Episode 890 | "Living Righteously"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 890 | "Living Righteously"

Date: December 31, 2025
Host: Joe Budden
Co-hosts: Parks, Ish, Flip
Network: The Joe Budden Network

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Episode Overview

The final episode of 2025 finds Joe Budden and crew reflecting on the year and discussing topics around living righteously as they approach 2026. With their trademark humor and candidness, the hosts dive into relationships, digital clean-up, holiday traditions, music beefs, and cultural news, giving out equal parts life advice, music critique, and comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Living Righteously Going into 2026

Time stamps: 02:23–08:30

• Theme Introduction: The idea of "living righteously" is the episode’s philosophical current. Joe expresses a desire to shift towards more positive choices, refraining from giving unnecessary explanations for his life decisions.
  • “I'mma live righteously. Yeah. It's a balancing act.” – Joe Budden [02:23]
• They joke about unfollowing Instagram “distractions” and cleaning up their digital lives as part of this new righteous approach.
  • “Unfollowing all these hoes on the ‘gram... part of getting your life together is cleaning up your digital space.” – Joe Budden [07:11, 08:15]

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2. Relationship Double-Standards & Explanations

Time stamps: 01:42–06:45

• Joe, Ish, Parks, and Flip discuss the tendency for men to avoid explaining their actions in relationships, leading to comedic anecdotes and debate on transparency versus privacy.
  • “I'm done explaining. I'm not explaining nothing.” – Joe Budden [04:46]
• They joke about the double standard of men refusing to answer questions, but freely asking their partners anything.
  • “I told my wife I'm not answering no questions, but I'm going to ask you questions.” – Parks [04:03]

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3. Domestic Life and Sick Partners

Time stamps: 06:45–07:59

• Discussion around how to handle a sick partner—whether to care for them or avoid them (with masks and sleeping in another room).
  • “If one of us is sick, one of us is sleeping somewhere else.” – Flip [06:24]
• Joe takes a more balanced approach, saying he’ll leave medicine and come home early but won’t miss important events.

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4. Holiday Reflections

Time stamps: 33:01–47:01

• The crew shares how they celebrated Christmas and reflects on the importance of family, traditions, and setting boundaries.
  • “This was the first time since my daughter was one that she woke up with me on Christmas.” – Ish [33:04]
• Discussion of breaking family traditions as you grow older and create new immediate family customs.
  • “When you have your own family, it becomes you're not doing it intentionally... you start building your own tradition.” – Parks [39:27]
• Realizations about reassessing social circles and boundaries for the new year.
  • “There are levels to where I'm trying to go and levels to where they're trying to go. Everybody can't go.” – Parks [36:41]

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5. Rap Beef: Mayno, Jim Jones, Dave East & Fabolous Respond to 50 Cent

Time stamps: 47:09–69:46

• The hosts break down the “Let’s Rap About It” podcast crew's response tracks to 50 Cent’s criticisms, playing and analyzing each freestyle.
  • “That was a great way to get equity out of a 16, 24, or 32… it's a cheat code, absolutely fire.” – Joe Budden [52:36]
• Fabolous’ verse is widely praised.
  • “Fab got a lot more direct than the rest of them… this boy sound like ghetto fab.” – Joe Budden [60:24]
• Commentary extends to how podcasting rappers (and vice versa) are shifting hip-hop’s media landscape.

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Memorable Quotes from Freestyle Analysis

• “How you got brolic but not solid? And they trying to pull cards like we ain’t got wallets.” – Joe reciting Fabolous’ bar [62:09]
• “I like the trend of podcasters rapping, or rappers podcasting… If you can rap and you podcast, you should still rap.” – Joe Budden [65:16]

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6. Cultural News and Debates

Puff Daddy’s Sons’ Zeus Documentary

Time stamps: 80:46–98:09

• The panel debates Justin and Christian Combs’ upcoming mini-series airing on Zeus about the Puff trial.
  • "I cannot believe that this is happening." – Joe Budden [81:20]
• Joe argues it’s a bad idea, unlikely to redeem Puff’s public perception and possibly further damaging his sons’ reputations.
  • “Nothing good is coming from this. This could not be a worse idea at a worse time.” – Joe Budden [84:07]
• Others (Ish, Flip) counter that giving the family a chance to tell their side isn’t inherently wrong.
  • “We should hear the other side.” – Flip [81:26]
  • Final consensus: overwhelmingly negative public reception predicted; only Zeus wins.

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Tyler Perry Accusations

Time stamps: 129:01–143:16

• Discussion about new allegations against Tyler Perry of sexual misconduct.
• Humor and skepticism mix with a “wait for the facts” approach:
  • “Do y’all think that Tyler Perry is running around grabbing dudes by the dick maybe and offering them scripts maybe?” – Joe Budden [132:22]
  • “Both things could be true.” – Flip [133:00]

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7. Kai Cenat’s Public Breakup and Relationship Advice

Time stamps: 101:27–124:39

• Kai Cenat tweets about heartbreak; the hosts reflect on how devastating young, first love breakups can be—especially in the public eye.
  • “24… That’s the time that immediately rid me of any take I was coming in here to say about Kai Cenat’s breakup.” – Joe Budden [102:46]
• Advice ranges from “Don’t do public relationships” to tongue-in-cheek encouragement to get “under a bunch of new girls” (though admitting this rarely helps emotionally).
• Insightful, compassionate segment on young public figures and heartbreak: “Yo, heartbreak is a thing, bro.” – Ish [113:41]

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8. Personal Goals and 2026 Resolutions

Time stamps: 189:33–197:15

• Each host shares their goals for the coming year. Themes include:
  • Physical health and hitting the gym (“I want to be more physically fit… you start getting older, you start feeling that, dog” — Ish [190:36])
  • Continuing positive routines, learning new things, and “getting uncomfortable.”
  • Reflection on gratitude and thanks for listeners: “All I got is thank you. Word.” – Joe Budden [196:02]
• Encouragement to clean up one’s literal and metaphorical space for 2026.

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9. Lighter Segments & Running Jokes

• Tradition of roasting Ice for coming to the studio without a shape-up [12:51–15:55]
• Banter over Mac vs. HP laptops and anti-Apple people [17:07–19:32]
• Humorous exchanges about serial killer rumors, sleepy stickers "drugging" kids at daycare, and bizarre memes [153:52–170:51]

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Notable Quotes

"Part of getting your life together is cleaning up your digital space."
Joe Budden [08:15]

"When you have your own family, you start building your own tradition."
Parks [39:27]

"Yo, heartbreak is a thing, bro."
Ish [113:41]

"Unfollowing all these hoes on the ‘gram… look at this atrocity off my page… get all the porn off my frequency."
Joe Budden [07:09]

"Some battles ain’t for our kids. They for us."
Joe Budden [100:59]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Living Righteously Theme/Resolutions: 02:23–08:30
• Relationship Explanations/Double Standards: 01:42–06:45
• Holiday Reflections/Traditions: 33:01–47:01
• Hip-Hop Beef (Let’s Rap About It): 47:09–69:46
• Puff Docuseries Debate: 80:46–98:09
• Tyler Perry Allegations Segment: 129:01–143:16
• Kai Cenat Breakup, Relationship Advice: 101:27–124:39
• Personal Goals for 2026: 189:33–197:15

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Closing Sentiment

The hosts close the year expressing gratitude, growth, and blessings, underscoring their commitment to self-improvement, family, and authentic living in 2026. They urge listeners to stay safe, reflect, and live righteously — with the same sharp wit and heart that carried them through another year of the JBP.

