Episode 885 | "I Don't See Beauty"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast: Episode 885 | "I Don't See Beauty"

Date: December 10, 2025
Host: Joe Budden & The Joe Budden Network Crew

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Overview

Episode 885 of The Joe Budden Podcast serves up the usual blend of sharp banter, social observation, and hip-hop culture, with Joe and the crew diving into everything from concert experiences and dress codes at the gym to infamous viral moments and music industry news. The episode’s recurring themes: navigating public life as Black men, societal double standards, the ever-evolving entertainment landscape, and the importance (and myth) of "the streets".

The crew for this ride includes Queens Flip, Mark Lamont Hill, Ice, Big Parks, and guest spots from Erick Sermon. The episode is marked by candid conversation, comedic detours, and plenty of quotable lines, all while never taking themselves too seriously.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Art of Joking and Group Dynamics

• Opening segments find the crew ribbing each other about relationships, dress code, and Mark’s supposed time in a “cult,” setting the tone for a loose, playful episode.
• (01:19, Ice):

  "All his jokes be—I don't think y'all hear him."

2. Concerts: The Perils and Pleasures of Live Shows

• Mark laments about difficult white crowds at an Erykah Badu concert:
  (14:48, Mark Lamont Hill):

  "Erica was great, okay let me say that first...White people, man. They stood up the whole show for the slow jams, doing this Charlie Brown dance. My wife couldn't see. There was a 6'-5" dude in our way—had to switch seats."

• The debate on standing at concerts leads to broader convo about the right seating (balcony, box, etc.), crowd etiquette, and performer vs. audience perspective.

3. The Changing Age of Style: Hoodies, Crewnecks, and Code Switching

• Discussion ensues about trading hoodies for crewnecks as they age, the subtle class and age signals in clothing, and how code-switching (especially for Black men) plays out in public spheres.
  (24:48, Joe Budden):

  "Parks cold code-switches, right? The hoodie code-switch. I never even thought that he would say something bad about a hoodie..."

4. Gym Dress Codes, Phone Bans, and 'Cameltoe Culture'

• The group discuss viral debates on gym attire for women.
  • Should gyms have a dress code?
  • Do camera phones and tripods make gyms unbearable?
  • The men reflect on male gaze, boundaries for compliments, and the awkwardness of being caught looking.
• Notable quote/exchange:
  (28:24, Joe Budden):

  "Do you look at cameltoe when they got it out out?"
  (28:48, Ice):
  "All jokes aside, I wanna look up, and now it's weird if we catch eye contact."

5. Complimenting Women in Public and Relationship Boundaries

• Is it "allowed" to compliment women out and about, at the gym, or at the bank? Crew debates the etiquette and perception of innocent vs. suggestive comments, especially from married men.
• (33:07, Mark Lamont Hill):

  "No, no, and no...nothing about her's appearance in my comment. Would you tell your wife what?"

• The flipside—accepting the attraction and humanity of others—is also discussed, relating it to honest, secure relationships.

6. Social Media Algorithms, Finstas, and Liking Thirst Traps

• The struggle is real: avoiding temptation and 'liking' questionable Instagram posts when the algorithm seems out to get you.
• (39:40, Joe Budden):

  "How do y'all avoid looking when your algorithm gets in one of those modes where it's sending you nothing but the chicks that you would..."

7. Art Basel, Busta Rhymes & the Era of Content Pranks

• Recap of viral Art Basel moment where a fan mistakenly (or on purpose, as a prank) calls Busta “Tracy Morgan.” The conversation delves into prank culture, the line between playful and disrespectful, and Busta's "zero tolerance" for foolishness.
• (47:05, Mark Lamont Hill):

  "I think after the first—that was right after the first situation."

• The crew defends the right of celebrities like Busta to react as they see fit, while also observing that sometimes the best moment is to make it funny.

8. Viral Racism: The 'Cinnabon Lady' and Corporate Accountability

• They discuss the viral video of a Cinnabon employee openly targeting a customer for their hijab, and how quickly she was fired.
• The crew muses on the ongoing presence of "old-school" racism, performative corporate accountability, and the fatigue of having to discuss every new instance online.
• (54:53, Joe Budden):

  "All right, little miss White lady. That'll be your very last Cinnabon for the day."

9. Platforming White Supremacists: Should We Air Their Views?

• Debate whether platforms like Piers Morgan's should give airtime to racists and white nationalists like Nick Fuentes; weighing the value of exposing vs. inadvertently validating extremist ideologies.
• (59:14, Mark Lamont Hill):

  "I struggle with it. I see both sides of it, like putting them on air because somebody's gonna watch that and still get something from it..."

10. The Streets are Done: Street Mythology, Snitch Culture & Morality

• Joe and the crew dissect whether “the streets” as a code/way of life for Black men is dead, and what values are left to pass on to the next generation.
• Notable exchange:
  (90:02, Joe Budden):

  "When I say the streets is done, I guess what I'm saying is we've learned more."
  (93:24, Mark Lamont Hill):
  "We appreciate those values like loyalty, honor, respect..."
  (95:29, Joe Budden):
  "It's not wrong if that's where you want to be. If that's where those people want to be and they don't have plans on leaving... But when I talk to street niggas now... none of that be healthy. Yo, I love what you’re doing out here..."

11. Fame: Snoop, Shaq, and the Most Famous Person Debate

• The crew debates a viral tweet about the world's most famous celebrities—who makes the list? Is Snoop Dogg in the elite tier? Is Shaq? Does fame = Instagram followers? Does "face card" transcend borders?
• (101:16, Ice):

  "Snoop is one of the most famous people on the planet just in terms of knowing who he is."

• Spirited arguments about where Snoop, Shaq, Oprah, Michael Jordan, LeBron, Trump, and Barack fit in the all-time fame rankings.

12. AI in Music: Artistry vs. Algorithms

• Joe admits he’s started buying AI-generated R&B songs; the table debates if this threatens real human musicianship, or is just the latest in a line of technological disruptions (sampling, Autotune, etc).
• (172:18, Big Parks):

  "As someone who spent the first... of my artistic life... sampling records, I can't listen to this and be like, 'That's blasphemy,' ... it just in a different technological format."

• They address whether the consumer even cares about "genuine" artistry anymore.

13. Major Media Moves: Paramount, Warner Bros, Netflix—and Streaming Wars

• They break down the blockbuster news of the Paramount hostile takeover bid for Warner Bros. Discovery ($108 billion), Netflix’s competitive offer, and whether these mergers are monopolistic or just next-level business.
• (185:14, Joe Budden):

  "Regulatory filings show that Ellison family and Redbird Capital will backstop 100% of our equity commitment..."

• Joe and Ice reflect on the significance: “It’s making people choose between new and old guard.”

14. Streamer Awards and Lack of Diversity

• Recap of the Streamer Awards, including cringe jokes (e.g., Diddy comparison to Kai Cenat), India Love’s turn as “little mama”, and an overall lack of writers/structure/professionalism—plus the notable absence of Black winners in major categories despite Black streamers’ dominance.
• (197:17, Joe Budden):

  "You don’t take one of our most beloved, famous, young, successful Black streamers... and compare him to the most horrific doc available right now."

15. Miscellaneous Highlights

• Relationship boundaries: when is it OK to follow or interact with a friend’s partner on social media?
• Cassie’s legal troubles: Ducking lawsuits from an ex-escort over "sex trafficking" and emotional distress—crew debates whether her accuser is a "victim".
• Sleepers: Eric Sermon/Redman/Meth, Tory Lanez, and Joe’s pick of rising R&B artist Ambré.
• Holiday bonuses and “pop” (being broke): Crew jokes about tough times, transferring funds, and buying expensive toys for the kids.
• Wrap-Up: The episode ends with their trademark blend of banter, random anecdotes, and “sleepers.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Gut Busters & Sharp Observations

• (05:54, Joe Budden):
  "Yeah, I guess you can’t have a PhD in average."
• (28:24, Joe Budden):
  "Do you look at cameltoe when they got it out out?"
• (51:31, Joe Budden):
  "Well, we caught the car. Teamwork."
• (90:02, Joe Budden):
  "When I say the streets is done, I guess what I'm saying is, is we've, we've, we've learned more."

Candid Social Commentary

• (60:02, Big Parks):
  "I hate hearing both sides. I don't want to hear his side. I know enough. I've seen him wear a Nazi flag and I'm cool."
• (87:41, Joe Budden):
  "Yo, the streets are done, man."
• (157:11, Joe Budden):
  "How do some of these phrases stay in Society for 700 years...Crack the whip?"
• (176:21, Erick Sermon):
  "We get so caught up in just enjoying the consumption of something for our personal shit and not look at the long term effects of what it does to the industry itself."

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Important Timestamps

• Concert Etiquette:
  14:48–18:45 — Mark's Erykah Badu concert experience
• Should Gyms Have Dress Codes?:
  26:32–32:07 — Gym attire, tripods, and awkward social rules
• Art Basel Viral Moment/Prank Culture:
  43:04–46:30 — Busta Rhymes/Tracy Morgan
• Debating “the streets”:
  88:07–95:51 — The street code, morality, and generational change
• Famous People Rankings Debate:
  100:17–107:44 — Snoop, Shaq, Jesus, Trump, Oprah, and more
• Cassie Legal Trouble:
  134:54–146:22 — Cassie, lawsuits, "victim" blame
• AI in Music:
  171:11–178:49 — AI-generated R&B, sampling, artistry vs. consumption
• Paramount/Warner/Netflix Takeover:
  184:17–191:45 — Billion-dollar streaming wars
• Streamer Awards (Racism, Structure, Jokes):
  192:28–197:43 — Racist jokes, Black streamer representation, awkward moments

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Episode Wrap-Up

Despite a playful, unserious start, Episode 885 tackles the fraught realities of public life, fame, racism, industry change, and what it means to grow wiser—and sometimes softer—over time. The rapport between the crew, especially as they spar about boundaries, morals, and cultural shifts, makes this episode both entertaining and sharply relevant.

“There's other ways to gain respect.” – Joe Budden (94:27)

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Sleepers

(204:07–212:22)

• Joe Budden: Ambré – “She”
• Ice: Tory Lanez – “Variables”
• Big Parks: Eric Sermon (Dynamic Duos album) ft. Redman & Method Man – “Look at Him”

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For fiery conversation, real cultural talk, and the ever-bouncing dynamics of random friends—this is a can’t-miss, trademark JBP episode.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Flip]

Yeah, when you. When you dress different, you about to go home and try some new.

[Ice]

Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[Joe Button]

He sounds normal.

[Flip]

Nah, he don't got the. The pumps on or whatever. So like usually he about to give us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He had to find something.

[Flip]

A five minute. A five minute monologue. How he love his girl and how you gonna do something nice. Watch. I won't be surprised if my man didn't propose yet. And I'm coming to the wedding. Freeze. I'm your best man. Boy, I thought about you this weekend.

[Ice]

So you know you opening the door for me to speak back, right?

[Flip]

Of course. Come on.

[Big Parks]

Uh oh. Showdown.

[Joe Button]

They showing me all your little wedding jokes on YouTube.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw that too.

[Joe Button]

They showing me your little wedding jokes poses.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like.

That joke was like a month ago. It was a good joke though.

[Joe Button]

Nah. Mark be making good Joe Bugs never getting married Joe. And I don't catch him until I go home.

[Ice]

Yo, this nigga here, all his jokes be. I'm like, I don't think y' all hear him.

[Joe Button]

Mark don't know how to joke. Cause he was in a cult.

So you have to understand that there.

[Big Parks]

Was repercussions back then.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying the way he joke.

[Big Parks]

Come upstairs.

[Ice]

It's a different joke. Is. Should be gut punched.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause we used to get gut punched.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Come to my room. Mark.

[Flip]

On the fucking intercom.

[Joe Button]

I wasn't saying that.

[Ice]

But.

[Joe Button]

Anyway. Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think we've gotten to molestation that fast before.

[Joe Button]

A new record. Damn. Ice backed you down that fast?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You did, you did. You did.

[Ice]

Stop.

[Flip]

I said say something. No, you stop.

[Joe Button]

No. And he said, yo, you opening the door.

[Flip]

And boy, I said, come on.

[Joe Button]

Nevermore. Must have been right next to you by that table.

[Flip]

You tippy toe around Ice ballerina.

[Joe Button]

I love Ice more than you.

[Flip]

Not me.

[Erick Sermon]

You do.

[Flip]

And I love. I. I love him second more.

[Joe Button]

What the is I love second war.

Ice feels. Is important to.

[Flip]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

I cut that up.

[Flip]

You can't push like Freeze give you that. Like you can't push it. Like you'll bully him.

[Joe Button]

No, Freeze.

[Flip]

He'll turn up on you. Freeze. You open the door. He about to say some disrespectful.

[Ice]

You know who my little brother is.

[Flip]

That's my man till I get him.

[Joe Button]

Also, I'm down to always crack on. Freeze. And I missed you. I want to hear from you. But when we record, let my voice be the first voice to serve.

[Ice]

Oh, sure.

[Flip]

Upon me.

[Joe Button]

All right. This is the Joe button. Oh, you know what I mean?

[Ice]

You know what's crazy? He don't do that Fridays.

[Flip]

Of course he don't do that Fridays, because, you know, he has to. He has to cater. He has to cater in order to erase. Look, I can't say that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Flip]

He has to cater in order to fall for. They cater in order to erase.

[Joe Button]

Look, you doing.

[Flip]

You know, he gotta. He gotta erase.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's so easy. It's like wind up.

[Flip]

Yeah, he gotta. He gotta do that.

[Joe Button]

You could have just chose not to. They not. It's not even true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's true.

[Ice]

No, it's true.

[Big Parks]

Go. Go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sometime he don't even be. He don't be sitting down on Friday when the show starts somet. You just get him, girl. Nah, I think. No, I think.

[Flip]

I think that's fire. I think it's fire. I support that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But, you know, that's a good answer.

[Flip]

Worry about Tuesday. Don't worry about me, man. I'm coming back Friday. I keep telling y'. All, that nigga keep making face. I'm coming back Friday. I do plan, you know, I'm feeling a little more comfortable, a little more confident. So I'll be back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's good, man. We miss you.

[Joe Button]

We missed this text first.

[Flip]

You out your mind, nigga? Watch your fucking mind. I bust right through that door.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you gotta do that like the Kool Aid, man?

[Flip]

All I said was I'm not texting you.

[Joe Button]

You're not even texting me. We don't talk no more since work. One day a week you run around meeting with all the drug dealers. And we don't really kick it like that.

[Flip]

Listen, man, listen.

[Ice]

You back in your.

[Joe Button]

In your bag.

[Flip]

I'm here to support. That's it. I'll be back Friday. I would love one of these Fridays. And I'd love to just come back and just sense the air.

[Joe Button]

One of them, a supporting role is mute up when the show starts.

What up, Parks? What up?

[Big Parks]

What's popping?

[Joe Button]

How you feeling, man?

[Big Parks]

Great, man.

It's cold out, man. Fuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is.

[Ice]

It is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Even I wore a coat today.

[Flip]

We wear hoodies. You wear sweaters.

[Big Parks]

I'm off hoodies.

[Flip]

I love you.

[Big Parks]

I'm off hoodies. I don't like hoodies no more. I wish I could just do. I wish more people made crew necks. I still wear them sometimes, but.

[Joe Button]

Find Mark's coat for me.

[Big Parks]

It's important.

[Joe Button]

I want to see it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What did I wear today? Oh, Mark.

[Joe Button]

Coats, baby.

[Ice]

Coats.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's it.

[Big Parks]

You got a windbreaker?

[Ice]

You what the fucking said?

[Joe Button]

That ain't no coat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a coat, yo.

[Ice]

It's a flight jacket, yo.

[Joe Button]

The rest of the rest of the world, it's 17 degrees up here. Mark jacket, his coat is always like your side bitch coat.

[Big Parks]

That shit like the. The jacket that the chicks are supposed to a lot of weed wear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. The chick that you're not supposed to be fucking the chicken when she creeping out your house. She got this on in a hoodie? No, she got this on and a jean jacket over it, backwards in the pocket. Here, take this boat. Mark, can you get a coat with, like, feathers?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got them. They be too heavy.

[Joe Button]

This ain't even a single goose.

[Ice]

You know, he little all that heavy.

[Flip]

Got a car. Yeah, he jump in the car.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe said that last year about my little red Montclair. I ain't worn it since I gave it to my wife.

[Big Parks]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Now, Mark coats is flavoring on the law. But you can.

[Big Parks]

Your coats fit your wife?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a medium right there.

[Ice]

That's part of the problem.

[Joe Button]

Why are you buying medium coats?

[Flip]

He likes it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like the way. I'm a medium person.

[Flip]

He likes the way it fits.

[Joe Button]

No, your hoodie shouldn't even fit under the medium.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I would like to wear coats. I just wear a hoodie.

[Ice]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I guess you can't have a PhD in average.

You can't. Can't have it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, next week I'll wear a heavy coat. Yes. Get a coat just for you.

[Joe Button]

Get them on clear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I got my clear matched.

[Joe Button]

What's the other one? Makash. That's the one I'm talking about Max.

[Ice]

Wait, that's like. Never mind.

[Joe Button]

No, I forgot what the name of it was.

[Ice]

No, I thought it was. I ain't noticed how you said that.

[Joe Button]

Don't worry about it. And what's the other one? That's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's what you was saying. I got one of them. I was pronouncing. I say macage.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wear your macage.

[Ice]

I swore that was.

[Joe Button]

Or get a Canadian goose. There you go.

[Ice]

Little moose knuckle. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Take a sip. Take a sip, big bro. Hey, big bro. Take a sip.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All you gotta do and take a sip.

[Joe Button]

That coffee is good.

[Big Parks]

It's delicious.

[Joe Button]

The best.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In a different universe, man, we'd have been out of there with that one.

[Joe Button]

Don't worry. In a couple months, I'mma take us out of here.

Hey, if it's one thing you could count on with me, some bullshit at some point, I'mma take us out.

[Ice]

You jumping right out the window.

[Joe Button]

Our good brother Ish is not here because he has the immune system of a wet rescue pood.

[Big Parks]

Them shits be durable. It's something worse.

[Joe Button]

All right. Immune system now. Not all right. The ones the rescue dogs in, doctor, don't be looking the healthiest.

[Flip]

That's true. Well, they. No, they are healthy.

[Joe Button]

They follow me. They follow me. They just know I'm gonna take them back to America. They just like the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope. I said, doctor. That's the second one I had. That was. I had that one, too.

You can't keep me doing it all day.

[Joe Button]

You put right there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's two strikes. Next time we out of here.

I'm like, one soda.

[Joe Button]

All right, I'm not doing this with y'.

[Big Parks]

All.

[Joe Button]

Mike check. One, two, one, two. For those of y' all just watching, I smell wonderful. I think that's unfair that y' all don't be knowing that.

Whole. Yo, new york city. Big jersey. Big jersey.

Come on, man.

Shout out to jo.

I mean you. You Tik Tok. Think y' all invented dancing? Nah. When Father MC and all that was out. Heavy D and all that was out. Them moves.

[Flip]

Hey, buddy.

[Joe Button]

On their way to work right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What girls play with my feelings? I don't know so that's what I ask maybe it's true that I set.

[Flip]

Myself up but then again it's the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Question I ask I want someone for me who is straight A kind of cutie yes. Yep. Or smart mate.

[Flip]

I've been around searching for the right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

One but it seems like a waste.

[Flip]

Of my time Every time that I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Meet the right one it seems as if she plays you shout out to.

[Joe Button]

All the subgroups out there all the.

[Flip]

Patronies on the defense side because my offense is sort of slow it doesn't pay to tell someone I love you because it's my vocab I love you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is a no, no I think I give in My feelings, they show I.

[Tory Lanez]

Think I better not look back I.

[Flip]

Was down a little too long and now it's time that I get on track so I must dream like pain running.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man. Yo. Rest in peace, trouble.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

T roy, indeed.

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Y' all lucky I wasn't old enough to walk in the club when this out. I'd have stepped on you if this came on when I was walking in. Beeping on. Don't let me. Would have had a car.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

Nothing like being at the party. And D, nice. Change the pace of things. That means some fly 80. Come on, real quick.

Rest in peace, Heavy D.

All right. I gotta make sure, man.

[Ice]

Bd, I'm looking for a love that's.

Hey, come on, man.

[Big Parks]

Come on, man. Pick it back up.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man. Stop playing around here.

Y' all know I'mma find some R B to start this morning. We'll stop playing.

Shout out to the ladies out there.

[Ice]

Hey, Joe, you gotta do it, yo.

[Joe Button]

Hey.

[Flip]

Huh?

[Ice]

You gotta do a DJ set.

[Matt Stoller]

For real.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. It's not bullshitting.

[Ice]

Like, you really got to.

[Joe Button]

Come on. I want to do it.

[Ice]

It's that no, like, I don't know no DJs that's gonna play this, even though this is one of them.

[Joe Button]

But I. I'm overdue a set. I'm dead ass somewhere. I got. I got scared feet when they asked me to do Soho House.

[Big Parks]

Words.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do it, do it.

[Ice]

I think you should do it.

[Joe Button]

I am going to do it. I like that little feature now in Apple music that just is blending all the music together. Like, you a dj. Yeah, that's pretty fly.

Y' all can figure out why we. What we starting with by the hook. We didn't have that talk.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to the parents out there.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace, andre harrell.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I mean, keep the applause going for the best crew in the world.

All right? We have to fix that. By the end of this.

I up the pitch on the new Joe Button.

[Flip]

Pussy. Pussy.

[Joe Button]

And Flip is in the building. Microphone check. What episode is this?

[Big Parks]

Eight hundred and eighty five.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 885 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Fuel, by Power, by Prize picks. Prize picks, gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful super. Happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with the greatest crew in the world. To my right, Queens. Get the money. Queens. Flip is in the building next to him. Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. The freeziest of them all.

King Elmira. Big Parks is in the building. Poets here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. What's up, man? What's poppin?

[Ice]

Good, man.

[Flip]

Chilling, man. Good.

[Joe Button]

Good to see y'. All.

[Flip]

Good to see y', all, man.

[Big Parks]

What y' all was on this weekend? Anything fun?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think.

[Big Parks]

How was the Erykah Badu show?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was okay. Erica was great. Okay, let me say that first.

[Big Parks]

Erica was a good start.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Show white people, man.

[Flip]

What happened?

[Joe Button]

Well, that. Since the beginning of time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know, but I forgot.

[Joe Button]

Why are we still surprised?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what? And I'm mad at myself because, like, you go to, like, a hip hop show, it's gonna be white people there. You go to Erykah Badu's show, it's gonna be white people there. Sure it was.

[Big Parks]

So usually the cool ones. Erykah Badu show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Usually it be the cool ones. That's it. This was at Kings Theater in Brooklyn. And it was not the cool ones.

[Big Parks]

Damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And they were. First of all, they, like, stood up the whole show.

[Big Parks]

Which.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This was the 25th anniversary of Mama's Gun. So there's a lot of slow jams on there. So they were standing up for like the slow shit. Like, didn't you know? And then they would all start doing this white people dance. It looked like Charlie Brown, like, the way they were all kind of bouncing around the wave. Yeah. And it was like you couldn't see. And it was making me mad because I.

[Big Parks]

Did you stand up on the chair?

[Ice]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

You know, I could see.

[Big Parks]

Maybe your wife could have put you on the shoulders.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that's it. That's what made it frustrating. Cause this is where being married is a thing. Like, she couldn't see. Cause this 6 foot 5 white dude was in front of her. So I had to switch seats with her. And then everybody in the back was asking him to move, and he wouldn't move.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you ain't slide him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

You just switched seats.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm mature and civil.

[Flip]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

I'm joking around, but I absolutely feel you. When I did the Boy Is Mine concert at the Barclays, two niggas, they just kept getting up in front of me.

[Big Parks]

We had to stand up.

[Joe Button]

They were closer to the stage. Oh, yeah, you was there. Yeah, they. The way they stand up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And how do you really deal with concert stand up?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the thing.

[Big Parks]

You gotta stand too, unfortunately.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because you can't be like, yo, don't stand up. You pay for the seats.

[Joe Button]

I disagree with that part. In a certain seat, you're not supposed to stand up. You can't stand up. You got the good seats. You at the stage, you can see it all Right.

[Flip]

What are you up for?

[Joe Button]

You crazy as hell.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

That good seat cost mean a lot.

[Big Parks]

Also, as I'm enjoying this as a performer, you know, you don't want to see the front sitting down looking sad.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Big Parks]

You want to see the people up in action. Even if it's a slow white active, it's still.

[Joe Button]

Well, you're absolutely right about that. As a performer, that is exactly what I want to see.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

As someone sitting in the good seat.

[Flip]

I don't want to see with my.

[Joe Button]

Good clothes on and my good cologne on. With my lady out here, I don't want to have to.

[Ice]

You know what?

[Big Parks]

I need to redefine good seat, unfortunately, in the position that we are in because we can afford to be up front, but maybe we are not upfront people. Maybe we need to be a little balcony situation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

I think it's box time now.

[Big Parks]

It's box time.

[Joe Button]

Swedenbox.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

It depends on what type of show it is. That's facts too though, because certain shows, the box is not where you want to be. You're too far.

[Big Parks]

Too far.

[Joe Button]

Well, the box is never where you want it. The bot people are in the box to be too far. Yeah. They in there to be on a rich. Bring us food. We'll watch it on the screen in the box.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We just partying with our friends.

[Joe Button]

When you got us to box at the Bill Burr, that was a great time. When Parks did well, you have to steal the credit from Ice If I got it wrong.

No, now I'm giving it to ice. That was me. Well, when we were in the box, that was a great time.

[Ice]

It was for that type of show.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Now if I'm at.

Chris Brown, I don't want to be in the box.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Like you was on the riser for Kendrick.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what that was.

[Ice]

The riser is always the best spot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because you can see nobody's blocking you.

[Ice]

That's always the best spot to be all the things. Yep. You out of gen pop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Ice]

You have the. The best view of the stage.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

That's what it's designed for.

[Big Parks]

It gets especially tricky at like an arena show because it's not built like an auditorium. I think Erica was at a auditorium that should usually be good. Cause it's sloped.

[Joe Button]

It's designed for theater scene except for the orchestra part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And so when fucking Kevin McHale stands up, you just stuck. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

So we were stuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But it's cool though. But Then the chick behind us, who was black, she's talking the whole show, doing, like, ad libs, talking to Erica back and forth at times. It don't make sense. She's talking through the. You know what I mean? And my wife is losing it, and she's like, yo, she got one more time to say something, and I'm gonna have to go say something to her. And then I'm like, I ain't trying to.

[Ice]

You slid in front of your wife?

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't.

That's funny, though. But they look like. Yeah, I mean, they was about that actress.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Two sisters from Brooklyn. That was a little brolic. And I was like, we gonna get slid. But I mean, who wants to be brawl?

[Flip]

You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was just too much. And I was like, it didn't. But Erica was amazing. She killed it. Mama's gone. I can't believe it's 25 years old. Yeah, a lot of albums are 25. It was dope.

[Big Parks]

But I saw her huge desk at New York Times. You see that? Oh, they did, like, a tiny desk, but it was in, like, the New York Times. I think it was in the New York Times building. So it's like, oh, wow. It might have been a thousand people in that. Like, wow. They bodied it, though. So carry on.

[Joe Button]

Sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was gonna say, but didn't the whites redeem themselves on Sunday for me? Because I had tickets to see LeBron at, you know, one of his last performances, maybe at the Sixers, but my wife informed me that we had tickets to see Stephen Colbert and Conan o' Brien that day.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't realize that was a conflict.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

Tell the truth about this one. Nope.

[Ice]

You got it.

[Joe Button]

So what'd you do?

[Ice]

You know what he did?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So Conan o' Brien's a genius.

[Big Parks]

Wow.

[Ice]

You know exactly what he did.

[Joe Button]

What a Conan.

[Big Parks]

Bryan is very funny, but I would.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm actually glad I made the choice, Mark.

[Ice]

No, you're not. You just trying to.

[Big Parks]

What about. Mark says that he doesn't want to go see Colbert and Cody.

[Joe Button]

Well, when paired against his final performance.

[Big Parks]

He can get another LeBron ticket, and LeBron ain't going.

[Joe Button]

And LeBron went off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did go off. Once I saw the results of the game, I was sorry, but I didn't feel like driving to Philly, and I was able to sell the tickets, get a good amount of money for him. This was right at Prudential. It was nice, but I'm telling you, it was hilarious. I sent you a text afterward. You didn't respond to it was because I thought of you while I was watching it. It was like some genius shit they did. It was brilliant. It gave you a lot of insight. It was amazing to watch, and I was glad I saw it.

[Erick Sermon]

And this was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We were like, one of, like, three black people in the building. And these whites were nice. They stayed out of our way. They were very friendly.

[Big Parks]

Sat in their seats, started on time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They sat in their seats the whole time.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

But, I mean, I'll say it. Fuck it. I do think that geography is a huge part of concert going.

[Flip]

Because he was in Brooklyn, so it's different.

[Joe Button]

But not just Brooklyn, because I go to concerts in Brooklyn all the time. Okay, but what Kings went to Kings, that's on Flat Theater in Brooklyn, which is a different section of Brooklyn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

New Brooklyn.

[Flip]

It's on Flatbush.

[Joe Button]

It's that section of Brooklyn.

[Ice]

It's the New Brooklyn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that was the problem.

[Big Parks]

No, no. Kings Theater is in New Brooklyn.

[Flip]

No, it's old Brooklyn.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Old, old, old. Old Kingston's in New Brooklyn.

[Ice]

Oh, no, I'm thinking the Bush.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're talking about. Bush.

[Flip]

You talking about down Flatbush, Atlantic Avenue. No, that's not where Kings Theater is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That shit.

[Big Parks]

Isn't you thinking of Paramount maybe?

[Ice]

That's the one I'm thinking of.

[Joe Button]

Paramount is beautiful in the new section of Brooklyn.

