Episode 876 | "Squint Off The Vert"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 876 | "Squint Off The Vert"

Date: November 8, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast, "Squint Off The Vert," finds Joe Budden and his crew—Mark Lamont Hill, Parks, Big Mona, and Ericson—settling into a hilarious, insightful, and at times profound conversation. The episode captures their signature blend of hip-hop industry discussion, pop culture commentary, life anecdotes, mental health talk, and playful roasting among friends. Major topics include the Grammy nominations, Kanye West’s apology tour, the dynamics of mental illness in the Black community, and a recurring, riotous debate about chicken hoarding at the office.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Fashion, Age, & Matching Your Cup to Your Fit

• (00:28–04:22)
  • The episode opens with a lighthearted discussion on “matching your cup to your outfit,” an act Joe and Big Mona both admit to.
    • Joe: “No, I buy my cups in the colors that I wear.” (00:37)
    • Mark: “[On matching] That's some old nigga shit, right? The kids ain't doing it.” (00:45)
  • The group pokes fun at each other about aging, style, and grown-up fatigue.
    • Joe reflects on his body not letting him party two nights in a row, pushing the conversation into how the crew deals with being “washed up.”

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2. Celebrating Personal Wins & Parks’ New Modeling Gig

• (06:08–08:01)
  • Parks reveals he’s now a model for Levi’s and Mass Appeal.
    • “I'm a model now…shout out to Levi.” (06:37, Parks)
  • The crew congratulates Parks, teasing him about mastering the “Ish squint” in his photoshoot.
    • Mark: “You got the squint off the vert.” (07:59)

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3. Grammy Nominations Deep Dive

• (22:01–55:55)
  • The team goes category-by-category through the newly announced Grammy nominations, offering predictions and snubs.
    • Best Rap Album: Discussion includes the merits of Glorilla, Kendrick Lamar, Clips, and Tyler the Creator.
    • Melodic Rap Performance: Luther tipped as the likely winner; discussion on Meek Mill and Fridayy’s “Proud of Me”; Drake brushed off as being absent again.
    • R&B Album: Giveon and Leon Thomas are favorites; Parks predicts Thomas will walk away with a win or two.
    • Best Alternative Album: Tyler's “Don’t Tap the Glass” and how genre placement at the Grammys is often a strategic move.
    • Song/Album/Record of the Year: Arguments over Bad Bunny's massive year versus Sabrina Carpenter's star power and pitches for deserving underdogs.
  • Recurring concern: The group debates how Grammys reward differing genres, artists who "transcend" categories, and speculate over industry politics and recency bias.

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4. Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Parks Modeling:

  • “You got the squint off the vert.” – Mark, (07:59)

• On the Grammys:

  • “The MC could never say, ‘Hey, ChatGPT, write me an 8 bar of fire,’ hear it, and use it.” – Joe, (150:18), on AI in rap.

• On chicken hoarding in the office:

  • “That was the—he stole the chicken thief, bro.” – Joe, (90:27)
  • Group stages a ‘homie court’ over Mark’s alleged chicken theft, with dramatic and comedic mock trials, evidence presentations, and outbursts. (85:00–98:50)

• Regarding mental health and forgiveness:

  • “I believe Kanye to be sick. I’ve never heard him openly speak like that, acknowledging and kind of owning that I'm sick and this is what my sickness is.” – Joe, (60:36)
  • Extended, nuanced group discussion about Kanye West’s public apology, the timing with his album/Yeezy drop, mental illness accountability, and whether redemption is genuine or strategic. (55:00–74:00)
  • Big Mona and Ericson add powerful anecdotes about the invisibility of mental illness, especially in Black communities.

• Mental health and sports:

  • “The fucked up people are gonna do fucked up shit now. Sound like I'm caping for them and I don't want to do. That's not my a[ngle].” – Joe, (109:04), in the context of Antonio Brown and broader mental health failures.
  • Tearful tribute and reminder: “To anyone struggling, please hold on to the light. Please know there’s always help and hope.” – reading from Solomon Thomas re: Marshawn Neal, NFL player (114:47)

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5. Hip-Hop Culture, Lists, & ‘Best Of’ Debates

• (120:18–133:44)
  • The group debates the “best rap song of all time”: classic picks include “The Message,” “T.R.O.Y.,” “Juicy,” and “Nuthin’ But a G Thang.”
  • Dissects Pitchfork’s new “100 Best Rap Albums” list, roaring with laughter and outrage at various placements.
    • Consensus: The lists are flawed but a fun source for debate.

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6. Kanye West’s Apology Run

• (55:27–74:00)
  • The group scrutinizes Kanye’s recent apology to the Jewish community, shared in a filmed meeting with a rabbi ahead of his album drop/relaunching Yeezy sales.
    • Mark expresses skepticism over the timing and sincerity.
    • Joe and Parks discuss the intersection of mental illness and public responsibility.
    • Ericson: “If you say racist shit in public, the apology has to be just as loud as the offense.” (62:53)

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7. Office Hilarity: The Chicken Hoarding “Trial”

• (85:00–98:50)
  • Mark is accused (with mock legal zeal) of taking an excessive amount of chicken home for himself rather than just “a plate for his wife.”
  • Evidence is debated, exhibits presented, and Joe and Parks lead the prosecution, while Mark and Ericson mount a spirited defense.
  • This roast fest exemplifies the show’s friendship, pettiness, and ability to turn anything into compelling content.

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8. Antonio Brown, Mental Health & Policing

• (100:39–110:18)
  • Reacting to AB’s arrest in Florida, the crew discusses the pattern of erratic behavior that aligns with CTE/mental health struggles and society’s lack of empathy (especially for Black men).

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9. AI and the Death of the Real MC

• (149:45–152:44)
  • Young Jock tests out AI rap lyrics, proving to the group that technology can’t replace the craft of real lyricism.

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10. New York Politics & Victory Speeches

• (153:01–167:14)
  • Breakdown of New York’s new mayor Zohran Mamdani’s historic win, with praise for his victory speech and a roasting of Van Jones for his tepid response.
  • Mark: “That was the most impressive Democratic speech I’ve heard since Barack Obama.” (157:36)

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11. Pop Culture (Sydney Sweeney Ad, Kayla Nicole Tweets, Cancel List)

• (184:16–195:10)
  • Sydney Sweeney and Kayla Nicole both face recent controversies and “canceling”—the former for an awkward interview dodging race questions, the latter for old tweets and alleged pettiness.
  • The group questions how much it matters and who really gets canceled in the long run.

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12. Nostalgic Reflections: Freaknik, Spring Break, and the Loss of Youth Culture

• (197:12–202:28)
  • The crew reminisces on wild, pre-social media party eras (Freaknik, Greek Fest, MTV Spring Break) and agree that FOMO online is no substitute for actually being there.

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13. Rounding Out: Show Wrap-Up, Plans, and Final Roasts

• (218:39–221:17)
  • Crew shares lighthearted weekend plans and teases future Patreon content (including a forthcoming debate over the new Michael Jackson biopic).
  • Sign-off features a blend of classic R&B, inside jokes, and signature gratitude to the fans.

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Important Segments and Timestamps

• 00:28: Matching cups to outfits—sign of aging and fashion
• 06:08: Parks’ Levi’s modeling gig
• 22:01–55:55: Grammy nominations deep dive
• 55:27–74:00: Kanye’s apology tour and mental health/forgiveness
• 85:00–98:50: Chicken hoarding “homie court”
• 149:45–152:44: Young Jock and AI’s impact on hip-hop
• 153:01–167:14: NYC election reactions and Van Jones’ comments
• 184:16–195:10: Pop culture cancel list (Sydney Sweeney, Kayla Nicole)

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Notable Quotes (with timestamps)

• On Matching Cups to Outfits: “No, I buy my cups in the colors that I wear.” – Joe Budden (00:37)
• On Age: "My body just is not letting me do it… I was supposed to go out two nights in a row. My body just is not letting me do it." – Joe Budden (02:01)
• On Grammy Strategy: “It may not be to your advantage, but for Tyler, it may be.” – Parks (37:56)
• On Mental Health: “The fucked up people are gonna do fucked up shit now… We just have to acknowledge that more.” – Joe Budden (109:04)
• On MC vs. AI: “The MC could never say, ‘Hey, ChatGPT, write me an 8 bar of fire,’ hear it, and use it.” – Joe Budden (150:18)
• On the Power of In-Person Experiences: “Seeing it and being it ain’t the same.” – Joe Budden (199:51)
• On Weekend Plans: “I’m inside. Still getting better, right?” – Mark Lamont Hill (217:41)

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Tone & Style

The episode blends high-energy, sarcastic, and irreverent humor with unexpectedly thoughtful, often personal, commentary on social issues. It’s a free-wheeling group chat characterized by running jokes, Philly-vs-NYC banter, and cultural takes rooted in hip-hop.

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Summary

"Squint Off The Vert" captures the Joe Budden Podcast in full stride: a mix of pop culture news, music industry analysis, and vividly entertaining group dynamics. The crew dives deep into the 2025 Grammy nominations, debates new music and rap classics, roasts each other mercilessly about everything from spotting gray hair to hoarding chicken, and explores nuanced territory around mental illness and public redemption (with reference to both Kanye West and Antonio Brown). Capping everything off are discussions about politics, “cancel culture,” throwback party culture, and the bittersweet realities of aging in hip-hop. For listeners—new or old—the show remains proof that insightful conversation doesn’t have to take itself, or life, too seriously.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. I think that's fly.

[Big Mona]

Me too.

[Parks]

Let's give the people.

[Joe Button]

I do it sometimes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

You match your cup to your fit for sure.

[Joe Button]

No, I buy my cups in the colors that I wear.

[Parks]

Okay, that's fine.

[Joe Button]

So when I have them, I grab that cup I'm matching a little bit. But I'm 45. That's some old nigga shit, right? Yeah, the kids ain't doing it. The kids ain't got cups.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The kids don't match.

[Parks]

No, the kids got cups.

[Big Mona]

Wait, wait.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, they got cups for sure.

[Parks]

That's the thing.

[Big Mona]

I've seen Florida rappers that they'll get dressed, their outfit match they car, and they'll have. They'll go get a sunkissed orange soda to match the orange fit and the orange car. People do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is true.

[Big Mona]

And they young.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you know, the funny thing is, we also say, all right, see, now you're not helping us. Cause when they do that, we call them something.

[Joe Button]

What do y' all call them?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Country bunking? See, he fell for it. I'm not gonna do that.

[Big Mona]

That shit fly. It's not what we do.

[Joe Button]

We gotta stop that shit.

[Big Mona]

That fly to me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we gotta stop that.

[Big Mona]

Just the effort you putting in it is all that to me.

[Ericson]

Do you put that effort in, like, when door. Like, he was like, I'm wearing, like.

[Joe Button]

Brown balances a little bit, too, bro.

[Big Mona]

This is head to toe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That cup was on the table.

[Joe Button]

That cup was there, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a cup I use every day.

[Joe Button]

Okay, that's not the hoam.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got a bunch of cups.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. That's not the ha.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm going go grab the one that I know I got. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Y' all just want to hear yourself talk. Y' all got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you a grab the ha.

[Joe Button]

It's black.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. It was. It's the same color. Damn near.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I'm embracing this age.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you got to all the weird that's happening. I was supposed to go out two nights in a row. My body just is not letting me do it. Yeah, my body is not letting me do it. 7:30. I was on the phone, my dad. Yesterday at 3:30. I'm like, I'm in the bed. I'm in the bed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The body sit you down. That's what happened yesterday. And took a nap. I was supposed to drive away. I was on 78 like a half an hour away from my crib. I turned right around, went home and went to sleep.

[Big Mona]

Dead asses.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dead. And my girl wasn't there. And her baby was there. I could get.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's a good sleep. Thank God. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for your girl not being in the crib.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a good sleep.

[Joe Button]

This is beautiful. Watch how this guest house look in the back of this house. Why? That pool house is immaculate. Yeah, you're goddamn right it is. What Big Mona in the house. What up Mona?

[Big Mona]

Hello, fellas.

[Joe Button]

What's popo?

[Big Mona]

Hey everybody.

[Joe Button]

Are you okay?

[Big Mona]

I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you kill it yourself? That's that flash, huh?

[Big Mona]

The thing about it is that's that flash.

[Joe Button]

They shot a Molly jealous and I.

[Big Mona]

I'm open to it. I understand. I get it. They are going to troll me about my outfits. But it doesn't mean I'm not going to give it again and again and again.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm not gonna troll you.

[Big Mona]

I think this is cute. I like it.

[Joe Button]

But I'm not gonna troll you. I'm gonna help you.

[Big Mona]

Sneakers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The boots fly.

[Big Mona]

They're sneakers.

[Joe Button]

Sneaker boots.

[Big Mona]

Thank you. Thank you. They just sneakers. They not sneakers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My, they come up to your kneecap.

[Big Mona]

They still sneeze in my hood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a boot.

[Joe Button]

You talking about, nigga. You look like we about to go get with Liam Neeson and go to London where they at. It look like somebody took our kids and we about to show them. Nah, you look like Bruce Willis. We gotta go. You like that action figure like in the Bob?

[Big Mona]

Do y' all like the Bob?

[Joe Button]

I like the Bob. I like the Bob. I saw the Bob.

[Ericson]

I saw the Bob on the Internet.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, break beats keep dropping when I'm dropping. Fuck it. Niggas think they slick. I see y' all too. I see it all. Goddamn. I told y' all to bed by 3:30.

[Big Mona]

This nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, hold up, Mona. You matched the bag with the. Ah, I see what you.

[Big Mona]

Nah, I do. No, no, that's not mine. That's not mine.

[Joe Button]

Rz.

[Big Mona]

That woulda though. I would have my jacket that I wore matching. I wore a Cornheart jacket.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody at home, why you take it off?

[Big Mona]

I wasn't wearing it like that's the jacket.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, you know, that's a jacket too, for the element.

[Big Mona]

I am cold up here all the time, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It'd be cold.

[Big Mona]

If it gets chilly, I will put it on. I don't know ever if I'm. If it's cold for real. If it's just I'm cold.

[Joe Button]

No, it'd be cold.

[Parks]

It'll be cold.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It'd be cold.

[Big Mona]

Why? Why he ain't on? Mr. Joe, we have a problem. Mr. Joe's. A lot of windows, Mr. Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Breeze turn the heat up a little bit.

[Big Mona]

Got their hoodies all tight. Mr. Joe.

[Joe Button]

You know what's funny about that? When I'm going into, like, establishments and restaurants and shit, they don't have the air on and I be hot in there and I. I'm asking them, hey, can you cut some air on? It's not time. You run hot.

[Parks]

You run hot.

[Joe Button]

Well, my body's always hot.

[Parks]

That's what I'm saying. You run hot.

[Joe Button]

Fuck. What Ish was talking about last part?

[Big Mona]

So you sleep with, like, the window crack.

[Joe Button]

He runs hot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Runs hot.

[Parks]

Some people run hot, some people run cold.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, my body is always warm.

[Big Mona]

You leave, you sleep with the window open or hot or the fan on. You one of them?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, year round?

[Joe Button]

No, we gonna.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People turn some heat on.

[Joe Button]

We turn some heat on for a little bit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People do that shit year round.

[Joe Button]

If you get cold, we change temperature. The lights be. It'd be, you know, anyway. Anywho, y' all looking good. Y' all looking good, huh? We'll get into that.

[Parks]

It's Friday. It's Friday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like you said, we'll get into it.

[Joe Button]

We'll get into that, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't try. Don't try that, though.

[Joe Button]

Try that. Levi, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't try that.

[Ericson]

He was trying act like. Yeah, like he. He came like nothing happened.

[Parks]

Nothing happened. It's just regular.

[Joe Button]

You look a little like Bob Dylan today. Yeah, you look like.

[Parks]

I'll take that.

[Joe Button]

The FS today to me, a beautiful white man. They put the right white light and they got face. My boy was glowing.

[Ericson]

You see the way Star at the. He was serving face, though.

[Parks]

Hey, man.

[Joe Button]

Yo. It was now, you slave for those that don't know Parks.

[Ericson]

Tell him.

[Joe Button]

Well, come on. Tell them Parks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, let's just do it.

[Ericson]

I'm a model now.

[Parks]

I'm a model, man. Shout out to Levi. Shout to master pill n. Of course.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

65 with the curls.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean, Levi.

[Parks]

They asked me to hang on me 65 parks. I am.

[Big Mona]

Damn.

[Parks]

They asked me to serve some face, so I served some face.

[Ericson]

You did. It was impressive.

[Joe Button]

That little shit jumped a little bit. That little shit.

[Ericson]

Height.

[Joe Button]

Height. Do it, boy. That little shit dropped a little bit.

[Big Mona]

I didn't realize the man was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, you got the squinty.

[Joe Button]

It was sunny out. You got the ish squint.

[Ericson]

Yeah, you got the ish squint.

[Parks]

Oh, sunny out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I learned it from you, Squint. Yeah, right.

[Parks]

I learned it from you, man.

[Joe Button]

Ooh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, congratulations.

[Parks]

I said, what would ish do, man?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right. Squit.

[Joe Button]

I think that's super dope.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fine.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fire.

[Joe Button]

Sh. Shout out to them for partnerships. That make sense.

[Parks]

Yeah, Word Makes all perfect sense there, man.

[Ericson]

Per.

[Joe Button]

Hilarious. N. He was serving face.

[Parks]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Button]

He was serving. You look good.

[Parks]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Joe Button]

It was a squint. It was.

[Parks]

It was sunny out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was right. Yo, you said just like this.

[Parks]

It was reflected off some.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This son was behind you.

[Joe Button]

You got a ways to go before you get to the ish squint. You're right. It was dead right. Yeah. My boy do that off the muscle memory.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No lights.

[Joe Button]

He do that off the vert. He do it at nighttime.

[Ericson]

He said he squint off the vert.

[Joe Button]

Nah, he squint off the vert. That's funny. Hey. Yeah. I mean, it's fall vibes in New York. It's fall vibes for me. I was riding around listening to Jagged Edge all night last night, naturally. Hey, shout out to wherever you might be listening from out there. Always for the ladies. Here you go. Shout out to all the couples out there. Everybody going through a divorce right now. My heart goes out to you. What is divorcing now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Happy they divorcing, though.

[Ericson]

Don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't sing your heart out to him.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's hilarious. Salute to me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I mean, that's how I'm feeling tonight. Shout out to the patronis out there. All appearance out there. Big New Jersey, Big New York. What's going on, Virginia? What's going on, Carolinas? What up, Boston?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What up?

[Joe Button]

Hey, yummy. Some of y' all ain't had parents that woke up and cleaned in the morning with the good music on. Some of y' all parents couldn't afford a boombox back in the day, man. Y' all was in the house with walkmanship, listening. Here you go.

[Big Mona]

Let me know. Have you started to lose your love for me?

[Joe Button]

And.

[Big Mona]

If soul.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To be.

[Joe Button]

Damn, I hate to do that. Damn, I hate to do that. We got a great show lined up for you today, I promise. Hey, Yummy. Hey. Yo, y' all lucky they don't do the R B set in the club no more. Boy, they do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Boy, he be going already.

[Joe Button]

Boy, they lucky they don't do it while I'm still there. Then there you go. Well, if they take all other out the clubs, we could meet people and dance again. If y' all stop being weirdos and just meeting on the Internet. Yep, you can meet like we used to meet. Take this. Take all the tables out the club. Make a dance floor again. Bring the cute. The cute bitches back. You know what I mean? Take the hookahs out the club. Come on, come on, vibe with me. Hey, yeah. I mean, to the niggas that got it done. When you needed to get a pen and paper real quick, you might have had to leave her there for a couple seconds while you found a pen. Yes, sir. I'm still doing it for y'.

[Big Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

Here you go. Oh, man. Come on, man. I'm telling y', all, when I get my first little lounge, when I get my first little speak easy or something, y' all already. I ain't got to say nothing, man. I know what you going to do. Y' all going to show up a little fly name. Nice entrance and ambiance, huh? Open for lunch. Open for lunch. No brunch, huh? Breakfast all day.

[Parks]

There you go.

[Joe Button]

Stop playing with them. Breakfast all day, huh? Byob. Bring your own broads.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I mean, now the balls will be there.

[Joe Button]

Y' all know what my gonna look like when I open up my little speakeasy. Man, you all invited. You all in. No, you're not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a lot.

[Joe Button]

That's a lie. All right, man, what episode is this?

[Parks]

876.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 876 of the. Oh, did I play Mars Drop? No, hold up. Yeah, sorry about that, Mark and Mona. Mona. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. What?

[Ericson]

Episode 876.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 876 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Fish. Prize Fish gang. You. I'm your wonderful, amazing, terrific, sensational hot body host, Joe Button, here with some really amazing people to my right. Come on, you know the vibes. Don't call her white girl. Big Mona in the building, huh? Looking like a Tekken character. No, I like it. I like it next to her. Our good brother, Mr. Dark. Mr. Dr. Dark. Lamont Hill is in the building. Mr. Right. That's fucked up. Next to him. Come on. Does it. Come on. Does he need an intro anymore?

[Parks]

Not really.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't. His presence is an intro.

[Joe Button]

Do he need to call?

[Ericson]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

That's what I think. Just his mere existence just being there is an intro. Some don't need to call ahead to the club, let them know you coming. Yeah, some just pull up, park where they wanna. Walk through the kitchen, pick a table. It don't matter if somebody's sitting.

[Big Mona]

Get up.

[Joe Button]

I want that. Take them on you and your.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Get the coat and bring that. Bring that table and put it with this one because I got some people coming.

[Parks]

Bring my oranges.

[Ericson]

Oh, yeah, get them orange pills.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I gotta swallow some orange pills. I gotta swallow orange peels while I'm out here. Make some noise. Biggest in the building. Yes, sir. Next to him. Huh? Come on, man. Come on, man. Huh? I grew up dreaming about living where Big Freeze live.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, yo, stop.

[Joe Button]

I grew up dreaming if I could make it. Hey, yo, God. Sometimes God gives you God. If only I can make enough to live with a Big Freeze. Got the biggest. One of the biggest properties.

[Parks]

Penthouse.

[Joe Button]

Stop playing with him, huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Four floors.

[Joe Button]

Mister. Take it further. Huh? Mister. My car. Your car. Who need the note paid? Mr. Hootie. Who need the note paid?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what you want?

[Joe Button]

You need a note paid. Mona, you need.

[Ericson]

Who need a.

[Joe Button]

Mister? Y' all think I'm just paying my note? Stop playing with him. Big Freeze in the building. Freeze. You down with me, man?

[Parks]

Shut up.

[Joe Button]

You are down with me. You down. We down. Yo, I'm just gonna get a guest house. We the same. That little game room you got where you creep off to? That's what I'm at. One of those with a sauna, in a pool or some. Yeah, next to him.

[Ericson]

You see them on the billboards?

[Joe Button]

You seen. You've seen them on most billboards, huh? Yeah. I don't even know what to say about this guy, man. He ain't even wearing jeans today. On you locos out there, I don't even think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've never seen you without jeans.

[Ericson]

That's the new design. That's the Levi Collection.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The only jeans and coochie colors.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't seen you in no cargo.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you got the cargos with the scrunch at the bottom. That's when you know that white boys is about to be on in a bag. Bag. Burgundy stripe on the Polo. They know who I. They know who I am. I mix this. If you don't check the credits.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

If you don't know who I am. Let's bring back reading credits. Yeah. Big parks in the building. Yes, sir. All right, pose here. Corey's here. Phil is here. Shout out to y', all, Phil. Sleep like you up, Phil. Knock that Phelps. Oh, I'm saying Phelps.

[Big Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Ericson]

He was just answering, too. Like, close enough.

[Joe Button]

Got two or three of the letters right? Exactly. Ericson is in the back. Erickson is in the back. Savon and Tana here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each other and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? How's everybody feeling? Y' all look and smell great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Better. Glad to be here. Man, I missed. Yeah, I was sick.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was up.

[Parks]

Dave. Sorry to hear that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Every person that never gets sick. I got sick. Jinx myself.

[Joe Button]

And it's tough, cuz, like, you still sound the same, like. Like, we never quite know when the symptom, when the symptoms end. Cuz you still sound like Oscar the.

[Parks]

Oh, man, I got a scratchy thro.

[Joe Button]

Everything's normal. Stupid. Oh, I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you feeling better, friends.

[Parks]

We missed you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Something wrong with him, yo.

[Joe Button]

I missed. You know, I got to get him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Z. I know, I know.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you got a nice week off. No, I'm happy to see him.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Mark, what's up? You good?

[Ericson]

I'm great, man. It's been a good, busy week.

[Parks]

I bet it has a lot of. Lot of political analysis, all that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Mark got money this week.

[Ericson]

I was on for hours.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was live streaming.

[Joe Button]

Because your money spikes during. During this, right?

[Ericson]

Yeah, when. When politics happens or people die.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Ericson]

Unfortunately. So I like when elections happen, because I do a lot when tragedies. I mean, I'm in the tragedy business.

[Parks]

So I talk about the tragedy news.

[Ericson]

I mean, not me. Personal.

[Parks]

This week, I think you should rebrand from the tragedy business.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tragedy business.

[Joe Button]

What the.

[Ericson]

It Be like this, but this week was a good week. Everybody's happy this week.

[Parks]

Well, some people are, but no tragedy. That's true.

[Ericson]

That's true. Well, something. We'll talk about them later, though. Some dead people, but. But good week for me. How about y'?

[Joe Button]

All?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm straight.

[Parks]

Great week, man. Great.

[Joe Button]

Nothing write home about. I'm chilling. Had a good week. Healthy.

[Ericson]

You stayed in?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Stayed in for sure. Yeah. I'm washed. It's over.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I ain't got no motion, man. When I get motion, I'll let y' all know when I get. Actually, no, I won't.

[Parks]

It's better than not, honestly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's really why some of us are so whack out here. We hiding emotion.

[Parks]

Facts, like.

[Joe Button]

Cause I gotta make that clear because we do be sounding whack sometimes. But if you see us outside, it look like we got a little bit emotional. Yeah.

[Ericson]

Do y' all feel the energy different? Like, do you feel the energy difference when you have, like, a moment, like a viral moment? Like, I've been getting texts and emails and tweets about you, too. And y' all body off from last episode?

[Parks]

They were reviewing their bodies in your DMs and texts.

[Ericson]

Kinda, yeah. People telling me who they think won. Like, I don't need this. But do you. Do you feel the difference? Like, when you had a topic of conversation, like, after episode.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, I ain't believe my bag, so it's not my thing. I don't really like that shit.

[Ericson]

So people don't be like, texting you, sending you shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, of course they do.

[Joe Button]

Him.

[Ericson]

Got you. Good talk. He said he. I get it.

[Big Mona]

Get the on.

[Joe Button]

Hey, one day you going to learn. You learn.

[Ericson]

Stop asking questions. No, no, no. I thought it was interesting.