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“Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have.”
— Joe Budden [202:20]

Happy New Year from the Joe Budden Podcast!

Transcript

[Joe Budden]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Parks]

Sorry we're here. Go ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Parks]

He warned me about talking first. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. Ladies and gentlemen, can't be the first voice. Joe Button from the Joe Budden podcast is at work. This is my voice that you hear appropriately so. Appropriately so. Not Queen's Flip. Not doctor. Whatever this.

[Flip]

Mark, I thought you talk about ish ish doctor too. Doctor.

[Joe Budden]

Ish doctor. You know what I mean? Last part of the year.

[Ish]

Yeah, we did it.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I mean? We made it.

[Ish]

We made it.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah. I guess it is, right?

[Joe Budden]

If we survive tomorrow, God willing, we made it.

[Ish]

Well, the pot will be out though.

[Joe Budden]

Well, today because tomorrow. You know. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, at that point. But now it pains me to start this way. Oh, I'm not gonna lie to you. Oh, so much is wrong. So much is wrong. Do you want me to wait? I need my headphones.

[Parks]

Why everything gotta be so theatrical?

[Joe Budden]

Get to it.

[Flip]

It's a broadcast.

[Ish]

He's a professional.

[Parks]

Pardon me.

[Joe Budden]

I'm the best in the business. And a large part of that is dramatic effect. It is being performative and adding suspense to what otherwise may be an anti climactic moment. Since I need to explain everything, it's the other thing I don't like explaining. I told my girl.

[Ish]

That don't work.

[Joe Budden]

I don't work with them. 20, 26.

[Parks]

I'm not explaining.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing is what the.

[Flip]

Sound good?

[Ish]

Sounds amazing.

[Parks]

Go watch my man show now.

[Joe Budden]

Now, on the other side of that, I'mma live righteously.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. It's a balancing act.

[Parks]

And on the other side, you still.

[Ish]

Going to be explaining some for sure.

[Flip]

Why you so righteous?

[Parks]

What the.

[Ish]

That don't change me.

[Joe Budden]

You got to explain things even when you living righteous.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Parks]

No.

[Ish]

Okay. Shut up.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, give me some idea. Give me an idea.

[Ish]

I got a br. I got one. I. I really got one.

[Joe Budden]

You give it to me.

[Ish]

So. So this is a true story. Yesterday I'm on the phone. So you know I got companion pass, right? So I bought a companion pass for my girl. So I called the dude that I gotta pay for the pass. He like, yo, my n. You know, my girl is on my benefits. She went to go book a Flight. And she seen your girl name.

[Flip]

Aw, shit, right?

[Ish]

Cause you know they. So he's like, dawg, do you know I got in an hour long argument with my girl? Like, who the fuck is this bitch? Oh, you dating some Spanish bitch?

[Parks]

Oh, shit, dog.

[Ish]

I said, fam, why you ain't just called my phone?

[Joe Budden]

You do got one. You have a white girl that looks Spanish on the paper.

[Ish]

I said, yo, why you ain't. I said, yo, why you ain't just call my phone?

[Parks]

Why is she appropriate?

[Joe Budden]

That boy is? You can't tell what's going on with him. He's a mystery.

[Parks]

She's exotic.

[Ish]

Yo, dog, the nigga really wasn't doing nothing wrong and really got in trouble. I said, yo, my nigga, why you ain't just call my phone?

[Joe Budden]

Helen Rodriguez.

[Parks]

Helen. He got.

[Ish]

Yo, I was hollering, yo. He's like, yo, bro, I really got in trouble. Like, he like, yo, she didn't even want to come down here for New Year's over that.

[Parks]

I. I told my wife I'm not answering no questions, but I'm going to ask you questions. It's. It's double standards with me. I ask you. Yeah, I ain't answering.

[Joe Budden]

Fa.

[Parks]

Huh?

[Ish]

Fa.

[Parks]

Nah. No, it's not. She. Her own bread. She had on bread. She had a home bread.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

But I answering nothing. That's cool. I'm gonna end up answering anyway because she gonna give me the answer. You gotta say, you gotta let your nuts hang going into 20, 26. You got to go into it with a bang.

[Joe Budden]

All that piece I got gotta up it. Nah, he. He. Nah, he on to something. He may not. He may be making it sound like he went through the school.

[Parks]

Are you.

[Joe Budden]

But I agree with what he's saying, so.

[Parks]

So make it sound un.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done explaining. I'm not explaining.

[Ish]

I'm on your team.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing.

[Ish]

I know you know.

[Joe Budden]

You know what time. See y' all think.

[Flip]

How long you think it's last?

[Parks]

4.

[Joe Budden]

It's.

[Ish]

It stopped already performing for us. When is this broadcast? When is this gonna start?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, y' all say that. And because. And because we. Because we. Because we friends and we ignorant and we do this ignorant podcast. It comes off like I'm talking about romantically, but at least six, seven, eight months before this moment. It's been to companies and you fortune 500 niggas and. Yeah, I mean, you big corporations out there. It's been for quite some time. I'm not explaining nothing, man. It's Done.

[Ish]

Oh, no, we only talking about at home. At home, yeah. I'm with you.

[Flip]

To the rest of the world.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Run it up them. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh. Oh, I'm sure. I'll explain to me. We know.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

That's all we was talking about.

[Flip]

Starting at 8:05am Tomorrow.

[Parks]

Tomorrow.

[Ish]

Tomorrow.

[Flip]

Well, today, yes.

[Ish]

Let her walk in.

[Flip]

That's true, too.

[Ish]

We've seen it.

[Joe Budden]

My baby's a little under the weather. Hopefully she get well soon, you know what I mean? Shout out to anybody out there that may be dealing with a little.

[Flip]

I'm glad I got my shit out the way.

[Joe Budden]

A little cold, some type of sickness. And shout out to the significant others that gotta be there to nurse them to help. Because when me and her live together, I gotta tell you.

[Flip]

Oh, I sleep in the whole other room. You bugging. I put on the mask. What do you mean bringing some sick.

[Joe Budden]

If this.

[Flip]

If one of us is sick, one of us is sleeping somewhere else.

[Ish]

Oh, they.

[Joe Budden]

No. Oh, they doing some married shit. Yeah. That ain't what I'm saying at all. Nope.

[Flip]

What are you saying?

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying if there's an event that got to attend, I'll leave the Pepto Bismo by the night table and I'll try to come home a little earlier.

[Ish]

No, the event going to be in Curacao.

[Joe Budden]

I'm on that, too. I'm on trips to Curacao. 26 with the bros. Yo, it don't even sound right.

[Flip]

It doesn't sound good, to be honest.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, with the bros. Oh, my God, man. I was leading somewhere before all of this started. What were we talking about?

