having recently proved that, hey, we don't need the top 40 to make money necessarily, and we don't need records that actually need to be worked. We just need to prove that it's being listened to somewhere to cash in on it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's where.

[Joe Button]

Where I fear it's going.

[Big Parks]

And what y' all say is from y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Big Parks]

Y' all say that, yo, once the machine is behind the song, they work the song. So whether they putting it on playlists digitally or they got it on TikTok, they got it over here, they got it over there. That is a version of quote unquote, working the song.

[Flip]

No, not to the same level.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or. And it might be. The humans pick it up afterwards. So, like, imagine. Imagine a folded word AI song, and Kehlani wear AI art artist.

[Flip]

Huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That happens. But then you still get the neo remix and carry it to the next level. So that might be how it gets worked.

[Joe Button]

No, you wouldn't. But that's. That's not true. If folded were AI, I don't think we get Brandy, Neo, Mario, Tony, like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Artists, even if it's a bop.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the record ish play was a bop. Like, there's gonna be AI bops. Artists with artists. I like to think E, Neo and Mario and Tank and Brandi and Tony either fuck with Kehlani or got a call from a human saying, hey, can I send you something? Like, there's still that in the music.

[Flip]

Also, aside from that, if Neo and all these people are covering an AI song, is that not still artists getting work?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm with y'.

[Guest Artist]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying in the Present moment. I know that's the case. My fear is that in 30 years, that won't be the case. Not even 30 or 10. Maybe even faster than that. You know, I mean, that suddenly, 30.

[Joe Button]

Years, I will be slamming bingo down and cursing somebody's grandparents out. Like in 30.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'll be 75, 80 years old. My fight ain't gonna be this. Yeah. I got 15 more years and maybe that tops of me coming in here to all the streaming the AI past 65. I'm not doing it. Hell no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

Dying in peace. Whatever the they making out there. If it's ice Ice Baby 2.0. Hey, sorry, sorry. Have at it.

[Ish]

Have a blast.

[Joe Button]

What else is there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can you tell me about the Shantae Murray thing that I'm on edit.

[Flip]

We completely skip over.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the bird. All right, the bird. Shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Enough of this technology, future the world shit.

[Ish]

Arguing with fans about this, you know, you don't read it.

[Joe Button]

John Tay. Murray is mad that I don't know what he's mad at. Here, let's read this.

[Ish]

Baby mother.

[Joe Button]

This is a mess. Okay.

[Ish]

Went out to the club.

[Joe Button]

She chose the clubs, I guess he had had a conversation with his baby mother or his wife or his fiance or whatever she is. But long term. They're long term. And in that conversation, he was like, yo, I want somebody that's in the crib. I don't want somebody that's out in the streets and clubs. Yada, yada, yada. And she gave him the spiel, no, I'm not even like that. My clubbing days is over. Domesticated shit. I'm in the house. I'm a homebody mostly. Yada, yada, yada. And then she had told him that she was going on a trip for work to Houston and end up not working at all. And some concerts going on. She was moving around. Her phone died. She was shaking ass out there.

[Ish]

Left the kids with the mom.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Left the kids with mom. You know. You know, you know. So dejounte Murray got on the Internet and said he wrote some books. This may be a little long, but I'll give it to you anyway. Pause. The fact that y' all went from, oh, she changed and she's living a great life and got away. Then boom. He only mad she out outside. You wouldn't be mad if you living and got a family with the person that you've been asking for years to be real on what they want. And they say a family and not be in the clubs no more. Cause it's Old then say they going to Houston to work and see family but end up lying to me and avoiding me while in clubs unannounced. Y' all fans are sick. I want the best for that girl and just want to be left alone from this. Y' all mad? Y' all can't bully me and accept the truth. Why wouldn't I be mad? She is sacrificing her son, Miss. She is sacrificing her son, missing school for being in the club shaking ass and our kids having to be stuck in her mama's house when she never communicated to being in clubs. At least send the kids with the daddy and not your mama. Y' all got this shit. Y' all know that girl best. Y' all know that girl best self was with me, loving her and all the lies and drama she came with and still was 10 toes in with her about whatever against whoever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And lastly, stop imitating that man with the sass, man. Give him some bass.

[Joe Button]

Nah, this is some sassy shit.

[Flip]

It's sassy.

[Joe Button]

And lastly, let's dead that lame ass narrative of she don't work cause of me. I bet she won't get on here and tell y' all I made sure she never wanted for money. Tried to pay any dollar for a production team for content, tried to get her back in school to learn how to open up salons and I funded 100% and wanted nothing in return. That sound like a real ass to me trying to turn shorty from a girl to a boss queen. I won't ever entertain this again though. I just ain't never had nobody come tell the truth. And all these fake narratives got put on a real nigga's name.

[Flip]

Girl.

[Joe Button]

He he continues he says to somebody controlling, why? Why pay for a full time nanny only for her to be able to have her time to work and do what she need, propose to propose to someone constantly lying and saying she want to be one place but really want to be somewhere else. Sounds like a girl playing dangerous games to me and not trying to free up someone they really don't want to be with. I bet she won't tell you the convo of old girls saying in writing I never came to her hosting, I never invited her to my party. How I'm gonna invite that girl to a party blank. Cause I'm not saying her name and the two girls she deeply knows threw for me. Y' all are sick. I'm a real man. And let me give you some advice. Your name is all you got. And when you got A girl that know all these narratives are fake and not even real. And not real on your name and won't come defend you. But soon as someone mention her, she quick, I'm almost done.

[Flip]

I promise.

[Joe Button]

I'm almost done. He's almost done being. And someone mentioned her, she quick, let me give you some advice. Oh, she's repeating the same shit. Oh, all right. That's the end of that one. He just repeated the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's going through it, yo.

[Ish]

It's sad. No matter how much money.

[Joe Button]

What's that?

[Ish]

He's in La La Land. No matter how much money you have, she's not going. The person's not gonna change unless they're ready to change, right? Sometimes you put them in a position, they give you all these promises and all that. Cause you fall in love with them. But they're not gonna change unless they wanna change. And you have to look within. What you might be missing in the home, nigga. What you might be missing that she. What does she got friends? Is she outside? Is she hanging out?

[Joe Button]

What?

[Ish]

What niggas think they get all this money and put these girls in these big homes and just. Yo, I gotta work. I gotta go play basketball.

[Flip]

And stay your ass right here.

[Ish]

And stay your ass right here. It don't work like that, man. It doesn't work like that.

[Flip]

Not at all.

[Ish]

I know a couple of them that fuck with some players, man, and they. They say how stressful it is just to be in a house. And they have to do hobbies and try to pick up certain things. And fuck the pool boy or the gardener. No, for real.

[Flip]

That's tough.

[Ish]

Initially, before you meet someone, they want that lavish life. But once they get it, some of them regret it.

[Joe Button]

I agree. Any advice y' all could give the young brother and some OGs in the game?

[Ish]

I don't know. What the fuck advice you gonna give him, nigga, pay attention to your home, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, first, a piece of advice, young man. Brother, stay off the Internet with this shit. Cause no matter how gangster you think this sounds, how tough you think, how much you think you getting at her, you just. You don't come off looking good when you do this. And that's no disrespect to the brother, but, like, it just doesn't look good. There's a reason why you impersonated him in that voice. You know what I mean? It's how I heard him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Flip]

It's impossible to not sound like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't. Not right Exactly. It's unavoidable to sound like that. The second piece. Piece of advice I have for him, again, is well hopeful. Say you was who you was before you got here. Like, to your point. Like, people are who they are. Women got a right to go out. They got a right to party. They got a right to be away from their kids, all that shit.

[Ish]

I don't know. I don't. I don't agree with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you want locked in the house?

[Ish]

Listen, Mark, listen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had a butt coming, just to be clear.

[Ish]

All right, pause.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But, like, that was crazy.

[Ish]

You have children and stuff like that. Okay, got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You still allowed out. You are allowed out, but it's a deception.

[Joe Button]

Where you going?

[Ish]

Yeah, Houston.

[Joe Button]

See, that's the thing. He young, so she. She probably young.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Button]

You trying to tie down something at that age.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ain't wanting to be tied down.

[Big Parks]

But she said she wanted to be tied down.

[Ish]

Oh, please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, Ish.

[Ish]

You know that. You believe that. Hello?

[Big Parks]

I don't know her.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm not talking.

[Big Parks]

I'm sad. I'm. I agree. Stay off the Internet. But I think in his defense, yo, if niggas start slandering your name and you don't have a way to get the real truth out, especially. And they grew up in this era, so I think him going to the Internet is his version of protecting my name and protecting my Persona out in the real world.

[Joe Button]

Do you think he did that?

[Big Parks]

I think in the voice you read it in to be funny. No, but I think.

[Joe Button]

But like, in a different voice, I.

[Big Parks]

Think that if he had an opportunity to tell his side of the story, he thought that that was it.

[Joe Button]

Do you think that that made him look better If.

[Big Parks]

If I didn't. If I heard her side of the story and they contradicted that and he came in and said, yo, dog, she lying. She said she was going to Houston for work. She didn't go to work. She was out in the streets.

[Flip]

It could be work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was checking his look cutest weekend.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I gotta get into you now. I gotta get in this now. It's too much. Too much. This podcast. You done too many wives. What are you talking about right now? What are you saying?

[Big Parks]

What they gotta do with the price of tea in China?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The fact that I.

[Big Parks]

The wives is why. I understand why this. Don't want to be outside having his. Pardon me. Take that out, please. Having his girl lying about where I'm dropping my kids off and what I'm doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The fact that I.

[Big Parks]

Those girls now Makes me aware of the things that are going on with these women that I.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I'm looking at you, these women differently. You're the guy that when the girl lies the homeboy and say, oh, I'm going to work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's working. It's just work.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

You're the guy that put him on speaker. Yeah. Why the you understanding some shit now? You complicit.

[Ish]

But he grew. He got. He's older.

[Big Parks]

No, the fact that I've been on the other side of that coin is why I understand what he's feeling.

[Ish]

Have you been on both sides of the coin?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I've been on both sides.

[Ish]

Real.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Joe Button]

I didn't understand how he was feeling.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How did you feel when you were. When it happened to you?

[Big Parks]

The same way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Describe that feeling, because that's all I heard was sassy.

[Big Parks]

Stupid Joe Reddit inside.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I wanted. I want your version.

[Joe Button]

No, it was sassy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, you got it.

[Joe Button]

You read it in a man voice.

[Big Parks]

No, I'm good.

[Ish]

He went to the Internet. But it's not. Expressing himself. Is not sassy. He's expressing himself that I tried to give this woman everything that she expressed yourself to strangers.

[Joe Button]

You can come off sassy, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it. Strangers type mean things. He don't know this. That he's talking to.

[Big Parks]

Oh, he added a dude.

[Ish]

Yes, yes.

[Joe Button]

He added money.

[Big Parks]

I didn't say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what makes me.

[Joe Button]

Yes, he added somebody with this thousand word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He only added.

[Ish]

No, the second part. Not the first part. When he spoke.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that makes it better. That makes it better.

[Big Parks]

Said something to him.

[Ish]

You express yourself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm sure that's probably what it was, but stop. He added the. That was. No, no, I don't think. I don't think he's adding the boy. I think that's what I'm saying to me, talking to any stranger about this.

[Joe Button]

No, if a your girl. You can't get on the Internet with a million words about how you feel about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry.

[Joe Button]

And if you have to do that, the Internet looks at it like, oh, you can't get touch with the.

[Big Parks]

I don't think a this girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not what he's describing.

[Big Parks]

He's describing.

[Flip]

That's even worse.

[Ish]

No, not.

[Big Parks]

He's describing. Yo, my girl lied to me about. About where she was going. When I got with this girl, she said she was ready to settle down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Big Parks]

You ready to settle down? I'm gonna give you all of the things that you need to settle down and create a better life. You really don't want that.

[Joe Button]

Why you think. Why you think that is?

[Big Parks]

Why do I think? I don't know.

[Joe Button]

You think she don't want the life and is going to med school? No, I think she turned down somebody.

[Ish]

Gave her the life.

[Joe Button]

She just changed her mind. She just want to do something else.

[Big Parks]

It's possible. I don't know. I don't know.

[Ish]

The person people underestimate, living that life.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, bro, I don't know. The person is. A lot of people say, yo, dog, I would settle down with this, man. I want to live my soft life. I want to do all that. And what he's saying. I'm trying to provide that for you, and you still don't want that. He has a right to be mad. What the fuck are we talking about?

[Joe Button]

He's a bitch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He got a right. No, I'm not gonna call him. I'm not gonna call him mad. What I say, though, is he has a right to be mad. I agree with you. Ish. I'm just saying. I wouldn't vocalize that on the Internet. Three snaps in the circle. It just.