[Joe Button]

That's all in the body. I got shout you out. You were hilarious. I was in the middle of it, so I missed all of you in parks. No, it was both of y'. All.

[Ericson]

But I'm sitting at the parks. There's a lot of sly jokes that happen.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

On the watch back. I see it.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like when Ish took his shit off and you said, wait, what? Come through, come through, come through. Yo, we look like such idiots. But, hey, it was fun.

[Ericson]

It was fun, man. I love watching it, man.

[Joe Button]

I had a good time. Love to do it again sometime. That was great. That was great. But it ain't gonna be too much more. My body ain't hot, though.

[Ericson]

Right?

[Joe Button]

Back to it.

[Big Mona]

Right?

[Ericson]

So I'm clear, moving forward, was that a sensitive spot for you?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Ericson]

Was that a sensitive area for you?

[Joe Button]

For me? Mm. No. No. Okay. I don't want to start with a fight. I don't want to start with a fight, and I'm not gonna let you trick me into it, I think. When do y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Ericson]

Y' all did it? I don't wanna start that. I was just curious to know more about the viral. The virus.

[Parks]

We could start with. We have Grammy Nominations. If we want to start there, we got some in.

[Joe Button]

We got.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think they're. I think they're all in for the most part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Most of them.

[Joe Button]

Oh, then that's definitely all the ones.

[Parks]

I think that we are going to care about.

[Joe Button]

Oh, let's do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where y' all want to start? Rap, R B. The big awards.

[Parks]

The general.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, save the big ones.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. Best Rap album. Let God sort them out. Clips. Glorious Glorilla. God does like Ugly Jit, gnx. Kendrick Lamar. Chromocopia Tyler, the Creator.

[Joe Button]

Okay, that's a tough category.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, Chance.

[Parks]

Chance should have been in there.

[Ericson]

That's why I'm frustrated right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Chance should have been in there.

[Parks]

Chance should have been there.

[Joe Button]

I don't know that he won't be next year and maybe he.

[Parks]

I. I haven't seen like the individuals songs and stuff like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Ericson]

Song of the years on this side of the Cut off.

[Parks]

No, not so of the year, but like rap song of the year. Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rap song of the year. Anxiety Dochi Birds don't sing Clips.

[Parks]

That's mine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sticky Tyler, the creator.

[Parks]

Yeah, I hated that was the one in that category. But carry on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tgif, Glorilla. TV Off. Kendrick Lamar.

[Ericson]

I gotta say, in both of these categories, Glorilla is the thing I didn't consider when I was standing, like, who I thought would be the finalist. And it makes sense. I just. I had so many other people in my head.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Including Chance. That I forgot about her. I forgot to glow. Real effect. Shout out to her.

[Joe Button]

She had a phenomenal, like, well deserved.

[Ericson]

Yeah, super well deserved.

[Joe Button]

It's all well deserved. Her album was hard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was.

[Joe Button]

The singles were hard. Like she. You can't say nothing about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, shit. Ring off outside. All right, I got some more.

[Parks]

I want Burnstone sing for that one though, personally.

[Ericson]

Yeah, me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By far.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for me.

[Ericson]

And real quick, for that album, before you go to the album thing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, can we go back to that?

[Ericson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rap album.

[Ericson]

Rap album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ericson]

Yeah, it was. Read him again one more time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let God sort him out.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Glorious Glorilla. God does like Ugly J, GNX and Chromo Copia.

[Parks]

Tyler, first of all, shout out to all the people that were not all great choices.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Great choices.

[Joe Button]

Which is not Tyler's last album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, that's the one.

[Parks]

No, that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That probably didn't fall in the window.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. But yeah, this is just a real.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All of these are really, really, really, really good albums.

[Joe Button]

I don't like Clips and Kendrick being together. And all these.

[Ericson]

That's where I was. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

It's bothering me me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why?

[Parks]

What you mean?

[Joe Button]

I get why it's happening, but it's bothering.

[Ericson]

They feel like two different years. I mean they're in the same window but they feel like two different moments. Like Kendrick deserved it to me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

During his time. And now I want. Based on who's there. I want the clips to get it based on who's in the cut off.

[Parks]

It's September to September basically.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And GNX was November.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I get what y' all saying. GNX been at the top of the charts all year.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it's still his year.

[Parks]

Yeah, it is.

[Ericson]

But I mean momentum wise, like once once clip stepped in, I felt like it was the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a shift.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And not for nothing, a lot of the Kendrick won a lot last year because of not like us and all this stuff. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So I mean and let me be clear on what I'm saying. I think that the Grammy folk should figure out what Kendrick is getting and they should figure out what the clips get.

[Parks]

It's gonna be tough in the vote. I'm voted for the nominees.

[Joe Button]

Well, I think both of them should leave with awards. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

And if you just put them against each other in every category where they are, I'm sure. Well. Well, just from the two you started. I see who the names are.

[Parks]

I'll tell you. This is one.

[Joe Button]

See where we go.

[Parks]

This is one where this could happen. Best rap performance Outside Cardi B Chains and whips Clips and Kendrick Anxiety Dochi TV off Kendrick Darling eye Tyler the creator and Tizo. I'm not mad at TV off putting that or chips and chainsaw performance.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Performance. The rap rapping. That in my opinion, that's. I don't know if that's definitively. Yeah. Like who rapped the best.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

To me chains and whips is that's it.

[Parks]

Or TV off. I think was also phenomenal.

[Ericson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Parks]

So I'm not mad at him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who you thinking I I want chains and whips.

[Joe Button]

I don't see how you don't give it to tv. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just gonna be tough to explain.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Except what you said is really both y' all gotta win this awards. Some of the symptoms.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ericson]

Saying there's an opportunity for them both to win. You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

That's why chains and whips would make a lot of sense.

[Ericson]

That's why I'm thinking it might Win also.

[Parks]

I mean. And best melodic rap performance. We do have Luther as well as Proud of Me, which is Friday. And Meek, which was phenomenal. Wholeheartedly is Jade and Ty and Black.

[Joe Button]

Noise you just made.

[Big Mona]

That's a good joy though. That's a really, really good song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a Philly noise.

[Joe Button]

You heard it.

[Big Mona]

It's not even Philly. That's a great song.

[Parks]

I could see Luther winning that one, I guess is the.

[Ericson]

Luther should win it. But Meek left earth on that. On that Proud of Me verse. I. I would. I still play that.

[Parks]

He did.

[Joe Button]

I don't think the Grammys. Never mind. Go ahead.

[Ericson]

No, go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Do the Grammys want to see me come? I'm asking you. I'm seriously. I'm totally not joking. Do the Grammys want to see me come up there? I don't know the answer to that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it speaks to the diversity of the selection.

[Parks]

But Luther absolutely dominated. So I that that one.

[Ericson]

I don't see Luther losing that category. But I would. I would choose Proud of Me but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think it's going and they got Somebody Loves Me nominated in there. That wasn't a. That wasn't a slouch record. True for melodic rap performance.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Button]

Drake.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

They not giving Drake no.

[Ericson]

Drake ain't getting no awards.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it.

[Joe Button]

They not give a signal. Drake ain't coming. Drake gonna be at Australia somewhere. I don't think he's coming.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not even being a country.

[Joe Button]

They've.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They've done that where it's yo, this person's not here. We except on.

[Parks]

Yeah it's. It's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't even know if this being televised.

[Parks]

Oh true. That's true. That work.

[Joe Button]

Oh can we veto that? It's time yo. It's time for no more. I accept this award on behalf Amazon mean my shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Somebody gotta say something. When they announce you as the whistle person ain't there. They gotta say something.

[Joe Button]

No FaceTime me some of them used.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To record a video in back in the day.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to guess the relationship between the person walking up there and then they might be trying to no move show a pictures of me if I want it. Get this. So he can stay seated.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the. That announces the award. Yeah, it's the presenter.

[Joe Button]

No, that's not always true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Most of the time sometimes somebody will be yo, we are accepting this award on behalf of.

[Joe Button]

Okay, that's awesome. And sometimes we all sitting there while they pan to the audience and some we have no idea who's getting up walk up this and say or you come from the back so you wouldn't.

[Ericson]

Trust Corey to accept the word on your behalf.

[Joe Button]

Should Corey accept an award? Should they give me an award Give.

[Ericson]

Honor to the universe.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

First and foremost.

[Ericson]

First and foremost I want to thank who would you have accepted award on your behalf?

[Joe Button]

I knew that that was going to be your question. I'm getting used to you. I knew your question was coming in the room or just in the world.

[Ericson]

And either you you you're the chooser oh my dad.

[Joe Button]

I choose my dad. Let him go up there and curse somebody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm about to say it's gonna be a moment too.

[Joe Button]

You're gonna get a Joe Button moment either way and it's still technically Joe Button so yeah you're gonna get a Joe Button moment. Send my dad up there and in.

[Ericson]

This room it'd be parks.

[Joe Button]

If I have to pick somebody in the room well my real answer will be parks but that's not fun so I'm gonna can't have Mona go up.

[Ericson]

There that music be playing every time.

[Joe Button]

Mona every time she do good up here. Have a week full of shit. I can't see my girl Mona up there. Mark. Mark. I can't. You can't. You know you can't be trouble.

[Ericson]

I be like free Palestine. Go to my patreon Mark my hill official.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah shout out to Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh Dan. Oh yo my bad good looking Joe.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah.

[Ericson]

Oh yeah Joe right.

[Joe Button]

Holy. Never mind. Never mind. He go up there give his only fans oh my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is hilarious.

[Joe Button]

He want us to have fun. You want us to have fun.

[Ericson]

I got one job to do and.

[Joe Button]

That'S to start we didn't did everybody else come on? No, I'm not sitting hell no.

[Ericson]

It should do it right though. It will be brief.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It'll be very brief.

[Joe Button]

It'd be very brief.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

It's pretty. Let's go up there.

[Parks]

Clipson Kendrick is facing off all over the they're a problem of the year against each other.

[Joe Button]

Hold on, let me defend my man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what they should be doing.

[Joe Button]

Send something nice up there with him.

[Ericson]

Something oh that's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With something nice presenting.

[Joe Button]

That's a different ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh that's oh now they're gonna be playing the music.

[Joe Button]

If you send something nice up there with him they gonna have to play the music to get him off that stage. Right. That might do be the first presenter to do an outfit change in the middle of the if something nice is.

[Ericson]

Up there with him.

[Joe Button]

Honestly, what you give him is for real. What you think? If something nice is there with you, who would you want your co presenter to be?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Joe Button]

Jlo.

[Ericson]

Jlo's the presenter accepting when?

[Joe Button]

Wake up. What you need? What you need? You need some uppers?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What we gotta do to get you talking about it?

[Joe Button]

Wake your ass up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me, I'm fine.

[Joe Button]

That's why I hate when niggas match too much.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jlo, the presenter. Jlo's the presenter you accepted on behalf.

[Ericson]

Of and accepting on Joe's behalf. Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, what'd you say? I'm sorry. I don't want JLo. You gotta be JLo. Feet ain't rocking.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Big Mona]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Where you from?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It gotta be a stranger.

[Joe Button]

You be like, oh, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where you from?

[Joe Button]

Yo, what's your name?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You be having a side conversation.

[Joe Button]

You, where you from?

[Big Mona]

Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At the mic.

[Joe Button]

Damn. K Ver.

[Ericson]

Oh, yeah, Just eat these.

[Joe Button]

Open.

[Ericson]

You like. Oh, he's open for a reason.

[Joe Button]

Okay. All right, we killed that. We killed that. Amazing topic. What else? What else we got? Who else?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Category.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. Best R and B album, album, Beloved. Gibbon. Hold on.

[Big Mona]

He Rizz.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you good?

[Joe Button]

I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

My bad. Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. Best R B album, beloved, Giveon. Why not more? Coco Jones, the Crown Legacy, Escape Room. Teyana Taylor and Mutt, Leon Thomas.

[Big Mona]

Escape room.

[Parks]

Leon.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Leon.

[Ericson]

Of course, Leon. I think Leon gonna get it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's nominated a couple of me here.

[Parks]

Too, so I think he's up for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What was the category? Best R B album.

[Joe Button]

So when my barber comes to. To cut me like, we talk about, like, our relationships, he's up for a month.

[Parks]

Sorry.

[Ericson]

His barber for months.

[Joe Button]

He's saying, yo, that Giveon concert is coming up. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Joe Button]

Like he was waiting for it, sitting on it for weeks. And every time I saw him, he would say, that, give you on. Concert's coming up. So now, week of Monday, Giveon is last night, Monday. He say, you know, I'm gonna be at that Giveon on Thursday at the Garden. I said, oh, in the who? In the Hulu Theater. He said, I ain't see nothing about Hulu Theater. It just said Garden.

[Parks]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I said, well, I don't get my music news from you.

[Parks]

You got snooty on him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I gotta lead his art. Damn. You wait right there. Called up some big wig. Hey, is Givion at the Garden tonight? Says yeah. Oh, shit. Sold out. Oh, shit. This is second. So oh, shit. He's selling out. The run. You can't get a ticket. I said, holy shit. I slept on Giveon.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Now, I think Giveon's album was amazing this year. It was amazing. So I think Leon Thomas should get his again. This is on the Grammy board. But Giveon's album was also great. I slept. He's selling out. And now I got to catch one of the shows. I do. Yeah. Coco Jones the year, but not album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm still Leon Thomas on that one.

[Parks]

Yeah, me too.

[Ericson]

Me too.

[Joe Button]

All right, before you continue, how many awards do y' all want Leon Thomas to get? Or do you not. Do you think he'll get this year? Because it sound like y' all got him on, like, a little run.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think he's gonna catch one or two, but he's in some tough categories. He is up for album of the year, though.

[Ericson]

That ain't happening.

[Parks]

That's the big one. Yeah. That's gonna be a tough one to get. So that's why I would like to see him get an R B album. He's also up for new artist, I believe. So that would be. That would be a good spot for him. Although Olivia Dean's in there, too. Her album is phenomenal, by the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I heard it's fire.

[Parks]

It's super Fire. It's like. It's no luggerish.

[Ericson]

That's the perfect comparison.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Except.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he's also up. That's R B performance.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's still. It's the NPR version of Mutt.

[Parks]

Oh, shit. Okay. So the tiny disc.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Wow. Just tiny disc. That's big.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's also UConn, Justin Bieber. It depends. Chris Brown, Bryson Tiller. Folded. Kehlani.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And Heart of a Woman. Summer Walker.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Folder. Gotta win that one, though.

[Joe Button]

Folded.

[Ericson]

Folded. Shit. When everything is up for.

[Parks]

It's up for a couple.

[Ericson]

Is that the R and B song of the year in general?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's R B song. Folded Heart of a Woman. It depends. Overqualified. And yes, it is. Leon Thomas.

[Parks]

Oh, I like. I like folded for that. I like folded. Wherever folded's at.

[Joe Button]

I think that it depends. We'll have something to say and something going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Something.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And something going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It depends.

[Ericson]

That's true with all the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's been going on with folded the last month.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

But the voters may feel that recency bias, too.

[Joe Button]

Too.

[Parks]

Word.

[Ericson]

You're not wrong, though. Like, all of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. That. It depends. Talks, bro.

[Joe Button]

It's been. It depends. It's been folded. It's been a ride of sciences. Blue, Burning Blue and Summer's Heart of a. Heart of a Woman probably said it, but that record, they said is spinned it, right? Not Heart of a Woman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, this one's a Heart of a woman.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay. Heart of a Woman probably set the year off with that shit. But I'm with Kalani getting everything. I've been glazing for the past half many months, so I don't need to continue.

[Parks]

Yeah, she dropped a new one today. That's fire too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She did.

[Parks]

We'll get to that later.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we. I'm get on her ass later. You had this folded by the. I always want to hear the second single after you kick the out the house. I'll be wanting to hear it. And now look at you by the window. I knew it.

[Big Mona]

I knew.

[Joe Button]

Yo, yo, I'm lying.

[Parks]

Oh, no. Tyler is up. That's interesting. He is up in best alternative music album for Don't Tap the Glass. So that did fall in the window.

[Ericson]

If.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's interesting. Alternative music album.

[Ericson]

I can see why it wouldn't be a rap out. I mean.

[Parks]

No, that's a rap out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's right, fam. Get it how I get it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't mad at it. Get it how I get.

[Parks]

And I'm not mad if he. Because Chromo Copria is absolutely amazing and deserves the award, but that is a tough category to be in. So I'm not mad if they sneak him in over there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep. Yeah. I'm gonna go over here just in case. Yeah, I'm not mad.

[Ericson]

How does that happen? I mean, how does that determination happen? Like, you don't, like, submit it as a rap. It just exists. Right.

[Parks]

No, I think that they. Maybe him or his label or his representation may submit it in a different category.

[Ericson]

Got it.

[Parks]

Which normally wouldn't be to your advantage, but for the case of Tyler, it may be.

[Ericson]

Probably is.

[Joe Button]

Okay. It may be.

[Parks]

Although I would maybe argue that Cormacopia's alternative too, but whatever got you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought that. I thought that people were arguing about where they were being placed. Yeah, but because.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It wasn't the labels that was submitting you for certain.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, I didn't want to be here.

[Joe Button]

I want to be here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Ericson]

That makes sense.

[Parks]

Which normally, if you were Tyler, you don't want to be in the country things. They're gonna smoke you out the room. Like, it's no point. Like, so put me where I have a Chance put me where I have a chance.

[Joe Button]

And that's.

[Parks]

He does have a chance there. I mean, Bon Ivers album was good, but it wasn't like that. Wet Leg was dope, but it wasn't like that. I didn't listen to the Cure or Haley Williams. Oh, Haley Williams is fire. So that might be Fire from Paramore. She's fire. That album might be good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anywho, do the big three.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, give it the big, big three.

[Parks]

Wait, what do you consider the third.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Song of the year?

[Joe Button]

Record of the year.

[Parks]

Got you. Let's do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, which one you want?

[Parks]

Let's do Record of the Year.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Record of the year. Dtmf. Bad Bunny, Manchild, Sabrina Carpenter, Anxiety, Dochi, Wildflower, Billie Eilish, Abracadabra, Lady Gaga, Luther, Kendrick Lamar, Scissor the Subway Chapel, Roan and Apt Rose. And Bruno Mars.

[Ericson]

That's a tough category.

[Parks]

DTMF is my vote, but that Bruno Mars song, I'm not mad at Luther as well.

[Ericson]

I'm rooting for Luther.

[Joe Button]

That whole shit is above my pay grade.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Joe Button]

That's big business.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, dawg.

[Joe Button]

I can't guess. That's like. That's like when niggas thought they vote Madden on 106 in park. They're gonna figure that one out without my opinion.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All I'm saying is, is the Grammys is. What's that a week before the Super Bowl?

[Parks]

Yeah. February 1st, I believe is the date.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bad money, maybe.

[Ericson]

I mean, he should win album. Bad Bunny should win album of the year. Hands down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Album of the year is Bad Bunny swag. Justin Bieber, y' all ain't picked a.

[Joe Button]

White person yet to win. Shut up. White person is going.

[Ericson]

Sabrina Carpenter might smoke that last one. That's what I was thinking about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, that look. One of my people's hit me like, yo, yo, Sabrina Carpenter gonna be at Madison Square Garden. You could get some tickets. So I got the ticket at the Garden.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was like, ish. Don't even call me for this. I was like, yo, I can't get a discount. I can't get a plug. I can't do nothing.

[Parks]

I can't let you stand outside, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is a different animal. I was like, word. He was like, bro, it's like that don't even.

[Ericson]

She the Sabrina StubHub. You gonna pay triple the price.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was like, fam, don't call. I can't do nothing.

[Parks]

Same with Bad Bunny, by the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was like, y. I can't do nothing for you. But again, that's not our pay grade. For sure.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He was like, yo, so the rest of that category is clips. Lady Gaga, Mayhem, GNX is in there. Leon Thomas and Chromacopia. My vote is bad money in this one personally and all these albums.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a great cat.

[Parks]

That's a tough one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Album of the year. Usually it'd be a bunch of. I ain't never heard.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be at that next Bad Bunny show. Me and Tracy Morgan.

[Parks]

You guys would actually make a perfect.

[Joe Button]

Tracy Morgan gonna be at that. That next.

[Parks]

He can do your acceptance speech.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have a camera. Have a cameraman with y. Tracy Morgan doing it. I'm with Parks.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's your acceptance speech guy. For sure.

[Joe Button]

For sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yo, Joe.

[Parks]

Song of the year. Song of the year. Abracadabra.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What we got for album of the year?

[Joe Button]

Oh, my.

[Parks]

I told you.

[Ericson]

For me, they got Bad Bunny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bad Bunny.

[Joe Button]

I'm not picking yet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think gnx, man, that's.

[Joe Button]

I wouldn't be mad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think that'll be the makeup. Like. Yeah, we gave you everything last year. If Clips gets the awards I want them to get you make it up by. We gave you this one.

[Ericson]

But isn't it tough to be. And I know it can happen, but to not win rap album of the year, but win overall album of the year, does that happen often?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that.

[Parks]

It happens. It does happen, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I got the best album, but not the best rap album.

[Ericson]

Yeah, like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, yeah, because some of these rap albums were better than yours, but they wasn't nominated for album of the year.

[Ericson]

That's true. That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So out of the albums nominated. Yeah, this was the best. But out of the rap albums nominated, this could have been better than yours.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I've never voted for. I've only voted for. Bet I wouldn't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that don't make sense to me.

[Ericson]

But I. But it makes. What you're saying makes complete sense. And I mean, you park. Would you ever do that? Like, pick something as like.

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure. I do vote. I will vote. I haven't voted yet because obviously this just came out, but I could. I would absolutely be like, in this category. I'd be voting for Bad Bunny, but.

[Joe Button]

Well, there's been. There's been 10 times in the NBA where the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was just about. Yeah, you took the words out my mouth.

[Joe Button]

Defensive player of the year was not on the All NBA first team defense.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that don't make sense to me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is illogical.

[Ericson]

And that's illogical.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That I don't get. You get what I'm saying? It happens. I was just about to use that analogy.

[Ericson]

Albums make sense. That what you gamble y' all giving. Yeah, right. Doesn't make sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's no way you could be different.

[Ericson]

From the best defender that I should be on the first team. It's just that simple.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Ericson]

Yeah, but okay, wow.

[Parks]

Cause I could also look at it from like. Like, as a voter, I guess I could look at it like, GNX may be the best album, but Clips is the best rap. Like, in rapping.

[Ericson]

Right.

[Parks]

That was the best album of rapping.

[Ericson]

That's true, too. Cause it could transcend the genre.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but they gonna. They ain't gonna rob me of a chance to hear what fucking and Minister Malice is going to get up there and say they going win something.

[Parks]

They're going to win something.

[Joe Button]

They're going with something.

[Ericson]

It better. And it better be televised.

[Joe Button]

There's just certain speeches I want to hear. Looking forward to Malice is one of them. Both of them for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Both. I like both of them. They command the stage. They well spoken, and you know they going to go up there with that shit on.

[Parks]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Joe Button]

I want to hear the white girl get up there and say something. Even if she don't win, Bum rush the stage. Chappelle Chaparral. She after her last speech. We gotta get her some air time. Yeah, yeah. Even if she got a little mama, this don't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, they look at that like, yeah, no, we ain't putting her back.

[Ericson]

I want to get little mama.

[Joe Button]

If you're feeling down out there, pull up. Little mama running on stage with over. At least they was tight. Yo, you talk about two people.

[Ericson]

That was tight.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Big Mona]

And she was so clueless. Poor baby.

[Ericson]

I feel bad for her.

[Big Mona]

She felt so good.

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Ericson]

It was such bad judgment. I feel like she's still paying a price for it.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, it's right.

[Ericson]

I feel bad. She's still paying a price for it.

[Joe Button]

That's all.

[Ericson]

It's been, what, 15 years?

[Joe Button]

Why is it bad judgment? I just want to play the other side for two seconds.

[Ericson]

It's bad judgment because I don't. If she had known that she'd be paying a price for it right now.

[Joe Button]

You think she got blackballed?

[Ericson]

Yeah, I do.

[Big Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I will judge the shit out of them if they blackball little Mama.

[Ericson]

I'm not saying necessarily Jay and Alicia Keys did it, but she says. And she's not necessarily saying that, but what she has said is that she.

[Joe Button]

She apologized. She apologized.

[Ericson]

She apologized. I don't think Jay Z and Alicia Keys out there like no little mama. But it put a mark on her that really hasn't gone away. And a lot of people stopped booking. I mean, that's what she says.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jay and Alicia Keys don't have to do that, though. They don't gotta say a word. It could be people that fuck with her, fuck with them and be like, yo, I don't like that. And I ain't fucking with you. Cause of what you did to other people. I don't think that that was.

[Joe Button]

I don't think that was. I don't think that was all the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Out of here.

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

No, Y' all laughing at something good. Not me.

[Ericson]

I want to know. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

I want to know. I was laughing at Parks Tracy laughing at something juicy. I'm gonna watch the playback. Y' all don't care. I'mma catch it.

[Parks]

You good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got a cat, daddy.

[Joe Button]

All right. Anyway, yeah, I don't think that was all the way little mama's fault. We can move on, but I just don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, who fought?

[Ericson]

I just thought it was me, security, the.

[Joe Button]

Maybe some of them. But I put. I put most of the blame on the seat arranger, because why the hell is Lil Mama. She might have walked from the back. Respectfully.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She might have walked from the back.

[Joe Button]

Would have gave security enough time to tackle her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They might have thought it was planned and they done showed the other angle. I think I forget what. Somebody would have pulled her arm a little bit, like, yo, don't do it.

[Big Mona]

Spilling it.

[Joe Button]

I love little mom, but she shouldn't have been sitting up front like that to do it.

[Ericson]

What awards was this? This was the mtv.

[Big Mona]

Mtv.

[Joe Button]

I think so. They be probably writing that out. MTV Awards is like love of hip hop.

[Big Mona]

She never deserved a response she got. It was just so extra.

[Joe Button]

We love you, little mama. You didn't deserve none of that.

[Big Mona]

Deserve that, girl.

[Joe Button]

But every artist should get, like, you get a strike. You strike out, you make a mistake, Right? Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And there's repercussions for making mistakes. Sometimes you get behind the wheel and you.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you accidentally hit somebody, but now you're in jail.

[Joe Button]

What mistake? Nina sky made this heartless bro.

[Big Mona]

It's 15 years later, though, Ice, and she's still.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Forgiveness. My God is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can forgive. I forget they forgave her, but also.

[Ericson]

It'S not like she's putting out slaps in the world's ignoring them. I mean, maybe if she put out a fire album, maybe things would turn.

[Joe Button]

I apologize. The lil mama breakdown is my fault. Little mama, we love you. Was that. Was that all the awards?

[Parks]

Oh, I mean, I think all the major ones.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Record of the year.

