Episode 887 | "Not My Humblest Day"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 887 | "Not My Humblest Day"

Date: December 17, 2025
Host: Joe Budden
Cast: Ish, Parks, Flip, Mark, Freeze, Ian
Produced by: The Joe Budden Network

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Episode Overview

The 887th episode of The Joe Budden Podcast, titled "Not My Humblest Day," brings Joe and his random crew together for their usual banter, candid group therapy, and in-depth takes on both personal and cultural moments. The episode is tinted with reflective energy, discussing how age changes their style, recent media shakeups in hip hop and NYC radio, and navigating humility, ego, and change—both on a personal level and within the industry. Listeners are also treated to a fresh round of hip hop album talk, current event breakdowns, memories, and signature off-the-cuff humor.

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Highlights & Key Segments

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1. Off-Mic Antics, Humility & Aging (00:33 - 13:00)

• The episode kicks off with the group joking about their pre-show antics, hairlines, and styling habits as they age.
• Joe, Flip, Ish, and Parks roast each other about balding, brushing, and hypotheticals about hair transplants and toupees.
• Much love is given to people in their 40s and 50s, reflecting on how Black culture, fashion, and outward appearances change with age.
• Quote:
  Ish: "In our 50s now, it’s just different…I’m having a blast." (09:21)

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2. Holiday Vibes, Tax Jokes, and Expensive Gifts (10:03 - 21:00)

• The cast slides into running jokes on tax season, holiday shopping, and the guilt of receiving fancy gifts as grown men.
• Debates on expensive sheets, gifts between friends, grown-up Christmas lists vs. reality.
• The group reminisces about last year’s gifting episode, memorable presents received, and how Joe expects sentimental (not expensive) gifts.
• Quote:
  Joe Budden: "Buy me a gift on Christmas…But don’t get me poor people gifts." (18:28)

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3. Humble Brags & Honest Ego (21:16 - 23:46)

• Joe and Ish embrace the episode title, candidly admitting that their days haven’t always been modest.
• Discussion on enjoying success and letting it show unapologetically at home, even when nobody’s watching.
• Quote:
  Ish: “I don’t think people ever say it…Not my humblest day. That’s just how niggas be carrying it.” (21:38)
• The group acknowledges the importance of each cast member in creating their successful year.
• Quote:
  Joe Budden: "I can’t deliver that or be the dynamic self I am here without you guys." (23:39)

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4. Current Media Moves & Radio Shakeups (45:59 - 61:12)

• [46:20] Discussion about the shakeup at Hot 97: Ebro, Rosenberg, and Laura's show moves to YouTube after an unceremonious end.
• [48:01] Joe questions whether immediately launching a new show is the best move, suggesting sometimes it pays off to let anticipation build and recalibrate.
  • "It’s more important to get it right than to do it fast." (48:41)
• The crew debates whether layoffs and sudden endings are ever a surprise, referencing ratings, new corporate owners, and the importance of reading the writing on the wall.
• Conversation on how corporations often prioritize profitability over culture—leading to the watering down of hip hop and radio traditions.
• Quote:
  Joe Budden: "Culture is cool, but it's free to say true...It’s a blessing when you bump into somebody who’s in that position and loves hip hop.” (57:02)

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5. Industry Shakeups (75:07 - 78:40)

• Farewells to NYC radio legends: Ed Lover and Ms. Jones lose their shows days before Christmas, sparking a heartfelt tribute.
• Group reflects on how media companies show little loyalty or tact, even with long-serving hosts.
• Quote:
  Flip: “To let these people go two weeks before Christmas is a testament…without even a statement. That is crazy.” (78:59)

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6. Hip Hop Commentary: New Music, Rankings & Debates (111:01 - 133:52)

• The group analyzes B.Dot’s annual “Best Rappers” list, offering their takes on who was snubbed, who was overrated, and how presence, skill, and features were weighed.
• A passionate debate ensues over the likes of Cardi B, Chance the Rapper, Larry June, 2 Chainz, and others.
• Discussion around first-day-out rap records and their cultural resonance (Gucci Mane, T Grizzly, JT).
• Quote:
  Freeze: “Chance the Rapper out rapped the majority of that list.” (129:36)

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7. Sports & Fights: Banner Debates & Boxing Predictions (82:06 - 103:56)

• The crew weighs in on the relevance of the NBA in-season tournament and if the Knicks should display their potential win as a major banner.
• Preview and debate of the upcoming Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua boxing match, questioning legitimacy, spectacle, and what it means for both men’s legacies.
• Quote:
  Ish: “If Anthony Joshua is who y’all say he is, then why is he taking this fight?” (102:51)

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8. TV/Streaming Recommendations (178:03 - 188:18)

• Impassioned breakdown of Mayor of Kingstown’s newest episode—spoiler warnings included.
• Strong recommendations for The Morning Show, Landman, and anything by Taylor Sheridan.
• Quote:
  Ish: "That’s one of them shows where it don’t take long to see why this is one of the better shows out.” (187:55)

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9. Reflections on Mental Health, Tragedy & Loss (155:44 - 177:38)

• The group sends support to streamer Kai Cenat after he publicly discusses his mental health struggles.
  • “To be running a billion dollar empire at your early 20s…that’s a stress…” (159:49)
• A lengthy, heartfelt reflection on the tragic murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, its emotional impact, mental health in families, grief during the holidays, and the failure of political leaders to respond appropriately.
  • “It’s not leadership. What they think American mean and what I think it means is two different things.” (167:51)
• Several rest-in-peace tributes, including Carl Carlton and actor Peter Greene, spark conversations about giving legends their flowers while alive.

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10. Signature Group Banter: Code Switching & Social Navigation (139:44–147:50)

• Jokes and self-awareness about professional “code-switching” (changing behavior or speech depending on company), with the group ranking who among them does it most.
• Quote:
  Joe Budden: “Mark will code switch socially. Has to be number one for me.” (144:32)
• Ends with a playful voicemail roast and debates about voice inflection and switching up for the business world or family.

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11. Rapid-Fire: Miscellaneous Topics (193:41–204:39)

• Quick takes on Bobby Shmurda’s recent scuffle in Minnesota and the risks of traveling/performing in unfamiliar cities.
• Holiday plans, Christmas shopping, the pressure of keeping up with big gifts, and envelope gifts as the ultimate (but acceptable) adult solution.
• Light jokes about home and neighbor proximity, elevators, and group reflections on life.

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Notable Quotes

• “I’ve been in my house as unhumble as could possibly be…and I don’t think people ever say it. Not my humblest day.”—Ish (21:38)
• “It’s more important to get it right than to do it fast.”—Joe Budden (48:41)
• “Culture is cool, but it’s free to say true…It’s a blessing when you bump into somebody who’s in that position and loves hip hop.”—Joe Budden (57:02)
• “To let these people go two weeks before Christmas is a testament…without even a statement. That is crazy.”—Flip (78:59)
• “Chance the rapper out rapped the majority of that list.”—Freeze (129:36)
• “If Anthony Joshua is who y’all say he is, then why is he taking this fight?”—Ish (102:51)

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Closing Thoughts

The episode balances carefree moments with sobering reality, always underpinning its laughter with reflection and realness about life, business, culture, and friendship. From industry commentary to existential musings, comedic tangents to hard-hitting truths, Episode 887 exemplifies The Joe Budden Podcast’s unique, still-unscripted magic.

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Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Here he. From this point moving forward, all words are being recorded.

[Ish]

We've been off Mike having a slice. Yeah, the audience hates when that happens. Sorry, especially the patronies. But yes, we've been having a blast.

[Joe Budden]

The jokes have been flying, and now it's silence of the lambs.

[Mark]

Look at the.

[Joe Budden]

Look at the lambs.

[Ish]

Look at the lambs now.

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Flip]

Jesus, Shepherd.

[Ish]

We were doing. We were doing our last looks. Last looks means phones away.

[Parks]

You could.

[Joe Budden]

The honorable Muhammad, he'll. You could put your phone away. He always.

[Ish]

Cuz, you know, he texting somebody important, you know, talking about something.

[Joe Budden]

I'm at work right now.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's one of them.

[Flip]

Elijah Muhammad, bro.

[Ish]

Oh, but that's not how the mothership. Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

So we were doing last looks. Ish was over there brushing his hair. He asked somebody if he could use their brush.

[Parks]

Ask somebody.

[Joe Budden]

Flip, nigga, I didn't know if it was you or Mark. I didn't know. All right.

[Ish]

Why you have a brush?

[Joe Budden]

Don't worry.

[Parks]

Let's get to it.

[Mark]

Go ahead.

[Parks]

My shit.

[Flip]

Fine.

[Parks]

It got me a brush. My shit used to look granny.

[Ish]

You did start brushing your beard recently?

[Parks]

Yeah. All right, get back to the story.

[Ish]

So anyway, so he used Flip's brush. He start brushing his hair. He hit the sides, he hit the back. He hit the corner.

[Joe Budden]

Corners.

[Ish]

And he hit the top. So that's my man. I'm like, homeboy, you don't need to brush for. For all them spots no more.

[Freeze]

No, no, you could now.

[Ish]

You don't need it. You hitting the top. And I'll keep hold. But you don't have to. Well, no, you go.

[Freeze]

Keep letting go, too.

[Flip]

My shit coming back, bro.

[Parks]

No, would you go bowl?

[Ish]

You went to Turkey. You would. You gonna.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

He got a trip planned.

[Mark]

That's why he do nothing for his birthday. He coming back with a full head of hair.

[Flip]

Yeah. Yo, with the dreads like Len.

[Mark]

Hey, yeah.

[Parks]

Hey. I want you first, though. We gonna know. You can't hide it. Nigga don't wear no hats. You try to wear a hat one time, we gonna know. We gonna know.

[Freeze]

All right.

[Mark]

I don't care.

[Parks]

Would you a bald Headed.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but at a certain age you can't wear the hats no more, right? Cause then we teen your citizens who don't wear hats.

[Freeze]

You can't wear hats no more.

[Flip]

What age is that?

[Joe Budden]

57.

[Freeze]

Fuck no.

[Ian]

That's when you just get a classier hat.

[Parks]

Yeah, you get the little dango. Shit, the little.

[Flip]

How old is.

[Joe Budden]

There's a 58 year old man on Instagram right now that put teen your citizen outfits on. And he posted, posted big ch. He looked good.

[Ish]

I thought he looked good. Boy, they flamed his ass. They flamed him up in the comments.

[Joe Budden]

So then he was in the comments clapping back.

[Ish]

They said, ooh, he's sassy.

[Joe Budden]

Like he dressed. And I'm talking shit. I'll probably have a hat on it.

[Flip]

Hey bro, in our 50s now, it's just different.

[Ish]

Wait, you're the only one.

[Mark]

Slow down.

[Joe Budden]

Don't nail.

[Ish]

Don't nail me.

[Flip]

I'm not even saying.

[Parks]

Sound like you're the only one. Lord.

[Ish]

So then, then make it young.

[Freeze]

When we was in our.

[Flip]

When people was in their 40s, when we was kids, they didn't wear the shit that we wear today. Culture was different.

[Mark]

Yeah, they dressed like adults.

[Parks]

Yeah, them niggas dressed like grown folks.

[Flip]

Niggas out here now be 50 years old with some fucking.

[Ish]

That's not great.

[Flip]

Double sole Timbs in a sweatsuit.

[Joe Budden]

My mom friends was coming to the crib and Dapper Dan shit.

[Parks]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

And if Dapper Dan was open right this second, guess who would be up there.

[Flip]

Your mom's in them shit.

[Freeze]

Me talking about him.

[Ish]

He opened.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm old. We old. But anyway, I do believe it's going to get his hair back.

[Ish]

So anyway, that led us to Toy. I asked them if they seen TI Cause TI the other day. Don't get quiet.

[Mark]

Ever holler or something, man.

[Parks]

It was loud footage to joint.

[Ish]

Somebody was like what T.I. did and they was like took a hat off. T.I. was on stage and they caught him at an unfavorable angle. Stupid ass camera phones. This wouldn't have happened back in the Star Trek tech days. But they caught him and, and the, the top, the, the sunroof was back to back.

[Joe Budden]

The sunroof. And it looked funny when you got braids. And it's like that.

[Ish]

Cause we never knew. I'm still looking at TI like no one on the corner got swagger like but niggas on the corner do. On the corner got hair. They got a full. So yeah, the room had a, the Room had a blast. It make you look at different. The pandemic made me look at different, too. Once y' all couldn't put all the dye into Beijing. Your barber, your man. You niggas was looking.

[Joe Budden]

She was looking a little different.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mark]

So ish. If your shit get to that point, to the Sherman Hemsley level. Are you George Jefferson?

[Parks]

I know Sherman Hemsley.

[Mark]

I forgot how old you was. Will you cut it then?

[Flip]

I don't know. I'll just close.

[Freeze]

So what would you do?

[Ish]

He can do what the pretty boy niggas did. They gonna try to get that super fade. Bald Caesar. You know the season is coming.

[Parks]

Yo, bro, if you get that toupee. Ish. Tell me, bro. Cause you look like you playing.

[Mark]

Oh, right. He got that. He got. Yeah, you might get the toupee.

[Ish]

Oh, the curly toupee.

[Freeze]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[Parks]

You looked into that. You sick.

[Joe Budden]

Some of them barbers, they blended in some of this.

[Ish]

Hey, they'll never know.

[Freeze]

I'm trying to find a couple of these. Was crazy.

[Flip]

That man Louis J in there. Louis J. Had this.

[Freeze]

That was out.

[Parks]

He said it.

[Flip]

Oh, that was glued on. That was shaped up. Had waves and everything.

[Ish]

Go Louie J.

[Mark]

That's what you gonna do.

[Parks]

Oh, you in the gym?

[Flip]

No, I wouldn't do it.

[Parks]

I stuff you, boy.

[Joe Budden]

I'm in the gym, too.

[Parks]

I'm in the gym, too. Hey, why you got these couches back? My back hurt.

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Parks]

I saw what you did. Why you got the couch back?

[Ish]

Cause it's Tuesday.

[Mark]

The bigger couches on Friday.

[Ish]

Couch for sure. Oh, my. Y' all both said the same thing.

[Parks]

But listen, baby, but here's the thing.

[Mark]

No, my bad.

[Parks]

The couches was here. Was falling asleep. Cuz. You is boring.

[Ish]

Huh?

[Parks]

So when Tuesday come, he gotta be able to make sure I sit right so I can be able to carry you.

[Ish]

You. There you go. I'm riding with Flip.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Freeze.

[Ish]

I'm with Flip.

[Parks]

Not with you, too. I'm against this now.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Freeze]

All right, well, we ain't get him then him.

[Mark]

That's fine. Me.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, that's crazy.

[Parks]

He brought it back to where you hit this at, bro? Where you hit it at? Where all this shit at?

[Joe Budden]

It's gone. You gave it away. It's personal.

[Parks]

Okay, fair enough.

[Ish]

Personal.

[Mark]

Fair enough.

[Joe Budden]

It's not here. Yeah. Nah, we ain't getting no new cow. I'm ain't getting no new couch till my man's got a new couch they talking about.

[Ian]

What's that be so they couch is.

[Ish]

Coming when they couch is here. My couch, my.

[Freeze]

You had a new couch for two months.

[Ish]

You don't give a about the staff.

[Parks]

So when a big ya make it seem like the. The nigga try to big y' all up, y' all kick his back at.

[Joe Budden]

No, they. They. They pardoning being performative.

[Ish]

I like that. They've known me long enough to know.

[Joe Budden]

That what came in here was a casual day at the Restoration outlet. Seeing something just on a humbug, trying something.

[Ish]

If anybody gonna know, then these brothers gonna know when Joe Budden in real life picked the couch couches and brought.

[Joe Budden]

It in here with the tables. And y' all like, come on. We kiki a lot.

[Ian]

I mean, they sleep in your feng shui.

[Ish]

They not. But part of the gig. They getting it off. I'm having a blast.

[Parks]

They're not gonna let me get away with that.

[Ish]

It's part of the stick. It's part of the stick.

[Ian]

I feel like sleeping on your feng.

[Ish]

No way.

[Joe Budden]

If any.

[Ish]

No way. Don't say that. Wait, I can't.

[Parks]

He get hype. Oh, shit.

[Ish]

It almost works.

[Flip]

This nigga stupid.

[Ish]

Nah, y' all can't. Y' all can't. Y' all can't. For health reasons, I can't give.

[Joe Budden]

I can't with y' all today. But you almost got me.

[Ish]

He know. No, he not.

[Ian]

I don't know. That face, that little smirk is. I don't really respect his feng shui.

[Ish]

Tell him, but tell him.

[Flip]

Moving along.

[Ish]

I can't clear up the lie. Cause I think he lying on my man.

[Flip]

What's the lie? I mean, what's the question?

[Ian]

Are you sleeping on this feng shui?

[Freeze]

No, Ms. Faye.

[Ish]

Get busy.

[Freeze]

Oh, all right.

[Ish]

See, Just one of them days. Nah. Okay.

[Parks]

Just one of those days.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Freeze]

Nah.

[Ish]

He went crazy right there.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

Shout out to Ms. F. Yeah. Shout out to my mom. Shout out to my mom. You piece of holy.

[Mark]

Well played, sir.

[Ish]

I see what type of mood y' all in.

[Mark]

I see what type of mood they in.

[Ish]

Me too, though. I'm with it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

It's the vibe I'm on right now, man. Some old school playing by the rules. I'm coming home. Yeah. I mean, on some 92 El Dorado shit coming through. Man, back in the day when you had to get the new car, you just had to drive it through the app just so they could look at you for a second before anybody got guns. Hope we feeling good and feeling great. So happy to be here with y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Ish]

Hey. 40 and up 40 and up, 50 and up out there. Shout out to patronies on the subgroups. Everybody that was alive in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Parents and grandparents out there.

[Freeze]

Whoa.

[Ish]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Oh, yeah. Talk about it, Marvin. Every Marvin song still applies. Tax time too mean. Every one of your dollars in January is probably 20 cent, 30 cent, you're done. It's time now. They're coming for it.

[Flip]

Yo, you done mentioned taxes. About 18 pods in a row.

[Freeze]

They cracking.

[Ian]

As they do.

[Ish]

They kick your ass. Yo, me, me. I can tell y' all what the number is for it all to be the same. I can tell you what number you gotta earn. That boy learning that shit. Look for it all to be that 38%. He ain't wrong, not at all.

[Flip]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

I know y'.

[Ish]

All.

[Flip]

It's not we, though. No, Sh. A Paul Francais.

[Ish]

It is we.

[Flip]

No, no, it's y'.

[Freeze]

All.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you pull.

[Ish]

Oh, that Rob. Oh, man. Yo, shout out to wherever you might be listening From Happy holidays to you. If you going through something, we praying for you out there.

[Joe Budden]

Get better.

[Ish]

You've never heard of Joe Button Mike Shape? One, two, one, two. Yes, sir. It's one of them beats make everybody. Every rapper voice sound good. Y' all know what time it is.

[Mark]

When this is on.

[Ish]

Shout out to you listening in the car right now.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Ish]

Everybody up. Cleaning right now. Getting to it. Getting to work. No matter what work is. No matter what work look like. Yo, for the people watching out there, don't get it fucked up. This is the special holiday. Ola. It's not an ad Stunt on them. It's not an ad. It's just not one of them that you can find in Target, man. It's sold out. It's sold out. The shiny cranberry. I mean, put the white up for a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

I don't care.

[Parks]

Ish.

[Ish]

I don't give a. Tell these niggas. He's in your bag.

[Ian]

Special cup.

[Parks]

Let me see.

[Ish]

Show him. With a real special cup.

[Joe Budden]

Let me see.

[Ish]

He's got the special. That's that Ish.

[Parks]

Hey.

[Ish]

Whole whale. Me and Ish be killing Mark on the intangibles.

[Joe Budden]

Look at Mark up.

[Ish]

I do.

[Joe Budden]

Look at Mark. Mark.

[Mark]

You touch a bum, I got the homies.

[Ish]

You touch a bright bum.

[Ian]

It's not even the fly bodega.

[Ish]

Look at the Greek on it. Yo, Mark his cup and Cult game like, we gotta this, man, be killing.

[Mark]

My coats all weekend. I got to go buy one. Just. I said those guys.

[Ish]

Yeah, no, come on. It's for you.

[Mark]

I'm okay.

[Ish]

You ain't got. Christmas is coming, all right? See, I'm telling you now.

[Mark]

If you let.

[Ish]

If you let Christmas come sometimes. I'm feeling good. I'mma go get a coat.

[Mark]

No, thank you.

[Ish]

And it ain't going to be like a PhD Dr. Cuz code. It's gonna be some drug dealer, three quarter leaf, some other. Yeah, you.

[Mark]

I have coats.

[Parks]

Take a picture of it, Senator. Take a picture.

[Freeze]

No, just wear one.

[Mark]

Let me wear one.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Parks]

No, that's an excuse. You gonna rent some. Take a picture.

[Mark]

And where do you rent coats from?

[Parks]

I don't know, you know.

[Ish]

Wait.

[Parks]

Take a picture and send it in.

[Ian]

You said red coats.

[Mark]

He said rent a coat.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's what mark me doing.

[Mark]

I know you.

[Flip]

Shoot, I know you a couple M's up. You supposed to have more than.

[Ish]

You supposed to have more than.

[Parks]

How many coats you got?

[Mark]

I'm a man of the people. We did this on the. On the main pod.

[Ish]

We're together, we're not together.

[Joe Budden]

Marked by jackets. You can't. You can't just mace.

[Ish]

Proof coat jacket that traumatized.

[Parks]

I thought we saw the jacket though. What happened to that red shit he had?

[Ian]

He retired.

[Joe Budden]

That was bad.

[Mark]

They don't like the size of my jackets. You.

[Ish]

No, that's. It's more than that.

[Mark]

I've wore a million jackets in here.

[Ian]

No, you haven't.

[Mark]

Not this year. Last year I did. The reason I started was because he.

[Ish]

Told me I don't ever wear coats.

[Mark]

I wore coats for like a month.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, Mark, I'm telling you, you haven't left your mark where you think you have.

[Mark]

I'm just saying. I wore coats in here.

[Joe Budden]

We're telling you we didn't notice yet.

[Ish]

They weren't memorable.

[Flip]

They weren't coats.

[Mark]

They're not supposed to be.

[Ish]

In New York.

[Joe Budden]

They are.

[Ish]

Playing park parks. Only wear two to three coats.

[Joe Budden]

You remember.

[Mark]

I respect that you remember them.

[Joe Budden]

That's a fact.

[Ish]

You know when he actually 4. You know when he hit you with that black white boy biker leather, the peak, the peacoat.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, something happened. Can y' all hear me?

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

The Pico, the Sherlings. You remember him in New York?

[Flip]

He got two.

[Mark]

Come on.

[Ish]

You've seen sexiness.

[Ian]

I do have too.

[Joe Budden]

Come on.

[Parks]

Yeah, I know. We still wear some boys.

[Mark]

Cheryl, right?

[Parks]

He wore some shit. Tried to wear some long one time.

[Ish]

Huh? He did wear it.

[Joe Budden]

It should do it. The shoulders would be from the 90s, but.

[Ish]

I know My boy got coats. I don't play with him these no more.

[Parks]

So I just watch him in the closet and reminisce. Put your coats on.

[Ian]

20, 30 minimum.

[Joe Budden]

I made a mistake and burged off and got walked around on the second floor instead of the third.

[Ish]

Man, that nigga brought out this coat.

[Joe Budden]

Oh my God. To the ankles.

[Ish]

Black leather and suede striped down.

[Joe Budden]

Like I said. Why you even bring this? How much is this?

[Ish]

And where am I wearing?

[Freeze]

No damn.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

30.

[Joe Budden]

Close.

[Flip]

Close to 15 or close to no.

[Freeze]

Close to 30.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, close to 15. It's 20.

[Ian]

Oh deesh, that's close to 32. It is.

[Ish]

There's not even nowhere that I I go get.

[Parks]

Get that white mink. You got a white mink too. Go get it.

[Ian]

20 on the jack is excessive.

[Mark]

That's a cult.

[Ish]

It ain't excessive. What the is you talking about?

[Freeze]

It ain't.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, there's a piece and I didn't get it.

[Parks]

You say and then you end up get it. You act like y.

[Ian]

It's self control.

[Freeze]

It ain't. No.

[Parks]

He got it for you.

[Joe Budden]

Think he got.

[Freeze]

Not that one.

[Mark]

He just got a different one.

[Freeze]

Remember the Bottega one he had? He said how much that costs?

[Ian]

That's true.

[Ish]

Whatever I said then that's my limit.

[Joe Budden]

That's my limit.

[Ish]

And then it was a thousand dollars less. Wait, the green.

[Freeze]

The green you said was 14.

[Ish]

That ain't 20.

[Ian]

It's not fun.

[Parks]

Are you crazy?

[Ish]

For a bottle? All right, we're not focusing on me. We're not.

[Mark]

You too rich for 14 to 20 different.

[Ian]

Fourteen hundred bobbers.

[Freeze]

A thousand dollars. It's $1,000.

[Ish]

Nice jacket.

[Parks]

Bag.

[Joe Budden]

Mark, I told you when we're not.

[Ish]

Going back to wastefulness.

[Joe Budden]

But it's not just about if you have it or if you need it. It's about will you use it.

[Parks]

I got you how many times?

[Mark]

And that's why I don't buy coat.

[Joe Budden]

That coat.

[Ish]

I'mma take one picture. I'mma look bad in the picture.

[Joe Budden]

Coming out the nick game trying to be somebody cuz I never look good coming out the n. It's just going to be a man I don't see.

[Mark]

And that's why I don't wear them.

[Ish]

But all the people that love me.

[Joe Budden]

In my life have started giving me their Christmas gifts to me.

[Ish]

So many sheets. That's not bad.

[Ian]

That's so many.

[Ish]

As a grown man, I appreciate the boring galore.

[Ian]

I appreciate the boring.

[Mark]

Quality though.

[Ish]

Turn it up.

[Mark]

Did they give you the right three account and all that?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

They gave you sheets or that they asked for sheets?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I'm getting the sheets. I think I got sheets.

[Parks]

Sheets?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I got sheets. Let me get these drops out the way. What'd you say?

[Flip]

I can't afford that sheets neither.

[Ian]

You got expensive sheets.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he won't afford.

[Ish]

You won't afford.

[Ian]

Yeah, 5k on the sheet. This part.

[Joe Budden]

Buy me a gift.

[Parks]

Buy me a gift on Christmas.

[Ish]

Are we doing that again? Pretending that we're gonna buy each other gifts and then.

[Parks]

No, no, you just.

[Mark]

You just came.

[Parks]

You just came and stunted and bought everybody a gift.

[Mark]

You a gift.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

Did that.

[Mark]

You did.

[Parks]

Oh, we had a good year.

[Ish]

Hold on. Here, take this.

[Parks]

We know that trick boy. I mean, say, ladies, we ain't that. He came in, cuz was looking like, you know, it's Christmas time, man.

[Ish]

Came in with mad bags of gifts.

[Ian]

It was nice.

[Mark]

Very nice.

[Freeze]

I still use mine. Talking about word.

[Mark]

I still enjoy that episode. Watching y' all go again.

[Parks]

It was amazing. Let me but that put some money in our pocket more.

[Joe Budden]

And feel free during Christmas to get in the holiday spirit.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah. I got something for you, gang.

[Joe Budden]

Like, we see each other enough.

[Flip]

So you said you ain't want none of our gifts? Yeah, we said you didn't want our gifts last year.

[Parks]

He said our gifts got to be at a certain limit.

[Mark]

He said, I don't want your poor people gifts.

[Ish]

I remember when the mics.

[Parks]

When the mics was all that. Said, you know why I don't accept gifts? Cause I think y' all gifts gonna be that I'm not gonna use. Now you look at your mans in the face and tell them that's this. I think it's gonna be some. And I don't want to offend y'. All. It won't bother if it's not something sentimental. Then we asked what's sentimental? Then he brought up, you know, Park's got me to no. And.

[Flip]

And he put a price on it.

[Freeze]

He put a price on it, too.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all can get a nice.

[Ian]

We could all chip it and get him the jacket for real.

[Freeze]

What jacket?

[Mark]

Jacket. I'll pick the jacket.

[Ish]

I will cry on air.

[Freeze]

I'm a cry, too.

[Joe Budden]

I will cry on air if y' all did. Oh, my God.

[Parks]

Who's responsible for buying parks?

[Joe Budden]

Parks love me. These is finicky.

[Parks]

We send you the bread.

[Flip]

Old Navy got the sale.

[Ish]

Don't do it.

