Episode 888 | "Digital Gloryhole"

Summary

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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 888 | "Digital Gloryhole"
Released: December 20, 2025
Summary by Sections & Key Topics

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Episode Overview

The crew—Joe Budden, Mona, Parks, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, Ish, Ice, and Freeze—returns for a wide-ranging, raucous discussion framing current events, hip-hop, streaming culture, relationships, and the ever-persistent challenges of adulthood and maturity. The episode is marked by irreverent humor, honest personal takes, and some pointed commentary around music, media, and cultural issues. The show maintains its signature candid, barbershop-meets-living-room flavor—deliberately off-the-cuff, but packed with perspective.

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Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Sellout Accusations & Internet Narratives

[00:32–02:28]

• Joe is called a “sellout” online for picking Jake Paul in a boxing analysis, sparking a debate about what “sellout” really means within the crew:
  • “They called me a sellout ‘cause I picked Jake Paul in my...Netflix. I gave my calculated opinion.” — Joe [01:46]
  • Arguments ensue over public vs. private opinions, Internet narratives, and being transparent on the pod.

2. Food, Diets, & Black Food Culture

[02:53–09:42]

• Discussion veers into dieting and salad eating, poking fun at healthy lifestyles and the realities of Black eating habits:
  • Debates on salad dressing, nutrients (or the lack thereof in “hood salads”), and how food is “so good” when fried:
    • “Food is so good. Oh, my God. Gravy.” — Mona [06:06]
  • Side anecdotes: cooking skills, go-to meals, and the struggle to eat healthy as foodies.

3. Podcast Chemistry, Audience Feedback, & “Shut the F*** Up”

[10:08–12:26]

• Mona and the crew joke about negative comments, self-awareness, and acclimating to group pod dynamics—how sometimes fan engagement is negative but ultimately drives the group closer.
  • “People like, ‘I’m starting to like the bitch, but I just wish she’d shut the fuck up.’”—Mona [10:50]
  • The crew riffs on familial relationships, public arguments, and being transparent with the audience.

4. Nostalgia & Strip Club Lore

[12:40–17:32]

• Nostalgic shoutouts for Sin City, the club scene, and the heyday of Ray Shremmurd and others.
  • “Some of the best food you could get at the strip club. Some of the best times in the Bronx.” — Joe [17:26]

5. “Digital Gloryhole”: Group Chats & DM Culture

[19:38–21:17]

• The crew describes men’s group chats on Instagram as “digital glory holes”—channels where no one talks, only reacts to women’s pics/videos.
  • “It’s like a digital glory hole.” — Ish [20:51]
  • Jokes about camaraderie, low conversation, and the simplicity of men’s communication.

6. Atlanta Rap Peacekeeping & 21 Savage’s Public Tweets

[44:00–55:00]

• Deep dive into 21 Savage’s viral tweets—calls for peace among Atlanta rappers, airing of past issues, and asserting his peace-broker role.
  • Notable quotes:
    • “‘Y’all knew Gunna wasn’t no gangster when he told the first time. We swept it under the rug for you.’” — 21 Savage tweet, read by Ish [46:41]
  • The team celebrates realness, accountability, transparency, and “standing on business”; ponders whether the tweets are for album promo or genuine.

7. Aiden Ross, Streaming Culture, & Racism Online

[61:00–67:56]

• Joe and Mona blast streamer Aiden Ross for setting up NFL player Puka Nacua with an antisemitic touchdown dance.
  • Strong condemnation of white streamers exploiting/infiltrating Black culture for clout, and the growing normalization of bigotry in online communities.
  • “He benefited off black stuff, black culture...as soon as he got on, he starts showing what he was really on: just being open with just being a fucking racist.” — Mona [64:25]
  • Warnings about streamer culture’s production practices, live chaos, and the importance of artist vigilance.

8. NBA: Knicks Cup Win, Strip Club Food, Playoff Hopes

[85:00–92:47]

• Joe and crew break down the Knicks winning the NBA Cup, what it means for fans, and the organization’s decision to not hang a banner.
  • Related debates: celebrating non-championship wins, sports “curses,” and the uniqueness of Knicks fandom.
  • “Congratulations. Thinking finals or bust.” — Joe [92:16]

9. Irreverent Banter: Underwear & Domesticity

[73:21–77:19]

• The gang roast Mark for owning emergency “grandpa boxers,” holding onto socks with holes, and disagreeing about laundry habits post-marriage.

10. Holiday Gifting Approaches

[77:27–79:38]

• Holiday shopping talk, with debates over whether paying a partner’s debt counts as a “tacky” Christmas gift.
  • “I would just pay the bill.” — Joe [78:42]

11. Charlemagne’s $200M Deal, Network Legacy, & Black Media

[104:48–118:18]

• Celebration and analysis of Charlamagne’s 5-year, $200M renewal/expansion with iHeart and The Black Effect Podcast Network.
  • “How do you see it and not be inspired?...You don’t have to subscribe to another man's blueprint. You can do things, a plethora of ways, and end up with this life-changing, lineage-changing money.” — Joe [113:14]
  • Broader implications for Black media, creator value, and “disruptor wins”; Netflix’s new role as a content power player.

12. Public Proposals, Relationship Real Talk, & Gender Dynamics

[25:16–36:43]

• Crew dissects Young Thug’s public proposal, whether public proposals are manipulative, and personal experiences with marriages and proposals.
  • “Public proposals in general are manipulative.”—Marc [28:18]
  • Journey into personal relationship philosophies, happiness vs. legal status, and Black love.

13. Ice Spice’s “See-Through” Outfit for Nickelodeon Kids' Event

[38:04–41:54]

• Panel splits over whether Ice Spice’s fashion choice at a child-centric event was empowering, inappropriate, or just “outragebait.”
  • “You look nuts going to Nickelodeon with that shit on.”—Ice [42:03]

14. Homophobia & Use of “Pause” in Black Male Spaces

[207:33–213:03]

• A powerful listener letter from a Black gay man prompts deep reflection about “Pause” jokes and casual homophobia’s impact.
  • “When will words like pause stop being necessary...when will the love you have for your brothers, including your gay brothers, be enough to let those habits go?”
  • The group largely agrees it’s time to change: “We should stop it.” — Joe [211:39]
  • Mona and others acknowledge growth and the responsibility to make all listeners feel embraced, not just tolerated.

15. TyLIL Streaming Allegations & the Dangers of Cancel Culture

[181:43–189:54]

• The false sexual assault allegations against streamer TyLeel are discussed in detail.
  • Joe and Ish lament the permanent damage such claims can cause, and the pressure on young, successful Black men:
  • “His life is altered, no matter what.” — Joe [184:48]
  • The group calls for evidence and fairness, but reiterates the importance of accountability for false claims.

16. Chris Paul’s Party Flop & Clippers Team Dynamics

[168:06–169:52]

• Chris Paul throws a team party—nobody comes. The story becomes a metaphor for leadership, popularity, and “fit” in sports.
  • “Everybody that throws shit, that’s your worst fear: nobody comes when you’re throwing something.” — Mona [169:18]

17. Miscellaneous: Media Rumors, White Woman Lawsuits, True Crime & TV

• Discussion about Charlamagne’s and Joe’s alleged new job deals [127:39–130:44].
• Absurd lawsuit where a white woman wins damages for not being allowed to portray Black icons on stage [162:49–164:07].
• Various pop culture moments, mistakes, and regrettable TV appearances round out the laughs.

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Notable Quotes & Signature Moments

• On public homophobia:
  “That’s the stuff that creates distance, even when it’s not intentional.” — Listener Letter [208:30]
• On Black business/media legacy:
  “We prayed that people at this level would start to share what they make...Now you can look to the top and say that’s what it’s supposed to look like.” — Joe [117:46]
• On relationships and marriage:
  “Happiness in my relationship is the priority.”—Ish [33:38]
• On digital group chats:
  “It’s like a digital glory hole.”—Ish [20:51]
• On streamer culture’s dark side:
  “He benefited off Black stuff...as soon as he got on, he starts showing what he was really on: just being open with just being a fucking racist.” — Mona [64:25]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Sellouts, narratives & boxing: [00:29–02:28]
• Food, diets & cooking: [02:53–09:42]
• Podcast chemistry/fan comments: [10:08–12:26]
• Nostalgia & strip club lore: [12:40–17:32]
• Group chats/"digital gloryhole": [19:38–21:17]
• 21 Savage/Atlanta peacekeeping: [44:00–55:00]
• Streamer culture & racism: [61:00–67:56]
• Knicks Cup win & NBA banter: [85:00–92:47]
• Underwear and domesticity: [73:21–77:19]
• Holiday gifts & relationships: [77:27–79:38]
• Charlamagne's $200M deal: [104:48–118:18]
• Public proposals & marriage: [25:16–36:43]
• Ice Spice/Nickelodeon fashion: [38:04–41:54]
• Homophobia & pause culture: [207:33–213:03]
• TyLIL streamer allegations: [181:43–189:54]
• Chris Paul's team party: [168:06–169:52]

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Final Words / Endnote

After over three hours of smart, wild, and energetic interplay, the crew reminds listeners they’ll be taking a break for the holidays—closing with thoughts on the fragility of life, self-care, and the power of community. Rest in peace, Angela Yee’s brother; check on your health, and take nothing for granted.

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For Listeners:
This episode shows why JBP remains a touchstone for freewheeling, culturally literate, and unfiltered conversation—not afraid to roast each other, reflect, or challenge their own assumptions. Whether you’re here for hip-hop takes, culture war commentary, or barbershop-level banter, Episode 888 delivers.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

Address it.

[C]

I just thought about what he said. I'm like, wait a minute.

[D]

That's exactly what he did.

[A]

I know that Freeze. I know that Freeze has it out for me. No, I don't like that.

[C]

Stop with the narrative. No, I don't have it out for me. I love everybody up here, and I just want to have a great pod. I don't have it out for anybody. You're not doing that.

[A]

Nope. But when you lead with what you was leading with.

[C]

I didn't lead. I replied to you because I heard what you said. I'm on my phone.

[A]

I said the Internet was calling me a sellout. Right?

[C]

And then you said, that's not what sellout means. And I'm like, well, yes, it does.

[A]

Well, first of all, I was talking to Parks. First of all, I was talking to Parks.

[C]

You said it out loud.

[A]

But Parks called me and sell out, too.

[B]

I did? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And I said, well, and I want it. And I said, that's not what sellout means. But no point in fighting it. And then Barks agreed. And that should have been the end, but.

[C]

But that is what sellout means.

[A]

What does sellout mean?

[D]

Why they called you a sellout?

[B]

Let's see if you're a sellout for real. Let's see. Let's see. This is the real test of sellout.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

Let's go, big dog.

[A]

They called me a sellout. Cause I picked Jake Paul in my. In my. In my. In my Netflix, I gave my calculated.

[C]

Opinion on what I thought the outcome of the game would be.

[D]

This is boxing analysis.

[C]

No, no, it's calculated. That's not why I called you shot.

[A]

Oh, why?

[C]

Because what you said before the camera cut on about the same fight.

[A]

Oh, this nigga rat.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

This nice little vicious right here. That's right.

[C]

Yes. I didn't say what he said.

[D]

Ain't but two things you can say.

[A]

Wow, it's a 50. 50 ball. We know what's up, right? Wow. You took it there.

[D]

You said he took it further.

[C]

You could have just left me alone when I was there.

[A]

I don't. But I did have to bring it to air.

[C]

I ain't say he shot him, yo. I didn't say he shot him, right?

[D]

I'm just saying he said he didn't shoot him.

[C]

I'm saying I.

[D]

And he lying early, right?

[C]

I'm just saying his ear was messed up.

[A]

After he had a gun, he said.

[C]

His ear was ringing for a week.

[A]

Oh, man. I'm here in peace.

[C]

Me too.

[A]

I'm here in peace. Thank you. I'm so tired of ordering salad. I've been eating salad all week.

[B]

Oh, damn.

[A]

I know it's bad because I take the thing and do it like cereal to my mouth. I do it.

[C]

Get the dressing.

[A]

The dressing.

[D]

What kind of dressing?

[A]

It be dressing?

[B]

That's a good question.

[A]

It was white balsamic yesterday.

[C]

But you got to stop with the dressing.

[E]

But, Lisa, a vinegarette.

[B]

You want a V to eat pl.

[A]

Salad? Listen, hold on. I'm not dog. I'm not Bugs Bunny. I'm not doing it.

[E]

When we first talked about it, I'm like, Joe, like, what kind of dress are you going to use? He like, the good ones, ranch. I'm like, when you supposed to do vinaigrettes? Or, like, homemade olive oil, lemon juice? Like, I'm already eating a salad. I'm not.

[C]

Word steps. My.

[A]

Let us get it.

[E]

This is the worst part, though, the dressing. If you're going to eat a salad with the wrong dressing, you might as either bowl of cereal.

[C]

She's right.

[A]

I get. She's not right.

[D]

I get.

[C]

Let me tell you what I order.

[E]

It's so much sugar in dressing and, like, stuff. Interesting.

[C]

Give me ranch dressing with a side of salad.

[B]

There's still nutrients in the salad that wouldn't be in cereal and fiber.

[A]

And you've been wrong about, like, that pubic hair, so you'd be wrong.

[B]

Yo, you got pubic hairs all wrong.

[E]

If a person eats a salad and let's say they don't use romaine, let's say they use iceberg, right? And they throw a drink like a hood salad, right? That's. It's nothing. You're not getting nutrients out of there. You're just drinking a cup of sugar with your dressing. Now, if you have Kennywise in your salad and romaine lamb.

[A]

Slow it back down, Kenny.

[D]

Wah. First time you said, I ain't know.

[C]

Who you are, Kenny.

[D]

And rye, you said. The second time, I ain't know.

[E]

These niggas don't know because they eat croutons. Jim.

[B]

Croutons are good.

[C]

Well, you can't have croutons in your salad either.

[E]

No, Big ass bread sticks in your salad. Why ice. Why are we doing that?

[C]

Watch. Watch this salad I eat after we.

[E]

I already type of salad. You eat the ones from Instagram with all the fried chicken and on it. It's not a salad.

[A]

Now that's not really a salad.

[E]

Like, that's not a salad.

[B]

Fried chicken on the salad is a little.

[A]

When you get sad, that's where they trick you when you start adding all this.

[B]

That's an Applebee salad. Yeah.

[C]

Watch this salad.

[E]

Fried chicken. Fried shrimp. I see salads with fried chicken. Fried shrimp. Real on Instagram.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Like Instagram salads are good.

[A]

I'm sick of it. My stomach's sitting here growling right now.

[E]

Boy, I know you hungry. Salads all day. What was your favorite salad this week?

[A]

It been the same salad.

[D]

Is it protein in your salad?

[A]

I'm not killing it.

[D]

Like, what proteins you put like shrimp.

[A]

Shrimp.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Some shrimp, man. This is for the birds. Being fat is the wave.

[E]

It's so fun.

[A]

All of that discipline and eating right and watching the carbs. Calories.

[B]

Yeah, you should still eat a little bit of carbs.

[A]

Portion control and water all day.

[C]

That's the hardest part for me. Portion control.

[B]

That's. That's what it really is. The Porsche control is really this.

[A]

Then they want you to add the energy to get up out of bed and go work out. It's like, I ain't eat in two weeks. We talking about it. I know.

[C]

Energy.

[A]

They want me to go. Go to the smoothie store.

[C]

Yeah, that'll do.

[A]

Lames.

[E]

Gross. And then it takes a lot of that. Tastes like vacuum dirt. You know what I mean?

[C]

Eat them bowls that Cory be eating that shit.

[E]

It don't even look appealing.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Food is so good.

[E]

Oh, my God. Gravy.

[C]

Especially when you fry it.

[E]

I could parks. I could eat gravy.

[C]

Said gravy, gravy, Gravy.

[D]

Yo, that is some fat people. Out of all the food to think about.

[C]

You just like.

[E]

Good, though.

[A]

Oh, we can't tell.

[E]

You know what's coming.

[A]

That's why Na look like she can make gravy.

[C]

Mona look like she could cook.

[A]

I could go feel like she made gravy in a barrel.

[D]

You can't tell. It ain't been a plate up here. Ain't been a grain of rice at all.

[C]

Said the Mac and cheese ain't. That's cool. She keeps saying next Friday too.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Never. I've never seen.

[C]

No. How about you just cook?

[E]

I think I should just Cook. I don't want to eat the y' all come up with.

[A]

Wow. Damn. Y' all cook.

[E]

Who cooks here?

[D]

I cook.

[C]

Parks is a chef.

[E]

I know. Mark cooks for the house. He's the one that cooks at the house.

[D]

And Parks is a good cook. I'm a. I'm an average cook. He's a good cook.

[B]

I enjoy cooking.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Your wife should be eating your.

[E]

Hey.

[D]

I'm glad you asked. It was my birthday.

[B]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Happy birthday, Mark. Happy birthday.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you.

[E]

Damn, bro.

[D]

What did that guy know?

[A]

What? Your wife eating your food, bro.

[C]

You ain't say food.

[D]

You ain't say, here's my spot.

[C]

I'm. It's your wife.

[A]

I don't even play with people family like that.

[D]

Yeah, my wife eats my. My food every day, and she likes it. Oh, I'm a good. I'm not bad at.

[A]

What you in there making every day.

[E]

Yeah. What's your go to meal?

[D]

Different stuff. This old go to meal. That's what I don't got, like, a go to.

[E]

I have a go to meal, but.

[D]

I do do, like, a lot of.

[B]

A go to meal that I cook.

[E]

On a regular basis.

[D]

What's that?

[E]

Fried chicken.

[D]

Fried chicken?

[E]

Yeah, fried chicken. Cheese, yams, collard. That's like my. I cook that the fastest.

[D]

Her go to meal is Thanksgiving.

[C]

We got a plate.

[A]

I would say it.

[E]

I like. I like.

[C]

So sound like Loretta Devine on the aisle.

[E]

Is he watching me walk away? What's your go to meal? Like, what do you cook the most for him?

[D]

I mean, I do a lot of sea. I do a lot of seafood stuff. You know what I mean? Just because we try to be healthy.

[A]

What else?

[C]

So what's your go to meal?

[D]

I don't have a single go to meal. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Mark ain't in there cooking. Mark is sitting in line. No, Mark is sitting there lying right now.

[D]

No, I cook, like, almost every.

[C]

All right, so what you made yesterday?

[A]

You said seafood a go to wheel.

[B]

Sounds weird. Like, I'm not making the same plate every day.

[D]

I feel like I could have bumped it.

[A]

I didn't ask him his go to meal.

[D]

Yes, yes.

[A]

I asked him what he's in there cooking.

[D]

Okay. Yesterday I made shrimp scampi. The day before that, I made just a baked salmon Alfredo. The day before, Not Alfredo, like a chicken head, Not Alfredo.

[A]

Hold up.

[E]

Salmon. What were the size of the baked salmon?

[D]

Asparagus and sweet potato. Mashed sweet potatoes.

[E]

Okay. You mashed them.

[A]

He cook like the jail Muslim cult chef.

[C]

So.

[B]

And if it's good.

[C]

Hey, yo, my salmon with mashed sweet potatoes and a meal, right?

[D]

It could be good and it could.

[B]

Be bad, too, but it could be good.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Depends on how you make it.

[C]

Yeah, fam. I'm with that. I could eat that four days a week. Dead ass. I could eat the same shit, though. Everybody can't do that.

[D]

I'm the same way. I would eat crab cakes every day. I make crab cakes a lot. I would. Just for me, because my wife get tired of them. I eat them shits every day. I have no problem.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. That's gonna be hard for you.

[A]

Well, it's gonna be hard for me because you.

[C]

You're a foodie. So when you really trying to lose weight, a lot of that shit be just the same bullshit over and over and over again, and that shit become annoying.

[A]

I would really want to pour into that. On the Jack LaLanne podcast, Billy Blanks.

[C]

Started a conversation about shut the stupid ass dumbass.

[A]

That's up. That's up. All right. Come on, let's have some fun. Are you good?

[E]

I'm great.

[A]

All right, good.

[E]

I'm great.

[C]

Got some inspo.

[E]

I've been reading the comments, and I got bad news, guys.

[B]

What'd you come up with?

[E]

These people want me to shut the.

[A]

Fuck up.

[E]

And I'm gonna work on it. Is. You know.

[A]

Is that what they said?

[E]

They said, did your boss tell you.

[C]

Shut the fuck up?

[E]

He tells me with his eyes on a regular basis.

[C]

Oh, all right.

[E]

Last week, he played a little clip from Pass the fucking Ball. That was the dude, you know, I didn't realize it till I rewatched. You know, I thought it was for everybody. It was for me, you know, sitting right next to the. He plays something directed at me, you know, but no, it's like, you know, I'm just gonna work on it.

[D]

They love you, though. Don't. Don't get it up.

[A]

And I love you.

[E]

It's. I love you too. You know, when you read stuff, is it the negative? I don't know why it's like that. Like the negative stuff capture. I feel like they getting used to me, but for the most part, I think they want me to shut, like, literally. People like, I'm starting to like the bitch, but I just wish she shut the fuck up.

[D]

Do you see the irony with this moment right now?

[A]

Mark is an absolute. Mark is an absolute special.

[D]

We all.

[A]

All right, God damn it.

[D]

Wife argue Every day.

[E]

Every day.

[A]

It don't be no blowout.

[E]

But Every day we stop and square and be like, all right, what's it gonna be?

[C]

You want this smoke or what?

[A]

And that's her talking to me every day.

[C]

I'm afraid of her.

[A]

We argue.

[E]

Me and my wife argue, how long we've been together.

[D]

We will argue in front of you talking about you.

[E]

And we don't give a fuck that you there. Did you ever be out with a couple and they be arguing and you'll be like, oh, this is getting personal. Shit, go. I'm like, I told you I didn't.

[D]

Want to fucking eat with them.

[E]

But you got me out here, so fuck it, Julie, let's eat.

[A]

That's it.

[E]

We argue because we know you can't just be. We've been in this house too long. We've been together too long. Me and my wife have been together long enough that we both agree that we both do not equally give a fuck what the other person is talking about. You know, how long you gotta be married to agree? I was talking to her the other day, and in the middle of my.

[C]

Speech, she just walked the fuck out the way.

[A]

She didn't make no announcements. She just walked on.

[D]

And I wasn't offended.

[A]

I was like, that's about right.

[D]

She should have left. 10 minutes.

[A]

Ray Sherman. I miss y' all niggas, man.

[E]

I do.

[A]

Good times when y' all was outside.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

I hated that mannequin challenge, though. That was fun. That was fun for a week.

[B]

It was fun for a week, but they dragged it.

[C]

I hated it.

[E]

We gotta do one.

[A]

The whole club would freeze.

[D]

It was funny.

[E]

It was so fun for a little bit.

[D]

Young boy living like an old piece.

[A]

Make shake, make shake 1, 2, 1.

[D]

2 frat girl still trying to get.

[E]

In Haters mad for whatever reason.

[A]

Shout out to wherever you might be listening from all the patronies and subgroups.

[D]

Out there yes, sir, there is nothing to explain Black Beatle cream seats in the regal Rocking giant linen lenses like.

[A]

To see him Red Eagle took a.

[D]

Bitch to the club and let a.

[E]

Party on the table Screaming everybody's famous.

[A]

Whole New Jersey was popping out there New York City, what up, Philly? What up out there?

[E]

You know how I get too late.

[A]

When I turn it on. All wait for the ladies Always for.

[D]

The ladies Everybody traveling right now Happy.

[A]

Holidays to you I might tell a girl you puke about Unless you.

[E]

Know who.

[A]

Wake it up out there. Nah, they wasn't here for this, man. They wasn't. They wasn't in Sin City when this was out. They wasn't on Molly when this was out. If you a real with hipster bitches that shopping links light skinned Asian and white women.

[D]

Let's go.

[C]

This one for my niggas.

[A]

Don't tell me who.

[D]

Tell it.

[C]

This one for them colleges, them bad hoes.

[E]

That's.

[A]

Go ahead now, go ahead now.

[E]

Instagram straight flexing.

[D]

Hey, I'm sweating.

[E]

Oh, pap the Miley.

[A]

I'm sweating. Mama always told me, boy, count your blessings. Mark, this wasn't lit in the. In the doctor World.

[B]

Nah, Ishmark started to get into it when he said Spelman.

[A]

Ishtar. Mark wasn't here for this, man.

[B]

That's a good little song.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

What? What a time.

[B]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

Yeah. What a time to be alive. Shout out to everybody that was in Sin City back in those days, man. Some of the best foods you could get at the strip club. Some of the best times in the Bronx, man. Really good times.

[B]

It was good times.

[A]

The plus, going for the best crew in the world right quick. Oh, that felt. And Mona. Mona. Big Mona is here. Talking less, talking less, smiling more. Huh? What episode is this?

[D]

888.

[A]

Welcome to episode 888 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. Yeah, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right, Big Mona. Don't call her white. Girl is in the building. Philly's finest. Philly's other finest. To her right, our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. In the building. Next to him, we got our good brother ish, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. Our good brother Freeze is in the building. Huh? Big Freeze. Stop playing with him. Hey, quick question before we introduce parts.

[B]

Didn't get the gray memo.

[A]

I mean, how long y' all gonna do this? You and you and Freezing Antoine, Y'.

[B]

All in sync, boy?

[D]

No, seriously, y' all talk on the way in.

[A]

Or like, honestly, like, it's not playing.

[C]

Y' all had whole different clothes. My. I just couldn't find one of my boots. That's how shit be going.

[A]

So I.

[B]

Hurry up. So you texted.

[A]

Ice threw this shit on.

[C]

I threw this shit on.

[A]

Freeze and Ish are dressed alike again. Again.

[B]

It happens a lot.

[A]

They keep doing it.

[B]

I think it's cool.

[A]

I mean, I don't mind it.

[B]

I think it's pretty cool. Solidarity.

[A]

Who took the lead on this one, though?

[C]

Parks in the building. Shout out to parks.

[A]

Nah, Park's in the building. Who took the lead on this one, whose idea was. Was Gray sweat day.

[C]

Paul was in the building.

[A]

And that's gay, too, to come up with that.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Did y' all girls wait.

[D]

Gray sweats.

[C]

Corey's in the building.

[B]

We're coming in printing today.

[A]

Corey Poe. Erickson.

[C]

Erickson in the back.

[A]

The print boys. The print boys. That was crazy. Why y' all being modest now? Don't wear gray sweats and be modest.