[Big Parks]

47.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And that's where he come from. He come from expressing it, expressing himself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

47. Yeah. Come on, man.

[Big Parks]

Like, if we get off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, at 47, you really shouldn't do it.

[Big Parks]

No, I said you 47 him. He, like, he's 25, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, at 25.

[Ish]

If I wasn't raised by who I.

[Joe Button]

When I did Suck A. At 25, they said, look at this. Suck ass.

[Ish]

But you still did it.

[Joe Button]

They didn't say, oh, all these 25, let's give gifts. Grace in the room to fuck up. Nobody said that.

[Ish]

But you still did it. That's the point. It's just saying you still did it. He still went on there to express himself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We all agree he got a right to be upset. He got a right to his feelings. I'm just saying it's not wise.

[Ish]

I hate when nigga doing nigga.

[Joe Button]

That's what we saying. That's what it sound like y' all arguing again.

[Ish]

If your feelings is hurt, right? You know how to express yourself by, you know, speaking and talking on the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Phone to my friends. Marcus47, not on Twitter. That's all I'm saying.

[Ish]

What if you take your shit and number one, what if you take your shit and add it into a speech, Nigga, but I'm waiting on some bliminals, like, hey, you know what, Plymouth?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And sometimes your lady will go, To Houston. And she like, no, sometimes we go.

[Ish]

To Houston and we gotta love. You gotta drop them kids off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dropped it where?

[Ish]

Little Malcolm at?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Malcolm at. You see, I'm not doing that. I never was doing that. I was never on that type time. But I'm with you. But. But some people are. And that's cool.

[Ish]

Cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying? But you just got to understand that. But also, again, people got to write. I. I would love to hear her version of this, though. I would love to see the clap back. Partly because I'm a bird and partly because I would. I imagine that she experienced that situation very differently.

[Ish]

She would be blackballed out of all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them Houston.

[Ish]

You know, she was.

[Joe Button]

Well, yeah, that's not true, cuz she's somebody, right? Like, I'm not saying her name, but she's somebody on her own. Right. She ain't going to be black, but yeah, she's somebody. I'm having to come conversation just in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

General, but that's what I'm saying about her having a different take on this because.

[Joe Button]

So you went and got a hot. You went and got a hot girl. Let's call it what it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But she makes content.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying a hot girl. I'm talking about unknown, a popular woman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no. I'm saying she makes. To your point. She makes content. She's a hot girl. She wouldn't made some. She might have been outside. I mean, there's a thin line. Like Flip. Flip. Flip, you a perfect example.

[Ish]

Yeah, what's up?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You make content. Yes. So if somebody say, well, Flip is in the club. He said he was working, but he was in the club. That might be your content.

[Guest Artist]

Content.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying show me the footage.

[Ish]

I mean, I be using. And bigger than that, I use those lines.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The bigger point is you say you get that off too.

[Big Parks]

The bigger point is, yo, my phone was dead and you lied about what you was doing when you were there. We just gonna skip over that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She said she was at work.

[Joe Button]

Yo, this be agreeing with us and fighting with us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not what I'm doing, Joe.

[Joe Button]

It sound like.

[Big Parks]

Yo, I don't. I agree with certain parts of the story of him. I shouldn't go online when you said that. I agree with you. I'm not gonna dismiss the fact that what he is describing, if it is true, shorty's in the wrong. Y' all saying it like he a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ass nigga for feeling how he feeling. He's not a ass nigga.

[Ish]

He's saying online he Just said he's a bitch.

[Joe Button]

Not because of how he's feeling, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not the feelings.

[Ish]

Because he expressed his opinions.

[Joe Button]

How you go about handling feelings is gonna make somebody call you a bitch or not call you. I don't know him, so I don't know if he's a bitch or not. I'm potting right now, but this comes off away.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It comes off away. That's the best way.

[Joe Button]

Coming from somebody who has come off away. Like, I ain't exempt. I'm selling you what they told me when I went on the Internet and said, oh, you want to fuck that nigga? You can't do that when you find out your girl or baby moms want to fuck somebody else. Mute up. That's what I'm saying. And if you don't, you gonna come off away.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At least log out.

[Joe Button]

Put the phone down, nigga. I was tweeting. Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, we all got a word.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody had a moment where they wrote some real, like, cryptic shit. Like, two words.

[Joe Button]

I think mine was.

[Ish]

Mine was.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. Oh, it's funny. Now I'm going down the rabble. I'm not even going to expose myself. I'm not even going to expose myself. But it was one trying to behind me all the time. Pause that thing. He said to somebody, this wasn't even my girl, but I was her. Like, you're my girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said, this is a Twitter classic.

[Joe Button]

You look phenomenal. Oh, I remember this. And I was up and I tweeted, Phenomenal.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just wrote. That's. You just wrote the word Phenomenal. That's it.

[Joe Button]

Like a mutt. Like a. But it was funny, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, Mine was funny, but it sounds, like, phenomenal.

[Joe Button]

Wait, I'm not. Wait. I don't deny that it's mutt.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Phenomenal, huh?

[Joe Button]

It's mutt. Shit. Yes. All right, now you share about what.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Happened to you, huh?

[Joe Button]

And that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You niggas is such bitches on that. No, no, I posted. I just posted a video of Carl Thomas. I wish I never met her. That was it.

[Ish]

Oh, no.

[Flip]

What a.

[Ish]

Not my man.

[Joe Button]

What a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want a hug right on my neck? Straight on my neck.

[Ish]

Not you, yo.

[Joe Button]

Not my boys.

[Ish]

My fat boys break up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is bullshit.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah, those are good. I've had a couple I've had, but I, I, I, I, I, I deleted quickly.

[Big Parks]

That's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not quickly enough.

[Ish]

How quick?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, two days. Once it's dead, there's no such thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If she said it's too long. Got you. It don't even matter. I wouldn't even nobody to know. It was just like, what?

[Big Parks]

She hit you on set. Really? You wish you never met me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, her and her girlfriend, they start having an exchange. And this is the old Twitter. This is old 2000.

[Joe Button]

Hold up. Zaire calling in, calling to talk some yo for the shoe, yo. Peace, Peace, peace, peace, peace. What's going on? What's poppin? Peace and blessings. Peace and blessings. Well wishes to everybody. Same to you. Same to you. We got Zaire Franklin on the line. I thought. I thought we'd have heard from you during the win streak. You called after a loss?

[Flip]

Yeah, you know, no, it's after a win.

[Ish]

Salute to your man, Ice.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Ice is not here, but the. The Steel Curtain did what they had to do. Respectfully, you know, they earned it. Yo, can I get. Can we get a word from you on the news that just broke about the Sauce Gardener? Sauce Gardener to the shoot. Yeah, yeah. Indeed. Indeed. Good. Ch. Appreciate it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Sound like a great job. Look, Hope you ready to come work.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Appreciate it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jets.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't know what's going on over there.

[Big Parks]

I'll be going downhill from now this season.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I ain't spoke to you about the season y' all are having, but I couldn't be happier for you. I know how much you love all that shit. I know how much losing hurt. So to see y' all doing what y' all are doing and to have JT on my family fantasy team. Like, I can't say enough about y' all boys.

[Flip]

I got the cold defense I'm on.

[Joe Button]

I can't say enough. Can't say enough about the cold defense and kicker on the Jones. I've been taking care of him.

[Ish]

Hey, look.

[Joe Button]

Hey, look, Joe, listen.

[Ish]

He your type. He is.

[Joe Button]

Sniper. I ain't snitching.

[Big Parks]

I'm just letting you know what you calling it.

[Joe Button]

All right, listen, I. Me. Me and him had the same realtor for a little bit. I heard a couple stories. For sure, I heard a couple stories. Joe, I called to let you know I'll be in town next week. I'll be in town next week. We got Dubai, you know what I mean? I'm overdue, so I'm just giving you the heads up, clear your schedule, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I just. I just told my girl I retired from those types of places. But. But no, no, no.

[Flip]

I thought he was talking about podcast.

[Joe Button]

My boy is in Town gotta show my boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gotta work.

[Flip]

You gotta work.

[Joe Button]

I'm retired, too. Allegedly, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we gotta go celebrate the season. The museum.

[Big Parks]

Y' all go to the museum.

[Joe Button]

The only way we know how. Yeah. No, we gotta do it. All right, so say less. I'm gonna get my permission slip signed and we out. We out. I'm in there. You need a doctor's note. I got you. Hey, my girl be listening. But I mean, still. Come on. All right, Bet. Say less. I can't wait to see you in your gator. You know what it is? Yes, sir. Love, man. Please. Love always, PC. Real happy for Z man.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'm a Colts fan.

[Big Parks]

They kicking ass.

[Flip]

My team sucks, so I gotta root for somebody. Yeah, for the shoe, man.

[Joe Button]

I'm happy. I'm happy for him.

[Flip]

I am unironically for the shoe.

[Joe Button]

Yo, they scary. All right, so, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark, you.

[Joe Button]

You tweeted. I wish I never met her with a call. Thomas.

[Ish]

Gif.

[Joe Button]

Ish. What about you? What about what happened to you? Just pick one at a time.

[Big Parks]

I suffered in silence. I ain't do no public.

[Joe Button]

Because you ain't know how to use.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Twitter and all that. For this up he Black Planet up. Yeah, he was in the AOL chat room.

[Big Parks]

You know, you could put the songs in your.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In your backdrop. Oh, for my space.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man, you know my thing, too. And we could leave this because I don't want to be a bird or a part, but niggas love saying. Then why the girl even do all that if she ain't gonna leave? Why you go through the phone if you ain't gonna leave? Why you even talking to him about that if you ain't gonna leave? I think the same be applying for niggas sometimes.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You not leaving this lady. You not leaving this lady. You love her.

[Flip]

Let her go to the club for.

[Joe Button]

You to write the dissertation. You gonna get over that feeling by the time that the omelet is done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. Except now. Now 5 million people know what happened. That's why don't go on the Internet with this.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's true. Yeah. My heart goes out to John Tay Murray. It's now got me feeling bad for him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My heart also goes out to Big Sean.

[Flip]

Oh, that's true, my brother.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why engine just both of them. Big Sean. And according to the.

[Joe Button]

The rumors.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The rumors, the reports, etcetera, they are separating finally.

[Flip]

Or I thought they had been separated.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I think it's an official divorce now.

[Flip]

Were they married?

[Joe Button]

Nobody knows nothing.

[Ish]

You know what I think now that.

[Joe Button]

You mentioned Janae posted a cryptic song on Instagram and the reports just ran wild.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

So that's where people are getting this from. So they're alleging that Janae and Big Sean are no longer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying, you know what it is? I'm rooting for couples because we have so few. And once you get past six months, and then you get past a year, I start to think this might work. Then once you get to, like, two years, I'm like, oh, this is like.

[Flip]

They got, like, 10, don't they?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right? And that's what I'm saying. And so each year, you get more and more faith and more and more hope invested in them. Cause there's so few people that work.

[Joe Button]

I'm on the girl's side in this. When these things go this way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you mean he fucked up?

[Joe Button]

Not that he fucked up, but it don't take 10 years to know if you want to spend your whole life with somebody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How long does it take? About seven. Seven and a half.

[Joe Button]

Mark. We never had. We never got physical up here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We.

[Joe Button]

Me and you, kind of be vibing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you locked it. You left that at the rim. And it's a. Slow down. I walked it right there.

[Joe Button]

I walked it right there. I'm just saying.

[Ish]

And no, it don't.

[Joe Button]

It don't take seven years. It don't take seven and a half years. I think that women have the right to. If they feel like this relationship is just going too long and nothing's happening. Like, you really ain't. Ain't busting the move that I feel like they have the right to for sure step away from that and say you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[Joe Button]

Like 10 years. And I knew that little Charlemagne interview wasn't gonna go over right in the house. See, if it's gonna take seven to 10 years, you can't do interviews about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Charlemagne got right to him. Hey, man, that's why you shouldn't do interviews. He said, hey, man, what's taking so long to get married? Why haven't you yet? Can't answer no shit like that.

[Flip]

It's tricky.

[Joe Button]

She's watching.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's only one answer, and you know that. Is it happening?

[Joe Button]

You know that. That talk been happening in the house already, so you gotta be careful with that. Again, I don't know any of Sean and Janae's business. I love them both, so my heart goes out to both of them. It's sad. It's sad. No matter how that happened. But how long you want somebody to wait?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ish]

Forever.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Says the nigga who've been married for 34 years.

[Ish]

As long as you love me.

[Joe Button]

Wait, you did it in the Arby. You did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You married before you got finished high school.

[Ish]

Instant. Not married after I married. I'm married early. I'm married early. You know what I mean? I'm happy. I'm happy I did it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly. You couldn't have run that game but for so long.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Myself included. I'm just saying at some point you run out of feel.