[Mark]

N. I was gonna say target. I was gonna say H and M. We there.

[Joe Budden]

Old nav I'm gonna get the whole Navy to come belt ass.

[Ian]

We can buy him an Old Navy and Old Navy the store if y'.

[Ish]

All bust that down.

[Joe Budden]

You know what.

[Ish]

What episode is this? 887 the judge. The coat.

[Freeze]

What coat?

[Ish]

The coat.

[Ian]

The $20,000 coat.

[Parks]

That's not playing.

[Flip]

What episode is this?

[Ian]

887. And it is brought to you.

[Ish]

I ain't going, Louie. And start asking them niggas for the price of nothing. When I bought the coat for you, I told them who you beat and how you carry it. I said, yo, nah. This for Freeze. They said, nah, you could come over here with. I said, nah, that's for Freeze.

[Parks]

Go to the kip section.

[Ish]

I'm going.

[Flip]

Y mean, you talking about Freez?

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's a. That's a special collector. I said I'm going for Freeze.

[Parks]

Freeze.

[Freeze]

And I appreciate that.

[Parks]

Not that $20,000 joint.

[Ish]

What episode is this?

[Ian]

887.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not begging y' all to do. It's fine. Give me some sheets.

[Ian]

887.

[Ish]

Welcome to episode 887 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fuel by Powered by Prize Pigs. Prize pigs, gang, I'm your humble and.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, not right now. No, I ain't.

[Ish]

I'm just happy. Not even a little bit.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

I'm just happy to be here.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Ish]

How can I be all you niggas?

[Joe Budden]

This is a.

[Ish]

It's a fucking mess out there. Oh. I've been in my house as unhumble as could possibly be. And I don't think people ever say it. People never say it.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ish]

Not my humblest day. That's just how niggas be carrying it. But if I'm just speaking the truth, outside of whatever, my little helps you. I've been home unhumble, letting your nuts hang. Wendy the pulled out you get. Oh, you let your shit. I'm so glad you said that. I'm so glad you said that. This how unhumble I be.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, here we go.

[Ish]

This is how unhumble I was. I couldn't even tell this to nobody. I'm glad my man said that. One of them days in the crib while I was unhumble broke out the Winnie the Pooh sport edition. Threw on some kicks. Nah, I thought you caught a crop top. Nah, nah, I hit him with a little something on the top. Winnie on the bottom. Threw on some kicks, walked around. Yeah, I'm on my Winnie. Sports shit, nigga, as unhumble as you could carry right now. Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

It's disgusting.

[Ian]

But you need subtraction. I. I get it.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Counting my man out.

[Flip]

That's funny.

[Mark]

So.

[Ish]

Oh, man.

[Joe Budden]

No good. Listen.

[Ish]

And hey, and as long as you kept it inside and I got a few more months to be like the.

[Flip]

Definitely.

[Ish]

I'm just having fun.

[Parks]

Definitely.

[Ish]

You're absolutely right about that.

[Ian]

It's been a good year.

[Ish]

Let's keep it right there.

[Ian]

Like two more weeks, man.

[Parks]

Let's not get shaken. You know what?

[Ish]

And I got to commend you. He's right about that.

[Mark]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Well.

[Ish]

And even though last year was me, I did it. But I gotta commend us.

[Joe Budden]

He's right.

[Ish]

Two more weeks and we will have completed what I deem to be as classic as a year as you could possibly have. And I can't do that, deliver that.

[Joe Budden]

Or be the dynamic self I am here, at least without you guys.

[Ish]

So don't.

[Joe Budden]

Don't.

[Ish]

I was gonna say that was.

[Ian]

I was gonna say that wasn't the most humblest, but then you. You humbled it.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

Let me finish.

[Ish]

Oh, don't. None of y' all it up. I know that was. That was on me last year. That was on me. That was my bad. Yeah, that was on me. Actually, it wasn't. Actually, it wasn't.

[Parks]

Oh, man.

[Ish]

Y'.

[Mark]

All.

[Ish]

We almost there.

[Joe Budden]

There.

[Parks]

We almost there.

[Mark]

Is.

[Ish]

We almost there.

[Freeze]

Stay the course.

[Ish]

Yes, please.

[Parks]

You almost 50. Og you say ish for stay. You sleep with boxes on and socks, right?

[Flip]

Tank top.

[Ian]

Stupid tank top in the bed.

[Parks]

Yeah, he shave on his body.

[Joe Budden]

No, he.

[Mark]

I don't want to see me like this.

[Ish]

What's the house catch on fire and I got to run out?

[Parks]

I don't want to see his name like that. I don't want to see me like this.

[Ish]

Your voice don't want to see me.

[Parks]

You put your shirt in your boxes too, don't you?

[Ish]

He playing with you.

[Ian]

Yeah, he disrespecting you.

[Parks]

I love it.

[Ish]

This guy is crazy. You don't move around when you sleep.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Oh, for real? Are you a bad sleeper?

[Joe Budden]

Ish.

[Flip]

Nah, not really. You'll toss and turn a little bit.

[Ish]

So you never instantly ready to show.

[Joe Budden]

Your lady who the boss is.

[Ish]

Like, you need a second on the wake up.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm just saying.

[Ish]

Cause in the middle, if you got clothes on.

[Joe Budden]

What I'm saying.

[Parks]

Oh, I got you.

[Joe Budden]

You got your tank top. You got your box.

[Parks]

Oh, he trying to say, do you.

[Ish]

You never. You never just turn Up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, yeah. Oh, hold on. You want to get. You're in the mood, aren't you? Damn.

[Parks]

Take it off for me.

[Ish]

Oh, wait.

[Freeze]

She using a.

[Ish]

That'll work. That is hilarious. Oh, my God. Yo, that is funny.

[Flip]

She used her foot. That's when you know a is a sniper.

[Parks]

Yeah, she use her foot.

[Ish]

She use her foot.

[Joe Budden]

Ish. Yo, get naked in the bed. Pause. Go. You're missing out on good sleep.

[Parks]

887.

[Freeze]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Prize picks. We did.

[Ian]

Everyone's here.

[Ish]

This is flip.

[Parks]

Flip it up.

[Joe Budden]

What up? I love y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

It's Tuesday.

[Ish]

This is flip. I'm on flip side. And whatever little Tuesday verse, Friday jokes these got. I'm not with all the division. I'm not with up the morale of some at all. I'm on flip side and all of that. That Mark is going to try to do. Facts.

[Parks]

You know him.

[Ish]

There ain't gonna be nobody but Mark don't care about the morale. He don't care.

[Parks]

He is morale.

[Ish]

Who feel good.

[Ian]

That's true.

[Parks]

I do care.

[Mark]

And in fact, to push the morale up, let me just say. Let me echo you the fourth quarter jvp. Everybody up here been making great moves. I'm excited and proud to be part of the team. I saw your pre interview with Premium.

[Ian]

You smoke that.

[Parks]

Shout out to you, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to those brothers. Album out now. But thank you, guys. That. That. It was. It was well received.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Well received.

[Ish]

That was one of your better interviews.

[Ian]

You asked questions that I would have asked in music nerd world.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

I knew I did good. When somebody in the comment said Chad.

[Ish]

GBT gave them questions.

[Mark]

That.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Freeze]

When somebody put it on chat. That's a compliment.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. But other than that was the only comment I saw. Like that Everybody said the question. They killed me for jeans and Tim's.

[Ish]

That.

[Ian]

That's funny. That was funny.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Y' all killed me too. Yeah, but. But it was great. It was a complete honor. I'm glad that the fans enjoyed it. Honored to be a part of it. It was great. And thank you, guys.

[Ian]

And now that the smoke is cleared, I like that now. Supreme album.

[Mark]

Yo, I just do it this morning. I do, too.

[Ian]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Mark]

I do too. I'm sorry. Internet. Yeah. I was a little scared because of all the reception. Not only did, like a shallow listen, but I listened to it all the way through again this morning. I. I liked it a lot, actually.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Nas is rapping his ass off.

[Joe Budden]

He is.

[Mark]

And the criticisms of the beats. I just don't get. I, I, I enjoy that.

[Ian]

Yeah, Beats are, Beats are doing exactly what they need to do to let Nas do what he needed to do.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, listen, I saw, I saw Nas perform during the Thunder spurs game. Really dope performance. Amazon played it for hours, hours and hours and hours, even after the game ended. And he did two, the two new songs he did welcome to Underground and Get Ready San, sounded great live. It wasn't an album that, when I heard it, prior to it coming out, I thought that the fans would just immediately get and be like, oh, this is crazy. It ain't.

[Ish]

It ain't that. Yeah, like fire.

[Mark]

That, the production level, that's one of the things where I thought they really hit. They stride together. That shit was fire.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No shout out, shout outs to those guys. I'm glad that y' all enjoyed the interview. Smoking on the fourth quarter pack.

[Mark]

And it's funny because when it came out, I guess came out 9A, the fans lost their minds. The JVP fans, everybody calm down. Like, you released the show like three hours later, right? Yeah, people, I mean, people were making think pieces about why, oh, the Patreon didn't drop, why the Patreon didn't drop. Think pieces, complaints. They were about to start a petition. I'm like, just relax. It's gonna be a couple hours. That's all you're just creating space for. Right.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm appreciative of that too.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

There's a part of the fan base that does that. There's a large part of the fan base that knows what time it is and understands. And you don't really have to communicate everything too. But it's dope. It's dope.

[Mark]

Super dope.

[Ish]

The year couldn't have been what it is without.

[Joe Budden]

Without the chatter from the community, without the good shit, the bad shit, the.

[Ish]

Clippers, the think pieces, the fake narratives.

[Joe Budden]

The ones you get.

[Ish]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Like at the end of the year, it's like album release day for me. Album release day is the day to.

[Ish]

Wow, it's out, it's yours. This is what it took to get.

[Joe Budden]

Here and the creation of it. That's what December is for me. Thank God a lot of people didn't make it this year.

[Ish]

People died.

[Joe Budden]

People are still having fucking health issues and private battles and family conflict and just internal shit, depression. The Rob Reiner story we'll get to.

[Ish]

Shortly, but nothing to not be grateful for.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna hold you hostage here with my spiel, but.

[Mark]

Well, I Turned to revolt.

[Ish]

Oh, park smoked that. Shout out to all of them. That was great.

[Flip]

Great panel.

[Ish]

That was a great panel. Go revolt.

[Ian]

Yeah, man, that was a lot of fun. And there's gonna be two more episodes, I believe.

[Ish]

So tell them again what it is.

[Ian]

It was a year end wrap up. It was me, Rob Markman, head LC and Eevee and we sat down and talked about what we liked and loved about about last year.

[Flip]

I loved it.

[Freeze]

Shout out to you.

[Mark]

It was amazing, Parks. I mean between the Levi's ad and this, are you moving in a new direction professionally? Are you trying to be more like public facing?

[Ian]

I don't know. When it's the right thing.

[Ish]

I am.

[Flip]

You want Top Gun three.

[Freeze]

Outside shooting the field?

[Ian]

When it's the right thing, I'll do it. That's all it comes down to. I don't want to run around and do a million podcasts and shit, but if it's a great situation with people I respect, then I'm going to do it without a question.

[Mark]

That's up. And flip. I also saw you in Chinatown.

[Parks]

Come on, man.

[Mark]

No, it was a great, it was an excellent interview he did with Chinese gangsters. Yeah, I learned a bunch.

[Parks]

I've been, yeah, shout out to Chinatown. Shout out to people over there. You know, same thing. Just doing what flip do. Going outside and just being adventurous. Yeah, that's what I appreciate it.

[Flip]

Yo, what sparked up like, seriously, I ain't trying to be funny cause you know that they like a closed off community. So for them to welcome you in and be talking to you and, and letting you interview, I mean, I wasn't really bothered.

[Joe Budden]

Non threatening.

[Parks]

I mean black though. Another non threatening nigga.

[Joe Budden]

I'm talking to you. Go ahead.

[Parks]

Even though, listen, it wasn't easy to get in there. It's still not easy. They're still very close knitted but I was able to communicate with some right people up there. China gang war stories. And they just showed me a lot of love.

[Mark]

They look like they trusted you and the bull was taking you down a little pathway. Talking about the extortion and all that.

[Ian]

I like flipping his journalism bag.

[Parks]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, you can't be aggressive. They kick my ass. Anyway. Oh, yo, me and J.R. real quick. Me and J.R. was there recording yesterday with, with the kung fu master tech and you know. No, that's a great. J.R. looked at me and said, yo, they over there. Just randomly just start practicing, pops. We may get up in here. He ain't cursed. I said, I said, let Me be a little nicer. Maybe not crack my jokes, but shout out to them, man. They show a lot of. I appreciate that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let's shout them out. Because I'm horrible at lost and found. Like, I worry about that. Like when they take one of y' all and hide y' all somewhere and they call the friends.

[Parks]

You ain't gonna pick up?

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm gonna pick up.

[Parks]

But are you gonna pay the ransom?

[Ish]

I'm animal help.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, you're done. You're done. And they hid you, but we looking for you. They calling the friends to see. Hey, were you last with them? What spaces are you familiar with?

[Ish]

I would be.

[Joe Budden]

I would. Where would I begin?

[Parks]

If they call you, we got queen.

[Joe Budden]

I would never say Chinatown.

[Ish]

Let's look there.

[Mark]

If they have me.

[Parks]

If the Chinese call you and they have me, are you gonna pay my ransom?

[Ish]

No, you gotta do it.

[Parks]

I'll do it for you.

[Joe Budden]

You know I'm not.

[Ish]

You got it.

[Joe Budden]

Don't.

[Parks]

You gonna pay the ransom for me?

[Ish]

How high is the ransom?

[Mark]

What's the number? I was gonna say 50,000.

[Parks]

50.

[Mark]

They want 50, you might lose.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, 50.

[Flip]

You might lose a nub or something. I ain't got 50, right?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Try to talk them down a little.

[Ish]

Bit, they gotta send me. They even make a deal.

[Flip]

Really worth 50, my.

[Ish]

I'mma keep it a buck.

[Flip]

I got 27 and a half for you.

[Ish]

Is it a hard 50?

[Joe Budden]

Like non negotiable?

[Ian]

Yeah, that's a good question. Can we do installment place?

[Parks]

How many. How many kidnappers actually take the lower end? I heard a lot of them be non negotiable, actually, because I. I don't want to.

[Joe Budden]

I want to be honest with you. I would pay it, but I. Under one condition. I had to have a question first. Like, after the kidnapping, did you change my clothes?

[Ian]

No.

[Joe Budden]

No personality.

[Ian]

Did you learn anything?

[Parks]

I'mma come here like Tupac.

[Ish]

No. That's a shame. Yo, yo, that is such a shame.

[Parks]

I survived the kidnap. Hey, with them, Yes. I changed, man. I'll be scared.

[Joe Budden]

All right, if you change, then, yeah.

[Parks]

So you go pay the fee. How long does it take you? Because you can't take three days.

[Joe Budden]

Joe, what day did they call.

[Ish]

You? Friday.

[Freeze]

Cash app looking for the week.

[Ish]

That's what I'm saying. I just. I just. My limit got right again just the other day.

[Flip]

So we can't get to the bank, man. You know, I gotta wait till.

[Freeze]

You know what I mean?

[Ish]

And it's a holiday weekend.

[Freeze]

You might have to hold on yeah, you might.

[Joe Budden]

Where.

[Ish]

Where do you gentlemen want to begin today?

[Mark]

Well, just real quick. I mean, because I don't want to be. We shouted everybody. Everybody who's doing a thing. Ice, you also did a thing.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, don't do that. Don't do that. You started with Parks or me. Park. We going in order like, ish. I seen you too. You doing.

[Parks]

The corner set.

[Mark]

I don't even know what it's going.

[Parks]

Seeing you with assorted colors, boy.

[Joe Budden]

I've seen you two on my phone, bro. You doing your thing.

[Parks]

What he did.

[Ish]

Hurry up.

[Parks]

Tell us what this did again, yo.

[Ish]

And I' ma find it always.

[Parks]

What happened? Show me.

[Ish]

I said what you did there.

[Joe Budden]

You know, I see my man name in bold.

[Parks]

What you did.

[Flip]

I have no idea what this talking about.

[Parks]

Oh, pull up.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. No, no, you put some. Putting some heat out there.

[Mark]

You doing.

[Parks]

What he doing now?

[Ian]

It's the algorithm in there. Yeah, that's all it says.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Fixing up, chefing it up in that algorithm. That's my boy, man. What you doing?

[Ish]

Yeah, he's been doing some playing in.

[Joe Budden]

The fourth quarter, man.

[Ish]

You know that.

[Mark]

I saw you get involved in action a little bit with this battle scene this weekend.

[Ian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Vixen O. Yeah.

[Freeze]

When I went out and hosted Happy.

[Mark]

Birthday to your brother.

[Freeze]

Yeah, Happy birthday, bro.

[Ian]

Happy birthday.

[Freeze]

Went out and hosted the battle between arson, Vixen and. I knew it. I knew she was gonna do something. Like, I had a feeling.

[Ian]

Oh, she barred you up?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Finished him.

[Ian]

Damn. Like that.

[Mark]

Nah, I wouldn't have come to work today. Why? I mean, it was pretty bad.

[Joe Budden]

Ended him.

[Ian]

Damn.

[Ish]

Ended.

[Joe Budden]

Ended right in his face.

[Ian]

Wow.

[Freeze]

Nah, I knew. Cause when I walked in, when I'm setting up whatever in my spot and she goes, nah, I need him to stand right here.

[Ian]

What you set up your eye contact, pet.

[Ish]

Where they had me at my guy. I understand what you.

[Flip]

Elimination.

[Freeze]

They setting up the battle. Yo, we need to.

[Ish]

Here, get your watches.

[Ian]

Watch on the little. Stand the phone in the side face.

[Parks]

Let me talk to you real quick.

[Ish]

Apple TV hooked up.

[Parks]

So it was. It was good, though.

[Freeze]

But yeah. Nah, when she was like, nah, I need him to stand here. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay. I know. I know where this is about to go. But now she came out, she. She threw a couple bars at me.

[Ian]

Little Iverson bar. What she gave you.

[Parks]

Did she beat your brother?

[Freeze]

No, she got the first round, he got the second round, and I gave him the third. A lot of people in the building gave him the third. Her people gave her the third, but it was a good battle.

[Joe Budden]

Good.

[Freeze]

Really good battle.

[Parks]

Shout to it.

[Joe Budden]

I can't wait to see it. Where can I see it? I mean, when it to.

[Ish]

Comes.

[Joe Budden]

Comes out.

[Freeze]

It comes out on the 17th, I believe they said.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

Birthday.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Another thing, these birthdays.

[Parks]

My son about to be 21 tomorrow.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. My son's eight.

[Ian]

Y' all got all your Christmas shopping done yet?

[Parks]

No.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish]

No, we're doing tears.

[Parks]

My wife is at that stage where she don't want to tell me what she wants. You just want me to be going to my observant. Observant bag of all the years I've been married.

[Ian]

So any age is a woman.

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Parks]

I tell you what I want. This is what I want.

[Flip]

I'm not.

[Freeze]

I don't want.

[Ian]

You make a Christmas list, too.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

How long is the list?

[Parks]

How many years short? I'm the breadwinner. No, I'm not playing.

[Joe Budden]

I'll take that back.

[Parks]

Write that down. I didn't mean to say that. She'll curse me out, but I'm saying. What I'm saying is that I asked her what she wanted. She's not answering me. It's like, oh, give me anything. I'm like, I'm not. No. I'm not doing none of that. I even sent my kids to go ask her, but it's not working.

[Joe Budden]

Christmas. Y' all know what y' all getting? Y' all partners for Christmas?

[Parks]

Yeah, now I do.

[Ian]

I've been working on it.

[Flip]

Mm.

[Parks]

As you know, you got yours already. You gotta order your shit from the wheel. Like. Like France.

[Ish]

She want a scarf from France. This nigga, right?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He always had to say extra.

[Ish]

I ain't even say that.

[Joe Budden]

Stupid.

[Parks]

For real is Mark. You know. You know what your wife was.

[Mark]

I don't celebrate Christmas.

[Freeze]

I got to get like that.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Parks]

So you're not even doing it for baby Malcolm. You're not doing it. You're starting it from there.

[Mark]

My wife will probably do some stuff for him. She celebrates it.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. Oh, just not.

[Freeze]

Hold on.

[Parks]

When he open the gift, you going to be in the corner just looking.

[Mark]

That's what I did with my kids growing up.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you got. You got one of them park scams going on.

[Ish]

Hold up.

[Freeze]

How you.

[Flip]

Wait, wait.

[Freeze]

So your wife celebrates it?

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

Is there a tree in your house, Marcus?

[Flip]

Muslim.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Don't tell her.

[Parks]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Mark]

So, yeah, so you know, she does.

[Ish]

Well, you don't shoot at the tree like, you let it Sit there holistically banging on yourself.

[Freeze]

Right there in your spot.

[Mark]

I had to carry the in.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Ish]

Oh, you got pork on you now.

[Flip]

That was me up.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the hardest part.

[Flip]

That stabbing the out you.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's heavy. And you cut yours down, right? You chopped it down. Yeah. That's crazy.

[Parks]

You did that again.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

I got that from you, though.

[Ian]

Did you wear a Christmas hat? A Santa hat?

[Flip]

Nah, it was cold as hell.

[Mark]

Did you actually chop or did you bring one of your guys?

[Freeze]

Mr. East, Mr. E.

[Mark]

I got the hatch.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Real quick.

[Mark]

Real quick.

[Parks]

Mark, though. So I got the hatchet. Got the hatch. Even though you don't celebrate Christmas, right?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, boy.

[Parks]

Do you. You don't buy gifts neither?

[Mark]

No, because that'd be like celebrating it.

[Flip]

Celebrating.

[Ian]

Do you accept gifts?

[Mark]

No.

[Parks]

Do you contribute to the gift?

[Mark]

I always tell people, don't get me. Do you contribute? I do something Kwanzaa, you know what I mean? Afterward. And I try to keep. And I try to keep that very different. So, like, very simple things. Like, I got y' all books for Kwanzaa. Like, I wouldn't buy y', all, like, leather coats because that would be like, basically celebrating Christmas the next day. Oh, you know, try to keep the spirit of being.

[Ian]

I didn't know there was.

[Mark]

Like, this is my personal choice.

[Ish]

Books are a good gift.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I love.

[Mark]

I love it. I like to give thoughtful small gifts for quant.

[Freeze]

A great gift.

[Mark]

Yeah. Thank you. So I going get more books this year. You're going to add it to the list of y' all a read.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

We good, gang.

[Ish]

We good.

[Flip]

Pray for me.

[Parks]

Pray, Pray for me, Pray for me. And that's enough.

[Joe Budden]

Lucky for you love books more than that. Coach you're talking about.

[Ian]

We'll get you a bunch of books.

[Freeze]

Oh, no. We got you then.

[Ish]

We got you.

[Mark]

I'm gonna get you.

[Parks]

So if we. If somebody gets you stuff, you gonna throw it away cuz you'll celebrate it?

[Mark]

No, I mean, I just. I. People. People who care about me enough to buy gifts know that I don't celebrate Christmas.

[Freeze]

But we. What if we don't care, though? I'm not even trying to be funny.

[Mark]

Like, what if. If you just don't care? I would take it.

[Joe Budden]

I would take it. Good.

[Mark]

I wouldn't.

[Flip]

All right.

[Mark]

I don't think there's going to be a problem up here, but, like, I. I'll be fine.

[Freeze]

It's eight.

[Mark]

It's eight. Give me get. Before you thought I celebrated it. It's Eight people.

[Joe Budden]

My math is slow and moan is nine, right?

[Flip]

Imani's ten.

[Ian]

I don't know.

[Flip]

Every time I go to. Forget Imani, stop.

[Ish]

Yo, you got a problem?

[Mark]

You going to stop disrespecting my man.

[Parks]

For real, yo, for real.

[Ish]

Enough doing that.

[Parks]

Enough.

[Ian]

So question.

[Ish]

When you go to burgos?

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

10.

[Ian]

10?

[Ish]

When you got employee here.

[Joe Budden]

I am slow.

[Ish]

You're so I'm just wondering to 20.

[Joe Budden]

How many times?

[Flip]

Two.

[Ian]

Add tax.

[Joe Budden]

And Nick, you.

[Flip]

I got y'.

[Ish]

All.

[Parks]

It's about 2k each.

[Ian]

Yeah, I've never been to Burgdorf where like, can you do it like the. At the restaurant where everyone yo, take.

[Ish]

Two off this car.

[Freeze]

Not two off this one. I'm after paying my two.

[Parks]

I'll get you a gift, but it's not gonna be that expensive.

[Ish]

Keno.

[Parks]

Yeah, got together, put that chip in for your game, you know, let's call.

[Mark]

Keno feeds us every week. He shouldn't have to get a get paid.

[Parks]

Yo, chill out. I'm not here. Yo, don't talk about.

[Mark]

Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. They told me not to mention it. I apologize.

[Joe Budden]

Where do you amazing gentlemen want to start? Media, 90 minutes in. Yeah, come on. I'm cool with it. I like when. I like when the ball go like that.

[Mark]

Me too.

[Ian]

Yeah, me too.

[Mark]

I mean.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, hold up now. I said I'm off that, but you're getting a little hive too. You're getting. I see it. I see the chirping. I see the chirping. Flip. Oh, I ain't gonna hold you a lot of 2/3.

[Mark]

Don't be divisive.

[Joe Budden]

I know, but I had to get my man some. I see what they're doing out there for my man. They standing up for my boy.

[Mark]

How much does it cost to get a bot farm?

[Ish]

Oh, unrelated question.

[Mark]

Just curious.

[Parks]

You should know, Chance.

[Freeze]

You should know.

[Parks]

You should know.

[Ish]

You think Mark ever bought bots? I would ask it about flip, but I.

[Joe Budden]

But I know flipboard box before.

[Mark]

When?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know when, but I believe that sometime in your 10 year.

[Parks]

In the beginning, like before, nigga, like.

[Ish]

You know more about the bots then.

[Parks]

Yeah, but not now, cuz. YouTube.

[Ish]

I'm not talking about now. I ain't trying to play with your.

[Parks]

YouTube did a big cleanse four times in the past 10 years.

[Flip]

You just got wiped out.

[Parks]

Nah, n my shit still like, he ain't him. My shit still.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you think mar buying bots like now?

[Parks]

I don't know what this doing, man. I just know that he just tearing up to work.

[Mark]

To work, man. That's it. I. I just come to work every day. I ain't on my every day.

[Parks]

I ain't on him.

[Mark]

Tuesday, Friday, you.

[Parks]

Me, you got to do. I mean, double the work. You. I mean, double the work.

[Mark]

Yo, you really got him with that. Can you write that down?

[Ish]

Y' all leave me out of y first digs at each other.

[Parks]

A bunch. A bunch I got you. That don't work anymore. I pull up with my man to find out, you know what I'm saying? And some respecting those little tactics.

[Ian]

Oh, so you st them it don't work.

[Parks]

No, no. I speak to my man. Hey, yo, is this any validity? Put some pressure in the sand.

[Joe Budden]

I just realized there is no way for me to stay out of anything up here.

[Mark]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I'm going be in it, even if I'm just sitting here.

[Mark]

But you. You started this whole exchange with Flip. Got a hive. That's how this whole started Flip.

[Joe Budden]

I. I mean, Flip Mark. I talk to people up here in a protective manner for the most part.

[Ish]

You like I'm aware of what.

[Joe Budden]

What could be unpleasant to hear. What is bothersome. He is.

[Mark]

So am I.

[Freeze]

And that's what he leans into.

[Ish]

He uses it for evil and then want to talk to. I give out books and Uncle Bobby book door and I'm activist. You're evil. And only up here. Only up here.

[Parks]

Go up there.

[Ish]

Go up there and be evil, too.

[Mark]

I'm not allowed up there.

[Ish]

So much joy I had.

[Joe Budden]

Well, well, not joy. I learned a valuable lesson trying to run ads on news channels.

[Ian]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And went to my dad's house. The game was on. I got a little text that the commercial was going to run on CNN in a second. I said, oh, the commercial's about to run. Dad loves cnn.

[Ish]

He's like, oh, I'll turn from the game. I'm like, no, you don't have to.

[Joe Budden]

I promise you.

[Freeze]

Now he's like, no, I want to see the commercial.

[Joe Budden]

Commercial. Go to cnn. Breaking news. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ian]

Bad day.

[Ish]

Bad, bad, bad day.

[Joe Budden]

Breaking news.

[Ian]

Bad news.

[Joe Budden]

Weekend shooter on the loose. One gone. Rest in peace.