[C]

Yo, my nigga, you think I'm calling another man like, yo, what you wearing to work, my nigga?

[B]

Let's print on him.

[A]

Yeah, you either doing that or answering the phone or text or the Monstars chat. Like, there's a few vehicles you could be using. What's up?

[C]

Ain't no in the Monstars.

[A]

There's no in the Monstars chat. All baddies.

[D]

Wait, I thought you were talking to dudes about baddies.

[C]

If he don't talk, you just post.

[E]

Shoo.

[D]

He said shoo.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Okay, but that's a nigga sending that.

[D]

Yeah, but ain't nobody in there like.

[C]

Yo, what you wearing to work?

[A]

You know what I'm saying? What's up?

[C]

So what you went to.

[B]

So y. Y' all don't comment, don't double tap a picture or nothing. It's just.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Post and go a fire in there or something. But there don't be no conversations. That a. It ain't for that at all.

[D]

It's like a digital glory hole.

[B]

Looks.

[E]

Crazy.

[B]

Digital glory holes. That was like, did a little bit peep show at least.

[C]

Yeah, go all in my channel.

[A]

This guy's crazy, bro.

[C]

Move along, man. Yeah, go ahead, man.

[A]

But it's so tough to introduce the.

[C]

Rest of the cast so we can get started, man.

[A]

But why you don't just hit the.

[C]

Like, I'm in a. I'm in a relationship.

[B]

That's true.

[E]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Okay. All right, all right, all right.

[D]

How's everybody doing?

[A]

Feeling great, man.

[C]

How you feeling? Great, great, great.

[B]

How was your birthday?

[D]

It was good. I didn't do anything. It was actually, like, the most laid back birthday I ever had. 47 is real unremarkable. So I just stayed at home. I literally want to finish a book, like, writing one. So I was like, I've been delayed. So I said, I'm just going. I took some vitamins.

[E]

This nigga Mark talk heavy. I'm sorry to cut you off. I wanted to finish a book. Like, writing one. Not reading. Like. Not reading like you losers do. I'm writing another one.

[D]

It's Dumb late. So I was like. I just took my vitamins and I just sat there for eight hours. I didn't have to pick up my kids, anything like that. They did all that for me. And I just got work done. My wife took me to dinner, which was great.

[B]

That's nice.

[D]

My son made a little card for me. Aw, it was terrible. He really phoned it in. I mean, this motherfucker, man.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

All week.

[A]

He mailed it in this year.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. For real, man. I was a real lackluster. You know what I mean? I'm starting to question his talent, but, you know, I think it's crazy. I'll put in the drawer.

[A]

No, we telling the truth about the tickets.

[D]

Yeah. Raise the bar.

[A]

Is that.

[E]

You do the cake.

[D]

No, I don't do all that. I really don't celebrate my birthday. I'm real low key.

[B]

This was. You posted yourself on Instagram? You celebrated your birthday?

[D]

No, no. So what I do is I always post it the day after as a passive aggressive move against people who forgot it. That's why I posted. Yeah.

[C]

You're really a petty. That's some chick shit.

[A]

Yeah. You're different.

[C]

I want to let y' all know y' all forgot my birthday.

[D]

Yeah, my brother and my mom, they learned their lesson this year.

[A]

Oh, my. Your mom should get a pass.

[B]

Your mom can look at this, yo.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[D]

My mother.

[E]

My black mother parts.

[D]

Today. Got a Braille Instagram.

[A]

They start forgetting. They do be. They start forgetting.

[D]

Nah, she forgot. It's okay.

[A]

I don't care.

[D]

My brother from jail called me, which is great. That's the one I. The one who's fully free with a phone and a calendar. She ain't got no.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, no, but it was a good. It was a good laid back, low key, low key, low key situation.

[B]

That's good. I'm glad you had a good birthday.

[C]

I'm glad you enjoyed it, man. 47 is uneventful.

[D]

I'm just saying, like, 50 if you're 45th. No. I guess this is my Carolinko year. Like, no, there's nothing about 47 that's, like, special.

[A]

That's not true at all.

[C]

That mindset got gone.

[A]

Don't even speak like that. It sounds crazy. Adrian, tomorrow's not promised.

[C]

Motherfucker that died at 46 would have loved 47.

[A]

No time on earth is promised. You do yourself a huge mistake putting something off thinking that you'll be here. I ain't trying to start heavy like that, but 47 is accomplishment. Every year.

[C]

Every year.

[D]

That's a good point. Y' all not wrong. I mean, next year, I'll do a big 48. I'll do it up big for 48.

[A]

Write two books, right? Exactly.

[D]

This play, Too much book and an essay.

[A]

Going crazy. 50 got to go crazy, man. Got to 50 years old. Not 50 cent.

[D]

Yeah, I know what you mean. He clean it up, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Better be safe.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[D]

The issue. You up? You up next?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

50 gotta go crazy. Remember all that? All that 9 you was doing with the black man. And the next. You know, nothing is promised all that. Yeah.

[C]

It ain't promised. I'm. I'll be happy and grateful and blessed to see 50 years old. Inshallah. I mean, that's it. They got another one.

[D]

We got you.

[A]

All right, well, where y' all want to start?

[D]

Well, of course, we got congratulations. That are in order. Young Thug and Mariah, apparently are getting married. Hey, Love wins.

[A]

Love wins. Come on, man. Round of applause. Love wins again.

[D]

In one of the most romantic scenes I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

I almost shed a tear.

[D]

I shed a tear, man. On the stage, there was some whispering, there was some movement. Mono. Why you looking like that?

[E]

I'm just listening to you fellas.

[D]

You ain't like it.

[E]

I mean, you know. Nah, I didn't really like it, you know, he's rich. They rich. You know what I mean? So it's like, God damn, bro.

[D]

The ring was nice.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, the ring was it. They been through a lot publicly, so it's like. I feel like I thought that was coming, but I just probably just assumed Thug would do it a little bigger, you know what I mean?

[B]

How bigger do you get The.

[D]

It was like 50,000 people.

[E]

Nothing crazy. Just like fireworks, maybe a plane chartered across the street, saying, shit. Cheerleader, drummer, band. You know, them Southern schools and they come up.

[D]

Morris Brown Marching Band.

[E]

Morris Brown. Nothing crazy. Maybe Little Maxwell singing on the side. You know what I mean? Little Pretty Wings.

[C]

Oh, pretty Wings.

[E]

Come on, bro.

[D]

No, that's a breakup song.

[E]

It don't matter. Come on, bro, Please. But, yeah, I just. I don't know. It just seemed a little like a snooze. Like, the way he did it is like, why do that on stage like that? You know what I mean? If you do it in front of people, let's do it.

[D]

Well, that's the first question, like. Cause it was in front of stage. For those that didn't see it, it was a concert. Lot of energy. People were excited. He Got down on one knee, he whispered some shit. I couldn't exactly make out. And then at some point she got up and said, I guess we getting married.

[C]

Yeah. Said it on the screen.

[A]

Will you marry me?

[C]

And all that.

[D]

Will you marry me? Right?

[E]

Yeah, I guess we get married.

[D]

No, she's excited about it. I'm not. No shade with them on that. I'm sure they're happy. Love wins.

[E]

Mariah always seem like she tired anyway. She always seems like she need a nap. You know what I mean? That's no shade to her. I like her shit. But she's very like, yeah, yes, I know. I. You know what I mean? So she already sleepy. You know what I mean? You should have did it in the morning. When that get a little.

[C]

Got a little more.

[E]

If you ask the woman, like a.

[A]

What's today?

[E]

Vibe, like, if y' all asked a woman to marry you and the first thing she did was turn around to the crowd and say, I guess we getting married. Would you be happy with that? I guess. I guess we can. Mad.

[D]

I wouldn't propose in front of a crowd, so that's hard for me.

[C]

I wouldn't feel no type of way.

[E]

You wouldn't.

[C]

If I don't know for sure she at that place with me, I might propose in front of a crowd.

[D]

See, that's why this.

[C]

Like, y' all act like y' all don't see the nigga play here.

[D]

I do.

[C]

There's a nigga play here.

[E]

What's the nigga play? Tell me.

[C]

Pressure.

[E]

It's like you, you, you. Too much pressure to say no against all them people.

[D]

Yes.

[E]

Some bitches that do it a lot don't say no in front of millions.

[D]

A lot of people. Stage is a problem, but I don't.

[E]

Some bitches would do that.

[D]

So is that because a lot of people say public proposals in general are manipulative.

[A]

I feel like it's so I want to have.

[B]

You're the perfect person to chime in here as a public.

[A]

I'm so confounded on this topic because been there, done that. So there's so much fun to be had with this topic. But I feel like it's tacky.

[C]

It is.

[A]

I feel like it's tacky however people propose and how they want to propose. And as long as Mariah's happy, let me do all the PC shit. Right? Like, that lady probably wanted a ring for sure and.

[C]

And not to stay.

[A]

She probably really is super in love with him. She is, you know, for sure. Relationships go through things we've seen some of them things. Some of those things play out in the public break from my politically correct rant right now. Real niggas knew that this ring was coming when them phone calls leaked. I mean, he a few months late, bro. Actually, the way them tapes was coming.

[C]

Out, I was just about to say that, like, yo, my nigga, she deserved that ring. You know, the shit she probably has had to endure. We only know a teeny bit. Probably.

[B]

We know a lot. But.

[A]

It'S tough for me to have all the fun on this topic that it probably deserves, because I'm sure that they both really excited about that.

[E]

Well, excuse me, since you don't wanna have no fun. What I'm saying to y' all is, I'm with you and a lot of her. You know, I feel like a lot of her supporters don't really like that relationship that much. Like, I feel like they want what they think is more for her, which I hate. Cause people don't know.

[C]

Yeah, I can't stand when people do that.

[E]

Right. But I'll say that I just, like, I don't wanna, as a woman, Like, I hate the fact that it's like, I deserve it. Like, you asking me because I didn't been through this and we made it through this, and I was a soldier through this. I want you to really want to be my husband. Right. God forbid you just want to be with me for the rest of my life versus I the cousin, man. And you know, they dropped tapes.

[C]

What the two things could be in conjunction. No. Like, yo, dog, anybody that you get out there, I don't think nobody deserves it.

[E]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[A]

So if.

[C]

If. If whether I got caught doing some bullshit. Let's just say fuck the bullshit. All negative stuff aside, when you get out and propose, you feel like your wife is deserving of it. No, I mean to you. And you, when you propose to your wife, you feel like, yo, my wife deserves my utmost. Of course. You know what I'm saying? That's what you're doing.

[E]

It's a difference in every man in here knowing that nigga was about to ask because of the embarrassment he put her through, then him really wanting to marry her. And that's been a thing. Everybody in here seen it coming. So, yes, it's safe to assume that he did it because of embarrassment.

[C]

That's why he could have really wanted to marry her and just been on some procrastination shit or just like.

[B]

I mean, he was in jail for.

[C]

A while and Life might have been.

[E]

But she did a bit with him.

[C]

And then you start to real. Like I said, he could have already wanted to marry her. But then you get a different level of appreciation once you see. Oh, shit, this is my rider right here.

[D]

She'll put up with this.

[C]

See, I'm trying.

[E]

No bullshit. I really.

[A]

We can't discredit the she's gonna put up, right?

[C]

You're right. But I think when you go sit down. He was sitting down for two years. Looking at life in prison. I think it just adds perspective to some of the shit. Like, yo, I don't gotta be outside doing some of this dumb shit. Like, yo, it's more important things in the real world. And she was one of them.

[E]

I feel that way.

[C]

I think that's fire, my nigga.

[A]

I think it's fire too.

[C]

Me too.

[D]

Love wins.

[A]

Privately, I don't make jokes, but I'm too classy. I'm too classy to do that publicly. Mona up here, like, telling the truth about you. But you a girl. You can get away with certain.

[E]

Yeah, and sometimes I don't. But I don't give a either day. What I'm saying is, is that.

[D]

Have you ever been proposed to?

[E]

Yes, I have. We've had this conversation.

[D]

Was it public? Private? That's the part I was trying to get to, private. I mean, I'm asking because I always want to know what women think about, like, the big spectacle.

[E]

I got proposed to twice. One time, a guy just threw the ring on the bed and was like, here, bro.

[B]

You said, bro?

[E]

Yeah, something like that. Like, here, bro. And I remember I had like a. Like a stomach virus or something. Like, it was nauseous and I think we had plants. They canceled. He was like, look, bro, you too sick to go out. Like, bro, here. I was like, thanks.

[D]

Romance.

[E]

Yeah. You feel me? The other time, you know what was out when I got proposed to put a ring on. If you like it, then you should have put a ring on it. That was out.

[A]

Oh, that was mad.

[E]

And he played that song. Yeah. I was young.

[B]

Did it work?

[A]

That was using the army.

[D]

Did either of them work?

[E]

Oh, yeah, I didn't. We didn't go. That's Sea Parks, Hood marriages. A ring and a tattoo. You never actually get married. I get the ring, but yeah, it was whack. It was corny, both of them, but it was still, you know, it was cute, I guess. You get. You get a little piece of jewelry, you know.

[B]

Did you keep it? You still wear them?

[E]

No, no, no. They yucky after you break up, it's like him, you know?

[D]

Ish. When you think about. Have you ever posed anybody? When you.

[E]

Damn.

[D]

After you put it in 50 years.

[E]

Let's lean in on that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Let's stay there.

[E]

How did you do not propose to nobody.

[C]

You don't have to lean in on it.

[A]

But why haven't you?

[E]

Hey, what is the reason?

[C]

No reason.

[E]

Do you want to be married?

[C]

I don't mind it. It's cool.

[E]

It's the coolest in America.

[C]

I mean, I could do it. I could do it. I could do it about it. It's really up to my girl.

[A]

Whatever.

[E]

So it's not like a go.

[C]

It's not.

[E]

And see, that is up to my girl.

[C]

I hate that it's not a priority like that. I think happiness in my relationship is the priority.

[E]

Yeah, it's.

[A]

But okay, you can tell he. He had.

[E]

I don't want to get.

[A]

You could tell he had before he worked on this.

[E]

When you say it's this for your girl.

[B]

So he said this a bunch of times.

[A]

Happiness come first. I heard this on.

[D]

Never mind.

[A]

I know that line. Yo, you so stupid. That just sounds. Yo, you still getting this shit off?

[D]

Like, take a roll, dog. It don't fail you, man.

[E]

Itch. What did you say? Like, it depends on what she want.

[C]

Yeah. Like, if my girl was, like, itching for that, I mean, okay, so it.

[A]

Has to be a itch.

[B]

Yeah, scratchy itch.

[C]

My thing is, I just. Again, when I come home every day, I'm just looking for harmony and happiness in my household. That don't bring it. I know mad people that thought that marriage was gonna fix some shit, and it didn't.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

That's very true.

[C]

And then I also think that a lot of times, you know, n getting married on a financial tip and shit like that. Like, yo, I got a will. I got all my shit set up accordingly so that you don't need marriage.

[D]

To have those things. So. But if you were. If you decided that's the move you make, what kind of proposal?

[C]

I would definitely not do it publicly.

[D]

I know.

[C]

You know, we know that ain't my bag, bitch.

[A]

We knew that.

[C]

You know that ain't my bag, nigga could be married already, which I still.

[D]

Think might be the case, but I think that, too.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly. For sure.

[D]

You want some Janet Jackson?

[A]

I don't think I'm married. I promise you, I have that thought a lot. That you are already married. It's one of the Reasons. I could break you down right now.

[B]

I never even seen this.

[A]

I can break you down right now.

[E]

Would you not be able to say that to me? Like it's just married.

[A]

You move like a nigga that's already married. But it's a secret. It's on the side. Nobody know. You don't see it. She's a mystery. I'm outside. I wear my ring when I want to. That's how you move.

[D]

You do married.

[C]

I do relationship.

[D]

Chopping down trees for Christmas.

[A]

That's not relationship.

[D]

That's not relationship. It's married.

[C]

You is crazy.

[D]

Chop down trees with your wedding ring on. I already know how to. With my wedding ring. Exactly. That's why you don't invite us to. Right.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Now you doing. Now you doing the math. It all tracks.

[B]

It does.

[A]

It all makes the most sense in the universe.

[C]

That's a yo.

[E]

Could y' all imagine the combo of why he explains why he don't wear that ring on his. Listen, it's not good for my position on the podcast to come on with that ring.

[C]

I don't have.

[E]

You know the way I. You know the way I pod. I can't p correctly with that ring.

[B]

Maybe he's got the tattoo instead of the ring.

[A]

Well, that's.

[E]

That is the hood. Marriage check.

[C]

That's what I got.

[A]

It's possible that ring is in his car. Console charger, that little pocket to charge this Android.

[C]

Mr. And Mrs. Smith, I put my shit over.

[E]

Can I ask you a question?

[A]

You can ask me anything.

[E]

Would you do a public proposal?

[B]

He's done.

[D]

He's done again.

[E]

Again is when I. You think that I ain't see this. Ask somebody to marry him.

[B]

That's possible. You might have been. You know what I mean?

[E]

Don't I look like that show's demo. I seen that.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Stop. Would you do it again? God damn. Would you do it again? Yeah.

[C]

These, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes and no. I could do it publicly. I cannot do it publicly. I don't think she wants me to do that publicly because the first two were so public, like on television.

[B]

So you two also could be secretly married and we don't know.

[A]

Y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Y' all would know.

[C]

No, we would know.

[A]

Y' all would know.

[C]

That's the difference. We know.

[A]

I'm not. I'm not ish.

[E]

They ain't allowing no like that.

[A]

That's true.

[D]

That's the fact.

[E]

Straight up.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that part. Yeah.

[B]

That's a good point.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[E]

That Phone will ring mid pie. You good.

[A]

Mark, don't. You've only proposed to your wife.

[D]

Yeah. Yep.

[A]

Gotcha.

[D]

First and only. First, last and only.

[A]

Good. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, 100% from the field.

[A]

Got it. Got it. All right. Well, you did it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You guys did it. Some congratulations. You guys gave out.

[D]

Congrats.

[C]

Congrats again, man. This turns into the JVP proposal segment. Love wins.

[A]

Now, listen, Mona, I read the comments, too. Them fans learn me about jumping in the marriage talks, I'm shutting up. When they start having their marriage.

[D]

I'm out. You'll be with a su.

[A]

You doing it.

[D]

No, no.

[A]

You are doing it.

[D]

I believe it. I believe I'm on your squad.

[E]

Telling you I'm pissed.

[A]

You're not in my squad.

[D]

Always. Always. Your sister of speaking of doing things in public. Ice Spice showed up to the.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, Mark. We will not go into Ice Spice shaking ass for Nickelodeon.

[D]

What?

[C]

That was nuts, though.

[A]

Was it Nickelodeon? Yes.

[C]

The SpongeBob premiere. Yeah, that's.

[D]

She really look disgusted.

[E]

She has a special relationship with the SpongeBob.

[D]

Sounds like it at first.

[C]

You special to show up to that premiere like that. Don't do that. Yo, come on.

[A]

Who are y'? All?

[E]

She's a bad.

[A]

Who are y'?

[D]

All?

[A]

We criticize a proposal now we criticize and shaking ass in front of kids. Like, what is going.

[D]

Are y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Did we become too adult overnight and I had to miss the.

[E]

My biggest fear.

[A]

Yeah, that shit is corny. If we about to be that adult.

[C]

My nigga, you was see through at spongebob.

[D]

See through is crazy.

[C]

We not.

[D]

We not.

[C]

There's no way where we can sit here and say, oh, all right, I get it. I see what you're trying to do here. Like, no, no, we're not doing that.

[E]

You know what's crazy?

[A]

Show me a picture.

[E]

Yeah, I want to see, too. But you know what's crazy? It's usually those outfits I thought had to be approved sometimes. Like, I thought you had the. You got your stylist in your team and they send the look. So that's not, like a thing.

[D]

Not for the kids Awards.

[E]

Right. And that's why I would think that they would want to.

[D]

So they probably never needed to.

[E]

No way. You know, people always trying to make a statement. Not at Nickelodeon, where something political. People do stuff like that.

[A]

Why you can't make a statement in Nickelodeon if you got ass.

[E]

If they invited Mark right now, he gonna say some political Free Palestine on the stage.

[D]

Yeah. Cause I have so now they say like, don't do it no more, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That's crazy.

[A]

Let me see the picture. Ice Spice.

[C]

Come on, Joe.

[A]

I can't. Let me.

[E]

Let me see.

[C]

Yo, that's great.

[A]

Let me see.

[C]

That's nuts. You don't want that around. You don't want that. Nickelodeon spongebob premiere.

[A]

I'm done with y'.

[E]

All. Yeah, I don't think it's a cover dress for the listeners. His lace. Her cheeks are out a bit and it is a little risque, but it's not horrible because it's a long sleeve dress. And the dress comes all the way down to the ankles.

[C]

Feet at the sheer.

[E]

If she put a shirt under it, she would.

[C]

She don't have a shirt under it, though.

[E]

She put something under.

[D]

She's like, ice is passionate about this shit.

[E]

Yeah. Ice is pissed me. I was so.

[A]

You took each other first.

[E]

The motherfucking father.

[C]

Yo, y' all crazy, bro. Y' all sound crazy.

[D]

So you go to like the kids birthday party and. And people got on share. What do y' all do? Do y' all leave? Do y' all get out?

[C]

Somebody came to your son's birthday party in front of your family and all that with that one.

[B]

Y' all never had the girl that showed up to.

[D]

You want some juice?

[A]

Yeah. Mark don't see beauty.

[C]

Exactly.

[D]

Yeah, Mark don't see beauty. I wouldn't even see it.

[C]

Yo.

[E]

I don't think that's the kind of outfit where the kids are like, mommy or butt cheeks. I don't think it's that bad. Yeah, I think it's a little inappropriate.

[D]

But I don't think the dad's is probably more.

[E]

That's the problem. But this can't get her husband to lock in because this gets.

[A]

Now we telling the truth and she's trying to blame it on the kids. No, your husband is over here fucking staring.

[E]

Right. And now I can't wrangle this to sit down because I need your help. You keep staring at Ice Spice cheeks.

[A]

So crazy. Well, y' all saying we sound crazy just because it's Nickelodeon, right? Yes.

[C]

Yes. Have been here. Like Ice Spice, Ice you around little kids, bro.

[E]

I don't really watch the kids. So these is all on the red carpet together. The kids are all mixed in. It's. The crowd is half kids.

[D]

There's a lot of kids. The Nickelodeon joints especially. And some of them be like up to like 12 years old, 13 years old. Like the double date, which is even worse. Yeah, that's what I'm saying it does get to the age of, like, kids who might care about it.

[A]

Don't misconstrue my point.

[D]

I agree with y'.

[A]

All. I just think we sounding too, like, oh, the outrage, the outrage.

[C]

You look nuts going to Nickelodeon with that shit on.

[A]

She went for the fashion statement. Fashion statements are typically risque and meant to be spoken about. And she went. She went the other route. We know the route she went. I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna overkill her, but I.

[C]

Don'T watch the spongebob award that somewhere else. Like, what does she. That part.

[E]

She got a fat ass.

[D]

I didn't even see the picture.

[E]

It looks soft.

[A]

Mark don't see beauty.

[D]

I only saw the fabric.

[E]

You know what? Look, it looked like the type of fat ass. We put your finger in it and it just. The ass could say, consume the finger and you take it out. That looks soft.

[A]

That's your thing. You like doing that Bowling ball.

[E]

I'm a bowling ball person. But that's not what I'm talking about. Talking about just squeezing ass.

[A]

She wasn't talking about hole.

[E]

I wasn't talking about.

[B]

Oh, she was talking about cheap.

[E]

I was thinking, you are so good at that. Hey, man, you like a nigga whisperer.

[D]

Oh, yeah, no, that's. That's. That's wrong. I see all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Text me that.

[A]

And that's.

[D]

I'm writing a letter. I need all the evidence.

[C]

Send me. She got another one. She got a tight yellow leather dress on with the kids. Well, that one ain't bad. Cause she looked like spongebob.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[C]

She was on things. She don't look nothing like SpongeBob costume, my nigga.

[E]

Like, she wore a costume.

[C]

I'm not mad at that, but it's cool.

[D]

So is this a. Not to be cynical here, but is this about her fashion choices, or is this like an alternative of putting out music? Like, is this just an attention grab instead of music?

[C]

It got us talking about it.

[B]

This is true us.

[C]

I mean, when the last time we mentioned her, when I think about it.

[E]

Why is she been invited?

[B]

She's involved in the movie.

[A]

She's involved.

[E]

Okay, I didn't know. All right.

[A]

Yo, yo, why is she even invited to the SpongeBob Awards?

[E]

I was curious. I.

[A]

Can we get to 21 Savage, please, and leave Ice, Spice and Mariah, the scientists alone? Like, can we get to some that has an inkling of penis? Like dick? Like a man topic? Like some that would cocks are supposed to discuss.

[E]

Let's talk about some dick stuff, right?

[A]

Oh, come on with this Spongebob shit.

[E]

Let's talk about some macho stuff.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[D]

Football.

[C]

21. 21.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Tweets.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

21 savage tweets.

[D]

All right.

[A]

While his album is out, tweets.

[D]

All right, so this started with.

[A]

He said a bunch of.

[C]

Mark, mute up.

[A]

Mark, enough of your NPR head ass, all right?

[D]

I was giving you the tweets.

[A]

No, don't give me shit.

[D]

You don't need no evidence operating without that shit.

[A]

It's personality and character. God damn it. 21. Savage said a bunch of shit that we've been saying and we thought he should have been saying to people, and he finally said it. He tweeted at Lil Baby, he tweeted at P. He tweeted at Young Thug, he tweeted at Gunna. Who else did he tweet at? Am I missing anybody? Oh, Quavo and Offset. He did a whole. Just like the name of his album is the Streets Are Done.

[C]

What happened to the Streets?

[A]

What happened to the Streets?

[C]

So, well, he tweeted at those names. He didn't tweet the right pages, but that's. He tried. He tried.

[B]

He tried.

[C]

He tried.

[A]

And future, but not future. Yeah, and future, but not future. Mm.

[B]

And what was his messaging in these tweets?

[A]

All right, now we can find the tweets and actually read.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Now we can actually find the truth tweets and read the tweets.

[C]

What was the overall sentiment?