[Ice]

That's the one I was talking about.

[Joe Button]

No, my bad, my bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But this had the colonizer whites and the old Brooklyn blue Lax. So it was the worst of both worlds.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I wouldn't have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but Erica only, you know, I mean, a choice.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Ice]

You gotta go.

[Joe Button]

Had to go. I had a choice.

[Ice]

You can't miss.

[Flip]

You're never gonna make the King's Theater.

[Joe Button]

King's Theater will never see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't even go to Prudential Hall.

[Flip]

He don't even go to.

[Joe Button]

I'm very intentional about where I go. No, King Theater will never see.

[Flip]

There's a back.

[Joe Button]

They've been trying to get us to perform. They. Come on, do it. You can have 100% of everything. You get the bar, you hit the door. No, that's. Just not going to. But shout out to y'. All. Yeah, shout out to y'.

[Big Parks]

All. I heard it's great theater.

[Flip]

It.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Flip]

It's very nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I enjoy myself.

[Flip]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Button]

It is a great theater. Just where it is and how you get there.

[Ice]

Not with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you.

[Joe Button]

I'll never.

[Flip]

Are you saying that it. It'll likely be an issue. A issue May arise if perform at King.

[Joe Button]

I've never had an issue with King's theater.

[Flip]

Me neither. Well, I did when I perform it when I hosted something there. So I'm like.

I jumped on the stage, I'm bugged.

[Joe Button]

I just forgot. But.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You said what it was answered.

[Flip]

Did I perform there?

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you said you.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

No, I hosted Major Hypes, Caribbean Kings of Comedy.

[Joe Button]

Oh, years ago. Yeah, that was recently.

[Flip]

No, it was a couple of years ago. You had an issue because they was saying something back and I said I'm from Queens and I jumped into the crowd and then it got. Almost got ugly.

Just doing stupid ignorant and they was major. They was mad at me. I didn't get booked for a while.

[Big Parks]

Damn. But you got booked in the crowd that night?

[Flip]

No, almost. I'll be on that time though.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You gotta go out ignorantly. You gotta go out. You really don't like this right here, Tight jackets, acting crazy. You can't be like this. And you can't be like him neither, twinkle toes. You gotta go out pure ignorant.

[Big Parks]

Would you wear to the Conan o', Brien, Jeff?

Did you code switch?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, did I wore brown corduroys. I wore a sweater very similar to.

[Big Parks]

That one with the elbow pads.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I wore a coat, a real live adult coat.

[Flip]

What shoe you wearing?

[Joe Button]

A cap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I wore these brown polo boots. Yeah, I fit. I looked like I fit.

[Ice]

You wanted to be as non threatening as possible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As non threatening and nondescript as possible.

[Joe Button]

Or you could have just wore any of your clothes. Oh shit. You could have wore whatever you wanted to wear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I wear hoodies too much.

[Joe Button]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They don't like the hoodies. Even tight ones.

[Flip]

Would you ever give that up? At some point we got to give it up, right? Yeah, I'll be watching like you see what park says how Parks is in that is in that mode, right? There's a lot of people doing that now. They're dressing different. I guess the older that I get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm.

[Flip]

I'm noticing that I'm starting hoodies are.

[Big Parks]

For around the crib. To me. They're not for like outside. Unless it's like cold cold. Then you wear a hoodie.

[Flip]

But at what age you think we should stop wearing hoodies?

[Joe Button]

Walks.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if there's an age attached to it, but I just. Right now for me, I don't want to wear a hoodie around because you look like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't look like.

[Flip]

You don't want to look like a hooligan.

[Ice]

But that's what it is.

[Joe Button]

I make too much money to look like you.

[Big Parks]

That's all.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying.

[Flip]

I think a crew neck still has a little bit of hooligan. You get a lot of off. Why you don't want to wear hoodies?

[Big Parks]

Boxes. I just get an uncomfortable garment.

[Joe Button]

You got them.

[Ice]

You got them.

[Joe Button]

You got them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got them. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You got them. You absolutely got them. Parks cold switch switches, right? The hoodie code switch. I never even thought that he would say something bad about a hoodie just because of how many great times him and hoodies are there.

[Big Parks]

I've had a great time.

[Joe Button]

I'm just over it.

[Big Parks]

I want more crewnecks. I wish more people made crew necks.

[Joe Button]

Holy wow. Wow.

[Big Parks]

I think it's a better looking.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who is this guy?

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Ice]

Who is this guy?

[Flip]

Let's go. Box.

[Big Parks]

Crew necks are comfortable. Man, oh, man.

[Joe Button]

You hear your man? They are.

[Big Parks]

They. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't do it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Crew. Now. Some white people. That's what it is. We can't do that. White people.

[Big Parks]

The hair too, you know, with the hoodie and it gets off white.

[Ice]

Put the hood on.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, but it's going to end up there at some point.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. And that is our hoodie advice for you guys. There you have it. All right. What's important? What's not important? Where we going, where we start, and where we notice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, since we talking about dress.

[Ice]

Yeah, go on.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I don't care how long Meg and Clay have been together.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all threw me under the bus with that one, too.

[Big Parks]

Man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I been getting dragged for a week on that shit.

[Joe Button]

Mark Lamont. I don't care. No, you have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the thing is, I'm the one that likes Meg.

[Big Parks]

I miss what happened.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Apparently people think that I was, like, beating up on Meg the Stallion, or I was hating on her because I said I don't want their relationship to move too fast.

[Big Parks]

That sounds like hate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's because I want them to stay together. It's cause I actually like them.

[Joe Button]

Aw.

[Flip]

I believe in love at the time.

[Joe Button]

What a cutie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want them to take the time.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's all. That's all. But, yeah, I've been getting dragged for it.

[Big Parks]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

Rightfully so.

[Big Parks]

For the hate.

[Ice]

For the hate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So, Meg, just know I want you to be happy forever.

[Joe Button]

But we're. We're.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Should Jims have a dress code? Was we was going. Yes.

[Joe Button]

Oh, should the gyms have a dress Code. Lately, there have been women online complaining about the things that other women are wearing to the gym. That's hate they're talking about.

[Big Parks]

But carry on.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead. I forgot what room I was in having this conversation. Yeah, come on, y' all say no.

[Ice]

Hell no. To a degree, no.

I love it.

[Joe Button]

Y' all are lying.

[Big Parks]

I mean, nah. To a degree. I don't want to get chubby while I'm trying to fucking move some heavyweight.

[Joe Button]

To a degree means yes.

[Ice]

Yeah, I mean, I think there is.

[Joe Button]

There is a limit to what you should and shouldn't be wearing in the gym.

[Ice]

I disagree. I mean, as long as you not got your shit hanging out on those see through shit.

[Joe Button]

They're wearing see through shoes sometimes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't seen it as long as.

[Joe Button]

The influencer workout people are wearing. Whatever. This.

[Big Parks]

This is a different point now to me. You got to know what gym you're going to. There is gyms that you know are for the influencer types and there's gyms that you know are for people that are just trying to work out.

[Ice]

Yeah. When you see all her is purple, that should tell you when the got.

[Big Parks]

The LED lights and all the in there looking extra tick tockable.

[Ice]

She got that stand with the ring light in the gym.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a ring light in your gym?

[Ice]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

The one place you shouldn't be distracted or one of the places you shouldn't be distracted is the gym. It's like if you in there just fucking staring at people, women in particular or the opposite sex, then yeah, you look like a weirdo.

[Ice]

Oh, well, for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I said I just don't look.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you just want to be around.

[Ice]

Of course.

[Big Parks]

See, I have a different.

[Ice]

There's nothing wrong with looking. I mean, like, again, some niggas use that as motivation. Not me.

[Joe Button]

Do you look at Cameltoe when they got it out out?

[Ice]

I know.

[Joe Button]

That's a very direct question asked. No, because anyone in here look at camel toe out.

[Ice]

Let me tell you why. I'mma tell you why. I don't cuz you. I don't want to catch. I don't want to look at the camel though. You what the.

You know, you know, go ahead, get your off.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Ice]

Get your off.

[Joe Button]

No. You and your bed.

[Flip]

We'll get you.

[Ice]

But reason why though, all jokes aside, is I want to look up. And then now it's weird. Catch eye contact.

[Joe Button]

Wa.

[Ice]

Now it's weird if I catch a glimpse of the. That's. That's.

[Joe Button]

Then that's.

[Ice]

Peace but if I look at you and you looking at me and you see what I was just looking at now it's weird.

[Flip]

We look at the camel toe game.

[Ice]

I'm telling you, I try to not look at that.

[Flip]

Try to we look at the camel toe. But you don't want to speak for you.

[Ice]

I'm. I don't for that reason.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, when do you do it It?

[Flip]

Oh, I'm in the gym.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I saw him training.

[Flip]

Yeah, we got paid attention to this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw your video.

[Flip]

I flip on his neck regular, but when I get stronger, I'mma flip him in the air, throw him all around. He don't want me get.

No pause n. I've been to the gym. No, I've been. I wore something inappropriate at the gym. I thought you was getting at me. Like the. I had on them like flip. If you don't get the out of here. You got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just never took your hat off. I was just like this dude, don't take his hat off.

[Flip]

No, but also my hoodie. Like back to the hoodie.

[Joe Button]

Back to camel talk.

[Flip]

Gotta. Yeah, it's a palm be.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Cause you have enough of that. You have enough on this seat of that. My fault. Correct it with me. Correct it with me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Kenny got claws.

[Flip]

You correct me.

You right. Come on.

Me man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Correct my fault.

[Joe Button]

Mark, when do you look at camel talk?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't, I don't. I don't. When I'm in the gym, I try to just keep my eyes on what I'm working on. And I go to the gym. I try to go to the gym during the nine. Those nine hours. Like I try to go super early in the morning or super late at night. If you go to the gym at like 2 in the afternoon, that's basically to me like, that's when like strippers wake up and go to the gym. So like if you go to the gym, it's 6am Ain't nobody there but two.

[Joe Button]

It is important to know what time strippers wake up. She not dubbing you. She sleep. She sleep. She sleep, dawg. She woke up. She waking up at 6pm Right? And you'll know it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She gonna be on the gram first, right? So I don't go doing that time. So I ain't got worried about that.

[Big Parks]

See, I have a bigger, A bigger thing that we need to fix in the gyms is if you ban the camera phone, the cameras being out, you will dub all this issue.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree with that.

[Ice]

A thousand I'm with.

[Big Parks]

That's why I stopped going To a job. Built a gym in my house because, like, the podcast started taking off. People were taking pictures of me fucking working out and shit. Like, this is fucking weird.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't. I don't wanna.

[Big Parks]

I'm not doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you get judged and watched and shit. It's weird, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Because now I'm in here with my camel toe. You had a hoodie.

[Big Parks]

I've been here with my camel toe out. And you want to take pictures. No, I want. I want to work out in peace.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And everything takes longer in the gym when people got cameras on them. Even, like, the dudes, like, because they got to videotape every set they do, every rep they do. And so instead of it taking 30 seconds, it takes five minutes because they setting up the tripod to do a fucking bench press.

[Ice]

Yo, the fucking tripods. I be wanting to just kick the shits over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate them.

[Ice]

I hate them shits.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that should be the best.

[Joe Button]

You got to be able to scrap if you going to kick it over.

[Ice]

I can scrap.

[Joe Button]

All right. I'm just. Have you kicked. Have you kicked one over yet?

[Ice]

Want to see?

[Joe Button]

Don't say it to your friend and not the tripod, dude. Don't say it to me and not tripod, dude. I try not to look at camel toe, but if they forcing it, then it's like. There is a such thing as forced camel toe where they just stuffing it up there like. Ma, it's not that. Ma, it's not that.

[Ice]

Well, you sitting right there. She on the machine across from you. Come on, fam.

[Joe Button]

You could have, like.

Come on.

[Flip]

Yeah, we don't want to see that. Maybe we do.

[Joe Button]

Is she fine?

[Flip]

Maybe we do.

[Ice]

What you say? Is she fine? I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look. I don't know.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. But I'll say this. When you working out, when you be trying to work your body out, you.

[Joe Button]

Don'T know if people are fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't look at. I don't make eye contact.

[Big Parks]

He needs to know their personality.

[Flip]

Are you not allowed to compliment a woman and say that she looks good? Is that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's an interesting question.

Hey, yo, big M. Big M. Rude.

[Flip]

With an iron face.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I mean, first of all, the word allowed ain't in the thing, but.

[Flip]

Let me make it clear. Go ahead. She ruled out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I strictly forbid myself.

[Ice]

It's early.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Get the up. No, I don't. I don't. I don't do that.

[Flip]

Really? Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would be like, walk up to a woman in the gym and tell her she look good.

[Flip]

No, I'm just saying, like, would. No, not that. I'm just. Would you. Are you. To your wife if you had the bank.

[Joe Button]

If you had the bank teller, hey.

[Flip]

Tell your wife you have beautiful eyes or complimentary.

[Joe Button]

Hey, wow, your hair is amazing.

[Ice]

Nah.

[Joe Button]

How wow. Your skin tone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no and no.

[Ice]

Fuck, no. Really?

[Big Parks]

That could come off of it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Nothing. Fuck no.

[Ice]

Hell, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'd be like, you counted that money? Well, how many. Thank you. Thank you for the great customer service.

[Joe Button]

Your nails look nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, Nothing about her. Let's go. Appearance in my comment, would you tell your wife What?

[Big Parks]

If it's someone that you see regularly.

[Flip]

Even less so would you tell your wife?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause then it gets weirder. I mean, it would depend, like, if I knew her, and I was like, oh, Gertrude, you know, like, I see what did with your hair. Yeah, exactly. You had to go to Gertie, right? Gertie. Yeah. You know, but.

[Ice]

Nah, get that Gertie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's like Jamila. No, no.

[Joe Button]

All right, so I'm glad you brought this up. So how do y' all balance maintaining a healthy, happy relationship and. And. And the rules that come along with that, or the should and shouldn'ts that come along with that? And being a rock star.

[Flip]

Who's a rock star?

[Big Parks]

All of us.

[Joe Button]

All of us.

[Flip]

This nigga trolling.

[Joe Button]

I'm very serious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get what you're saying. Take rock star from table. I mean, to me, they kind of go together because, like, people don't. You could be a little distant, and people don't read that much into it. I'll give you an example. I was in a bar by myself having a drink. Like, maybe. And I almost never do that. Like, maybe. Like, maybe, like two weeks ago. And this woman came over and just started talking. And I never did the 90 degrees. Like, I never turned around. You know what I mean? I was like, oh, yeah, thank you.

[Flip]

Yeah, he left the crib. He freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then I would turn back to my drink. So. And after the third turn, I figured you get the hint. Because as soon. As soon as I go 90, sometimes.

[Big Parks]

They don't get the hit. My brother.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's true.

[Flip]

He was weird playing. What, nigga? He was at the bar by yourself. Like, don't skip over that.

[Joe Button]

What happened?

[Flip]

Was it Baby Malcolm, Them or kid at the crib? What happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sometimes I eat lunch by myself, but normally I sit, like, in the back. But I happen to sit at the bar this time. Yeah, yeah.

[Big Parks]

Y' all don't go to the bar by yourself.

[Joe Button]

This think he Frank Lucas.

And yes.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, go to the bar and have a drink, watch the game or something like that.

[Joe Button]

Salad. It's December.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't done it because I I. The neighborhood I don't like. I just moved to my neighborhood, so I don't know anybody. I don't know any of the spots in Philly. I would do that all the time. I just don't do it while I live down.

[Flip]

I did ask a question. Are you able. Do you compliment another woman to your wife? They say, oh, she was pretty?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Big Parks]

Hell yeah.

[Flip]

No, really, Mark?

[Ice]

No, that's the only time I get it off.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, really.

[Big Parks]

That's the safe way to do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is safe. I just don't do it. That's just not my thing. My wife would do it to me.

[Joe Button]

You could do it if you to about a dude. If you make the DMs in Viv visible vanish mode.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that a thing?

[Joe Button]

I heard them say it in the rap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yeah, they got too.

[Big Parks]

They got.

[Flip]

They got the disappear when scenes disappear 24 hours.

[Big Parks]

I heard them say that.

[Flip]

They got the options advantage mode. Boy, you gotta just flick it up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

You being there talking normal. Then the get freaky. She turning in advanced ro like, oh.

[Big Parks]

I'm in trouble now.

[Joe Button]

I better get out of here and start this thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I never heard of it.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's a new.

[Flip]

Don't do that. Mark is upstanding citizen.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. I'm crying in here playing with y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Flip]

Do you do that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like.

[Flip]

Like.

[Joe Button]

No, I don't do that.

[Flip]

He talks so fast. You got to correct me.

[Joe Button]

You got. You got to catch him back. You can't even let him finish the question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't. Whatever you talk about anything, whatever that.

[Flip]

Is, I don't know do it now.

[Joe Button]

You know what it is, is when. When I be in the DMs, like, I don't really know how to work that. I'll change the background. This shit will be all dark Vader.

This happen now. D Vader talking to you. It's like, no, I'm out the game for a reason.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm talking about the compliments. Do. Do you. Do you compliment the women?

[Flip]

He said?

[Joe Button]

Oh, 100%.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

He said it before he did it.

[Joe Button]

100%.

[Big Parks]

Especially if it's someone. If you go to a place all the time, a bar, a bank, a grocery store, whatever, you might have some level of kindness rapport with the person that you're dealing with. That's a Nice. That's a nice glasses.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Glasses, yes.

Different than glasses.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah. You know, that's a lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Body part you think about, you know, your hair, your nails, your feet.

[Joe Button]

I'm saying any compliment to someone is a conversation start.

[Flip]

Excuse me.

[Joe Button]

That's a beautiful bag. Excuse me. You killed this fit. I compliment people all the time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, those kind of. Yeah, those are okay.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, he fought away. What you talking about?

[Joe Button]

He fought away?

[Big Parks]

He's not gonna be like, yo, nice.

[Joe Button]

Tits, ma, don't freeze.

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying anything on her body.

[Flip]

Wow, look at that outfit. What is that, Balenciaga?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right. She turned around.

[Flip]

Oh, girl, you killing it now. When he said that. She's turning around slowly.

[Big Parks]

Ooh.

[Flip]

He got this whole shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. He's complimenting the way that, like, it's like Andre, like, what's his name? Tally, whatever.

[Joe Button]

Like, yo, his question was, can you compl Compliment a woman? He didn't say what kind.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but the first examples was like, your hair, your nails, your eyes. I'm saying I don't compliment none of that shit.

[Big Parks]

Eyes a lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Any body parts I'm reluctant to do. Your hair, I mean, like your bag. You killing the girl. Yes. Yeah, that's fine.

[Flip]

Have your wife ever told you that a man look cute? Oh, he's cute, Mark. He's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not out of nowhere. It'll come up in conversation.

[Flip]

Got it. Okay, I see what you're saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying? But she wants to be like, yo, look at him.

[Joe Button]

And men supposed to just know the. That they wife, right? You gotta just know that, you know, it should never come up, but it should be understood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's understood.

[Flip]

You know how you play it off?

[Joe Button]

Play what off?

[Flip]

If you see a. That you know that your girl may think is cute, and he's walking this direction.

[Joe Button]

Nothing to play off. There are attractive people in the world.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're just com.

[Flip]

So you're comfortable with. Is she allowed to stare and look. Is she allowed to look?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stare is not.

[Ice]

But I mean.

[Joe Button]

Like, let's be.

[Flip]

We not gonna say stare. But is she allowed to look if.

[Joe Button]

You know, where am I when she's staring?

[Flip]

Not stared look. I mean, not stare. Stare was too far.

[Joe Button]

Like, look.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you're allowed to look.

[Flip]

My wife called me looking at somebody in. In Target one time. She let me have it. Yo, and I was just. I wasn't even really even looking. And she let me have it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What was you doing?

[Flip]

I was not looking. She said I look. Linky told me I looked at that lady three times and that was not true. I looked once and it was crazy. And I looked the direction two more times, but not towards the lady. Lady.

[Ice]

It was something over there.

That's where the towels are.

[Joe Button]

How do y' all avoid looking when your algorithm gets in one of the modes where it's sending you nothing but the chicks that you would with the low follower amount? Like, I don't know how look.

[Ice]

That's where I do my look.

[Joe Button]

Figure it out. But how do y' all avoid that when the algorithm starts just putting that right there?

[Flip]

Well, first of all, some of their pages, some of their fensters be the low following amount. So you got to be careful with that. But you don't avoid looking. You just got to just look and just keep it pushing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do that.

[Big Parks]

What Instagram is for looking.

[Joe Button]

I got.

[Ice]

That's what the gram is for.

[Flip]

He got a trigger thumb. Like, like, like, like, like, like this. I think he got an automatic like myself over here, son.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo.

There'S been a few times where I have stumbled into pages and the two. The two likes be there and be.

[Flip]

You Bitch can have two followers. She can have two followers.

[Joe Button]

But the.

[Flip]

But the fatty.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He'Ll flip and four likes and two of them is him.

[Flip]

And is right there too.

[Joe Button]

Sometimes you stumble around those parts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, after. Usually after I leave your page.

[Flip]

Or is what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I know.

[Big Parks]

In between Conan o' Brien post. Yeah, exactly.

[Flip]

You must have been just watching piss and P got on your algorithm to see what is likes is Likes is different, boy.

[Joe Button]

Yo, y' all just. I got it. Make a new Finster. Now.

[Flip]

I'm gonna tell you a trick that Instagram did. Look, listen. Your Finster is attached to your main page. So if a person's following you, your finsta will come up as it's suggested to the person that's following you. It's the craziest shit Instagram is doing. They gotta be careful.

[Ice]

I'm good.

[Joe Button]

I don't gotta have it.

[Ice]

That shit just seem like too much.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's too much work. You feel like you. I don't know. I don't need one.

[Joe Button]

Nah, they make it really easy. They make it really easy. You shouldn't attach to create a new account. It take about three seconds and they put it right there on the bottom. You just double tap.

[Flip]

That's how they get caught.

[Joe Button]

And now you on your shit but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can'T you accidentally go from between your joint and main if you're stupid?

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Flip]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

Anything is possible in this world if you're stupid.

You can do anything you want. If you're stupid.

[Flip]

Stop liking, though. Stop, Stop.

[Ice]

You got offensive flip.

[Flip]

No, not anymore.

[Joe Button]

I did. I got offense flip.

[Erick Sermon]

Flip.

[Joe Button]

When Mandy and Bridget was fighting, and then Mandy did the live at 8 in the morning, and I needed to be in there, but I ain't want to be. Joe Button up in this piece.

[Ice]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Even though you know I'm in there, but. Right. Yeah. They shouldn't see it. So.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

For nothing else, I don't want to misrepresent myself where y' all want to start.

[Ice]

So we. We agree that the gym should have a dress code, though, just so we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no dress code, no phones. That's my final. Because what I was saying at the end was, like, you just to tie it up. Like, when you working on your body, you kind of need to. You need it to be tight. Like, if you're working on your thighs or your buttocks, you need to be wearing tight spandex. And I don't want to deprive people of the opportunity to work on their bodies.

[Ice]

I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

That's facts.

[Big Parks]

That's a good point.

[Flip]

Salute. Mark.

[Joe Button]

Nah, that's facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank y'.

[Joe Button]

All. Did y' all see Art Basel was in Miami this past weekend. Everybody was out there having a blast.

[Big Parks]

They were.

[Joe Button]

Were you guys able to catch any of the clips in particular? Busta Rhymes going into an event, talking to a fan who tried to play a prank on him and called him Tracy Morgan.

[Big Parks]

I did, too.

[Flip]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are we convinced that that was a prank?

[Flip]

No, I think somebody. I think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not. No.

[Flip]

Somebody told him that that was a prank.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I got the sense that the kid.

[Flip]

Somebody told the kid to do that.

[Ice]

Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think the kid knew.

[Big Parks]

That kid looked like he was all about 17, 18 years.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think he knows.

[Joe Button]

Somebody told the kid, and the kid said that. He said he told me to do that. That.

[Ice]

But I'm saying, did the kid still know or did he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying the kid didn't know what. I'm saying say that.

[Ice]

That's Tracy Morgan.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, I don't think. I don't know if the kid knew anything. When someone with a camera tells somebody that. Don't know.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They set him up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Or maybe the person that told him didn't know he was.

[Flip]

No, the person that told him. Knew the person we saw. The person that told him.

[Joe Button]

We don't have to waste time.

[Flip]

It's a content creator.

[Joe Button]

But Buster Rhymes is Art Basel. Art Basel. Michael Jackson, he's that famous at Art. Basil. Enough people know who Busta Rhymes. They were screaming while they was doing it. Hey, that's Busta Rhymes.

[Big Parks]

I was just saying. Just that a 17, 18 year old kid, respectfully, Busta hasn't been lit maybe in his lifetime, so he might not know that. That's Busta Rhymes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And also.

[Ice]

And Tracy Morgan is outside. Like you see him a lot. Wasn't even coming up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And just to be a little racist.

[Ice]

Not racist, but not racist.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Non black sometimes. Can't tell blacks apart sometimes. Sometimes people like the shit that we think looks totally different to people of a different race. Sometimes. And I do it too. People of race, totally.

[Ice]

But we gotta tell the truth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll give you an example. I was in a nail salon two, three days ago and a woman walked up to me and said, has anybody ever told you you look like Jamie Foxx? And I was like, no. Cause I don't fucking look like Jamie Foxx. Shoutout to Jamie Foxx. We just don't look alike. But I don't think she was being funny.

[Joe Button]

How old was she? Did she have cataracts?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she was like in her 50s, I think.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, she fucked up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But she. But she couldn't.

[Joe Button]

You don't look nothing like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. No, that's what we say.

[Ice]

I mean, y' all both went and got the shit, though.

[Big Parks]

Maybe that's what she meant. More like Michael J.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fox.

But that's what I'm saying. So, like, to these white people, maybe Bustin and the boy look alike, fam.

[Ice]

To some black people, they kind of look alike. Yo, let's stop.

[Joe Button]

Dog. Y' all know that there's a culture of people running up to people saying stupid shit. For sure. Y' all don't have to sit here with some people look alike. May. You didn't know? There's a culture of people running up to celebrities.

[Flip]

There's only one person that was doing that.

[Joe Button]

It's a trend. It's popular. That's what this is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, we don't need deep.

[Ice]

But it works when they kind of resemble. That's all. It works.

[Joe Button]

All right. Well, here's another clip of Busta Rhymes having a spirited conversation with a young fan. Spirit is a good one out in Art Basel. Oh, no, this is not the one I want here. We go. This the one right here.

[Big Parks]

Take a flick.

[Joe Button]

You take a flick for me.

[Ice]

I can't. I can't get one real quick.

[Joe Button]

Bron Bron's in the house. Real quick, Buster. Appreciate the love.

[Ice]

Let me give him.

[Joe Button]

All right. I'll see you later. Stay black.

[Big Parks]

You heard.

[Joe Button]

Stay black.

[Flip]

Stay black.

[Joe Button]

Bus. What else supposed to be.

[Ice]

You a clown now, too?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

N a clown.

[Joe Button]

What the you mean, stay black? That's my slogan.

[Flip]

It's all good that I ain't doing your photo.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Flip]

Have a good day, though. Happy, happy holidays and all that.

[Joe Button]

Happy New Year and all that. All right, all right, cool, cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was.

[Ice]

That's what I'm saying. Stay black is my thing, bro.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Flip]

No doubt, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, cool. All right, cool.

[Flip]

Have a good night, bro.

[Ice]

How about that?

That's some funny.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wasn't even coming off of negative energy, bro. No, I wasn't.

[Flip]

That's my slogan, bro.

[Joe Button]

Negative energy, bro.

[Flip]

Have a good night, though. Stay black. Have a good night.

[Big Parks]

See, I supposed to this. He doesn't. He doesn't appreciate this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I think after the first. That was right after the first situation.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yes.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

With me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. He thinks that again. I understand Bus's position on this. If you feel like the first thing was getting you, now you think everybody with you. You ain't really got no time for it.

[Ice]

And dude is with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dude slogan might be stay black.

[Ice]

Okay. But after that, then you said it again. Trying to be funny like you're.

[Flip]

You're.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're anyone get chucked by Buster in front of all them people. So you gotta. You almost gotta say it again and not look like a sucker. I get. Get it.

[Ice]

But I bust in person.

[Joe Button]

We got to unlearn stuff. You do. You don't have to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You didn't have to do that. You don't. I'm saying in his mind. I agree. You don't have to. You could have just walked.

[Flip]

He should have left it alone.

[Joe Button]

Bust Busta's zero tolerance. If we're not at Art Basel. Like, Busta is a zero tolerance celebrity.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it sounds that way. It sounds that way.

[Joe Button]

But that is.

[Flip]

You hear the stories about that. Yeah, he's zero tolerance.

[Joe Button]

And he just throw nigga down the stairs a couple years.

[Flip]

A couple years ago.

[Joe Button]

We never heard any more about that.

[Ice]

Nope. No, no.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Buster Rhymes.

[Big Parks]

Bust is one of the greatest. That being said, I don't know that you need to be. So let the kids be kids, man. It wasn't Disrespectful. It was.

[Flip]

They doing it and recording it to put it out. So sometimes you don't want to be on camera.

[Big Parks]

I think you could have made that a funny moment, the Tracy moment.

[Joe Button]

Some ain't funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Some have no desire to be funny.

[Ice]

Or at least like a lot of these. A lot of these content.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dude.

[Ice]

Ask me ahead of time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

You know what I'm saying? You just running up to me, putting me in your trying to play me. Making content off of me. Like, bro, stop playing with me. I don't know you.

[Joe Button]

Busta Rhymes was probably funny when Janet Jackson came to the. What's it going to be set.

[Big Parks]

I'm sure right around the Mariah Carey video.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But yeah, Janet Jackson in the 90s, I'd be dying. Rickles. Like.

Who the.