[Ericson]

You did record of the Year. Song of the year.

[Parks]

Record of the year. Sorry, this page is.

[Ericson]

We did record of the year.

[Parks]

Slow. Oh, we did record the year. We did the song of the Year.

[Ericson]

We did the song of the year.

[Parks]

Which is always confusing, but all right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Song of the Year. Abracadabra Anxiety. APT Rose. Bruno Mars. Dtmf. Bad Bunny. Golden from K Pop. Demon Hunters. Okay, that is. Is.

[Ericson]

Is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you got kids cut that on. On Netflix. I get why it's nominated. Let's put it that way. Okay, I understand. I wouldn't even be surprised if it win. It's. It's that. It's that level of. What the.

[Big Mona]

They love K Pop.

[Joe Button]

Oh, they gonna get some K pop up there at the Grammy?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. It's a cartoon. Okay, but somebody. Yeah, this right here is different.

[Joe Button]

And the cartoon is gonna walk up there. Something or the creator. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The people that wrote it all. You gotta make this shit as diverse as possible to appeal to everybody. You can't just come there. Like you said, some white people gotta win some shit. My nigga, that particular show was a Netflix shit, and it made so much money that they went and put it in movie theaters last week right around Halloween. It was selling out.

[Joe Button]

Does Trump come to the Grammys? No, no. Just asking if.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, the rest of them.

[Joe Button]

I'm just thinking some might happen. I'm trying to figure it out. You know, I don't think we're just getting a smooth show. Something is gonna happen up there, and I'm gonna figure it out. I'm telling you, somebody gonna come up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There acting a fool and the economy up. No, Somebody. The speeches are gonna come. The speech is gonna come. Yeah, I don't know if people's food stamps.

[Ericson]

It's gonna be some brave white people.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, y' all took cleaning ladies. Somebody is getting up there to curse you motherfuckers. Something good is gonna happen.

[Ericson]

There's gonna be a white pop star, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's gonna be some white people. And, nigga, you could barely get a flight to the Grammys.

[Big Mona]

Facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said, yo, they cutting 4,000 flights a day, my nigga.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Everybody know been stuck everywhere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's crazy, huh?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I do want to speak about the flights getting cut. My hour goes out to anybody that has to travel. Yeah, right now those wait times look absolutely ridiculous.

[Parks]

I do want to shout out. Soundwave is up for producer of the year with down Dan Arbock from the Black Keys. I don't know how Jack Antonoff is not in this conversation because he did Sabrina Carpenter and fucking Kendrick and Taylor Swift. Hey, like, I don't understand that. That's a. I don't know. I don't get that. Alchemist also should have been in there. He's been busting ass this year. But shout, Soundwave, I'm definitely rooting for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So, yo, as a voter, you can only vote on three or four things, right?

[Ericson]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Got you.

[Parks]

Yes. Three, I believe, is what it is.

[Joe Button]

Well, congratulations to all the nominees.

[Parks]

Three genres, not three awards.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, Three jobs. So all the awards. So if you do rap.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All the rap awards you can vote on.

[Joe Button]

Correct.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ericson]

I have a life goal to get a Grammy in the next. For liner notes.

[Parks]

Oh, okay. You could do that?

[Ericson]

Yeah. Oh, no, it totally could happen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Or like a spoken word album or something like that.

[Ericson]

I got a few angles for this.

[Joe Button]

This.

[Ericson]

When it's my year.

[Parks]

I got you.

[Ericson]

Thank you.

[Parks]

I got you.

[Joe Button]

You got to do something grammable.

[Ericson]

I know you play the flute.

[Joe Button]

Maybe Mark didn't know how to rules.

[Parks]

He could do. L. I think you'd be actually great at li.

[Ericson]

Yeah, Those people before. I just need to do the right people.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Ericson]

I'm supposed to do.

[Joe Button]

One of you want a Grammy for liner notes.

[Ericson]

I want a liner.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, a Grammy for any. What do you want a Grammy for? Anything.

[Joe Button]

I got a Grammy. You do, actually, since you want to talk.

[Ericson]

I didn't know that.

[Joe Button]

I know you didn't.

[Ericson]

Which album? 15.

[Joe Button]

It's Not My album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I always wondered about that. You did get it for that, though, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we all did, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, we all won, but you're not on it. Oh, that didn't matter.

[Joe Button]

My group.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, okay. I wasn't trying to be funny. I always wondered about that.

[Joe Button]

Watch this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If it affected you or not.

[Joe Button]

Watch it.

[Big Mona]

I got a Grammy.

[Ericson]

He got. He got the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A Super bowl ring without hooping. You wouldn't take that.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Parks]

If he wasn't on the scout team.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

You crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I assemble Voltron. Give me my crazy word. Okay. Give me my.

[Big Mona]

Everyone, I have a Grammy.

[Ericson]

You do?

[Big Mona]

Yes.

[Ericson]

For what?

[Big Mona]

I'm on Hotels. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, she got.

[Ericson]

What are you doing on the Hotels?

[Big Mona]

I like. I just.

[Joe Button]

Hold up.

[Ericson]

Don't say she keep it harmonizing.

[Joe Button]

Mona don't say nothing yet.

[Parks]

More of a tedder.

[Joe Button]

But yeah. Cause this is twice in a row. You just hear that. That. That hate and yeah, that ain't done nothing grammable yet. You're not talking like the way that he's asked.

[Ericson]

Played the triangle in the Slaughterhouse record. Acting like he all of a sudden he made Thriller.

[Joe Button]

See, that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's walking. I was trying to shoot.

[Joe Button]

Hey, hey. He talking for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm playing triangle with the Grammy.

[Joe Button]

I don't even hear that noise. He just said liner notes. I don't give a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I play the triangle.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Big Mona]

I'm on. I'm on Jasmine Selling's album and I'm. The intro to the song was like BPW or something, but I just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got to know the song. You got the gram. You got to know the song.

[Big Mona]

The song is bpw. Bpw. Yeah. I was right. Bbw. But it's Mona's Tale. I'm on the album. My name. I'm on a couple albums.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

I ain't know that.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

I didn't know you yet, so I didn't. I let out. Okay. Yeah, congrats.

[Big Mona]

So you don't hear my voice on there. You didn't hear me.

[Ericson]

I didn't. I didn't think about it.

[Big Mona]

I didn't register.

[Ericson]

Yeah, it didn't.

[Big Mona]

Ray is on it. It's a couple people on it.

[Ericson]

Oh, that's what's up. So you're the only Grammy winner up here.

[Joe Button]

Listen. Oh, you should have plenty time when you leave here to work. Work on a poem, some type of spoken word, something, a comedy bit, a children's book, anything. Mark. Jesus.

[Ericson]

I'll work on it.

[Joe Button]

I don't know where we at. We're done with the Grammys.

[Parks]

I think we. I think we got everything. Yeah. Shout out to everybody that's nominated, even the people that aren't. They had great years.

[Joe Button]

Indeed.

[Parks]

The snubs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Chance.

[Parks]

Yeah, Chance was definitely snubbed. He should have been in there for something. I had him in for rap performance, for letters. If I recall correctly, that.

[Ericson]

That would have been one.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Ericson]

Oh, well.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

I'm disappointed. I was rooting for Chance, but. And I think he deserved it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But all the categories I care about look like they kind of got it right. So I'm not mad.

[Parks]

It's tough for so, like, his situation having been a Grammy darling and then kind of disappeared for, like, of a better term for a long time.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And then coming back Even as great as the album it is, it's hard to get back from that.

[Ericson]

Sometimes they make you pay a price for what they consider a bad album.

[Parks]

Yeah, I feel like he's paid the price for 10 years, but.

[Ericson]

Right. But I feel like even the critics and the reviews and stuff like that, I feel like they didn't. I just like the reviews. There weren't enough reviews.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They weren't really fair.

[Ericson]

It's not even. They weren't fair. They weren't enough of them. I feel like people kind of put them in a category almost like they call it, like, the comeback album. They. They framed it like. I think they overstated the decline.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what, too? He was talking a bunch of shit in that album that may not. It ain't Land.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, yeah, went over a lot of. He was saying some shit in that album, dawg.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know if they necessarily wanted to highlight that.

[Parks]

Oh, I don't think that's the issue so much. A lot of these artists, there's a lot of people with strong stances on this list.

[Ericson]

But I get what you're saying in terms of, like, the nuance and the race politics and the deep slate. I mean, he was going place other people don't go. But I don't think that that's the reason. I think. Yeah. I don't even know if they listen to. I don't know if people paid enough respect also.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They might not have heard. Yeah, they might not.

[Ericson]

I feel like they didn't give enough respect.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with that.

[Ericson]

Speaking of people who take stances, have y' all been following Kanye the last couple days?

[Big Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

What has he done now? No, I missed it.

[Ericson]

So I've been on a kind of don't mention Kanye run for the last six months.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We all have.

[Ericson]

But the reason I'm mentioning it now is because a video has come out circulating, and he's asked people to promote. I know academics and other people were asked to post the video.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

Ye is meeting with a rabbi.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

He is apologizing for all of his comments. He's apologizing for the hurt that he caused.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

He still was explaining in a way, a little bit like, you know, people don't understand my bipolar. But he acknowledged that he had bipolar.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

By the way, all you people who said I was over diagnosing Kanye Boxini had bipolar. I was basing it on what people had told me inside that I knew in his family. But, yeah, now he said it, too, so fuck y'.

[Joe Button]

All. He.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He been saying he had.

[Ericson]

I know, but people always. Whenever we say, they act like we're, like, doing some armchair diagnosis. But he. He basically apologized, and it seems like he's on a run now. He met with an Israeli. An Israeli rabbi. An Israeli American. He met with some rabbi with the translator and. And was basically like, hat in hand, like, I'm sorry, please. It feels like he's making a comeback.

[Big Mona]

Please forgive me. Oh, my God. I don't know how to feel about it. I feel like.

[Ericson]

Does it feel sincere to y'?

[Joe Button]

All?

[Big Mona]

I don't. Whether it's sincere or not, I just don't think that you going to a rabbi, this holy guy, and apologizing on camera and then promoting that. I don't think that that. That works. As far as you being a Jewish person and he's saying these nasty things, and you are hurt by it or irritated by whether you a fan or somebody that supports him or whatever. You can't undo that like, that. Like, you know what I mean? You just can't. Like, I don't. I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me. Let me.

[Ericson]

You gotta start somewhere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When. When did that video first circulating the other day?

[Ericson]

Maybe yesterday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And his album drops this week. Well, that's not even.

[Ericson]

What.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't even go into the album. So it. So maybe yesterday.

[Ericson]

Right? Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Well, I'm also on Kanye's mailing list. You know what else dropped yesterday?

[Joe Button]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A full resupply of his Yeezy website with all of the clothes that he's selling and everything. So again, album he brought. The album is coming this week or next week. He drops the album next week. Back to what I keep saying. This is why I don't even want to talk about Kanye no more. I have been saying this. He. He's going to play this game so I can sell you something. I will disappear. Whenever Kanye pops up, there is something to be sold behind it. Wow. No matter what, I don't take nothing he say as genuine anymore. Everything is performing on the mailing list.

[Joe Button]

You got to delete that.

[Ericson]

Every two days, I get my fan club updates.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Every time I renew my membership, I bought them shits. Yo, that's funny, dog. But, yeah, like.

[Joe Button]

But no, I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't understand the. For a year.

[Ericson]

He's correct.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's. That's fair. But I do, like, some acknowledgment of I've been bugging out. Like, yeah. Whether or not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Even if it's not sincere.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm on the opposite side of ice with this.

[Parks]

Yeah. I think that you have to start somewhere. Like Mark said. Like, it's. It's not. I think it's pretty shitty to attach it to a sales item. He should have done it maybe at least a couple weeks apart.

[Ericson]

He said just to give you the quote.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly what he say something. It's attached to a sales item.

[Ericson]

I don't disagree with that. But it.

[Joe Button]

That don't negate somebody's sickness. Right, Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not talking about the sickness. I'm talking about that it got to start somewhere. If it ain't. If it ain't sincere, and if it's okay, let me do this so I can sell this, then that I'm not. That don't do nothing for me. That's your vehicle. He would have had it at a.

[Big Mona]

Time where nothing was going on. I didn't take it serious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The album supposedly is dropping November 7th.

[Parks]

Which is today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is today. So if it didn't drop December 12, I think that you doing that stuff and you publicizing it and you doing all of that shit. So that now I think, me personally, I could be totally wrong. I think he begins his ass whipped financially, I'm sure.

[Parks]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he's been getting his ass whipped financially. And I think you see the power in these. This group of people that you offended the music industry. And I think now you gotta come back with your hat in your hand and make amends. I don't necessarily know.

[Joe Button]

And it wasn't just the music industry.

[Ericson]

I think that was joking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not just the music industry. He's getting his ass whipped financially. And I think that he think he was bigger than the program.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And also, I mean, I'm not Jewish.

[Parks]

But I don't want to support someone that's doing any type of hate speech. I don't care who it's against. So, like, that's been my stance.

[Ericson]

Like, I can't support Kanye because he said things that were blatantly anti submitting. I'm never going to support that. What Kanye said is, I feel really blessed to sit here and take accountability. He was holding the rabbi's hands. He said, I was dealing with various issues. I was dealing with bipolar also. So I would take the ideas I had and forget about the protection of the people around me and myself. So I want to take accountability. He said, so it's like if you left the house and you left your kid at the house and your kid went and messed up the kitchen and messed up the garage and messed up the living room. Then when you got back, it's your responsibility because that's your job. That's the way I look at it. It's like, I gotta go clean up the kitchen. I gotta clean up the living room. I gotta clean up the garage. I don't know who the kid is in that example, but he is.

[Parks]

I think he's a kid.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but.

[Ericson]

No, no. He's saying, you get back to the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

House.

[Big Mona]

When he's out.

[Ericson]

He said the bipolar is the kid and he's the parent. Saying him as the parent.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Got it. Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I loved.

[Joe Button]

I loved his analogy. I'll admit. Maybe I have a soft spot for this type of shit, but I'm not trying to argue nothing. Freeze said. Maybe you can't argue it. He tries to sell shit every time he does something like this. That could be a fact. I put that aside. Also a fact. I believe Kanye to be sick. I've never heard him openly speak like that, acknowledging and kind of owning that I'm sick and this is what my sickness is. Does. A lot of times we just sat here and read that Royce was misdiagnosed for a long time and trying to figure itself out. We just heard Gucci's wife on the radio saying he has a condition, and it made him type things that were hurtful and rageful. And if we don't monitor these things. So I'm not just going to write him off because he may be in financial trouble. I agree with that. And he tries to sell that. I'm not going to do that. Also, people that love him have said that he's had a drug problem. Yeah. So I also know what it's like to come down from that and look at yourself and then have to face what you were and what you did.

[Parks]

So I. I've also dated and had friends that had bipolar or borderline personality disorder. So I have a soft spot, like, for redemption. I think it's okay to work on yourself and try to make small steps towards getting back to where you were. And Kanye is one of our great artists, celebrities, entrepreneurs of our greatest.

[Joe Button]

He will go down when he dies. He will. His name is going to be on that list of my estate is earning 50 million, $100 million. He's one of those people.

[Ericson]

He's him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why y' all acting like this is him first just now speaking on his mental condition. No, he keep doing. Not just that, bro. You could work on yourself. You could work on yourself. And do all of the work that's needed. Applaud that one. But when you go to make amends, why are you televising? And again, I just think the timing is.

[Parks]

Cause you have to. You televised all the files.

[Ericson]

I think the televised part is fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Televise your shit. Making up with your wife televised. I bet you one won't see that. I think they all are. I think they all are.

[Ericson]

It's all different, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not to me.

[Ericson]

Well, here's why.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it's not to me.

[Ericson]

All of his public anti Semitic statements were super public. I mean, he was on tv, video, Internet. So to me, if somebody comes out and says racist and vile things publicly, then the apology has to be just as loud as the offense. Whereas, you know, there might be a million reasons why you want to have a private conversation with your family. You know what I mean? I mean, you may owe your watch in public apology for sure, but I'm just saying don't say racist shit in public and then write a private letter to me. You dig what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with that. I agree with that now.

[Ericson]

I agree with you now. I wish he would. I'd rather see the accountability apology today and the sales six months from now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or the album drop next year.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I'd rather see that. But he said something and Mona, I don't mean to cut you off. He said something that I think is really important, which is this is gonna be something I'm trying to repair brick by brick. So. Meaning, like, I know this ain't solved today. You have to basically see if I've grown. So we'll find out if two months from now he's saying the same wild shit. We could can say, you know, it's. Or it might be part of a journey.

[Parks]

Yeah, true.

[Ericson]

I'm sorry.

[Big Mona]

I mean, you. I mean, you just put it like that. Because I don't. I'm not. I'm a positive person. I try to, like, see the positive things. And it's like even two things can be true at once. It's corny how he's doing it. And yes, we want him to have redemption and we want him to get better. Especially when him getting better just looks like possibly him getting on medication. You know what I mean? Him taking his medication, keeping up with medication, and he could possibly be all right. But the fact that we sitting here acting like that, that's not corny for this. To sit with a rabbi with a camera in his face, apologize to the rabbi to represent the Whole nation of Jews. Like, that's going to work. And then on top of that, that's like reverse. It's a white man. He been running around saying, hard rn. Who the. Does he pick up the blackest person he can, to a point. I'm sorry I said that to y'. All. Matter of fact, I like chicken too. We wouldn't look right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's no way to do that by my product.

[Big Mona]

I'm curious how Jewish people feel about this. I don't know me personally. Personally, it's not. It's poorly done. It looks. It's tacky. And that don't mean that I don't want the best room. I've been. I was. I've had so much love around you. I wouldn't even talk about him. I really, like, did this for as long as I could because it was hard to watch this went on tour because he's sick. He went on tour. Like, please, please listen to me. I hate Jews. I mean, it was rough to watch a lot of that stuff. I mean, you still can want the best friend and want him to have redemption, but still see that this is corny. The way he's going about it is corny.

[Parks]

To be clear, I'm not rushing to buy a Kanye sugar shoes or new album.

[Joe Button]

Like, this is gonna be all the way where.

[Parks]

Where it's not like, poof, healed.

[Joe Button]

Like, I could think one thing about his condition. And like I'm saying, and I'm not. I'm not buying album. Right. That is challenging nothing that he's putting out those. I also don't think that. I'm not judging black people for not feeling the way Jewish people may feel.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I'm not doing that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just don't like my intelligence insulted. That's what it feels like to me.

[Big Mona]

I'm trying to play you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It feel like when he do these moves, it's like, you think we.

[Joe Button]

Stupid Molly, do you think that it was corny when Kevin Hart did his Oscar apology?

[Ericson]

Philly, Stay strong. That wasn't a coincidence. He's picking Philly.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. No, it wasn't corny at all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think. I think. I think that's totally. It's not even remotely close to the same.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, but how not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So Kevin Hart made a mistake 20 years ago or however that's not true. However long it was. I don't know. I don't wanna be semantical. He made a mistake. Cool. Kanye didn't make a mistake. He repeatedly kept doing these things.

[Joe Button]

Oh, so you put nothing to it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me finish my sentence. Please, let me finish my sentence. I think that when you continue with a pattern of behavior, it's who you are. I think when you keep saying these things. So you can now come out and say, yo, dawg, I shouldn't have said those things because they were hurtful.

[Joe Button]

So you don't believe. It's conditional.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me finish, please. You could say I said these things because they were hurtful, but that don't mean I don't believe them. I shouldn't have said them, maybe publicly, but that don't mean I don't believe those things. You understand what I'm saying? So I think the real apology is change behavior.

[Big Mona]

And we'll say you think he, an asshole, went bipolar.

[Joe Button]

That's not Minority Report, where you get to castrate people for their thoughts. What the fuck are you talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who said that? You do. We don't want. We don't. We wouldn't know your thoughts.

[Joe Button]

We take. We. They took Donald Sterling's team, not because of what he thought, but because you said something publicly and they recorded it. The same. The same here. Like you could think whatever you want. He said a bunch of shit. But back to the question I was trying to ask you. You put nothing on his condition because everything you just said, I put toward his condition.

[Parks]

And those conditions, again, as someone who's been very close to them, are fucking intense.

[Joe Button]

So you give more grace to the guy that don't have no condition, get on Twitter, say a whole bunch of foul shit, a few years later, take it back, do the apology than the dude that's sick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm saying that you could potentially be sick. It's like, what's the quote? A drunk tongue speaks a sober mind.

[Parks]

It say drunk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just making an analogy.

[Parks]

I get it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, a drunk tongue speaks a sober mind. So, yeah, you could be sick. And when you go through whatever the case may be and you're not on your medication or your true thoughts come.

[Parks]

Out, that's not accurate.

[Joe Button]

That's some stick.

[Parks]

That's inaccurate. Okay, that's an accurate. Again, as someone. And shout out to anybody that's dealing with people with these conditions or suffering from these conditions directly. And again, I'm not forgiving Kanye across the board, but that is intense. And it's not just. I'm saying what I really feel like, that It's. It's a mania.

[Joe Button]

It's.

[Parks]

It's.

[Ericson]

It's.

[Joe Button]

You're not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I deal with that in my personal life as well. And there was people that say that mean. That mean comes from somewhere. That's some. That's a thought that they have in their head. That mean comes from where? And they keep repeating.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And they keep, bro. All right, cool. But you're not the only person that have dealt with that. I deal with that on a consistent basis. And that comes from somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Okay, but it also cannot. Right, I follow, but it also cannot.

[Ericson]

But just I don't want to be circular about it. Yeah. I will say this. Yes, certain mental illnesses can make you say what's inside, and it can make you say them louder. But they can also, certain psychoses produce delusion. So you can also, for example, watch a bunch of racist people say racist shit, and you have a mental illness, you start parroting what they say, and that's not actually what you feel. So sometimes it's the drunk tongue. I think you're right. But sometimes it's not. And I don't want to diagnose Kanye because I'm not his doctor.

[Joe Button]

I don't even like the drunk tongue example. That's why you're talking about somebody that's truly sick. If you believe that. I'm not forcing that.

[Ericson]

But yeah, and this is where we should leave it to the mental health professionals. But people say racist things for a very variety of reasons. Not just sometimes they're secretly racist, sometimes they're not, and they're just delusion as part of their psychosis. So we'll find out.

[Parks]

We will find out.

[Ericson]

We'll find out. That's. That's the point.

[Big Mona]

One of my favorite TikTok pages is a guy who goes back and talks about times he was in, like, manic and how crazy shit it get. And of course, he's medicated now, but often when he telling them stories, he's like, I can't believe I did that. I can't believe it's so far from what he is painting his nails, shaving his head, and he'll show the videos. But it's one of my favorite pages. I love you.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Okay, and this topic will come up again later. In this episode. We got Antonio Brown to talk about. Yeah, we got the gentleman from the Cowboys. Rest in peace, Marshawn. Marshawn Nealon. So this topic will. Will come up again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So just real quick. My only thing with Kanye is he has made this. You know, I believe he's sick. To your point, it also looks like. Just looks. I don't know his personal business. It looks like at times you don't. You're not trying to do anything about this and you're, you're allowing this to keep happening publicly.

[Parks]

That's, that's really tricky because that again, as someone who dated for a long time, someone with bpd, which is different from bipolar, but similar kind of behaviors, the medication is life altering. They don't feel the same anything. So it's hard for them to stay committed to that, let alone talk about therapy and all the nuance that comes with therapy. And people don't want to go through that. It's really tough.

[Ericson]

It's not like to be a crude example. It's not like an STI where it's like, oh, I'm burning. Let me take this pill so I don't burn. It's like the illness itself makes you not want to get better or it makes you think that you don't need to get better. So it's not like, because, I mean, as someone who struggles with depression, people always say, well, why don't you just. People always say, why don't you just go to the doctor? Why don't you just take this? It's like, it's not that easy. If it were, we would all do it.

[Joe Button]

So. And I don't expect the Jewish community to have this same type of grace and warmth.

[Ericson]

And neither does he.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

And that's what he said. He said it brick by brick. He said, I know this is just the first step because I wouldn't have that response if someone were saying anti black shit all the time. I would be like, I don't think it's their job. I need years. You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So let me ask you a question. Outside of the racial shit that. Nevermind.

[Big Mona]

We're never gonna get off of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, we good. We can move forward.

[Joe Button]

You know, I could still at least hear the question, so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because we keep making this about racism or, pardon me, not racism or whatever his religious, anti Semitic statements have been. He said things about his family. He said things about Jay Z's family. He said a bunch of hurtful shit about a whole bunch of different topics. Not just racism in itself. We compartmentalize. I mean, not compartmentalizing. We generalizing. Just one thing that he said. He, he said a, a bunch of shit for decades about people that are close to him or whatever the case may be. I just think that. I don't know. I think he. No, I think he is sick. I'm not disagreeing with it, but I.

[Ericson]

Think that you think he feels some of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know, I know. I just don't Think your sickness go away when it's time for you to sell some.

[Big Mona]

So it's almost like you think that he is an. With bipolar. Like he thinks he has bipolar, but he's just an. That's what you think?

[Ericson]

I think that's true. I'm sure that's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep. I think that leads to the performative part on my end because where's the. Where's the apologies to all of them? Where's you trying to make up to them at? Why. Why is that not publicized? You publicized this? Why? Because you. You know why. I don't even have to say it. You know why you needed to show you making up to this particular person from this particular group publicly. And there's a reason for that. You've heard a lot of people. You said a lot of shit. You said shit about black people. You know, you ain't got no videos out here with nobody else doing that. Exactly. And then at the same time, you come back same day. Oh, I'm also selling my whole website is restocked album come like, yo, get out of here. I don't like they didn't even work on people.

[Ericson]

Yeah, some of the shit he says about black, like slavery was a choice all this. I think he actually believes that. But some of the more. More hurtful he said about personally about people and their kids and all that stuff. To your point, this point, I'd love to see that apology tour come out because if that doesn't that tells you something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It says a lot.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I think that's a great point. I think that's a great point.

[Joe Button]

Time will tell saying that they all the way wrong. I'm just saying it's that mentality that make people not send their family to homes. Like, is that a lizard on be treating the. The sickly like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, it's just sometime. But sometimes some people use that and hide behind another topic. I want. I want to bring back up another topic we discussed the other day. I don't know if it was on the Patreon or the main, but I want to hear how everybody sts and see if it changes on that.

[Joe Button]

All right. What you say, Mona?

[Big Mona]

Is that a diamond lizard on your heart?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

It look like almost like a Shriner kind of thing going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salamander.

[Big Mona]

Salamander. That's who he is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salamander.

[Joe Button]

Like, yeah, it goes with this whole.

[Big Mona]

I. I need that. I need that.

[Joe Button]

Whatever. Whatever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crocodile Dundee.

[Big Mona]

We both. I mean, I don't know. I didn't wear the diamond.