[A]

But his. The sentiment was how he's just been standing on business, remaining solid for the purpose of Atlanta. He said, p, you know, I had a problem with you. I told you that to your face. But because you were the one signing all of the young niggas, I never said nothing publicly about you because that would have fucked up the money in Atlanta. So I never did that. He said, offsetting, Quavo. Y' all niggas know that. And in his Big Bang interview, he kind of spoke to his role and kind of being a peacemaker in Atlanta and how that never kind of gets hurt. So the tweets are on par for some of what he shared in the Big bank interview. He said, quavo, Offset. All right, go ahead.

[C]

So Quavo and Offset, he said, y' all niggas tell the world I put y' all on group text and told y' all squash it before it even got far. Nigga, if y' all was still together, y' all would be unstoppable. He says to Lil Baby, you're one of the realest young niggas out this year. Admit slime was moving a goal post and we were standing behind him because we love him, my brother. I like that tweet to Gunna and young Thug. Y' all niggas fix that shit. Y' all love each other. You knew Gunna wasn't no gangster when he told the first time. And we swept it under the rug for you.

[A]

He's spilling tea.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

You know he wasn't trying to Facts.

[E]

I love it.

[C]

You know he wasn't trying to leave you to hang. The streets, we ain't get shit but trauma from that shit. To p. I told you to your face you did wrong at the party, but I never bashed you on the Internet because it would have made the city look bad because you was putting all the young young on and that would have the money up. And then it's the the future thing where it looked like a sub, but I guess wasn't or. But he says, I apologize, my brother. I should have called you first.

[A]

Us.

[D]

It was a sub.

[C]

It was. Yeah, he just apologized and now they're all tweeting the streets. Oh, young thug 21.

[A]

Great.

[C]

I respect that.

[A]

Wonderful.

[B]

I think this is great from the.

[E]

Big bank interview with. One thing that stood out to me was they're talking real fast and Big bank says to 21, you are calling squash it, ass nigga. Like, he almost like make a joke about it. I But that's like real deal. He's known for that in that area to be the one that calls and tries to and that that guy is important. I feel like nowadays everybody want to look so motherfucking cool. Especially the worst thing that ever happened to us. The whole unbothered thing. Everybody act like they don't care. I fucking hate that. People that are most unbothered are the most hyper vigilant. Watch every little thing most bother people. I hate that that's like a thing that people push. So I like the fact that a grown ass man is like, let me say it in front of you, in front of everybody else. Now what? Cause what's the worst that could happen? Like, how offended can you be for me telling you exactly how I feel and the shit that I say behind your back.

[A]

And it's like, if you're mad, you mad.

[E]

Yeah. What the fuck you want to do?

[C]

You can't call me.

[A]

Phone, feel however you want to feel about it. I'm saying things that are true. I'm documenting it now. It's not just behind the scenes, keeping shit a secret. I think that's important.

[C]

I do. I think your intentions are important. And from what I could muster up, his intentions are a thousand percent genuine. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, this don't got nothing to do with me. I told y' all niggas to kiss and makeup and y' all niggas would be unstoppable. I did that for y', all, not for me. You know what I'm saying? If I come between two niggas that could potentially shoot each other head off, and you gotta be a solid and respected enough nigga to even broker that deal where they both listen to you. For these niggas to listen to you, you already gotta be standing on something for them to even take you seriously. I just think it's fire. I really think it's fire.

[A]

And for me, I agree that that solid point is true. For every one of those tweets, for him to have that conversation with Pete, for him to do the group chat with them niggas, for him to say what he's saying to wham. For him to. Yeah, no, it's 2021. All you ever hear about him is him being solid. This is more of that to me. But again, I'm saying that from New Jersey. I don't know how I would feel if I were intertwined in that or if I were in Atlanta or had business in that.

[C]

My only. My only question I had when this happened was, why write this second?

[E]

Why not?

[C]

No, no, you. None of this is brand new, right? There's been plenty of time. Like I said, you put them on a group chat. Why are you tweeting this? Anytime I see something on the Internet, I always ask myself, why am I finding this out right now? What's the real reason behind it?

[E]

I feel like it gives. Like, y' all should know I'm this type of nigga. Like, y' all should know. Like, it shouldn't be. It should be highlighted. Should be. People like this in the hood stop people from killing each other. People do exist in neighborhoods, huh?

[C]

I saying, yo, your album just dropped, so you want to get a little buzz. So you gonna throw this shit on Twitter to make it a conversation piece, knowing that your album just dropped.

[E]

Yeah, and I get that. Right? But that's actually thorough shit, so you should be able to brand your off of that. You should be able to get some buzz off of you being a thorough ass in real life. I'm going to expose what I do behind the scenes because I got an album out because I happen to be a real. Watch this.

[C]

And the album's called.

[B]

It's All Tied In.

[C]

And the tone of the album is, yo, what happened to the Streets? So y' all can't say I'm saying all of this stuff on the album, but I'm living something behind closed doors. Because behind closed doors, I stand on all the that I'm saying on the album. And now all of y' all can attest to it. I never said nothing about it, but y' all can attest to this is how I'm really moving. Great point.

[A]

And right, like, if. If they remained quiet about certain things. I mean, 21 is acknowledging that Young Thug video was nuts. That Young Thug tape was nuts. Yo. So I mean, sometimes, you know, you standing on something and then inconsistencies start to show and then it looks a certain way and now it's like you have that mirror. You kind of pit against somebody else. This shit that you've put out there, when that's not what you're doing, that's not what you're doing. That Young Thug tape was absolutely nuts. It's good to hear somebody in Atlanta recognize that was nuts. And the explanation was nuts.

[C]

And the fact that he said, yo, we moved the goalpost for him because we love him. I think everybody does that. I say that all the time. We all do that shit.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So to hear him admit it, I.

[A]

Loved him saying I love that. I loved him saying we knew who gunna was. Facts, accountability. Facts, accountability. Not a bunch of really savvy street niggas continuing to be fooled by caricatures or people that don't belong in that setting. No, you're not. Street nigga is some of the most brilliant people in the world. Some of the most intuitive, some of the brightest, perception wise, could spot it 10 miles before it happened. You didn't just keep getting tricked by non street niggas. That didn't happen. That didn't happen. You knew he was own the shit. Great. I love that he said it.

[C]

Yeah. A thousand percent. Yeah.

[A]

And all that need to be said. It does need to be said from people that the kids listen to, look up to, from somebody involved, connected, like it said, could broker that. I have. No, I thought this was very well done. I didn't even get to why is he doing this right now?

[C]

I just always ask. It's just again, I don't want to, like I'm taking away.

[D]

Better late than never.

[C]

That is amazing what he did.

[E]

And I stop feeling Perfectly clear.

[C]

I just always ask that.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

I just always ask that question. This has nothing to do with him. This is just a thing with the Internet. Because I always like to see what's the motive behind doing it. Right now I don't mind Internet games if they're good. Right. That's why I'm not knocking it. I just want to be very clear that I am not knocking.

[A]

It's my blanket answer for that today is anything I see on the Internet, I'm supposed to see. Yeah.

[B]

That's how it should go at least.

[A]

Most of this shit is calculated. Most of the shit is a plan. Most of the shit is a company behind a company. Most of the shit is a shell company. Most of the shit is a publicist. Most of the shit is coming from a lawyer. It's coming from whatever is there is so people can see it. That's my blanket surface, simple answer. Now I'm done getting into the weeds of it like we used to.

[B]

I think people are a little more strategic with the Internet too. Back in the day, you might get drunk or high or whatever and just start tweets some.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I feel like people know not to.

[C]

People. People understand the risks now.

[A]

Yeah. They don't.

[C]

They don't do that as much.

[D]

Even the tweet and delete seem intentional there. Yeah, yeah. We saw Christian Combs.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

His tweet and delete on. Yeah. When I see 50, I'm a smack him. And then it was deleted.

[E]

Yikes.

[D]

That's not an accident. That wasn't. I'm having a bad moment and I forgot. That's like I would have it. It's gone. It's not on the record, per se.

[E]

Deleted.

[D]

I don't know. By the time. By the time I got to it, it was already gone. But you know, it resurfaced in the last.

[E]

Boy gonna get his ass whooped.

[D]

I don't know about that.

[E]

Okay. I'm telling you, that's a grown up, you know? You know, you older. You can't get let no young boy get out on you. You got to him up. You know what I mean?

[D]

I'm saying I don't think it'll be no violence. I'm not saying he could get the best of.

[E]

I think he should get it out of his head. I think he should stop thinking that way. You know, he don't look like he can fight. He don't look like he got it. He don't. He don't look like he was protecting them twins on the schoolyard. He was walking them to the car. They got chauffeured in. That boy need to put rapid that durag on. Keep them waves right and sing. Okay.

[D]

I don't know if he could fight it.

[A]

I agree with the. Let there not be violence. Yes.

[C]

I want no violence. Indeed.

[D]

That's what I want. But if you are going to smack.

[A]

Somebody, I also agree that there could be violence. Could be. There could be.

[C]

Especially when you start talking about smacking Mr. Scent.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Or my father. I'm a smack 50 Cent when I see him.

[C]

Mr. Scent.

[D]

But if you gonna smack somebody, why you gotta say you gonna smack him ahead of time?

[C]

That's the part I never understood that.

[E]

Not to mention it fucks up the.

[C]

Artist'S surprise to get off.

[E]

What I walk up to you smiling quick.

[C]

Nah. In my hood, you know what my hood they used to do What? Ask you a question first.

[D]

What would you say?

[C]

You said such as a pop like it was coming right behind the first question.

[E]

Yo. You said yo.

[C]

Which why you do it was coming.

[E]

One of my favorite is I'mma smile at you. I'm act like I'm walking past you. I'm stealing off on you because I want you to not be ready. I'm trying to win.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm not going to put you on point.

[E]

Maybe. Oh, that's not fair. Square up that I never.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

These new kids.

[A]

It's on site. Drop low. No.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Why?

[A]

No, I want there to be shock.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

The element of surprise. You'll steal somebody.

[E]

I want you to drop your stuff when you see me. I want just get to shuffling around when you see me.

[A]

You know what I mean? Yes.

[E]

That I went whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like that.

[A]

Whisper to whoever you with. Start pointing. Use the phones.

[E]

Commission all that. I'm on that.

[A]

That do you power walk?

[E]

I do a little trot. Cause I'm kind of slow. So I'm gonna go ahead and put a little jog on it. My jog look like a power walk.

[C]

And get a little bit of legs behind the punch.

[E]

Listen, you know what? I gotta get up on you. You know what I mean? I don't hit that hard. I gotta get up on you try to get you down on the ground. I was a big girl for most of my life. You know, you sit on the mark. I'll tell you later.

[A]

And outside of that being Puff's son. Right. Like the tweet and delete implies that, you know, I'm speaking for the family.

[C]

We got a problem with this.

[A]

Yeah. And it brings you back to the. The report that Puff had sent flowers to. Fucking fif. It's like Puff will eventually come home. Fifth Gonna always be outside. Like who? Don't nobody wanna listen. I'm not perpetuating nothing that could lose us anybody any grace. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

[E]

But let's be clear, like. Cause I don't know, I feel like a lot of people at home, you don't really know what it feel like when a bunch of people are talking shit about you. And it's like 50 is very good at like, you know, he's entertaining. You know what I mean? If it's embarrassing shit going on and it's something that people didn't notice, that was embarrassing. 50 gonna pick up that little thing and really run with that. So it's like a father, they're embarrassed. They've been through a lot. That's real anger is tight. That family is tired of that. So it's like when somebody say, I'm gonna smack the out you. That's not like lightly, you know what I mean? It could be taken lightly. On top of the fact I don't like to be threatened. I don't give a who said who. I don't like. People say, I'mma hit you. I'm gonna do something too. I really don't like this. Like I just. Even in what I do now. You could talk about this. Don't say you gonna do nothing to me. I'm taking it serious. I'm never forgetting it. Like I'm on that, you know what I mean? When I see you, I'm going. Because I had to protect myself in that way. What type of fool I'm gonna be? You didn't say you was gonna smack me on Twitter a year ago. You walk in and I'm seated, comfortable. No, I'm standing up when I see you. Cause you said you was gonna put your hands on me, period. Like, I don't know where y' all from. That's why you always getting bragged out on camera. I'll be ready. My old ass. I'm ready.

[A]

Well, there is a different way to live and you don't have to live that way.

[E]

The grandmama you always talk about, she still fight too.

[A]

And you don't have to be in the same spot as Britney x79.

[E]

I challenge that.

[A]

You don't have to be in the same place that they are.

[E]

I am a red blooded American and violence is the American way. And I'm not embarrassed or ashamed about it. But violence is the American way.

[A]

Well, that's cause they turned it into that. Before they came with their weapons, we was partying, seasoning food, dancing, jumping up and down, playing sports, little buffalo skins for my neighbors. We was chilling. It wasn't that before they came.

[C]

Savages.

[E]

Ever since I've been here, we on that.

[A]

Whatever. No, of course, you know, chickenpox and mice.

[E]

I'm not like totally against it.

[A]

We was having a blast before they came.

[C]

We was chilling chicken for a chicken pox.

[A]

Bro.

[E]

They really wipe out just on some dirty. Like don't nobody wash up in this group. And we already die about this. Cheese on their balls. Cheese in their feet. We about to die about it.

[A]

And they must have been deep. We must have been scattered.

[C]

Yeah, that's n it was organized. They was forgiven. Was forgiven. A never seen nobody do no organized.

[E]

They had a plan and they stoned.

[C]

Element of surprise again.

[E]

You could have smelled them coming.

[C]

I don't get why we about to.

[D]

Come take your small box.

[C]

Tell you. Yo, yo, Thursday we pulling up.

[A]

I feel like element of surprise.

[E]

You had to smell them boats on the shore, cuz them niggas stunk and them. Yeah, they stink.

[C]

They what?

[E]

Yo, no disrespect.

[D]

They stomp.

[E]

They stink and they stomp, bro. Stomp. His past tense when you stomp before.

[C]

He's already stinking already.

[A]

I don't want to use the word. Hey, can I tell y' all about a white person I really, really, really, really, really dislike?

[C]

Sure. Trying to see if I know who before you say.

[A]

And then we'll get to an ad or something. Boy, give me a hint first.

[E]

Come on. You want to get.

[A]

We want to guess It's a kid.

[E]

Oh, fuck.

[A]

I don't want to be a part of that kid. As in 25 and under.

[E]

Okay. What's up?

[C]

Is it a streamer?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

One name with two names. Two.

[A]

Two.

[B]

Start with an A.

[C]

Start with an A. C. Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Related to Betsy. No clue who could be related to Betsy.

[C]

Who the fuck this could be named after a painter.

[B]

Anybody. Could be anybody related to Bob.

[E]

Let me let you go, cuz I have an opinion about.

[A]

Go ahead. I don't with that little white boy.

[E]

He's horrible.

[A]

I don't with nothing about him.

[C]

Why though? I'm not really as familiar with him like that.

[E]

Oh God.

[C]

You see the puka?

[A]

Yes, I saw the puka. That's what has me on it like that. Like I feel bad for puka.

[D]

I do too.

[C]

I feel bad.

[A]

Puka Nakua went on Aiden Ross's stream.

[B]

Before or after you went absolutely crazy on Thursday?

[A]

Before.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Puka's had a tough week. Yeah. Oh, he went on Aiden Ross's stream and Aiden Ross was teaching him a touchdown dance to do for when you get your next touchdown.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And the touchdown dance was some anti semitic hand gesture that Puka did on the stream. No, he didn't do.

[C]

No, not that he didn't do that.

[A]

When he did another one. I'm not going.

[C]

I'm not doing it.

[D]

But why do you do it? Please.

[A]

But, but, but he didn't know.

[C]

He had no idea. He's just like, okay, this is what I do.

[A]

So Aiden Ross knew.

[E]

Of course.

[A]

Aiden Ross be knowing. There's a little click of those white or those racist little white fucks.

[D]

Facts.

[A]

The racist little white streamers playing games.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm telling you.

[A]

So Pooka's had a tough week. He had to issue a statement saying, I had no idea that that hand gesture meant XYZ. I'm sorry anybody I've harmed. Sean McVay has had to respond to this shit in the post game. Like it became a really, really, really big deal.

[B]

That's a really fucked up thing to do.

[A]

I just don't fuck with him, y'.

[E]

All.

[C]

That's crazy though.

[A]

I don't with him.

[C]

You know how. How much that could have affected.

[D]

See, and that's.

[A]

And that's why. And that's why let me sell out a little more back to me being a sell out.

[C]

I might be with you.

[A]

And that's why, you know, Aiden Ross was on. He went on Logan Paul's podcast. See, I don't be in the white people business, but him and his little. The other little racist white boy Steve will do it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Not really. I try to keep the money.

[A]

Good, good. Me too. But Logan Paul wasn't playing none of that racist shit.

[B]

Good on him.

[A]

Homeboy said something. Logan Paul said, yo, get the fuck out. Get up, get the fuck out. I'm not gonna ask you again. I'm gonna remove you myself. It's gonna go a different way if you don't get the fuck out of my face right now.

[D]

Yeah, good on him.

[A]

Yeah, I love that.

[E]

That's the response I need to see though. Just like that. That or nothing.

[A]

The only one.

[E]

The only one that's acceptable.

[D]

Yeah, like they thought he was playing.

[A]

Like they thought he was. Nah, all white boys ain't on that, dog. All white boys ain't on what you want anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mona.

[E]

This the Thing about this nigga, first of all, he's very greasy. He's greased. He's grease filled his skin, his hair, he's greasy. Okay? The thing about him that I don't like is I feel like already in that streaming world for some reason, it gives like. Like Internet, Yahoo. Back in the day when everything was just in the chat and Xbox in the chat, it's already. I don't like Call of Duty.

[C]

Call of Duty Lobby.

[E]

Yes, Call of Duty Lobby. I feel like those. A lot of those streamers ignore that. They too worried about numbers to shut that down. I feel like you can mute in your chat, you can mute some of these words. Just get that out of here. People shouldn't have to look at people say monkey. It's too many young people, young black kids watching you, bigger kids. Even though y' all are super successful, super smart, but you just shouldn't. It's not worth the money to let people call you a monkey all day. A gifting you or not. Right on top of the fact I feel like with that little greasy fucker that I feel like he benefited off of black stuff, black culture and everything. And I feel like as soon as he got on, he starts showing what he was really on. He just comes off. So he was out of nowhere. It was like over. And I'm not gonna say I was super tuned in, but I didn't. I wasn't disgusted by him. It's like just more and more he just being open with just being a fucking racist. And it's like, damn, like, you know, the little bamboozle me part? I hate that.

[C]

I think that money gets you into other rooms with them white older men that you might admire, and they start grooming these little young white boys that be from the middle of nowhere. It don't even matter where you from. But you just grew up in a. In a generation where you could just say whatever the fuck you want to say from behind your computer.

[E]

So you more think he might have picked that up later.

[C]

I don't know him, so I'm not saying that. I'm not trying to give him a pass neither. I'm not trying to give him a. I'm just saying that now I got mad bread and I can say what the fuck I want. And then my circle of people that I'm around might have those same exact sentiments. And they just using him as a mouthpiece or that might be his mouthpiece.

[A]

Those sentiments have existed from some white people since the beginning of the time, way before him. Yeah, we Ain't gonna be in a space where you comfortable saying it while black people are in the room.

[E]

Yeah, come on, bro.

[A]

And I mean, some people was letting that go, but Aiden Ross can't come to the strip club if I'm there.

[C]

Anybody not letting that shit go, man. Yeah, they not. And to another thing, I think a lot of these dudes, the people that they get around, it's like impressive for them now. Now I could get my shit off. And now I'm in this circle and it's working for me. It's like, oh shit, if I start leaning this way, I'm getting way more successful. Let me lean even, even if they don't believe it, let me just lean further into it. Because this is really what's working. I'm impressing everybody. I'm the man now because I go full tinfoil hat.

[B]

I think that they're giving these people money to do.

[D]

I was about to say that, but.

[C]

I said I want to give him a pass to make it seem like it ain't. Some of his thoughts.

[B]

Oh, it could be that too, you.

[C]

Know what I'm saying? Like, yo, I don't want to find.

[B]

People that might be willing to do it it.

[C]

I don't want to blame it on nobody. You don't want. I still think that got to be in you.

[B]

I'm not saying you got to be a puppet. You could be willing to participate. But I think that they're getting bigger platforms and bigger voices and being boosted up intentionally.

[E]

And I don't think people realize that it's getting bigger with a lot of the stuff that's going on with policies or whatever. That little neo Nazi like that, that, that shit's getting bigger and younger. It's growing. It's like it wasn't. That wasn't always a thing where, you know, young people are smart, they read, they know what, what's going on. You know, young people change the world. These young are coming up being filled with fear to be afraid of black things and black culture and don't trust. And they're being told that, you know, like, basically these people cry too much and you shouldn't feel bad and you should have pride in your whiteness and a bunch of bullshit. But it's starting to be a thing. Like it's getting bigger. I feel like you won't see it more in schools with your kids. You won't have issues where your kids are having situations that our grandparents went through in high school. Cuz these kids, that's where they trying.

[C]

To get them back to. I mean look at it.

[E]

They just look at.

[C]

Just look at the.

[E]

That they doing in politics.

[B]

And it's getting normalized on some. Yo, we got to hear both sides. No we don't.

[E]

That's why every Internet clip I see that, that's.

[B]

I'm always going to say that.

[E]

Every end of clip I see where somebody's getting beat the out of them for saying the N word and all that. I'm with that. I'm telling you. Whoop they ass. Don't pull the camera out. Say it again. Say again. Bust her ass. Take that phone and whoop her ass with it. What's wrong with you? Do it for your ancestors in the revolution. Fuck that. And fuck them children too. Just know if your racist kid go to my kid and say the N word, my kid gonna whoop your kid ass in round two is at the goddamn meeting at the school. And don't come to the strip club when you see Joey greasy. You better avoid him nigga. Cause we on that greasy ass. It's going to be hard to get a hold of that. Telling you now, got a T shirt off his little. And he getting. He getting fat. Big ass belly goose. And he's short. He's short.

[A]

And Puka did go off last night.

[D]

That's crazy.

[C]

Go off. Go off.

[D]

Sheesh.

[A]

He was right there. The seventh pick. Yo.

[B]

These Thursday night football games have been amazing.

[C]

He was right there at seven.

[A]

He was right there the seventh.

[E]

So do Puka and him have a problem now? Like is that like a bro? Why'd you do that to me?

[C]

Yeah, you should have a problem. I would.

[A]

You just gotta be careful. You gotta be careful when you jumping on these people's streams.

[E]

Thanks.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like you jumping on a young kid stream. Who's up? Who, who has nothing to lose. Who was probably encouraged to say divisive things on his stream. Is there to use you for a quick prank or a quick second of chat reaction and. And you part of organization.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't need it by the way.

[C]

Yeah, but your PR person might have you going over there. He's. He's so big pause that it wouldn't help. It wouldn't hurt your brand if the. If the interview went the right way.

[E]

I have a question.

[B]

I don't know what his contract is right now but Puka Nuku is going to get a big ass fucking contract whether he goes on Aiden Russ stream.

[A]

I'm just saying like Puka Naku are gonna be still with my fourth pick.

[B]

You Know what I'm saying?

[C]

Like, up seven. Seven.

[A]

Well, he won't be there at seven next year.

[C]

No, he won't. No.

[E]

I have a question, guys. If these streams, is it production there or is it because when he said be careful going to streams, the first thing I thought, it's too live. They don't stop. And the second thought I had was, is it a production team kind of helping them do that to some degree, or is it just raw? They live.

[C]

And the bigger ones have full production.

[E]

Too, because that's what my fear would be. This camera don't go off, so it's like. And these niggas not clipping back. You can't take it back, take it out. It's live completely. If they don't care about you, you know what I mean? They'll have you in the corner where.

[C]

You still could be seen doing some wild shit.

[E]

That's why I haven't done them streams, because I know this mouth is not for live. It's over if I get caught in that corner talking on that phone.

[B]

True, indeed.

[E]

Boy, I use all the slurs what I like to slurp.

[A]

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[E]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

Yo, that little dumbass smile. They pay you get him.

[A]

Bill Cosby pudding smile.

[B]

Make Mark trickery.

[D]

Trickery.

[A]

Oh, my God. He was smiled, too. You're right. I've been working on my smile. I've been in the mirror working on my smile like rapper heads. You think I would too?

[F]

You crazy?

[A]

It's important. All right, what else? What else? What else?

[C]

My. I know you don't got on no old school boxers.

[D]

You can see my boxers.

[C]

They got the plaid old school.

[A]

This is a bunch up.

[B]

What I'm.

[A]

About to get on now.

[D]

No, I'm a little uncomfortable, but you constantly watch me walk away.

[A]

But why? Why? Those your boxes?

[D]

These are my emergency boxes. They shouldn't.

[B]

You be in the emergency.

[A]

You shouldn't have those on the Patreon the other day he said he had 50 pairs of drawers or something. Now we on emergency boxes.

[D]

So this is exactly right. So I sent the 50 out. I do that. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You send the 50 out for laundry. And so I got two of these.

[A]

We taking these lies too far now.

[D]

No, listen.

[A]

Now we taking these lies.

[B]

You don't wash your drawers.

[C]

How you rack up the.

[D]

I wait till the hair piles up and then I send them all out at once and they come back in a day. So on a day that they're not here, I got three pair.

[B]

Those are your birthday boxers.

[D]

These are the emergency boxes. Then after that, if I'm really desperate, I go to the swim trucks.

[C]

My dumb. You live within five minutes of a target.

[D]

That's how I got the 50. Because every time. Every time.

[C]

I'm not posting bottles.

[D]

They're not supposed to be a part of your. I'm comfortable with my drawers.

[B]

Do you not have a washing machine?

[D]

I do. I got two.

[B]

So.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Something is off in what you're doing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's what we are trying to explain.

[B]

That's all.

[D]

I don't think y' all wrong. I just don't give a fuck.

[B]

That's fair.

[D]

I didn't think this would be the place where my underwear selection would be so high stakes.

[A]

Yo, well, listen, I'm comfortable. Listen, it's just all super shocked at you having whack boxers. I'm not like, without seeing the boxers. Mark Hole feng shui, say corny boxers.

[C]

No, that's not true.

[D]

That's not true. Except for. But my mercy boxes. Like I said, it's bad when my wife sleeps. You. Oh, it's laundry. Laundry time. Like, especially if I get down to the swim trunks.

[C]

She'd be disappointed.

[B]

Like, wearing swim trunks as boxers is absolutely crazy.

