Episode 880 | "Destinys Food"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 880 | "Destiny's Food"

Date: November 22, 2025
Podcast: The Joe Budden Podcast
Network: The Joe Budden Network

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Episode Overview

This episode is a classic, freewheeling conversation among Joe Budden and his regular cast of friends, touching on everything from dental mishaps to their experiences at the star-studded Brandy, Monica & Kelly Rowland concert in Brooklyn, rampant homeownership debates, industry drama, viral news, recognition in Rolling Stone, and plenty of flavor on hip hop culture, Black excellence, and societal issues. In true JBP fashion, the episode is filled with jokes, introspection, inside stories, and unfiltered cultural critique, all while keeping it rooted in the group’s authentic camaraderie.

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Table of Contents

• On Veneers and Getting Older (00:00–04:00)
• Group Dynamics, Friendships & Homeowner Woes (05:00–08:00)
• Strip Club & Concert Recaps: Brandy, Monica, Kelly Rowland (10:00–23:00)
• Concert Review Highlights (19:00–42:00)
• Rolling Stone Recognition & Making the List (43:00–46:00)
• Complex’s Comedy List, Media Recognition, & Clout (47:00–50:00)
• Music Industry Commentary: Apple Artist of the Year, Burna Boy’s Fan Controversy (50:00–54:00)
• Burna Boy Fan Dispute & Performer Standards (54:00–59:00)
• Consumerism, Wastefulness, and $85K Timbs (110:00–117:00)
• Award Shows, Rolling Stone, and Black Recognition (125:00–129:00)
• Neighborhood Watch: Sex Offender List & "Karen" Debate (193:00–200:00)
• Family, Exes, and Multigenerational Households (133:00–147:00)
• Michael Beach Living Situation Discussion (133:21–144:02)
• Cultural/Celebrity News: Nicki Minaj at the UN, Pharrell on DEI, and More (103:59–169:49)
• Music Releases, De La Soul Album, Ransom, Tim's EP (91:32–158:28)
• Closing Notes, Fans' Questions & Next Shows (170:58–207:23)

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On Veneers, Dentists & Aging (00:00–04:00)

• The pod opens with jokes about teeth, veneers, and “staying grounded” by keeping one real tooth.
• Joe shares a story about going to the dentist and learning he had one real tooth left, surprised he wasn’t fully done.
  • "Honestly, when I went to the dentist, I thought that they was all done... But it wasn't until I went to get a cleaning, she slipped and told me, 'you got one real one in the back.'" — Joe (02:05)
• The group delves into gravity, aging, and the need for dental implants, ending with self-deprecation and “entertainment show” reminders.

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Group Dynamics, Friendships, and Homeowner Woes (05:00–08:00)

• Extended playful bickering about who helps out whom in the friend group, referencing home repairs, yard work, and who “always knows a guy.”
• “What a friend group.” — Reminder that friendship is about showing up for small tasks as much as big drama.

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Strip Club & Concert Recaps: Brandy, Monica, Kelly Rowland (10:00–23:00)

• Joe attended a Thursday-night concert in Brooklyn as a 45-year-old, trying to relive youthful evenings.
• Big singalong and storytelling about the Monica, Brandy, and Kelly Rowland show at Barclays.
  • "My girl knew the concert to be at with me. Boy, that was the right concert to get a mistake two-step with a stranger." (14:13)
• Joe and crew discuss feeling “old” for going out, but loving it, and getting “fomo” (fear of missing out) from those who couldn’t go.

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Concert Review Highlights & The Kelly Rowland Revelation (19:00–42:00)

• Key moments & standout quotes:
  • The performances were stellar: Money Long was a “vocals to death” performer. (19:38)
  • "This is now a Kelly Rowland Stan Page. Ben."
  • Joe has an epiphany about Kelly Rowland: "How am I just putting two and two together that Kelly Rowland is a goddess amongst mortals?" (21:20)
  • Kelly’s presence: The group gushes over her beauty and talent, and poke fun at themselves for their awe.
  • Food tangents: Joe eats an embarrassing amount of popcorn and glizzies (hot dogs), with Parks clowning him for it. (24:06, 30:01)
  • On Kelly’s performance: "By the time I sat down... she just put on an absolute clinic at controlling the stage, singing, dancing, everything."
  • Brandy and Monica do “The Boy Is Mine” and use a “versus” format to keep the crowd engaged. (32:00)
  • Tyrese and Ciara came out as surprise guests; Ciara is highlighted for exceptional dancing and presence.
  • Max B gets brought out by Monica—odd stylistic clash, but celebrated for his homecoming.
  • Fat Joe and Ja Rule’s drama is discussed, with skepticism about online “reports.”
• Group is critical and comedic toward show formats and crowd dynamics.

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Rolling Stone Recognition & Making the List (43:00–46:00)

• The Big News: Joe and the podcast are recognized as “Voices of the Year” by Rolling Stone.
  • “As the Joe Budden Podcast enters its 10th year, the rapper turned media mogul opens up...” (44:22; Mark reading piece’s description.)
  • They're on the list with Lady Gaga, Bad Bunny, Mark Maron, Rihanna, Clipse, Seth Rogen, and others — a notable milestone.
  • The group is proud, hype, and grateful for the acknowledgment.

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Complex’s Comedy List, Media Recognition, & Clout (47:00–50:00)

• Mona is also honored on Complex’s “Top 25 Funniest People on the Internet” (she's modest but proud).
  • Lou Young and Lou Ratchet also make her highlight reel.
• Rolling recognition on “The Route 100,” Apple’s Artist of the Year (Tyler, The Creator — “he deserves it”), and how media acknowledgment continues to shape their careers.

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Music Industry Commentary: Burna Boy Fan Controversy (50:00–59:00)

• Burna Boy removes a sleeping fan from a show and then responds harshly online, saying he doesn’t want “broke fans.”
  • Group critiques his repeated difficult behavior toward fans and his “no broke fans” comments — consensus: bad for business and artist-fan relationships.
  • “Your stadium is filled with people who saved up to buy tickets to see you. And if you say f them, you ain’t gonna have no fans in the audience.” (59:05)

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Rolling Stone & Complex Recap (46:00–50:00)

• Celebration for being showcased as media voices and comedy stars;
• Reflection on what these lists say about the state of Black culture, new media, and influence;
• Discussion on DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) impact.

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$85,000 Timbs: Consumerism, Waste, and Status (110:00–117:00)

• Conversation turns to the $85,000 Louis Vuitton/Pharrell x Timberland boots:
  • Joe: “I’m not getting them.”
  • Ice: “You said you spent $3,000 on Tims, but you won’t get these?” — introduces a debate on financial responsibility, wastefulness, status, and relative privilege.
  • “At some level, then everything is wasteful.” — Mark (115:19)
  • The group grapples with differences in access and attitudes toward luxury goods and definitions of “wastefulness.”

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Award Shows, Grammys, DEI, Pharrell, and Cultural Recognition (125:00–129:00; 162:01–169:49)

• Recognition for Black artists in media cycles is debated—importance, shortcomings of industry recognition.
• Pharrell’s DEI comments catch criticism:
  • Pharrell suggests job opportunities should be based on merit, not DEI initiatives.
  • Mark Lamont Hill: “That’s a scary message... that’s not the real world. In an ideal situation, all that would sound cool, but we don’t live in a world where the qualified get the jobs.” (167:39)
• They skewer celebrities for “being out of touch” and forgetting where and why DEI and affirmative action exist.

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Family, Exes, and Multigenerational Households (133:00–147:00)

• The Michael Beach “I live with my ex-wife and current wife” revelation—debated for maturity, practicality, and “the village” concept.
  • Ice: “It’s a matter of maturity. Most of us never get there, but I don’t think it’s bad if you got children by both women.”
• The idea of living with exes is explored from gender, emotional, practical standpoints—would any of them do it? (Answers: mostly no.)

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Cultural/Celebrity News: Nicki Minaj, Kanye, and Meg Thee Stallion (103:59–169:49)

• Nicki Minaj’s speech at the UN, parroting unnuanced right-wing talking points about persecution of Christians in Nigeria is criticized.
  • “She’s being used... but to damage, it misrepresents what’s happening in Nigeria.” (107:06-108:54, Mark)
• Brian McKnight beef: Mark responds to McKnight’s comments on the show with receipts and anecdotes about poor behavior.
  • “Brian McKnight, you are an asshole. And that’s okay. It’s not a beef… you just an asshole.” (66:23)
• Megan Thee Stallion trial: Joe’s name surfaces in the online defamation case; group reflects on the legal drama and online responsibility.
• Smokey Robinson and the wave of new allegations (including from men) — the hosts react with gallows humor but seriousness.

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Neighborhood Watch, Karen Debate & Safety (193:00–200:00)

• Extended debate: Is running the sex offender registry on your neighbors “Karen” behavior or responsible parenting?
  • Ice: “I run the list. I want to know who’s around my kids.”
  • Ish: “That’s Karen energy.”
  • Mark: “Being aware is not Karen. The action is.”
• Good-natured but real back-and-forth about community safety, privacy, Black culture in neighborhoods, and what being “Karen” really means.

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More Highlights, Inside Jokes & Memorable Quotes

• On music in 2025: Praise for De La Soul’s new album, Ransom, Tim’s new project, and a robust year for “the rappers.”
  • “If you’re a fan of rap, this was a year for the rappers... the rappers delivered.” (94:09)
• On Joe’s spending and privilege:
  • “You got $3,000 Tims and you said you don’t wear boots—that’s wasteful.” (114:35)
  • “It’s all relative. So somebody will look at somebody, somebody that says, 'yo, you got on a $7,000 watch, you’re an idiot.' When there are watches that cost $250.” (116:02)
• On industry change: Labels now “wait and see” what songs take off before they invest in videos or marketing.
• On Max B’s return to the stage: Joy, confusion, and local pride, but crowd reactions are mixed.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Kelly Rowland is a goddess among mortals.” — Joe (21:20)
• “Burna Boy has had quite a few incidents on a stage where he bugs out on a fan or storms off the show completely. Ever since somebody threw something at him while he was on stage.” — Joe (51:53)
• “Your stadium is filled... with people who made a sacrifice to see you. If you say fuck them, you ain’t gonna have no fans.” — Mark (59:05)
• “Brian McKnight, you are an asshole. And that's okay. It's not a beef… you just an asshole. I'm basing that on having interviewed Brian Benight lots of times.” — Mark (66:23)
• “It’s levels to wastefulness. I think buying an $80,000 pair of boots is a lot more wasteful than having four watches.” — Mark (117:40)
• “In an ideal situation, all of that (Pharrell's merit talk) would sound cool, but we don't live in a world where the qualified get the jobs.” — Ice (167:39)
• “I'm glad I don't talk to Pharrell. ... You can have the jellyfishes.” — Joe (170:28)
• “Once a tree jumper always a tree jumper.” — Ice (195:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00 – Show disclaimer, opening jokes about Joe’s teeth
• 10:20 – Joe’s Thursday night out, the concert kickoff
• 19:00 – Money Long, Kelly Rowland, Brandy & Monica concert breakdown
• 23:00 – The glizzy (hot dog) saga at the concert
• 43:13 – Rolling Stone “Voices of the Year” recognition
• 47:42 – Mona makes the Complex comedy list
• 50:32 – Apple Artist of the Year, Tyler, The Creator
• 51:22 – Burna Boy ejection controversy
• 66:23 – Brian McKnight calls out Mark; Mark’s direct response
• 86:05 – Mark's "Friendsgiving" invitation & shoeless house debate
• 110:00 – $85,000 Tims, wastefulness argument
• 125:00 – Grammys, DEI, and cultural recognition
• 133:21 – Michael Beach lives with his ex-wife and wife
• 166:19 – Pharrell on DEI; group criticism
• 193:00 – Karen behavior and running the sex offender registry
• 203:26 – Mona announces her upcoming stand-up shows

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Closing & Next Shows (203:26–end)

• Mona announces two stand-up shows in Atlanta, November 29th; asks listeners to support.
• The crew shouts out chefs and the kitchen staff, wraps up with laughter, and preps for Mark’s Friendsgiving.

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Overall Tone & Style

Lighthearted, irreverent, sometimes insightful, sometimes intentionally petty; the chemistry is vibrant, with roles well established—Joe as ringleader/storyteller, Parks as dry observer, Mark Lamont Hill as the academic/voice of reason, Mona providing comic relief, and Ice bringing street smarts and blunt hot takes. There’s a mutual respect—plus lots of call-backs to earlier shows, inside jokes (“you be glizzied up!”), and affectionate roasting.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential slice of the Joe Budden Podcast: equal parts cultural analysis, music industry commentary, personal storytelling, and boisterous Black barbershop-style debate, all woven through the lens of the week’s news and their intertwined lives. If you care about hip hop, Black media, New York culture, and hearing smart people crack each other up, you'll find yourself at home.

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Additional Highlights

• "Destiny’s Child" themes (food and otherwise) serve as a motif for community, nostalgia, and fun.
• The hosts’ vulnerability—about aging, money, and friendship—is often masked in humor, but adds emotional depth.
• Grown-up debates about money, priorities, and cultural relevance showcase the show’s evolving maturity, without sacrificing the banter.
• Industry recognition, both mainstream (Rolling Stone, Complex) and in hip hop (Nas x Premiere, De La Soul), center the pod’s place in cultural history.

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End of summary

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

Girl, gotta keep some level.

[A]

Now.

[C]

We gotta hit play.

[A]

Oh, y' all on today. Come on.

[D]

This said he got a mouthful of veneers and one real tooth.

[B]

That's how you stay grounded, yo. That's how you gonna get your real one tooth.

[D]

Think you get too highly rated to do this?

[B]

Yeah, yo, I'm here though, yo, look, yo, I'm about it bout it just.

[C]

In case they all fail. You got the one, right?

[B]

Nah, that's that old school, you know, crack the bottle with their teeth. He can't do that with the veneers. So you got to keep that one.

[A]

Real one for it. Audience, they're laughing at me because we were off air. Parks was dealing with something really serious and we was started having like a vulnerable conversation.

[C]

Serious pro tools. Not serious.

[A]

That started. That started with us on. On freeze. And then see that you got to be careful. But it wasn't funny then because we was being serious and vulnerable. That could have been funny. It was in a loving moment. We was love in space.

[B]

You went and jumped in the fire.

[A]

Duck, duck, goose.

[B]

It was fine over here.

[A]

It landed on me somehow, boss man, yo. Oh, my God. So, yes, they laughing at me, cuz I have one real tooth.

[B]

Can I ask why you kept the one? Why you do, like, what was the reason for the one?

[A]

No, I feel like if I tell y' all the truth, y' all start laughing some more.

[B]

We not going. Come on.

[D]

This is a safe space.

[B]

Yeah, we being vulnerable.

[C]

It's one of the safest spaces.

[D]

Yeah. Come on in, Joseph.

[A]

Honestly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I overshare on this bottle. I share too much of this. But honestly, when I went to the dentist, I thought that they was all done and I think she charged me, like they was all done too. But it wasn't until I went to get a cleansing cleaning. Cleaning. Yeah, that too.

[D]

I hope.

[B]

Spiritual craft.

[A]

I hope that was. Yeah, I went to get a cleaning and she slipped on. She told me, she said, you got one real one in the back. Yeah, it's like, wait, hold on, wait.

[C]

She owe you tooth.

[A]

Why would you do that?

[D]

Yeah, go get your tooth, man.

[A]

She owe you a tooth.

[C]

She owe you a tooth, man. She came up short.

[A]

So. Yeah, I got water in there. It'll leave eventually because I gotta go do that. Ish. Did at some point.

[C]

What an implant.

[B]

Wanna get your ass laser?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, I got one. Business.

[D]

Hi.

[C]

You gotta get implants on the. On a veneer?

[A]

No, I. I don't have one back here.

[B]

Oh, you got a missing. Yeah, yeah, I got one. I was supposed to get the implant. I just never did it.

[A]

But the way that she described it at the time, you just be gumming shit. That didn't sound like.

[B]

Nah, that don't sound like some you want to do. They drill. They gotta put the in there, then they gotta put the post and all that. I was like, yo, fam, I'm cool.

[A]

I don't be gumming shit. But the way they explain it, as you age, what gravity does to your sinuses, gums, and your jawline and how it affects things. You gotta get it.

[B]

You gotta go get it.

[A]

Got to get it.

[B]

It's going to you up. Yeah, it'll start. Your other teeth will start closing in. It'll your whole jawline up.

[A]

All right. This an entertainment show.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And your and PA needing your jawline, right? Why need your jawline?

[B]

I'm with you.

[A]

Where was that?

[B]

We not stopping. Pause.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

Me and Parks keep telling y', all, we not going to stop.

[D]

It's never going to stop. We just slowing it down, that's all.

[A]

We can't stop it today.

[B]

You pausing the pause.

[D]

Yeah, that's it.

[B]

Okay, I disagree.

[D]

We cutting in half. Cause it's been about 3 pause this morning. I ain't say nothing about.

[B]

Just let him go.

[D]

I just let him ride.

[C]

Pause.

[D]

See, it was a test.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

We're not mature yet.

[C]

No, I don't want to be.

[A]

Who called who today?

[B]

Yo, get out of here.

[A]

I'm asking a question.

[D]

Maybe blue boys, y' all do be coordinated, like, every day.

[A]

Y' all are twinning again.

[B]

No, we not.

[D]

Last episode, y' all had all your khakis.

[B]

I was twinning last episode I sat on beige.

[C]

Nah, but y' all have both had khaki.

[D]

Y' all never wear khakis. Y' all both had khakis on cargoes.

[B]

I never wear khakis.

[A]

Y' all will be. Y' all were dressed like the left side of the Motown Philly. Philly single cover. Like it was different variations of the college. And now today, y' all are back. Navy blued out is with the brand new is universities. Let's go. Ass is.

[D]

That's on the Site.

[A]

But we on day, right? Man, we don't bullshit.

[D]

You ain't got to take this.

[A]

This is. I mean somebody is killing these non stop too.

[B]

Boy is a fool.

[A]

Don't you like when you buy some work from somebody for a couple dollars just flip that into hundreds of thousands.

[D]

Stepped on that.

[A]

What? I do that all the time with this. Give him a little light. 75 7, 500. Oh man.

[C]

What is the coursework at Ish University?

[D]

That's what I was gonna ask.

[B]

Nobody's listening to your look good. Thank you, sir.

[A]

I like.

[D]

Are those for sale too? Are they out yet?

[C]

Nah, it's a tester.

[A]

You just come in weird.

[C]

You just testing it.

[B]

You look like you research, baby.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

No, I need a. I told you. I need a website person.

[D]

I got anybody.

[B]

Anybody, bro.

[D]

I got.

[A]

I got somebody.

[B]

I've known Mark a year. I just want y' all to know I've known Mark a year.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yo, dog, you know somebody do such and such.

[D]

I immediately do you have two feet.

[B]

Let me finish. I immediately shoot Mark a number, a name. Yo, tell them I sent you all of that.

[C]

I gotta come to Mark's defense because when I needed someone, he. He immediately.

[D]

That's making me even more tight.

[B]

Look out for the white man. Yo, if this call me and said, yo, you not. You got somebody to do X, I'd.

[D]

Be like, yeah, right.

[B]

Yo, I need a tree cut down. I need whatever. I'm Johnny on the spot. I'm getting tight. I've been waiting for this, cuz.

[C]

He don't do that for you.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

What a friend group.

[B]

I not asked me for nothing that I can refer somebody to him.

[C]

He had a tree thing.

[A]

Oh yeah, the bush.

[D]

Y' all fucking with me now.

[A]

That was crazy. Had. Come on. That was crazy. You think he had one? He cleared it up. Oh, man, I'm glad y' all brung this up on God. I'm not joking. I need you. No, for real. No, I said I'm not potting. I'm not Potter, yo. No, my seal on my bathroom shower that this little thing is going up. I ain't calling no plumbing for this, man. Come on, put the. Bring some glue.

[B]

You got a caulk gun in the trunk.

[A]

See, but you've elevated. So now you don't want to fucking seal the shower back up.

[D]

Oh, no, he got a guy for that. I was on the elevator with him early. He was telling somebody seal up a shower for him. Am I lying? Wasn't a bathtub or Something when we was on the elevator. What was it?

[A]

What was it?

[B]

One of my houses.

[A]

The.

[B]

The, the. The. The sewer line is backing up. Like I said, women be flushing down there that they don't supposedly.

[A]

They be putting all types of shit. Yo. Women are disgusting.

[B]

Be flushing that shit down.

[A]

Women are not all women, but the women that flush everything down the toilet deal with that.

[C]

Yo, I told y' all when my got fl. Arizona iced tea can down there.

[B]

Yo, that's.

[C]

I don't even know how that's possible.

[B]

I've seen toys. The last one of the last times, one of my shits got condoms wrapped up.

[A]

I don't think one time. I don't think, honestly, like, no. Like sexy. I don't think women know how toilets function.

[B]

They don't. They might not.

[A]

Yeah, they don't. Like, they'll take the whole toilet paper roll. Yeah. Facts and put it. Now I've got to go in there with my hand washcloth. Yeah. Oh, no diapers.

[C]

My wife done drops. I forgot it was like a shampoo or gel or some down there. She's like, I don't know what to do.

[B]

I gotta go get this out. Yeah, it ain't that they don't know. They just don't.

[C]

They don't.

[B]

Because it ain't. They know they gonna call one of.

[C]

Us and we gonna do it gladly.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Then my OCD kick in too. So if I get in the shower and start seeing all your hair balls.

[B]

Oh, no, that's one of the worst.

[C]

Things is cleared out that hair.

[A]

Oh, my Lord.

[C]

Throw up on the.

[A]

Dad. Oh, no. I'm not saying that. Anyways, shout out to the ladies out there, man. This is a show for the ladies.

[B]

That's right.

[D]

I sent you that person too.

[B]

Indeed.

[D]

I just texted you the website guy.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

There you go. Look what I had to do to.

[A]

Get the website that I've been asking.

[B]

For for a year.

[A]

Just be lying.

[D]

But how many times I had. I needed a dude to put a fence up in my house. I had to call you five times. And three, I had to pay full price from an American. It took so long.

[B]

Mark is lying.

[D]

Do you mean to show you that?

[B]

Yeah, show me, nigga. I needed an appraisal for my grandparents house that he came and looked at your grandparents. An appraisal issue estimate.

[A]

Excuse me? An estimate. If I find out you do appraisals. I'm sorry.

[B]

Hey, Mark. Mark.

[A]

Hey. We writing him up an estimate.

[C]

What?

[D]

Got you.

[B]

Got you an estimate.

[D]

Not an appraisal.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

How long you still waiting on it?

[B]

I never got it.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They just went to the white man and got overcharged.

[D]

How you feel about that, my brother? Especially as a 5 percenter like you. Got the devil just so you couldn't come back.

[B]

Yakub. Yakub. Yo.

[A]

Hey, Talk. Yeah, I got you.

[B]

Yeah, get us out of here.

[A]

We need a job.

[D]

Bro. You good, you good. Stick with me, you'll be all right.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[A]

Fuck, no. Oh, man.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Stupid. Yo, come on, man. Y' all know the vibe I'm on today. I was out last night on a Thursday night as a 45 year old.

[C]

I love that. I don't love that.

[A]

For me, I don't love it either. But I did it. I had a blast, too.

[C]

Yeah, it was a good time.

[A]

Had a good time.

[B]

Strip club this morning? Cause you don't leave till 12. All right. See, I'm just asking.

[A]

He been with me since he came in.

[D]

He been on fire, though.

[A]

Just asking you right now. I'm telling you.

[D]

Could tell 10 right now.

[A]

I could tell when something was in that PO Box. Something was in that PO Box, that box.

[E]

Where would I be?

[A]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Big Jersey, whole New York City, whole Brooklyn.

[D]

Atlanta.

[A]

I went to sing my heart out last night, boy.

[D]

Before you all my life.

[E]

So gone.

[D]

Over you, you, you.

[A]

New Monica.

[D]

G. So much time to find your favor I never lost my mind Drive past your house every night in an unmarked car Wonder where she had on.

[A]

Me to make you break my heart Share wherever you might be listening from everybody off work. Y' all know why I'm here. Some of y' all didn't know why I'm here.

[E]

Man.

[D]

What we about to do?

[B]

Get on now.

[E]

Think about calling me crazy.

[A]

You know you peep that lady.

[D]

When I turn and looked at you.

[A]

You tried to play it off But.

[D]

I could tell that you two were.

[B]

Friends.

[A]

Too nervous, she was looking like.

[D]

She was hurt like a memory had.

[E]

Some f. And I got confus I'm wondering myself.

[A]

You ain't no help Tell me how you to know each other so well?

[D]

Yo, they was in there last night.

[A]

They was in there. All right, man. We got a great show lined up for y' all today, man. I'm so excited to be here. Hey, this is not what I want.

[B]

Get out of here.

[A]

Yeah, man, don't play with me. Don't play with me. Come on, man, stop playing. I need a little bit of baby face up in this mix. I need some baby face up in this Mix. Shout out to all the parents out there listening. All the kids out there listening.

[D]

Yummy.

[A]

This is a family show. Family show. Everybody getting ready for Thanksgiving out there. Hey, they better stop playing with this lady. I'mma tell you that much. My girl knew the concert to be at with me. Boy, that was the right concert to get a mistake. Two step with a stranger. Hey, it almost stabbing my mistake. She pushes out of me. All right, man, we start the show. Let's get right into the proceedings this evening. Happy day this morning, huh?

[C]

Happy day LA day.

[A]

We'll get to that later.

[B]

We'll get to it.

[A]

Yes. Let's keep this applause going for the best show on turf.

[B]

What's that?