[Freeze]

Rest in peace.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Nine injured. Like we could. Yeah, we could turn. Yeah.

[Ian]

Rest in peace. To the people at Brown and Australia. There was a shooting as well. We'll get to the Rob Rainier stuff later. Let's start with the media stuff, though.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do. Do it.

[Ian]

That's where we at.

[Mark]

Yeah, man. So on Friday, we talked a little bit about what was happening over at Hot 97 we talked about Ebro in the Morning show. Sort of, not sort of ending. We were speculating but we realized it has ended. They actually launched their new YouTube show, Ebro Rosenberg and Laura in the Morning.

[Ian]

Shout out to them.

[Mark]

Shout out to them. It's on YouTube. I watched the first episode. Have any of us get a chance to see it?

[Freeze]

No, I saw.

[Mark]

Did you get a chance to see.

[Parks]

See it, Joe?

[Flip]

Today was the first episode.

[Mark]

Yeah, I thought it was fire.

[Joe Budden]

When did it drop?

[Mark]

I watched it this morning cuz I was up so I didn't. Yeah, it was fire.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see it this morning.

[Mark]

Oh, it's. It's really good. It's really good. Laura was traveling so she couldn't do the whole thing, but it was good. It had the same energy. I noticed they renamed it which makes me feel like they're in a three way split maybe. So I don't know about the business part of it, but the fact that they decided to stay together and be together as partners.

[Joe Budden]

See, I just always question your decision making. There was that fork in the road, right? It was that you had it. You chance. Yeah, you had a chance to do it just now. But you're dignified.

[Mark]

I loved it, man.

[Joe Budden]

Did you love the graphic package?

[Mark]

What graphic package? Did you didn't see.

[Joe Budden]

I said I didn't see it this morning.

[Mark]

Oh.

[Ian]

Always leaves loophole.

[Mark]

He does, doesn't he? That was good.

[Joe Budden]

Did you like the graphic package? That and did you like the new name? We could tell true. My man. I'm invited him to my next birthday.

[Mark]

I love Ebro. That's my brother, man. I love Rosenberg.

[Joe Budden]

I took Rosenberg all the time.

[Ish]

Time.

[Mark]

And I, I think there's some work to be done on the graphics. There's some work to be done on the production side of it because they've been, you know, they've been doing mostly audio stuff so the video stuff needs to go a little bit. But I thought the combo was good.

[Joe Budden]

Well, yeah, but before you get to that, I ain't gonna let you keep steering us in the down the right path. Hey, before, before you get to that, I'm wondering how you feel about. Again, I said the same thing about Max be. How do you feel about people just taking a moment after, after, after a moment to have a moment.

[Mark]

I think it's different with them.

[Freeze]

Yeah, they. I don't think they can just take a moment.

[Joe Budden]

But tell me why.

[Freeze]

Because of what you came off. You need to kind of like hit the ground running type shit.

[Joe Budden]

Why? I think why explain it?

[Mark]

I think part of it is market share. I think if you're like look every people see or hear us every morning and we the next day we's gonna still be here in the morning for you. I think there's a way that to build their audience they wanna just keep moving. I get your point of taking men to give people a chance to miss you. I don't think that's wrong.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think build the anticipation.

[Mark]

But I think with them as a.

[Joe Budden]

Morning show, you saying give people a chance to miss you. My reason is way more detailed than.

[Flip]

Just your reason is logistics and doing it right.

[Ish]

Get it right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's more important to get it right than to do it fast.

[Flip]

I think a lot of that shit.

[Parks]

Cause you show.

[Ish]

Even though I support podcasts, my bad. I support people. People starting shows and learning in real.

[Joe Budden]

Time and fixing in real time. That's one of my favorite things about this thing and the audience being able to watch that.

[Ish]

But if you blessed with a golden.

[Joe Budden]

Window and perfect opportunity to just be.

[Ish]

Able to take your time, make the.

[Joe Budden]

Calls in the background, get your ducks in a row.

[Ish]

You patience to see how the new what new way do you want to present? Fix some of the old front facing things that people had a problem with. I didn't know so many people hated this crew. But a lot of people, they had.

[Joe Budden]

Negative things to say about Ebro. Pete, not so much Laura.

[Ish]

But you know they've been on since 09 and people know Ebro since 01. You've never taken a break. You went from on air to program.

[Joe Budden]

Director to behind the scenes to.

[Ish]

Then you had your own show. Then you got another show. You've always elevated. You got your apple shit.

[Joe Budden]

There's never been a time where Ebro could just chill.

[Ish]

I would take a month. I wouldn't have come back two days, three days. No, no, no, no.

[Freeze]

It might be another way to look like those was our fans there. They looking for our show. So now this could be a way of saying we're here. I'm trying to keep as much of them as possible for even to set up my next play. You should show that I got this in line.

[Ish]

I get what you're saying and I.

[Joe Budden]

Understand that and I'm not really criticizing. I'm just opening the floor for discussion. I'm on the other side of also.

[Ish]

What you do is you let the world happen when you take a break.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

But in letting the world happen, you could also people forget about you if you gone too Long freeze.

[Parks]

Yes, that's true. But also, if you show that you were part of a big program and you got fired, and then you come back and it looks like that you just adding on to the scrutiny that.

[Ish]

Comes with it, you might be robbing yourself of the bigger bang. Yo, go sit up. Eat some salad. Ebro got a beautiful family job. Go sit up. Go be family, man. Let's see who the new replacement is that might fire you up to be ready to go. Yo, like. Like, he immediately jumped in his car. That's what they're killing him for.

[Joe Budden]

When he jumped in his car.

[Ish]

You've never seen him that way. What people mean when they say, I never seen. I never saw you that way. We've never seen you so unsettled. That's what they saying. We've never seen you. We just know you as the boss. New York hip hop, your role is too great to go from that to now sitting in the car, smoking, talking about Netanyahu. That's what they mean. Silence. Silence. Silence. Actually, I got a clip. Y' all talk. I got a clip on silence.

[Flip]

I think that.

[Freeze]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Flip]

I think that from the outside looking in, we can have 20, 20. I think that it was an emotional thing for them. Like, yo, dawg, I've been here for 30 joints. I've been here for 20 something years. And I think it was just an emotional thing. And I think they reacted in the moment and responded in the moment. So you can't tell nobody how to respond emotionally to some shit that might have affected them. I think they was really affected. And from what Peter Rosenberg said, he said, yo, they was, like, completely blindsided. They didn't have any inkling that it was coming. So if you didn't have.

[Ish]

If he said it, it's Cap.

[Flip]

He said.

[Freeze]

That's what he said. He said he got a phone call for saying, yo, we got Legal on the phone.

[Flip]

He said, yo, they hit him and was like, yeah, pay Pete, y' all turn on. Legal's here. Yeah, today will be your last date.

[Freeze]

Pete, y' all are being terminated. You. You would.

[Flip]

He. He ain't say nothing about nobody else. He was just like, yo, today's your last day. We're terminating you. Like, real. Just. Kurt, cut to the point. And he said he had.

[Ish]

I don't believe that.

[Flip]

Okay. I mean, but if I'm going by what he's saying, because they started letting.

[Parks]

Other people go already, so you should know that they were letting people go.

[Freeze]

That don't mean they let that don't.

[Flip]

Mean you being that you are a staple here at the program and you have been for 20 something years and.

[Mark]

The ratings are strong. I can see how even with the writing on the wall, you missed it.

[Flip]

You not enough if you Ebro and.

[Joe Budden]

Peter Roosevelt, you ain't looking around, then.

[Flip]

You not looking at it like, yo.

[Mark]

That might be true.

[Flip]

And that could be true.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't looking around.

[Flip]

But again, pride and ego will have you not look around and think that it could happen to you. That's real life thing.

[Joe Budden]

I tell people all the time, especially in this content game, the people that act like they didn't know or oh, that's happening. I had no idea.

[Ish]

Hey, what's the look up.

[Joe Budden]

Look up. That's one of my favorite lines.

[Flip]

I'm not look up.

[Ish]

I'm agreeing with the second that they were purchased before anybody got let go.

[Parks]

2019.

[Ish]

The second that they were purchased.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, lights are flickering.

[Ish]

There's no telling what this new staff.

[Joe Budden]

Is coming in here to say. I learned that at Def Jam when I went from.

[Ish]

From Leora and Kevin and people that love me to people that don't. No telling what these new folks feel. You don't know what they objective, how much they spend it, how much they want you to get paid. Lights flickering, then cool.

[Joe Budden]

You missed that one.

[Ish]

T.T. torres. Oh, shit.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all got.

[Ish]

Okay, you missed that one. Another big one left. This is all before.

[Parks]

Not even that, Joe. They didn't renew the bill building lease when they got rid of the building. They that should have told you something. When they downsized and use a smaller spot that should have said.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, that's the other part. That's like me. Me on my complex rant saying, hey, they won't let me smoke in the bathroom. Yes. I'm not supposed to smoke in the bathroom. But it's a sign when they won't let you smoke. Yeah, in the bathroom. Y' all can't go record at the new spot. Ain't no new spot. Y' all ain't with the roaches and the rats and this the first time we hearing this? No, you missed some sign. And it's okay to say that there are company people out there. And I'm not now I'm just opening. I'm opening it up more. There are people out there that when you're on company time, you can get comfortable, you can get complacent. You could think you could go in that back room and people could be telling you everything that you fucking want to hear.

[Flip]

That's what I said.

[Mark]

I think y' all saying the same.

[Ish]

I'm not really against what you're saying.

[Flip]

No, what I'm saying is it's like the athlete. It's like the receiver. It's like, you were a star and you still think you are a star. And these owners are looking at you like, yo, my nigga, you went from averaging 30 to 19. We can go find 19 points a game at a way steeper pay cut than what you are now getting. You might not think that because you like, no, I put this franchise on my back and I built this shit. And they looking at you like, yeah, and we paid you. And that was yesteryear. So I think that. And again, y' all keep saying. Everybody keeps saying that their ratings was up. So if the ratings are up, you looking at it like, what reason? What they have to let us go if we are performing at a high level and we put this building on our backs.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's the thing. Ratings are important and numbers are important. I'm a wacko, and there are wackos out there. So sometimes you just change shit up. Cause creatively, it's not a go. Sometimes you have the foresight to see, hey, the landscape is changing or the future's changing. We seeing things to where we can't go off the numbers.

[Ish]

It's better for us to fix the it while these numbers are going good and get ahead of it versus rebuilding.

[Flip]

Want to hit the bottom versus, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Being so reactionary about it. And I understand both sides. I understand both sides of that for sure.

[Mark]

It's an organization feels like the numbers up because we. Us. So they feel like they can replace the morning show and still keep those numbers up and maybe at a cheaper price, which is another thing that they're thinking about because they don't care about the culture. A lot of times they just want to make money.

[Ish]

Analytical.

[Parks]

And that was the thing with the. That's what I was saying.

[Flip]

Flip just had this conversation with the.

[Parks]

Company that bought it. I don't think that. I don't think.

[Mark]

Think that it was.

[Parks]

It's more about culture. It's more about structuring the business.

[Flip]

Profitability.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not about that.

[Freeze]

What can we cut to make more money? I don't care about the culture.

[Ish]

Y' all keep wanting everybody to come care about culture.

[Parks]

Why wouldn't we?

[Joe Budden]

Let's.

[Ish]

We. Let's start having some. Some uncomfortable conversations. Because if we don't, then nothing will ever change.

[Freeze]

That's right.

[Ish]

Culture is Cool. But it's free to say true.

[Freeze]

That's true.

[Ish]

Like, he got in his car to talk about this gentleman and where he stands in New York City and the.

[Joe Budden]

Casino and what his real sights is set on. And whether you take him at his.

[Ish]

Word or not, I know how much it costs to have these satellites and the air rights. This business.

[Flip]

Attached to your city.

[Ish]

Yeah, this business. Hip hop, huh? The people that you talking to to buy these things, they don't care. It shouldn't keep being a surprise. It's a blessing when you bump into somebody who's in that position and loves hip hop.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's rare.

[Flip]

So when I first walked in, we flipped off mic, started asking me like, yo, what do you think these business owners biggest priority is? And I said, money, profitability. Like, yo, I said, even the sports owners out here that don't give a fuck if the team does well, they look at it like a gas station or like a clothing line or any other shit. They want the profit and maximum profit from these businesses. They don't necessarily give a fuck if we win the super bowl or the Stanley cup or anything else. Now, if you get a owner, that is. We give Jerry Jones shit all the time. Jerry Jones loves football. He wants to win. He wants to be competitive. It's a lot of these owners that could give two fucks if we losing or winning. As long as that number at the bottom of the page is big.

[Ian]

Yeah, bro, we do that.

[Parks]

But then we complain about our culture being watered down.

[Flip]

I agree with you.

[Parks]

I'm just saying we gonna complain about the culture being watered down. It's not the same. We let people come in. So what side do you stand when you see this?

[Flip]

I don't stand on either side. I just understand and see what is going on. So if we don't own shit, we can't necessarily dictate how somebody does what they do with some shit that they own.

[Joe Budden]

Own.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah. We keep selling. We run the sellout culture out.

[Ish]

And please don't get me up.

[Joe Budden]

There are companies out there that care very much about culture. But that is a blessing.

[Freeze]

That's.

[Ish]

Yes, it's not. It's not a lot of icing on the cake.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

And I don't think the companies hide it.

[Parks]

No, they don't.

[Ish]

I could tell you who feels. How about black people? I could tell it to you. Some of them big dogs. Thanks.

[Flip]

Salute.

[Ish]

That's a salute. The others, I act like they don't even exist in my world. And, you know, I don't want to make it sound like I don't have a. For the creators out there, for Ebro, for anybody that needs to hear it. While this may sound bad, the shit.

[Joe Budden]

We were saying about we don't own.

[Ish]

Culture and all that there's nothing but greatness to come from this. If that's what you want, right? We do our greatest shit when we learn. When they slam the door in your face or when they fire you, or when you thought that that payday was coming and it didn't come. Or when you stand in somewhere and you've been killing shit for years and they say, nigga, get the fuck out of our face.

[Joe Budden]

You're not invited to the secret, special.

[Ish]

Club that we got back there. That's when you go in your room. The greatest things are made in the tiniest rooms.

[Flip]

Full circle. That might be why they hit the ground running on Monday morning, because they might have been having some conversations, said, yo, we could still do this shit. This might be a blessing in disguise. We don't want to take any time off to get a little cool. Let's jump right back in. The horse in the race on Monday morning.

[Ish]

Hey, when it's your life, there's no right or wrong answer.

[Joe Budden]

True, True. There's no right or wrong answer.

[Ish]

I'm saying my professional opinion is he.

[Joe Budden]

Could have did both. You could have took this time to.

[Ish]

Go sit in your room, think some more. If you think you finished, do it again. When you think you're done, think some.

[Joe Budden]

More and then come back and not miss a beat. That's just my opinion.

[Ish]

Could have, but who knows?

[Mark]

And when you get fired, and this is the last thing I'll say, just when you get fired, sometimes that calculation that would normally be there wouldn't be like, he may have the advice you're giving him. He would probably give somebody else.

[Flip]

Yeah, but emotionally.

[Mark]

But emotionally, sometimes when you get fired, I know for me, a lot of times you want to show the world that you still matter outside of that company and you want to show yourself.

[Ish]

Nah. But there's a way to. Drake. Drake posted the fucking. And got you niggas in a duffel and got you niggas. And that's. Come on, enough of this.

[Mark]

But that's what I'm saying. You want to show the world that you not.

[Ish]

You hear the people talk. Hey, some of those are. Some of them are important people. You've made friends over the years. You've made niggas that hate you over the years. When you on the downside now, the time for the hate you people to be loud. Drake is posting the ax. He don't fuck with you. Sorry, that was. I tried to tell you niggas that when I came to Hot 97 and y' all was all super, super friendly with Drake, and I'm like, hey, there's another side. You'll learn. You learned. You learned X time. Now you on your show leaking the messages.

[Mark]

This is on the show. You didn't see that morning?

[Parks]

In the morning.

[Mark]

Oh, sorry. I forgot to look that morning. Can we talk about that a little bit? The. The leak of the messages in the acts. Because I actually message Ebro.

[Parks]

He leaked the message.

[Mark]

That whole exchange was entertaining to me.

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Flip]

I. I don't know.

[Freeze]

This is all new to me.

[Mark]

So. First, the ax. Petty.

[Ian]

Yes.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ian]

Drake is petty on Brian, on Brand.

[Mark]

No surprise.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I don't see nothing wrong with that.

[Mark]

Really?

[Parks]

Really.

[Freeze]

No, I don't either.

[Ian]

I don't either.

[Freeze]

To me, that's the equivalent of another one bites the dust.

[Ish]

Yeah. Or, Or I chuckle.

[Flip]

Or you wanted to. You were one of the leading catalysts in this Kendrick Lamar thing. When Kendrick was putting his foot in my ass, you were as loud as day on every single platform. When Not Like Us came out, Ebro was the main person saying, oh, it's over. He can do nothing to come back. He said that shit immediately.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up, man. I'm interrupting for something that's not. Not important.

[Ish]

Yo, can you hear me? Loud and clear.

[Freeze]

Yeah, we good.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Flip]

We not good.

[Joe Budden]

Fine. We not good. But how you doing? How you doing, man?

[Freeze]

Good, Joe.

[Ish]

How are you, man?

[Joe Budden]

I'm good. I'm good. I'm. I, I. I had a little. I had a little health scare recently, but I'm okay.

[Ish]

Are you still in the hospital, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not. I'm fine.

[Mark]

I'm fine.

[Joe Budden]

But what might you be calling about, my brother?

[Ish]

You're not on the air, are you, right now?

[Joe Budden]

I mean, I do record on Tuesdays, man. Oh, you do?

[Ian]

Okay.

[Freeze]

Okay, well, listen, I just want to make sure. I don't want to say anything crazy to you or about you by any chance.

[Ish]

Is your, Is your. Is your fantasy staff there, Joe?

[Freeze]

People that you bring to the. For the. For the draft?

[Joe Budden]

Are they there? They are by any chance? They are, yeah. Hey, guys.

[Freeze]

You know.

[Mark]

Yes, yes.

[Ish]

I'm not part of the staff.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all all in there, right? Yo, listen, my brother, all you got to do is send me your wire information.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no, the.

[Freeze]

Joe, Joe, first of all, I gotta. I gotta walk you through this before we just.

[Ish]

It ain't that simple. I'm not worried about no money.

[Freeze]

I'm not worried about that. This is what I didn't like, Joe.

[Ish]

It was a lot of Patty, Patty.

[Freeze]

And talking behind my back.

[Ish]

And it got back to me, Joe. And it was just like, hey, did.

[Freeze]

You see Kaiser put the wrong wide receiver?

[Ish]

And he up. This is easy money.

[Freeze]

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, I thought you doing a lot of talking, Joe. And I didn't appreciate that, Joe, because I was very quiet on the chat. I didn't go.

[Ish]

I didn't. You were nothing disrespectful.

[Joe Budden]

It's true.

[Freeze]

I was like, let's do this. Like, gentlemen, I.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Freeze]

You bitched up on the first bet that I wanted to make for the 10k.

[Ish]

You cut that in half.

[Freeze]

But I said, okay.

[Ish]

Didn't mention that to anybody.

[Freeze]

That was me and you talking. You know what I mean? And Joe, Joe, out of respect.

[Parks]

Give me a call.

[Flip]

Joe.

[Ish]

Hey, way to go, guys.

[Joe Budden]

Listen.

[Parks]

Get that, Joe.

[Ish]

Go.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, you're absolutely right. The better team won.

[Freeze]

Yes. Yes, it did.

[Joe Budden]

The better team won. Congratulations.

[Flip]

This team was horrible.

[Joe Budden]

No, listen, hey, listen. I was in the middle of very important Ebro Hot 97 talk, but let me. This is. This is. I'll tell you when I knew it was bad. Yeah. Because I didn't open the app.

[Ish]

Every highlight that I saw for the day was one of your players. Trayvon. And Trayvon Henderson goes off again. Oh, my God. Nico Collins catches the. Takes it for 60. Matt Stafford doing Matt Stafford. Rico Dowdle, all these. Oh, my God. Hey, know what my team did that? Absolutely nothing. This guy put 160 on my head.

[Joe Budden]

With a slot missing.

[Ish]

Romeo Adunze was pulled as an inactive.

[Joe Budden]

One minute before the game. People. 160 on me with a sleep. Slot missing. What? A slot missing. Yeah, there you go. That.

[Ish]

That's the Joe.

[Freeze]

That's all I want to hear.

[Ish]

Should I send you my wire information? Yes, please send. Yeah, and I got to get back to work so I can afford to pay. There you go. Hey, guys.

[Parks]

Love you guys.

[Ish]

See you in August.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry about that. That was. I let him died.

[Ish]

I ducked him.

[Joe Budden]

I duck.

[Ish]

It's the man thing to do. It's the man thing to do. Let him get his off back to Ebro.

[Mark]

Yeah. So. So we had the ax situation. Then we had on. Hold on.

[Freeze]

Ish was asking what the ax was.

[Ish]

So an emoji.

[Flip]

We started talking about if we thought it was petty. And do I think it's petty? I do think it's petty, but I also think it's fitting. And Ebro's my man. I love Ebro. I'm just saying. But you were one of the main rooting and cheering when I was getting my head cracked. So now I'm a root and cheer when you get your head cracked or seemingly get your head cracked. Cause we don't know Ebro can come out on top of this whole entire situation, God willing. But if I'm Drake, you fucking A right. I'm gonna do the same exact thing.

[Mark]

I think it's different, but it's all fair game. It's all fair game, but, you know.

[Joe Budden]

How do you feel?

[Mark]

I feel like saying, like, if you. I said I think it's different. I don't think they're the same thing. I'm disagreeing with y'.

[Joe Budden]

All. No, I'm listening.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark]

Like, it's like, if you say I lost a rap battle, my job is to assess your rap battle. That's different than me. You getting fired from a job and me putting an axe.

[Freeze]

You did more than said I lost the rap battle. No, but it's all about the rap. Yeah, but you minimizing it by just saying you said I lost the rap battle. It's a little different. Like, if I'm in a battle and you're on the sidelines with your.

[Flip]

Damn it.

[Freeze]

With your pom poms, like you cheerleading, rooting for me to lose.

[Joe Budden]

I get what Mark is saying.

[Freeze]

It ain't the same thing.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if I agree, but I understand what he's saying.

[Flip]

How do y' all understand that? When I came in here and said that we talked about this nigga and they were calling him all type of pedophiles and all that other shit. It wasn't a rap battle.

[Mark]

Hebrewing them.

[Flip]

No, I'm saying in life, it wasn't a rap battle. Then that nigga looked at that shit personally. He didn't look at it like a rap battle.

[Mark]

So if somebody call him a pedophile, then I. I think when they get fired from their job, put the axe up.

[Ish]

Fuck a axe or whatever, right?

[Mark]

But I'm saying, for this, Mark is.

[Joe Budden]

Saying that it's somebody losing their job during the holidays.

[Flip]

Shit ain't funny, bro. It ain't funny. So I ain't finished my point.

[Mark]

I'm sorry.

[Flip]

My point was he looked at this thing like it was a personal thing. Y' all looked at it like it was a rap battle. He was looking at it like it was a personal thing. And I'm fighting out here for my life. Life, my name, my character, my likeness, etc. Etc. So anybody that lended to that, it's up for them.

[Mark]

I get it.

[Joe Budden]

I don't have a take, cuz I. I know that I love Ebro more.

[Flip]

We love Ebro. And that's what I was about. I'm saying again, I juggled.

[Ish]

But I don't feel like that.

[Mark]

I mean, I'm petty and I say after people die. So I'm not. These are all arbitrary rules. I'm just. But for me, there's, there's, there's limits. Like there's just limits to me.

[Freeze]

I mean, yo, he's an emoji. He didn't go on a rant or nothing.

[Mark]

Yeah, I'm not outraged.

[Freeze]

That's my whole thing. Like he just tried.

[Ish]

Well, no, well, he also said die slow.

[Parks]

Well, I'm talking about that.

[Mark]

He took it a step further. Yeah, that's what he said.

[Ish]

Listen, listen, listen.

[Freeze]

Go ahead, Mark.

[Mark]

So then on the Ebro show, the Ebro. Excuse me, the Ebro Rosenberg and Style show, they talked about that, right? The acts. And then Ebro showed that Drake had texted him. Now mind you, him and Drake haven't texted in a long time. The last text I see was from September 2020. And then yesterday, yesterday in 2020, by the way, it was nice text. Like, hey, make sure you get some sleep. Make sure your rest is good for you. So they clearly had a good relationship in 2020. The next text is yesterday, where it comes from Drake and he just says, die slower, pussy. Then the next text says, we got some shit for you. That's it. And Ebro responded, relax, you're salty about losing to Kendrick. You're not at me. You're not mad at me. Love, bro. So he took the high road. Rosenberg, when he discussed it, was not as generous, I think, but I think Rosenberg was right. And he tweeted back. It's behavior like this that made it impossible for people to defend the wack shit that he does. He said, but.

[Parks]

But.

[Mark]

Happy Hanukkah, my one time pal. I truly wish you well, even if you're celebrating what you believe is our demise. Spoiler alert. We're about to be much bigger now that we won't be held back by a company that is and has been completely lost ever since they bought the station.

[Ish]

And that's my point about silence. That's my point. Once you have to start telling people what your plans are. Especially people that say, die slow, loser. You've lost the plot. Let the actions do the talking, and that's it.

[Freeze]

But I think. I think you can still do that right away. Like if you especially. Like if you have. If you were paying attention and the writing was on the wall and you might have had some things. All right, yo, we free now. We can go do what we talked about. Something like that. You don't have to. The wording.

[Ish]

Take your wife, take your Ls when I slept, walk around. They wasn't same kind stuff. Guess what? I wasn't looking for him to neither. Nor did I come out and say, hey, oh, no. This is what happened. Nah, nigga, get your shit off now. I gotta show you why I'm cutting different. I can't tell you. Everybody could tell you. Go ahead, Mark, I don't care. I'm in my rant bag. No fucking everybody could tell you. Talking is easy and cheat. Cost nothing to do and hold up cause I'm not done.

[Ian]

And.

[Ish]

And also, this is why I champion independence.

[Flip]

Of course you do, nigga.

[Ish]

You gonna send me an emoji when either I tap out the life game or when I decide to pivot and go another way. It ain't gonna be. He was fired while he was performing. Damn. During the holidays. Oh, they took it away from him. Unbeknownst. Oh, his political views got him. Never will there be a day where.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody could say that to Joe.

[Ish]

But it's happened too many times. That's why I say it's happened too many times.

[Flip]

And that's why I say words out of my mouth, bro. You handle it how you handle it. Because you have taken Ls, you've taken Ls over this 20 year period. You've taken taking a bunch of them.

[Joe Budden]

All right, relax, bro.

[Flip]

They build resilience a lot. They build armor, they build thick skin. And so for niggas that have not taken Ls, they are acting irrationally and emotionally, to some people's point. Because it's new here. They're new. Drake never got his ass whipped in front of zillions of people. It's new here. The niggas gonna be emotional again. I love Ebro. Ebro was the man of New York City radio for the last fucking three decades. This is new territory for him. So you telling him how to respond based on experiences that you have had.

[Joe Budden]

In taking Ls, in the great words of some little white girl that I saw on TikTok an L is a W that stopped trying.

[Ian]

Okay, okay, little white girl.

[Mark]

That's not. That made as much sense as that bar against ice did at the arson battle.

[Parks]

What are you talking about? I like that.

[Ian]

What was the bar against ice?

[Mark]

It was. I, I, I was all joking, but like, I thought it make. I didn't think it made any sense. I won't repeat it, cuz it's too complicated. But it, it didn't make no sense.

[Freeze]

It was just a play.

[Joe Budden]

You don't, you don't think that that bar makes sense.

[Parks]

That L is a.

[Joe Budden]

A W to stop trying. Yes, you do. You got PhD.

[Mark]

I'm trying to.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I get it.

[Mark]

You like it.

[Parks]

Yeah, Kaka.

[Freeze]

It makes sense, though.

[Joe Budden]

It makes all sense in the world.

[Parks]

You like it, Flip, you're my side like it.

[Ish]

No, it would have been adult from a young woman.

[Flip]

If it was a V. If it was a V, it.

[Freeze]

Would have been dope.

[Mark]

Yeah, V. A V would have been fire.

[Flip]

That would have been.

[Ish]

It would have been a postcard if.

[Mark]

It was a V. Yeah, a V. W that.

