Episode 884 | "The Top Package"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 884 | "The Top Package"

Date: December 6, 2025
Podcast Network: The Joe Budden Network
Host: Joe Budden (A)
Cast: Mark Lamont Hill (B), Parks (D), Ice (C), Ish (F), Damona "Don't Call Me White Girl" (E), others

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode is a quintessential Joe Budden Podcast experience: a meandering, wildly entertaining conversation bouncing from Philly pride, dating stories, cultural observations, hip-hop industry news, and the fallout from the Netflix/Warner Bros megadeal. At its core, the pod reflects on relationships (romantic, platonic, and business), nostalgia for the culture’s past, and the ongoing saga of artists, gatekeeping, and the cost of fame. Punchy one-liners, confessions, and open debate are everywhere, creating a lively and highly engaging listen.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS

1. Philly Banter & Relationship Stories

• Good-natured bullying and regional rivalry between Philly, Jersey, and Buffalo sets the comedic stage.
• Philly women are hyped for their uniqueness and desirability, with jokes about "Philly girls" and, humorously, "juice box" tattoos.

  “Philadelphia p***y is very sought after.” – Damona (E), [00:58]

• Philly-centric dating experiences—stalking, crazy exes, and wild nights—spiral into stories about dating women who identify as lesbians or studs and the nuances (and rare confessions) from the men.

  “When you meet the girl that really only like girls, but then she likes your d*** and now she's open to men...that girl's a nutcase. That girl is an absolute stalker. Deranged.” – Joe Budden (A), [09:27]

• Stud/lesbian dating tales: Ice and Mark are razzed about being with masculine-presenting women; playful shaming ensues.

  "So you mean to tell me...out of all the n****s in Nebraska...she got curious and said, you know what, I need some...?" – Joe Budden (A), [13:30] “Would y’all do it again?” – Joe Budden (A), [16:15]. “No, even if we were single...I would not.” – Ice (C), Mark (B), [16:22]

• Everyone admits to having, at some point, hooked up with someone “crazy,” and the crew philosophizes about men’s tolerance for chaos in the pursuit of attraction.

  “If you in the crazy girls, you probably ain't got enough experience.” – Joe Budden (A), [05:54]

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2. Netflix Acquires Warner Bros Discovery: Industry Fallout

• Major discussion starts [31:36], reacting to the $82bn ($87bn?) Netflix acquisition.

  “Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers.” – Ice (C), [31:41]

• The group pivots from Netflix’s humble DVD beginnings to now dominating media, sports, and live events.

  “Netflix is the behemoth on the landscape...they fought Blockbuster!” – Mark (B), [32:03]

• Concerns over antitrust issues, monopoly, and what it means for creatives and consumers.

  “They basically have a monopoly over the streaming industry. That’s not what you’re supposed to have.” – Mark (B), [37:45]

• Back catalog value: Future of classic shows like The Wire, Sopranos, Game of Thrones, etc.

  "Now you got all the Oz, Entourage, Sex and the City, The Wire catalogs.” – Parks (D), [33:09]

• The death (or survival) of movie theaters: debate over streaming convenience vs. irreplaceable experiences.

  “It takes the thing out of the movies. Your first date at the movie theater, you got a hand job—it’s a thing for you.” – Damona (E), [40:21]

• Netflix password crackdown and subscription sharing:

  “They shut that s**t down. That message comes up: ‘Five of y’all using this account.’” – Damona (E), [42:38] Jokes about who does, and doesn't, pay for Netflix—roast session for Ish (F).

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3. Puff Daddy’s Documentary: Reaction & Reflection

• [45:25] Crew details their reactions to the new Puff (Diddy) doc, which trended higher than Stranger Things, discussing its storytelling and what’s new versus old info.

  “You could tell multiple stories. There’s another story about Puff you could tell that would leave you feeling different...but this one felt true.” – Mark (B), [46:02]

• Toughest revelations: Biggie's funeral expenses, violence in his upbringing, and allegations of exploitation.

  “If any two things in this four-part thing is true, he’s a monster.” – Joe Budden (A), [55:10]

• Documentaries' impact on public perception; debate over how “fair” they are, and what gets left out.
• Notable discussion of whether certain stories (Puff, Suge, etc.) deserve similar big-budget docs.

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4. Beef & Industry Woes

• The recurring segment “Beefland” explores Snoop Dogg vs. Daz, Brandy vs. Beyoncé, and whether Brandy’s supposed beef is borne of actual dislike or just career trajectories and media narrative.

  “If you think hard enough…the big big celebs will never say, but…the people that they’re never associated with…I assume something’s going on.” – Joe Budden (A), [73:15]

• The panel turns to Meek Mill’s complaints about older Black artists not passing down business information.

  “We can’t look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us. But for a white man, they’ll twerk…” – Meek Mill tweet, read by Joe (A), [142:46]

• Heated debate: Is it age, business, or something deeper? Panelists argue both sides, citing times they have—and haven’t—gotten mentorship.

  “Bun B ain’t gonna hate on nobody... I can name a list of OGs who’ll talk to you. I can’t speak for Meek’s experience.” – Joe Budden (A), [151:31]

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5. Roasts, Tangents, and Quick Hits

• Rapid-fire topics cover Chris Paul’s Clippers exit and the nature of veteran leadership ([101:52]), LeBron’s scoring streak ending ([116:49]), and the complexities of “moving fast” in relationships as celebrities ([124:58]).
• Joe recounts listener letters asking for advice on everything from raising a child with an ex-addict to what the crew would tell their partner if that partner had amnesia ([177:34], [183:44]).
• More classic banter: sneaking into strip clubs, favorite children, people with no tattoos or no kids, and elevator flirtations.

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NOTABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS

On Dating Studs/Lesbians

• “So you mean to tell me…she got curious and said, you know what? I need some…?” – Joe Budden (A), [13:30]
• “I love when I used to…he simplifies everything. So you mean to tell me he’s an entry-level d***?” – Mona & Joe, [13:09]

On Netflix/Warner Bros

• “Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers. Acquired. Did it acquire? Yeah. Not even acquired.” – Ice (C), [31:41]
• “They basically have a monopoly over the streaming industry…” – Mark (B), [37:45]

On Movie Theaters

• “It takes the thing out of the movies…If you were going to movie theaters since a kid, your first date at the movie theater, you got a hand job. It’s a thing for you.” – Damona (E), [40:21]

On Puff Doc

• “If any two things in this four-part thing is true, he’s a monster.” – Joe Budden (A), [55:10]

On Meek Mill's Gatekeeping Complaint

• “Anytime you get on a platform and start 'the Black men don’t…' you b****ing.” – Joe Budden (A), [149:34]

On Chris Paul Exit

• “Whatever Chris Paul did, he doesn’t deserve that.” – Ice (C), [116:43]
• “You have to know when to not be what you are.” – Joe Budden (A), [103:26]

On Handling Fame & Relationships

• “Moving in a stranger was fire…Moving fast is a blast.” – Joe Budden (A), [126:10], [125:18]

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TIMESTAMPS FOR IMPORTANT SEGMENTS

• [00:28] – Philly bullying, "hating everybody"
• [09:27] – Lesbian/Stud attraction stories
• [31:36] – Netflix buys Warner Bros, media/industry implications
• [45:25] – Puff Daddy doc takeaways
• [73:40] – Brandy/Beyoncé beef rumors
• [101:52] – Chris Paul Clippers saga
• [116:43] – LeBron 10-point streak ends
• [124:58] – “Moving fast” discussion, fame/relationships
• [142:46] – Meek Mill’s “OGs/gatekeeping” complaint
• [177:34] – Listener question: “My ex is pregnant and it’s mine”
• [183:44] – Listener question: Amnesia—what would you tell your partner?

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OVERALL TONE

The episode is wild, punchy, and rich in inside jokes and honest reflections—the kind of energy fans have come to expect. Joe maintains his role as instigator and unfiltered narrator, while Mona and Mark offer sharp, sometimes contrarian perspectives. The whole team riffs off one another, switching easily from banter to real talk, especially on industry insider issues, relationship lessons, and the unending complaints about the business.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

Episode 884 takes the audience on an extended tour of the podcast crew’s personal histories, the business of hip-hop (from feuds to documentaries), and current cultural battles over who owns what—be it platforms, narratives, or even wisdom. It’s a great encapsulation of the show’s continuing relevance: honest, irreverent, and always ready to jump into uncomfortable conversations.

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

I hate everybody.

[C]

There we go.

[D]

Yeah, you should. Yeah, you should.

[B]

You're bullies, y'.

[A]

All. You can start every episode like that. I hate everybody.

[E]

Twice a week, they up here bullying the Philly people.

[B]

They bullying the Philly people.

[E]

Now when we back to back and get the swinging in the street, the.

[A]

Philly people got a different type. Now. I can't even say that. Cause what up, Philly?

[C]

Smart, man.

[A]

I used to go to the Metro Nest store over there. So what else y' all got?

[E]

And Philadelphia pussy is very sought after.

[F]

That's unique to Philly.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Nah. A couple Philly chicks. Well, they wasn't Philly chicks, but they was working in Philly. They had me on that phone at 4 in the morning trying to get them an Uber.

[E]

Everybody like Philly girls. It's a fact.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

I just can't say nothing. He moved to pa.

[C]

It had nothing to do with Philly.

[A]

I know. I'm just gonna.

[E]

Ice was in red. You lived in Ran, right?

[C]

I want to know. Damn right.

[F]

That was in the Amish.

[E]

Lancaster. He was in Lancaster. Same Puerto Rico.

[B]

It's witness relocation. They kind of just Puerto Rico. You tell everything.

[F]

I'm. I'm a Rico. Half Puerto Rican, half Amish.

[D]

It's like. I don't think you should say that on a broadcast.

[B]

Your morning. You got a new tack.

[E]

I got a couple.

[B]

How often do you get them?

[E]

I don't know. I wanted. I had took years off, so I just wanted to get my shit together. And then, you know, I like tattoos.

[B]

I got.

[E]

Don't call me white girl. I got JBP.

[A]

Eyes lit up. He was ready to take that to the Patreon preview.

[B]

Street.

[A]

This is what I really think about Mona's new tattoos.

[E]

When I first saw Mona's tattoo, I.

[B]

Felt like, well, I saw you got juice up there. I didn't know if that was for your homegirl or that was something different.

[E]

It's for my bitch.

[D]

Or the movie.

[C]

Juice box.

[B]

Wait, you got juice box on your arm.

[E]

I got a juice box, but it's for juice. It's not about juice box. It's not about juice's box, because that's What?

[B]

It sound like you got juice box.

[E]

On your arm, but I just thought it would be cute to get a juice box for my girlfriend juice.

[A]

Hey, can the Philly people shut the fuck up? We all get into this little Venus and Serena Phillies ping pong game that the rest of the world don't give a.

[E]

We cool cap. They. They love it.

[A]

And you said not.

[D]

You said, someone's laundry's done.

[A]

Like, niggas say the girl is crazy. Like that prevents them from fucking him.

[C]

No.

[B]

Depends on what stage you are in your life.

[A]

Like, niggas say, that's not true. What's not true?

[F]

I'm not fucking with that.

[C]

If a nigga told you, yo, she crazy as hell, but she was bad, you.

[B]

You.

[C]

You leaving it alone.

[F]

No, I want you to elaborate on what. Crazy.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Cause there's levels to crazy. Like, yo, she bust my windows in my car crazy, or she got me say it. It's other shit crazy.

[B]

What's the kind of crazy you could deal with?

[F]

I don't like. Honestly speaking, I really don't like none of it.

[B]

Well, what's the kind you would deal with bad enough?

[C]

Yeah, what's the kind of, how you say, all right, now we ain't talking about dealing with it. We talking about.

[B]

I'll tell you, taking it down. Every dude deals with the crazy of who Is that why you hit, like, 17 times? You know that the girls that over, like, watch everything you do. If she bad enough, you would deal with that.

[F]

I hit it, but I'm not.

[C]

That's what we talking about. That's what we talk about, but dealing with.

[F]

I don't got to deal with that.

[A]

We're not talking about dealing with.

[C]

Yeah, we're not.

[A]

Pop, it's plenty.

[F]

And.

[C]

And that's what we talk about, but at times, then you pop the crazy chick, and she becomes extra crazy. But you knew ahead of time that this was a crazy chick. That's what we talking about. That niggas know she crazy and still go in and do it. And then now you stuck with super crazy.

[A]

All right, dog. I done told a couple of my homeboys after. After having, like, you know, they run somewhere, and then the girl is at the crib talking to me.

[F]

Talking to you.

[A]

You talking for 90 minutes.

[F]

Get out of there.

[A]

And I'm in my head like, ooh, I can't wait till my friend get back. Get out, my friend get back. Get out of here. I know my friend get back.

[C]

I pull me aside, yo, yo, get out of there.

[A]

I shorty Pulled me to the side to talk for 90 minutes. I'm telling you, this chick is a different level of crazy. Get out of here.

[C]

Get out of there. And what happen?

[A]

Look at me. Okay.

[C]

I know what you're talking about. So I remember.

[A]

Well, he love it. He absolutely love it.

[C]

Yeah. That means, like, go. Oh, wor.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

I think some men like it used to be me. Some men like it and. But I think it's an age.

[C]

It's levels, man.

[D]

It's an age thing for sure.

[B]

For sure.

[E]

Younger guys might, you know, they like it. But I think once you older, you don't already had your windows busted and had a couple disorderly, you know what I mean? Because that's what happens. Y' all go to jail thing, you know?

[C]

Well, she go cut all your electronics up in your house, you know, just stupid.

[B]

That sounded like a personal story he's told that.

[E]

I can remember when I was crazy like that and how, like, when you. Back, back, back. I don't.

[A]

Way back.

[E]

Wait, like what?

[F]

When you was getting sausage?

[E]

Exactly. That's how.

[B]

You know, that's why she not crazy. She had a crazy pill.

[E]

But no, I remember like. Like having that feeling like he enjoys this, which almost like, take the crazy out of it. Cause I'm like, what the fuck? Like, that's weird. But some men like that.

[B]

Are you drawn to dudes that are like that?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Are you drawn to dudes that got a little crazy in them?

[E]

I don't think that that's a dude that has a little crazy in them. Those. I don't know what that is. That you like that. I don't know if they get it confused with, like, attention or feel. They feel saw after or whatever, but that's weird to me. It's always been.

[C]

I don't like none of that.

[E]

Yeah. And the whole, like, destroying property thing like that, I. That shit's weird.

[A]

That's what I say all the time. If you in the crazy girls, you probably ain't got enough experience.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You haven't come across.

[F]

You ain't feel the crazy.

[A]

You ain't. You think I met your match? You think.

[C]

You think her blowing your phone up, you think that's crazy? You ain't dealt with old girl from thin line between love and hate. Crazy. Yes. You haven't gotten to that level.

[D]

You haven't had them boys show up at the crib or had for either of y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Right?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Crazy is when they don't show up. You scared to call me.

Doing a cyndi Lauper video. Having an exorcist and shit. You don't know what to do.

[B]

Priest.

[E]

Have y' all ever had that crazy where you scared of the bitch a little bit?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Really? Yes.

[E]

That's so funny.

[F]

I. I wasn't scared. I wasn't physically scared. But I've had crazy where I knew that there were no bounds for the person. It wasn't nothing that they would do. I mean, that wouldn't do.

[B]

And that.

[F]

And that right there is just some.

[A]

I've been physically scared. Like, you better not. You better not fall asleep. Don't close your eyes and don't let her drive.

[D]

I've definitely had maybe slightly irrational fears of falling asleep. For sure. For sure.

[A]

You can't go to sleep around the.

[B]

Out of you stabbing that.

[E]

You worry about when you said, don't let her drive. They used to be my favorite drone. Like, I would drive and be like, I smashed this, right? That was my thing.

[B]

In that moment. Did you mean it?

[F]

No.

[E]

I don't know if I'm at all.

[F]

You got that, Rakim.

[E]

But I will always say, like, I'm a smasher. But I would. On his side. You know what I mean? Like, it was never.

[C]

I'm gonna kill it, too.

[E]

This side. Yeah.

[D]

You think you can drive like that?

[E]

I could drive. I'm a good driver. I just had this conversation with somebody. I'm a great driver.

[F]

You seem like you might got, like.

[E]

I don't drive like I'm from Jersey. You know what I mean?

[F]

Whoa, whoa.

[C]

You're not a good driver.

[E]

Jersey people can't drive. And it's a known thing. We're not gonna waste time on it.

[D]

That being said, number two in the country, in my personal experience is the square state, Pennsylvania. Oh, y' all number two on the list.

[B]

Bad drivers.

[A]

Correct.

[E]

Wow. But Pennsylvania, wait.

[A]

We ain't about to let Buffalo and Philly talk about Jersey drivers.

[B]

Y' all are terrible.

[A]

It's not true.

[D]

Nationally regarded as terrible drivers.

[E]

Like, why would everybody say it every day?

[A]

Nationally gotta mind their business. Yeah. Nationally. Don't bring up nationally.

[C]

Don't bring up national.

[A]

Don't bring up the nations.

[C]

Only because we stolen car.

[B]

I'm about say y drive like y stole a car. That's actually how it feels when I. When I'm around Jersey people.

[F]

Yo, my, you are from New York.

[E]

We drive better than y', all, Cap. And then me and Parks Talking about.

[C]

Atlanta LA drivers, D.C. drivers and Atlanta drivers are on this list.

[F]

Atlanta drivers are there, but Atlanta might.

[C]

Got the cape when me and is the worst place.

[E]

When me and Parks talked about it, we were finishing each other's sentences about Jersey drivers, like, literally knew exactly what. Like what? I don't know. Y' all suck at all, right?

[A]

So y' all bonded one night, right?

[C]

And y' all could be wrong.

[A]

That's okay. M came.

[C]

We all right with that.

[E]

Us and everybody else.

[D]

Yeah, everybody else is wrong, right?

[E]

Just us and everybody.

[A]

I came on here and said, I'm back to the stalker now, cuz it's a movie in my head. I came on here and said, when the stalker girl was a jogger and she was jogging just by my house.

[F]

Just happened to be talking by your crib.

[A]

And she said, hey, do me a favor. Leave a bottle of water out there for me. I'm by your house. I've been there with my kid.

[C]

You have red dress.

[A]

You remember?

[C]

Scared the shit out of us.

[A]

N. Oh, please. It scared me so much, I was trembling getting her number.

[C]

You my man.

[A]

You my man. You my guy.

[B]

She scared.

[A]

Yo, she scared me so much, I almost didn't get the number. I hate these niggas, boy.

[C]

Nah, that was some bullshit that day. I don't care.

[A]

And then past crazy. Cause I ain't gonna call it crazy. But.

When you meet the girl that really only like girls, but then she likes your dick and now she's open to men. You the first guy to have opened her up to men. That girl's a nutcase. That girl is an absolute stalker. Deranged.

[E]

She's also a lesbian.

[D]

I don't think I've that many lesbians.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

About saying.

[A]

I argue that they're not lesbians.

[D]

I guess bisexual, technically.

[E]

You're the first to think that they're not lesbians.

[A]

Huh?

[E]

You being the first penis that they enjoy. You think they're not lesbian?

[A]

No. Your behavior from penis.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

Tells me that you're not a lesbian.

[E]

Okay.

Guess what? I didn't know y' all tell us lesbians, like, the harder versions. I don't know if you're allowed to say, like, stud or whatever. I like to say zyke with a Z. I think.

[D]

You think that fixes it.

[E]

I think so. My people like it, but they like dick. They be sneak dicking.

[F]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I've been hearing about that a lot, bro.

[E]

Late night, late night at the yy and they get in the Y wi separately. They get in the same car. They bros. But she got a fat ass under the methus. You know, first of all, I've always thought that it sucked. Like, imagine being a stud and you got this whole male Persona, but you got a fat old ass on you.

[F]

They try to take the titties down. They be having fat ass, but they.

[E]

Put three sports bars on. And they got one titty, but it's one. It's one titty in the middle. But when you walk past with that fat ass and you sagging on some tough. You know what I mean? It's like, bro. Yeah, it's fat as bro. You know what I mean? That has to suck. Or you real hippie. Shout out to y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

The hippie studs.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, the hippies.

[A]

The hippie studs.

[E]

But no, they sneak dick. And I'm telling you, they have a craving for it.

[A]

Okay, thanks for that information. You taught me that.

[E]

But can I also add this? I always thought it was strange men that were attracted to them because it's like they get. Their whole Persona is male. You know what I mean? So what's up with you?

[F]

I concur.

[E]

You feel me? I think. And when I say that, people are like, oh, it's still a girl. But I'm just saying her exterior gives men. So what attracted you? Like, what made you look through the ethics at the FedEx?

[A]

This pussy under. That's what they say. You got car hard on, you can put on all the do rags you want. It's pussy under there.

[E]

Have any of y' all ever like, dated a stud? Or dated, dated or had sex with one?

[B]

You use some different words around here.

[E]

None of y' all never hit a stud?

[A]

No. Ever? No.

[E]

Put it on your face.

[B]

Freeze.

[A]

Freeze. Why you making a face?

[C]

I ain't make no. I'm laughing at Mona.

[A]

Bro, you a Mark Pop one.

[D]

Do you know something?

[C]

You said something.

[B]

You popped.

[D]

You know something, Nick?

[F]

Mark popped one, too.

[B]

What?

[A]

Mark popped the stud.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Mark. Mark. And I'm 46 years old.

[C]

Why am I in this conversation?

[D]

You didn't say nothing.

[A]

Wait, boy, that's my thing. Why y' all don't cop to it?

[B]

I was about to, but then Ice made the face.

[A]

I didn't find it.

[B]

And then he just sold me the fuck out.

[C]

I'm minding my business.

[A]

Can I hear from y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

This is interesting. How'd it go?

[F]

You took the wave cap off before you popped?

[D]

Yeah, Grace.

[A]

Oh, one of them Newark studs. One of them Newark studs that play bid whistle.

[C]

I'll tell you this, I ain't playing with it.

[E]

He's about to tell the truth. If y' all shut up. He was about to give it up.

Here. I.

[A]

Where y.

[B]

Where y' all meet at Jam.

[C]

Thr Mutual friend years high school.

[B]

She spotted you.

She's crossing you the up.

[E]

Me and this up at the ymca.

Pooping.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

That is hilarious.

[B]

But really, what happened, bro?

[C]

We were really good friends and she was curious.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

Ah, that's it.

[E]

Did she love it?

[B]

So you like the entry that makes. That's a dude. That's a good way to start.

[A]

I love when I used to of.

[E]

He simplifies everything.

[B]

By the time you tell it.

[A]

So you mean to tell me he's.

[B]

An entry level dick?

[C]

Yeah, entry level dick.

[B]

You got start. She's got a start. Basic.

[A]

Now, I know it's brain.

[B]

I know it's.

[A]

It's early, so my brain ain't functioning all the way yet. So I'm. I could be wrong.

[B]

I ain't.

[A]

And I hate that I'm the guy that always highlighted. I know this n Brain. So you mean to tell me.

Out of all the niggas in Nebraska.

[B]

She.

[A]

Got curious and said, you know what? I need some.

[B]

A little freeze.

[A]

Yeah, nigga.

[B]

All right.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Big dog shit.

[E]

Damn right.

[A]

Big dog shit.

[E]

Damn right.

[A]

All right. What say you, brother?

[B]

Mark, my situation was different. What happened was when I met her, she wasn't a stud. And then I circled back like five years later, and she looked different. Like, I bumped into her, like at a barbershop.

[E]

They got a line up together.

[F]

Yo, tape me up.

[A]

Tape it at the.

[B]

No, she was. She. I was like, what happened to you?

[A]

She was like, mark, you can't do that.

[E]

What happened to you?

[B]

I didn't say it like that, but I was like, oh, you look different. Like, yes. She was like, oh, you know how many girls now. Wooty wooty, woo. We exchanged info, actually, just to get up, you know what I mean?

[C]

And you got up.

[B]

And then she sent me a text that night like, you know, I'm still in the niggas. So we got. We. I mean, that was it.

[E]

Did she come to being in boxes in the beater?

[A]

Word.

[B]

Only five times.

[A]

Freeze.

[C]

Only three times.

[E]

Why? Now, see, hey, you did your thing.

[B]

Now, after, after, after y' all were done with your three times, did she. With dudes more. Did she go back to girls?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

I think I said she.

[C]

No, she's. No, no, I take that back. Well, I don't know.

[B]

This is because y' all were questions.

[E]

She would have never.

[C]

This is 20 years ago, damn near. So she's. She's into girls.

[F]

She's.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

You ain't rep for the niggas.

[A]

Hey, listen, gotta read the Yelp review on that one.

[E]

When y' all were friends. For her to approach you as friends. I know it. You up like. You were shocked. Like, what? Like. Cause that's your bro. That was your homie.

[C]

Yeah, it was yours. It was. Hey, Joe, I'm sorry.

[A]

He was, like, looking behind him.

[C]

All right, what type of pot we having today?

[B]

I think you already know.

[A]

I need it clear.

[C]

I need it clear, though.

[A]

I need it clear. But wait, like, I'm on. But I do have a serious question for y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Ice and Mark was there every time where y' all was on top.