[Ish]

What you think, don't worry about it. We looking at you. You the next one to get mad. We looking at you.

[Joe Button]

Every pod I come in here and talk marriage shit and now they think. Think that it's like a pod narrative.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, for real?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. They think I just come in here talking shit because I'm never gonna do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what people think.

[Ish]

Oh no, no, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He gonna do it. That's not.

[Ish]

I didn't get that.

[Joe Button]

People think that because I speak so open and freely about it. So I'd rather not speak open and freely about it. And I don't want my partner to feel like I think it's a joke because I don't think it's a joke. And I love you, baby, if you're listening.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Aww.

[Ish]

Gotta respect.

[Joe Button]

I don't think it's a joke. I'm lucky and blessed to have found the person I want to spend the rest of my life with.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a beautiful thing. You know who else loves their partner?

[Ish]

Hey. That's how my son get the slip side.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My son. Hey.

[Ish]

My son get the slip side. He put it in. That's how you get the slip side.

[Joe Button]

He so dumb.

[Ish]

You so fire. I didn't know you was going with this.

[Joe Button]

He so dumb.

[Ish]

Did she go like that? Yeah, she look, shout out. We love you.

[Joe Button]

If you listening, baby.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right out that she's listening. You know, Zaire just called. He gotta get the slip sign, so he just bodied it.

[Big Parks]

Slip sign? Yes.

[Ish]

Pardon me apart me I get. Yeah. About you. Ish.

[Big Parks]

I think everybody do what makes them happy.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Ish]

Do you really try to go with the be a politician? How you gonna lie, Professor? Ish. We got Morehouse.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Hey, hey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love you.

[Ish]

I don't give a fuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch him out. That's a great nine answers.

[Big Parks]

No, I, I, I, I think that if, if, if that is what somebody's objective is, then by all means they have the right to do what they think is going to make them happy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And if it's not their objective, they have a right to do it. Make them happy.

[Big Parks]

There you go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I voted for everybody.

[Joe Button]

There you go. Get out of there, man. Smooth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got that boy good.

[Ish]

That boy good, Mr. W. He better.

[Joe Button]

Than me at that. Yeah.

[Ish]

Did you give it just a surface and said it be so fire. He's be serious too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not sir.

[Ish]

I mean we all know that people gonna do what they want to do.

[Big Parks]

No, I think. I think that happiness I'm talking about like, yo, if. If your happiness is predicated on that, then rock out.

[Ish]

Do you feel like somebody should be in a relationship that long with someone that they don't plan to marry? Do you believe in that?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I think if those two people are happy in what they doing, then who's.

[Ish]

She wants to get married and he.

[Big Parks]

Then that's. Then that's a different thing. I think if though I said the two people. If the two people are content with where they are in their relationship and they happy and doing that. I don't think it's society's business to be put no time stipulation on nobody else's relationship.

[Joe Button]

Even if she's like dropping clues about it and the man is none the wiser.

[Big Parks]

If the woman is. Is set on that, then that's the conversation they need to have in their household. And if they can't agree on it, then they.

[Joe Button]

They at a crossroads.

[Big Parks]

Then they add a crossroads.

[Joe Button]

But you Gucci.

[Big Parks]

Who me?

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear what you said.

[Big Parks]

I'm fine.

[Joe Button]

My. Hey. Yeah. I tell you, he better than me. He got another Gucci that look, did you.

[Ish]

I'm not playing with you. You be so serious. Yo, you scary.

[Joe Button]

Don't worry. I'm bringing some Casa Azuli. And man, I'm gonna get you something nice.

[Flip]

I'm gonna bring some tequila.

[Joe Button]

But not just any tequila. I'm gonna bring some Casa Azul. Okay. That's my man.

[Ish]

Let me ask you a question. Ish. Remember because we talked about it on.

[Joe Button]

The Patreon, remember Beyonce got some wine or some.

[Flip]

Hold on. Some whiskey here.

[Joe Button]

Bring you some of that Beyonce whiskey, man.

[Big Parks]

What's the name of it?

[Flip]

I don't recall. I know what it thought you would have tried it. No, I never tried it.

[Joe Button]

We going to try it adjust though.

[Flip]

That's right.

[Ish]

Cool.

[Big Parks]

Got you.

[Flip]

But BEYONCE WHISKEY Some 25.

[Big Parks]

21.

[Joe Button]

25, 21 year year. Oh, you on some 5% of. Oh, I thought you I thought you meant in the year.

[Flip]

I thought you met in the year 2521. I was like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think you coming back?

[Joe Button]

I said some like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What he say?

[Joe Button]

I said, what that mean? Be having to ask.

[Big Parks]

I don't know what he said it meant.

[Joe Button]

He told me. Talking about God forgive God forgive him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was st for the law.

[Joe Button]

Stop for a. Yeah, thanks, guys. Look at both of y'. All. Y' all trying to go back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want to know the truth?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but you honestly, since you bring out the truth between y' all two. Ice and Mona and kind of part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I mean, this pod has taken your dog.

[Big Parks]

When I first came to the basement.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is taking a turn.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[Ish]

When I first came to the base.

[Flip]

No, it's always been this way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't understand.

[Big Parks]

Said and Parks hit me with the peace to the gods.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, no.

[Joe Button]

Cish was a. A closet 5%.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not a 5 percenter.

[Joe Button]

You are.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not a 5 percenter.

[Joe Button]

You're 5% esque.

[Ish]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you are.

[Ish]

Yo, what's wrong?

[Guest Artist]

You are.

[Big Parks]

I'm not. Why do you deny I'm not 5 percenter?

[Joe Button]

Es. She don't allow that in the house.

[Big Parks]

I'm not Muslim.

[Flip]

Is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not.

[Joe Button]

She Said, you finish with all that before you step back on. Hello.

[Ish]

How are you? Father, Son, the Holy Spirit.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No. So, yeah, he's closet, and Ice is kind of closet. Like, they don't. You got to catch Ice in the street to know that he surround himself with the brothers.

[Flip]

He looked uncomfortable in the bow tie, shiny suit.

[Joe Button]

He wears that outside. Yo, he do. Mark, we know about. Cause Philly. That whole Philly, Mark and Mona. This part has taken a turn. Oh, yeah.

[Flip]

I'm hoping all the advertisers from Philly.

[Joe Button]

The advertisers just see the numbers, man. Thank God they're not listening.

[Flip]

A lot of listeners in Philly.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my Lord.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I listen a lot.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, shout out to Philly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm thinking about.

[Big Parks]

You wore your Aki hoodie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, this one.

[Big Parks]

I got a couple cells.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, them.

[Big Parks]

Philly was ordering that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Come on, man.

[Joe Button]

You're welcome.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do I get a cut?

[Flip]

That's support.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Stab you.

[Flip]

You gotta get him a promo code.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Ish]

I will.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't even get a free hoodie.

[Joe Button]

I want to keep researching it. This is one of my Patreon topics. But in one of the bodybuilder crews, there's this type of beef going on where I don't know if y' all Are you in the community?

[Flip]

I watch some bodybuilding content.

[Joe Button]

All right, come on, come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's baiting me.

[Ish]

No, this is too easy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he set me up. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, you look.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, come on.

[Ish]

No, let's have some fun.

[Joe Button]

Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm. I'm too good at this. This too easy. This little this low hanging fruit. No, no, I need a challenge.

[Flip]

Well, the problem is you be body shaming him, so.

[Joe Button]

No, the funny is it's better not laugh one more time during this conversation.

[Big Parks]

Why though?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, why though?

[Ish]

You already asked.

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Ish]

Why though?

[Joe Button]

The mirror's in the bathroom.

[Big Parks]

What that mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You act like you skinny. You, not you.

[Big Parks]

Yo, you bring up body in like.

[Joe Button]

Youe body look like the toothpaste.

[Ish]

Stomach.

[Joe Button]

Your body.

[Ish]

You look like vinny Chase.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who the is you talking about?

[Joe Button]

Your body ain't nice for two months. You ugly naked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't you laughing have seen you naked. You look like you don't you don't laugh.

[Joe Button]

Awareness. You wear tank tops in the pool. You wear shirts and hoodies in the pool. You don't talk to me again.

[Big Parks]

Come through.

[Ish]

Okay, let's do it. Let's do it.

[Guest Artist]

Let's do it.

[Big Parks]

So take it off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So take that cheap tea off.

[Ish]

You fatter than me and I weigh.

[Joe Button]

More than I'm taller than you. Are you going to take the tea off or no?

[Big Parks]

Don't lie.

[Ish]

No, no, I'm not toilet shaped ass nigga.

[Joe Button]

Don't laugh again. When it come to body shit, don't laugh again. I get calls all week about how you steal candy from locations. Don't talk to me about body. Don't talk to me about your body.

[Ish]

You steal cand.

[Joe Button]

Don't talk to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This came here again.

[Joe Button]

Took the whole candy bowl. The bot don't talk about it no more. Let him laugh.

[Ish]

Yo, dog, tell you your little ugly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Body muted up show you not sexy. So take your shirt off. I don't want to take my shirt off.

[Ish]

Take your shirt off.

[Joe Button]

Sit down. That's what you get. Always want laughing on the joke. If you're not gonna take it off, I don't want to talk to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know you won't.

[Big Parks]

My shirt tight and your stomach stick out past mine.

[Joe Button]

Please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You talking about you've been in the.

[Big Parks]

Gym for two months.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think you Lou Ferrigno now? You ain't shamar Moore. You shamar less.

[Joe Button]

I'm L for rigno if you standing next to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you're not.

[Joe Button]

I'm L for rno if you walking in the club, then take it off you not though. Then shut the up there is you talking Exactly. Bad body, built ass nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And what you got a good one, Joe, your body is up. You got a long ass torso with short legs looking like he.

[Joe Button]

Man, are you still on this?

[Ish]

Watch up Y. Hold up Y. N is wild niggas a nutcase.

[Joe Button]

I just heard too much laughter. I heard too much laughter. You steal too many sour powers to laugh like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo. Tell you and your flunkies to keep.

[Joe Button]

The streets is talking about about you. You still nowad mute up. We talk about body. You bad bitch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Ish]

What are you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You sexy.

[Ish]

Yeah, to who?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They're still nailed to my baby.

[Joe Button]

The only one.

[Ish]

All right, cool.

[Big Parks]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

My baby, the only one.

[Flip]

Holy shit.

[Joe Button]

Who else I need to be?

[Big Parks]

That's it though.

[Joe Button]

And that's not it.

[Big Parks]

All right, if you say so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you say so.

[Joe Button]

Hey, and so.

[Flip]

So what was happening in the bodybuilding community?

[Ish]

I wouldn't know about the candy and why you held that in.

[Flip]

There's a lot to unpack it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's so much.

[Joe Button]

No, it was too much laughter.

[Ish]

Why you held that candy in.

[Big Parks]

Restaurant?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was just too much restaurant.

[Big Parks]

Osan. And for them to have that conversation is goofy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, he just came in here taking the candy out. Wait, I know who he talking about. It's the only person he could be talking about. So you paid for the candy? No, free candy that I took out.

[Joe Button]

The night Halloween ain't for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How much candy did you take for somebody to take note?

[Big Parks]

No, he also. I know I like candy. So I'm like, yo, let me rage your candy thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ha ha ha ha.

[Joe Button]

Kiki key.

[Big Parks]

So for it to make a conversation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Later on is goofy or it was.

[Joe Button]

A lot of candy out of here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got the bag, you put in the bag in your pocket? I wish.

[Ish]

Oh, nigga, it's relaxation. Hold on. I'm down with you, nigga. Eat your sweets, boy.

[Big Parks]

What are we talking about?

[Joe Button]

So what was happening? No, I'm not in the bodybuilder community. No, I'm not in the bodybuilder community. Just so we're clear. But I followed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I follow him.

[Joe Button]

So it's one of the big clicks. But we'll talk about it on Patreon. It's one of the big clicks. One of them wanted to start their own line of clothing and protein drinks and just their own line of shit. And he wanted to wear these weird. His clothing in the group in the gym with the audience that they built.

[Flip]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

His story is. Because it's multiple stories, but his story is the gym crew was like, okay, that's fine. But if we're using our resources to promote everything you're doing, then you have to pay us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, makes sense.

[Joe Button]

That's what I thought. Apparently there's a big blow up about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What is. What is the other perspective that like.

[Ish]

Did he talk about it? Do you have any, like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but I'm. But it's. It's a lot of back and forth, so I'd rather do it on Patreon. A lot of people don't even understand what the I'm talking about right now, but it's a lot of back and forth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Super interesting.

[Joe Button]

I found. I found another fight that's similar to this amongst. Amongst the content creators. There's a few of these going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's always.