[Flip]

Stop trying to.

[Mark]

It sounds like you stopped trying, young lady.

[Ish]

Okay, so y' all missed what she said then.

[Mark]

Exactly.

[Flip]

I understand the premise.

[Parks]

No, you too old.

[Ish]

Y' all talking about the shape of the letters.

[Mark]

Yeah, I might be missing it. Tell me.

[Parks]

Break it to me, you know.

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Parks]

Mark.

[Mark]

What? Sometimes I don't understand shit.

[Freeze]

Tell me.

[Mark]

You just said.

[Joe Budden]

She's just saying every winner has failed a bunch.

[Mark]

Of course I get the message.

[Ish]

I'm saying it wasn't a letter thing.

[Joe Budden]

It was.

[Ish]

She's 12.

[Joe Budden]

She's not.

[Ish]

It wasn't. I wasn't.

[Parks]

It wasn't.

[Freeze]

I think she tried to get knocked down.

[Joe Budden]

18.

[Ish]

Not your finest work ever.

[Parks]

Minister Farrakhan. Look.

[Ish]

Oh, my God. All right, fine. Anyway, I won't be bringing y' all to TikTok Goodies anymore.

[Parks]

Please don't.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark]

Anyway, so it's time to play some music that I don't want to play, but it has to get played on Friday. We mentioned that Ebro in the Morning had gone the way of many other shows, but what we neglected to mention was that earlier that, that day, two other Giants, and I mean Giants legends, two of my favorites of all time, also lost their shows.

[Ish]

You right.

[Joe Budden]

But don't gas it up too much in the front because we gonna keep this short and pay the bills.

[Ish]

That's fair. That's fair. If you do what you about to do and then I come in and.

[Joe Budden]

Go.

[Ish]

In 1958, he paved the way for kids to have shoes. There are bills to pay. So I love him like that.

[Mark]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

You right, you right.

[Ish]

No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, I'm gonna give it up. I'm giving it up.

[Mark]

Radio legends ed lover and Ms. Jones separately were relieved of their duties on the block. I Forget the station ID 94. 7. Yeah. On Friday. It didn't have the big press release, but it's a sad day for radio.

[Freeze]

You sped up.

[Ish]

Me out. Get out.

[Freeze]

Get out.

[Ish]

No, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. The OGs. The OGs, man.

[Mark]

Do that.

[Joe Budden]

Ed.

[Ish]

Ed, love. I love you, Ms. Jones. I love you. We do this up here, so I.

[Joe Budden]

Got to do it for you.

[Ish]

I didn't want to do it. I don't know if my hip hop card will ever be the same.

[Ian]

Yeah, but little scuff on it. It's all right.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Mark]

Damn, it's sad. Well, what do you think? What's going to happen next for them?

[Parks]

God don't play about you.

[Mark]

They can join the put.

[Parks]

God don't play about you. Gonna say that. God don't play about me. Why let me. All them commented on your sleepwalking last year around this time off, so.

[Ish]

God, I don't know who commented on what.

[Parks]

Snuff the out of you.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Always try to equate it back to you.

[Parks]

Who the do you think you are?

[Ish]

I don't know what you talking about.

[Parks]

Giving you last standing.

[Ish]

No, not yet. Not yet. No, no, no, no.

[Mark]

You got a couple more.

[Ish]

Not yet. Raise my hand at the appropriate time.

[Joe Budden]

It's coming.

[Ish]

We got a few more months. Job not finished going in. Job not finished. Oh, y' all think they done House. A lot of you can't think they done.

[Parks]

Oh, Lord.

[Mark]

Sad day, indeed.

[Ian]

Yeah, Sad couple weeks, really.

[Freeze]

Y' all ain't right.

[Ish]

I thought Mark was saying some black. I thought Mark was saying something black and important.

[Flip]

Love you.

[Mark]

Yeah. Shout out to Ed.

[Parks]

We love you, everybody, man. Ebro, we love you too, man.

[Freeze]

I just.

[Flip]

And I think this. He played it for you know what I think?

[Parks]

Played it for the block.

[Flip]

And I. Yo n. I think them is. No, we. They played.

[Freeze]

No, we.

[Parks]

We.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You wasn't here.

[Parks]

Oh, I'm about to get him.

[Mark]

Main pot say thank you.

[Parks]

We know I'm about to get you.

[Joe Budden]

What you saying? Before I pay the bills. What you saying?

[Flip]

I think these companies are showing we.

[Parks]

Really could care less about everybody's expensive expendable.

[Flip]

We could care less about you because it's it's tact in how you do some of this. And then let these people go two weeks that worked for this organization for the last 30 years. Even if you bought it in 2019, they still have been a staple for you for the last six years. To let these people go two weeks before Christmas is a testament.

[Mark]

And again without a statement.

[Flip]

Without being a statement. And that is crazy.

[Parks]

They didn't do in business, I guess.

[Flip]

Because no, they don't have to do that, bro. They could have let these people go right after the new year.

[Parks]

A lot of companies do that though. They let you go before Christmas. There's a lot of complaints that niggas.

[Flip]

That don't give a fuck.

[Joe Budden]

I just want to let y' all know I I did like a hundred thousand hours on closing topic. Like I went to school to learn. Like there's a like. All right, y' all wanna have this fight?

[Parks]

Nah, nah.

[Ian]

Hey, what time is it?

[Joe Budden]

Debate em right now. Get em right now.

[Parks]

Nah gang. What time is it? Time is it, you bird ass nigga.

[Joe Budden]

But that's what makes this show.

[Parks]

This is the show.

[Ish]

The best show in the world. Yo, if it was predictable, it wouldn't be the best show in the world.

[Parks]

Hey yo, pay attention y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Parks]

That's how you pay the bills. That's how you say, yeah, yeah, sure.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, they don't see how I pay the bills. Look, look you do it. Look at you.

[Ish]

Listen, it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize Picks. All right, this episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. Whether you're starting a new routine or making player picks for the very first time, trying something new can indeed be hard. But in life and on Prize Picks, it always feels good to be right. With high pressure play up matchups every weekend and elite hoops action almost every night, the action never stops and Prize Picks lets you take control. Really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line and and pick more or less for your chance to win big. Also, prizepix now has early payouts. If your player gets off to a hot start, you now have the option to cash out those winnings before the game even finishes. Prizepix is also now available in all 50 states, including California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. And now's a good time to say.

[Joe Budden]

Goodbye to my fantasies. Fantasy season, man, it's over. It's over. Damn.

[Ian]

Sorry to hear that.

[Joe Budden]

Fantasy season is over. Justin Jefferson, I gotta tell you, you're a great man. I'M a huge fan of who you are as a football player and a person. And I know it's not your fault.

[Ish]

And you look beautiful out there with the double chains, them two chains. You look like you look great out there. I know it's not your fault.

[Joe Budden]

But this is where we come to the end of the road.

[Ish]

You'll never see my fantasy team again.

[Joe Budden]

Cause I just don't have faith in that boy. You throwing it everywhere but your way. And I'm sorry. Everybody got a touchdown but him.

[Flip]

Justin Jefferson dropped mad passes the other night.

[Joe Budden]

The 52nd ranked receiver is just a mess. It's a mess. Justin Jefferson, I love you, but it's time.

[Ish]

Also, Danny Dimes.

[Joe Budden]

Who knew your injury would affect my.

[Ish]

Jonathan. Jonathan Taylor. You carried me. You carried me to the playoffs, my brother. I can't be mad at you, but that injury, that injury brought you back.

[Joe Budden]

Down to mere mortal status and it didn't work out for me, man.

[Ish]

So I'll see you at the. To all people who lost their fantasy matchups, we'll get it right and be.

[Joe Budden]

Ready for the draft next year.

[Flip]

Indeed.

[Ish]

With that said, the Joe and Ish picks of the week. We are going with Josh Allen for more than 212 and a half.

[Flip]

Half.

[Ian]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Passing yards.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Lamar Jackson for more than 29 rushing yards. Shador Sanders for more than 11 and a half rushing yards. Shador Sanders for More than 176 passing yards. And Dak for more than 22 completions. Also, don't forget, if you download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. Only on prize picks where it's good to be. Right. Quick sports question for y' all before.

[Joe Budden]

I get into this Jake, Paul, Anthony, Joshua fight this weekend.

[Ian]

Should Jackson Dart retire?

[Joe Budden]

Look at you. Yeah, yeah.

[Ian]

She was on the other foot. She was on the other foot.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Freeze]

It wasn't.

[Ish]

It's not.

[Joe Budden]

But he's let him get in his way.

[Ian]

He's been evaluated for five concussions in the 10 games that he's played. He's gone out. He missed two games with concussions. Should he retire?

[Flip]

I know five.

[Ish]

He's 6, 5, 2, 30 and built like a ox. He's 21 years old.

[Joe Budden]

How old is this guy?

[Ish]

He's 21.

[Joe Budden]

They need to do a better job protecting him. He needs. And I think he'll learn that. But. Touche, touche.

[Mark]

That was a good one.

[Joe Budden]

But two had problems before he got to the league.

[Ish]

No he is hip, which is now.

[Ian]

That'S really been the bigger story, I think, because he can't move out there like he can't throw with any torque because he up his hip last year. I think it's over. So you're right in that one.

[Freeze]

I'd appreciate it. Congratulations too.

[Ian]

Congratulations.

[Freeze]

There we go. Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you.

[Ish]

My question for you guys last night.

[Joe Budden]

Was, was the Knicks vs Spurs in season tournament championship game? Yeah.

[Freeze]

Okay.

[Ish]

A lot of people had the Thunder.

[Joe Budden]

Just cakewalking their way there. Women, Yana had other plans and the Knicks have looked great this entire run.

[Ish]

While I don't know who won the.

[Joe Budden]

Game because it hasn't happened yet.

[Ish]

If the Knicks win, which their favorite.

[Joe Budden]

Or two, would you put up the banner?

[Ian]

Oh, the title banner for the tournament.

[Freeze]

For the tournament.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You gotta put it.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I will say the Lakers have put.

[Joe Budden]

Theirs up and the Bucks have put theirs up. They also have won recent championships.

[Freeze]

Still putting it up.

[Mark]

My question is, do you put up division championships? If the answer is yes, then this is as good as that. You know, if you only put up championships and I say no, but if you a lot of most teams will put up Atlantic division championship that up, then this cup counts. I think that that's worth it.

[Joe Budden]

Good point.

[Flip]

And I think that's a great point. I think the NBA will make them put it up.

[Joe Budden]

Another good point. Yeah. They may not have the option tonight. Just as a Knicks fan, I could. I just see it.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I'm just getting ahead of it.

[Joe Budden]

I see it coming. I see it coming already.

[Freeze]

They have a trophy for it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Wins a win. I don't give a.

[Mark]

And they put that to get a little something.

[Joe Budden]

Last championship was 73.

[Flip]

That the Dallas Cowboys won the the Mickey Mouse Invitational.

[Freeze]

You better keep that shit off till.

[Ish]

We get another ring.

[Flip]

Fuck outta here.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, fair. I put my fucking spades tournament trophy up and the one I made for myself after I came from Mark's house.

[Ish]

I was like, here we go. What'd that trophy look like?

[Ian]

What'd that trophy look like?

[Ish]

It's on a napkin. Sticky note on my fridge construction paper. Oh, man. Okay. Big fight. Big fight. This Friday on Netflix. Long awaited. What was Originally Trevonte Davis vs. Jake Paul morphed into Anthony Joshua versus Jake Paul. And this Friday is the day these.

[Joe Budden]

Two gentlemen will fight. I have the unpopular opinion that Jake Paul comes out victorious in this. I think he beats homeboy up a little bit. Maybe he'll get beat up, there'll be an exchange. But I don't think Anthony Joshua, whose homeboy that gave Anthony Joshua's last three fights. Here we go.

[Ish]

2023.

[Joe Budden]

December 23rd win by TKO. Round five, mid fight stoppage against Swedish heavyweight.

[Ish]

That's 2023, dog ahead to 2026. Don't yes to hear me to death. Tired of hearing about old dudes and they old war stories and they old fights. Francis. 2024 win by KO round two got him awesome. That was when the chatter was high. That was when. Hey, hey. That's like when y' all bigged up Deontay Wilder when he was coming out in the Black Panther outfit. And then we saw how that happened after that. Listen, I'm with my. I'm with. I'm with my black card wherever it's good.

[Flip]

Took the Black Panther juice away from.

[Ish]

Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. This has the potential for some of that. So what's up? Anthony. What's his name? Anthony.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Ish]

That beat homeboy up the short. The shorts. Latin Ruiz. Come on, man. With this. I don't want to. Don't Anthony Joshua me to death. Because we all are supposed to hate Jake Paul collectively. That's all I'm saying.

[Mark]

It's like a good enough reason to.

[Ish]

Me why just because we. I ain't with you.

[Mark]

I know you.

[Ish]

I ain't with people. Hey, we all gonna go jump off the bridge. Want to come? No, no, I don't see it like that. Anthony Joshua is here for a reason. We gotta see. We.

[Mark]

I gotta see for a reason.

[Ish]

I gotta see it. A lot of reason.

[Flip]

He ain't the fastest, but that's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

Yo, if anybody knows how I feel to get old. How old is this?

[Flip]

I do.

[Mark]

How old are you?

[Ish]

Yo, dog.

[Mark]

Oh, 36.

[Ish]

36 is the beginning. That's that. Till he lay that hand on you.

[Mark]

Till he George Foreman you.

[Ish]

No, not. Pardon me.

[Mark]

Four years old giving people.

[Ish]

But not in boxing. In life. 36 is when I had to stop drinking all the drinks I liked.

[Joe Budden]

36.

[Ish]

6 wasn't no more milk and milkshakes all day.

[Freeze]

No more simply.

[Ish]

What the. Simply lemonade had to go Pepsi all day.

[Parks]

No.

[Ish]

You have to start making life changes at 36. This is a life change for Anthony Joshua.

[Mark]

He's going to start fighting people he can beat. It's a great life change.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, I'm.

[Ish]

I'm from Missouri.

[Parks]

He.

[Ish]

He going to have to show me.

[Parks]

But I hate it.

[Freeze]

Yes, you hate.

[Flip]

Hate it.

[Mark]

I love the. I'm gonna watch the fight. I'm excited to watch the fight. I just hate Jake Paul.

[Joe Budden]

Well, this will be, this will be the most viewed fight because of streaming and.

[Ian]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

So we know that people are gonna watch this fight. You said you hate Jake Paul.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Listen, you gotta be careful. That's his peoples now.

[Parks]

Jake Paul's cool.

[Flip]

Jake Paul, your people. I thought it's his brother.

[Ish]

Well, that's what Parks is saying.

[Joe Budden]

I'm in the poll.

[Ian]

Yeah, he's in the poll.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm in the polls.

[Ian]

He's a poll.

[Ish]

Now I'm a poll. Me and Michael Paul. There you go.

[Ian]

Joe Paul, Michael Paul.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. Oh man.

[Ish]

So listen, this is a, this is a, this is a very anticipated fight and there's a lot of talk around.

[Joe Budden]

The fight because this is not an exhibition.

[Ish]

This is not an exhibition.

[Joe Budden]

We're used to Jake Paul doing exhibitions. Yeah.

[Ish]

This one is for the book.

[Joe Budden]

So we don't know how it's going to play out.

[Ish]

All of the. Is Jake Paul a real fight fighter?

[Joe Budden]

We don't do that up here. We acknowledge that Jake, yeah, he takes it serious.

[Ish]

But there was all the talk about, you don't know about the verdicts of these fights.

[Freeze]

True, that's true.

[Ish]

Because Jake Paul is worth so much.

[Joe Budden]

Money to exhibition sports.

[Mark]

That's true.

[Ish]

And if I were worth that much.

[Joe Budden]

I probably also would put something in the contract to say don't touch my face.

[Ish]

Anthony Joshua is 6 foot 6, 245.

[Joe Budden]

And he's not for play play. He is a real, real established champion.

[Ish]

Championship level fighting fighter. This is not Jake Paul's other opponents where we weren't sure. This guy who was just put there for Jake Paul to beat up on.

[Joe Budden]

Or just somebody whose hands are not there.

[Ish]

This is a whole new ball game.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Jake's only 6:1. So that's a, that's a big size difference.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying. He's given up a lot of size and he's used to fighting tomato cans, you know what I'm saying?

[Flip]

I won't even call him tomato cans. I would just think that he was well more equipped than all the other people because some of them might have been just retired athletes. But this dude is a boxer. He's a trained boxer. Anthony Joshua is a different animal who's currently in shape.

[Freeze]

Yes, yes.

[Ish]

Hasn't missed a beat. I've been watching him just fought last.

[Flip]

Year, call it that.

[Joe Budden]

And, and that's the thing.

[Ish]

Anthony Joshua's last fight, a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

The chatter around him was you're done.

[Flip]

Hang up your hat.

[Joe Budden]

You're done. Stoppage in the fifth round. We don't just leave gracefully. We don't want to kill you, but it didn't look the greatest.

[Freeze]

Yeah, but like seven, what, seven, eight months. Right before that, he had another fight. He knocked him out in the second round.

[Joe Budden]

Only as good as your last bout.

[Freeze]

I get it, but I'm just saying. Not enough to say hang it up.

[Joe Budden]

Up.

[Freeze]

I can see if I'm getting mopped up. Two, three, four fights.

[Flip]

He wasn't being revered like he once was. Even. You know what I mean, for the last couple years. He wasn't.

[Parks]

Yeah, they were looking. They were looking forward to him fighting Wilder. Yeah, that was a whole buildup to everything that happened.

[Ish]

If Anthony Joshua wins this fight, do.

[Joe Budden]

You think this does anything to change that reputation or some of that.

[Ish]

Some of the bad talk that was.

[Joe Budden]

Around his last fight?

[Mark]

No, because Jake Paul is the boxing equivalent of a boy band. He's put together.

[Parks]

Together.

[Mark]

Manufactured. Not that interesting to me. Hold up. I hate all of them.

[Ish]

Flip it.

[Mark]

Jake, Paul, Logan, Paul, Chris, Paul, Anthony Joshua in three.

[Ish]

Joe Paul.

[Mark]

Right, exactly.

[Freeze]

Paul McCartney.

[Flip]

Right.

[Parks]

No, no, no. What Jake Paul has done is that he has started off streaming with his brother, and he has, you know, when people doubted him and. And he has found a sport and found a lane, and he has dominated. Not only dominated it, he has tried his best to. To take it serious. To show that I'm here to stay, I'm not here to play. Anything I put my mind to, I can do. And the fans and people that watched him can respect that. We respect that. And I feel like a lot of sports analysts respect him as well, because he's putting the work.

[Mark]

I respect how serious he is.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

Like, he's.

[Joe Budden]

I flipped on so many of my Jake Paul thoughts because they probably.

[Parks]

You.

[Mark]

The pause.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no. 1.

[Ish]

I mean, I thought he was a fluke at first, too.

[Freeze]

I think everybody did at first.

[Joe Budden]

I still do. You wouldn't fight him now.

[Parks]

Let me ask you.

[Ish]

No, look, listen.

[Mark]

He beat the shit out of me.

[Flip]

Yo, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. If we watch them fight and it looks like a real match and he.

[Mark]

Comes out victorious, then what would change.

[Parks]

Your mind on him?

[Ish]

What do you need to see my words?

[Parks]

What would change your mind on him?

[Mark]

Jake Paul goes into this fight, fight, looks serious, holds his own, and maybe even wins. Then I will finally take him seriously as a boxer.

[Flip]

Got you.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Ian]

I think that's valid. Okay, that's valid.

[Flip]

That's accountability, but it ain't happening.

[Ish]

Jake Paul is proving to me that.

[Joe Budden]

He'S not a fluke. He has hands and can fight 1, 2.

[Ish]

What he's done business wise, is absolutely phenomenal. And if I respect that, then I have to respect what comes along with that, which may be a couple of weeks wins that people didn't really show up for.

[Joe Budden]

I'm fine with that too.

[Ish]

Also, he don't run. He don't run regardless of what he's putting in the contract. If I was supposed to fight Tiny.

[Joe Budden]

Tank, we know who Tank is.

[Ish]

But if I have the advantage in height and weight and everything, I'll fight Tank. You remove him and put Anthony Joshua there. And for him to still be there ready to fight, it's respectable. You gotta at least respect it. 1 and 2. In the great words of Mike Tyson, everybody has a plan until they hit.

[Joe Budden]

Until you get hit. Yeah.

[Ish]

So no matter what you think of him, if he can fight and he gets one lucky one off, homeboy Mike.

[Flip]

Could fall as Haseem Rahman, Anthony Joshua.

[Ish]

Maybe could hit the ground. And if I believe in everything I just said about Jake Paul business, boxing and all a of that, that's probably what the fans want to see.

[Freeze]

Indeed. I got, I got Jake Paul hitting the ground.

[Ish]

I don't know if the. I don't even know if the.

[Flip]

I don't.

[Ish]

But. Okay, but what does that do for the fight?

[Joe Budden]

I'm just.

[Mark]

I know, I know that y' all hold on.

[Ish]

I know y' all are talking about the real live action. I'm not mad at that. But bigger picture, what would that do?

[Flip]

It helps.

[Freeze]

It does help.

[Flip]

It helps because it validates the authenticity of the fight.

[Ian]

Correct.

[Flip]

If Joshua hits him with some real boop, boop, boop, boop sharp shit, that really hurts him. And he gets up from the drop, it validates him. One taking a bout from a really hard hitting heavyweight that has been legitimized in a real sport. And it also legitimizes the matches to show that this not just some bullshit where they dancing around hugging, it's some real shit going on.

[Ish]

I think it could have the opposite effect. If Jake Paul gets up from that hit and does some Rocky Balboa win. People are gonna be like, oh my God, it's scripted. They're gonna have to see the ambulance come pick him that white boy out the ring to believe that, oh, snap, he wow, this is for real. This is not drama.

[Flip]

We're in the age of slow mo. And if they show Paul, hit him with some real solid punches, where the sweat is going over there and all of that, you can see that this shit ain't staged. And I think it'll help their whole entire brand.

[Ish]

What if they both fall? What do you think that does for the fight?

[Freeze]

If you see both, I think it legitimizes even more.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

I mean, we already know it's legit, but if they both get hit, like real punches and fall punches, it's like, oh, they came out fighting for real. Yes.

[Flip]

And people love the show.

[Freeze]

We love.

[Flip]

Bro. We love all of the, the violence.

[Freeze]

Like unfortunately, human beings.

[Joe Budden]

Exactly.

[Flip]

It's gladiator sports. And I think that if both of them walk out of there bleeding with teeth missing, everybody gonna be like, yo, next one.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And people gotta understand, man, man, boxing is changing. You know what I mean? Meaning that it's new sheriffs in town, you know, Jake Paul and whatever they're doing as far as business, they're taking boxing in a new direction. And even though the old school people don't want to accept it, this is just what's happening. The viewerships when, when it comes to him, the viewerships are different than what it was when Tyson was fighting, when Lennox was fighting, when even Floyd was even when Floyd was fighting. Floyd had a lot of view. Don't get it twisted. We talking about the age. The age. We talking about the age.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's more, man. Hey, camera on me, man. I'm ready. I'm ready to say it. I'm ready to deliver a hot take. Anthony Joshua hits the ground. Man, get his tall ass out of here. Get him out of here. We got it. You used to have hands. You won a couple of fights. One punch. I don't know, I don't know what that. He was a champion before. Watch.

[Parks]

Undisputed champion.

[Ish]

Is he a champion now? Watch your fucking mother it now.

[Parks]

He's from London. Hello.

[Ish]

I, I tough, I, I got, I got him going down. I have him hitting the floor at least once. Win, lose or draw. I'm not trying to pick a winner. I just, I just want to see somebody go down. And I think Jake Paul takes this seriously. I think he takes this seriously. I think he looks at this as a chance to be a reputation changer.

[Mark]

I agree.

[Ish]

Seeing that, which is why you even down with taking off the exhibition tag. You may be trying to take the next step. And honestly, if they come to him with a list of names, I Could see him being given carte blanche to pick who he thinks he has a good shot against. I don't think they just pick this guy who is a monster. And Jake Paul's totally scared of. I don't think he's scared.

[Freeze]

I don't think Jake Paul's scared of.

[Ish]

I don't think he's scared of any.

[Freeze]

I don't think he's scared of anybody now.

[Ish]

You don't need to be scared to lose my son.

[Mark]

Don't get scared when he climb up a ladder. Not cuz he can't get hurt. Cuz he. He just don't know no better. Jake Paul think he know what's going on. He gonna be sleep.

[Freeze]

You got to get asleep.

[Parks]

Oh yeah.

[Mark]

He going to get hit with that.

[Ish]

Do drop.

[Mark]

It's a rap.

[Joe Budden]

Do drop. Do drop.

[Flip]

Three rounds.

[Mark]

Yep.

[Ish]

Stop it, Mark. Yeah, cuz you say stop it.

[Mark]

Watch it.

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Mark]

Watch it.

[Freeze]

Stop it.

[Mark]

It's a exhibition.

[Parks]

You going see Friday.

[Mark]

That's it. It's not an exhibition.

[Joe Budden]

This will not be a three round knockout.

[Mark]

No watch.

[Joe Budden]

Stop it.

[Freeze]

I don't gotta.

[Ish]

Are you gonna watch? Are you gonna be up watching?

[Mark]

Yes.

[Flip]

How many rounds do you think it goes?

[Mark]

Seven.

[Joe Budden]

I think seven's a minimum.

[Flip]

I don't think so. I don't think Anthony Joshua's gonna be in good enough shape to go that distance like that.

[Parks]

Nope.

[Mark]

He ain't gonna need it.

[Joe Budden]

Andy.

[Ish]

Joshua gonna be the club.

[Parks]

He gonna be a VIP after the fight.

[Mark]

Ain't gonna be long.

[Parks]

Anthony Joshua ain't no slouch. I ain't gonna got his outfit already for us.

[Flip]

Exactly.

[Ish]

He's not a slouch.

[Joe Budden]

Nah. Jake Paul ain't letting Anthony Joshua just dress up and go to a club.

[Ish]

Oh yeah, you ain't just going to.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever Florida club you ain't walking in.

[Flip]

You gotta have a knot on your face, something.

[Ish]

He better have a scratch, a bruise, some. Maybe a little sweat, some blood that can't come over.

[Mark]

He'll be overheated. His right wrist might be a little sore.

[Ish]

Nothing a little shower can't fix as as far crazy.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

You talking about Joshua getting knocked down. I got. I got Jake Paul getting knocked down. Joshua's been knocked down before.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

It ain't like a big deal like. Oh my God, he's the first one to do it. That's why I think this is.

[Mark]

That's a good point.

[Flip]

It's a different.

[Parks]

I think that Anthony Joshua has something to prove.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. No, he has something to prove.

[Freeze]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

I want to Teach him a lesson.

[Flip]

No, I can't go in here and get knocked out by this amateur turned pro.

[Parks]

But also teach him a lesson because how Jake Paul has been walking through.

[Flip]

People and saying that, you know, it's not about.

[Freeze]

I can't let him. You can't do that to me.

[Flip]

I have to move to the United States. If I'm answering Joshua and I let.

[Mark]

This boy beat me and I get beat by YouTuber.

[Flip]

Yeah, you can't go back home.

[Parks]

Look at the ignorance.

[Ish]

Look, you can't go back home.

[Joe Budden]

But also, that's the thing. Nothing changes about Jake Paul's career if he loses this.

[Flip]

He's expected to.

[Joe Budden]

Everything can change about. About the future for Anthony Joshua if he loses.

[Flip]

I concur.

[Joe Budden]

I think they both have big plans after this.

[Ish]

So this is a weighted bout.

[Joe Budden]

There are things on the line. I agree.

[Freeze]

I agree.

[Flip]

I think once Anthony Joshua can't lose.

[Ish]

This and pop right back up talking.

[Joe Budden]

About some Tyson fury.

[Ish]

I just don't see that happening.

[Joe Budden]

I think they both take this really seriously. I think they've both done a lot of training.

[Ish]

They've been focused. I've seen some of the interviews out there. They both look like they don't want to be bothered with any of that.

[Joe Budden]

They just want to see each other.

[Ish]

It's time now. That's what I love about fight week. At some point, it's time. Like, I'm a fighter. Everything is blocked out. There's no sex, there's no clubs. I want to see you and do.

[Joe Budden]

Something bad to you. So I'm looking forward to it.

[Flip]

And you got prediction.

[Ish]

Oh, man.

[Joe Budden]

The first question Logan Paul asked me when I sat down was, how do you feel about Jake.

[Mark]

Press you?