[A]

Going through 50 pairs of drawers without any of them being clean whilst owning two.

[C]

I can't.

[B]

Washing machines.

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

And my wife offers to wash them. I just don't want her to do it.

[A]

So.

[D]

So then I like. I have a routine. I like sending them out in my. In my mind. I'm gonna send them out every 10, but then 10 turns to 20, 20 turns to 30, and I go through three or four pair a day sometime, so.

[B]

Are you a mess?

[D]

I'm not shitting on myself. I go to the gym.

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

I go to the gym. So I go through 50 a lot. Because I change the shower a few times a day from working out.

[A]

You get mustier than me. I don't know. Something is off.

[D]

You don't change your drawers after you work out.

[A]

I change my drawers after I take a shower, Mark.

[D]

Yeah. And you shower every time you work out, right?

[A]

Don't worry about when I shower, after I shower.

[C]

You know how you got laundry day? He got showered.

[A]

I changed.

[D]

Show day.

[A]

I knew you had it out for me.

[D]

Yeah. If you work out a couple times a day, then you're gonna go through. Take a couple showers a day so you go through drawers faster.

[C]

Yo, this. I'm gonna buy you some boxes.

[D]

No, thank you.

[A]

For Christmas.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

When you buy me a book, I'm.

[C]

Gonna buy you some boxes. Boxer briefs.

[D]

I got boxer.

[A]

No, no.

[D]

You need some. I only wear boxer briefs except for emergency.

[A]

Not them.

[C]

Yo, throw those shits out.

[D]

No box of trash. Throw away my socks with holes in them. I got socks with holes.

[A]

Why? Why, Mark?

[C]

What you trying to hold on to the struggle with something?

[E]

No.

[A]

Get married and let themselves go too. Don't talk about that. Get married and completely let themselves go.

[D]

That was the quiet part. I can't say that.

[A]

Holes in the side.

[B]

I throw away my socks as a married man.

[A]

Word.

[C]

These got to go. Enough, my nigga.

[D]

My wife will secretly throw them away now, but yeah, my socks got holes in them. And I'll wear them a couple more times.

[A]

Why?

[C]

I'm gonna quote this philosopher, Joe Button.

[A]

Oh, God.

[C]

You don't have to live like that out of that, dog.

[D]

You're right.

[C]

I like it.

[D]

I like it.

[A]

That's some real crackhead.

[C]

Yeah, that's some wild North Philly, right?

[D]

It's not even North Philly. North Philly will buy a new pair of socks every day.

[C]

Yo, I throw away tank tops when.

[A]

They get a little.

[C]

Yeah, that little dingy color to them. Yeah, they ain't white no more.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Underwear is not to be held onto. That held onto. It's fine.

[D]

I used to.

[A]

But.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, it's been a long time.

[A]

Y' all figure out what y' all getting y' all wives slash partners for Christmas yet?

[B]

I've done something.

[C]

Yeah. I got something.

[A]

Have y' all started any of that Christmas shopping?

[B]

A little bit.

[A]

Streets is a mess.

[B]

I started yesterday.

[A]

The stores are a mess.

[C]

I just started all my shopping yesterday.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

Yeah, I got some of the ship. What?

[C]

First items.

[D]

Okay. Multiple items.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[D]

Okay. I'm asking. I don't know. I'm just.

[A]

Yeah, you don't.

[D]

I don't celebrate Christmas.

[A]

Oh, you got it.

[D]

That's why I'm like. I'm fascinated by this.

[C]

I. I was gonna go crazy. I'm not going crazy. I'm just paying bills.

[D]

So I. I sat down on Christmas Day, she's gonna get the pseg, right?

[C]

No, I said. I asked. I said this on the Patreon. I'm like, yo, I was gonna buy my girl a watch, and I asked her like, yo, you want the watch or you just want to get rid of your debt? And she was like, she want to get rid of the debt.

[A]

So.

[D]

So on Christmas Day, I let you.

[A]

Say it on Patreon without giving my opinion of it either. You could give.

[D]

Give that opinion.

[A]

Joe, why you taking a sip?

[D]

Thirsty?

[A]

Yeah. Bit. No. You ass. Tacky.

[C]

You said you wouldn't do that.

[D]

He said it's tacky.

[A]

No, I'm. I'm not giving my opinion. That's his house and. And his gift.

[C]

Yo, fam, let me.

[D]

But you wouldn't be tacky.

[A]

I mean, I pay the bills. I would just pay the bill.

[D]

Got you.

[A]

I'm not saying that's what he should do, but the gift. Like to pay the bills. You'd be just. And here's a but.

[C]

And Joe make and ishmake.

[A]

So there's a difference.

[D]

Solid point.

[A]

I mean. Well, I don't think our Amex bills are the same, though.

[C]

I know I would agree with that. Let me get some points.

[A]

Listen, you could cover your girl's amex bill and get the fucking watch. You cheap. Okay, Cover the bill. You should have been building up to this leading up to it. Save. Cover the bill. Get that little Rolly. The rolly ain't but 10:15.

[D]

Was that the watch you were thinking about?

[A]

Get the little girl Rolly.

[C]

That Cartier.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Still same family, same wheelhouse.

[C]

It ain't no different.

[D]

Are you getting it like that?

[A]

Yes, he's getting it like that.

[C]

No, that's why I'm picking and choosing. Mark. You saw the paper with the, with the hoodie sales on it.

[D]

Oh yeah, I seen the books.

[C]

All right.

[D]

Yo, we the hood records, the manila envelope.

[A]

We didn't. We covered the 21 savage without getting into the exchange between him and Future, which I do think is a little important.

[D]

That was my favorite part of the whole thing, right? How quickly they pieced it up.

[A]

Is that what what your favorite part was?

[D]

That was my favorite part. Yeah. The public apologies.

[A]

I loved his public 21's public apology.

[D]

Yes, bro. I should have called you first.

[C]

Your phone number. Accountability, bro. Like you keep saying, bro. It's just accountability. I think it's just some grown up. Yo dog. Any that has my phone number. Any person that has my phone number. If you gonna shoot at me on a public forum, I'm gonna lose disrespect for you because you have my phone number. I'm in part I'm lose respect for you because you have my phone number. So if it's something that you really want to discuss with me, my pick up the phone, text me, call me, whatever the case may be. But if you take it straight to some public forum, I think that shit is goofy.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

So I respect him that he said, yo my. I should have called you first. I just think that the way he carries himself, I never met him. It just seemed like just a stand up.

[A]

You would love him.

[D]

You would love Daryl.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

He just seemed like a stand up Be like I respect that all day.

[A]

I liked his shade too though. I liked Future saying the biggest in this. I like 21 saying the biggest change all the time. That was just a fly.

[D]

You could be a quick little subliminal.

[A]

Exchange snapback to send to somebody who is indeed the biggest. I think there's pride to be taken in being the biggest. I think there's pride to be taken in being the realest. I love how they cleaned it up. That was great. That's all I Got on. On that exchange. I did think it should be highlighted, though.

[C]

Yeah, I respect that. Yeah. I just like that they cleaned it.

[A]

Hey, Mona.

[D]

Hey, mom.

[C]

Easy.

[E]

What's up? Y' all like quiet Mona.

[C]

I like Mona.

[A]

We just like everything about Mona. Quiet Mona. Loud Mona. Bad wig Mona good wig. Lashes falling off Mona.

[E]

Wait. Hey, it started as a compliment.

[C]

I like.

[A]

I like all the demoners.

[E]

Like, if the Internet think y' all all want me to shut up, tell.

[A]

Them that behind camera, y' all wrong. Big wrong.

[E]

And behind the camera, pose doing this. Pose doing this.

[A]

Couldn't be more wrong. I want more words, more conversation, facts.

[E]

Y want to get past the ball more?

[C]

No, you fine. No, you can shoot. Get forward to shoot.

[A]

Mona, the thing is, you only been here for two months.

[E]

Yeah, but I feel like.

[A]

And it's. And it's been once a week, like.

[C]

And it's been a great two months. I had fun with you up here. Every episode, the lights up right up.

[A]

Here, it's like jumping right into, like, a playoff game or like a cult.

[E]

Like, in a center of a cult. A vicious, vicious, bored ass. No disrespect.

[D]

Not too much on cults.

[E]

The members or our cult brother here, Marco.

[A]

Yeah. The fans. There's people that, you know, the people that don't have to visualize that just get to judge product, right? Get to say, hey, this talk too much. But when you build in something, like chemistry, right? These are the ebbs and flows that come along with that. And you got to welcome it. There's. There's great reward at the end if.

[E]

You welcome it one time. I mean, one thing I do notice in the comments that I like that they say that it seems like y' all have fun. Like, we. You know what I mean? When we have people say they have seen you guys laugh this hard. You two.

[C]

That's a fact.

[D]

Yeah, you should be giggling.

[E]

The Print brothers.

[C]

All right, all right.

[A]

The Print boys. The Print boys.

[C]

I'm uncomfortable now. Now I'm uncomfortable.

[E]

My bad. Now I can't take back what I said about print Parks. No, but that's probably, like, one of my favorites, though, because that's. It's. We do have fun. I told you the other day, y' all turn my whole week around. I had so much fun in here, but I feel like you shouldn't read the comments of the certain extent. If you don't read the comments, you don't know what you feeding the people. You got to feed the consumer. You got to know what they looking for, what they like you gotta do.

[B]

You watch tape back.

[E]

Yeah, I have been. I hate it. It's these cameras. Good as a God damn. Can you please give me the Android camera?

[B]

You could just listen to the audio.

[E]

I be wanting to see the wig. When he say the wig bad. I be wanting to look at the wig and parks the wig be up.

[C]

But I'm glad and Mona, to your point, like me personally, I don't read the comments, but if there's something that needs to be addressed, I feel like the. The leaders of the show can address me.

[E]

I was gonna say how do you.

[C]

Improve then if it's. If I'm lacking somewhere in.

[A]

On your off time, not on your discussion. Oh, okay. Yeah, we'll do another time. A group chat. Right.

[C]

Call me later.

[D]

Yo, what's up with the group chat? Mona? We've been trying. We've been trying to catch you in the group chat.

[A]

We got rid of Mona so fast.

[D]

Turned up green. You ishtus. Why? Cuz you came in blue when he.

[A]

We don't do green bubbles.

[E]

First of all, I do not have an Android. Yuck, yuck. Why would I have Android?

[C]

So what happened?

[E]

I have. I added another phone. Right. And I'm not. Mark, please. I used to be a drug dealer. I feel comfortable with a couple phones. I feel like I'm still in the mix when I go like this. Hold on. All right, let me see, hold on. I still feel good about my shit. You know what I mean?

[C]

It's like carrying money.

[E]

Yeah, like. But no, I added a phone and I guess the iclouds connect or something. So it's like fucking up the imessage on the other one. I don't know. I don't speak iPhone. I just get them.

[B]

You gotta call ICE for these.

[E]

Yeah, I do, I do. Because yeah, I don't have an Android. I don't know why it's doing it. And then I feel like when I would crack jokes, y' all wouldn't laugh. So I'm like, these niggas don't deserve me. So I stopped.

[A]

Well, we got rid of you. Yeah, first.

[E]

And then y' all jokes are so like, boy, oh, basketball, basketball, football. Like you got a different group chat is all right. And it's very frequent. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. It's like, boys, I'm taking a nap.

[A]

Yo, speaking of basketball, how about them Knicks?

[D]

Yes, they won the basketball league trophy. Big brothers, big sisters league.

[A]

They said the secret word basketball. Time to hit the round of applause.

[B]

That was a good ass game, though.

[A]

The New York knicks are your 2025 cup champ. Damn. Short ass. Applause.

[D]

Cup Champions.

[C]

What's the cup name?

[A]

What is the cup name? I don't know what the cup name is.

[C]

It's a name for it, right?

[B]

Sure.

[D]

I don't know the name of the division.

[C]

Nobody knows.

[D]

Yeah, because it don't matter.

[E]

That was a great game, though.

[C]

The Ruffles, Doritos.

[A]

Cup Champions.

[D]

It's not even that.

[A]

Well. The T shirt and the hats that were made that we were wearing said Cup Champions.

[C]

Emirates. NBA Cup.

[E]

The Emirates. Yes.

[C]

In America.

[D]

The Champions of the Gulf Y. Proud of that? You proud of that? As a fan? Are you proud of that? You happy with yourself?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[D]

Man, they was out there smiling.

[A]

I'm very. I'm very happy about it.

[D]

They giving speeches and I'm extremely.

[A]

I'm extremely happy about it.

[C]

Who won that last year?

[A]

The Bucks.

[D]

And the year before that? The Lakers.

[E]

The Lakers.

[C]

The Lakers?

[E]

The Milwaukee Bucks.

[D]

Those are good signs.

[A]

That was your gotcha moment.

[D]

No, no, no.

[A]

That was your got.

[E]

Ooh.

[D]

Who won?

[A]

You can't even name. You can't even.

[D]

No, I think his point is the teams that win it don't do shit at the end of the year.

[A]

Mark, I don't even want to hear from your sub 500 team, fan.

[D]

We're not sub 500.

[A]

What, are y' all above 500?

[D]

Like, three games behind y'? All. Relax.

[E]

He talking about the Sixers.

[D]

Yeah, we play y' all tonight, and.

[E]

We gonna kick ass tonight.

[A]

Last night, Embiid is injured.

[D]

But Embiid's injured.

[A]

Spray the stuff.

[C]

What else is going on?

[A]

Why do I hear all of these voices from other fans of other teams?

[D]

We just trying to manage the public's expectations.

[A]

I don't understand why I'm hearing from Sixers fans and Laker fans.

[D]

I'd rather be Laker. You know what?

[A]

Like, it's. Nobody asked you what you rather be. All you gotta do is shut the fuck up and let a Knick fan talk about a Nick win.

[D]

All right? Talk about your big brothers, big sister.

[A]

So, yes, unless you were alive before 73, you never saw the Knicks win. Shit. So, yes, there's a Nick almost curse in watching, thinking that you can't win when something is on the line. So I watched them lose the cup last year. I watched them lose the cup the year before. You play the teams they play put in front of you. It is a thing. In the middle of the season, they kept winning. I think they're tied for. Because they don't count the cup game. The cup game doesn't count on the record. So they think they're tied for the longest win streak currently in the NBA right now. For Nick fans that watched Tibbs go and was unsure of the new Mike Brown style of play and how that would look and how incorporating a bench into the game would look like using these games as like practice to again gain chemistry, learn how some of these niggas play. That was a really, really, really good game against a great San Antonio young team. Yeah, yeah, that San Antonio team. Me and Corey was watching the game.

[B]

They was up there.

[C]

Was up the other day.

[A]

That San Antonio team is a real threat for sure. Some somebody's going to have a hard time with them in the seven game series. Not just because of Castle, but vessel. Anybody with braids on the Spurs. Anybody with braids on the spurs is a problem. It's a complete problem to deal with. Homeboy. The draft pick, Harper.

[B]

Yeah, he was hooping.

[A]

He's tough. De' Aaron Fox wouldn't be. Smug, arrogant, long fucking ass. So yeah, watching that game, me and Corey, it felt good to see the Knicks show up against a team like that. Yes. And when am I putting a bunch of stock in winning the cup up? No, and apparently neither are they. They opted not to hang the banner.

[D]

Good for them.

[B]

I think they should.

[E]

That's crazy.

[C]

Listen, we play like you said, we play whatever games is in front of us. There's an in season tournament that they made. We play that tournament, we win that tournament. I don't see no point in trying to just downplay it like, yo, we ain't do. It's still something. The rest of the league had an opportunity to win it and none of y' all did.

[B]

Some other batters up there who. Who it's also.

[A]

No, it's Billy Joel is up there.

[B]

It's one of them young kids.

[C]

It's not trash.

[E]

Hard team to beat.

[D]

Billy Joel the guard makes sense.

[A]

As a New Yorker, I understand not hanging the hanging. As a New Yorker, I get it. As a league partner, I don't. I'm not sure the Lakers wanted to hang that band either, but because they were playing nice with the league and it's the first one, that's who's up there.

[B]

If Harry Styles could be up there, then Parks.

[A]

You shut your mouth. Saying Harry Styles. He's got a banner up. Does not have a yes. What did you say? Parks?

[B]

Hold on, I'll tell you.

[C]

Billy Joel makes sense.

[B]

Yes, that makes sense.

[C]

Maybe even Springsteen or Something. If Harry Styles got a banner in the Garden.

[B]

He does banner yo. 15 consecutive nights at the Garden.

[C]

Yep.

[E]

And that's something that happened.

[D]

That's a lot of nights.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You get a band, that's a half a month.

[A]

If you get Atlanta, you do that.

[C]

You talking about.

[E]

Is that a residency question?

[D]

As a Knicks fan. As a Knicks fan, obviously, a championship would be a successful season. Is anything short of a championship a successful season in your mind?

[A]

You make the Finals.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Just making the final. That's okay.

[A]

Make the finals. The west is loaded. Make the finals. The east appears to be weak. You have to make the Finals.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You had your transition years last year, in the year before. Before, there's teams that have taken a leap. Cleveland taking a step back. Detroit looks tough. The Magic. Magic look tough. You have to make the finals. If you do not make the Finals, it is a bust. But in terms of just watching your team play basketball, we drafted the little white boy, Tyler Kick. He's playing. He looks great.

[C]

He looks good.

[A]

They're playing him with Jalen Brunson, right? He's a backup. His nickname is Tyler the Creator because of the assist. But he's. He's a backup point guard. So Tim couldn't figure out. Yeah, I love that. Tibbs couldn't figure out a way to get him on the court. Now we watching him play with Jalen Brunson, OG looks like an All Star. Sorry, RJ Barrett. I forgot all about who they traded, who we traded for og. OG is like that.

[C]

It worked out for both teams.

[A]

And he had 30. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

RJ's doing good. RG's killing over there.

[A]

Yeah, he's doing good. But OG had 30. Mitch, you want to see him play and be healthy. There's mad things that Nick fans took away from this. I know the rest of the league could laugh and the fans of other teams could laugh, but as a Knick fan, congratulations. Thinking Finals or Finals? Thinking finals or busts.

[C]

Joking. Like busting balls. Y' all look good. I think that y' all got the pieces. I don't know how it's going to come down to the wire, because it's more the X and O's when the playoffs start. And I don't know how good Jalen Brunson is going to be able to lead them, mentally lead them, because he leads by example on the court, but I don't know if he's going to be able to corral the troops as the point guard to get y' all over the hump. But y' all look really, really good.

[D]

You look really good. Knicks look good.

[A]

Yo, I'm not taking anything more than that from. From the win.

[D]

The Knicks look good, and this is your year. I mean, the east, if there's a year to get to the finals, this year, like you said, Milwaukee, Indiana, Boston, the teams that I think would be giving you the most competition, maybe not Milwaukee at this point are. Are down. I think this is your year. This is your pathway. I think Orlando's gonna give you a little bit of a tough, tough battle, but I think y' all the best team in the east standing. And I don't think. And I don't think it's that close.

[A]

Till Greek freak gets to Miami.

[D]

I was gonna say, unless there's a trade.

[A]

That's gonna be annoying. That's gonna be annoying. We gonna whip they ass, too.

[C]

That's a headache.

[A]

Don't give a fuck. That's gonna be a headache. It'll be a headache. We gonna whip they ass, too. Now hold up for a minute. Now. I didn't wait my entire life for a Knicks victory to see Josh Hart stick his thumb up Jalen Brunson's ass. Like some. We gotta.

[B]

We gotta spice thing. No, like the ice spice thing.

[A]

Yeah, I guess a little spicier. Yo, Josh Hart stuck his thumb in Jalen Brunson's ass. Jalen Brunson turned around like, you stop telling.

[E]

In the hole.

[A]

Yeah, no, it was on camera 4, 8K to clip.

[C]

No, it was Jalen Brunson. Look. Turned around like, yo, stop telling.

[A]

Yo, we got to talk about them little college boy games.

[D]

But they've been friends since freshman year.

[A]

That didn't go to college like me. Have a certain perspective of them college boy games. Like, speak to it. You college.

[C]

I went to college, and they saw sticking they thumb in my ass. We ain't play that game in college. You out your mind.

[A]

You probably just stopped talking to him.

[C]

They fell out.

[E]

What's that other video came out and it was athletes. They were like, humping on each other. They were in college, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah, Remember that?

[E]

Yeah, they them college get free pulling.

[C]

Dicks and all that goofy shit. That being white people, though.

[A]

Nah, I'm not just going Jaylen over.

[E]

It's probably white. It's border.

[D]

Villanova is a very white Villanova.

[E]

It's not just white people. It's boredom with a little bit of homosexuality sprinkled in.

[C]

Hey, Mo, I done been bored. I've been bored as fuck. They ain't never crossed my Mind, they ain't never sprinkled in none of that.

[E]

Y' all didn't hear the rest of the. It's boredom and then it's a little bit of homosexuality.

[C]

Yeah, I'm saying that part ain't never got mixed in.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Well, what college you went to for homeschool? You didn't go to college, right?

[C]

I did. You went to college.

[A]

What college you went to?

[C]

Don't worry about all that. My business out there.

[A]

Yeah, you went to one of them.

[E]

I see DC Cops.

[A]

Get off your couch.

[E]

Why you sitting home on the couch?

[C]

Y, you could be earnest.

[D]

You could be. I ain't graduated.

[A]

That is definitely the college you went to.

[C]

That's funny. You could be getting paid to learn.

[E]

Why sit at home.

[A]

Oh, look at you.

[E]

You ain't doing.

[C]

Yo, that's.

[E]

Remember when they found him to do like, a political commercial that was so lit. Y' all remember that? They found those two people from those commercials, redid them on some vote for this person. The Democrats did that.

[A]

Y talking about Charlie clips and DNA.

[C]

That's what I thought.

[A]

When they were.

[B]

Rapping for Biden on the basketball court.

[E]

I am not talking about that.

[A]

I wonder if they regret that.

[E]

Yes, they do.

[D]

Why?

[E]

Why not?

[D]

Huh?

[A]

Some shit shouldn't be able to live on for the rest of time. Like. Like some of my love of hip hop episode. You shouldn't be able to just pull certain shit up 20 years later and see that same nigga at being a nut.

[E]

Joe's great TV, though.

[A]

It was what it was. A dog.

[C]

Dog might not have been able to feed, like, whatever.

[A]

I got a few regrettable moments and commercials.

[E]

And what's your number one most regrettable.

[C]

Moment the football jersey ever.

[E]

Gotta be number one TV though.

[A]

Most regrettable on your favorite on TV was every. Everything from those earlier levels. Hip hop seasons. I'm not mad at when I return.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

When I return me and saying I'm cool with all that.

[E]

At what point was you wearing them big ass hats? Was that the return or the beginning?

[A]

Big ass hats. We used to wear fedoras.

[E]

Case in the airport.

[A]

No, that. They didn't catch me. I posted that picture.

[E]

That's what I like about you, though. Like, it's like, y' all want to.

[A]

Talk about the hats?

[E]

Look how big the container for these. And I walk around with the this.

[A]

My life is in phases and segments.

[E]

So the return was the heads.

[A]

Yeah, that was season one.

[E]

So what part you was Fedora Joe a boy.

[A]

What part you ain't like anything in.

[C]

The earlier season when you had the vessel.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God. Burning by the stuff.

[B]

Nah, we needed that for the. We needed it for the Earl sweatshirt skit. We needed it.

[E]

But, you know, the best moments is when you quiet and you just making a face. A lot of that is still viral now, people. They all in the memes, you know what I mean? You quiet, just looking at them like the couple.

[C]

The couple's therapy face.

[E]

Oh, my God. That's.

[C]

That's the one. Classic.

[E]

That's legendary.

[D]

For the rest of our lives.

[C]

That's the one right there, bro.

[E]

And then it's so good because it's not even, like, homophobic. It's just good. Like, it's just a good joint. Like, it's not hateful. It's funny.

[A]

And.

[E]

Oh, no, you know, that's how we looked at home. Like the. Everybody was like, what's going on?

[A]

I can't believe that whole house knew except for me.

[E]

That's the crazy part. This nigga looked clueless to this shit. He listened like, whoa, what?

[D]

I'm.

[A]

I'm the only one that know what transition mean around here? These. Is just listening to the story. I feel like that word hyped the story a bit, but whatever. Y' all got any regrettable moments y'.

[D]

All want to talk about on tv?

[C]

Yeah. Three hookah pipes.

[E]

Oh, I recently saw that. I thought that was AI Boy.

[C]

No, that was.

[E]

I thought that was AI Boy like this with three pipes in his mouth. Is that. Is that.

[F]

He did that?

[A]

No, that was actually Ice.

[E]

But was that, like.

[C]

I couldn't get a. A word to say.

[E]

Were you, like, drunk? Were you drunk, Ice? Was you, like, up?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Yes, he was drunk.

[D]

When he gets drunk, that's when he puts the pipes down.

[C]

No. Hey, hey, hey, big dog.

[A]

You good?

[C]

You good?

[A]

Funny. He was handling them right. Now. The funny shit. He took care of them three hookah pipes. Smoke was coming from everyone, like, damn, boy, that boy can suck, ain't it?

[C]

He ain't got no ass in a harmonica.

[A]

Oh, that.

[D]

That boy right there.

[A]

Kenny G with the pipes. Oh, God damn.

[B]

Absolutely disgusting.

[A]

Yeah, sometimes you got to let the hookah tips know. Gotta let them know who the real boss is.

[C]

You want some Christmas gifts?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, you. And it was the short hookah pipe, so he was gripping it.

[C]

All right, all right, all right. The girthy ones.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Pause.

[A]

What about you, Mark? Any. Any. Any regrettable moments? Moments besides your boxer choice for the day?

[D]

I'm comfortable with my joint you can't.

[A]

No, you're not.

[C]

You can't.

[A]

That's a lie. No, you're not.

[C]

You are lying.

[A]

That's a lie.

[B]

They're not comfortable.

[C]

Cotton starts cutting you.

[D]

Yeah. Word.

[A]

It's not even real cotton.

[C]

It should start cutting your thigh. Legs getting dumb as.

[A]

Nah, your legs is dumb as shit right now.

[B]

You gotta keep tucking them in.

[A]

You got like I'm doing today?

[D]

These are my big jeans.

[C]

See?

[D]

All right.

[A]

He don't know what big mean either.

[C]

That's crazy.

[E]

Mark got some jeans.

[C]

My big jeans. My big jeans.