[Flip]

Living righteously.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, thank you. Yeah. Living righteously. Unfollowing all these holes on the ground. Wow. Word. Not all, but a good percentage. It's over, dog. It's overdog. It's the winter time. You can't dress. You done lost weight. You look stupid. Doing your little Pilates. Now, some of y' all is like, y' all got a man. I saw him. Grave mistake. Showing me your man. I can't follow you now. Look at this ball you running around with, talking about Merry Christmas, me. Look at me, him and our daughter. You got a daughter? Get the out. I'm unfollowing all of them. Get this. Get this atrocity off of my page. Get all of the porn off my frequency.

[Ish]

It's. It's.

[Joe Budden]

It's distracting me now. I ain't looking for these holes, man. I'm just fighting for nothing.

[Flip]

Living righteous.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I'm just fighting for Principle. I ain't even. I ain't even fighting. But it's just a convo for nothing. I don't give a fuck about these holes.

[Parks]

Move.

[Joe Budden]

It's over. It's over. Now it's over. Cleaning it up for 26.

[Flip]

Look at that.

[Joe Budden]

Part of getting your life together is cleaning up your digital space.

[Flip]

Not wrong.

[Ish]

That's a good point. I agree.

[Joe Budden]

You're right.

[Parks]

I agree.

[Joe Budden]

I'm on. I'm. I'm big on. On what the energy is and what you manifesting for the New Year. I am big on that.

[Ish]

I got a book for you.

[Joe Budden]

Yep.

[Ish]

A different type of book too.

[Flip]

The Bible?

[Ish]

No, no, other.

[Parks]

That. Preach gonna you up.

[Flip]

Why don't you tell us what the book.

[Ish]

Yeah, what's the name of the book?

[Flip]

Keep the books.

[Ish]

They say that what it's about. You can't find a book nowhere. Somebody put me on it.

[Joe Budden]

So you don't want to say the.

[Ish]

Book in case you can't even buy it on Amazon?

[Joe Budden]

Can you tell me what it's about?

[Ish]

Manifestation.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay.

[Ish]

It's different. Can you send me the name of the book? I'm pretty sure I can find. I'm gonna give it to everybody. I got it, but they. They don't have it on Amazon or none of that.

[Joe Budden]

Now Flip was late for work, so surprise, surprise. Last time I saw him, he got a Christmas bonus, and then he was off for a pod. He was late. But chipper spirits, you know what I mean?

[Parks]

First of all, I didn't take shipper vibes. I didn't take my whole Christmas bonus.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all can't bring the vibes. There's nothing that y' all could do to bring the vibes down today, all right?

[Parks]

I didn't take my whole Christmas bonus.

[Joe Budden]

Why?

[Ish]

What happened?

[Flip]

Because by the time it got to you, it wasn't.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Parks]

I counted wrong. I counted raw like an idiot. I don't know what was going on. Counted wrong, but I called my man.

[Flip]

Once you get past 20, it gets a little confusing.

[Parks]

Nah, I got the 15 and it got.

[Joe Budden]

I got.

[Ish]

It got fuzzy like my 3 year.

[Joe Budden]

Old.

[Ish]

17.

[Parks]

Called my man, he said, shit. He said he gave my bread to the doorman.

[Ish]

I mean, it was left over.

[Flip]

We all bought ribs with your keys, dog.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dawg, you want to talk about being Beyonce on Christmas, nigga? Everybody I passed got some ones or something, some foot money. I was like, yo, I don't know where this extra money came from, but here I would pull out my Big.

[Ish]

Bottega bag, pull out some sneakers. A little dirty dog.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, here I was throwing money like these niggas was my favorite bartender, man, go ahead. And they were so appreciative. They were so just grateful. Jaw dropped to the floor. I could have got dude head if I wanted something, yo. Holy shit.

[Ish]

I didn't think that's where that was going.

[Joe Budden]

If I wanted something. Living righteousness in 2020 I did. Living righteous.

[Flip]

Living righteous.

[Joe Budden]

Living righteous.

[Ish]

I didn't think that's where you were going.

[Joe Budden]

You know how good you got to feel to even ponder that them be. Anyway, anyway, it was a good Christmas.

[Parks]

We don't think like that.

[Joe Budden]

A lot of people was happy.

[Parks]

Salute.

[Joe Budden]

It was. It was a vibe, yo. Now I am going to start this show. I just put up Corey laundry day on Tuesday. Cory, they finally here for you. Oh, Cory, they finally came on the day he got his emotionally this little podcast hideout job. They got us, buddy.

[Ish]

What's wrong with you?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, just serve the warrant, yo. Just serve it.

[Flip]

Live righteously, my brother.

[Joe Budden]

I'm in a real good mood. Audience listen. So everybody had a pod off. It felt good to be off last week for Friday it felt. I feel so refreshed and rejuvenated. Same and you know what I mean. Today I was ready for work. I was here early, excited to see everybody. Our good brother Mark is not here and he's a way of speaking engagement, praying for him to get back and return safely. Shout out to our good sister Mona, here with us in spirit. So I'm in here and I'm working and I'm feeling good. Last part of the year. I'm thinking everybody's about to be beautiful and smelling good and just clothes ironed and did they facial regimen put they skin so soft on and shit. And Ice, what's up? And I'm talking to Ice and I'm looking Ice in the face. Well, this nigga's fucking uglier today. For some strange reason I can't put my finger on it. That's what I'm thinking in my head. Like, yo, why does this nigga look like the whole fucking can of dog food in the face right now? I'm pondering that for like five minutes. Like, why is this mother fucking sea walrus face? Why the fuck is he in here looking like?

[Ish]

And then it hit me, what's wrong with you? This nigga's all weird.

[Joe Budden]

It looks like a furry sea walrus. And then I'm like, I didn't get a shape up.

[Parks]

Oh, Man.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm like if there's one person in the world that should not come to work without a shape up, he.

[Parks]

Usually gets it too twice a day.

[Joe Budden]

Look at freeze.

[Parks]

Mm. What's been going on?

[Flip]

It's winter time, right?

[Ish]

You know what? He hit me back with a picture of him and his wife on a boat in Dr. Oh, I see. Yo my again?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah again fam. What's up? But he know he's you.

[Flip]

You ain't got a pair of walls at the crib.

[Ish]

I'm not doing that shit myself.

[Joe Budden]

But the Parks, he's got a trace. Hey Parks, mute up for a minute.

[Parks]

Leave him alone. Yo, that's all right.

[Ish]

No rock your shit.

[Joe Budden]

It's the last day of the year, bro. But that's why we gotta really get to the bottom of things.

[Parks]

Leave him alone.

[Ish]

I mean I can go home.

[Flip]

You don't got a second string barber.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah the that's so in love with their girl that they just don't give a. You haven't met that these guys just in a relationship.

[Parks]

I don't care.

[Joe Budden]

A dude that just letting himself all the way go because they in love. I you can't walk around like this.

[Ish]

I ain't trying to. I told you what I'm gonna do.

[Joe Budden]

This gone and you got shades on. You need face shade.

[Ish]

You need to.

[Joe Budden]

You need to shade.

[Ish]

I don't have to take this abuse this said you good.

[Joe Budden]

You need shades for your cheekbones. He need the shiesty or some ice is oh but you shouldn't be held hostage by your barbers guest that's some real poor. You passed that. You passed that.