[Joe Button]

And his fight. The other side of that is. Is I'm a part of this crew. I helped to build this crew. Whatever we doing, whatever numbers we accrued. I'm already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've helped.

[Joe Button]

So for y' all to charge me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I see what you're saying.

[Joe Button]

For y' all to charge me to wear some shit that I want to start. And I'm asking for y' all help.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's corny, right? So if I came in here and promoted my Patreon Mark Lamont Hill official every week, which has exclusive extra and early content, you would not expect anything because I'm already baked into this community. Community.

[Ish]

Yo, Mark is good. Mark, chill the out. What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a question.

[Joe Button]

No, Mark promote that everywhere. You get a chance.

[Ish]

He be bodying that too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He thank you.

[Ish]

And your timing is getting better. But I guess.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that would be the thinking is. No, if you're gonna do that, then pay me. Right?

[Ish]

But if a nigga making the bulk of the bread, he not gonna care, nigga, he don't give a fuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's part of the challenge. Yeah.

[Ish]

N making the bulk of the joint.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause I would give Joe a nickel. I'mma keep saying it.

[Big Parks]

I think. I think.

[Joe Button]

I wouldn't be able to sleep depending on nine times out of 10, I wouldn't be able to sleep. Like you want your people to. To have their own and to thrive and be able to thrive. And if you can help, I'm with helping. So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip. You ever thought of that? This crazy what I said wrong.

[Ish]

You're right, you're right. But you just. You that nigga. You're right, you're right.

[Flip]

It's also a different scenario.

[Ish]

I do think you want your people to scenario to strive, but I do also think that there may be limits. Not to striving, but there may be limits. You're not gonna let a nigga just come in here with his own situation.

[Joe Button]

And like, it's just worn that hoodie 900 times.

[Flip]

We promoted everything that you do, of.

[Joe Button]

Course, but we promote Imani's shit. His shit.

[Ish]

That's on.

[Big Parks]

If you came in here and you told everybody in here to wear your.

[Joe Button]

Shit.

[Big Parks]

Every time we work out or every time we pod, well, that would be easier. No, I'm just saying that's a different conversation than homeboy wearing his. If homeboy's wearing his own, that's one thing. He's making the click wear his, then that's something different.

[Flip]

I also think it's slightly different.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because this is the clicks together.

[Flip]

That's what I was saying.

[Joe Button]

We own.

[Flip]

That's what I was going to say.

[Joe Button]

We bust this down as a. A click. Oh, I got it. You can't go take your own brand, bring it into the that we collectively built in fun of the back. You can't do that.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If they got if the clip.

[Joe Button]

I don't operate like that. But I understand for Joe what promoting.

[Big Parks]

His and that's something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I see the difference.

[Ish]

If a came in here and had a situation, I didn't see you stop like, yo, now we're not talking about that. Shot a light today. I don't give a if that's situation or not. You stopped that before, bro. Stop conversations. If a use the platform to promote other shit, that can get them compensated. You have said, nah, nigga, we not doing that. I don't know where that come from. I don't know what you represented. I don't know what that is. And you're not gonna use this platform to do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You come a host of guests. I'm just asking for clarity. I don't have an opinion on it.

[Joe Button]

He talking about when some of the hosts up here act like crackheads and go take ad money from a in front of the Port Authority playing three card money and coming here wanting to talk about this crackhead in front of the Port Authority Authority playing three car money, where I'll say, hey, you're not wrong.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just want you to.

[Ish]

I just want you to understand both sides. That's what I'm saying.

[Flip]

But that's a different situation because in the, in this. The bodybuilder thing that he's describing. They all own the content. In this situation. He owns the content.

[Ish]

I agree. I agree with him and what he. Because when he explained it like, yo, this is a big platform.

[Flip]

I also think he's very generous with.

[Ish]

Extremely generous. But I, I would prefer when listening to him, knowing what he's done.

[Joe Button]

Oh, cuz then that's what they told him. That's what they told him. They said, we, we will charge you and you can wear whatever you want. They gave him a layout of options and all that.

[Ish]

Port Authority.

[Big Parks]

Oh, he can't wear his.

[Joe Button]

No, you can't. He. No, he can't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why.

[Joe Button]

No, he cannot wear his. They saying, well, not without the business getting right.

[Flip]

That's a little crazy to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that, that's a lot, man. Just let people do their thing. Again, thank you for your generosity yourself. Yeah.

[Ish]

Thank you. Not just let the network do their thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I love you myself here. I don't know if these people are friends. I don't know anything about that.

[Ish]

Of course.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And if we not friends and I don't love y' all and we only business partners, then I.1 million percent.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a different maker.

[Big Parks]

So let me ask you a question. What's the difference if homeboy came in with some Lululemon or Alo on or.

[Joe Button]

Something in their situation? It might not be none of that. It might be you can only. You over here. You can only wear this. What we all do and own you. Maybe can't come wear.

[Big Parks]

Oh, that's something. Maybe.

[Joe Button]

Again I have to hear the clips because there's been a lot of back and forth. I'm not all the way up on what everybody said and thinks. I just thought it was super entertaining and compelling.

[Big Parks]

It is.

[Flip]

It's very interesting.

[Joe Button]

And still if you come in here wearing a low. I'm freestyling right now because I didn't get this from her. If you come in here wearing Halo, then you came in here wearing alo. Not something that you directing all of the money back back to you. You circumventing the situation we have.

[Flip]

I think it would also depend too if the Click has their own.

[Big Parks]

Blah.

[Flip]

Blah, blah T shirts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They don't.

[Joe Button]

It's only this clicks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

It's not somebody coming bringing their own in is what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. And if I come and bring it in the. That the click already sells as an alternative.

[Flip]

That makes sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's different. That's. The details matter. In this situation, details definitely matter.

[Guest Artist]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I agree with that thousand percent, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love when the energy picks up, man. When you two start talking about each other's bodies and who's sexier and who gonna take the shirt off and what each other's legs look like.

[Joe Button]

For the record, I never spoke on any of that. That was a one sided thing.

[Ish]

You spoke about his body. Said that nigga was built like a two piece nigga. As you said about my man. You said it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They definitely are. Am I? Before you came in, they were arguing over who looks better naked. You came in at the right time. It was very spirited. Y'. All. Y'.

[Ish]

All. Y' all argue about anything, son.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like that's the best part of watching this.

[Ish]

I love that type of friendship.

[Joe Button]

But we wouldn't if he don't laugh.

[Ish]

But you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You participate. You waited on this. You definitely. You told me he looked like melted ice cream.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, after he said what?

[Ish]

And you roasted it with mad.

[Big Parks]

I'm sitting here laughing at a topic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but.

[Ish]

And you don't got jokes like that on the back of your head, Nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You've been at them jokes.

[Joe Button]

I said don't.

[Ish]

Them shits that come off the back of your head.

[Joe Button]

I said don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got.

[Ish]

You got dementia. You don't remember them. They come off the back of your head like that.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Ish]

You was going too crazy. Like you stored them through.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You definitely been thinking about it for a while. You had a few stored up.

[Joe Button]

My body was on his mind.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You talked about the length of his legs compared to his stomach. You said you look like. Is it Vinnie Chase?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, And I don't like to do that because I know it's just insecure about people that work out.

[Big Parks]

I'm not though.

[Ish]

That's not true. Sounds crazy.

[Joe Button]

Right back at it.

[Flip]

About something else.

[Joe Button]

I had to forget it then.

[Ish]

Why would you say that about somebody?

[Joe Button]

Never mind. I'm wrong.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This works out too.

[Ish]

That's why you chose a female. A woman trainer, right? You be just saying she do work out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where's my Y'? All? They had a whole exchange about this three weeks ago. He had a woman trainer.

[Ish]

He does weight workout.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen.

[Joe Button]

So I'm just looking for my phone, Big dog.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't need a phone. Tracy Morgan. I need to talk about Tracy Morgan for a minute, man. Cause as Flip would say, this thing is a legend.

[Flip]

I love Tracy Morgan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love Tracy Morgan. A comedic genius, man. I loved him on 30 Rock. He just popped up coming out of a soul food restaurant in Harlem with his new girlfriend. Shout out to him. I'm glad he's found love.

[Joe Button]

Who says that? That's his girlfriend.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fair enough. The Internet with a woman who has been deemed his new girlfriend. He's definitely holding hands with her. I think he may have acknowledged it. Girlfriend based on the media reports. But you're right, I can't confirm that because I didn't hear it myself.

[Ish]

Semantic, man.

[Joe Button]

Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but it's a great point. It's a great point. It doesn't negate my point, which is it was not the woman who he was with a few years ago who gave him a kidney. That's what I know for sure. Her name was Tanisha Hall. Was it? Anyway, fact, check me on the name, if I'm wrong, will be. But I think that's right. But he was married, got divorced, first met another woman, found love, found the woman he's going to be with again.

[Flip]

Love wins.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, love wins. Got that kidney.

[Ish]

How much he won for that loss?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

90 million.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He. Oh, so that's an important.

[Big Parks]

Are you sure it Was more than 90 million? I think it was more than 90.

[Joe Button]

I think it was a little more than 90.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was it more than 90?

[Joe Button]

Because when he came over and talked to me and E at the Garden.

[Big Parks]

He said, what do 900 million look like?

[Joe Button]

It wasn't no 90 million. Talking 90 million, I'd have been cool, but I couldn't even eat in front of that nigga. The shit he was saying in there. He put him. He pulled up to the Garden in a different $500,000 car every day. Tracy Morgan has all of the money. He's hilarious, he's cool.

[Flip]

It says 90 million estimated, but carry on.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think that's like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought that was a number, but. But yeah, that's a Google answer. And even if I'm.

[Joe Button]

Even if I'm wrong, right? It's 90 million tax free. Dollars. Dollars. Because they don't tax your lawsuit money.

[Flip]

It's not like he didn't have a successful career before, during, and after.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the point is they were so meets girl gets kidney, has love, gets 90 million up jumps the boogie, right? And. And I don't know who broke up with who. I'm going to take a leap and suggest that she didn't leave him. After the $90 million settlement, he now has a new girlfriend. Again. I don't know why. My point is, the question that I raise is I don't care about his personal business is do we? If somebody gives you a Kidney. Do you owe them? Do you kind of gotta be with them forever?

[Flip]

No, no, not necessarily.

[Joe Button]

No, no, not necessarily without, without the necessary. No, you don't. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's a part of you forever, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Corey ain't shit. She's a part of you forever.

[Big Parks]

You forever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't getting that off.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Girl, we got to break up. But you always be a part of me.

[Ish]

No, I don't think you with them forever. No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You, you wouldn't feel an extra sense of duty? No, no, I would.

[Joe Button]

I would, but I would.

[Flip]

That's not necessarily like they could have not been getting along anymore.

[Ish]

And like you said, when the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true, that's what she could just gave him the kitty anyway. I mean, that's, I don't know their business.

[Big Parks]

And if I were, if I were to leave her, I would leave her financially.

[Ish]

Some months.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Some money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. You taking her forever, right?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Big Parks]

And I was suffering a big lump sum of money. Enough that she could take care of herself for him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I, I would definitely feel indebted to the person.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

There's some solid people out there, man. She, she'll be all right.

[Joe Button]

Was the kidney healthy enough for me to run still? Like, could I jog after I got.

[Big Parks]

Seen him at the Nick game.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but he wasn't running.

[Big Parks]

He was walking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He wasn't running before the kidney. He was richin'.

[Flip]

Yeah. 90 million.

[Joe Button]

I ain't doing the most running without my kidney.

[Big Parks]

You ain't tapping glass.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saluting. Tracy Morgan. I don't have anything negative.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I don't have anything negative to say about him. His story just made me think about relationships and what you. If there's certain things a person could do for you that would make you never leave.

[Joe Button]

That's funny. When you brought this topic out, you had much to say about the young lady that, that he was spotted with and less to say about the person that gave him a kidney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not true. I, I, I don't have anything to say about her. She seemed like a nice woman. I couldn't see my.

[Ish]

Based off of what. Based off of what looks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Did you see that romp?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't objectify women, Joe.

[Ish]

And that blue.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't see the blue spandex. I didn't.

[Big Parks]

How you know she had on blue spandex?

[Ish]

Take that, Angela Rye. You heard him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She seemed, she seemed nice. Friendly. Friendly to the paparazzi.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

That's true. Seem like who I like to go to Melbourne.

[Ish]

You be finding the best way to say pure, son. You pretty good, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, man. I just tell the truth, man.

[Joe Button]

And what was that? A Sunday afternoon that. That. That came out. That's that good brunch on Dyckman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's just where she from. Yeah. I don't know from look. Just looking at it, I'd.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just the block.

[Ish]

Hey, come here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely was uptown special.

[Joe Button]

Where she from. Just from looking at her, I could.

[Big Parks]

Tell where she was raised.