And she just was. Lean back on some chills. Like, while you was doing your numbers.

[D]

You think she was hitting it from behind.

[A]

I'm serious. I promise you. I want to know if you all was on top. Pause.

[F]

You be on your pac, man. She was like, yeah, get that.

[C]

Not doing this.

[B]

Eater.

[C]

I'm no longer sharing.

[A]

Oh, man, you can't be the stud eater.

[F]

She stood up on that.

[D]

Put her leg up and.

[A]

Oh, man.

Would y' all do it again? Would y' all do it again? No, Mark. Well, if you weren't.

[B]

I know what you mean.

[C]

I know what you mean. But no.

[B]

Yeah. No. Even if we were single, we would die. Yeah, I would. That was.

[F]

You wouldn't do it to that particular girl. It was one of your fire.

[A]

I'm not talking about her homegirls.

[F]

That was just.

[A]

Just a fire stud.

[E]

Cause they do be fired.

[B]

I see. If they open to it. If I was single when they was open to it, it'd be different.

[C]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

Probably.

[B]

You wouldn't, Joe.

[A]

I mean, I can't say that I would. I'm not attracted to that aesthetic.

[B]

No, but remember, I seen her before. She was that. So I had the memory of the. The priest.

[A]

She ain't that no more.

[B]

She was that when I saw that night.

[A]

That's the thing. If I gotta wait till you get naked to be attracted to you, I. I would, but I'm not.

[B]

I'm not knocking nobody else. How about you? Ish.

[F]

It's not my thing. Like, I can't.

[A]

Me and Ish fuck bad bitches our whole life. Like, is. She wants to tell anything you want to tell them? Well, you want to sip your little tea and be cute in your little quarters?

[B]

It.

[A]

Listen, me and put up. Put numbers on the board. Our entire lives, we didn't go through, like, dull spells like anybody Else, right?

[B]

Y', all.

[A]

Me and Ish. Anything we wanted to have, that's who we hit different.

[C]

So I love.

[A]

And if you got it like that.

[C]

My man I just like.

[A]

And if you got it like that.

[C]

Right, I let him cook.

[A]

Why would it be a stud? You know?

[E]

I mean, so if y' all hit baby your whole life, y' all never. Y' all never hitting an ugly ever.

[A]

I definitely hear something. Oh, okay. I definitely hit something ugly, But I would tell people about it.

[E]

Ugly.

[C]

I was about to say, please say, no, she was lying.

[A]

She was ugly with that. Hey, made up for it, right?

[B]

She was ugly with that.

[C]

He one in particular. I was like, this Joe is tripping, though.

[A]

All right, hold up now. It ain't a whole bunch of them.

[C]

I ain't saying a bunch. I'm just talking about that one now. That one.

[B]

What was. What was up with that one?

[C]

It was just. It was very different than what I was used to seeing him around.

[A]

Oh, but he be putting imaginary people in my body. You're talking about that bodyguard. I did not. No, I did not.

[B]

Bodyguard?

[F]

You female Kevin Costa.

[A]

Ice. I did not. That bodyguard be lying, bro. I promise you.

[C]

I asked me to take a friend out so he could with the chick.

[A]

And I still didn't fuck a bodyguard.

[B]

Now they have all, like, the boots and the whole black uniform.

[A]

I can assure you.

[D]

Flashlight.

[B]

Flashlight. I'm gonna shoot you some bells.

[F]

Oh, my kids, them bodyguards be having fat asses under them uniforms.

[A]

Right back to the beginning.

[F]

Them asses be fat.

[B]

So you fucking bodyguard.

[C]

I seen her knock niggas out, security guards.

[F]

I was afraid police be having fat asses under them.

[A]

Police.

[B]

She could step from a student.

[A]

No, wait, wait.

[B]

What?

[C]

They look like women with the fat ass.

[B]

A police officer with a fat ass is about all right.

[A]

No way.

[C]

There's nowhere near it, dog.

[A]

You can't even make it make sense.

They don't have to be.

[B]

You said she's a bodyguard? Nah.

[C]

We talk about two different things.

[B]

All of that is in the territory.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

No chick I'm talking about was 6 4, 2 90. That's the one you and I knock you out.

[B]

That's the one. You.

[A]

No, not at all. You climb up on my kids. Don't play with me. Don't ruin my body.

[B]

I love when they kids.

[A]

Well, I was gonna say on God, but that don't work here either.

[B]

They work for you, but if we say that.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Yo, that's crazy.

[B]

Six four.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's being generous.

[B]

Wow. Were you intimidated?

[A]

A little.

[B]

A little.

[C]

She took it.

[A]

She took it for sure.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Frisked him and them.

Yes, she did.

[A]

Oh, man.

[F]

Fris.

[A]

Them.

[E]

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[A]

Yeah, but nothing happened to me.

[E]

It's cool.

[C]

But you can admit it. It's all right.

[E]

It wasn't your.

[D]

It's okay.

[E]

It wasn't your fault.

[A]

Well, no, I was an adult. This was a child. When the babysitter took advantage of me.

[E]

Oh, my God, Joey.

[B]

And that's not okay.

[F]

That's wrong person.

[A]

First of all, none of it is okay. The bodyguard taking it ain't okay.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying I know you and the bodyguard were consensual. I confirmed that.

And I'm glad for you, man.

[C]

Yo, that is hilarious.

Yo, fuck the bodyguard, yo.

[E]

Nah. Was it his bodyguard?

[C]

No, no.

[E]

Damn, that's just weird.

[A]

The funniest, if you ask her, she ain't even gonna lie and say that that happened. She wouldn't even lie on it.

[F]

He might already ask.

[E]

One night they slammed the down and took it.

[C]

I ain't talk to her.

[E]

Y' all both better stop playing with that when she find y'.

[F]

All. Word.

[B]

She know who she is.

[E]

She know exactly what ain't that many.

[B]

Six foot, four, two, nine.

[E]

She just exactly turned the window up and turned the radio up. Is these talking about me? Must have forgot her.

[A]

The funny, the black Twitter. The we talking about. She got a long term relationship after and put that. Why you come on now.

[C]

You doing the most.

[A]

She put that through for years. You him up, boom. What you say, yo?

[F]

Huh?

[C]

He's still going.

[E]

They still together.

[B]

He can't.

[F]

No, no, no.

[C]

I'm talking about.

[B]

I'm talking about.

[A]

Yeah, they. They tumble.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

To this day.

[E]

Love.

[A]

See? All right.

[C]

Love now. Yo, you wild, yo, play something, please.

[A]

I mean, let's get some fairy tales going for the lies being told up here. It's a lot of lies being told.

[D]

I thought you were gonna play Paul Simon, everybody.

[B]

Guard came to the compound. But I ain't hit though.

[A]

You know what I mean?

Mad stories shout out to all the police women out there for sure. All the crazy women, all the stalkers, all the beautiful studs.

[B]

Indeed.

[A]

If I fuck is done, they gonna have to have some waves, you know what I mean? Have to have some waves.

[D]

Smell like Murray's.

[F]

No, that. That's weird, bro. Hey, yo, you look, look, that is funny.

[A]

Think about this.

[F]

I remember I was fucking with the chick with the real, real short haircut. That shit Was awkward. That shit is awkward, Corey. I'm lying. That shit is awkward.

[A]

Put your hand on that.

[F]

Not the Halle Berry cut. I'm talking about short. Not no Toni Braxton shit. That.

[B]

Man, you tripping.

[E]

We had this conversation yesterday, me and him.

[B]

You wasn't in the awkward.

[E]

I said the same thing.

[A]

Oh, let them hear this.

[B]

How about say.

He just want some more ammo.

[A]

Nah, I'm on your side of it.

[B]

Oh, yeah. You crazy, man. Especially in the 2000s.

[A]

Yeah, I want to.

[B]

I want to hear Neo Soultime girls had the little Johnny joint, you know what I mean? Like the shortcuts. They had the little.

[A]

What's awkward about it?

[B]

You grab them by that. Nothing. That's the.

[A]

See, that's the part they missing.

[B]

That's the part they missing. No, you just got. You might not be. It's cool.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[F]

Okay. I wish I had some. Honest is weird by the guy going, but you can't.

[A]

Why?

[F]

They got a low ass haircut. And you. You know what I mean? You get piped down.

[B]

You.

[F]

Nah.

Like, you know, getting the good head. You start being a hairdresser.

Word different, bro.

[E]

Really looking at the baldy from the back.

[F]

Shorty giving.

[A]

You know, when a chick with a low haircut give you good head. Bill, there's other things that can happen besides you being a hairdresser.

[F]

No, I'm making a joke.

[B]

You can touch their body.

[D]

There's also less interference in the short.

[F]

They be down there on me.

[B]

I can't really touch their body.

[A]

When a chick got that low head, you get to feel a scalp. That's a different type of intimacy. First of all, when you get to rub on their scalp and it's like, oh, my God, that is beautiful.

[F]

Exactly.

[A]

Shout out to all my short hair queens out there. I absolutely love y'. All.

[F]

I love cool.

[C]

I don't do the ball.

[A]

You pitched it to him wrong. Like you said Neil Soul.

[B]

I was doing that time.

[A]

Ivory Soul or some. Oh, right.

[B]

I got you there.

[A]

You go get him and get a buck. Yeah, B. White change his world, boy.

[B]

Exactly.

[F]

I'm good.

[A]

Awkward.

[F]

Demi Moore.

Had that.

[A]

Yo, when y' all the studs. When you. When you're up on the studs. If y' all went out, like, did they ever pay?

Hold the door.

[D]

Pull the chair up.

[B]

Smack.

[D]

Put your jacket on for you.

[A]

Oh, wait. Yo, girl, let me smack y' all ass. Yeah, like afterwards. No, after the act. Like.

Got it, got it, got it. All right. This is a family show.

[D]

Yeah, big time.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, let's get right into the proceedings this evening. Yeah, I mean my weekend vibe. Shout to everybody up cleaning right now. Everybody at the airport, taking a trip. Everybody on vacation.

Everybody getting ready for a birthday or Christmas and all that. We're a few weeks away.

Hey.

If I the studs. You couldn't touch the hawks.

This mad.

It's mad that I wouldn't let her do if we were.

[F]

Hey.

[A]

And she gotta know how to make grits. Get your boy ass in there and get the chefing.

You'd be shocked how many chicks don't know how to make grits until you ask them. There's a lot of chicks that don't know how to make grits.

So glad y' all could be here with us.

[B]

Shout out to the patronis.

[A]

Shout out to everybody over there on YouTube. Wherever you listening from here go.

All right, man, we gonna start this bad boy, but I need to hear.

[E]

This ver too far away.

If I can't see your face, I will remember.

[A]

Oh, and New Year's Eve. Shout out to anybody making New Year's Eve plans. Every. Everything is creeping up.

[C]

It's around the corner.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[D]

And I got no plans.

[A]

I think it's gonna be quiet for me this New Year's Eve too.

[D]

We might have a little party somewhere or something.

[A]

I'm not mad at that loki. But I'm not mad at low key New Year's Eve this year. I'm.

[E]

I should all my life.

[A]

I mean keep this applause going for the best show on turf.

[E]

Who was that?

[A]

All right. 884.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Welcome to episode 884 of the JBP brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Picks Prize pitch gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful super happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You already know the vibes, huh? In Tacoma, Washington. They gonna know the vibe this weekend. Big show this weekend out there. Make some noise. Don't call white girl big Damona. In the building.

Next to her we have our good brother.

[E]

Our good.

[A]

I can't talk today. Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building Next to him we have king wah wah. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. That's that ish in the courtesy.

[C]

Already.

[B]

Is this any of this out yet in the streets? Yo, baby, this week he just testing. Just got it. Got it.

[C]

We got the quarter zip on them already killing them this week.

[A]

Got the Y ends ready that turn around fast. Not even think about that Faster than Fashion Nova. Boy, if he think it, that is out being mailed to you in 24 hours or less. Stupid.

Hey, hey. I mean, though mad late. I know, I know.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait a minute.

All right, come on. That's too much fun. Next in, we got the freeziest of them all.

[D]

Mr.

[A]

Taking further ice is in the building next to him. Big Parks, Elmyra's Finest is in the building. We got Poe in the building. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. How's everybody doing? What's poppin, though? What's poppin, though?

[C]

What's up, man? Feel great, man.

[D]

Busy week, but feel great.

[B]

Busy week.

[A]

Good, good. Glad everybody is feeling great.

[B]

Can I say fuck y' all just real fast because.

[D]

Who's y'?

[E]

All?

[B]

Everybody. All of us, except. Oh, yeah, Mona, too. Last week I passed out on set.

[E]

Yeah?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nobody checked them a nigga.

[C]

I woke you up.

[A]

You've been doing it for a year.

[B]

No, no, I didn't fall asleep. I actually passed out.

[F]

You didn't pass out.

[B]

What did I do?

[F]

You fell and I thought you hit your head on the thing. So you were sitting there like this?

[B]

Yeah, I was caught being knocked out.

[F]

Looking like CD Lamb. And I was like, yo, me and Mona looked at each other like, yo, is this going? I was unsure if you.

[D]

If it was for the tv.

[B]

Yeah, no, I was out.

[D]

Yeah, I meant to hit you, but.

[F]

And then when you woke up, you're.

[C]

Like, no, no, no, I'm good.

[B]

I'm good.

[F]

I'm good.

[B]

I finished working because we professionals, but little you.

[A]

How'd you pass out?

[B]

I really don't know. I don't know. I was a little sick last week.

[D]

You having too good of a time?

[A]

Are you building a case? What the fuck is this?

Did someone here take advantage?

[F]

Oh, yo, what's wrong with you dogs?

[B]

Just a little. Are you all right? Mona asked me today, like, hey, you all right? You was knocked out last week. It's been seven days.

[C]

Well, we know you was all right. We saw you posting.

[D]

Well, are you all right?

[B]

I think so. I haven't passed out since.

[A]

Good. There you go. Good.

[E]

Is that your first time passing out?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

Oh, wow. Yeah, it was weird.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, we're glad. You all right.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Some doctor he is, huh?

Anywhere y' all want to go, I'm down to go. Pause. We start.

[C]

We got. We got. We got big news in the entertainment.

[A]

This is Absolutely crazy.

[C]

Yeah, this is absolutely crazy.

[A]

This news is absolutely nuts.

[C]

It was announced that Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers.

[A]

Acquired. Did it acquire?

[C]

Yeah, not even acquired.

[F]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

87 or $82 billion. Insanity.

[B]

It's crazy to me to think about how this could even happen. I remember when Netflix was just, you know, they mailed you a cd, you.

[A]

Know what I'm saying?

[B]

And then they were fighting Blockbuster. Now they are the behemoth on the landscape. That's crazy to me. To see just how far they've come.

[F]

Speaks to some of these CEOs and they vision dead ass. Like, nobody could have ever thought that this was gonna turn into that.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, that's crazy. I looked at this as a pivot move or a response move because I remember. We all remember a couple years ago, Netflix had that movie Bright with Will Smith, but it failed. But at the time, it was like, if this works, because you got a lister Will Smith, and this movie was straight to Netflix. If this works, this could literally change the game. And you saw a lot of. I mean, the movie wasn't the greatest, but it did look like it was a lot of oomph put on it. So that this did not work. So with that not working. All right, our next option is now we gonna come over here and we're gonna buy up a studio.

[B]

Yeah. We gonna get in this way and not a studio.

[C]

Yeah, no, the studio. Them.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So not. Cause now they got. I mean, that's hbo. Hbo Max. Like that.

[F]

So now you got the whole Oz Entourage, Sex in the City, the Wire, you got all of those catalogs for. To just stream that. Never heard about it. They could go. I mean, that. Heard about it. Never saw it.

[A]

Right.

[F]

It's right there.

[D]

And way more movies.

[F]

Way more.

[C]

Not just the game is subscriber base. So now you phase out the HBO Max app.

[D]

You could about to be two apps.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We're gonna get there too. Because that's. That's. That's part of the problem for me. But. And I know a lot of stuff is going to get developed in Q3. So even though they made the acquisition, it was happening. You'll see it in like in the third quarter, 2026, you'll see a lot of this stuff. One of the things they said was they're going to keep Warner Brothers the. The brand because it's. And I think that's smart.

[A]

Smart.

[B]

You know, some people, the ego, you just want to take over everything and have your name on everything. But Warner Brothers Is a brand name. It's an American tradition. So you still gonna see Warner Brothers in the movie theater? I think that's brilliant.

[C]

Genius.

[B]

You know what I mean? Take the hbo. You hold on to those. Those titles for sure.

[C]

But just what happens is you'll see Warner Brothers and then underneath it'll say a Netflix company.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's okay. As long as you still see it.

[B]

Yeah, but I need to see that one.

[C]

I was watching certain shows and I'm used to seeing like, you know, whatever the logo is, and then underneath it, it'll say such and such. Now it's changing Sundance. These like. Cause they're buying up these networks.

[B]

They buying these studios.

[C]

I ain't mad, bro.

[B]

You think this is gonna change, like the kind of programming they do?

[C]

Original programming?

[B]

Yeah, like. Well, you see like prequels for things and you know, like Netflix is producing a lot of content right now in the same way. Like after hbo, we had HBO Max. And you start to see different kinds of content coming to HBO label. I'm just wondering, will it shape the kind of shows we gonna see?

[F]

I think you acquire HBO for their back catalog. Cause the HBO not necessarily doing what Netflix does. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm gonna just go get all the HBO shit now. Put that up under my umbrella. But we can still keep doing what we've already been the greatest and master at. You know what I'm saying? I think that's dope.

[A]

I think it would. They would have to like, back catalog is awesome. But Netflix has done built their own studio. They're getting into original shit. I could see a world where they take a story that they didn't have access to and now prequel it like you said, or make it go further like you said.

[B]

That's what I'm expecting. Expected.

[A]

That could be it at that number. I'm thinking more than back. They have to have a plan. But even that, right. Their plan has been right in front of us. Right. They're doing this, which is incredible. This is monumental. What they announced with their. That they're doing with those video podcasts.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Their football games.

[C]

Netflix went live. Like just that. Netflix going live. And they tested it out with, you know, a little comedy special here, boxing match here.

[A]

But oh yeah, they got Netflix sports like.

[C]

Like they are. This is a full on takeover for sure. We covering every. We got sports. We got this. I mean, what's next?

[F]

News?

[A]

Big dogs on the block now.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, no, no, this is our block now.

[A]

Yeah. And it's A long block.

[C]

We not even. We not even battling you on this block. We bought the block. We bought the battlefield.

[F]

Can't be mad.

[B]

It's exciting.

[A]

I love you. I do like the HBO app. I do. I hope they leave it there.

[C]

Consolidated.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Consolidated app. It's just to me, because when I said, I'm thinking about what. What Hulu did, I mean, what Disney did with the Hulu and all that, they integrated everything into the Disney app. I could see HBO doing the same thing.

[B]

I think that's.

[C]

I mean, excuse me. Netflix doing the same thing.

[A]

And if they do that, what old show becomes number one right away? The Wire.

[D]

One of Game of Thrones.

[A]

I can't hear any of you.

[D]

Game of Thrones, Sopranos, Wire.

[B]

Yeah, probably in that order, bro.

[F]

You got 10. Like, HBO had a run of, like, a good 12 shows. That just was true. Blood.

Soprano, Sex in the City, Entourage, they just had the Wire. They just went crazy for a good 15 years, two decades. So you got now all of that stuff to people that's 28, 29 years old that wasn't around. You like, yo, I'm watching Oz.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This deal was the first time I thought about how much money Netflix has.

[C]

80 billion.

[A]

Because when I went to bed, all of the reports said Netflix is thinking about acquiring. And when I woke up, it said, netflix has acquired.

[C]

Yeah, that's literally.

[A]

Netflix has it now, you guys. That's what it said now.

[B]

Not everybody's happy. I know you said you can't get mad at that, but a lot of people are getting mad at that.

[A]

Who's mad at that?

[B]

Some politicians. Elizabeth Warren, for example.

[A]

Mark, don't politician me to death. Does anybody else? Man?

[B]

Some content creators.

[A]

Well, what's the argument?

[B]

It's an antitrust argument. Right? That and it'll be ultimately up to the feds to find out whether it's true or not. But the idea that they have that market dominance, right, that they basically have a monopoly over the entire streaming industry, which is not what you're not supposed to have, reduced content, reducing competition, and then also having too much control. So the idea is that they can dictate terms to directors in Hollywood or content creators now because they got. You got no place else to go. And so it's hard to get a fair deal. That's the argument that content creators are worried about. And from the political side, which I do think matters, the question is, does this stop? Are they too powerful? Are they too big? That's the thing that people are worried about now. Netflix has Said in their defense, this is gonna create more opportunities for creatives. This is gonna create more opportunities and more avenues through the various things they're acquiring. It's up to the world to decide. But people are not happy about it. Some people are not happy about it.

[C]

I mean, there was a. I'm reading here from Variety. It says a group of major industry players has sent an urgent open letter to Congress warning of an economic and institutional meltdown in Hollywood if Netflix succeeds in acquiring Warner Brothers Discovery.

[A]

And that's what I heard. Heard when you were talking about the content creators and politicians. Hollywood.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[A]

Old guard.

[C]

Oh, yeah. But what does this mean for the movie theaters? Like. Like this. This could be up. This could be way more than just streaming. Like now, if we got Warner Brothers act their studios, we have everything. We can literally create new films and bring them straight to Netflix. We don't have to put them in.

[F]

Theaters, but yo, have we. Aren't we already there? No, I mean, the transition is slow, but the writing's on the wall, bro. A movie comes out and in a month, that shit is on pay per view and being able to be streamed. I don't.

[C]

That's a month. If it's doing bad in theaters, the average. It used to be.

[F]

Not true.

[C]

It used to be six months. The average right now is the three months. If it's doing okay, if it's doing bad in theaters, if they had a horrible first week, if, if the, you know, if they're taking an L on it, they'll pull it from theaters and then they'll shoot it straight to streaming. But on average, it's about three months now.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And that's. I mean, that's still short.

[E]

I don't like it.

[B]

When we were growing up, it was a while some shit of came out. January, it might hit VHS or dvd like by the summer, maybe late spring.

[D]

That's different, though. You had to actually physically make all this shit and distribute it.

[F]

Right, bro, Sinners did well.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Sinners came out April 18th. It was able to be streamed in July, first week of July. That's fast.

And Centers was a hit.

[E]

Yeah. I don't like it. It makes. To me, it makes. It takes the thing out of the movies. Like you don't have that thing of Willy wanting to go see it in the theater. And I always enjoy going to the movie theater. If you didn't, the movie theater wasn't your thing. You know what I mean? If you were going to movie theater since a Kid, your first date at the movie theater, you got a hand job. Movie theater, it's a thing for you.

[D]

Unfortunately, movie theaters sticking around and everyone thinks it's the end of the world. I don't think. I think my movie theater that I go to, which is not a Ipick or one of the fancy ones, they just renovated the whole. So clearly there's still some money coming.

[B]

It.

[E]

It has to be.

[C]

But I think, I think I look at what you're saying about movie theater. We live in right now in the. A lot of people are in the. I want it right this second. So the same way malls took a hit because now you could go on Amazon and order everything. And it comes next day or same day. Want to be able to hear this is available. And I could just go home and push a button and watch that Convenience. But I'm just saying the level of convenience and people wanting everything immediately.

[E]

Right.

[C]

There's a lot of people that will. But, you know, it's certain movies where it's like, I don't want to go to the movies to see it. And if I knew it dropped today and I could go home and just hit a button and watch it, I, I personally, I would take that.

[B]

And to be clear, that's not Netflix's fault. That's just the way to take his movie.

[E]

All of that progression, all of that. The world's changing because I'm pro world changing. But I just feel like the direction we go to is just less human contact. And I just. I don't think it's a good thing.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[E]

And we do not see you in your house on a shitter watching a movie versus you go have a little conversation with the popcorn girl. You say hi to the movie guys. Like, we just. We're never going to see each other.

[C]

And the other side of that popcorn.

[A]

Girl was a.

[E]

Butter.

[A]

Don't ask for extra butter.

[E]

Now, my popcorn girl was the best.

[A]

Mona.

[C]

The other side to that. How much it costs to go to movies.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

A million dollars.

[A]

Today you can spend 100 bucks if you go with somebody.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Whereas I could pay y' all this. What is it? I think Netflix right now, if you got the. The top package, it's 24.99amonth or something.

[A]

Don't say that again.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That was crazy.

[C]

Top package.

[A]

If you had their best decision.

[E]

I get it.

[C]

But for a lot of people, that makes more sense.

[F]

Yeah. Financially, I can go home and watch the movie with my family for. Even if they selling the Stream independently for $20 I could go home with my family of five for $20.

[B]

Plus y' all be breaking the Netflix up to like five other people.

[C]

Words can't do that no more.

[E]

They shut that shit down.

[C]

That shit is a dull up.

[E]

Yeah. And then I love that they shut it down over for that. Like the message comes on the screen like, you know, it's five of y' all using this.