[Ish]

I might ain't secondary barber.

[Joe Budden]

Secondary barber, tertiary barber. Yeah or barber and turks. What you know what I mean. Barber wearing turquoise whatever the he said.

[Ish]

It'S the third.

[Joe Budden]

And the turt and the treacherous one or get you a clipper and do it to I'm not self but don't stand before me like that Norelco. Don't come around this friend group again like that. Listen. Nah we still gotta be the friend group that get a little gillette that snap on you. We still gotta be the friend group to hold each other account. We can't just show up as. Yeah. I mean 20 years.

[Ish]

No.

[Flip]

Stupid yo that's not living righteous.

[Ish]

I missed you to make fun of.

[Flip]

Your brothers in this way.

[Ish]

No no, no listen I'm not they the only ones who did it.

[Parks]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

I feel like I could throw a razor blade at him and he would and he would Fare better than. Than this. Cory could probably edge you up real quick. Yeah, I feel like if you just hand me one of them butter knives over there, I could do something to this. And you slept in bed with your girl?

[Ish]

Damn right.

[Parks]

You think he slept that man?

[Joe Budden]

See, we gotta have some responsibility, man. You can't do that.

[Ish]

Okay? Don't talk about my family. Oh, get out of there.

[Joe Budden]

I'm out.

[Ish]

There we go.

[Joe Budden]

I'm out. I left. I'm done. I'm the only one to think about that. I'm gonna start soon. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna start soon.

[Parks]

You look clean. You look clean.

[Ish]

Thank you, sir.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's why you laughing so much at other. You look clean.

[Ish]

Is that what I'm doing?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Barber blended it, right? He blended the top, right? You went from sun roof to. To drop top or whatever the.

[Joe Budden]

That is hair growing back. He got that cheat.

[Ish]

Let me see you hating.

[Joe Budden]

He got that cheat in his back pocket.

[Parks]

Boy, turn around.

[Joe Budden]

That boy. That boy look like a. A cuff. Wherever you buy a cheat from. That look like a. A smooth.

[Parks]

You. That's why Joe said, I'm impressed by anything that ain't growing back. Boy, you almost. You had me fool with the laptop.

[Ish]

You hating, though.

[Parks]

You hating, though. Yo, you hating this. All right, Yo, y', all, I put.

[Ish]

I put you on.

[Parks]

Yo, we were arguing behind the scenes.

[Joe Budden]

You know, I know y' all like this. Happy New Year.

[Parks]

Excuse me.

[Joe Budden]

Work.

[Parks]

Be quiet. No, we were arguing behind the scenes about laptops. So Ish, you know, said that HP might be more expensive than the Mac.

[Flip]

No, he said it was.

[Parks]

It was.

[Ish]

So I didn't say that before we start with the bullshit.

[Parks]

Okay, got you. So then Ish, show me hp that cost like eight grand. I'm like, oh, Joe said, yo, Ish, stop, bro. That laptop you got, that was a 300. Hom was having food. You thought.

[Ish]

Oh, you thought he had the one.

[Joe Budden]

That he showed you?

[Parks]

I thought he showed me. Oh, you lit. I was bigging him up. Cause I love him. And Joe shut that whole down.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you be having faith in. And he tried it too.

[Ish]

I didn't try nothing. All right, yo, y' all just say whatever.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Parks]

It's cool.

[Joe Budden]

He asked you, and I promise, Happy New Year.

[Ish]

You got a hp? I said, why? Is that cheap?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

He said, yo, cuz, a Mac costs more than hps. And I said, that's not true. It's levels to all types of laptops. You could get a high end Mac. You could get A high end HP laptop.

[Joe Budden]

Which one you got?

[Ish]

Middle of the road like 1400. But his statement is true, though. What? That the Mac costs more. Even if you take them both at base model, both at mid level, both at high end, the Mac, same specs is going to be more so he's still right.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

But you still a Mac.

[Ish]

It's cool, bro.

[Joe Budden]

You. You a Mac.

[Parks]

Yeah, you the man.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I'm showing. We don't even know where you buy a Hewlett Packard. Where you get a Hewlett Packard from?

[Flip]

Circuit City, Radio Shack.

[Parks]

Everywhere.

[Ish]

Everywhere.

[Joe Budden]

Radio Shack.

[Parks]

Staples.

[Joe Budden]

You get that shit from 14th Street Electronics.

[Parks]

You get square elect.

[Flip]

We fix pH.

[Parks]

We fix.

[Joe Budden]

We fix crack screens come in.

[Parks]

He's so against iPhones.

[Ish]

He don't with it.

[Parks]

Apple.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Anti Apple. People are die hard about that now.

[Ish]

It's just not a big deal. Give a about that.

[Joe Budden]

They got that when I go to Zags. What the is that in the back of Zags? They got all that Hewlett Packard.

[Ish]

Protect the screen on your shirt.

[Joe Budden]

Zags. Oh, my God. It's okay. It's okay. Y' all feeling good? Yes, sir. Feeling great, man. Feeling great. Okay, great. Great. Glad to hear it.

[Ish]

California is a strange place, man.

[Joe Budden]

I'll be seeing black dudes with white women every day.

[Ish]

I'll be like, do the police know about this? Because I'm from Mississippi.

[Joe Budden]

They catch you with a white girl, that's possession with intent. They will lock your ass off. White women scare me because they raised us in a whole nother kind of way for you.

[Ish]

If you walk down the street and you see a white lady walking towards you and then she clutch her purse. Ain't that the most offensive shit ever?

[Joe Budden]

This bitch thinks she's stronger than me.

[Parks]

What the fuck? Shit.

[Ish]

You see how easy that was?

[Joe Budden]

You are a vegan, Allison.

[Ish]

You don't even eat meat. You think you stronger than a real nigga?

[Parks]

Look at the way lady.

[Joe Budden]

I never thought about that. Mic check 12. Best broadcaster. World was popping though. Look the live out there.

[Parks]

E go.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, Y me. Last part of the year. Glad we made it. Glad we could be here together. Yo, shout out to wherever you might be listening from all over the world, man. Big Jersey, anytime.

[Parks]

I'm in the building.

[Flip]

For sure.

[Joe Budden]

Whole New York City, what's going on? That's including y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Long Island. Why y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Flip]

What up, what up, what up, what up?

[Joe Budden]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies.

[Parks]

Things he can't get out. Something deep inside of him eating up the prodigy of my things for other girls. That's what you get.

[Joe Budden]

Yummy. Shout out to everybody going out tonight. Everybody that had a good December. Shout out to the kids, all the happy couples out there listening. Shout out to the miserable ones as well. You know what I mean? Some of y' all made it through the year. Turbulent year, but you made it. Love wins ego.

[Parks]

Ten years ago, on this day auction, I promise I would never, ever be friends. When my baby broke my heart whole.

[Joe Budden]

Philadelphia, Baltimore, Delaware and all that. D.C. virginia, Carolinas. Everybody in Florida. Everybody on vacation. Yes, sir. Shout out to all the fans and the subgroups out there. All the patronies. All the patronies, for sure. Shout out to y'.