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Freeze]

Say the wrong thing.

[Parks]

Oh, that's why you up here.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's why. Straightening the shit out of him. How you feel about Jake?

[Flip]

That's why you up here.

[Ish]

I'm just with whatever is more. Whatever will will be the more dramatic outcome. And for me, that's Jake Paul knocking him down. Not out, just down.

[Flip]

If he knock him out violently, violently.

[Freeze]

Australia, you think that's the bigger outcome? Jake Paul knocking him down, then him knocking Jake Paul down 100%.

[Mark]

That is a big deal. He's right. That would be.

[Flip]

It just ain't happening a th percent.

[Mark]

But it ain't happening.

[Freeze]

I don't see that.

[Mark]

It ain't happen.

[Flip]

You got Jake Jake winning.

[Mark]

He got Jake losing.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm going Jake. I'm going Jake Paul. I got Jake Paul winning.

[Flip]

Jake.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm going with Jake Paul.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you are?

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

We ain't got what you got. Don't skip me.

[Mark]

You think the white man, huh?

[Ish]

Yes, sir.

[Parks]

Oh, man.

[Mark]

You know what? I got Joshua.

[Freeze]

I got Jake Paul winning, but also like I keep saying, I have him touching the mat.

[Mark]

I got Jake Paul.

[Ian]

Joshua.

[Flip]

Joshua.

[Ian]

Yes.

[Ish]

Joshua fell off. Joshua Anthony Joshua fell off.

[Mark]

He did.

[Ish]

If Anthony Joshua is who y' all say he is, then why is he taking this fight?

[Freeze]

He would.

[Ish]

Why is he even here right now?

[Mark]

He's falling off.

[Ish]

Why is he in this predicament?

[Ian]

There's a difference between pros and non pros, Joe.

[Flip]

He still got hands and he's still a professional fighter.

[Parks]

He's tough.

[Flip]

If Joshua don't get him out of if Joshua don't get him out there and think three, I got Paul taking it. If it goes past three, he said.

[Freeze]

Why is he taking this fight against Jake Paul Live on Netflix.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, Joe.

[Mark]

The cash C. I get money and I get to whoop somebody else.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's right there.

[Mark]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

That was aggressive. That was aggressive.

[Parks]

It's right there for me.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Ish]

That was aggressive.

[Joe Budden]

Javonte. Tank Davis was at the top of the world and he took fight so that we understand why he took not.

[Freeze]

I'm going to say anybody but you.

[Flip]

Going to take the fight.

[Ish]

But they took the fight in very different states standings. That's what I'll say. Gervonte. Tank Davis, when he took it, we said, oh, champ, I don't care about what Lamont. That Lamont roach fight champ. He's got hands.

[Joe Budden]

You can't play with him.

[Ish]

Anthony Joshua is just not coming in with all and I don't want to sound like a broken record, but he's not coming in with that same flair.

[Flip]

I agree.

[Ish]

He's not coming in.

[Freeze]

Just which I think he know that, Joe.

[Ish]

That's more the reason.

[Flip]

Hits hard, bro. He hits hard. Like we can't discount the fact that he hits hard.

[Ish]

Jake. Ain't nobody joining Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake. That's a Friday night. I will be absolutely glued to this.

[Flip]

Indeed.

[Ish]

This Friday, December 19th, 8pm Only on Netflix. No Netflix. Sharing passwords. You gotta have your own Netflix. And yeah. Should be fireworks.

[Ian]

I'll be there.

[Flip]

Yeah, indeed.

[Ish]

I want to get back to that.

[Joe Budden]

Ebro stuff for a second.

[Freeze]

I do not you.

[Ish]

It's juicy out there.

[Flip]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Parks]

Not you, mister. You spent countless hours and lessons countless.

[Flip]

On closing a topic.

[Mark]

Mr.

[Parks]

I want to close the topic.

[Flip]

You spent that money for nothing.

[Ish]

Yeah, man, We Wanted to go in.

[Parks]

Don't try to go back and rethink and try to stop. Step on our.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Go ahead, champ. What you got to say, Mr. Insider?

[Joe Budden]

Just back to. No, I'm not giving inside information. I'm just saying back to my point about just taking your time. You jump right into the AdSense game.

[Ish]

Like it's different when you wake up.

[Joe Budden]

Every morning at a certain time and you're paid to do a service.

[Parks]

Okay, true.

[Joe Budden]

That's back to company men versus people who make make it in the wild wild west. Getting up on your own volition, on.

[Ish]

Your own will, for free is a different ball game. I would just the AdSense check. I mean that. Not to say he should have went.

[Joe Budden]

To Patreon, but I mean, shit, he.

[Ish]

Could have went to Patreon. He could have went to Substack. There's other things that could be happening also. It's the holidays. Back to that. Back to that. This stuff is important during a break.

[Joe Budden]

And taking your time.

[Ish]

It's Christmas and New Year's. The whole industry is about to take a break. You can make this look as natural as you want it to look. They don't have to know nothing. I just think it's an opportunity squandered when you've been working for 20 something years in a row.

[Flip]

I disagreeing with you again from my original point. I just think emotions was running high and it might not have been the most calculated, logical thing based on somebody's.

[Freeze]

Emotional standing or I've been working for 20 years and this is all I know.

[Ian]

Yeah, yeah. There could be some of it.

[Freeze]

So I gotta take back to the work immediately.

[Ish]

I'm agreeing with you. And there's too many big time moves being made. Howard Stern just announced that he signed a brand new three year deal.

[Ian]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Round of applause for Howard. Howard. Howard proves time and time again that the only thing he cares about in life is the gig.

[Freeze]

The gig.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't. You're not there for money. Even though the money is life changing. And he probably. I'm sure he beat out his last contract of 100 million, which was 100 million a year. Something more, something crazy.

[Flip]

His life has been changed 17 times by the money.

[Ish]

He can't.

[Joe Budden]

He just continues to be an example.

[Ish]

I mean, I don't know that I would do it at his age, but it's admirable.

[Flip]

You might be the. That'll do it though.

[Joe Budden]

I know I don't take it off the table.

[Flip]

Yeah, you might be.

[Ish]

It really is admirable. And it says a lot about even.

[Mark]

Serious.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Ish]

I don't want to get to. This is a good time for me to talk about all you buildings and podcasters business, but I'm trying to be kind, but I ain't heard too much about that core daddy. Serious? You ain't heard a peep. Y' all Got Howard at 85 years old. Got to stay in the building and tell me something about. About what's happening over there.

[Freeze]

That's a good point.

[Ian]

Valid.

[Ish]

I heart to Netflix.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I heart to Netflix that deal.

[Mark]

Big one.

[Ish]

Pretty big. I don't know if it's been finalized or not, but they announced it in the. In the Internet streets.

[Flip]

Are the numbers.

[Ian]

No, they probably won't be.

[Ish]

They won't be when the chessboard.

[Joe Budden]

When the kings and queens on the chessboard are moving. They ain't.

[Mark]

Ain't.

[Ish]

The numbers only come out during the nigga shit.

[Joe Budden]

This ain't.

[Ish]

This is company to company high. 97 is media code. That's private. That's private.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Ish]

I heart is not that they are a media conglomerate. I know people keep trying to force.

[Joe Budden]

Them into radio wars, but you can't. You can't hold. I heart is not. No, it's not that much bigger than that.

[Ish]

Netflix making a lot of interesting moves. They are big dog on the block spending. And this is why.

[Joe Budden]

I'll save that rant. I'm gonna save that rent. I'll save that rant because I know.

[Ish]

It'S some of y' all out there that's not happy. There's some of y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Ish]

Some of y' all out there is just like when. When you was an artist.

[Joe Budden]

Artists.

[Ish]

I had no choice. When they put Pump it up on the Fast and Furious soundtrack a week.

[Joe Budden]

Before my album came out and it sold 375,000 copies. Week one, when people had to go to the stores with my song as the first single. The nerve of y' all to then.

[Ish]

Say that I flopped when the Same.

[Joe Budden]

Song sold 93,000 copies for a brand new act.

[Ish]

But guess what?

[Joe Budden]

I. I didn't have control.

[Ish]

I didn't own.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't control what could and could not be done with something that I created. And I've been telling y' all forever.

[Ish]

That part of my stance as a podcaster in independent land is from that.

[Joe Budden]

Trauma, is from going through that.

[Ish]

Never will there be a day where you strike that seismic of a deal and I don't have a say in it. That's just.

[Joe Budden]

All right. I'LL save it.

[Mark]

I get that.

[Joe Budden]

I'll save it. Yeah, I'll save it. I'll save it. I'll save it.

[Ish]

Me, I would be pissed if some of y' all out there. I know it's pissed. I'm not saying it, but I know it. But it's reason to be mad. It's reason to be mad.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, Come on. We don't talk about music.

[Mark]

Yeah, let's talk a little music.

[Ish]

2026. I got a clinic coming for you, y'. All. I got an absolute clinic coming for y'. All 2026. If the scene keeps shaping out the way that it's shaping out, boy, y' all in for a goodie.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. Go ahead. Because I'll just sit here and talk. I'll just sit here and end up talking. I'll wait. Because the same thing like I said about the E, bro. Now, anybody could talk. I'm. We ain't. It ain't.

[Parks]

Oh, you gonna show acts. You gonna show happening.

[Ish]

Yo, you at Benihanas. They doing it.

[Flip]

You don't gotta get onions if you don't want onions.

[Ish]

Yo, it's right in front of your face. They ain't playing with me. I'm the last. I'm the only that own this. You can't play with me. What are you talking? Boy, we so passed that. Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Who dropped music? Yo, who dropped. Come on.

[Ish]

Who dropped music? Who dropped some music?

[Freeze]

I want to go back because. Because when we. When we recorded our last pod, it was a lot of music that dropped. And I did say I did not get to listen to everything, you know, by the time we recorded Walking Back.

[Ish]

Your pushy take.

[Freeze]

No, what I said I like. I love the song.

[Ish]

They heating you up.

[Joe Budden]

They frying you up out there.

[Ish]

I know you don't care. I know you don't care, but it's my job to at least see it and bring it to you and make awkward moment.

[Flip]

Still.

[Parks]

Your point still stands as far as what?

[Joe Budden]

No. This said that's one of Free's worst takes ever.

[Parks]

I read that.

[Ish]

I don't know if I agree with that. Okay.

[Freeze]

But I'm talking about Conway's album.

[Ish]

Oh, there we go.

[Freeze]

I don't give a about that. I'm here to talk about Conway's album because I listened to it, and that is amazing. Conway clearly won the weekend for me. Out of everything that dropped. I listened to it all.

[Ish]

I'm not mad at that.

[Freeze]

I had time to sit and digest.

[Joe Budden]

It's a great album.

[Freeze]

Every project that dropped and that Conway album is.

[Joe Budden]

It's exceeded expectations.

[Ish]

What?

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ian]

Shout out to Machine Man.

[Ish]

By a lot.

[Freeze]

Yes.

[Ish]

By a lot.

[Freeze]

Yes. So I just wanted to come in and give that album as proper praise because I just heard the one record y' all played.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

And I sat and listened to that project and ran it back a couple more times. So salute to you, Conway. Amazing project.

[Joe Budden]

What else happened in music?

[Mark]

Let's try to look and see.

[Joe Budden]

Do I have a take?

[Freeze]

I need to walk back.

[Joe Budden]

I'd be walking back. My bad. Take time. Cool. I think I do. Good.

[Mark]

You listen to 21 and anymore, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Ish]

I stand by it. I still.

[Freeze]

I still.

[Ian]

I don't love that. I didn't like the production of that album very much. I will say that.

[Parks]

There was no good songs on the album.

[Ian]

No, I'm not. The second half of the album got better to me, production wise. The beats at the first half just lost me a little bit.

[Mark]

Same.

[Joe Budden]

I like it. I like it still. I understand the criticism out there, but I really enjoy the project.

[Flip]

All right. So now.

[Freeze]

So now it's addressed to Pooh Shit. Since everybody else.

[Parks]

Oh, shit, nigga.

[Ish]

That's right.

[Flip]

So now try to check me last time.

[Mark]

Let me see you.

[Freeze]

So now people have been throwing up the Apple Music thing in my face.

[Flip]

Pause.

[Freeze]

Hey, look, it's number one on Apple Music.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Freeze]

I'm not sure if you're aware, but that list changes damn near hourly. Like, I know people that stay up to 2 in the morning to catch themselves at number one on Apple Music to say, hey, I'm number one right now. That's not really an indication to me. To me, because I see an album be number one, and then three hours later, it's not on there no more.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, fair point.

[Freeze]

So I'm not. That does not hold weight like y' all think it does.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Freeze]

Okay, that's one again. Back to what I said. This is a great first day out record. I'm. I'm not cool with the name. I've explained that.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's what they. I think. I don't know if it's so much your take, but just to be clear.

[Freeze]

The comments that I've been seeing directed.

[Joe Budden]

The part that's really bothersome is the.

[Ish]

Whole, hey, it should be your first day out.

[Freeze]

I'm not saying you're the first day. I didn't say that again. I know exactly what I said. The record should drop sooner to your release. I ain't up telling camera sooner to your release. You've been out for a minute and now you put out a first day out. It's been. Yes, it's a month later. This is not a First day out song.

[Ish]

And we had a release list. Yo, and outside of. Outside of T Grizzly.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Who first day out did you put like in that?

[Freeze]

Gucci is the pinnacle of first day outs. You ain't gotta mention T Grizzly yet. Okay. Gucci's a one.

[Joe Budden]

You would know better than me.

[Flip]

It's a classic.

[Ish]

I take your word.

[Freeze]

It started First Day outs.

[Flip]

It's a classic song.

[Parks]

You got it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's cool.

[Freeze]

Nah, nah.

[Ish]

Y' all wanna look for the awkward moments? Let's talk.

[Joe Budden]

Trees.

[Ish]

Y' all wanna talk? We gonna talk.

[Freeze]

God damn it.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Ish]

So Gucci.

[Parks]

Gucci again.

[Freeze]

T. Grizzly. Hey, y' all might get mad at it. JT's first day out is up there.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. They can't get mad at that.

[Freeze]

I'm just saying. So when you go and say this is the best first day out. I just gave you three. That's not better than.

[Joe Budden]

JT's is good but poor.

[Freeze]

I'm not saying it's bad.

[Ish]

They go in that best. If you. If you can't get to four, then.

[Joe Budden]

It'S still the best one.

[Ish]

Is it five or six album Then that's.

[Freeze]

This is again. I love the song. Y' all act like he brought that.

[Ish]

I almost robbed the this weekend Conway album.

[Freeze]

Made me want to do that.

[Ish]

No, sir. He brought that feeling, man. I almost went in one of them Gettys right there on Tunnel. Almost stole something out of Super Walmart. Almost. He wasn't on Tunnel or Walmart and.

[Parks]

He wasn't in Walmart.

[Ish]

Well, now that's the one. I wasn't it. Hey, hey. AMC is. I'm Freestyling like a mother. Was it on Walmart? No. And I wasn't on. I would be on Tunley before I was.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, you don't remember on Paris Hilton and them show it. It was a clip. It was real, though.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no, I don't remember on Paris Hilton show.

[Flip]

Paris Hilton and L. Richie.

[Joe Budden]

Nicole Richie.

[Mark]

Nicole Richie.

[Flip]

They didn't know what Walmart is. They was like, what the is that? They sell walls in there. When the last time you've been in a Walmart?

[Ish]

Yo, I don't really go to Walmart.

[Flip]

Me neither.

[Ian]

Me either.

[Ish]

Honestly, when I went to. When I went to. And this is for a few reasons.

[Joe Budden]

But my top two is when I went to.

[Ish]

Where did I Interview homeboy Wyoming. Did I go to Wyoming and interview the guy that climbed all of the mountains? And Wyoming is where the super, the billionaire people go. And that's they hood and that's that. It's eight houses and along my ride.

[Joe Budden]

You know it was a tourist attraction. Hey, that's the Walmart property. The Walmart family has that one.

[Ish]

It had a sign.

[Joe Budden]

It's almost like. It's almost like. What do you call when the city recognizes this as a landmark?

[Freeze]

Historical landmark.

[Ish]

There's a sign that says Bill Walmart Walton, whoever it is. But there was a sign and I said, oh really? This lot right here.

[Mark]

Here?

[Ish]

And they said, no, the lot we've.

[Joe Budden]

Been driving by for the past 10 minutes. Look behind this whole everything as far.

[Ish]

As you can't see anymore.

[Ian]

Still pass.

[Ish]

Keep going, go past day. This is theirs. They won't even build. They won't.

[Flip]

Why?

[Ian]

Cuz, why?

[Flip]

Yeah, cuz.

[Ish]

So once I heard that I was like, you know what? I will get my waffles from somewhere else. 1 and 2. Hate to say it, but I'm from hip hop. When they caught Benny in Houston, I.

[Ian]

Was like, see, shouldn't have been at that Walmart.

[Ish]

We be on them roads and we be needing new drawers and new T shirts or something quick on tour. We run in where they know. Guess what? They know we running in there for that they laying up on us. I'm not losing my life at Walmart cuz I need clean drawers. That's not going to happen.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry.

[Ish]

Call it elitist, call it what you want.

[Freeze]

That's another reason why I'm not buying.

[Ish]

No drawers for Walmart.

[Ian]

Come on. Hands are doing in the pinch.

[Ish]

Man, knock it off.

[Parks]

Sorry y' all go to Walmart.

[Ish]

Sorry y'.

[Mark]

All.

[Parks]

You whispered to me for the pause. Yes.

[Flip]

Yo, rat bat.

[Parks]

You said for the pot. I just want to make sure is.

[Ish]

They know you down. I don't know why you keeping the.

[Flip]

Secret I go to Walmart.

[Ish]

Covered up two questions.

[Freeze]

When the last time you've been to Walmart and what Walmart was it and.

[Joe Budden]

What'D you buy that and what you get?

[Flip]

When I was visiting my mother in Virginia.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, so that's. That's never.

[Ish]

That's once in the last seven years. Well, you don't go down there, so his mom won't even let him go.

[Joe Budden]

Down there no more.

[Ish]

You gotta see his mom in private. It ain't no family group chat face time.

[Parks]

Hey, mom.

[Joe Budden]

Your mom meet me over here at.

[Mark]

The Crackle Barrel with the you buy.

[Flip]

See, Wal is different.

[Freeze]

Walmart.

[Parks]

What did you buy?

[Freeze]

I'm about to explain to you.

[Flip]

Walmart in the south, bro. Is the store like you close from TVs to black Walmart bubble gum.

[Freeze]

Hey hey, the Walmart up here do the same thing.

[Mark]

Walmart.

[Freeze]

Yeah, they got the same.

[Mark]

You would know that if you was a Walmart up here.

[Parks]

What you bought.

[Mark]

You don't remember?

[Flip]

I don't remember.

[Freeze]

Whatever money went down there bought a gun.

[Mark]

Okay, so you don't go to Walmart. But if you mom can send you.

[Ish]

The water and when. When the baby was. When the. When the baby was in there and had to back out on. On somebody he was. And mad tick tock videos of the Walmart security guard getting Shaft up. Hey, you can't walk through this.

[Freeze]

Watch this move.

[Ish]

I'm not.

[Freeze]

I'm cool.

[Joe Budden]

I don't.

[Ish]

I'll buy my Stouffers from somewhere. Somewhere else. That's all. What else? What else?

[Parks]

Big news and music.

[Mark]

Mariah Carey. Oh, just went diamond for the third time.

[Joe Budden]

Why is that big news?

[Flip]

I don't know.

[Ish]

Third time they getting hip to how you do big news.

[Parks]

Which album was it?

[Mark]

Merry Christmas.

[Flip]

I thought it was diamond already.

[Mark]

Nah, Merry Christmas just went diamond two days ago.

[Ian]

Oh the album. The song has been diamond.

[Ish]

The song has been way past diamond.

[Mark]

But the album now which had three singles.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Mark]

We just only remember the all I want for Christmas is you because that's the only one that mattered.

[Parks]

Mattered.

[Ish]

Not that it matters but I'm not hearing that song the way I'm used.

[Joe Budden]

To hearing it this year. Me neither.

[Mark]

They played in Walmart.

[Ian]

I've been new.

[Ish]

Yeah, probably I heard it at the.

[Ian]

The rich people mall I went to.

[Parks]

Over they play that.

[Mark]

Hold on.

[Ish]

Rich people more huh?

[Flip]

You might be auditioning for Top Gun 3.

[Ian]

Yo, I went to the. I had to buy a housewarming gift so you know. I mean they played it there though.

[Joe Budden]

Where'd you you go to for a house?

[Ian]

What is it called? Oh, Williams and Sonoma.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I wasn't trying to say it first. William and Sonoma.

[Ish]

That's the fancy kitchen that is nice.

[Mark]

You must care about.

[Ian]

I could have stayed in that Parks.

[Joe Budden]

Is a good gift giver.

[Ian]

Well that was r too.

[Ish]

Well, you and your lovely wife.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah, she's a great gift giver but William Sonoma. You with somebody for real?

[Ian]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

William and Sonoma. I don't go in there no more neither because it let me know. Know everything in my kitchen is wrong. Yeah.

[Parks]

Fact they.

[Ish]

They've updated every bro.

[Ian]

I was tight looking this spatula.

[Ish]

Hold up everything. Everything in my kitchen is wrong poor.

[Parks]

It is what I've been doing.

[Ian]

Everything in my kitchen is poor.

[Parks]

I be writing it down.

[Ish]

If you've been to William in Sonoma, just walked around in there, then my.

[Flip]

Is a. I don't think it's in.

[Freeze]

I think it's just William Sonoma.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever. Walk I'm ghetto.

[Freeze]

It's cool.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't right.

[Mark]

Williams Sonoma.

[Ish]

Why.

[Freeze]

Why did we do that? Why do we do that?

[Ish]

Many years clear. Clearly William Sonoma. I went in there. They had every fly, everything. Knife set, air fryer, spatul.

[Ian]

I got lost in the cutting board section.

[Ish]

They got the. The that I don't even know what it do. Blenders. The that mix different whisks.

[Parks]

This lit.

[Ish]

You'll go in there and spend.

[Joe Budden]

That's fine.

[Mark]

Quick just with knives.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian]

Oh, quick.

[Ish]

I love.

[Joe Budden]

That's the first thing I said. I need knives.

[Ish]

All I my knives. Adult ghetto as I got some terrible. I get on Instagram and tik tok all these sharpening their knives with the thing. I've been sharpening late.

[Mark]

Really?

[Ian]

It's. Yeah, you got to sharpen them.

[Flip]

I went to.

[Joe Budden]

Were you a chef?

[Freeze]

Remember I went to the whatchamal.

[Flip]

Y' all was teasing me when I the laser.

[Joe Budden]

We always tease you.

[Flip]

No, the. Where you make the dinner. You go to the class and they.

[Mark]

Make the culinary class.

[Flip]

The culinary.

[Parks]

You took culinary class?

[Flip]

No, me and my girl went date culinary.

[Joe Budden]

I love the man that you are outside of here in my relationship.

[Ish]

Outside of this.

[Parks]

Let us big you up, you ass.

[Ish]

I really like who you are in your secret life. Yeah, we love you going out doing.

[Flip]

The family.

[Parks]

Whatever that.

[Ish]

Hiding the plays, cutting the trees and stuff.

[Freeze]

Doing coat draws.

[Ian]

He definitely wears ascot around the house.

[Ish]

He come over here to dumb dad.

[Flip]

I ain't give me no coke.

[Parks]

Yeah. He treat us like.

[Flip]

Yo, dog, they had knives in that. That was 500 for.

[Freeze]

For one knife. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can have that.

[Flip]

I was like, man, this better get.

[Parks]

Them off my ass.

[Joe Budden]

Where do they keep the expensive knives?

[Flip]

Not at William Sonoma. Well, I don't think William got a knife in that for $500.

[Ian]

No, I think they do for one.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You can spend some yo dog Dog.

[Parks]

Knives or them shits.

[Ian]

Expensive ice snacks are expensive.

[Joe Budden]

Bougie is. And I only know this because I walked. Where was I? Oh, in the bougie mall.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But we know that more. What the fuck?

[Ish]

The Hackensack.

[Joe Budden]

The Hackensack, Riverside Square. Riverside. I go in there and I'm in.

[Ish]

A store like for clothes.

[Joe Budden]

But Bloomingdale. So Bloomingdale.

[Ish]

But they got this fancy knives in the glass.

[Joe Budden]

They do. So I walk over there just to see em.

[Ish]

They won't even give you the price.

[Joe Budden]

Of some of those.

[Ish]

The only one that they'll tell you is the one that cost 500. But they have it in tears.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So this is 500.

[Ian]

It's a kill bill.

[Ish]

And then as you go up it's hey, find somebody. Yeah, you go up. Associate, please. The associate. Get a manager.

[Flip]

Them knives was high as. I'm like, what? You know my girl had to get some out of there.

[Ian]

Don't put that in the dishwasher.

[Flip]

You better go get a lemon squeezer.

[Joe Budden]

The last thing I'm getting my girl for the kitchen is a sharp knife set.

[Ish]

I've been standing before.

[Joe Budden]

That ain't.

[Ish]

That ain't happening.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that knife need to bounce off me if she throw it.

[Ish]

I thought I was fly, you know.

[Flip]

Because I got like.

[Ish]

Anyway, I thought my was cool.

[Flip]

I had the J A Hinkle set. Yeah, no, it's levels. It's a. It's a cla. And then it's a S class. And then it's a Maybach.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Flip]

Of knives for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I thought my little was cool.

[Ish]

I think.

[Mark]

I think 626 if you take my.

[Flip]

My set probably was like 500 these. One knife was 500 in that.

[Ish]

I was like, don't you hate when.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody come burst your bubble and you learn the truth?

[Ish]

Like leave me in my. I'm killing this man. Let me stay delusional.

[Freeze]

I'm thinking I'm doing something.

[Flip]

You think you cool?

[Ish]

I think that's the beauty of life, that ignorance. Like I don't need to know what's available at every level above me.

[Flip]

Yeah. 5,000.

[Ish]

I need to find the one I'm cool at. See, I'm cool here, but I would.

[Parks]

Hope so you cool with father.

[Ian]

The fuck is a $10,000 so sheet?

[Flip]

The $10,000 sheet has to have a mouth in it.

[Ish]

I'm with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Freeze]

Crazy.

[Mark]

Hey.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Parks]

You woke up this morning. It does it when I'm sleeping. It got me in the sleep.

[Ish]

You going to with them little.

[Joe Budden]

One of them little AI dolls?

[Ish]

Oh, he cuz they going to put one of them mouths on those sheets. Like they put phone chargers on couches.

[Flip]

It's coming.

[Ish]

You think all this AI is happening for them to not make sheets where the robots Suck your dick.

[Joe Budden]

You going.

[Flip]

You'll buy the couch with the charger on it.

[Ish]

All right. The lights on the white stitch got a cup holders and a cup holder.

[Ian]

God has a cup holders.

[Ish]

But the other sheet set ain't the worst idea. Call it something like arguing with bay set. Y' all in the bed. You just wake up to noise. I'm gonna put a loud motor in it, too. She like, what the Are you getting Head, right? Yes.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Ish]

I asked you last night.

[Freeze]

I am.

[Ish]

Yeah, I am. You said you was mad about something. She over there moaning. This is disgusting. Ain't no disgusting. Cause in. She said plus. In sheet set plus. You do the voice God mode. Now you busting ass. Oh, my God, Daddy. And she said plus, plus, it'll be your white voice.

[Mark]

Sheets.

[Ish]

Who would want that?

[Freeze]

$10,000 sheets.

[Flip]

Go get your little 15.

[Parks]

You got $10,000 sheets is. Or 5,000. Who what?

[Flip]

What are you crazy?

[Joe Budden]

He still sleep in a tank top? The sheets ain't that important to him.

[Mark]

You got 50 coats.

[Ish]

They not on his. It's not on your skin, I'm saying.

[Flip]

Yo, stop talking to me like that.

[Parks]

Yo, what's the most you pay?

[Ish]

Seriously?

[Flip]

I just want like 800. 700.

[Freeze]

All right, that was peace.

[Joe Budden]

I can't stop talking to you like that. Because that unlocks your great potter abilities.

[Flip]

No, it don't.

[Parks]

It's cool.

[Ish]

That's cool. When I don't do that, it's just sleepy, man. You gotta insult your ego. I got a Friday.

[Joe Budden]

What he. What he.

[Ish]

If you with his ego, laugh. Laugh at him about something.

[Mark]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Somebody laugh at him.

[Ish]

He's gonna be that.

[Parks]

Once you put your hand here and go like this.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

Once you yourself up.