[Joe Button]

You're not talking About. Wait, what?

[Big Mona]

I didn't wear the diamond hat. I asked about the diamond hat because I thought it was a lizard. A diamond lizard Slytherin around your head. And it is. It's cute.

[Joe Button]

Mona, you dressed like Steve Irwin.

[Big Mona]

I don't care. Oh, I don't care.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crikey.

[Joe Button]

And rest in peace, Steve. That's my man.

[Parks]

Fuck that stingray.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fuck that stingray. That's my man.

[Joe Button]

I know. I'm not going that far.

[Big Mona]

Doesn't his son do it now?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, no, you right. You're right. Still the stingray.

[Joe Button]

I say all stingrays.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm down here swimming, minding my business in my house. White person want to come here and get close. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

You can't. Did say this thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Territory, y'.

[Ericson]

All.

[Big Mona]

That is a. Yeah, like.

[Joe Button]

And that ain't it in. In Tiger King. One or two, cuz they put it out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tiger King.

[Big Mona]

I love Tiger King, too.

[Ericson]

I did too, actually.

[Joe Button]

That and the one about the killing the cats.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't.

[Ericson]

That was the.

[Joe Button]

With cats.

[Big Mona]

Those two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't.

[Big Mona]

Don't. With Cats was amazing.

[Joe Button]

Classic date doc cinema. Yes. But anyway, in Tiger King, they was looking for them bodies that they said she dumped in the. In the dumpsters and had the tigers eating.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. Carol Baskins.

[Joe Button]

Hey. And he in jail.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

He ain't getting nothing.

[Joe Button]

Begging for a pardon. Puff bragging about a pardon. And Lion King in there just.

[Big Mona]

He keep him a nigga. Cause you know he's openly gay now.

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Big Mona]

He's openly gay now. He keep him a man.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He put the butthole pics on the Internet.

[Joe Button]

I remember.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, he got married to a little young boy, too. I'm happy for you.

[Joe Button]

If Trump let Puff out. Lion King is Tiger. I mean. Yeah. Tiger King is Lion because he. He's of the impression that he not let him out because he's gay. That is probably what's going on. Yeah.

[Ericson]

It might be all in bodies.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But now you let Tyler King. Tyler King might. If you let Puff out, it can't be that day. Oh, Ice is wild. Yo.

[Big Mona]

He not that uncomfortable in jail.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Puff has more things to offer than Tiger, man. Yo, that could.

[Joe Button]

They show pictures of Puff in there talking to Sebastian Telfair.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Who's also in there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They're in the same jail.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah. They in four dicks.

[Big Mona]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

And I said, sebastian, you better enjoy. They were smiling. You better.

[Ericson]

You better take pictures.

[Joe Button]

Just have fun.

[Big Mona]

How do they get some pictures? How can that be? How can we see that? See Risk everything when famous Come around. Just stupid.

[Joe Button]

Sebastian.

[Ericson]

They probably got paid great for them photos.

[Big Mona]

Federal cos start off at like 8, 80 to 100 grand.

[Ericson]

And he probably got 20 for that photo. And speaking of jail, I'd pay 10 for it myself.

[Big Mona]

Would you, Nick?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Would you say what?

[Ericson]

Prison photo? A puff. You know how much money I can make off that? That should be right on. Patreon.com Mark Lamont Hill official.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He only got six months. Yeah, Sebastian.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm not saying he got a long time coming home. I'm saying that when they out, he.

[Ericson]

Ain'T gonna see him again. He might not even get in the club.

[Joe Button]

That's not true. That's not true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, that's not true.

[Big Mona]

You never know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I heard the jail friends be a lifetime bomb.

[Big Mona]

I'm telling you, I had friends for that. Never. We never.

[Joe Button]

Oh, speaking of, I heard about jail. Let me just do this before the ad real quick, before we got to get to the money. I now have a better understanding of why y' all seem 5 percenterish. But y' all are not who I. Now I get it.

[Big Mona]

Y' all who them too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm still stuck on how I seen.

[Joe Button]

5% understand how people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please enlighten us.

[Joe Button]

Can convert to that. That weren't before. Yeah, I get it now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please enlighten.

[Joe Button]

Now I see why it's surrounded by the nation when he's outside. Now I see why leave you alone, somewhat like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What are you talking about?

[Joe Button]

Y' all have safety now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, great. Gandalf. Please enlighten us with your wisdom.

[Joe Button]

Y' all have safety now. You have the protection that you've needed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. First, I'm not surrounded by nobody when I'm out, so I never knew I really needed no protection in the street.

[Joe Button]

That did shady shit like Snitch or.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some other shit turned Muslim when they went to jail now.

[Joe Button]

And now I have a better understanding.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm outside. I ain't never went to jail.

[Joe Button]

And that's why I get it now with y' all, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What are you talking about?

[Joe Button]

I just know now.

[Big Mona]

Crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is nuts.

[Joe Button]

It makes sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, you need to take your Shahada quick. Then you can come outside. You can come outside then.

[Joe Button]

If that's the case, you need to go to. You can go to Jersey City when you want. Damn, dog.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And speaking of jail, it's. Well, this drops tomorrow, so tomorrow Max B. Comes home. So free the Wave.

[Big Mona]

The Wave going to the Wave.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Guy been waiting for that for 15 years. Salute.

[Big Mona]

This nigga is so mean, bro. This Lie, bro.

[Ericson]

He really is.

[Big Mona]

Cory need a mic on his shirt. Like he does not have a heart.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nowhere.

[Joe Button]

No, Cory does not need.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He does not need a mic.

[Joe Button]

A mic. There's a reason he don't have one.

[Big Mona]

I like it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he don't need a mic. I like working. No, I don't want Cory to have a mic.

[Joe Button]

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[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rushing them.

[Joe Button]

Oh, oh, oh. Rushing yards. Sorry about that. More than 62 rushing yards. Sam Laporter for more than 45 and a half receiving yards. And Alvin Camara for more than 13 and a half receiving yards. Camara, you have been an absolute dub dud for me this season. Wow. I was hoping I've been betrayed. Yeah, but they keep putting up three points and three points only. Or he could keep going to the goal line and fumbling like I don't know what's going on, but. But it's hurting me. I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're gonna get 13 receiving yards. That's all.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

You know that's true. That's all that matter. That's true. Don't forget to download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP for your chance to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. Only on prize picks where it's good to be.

[Ericson]

Right.

[Joe Button]

All right, what else we got popping out there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now? We're gonna talk about Mark first. Okay, we gotta talk about Mark.

[Joe Button]

Thank God, because I almost forgot about this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, I'm glad y' all didn't talk about. Oh, he Wasn't here.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that last week had some good, good, good keno. Edith came up here and made some great food for us.

[Parks]

I was ready for bed after that. That was the only problem with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was amazing.

[Joe Button]

It was Mac and cheese, collard greens, all that cornbread. Corn, cornbread. Fried chicken. I'm talking about pans.

[Parks]

Good night.

[Joe Button]

Pans.

[Parks]

Made for a long Friday.

[Joe Button]

Just some really good food for the people that work here and the people that are here behind the scenes. Right, man?

[Ericson]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

And solid move by Keena.

[Parks]

Amazing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You were saying? Please. I didn't mean to take.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. I mean, yeah, great food.

[Joe Button]

Food.

[Ericson]

Great gesture.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we also noticed Mark wasn't eating.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. No, Sometimes people don't want to eat. That's fine.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

It keeps me awake.

[Joe Button]

And if you don't eat other people's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Food, like, it could be a million.

[Joe Button]

Reasons why someone's not eating.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You might have dinner plans with your lady, and you gotta have an appetite. So I understand all of that.

[Joe Button]

So that's where I want to stop y' all for a second and. And. And ask y' all if that happens and you don't eat.

[Parks]

Tricky. It's tricky.

[Joe Button]

What. What is? The. What is. What is law? And Mark did have a piece of chicken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, so you did eat a piece of chicken. See, I didn't.

[Joe Button]

Okay, he ate a piece of chicken.

[Ericson]

I attempted to have a piece of chicken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You mute up.

[Joe Button]

You know what bars can you queue up?

[Big Mona]

The.

[Joe Button]

Queue it up. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

It.

[Joe Button]

We here you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, Right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Cuz now. Now I'm mad. Cause Mark did have a piece of chicken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, I didn't know that. That changes a lot.

[Joe Button]

I seen him eat it. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We gonna let Parks queue it up.

[Parks]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Joe Button]

So then he said, I'm not eating, but I will take a plate home for my beautiful wife who I. Who my love has no bounds for boundless. Boundless love. He said that? I've met his wife. All right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's mute up for me.

[Joe Button]

His wife is amazing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's get it.

[Joe Button]

Shall mute us for a minute, man. Shout out to Melissa. This is a little harder. A rab did this. It sound like they added something to the soul. It sound like the James Brown version. Yeah.

[Ericson]

Do some karate.

[Parks]

70S slur.

[Joe Button]

Okay. I'm not mad at that. I like that. That's groovy. Yeah, we taking. We taking y' all good. Brother Mark. The Homie Court. Nothing you could do about it. He's going to Homie Court. Sorry.

[Ericson]

Roasted level of homie. Court.

[Joe Button]

Sorry. Angela Rai.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Sorry. Tiffany Cross. Sorry. Charlamagne. Sorry. Mom. Donnie. I'm sorry. Sorry, Sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mickey.

[Joe Button]

Sherelle. It's gotta happen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mikey. Cheryl.

[Joe Button]

Is it Mikey?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mickey.

[Joe Button]

His governor.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mickey.

[Joe Button]

I voted for it. Hey, wait, you're not. Yeah. You mute up? Actually. Yeah. This is a voting. Voters can laugh. Hey, we won Virginia without you. We won Virginia without you. Congrats to the winners. Mark said, I'm not gonna eat, but I will take a plate of food home. Respectable for my beautiful wife, Melissa, whom I love. Has no bounds for those exact words. I met his wife, one of my favorite people. For sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's awesome.

[Joe Button]

She came to my birthday dinner. She did. She came to the basketball game. I like Mark's wife's energy.

[Parks]

Well, now that we put the birthday dinner, it's all making sense a little bit, but carry on.

[Joe Button]

So if there's one person that we could bend the food rules for, I think it's Mark's wife.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And nobody answered your question.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nobody answered your question.

[Joe Button]

If you're not eating at the. At the work function where they're providing the food for the people that work there to eat, what should happen? I'm asking the room.

[Big Mona]

You should still be able to get a plate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

That's what Mona says.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's going home.

[Joe Button]

This is so easy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all laid the case out all up. I'm not eating. I'm cool. I would. I just wouldn't.

[Joe Button]

But what should happen?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just wouldn't eat. But would you take a plate? No. No.

[Ericson]

Should you be able to?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Parks]

A reasonable plate is reasonable.

[Joe Button]

I agree. I think you should be able to take a reasonable place plate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you should be able to take a plate.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, let's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's focus on the word plate.

[Joe Button]

One plate of food there. You glazing this?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

God damn. All right, you going down with him, then he'll both be bunkies. I don't care. I think we got his ass. Mark goes and makes a whole tray of food.

[Parks]

A sheet pan. A full sheet pan.

[Joe Button]

A big one. That's a small sheet pan, aluminum pan that you bake.

[Big Mona]

Macaroni and cheese.

[Joe Button]

The same one that the Mac and cheese came in?

[Parks]

No, no, the one you get from, like, the catering company. Yes, like a sheet pan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's a half Bunsen burger.

[Ericson]

Let me see if I got.

[Joe Button]

And he filled this thing up. I had pictures of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, wait, not just that video.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you know, I have pictures.

[Big Mona]

He did not fill the whole thing up. It was a lot, but it wasn't full.

[Parks]

It was a whole.

[Big Mona]

I saw some of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't fill it. Like, he didn't even make the pan in one trip. He was grabbing chicken. He did and walking. First off, the pan was hitting in the other room. Facts with on top with on it. So nobody saw the pan. You grabbing chicken, walking in the other rooms, tucking it like you a squirrel.

[Joe Button]

Your man right now. But listen, Ice, Ice, because we working and there's so much going on. I go up there and put two flats on the plate like I ain't trying to really. I'll come back later, get the chicken after. So when the chicken is gone and Mark, who ate a piece of chicken, look at me and say, well, I took some chicken home for my wife. Then so be it. But then he goes to the back and gets the tray and it comes out the two hands and it's five pieces of steroid chicken breast. The biggest pieces of chicken that you ever saw in this after you already had one. The rest of the tray is full.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And ain't no more chicken left.

[Joe Button]

And there's no more chicken left. No. No more damn near food left.

[Parks]

I was still hungry.

[Joe Button]

Me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me three.

[Joe Button]

Me too. I wanted. I wanted some chicken once we was done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like all right now.

[Joe Button]

And Mark went home and didn't see nothing. Nothing wrong with that.

[Big Mona]

So y' all really went to get eat again. And it was.

[Joe Button]

And I had smoke coming from my head for the next four days.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I take the. No, you said it. Yo, yo, you serious? Yo, Mark, I know you joking.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, see, but I. He see nothing wrong. But I have a working theory about Mark that this supports. Mark gets Miz Mark. What? Mark and all that good edumacation degree PhD. I'm teaching a class when he turned into Miz.

[Big Mona]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

All that is out the window. That was the. He stole the chicken thief, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He thought he was in the cult again. I never saw a stashing chickens a piece at a time, yo, ever.

[Joe Button]

It was all huge chicken and you. And it's the nigga with whom you want. You choose to place your faith. Is that what you're saying? You support this type of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You wouldn't do that.

[Ericson]

Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would never do.

[Ericson]

Can you represent me in this case?

[Joe Button]

I could. I'd love to hear it.

[Ericson]

Please.

[Joe Button]

I'd love. Oh, y' all two friends again. I'd love to hear it. Let me hear, man times. Let me hear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't know.

[Joe Button]

Let me hear. You knew.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me hear if Mark Is taking home one. Y' all said he could take home a plate for his wife.

[Parks]

True.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nobody objects.

[Joe Button]

I don't object.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is true. Okay, cool. Then secondly, y' all also said that he could be allowed to take home a plate for himself.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Parks]

Uh huh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So. So if your wife is a grown woman.

[Parks]

Uh huh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's two pieces of chicken and she's black.

[Joe Button]

Yo, y' all be slow. Y' all are slow. I'm learning that in my fucking 40s too. Niggas is slow, bro.

[Big Mona]

A plate. When you baking a plate for somebody. Official plate for an adult is usually two pieces of chicken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I want to finish. And I want to finish. So if Mark took two pieces of chicken home for his wife.

[Parks]

Grab two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And if Mark is a grown man and he eats three pieces of chicken, that's reasonable to say that five pieces of chicken are in the plate?

[Ericson]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Number two, I was here that day. Even though I didn't see Mark walk up with his stash, all of the actual plates were gone. There were no more plates for anybody.

[Big Mona]

To eat off of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All of the plates were gone. I ate out of a big ass plastic tupperware bowl. Was eating out of any container that they could find.

[Big Mona]

True.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So there were no official plates left for Mark to take. Hence him grabbing the aluminum thing and eating out of that.

[Big Mona]

God damn it. That boy's good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Boom.

[Ericson]

Jailhouse lawyer, my man.

[Big Mona]

Talk about that boy is good, man.

[Ericson]

They tried to set me up.

[Big Mona]

They try to set you up?

[Ericson]

They try to set me up.

[Parks]

We want to bring some exhibits into the.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, it's great.

[Ericson]

Exhibit.

[Parks]

Exhibit. A plate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is a plate.

[Parks]

And this is two plates.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is two plates.

[Parks]

Just two plates.

[Joe Button]

Put them together.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Put them side by side.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

This. It's a shame we got to do this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is the size of the aluminum tray.

[Joe Button]

No. Was smaller, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on, let me. Let me. Allow me to finish. This was also still available over there.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was eating out of that.

[Ericson]

Was eating out of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People ate out of that.

[Ericson]

Have to bring that back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm saying. People ate.

[Parks]

Aluminum tray was double that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn. Twice the size.

[Parks]

It was double that size.

[Ericson]

Yes, it was. I can't wait for the video to come.

[Joe Button]

I can't believe that y'. All. I can't even believe that they trying to defend this, boo.

[Ericson]

Because it's the truth. I took up. We both.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I'm just going by what y' all said. I wasn't here. I didn't see his full plate of food. I'm going. You got Be up too. No, I don't. I'm going. Evidence.

[Joe Button]

That's his favorite to talk about. We.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We talking to people that saw the tray.

[Joe Button]

How deep was the tray? That's important. The TR was this deep.

[Ericson]

It was a Mac and cheese tray. I saw the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't see the amount of food in the tray. I saw the tray. That's important. He has covered on top of the tray stashing it. I saw.

[Ericson]

I hid it behind bags of chips.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's also important. What I'm saying is, why are you stashing. Why do you have the.

[Ericson]

Because I lived in a cult and we see bees and rats. Every cult.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No more. My.

[Big Mona]

You free.

[Ericson]

Maybe. But you never know when somebody gonna come take your chicken, so you gotta hide it. I'm used to hiding food.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You used to get your chicken token.

[Joe Button]

That's what it is.

[Ericson]

You know what's funny?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You used to get your chicken to.

[Big Mona]

That was moving around fast as.

[Ericson]

That's what happened over there. Wing check. He didn't eat it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, what's that name? Laugh a lot off a good full stomp. Get full and hearty.

[Big Mona]

Hard.

[Joe Button]

Hard.

[Ericson]

Personally, everything is said is true, right? I took enough for me and my wife to eat dinner. I didn't take many sides. I don't even eat Mac and cheese.

[Joe Button]

That's six pieces of chicken between y' all. Two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It went from five to six.

[Joe Button]

No. Well, math, man, he ate one plus five is six.

[Ericson]

That's questionable. I also think I get a little grace because.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Audience, Audience, audience.

[Joe Button]

Hold up for a minute, Mark.

[Ericson]

Audience, audience. I think I deserve a little grace because for the last 12 months, twice a week, I bring them donuts and chicken.

[Big Mona]

A point.

[Ericson]

Thousands of dollars in food. So I think I deserve an extra piece of chicken. You niggas forgot open that fridge right now. It's filled with juice and beverages. It doesn't get stocked by Joe. It gets stocked by me.

[Joe Button]

Big Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nobody up here asked you to do that.

[Ericson]

We told you to bring chicken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We told you.

[Ericson]

I asked you to stop doing it.

[Joe Button]

We literally said stop doing it because.

[Ericson]

Chicken is bad for your health. Right?

[Joe Button]

So why are you bitching about me taking more chicken? Yes, you're free. The people. I'm free. Me and Diddy come home next week, babies.

[Ericson]

Chicken and Diddy come at home. We told you to stop bringing chicken. Cause it's bad. But you ate chicken. We mad. Which one is it, Joe? Pick one.

[Joe Button]

Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The brother said you on your health journey. He tried to take a picture.

[Ericson]

I saved his ass.

[Joe Button]

Mark. Is too educated for me to think that he believes hemper fried chicken nuggets twice a week is the equivalent of Kino and his beautiful partner going out of their way to cook for us once in a while.

[Ericson]

Eight already.

[Joe Button]

That's not the same. Do you think that's the same mark, yes or no?

[Ericson]

I think it. I think it merits me getting one extra piece. Yes.

[Joe Button]

Do you think that that is the equivalent of each other, is my question.

[Ericson]

Yes, I do.

[Joe Button]

Why you ain't take this?

[Ericson]

My answer is yes.

[Joe Button]

No, it ain't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me ask you a question.

[Ericson]

I think it's more actually, let me ask you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you take drumsticks?

[Ericson]

Because it went. Unless. I don't even like white meat.

[Joe Button]

Oh, sh.

[Ericson]

The last Po. In fact, the drumstick I tried to take, Po took off my tray. And that's why he's over there laughing, because I wanted that drumstick.

[Big Mona]

Man, I'm taking something.

[Joe Button]

I cannot believe that they defending this corner.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Big ass breasts.

[Ericson]

I don't even like chicken breasts.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Five breasts.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, Right?

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was two breasts. What you get on a two piece.

[Ericson]

Or a three piece? It was not five.

[Joe Button]

As soon as we saw him take two pieces. I'm going to find video or picture if you think I don't have.

[Ericson]

It was two breasts.

[Joe Button]

Five.

[Ericson]

A wing and a lip.

[Joe Button]

Don't worry, I have it. We will find it. It was five. He didn't even ask. Hey, did everybody eat that part?

[Ericson]

No, he was. Everybody ate and went back to work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He knew he was out of line. That's why he knew he had to take the chicken a piece at a time.

[Ericson]

No, I hit it because Po checked me for my. For the leg. And I was like, I can't afford to lose no more chicken after you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Already had about 30.

[Ericson]

I couldn't lose nothing.

[Joe Button]

He had six.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you wanted seven then.

[Joe Button]

Paul, how many pieces of chicken you had, Parks?

[Parks]

Two, I think. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

One, two.

[Joe Button]

Ish. Two little ones for me, Cory.

[Parks]

Two little thighs.

[Joe Button]

One. Eric said, how many pieces of chicken you had?

[Ericson]

Joe's leaving out an important detail. Joe, when you texted me the next day, how many more pieces of chicken.

[Joe Button]

Did you find, Erickson? Not find. Because that's a lie. Not fined.

[Ericson]

How many more did you eat?

[Joe Button]

Not eat. That's the wrong word, too. That's the wrong word.

[Ericson]

But just answer my question. How many did you have?

[Joe Button]

But that's the wrong.

[Ericson]

How many chicken did you choose?

[Joe Button]

You are attempting to intro new evidence. Yes. That has nothing to do with what we talking about, Eric.

[Ericson]

Sam, he said one.

[Parks]

He said one.

[Joe Button]

One piece of chicken Erickson had. I still and your ass walk out of here. You should be a fucking shame to yourself now, because Keno is a third black. He no, he read the black Bible. We know the game. There's a stash.

[Ericson]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

For niggas like you.

[Ericson]

Oh, here. Here's the chicken. And here's the pan, by the way, that y' all say was the size of seven shopping carts. It's a very small pan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not big.

[Joe Button]

That's not. That's not a full picture of the pan.

[Big Mona]

Those are all breasts, though, Mark.

[Ericson]

This is Joe's chicken, not mine.

[Joe Button]

That's Keto's status. Keno heard me complaining about Mark's thievery.

[Ericson]

And he's a thief.

[Joe Button]

And he said, yo, I have a stash. The next day I'll bring some chicken.

[Ericson]

That's the other thing. When I asked when Keno should be.

[Joe Button]

Ashamed when I took the chicken, Keno.

[Ericson]

Said, I got more upstairs. I'm bringing it back down. Which he never brought down.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Ericson]

Also, I didn't know I was taking the last chicken. That's the other piece, Mark.

[Joe Button]

You should be ashamed.

[Ericson]

I have no shit.

[Joe Button]

Erickson had one piece, you slimy chicken.

[Parks]

Out of Erickson's mouth here.

[Joe Button]

What? This guy.

[Ericson]

Could be worse.

[Joe Button]

Crazy Erickson.

[Ericson]

I got you, Erickson. You want some chicken? I got you.

[Joe Button]

I, I, I, I. I got a guilty 12 guilties.

[Ericson]

I think the fans will speak, but I think.

[Joe Button]

I think. I think he's guilty all the way around the board. He's guilty all the way around the board. Like, no charge.

[Ericson]

I'm being stealing. I'm being railroaded.

[Joe Button]

Being a chicken.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's chicken hoarding.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Being ghetto at the.

[Joe Button]

Most.

[Ericson]

Ghetto at the podcast.

[Joe Button]

No, but that's. But that's why you charge because you play this prestigious and you are a ghetto sack of. Yes, you down. I keep telling your little smart friends, he ain't all that y' all crack.

[Ericson]

Him up to be.

[Joe Button]

He's layered, God damn it.

[Big Mona]

He's layered.

[Joe Button]

No, I with Mark, but. And I. I'm glad your wife enjoy the chicken. You, I hope, choked at least a.

[Parks]

Little bit of heartburn.

[Joe Button]

I hope your wife enjoyed some chicken and then called the EMTs for you. Did the Heimlich a little pep.

[Parks]

Little Pepto. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I hope you needed a Tums for that is hilarious.

[Joe Button]

What else? What else we got up there? What else we got there? It's important or unimportant. I don't Care.

[Big Mona]

It's the weekend that guy got extradited from Dubai. Is that up there?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Antonio Brown, Free ab.

[Joe Button]

Well, what? Well, what? Let's talk about it. I say free ab, and I think it's up what they doing to him, and I think that's independent of his CTE that I believe him to have.

[Big Mona]

What really happened, though?

[Ericson]

Does anybody know he went to the.

[Joe Button]

Aiden Ross little boxing. Boxing thingamajiggy over there. They tried to rob him and beat him up. He. They had them all on the floor. The video came out, they tumbled up. He got up, chased somebody or. I don't know, the details are fuzzy. But he shot. He shot. He shot in the air to get people off him is his story. Their story is he was just harassing somebody and threatened them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not true, though. Cause we saw him. It was an altercation that took place, right? He wasn't just out here bullying nobody. There was an altercation that took place. He got up and started letting go.

[Ericson]

They say he grabbed the gun from the security guard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was his version.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The other person who came forward's version was me. And dude got into it over some shit that happened in Dubai, over some stolen jewelry. That's what this is about. Like he owed me something. And we got into it over that. So it wasn't just the random. Some shit happened in the club like.

[Joe Button]

Like he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where I think he himself up. Antonio Brown is when all that happened. First thing he did, he jumped on Twitter and was like, yo, I wasn't detained. I wasn't arrested. I didn't do nothing. They tried to jump. Like you putting kind of like a statement out and some ongoing shit. And if video evidence comes out and says, hey, this don't match your statement.

[Ericson]

It looks bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, now it looks bad. So it kind of looked a little bad for him. Then you ran over to the UAE so that you couldn't get picked up, right. And you kind of hit something. Looks who said that. That's why he ran over there. UAE got extradition, so it ain't like you can't. They can't come get you. Well, they did.

[Joe Button]

And to my understanding, he. He. They took him after that altercation. They let him out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They let him go. He said I wasn't well. Yeah, they took what he said, okay, we let you go. And then.

[Joe Button]

And this is in Florida, by the way, video came out where all of those.

[Big Mona]

Kill people in Florida and get away with it. It's been stories in Florida where drug dealers have been in more than two Occasions where they've been standoffs and they kill somebody and they beat it and they know it's over drugs. That's how big it is to be able to see, to protect yourself in Florida. But this is what I want to know. I. What the. Does Hayden Ross pay them? Because I still don't understand why people hang with Aiden Ross. Aiden Ross is like, I think he was paying him. Okay. Yeah. Because why do people sit with that? I don't get it. I don't get why people sit with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I saw the video too. You seen the video? No, I didn't watch the video. And like, I mean, my thing is it don't matter what it happened over. It could have stemmed from something.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Later on, if he can prove that, yo, I'm. I'm wherever the I am and somebody assaulted me and pushed up on me and I'm defending myself. So I let some shots go in Florida. You coming home?