[Joe Button]

Listen, shout out to Busta Ryan.

And everybody that was at Art Basel. Hopefully y' all had a great time down there. Again, that's one of the reasons I just. I stay in the house because people have camera phones.

[Flip]

Art.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Basil Snake would be your vibe, though.

[Ice]

No, no.

[Big Parks]

I heard it's gotten very original.

[Joe Button]

Art Basel would be my vibe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't been in 10, 15 years.

[Ice]

Too late now.

[Joe Button]

And it. Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Ice]

It's not the same once some shit gets too lit.

[Joe Button]

Leave it alone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's.

[Flip]

Are you a.

[Ice]

No.

[Flip]

Nonsense celebrity, Joe?

[Joe Button]

No, no, not at all. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not gonna hit nobody.

[Ice]

No.

[Flip]

Not hit anybody. But we see.

[Joe Button]

You'd have to lay a hand on me for me to hit you.

[Big Parks]

If someone says, hey, Common, can I get a picture?

[Joe Button]

That's not gonna do nothing to me.

[Big Parks]

Carlos Boozer.

[Joe Button]

None at all. You're gonna laugh along with it, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look, it's Uncle Phil from the first. Like, you're. You're good with all that.

[Joe Button]

Yes, Mark.

But I'm gonna let everyone.

[Flip]

Uncle Phil, listen.

[Joe Button]

Fans are saying whatever they what Whatever they feel like saying to you. I could tell y' all a million stories about meat in a mall and the fans trying to get you to buy something from the cubicle.

And then they just start going crazy on you. And there's nothing you can do. You can't turn around and beat them up.

[Flip]

You stood there, looked at that like he was crazy and then just kept walking. I saw that. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I gotta look at him to just let. Let him know, dog, if there were a world where I wasn't famous, this would go. Go different. This will go different. Right. But I'm Joe told the.

[Ice]

No you know, you chase fans with rocks.

[Flip]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was thinking that I was gonna be the.

[Joe Button]

Freeze.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is bad.

[Ice]

I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm glad he said that. I also caught that car.

[Ice]

I caught that car.

[Joe Button]

Well, we caught the car. All right.

[Big Parks]

Teamwork.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't know you was there.

[Ice]

I was driving.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, driving.

[Joe Button]

Ice, my man. I love ice more than flip, dude.

But nothing happened when I caught that car.

[Big Parks]

Just knocking a little bit.

[Joe Button]

Just some threats. Just a knock on. I didn't break the glass. Y' all don't know how crazy I am. That's what it is. But, Joe, you don't worry. I'm interviewing my mom soon. I'm interviewing my mom soon. Y' all have no idea. Do you know all the things I'd have done to that car and those kids?

[Ice]

You was banging on the sunroof with the rocks?

Like it could have broke.

[Big Parks]

Classic.

[Joe Button]

What are you talking about?

[Ice]

I'm saying the class could have broke.

[Joe Button]

I Do. You know I lit my high school boarding room dorm on fire.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

To leave the school.

[Ice]

Of course.

[Flip]

I did some shit, too.

[Joe Button]

You know how many windows I done broke? Jasmine Sullivan ain't got shit on me. He's right. You know how many times sometimes I broke in somewhere.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

That I shouldn't have been. Picked a lock, stole a car, knocking on. Yeah, that's in the 90s.

[Flip]

He did it with the.

[Joe Button]

Jam him up. Jam him up. We had all types of. To get in your crib. Anyway.

Knocking on somebody. Window with a rock is the least of it. And that's kind of my point.

[Big Parks]

The classic moment.

[Joe Button]

And that's before everybody got to suing everybody.

[Flip]

Yeah, That's a fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact.

[Ice]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

That was just. Oh, these are young kids. Let me. Let me be an adult.

[Big Parks]

Let me chase them, teach them a lesson.

[Joe Button]

Well, no, I thought they was older when I chased them. When I caught them, they had that. That look in their face. That young person look in their face. Yeah, like the girl with the ass from far away. But then you get closer and she's just a baby. Like, her skin is just all young still. No. Sorry.

[Ice]

Yeah. It's not worth it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it's worth. I think it's nothing wrong with scaring young people so that they learn, like, not to do that. I don't know about chasing him down, but, like, what Busta did, for example, I think is cool. I mean, I just would have did it less aggressively. I would've pulled him to the side and say, look, you can't go on doing this shit to people. Blah, blah, blah. Like, give them the talk.

[Ice]

Reminds me of the.

[Big Parks]

I think you should have played into it.

[Ice]

Did the shit with Mayno in the mall a couple years ago.

[Joe Button]

That was way more than a couple years ago. Oh, yeah, we old.

[Ice]

Yeah, we old now.

[Joe Button]

That was way more than a couple years ago.

[Ice]

Somebody was doing some shit online. They was in Short Hills Mall. He ran up on him and just explained it. Get to him. Yo, yo, I was in danger. Don't even know it, right? You should stop playing with people. Because if I was on something else, we got you. And sometimes people need to know that. Yeah, what Buster was doing was cool. He was just a little bit like, I'm with you. A little bit too aggressive with it.

[Big Parks]

Right?

[Ice]

There's a way to do that. Yo, dog, just go play with it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because then you lose the high ground. Like, if you do too much, then you just.

[Ice]

Now it's like. It's right in the kid, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As opposed to. I'm trying to teach this kid not to do dumb.

[Big Parks]

I think you should have played into it. I could see if he caught him in the grocery store and was on that type of time. Time. That's totally different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's interesting.

[Big Parks]

But you're out at some event.

[Flip]

Have fun.

[Big Parks]

Personal opinion.

[Joe Button]

See, I think that's the time to do it. That's the time to do it. We add an event in the grocery store. I could laugh it off at an event. There's a million people around. So you wanted to make a spectacle.

[Ice]

Now you got one.

[Joe Button]

Because he was loud enough and projecting his voice enough for now. Surrounding hotels and passerbys and just anybody to see. And now that's enough. If you won't stop playing with me because I asked you to, maybe you'll stop doing it because a celebrity is embarrassing you. Just another way to look at it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's it.

[Ice]

I'm just glad he didn't do that. Stupid. Like, not, you know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Thank God it wasn't a staircase around. That have been the end of him.

[Big Parks]

Shout out to Buster, man. I think he's got an album coming out too, so.

[Joe Button]

Oh, great.

[Ice]

Shout out to bus.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Shout out to bus. Who else we got?

[Ice]

What else we got?

[Joe Button]

What else is happening?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Happening.

[Joe Button]

Okay, we got the white racist Cinnabon lady that got fired.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is my favorite kind of racism.

[Big Parks]

The ones I fired.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like the old school throwback, foaming at the mouth races. Not that subtle. You know, you don't belong Here, let me see your id. Do you live in this building? Racism. I like this kind of shit.

[Joe Button]

Here we go. Come on. Phone mean.

[Big Parks]

I am racist.

[Joe Button]

You are a. You are racist.

[Big Parks]

That's quick.

Don't be.

[Joe Button]

You ruin your life, by the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, talking about.

[Big Parks]

You're talking about respect.

[Joe Button]

You're talking about respect.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You are fired from this place. You're not going to be working here. Suck it. Look how you look like.

[Ice]

What's wrong with you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What the is wrong with you, you ugly bitch?

[Big Parks]

Ugly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Talking about ugliness.

[Joe Button]

All right, little miss White lady. That'll be your very last Cinnabon for the day.

[Big Parks]

You think she would cherish that job, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She. That escalated. It started because they came in with hijab on.

[Joe Button]

There's somebody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

And she just got right to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She went right to the racism. She was like, what the fuck are you wearing? Why? And just started going in when they said, hey.

[Flip]

Like.

[Joe Button]

Which has what to do with my Cinnabon order.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, Exactly.

[Joe Button]

I just wanted Cinnabon.

[Flip]

I just got to do mental health reevaluation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She didn't look well to me.

[Flip]

She didn't look worse.

[Big Parks]

Where was this?

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the other thing. People that work at Cinnabon. What?

[Ice]

Stop.

[Big Parks]

Shout out to the Cinnabon employees, man, not her.

[Joe Button]

You gotta know the companies that are hiring 15 year old kids that never worked anywhere or just crackhead racism.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's most of the companies now. Cause don't nobody want to work for pennies. Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you get.

[Ice]

So you gotta get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Bottom of the barrel. This is Wisconsin. Yeah. Cinnabon put out a statement.

[Big Parks]

She got fired.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, they fired the shit out of her.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Go Cinnabon.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go Cinnabon. And that's what I liked about it. They didn't say no equivocations and nothing that they tweeted it. They were like, hey, we're sorry, she's been fired. We're gonna work on it. Now. If I'm the Somalian lady I'm suing.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, you might as well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm getting paid from that shit.

[Big Parks]

Oh, for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can never look at a Cinnabon against.

[Ice]

I'm naming all that shit.

[Joe Button]

I can't sleep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, exactly. Nightmares, exactly, all of that. But I was just glad to see that kind of good old school racism come back. Cause people be forgetting. Acting like that shit don't exist no more. It really happens. And it happens a lot.

[Big Parks]

I don't like seeing that come back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What did you say?

[Big Parks]

I personally don't like Seeing that come back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, I don't like to see it come back. I like to see those examples.

[Flip]

Cause if he gets to say the shit he want to say, say yeah.

[Ice]

Going nowhere.

[Flip]

But let me tell you what, that's what he do.

[Ice]

They just made the park start making you pay to go in on Juneteenth.

[Joe Button]

And Martin Luther King Day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Martin Luther King Day.

[Joe Button]

Something else.

[Ice]

No, I'm just saying. But, but black things. That was related to black people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the racism is right there on Trump's birthday.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, of course, that's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's also Flag Day. But like, you know what? But it's because it's Trump's birthday. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Old school racism is coming back. I'm not happy to see it. I'm just happy that like we put a spotlight on it. So people. Because people don't be believing it. People think, yeah, we done overcame. We've had that conversation up here where people be like, yo, racism ain't really happening no more. And it's like.

[Joe Button]

And easily one of the worst takes ever given up here. But we'll talk about it later.

[Big Parks]

Yes. Fuck that lady.

[Ice]

Word.

[Big Parks]

Good riddance.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fuck that lady for sure.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I love Marcos.

We highlight more that I probably wouldn't highlight. Like, who's the lady? Who is this lady? Like just a regular lady and everybody. Racism ain't even important enough for me. Who. The Cinnabon lady. I gotta come to work and talk about this.

[Ice]

It was more of a Cinnabon response to it though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm really.

[Ice]

They jumped right out. And I'm with you there.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I would hope so.

[Joe Button]

And my whole morning he's gonna be doing that shit.

[Ice]

You're trying to explain it and offer her.

[Big Parks]

We gotta investigate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We can't reveal personnel matters. Find out she's still the manager.

[Joe Button]

Exactly. Administrative leave.

[Ice]

Well, not from Cinnabon, but you know how it go.

[Joe Button]

I did watch Mark's man this morning. Pierce Morgan, Piers Morgan interview. Nick Fuentes.

[Big Parks]

Why? More people that we shouldn't put light on, but go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, I just wanted to shout out Piers Morgan because of the job he did in the interview. Interview. Kind of.

[Big Parks]

Did he just cut it off as soon as it started?

[Joe Button]

No, he, he, it was, it was about a two hour interview and he played back all the homeboys clips for him in case he misspoke or wanted to readdress some things. And it was, it was interesting to listen to. It was.

[Big Parks]

I, I don't think we should give those Type of people any airtime whatsoever. Yeah, I think doing that is giving them gas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That I struggle with it. I. I see both sides of it, like putting them on air because somebody's gonna watch that and still get something from it. And.

It will do more for Nick Fuentes than it will for the enemies of Nick Fuentes. But there's also.

[Joe Button]

That's a matter of opinion.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

That is a matter of opinion.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it all comes down to how you engage the person. You know what I mean? You can't normalize the person. I think you gotta beat the shit out of them. And if you don't beat the shit out of them, then it doesn't work.

[Joe Button]

I think it's important for black people to go in black spirit spaces and tell people who down and who ain't. It's people that have no idea who homeboy is. I didn't know very much about him.

[Flip]

Me neither.

[Joe Button]

And with this whole political right wing upstart, young white people that they trying to just put in political places, important to say, hey, this dude's a racist. No denying it. And that's it.

[Big Parks]

I agree with that. I just think that sometimes it's like it can backfire and people can take the opinion of. Well, he's entitled to believe what he wants to believe. Like, that's.

[Joe Button]

But it's good to see.

[Big Parks]

I hate hearing both sides.

[Ice]

I don't want to.

[Big Parks]

I don't want to hear his side. I know enough. I've seen him wear a Nazi flag and I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, you have more info?

[Flip]

Yeah, I didn't know that.

[Big Parks]

I don't ever need to hear you speak again, quite frankly, like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or what you could do is not bring him on, but like, put his words up and then chop down his words. Like, you know, like play a clip of him and then break down why it's. And play another clip so he doesn't get to actually, like, be on the show, but people can find out why he ain't.

[Ice]

See, I think that I'm with Parks platforming racist, period. We just don't need to do it. But I think that that helps them because now that gives. That gives. Oh, I was taking out context. It was this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's interesting.

[Ice]

It was clickbait or, you know, now it. It'll make somebody want to go and hear you respond to that or, yo, let me hear you address what they just said about you over there.

[Big Parks]

I also think in a world full of people dying to get any Attention whatsoever. Giving attention to racists, no matter what their racists are getting against. Someone out there unfortunately, will see that and be like, oh, shit, he's on a fucking thing by saying this crazy shit. Let me say some crazy shit and get on a thing.

[Ice]

I don't.

[Big Parks]

I don't care for it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's interesting. Joe, would you.

[Flip]

And influence others. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's your line for what kind of person you would bring on a platform, either this one or a different one.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to bring anybody up here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fair, because I know you wouldn't bring on a Nick Fuentes, but I'm like, do you bring on, like, a. A Trump surrogate? Do you bring on, like, if Donald Trump wanted to come on, would you.

[Joe Button]

Would you?

[Flip]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Not at all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. And see, that's where I would be.

[Ice]

Like, bring him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's kick his ass.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Rhetorically. Yeah. I would want nothing to do with being in the same room with him. Should they try to kill me for interviewing Candace Owens? I remember.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And. And they tried to kill me for Rob o'. Neal. Rob o' Neal was the guy who.

[Big Parks]

Because what happened afterwards, I think more so than before.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Flip]

Was Rob on there?

[Big Parks]

Or maybe I'm wrong.

[Joe Button]

Well, they were saying that those things existed.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And I didn't know. It's tough, too, when you're in the interviewing business. It's kind of what Al B. Said about him bringing Al Adam to Marion. It's like, I didn't research. I don't know. I was looking for the exposure. That's what I got. I love the way I came off, but. Yeah, you're not. Everybody's not researching the people that they standing next to. Yes. That's a fact. That's what's going on out there. But no, I wouldn't not stand next to Trump. Yo, they all getting down. But they all getting down. See, that's where it is important to know who down. They all getting down. Like, they are like.

Like Sunday and Skydance just bought ufc, Right.

Important for me to know that those are MAGA crews.

[Big Parks]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They all down with. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Oh, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Because it could be covert in your face, but I like to know just who's down with who. I don't want to be the dead horse, but you know what I'm saying? And now it's time for my favorite poor prize picks. Yo, every time we about to do prize picks.

Right before.

[Flip]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe Button]

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[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y', all.

[Joe Button]

I can hear y' all brains.

[Ice]

I'm chilling, bro.

[Joe Button]

Let's see here the Joe and ice picks of the week. We're going with DJ Moore for more than 30 and a half receiving yards. I'm still on that Chicago Beers train too. Pause. C.J. strout for more than 219 and a half passing yards. The Texans train is going pretty fast as well.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

James Cook for more than 97 and a half rushing and receiving yards. And Trayvon Henderson for more than 63 and a half rushing and receiving yards. Don't forget to download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP for your chance to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. Only on price picks where it's good to be right. Speaking of football, real quick, let me hit the round of applause and say congratulations to everybody that made the fantasy playoffs.

[Big Parks]

I don't think I'm one of them.

[Joe Button]

I'm not in our league. I'm not in my money league. I'm the last team to make it.

[Big Parks]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

I got the seventh spot in our league.

[Flip]

You didn't make it?

[Joe Button]

No, I don't. I don't know. I don't think I did.

[Ice]

You was up there.

[Joe Button]

Record don't look the greatest. Looks hard.

[Flip]

Horrible.

[Joe Button]

But in my money league, I'm in.

[Big Parks]

Nice.

[Joe Button]

I needed a win. Hey, I squeaked in. I got Hampton back for the Chargers. I'm gonna see if I can make a late. A late season run, man. So shout out to all the fantasy people out there and the people that didn't make the playoffs. I know that hurts. I know it hurts. Yeah. Yeah, it hurts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Speaking of hurts.

[Flip]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Why does it hurt?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ice]

Because it's over.

[Big Parks]

Over.

[Joe Button]

Your season's over. You're done.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

If you have a competitive fantasy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Okay. Okay. Because he said, my money, I got Lord. No, he said.

[Ice]

Well, he says money league is a lot more money over in that league.

[Flip]

So. Okay, so it's money in all of them.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Got you a lot of money in the one. There's a lot of money over there.

[Flip]

Much.

[Joe Button]

But speaking of her, speaking of her.

We don't do contract talks up here. We don't pocket watch up here. I know. You know, not used to the new changes that we've made.

[Flip]

What new changes?

[Joe Button]

We support each other, encourage, empower one another.

[Flip]

All this kumbaya shit you've been trying to do. Listen, I'm not with it. I'm not with it. I don't like it. I'm not with it. And on top of that, it's just a. I'm just working on myself. But I would personally go against it and I don't want you. I'm being not like, I've been trying. I've been trying. You're doing a lot. You're doing a lot. As your brother, I'm telling you. Cause I love you and me and you improvise. You're doing a lot.

[Joe Button]

But you don't need to say your folder says this.

[Flip]

Yeah, but. Nah, but you. My folder says that, but you.

[Joe Button]

Your folder says that you react to things this way.

[Flip]

No, but it's still the unexpected. I still got some unexpected tricks up my sleeve.

[Joe Button]

Now you got to show it before.

[Flip]

The folder, so you better not.

[Joe Button]

Everybody has a folder. Yo.

[Flip]

Everybody has my folder. All our folders have been good. So let's, let's move. Yes. Speaking of hurts.

[Joe Button]

You think they're just, you think they're just tracking what you do on your, on your phone and that's it. They're tracking your interests, how you respond to things.

[Flip]

That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

What you purchase, where you go, how often you travel, how often do you use your credit card, what are your favorite foods, what do you like to purchase online. How often are you using Amazon? Are you married? How many women do you. They're tracking. There's a folder on each and every one of us, right? And the sooner you learn it, it the better you'll be. Sure enough. Sure enough. Speaking of hurts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stunk it up last night, so it seems that way. I, I, I woke up this morning and my, my timeline is obviously like has more Philly people. Yeah. So all I kept seeing was trade them, cut them, sit them down Bench them.

[Big Parks]

That's a lot.

[Joe Button]

But that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but that's very Philly.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I, I, I just assume that meant we lost, but then I looked and said, it turns out we lost three in a row. That seems like a big deal in.

[Ice]

The NFL and the way.

[Joe Button]

Like, that's a season killer, right?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that was a bad. That was a bad game for y' all last night.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Especially for Hurts. He stunk it up.

[Joe Button]

I think all three of the losses have been bad.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, true.

[Joe Button]

They've been pretty bad. This one, though, we said that last week about the Eagles.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it's always a hangover with Fam.

[Ice]

He had an interception and a fumble in the same play.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we've never seen that before.

[Big Parks]

That was crazy. What the fuck are we doing? That was crazy.

[Ice]

He threw a pick.

Then the other person, you know, the other team got it.

[Joe Button]

He fumbled, fumbled.

[Ice]

Hertz picked it up and then he fumbled.

[Joe Button]

Wow. And all of the fantasy pages said, this is the first time a player has ever gotten a minus three on a play according for the interception and the fumble.

[Ice]

Wow.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But the Eagles aren't very good.

[Big Parks]

I mean, they're not great, though.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to worst take. But yeah, the Eagles aren't very. I'm not even trying to shoot at you, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't care. I'm not that deeply invested. But it seemed like two. Like a month ago, people were saying they had the best offense in the league and the best offensive line and. No, they defense, they're really injured.

[Joe Button]

They're really.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that what it is?

[Joe Button]

There's a lot of injuries.

[Big Parks]

AJ Brown and Herz are not on the same page.

[Ice]

That's a big part of it.

[Big Parks]

He missed two catchable balls last.

[Ice]

They wouldn't run the ball at first.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I was like, yo, y' all have Saquon Barkley. And then he went the off.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Well, I wanted to talk about the Browns game specifically.

[Ice]

Okay, let's do it. We can do that.

[Joe Button]

Because I.

[Flip]

Tell me about it.

[Joe Button]

Shador got his start, had a magnificent game. Crazy 300, 350 plus yards. What did he have? Four touchdowns, I think so. He went absolutely crazy. The plays that people are talking about were going for the two point. The two points when you didn't need them, when you could have just kicked the field goal, which ultimately put you in the same position at the end of the game where you gotta go. In which they took Shador saying out of the game after his best game ever as a pro. And needless to say, they didn't make the two point conversion. Everybody was calling for Stefanski's job. I wanted to talk about it on a few levels. One, when there's a white person over you just doing everything to stop your success.

It was really bothering me.

[Ice]

It's obvious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that's what happening?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Well, if it were just this game in isolation, I would say that they're just trying to lose and they're sticking to the tanking program.

[Ice]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

With how the draft went with their season and how it went with them picking the Dillon kid and trying to put all the faith in him. Just their behavior throughout the season says that this is a sabotage.

[Ice]

We just don't want him to shine.

[Big Parks]

Which is weird. Cause why even draft him then?

[Joe Button]

Even that there are reports that didn't want to draft him.

[Ice]

Yeah, they didn't want to draft him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And I love that Shador had that game against the Titans. Like, listen, God always gonna have the final say. Like, it's just poetic. Him. Cam Ward, Cam Ward looking like shit. Stinking it up out there. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

This team is bad though. K.M. ward's gonna be good.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Game. Ward can ball. That team is bad. They fired their GM and coach. I believe in the first couple games of the season, like they're.

[Joe Button]

I'm for that argument.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Ken Ward's good. I just don't want to. On came Ward because I'm not shitting on him. The big ups.

[Joe Button]

Shador, if I were. But it's not just Shador. If they were doing a redraft, he probably would be the third quarterback taking.

Maybe.

[Big Parks]

Who. I don't know about that.

[Joe Button]

Cam, really?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Cam is nice. That team is not good.

[Joe Button]

Is he better than Jackson Dart?

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

If I. If I'm. If I'm. If I'm. If I'm Tennessee, I'm still taking Cam Ward with the first pick.

[Joe Button]

Okay, but you're ice.

[Ice]

Okay, so I am ice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where. Where does Shedeur's performance.

Positioned him in terms of like a redraft? In other words, like, if we were doing it all over again now, knowing what we know now, do you think he would move up to the first round, second round, third round?

[Big Parks]

He should have been a first or second round pick regardless.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ice]

It wasn't about the talent.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And just the poise of him. Like, we know his dad. We know that story. But for him to just not slip up in the interviews all season and they tried, for the most part, they tried to trip him up at every time, every time. Like he's handled himself with the poise of a veteran.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

So I think there is, there is stock to put in when you come from a family that is breeding and raising you to know how to handle all of these moments. Interesting to see what happens with Stefanski.

[Big Parks]

Moving forward, the whole team. Because part of me thinks it's even coming from above Stefanski where like the team doesn't want him to shine.

[Joe Button]

It may be.

[Big Parks]

So they might be telling Stefans he's a good coach, he's got a good track record.

[Ice]

Well, didn't they announce yesterday or something that he will be starting at least for the rest of the season?

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ice]

So at least now we know that.

[Big Parks]

That much I hope he gets traded somewhere else in the off season.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, me too. I want him to go somewhere where he can throw.

[Joe Button]

There were the reports that the Browns were asking for a second round pick for him. That's Pittsburgh, maybe Philly sound like no. All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Joe Button]

Moving right along. Moving right along. What did I do this weekend? I watched battles.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I watched battles this weekend. Got me a link shout out to all the battles that participated in the. In the big, big shindig out in Philly. This was for the Cassidy versus Easy, the block captain battle.

Did anybody see it?

[Flip]

I saw it.

[Joe Button]

I saw it.

[Flip]

Enough of it I saw.

Went.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I gotta say, when y' all write, y' all write. I mean, we talked about the kind of previewing it ahead of time and we talked about how Cassidy was killing him on the lead up and how he was, he was biting him on social media.

[Ice]

That's what he does.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then he said, but if he goes in there and he's the Cassidy from 2000 and whatever y' all say three, three, then it's not gonna go well.

[Flip]

But before we say that though, even if the bars seem outdated, what he was saying the first round to me affected Eazy and made me want to hear a second from him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cassidy about the crack shit.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Flip]

I wanted to hear his second and.

[Joe Button]

About easy to block captain's brother. Yeah, I wanted to jail.

[Flip]

He left that space. But that was a tricky angle to take. But he left it open for me to want to hear more. I don't know who told him to do it like that. Cause usually when they're taking that angle to diss your family, they do it in the last round, right? X Lux. That's this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cassidy was going arsenal.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Cassidy was. He was leading up to something. But I think easy to block captain was too I think they both had. I disagree with y'. All. I think they both had really strong first rounds. And I. I do. I give it to easy.

[Ice]

I give it to easy.

[Joe Button]

I give it to easy. But Cassidy's first round was a lot better than I thought it would be. I do see a lot of people saying his aggression and what he was saying. Saying it played a part. What I'll say when I was watching it.

Cassidy.

[Ice]

Right.

[Joe Button]

For all y' all say about him with the 03 and the outdated, Cassidy is an absolute mega star in the battle rap circuit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Ice]

Yeah. But I think a lot of that don't come from the actual battle.

[Joe Button]

But he is a mega star and it doesn't need to.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

We in this era today with all these influencers, TikTok, yada yada. Y' all niggas don't are not recognizing star power when you see it. And it just don't have to. It don't always have to be at the Beyonce level. Cassidy is Eddie Murphy in the battle rap sector. He's got a bunch of hits. He pulled up in the Rolls Royce. He's got Freeway standing next to him. Philly seem to be behind him.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

He looked great. He had a fucking hoodie on. He looked like a super duper star.

[Ice]

He looked like you supposed to be.

[Joe Button]

Before he said a word. Before he said a word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what he supposed to do.

[Joe Button]

Why is he even here talking to this guy?

[Ice]

I'm with you. He showed up exactly like he was supposed to. I'm with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did. He did. And I agree with you. His first verse was way better than I think people thought it would be. And it was better than. I didn't dislike it. I just still think Eazy got him in the first round.

[Joe Button]

Same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And to me, if you went go that personal in the first round, I now the streets say the second and third versus was crazy that Cassidy was gonna come with. That's what people are saying. You know what I mean? He never got a chance to get him off, obviously. But I thought that personal shit was an angle I didn't expect from him.

[Flip]

Here was my problem with it. I thought it was great. Exactly. I felt like because Eazy might have got offended or was in his feelings, in my opinion, that I just felt like Eazy should have just when Cassie said, yo rap over there. You know what I mean? Step back, back easy Chose to say n I'mma be in your face.

[Joe Button]

I thought that that's a Cassidy win. That is a Cassidy win.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say more that's, that's.

[Joe Button]

That's back to having. That's, that's back to having experience and knowing the fundamentals of the game.

[Flip]

Like how to work it, how to work the heckler.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Easy had more to gain from this battle. Cassidy's Cassidy already. If Cassidy is asking you, yo, please step back, stop spitting on me. Easy got two rounds that he's dying. Two more rounds. He's dying for people to hear. He can't wait to get these out.

[Flip]

If.

[Joe Button]

If the, if the result is going to be there is no battle now. Cuz they were already fighting time restraints then I think that hurts Easy more than it hurts Cassidy.

Cassidy left there, took 100 and went to the second Philly location to try to b where they were filming Eazy pull up in a Suburban and pull off. See, there is aesthetics. Could win you and lose you this thing. It don't matter what Cassidy had to say in the next two rounds, I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Heard two different stories about what was going on there. Now obviously Eazy's version of it was I wanted to battle him in the next location. First we said just me, you and our security.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cass said no. Then he said, just me and you. And Cas said no. I'm not saying that's true, but that's easy.

[Joe Button]

No, I heard that too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh yeah, I heard it too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, if I'm Cassidy. Nah, dog, with whatever was going on over there is going on over here. I have people flying for this battle. I got my cousin I ain't seen in 20 years. I got my. With me. We going in here to battle and.

[Ice]

There'S a lot of people.

[Flip]

There's a lot of people.

[Ice]

I'm with Castle now and.

[Joe Button]

And we in Philadelphia.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm with Castle and there's a lot of people. Why not just continue to battle where we at?

[Ice]

No, because.

[Joe Button]

Well, we couldn't.

[Ice]

We couldn't there. We had to leave here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm saying because of fear of violence.

[Joe Button]

So if we have all our time restraint.

[Ice]

Yes, true, but what I'm saying is.

[Joe Button]

And Easy walked off first. But part of. But look.

[Ice]

Yeah, part of what I'm doing is showing that I got all affiliate behind me.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's part of it.

[Ice]

You don't know what he had in the lines. And you don't have like in verses.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Ice]

Yeah, it's all a part of my shit. And they here with me.

[Joe Button]

Raps ain't the only thing that could win or lose you a battle. When I woke up the next day after that Battle ended, I saw nothing but bad rappers kicking easy to ball captain.

[Flip]

Yeah, back it same because the people, first of all, there people complaining that Easy put in his contract, they. They couldn't get in the building.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a lot couldn't get in the building.