[C]

Nah, that pop up. Yo, this is not the house.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Where this account is registered. Either put a code in or sign up for your own.

[B]

You make so much money.

[F]

Y' all know what y'.

[E]

All.

[F]

I don't know what y' all talking about.

[E]

That is a bonafide fact that Netflix shut that down. You cannot share your passport and everybody watch it. You would have to get on a schedule and everybody took pick times to watch it. But when you and you clicking at the same time, they know and they shut it down.

[C]

And now what they do? They just give you two weeks. So they send you a code. You got it for two weeks and two weeks from now, we gonna lock this shit out again.

[B]

We make too much money to be doing this.

[C]

I signed up.

[F]

I was watching the puff doc. They sent the shit on the top of the screen.

[C]

My people sent their peoples the email.

[B]

Dude, wait, you don't got your own Netflix? You use somebody's.

[F]

I mean, my girl uses.

[B]

I thought you were the owner and you distributed it to your man. Hands in them.

[E]

No, no, he's the password bar.

[A]

You don't have Netflix?

[F]

No.

[B]

I'm really surprised.

[F]

My girl deals with.

[C]

I don't know why y' all surprised.

[D]

It's.

[C]

Don't do like.

[F]

That's not my. Yeah, that's. I don't care about that.

[E]

What do you do for fun? Ish.

[F]

What you mean?

[C]

Talk on the phone.

[A]

Mad. So much fun. Monopoly they have, yo.

[F]

No, I don't care about. I don't care about, like techy stuff and all that. Like the apps and all that. If I got a question, I'll call.

[E]

Cuz I know you don't do social media like that.

[F]

It's not really. My bad.

[A]

Yeah, so you don't do social media like that. You don't have Netflix. Oh, you have it, but you're not really into the TV shows.

[C]

He got a phone.

[E]

Do you read the paper?

[C]

I read books.

[A]

I don't read the paper.

[C]

Talk to book reader.

[A]

Mona's having a hard time figuring out what you really enjoy.

[C]

What could it be?

[A]

Damn, man.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

It's a missing sing element. I can't we can't quite put our finger on.

[E]

I don't get the joke.

[A]

He can aona.

[E]

Somebody want to explain it?

[A]

Hey, Mona, I got your girl. Hey, look at me. Look at me. The.

[E]

I was thinking that. I was thinking that.

[A]

No, hey, Damona. It's the.

[E]

He like talking on the phone.

[A]

It's the idiot. It's a ish is a born potter.

[E]

You said that last week. He is born for podcasting and.

[A]

He born for podcast.

Yo. What is wrong with this guy, yo? Oh, man. Y' all should stop sharing passwords, though. And I'm not mad at Netflix cracking down if you trying to buy some that cost 84 billion. I'm coming from every one of y'.

[B]

All.

[F]

13.99. 13.99. I need all of my subscribers.

[C]

Oh, just wait. They going to get it back.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I already thought about that. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, it made sense.

[B]

Yeah, that going up.

[A]

You said you watched the Puff Dot, right?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Did everyone here watch the Puff doc?

[C]

All four episodes.

[A]

All right, you five, take it away.

[D]

I didn't really get that much more information from this. I think it was really well done. I didn't get a lot more information than we've gotten in the doc that we got a couple years ago and through all the press coverage of the last year.

[E]

Personally, it's just better done, like. Like you said.

[C]

Yeah, this was really well done. And they painted the picture they were trying to paint.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

For me.

[E]

Oh, for sure they were trying to paint or the picture that it is? Cause you say trying to paint, it's like they got a narrative, or is that just what it is?

[C]

Well, they.

[B]

I think both.

[C]

Whatever their intention was with this doc, they nailed it.

[A]

They did it.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

I think when you tell a story about anybody, you could tell multiple stories. There's another story about Puff you could tell that would leave you feeling different about him. That would also be true. True.

[E]

Okay, I get it.

[B]

But this one felt true, you know? And this one needed to be told, given everything that's going on. I'm not defending it. I'm just saying, like, I do think there's multiple stories, and they had a particular story they wanted to tell, which I thought was good. And for me, I agree with y'. All. Like, it wasn't so much that it was new information. And I think you said this the other day, Joe.

[F]

It wasn't.

[B]

It was new information. But the storytelling was so good. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And a lot of these Docs, especially ones that come out fast. This is not good storytelling. Yeah, I was.

[E]

I don't.

[A]

And again, remember y'. All. My bad man on it. Y' all speaking for y' all demo. Like, my parents called me fair. Yeah. And was like, yo, I had no idea about a lot of the stuff that they mentioned in this.

[C]

It was that. That was new to me. But I looked at this. Excuse me. This was higher than Stranger Things.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, no.

[F]

They made some.

[A]

Well, because the stranger things is 39.

[C]

I know that that's beside the point.

[A]

That is how y' all still getting this. Later, we'll talk about the Stranger Things.

[C]

But my point, though, with that just recently.

[A]

And they grew up weird now.

[C]

They did.

[A]

Yo. They grew up weird, and nobody wanted.

[C]

To just let that go.

[A]

So they trying to put these niggas on a promo run. They look like Stranger Things. You can't really go ahead, man.

[D]

This season was pretty good, though, by the way.

[A]

But.

[C]

Yeah, but the fact is, you know, a lot of people were waiting for Stranger Things, and this was higher than that. So this tells me it's gonna be a lot of eyes getting a lot of new information. Some of us. Yeah, we might know certain things. I gained new information. Like. And they painted this shit as. That was his mo.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Yo, Right.

[C]

Oh, okay. That's your girl.

[F]

I want her.

[E]

Whoa.

[C]

And I'm gonna.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

I'm taking, like, that Eric Sermon stuff, bro. I never knew.

[B]

That's the story.

[E]

I didn't know.

[B]

I didn't know. When you said my man was, like, on the window, I was like, oh, this crazy.

[E]

Yeah, he a little threat.

[A]

I didn't know that one.

[E]

I didn't know that he got bad. Like, he. Because the. The neighbor, the one that. Cause they live in a duplex and she's renting out. They rent out the downstairs to the. He alluded to that. He went through, like, rough beating.

[F]

He was getting his ass whooped, right?

[E]

But he, like. He was like. It was like, oh. Like, I don't want to remember it. Like, it was so traumatic or whatever.

[B]

I love that part.

[E]

Him and his mom was so close, and his mom was, like, so, like, in love with him. Like, whenever you would see him, I just didn't. I didn't know that. And I like the fact that they really went into. To me, I took it like Janice was still street connected after the dad died. You know what I mean?

[B]

Before, it's almost, like, real smooth, right?

[E]

Cause before, it's like, okay, they from Harlem. He this big drug Dealer, he gets murdered. They in Mount Vernon, they excluded from him. He going to private school. But no, she's driving in the Harlem and she, her. And she could leave her car. She really was outside for real.

[B]

So that's the brilliance of it to me. When you tell a story like that where you lead the audience understanding it without having to be heavy handed with it. Like some of these other docs. Like my man was just like, yeah, she just leave the car there, leave it running. Nobody messing with it. Like just saying it like that. We got it without having to. Yeah, like to me that's what made the story telling.

[D]

So it must have been pretty wild for Puff to have found out. Out his mom was working in the after hour. Spot on.

[E]

I didn't think that was real. I thought that he just reacted that way.

[F]

You ain't got to tell the world.

[E]

Yeah, I think he knew his mind was going on. That's just some cutie for tv. That's how I took it part. So that was some cutie TV because like they in tune and they tight, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Now one part that was a little confusing, but it might have been because, you know, we in this, we in the industry. So you know, you say what you supposed do to. Supposed to say or what the publishers tell you to say. But at one point he's doing some kind of interview that I've never seen before. And it's like from the late 90s or early 2000s. And he says something about.

That he, he. That his mom was. That's. It's the same, it's the same scene from when he was talking about that he had to fight, like he had to whoop ass or he would get in trouble. That interview, I had never seen that before, ever. And I was like a puffy fan. Like I've seen every little. When they show clips of his interviews and I've already seen. You know what I mean? I had never seen it before. I want them to drop that because the way he was talking all candidly, it seemed like he was being real honest in that interview. You know what I'm talking about?

[B]

Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

[E]

And then at the bottom it says something. It was a title, something almost like that was a documentary that never came out.

[B]

Yeah, that part, I don't know the source of it, but I agree. All the childhood stuff, having people tell stories from his childhood, it gave you a sense of his mindset. They were building a case about his Mindset for sure, that I thought was helpful. I.

[F]

When Joe came in and talked about it, I thought it was gonna be worse than what it was for me to Parks Point. I had heard 97% of that shit already. A couple things were new. Like, I never heard the nigga say, yo, he really gave us a million. He hired us for a million dollars. I never heard that before.

[B]

Right.

[F]

That was new for me. But I think the part about him getting his ass whooped by his mom, and I think the whole episode four, I think they shot him some bail.

[C]

They were pretty. They tried to be fair.

[F]

I think episode four really shot him a whole bunch of bail.

[A]

Like, where was the bail?

[F]

The jurors. They didn't have to do that in that doc.

[D]

Yeah, true.

[F]

They didn't have to talk to the jurors. Cause the jurors were like, nah, we thought she was lying. And we.

[C]

It was just two people in law.

[F]

Yeah. They didn't have to display that in the dock. I think the dude, Rob.

Nobody took him seriously.

[B]

No.

[A]

Which is a shame.

[F]

I think that. I think that.

[A]

I'm not saying that as somebody that didn't take it seriously.

[B]

I have a question.

[C]

We reported on that. We was.

[A]

I didn't take him serious at all.

[C]

And then hearing that, I was like.

[A]

Yeah, change his name.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Sorry.

[E]

It doesn't help when he came, when he went. I always thought that Rod was the one that got it jumping because Rob wanted his money or whatever. He said, you know, give me my money or else. And then he went and told. Is that really true? That R is the one that got the jump.

[B]

Rod happened in January. Cassie happened like, three months earlier.

[E]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[C]

And then everybody looked at Rod like, oh, you saw what happened.

[B]

But there was, like, 100 more.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I definitely think they was, though. Puffy and Ride, for sure. I think he hit that.

[B]

I, I. I don't know. I can't speak personal opinion.

[F]

What I took from it is that Puffy is a shitty businessman on the side of paying people.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

And I think a bunch of these people have been working with him for a long time.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

No.

[F]

And I just think a lot of them. I think a lot of them is mad. I think bitter. You can hear the anger in some of their voices as they talk about what he did to them in business. You know what I'm saying? And so I think that it was almost like, all right, this is my time to get back.

[A]

Yeah. The Rod story did come off like a love story.

[E]

It did. They were I'm not taking nothing away from him. His. His claims I wish him the best, but it just gave. They go together a little bit.

[C]

The that really got me was when they were talking about Big funeral. I never heard that before.

[D]

Yeah, some people have come out to. And I'll say some of that was somebody.

[C]

It wasn't. It wasn't true. But I mean like just. Just seeing it in that moment. But if that's seeing the way he was presenting himself and then hearing the other things by it was like.

[B]

Who.

[C]

Who really are you?

[B]

What part of that disturbed you the most? The money part of it.

[C]

The whole like just seeing Big play.

[D]

For his own funeral.

[B]

I think that's what I'm saying. This isn't the money for that part.

[F]

That would be up.

[C]

Yes, that will be very fucked up.

[F]

Yes, yes. If I. Yeah, I went on record saying that I'm gonna pay for this.

[C]

I'm gonna have that.

[F]

And then when I see the expenses start piling up. Cause I'm trying to do this shit big, no pun intended. And now it's too much. And I'm like, I ain't paying for that.

[B]

You're not saying it's fucked up to not pay for it. You say it's fucked up to say you're going to do it and not do it.

[F]

No, it's up to say we going to do this bigger than anybody's ever seen. I want the biggest stroll big through Manhattan, Brooklyn, whatever. And then when you start seeing the expenses pile up, you say, yo, I want nothing do it. That he got to pay for it.

[B]

But I'm saying if that hadn't. I'm just curious. I'm just a curiosity I had when I was watching it. If he hadn't said all that and they just did a normal funeral and he had and he paid for that. A big estate instead of his own pocket. Would that be up for me? Yes.

[E]

Especially when I feel like. Like Puffy. But one thing bad businessman or not, the got a vision. He knew what he was about to do after that died. As far as all the song missing you the Big. He knew he was going to go hard on the death part. That was. That was a known. He knew he and I feel like Puffy wanted that rap thing. And I think with Biggie going he knew he could rap a little more like, you know what I mean? I could be the rapper. So it's like. Yeah. So if you know that the least you could do is pay for the funeral and look out for the kids like what the fuck? Is this your man or not? Is that your friend or not?

[F]

Like, did some. Is it confirmed that that wasn't true?

[D]

Hard to say at this point. It sounds like if it's not true.

[F]

I think that's easy to figure it out.

[C]

He said he was speaking on behalf of Violeta Wallace.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And everything. And said that is 100% not true.

[E]

That Biggie paid for his own funeral.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

That. That did not happen.

[F]

And bro, now a lot of people.

[C]

You could go further down that rabbit hole if you want and say yes. Is it possible somebody said, yo, my man, I need you to say this and clear this up.

[E]

We don't know because is she gone?

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. And there's been other allegations of stories changing from that side after some other agreements were made.

[A]

I don't know what's true, if it's true or not. If. If any two things in this four.

[B]

Part thing is true. He's a monster.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

I think Puff is a monster regardless, by the way.

Nothing comes across trust as he's a good dude.

[C]

Like some of that footage there with him and his son saying, yo, we need to call such and such and have her do this. Like it's. Some of that was hard to watch, bro.

[A]

The Oreo Day was riveting.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oreo Day. Am I saying her name right?

[D]

Yeah, I believe so.

[A]

Day. Episode 4. Having to Listen to somebody tell her for certain what was happening with her because she was passed out and blacked out and don't remember any of it.

[D]

As someone who also who doesn't drink, she said, yeah, that's.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[D]

That's crazy.

[E]

You know what was shocking to me because growing up as a puppy fan and you know, being a person, you know, separating the artist from the person, I just wanted to assume that that happened to him from the money and it happens from Hollywood. Nah, he was just like, you know what I mean? From the gate.

[B]

I think it's the combo.

[E]

It got worse.

[B]

That's why I thought it made the storyteller so good. It's like, okay, he's born into this really unusually unusual situation. In some ways, privilege in some ways really fucked up a lot of trauma. And then you add on to that this whole world that almost no one in the history of the world has ever experienced. That's a hell of a combo. Because even the guy said there was that moment where he felt the switch go off of who Puffy became. And he was like, oh, that was the last time I saw the Puffy. I Grew up with. Suddenly he looked so. I think it's both. I think it's like trauma mixed with power that just turns you into somebody else.

[F]

They did a really good job because even when they started showing, like, video music box, they showed the nerdy kid dancing on the steps that was just thirsty as hell, trying to get into the industry by any means. And then they showed this transition of him now being a party promoter, being the hottest party promoter, and then transitioning to Andre Harrell's assistant. And then, like, I think they just did a really good job of telling the story of who he was and who he became, for sure. But, nigga, we was outside. Like, bro, it's hard to find somebody that was as popular as Puff in the late 90s, early 2000s, bro. Like, we talking about pre.

Social media.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So you still could maintain a level of mystery and mystique. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dawg, them was just something that we've.

I think Russell Simmons kind of passed the torch to Puff. Right. I' ma jump over Andre Harrell. Notice she's back in 10. No disrespect intended, but I just think that Puffy took black music somewhere that we haven't seen it go. Especially as far as the money goes.

[E]

My sampling is stealing.

[B]

Well, that was the other thing. I mean, they said it explicitly at times, he's not that talented.

[E]

He's not. And that's.

[B]

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that's what they say. I actually think he is talented. I think the underestimated House is talented.

[E]

But back then, they would say that. Back then, a lot of people didn't like the fact that that's all he did was sample shit. People. He was, you know, saying that about him. And back then. Nah. And back then, people didn't, like. Like, when he was running around doing the Biggie shit. People said that shit back then. I was a puppy fan. I remember people would say, like, he was exploiting him and it was questioning what he did for the family.

[B]

But I think it's. I always am skeptical of those narratives of, like, almost like, anybody could have done this.

[F]

They couldn't.

[B]

And it's like, they could not. It's a unique person, a unique talent to do what he did, bro.

[F]

Puff's ear for music alone is unique.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Finding talented people is a talent.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. Is a talent. Yeah.

[F]

And developing them.

[E]

But having producers in the room. Room. Other producers in the room, every single time you produce and Then it's you already. We already know that he would take things from you. So it's like to assume that maybe the good ideas came from the he sat with and he just put his name on it.

[C]

If I'm the conductor and y' all are the orchestra, I'm still. I might not. I might. I ain't got to be able to play a single instrument, but I'm the one that's arranging and doing all this, that's making it all come together, right?

[E]

And I get that.

[C]

That is a talent. Everybody can't do that, right?

[E]

I get that.

[B]

That.

[E]

But that guy being also the guy that comes in your office with a bat and say, sign off your son over your stock. Like, to me, it's just like, how the. Do we know what he added into it? Who the he found?

[B]

But I mean, it's a good point.

[F]

Let me ask you this.

[E]

And I'm a. A Puffy Die Hard.

[F]

Back in the day, the hitman was the hitman.

Did any of them.

[A]

Kind of has a different.

Ring to it.

[C]

Damn, she.

[E]

Where the fuck is Stevie?

[F]

My point is this. All of those niggas was talented. Where did they go on to?

Where did they go on? Like, when you take me out the studio now, if I'm still the genius nigga. Like, I think Kanye west is a genius. I think Kanye west could create music with some fucking bongos and some coca. Like, I just think he a genius. And so I think that when you take him away from whomever that might have been steering the ship, I think his genius is gonna still just be there.

[B]

I mean, Stevie J has some hits.

[A]

Yes, he did.

[B]

Outside of the Hitman, all the Hitman, all of them. That's what I'm saying.

[F]

So I think Chucky, Booker, all them was dope.

[E]

They all had the talent, very talented.

[B]

But Puff did have a unique thing, I think. I think that's the point. I think in the dachs in Time, they underplayed how that skill set because he was like, oh, he couldn't rap or he couldn't. No, he can't. But, like, there's things he can do that nobody else can.

[A]

Doc Was the first time I heard somebody say, yo, Puff ain't do drugs. Puff was never into drugs as he cut.

[C]

Yeah, that even got him hooked on the painkillers.

[F]

And that was one after he.

[C]

What the. With his wrist, it was like they couldn't tell if it was an attempt or whatever. But the doctor, he got hooked on painkillers after that.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

And then that's where it just.

[E]

Damn.

[F]

I don't know.

[E]

I mean, don't worry. If I write rhymes, I write checks.

[A]

So your final thoughts on. On this?

[B]

I give it an A. Yeah, it was a great.

[C]

A great doc, man.

[E]

I want to watch it again. That's.

[B]

I'm watch it again. I have to watch it.

[E]

I have to watch it again.

[B]

I watch it by my wife so I can watch it before this. So I'm going watch it again. But I was like. And I was dreading having to watch it again, the idea of it. Until I started watching it. Then I was like, oh, I need to see this again. To actually catch some of the other little. All the stuff afterward. 50 Cent even.

[A]

Hold up. I'm sorry, Mark. Even. Y' all talking about when they jumped homeboy at the MGM in Vegas. I've heard that story. Story 90 million times. I ain't heard it like this.

[E]

Me too. Me too.

[A]

I heard it like this.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Never heard it like this.

[E]

Yeah. I take back about it being the same thing. It was a lot of new in there for me, but I didn't necessarily.

[A]

Keep doing everything specifically walked you through. This is the man that did this. This is the man's relationship with this person who was Puff's dad's friend. They did it. I know you didn't hear that down.

[B]

To the wiring of the money.

[A]

No, no, I never heard that.

[B]

I mean, so I've seen.

[C]

I've heard all that.

[B]

I've seen all the PAC stuff because we were doing some research on it. So I've seen everything that's been done, but I've never seen it. Every doc had a little thing that was interesting, but what I think this one did was they put all the pieces together in one place, concise, in a very clean narrative so you could connect the dots in a way that you couldn't before. That's what I thought made it good. I've never seen the dots connected in this way because the whole was greater than the sum of his parts. Even though we knew all those things. When you tell a story like that, it's making a case that wasn't made before.

[F]

You're making a timeline for the. Like. I didn't. I never heard this with him before on the mixtape, saying, yo, I put a million dollars on your head. Oh, yeah, that was new to me. I had never heard that piece. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

The dude.

[F]

The. The Crip Dude D D1 or something.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[F]

I had never heard that. I heard all the keefe D. I heard all the Orlando. I heard all of that before.

[A]

Well, then you agree what I'm saying, Because he played a role in the. In the MGM show that I'm talking about.

[F]

Not the D one is Shay.

[E]

He knew 97% of that stuff.

[F]

Yeah, the D one, that. That story when he was like, yo, I told them when I walked up on Big and they was in la, like, yo, fam, what the y' all doing here out here? Don't play like that. Even if y' all with me under.

[C]

My protection, y' all still.

[F]

Y' all still bugging the out. Like, I had never heard him. And he, to me, was the most credible nigga up there. That D1 dude seemed like he was the most incredible.

[A]

I'm thinking about somebody else. I'm thinking about somebody's dead.

[F]

No, no, no.

[C]

That dude.

[F]

That dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I kind of agree with, you know, in terms of the validity.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Like, he. He was the one. Because he didn't really have no personal vendetta against Puff.

[D]

Yeah. Everyone else had a little bit.

[F]

Everybody else was like, yo, this ain't pay me like, I'm tight. I say whatever the you want me to say. Correct. That dude right there was like, yo, nah, we was cool. Them was my. And I walked up to the like, yo, y' all bugging the out here. Don't play like that.

[C]

That I didn't know the part about Big not supposed to go to London.

[A]

Pardon me, Ice. The other half of the dirty. Of dirty money.

I didn't know that.

[F]

Me either.

[A]

And she didn't. She. She was one of the people they show where. She loved him.

[F]

She loved him.

[A]

Still loves him still. And just in a very hurtful way was saying, this is funny. A few months ago, I needed him.

[F]

$5,000 or some, and he told me no.

[A]

So to watch him kind of beg. Yep. In that moment of desperation, there was.

[C]

A lot of little.

[A]

Even if we're not even talking about facts and storytelling. If you just watch closely enough, you'll see some things.

[F]

That was a piece of absolutely. He was a selfish.

[C]

I think up until the last minute. Like, if you watch this, where he talking to his lawyer, like, he on the phone with the lawyer. He never believed that this was happening. It almost seemed like, yo, I got out of everything that's ever. I was always managing to find a way to get away with this shit. I don't think he took it serious until I put them cuffs on him.

[F]

I ain't get it from. I ain't necessarily interpret it like that. Even hearing Shorty talk, that she was valid, the girl, Capricorn, okay? She was valid to me because they didn't necessarily just rip them down. They told good shit and they told bad shit. And I think that those three people, for me, really painted a different story than the rest of the people. Like the girl, she loved that nigga. And she was like the other half of Dirty.

[A]

Oh, Dirty Money Guy.

[B]

I forgot.

[C]

It's something with a kalina.

[A]

All right.

[F]

She was like, fam, I love you, dog. Like, I've known you for a decade. I'm losing my kids. I asked you for five grand, and you said no.

[A]

And then she turned around and still, still did it. She turned around and still wrote that letter in his defense.

[F]

And this is what I was gonna say, bro. You could hear him even when he was talking to the Ride Kid. Puff can talk, bro. He can talk. Cause he wanted to say some shit to the Ride Kid like, yo, my nigga, stop threatening me on the phone. But he wasn't even saying it like that. He was like, yo, bro, you taking this somewhere. Don't gotta go, bro.

[D]

I know your lawyer's gotta do whatever.

[F]

I'm pay you, my nigga, like, be cool. I'm going through some shit. I'm gonna give you your money. But you threatening me on the phone. Somebody else would be like, what you gonna do? He didn't do that. He's like, yo, bro, we kill me, bro.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? I could tell that he could talk. Super Nigga could talk his way out of anything. I could hear it. That was.

[C]

Well, shit, he been doing it forever.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Do y' all believe that he sent flowers to 50 Cent?

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[F]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[B]

What do you think?

[A]

I wouldn't be shocked. He probably did.

[F]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[A]

Probably had him sent over there.

[B]

Speaking of 50, that's what I was asking if 50 posted on Twitter afterward. Obviously, he was celebrating the success of it, but he said what other people would. Y' all want me to cover? Is there another doc like this y' all would want to see from somebody else done? Not necessarily from him, but done this way.

[A]

Yeah. I can't tell y', all, though, this.

[C]

One, I. I funny, is a lot of this I was watching in the Puff doc made me think of this other person that who some of the. I'm not.

[B]

I'm not. Okay. Is anybody we can say on the show?

[A]

No, we wouldn't do that. That would be irresponsible and we don't want to go through what Malaga just went through. I'm keeping my 59,000.

I don't give a. I'm keeping my. Let me think, let me think. Let me think though. That's interesting then. You can't answer it without being a rat.

[B]

I think you can because I think there's some things that are just so public that you just want more info on. Like, for example, Death row records and. Or Suge Knight.