[E]

Y' all don't have regrettable moments on here or nowhere. Yeah, I feel like you're not gonna give it up anyway.

[A]

There wasn't never nobody.

[E]

Shut up. We don't have regrettable moments like you just wish you didn't say or do. I was good. You regret a moment you about to get into a fist fight with your coworker.

[D]

N. That's fine. That worked out great for me.

[E]

Had to grab you by your. Your belt buckle.

[D]

It wasn't a plan, but it worked out just fine. I wish it had happened, but I don't regret it again.

[E]

Call me a sucker again.

[D]

I was thinking about. I wish if it happened. I do. I do.

[C]

Oh, he passed out.

[D]

No, no. Because I couldn't control that. Maybe I'm trying to think if there's, like, CNN moments, maybe there's probably some shit I did I can't think about. I think I. I know what it was. It's not even a big deal. It's just I. I cried on tv, but not on purpose. I was literally. I was having an eye irritation and I should have stopped, but I started talking about the topic and the tears, and then. And the tear came down. I thought it was obvious that my eye was irritated, but then the conservatives, like, framed it and made it seem.

[A]

Like passionate about this.

[D]

Liberal pussy cries when talking about liberal bitch ass nigga.

[C]

Yeah, I thought you was talking about when the lady maced you. You ain't cried.

[D]

I did not cry then. I was too busy running.

[E]

He dipped that shit. He dumped that shit. He ain't getting no mouth.

[D]

Actually.

[A]

Actually, I have been reading some shit. I got a question for you, Mark. They been on your ass, but mainly because you sit next to me.

[D]

I was about to say 90% of me.

[A]

Mainly because you sit next to me. When you work here. How do you deal with that?

[C]

Who been on your ass?

[D]

The people.

[A]

The Internet. Don't let Mark say nothing righteous because he sits next to me up here.

[D]

Right. And that's their comeback. If I say anything, it's like, but you ain't say nothing to Joe and blah, blah, blah, whatever. The thing is, I ignore it because part of it is they be wrong half the time. They don't actually watch the show, Right? You can say some. We could all be like, oh, come on, man. But they don't hear that part. You know what I mean? Or they clip out the whole thing that actually happened. Or sometimes I'm not the police. Like, it ain't my job to police everybody's speech up here.

[E]

Not to mention we having a conversation. So this nigga give his opinion. You can't say, oh, that's hard. But what the you supposed to say after? I will say they think I laugh.

[D]

At inappropriate jokes, though.

[E]

I mean, but you do.

[C]

You do.

[E]

But he has a dark sense of humor. And then it's. It's funny.

[D]

But to me, it's funny.

[A]

Black sense of humor.

[E]

When I meet people and they ask about y', all, the most people they ask about is y' all too. But for sure, with you, like, it's always a thing like. Like, they like, oh, I just can't. Because people were surprised that you did this or whatever. And what I always find myself doing is. Is like educating people on how much of a you are. Right? Because I always tell people, like, yo, he's a from North Philly. You see him in those conservative spaces where he has to be a certain way, but that this is something where he can relax.

[C]

He get to be him.

[E]

This is being him. You know what I mean? That's why the episode where he got that pan of chicken and stole all that food was important because that's some real North Philly. This is who this is. This the. That's going slide thighs back one by one to get him the out the door. Loved how you did that, King. They was almost not on these ratted. That's what we need to talk about.

[D]

That's the real.

[E]

Why did people tell. Why would you mention that when you lift your coat up, it was. Was a tray of thighs. Shut the up about it.

[D]

I don't even wear coats. See?

[E]

No. The person that discovered the thighs you hid in the back.

[A]

Fair enough.

[E]

That's who told on you.

[A]

You guys.

[D]

So I'm done. I was moving on.

[E]

I was just letting y' all know he a.

[A]

It's time to celebrate Charlemagne.

[E]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[A]

Let's go.

[E]

Charlamagne.

[A]

Let's go. All right, all right, all right. All of the skeptics out there everybody wondering about Charlemagne's contract. Hey, it has just been announced that Charlemagne. Not the Breakfast Club. It doesn't say the Breakfast Club, Right? It says Charlemagne has inked his New deal for $200 million. Round of applause. What a time to be alive.

[C]

Don't say rock on name no more.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Say rock.

[A]

Yeah. Don't play with me.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Now, who shot who not tell me who rock who sell out you tell me who flopped, who clapped the blue drop, who Jews got. Can't stop touching my name on a blend.

[A]

All right, y' all don't look as excited as y' all supposed to be.

[D]

Y' all don't look.

[A]

I need more excitement from the room right now. There's a lot going on out here, buddy.

[D]

This will be clipped out of context.

[A]

Yo, this boy's brain.

[C]

Hey, yo, this nigga's brain is different, yo.

[A]

What is he saying?

[C]

You got hyper to the. I'm coming out and you ain't too.

[D]

I'm just tell. Y' all just gonna be crazy.

[A]

Mark, you don't have to always make a gay joke.

[D]

I didn't say a word. It's this guy.

[A]

Actually, I'm looking for you to jump in. Charlamagne is your good friend.

[D]

Morning.

[A]

This is amazing news.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yo, shout out to the niggas that find samples out there. Yo, thanks.

[B]

This ain't the most hidden one I.

[A]

Know, but I still think that. I still think that it took a talent to say, you know what?

[C]

Slow that down a little bit.

[A]

Bring that over here. Yeah, let's see how that grooves.

[D]

Shout out to Diddy for that one.

[A]

Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see.

[D]

I got a clip, by the way. He was on. He's on a cover of Forbes. And it's in the Forbes spread that it was revealed. The 200 million dollar five year deal.

[E]

That's cool.

[D]

Charlemagne Fire for him and his Black Effect Network.

[C]

Network.

[A]

Here we go. I got you.

[F]

I don't have to fill anybody's shoes. I don't have to wear anybody's crown.

[D]

I got.

[F]

I'm building my own.

[A]

Yeah. Love it, man.

[D]

Well, listen right fast. Hit me on the side of inside of Charlemagne, Inc.

[E]

Right?

[D]

You have your Iheart deal, your podcast network. From what I'm saying, you're a 51% owner in that podcast network joint venture with iHeart. What's going on with the podcast network, man?

[C]

How you liking that?

[D]

What's inside that business? How are you able to run it? What Are you learning?

[F]

I love it. You know, five years ago. Well, speaking of Combat Jack, you know.

[A]

Rest in peace, Combat Jack.

[F]

I'm an equity owner in Loudspeaker Network.

[A]

Chris Moreau.

[F]

I credit Chris a lot because Chris told me 13 years ago, two things you're gonna have to do is write a book and start a podcast. I always knew I was gonna write a book just because I love reading, I love writing. That was a no brainer for podcasting. I was a little arrogant on it. I was like, why I gotta do a podcast? I do morning radio. And he was like, I'm telling you, this is where the culture is going. This is where media. I don't have to fill anybody's shoes.

[E]

Oh, oops.

[A]

I felt that.

[F]

And this is where media is going. And I started to think about it. I'm like, I have been fired from radio four times. It would be cool to have my own platform. And, you know, just in case this Breakfast Club thing don't work out, at least I still have a voice. And so that's when me and Andrew Short started bringing idiots, you know, 13 years ago. And then, you know, helping Loudspeaker go out there and get, you know, other talent and bring them on the network. You know, Chris gave me equity and Loudspeaker. So I always saw how the podcast business was growing. Not just being in front of the microphone, but behind, you know, behind the scenes as well. And so when I started to look at, like, what Bill Simmons was doing with the ringer, and I was looking at like the bar stools and the gimlets and wondering and all of these different platforms, I was like, yo, we don't have a space like that for.

[D]

Us, like a bet for podcast.

[F]

And that's what, that's exactly what my mentality was like, I want to have, I want to create the, the bet, you know, for podcasting. Because the other thing I was seeing was like, you had so many podcasts and this is where media is going. But they were kind of like more focused on video than they were audio. And I don't think that they were necessarily connecting the dots the way that they could as far as the advertising dollars are concerned. And so when I was looking at, you know, doing my new deal with Iheart, you know, I was like, yeah, I don't want to just be talent anymore. Like, I want to create this podcast network.

[D]

Is this you growing into? You know, I remember 2018, I believe you wanted a podcast with Torre and you were mentioning how Steve Harvey inspirations you Wanted to get into the executive producer lane. Right?

[A]

You're.

[D]

That was years ago. You're now in that.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Is this where you want it to be?

[F]

Is this where you are fully immersed in it? You know, been there for the last five years. You know, whether it's executive producing, you know, movies, like my own television shows on Comedy Central, executive producing, you know, audio scripted content with the company that me and Kevin Hart got with SBH Productions, executive producing these, you know, podcasts that we got on Black Effect. Like, you know, the name of the game is, but they were kind of like more the name of the game is ip. So I'm fully immersed in my executive producer bag. But, you know, it all starts with the Black Effect Podcast Network. Being successful at that, you know, showed people like, oh, okay, he does know what he's doing, you know, in the business space. But, you know, I can't take, you know, all of the credit at all. Like, you know, my good sister Dolly Bishop, who is the president of the Black Effect Podcast Network, man, once again, divine, right. When I had division vision for this, God told me immediately, all right, go get $.

[D]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Go get Dolly.

[F]

Dolly's great with talent. Dolly's great at business. Dolly has been, you know, a manager, an assistant and producer.

[A]

You get the drift. Yeah, you get the drift.

[B]

Congrats again.

[A]

Big news.

[D]

Congratulations.

[A]

Congratulations. Worth every cent. Worth every cent. Worth every penny of it. This is great, great, great news for many reasons, for everybody. Yeah, for many reasons. Many reasons. Where do you even. Where do you begin?

[B]

It's great for Charlemagne. That's one. One place to start. It's great for everybody under the Black Effect Network. It's great for the field of podcasting in general.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Another self made. I don't know how self made he is, but another black executive to add to the list that is moving behind the scenes and not necessarily in the talent realm that we. We could just chalk up. And he's still young.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

And we watched it like we've been out for a long time. You know what I mean? Just to come behind such a big personality, such a legend, and to still find your own way. And I feel like I like about Charlamagne is it was a time like I really couldn't stand him. Like, the way he did things, the way he spoke to people. And I feel like he grew and he shared how he grew with people, and I think that was important for a black man, to see a black man go to therapy and actually kind of change you know what I mean? Like, he comes on happier. He doesn't seem. You know what I mean? You know, like, Charlamagne is not the same. Charlamagne make lil mama cry. It's not the same guy. And I enjoy that. I think that it's more important to see somebody's honestly getting through life versus these little perfect things people put out. Cause in reality, you do have to change reality. You do do, asshole shit. It's just in reality, you're not on a camera and people can't re watch it. So I'm here for Charlamagne Grove. I told him that when I first met him. Like, I respect how he did shit, though. Congratulations, Charlamagne.

[C]

And we always hear these stories, like, you know, these companies giving them these type of deals. It's never one of us to land one of them deals. So that's was the impressive part to me. Like, I love seeing that. That's inspirational to everybody else coming up, like, yo, all right, we can get that.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Like, you always see them getting them.

[A]

But that should be the start, right? How do you see it? And this is for the creative community. How do you see it and not be inspired? Yep. How do you see it and it not be a sign that.

[B]

Keep going.

[A]

There are multiple, multiple ways for this to work. You don't have to subscribe to another man's blueprint. You can do things, a plethora of ways, and end up with this life changing lineage, changing money. Like I said, as a black man, like Mona said, you got to see it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You got to see it in front of your face from the start. Three, if you're a content creator, awesome. Awesome for Charlemagne, awesome for Charlamagne, the Breakfast Club, and. And all of the pods that made it over there to Netflix, right?

[B]

Mm.

[A]

You got anything, Mark, man, I'm just.

[D]

I'm just so proud of him. I reached out to him this morning and told him that from. From the beginning. I just. I heard the haters last week, you know, when he was kind of being playful or coy is probably a better word about renewing his Iheart deal. And all of a sudden, all the experts and the predictors who.

[A]

The haters.

[D]

Tasha K. There's so many people who think they're experts on this and, yeah, they're gonna renew. They're not renewing his deal. They're not. Y' all don't know what the fuck you talking about. They don't understand how valuable he is to that entity and how much control he has over that space. And so to see the deal, I didn't know what numbers to expect. And I do have some questions for you about sort of how deals are sort of organized, but like, to see that size of a deal and what he's able to do, that a big part of it is extended and growing. The Black Effect podcast network. And like, he said, he wants it to be the BET a podcast, which I think actually could be even more.

[C]

Than it could be bigger.

[D]

You know, I think it's amazing, man. I'm just so. I'm proud of him and I'm excited for him, and it's just great news all around. I got nothing else to say.

[B]

I like the part about not really it going the way that he maybe thought it was gonna go, like, as being an on air personality. I didn't necessarily want to do podcasts, I didn't want to do books, blah, blah. But it worked for him.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So in the keep going thing, also, you're gonna run into different shit. You gotta try different shit. And if you stay the course, it.

[D]

May work out for you, especially if you're open to. Not to get over the arrogance, because what he said is like, I'm on radio, I'm on a huge platform. Why would I need a podcast? As a TV person had the same idea.

[A]

I love that.

[D]

You know, like, I'm on tv. I'll never do this. I'll never do. But you have to.

[A]

You don't know what you'll do. Exactly. You have no idea.

[B]

You don't know what to work.

[C]

I told y' all I would never do a podcast.

[D]

Right.

[C]

That was actually the name of my podcast. I don't fuck with. I didn't fuck with these.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But.

[D]

And knowing the direction of culture, your.

[C]

Life gonna push you. But I think, I think, and we say this oftentimes, like, as you start to grow, you kind of get out of your own way and you can make those pivots and you could be malleable to doing new shit.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? I think that we just get comfortable in the one thing that we know how to do, and we know how to do it well. And we might be the best at it, but it's so many other levels to the shit that when you start climbing up that ladder, you start being able, oh, it's a room over here. It's a room over here. I can go in those rooms and see what's going on.

[B]

And one thing doesn't have to stop the other.

[A]

True.

[B]

Yeah. Because he's still active, doing what he loves doing, what he started doing, doing broadcast media.

[D]

Yeah. The thing I also love about Charlamagne and about Joe, it's the thing I. When I watch people, I watch their talent, but I also watch people's work ethic. And I see so many people who are not successful, and I can almost always draw a through line to their work ethic.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

How many hours are you willing to work? How much are you willing to do? What are you willing to sacrifice? And I watch people bust their ass. And as somebody who works hard, like, I know what that looks like and I know what it doesn't look like. And I find most people who are not successful who have talent, you know, at some point, if you keep pushing, you'll get there. But sometimes people, they don't always push as hard as they can. So just watching Charlamagne work this hard and to be willing to grind and to play the long game, this shit's. Shit's impressive.

[C]

I also want to shout out just the lack of arrogance and the lack of ego, like, hearing everybody say all that shit about you, you know, what you over here working on, Right? Like, you know, a lot of people would've, hey, yo, what do y' all know I'm doing, Like, just to shut up and just let people talk.

[A]

I just said that last week. I just said that last week. Sometimes it's cool to just shut up and let the work talk. You don't have to rush out to be seen. You don't have to reply to every comment and hater. Just if you're doing the work, the work will show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Facts. I gotta commend so much. This is so loaded for me. For a lot of years, you prayed that the people at this level would start to share what they make.

[D]

Mm, that's so true.

[A]

The companies that May give you the money, and it ain't but so many of them talking about this type of dollar and this type of coin, they may encourage you to keep it quiet. Actually, no May about it. I'm telling you that they'll probably put it in the contract that you can't talk about it. They have no problem giving it to you, but they don't want you to throw up that Thundercat symbol in the air. Because now there are tangible metrics and facts and numbers. For no matter what level you are, you may not be at the Charlemagne level, you may not be at the Joe level, but whatever level you at, you can now look to the top of the top and say, okay, that's what it's supposed to look like. This is what I want it to look like. For me, it could give you the cojones to say something in those private meetings that you might not have said before because you having a hard time figuring out where the value is. How's this money being made? Where is it coming from? Why are you in figure it out mode? This is the equivalent of. And I hope this is a trend. I hope this trend continues. It's the equivalent of Mahomes looking at Burrow and Burrow looking at Lamar, and Lamar looking at Kirk. Cousins name is in here somewhere too.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's like, whoever you are, Flacco, like, if everybody just continues to do what they're supposed to be doing, then the next man up should break it and the next man up should break it, and so forth and so on. One, two. I'm always with the disruptor winning. Mm. And Netflix is disrupting.

[C]

Yeah, big time.

[A]

Netflix is. Is. This is awesome, man. This Netflix is. Sending signals to other companies that needed a lot of convincing. Lord knows how many hours are spent behind the scenes by really talented people convincing somebody that this is what they should do, or giving them a download about what's valuable out here. How this could 10x100x1000x something. When you got a Netflix to come and pour all of this money in, it's a smoke signal to everybody else. Everybody else that was too arrogant. Everybody else that felt like my position is so cemented that I don't have to talk to you podcasters, you streamers, you content creators with your cooking shows. I don't have to. Yeah, sorry, sorry, Google. See, because Google might not listen to me and they might not listen to 10 of us and they might not listen to a thousand of us because they might not give a fuck. But when Netflix comes, yep, they hear them loud and clear and does essentially what Spotify did in 2018, which, while we're talking about it, boy, what a great time that was for content creation. Lot of people made money. A lot of money was flying around in that pandemic. And it wasn't just PPP loans, it was content. Niggas is in the house consuming shit.

[D]

I'm mad I missed that.

[A]

Spotify niggas is throwing big, big, big buck around. Other people start to throw big buck around. That's how this goes.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

So if Netflix comes and throws a whole bunch of money at barstool, iheart.

[C]

What sector? Yeah, just one sector.

[A]

In. In. In one swipe with a pin, change the Game, follow landscape. Now what are the rest of you gonna do?

[C]

Follow the leader. Got to.

[A]

Ah, they don't gotta do well. You'd be surprised how stubborn people are. Yeah, but there's a think tank happening when. When there's. Hold up, let me. Let me talk. There's a meeting going on somewhere with some important people that missed a few steps. Because that's the point, too. For Netflix to be able to do it in the manner that they did it, it mean a bunch of y' all missed a bunch of fucking steps. I've been on YouTube since 2006. Maybe 2007, right? No, I had to be 06 before Moon Music 3. I was on YouTube 2006. So you talking about 20 years somewhere. And that's. That's my story as a success. You talking about all of these content creators, successful and unsuccessful, with no choice but to use YouTube as the vehicle and outlet. That's where the eyes are. So now it don't matter what the deal says. Take your little AdSense check and get the fuck out of my face. Why? Music industry it's so. Even if we not talking money, your algorithm ain't even helping nobody. If anything, some people could argue that the shit is more restrictive than anything.

[B]

And the ebbs and flows.

[A]

Some people could say that y' all redlining back there and doing all this divisive, pardon me, divisive shit is gonna keep ish in the real estate politic, but we ain't gonna show it to nobody else. It's gonna keep ice in the icloud, but we ain't gonna show it to nobody else. It's gonna keep market it's little cnn, but not show it to nobody else. Go keep me in the black rapper box, not show it to nobody else. Then why are we here? Because there's no alternative. Because creators don't have a choice. More choices is great always. It is absolutely great. And it's great when the other choice could look at you and say, I got just as many eyes as you. And you had every streamer, podcaster, content creator in your lap for X amount of years, and you did nothing to grow the community.

[C]

Let him go. That's what you did. You need me out of this.

[A]

So now you let them leave. This is different from Spotify trying to gate their video. Because then it felt like, all right, you losing your presence a little bit, taking it off YouTube, only going to Spotify you. You almost kind of feel like you're leaving yourself to die. Like, what is your audience supposed to Do.

[C]

It's a big bet.

[A]

Not a really big bet. A really big bet. And it take a lot of coin to get a bunch of people to subscribe to that. People want their eyes. Creators want their eyes. And the visibility. Yep. Not so much with Netflix, though. Oh, buddy, not so. I don't think I hear nobody out there saying, who's gonna see me now? It's about, for me anyway, championing those that can get that popping. The same way I would have liked somebody to champion me on Spotify when I was on my mission. I almost need y' all to make this work. Netflix, whatever bet they put in, whatever the investment is, Flip that, flip that. So they come right back out to the rest of the people and say, hey, let's give this a shot. We starting with the big dogs. We starting with the networks and the Bill Simmons and. And we starting there. But I don't think that's the end of it. I don't think that's the end of it.

[D]

No.

[A]

So this should be a really good day. If you are in content creation, if you are one of the tools, maybe not so much. But there's a lot of fourth quarter scattering going on, I can tell you that much. There's fourth quarter scattering. Boy, some of y' all are in a leap of trouble. A leap of trouble. It almost looked like shit. D. I said it almost looked like creator unity could be coming soon.

[D]

How great would that be?

[C]

That happened.

[A]

And I. I listen, in 2030, I got one of the big dogs not being very important. One of you big dogs. Somebody gotta be the new SoundCloud. It has to happen.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

It always does. Yeah.

[A]

Part of that happening. Oh, go ahead.

[E]

Is.

[A]

A Charlamagne announcement, a Kaiser Nat announcement, a Joe Budden announcement. Anybody? Shit, if Mr. Beast announced something, I'm going to knock on somebody door. Don't even really fucking name it, black man. Cause it don't matter. Anybody in the field, it's. It's time to knock on doors. It's time to do rattling. It's time to have the conversations. It's time for people to circle back.

[C]

Hey.

[E]

Hey.

[A]

That thing you wanted to. Yeah, no, this is really great. This is really, really, really, really, really great news. YouTube, your move. YouTube, your move.

[D]

Joe. Speaking of Joe Button announcements, I want to congratulate you. We've been talking about Charlamagne, but you had your own announcement this weekend. According to my sources, you're the new morning host on Hot 96.

[B]

According to my text message, just.

[A]

Yeah, mine too.

[C]

Friends of Mine, my barbershop.

[B]

Oh, I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what's funny?

[D]

When.

[A]

When them shits go out, I be thinking, who the hell is going to believe this stuff?

[B]

Saying, everyone believes it.

[D]

Have y' all noticed that he hasn't confirmed or denied it?

[A]

Just for the record, I'm not taking the Hot 97 job. What?

[C]

So my information is bad info?

[E]

What the.

[C]

I just want to make sure we clear.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't know if text messages are gonna hear this, so that's a portion.

[D]

So no chance you're taking this job.

[A]

I'm not in talks to be part of the new Hot 97 Morning Show.

[D]

Very coy.

[C]

I'm not in talks. Very dismissive.

[D]

Yeah, okay. Ian's in talk. I get it.

[C]

I mean, he's very selective.

[E]

With who?

[C]

Oh, you not in talk.

[D]

He's not. See how they do.

[A]

We are not in talks with Hot90. Not to say that we wouldn't be.

[D]

Gotcha. Well, according to Funkmaster Flex, who jokingly.

[A]

Tweeted, 3 years, 65 million. I get why people believed it. Because the numbers started to add up.

[D]

Yeah. It started to make sense. And they said. They said New Yorker, cult following.

[C]

And we'll shake some shit up.

[D]

And we'll shake some up.

[C]

That Sounds like jokes.

[A]

3 million, 6. 3. 3 years, 65 million. Makes it sound like. I can see that. Getting off that couch.

[D]

I can see it.

[E]

Who else has a cult following?

[D]

And here's the other thing.

[C]

Why they can see that?

[A]

What do you mean, baby?

[C]

God bless them for they know not what they do.

[E]

Got you.

[C]

You ain't not getting off no couch for no three years. $65 million.

[A]

Well, no, I wouldn't.

[C]

We know.

[A]

And especially not for five days a week.

[D]

I said, why?

[C]

They see that. But I get it.

[A]

But it's in the world of believability. They believe it. That's all.

[D]

Another reason it was believable to me is because you hadn't told us. But I feel like that tracks. That tracks. I was like, he didn't tell us anything. Which means, more likely, y' all don't.

[A]

Believe that I told y' all. When we shooting a commercial. I told y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

I tell y' all when I'm doing stuff.

[D]

You showed us the commercial. This is the commercial that's gonna air.

[B]

This is coming out tomorrow, so.

[D]

Right.

[C]

The same thing.

[E]

You ain't gotta tell these nothing.

[C]

That's a fact. That part, too.

[E]

Who name back then tell nobody nothing.

[A]

I would, though. Like, if I were taking. If I were taking a gig that was gonna be five days a week.

[D]

You send us a drop.

[A]

I would say something to one of y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

He would text us to drive. This is your boy, Joe Button on Hot 97. Catch me. I think you said, the nigga said y'. All.

[C]

I would say something to one of y'.

[A]

All. How can you spread the word? It wouldn't be a big secret, is all I'm saying. It wouldn't be like, I think that story is so fly. I used to work at Hot 97, so let me ask you. But it'd be like a circle back. I became who I became, and now I'm coming back as. Yeah, it would be something to that.

[C]

Would it be a big secret if you were in talks to take the position at Hot 97?

[A]

All my talks are big secret.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Every talk I ever.

[D]

Exactly, Exactly.

[A]

Every talk I ever.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

All talks. All talks should be big secret, because they just talks. I tell my mom that I don't even prematurely tell her what's going on, because it's just talks.

[C]

That's literally what I told you. Paper it.

[A]

I said paper it.

[C]

The things I got coming up.

[A]

Hey, my favorite two words. Paper it.

[C]

No, ink it, nigga. Yeah, there we go.

[A]

That paper.

[E]

Paper. And I was confused. What the exactly is that?

[D]

But it's in the contract.

[A]

I mean, don't tell me about it. Don't call me with a whole bunch. Yeah, put it on the paper.

[C]

They put it out. Now I get it.

[A]

I think that somebody is doing that as a smokescreen.

[C]

Yeah, because they want you to. They want you to look like an ass when you ain't accept that. 65 Michaels.

[B]

No, they're trying to drive up their own price or something.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's what it's.

[E]

But that's what throw me off, because I think.

[A]

I think I've done well enough to. Where they would understand. Understand that would look like ass if I didn't take that.

[E]

I don't think so either.

[A]

I think they kind of.

[C]

They don't get it, guys.

[E]

Who else has a cult following?

[D]

Well, it's two things, right? Because Flex tweeted. We know from Rory, that cult following New Yorker. That's. We got those clues, and then we got.

[A]

There's a money here. Call Rory, man. Enough of this. Find out.

[B]

Find out the.

[A]

He didn't.

[B]

He put it in the group chat.