[Flip]

Stereotypically crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, there's a deeper point I'm making about that, which is just. It plays into a stereotype that as he got more money, his partners got. They looked phenotypically different.

[Joe Button]

That's not fair.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it's fair.

[Joe Button]

Fame would do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. He was already famous. I'm saying they live. That's the narrative again. I don't know his name. This could be the love of his life. This could be an amazing person. I have no idea. Only reason I brought it up again was could just be a friend.

[Ish]

Nobody's right, though, Joe, in a way. People have shown what Mark is saying. People have shown that the more money you get is the type of women that you attract and that you start to date. There's a thing going on like that. Even y' all niggas don't want to admit it. But here's the thing. He's right. I saw it. I saw what he's saying.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

And get a little lighter. The head get a little lighter, a little fatter.

[Joe Button]

You about you taking it somewhere else. As if you know how the women look that Tracy Morgan dated.

[Ish]

I'm not talking about Tracy Morgan. I took it off of Tracy Morgan. Shout out to Tracy. I'm not talking about Tracy Morgan.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying you're talking about the old. And when he get on, he leave your ass for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We all love Tracy Morgan.

[Ish]

I ain't got shit to say about Tracy at all. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just feel like if somebody gave me a kidney, I might feel. And I might be wrong. I might stay too long. I might be miserable for the rest of my life. But feel guilty like, oh, a kidney.

[Big Parks]

Or you had enough money to make sure that they would live a. A healthy, bountiful life.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's a. That's a great point, but if. But I ain't got that kind of money. I ain't got. I can't get off the principles like this.

[Ish]

It's got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, it's got Principles. You know what else I couldn't get off?

[Big Parks]

You would do that if you had money. And you, you. If you. If you waited like, yo, dog, I'm gonna stay here with this lady and be miserable. Or I got a ton of money. I can make sure she okay. And I can go both be happy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, love.

[Joe Button]

Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's true. I could probably get off then. Speaking of things I could not get off, Barack Obama was on the campaign trail this week.

[Joe Button]

You just can't help yourself.

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is not political. It's not political.

[Flip]

It's better than him on Dick Cheney, so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's coming. I'm smoking on that Cheney pack today.

[Ish]

I don't give a. I saw your little headline.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's already on my Patreon. It's called Dick Cheney is dead.

[Joe Button]

Good, good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Be ashamed of yourself. Crazy. I mean, it's about that way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know who would monetize off the tawdry Jesus. Next be monetizing fights, right? An argument, arguments, Achilles toys, tears, all kinds of man, bro, your body going to be all right if you leave is body alone.

[Joe Button]

Brittle bones. You got scoliosis, but it's not brittle. You could be barely walk, but it didn't break.

[Big Parks]

Walk with your neck to the side.

[Joe Button]

But it didn't break.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know y' all are so observant about each other's bodies, too.

[Joe Button]

You got your ass whole waxed. You can't talk to me about body nothing. You let a put the Nair down there and.

[Ish]

No, it was la. It was laser.

[Joe Button]

Whatever. It was mute up when we talking about bodies now. What you say?

[Ish]

Big dog got him on.

[Flip]

Let's hear what Barack Obama has to say about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Barack Obama. Barack Obama was in Newark, New Jersey, on a campaign hustle, a campaign trail campaign that wasn't. I didn't mean as a disk. I mean, he's hustling through the state to try and raise awareness for the governor race, which he's involved in. And I think he's doing a great job. And I hope Mikey wins. There's no shade. But while on the campaign trail, Barack Obama got not heckled, but lightly played with by a fan of his in the audience. And here's what happen.

[Joe Button]

I love you, but hold on. I heard you, girl. Just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just settle down.

[Joe Button]

I'm here to talk to everybody, not just you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, you look cute.

[Joe Button]

But I married. Michelle's fine too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, shit.

[Ish]

Charisma, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

First of all, you can't that. Like you just said, charisma, bro. You can't teach that.

[Ish]

Can't duplicate that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't. He's just. He's a natural lad. He's everything that these other people are. Not on the campaign trail. But I'm not thinking about that part. They drew him a central cast, and there's just no better politician than Barack Obama.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's. But that. You look cute, girl. I couldn't get that off.

[Flip]

Hell, no.

[Joe Button]

Why you want it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why Parks take it for him?

[Flip]

He's married.

[Ish]

Let me ask you a question. We know.

[Big Parks]

Let me ask you a question.

[Flip]

Rem's here.

[Joe Button]

Parks's wife is here.

[Big Parks]

Let me ask you a question.

[Flip]

Shoot.

[Big Parks]

What if in your.

[Flip]

Don't change the way I pod.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I know Big Park.

[Joe Button]

Wait, who does it change the way they know.

[Ish]

Be like this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Ish]

I'm in love.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what?

[Joe Button]

Oh, no. I thought he was talking to the other married people on the part. I'm not married.

[Ish]

Totally.

[Joe Button]

I'm not married.

[Ish]

Totally. You gang, you. You change it a new.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My wife don't come to the black.

[Ish]

You change, change. OG come around. You change a little bit, it's okay.

[Joe Button]

But I'm not me. I'm not married. You are, though.

[Ish]

I am. Happily.

[Joe Button]

Just keep skipping that bring your wife to work day. You met my wife before or to the birthday dinner? I don't remember.

[Ish]

Oh, you remember my wife.

[Flip]

Yeah, I like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was good shit.

[Joe Button]

Mark. What? What's happening?

[Ish]

I do have a question for you after this, please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm just. I could. As a married person. I couldn't get that off.

[Joe Button]

Why do y' all married people think that? Because you married. That means that you can't acknowledge someone that's cute or attractive?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Acknowledging is different than shouting them out in Prudential Arena.

[Big Parks]

Let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of objectivity, the lady really wasn't even married. It was just some fly. I mean, it wasn't even cute. It was just some fly shit to say on a charismatic tip.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I said that before?

[Ish]

Yeah, Corey. I love Corey. Would Cory look up.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, tell him, bitches. I mean, still going, nigga, better chill out. You mediocre.

[Big Parks]

Let's just say again, there was some fly shit to say to calm the crowd. I just think it was a master of ceremony moment. And he got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, it ain't about her being cute or not.

[Big Parks]

No, it's not for your wife.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Cause nobody sees the woman anyway. It's just what it look. Cause to the world, it looks like you just Shouted out a cute girl in the crowd.

[Flip]

Oh, it's that deep either.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Mark is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, my wife wouldn't care about that part. But I'm just saying that she's not cute part doesn't really persuade.

[Big Parks]

It does matter if your wife really sees the person and the person ain't cute to your wife. She like, oh, that was cute, honey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But she gotta be real nice. But she gotta be real nice.

[Flip]

You.

[Big Parks]

Okay?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So park says he wouldn't kidn. Get that. I wouldn't get a flip. Would you do that?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you wouldn't yell out I'm married.

[Ish]

No, I would yell out I'm married. Everybody know I'm married, number one. And my wife trusts me and I trust her. And yeah, she's not on my hip. So what I'm saying is that yes, I will acknowledge that somebody's cute. My wife would say a man is cute as well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So if you. Oh, that's a good one. So if your wife were.

[Ish]

She said that to me before.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. Not say it to you. If she's giving a speech and a dude is yelling from the audience, she say, nigga, you fine. My husband look. My husband look good too.

[Joe Button]

Hey, yo, don't hit me. But don't, please, please don't hit me.

[Ish]

Say my wife again.

[Joe Button]

I just wanted to know who she said was cute in front of you that you were okay with. George Clooney. Like.

[Big Parks]

You said, some smooth.

[Ish]

I mean, I felt the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But no, but she said she didn't say it public. She wasn't giving a snap.

[Ish]

She said it like, oh, he's cute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, but flip the one part.

[Joe Button]

That Mark's whole is leaving out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say it. What's that?

[Ish]

Watch it.

[Joe Button]

I mean, Obama has the podcast app on his phone also, man, he done heard every podcast that Michelle been know she been talking her talk for about three and a half years. Yeah, right. I'm being nice because somebody with the last name Obama listen to this podcast.

[Ish]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

I'm chilling out. I don't want no smoke. I think I fly with the Obamas. I'm fly with what he did. But in the event that it went the way Mark is saying you could.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dis, you can take it. That's true. Yeah, he ain't did nothing wrong to me.

[Joe Button]

Like it said, you got to know that your man man is one of the more charming men in the history of America or some like don't, don't hate when he in his bag.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Does the bag.

[Joe Button]

You right Backstage. We going home together.

[Big Parks]

We live. She ain't mentioned my wife.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but he didn't even say, like, but Michelle is fine. He said Michelle is fine, too.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

If he would have said finer or.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Something, he might be one of them, because he was.

[Joe Button]

No, he did the right thing.

[Big Parks]

He did the right thing.

[Joe Button]

Y' all both are fine. Yes, you are fine. My wife is fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You are on the same tier. You're both equal.

[Joe Button]

Stop it. Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that. And contrary to what you're saying, I think that. Respectfully, I think your wife is cool enough for you to say that at.

[Ish]

At a.

[Flip]

At the Nation's features.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But whoever's in the crowd, all praise is due to Allah for this beautiful queen in the audience.

[Ish]

But that's. That's.

[Joe Button]

They bag joints at the Nation meeting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I wouldn't know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't look at the MGT that way, my brother.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it wasn't just Brittney Renner. It's joints. It's joints.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She definitely took that hijab and burned it. Yo, I ain't see.

[Ish]

I can see through your hijab, girl.

[Joe Button]

I follow some of the chicks working out in the hijab that ain't hiding nothing I can steal. That's right.

[Ish]

Nice, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't say.

[Big Parks]

Even their faces.

[Joe Button]

Gorgeous, right? Talking about something. He jabbed. Yeah, girl, you is beautiful.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he jabbed.

[Joe Button]

Anyway. Anyway, Mark, I think that you would be able to get that off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm glad you believe that.

[Joe Button]

And I think that you're that type of charm, and I think your wife would understand it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think she would understand it. She wouldn't be. She wouldn't be jealous, but I don't think she'd prefer if I called him.

[Ish]

Accused from the crowd, cuz. Mark, your wife is cool. I think it'll be the other way around, though. I think Mark is not going for his wife saying somebody's hands.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And neither is you. That's what I'm saying. You talk about some of you.

[Ish]

I just told. I'm honest. I said that I gotta play it on' cause I get it all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But she said it to you privately. If she were giving a speech and she said, nigga, you look good. My husband look good, too, though.

[Ish]

Nigga, I will be at the front door.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Ish]

I'll be at the stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You be at his front door.

[Ish]

I'll be right there. Nigga, she ain't going nowhere. Let me talk to you.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Fucking. I thought we had your speech rights. Hey, hey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, wait one second.

[Ish]

This wasn't enough.

[Joe Button]

I checked the contract. I didn't know you could give speeches. Girl, are you crazy? Get your ass back in his trunk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Back in the trunk.

[Jay Howell]

Wow.

[Ish]

I have a question for you, Mark.

[Flip]

Shout out to the Obamas, man.

[Ish]

Shout out to the Obamas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Love them.

[Big Parks]

Indeed.

[Ish]

I want to ask you a question, buddy.

[Joe Button]

It's too late. They'll kidnap you.

[Ish]

Hold on. Since you know about politics a lot.

[Joe Button]

Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The mayor runs the city. I know.

[Ish]

Mark, stop it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry.

[Ish]

People are saying that Trump may run for a third term.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Ish]

Would it be possible that Obama can go against him and also run for a third term if they open that door?

[Joe Button]

I hate when you start reading.

[Ish]

No, I'm just saying you playing around.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate when you start sitting down.

[Ish]

You sit me down on Tuesdays too, you bitch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wrong but crazy.

[Ish]

Yes, you can sit me down on Tuesday too, you ass. I'm playing. I turn up on you, son about this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Acknowledges that he was sat down, y'. All.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Ish]

Don't say Y. I get money from it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how it happens.

[Joe Button]

I want to talk about that too with him.

[Ish]

Don't shake your head at me, bro.

[Big Parks]

I'm not shaking.

[Ish]

Allow me to get what I got to get off. Don't shake. I don't indulge. I don't play in them realms that these playing. So you should know. Don't shake your head like I don't.

[Joe Button]

Know what that means.

[Ish]

Realms is engaging with people.

[Big Parks]

I'm shaking my head over.

[Joe Button]

I just.

[Ish]

Don't shake your head at me.

[Big Parks]

I'm not shaking my head at you. I'm asking you. What am I shaking my head?

[Ish]

You thought that you were shaking your head at me acknowledging that my man sat me down.

[Big Parks]

I would never know that.

[Ish]

Okay, it's a joke. But I'm just going to make sure you're not shake your head at that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz it'd be a problem.

[Big Parks]

Well, it's not going to be like a halfway joke.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As. As, as, as.