[E]

I thought Suge Knight.

[B]

I would want to see a four part doc on that. I mean, he's already in jail. I'm not trying to.

[A]

I want to see that type of big budget about like Adam 22. Oh, I want to see it in the podcast world. And let me shut up because I got the most info.

[F]

That's funny. I think the doc was well put together. So it don't necessarily have to be something negative. If it's something informative, yeah, I would love it. But the negative shit I could do without.

[B]

Anybody you want to see one on in particular?

[F]

Nah, not off the top of my head.

[A]

Cool. And there you have it. Good talk. Indeed. Great talk. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize pay.

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[F]

I don't think nobody did.

[A]

Good. I'm sure someone that's deflecting people got.

[F]

Their Last week was the anomaly in.

[C]

Football, but it's cool.

[A]

Well, you bombed six times for the people that trust us up here. So here go is picks this week when you bomb. It's the ishpi. Yeah, yeah. I can't Stand by that. I can't stand BY that. That A.J. brown for more than 57 receiving yards. He get whatever he wants since he threatened Jaylen Herz, threw the ball to that 20 times. The Eagles not even playing to win.

[B]

They.

[A]

They ain't playing to win. They just playing to make A.J. brown happy. I know I was playing against him in fantasy. The that had him was 2 and 10 and whooped up on me. Let's go with Devon a chain. That's another one of ish man hands.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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I want to shout out to them Club 520 boys. Yes, sir. TB handing the guys ink. The deal with Adidas. Let me hit the round of applause because this is groundbreaking. This is big. We love to see podcasters just make a make a way. For sure. Make a way. They did that. It makes all the sense in the world. Hey, more applause than that guy. Don't cut off the applause for the 520 boys so fast. It just makes all the sense in the world. Extremely happy for those guys. They continue to just break ground and find new ways of doing things. I'm extremely proud of them. Extremely happy for them. I saw the commercial they did. It looks great.

[F]

Fire.

[C]

Yeah, it looks fire.

[A]

No, it was great. Derrick Rose called up. Who else called?

[C]

James Harden.

[A]

James Harden called up. It was good. You love to see it. Congratulations. Congratulations to not only Adidas, but to five, the Club 520 boys. Man, y' all deserve it. Y' all deserve it. Brandy and. Brandy and Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Different beef. You almost went to the old one.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, right? Brandi and Beyonce. There's a lot of talk about Beyonce going to the Boy is Mine concert and not speaking to Brandi. I only know about this because of Ray J. I feel like Ray J has been in the news entirely too much in the last three to four weeks. But fuck it. We here. I never thought about this before. Brandi and Beyonce not speaking to each other.

[B]

Do we have any reason to think it's a beef other than Ray J saying, like, so for those who don't know, y' all saw the Ray J video, right? When he's, like, pleading to Beyonce like, we love y'. All. We respect you and Jay, why don't y' all come? When y' all come to all these shows, why don't y' all come and speak to us? Don't just speak to Monica kind of thing. I'm like, oh, was it a us thing? Yeah, he definitely said us. Cause my whole thought was, hey, Ray J, maybe. Maybe this isn't about Beyonce, Brandi, at all. It's you. Maybe what you're doing right now might be the reason why they don't stop by. I mean, Monica took his phone in the middle of the show the other day, night.

[E]

Why?

[A]

That was hilarious. Because all the starts from Ray J having a phone. So he was at the show. Monica saw him, said, give me that phone. Playfully. Of course she gave it back. But I feel Monica and you. Monica know now, right? Monica know. I can't say how she know, but Monica know she know.

[B]

So I think maybe it ain't a beef.

[F]

Yeah, I don't think so. I just might be moving through the stadium.

[C]

Not stopping. I'm all right.

[A]

It's stopping.

[C]

Hold on now.

[A]

Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.

[E]

It's her show.

[C]

It's Brandy.

[F]

Monica.

[A]

Monica.

[C]

The Boy Is Mine tour.

[F]

I'm here to see my sister Kelly.

[E]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Now we about to get into show etiquette.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know what this is? And you stopped and saw. Oh, you stopped and saw her. You stopped and saw Monica.

[A]

You stopped and saw everybody. Did he say that?

[F]

I ain't say that.

[A]

Every single person Beyonce has. There's some pictures with.

[C]

So now it's. It looks like something going on. I saw everybody but you.

[A]

And if you think hard enough, I mean, the big, big celebs will never say, but if you think about them hard enough, the people, that they're never associated with any of the people that's even associated with the people. If they never associated with them, I assume there's something going on. And I ain't seen Brandi. I mean, I ain't seen Brandi and Beyonce in nothing in anything for over 20 years.

[C]

30 years.

[E]

That's a good point.

[B]

I hadn't thought about it until this.

[A]

Yeah, same, same. And, I mean, I heard Lauren from the Breakfast Club say that she did some Digging to find out if this was true. If this was not true, and she says it's true, I'm getting this from her. So if it's wrong, kill her. But she also says that she hears some of the reasoning behind it is just them both coming up, coming up, coming up. In the music business being those girls. Brandi was the girl. Then Beyonce came and we know how that story went. So yeah, I got a little bit. I got I don't fuck with you and then once you don't fuck with somebody and then they skyrocket.

Or the other way you don't fuck with somebody and you skyrocket.

[C]

But it depends. Did you do something during that I don't fuck with you face? You get what I'm saying? Like if it's just you over there, I'm over here. That's one thing. But if this person is skyrocketing and you throwing some shade, you might deny something or you try to use whatever influence you had. Like, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

Not publicly throwing shade at nobody.

[C]

I said nothing about publicly. I've said nothing about publicly.

[A]

I'm just saying we would never know.

[B]

True.

[A]

We wouldn't.

[C]

We would have no idea this many years later. Something had to have happened. It ain't just we were both on the rise. Either one of us was at higher than the other and hated on the other one in some way.

Something had to have just happened. It ain't just we both.

[A]

If I'm just. If I'm just talking, which I do.

[C]

For you, of course.

[A]

Well, Brandy was on Scorching Hot way before Beyonce. Yeah. And Brandy come from that Whitney school of. You know, she come from that. The Whitney. Who's the other one?

[C]

The older one.

[A]

No, no, no. Who's Whitney's OG anyway?

[B]

She come from.

[A]

Yeah. All that diva time. Get this talentless away from me. I'm not saying Brandy said that, but I could see a world where if you. Brandy, during the I want to be down. It's 96 Moesha then. Yeah. Who. Who's who? Who Destiny?

[B]

Who?

[E]

I was. I was. I disagree with you, Ice. I think that it could just be a come up thing just because. Because women are always pitched against each other.

[F]

That's true.

[E]

So even if you don't have an issue with her, it's going to be an article about it. It's going to be on empty bet jams. It's going to be. It's always alluded to. So I think it's very hard not to fall into that and then I don't even know if I would say the fans, because without social media, I don't know how much impact the fans have on those kind of situations. But for sure, media, when you back then you're doing a lineup of interviews all day and people keep coming constantly.

[F]

Saying shit, hearing you.

[C]

What. What better way to, to put that to bed? If I'm at your show, I know what people are saying and ain't never been no thing between us, but that's what I'm saying.

[E]

I, I, I think what I'm, what I'm saying is I'm on top of the moon.

[A]

Ain't nothing going to bed.

[F]

No.

[B]

Or, or no.

[E]

I'm. No. Yeah. What I'm saying is that it's. The damage is done then and now. We don't. With each other. Nothing happened. But we too far gone because we was always pitched against each other. That's what I'm saying. So we don't speak now because of the building up before.

[F]

A small comment in the interview.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Who?

[A]

It may be some credence today.

[C]

It could be, it could be something.

[F]

Because they put Beyonce against everybody. It was Ashanti. It was like, I remember that. Kerry Hills, every woman in the world, they had tried to compete with her.

[C]

At one point or another.

[B]

Help me think through this, though. So, so if, if they, if there was an issue, Brandi and Beyonce would know about it. Right. It's unlikely that one of them would know and the other one wouldn't. Right. So if Brandi knows about. About it, then Ray J would know about it. Is it a world where Brandi has a beef with Beyonce that Ray J don't know about?

[F]

Yes.

[B]

See, I don't see that. I don't see that. That's her best friend.

[F]

No. It depends on how big the beef is. 1. And Brandi might not have been just out here publicizing the beef.

[C]

That could be Ray J brother not publicizing anything.

[A]

Ray J knows.

[C]

Ray J would know.

[A]

Ray J knows and Ray J knows.

[B]

There was a third step to that. So if we assume. If Ray J knows, then why would Ray J publicize it? Cause he seems sincere. Even though he's doing Ray J's.

[A]

Repeat that question 10 times.

[B]

10 times. I got you. I got you. Let me say it different. He seemed befuddled. Yeah. Like I really. Why ain't y' all fucking? He seems sincerely like, I love y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

He said we. He kept using the we. I feel like if his sister had a beef with Beyonce, he wouldn't Be up there saying, we love you. Why aren't you speaking to us? And unless that was awesome, Beyonce was.

[A]

Amerie, he wouldn't have been talking like that. He talked. He spoke like that out of respect. But what he also was saying was some of the same things that he was saying to Mario, which is, we the Norwoods, nigga. We ain't chump. Like, you know us.

[C]

Come speak to us.

[A]

We know you. We came up, you know, and you're at this show. And that's some of the difficulty with having Kelly Roland on your show.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie to you. That is some of the difficulties.

[D]

Difficulty opens things up a little bit.

[A]

I said. I said that when I came in here after I watched the show. I said, Kelly Rowland, with all of those records and how she was looking and how she was dressed, and I totally didn't even think about her network of people coming to this show. And I'm the headliner. No, no, you're not gonna have Sammy Davis Jr. Backstage. He don't take a picture with me. You got. You got Stevie Wonders here. All Obamas. No, no, that ain't gonna be happening. And none of them is talking to me. I'm gonna feel away.

[B]

You gonna feel away.

[D]

That's valid.

[A]

You're gonna feel away, dog.

[F]

Yeah, you are.

[A]

They taking Pictures with Patti LaBelle, Beyonce, Brandy, and. No, I want to be included. I mean, not Brandy. If I'm Brandy, I want to be included in that. Yep, I do.

[B]

You want to be down.

[E]

See what you did there?

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[D]

She might have been sitting up in a room. Room, though.

Missed the picture.

[E]

And Beyonce's not her best friend.

[A]

Y' all should keep this going.

[D]

Stuff.

[E]

But this has left Ray J brokenhearted. Oh, you took mine. Let's go.

[A]

Nada. You took mine.

We're running out of titles, people. Damona, if you go do your show in Tacoma, Washington, this weekend, if you ain't got tickets.

[B]

7Th.

[A]

If you go do your show and one of the opening comedians is tight with Chappelle, and them and Chappelle come in, smoke a cig, talk to everybody backstage, take pictures to everybody but Damona.

[E]

Oh, my God. That's a problem.

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm with her, though. It's a problem. I'm trying to think show N. I'mma find you at SOB.

[D]

The other office space over there.

[E]

Yeah. That's crazy when you think about it in that way. That's crazy. Especially because you talk about R and B. She at the top of it, David. The top of Comedy. You. Yeah, you would want to. I mean, I was just polite to say, what's up?

[A]

And the video look. Shady. The video look. The security dude saying, make wave. Make wave. Brandy coming through. I never seen Beyonce move so fast that I get. Get in the hide. Now, I'm not saying that. That she was hiding. She could have just been listening to the security and moving out the way. Fam, fam, I agree with you. Freeze.

[C]

Okay, Beyonce's listening to the security moving out the way.

[D]

She might be polite. Freeze.

[B]

Get.

[E]

I know she's compliant.

[A]

I'm sure enough for somebody phone y' all sleeping on.

[E]

I know she's polite.

[B]

She's very polite.

[C]

I seen what happened when Beyonce walked down the hallway. I've seen it.

[D]

What happen?

[A]

What happened? What. What happens when Beyonce walks out?

[C]

Clear the whole out, everybody. Yo, Beyonce's coming.

[F]

All y' all move.

[A]

They. What? You mean? They was you in the hallway?

[C]

Yeah, until they said, yo, all y' all move. Beyonce is walking. Everybody move.

[A]

And you moved.

[C]

You goddamn right, Julius.

[A]

Biggest freeze.

[C]

They got a private militia walking them down there. Yeah, we all move.

[A]

All right, but how fast did you move? It's like, take your time.

[C]

At least everybody got their ass out the way.

Everybody got their ass out the way. They got a. That little Russian militia dude.

[A]

And I just feel like they would have featured together on some type of song somewhere. It makes. It makes too much sense. I be needing to know what people beef. Beef is about, though. Before I jump in and pick a side, I need to know what to be. I love you. When I love both of y' all too much. I need to hear the particulars on the matter. Recently, I forgot maybe it was tmz. Somebody came out and was like, we finally found out the reason behind the Solange kick. Jay Z in the elevator, and that's because he was flirting with whatever the girl was in the Met gal, wherever they was at. And I'm like, okay, well, then that was overblown. If this is the real reason, that's what happened then.

[D]

Well, we still got two classic albums, but now they don't hit the same.

[A]

Yeah. If that's the reason, we gotta jump.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Lemonade and the Carters.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

That's probably the most. That's probably the close.

[B]

Oh, that was. That was. That was ill. Yeah.

[A]

What?

[B]

Well, you got to let that go, bro.

[C]

He got two classic.

[B]

It's the worst take. It's one of your worst takes.

[A]

A lot of bad.

[E]

What's one of his worst takes?

[B]

He doesn't like 444.

[D]

I don't love that album either.

[F]

I don't like 444 neither.

[C]

We ain't got to do it. We beat it into it.

[A]

What did you do for Jay Z's birthday the other day?

[C]

You know he'll celebrate Jay Z's birthday before his.

[A]

Yeah, no, that's why I'm asking him. Yeah, what you do?

[B]

You make somebody something.

[F]

The fact that y' all know it was his birthday speaks more about y' all than me.

[C]

So you didn't know you a know.

[A]

You did not know that December 4th was Jay Z's birthday?

[D]

He has a song.

[F]

Yeah, but I. I'm not thinking about it on December 4th. If y' all didn't say that to.

[D]

Me, it's not in your calendar.

[B]

At no point yesterday did you mean.

[A]

The song starts with his mom saying.

Yo, what did you do on the 4th, though? Don't interrogate us.

[B]

Don't even.

[A]

Don't reverse our joke. Joking on you.

[C]

You ain't got a little 92, right?

[F]

What is a 92?

[C]

You got 92 for him.

[A]

He went and got the. The sneakers.

[C]

92 bricks, you know, just. Just on a hole.

[E]

Oh, y', all.

[A]

I'll tell on h so fast.

[E]

Oh, my God, stop.

[A]

That would be the indoor friendship. I would send him up. I would send him jacking. Hey, yo, if you have it, don't tell me. I'm telling you don't. But if you have it, don't tell me.

[C]

Playing about snitching.

[A]

It's a snitch.

[B]

He ain't even in trouble.

[A]

Right this corner, Nobody.

[E]

Nobody in this corner would rat. This whole corner, not telling.

[C]

I ain't ratting.

[A]

Wait, she was open.

[E]

When I call a cop type Rob.

[C]

I'm not no rat. I'm not doing with y'.

[E]

All.

[F]

That's.

[E]

You going to avoid it so you don't have to tell it. You don't know.

[B]

But if we in the car, I say, y' all got 92 in the.

[C]

In the truck, you have a problem.

You better tell them about your 92.

[F]

Get out the car.

[C]

I'm not that. That is what would happen truthfully, in real life. I'm not getting that car.

[A]

If somebody else tell me, ish boy, 92 brick. He ain't even got to be the one. If I hear. If you just hear it, you going, I'm telling you, you better keep it clean.

[E]

That is crazy.

[A]

Keep it clean.

[C]

But they not even question.

[A]

Live, live the straight and narrow. He's doing this Live, live.

[C]

Straight for the love of the game.

[E]

This for the love of the game is crazy.

[A]

Put the end of this bromance.

[C]

That is crazy, sir.

[E]

Now y' all got to argue over jail. 15 minute calls.

[F]

You was looking at the to kid with admiration.

[A]

I was looking at who. Not that you got to talk.

[C]

I'm cool. Who I was looking at my man. That was the.

[A]

What's his name, Tor.

[F]

The dude that's writing a report. The. The sport reporter.

[B]

Pablo.

[A]

Cuz there is a Tor.

Pablo.

[B]

You got smoke with Pablo?

[E]

You could tell when it was happening, but I got to really see because I was over there. I'm like, oh, like this. So you. When you think about them possibly going.

[F]

Away or something, you.

[E]

I'm like, no, he don't give a. He don't care.

[B]

He just called him a snitch just now.

[C]

I'm a rat bastard.

[E]

It did not.

[B]

I was going to say that, but yeah, no, he did. I just said, okay, I won't go.

[A]

But yeah, but why you take that approach like you still gang banging or in the street?

[E]

It's not the point.

[C]

That's not the point.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Has nothing to do with that.

[D]

He standed on principle.

[F]

Yo, dog, you come.

[A]

That's what you're supposed to do with him staying on.

[F]

No, no, no, no. This don't have nothing to do with street.

[B]

Break it down.

[F]

Somebody doing something with your tea that don't affect you. Somebody doing something that don't affect you don't have no bearing on your life. None of that. And you start a crusade to bring that person down. I think that's corny.

[C]

See, that's where we differ at just a little bit. And I told Mark this. I think dude got a call from another one of them billionaires that sicced him on him, which is the type of games that they play amongst each other. He was the weapon. So, you know, yo, just in case it changes.

[B]

Hold on. Just in case the audience missed it. Just in case the audience missed it. We're talking about Pablo Torre's interview here where he did an investigative journalism project investigating the LA Clippers allegedly coloring outside the lines and. And getting Kawhi Leonard on some stuff outside the salary cap.

[A]

I gotta go watch it again now that y' all saying ish hated.

[C]

Oh, no, he ain't like that.

[D]

I'm pretty sure Erickson didn't put his. His face on camera when y'.

[E]

All, When y' all sitting in it or you sitting there, I don't think you could catch it. But being over there I don't look at it.

[A]

That's the thing. Oh, well, you got to look at it.

[E]

It's hard not to look at.

[A]

No, not for me. You know? Not for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Beauty's beauty, man.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

You know what I mean? It's universal.

[A]

It's a Monopoly game.

[E]

You welcome.

[A]

Now y' all sisters.

[E]

We've been brothers.

[A]

Thanks, my sister.

[E]

Yo, y' all go too hard last week. Somebody said we were saying something woman to woman. That was you talking about when we talking woman to woman? Y' all are crazy.

[A]

No, that was funny. Let's stay in Beefland. Let's stay in Beefland. Who else is beefing? Who else is beefing? Snoop and dad.

[C]

We got Dads and Snoopy.

[D]

Oh, it's Evergreen.

[C]

Yeah. Like every couple months, Daz comes out with another. Well, with the same beef over and over and over. He claiming Snoop bought Death Row and owes him a bunch of money.

This is just an ongoing thing. Like, I don't understand it from Daz's point of view. Just because Snoop bought Death Row in. I think it was 22, if I'm not mistaken.

First thing they did was a Dog Pound album, Right? Did an East Siders album. Like, did. Did things went back to the people who found.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Been there from. From the rip. Got y' all torn the whole.

And you're. You're beefing with him. Like, I. I don't. I don't understand that. It looks like somebody tried to help you out, but you might have been.

[F]

You might have did that out of desperation.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

That's like.

[C]

Daz also sued Death Row prior to Snoop.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

No, Maybe one of his money, according to him. I'm just addressing your original thing.

[A]

So.

[F]

So it's like somebody saying. I remember when Puff and them did the reunion tour. Mace was on a reunion tour.

[C]

Right.

[F]

But that didn't negate the fact that Puff owed Mace money.

[C]

Well, there's one piece there. Puff owned Bad boy from the 90s. So you're beefing over your back catalog money that you owed that Snoop did not own that label.

[F]

We're not talking about that.

[C]

I'm just saying that.

[F]

I'm talking about principle of you complaining. But you still went on tour with this man, so the two things could be true. Somebody might have needed the money or they went on tour for whatever reason. That don't mean. Or negate the fact that they might still be owed some proceeds.

[E]

Yeah, correct.

[C]

But again, I'm speaking to.

[F]

Wasn't the dawn chick on Puff's love.

[E]

Album Dirty Yeah, money get funny, boy.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? And that's what he was saying, like, yo, dog, you just was on my album. Now, magically, we and I might have been on with some financial. You never know what's going on out here. Don't be.

[C]

I agree with that. I just. This is. This is a little different again. Like I said, Daz's beef from I've been reading into this is old. That he's old. Which was prior to Snoop owning Death Row. It's like your beef. I don't get how you do it.

[D]

Yeah, if you buy a company.

[F]

That's not how physical works.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you buy a company, you inherit.

[F]

All of the debt as well as the revenues to that particular company, because.

[E]

Who else is he gonna go to? You know what I mean? The niggas going Suge's and Suge waiting on breakfast.

[F]

Nigga. When. When, When. When. Netflix just bought HBO. They incurred HBO's assets as well as their debts. It don't go away because you got acquired by somebody.

[C]

Understandable. Without saying too much.

I spoke to some folks and.

[A]

And y' all know Ice is Death Row.

[D]

I know that's true.

[A]

We forgot.

[C]

Say what you want.

[A]

Ice is Death Row.

[C]

I am not Death Row.

[A]

Played that sexy Red Snoop record and gave it away. That's when we learned Ice was deaf.

[C]

Ro.

[A]

He ain't listening to.

[D]

I knew that before.

[C]

I still like that song. That's why it ain't bad. Yeah, I heard it in the club. So anyway, went back to Deco.

[A]

Shut up. Yeah, went back to Club Deco to hear a little bit something.

[B]

Be saying.

[A]

Was that a by? Yeah, yeah, I heard it in the club.

[C]

I did scurry.

[A]

You scurried when Beyonce.

[C]

Your man right here telling you I'm.

[A]

On a new joke.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You scurried when Beyonce walked down the road. I mean, I wouldn't have been there exact.

[C]

You, actually. You was outside in the car.

[A]

Oh, sleep. Yeah, sleep.

[C]

You was outside sleeping the car.

[A]

That's when all y' all was dick riding them. Y' all go ahead.

[B]

I'll be here.

[E]

You go.

[A]

I'll be sleep.

That's when they was dick riding Beyonce. We going next. Where we going? I'm an ARB in the Bourbon. My.

[C]

It was some. Some spot uptown. It was like a little speakeasy. It was a pizza joint in the front with a door that opened and took it to a club.

[E]

Okay?

[C]

So everybody's lined up in the hallway, going into the club part in the back, and. And then they Just came up. Yo, Beyonce, hov is walking in. Everybody gotta move.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And it was like 15, 20 people. Little skinny hallway. They was like, Yo, Beyonce, Hov is walking in. Clear this up.

[A]

Hey, guess where Joe was at.

[E]

Sweet.

[C]

Yeah, cool.

[A]

Give a about this club. Get me out of here. Tired.

[B]

You should get autographed.

[C]

No, I got my whole autograph years ago.

[D]

No, we're talking about Beyonce. No, no, you got Beyonce autograph.

[E]

You have a whole autograph.

[D]

What are you signing?

[C]

Stefan Marbury Jersey, actually.

[A]

Why your mouth open like the whole grandma boy.

[E]

The first thing I thought was like, when get them. Do y' all walk around with the Sharpie like, you know you going to catch the person.

[F]

That's the real first thing you thought.

Mona.

[A]

The real. Tell the truth. That right. Ice has an autograph book, Mona.

[C]

What do you mean he has a book? I don't have a.

[A]

Filled up with all the autographs. He got Harry Potter.

[C]

I don't have.

[E]

You have a scrapbook?

[C]

No, I don't have a scrapbook.

[E]

Done.

[C]

I had a Marbury jersey because it.

[E]

Was a nice game.

[C]

We was in the back.

[B]

This ain't helping.

Don't tell it.

[C]

All right, then I won't tell it.

[A]

Oh, my God, please tell it.

[C]

You had it on. No, no, no, no.

[A]

Yes, he did.

[E]

He had him.

[A]

Let me tell you.

[C]

I'll talk to you because these talk, they're immature.

[B]

Go ahead. Yeah.

[C]

Chris Gatlin's father took a couple of us to the game.

[A]

Okay. He dropped a name.

[C]

What?

[A]

That's.

[C]

He worked out. He was the vice person with our. At our house school.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And he took a couple kids to the school. I'm to the game. Back when they was playing. Back when the Nets played in the Meadowlands.

[A]

We're there.

[C]

He's like, yo, we take y' all in the back. So I bought a Marbury jersey because I wanted to get Marbury to sign it. And then while. And then hov is walking by and I'm like, oh, yo, sign this too, please. He signed it.

[A]

I don't let nobody take me in the back.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

You're just doing too much.

[C]

Yeah, you do yours right out in.

[A]

The public doing too much.

[F]

That's right.

[A]

But where do you at? Where do you have that autograph?

[C]

I don't even know where it's at that.