[A]

All right. What episode is this, man? 880. Welcome to episode 880. I had a blast in the 8 hundreds. Yeah, I had an absolute blast in the 8 hundreds of this pod. I think it goes down in history. The 800s have been superb. Welcome to episode 880 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered By Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. Y' all know the vibes. Y' all know me, man. I'm here. I'm at work. Still. Still happy to be here, you know? I mean, my guy Mark is here. Our good brother, Dr. Dark, Lamont Hill is here. Mona be here. She on Mona time. Y' all know the vibe. We know. Don't talk shit about it neither. Y' all shut up. I'm still riding for Mona. Big issues in the building. Y' all know. Y' all know the vibes. Mr. Thousand doors and up. Yes, sir. Mr. Turkey giveaway himself. Huh? Big freeze is here. Down Elo sneaks matching the fit. You can tell his girl did a good job on this one. He looks amazing. He looks absolutely stunning.

[C]

He's getting fed up with shades.

[B]

No, I'm not.

[A]

He wants his credit. There's no shame in your girl dressing you.

[C]

Not at all.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

My girl give me a little look when I do put something stupid on. There's a lot, too. There's nothing wrong with it. They make us better.

[C]

They do.

[B]

I didn't say a word, bro.

[A]

Yeah, but say they make you better.

[B]

My baby company.

[A]

Yeah, there you go. There you go.

[B]

We compliment each other.

[A]

Get it right? Big Parks is in the building.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Po is here. My man Po, is he trying not to tell us about what happened with him and that thick black girl, but off air, I made him. I made him tell us true. Corey is here. Corey tried to step out and not tell us about what happened with him and his little girlfriend, too. But I got. I got to the bottom of it. I did. Yeah. Yeah. I got to the bottom of it.

[B]

Of it.

[A]

Edith is here, and Kino is here. Yep. Still going strong. They talking about, hey, huh, y' all, pod wife commenters. Keno and Edith's going stronger than ever. Erickson is here. Tanner Saana here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? How y' all feeling? What's poppin? What's poppin? What's poppin?

[C]

I'm excellent.

[D]

Feeling great, man. No complaints.

[C]

I don't like going out on school night, but it was a good time last night.

[A]

I don't normally either, but it was a choice to be made. Monica and Brandi were in Jersey on Friday. Friday's a work day for me. I also don't mind shows at the Barclay. I really enjoy. I really enjoy that. So we went out, we stepped out. We did Me, my baby Parks, rem, Kino, E, Imani, whole crew. We went out there. Really good show. It was.

[C]

It was a really good show.

[B]

I'm with you, Bar.

[C]

What?

[D]

I'm having fomo. I'm just jealous.

[B]

I want to be there.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why I'm with you.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Why don't y' all go?

[D]

I had to teach.

[C]

Ah, kids.

[A]

I invited them both. Them kids is why we couldn't go. Them kids.

[D]

I had child care either. I probably would have canceled class, but I had. It was like the combo. I was like, man, I ain't got.

[C]

No excuse y' all going to over here.

[D]

I'mma try and sneak out tonight.

[A]

No.

[D]

I was say, depending what time we are, they'll be able to catch you.

[A]

You'll be all be able to catch.

[B]

A portion, catch a let out if.

[A]

You go on tonight. You know what I mean? Hey, the let out over there might.

[D]

Be anyway, I get to hit a boy's mind.

[A]

I had a really, really, really good time at that show. Money Long opened up body too.

[C]

She bodied it.

[A]

Money Long was great. Y' all getting my show commentary. I don't give a about y' all. Shout out to y' all if y' all went to that show. If you haven't, try to catch it when it's in your city. Money Long was amazing. That dulu record, record is phenomenal.

[C]

Fire. Fire.

[A]

It's absolutely phenomenal when you are able to sing and you got one of those records and you just there with a mic and a piano. And the whole place is just listening. We might not know the song, but she's taking off. That record was phenomenal. Her backup dancers. Because Money. Money Long's a singer.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So she gonna stand there and give you vocals to death.

[C]

Facts.

[A]

But you know, on the show they try to tell you to have some shit going on. So she had two dudes up there with. With tuxedos on.

[C]

Well, until the robe and the Tim's. That was a little weird for me.

[A]

But yeah, she had two backup. I mean, background dancers, and they were dancing. My thing is, I don't think Money Long has like, songs that require two dudes in tuxes to dance. So it's like I'm the Lou. And they were like.

[B]

Oh, okay. Interpretive dance.

[A]

Thinking they was like doing all types of.

[B]

We got the sign language person over there.

[C]

It was like that.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Yeah. So that was absolutely hilarious. But Money Long was great. I had no idea I was opening up at this show.

[C]

Me either. Me either.

[A]

I didn't know. And then after that, after that, now.

[C]

I can't believe what you said to me.

[B]

Well, what'd he say?

[A]

Be. Be clear. Be clear. Hold up now. Hold up. Let's not get crazy. This is now. This is now a Kelly. I am now officially a Kelly.

[C]

Rol.

[A]

Stan Page. Ben.

[C]

Ben.

[A]

Why wasn't you before? Yeah, I'm so dumb.

[C]

She's one of the most beautiful people ever. Ever. And amazing artist, by the way.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

But fire.

[C]

But yeah.

[A]

And dog. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Have I been just under arrest? Maybe?

[C]

Yes. I mean, it's tough.

[A]

What is going. I don't. I'm. I'm confused.

[B]

This long time.

[A]

I don't understand how I'm just putting two and two together. That Kelly Rowland is a goddess amongst mortals.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[A]

Why didn't I know that?

[B]

Beyonce.

[C]

So, yeah, she was unfortunately in a group of Beyonce.

[B]

Beyonce. So. Papa, I'm telling you, that's really what it is. She's different, B. She is this skin.

[A]

Don't say that again today though, bro.

[B]

I'm telling you.

[A]

Because I remember that whole. And we're not doing the pit woman against. But I remember back in the day, the whole hey, Beyonce, Kelly discussion. I never took part in it, but I understood. I never really cared about it, honestly. Like, they. They were young as grown women. You take Beyonce, I take Beyonce out of the conversation with Jay Z. Well, Kelly's married too, right?

[C]

But Kelly, she's stunning.

[B]

Smoke.

[C]

Stunning.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did everybody notice?

[D]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, Mona.

[E]

Hi.

[C]

Welcome.

[D]

Hey, Mona.

[A]

Hey, Phelps. What's up? All right, well, I'm an idiot then. Yeah. So Kelly Rowland comes out looking every bit of like everything. I work out three times a day.

[B]

Shea butter. Like the shea butter smok you can look at.

[A]

I need bread and celery. I eat what's right. I don't. I don't eat meat. She looked like her pores were just oozing like some type of honey. Destiny's oud.

[C]

I was shocked.

[A]

Word. No, I promise you. But I'm like, okay. Kelly looks too good for me to stare and amaze me. I already done tapped my girl and say, yo, what the the is going on up there, you dumbass. So. No, that's not true.

[B]

You didn't do that during Kelly.

[C]

I said, oh, you did. You did. I said, I'm not leaving. What if she needs me?

[A]

I'm right here.

[C]

She's like 20ft away. She might need me for something. I'm staying right here.

[A]

I'm catching it.

[C]

I caught a couple eye contacts. I was, I was. I was butterflies. You was eye chatting with Kelly? Yeah, I'm. Why she's 10ft away from us.

[A]

I was there trying to throw my eyeballs on the stage.

[D]

I was trying to take them out my sockets.

[B]

Are you crazy?

[A]

Kelly Rolling. But my brain is saying, okay, I know Kelly's songs, but I need to be here for Brandi and Monica. And we went to go get popcorn and all that. But I'm such a hungry heathen. But by the end of money long set, my popcorn was going to. And I had four bags of popcorn. I so embarrass my girl. When we are out eating. I eat like my dad and my dad eat like he never ate.

[C]

You went to the.

[D]

The little.

[C]

The little Amex shop, came back with your arms full. They stopped him at the door. I thought he was shoplifting. I didn't know what the was going on.

[A]

Parks was there for all the te. All right, so all right. It. I'm just telling. Yeah, tell it all.

[E]

I'm selling old. How big are the bags?

[C]

Grocery size popcorn.

[E]

Family size popcorn bag. How big is the bag?

[C]

They're big bags.

[A]

No, they were big bags.

[E]

Four big bags.

[A]

No. Well, my girl had the box that we get from the garden. I had too big of the flavored. The flavored popcorn. This.

[B]

I'm such a kid.

[A]

But anyway, that's not important, right? That's how we even bumped into parts. Cuz when we was going in, we said, hold up, we need to go get some popcorn and drinks too. We come back out now, me and my girl standing in line to get drinks. This is before Parks comes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We are sandwiched between two of the most. Let me not do that. Two people from Brooklyn. One was a couple in front of us. Behind us was a couple. They both were shocked that Joe Budden was in this line. They were like, yo, go, go, Skip. I said, no, I'm a man of the people. Right.

[C]

As you always are.

[A]

My girl goes to see what's on the drink menu up there so she's. She can get her drink. Three, try to buy her a drink. I'm sandwiched in the ghetto sandwich. But yeah, cuz I don't know why she bought a ship. Anyway, so she comes back and cool. Now the couple in front of us, the girl who. They already asked me for pictures. I told, chill, chill, chill. We'll do it later. We'll do the sneak selfie. They must have dropped $60. But then the line moved. So the girl behind me looked down and said, hey, is this y'?

[E]

All?

[A]

I said, that's cash. No, no, no, it's. No, it's not mine.

[C]

Yeah, just a quick side note, they had a sign that said they have reverse ATMs. It's the first time I've ever seen this.

[A]

What is that?

[C]

Because it was. It said, this is a cash free venue. Barclays. But we have a reverse ATM where I guess you put your cash in and get a car.

[B]

Get a car.

[C]

Anyway, back to your story.

[D]

I never seen that before.

[E]

I heard of that before 2025.

[A]

That's interesting. Well, anyway, so now they about to fight over this money, but I helped to bring some peace to that. And then we saw parks, and then we got Parks, and then they had a American Express store. So I went in there and took everything I could, but I didn't get any hot dogs.

[C]

So during the.

[A]

So I took all this popcorn. I went back to my seat during the Money Long set, and I ate all this. I'm talking about my girl looking. Looking sexy as good beer that I'm.

[D]

Like.

[A]

I'm putting the bag to face, right? And now Money Long is gone. And now all of the popcorn is gone. It's a 20 dude section in front of us. Yeah. Of gay dudes. Yeah. But you would have to look at them to see. It was like the Billy. It was like the Beat it video. Like when the games came out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like you would have had to really look just to know. You wouldn't have known. I wasn't paying him no mind. I was chilling. Here come my girl playing around on these pods. Here she go, yo, the brolic gay dude is on you, is on your body and won't get off. I'm like, yo, shall they stop playing with me? Like, for real, Like, I'm not playing with you. With you.

[B]

I like your tattoo.

[A]

She said, no, no, I'm serious.

[C]

What's that would mean?

[D]

I get you.

[A]

He don't give a. That's disgusting. She said, he don't give a. And I'm sitting right here. He dead. Ass is like, oh, y. I said, shade. She said, so then I peeked to the right. Man, that man. That was like. He was looking at me, yo, I hated that. She was right.

[D]

That nigga was licking his lips at.

[A]

Yo, dog, that nigga was in my A grill.

[C]

So Joe Button says, you know, I'm going to go to the store and get some glizzes.

[A]

Oh, most likely.

[E]

Maybe he's just.

[D]

I didn't put the.

[A]

I didn't think of that.

[B]

Oh, you tried to do the girl walk to the bathroom move.

[C]

Don't let him play you like that.

[D]

Yo, it's your 20.

[A]

It's a blowout.

[B]

He gets a blowout.

[D]

At this point, he's on fire.

[A]

He's on fire. Why you funny today? Anyway, so I. I don't put that together. I go and get hot dogs during. Kelly Roland said, I'm like Kelly Rowland. I like her songs, but I figured she ain't gonna be out there that long. She open it, boy. By the time I got to that concession stand, it was hit after hit. I'm talking about Destiny's Child. She was wild enough, bodied it, too, man. So now I rushed back down there. Yeah, eat my glizzies.

[C]

He gets a big tray. That was like. I looked over. Look, yo, Joe's on some boy. He better be in that gym tomorrow. But, yeah, four of them.

[A]

And then by the time I got back, I did not have four.

[D]

No.

[B]

How many glizzies you have on the.

[A]

No, I didn't have four Gl.

[E]

How many?

[A]

Two. I always get two. I don't know.

[D]

How big were these glies? Normal size.

[A]

I'm not doing this with y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

You hating the glizzy.

[D]

Looking at muscles like, right, dude Looking at him right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's crazy.

[A]

Jumbo glizzy liar. Yo, they have good. Anyway, Kelly Rowland was out there for a good amount of time still. By the time I. I sat down and she just put on an absolute clinic and controlling the Stage singing, Dancing Bucks.

[B]

It was. It was like legs, everything jumping off of this lady. Yeah, yeah, she's fire, bro.

[A]

Yeah, she's firefighter.

[B]

She is. She's highly underrated. Like, she's one of them.

[E]

I think she's a little underrated in the public.

[B]

Yeah. They don't care. She's well deserved.

[A]

So then she shouts out, out this Destiny's Child super fan that apparently has been to every show since the beginning, But I'm behind him, so I'm trying to look cool.

[C]

I was like, you should get a shout out, Joe. It didn't come.

[A]

You know what's funny? Everybody that got on that stage last night, I said, oh, okay. I know Tyrese is crazy.

[C]

That Tyrese was a great.

[A]

That was the worst outfit in the world. Tyrese, never do that again. Never do that again. But anyway, so the Destiny Child super fan is now, like, I don't know if you're trying to be funny or what. He said, joe, I thought Kelly was gonna bring you up to do. Make you want to stay, because I'm on her first album. Oh. Only he knows that.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[A]

There's nobody in the world that knows that.

[C]

But you're on a record with this woman, and you just discovered her.

[A]

Crazy.

[D]

What?

[A]

Kelly Rowland is the finest woman on earth.

[B]

She is level one, bro.

[A]

Like, yeah, I'm gonna stop glazing. But, Kel, rolling is defined.

[B]

It looked like glaze on yo. Her Everything. My.

[C]

Yeah, respect, please.

[A]

I know she's married.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, she's married.

[B]

She's fire, bro. You know?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, she's fine.

[A]

Wow. Wow. And then Brandy and Monica came out together. The boy is mine. And then they did the scissor Kendrick battle. Yeah. Versus thing.

[D]

They should have did that.

[A]

That must be a new trend for these artists to make the most of the set time. Right?

[C]

I think it's to get people to stay in their seat.

[B]

That part, too.

[C]

Because if.

[A]

If.

[C]

Yeah, respectfully. I mean, both the Kendrick and. And at this show, I probably would have went at someone's set if I would have not known they're coming right back out.

[B]

Or it's to get people to not leave, period.

[C]

That's what I mean.

[B]

That's what you say. Okay. I thought you were saying, like, you.

[A]

Just finished saying it.

[B]

Leave the venue.

[A]

So they were doing the back and.

[B]

Forth thing, which was.

[A]

I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of that.

[C]

I don't love it.

[A]

I don't. I don't love that.

[C]

I get it. But I Don't love it especially.

[B]

I would love it with them. I don't love it when it's too totally different. Like, again, Kendrick, Scissor.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, if I'm there for Kendrick.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now I gotta kind of sit through scissor to get Kendrick again.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But Brandy and Monica, they make very similar music. So it's like. If I like similar. I know it's levels, but I'm. There's. They're more similar than. Than a rapper and a singer.

[C]

That's true. That's true.

[B]

That's all I'm saying.

[E]

True.

[A]

Well, they brought Sierra out. She absolutely killed it. Yeah, she also.

[E]

She always is.

[B]

She also is a bachelor.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Like the women that work out, Yo.

[C]

Yeah, that works.

[A]

Who does something like, with biceps?

[B]

No, you see. No, you see that little cut right here in the. In the quad?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You be like all that.

[C]

A little bit of art, you know, they're not diesel. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, and they get some weird and be sexy in ways that the big just can't like. Sorry. Big. They do. Anyway, so Tyrese, Sierra, he was absolutely amazing in the worst outfit you ever saw.

[C]

Oh, my God. He brought the patch. Mina back, but it was like gold. And it was like built into the. The tuxedo suit. It was. It was a mess.

[E]

He gave out flowers.

[C]

He did.

[A]

He did give out flowers.

[C]

He smoked it, though.

[D]

No.

[A]

He killed.

[B]

No, Tyrese.

[D]

Tyrese.

[A]

Come on, man. Tyrese is. We can say what we want about him. Tyrese, where was all of these black aunties? Like, we talking our age and. And like, it was a. It was a black. It was a feeling in there with that crowd. 90s, early 2000s. We know this music. So Tyrese makes sense. Ciara makes sense. And Sierra, if you know that set, her set is crazy.

[B]

She got one too. Her set is still get busy. She dancing and all like.

[A]

Oh, my.

[E]

She's such a good dancer.

[A]

She kills.

[B]

Sierra, don't play Freeze, man.

[D]

We might have to slide through Jersey tonight. They in Jersey tonight.

[A]

I can see why Russell Wilson want to get.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It made sense. I go out there and throw a bunch in type too.

[C]

And I see whether you're obnoxious on. On social media.

[D]

They really happy. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, that's great. That ultra wealthy, good skin, good partner con. That looks good.

[C]

And she had the nice. Nice fit.

[A]

The outfit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, no stress in your face. Oh, my nutritionist. You got a trainer that comes to the house?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What are you talking about?

[A]

About? Yeah, that's how I want to be at 55 more years of. I'll try to get Monica brought Max B out.

[C]

That was odd.

[E]

I like.

[C]

I mean, salute to Max B. Welcome home.

[D]

Welcome home.

[C]

It was a. In the scheme of the show, it was a little bit of a left.

[D]

I was going to ask because everything y' all described didn't feel like Max B was up next. I heard. I heard Tyrese. I heard. You know, let me shut the up.

[E]

I feel like that's how.

[D]

I just wasn't what I was expecting.

[A]

I'm so glad that I know Mark bot down now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

N buddy, you say you up, you do it. Yeah.

[E]

I mean, that's on brand for Monica, though. Like, Monica holding down c murder with the jail. She's like that. She with like. She's like that. So she's fresh out. I could see her doing it for sure.

[C]

I also just. I don't know what song he did, but he should done like he did Sexy Love.

[D]

So you're not in a group chat.

[E]

That's like my only.

[B]

I knew you was one of your song. I knew one of y only song.

[E]

I know about that, man.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Let me tell you why he said that, Marcus being a.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

I accidentally yesterday put Sexy Love the record in the. In the JBP group chat.

[E]

I seen it.

[B]

It was a mistake because you wanted.

[D]

To put the remix.

[B]

No. Max's peoples hit me and said, yo, we need. We know you got it. We need a no DJ version of Sexy Love because he's performing it at the Barclays tonight. Can you send it? So I'm like, all right, cool.

[A]

You know how much of a geek you gotta be for a. That was arrested for 30 years. We know you come out and know that you got.

[E]

Listen on it is so good.

[D]

Oh, that's why I was wonder why you put it.

[B]

Yeah, And I was like, I'm on the phone. I'm like, yo, I'm sending it right now. Like, oh, I put this in a JBP group chat. My bad.

[D]

Hold up.

[E]

So is that the only existing DJ version?

[D]

Look.

[E]

Yeah, now we all have it.

[A]

He would suck his own dick if he could. Of course it is. Of course. That's the only.

[D]

I made it.

[A]

I took the DJs off this breeze. Don't play that.

[B]

Shout out to them.

[A]

Monica, I thought was going to bring out Max B. Dap him wave. Put his hand in there like this. Brooklyn, make some noise. Max is ho. Oh, and she did that. And then I thought he would walk to the back. He didn't he took a mic, walked to the front of the stage and performed. I didn't quite get that. I didn't understand that.

[C]

I get it. But again, I just. Not this show. It was a little bit.

[A]

I understand it for him. He just coming home. You want all the visibility. Him and his team could get them there. And people are happy to see Max.

[B]

And it's a local player pop. Yeah, yeah, it's a local crowd pop. Like. Like Max just came home.

[D]

That makes sense.

[B]

So, no, that's what a local crowd pop means. Like you bring out the.

[A]

The.

[B]

The hometown hero or. Or whoever's known for this area and the crowd is going to go crazy.

[A]

This is New York.

[B]

He just came home.

[A]

Yeah, he performed. I don't think that the crowd.

[B]

The crowd. Ain't that a crowd?

[A]

The crowd wasn't there.

[C]

That's all. That's all.

[B]

The crowd's not.

[A]

That's the crowd.

[B]

That's not the crowd.

[E]

I did see some guys run to the front. Like, look. Little group of them. They were excited.

[D]

Was it 20 brolic dudes?

[E]

No.

[C]

Fat Joe came up while you were eating the glizzies. I thought that was ironic.

[A]

I'll never sit next to. Yeah, Fat. Fat Joe came out. He. He did great. And now. Might as well get to the te. Then they said that something happened to J. Yeah. Backstage. Then that. That story went out.

[B]

It was backstage.

[D]

The report was two separate incidents.

[B]

Oh, damn. Ja had a bad.

[A]

It was backstage. And if people said it was at say less because Tasha K. Said it was at say less. And then Ja Rule hit Tasha K. On Twitter to say what you're saying didn't happen. They tried to jump me backstage, but I'm fine. And then she replied back to him and said, no, I got the real story. My people was there, got the video. They saw you. Yo, you people that fucking are not celebrities and have no celebrity ties. You niggas in Wichita somewhere shut the fuck up sometimes on matters. Who thought that Tasha K. Had the inside scoop to what happened to Ja Rule?

[B]

You would be surprised.

[D]

She didn't because Ja posted. Yeah, I'm looking at him right now, drinking coffee with a clean face. Cause initially, the report was. It was real bad.

[A]

Her words.

[B]

It was very bad.

[D]

Right. And then this morning, she said it was her team that was there and she was halfway asleep last night when she got the text.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

And if there's one establishment this week in New York that's not letting nobody get jumped in front of there, it's say less.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Tasha K, mind your. Where's she from again? I don't know. Somewhere. But like one of them other Florida towns. Not the one. Don't try to Florida me to death. I hate when niggas do that. No, she from one of them little small bubble tuck towns in Florida. Stay over there and mind your business. Ja's all right. Thank God. Indeed, thank God. Ja's all right. I personally don't think that that was the show for Ja Rule to be at either.

[C]

Nah, Ja would have killed everything.

[B]

Ja would have killed that Joe. He got records that the aunties love.

[E]

I think he made sense to Fat Joe. He made more sense than Fat Joe than me.

[B]

I agree with that. Yeah.

[E]

I was like. When I seen Fat Joe, I'm like, what? Big ass boots?

[A]

Well, Monica has. Is managed by Ant, who is very close to fifth.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Oh, got you. I'm just talking about musically.

[C]

Yeah, musically, it would.

[B]

Musically, Ja would have came out and hit him with three or four bangers in a row and the crowd would have went nuts.

[A]

Ja Rule can come out damn near anywhere.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That is musically, it's our job to know where we going to.

[B]

No, that's physically, yeah. No, I'm just saying from.

[A]

It's musically.

[B]

I'm not disagreeing. I'm just talking about from a musical standpoint. Job would have came out. The crowd would have went absolutely apeshit.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

And the last person that needed. I'll wrap this up. The last person that needed this. This melee on their jacket was Max. For real?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Max name got all up in this. I don't. I don't, I don't. I'm pretty sure that had absolutely nothing to do with Max.

[B]

He put a Twitter on Twitter saying.

[A]

Please keep all negative vibes away from me. We on positive grown energy. I believe that. Even though that's what people say when they do too. But I believe it from Max. I believe it for Max, who just came on we. Not a week later. That would be the. Wouldn't be wise. I don't think that happened. Shout out to Max B. Shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Ja Rule. Everybody that performed last night, it was an amazing show. Real good time in Brooklyn. Brooklyn, New Jersey. Well, it happened last night. New Jersey. I'm sure you got a treat. For sure. I'm sure you got a treat. Really good show. That's all I got on the show. Sorry to hog the mic.

[C]

That was necessary.

[D]

Can we talk about some other big news?

[B]

What's up?

[D]

Rolling Stone?

[A]

Yeah. Huh?

[D]

Rolling Stone.

[A]

I Don't know how we thought we.

[D]

Was gonna skip past that. We done did an intro. We done talked about all this other shit. You were mentioning Rolling Stone as one of the most influential people on the Internet, right?

[E]

No, in the picture.

[D]

What's the cr. I messed up, Joe. What's the proper title?

[C]

Voice.

[D]

The voice that you're a. Yo, I am not. You walk right into that. Go ahead.

[A]

Let me. I had to pull it up. I don't. I don't know.

[D]

On your Instagram, it was the most.

[A]

Let me see what it was. Notice.

[B]

No, you just notice by heart. You got to pull it up here.

[E]

It's a really nice article.

[A]

Voices of the year. I think that's what it was. I think it was 15 people of the most important voices of 20, 25 for most powerful.

[B]

They did them in order.

[A]

No, it was not order. It was just. You made the list. You made list.

[C]

Can we do a round of applause?

[D]

Yes. Can I read just a little bit? So the subhead is. As the Joe Button podcast enters its 10th year, the rapper turned media mogul opens up about building a network on his own terms, clashing with co hosts, and walking away from Spotify. That's pretty big, man.

[A]

Thank you, Mark.

[D]

When they care about your biography, that says a lot.

[A]

They did a real good job. They did. I know y' all are here for the jokes. They did do a really good job on. On that entire piece.

[D]

Yeah. And thank you for shouting us out.

[A]

For sure. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, Today, he and his name was in there.

[D]

Yeah. Today he and his podcast co host, who currently included Dude Queen's Flip. Glad he was first. Mona Love.

[E]

That's me.

[D]

Ice.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Ish Parks.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

And Mark Lamont Hill.

[E]

Holding it down, boy.

[B]

Your name Mona Love?

[E]

That's. People call me that with my name on it. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. That's everybody.

[E]

Yeah. And the pictures were nice. You look cute.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

That was fire.