[Big Mona]

Good.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

The, the.

[Ericson]

By the way, he's being charged with second degree murder. Faces up to 15 years, $100,000 fine.

[Big Mona]

He's being charged with what?

[Ericson]

Second degree attempted murder. I'm sorry, forgive me. I'm about to say ain't nobody second degree attempted murder.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Forgive me.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I just want that give people the context.

[Joe Button]

Free AB, man.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, free AB. Then.

[Joe Button]

I don't agree with 99% of the shit that AB does or says. He's also someone else that I believe to be sick. That's my own belief. I don't have proof. But this incident in Florida, with what happened with him going to the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he has a good chance. I'm just saying that the moves after that don't really.

[Ericson]

He tweeted that.

[Joe Button]

He tweeted yesterday. Some God is good. So hopefully he received some good news with that. But I done seen the Florida laws take care of too many people that did some shit. Absolutely. For me to think that AB deserves this. And I 100% think, listen, recognize, recognize when you're making not just a bad decision, but a series of bad decisions. Like some of some things are preventable. Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, he just.

[Joe Button]

And again, I think he's the victim here. I'm not victim blaming, but he had all of the incidents with the police at his house wasn't the greatest, but we saw it publicly. Actually, anything that's happened with him, we've kind of seen it publicly. He doesn't get the mental health pass. He don't. So just look at him like, sort of like Kanye.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, he's Kanye you know, you know why people don't give him the mental health pass? Because he, he play into it like, my. My brand is ctespn. Like, I'm, I'm. I'm. I'm making like a mockery of it. Like.

[Joe Button]

So that's the reason to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no. I'm just saying we are sick up here.

[Joe Button]

Yo, if, if, if it's sick, guys, I understand what you're saying.

[Ericson]

It's hard.

[Joe Button]

We have to acknowledge that this country and a lot of the people in it just say it. It's like, don't give a. About mental health.

[Ericson]

Like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think it's.

[Joe Button]

He played into it. Yo. C. Sbn. I don't think that's enough to negate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't say gnostic. I was giving examples. But I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying you did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

I'm not making you the mascot for this, okay? Like, we just talking, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying a lot of people look at these actions where. Well, you know, I got cte. Ha ha ha, ha ha. Like that. It's like, well, dog, if you not taking it serious, why do you want other people to give you benefit of the doubt and take it serious for you? I get his point. I don't agree with his point, but I get it. And I think that again, ab. From what I saw and what I know about the situation, maybe it's some more information come out later. But the information that I've seen in her, I think he's gonna be fine. But to Ice's point, if you sitting around making jokes about an illness, right? And then every time something happens with that particular illness, a lot of times people may be sick, but they'll run to the sickness almost as a justification to get away with any and everything that you do.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You get what I'm saying? So I think sometimes some people don't necessarily have the most empathy for those types of situations.

[Ericson]

Hey, Joe, I got a two piece for you too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, we. We in the middle of a broadcast. Public broadcast. Oh, he found a video.

[Joe Button]

Look, I'm sorry, ish, you see, but I found the video of Mark Stray and I just wanted to show it to Mona briefly. Mona, look, he's still acting.

[Ericson]

He's just showing the same video again. No, he's still at it.

[Joe Button]

No, no, the video's long.

[Ericson]

Now you say it's damning.

[Big Mona]

Just stop. Don't say nothing. Let him talk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't get that undiscovered, okay?

[Joe Button]

You're gonna discover what we did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Inadmissible.

[Joe Button]

You're gonna discover what we did.

[Ericson]

My brother and I will be vindicated.

[Big Mona]

It's damning.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Big Mona]

Not to say the least.

[Joe Button]

He thought I ain't keep the.

[Big Mona]

You can see every one of mark teeth. He like this. Like this.

[Parks]

Just pay the fine. It's not.

[Ericson]

It's not a big deal.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's okay. Yo.

[Big Mona]

The fact that he brings us no good bums, Chick Fil a and Dunkin Donuts, it does wipe it out.

[Ericson]

It should be time served, but I'll pay the fine.

[Joe Button]

This one you get.

[Ericson]

Going back to saying people don't take mental illness serious as they interrupted you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I was just saying that I think that people have less empathy sometimes when you keep doing shit and then you can just go back and use your mental illness as a crutch. That's how some people look at it. I don't.

[Joe Button]

Okay. For me personally, I'm just looking at.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It from an objective standpoint. It's not for me.

[Joe Button]

That is totally unacceptable. Right. Especially as a black person who you niggas out there that's listening. Some of y' all have family members, right? Because that's where I'm getting this from. Your sick family member that keep bumping their head or keep falling down the stairs or keep stealing the VCR out the house and selling it or your mother that don't remember none of yalls names. So. Niggas are fucked up out here, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

We just have to acknowledge that more. The fucked up people are gonna do fucked up shit now. Sound like I'm caping for them and I don't want to do. That's not my a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we know what comes.

[Joe Button]

We can't keep making excuses for why. We just don't give a fuck that the mentally ill are mentally ill. I'm not making y' all the face of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it now.

[Joe Button]

You're. I'm just passionate about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The one that keeps stealing shit, right? The one that keeps stealing shit. In your example, if every time he. Yo, come on.

[Parks]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, well, you know, I'm a crackhead. Like, making a joke out of it. It's like, yo, dawg. All right, now, I'm not really. I'm not taking you that serious with your shit.

[Ericson]

Go over there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, See, I am. I look at you the other way. Cause you keep. He playing with me.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I am. Because he know not what he do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He.

[Joe Button]

He's sick. And his. Him making a joke of his own condition. Don't mean that I'mma make a joke.

[Ericson]

Of the crackhead habits.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not making. I'm not saying make the joke of it. I'm just saying that the.

[Joe Button]

But him making a joke of it don't lessen the importance of it. For. For me, some people, this is when you get your family together and have that intervention that y' all have at Uncle Willie's and Uncle Willie's apartment or wherever y' all meet up. Hey, y'. All. You see what's going on? Hey, you. They married. Sometimes the partner is taking advantage of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

This gets deep. I don't come in here and talk about. But it gets real deep. So we just can't keep. We can't keep is up. Ain't got the health care to take their medicine.

[Big Mona]

Right. That's it.

[Joe Button]

Is expensive. Can't afford to die outside.

[Big Mona]

Cool.

[Joe Button]

Can't afford to drop dead. They can't afford to make sure some of them that they make making rash decisions.

[Ericson]

And who gonna love them?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And we not talking it's levels, Joe.

[Big Mona]

It is because this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, guess what? Kanye, Antonio Brown, they can afford the medication. They can afford somebody.

[Joe Button]

I can't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Telling you. You just said some people can't do that. No, no, no. I'm responding to you. You said some people can't afford these things. And some people can afford these things. Whether they do or not. I'm not. I'm not speaking into the why.

[Joe Button]

I believe Antonio Brown to be in more debt than some of my cousins.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's possible. It is possible. It's possible.

[Joe Button]

We just said we don't think Kanye is doing the greatest. We could be wrong. We assuming here, of course, but we don't know these things. None of that is enough for me to overlook. When I. When somebody has shown enough signs to say, okay, that brother's in pain and he's helped, that's it. I don't want to. It's not a debate for me. It's how I live. It's how I live.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't help somebody that don't wanna help theyself.

[Big Mona]

This is the thing. You know what I think it is for the most part, I think it's less. I'm sure people don't care, but I think it's less that people don't care. And it's more. It's. People are ignorant. People do not know. He just like when he. When park says, oh, I have. And it's not the first time I heard park say that. Where. And I even think I remember the person in your life that you said that you dealt with that from. So it's like when you experience that, you know, one of the people that raised me was a severe, I mean, severely depressed my whole life. That's what I grew up with to do. House dark, room door closed. We not. This motherfucker ain't talking to me. This person's supposed to be raising me. Right. But I think it's as simple as people don't know. Just like earlier when we talked about when ish brong up the fact that like deep down you might feel that way. Some people might not know that a motherfucker would create a character. Whether they just like you said, like parenting somebody or not and be a whole nother person to the point where they won't even have a memory of what they did. People are ignorant to it. They don't understand it. That's why. That's really what the issue is down to. And it trickles down all type of systems because if you have an emergency with your family member and your, your family member is having a mental health emergency, you don't call a mental health clinic or somebody to come get them. Crisis center people don't. They don't have that. They don't have that kind of funding. The police handle that. Sometimes the police get there and shoot your bipolar cousin or your manic mom, right? They got rid of all those mental health facilities in the 70s, all that funding left. And the police deal with that. Part of the reason why the police suck. Cause they forced to deal with motherfuckers. They don't know how to help, right? So I just think if people wait.

[Joe Button]

And that happened in New York too, where some of the places that held the mentally ill are no longer shut down.

[Big Mona]

That's everywhere, Joe. That's everywhere, Joe. That's everywhere. So at the end of the day, I feel like sometimes you don't experience things and you don't have to go read up on why the fuck your uncle is trying to bite his ear off until it's your uncle trying to bite his ear off. And you just don't have that knowledge. So you will have a different opinion about it. But I don't think it's just people don't care. I just think it's ignorance for the most part. You just don't know.

[Parks]

Agree.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Ericson]

Well, onto another football player that we're going to have to talk about, unfortunately, is a tragedy. And I think we all Agree with that. With that point, Dallas Cowboys announced yesterday that Marshawn Neal in their defensive end, passed away. That was the initial news that we got, that he passed away suddenly and tragically. A little bit later, TMZ released more information, letting us know the details of it. There was a police pursuit after he was stopped for traffic violation. We got more details. He ultimately sent a goodbye text to his family. We got more information that he'd been dealing with or struggling with some mental health issues for a long time. And ultimately, what we came to understand was that he. That he committed suicide. He was a young player. He just scored his first NFL touchdown.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Sunday.

[Parks]

No. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So last week. Yeah.

[Ericson]

Yeah. And then he dies a few days later right near the team's practice facility. This is a tragedy by any stretch. I don't want to overanalyze it. It's just a life that was lost. We've been talking about mental illness. We've been talking about mental health issues. This is an example of what happens when we don't tend to these things enough. I'm not saying he didn't tend to it enough. I mean, as a society, we haven't tended to it enough. So I'm just going to. I'm not going to go long. But he was known as a gentle giant. He was known as someone with a kind heart. He was known, obviously, as a phenomenal football player. And I'm just sending peace and grace to his family.

[Joe Button]

I got some words here from his teammate, Solomon Thomas. Silence, said, brother Marshawn, I love you. I wish you knew it was going to be okay. I wish you knew the pain wouldn't last and how loved you are. I wish you knew how bad we wanted you to stay. My heart breaks for you and your loved ones. We will lift your spirit up every day. To anyone struggling, please hold on to the light. Please know there's always help and hope. Whatever storm you're going through, it's okay to feel that pain me. It's okay not to be okay. But the light will come again. Please reach out to 988 if you need help or text 741-741. Truly a devastating day. I don't know if those help numbers are nationwide, but those are words from his teammate. Really sad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was a sad one.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that was really sad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said Dakota, too. They said all season. I don't know how true it is, but they took pictures and said that Dak has been wearing on his wristbands, asked for help. I don't know if it's true or not all season long, supposedly on his wristbands or some like that. But I just think it's open for all of us, especially as black men. I've been getting a bunch of in my algorithms lately just talking about how black men can't go home to their wives and talk to their wives because we bear on the brunt of the load. And all it's going to do is stress your wife out and all that shit. Like supposedly, you know, it's not supposedly, it's a real conversation going on. So I think even our platform, sometimes we get a little, little and we make jokes out of some. Some people's situations that are really, really, really serious. We did that last week when somebody hit me about John Tay Murray and I wanted to revisit that and say that he's been going through mad mental shit. And we made light of that situation last week, week with his baby moms too. And from what I hear and from what people told me, it really ain't a situation to be made light of. You know what I'm saying? So we all be going through it and sometimes we don't know.

[Ericson]

Well, you know, we got so much responsibility. I know the default response is going to be brothers go to therapy and we should. But it's also about understanding that mental illness, to your point, is layered and it's complex. You've been talking about it all episode. Sometimes the medicine isn't enough, sometimes therapy's not enough. There's just a lot of things that play into this. There's environmental factors, ecological factors. So we have to think about how to tend to each other one on one. But also as a society, how we can create mechanisms. So that to Mona's point earlier, when somebody's having an episode, there's somebody we can call other than the police. You know, there's just so many structures that we gotta think about. But. But all that to say rest in peace to this brother and I'm sending comfort and love to his everyone who loved him.

[Joe Button]

Definitely, definitely.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

While we on rest in peace is also wanna say rest in peace to young bleed. He performed at the verses. He's the one. How you do that?

[Joe Button]

How you do that then?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right after the verses, they were at an after party. He suffered a brain aneurysm and was on life support and passed away. His son had announced that he passed away. So just wanna send the rest in peace out to them.

[Parks]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely.

[Ericson]

Joe, can you give us a yeah, yeah, please.

[Parks]

We need a little mo.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah, sad times, man.

[Joe Button]

Real is, tell your family. Don't text you about nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said my family. You talking about that.

[Ericson]

You got the text about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stuff Now. That wasn't nobody in my family that was like a fan. They was like, yo, y', all, y' all missed that one. Missed that one.

[Joe Button]

Tell the fan keep my name out his mouth before I do something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tell your friends and fans to keep my name out their mouth.

[Joe Button]

No, those be your friends.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They not my friends.

[Joe Button]

Those are your friends that talk to me about you stealing the candy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about the people you consult with every week.

[Joe Button]

Oh, sorry. I'm not doing this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all right, though.

[Big Mona]

Drifting on a memory Ain't no place I ever live with you yeah Loving you well, well, well Lose your button Day will make a way tonight.

[Joe Button]

All we'll need is camera. All right, Mike Shake. Mike Shake.

[Ericson]

Mike shake that wing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop.

[Ericson]

Is that Wingstop Tray?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Do me a favor. Take one of them two bags and put it in the back behind the potato.

[Joe Button]

All right, man. Shout out to those of y' all just now joining us. Hey, yeah. I mean, we for the lovers today. We for the lovers today, man.

[Ericson]

Yo, that is one of them songs that's just perfect. It is in time.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. For anything.

[Ericson]

Yeah. They made me think about 9th wonder the other day. He was on Twitter and he declared, shout out to Knife Wonder. Shout out to Knife that the greatest rap song of all time is Pete Rock CL Smooth. They reminisce over you.

[Parks]

Not mad at that.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at that. Pick.

[Ericson]

He said, like, argue amongst you. Like, like he was anticipating the argument.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

And I was like, it would. It would not have been my choice, but it's not. Not my choice. Like, I don't know. I would have probably said. I might have said Juicy. There's about three that are in the mix for me, but that would have.

[Joe Button]

Been one of them that's always in the top three for me. So anybody that has it, number one. I'm not mad at it all.

[Ericson]

I'm not mad at it, but maybe. I mean, it made me wonder. I know we do the best of all time, all the time, but usually it's lit. This I want to know, like, for y', all, I was wondering, like, what is, like, the best rap song of all time for you all?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The message.

[Parks]

Nothing bad.

[Ericson]

You said the message.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Not bad at that. For me, it's Troy. Juicy would be my 1 and 2.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Let's see.

[Ericson]

I. I'm assuming one of them is from doggy style.

[Joe Button]

Close.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nothing but a G thing.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I knew okay yeah that's up there.

[Ericson]

Yeah Again no wrong answers. I'm just curious Mona.

[Big Mona]

I. I would have to think about.

[Ericson]

It what we do like the fact.

[Joe Button]

What we do is.

[Parks]

That's not. That's not bad. That's not a bad entry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not a bad bro.

[Big Mona]

I had to think might be something.

[Ericson]

From Dutch and spades.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all can't with the figure.

[Big Mona]

It's definitely not the figures. Please. But it is probably some state property though but it's Cassidy first we do though but it is some state property.

[Joe Button]

Me and you it don't get no better me can do it don't get no better Ah right no no I got my drink get my two step my drink get my two step got my I'm joking That's my song that's.

[Ericson]

The shout out to Cassidy drinking my.

[Joe Button]

Two step is my so.

[Big Mona]

Not Cass.

[Joe Button]

Pump it up for me it's spicy. I mean. I mean all respectable answers that y' all all games sure bump it up for me. And then I wanted to ask y' all what y' all think is the best beat ever made.

[Parks]

Shook was.

[Joe Button]

I agree What'd you say Shook was Shook one's part two.

[Parks]

Troy is also up there though and.

[Joe Button]

Troy is in the. Troy is in the top three for that too.

[Parks]

Cream is crazy.

[Joe Button]

Oh Cream is top five. We such boom B heads right. But those best beat best beat not your favorite beat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. I know hip hop beat of all 900 numbers 900 numbers up there.

[Parks]

It would be hard not to put the message in there. Not for nothing that has been reused a bazillion times.

[Joe Button]

All good answers.

[Ericson]

You know ones for sure. Yeah it might be I want to slide Payton full in there but I no no I'm going with I'm going. I'm going with I'm going with Troy.

[Parks]

And Shook one international players anthem is somewhere in either best song or best beat conversation.

[Ericson]

Yeah that's my best song conversation more than my best beat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a lot of hip hop beats.

[Ericson]

Because I want some boom bap Put.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Your hands on my eyes could see the Benjamin's beat would used to stop traffic yeah you could be in the club and just tease the Benjamin's beat and will lose their minds oh that's a good one. Yeah it's a bunch Benjamin's a good.

[Joe Button]

Real good It's a lot I know y' all gonna if y' all killed me for my Ready to die. Sounds dated. So y' all would kill me for what I think about Benjamin's now.

[Ericson]

No, please say it.

[Joe Button]

What.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What do you think about.

[Joe Button]

It's getting dated. It's getting dated.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which part?

[Joe Button]

The beat. I'm not talking about the song. Oh, the beat.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, because the Benjamins. I agree. I'm from the era, so that was always bruh. The best or one of the best of all time. Anything you was talking about today, when I cut it on or when it comes on, I don't feel the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't feel.

[Joe Button]

I don't feel the same as.

[Ericson]

Oh, that's interesting. Like, when you hear like cream or like shook ones, you're still getting the same feeling.

[Parks]

New York State of Mind.

[Ericson]

Is another.

[Parks]

Boy, that's. That beat is ridiculous.

[Joe Button]

I know we tied a list here, but Pitchfork put out the best hundred rap hip hop albums of all time.

[Ericson]

I'm always down for that conversation.

[Joe Button]

So which part do y' all want to hear?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

100 to 90. And then maybe 20 to 1 is all I need.

[Ericson]

I could just do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or 10 to 1.

[Ericson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

80 to 70, I think might be important too. So I'll give you 100 to 90.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I need to hear what you can fly through the list. It's only 100.

[Parks]

You could.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Parks]

No, we're not doing.

[Joe Button]

We're not going through the whole list. All right, let's see. Let's see how far we get. 100 clips, Lord willing.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

99. Rodeo. 98. Death certificate. If y' all need. Who made these albums, I'll tell you. But y' all.

[Ericson]

Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

98. That's disrespectful.

[Joe Button]

97. Long live ASAP. 96.

[Ericson]

Like, that's a no, but I can't.

[Parks]

Say I love that. Elevation window top hundred, but.

[Joe Button]

96. M I A Calla no. That's the artist. That's the album. 95. Playboi Carti Whole lot of read. 94. Oh, whole lot of red. I'm sorry. 94. Death Grips, Ex Military 95. Billy Woods, Aethiopes 92. Ice Cube, America's Most Wanted. 91.

[Ericson]

Ice Cube is too low on this.

[Joe Button]

Tyler the Creator. Call me if you get lost. 90. Digable planets reaching. Reaching. A new refug of time and space.

[Ericson]

That's too low too.

[Joe Button]

89. License to kill beasty Boys. I'll just go through the notable ones. 87. Young Thug Barter 6 86. Kanye West 808 and Heartbreaks. 84. Ghost Face Fish Scale 83. Chance, Acid Rap 82. Vince Staples, Summertime 0680 UGK Riding Dirty Let me get to where I thought we would want to.

[Parks]

There's a whole bunch.

[Joe Button]

All right, here we go. Here we go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tripping already.

[Joe Button]

Here we go. 76. No, 77 is clips. Let God sort them out. 76. Diggable planets, blowout comb 70.

[Ericson]

Been better reputation.

[Joe Button]

Yes. 75. Missy Elliott, super duper fly that seems low. 74. Danny Brown XXX I love Danny Brown.

[Big Mona]

But I like Danny Brown.

[Joe Button]

72. Common B. Whoa, that should be way higher. 71. A Tribe Called Quest. We got it from here. Thank you for your service.

[Parks]

That should not be on that list. That should not be on this list. Respectfully, I love Tribe Called Quest.

[Ericson]

That's a great album, but it's not one of 75.

[Joe Button]

69. De La Soul balloon, mind state.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

68. Drake, take care 67. No. Dre 2001. Whoa. No. 66. Gangstar, moment of truth. Whoa. 65. Eminem, the Eminem Show. Okay, now. Oh, now this is what I wanted to do.

[Ericson]

I don't like that album.

[Joe Button]

63 to 50. And then I'll give you all the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Top 10 I need. Top 20.

[Joe Button]

Now you got it. Beastie Boys. Check your head at 63.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Future DS2 at 62. No, 61 is Pusha T. Daytona. This is where we're just getting crazy, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is nuts.

[Joe Button]

60 is the Notorious B.I.G. life after death.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Get the out of here. No.

[Joe Button]

59. And 59 is 50 Cent. Get rich or Die Trying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, all right.

[Parks]

You can pump this out the window. Anchorman with the dog.

[Joe Button]

58 is tribe. People's instinctive travels in the past. The rhythm. 57 is outcast. Speaker Box To Love the Love that I'm not mad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want to see where they got something else in relation to the other.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. 56. Kendrick, Mr. Morale, the big stepper that shouldn't be that should know shit. Power boy. 54. Lil Wayne, the Carter 3 is 52.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no.

[Joe Button]

Beastie Boys Ill Communication piss me off with the.

[Ericson]

They even got the Beastie Boys albums.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The album strong in order.

[Ericson]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because that license to ill should be way Jay Z.

[Joe Button]

Black album at 45. Fuji's the score is at 46.

[Ericson]

Okay, I can live with both of those.

[Joe Button]

Kanye Life of Pablo's at 49. Eric being Rakim. Payton Full is 39. Tyler Igor is 40. Kanye Graduation is 41. No Run the Jewels 2 is 42. Mad Lib Pinata. 43. The Roots, Things Fall Apart 44.

[Parks]

They bug.

[Joe Button]

All right, I'm going to the top 10 for y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Parks]

Yeah, please. I mean, you could get this whole list of.

[Joe Button]

Oh, 22 is rake. One. Only built for Cuban Lane.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Give me 20, Joe. 20.

[Joe Button]

The infamous is 21.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mob D. Too high.

[Joe Button]

$20 dropout. Kanye West.

[Ericson]

I could live with that.

[Joe Button]

19. The blueprint. 18. Yeezus. What? What? 17.

[Ericson]

Wait a minute. They got Yeezus above the blueprint?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They got Yeezus above giving.

[Joe Button]

Let's announce College Dropout.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

College dropout was 20.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

This is insane.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Get that the out of here.

[Parks]

Yo, Pitchfork can get the out of here.

[Joe Button]

17. The Chronic.

[Ericson]

17.

[Joe Button]

16. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill.

[Ericson]

15.

[Joe Button]

Beastie Paul's Boutique.

[Parks]

I don't love that album.

[Joe Button]

14. A Tribe. Midnight Marauders.

[Ericson]

I'll take that.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Outcast. 13. Stanconia Huh. 12. Three Feet High and Rising. 11. Liquid Swords.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

10. It Takes a Nation a Million. Okay. 9. Ready to Die. 8. Equimani.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

7. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.

[Ericson]

Not matter of fact. 6.

[Joe Button]

Low End Theory.

[Ericson]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

5. Mad Villainy.

[Parks]

Come on. I love that album. It should be in the top 100.

[Joe Button]

But it should be.

[Parks]

Not top five. That's insane.

[Ericson]

They said only four albums ever before.

[Parks]

Yeah, Good kid.

[Joe Button]

Mad City. Okay.

[Ericson]

I wouldn't have that four. But it should be top 20.

[Joe Button]

Top three To Pimp a Butterfly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Ericson]

Wait a minute. Two of Kendrick's albums are the top four albums ever?

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I feel like they got to the end and realized they forgot a Kendrick album that they wanted to add, so they had to squeeze it in. That's what it sounds. That's what it feels like to enter the Wu Tang 36 chambers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What the fuck is.

[Joe Button]

And to ISIS delight Illmatic Number one, The best album of.

[Ericson]

I think they got perfect.

[Parks]

Yeah, they got that. They nailed that one. I'm not mad at one or two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where was Doggy Style on that list? I'm looking for it right now.

[Ericson]

It had to be a top 20. If doggy style's not top 20, all I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not. All eyes on me is 26. I'm looking for doggy style.

[Ericson]

Pause.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

37.

[Joe Button]

37 for doggy straight out of Compton.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

36. Reasonable doubt is 35.

[Joe Button]

Let's make some noise for the good folks over at Pitchfork.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We did another sound effect.

[Joe Button]

Not that pissing us off.

[Parks]

You got a fart sound effect?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Words.

[Ericson]

For Kendrick. I mean, I like to Pimp a Butterfly. Oh, my God, I was one of the people. I was still doing album reviews back then. I actually gave it too high review for double XL at the time because I. I was like a look at the tragedy business.

[Joe Button]

Venturing out this before.

[Ericson]

I was in the tragedy business because it was at the time where they started sending us albums not with like 60 days notice, but like with like 60 hours notice.

[Joe Button]

And it was like.

[Ericson]

And I was like, oh, I love this album. This is great. This is another 5 mic album. Because for me it was like pimpa butter. I mean, good kid was good kid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Good kid is.

[Ericson]

But they've had years to think, get this thing right now. There's no way you think that only three albums ever are better than to pimp a butterfly. Like that to me is.

[Joe Button]

Is.

[Ericson]

Is absolutely crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But yo, it was written wasn't on there. I just don't know what number it was.

[Parks]

But it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It probably had to be.

[Joe Button]

I hope so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Death certificate at number 98.

[Ericson]

People really underestimate how important Ice Cube.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ice Cube was and how good it.

[Big Mona]

Would be no Beanie Seagull if it was a vice cube.

[Ericson]

That's a fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They need to start posting the picture of the people who are on the board.

[Joe Button]

They don't make, you know, you know.

[Parks]

What they look like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we need to see that though. I need to see that because then I say, I get this also felt.