[B]

Now.

Did you, like, frame it or anything?

[E]

Jay Z or Sean Carter?

[B]

Jay Z. Okay.

[C]

He signed Jay Z.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

A couple of my people have my. My signature tatted on them.

[A]

Oh, did you do it?

[E]

Did you write me? Can you shut up? They asked me, can you sign this for. They got tattoos? Yeah, like three.

[C]

I'm saying, did you sign them? And then they got a tattoo at the Me Greet.

[E]

They. I signed. I signed my name and then they went and took it to the.

[F]

Let me ask you, your signature is consistent.

[E]

Oh, it's ugly as the tattoo.

[F]

Is it consistent, though?

[E]

What? Is it the same thing? Yeah, pretty much, yeah.

[C]

You signed Damona.

[E]

I just did. Hashtag this. I did. What's on my arm? Yeah, hashtag the acronym.

[D]

You got your own signature on your.

[E]

No, I have my Instagram name, Parks, because don't come records too long.

[A]

Wait, are you okay?

[E]

You don't got your button tatted on you.

[F]

You just got the acronym. Hold on.

[C]

So you just got these?

[E]

I sure do. I got Hashtag these. I don't like how hard Corey laughing about hating God.

[A]

You got your Instagram name.

[B]

I tried to set this up for you earlier with the tattoos. You.

[A]

I missed it earlier. Oh, with the pound sign.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't care.

[A]

That used to be on the rotary phone.

[E]

Here. I don't give a what these. Think about my tattoo. That too.

[A]

I'm not mad.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Self promotion.

[F]

So you got your Philly?

[E]

I just got that. I had to get dark. Yeah. Cuz it was faded.

[A]

I thought that was henna like you. You really went and put that.

[E]

I sure did.

[A]

I thought you just had that same thought we all had when we go to fucking.

[E]

I've seen a lot of your tattoos, Joe, so don't do that.

[B]

Huh?

[E]

I seen a lot of your tattoos.

[A]

My tattoos to me even look a absolute mess. I don't encourage.

[B]

I was gonna ask you, are you in a ollie? Are you in your post T tattoo phase? Like you never going to get another one.

[A]

I'm not getting no damn tattoo.

[E]

And he's tatty.

[B]

Jo got no tattoos.

[A]

It wouldn't be crazy.

[B]

How about the rest of y' all got nothing.

[A]

This one place.

[B]

This is a. I assumed you did no test.

[A]

Hey, Antoine.

[B]

No test. I figured you didn't do it, bro.

[A]

There's one place.

[C]

It's against my religion.

[A]

There's still room left.

[E]

Parks, you no test neither, babe.

[D]

No, no, no.

[B]

TS and body is a temple.

[E]

Curious about people that don't have any tattoos.

[C]

I just told you the body is a temple.

[A]

Ice couldn't get no tattoos and come in his house. And come in his mama house.

[C]

Oh, actually, it's the opposite. I would have been able to. Oh, my brother sat there and told y' all how I could do whatever I wanted.

[F]

He couldn't.

[A]

You didn't, though.

[C]

I didn't want any tattoos.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There was nothing I loved enough that I wanted on me permanently.

[E]

Why the did you did? You had no rules and your brother had rules.

[C]

Because I was more trustworthy.

[E]

Y' all got different fathers.

[A]

There's another word for that.

[E]

Cause, listen, the father you like the most. Yeah, trust me. The father that's paying child support. You can get another fruit snack.

[A]

Yo, you a idiot, yo. You get another fruit snack.

[E]

Another fruit snack. I don't even want to get into it about the favorite. Every time I talk about that, people stiffen up. Because your parents have favorite kids. Some of y' all are the only kid, and you still ain't the favorite. That's okay. I was a favorite, but parents had favorites. There's no way you got a couple of these. You don't like one of them a little more than another one?

[B]

Yeah, they love one.

[E]

Always hollering and screaming, acting stupid.

[C]

It's like they got in trouble all the time. He was always doing.

[B]

Was he the favorite, though?

[E]

No, he's the favorite.

[B]

Cuz I probably got in trouble. He was the favorite.

[E]

He's the favorite.

[F]

I'm the favorite.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's been around my family, you know, I'm the favorite.

[E]

You still the.

[C]

To this day.

[B]

Is you the favorite?

[D]

He's old me, right?

[A]

You got to go.

[C]

He the only child asking my family, though.

[A]

He got a drive. Take a drive and see. It's been a little while.

[C]

Don't act. Don't.

[A]

Yeah, you the favorite. They gave you the Cherokee, right?

[D]

It was Toyota.

[A]

Ain't you the one that got the. The grand Jeep Cherokee? They left it to you, ain't it?

[E]

Are you the favorite?

[A]

My mom, when I ask her, cuz I asked, she. She says, I'm the favorite for six months, and he the favorite for six months.

[E]

Oh, that's so fair. She tells her friends to the truth.

[C]

No, she don't. Yeah, she.

[F]

You can't tell your brother the truth.

[A]

Yeah, my mom don't play about her kids.

[F]

Tell your brother the truth.

[A]

Even if somebody tell her who the favorite is, she. She slapped that right down. She don't play about her kids. She don't let me. She don't let me tell her who the favorite is.

[F]

Believe.

[A]

Yeah. No.

[B]

Do you have a favorite?

[A]

Do I have a favorite Dependent. Depends on the moment.

[E]

I do.

[A]

Depends on the moment.

[E]

You got a favorite, right? And they know it. I ain't even have. I mean, aspire to be like him.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Smush is my favorite.

[A]

Joe Rashad.

What makes him a favorite?

[E]

He's an individual. He's. He's. He's himself. He doesn't like rap music. He's like a little Republican. He got that on his own, you know what I mean? He's very funny, he's witty, and he loves the out of me.

[F]

He the only boy.

[E]

No, but he loves the out of me, though. Like, he's very.

[B]

Has he always been your favorite? Cause those are like personality traits from the gate.

[A]

But he was.

[E]

He was fucking funny. He was funny from the door, though. He had a lot of personality. From the door. Yes. The door being like from the beginning, from when he first came home. Oh, the door being his cat.

[A]

That was funny part.

[E]

Yeah. No, I have a favorite, though. It ain't a secret neither. I need to earn my love sounds.

[A]

Mark, you have a favorite?

No, no, cat. You know, Political Mark got a favorite.

[B]

And a least favorite.

[C]

He got a Yanny right here.

[F]

That nigga ain't got no.

[B]

What?

[C]

He got a. I'm.

[F]

I'm with you, mon.

[A]

He got a favorite.

[C]

Analicious.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

No, no, no. You have a favorite.

[C]

I can't have a favorite. I only got one that's biologically mine.

[E]

Yeah, so you can't, Right? That's true. You couldn't have a favorite. Yeah. That don't make sense. Yeah.

[B]

Or you could.

[E]

No, you can't. You can't.

[B]

Seem like an easy one.

[E]

You can't have a favor. You cannot.

[F]

I know.

[A]

Answer and a reason.

[C]

I know.

I know.

[E]

That's where the joke stop. That's not.

[B]

I know.

[F]

And they know.

[E]

That's a problem.

[C]

Yeah, we not. We not.

[E]

But yeah, I think. I think people. People don't realize.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Move it the on.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Treat that like Beyonce walking.

[A]

Clear out.

[E]

Look, ice ain't around boundaries.

[B]

I respect that.

[A]

My kids be so bad. Sometime I be in the house. Like, man, I'm pretty cool. I'm my favorite.

[B]

These. These two little.

[A]

A horror show.

[B]

Yeah, that's how I feel.

[E]

I get a kick out of my kids, though. My kids Funny.

[B]

Yeah. I really don't have a favorite, as when I think about it, I like different things about each one. And it depends on the mood I'm in.

[D]

That's a good answer.

[E]

And yeah, diplomatic is not true.

[B]

Depends on the mood I'm in.

[F]

Mark esque.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't have a least favorite. I say that, G. Thanks. I think he does.

[B]

I don't have a least favorite.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Cuz I have such a different relationship to each one. They. They didn't all grow up in the same house. They didn't all come around the same time. So that's what say so everyone is different.

[C]

That's true.

[E]

Like I know my favorites won't pay.

[A]

My that right there when he put that. That Huffington Post boyfriend I don't know talking about now you.

[E]

You got the kind of voice you could do that you could do like phone sex or you could do the. The tapes that you go to sleep like motivational tapes to go to sleep or whatever. Motivational tapes to go to sleep. But he could do that though. Like you are the best.

[A]

I'm sharing some I shouldn't be sharing so I'mma just give a little bit. My girl said and one of the times she went my phone. I guess there was a time where there was some voice notes you say and your stupid ass love your voice. They every voice note they said is o your voice Here your goofy ass go leaning into my. You got a nice voice leaning in with your dumb ass.

Like a suck.

[F]

Ass single Lenny Green.

[E]

You know how to throw his voice like the probably. I don't know if it's music but yeah.

[A]

Oh man.

[F]

Inflection.

[A]

What else? What else we got? What else we got?

[B]

I'm feeling bad for Chris Paul.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

They did him dirty.

[C]

That was nasty. That was nasty.

[B]

Maybe, but maybe I. Yeah, maybe. But I. I feel. Cuz I feel like there's more to the story I'm hearing there's more to the story and there's almost always more to the story. When some shit happens that don't make sense, it's usually because you don't to have enough information. That's my general rule of thumb in life. But I still didn't like the way this went.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

Well, what can you tell us about what you heard?

[B]

Well, let me tell the audience the story first. Chris Paul was basically effectively waived from the LA Clippers in what was his farewell season at like 4am like 4am he said he on a road trip. On a road trip we saw because he posted on social media. I was just told to stay home or I was sent home. Now according to Bleacher Report and some other places. You know, one of the big execs from the Clippers did fly out to talk to him about it, but ultimately he was told to not return to the team. This was his last season and I think that's important. Lawrence Frank Lawrence Frank Lawrence.

[A]

Frank said he'll take the blame for it, which means that it ain't him.

[B]

Right, Exactly. He's taking the fall for it. Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. And. And they're saying that, you know, and I'd love to hear what you heard, but what they're also saying is he was around and they're just trying to hold people accountable. Some of the players, some of the front office members. That's where I get confused a little bit because I don't know how much holding people accountable I'd be doing in my retirement season.

[F]

Yeah, that's who he is, bro.

[C]

Yeah, I was getting ready to say that's Emmy.

[F]

That's who he is, bro.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But sometimes you don't want to hear that shit from someone who's not really that anymore.

[F]

He's not that anymore, but that's a problem.

[A]

And you gotta know when to not be what you are.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You have to know when to not be what you are.

[F]

Are.

[A]

This is your last season. Okay.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

You requested. Hey, I want to end it here with my Lob City history. This is where I want to be. Go out there, Let us salute you. Let the crowd wave. Call it a day.

[C]

Mail it in, bro.

[D]

Especially as a team play like you're a point guard. Like a notorious team player.

[F]

No, the point guard is the spokesman for the team that holds everybody account accountable sometimes.

[C]

That's your role, the starting point.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[C]

Which I want him to do, though.

[F]

Yo, I don't have a chip. I think that this team has enough talent for me to get to the chip, which they do. And y' all niggas out here.

[A]

No, they don't.

[F]

Yes, they do.

[B]

No, they don't. You think the Los Angeles Clippers have enough talent?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Do you think. You think they could get past the. The Nuggets, I mean, the Thunder?

[F]

Yes.

[A]

No, you don't.

[B]

You think the LA Clippers get past the Thunders?

[A]

You love their record, right?

[F]

Now listen to what I'm saying before this flips into some stupid. I think they have enough talent to potentially beat the any team in seven games if they all on the same page.

[A]

Yeah. I don't see. You can't name six players from the.

[F]

Clippers who can't name six players from you Go.

[B]

Well, I'm not going to put you to the test, but what's the. What's the talent you see on the Clippers?

[C]

Clippers are six.

[F]

Kawhi is still Kawhi, I think.

[B]

I think he's not still Kawhi, but.

[F]

He Kawhi could get you 30 points on any night.

[A]

Yeah, but just not any night he plays.

[F]

Not every night. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

I think James Harden is James Harden.

[E]

He's not.

[A]

And that's an old school.

[F]

Listen to what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's gonna get you 50. I think he's still good. They got arguably a top three center in the NBA. Arguably. So I think that they have enough talent with the role players and all of that stuff with those three guys to win some games. I think they win some games last year. They was good last year. Toward the end of the season, they.

[C]

Started kicking fast, and I know the season just started. They're in 13th place in the West.

[B]

Yeah, they're not a good team.

[A]

They're going nowhere fast. And the team that they traded SGA to has their draft pick this year.

[F]

So if you're.

[A]

That whole shit is a dumpster fire and a dumpster fuck right now, what I'm saying. I'm not having the time argument.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[F]

Based on. Yeah, the organization is some bullshit. They have been bullshit for a decade. You come back here and you like, yo, fam, I've been on team teams. Chris Paul took a team that was worse than the Clippers to the playoffs in okc. That team wasn't. He took them.

[A]

I don't remember that team.

[F]

Yeah, he took them to the playoffs. So he looking at like, yo, fam, I've done more and got more out of less. Y', all, it's y' all effort. It's y' all this, it's y' all that. And he feels like he can speak to that. Based on. I'm Chris Paul.

[A]

He's wrong.

[F]

It's a matter of opinion.

[C]

I don't think he's wrong.

[A]

Well, it's not a matter of opinion.

[F]

I don't think he's wrong. They sent him home.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

So you're saying the should. He should be able to do that.

But I think you think he should. I think if you're a legend and you're a vet, you should be able to speak out even if you're not that person anymore. When Gary Payton goes to Miami the year they won the championship, in fact, he's still a vet and he's still Gary Payton. He should be able to say some shit. I don't care if you Shaq. I don't give a fuck if you the Cleveland Cavalier, Shaq, you shoot the Celtics, Shaq. Not the Celtics, Shaq.

[F]

He ain't talk shit.

[B]

You should be able to talk some. I agree, but.

[D]

But to a point.

[B]

To. That's where I'm going. And Chris Paul, and I've been hearing this for over a decade.

[F]

He's a dick. They said.

[B]

I wasn't gonna say that.

[F]

They say he's a dick, but he.

[B]

He wears on people. I'll say that. Team. Team teammates say that. He wears on people.

[F]

It's hard to get along with.

[B]

He's hard to get along with. And so if you are, I remember Allen Iverson was late to practice every day for his whole career. But when he came back to Philly last time and he lost his first step, suddenly being late to practice was a bigger deal because you're not right. Chris Paul's always worn people, you know, warn on teammates, but now that you're not the guy that can give you 20 and 10 every night, they don't want to hear that shit. And I think from what I've heard from some players in the league this week is that there's a tent. There was a significant tension between him and Tyron Lue that had grown over the course of the year. And so Tyron l didn't want him back.

[A]

Well, also, what I'll say, maybe even unfairly, because I didn't get this from nowhere, but when the news broke, the first person I thought of was James Harden.

[F]

Yeah, I did.

[A]

Because you have a repeat teammate.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On your team that was with you in Houston, where you also kind of got the. Yeah. So.

It'S.

[F]

That's not new. For the last decade, they've been saying he's hard to get along with, he demands excellence. All that other shit. They was like, yo. Like, they're not even sure when they start talking about the Laker trade, if him and Kobe would have butt heads or if they would have just been thick as thieves because they both approached the game with this intensity. That's insane.

[A]

Also with NBA teams.

The bad one specifically, when they're losing, trust you and me, that somebody in the front office is tasked with with figuring out why they're losing the personnel, the plays, the coach. So if I'm in the middle of a losing season, I'm not going nowhere. Pablo to just outed my man. He can't even plant the trees no more. James Harden is carrying this. Norman Powell is in Miami looking like every bit of that. Every bit of that. Dude, the last thing I want if I'm the front office is legendary. Chris Paul coming back Here.

[B]

Here.

[A]

Telling me all the way that we. That we're up and then bringing that in the locker room. Telling that to some of the players with the. The enthusiasm. The level of enthusiasm and effort you need in there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You don't want that. And you have to feel like the Clippers know who Chris Paul is.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So they know the backlash that was going to happen.

[F]

They do.

[A]

They know that they was going to get killed for this, and they did it anyway. So, I mean, I think you might.

[B]

Be giving them too much credit there.

[F]

And I think you might be everything.

[B]

That'S common sense for a team to know. The Clippers seem to do the opposite.

[F]

And I think you might be. You might have it wrong. They might have bought him there to be the veteran spark on the team to motivate these niggas and hold them accountable. That's a possibility. I'm sure that's probably within a locker room. You go get veteran people in your locker room to kind of corral the.

[B]

Younger troops, but how many of them do you need? If you got Kawhi Leonard and.

[F]

Talk, he not vocal. James Harden might not be the most.

[A]

Vocal, and James Harden might not talk neither. If it's a strip club in the city we playing in.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? So you got to get PJ Tucker, those type of dudes, to kind of corral the troops.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm split in this on one hand. I think no matter what Chris Paul does, you don't do that to him.

[C]

I feel like there's another way to do it.

[D]

Tell. Say he's injured or something.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[D]

There's a better way way to do that.

[C]

That was nasty.

[F]

Time out. They might have tried to do that. He's the one that took it to Twitter.

Well, like, they might have came out with an official report that he pulled a hammy he's out for.

[A]

But he wouldn't have gone to Twitter if they were working together to come out or not.

[C]

Just that. You'll tell me in the middle of the night, yo, yo, dogs, we sending you home.

[E]

What's up?

[C]

Like, it's a way to even do that. Maybe the next day.

[F]

Maybe we wait till we get back.

[C]

And we put you there.

[E]

So y' all saying that was spicy?

[C]

That shit was nasty.

[E]

It was on purpose, though. It was supposed to be.

[C]

That shit was nasty.

[B]

I still think there's some information missing.

[A]

Well, it's definitely information. If I'm the front office, I might not even like his retirement announcement. I just think the front office. They're the only people that can look at this from a different point of.

[C]

View and they might have had a bad taste from the joke or something. Could be.

[B]

One thing that I'm excited about for Chris Paul is a chance for him to finish this season. He's going to finish it somewhere else and I'm hoping he gets to finish to some place where he can. Charlotte. But I just wanted to finish somewhere we can play some meaningful basketball.

[A]

When the last time you seen in a Hornet game, it's a mess. Yeah, it's a. We just played them the other night. They got a bunch of dudes you can't name. They got a bunch of 19 year olds and Lonzo Ball almost made eight threes and brought him back from a 20 point deficit. There's nothing else going on over there.

[B]

I would love. I'd love to either see him be on a competitive environment for a playoff spot or a championship, go to an elite team and play just a couple minutes, or I'd like them to see a team like that where he's going to play a lot of minutes, even if they're not going very far. But he can at least finish his career playing real basketball, you know, 25, 30 minutes a night. I'd like to see one of those two things. I'd hate to see him at the end of a bench on a. On a team that's not going nowhere.

[A]

I would want to say that I wouldn't mind seeing him in some type of backup role on the Knicks. But the very first time I see him talking to Jalen Brunson aggressively, I'm getting him the out of there.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I don't want to see that.

[C]

So what do y' all think he goes.

[B]

What you say?

[C]

Where do y' all think he goes?

[A]

To bed. No, go to bed. Go to bed. I don't know why people have such a hard time going to bed.

[B]

Chris Paul, for me, no. He got a top 10 point guard of all time, one of the best point guards of his generation. I think he deserves a farewell tour.

[A]

I think people thinking that they deserve shit is.

[B]

I mean, I don't know if he thinks he deserves it. I just as a fan, would even love to say goodbye to him.

[A]

Chris Paul is now Chris Paul. And the Clippers, unfortunately now go down like the Denver Nugget. Carmelo. And it's unfortunate, it's a shame. But the Nuggets act like Carmelo Anthony didn't. Don't even exist. Yeah. By the grace of God. Thank God. He went to another team and had a run. He didn't win, but had a run. And I'm so happy that the Knicks celebrated him like they supposed to.

[D]

I think he was more celebrated in New York. Maybe it's just cuz I live in.

[A]

New York and and is currently to this, to this day, it.

[F]

I don't.

[A]

Chris Paul, whatever team he goes to, that, that, that history. Unless it's. Unless it's the Pelicans. Yeah. And who the wants to go there right now?

[D]

Yeah, I guess it would be the Pelicans.

[A]

It would be the Pelicans.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Cuz they were the Hornets when.

[C]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

Yeah, it's tricky because they actually switched. They did something they not supposed to do, which is switching. Switch names.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Not to switch names, but then they gave the franchise to the actual city versus the team.

[A]

Right. He just needed to go somewhere where again. And they should have did this on the Clippers where when you run out there and they introducing players or they put you in the game for whatever minutes you play, just wave to the crowd, take a bow, get a fist up and go back to doing what the fuck you was doing.

[B]

Right. That ain't a bad idea. That ain't a bad idea.

[A]

And you can do that side violently.

[B]

But I think a lot of the. The tension was in practice and in the locker room afterwards. It's not like he's on the court like saying you should have got on top of that screen. It's more like in practice like what the are y' all doing?

[C]

Yeah, I think he's still a competitor, yo. Like some of that really be in.

[A]

People and a coach.

[C]

If I'm out here, I'm. I'm doing this to the best of my ability. Even if I'm not who I used to be.

[A]

Even if it's to his detriment.

[C]

But I would have to. That's all I know.

[D]

I would have to imagine maybe I'm wrong, that there was a conversation before the conversation. I'm sure at some point during this short part of the season that we're into, someone said, yeah, you could chill.

[A]

Out a little bit, bro.

[D]

You're not here for this.

[A]

They wasn't looking.

[D]

I don't think they just said, you know what?

[A]

Get the fuck out of here.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

And it don't look like they were looking to do this the smoothest way possible. They let him pack for a road trip.

[B]

Yeah, I think something happened. Yeah, that's what I said. There's something.

[C]

The store that broke the camel's back happened on that road trip and it was like, you know what? We not even with yo, you gotta go.

[B]

But the last piece of this for me is just outside of Chris Paul, it's just the Clippers himself. There are a few franchises and maybe this is why I don't have the same position on Pablo Torre as Ish does. Although there's a lot of reasons why. But the big one is because I don't have any sympathy for the Clippers. Like, they're just such a poorly run team historically. Historically. I mean, from San Diego to la. I mean, honestly, Lob City is the one blip with. They were competitive and even then they weren't well run.

[A]

I think all. Everything you're saying is super unfair because these are not those Clippers. We've seen this Clipper, not this Clippers, but a recent Clippers team beat the Lakers, have traction, have motion, win, have identity. They have a new owner, the richest owner in the universe. They just built a new. A new arena. Like everything about these Clippers is the total opposite of your Lamar Odom Clippers.

[B]

And I thought that too, until the Ballmer thing happened. Right? And then it's like, oh, well, yeah, y' all got you culling outside. Of course. You got Kawaii.

[A]

What Ballmer thing? The plants.

[B]

Yeah.

I'm saying I just feel like.

[A]

Some Clipper can't go into old Clipper land. The plants. What I'm saying is even that, even that that's somebody. It's a scam, but it's somebody being innovative, trying to figure out how to get a star and keep him happy. That's not old Clipper to me either. I mean, yeah, Clippers like.

[B]

I mean, I guess what I'm saying is for me, the Clippers always will.

[A]

Be a dysfunctional no matter what.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. And some of this is, I agree they're different traditions and different owners, but it seems like no matter what they do, they end up as the Clippers. It's like Gilligan's Island. They just always end up back in the same place again. Even when they get Kawhi Leonard and Paul George, they together play, you know, together, don't play a whole ton of games.

[A]

It also doesn't help that that Paul George trade will go down as one of the worst trade ever in the history of.

[B]

They gave up the best player in the NBA.

[A]

They gave up a lot more than that.

[B]

And a whole bunch of draft picks.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying. Even this new Clipper team has done some real Clipper shit. So I don't have sympathy for them. And I'm only saying that to say, if we don't know what happened between Chris Paul and the Clippers, I'mma lean on the Chris Paul side, because the Clippers have done nothing in their history to make me feel like they handle shit the right way.

[A]

That's all I'm with Ice. Whatever Chris Paul did, he doesn't deserve that.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all I want.

[F]

He's Chris Paul. Yeah.

[C]

That's still Chris Paul.

[A]

Deserve that.

[C]

All right, who's been.

[A]

I think we can all agree that. The LeBron 10 point. 10 point streak has ended.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

You're championing Mark.

[A]

That's sick.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

You're a sickle.

[B]

No, you're missing what I'm saying. I love LeBron. What I'm saying is I love the fact that it ended with him making the right basketball play.

[C]

Yeah, that was.

[B]

That was. I thought that was. I thought that that was great. I mean, if you want to end your streak. And I'm sad that it ended. It's one of streaks I've ever seen. 18 years. But I'm like, he could have taken that shot. And there's a lot of players in the league that would have taken that shot to try and get 10 points.

[A]

He ended in the most LeBron way that it could.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

And then thank God that Rui hit that shot.