[C]

I was gonna be. I'm starting with a fight, huh? Yeah.

[D]

Thank you, Joe. We really appreciate it. Yes. It really meant a lot.

[A]

Shout out to everybody who made that list, though. I don't have the list. At some point, we'll pull it up.

[D]

Who are some other people on there, though? Like, anybody we could think of. I only saw yours.

[E]

I didn't notice the others. I just looked at Joyce.

[A]

Thanks. You got well it. Go pull up the list. Big friends.

[B]

I'm trying to find it.

[E]

It was well written. I really liked it. Rolling Stone be done.

[A]

It was me. Rihanna. Yeah. Who else? A few voices of the year. Yeah. There you go. Big. Hey, drop. Hey, drop a gym on us.

[C]

He doesn't. He doesn't know that reference.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

You don't know that.

[B]

Tired of you.

[A]

All right, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. You got you good.

[B]

I'm trying to pull it out.

[A]

Millions of people.

[B]

It's time to search and then find the right one. All right, here's a few voices.

[A]

Oh, come on.

[C]

Look at the squad.

[A]

You.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Got it. Lady Gaga, Bad Bunny, the Clips.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Come on, man.

[B]

Cole Escola, Ryan Coogler, FKA Twigs.

[A]

Ryan.

[B]

Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg. Kyle G. Mark Moran and Mark Mar. Mar. And Rachel Sanat. That's how you pronounce it?

[A]

That's the crew. That's a good crew. That's a good list to be on.

[D]

Wow, that's impressive. How does it feel to be on a list with like, people like Mark Marin and Bad Bunny?

[A]

Oh, it feels awesome, man. It feels awesome. I'm humbled. I'm honored. Like I. Like I said in my caption on Instagram, I'm sure you saw it, but no. Shout out to Rolling Stone for. For. For the recognition. Thank. Thank you. And we'll continue to work, so hopefully we can be on that list next year.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

I love it. It's awesome, man. Go Clips. Go Clips. Go Clips. Go Clips.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

Anytime I'm in the same space as the Clips. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Oh, yeah. And Gaga. I got Gogs. How could I forget? Gogs. Gogs, Gogs.

[B]

Trey Parker and Matt Stone.

[A]

South Parkland.

[B]

Pardon me.

[A]

Yeah, the Boys. That sound like a list of them come.

[B]

Yeah. A hell of a year, man.

[A]

It's a good list, man.

[D]

Thank God for dei.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

It'S crazy. He trying to walk right there too. Ain't nobody going for that.

[E]

I made a list too, fellas.

[A]

A list.

[E]

You make complex. Top 25 people. Funniest people on the Internet, huh?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Moan of love, let's go. Deserved, huh?

[D]

That is well deserved. For real.

[B]

Yeah, cuz, you. Hilarious. Who else was up?

[E]

I appreciate that. On the list.

[C]

Drew one, right?

[A]

Drew?

[E]

He was number one. Yeah, cuz I saw the top ten. I thought that was it. I. That's why I didn't realize, cuz some of the people I've never heard of.

[B]

You were top 10?

[E]

No, I'm 21. I'm 4. I'm download, The rest of the world and complexes. You know, it's complex. So. But yeah, Juicy's number one one. Lou Ratchet is on it. Lou Young. I love Lou Young. He funny as.

[A]

Lou Young is hilarious.

[E]

He's so funny.

[A]

What number was he? Lou Young is really funny.

[E]

I don't remember. Somebody look it up.

[A]

Above you.

[E]

Bring my phone to. Yeah, way above me. It was a little. The list was a little like. But it was. It was a good list. But some of the people I didn't.

[A]

We thank you, complex.

[E]

We thank you complex.

[A]

So appreciative to be recognized. I felt so good by you. Shout out to everybody who made that big or small.

[E]

Everybody on there just deserve it.

[A]

Yo, Mona is such a hood booger. Yo, Mona's.

[E]

That's about to go the wrong way with that.

[D]

Mona has made a name for herself for calling it how she sees it. Whether in her new role with the Joe Button podcast, with her sketch character work, or in her podcast from something something media, one thing stays consistent. Mona is 100%. 100% of the time.

[A]

The media nigga still get mentioned with me.

[D]

Me.

[A]

All right, all right. I'll fix it. Fix. I'll call.

[B]

That won't happen again. Yeah, you going get that type.

[E]

They don't believe it till you show them.

[A]

You be giving them the heat. You be g. They be having heat. I'm gl. Be going anyway. Shout out to Complex. Yeah, shout out to Complex. Shout out to Rolling Stone. Y' all made any list?

[D]

Yeah, I made the Route 100 this week.

[C]

The who?

[D]

100 most influential black people in America.

[A]

Oh, damn. God damn. Damn.

[B]

All right.

[A]

God damn. God damn. I'll be careful what I ask.

[D]

Try to be funny, asshole.

[A]

The funny is I was really about to diss you, and then he popped up. Yeah. Come on. House building list. Come on. What is you been.

[B]

Come on. I don't want to be on nobody.

[D]

The Bobbi Latitude politician right here.

[B]

He ain't trying to be on no list.

[C]

Dean's list. You know what I mean?

[A]

It's university. What do y' all care about? What do you not care about? What's important, what's not important? I got all the time in the world. It will be a long work day. Forgot to tell. After you. You just got here.

[D]

Well, since we talking about lists, Tyler is Apple's 2025 Artist of the year year.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[C]

Tyler the creator.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. Salute to him. Awesome.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This we. No, no, no.

[A]

That's awesome.

[D]

Yeah, I think it's great.

[C]

He did drop two. Well, one was technically last year, but kind of carried over.

[B]

He dropped it again this Year anyway, so.

[C]

Oh, that's true. It's a deluxe. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So two great projects.

[D]

I was excited to see him shouted out. I was. Sometimes they give it to like the artists who I don't necessarily think should get it. So I was very happy to see him get it.

[C]

I'm surprised it wasn't Bad Bunny being tied in with. With the super bowl. And he had the best album of the year.

[B]

He had the best year artist. Artist wise to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I wouldn't disagree with Bad Bunny. I. I was. I'm always happy for Tyler, but Bad Bunny probably would have been my choice. But I'm happy to see Tyler win it same.

[B]

Congrats, Tyler.

[C]

Congrats to Tyler.

[A]

While we are semi on music Burner Boy for Dodo of the year, right?

[B]

Y.

[A]

What he do?

[B]

God, why would he do.

[A]

Oh, let's see here.

[B]

I would he kick.

[A]

Oh, all right.

[B]

Go ahead, Go ahead. So apparently there was a fan that was. He said was asleep in one of the front rows at his show.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So he stopped the show. And I'm not gonna continue until this person's removed outta here.

[A]

Oh. Burna Boy has had quite a few incidents on a stage where he bugs out on a fan or somebody working or storms off the show completely. Ever since somebody threw something at him while he was on stage.

[B]

I remember.

[A]

So the first few times you understand it, it's paranoia. It's security breach. You got people throwing up here last night. They wouldn't let me bring my water bottle. The rules that the Barclay in the garden can't bring your cap to your.

[B]

Take the top off. Yeah.

[A]

I argue that lady down. I hate having to tell people I'm famous. I don't like having to do that. But sometimes it's called for over the smallest things too, like a water cap. But anyway, so Burna Boy, I'm not doing my show until him and her get out. And then he goes on a live stream and says, I don't give a. I don't. I don't want no broke fans. I ain't looking to have broke fans.

[B]

Well, wait, cuz first when that happens, the video goes out and the. The young lady that was sleeping addressed it. She's like, hey, that's me. I was going through something. I had like. Like a family member or something. She was like, I'm going through it. I came to the show to hope I could feel a little bit better. So it looks even worse on his part. And then him. His response is still on timing.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you Defend the timing with I am not forcing anybody to be my fan. I am not looking for broke fans. Why he thought that would go over well, I'm not quite sure.

[B]

No, no. It's more no. So you his response? I understand the agenda against me, and I came to terms with it a long time ago. So my skin is bulletproof at this point. I wasn't going to address this, but if you make the pilot uncomfortable on the plane that you bought the ticket for, you will be deborted or arrested as soon as you land. You pay school fees, but you will be kicked out of class if you make it uncomfortable for the teacher to do his job. My shows have people who have beaten cancer or overcame something very serious, et cetera. And none of them have ever seen slept. I leave my st. My soul on stage. I get on, even if it's only 10 people in attendance. And I will gladly be canceled if we are now in a world where you could treat me like a stripper, slap me my. Slap my ass, and tell me to keep dancing because you threw $100 at me.

[E]

I have a question to you a performer. If you right. Yeah. If you were rapping right middle of your Joe Button Hayes, you giving it your all. You came out of three shirts.

[B]

Shirts.

[E]

And you look up and the is sleeping. Does that bother you?

[A]

I mean, it probably would bother me.

[E]

Yeah. I couldn't imagine somebody sleeping through my set.

[B]

Okay, but let me.

[E]

I didn't hear that part. I never heard sleep. I just heard broke. That's why I was confused.

[B]

Now, if I'm. If you're performing because y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Y' all performers and you got a packed house here. So let's say you got, I don't know, 5,000, what you gonna up the show for the other 4,000 plus, because he sleep.

[E]

Well, if you. In my view, you already up my show. So if me, I'm gonna wake you up. That's what I'm gonna do.

[D]

I stop when I'm.

[E]

I'm gonna wake you up.

[D]

I do the same thing. Because first of all, if you're in my eyesight, that's all. I can't think of another 4,000 people but you. I'll be like, I. As in my situation, I tell them to wake up. Be like, yo, wake my man. I embarrassed somebody. Be like, somebody wake my man up right there. Because it throws me me off.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. That's kind of crazy to me.

[B]

I think, yo, that person could be narcoleptic.

[C]

Yeah. I would be more worried about the Health.

[B]

Other things going on with that particular person. One. But number two, they paid for their seat. They're entitled to do what they want, long as they not throwing nothing or interrupt.

[A]

If your safety is. Is not in jeopardy, then.

[C]

And their safety or the other patrons.

[A]

Honestly, when it comes to. To music, because y' all all speak in music land, if somebody look like they sleep or not enjoying themselves, then it's my job to turn it up.

[B]

I was about to say that like, even as a comedian, if you are a comedian and somebody fell asleep on your set, that's on you be funnier. You get what I'm saying? I'm just saying.

[D]

I'm just.

[E]

I'm just saying from a.

[B]

From a.

[A]

From a.

[E]

Me as a performer. Because clearly we all three have different. It's like the immediate thing I'm going to do is crack a joke on you because, you see, I'm not going to think at all, oh, this might be diabetic, narcoleptic. I don't give a.

[A]

But that's waking him up.

[D]

But that's waking him up, right?

[B]

Yo, wait. This little dusty month.

[E]

I'm gonna crack a joke. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna. So I hope they didn't get confused. The same thing Mark said. It's going to be funny because I'm a convenience. I'm cracking joke. Yeah, but.

[B]

So you could do that by. And still be in and. Yeah, so you're still entertaining. There you go.

[D]

I'm not putting them out either. I'm just right.

[E]

I'm never putting you out for that. But now after that, it. If this person has a health issue, it's still. I'm still. Yeah, because they're gonna come out and say. Yeah, they gonna come out and say that she made me feel bad.

[B]

I'm at a comedy show. Yo, I'm crack. I crack on the people in my crowd. The person fell asleep. Da da, da, da, da. It's comedy. Comedians always get a pass as a.

[A]

Performer, what you would do on the stage. But as a performer. What do you think about the. I don't need no broke fans.

[E]

That's crazy. I actually need the broken.

[B]

And you comparing it to a stripper, like all of the. I just think the whole analogy is a bad one.

[C]

It is.

[B]

I think that. Cause again, somebody paying for your set is not the equivalent to me smacking you on your ass and telling you to keep dancing. It's two totally different things, in my opinion.

[E]

And then he paranoid. What's the agenda against Burna Boy, what are they trying to do? Burna Boy is real successful. So what agenda is it?

[B]

I think it's just he keeps having these interactions or these instances with fans.

[A]

Yeah. There's a such thing as being too successful. And now you're an asshole. Not your asshole, but you're being the asshole. Side to you starts coming out like, I heard too much about Burn. Burning Boy gotta chill out. I was mad when I went to Burning Boy release party. I came here, told came in whenever he wanted to come in. He came in late as could be. There was no chairs. It was standing room only. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't given what I thought it should have been given.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was tight about it. And I just think it's a better way he could have handled it.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Like, his exact quote when he saw that is, when I stand up here and see you over there with your girl sleeping, it pisses me the fuck off. I'm not doing another song until you go home. Oh, the couple sleep well. The woman was sleep, but the dude was with her.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

And it's like, your dogs. You ain't.

[E]

This bitch didn't ruin his night. Damn.

[B]

I just think it's a better way to handle things, bro.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Like, that's escalation.

[E]

I feel like every time Burnable get in a situation where he can show his personality a little bit, it's always kind of answered Holish way back to the whole we don't have culture thing. Like, I've been off Burning Boy since then. You wearing Timberland boots at your show, talking about black people don't have culture.

[A]

And I forgot.

[E]

He said, yeah, I never forgot. And he wears Timberland boots. And please.

[B]

Say this is the same thing to me.

[E]

Please.

[B]

That when we had this conversation about DOA Cat when she was doing those type of things, the way you make certain artists hear, you hit them in their pocket. If y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

If y' all have a problem with the way that they're behaving at shows, stop going to the shows.

[E]

If you really don't.

[B]

If you. Yeah.

[E]

If you really trying to.

[B]

If this is what you're trying to do. Because, again, I think you have to respect your audience because you can lose that audience.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And now you gonna be up here looking crazy when your show ain't selling. You could talk that shit right now because you selling out. But you won't treat your audience like dick. Like you wanna be a dickhead to your audience. They can leave.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

Especially the broke ones. That's the thing.

[E]

Like that's the thing.

[D]

This idea of, you know, fuck the broke fan. If your stadium is filled, 90% of people, people that saved up to buy tickets to see you.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

Who've made a sacrifice to see you. And if you say fuck them, you ain't gonna have no fans in the audience. It's disrespectful in general, but it's especially disrespectful to the people that make you you.

[B]

Yeah, like all your fans ain't wealthy, my nigga. Most of em not high 90s. Mid 90% of them are not what you would consider wealthy or unbroken broke.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Even if that ain't a word. Yeah. Like fans.

[E]

What's broke? The Burner Boy.

[B]

Man. Listen.

[A]

Yeah. I'm a huge fan of Burna Boy's music, but he does seem to be a dick.

[E]

A dick in real life. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize pig. All right, that was a little. The Richter scale was a little low on that one. It's fine. This episode is brought to you by Pride. Prize picks. You and I make decisions every day. But on prize picks, being right can get you paid. So don't miss out on any of the excitement this sports season. On prize picks. Whether you're a football fan or a basketball fan or a fan of both like myself, it always feels good to be right. Prize picks is real easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line and pick more or less less for your chance to win big. Also Prize picks now offers stacks meaning you can pick the same player up to three times in the same exact lineup. Want to pick more on Steph Curry's points, three pointers and assists. Now you can pick all three in the same lineup only on prize picks. And the Joe and Ish picks of the week we are going with. Let's see, let's see. I don't know how to work this new phone to save my life. Okay, here we go. We are back. All right, this is brave. We got Geno Smith for more than 210 rushing and passing yards. We have Tony Pollard for more than 34 rushing yards. We have Ashton Genty for more than 18 and a half receiving yards. I don't like his ticket. I don't with Ashton Gentry like that yet. Jerry Judy for more than 32 receiving yards. I'm one of Denver train so I'm right. And CD land for more than 73 receiving yards at Cleveland.

[C]

They're playing Cleveland. Cleveland's defense pretty good.

[A]

On the Joe side of those picks. Jt, anything he wants to do that day. Puka Nukua, anything he feels like doing. And Jackson and Jigma Smith, anything.

[B]

I was gonna put Smith, but. But I think his joint is 93 passing yards.

[A]

I don't care what he might have. You can put 100 on that. They could say 193. I might still go. I might still go.

[B]

He felt like it.

[A]

And say, yeah. Don't forget to download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP for your chance to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. And that's only on prize picks where it's good to be. Right? Right?

[C]

That's right.

[A]

All right, all right. Fresh out the break. Fresh out the break. Had some smoke. Oh, we had a little bit of smoke.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Somebody was looking for a good educator brother. He said he going to find him, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, if you missed it was kid.

[D]

Singing this to him. Y do I ever cross your down.

[B]

Instead he looking for you.

[E]

He's the worst. DZ out.

[A]

Our good brother Brian McKnight went on Anton Daniels podcast and shared some things. I have a clip here. He shared that he reached out to the Joe Button podcast so he can attempt to be a guest.

[C]

Who. Who caught that message?

[A]

I want to let Mr. McKnight know I have never received that message. You must have sent that to, like, the pod page maybe or something, because if you would have sent that to me, we would have handled that in the heartbeat. You know, I got. I got you singing at my wedding. Maybe you don't know why not no more.

[D]

Wait till we done.

[A]

Oh, burn that bridge. Anyway, I have this. Better get a backup. I have this idea. Like to hear it. Here it go.

[B]

Because here's the thing. Why can't we sit and talk about. Yeah, I agree. I send a message to Joe Button's podcast.

[A]

Crickets.

[B]

Nothing. But who said Mark, the guy, the political. Let me tell you something.

[A]

What's this guy's name again?

[B]

I'd love. I'd destroy the. That dude. I would destroy.

[A]

Destroy.

[B]

Not physically, but because you don't even know me. But you call me an. Yeah, yeah. Well, I look at Mark Lamont Hill.

[A]

Get a man.

[B]

There's a segment of people that are what I like to call. They like to champion themselves as intellectuals.

[E]

Right. And that they truly believe that they're.

[B]

Smarter than Everybody else, him. But I don't really believe that because I never see the results. Right? It never translates.

[A]

Let me rewind that. Let me rewind that.

[B]

Hold up.

[A]

You're what Brian says it never translates.

[B]

Right? So I see people hand him his. His. I see people handing him his ass on top.

[A]

It's easy to.

[B]

I mean, easy to say that smartest guy in the room. But it doesn't necessarily translate into results.

[A]

Right?

[B]

So I. I decided that I was just doing. I would do stuff on my own.

[A]

We don't need to rest.

[B]

Nah, nah, we don't need to rest. We kind of got it.

[A]

I went and watched the whole episode to make sure it wasn't anymore. It was.

[B]

I know you did. I know.

[A]

I did too.

[D]

That's part of the job.

[B]

Yo. Where does it translate? How you measure? How do you measure?

[E]

Whoa.

[B]

That.

[D]

And they was talking about two different things. That's the funny part.

[B]

They were just like, how do you measure that? Mark could be resonating with a whole bunch of different people and improving people's lives every single day. You can't measure that.

[A]

Ish. Fight your fights.

[B]

I fuck with the team.

[A]

He went out there in the street.

[B]

With the team, bro.

[A]

Mark went out there in the street. Homeboy is here. He came to the block. Let them at least get they one off for a couple she. And if Mark's going to be.

[B]

You can't be a stranger and come on my block and get a feel.

[A]

You can't do that.

[B]

What I'm saying. Tell you. You got it, though.

[A]

That's not how that work. Dark Lamont Hill. Do you know where this stems from? Do you know what you've said to make Brian McKnight feel this way? What do you have to say about it? I'll totally move out the way now.

[D]

All right, let me say a couple things. Let me think. I didn't know we were going to talk about this.

[A]

Well, I thought about nigga shoot at the shoot. That nigga fuck it first.

[D]

It's based on the comments we had up here. The conversation we had up here. So I don't remember us saying nothing that crazy about him.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

No, we've said no.

[A]

We did.

[D]

I don't think it was crazy. I haven't. But no, I don't think there's anything crazy about him. I don't remember calling him an asshole, but he is an asshole. Let me be clear. Brad McKnight. Is this my camera? Brian McKnight, you are an asshole. And that's okay. It's not a beef. We ain't got no issues. You just an asshole. I'm basing that on having interviewed Brian Benight lots of times. Since you bring. I wouldn't go mention this, but I've interviewed you lots of times. You were rude and nasty to everybody on my crew. Everybody think you were nice to me. But the measure of being an asshole isn't how you treat the host. It's how you treat everybody around them. And you've been a dickhead to them. No disrespect to you, except you're an asshole. I was in an airport in Eastern Europe. I was headed somewhere. You were headed somewhere different. I watched a woman come to you and ask you for an autograph, and you completely ignored and disrespected her and walked off. You're an asshole. But that's not why we're talking about this. So we say, I don't know. You're right. I don't know you. But I don't have to know you to know you're an asshole. I don't get into your family business. Your family business has nothing to do with me. Except when you make it public. And when you put your family in public on blast, that might make you an asshole. That's all I'm saying. When you have children and you say, my children are the product of evil, that might make you an asshole. When somebody says, yo, but the Bible says you should love your children, you say, my older children were the product of sin, that might make you an asshole. That's just a fact. When you have a child named Brian McKnight Jr. And then you fall out with them, have a new baby, name him Brian McKnight with a different middle name, and then legally change your name to the new kid's name. You tried to start back at one with your kids, nigga, that might make you an asshole. So please don't act like you better than us. You notice you worse than us. If you want to come up here and debate, I'm sure they would let you debate. But you didn't contact nobody. You're lying. Just like your children say you lie. And for the record, I have spoken to your children, off the record, and they've told me a laundry list of shit about you that's way worse than anything that's ever happened in the public. I'm not going to say that on air. We could keep that between me and you, but if you keep doing this, I will put it out.

[A]

See, that's the thing.

[D]

So now if you want the smoke, keep coming. Or we could just stop this right here. My brother. Brother.

[A]

God bless Brian McKnight, first of all. Let's do this. Yeah, yeah. Brian Knight. Just a few things on the tail end of that, I don't think. You know, you got to research more about Mark Bryant. Like, not only was he born to do that, he was born to do that. Priming, right? Yeah. That's a layup.

[C]

And he loves doing that.

[B]

That's a layup.

[A]

I think people see him with Pierce Brosnan and all of them on CNN and some of these other places, like, they familiar with him on the church. The church pulpit. They must have seen him. Not only is he born to do that, but he's also the guy that's going to call the kids, and he's going to call the kids and talk to him. He gonna be in the airport and see you be a dick. That one. I don't know if I agree, but we know you ain't that one.

[D]

It was rough. Was rough the way he was. And I give people grace. I don't. People be tired. People be saying, I don't have time to talk to somebody is different than being an outright jerk to somebody. And it was so bad. Another artist who I'll say was there, saw it and was like, wow, I'd never do that. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

[E]

This. In a group chat with your kids like this.

[A]

Kids listen to the show sometimes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's how I know that I've said some, but what a read. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I did that one.

[A]

All right.

[C]

You don't got no spo. For the interviewer.

[D]

Antoine Donaldson. Antoine Jameson, whatever his name is. No, I don't know him.

[A]

Anton. He.

[D]

He. He's saying that I think I'm smarter than everybody. I'm. I'm smarter than him. You know, Like, I'm. I don't think I'm smarter than everybody. I'm smarter than him, but I don't even. I. I literally don't know. I don't have a beef.

[B]

I don't know who he is.

[D]

I don't even know who his name. Literally. I could Google it. But, like, for what? Like, I'm not. Ry Knight deserves our attention. He's a star. He's a celebrity. He's a genius. He. And we engaged him. I didn't engage the homeboy. So salute to him. I hope his platform does well. Wish him nothing but the best.

[A]

Salute to you, Antoine, everybody. Don't be needing that.

[B]

No, that Was the. That jumped in it. That's the. That jumped in. What happened to him? Get a feel with man baby. No, you don't jump. He can't jump in it for damn sure.

[A]

All right, fine, Brian. I'll just play the records at the wedding. No, nix that idea.

[D]

Well, you know. You know, it's funny.

[B]

Ryan's coming.

[D]

It's funny.

[A]

One of the best singers in the world. But I mean, I do agree that he done a lot of.

[D]

Yeah, I like him too. We sat up here and praised his music. I talked about, you know.

[A]

Yeah, you know, I get it. And they be calling me are sometimes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just. That's it. You ain't got to do it.

[E]

Making a new junior is like other level, though. That's not like. That's different. Kind of like you watch this. Here's your brother with your name. Is another level like. Damn. Yeah, that's rough. Cold blooded.

[A]

Anybody else need to read or. We got anybody else on the docket? What's up? What we doing? They threw my name in the mag Trap trial. Yeah.

[D]

Talk about that.

[A]

Yeah, they threw my name in the Metro. Yes, the Meg the Stallion versus Milagro. The Internet, whatever they are calling her the Internet reporter or online reporter. That trial is going on now for defamation. And I guess they asked her. Where's that? I'm getting. I'm getting my. From arm. What's My man Wiggins. Armand Wiggins. I'm getting it from him. I'm getting it from the people that are in the court. If it's false, hey, who knows? I wasn't there. But he's saying that they. They're asking her. They're trying to prove. Why are you going after Milagro when there are much bigger voices that have echoed some of the same sentiments? That's. That's.

[B]

That's what they call come out. Yo, we caught.

[A]

I'm just saying if it's. They're saying if it's defamation. Why is it defamation when one of the smallest voices is saying what some of the larger voices have. Have echo. Let me find the quote.

[C]

Well, isn't the court about her posting some porn?

[A]

That's what they got you on. But that they're addressing more than that.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. It's a lot of the.

[C]

You know, what we got you on is what we got you on.

[E]

And they reached out to her. And when they reach out to you with the lawyer, automatically you're not supposed to delete nothing. The. With the deleting moving. And then they got the. The forensics from the phone. They found everything. Everything she deleted. She did a lot of. And they had proof that she had like direct contact with them. Yeah. With touring them people. So it was not. It's just talking. You know what I mean? It's you talking because you were being paid or whatever you got on the side.

[C]

And again, you're posting porn. That's a different level of. That's not just talking at that point.