[Ish]

That's hilarious. Yo, you're a fool. What do you want to talk about bdos list?

[Flip]

Sure.

[Mark]

Oh, yes.

[Joe Budden]

Let's talk about B Dot's list.

[Ish]

B Dot, right around this time, shout.

[Joe Budden]

Out to B Dot. Friend of the show turn up. He did it again. He's got a list.

[Ian]

You want 10 to 1 or 1 to 10?

[Joe Budden]

10 to 1. Always.

[Ish]

Lloyd Banks, right?

[Ian]

Banks. Best rappers of 2020 based on skill, skill, song slash features and presence. Lloyd banks is number 10. Not mad at that pig. Should be on this list. Number nine, ransom. Our guy shout to ransom. Nine seems a little bit low.

[Freeze]

Yeah, he's low.

[Ian]

Eight Chains also feels a little bit low to me personally. But y' all know how much I love that. That chains album. Number seven, Larry June, who did kill it. I don't know if he's making my top 10. Respectfully, I love Larry June.

[Joe Budden]

I disagree with this whole front four.

[Mark]

Same.

[Freeze]

Keep going.

[Ian]

Six. Baldy James, Boldy James put out 700 albums this year. I'm not mad at him being on this list somewhere. Wale number five. Top five. Not too bad. Number four, Jid Jid number three. Joey Badass. Number two, Nas number one. Clips.

[Freeze]

They put them together.

[Flip]

Put together.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Freddie Gibbs should be on this list. Chance the rapper should be on this list.

[Freeze]

Should absolutely be on this list.

[Ian]

And high on this list at that.

[Joe Budden]

Chance the rapper out wrapped the majority of that list.

[Flip]

He definitely did correct. He definitely.

[Ish]

With ease, yo.

[Flip]

Easily.

[Freeze]

What's the criteria again?

[Ian]

Skills, songs and features and presence.

[Freeze]

Cardi B should be on that list.

[Joe Budden]

Freeze. Taking us out of here. Yeah.

[Freeze]

Cardi B should absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Might be right.

[Freeze]

Cardi B should absolutely be right list.

[Flip]

He's right.

[Joe Budden]

I'm that man.

[Ian]

I'm not all the way back.

[Flip]

Because if presence is one of the criteria, a lot of those people don't have a huge presence.

[Ian]

That's valid.

[Flip]

You understand what I'm saying? Like if you are. If you're not a hip hop guy such as yourself.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't know who one of them dudes.

[Mark]

Like a lot of people didn't hear Bodie James.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's true.

[Joe Budden]

That's true.

[Freeze]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

For me, Cardi B out wrapped a lot of too.

[Freeze]

A lot of outrapped him a whole lot.

[Joe Budden]

She did for sure.

[Freeze]

Like she. I going keep like he's miss. This is like this should be the male rapper list. No, cuz Glorilla should be on that. L. Like there's names that had a year with features. That's why I'm just saying we already agreed. But even in some of them names listed shouldn't be there in place for some of these female rappers.

[Ian]

I want pass from de list. If it's my list, I'm putting pass on there for him to hold down that whole album.

[Mark]

Damn.

[Ian]

Nearby himself. Himself.

[Joe Budden]

And that was amazing rapping. That was.

[Ish]

That was incredible rapping.

[Freeze]

I really enjoyed that.

[Ish]

I got a problem with two chains and Larry June smoke this year.

[Freeze]

No, no.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Ian]

The Alchemist record is amazing. And the soundtrack was.

[Flip]

And in the beginning of the year, Larry June was doing well. In the beginning of the year. He was.

[Joe Budden]

He was.

[Freeze]

They dropped the album.

[Ish]

I'm picking one of them.

[Flip]

Oh yeah.

[Ian]

I'm with you.

[Flip]

Which from.

[Ian]

I would might have put a slight flash, but I would have.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

If you put clips up there.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Yeah, you could. You could have put them on one. One tier.

[Ish]

One.

[Mark]

One should not be number two.

[Ian]

I think he should be.

[Freeze]

No, no, no.

[Mark]

I was surprised. He's that high. I would probably have it like four.

[Joe Budden]

What.

[Flip]

What was the last album that came out in 25?

[Ian]

What you mean?

[Flip]

I thought his albums came out in 24.

[Ian]

Nas just put out albums last week. I mean, he had features.

[Mark]

Oh, he had a bunch of features, though, this year.

[Ian]

Yeah, the features.

[Ish]

Yeah, his feature run has to put him.

[Mark]

The feature run is what puts him so high.

[Ish]

Smoke that M Deep album. He smoked, the De La Soul album.

[Ian]

If you wanted to put him at three, I wouldn't be.

[Mark]

Yeah, a little lower, I think.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah. You know, hey, don't put him in two. But he gotta go in the top five.

[Mark]

Like four for me.

[Ish]

I can't believe Chance is not on Chance.

[Ian]

Absolutely should be.

[Mark]

Everybody disrespectful should be on this list. The album voting, the, the rankings, all that. Agree.

[Flip]

He went crazy, bro.

[Mark]

Yeah, agree.

[Ish]

Lloyd Banks, that's my main man.

[Ian]

Love Banks.

[Ish]

He put out a dope project, a.

[Mark]

Really good album, Shout out the Blue.

[Ish]

Yes. Great project that maybe would put him. If I'm naming it Honorable mention at 11.

[Ian]

Honorable mention. Respectfully.

[Mark]

Right.

[Ish]

He would be high. I don't, I can't say with conviction. Top 10 high. But I wasn't really paying too much.

[Joe Budden]

Attention to the rankings.

[Ish]

I was paying attention to the names. Did you get the names right? Cuz, you need to do a list. You need some outrage.

[Flip]

Yo, dog, when did Kendrick album drop?

[Freeze]

That was no, last year, gnx.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that was last year.

[Flip]

I thought it was right before the Super Bowl.

[Freeze]

All right, and another one. I, I, I might get laughed out the room. And I understand it. Y' all all might not be familiar. G. Herbo should be on this list. That's another name who had a great year, great album feature. Features have been everywhere.

[Flip]

Like, there's names.

[Freeze]

This seems like I got to put.

[Joe Budden]

You know, the lyrical.

[Flip]

Lyrical.

[Joe Budden]

You know what this is? Freeze.

[Freeze]

I'm just saying, if we talking rappers, we talking rappers. We talking rappers, we talking rappers.

[Parks]

What is it? What is B Dot trying to do?

[Ish]

It's a list.

[Joe Budden]

So we know the objective of list. We need something on there that's controversial. Got it. We need something for to spike engagement. Like we get the business behind List.

[Ish]

Look, we don't have to act like we also.

[Joe Budden]

But I'm not mad at your G Hero ticket either.

[Flip]

Yeah, me either.

[Ian]

I'm, I also, if it's me I'm putting a slash with the Joey Badass and putting Ray Vaughn right in there too, because he smoked in that battle as well and put out a really fucking dope album.

[Mark]

I would have had west side Gun over Lloyd Banks.

[Ian]

Westside Gun put out a bunch of dope shit this year.

[Mark]

That's what I'm saying.

[Flip]

That's a good point.

[Mark]

Westside Gun would have made my list. And no disrespect to Banks again, Banks would be in my top 15. I don't know if he make top 10, but Westside put out a lot of good shit.

[Ian]

He did.

[Parks]

He did.

[Joe Budden]

Dawg. I know I. I run a sweat. Sweat shop over here with the pardon, but I'd love to see your list at the end of the year.

[Freeze]

I'm putting. I'm putting my list out.

[Ish]

Yeah, we want to promote it.

[Parks]

I'm putting you to put some behind it. I want to see it.

[Freeze]

Did you know what that means? I'm putting it out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I want to see the Freeze.

[Freeze]

I'm putting my list out. I didn't do a list last year. Every year beforehand.

[Parks]

So the max, B. You did like we want you and.

[Joe Budden]

You could take it a step further Free. You could do the best rappers and then you could do alv.

[Ish]

Freeze says who's coming Cold. Stop it. Stop playing with my boy. Stop playing with my boy.

[Parks]

Don't go for PC Pretty good. You gave it to it could be.

[Ish]

Cold like cold as a.

[Flip]

Bought to you by Coors Light.

[Mark]

Awesome.

[Parks]

I can get you the name Freeze. Remember I'm coming for my.

[Joe Budden]

You such a crackhead.

[Flip]

That's your ip.

[Parks]

I love this. Hey, you know what? The fact that he. He's the only one that you library still. He's the only one that leaned into it. I love Free. That should make me feel good.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know who's representing you in your business now, but. But if there was one call that would make Ian's day is if you called him and said, I need you to call Chorus Light for me.

[Ish]

What? Yo, that's the type of boy. If you go in with some of that, he's at it. He's walking to Colorado or wherever the. No, Ian will go into a brewery. He'll make a sample. Coors Light with your face. That nigga's crazy.

[Freeze]

Anyway, he did some other shit. I was like, damn. All right, Yeah, I fucks with him.

[Ish]

B. Dot, we love you. I get it. Not mad at it. You always have my support, but we.

[Joe Budden]

On to you, buddy.

[Freeze]

And nah, nah, I can't even just say we always to you. Honestly. Because I'm going to tell you why expose them? You mentioned. No, no, no. You mentioned the. The Max B that I put together.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Freeze]

I'm getting death threats over this.

[Parks]

Don't matter. You Freeze.

[Freeze]

And I understand now how you just can't please everybody with a list.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, Freeze is Shams, yo.

[Ish]

What Shams did the homeboy to his mentor. What was my man name? He sent that off to retirement to be with his family. Ain't no more breaking new B Dot is wo the old grizzly vet who's. Who's a little slow with the news and the list.

[Mark]

Freeze.

[Freeze]

No, no, no. I with.

[Ish]

Let's go Shams. But.

[Freeze]

But yeah, I get it.

[Ish]

Like be mad like you ain't say.

[Freeze]

This like I understand, but don't put.

[Parks]

Too much west coast on like Master P. Now I know we know what they did.

[Freeze]

Dropped the album last month.

[Ish]

Who p.

[Joe Budden]

I call c light. I will call cor.

[Ish]

Can that out to be.

[Joe Budden]

Can that the Rockies. I know I gave you the CO I thought he would show up.

[Freeze]

Yeah, right.

[Mark]

Right after.

[Ian]

First they call Colt 45 is oh, yo, Parks.

[Parks]

Wow.

[Ish]

And that's why you can't co sign.

[Joe Budden]

Your friends getting a job. See, they going to go in there and change now. That the company calling you?

[Ish]

Yo, you said this was Old Milwaukee.

[Joe Budden]

Maybe I know, man.

[Parks]

Hold on, hold on.

[Ish]

Y'. All. Do you think that not a drinker.

[Ian]

You know, some cheap beer.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Flip]

I got family.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Ish]

His family.

[Parks]

We know how you talk when you speak to your family in laws. How you talk to them.

[Ian]

Like house.

[Mark]

You don't talk like this.

[Joe Budden]

You don't say.

[Flip]

You don't say monkey.

[Parks]

And like that you like.

[Ish]

Hello.

[Freeze]

I hope you don't.

[Parks]

Hello, Antoine.

[Flip]

When you talk to your wife family, you talk about your monkey.

[Parks]

No, but I still talk like flip.

[Flip]

I talk like I don't even know.

[Ish]

Well, the thing. The thing about.

[Parks]

My wife made me be up here. They be at my crib.

[Mark]

You have wife.

[Parks]

You got W. That's good. Wife, family.

[Ish]

Oh, be careful. I'm not married.

[Joe Budden]

I'm here to learn from you. Mar and. And Parks. Brother, I have nothing to say in this topic.

[Parks]

So what you about to say?

[Joe Budden]

Nothing.

[Parks]

Make sure don't bring it back up.

[Joe Budden]

When you married, I. You do talk to the family, I guess that's. I have no experience. I wouldn't know.

[Parks]

Do you talk to the family?

[Flip]

Huh?

[Joe Budden]

You talk.

[Ian]

He's not married.

[Joe Budden]

This is a married talk. Got it?

[Parks]

Okay, cool.

[Ish]

And I do.

[Mark]

Right. Cool.

[Ish]

But this is for the.

[Parks]

Like I said, n. I talk regular to my family. You know, they come over there, cook for me and like that.

[Flip]

I don't know how to talk another way, my brother.

[Parks]

I know you get a lot of.

[Mark]

You do got. I'm not saying you do it with your family, but you got a white voice. I can always tell you talking to a white person when you.

[Joe Budden]

When you're.

[Parks]

You can tell who you on the.

[Mark]

Phone with when he walk upstairs. Antoine at the seven windows.

[Parks]

Who is this? I would like to put just his.

[Freeze]

Voicemail when you call him.

[Mark]

His white voice.

[Flip]

That's a white voice.

[Mark]

Wait, you've reached.

[Ish]

Wait, you got a voicemail.

[Mark]

Hold on, hold on.

[Parks]

I got a question. Call you right now and press.

[Ish]

Wait, can I call you? Can I listen to. That's funny.

[Flip]

Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Is. Oh, I'm a.

[Flip]

It's not a white voice.

[Parks]

With Joe call.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my. Wasn't working, remember?

[Mark]

It's bad.

[Ian]

Is it working?

[Mark]

There we go.

[Parks]

End it.

[Joe Budden]

End it. Hi.

[Ish]

Reach the cell phone. Advance one.

[Flip]

Unfortunately.

[Mark]

Unfortunately.

[Flip]

Unfortunately. It's white.

[Parks]

Is you talking about what a.

[Ish]

Are you crazy? You outdated dinosaur head ass bitch ass nigga. Change this shit immediately, man. And get a backbone and a spine. Get some human decency. All right, bye. Don't call back.

[Mark]

Bye.

[Joe Budden]

Gotta hang up.

[Freeze]

That's not a white voice.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark]

You think you sound like you on there, like you sound right now?

[Flip]

No, I. I've run a company. I don't want to sound like I'm talking to my.

[Ish]

You don't want to sound like you're talking to any. You don't want to be. You don't want the person calling to be able to tell.

[Flip]

Yo, dog, I don't remember remotely sound white.

[Mark]

Everybody knows when you're on the phone.

[Ish]

With a white person.

[Ian]

I don't think I ever met a white Antoine.

[Ish]

By the way, why are you putting. Wait, what is that Mark?

[Mark]

Hello, this is Antoine. Unfortunately, I'm unable to reach you at the present moment. Please. I know why.

[Parks]

You have ant now too. You don't have to say anto. You say Anthony.

[Mark]

You be say. You be freaking.

[Parks]

Your name.

[Ish]

Yeah, you.

[Parks]

You cold switch.

[Ian]

He don't gentrify his name.

[Ish]

Hello?

[Parks]

Anthony, is that you? Yes.

[Flip]

Antoine is French.

[Ish]

That's what you tell him.

[Mark]

That's what you tell me.

[Parks]

Check me.

[Ish]

Wow. Yo, don't never say that again.

[Parks]

It is.

[Flip]

You say Anthony to sound more white.

[Mark]

Antoine, his name is right enough.

[Freeze]

That's what he's saying. Yo, y' all Is st. You do look.

[Ian]

So you're saying you're French?

[Parks]

I told him he would get his wife a scarf from France.

[Ian]

I told him, yeah, French.

[Joe Budden]

Non tana.

[Ish]

Look at French. Antenna. I could do this for days. And there's that thing that you do with your voice when you're not talking.

[Joe Budden]

Like when you was around Cheyenne Bryant.

[Ish]

Where you just talk through your facial expressions and your teeth and your cheekbones smile too. You smile and your smiles.

[Parks]

Hello. Hello, Cheyenne. Of course, Cheyenne.

[Flip]

That's what I did. You was there. That's what I was doing.

[Parks]

Nigga, you ain't say. Don't let me. Let me start it. I got a lot of to say about that. You got mad at me, so I.

[Ish]

Didn'T say I got a lot.

[Parks]

I went back to research the you were saying on the pod and what you said up there is two different. You code switch.

[Ish]

So you code switches.

[Mark]

Everybody code switches.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

All right.

[Freeze]

Some more than others do it, though.

[Ish]

Some more than others. We all do this. Let's get a code switch list in the.

[Joe Budden]

In the.

[Ish]

In the room real quick. This should be a matter of five seconds.

[Freeze]

Oh, well, who do it the most versus least?

[Ish]

Most to least.

[Freeze]

Mark one.

[Flip]

The.

[Parks]

The lease is Flip. I'm on all the way.

[Mark]

I don't. Yeah, you might be the least.

[Parks]

I got a lot of code. I got access to it.

[Flip]

I don't think flip is last.

[Ian]

Oh, Flip is left for the last.

[Freeze]

I disagree. You think he cold Switch, buddy. Where you got him at?

[Ish]

Just give me.

[Parks]

Give me the list. Switch. That's got insult to me. I slap you, fire me right now.

[Joe Budden]

If Mark is one. Oh, that's the. I'll never fire you.

[Ian]

You crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, it's us.

[Mark]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

But what I said earlier.

[Ish]

But I mean, it's been a talk.

[Mark]

You said that every time you talked about it.

[Parks]

Shut up.

[Mark]

Every time you.

[Parks]

I ain't full of his tricks anymore. You tricked me into quitting, Feeding me.

[Ish]

I would try to pay you to quit.

[Joe Budden]

I would give you like a severance package too.

[Ian]

I would.

[Parks]

I can't do it like that. You got to give me a little more respect. I can't do it like that. I don't think nobody would look at me the same you got.

[Ish]

Somebody would know the.

[Parks]

That I love.

[Ish]

Nobody would know the people. The people that fired me and paid me. You didn't run around saying, hey, John paid me to get fired.

[Parks]

No, what I'm saying is that when it come and we're not gonna make. We're not gonna Hyper focus on flip. All I'm saying.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Cause I'm getting back to my jokes on you.

[Parks]

All I'm saying is that if you do let me go. Cause renewal may be coming up. If you do let me go. You gotta do it better than that. You gotta sit me down, talk to me. You can't play around none of that little funny shit. No extra hype and shit. And also, if I do take a break, whoever sit here, don't extra hype them up to try to erase me. Cause I'mma violate you.

[Ish]

I don't wanna do it.

[Parks]

Before I let you go.

[Ish]

Before I let you go. Yeah.

[Ian]

Y' all are stupid.

[Ish]

I had a good Joe. Oh, yeah. The list. See, it never takes five seconds.

[Flip]

You first.

[Ian]

It never does.

[Ish]

I'm not mad at Mark being number one.

[Parks]

Cold switch.

[Joe Budden]

Don't.

[Ish]

But why you tell me to go first?

[Flip]

I told you to go first.

[Ish]

Yes. Who going first?

[Joe Budden]

Go first.

[Parks]

Joe, lead the way. Mark, Number one for you.

[Joe Budden]

Mark is number one for you.

[Mark]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, for sure. Clear. Because when I get to Mark, it ain't just a professional thing. Mark will code switch socially. Oh, so he has to be number one for me.

[Parks]

Yeah. Nick is my man. He do. He do that.

[Joe Budden]

You with all this? I run a business. To me has. You have to be number two and.

[Ish]

A Close, close and a.

[Mark]

That voicemail closed the gap.

[Parks]

Oh, you wanted to have. He said, nigga, this.

[Joe Budden]

You just asking me my opinion and my belief. And again, outside of the professional coach, which talk we having, I don't think it's possible for Ish to acquire the network he has and speak to the amount of people he not only speaks to, but keeps in touch with without coach, which.

[Freeze]

That's a good point.

[Mark]

Good point.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like that I do. You ask my opinion, I'm giving it to you.

[Mark]

No.

[Ish]

3 me.

[Joe Budden]

Ice will not let us clean him up and fix him up.

[Ish]

I keep trying to teach him new.

[Joe Budden]

Ways to code switch, but he's just.

[Ish]

A filthy heathen, so I can't put him there.

[Joe Budden]

I do think that Parks is unapologetically himself. He's the fucking.

[Freeze]

I don't think Parks do it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I don't. I'm not gonna say that Parks could do it, but it's just that.

[Ish]

It's just that. Not as much as I would expect.

[Freeze]

So you got yourself three.

[Ish]

I probably would have to be three by three default.

[Ian]

I think you got to sort it by. Basically, who deals with the most people in professional situation. Different types of professional situations.

[Joe Budden]

I try my Best not to. But by default, I think I am.

[Ish]

If, if, If Flip, Ice, and Parks are, are the names left.

[Joe Budden]

I'm three. Yeah, yeah.

[Mark]

So now if we add Imani and Mona to that list. Oh, I feel like Mona might. Mona and Flip might be neck and neck at the bottom, but I think Mona might switch more. What do y' all think?

[Freeze]

No, no.

[Parks]

You think I co.

[Joe Budden]

I'm with you.

[Freeze]

I got you and Mark on me.

[Joe Budden]

I'm, I'm. I'm with Mark. Mona, just by sheer faces she's in front of and what she might say while someone is in front of her. Yeah, yeah, I can see it. It's like campaigning. Mona is a comedian. She knows how to campaign.

[Parks]

She does a great job at it.

[Mark]

When you see.

[Joe Budden]

Do your list. Imani just be getting pushed. See, I don't know.

[Mark]

Kind of cool.

[Joe Budden]

Money just be running game.

[Mark]

That a.

[Ish]

That don't really count to me.

[Flip]

I think Joe's first. I think joe is first.

[Ish]

Like.

[Flip]

Y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Flip]

Y' all confusing code switching with modification of your voice. Joe got an inflection in his voice where you could tell he's talking to somebody of a different level of priority or importance.

[Ian]

I don't think there's anything wrong with.

[Flip]

He start throwing that buddy around. It's not, it's, It's. It's some caucasoid on the phone when he start throwing that buddy around.

[Ish]

Trust you. Hey there, buddy.

[Flip]

Yo, Jo. He got. Yo, dog. I don't.

[Ish]

Is buddy a code switch? Yes, yes, absolutely.

[Flip]

You ain't call nobody buddy in Jersey City.

[Ish]

I called you buddy.

[Mark]

I mean, out of habit.

[Ish]

Said buddy to Al. But I get it. It's different. Yo, dog.

[Flip]

So I, I, I, I think, I don't think. I don't think Mark's second. I would say I'm second. Probably then Mark and then the rest of y' all are just filling. But you, you right after Mark.

[Freeze]

How?

[Flip]

Because I've seen you cut it off.

[Ish]

Off.

[Flip]

I've seen you cut it off a lot.

[Parks]

Switching.

[Flip]

Yes, it is. That's what we talk about.

[Ian]

It can be part of it.

[Flip]

You don't have to modify your. Your voice to be code switching. I've seen you give real calm, docile, low talking.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Flip]

When the gangsters come, you do all of that.

[Parks]

No, not when they come around.

[Flip]

Yo, let Jim Jones step in the room.

[Freeze]

Quiet.

[Ish]

Hey, Jimmy.

[Mark]

Hey.

[Freeze]

Hey, my.

[Flip]

Yo, big brother.

[Joe Budden]

Bro.

[Ish]

Big bro. We all co. Sw.

[Parks]

I never called Jim Jones my big bro. Watch your mouth. And those are the only. I'll probably be code switching for you.

[Ian]

Better co.

[Mark]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, when want to get on that payment plan?

[Ish]

Well, can I, can I. Can I speak to my payment officer? Is it all right if I pay this much next month?

[Flip]

Take your time. Take your time. Yeah, I've been on hold four hours. All right.

[Ish]

Take your time, audience. This is why I don't ask fast.

[Joe Budden]

Questions up here, by the way.

[Parks]

One quick.

[Joe Budden]

But that was fun.

[Ish]

Fast questions.

[Joe Budden]

Be fun. We just drag them.

[Ish]

What else do we need in hip hop? We still haven't touched any of the more serious.

[Mark]

I got the Trey Songz question. What happened? I just heard he got arrested for punching somebody, but I didn't get the backstory.

[Joe Budden]

He's such a shady bitch.

[Ish]

They didn't make that face. That's what doing it.

[Mark]

You know, just ask.

[Parks]

Tell us.

[Ish]

And is that code twitching?

[Flip]

What?

[Parks]

The face that the. That he do.

[Ish]

The. The face, the voice, the tone he puts on when he asks a question.

[Joe Budden]

But we've worked with him long enough.

[Ish]

To know we know it's.

[Flip]

Is.

[Ish]

Is that code switching?

[Joe Budden]

Not really.

[Ian]

I don't think it's cold switching.

[Joe Budden]

Not really.

[Mark]

Bad person.

[Ish]

It's shady being a piece of.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. Got piece of.

[Ish]

I saw the same video you saw.

[Joe Budden]

Assuming that you saw the video. Cops came, came in a club or a nightclub. I don't know where they were, but the cops came in, they arrested him. Him and all his people were like, what is this about? Why are you doing this? What did he do? They said, hey, you assaulted the owner. He said, I want to pay. I want to pay to get out of this. Y' all said, I could pay. They said, that was 10 minutes ago. That opportunity no longer exists. They walked him out. It was storming rain. He didn't sound like himself. He didn't sound like it was New York. A voice I was familiar with. Yeah, yeah, that was New York.

[Mark]

I only read the. The headline, but his people brought the.

[Joe Budden]

Owner out, said, look, the owner doesn't want to press charges. The cops was like, you don't get to say that. Yeah, to us. We spoke to him privately and bye bye. Yeah.

[Freeze]

What? I. I. I'm alleged. Well, I can't say what.

[Flip]

I traded bookings.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, he was in and out.

[Ish]

You got out.

[Joe Budden]

He didn't spend a night. What. What day of the week it was at work. Oh, I'm not a journalist. Yeah, I'm not a journalist.

[Ish]

If it was snowing when I was watching Saturday.

[Freeze]

No, I said what I took from that was his people talked to my man made it right.

[Mark]

However.

[Freeze]

And yo come out here and tell them we good.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Freeze]

And they was like too late though.

[Mark]

Too late.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

That gotta happen because we spoke to him already. That's what the. The cop made it clear. Like now we talked to him already. So whatever he's saying now we don't care about you.

[Flip]

Cause worst him.

[Ian]

Yeah, that part.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So did that help clear it up for you, Mark? About what happened with Trey songs. What do you think?

[Parks]

Why did he.

[Joe Budden]

What you think about all you lucky.

[Parks]

What haven't played again, Mark. Hey, my fault.

[Mark]

No, I don't step with you.

[Parks]

That's okay. No, no, no.

[Mark]

I got two days to talk.

[Parks]

My Runway is not that long. So you go ahead.

[Freeze]

All right.

[Mark]

Yeah, I. I don't know if you.

[Parks]

See my pockets is though.

[Mark]

If you.

[Ish]

If you say.

[Parks]

If you say. And I'm not paying for a lot of.

[Mark]

That's how you.

[Ish]

That's how you hand to be smart. Y' all got more money than you brainiac man.

[Mark]

Crazy. You should learn from.

[Parks]

And my patreon is crazy too.

[Mark]

Crazy.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Salute Crazy.

[Parks]

I can show you, bro.

[Mark]

Got it. You get money.

[Parks]

Let me see n. You owe me some bread.

[Joe Budden]

I want to see it too. Actually.

[Mark]

Actually, I do want to see it.

[Ish]

I do. I want to see it.

[Flip]

I want to see.

[Ish]

I'm not show switched.

[Mark]

That was a code switch.

[Parks]

I'll show this thing.

[Mark]

Let me see. Let me see.

[Parks]

No, not right now.

[Mark]

Not in front of this.

[Parks]

I got try to show you privately. Watch your mouth.

[Joe Budden]

All right, Patreon Amani. If he shows something crazy on his Patreon. Yeah, I'm with you. I'll duff this out cuz he might have kept some of them from the incident.

[Parks]

Hello? Ch.

[Ish]

Wait, wait.

[Mark]

Got the privacy screen. I can't see nothing.

[Parks]

I'm show you talk. Keep talking.

[Ish]

How do you feel about the. Do you have any thoughts on the Trey song stuff?

[Mark]

I mean, when I hear you say he didn't look like himself or sound like himself, that concerns me. I'm always concerned when I hear something celebrities that part of it. You know, it sounds like a minor charge if they've already. If your theory is correct, then it sounds like it won't be. Oh, that's cute.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Oh, no, that's.

[Mark]

That's cool.

[Parks]

And that's.

[Flip]

That's what's just that cuted your numbers.

[Ish]

See, that's why showing your numbers can get tricky.

[Flip]

Oh yeah.

[Parks]

Let me see yours now. Let me see yours now.

[Mark]

We're doing a broadcast Let me see yours.

[Ish]

Showing the numbers get tricky when some.

[Flip]

That's.

[Ish]

It's a cute little day.