[Parks]

All. Welcome to Heartbreak Hotel. So this is per. This place is public.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, real important to bring the new year in with a clean house, man. Get up, grab a broom or something. Clean that corner of the bathroom. Out behind the toilet, too. Don't be. Don't be lazy.

[Parks]

Deep clean.

[Joe Budden]

I need 40 enough vibes when I'm out tonight. 40 enough vibes when I'm out.

[Parks]

Darling, let me call you. I want you in my eyes and now your fears.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to the parents out there. Shout out to my parents.

[Parks]

Love can make.

[Joe Budden]

Put some shoes on. You can dance in tonight. Play. God damn it. The fuck is going on in here? The is going on in here, man. Two ball dropping. Hey, when I'm. When I'm off, it's gonna be on. Shout out to all the DJs out there. All the musicians out there. All the nine to fivers, entrepreneurs out there.

[Parks]

Yes, sir. Let me show you. Let me show you.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody out there with a vision board and shit. Shout out to y'. All. Shout out to y'. All.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, everybody out there with big plans for 2026, making life changes and shit. Shout out to everybody in the gym. Gym bros. Hey.

[Flip]

Flip'S a gym bro.

[Joe Budden]

Flip is a gym bro. Hey, everybody in here is a gym bro. Everybody's a gym bro. I love it.

[Flip]

I love to see it. I love to see it.

[Parks]

Not the flam. Please let me show you. Let me show you.

[Ish]

My friend.

[Parks]

Let me show you. Come on, let's show you the way to go.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I promise. I promise. I'm done, man. This is my vibe for the new year 2026. I mean, when you play your mike, Jack, Let me hear a little bit Jackson 5 in there, too, man. Let me hear some of that old shit. Oh, man, 25 was good to me. If 25 was good to you, make some noise out there. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Hey, single ladies. Single ladies. 26 is your year. It's your year to find love. Let's go.

[Parks]

Been crazy. That's the only.

[Joe Budden]

All right, man. Mic check 12. Mic check 12. Keep this applause going for the best broadcast on earth. Keep this applause going while I get these drops out the way. And Queens Flip is in the building. Queens, get the Money. Mic check 12. 12. Mic check 12 12. What episode is this?

[Flip]

890.

[Joe Budden]

Welcome to episode 890 of Them Things. Numbers on the board, look up if you're confused about the score. Brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize. Fixed Prize. Pigs, gang.

[Ish]

Yeah, well, we ain't got no 2026 up here, man. Man, the balloons, nothing. Yo, what's up in work mode?

[Joe Budden]

Freeze.

[Ish]

We did that for the last how.

[Joe Budden]

Many years in work mode.

[Ish]

You ran it up and just forgot to celebrate the new year.

[Joe Budden]

Now it ain't done being ran up, and it ain't up. If you think it's up, that's cause you down. It's nowhere near. It's nowhere near where it's supposed to be. I'm focused. You know what I mean? I'm determined, I'm patient, I'm disciplined. I got a lot going on as I'm home in a room. Aligning stars takes a lot of energy. I be tired. I get headaches. Taking medicine, my blood pressure. It's a lot. Shout out to those of us that made it in good health. Everybody did not. Chef's kiss to y'. All. Shout out to the people that we lost this year. Lot of legends. Lot of legends. Shout out to those of you that may be going through loss, dealing with loss toward the end of the year, lost a family member or somebody really close to you. We extend our hearts here, here from the JBP right to you. And hopefully it hits you and your loved ones in your home. That's very important to me. At the end of the year, I'm here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the vibes.

[Ish]

Queens get the money.

[Joe Budden]

Queens, Flip is in the building.

[Parks]

I'm in the building.

[Joe Budden]

Our good brother Mark is not here. He's speaking in Saudi Arabia or somewhere. I don't know where he is.

[Flip]

Not there.

[Joe Budden]

No, not there specifically.

[Flip]

Not there, definitely.

[Joe Budden]

If he went there, I'd play it so hard to say goodbye to yesterday. He wouldn't. He wouldn't they would. They heard him.

[Ish]

No, he didn't go there.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. Y' all know who's sitting right there. Man, this Ish. Y' all know I'm 30 years, and.

[Ish]

In case you don't know, his name is on this.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Hey, hey. If you ain't know about a face, if you ain't know about a name or know about a face, it's right across the chest. You can read, can't you? You're not illiterate, are you? Come on. If you didn't know about it, come on. Your favorite landlord's favorite landlord. Mr. Thousand doors and up. Mr. Stop playing with him. Mr. Fucking Dr. Bryant. Oh, shit, man. Mr. Cayenne Bryant. Him, Our good brother Ish is in the building. Huh? Next to him, that's your rapper Brain. Yo, next to him, mud face McGruff.

[Parks]

What the.

[Joe Budden]

Is the Walrus next to him? We got. Nah, stop playing with him, man. Y' all know what time it is. Mr. Taker further himself, the freeziest of them all. Big ices in the building, Big parks. Elmira's finest is in the building.

[Flip]

What's poppin? What's poppin?

[Joe Budden]

Poe is here, Corey's here. Erickson is here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are out there. Couldn't have done it. Couldn't have made it this far without y', all, man. Thank you for your love, for your support, your engagement. Thank you for your criticism. Thank you to the hate listeners. Hey, it's still a listen, SoundCloud. Don't say when you're hating just a number. So shout, shout out to you a.

[Flip]

Lot of numbers on them number boards, too.

[Joe Budden]

Numbers on the boards. Numbers on the boards. At the end of the year, I'mma do it, yo, even when it's a down year, I'm going do it for you. Not saying that this. This wasn't that, but I'm just saying when a down year happens, I'm still going to put them up. I'm posting them. But right now it's just ascension. Like Maxwell, y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

That's all it is. You heard that Maxwell song? It's that.

[Parks]

That.

[Joe Budden]

Don't think it's not. What? What? Wake it up in here. It's the last part.

[Parks]

I'm listening to you now.

[Ish]

He ready. He ready to go.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

No, I'm talking about you said his rapper Brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

I can tell you, man.

[Ish]

I can tell.

[Joe Budden]

I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good.

[Parks]

Going higher. I'm with you, man, man, we. You know where we at with it?

[Joe Budden]

We're blessed very indeed.

[Parks]

But it's still more. There's still more mountains to climb.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, that. That is true.

[Parks]

Still more terrains than conquer. I'm with you, bro. Don't like when I'm paying attention because I'm feeling what you're saying. Champ. You got little muscles, man.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, I know we joke around a lot throughout the year. I know we pocket watch a lot. But we are truly blessed.

[Ish]

Facts.

[Joe Budden]

The. The Lord, our good power up above has been kind to us all this year. Life can change in a heartbeat, as I'm sure we'll talk about during our Anthony Joshua segment. My heart goes out to that brother. Yeah. I cannot even. I cannot imagine. I cannot imagine what he's feeling or going through right now. Really sad. That was really, really, really sad news. But we'll get to that later. We'll get to rap first.

[Flip]

Yeah. How's everybody's holiday before we get there?

[Ish]

Oh, man, mine was amazing. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What did you do?

[Ish]

Yeah, I didn't do anything.

[Joe Budden]

What did you get?