[E]

Like, yeah, it's too far. These don't know when to stop no more.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's one thing to have an opinion.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

It's a different thing to post some revenge porn. Whether it's AI or not. Like.

[D]

Right.

[A]

That's a.

[C]

That's different.

[E]

People get so like.

[C]

No, I didn't. You did.

[B]

I ain't know nothing about it. No, that did not sound believable. Cuz he lied. I didn't see. I swear. Okay.

[E]

If I saw, I thought you was telling the truth. You just sound like you.

[B]

If I saw it, you know, I.

[E]

Thought you was telling the truth. You just sound like you lying. That's the crazy to be being honest. And you still sound like you lying in some real life.

[A]

Keep it in the off. That's dope.

[D]

Disagree. That is funny.

[E]

He just can't help but to sound like he lying.

[A]

Okay, I got it here. Arman Wiggin says Megan threw slight shade at Joe Button. When asked why she didn't have the same smoke for him as she has for Milagro, she says Joe Button was a famous rapper with one of the biggest songs ever. He is now a podcaster and only has 1 million followers. But he is already established and Milagro is building fame off of Megan hate. End quote.

[B]

Where's the shot? The only 1 million followers.

[A]

Yeah. You had one.

[E]

It was shady.

[A]

It was a little bit of shade.

[B]

But I mean, I don't think that. I think. I think it's just the opposite.

[A]

True.

[B]

No, I think it's the opposite.

[A]

What?

[B]

I think they're establishing that Joe Button is a known figure. He's had one of the biggest songs in history. He has over a million followers. This person might have 25,000 followers and they're trying to build their brand off of me. Joe Button already has a brand, so that's how I took it.

[D]

If she said over a million followers instead of only a million followers, I would have took it as no shade at all. It might be a little shade, but either way she right.

[B]

I mean, it's light shade. I ain't taking.

[A]

I just want all Of y' all out there to know that I did indeed try my best to be a part of this community case. I came on air and practically begged for a deposition. Once I took the stand for my little sleepwalking case, I was ready. I like that stand. It's pretty cool. I would have loved nothing more to get up there and answer some questions.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

That would have been a vibe. I'd have been in the court.

[E]

No, Joe, you getting old for real.

[A]

They didn't accept me.

[E]

You enjoyed being on the stand.

[A]

I mean, I had fun when I.

[E]

Did it, being cross examined and stuff.

[A]

I had fun with somebody that was nuts saying they version me saying mine being questioned. And then somebody would sense with a gavel saying, you know what? This makes sense.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This black makes some sense. I like that. I like that. I would have got up there and shared some.

[B]

I don't always go that way.

[A]

Well, I don't want to do it often enough to find out. I don't want to do it often enough to find out. I don't do b E no more. And you're not boosting no more. It's a new day. We're not doing the things we used to do.

[E]

Being these is crazy.

[B]

Boosting is crazy artist.

[A]

Even though if I get a hundred of them little ish university suits, they going right on the truck. They going right on the truck. So stupid. So, yeah, that's what's going on in the Meg Milagro case. Also. Meg said that she's lost plenty of business opportunities. She's turned down business opportunities. One of which was. Was the chance to be a part of the game Call of Duty. But she refused. Once she learned that she would be a shootable character, a character that you.

[B]

Could shoot very smart.

[E]

They'd have been killing.

[B]

Very smart.

[A]

I don't even play Call of Duty. I'd have bought it off the script. Hell yeah.

[B]

Y you got to them videos would have went absolutely crazy.

[A]

Crazy.

[D]

Yeah, that was a very smart move.

[B]

Yeah, that was a very smart move. Would have been creating new way.

[A]

I think that could have been firing. It could have been a way to sustain the victim approach.

[B]

I think she's trying to put that.

[A]

And she is a victim. So that's not what I'm saying.

[B]

I think she trying to put that.

[A]

She can make it last longer in a video game if you getting shot every day.

[B]

Yeah, but again, if you stupid. If every time I I now open my Twitter or Instagram and this nigga's uploading videos. Just being creative now. Shooting me like, tori, I got your back. Yeah, that's funny. Now they gonna put music behind it. Like, yeah, yeah, you gotta get out of there. That was smart.

[A]

And they said Tory is eligible for parole. Mark.

[B]

Now what we read.

[A]

So.

[D]

So he has 10 years with no parole. What he has possible in 2026 is an early parole, which is not part of his process, so they'd have to petition for it, but he actually is not entitled to parole based on. On this sentence.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

We marking be knowing. Yeah, no, that is. I think she trying to put that behind her and.

[A]

Oh, I do.

[D]

I do too.

[A]

Same.

[E]

It's about time.

[B]

I concur. And Clay trying to put it behind it too. Said allegedly they eloped.

[E]

Good for them.

[D]

I hope so. Want them to be happy.

[E]

She deserves a happy ending after all this.

[B]

You right.

[C]

Indeed.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

Everybody deserves a happy ending.

[B]

Indeed.

[A]

I agree. I totally agree. Ain't tripping me up at all.

[B]

Get out of there. Turn.

[A]

Everybody deserves love. That's right.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

Anyways, what else do we got that's important that we care about?

[B]

Well, they finally said that your. The kid David is officially a suspect now. Yes, after saying he wasn't.

[D]

And yes, after the tragic death of that young woman, the police said that David was not a person of interest. He was not a suspect in her murder. Of course, here at the Joe Budden.

[A]

Podcast, he was always a suspect.

[B]

No, he was the suspect.

[A]

He had no other suspect. He totally skipped. Person of interest.

[E]

Right.

[A]

He was the suspect. When the cops said that, we knew.

[C]

That once they found the body in the car, it was like his car.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

While he was on tour, they found.

[A]

Like 9 million more things.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying off rip. It was like, oh, he did.

[D]

You got to be a suspect. And like I said then, and I think we all agree, like, part of why they do that sometimes is to take you off the. You know, to make you less.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

You sit back, you're not paying attention, you're not covering your tracks as much. Yeah, he's a suspect. Go figure. And they found even more evidence to tie them together.

[A]

Yeah, they have some. They have some GPS radar tracking that shows he. That he took a trip around the time of and he came back somewhere. So he. They have stuff. Yeah, he's out of here.

[B]

He got a lot more than that. They just not.

[C]

Was it a Tesla too, wasn't it? Yeah, you know, that got all types of geotagging and all that on there.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Forget the cell phone. The car Alone tells you that, too.

[A]

The car do it.

[D]

According to police reports as well. They say this is a multiple person job. That they believe that if he, Whoever did it, had help.

[A]

Yeah, David, you're outta here, buddy.

[E]

We thought he was guilty once we heard the other weird little songs. Cause he has a lot of songs that is, like, freaky.

[B]

Remember when this story first broke? I think everybody up here was like.

[D]

Yeah, allegedly, he did that shit. Yeah, I believe in due process, but did it.

[E]

Nah, he didn't.

[B]

I believe in due process, but that did it.

[A]

Well, speaking of that. Did it. Do we care that Smokey Robinson has a dude accuser that came forward now?

[B]

I think that nigga did that, too.

[D]

Yeah. He got two new accusers and one is a dude.

[E]

God damn, Smokey.

[D]

Both of them work for him again. So we've had a lot of Jane Do's. They filed in June, I believe, May or June. Now we have a John Doe. John Doe number one alleges in his motion, which he filed November 4th, that Smokey Robinson. Oh, by the way, he does detailing work for Smokey.

[A]

Oh, we know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And let me stop trying to be funny during mail. Let the dude get his shit off.

[D]

Yeah, that's what Smokey said.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He claims that Robinson, quote, touched and fondled his erect penis in front of him numerous times and also tried to force him to touch his penis. In 2020, who was erect? Smokey.

[A]

Oh, Smokey.

[B]

Smokey.

[D]

Smokey was basically masturbating in front of me and said, hey, you want in?

[C]

You want to join in?

[D]

You want to second this emotion?

[E]

Yeah, this ain't gonna stroke himself.

[A]

Smokey is not on the wedding list.

[E]

My grandmother loves Smokey.

[B]

I love America. Oh, she said something positive about Granny.

[E]

Not that one.

[A]

The ugly.

[B]

I'm trying, man.

[E]

You might be in a group chat with Granny.

[D]

Nigga.

[A]

Does anybody here not believe Duke like I believe Duke? Y' all can see Smokey Robinson sitting on the.

[B]

Right. He just, you know, smoking off and come here.

[A]

You know, Smokey was.

[B]

Y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Y' all saw that album and thought he was only talking about the women.

[E]

With the volume of people that come from the past with these older people, it makes me really think that the industry just was like that. Like, that's just how it was.

[A]

Was. That doesn't make it all right.

[E]

Right? That don't make it all right. But when you're among it, and that's how it is. You know what I mean? You have to be a really good person and not take part in that.

[A]

That'S some sick situation.

[C]

If he was indeed doing this, if he does that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't believe that. Everybody who says something happened. I'm talking about in general. Not with Smokey. Yeah. Just in life, we have to assume people lie, et cetera. It's just a tough thing when this many people are saying something. And, I mean, could it be a conspiracy?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It could also mean he did the shit. And I just don't want to dismiss them out of hand. Just cuz I love Smokey.

[A]

I ain't. I, I, I know Smokey was in there whacking it in front of some. You know he was. Yeah, you know he was. Allegedly.

[B]

Allegedly.

[D]

You believe the John Doe story, too?

[A]

I was talking about John Doe.

[B]

I believe the John Doe.

[A]

I was talking about John Doe. Yes. Man, them niggas in the 70s and the 60s, boy.

[B]

Free love.

[A]

Yeah, that was the free love. Woodstock. Qud.

[E]

I should have been there.

[A]

Yes. Not for the free love part. If you was at that show last night.

[C]

Or the bad.

[A]

I'm talk. I'm talking about the qu. The quad portion. And I would have did the ques alone. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Nope, nope. You don't know what that said. It's strong. I seen Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not playing with them. Smokey Robinson, you're a piece of. That's horrible. But you got slaps.

[C]

A lot of them.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm still gonna play him for sure. Mark, watch. Watch this.

[D]

If he's. Look, if the evidence comes out that he did it, then I'll stop listening. But till it do.

[E]

God, you really stop listening. Do you listen to R. Kelly?

[D]

No, I don't listen to R. Kelly.

[E]

Even when nobody's around.

[D]

Even when absolutely nobody's around. It's not even on my playlist in.

[E]

The car by myself. TP2, boy, that still bang n. Then.

[A]

I went chuck the chocolate back. Oh, my God.

[E]

There's no way. I'm sorry. I cannot do that. Like, I just, I can't.

[A]

And we. And we stand with the victims, too.

[E]

Yeah, we stand with y'. All. But TP2 is hard as.

[D]

And again, that's just my. And that's my personal choice. I'm not saying people are wrong for making a different choice. It's just my personal choice.

[B]

I'm with you.

[D]

I'm not judging.

[B]

Also.

[A]

Also, it's levels.

[E]

I'm not going to put it online. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to put in the background or nothing. You know what I mean? Mean, when I graduated so I could be. I could believe I could fly the whole north. Philly graduated to that.

[D]

He offered to come and perform live, didn't he?

[A]

Shut up. I do believe that Mark isn't going to listen to Smokey Robinson. And I do believe that he doesn't listen to R. Kelly.

[B]

I do believe he doesn't watch the NFL.

[A]

I believe he doesn't watch the NFL. I believe all these things because Mark, our good brother Mark is having a friendsgiving.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

He was kind enough to send over an invitation. Oh, this the rules. Hey, Brian McKnight. Peep this. Hey, chat. Check your man out. I didn't.

[C]

Was the stuff you put in the group chat today, was that updated information?

[D]

It was from the Evite for people who didn't read.

[A]

Don't get in front of me.

[C]

Copy.

[A]

We don't need you.

[B]

Mark, you got mute.

[A]

Thank you very much. Much. Yeah.

[B]

Come on, Joe.

[A]

Mark Lamont Hill. What a pan says. Did you get that, Mike?

[C]

Did you read it?

[A]

Did you read it? Mona, let me read it to you. Even though if you saw it, he says what to bring. We'll provide a yummy holiday dinner. Yummy holiday dinner. But if the spirit moves you, feel free to bring your favorite spirits, wine, beer and so on. What to wear.

[C]

Important.

[E]

What to wear?

[B]

Whatever you like.

[A]

But there's one exception. Remember that we are a shoeless household.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Nose kicks are coming off at the door.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Please make sure to wear socks.

[C]

Happy toes, Diz.

[A]

Right. What to not bring.

[C]

Don't bring over yet.

[A]

The cootie. Cooties. Yo, Mark is such a. Listen to this. The cooties. And then they try to clean it up. We're always trying to protect Malcolm from those pesky former preemie lungs. So if you're feeling under the weather, have a tickle in your throat or just not 100% over an ailment, we ask that we all send good vibes to one another and that you stay home. Thank you.

[C]

I'm with that, Mark.

[D]

Thank you, dog.

[A]

We with all of this. But the wording is just like Mark's.

[B]

Wife might have wrote that.

[D]

You think I wrote yummy? Send it to y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

Yes, you did that.

[B]

You wrote yummy.

[C]

Mark did not write cooties.

[A]

Yes, he did.

[B]

Yes, he did. Mark wrote that. Mark, you wrote that.

[A]

Yo, Mark White don't have my number. She didn't send it to me. So they as a House, household. He proofread it came up to send to the cruise. And lastly, it says travelers. This is my favorite part. If you're coming from Manhattan or Brooklyn or would like to know who's heading over to carpool, please let me know. The New Jersey transit stops from New York Penn Station. I won't read all of that. Yeah, but. Yeah, yeah, you can do that. Yeah, but it sends directions to get there by. By train, boat, or car, airplane, automobile. Now I'mma let y' all know I am free tonight.

[B]

I'm in there.

[C]

Oh, I'm going.

[A]

Me and Rob. I'm free. I'm free tonight.

[D]

Can I just say one thing? When I sent y' all this, I actually deleted the first sentence of it. Cuz I was like, they going to tease me if I send it. So I actually screenshotted out the first sentence, which was just show it to Joe. That way he can read it. Mo hand it to Joe. Just let Joe read it. What?

[E]

Are y' all ready to gobbledy gobbledy gobbly?

[B]

Oh, no, that was on mine.

[D]

That was on mine.

[E]

Drop, drop, drop it like it's hot.

[B]

That was on mine.

[E]

And then it's the homemade smiley face with the tongue.

[B]

That was on mine. That wasn't on there.

[A]

Don't worry, I'm still gonna read it.

[D]

Everything was on the Evite, but when I sent it to y' all in the group chat, I deleted that line. Y' all wouldn't tease. You open the Evite.

[A]

Are y' all ready to gody goblety drop, drop it like it's hot.

[D]

Mark, do you really think I wrote this? Yes.

[C]

You are an author.

[D]

The fact that y' all think I'm capable of that says everything n. You did it.

[A]

I'm free tonight. And I. I'm thinking about stopping by as like, part of my job. Almost like going. I got it.

[B]

Once he said the. The three different groups he got.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I gotta be there. The people didn't hear that, but I was saying those from the Patreon. Oh.

[B]

Just.

[D]

Three different kinds of people there. You know, the hood. I'm looking forward to y' all being there to help balance this thing out.

[B]

Cause what side we balancing out?

[E]

Well.

[D]

Cause I got like, I got like my academic friends and my wife got her own crew too. There's like the. The kind of academic friends. There's like the kind of. Of, you know, the nerdy people. Then it's like I got some real, real hood people and I got some cool people who like to have fun. And I'm trying to mix all them up, but I need people who can float.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

You want to read the floaters?

[A]

Just show me the room. The people that took the train on.

[D]

It's New Jersey trains. And it ain't like they taking the. The Peter Pan bus.

[A]

Sorry, Sorry.

[B]

It's not that.

[A]

Yeah, it's not that. Sorry. It's a. It's a train, buddy. If it ain't the train that the Equalizer 2 when he kills lock the door and killed them Russian, then it's a train. Sorry. Well, I think I'm going.

[C]

I'm definitely going.

[D]

Looking forward to having.

[B]

Definitely going.

[A]

I'm going. If for no other reason than to take 70 doggy plates out of there.

[C]

And have something to pot about on. On tsa.

[B]

I told you.

[D]

Right, right. Why there chicken wings in Malcolm's bed? Yeah, exactly.

[B]

I got two reasons I'm going. One. One was the group and then your son.

[A]

Is there pork in the house? Is it pork in the house?

[D]

No, pork.

[B]

Pork is Muslim.

[A]

Yeah, you said all of that.

[B]

And didn't he tell you that?

[D]

And by the way, y' all don't have to bring anything. Nobody has to bring anything. We got food, alcohol. We got food for about 50 people. So I'm thinking that should be enough because I'm assuming people don't rcp Pop.

[A]

What you doing tomorrow night, man? Cuz I got cars over there. What you doing?

[D]

It's a deck of cars there. And we can stop all this.

[A]

No, me. Me and my dad had this talk weeks ago.

[D]

All right, now you're going to a wedding.

[A]

Yo, walk down the aisle on y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

I got something to do.

[A]

Let's see here. Let's see here. Okay, we did David. We did Brian McKnight.

[C]

Is it day Lost Soul time yet or not?

[A]

Yeah, can always be day Lost.

[C]

Cabin in the sky is out now. Now, I've listened to the album probably 10 times. They gave it to me early. Shout out, Shaun C. Shout out to everybody. Mass Peel. I might have cried every time. It's really amazing. It's amazing. It's a long time. De La Soul. I know you listened. You said you liked it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I like it.

[C]

But as a long time fan, it's, it's, it's emotional.

[B]

It's a feel good album.

[D]

It's, it's, it's, it's beautiful. I love it. I had the same feeling I had with this that I had when Tribe's last album came out where I felt like a sense of, like, completion. And it's like, yo, these dudes can still rap they ass off. The production is great. I loved everything about this album.

[C]

They smoke Tribe in terms of post.

[D]

Oh, it's a way better album.

[A]

I'm saying.

[D]

I'm saying the emotional feeling.

[A]

Got you. Got you.

[D]

The album is no disrespect Tri love.

[C]

To death, but this album was incredibly well done.

[D]

Yeah, it's just a great album.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That. That Postumous Tribe album, that shouldn't count, but it does.

[C]

It does.

[A]

It does.

[C]

It does. It doesn't, but it does. This feels like a regular De La Soul album.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I left this album saying. And I have to go listen again. I gave it this morning, quick run through, but I was like, God damn, these guys still rap. Like, amazing one and two. Why did we not think De La Soul put out a great album? They always put out a great album.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

So I can't wait to go and.

[C]

Yeah. Once you start getting all the in betweens and you're probably gonna have the same emotional feeling that it did.

[A]

Good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good, good. And I can see. I can see that, though.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I can see it being an emotional listen. It is daylight mass appeal.

[B]

Yes. Master Bill should win something.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know if there's.

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't know what it is, but something Masterpiece needs some type of separate recognition as an.

[A]

As a whole man's appeal don't need to win. There's nobody to reward them because they're the only ones doing what they're doing. There is nobody doing to look at all of that great they did this year and say, yo, like, it's for the Heads.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[D]

It's definitely us.

[B]

It's somebody that could say that can highlight what the they doing. It's us then. Yeah. Nobody got else gotta say it.

[A]

Oh, well, we do what every man's got.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, this is. You said they should win something. It we give y' all the record of the year award. God damn it. I don't care.

[D]

Well, they also. Because you talking about how great they've been this year. I think the last one for the year has now been announced. December 12 is the official release date for the Nas premiere album. That's gonna be another. Another banger.

[A]

Is what a way to end the year.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

For real.

[A]

What a way to year for music. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It really has been.

[B]

It's a good year for the rappers. It has been.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I was seeing the, you know, that old rappers. I don't want to hear that shit. If you are a fan of rap, whether it be mainstream underground, this was a year for the rappers. It was all across the board. The rappers delivered. I agree with that.

[C]

And I don't give a if none of it lands on no Billboard.

[B]

Yeah, I don't give a about none of that. I'm just talking about good quality rap.

[C]

I've had great albums to listen to and still go back. I still go back all the time. I saved all the bangers and I go back and listen to all.

[B]

Yo, fam. I ain't take the Wale album out yet. I ain't even really go through the summer project because of the Wale album.

[D]

Wale body, that album.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? I just haven't taken.

[A]

Belly is a great nighttime crazy. It's just a great all around. I feel like I've glazed Wale enough. He knows how I feel about him and his album. But yeah, again, phenomenal job. Shout out to all. Yo, shout out to all of you musicians out there to just help make the year what it is.

[C]

For real.

[A]

Like, it's too many of y'. All.

[C]

For real, for real.

[A]

Too many to name it is. This is a good. Thank you. Like, we're approaching December.

[B]

When I put my 20 together this year, it's gonna be much easier than other years where you're, you're picking that straws. Like, I can't even.

[C]

I don't know If I'm doing 20. It's gonna be hard to pick 10 because I'm doing.

[B]

But I just do favorite.

[C]

How do I pick certain? How do I not pick certain?

[B]

I just, that's why I do 20. Yeah, I do 20 and I do favorite. This ain't a ranking. This ain't. This is the best in or this is just my favorite albums for the year. I had to struggle a couple years ago. It was like I didn't even put it out. Like, yeah, I can't. I stop at 12 or 10 or it just was a lot of that didn't stick. Yeah, we were blessed this year.

[D]

Some amazing Mona Ice, y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

I want to thank y' all for reminding me to go back and listen to that Kodak album. I texted you this week.

[B]

Yeah, you did.

[D]

That was amazing. I really under. I, I, I skipped past it cuz so much good stuff was out. But the album was fire, man.

[B]

It's another one on the list.

[D]

Yeah, another one that's probably make the list.

[A]

I still haven't Listened to it yet? I need to.

[D]

You should.

[C]

It's dope. Yeah, it's dope. I listen to it one time. I wonder what's going on where he's not getting the any push or yeah, I know. Press or anything. Like it's odd for someone that has had platinum singles heat.

[A]

I think where the game is today.

[B]

Who's getting it?

[E]

I would think drugs probably.

[A]

Yeah. What the is y' all talking about? That's not waste time talk about he was on drugs.

[C]

We dead slaps before.

[A]

So pull them. Yeah. All right. So pull them. How did that look?

[C]

All right, fair enough. But I think that he should get more recognition from his label. I'm not talking about necessarily making good though.

[E]

That's the thing. Like, even though he's probably hard to deal with, but he's actually making good.

[C]

It's someone's job to market this. Back to the marketing conversation we had last week. Someone's job to do it. I don't figure it out.

[B]

I, I, I'm not gonna say the label or the people, but I had some people reach out to me in regards to certain comments made about marketing and all of that and, and they basically echo what the new, the new game is today. We not putting no money into nothing. We drop the project, we see what starts to bubble and then we'll put some money in. They just refuse to take a loss.

[A]

Now that's, that's, it's backwards to me.

[B]

But I, but from a business standpoint, I kind of understand that. How do you understand how, how would they possibly take a loss? When I say a loss in terms of a flop, like we build this album up. We put all this out here to do this marketing and they don't hit the numbers we want. Now we now our album flopped, whereas now we didn't put any money out. So the album dropped. The expectation is low. We don't need to sell XYZ to make back anything or to clear up.

[C]

That'S set yourself up for failure. Yo.

[B]

But no, I, I, I, I'm just saying I get both sides of it.

[C]

I do.

[B]

And then they're sitting there. Okay, we dropped this album. Let's see what organically or let's see what people. Okay, this song is generating some heat over here. Okay, now we got one. Now we'll shoot a video. Now we'll service it. Now we'll do xyz because now we already know the song we works.

[C]

But what happens if nothing ever hits that threshold? Cuz no one knows about it.

[B]

Exactly. And, and we don't. And which, and then you know what happens? We sit here and say why isn't Kodak getting more talk about it?

[A]

Right?

[B]

We, we're in that boat. Which is what I think happened with a lot of projects this year. But you're talking about from the business perspective. You said you understand it. So if you understand it you then what Parks is saying like, then it wouldn't make sense from the business standpoint. I ain't spend no money. I didn't spend no money.

[A]

So I, I don't. There's.

[B]

I put this project out. Let's take it off Kodak. Any out any artist. I didn't spend nothing. There's nothing I spent on promotion, marketing, nothing. We dropped the album.

[C]

Everybody just going do what it do. That's what that sounds like.

[B]

So you in business to do what? Make money. Where I know I have I, I, I, I have a guarantee damn near. That's what they're playing now. We playing a safe game. Okay. That's making some noise. We'll put money. I would want nothing make noise make no sense.

[A]

I are friends with the people behind Kodak, but that's what he got.

[B]

I'm not even talking about Kodak.

[A]

That'll just clear all of that.

[B]

What I'm saying is I'm not even talking about Kodak. My from a business perspective.

[A]

All right. Yeah.

[D]

You just saved me a bunch of thoughts and words. All right.

[B]

I'm not talking about Kodak. Well, what I what I was just was saying. Oh, nothing. Yeah, well, of course. But that had nothing. That's, that's why I listened to that album. That's how I knew it dropped. Because we're friends with the people behind Kodak.

[C]

That's a shame.

[B]

And it is a shame.

[C]

That's a shame.

[B]

No business sense. The way this work now is yo use your Instagram to market to your fans all that growing fan base and all that is over.

[A]

To talk all this and get calling me to have artists come up here. We agree s Kodak y' all get passionate about.

[D]

Hey, shout out to Kodak.

[C]

Shout out to Kodak.

[A]

Shout out to Kodak. Shout out to Lake Y Y Do y' all care about offset versus finesse? Two times I don't know about.

[C]

Tell me about him.

[A]

Well like to hear.

[B]

Never took nothing from finesse, bro.

[A]

It's been shot.

[E]

Fire every time.

[A]

I have no idea why they leaving. I ain't playing with you rapping ass. You dress up and boy, I love him for fun. You like to do that.