[Flip]

There's a lot of things that just look crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I, I was easy on that one though, bro. If it was a list of people that said, I'm going you up when I see you.

You. You want to have him stand up behind me while we battle.

[Joe Button]

Yes. See a battle rap. You can't, you can't. You can't take that position.

[Flip]

You can't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why? Tell me why.

[Flip]

It might be ignorant what we're saying, but you just can't. You just need to.

[Ice]

That could be used against you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I take that in battle rap.

[Ice]

Where you supposed to be looking like super thug gangster nigga. You already make certain moves like that.

[Joe Button]

Look, you already in here with your security. That looks away.

[Ice]

That looks away.

[Joe Button]

Now you're banning people. Some of those people did not say, we want to inflict violence on you. You just got a list of people that you don't want in the building.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you don't. Yeah, that's true.

[Flip]

For the battle.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't want the shields in there, right? Like, yeah.

[Joe Button]

For the battle in your hometown. Yes. That does come off a certain way. And I saw plenty battle rappers saying, if I was in my hometown, I'm finishing a battle no matter what, no matter where. In my hometown. You couldn't finish a battle in Philadelphia.

[Ice]

Well, that was part of the again casting you. You and I don't know this, but you ain't really from here.

[Flip]

From pots.

[Ice]

You said you from up there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And I'mma show you. And I'mma show you you. Cuz Philly's with me.

It's different.

[Joe Button]

When you heary started cooking on that topic in, in, in, in round one, he. He definitely was addressing it.

[Flip]

No, he body that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the crowd, I mean the crowd was behind cast for sure. But it wasn't like E wasn't getting love when he was spitting his verse.

[Joe Button]

He smoked his verse.

[Ice]

Yeah, I gave him the download.

[Joe Button]

Let me update him, update him down bandwidth. He was. He. He got into his own.

[Flip]

He digging in.

[Joe Button]

The result. Ain't nobody say the boy can't rap. We just question your background and decisions you make.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is all fair. Which is all fair.

[Joe Button]

Especially in hip hop.

[Flip]

In order to advance the culture. Cause it's gonna always be at a standstill if we keep having Situations like this, I feel like they should finish the battle. I feel like sometimes you gotta put your pride aside. Cause I've watched people on stage in big battles say, you know what? I stand right here. I watch people go at it. Whether it was Rex, whether it was Clip that. You say, okay, okay, okay. Cause they wanna finish the battle. You do that, you just put another stain on it. And you just show that the diva behavior is not wanted in battle rap. Not only that, especially coming off of the fallout with URL. And now you not with. It don't look like you rim behind you anymore. It's just all the cards are stacked against you. So you should want to finish the battle. Do your best that you can do. So niggas could just say, regardless of what he went there and killed, yo.

[Joe Button]

You know, I gotta shout out all the people that actually went to that battle. I gotta shout y' all out. Anytime I see people that love hip hop enough to go to a space where nothing but cocks are showing up with no food.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

And just stand for event started at noon or some shit. Luck was in me all day. Lux was in me all day long to come to the Watch party. Sorry, Lux. I was doing something. He looked like he had a great time.

[Flip]

Yeah, shout out to Lux.

[Joe Button]

I saw a fucking asap. I saw a few niggas go over there, but damn, what was I saying?

[Ice]

You said shout out to people. That's actually going to.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. Y' all standing up. No food, no women for hours. Sorry, buddy. I don't love it that much. We gotta get. We gotta find a way to get some girls besides Ms. Hussle to be at these battles. And Jazz. Shout out to Ms. Hussle and Jazz. That's.

[Ice]

I'm host. I'm hosting a battle this weekend.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Ice]

And not Trenton.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ice]

Yeah. My brother's battling Vixen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's o.

[Joe Button]

That's going to be good. I love Vixen.

[Flip]

Yeah, I love it, too.

[Joe Button]

I absolutely love Vixen.

[Ice]

I'll be down there this weekend.

[Flip]

Vixen.

[Joe Button]

Fire. Did you read Arsenal's verses?

[Ice]

No, I don't Never.

[Joe Button]

I never did what he's going to say.

[Ice]

Never. I never hear his verses before his battle.

[Joe Button]

That Vixen lady ain't no. That lady. He knows.

[Ice]

He know.

[Flip]

Okay, well, you know they said Austin will be jazz.

[Ice]

Yes. 30.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they do say that.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So, yeah, they said that. Listen, shout out to everybody. Shout out to all the battle rappers, man. Yeah, go ahead, Cook. I Want to. I knew it was bad. I went to battle one time. They had ring card girl. The girl came out, said round one and got in her. Her car.

[Flip]

Oh, I was dead.

[Joe Button]

She came out, did like this. Hey, round one to hit them keys.

She got the out of there.

[Flip]

But she battled official in that.

[Joe Button]

I know you told bring back ring card girls.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ain't a bad.

[Joe Button]

That'll spice this up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, they need something. What are the odds that this thing gets redone?

[Joe Button]

It's over, buddy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. It ain't happening no way.

[Joe Button]

I don't say that this ain't happening.

[Ice]

I don't see it.

[Joe Button]

You're done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm really disappointed.

[Flip]

Point Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you. Do you.

[Flip]

Do you suggest that easy work it out with URL and try to get back in that fold?

[Joe Button]

No, I don't suggest anything that could help somebody.

I'm. I'm with you.

[Flip]

Why you just me?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not.

[Joe Button]

I'm not sitting there. I'm not into giving good advice for free. If we're not friends. Those days. Those days are over. Hey, keep fighting.

Be a disruption. Stand on your rights and your principles. Yo, street rules. Yo, street rules. Yo, street rules. Don't make up with these companies easy.

[Flip]

If you want to battle rock.

[Joe Button]

I don't think street rules.

[Flip]

You want to battle rock. You saying, man, go work it out with smacking them. You go take a couple of other battles and work it out, bro.

[Joe Button]

What else? What else is going on out here? New music this week. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You saw that track?

[Joe Button]

Listen. Yeah, the Nas track list.

[Ice]

Excited, bro.

[Joe Button]

One.

[Big Parks]

One feature.

[Ice]

One feature. And it's the only one he need.

[Joe Button]

Yep.

[Ice]

Not that he needs it, but that's.

[Big Parks]

That's what I want. Yeah, that's what I want.

[Joe Button]

I'm hyped about this.

[Ice]

I'm not going to hold you. I'm hyped.

[Big Parks]

Me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I seen you hype about a Nas album.

[Joe Button]

Has me.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, man, he's been on train for a minute with all the hit boy records and all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

New Nas, new Nas, new Nas, new Nas open on all of that. This is.

[Ice]

I was telling Parks earlier, man. This is the year the old record rapper. They watch rappers been putting belt that ass all year long. They have like from the mainstream, the underground, wherever you want to look independent. It don't matter. The. The older generation rappers are showing you how to do it.

[Joe Button]

And old producers.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah, I want to just. Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

And old producers.

[Big Parks]

That Eric Sermon duets album or whatever it's called is fire dynamic. Duos, I think it's called.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I heard. I didn't hear you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's really good on there.

[Joe Button]

I got to check it out. They got a album is incredible.

[Big Parks]

He got a song Pepper record.

[Joe Button]

That's dope. Oh, yeah.

[Ice]

Really?

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. Look at them being friends again. Oh, no, they was friends.

[Big Parks]

They was friends.

[Joe Button]

It was that DJ they got away from.

I think that's so up. So up. Let me mind my business.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But they back together again, too.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, they are. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah. She was at the.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Big Parks]

The Rock and Roll Rock.

[Joe Button]

They need a Breakfast Club interview.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That wouldn't be.

[Joe Button]

They need something for us to notice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, they. They was on Jennifer Hudson recently, too. They did the Spirit Turn together, all three of them.

[Joe Button]

I said a Breakfast Club interview. These guys trying to get me to tune in to J Hud.

Which I do sometimes, too. What else? What else?

[Flip]

What else?

[Joe Button]

So Nas track list. Nas album is out Friday.

Speaking of loving bars, man. These two.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Button]

These two. No better example of it. What else? We got? 21 Savage is dropping this Friday.

[Big Parks]

A surprise. No longer a surprise album is coming out.

[Joe Button]

This is going to be crazy.

[Ice]

He don't miss.

[Big Parks]

His albums are always.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't miss.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but this is going to be crazier than whatever it is. Mey called me a few weeks ago. Actually, he called me over a month ago. Oh, you better have the tea. I was dubbing him, you know, phone tag. And when I finally got to him, he was like, yo, well, I do wanna let you hear some of this 21 album that's coming. And I was like, when's it coming? He didn't tell me. So I thought he was just working on some shit and wanted me to hear some music. But what he was saying was, when people do that, when people start calling a few people to say, confident, hey, you should hear this.

[Ice]

They know.

[Joe Button]

You should hear this before it comes out.

[Ice]

Them phone calls let you know.

[Joe Button]

He was saying, I think this is gonna be something really, really, really special for 21. And I said, I get to. I'll call you next week, but here we are. So I do think that it's going to be one of those ones just because of how me sounding on the phone.

[Big Parks]

It's called what Happened to the Streets?

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. Tell the truth. Yep. Yeah, tell the truth.

[Erick Sermon]

And.

[Ice]

And who else would do it? Like, who better?

[Big Parks]

I love to, you know, he tell you.

[Ice]

He tell it like it is.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. You do?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. The Streets is done. Somebody said, say it.

[Big Parks]

You just did.

[Joe Button]

Well, somebody Else say it cosign. Yo, the streets are done, man.

[Flip]

The rules of it is, you know, but streets ain't done. It's just. It just changed.

[Joe Button]

Tell me more.

[Flip]

It just looks. It looks different.

Streets are still the streets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think a lot of people are.

[Flip]

Just doing things crimes differently.

[Joe Button]

And it's just.

[Flip]

And we're getting older.

[Joe Button]

Who are the new. That's right. You're right. We all getting older. So that's why. Who are the new success stories from the streets?

[Flip]

Good question.

[Joe Button]

Like, and you're a great person to ask. You. You run around and you have these conversations. So it's like, do you ever hear any and just be like, yo, I'm into that?

[Flip]

No.

[Big Parks]

Well, you support the.

[Ice]

I just think it's more. More. More information being gathered now. Like I was telling Mark earlier, a lot of people be so hyper focused on the streets, and then once they get outside of the streets or they get into some other rooms and they realize how small that world really is. A lot of them rules and stuff that only apply to the streets once people escape the streets realize it don't.

[Flip]

Would y' all say Pop Smoke would have been the last person that came from the streets?

[Ice]

That.

[Flip]

That was.

[Joe Button]

I don't. I don't call Pop Smoke a success story.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Really.

[Flip]

He can't.

[Joe Button]

He died at 22.

[Flip]

But he was. But he was.

[Joe Button]

And I don't know how old he was.

[Ice]

He was on the way.

[Flip]

Rest in peace. Okay.

[Ice]

He was on the way. I do think had Pop Smoke not.

[Joe Button]

Wait, hold on. Wait.

[Flip]

You don't think Pop Smoke was successful?

[Joe Button]

Pop Smoke was one of my favorite rappers. One of my favorite rappers. One of my favorite rappers to come out of New York. Somebody I think would have totally dominated had he had. Had his life not been. He was 20. Exactly. He was 20. It's tough for me to say success stories got you. The streets ended you at 20. 20. That's something to cry about to me. Like, that's a. That's. That's. Yeah. Nah, that's not. I can't. When I say success story, I'm talking about give me the.

Well, we talking about the new people. So give me somebody that's 40 back. 40 and up.

[Flip]

French Montana.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I would say him.

[Joe Button]

Well, even then you going back. You still going 15 years. Yeah, yeah. Longer than.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, longer than that.

[Joe Button]

Way longer than that.

[Flip]

You're right, Joe. So when you say the streets is done, are you talking about what. What we idolized, what we held high? The standards that we held pertaining to the Streets.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. When I say the streets is done, I guess what I'm saying is, is we've, we've, we've learned more.

[Flip]

But that's being, that's being overshadowed by what's going on, you know, just people cooperating. It's being overshadowed by just people just doing slimy stuff. And it's on your, you know, it's in your face. Before, it wasn't like that you would hear these things and you hear about it.

[Ice]

You know, we have access to more information too.

[Flip]

Of course we do.

[Ice]

You know, now every, you know, you would hear things before. Wasn't running around posting paper paperwork before.

[Joe Button]

No. Even that. You read it. I ratted. Who ratted? Conversation to me is very low level street. It's a very low level street conversation. It's courier. You're a courier. You're. You running around. I went to jail. You went to jail? I went to jail. All right, so it's a bunch of niggas that just keep going to jail. Where's the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where'S the success Hit real quick.

[Flip]

I'm hearing that a lot. Like I'm just telling you that I went to Boston and just spoke to somebody pertaining that from the Genovese family. And he was saying that even though I committed these murders, I told. Because one, I was facing the death penalty. Two, I was thinking about my children. And I looked at him and I said, well, before you decided to cooperate, you were the same person that's on record saying that you, you killed or attacked people that was snitching. So, you know, but he, like he stated, once you be put in a position, he said to me, once I found out the people that I was working for were cooperating, I had 305s or I forgot what he was telling me. I realized that the streets was a myth. That's what he said, man. He's an old mobster. But even that to me is like, I think that we look at things from two different playing fields. That's just me.

[Ice]

I don't think it's a lot of people. Let me be very clear with my words. There are still people that will stand tall. I don't think that number is as high as he said.

[Flip]

It's like one out of 100, like a one. He said it's a very small percentage. He said, look at where they at now. They're doing life in prison while I'm here with my family. But I still think that's a slap in the face. Me, my personal opinion.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I get it.

[Joe Button]

But.

[Flip]

I think that that telling or putting down the streets, principles and morals is at an all time high right now. Because we're privy to more information. That's why I think that we are.

[Ice]

When I look at anytime I hear the street conversations, I just think I want people to just unlearn the streets. Like, we are all parents, we got kids. Do you want your kids growing up worrying about street codes and shit? No, we don't. I don't. I know a lot of people that you wanna protect your kid? I want my kid to live a life that you not even concerned with, that the streets. But that starts with us unlearning all of that shit. A lot of people put so much value in the streets. The streets, the streets, the streets. You don't live in. You ain't. You ain't in the streets.

[Flip]

You're right.

[Ice]

None of your people's in the streets no more. Why do you care about the streets so much? That's why I wanna ask folks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I think part of it is realizing that some of those values that we associate with the street can be found in other places. You know what I mean? Like you can tell your kids not to tattle without being like, don't be no rat snitch to get you. Get what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Like there's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We can. Because I think part of why people hold on shit to the streets is because we appreciate those values like loyalty, honor, respect.

[Ice]

That's the myth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but that's my point. Those values just in other places. You don't gotta be a dope dealer to have those.

[Ice]

Lamar, let me be clear. I'm telling my kid the title.

[Flip]

But hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Those values, you already know that.

[Flip]

Those values that Mark are talking about, those values came with respect. Those values came with you being put on a pedestal. Those values came with any building you walk in. People would tip they hat to you. You can come like, those values came with something. And if you're a person, person from, I don't want to say poverty, but living how certain people live or from the neighborhood you look up to that you want to be that. You want to walk in the room and gain that respect. Because that's our environment, right? That's what we surround ourselves with. I'm pretty sure if I was somewhere in pristine or whatever the, you know, and I surrounded myself with something different, I will look towards something different.

[Ice]

But that's what happens when you're somewhere different.

[Flip]

And the person or the people that stand tall, that hold morals, that hold, that will Hurt whoever they, you know, whoever plays with them and people just respect them. You want to be in that position.

[Joe Button]

There'S other ways to gain respect. Yeah, there's other ways to gain respect.

[Flip]

There are other ways to gain respect. But I agree with Freezeman. You see, you have to unlearn that. When that's embedded in your brain. It just sounds like experience equals wisdom to me. Like, the more you experience, the more wisdom you gain. But if you're not gaining experience, if you're not in different environments, you're gonna just look at something from the same tunnel. And I think sometimes we chastise or we maim people because they look at things from the street instead of showing them ways to unlearn it. If that's all you see and that's all you know. If you're not open minded or going somewhere else or being in environments like this with somebody, you can watch your man and he can teach you like, yo, this is a different side again. It's money and becoming rich of just sticking to it. If you're not open, if you're not not surrounded by that, you're just gonna have one view. So do we shut them out or do we try to teach them? Do we say, yo, the shit that you guys are upholding is wrong because the streets is a myth? Or you try to just show them a different way?

[Joe Button]

It's not wrong if that's where you want to be. If that's where those people want to be and they don't have plans on leaving, if they don't have plans on spending every birthday, every one of their kids birthdays with them at flights. Like, if they cool with all of that, then no, I'm not just wasting time just fucking talking. But when I talk to street niggas now, and that's, that's. It's maybe 5% of the time. See, it's also that, right? I'm just. This is word salad now, but I feel like I speak about street nigga morals, codes, values and principles way more than I should. I'm not around street niggas enough. I have this conversation just with regular people. It's like, what the fuck am I talking about? Talking about, yeah, 1, 2. The street I talk to today, like on the phone. Joe, how you doing? How's your family? How's your mom? Everything going good? Take care of yourself. Eat right. None of that be healthy. Yo, I love what you're doing out here. Yada, yada. The other night I went to. I don't want to Say they judge me. I. It. I went to three strip clubs in a row. Three strip clubs in a row. Was a hot. It was a hot Saturday night in New York. I'm intentional with where I go. So I went to the first one. Too much of a crowd here for me. Right? But before I could leave, at least three of them niggas who I just seen. I ain't me the whole night made it a point to come up to me and say, yo, I've been listening to you for years, but I've been seeing you in here for a while. You always by yourself. You move with respect, like, you cool. You don't bother nobody. You being your own word, your own zone. And I just wanted to. I had to come to tell you I respect that. That happened at the next spot I went to, and I left there fast, too, because I ain't trying to be around all these, but there's just other ways to. I didn't have to kill anybody.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I didn't have to stab anybody. I didn't have to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't have to survive.

[Joe Button]

I didn't have to go do. Do 15 years. Like how you carry it. Can. It'll do it.

[Flip]

I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

I know you're not trying to.

[Flip]

I am.

[Joe Button]

You love all that street.

[Flip]

I'm with you now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now.

[Flip]

I'm with you, bro.

[Ice]

I think flip is there now.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You got to leave that alone, man.

[Joe Button]

You know, I watch old movies now. Just. I pick a movie and just watch it. So last night's was American Gangster.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Classic Denzel. Killed the out of ID street, bro, @ daylight, and nobody ever said nothing about.

[Ice]

It. Went back and finished his.

[Joe Button]

Breakfast. Yeah. In the little diner by himself. Like.

[Ice]

Mark. Yeah. Said, hold.

[Joe Button]

On. I don't know if I registered that the first time I watched it, that this never came up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again. Did you start.

[Joe Button]

Boardwalk? Not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yet.

[Joe Button]

Okay. I plan to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. People say he's gonna start Boardwalk Empire. He never seen it.

[Ice]

Before. I might.

[Joe Button]

Start. And what's the other one? Potluck roast. What's the other one? Pinky's Finger.

Blinders and Boardwalk.

[Big Parks]

Empire. You need to watch morning.

[Joe Button]

Show. Yes. Yeah, that one I did start. That shit's fine. Morning show is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Amazing. Morning show is.

[Joe Button]

Amazing. It is. It.

[Ice]

Is. I'm so glad y' all are watching.

[Joe Button]

It. I think Mayor Kingstown is really heating up. I want to remind everybody out there that's watching it that it ain't but two episodes.

[Flip]

Left.

[Ice]

Damn. Is.

[Big Parks]

It? Yeah, it might.

[Flip]

Be.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Oh, that was episode.

[Ice]

Eight. That was.

[Big Parks]

Eight. Well, they're turning up a little.

[Joe Button]

Bit. So that me up when I seen episode eight, I said, damn, this flew by. And they turning up every chance they could do.

[Flip]

It. How many seasons this.

[Joe Button]

Is? Is.

[Big Parks]

4. 3 or.

[Joe Button]

4. 2 episodes left. I think this is the best season that they've ever.

[Ice]

Had.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Agree. Pretty.

[Joe Button]

Clear. Agreed. The finale is going to play a big.

[Big Parks]

Part.

[Joe Button]

Facts. But I don't see a way they could blow the finale. I got multiple. The brother's dying. That little black security guard that.

[Ice]

Mikey talking to, he's out of here. He's out of.

[Joe Button]

Here. Yeah. It's going to be some jets. He.

[Ice]

Just. He too sloppy with it. They. He's out of.

[Joe Button]

Here. I mean, he don't have but so much. It's not but so.

[Ice]

Much. He.

[Joe Button]

Do. And he found out the.

[Big Parks]

Drop. Yeah. Warden's gonna be on to that.

[Joe Button]

Quick. Yeah, the warden was just in a bathtub pissing on.

[Big Parks]

Herself.

That was a little bit much for.

[Joe Button]

Me. But, I mean, no, that's natural. That's what's gonna happen. That's realistic. That's what's gonna.

[Ice]

Happen. She ain't expect that. That slammed up.

[Joe Button]

Ice. When you got robbed, did you. Did you do.

[Ice]

It? No, I didn't. Did you those either.

[Joe Button]

Time?

[Flip]

No. What the is going on? Okay, stop with these low.

[Joe Button]

Blows.

[Flip]

What? Stop with the low.

[Joe Button]

Blow. I'll know if you peed a little bit. No, it's not a low.

[Big Parks]

Blow. Well, it is, but if you throw, pretty.

[Joe Button]

Funny. If you throw me in the bathtub, though, with my hands tied, it's.

[Big Parks]

A safe place to pee.

[Flip]

Yourself. By the way, dog face, of.

[Big Parks]

All the places to pee yourself, a bathtub is high in the.

[Ice]

List. With my hands behind my.

[Big Parks]

Back.

[Ice]

Yeah. Let her rip myself. Scratch.

I knew it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Over. I had a question for.

[Joe Button]

Ice. Let's hear it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Uh. Oh, no. You've been on Twitter going back and.

[Joe Button]

Forth. Oh.

[Ice]

Yeah. Always on Twitter going back and.

[Joe Button]

Forth. That's exactly where I was. Let's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go. Let's do it. You ended up in a crazy conversation. So for context, y', all, somebody asked who the most popular celebrity of all time was, and they listed six people who they list. The list was Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift, Ronaldo, Messi, Eminem, and.

[Big Parks]

Beyonce.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. And you thought that you wanted to add somebody from the dog.

[Ice]

Pound? I said. I said Snoop and Shaq should be on this list. That's what I.

[Big Parks]

Said. The most famous person of all.

[Ice]

Time. Yeah, I just said they should be on the list of.

[Joe Button]

People. But if the list is eight.

[Big Parks]

People, I don't want to get right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now. It's six. It's.

[Ice]

Six. And I'm saying I'm.

[Joe Button]

Slow. If the list is six people.

[Ice]

People. And I'm saying Snoop and Shaq should be on that.

[Big Parks]

List. I don't want to get religious, but Jesus should be on that.

[Ice]

List. Almost got me.

I.

[Big Parks]

See. I don't.

[Joe Button]

Know. I don't know. Snoop and Shaq belong on that.

[Ice]

List.

[Big Parks]

Fair. Michael Jackson. Come on.

[Ice]

Man. No, no respect. When you say fame, I'm not talking about. Cuz people started telling me.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Ice]

They got into a bass, by the way. Yeah. I don't know why I did not dis. I don't watch soccer. I don't give a about.

[Joe Button]

Soccer.

[Ice]

So.

It's soccer. It's.

[Flip]

Soccer. It's like the number one sport. He don't want.

[Ice]

Sport. It is number one sport. Biggest sport in the world.

I live here. I don't. That's.

[Flip]

Cool.

What, you don't plan on traveling to Mexico and you don't plan on eating tacos.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again? Yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. Right there in New York.

I don't be that. Like.

[Joe Button]

What? That's.

[Ice]

Fine. I claim to know everything. My point, though.

[Joe Button]

Is. Oh, hate when you do.

[Ice]

That. You hear what I.

[Big Parks]

Do.

[Flip]

What? Carefully, though. I'm just saying. Get your off your.

[Ice]

Point. I'm just saying when we talk about fame, I didn't. I don't mean impact or, you know, Cassell. I'm just my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fame. Who.

[Ice]

Knows? You face.

[Big Parks]

Card.

[Ice]

Yeah. Snoop is one of the most famous people on the planet just in terms of knowing who he.

[Big Parks]

Is. Snoop is very famous, but I'm not putting Michael Jackson and Beyonce.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Respectfully. Or Ronaldo and.

[Big Parks]

Messi. Okay. Yeah. I don't know enough about. Yeah, but I know who those people.

[Ice]

Are.

I know. I know who those people are as well. I've heard the names, but I'm. When I saw that, when it was just the faces, I ain't know.

[Joe Button]

Who that's ever seen.

[Ice]

Instagram. No, I don't follow him on Instagram. I don't know these people. I don't follow their sport. I'm not familiar. Not saying that. Nobody else is, because people say to me, oh, he got 500 million followers on Instagram. I'm like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. That's a good sign.

[Joe Button]

Though.

That's all we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say. Okay, this mother got 510 million followers.

That's more than America. 330.

[Ice]

Million. How many of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them? I don't know. But that's for Everybody.

[Ice]

Right?

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So. But my point is, shooting Instagram, Snoop got 88 million.

[Ice]

Just. Fam, fam, fam. Stop, stop, stop. Cause y' all doing this shit, and y' all pissing me off. I'm trying to just explain my.

[Flip]

Shit.

[Ice]

Freeze. No, because I'm sorry. There's nothing going on. Stop, stop, freeze. All I'm saying is I don't use Instagram followers as a.

[Joe Button]

Metric. But you don't use the world.

[Big Parks]

Either. That's a pretty good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Metric. That's a pretty good.

[Joe Button]

Metric. We're saying you don't use.

[Ice]

The.

Y' all got it. Y' all got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. Y' all got.

[Big Parks]

It. There you.

[Ice]

Go. There you go. You got.

[Joe Button]

It. Don't take.

[Flip]

Me. I'm not down with that. I'm with you.

[Ice]

Nigga. Y' all got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. And Shaq, I think. Who's more famous, Snoop or.

[Ice]

Shaq? Ask me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Snoop. I would probably. I would agree with that. Globally. I.

[Joe Button]

Would. Globally.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Globally. Profit at this point, probably.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't.

[Big Parks]

Know. I'm agreeing.

[Joe Button]

With. Shaquille o' Neal is more famous than Snoop Dogg.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Okay. In the world today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. I would agree with that. When in his prime. I just didn't know. I'm. I'm not dying on either.

[Flip]

Hill. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T. For me, they're both just on a lower tier.

[Joe Button]

Than. Yeah, I. I agree with.

[Big Parks]

That. Michael.

[Ice]

Jackson.

Bro. I didn't say they're more famous than.

[Flip]

Anybody. He just felt like it should be on the.

[Ice]

List. You have a list of people. I just think when you start talking. The most famous people. I think Snoop and Shaq are.

[Joe Button]

Also. On Ice is saying if you have to add two more names, those would be two more of the names he would.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Add. Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with that.

[Big Parks]

Either. I don't know if I agree with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Either. If I had to add two more. But this is a good conversation because now I'm thinking, if I had to add two more to that list of Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift, Ronaldo, Messi.

[Ice]

Eminem, and Beyonce, I would go braun. I would go. Like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There'S. I would have LeBron before that Jack right.

[Joe Button]

Now. I hate.

[Big Parks]

Him. But Donald Trump is going to be on that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

List. Like, for sure, for.

[Joe Button]

Sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Done. Who would you say like that.

[Joe Button]

Ass.

The Hamburg.

Now the Hamburglar is famous. They serve 50 million people burgers or.

[Ice]

Some. 50 billion burgers.

[Flip]

Daily. Leave freeze.

[Joe Button]

Alone. Oh, my.

[Ice]

God. You ain't got to defend me.

[Big Parks]

My. I'm.

[Joe Button]

Cool. Don't.

[Ice]

Tell. Leave freeze Alone. If they want to joke, let them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joke. That's what thick.

[Flip]

Skin. Yeah. I got you.

[Ice]

Bro. Thank.

[Joe Button]

You. Yeah. Snoop and Shaq, I would put in.

[Flip]

Teens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. They would be in the top 50. Top 25 maybe. But you could. There's some really, really famous white people that we're not thinking about. Even when you said Donald Trump, it didn't cross my.

[Ice]

Mind. Didn't cross my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mind. But soon you said, then I'd have to say Obama. Then I'd have to say Oprah. Then I start wondering. I don't think Snoop and Shaq are more famous than Oprah. Are.

[Big Parks]

They? No, I don't think.

[Ice]

So. Probably.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not. That's what I'm saying. We could probably do this ten more.

[Big Parks]

Times.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ellen.

It gets. It get. It gets.

[Flip]

Tough. I think Shaq more famous than Ellen. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. He's more famous than Ellen, but he's not more famous than.

[Joe Button]

LeBron. Whoopi.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Goldberg. He's more famous than Whoopi.

[Flip]

Goldberg. I don't.

[Joe Button]

Know.

[Flip]

Denzel.

[Joe Button]

No. I'm trying to name black.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People. Oh, yeah. The black among the.

[Flip]

Blacks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Cause if you talk about famous black people, you're probably gonna go athlete or musician right after Beyonce. I don't know. It's a pretty precipitous.

[Joe Button]

Drug. Or doctors. Don't short.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yourself.

Maybe Dr.

[Big Parks]

Dre.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. It ain't too many, but yeah, like, it's a tough list when you start talking about.

[Big Parks]

International.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drake. Drake's another. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Snoop and Shaq don't even make the top of the list of their field.

Right. Because I mean, there's three or four. Michael. Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is more famous than shaq. So is LeBron. And Kobe probably is.

[Ice]

Too. Wait, hold on. Of their fields. What's. What. What field? That Snoop wouldn't make.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. I think Drake is more famous than him right now. Is that or. And Eminem, maybe you know.