[Mark]

Yeah, it's good. It's good.

[Flip]

That's a cute mom little outfit.

[Mark]

So if your theory is right, then I think when the charge is going to get dropped anyway, he may catch it disorderly and he'll drop it. I don't think there's going to be a big legal matter for him. But when people get to the stage where they could pay and get out and they don't, what I'm worried about is more like the drugs or alcohol or whatever things could be at play. That's the thing I just want to keep an eye on. But I don't think it's going to be a big deal at all. I think it's going to go away real fast.

[Joe Budden]

Trey Songs is one of the homies anytime I. I see him. But what I will say is there's another side that's always shown in the news. If I were him, I would be looking to have a smooth run of just no stories.

[Freeze]

Yeah. Yeah, I concur.

[Mark]

That'd be great.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Cuz any of. Any of. Any of the stories like he. They've been out there.

[Ian]

It's been a lot of.

[Flip]

It's a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So then people don't know when to take your good news or when to take your bad. Like he has some stories he broke like, hey, these charges dropped and it was dismissed and. And then the next week is a bad story with something else. It's like isolate the time for your good stories to rock.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I agree.

[Joe Budden]

I tell you, he didn't sound like himself at all.

[Freeze]

He did.

[Flip]

He.

[Freeze]

He did not. Like even in. In talking, it sound like he was on something.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I don't want to put that on him cuz I don't know that to be the case.

[Freeze]

I just talked about how it sounded people.

[Mark]

So I. We spoke to a source who was there, okay. Who said he was, I think quote, he was bugging.

[Joe Budden]

And your Brian McKnight family got his everywhere.

[Ish]

Oh gosh damn. Actually, yes.

[Mark]

No, but they said, they said he was. That he didn't seem like himself. Again, they used more strong language. But the idea was he just didn't seem like himself.

[Ish]

And maybe that's. And maybe that's unfair to even for.

[Joe Budden]

Me to say on a platform this big. Cause in the nightlife life, most people aren't themselves. So I guess that's not what I'm trying to say.

[Ish]

It didn't sound like a Familiar. That's nice. It didn't sound like he was tipsy. It didn't sound like it was a drunken night. That's my non expert opinion.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

[Ish]

People, people be drunk. You go out, you drink, you have.

[Joe Budden]

A good time, you get arrested.

[Freeze]

That though you got the slurry voice. It wasn't anybody.

[Flip]

Not the same kind of drunk.

[Ian]

That's true.

[Flip]

It depends on what you and we might not have been around him enough times when he's drunk to assess how he acts when he's drunk. So I don't wanna put nothing else.

[Mark]

Yeah, I don't know the story well I wasn't there but I just hope he's okay and I hope this gets resolved.

[Ish]

What I can say is when them officers give you a chance to pay to not be processed.

[Parks]

Just pay.

[Freeze]

Pay right then and there, pay.

[Ish]

That don't mean for you to. That don't mean that you got time to go think about it, see what.

[Joe Budden]

They gonna do on the pump.

[Ish]

Fake and then come, come back and.

[Joe Budden]

Say hey, you offer me the chance to pay. Yeah, that's not how that goes. I've been in that. I've been in that same situation a few times and it up know what happens too.

[Flip]

New York has less leeway than a lot of places and don't know that until you get to New York.

[Ish]

So if you kind enough to get somebody to say that.

[Flip]

Yeah, you got to take advantage of it like no luck.

[Joe Budden]

It's true. You're absolutely right.

[Parks]

Like I said, I to want address real quick.

[Ish]

Go ahead.

[Parks]

Hey, I want to just send my thoughts and prayers. Not anything bad but to K that I mean he just put out a video saying that he's been, you know, mental health is, is, is real, you know and he, you know, he just wants to be a creator and he's been. I got you dealing with a silent battle.

[Mark]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

[Parks]

He been dealing with a silent battle and I want to just remind K in that man, you take as much.

[Flip]

Time as you needed.

[Parks]

You have changed a lot of people's lives.

[Joe Budden]

Facts.

[Parks]

You have inspired a lot of of people, even older creators as myself. You know, I want to send the love to you every time I see you is love. So you know, stand strong, get better and you know, we'll be here waiting for you to see what you create next. I can blame it Lee on my.

[Kai]

Laptop right now and I appreciate everybody who's been sending me birthday wishes as today is my birthday. So I felt like it was the perfect day to be transparent and honest with you guys a few days ago.

[Parks]

Go.

[Kai]

I spread awareness on mental health and how important it is to take care of yourself.

[Joe Budden]

It's my first time hearing this and I'm not finished with what he's saying. This sounds like somebody that took their time is well thought out. Got some money behind them.

[Ish]

Shit is at stake.

[Joe Budden]

It don't sound like flying off the hip time in content world world be thinking it's flying off the hip time all the time and all the time it's not. It's cool sometimes, most times even.

[Ish]

But all the time it's not a.

[Freeze]

Lot of times the fly off the hip be coordinated like you get what I'm saying? Like even that part be organized chaos. I would say coordinated.

[Parks]

But sometimes though know what you're doing.

[Joe Budden]

I know what you're saying. Yeah, but.

[Ish]

But sometimes it's good.

[Joe Budden]

It's good to.

[Freeze]

Yes.

[Ish]

This is great.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm 17 seconds in.

[Kai]

And honestly for the past few months I've been struggling with mental health out of self doubt and fright of pursuing goals that I really want to achieve. And the reason I've really been in my head is because I just wanted to do more. I've gained to realize that I'm a true creator and I'm very passionate about creating and I have other goals and things that I just want to achieve and do more of. And I would love to to show you guys what I've been working on for the past few months through my more personal page which is KC3 hidden. I am going to go private soon on that page. So whoever gets in, gets in. Know that sometimes it is important to take care of your mental health. And honestly it's been getting better. It has. But out of frustration and fear I just been in my head for some reason. I never had had this feeling before. But I want it to be known that I truly want to create. And I don't know if I'm getting mature or I'm just looking.

[Mark]

You are looking very broad point of view.

[Kai]

But I am so passionate about creating in general and I'm excited to show you guys what's going on.

[Mark]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm really excited for Kai. I also feel really bad that. That you know you are getting mature. Way more mature than you should have to be right this second. Yep.

[Freeze]

Here.

[Joe Budden]

Like it ain't right. It's not fair being that young, that age, holding so much power, being tied to so many powerful people, being responsible for generating millions and millions is an understatement. The high end of millions for so many different people. People carrying the weight of your entire crew. When anybody makes a mistake, it falls on you. You make a mistake, cameras are on you. There's a lot that I think about him.

[Ish]

A lot.

[Flip]

How old is he?

[Parks]

22.

[Flip]

He's in his early 20s. To be running a billion dollar empire at your early 20s. Again, I don't know if he has a billion dollars, but I'm sure his.

[Joe Budden]

He don't. But he's 22.

[Flip]

No, I'm just saying you can project he got a couple hundred million dollars dollar net worth or 24 in his hands. He might not have it where it's his net worth. But yo, you're responsible, I'm sure upward of 20, 30 different families for a lot of people.

[Freeze]

Yes, yes.

[Flip]

That's what I mean. Like, yo, and you're responsible for other people's families eating. So you can't even take a day off or you can't even get to sit down and think.

[Ish]

He can't even not know Wale.

[Flip]

That's a stress.

[Ish]

Like he's in the spot. There is nothing that you could do.

[Joe Budden]

That'S not going to get you smoked.

[Freeze]

That's a lot of pressure, bro.

[Flip]

Again, I think a bunch of us at our older ages and with life experiences, huh, bro? We're old enough to be that boy's father. And I don't think many of us could handle that. Like, he's handling that like a trooper.

[Ish]

Kai, we love you, man.

[Joe Budden]

We love you. We support you. You're in my prayers.

[Ish]

I love the trans people transparency route. I love somebody as big as you.

[Joe Budden]

Pause.

[Ish]

Coming back to get honest with the fan base. Yo, I'm starting a personal page now. I want to get in. I want to get into me and who I am and how I feel. And my feelings are changing about things.

[Joe Budden]

Because I'm getting older.

[Ish]

I absolutely love it.

[Joe Budden]

Hats off to Kasana, man. Hats off to him.

[Mark]

Joe, since we in this kind of heavy turn, maybe it's time to do some rips.

[Joe Budden]

Good, John.

[Mark]

I think the biggest headline the last couple days has been Rob Reiner tragically. And I'm still like stunned by this, to be honest. Rob Reiner was killed a few days ago and his wife reportedly by his son. There's a lot of complex things going on because of mental health issues. But he has been arrested. His bail has been. Right now he's not mentally fit to see a judge, so he'll get his due process the night before. According to reports, they had been together at Conan o' Brien's Christmas party the next day. There are reports that they had an argument. What we know as a fact is that he's the only person of interest, that he's the only person who's been charged, and we know that both of their throats were cut. It's an absolute tragedy on all levels. I remember in 2016 when they did a movie together which was loosely based on his son's drug journey slash mental health journey. I watched a lot of the interviews from that time. They did a lot of revealing, a lot of healing, a lot of conversation. I was actually excited and encouraged to see where they were. So to see any of this happening right now is an awful tragedy, and this could never not be true. Tragic. But I think for a lot of us, it's especially tragic because of who Rob Reiner has been to so many people. There's just not a lot of good people in Hollywood whose reputation stayed good for a long time.

[Joe Budden]

Well, if you don't know nothing about Rob Reiner and his wife and Carl Reiner, I mean, if you're a parent.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's what I said. There's no way for this not to be a tragedy. This is.

[Flip]

Go ahead.

[Mark]

I'm sorry. No, no. You're 100% disturbing.

[Joe Budden]

Even, like, listening to it almost.

[Mark]

I know. No, I agree with you. When I heard this.

[Joe Budden]

Holidays.

[Mark]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

The. The way that it's being reported that the murder happened, like that type of stabbing. You know what they say about stabbing. Like, it's just.

[Mark]

I couldn't. I still can't wrap my head around it.

[Joe Budden]

Me either.

[Mark]

Even if. And not to get gruesome, but, I mean, you hear gunshots, you hear heat of passion.

[Ish]

You hear.

[Mark]

You think gun. But that kind of gruesome crime to your parents and both of them.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Is something that I can't wrap my head around. I'm. I'm hoping to get more information to make it make sense, but I'm struggling to make. To even have a narrative of how it could have played out that way. I've heard him say in earlier interviews that they've had intense arguments, and he has said, like, you know, I'm out of control and I don't get upset. The sun. But I never. I don't think anyone could have ever.

[Joe Budden]

Expected my brain be so far away from your kids killing you that when the story was reported, I was really perplexed as to how. Because it first came out. Rob Reiner and his wife found deceased in the house. That was the only thing that came out. And I'm sitting like, well, damn. How could that. How could that happen?

[Mark]

Right?

[Ish]

It never. That's how far away that thought is for me.

[Flip]

And, you know, for us, we often think about somebody broke in the house on some trying to steal some robbery some money, some. You know what I mean? You don't necessarily think it was a personal thing, especially somebody in your family that might have committed it immediately.

[Joe Budden]

Right?

[Flip]

We'll go until somebody was stealing or somebody was trying to, you know, rob you. Cause you're rich.

[Ian]

That was my first time thinking you're rich.

[Flip]

Me, too.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Mark]

And so, you know, obviously, just sending prayers to everyone connected to them, family, friends, fans, to Rob Reiner and his.

[Joe Budden]

Wife Michelle and Hollywood, all the actors, Actors that they've helped. I'm hearing all of the stories come out now just about what Rob Reiner has meant to so many people.

[Mark]

I've had. I didn't know Rob Reiner well, but I've had the opportunity to interview him and sit with him. And he's just as kind and generous as you have probably heard that he was. And when you talk to other actors about what he's done for them, like you said, it's been incredible. And I don't want people to underestimate how big of a giant he was. For some people, he was just a TV giant. He. He was meathead.

[Joe Budden]

He was meathead.

[Mark]

Mike Stivic on All in the Family, which he got a role at, like 23 years old, did for eight years, and would be enough to make him cement him. Right? But then he goes into Hollywood as a director and makes joints. You start with the spinal tab, Right. Which is the template for mockumentaries you don't have the Office without. Right, exactly. And then he did the sequel to that.

[Flip]

Right.

[Mark]

But then you talk about. About. I mean, God, Stand By Me. Stand By Me Princess Bride, Harry Met Sally, Few Good Men, When Harry Met Sally and A Few Good Men, Misery. Yeah, I mean, Joyce, I mean. I mean, when we talk about the pantheon of extraordinary directors, I mean, he's up there with. Right, Wolf of Wall. Exactly. I mean, and when you talk about people who.

[Ish]

Yeah, he did Wolf of Wall street, too.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he.

[Mark]

Yeah, he's a giant. I mean, obviously he's the son of Carl Reiner. But most people who are the son of people as big as Carl Reiner don't match. They don't match it. They don't come close. He exceeded in Many ways, you know, his family gifts or whatever, you know, he was extraordinary man. And I'm so upset for his oldest child, who he had with Penny Marshall, who passed away five years ago from cancer. I believe she had cancer and she passed away. So, I mean, to lose two parents so soon is tough, but just to see the entire family dealing with this tragedy. I'm sending so much heartfelt love.

[Joe Budden]

And not to cut you off, please, you're the greatest in the world at this, I take it. I defer to you at all times during this, but.

[Parks]

And.

[Joe Budden]

They say the daughter is the.

[Ish]

One that had to come in there.

[Joe Budden]

And like, are you kidding me?

[Mark]

I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine.

[Joe Budden]

So. As if you not dealing with enough to have the president. I ain't about to politicize this. I ain't even about to really highlight all of that. But to then have that statement be put out by the leader and frontman of a country is disgusting. It's despicable to me. It's nasty. You niggas that vote voted for him.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

These were the types of things on the minds of people that opposed that.

[Freeze]

And told you and told you and told you.

[Flip]

The crazy part is he could do shit like this every single day of the week. They'll still defend him.

[Freeze]

Yep.

[Flip]

At some point.

[Freeze]

Like, cool.

[Flip]

You make mistakes in life. Like, yo, dawg, I ain't gonna lie. I did that. I'm regretting it now. I respect that. I respect. Yo, we all make mistakes in life. For you to just stand on your square and not say, yo, that was a bad judgment call that I made is crazy to me. I look at them worse than I. Damn. They look at him.

[Joe Budden]

See, and that's not. That's not. And I'm not. Again, I don't want to make this bad.

[Mark]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't American to me.

[Flip]

Nah, it's not.

[Ish]

It's not leadership. What.

[Joe Budden]

What they think American mean and what I think it mean is two different things.

[Flip]

It's different. I agree with that.

[Mark]

Yeah, it was. It was. It was.

[Ian]

It was disgusting.

[Mark]

Disgusting. It's one thing to have political disagreements. You know, I'm one of the people that says, look, when people die, we don't have to pretend that we love them. If he wanted to say, the day after Rob Reiner died, he was a crazy, stupid liberal. Do your thing.

[Ish]

Right.

[Mark]

But to see someone brutally murdered in the bed, and then to blame the.

[Ian]

Brutal murder on his political.

[Mark]

On their political beliefs when there's absolutely no basis for that. Other than you just pulling out of your ass to me is. Is the disgusting part.

[Flip]

Let's say this. Let's say you did feel that way. You don't say it in a position of leadership. This is what leadership is. You have tact, you have decorum, you have discernment. That is what leaders should show and express.

[Mark]

Yeah. That's what the Obamas did.

[Flip]

That's what mad presidents did, whether we like them or not. George Bush would have never done no shit like this.

[Mark]

Oh, yeah, but I mean, the Obamas did it specifically with Rob Wright and by the way, Michelle Obama.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Michelle, please.

[Mark]

They spoke. Michelle and Barack Obama were supposed to have dinner with him that night that they were killed. So they were especially shocked by it. And they issued a beautiful statement about Rob Reiner. I think it's on X collectively on President Obama's page. But yeah, I think they modeled what you're supposed to say. I think they got Rob Reiner. Right. But also just leadership. You don't have to do that as a leader of a country. Yeah.

[Flip]

You don't do that as a leader.

[Freeze]

Don't do that as a person.

[Flip]

As a leader of the baseball team.

[Ish]

What we talking about?

[Flip]

The free world? My, you do dumb like that? Come on, bro. And they'll defend them. They'll defend them time and time and time again. No matter who he insults, no matter who he berates and belittles, they will defend this time and time again. That is disgusting.

[Joe Budden]

Body's not even in the ground.

[Flip]

Yeah. What are you talking about?

[Mark]

But he's not even in the ground.

[Joe Budden]

We got Rob Reiner.

[Freeze]

Rest in peace.

[Flip]

Rest in peace.

[Ian]

And Michelle.

[Joe Budden]

And Michelle.

[Mark]

And Michelle Singer Reiner. Yes. And while we're on the rest in peace train, Carl Carlton passed away. One of the greats, if y' all don't know him by name. You know, Bad Mama Jama, you know, True indeed. You know, Everlasting Love, you know, you know two of his big, big, big hits. That's your era is you. You know it is.

[Ish]

And.

[Mark]

R and B. Giant. A soul giant.

[Ish]

You a bad mamma Jam.

[Joe Budden]

A let up.

[Parks]

We telling you, picking you up just.

[Flip]

As fine as you could be.

[Ish]

And I'm clipping that.

[Joe Budden]

That'll be the last.

[Ish]

Enough. Enough of that.

[Joe Budden]

That's hate.

[Ish]

Is that hate?

[Joe Budden]

Is that.

[Ish]

Is that hate?

[Flip]

Room to compliment you up here.

[Ish]

Is that hate a producing hate or both?

[Joe Budden]

All right, fine. I we.

[Freeze]

Cuz if she was doing that to you, it would fly.

[Ish]

No, it wouldn't.

[Flip]

Oh, flip does it to you.

[Ish]

No, he does not.

[Parks]

Oh, yo, light eyes. Oh, you crazy. Yo, you like that, you know?

[Ish]

Yo, yo, you.

[Flip]

Yo, yo, you the most giving, most thoughtful, most. You know what I'm saying? The whole entire planet, baby.

[Parks]

Let me tell you something.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

Web and Nidia be mad at me if I ain't come up here and say how great you are.

[Ish]

Boy, that's facts.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's fact.

[Flip]

You don't got a mean bone in your body.

[Ish]

It ain't a fact that you so beautiful.

[Parks]

You got a mean bone in his body. First, number one.

[Flip]

Number two.

[Joe Budden]

Like, that's just an opinion. That you so beautiful. We better say it. Cause we.

[Parks]

Yeah, you've been a little receptive of. Of that. The type of compliments as of late. You've been a little receptive.

[Flip]

You good, brother. I've been getting compliments my whole life. Everything good at home. Speak right.

[Parks]

Everything good at home.

[Ish]

Speak right.

[Flip]

Speak right.

[Parks]

You good at home.

[Flip]

I'm straight at home.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Greatest.

[Flip]

Six o' clock at my house.

[Parks]

5:45Ish.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, it's December. It's a good time to just be straight at home. And December is a good time to be straight at home. It is. Yo, seriously, I ain't even. I want to join in on the joke. But it's December.

[Parks]

We know.

[Joe Budden]

You can't.

[Parks]

It's okay.

[Flip]

I love it.

[Joe Budden]

You talking about my own situation.

[Parks]

I'm not.

[Ish]

I just talking about my.

[Joe Budden]

Talking about. You talking about my own situation to try to get the fans riled up again and start talking about my family.

[Ish]

No, I don't.

[Parks]

You just said I'm not going to be.

[Ish]

Is that what you exposes I hear? I hear him out there. There must be something going on. The cast must know stuff. We know.

[Parks]

We don't know nothing.

[Ish]

Yeah, but. No.

[Joe Budden]

Mind your business.

[Parks]

You don't talk to us about your personal business.

[Joe Budden]

I try not to. I mean, that don't matter if y' all say something up here.

[Parks]

You know, I'm Mr.

[Mark]

Narrative having it.

[Ish]

I'm not mad. I'm not mad at it.

[Parks]

Cuz you create a lot of them.

[Joe Budden]

Some I leave off here. Wait. Okay.

[Ish]

I can hear sucking the teeth from the whole right side of the room. Kiki.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Ish]

You sucking your teeth. You know. You know, I got the clubhouse called. Are you saying. Hey, you think?

[Joe Budden]

Hey.

[Ish]

Just so you know, I still go on here sometimes. So you want to play with me today? You better tell Mark about something that I. Some, I don't know. Don't suck no teeth, though.

[Parks]

He ain't talking about it yet?

[Joe Budden]

Probably.

[Ish]

I don't know. He did. I ain't talk about it.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway, we are in the middle of Rest in Peace.

[Mark]

I was about to say. Yeah, sorry, Carl. Carl Carlton, great singer from Detroit. Early on his career real fast, you know, was sort of compared to Stevie. People thought he wouldn't be able to break his own kind of path out because of how he sounded tonally. He became his own artist, made big hits and is one of the great legends. There's a third person that you know better than me, Joe, and that's Peter Green.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dog, man.

[Ian]

Some pivotal roles that man played work.

[Joe Budden]

See, Peter, and I knew Mark, I, I, I don't like bond with Mark. I don't.

[Ish]

I knew that he was going to.

[Joe Budden]

Do the most sentimental, best heartfelt rest in pieces ever. And then for the white man that.

[Ish]

I love, that died right after, right after black.

[Ian]

He makes it hard. He makes it hard.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Pause.

[Mark]

And Rob Reiner was a great white.

[Ish]

Rob Reiner, but you started with that, then went to the, the great black and then bounced back to you a cynical motherfucker. Listen, Peter Green died, yo. And I was distraught about it. I'm not gonna lie to y'. All. When that came across my news feed, I was fucked up. Peter Green, usual suspects. Peter Green. You might not know the name.

[Joe Budden]

You know, the face.

[Freeze]

I didn't know the name.

[Ish]

Pulp Fiction.

[Freeze]

Peter Green as soon as I saw the face.

[Ish]

Oh, him. Peter Green. Green, the dopest bad guy in any B movie you ever saw. If you were black. If you a black person. The white bad guy that did that.

[Mark]

He was, he was that shit.

[Ish]

You know him if you see him. Peter fucking Green died, yo. It just made me stop and be appreciative of life.

[Freeze]

Life one. Yeah.

[Flip]

Life two.

[Ish]

There's so many people I love that will never know I love them. There's so many people that ESPN was doing a Stuart Scott tribute over the fucking weekend. And it's just too many people that I hold in such high regard that you may not think of on a day to day basis. And then gone. Gone.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

That Peter Green shit fucked me up. Rest in peace to Peter Green. My thoughts and prayers to his family, friends, his fans. I can't be the only one. I can't be the only one. Listen, there's a great piece out there about them filming the you motherfucker.

[Joe Budden]

Lineup scene from Usual.

[Ish]

So that's why suspects some of the best material you'll ever hear. Just about them improving and going off script. And just the way that they pulled off such mastery.

[Joe Budden]

You have to watch it yourself. I'm doing a horrible job of telling you, but Peter Green.

[Ish]

I was hurt. We was hurt behind that. Every death hurts.

[Joe Budden]

Peter Green hurt a lot. Rest in peace to Peter Green.

[Flip]

Man, you see the IMDb on the. This. This.

[Joe Budden]

I did.

[Ish]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Crazy.

[Ish]

He was never not working.

[Joe Budden]

Before. Yes, Jewels. I don't ill timed. I'm working on my commute.

[Mark]

I'm working.

[Joe Budden]

I'm working on it.

[Ish]

I'm not. I'm not the best version of me yet.

[Joe Budden]

Anyway. Rest in peace to Peter Green. Yeah, I'm queuing up something.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm queuing up something. I got to do it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, sorry. Hit us with a little something, please. Come on, man. Man.

[Ish]

Yo. And my heart goes out to you, man.

[Joe Budden]

This is just a man.

[Ish]

Listen, if you lost somebody out there, I'm with you. I'm praying for you.

[Joe Budden]

Holidays can get tough sometimes. Man. I can't believe they took them people from us.

[Ish]

Yes, sir. Try and lighten the vibe a bit. Lighten the moon a little bit. All right, here we go.

[Joe Budden]

Man. We always say we're gonna get to the sad stuff in. In hour three. As if it'll help you deliver.

[Freeze]

Doesn't we just prolong it and still feel the same?

[Ian]

Did we all see Mayor Kingstown this week?

[Freeze]

Yes, I did.

[Ish]

Yeah, we might have been wrong.

[Ian]

Yeah, we might have been wrong.

[Joe Budden]

I think I'm here to fight it.

[Ian]

Yeah, you think they still gonna take the brother out? Spoiler alert.

[Ish]

Spoiler alert. I was wrong about what episode we.

[Joe Budden]

Were at last week. I don't know what I saw.

[Ish]

This was episode eight. There are two more episodes to follow. I thought seven was eight.

[Joe Budden]

I it up. Sorry. I'm not a journalist.

[Ish]

This was episode eight. We know it because, boy, was it a goodie number one. And boy, was it the shortest one that you've seen all season.

[Ian]

Did feel short.

[Joe Budden]

It did and that did.

[Ish]

It was short.

[Ian]

Was it short?

[Ish]

It was short.

[Joe Budden]

This one might have been fucking 43 minutes or something like that.

[Ish]

But no complaints.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Nah, no complaints. I stand by. This is the best season of Mayor of Kingstowne ever for sure. I don't care what happens in the next two episodes. This is the best. This is one and two, dog. We're sitting here throwing shit at a wall, giving our predictions for the show and how it could progress. So when we say the brother is gonna die, yes, we think the brother's gonna die. But if he don't, if you kill his fucking wife. Then you know what we saying? Somebody from the brother has to die for this to go where it's gotta go. So, yes, I was wrong. The brother.

[Parks]

Brother.

[Ish]

And well, as of now, yeah, the brother is alive. But that scene with the wife and the baby, that was crazy.

[Freeze]

The phone call.

[Ish]

I paused the show. I paused it. Cause I wasn't prepared for them. That show, none of that.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

I ain't think he was gonna do it. Like, I'm like, nah, he's not. The phone call was the crazy shit. When he was like, yo, what do you want? He's like, I got it. Like, ain't no deal to make now.

[Joe Budden]

There's no deal to make.

[Ish]

There's nothing you can. I gave you the deal.

[Joe Budden]

I gave you options. Option.

[Ish]

You chose to do it that way.

[Freeze]

I chose that.

[Ish]

Cool.

[Freeze]

I gotta make you feel it.

[Ish]

I never thought that he would kill the child.

[Freeze]

I did.

[Ish]

I. I never thought that.

[Ian]

I thought he might kill a child, but they don't usually do that on tv.

[Ish]

I loved how the show went about.

[Joe Budden]

Showing, but not showing what happened. Cuz I wasn't ready for none of that. I don't care if we on Paramount, Sundance. Let me hear the noise. And that's it.

[Ish]

Now what I will say is homeboy escape.

[Flip]

Escaped.

[Ish]

Everybody knows that he escaped. Everybody that Mike goes to talk to says he's coming for you. He's looking for you. He's not out to do nothing else but with you. And you don't have somebody watching your house.

[Flip]

Come on.

[Ish]

They burnt your house down with homeboys still in there. The meth head dude.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And then you don't have nobody watching, watching your brother's house with the wife and kid there, dog. What do you want me to say about it?

[Flip]

No, no, no. It's wrong.

[Freeze]

No, no, no, no. The. The wife and kid left. The wife and kid was in Ohio. They was in Ohio.

[Flip]

That's why the sister crib.

[Freeze]

She left to get away.

[Joe Budden]

I'm wrong, you're right.

[Ish]

Wherever she was. But I'm putting somebody there. Especially when, you know, once homeboy left the jail and you see that.

[Mark]

All right, he was.

[Ish]

You a What That. That. That he did to. To jam your brother up with the grape when them dudes. And then they saved you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying, great.

[Ish]

But Mike is the one that told him, yo, that's the setup.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Ish]

That's all by design.

[Freeze]

That's the part that got me. Because Mike even said, yo, he's gone. He's not here. No More so if you Mike and you thinking he's go, everybody else is telling him, no, he's not going. He's staying here for you.

[Ish]

Your brother's the safest he could be.

[Mark]

No.

[Freeze]

Now, right, Your brother's safe.

[Ish]

He.

[Freeze]

You saying he's gone. The next stop is, yo, we got to go check on the sister or check on the wife and, and the baby.

[Flip]

There's a few things. One, how if you're Mike, would you even know that he knew your sister was gone and moved to another state?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, he didn't have to know that.