[Ish]

You're not going to play with me. Y. You know how I said a joke?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you act like you.

[Ish]

Why you be trying to feed into them? Act like you playing with me. Like, stop playing like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you, you. I did do it more, but to.

[Ish]

The benefits of me.

[Joe Button]

That's how I go when y' all do.

[Ish]

Always try to reverse it and get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz when y' all do it, I.

[Joe Button]

Assume it's fun time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is.

[Ish]

I'm down with fun time.

[Flip]

Was that a clementine huh? The OR is even older.

[Ish]

This threw somebody through it over here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I threw that Joe. And he's been holding on to it. Yeah.

[Ish]

But answer my question. Let's get back to that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So, to answer your question, obviously, no one can run for a third term. I know you know that, but I'm just saying for the audience out there who may not. No one can run for a third term. The 22nd Amendment prevents that from happening. They also can't run, despite the conspiracy theories, for vice president, for the same reason, because of the order of succession, so. Cause people were saying maybe JD Vance will run and Trump will be his vice president. That's also forbidden by the.

[Joe Button]

I'm saying. People are saying, he said that shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He doesn't know the Constitution, which is unfortunate.

[Ish]

So what I'm saying, if he tries to.

[Joe Button]

And I don't believe. I didn't believe him when he said. But it's clear he dogs the question.

[Big Parks]

And they serious.

[Flip]

He dodged the question in the 60 Minutes interview this weekend.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if you'll watch Bannon.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Steve Bannon got up there. Yeah, that dude's fucking serious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And was like, yo, fam, it's going to happen. So to answer your question, if. If the only way would happen is with the constitutional amendment change, which would then allow anybody to run for a third term, including Obama. Yes. Got it. Okay.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So there's been some tension in the room and.

[Ish]

No, there has not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My job. There's been no tension today.

[Flip]

A lot of tension.

[Joe Button]

Body is. Oh, you mean with me and Flip all the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a sexual tension. Y' all threw it to.

[Joe Button]

Sexual tension.

[Ish]

Sexual tension.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Audience.

[Flip]

Judge for yourself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, I'm just trying to keep these.

[Flip]

It started with a tickle fight.

[Ish]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's been so much more weird shit today. But you sat him down. Okay, this.

[Joe Button]

This is what I'll say. And it's not. I sat him down because I'm not agreeing with none of that that's being said or even what he just said. Right, Right. But what I'm saying is I know that when the chatter get a certain way out there, because I might not speak to Flip or I might not speak to you. Like, right. It'll be a Tuesday, and then we won't speak and it'll be Friday. We see each other. I know when the chatter gets as such, without speaking to him. I know that he saw it. Everything. Everything I saw. He saw facts. And he is looking at it different than me.

[Ish]

I believe that he Believed you invited me on Friday. That he sees you invited me on Friday. You sent me a text to come through on Friday, bro. At 3pm you sent me a text.

[Joe Button]

I sent you the text that I sent Imani.

[Ish]

Yo, we have some tables, some Mac and cheese, some chicken.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't think come catch a vibe. Them niggas out there is talking about Flip has been demoted. Hear it from my mouth. Flip hasn't been demoted. If anything, she's being paid the exact he's being paid. No, no, no. I want to clear it up because I want people to understand how I look at it. Flip has a lot going on outside of here that I acknowledge. Like I acknowledge him as a content creator outside of what goes on at this network. Like at a high scale one. So if there's time off to be had, he's at the top of my list to get it because of that. Two, Flip can't sit still for certain amounts of time. It's one of them things where if you give somebody, if you take a little bit off the plate, you might get more in return. So then there's that with Flip. And Flip's pay is exactly the same. So the rumors going around about Flip has been demolished. It. I get it.

[Flip]

Y' all just got Quinn Williams.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, who just got Quinn Williams?

[Flip]

Cowboys.

[Joe Button]

What? Quinn Williams.

[Flip]

Quinn Williams from the Jets.

[Ish]

For what money?

[Flip]

I don't think I got the terms out yet. First round pick.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the jets on fire sale. Yeah, fire the jets on fire sale. Mo, it's a great pick for. For the Cowboys.

[Flip]

That's a great, amazing pickup. That's one of the best DTS in the game.

[Joe Button]

Coach my not make it. That just. Coach might not make it.

[Flip]

He might not.

[Joe Button]

But anyway, yeah, so I'm just saying I appreciate that. I don't look at it like tension even if I believe that Flip be reading the and believing the like you.

[Ish]

Think you think do you read and believe? Sometimes, but not that I do read and believe things if it aligns. Cuz some we don't want to acknowledge it, but some be aligning a lot of this.

[Joe Button]

Be aligning.

[Ish]

Some be aligning like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I don't.

[Ish]

You start to think that if somebody is feeding information, you know, you start.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To think like there's a mole or something.

[Ish]

Well, I think that, but nah, I don't think so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I think? I think, I mean there could be.

[Ish]

A mole because they use me. They say your Flip is the one that opened that door to bring behind the scenes shit on The. To the forefront. Which is true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is true.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

But in my mind, I'm very careful on what I say. But you think so? I think so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Ish]

I think I say things to push the line, but I think I'm careful. I think I'm careful, Mark.

[Joe Button]

Correct.

[Guest Artist]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Salute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salute. I stuff you, Mark. I don't want no problems.

[Ish]

I love you.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Ish]

They said, I feel the way that.

[Joe Button]

You up here already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. N. You definitely don't feel the way I'm up here.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Mark's up here being a meanie today. Mark's being a mean.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just trying to direct traffic.

[Joe Button]

You're doing a good job.

[Ish]

You're doing a good job. Great job, man.

[Joe Button]

It's a lot of traffic out there. He the.

[Ish]

He the. In the middle street.

[Joe Button]

Hey. Yeah.

[Ish]

He's doing a great job.

[Joe Button]

And next time I invite you over for chicken and Mac, hit me back.

[Ish]

I was thinking about my man.

[Flip]

I should have me asleep throughout.

[Joe Button]

That didn't hit me back at all. Left me right on red.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, wow.

[Ish]

I was doing something you doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was on.

[Ish]

I was on my way upstate.

[Joe Button]

No beef.

[Ish]

Yeah, I was on my way upstate.

[Joe Button]

No beef.

[Ish]

And they said you went up there before that. Upstate Horror House. They said Joe went up there. That when you walk through five to six houses. They said Joe was up there.

[Joe Button]

They told me, sure, I've been there. I. I've been to.

[Ish]

That shit is scary.

[Joe Button]

I've probably been to any of them you could drive to. Like, that was my thing.

[Ish]

That's what they told me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, that was my thing. I'm glad y' all had fun.

[Ish]

Thank you very much.

[Joe Button]

E. Came up here, got some Mac and shit.

[Ish]

Shout out to my man.

[Joe Button]

He wasn't here too. Why they didn't say. He got demoted.

[Ish]

E. I love you, E. I think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That story's coming out today.

[Joe Button]

If they're smart.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I keep telling them, you gotta stack these, you gotta stagger these releases.

[Joe Button]

Otherwise, go ahead and shout out to Patreon one more time for him. Just let him know where to find some of this stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. Mark Lamont Hill official, man. Go to Patreon, man. Check me out.

[Joe Button]

Early lead story there today. Let's get a little sneak peek of that Dick Cheney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dick Cheney.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace, Dick Cheney.

[Ish]

Look at you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Dick Cheney passed away at 84 years old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's it. And there's also a classic interview I did with Prodigy where he's talking about Jay Z and the Illuminati. It's up there on my. On my thing that I did with him before he passed away.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace, Pete.

[Flip]

Happy birthday.

[Joe Button]

Yep. This is Happy Birthday. P.S.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That'S why I put it out. You know, it was to his birthday. So shout out to him. Make sure you check it out. I appreciate the shout out, man.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man. At least I could do when you're monetizing some of our favorite MCs that passed away.

[Ish]

Monetizing death.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Come on. I gotta shout you out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's it. Oh.

[Joe Button]

Tell us about Dick Cheney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dick Cheney's dead.

[Flip]

He is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm not happy about it. But for those that don't know.

[Flip]

Not sad either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm definitely not sad about it. Dick Cheney was vice president. The most powerful vice president President in American history. By far. Before that, obviously. He's from Wyoming. He was in the House of Representatives. He was also a chief of staff in the Ford administration. But he's best known for being one of the architects of George Bush's presidency. George Bush in a lot of ways. 02. 2000-2008-2000-2008. 2008.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was not just vice president, but really the designer behind so much of the policies that George W. Bush enacted. Usually vice presidents are in a corner somewhere minding their own business. It's very much like the show Veep. It's like in their own world, doing little shit.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But he directed everything. The most important thing being the invasion of Iraq.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Manufacturing the lie that there were weapons of mass destruction and leading to the complete decimation of Iraq. Also the violation of our civil liberties, warrantless wiretapping, torture. All kinds of things being done here under the pretext that we got to keep America safe.

[Joe Button]

The Patriot Act.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Patriot Act. Exactly. We got to keep America safe. Which was ushered in quickly. So there's the lies of weapons of mass destruction. There's the manufacture of an entire war and destruction of the entire Middle East.

[Flip]

And profiting off it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And profiting off of it from Halliburton.

[Big Parks]

Halliburton.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was part of.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He had a private investment in the company that does the cleanup after you destroy companies, these countries from war.

[Big Parks]

And they lost a shit ton of money. They had given Halliburton all this money, and they said literally billions of dollars vanished. Quote, unquote, vanished. And then we allowed him to take Halliburton from the United States and go register it, I think, in Dubai so.

[Ish]

He wouldn't have to pay federal tax on the money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Like, yo, Dawg, these niggas just be playing a game, fam.

[Flip]

They want to cut off some SNAP benefits and shit, do whatever the fuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They want, just right. Exactly. And some of the complaints we have about Trump right now came because they fought to expand executive power back then so that they could do more, which had been restricted since the Nixon administration and the Watergate scandal. So, basically, so many of the problems that we see right now are direct result of George W. Bush's administration, which is a direct result of people like Karl Rove and others, but especially, especially Dick Cheney. And not for nothing, he also shot his friend in the face while hunting. I mean, he just. He just don't stop.

[Ish]

He got away with it.

[Flip]

He got away with it Scott free.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Scott Fred. He got dude to be like, I was cool. I didn't mind.

[Joe Button]

He apolog.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did apologize. That's true. That's what I do when I shoot people in the face.

[Joe Button]

And it wasn't a face, right? It was a graze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He grazed him in the face. He shot him in the face.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but he grazed him.

[Ish]

He got hit in the face full on.

[Big Parks]

It was a shotgun. My.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What are you talking about? Some pony. Cory's like, yo, it's just some pellets. But. So he's dead. And.

[Ish]

Mark, family might be listening.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, family, if you're listening. No, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do that.

[Big Parks]

Don't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll just say this. Cause, you know, Lyn Chaney's a decent person. He has a great family. But so did the people in Iraq who were killed. So did all. I mean, he's responsible for the deaths of millions of people. So I'm. You know, his family can mourn. I allow them to mourn. But I'm not gonna protect 10. Just like Hulk Hogan. He's 10 times worse than Hulk Hogan. Talk was interpersonally, a piece of. This guy is structurally, institutionally, systemically a piece of. So, you know, smoking on that Cheney pack today.

[Ish]

Corey.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna stop Mark's. I'm not going to interrupt Mark's views about it. I mean, I sound like a broken record with how I feel about when people die, so I'm not even gonna. I'm not even gonna waste your time with it. Y' all hate them. Get y' all off. Use this as a time.

[Ish]

We gotta research them all. That's all it is, Marcus.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well researched.

[Ish]

And he knows the details.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People got A right to disagree. Right, Madam, Cheney's a sack of.

[Big Parks]

No, he was.

[Joe Button]

He was a sack of. I'm not. I'm not arguing that, dog.

[Big Parks]

They had a show called Cheney like he. That he was the vp. He ran rings around George Bush.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Are you gonna celebrate every time somebody dies that you don't like?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't do that. People die all the time. I don't like.

[Joe Button]

If Trump dies, are you gonna celebrate?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you know what, though? I take. Probably not.

[Joe Button]

You know what? Yeah, I'm done with you, Mar.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. I'm gonna be happy. For me. It's important to speak publicly about it. When the dominant narrative misrepresents the person's legacy, there's gonna be so many people saying the Trump ain't shit. I don't necessarily need to take hours to do it. I will clearly be like, trump is dead.

[Joe Button]

Yay. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yay. I'm not pretending I won't.

[Joe Button]

But I don't necessarily did it for Hulk Hogan. You gonna do it for the rest.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of it, for sure. But the difference is the dominant narrative was Hulk Hogan is a hero. So I need y' all to know. No, he wasn't. His dominant narrative is Dick Cheney's the vice President. He's a hero. No, he wasn't. But, you know, I don't do it for everybody. I do it when I feel like it's a necessary intervention.