[B]

You talking about. I'm out here trying to make it. You out here suing your baby mama.

[A]

And I'm out here begging my kids.

[B]

My baby mama, let me see my kids.

[A]

And you are suing Lloyd. You a the wrong with you.

[B]

You feminine as a.

[A]

He going for a long time. So, I mean, I think you get the gist of what he's.

[C]

What does this start over? Do we know?

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say I don't know.

[B]

So apparently.

[A]

Who cares?

[B]

So apparently.

[A]

Well, let the clip play for.

[D]

That'S.

[B]

About I gonna be able to do. But you ain't gonna do.

[A]

You yourself, you personally.

[B]

You ain't gonna do a thing. You might spend some money, but.

[A]

All right. Offset replied. He said all y' all think is sweet till spank you and then don't call police. He said, keep naming me. Stand on it too. All y' all put. He said, what I look like beefing with a bbl ain't Finesse, but a bbl. Sweet ass, get in the gym. Lol. And he posted some pics of his body. I still don't know what this is about. Big freeze.

[B]

So I'm reading here our beef expert. We not come on.

[A]

And you working out. You looking good now in that alo shit. Break down the beef.

[B]

Anyway, Finesse referred to Stefon Diggs as the nigga that hit Offset's chick. So that's where it stemmed from. Like you. And he said, don't bring none of your girls around Stefan Diggs, he's Mr. Steal your girl now. So he's making jokes about that.

[A]

And then Offset took offense to that.

[B]

Yeah, Took offense to it also.

[A]

Shouldn't you take offense to it? Yes. Okay.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I gotta check the room. He took offense to that.

[B]

Also in the Red Bull did another.

[A]

Spiral cipher shout out the lyric.

[B]

And this one was yg Mozzie and J Rock.

[A]

This was fire.

[B]

This was amazing. Yeah, I was mad nobody told me about this. But also in there, YG says some things. Things also poking at Stefan Diggs. Offset Cardi. And Offset says he dmed yg. I DM that hoe too. Like, he. He's.

[E]

So you gonna go at everybody, say something. Biggest story in the media this year. You're gonna go to everybody about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

It's his wife. It's his mother. Depending on our relationship, I think some of you I might not like. And you know I don't like you. So if you say something about me, I. I'm. Or some of you I do like. And I thought we had a friendship and you saying some about a personal matter and we supposed to be cool. I have an issue with that. I got to speak to you.

[E]

You got DM me, You don't got my number. We ain't that cool.

[C]

It gets weird when it's a punchline in a freestyle to me, like, ain't.

[E]

That'S what freestyle is supposed to be like? That's the thing. That's stupid.

[A]

I don't get it about kids, about wives and kids. Come on. So you a comedian?

[E]

Yeah, I guess.

[A]

You a comedian. You tougher. You tougher than us.

[E]

I could take a joke though, for sure.

[A]

N somebody was joking about your kid.

[E]

On the Internet, I could pretend to take a joke with.

[A]

There you go, cuz.

[B]

You just said you want to. You just said you want to punch some of the in the face just for making.

[E]

I got a list. I got a list. You ain't got to bring my business up.

[B]

You said it.

[D]

That's all.

[E]

Why are we skipping?

[A]

Skipping what?

[E]

This Africa shit.

[D]

Oh, we not skipping it. We just flowing. We could talk about it. You want to talk about it?

[A]

You want to get to it? Go ahead.

[E]

Cause I don't really understand what's going on.

[A]

For real.

[D]

Oh, Nicki Minaj this week shout out to the barbs. Nicki Minaj this week hit the United Nations. She's the first rapper, certainly the first female rapper, I think the first rapper, period, to give an address to the United nations nations. Speaking about the. What do you call it? The treatment of Christians in Nigeria.

[E]

Speaking about a problem that doesn't exist.

[D]

The persecution of Christians in Nigeria. The natural thing you think she'd be talking about. And it sparked some controversy. People aren't happy about it.

[C]

Do tell. What's the controversy?

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

This is way outside of my. We talked about it briefly on Patreon, but I was like, this is.

[D]

Nikki posted some stuff on her timeline, kind of reposting these stories that a lot of the Republicans have been posting about Christians being persecuted in Nigeria.

[C]

Is that happening?

[E]

No.

[D]

Yes and no.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Are Christians being persecuted? Yes. Are only Christians being persecuted? No. So it's not really like something specifically happening to Christians. You get what I'm saying? It would be like if somebody came here and stuck everybody up and you said they're sticking up white people in a Joe Button podcast. Technically, yes. But, like, that's not really the thing. White person po is white too. Just because he's smashing that thick black joint don't make him not.

[A]

Oh, that's true.

[E]

And Pope kind of feel like a nigga. Listen. I read that when they looked at the numbers for the year, that they only knew, like, a few that they could prove that were Muslim or Christian.

[D]

They didn't know well, because it's not really about religion. But what makes this. And that's a great point. What makes this an issue for people is she's basically repeating MAGA talking points.

[E]

Yes, That's MAGA shit.

[D]

And then the right wing magazine people said, you know what? You repeat our talking points, why don't you come speak at the United Nations?

[E]

Oh, my God. And she went.

[D]

And she went again. And this is not. I know it's not gonna stop my timeline from being in shambles, but this is not a criticism of Nikki per se, as much as it is, like, this is just bad information. I don't really care if Nikki wants to talk about what's going on in Nigeria. She has a right to, but it's just not proper information. It's just not good information.

[E]

What's up? Like, what's going on, Joe?

[D]

What do you think?

[E]

Hey, what's going on, Joe?

[A]

Some of the barbs was at the show last night, so we end up kicking it. I asked them niggas, hey, y', all.

[C]

I missed this part of the journey.

[A]

Well. Cause during the show, you know, everybody stood up. And once I was over there, I mean, now we talking like, joe, you.

[C]

Went right to the U.N. i'm a barb.

[A]

I was like, well, about that. What do you think? They don't give a.

[E]

They don't.

[A]

They don't care. They will defend this chick today. So we been knew she was Maggie. We don't care about that.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I said, well, what about the. She said, nothing is so. I mean, what am I gonna say?

[E]

Eat a baby on live?

[A]

I think Nikki is going. I don't. I don't know what Nikki is going through. Again, I like to assume that. That there's other stuff going on that we don't know about, but I'm off this wagon. I'm off this wagon.

[D]

It feels very much like a Kanye trajectory to me. Ooh. And what I mean by that is there's the online presence. There's the. We saw the kind of flurry of tweets a month or two ago. We also saw Kanye as Jay Z was going toward Obama. We saw Kanye move away. I'm watching something very similar here happen as she goes toward Trump and Trump support and MAGA talking points. And it wasn't just the Africa stuff was also reposting transphobic and homophobic stuff. That's all mixed up.

[A]

I missed that.

[D]

Yeah, it's all mixed up in the Maga. In the Maga videos. You know what I mean? And so it's just looking very familiar. I'm a Nicki fan in terms of the music. I just don't like this online presence. I don't like what's happening at the un And I feel like she's being. I don't wanna say used. Cause that makes. Yeah, but sometimes when we say people are being used and she might be, but when we say that, sometimes it makes them seem like they don't have control over their own choices. She might be very conscious and intentional about the choices she's making. So I don't wanna assume that she doesn't know what's going on. I wanna give her enough credit to know she's making an informed choice, even if I disagree with it. But the danger of this, again, is it misrepresents what's happening in Nigeria, which actually makes it harder to stop what's happening in Nigeria. There's ethnic fighting, there's violence. What it is is there are some extremists, Islamic extremist groups that are killing people. But the Muslim extremist groups are also killing Muslims. That's the thing. They're not just killing Christians, they're killing Muslims for not being, quote, unquote, Muslim enough. So everybody's dying out there, you know? You know what I mean? This country split almost. It's two point.

[A]

Oh, that's like the Super Maga groups that beef with Maga for not being Maga.

[D]

Exactly. That's the point. So if you make it seem like, oh, Christians are being persecuted, then it sounds like that's the way to solve the problem, is to stop the persecution of Christians. They're not being persecuted for their Christianists. They're being persecuted. Persecuted because they're not meeting up with the. The values of this extremist group and it's happening to everybody. That's how you stop it.

[E]

So he's slow enough to help with this.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully we can get proper information to Nikki. And if she's this passionate about Africa as she seems to be, and she's this passionate about the persecution of vulnerable groups that she says she is, then I hope with the new information, she can speak out with the good information. So I'm shout out to her, shout.

[A]

Out to, do we know more about her uncle Trip? I saw pictures. That's all I Saw.

[D]

There's not much to know, you know, because, I mean, they were in New York, so there wasn't a big press throng or anything like that. They kind of brought up there. She gave her a thing and then kind of bounced, you know what I mean? And sometimes when dignitaries or people who are powerful, especially politically powerful people invite you, you feel like it's such an honor to be there that we don't ask any questions about why we.

[A]

I just think Twitter should stop being in 2020. Heading into 2026. I would like Twitter to stop being the end all be all of us knowing how people feel about things. Like, if you're gonna go on Twitter and tweet, cool. But for people that make their bones off of a microphone at some point, I would like to hear you with a microphone go a little more in depth about what it is your plight is that you're speaking about. Everybody doesn't know, right?

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. These. These sweets. They. They look nuts. They look nuts. They look nuts. And the bars don't care at all.

[E]

You got to read the comments. They don't give a.

[A]

No, they don't give a.

[E]

At all.

[A]

They don't.

[B]

So.

[E]

Joe, eat a baby.

[A]

When.

[B]

When are you copping these forel Timberlands? I'm just gonna ask you straight out.

[D]

He already got them.

[A]

Straight up.

[C]

He don't got to pay for them. Those get sent right?

[B]

He's going to pay for. No, he got to pay for that. Oh, he's going to pay for those. That couldn't even get the $300 Adidas. Oh, see? Oh, I think they giving that the $80,000. Tims.

[D]

It's up 25.

[B]

Not shooting at you.

[D]

No, no, no.

[B]

I just want to know when you.

[D]

Getting the boots it start playing Sweet.

[E]

Georgia Brown are buying those.

[B]

Joe's going to get like Joe, you got them?

[A]

No.

[B]

Now you got some other Louis Tims though.

[A]

I have the other Louis Tims they came out with.

[B]

Yeah. How much was those?

[A]

3000. Was 200.

[E]

I came in this and that was.

[A]

She was crying.

[E]

I still think about that purchase.

[A]

Ice is dead ass. He put this in the group chat. Pharrell got the 85000 chocolate Tim's with. With the monogram with the real gold. Big LV on the tongue. They are hard, but they only make it 50 pair and they 85 grand. Ice thinks that I'm getting them. He's not joking. He's not parting. He's.

[B]

I'm not the only person that I was Offended.

[A]

So I asked Keno. I said, keno, you think I'm getting them tims? Keno ain't hold me down. He said, yes, I think you getting them tims. Like, what type of do y' all take me for in here?

[E]

You ain't getting them.

[A]

Of course I'm not getting them.

[E]

Starving in Africa. You better not get them damn boots.

[D]

Just Christians.

[B]

That's why he would.

[E]

No, you wouldn't get them 85.

[A]

I don't even wear boots enough to entertain.

[D]

Well, let me ask you a question, Joe.

[E]

Everybody needs to put them on.

[A]

The 2:10 that I bought from Louie.

[D]

I wore once, Are you not getting them because. Just because of the price? Like, if they would cost $8,000, would you buy them?

[A]

Yeah, probably not. I don't wear boot. I'm not a boot guy like that.

[D]

Gotcha.

[B]

Would you buy.

[A]

I wear boots. One in the blue if I like them.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I wanted to get those cell phones.

[B]

But you just said they hard.

[A]

Hard, though. They are hard.

[E]

The tes was cute.

[A]

The te telfar tims was hard.

[E]

Yeah, they was hard.

[A]

I. I would have bought those. These $85,000 tims, they hard, but they not 85,000 hard. I'm building a house. Ain't nothing.

[D]

85,040. Who buys $80,000 tims? Seriously, I mean, that want to say.

[B]

I got $80,000 tims on.

[D]

I mean, cuz, I don't even know rappers that buy that, right? I mean, most rappers don't buy that.

[E]

I think you put them in a case, though. You don't wear them.

[D]

That what it is.

[B]

It's going to be a sitting court. It's going to be a sitting courtside at a basketball game with them boots on.

[E]

Please send it to me, the first.

[B]

Person believe that, cuz he wants you to see that. I got the $80,000.

[A]

One rapper that's going to get him from the rip. Who? Who you. You whispering French. Fat Joe going to be right.

[E]

You want to share your name? I'm about to say Fat Joe going.

[A]

To be right at the nick game. He got the long, you got the matching cold. Yes, he is going to get those temps.

[B]

I think French crazy. I think fab.

[E]

No, I would definitely put it on Joe over. Fab. Come on. Fab ain't buy no $85,000 boot.

[D]

That's.

[E]

Yeah, y' all tripping.

[B]

They gonna put them boots on right on the ground.

[E]

That's part of Joe aesthetic, though, the fat one.

[A]

I can read your mind, know what you're thinking.

[B]

The say 140. Well, I'm looking at retail. $82,000 limited to 50 numbered pairs. 18 karat gold Louis Vuitton initials on the tongue, eyelets, lace tips and tag hardware.

[A]

I didn't even know about these tims. So you put them in the group chat. So what was. Where'd you learn about it? Wifey sent them over. No, you, you about to go through another rebrand?

[B]

No, they was on the timeline, all right? And I said, oh, this is my guy Joe right here.

[A]

Let me send it over to God. Joe. There will be no air. $85,000 tims. That is wasteful.

[E]

Why the.

[A]

That is wasteful. Yeah, we.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[D]

But Joe, I know, I know what you're thinking. Joe's wasteful in other ways.

[A]

Joe's not as wasteful as they come on here saying, I ain't about to make this about me though.

[D]

No, no, no, no, you, you are, you are. I'll name him. I tell you, I tell you. I tell you.

[E]

Talking about cuz he gives back.

[A]

How am I wasteful?

[D]

Okay, number ones I know I could read my jailhouse lawyers.

[A]

I'm not looking at me like that. I'm wasteful.

[B]

You got $3,000 Tims, and you said you don't wear boots. That's why I asked you if they was three grand, would you buy them?

[A]

You see, you think that's wasteful? I don't think that's wasteful because he.

[D]

Wipes his ass with $3,000.

[A]

I, I wanted those boots, okay? For when I wear boots.

[B]

So if he wanted $80,000 boots for when you wear boots, it's the same exact excuse.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Not. It's not the same at all. It's not the same at all. There's nowhere without saying, explain it to me.

[B]

Yo, somebody said, somebody said, why did you buy $3,000 boots? Your excuse was because I wanted those boots for when I wear boots. The same exact excuse could be given for why you bought a zillion dollar boots. Because I wanted those boots when I wear boots.

[D]

Okay, that's impractical. I get your point. I mean, at that level though, you're not, you're not wrong. But at some level, then everything is wasteful. If you, if you, if you wear boots five times a year, it's wasteful, right? If you don't wear them, if you.

[B]

Bought three paid wearing boots, I could just get a pair of regular too.

[E]

In this room with a three thousand dollar piece on some. In this room, right? That's like you Know people do that but $80,000 boot, come on.

[D]

I, I, it's just a matter what, what your level is. I think the more money you make.

[B]

Exactly. It's all relative. So somebody will look at somebody, somebody that says yo, you got on a seven thousand dollar watch. You are a idiot. When there are watches that cost 250.

[E]

Right.

[B]

That is wasteful. Whether we want to admit it or not, it is wasteful.

[D]

So that's what I'm saying.

[A]

That's a bad.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Not with the watch. Only because a lot of them said.

[A]

It'S like a broken perspective.

[B]

No, you're wrong. We're sitting here based on our privilege. It's not a broke privilege Joe. We sitting here with, with our, with our privilege. We sitting here with our blessings and we look down on other that's not broke. Most in America cannot afford a thousand dollar watch ain't real. We didn't say a $7,000. We talking about a thousand dollar watch.

[A]

I'm saying that people with money sometimes invest in things that broke people don't understand.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So that's why I only said it when you got to the watch say. Because my watch has increased. Yeah.

[B]

Your value increases since I bought it.

[D]

What that thing worth now?

[A]

Not important.

[B]

Watches are dropping all across the country.

[D]

How many tims could you buy?

[B]

Watches are dropping. But somebody could look at the $80,000 Timbs as a collector's item. Quote unquote investment. They selling them right now online for 139. So if you spent 80 for them and you could go turn them and make 50 quick.

[D]

That's true. But then you're not wearing them. We talk about wearing them.

[B]

I'm talking about wearing them.

[D]

If you're wearing them then it's wasteful.

[E]

If you could wear them if you could if now if you get them, wear them, get a couple pictures in them and sell them for the 140.

[B]

That's something you might sell them for a buck. That's sell you all the time.

[E]

You might buy that boot used.

[D]

Especially if Joe Foot was in it.

[E]

Get the boot.

[B]

If Jay Z went and bought those boots, nobody looks at it like wasting money.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I think that's Joe's point though. Right. Is that at a certain income level. Oh no, that was your point, sorry. That it's not wasteful at a certain level.

[E]

Talking about how wasteful this man was.

[D]

And I'm saying anybody with money is. That's what I'm saying. I don't know any person who's in the 1%. That's not wasteful.

[E]

You know what?

[D]

But there's levels to wastefulness. And I think buying an $80,000 pair of boots is a lot more wasteful than having four watches, which at least you could justify through the resale and other things. Assuming you can't do that with the boots.

[B]

You got $3,000 hoodies. You think that's wasteful?

[A]

I have a couple $3,000 hoodies.

[B]

That's what I said.

[D]

But he said it's slow.

[A]

You think you tried it? Yeah.

[D]

With emotion.

[B]

That's what I said.

[A]

No, the way you said it would lead somebody to believe that there's a bunch of them.

[B]

He just said, you own $3,000. Two of them we going to give you.

[A]

There's not a closet for. You can say one.

[B]

We going to say you got one of them.

[A]

But do I think it's wasteful? Absolutely not. I love my $3,000.

[D]

That's not what determines it being wasteful, though.

[B]

And. And that's the point.

[D]

That's what I said. We all waste.

[A]

I don't know what he's talking about is. In his head is some type of. That only buys fruit.

[B]

That's not.

[A]

And only spend toothpaste and toilet paper. So he sees anything that's not necessary as wasteful.

[D]

I'm not saying that about him.

[A]

So I'm not.

[B]

That's who I am. That's what y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

Y' all gonna sit here and let him.

[A]

No question. If I spend a quarter million on clothes a year, it should say that's wasteful. It is.

[B]

But I'm not knocking it.

[A]

I will say it's not.

[D]

So, Joe. Joe, what makes something wasteful? Maybe that's. Let's get on the same page. What makes something wasteful?

[E]

I think that's on the person.

[D]

That's what I'm asking this person. What makes it wasteful?

[B]

Yo, this just said if I spend quarter. I'm not. If I spend a quarter of a million dollars a year on clothes. Ish says that's wasteful.

[E]

He's famous. That's what you need.

[B]

Do you know don't make $20,000 a month. You spending it on clothes.

[A]

You trying to make me sound like burner boy.

[B]

You spent.

[E]

That's a part of your job. That's a part of job. You have to have clothes, though. You have to have clothes. This is a part of it.

[B]

Sitting here defending some Wait.

[D]

But what could come in here with.

[B]

A white T shirt on and some sweatpants every day and go to work. He does not have to buy a $3,000 hoodie. He don't got to buy a $7,000.

[E]

He's been for that long. He has to get dressed.

[B]

No, he don't.

[A]

You wrong.

[E]

He don't have to get dressed.

[B]

What he got on right now?

[D]

No, hold up, hold up.

[B]

What he got on right now?

[D]

That look like money?

[B]

A $40t shirt.

[E]

That shirt was expensive.

[D]

He got on a big.

[A]

He got on a big cleat and.

[B]

He got 200 t shirt. How much your pants cost?

[A]

Are those bodegas this important right now?

[B]

I'm making a point.

[E]

On your feet.

[A]

1200.

[B]

The sweatpants cost 1200.

[D]

Look at that jacket.

[B]

No, I know. And that's the point.

[A]

Right?

[D]

So.

[B]

All right, so let's move from the conversation, bro. We go. We. We being circular. He don't think a pair of 1200 black sweatpants is what? Wasteful. So we talking for nothing.

[D]

Well, that's why I'm asking. What makes something wasteful?

[B]

Some don't make 1200 bring home.

[A]

Why do you keep comparing me to that?

[B]

Because you just said that somebody looking at a pair of three thousand dollar boots is broke.

[A]

No, I know. I said if I got that brown boot it would be wasteful. I don't wear boots. I don't earn enough to buy $85,000 boots and go do what I want to do. It's wasted, wasteful.

[B]

But it's cool. But you do.

[A]

I'm not doing it. Y' all too broke for me to have to talk with you, right? I'm not doing it.

[B]

And that's the point. So look, when a be wrong, they go to insulting people. Nigga, you wasteful. We not broke. You wasteful and you making money with us.

[A]

I agree to disagree. I don't have a beef with you about your views. Please don't have a beef with me about mine.

[B]

I'm saying we. But I'm not.

[A]

But I'm not getting to brown in the Patreon.

[D]

I'm going to ask you what you think wasteful is.

[A]

I answer it. When you don't need it or don't have it. Any combination of the two. When you don't need it or don't have it.

[D]

So then, so you. So y' all disagreeing on what need means. That's cool. I don't want. We don't, we don't gotta stay here.

[B]

Contradicting himself if he say that you didn't need the three thousand dollar boot. No, you said need it, you got it for.

[A]

There we are. Why do y' all keep doing this? I have it. I bought it. I wanted it.

[B]

I'm not. Yo, you're not.

[A]

20 billion of them. That's such a point.

[D]

Don't we this broke and don't worry.

[B]

About what I'm we. Hey yo, my you feeling.

[D]

Yo, my you feeling yourself, right?

[B]

You got it to buy the $80,000 boost too.

[A]

So you just contradicted yourself. Yes you do.

[B]

You talking to me?

[A]

Yes you do.

[B]

Is you talking about telling you.

[A]

I.

[D]

Could not your heart.

[B]

I'm talking about the basic house.

[A]

I'm building a house. I am not buying $85,000 boots.

[D]

That would be wasteful if she's buying a $10 million house.

[B]

Stupid ass.

[D]

75 rooms.

[B]

I'm letting them get you.

[A]

That. I hate these. When they get up on this.

[E]

Everybody at home. I was not invited to BR sw.

[A]

I wasn't.

[D]

Shut up. You were.

[E]

Was I?

[D]

Uhhuh. Many times.

[A]

We need that. Please.

[E]

Like calm these down, boy. Different shades of the light skin in this.

[A]

Yo, that was funny as and yes.

[D]

Mona, you were okay.

[E]

I apologize.

[D]

No, you're good.

[C]

Who didn't know some Timberlands would have done. Yes.

[B]

Yo, like Africa. Yeah, it's hot as hell in here.

[D]

It got hotter too.

[E]

It's hot from the that's screaming and hollering. It's not hot, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Yeah, it's hot. 81 in the room and that's. And then we got these lights.

[E]

That's my type of temperature.

[B]

I'm comfortable, but I don't ever want to see the temperature. Say 81.

[C]

Hell no.

[D]

I'd be comfortable. I don't like cold.

[B]

You on your period?

[D]

It's my time.

[C]

Blood loss.

[A]

I be cold.

[D]

Oh man, I love when y' all niggas argue like this, man.

[B]

Nah, hey, I'm chilling. Nah, he got you.

[D]

Well, Jersey, I need y' all explanation for this. Y' all hometown here hero legend who Tretch. Shout out to trench. Shout out to naughty. Shout out to red man. But I'm talking about shout out to press and shout out to price Sound surprise. Well, maybe. I don't know. I gotta get more details first.

[B]

But listen, I respect.

[D]

Croswell was just sentenced to 14 years in prison. Damn, they roofed him, man. Now his lawyer was asking for three.

[B]

They were prize prosecution wanted 22.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Oh dude.

[D]

And they split the difference. Damn near. And they gave him 14. 14 years.

[E]

And how old is he?

[D]

He's 53. So for a black man, that's basically a life sentence.

[E]

Uh huh.

[D]

Yeah, man.

[E]

Y' all only make it to 65.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. It's tough out here. But Prize, I'm pulling up the story. Prize is he was sentenced basically for illegal foreign lobbying and sort of conspiracy charges. The government is basically saying he betrayed his country by smuggling money, transferring funds to different places, political campaigns, et cetera.

[E]

This is the United States Government saying.

[D]

Yes. U.S. government saying it's. This is a tough one, man. This ain't like drugs. This ain't like. You know what I mean? It's even hard to get a pardon for shit like this. Cause it makes presidents look crazy. Cause I thought Prize may get a presidential pardon, but with these charges, it's gonna be tough, man.

[E]

It's like some traitor shit.

[D]

Yeah, that's basically how they're framing it, man. Which is rough. The one thing I'll say. And we ain't gotta stay here long, but the one thing I'll say is there are other people who do this who don't get these charges. Just like you see black congressmen who get caught.

[E]

The whites.

[D]

The whites.

[E]

This is the whites.

[D]

Oh, it's always the whites.

[E]

The whites always could do shit.

[D]

Yeah, man. And when they get caught, they give them different charges, but they're basically framing him like a traitor to the country, which, again, is hard to beat. So, you know, I'm not surprised. Cause Praswell talked about it and he said, I'm probably gonna have to fight this from.

[B]

From inside.

[D]

From inside. So that meant he knew he was gonna be found guilty.

[A]

He knew he was gonna to lose.

[D]

But the only way I can see him. Him beating.

[E]

Did he blow trial or he bleed out? He probably took it to trial.

[B]

He went to trial.

[D]

He went to trial. He went to trial. What they offered him, they didn't offer him. Yeah, basically, they offered him.

[B]

Yeah, they probably offered him 30.