[Freeze]

You don't have to know that. You don't have to know that he know that. But the fact that Mike know how this move and you know, you want to, you want to hurt me, you want to get to me, you want to hurt me. But if I'm telling everybody else, because they all like, yo, Mike, where's he at? Where's he at? He's coming for you. And he's like, nah, he's gone already. Where is going? You think he just went up to Canada and just laid low?

[Flip]

No.

[Freeze]

So what's the next thing? You're not attacking me here. You're not attacking my brother in jail. How else can you attack. Attack us?

[Flip]

Shorty, you not think, all right, you right in our brain. But if you looking at it from that perspective, he don't know that you moved your sister in law away. And if he does know that, he don't know exactly where to go find him. So what he did was got on the phone, he called a black girl and said, get out of there right now.

[Ish]

Right?

[Flip]

Because those are the people that you think he immediately can touch. You don't think that he can. Can get to your sister in law that's living in another state with her sister and all this other shit that's not gonna be on your brain.

[Freeze]

But it should be, though.

[Joe Budden]

Then you slept, but it should be.

[Freeze]

It should be on the list of things in your brain. Not, maybe not number one, but it should be on the list.

[Flip]

And number two. And number two, two things have happened. The black dude, Moses. Yeah, that's your number one priority at this point. And until you go in the room. Bunny is damn near on his death, deathbed. So you got so many different things going on where the Callahan could have got it off, where you not prioritizing in order of that. I. I just think that. I don't think that he really was sleeping. I just think the nigga's the busiest in Kingston.

[Freeze]

I still think you sleeping on that? You can't, you can't sleep on. You can't sleep on him.

[Flip]

I'm not disagreeing with you.

[Freeze]

So it's, it's, it's, it's prioritizing.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Cool.

[Freeze]

You right. What's my man name from the Detroit?

[Mark]

Moses.

[Freeze]

Yeah. He is high up on the list. We got to worry about this. But now that you found out that this has escaped and you know what he's on, we got to reshuffle the priorities a little bit right this second.

[Joe Budden]

You. I don't want us to spoil this any more than we already have for some of the people that are hitting the 15 second skip button because they haven't watched it yet. I'm a lunatic with it, so I'm going to watch it. My final question though on this.

[Freeze]

I got one for the final after that too.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's. Then that's not me close. I went to school for closing. You go first.

[Freeze]

Oh, then I'll go first and you can close.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you.

[Freeze]

Do y' all think Rob is dead?

[Flip]

I think they left it open ended on for. For a reason.

[Freeze]

I don't think he's dead.

[Flip]

I don't think he's dead either.

[Freeze]

And when he comes to and finds out what was the setup he on they ass.

[Flip]

See, I think you could get away from it. I don't think he's dead though. I think Rob's wife was in the house. House came back, saw him in the car, came all that other shit. I don't think he's dead. Cause they would have showed him dead. And then I also y' all think was Kyle dies. I don't think Kyle dies. I think. I think Callahan is turning Kyle into a maniac. Y' all remember when Mike drove Kyle to jail? His biggest thing was don't turn into me. Don't turn into a killer. Remain who you are. I think Kyle is about to be a straight stone cold lunatic, bro.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I can see that. Especially now after hit that phone. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Flip]

I think he's about to be a lunatic.

[Joe Budden]

My final question to y'. All, do y' all think that it's even possible that they tie up everything that they've given us in this season by the season episodes?

[Ian]

No.

[Flip]

One.

[Freeze]

Two.

[Joe Budden]

Two.

[Ian]

Two more.

[Ish]

Is it pot?

[Joe Budden]

They. They've done such a great job with all of these different avenues.

[Freeze]

I think, like, I don't think you.

[Ian]

Want to close it all. You want to leave some open it.

[Freeze]

You can close a couple.

[Ish]

You got to close and start. You got to close and start. If the. If the season end and we don't get into the.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Ish]

The bald dude and the murders that him and homeboy.

[Joe Budden]

If we. Mike's partner, this sergeant Baldur.

[Ish]

If we don't hear no more about that, I'm going be like, come on, dog, you're not.

[Freeze]

But that's.

[Flip]

Ian's tied it up.

[Mark]

Stupid question.

[Freeze]

And that's what. And that's where I'm telling you. That's where I think Rob being alive coming out in the finale.

[Joe Budden]

That does make sense.

[Freeze]

It clear now we.

[Ish]

We.

[Freeze]

We go into next season with that.

[Mark]

So real quick. Because I haven't watched any. Any of this.

[Parks]

Not me neither.

[Joe Budden]

So. And we just closed it. Go ahead.

[Mark]

That's why I'm moving past the. The.

[Joe Budden]

The reach. I know you are. Mark went out there, called his other job, came back doing his planning.

[Mark]

I want to pee. I left the phone here. I went to pee. No, no. I'm looking for a new show to watch.

[Joe Budden]

Would this.

[Mark]

I was gonna say would this be the one?

[Ian]

Oh, it's a great show.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Flip]

It's a few.

[Freeze]

This is a great show.

[Mark]

Is it super violent?

[Freeze]

I wouldn't say super, super violent.

[Ian]

It's violent, but it's not super.

[Mark]

My wife likes to. This would be like a partner show. Y' all watch this with your girls? Yes, yes.

[Joe Budden]

My girl loves it.

[Freeze]

Yeah, my girl loves it.

[Joe Budden]

My girl. Girl didn't.

[Ian]

She turned it down when we first watched it. But then she walked in on me watch it. She's like, why didn't we watch this together? I would have loved this show.

[Freeze]

I'm like, I love that.

[Joe Budden]

My girl mad that I watched a whole season of Landman and never said a word.

[Flip]

And Landman just got picked up for season three.

[Joe Budden]

As it should.

[Mark]

Is that another one to watch?

[Ian]

Anything that Sheridan does?

[Flip]

You're pretty much speaking of Sheridan, he got a 20 shot show deal for his billion dollars. 20 shows that he got to come up with. That's crazy.

[Ian]

I mean he's already come up with like eight over a pair. Yeah.

[Flip]

That are all solid eight heads also.

[Joe Budden]

I've been saying it for weeks. But last my final word on television shows. Couldn't be any more angry to be that late to the morning show.

[Ian]

That is good.

[Mark]

I tried to tell you last year.

[Flip]

I tried to tell y' all actually.

[Mark]

Made fun of me last year.

[Freeze]

I told y' all since it's started.

[Mark]

Please watch.

[Ian]

How far are you Pause.

[Joe Budden]

I'm still early. I'm in like episode.

[Ish]

I'm on the first season.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Flip]

I'm on the first season, too.

[Joe Budden]

I'm on the first season, but I.

[Freeze]

Wish I could go.

[Ish]

That's one of them shows, though, where it don't take long to see why this is one of the better shows out.

[Ian]

Oh, yeah, we took. We took down the whole season this weekend.

[Ish]

Where you at?

[Ian]

Locked in. Almost. Almost caught up. I'm real. Yeah, we're almost a four already.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

How many seasons is it?

[Ish]

Four.

[Flip]

Four. I was saying it from the go watch.

[Joe Budden]

All right, come on. Y. I need Flip back in the game. Enough tv.

[Parks]

All right, well, I'm back. You won't give me no food. I got to order food. My fault. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

I have to be.

[Parks]

That's you being back in the game.

[Joe Budden]

Look at.

[Parks]

Be healthy. I have to order some. Some. Some health. Some whole week.

[Mark]

Can I. Can I get. Can I get a quick. So tonight. Tonight, Wednesday.

[Parks]

Can you get a quickie?

[Mark]

No. Say quick advice. Quick advice. Quick advice. Oh, all right.

[Joe Budden]

You did.

[Mark]

I'm articulating.

[Parks]

Hey, bro, you got somebody to go after this bro? Stop Rush speaking. Yo, we went to that time I.

[Mark]

Rush speaking.

[Parks]

We don't get.

[Mark]

Yeah, I got to pick my kid up.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Parks]

I can't talk about.

[Ish]

Got me.

[Parks]

Can't talk about me.

[Flip]

Malcolm.

[Joe Budden]

Malcolm already drove away.

[Flip]

Stole a car too.

[Ish]

Get out.

[Parks]

Get your little.

[Mark]

Right.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Mark]

So tonight Wednesdays is airs is my birthday. And I don't like to do shit for birthdays. Right.

[Ish]

My wife.

[Parks]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Mark]

Let's start today. And to JR as well.

[Parks]

JR Birthday. Yes.

[Mark]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah, you duck ass nigga.

[Flip]

You made all this fuss about my birthday. Ain't gonna hide yours.

[Parks]

Damn, son.

[Mark]

Actually, last week when we talked about. I said my birthday is next week.

[Joe Budden]

You did?

[Mark]

We had a whole conversation about it.

[Parks]

Well, you don't even know where you listen to.

[Mark]

So you were sitting right there. We talking about yours. From your mind. Mon was asking you about you. It's fine. It was late in the day anyway. What is something that I can do that's simple, that'll please my wife. First of all, is it unfair that I gotta do something on my birthday?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ian]

Yeah, I don't think it's. I think your mentality of what can I do to please my. Well, first of all, that's crazy manosphere. You shouldn't be thinking about that on your birthday.

[Joe Budden]

You shouldn't have to.

[Mark]

Yeah, that's a good way. She wants me to have a good day, but she doesn't. I don't think she believes that I really just wanna say at home and watch YouTube.

[Joe Budden]

They never believe that a good day can be just because they care more.

[Freeze]

About our birthdays than we do. Yes us we be cool doing just regular and to them because they care so much about their birthdays, they expect us to care so at least a.

[Ish]

Portion of that about and they selfish.

[Joe Budden]

So they feel like your birthday is their second birthday. They want to take the pics and make it look like something and you.

[Parks]

Know they want you to come feel like how old are you?

[Mark]

I want to 47. Oh, I want to go to. I want to go to dinner just cause you know we got a babysitter. I would do that any day. But like it's nice. Yeah but I feel like there's one activity I can do that'll make it a birth. You know what I mean? Like we did more than a normal night. But I don't want to do nothing big. What's the thing that.

[Parks]

Wait, hold on. We don't want to get in your personal business. You get a little freaky on us. We respect Ms. Mel. Don't do that like that.

[Ish]

You pray for that. You the only person.

[Mark]

No, you ain't actually.

[Ish]

You know what Jackals. He's not jackals. He's not the only person.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Ish]

You framed it. I'm just thinking of a social activity. How much. How much you want to spice it.

[Parks]

Up.

[Ish]

But you know.

[Parks]

Yo, yo, we respect.

[Ish]

Tell him JB3 said I withdraw the question.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I'm. I'll keep it on the dinner that you said you wanted to have. I know I probably said this a million times. Oh Cory, I'm in the talk of to you too. But there was a gentleman that came to my birthday dinner. His name was Tony. He was there with his wife, had a beautiful suit on. He owns a restaurant that is a.

[Flip]

Little drive south Jersey.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's in North Brunswick or somewhere.

[Flip]

Oh yeah?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's called libes. And if you just go and he going to recognize you anyway. But he's going to show you and your wife the time of your life. He's going to pull out the red carpet. Carpet. Anything you need. He probably. He probably won't take a dime from you while giving you the whole menu. Like if just on the dinner side it's worth the trip.

[Freeze]

It's a dope spot too.

[Joe Budden]

You said, right? Oh yeah, yeah. Did you like it? You went.

[Flip]

No, I heard it's dope. Dashing away.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't even recommend it to as many people. As I tell them to go out there. If it wasn't that.

[Ish]

And he's such a great guy.

[Joe Budden]

Family business. He came to my. Like I said, he gonna get a.

[Ish]

Whole bunch of menu.

[Joe Budden]

The menu has things that you don't.

[Ian]

You not.

[Ish]

It sound like.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not trying to do all that. I got you.

[Ish]

But the BB's just on the dinner side. Totally worth the trip.

[Mark]

Y' all might have sold me that. That might.

[Flip]

With that just. That's not that far.

[Freeze]

Yeah, it's far for you.

[Flip]

It ain't crazy.

[Freeze]

Far from.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I don't have a rich house worth all of these millions and millions of dollars yet. And hidden up in the hills of Jersey.

[Parks]

You don't have a rich house yet.

[Joe Budden]

Just coming hidden up in the hills. Jersey.

[Mark]

I'm not hitting it yet.

[Ian]

I mean.

[Parks]

And you bought that crate before you got here too. So you binged it. Sat on that.

[Mark]

Yeah. Patriotic.

[Flip]

Oh, not your little.

[Parks]

Not my little. What he said your little cute shit. Oh, yeah. I'm fine with that. You know, life. Life is lifeing. Life is lifeing. You know, I'm appreciative.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody don't mind being close to their neighbors, though.

[Ish]

Like, some people, they.

[Flip]

Karen Jr. Get a whooping through the wall.

[Ish]

What he say?

[Freeze]

He shot back, said you got a shared elevator.

[Parks]

You know who you talk about? You talking about you some elevators. But don't matter how much money they got, you are not your boy.

[Joe Budden]

I think we did an amazing job.

[Mark]

Great job today.

[Joe Budden]

We covered most. Before Mark leaves, I do need the. The cast opinion on the Bobby Schmurder jumping in Minnesota. That's all I got for y'. All.

[Mark]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Parks]

The story started dancing.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ian]

It didn't look like the most effective.

[Parks]

It did Bobby.

[Flip]

Like what?

[Mark]

Let me look at this video.

[Flip]

They couldn't get him.

[Ian]

It did look like an effective jungle.

[Freeze]

They got some.

[Flip]

They got him.

[Freeze]

But they was knotted up in.

[Ish]

They got you.

[Flip]

Yo, bro, do you see how many was on that go getting him.

[Ish]

Also known as getting.

[Flip]

Bobby ain't the biggest guy.

[Freeze]

And they got.

[Flip]

If they would have got him, right? He wouldn't have got up out of it. He would.

[Joe Budden]

No, they didn't do that. No, they not saying that.

[Flip]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, we agree with you. But for.

[Ish]

What happened happened.

[Joe Budden]

They got.

[Ish]

They caught him.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't get him. But.

[Flip]

And it was up.

[Ish]

He made it out to be able to make a video the next day.

[Joe Budden]

Saying I look beautiful and I got my Chain back. My.

[Ish]

My charm.

[Joe Budden]

So it's. No, they didn't.

[Flip]

It's kind of up, cuz. If you see how they had him, it wasn't really nowhere for him to go. Like, I'm rooting like, yo, damn. My.

[Parks]

He can't get no. But if you. If the beginning of the video, the other clip. Bobby punched the guy first. One of the guys first. The guy kept touching him.

[Ish]

I got that fight in every angle in my phone.

[Parks]

He said, the guy touch. Bobby, punched him first. But them Somalian, they came together. Y' all heard, they came together, going.

[Flip]

To these towns and thinking, sweet. Don't be sweet.

[Parks]

And he started dancing in the hotel. Yo, he started doing.

[Ish]

He don't give a.

[Flip]

You got to.

[Joe Budden]

With Bobby, bro.

[Parks]

He had the girls in the background hyping him.

[Joe Budden]

That's.

[Mark]

I said, that's.

[Parks]

That's the shit that caused it. Yo, shot.

[Mark]

He got a shit.

[Flip]

It was an article that said he had came there last time and demanded more money. He did something that. Yeah, like, he ain't. He left. He ain't delivered. And then they said this time when he got there, he had asked for, like, five grand more than they had already agreed upon. And so they said that it was already, like, some tension. They said that the promoter was gonna cancel the show, but he didn't want to cancel the show again. Cause now it make you understand.

[Joe Budden]

Name look up money in my name. I put you on flyers. I promoted you. I got a packed house. They expect to see you.

[Parks]

It's a fact.

[Joe Budden]

You on asking me for more money on the side, but I can't let. I got a name out here. He had no choice, really, but to pay the 5. You got to pay the 5.

[Ish]

These promoters make. They living off of what the flyer says is happening reputation.

[Mark]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Flip]

And you got to talk about smaller markets that don't necessarily get celebrities like that. That's. They lick. Cause now if FAB comes through to fucking the middle of nowhere, now, I could charge $100aman. Now you got a packed house, 2000 people at $100 a head, and Fab don't show up or XYZ don't show up. Your name look fucked up niggas want their money back. All of that stuff. You can't give it to them. So now nigga kind of is extorting you, you know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

And you fuck it up for the. All of the people that make their living traveling state to state to where when they don't have our back end. Now we don't show up, and now we can revolt a certain way. But they got your money.

[Ish]

They got what y' all agreed on. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And you just. Not anymore or. I'm not showing. That's. That's.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

I don't. I don't. I don't.

[Freeze]

I'm not a fan of that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not with that. I'm not. Yeah. That's crazy.

[Flip]

So that's supposedly allegedly what took place. That had, like, tensions running high.

[Mark]

But it looked like Bobby. I'm just watching the video look like he jumped in like it wasn't. Like he wasn't following security. Like, he jumped down right to confront fans. Like that didn't have to go down that way.

[Flip]

No, not when I say earlier he.

[Parks]

Had punched a guy and then it was some scuffling going on there, and.

[Mark]

He ended up in the corner like, oh, I seen.

[Flip]

Get out the corner.

[Mark]

The clip I saw, he was already in the corner. Yeah, no, got, you got, you got, you got. You got it. That's helpful. Okay. He ain't no nothing, though, man. I mean, he was.

[Freeze]

Yeah, he came to play.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, well, ain't nobody think he was sweet.

[Flip]

No, he came to play.

[Joe Budden]

Nobody ever said that about.

[Mark]

About Bobby Smith, but I with him, man.

[Joe Budden]

Glad he got out of there. Okay. That's important. Again, when you traveling state to state, just in those environments, you don't know nobody. It's you and your security that can get ugly fast.

[Freeze]

So away games.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, away games, basically.

[Ish]

Is there anything else that we need from you guys?

[Joe Budden]

Anything else you want to pour out of your hearts? I think this was an amazing, great show. Yeah, this was awesome. I had a lot of fun with you guys. Right?

[Parks]

See you guys later.

[Mark]

You did good, buddy.

[Ish]

Did we hit all the topics? Is there anything happening? Is there anything breaking before we end? I meant to say, too, Yo, Funk, Flex, your morning voice. I cannot be the only one thinking it.

[Ian]

I didn't hear it.

[Ish]

His morning voice is an absolute mess. Flex, you mind, my man, you got to work on that. Gargle. Wake up Listerine. Alarm clock, don't hit snooze.

[Mark]

This record.

[Joe Budden]

His morning voice is not now.

[Flip]

They said that was dropping the bombs. Like, yo, my too.

[Mark]

You can't be dropping bombs.

[Ish]

Yeah, ain't he up there. He giving us mad, mad whole freestyles. And like, yo dog is on their way to work, man.

[Parks]

Archives.

[Ish]

Yeah, it ain't. It ain't just the hip hop Heads.

[Parks]

Up listening, Jay Z.

[Ish]

But again, because they were so far.

[Mark]

Ahead of my time.

[Ish]

He went crazy. Dead summer. He's like, yo dog, people are on their way. It ain't, it ain't, it ain't what you think is going on.

[Flip]

They said he was bomb dropping like crazy at 7 in the morning.

[Ian]

That's some.

[Ish]

I'mma take it easy on him. Pause. But because the report came out, Funk Flex is taking over the time slot. He came out and cleared that up quick. He was like, no, I'm just doing a day.

[Joe Budden]

I don't believe he's just doing a day. He'll be there for the interim until they figure it out.

[Freeze]

He did two days at least.

[Ish]

Rory is reporting. Shout out to Rory that he has.

[Joe Budden]

An inside scoop on who's getting the.

[Ish]

Gig by his words.

[Joe Budden]

No, it's on the Internet, Mark. It's on the Internet, Flip.

[Parks]

No, I'm just saying I like what you. I like that we're not doubting the story.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Parks]

I see how you paved the way for come back.

[Mark]

I was throwing the flip.

[Parks]

You keep the doors open. What's those, what's those doors you push and they go like this.

[Freeze]

Revolving.

[Parks]

Not revolving. The one that you like.

[Ian]

The saloon door.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

See that?

[Joe Budden]

Saloon salon.

[Parks]

Yeah, bro.

[Joe Budden]

You think that every time I do.

[Parks]

I just love what you do.

[Ish]

You body is saying that whoever is.

[Joe Budden]

Getting a gig on in his inside scoop is someone that will, quote, get shaken and has a lot of movement.

[Ian]

Huh.

[Mark]

And had a cult following. Had a.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry. And had a cult following. End quote.

[Parks]

Huh?

[Flip]

That.

[Parks]

This.

[Mark]

The cult following thing.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Mark]

That threw me off the trail cuz.

[Parks]

I was like, there's only a handful of people, right? Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Dr. Umar.

[Ish]

I think more people have a cult.

[Joe Budden]

Following than we realized.

[Parks]

I think a lot of people.

[Joe Budden]

People have co.

[Mark]

Morning. Africans.

[Joe Budden]

I.

[Freeze]

A lot of people got a cult following.

[Joe Budden]

And we talking about in New York City.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Not necessarily though.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Ian]

Relocating.

[Mark]

Oh, that's true.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark]

Let's see.

[Parks]

What.

[Flip]

That ain't work out.

[Freeze]

Well, it did.

[Joe Budden]

Very few people know it. I wonder when it'll be enough.

[Flip]

Very few people survive coming in New York radio.

[Freeze]

Charlemagne relocated and came to New York radio. I'm just saying. You said it ain't working.

[Joe Budden]

That's one night.

[Flip]

Then that worked.

[Joe Budden]

They got Charlemagne name all up in the mix. Boy, they saying a lot.

[Parks]

They are about this. No, just about like radio shake.

[Joe Budden]

Contract renewals. What could be coming? What can't be coming. Yeah. His contract.

[Flip]

I wouldn't discount star.

[Mark]

I would.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Mark]

I mean, let me not say I would. I like Star. I'm just saying love Star. I. I love Star. I think they're just. I think they're going. I think they're going in a younger direction.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't see it.

[Flip]

It's New York City, bro. New York City morning show.

[Freeze]

Yeah, but we talking about a company that don't care.

[Joe Budden]

If you. If you believe that some of that Netanyahu talk and political talk got Ebro off, then you wouldn't bring in a star.

[Freeze]

Yes, you would.

[Mark]

No, you wouldn't. You bringing somebody uncontroversial.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Freeze]

No, you won't.

[Flip]

Yo. Star is smart enough to know what I can and can't talk about. I'm smart enough to know. Know we could talk about and. And hoes all day, but we can't talk about certain other things.

[Freeze]

Shaking and a cult following new company. I see them going younger, yo.

[Flip]

I mean, it's possible. I'm not disputing that.

[Mark]

Did it go? Oh, you think the person from New.

[Ian]

York, he knows who it is?

[Mark]

Oh, you know who it is?

[Ish]

Oh, you know who it is? Oh, tell me. Tell me real quick.

[Joe Budden]

We don't have to put it on. Oh, you don't know.

[Mark]

No, you just know it from New York. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I thought you from New York.

[Ish]

I'm not doing it. All right, well, I can't wait to hear. We're not going to sit around and.

[Joe Budden]

Throw shit at a wall.

[Ish]

When it happens, I'll come in and.

[Joe Budden]

Give you a take about it.

[Ish]

Until then, I'm having a blast with all of the shakeups and removals, the layoffs, the firing merges and acquisitions, all of the business shit going on on a lot happening on the chessboard. I'm having a blast watching it. And that's all I'm saying.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not trying to, like, give off a mean take. Like, I'm just having fun with all the movement, that's all.

[Freeze]

Are we. Do we care about this whole let's rap about it podcast and 50 beef? I won't call it beef, but the back and forth that's going on.

[Flip]

I didn't know they had one.

[Ian]

Me either.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I closed out with what I wanted to close with.

[Freeze]

Oh, okay. Well, then we don't care.

[Flip]

I took classes and paid to learn how to.

[Joe Budden]

How to. How to close things specifically to seamlessly avoid what you just don't even want. Like, here you come, man. And the people. Huh? Really?

[Ian]

I think that's something. A great Patreon.

[Joe Budden]

There you go.

[Freeze]

Patreon brothers.

[Ish]

But, I mean, you can give Your take on it?

[Joe Budden]

Since you brought up.

[Freeze]

No, we taking it to Patreon. I'm going with the group.

[Joe Budden]

There you go. Go with the group, man. That's my man right there.

[Ish]

Listen, man, good broadcast. Real good time again. It's the holidays. Rest in peace to everybody we lost child. Everybody looking to spend some time with their family, their friends, they loved ones.

[Joe Budden]

I'm making my way down south to suit the pants off homeboy. I kick his ass.

[Ish]

Don't you worry. I might not be here next week. Bail me out if I get locked.

[Joe Budden]

Up in the South Carolina jail, huh? I don't give a. I got the bread.

[Ish]

Listen, y' all hold it down out there. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we enjoy being there. Until the next time we bid you a do. Farewell. I adios Cereva diri. Hasta la vista. Au revoir.

[Joe Budden]

So long.

[Ish]

Good bow. A simple head nod will suffice. War is never the answer. Rest in peace, Marvin. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Ego. Whatever else. What else? Last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant. Women want to travel. When the close minded women want you to teach them things, grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. Until next time. Man, I don't know what happened to the Knicks game, but go Knicks. Win or lose, that's how I'm on it. That's how I'm carrying mine, you know what I mean? Y' all got anything interesting happening this week?

[Joe Budden]

Anything?

[Ish]

Anything? Anything, Anything, Anything.

[Joe Budden]

Anything.

[Ish]

Christmas shopping?

[Freeze]

Yeah, it's all Christmas shopping, bro.

[Joe Budden]

That's it.

[Ian]

Lady's hell. Time to get it going.

[Ish]

Yeah, Mara, somebody asked that earlier. I was in my head like, dog, I'm going to TD bank and withdrawing enough. That's I bet for the nieces, my sister, my brothers, the cousin.

[Flip]

Envelopes ain't bad.

[Freeze]

We take envelopes.

[Joe Budden]

That's. Yeah, that's it.

[Flip]

Mad at envelopes.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I'm not mad at that at all.

[Ish]

My dad keep talking about.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I know you're going to bless.

[Ish]

Me like you did last year. I don't remember what happened last year, but I. I don't. I chew. I don't know.

[Parks]

Please.

[Freeze]

I got you though.

[Ish]

That's the problem when the gifts go up is that they can never go back down.

[Mark]

Yes, that, that.

[Joe Budden]

That's the problem.

[Freeze]

Yeah, that'd be a little. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

We'Ll see.

[Ish]

Love you, pop. Shout out to my mom Shout out to my family. All the families everywhere, man. Y' all hold it down till next time. And I'm black, you know I'm letting it rock Ego can't cut off.

[Joe Budden]

What's going on with a minute left?

[Ish]

Are y' all crazy out there? Bo, you might want to set them lights up out there, buddy. You pointing the wrong way. He pointing backward.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

We had a real good pod today, Amani. It was a good energy goodbye to you. I don't know if you could feel it, dude. It was a good time.

[Parks]

How you telling him for?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's my friend, and I speak to him.

[Parks]

I'll be funny while. I mean, I told you about that.

[Joe Budden]

I wasn't trying to be funny with him. You trying to frame it that way. I wasn't trying to.

[Parks]

I'm a framer.

[Joe Budden]

I'mma knock you out. I'm telling you. I can't wait because I see you working out. I want to try it. I want to see. I want to try it. Okay.

[Ish]

That I want to try.

[Ian]

Stop saying so many times.

[Parks]

Yeah, enough.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no. We keep telling y'. All.

[Parks]

No code switching.

[Ish]

What? What?

[Parks]

You're not a Paul. He's the king of PA. All the time. I was in your crib with the. What's my man's name? The Ill White Band with my guys. Jeremy, they were saying a bunch of flavor stuff. We ain't paused them. We just laughed and was drinking beer.

[Ish]

Come on, Paul, let me keep.

[Ian]

You know, the white boys, like, joke about gay, like, all the time.

[Ish]

It's like different culture.

[Ian]

If you say pause, they'll say something even crazier.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, that's true. Then when the show is ending.

[Ian]

Let.

[Parks]

Your voice be the last voice.

[Mark]

Right?

[Parks]

Let your voice be good. I mean, he gotta tell me that y'. All. He gotta overcompensate. Tell me. Check.

[Mark]

I'm up.

[Ish]

Oh, no.

[Parks]

I'm not shooting at my.

[Mark]

You know what it New ice.

[Joe Budden]

Stop playing with my man. Stop playing with my new accounts. All the jobs.

[Parks]

New drop.

[Flip]

Right?

[Joe Budden]

Let me start playing.

[Ish]

We'll fold that up right now.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, oops, sorry. Oops.