[Joe Button]

If something would have happened to J.D. vance, what would you say?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, same. I will go in. I will go in.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Okay. So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Yeah, I ain't got no pics. I mean, I'm gonna go in on everybody. I'm just saying sometimes I'm louder for the person. My loudest voice isn't always for the person who's the worst. It's sometimes for the person who's being protected the most. I'm just trying to tell the truth, that's all.

[Ish]

And educate our brothers and sisters.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

As you leave Party City with balloons in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Button]

Confetti.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

The Old School Kazoo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the name of it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man, oh, man, it's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Well, now I don't.

[Ish]

I don't even say the same question to you. But you don't celebrate. You don't believe in that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't do that.

[Ish]

It could be your worst enemy.

[Joe Button]

It could be the worst. Yeah, I don't.

[Ish]

I agree with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And there's a. There's a very wise belief in that. I just don't share, cuz I Don't.

[Joe Button]

Think it's about how evil the other person was. Like, for me, it's not about that. It's about my belief system. And if I don't want people to die, I don't want. I'm against death.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm against death.

[Joe Button]

Like, I'm not going to champion one person dying and one person living like that. It makes it too sticky for me. I wouldn't be able to sleep.

[Ish]

Because how I feel like.

[Joe Button]

I feel like I'm connected to God. Shut up, Corey. I feel like I'm connected to God. So I could. I would be able to. I can't root. I can't be connected to God and root for somebody to die like me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't root for that. But when it happens, I feel like when you do that, you're doing good riddance.

[Ish]

Hold on, Mark. I feel like when you do that, right, you're doing the same thing the other side does when a black person dies. Like you're doing the same exact thing. You know, when somebody like Sandra Bland or somebody dies, people make fun. And I feel like you're doing it. You're doing the same exact thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I try to, but by using.

[Ish]

You're using facts of how you're showing a person a piece of shit. But you do come off in a celebratory way, if you understand what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If people perceive me celebrating when someone who killed millions of people, I'm not talking about 10 right now, dies, I can live with that. That's not my intent. But if I can live with that, I'm okay being perceived that way.

[Ish]

Yeah. No, I understand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So I can live with it. Yeah. I'm good.

[Joe Button]

I'm good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel great.

[Ish]

You do. You look great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Eh, thank you.

[Big Parks]

I ain't opposed to it. It's just not my bag.

[Flip]

Same.

[Big Parks]

I think it's a little tacky. It ain't really my thing to be celebrating somebody's death.

[Ish]

Cause he thought so.

[Big Parks]

So smooth.

[Ish]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

Or really shitting on. Well, how do you feel about. And this is my last question on this. Because everybody has the right to whatever. No, no. Everybody just has their own right. To each his own. But how do you feel about when good people or when people or places or corporations that are championed as good hire people from that evil person's regime that died to work? How do you feel about that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not sure if I'll let. Give me an example.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Like, Dick Cheney died. Let's say that he had people on Team Dick Cheney. That Agree with his politics and ideologies and feel the exact same way and champion him. I'm assuming you view those people as pieces of shit the way you are viewing Chaney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sort of, yeah.

[Joe Button]

How do you feel about his team being hired?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I see. I would oppose it. For me, it's about the ideology. It's not about the per. You know what I mean? And for me, Dictionary, there are people who look at the world different than me, but Dick Cheney took his worldview and imposed it in ways that did a lot of harm. So that's my biggest issue with him. It's not that he sees the world different. Everybody sees the world differently. You know what I mean?

[Big Parks]

And you could work for somebody and not necessarily agree with their policies or they.

[Flip]

Shit. True.

[Big Parks]

You putting food on the table for your family. I think that if you agree with the person and how they felt and how they saw shit and how they viewed and looked at people.

[Joe Button]

People.

[Big Parks]

I think that's a little up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Because you could hire somebody that you don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, I mean, look at y'.

[Guest Artist]

All.

[Joe Button]

Because I want to say something that I don't want to be said on air. So let's stop this so I could say it, and then we'll come right back in.

[Flip]

And we're back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. That was a powerful point you made.

[Joe Button]

I'm glad you did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In all seriousness. Yeah. It was a great point.

[Big Parks]

Amazing.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

One day they'll find out. I'll tell you a little Patriot Michael, my nail official.

[Ish]

I'm gonna be right there, too.

[Joe Button]

I'm doing one. Selling his ass. Yeah. Walking backwards in the street. Listen prayers to my brother. I Listen, I. He's been in my prayers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But he's finally going public with his condition. I want to shout out Royce the 59 for sure.

[Flip]

Royce, we love you.

[Joe Button]

You already know, Royce. You already know, man. And if I talk too much, I'll cry up here, so I won't.

[Flip]

Or.

[Joe Button]

But Royce revealed what he's been dealing with behind the scenes to some of the people who have been wondering why he's been quiet. In the article on Rolling Stone, Royce revealed that for the past several years, he's been dealing with lingual dystonia, a neurological condition where he says there's some kind of interruption in the nerve firing off in my tongue, causing spasms that hindered him from talking and recording music. Music. I want to say, as a recording artist and someone that relies on recording to pay your bills, this is one of the scariest things I've ever even imagined somebody dealing with.

[Flip]

Especially because he didn't, I don't think maybe still to this day, I haven't read the article, but in my last conversations, they didn't really know exactly how to define it or.

[Joe Button]

Well, he continues here, my cranial nerves, and I don't know what any of this means. Means right. And I may be the words up. He says my cranial nerves and my vagus nerve were all inflamed. I got a genetic condition called the COMT gene that processes dopamine slower than normal.

[Flip]

Huh.

[Joe Button]

And when I did neurochemistry tests, I found the left hemisphere of my brain produces less dopamine than the right. So not only is it less dopamine, but it's an imbalance as well. When your dopamine is low, that's like Parkinson's, adhd. I had involuntary movements in my face and my tongue. So they went on this long. So they went on this long thing where they would put me on all these different kinds of medicines. He says he went through several improper diagnosis. And this is where what you were saying comes in. But he's almost through it and has started recording again. Again. I wish I was recording when we were doing this album. He says he's talking about the Big L album that he executive produced.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Again, prayers up to Royce. I love you. You are one of the strongest people I know. So even though this seems like the toughest battle in the universe, I think you got this.

[Flip]

Yeah, for sure. I know other artists that have gone through similar things too. So hopefully he can continue to be a mouthful piece to, no pun intended, to maybe help someone else that may be going through something similar.

[Joe Button]

I cannot imagine going through it. Right. And this has been for years now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

And this is coming off. I think he was just Grammy nominated. His last project or the project before the last. Like, he had a lot of great going on. So for this to happen, just did. My heart goes out to Royce. My entire orchestra shout out to Royce.

[Ish]

I have a question for you. You don't let people in, right? And you're very critical of people. I mean, that's your job. What makes you allow someone in your life or in your heart where you have that love for them, what do they have to do? What do they have to show you where you can say, yo, I love you from the bottom of my heart. I'm here, like, cause you very critical. Even if you're friends with somebody, we just talking about somebody. You could be friends with somebody. They could say Say something. Or you could see something, and you fire off or fire off at them. It could be for the gig or just how you feel.

[Joe Button]

But when you asked me this, I thought about this the other day. You're good at that. Asking me some shit I thought about recently. But my answer to this. And I don't care if it don't make sense to people. I judge people off of how we are in the foxhole. Word. Like I feel the way I feel about Parks. Cause I've been in foxhole with Parks. True. I've been in the. In the foxhole with Ice.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I've been in the foxhole with Royce. I've been in the foxhole with Ish. Even though I mean his body ain't bad. I put some sauce on your body's all right. Yo. Skipping deals. But know what I mean. You know what I'm saying?

[Ish]

Got you.

[Joe Button]

So, like, I know that that may be an extreme way to. To judge things, but that's how I do.

[Flip]

That's real, though. Someone shows up when is not great and stays. And stays.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And I'm saying even not that. But we got a mission. We got a mission. We got a goal. Life is dependent on the decisions we make while we down here.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to second guess that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And sometimes I want to be able.

[Joe Button]

To trust and rely on the person standing next to me. I want to know what the shortcomings are, know what the strong suits are. I'm not just kicking it with everybody. That's not my style.

[Flip]

And sometimes someone. You in a jam, in a pickle of any sort, whether it's some street shit or some financial shit, business shit, creative shit, whatever. And someone shrivels up or does some funny shit. And you're always gonna look at them funny for the rest of your life.

[Big Parks]

Indeed.

[Flip]

And it goes the opposite way when someone shows the fuck up for you.

[Joe Button]

You're like.

[Guest Artist]

Like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Can't really say nothing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I can't just get it. Yeah. That's. That's me. Royce. I love you, Royce. I love you.

[Flip]

Love you, too, Roy.

[Joe Button]

And now you that were harassing me when Roy did his interview up here with a toothpick in his mouth. And y', all. Why the does he have a toothpick?

[Flip]

Just thinking about that.

[Joe Button]

Why did Joe let him talk with a toothpick? Hey, somebody. Sometimes the person that invited the guests know a little more about the situation than y' all viewing at home.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Flip]

Correct.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Flip]

And that goes to so many layers Better broadcasting.

[Joe Button]

He knows how it sounds when that toothpick in it. Hey, it's a I love with a condition up here that I want to talk to about. I want to talk to. Right. What y' all talking about out there? Hey, what's up, man? Pause.

[Ish]

Got that jacket.

[Joe Button]

Why you. Why you in here by yourself, man? With Gina?

[Guest Artist]

That.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you didn't understand. All right, all right. You didn't get it all. DJ head is up here. But I was told Gina was coming, too. Who was Who? I was excited to come. I'm sorry. Damn.

[Flip]

We like to have head.

[Joe Button]

I was just head. I've been on tour with head. This just head, though, the genus. You know what I mean?

[Flip]

N. Don't do that.

[Joe Button]

Come on, yo, you gonna come up here on a doo without Gina. View views.

[Flip]

Shout out to Gina.

[Joe Button]

You know, we wanted to talk to Gina. Views. You already did. Rory and dude podcast. We wanted to see Gina, too. You did that. Y' all did the whole debate off. I seen it.

[Ish]

Hey, what up, baby?

[Joe Button]

A idiot head. No, hey, see my head know me. I'm glad that the people that know me know I'm on like, and they just accepting it. To know me, to love me.

[Ish]

Yo, you'd be all but to know.

[Joe Button]

Me, to love me. And if you don't know me, then why the is you around anyhow? Anyhow, we got some. We got some. Y' all been sleeping on.

[Big Parks]

Oh, no.

[Flip]

We gotta shout out Nori for finishing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Hold up. Nah. Round of applause for Nori.

[Flip]

Ain't anybody else that completed the marathon. I had a good friend in the marathon that finished my man. He's been training for two years. Shout out to Aaron.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Flip]

Tore his calf or something last year right before the marathon. So this was his redo, but shots.

[Joe Button]

Back to Nori, man, Nor is another one. Yo, for you to have. I went on tour with Nori early. It was a Sig off. It was nothing but Sigs and spades.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So for him to have quit smoking and running a marathon 26 months miles is crazy.

[Big Parks]

No, 26 miles. All that weight.

[Joe Button]

He lost weight. He got a good time. I think it's five hours and change. Shout out to Nori. Man, what a rebrand. From drink champs to run champs. Come on, let me get the round of applause again. That is not to go unnoticed at all. Nori, you another one. We love you, man. For 20, 26, I'm gonna start shouting out the I love and talk about y' all a little more than the niggas. I hate Words I'm give that a try. It's a lot of niggas I love and who would know because I'm up here just shooting at Logic all day. Don't worry, I got y' all 20, 26. I'm gonna make a change for once in my life. All right, we got sleepers. Sleeper sleepers, right?

[Flip]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Button]

All right. I think I'm going with a human. A human.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nice.

[Flip]

Step one.

[Joe Button]

A human. And I. I think, I think that this song is absolute heat. Played this gentleman before up here goes by the name of Yay Le Shout out to Y Shout out to Yay. This song is called she Knows featuring Dende and Amari Noel. And it goes a little something like this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Midnight I say she.

[Joe Button]

Been posing about you every day See your face when them group pictures and y' all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at me I ain't trying to hate but I know I got a.

[Joe Button]

Lot to do with it Cuz if I didn't leave she would have stay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's a that I just couldn't.

[Joe Button]

Take but if I go and nobody.

[Guest Artist]

Like.

[Ish]

I.

[Joe Button]

Mean she might drop dead Is.

[Guest Artist]

She knows she knows she know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She knows.