[Ericson]

Like a generational tug of war where maybe like 20 people voted. And so because it seems too sporadic, like the way like there's a bunch of new stuff, then it's this middle with like a bunch of old.

[Parks]

Oh, I want to be. This is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think.

[Parks]

According to Pitchfork readers, this was from a poll. So that's why there's a whole bunch of.

[Ericson]

That makes more sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There we go.

[Ericson]

And that's why two Kendrick albums are the top four, I bet. Which is insane.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's great.

[Joe Button]

Now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now that makes all the sense.

[Big Mona]

That's just lazy.

[Parks]

Extremely lazy again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz a lot of the who really know they not on the Internet taking polls.

[Parks]

Although to be fair, a month ago they. Or this is September 30th of this year. The 100 Best Rap Albums of all time. And I'm. I'm just starting the list at 100. And it's doggy style. So I know this list is about to be some ass too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I know. No, it's different. I say what's. What's one on that list?

[Parks]

Me scroll all the way down through all this slick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not on this list.

[Parks]

Infamous one, number one. Number two is all eyes on me. Number three is 400 degrees.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not mad. Not three.

[Joe Button]

Number four.

[Parks]

Supreme client, where that was. Let's go, Ghost.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

400 degrees should be on the list.

[Parks]

Illmatic is five.

[Ericson]

Just not number three. No, not three.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Button]

Three.

[Parks]

Number six. Any guesses? You're not gonna guess.

[Ericson]

It's gonna be something ridiculous.

[Parks]

Rich gang, the tour, part one.

[Ericson]

I'm done.

[Parks]

So somehow their list is actually maybe worse than the reader.

[Joe Button]

Holy.

[Ericson]

Enough about old music. Any new music that y'. All, that y' all feeling. I want to. I want to first shout out De La Soul.

[Parks]

That daylight record is.

[Ericson]

They got a new record. That new album is Cabin in the sky. Comes out November 21st. But the new single they put out is called the Package. I love it. I love to be. I love the production.

[Parks]

It's. It's Pete Rock, I believe, produced. We'll give a little bit here.

[Joe Button]

Okay, cameras ready?

[Ericson]

Everybody getting their lines?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's get this thing started, people. Come on, come on.

[Ericson]

You got your lines. You know the direction.

[Joe Button]

Roll cameras, everybody. Roll cameras. Let's make this a good one. Premium soul on the rocks. The package of revival and conscious survival. The content is beyond bliss and I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Used scar tissue or white tears hiding.

[Joe Button]

Amongst the blood and sweat and don't forget the game did a face, ya and some want to take it back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To when a B boy first became.

[Joe Button]

A C note chaser Nah, we staying right here. Talk less, listen more. That's the saying right here. Those who want to try us play it right here.

[Ericson]

Stop to us with a Goliath Got.

[Joe Button]

A David right here. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Recognize the savior, the king Send the.

[Joe Button]

String, the whack, the celebrators that's the package.

[Parks]

De La Soul. I love it. It's another mass appeal release. Surprise, surprise. They're killing it this year.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

No question, no question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They are killing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I can't wait for this. I can't wait for this.

[Ericson]

I'm excited about this, let me tell y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And since we all knew music now, they always say, be careful what you wish for. Yeah, something's playing. So during that whole, you know, when Cardi's album dropped and then the. The girl started putting disc records out and all of this. And I really wasn't too entertained through all of that.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, damn, yo. I know I killed her before, but this being so ass makes me miss Sexy Red.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then she put a new record.

[Parks]

Out today, and how'd it sound?

[Joe Button]

And.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'VE learned to be careful what you ask for. Like, she has a new song. It's called. I'll give you the name of the.

[Parks]

Record.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For no reason.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's your usual Sexy Red, you know, Ratchet, where the Ratchet girl's at. But in the beginning of the record, she say something. Bend over. I want to see that coochie, even if it's bleeding. I said, okay, that's time to turn this off. That's what I get.

[Parks]

I was gonna try to find it. I've heard enough. Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And I was just like, see, that's.

[Joe Button]

That's why she Justin my sexy rap.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I knew y' all was gonna do that.

[Parks]

Yeah, I saw the sexy Red. It's a natural progression.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was saying, you know, just be.

[Joe Button]

Careful what you wish for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because I was like, you know what? I didn't like where rap was for a few seconds. Seconds with the girlies. And I was like, you know what? Bring Sexy Red back. I'd rather that than this. And got some new. Sexy Red didn't like was a pretty slow. I deserved it.

[Joe Button]

I deserved it.

[Parks]

It's a pretty slow. There's a reason. Ep, short album. I'm not sure how he wants to define it. Everything My Soul is Blue, which was pretty dope from a skim. Jim Jones put out the Fall before the Rise, which was also pretty dope.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I listened to that. That was. That was. I like. I like the first half of. I mean, it's short. It's a 7, 8.

[Parks]

It feels like a little pre album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He says it's a little warm up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's fall time. But the first maybe four or five. I like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

G. Herbo put his album out called Lil Herb. And again. I'm gonna say it again. My biggest knock against him is when he raps like he's running from the beat. The first half of this, he kind of slowed it down and flowed a lot better.

[Parks]

Caught up to the beat.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Big Mona]

But that's his whole thing, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. But he wasn't always on it like. Like that. Back when he was calling himself Little Herb, he wasn't doing that. I don't know what happened. He got to a point where it's like, I hear the beat. It's almost like a modern day Silk the shocker to me.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Even though I like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But, but, but it. But it's like he be so aggressively.

[Big Mona]

Running, sound like he wants to do it. Yeah. He. He couldn't help but to do that. You Know what I mean?

[Ericson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It sound like this is a choice. He'd still be saying some. It's just like. Just slow it down.

[Joe Button]

But when he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When he catch the beat.

[Joe Button]

To come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Up here, the first part, I got a halfway listen through. And I like when he get into that, you know, pain introspective bag and just slow it down a little bit. And he did on this. So at least the first half is great.

[Ericson]

And for you, Underground Heads, no Name just dropped a new single show.

[Big Mona]

Oh, really?

[Ericson]

I'm coming to album. This is. I like it. It's called 100 acres.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ericson]

Featuring Devin Morrison. She's back in her bag. One of the things she. I talked to her a little bit about it. She was saying that she's trying to. And she's trying to.

[Joe Button]

Of.

[Ericson]

She's still. Obviously she's gonna be super lyrical, but she doesn't. She's trying to move away from the. The spoken word poetry vibe. She's trying to move away from the soul samples and do a little more boom bap. But still super lyrical. So expect her new album, which should be coming out in a couple weeks. Let me not put a date on it. Her album's coming out very soon. But the new Single is called 100 acres, and it's fire.

[Parks]

Okay. I love no names, so I'll check it out.

[Ericson]

I didn't know it dropped.

[Joe Button]

All right. Y' all done with all that underground shit? Yeah.

[Parks]

Come get the kill out of this.

[Joe Button]

I'm done with all this underground. Come on. Actually, that's not. I'm not. I'm not going to. Going straight to K Line.

[Parks]

Oh, my bad. I think I need to typecast you.

[Joe Button]

I think a lot of people needed to get the fuck out the way for this Black Odyssey to dropped.

[Parks]

I'm not hip.

[Joe Button]

Put me off Black. You're not hip. Black Odyssey. Black Odyssey is alternative, but this always slaps. This always slaps. I was very excited. I didn't even know this was dropping. I didn't even know this was dropping. Album is called Mood Control. I mean, what you want? It's track two. Track two, Ricky. Some of these alternative groups, man. I'm trying to tell you. If you don't know about Black Odyssey, you should. If you don't know about Black Odyssey, you should.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying sound like.

[Joe Button]

Right? I know who I think it sound like. Oh, my God. They don't feel me yet. They don't feel me yet.

[Parks]

That's tough.

[Joe Button]

They don't feel me yet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That first was sounding like old House of Balloons for a minute.

[Parks]

House of Balloons.

[Joe Button]

Travis Weekend. Travis. Yeah, but they do this. Listen up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wasting all your time you know it's.

[Joe Button]

True but you love it, so I like it too. Bo Maybe I just took my time.

[Big Mona]

With you.

[Joe Button]

Down.

[Big Mona]

Send me on the.

[Joe Button]

Way Send me to the frequency they don't feel me yet. Hold up, God damn it. Hold up, God damn it.

[Parks]

This is tough.

[Joe Button]

They not feeling me yet. Wait a minute.

[Big Mona]

Do you get high?

[Joe Button]

Hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Never mind.

[Ericson]

Baby, take a seat.

[Joe Button]

You a little feet?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm a whole.

[Parks]

That's hard.

[Ericson]

It was hard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That sound all right.

[Joe Button]

Listen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That sound all right?

[Joe Button]

It's quick. It's 10 joints. It's 28 minutes. They all about between two and three minutes. If you into alternative music, Black Odyssey, you should know about Jungle. You should know about. There's a few of them that still. You know what I mean, Playing that shit. Mario put out a record called Home. Like the. Here it here. Go home. Get in your bag. Yeah, talk to him there. Mario, friend of the show. What we be wanting them to come home. Come on now.

[Big Mona]

When I'm home or I'm out on.

[Joe Button]

The road Stand on business.

[Big Mona]

But you sh.

[Joe Button]

It don't matter how many girls around me in this party I only see.

[Big Mona]

You we know they love me.

[Joe Button]

But I let them know I love you more Body, body hey.

[Big Mona]

But I don't let them get too close.

[Joe Button]

Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[Big Mona]

So, baby, don't let's.

[Joe Button]

Brand new Mario, that record is called Home. Available in your phone and on dsps right this second. All right, Mario. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. You slow down for a minute. Big Jersey. Big Jersey. The artist I need you like to hear it. Here we go. Oh, this is heat. This is heat. Let's go home.

[Big Mona]

Know I like it when you pissed off.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. See two, two got games for you.

[Big Mona]

To play Nice camera action. Baby, please don't wait See, I've been trying to take you down anyway for my baby I put up a chase Up a chase Been here before.

[Joe Button]

This is crazy. This is crazy.

[Parks]

That's tough.

[Ericson]

That's tough. I like that.

[Joe Button]

Last but certainly not least, we got the queen herself with her second single. Should. Should be coming home with a Grammy soon. Yeah, first time in the top 10. On the top 40, in the top 100. Kehlani out the window. Brand new.

[Parks]

This is tough.

[Joe Button]

Like to hear it. Here we go. Why not? Man, she folded the clothes. What you thought she was about to go watch Netflix? What you thought happened. You thought she was happy folding her clothes. Your woman was using that as like some type of woman empowerment song. She was sad the left. She had feelings behind the leaving. She couldn't wait to find a window.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And she hid a couple garments.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. She didn't give him everything.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She told him to come get them. She wanted them to come to the bid.

[Joe Button]

And she left the duo. And she left the duo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hide the door.

[Joe Button]

She loved him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come in, right?

[Joe Button]

Man. She happened to be by that window on a rainy day. She start gazing out at the moon in the sky.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just going to take your clothes and leave?

[Joe Button]

You don't want to talk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

About me.

[Joe Button]

She still got his pictures up in the house. She ain't take him down. Listen. Let's go, Kaylani. You get the vibe, man.

[Ericson]

I feel that.

[Joe Button]

A lot of real good music out there. That's my favorite thing about waking up at 2:30 in the morning. Just checking what's going on. Right? To the music, man. That's it. Shout out to everybody blessed enough to put new music out. A lot of it is heat. Yeah, for sure. And that's it, man. That's what I got for y'. All. That's what I got for y' all in new music. Let me just make sure I ain't got no other heat up in this. Let me keep him some heat. Let me see. All right, that's it.

[Ericson]

You just gonna ignore Young Jack.

[Parks]

Alchemist dropped the album today. I don't know.

[Ericson]

I don't know what Alchemist is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Big Mona]

Yes.

[Parks]

With arm and hammer. Alchemist. A very underground kind of free.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm just saying, like I don't.

[Parks]

Know how he sleeps.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

[Ericson]

Facts.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Anyway, Young Jock.

[Joe Button]

Jock.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is Jock back outside?

[Ericson]

Him and him and Joe.

[Joe Button]

You. You.

[Ericson]

You're better equipped to discuss this.

[Joe Button]

Something that is good for the music industry. We've been talking about AI for the last few pods now.

[Ericson]

Jock found some artists feel about the shift.

[Joe Button]

We caught up with Atlanta rapper Young Jock at his streets Morning Takeover Radio. Look, they caught up with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He doesn't pull out a pen and.

[Joe Button]

Pad and do all the calculations with a pencil. A lot of stuff he gonna type.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In in the computer.

[Joe Button]

And the computer's going to tell him what he. He needs to do. Young Johnson. Did y' all hear that?

[Parks]

He just said yes.

[Joe Button]

He continues. Listen to him. To the backlash over autotune until T Pain made it mainstream. Look what he's comparing it to. How fast AI can craft a custom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Write me 8 bars about her right now in the way. You know I like bars written.

[Joe Button]

All right, here we go. She a Jersey gym, not a. So stage eyes that could light up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Any hairline page page From LA streets to ATL skies and that black dress.

[Joe Button]

She got the city feeling alive 11.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Alive queen with them shell toe lines Black stripes, white kicks making news look fine she's got that anchor vibe, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Charisma on lock and check pack dropping bars.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you know it's Young Jock. Oh, my God.

[Big Mona]

That is ass. Big name.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna spend a whole lot of time on this. Y' all wanted AI now. You got a new Young Jock album now. And he's wacker than before.

[Parks]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

Yo. Young Jock is my man.

[Ericson]

I love Young Jock. Shout out to joc.

[Joe Button]

What this helped me realize is not that fucking rap or hip hop is dead. With all these tools coming in. Emceeing is dead. Yeah. The emcee is dead. The MC could never say, hey, Chatgpt, write me a 8 bar of fire. Hear it and use it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the MC could say, hey, Parks, write me 8 bars of fire and use it. They just replacing the. That's writing. The have been getting their bars written from somewhere else for a long time, but that's what that had double and triple entendres that put some thought into their lyrics. And then I might quote them shits. That right there is.

[Parks]

Yeah. I don't want to sit here and act like hip hop is dead because Young Jock is using it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think hip hop is dead at all.

[Big Mona]

We're cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was trying to find some shit that Jermaine Dupree has said about AI, and it was kind of deep. I just can't find it in my phone, but I saved it.

[Joe Button]

We got it, man. He said something about Milli Vanilla. We got it.

[Parks]

Yeah, he did.

[Joe Button]

We got it. Big dog. Don't worry. The Android for nothing. The smartest phone on earth. You give them some niggas, AI. They can't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I save a money lot of.

[Joe Button]

Of information, bro. It's cool, though.

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Ericson]

Listen.

[Joe Button]

What was we just now saying? Oh, all right. Young out. Oh, yeah. I. I just think that there's. We just extinct, man. The. That actually care because the. That's dope.

[Parks]

Not gonna say that when we just read off them Grammy nominations this year and we got clips and. And GNX and Tyler and Jid. But in the album of the year, cut it. Not even hip hop like they boys. The big boys voice.

[Joe Button]

Well, it's somebody's job to find the people that care and. And highlight it if they want to be, you know, a credible source of this. So great that some of us are left. I just think we. We. The farm system is suffering.

[Parks]

I agree with that.

[Joe Button]

The. The farm system is suffering.

[Parks]

I think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think this. This also affects the business of music. I don't think actual talent gets affected because like, a. That could write. Can write.

[Joe Button]

And can write better than.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, but if you. But if the.

[Joe Button]

But if that sound like Curtis Blow was the chat. GPT instructions. She was coming down the street. She had those jeans. I swear she was the flyest thing I'd ever seen. You know my name, Jack. And you know how I write. Like, wait, you go, hey, Jack, you gonna put this out? You heard that? It was like. Let me put a beat under that, huh? Anyway, I'm not gonna AI us to death every episode. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. Congrats to young jock. That's my loving hip hop alumni brother. And we'll see. We'll always have mitos in the gloves going down.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

And Tom Cruise doing the motorcycle on Oprah's couch. God damn it. And running in the Magic Johnson Theater. That was mission impossible. One of the recent ads.

[Ericson]

Anyway, since we're giving out congrats, and I don't wanna get too serious, but can we give out congrats to Zohran Mamdani?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ericson]

For winning the mayoralty of New York City.

[Parks]

That was amazing.

[Ericson]

He was the mayor elect of New York. Big, solid victory.

[Parks]

You said it.

[Ericson]

You said it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You said it.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I've been saying it for six months, man. It's no surprises. But to actually watch it. I was covering it and watching the returns come in. There were other great races, too, that we don't have to talk about as much. But the Virginia race was won by Democratic governor, which was a big deal. The black woman lieutenant governor did not win. We saw New Jersey. Mikey, Cheryl. Cheryl.

[Joe Button]

Mikey, Sheryl.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Detroit got their first woman. And Mickey Sherrell.

[Ericson]

Yes. Both of them won. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Detroit.

[Ericson]

Albany in Detroit. Yes, Detroit.

[Big Mona]

First woman In, I think, 234 years.

[Ericson]

Yeah, first woman. And for. And a black woman at that.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Ericson]

Major, major, major wins. We'll see what they do politically. Mom, Darby's speech was incredible, but that Mudani speech wasn't. Everybody liked it except Van Jones. He was the only person who tore it down.

[Parks]

But that first stanza with the hands. The hands.

[Ericson]

First of all, he came out to New York. He Came out to Ja Rule.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right.

[Big Mona]

Which people took that as a 50 disc, which makes no sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It makes sense.

[Joe Button]

It made all sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Make a lot of sense.

[Ericson]

Tell me, please tell him 50 been trolling him. Trolling him, saying, like, we'll move out. I'll pay his salary for him not to run all this other. Now, I don't know if. If it was a 50 disc, but it's not a stretch, and my body's brain works that way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or maybe the person that suggested him that record was aware of what was going on. And, like, you know what? Yo, dogs use this. It's New York, and it will.

[Parks]

My dummy used to rap.

[Joe Button]

He probably used to rap.

[Ericson]

Dummy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Ericson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm sorry.

[Ericson]

I'm looking the wrong way.

[Joe Button]

And I don't know if 50 lives in New York.

[Ericson]

I doubt that he does.

[Joe Button]

Like, that's my thing about these things. Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's funny seeing a lot of the commentators that don't live to New York and never will and are not coming here. I'm never coming back to New York. You don't. You weren't.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, I thought he had announced that he was going, that he went to Texas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's in Shreveport now. When he's down there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. I think when come. I think he had left. I think when come to New York, they be coming, like, to visit.

[Ericson]

Yeah, yeah. You know, they definitely don't register to vote here. And then I like, primarily here. But he made, again, a great speech. First of all, he won with a mandate. He got more than 50% of the vote, which I think was important. Plurality is good enough. But you want to say you get the majority to vote because you don't want for the next four years, people be like, most New Yorkers don't want you. Most New Yorkers don't want these policies. So he got over 50% of the vote. Cuomo came up stronger than I expected.

[Joe Button]

Ooh.

[Ericson]

50% came in. 50. Cent came 50. I'm sorry, I'm scrambled, because Keno just came in with more time.

[Joe Button]

But Keno's bringing food in.

[Ericson]

Keno came in.

[Joe Button]

Don't get any ideas.

[Ericson]

I got plenty of ideas.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, your wife can go to Salvation Army. I'm joking.

[Ericson]

I got distracted. But, yes, he got more than 50% of the vote. Andrew Cuomo, though, did come in in the 40s, which was important. Curtis Levo got less than I thought, but still placed, you know, But. But together, Cuomo and Sleever still don't equal Mondani's vote. So it didn't matter.

[Joe Button]

Over a million voters. Ain't to be. Ain't to be unnoticed.

[Ericson]

That is not to be unnoticed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then I thought it was two.

[Ericson]

No, no, I think he got one too many people voted.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Record turnout in. In New York with regards to the. The number of voters.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. To have over a million people come out and. And vote for you is no small feat. I mean, I told Mark off offline with some of my issues are. I don't know if I'm bold enough to say it on. On. On air, actually, I will. I don't like Mom. Donnie's graphic designer. O like, now that he won and, you know, we seeing his shit on the trains and on the news, they put in his slogan a new way for New York or the new. You know, whatever it is. But his graphic design and some of the font they using, it make it seem like some of the shit his opposition was saying. We just gotta hit Instagram. We gotta find.

[Ericson]

Say, bro. Just Helvetica, my brother. Just Helvetica.

[Joe Button]

That's what I understand. Y' all see. Do y' all see his font? I'm the only one, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did not. I'm the only one, but I know I could just. By what you said I could. I have a good advantage.

[Joe Button]

If you happen to bump into a commercial where it says the new mayor, New way, New New York, and you see the font, the font looks a little opposite. It does. Sorry, sorry.

[Ericson]

No, no, it's all good. But. But m. Donnie came here.

[Joe Button]

You agree with me.

[Ericson]

I agree with you on air. I agree on air.

[Joe Button]

I ain't scared. Yeah. Over here. Is my brother in support?

[Ericson]

No, but he came out like. Like you said, Parson. He gave an amazing speech to me from top to bottom. I could not have imagined a better speech.

[Parks]

That was the most impressive Democratic speech I've heard since Barack Obama.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I think so too.

[Parks]

And it's not close.

[Joe Button]

I agree. I wonder what Van Jones thought was divisive about it.

[Ericson]

This is what he said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said it.

[Ericson]

He said Mamdani's speech on the camp speeches on the campaign trail were inclusive and warm and inviting and brought everyone together. And he said this one felt it was like, sharper in tone. It was not darker, but it was more. It was basically, I won. This is my shit. And it excluded the people who didn't agree with him. He said it felt like. He felt more. Not arrogant, but basically like, I won. Now what? You know what I mean? That's the tone he said he got. He Said it's gonna not do him any favors in bringing everybody together. I think that that's a bizarre read.

[Joe Button]

What has happened to Van Jones outside of him taking all the money?

[Ericson]

I can't figure it out, you know, and this isn't a cheap plug, but I wrote, made a piece called Fuck Van Jones about a month ago. And the reason was because I know he knows better. There are people in the world who I disagree with, and I'm okay with us disagreeing. Everybody up here disagrees with different things with each other, but Van knows better. I watched Van. I've known Van for a long time. Even before I knew him, I watched him. As you know, back when he would be in front of leading protest rallies, he'd be standing out there with the locks talking about free Palestine. Now he's doing the opposite. He's out there saying, fuck Trump. Now he's like, Trump, for the first time became president. I'm watching him be the opposite of who he wants to be. And I don't want. I don't.

[Joe Button]

Of immigrants.

[Ericson]

I don't like to call people sellouts. Right. Because I think that's too easy. I think whenever people disagree with us, it doesn't mean they sold out. Sometimes they just have a different opinion. But I'm struggling to understand how somebody who knows as much as he does and has taken the positions that he's taken is suddenly taken the opposite position with no. With no reason.

[Joe Button]

Repeatedly.

[Ericson]

Yeah, repeatedly. Repeatedly, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Could it be a different level of access?

[Ericson]

Oh, I think that is what it is. I think it's access to power and money, not access to information.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm talking about. Yeah.

[Ericson]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like now I'm on another side of the table and I look at the things a little differently and I gotta now sell out. Oh, I understand a little bit more.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I mean, there is a name for it.

[Ericson]

Some of us. I mean, we all put like this. There was a lot of black people working at CNN and a lot of us stood 10 toes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm going.

[Ericson]

Angela's going. Angela Rye's gone. I mean, I can name a list of people that are gone. Simone Sanders is gone, right? Van is still there.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Bitch ass nigga.

[Ericson]

There you go. I be talking too much.

[Big Mona]

Van Jones. Man, fuck Van Jones.

[Joe Button]

There you go. Go. New York will remain a city of immigrants. A city built by immigrants, powered by immigrants, and as of tonight, led by an immigrant, Don DeMarcos. And that ain't even. That ain't the part.

[Big Mona]

You feel me?

[Joe Button]

I'm looking for the part where he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was gonna had anything on top.

[Big Mona]

He had to wear the. But I definitely was waiting to hit him with the little arrow.

[Ericson]

The Punjabi mc. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yo, if Punjabi MC would have came.

[Ericson]

On, I wanted Mac Daddy to come on. Like, that's what I I wanted, but come on. That would have been crazy.

[Parks]

That would have been crazy.

[Joe Button]

Now we got to play some Punjabi in this mc, bro.

[Big Mona]

It don't even fit, bro.

[Joe Button]

It does somehow.

[Ericson]

It always fits.

[Joe Button]

Is this ain't got it. I ain't even got it. He ain't got it. Come on.

[Ericson]

This came over Rock in the building.

[Joe Button]

Put this on right after J R.

[Big Mona]

Well, we could tease this. He in that.

[Ericson]

I gotta echo my. My FBA and ADOs people, though. New York was powered and built by immigrants to some extent, but New York is also just like every place in the United States was fundamentally powered by African slaves. So, you know, we gotta keep that in mind too. So let's be honest about that.

[Big Mona]

There you go.

[Ericson]

America runs on Negroes, period.

[Big Mona]

It's our country. That's just what it is. What the fuck? I let em rock a little bit. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm happy though, for. I'm happy for New York. This a good Drew. I think he's a good.

[Ericson]

Let's see what happens now, though.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, I mean, you know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

Now's the time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How much time you think you got?

[Joe Button]

And we won because we insisted that no longer would politics be something that is done to us. Now it is something that we do. He was talking.

[Parks]

We lost.

[Joe Button]

It's important. I'm play some of it.

[Parks]

I watched this like two, three times. I love this.

[Joe Button]

It was powerful. I think of the words of J. Oh, he on his mark, on his M. A moment comes but.

[Big Mona]

34 when.

[Joe Button]

An age ends and when the soul of a nation, long suppressed finds utterance. Tonight we have stepped out from the old into the new. He do got some of that Barack in him.

[Ericson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

In terms of just being charming and charismatic. Great speaker.

[Ericson]

I left feeling inspired.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I believed in him and his ears.

[Joe Button]

It ain't tough to get you to believe. Just be on the corner. This will be an age where New Yorkers expect from their leaders a bold vision of what we will achieve rather than a list of excuses for what we are too timid to attempt. And I like a New York mayor just being on me too. He with the vicious agenda to tackle the cost of living crisis that this city has seen since the days of. I'm clapping. Take all my Money, I don't care. Go ahead. Long as it gets rid of the potholes, I guess.

[Parks]

Please.

[Joe Button]

It's yours, this city. I'll unplug it in a minute. To you. Thank you. That still ain't so happy.

[Parks]

It was a long speech with a lot of bars.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. It was too, too much. He got his off. Congratulations. A well deserved win. Hard fought. And he beat a lot of people. He did. Yeah. He beat a lot of people that.

[Ericson]

That, Some of them twice.

[Joe Button]

Put that money, put that money in the old boy. It was a lot of them. Bloomberg and Clinton and Target, they were the big boys. Walmart.