[D]

They offer.

[E]

Yeah, for real.

[D]

I think either 30 or 20.

[E]

No, if they. If you get 14 at trial, the offer isn't worse.

[B]

The off.

[E]

The trial's always the tri. What happens at the trial is always worse than what the plea offer was.

[B]

That's not true. Especially when you rich.

[E]

Thank you.

[B]

Especially when you're rich.

[E]

I just look to the closest criminal I could find.

[B]

Michelle obtained. Michelle obtained over $120 million from Malaysian billionaire Low. Take Joe, also known as Joe Low. And steered some of that money through straw donors to the Obama campaign. They said he was getting money from a whole bunch of foreign nationals and lobbying to political contributions.

[E]

He had no connections to the people.

[B]

No he had connections elections, but that's how shit get done. Laws get passed, etc.

[E]

Lobbying is legal though. I'm confused.

[D]

Yeah. If you register and it's in the United States. You can't have. You never want foreign countries influencing your country's elections. So that. That's the drama. But 14 years is a long time, man. And I know last year when the fugees were on tour, part of what prize was trying to do is make as much money as possible to help, you know, promote his legal defense and to also just, you know, keep moving. So when that didn't work out so.

[B]

Well and say had the forfeit a lot of money too. It's like 60 some odd million.

[D]

60 some million dollars.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Which out of PR ain't got 60 million dollars.

[E]

Maybe he does have the. After taking all them checks. Cuz lobbyists take money. Maybe.

[D]

You know what, let me. He said he didn't have it. I'll just say that.

[E]

Okay. So he know he going to say got that money.

[B]

Got that money, man. That's up man. Trying to get my prize pay 65.

[D]

Jersey report his to it. East Hanover.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

Disrespectful.

[D]

Where you from? Well, we. I hope for him. I don't want anybody to do that much time, you know what I mean for something like this, man.

[B]

Hopefully he gets the best something that's done every day.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That's my thing.

[C]

Risky game to get into if you're not used to swimming in them waters.

[D]

That's exactly right.

[B]

And you are going to be a guppy when they come to down to us versus you.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's your black ass over there in front of the sharks.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

That's horrible.

[A]

That's horrible.

[D]

So I was on Twitter this morning, not you. Hey, I prepared for the show and. And as I was on Twitter, I saw Simone Biles in the mirror and she was telling us, walking us through her breast enhancement surgery.

[A]

Huh.

[D]

And she was talking about and breaking down when she got the surgery, how she got the surgery, what size they were, the pain she was. It was sort of nice to see somebody be honest about that. But I guess the question I had for y' all was sort of. Because there was. Oh, let me say this first. There was a time where that didn't happen. There was a time where people didn't talk about their surgeries. And you had to just assume they.

[C]

Popped up with some new titties.

[D]

Right. And they talked about new titties.

[B]

No, they lied.

[D]

Now it feels like titties are Permissible to talk about. There's other body parts people still pretend they didn't get done.

[B]

No, they talk about them too now. Yeah, now they advertising.

[E]

I think the number one way is, is this surgeon about to give me a discount for telling these people what I'm doing?

[A]

I think that's work something out.

[E]

If I can get 40 off by saying Dr. Colonial Hernandez is the one that did my. You know, I'm going to tell him. I'm gonna tell the story. Other than that, I owe you nothing. Would you see these new hips and ass? What's up? I tell. If these give me a discount and I am in the market, I want a tummy tuck. I want a breast augmentation.

[A]

Full detail.

[E]

Yeah. I want everything.

[A]

It works.

[E]

Yes. I want. I want to walk in here. Y' all be like, who the is that?

[D]

But see, that's what I'm talking about. Like, if. If you walk in up here, like, if you came here, let's say you took a month off. You say you on comedy tour or whatever, you just come back with a whole new body.

[E]

That was the plan. And I was gonna sit the pillow down, just be like, I ain't tell these motherfuckers no ass jokes.

[D]

You weren't gonna tell us nothing.

[A]

I mean, you want like a fat ass or moderately fat ass or just a little plump?

[E]

Like, what are you looking to get all that? Like, sometimes I want like a disturb the room ass, but it's like, oh, my God, how can I be this funny with ass that fat? You know what I mean? It's too crazy. So I might just like go get my old ass. Because I had ass most of my life, so I don't know. But I'm in the middle of that. Do I want like a big old stinky dookie?

[A]

I love when the girls is going to get ass. Say I always had ass.

[E]

I've always had ass. I have proof we're not.

[D]

So why don't go back and get the.

[E]

That one Mark, We been rolling all day. I. I mean, you come in, you know, I don't know people. Oh, well, you don't go do cringes off like, oh, yeah, what are we talking about?

[A]

Take the shortcut.

[E]

If that's what you want to call it.

[D]

Does it ruin the mystique for y' all knowing that it's surgical versus non surgical.

[E]

Y' all care no how it looks. Y' all was in here praising natural bodies earlier, and it's like, that's cool. But the mass.

[B]

When we talked About.

[E]

We talked about Kelly Rowland. We praise natural bodies. When I came in that's what we were talking about. What I'm saying is the mass her right.

[A]

We praise and we praise natural bodies but everything Kelly rolling, everything Kelly rolling.

[E]

But what did we include? Eating veggies, working out, being spiritually happy, everything. Then that's what come in. You looking really good. But the masses online, that's not what you see. People looking for a different type of body. You know what I mean? That's what people call attractive nowadays.

[B]

Kelly Rowland got breast implants. You know that right?

[E]

Huh?

[B]

Kelly Rowland got breast implants.

[D]

I'm sure I didn't want to say that. I was thinking that when you say I didn't want to say that that.

[E]

Doesn'T take away that she still has a natural look like she has like a natural. That's the closest thing you going to get to a natural body in 2025.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm hard pressed to find bitches that don't have nothing. Nothing.

[D]

Yeah. And I don't care. It's your body. Do what you want with.

[A]

They do exist though.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm sure they're not dinosaurs. Yeah they out there. They out there. Everybody can't afford to go get the nip tuck chop chop.

[B]

They, they heading down the sabertooth tiger list though.

[A]

I always think it's good when the gymnastic chicks get the implants.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz they still got like the.

[C]

It's no nice way to say it.

[B]

It's no good way.

[A]

Go ahead. You go ahead.

[C]

Don't say it.

[A]

No don't let them go do it. Go ahead. They still, still got lots. It's still like pectorals. It's like they say be spread apart. You know how they be it be the little balloon, bad chest in the middle.

[D]

Simone did say that.

[A]

Cuz you know they didn't have the skin anyway to do it the right way so they stretched that, they stretched the out that little little titty. Now M. I didn't see Simone B. I'm not talking about Simone B. I didn't see that.

[C]

I'm aware of the tit.

[B]

I know exactly what you talking about.

[D]

Simone said she, she said the big, the biggest part of my body is my shoulders. She has very wide shoulders. She's four foot eight.

[E]

Yes she do.

[D]

And, and she said that that was part of the. The process was getting something that fit her and it made sense for her very muscular body.

[A]

Is it an audiobook of it.

[E]

I hope it made her feel good and beautiful. Hope she Enjoyed them titties.

[A]

What you think is.

[D]

And she said, a man loves it.

[B]

I think it's dope. If she feels that she wants to enhance her body to make her feel more feminine, man, I think that's fire. I really think that's dope.

[C]

We all do. I just love us trying to like work out this.

[A]

No, you can't say, I love Martin bringing in these things to watch us do it. I was scrolling X and saw Simone B. Got some implants. And this is the right room to discuss it.

[D]

Mark.

[B]

Marches want to set us up.

[C]

That's all it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, here's what I got for you guys. Actor Michael beach, not familiar.

[B]

Shout out to Michael Beach. You know, the war. And from Mayor Kingston. I just got poked up.

[C]

Oh, okay, okay.

[A]

Y' all know Michael.

[B]

I didn't never know his name.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't know his name.

[A]

Michael beach lives with his wife and ex wife all in one house. And in an interview decided to share about it. I have a clip. Let me know what you think. In my house, I live. How sinister you. My wife lives, our four children lives. And my ex wife lives. Okay.

[D]

Not normal. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But it works for us very well. And it's awesome. I don't know. I mean, and if you had asked me that, that, you know, 15 years.

[D]

Ago or even 10 years ago, I'd have been like, nah.

[A]

But it is, it. It runs so smoothly. It's crazy.

[E]

It's very odd, but with his work schedule and never knowing what's going to happen, when it's going to happen, where he's going to have to be.

[B]

I mean, last year I was out of.

[A]

Out of the country like seven months.

[E]

Davis was born. And when Davis hit two months in Australia, France, South Africa, Atlanta, he was gone for like five and a half months. If Tracy hadn't been here, I would have died or killed one of my kids. I don't know. Whichever one.

[D]

There was no way I would have.

[E]

Made it through that time without her help at all. It just would not have happened. When did he get cut the fuck up like that?

[B]

I hear a lot of people speaking on that. Like it's all. It's that it take a village shit. Like if they come together and everybody help each other out and hold each other down. And like she said, one leave. You still got enough here to balance it out. I think it's a matter of maturity. I think most of us don't ever reach that point. Cause of our emotional shit. But I don't think it's bad, especially if you got children by both women. I don't know if he said that. I know he said he had four kids, but I'm not sure if they were distributed amongst the two women. But if they are, then that's their sisters and they brothers. Y' all damn near. You know what I mean? In that situation, as already, I don't know.

[D]

I don't disagree. I think your family is your family, and you have to do what works for your family. And everybody's family's different.

[B]

Society could suck dick.

[D]

Exactly. I rarely meet people who have the type of relationship with their ex, even if it's cordial. We're living together. Makes sense. People are exes for a reason, and sometimes those reasons make it hard to cohabitate. If I had money and I were him, I would be probably inclined to maybe live next door to each other.

[A]

Move them closer.

[D]

You live real close together. But if it works for him, salute. I think that. I think that's dope. You know, I've lived with people. I live with, like, people who had two wives. I lived with people who had, like, a girlfriend and a wife. You know, things like that.

[A]

You lived with people that had way more than two wives. Don't undersell it, but I mean, some.

[D]

Of those people actually from the cult lived in my personal apartment even when I moved. And so I watched it up close and watched those dynamics. And even when people are all married together, it still can be awkward. Fighting for time, attention, space, ego, all that kind of shit. Cause somebody's usually older, somebody's usually younger, somebody's resentful. But if you can make it work, good for you.

[B]

Are they just living together or are they in, like, a poly relationship?

[E]

Relationship.

[D]

That's what I was just living together. And that's what I'm saying, like, yeah, that's different. No, but that's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's hard even when you're all supposed to be together. If you. If you broke up with somebody, I'm saying, I could imagine even more problems, even more tensions.

[B]

It depends because y' all could have broke up, Y' all dated younger, y'.

[A]

All could have broke up, and.

[B]

And maturity has changed and all that type of. And now y' all can see each other totally different and. And completely know many people.

[D]

I'm with you.

[A]

It's not a comedy. Common thing. No, great. That y' all understand. But what he's saying is nine and a half times out of nine, I.

[B]

Think more often I Think more often more so today it's becoming more common.

[E]

Especially for financial reasons.

[B]

I think a lot of people a don't talk about this. I think this shit is becoming a lot more common out of necessity for a lot of folks. For a lot of folks. That's one. But I think also if you. If you break up with your significant other on amicable terms. Cause a lot of times before we leave the relationship, we know the relationship is over. We just wait until it becomes super duper toxic. And then now it's that animosity and resentment when you break up. If y' all could maturely come down and say, hey, this doesn't work for me anymore. I love you to death, but you're just not my person anymore. I think there's a friendship that can still be maintained in that.

[C]

For clarity, when he talked about it, was he saying that this is his ex or his baby's mother? Cause sometimes his ex wife.

[E]

His ex wife wife.

[D]

That's exes be exes for a reason.

[E]

He said himself that he would 10 years ago, if you told him that, he wouldn't believe it. I mean, you know, I wouldn't even.

[A]

Want to be in that situation.

[E]

Yeah. That's the thing.

[A]

Even if it could run smooth, I wouldn't want to be in that. My ex is going to be that I absolutely loved and adored about her qualities that she still possesses. Now I'm going to have her in my house around the current person that I'm absolutely in love with. I'd be scared to death that my wife is going to come around the corner and just see me give a look that I never gave her. Right.

[E]

The first thing I thought was fucking. I would like they.

[B]

Really? Yeah.

[E]

That's crazy.

[A]

Well, the fucking part I didn't think about because the wife explained he ain't even really there.

[D]

Right.

[A]

He's not here so much. So there's times where she said, after four to eight months, he's gone, I could use the help. I could see where the benefit is. Having somebody in having for me, I could be imagining it wrong. But having somebody in here who loves the man, somewhere in the ballpark of the way that I love the man. And I love having somebody here who views my man like that and is down to help me because she loves my man.

[B]

Especially if they grow to love with them or especially if they have siblings in common.

[A]

That's the part I need to know.

[B]

I need a little bit more clarity.

[A]

If there's no siblings in common. Right. Then I'd Love to know how he would feel about it being the other way around. Like if her ex husband was an amazing caretaker, it would never happen. I can't say that he sounds open minded.

[B]

He does sound open minded.

[A]

He sounds open minded. So I don't just write him.

[B]

Never. Cause like he said, if you'd have told him this 10 years ago, he'd have said never. True.

[A]

And if he's not there again, if I'm thinking outside the box, I want somebody there that loves her the way that I.

[B]

That I trust immensely. All of that stuff matters.

[A]

But it's very unique. It's not common. Well, I is saying it's becoming more common.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Even if that's true, I ain't heard people begin to speak about it. Maybe I'm on the wrong tik Tok algorithm.

[D]

Similar.

[B]

I'm just saying Lou Will situation is similar. Like it's similar.

[A]

I don't think. I think this commonality. I don't think they're so similar. Lou Will had two girls and they live together. I think that that's different is becoming like me being married to my wife and then having my, my ex wife coming here as the caretaker to the household is a lie. Like whatever niggas do when they don't have kids, we can get jiggy with it. We can move around, bounce around, be creative. Is kids involved? Is ex wives involved?

[B]

I don't know, man. I could just see that shit going like, I mean if you have to bleep names, you have to. But like I remember before Swizz and Alicia was going on vacations with Mashonda, you could see it starting from there to just, just, yo, we all are family. We all are cool as together. And then next thing you know there's a. I mean they're uber rich. So it's a little different. I see. I can see people doing this out of necessity today. Me too. It's like I had somebody proposition that and I knew they were doing it out of necessity, but they gave up.

[D]

Like a former.

[A]

Like a. Yeah, yeah, they wanted to move you in.

[B]

No, it was the other way around. It was the other way around.

[A]

They proposition to help you.

[B]

They proposition to be the third.

[A]

The third Reddit get them.

[B]

I don't give a dog whistling to your. But anyway.

[A]

It'S, it's.

[B]

People need help today, bro. Yeah, like again, we, we sit up here and speak from a lot of out of privilege. Like a lot of are just doing what they got do to get by. And if that mean clicking up they come. Look up.

[D]

And that's the thing about Mike. I don't know his financial situation. It's hard for me to believe he couldn't work out a house with a.

[A]

It's cheaper to keep her.

[D]

Yeah. Keep her in a guest house. Sharing a house with somebody. Just a lot. That's all I'm saying. But again, if it work. I'm not criticizing. If it works, do it. Whatever works for y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Depends on the house. Depends on the house.

[D]

You know what? That's a great point too because if it's the.

[B]

If it's might have their own wing than a single family house.

[D]

That's a great point.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

I'm. I ain't on that level. So I don't even think like that.

[A]

Your house is pretty big and it cost millions.

[D]

It's not.

[A]

It cost millions.

[D]

No, it's small.

[B]

Nah, it's.

[D]

Well, you've been in my house. It's small, right?

[A]

Does it cost millions?

[B]

Who remember lives in New Jersey?

[A]

I don't even remember stuff like that.

[D]

It's New Jersey.

[A]

Jersey cost millions.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

That's the thing about Jersey. Not like the Philly real estate market. Oh.

[D]

I hate this.

[A]

That really real estate always.

[D]

Anyway you can buy half the city. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Could any. Can any of y' all do it ice aside? Maybe.

[B]

Yeah, I could.

[C]

I could see. I could see how it would be.

[A]

I get my current wife food and my ex wife food.

[C]

That would be the. The. It would be good when it's good and it would be absolutely nightmare when it wasn't.

[A]

Cuz I wouldn't want them talking while I'm arguing with.

[E]

And they're definitely going to talk.

[A]

Talk. I don't want my ex wife coaching my current wife how to argue the. Yeah, I don't want them talking and I don't want her coaching me through it.

[B]

Or your ex wife might be the ideal person. Yep. To reach you in your moments of irrationality. Like that could be a fly thing.

[D]

In theory, yes. In practice, I can't imagine no situation where that working.

[B]

Not open minded to it. I could be dope.

[D]

I'm not. I'm not open minded.

[A]

I wouldn't be bringing that combo. Yeah. I would skip it. I would skip it all together.

[D]

One more question about this though. What if your lady. Does the gender piece of it matter? Like if your lady says my dude, my ex dude could live with us.

[A]

There's no dude that's living with us.

[B]

I got one more question about this what's the ethnicity of the two women?

[E]

Black.

[D]

Really? That depends on y'. All.

[B]

That shocked me.

[A]

Me?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, in this Michael Beach's example, we know it. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I didn't say she looked light skinned, but I think she was black. Okay. In the picture, I couldn't.

[B]

Dog, you can't do it with the men, cuz.

[A]

Who.

[B]

Who would be the designated head of the household?

[D]

Oh, I forgot y'.

[B]

All.

[E]

That's paying.

[A]

Huh? What do you mean?

[B]

In most households, the man is the head of the household. In most households, I ain't been in.

[D]

One of them yet.

[A]

Okay, I'm listening.

[B]

So if you have two men living in the same household, who's the designated lead? Who make more?

[A]

Okay. Is it in my house? What do you mean two men living in the house? It's my house.

[B]

He said, yo, if your wife came to you and said, yo, we gonna have Russell move in.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like the same arrangement.

[A]

Russell is moving into my house.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And you still head of your house.

[A]

Where's the conversation be? I don't understand.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Russell, you having an Alpha fight in your house? I'm asking what trick is Russell trying to pull? What is Russell doing? What is Russell doing? Putting his dick on the coffee table. What is Russell doing? What has Russell done to make me think that he could be all right? Even if that wouldn't make him the Alpha of the house?

[B]

Money don't make you the Alpha of the household. My.

[A]

I never said nothing about money.

[B]

But if you own the house. No, if you bought the house and you own the house and Russell comes in and Russell's taking the garbage out and Russell's doing all of the quote unquote manly things, things around the house. Just cause your name on a deed, you might not keep that same privilege. That's wow to the woman.

[A]

This is a new world you've entered for me.

[D]

I never thought about this.

[B]

It's not a world that I'm. We have an objective conversation.

[A]

Would you?

[D]

Would you? How would you?

[B]

So I wouldn't never let another man.

[A]

In our objective conversation. I disagree with that. I don't care if you in there naked washing dishes and taking the garbage out.

[D]

I want them to. Not the naked part.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

When I get get home.

[A]

What is going on here?

[D]

If Russell want to wash the dishes and take out the trash, more power to him.

[E]

But not naked.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'd rather him not do it naked. It's unsanitary in my house. It's still my house.

[B]

I ain't that much.

[A]

There's no other Alpha conversation to be had in miles. Now, once we step outside of here, if you want to be like a thunder dragon, then that's on you. But in this house, Russell ain't moving in.

[D]

But if you feel like that, Jody.

[A]

Russell's not moving into it.

[D]

Then why can't Russell move in? If you feel like you can hold on to your act aless and you can still control your house, well, Russell.

[A]

Not moving in is not because of my alphness. That's what I'm saying. Not moving in.

[D]

What's the thing. That's what I'm saying. What's the thing that keeps Russell from moving in for you?

[A]

Huh?

[D]

We just said. Mike.

[A]

There'S no thing. There's nothing. Nothing is just.

[E]

No.

[A]

This is my house and Russell can't live here. I don't need an explanation for it.

[D]

No, I'm just saying, cuz. Cuz with Michael beach, we're like, ah, whatever works is possible. Shorty. Rachel can move in.

[A]

That's what that count said, right?

[D]

Okay, fair enough.

[A]

They understood that, right?

[D]

You can't understand Rachel moving in either.

[A]

No, I do understand a world where.

[D]

That happens, but not a world where Russell moves in.

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay, I'm sexist.

[D]

Talk about. I mean, I wouldn't do it either. I'm not secure enough.

[A]

No, wait, wait, wait. You tricked me. I understand a world where Russell does it. In their world, I'm so when it comes to me. No.

[D]

Right. But could you imagine a Rachel in your world?

[A]

That wouldn't happen either.

[D]

Okay, I asked y' all 2 weeks.

[A]

Ago if we could hire the bad nanny. Like what are we talking about?

[D]

Bad nanny?

[B]

But you base that on what you knew your girl would say versus what you thought you would want.

[D]

Get a miss she said we did.

[B]

That based on we know our girls insecurity levels and if we had the super duper duper fly nanny, it would cause a rift in our relationships. We're saying that in this particular instance, if your girl was accepting of it, would it be something that you would do?

[A]

Russell?

[B]

No.

[D]

Rachel.

[A]

Rashida. Oh, the bad girl. No, I probably wouldn't do it either way. I would do it either. It's two of us. We can get a nanny. We don't have to reach into our ex's bag to do this.

[D]

That was my other thought again.

[A]

If you're in. If you're in desperate mode cuz you guys like to speak for them, then cool.

[C]

No, I totally get the circumstance where there may be kids Outside of that, I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Russell.

[C]

Russell ain't coming anymore.

[B]

Russell not coming in the house.

[C]

Sorry, Russ.

[D]

Even if you. Russell good.

[B]

Russell, we not. We not good. If Russell think you coming in the house. We're not good. Oh, I thought we was good. You thought you was hiding around.

[A]

Does Russell have a car?

[B]

I wouldn't care. Have a spaceship. He better get in that.

[E]

He don't got no car.

[D]

No.

[A]

Or.

[D]

Or they share kids and it's like, this is better for everybody. We can raise the kids together.

[A]

Hey, Russ, what happened when Russell Carr is. I can't get out because Russ, this Russell guard is blocking. Honestly. And now I got to go throw the keys to you. Take the movie.

[B]

On the table.

[A]

I'm coming.

[D]

Wait.

[A]

Oh, damn. I got Russell street in my house.

[D]

I'm coming in any. I'm give any. Any capacity.

[A]

Would y' all hire a dude nanny? Maybe.

[D]

My wife suggested it. I v. Manny. Yes. I vetoed it.

[A]

You veto? You vetoed it, huh?

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. I said he wasn't qualified enough.

[A]

Oh, was he?

[B]

Was he?

[D]

I mean, he had 20 years of experience. He spoke Spanish.

[C]

But he also had a dick.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Five star chef.

[D]

Pesky penis.

[A]

Five star chef.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

He was.

[D]

He going to cook. He going to school. He was going to rest my school, all that. I was like, yeah, no.

[C]

Yeah. But why dick.

[D]

Yeah. Parts hit.

[B]

I appreciate that honesty. Hey, man, I wasn't.

[D]

I wasn't.

[B]

Security. Let's all set together.

[D]

I started from the top. That's my first. Yeah, I could I ready for that?

[A]

I just don't think. I don't think I'm insecure. Russell can't move in.

[D]

He was handsomer than me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I know.

[A]

He was taller than you. Yeah, he was taller.

[D]

I don't know if he was taller. Cuz we didn't do no in person. We had no in person. I beat the. Told that from the head shot. They got a head shot.

[A]

Can he come to friends? Gimmick.

[D]

Oh, I was ready to call Ice. He was from Columbia, Yo.

[A]

I said, can he come to friends?

[D]

No, no, not that Ice.

[A]

I heard. Oh.

[D]

Oh, man.

[B]

You forgot one.

[D]

Colombia.

[A]

You forgot one.

[B]

Oh, that was.

[A]

Oh, that's crazy. That was crazy.

[B]

I don't know. Somebody say that.

[A]

I said that. Boom.

[B]

Damn. Oh, man.

[A]

Yo, go Michael Beach. Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

Whatever works for you.

[A]

Works for you. More power to you.

[B]

My beach is better. Nice.

[A]

Do you guys care? Do you guys care that Neo is doing country music?

[C]

I didn't know he was.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't Know that he'll probably.

[C]

Buy some country music.

[B]

I think it's fine.

[A]

You heard it. I'm such a neo fan.

[B]

No, I'm a neo fiend. But I think that. But he's had songs with. With country music on artists.

[A]

He's got a hat on.

[B]

Appropriating that ain't making country music.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

This is. Why is it not country? Nothing about why is it he's just wearing a hat.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Nothing about this is country.

[D]

No, you got to see. He just wearing a country hat. That's it. And some tight ass jeans.

[B]

Not even no country tones.

[D]

Yes. S. I mean, I hear this.

[B]

I hear.

[A]

I'm trying to hear the country song.

[D]

Pick a different one. You put a little twang.

[B]

That is not country. That is not country. Chris Brown album. And I can't wait for a neo project. Yeah.

[D]

What?

[B]

No, we'll try to play with. And I like it, but it wasn't bad.

[A]

Fire.

[B]

It's not country.

[A]

That's some good country.

[B]

That's fire.

[D]

Nobody saw that. Mason Dixon had to beat dropping like that when it. When it. That was hard.

[B]

Some of that came Brown got a little.

[A]

Yeah. No, I got to get again it on. It's always the way you. The way you cry to your favorite song. Life is all in between the flowers you find on the uphill climb that keep moving on and after you stop chasing. I think. I think Neil thinks the guitar is what makes a country.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Ain't no so no lyric about trucks or whiskey. Whiskey. Or go fishing or something.