[B]

Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. So I'm saying, Salute to LeBron. Like, to me, if you look at LeBron's legacy, this is like an embodiment of it. You know what I'm saying? Even when he didn't score the 10 points, he did it because he made the right basketball play and they won the game for making the pass difference.

[A]

When I say the LeBron streak ended and you say, yes. We don't get all that content.

[C]

It looked a little crazy.

[A]

We don't get all that extra content that you threw out there.

[B]

It was. I'm sorry. Because I was excited to talk about it. It wasn't on the board, and I was like, oh, yes, we get to talk about it. I was excited.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Yeah. I've been really happy to see.

[A]

Ish.

[F]

What do I say? I'm not disagreeing with him.

[A]

No, I'm asking you about. You're a Laker fan. So I'M throwing it to you now and we working.

[F]

No, no, no, no. You said ish.

[A]

Like, I just want to hear your thoughts, period.

[B]

Period.

[A]

No, about the streak. And then as a Laker fan, I.

[F]

Don'T care about that shit.

[C]

I care about us winning games.

[F]

So him making that play and we win the game based on that play is all I give a fuck about.

[A]

Got it? Do y' all think we ever see this again?

[F]

See what a LeBron type of person?

[A]

No, that type of streak, that longevity is insane.

[B]

That's tough. Eighteen years, a long time.

[F]

Staying healthy that long and playing at an optimal level is really, really hard to do. Even with today's technology, that shit is hard to do.

[A]

To do, bro.

[C]

I don't think we see that a.

[F]

20 year career is hard to do.

[D]

Of like playing well at a high level.

[F]

Yo, just playing at that level of, yo, you running and you jumping and you pounding on your body. That is hard to do for 20 years, bro.

[A]

I'm with everything y' all saying because we on air.

If we are not on air, then if I'm LeBron James after that game, I'm hitting the Luca and Austin Reeves group chat to tell them, yo, give me some more shots while I choke slam one of you.

[F]

No, you're not.

[A]

I'm the greatest in the world. All right, LeBron, make sure I get more than eight points.

[C]

No, you're not.

[A]

Hey, hey, homeboy. I see you on fire right now before the fourth quarter. Make sure Big Daddy get his keep cooking.

[F]

So y' all can give me another three years and I can come get some more money. Give me another 25.

[A]

To continuing to cook. Says that he gonna get more time. I don't look at it like that.

[F]

No, I say he. If they keep playing at this level.

[C]

I ain't gotta play that hard.

[F]

LeBron could get another two or three years.

[A]

If they keep playing at this level, he gonna get the Chris Paul waves in the middle of the night.

[C]

You crazy as hell.

[A]

Hey, this ain't Genie busting them no more, Big dog. Remember, they sold. This is some old nigga that don't know nothing.

[C]

No, he know. Let me you show he know, though. Whoever. Whoever.

[E]

He.

[C]

They know. You said it's somebody that don't know. That's LeBron James. They still know.

[A]

Yo, let's have that talk, cuz. We keep repeating people's names. That's CHRIS Paul. That's LeBron James. No matter who you are, what goes up must come down, right?

[C]

Of course.

[A]

And when you're on the downward. Everybody is not adhering to.

[F]

You was who you was.

[A]

Yeah, everybody ain't rocking like that.

[C]

That's true. For the most part. We talking about LeBron James. Just him saying, hey, this is my last season, dog.

[A]

This room is right. There's rumors right now not getting along right now. It's rumors right now that LeBron is contemplating this being his last season because he is still at odds with. I'm just telling you rumors.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[C]

So it could be my last season here. No, I got the rumblings it could be the last season over there. Yeah, I heard the rumblings I might not like them.

[A]

It don't look like they getting along.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you're just looking at it.

[F]

But.

[A]

But I'm minding my business. I don't have, I don't have insiders in this room.

[F]

See how JJ looked at him the other day when he was. He was getting blown by 20 and he was over there. Key can joking with the Phoenix is looking like, what the is you doing?

[A]

That looked funny last year when he.

[F]

Was doing that with Ant man. And then when we was losing in the playoffs, niggas was mad.

[A]

That looked funny. That shit. Where he going to say peace to everybody he know on the other team on the bench.

[C]

I don't like that shit, but I mean that.

[B]

I've accepted it as Super Friday.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Just old dinosaurs in that.

[A]

In that aspect. And the game I seen him do was Dallas don't walk to the other team and do your secret handshakes with them.

[F]

With you could do that when you winning, we not losing by 30. And you keep with them over there.

[C]

No, I don't want to see that at all. But again, that's just my old school way of thinking.

[B]

These guys like each other a lot more than I like best friends, team, team, you know, opposing team. I'm not used to that, but I respect that LeBron does that. And he still shows up for the game and still plays to the utmost. He's a legend. He deserves all the praise. This streak for me, in some ways is.

To me it's just as impressive almost as his NBA scoring, as his all time scoring record. I mean just terms of consistency night after night after night, really never having a night where you don't do that for. I mean, that's impressive, man. And I don't know if we give LeBron enough credit. I think we see so much great greatness around him because he's been here around. I think we're gonna need five years of distance from him to really appreciate how amazing and unparalleled LeBron James is as a basketball player.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

Yeah. Pete, speaking of big superstars, let's wrap this up so we can get Damona back in the game.

[E]

I'll be trying. No, you know, and I said something about the Chris Paul thing because that sounds pretty bad.

[B]

Well, Damona, what do you think of about Clay naming a boat after Meg?

[E]

I think it's lit. I think it's amazeballs. It's a boat.

[D]

Amazeball.

[E]

Like what is it about? It's not like a little. The little cheap boats with the little motor. It's a yacht, right?

[F]

It could be the Minnow. Somebody named something after you.

[E]

I don't want no raggedy ass boat name that.

[A]

Not the little T. Name a matchbook after you or some.

The fancy matchbook with the thing on the side.

[E]

Yeah, you better.

[C]

Little striker on the side of the box.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fancy one.

[E]

I think they rolling.

[C]

They going to Name A Delta 88 after Mona.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Did they show the boat?

[B]

I haven't seen the boat. I just know Clay Thompson named the is. None of this is moving too fast for y'. All.

[A]

Mark as that have.

Mark is such a.

[F]

Don't know.

[A]

Listen to Mark.

[B]

Yeah, I am.

[C]

You asking.

[F]

You asking the wrong.

[C]

Moving too fast for them. You are.

[E]

Why y' all moving fast.

[B]

And they calling me. That's the funny part.

[C]

These is Ben Johnson. Carl Lewis.

[B]

Who say Mike and Michael Johnson.

[A]

These. Is it moving too fast for you?

[B]

Yeah. Why.

I assume celebrity romances don't last. That's why I just assume celebrity romances don't last. It might not be fair, but I assume they don't.

[F]

Clay ain't really a celebrity though, huh?

[B]

Huh?

[F]

He famous in a celebrity?

[E]

No, just.

[A]

Yeah. Just walking back.

[F]

No.

He don't live. In my opinion. We don't see him outside like a celebrity is what I'm saying. Like he don't be at all different. Yeah. He's more private than.

[C]

He ain't private.

[B]

That's what makes me worry more about this.

[E]

Cuz he'll lose that. That with her.

[B]

I'm not. I just want relationships to move at a good pace.

[C]

But who sets that pace?

[A]

Why?

[B]

Who.

[A]

Who are you? Mind your damn business.

[B]

This whole story ain't our business. I'm just saying.

[A]

Don't make me defend.

[E]

In a month he's working.

[B]

Yeah. Tell me what you think.

[F]

Joe.

[A]

Don't make me. I love it.

[B]

Love wins.

[A]

I. I love it. I'm a fan of love. Love wins. He picked up from the airport the other day, car full of gifts, and I, I, I love it. I love the, the romantic panic seeing all of that.

[C]

A little bit of paint. Take all that away, too.

[D]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

That's true. I guess you can unnameable.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, a little bit of paint.

[A]

Oh, now that's a vax.

[B]

Yo, y', all, maybe that's how I need to think about it.

[A]

You know?

[C]

Another name before this.

[E]

Y' all don't move fast. Look, if I move fast, I'm pregnant.

[A]

Now we on playing P. Moving fast is fun.

[E]

I like, like it.

[A]

So let's get to that part since you want to talk.

[B]

Oh, I love moving fast. This is a bad idea.

[A]

It's a blast.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[B]

All right, so Joe, moving fast for you. Like, what's the. Have you moved somebody in fast?

[F]

Yo, you're not understanding what I'm telling you, bro.

[E]

I could have answered y'. All.

[B]

His friends.

[F]

I tried.

[C]

I tried to told you.

[B]

Okay, Ish. Paint the picture for me. So two weeks.

[A]

Well, he was to move into. Oh.

Oh.

[B]

Cory said they just never leave the first date.

[C]

I mean, two weeks.

[A]

I have moved people in fast.

[E]

Now, if you move. If you moving a. In two weeks, that ain't have a home to start.

[A]

Well, that's. I mean.

[B]

Look.

[E]

I mean, I don't know. I think it's exciting to move fast.

[A]

Moving in a stranger with fire.

I don't know what these is talking about.

[E]

Like, what you get to know the. Every week is exciting. Every week you learn something new. By week six, you find out her last name and her middle name.

[B]

See, that's crazy. So, Joe, you do the quick. The quick move in or whatever have done. Have done. I'm saying now you do. No, no.

[A]

I mean, no, you can't play like that.

[B]

Now I'm paying to pay. I'm saying. So you do the quick move in, and then things don't work out. What do you do? Do you do the quick exit, or do you have to stop when you.

[A]

Make my girl mad?

[B]

Good.

[A]

Don't move everybody else in and take your time. Oh, no, no.

[C]

Cause I'm doing that.

[B]

This is what he does.

[F]

Nigga have Sade lived in the tri state area.

[E]

She already in there.

[F]

What are you talking about?

[A]

Back in the day. Yeah. Anyway, what you say, Theon?

[E]

I like moving fast. Y' all never move fast before?

[F]

No, it's not my thing ever.

[C]

He do.

[E]

You've never moved fast.

[F]

It's not to make somebody my Girlfriend, officially.

[B]

That's not my.

[A]

He hang his hat always.

[F]

He just said the same thing, bro, everybody.

[B]

Not you.

[A]

I don't play with him like I play with you, boy. Pause that.

[B]

I'm talking to you.

[C]

I got it.

[F]

No, that's not my thing.

[E]

No, but this. This is what I'm saying, cuz. You said make him your girlfriend. Moving, fasting, the title thing. Before you know it, we just wrapped up in this.

Up, and we locked in.

[C]

That happened in one good weekend.

[F]

We not locked in in two weeks. That's good.

[C]

Two weeks.

[A]

Then you ain't never had.

I challenge you. Never had a good two weeks is long.

[E]

Yes. Listen.

[C]

Be a fire weekend like the week.

[A]

Don't let it be a three. Don't let it be a three day weekend.

[B]

Don't let it.

[A]

Don't let it be the Kingdom.

Labor Day weekend.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I said him, him and him.

[B]

I get how it's fun to do that, but that ain't never been my thing.

[A]

Like, I. Nah, I look a little because you was on some doctor shit. But in the real nigga streets, I.

[B]

Just take a while.

[A]

I get to know him in the real nigga streets. Hey, how much it takes for you to take off? Why don't you stay with me? Stay in the bed. Don't go to work.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Forever.

[E]

Rip to all the. How much it cost for you to take off?

[A]

How much it cost for you. For you to wipe your whole day clean? Cuz we so in love.

[E]

That's a.

[A]

We had so much fun at the diner, y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

Do y' all remember when the.

[E]

Oh, my God, pay to stay home is crazy? I remember that.

[A]

You ain't got to go to B today.

[B]

No.

[C]

Yo, how much? Yo, stay home.

[E]

That is the show.

Oh, my God. You gotta pay for what she would have made at the job.

[B]

I get the logic of it. I know Tripling.

[A]

Yeah, it wasn't a lot of money.

[E]

No money.

[A]

75.

[E]

Don't be making 400.

[F]

Stay home.

[E]

Well, I want. I want everybody to know.

[C]

Like them corporate chicks that don't exist no more.

[B]

Say you like just at home, drive thru, take care of itself. Corporate Perkins can run itself.

[D]

The clothes fold themselves.

[C]

Y' all crazy as hell.

[A]

And I'mma go to the kid room in the morning, let see what little Timmy is up. Timmy, you ate? What's up? Why did you keep calling me Timmy?

[B]

My.

[E]

My name is Ron.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

If you hungry, and I'm hungry, Mama will wake up, get to making some eggs or something up in There. Yeah. Hell yeah. Move fast. People out there listening right now. Just met each other last night. Hungover, still kissing. You ever heard this podcast they vibing.

[E]

It's a vibe.

[B]

Young lady, go home.

[C]

Young lady, go home.

[A]

And moving fast is more fun. 1. If y' all both famous now, you get to step into that world, see what the she doing.

[F]

I think that could be.

[E]

I don't know nothing about that.

[A]

That might be.

[F]

It seemed like it was fun.

[A]

So.

[B]

So if you've dated famous people, all of y' all dated.

[C]

I have.

[A]

Not everybody here hasn't dated famous people.

[C]

Everybody hasn't.

[A]

Everybody hasn't. Don't assume because I did it. The room did.

[E]

I don't have no goals for it either.

[B]

Yeah. Dating famous people.

[A]

I've dated Twitter famous people.

[F]

Hold on.

[A]

They better stop playing with him. That's true. That's true.

[C]

He right.

[B]

When you date somebody famous, there's also the.

The world gets in your business fast.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

I think that's slower and it's a commitment.

[B]

You know what I mean? No, no. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Snooze.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, it's one thing to date somebody for a weekend, and then you get over that. Oh, two weeks later, you move it right back. Back out. But you don't took pictures. You on you and all the blogs you on the. The tabloids back in the day. And now you gotta explain a week later why y' all not together. Like, that's too much. Too much.

[A]

Well, that's what helps. That's what helps keep y' all together. When you move fast, put out some content. Y' all gain an audience together. And now we got. We gotta make this work.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

We're gonna let our fans down now.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. You stuck in some because you. Because the world is watching.

[A]

Well, or the flip side of that.

[C]

Is, is it can help.

[A]

I don't even really know you, girl.

[B]

Get the out of here.

[A]

Like, you could.

[B]

You could get.

[A]

You could just get on whatever you want to get on.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

I need to know who is date.

[A]

Stay out the libraries.

[E]

I need to know what you need to know. I need to know who the is date that was famous.

[A]

Ask me right there. He right there playing with his sneakers.

[E]

He said he like a duke. I asked.

[A]

Talking to you.

[E]

He already did. He already said no. Fan him. No. He already said no.

[B]

He turned to Michael. I don't want to talk about it.

[A]

That old white lady from Toronto wasn't famous.

[E]

He knew that little lick pucker.

[A]

That little 70 year old white lady from Toronto wasn't famous.

[C]

Now y' all playing with my son.

[B]

Was she famous famous or like. Like an extra in the best man holiday?

[A]

She was the.

[F]

Actually she was the best man.

[B]

Stop.

[C]

Yo, you gotta be a plan. A plan?

[F]

I'm playing a plan.

[B]

Playing.

[C]

I'm playing this, yo.

[A]

No, I'm joking. Will you tell Mona off air to one person?

[C]

Never. No.

[E]

Damn.

[C]

No, he's not gonna do it.

[B]

I with you. That's what I'm talking about. That's why it won't move fast.

[C]

Because he's not gonna tell you.

[A]

But why not?

[E]

He ain't give it.

[C]

But to answer your question, she's famous famous.

[B]

Okay. And.

[A]

And dub the out of him.

Threw that to the streets.

[B]

Y' all still got close.

[A]

No, she don't speak to that.

[B]

Look at him.

[A]

Yo, Dougl hey, look. Hey. She threw that right back to wherever he was at. Go build that house, boy.

[B]

Oh, this.

[C]

Yo, what happened man?

[A]

Cuz I just remembered. I forgot at first I was being authentic, but once I remembered jokes. Once I remember jokes started flying.

[B]

So she was famous, y' all was. How long was y' all together?

[C]

She's still famous.

[B]

She st.

[F]

Conversation.

[B]

I think he's a magic chick.

[C]

No, I don't date famous chicks.

[A]

Okay, okay. Family chicks. It's you that don't date them.

[B]

Yeah, I don't date models. My.

[A]

I ain't no family sh.

[B]

I'm with you. I.

[C]

Be trying to get off.

[A]

I don't date. Let him get his off. Hey, that's what it is.

[B]

I don't. I don't take NBA contracts. Same. You know what I mean? It's not my thing.

[C]

I don't hit the lotto.

[A]

Right, the lotto?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, what I was saying, I don't have any on under my gotcha roster.

[A]

Got you.

[C]

That's them guys.

[E]

I have no interest in dating anybody famous. Famous people are.

[B]

I think that's true. But see I. I think that's. They also stop you from doing your y' all thing which is moving fast. I think too many eyeballs in your relationship it up.

[A]

That's.

[E]

Even if I dated somebody famous, I would never do it publicly. You know what I mean?

[F]

You ain't in control of that.

[E]

I ain't trying to make no tik tok. Yes, I am in control of it.

[B]

I think you would do if you was in love together for a year or two.

[E]

I definitely famous. Anybody following me around I still steal from out of Walmart sometimes.

[F]

Okay, but they might be following the around.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. I'm not doing it. I'm not with no where TMZ going to jump out the butchers. Oh, is this the new baby mom? No, like, I. I don't have any interest in it because of that. Like, that's.

[C]

And stop stealing from Walmart. They got the new camera in there now.

[E]

That's Target. I shut up.

[C]

Walmart got it, too now. I'm telling you something. I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to hold you down.

[E]

Me and Joe bonded over stealing stories recently.

[F]

Y' all ain't bond over no Walmart stories.

[A]

I tell you.

[C]

And what they do is I don't.

[A]

Know where me and Jo, we steal.

[C]

No, no, no. Mona, they let you run it up to a.

[E]

That's Target. Ice, please.

[C]

Walmart too.

[A]

All right. Yo, when last time y' all stole something?

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

I'm not talking about the ppp.

I mean, for real, for real, for real. Like, not stealing from the government.

[B]

Holy.

[E]

I stone steal. I need know it not pack of bubble gum. You would never.

[C]

Nope, never.

[E]

I. You the type of one of them kids walk out with lollipop. You walk them back in and pay for it.

[C]

No, I don't. I say it's my business.

[A]

That's still stealing nothing but his baby's heart.

[E]

I'm talking about your baby walk out with the lollipop with you. You notice it in my baby.

[C]

Know better.

[E]

Oh, please. Come on, dog.

[C]

Y' all be killing raising them up right. Sorry.

[E]

No, no, you. You raising your kids right is not indicative of them taking some of these.

[A]

How did we get to Ice raised up all right? Because you Big bill, you. You want to keep his baby baby's heart. Yeah.

[B]

Now let's talk.

[A]

I never want to get d. Let's talk about it. Yeah. So, Apple.

Speaking of Ice, but if you could date a famous girl, like, if that wasn't your rule, like, who would you pick?

[F]

That is not Ice's rule.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[F]

You just said that Ice is lying.

[C]

Yo, what are we doing?

[F]

Ice was single and wanted one of.

[A]

Them disabled famous chicks.

[F]

No, I don't know.

[C]

I don't know what he's talking about.

[A]

Who would have.

[F]

I don't know if Ice was single.

[E]

Oh, I do remember y saying date, date, or I gotta two different comments.

[F]

That's two different conversations. But Ice is open to both.

[C]

If he was single.

[F]

I think every in this room the.

[A]

Right girl and you in a room full of real. When we say date, we pop.

[C]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[A]

You definitely off the. Off the rip.

[C]

The pop has been happened before dating. Yeah. Popping is before.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But way, way before me.

[F]

Same night, same fight.

[E]

I don't. I don't know nothing.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Nah, I don't know.

[C]

Might not make it to date too.

[A]

After work today, get with me. I'm going to tell you about some of the chicks they dated.

[E]

Please, cuz I need to know.

[A]

I'm curious cuz I know you want to know. And guess who know. Guess who know.

[D]

Look at me.

[A]

I know the truth.

[E]

We can start with the famous. I want to know who that is.

[A]

Oh, that's gonna be quick.

That's gonna be fast. It wasn't like is she in music? I'm not telling you nothing. That's my man. So I ain't gonna give it away on air but app off air. I'm gonna tell you all his business.

[E]

All right.

[C]

That'S his.

[A]

But I gotta with you to tell tell ish business like when them see me in the street and want to kick it with me about. About ish. That's my man. I don't get out my face but if I know you and love you. Oh, please kiki it up.

This is me. All right. I do have. Oh, oops. I do have. Pharrell's clip Pharrell responds to the recent controversy surrounding his political comments while accepting the 2025 FNA shoe of the year award.

[C]

Let's hear it.

[A]

Like to hear it here.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Sir. The dude sound like this.

[F]

Since most people don't like to read or do research.

[A]

This is a smug, snarky sound like this.

[F]

I'm from Virginia sound like this.

[A]

You don't know what I know.

[F]

You ain't seen what I saw.

[A]

No, you ain't been wider.

[C]

The fetty social we got it ice.

[F]

As a child, nobody's been evicted more times than me.

[B]

Lights turned off, water turned off and at times had to pump the water.

[A]

And I didn't have a name brand.

[C]

Sneaker until I was 16 when I could afford them for my first paycheck from McDonald's.

[A]

Brother. It's a long clip too. Let me fast forward this.

[E]

Like why?

[A]

Don't be fooled by my bourgeois taste and heart. I'm proletariat. In fact, I'm lumping proletariat.

[E]

Oh my God.

[B]

Sound like this.

[A]

But I could never walk in the.

[E]

Shoes of my parents.

[A]

Parents, parents, parents, etc.

[B]

All they had to Endure while staying on their feet.

[A]

Or my ancestors who arrived as captives, enslaved, who had no shoes yet had to stay on their feet as they landed on the shores of Virginia.

As black and brown people on this.

[B]

Earth, we have to stay on our feet.

[F]

We have never had a choice.

[B]

Sound bite this.

[A]

We've made a good need for someone.

[E]

To walk in our shoes.

[A]

That's why.

[C]

Sound bite this.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, big dog. A philanthropic effort to support being the hook to death. I'm done.

[E]

Is that a hook in his speech? Is that. He's so corny.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And I don't know why you think that just because you basically say saying you grew up in the mud, you grew up in the trenches, that that takes away that you said something really insensitive and ignorant. It doesn't. If anything, it makes it worse because you had that experience. You've lived that experience. Weirdo. I don't trust with little heads. You see my head ice and forehead.

[A]

Oh, sorry. I just didn't know all that, Joe.

[E]

Never seen my forehead till recently, and it's been a little shocking.

[A]

I never leave a bob.

[E]

I always get my frontal ice down further on my head to chop this motherfucker down. And every time I've ever came here, I've had frontals.

[C]

Right.

[E]

You know what I mean? Walk in with the forehead.

[F]

I was just, oh, what the fuck?

[E]

Like, what the fuck? You never seen a big forehead, nigga?

[B]

That speech was bizarre to me.

[D]

It was. It was.

[B]

I'm not sure who the audience is for that or what the context is for it, but I don't think it accomplished what he thought it was going to accomplish. Accomplish?

[A]

He didn't eat down like he thought he did.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Sound bite this.

[B]

I'm one of you.

[A]

Yeah. You're not broke asses.

[B]

Right, Right. It's weird. I'm the proletariat. No, you're not. You're literally the 1%.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, what is he talking about? Don't let the art fool you and.

[A]

Just get a shoe of the year award and go like, we had a shoe awards.

[E]

Oh, that's what it was.

[A]

We had the shoe awards. If there one place I don't want to hear about a ancestors is at the shoe awards, yo. Just go ahead.

Thank the clips. Thank Louie. But all of this, my ancestors, I'm from Virginia, they were standing on business without shoes. And we got here on the ship and over here. I don't demand. Pharrell's a doof to me. I ain't gonna lie Great producer. He is great producer, but he one of them.

[E]

You could tell he's angered by the reaction, though. He doesn't have any feeling or feeling bad for. He's just pissed that people talk, you know, they got mad about you.

[C]

I'm just saying if I'm. If I'm him. I made those comments like you said. I'm angry at the response that I've. If. I'm just saying, if I'm Pharrell and I feel like this has been taken out of context or something.

My next chance to speak where I know it's going to be cameras and I'm probably going to do something like that.

[B]

Like I'm telling you, you know what you would do, though? You would actually address that thing that you thought people got wrong.

[A]

Word.

[C]

Well, that's what. And his version of doing it is the whole sound bite. This, like saying that y' all don't read and you just taking sound bites and going off of that and having a whole discourse.

[B]

I'm with you. It's just a lot of straw men to me. Like, no one was saying Pharrell's statements were fucked up because he wasn't born poor or because he grew up with a silver spoon, you know, it wasn't that.

[D]

It was.

[B]

Yo, you said this shit. It's insensitive, it's inconsiderate, and it's wrong. The DEI stuff and all that stuff, it's out of touch. It's all those things. And so even if everything you said is true in that speech, which I. I don't doubt it was. Don't change.

[C]

It don't apply.