[Ericson]

And I want to send a big fuck you to the Democrats in general, but especially on this issue. No, no, no, no, no. They did not support this man. They asked people, who are you voting for? And they're like, I'm a vote. I mean people who are the leaders of the Democratic Party or they waited to the very last minute to support him. There's no way the Democratic nominee should not be supported by people in your district, people in your city, people in your state or the leadership of the party. It was disgraceful how they ran from him. And they're gonna pay the price because they don't wanna be associated. Because there's enough people who are unhappy with his policy that they don't wanna be associated with it. They can't vote against him. So they just tried to say nothing. They asked Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for? She said, well, I don't vote in New York, nigga. You understand the question? Who do you vote for? Hakeem Jeffries took to the last minute to endorse Mamdani and still gave the weakest endorsement you could ever imagine. Chuck Schumer. He said, I'm going to vote. He didn't say who he was gonna vote for. He just said, I'm going to vote. And you could go on down the list of these people. You know, Nancy Pelosi didn't want to say anything, shout out to AOC and others who did support him, but it just shows how weak and feckless the party is.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I agree with you. But some of his loudest detesters already are trying to wipe the pie off the face.

[Ericson]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So we'll see how this goes. Trump ain't happy about none of it.

[Ericson]

You see his tweet?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ericson]

He that New York Knicks logo and he said, I'm still your president. He tweeted the New York Knicks logo and said, trump is still president from the White House. Twitter, like, not from.

[Parks]

His shit is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not a real person.

[Big Mona]

He's not. He's not a human.

[Joe Button]

Trump is sick. He seemed. He seemed to be pretty disappointed by the results in New Jersey. He clearly expected different. Ciattarelli was his man, homegrown with his support, pushed his narratives. So Trump sounded very disappointed by the New Jersey results. And he. And he said, hey, New Jersey. I expected to be different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We almost had him the last time he said it.

[Joe Button]

They did. There's a lady running for governor, the Republican lady. That. And this one here is like the Dolph Lundgren of, you know, I own the politics. She's like the Dolph Lundgren of Trump. Republican ladies.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What state?

[Joe Button]

New York.

[Ericson]

New York.

[Joe Button]

New York. They gearing her up to run for governor next year, so we'll see. He already threatened Mom Donnie about, hey, play nice. I'm not playing none of your games. If you want some money over there, do you want to succeed? Act right. He ain't happy with the Virginia results. Like Trump. I just don't think it's ever over. I think that the turnout says that a lot of people are unhappy with the state of things. And it looks like at the next election and we'll see different results if we're going by some of these things. And I think it's going to be his job to try to step on all of that.

[Parks]

Once you start unleashing the fucking military and paramilitary forces on the citizens of this country, it's not going to go over great.

[Joe Button]

I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When it starts to happen, a lot of. A lot of the initial supporters was thinking that it wouldn't affect me.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, oh, he ride with us, right? No, we didn't. Now they're like, oh. And I think, to my point, again, he played on desperation.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And people thought that it was going to be, oh, he not a politician. He gonna do something different than the average politician does. We still starving, we still broke, we still desperate, we still have a dog. Everything is still the same. And no, he ain't do nothing different. Fuck him. He made all his people rich.

[Parks]

That part.

[Ericson]

That's also disappointing.

[Joe Button]

Again, congrats to. To all the winners, man. For sure. I went home, was glued to the tv. That was a lot of fun.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was over early, though, relatively, for the most part, that shit was over, like, 8, 20.

[Ericson]

They definitely were announcing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And also Virginia was one early. Like, mad shit was just one kind of early.

[Ericson]

Even California at 1101, they were announcing that Proposition 50 passed, which just So y' all know, is the redistricting, which will remove five Republican seats, most likely from the House. It is from the House Representatives. And. But the bad news. What I don't like about it is that Texas did it first to give more Republican seats. And it's gonna create a domino effect where everybody's gonna be moving districts around to shuffle things around. It's like a precedent being set. That, to me, doesn't resolve the real tat. Yeah. It doesn't resolve the actual issue, which is, like, people deserve to be represented and they deserve to have their votes matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Makes sense.

[Joe Button]

Mark, we celebrating there. You always wanna come with some algae shit. We happy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We talked about. We mentioned puffing them in the prison.

[Joe Button]

Sentence a little early. Earlier.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

TMZ is reporting that Puff has been busted by prison officials for drinking already.

[Ericson]

Drinking what?

[Big Mona]

Moonshine.

[Joe Button]

Homemade.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know, I know, but yeah, Mark, come on.

[Ericson]

That was a solid joke.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no. Mark Lamont. Oh, my God. Yo.

[Big Mona]

I don't care. You were talking about semen.

[Parks]

He is at Fort Dix or whatever was it called.

[Big Mona]

You know what's crazy?

[Joe Button]

That mean.

[Big Mona]

That mean he was partying with his cellies because he hasn't been there long enough to make his own. And they probably offer him a drink. You can't turn it down, cuz.

[Joe Button]

Then you going to look weird.

[Big Mona]

You already the rich, famous guy. You got to drink with your. He probably making the shank and all that. Do what you got to do to blend in, Puff.

[Joe Button]

Y' all be happy to dig. They gave him his own drink and not the drink you was in the middle of drinking up there. Puff was gonna get somebody's drink at Fort Dix.

[Big Mona]

Like, what is Puff?

[Joe Button]

Who thought Puff wasn't. Now y' all on the Sebastian Telfield list.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now y', all, we coming home.

[Ericson]

I know.

[Big Mona]

If y' all were in jail, you.

[Ericson]

Probably watch the show.

[Big Mona]

If y' all were in jail and y' all had time, would y' all drink moonshine? Would y' all drink?

[Joe Button]

Drink? Mark, there's no probably about it. If there's one show that he's in there keeping up with, it's yours.

[Ericson]

He knows.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This guy on that Patreon boy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you and Torre.

[Ericson]

Yo, if I follow my Patreon right now, I'd be terrified. That's kind of message he was saying, too. No, no, no. Shout out to Puff.

[Joe Button]

No. That's hilarious. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Clean it up.

[Ericson]

Oh, yeah, I'm coming.

[Joe Button]

Clean it up.

[Ericson]

I'm. I'm.

[Big Mona]

He's in Trouble.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said they moved him out of his unit.

[Big Mona]

Damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then another report says he was moved back.

[Big Mona]

They reversed.

[Joe Button]

They reversed their decision.

[Ericson]

I'm surprised he got caught, to be honest.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why they giving extra, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, it's puff my.

[Ericson]

Yeah, getting caught is crazy because that's gonna hurt. I mean, part of his early release is going to be good behavior, and I hate to see him, you know, get caught like that or anybody get caught like that.

[Joe Button]

It's rumored that he's telling people that I'm getting pardoned soon.

[Ericson]

Oh, if he's getting, I would be.

[Joe Button]

In there drinking like it's 1999.

[Ericson]

He might be throwing shots. If I knew Trump was pardon me, I'd be throwing shots back.

[Big Mona]

Nah, me, it ain't no shots of just smelly ass moonshine.

[Ericson]

That's fair. That's fair.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Bunky. Wake up, nigga. Rub this all over you and dance. But I'm coming home soon, Nigga, if you don't wake up and do the shit I like, I don't care if.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You sleep, the show don't stop.

[Ericson]

Wake up, do this shit I like.

[Big Mona]

I put this on you and then.

[Joe Button]

And wear this little. This little confetti necklace I made for you. Nigga gonna be home soon, Joe on some arts and craft shit, nigga. Hey, wear it. I'm gonna like you in this.

[Ericson]

Keep joking. He gonna be home soon.

[Joe Button]

Nigga. What?

[Ericson]

He gonna be home soon. Just remember that good fam tonight. If you see he signed up for the thousand dollar tier, just. Just know what that mean.

[Joe Button]

Oh, now the got wake up and do the running man in the corner for the next 79 hours to feel like telling them. Stop. No, keep going. Yo, I'mma do my greatest hits. You keep dancing acapella. We ain't. No way. Hey, all right, man.

[Ericson]

All right.

[Joe Button]

What else? What else? What else do we do? We feel like we have to address Jaylen Brown at some point.

[Ericson]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

It's not gonna stop. He's on his third strike.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stripe or strike?

[Joe Button]

Both. Crazy. Jaylen Brown is going to the barber that puts the shit on his face and in his hair.

[Ericson]

What makes him Philly, Y' all put the. Whatever, man. Moustache.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So disrespectful.

[Joe Button]

We don't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all draw your points.

[Joe Button]

We don't leave stains on n literal black thoughts. Oh, shit. Cash boy. Good cat. Yo, I come to work, boy. Hey, come on. I gotta come back to the game. Oh, man.

[Ericson]

Solid joke.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, Jaylen Brown is on his Third offense of playing defense or offense and rubbing his beard dye or Beijing across the opposing team's jersey garments.

[Big Mona]

He can't help.

[Joe Button]

And we keep seeing it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but we shouldn't. I know you said he can't help it, but we shouldn't see it.

[Big Mona]

Beijing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fellas, you sweat. I don't want your shit on you.

[Joe Button]

That's why it's odd, because he sweats nightly every game. Like, do he have a different Beijing that's not supposed to run off?

[Big Mona]

Alternative, bro. He has his little spaces and spots showing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, go to Turkey, that part.

[Big Mona]

If Beijing is good enough for Mark Lamont Hill, it's good enough for James.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark Lamont hill don't make 70 million a year.

[Big Mona]

Remember, we found his Beijing. That was crazy as. Yes.

[Joe Button]

Ain't that much Godzilla.

[Ericson]

If it was, it'd be signed. It wouldn't be here.

[Big Mona]

I don't think it's waterproof Beijing, though. If it was, he wouldn't use it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He using the wrong or something?

[Joe Button]

I don't know.

[Parks]

He got enough for you to.

[Ericson]

It's some kind of spray.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do y' all think he do it on his own? Don't spray that shit before I play you.

[Ericson]

Yeah, I get it. He wants to look good and he gets his hair cut before every game. Or gets sharp before every game. He's rich. I'm with that. He's in the public eye, but you just gotta not use the spray.

[Joe Button]

Who's this girl?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Fire.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Fueco.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Her last name.

[Joe Button]

She's Fire.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm.

[Joe Button]

You know. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The model girl that was on the Runway. Member? We was comparing her to Bernice, but the ball player.

[Joe Button]

Basketball. No. It's so old. I think they separated.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know who his girl is right now.

[Joe Button]

They broke up. Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Him and the basketball player girl.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even know if they were. I don't know. I don't know who he's dating.

[Joe Button]

Okay, let's check.

[Ericson]

Well, what I like.

[Parks]

This is what we need to fact check.

[Joe Button]

Right? Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying that could be a tactic too, though.

[Parks]

What's the tactic?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like? Niggas might not want that shit on them. So. Now back off me.

[Big Mona]

Get in and out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Swinging my head around.

[Joe Button]

I just think he got ice. Don't say swinging your head around. That's. That was psycho.

[Parks]

That was crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but he just made too much money for this. He can go to Turkey. He can just get A different fade. Go bald.

[Ericson]

I was about to say it might take me time to let it go.

[Joe Button]

Ain't he? But 25 or something is my thing.

[Big Mona]

And that's exactly why you can't go bald. But Turkey is an option. I think you should go to Turkey. I am all for people that go to Turkey. The healing process. Process is a little rough. But it's worth it. Cause that thin ass hairline at 25 ain't my homegirl.

[Ericson]

Just went to Turkey. Got it. Got it. Right?

[Big Mona]

Yeah. Cause these don't have family member that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just went last week that I just. And he got it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the thing.

[Parks]

Like you Turkey could probably come get him.

[Big Mona]

It's 10 days.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How about it? Gobble gobble nigga. Get your ass to boss.

[Ericson]

You can't leave to go to Turkey in the middle of the NBA season.

[Big Mona]

True.

[Ericson]

But like you said Turkey can come to him. But also maybe it's just time to go. Like when do y' all like ice Europe?

[Joe Button]

You. You go bald.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Ericson]

When did you know it was time to let it go?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When it wouldn't grow like nowhere.

[Ericson]

It wasn't like a slight hair?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. No. It was. It wouldn't grow like it was spot.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Up here. It's just done.

[Joe Button]

All right. Cool.

[Ericson]

But did you have that period where you.

[Joe Button]

How. How old were you when that happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead Mark. What you say?

[Joe Button]

All right. Man. I can't. Damn. It's tough in here. Tough road.

[Big Mona]

My first baby father lost his hair. We were together and it was terrible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I wonder why.

[Big Mona]

You see everywhere we went People put it on me and it wasn't me. He gets it from his ball head ass father. But he was like 24. In my opinion. In my opinion. Listen now. Did I stress the nigga out a little bit Maybe. But his father lost his hair. 23. 24 too. And the thing about it is I watched what it did to that boy. That boy head used to be down. He's looking all sad and shit. And people go to Turkey cause it's cheaper. You don't have to go to Turkey when you're rich. He could get it done here. Yeah. I call for pay it for what you want if it's the things they don't like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said Turkey got the best doctor.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. And Turkey also does is number one in black noses.

[Joe Button]

And if I come home and my girls dress like GI Jane. I'mma feel stressed too. I'm going to be frustrated.

[Big Mona]

What the does that mean? Who dresses like G?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's role Play time.

[Big Mona]

I used to go. I used to cook that boy full course meal pills and treat them right. I don't know what the y' all talking about. And only. I only hit him on the weekend.

[Joe Button]

You look like you're doing Ocean's eleven, but at bank of America, what's some of the poor. What's the poor bank's name?

[Big Mona]

Oh, my God. Please don't start him with the poor bank.

[Joe Button]

Don't tell me, please.

[Big Mona]

Especially at the bank of America.

[Joe Button]

It's Federal one or some. What is it?

[Big Mona]

It's Navy. Federal did that to us though.

[Joe Button]

No, but there's a poor bank, y' all know. Some, few.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some of the black orange.

[Ericson]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

PNC is one of the poor banks. Yeah, they wanted the poor banks.

[Big Mona]

This is the thing though, right?

[Joe Button]

I went home after we had that conversation like that.

[Big Mona]

I went home after we had the conversation. I said this. Joe said, what is he talking about? Like, what is the upper echelon bank? Because I don't know. And the person suggested bank of America. Is that true?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bank of America, Chase.

[Big Mona]

And guess what bank of America went viral for doing last week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Limiting.

[Big Mona]

You taking out your money. Bank of America. Cause Navy letting withdraw. You heard me. Stay where you come from.

[Ericson]

All 25, 87, 50. They got tens at the atmosphere.

[Big Mona]

Who's the poor in the hood?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, they be having a big ass side. $10. The ATMs give you 10 be in that bitch.

[Big Mona]

You know you at the wrong ATM when it's a limit of 150 and it's only 10. That spit out fives. You better get to that car quick.

[Ericson]

Get to that.

[Big Mona]

If they t you, boss. Get out of there.

[Joe Button]

I belong in this area, I promise you.

[Big Mona]

Withdrawaling will be $75.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You are not lying. I know one ATM that do it and it's in a trench for real. Right there.

[Joe Button]

Clint, that's crazy. The trenches, the rich people banks. I think I'm not saying it because I'm rich, okay? I said this when I was broke. Are the banks that allow the high, high, high earners to break the law. So that's Wells Fargo. They let. They let. They let everybody break. Little hsbc.

[Big Mona]

Bank of America. Bank of America.

[Joe Button]

I'm not so familiar with bank of America.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's tier one big banks.

[Joe Button]

Bank of America's new tier one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, nigga. Crazy.

[Joe Button]

Didn't they want them to shut down?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They wanted all of them to shut down at one point. And then guess what? Good old Buffett come, my man.

[Big Mona]

Did y' all see?

[Joe Button]

I Snitch on myself real quick. I'm sorry, mama. You better not.

[Big Mona]

Did y' all see what happened though with them? With them limiting people's money? That's a big deal.

[Joe Button]

But that's gonna be fucked up a couple weeks. That's Nah, nah, you keep doing for real. He had a tough month.

[Big Mona]

I'm telling y', all, it's not a joke. Because the government being shut down, all that is very nerve wracking. And then they playing with your money. Come on bro, that's scary. You could you going to tell me how much I can take out out of nowhere when I. We've already had this agreement where I could take out a TH000 a day or whatever and now I can only take out 200. That's not alarming. The one bank do it, the next bank going to do it. Y' all don't care.

[Joe Button]

Listen, call Navy Federal and tell them about it. See if we the revolution won't sell.

[Ericson]

You just gotta go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now they haters know the bad part. You say you just gotta go. They go on naval bases or army bases.

[Big Mona]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, but couple things that got them ain't in, can't go.

[Ericson]

So what do you do? What do you do?

[Joe Button]

You can't go. What do you do?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta call.

[Joe Button]

Where Ice Money at Down Haslett.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can't go in there either.

[Joe Button]

That's correct. Ice money is in one of them other. I might have to look up banks.

[Big Mona]

I want to join the rich people bank so I could like, you know, manifest.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't have no money, man. I don't have no money.

[Joe Button]

So Amex called me the other day to say Mr. Button, you ain't normally late, but the is late. I don't know what's going on. You gotta pay up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They still ain't call you for that black boy.

[Joe Button]

You'll step on a good. But anyway, so I say oh, I'm sorry, I'll get it over immediately. She says, thanks for the help with anything else. I said, actually, glad you're here. Actually, it is something my brother Mark, Mark Lamont Hill. Oh, said he knew somebody that could get me in the black card situation. That never panned out. What do I have to do to get invited to have a black card? Know what she said? What you doing?

[Ericson]

Just keep saying keep on running darky.

[Joe Button]

I swear to God, what you doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just keep on keeping on.

[Joe Button]

And I said, all right, just keep doing what I'm doing.

[Big Mona]

So no number? No like gold, just keep spending enough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I averages 15 pounds a day.

[Ericson]

I'm gonna call my man again. I told you what happened when I called him before about you. I think everything is straight now. I think you should be good.

[Joe Button]

You know what I think? She kept asking me if I wanted to update my profile. So I was like, well, what did the profile say? So she started reading it and she.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Said, it says you make X. And you said, no, baby, I didn't change it. Oh, well, you don't want the black.

[Joe Button]

I didn't want to be that guy. Are they gonna go off that?

[Big Mona]

Yes.

[Ericson]

It's more what you spend.

[Joe Button]

I feel like it should be what you spend.

[Ericson]

It's more what you.

[Joe Button]

Anybody could put something down there like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then my spending patterns are proving what I'm saying.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, it go hand in hand, but.

[Joe Button]

I'm sure they did.

[Ericson]

I don't know what you put down.

[Joe Button]

But it ain't hip hop.

[Ericson]

Whatever you put down, I'm sure is enough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The most it might like.

[Joe Button]

It still say 20 when you put.

[Ericson]

If you put down one, you're fine.

[Big Mona]

It still say.

[Ericson]

Is what I'm trying to tell you.

[Joe Button]

It's just wrong.

[Big Mona]

It still say what?

[Joe Button]

What?

[Big Mona]

What you say?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It say he play too much.

[Big Mona]

It still say what?

[Joe Button]

I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, for real?

[Ericson]

Half. What did you tell him?

[Joe Button]

No, I didn't. I didn't change it. I left.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm saying, where was it at? Like half.

[Joe Button]

Nah, it was like, from a couple years ago.

[Ericson]

Was it seven figures?

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah.

[Ericson]

Oh, then you're fine. That's what I'm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Seven is good.

[Ericson]

You make a. You make a gajillion times more than me. And I got a black. That's what I'm saying. Like, you're. You're in the zone trying to throw.

[Joe Button]

Them off of your. I see what. Don't try to throw them off of your trail by saying, yeah, you make a gazette. They should investigate you too, though.

[Ericson]

No, they shouldn't.

[Joe Button]

They. They should. They should watch your spending habits as well. When you go to the. The I.

[Ericson]

A. I ain't got no spending habits.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. These think they get over cuz they go to the grocery store world with all the vegetables.

[Big Mona]

This be.

[Joe Button]

Squash them. Tried to get low. When it was time to blend back in with society. They had the produce. We tracking your movements.

[Big Mona]

We got to give out some produce.

[Joe Button]

There's a cancel list. What's that mean, There's a cancel list?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's on?

[Joe Button]

Sydney Sweeney. They're canceling. And Kayla Nicole. They're canceling Sydney Sweeney. Oh, and I meant to shout out Z Way for. For her interview with Eric Akins on YouTube. It is absolutely.

[Parks]

I love Z.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely.

[Big Mona]

Z way is really, really funny.

[Joe Button]

She's great.

[Big Mona]

Hilarious.

[Joe Button]

Watch that interview if you haven't seen it. I was up at 5 in the morning just crying. Yeah. But what was I saying just now? All right, so Sydney Sweeney also. She did an interview, of course, right after I come in here bigging up white titties. All titties matter.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

She goes and does an interview where she was very bland, very short, very dry. And the lady clearly was trying to.

[Parks]

Get to the shit.

[Joe Button]

She was a good job. She was asking the questions. The one that's got everybody in a fucking frenzy is, so what do you have to say to us now to kind of speak against the old myth that white people have superior genes? Like, and Sydney Sweeney said, when there's something that I want to speak up about, you'll know, the people will know.

[Big Mona]

Damn. Yeah. You don't agree to do a commercial like that. Like, that's the thing that irritated me about the whole thing is like people acted, act pretended like it's not in the text like it is in this political climate. You as a white woman, that's famous, that's successful, you know what you read and you know, it's like she wasn't. That's the part of irritating me.

[Joe Button]

People.

[Big Mona]

I feel like people like either put it on the. The whoever wrote it, because who writes that? I guess the producer, the commercial or whatever. But when you're reading. Yo, we all do this. We all been paid to say something when you read it and it sounds crazy. You've never been paid in to say nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think, I think they.

[Big Mona]

You never promoted nothing.

[Ericson]

No, I'm not being funny. No one wants me to.

[Big Mona]

No dashiki brands, nothing. You ain't never. You ain't never put a on.

[Joe Button]

I want to say something, but I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T to want five or nothing.

[Joe Button]

I don't want them to view my take like Mark's quarterback take. But I mean, the ad company did a great job with their ad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not disagreeing.

[Big Mona]

That's debatable.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, I think.

[Joe Button]

Well, actually, it's not. If you are judging the numbers.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, okay.

[Joe Button]

Right. I'm not. I'm taking my emotions out of it.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Their job was to get shit lit. They got it lit off of rage baiting and rs. Am I wrong?

[Big Mona]

Because I don't want to do it that way. I don't want to do it.

[Joe Button]

No. I don't think that's wrong at all. Hell no.

[Big Mona]

Why are we doing it that way?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the ad was dope.

[Joe Button]

And you don't have to. And you don't have to do it that way.

[Big Mona]

You don't. Not a fucking American eagle.

[Ericson]

Wait, wait.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the ad was dope. Had it been a black. Let's say it was a black woman. I think the ad is fire.

[Joe Button]

And then they did Max again. Look.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I think white people have a problem with reading the room. You know what I'm saying? Like I think white people just have a problem with reading the room. So they might put some shit out there that they. They presume is innocent and we going to take it a certain way. Cuz they didn't read the room accordingly.

[Joe Button]

Since the beginning of time. They couldn't read.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm talking that are purposely.

[Big Mona]

I think they own.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't give a. About reading the room. They do own the room.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's like. It's like.

[Big Mona]

And they can say what the they want. They don't give a. If you're offended. Cuz you still going to get American jeans. Cuz they 2 for 80 this week. And to be. Just to let you fellas know there is no other cheap jean that lifts your ass like that. Whether you got one of them saggy asses or you got a big old box ass that shaped that the best. Cheap jeans for ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You crazy.

[Big Mona]

That's a fact. Cheap jeans for ass. Best drawers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them black girls and them Levi's and black girls.

[Joe Button]

And guests.

[Big Mona]

You're wrong about that. And I'm telling you you're wrong about that. And I'm a girl that wears jeans. If I'm talking about. I'm talking about not having the materials putting the jeans on. It gives you an ass. America is eagle. Do that. Levi don't. And neither do guests. Stop it. Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. I mean I.

[Big Mona]

You gotta take it. Cause you don't wear jeans.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. But my got ass too.

[Big Mona]

I take they got ass. That's what I say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I take your word for it.

[Big Mona]

You ain't got no. You my sensitive subject.

[Joe Button]

You my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo.

[Big Mona]

That's a sensitive subject.

[Joe Button]

I was gonna say listening to this. She got more than you. He know what jeans make his.

[Big Mona]

I hate them so bad y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Big Mona]

I hate saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Get your off man.

[Big Mona]

But that the ad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just think them is dumb as. And they didn't read the room and they ain't run it by nobody.

[Parks]

I think they wanted all this.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think.

[Parks]

They wanted all this. This went viral. This is back to his point. They did a great job. It got the most eyes that you could possibly get nowadays.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a funny risk to take. My. I don't know. Like, right.

[Ericson]

They could be tone deaf or they could do exactly what they want.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's a funny risk to take. Target is getting their asses whipped right now.

[Parks]

There's plenty of possible deniability.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Within the which is what they.

[Big Mona]

It's perfectly written where you could. You could win in court or whatever the. The thing. You know what I mean? But yeah, when you own a room, what the you care about how they.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How somebody else receive.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, y'. All. Y' all gonna do what the we say anyway.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're going to fall in line and it's a lot of out there that will look at it like, oh, they're upset. Okay, let me go join that. Let me go with that brand now.

[Ericson]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fox News viewers probably bought a give a about them jeans before, but you done made them mad.

[Big Mona]

Exactly. Sidebar. There are beautiful white women that would have said, nope, I'm not doing that. There are. There are people that would have been in her position that would have said, oh, no, I'm not doing that. Because whether it's rage rate or not, nobody benefits more than the company. So why the I'mma be the skateboard. I'm going be the one to take down with y'.

[Ericson]

All.

[Big Mona]

But when she do an interview like that, it makes you look at the whole situation differently. Like, oh, oh, okay.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You knew you.

[Big Mona]

I always knew the knew she. First of all, she had baddy baddies. Don't give a she look good. She going to still beg 10 at the saying that the she care Kayla Nicole.

[Joe Button]

They also getting her the out of here. What she doing? That's a lot of she.

[Big Mona]

I have a lot of opinions about her.

[Joe Button]

It was a lot of. A lot of old tweets. A lot of old tweets. And they were foul. Really? Should I read them? They old from 2010. Like they old high school, cuz. How old is this lady now?

[Big Mona]

She got to be under 30.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, hell no.

[Joe Button]

She.

[Big Mona]

This is the girl that does sports sports news, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Kayla Nicole is Travis. Kelsey's old Travis Kelsey. So why they killed 34 years old?

[Joe Button]

34?