[A]

Oh, he did, yes.

[C]

Yeah, he said it.

[A]

Oh, let me look at the group chat. He said who?

[C]

He says, let me say I'm not Gonna say it.

[D]

I'm checking the damn group chat. Did I miss that?

[A]

Oh, and. And old ass.

[E]

All type of crack for the audio listeners. Joe Button got up and said, crap. Crap.

[C]

They said it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

I'm looking.

[C]

You believe that? I don't think that's a good.

[A]

All right, Imani told me what Rory said. Tell me it was much sexier when Rory just was eluding something.

[C]

Yeah, you don't like that? No, I do, kaka.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Damn. Why exactly. Why do that? We know what kaka is, everybody. Damn. I didn't see that in the group chat. Oh, wait, speaking of group chats, I did put the coat that I wanted in the group chat, but everybody ignored that. I put. I put the coat in there. It wasn't a peep. Just scrolled by. Ain't even give me a double heart attack. Nothing.

[E]

Y' all should have put me back.

[D]

In there the coldest. It wasn't. It inspired me to work.

[E]

That coat was all that. That was fire. What kind of fur is that?

[B]

It's not fur. It's leather.

[E]

That's leather.

[A]

No, no, that's fur on that Instagram.

[B]

I thought you said it was leather kind of fur.

[E]

Is that. Do you know the mink or something? That's nice.

[B]

I thought you said it was two leathers.

[A]

I seen it on his, but I don't remember that. That code is. Anyway, back to the group chat.

[E]

Beautiful.

[A]

Okay, I did not know that that was the name in the group chat. Can I spill the beans?

[E]

Yes.

[D]

Nah, no, cuz that's corny. Like, yes.

[B]

Especially when half the room just sit it on it.

[F]

Nah.

[B]

Yeah, dude, because we don't even know if it's real anyway.

[A]

We don't know if that's real. I believe Rory sometimes.

[B]

Yeah, no doubt.

[E]

I can see it.

[A]

I believe that he heard that.

[B]

I could totally see it.

[C]

I can see it.

[B]

I wouldn't quite. That's one of the people shake up.

[A]

Yeah, that's where he threw it off. No, the name that we talking about is not a name that I think is gonna shake up upon announcement.

[B]

I think he's good.

[D]

I think.

[A]

I think it is good.

[C]

I think it could shake up.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I can't say how because if I say how, it's going to lead to them being able to guess, but it can shake up for sure.

[A]

How? Oh, you said you can't say because.

[C]

He was beefing with somebody else. That level of a beef would shake some up.

[D]

Too much. Too much.

[E]

Too much. Too Much.

[C]

All right.

[A]

And we can leave it. We could leave it. I mean, he is New York for sure. Who the. I'll tell you off here, please.

[E]

God damn.

[A]

And listen, Flex said that. Flex said that? Yeah, Flex said that. He's two thirds of the way complete. So this one name we talking about, I assume there will be two more names added, so I can't judge it until I know the collective.

[C]

That makes sense.

[B]

You don't think Flex is one of the names?

[A]

No, no, Absolutely one of the names. No. Flex is up there as Big Dick Daddy. Pause. He is in the.

[D]

He's.

[A]

He is in a new. In a new role. Some of that Charlamagne. Some of that shit Charlamagne just spoke about is.

[B]

I get that.

[C]

I can see that.

[B]

I can still see him wanting to be active on the air, though.

[A]

Flex morning voice sounded like absolute. And it. Flex don't have a voice for morning radio.

[C]

It was too much going on.

[A]

Yeah, it was a lot happening. Shout out to Flex. I'm sure. I'm sure it researched well, but I.

[C]

Don'T want to hear bombs. I don't want to hear, like, yelling. Not in the morning.

[E]

Nah.

[C]

And his voice just wasn't the morning.

[D]

It's not a morning voice. He's perfect for the afternoon, evening, the evening, night. Yeah, yeah, that's.

[A]

That's.

[D]

That's what it is. Joe, if you were to come on air and take this job that you're negotiating right now, who would be your two co hosts? If you had to pick two people, they don't have to be up here. It could be anybody in the world. Or it could be people up here.

[E]

Me.

[D]

You have a morning voice, nigga.

[E]

You ain't have to do that. Go ahead, Joe.

[A]

Well, I'm not taking the job, so. I mean, we don't even have to.

[D]

I'm just curious to know.

[A]

We don't even have to get.

[D]

I'm curious to know who.

[E]

Who.

[A]

First names to come to mind are Ice and Amani.

[B]

Oh, morning voices.

[D]

Yeah, that's two. Definitely Morning voices.

[A]

Yeah, those are first.

[E]

So Mindy give you reasons? Reasons.

[D]

Hear that every day, Joe.

[E]

Sing us out, Imani. I do. Okay. I don't want to go.

[A]

Yo, New York morning morning radio in New York is a really fun job. It's a really, really, really, really fun gig. Well, I mean, it was when I did it. I can imagine it would still be. But it's nothing to sneeze at.

[D]

No, it matters.

[A]

It's nothing. It's nothing to sneeze at.

[C]

New York, That's New York.

[D]

It's one of the few local radio jobs that still matters nationally.

[A]

Yeah, I went to. I went and did Philly radio for a couple weeks.

[D]

Yeah, we got.

[A]

I went and did. That's not. That's not what happened.

[E]

What station, what year.

[A]

This was a few years ago.

[E]

What, maybe 101.3.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I was on 101. Yeah, yeah, I did the afternoon drive. I was picking this up four years.

[C]

Ago, five years ago.

[A]

Okay, Six years ago, back when I was still trying to get in. In radio. I wanted to see what that felt like and what market I could be appropriate in and still be myself in. Philly was one of those quick little drive. I drove up there for about a week and a half.

[E]

They interviewed me too.

[A]

Yeah, I think it was me and quick.

[C]

Was it Quicksilver?

[A]

Damn, my memory is bad.

[E]

But City Line Avenue. Yeah, yeah, they interviewed me too.

[C]

I smoke dc.

[A]

Yeah, Quicksilver is dc.

[E]

I did terrible.

[A]

Well, Quicksilver ain't the only quicksilver either. But that one we talking about is dc. But listen, I'll have my eyes glued to what's going on in New York radio because it is important. Yeah, indeed it is. It is important. So when they, when they decide to announce it, I'll. I'll be there.

[B]

Hopefully before 2029. I was very confused by that.

[D]

Since we talking media business, what's up with TikTok?

[B]

It sold to American investors as was. It was being forced upon them by the Trump administration, I believe. Although I think the Biden administration was also on this time. I believe Oracle is one of them.

[D]

It's.

[B]

It's people. It's outside of my pay range.

[C]

So 80. 80%, right?

[B]

Yes, yes.

[E]

I want to do the rules change now.

[D]

Say, does it change anything about. For us? About TikTok?

[E]

TikTok is very good question.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. Hypothetically, they want foreign influence to come to a halt. They want our data to be protected.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you, America.

[C]

Only people can sell our data is us.

[A]

America. America, right. That land of the free is. You could send that land to the free. It's sometimes the land of the free. Depending on free. Ish.

[C]

Kind of free.

[E]

Yeah, kinda America.

[A]

One thing about America, they ain't gonna let your ass make a certain amount of money without getting cut in bullies.

[D]

That's the perfect way to put it.

[C]

That's perfect.

[E]

You won't give it up or we taking it.

[A]

Yeah. Or we. Yeah, we Going to tell you the laws that you breaking y Now we.

[E]

Got the laws.

[A]

And now now short sale and not a short sale.

[C]

Fire sale.

[A]

Yeah fire sale. We had the auction with it all.

[C]

Buyers in this particular one though I'm on. I'm on their side with this just this one.

[E]

Why?

[C]

Because this is our biggest op, right.

[B]

With a being China.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

That owns.

[C]

That owns. Which owns Tik Tok. So who's clearly why they our biggest op.

[A]

I'm ignorant.

[E]

I wanted to know too.

[A]

I'm ignorant.

[C]

That owns Binance. You said why they I don't know why.

[D]

I don't know why behind the I mean China's a huge global power. They have the financial and military capacity to to undermine the U.S. but we not.

[C]

But we're not gonna make them sell all the yo, we're not gonna make them sell all the real estate in the country biggest threat.

[E]

Okay, let's say that we got issues.

[C]

Let's say that and with this like they already predicting the next level of war is going to be like some some technological war type of it ain't going to be just running up guns, bombs, that type of so you don't want our biggest threat owning the shit that all of us are subscribed to with all of our data. Or they could put shit in here listening to all our shit spying on Americans. We do that to us, not them.

[E]

That next dance challenge might be some seance shit.

[C]

Hey Aki, can I ask you a question? No where all the electronics come from. So you want to talk about starting to be able to spy on niggas.

[A]

Shit.

[C]

They just put a report out that everybody could be looked at from their TV and they like they got secret.

[E]

Hit.

[C]

The goof troop. Yeah. Is you talking about TVs could look at you and record everything that's going on in your house. So we're talking about the people that making the TVs. All the TVs is coming from Asia. The parts and coming from Asia.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

So security ain't the real issue here. The parts and are coming from Asia. All of the networking and that they connect to is all our as far as tick tock and all the servers everything is bait. It's their so they're just talking about we want this on American soil so.

[D]

We can access control.

[C]

We still be clear. I'm not talking about a security where they want America's secure just the only that could spy on us and steal our is us. Yeah that's what they saying.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

It ain't they don't give a about us in terms of they want America secure and safe. It's just a no. The only niggas that could have the master lock to come in here and do whatever we want to do is us, not nobody else.

[B]

The big gold mine in the world right now is data. And they don't want China to have all the data.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

They would rather someone over here.

[C]

Or if we do give them the data, we're gonna sell it to them.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

That's. And that's what they do with everything else. And that was the point I was about to make. So it don't take nothing but for a billionaire from one of these other countries to go get in bed with one of the motherfuckers in America that has all the data. Or the next time Experian or Equifax or one of these have a mistake in data leak. Yeah. Where they sell your data off and call it a week. This is for the highest bidder.

[E]

Like jealousy in it almost. Because I feel like TikTok blew up so crazy. It's so many people that don't eat, don't hang out, don't party. They don't even pick music until they put it in. The search of Tick tock Tick tock is hit more than Google.

[C]

People don't Google. Like they don't Google.

[E]

They go TikTok. So the fact that that's not ours, I just think the type of people.

[C]

That'S our generation that still Googles is.

[D]

They don't Google tik tok.

[E]

Wait a minute. Is nowadays people open their tik tok.

[C]

You don't got to talk slow nowadays.

[E]

You'll love it. Try it. You got to download it first. It's called tik tock. It's fun. You will like it.

[D]

Have you ever used it?

[E]

No, I the don't have. I guarantee you had to download it to see what it look like.

[A]

So a government that I believe don't really give two fucks about me whether I live or die and treats me like a OP needs me when they want to convince me to identify someone else as an OP even though I ain't spoke to nobody Chinese.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Because the Chinese motherfuckers could be in China getting back to what we was doing before them came on these boats. The Chinese could be over there chilling, sewing, eating. They let me know. I don't want to. I'm just saying they could not be given two about what's going on over there with y'.

[C]

All, with the Muhammad that Could be.

[E]

A th percent true China, man. They never did to me.

[C]

He never called me.

[E]

Call me.

[C]

No, I'm. I'm with you. I'm with you.

[A]

Like, how do I know that the Chinese government ain't gonna hold me down better than our government? I don't if I'm getting all my messaging from our government. Right. Ain't we about to go to war again, Venezuela? We're not about to go to war again, No.

[E]

I hope not.

[C]

Venezuela got tick tock.

[A]

I don't know what you talking about. It's called oil land, man. Land man. Tell me. We going. We going.

[C]

We about to take they shit. We going to villainize them and take their too.

[A]

And when is the answer to or is America going to war again ever? No.

[E]

Y' all know a lot of other countries think we're stupid. They think we just. No, no, no.

[C]

Not just that. The things that we accuse other countries of, we be doing it. It's us.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

No, I'm talking about what they say. We wrote the book. You up over there, man, you got to run a 10 and out and get the first dab.

[D]

We the Nick. We the coach.

[E]

Anything about them is they raised the them kids up like little soldiers. Them don't smile. Ain't no loading kids over there. All they got is math. Math problems. Yeah.

[C]

Shit's crazy.

[A]

Go ahead and let the people have they goddamn TikToks. I'll tell you one thing. I tried to open up my son's birthday gifts with him that I got him and I opened them shits and went right to TikTok and YouTube. I'm talking all this shit about YouTube. I couldn't put a gift together without YouTube telling me how to charge up Optimus Prime.

[D]

I don't shit without YouTube. I call YouTuber ish. One of the other. I try to figure out how to put something together. I'm not even joking.

[A]

Yeah, for me it's YouTube eyes.

[D]

Is these lead pipes? I'm dead ass serious. Like seven pictures.

[B]

Were they lead pipes?

[A]

No.

[D]

I should probably figure that out. My family's in real danger right now.

[A]

You still do pipe work?

[D]

I don't drink. Bottle works. Yeah, he slowed down a lot.

[C]

Oh my.

[A]

Yeah. The people that are only listening don't know that you're beautiful Is that's why.

[E]

I be trying to describe.

[D]

Did you read the comments?

[E]

Jealous of you.

[A]

What else is important? Speaking of what else is important, what else is unimportant?

[D]

I want to talk. This is unimportant. This is the most Unimportant thing I think ever is. White Women Blues. Y' all heard about Kristin Cabo?

[B]

Who?

[D]

No, exactly.

[E]

Ned Harlot.

[D]

Exactly. Thank you.

[C]

What she did. Who is that?

[D]

So, okay, let me put it differently. The woman that got caught at the Coldplay concert.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[D]

Okay, okay, exactly.

[A]

I know that.

[C]

Say her real name. The woman that caught at the Coldplay concert that we know.

[A]

You talking about.

[D]

Well, as of yesterday, Kristin Cabo is the name that people will know her by. Cause she just did a full spread in the Times of London and another one in the New York Times about what happened. Talking about the horror.

[A]

All right, yo, now we gonna know her.

[D]

I gotta say, after reading the stories, I felt bad for her.

[E]

Are you serious?

[C]

It worked.

[D]

I felt it did.

[E]

White woman tears, they work every time.

[D]

Oh, my God. Here's what I say. All right, here's her version, by the way. She gave a version real quick. Her version is she wasn't having an affair.

[B]

Sure.

[D]

That this was the first time. That this was the first time she had had any contact with her boss.

[C]

Of course.

[D]

Physical contact.

[B]

Yeah, obviously.

[D]

She said, I had a couple high noons and I just got a little, little, little randy with my boss that day.

[B]

Those darn seltzers.

[D]

She said up to that point we had never even kissed before.

[C]

Of course they haven't.

[A]

Right.

[D]

She said now they did up to that point. So I'm curious. Here's the other detail. Her soon to be ex husband, because she said she was separated, was in the crowd that night at the concert.

[C]

Was he in a box?

[E]

He ain't had good seats, I think.

[D]

And according to her, the boss told her that he also was separated. So we made her into this harlot. And maybe it was two separated people. Now, she never confirmed. We never were able to confirm that the boss was really separated because he won't talk to the newspapers. But apparently she went through hell. She got doxxed. Talk about TikTok. 100 million views in three days. She went. That's a lot when you're not famous and it's all of a sudden.

[A]

It's a lie when you are famous.

[B]

True.

[D]

Yeah, that's facts. But the whole world was looking at her trash. Getting doxed is unnecessary. She didn't steal from nobody. She ain't hurt from. The only person she potentially pissed off was her husband and her whole life. She lost her job. She might not be able to get another one.

[C]

Why she lost her job?

[B]

Oh, they really sold you in this little sob story.

[D]

I'm Just telling you her version.

[A]

Ah.

[C]

Okay. First of all, that's her version.

[E]

Mark interviewed her husband. God damn it. So we can know what's going on.

[D]

I don't get into family affairs.

[C]

Yo, my nigga, the boss had his dick on your butt.

[E]

Yes, the boss did have his dick on your butt.

[C]

That's a comfortability thing. When you go stand behind a woman that close, It's a comfortability thing.

[D]

She said that they had a little bit of, like, electricity because she's the. He's the CEO and she's the head of hr, which is kind of cliche.

[E]

So the first time y' all get touchy, it was the cold player High Noon. I could see their first time being touchy. Being like. Like they're touchy as far as, like, their arm to arm. Or maybe like. Like his arm is around her, but for go straight to dick to ass. That's like, you already. He already hit it.

[D]

She said he didn't.

[E]

He had some of that.

[C]

The boss said, yo, shorty, look, shit is still up out here. I need you to go say this. Yeah, I' ma set it up with this one and this one. You're gonna get a job over here with a raise. But I need. Go clean this up for me right now. Cause shit is still up right now. Cause I remember homeboy was worth a lot of money.

[E]

Yeah, if they would have played it cool, it wouldn't even happen. That's where they fucked up at. Looking all caught in the face. You know what I mean? That's where they fucked it up at. You gotta learn how to cheat, right?

[D]

She said. We were sitting in the back of the stadium at the opposite end from the stage in the pitch black, just feeling totally anonymous. We were just dancing. I had a few high noons. Andy was standing behind me, and we were dancing, and I grabbed him.

[A]

Mm.

[E]

Sound like a sex novel.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

This is how it starts as this horror piece.

[A]

I stand behind you and we start doing a little sway side a couple.

[B]

Of them Hot news and tequila hot news, too.

[A]

Throw your hand back and grab my especially. I've been looking at you at work all this time. You know I got something at home. I know you got something at home. If we hit the little back and forth sway to the. To the. Well, I would never do that.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I would have done that. At the game.

[C]

I would have done that.

[E]

That's not true.

[A]

That's not true. That's not true. Sometimes the cheat. Thank you. Sometimes. Oh, I do joke, but what I don't like about this is most of us in this room have the experience, but because I'm the only one that will speak on it, it makes me look a certain way. But I would have did it. Yeah, I would. I would. There's a certain electricity when the cheat is right.

[E]

First of all, your work boyfriend is so fun. Oh my God. You be doing it to that boy in that closet. Never mind.

[A]

It's true. You do. You know it's true. You be somebody a little. Look, yeah, run in the bathroom, get your off. Get your off for a little bit.

[E]

I'm telling you.

[A]

Then you walk out first. I love you. Walk out first while I'm chilling. Like while I get. While I fix up. Brush my spray a little. Yo, you walk out first. I love that. Wait, don't be the one to walk out first.

[D]

Have y' all all had sex with a co worker at work?

[A]

Yes, I worked in the restaurant business.

[C]

I worked at Court Corporate. Duh. You gotta be in a restaurant business.

[A]

You still counting that little gyro as a corporate? Subway. Yeah, with Subway Corporate. He was in charge of me still at it.

[C]

Anyway, I worked in finance for years.

[A]

Subway Finance, not Subway.

[E]

He called it a giant.

[C]

I never sold a hoagie in my life.

[E]

You.

[A]

You counted up how much bread we.

[D]

Needed for the whole finance.

[E]

Were you at Subway before that nasty ass scandal with that big man Jared? Before Jerry?

[D]

He was there with Jared.

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

Yo, have you ever met Jared?

[C]

No.

[D]

Was there the CEO when you were working?

[E]

No, I said was you there after whatever he was like. Was he? Did y' all get rid of now.

[B]

You know Jared, right?

[C]

Time frame of working there?

[E]

You wouldn't know that though, because that's such a big thing. So when you got there, was it over already or. No.

[A]

What do you know besides real estate.

[C]

Mad this up where you fall apart. Look, you know, stop playing with me, dog. It's cool though.

[A]

I can tell them what you know.

[E]

It's before or after Jared, I need to know.

[C]

I really don't know. I ain't trying to be a dick.

[D]

Wait a minute. You work a Subway corporate and didn't know the Jared's.

[C]

I'm about to tell you. I'm about to tell you what years I worked at Subway.

[E]

No, I don't want to hear that.

[C]

I need to hear that.

[E]

No, that's. There's no way this man don't know when he. Whether he was there before. After Jared.

[C]

0405. So yes, you were there the same time as Jared because Jared was there 2000 and 2015.

[E]

You got to the bottom of it.

[D]

What was his job?

[C]

Did he work there or was he just like the spokesman or some. I don't know if he was both. He worked with them as a national spokesperson.

[A]

Deniability.

[E]

He don't want nothing to do with this.

[D]

I don't know. Jared. Yeah, that guy doing me.

[E]

I was just.

[D]

He was a national spokesman. He worked in corporate.

[A]

You hired him. What the fuck do you mean what to do with you? You hired him.

[C]

Yo, you know, yo, I got the right person to be the phone revolt.

[A]

I can't hear what you saying.

[C]

Oh, you heard?

[A]

I didn't.

[D]

He said Puff worked at owned Revolt.

[A]

And now he doesn't.

[C]

I know state of the culture.

[A]

When you.

[D]

When you working with Revolt, Puff was in charge.

[A]

Puff hired Joe.

[C]

He jumped, flipped.

[D]

Oh, did he put you on?

[A]

I flipped it on.

[C]

On, Nigga, I was playing spades at your house. Oh, yeah, man.

[A]

Andre Harrell may rest in peace.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

It was on.

[D]

You look at Lavandre.

[A]

Because it was Andre Harrell.

[C]

It was Andre Pool because.

[A]

Because you. You better.

[D]

I love Andre Harrell. Rest in peace.

[A]

Come on.

[E]

We don't do that.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

We don't.

[E]

That there.

[D]

What I do.

[A]

You think. You think Puff is worse than Jared?

[C]

I don't know what Puff or Jared involvement in anything has been.

[E]

Oh, I know everything about what Jared was. Jared was with children.

[D]

Kids. He was a molester.

[C]

He was with kids.

[D]

You're national spokesman, Puff.

[C]

Nothing compared to reverse back.

[A]

I don't have nothing to do.

[C]

I never spoke to Jared. That was your man.

[A]

You got Puff number different mayonnaise on them sandwiches.

[D]

Oh, come on. All right.

[E]

You like.

[A]

All right. Different. Different man.

[C]

The kind that you like.

[A]

The spicy mayo that you like. Hey, you can't spell mayonnaise without man. I'm here all week.

[E]

What?

[A]

Mayonnaise.

[C]

I get it.

[A]

We get it.

[C]

That was horrible. I see why you retired.

[A]

I can't bout.

[C]

I see why you retired.

[A]

What were we talking about? We were talking Tik Tok and China.

[D]

And this poor white woman.

[A]

Oh, that's a white girl. The white girl. I'm with you, Mark. I do believe that she went through dark days.

[C]

Okay?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I do believe that she had a hard time as a result of what she experienced. I do.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So we feel.

[E]

That's not what we're talking about.

[D]

That's a horrifying experience, but that's not.

[E]

What we were talking about. We were talking about how good the dick is when you sneak and Your co workers. Oh, yeah.

[D]

But these are so, so bitchy.

[A]

They won't join in.

[E]

Annoying.

[D]

I've done that before.

[C]

Everybody in here said that they the a coworker.

[A]

Tell us more.

[E]

I said.

[C]

I said. He attributed to the restaurant business. I said I worked in corporate. And that's where the took a turn, cuz. You start cracking on Subway at the copy machine. Y. I never did you at Subway.

[A]

I did no a.

[D]

None of stuff I didn't know.

[C]

No. I. In corporate.

[E]

It's so fun to at work inside the.

[D]

At the job.

[E]

Yeah. Like, what are y. Oh, no.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're a wild boy. Thank you.

[E]

Parks. Like, please.

[A]

They just leave you.

[E]

How do you know that this is your work co worker boyfriend if you don't know that? He can you find out the gig.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

That don't lead a job at first.

[A]

That.

[E]

That's the next level. You take this outside, we be at the job.

[A]

We at the job.

[B]

Cheating if it's at the job.

[E]

Exactly. It don't even count. Exactly. Damn. I didn't even know you knew that. That doesn't count.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

At the job.

[C]

Not at the job. No, me neither.

[A]

But you do you be right.

[C]

Nope.

[E]

It's so stupid.

[C]

The stock room.

[A]

Who me?

[D]

Is it the biz? Whatever.

[A]

The biz.

[C]

You see the stock.

[A]

Crazy Eddie.

[C]

Oh, you ain't work that Crazy Eddie, yo.

[A]

No, I didn't work at Crazy Eddie. And I never at work. I never a co worker either.

[C]

Cat, you're not in here making all this fuss.

[E]

Cat.

[C]

And I'm calling Cat Cat a co worker.

[A]

I'm trying to think a couple jobs.

[E]

Job is not just a job. Whatever you did exactly, that's a job. What are we like? Come on, bro.

[A]

What you say?

[E]

So that mean no producers, no nobody, no writers.

[B]

Oh, video girls.

[E]

Okay. What are we talking about? I hate that y' all do that up here.

[A]

I take it back. I take it back. I have video girls before.

[C]

Okay, you don't say.

[E]

After Exactly. This still on from the video? He said leave that on. When they leave, I'mma meet you in the back.

[C]

I wrote this for you, girl.

[E]

My, ain't that glamorous. I was at a Sonoko, yo.

[D]

Wait, did you work me to it?

[E]

I was hoping yes.

[A]

That's exactly how I pictured Inside or outside? Wearing the snow coat in the back. It better not been at the outside.

[E]

Arsenal wasn't dirty. It was new. I get a address up over here.

[C]

The bathroom was dirty.

[E]

It wasn't the bathroom.

[B]

She didn't work in the back where.

[E]

The safe was like, what's up with y'? All? Why am I going to the bathroom? The we the only people here.

[C]

Which one of y' all was the manager?

[E]

Neither one.

[A]

Guess. Ice.

[D]

We can guess who wasn't here.

[E]

Neither one.

[A]

Neither one.

[E]

They be playing with me, bro. It's the same.

[C]

I stop playing with Mona, y'.

[E]

All. You know how bad work is if you give.

[A]

Mona gave that to a that had that job for three weeks.

[E]

He had the job for.

[B]

What was his job?

[E]

We did the same thing. We was cashiers. I was first out of jail. Yeah. They always get worse.

[A]

If I start. If I start somebody and we both cashiers, then stealing is next. I'm just. I'm just letting you know.

[B]

And you're both out on bail. That's like a double.

[E]

I was out of jail.

[B]

Double kick.

[E]

He had never been to jail. Yeah.

[C]

No.

[E]

I'll tell y' all the rest of.

[A]

The dream of mine back in the day.

[E]

I still know him. I'll tell y' all later.