[Joe Button]

Snoop. Those are fair.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Separate. Jay Z. Jay z probably.

[Joe Button]

Famous.

[Ice]

Fam. We talking about, you know, Snoop got the 80 year old white women know who he is. You know that.

[Big Parks]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sure. Yeah, yeah. No, he's up there. Snoop. I'm just saying Snoop is.

[Ice]

Him. I know you think I work for Death Rose. So like, I'm caping for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

SN. RI's another.

Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. Rihanna. Like, I'm not saying that these are the ne. I'm just saying I would add them to the.

[Joe Button]

List.

[Ice]

That's. It.

[Joe Button]

Is. You can't retract.

[Ice]

It. I'm not retracting. But I still add them to the.

[Joe Button]

List. No, we should bring the.

[Ice]

Retracting. I'm stand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With. I stand.

[Ice]

Down. Fuck.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'.

[Ice]

All. Y' all be wrong and stand on shit. I'm a stand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

On. I respect.

[Ice]

That. Yeah, fuck.

[Flip]

Y'.

[Joe Button]

All. Fuck it. Be wrong if.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drawn.

[Ice]

Exactly. Why not like I'm the first one to do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. Yo, I'm excited.

There's some energy in New York politics. Mamdani won the mayoralty. He's the mayor of New York as of January.

[Flip]

1St. And guess who he brought on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Board. Yo, it's up in New York.

[Flip]

Man. Guess who he brought on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Board. Yo, adding to his crime advisory board or criminal justice advisory board is our brother, my son. Yo, salute to him. Did y' all see the COVID the New York Post.

[Joe Button]

Today? No, no, I try not to look at the COVID of the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Post. I, I, I normally do too, but on the COVID of the New York Post is him. And it's not the racist news news.

[Ice]

Oh. Oh, I didn't know.

[Flip]

That. I didn't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. Yeah, the New York Post is like the one you don't want to.

[Big Parks]

Read.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

It'S important to spread the word. You said the Daily News is Daily News. No, Daily News is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fine. New York Daily News is fine. Let me pull this up.

I'm gonna pick it up. I'm.

[Joe Button]

Trying. We.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Online.

You can just do whatever you.

[Flip]

Want. Say something.

Wait, hold.

[Ice]

On.

[Flip]

Watch. You can do whatever you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Want. On the COVID of the New York Post. It says crime. It says crime.

[Flip]

Boss. Oh, that's fucked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Up. And has.

[Big Parks]

Him.

They put mice as a.

[Joe Button]

Crime. Didn't my song go to jail for, like, not paying the taxi or.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Something? No, it was armed.

[Flip]

Robbery.

[Joe Button]

But.

He robbed the taxi driver when all us was robbing the taxi.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drivers. Not the best defense, but, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say we're not going to bring you to the Post for comment, but yeah. Yes.

It says crime boss. It says Mamdani appoints rapper who served seven years for armed robbery as justice advisor. So they're already trying to make Mandani sound like rogue and violent and radical and that he's destroying the city. And of course they're going to use my son.

[Ice]

As. And he ain't even did shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yet. No. He ain't even.

[Ice]

Married. He didn't take office.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yet.

[Joe Button]

No. Great pick by mom. Donnie, let me know yet as his into the streets. Yeah, Yeah, I appreciate that. And go congrats to my.

[Ice]

Song.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely. That's amazing. Like, he's really Serious about that work. Yeah.

Yeah. When I see him in the strip club, he don't even want to talk about the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hoes.

He trying to unionize.

[Big Parks]

Him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Outside. We got to come together. Yeah, he do.

[Joe Button]

That. That's amica now. She was having a.

[Ice]

Blast.

[Joe Button]

Shout. The having a blast shout out to them. Yo. Nobody in here ever robbed a taxi driver.

[Flip]

Allegedly. No, no.

[Joe Button]

No. Nobody in.

[Ice]

Here. I need.

[Big Parks]

To. I ran out on a couple taxis.

[Joe Button]

Now. There you go. That's Robin. That's. That's robbing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Him. He's stolen you.

[Joe Button]

Down. Nobody in here ever robbed a gas station.

[Big Parks]

Attendant. Huh. 20 something. I was.

[Joe Button]

Poor. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was. I was into stealing.

[Ice]

More. I. I.

[Joe Button]

Wasn'T. That is steal poor as you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was. Robin is stealing his.

[Big Parks]

Different. It's slightly.

[Joe Button]

Different. What's the difference? Oh, this is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Great. Robbing is when you take it from the person and use force. Yeah. Burglary and stealing is like you take it when they're not.

[Flip]

There.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Or you take it without force. So for example, if I pick your actually picking your pocket crock of if I run into my house and steal all their shit while they home. That's not robbing them, that's burglarizing.

[Flip]

Them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. If I say run your shit, that. That's robbing.

[Joe Button]

You. Okay. For me, that is a rob. That is you are.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Robbing. I'm just saying that's a legal distinction. What I'm saying is you don't.

[Joe Button]

Get. But we talking it as. I'm not talking.

Let me ask you something. Do you think it's a difference between as long as they're lying and.

[Big Parks]

Manipulating?

[Joe Button]

Yes. What is the difference? It depends on situation you pansy out of Manipulation.

[Big Parks]

Is. Manipulation is very broad first of all. But in the specific I guess this is back to like is omission.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Line. That's what I'm.

[Flip]

Saying. That's the better.

[Big Parks]

Question. Because manipulation I think is very broad. It can be used in a bunch.

[Flip]

Of. The better question is omission and.

[Joe Button]

Lying. I think no, I'm clear my question. Manipulation I don't think is a lie the same. Well, it's the difference between a lie, lying and.

[Big Parks]

Manipulating. I think lying is manipulating. But manipulating is always a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lie. Yes, that's what I'm.

[Joe Button]

Saying. I agree with that.

[Big Parks]

Right. You can manipulate without.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lying. Like sometimes like for example, you might manipulate somebody to get them to think the idea is theirs when it's really yours so they can do it. So if we keep talking about holiday bonuses and stuff like that, eventually you'll think it's your idea. That's manipulating, but that's not.

[Joe Button]

Lying. You know y' all have gotten a holiday bonus every year that y' all have worked.

[Big Parks]

Here. Appreciate.

[Joe Button]

It. Just for the record, I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We paint me as I've got one every.

[Ice]

Year. That's also not.

[Flip]

True. Well, not for you.

[Joe Button]

Free. Well, it's not.

[Ice]

True. Which his.

[Joe Button]

Statement. How many years you ain't get?

[Ice]

One.

[Joe Button]

One. Well, yeah, I'll live that.

Hey, I'll take those.

[Ice]

Odds. Second year.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not so mad at that. And there'll be holiday bonuses this year. Maybe.

I.

[Flip]

What? When is it.

[Joe Button]

Coming?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh? When? And we want money, by the way. I don't want no Tyson bites.

[Joe Button]

In my hold up for me anymore. Oh, you popped.

[Flip]

Huh? Never. Never, Never, never. No, I ain't going to need that one up now. I'm saying when it's.

[Joe Button]

Not. But you ain't got a front. Yo, dog. Shout out to anybody out there that might be popped. It's holiday season. Niggas got.

[Flip]

Kids. Not right.

[Joe Button]

Now. Toys is expensive. I was on that Jordan dudes Instagram page. The dude that will give you Olive Garden's ingredients to make shit. And he has some Transformers on his page. And my son loved Transformers. So I went to find those Transformers and purchased them for my kid.

[Big Parks]

Mistake. There's levels for toys. Toys, though. Those were probably.

[Ice]

Collectors. Yeah, the new. The ones that actually do all the trails. Yeah, yeah. No, no.

[Big Parks]

No. Yeah, those are for.

[Matt Stoller]

Those.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Those are collectibles. It's gonna be collectible. You're gonna collect them in the dustbin. Get finished. When he gonna smash the.

[Flip]

Outline? Two thousand dollar Transformer.

[Joe Button]

Robots. Are you.

[Flip]

Popped? No, I'm not the.

[Joe Button]

Day. Are you waiting by the mailbox for a.

[Flip]

Check? I am not waiting, but I'm.

[Joe Button]

Just asking are you refreshing the.

[Flip]

Account? You got we got something. When is. I'm just asking.

[Joe Button]

You. When is it out there refreshing the account, hitting that button. Yo, what they call tr. Transferring.

[Flip]

Funds. Yeah, you got to transfer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Funds. That's.

[Flip]

Me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Was you.

[Flip]

Popped? Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Brokers of Ten Commandments. Man, we struggling over here. If.

[Flip]

You.

Moses ain't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Break. Who broke.

[Big Parks]

It?

[Flip]

Moses. I forgot. Who broke the Ten Commandments again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Moses. You with.

[Flip]

It? You want.

[Joe Button]

It? You want.

[Flip]

It? Part the.

[Joe Button]

Sea. Jesus. You go.

[Ice]

Stop. Help me. Yo, Y going get.

[Flip]

Us. Help.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me. Mark.

[Flip]

No. See, that's your I. I say what you just I rat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Moses. Ten Commandments. Yes, you with.

[Ice]

It. He backed you down fast.

[Flip]

Too. You Being.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sarcastic. No, Moses. Ten Commandments. Actually, 613 in the Old Testament, but yes. Moses got the ten big.

[Flip]

Ones. Yep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man. Yeah, we with it. But anyway. Yes, we desperately.

[Joe Button]

Broke. Joe, you popped.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ice. No, I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

Nigga.

[Flip]

Yes. I'm popping.

[Joe Button]

Back. Mark, you're getting a holiday bonus anyway. You don't have to do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. No, no, no. I'm.

[Joe Button]

Just. It's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Coming. I don't.

[Big Parks]

Care.

Parks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Popped. We really.

[Joe Button]

No. All jokes aside, it's pop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Season. All jokes aside, this season is rough for.

[Joe Button]

Me. It's pop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Season. Yeah. I'm spread thin. I'm spread.

[Joe Button]

Thin. Kids birthdays, girls.

[Flip]

Birthdays. Well, that's the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thing. Everybody got some.

[Joe Button]

Shit. Thank.

[Ice]

You. One of the kids birthday is on.

[Joe Button]

Christmas. Oh, that's a good. Save some money. Good thing I'm saving money with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. You go twofer for.

[Big Parks]

That?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Oh, you good.

[Big Parks]

Then. Two.

[Ice]

Transformers. Yeah, it's a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Twofer. No, I meant like one gift. Count for.

[Big Parks]

Two. No, it.

[Joe Button]

Should. No. Yeah, no, that.

[Ice]

That's. Yeah, he celebrates his birthday that.

[Flip]

Evening. Cause we.

[Ice]

Do. All the kids do they Christmas shit in the morning, all get their presents, and then later on that evening, it's birthday cake and.

[Joe Button]

Birthday. But we got to teach him that the rules don't differ from kid to kid in America. We got to teach him there's no special treatment around Christmas. Is Christmas your birthday? When you wake up, it ain't no night, night time, cinnamon crunch, cuz. Birthday.

[Flip]

Time. Yo, you have a. Do you have a full house this year for.

[Joe Button]

Christmas?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

The way he said that. No, the way that nigga said. Yeah, you saw it, right? Yes.

I never heard Glee.

[Ice]

Before. You worried the glass.

Give us.

[Flip]

Free.

Free at.

[Joe Button]

Last. I answered your question. The answer is.

[Flip]

No. When did that.

[Joe Button]

Change? It was never. I never had a full house for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Christmas.

[Joe Button]

Oh. I had no plans on having a full.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

House. Thanksgiving was kind of.

[Flip]

The. I thought he said I could have. I'm sorry. I could have sworn he stated that they were trying to buy a big.

[Joe Button]

Tree. Oh, I could have.

[Flip]

Sworn. You know, I just could have. I was excited. I was going to come over as.

[Ice]

Well. A gift for.

[Joe Button]

You. No, there's no.

[Flip]

Tree. Oh, you can get.

[Joe Button]

One. There's no pine.

[Flip]

Spray. You must be going.

[Joe Button]

Through. There's no Christmas.

[Flip]

Tuns. All.

[Joe Button]

Right. Salute my f. I'll smack the out of.

[Flip]

You.

I'm coming to your crib. Tell you they love you, man. Paul bought you.

[Joe Button]

That. That.

[Ice]

Gift. Did.

[Big Parks]

You? Did.

[Flip]

You? No. I'm coming to see.

[Joe Button]

You. Text.

[Flip]

Text143.

I'm coming to see.

[Joe Button]

You. I have a dumb question for.

[Ice]

Y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Joe Button]

Sure. You're Mount Rushmore of.

[Big Parks]

Sandwiches.

Okay, I'll.

[Ice]

Start. Oh, go.

[Big Parks]

Ahead. Blt. But I use turkey bacon.

[Ice]

Personally.

[Big Parks]

Okay. I thought we were gonna pass.

[Ice]

Around. Oh, I got a grilled cheese on there for.

[Big Parks]

Sure. Okay. With the tomato soup.

[Ice]

Right?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

Huh? I'm not a soup guy. That's y'. All. No, I'm not soup on.

[Joe Button]

You. You like.

[Ice]

Tomato? Tomato's.

[Joe Button]

Cool. They got drilled.

[Ice]

Tomatoes.

Sloppy Joe is on there. No, it is not a hot.

[Big Parks]

Dog. All right, all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. You're out of control today. You're out of fucking.

[Joe Button]

Control. Why I asked this.

[Big Parks]

Question. A sloppy Joe.

[Joe Button]

Burger. It's a sandwich. Well, a burger's a sandwich. I'm putting a hamburger on mine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'. All. Putting hamburgers and hot dogs and.

[Ice]

Sandwiches. Yes, it's me. Between two pieces of.

[Joe Button]

Bread. It's a.

[Big Parks]

Sandwich. Can we just, for the sake of this conversation.

[Ice]

Not. All.

[Joe Button]

Right.

A grilled cheese. A.

[Flip]

Blt.

[Ice]

Sure. Those are.

[Joe Button]

My. I was putting a burger for sure. But I mean, if y' all are.

[Big Parks]

Making. I kind of agree with you, but, like, let's keep it the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Actually. Sandwiches, if we got. Then I can include a cheesesteak then.

[Ice]

Right? No, no. If I can't put a damn hot dog in a burger, you can't put a.

[Joe Button]

Cheesesteak. Nah, they didn't finish the battle. You can't do it if they finished the battle. But since they. They.

[Ice]

Didn'T. What else I'm throwing on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There? I'm going with a turkey and.

[Big Parks]

Cheese. I'm going to let my Caucasian to show. I'm going with a little pastrami, man. Pastrami and some.

[Joe Button]

Cheese. Grilled pastrami is the they do with cats. Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Ice]

That. Cat's on.

[Joe Button]

Rock. It's going to be tough to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Beat. I don't eat pastram. Pastrami.

[Big Parks]

Pork.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I've never had.

[Big Parks]

It. I don't.

[Joe Button]

Beef.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't care what it.

[Ice]

Is. Bacon, egg, and.

[Big Parks]

Cheese. A bacon, egg, and cheese qualify. Yeah. What's that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Qualify? A bacon, egg. Like I do turkey. But like, turkey bacon, egg and cheese is a top four. Bacon and.

[Ice]

Eggs. Turkey bacon should be.

[Joe Button]

Illegal. Oh, bacon, egg, and.

[Big Parks]

Cheese. That's.

[Joe Button]

Stuff. Duh. Bacon, egg and.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cheese. Turkey bacon should be.

[Joe Button]

Illegal. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man. My wife says that you a.

[Big Parks]

Have the good turkey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bacon. You a had the right.

[Ice]

Turkey. I must didn't. Everyone I had was like, A.

[Big Parks]

Belt.

The bad ones are a little beltish. Yeah, for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sure. I'm going bring you some on. On.

[Ice]

Friday. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got. I had something today that was.

[Big Parks]

Delicious. It's like a meat fruit roll.

[Joe Button]

Up. Yeah, like the bad ones. I give them, bro. The bad belt. Yeah, like a belt. Was your beard died when you tried the turkey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bacon?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Big Parks]

Leaked.

[Joe Button]

Nope. Leaked all over a belt. I mean, I don't like turkey bacon either, bro. My belt is.

[Ice]

Aggressive. This is what look.

[Joe Button]

Like. And that cook.

[Big Parks]

Different. You gotta cook it different. That's the problem. Most people don't cook.

[Joe Button]

It. It cooks different. And as a pork guy, I was at that stove up with that term. What the is this? I ain't what was going on. Y' all know I follow them weirdo Weirdo Instagram pages that just show you food from all around the world. If you don't. Now you do know. And this guy was trying to. They were in Asia or China or wherever they were. I'm bad with geography. And they were cooking the rats. Big.

[Erick Sermon]

Rats.

[Joe Button]

Okay. They were cooking them. It looked like a pig. It looked like a pig when he was finished. And it said it has a. A chicken and pork.

[Flip]

Taste. Sure it wasn't a.

[Big Parks]

Possum? I will never.

[Joe Button]

Know. No, it was a.

[Flip]

Rat. Cause a lot of people cook.

[Joe Button]

Possums. I know that they cook rats too, but guinea pigs? Big.

[Big Parks]

Rats. Peru, I.

[Joe Button]

Think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

There's nothing I'd eat less than a.

[Joe Button]

Rat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Roach. No, I'd eat. I fucking roach up before I eat a.

[Ice]

Rat. Yeah, I eat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shrimp. Okay, don't do.

[Big Parks]

That. I mean, they're kind of.

[Ice]

Silly. Yo, fam. They are very, very.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Very. Rats and.

[Joe Button]

Shrimp. No, roaches. Roaches and shrimp, very similar. They're the roaches of this.

[Ice]

Sea. They.

[Big Parks]

Are. I think they are, but they're.

[Ice]

Delicious. They delicious like that. Let me.

[Joe Button]

Know. Better than a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Roach. Yeah.

[Ice]

Exactly. I've never had the roach, but if a roach tastes like that, let me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Know. I think if they did, the would be eating.

[Joe Button]

Roaches. Tell me what y' all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got. You think they would be eating.

[Joe Button]

Them? I would be the. Y' all ain't never been just watching TV and see his little mouse go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By. They used to be so embarrassing growing up. Anyone else coming had company, and I had a girl over for the first time. We sitting on the couch. I was about to make my little.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Move. This ran out. And then. He didn't just run out and run back like they did. He stood there like. Like it was his chick. Like he stood There and stared me the down for like a solid 12 second. Yeah. Might as well have. You know what I.

[Flip]

Mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Got got that.

[Flip]

Night. Yeah. What type of chick it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That'S happened to more people stuck up. Oh yeah. She's from the.

[Flip]

Community. I had something like that too before. Yeah, she came in so like in my basement. So like aunts or some like that. She was like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Joe Button]

Damn. She give you money back over just some dice and. Is that where you used to bring the ladies like to your.

[Flip]

Basement? Yeah, I used to bring it to.

[Joe Button]

My. There's a doc about that type.

[Flip]

Of. No, no, no. When I was younger I had. I had my whole.

[Big Parks]

Basement. Did it have floors like. Or just like the concrete shirt.

[Joe Button]

Asbestos and all types of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shit. She left for.

[Flip]

Ants. She was. I remember she went like this. My bed was.

[Big Parks]

Low. Oh.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. It's the bed on the.

[Flip]

Bed. No, it was on the floor. But my bed was low.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. The street glorification is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Starting.

He was on a mattress. My bed was me. I was on a.

[Flip]

Mattress. I was 17. I drove a new car. I had the whole basement, living room, bedroom. Watch our.

[Big Parks]

Mouth.

List of.

[Flip]

Things. You had the ads go in the basement.

[Joe Button]

Sometime? They.

[Big Parks]

Do. They do. It can get.

[Joe Button]

Tricky.

What else happened? No, what happened? He was in the.

[Flip]

Big. As a young man. Watch your John sleep in that bed with.

[Joe Button]

You. John.

[Big Parks]

John. Cuz he had.

[Ice]

A. He had a little.

[Big Parks]

Problem. He had a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Problem.

He don't get.

[Flip]

It. I got the song. I talk to my John the Dawn. My fault Par.

[Joe Button]

Me.

Not talking about John John the.

[Flip]

Don. He just threw me the over. Say something about. Say something about my.

[Joe Button]

Friend. No, I like him.

[Flip]

Too. All right, watch.

[Joe Button]

Your. There'll never be a time, an hour too where we get to talking about John John. That's my man. I love Shout. Shout out to him. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else is going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

On? Can I throw out one more political.

[Joe Button]

Story?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Fine. Jasmine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crockett. Jasmine Crockett is running for U.S. senate. This is a big deal you're gonna be hearing for the next. Cause there's not much going on politically. You know the way like Mamdani was the story for a whole year. That's. Jasmine Crockett is the new Mamdani story for the next 12 months. It's gonna. Cause it's not just about Texas. He's running for Senate seat in Texas. But it's really gonna be a national referendum. It's a referendum on Trump. Cause Trump goes to war with Jasmine Crockett. Anyway, so this is like a national referendum on Trump, on the success of the Democrats. Democrats, they are gonna make this a national race. And in some ways it is. Cause the U.S. senate. But like, for the next 12 months, I promise you, all you're gonna hear about is Jasmine Crockett, and then she's gonna be a.

[Big Parks]

Target. Do we like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Her?

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Yeah, Yeah, I like Jasmine Crockett. I like Jasmin.

[Big Parks]

Crockett. I'm not familiar. So, yeah, I wasn't sure if this is a good thing or a bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thing. It's. She's not radical enough for me. Her politics aren't progressive enough for me. But. But winning a Senate seat in Texas is such a big deal that it trumps, no pun intended, all the other things. And again, she's better than the rest of the field by far. You know what I'm saying? And so winning a us taking a Senate seat from the Republicans is super important. But if you can win a Senate seat in Texas right now, that shows you that the Republicans are vulnerable because they haven't won, they haven't lost a statewide race since 1988. I think that was Anne Richardson when she was the governor. So, I mean, it's been a long time since a Democrat has won statewide race. So that'd be a big.

[Flip]

Deal. I have a question for you, Mark. What party fucks with you the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Most? Oh, Democrats fuck with me more. They sometimes can think I'm one of.

[Flip]

Them. Yeah, but you're not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right? No, no, no. I'm Green.

[Flip]

Party. But, you know, that was mentioned to me. Cause for some reason I thought you were a Democrat, but somebody said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he's not a Democrat. They always call me a Democratic shill or coon on a Democratic plantation. I get called that, like, every day. But I'm not a Democrat. And I don't. I disagree with them a lot, but I'm to the left of them. So a lot of times I want Republicans to lose all the.

[Joe Button]

Time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. I just want to want a different kind of conversation, that's all. But Jasmine Crockett is gonna be big. She had a big announcement yesterday, commercials everywhere. Donald Trump already weighed in, saying that she's low iq, you know, so.

[Ice]

You know, he gonna start.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shooting. You know, he actually shot before she announced it. So she used his disses in her commercial for her announcement. So it was very smart. She's young. Some people would say she's attractive. I don't look.

[Joe Button]

At. You don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See. I don't see Beauty or nails.

[Joe Button]

Or hair or complexion, jackets, bags, happily.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Married. But I think she will do well nationally, and I think she's got a shot. I don't know if she can win, but she's got a shot. And the last thing I'll say is they kind of forced her hand because what they did in Texas is redraw the districts because she's in Congress right now in the House of Representatives. But the Republicans redrew Texas in a way to make districts that were Democrat, now Republican. So they basically took her job from her by trying to redraw the district so that she probably couldn't win the next time. So she said, fuck it. I'm gonna run for Senate. So they kind of forced her hand in that way. So if they lose, it would be poetic.

[Joe Button]

Justice. Oh.

[Flip]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. That's super.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Interesting.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Oh, it would be great to watch. Go Jasmine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crockett. Go Jasmine.

[Joe Button]

Crockett. No, I've never seen it.

Look.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Beautiful. Did.

[Joe Button]

She? Yo, you didn't.

[Ice]

Even. You didn't even know this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right? Didn't even.

[Ice]

Notice. Yeah, I got.

[Joe Button]

You. Do y' all see. Do y' all see some of the rumors going around about. You know, there's been more details added to why Chris Paul has been waved, and one of which they got this video circulating saying that Chris Paul was talking and kikiing. Kikiing with Toronto's.

[Big Parks]

Ex.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Oh. I mean, not ex. Girlfriend. Not ex. His current. Current. Current, current.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Girlfriend.

[Joe Button]

Ooh. And it did look a little.

[Ice]

Shady. It.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did. Cause he came from the.

[Ice]

Corner. He kind of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like.

Yeah, I don't think that's it.

[Joe Button]

Not. Cause it's never gonna be it. I'm sure there was. Could have played a part.

[Ice]

But. And again, that was cut that way. We only saw that piece of it, so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. But it definitely looked like somebody who was dirty macking till the bull was coming around the.

[Ice]

Corner. He stood up straight and walked up right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There. But if you cut something that way, it's gonna look that way. You know what I.

[Joe Button]

Mean? If I'm coaching the game, don't be. Don't be in the back. Just kiki my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Girl. What are the rules of talking to people's.

[Joe Button]

Girls?

[Ice]

Don't. No, I'm.

[Joe Button]

Just. There you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go.

[Joe Button]

Right. You should have told.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You. You might actually feel that way.

[Ice]

Though. I don't feel that.

[Joe Button]

Way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I mean, I don't think it's really got rude. So, for example, if we're all here on set, like, and your girl is standing on the side, like, you Good. With somebody standing there.

[Ice]

Talking. Talk to my.

[Joe Button]

Girl. Yeah, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We. We're in plain view. All right, so how. All right, that's fair. Because you can see her. If you couldn't see her, would you be okay with.

[Big Parks]

It?

[Ice]

Yes. Your niggas is cool, my girl.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. And if it's somebody who you're not as cool.

[Big Parks]

With.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Does it give? Does it get? It.

[Ice]

Gets. No, don't talk, yo. You ain't.

[Flip]

Cool. So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like. Like, I was thinking, like, for example, you know how we have guests for the next show.

[Joe Button]

Waiting?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Don't talk to.

[Ice]

Her. Oh, no, that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fine.

[Joe Button]

Okay. That's fine, too. That's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Too. Okay. Cause I'm okay with it, too. But I know people who have flip. You have a different.

[Flip]

Rule. You're not okay with.

[Erick Sermon]

That. I.

[Flip]

Am. You are. You're okay with another man talking to your wife. Let's say you upstairs, a stranger just lady gagging, trying to. Just talking to your wife, and you walk into.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. I mean, if I see a posture that looks like, you know, when a dude's trying to holler, if I see the posture, my antenna goes up. But I trust my wife to handle it. But.

[Joe Button]

Properly. Then why is your antenna going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Out?

Because dudes are weird, and sometime they do. Even women say no. So my antenna is going up more to make sure the sit. I'm not worried about her hollering.

[Joe Button]

Back. I'm more worried about, like, make sure she's safe while he's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hollering. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Ice]

Exactly.

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fast. Are you safe.

[Flip]

Baby? I mean, I trust my wife to handle the situation. Yeah. To move.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Accordingly. Yeah. Do you walk over and break? Do you walk over and.

[Flip]

Interrupt?

[Joe Button]

No. Oh, hey, what's going on here.

[Flip]

Guys? I'm too crazy. Like, if I see, like.

[Big Parks]

Nah. Which is why we thought you would do.

[Flip]

That. That's why I try to. I try to just give space and respect a woman and whatever she.

[Joe Button]

Does. I trust my.

[Flip]

Wife. Yeah. I trust. I trust her. I trust what she.

[Joe Button]

Does. Where do y' all fall on following? Following your friends, girls on.

[Big Parks]

Instagram? I.

[Flip]

Try. I don't do that.

[Big Parks]

Neither. I don't don't until, like, maybe if you get.

[Joe Button]

Married. Yeah, I don't do.

[Big Parks]

That. I have, and I.

[Ice]

Do. If it's serious, it's.

[Big Parks]

Cool. If, like, I've just been in situations where they break up and now follow the girl. So it's weird because you don't want to.

[Joe Button]

Unfollow. You know, that could get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tricky. That's A good point. The.

[Joe Button]

Awkwardness.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Afterward. But if it look like y' all going to be together. It just depends. Like I. I think I follow all y' all people's on. On online and it not mine. Well, I.

[Ice]

Don'T. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T. Does she have one? She does. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know but if she.

[Flip]

If I. I'll introduce.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You. I also never met her.

[Flip]

Before.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So that would make it different. You know what I'm saying? But if I met her or if she followed me and I saw that, I would follow.

[Big Parks]

Back. Of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Course. You know what I.

[Joe Button]

Mean? You would feel weird doing it.

[Big Parks]

Do. Of course there's none of.

[Joe Button]

Them. No, I would feel weird, I.

[Ice]

Think. Doing.

[Flip]

What? Following some. My man's.

[Joe Button]

Girl. Man's girl. Me me me me, me, me, me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me. I get. I mean I.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. I. I also don't see a problem with it, but I don't know if I could do that. I've known Park's wife for a billion years. I just. I see her win Park's poster. Right. I like. Oh.

[Big Parks]

Rim. It also can be weird too depending on the content that the girl.

[Joe Button]

Posts. That.

[Big Parks]

Part. You girl post like girls sometimes they post some things that you little.

[Ice]

Thirst trappy that you see a man under.

[Big Parks]

The. The.

[Joe Button]

Likes.

[Ice]

Yeah. All right, hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now. Yeah, you know what it is? I. Yeah, that's true. I would, I just would ignore those.

[Big Parks]

Posts. Post.

[Joe Button]

Facts. You don't see beauty. You don't see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Beauty. I don't see.

[Ice]

Him. Oh, no, no, no. Marcus, show me post like.

[Joe Button]

This. Don't get the out of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here. No, I mean, no, I'll give you an example. I'll give you example. I follow your.

[Joe Button]

Girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

I don't comment on her post. But like, like, but the. But the future.

No.