[Guest Artist]

She know that she I know me she know that you not like me she knows and she came close friends going d me trying to on me how could you ever try to play with like I did Knows I know that you know that she.

[Joe Button]

Know Shout out to Yay Ali friend of the show. That record is called she Knows featuring Dende Anamari Noel. That record is available on your phone and DSPS right this very second. Again, really good song. Shout out to Y Ali man, that's dope.

[Flip]

Speaking of rice, I'm going to go to this big album. This is how will I make it? It's in the latter half of the album, which I thought was all freestyle. And this one kind of snuck in there. I'd never heard this song before. So here we go.

[Jay Howell]

Some people was born in heaven with a silver spoon in their mouth and had everything on a silver platter and never had to work hard for nothing. Then there are some people that was born in the opposite world or those that was born in heaven which is called hell and had the rich cost of everything they got it never had nothing right and never will I'm only at the age of 10 in life already seems to me like it's hatting for a dead end use My mama be smoking mad crack My pops went out for a fast snack and never brought his ass back Nobody knows how I feel Is Quite ill Cause I had to still to fill my stomach with a nice meal Too ashamed to walk the streets Wearing the same cheap sleeps and dirty outfits for women weeks even my holidays got damaged Cause on Christmas I asked Santa for a father and a hot sandwich I just can't take it and every day I ask myself how will I make it? It seems like my life been closed ever since I was a child how will I make it? I won't that's how I walk around with a frown I got a reason to smile and how will I make it? I won't Times was rough, I had to throw up foul and how will I make it? I won't that's how I always knew that I'll end up Doing time on the owl and how will I make it? I won't that's how five years pass by now I'm at the age of 15 no more fun and games it's time to get cream Cause I'm about to burst it's like my life was cursed I went to church, prayed every day and it still got worse Soon I ran into a couple of guns Started stalking the street Slate rob suckers for fun now every day I creep with the heat ain't nothing sweet I rob for meat if I don't steal.

[Joe Button]

I don't eat.

[Jay Howell]

Too far Brought this brother named you More than got snatched.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By the blue car Where I grew.

[Jay Howell]

Up in was a living hell Then I started to realize I'm better off in the prison cell Now I can sleep, now I can eat can't hit skins But I wasn't hitting sp When I was in the street and your watches can't take it and every day I ask myself how will I make it? It seems like my life's been cursed ever since I was a child and how will I make it? I won't that's how I walk around with a frown I got no reason to smell and how will I make it? I'll go, that's how hey yo Times was rough I had to throw up foul and how will I make it? I w that sound I'm I always knew that I'll end up doing time on the AL and how will I make it? I wrote that Sal Doing time was full of stress G All the fightings and stabbings and men finding men sexy One tried to test me, didn't find a humorous Beat him with a pillowcase filled with cans of tuna fish My time came to a cease I'm back on the streets again I hope I Don't get snatched by the beast again. But it's getting crazy hectic cause I'm broken up naked and can't get a job cause of my jail record. Before you know it I was robbing them same ducks. I even started robbing homeless folks for the exchange cops. My whole life was deserted. Either Imma go back to jail or get murdered but do I deserve it? All I tried to do was live the one life that I got but it seems like I can't get a fair shot I just can't take it and every day I act ask myself how will I make it? It seems like my life's been pushed.

[Flip]

Ever since That's Big L. How will I make it? Rest in peace Big L. Shout out to Royce, Mike, Ditc, the whole family of Big L. Check out the project now it's fire.

[Big Parks]

I'm going to. Gentleman's name is Jay Howell and the song is called Hon.

[Joe Button]

No longer make.

[Guest Artist]

Amends so why hold on? We used to let up until the sun comes up let's start the fire when we're just burning Baby I just want you to be honest, true, hurry broken from try not to throw fit Hands up I plead the fifth Both our backs against the wall this time I had enough Keep going back and forth we both know that this in love Even if we try to say goodbye all the good times away the bad times I can't deny.

[Joe Button]

I.

[Guest Artist]

I just want you to be honest you don't understand baby.

[Flip]

That is the, I'm assuming, very human J. Howell with honest. That was a dope ass synth solo at the end. Mark, what you got for us today?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Olivia Dean?

[Flip]

Well, my wife just put me onto Olivia Dean.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's fire, man. She got a bunch of. She got a new single out that I'm not picking, but she has one that I love. It's called so Easy to Fall In Love.

[Flip]

Let's hear it.

[Guest Artist]

I could be the twist the one to make you stop the icing on your cake the cherry on the top is heaven in my heart and we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Could find you some space.

[Guest Artist]

I could be the world to you the missing piece that extra sentimental kind of chemistry Some people, people make it hard with me that isn't the case. Cause I make it so easy to fall in love so come give me a call and we'll fall into us I'm the perfect mixer Rest of your life Anyone with no heart would agree Easy it's so easy to fall in love with the way I do my hair the way I make you Laugh the way we like to share A walk in central part I could be fresh air Might be the girl of your dreams there's no need to hide if you're into me Cuz I'm into you Quite inside Suddenly maybe one I could turn into three Will I'm down to see if I make it so easy to fall in love so come give me a call and fall into us on perfect mix up Saturday night and then the rest of your life Any one with a heart With GRE it's so easy Fall in love.

[Joe Button]

This is fire.

[Guest Artist]

Spend the rest of your life and one with a heart it's so easy.

[Joe Button]

Who sleep was that? That was Fire.

[Flip]

That's Olivia Dean.

[Joe Button]

That was Mark.

[Flip]

So easy to fall in love with me her album is Fire. Just put me on last. Last week. This weekend.

[Joe Button]

Well, Advil, Lavine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That sound good.

[Joe Button]

That boy Mark is good. Now it ain't even go yet.

[Flip]

No, it's went.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's went.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool, Cool.

[Joe Button]

He played Heat.

[Ish]

He played Heat.

[Joe Button]

He played Heat. He played a human.

[Flip]

It was a human.

[Joe Button]

I think it was a human this time.

[Flip]

It's hard to tell nowadays.

[Joe Button]

Look at me when I'm talking to you. Yo. Yo. This year you got one more month for not looking at me when I'm talking to you too. In 2026.

[Big Parks]

What's going on?

[Guest Artist]

Happen.

[Flip]

Tickles.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A lot of tickles.

[Flip]

A lot of tickles, man.

[Big Parks]

Hey, yo, you know that. That weight ain't. That is deceptive. What you mean your chin don't got no muscles.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Big Parks]

You think going to the gym going to have you just out here, man.

[Joe Button]

He. Man. Yeah. You know what's funny about that? You too. Let me share some. I ain't got no business sharing. I was doing so good too. It. I got to let the audience and on my personal life, naturally. Okay. So I did go to eat some the other day and she's been saying it's been a while, but I didn't think that was the truth. But when I did it, I realized all that gym. You still got to work them jobs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They got nothing to do with.

[Joe Button]

Like. Yeah, because it's Charlie or in your mouth. You got to start just banging your head on it.

[Guest Artist]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

No, I was.

[Ish]

In his mouth.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no. It was bad. Baby, if you listening. I love you.

[Big Parks]

Start doing a De La Hoya show.

[Joe Button]

Nah, he been working his jaw before the fight. We got to do some joy. We got to do this more often type of thing.

[Ish]

Oh, man. Yo, we didn't before.

[Joe Button]

We Go.

[Ish]

We ain't talk about the job, Moran.

[Flip]

We will pass those Patreons.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a good Patreon topic.

[Ish]

All right, cuz. I ain't like that.

[Joe Button]

I feel you. You didn't like what I ain't like.

[Ish]

I don't think he said anything that bad.

[Joe Button]

He's out of here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with Flip, though.

[Ish]

To be suspended, you know, man, I think that just a label put on him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Ish]

When it comes to him, you know, real quick, before we get the Patreons, like, you know, talent opened the door, but, you know.

[Joe Button]

Hey, John Morant. Listen, man. Number two draft pick. That was design. Draft. It was a lot of Hope. R.J. barrett went third. You were electrifying. You were jumping over people doing that tomahawk dunk. Then you pulled out the gun, and the league kind of turned their back on you a little bit.

[Ish]

Oh, come on, Joe. Don't do that to him.

[Joe Button]

Then the organization had enough of your. They pulled some of the Nike commercials, fired your favorite coach, put a new coach in there. Coach that had enough of that. Now they want you to just stand in the corner and shoot threes, man. Fire sale. Everybody's for sale. Everybody can go. You're gonna get out of there first thing. Smoking FedEx. You're gonna get to Miami, Portland, where else you can go, man, we. And we love you. One of the best black point guards that we've seen in a while. But sometimes it just don't matter, man. No matter how great. Great you are, they'll ship you right out of town, man. Band your dad from the arena. T. Moran can't even come no more. Damn, man. Damn. John Moran, if you're listening, we love you. We do. We wish you nothing but the best, man. But it won't. It won't be a Memphis.

[Guest Artist]

Sorry, love. Always something to get over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I.

[Joe Button]

Do you think this is one of the best 200 songs ever made?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

200?

[Joe Button]

300. Yeah. Even 505.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. If I hear. I'm listening to some little bias. This is my.

[Joe Button]

This would have to be one of the best five songs ever made.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, five.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to go crazy with three. Yeah.

[Guest Artist]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, that's not where I was ending. Here we go. Back in my Ross bag. We'll talk more about John Moran on Patreon, man. Make sure you subscribe. It's really important that you subscribe right this second during this little fourth quarter blitz. Patreon on Forward slash. Joe Button or forward slash Mark Lamont or forward slash queens Flip or forward slash erotic erotica. Whatever he's going by these days, Flip the network.

[Ish]

Not Queen. Somebody stole my.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what the his name is anymore. He found so many E playoffs.

[Ish]

He body that too.

[Joe Button]

He be killing it though, yo. He's gonna run out of E E Harmony. Just guys. Amazing, yo. Hopefully you enjoyed this podcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. We love each and every one of y' all out there.

[Flip]

Indeed.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to anybody that might be fighting a silent battle. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you ado farewell. Adios, Ara duri a vista ar simple. So long goodbye will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the close minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.

[Ish]

Make honest get a bad every post up like comments. They don't know what I've been through.

[Joe Button]

Don't know what I'm going through. What you boys week looking like? Anything fun? Anything interesting? What y' all got going on?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got nothing.

[Joe Button]

Just work. Working. That's it. Working. Mixing, mastering. That's it. Working. Building houses. You building houses this week? Oh, that's funny too. Let me tell y'.

[Guest Artist]

All.

[Joe Button]

Let me tell y' all how I know I'm a ass. This is funny too. I should have saved all this for Patreon.

[Flip]

You still could.

[Joe Button]

No, because I don't want to talk about it. I just want to throw it out there and keep it pushing. I don't want to hear yalls opinion on it.

[Flip]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

So I told y', all. I think I'm. I think I'm pretty sure that I'm gonna build a home.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Do you know the very first thing that came to my mind?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How big your closet was gonna be?

[Joe Button]

That's close to being a big. It's even bitchier than that bathroom. That's a good guess, too. It's even bitchier than that.

[Flip]

I don't even know staircase.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you are a.

[Guest Artist]

It's gonna look like a princess.

[Flip]

I have to feel like a princess when I'm coming down the stairs. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I don't care neither. I know how it sounds. Y' all are right about how it sounds. But for you to say first, I want as sexy as their kids.

[Flip]

That is some.

[Joe Button]

Yeah know I'm a. I'm a bitch. I want something that curves, spin around.

[Flip]

It's like a twirl when I'm wearing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

New cowards is I'm a.

[Joe Button]

You build houses.

[Big Parks]

I ain't think it was you just said some about a shoe closet or something. Then that's but the fly staircase.

[Joe Button]

For that to be the first thing to come to your mind, you might be a little.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I agree.

[Joe Button]

I want to fly staircase. I don't care what y' all say about me.

[Big Parks]

I know.

[Joe Button]

Yo, y' all hold it down out there, man. We'll be back same time, same. Same place. This weekend, maybe? Yes, sir.

[Ish]

Maybe like Salt Lake City.

[Joe Button]

What else?

[Ish]

No tents on that pretty ass Bentley. Want you to know that comments don't offend me.

[Joe Button]

Why? Cuz?

[Ish]

Your baby mama so friendly I weed in my hand. Money over friendly, boy.

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Ish]

Can't keep her in the house. You too friendly.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, man, shout out to Jontay Murray, man. Salute. Yeah, when you've been on three teams in three years, man, she ain't staying home. Hey, we know you got a big contract, but let's get some stability with.

[Flip]

One of these teams.

[Joe Button]

Y' all hold it down out there, man. Be safe, be friendly, be dangerous.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As I get high in the middle of the night.

[Joe Button]

You've never heard of Joe, buddy.

[Guest Artist]

Where would you be without the jvp?

[Joe Button]

We'll fold that up right now.