[A]

Life is about simple things. You can make life about the simple things. Be about the great America. Great American life. Going fishing.

[B]

What were the follow up lyrics to the simple things? The way you laugh and the way you cry. This. Yeah.

[D]

Right here. It just when the drums go away.

[C]

Still not.

[A]

No. If the drums were. I'm with Mark. If the drums were in there and those backgrounds weren't there, I think it would pass better than what y' all say. The backgrounds and these other noises. And when starts talking about a girl to your point.

[C]

He got to put a little tw twang on. On the Voice.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He did a little bit of certain parts.

[B]

And the beat could be a little more.

[D]

A little more what?

[A]

A little more what? Wait. Po. What is this?

[D]

This looks great.

[A]

Country music stars react to AI generated country song being number one in the US Oh. Oh.

[B]

Y up now.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You got Nashville involved.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Now you f up, up, y' all.

[B]

With the right about to that up. And that probably fire. That probably fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't play that though.

[A]

Where can I hear this song? No, I'm not doing all that. That.

[B]

What's the name of the song?

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm not going to itunes. I'm not doing it. People know Nashville let Nashville do. Do what they got. I'm cool. Not my business. Not my, my place. Let's see. Michael Beach. Oh, we got really sad news. We got really, really, really, really, really sad news. Yeah, we got through a whole episode of happiness. But I do, I do have to report on this. It is with great sadness right here though. It's with great sadness and a heavy heart that I announced to our audience. Nissan has announced. Oh that the Ultima as we know it will be discontinued in 2025. Moving forward, they are focusing on the electric version of the car that may or may not come out. But the one with the regular engine, damn. That one is discontinued. Continued.

[C]

See, if you would have bought the for E, he'd have had like a collector's item.

[E]

End of an error.

[A]

The funny I'm thinking about buying one for me. The Ultima.

[D]

What?

[C]

It's classic.

[A]

It's wasteful.

[B]

A lot of girls have smuggled a lot of whammy. Wham In Ultima, I was about to say drove it down south for Rashid.

[A]

And them dog drug mules and LPAs.

[D]

Man.

[A]

A lot of when they was in their teenage years was something that had an ultima. 20s, early 20s, 30s, you know the vibes where you had to borrow. Borrow her car and it happened to be an Ultima. Whole hood thought it was yours. You never told nobody. I got a real special relationship with ultimate. So this. This makes me sad. Yeah, well, we're really getting old.

[E]

That's a real class classic hood booger car.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[C]

It might be the classic.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully.

[A]

Sorry. I know that news affected you guys the way it affected me when I first read it, but it did. It's horrible. Yeah.

[D]

I think it might come back.

[B]

They got one.

[E]

You know, I had. I was so close to.

[B]

I was going to say what color you had.

[E]

Yo, I had a black.

[B]

The gold One was the 1 1N.

[E]

I had a black alter gold with.

[C]

The little hatchback rooms in it.

[E]

I used to pretend it was some fast. It was fast.

[A]

Classic silver.

[C]

Nissan and silvers, they go together.

[A]

It's true. Damn. Well, sorry Nissan.

[C]

Sorry Nissan.

[D]

Well, they building bigger though. They got a new hybrid plug in car they said is going to take over for the Ultima is bigger than it was diverse. What's the small joint?

[B]

Small Centra.

[D]

No, they got another small joint now.

[B]

But smaller than Versa.

[D]

Versus the little one. Yeah, that's the.

[C]

You drove.

[D]

It was close to out of Mitsubishi, but the same type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. But they said it's gonna be. It's gonna take over for the Ultima. It's gonna be like the 21st century Ultima, so.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It'll never be the same.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Just made electric Ultima.

[B]

Should have just made an electric Ultima.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This is gonna be bigger. It's gonna be like Maxima Energy, man.

[B]

I'm cool. Can't kill the Ultima.

[A]

Is there anything else in music that we forgot to. I know.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I don't know what, if anything, dropped.

[C]

Besides De La Soul Ransom and Conductor Drop, which is fire. He found some non conductory sounding beats.

[A]

Oh, great.

[C]

Yeah, it's different. Different pockets. There's drums.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's not all the. Huh?

[B]

This Ransom come outside? No, he just raps that just sit in the house and.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Yeah, well, yeah, that. Yo. Oh, you don't live over here. You live on one of them beautiful vacation islands. Yep. Just sit there in the sun, work out, eat yogurt, come up with. Come up with raps and rhyme. Shout out to R. He's on impeccable run, man. Absolutely amazing.

[C]

EP is out now. Short album on the Holly.

[B]

Yo, you a speak your girl? Tim's dropped the ep. A surprise ep.

[A]

Oh, get out of here. Yeah.

[B]

Seven songs.

[A]

I know it's heat on there.

[B]

It's called Love is a King Kingdom. That might be something. No, that's. Y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

She's thick like that.

[B]

What?

[E]

That's crazy.

[D]

She's been on some red carpets lately.

[E]

Yeah, big body, big body bins. Yeah, I see you.

[A]

You know, Tim's looks great.

[B]

Indeed.

[A]

And she's a great musician. That too.

[E]

That too. I guess. I know she was built like that, though.

[A]

Oh, let me see, let me see. Let me see. See? Yeah, I don't see anything else here. No, no, no, no. These we saving you off of Patreon. Let me see, let me see. There's nothing else here that I need to get to. I do want to play this clip of Ken the Man rhyming at Boule Cab just cause. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[B]

I think she just dropped too.

[E]

Gonna suck dick then. Please suck it from the back. I've been running for a minute. He been selling posts for a living.

[A]

I pray the next say my name.

[D]

Tastes like dirty. Come at the piss and I made.

[E]

My own way these still pushing to me they can get laid in my old hoe Playing games like I ain't the arcade why the soul treating me like I ain't me Like I ain't.

[B]

Hard Like I ain't like your mama.

[E]

Sister or your daddy Like I won't pull up to that addy now this Internet got them hard these podcasts got them weak why these acting like us and these acting like me Feeling like.

[D]

A honey kid enough I need about.

[E]

Fiverr a lot of hate in my industry not enough of y' all product telling y' all these still ain't safe.

[A]

Either you with me or you in.

[E]

The way Turn this rap into a race turn these beats into a safe.

[A]

Okay, y' all ain't in my way.

[E]

Y' all in y' all own way Never said something on like I need that 8 sound like the song too thirsty and these niggas too cheap can't.

[D]

None of them say they but I'm.

[E]

Like I said it daily and I love two honey man I give that to my waiters I can feed your whole family and still feed mine I.

[A]

Don'T give a about no hater, son Sheesh.

[E]

Who she talking to?

[A]

I don't know but she did it again. Yeah, she did it again. She just dropped can't none of them say they but a lot of them.

[D]

Say they eat.

[E]

Like all jokes she really hard as like no joke Ken is great.

[A]

And while I'm just playing from people that are great, here's some young boy out of Philadelphia. I have no idea.

[B]

Idea what?

[A]

Oh, here you go. D West D West bumped into this like I'm playing it, I'm playing it, I'm playing it I took one of.

[D]

Them and made bre my fiance this pay my bills and keep me out of the crime I build the streets of money you streaming the prom be the only west you know that rap is good as Kanye the D for the machine talk Conway sideways fish tell this like an entree at 40 point games they only shot my beyond trait that's tough defense I know how to cook beef but like my green way better a fake vegan you had good times Florida Evans great seasons I had a power struggle I grew up in K E play decent, don't ask about.

[A]

Nothing out of Philly could go man I ain't going to lie.

[D]

No money attach my ass not budget.

[A]

And it's one of them beats that just make you sound hard Shout out to D West I'm not Playing this whole thing because it's long, but he absolutely tore this freestyle up. I wanted to highlight it. Shout out to him. Shout out. Up and coming rappers out there getting busy that still got their heart and passion in this. We appreciate it. What else? What else? What else? Is there anything important?

[D]

Yes. Oh, Texas, you something too. Oh, your boy Pharrell.

[C]

Oh, here you go.

[D]

He's been in the news making some. He has offered some thoughts on the D, the E, the I play it for him.

[A]

Joe.

[D]

Look at what's going on.

[B]

The current political climate.

[D]

I. I'm just saying to.

[E]

I want to turn anybody off.

[D]

I hate politics.

[B]

Life inspires them.

[C]

It is.

[D]

It's a. It's a magic trick that it's.

[B]

It's not real. I don't believe that.

[A]

And be the side.

[D]

So I think when you pick a.

[B]

Side, you are only, you know, you.

[D]

Are inadvertently supporting division.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not a popular point of view.

[D]

But I just got to say, think about it.

[A]

The wells are Brian up. And that.

[D]

Okay, now that diversity's off the table, not equity's off the table. Now inclusion's off the table. So that makes me ask myself, okay, so how do we survive? Well, are there black people here for that tonight? And in your part, do you think.

[A]

For what it is that you do.

[D]

And who you are, do you think you're the best?

[B]

Okay, so do you want the job.

[D]

Because you're black or because you're the best?

[A]

Do you want someone to support your.

[D]

Startup because you're black or because you're best? Right. So I think now for me, it's.

[B]

About us having the best ambition.

[D]

That's the reason why you should support these businesses. Yes, they have to be dark and brown, but it should be based on the thesis that were the best, not.

[B]

Because we are a total shade of.

[D]

Of a skin color. That's a point of view that I have now that like that I'm resting on. And if diversity, equity and inclusion ever comes back in style, cool.

[A]

But in the meantime, let's save him from himself.

[D]

Oh, that's.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Stupid.

[A]

Jesus.

[E]

You get too rich. You just don't know what the going on.

[B]

You disconnect.

[E]

Yeah, he forgot Virginia. Where they from? Hampton.

[D]

Where y' all from? From ish.

[B]

Faring. I'm from Virginia beach, right over there, north of Hampton.

[A]

Virginia beach area?

[E]

Yeah. Like, you just get there out of touch. It's like. Like you talking about all the black people getting fired from cbs. Like all of them. Like, what the are you talking about? And only blacks and only the black people. Like, that's why we have to have those kind of rules, dummy. Like, I don't know why that's even like a debate amongst black people. This doesn't make it. It has nothing to do with your greatness as everything to do with your blackness.

[A]

Yeah, that's why I just. This guy, he has to know that, right?

[E]

No, they forget.

[D]

I think so. I mean, you know, a couple years ago, Pharrell was talking about being, you know, a new black. You talk about the new black.

[A]

I don't remember this.

[D]

Yeah, tell me when we get. It's sort of this idea of being a different kind of black person and a different understanding about the world and race and all this kind of stuff that amounts to statements like what you just heard to me. And I agree with everything Mona said. You know, it's like. Well, actually, he said two things that were. That I don't agree with. The first thing kind of slid under the door because it sounds like it makes sense. You know, I don't take a side. Not taking aside is something you say when your siblings are fighting. Not taking a side is what you do when it ain't your business. We are each other's business. And we have open enemies. We have real systems of oppression. We got real shit happening in the world. And it's like, oh, I'm not taking aside. We got racist over here. We got people abused by racism over there. I'm just gonna stay out of it. No, we got it. If you have power and privilege and a voice, use it.

[A]

Or especially because that statement. That statement is on I don't see color side of things.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

And then you follow it with, oh, you do see color.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

And this is what you think.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

When you see color, it's a little.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

He's nuts.

[D]

And that's why I don't rush to have celebrities. I'm not always like, celebrities need to say more. Not everybody. And not cause they disagree with me. It's just because sometimes it's not informed, you know? Lastly, you know, his point about, do you want the job because you're qualified or because you're black? Misrepresents the point of DEI and affirmative action, all that stuff. It wasn't like there was a line of unqualified blacks who were now let in the room. It was a line of qualified blacks whose blackness was seen as a demerit and they weren't allowed in the room because of their blackness and DEI and affirmative action was an intervention to make it possible for them to get what they deserve, not what they don't get.

[B]

Deserve to level a plan.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

Like we had to do it. It's not. It has. You know what I mean? Like, it's something we had to do.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

So, like, what the. This is stupid. It's like. I don't know, you have a family, you got friends, you got. I mean, you have family. It's. Everybody in your life is not on the level you are. It's like you don't even think about them. But that's why I really think people that get to that point, they. That disconnected, they're not talking to their cousins that work at target.

[D]

You're making $80,000 timberlands.

[E]

Exactly. You're not talking to like, you know, you ain't going to talk. The family reunion at that point, you don't know what the going on.

[D]

It makes it frustrating because I have such deep admiration for Pharrell as an.

[A]

Artist, but there's a world where he's always been a weirdo.

[E]

Yeah, I agree.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a world where, you know, it's not the money that did it to him.

[D]

That's a fair point.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

That's just who he is.

[E]

Cuz when hip hop looked a certain way, he ran around with an Asian kid making a different kind of music.

[C]

No, his Asian partner was.

[A]

His partner.

[E]

Who?

[C]

Chad.

[A]

Chad.

[E]

Chad, right.

[C]

That was his partner, like right from coming up.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't think she was talking about Chad.

[E]

I was talking about Chad. I'm saying when hip hop looked a certain way, he comes out and he looks totally different and his partner.

[C]

I see what you're saying.

[E]

So it's like he's always been a little different and then on top of that other stuff. But I don't want.

[D]

Yeah, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He kind of went into that in the. I did watch. Which is actually good. There was like a Lego movie made. And as his story, though, and he talked about that just coming up. He always was different. He always saw different. He always just knew he was different. Hung around with different people, but loved music.

[A]

Also. If you're saying I'm not picking aside, you should know when you're talking points, at least sound like you're picking a side. Right. Yeah. You speak all of that. I heard all that from Charlie Kirk. That was Charlie. Part of Charlie Kirk's whole.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Rhetoric with black pilots and yada yada, yada. You should be careful about that. He should be careful.

[B]

It's a scary message. Because that's not the Real world, like in an ideal situation, all of that shit sounds cool, but we don't live in a world where Joe Button can't make a phone call to get his son a job or motherfucker George W. Bush. Bush might go down in history as the dumbest president ever. He became President of the United States based on nepotism and family pulling strings. So in a real world, the qualified get the jobs, but in this world, that's not what happens. You understand what I'm saying, nigga? Half of the Ivy League is being admitted by legacy students that don't come from your qualifications, that come from your family last name and donations and shit like that. So I think that in the real world, his statements have no relevance. But in an ideal utopian situation, yeah, it would be something that's cool to say, but not today.

[A]

Why can't he just shut the fuck up before the Grammys? Like, we've done such great. The clips have done such great work and how they've presented all year long. And here you come two months before the Grammys with some of this cockamam.

[D]

This ain't gonna hurt, though. Being anti black, that might not be.

[B]

A bad thing for that would be.

[C]

That's gonna be a bad disagree with you.

[D]

You think so? You think it'll hurt in the voting for the Grammy?

[C]

People that are voted, me and Joe can vote.

[A]

I might.

[C]

I'm not going. I'm gonna block everything up with the music, of course. But there might be some people that like, that's fair.

[D]

Okay. Yeah, but that's unfortunate too. That shouldn't happen.

[B]

Would that be said, do you think you and Joe might be the majority or the minority in that?

[C]

I have no idea what the demographics are of the Grammy board, but.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

And again, we know that the Grammy, The Grammy board two years ago or three years ago have done their best to put out there a pivot that we're changing the way we've done things. We've gotten it wrong, we've had it wrong. We heard your cry. So, I mean, you may be right. Now would be the bad time for you to be right. Now would be a horrible time for you to be right.

[C]

I will also say that most of these award shows, the Grammys included historically, have been fairly liberal places of thought and speech. Like, people don't go up there speaking right wing rhetoric very often, but they often go up there and speak left wing rhetoric. So regardless of who you may think is in power and, you know, pulling strings or whatever, whatever, it typically tends to lean a little bit more liberally politically. So saying something like this is probably not going to help you at the Grammys. I. I don't think it'll hurt them either because everyone's looking at the clips as the clips.

[D]

Yeah, not for real.

[C]

Hopefully.

[A]

I'm glad I don't talk to Pharrell. You tell some that you're just glad that I a get you jellyfishes and.

[E]

You could tell people wearing that wasn't.

[A]

Situation it was time to be black. You can have. You can have the jellyfishes. I'm sorry. I'll pass the jellyfish for a Whatever.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I do have a part of the show for you guys. All right, let's get it. This is a little lengthy pause. This is from someone named Dimir. Hey, Dir.

[B]

All right.

[A]

What's up, Dimir? You guys ready?

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, jbp, I need yalls advice on something because my entire family is split right right now. My brother just got his first real job at 28 as a DSP worker, direct support professional for adults with special needs. Before this, he had the same kind of job hustle that ish had. So this is his first step into a professional environment. His new client is 610, 300 pounds, high functioning, can drive and honestly a gentle giant until he gets trouble triggered. He has a Tourette's like condition where once something sets him off, he starts spewing hateful and sometimes racist things. I'm talking I hate women. I hate I'll a child catch that word. Yeah, there real wild stuff. But otherwise his routine is peaceful. Eagle Rock park for the view. 7:11 runs Video games in the house. My brother's said at first they got along great until the other day. They're driving into Eagle Rock and before they even reach the view spot, he's speeding, honking and acting out. Then another car blocks the exact the exact view he likes a white family, gets out to take pictures and he gets annoyed immediately. Oh. They walk back to the car and as they're leaving, he yells out, yeah, get the out of here. You mind you, the people are white. And just for context, his windows are always up. So thankfully we don't think anyone actually hears any of this. My brother tells him, hey, Andrew, don't say that. That's not nice. And dude shuts down instantly. But on the ride home, now that his routine is off, he just goes into a full meltdown, yelling at every car they pass. Move, you fucking monkey. I can't stand colored people. I wish all colored people vaccinated vanished. I. I'd hang that monkey in a Confederate flag. My brother finally goes, hey, Andrew, you know I'm a colored person, right? And Andrew hits him with, I don't give a fuck what you are. They get back to his apartment and my brother said he didn't even wait for the car to stop. He hopped out, got in his own car, and went home. Now he's saying, man, fuck that job. I'm done. I'm more on the side of he's disabled. This is a part of his condition. But my brother says disrespect is disrespectful. Respect to the greatest podcasters in the world. Joe, Ice, Flip, Mona and Mark Ish. What would you do? Stay for the check or quit? Because the disrespect crossed the line, condition or not.

[E]

The whole time she's telling the story, I'm thinking she's about to say her brother punched this dude in the face or got lost his temper. I think you should leave. If you, if it's bothering you.

[A]

If it's bothering you, you the wrong person for the direct support, professional job where you help adults with special needs.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I feel like the answer is in the question. Yeah, that's the gig.

[B]

Yeah, but it's levels. And if he knows that's bothering him to that point, get out of there because it's only going to go up from there. Wait, what's going to happen?

[A]

Hold up, let's have this exchange. Because don't mix the hip hop slang because I get confused. What, what are the levels in this job of dealing with somebody else with special needs?

[B]

The left. His issue is. I won't say issue, but his thing is his condition. His condition is when he gets triggered. He spews hateful things with like, you know, hateful racist things. That's a different level than just another disability that you may have to deal with with somebody. Thousand percent. That's what I'm saying. So there's. Every disability ain't the same. So if I'm dealing with somebody with special needs, I might not have to.

[A]

But if your job is to deal with people with special needs, you don't get to hand pick with what special needs, which is why you're able to deal with.

[B]

I understand that, which is why I'm saying I think he needs to get out of that job. I don't think. Obviously you're at a point where. And he's new off the. I won't say off the street, but this is his first attempt at a Professional job. We don't know the level of discipline he has to deal with somebody like this. So this could go.

[A]

We do know he don't have it.

[B]

And leave now before it escalates.

[A]

What he should do. We. We agree on what he should do.

[E]

I don't even know why he works there. But that's another thing. In real life, them DSP jobs are so popular. They're so popular, so easy to get. I know so many people that have no record. No, they have no record of experience. Excuse me. Thank you. No experience. Some of them have criminal records that get these jobs. That's why you always see the autistic kid on Tick Tock. You always see somebody. Grandfather with Alzheimer's or dementia on. On Facebook because people that don't have no business with the job, they had the job. And now it's something that, you know, something that's normal for Alzheimer's. You, you, you know, capturing it, thinking, it's so cool. But it's like, you know, those kind of jobs shouldn't be your first job. That should be a passion for you. You shouldn't just work with kids because they hiring. You should just work with people with special needs because they hiring. That's my personal opinion in general about the job.

[D]

I think there's a step before quitting, though, and I agree with y' all that if you can't handle this job, quit before you do something stupid.

[B]

You need to get away from that.

[D]

But I would first go to the job and say, you know, is there an alternative assignment I can have? And the reason is because there are. For example, there are some people whose reaction is violence.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Patience. If I were 5 foot 2 and there was a 6 foot 8 man who was violent, they might reassign me.

[B]

Indeed.

[D]

You know, so they do have the capacity to reassign sometimes. Sometimes they don't. But if they do, because this feels like a very unique thing. You know what I mean?

[B]

But again, this is your first entry into it.

[D]

But this might be the worst.

[B]

The Patience. It's clear you might just not be cut for this.

[D]

And he might not be. But if your trigger is specifically racist stuff, and that's the thing, you call me monkeys and hang me by confederate flags or hanging other. That might be your trigger. That's different than if he just called me a ass. Right?

[E]

Y' all heard the part where he doesn't know. Like he's saying it's people that are white. He's calling a white person a.

[D]

Wait.

[A]

Yeah, wait, hold up, hold up. Hold up. It's not a direct racist thing stuff from someone that's. If. If your trigger is racist stuff, it doesn't matter that it's coming from someone that's not racist.

[B]

Who said they not racist?

[A]

He did.

[B]

He didn't ever say that.

[D]

Did he say that? I didn't hear.

[E]

He did say he wasn't racist, but he said that he would say those to white people.

[D]

But he might be of the mind and I don't know the guys. He might be of the mind that this dude really is a racist. And when he gets triggered, the racism comes out. I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying if that's how. If he's perceiving this as harm to.

[A]

Him, we being foolish now. Tourette's like syndrome. I'm with you means you gonna say some stuff that you might not mean.

[D]

No, no, Joe, you and I are saying the same thing. What I'm saying is the guy who's experiencing it may not be as informed as we are about, which is why.

[A]

He should not be working with special needs people.

[D]

And that's why I said, step one, get reassigned and see if there's a different special needs.

[A]

Yeah, get a desk job.

[B]

Yeah, no, I think that. I think it's levels. So to what Mark was saying, yo, you might get assigned to one person that has a special need. Everybody's special need is different and there are levels to that. So to Mark's point again, I was gonna say that, yo, if it's a woman, and let's say that person has a hitting problem, but they are special, special needs. To your. You would say, yo, you not cut out for special needs. Or would you say, yo, get reassigned to a different person that may have a different special need trigger than this particular person that hits people?

[A]

The former. If you ask me what I would say not to say that's the right.

[B]

I disagree with that. But I would say if you're in.

[A]

The special needs business, it's like. It's like a fireman when they call for fires and a. I only deal with fires from a two story. I only deal with small fire teams. You deal with fires how? What's the total difference? I don't get it.

[D]

I'll tell you why. For example, I know therapists who won't take patients who have a lot of sexual trauma exactly because of their own experience. They're like, I can walk you and heal you through a whole bunch of shit, but this is something I can't do because of Who I am, then.

[A]

That'S not the therapist I want, Joe.

[D]

No, no, I'm saying. No, no, my therapist. You're missing what I'm saying. I'm saying the therapist has been through some shit. So I'm saying as a therapist, I'm not gonna get out of the therapy business. I'm just not gonna take these kinds of patients. And I'm saying, as I understand you.

[A]

And I'm saying that ain't the therapist I want. Therapists protect yourself. But I want the therapist that's able to deal with my sexual abuse.

[D]

You miss what I'm saying? Listen what I'm saying. I'm saying for that therapist who can't take those kinds of patients, I'm not telling them to get out of the therapy business. I'm saying just assign yourself to patients who you can deal with similarly. Don't get out of the special needs business. Just assign yourself to clients.

[B]

Exactly.

[D]

Who are gonna call you enigmatic.

[A]

Horrible example.

[B]

No, I think that's a horrible example. What about the RNs that get groped by old men? Or what about the people that. These are women that work in senior care facilities and these men's are hand. And the men tend to be handsy. You don't say, yo, just leave the whole entire industry alone. You say, yo, I don't want to go in there with Mr. Johnny because Mr. Johnny keeps groping me. You don't just throw away the whole entire profession. You might just not be associated with that particular patient.

[A]

Yeah, I. I disagree with y' all saying. I just disagree with what? If you're RN and homeboy is grabbing your ass, cuz that's what they doing in there. Then that's the job you signed up for.

[D]

Job? I signed up pediatrics. When they don't grab your ass.

[A]

You're telling me about some you if you're in this gig, right?

[D]

And I'm saying in. In other.

[A]

You're saying lose the gig.

[D]

I'm saying instead of losing the gig, try a different department in the gig gig where that thing doesn't happen.

[E]

Joe, you saying that you. You don't have the real skill set for it at all. If you have to separate the therapist.

[A]

That can't talk to somebody that's been sexually abused because they've been sexually abused. Hey, you can take that to Central park, dog.

[B]

I'm a nurse. I signed up to help people and I signed up to save lives. I didn't sign up to have my grabbed on by patients. That's not what I signed up for. That's not the gig. We keep making ignorant. Be a part of it. That's not what the.

[C]

Equipment.

[D]

Tourette's is part of the gig. I'm just saying it might be part of the gig that I can't handle, but there might be other departments in the gig that I can handle.

[B]

And my thing is.

[D]

That's all I'm saying.

[B]

Like he said, you may not get to pick and choose.

[D]

You might not. And if you can't, then leave.

[B]

That's why I'm like, you know what? In the beginning, you just now getting into this, you ain't. This ain't your passion. You ain't been here for years. And okay, now I know I could deal with this. And not that you just your first step and you already at this. This might not be for you.