[A]

Rob some shit with a girl and then go on a run.

[B]

Natural war.

[C]

You can watch way too many movies. More than caught your body in class.

[E]

I just watched a good documentary about that. A CEO. Y' all seen that on, I think Netflix or something.

[A]

We need more clues.

[E]

It was a. It was a white girl.

[B]

More clues.

[E]

White girl. She was really, really respected at her job. She was there forever. Most trusted person story.

[B]

Every time. We need more.

[E]

And he was a real big white guy. That's all I remember. I think she shot herself in the head when they caught her. It was good though.

[A]

Don't do that again. Don't. Don't any doc you seen. Let's talk about it first. Because that wasn't the greatest doctor.

[E]

Y' all don't listen to what my suggestions because I still. So I asked y' all to watch welcome to dairy and y' all didn't.

[B]

I did finish it. Actually. Finished it ended up being.

[C]

All right.

[E]

Thank you.

[B]

I hated at the beginning, but it ended up being.

[E]

I think we need to discuss it because people like it.

[B]

They do.

[E]

So why can't we talk about it?

[A]

Let's talk about it.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

I loved it the whole time. I didn't love it the whole time. I'm going say some parts I hate. I hate it when they get that little Latino boy that drum set. Why the is this boy playing drums this well randomly in black ass?

[A]

That was weird.

[E]

I need to be real for me to be into it. Right?

[B]

That was weird.

[E]

I love the fact that the guy, the little boy came back as a ghost and flipped Pennywise off and he helps his friends out. You didn't like that?

[B]

Oh, that was cool. I didn't like any of the cgi. That was really what threw me off. And that was the majority or the big parts of the first few episodes. But once it got past that, it was fly. I really like the Shining tie in. I don't know if you caught that. See, like the fake graphics with like the. The dude in the jars and the. In the grocery store.

[E]

Oh, you didn't like that stuff?

[B]

I thought that was corny to me.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Even the opening scene. That is corny to me.

[E]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

That is corny.

[E]

I just, I. I loved. I love, like the parts of real life that were in it. Like the fact that they'll mention it because that's such a. That's such a real thing where it's like the natives figure out how to keep this spirit in white people. Come it up. You know what I mean? Like, I love that it was like real in it.

[B]

Try to get the spirits, like, exactly.

[E]

They trying to monetize and sell a little piece of the spirit to people. Spirit keychains. I also like the fact, like, even with the guy that he wouldn't sell his. He wouldn't sell his. Where he was like his alibi because he was with a white woman. Because back then you couldn't be with white girls. Yeah. But I think it was well done. I like it. I'm excited for season two and I never watch shows, so that's a big deal. Like, for me to be like, I actually watch it. I think it was good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They turn it around.

[E]

I would be really scared though, when I had to turn it off and I get my gun and walk around and talk to myself to get myself hyped back up to watch it again.

[A]

Okay. Don't you say another word.

[D]

I want to close this.

[E]

Y' all are loving this at home.

[A]

You shut up.

[E]

You watch.

[A]

That's what we do.

[E]

No, you watch it.

[A]

What?

[E]

Watch it. I think you would like it. Watch.

[A]

I'm not going to watch it. Cuz I watched the first episode and.

[B]

And it gets better.

[E]

But it gets better.

[B]

It does, but you not necessarily missing anything.

[E]

But it's.

[A]

I see everybody saying how great it.

[E]

Is and it's really black.

[A]

When you committed to it and you finish it. You said it's black.

[E]

It's kind of black. Joey.

[A]

I seen white people. When I turn.

[E]

I mean, it's white people. In it. But it's way more black. First of all, you know we get killed early. So the fact that we make it to the end, like come on, bro. Usually have been going second episode. The fact that this is why you should watch it. Number one, cuz it's black. And number two, they kill kids like a. You be thinking this kid here for the whole time and this is gone. Cut this head off.

[A]

Now that's fire.

[E]

They be killing the out them kids. Best part you had to watch.

[A]

When does it get good?

[E]

I say episode three.

[B]

Yeah, three or four. Somewhere around there. And then there's another one week one sort of. I forgot which. Maybe five or six was kind of weak. But then it gets.

[E]

Yeah, then it's bangers. And then it's over. There's only eight total. Yeah, watch it, Joey, please.

[A]

All right, all right, I'll check. I'll check it out. If that's y' all shut up about it.

[E]

I got this number. I will text you.

[A]

I'll watch it. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else?

[D]

Can I run through one more white woman story real quick?

[A]

Mark Lamont Hill, please.

[D]

Who's the white woman? Annie Hubble.

[B]

What is.

[A]

Who the is that?

[E]

You got the whitest.

[B]

You got the random whites too.

[D]

He said that?

[C]

Like we supposed to know.

[D]

No, you're not supposed to know.

[C]

Oh, Annie.

[A]

I blame Ish and Ice for when Mark put all these white people names on the board that we can't read.

[E]

Why?

[C]

How do you blame us?

[A]

Because y' all go up there and let's put some up there, man, that we could read. That's legible.

[C]

He was at the ball before.

[A]

I know. And look, I can't read none of that.

[C]

I don't know what that say.

[E]

That's legible and it's shady. When Little league trophy.

[D]

All right, come on. Annie Hubble is a white woman in California who wanted to do a one woman show for Women's History Month. And they were like, cool, let's do it. So she does a one woman show. And then about a week before the show started, it came word that she was going to be performing black people. That she was going to be Harriet Tubman and Sojourner Troupe.

[E]

She was going to play the white people.

[D]

She was going to dress up like these black people and perform. So of course the place said, you can't do that. She said, why not? They said it should be obvious why not? She said, it's not obvious. I demand to be able to be Harriet Tubman. So they canceled her show.

[C]

She sued and won.

[D]

They gave her $60,000 last week.

[E]

What?

[C]

That's all?

[D]

I mean she.

[C]

I thought she would have gotten more than that, but. Go ahead.

[E]

On what grounds? I don't get it.

[D]

That white people should be able to be whoever they want?

[E]

Oh, get the fuck on y' all start that shit if you want. I'm telling you, you start that shit if you want. You cannot give a fuck if you saying something good about C.J. walker or not. You put that fucking brown shit on your face, we going to bust your windows. We not taking no right now.

[D]

That's all. Just want to give the black. Give the people a quick update. That was all that.

[B]

Thanks, Mark.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

I know people shut up about.

[E]

Welcome to de. Come on, come on.

[B]

I thought we bodied it.

[E]

I do. I do want to know though how.

[D]

She went because they said it. Free speech. You're allowed to be whoever you want. You can't stop people from being black people just cuz you don't like it.

[E]

But as a business, I don't want to associate myself with. With this because this is super racist and I'm gonna get in trouble.

[D]

But this is the Trump.

[E]

Oh right.

[D]

The idea now is they're saying this white woman is being denied a job because of her race because if she were not white she'd be able to do this show and she was denied.

[B]

What state was this?

[D]

California.

[C]

Damn, that's weird.

[B]

That's weird.

[D]

And she was denied access to this job because she's what? Her whiteness stopped her race? Stopped her from getting a job?

[E]

I bet you she wanted real artsy with the long underarm hair.

[D]

I didn't check her underarm hair, but it checks out based on everything else.

[E]

I've seen wear a lot of colors.

[A]

I don't know where I stand on this actually. Cuz some of them I'm. I'm entertained by like that old Rachel do dog blading that that was funny for a couple years.

[E]

It was, it was.

[D]

But she was passing. She. She was still playing.

[E]

She didn't put how.

[A]

I mean she was saying she was not black.

[C]

Passing dog. She operated a coral. She did braids.

[E]

She had black. A black godfather and godmom. They didn't even know she was wearing micros. And she get her hair all braided up and all that and she'd be coy.

[D]

I got talked to on the phone one time.

[E]

Oh, of course you did. Of course you've talked to this what.

[B]

You guys talk about.

[D]

And I said are you Black. This before the story came out. The rumor was that she was. That she was passing. But, you know, I've met black people that look really, really light and it don't look black. So I just said, let me ask you straight up. Are you black? She said, brother, treat you with a brother. Yo, with no art, brother. I'm the mother of black children. And it hung up.

[E]

What?

[D]

So it's real court. And she is the mother of black children.

[E]

That don't make you black.

[C]

But that don't make you black.

[E]

That don't make you black.

[D]

I agree, but she said it like. It was like she didn't want to lie.

[B]

And you said, oh, okay.

[D]

She hung up.

[A]

She ain't giving a truth, she ain't giving a child.

[E]

How many white girls were aces? Asymmetrical bobs.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Okay. They got black tits.

[D]

They wear nursing uniforms. They have biracial sons named Jaden.

[E]

Yeah, they listen to like a lot of old Ti. Old Gucci. Them type white girls I know well, them with that bob, that short bob. Yeah, them the, that. They had that first baby by black eye and he leave, they get another. You know what I mean? All the kids, all the kids. Salt and pepper. Shout out to y' all sometimes.

[A]

I like when they, when they, when I like when they do it to Sean Evans too. Wait, I might be it up. Maybe that's not Sean Evans. Sean Evans, my man.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

What's my man? The activist guy.

[C]

Jesse Williams you talking about?

[D]

Sean King is black. I went to college.

[E]

Shout out to Sean. That's my man.

[D]

Don't you know we went to school together. We had morehouse together.

[E]

Yeah, he light skinned. He got.

[D]

He's very light. But when you, when you get real close to him, you can see the black.

[E]

He was beat up as a kid for being black in his town.

[A]

You said Rachel was black passing, so I gotta check you up. We gotta brag. I'm saying she's gotta do the brown back.

[E]

She did.

[D]

She be passing.

[E]

She worked at naacp. She kept micro. She braid her hair with kinkaline hair. If that ain't. I don't know what it is.

[D]

Yeah, she.

[E]

She was trying to get her in. Why didn't we let that.

[D]

I mean, honestly, she was doing a whole lot of black. I hate what she was doing.

[E]

But she was working though.

[D]

She was doing the work for the movement.

[A]

Okay, can we talk about some. Something else now? And you. Philly, shut up and stop bringing that. Philly. Can we do something else? If y' all don't mind, we can.

[E]

Do something else, but we never not bringing Philly. All right, move on.

[C]

Yo, did y' all see? Oh, Chris Paul tried to throw a Halloween party.

[B]

That's so up.

[A]

That's so up.

[B]

Poor Chris, man.

[D]

He tried.

[C]

Yo, you ain't hear what they said?

[A]

He said.

[C]

What'd he say? He was arguing at practice. He told a Kawhi, you keep with me, I'm show them where the trees is really buried at, huh? Like, he threatened to expose the. That's.

[B]

He was on his Pablo.

[C]

That's crazy, yo. Oh, no, don't say that.

[D]

That's his trigger.

[B]

Don't say that.

[C]

Yeah, you're right.

[B]

You're right. My bad.

[C]

Why ain't my pain my trigger? What if? Say what if, what if, what if?

[A]

Let's try to not say the people. People that just left here.

[C]

But what if that was the. Yo, check that company out.

[E]

Said it when he was here because.

[C]

Remember, he got a call that told him to check that company out.

[B]

Well, you think Chris was the I'm just inside what if?

[D]

Or Cliff. Yeah, that's funny, son. Nah. Yeah. So for those that don't know the host, Chris Paul, they're trying to unpack the reasons why Chris Paul left. And like I told y', all, I heard there was a big tension between him and Tyronn Lue. And then also there was a belief that there was a leadership gap because Kawhi Leonard isn't perceived as to be a strong leader. So Chris thought he could get the chemistry and the leadership together by doing stuff, holding events, having fun with the guys, kind of being that guy. And so the Halloween party was part of his effort to get people together.

[C]

Except everybody showed up.

[D]

Three people showed up.

[C]

The invisible man, a nigga showed up.

[E]

That's fucked up.

[C]

That's up, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

How's that your joint?

[E]

I feel like everybody that throws shit, that's your worst fear. Nobody comes when you're throwing something.

[B]

We've all had that co worker, too, that tries to be like, the cool one, the down one, bringing everything together, and it's like, yeah, we don't really fuck with you like that.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Good idea.

[A]

Wrong person.

[D]

And when it's your team, they still might not fuck with you, but they'll show up. But he's having that moment like, oh.

[B]

Wait, people, they don't like me.

[D]

They don't like me, right? And they don't have to come no more because it's not my team.

[E]

That's fucked up.

[D]

Yeah, I love Chris Paul. And I hate that this is happening to him at the end of his career. They haven't cut him yet though, by the way. So they're still trying to figure out what to do.

[A]

They work. They're working with him to try to figure it out.

[C]

They made him, right?

[A]

They made. No, they could cut him, but they made the announcement that said they're going to work with Chris Paul to try to land. Try to do the right thing. But all of the Chris Paul stories that have come out since the big blow up, they've been funny, every one of them. Like him telling Kawhi that Clay is lighting him up and switching the defensive assignment. Like saying that took Kawhi. Like, come on, man.

[C]

Yeah, you can't tell it. Or that could just be your way of trying to. Why not though?

[A]

But I get it. Yeah.

[B]

Because what you about to do if he's letting up Kawhi.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Because Paul got the. But I get it.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Did you hear the Kawhi leak where they were saying that after he won that next championship in Toronto.

[C]

I'm as good as he said.

[D]

He's as good as Kobe or past him.

[E]

What?

[A]

That's ambitious.

[C]

See?

[A]

All right. That would be ambitious.

[D]

I did.

[A]

I didn't hear that.

[D]

It's a nice way of saying crazy.

[A]

As, but Yeah, I mean he could feel like that. But to say it. To say it. To say it to people with ears.

[C]

Don't you have like that inside no dumb shit like that in the graveyard? It don't matter where you say it and who you say it to. You supposed to feel that way? Like internally don't say it.

[E]

I would just say it has to be reality attached to it. Like your numbers are similar, y' all getting stuck. I mean the same.

[D]

And it's not. To use a name like his, it's not so far. Like it's crazy in the sense that he's not Kobe. He's just not. But if you're at his level, I could see how you start to get.

[C]

Believe you are that it's some other names before you.

[D]

Oh, there's a whole bunch.

[C]

Kobe.

[D]

I mean, Kawhi is the top 10 player this position ever. Maybe top five player at this position ever. One of the best two way players ever.

[C]

What position he play?

[D]

If we say small forward? Yeah, I think he's top 10.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, ever. Yes, I think so. We can talk about it later. Yes, I absolutely think he's top 10. He's toward the bottom of that 10. But yes, once you get past Bird and KD and of course LeBron at number one for me. Yeah, you start to go down names. Yeah, I can see around 9 to 10. Yeah, I absolutely could. But LeBron. But yeah. Anyway, hope Chris Paul lands well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What did y' all think of the Jim Jones landlord audio being leaked by 50?

[E]

I thought it was AI.

[C]

You don't think it's real?

[E]

No, I didn't.

[C]

I mean, still or at the time.

[E]

I just, when I first heard, I just assumed, like, I don't know.

[D]

I think it's real.

[E]

If I would do business with somebody. Why would you do that?

[A]

It's real.

[E]

Like, why the fuck would you do that?

[C]

If the. I could think of a reason. If I'm doing business with somebody and the business ain't good, or I'm old and I'm not getting what I'm supposed to get, and then here come this person again. It's just business. At the end of the day, that ain't my man.

[D]

And it's 50 Cent. People act different around celebrities.

[E]

I mean, I get that, but I just feel like if I'm a landlord and you could talk to this ish. Because you're a landlord. I want my money. You know what I mean? Like, that's my first concern, to get the bread. I'm not gonna get the bread if I'm talking. So I just assume. My first thing is, why would you from him?

[C]

He was trying to give me the bread.

[D]

He's trying to sell him. He's trying to. So he's trying to sell the business to 50 Cent, basically.

[E]

But that doesn't stop that man owing her money. Owing her money or whatever. I want my money from him too. That's all I'm saying. I'm. I'm not doing it. I'm not about to draw in any situation with my mouth, the big ass mouth I have. When they come to no pay, if it's a chance, I can get my money, period. Okay, fine. Right. He's been saying this for like, you know, since October.

[D]

And he keeps trying to build it.

[E]

But he won't sign the lease. I don't like these terms. I want like 6 months of build out and ridiculous bullshit. We also have a partnership agreement where half of what he's building now is media, belongs to us. But he's. He won't tell us how much he's making and doing all these things.

[F]

So half of the content he's creating.

[E]

If you want to buy that too, I'll sell you half the company he's Not a business. He's, like, insane. To me, it's worth very little to nothing, but if it's out for you.

[D]

I just throw that in as a sweetener.

[E]

Okay, so what I'm trying to say is he signed a lease with me, right? Now he owes, I'm going to say in a short way, at least 80,000, if not 180,000 the month on the old lease.

[A]

That's the gist of it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's the gist of a call that morning. 50 was saying on the Internet, hey, I might buy all that shit. People might not have believed him. So he leaked the conversation with him, and here we are.

[D]

Is that too far for you? Any of you?

[A]

I think. I mean, I don't know if there's such thing as too far with 50, right?

[E]

Yes, 50.

[A]

This is up there with. This is up there with fucking Cam and what's the Omar Gooden. Am I saying it?

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

This is up there with that. For me, like niggas, that's just petty enough to get in touch with the owner who owns the building and got money to just. Here, I'll pay for this. Like, it's a different level of petty. I appreciate that, but that's the optics of it. I don't know that. That this is a bad thing necessarily for Jim. I don't know. I don't know the particulars of his deal. It's just something that was put out to kind of embarrass him. I just don't. I don't know if it's embarrassing.

[D]

They took it in stride. They didn't seem embarrassed. That night, Mayno put out a video with him and Jim. On the video, he was like, we squatters and just showing around. They was laughing at it. So. Which is why I thought it was true, because I think they would have just said it's not true, but. But they didn't seem to care. They took it in stride. That's most things like that, if you. If you don't act embarrassed and you keep rolling and keep talking shit back, a lot of times the moment passes faster.

[E]

You know what I'm saying? I mean, whether you would do it or not, right? Is it something like. Is it something that's too far? Is it going too far with this?

[D]

For me, it's like. It's the same thing I said about the Drake thing last week with the Axe and all of that. I wouldn't. It's all fair game. If you in this. If. If you in the talking world and you're doing this, it's fair game. You can do it. It's not out of bounds. I would not do that particular thing, but I don't think it's out of bounds.

[E]

Yeah, I don't know. I think it's. I think. And I also. I feel like it's the same thing with. They talk about 50 with that documentary. I just think it. It just brings the wrong energy. Energy towards you. And like, for me, that's what I wouldn't want. Would come back from that.

[D]

You know what I'm saying more about that. You're saying 50 brought the wrong energy by doing a doc.

[E]

No, I'm not even saying whether he did. I ain't say nothing about you, but I feel like with some of this, it's like, bro, like, that is so diabolical. Like, if you moved in your regular life, that, like, life like that. Cool, right? But to get into this and to get that diabolical where you, like, reaching out to kids and the baby mama and this in 50 been on this, he's been on way too far, right? But for me, that's why I would never do it, because I. I can't see a situation where it was worth me inviting that back to me. We all got in our. We all done stuff. We all have stuff where we don't want the public to know, period. Like, there's nobody out here that it's everything. You don't give a. What they know. So it's like even bringing that energy. Because then it's like, what lines do you cross? Because, you know now he called your mother's primary care physician and found out your mom had aids. Like, how far does it go? You know what I mean? If I can't find it on you, now I'm going on your mother and your kids. I found out your kid has an iep. Your kids slow. Now you putting that. Like, it's like, where does it stop at? How is that not too far? Like, I'm just saying. I mean, 50, this is his thing. We know that you kind of know to expect it from him. But it's like, if all this crazy came out about 50 and people was doing all this stuff, you wouldn't be surprised because it's been like this engine for so long where he's like, you know.

[A]

But on the flip side, like, like Mayno said, if you beefing with 50, then maybe you're doing something right in content land, right? These niggas are on episode 12, 13, 14, the early stages or something. So all Eyes are good eyes. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[C]

Yeah, maybe because, well.

[A]

And you have to balance that out with the level of not caring that seems to exist there. Like, niggas is doing good. Niggas is starting the podcast again. Back with the Charlemagne. So all his money floating around. Yes. Start a pod and don't be deterred. When are talking about you. They going to talk shit.

[E]

They going to talk.

[C]

As long as it's just talk. Like again, if, if I remember back when FIP was beefing with, with Kiss and he said in the record, he was like, yo, get Puff on the phone. I want to buy his publishing. Since you owe, I want to buy that. Like certain people, if I got the money to just play in a way where I could make it rough for you. Pause, I'll do that.

[B]

Or even if he's not serious, but it's just entertaining.

[C]

I, I, I don't know him to not be serious. That's the thing. So like if, if you're, I think 50 does this to tell people. Yo, don't with me. I just think it's levels.

[E]

It's levels.

[C]

Tony Yayo say it all the time. He be like, yo, the three people you can't beef with is 50J and Puff. Yep. And he be like, yo, it's just levels to the, they, they, they move. They just do different. Yo, you could just randomly spend a.

[A]

Couple mil and now Yayo and Uncle Murder have a podcast they starting. Right.

[B]

It's overdue Shout out to them.

[E]

Yeah. Yayo been killing podcasts for years. Yayo is a podcaster whether you know it or not. It's like he, this is overdue. Nigga's been waiting and Murder.

[A]

Actually, maybe not to the degree of.

[E]

Yay, but yeah, for sure.

[C]

Both of them.

[A]

Both of them. I'm all, I'm all for gonna be funny as I'm all for it.

[C]

I don't want them to be guest based. They don't just, just, just talk. Yeah, just talk.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I like people that, that have personalities that can be entertaining and not having to have a guest there with them. Like now you just get to be you and murder. Him and Yayo are two people that they spit that. Yeah. They don't need nobody to bounce off.

[A]

Look at B dot with his 2025 Rap Albums of the Year list.

[B]

Oh, list time.

[D]

All right.

[A]

10. Cardi B. Am I the drama?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

9. Joey Badass. Lonely at the top.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

8. Payroll Giovanni. If not me, then who? 7. Jid God does like ugly. 6. Chance the Rapper. Starline okay 5 Central C Can't rush greatness 4. Freddie Gibbs and the Alchemist Alfredo 2, 2, 3. Wale Everything is a lot. Yes 2 Larry June 2 Chains and Alchemist Life is beautiful and one clips Let God sort them out.

[C]

I got nothing to say about that list.

[D]

I don't like the order of everything but that's a solid or anything but a position here or there I'd have chance a little higher but out of.

[C]

But I wouldn't little nuanced swaps but yeah I'm not mad at that list. It's not bad.

[A]

Have you all been keeping up with the Ty Lil situation?

[C]

I just learned about that this morning.

[A]

And Ty Leel is the young streamer from New York who after the streamer awards there was a young lady who made some allegations toward him. He then distanced himself from AMP Streaming and kaisernet. Seemed to have lost a lot of business. I didn't speak on while it was happening because it needed to play out. And he has responded with receipts from this situation to say, hey, what this girl is alleging is not true. It was a one night stand. She came over, got got cracked. I called her Uber. It was an Uber Toyota. She went outside, saw the Toyota, came back, said do I look like a Toyota type? I need a black truck. He then ordered a black truck. He didn't show the receipt of that Uber getting her home at 8.40am he then showed text messages sent after 8.40am that she sent to people in his friend group saying get me up out of here or something like that to imply that she wasn't home. He also showed receipt that said.

[C]

That.

[A]

She was asking for money. She was asking for money. She wanted $2,000. He said no. And she said, you gonna pay or you gonna see or you gonna. So he dropped all of these things in a response the other day. Maybe, maybe two days ago. That was the first time we're hearing his side of the story. Just wanted to know if y' all were keeping up with that.

[C]

You saw her response?

[A]

Her response? I didn't see her response, no.

[C]

Still, that's literally what she responded with. All of that. And bro, this shit is disgusting. Scary boy.

[A]

No, I'm sorry.

[C]

It's like it's a dangerous game out here. It is.

[A]

It really is.

[C]

I was having this conversation with my girl. She like, I see what you be talking about cuz I like I'm scared to play like that. I wouldn't even.

[D]

You.

[C]

It's just, it's too scary. Somebody could sit there and have regret the next morning and your whole up.

[E]

Just because like after the party type when you first meet someone.

[A]

This is him playing audio you might not be able to hear. No, That's not the best audio.

[C]

And, and for what I understand is he, he has a girl and he didn't want. Like he was keeping quiet because it would. He would have to admit that he cheated on his girl. But she just, he just asked her, she just said, yo, is this a one night stand? And he said, no. On some. Yo, that's what you using me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm good.

[A]

Okay. Y' all don't have anything to say.

[E]

She asked him, was it a one night stand?

[C]

Yes, yes. She just asked him. He said, no, that's not what this is. Cause as it's a fine line, let's just say hypothetically, he said, yeah, this is a one night stand. She might get mad. So now he gotta kinda cater to her sensitivity and saying, nah, it ain't no one night stand. I ain't looking at, you know, a girl be like, oh, you just using me as a fuck. And then from the male's perspective, the politically correct answer is, nah, girl, that ain't what you doing. This ain't what we doing. And I think that that's along the lines of what that sounded like.

[E]

There is no girl getting. That's saying, is there a one night stand after? Like that's the thing. You're not gonna talk like that. That's not what happened. It's not. That wasn't the one I stand. Somebody took it. It's not the same thing. Like, it just sound like cap to me. I don't know if I'm supposed to say that or not. I mean, I don't never want a victim blame if the girl is, you know, if it happened or whatever, you know. But if not, that's up.

[A]

Well, his life is altered no matter what.

[E]

Yeah, that's the thing. It's like it's no, that's the big hole in it. And I think it's such a touchy situation because there's no recourse. There's nothing to make you not want to do that shit. I watched a documentary where somewhere in the middle the country they had started to arrest girls for that. Right. But they kept getting it wrong. So every part of this got you was about people that really did get assaulted and they end up getting a charge for lying. And they really weren't lying, but that's why they don't do it. I Think. But there has to be something. When it's proven that these bitches lying. When it's proven, it's like, you need to go to jail. You need to get a fine or you need to get beat up by sisters. You can't just do that and just walk away from it. That's crazy to me because then it's like, there's no reason not to do that. That means all the holes of America got that thing in the back of the head. Like, I could just say this took it like, come on, bro, that's not cool. If you start watching Go to jail, you might double think that that's just the truth. It's just so risky because of a victim and the things that victims go through and how hard it is to tell on people or whatever. It's just. It just sucks. I got sons like that, Corny. I feel like you gotta raise your boys up to like, make good decisions, though, you know what I mean? Sometimes not people you don't know. Because if you don't know her, then you can't even. I'm sure you fuck somebody, you know.