[Ice]

No.

I did not know that's where he was going with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. No.

[Joe Button]

No. You know what happens up here? A lot of say example and it be you. You, you be the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Example. But I'm saying your girl.

[Ice]

Post. I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T. No, I mean I don't necessarily look at. I'm not on Instagram enough to look at anybody's post a lot. But like if I were to put something, it would be like her with her son at the football game. I'd be like congrats. You know what I mean? Or something like that. Or if you and her together, I would say happy birthday. You know what I mean? But I wouldn't put same thing with your.

[Big Parks]

Girl.

[Ice]

Right. I'm follow mine now. I don't know what you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are.

Sorry, doc. No, I don't know if I follow yours, but I'm saying if I did, I would probably only comment if it was a picture of y' all two.

[Ice]

Together. Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. That's. That's my.

[Flip]

Point. Whoa, whoa.

[Ice]

Whoa. Yeah, that look that little weird, though. I see everything. But I'm only going to comment on this.

[Big Parks]

One. Your wife a little bit. I'm just.

[Joe Button]

Playing. Yeah, I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Would. And like, she follows you if you follow the back. I would assume. I would have assumed you.

[Joe Button]

Would. Would. Why would you assume.

[Ice]

That? Yeah, I wouldn't follow you. I wouldn't follow her, cuz I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Enough. I wanted to hear why that would.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Assumption. There comes a point for me where, if I'm cool enough with y', all, where I consider y' all like fam, then I can see y' all girls like fam. So I don't. I don't. I don't. I would treat it the way any other I would. Any other fam. Like, I wouldn't. Yeah, that's why. That's why.

I would unfollow, then. Then I would unfollow, then I would unfollow, follow. That's exactly.

[Ice]

Right. But if I don't interact with yours.

[Flip]

Like. Like, you don't follow after all.

[Ice]

Breakups, like, you know what I'm saying? I see Shade when she's here. You follow us up? Yeah, I follow her now. I don't even know your lady has an.

[Joe Button]

Instagram. I don't follow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Her.

[Flip]

Right. Hear what I say, Corey? See, you don't follow after all breakups. But I was being.

[Joe Button]

Funny. You.

[Flip]

Catching. Oh, oh, that's my Cory.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Corner. Yeah, but like. Yeah, so. But I would follow. And usually if I follow somebody, it's because they already follow.

[Flip]

Me. I felt strange even commenting on the cause on Twitter. I don't follow Sade, but I saw when she put the picture of her son. And I even said like, I wanted to say a joke pertaining to the joke that I said up here, but I even felt reluctant, like, I don't wanna play.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Roman. See, I don't want to play with N. S girls. I don't do none of that. But I would be like, congrats. Well.

[Flip]

Joke. We got ourself. Whatever I said up here, I just repeated it. Yeah, but it's just. I'm playing around with girls.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man. Yeah, there's definitely rules to.

[Big Parks]

It. Yeah, for.

[Flip]

Sure. It gets a little.

[Big Parks]

Tricky. Well, it also gets weird because the other People that follow her make things weird sometimes too. You know what I'm saying? Because if you hopped in and said something, whatever joke you said up.

[Flip]

Here.

[Big Parks]

Yes. Then the comments would be like, oh, look at Flip trying to.

[Flip]

Holler.

Shout out to you, Paul.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. That should be.

[Ice]

Annoying. That'd be very.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Annoying.

[Flip]

Yeah. Box. I follow your girl. He just trying to let it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Slide.

[Flip]

What? I love this. I love y', all.

[Big Parks]

Son. You.

[Joe Button]

Too. Well, I love you.

[Flip]

Too. I love you.

[Joe Button]

Man. Thank.

[Flip]

You. Out of.

[Joe Button]

Here.

There you have.

[Flip]

It. There you have.

[Big Parks]

It. We really got to the bottom of.

[Joe Button]

That. That was not to self. That was my friend's group. Girls are not my family.

Yo, speaking of people's girls, Cassie is being reported that she. Well, she's somebody's wife. It's being reported that Cassie is tough to serve these papers with. One of the long term escorts. Let me pull it up. That her and Puff hired for over a stretch of 10 years has been trying to serve Cassie with paperwork because he wants to sue her for getting an abortion. You got an abortion. You got rid of my baby. You gave me STDs. You caused me emotional stress. You did. Let me just find.

[Big Parks]

It. Yeah, I'm ducking you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Too. Yeah, get through when you.

[Flip]

Can.

[Big Parks]

You. It's not the.

[Flip]

Place. Can you sue somebody for getting.

[Big Parks]

Abortion? I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don'T. I think abortion. No, but the STI is for.

[Joe Button]

Sure.

The judge has approved Clayton Howard's request to serve Cassie with his lawsuit in a different manner as she is evading service. Mr. Howard is filing a lawsuit against Cassie for charges related to sex trafficking which he claims has resulted in him contracting chlamydia along with coercion and additional.

[Big Parks]

Allegations. You knocked that right.

[Joe Button]

Out. Cassie will more than likely be hit with a default judgment if she keeps hiding and forced to pay this man millions. If I were her, I would pay him. If I were her, I would pay him and get him out the way. Especially when I just hit with all types of licks from everywhere. I got. I got 50, 60 million from pulling the same.

[Ice]

Move. And what is he asking.

[Joe Button]

For? It doesn't say, but that's what I'm saying. It could.

[Big Parks]

Be. It also could get sticky because now allegedly there was a. Yes, I'm saying there's a lot of escorts.

[Ice]

Right. I go pay him. Come the rest of them.

[Big Parks]

Too. Yeah, I, I now the pulverizer and all these guys are coming knocking on your.

[Joe Button]

Door. The.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Punishment.

[Joe Button]

Sure. He followed me the other day on Instagram. Okay. I met him not by through a Dark Alley. Shout out to him. The Pulverizer is funny.

[Ice]

Though. That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Funny. As the Punisher followed you on.

[Big Parks]

Instagram. That's dope.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man. If I had more.

[Joe Button]

Time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I need a little time to work this bit up. So you lucky. You lucky. You lucky. I got an appointment.

[Flip]

Guy. He's a nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Guy. Is.

[Joe Button]

He? Yeah, he's actually pretty.

[Flip]

Cool. Pretty.

[Joe Button]

Cool.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Okay. He was also at the R and B event that Ammani threw. I want to say I saw him at one of those events across the street spot. So yeah, he's a cool dude. I ain't got a problem. Spoke to him. Might. Might have said he was a POD.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fan. That's what's up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Ain't bad. Salute. You want to judge him because of his.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Profession. You want to judge. I want to judge you. I was.

[Joe Button]

Totally. But how would you judge me and him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fight. I hadn't worked a bit out yet. It was.

[Joe Button]

Coming. It was coming.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Friday. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Friday. What else? Might be.

[Joe Button]

Too.

[Big Parks]

But.

Y look so immature right.

[Joe Button]

There.

[Ice]

Sorry. Never going to grow.

[Joe Button]

Up. Why would we one day. I think.

[Ice]

So. No, I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

Bro. By the time I'm 50, I'm doing.

[Ice]

It. It's.

[Flip]

Over. I am the most mature one up.

[Joe Button]

Here.

[Ice]

Is. Is.

Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is. You're.

[Flip]

Not. I thought about that the other day. Is the most mature person up.

[Big Parks]

Here. Well, I hope.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So. That might be.

[Flip]

Yeah. Oh yeah. If you think about it like he crack his little joke to say.

[Joe Button]

His little thought about.

[Flip]

It.

[Joe Button]

He. I thought about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. That might be him and Amani might be the two most mature. You.

[Joe Button]

Think? Oh, we just saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anything.

Mature.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Wait, wait. Cause like I got to look it up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now. I'm talking about at least in terms of how we.

[Flip]

Joke. Okay, I see. Okay. They might be the least engaging when it comes to certain type of.

[Big Parks]

Jokes. I just saw Ish hump the air yesterday or two days.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ago. It's a low.

[Joe Button]

Bar. It's a low.

[Big Parks]

Bar. That's.

[Ice]

Fair. He calls it monkey.

[Joe Button]

Freeze. Come.

[Flip]

On. He's the most.

[Big Parks]

Mature. Erickson is the most.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mature. There we go.

[Joe Button]

Yes. There we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go. We have to go off camera to find.

[Joe Button]

Mature. That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

True. He's definitely. Anybody on camera here is.

[Ice]

Immature. Erickson and.

[Big Parks]

Paul.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I think this might be my first time looking up the word.

[Flip]

Mature. What's the.

[Joe Button]

Definition?

One, Complete and natural growth or development. Development as plant and animal forms. A mature rose bush. Two, Ripe as fruit or fully aged as cheese or wine. Three. Fully developed in body or mind. As a.

[Big Parks]

Person.

[Joe Button]

Four. Noting or pertaining to an adult who is middle aged or older. I'm never going to be.

[Ice]

This. I'm never going to be none of us.

[Joe Button]

Complete. I'm never going to be complete in my.

[Big Parks]

Development. Yeah, that ain't gonna happen to be a.

[Joe Button]

Full.

[Ice]

Sorry. I told you it's never going to happen, bro. Nah, hang it.

[Joe Button]

Up. Interesting how the room full of men glossed over the man's claims about Cassie. That's interesting to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me. Oh, you know, I just assumed she was guilty. It wasn't because I didn't take him serious. It's because I. I.

[Joe Button]

Did. But even in assuming she's guilty, we. We assume it cuz. Cuz I'm with you. But we assume it just quietly and that's the.

[Big Parks]

End. And I thought they were putting all the shit in the.

[Joe Button]

Jar.

[Big Parks]

Huh? I thought they were putting all.

[Joe Button]

The shit in the jar, not somebody different. Oh.

See, you're not.

[Ice]

Mature. Yeah, yeah, he might be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lean. He's not even close to the top of the.

[Joe Button]

List. I would imagine if what homeboy alleges is true, that he's probably a little fucked up in the head behind it.

[Flip]

Yeah. Why.

He took the.

[Joe Button]

Money. I think it's interesting when you totally get it on the female side and not the male.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Side. No, I want to know what your line of thinking was. I. Is it the celebrity part or is it the.

[Big Parks]

Actual. I think it's a difference. Only because he was an.

[Flip]

Escort. Exactly. You took the.

[Big Parks]

Money.

[Flip]

You. You provided a.

[Ice]

Service. I provided a service. I did not. I didn't pay to get.

[Big Parks]

Burnt. I'm not talking about the STI.

[Flip]

Thing.

If you go raw, you're gonna get burned. So stop.

If you go unprotected, the likely chances of getting burned is.

[Joe Button]

High.

[Flip]

Yeah. So let's stop saying that. But what I'm saying is that he was an escort and he was paid for a service. So are we judging escorts.

[Joe Button]

Now? Yeah, I'm with Flip. Anything that happens because an escort was hired is within the realm of possibility. Does I'm an escort?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. No.

[Joe Button]

No. So if I'm an escort, but.

[Big Parks]

STI is my be and I'm not having your.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Baby. If you have unprotected sex. And this is just for escorts for me, I think if anybody. Unless someone is knowingly hiding their diagnosis or doing something to, like, mask it so that people can't make their own choices as a general rule. I never liked the idea of, like, criminalizing, you know, STIs for people. Whether you're escorted or not, you get somebody chlamydia, you had an option, as long as you had an option to have protection or to make a choice. I think that's about being.

[Joe Button]

Responsible. Because someone is a sex worker doesn't mean that the circumstance they showed up to, they agreed upon. There could be all types of shit going on once you get there. And some of that could have something to do with all of the normal words that you throw in there. Intimidation. Where there's a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Celebrity. I'm with.

[Joe Button]

That. Weapons. I was drugged. I was forced to do something that I didn't sign up for because this is my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Profession. No, no, again, for me, again, I'm saying it's not because of the profession. Everything y' all just said, all those examples, I think are things you should be able to get take action for. I'm saying just a STI as such. No, but if you drugged me confused, like I said, if you did something to manipulate me or do harm to me. Yes, but I'm saying just if somebody gets a STI from somebody when they knowingly had unprotected sex to.

[Flip]

Me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Now, if you drug me in them or if you went stealth, you turned me around and took the condom off, that's different because I didn't sign up for.

[Flip]

That. No disrespect. Yo, we doing what did to oj.

[Joe Button]

Yo. Huh?

[Flip]

Huh? We doing what did to oj. When. When, for example, like, because Cassie, people think Cassie full of. Now people are trying to put this jacket on her when it comes to. Oh, man, maybe the guy has a case.

[Big Parks]

It's. I don't think that Cassie's full.

[Ice]

Of. Yeah, I about to say. I don't think Cassie's full.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of. Me either. I think Cassie was a victim in.

[Flip]

This. Oh.

[Ice]

Okay. No, I think that's part of.

[Joe Button]

Why. That's why. Because Cassie was a.

[Ice]

Victim. That's why people are looking over.

[Joe Button]

Some of the same rules that make this guy a.

[Ice]

Victim. Wait.

[Joe Button]

Wait. If we just stop at the sex trafficking. You're a victim According to the letter of the law.

[Ice]

Yes. See, I think just be. I think because Cassie was a victim, people are looking at her still as a victim. So now with this gentleman trying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To. She couldn't do.

[Ice]

Her. Go after.

[Flip]

Her.

[Ice]

Yeah. It's like, well, how you going after the victim? Like you're a victim going after the victim. I think that's why I put.

[Joe Button]

This. The, The. The. The sex escort courts union or whoever represents them. They. They came together and was like, listen, most of our during the trial.

[Ice]

Most of our communication was.

[Joe Button]

Her. Cassie. But if that's.

[Ice]

True. But that could still. Now you're getting into who was paying. Yeah, she was. Well, whose money? Like. Like, I get it, I get it, I get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. That gets tricky. That gets tricky too. Yeah, I.

[Joe Button]

Get. Get.

[Ice]

It. But I'm just saying if we believe her. Coerced into this lifestyle. I'm doing like. So now it's. I'm doing these things to please him, or I'm doing these things because I know this is what he wants. I still don't necessarily want it myself, but I'm doing this to keep everything happy. That's how people are looking at her. So even if she was the one contacting them, you're contacting them still. An attempt to make him happy. So people are still looking at her as a.

[Flip]

Victim. I was initially confused by your tone because I thought that you were saying your tonality. I thought that you were saying that the guy was a victim, the escort. Cause I'm totally against. No disrespect. I'm just him suing her. I don't agree with that. So I thought that Joe was saying, well, he is a victim. He's a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Victim. I need to see the case. I can't speak to it on the.

[Flip]

Case. He got paid for service.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo. Just cause you're a sex worker doesn't mean that you can't be a.

[Joe Button]

Victim.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Facts. And you could be harmed in lots of ways. Like you said, for things you didn't sign.

[Flip]

Up. We're muddy in the waters. Whatever. He. He said Joe used the word distress and it caused pain and all that stuff. That's what you just said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right? And that's the.

[Joe Button]

Report. If we throw all those words out and just stick to sex trafficking, which is what Diddy is. Is going for, then he's.

[Flip]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You trafficked me or y' all trafficked.

[Flip]

Me. You don't feel like he was willing to.

[Joe Button]

Participate.

I don't think that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People. Again, I need to see the details.

[Flip]

Of. Are you serious.

[Ice]

Mark? You hear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This? I agree. I mean, again, I need to know the details of what his allegations are. But just real quick, what I'm saying is I'm not going to dismiss someone's claims just because they're a sex worker. I think that's the part that we. People get hung up on. Like, it's almost like, well, if you're in this room, I remember. Well, I won't tell the.

[Flip]

Story. If he got drugged, that's different. That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not. I need to know the.

[Joe Button]

Details. Cause y' all keep saying if this happened, it's different. If this.

[Ice]

Happened. Let me.

[Joe Button]

Just. If this happened, it's different.

[Ice]

Flip. Let me just say this because you saying he got paid for it, so he's not a victim. The up part is that's illegal, though. Just that part right there. Paying him for it is.

[Flip]

Illegal. I feel like he was a willing participant. That's what I'm.

[Joe Button]

Saying. That wouldn't.

[Ice]

Matter. It wouldn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Matter. So then we're separating the kind of moral question from the legal.

[Ice]

Question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And those are two different.

[Flip]

Things. Got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. Because part of what you're saying is you knew what you was.

[Joe Button]

Doing.

[Ice]

Right. I get what he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Said. And even if that's true, and I don't necessarily agree with. With that, because, again, I don't know the.

[Flip]

Details.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. It doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't have legal.

[Flip]

Recourse. God, I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Agree. Now, some people might roll their eyes at the legal recourse because, like, you knew what you was doing. But that's where I think we have to get.

[Flip]

More. I'm gonna hold my thoughts until. Until we read the.

[Big Parks]

Five. I think that this should be aimed at.

[Joe Button]

Puff. Listen, watching, that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All. Should be.

[Big Parks]

What? The lawsuit should sue.

[Joe Button]

Puff. He.

[Ice]

Can'T. He might can't. And if she was the one contacting me, she was the one paying me. It was her, her, her.

[Joe Button]

Her. She's the one that fucking.

[Ice]

Me. She's the one that's looking at.

[Joe Button]

Me. She's.

[Ice]

The. What do I. I got against.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Puff? And she's already sued.

[Ice]

Him. Never talked to this man before how I'm gonna sue.

[Big Parks]

Him. She was acting as an agent of.

[Ice]

Puff. But I did nothing with Puff. I still did everything with her. She can't prove.

[Joe Button]

That. Yeah, yeah, you would have to prove.

[Ice]

That. Can't prove it. So I gotta go after who I can go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

After. He would have to sue her. And then she could go back to Puff for that. That would be the chain. We'll find.

[Ice]

Out. Yeah, we'll find.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Out. But they gonna catch her.

[Joe Button]

Eventually. A few things that just slipped by me. Paul, no pun. During the puff doc.

Lil Rod.

There should be more talks about little Rod's part. Like, and the Internet is doing it already. But Little Rod was like, yo, sometimes I'd go to bed with women in the bed and wake up and Puff was in the bed. And then I'd get up and go make a.

[Ice]

Slap. I heard that.

[Joe Button]

Virtual. Wait, what.

That'S off. I don't feel like we the.

[Ice]

Even the way he told that was off like everything there wasn't no out like like yo I woke up and this in the bed like yo what.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The little too matter of fact calm.

[Ice]

Like yeah I wake up and he's in the.

[Big Parks]

Bed. I'm not going to them.

[Ice]

Sessions.

I was just then then the.

[Joe Button]

Other party was like yo it was. It was us. We was working on something and then Puff and Justin went into the other room the B room with another guy and then all I heard was pop pop. And then they came out and then we just finished the.

[Ice]

Song. Never seen that band again. I think his name was G.

[Joe Button]

I said what you say my yo broad. Yo.

[Flip]

Broad. Peace.

[Big Parks]

Bro. His story has some like yo questions to be.

[Flip]

Answered. All right say.

[Joe Button]

Bye. Yeah Mark is leaving taking his jacket that transform into like that that you wear around your waist Bullet yeah jacket A few people we may need to hear on the next Puff story.

[Big Parks]

Jodecy.

[Joe Button]

Sure.

Yeah yeah well I guess you can throw crazy lady in there Jaguar right Let her get some get some lies off Gene Deal. I heard they didn't pay him his money. You can throw.

[Big Parks]

Him. Yeah I saw a couple.

[Joe Button]

Interviews.

[Big Parks]

At some point didn't clear up.

[Joe Button]

Much. Somebody will try to put a microphone in front of Mary's.

[Ice]

Face. Farnsworth.

[Flip]

Bentley.

[Joe Button]

Okay. And Fonzworth Bentley for.

[Ice]

Sure.

That's the the.

[Joe Button]

One. Farorth Bentley is the.

[Flip]

One. Mary has stayed out of that when it came to Puff and she's.

[Joe Button]

Done a great job of it.

She's done a phenomenal job.

Avoiding it all. But Mary's also Mary so it's like you can't just put a mic in front of Mary.

[Ice]

Face. Yeah too much class for.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Ice]

She. She. She don't play no muddy games like.

[Joe Button]

That. Yeah and she smacks out of one of your quick that part too. But FS were vent where is he.

Married? Chilling. Yo marriage is always the COVID up for what you was doing in the streets. Yeah, marriage is always the rebrand.

[Big Parks]

Anyways.

[Joe Button]

Anywho. Now what I know what'd you think.

[Ice]

About. I know I say I don't want to talk about doing unless his.

[Joe Button]

Music.

[Ice]

But.

The dude that was running around with Drake top five is now shitting on.

[Flip]

Him. I saw that he posted.

[Ice]

Kendrick. Posted Kendrick he DMed hitter saying we we basically we cool now and called Drake a weirdo. Said he wearing lip nail polish and shit. He's mad because Drake posted a diss song aimed at him.

So now he's like, turn my back on.

[Joe Button]

You. And top five is on my list of people to just never speak about no matter what he.

[Big Parks]

Does. I'm not familiar with top.

[Joe Button]

Five. He's a clown. He's been a clown.

His loyalty to Drake has been in question for a while. He's turned on him before and posted weird shit on the Internet. He's a weirdo little clown dude that I'm sure enough people have warned Drake about. But that don't matter. You'll see these two together at some point in the near future. Cause mind. But yeah. Z Rap Parks. I don't know anything about this gentleman that you're talking.

[Big Parks]

About. Salute. Top five. I'm sorry you went through that. Or.

[Ice]

Congratulations. There you go. That always.

[Joe Button]

Worked. Now. Now he says what he say. Now I can listen to like that in public and not in secrecy. Like it's one of them type.

[Big Parks]

Of clowns secretly listening to, like, that.

[Joe Button]

Solari. Seriously. You're like, secretly listening to anything. It's like. It's music. Turn that up. What are you on the top.

[Big Parks]

Five? What you listening to over there? Top.

[Ice]

Five. Yo, you jamming kind of hard. What's.

[Big Parks]

That? The way you're tapping your foot. It looks like the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

BPMs.

That's not like.

[Joe Button]

That. Yeah, so I don't have anything on. On. On top.

[Ice]

Five. I didn't.

[Joe Button]

Either. Really? I do hear. No, I don't hear. It's totally fake that Cher might get married to.

[Big Parks]

Homeboy. I saw that. I saw.

[Joe Button]

That. Love wins the young for her birthday boy's up. Yeah, ran it up. City boy's up. A.

[Ice]

Gabillion. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Blowout. Remember they had that whole report about Sher's friends trying to urge her to stop talking to him? And they're saying that there's no prenup. Like married zero. Prenup, huh? Talk about it warm, man. You know talk about.

[Flip]

It. Yeah, we so. Look, we so biased. It was the other way around. N we be kicking? Yeah, look, he came up. We respect it. If it was the other way around, we be kicking the woman's back.

[Ice]

In. That's right. Put it down so good where she don't even listen to her friends. I mean, her friends trying to have her back. Nah, she don't care. She in.

[Joe Button]

Love. There is something to being diplomatized. Pause. It happens like the.

[Flip]

Guys. He got that. Oh, he got shit thinking.

[Big Parks]

Sonny. What's that.

[Flip]

Song? What's that song? They sung.

[Joe Button]

Parts. Give me.

[Big Parks]

Five. I got you.

[Flip]

Babe. Yeah, I got you, babe. He said, yo, Watch me. You to this in the hip hop way. Wild and shit.

[Joe Button]

Up. He got share in a.

[Flip]

Tail. He got share in a.

[Joe Button]

Pretzel. Nothing your friends could do about it. Nothing.

[Ice]

Nothing. Your friends, your family, everybody trying to.

[Flip]

Dig. Joe is right. Dynatize is real. I seen plenty of them be just one way. And as soon as they a nigga, ram it. They totally.

[Joe Button]

Different. Ram it. Ram it. You guys are barbarians. The pulverizer. Man, don't say.

[Flip]

Radio. You ever had a woman.

[Joe Button]

Dignitized? I guess that would be for them to say, right? Right. It can't be the guy running around talking about unpolverized. They got to do.

[Flip]

It. I don't talk about my shelter. All that is sacred to me. I know, I know you're bad.

[Joe Button]

But I mean, this ain't even that, right? This is somebody. Somebody dictating. 90 year old. How old is.

[Flip]

Cherry?

[Joe Button]

80. Same shit? Yeah, same.

[Ice]

Shit. That's.

[Joe Button]

The. Now I think I could do wonders to an 80 year old. That's what we talking about. If we talking about me and an 80 year old, I think I can toot my own.

[Ice]

Horn.

Who we talking about.

[Big Parks]

Here? Little different from that 80 year old Dickie Ben used to.

[Joe Button]

Say. What? Oh, man. I put Sharon in a Boston Crab.

Send her through the fucking.

[Flip]

Moon. I've never felt this way.

[Ice]

Before. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. How much money is share worth? Exactly?

[Ice]

Exactly. It don't matter.

You don't gotta look it.

[Joe Button]

Up. It's.

[Flip]

Shared. 70.

[Joe Button]

Million. She's one of the. One of the people we refer to as one.

[Big Parks]

Name. 360 million according.

[Flip]

To. Oh, my.

[Big Parks]

God. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Salute. That'll do.

[Big Parks]

It. Chicken.

[Joe Button]

Spirit. That'll do.

[Big Parks]

It. Chicken.

[Joe Button]

Spirit. That boy got 360 million. He's doing the right thing. AO. I think his name is AO. A.E. a E A shout out to A. You doing it. You're doing a.

[Ice]

Little. How you doing, big boy? Indeed, how you.

[Joe Button]

Doing? If you believe in love after.

[Ice]

Love.

I need some of that too. Some of.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Big Parks]

Pub.

Give me Sunny.

[Ice]

Too. What I need, I.

[Flip]

Need. Come on, give me Sunny. You gotta be a real.

[Ice]

Vindictive. I need all that, man. Let's get.

[Joe Button]

It. Let's see, let's see, let's see, see. Let's see, let's see, let's see. I was speaking to. I was interviewing an architect for the home I'm building. Okay. Okay. And she seemed amazing. A lot of really important information. But while she was telling me about the role she would play on site as it pertains to the builders. She was trying to say, yo, I'm gonna be there once a week, twice a week, making sure exactly what's on paper is being done. Making sure they're not scamming you out the budgets and yada yada. And she said, and this is a white lady. And she said, I'm gonna really be cr. I'm gonna really crack the whip.

And then she caught herself and she said, I'm gonna really be making sure that they Yada, yada, yada. And it didn't dawn on me at all. Yeah, because I.

[Ice]

Just. You hit.

[Joe Button]

Her. I'm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black. I hear.

[Flip]

It. I.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. I don't. But that is where that comes from, right? Damn sure is where it come.

[Ice]

From. I'm cracking the whip to make sure you is.

[Joe Button]

Working. How do some of these phrases stay in Society for 700 years or however long it's.

[Ice]

Been? See, Mark, because the racism ain't left.

[Big Parks]

One. That.

[Ice]

Part. The racism's still there. So the phrases are going to be.

[Joe Button]

There. Crack the whip.

[Big Parks]

Though. The people who had power, they could have protected herself at least. Though I will say that, yeah, she did herself.

[Ice]

But. But. But no, because the fact that she caught herself like that. No, that means she knows something off with that.

[Joe Button]

Phrase. Well, maybe that's the start of no longer saying it, at least when you're speaking to black people who can hire.

[Ice]

You.

[Joe Button]

Right. Crack the whippy, I guess, is kind of nuts. It's how I look at the realtors when they say master bedroom still. Yeah, but that.

[Ice]

One. Is that one down to me. I didn't. I didn't.

[Big Parks]

Even. What they say they call now the primary.

[Joe Button]

Primary. Primary.

[Flip]

Bedroom. What you say, Is that a deal breaker for.

[Ice]

You? The.

[Joe Button]

Crack.

[Flip]

No. Okay. White pie.

White pie. She gonna get it done. Because as she get the home.

[Joe Button]

Boy. Because as it turns out, like what. What she was explaining is exactly what I needed.

[Ice]

Done.

So you need a white person to crack the.

[Joe Button]

Whip.

He don't want to go through.

[Flip]

That. South Carolina he going through.

[Joe Button]

Now. I need to crack the whip on.

[Big Parks]

Homeboy.

[Joe Button]

Homeboy. Homeboy down south is. Is playing me because there's nobody down there cracking the whip still wait.

[Flip]

For you to go that damn, boy.

[Ice]

You gonna line Joe up so.

[Joe Button]

Good. I am for Christmas. Goddamn it. I'm.

[Ice]

Going. He going to you up. Leave that.

[Joe Button]

Alone. Okay, so it's not just me. Crack the whip does come from.

[Flip]

Existence. But I'm happy that she. I'm happy that she correct herself. Social awareness. She would have got it all for you as a white.

[Joe Button]

Man. I'm happy that she.

[Flip]

Said. Yeah. Crack the whip. And you know, he'd be like, yes, you crack it. I'm gonna have Pablo and him up.

[Joe Button]

There. I'm happy that you said it. No matter what the builder doing, whatever's on his paper is what he about to.

[Ice]

Build.

Really? Oh, she sound like she on.

[Joe Button]

The. Yeah. She said it don't really matter how you feel about the builder as long as the builder can build. You need a. The architect is where. Yeah. What they put.

[Ice]

Down.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Flip]

Yeah. And if it doesn't get done.

[Ice]

They bring this to.

[Joe Button]

Fruition. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's the most.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Important. You got the blueprint already to.

[Joe Button]

Your. I'm. I'm super in the early stages of.

[Flip]

Finalizing. About to have the.

[Joe Button]

Fountain.

[Ice]

Yeah. This about to be crazy. This about to be.

[Big Parks]

Crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm in like save money mode too. So I'm looking at like the money I make. Still need.

[Ice]

More. Of.

[Joe Button]

Course. Always you.

[Ice]

Need. Always use.

[Joe Button]

More. Need. Need.

[Flip]

More. What does that come. More.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Work.

[Joe Button]

Huh? More work. Yeah. The work don't stop Queen flip. We don't discuss.