[B]

It don't change. Ain't got to do what we was talking about.

[C]

I get what you saying.

[D]

I get what you saying.

[B]

That's all for me.

[E]

Sound bite this.

[B]

I see Meek's message to old heads on the. On the board. And I always love when Meek speaks out. I heard him speaking out about violence in the neighborhoods and stuff like that. So I was. I'm always happy when Meek speaks up, cuz it's.

[E]

Why are you always happy when Meek speak up? I am not cringe. He always embarrassing us.

[A]

All right. Meek Mill says.

[F]

These.

[A]

These holding. Holding info on the next generation and snatching all opportunities and using money to control emotion. I'm going to all white men in Arabs about business and getting play. No black men quote unquote. That's no. No black men quote unquote. That's older than me. I'll never get it. But I'm a change that we can't look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us. It feels like. But if a white man asked them to do it, they going twerk for them. He's the wrong person to say that. I will never get this part. I don't care if I die in the streets. I ain't being around that devil Mental warfare for money. I don't want none of these people saying they love me or saying my brother anymore. Just straight up. Just straight up head up business. The business biggest manipulation tactic in business. End quote.

[B]

What do you think, Joe?

[A]

I really enjoy Meek tweeting too because I love it. It's always compelling and interesting and I mean as the guy that lost the bet and had to do the Bunny bunny rap. The bunny hop.

Yeah, that was just an interesting comp that he drew out. I wouldn't have said that but I think Meek is a old head.

[F]

He is.

[A]

How old is Meek?

[F]

He's not.

[D]

He's not the youngest.

[B]

Early forties.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo dog, anybody in rap with 10 years in you a old head.

[C]

Meek is 38.

[A]

30 younger you old head.

[F]

But I don't know if he's talking about it from a level of age more than business and wisdom to a bunch of people.

[D]

Meek is old head with the exception of the.

[F]

But I'm saying the people above him him that he might get information like the whole generation. He's talking about another generation above him. He's saying I would give the information and filter it down to the that's younger than me. The people above him that have amassed more than me. They not sharing the information. I wonder, let me ask.

[C]

Did him and whole fall out or something. Are we missing something? Because this is what it looked like between this the. The rants he had before about I'm trying to put the project together. I'm trying to come up with this money. I'm trying to get what he said for 5 million in investment money. When you was running around with HOV and Michael Rubin and all the billionaire crew. I don't really see you with them like that no more. And now this statement right here. Michael Rubin. Okay, well I don't see you with HOV anymore. And this statement right here sounds like directly talking to hov HOV and Rick Ross.

[E]

I was thinking Rick Ross. I'm curious.

[B]

That was the reason I just seen.

[C]

A picture with him.

[A]

He just posted a bunch of pictures with him and Rick Ross which is also true.

[C]

Trying to say hey, I'm not talking about Rick Ross.

[B]

The rumors was that it was hov. I don't know if it was true or not, but that's what people. To your point, that's what people were saying.

[E]

I'm curious to what young coming up that are younger than him have to say about him and did he usher anybody in and did he help anybody?

[F]

He might have.

[E]

I'm curious but I've heard some. But I'm curious what the masses would say. I feel like it's always like that. You look up and it's like, oh, I ain't getting no support or I ain't getting whatever. But he's at the age where it's looking up at him too.

[C]

But the thing is looking up to.

[E]

Him and trying tried to reach out and do and meet.

[C]

Meek has worked with lesser known younger artists, a lot of them especially artists that rep the trenches and all. He has definitely done that. Meek might not have the. Like he don't have a label he don't have. He might not have the ability to really usher somebody else in like he would like to do or like they would even think. You know, Meek just has his name right now.

[A]

You get what I'm saying? I just don't like him speaking for not just him, this is anybody. I don't like people speaking from only their experiences and then turning around saying all black OGs are not helping. They're not talking, they're not funneling down the information that make me Wonder who your OGs are. Who are your OGs?

[B]

That's part of why I was asking what you thought about it because I was wondering what your experience was coming through the business. Oh, I. I don't.

[A]

Oh, coming through the business is different. Coming through the business is dog eat dog trying to get a record deal in the 90s. You know, I used to wonder why you would see Chris Lighty or whatever exec. Whatever exec. And you could be nice as hell and not get a call back. But ain't trying to help people that's nicer than them or that that was the thing in the 90s. I don't know if that's so much the case today. As I got older, as I went through shit, I got plenty of jewels from people older than me. A lot of.

[C]

A lot of the.

[A]

The KRS one Don't stop teaching Black thought. Don't stop teaching Royce don't stop teaching. There's names I can name of people who will willingly give you the information free of charge. I don't know what circles he's in.

[C]

But and to some people's point, like, because I know that was a, that was a common thing where a lot of people was having a problem with Master P about that, where P was trying to help some of these younger artists, like, yo, let me look at your paperwork. Let me see this, let me see that. And then he got burnt a couple times and then went out and said, y', all, I'm not doing this shit for free no more. I'm not trying to help y'. All. Yeah, Master P said that. And then it was another thing where it's like, I believe it was, I think it was Kodak. Yo, let me, let me try to help you out, make sure you in a proper situation and you waste my time. So now it's like, yo, I'm charging for this information, Information. I guess it's not just help you.

[D]

For the love for free, but don't take the information. Some people, they don't hear what they.

[C]

Want to hear and they don't want information.

[D]

They want a magic bullet.

[C]

They want you to hold your hands and walk them through the steps to get them to the next level.

[E]

People say they want information, but they really want you to move something for them. Get it done. Move a mountain. It's like, that's not what you asked for. That's how you should be direct because you never know. You know what I mean? But for the most part, I think it's like a dog eat dog thing. I think age don't matter. And that's. And I'm talking about in general, just in this country, rich keep their money from keeping other people away from getting it, period. That's just what goes on. Box you out, blows you out. I don't think that that changes whether it's black, white, whatever. It's the American away, it's capitalism.

[B]

That's the part I didn't like about what Meek said because I agree with him that it's you and him that is dog eat dog. And I do think there's a lot of people that hoard information or will exploit you and pretend use the brother card as a way to exploit like, you know, I get that. But it's not like, where's this history of like white men being that helpful in helping black people get rich. Arabs, like, I think all race, I think like you said, as a capitalist, like I think everybody in the record business who's an exec or powerful, they got powerful by hoarding power.

[A]

That's what you do.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

I don't think it's A. I actually don't think that's a race thing. I think it's just. That's the way the business works.

[E]

And them niggas come from the music industry, got in the podcast, podcasting, did the same.

[B]

That's what's going on.

[E]

That's what do. And it's the thing. It's like you have a cry about. You can figure it the out. I rather figure it out. You're not gonna see me on a platform because anybody helped me.

[B]

Y', all.

[E]

I don't need no help.

[B]

But I didn't hear me bitching about it. What I heard him. What I heard him say was, I'm gonna do something different. And that's the part I appreciated about what he said.

[A]

No, he was bitching, though. Anytime you get on a platform and start the black men don't you bitching.

[E]

And then we talking about us. I ain't with that.

[C]

I don't see.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I don't even like, like that part. Like, I don't like that part because it was a black man, Ross, who put him on. Put you in front of the rest of us.

[E]

Yeah. And not even that before the black man. I remember distinctly because Meek Mills was everything in certain years. TI Got on that mixtape and everything changed. It wouldn't even be. And because T, I got indicted, so he couldn't sign him, and that's how he ended up with Rick. But it was huge. All the rap, all them DVD read dollars, all them people. That's what set Meek apart. When TI Got on that mixtape and that shit went crazy. And we ain't. He been unlocal ever since. You know what I mean? So for that guy to say it.

[C]

It'S like you the N that's gonna say it.

[E]

Like, get the on with that.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't like that.

[B]

But I think there's a difference between the music.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

And the business piece.

[F]

I think we keep taking this back to music. And I don't necessarily know he's referring to music. He might not be referring to music. He might be referring to other levels of business, which.

[E]

But music is a business, y'.

[C]

All.

[E]

What are we talking about?

[B]

No, I think what he's saying is, yo, you'll put me on music because you can get put on and still get exploited.

[F]

Yeah. That don't. Like mad niggas have been introduced to the world. We dissing Puff. Puff can say, yo, I put all these people on, but all of these niggas are still broke at the end of the day, they all still bitching about not receiving what they were supposed to receive or what they contractually signed up to get. So Puff could say, y' all put you on. But if you. The dude ride whatever. He's saying I ain't get no money.

[A]

He's saying more, too.

[B]

But, yeah, I'm just.

[F]

Of course, I'm just giving you an example. So, yeah, I could put you on.

[C]

On.

[F]

But I don't even necessarily think he's talking about the music business. I think that from what I've heard.

[A]

What he says, and I'll just repeat this. We can't look up to the black older artists because they be damn near hating on us. It feel like that to me. Sound like he think that he's of a younger age and older artist who he's talking to.

[C]

Yeah, he is of a younger age.

[A]

Yo, let me tell you something. Bun B ain't gonna hate on nobody. No. That's a fact.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Not gonna give you all the information in the world.

[B]

I can.

[A]

I can name a list of OGs who. They'll talk to you. I can't speak. I can't speak for Meek's experience.

[B]

But. But.

[A]

But again, framing this like this is.

[C]

Because, again, yo, Meek got records where he's saying, is it because I got the billionaire for Marcy, who got my back?

[B]

Excuse me.

[C]

Stuff like that. I think this is a whole beef he has. Whereas hov, you're here, you got this. I'm trying to get to that level, and I expect you to bring me to that level.

[E]

Why?

[D]

Like, that's a big expectation.

[C]

Because we brothers.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, because we brothers.

[E]

Our brotherhood.

[C]

But that's why he's saying, don't stop hiding it behind the brother.

[E]

Shit, just because you my sister don't mean I got to help you and get on my. Like, that's crazy.

[C]

But if a white man asks them.

[A]

To do it, they going to work for them, bro.

[F]

He. He not all the way wrong.

[E]

He might have a point with those.

[F]

He's not all the way wrong. So I can stand on the opposite side of y'. All. And again, I don't know nothing about the music business, but in business itself, there are times where somebody might have some information that can help you ascend and they not give it to you, and they'll give it to a stranger. That happens, bro. He's not totally way off. Again, I'm not familiar with the music business, but in business, a nigga will give a strange stranger way more information than they might Give somebody that they've known forever because you're not necessarily competing with some stranger. That stranger's going over there, the right here. That's at an 8 and you at a 20. I gotta see him every day. So now I might give him some information and he could take that eight and turn it to a 25 and I'm still stuck at a 20. That happens in business, yo.

[C]

He's not completely able to oppose that too.

[D]

There also may be someone that you have given information for 20 years and they don't do anything with the information. They keep asking for information. It's like, how much more can I give you?

[F]

Both things can be true.

[D]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Both things can be true.

[A]

Yeah. But one thing I don't have a whole lot of time for in business is crying if somebody ain't giving you the information. And we still in business. All right, what's your next move?

[F]

Yeah, but you still got to figure it out. But to some people's point, why would I have to figure it out? If my man that's calling me, his brother got a PhD in this particular topic, I shouldn't have to figure it out on my own. Because you went through it.

[E]

I agree with that.

[F]

So don't say you love me. Don't say we pro black and we all these other things. If you see that you could solve this problem for me or help me solve this problem and you leave me to figure it out.

[A]

But hold up for a minute, Mona. But he's the last person that can say. He's the last person that can say that. As I'm just sitting here thinking part of ISIS earlier, Point Meek has been in all of the rooms that none of y' all can get in.

[C]

True.

[A]

He's been around all of the brainiacs. He's been around the best lawyers, the best accountants.

[F]

He's been around best of the best.

[A]

So for him to be the guy to come and say people are gatekeeping the information, it's like, dog, you can't say that your whole. Your whole trajectory is because somebody gave you.

[E]

We talking about. Was we talking. We talking about. About the same dude that because Meek got support in the city, he. Before he was first coming out, he caught that stupid ass case because Pennsylvania locked you up and throw you away the key for nothing. But his bell was real high. He was facing a lot of time. He. The word on street then was he got support by somebody big in the city and they came through and paid the bell and da, da, da. Then again, he get booked with the dirt bike shit, all the people. You know what I mean? It's like it's been a lot of times where he's gotten support from big and small and everybody else. So I don't want to hear you, Splinter.

[A]

We watch all of hip hop come together. Stand up, go to Philly City hall, march like. You can't say that is all.

[E]

Nah, not the nigga that landed on the helicopter first day out of jail.

[B]

On top of the. I mean, I think it's different though. Again, to your point, I still think that that all happened. He could still be saying, but when you get into this business world, it's different.

[A]

Was he not in the business world?

[E]

It's the same shit.

[B]

I think you're saying the people who in the business world who help him are of white men and that the black men are gatekeeping the business side of it. I'm not saying it's true.

[A]

I would challenge him if that's, if that's what I thought.

[E]

That black men are keeping white people. Don't. You're just misinformed. You ain't been around enough white people in the business, period. If he's saying that's because he ain't been around enough white people or if.

[B]

Michael Rubin and Robert.

[F]

That's his experience.

[E]

It's not.

[C]

He feel like they're giving them more.

[F]

Guns than a black person.

[B]

That's what he said.

[E]

That's what we get. Keep it from Mona.

[A]

Get the Mona girl. There you go.

[E]

This up, man.

[C]

I got you.

[E]

I'm not productive.

[C]

The side pieces should be done ready.

[E]

When I get it.

[F]

Turn it into one radio.

[A]

You know about.

[E]

So who looser than me, but you.

[A]

Know about the side pieces better than me.

[C]

Oh, there we go.

[E]

You sure?

[A]

There we go.

Oh, you were saying?

[B]

I don't know.

[E]

Yeah, well.

[F]

Oh, you said that the gatekeeping came from.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Me personally, I mean, I mean, that's. That I. Yes. Black people got gatekeeping from white people.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[E]

That's a fact.

[B]

Yeah. And again, I think we put. Sometimes we do put more criticism on each other. On each other. A white man might give you one piece of information and it's like, oh, they did everything for me.

[E]

Exactly.

[B]

You know, and to your point, you could have gotten 10 years of information from a black person, and one time they say, no, it becomes black people. Don't fuck with me. So I don't know what's true in Meek's case, but I, I, I just, I'm, I'd like to Know more about what he was talking about. Because the problem with the tweets is that they're so vague.

[F]

Yeah, they're cryptic.

[B]

Yeah, they're cryptic. That's a better word. I don't even know exactly what he. Because.

[C]

Because I'm saying it still sounds like.

[B]

Hov to me, bro.

[C]

If he put.

[F]

Let's.

[C]

He put them tweets out, and then everybody's saying, okay, he's talking to hov or Ross. And then I turn around and put up a bunch of pictures with me and Ross.

[E]

But what is he thinking?

[C]

I'm telling y' all something.

[E]

What's. What's going. What is he going to get out the trees?

[A]

Never heard that. It was a Meek and Hov beef.

[B]

Oh, I. I didn't hear it. But I mean, so after tracking it from.

[C]

Oh, go ahead.

[B]

Oh, I feel impregnation. That was the first. That was the first rumor of it, that there was a tension there. That's why in the whole. In. In the verse, when Hov was like, you know, I mean, me and Meek, I freed that from a whole bid. He was responding to the rumor that they had a beef.

[F]

I remember that.

[C]

Remember that?

[B]

But that response doesn't mean that they actually don't have a beef. It just means. It could mean we shouldn't have a beef.

[F]

It means you might be beefing with me.

[C]

I'm never. Yeah, we're not even on the same.

[B]

Level because I freed you from a whole. I'm just saying. So you could read that a lot of ways. Yeah, but it didn't clear the air.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then. Since then, there's been less.

[A]

I pulled every string in the world to free you, then I agree.

[E]

You can't say, bro, you're free.

[B]

I feel the same way.

[C]

I don't owe you nothing.

[E]

Please.

[B]

I feel the same way, but I.

[E]

Don'T know how Pennsylvania sitting people.

[B]

And so. But since then, there's been this undercurrent that there was some tension between. I don't know if it's true. I not. But that's definitely what people are saying. And it's definitely not stopped.

[C]

He ain't helping it with this.

[B]

And these tweets don't re. These tweets reinforce that to me.

[A]

Exactly.

[F]

I agree.

[E]

And if you wanted. If that's the relationship that he wants back or he wants to mend. That's not with a. Like that. I don't.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie. Bring back the late 90s and the 2000s, where if we had a problem with HO. We told you what the problem was these now if they'll never say whatever. The real beef is 1999.

[B]

Jay Z. I'm saying, why?

[E]

Because he's so powerful.

[B]

Yeah. I'm saying hope was to him. He's like a mob boss to them. You 25. You ain't saying about HOV you were battling.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He was a mob. Mob boss.

[B]

Yes. But he was your level.

[A]

But he was his levels to peers.

[B]

Yes. For sure. He.

[A]

What we shouldn't have been saying.

Mr.

[F]

G. He wasn't peers then. But people might have thought that's what I'm saying.

[C]

Now it's clear now.

[F]

The separation is apparent and very clear. The air up there is different.

[A]

And you can't say none. If you want to perform at the.

[B]

Super bowl, if you want to perform at Joe's Pub, you can't say nothing. That's how they feel like he can erase everything.

[A]

Wow. That silence. Knees.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Here's the thing about it. It's a thing about silence.

[C]

I thought he'd just said the sneeze. This actually sneezed.

[A]

Audience. His just sneezed. And it was. Y' all didn't hear a thing. A beautiful ass.

[B]

It was the prettiest sneeze ever.

[A]

Clean butthole.

[C]

It's a good light skin.

[A]

Clean ass. Butthole, Ass sneeze.

[C]

Wait, wait.

[E]

What? Everything he do is beautiful.

[A]

Meek, good luck, I guess something. I guess. Until the. Until. Until the next tweet. I'm done. Until the I'm done. Till the next tweet.

[B]

Tweet.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I like. It's probably already out now.

[C]

I like three out of the four songs off the four pack. So I'm cool.

[E]

The music there. But I got some music off of Twitter, bro.

[C]

I got some music. I don't give a.

[E]

Got off of social media.

[C]

I don't care. I am a fan of Meek Mill, the rapper.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So as long as I'm getting raps, I'm cool. You can do all that other. You got it.

[A]

I'm just thinking about all of the times that Meek is going to the Internet with something, and the one that keep coming to mind is when he was mad about Roddy Ricch.

And what happened with Roddy Ricch. I can assure him that that wasn't a black person that did that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's a goal.

[A]

I could promise him that wasn't a black person that did that. And if the business would have been right in his eyes, there wouldn't be no 4 pack. I go back to that. All the time if niggas got they just do and what they accomplished and you music then the beefs would even be different.

[D]

Oh, for sure.

[C]

Yeah. Absolutely.

[F]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah. So.

[C]

Because that's where a lot of his started from. He learned what.

That was his first album. He learned what he made and then he knew what he got. And then that's when he started like, hold up, wait, wait. I made how much and sold what where? That's when he remember he started asking about South Africa numbers and all. He started. Now I'm looking at global number. This is all shit you're not thinking about before.

[D]

True.

[C]

He started to get more information and then you realize, wait, how much did I make? Oh, no, something's wrong here. No. And has been on that ever since.

[A]

And you posting pictures with Ross. I can assure you Ross has more information than a lot of people in the music business.

[B]

For sure. Absolutely.

[A]

I can assure you, you right next to the person that we can speak to. Speak to them for sure.

[B]

That's why it feels like one of them. When you say niggas are people, you really, really mean person like this feels like it's targeted at a person. Whoever it is. I'm not saying it's ho.

[A]

I would respect it more if he highlighted the person or people and didn't say black OGs. That's my only issue with what he's saying. Black. Black OGs are not doing XYZ. I can't even say how many times.

[C]

I think Meek would have went and.

[A]

Hung around the black OGs that I think are just freely giving out information. You over there with the cool kid is you over there with everybody on the French pop that record. It's like where you expect to get your information from? I'm off. Right? Yeah. I don't know. Me. I don't know. I don't know. I support you. I support you in all you're doing. Because I love the independence thing. I love anybody that's willing to grind it out. And when you willing to do the independence thing not to be the broken record again. It's gonna be Roblox. It's gonna be Roblox. And people ain't just gonna offer to help you. You get where you going. Independent means you get the lion's share. Unless you're gonna start paying people. What do you want me to do? Yeah, yeah.

[D]

What else?

[C]

What else, what else?

[A]

What else?

[C]

And your, you know, you be doing a like fix this business type of little segment. Roddy Rich.

Is the name I thought.

[A]

About okay, who was supposed to drop, right? He was supposed to drop, then magically disappeared.

[C]

No, no. See, people. People reported that first off, this is this. This is either the fifth or sixth date date just in 2025 that this has happened with. I don't know why people are just saying this now. This has been happening since February where he had a date and it has to do the pre save and then it disappears. That date approaches, it disappears, It'll pop back up. April, July, October, and now decide December. So I'm not really talking about the date stick. I knew that album wasn't coming out. Me and some. Me and Low Key had a whole conversation about it on Twitter, like, that album's not dropping. But how can we fix Roddy Ricch?

[B]

And just for the record, it's worse now because it's not just that. The album. The Navy album. Yeah, the Navy album. It's not just that. It's not that it's pushed back. It's. It's been completely deleted off Apple Music.

[D]

Oh, really?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So there's no even. There's not even a pre page anymore. Oh, wow.

[D]

So it's difficult to say because What. What's the cause? Yeah, what's the cause? Sample clear as he not happy. Is he recutting shit? Is he, you know, not paying producers, the label. Not paying producers, the label holding it back.

[A]

As somebody that don't know a thing about any of it since all Julie and Craig leaving Atlantic. What artists at Atlantic?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I forgot. He's over there.

[A]

He's in the rock rut.

[D]

Yeah, he's in that.

[A]

He's in the mix.

[C]

I think it's more than that, man. I think with him in particular.

[F]

He.

[C]

Dropped the Please Don't Excuse Me For Being Antisocial album. Had the box, which is a diamond record, I believe at this point. I think that album was like five times platinum or something.

Then the next album, which was Live Life Fast or something, wasn't received well.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And I think with him, I think they're scared of that or whether it be him, the label, somebody. We can't have another one of those.

And I think there's no confidence yet in to drop. He dropped a single, Survivor's Remorse, which is okay, I like the single. He dropped something else. He dropped. But I think there's a disconnect just in confidence in the music, which is.

[A]

Still an Atlantic thing.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz Roddy Rich came up here. Yeah. Didn't strike me as somebody that didn't have confidence. He seemed like one of the more confident artists in the universe.

[F]

And again, you would be with the.

[A]

Success that if all those things is true and. And are true and what he makes from the show, I'm just saying, I don't know him. He didn't seem like he lacked confidence.

[C]

But even that, what he makes from the show, I thought about that. You know, festival runs have been going around. I haven't seen his name at the top three lines in a minute.

[D]

Cause he has.

[A]

Well, he needs to come out.

[D]

Yeah, he has to have a record out.

[C]

Like, I talked to Roddy Ricch at the. When we went to the Kendrick show.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

He was there and we had a quick little conversation and he still seemed his confident self. Like, he was like, yo, I'm coming. I got this, I got this, I got this. And nothing.

[A]

I think that some of the people over there at Atlantic, and I don't know none of y' all new, I'm from a time before y', all, but it seems like there are some advanced analytics people.

[D]

Yeah, it's possible over there.

[A]

We're not going off the post of things and who's cool and who's dope. We going off of what we see on this paper. And they may not have seen enough to convince them that Roddy Rich needs an album in the marketplace right now.

It's a weird era again, I'm shooting off the cup.

[D]

Yeah, it's a weird era too now where we're seeing, especially with the Wale project that we've discussed a million times. But I think that's kind of the blueprint for most of these labels where they're not putting no money up front into the shit. So.

[C]

Yeah, but we at least like. Like with the Wale project, which is what a lot, a lot of labels are doing now is post drop marketing, where we drop it.

[D]

Sure, but.

[C]

But I'm saying, well, right. We don't even have an album.

[D]

Put the album out. That's what I'm saying. Like, why would the label have to have confidence if their current business model seems to be. Let's put it out, see what happens, and then react from there.

[A]

I haven't seen anything that says that Atlantic is down with that.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

Ah, I tell you what, with when he first came out, those first. Was it two? What? The Box was the second one and then the first. How. How many was before the box? The Box is second and the first one is what The Box.

[C]

The Box was his single single. That was the one.

[E]

No, the Al. The album was called the Box 2 though, right?

[B]

No.

[E]

What was the album called it? The Box.

[C]

Please excuse me for being antisocial.

[E]

Yeah, all that was so good. I just never foreseen to be here this fast. Like because it's been a while where it's like what the is going on? Because he was like. Like it was no skips for me. I with him from the door first. I used to think that he was like depressed like because you know, when Nipsey died I thought they. I know they was real attached and that was a mentor of his and I thought that could affect him. But like at this point it's like what the is going on.

[C]

And he spoke to Dylan with some of the same things that. That Bryson took. Killer talked about like my first project being so successful that it made me depressed.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like he spoke to a little bit of that happening as well. So it could be a combination of things.