[Ericson]

Yeah, she was 19 years ago.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Mona]

Is she the one that dated Tiana Taylor husband?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Big Mona]

Yes. I have a lot of opinions about this. Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Well, now that's why they killing her. Because when. When Travis Kelce left her for Taylor Swift, she went on the whole, protect black mama. I'm a black woman. A lot of of this is black, black, black, black women got all the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black girls behind her.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. And now they found tweets of her saying, I' ma need black people to stop trying to pull the black card all the time and modernize themselves to all their available opportunities. They got some other. Where she's like, ah, this is horrible. I don't even want to read this. I can hear this Indian girl praying, chanting through the wall. She got five more minutes and I'm gonna let her know that Buddha isn't real. Estimate like it's hate. It's like, like she, I don't want to read anymore. But they on her ass. Then they pulled up the old Tiana post where she addressed that was Kayla Nicole being her for Halloween was crazy. And she said, which she later found out that Kayla Nicole was doing that in an attempt to get her husband back. So they dragging the out of Kayla Nicole.

[Big Mona]

Joe. I didn't know it was to get him back. I thought she just did it on some like, I mean, I don't know exactly why, but she thought it was funny. Like she thought it was trolling almost.

[Joe Button]

She was trolling?

[Big Mona]

Yeah. I don't, I don't know if the, the energy was about getting it back or not, but regardless.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's from Tiana's. Tiana's mouth, right? I'm not saying that.

[Big Mona]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Okay, so apparently Kayla had a side thing with him or they was together.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, definitely. She had.

[Joe Button]

Then he got married. And now you dressing up as dude's wife.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's, that's insane.

[Joe Button]

And just for Halloween, she did the Tony Braxton. He wasn't man enough for me.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So she trolls through the outfits.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Button]

You were saying.

[Big Mona]

I, I, I. It was such a turn off. Because when you in those situations, even if she had them, wow, it was Tiana. Tiana was dating them. The woman is always innocent or the person that's being cheated on is always innocent. Whenever you show like, vengeance or ritual to that person, you always look strange. You know what I mean? Especially when their relationship led to marriage and children. It's like, no way. You're not going to look like some type of evil angry. So why the would you do it? And this the thing, y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Big Mona]

You know how we found out? Cuz that got on the podcast, curl her feet up and said, yeah, one here. And that didn't not go over well. So it's like, I don't know, seeing that and even with that that one when she's talking about the Indian girl. That sounds like a college thing. Like college. You kind of grown, you know what I mean? I thought she was younger so I could blame it on high school because I think it's very stupid. We bring tweets from when are 13 but you in college talking like that you can hear through the wall what you live in the orphanage, you're in college.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, probably.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. I don't know. Don't like her. I haven't liked her since Ziana Taylor did day.

[Joe Button]

Oh my gosh. She got something up here about Kobe wife.

[Big Mona]

What she say?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen to you. What she say?

[Big Mona]

She a rider. What you want to say about her?

[Joe Button]

Someone explain to me why Kobe thirsty wife thinks she can be in front of all the players sit your no green card having ass.

[Parks]

Oh God damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's old to work.

[Joe Button]

It's all old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all old though. But you also said that was black Twitter and ha ha ha and that's how it was. It was the wild wild west and all that mean. Y' all used to be champion in that mean shit.

[Ericson]

I don't ever champion mean shit.

[Big Mona]

Me neither.

[Ericson]

Is not that kind of mean shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That shit is mean as to me.

[Joe Button]

And to be clear, I acknowledge what the black Twitter era was and what it did. A lot of greatness came from it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

I acknowledge that separate from that I don't try to make it seem like. Like that it's cool because no, I think the grew up learned some things. The world functions differently and it was fun in 09 ain't fun now it ain't fun.

[Big Mona]

And things change. Things became. We became more aware of stuff. People are hyper focused and we're more.

[Joe Button]

We heard more from oppressed groups. We started communicating with people that maybe we didn't grow up with. So how they felt about. I get it. I totally get it it right so I'm not going to hang out the drive but I am going to read all the comments to the people that will yeah y. I be in the comments. Yo, I ain't. I ain't scared at all. I'm reading. I read about the chat comments like the gossip comments. Not you though. I know I know him. He always throwing jabs. What you want? That's the cancel list for the day care if you care if you don't.

[Big Mona]

Are people really angry at Sydney for real? I can't imagine they really mad.

[Joe Button]

What's black people trying to tell you don't care about none of that.

[Big Mona]

I have a question. Did they ever make the documentary about black Twitter? It was like I heard about it, then I didn't.

[Joe Button]

It wasn't good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They called you?

[Big Mona]

No, it was disappointing.

[Joe Button]

Mark was in it, right?

[Ericson]

I think I was in it, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Once I seen Mark in it, I was like Mark being they hit the right Mark.

[Big Mona]

Nobody wanted to hear that about those smart tweets.

[Ericson]

I can't hear you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wasn't Ash in it?

[Joe Button]

Ash was in it, yeah. Shout out to Ash.

[Big Mona]

It was disappointing. Just like the freaknick documentary. Cuz that one sucked too.

[Joe Button]

I was freak Nick documentary. They couldn't. They couldn't show the truth.

[Parks]

You're the bad do guy.

[Joe Button]

We got this real shitty doc.

[Parks]

Let's get Marco M on it.

[Big Mona]

You know why the freak. The freak Nick documentary sucked? Because they. I don't know if they announced it or a leaked that it came out too early, but it did. They did that too early. So then the streets ran with what they thought it would be about. So then you got people posting stuff like mom, you better clear that up now. Or even older women posting the pictures of them looking freaky or whatever. And then everybody ran with that. So when it came out and it was like six old on the porch. Yeah, but I think it's because we created in our head it was going to be so super freaky versus what.

[Ericson]

And that's not what this. It was supposed to be about. Yeah, I thought it was a great doc actually. I thought. And shout out to Jay, my man, who J. Allen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who.

[Joe Button]

Who produced it.

[Big Mona]

And you thought it was good.

[Joe Button]

You in it though, my yo.

[Big Mona]

What?

[Ericson]

I mean I'm in that doc.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I dig a ride with a scene. Hey yo, shout out to my JJ John score.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you going to go the 1500 keep adding up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I think that the freak that doc was underwhelming and that was really outside, you know what I mean? Like you ain't had footage of some of that that was going on was. And some of that you can't show. Yeah, I was there.

[Ericson]

I, you know, for. You know, I was. You was there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. They built the pyramid on the highway.

[Joe Button]

You knew M was a freak.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nick, I wasn't doing what he was doing.

[Joe Button]

But you been a freak, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Fish was a freak.

[Ericson]

Yeah. I mean I went to morehouse in the 90s, remember we had the Greek. I had a car, my friend.

[Joe Button]

Everything was free.

[Ericson]

You couldn't not be a freak.

[Joe Button]

I thought you was going to freaknick.

[Big Mona]

Dog Mark, you Remember the Greek?

[Joe Button]

Greek? Yeah. The Greek was the Greek Fest. Bike week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black Bike week.

[Joe Button]

Bike week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I never been.

[Joe Button]

Are y' all glad that. I wouldn't say glad because we. We old, but should these things just not be around anymore? Like, the other day, I was thinking about when I first MTV used to do something in Mexico every year. Spring break.

[Big Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

And as a rapper, we wanted to be invited to this. Not necessarily to perform in all as a human.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You wanted to be. I wanted to be a spring break.

[Joe Button]

And if you just was outside and just. I'm talking about hundreds and thousands.

[Parks]

Girls gone wild.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, bro.

[Ericson]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was kind of to my DMX point and all that other, like. Like, they niggas put DMX on the stage in front of 70,000 white people and had them niggas crying and falling out and all that shit. That was back in the Times. We just wanted to be there. Like, this is some bullshit. I'm stuck over here in Baltimore. Fucking DMX got 80,000 drunk white girls in front of him. Like, that shit was fun. Like, back in the day, going to the Greek or going to Freaknik, shit like that. I think it should still be around. It kind of resembles homecoming to me.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all know, like, that's what the younger was doing. Memorial Day, Miami, they was doing the same. They had their versions of it. No, no, they did.

[Joe Button]

We're not saying the same things.

[Ericson]

What you said.

[Joe Button]

But that's not that, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it's that. I'm saying that they did their versions of spring break of this particular time of the year. We all. Everybody's going here, and it's the big part.

[Joe Button]

I guess that's what it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what it was.

[Joe Button]

But it's not that.

[Big Mona]

It's a different energy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a different energy. It's a different feeling.

[Joe Button]

Like, make ice, Mag. I understand what he said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just, cell phones alone destroys. That's it. The cell phone destroys it. A lot of that was more good point. The people who wasn't there wanted to be there because of the stories you heard. Yeah, you had the actual. That it was like lore. It was like a. A story of, oh, my God, I.

[Joe Button]

Had a fairy tale. I had to go to some of this stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But now I had to hit Myrtle beach to Isha's point. Everybody got a phone out. I could go on Instagram and see everything that's happening down there. See, that's the problem missing now, because you don't miss nothing.

[Joe Button]

I do want to tell the kids out There seeing it and being it ain't the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Totally different. Totally different things.

[Joe Button]

It's a gift that you get to see. See it. And y' all have way more info than we did because y' all get to see so much. But it's. It's not the same as being. It's some that just make you mad you ain't there.

[Big Mona]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Fomo.

[Big Mona]

You go. You feel that buzz in the air, that energy when. When Greek was out in Philadelphia because I was too young to attend, stuff like that. But you would just walk to the corner of the bigger street, so it was more street.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You could see all this park was packed, bro. That park. All you had to do, bro.

[Big Mona]

And it's the. And I'm 10. But you can feel the energy. You can feel it. Then the ride down, doing the willy and the. Don't have no brow on there. You see titties. This is crazy. I'm not going in the house. And that's the thing. I don't care about how many tick tocks you watch. You have to go there to feel that energy. Your nipples get hard. It's like, oh, my God, I'm here. Like, you have to be there.

[Joe Button]

You know, no freaknik was. Oh, they. We're just walking around topless, naked. Oh, he eating her out. Oh, she's sucking. You can just walk down the street.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, Atlanta traffic is already bad. Atlanta traffic is probably some of the worst in the country. Yeah, dog. Darn freak.

[Ericson]

Nick can't move.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Be like, damn, Shorty tough in the car. Shorty would get out the car. Get in your car, Molly. Whop you off. We went down there one year. I was in college, and my man got out the car. So my man could get right. You couldn't go nowhere. Dog throws the condom just out.

[Ericson]

Like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was that type of energy down there. That's just crazy.

[Joe Button]

Wait, stop for one second.

[Big Mona]

Did y' all watch Car full of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Car full of. Car full of chicks. My man started talking to a chick.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I heard the story. Did you. Did you bag anything, or did you just keep getting out the car? Blow your little man. Hey, sweet eyes, take this comment. Go ahead, throw it out. Hang it out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, got out the car.

[Joe Button]

Bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was crazy. My. It was just a different type of energy. It's like you looking on Instagram, seeing somebody at a villa in Bali. You didn't feel the breeze. It's two totally different things.

[Joe Button]

So it's like you walking out your door and your only fan algorithm is just in the Lobby. That's what it's like. Oh, don't stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pop that.

[Joe Button]

Yo, they were so wild. I only went to one freaknik. I was like, oh, this is too advanced. I'm underage. Hell, now to use my dick, I'm going home. My man Carr barely made it up here. It's from the auction. Come on. They have beads that you could rely on.

[Big Mona]

I feel like bike week was just as freaky, though, cuz. Bike week. Bike week was a little later. And I remember my girlfriend's going, and, like, you walk in there, they just grab your ass. Grab your ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything nasty, too.

[Joe Button]

Yours too. No.

[Big Mona]

No, I was not sexually assaulted. I never been to bike. My girlfriends would talk about that.

[Joe Button]

She got me. She got for you good. You know what I mean? She get used to it. She get used to it.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Memories, man. Shout out the memories. Good to be Mary J. I'm reminisce on the love we had the good old days Y'. All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all caught up with Mayor Kingstown? We catch up to Mayor Kingston.

[Joe Button]

When does Mayor Kingsdown come out?

[Parks]

Sundays.

[Joe Button]

Sundays. How many episodes out? Two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, so shout out.

[Parks]

Yeah, we already talked about it.

[Joe Button]

It ain't. Yeah. You scared me for a second.

[Big Mona]

Nobody watched the show I suggested Losers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the show?

[Big Mona]

The Jerry City.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't watching.

[Joe Button]

Watch that. Who?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My girl saw the preview last night, was like, I want to watch this.

[Joe Button]

I was like, what's Dreary City?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She could watch that.

[Joe Button]

Some people are saying.

[Parks]

I kept watching it. I still don't think it's.

[Joe Button]

You stand by it?

[Parks]

Yeah, I think it's. I don't think it's that good.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that is.

[Parks]

It's. It's just too reliant on, like, CGI effect to me to be particularly good.

[Joe Button]

But I'm gonna.

[Parks]

I'm gonna keep watching it.

[Joe Button]

I'm gonna check it out.

[Parks]

I'm gonna keep watching it. I just don't think it's episode two.

[Big Mona]

Dropped.

[Parks]

I watched it.

[Joe Button]

Did everyone see the Michael Jackson biopic trailer?

[Big Mona]

I did, yeah.

[Ericson]

We should talk about that on Patreon. We gotta give it a deep dive.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And we got little Mike here, and.

[Big Mona]

We need little Mike in it. Like, it's not the same as.

[Ericson]

No. Last night. Like, do not talk about this without me. Okay. So we.

[Joe Button]

We all committed. So glad that you brought that up. What a. I read that.

[Ericson]

I ain't saying all that.

[Joe Button]

No, I read. No. I couldn't believe he said that. I read him and was like, well, I. I agree with him.

[Ericson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But he said, even if you guys talk about it on the main, I'm bringing it up on the Patreon.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, you got.

[Joe Button]

You got it. You got to read it. That's how I sounded. That's how I read it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

N. Cuz he started with look. Just making it clear. Oh, that gave you the scratchy.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Ericson]

You marched himself it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, y' all bring up the MJ movie trailer during the main. Expect me to talk about it again on the Patreon.

[Ericson]

Salute.

[Joe Button]

Very sassy. Very.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was sassy. That was some sassy.

[Big Mona]

It was direct and polite.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just know.

[Joe Button]

Just know. No. And know why I love the podcast group chat. Left that right there by himself. Not one. Not a cocky, not a lol. Left him to think about what he just sent a group of. And Mona, who's like a who.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like a group of.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So Mark, you right. Let's not rob our good brother of his joy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or let's rob him. No, I'm just playing. I ain't gonna do that to you.

[Joe Button]

E. I want to see. I want to hear what he got to say about it.

[Ericson]

I mean, I can't wait to see. I think me and him gonna argue about about it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, subscribe to that Patreon. Sign up to that Patreon forward SL Joe Button. Breaking all types of records over there. Let's keep running it up for the fourth quarter, y'.

[Big Mona]

All. Me and is slap boxing on the Patreon later.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, dog. What girl, have you ever you heard use the words slap box?

[Big Mona]

He asked me, do I want a slap box? I said, this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want slap box?

[Big Mona]

He asked me. I said yes. I oblige. That's why his face red is up on the balcony two real fast. I like come in the house. Chill out, chill out. Sit the down. Don't say nothing else. Who next?

[Joe Button]

I don't have anything else that really needs my attention. They on Big Sean ass, too.

[Big Mona]

Why?

[Joe Button]

What do you say? What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Big Sean.

[Joe Button]

Oh, here it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here it is.

[Joe Button]

Here it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please tell me what he said.

[Joe Button]

They said you broke up with a queen over a powdered donut. My. He said no. It's pretty funny how the Internet can give life to things with no confirmation. I'm sending love to everyone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Though he was serious.

[Joe Button]

Hold on. Oh, he replied under the picture of him, after 10 years in the child, Big Sean allegedly dumped your name without marrying her and already has a new supermodel girlfriend. They got a little picture and underneath he says, this Is so false.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

With laugh with a laughing. That clears it up for me, Sean. Yeah.

[Big Mona]

So that means they're not broken up either, right?

[Ericson]

Or he didn't break up with her.

[Parks]

Oh, it's false.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or they telling the truth. Or it ain't nobody business.

[Joe Button]

Sean is another one that watches this show when his name is mentioned. So what I will say is this to you rappers out there, believe Big Sean. When we go to the events with the girl that we fucking and we try to go in first and the came and hey. And we tell her to come in with security or something, and then the camera catches paparazzi like they know the game, man. It's a tough sell to say, hey, nothing is happening here. Especially when the lady is beautiful. When the lady is beautiful. We assume that the rich rapper did that.

[Big Mona]

So you can't have girlfriends. You can't have girlfriends.

[Joe Button]

No. To really answer you. No. The answer is no.

[Big Mona]

That is so stupid.

[Joe Button]

If you were in a very public relationship and it was more than four years, five years, right? You cannot be seen. There's an amount of time that has to pass. Okay. You cannot be seen publicly with anybody that the public would think is somebody else. There's an amount of time they gotta go by.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you think? I think that anytime you're a dude or chick and you in public and they just see you with somebody, somebody gonna say, y' all fucking whether y' all are or not. But it's different when you come in like him off a 10 year relationship.

[Joe Button]

Neither one of y' all have mics. What'd you say? Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said it's different when you. Somebody like Big Sean coming off a 10 year relationship, coming off a.

[Joe Button]

Off of the. The.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The marriage conversation that was had. All of that looked different. And then you pop it up right away. Now. Yeah. Just being seen with somebody gonna think you. But with all of that in there, you look a little crazy. If Joe Button was walking in the nick game, that's why I. No, you famous. I'm just saying you. I'm just using you. If Joe Button was walking in the nick game and just so happened to.

[Big Mona]

See.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe and Imani went to the game thing, but Joe just happened to be talking to Snow. You just happen to be walking in talking.

[Joe Button]

That's funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

That was a little.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, Joe just happened to be talking to Snow Allegro on a walk in and some camera see him. It's gonna be a thing. Joe's snow.

[Joe Button]

That's just how the move outside my will have money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, God. All Right.

[Joe Button]

You can't just. You can't just dick to anybody. You got you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta have some discretion.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Discernment is important. Oh, man. Yo, y' all are dumb. And I'm joking. And I'm joking. And I'm joking. I was about to say something.

[Ericson]

It's been a great show. We enjoyed making as much as you enjoy it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And do remember, the baddies is insecure. The stag.

[Joe Button]

Now it's time for part of the show. And lucky for y', all, they are parts of the show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold that up right now.

[Joe Button]

They'll be right here.

[Big Mona]

Right?

[Joe Button]

Oh, this is a long one. Little Timmy. What did little Timmy say? He's got a lot to say.

[Big Mona]

Oh, my gosh.

[Joe Button]

Little Timmy says. Hey, guys. Hey. Hey, Mark. Glad you're here for this one. Glad you didn't run off yet. No, I'm joking. We don't. We don't have a part of the show. Let me see. This guy says. Demetrius says. I've been a big Law and Order fan, especially svu. I stumbled across the thread of actors and celebrities who were on an episode as New York, New Jersey natives. Have you witnessed them shooting an episode, and would you like to be on an episode? I've seen them shoot Law and Order episodes all the time. They shoot Harlem.

[Parks]

They shoot so much in the story.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. They be all over New York. Yeah, they do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What be pissing me off when they put the address and you know the address, and that ain't what it look like there.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, ain't no house in Elizabeth look like that, fam. They don't want to give the actual house got strung up by their toenails like the neighborhood.

[Ericson]

I know what you're saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, that's all.

[Joe Button]

I always catch them by DAP crib and hunt. 25th, all that. Now, if Maria is in that scene, the block gets shut down. You can't stand there and wait. You can't stand there and wait. If Maria's in that scene, they gonna sweep you smooth off that block. You'll get to see iced tea, maybe Coco. You won't see Maria. Yeah, they blocking that hole. Maria been on Mariska. I'm saying Maria. I mean, Mariska. Sorry about that. That. But, yeah, she been on every scene. She ain't. Yeah, she don't play. All right, that was our part of the show. It's time to load up some sleeper pics. Yo, how come it's. How come me, but how come me just doing the show is like a joke? Cuz want the show to end, right? We had a time. Part three, 32. Yeah. All right.

[Ericson]

That's why I was trying to.

[Joe Button]

Time is on y' all side. We done?

[Parks]

Huh?

[Big Mona]

We don't gotta end. Just cookies.

[Joe Button]

Time is on your side. We done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We done it.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, little Timmy.

[Big Mona]

Give me a snack. I can keep going. I don't give a fuck.

[Joe Button]

Hey, little Timmy. Try to make it another week without our help.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Getting 750 an episode.

[Ericson]

Be strong, Timmy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She getting 750 a episode.

[Joe Button]

Mariska. Yes. And it's mad episode. No, I know in a law and.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Order state, she made 29 million lives.

[Joe Button]

Always dropping like 23 episodes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She made 29 million. They said last. Last year.

[Big Mona]

Damn. What the I a realize how much money was in that tv. They be sending me checks from the miss show.

[Ericson]

Oh, and I be getting my little residuals from my shows like that. Yeah, I did. I did episode of Younger one time that still get checks.

[Big Mona]

Mother in the headlock. I said.

[Ericson]

You going to say save you word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That don't matter.

[Joe Button]

That don't care.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't. Don't kiss up now.

[Joe Button]

Mark is so funny, yo. Seriously, if you into that dark humor. Mark is a jerk. Yeah, Mark. Oh, man. All right. Only a few more topics to get through.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

It. So they canceling flights. Canceling these flights, man. 4,000 a day if you are traveling. Look at his helping me.

[Ericson]

He can't help but talk.

[Joe Button]

He loved to talk.

[Big Mona]

Free to G, Free Puffy. The bad bitches. Let's go.

[Joe Button]

For real.

[Big Mona]

Let's stop playing around. This shit ain't funny now. I'm telling you, like these niggas. You have a turtle head. Your phone ringing and this motherfucker's gonna stop. Like, please. Let's wrap this up.

[Ericson]

We gotta get.

[Parks]

See what I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I try to make you dance, you.

[Joe Button]

Know, make it good. When you hear this dance, you ain't got to worry about me and you won't miss me like Monifa. We ain't going to let him spell his name out. We can't hit him with the P, U, F, F, T, A double D. No, sorry, we can't do that. Here it goes. Well, I know I've been acting strange. This was my yo.

[Big Mona]

I heard that these old y'.

[Joe Button]

All hope y' all enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed delivering it to. I did you wrong and I did my life. I know that things ain't right Seem like all we do. I love you, baby. It's my baby birthday next week. Happy birthday. She Already texted me. Am I getting a cake? Oh my. Oh.

[Ericson]

Since we doing birthday shout out November 7th. Big birthday today, my brother. Shout out to you. Hold your head.

[Big Mona]

Freemark brothers. Free mop guy. Happy birthday, nigga. Hold your head up.

[Ericson]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Yo, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Till next time we bid you a new farewell. Adio. Cerebra dirchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long and bio. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments. Hold on, let Bobby get his off. It's been on my mind I'm gonna make it right I'll be by your side no lonely night them is yo them is them boys.

[Big Mona]

You mean to grab a mic?

[Joe Button]

We gotta. I'm going to that concert New York I want to go to. I might go to both.

[Ericson]

I bought Jersey tickets. I'm definitely going 13. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Another sold on soul.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So long goodbye Yada yada yada. Remember life is a series of moments. Rest in peace. Heavy D. Yes. How about that cologne?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As I keep cool is H cuz that's that blush because my body got Versace taste Rolex on my cuff Flooded with diamonds and stuff I have a dozen hundred in my driveway.

[Joe Button]

I should.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have kept it real when I was with you Instead I missed you.

[Joe Button]

What's everybody on this weekend? Weekend plans. Weekend plans.

[Parks]

I'm outside.

[Joe Button]

All right. Parks is outside.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm inside.

[Joe Button]

All right. You inside. Still getting better, right? Not that flip ish I ain't doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm going to see Big Momo at the yes.

[Big Mona]

He's coming to support his co workers.

[Joe Button]

Where you gonna be at? Where you gonna be at? Understand you.

[Big Mona]

You don't want to know what I'm doing this weekend. You don't want to know what I'm doing.

[Joe Button]

I do. It's is being a dick Y I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Said I'm going to support my coming outside.

[Joe Button]

You going and that's the end. And we going to go. We going to go support Mona. I might go and that's it.

[Big Mona]

You is not going. And you know what I'm doing.

[Joe Button]

They can't get a ticket. They can't go nowhere.

[Big Mona]

I ain't selling nothing but the Patreon my. What are you talking about?

[Joe Button]

Hey yeah, talk to these. They talking about.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, I'm working this weekend though. I'm in nyc.

[Joe Button]

Pop out, you know and I'm serious.

[Big Mona]

Saturday night I'm in NYC and I'm staying tonight. Tonight I'm staying in the city. Hopefully I'll get.

[Parks]

Okay, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, I'm going go check it out, man. Just mel the coochie over the waves.

[Ericson]

Out over the net.

[Joe Button]

Mark, what you on?

[Ericson]

I ain't on, man. Just working all weekend, not even going out.

[Joe Button]

You open that door. Open that door.

[Ericson]

A lot of tragedies.

[Joe Button]

I ain't got too much going on. They taking me to see some somebody house. The builders taking me to see some other house. I'm going to be nosy. That's it. And I'm in the crib with it. I'm popping out to support Mona and that's that on that. Why you think that's a joke?

[Big Mona]

Because you not coming.

[Joe Button]

I'm coming to support.

[Big Mona]

I think you will come to one of my stand up shows, though. I think you will because I'm gonna have VIP seating for you.

[Ericson]

You got VIP seating for this Saturday night?

[Big Mona]

No, it's not my event.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm wearing a Halloween mask when I come. I'm not coming to be productive. I'm coming this direct shit. Yeah, I'm coming. Coming. Warrior.

[Big Mona]

This crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's it.

[Ericson]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

Yo, y' all hold it down, man. Stay safe, Stay dangerous. If you are traveling, make sure you get to the airport with ample time. With ample time. It's the chocolate Mac. And we go front eyes red from Blunts. Been on tour for months. They dipping crush landed. Play it from the beginning. Cream and women and I be sinning that's how I'm living. Yeah, I wanted to hear this verse. Y' all go freeze. That's me and Freeze. Yeah, I mean, we want to know about their whereabouts. Where they at? Me and Freeze ain't playing because it's us. Freeze. Us. It is us. Girls get go the they talking about. All right, we out here. Y' all hold it down. Sign up the Patreon. Hey, that's my Patreon. Mark Patreon, Amani Patreon, Flip Patreon. Especially my Patreon. Yes, I know, man. Run it up. Y' all hold it down, man. Have a blessed and safe weekend out there.

[Big Mona]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jody.

[Joe Button]

We'Ll fold that up right now. You've never heard of Joe buddy?