[A]

You got to be realistic. Now is 21, 22 and 23 and.

[C]

Lit, rich with some money.

[E]

Yeah, rich.

[A]

Protect that well traveled with beautiful women throwing themselves at them because they command the audience and they funny or charming or whatever the reason be. How much discipline you want the kids to have to say, all right, don't fuck who you're not supposed to fucking.

[C]

The real part is them not understanding is all those things you just listed. 21 rich lit. All of that makes them a target, right? A lot of them don't get that part. They don't understand, but they do. They want. They welcome the targeting. No, I'm talking about making a target. I'm talking about make you a target. As in, yeah, I could sleep with them. And now I got them under the gun, basically. Yeah, it's a damn near extortion, right?

[E]

Or I sleep with them, have a baby, keep the baby. I gotta. You know what I mean?

[C]

It's like I gotta get. I gotta get something out of this.

[E]

And that's why I feel like. I know it's probably unrealistic, but it's like, yeah, nigga, you not the regular 21. You not 21. In the projects of Brooklyn. You 21 rich, and everybody looking at you. Yeah, watch you get addicted. I mean, watch you get that come to too.

[C]

What the fuck? As the men in the room, we can have this conversation. Niggas was 31 and not practicing that level of discernment.

[A]

You're right.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Like, yo. Yeah. It's not an age thing. Like, I just think that it's a dirty game. Everybody gotta be protect themselves in the best way they can.

[A]

But he's 25 years old. Just for the record.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

It's also a different era from when we were 21 or 31 too though, so.

[C]

And we was broke.

[E]

And he's smart. That's the thing. I watched some of this. He not. He not a dummy. He's smart. Like, they gotta smarten up here. You gotta protect yourself. This is you protecting your money and your fucking freedom. You are a black man. It's already 10 times harder for you. And I'm. It don't matter that you young people just be and coming everywhere. So what? You're not a white boy. You're not from the birds. You're from the hood. This changing your whole life. Taking your whole family out of it. Yes. You cannot risk it for. No, that's crazy. And the fact that I know that they come out they had a girlfriend. It's almost like what the. Like that's stupid. Like, it's stupid. And you got to make better decisions because you can go to jail and lose your.

[C]

No, you're right. I ain't this.

[A]

I'm great. 100 scary. Just hearing him reply cry. He was screaming.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yes. He was saying, yo, I'm not letting this girl ruin my life. I didn't do that. She is lying. She is lying now.

[C]

What if he.

[A]

I would never do that. He said I have a niece. He said I have a mom. He said I have sisters. I'm. I'm just. That's not the man I am that they paint me out to be.

[C]

And like if he didn't have that proof, none of that matters. Nobody gives a if he don't have that proof. And that's really what if you playing that game. Anybody out there? My. You have it sound crazy. You need to start recording and keeping all the evidence you can keep.

[A]

That's because the stakes are too high to not believe a woman when she says of course the stakes are way too high.

[C]

It's too.

[A]

It's too much. So. And I mean honestly, her story when she came out in the beginning, that's why I didn't touch on it because it sounded a little. It sound like some going on. Let's just wait. Let the people that's supposed to vet this investigate this and see what's going on. But like he said, his life is forever affected, in complete turmoil.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

The guy that does that to you, you tell him, I ain't no truck. Where my black truck, like, after. That's how you carry him. It just don't sound right. It don't sound right.

[C]

If that's true. If that's true, the first thing you thinking about is getting the out of there.

[E]

Exactly.

[C]

I look like a Honda Civic. You would take a moped if it pulled up to get away from a rapist. In my opinion, you would think, even though I can't speak for that, but it's just the logical.

[A]

And we shouldn't listen. The people that are supposed to investigate these things, they'll continue to do so when there are facts that we can share and talk about. Cool. Just seeing that video of him was really, really, really, really disturbing. Ice telling me what her response to video says is.

[C]

No, it was just a tweet. She ain't even put it. It was a tweet. Yep, Yep. Still, though.

[A]

All right. Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. I just wanted to ask him what else, what else, what else, what else, what else?

[D]

I want to send a rip.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Okay. Just a quick rip. Angela Yee. Her brother passed away.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Suddenly. And I know a lot of us here know Angela and love Angela. Her brother passed away from brain aneurysm at 51 years old. Her only brother very close. And I know she's hurting right now, so just want to send some love and some healing energy out to our sister.

[E]

Love you, Angie.

[A]

Yeah, love you, Angela. Praying for you. That's super sad. I heard her tell the story to b.com and it was rough. She was just explaining how her brother is somebody that's ultra active in the family. Group chat. When you text him, when you call him, he answers. And then it was just one day where that.

[C]

It wasn't that.

[A]

That response time wasn't there, which alerted the family, and mom went over there and found him on the ground.

[E]

This sucks. I can't imagine, then it's the holidays. That's.

[D]

So as a parent.

[A]

And she. And she went on to say. I mean, it touched me because y' all know I've been having my bouts with headaches, but she was saying he just popped some Advil. And, you know, you think it's day, and you go on about your business. My. My. My headaches were so. Were so crazy. I went and got a brain mri. You should.

[E]

You should.

[C]

You should did the right thing. The other day.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Ain't no point playing. It's not normal.

[A]

Like, so very intelligent. They said. You know, looking at it, they don't.

[E]

They can't see that on that.

[A]

I'm just telling you what he told me. When I did my brain, your frontal lobe and cortex.

[D]

This is where the.

[C]

This is where the nutso part come from. Right here.

[A]

I'm intelligent.

[E]

You are very intelligent. But they didn't tell you that.

[A]

Joey, he told me. I promise you he did. He could have been lying, but. But he told me.

[B]

I'm trying to bag.

[E]

Did you pay him in cash?

[A]

All right, y'. All. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gave him a tip. Did you pay him in cash?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You gave a tip.

[C]

That's crazy. No, but yeah, all of that. Headaches and like, I know people that get them all the time and they just. You get them a lot, too. Yeah, I used to get it. That's why I wear shades all the time.

[A]

Like, just in his head paws. These are.

[C]

These are the smarts. Growing pain smarts up here.

[E]

Well, you know, I. If your head is. Your brain has to be bigger. Technically, we only use half. Your half is way bigger than our heads.

[C]

Exactly. We don't use half.

[A]

Anyway. Angela.

[C]

Ye.

[A]

We praying for you. We love you.

[E]

Love you.

[A]

Angie, that's horrible for anybody to have to go through, especially. Especially at the end of the year, during the holidays. Your sibling that you're close to.

[C]

Close in age, all of that. Yeah, it's a big thing, man. That's crazy.

[A]

It's cool. I'll play a song. Yeah, it's fine. Y' all all sad now. I got you. I got you, buddy. There we go. There we go. Sometimes you read a story or hear a story, and that hit home, man, 51 years old. Angie, we love you. We praying for you and your family.

[C]

I.

[D]

Wish that I could love you back.

[E]

In special way.

[D]

I feel alive. Blow my mind.

[A]

Do you guys care about Kiki Palmer interviewing Blueface?

[B]

Can't wait.

[E]

I'm surprised.

[D]

Why are you surprised?

[A]

Why?

[E]

I just couldn't see that. I didn't see that coming. Blue face. I just. I didn't. I was. God damn. I just was surprised. She interview the he fresh out. How often do she get out there? Every house. To interview him? Exactly. I like blue face down.

[A]

Okay, apparently it's not time for that Kiki Palmer conversation just yet.

[D]

What is the Kiki Palmer conversation?

[A]

I'm the wrong person to deliver what the Kiki Palmer conversation is. I think that you're being facetious. I'm really not very well aware of.

[D]

It's the second time it's come up. It came up in one of my group chats.

[A]

And what did they say in the group chat?

[D]

Are we ready to have the Kiki Palmer conversation? And I know an answer, so that's what I'm saying. I really don't know what it is. I'm not being funny. I really don't know what it is.

[A]

Ask your group chat. I can't tell you.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

I can't tell you. They ain't about to drag me because they love Kiki Palmer.

[D]

Maybe we'll find on Patreon.

[A]

Kiki Palmer. I'll try to tell you. Kiki Palmer, they say is. Well, you familiar with the whole shit she went through with her and her baby dad said that she was being abused, and then he put out the story that kind of painted a different picture. They kill her for her Trey song story, highlighting him as an abuser with that whole. We were in Florida shooting a video, and I had to hide in the closet because I was scared and he made me uncomfortable. But in the next breath, she will praise. She praises a lot of men with abusive.

[D]

I had no idea what y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

Oh, is that the.

[A]

She spoke very highly of R. Kelly when she was on the Breakfast Club. Like, very highly. Extremely highly. She's from Chicago. There's a long list of shit on Kiki Palmer.

[D]

Like, contradictions. I see. I just didn't know what the. I get it.

[A]

So now here we are is a blueface interview, and people are up in arms saying, I mean, on brand for you again, again, it's. You got it. But every time a black person says, are y' all ready to have the Keke Palmer conversation? What happened in your group chat and what happens here? Every time I say it happens, it happens every time.

[D]

Is it because we watched her grow up and we love her so much that people don't want to have uncomfortable conversations about her?

[E]

That is not a killer in the bee. That is Kiki Palmer.

[D]

Imani, are you Mani's asking to have it on Patreon. Are you gonna actually lead it? You gonna have. Okay, can I. Can I say that? Yeah. So the group chat I was talking about was ours. It was Imani that sent it. So that's why I didn't want to answer, because I don't. I didn't want to say it if he didn't want me to say it, but he's saying it's okay. So, Imani.

[A]

Oh, in our group chat, you talking about?

[D]

Yeah. I don't want to say that because we all. But he said it's okay to say so. Pay attention to.

[C]

No, I saw. I saw.

[A]

I saw it. But I was too mad that they ignored my coat. I saw it. I couldn't reply to that and just dubbed my coat right above Amani saying that. But when you said it. Listen, I've been saying it for.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I'm the wrong person to do it because of my checkered pet.

[D]

And I didn't know what Amani was talking about, and I didn't. I didn't ask.

[E]

I'mma look into it, though, because I get my opinion. For real. I like Kiki Farm, but I love real opinion. Like, I didn't notice that. And I believed her about Trey songs. I believed her about her baby dad. So same. But I do think it's to do that to somebody, because, in turn, that's like somebody interviewing her baby father. How would CR Feel about that? But I don't. You know, I like Blue Face, too.

[A]

She's a weirdo. She's weirdo. I don't even have this. This. Yeah, he's just a weirdo.

[E]

This is weird.

[A]

And that's okay. I'm a weirdo. Everybody is their own type of weird. You just got to find the weirds that you compatible with and the weirds that you're not. She's not. That's not my type of weird. But go her.

[E]

We're going to revisit it on Patreon, so any man, he can join because.

[A]

Imani ain't gonna give for. He gonna come call. He gonna. He gonna say it anyway. You guys have anything else? Mark, did any other white woman in the world do anything that black people. People need to be made aware of?

[D]

They did, but it'll be on Patreon.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Mona, is there anything else that you need to share?

[E]

You know what? No, I will. I'll wait till you ask me what I'm doing this weekend.

[B]

What are you doing this weekend?

[E]

Yeah, I'm gonna be at the Shorts Factory in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Make sure you get your tickets and your meet and greets.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

There you go.

[C]

All right.

[E]

Joe Button might be there, or he might not. How would you know till you come?

[A]

Whoa. That was a good one.

[B]

Good pitch.

[E]

That's nice, right?

[C]

I see you did that artist to artist.

[A]

Yes, I see you.

[C]

See you out here.

[E]

Yeah, I did. Oh, yeah, y. I did. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool. That was cool. I want. I did that last night with Jimmy. That's me and I was supposed to go like do. He was supposed to do my part since 202021 or something like that. And we never made it happen. So for us first time to do something to be his his. It was cool. I'm happy for Jimmy. I think podcast isn't good for him though. We had fun though. It was cool.

[C]

Awesome.

[A]

I had fun when I did this too.

[E]

Yeah and his hours are pretty fun. Like I got there at probably one late schmate Vamp life. Remember he was on that?

[C]

You did that too?

[E]

What?

[C]

Joe?

[E]

No, they said Joe was at the crack of dawn. They said well Joe was here. We had to get up at 9 o'. Clock. Joe probably mad at 17.

[A]

I don't do things at night time.

[D]

That's time you say nine o' clock to crack a door.

[A]

Y' all know I don't do things at night time.

[E]

We were open there all night. It's early as like they're. We were there till 4. We left. They were still there.

[A]

I do one thing at night time.

[E]

What's that?

[C]

Throw money.

[A]

Uhuh. And the great words of Houdini. The freaks. Freaks come out.

[C]

Get out your seat.

[A]

Freaks come out at night.

[C]

Moment that I don't want it to.

[A]

Be nighttime and I have to do anything where I need to be my best self, where I need to think, where I need to articulate myself perfectly, where I need to make a song at nighttime is for bullshit or rest. Bullshit, fun or rest.

[B]

I'm kind of getting to that point in my life too.

[A]

I'm telling you, I don't want to.

[B]

Do shit at night.

[A]

In the night time. That's for me. That's my own personal time. Anything we need to do that's important. 8am, 9am, 10am, 11am noon. Around those rush hour marks. But at nighttime. You're not getting me.

[B]

I don't even care if it's. It don't have to be super early, but don't have me on some super late shit.

[C]

Yeah, now I don't play that like.

[B]

I'm done by like 10, 11 o' clock latest.

[A]

Doing things at the night time. You really relying on people to be more punctual than you don't know them to be too like 7 o' clock ain't gonna mean 7 o'. Clock.

[C]

No, it's not.

[D]

That's a good point.

[A]

And then I'm going be mad because I was here since 5:45.

[C]

I was here at 6:15.

[A]

Yeah. No. Play with your time in the nighttime. I'm Cool on that. It was a part of the show here, but it looks like it's about Drake's career, which I wanted to skip. We don't need to talk about that. We can wait. We can wait to get a new one. Can I play a song for y'?

[E]

All?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Come on, let's hit.

[A]

It's Christmas time. So that should be a wrap for most of the new music.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So the other night. Exactly. See you. See you in February. The other night. It ain't gonna be a lot every. It's gonna be a lot of Christmas albums, Christmas EPs, Christmas makeovers. Yeah.

[B]

In January we'll get one sort of biggest album.

[C]

You talking about from the Big Dog?

[B]

I'm talking about from. Yeah, there might be some indie stuff.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I think people work.

[B]

There's always indie stuff.

[A]

Anyway, last night I went to do a quick little check anyway just off the muscle memory and I love this song so much, I cut the TV off and. And left this on loop and went to sleep.

[C]

Who is it?

[A]

Seven.

[C]

Oh, yeah. She put a little joint.

[A]

This is Seven singing a song over an interpolation of 93 until by souls of mistress. Souls of mischief. Like to hear it. This came on. I was like, damn, it sound like mine. Sound like that's sound like that. Souls are. Nah, she ain't about to. Here you go. I almost started to buy with this. That's how highly I think it is. Hey, anytime 7th Streeter get to talking about over some jazzy. Listen up. Here you go.

[D]

Let me.

[E]

Spell.

[A]

This is so tough, yo. This is so tough.

[D]

I love this.

[A]

This is so tough. And since it ain't but a couple seconds left, I just want to let y' all hear the part. You got the part of the show loaded up?

[D]

Yes, sir.

[A]

I told y' all live instruments at the end of the songs is coming back. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Night time, night time. 7th Street. I love you, yo. You're amazing. What an amazing song.

[B]

I usually go don't like flips of old records like that.

[A]

But that. That's fire N she did.

[B]

That's why shout out to producers.

[A]

All right, you get that. You can get that. You need that stupid ass Ferrari. Ain't got no speakers. You can't do but hear engine. You can't play nothing sexy, see.

[B]

Oh, De what do you know, huh? D D what do you know? D yeah, it's called 97, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

De shout to.

[A]

Of course it was D. Man is going crazy. Going crazy. Absolutely ridiculous.

[B]

About 10 years.

[A]

God damn. That's crazy. All right. Part of the show, Mark.

[D]

We got a part of the show here. It's a little long, but I'm going read it to my brothers and sister on jbp. I don't remember exactly when I fell in love with jbp, but I know why I love it. One of the main reasons is because it takes me back to road trips with my college football teammates. Then and even now, when we're headed to NFL or NBA games, the JBP feels like home. And because it feels like home, I'm reminded of something James Baldwin said about love in America. That love gives you the right and the responsibility to critique it. So out of that same love, I got a question, one I've asked my boys and more importantly, myself. When will my brothers on the JBP stop feeling the need to distance themselves from anything that might be perceived as gay? Or is there something else that feels more important to protect? I know words like Paul's and no homo are part of our culture, and this question isn't coming from a place of saying black men are more or less homophobic than anybody else. History tells us we didn't and still don't have the power to do that kind of stuff. But as a black man, I still find the weight and the sting of the. I'm sorry. As a black gay man, I still feel the weight and the sting of that casual homophobia from y', all, from my boys, from spaces that are supposed to feel like home because I call them home. Let me be clear. I don't believe any of you are homophobic in the sense that you'd vote against LGBTQ rights or want harm to come to gay folks. I know that that's the easy part. The harder part, and the part I actually want to talk about is casual homophobia. The I'm cool with gay people as long as nobody thinks I'm gay energy. The jokes, the pauses, the quick need to clarify you're straight. That's the stuff that creates distance, even when it's not intentional. Love for your gay brothers without the pauses will remove that keeps. Or remove the distance that keeps us apart. And, yeah, I know people joke about Joe being bi or gay, and you can point to that like, see, we're cool with gay shit, but that's not the conversation I want to have. I'm skipping a little bit, so I'll ask it plainly. When will words like pause stop being necessary, knowing the impact they can have physically, mentally, and even, and how laws and culture get shaped when will the love you have for your brothers, including your gay brothers, be enough to make you want to let those habits go? Because those words and jokes, even when they're playful, reinforce the idea that being gay is something to avoid, something to laugh off. And that doesn't help brothers like me or gay folks in general feel truly accepted. It just reminds us that at our core, because of our sexuality, we're tolerated, not embraced. Much love.

[E]

That was so well written.

[B]

It was.

[C]

It is.

[E]

It was. And you're right.

[B]

I think some of the pause in AO stuff isn't necessarily a homophobic thing or even about something gay. It's just something sexual in nature. I do want to start. Yeah, it's kind of like that's what she said, in my opinion. I feel like sometimes it is a little bit.

[E]

I feel like. Like I dropped the F word right there. I started. And the F word was something that I would. You was like, in a traffic jam, you cut me off. I never got in an argument with a gay guy and called him an F word. If I got in an argument with a gay guy, I talked about his shoes. They know how to talk shit good. I'mma really talk shit, you know? But I stopped using it because I was, like, talking to fans, and somebody told me how I made them feel. And my mind is like, if that's a diss, right? But this is what somebody is. It's like, that's how you view me. And it's like, when I got to a position where people, Humans, could elevate me, I never want to hurt them. You know what I mean? Like, if this. I understand that this don't work without them. Part of the reason why I talk to everybody and do meet and greets and take pictures and miss likes take pictures and all that. So it's like, for me, like, I was. And it happened so fast. It's something I never thought I would do. Like, that was my favorite word. It was my grandma favorite word too. But not only did I stop saying the word, I encourage people around me to stop saying the word because it's hurt. Hurtful. And when you think about it in that way, I mean, why wouldn't you feel like, if gay is a slur up here, why wouldn't the gay people that like us feel like, damn, feel offended? Yeah, I feel like here's when I. Since I came, it's just something that y' all kind of do. Like, it's almost like it's just part of the lingo here. It doesn't Even feel like it's really all the way there. Like, even when people play, like, it's like, so when y' all do it that it's like, hard to, you know. But I could see why somebody that loves y' all and me, you know, would feel that way.

[D]

So it's a tough thing. I don't have a good answer. Yeah, I think he's right.

[C]

He's a thousand.

[D]

I think he's 1,000% right.

[A]

I mean, he's right.

[C]

He's a thousand percent. Let's start with he's a thousand percent right.

[A]

He's right. And the way that we about to speak about it or how it's used culturally. Right. When he uses words like necessary, like, why do you feel. Deem it necessary to say pause? Or that's a. That's real shit.

[C]

No. Or to separate yourself from anything gay, as if it's taboo or if it's wrong, a bad thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And that's what. And essentially that's what the game does. Pause, pause, pause. I ain't, you know, I'm saying, like, I never heard it articulated like that. It's real.

[A]

We. We should.

[C]

We should.

[D]

We should stop it.

[C]

Yeah, we should.

[A]

When we speak to real adults, like, they make good points.

[E]

I mean, especially when he says something about, like, ultimately, it'll always leave us, like the gay, like gay people just feeling like, well, damn, like we'll never be accepted. We always gonna be on the outside. You know what I mean? Like, that's the perfect.

[A]

I deal with that enough to have to listen to this broadcast and feel like that. For me especially, I'm big on your words and your actions matching. Nothing in my heart is homophobic.

[E]

Yeah, you're not homophobic.

[A]

Homophobic. Ish. Nothing is against that community. Like, so if it's not that, then sound like that. Sound like that. I'll pause less. I'll pause less.

[C]

Put the pause on the pause.

[A]

I'm down with pausing less. 1 and 2. You don't have to do everything publicly. You don't have to do everything publicly if you're gonna play the fucking pause game. You ain't gotta get on such a large broadcast with millions of people listening and pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. We get caught up in our sense of humor and our inside joke and shit, and sometimes don't pay no mind to how a listener may be feeling. And that's somebody. Somebody. Jan. Jan DM me last week and said, joe, I love you and I know it's nothing, but you went kinda Hard on white girls. Last part. And I know you don't feel like that, so just be mindful of it. I said, you're right.

[E]

No, she didn't.

[A]

I mean, she's right. I don't hate white girls. I don't hate white people.

[C]

So, I mean, I ain't running around.

[A]

Just with all this hating me, so. Just got to be careful. That how you sound on a broadcast is who you are, right? I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. And. And thank you for that part.

[C]

Yeah. That was amazing. That's a good one.

[E]

Yeah. I'm not going to stop saying now.

[A]

The change won't happen overnight.

[D]

Yeah, but can we all agree to some baby steps here? We all going to pause a lot less. Can we say a lot less?

[A]

Well, you keep wearing gay ass in here. You got them gay boxers.

[D]

There's nothing gay about no gay man.

[E]

I say it because I'm basically a stud.

[D]

Oh, man.

[A]

It's crazy.

[E]

Yo, you love you.

[A]

We couldn't be mature for.

[B]

Yeah, we didn't make it.

[D]

We didn't make it 10 minutes.

[E]

He opened the door for me. I was waiting.

[B]

Don't do it.

[A]

You know what? Today was good.

[C]

It was.

[D]

It was good.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

It was a good day.

[D]

We got food coming too. I'm ready to put something in my mouth. Man. That was a test. That was a test.

[B]

I think he's got a couple different meats over there.

[E]

Y' all did that to me. Y' all did that to me.

[B]

Would it be weird if we took both meats at the same time?

[D]

You feel free. You can just have these questions without no penalties. You say?

[A]

Listen, man, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you ado farewell. Adios. Arrivederchi. Hasta la vista, Arbois.

[E]

So long.

[A]

Goodbye or simple head nodded will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. You might need it also. Again, rest in peace. To Angela Yee's brother. Check up on your health. If you're getting headaches, don't just overlook it. If you have a certain age. We love you, we need you Around. Anybody doing anything fun over the weekend? Anything interesting? Not you, Mona. We heard. We heard. Get your tickets. We heard. Not you. Enough of you. Enough of you. Anybody else? Anybody else doing something fun over the weekend? Christmas shopping. Christmas shopping. Love you, ladies.

[C]

Baby free. So we might, you know, be outside for a little bit too. But it's all Christmas shopping right now.

[A]

All right. Lucky rim.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Lucky missing piece. Lucky.

[E]

This is crazy, bro.

[D]

Look out.

[A]

Let me look. Lucky email.

[D]

Yes. He doesn't do Christmas gifts right? I'm like, not really lucky.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I keep forgetting that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, that Muslim, Y.

[B]

Some perks.

[E]

Got to be Muslim. Like, what's up with that Muslim. I'mma right in my damn self with a different name.

[C]

I might be able to fast for a little bit.

[D]

Bit.

[A]

I don't have too much going on this weekend. I'm baby free. I'm lady free. So just got a little bit of time, man.

[C]

Probably you just be in the house reading.

[A]

I went and bought up, bought some canvases from Michaels.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I got to draw some. Yeah, yeah. Drug it back into my artsy bag.

[B]

Watercolors.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

You want paint?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm going paint a little bit. I wore some books. Nice. I bought some books.

[B]

Prayer books mostly.

[A]

We'll see what's going on. Yeah.

[B]

Scripture.

[A]

Yeah. So we'll see, man.

[C]

You bought art books or books to read?

[A]

Both.

[D]

Got a.

[C]

Got a good Bible.

[A]

Yeah. And that's my weekend, man. Just being faithful.

[B]

That's all you got to do.

[A]

That's all we can do.

[D]

With the smoothness. I do this even with my crew kits.

[A]

Go, nick. Always.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

This is.

[D]

This is how we chill from 93. 2.

[E]

This is how we chill from 93. 2.

[D]

Yeah, this is how we chill from 93, too.

[A]

Oh, I meant to tell y' all this in the beginning. We are taking off for Christmas after Christmas. That is. Christmas is the 25th. 26th. The 27th. The 27th. There will be no podcast because the 2026th, there will be no podcasters. We are taking off. We are taking a well deserved, much needed break. We love y', all, but y' all will get through the weekend without us. I mean, we got families to see, gifts to unwrap, kids to love on. We got to do, man, y' all hold it down out there till next time. We'll be back same time, same place. After that. I said, man, we got one more pod left and then we get a little break.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Nice little break. Nice little break.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

I don't care if you look annoyed, I'm playing. If you ain't got a drop and you don't have a drop all do something besides say Demona. Demona. You ain't got no. You've never. You've never heard of Joe Buddy, who is that?

[E]

I don't got no problem with gay people. Gay people work for me right now. Right now. I'm damn near around gay people every day cuz they work for me. I don't got no problem with them. That's never not funny.