[Ish]

Oh, man, my was amazing. I know y' all gonna start y', all, but this was the first time since my daughter was one that she woke up with me on Christmas. So that's why it was amazing already. I know, I know. Get your off. Get your off. I. I invite the jokes.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. I love it.

[Ish]

I know y' all don't care.

[Flip]

I give a. I think it's amazing.

[Parks]

That be so climactic.

[Ish]

So I love it.

[Parks]

I played around with you.

[Ish]

I know. Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

But my problem is. Cuz. Don't look at me. Why you don't say something to him?

[Ish]

About what?

[Joe Budden]

About this.

[Ish]

About what? Say something to me. Tell me.

[Parks]

That's how the brother feels. Man.

[Ish]

This was one of the best.

[Flip]

Warm, tearful cry.

[Joe Budden]

No, I don't.

[Ish]

No, I don't. I don't want nothing for y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Ish]

You asked how was our holiday. Mine was amazing. Y' all asked me why. I told you why. It ain't about the gifts. It wasn't about none of that shit. That. That was why my was so amazing. Now everybody else can say how theirs was. I was. I relaxed like I've been running on a million for the last couple months. I just was chilling.

[Flip]

Yeah, same.

[Ish]

So I ain't do.

[Flip]

I was upstate with the family friends.

[Ish]

It took me mad long to shovel snow. The whole. Like, I wasn't doing nothing was.

[Parks]

Was the Christmas good?

[Ish]

Yeah. Relaxation, bro. Like, that is a thing when you've been running a mouth a thousand miles a minute minute just sitting at home without a care, doing nothing. Watching my daughter open up all the gifts and shit. On Christmas, my girl family celebrate the day before. So we did that. Did he did at your house or.

[Joe Budden]

You went there and then?

[Ish]

No, there on the day before my girl mother crib and then my house on the actual Christmas day. Nice, nice. It's nuts though. Cause we ain't really need shit.

[Joe Budden]

Right? You know what I'm saying?

[Ish]

Even my daughter didn't need nothing. It's just excess, you know what I'm saying? So I try to kind of scale back a little bit because I know everybody was gonna buy her mad and she already got mad. She only got spaces for the that she already got. So I tried to kind of scale back and just bought mad clothes that'll last, damn it throughout the year.

[Joe Budden]

Right.

[Ish]

So that's all I did for them.

[Flip]

I'm glad. My family is pretty much packed except for the kids, obviously we get them. But the grown ups, we know. Yeah, well, yeah, we're eating good, we're having some drinks, we're chilling. Went look through the old family photo albums and all that. Got all, you know, I mean, young people, emotionals. Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

I think what's more important for me this year was just spending family time, as you said.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Cause like what can you do for your older children, right? Like, they know you can still surprise them, which, you know, they were surprised and they were appreciative of the gift. But I think that having us all together was important, you know, JR just turned 21 this year, so he's trying to move around, but he was able to be stable. And we was all there together.

[Ish]

Everybody was all together. He bought a Jamin to Christmas.

[Parks]

Nah, he ain't. Nah, he ain't bringing y' all me to Christmas. But he did some tricks. I don't know, he had a lot of tricks up his sleeve. But having everybody there was something and then just realization, man. Like being focused when you relax. I think having that part. Well, I have pods off a couple of times, so salute to y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Parks]

But knowing, you know, everybody have it all at the same time, you just start to think and reevaluate things for sure. But that was important for me this year. Reevaluation. How am I going into 2026? Who am I moving out of my vicinity? Who am I going into it? 2026. Talking like it's crazy, man. I did the Christmas dawn, you know, at my house and I'm looking at some of these like, I will never be around some of you ever, ever again, ever.

[Ish]

You won't even have my number.

[Parks]

I'm looking at these, bro, in my head and shout out to everyone that participated. But you realize that it's levels to where I'm trying to go and levels to where they're trying to go.

[Ish]

Everybody can't go.

[Parks]

Like you can't go to say, like, I need that encouragement. I need that thrill. I need to understand it. I need the environmental awareness. I need to. I just need that determination, that. That factor, you know? I mean, and I feel like a lot of people are just comfortable where they at and comfortable with depending on others. And I no longer want to have that. I no longer want to be the person that's depended on. I want to be the person that's. That we are trying to reach a goal together.

[Ish]

And.

[Parks]

Oh, you see my vision and you trying to help me get there. So that was important for me in Christmas time. Just looking at these niggas like, man, get the fuck niggas crazy. You had the N in your crib. Yeah, I had niggas in the crib. I just tried something new. I wanted to try something new, just some new vibe. And I realized, like, it hit you.

[Flip]

It hit you.

[Ish]

I don't. What am I doing? I'd have rented the Airbnb for the Christmas at the. Yeah, I did. Nobody my.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Parks]

I mean, you know, cost effective.

[Ish]

I'm better than cost effective.

[Parks]

Try to duke the system. But Christmas was good.

[Flip]

Good.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Christmas.

[Parks]

Y' all look forward to New Year. Like, what's up, man?

[Ish]

Like, I'm not doing. I don't have no New Year before. Like, my mom. I talked to my mom this morning. She like, yo, you want me watch the kids so y' all can go out? I'm like, not really. We cool. Yeah, Like, I'm straight. I'm. I'm with that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm.

[Ish]

I don't need to go anywhere. Like, I did it. Yeah, I'm chilling. I'm chilling. We in the house. More relaxation. I might take a trip for my birthday or something, but I ain't trying to just be here.

[Joe Budden]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you better leave after your birthday.

[Flip]

My weekend.

[Ish]

You got to be here on your birthday.

[Parks]

This is what I don't like about you, bro. You old stuck in your.

[Ish]

I would get you on a no fly list.

[Parks]

Yeah, you think you doing.

[Ish]

I didn't say it was Going to.

[Joe Budden]

Be on my mind.

[Ish]

But I. I'm not beat. That really do. Like, if I can't go away for the new year, I'm straight.

[Parks]

Do you feel like your families are like this as well, where you have to spend time with the families going into the new year? Is that a rule in your household?

[Ish]

No, it was more so Christmas. Like, my whole family was like, yo, where y' all at? I'm like, we not coming. Like, normally we do. You know, my grandparents said, we do everything over there, Thanksgiving, Christmas. And this year, I was like, yo, I. I just. No, nobody.

[Parks]

I did that, too. But that kind of hurt my mom's feelings.

[Ish]

It hurt my mom's. She was tight.

[Parks]

Yeah, it hurt my mom's feelings. And I didn't realize that until I saw her the next day, how hurt she was. Because you break a tradition, but when you have your own family, you know, it becomes you're not doing it intentionally, and then it cut them out. If you feel that way, that's how you think. You're not doing it intentionally at all. It's not. You know, my mom felt the same way. She felt the way, like, yo, I ain't.

[Ish]

I ain't.

[Parks]

And see you. This is the tradition. When you have your children and your.

[Ish]

Immediate family start building your own.

[Parks]

You start building your own tradition.

[Ish]

They don't understand.

[Flip]

You should maybe tell your parents beforehand so they're not like, that's true. Make it a plague for you.

[Parks]

I agree. I agree.

[Ish]

I went the day after.

[Parks]

Me, too.

[Ish]

I went the day after I saw everybody but Day. Christmas Day. No.