[E]

But yeah, he came out with the second one. The second one was good too though.

[C]

That's what I wasn't received the same which.

[A]

The second.

[C]

The second album was nowhere near wasn't received.

[D]

That's one of the downsides of having a hit record is people are gonna look for the hit record. But I think that he should just keep on keeping on because he's dope.

[C]

He's very dope, right?

[A]

Is very dope.

[C]

I done looking forward every time a date come up like all right, finally we going to get it this time.

[A]

That's what I'm like. I don't care about the gossip cuz I'm going to get this album regardless. Cuz I believe in his song making. That's it. If he don't get no promo, I'm going to go hear what's going on.

[C]

That's. That's where I am with it.

[E]

And he got light eyes.

[A]

But I don't think. I think. Are you a eye person?

[E]

I do. My mother in law have light eyes stuff for me. I used to be very angry about it.

[F]

The color contacts like where I work.

[E]

Why the would he need color contacts?

[A]

Cuz the hazel just didn't always get it done for him. Some just.

[E]

I mean they go from hazel to green sometimes.

[A]

Laughed in his face. Get out of here. Pretty boy sucker.

[E]

When he goes on tropical islands, they go a little blue. This is beautiful.

[A]

Anyway, without talking to anybody I just. I could. I could imagine people on Atlantic try to do. Trying to do little Uzi vert.

[D]

I can see it. I can see it.

[A]

We out of here. Can't get music done. There's a Bunch of new over here. This OG son is over here running around like, yeah, get me the. Out of town.

[C]

Yeah, get me out of here.

[A]

Atlantic people. If I'm wrong, call somebody phone and know me. Not mine, but somebody.

[C]

Somebody else. Pass the message on that way.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. All right. What else matters? What else matters?

[B]

New music.

[A]

What we can do.

[B]

New.

[A]

Don't. Whatever. Whatever that 2C is up there. Oh, that's actually good. Yeah, that's actually good.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

Okay. I gotta relax. See why it's important to read stuff. New music.

[B]

Oh, man. I think the headline for me was. Was Gangsta Grills was the game.

[C]

Yes, for sure.

[B]

Finally.

[C]

Finally, we got a new game project Game. DJ Drama. Mike and Keys. Was it.

[B]

Every movie needs a trailer.

[C]

Yes, every movie needs a trailer.

I got through because it was sent way too late. I got through about 11 songs, and I am heavily with this. It is old school, like, beats.

[D]

I love this whole album. I listen to the whole thing. The beats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike and keys. Absolutely. Body.

Game was going crazy. There's a lot of different pallets on here. There's. There's some kind of boom bappy stuff. There's some West Co stuff. Some of the mixes were. His voice sounded a little muddy to me, but maybe that was just me on my little speaker this morning. So let me not pick that apart. This is really dope. Game really doesn't miss on.

[E]

On.

[D]

On projects, and this one is no exception.

[B]

I just love hearing him rap. He's just a rapper's rapper to me. And every track.

[C]

Any standouts for y'?

[B]

All?

[C]

Clown emojis.

[D]

I love clown emojis.

[C]

Clown emojis was the one right out the well.

[A]

Can y' all play some of that? And I do want to hear some.

[B]

Of the Assassination and America's nightmare. Oh, yeah.

[D]

Oh, it sounds a really long intro. You want me to give a head.

[A]

A couple of joints?

[B]

Take like a minute to get in.

[C]

Give it that mixtape feel, though.

[E]

Got a purse from Chanel, you spicy as hell you say clock it, stop it. My glock sit comfy in my form.

[C]

Heart pocket, body's in the boneyard I'm.

[E]

Stonewall locked in the loan sharks get thrown darts for stone jar rocking wearing skirts on earth and call it fashion wear mer she gets no love for that section full of no rock vaping.

[C]

Like these hoes man, who raised you up? I was raised by a family of.

[E]

Crips and when blood heard Machiavelli so many times, I went thug but you clown Emojis.

[A]

All right. That's hard.

[D]

Yeah, that's hard.

[A]

I'm with you on the mix.

[D]

Yeah, he's. He sounds his.

[A]

His vocal.

[D]

He don't sound it all the way like he's supposed to.

[A]

Yeah, I really did. That was crazy.

[D]

This sounds like a. This sounds like a. Some roughs. There's a lot of dope on this.

[B]

I mean, I liked America's Nightmare. I like the quarters.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

You wanted.

[D]

You wanted the assassination, right?

[A]

I.

[B]

With that, too.

[A]

I wanted to hear the assassination record.

[C]

What is the truth?

[A]

L. And why you going to be.

[E]

Truthful with me when you lie to everybody else? Lie to me?

[B]

Production on this.

[C]

People love to be lied to.

[E]

And they wouldn't believe it happened if it happened and they were sitting right beside you. Fantasy world, Fantasy world About a thousand people die for every dominant pearl that means body stack tires, condos from Sudan to the Congo if I train you today while I go out like Alonzo Monte Carlo with a wahalo gawking the blood that I can't swallow a.

[C]

You know, soon as rappers die, they.

[E]

Get a couple million follows.

[C]

What's the infatuation with violence?

[E]

I mean, gunshots loud. But at funerals, all of a sudden we get silent. Land of the tyrants where murder spread like a virus and life is a.

[C]

Bowling alley and we just in this.

[E]

Bitch with Iverson, just young thugs, what we do, no biggie, no bad Stuyvesant, no common sense just empty bottles of lean we swine diving in But I blame the media, this cancer we live and die, man, and you want to get one life. You can't erase this.

[A]

All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

[C]

He went crazy.

[B]

He got busy. This whole Crazy. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

This album is great. This album is great. I got a little bit more. I was listening to it in the shower, and so I don't know the song titles, everything. There was one that was kind of, like, public.

[B]

Yeah, it is.

[D]

It didn't pop up in, like, the.

[A]

Cuz.

[B]

I didn't see the new.

[D]

You had to go in.

[B]

You had to go searching.

[C]

Yeah, that's that.

[B]

But I like. I like that. From top to bottom. Bottom.

[D]

Yeah. This is great. This is great.

[C]

I'm gonna lock in with this one when I leave. Get the rest.

[D]

We got a new west side Gun three pack. I haven't listened to it yet. I just. Maybe it came out while we were recording, but I am going to check that out. There's a new Sky Zoo album, an Eric Sermon Dynamic Duos album, which is. Sounds like what it is, and it's actually really, really dope.

[C]

And another one who. I. I don't understand what's happening with Lil Baby. Also. He put out a. He put out a.

[E]

A.

[C]

A five pack, I want to say, two weeks ago called Middle of the Summer in the Winter.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But he put out Middle of the Summer and then turned right around and dropped the leaks, which had the songs off of that, plus eight more records. It's not a deluxe. It's just. It's just a. Now it's an album. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on, but that's another artist who I don't really understand. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand. I don't understand what's happening with Lil Baby right now. But I did get a quick skim through it, and it's good music on here. You know, I said the same thing when the EP dropped.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I played the record with him and G herbo as a sleeper.

Again, if it's good music coming out, I don't. Whatever y' all are doing with y', all, whether it be your deal or you working something with the label, that's fine. I don't get it.

[D]

Just the little bio said it sounded like it was like records that were maybe soundcloud leaks or the equivalent thereof. There were records that came out that were never on the project.

[C]

That's what the first one was.

[B]

I don't.

[C]

I don't. I don't get the ep and then.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

I'm always down for more music, so.

[D]

For sure.

[B]

Can I get. I want to give a shout out to Beanie Seagull 2 just put out a new single. It's really Porsche Ruck's single, but it came out two days ago. A little video, but I loved it because the AI was being used.

[C]

Used.

[B]

Once again, the right way to use AI.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We get to actually hear Beating Seagull's voice. It sounds so clear. It sounded like it was the truth back then. And I thought his verse was dope, too. I thought the whole song was dope.

[F]

So shout out to both of them.

[C]

You got. You got a little bit.

[D]

I got a little bit.

[C]

All right, let's see.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Addicted to the head Filling up the cash ball. We don't do the idol speak. We just.

[A]

At the cash talk.

[B]

We got the blueprint.

[A]

You can't trace us.

[B]

Just draw with that wrench. Like the paces It's a bucketing up When R come round we're screaming hot.

[A]

When that truck touch down.

Addicted to the streets I can't shake Seven days.

[B]

Seven weeks Gotta make gotta leave the.

[F]

Streets alone But I can't.

[D]

That's over.

[C]

I'm not mad at that.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

If AI can do that, great. I'm happy.

[D]

Great use of AI.

[C]

Great use.

[D]

Great use of AI.

[A]

Any more music or you guys done? Did Biz Markey drop.

[B]

Rest in Peace to the Great Bismarck?

[A]

Indeed. Might have been a posthumous project.

[B]

Yeah, he just had a bunch of meat boxes laying around.

[A]

Smiles or something. Did Lil Zane drop drop something?

[E]

Oh, my God. He be on Tick Tock live all the time.

[A]

And if you wanted, we could do it in the black 500 with the top down. I know you would play with. So let's get away to get away.

[E]

We still look good too.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[F]

I'm find a happy in this spot for women. Yo, I got you.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I think it's just an acne now because I FaceTime on it. The other day she had a. On the air mattress. Oh, yeah.

[C]

You put something through the air mattress.

[A]

She had. She pulled the air mattress out the closet, had a little something there, walked to the bathroom.

[E]

Off the air mattress. I'm off the air mattress.

[D]

Right on closet.

[C]

Make some noise.

[A]

Make some noise.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

God will do it.

[E]

Because that's awkward when you're on the phone.

[A]

I got two part of the shows for y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

All right, all right. Michael says, what up, Mike? I am not ready. Hey, you guys. Longtime JBP fan and ice. Give me some glass. House versus nigga. I need some guidance and advice. My ex is pregnant and it's mine.

We've been on and off again for eight years, and each time it escalates. Oh, Lord.

[D]

You just escalated a lot, right?

[A]

Two of which times resulted in her and I going to jail on separate occasions. Okay. This last time, she was struggling bad, y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

And I had been the last arrest.

[D]

So you said fuck it.

[A]

I felt as though my actions caused a chain reaction that resulted in her being nearly homeless, addicted, and fighting for survival.

[C]

God damn.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Me trying to help. Moved her in, moved her in. With me funding her and thankfully getting her soap sober.

[D]

That's dope.

[A]

However, in that time got him a little bit. Daddy wouldn't got a cookie out there. Come on. I mean, we see where this was going. However, in that time, because the dope ass look good if they in your house. If they. If they in your house and left their habits outside. You gonna papa.

[C]

And he cleaned up.

[A]

Yeah, you gonna papa smelling like doves.

[E]

Crazy.

[A]

Let's see.

[C]

She's showering now.

[A]

Look at you, girl.

[D]

She gonna love you a little extra. She gonna love you a little extra. Man, it's like a. I have love.

[A]

For her, but we are not meant to be together. I guess I'm just asking those who have experience, how do I raise a child with someone I know I don't have a future with? I feel like that's a question. Watch your mouth, nigga. And it's part of the show. And I do wanna add, I have my own vices as well. And I'm not trying to paint her as a drug addict who needed help and is now pregnant.

[B]

Well, exactly what you said.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. You didn't pay.

[C]

You permanent.

[A]

Mark wrote it.

[D]

Yeah, that's 4K.

[A]

Both of us wronged each other and now we're connected for life. I appreciate all of you. Call me if you want. I'm him over there, so I can take a call.

[E]

I like that the questions came too late. Like, it's too late. The baby coming.

[C]

Nigga, just make it about the child, man.

[B]

That's the answer.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

You can absolutely raise a child with somebody who's not for you.

[C]

Yeah, it ain't about y' all no more.

[B]

Just raise the child.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

I mean, yeah, you could do that. Or that's the other plus about having a baby with a dope bitch. Like, you can go to court and just say, yo, look at her.

[C]

Well, she clean now.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And he's got his vices.

[C]

Yeah, she might go to court and say, look at him.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Hey, don't listen to me.

[D]

Careful what you ask for.

[A]

Don't listen to me. Distinguished panel, y' all fix him up. The next one's a doozy. I'm doing two parter shows.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

Yeah, help the brother out.

[B]

That was the help.

[A]

Man, I don't got no kids. Break up.

[B]

Break up with her. Whatever y' all supposed to be doing. Don't do that. And just ra. The quicker you can get to the place where y' all just raising the kid together, the quicker you'll be happy. Cuz, if you keep going back and forth with her, that's it. And I don't care how. Well, let me not say that. Yeah, I'll leave that part.

[C]

Yeah. Cuz, it's clear. This part, this is not the person for you. Y' all going to Jail now and like y. Y again. It's a kid. Now get away from her as fast as you can and focus only on raising your child together. That's it.

[D]

Time to grow up. That's all I got for you.

[A]

I got in the elevator coming to work. There was this guy in there on some business casual, jeans, little light sweater, had a handbag and all that. You know, I'm talkative. You know, I'm like, hey, good morning, you look great. He says, yeah, man, 67. I said 67, you look amazing. Reason. What's the secret? I'm such a.

[B]

You tried to bag him, dude. He's like this guy keep trying to me every morning.

[A]

He said, I'll be honest.

He says, I'll tell you what the secret is. No kids. Ah, well, yeah. I said, brother, that'll do it. He said, and no wife. Again, just some good girlfriends.

[E]

Gay.

[D]

That's hate.

[B]

I'm with Mona.

[A]

You think that's gay?

[E]

No, no, I don't think it's gay.

[B]

I just think that you think he was gay.

[E]

He was gay because he was too excited to get them compliments by some random element.

[B]

Let me think about it. You in the. You, you in. You in the elevator with him, you know, telling him he making your. Using your best move, your best language. You know what I mean? You tell him you look good, he ain't got no kids, no wife. Most people 67 with no wife and no kids, there's usually a reason. That's all I'm saying.

[C]

Maybe his choice.

[D]

I'm not gonna lie. I've met a lot of stressed out gay people in my life, so I don't know if that theory quite follows.

[B]

I'm just saying I haven't met.

[A]

I'm not saying it.

[D]

Don't be all hunky dory over there.

[B]

I'm not saying the gay people are happy. I'm just saying if you meet a women's other this all the time, they meet a dude over 40 who's never been married, never lived with nobody, got no kids.

[D]

Cory, oh, he's got a kid.

[C]

They say his red flag.

[B]

And Cory's got a kid.

[D]

He does.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Like, and it's nothing wrong with you. I'm just saying. Yeah, me and Mona think he's gay.

[E]

He in the elevator, floating, flirting with Joe.

[B]

That's the other thing. He's flirting with Joe in the elevator.

[E]

Yeah, like, come on Joe, get on the elevator flirting with him. He flirt back.

[A]

67.

You look great in the morning.

I'm on to my second part of the show.

[B]

Yes. Tell the man he looks great in the elevator. What's your secret? And he goes 67.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all.

[E]

That's.

[B]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it.

[F]

I like it. Joe might have another one. All that sauce on it. My man might not have said it in that manner.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I have another word for why y' all think the way you think. But I've said it too much this month, so I can.

[E]

Can't.

[A]

Okay, but it's poor.

[B]

I broke ass on the compliment that.

[A]

Looked like he was walking to his brand new or old collectible Porsche that you would have said it to him too. He had a scarf, some gel mousse in his head. He was killing 67.

[E]

I'm a huge compliment. I'm joking.

Right?

[A]

This next one is from Crazy Crystal.

[C]

Was that in Crystal?

[A]

Yeah, it's from Crystal. Crystal says, if your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and yalls relationship, what would you tell them and would you leave some stuff out?

[B]

Can you read that one more time for me?

[A]

If your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were and yalls relationship, what would you tell? Tell them and would you leave some stuff out?

[D]

That's deep.

[C]

I'm gonna answer the second part. Yes.

[A]

I would definitely leave some stuff out.

[B]

There's a lot.

[A]

One million percent stuff that you'll never know again.

[C]

It never happened.

[A]

Sorry. It ain't in my bowl no more.

[C]

It only happened because you remember.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think I'll leave nothing out.

[F]

Me either. That's a tough question.

[A]

Oh, here comes perfect white man again. Here he goes.

[D]

Stress free life.

[A]

If your partner lost their memory today and you had to remind them of who you were, I would try to just move forward.

[C]

I'm Daddy.

[E]

I would build up a character of a great, great. I wouldn't like. Why not? You know what I mean?

[C]

You don't get a second chance.

[E]

At what exactly what I'm reminding you. All the shit I've done you and your family.

[F]

Spring water on a hot day.

[C]

Baby talking.

[B]

Nah.

[F]

I don't even know how you would possibly remind them who you are. Because those experiences make y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that would be a hard one.

[B]

See, I think that's where you tell them the best. Like, you have to say it out loud. But like, think about, like, the best moment y' all had.

[C]

Feel Them and we going down.

[B]

You can paint the picture.

[C]

I'm going. We actually got the pictures. Hey look. This is what we did this look. Let me show you. This was. This is us baby.

[B]

Look.

[C]

This is it, right?

[D]

You ever have someone tell you like a dream?

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

That is boring as you can't just go tell yo it was beautiful falls.

[C]

And we jumped in there.

[B]

She ain't got no memory. She might be looking for that.

[E]

This sounds like a like a 90s movie. Remember those movies in 90s where the.

[B]

Wife eternal sunshine of that was my.

[E]

I'm talking about more sillier low brow movies. The one that comes to mind. The mom loses her. The mom loses her memory and the dad has the Whatever. Whatever.

[C]

Y' all it up.

[D]

We did right?

[E]

Yeah. Y' all don't know the movies I'm talking about.

[A]

You didn't have cable.

[C]

Yes, I didn't stop doing that.

[A]

The cable movies was different than what.

[F]

The Goldie horn joint.

[E]

Goldie horn. Thank you.

[A]

Is he would say it was a gold. You're Goldie horn.

[E]

Thank you. And Kurt Russell is silly ass crazy.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

If my partner lost their memory today.

[E]

Hi, I'm Parks.

[A]

No, no, no, I'm chilling. I thought this was a real good question. I wish I had more to offer on the topic, but I can't even imagine the day. There you go. I can't imagine.

[E]

Please.

[A]

There you go. Get out of there. Yeah, I'm going.

[C]

Get out.

[A]

I'm going. Trying to set me up.

[B]

I think the hard part is like when you, you know, like relationships all got this not all essential.

[C]

Wait, hold up. So she lost her memory. So she only know how to nothing.

[F]

That might be muscle memory.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I got another one where I mean it seemed like he tried trying to diss us, but does seem like interesting. This might hit different. Who's this? Wesley. Watch your mouth, Wesley. This might hit different given all the recent noise about the pod being anti academic or whatever. But did y' all see Nippon Steel just. Just paid 14.9 billion for U.S. steel. Everyone's asking about jobs and national security. Nobody's asking where that value actually came from. I did the research, dog. Not now.

[B]

Hey, yeah.

[A]

Yo, yo. I agree. Yep. No, not now. I mean, this sounds really compelling, but it's at the end of the pod.

[D]

I'm gonna go to C Span for that one.

[A]

It's Friday, big dog. Nerdy for me.

Yeah. N. He went crazy.

[E]

He did the research.

[D]

Salute to Wesley.

[C]

Salute, fam.

[E]

Stop right there.

[D]

He did call it stupid.

[C]

A little Bit.

[B]

But why would Wesley think we'd have the answer to that?

[A]

Yeah. Word.

[D]

What do you think about the steel industry?

[B]

You know who I'm going to ask?

[A]

Here's Crystal with another one, and then I'm done. We can get out of here. I was watching the Diddy doc, and the woman said she told her mom as a child what happened, and the mom wrote a letter to his parents. I'm not buying that. That made me think. We always want to automatically believe women. All right, I'm done with you. I'm done with you. Try to jam me up reading your words. I'm going, man. Listen, good pod today. Yeah, listen, it was a good podcast.

[B]

A street going, huh? We got a streak going. A really, really strong pod.

[A]

I'm not doing this. Yes, we do. It's the jbp. Every pod is a strong pod.

[B]

No, that's not true. But some days we have better than others. Some days we put up 30, some days we put up 22. But we putting. Putting up 30 every night. That's all I'm saying. It's been really good streak. We killing it. Don't you agree, Joe?

[A]

Yeah, I do think that we've been killing it.

[D]

I'm sure you got a tune in the.

[A]

Each and every one of us. Each and every one of us.

[B]

Each and every one of us a.

[A]

Tune to play to. Get out of here.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Get us out of here, man.

[E]

Youall want me to sing us out?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. Thank you, Jesus.

[E]

This is so much jealousy in here.

[D]

It is.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm going, man. What y' all doing this weekend? Anything fun?

[B]

Anything I can exploit for Entertainment Tonight?

[D]

Parties and events.

[B]

Tonight I'm hitting Erykah Badu, her show. Tonight I'm going to Erica Badu's concert.

[A]

There you go.

Guys could dream, right? Where's she at?

[B]

Brooklyn Williamsburg.

[A]

Okay. Me out.

[B]

Yeah, and it's close. Brooklyn.

[E]

Are you following her show around? It's not the first time you've been on the store.

[B]

I mean, I would, but I'm not. But I absolutely would. But me and my wife gonna check that out. And then Sunday, I'm going to see Stephen Colbert and Conan o' Brien at Prudential hall in Jersey.

[E]

You got nice.

[F]

Prudential Center.

[B]

Prudential Center. I'm sorry.

[A]

Newark, Yo.

[B]

That's the one thing y' all got. Oh.

[E]

I have a show in Tacoma, Washington.

[C]

So I'm talking about.

[A]

You gonna hit the shoulder shimmy on them? No, out there. I mean, always.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Like how do you come to the stage at your shows? A normal walk? Do you dance? Do you turn it up?

[E]

I promise you, I come out, they stand up, I turn around, shake my ass every show.

[A]

Walking out that show.

[B]

I had the.

[E]

Phone in my hand and I'm looking at the video of me coming out, and then all I can see is my feet. And I'm like, just stop. Like, why are you doing this?

[A]

But them Reddit boys, like, when you shake that, when you shake them legs.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

Oh, that back region.

[C]

Y' all ain't right.

[E]

He ain't no.

[A]

Them legs, them little legs. Get them going, boy. Newer couch. What. What are y' all doing for the weekend?

[C]

Anything y' all can damn thing this weekend.

[E]

Man, I wish I was having that type of weekend. I'm tired.

[C]

I'm tired. I'm burnt out. I'm not doing.

[F]

You're going to make money. Can't be mad at that.

[C]

Yeah, you can't.

[E]

Yeah, I ain't mad at all. But I need one of this.

[A]

You can make some money this weekend, too. I'll put the call in. Bill pay.

[B]

Just don't say nothing.

[A]

They'll pay. Yeah, yeah. Even listening to him pay for some of that.

[F]

You got that number off the elevator in the quarter?

[A]

Nice reverse. Yeah.

[E]

Do you have any friends?

[A]

Park what you want.

[D]

I'm chill. I got a couple events and parties I got to go to. I'm tired of events and parties. But tis the season, so.

No, I'm not getting paid for these parties. They're like housewarmings and birthday parties and.

[C]

Other that you don't really want to go. So what you got to go.

[D]

I mean, I want to, but I don't want to. It's called cold out. Now, it's over for that runaround.

[A]

But.

I won't ask what you doing, but you better have bought the sign. The. The do not disturb.

[D]

Don't put a sock on the door.

[A]

Yeah, you, you, you.

[F]

Sock on a doorknob.

[A]

Old school. That's old school.

That's for the.

[F]

That was a lot or just that. Lived alone. A couple dollars.

[A]

It's all right, though. Listen, man, this pod was great. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast.

[D]

What you doing this weekend? You don't get to dodge the fun.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

What's the line?

[D]

Fun reporting.

[A]

I sent my dad the Knicks tickets. I'm chilling.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

I'm chilling. I ain't got too much going on.

[C]

Said, what's the lineup?

[A]

What's the line?

Yeah, that's a shame. One day. I'm going to expand my. All right.

[C]

Hey, Joe.

[D]

It's a shame because you knew the lineup.

[C]

I should charge tomorrow, not there tonight.

[A]

That's horrible too. I' ma change. I'm a change.

[C]

Just, just with just. Do you know the lineup though?

[D]

Yes, he does.

[A]

I can't even lie. I can't even lie, man.

[D]

You know Alex, that's like the album releases and single releases every week. Yeah, you gotta do that for the strip club.

[F]

Yo, if you want to see, go on Wednesday, Thursday, new up and cover. Over here.

We have a budding prospect.

[D]

Potential rookie of the year.

[F]

Whoa, that's crazy.

[C]

Y' all stupid, man.

[D]

You're into Colombians and Queens the place for you.

[E]

Sure, daddy.

[A]

Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows that's exactly where each one of us need to be. Until the next time we bid you a due farewell. Adio. Cerebra Dirty. Asta la vista arvois so long a bio. A simple head knob will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass.

So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Have a and last but certainly not least, after the hook.

Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. When the close minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. E go.

Y' all have a good weekend out there.

Oh, let r know her girl is back.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, good to know.

[D]

Yeah, let me know this week if you.

[F]

Don't look away now.