[Flip]

Us. I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Saying. Yeah, but you implying you're doing. Inferring you're doing something. Doing something.

You're doing something right.

[Flip]

Now. Man is working. That's.

[Joe Button]

All. How much we getting paid for? All for the finding the China tunnels. Well.

Let'S get into it. How much you.

[Flip]

Getting? You know I can't talk about.

[Joe Button]

That. And our man. Our man called me the other day. Your man Mav called.

[Flip]

Me. He.

[Joe Button]

Did? Yeah. Wanted to know if we had a.

[Flip]

Problem. If you and him had a.

[Joe Button]

Problem. Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah. Did you have a good.

[Joe Button]

Conversation? I thought so.

[Ice]

Good. Did he think.

[Joe Button]

So?

And I'll say.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Okay. Did you.

[Ice]

Get. Cuz, you know, you. You'll be like, yeah, I think it went.

[Flip]

Great.

[Joe Button]

Joe. Oh.

[Flip]

Man. You could have just have a regular conversation with.

[Joe Button]

A. If you called me and asked me if we got a problem, then that mean, you know, that it's a.

[Ice]

Problem. Or I'm checking to make.

[Joe Button]

Sure. Or I'm checking there's no need for.

[Ice]

That. If I care if I give.

[Joe Button]

A. See, that's the. And that's the.

[Flip]

Thing. Or I'm happy that he.

[Joe Button]

Called. We. We had a good conversation where. Where I explained to him, you know, whatever he had going on on the Internet recently, I don't really understand it, but it's not for me too. Hey. Content. And he explained that I had done some Things in the content world that had hurt his feelings. And that's where it gets awkward, because my feelings. Feelings are never hurt, so I have a hard time. Oh, okay. Your feelings. The do that.

[Flip]

Mean. That's.

[Joe Button]

Rude. That's rude. What the do that mean your feelings got.

[Ice]

Hurt? It's.

[Joe Button]

Dismissive. I'm dismissive. He does that a.

[Flip]

Lot. He does that a.

[Ice]

Lot. I'm with.

[Joe Button]

You. It ain't got. It ain't no problem. We just ain't you. I mean, it ain't beef. It just ain't turkey.

[Ice]

Either. You don't have beef with.

[Joe Button]

Him. Yeah, I ain't no problem with.

[Ice]

Man. No, I'm saying you said it ain't beef.

[Joe Button]

That. That I told.

[Ice]

Man. It made me be beef the other.

[Joe Button]

Way. I told Mav I ain't got no problem with him. And he. And he said he ain't got no problem with me. And we told each other we love each other and we wish each other the best, but it was with a little tone. It was with a little Joe tone in there. Shout out to Mav, what else happened this week? What else happened this week? Let me just run my mouth now about that. Don't matter. Bumping the mayo over the.

[Big Parks]

Weekend.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Bumped in the mayo over the weekend. So I'm here to report that whatever I said about AK vs Maino on the Patreon last Friday, I have a totally different opinion on it. Now that I've bumped into Maino. Mano got the new teeth. Mayno is outside showing his teeth.

[Flip]

Smiling.

What did I say on Patreon Friday.

[Ice]

Night? 1.

[Big Parks]

Y'.

[Flip]

All. What was.

[Joe Button]

That? It was.

[Flip]

Mona. What did she say? Shout out to Mona. What did she.

[Joe Button]

Say? She said a whole bunch of stuff about Act. Of street. Yeah. And then I think this morning, act replied. I didn't get a chance to see.

[Flip]

The. Yeah, but not that. But what. What that to do with Mayo? I know him and Mayo because.

[Joe Button]

The conversation started about ACT vs. Mayo and the back and forth they were having about.

[Flip]

Fashion. But what was your stance on it? Cuz you said when I saw Mayo, I have a totally different.

[Joe Button]

Stance. Well, my stance on it was after the conversation that A had with Jim at the Young Boy concert. Even if he had something to say about the way they dress on that podcast, I might have skill skipped it. See, but that's where he's different from me. Oh, okay. Cause you see go on fire at whoever. Whoever, whenever he feel like doing it, which I love act and I love Mayno. So when I saw Mayno with his new teeth out, chilling, having a blast, sipping on something. Mano said, listen, man, we. We in the content game. We doing the content game. I ain't gonna touch him. I ain't gonna do nothing to him. I ain't gonna take nothing. He say offensively. We just. It's content, and that's it. He said, I was having shots with act two weeks ago. I said, okay, thank you for.

[Big Parks]

That.

[Joe Button]

That. That changes my perspective a little bit. So shout out to.

[Big Parks]

Mano. Shout out to.

[Flip]

Mano. I mind my.

[Joe Button]

Business. Yeah, shout out to Act. What'd you.

[Flip]

Say? That's why I mind my business. I don't comment on.

[Joe Button]

Things. I would have never brought it.

[Flip]

Up.

Oh.

[Joe Button]

Assistant. I would have never. Yeah, obviously, she went.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In. I got a.

[Joe Button]

Second. She brought it up, and she don't know like, who. Who cool with who and who say, yeah, ACT and the shy rack. Yada, yada, yada.

[Ice]

Yada. But I.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. I don't suppress nobody.

[Flip]

Voice. It's good to. Yeah, she's.

[Joe Button]

Expressing. I don't suppress nobody.

[Ice]

Voice. The funny is. They on our ass because of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That.

[Ice]

Who?

[Flip]

Them. The people I beat.

[Ice]

My. Yo, y' all was scared to.

[Flip]

Death. Thank you.

[Ice]

Chinatown. Y' all scared to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Death. I was like, thank you, Chinatown.

[Joe Button]

Gangsters. I beat my own.

[Flip]

World. You trying to get rid of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me.

He gonna fry y' all.

[Flip]

Up. He's not gonna fry you up and help.

[Joe Button]

Me. But.

It'S a slow cook, like short ribs.

[Flip]

Yeah. You know, Eat that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shit. He be.

[Flip]

Good. But you play that game. Niggas know. I think, especially Act, I'm not trying to play him, but I think that when he approaches you, he approaches you with a certain amount of respect. He got love for.

[Joe Button]

You. And vice.

[Flip]

Versa. And vice.

[Joe Button]

Versa. And vice.

[Flip]

Versa. You. You vice versa as well. You fuck with act, I feel like if anybody approaching you, they have the approach with caution, cautious. They have to. You can't just shoot that joke because you all doing in such a way. This became too big. You read it. You got all.

[Joe Button]

This. I wouldn't advise nobody out there to shoot at me. I sit home with more free time than y' all because of the business I've built, and think of things to say in case y' all say something. That's the field. It's rap rules in effect. Still, that's dis record rules. Hey, if there's something I could say about this when the time come, I'm writing it down just in case. In case. I got a long list I wouldn't advise nobody, but I'm also not looking to do.

[Ice]

That. But you also. Real quick, real quick, real quick, real quick, real quick. You also noticed that a lot of people. That's part of their business model.

[Flip]

Now.

[Ice]

Yes. Like, I want that. Everything that you just said, Yes.

[Joe Button]

I should be the.

[Flip]

Exception. But he's not a rapid fire. That's what I'm about to say. He.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. The people that. That's their business model. I see what's going on and I'm not mad at. Should never be directed to.

[Flip]

Me. Like, when do you choose to respond rapidly? Like, because I know sometimes you just come and respond. Something happened, you'll respond. And I know sometimes you just let that sit. You let it sit and then respond later. So what is it? Does it depend on the popularity of the.

[Joe Button]

Person? Does it. Okay, for.

[Flip]

Sure. Got.

[Joe Button]

It. Okay. Definitely depends on the popularity. Depends on the relationship. Depends on how big their voice is. What did this person say? Do I have ax to grind with this person? Like, a lot goes into.

[Ice]

It. I got.

[Joe Button]

You. All right. I'm trying to play above the.

[Ice]

Mud, and sometimes you can see it, like, oh, they want the response. So now you.

[Joe Button]

Wait. Yeah. Some people just want to get you muddy. Some people see the traction and the action, the movement you got going on. Just want to throw a little bit of mud your way. I'm dipping that. Yep, I'm dipping that. You're not going to trick me out my spot. It was too hard to.

[Ice]

Earn. There you.

[Joe Button]

Go. Way too hard to get here. And all this reparation for. Yeah, nah. Image reparation. I'm.

[Flip]

Saying.

FBA bag.

[Joe Button]

Huh? But if there's ever a day where every podcast just want to bang, bang, bang, bang, I shot you down in Royal Rumble style. Y' all know I'm down for this. Y' all know I'm down for that. But me and act, we. We. We work together. We built. We built something. I have a healthy respect for what he does, and I think it's needed. Yeah, I think it's needed. I don't think everybody should take my.

[Ice]

Approach. See that. That's. That's a lot of the problem, like, with the flack that we getting. Like, that's what I wanted to tell a lot of folks. Nah, I have a respect for what he did to my act. Like, I respect that.

No, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about what you built without.

[Joe Button]

Help. Yo, if ACT never did the war in Chiraq, he would. He would still be.

[Ice]

Academic. He would still be.

[Joe Button]

Act. People like to hold on to that because of. And.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It'S.

[Joe Button]

It's. It's played a part, some of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. But if you eliminated act, was going to become academics. That wasn't. So this is what did it. And now I'm here. No, that's. That. That boy, his work ethic is different.

[Flip]

Yeah. You have.

[Joe Button]

To. You ain't gotta like him to recognize that his work ethic is.

[Flip]

Different. You have to meet him in order to. To appreciate that and understand that and respect.

[Ice]

That. No, you don't. No, you.

[Flip]

Don'T. I had.

[Ice]

To. But again, and this is back to another conversation that I notice, a lot of the people that don't fuck with him, who I'm talking about, that don't know him, never met him, never had a conversation with him. It's because of a certain moral thing, a street thing, and he don't fit that mold. So I don't fuck with you. It's a lot of that. It's a lot of people who hang their hat on certain things. And because he's not in that box or in that.

[Joe Button]

World. I.

[Flip]

Don'T. You think it's that.

[Ice]

Freeze. It's a lot of that, I.

[Flip]

Think, is that if you don't. I think how people look at it, if you don't live a certain way, you shouldn't talk a certain way. Because if I see you, you're not gonna talk a certain way to me like that, face to face. Because if you do talk to me like that face to face, there are repercussions. I think that's how people look at.

[Ice]

It.

[Flip]

Yeah. If you're not gonna say it to me personally when you see me, don't say it to me on the Internet. That's how people look at it. Now, that may be a skewed.

[Joe Button]

View. It is a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Skew. It is a skewed.

[Joe Button]

View. A fight never stop me from talking. You have to kill me for me to not talk no.

[Flip]

More. Different.

[Ice]

Joe.

[Flip]

Everybody. Not you.

[Joe Button]

But. But I'm saying some people are from that cloth of. All right, I went outside, I had a fight. Punch me. All right, I'm back.

[Flip]

To. There's some people that go right back to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. Hey, so I got punched in the face. Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. It ain't change.

[Joe Button]

Nothing. You punch me. I got. Right on blog TV or something with ice pack like, oh, where was we at? You know, what was we getting.

[Ice]

Into? You know why you did that.

[Joe Button]

Though? Yeah, but. Yeah, I get it.

[Ice]

Though. But yeah, come on. That was.

[Joe Button]

Different. It was bold. Still a bold, smart. Still very smart. Smart tear that paid dude up. Like said, yo, look, he's.

[Ice]

Dumb. You got. Y' all don't even see the big picture there.

[Joe Button]

Genius. But so, yeah, shout out to Mano. He was having a good time with his.

[Ice]

New. You can tell Mayo's having fun with this. He was responded again with the video where he cut the car. He was in the car and Mano's having a.

[Flip]

Blast. Got his new teeth. He feeling good, my.

[Ice]

Brother. Yeah, let have.

[Joe Button]

Fun. Go ahead now. Go.

[Big Parks]

Ahead. May know speaking of rapper, dis rules, you see, Pusha said that he doesn't want to do any more diss tracks. They're kind of dead to.

[Joe Button]

Him. I saw him say that. I'm not mad at him saying that. I don't know if I all the way agreed with why the.

[Big Parks]

Reasoning. Yeah, he basically said that he didn't want to. He doesn't want to do records with other people, let alone alone make other people the focus of his music. He feels like what him and clips are doing right now is that's. That's the path. It's. It's a next level thing. And everybody else.

[Ice]

Basically. I. I believe he believes that to an extent. I also think if something were to happen, I know Push very well.

[Joe Button]

Enough. Cause his brother's around preaching the word of God in his.

[Ice]

Ear. But he not though he is. But he not like y' all have to really listen to that. He be saying like.

[Joe Button]

He. Yeah, both niggas is evil. They on bullshit. They both evil. It's just in a godly way. Yeah, in a godly married kind of way. Because I believe that Butch is just happy being married with his kids. Like aging in hip hop. The people that are doing it correctly, it's fun to do. So I can see him not wanting to put energy into diss records anymore. But to say that he doesn't think that they can be. Have the same effect that they once did. He can't say say that because he's done disc records to make us look at the situation.

[Big Parks]

Differently. For.

[Joe Button]

Sure. We can't say that after not like us fam. The people that are gifted at disc records will always be gifted at this record for sure.

Now. I don't think it's a whole bunch of them running around that, yeah, these in a Kumbaya unit Y era hip I all that.

[Ice]

Man. I think that era is kind.

[Joe Button]

Of done that get back to smacking. Not shooting, shooting. Not shooting. Just a Little pop, pow, pow. I bought another AI record the other day because.

The girls keep playing on.

[Ice]

Instagram. They got.

[Joe Button]

You. So I did it. I bought it. So knowing this, my stance might be changing on this a little.

[Flip]

Bit. Nah, don't do that a little bit. Got a check.

[Joe Button]

Nigga. No, I have not got a.

[Ice]

Check. Timberman.

[Joe Button]

Talking. Been talking to Timbaland. I'm just saying, if they're gonna. The voices they're taking are voices from artists that I.

[Ice]

Like. You know, I think Georgia Smith just came out with something where. Going against the AI. They took her voice and like a bunch of different songwriters and put. Put some heat out, and she. She spoke out against.

[Joe Button]

That. Good. Nah, that's happening. Listen to this. And I'm pretty sure that this is AI.

But the girlies are playing it, so I keep hearing it.

You ain't gotta look at this.

All.

[Ice]

Right. That.

[Joe Button]

Sound. All right.

I walk like it's already done. Favor been attached to my name.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Since before I was.

[Joe Button]

Born.

See, I don't know who voice they took, but it's a voice of an artist that I purchased. I don't know what writing style they took, but it's the style that.

Sit down. Let me hear you R and B artist. Let me hear a little something.

So this is now the third AI record that I have.

[Flip]

Purchased. How are you so certain it's.

[Joe Button]

AI? Well, the album. The COVID normally gives it away. There's a sound that the AI records.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have. Hold.

[Joe Button]

Up. Second Mercy.

See if AI could do that. How.

[Flip]

Many? I don't even like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. You bob like.

[Joe Button]

That.

It's hard, but it's.

[Ice]

Hard. I don't want to like.

[Erick Sermon]

That. I don't want to like.

[Ice]

That. Yeah, I don't want.

[Joe Button]

To. I don't want to like it either. If we love music. Music, and I love music, and I think there'd be 20 billion horrible AI.

[Ice]

Songs. But part of what we love about music is.

[Joe Button]

Music. Our.

[Flip]

Musicians.

[Ice]

Yeah. Yo, that's where it gets tricky for.

[Erick Sermon]

Me. Kehlani just spoke against.

[Big Parks]

This.

Some credits. I don't know who Nova Soleil is, but they're credited as a vocalist. Sarai Lael is a.

[Joe Button]

Songwriter. Nova Soleil, I want to say, is a young lady. She was on the news recently. She can't saying she's the artist.

[Erick Sermon]

Behind. That's the person. That's the person.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Writing. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. It's.

[Joe Button]

Bullshit. She's the one that's putting the. Yeah.

[Erick Sermon]

That'S. Yeah, I think that's who Gayle King just interviewed or.

[Big Parks]

Something. Like.

[Joe Button]

That. Yes, exactly. That's what it.

[Erick Sermon]

Is. It's.

[Flip]

Trash. The song is not.

[Erick Sermon]

Trash. This is.

[Joe Button]

Trash. This song sounds.

[Erick Sermon]

Great. No, it sounds great. But this is trash. That we get into this.

[Flip]

Point. The fact of.

[Ice]

It. I.

[Erick Sermon]

Don'T. Joe said, I like good music. I said, okay, but I like it to come. I like my music, my good music to come from an actual product person. I don't want it to come from the computer. I don't want it.

[Big Parks]

Computerized. Okay. I don't want to. What if someone is actually writing this song and just making the computer sing it? Sing it, or execute it in a way that they can't do by themselves? What's the difference between that and using, like, sample packs or.

Sampling period or drum machines or any of the other tools that we've used to execute some that we can't execute Auto tune even with.

[Joe Button]

Sample. All that tune we put on your shit, you.

[Erick Sermon]

Never. Yeah, fuck out of here.

[Flip]

Nigga. Auto.

[Joe Button]

Tune. Y' all heard me get on.

[Erick Sermon]

This mic and do my.

[Joe Button]

Thing. Talk about it.

[Erick Sermon]

Talk. It's a difference. Auto tune is something totally.

[Flip]

Different.

[Erick Sermon]

Melody. Auto tune is something totally different. It helps in one aspect of your singing, but you're still singing. It's an enhancement to your actual gif.

AI. There is no gif there. You're just plucking like, I can go and type. Give me a Kehlani lead vocal with Brandy backgrounds and all that. And then get a whole.

[Ice]

Song. But what.

[Big Parks]

If. What if she wrote the song and even sang it, but her voice ain't good, so she had the machine pick it up and put a different voice on.

[Erick Sermon]

There? If that was the case, that's a whole different conversation. That's not the case with this person. And this person right here has been interviewed about it, and they talked about the fact that it's their lyrics, and that's.

[Joe Button]

Cool.

[Erick Sermon]

Yeah. So then you're a good poet. You should have made a.

[Big Parks]

Musician. I don't know if that's.

[Flip]

Fair. He in his tank.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bag.

[Big Parks]

Why? There's been plenty of lyricists that weren't musicians but still made great.

[Erick Sermon]

Music. But they put those lyrics behind real voices and behind real people who could actually be a real artist and really, like, attach themselves to the records. Like, now when you get these records, you can go to a show and see this. Cause who the fuck gonna.

[Joe Button]

Perform?

[Ice]

True. Yeah, but that's.

[Big Parks]

Virtual. That's the.

[Joe Button]

Point. That's.

[Big Parks]

Problem.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. As a consumer, that's not my problem. If I don't want to go I'm going to my favorite artist.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shows.

[Joe Button]

Okay. We're not going to Novae Soul.

[Erick Sermon]

Show. But we often get so caught up in just enjoying the consumption of something for our personal shit and not look at the long term effects of what it does to the industry.

[Joe Button]

Itself. Indeed. If you're looking at. From a consumer standpoint, they never are thinking about.

[Flip]

That. They don't care about.

[Joe Button]

That. They never. It ain't long before AI they stopped thinking of the long term effects and how this effect they could have on an art artist. What artist is getting paid from what? How we listen to music, how we. Okay, they've been off of.

[Erick Sermon]

That. That's fire. When I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you. I'm talking. The rest of us, who actually first off come from entertainment and come from being an artist, I expect us to have a little bit more of a push.

[Joe Button]

Against. To hold it.

[Big Parks]

Down.

[Erick Sermon]

Yeah. Because we come from.

[Joe Button]

That. But what if the AI song I want to hear, I want to listen.

[Big Parks]

To. What if you're not threatened by.

[Joe Button]

AI? I've been buying that part too. I. I've been buying human music since I was. Human music is funny. Since I.

[Erick Sermon]

Was. The fact that you're saying.

[Joe Button]

That. Let's call it. It is. That's crazy. Well, I was stealing music before I was buying it, so let's go. I've been stealing music since I was five. I bought three AI songs. Like, I still think I'm holding it down for us. Yeah, but you.

[Ice]

Are. But when you do that, play the song bop like.

[Joe Button]

That. Yeah, let's do the.

[Flip]

Music. He likes to.

[Joe Button]

Learn. No, no, no, no.

[Erick Sermon]

No. You see the message, Joe, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Know, come on, let's get back to the message. Let's get back to what we.

[Erick Sermon]

Talked about and where we're trying to take this industry to the next level. I'm not saying that there's not things that AI could be useful in. There's definitely a couple of things that we could use AI for that would help. But when you start to strip the actual artist part from this shit, I think it's a hindrance more than it's a help. I want to see great artists be attacked. Like, let's just say that was an AI creative song. And then they take that AI creative song and place it on a actual artist who's out, who can actually go perform.

[Ice]

It. I wouldn't be that mad at that. They gonna do virtual like the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gorillas. I wouldn't be mad at.

[Erick Sermon]

That. But now we get to A point where what happens when you no longer need an artist? You just have AI.

[Joe Button]

Shit. Well, I'm on the side of your. I'm always gonna be on the side of artists. So when you talking about no longer need. I think we talking about record business. Yeah, yeah, we talking about the record.

[Erick Sermon]

Business. I think everything is changing. Just, like.

[Joe Button]

How. And I don't really. I'm off the record business that should have swallowed.

[Erick Sermon]

Itself. Okay, well, just like. But just. You say that, and that's fine for you, but you've also been able to pivot in a way where you don't have to rely on the record business. So now when you speak.

[Joe Button]

To. But stay there for a second. Stay there. Because it's not just that I've been allowed to pivot. If I went to my dad's house and my little sister was in a room playing with AI and she did this, I would be doing jumper jacks. I'd be so happy and proud of her. Because there are people that can't sing or can't or not so musically inclined, but have some good ideas and are able to do something with them. I support that.

[Ice]

Too. That's the talent. We were saying there's no musical talent. Like, that's where the talent moved to now. Cause there's still a talent to be able to pick these vocals, write this song. There's still some level of talent needed to make that.

[Erick Sermon]

Happen. You will be lying to your sister and you'll be lying to the person saying that you have some kind of talent in a sense of artists. You have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some. Your talent is.

[Erick Sermon]

Right. Hold on, let me.

[Flip]

Find. Let.

[Erick Sermon]

Me. Let me.

[Big Parks]

Finish.

[Erick Sermon]

Yeah. Your talent is writing. You can write a song. I now want you to take that song and place it on a.

[Ice]

Human. I don't want to try that. What if I tried that? I'm a songwriter, wrote a song. I shot the song. I can't sell the song. I can't do nothing with it. Nobody wants the song. I. I don't have any way to get it out. I can't sing, so I can't sing the song myself. So now enter AI. And now I can go ahead and put this song out still under my name or.

[Joe Button]

Something.

What else I think is interesting. What else I think is interesting with this AI song? This one in particular is when it's humans, they gonna make us sing and rap about a whole bunch of. Of murder, kill. I'm heartbroken. We're struggling as a people. When it's AI, the song is so.

[Ice]

Positive. But that's.

Record business. You.

[Big Parks]

Talking. I also don't think that's true because this genre of music is not murder. Kill.

Like, if this was a human making this song, it wouldn't be.

[Joe Button]

About. This song wouldn't be.

[Ice]

Murder. I don't.

[Big Parks]

Know. If you put a rap song, I would be with.

[Joe Button]

You. But it also wouldn't.

[Ice]

Be. That's record.

[Joe Button]

Business. It wouldn't be written this way. That's what I'm saying. Oh, it wouldn't be.

[Erick Sermon]

Written. That's not true.

[Joe Button]

Joe. Oh, please. That's not.

[Ice]

True. Y' all are speaking to record business, though, because that's what's hot right now. That's what's. That's what works. That's what they're pushing. So tells the artist, I got to write it a certain way. You can go independent and not do.

[Joe Button]

That. Want to fight me in.

[Big Parks]

Parks? I've had this stance about AI since it scare me. The. The.

[Joe Button]

The. The.

[Erick Sermon]

Scaring. The scary part for me, because I respect what y' all saying as far as. And I know that y' all still have integrity when it comes to real artistry. So at no point do I think y' all saying this is dope means that y' all don't still appreciate the natural.

[Joe Button]

Process. Don't get scared. I'm about to buy some lab diamonds. Don't get scared yet. But I'm about to do all this.

[Flip]

Fixing. But I.

[Erick Sermon]

Do. I do think it's telling that the people who come from that are becoming more accustomed and more comfortable with having to accept that in a way that naturally we wouldn't have accepted back in the day just to fit the times. Kind of similar to how we all experiencing Warner Brothers being scared about Netflix.

[Big Parks]

Acquiring. That's a.

[Erick Sermon]

Parallel. Because the scare is okay. You're gonna now strip people from the natural movie experience, movie theater experience. And that's something that we still hold dear to us. That's something that a lot of movie creators and actors still really hold dear to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them. I believe.

[Erick Sermon]

That. Evolution, I get that. But evolution doesn't always mean it's a good thing to the people.

[Joe Button]

Who. Who.

[Big Parks]

Create. I have a couple things, in a way. Number one, I think this song sounds uninspired and flat. It sounds sonically good. That's one thing. Number two, I can't. As someone who spent the first, well, the middle part of my artistic life from, let's say, 14 till probably to some degree still today, sampling records, I can't listen to this and be like, that's blasphemy. That's horrible. When I was doing the same thing, it just in a different technological format. And number three, I can also go on stage and play multiple instruments and I know a bunch of people that can. And I will also always enjoy going to a place even if it's a local dive bar and there's a grunge band or some up there playing cover songs, I'm always going to enjoy that. So this threatens a very small sliver of the music business to me for.

[Joe Button]

You. I agree with.

[Erick Sermon]

That. Because you're only thinking of yourself at the.

[Big Parks]

Moment. I'm.

[Ice]

Not. Today, that's.

[Erick Sermon]

Today. We're not.

[Flip]

Talking. I get.

[Big Parks]

That. I.

[Ice]

Understand. Without.

[Big Parks]

Performance. We've been saying this for a million years. Records don't make money and they have it since 2004. And most of the money comes from performing live. She can't perform.

[Joe Button]

Live.

[Erick Sermon]

Okay. And then we start to condition the consumer to no longer need to see people perform live. And we can just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sit. I'm just telling, I'm just telling.

[Erick Sermon]

You like you guys are saying. There's a natural evolution that can put, put potentially get us to that point. We probably won't be around to see it and that's fine. So if we're just talking about what we enjoy for ourselves and what we can still do, that's great because I can still do all the same things that you're.

[Joe Button]

Saying. The consumer is, I'm thinking long.

[Ice]

Term. And I'm with E, yo AR and VR and all that. Yes, she can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Perform.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. No she can't. That's not the same.

[Joe Button]

Thing. In closing, I agree with Parks. I don't think that it threatens so much of real life human musicianship. I forgot my other.

[Big Parks]

Three. I think let me just pig back off that real quick and we'll close. I think it actually enhances the people that can actually go out and show the up and do some things and can actually bring people out to come do some things that will make them crown programmers. No, I'm talking about people that can go out there and rip a guitar solo and bring 30,000 people to a building. It will make them 10 times more rich. Because that's a rare commodity in a world full of nothingness and shrink.

[Erick Sermon]

Down all the other.

[Joe Button]

People. And lastly, that's what I was saying. I, I, I fear that the consumer has already stopped giving a about what happens to.

[Big Parks]

Musicians. That happened in Napster era. This has been, yeah. 30 years.

[Joe Button]

People.

[Ice]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. You see these are.

[Flip]

Streaming. Hey man, they tell you every.

[Big Parks]

Day. I just don't think that that's very good. And I don't think a rap song for something that maybe would hit home for me. I think that will sound incredibly.

In music is a beautiful thing. So that may be appealing. And there's a time and a place for that. I think that type of is great for playing in the cafe and music, basically elevator music, you know, that's. There's a place for.

[Flip]

That.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Do we want to get to. Pardon me. Paramount doing the hostel. Hostile takeover.

[Big Parks]

Bid. This is billionaire business. Boy, it's big, big, big.

[Flip]

Big.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Flip]

131. 1.

[Big Parks]

Billion. Yeah, they. I think.

[Joe Button]

They. $30 a.

[Big Parks]

Share. Didn't they basically say we'll give you.

[Flip]

Double.

[Big Parks]

Eighteen? Yeah. Pull up some. Some real stats.

[Joe Button]

Journalism. Yeah, let's do real journalism for a chain. And this is from Yahoo. Finance. Let's see what they have to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say. The winner is definitely Warner Brothers.

[Joe Button]

Discovery because you have here two very, very, very interested bidders who are willing to go all out. I think the street still views.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Netflix offer as the superior one.

[Joe Button]

But Paramount really kind of promising regulatory certainty, speed of completion and of course the financing part as well. Not to mention the fact that this is an all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cash. I don't know exactly how it's going to play out with.

[Joe Button]

Regulators. In the case of the Paramount.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Warner Brothers deal, it seems like the.

[Joe Button]

Reg. That was it. Let's see. Paramount's deal, 108.4 billion dollar all cash deal, about $30 per share to acquire all of Warner Brother Discovery's assets. Regulatory filings show that Ellison family and Redbird Capital will backstop 100% of our equity commitments or the $40.7 billion in equity required to push a deal through the three sovereign wealth funds providing capital and Jared Kushner's affinity partners. That's a lot of big.

[Big Parks]

Words. The girls are fighting.

[Joe Button]

Partners. Girls are fighting agreed to forego government rights including board seats. So they are going above and beyond is an understatement. And what they are doing to make sure that this bid does not go through.

Also also should be noted that Netflix has a $5.7 billion freeze fee for saying if any, saying if any for any reason this deal does not go through. I mean you still, you still get $5.

[Big Parks]

Billion. I saw a bunch of HBO popping up on Netflix already, so I don't know what's going on, but yeah, girls are.

[Joe Button]

Fighting. Then I saw some people just saying how whack the movie the. The 2025 would have been as A movie year if you take away all of the WB.