[Parks]

How. How hard is it to break tradition?

[Ish]

It's hard when. When it's easier for me to break the tradition than it is for them to accept that I'm breaking the tradition.

[Parks]

Is that. Ooh.

[Ish]

Like, especially in my family, I'm Mr. Dependable. I drop everything and come running when somebody call me. And now I can't do that no more, so that becomes a thing.

[Parks]

What about you Packs?

[Flip]

I haven't really particularly broken tradition, I guess. Not really too much. I mean, outside of when you get married, you gotta start splitting the time up and like that. Like, I gotta go to her family for some holidays. My family. You know what I mean? But other than that, I don't think it's that hard. And people, they understand it. My sister did the same thing when she got married.

[Ish]

When y' all start having kids, yeah, it's gonna change a little bit. I'm sure the first couple years, y' all gonna be grandma, grandpa, And y' all gonna be doing that. But then when you start wanting to, you know what I'm saying, for your whole entire family.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And again, you.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

You host a lot.

[Flip]

I do.

[Ish]

So that'll probably. And you about. Oh, yeah. And you about to buy one of them, you know, I mean, 8,000, 8,000 square foot things, you know what I'm saying? So it'll probably be Elmyra comes to, maybe. So park maybe. Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

Think about that.

[Flip]

It is harder for them to come down here than it is for me to go up there, though. Cuz, like, the change of pace of life down here is much different than it is. Like, I can slow down. Dates can't speed up.

[Ish]

Yeah. You know, that's why you come into Jersey and then you going to get the big Parkville mansion.

[Flip]

Maybe.

[Parks]

So we know in 1953, you broke tradition, but how. How hard was it for you to do that? You old as dust.

[Ish]

My family's new, you know what I'm saying? So it's me, my girl, my one daughter lives with me. My other daughter don't. So you know what I'm saying? I'm setting the stage for that. Like the cutting down of the tree and all of that stuff. That's a thing that I'm trying to do every single year with my family. You get what I'm saying? So I'm making traditions. I'm new here. I'm new here. I'm new here, man.

[Parks]

I told my mother, man, man, traditions. I looked at my mother with a stone face, like. She said, you mad at me? I said, are you crazy? I got a family. What are you talking about? But I had. I tried to understand, but in my head, I'm like, man, traditions, commission. When you were younger, you went off and got married and got married to my dad. You did what you had to do. You know what I mean? What's the easiest way to get over that?

[Joe Budden]

So.

[Parks]

So I think it's a hard pill, I agree with Parks, for your parents and your family to swallow when you try to go away from what they're used to. Tradition.

[Ish]

They'll get it, though. They be all right. But if they don't, they don't. Honestly, I know that sounds selfish, but again, sometimes you gotta be more selfish in your life.

[Parks]

I don't want them to make me feel bad about it, though. And I feel like I try to use reverse psychology. If you make me feel bad, that means you're not trying to help Me grow. If you try to think about it, you're a manipulator. You're a manipulator. If my mom tried to make me feel bad by focusing on my immediate family in my house and my tradition, I'm not. You trying to make me feel bad, and that means I'm gonna have to hit her with that, even though she get out of it all the time. You don't want me to grow. You don't want me to love. You don't want me to be a faithful husband. You don't want me to be there, be a father to the children. You want me to come all the way down to Brooklyn and sit with y'? All. And I didn't say, but sit with y' all and just, nah, I'm good.

[Ish]

Nah. Cause she gonna say, bring the family down here.

[Parks]

That's what I'm saying. Don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

What are y' all talking about?

[Flip]

Breaking tradition.

[Parks]

Breaking tradition. We talking about that, you know, stuff.

[Ish]

That people typically do with their family around Christmas time when you got your own family, you trying to start veering off a little bit to start setting tradition for you and your family versus what you used to do with your.

[Joe Budden]

Mother and your father. Got it.

[Ish]

Got it. You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

And I love my mom to death. I mean, I just. But she felt away. It was the first time that I just. I'm like, are you cr. In my head, I'm like, all right, okay. Sat there for a while by the.

[Joe Budden]

Side of the bed.

[Parks]

Just listen. But in my head, I'm like, I'm doing this.

[Ish]

How was your Christmas, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

Peaceful, quiet.

[Parks]

Nice.

[Joe Budden]

Got a lot of rest.

[Ish]

I saw y' all at the game.

[Parks]

Yeah, we saw you.

[Joe Budden]

Very, very. Oh, yeah, I went to the game.

[Ish]

Very dope.

[Joe Budden]

I went to the game on. On Christmas. It was a really amazing game. Really, really, really, really good game.

[Ish]

I ain't watched the game. I saw the pictures. I was just, like, knowing I got high a little more. I'm like, damn. I remember, win. And to see him and Trey at the game. This is fire.

[Joe Budden]

How did mean. I think he had a great time. Time. He was vlogging the whole vlogger now.

[Flip]

Like, all right, Father Lux, I'm not playing with you.

[Joe Budden]

Christmas.

[Parks]

Apparently, he's a vlogger.

[Joe Budden]

No, for real. So everything we was doing, everybody that was saying, what's up? And, like, he taking, like, some aerial shot, like, with it, but with his arm. He don't have a cool stick or nothing, so everybody did. Tracy Morgan, everybody. Donovan Mitchell.

[Flip]

Vlogging.

[Ish]

We old, Joe. Yes, we old. You ain't hit him with embarrassing me, boy. Put your phone down.

[Joe Budden]

What's this. What's this thing you keep doing with your arm up in the air? Vlogging. All right, we had a good. We had a good time. We had a good time, though.

[Parks]

What did you get like for Christmas, Joe?

[Joe Budden]

Mad that I need task rabbit to come put together. That's the other thing I realized about. About myself. I can't put together no toys. No kids toys, no adult toys.

[Ish]

I'm about to say toys.

[Joe Budden]

No. No furniture, nothing. Yeah, no. As soon as my girl get over this little cold, she got. Chop chop.

[Flip]

She got work to do.

[Joe Budden]

Chop chop. Get to it.

[Parks]

Let's put these toys together.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So he got a bunch of stuff. Nice. And what did I do? I went to my dad's. All the family was over there. Saw Everybody for about 90. I gave him 90. I was in bed by about 5:45pm.

[Ish]

How do you do that, my nigga?

[Joe Budden]

What? Go to bed about 5:45.

[Ish]

My body won't even.

[Flip]

I'm starting.

[Ish]

I gotta take something for that to happen.

[Parks]

Melatonin.

[Flip]

That ain't gonna work.

[Ish]

Something. Ain't no way I'm just gonna lay down. Like you be having your clothes off in the bed or you just lay on the bed and fall asleep like a nigga.

[Parks]

Nap.

[Joe Budden]

No. Naked.

[Ish]

All right, Winnie the Pooh.

[Joe Budden]

I'm in bed. No, not Winnie the Poo.

[Ish]

You ain't learn. You do that in the daytime, you.

[Parks]

Gonna get st. You go hur on Christmas.

[Joe Budden]

Head upstair.

[Parks]

He going be.

[Joe Budden]

This is the worst place to have a health condition. Them going, ho, ho, ho, your ass. There you go. That's another reason I'm running around here with all this gratitude. I keep saying last December was very different. Got through a year. No. No sleepwalking.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No nothing.