[D]

It sounds like it's not. But I'm just saying another intermediate step might be seeing if you could get reassigned to something that's a better fit.

[A]

You just got this job. This is one of your first people that you having a problem with. Now you want to go to the supervisor and see if you can get reassigned.

[B]

Good luck.

[A]

Maybe it can happen. I would fire you. I need people that can work with all the special needs people. If I'm in the special needs business, I don't have time to say, say, okay, Monica can't work with this person because Mr. Henry's 95 years old and might grab your ass. No, I need you to go. He still need a diaper change.

[B]

And to Mona's point, that's why they always got high turnover, and that's why they essentially be hiring anybody without requirements. Because most people don't have the mental fortitude to deal with.

[E]

They don't pay well either.

[B]

And they don't Pay.

[A]

Start a YouTube page, then go start your YouTube page. Go get in your comfortable environments. I, I think, I think there's too much of that going on today. Totally unrelated. It's too much of, of people assuming that America or people in America are in the comfort business or happiness business. I don't see it. Sometimes that's the job. Can you do it or can't you do it?

[E]

The world conform to you.

[B]

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a fan of that neither.

[D]

If you were the supervisor, I've watched you, I watched watch you do this as a supervisor and as a boss. You, you, you place people in positions to be successful, right? So if you were the supervisor and you were assigning people, you know Mr. Johnny grabs ass. You might assign him to Ish because he's not gonna grab Ish's ass as opposed to signing to Mona if he's driving, grabbing women's ass.

[A]

See, that's where you. But he might grab Ish's ass. We're in the special business.

[B]

We handling it differently though. But I agree, but you also are a mental health advocate. So you don't want to put people in, in places where they mental health is being compromised.

[A]

I'm not putting people with a not so established mental health to work with the special needs people. I'm not even ever hiring this nigga's brother.

[E]

This nigga went from selling, go to.

[A]

Walgreens, go to fuck and get a job where you comfortable and nobody.

[D]

Yeah, go to Walgreens to move it forward. Maybe wrap it up. There is an interesting conversation that has to be had with somebody on their first job is that you're gonna be disrespected. Sometimes you're gonna have to work through some discomfort. I'm not saying this particular thing, most.

[A]

First jobs, but most people aren't grown.

[D]

Doing their first legal job. That's true because I've dealt with this with family members who are 35, 40, coming home, going to their first job and the first you at the bottom of the ladder. And they're not used to that.

[B]

And so there's conflict of everything.

[D]

So you do have to work through it. I'm not saying he has to work through this again, maybe this ain't the job for him. But you also have to have a conversation with people like every time you get discomfort at the job. To your point, like you can't quit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

His is a little different because that.

[D]

This a unique situation.

[B]

He might do something like it could.

[D]

Go left and you end up 610. He might have already did it.

[E]

And the whole story I'm thinking that.

[D]

This whole lot of off with six.

[E]

Story, I'm thinking this boy hauled off and hit that boy. And she knew it. She wanted to know, should we tell, should she tell on him? You know what I mean? That's what I thought it was going to be about. Because I, I, I fear for those people.

[B]

Jersey.

[A]

Nope.

[E]

Exactly. No Jersey people. The thing about it is, the thing about it is is that the people at the lower end of our society, kids, special needs, old people, they get done the worst. That's why people have to protect them. People are supposed to be able to protect them. They shouldn't be the lowest paid. But teachers are lower, lowest paid. Too. That's just how our society works. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So you want the best of the best in there. You want that because you gotta think when that DSP Very rarely is the person that are dependent where they're driving a car. This drive. He has his own spot. All you got to do is go with him to the market. I do that on the weekend.

[A]

The world is a different place where you work with the special needs people, but you the focus.

[E]

Yeah. Real.

[A]

I just don't get that.

[E]

I just don't feel like this works for me.

[D]

It got to be.

[A]

In closing, before we wrap this up, I want to tell y' all about a show that I started watching on Netflix that I don't know the name of.

[C]

What is it?

[B]

What's it?

[A]

What's the.

[C]

What's the premise? I might have started it. Is this the author chick with the neighbor? That's the rich dude. The beast of me.

[A]

I love the show.

[E]

What is it called?

[C]

The beast. To me, I'm not.

[A]

I love this.

[C]

I'm only like three episodes in, so I don't know if I love it yet.

[A]

I'm only four episodes and I absolutely love it.

[B]

Okay, can y' all tell me what the show's about now?

[A]

If I tell you what it's about, you're gonna hate it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. But I am gonna tell you what it's about.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me go read.

[A]

First of all, what I want to bring it up for. Is this white. This white lady's name. This white lady that's in it.

[C]

Yeah. Claire Danes.

[A]

Drunk Reese Witherspoon is what I call her. Or like poor Reese Witherspoon.

[C]

She don't look nothing like Reese.

[D]

I gotta check it out to see.

[C]

She was from my so called life way back in the day.

[B]

Claire Danesis.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

To me, she looks like Reese Witherspoon if Reese Witherspoon were special needs.

[C]

Holy.

[E]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

This lady is such a great actress. She is, however. Wait, she plays.

[C]

She don't look absolutely nothing like.

[D]

She don't look like she knows Reese.

[A]

That's drunk Reese Witherspoon.

[E]

To me, I totally get the drunk Reese.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know what they told.

[B]

I totally see, I get it.

[A]

But what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying about this lady. She is like the white lady version of Liam Neeson. Every role.

[C]

I don't think you know white people.

[A]

Yeah. Or some of her roles. I'm telling you, every role that this lady plays is this Role. The role she's playing. The discombobulated lady that hasn't gathered herself.

[C]

That she does do that a little bit.

[A]

She. She. That's any time I've ever seen this lady. That is the role she's playing. She's back again this time. This time the plot is she's a Karen. There's a rich that move next. No, she is the Karen all the way way. There's a rich that lived next door that did some back in the day. She's the author.

[C]

No, he think that he killed her. His family.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He ran over a cat like eight years ago.

[D]

He thinks he killed.

[B]

No, let me read what the show's about.

[A]

No, I don't want the race the show button.

[B]

About everything.

[A]

A move next door that did some. It don't have nothing to do with drunk Reese Witherspoon. They just neighbors.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The only way she even know about this is cuz his dogs keep coming to her and she's like, oh my God, whose dog to this? And his assistant or security is like, yo, if this happens again with the dogs, we apologize. Here's a number you could call from that moment on. On this white lady pokes her nose in this business.

[E]

I'm watching it. I'm watching it.

[A]

He ain't said nothing to her. He never met her.

[B]

Wait, no.

[C]

Time out though, because he don't know. He's on her dick a little bit.

[A]

Once they met. Once they met.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He is minding his business somewhere. Don't even know this lady exists.

[B]

And she all.

[A]

She's caring. The whole show is based off this lady minding the neighbor's business.

[C]

Now she. He gets on her dick in like.

[A]

The first episode when they met.

[C]

Yeah. Cuz the dogs.

[A]

No, she went to his house. Cuz.

[C]

Damn dogs keep coming.

[A]

She went to yo. The security already said, yo, problem with the dogs. I got it. Don't worry about it. Here's my number. Call. She went to his house.

[C]

Oh, cuz he was building some or.

[E]

Something parks killed his whole family or her whole family?

[A]

His whole.

[C]

His whole family.

[E]

His own family's. Mind your business.

[A]

That's what I'm saying about drunk Reese Witherspoon.

[D]

Crazy.

[A]

The whole show is based on her mind and somebody else business.

[E]

Is she drunk?

[A]

No.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

But it's funny because she's great at this role. So she's discombobulated for the whole five episodes.

[C]

She got a discombobulated face for sure.

[A]

Done the whole movie. I mean the whole show. She can't Gather herself.

[E]

The commercial look good. I watch the commercial. I'm not even a show girl. I'm watching it good.

[A]

It's a good show. You should watch it. I haven't finished it. So if it ends bad, then let me.

[B]

Let me ask you a quick question and we can move on. I don't feel like you don't think that your neighbors are your business.

[C]

To.

[A]

A degree, but to an extent, if.

[E]

They cause it's a dog be on.

[C]

Your po, that's your business.

[A]

My answer to that is yes. And she.

[C]

He was building some, I think right on the crib like this.

[A]

He was going to the neighbors. Cuz he's trying to. He's trying to do a. A trail. He's trying to build a trail for them to jog on. And he wants everybody to sign off on it.

[C]

That's what it was.

[A]

He's mega, mega rich. So that's the conversation he's having.

[B]

I'm back to the. To Ish's question.

[A]

I don't believe that my. My neighbor's business is not my business.

[B]

I said, do you believe your neighbors.

[E]

Is your certain extent?

[A]

To an extent.

[E]

If they call.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

If they're causing any type of.

[D]

Y'. All.

[E]

Y' all over there cooking meth, that's my business. Yeah, y' all can blow the block up. That's my business.

[D]

But they're cooking crack, you'll be fine.

[E]

Y' all kidnapping.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Cooking crack. They don't bother. They don't hurt nobody.

[B]

Shooting skag you. Yeah.

[E]

If you kid. If you kidnapping kids, that's my business. I got kids over here. You might around grab the wrong group. Now you got my son over there.

[B]

Or if you kill the family. Your family, that mean you don't give.

[E]

A About his own family. Ten years ago, we don't know what happened.

[B]

We don't know why.

[A]

And that's before he even lived on over here. Why are you putting your nose in this?

[E]

It been 10 years. They off that. That's the.

[D]

If you kill people, you probably kill people. But yeah, I'm not. No, I've had neighbors that was doing crime. I ain't say nothing. I don't care. It's not my business. Like you said, as long as you're not doing nothing to harm us.

[B]

I do now. Now I do run my neighbor's addresses to make sure anybody on that registry list just.

[A]

Yo, that's.

[E]

Remember when the app came out ice. Remember when the app you said that's camera.

[D]

Karen.

[B]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

Mona, let's get a fight real quick.

[D]

That's somebody's on Megan if they a child.

[B]

What I got kids my.

[D]

He not calling the police. He just.

[B]

I just want to know. That ain't Karen. I didn't say nothing to him. I didn't blow it up to the.

[A]

What did you say you do? I want to see.

[C]

I've done this too.

[A]

What did you say?

[B]

Run the addresses on on the website to see if any neighbors pop up on that list.

[C]

The child molester list? Yes, the child molester list.

[B]

Sexual assault, all that.

[A]

But isn't the. The list. The list. Like can't you go on the list and just.

[C]

No, you put in your address all.

[B]

The registered people in the name. Remember the not like us cover?

[C]

Yes, it was that.

[B]

It was that. That's what comes up.

[A]

And you're saying you think that's caring?

[B]

I do.

[D]

How?

[E]

How no is.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Just let him answer the why.

[B]

I'm good, bro.

[D]

I got hear this.

[B]

I'm cool. That's my opinion, bro. I think that we pick and choose what things are important to us and we stand on that. I think that. So niggas running a drug enterprise next door is cool, but. And yeah.

[D]

Yes. Why does everybody. I never understood that expression. Pick and choose. Yes, we pick and choose. If my neighbor's selling weed, I don't care if he's molesting kids. I care because I have kids, period.

[E]

I can't.

[D]

You're not going to issue. To be clear, we're not calling the police on him.

[B]

I'm not doing that.

[D]

If he's a registered sex offender, I want to know so I don't. When you trick or treating, don't go to his house. That's not. Karen. I'm not. I'm not snitching. He's already been arrested.

[B]

I would love to finish my sentence for once.

[D]

Oh, my bad. When you said he thought you was there.

[B]

When people get on a registered sex offender list, all of them may not be molesters.

[A]

That's true.

[C]

It tells you what it is.

[B]

It tells you.

[E]

It tells you.

[B]

Yes, it does. It tells you their charges.

[A]

Can y' all let them talk? I want to hear them. Yeah.

[D]

Thank you.

[B]

It tells you the charges. You could go piss in the park. And if you get caught pissing in the park, you're gonna be on the sex register list. At 11 o' clock at night time, you pissing in the park. Ain't no kids. And now it's make gonna make me sound like I'm not kiddos.

[D]

And it says indecent experience, it'll say.

[B]

The charge, it will say in a park. So whatever the case may be, what I'm saying is a lot of times the stuff that happens to those people on that list, it may not be necessary. The worst of the worst, where our brain is gonna go, it's motherfuckers that had sex with 16 year old girls that may be on that list. You understand what I'm saying? They might have been 18, 19 years old, they had sex with a 16 year old girl. It may be on that list. If we gonna say mind our businesses sometimes. Cause I believe that it's nothing wrong with knowing who your neighbors are. I believe that your neighbors could potentially be your business for the same reason as your children. Your children still could be next door to a murderer. Your children, your children could be next door to a drunk driver. Your children could be next door to a whole bunch of different negative things. We gonna just pick and choose when that negativity is to be shunned.

[D]

Let me tell you how I see it.

[B]

Everybody opinion different.

[D]

I know I'm gonna offer mine. Now I think that the difference is, I think that if you're doing crime that doesn't impact me or doesn't have a threat to impact an immediate intuitive threat to me, then I mind my own. If you steal cable, not my business. If you rob banks, not really my business, could something come from that? Of course, right? Just hear me out. Of course, of course something could happen from it. But if I know that three doors down somebody has been convicted of a.

[B]

Sex offense and you're right and the offense matters, right?

[D]

And it would matter what it was. But if you say, for example, this person was a serial and they live up the street, I'd like to know that.

[B]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but if niggas was running a crack house.

[D]

No, but let me finish. And they lived up the block, that.

[B]

Could get shot up, I want to know that too.

[D]

And I'm not saying you shouldn't know that. I don't think it's Karen to know that information. I think Karen is, to me a Karen is when somebody minds other people's business and reports them and do something, right?

[B]

It's the action after the knowing.

[D]

To me saying, yo, son, daughter, don't go, don't trick or treat at 123 Mockingburg Lane because they're a sex offender. That's not Karen shit to me.

[B]

I agree.

[D]

That's all Ice was saying.

[B]

No, Ice said he Runs everybody's addresses in his neighborhood.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no.

[D]

That's not what I said. That's not what he said.

[B]

Put your address in it shows you around you and said. And then you click it, it'll say this person convicted of this, this date, this, how much time they did.

[D]

And all I do is want to know who the sex offenders are in the area. And I don't want to, I don't want to deal with them.

[B]

There's nothing wrong with not wanting your kids to go trick or treat up the street. I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying that if a again I'm.

[A]

Mad that that's what they landed on. I'm doing this cuz I need to know where to trick or treat.

[D]

Well no, no, no. I didn't say.

[B]

I asked Mark directly. So could be running a drug house next door and you don't care. And he said yes. And we.

[D]

I give a little more example.

[B]

I give a little neighborhoods where the drug house gets shot, the up right come from neighborhoods where tie up and, and kill, etc. Etc. So the element store to your kids still not gonna be a positive element.

[D]

I, I agree but I don't think that's Karen to want to not deal with them either. And also there's no doubt you a concrete example.

[B]

I said you don't care if they live next door.

[A]

Please let each other talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

What I'm saying is that I don't care if they live next door. With regard to my own safety. I'm not. That's a choice that I'm making. Right. If you decide to make a different choice and say, yo, there's, there's, there's they cooking crack next door. I don't want to live there or I don't want to. I don't want to invite them to the housewarming. I don't think that that's Karen shit. I think Karen shit is when you snitch Karen is when you watch other people's business.

[B]

The action to be Karen shit also is if there was a database that I could put my address in and it said, yo, two doors down is a crack house.

[D]

Guess what?

[B]

I checked that too.

[A]

Yeah, he would, he would.

[B]

I would check that too. Again, I'm being Karen, I'm just typing my address. I don't think you see what's going on around me.

[C]

There's also nothing wrong with information.

[A]

That's a good point.

[C]

If you see a bunch of weird sketchy happening over here, it's like, oh, they sell crack over there.

[D]

Okay, that's cool.

[C]

At least I know now, we all.

[A]

Live in neighborhoods where we assume that the house next door. Well, not Mona, but where we assume that the house next door is not.

[E]

I live in a really. I live in a really. Fuck y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

Fuck y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

I have a story that at first came out and you would just put your address in and it would. But I had. That's my first time ever living in an apartment complex. And my neighbor was an older guy and he was just an asshole. He would fuck with us. He would always say something to the kids. He would say something to my mom. My mom came over. This was a. I got that app and it alerted and it was him. And he had offenses like he had a couple story. And I couldn't understand this. What I couldn't understand because technically they're not supposed to live around children. So the part I couldn't get was if you get an apartment and people are in and out, technically they shouldn't live in apartment complexes because the turn.

[B]

Supposed to do is when they move in or something to notify everybody. That's what supposed to happen.

[A]

But let.

[E]

I never told him, but I did curse him the out and tell him you keep picking and I know your business and that shit slowed down because he was such an asshole. Which made me think he really was a predator for real. Even though his charters were like 15, 20 years old. He's an old man.

[B]

It's a dude that again, I ain't just writing my address. Ran my mother address because again, wherever the kids. Wherever the kids be, I need to know there's somebody that lived directly next door to her that was on the list. I look at what he's on and I was cool with the dude.

[E]

What kind of charter did he have?

[B]

It was severe.

[D]

Yeah, it was severe.

[B]

Hey, Ma, you know is on this list for this look. So again, it was a long time ago, but we got kids around, so I'm.

[D]

I'm.

[B]

Keep your eyes open.

[A]

I'm in the middle on this.

[B]

Yes, me too.

[A]

I'm in the middle on this now.

[B]

Me too. Hold on, let me just finish.

[A]

It is caring, but the risk is worth the reward.

[B]

I don't think it's caring.

[D]

Here's what I think. It's Karen. If I find out the dude down the street has a criminal record and then I call their job and tell them and say, did y' all know? To me, that's Karen ain't Caring, cuz I'm, I'm not.

[E]

You're doing the research for yourself.

[D]

I'm only doing it for me.

[E]

Do with it.

[D]

That's not caring to me.

[E]

When you, what do Karens do? They get in your face and call the police on you?

[B]

I'm telling you, the action is what makes it Karen. Just knowing some. Oh, that's a good point. Do y' all switch that?

[A]

Don't worry about it. No, no, you. No, you and Mark with your little gay jokes. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. That was not a gay joke. I heard you. I got strong.

[D]

Stay strong.

[A]

It was, I got, it was.

[D]

We were hiring someone to cook for us and I ran a criminal check on them.

[A]

You niggas are just bitches. Like, I don't have nothing else to say.

[D]

Like, well, she was going to be in our house and turned out, turned out. It was interesting. She had theft charge charges and drug charges. I ain't give a about the drug charges.

[B]

Are you coming to my house?

[D]

But you got B. You got you. You a 26 year old woman with B Es. Yeah, I'm not, I don't want you to.

[B]

I don't want you in my house.

[D]

I don't want you in my house.

[B]

I don't want you in my house.

[A]

She ain't gonna take your books and Nubian chains. African musk oil.

[B]

We got the diamond.

[A]

Oh, my God. All right, I take it back. Well, no, y' all are, but y' all are responsible. Thank you.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

I never even thought to do that. I, I, my thinking, my thinking is different. My thinking is different. I'm, I'm, I'm not dismissing what y' all saying. I agree. Y' all make great points. I never thought to do it because I come from you. You mind your business. Like, I don't care what my neighbor's doing until I learn that it affects me.

[B]

I think a lot of that is.

[A]

He did some in his past.

[B]

Like, I think a lot of that you mind your business is part of the problem. I concur if you stand in a funny stance. I agree. Like the, the, the when you go to the white neighborhood and the be out the window shades, they know what's up. That's what keep their neighborhood safe. They know what the is. We still look at it like, sit your old ass down and mind your business. I, I see both sides.

[E]

But when you had them type of neighbors, you feel good, cuz that call.

[B]

You on vacation around here.

[E]

Oh, that's my mom, don't worry. I just wanted to make sure you guys enjoy Cancun.

[D]

That's a fact. Because I'm definitely. When y' all come over friends, I definitely told telling the neighbors there'll be some blacks.

[A]

I also don't look at this. The same ice saying it as Mark saying it like ice. I kind of understand it.

[B]

That mean.

[A]

Hold on now. No, I'm not trying to be funny. Oh, all right.

[B]

While being funny.

[A]

I'm not trying to be funny.

[D]

That's what makes it funny, actually.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You fucking me up now.

[A]

Wait, Mark.

[B]

Mark.

[A]

Mark's. The way Mark carries it is a little more case. It's more true. The police. The police are crooked. Oh, okay. The system is crooked. As blacks, we face injustices. We gotta.

[B]

I don't believe in.

[A]

In prison. Abolish all of this. I believe in rehab. And so it's like I view it different than.

[B]

But he not putting no action.

[D]

And that's why I wouldn't. That's why I wouldn't yet.

[A]

See, see, that's where y' all story is inconclusive. I don't believe that y' all going through putting addresses in looking it up and then just stay inside. I don't believe that.

[B]

I don't. I told you. Look, look, look. I told you when I did my mom's address again. I've spoken to this dude. My mom's lived where she lived for years and he's lived there for years. Spoken to this dude a million times. Cool as never knew. Hey, but again, kids at my mom mom's house, my daughter play outside. I don't know what you want. I don't know if you reformed. I don't know. But hey, ma, be mindful. Be mindful. That's it.

[E]

You don't get reformed them.

[B]

I'm just. I'm. I'm.

[D]

I don't know. This is old school hood shit like.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

Once a tree jumper, always a tree jumper.

[D]

Hey, check this out.

[B]

You know a still and he come in your house. What you tell everybody, yo, don't put your down. Such and such coming in here because he's still. It's the same.

[A]

Oh, I'm definitely stealing out of Mark's career tonight.

[B]

Oh, me too. I agree with you.

[A]

I'm taking cargoes with the medallion. I know he got some X plan medallions in there framed up on the wall. And I gotta do it in front of his little educator crew too. Let him know I'm on it.

[B]

Careful. Look at him when you do It.

[A]

I might steal one of this.

[B]

Careful though, he got the.

[A]

I'll steal one of his friendship, man.

[B]

One of them educated whip your ass.

[A]

That be a fourth degree black belt.

[B]

While giving you a lecture beat your ass with penny loafers on for that.

[E]

Line of people that's going to want to talk about that. She going to want to talk about the podcast.

[D]

People got exclusive warnings not to do.

[E]

That cuz I know they want to.

[D]

People don't do that. I mean, you know your friends probably. Yeah, yeah. Most people chill. Some people weirdos. But I, I, if I see that I stop. Mo, you coming through? No, that's a no.

[A]

No, she's not.

[E]

If it was tomorrow I would have.

[A]

Been there waiting on Mo to hit the strip club with me.

[E]

Don't do that.

[A]

How could you lie to me?

[E]

That was up.

[A]

Listen man, I think we got to the bottom of it. We did it.

[C]

We did it.

[A]

We did it. I'm going go type my address and see what the got going on. Just to be nosy now.

[D]

Going to be like Karen, right?

[A]

Keith.

[D]

Wait, this red dot is real quick. Hold up.

[A]

We got an announcement. We got an announcement. Big moment.

[B]

Big.

[E]

I have a stand up show in Atlanta. It's two shows in one night. I never did that before. Don't embarrass me.

[A]

When is it?

[E]

Because It's a. It's November 29th in Atlanta somewhere and the link is in my link tree. But don't embarrass me because I never did that. If you don't sell enough tickets on the second show, they cut it bottom tickets.

[A]

Well, you're supposed to sell out the first one and then sell the second one. That's bold.

[E]

Oh well, yeah, whatever. Buy it.

[B]

Yeah, you got it. No, what you do is you saying we sold the first without so we added a second show.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

That's how you, that's how they trickle. Create the demand for.

[D]

That's it.

[A]

We up in that piece, man. Let's get it Big Mona. Yo, y' all hold it down, man. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Stay safe, stay blessed, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time it goes. Until the next time we bid you a due farewell. Adios, arrivederchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have Oops. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure to stack. Pregnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. You just might need it. We got a weekend. What's going on? Anybody doing something this weekend? Mark.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

First giving.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

Well, besides Mark's friends giving where I'm stealing something. Yo, Shies allowed. I mean, I'll take my shoes off, but I will have a shisty.

[B]

My shiesty dog.

[A]

Oh, man. That's it, man. Hopefully y', all, y' all enjoy your weekend. Stay safe, stay blessed. We supposed to have a cold front coming sometime soon where the weather's gonna drop in the 30s.

[B]

I don't care. The heat on already.

[A]

Buy you a coat. Turn the oven on. Buy a little space radiator. Ish got force tennis.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[D]

Hey.

[A]

You was on fire. This. This episode is. It will be to your detriment. Next week. I'm going home to write. I'm going home to write because you had. Don't think that you just. That's the end of the beef.

[B]

I'm spinning.

[A]

Don't think that's the end of comedy. The comedy hour. No heat check or nothing. Just check out. No, no, no. I'm going to right for him.

[B]

I'm going to right for him.

[D]

He came out smoking.

[A]

He got his off today. I like that. I like that.

[E]

From ish, Collard greens, fried shrimp, fried fish, macaroni cheese. Been sitting over there for about two hours.

[A]

Yeah, we got Chef Edith and Chef Kino going. We got Chef Sade over there not doing nothing too. What's up now?

[E]

She looking good.

[A]

Watching a God at work. Yeah, I mean, you watching daddy. You like watching daddy at work? Look at you, right? Look, I know she like it. She like that. I told him all that you said about that brawler gay that show last night too. Yo, shut the flip jump anyway, y' all be safe, yo. We absolutely love y'. All. Thank you for listening. Subscribe to everybody's Patreon. Who has one until next time. Hey, wait a minute. Hey, Brandy, Kelly, Monica, Money loan. We love you. Oh, my God. I absolutely love those ladies. Round of applause, Round of applause.

[E]

I don't got no problem with gay people. Gay people work for me right now.

[A]

I'm damn near around gay people every.

[D]

Day cuz they work for me.

[A]

I got no problem with you.

[B]

Holy.