[Big Parks]

Movies. Oh, maybe I don't. I'm not that deep into.

[Ice]

It. Paramount said something like they would, if they, if they acquire, hired them, they would drop.

[Joe Button]

30. Yeah, that's why they're saying.

[Ice]

That. Yeah, 30 movies next.

[Joe Button]

Year.

So everybody's.

[Big Parks]

Fighting.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. This is way, way, way above my.

[Erick Sermon]

Favorite. I like the move.

[Ice]

Though. Which.

[Joe Button]

One? Which.

[Erick Sermon]

One?

[Ice]

Paramount. Paramount wants everything. They want the whole everything. Everything from your legacy cable, the tv. Oh no, I'm sorry, don't. It doesn't have that. I'm reading it.

[Joe Button]

Here. Yeah, because seeing it and all the legacy cable was rolled into its own entity not to be.

[Big Parks]

Included.

[Ice]

Right. Paramount has the full acquisition studios, streaming assets, cable networks and the businesses that Netflix will leave out. So they want the whole nine. Netflix is not touching the cable.

[Big Parks]

Channels. So that's the.

[Ice]

Difference. The difference is Netflix wants the studio and the streaming business. It says it includes the film and TV production studios, franchise franchises, libraries, hbo, hbo, Max Gaming divisions under Warner Brothers and other related assets. It excludes legacy cable and linear TV networks such as cnn, Discovery and other non streaming linear.

[Flip]

Properties. They just want to.

[Ice]

License. Those are set to be spun out into a separate.

[Big Parks]

Entity. Also. That would explain the my math. 50 billion dollar whole difference, basically. Okay, that's pretty.

[Ice]

Interesting. And offered Netflix is offering $27.75 per share and Paramount is offering.

[Big Parks]

$30. It sounds like a Netflix deal is a better deal also then you.

[Joe Button]

Still keep some of your I'm play this other clip too, even though I don't all the way agree with it. So please take it, take it with a grain of.

[Matt Stoller]

Salt. Not only do I think this is, this deal can be stopped. I don't think this deal is actually intended to go through. I think this deal is crazy. The number one streamer and the number three streamer combining and the number two being Amazon prime, which isn't really a streamer, like this is insane. It's just a merger to Monopoly and everybody knows it.

Then you throw in the fact that it's got all of this important IP that they're no longer going to be allowed to license to streamers. I mean this is just very, very obvious what is happening here. And it's obviously illegal. So the question is like, why is Netflix doing it? Right. Why is that? I don't understand why Warner is doing it, but why is Netflix doing it? And I think the answer. There's this guy on cnbc. I don't remember who it was, but I've heard this from a number of sources. When you do a deal like this, right, and you get challenged for about a year and a half or two years, the company you're buying can't do anything. They can't make any strategic moves. They have to wait to get acquired or not. And so what Netflix is doing is they're freezing their main competitor for a year and a half or two years and degrading the assets. And so for them, it's like, look, they probably won't be able to buy this company, but if they can, great, they buy a monopoly. But in the meantime, even if they don't get to buy it, they have frozen their main competitor for a year and a half or two years. So if you're selling a show or a movie or something like that, and you're like, all right, the main bidders are, you know, Netflix and hbo. Who are you going to sell to while this deal is pending? And I think that's the main question here. Like, this is really bad faith by Netflix, and I hope that the.

[Joe Button]

Doj. All right, too much hate from you, buddy. Too.

[Flip]

Much. Hey, it's.

[Big Parks]

Valid. I mean, some of this does feel monopolistic.

[Joe Button]

But. Well, that. That angle I'm not mad at. But to say that you go through all of this inorbitant action to freeze your competitor and pay the $5 billion kill fee is just it. Just that. I don't. I don't. I don't get that. And.

[Flip]

You'Re.

[Joe Button]

And. And I'm the number one.

[Ice]

Streamer. Hold on. If I got. If I got some shit in the talk for the next year, I might do that. Yeah, I'll do.

[Joe Button]

That. That's ambitious. The gentleman speaking, his name was Matt Stoller from the Ankler. Interesting theory. I just don't know if I all the way. All the way vibe with what he's.

[Erick Sermon]

Saying. If you want.

[Flip]

To.

[Erick Sermon]

What. What do you end up doing in this.

[Ice]

Situation? If I'm.

[Joe Button]

Warner. If I'm Warner. Oh, if I'm Warner, I'm still hungover from the party the last three nights. If I'm Warner, there's nothing to do but party, party, party. I have two big bidders, very serious, serious, all cash. That this is gonna change life forever, no matter which direction I go. Yeah, if.

[Ice]

I'm. If I'm Warner, I think I'll go.

[Big Parks]

Netflix. It sounds like the better.

[Erick Sermon]

Deal. That's because you hold on to.

[Ice]

The. The cable assets, and at least that. Yeah, I still hold. I still keep that. I ain't giving. I'm not giving the whole company to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'.

[Joe Button]

All. And if I got. It's true. It's making people choose between new and old guard. Right. New and old guard left and right. There's so many things that play with with both of these. I don't want the MAGA boys to see have their hands on all that shit. Yes. Who knows what they're gonna do with.

[Ice]

It. That's the other.

[Flip]

Side.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't have to be a genius to know that much about.

[Big Parks]

It. Everybody over there in that whole conglomerate has been complaining about getting shit cut off and acquiescing Trump and so on and so.

[Joe Button]

Forth. So, yeah, this is. Seems to be one of the instances where he can't come in, sign a piece of paper, and just change everything. Everything. Yeah, this is a big dick, Willie. The biggest money on the block still wins, so. And if that's Netflix, I love. I absolutely love. And just even how Netflix came about. Just new.

[Ice]

Thinking. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm with new.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thinking. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So we'll see. Something to keep an eye on, that's for sure. What else? What else? What else? What else is important, unimportant. What else do we have to get off of our chest before we come coming to a close? I did my AI. We did the Paramount hostile takeover.

[Flip]

Bid. You want to talk about the streaming wars.

[Joe Button]

Now? Yes. The Stream Awards. The racist.

[Flip]

Awards. Racist awards, stream streamers, awards, which.

[Joe Button]

Is all streaming really is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What. What racism?

[Flip]

Yes. So, I mean, the. The controversy now is that.

[Big Parks]

The. What are the streaming.

[Flip]

Awards. Yeah, Streaming awards is awards that's.

[Big Parks]

Given to streamers, but who like, presents.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them? Yeah.

[Erick Sermon]

Who'S. There's a bunch of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Different. Oh, you talking about who throws it? Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Who is the. Who is.

[Joe Button]

The. Who.

[Flip]

Knows? Oh, let me.

[Joe Button]

Check. Well, you can check what it looked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like.

[Joe Button]

Why. Why it looked interesting to me because it looked like it was a spoof award ceremony. It looked like Kai doing the university or anything that he and the big production team does for a month. It looked like that. Just with all the streamers, streamers as presenters, streamers in the audience, streamers getting the award.

[Flip]

Awards.

[Ice]

The. The 2025 Streamer Awards were organized and hosted by QT.

[Erick Sermon]

Cinderella. God.

[Ice]

Bless.

[Big Parks]

I. All.

[Flip]

Right. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. We're looking for the big bucks behind.

[Big Parks]

It. That's.

[Joe Button]

Fine. Anyway, that's my other problem with streaming. They hiding behind these kids. Not really telling you who the fuck. The big dogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for.

[Big Parks]

Sure. There's a lot of. It seems like smoke and mirrors. But I could be.

[Erick Sermon]

Wrong. Well, I know you were talking about.

[Flip]

The. Yeah, the host. I was trying to find her.

[Ice]

Name, but the host.

QT Cinderella, she is the creator and host of the Streamer Awards. She's the host of the Whine about it podcast and a co host of the Fearing podcast. Person just came up with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This.

[Flip]

Yeah. So what happened was. I guess it was QT Cinderella, right?

Kaisonet won a couple awards and during one of the awards that kaisernet won, the young lady tried to make a joke and she stated that she bombed all night. She stated that. Oh, I guess complimenting him and saying that he was in a new Diddy doc. He was in a new 50 Cent documentary. Just saying that he looks like Diddy. And Tyl got upset, grabbed the mic and said the jokes is not funny, but that's not weird. Everybody didn't like that. Nobody give a about that. No, people did give a fuck. But what happened was they're trying to say behind the scenes that Tyl threatened a girl. She's playing like woe was me that somebody said they heard Tale say some things about this lady and now he made her cry and all that. That's what's going on. This camera behavior, what they thought.

[Erick Sermon]

They was gonna happen at the Stream.

[Flip]

Awards. I don't.

[Big Parks]

Know. It sounds like a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mess. It sounds like a.

[Flip]

Mess. India Love went up there, she did.

[Erick Sermon]

Some. Something and they kicked her.

[Joe Button]

Out. She did the little mama. She. She went up there for a streamer of the year and said who she thought should win, aside from the.

[Flip]

Winner.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. It was just a lot of funny clips floating.

[Erick Sermon]

Around. There's no.

[Flip]

Writer. You can tell it's done.

[Joe Button]

Intentionally. What you.

[Flip]

Say. Do you think that was done intentionally from India Love? Yeah. Like, do you think that they set that.

[Joe Button]

Up? Part of.

[Flip]

The. No, no, no.

[Joe Button]

No. I think India Love had a little bit of that.

[Erick Sermon]

Wine. She. I think she said that a little.

[Joe Button]

Bit. She had a little bit of that wine. X was in the building. She had the rep for.

[Flip]

Him. Got.

[Joe Button]

You. She had the radio. DDG should have won. Yeah, I.

[Flip]

Know. All right, Stream award is by AT&T. HYPERX.

[Erick Sermon]

HP. Oh, so those are the names.

[Joe Button]

Behind. All.

[Flip]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Omen. I could have told you those would be the names before we found.

[Big Parks]

The name T Mobile somewhere in.

[Erick Sermon]

There. But they obviously don't have a writer. They don't have anybody over there kind of setting this forth on how.

[Joe Button]

It should look, what it should look.

[Erick Sermon]

The transitions, because it just like a free.

[Ice]

Fall. Is this the first.

[Joe Button]

One.

[Ice]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. No, no.

[Joe Button]

No. Yeah, I get the POD Awards.

[Flip]

Man.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

I'm going throw something at one of you at the POD Awards. Y' all think I turn up at the pod, Wait till the POD Awards throw it. No, I want to keep my money.

I want to keep mine. 18 at&t ain't knocking on. On Joe Button Door.

Oh, man. And that's not true. AT&T might have been one of those companies that was paying black podcasters when the whole DEI was going on, but then when it stopped, they cut the lights out on you niggas. Sorry. Anyway, shout out to all the streamers. They.

[Ice]

Won. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Salutes to.

[Joe Button]

Kai.

[Flip]

Kai. I think four out of.

[Erick Sermon]

Five. Like four out of five.

[Joe Button]

Awards. Yeah. Speed went up there, won. What did he win? He won a big one. He won a big.

[Erick Sermon]

Award. He didn't win Stream of the Year, though. I think Kyle won that, but.

[Ice]

He. He did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When. Yeah.

[Erick Sermon]

That. That Speed nigga's.

[Joe Button]

Talented. Yeah, he can do a lot of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flips. He can do a lot of.

[Flip]

Flips. No, he do a.

[Ice]

Mad. Just do everything wrestling. Like, yo, this.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. He's a real. He's a real.

[Flip]

Athlete. No, for real. No, he's. He's.

[Joe Button]

Dope. He is 100% a real.

[Flip]

Athlete.

[Joe Button]

He's. And with that comes a lot of flips. He went on stage and did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A flip, flip back flipping.

[Joe Button]

Again. Boy, he will not stop.

[Ice]

Flip. Look.

[Joe Button]

Up. He doing something. Oh my God. Did you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Think. Did.

[Flip]

You. Did you did the comic that, that lady made qt, Cinderella, whatever her name is, Takai, did it make you cringe as.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well? Like, oh.

[Joe Button]

That'S. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a cringe worthy joke. You don't take one of our most beloved, famous, young, successful black streamers who's not probably not even in his prime yet, and compare him to the most horrific doc available right now. Like, what is. What is the point? And that wasn't the only racist joke of the.

[Big Parks]

Night. No, it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was. It.

[Joe Button]

Was. It was a bunch of races sprinkled throughout throughout the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Night. It was sprinkled.

[Joe Button]

Throughout. Again, shout out to all the streamers that won and the racist.

[Erick Sermon]

Streamers. Kai shouted out, anime boy, you.

[Joe Button]

Will not let me close it. My bad.

It's tough. Tough to close something up here. Lastly, I won't call our group brother, Zier Franklin, but it is official. Philip Rivers to the Colts.

At 44 years old. You a Chargers fan, E? How you feel about.

[Erick Sermon]

It? I.

[Joe Button]

Don'T. I don't want that you don't want.

[Erick Sermon]

That.

[Ice]

No. Why.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not? He's 44 years.

[Erick Sermon]

Old. He hasn't played since what, 20.

[Big Parks]

20. 20, 20 couple.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Years. Yeah, I'm.

[Ice]

Good. He might have still, if I'm.

[Erick Sermon]

A. If I'm a Colts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fan.

[Big Parks]

No. Philip river's got about 45 kids, man. He gotta get out the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

House. Got some.

[Joe Button]

Grandkids. Joe Flocko be out there, sleep. Joe Flacco is out, out there slinging that.

[Flip]

Thing. Come.

[Big Parks]

On.

No Philip Rivers out there slinging that thing. That's why you got all them.

[Erick Sermon]

Kids. I mean, if it's just to close out the season, I guess, why.

[Big Parks]

Not? You got to do.

[Joe Button]

Something. Unfortunately, you got to do something. But.

Hopefully you can't let the season go to waste. This is their winningest year in however many years. Their backup quarterback is hurt. Danny Dimes is.

[Ice]

Hurt. You think Rivers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is. You think Philip is in. You.

[Big Parks]

Need. You need something to hold you down for at least a couple weeks. Maybe AR can come.

[Joe Button]

Back.

[Big Parks]

Maybe. I don't know. I think Dan Dimes is done for the year.

[Joe Button]

But. Yeah, I think so.

[Big Parks]

Too. You.

[Joe Button]

Need. If I'm making a decision, I need. I need somebody experienced and smart up here. I can deal with whatever you lack athletically. If you're smart and know all the plays, can read a defense, act fast. I'm. I'm begging on.

[Ice]

That. If you slow, can't act as fast as you.

[Big Parks]

Could.

They got a good old.

[Joe Button]

Line. They got Jonathan Taylor's.

[Big Parks]

Behind. They got a good tight end, Quinton.

[Joe Button]

Nelson. If there were ever a time where old man got up off the couch and put his grandkids down to come play football.

[Erick Sermon]

Again. A five year break, Joe, I.

[Big Parks]

Don'T think it'll go well, but you gotta try.

[Erick Sermon]

Something. That's a man that's been sitting home for five.

[Joe Button]

Years. No. Did you see what the Vikings look like these last two weeks with homeboy whoever Homeboy is their fourth string guy. You gotta find a guy. You can't just put any old person in at quarterback. You gotta find somebody. Yeah. That guy Justin Jefferson, man, he almost ruined my whole fantasy season. 2 points, 3 points, 4 points, 1.

[Ice]

Point. What.

[Joe Button]

Up? Yeah. No, you can't just send anybody out there. Quarterback. And I, I like the Colts. Good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Luck. I like them.

[Joe Button]

Too. There you go. There you.

[Big Parks]

Go. I'm rooting for him, but I. I don't think it's going to go the.

[Joe Button]

Greatest. But what are you feeling optimistic about? I hate that. I hate that. As soon as you sat down on the main we hit you with a few topics that you just seem like aggressively pessimistic.

[Flip]

Toward. Like you got the hat on the eye.

[Joe Button]

Shit. Philip Rivers, Extreme rules. Zara up their prices. Like what, what. What is going. What positive is going.

[Flip]

On? Life.

[Joe Button]

Man. What are you feeling optimistic.

[Flip]

About?

[Erick Sermon]

Life.

[Flip]

Creating. You looking good.

[Joe Button]

Bro. Creating.

[Flip]

Back. Got your nails.

[Joe Button]

Done. You can tell when Chicago booked him again. The.

[Flip]

Out.

Yeah, he got a man. Chicago got the ade Got the Chicago Michael.

[Joe Button]

Jordan. Oh, that's how I.

[Flip]

Got. I'm dog talk to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And he got the jump mans. Come on.

[Flip]

Man.

Hey, real.

[Big Parks]

Quick. Y. I'll take the shits off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And throw it at you right.

[Ice]

Now. That's play with.

[Joe Button]

Me.

You say the Justin Jordan brand.

[Flip]

Right? I don't know what these are those out the book? The jump. No, these out. No, it's a Spike Lee. Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man. Wait, let me.

[Big Parks]

See. Whoop. The.

[Joe Button]

Front.

[Flip]

Uhoh. What's wrong with them?

What's wrong wrong with.

[Joe Button]

Them? They're the ones they the one. They are the ones they bad work. Yeah, yeah. You're not supposed to wear the.

[Flip]

Ones.

Man. You too SM for.

[Joe Button]

That. They look just like the real.

[Flip]

Ones. Oh, you can tell? Seriously, Stop humping.

[Joe Button]

Bro. Get some.

[Flip]

Sneakers. Yo, stop humping.

They sit in the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Closet. It. I wanted to put some on real quick and I put them.

[Joe Button]

On. Whatever. Get.

[Flip]

It? I even you don't wear Jordans no.

[Joe Button]

More. Because I made that mistake.

[Flip]

Before. Me too. Back in the.

[Joe Button]

Days. Yeah, back in the day. I bought those, went.

[Flip]

Outside. It's a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jumpman. They're not.

[Joe Button]

Fake. They're not fake, but they're the jump.

[Big Parks]

Mans. Oh, I.

[Joe Button]

See. So.

[Erick Sermon]

Technically. So for these, I'm not supposed to wear.

[Flip]

Them? Not Imani. Not with a.

[Joe Button]

Rolly. We too cool for.

[Flip]

Jumpman. Not with a rolly.

[Joe Button]

On. But I'm not mad at you. You get too.

[Ice]

Much. I'm too cool.

[Erick Sermon]

For. I'm too cool to just wear whatever I want to wear.

[Ice]

Right? Not with the.

[Flip]

Rolly. Not with the R. Rosie Perez shout.

[Joe Button]

Out. Why always take a sip after they face. What is going on up here? Ishmar.

Oh my.

[Flip]

God. Hey, I just want to make a correction though real quick. Cuz they don't kill us. The host of that, the lady that did it, her name was Fan Fan. Not the.

[Erick Sermon]

Cutest. Oh, it's not.

[Joe Button]

Cute. We don't give a about fan fan or them killing us.

The attack of fan fans fans. They be deep though.

Hey, guess.

[Ice]

What? Guess.

[Big Parks]

What? Power.

[Ice]

Off. Power.

[Joe Button]

Off. What do you Mean we don't have to read what they.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say. When's the last time you powered.

[Joe Button]

Off?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Recently.

[Big Parks]

Really? I be off a.

[Ice]

Lot. For real yesterday, dead.

[Big Parks]

Ass. I just let my die and let it be.

[Flip]

Off. Oh, he powered.

[Joe Button]

Off. No, I ain't added a little.

[Big Parks]

Power off that die and be.

[Joe Button]

Dead. I be arguing with, well, not my girl and I'm hit it with bang. She call that 9 million times you got to power.

[Flip]

Off. Yeah, I tweet through all.

[Erick Sermon]

That. I ain't powering off of.

[Flip]

You. That's back to back.

[Big Parks]

Call. I like real life back to.

[Joe Button]

Back. Yeah, real life is.

[Big Parks]

Dope. It's.

[Joe Button]

Fire. It.

[Ice]

Is. Life is.

[Joe Button]

Lit. I wanted to talk about something that Kevin on stage said, but we can get to that. On Patreon, he was talking about just how he remembers his failures a lot more than his successes, even when they were recent. I thought it was a real interesting clip, but we'll talk on Patreon. Let's get the sleepers, man. Let's do some sleepers and get out of here and call it a day. I was very delighted to learn that my girl, I absolutely love her. Hombre put out a new joint the other day. I'm not gonna beat y' all down. This record is called.

They better stop playing with ombre. That's for sure.

We come from different, different places. But I know your language ain't gotta say much you just want me to save.

I think she want that work.

Trying to make it work I only make it worse. Give her what she deserves.

Come back but she ain't coming back.

Come back but she ain't coming back?

You can't make the mess with no supply you'll it up again even if she let you try. Could you please t a visa? Lay up, give her some face time. By her waistline I could do it blind she could see a whole lot with my even when we don't see.

She can do no.

Let her get whatever she want.

Just as long as she's coming home.

That was ombre. That record is called she chef's kiss for including a bridge and not bringing the chorus back after just ending it after the bridge abridged on a 2 minute and 30 second joint. I gotta tip my hat to you, Andre. Absolutely amazing. Thank you. You're fire. Can't wait to hear what you got coming.

[Ice]

Next. Not mad, not mad. Excuse me. I'm gonna play one of I keep telling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y'.

[Ice]

All. Tory Lanez has been dropping records non stop since he since he started his bid and he's currently up to 84 songs on the lost.

[Flip]

Tapes.

[Ice]

Damn. And this one is called Variables. Just came out last.

[Tory Lanez]

Week.

Knocking and texting my phone can't believe this shit is real but you hear the stress in my tone Hoes get flat in the flow I'm too rich at this point to ever invest in a loan Someone take the lights and different the settings I'm setting my tone Even when setting the tone all of my lessons are shown Beating improves better but never thought less of my own Ever had a stress so much that you gotta stress on your own? I don't get in bed with business, I rather rest on my own I take a swig of this weed you couldn't picture my fees number so big you hold your face like you hitting the sneeze see me and bow down till they forehead was hitting they knees Pity yes I'm that nigga indeed I'm trying to leave but a getting deep I'm talking, I don't share no combos or characters I'm way above y' all, I'm doing aerials, I think about my goals, the variables everything is untraced the only thing that seem to bring me peace is seeing my son face Cause he gonna be me one day except his soul's pure and mine is probably as shitty as old manure I sent my baby mama having sore to buy the store Cause I owed it to her I know the pain from that purchase ain't gonna be worse than this she go through when I go on tour crowd going roaring it's all all these on the floor and they asked me to go and raw and tell you what's worse is them all look like virgins Dizzy, lapping up, falling in my suburbans it's that I that I wish I could take my body back up it I'm a version these days and hoes that I play Versace roll When I came looking at the world from red you got the globe in my face all of my diamonds air big dial and they glow in the face and anytime I talk to spy it just go with the base money installed in the case if I get close to your face shorty get close to my waist what type of game are we playing when eight months back most of y' all was holding y' all face? Hatred thrown in my face Sucking dick inside my car I'm rolling up my cigar Cause both me and my blood both getting blown in the wraith all of my that's with me I give the code in my Safe all of my they got it cut. No poking my lace stroking my ego then I'm stroking they face I come from the jumbo where they left open the ace yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah.

And that is Tory Lane's variables off of the lost.

[Big Parks]

Tapes. All right, I'm going to go to this Eric Sermon album that I was talking about. The proper name is Dynamic Duos. This is with Bread and Meth. This is. Look at.

[Joe Button]

Him. It's sp time.

Meth spell trouble.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

Yeah funk lordy and what's good.

Yeah look I give a bad name, a bad name, a bad boy and this bad boy do bad things. You rap dudes missing the the point it's bad aim if I'm missing the point and I'm just having a bad game Things change since the cash came I added blaze to my last name Smack flames out of rappers you mad rappers is mad lane no cap homie that dying on me don't act strange, marvel at me I'm lowkey but gang gang brother got a hammer provoke me then bang bang press the lead on your main frame you lame brains in these five pearls it's a different world Dwayne Wayne Dean but I'm harder son I tell a hater to get a life before one you need to stop it where you started from? Cause y' all don't get how I get it where I got.

[Ice]

It. You thought A wasn't gonna survive, huh? I proved that the devil was alive huh My ig live is on fire, huh? That's why I'm the you with my look at him. Okay.

Let's go. Yo, I hustle hard but I'm track free good life booty calls like back street I carry 19 without the vaccine I'm on real time exactly Madagascar how build the catalog I ain't lying when I eat I'm an animal I got a Hitchcock belly from hip hop and you lip syncing with flip flops on Tick tock yo I motivate my whole song city I'm making the bears cheesecake the old diddy you young boy still split 5050 a boss never do 5050 you can't copy the God design sure I know my pink got a beautiful mind stop I say stop I say my intel Lil Denzel he got game thought A wasn't going to survive huh I proved that the devil was alive my ig live is on fire that's why I'm the you admire look.

[Joe Button]

At.

[Big Parks]

Him.

Let's look at him. Eric sermon Meth Redman Dynamic duo's Album is out now and it's got some dope on it. Check that thing out. Check that thing.

[Joe Button]

Out. Some good old human.

[Big Parks]

Music. Humans. Human.

[Erick Sermon]

Music. Humans are still doing.

[Big Parks]

It. They.

[Joe Button]

Are.

Human.

[Ice]

Music.

I was telling Joe about the. The show the other night, the.

[Big Parks]

One I hit you about, bro. I was tell you I was mad you sent.

[Ice]

Me. I was like, yo, what I told. I said, yo, stop sending me videos. Yeah, Raekwan and mob deep had a.

[Big Parks]

Show. It was celebrating only built and.

[Flip]

Infamous Raekwan and havoc on.

[Ice]

Tour. They want to talk about ghost face, meth N.

[Flip]

Locks. Wait, I didn't know about.

[Ice]

It. I didn't know about it.

[Big Parks]

Either. It was a Sunday so I.

[Ice]

Don'T know if I just.

[Flip]

Passed. Where they at it at in.

[Matt Stoller]

Brooklyn?

[Big Parks]

Brooklyn. Paramount.

[Ice]

Right? Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Brooklyn. I think it's.

[Erick Sermon]

Paramount. Yeah, Paramount on some.

[Ice]

Good. They.

[Big Parks]

Do. They got a lot of.

[Ice]

Good.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

I. I might have went to that. If I knew.

[Ice]

About. I would have went to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. I definitely would have.

[Ice]

Went. I would have went to.

[Big Parks]

That. It brought a NS for verbal intercourse.

[Joe Button]

Bro.

That'S.

[Big Parks]

Crazy. That's enough. That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Enough. I saw.

[Ice]

That. I hit Parks like, yo, you at that show. He like what show? I was like, yo man, my peoples is there and they sending me.

[Joe Button]

Videos, bro, just look if it ain't Bad Bunny and.

[Ice]

Romeo. Nah.

[Big Parks]

Parks. I go to a lot of.

[Ice]

Shows. Park at the Wu Tang. He been. I think if we known Romeo.

[Big Parks]

Was there if I know I have been that.

[Joe Button]

Much. Yeah.

[Ice]

You. I ain't going to let.

[Big Parks]

You. A Sunday night would have been a little tough though. I'm not going to.

[Ice]

Lie. I'd have made that.

[Big Parks]

Happen. I probably would have.

[Joe Button]

Too. But listen, man. Good episode today.

[Ice]

Man. Yes.

[Joe Button]

Sir. Ish. We hope you feel.

[Flip]

Better. We love you.

[Joe Button]

Ish. Mark. We hope you get.

[Flip]

Better. Love you.

[Joe Button]

Mark. Keep us in your prayers, man. Each and every one of us need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do farewell I cerebra dirche Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long goodbye. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Have.

Last but certainly not.

[Joe Button]

Least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to trap and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol.

What y' all doing this week?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anything?

No, I'm not going this.

[Joe Button]

Week. Yeah, for all you playback out there. Don't worry. I had it queued up. I had it queued up. Playback has come to an end. I'll get to it on Patreon. Cause y' all homies. But it's queued up. Y' all not exempt. Damn. Wait.

[Big Parks]

What? I'm about to buy.

[Joe Button]

Pictures. No, I got. Still got to play to beat.

[Ice]

This. They sent the email around.

[Flip]

Yesterday. Playback is.

[Ice]

Over. Playback is.

[Joe Button]

Over.

[Big Parks]

Damn. I didn't get the email.

[Flip]

So.

[Ice]

Really?

[Joe Button]

But. All right, well, after you go ahead now. You can talk over.

[Ice]

It. I think they got a plan because the email says the end of Playback back for now. And then it says, thank you. Dear Playback creator, as you may have already learned, Playback will sadly be going offline this Friday. For a detailed explanation of this decision, there's a blog post to summarize. Despite our best efforts, we have been unable to grow this platform at the rate required to secure more funding. As a result, we're in the process of moving Playback's team and technology into a bigger media company. Our hope is we'll be able to rebuild the magic of Playback's Watch Party experience with the benefit of more rights and resources in the near future. But in the meantime, we have no choice but to sunset the current Playback.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Platform. Hey, man, we.

[Joe Button]

See. We see the play, right?

I hear all that. You that had shows coming this week on Playback. You ain't exempt from this. Freddie Mercury.

It was a good run, man. It's going to be a lot of dominoes falling, a lot of mergers, a lot of.

[Ice]

Purchases. That's all I hearing. It's time to move it over here to them. Somebody come invite.

[Joe Button]

Up. But there were a lot of good creators over there on Playback, really enjoying the platform. Hopefully they bounce back and get it.

[Big Parks]

Together. I'm sure they.

[Joe Button]

Will. Oh, second verse. Go.

[Big Parks]

Off. Get his.

[Flip]

Off. That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crazy.

[Ice]

Okay.

All right. Maybe don't do the DJ.

[Joe Button]

Set. Yeah, that was horrible. Until next time, man. Y' all hold it down. We'll be back same time, same place, Saturday. Here you go.

Again. Rest in peace, heavy d. Rest in peace. Eldon campbell, trouble t warrior and all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

Hey, top five. We'll fold that up right.

[Flip]

Now. Don't look away.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now.

Don't look away now.