[Flip]

Let's do it again.

[Parks]

Run it back.

[Flip]

Let's run that one back.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah. But Christmas. Christmas was good. School. It was a lot more peaceful than Thanksgiving was. On Thanksgiving, I'm knocking both all. I'm getting all of that food. And that's Thanksgiving. Is Christmas Thanksgiving for me, like on Christmas, I want to be in bed. I want to be alone. I want to. Yeah, it's cool.

[Flip]

Not bad.

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. But it was. It was good. I had a good time.

[Ish]

I was straight nice.

[Joe Budden]

And then them was off the next day.

[Flip]

That was great.

[Joe Budden]

That's what did.

[Flip]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Joe Budden]

That was Christmas being off for that part. Come on, y' all was off. We got thoughts, takes, and opinions. I don't know if they hot takes or cold takes, but where we start, we starting with let's rap about it.

[Ish]

Oh, we have to start.

[Joe Budden]

Let's rap about it. May know Jim Jones, Dave east, and fab freestyled over 50 cent beats. I think they put this out on Christmas.

[Flip]

I believe so.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. I'm losing track of time, but I think they put it out on Christmas. Four freestyles, four beats. They all were hard. This is them replying to. Well, I'm saying this is them replying to.

[Ish]

No, this is them replying.

[Joe Budden]

This is them replying to 50, saying that these dudes are squatters and getting that owner dude on the phone to try to buy half of the building that they record in and half of the rights to the pod. And I thought this was great.

[Ish]

I did, too. Me, too.

[Joe Budden]

In spite of what you may have thought of the actual freestyles, which we'll talk about in a second.

[Parks]

Second.

[Joe Budden]

The let's Rap about it podcast. Rapping about it.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Just made sense right there.

[Ish]

Thousand percent right there.

[Joe Budden]

It just.

[Ish]

That was it. Yep, that was it.

[Joe Budden]

And that's probably the only way you could really get 50. Yeah, you don't want to just ignore IG post them. You can't meme them, pot them, court them. But rap.

[Ish]

Got a rap.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but rap. What did you guys think? You want to play it first? You want to talk first? Let's play it.

[Flip]

Let's play.

[Parks]

You want to go?

[Flip]

Just let the whole thing rip or we'll stop.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, we'll stop in between play Fab last.

[Flip]

Got you. Well, I think he's last anyway.

[Parks]

Let's start with Maynard.

[Ish]

Yeah, as soon as I heard this, I said, okay.

[Parks]

Yeah, let's rap about it. Yeah, yeah, look, hey.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

Real niggas outnumbered 99:1 I've been a savage way before I turned 21. They said that I would probably die before I'm 21. These young boys getting life before they 21.

[Joe Budden]

Let's rap about it. Smack a nigga, laugh about it.

[Ish]

It's either in you, not on you Your lames never get my flowers in.

[Joe Budden]

This lifetime probably have to die before.

[Ish]

I get my right shine.

[Parks]

Cause star shine when it's nighttime these Internet throwing shots pick the right time.

[Joe Budden]

I got time today A hustler gon find a way I don't back down.

[Ish]

It'S not inside my DNA Pop pops.

[Joe Budden]

Died early, had to grind early Big.

[Ish]

Hammers Way before I had size on me. Talking old beef.

[Joe Budden]

Taking back the guy Tony.

[Ish]

That's what poor actresses lay their eyes on me.

[Parks]

Yeah, let's talk money and love.

[Ish]

But OG said you can't trade money for love. All of us gang, gang. But only one of us blood and one crib don't trip.

[Joe Budden]

They ain't fucking with us. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, mano. All right.

[Ish]

Go ahead and set it off.

[Flip]

Yeah, he said it off. I didn't like the little stutter edits, but that's just a nitpick.

[Joe Budden]

The what?

[Flip]

Like the stutter edits. Like that. Pop, pop, like. I don't want to hear that anymore.

[Joe Budden]

Especially on one of these.

[Ish]

Yeah, you could just go, I like the beat choice.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Be choice.

[Ish]

And he ripped it like.

[Flip]

I just. That's my only critique. And it's.

[Joe Budden]

It's just mayo. Great job. Yeah, great job. Great beat selection. You did what you had to do. Sounded awesome. Kudos. What's next? Let's go. Another gravy. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. It's my only beef. That's my only beef. Let me hear about all of this. Play. Play it again. Duck a smoke.

[Parks]

I ain't got a neck.

[Ish]

How I'm ducking smoking. I ain't got a neck.

[Joe Budden]

Stop it, stop it.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ish]

Okay, It's.

[Joe Budden]

I can't hear that. Some things for me is cool on the ad lib track. Some things are gonna be funny. Where my neck at? Where my neck at? On the ad lib of the opening bar. And I know what you coming to do. I know what you're coming to do. And I think Jim is like one of the ad lib kids. Yeah, Absolutely.

[Ish]

Put a whole bar in the ad lib.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Where my neck at is hilarious, but okay, let's go play the tape.

[Ish]

I've been around real killers. You are not a threat.

[Joe Budden]

Love to be choice again left the.

[Ish]

Game but I still got connected. J boys carry guns that can stop a jack flew birds through the group but I still got the set them about the ass we will whip your.

[Flip]

Head start again saying the streets like.

[Ish]

Them shits is dead in the streets that's moving bricks of bread.

[Joe Budden]

Turn up Jim, let's go. Then.

[Ish]

It'S nothing but a seven. When I was young, I was doing quarter breaks, accidents on the gram. We was taking rich water flicks pineapples on the hand three and a quarter Whips nasty. That's when Duke had to be, man. I had the algae. I did be from boxing massage dish. So I had to match squatting in the building. I'm squatting on some millions. This is watching my moves. I cut them in their. Tell me what you want Tell me, tell me what you need Tell me what it is Tell me what you.

[Joe Budden]

Tell me what it be all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Listen, I think that this was such. They got the most. What a great. What a great way to get equity out of a 1624 or 32. Like, it's four of y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

It's nothing for you to go. And a quick 24 over beat directed at one person. And y' all gonna do the same as cheap chico. It's a chico absolutely fire. I love this. Love it.

[Ish]

I think it was genius, too.

[Joe Budden]

And I'm a bigger gym fan than probably most of y' all out there listening. And I'm a New Yorker, so I think that Mayo and Jim's beat selection was very on brand for sure. And they both did what I expected them to do, which is get in the verse with a whole bunch of. I got a bunch of niggas that are killed.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I wasn't listening to them. Those two specifically for the lyrical. Yeah, I wasn't. I'm looking for threats, and it's like violence.

[Ish]

It's like battle rap. Like, for them. I want to hear the gun bars and the.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

I don't think east gave him a lot of violence. Plus, I liked what he did so.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I put east for what he did. On the more lyrical side of it.

[Flip]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he.

[Ish]

I put.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead. Like what he did. Like what he did. Give him a little piece. Give him a little piece.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

You need to shape up for this. Freeze. No, you don't. You inside mute up with Easters on.

[Ish]

This. Like a bagel with cream cheese.

[Joe Budden]

Look.

[Ish]

You've seen them on tv. I really seen Phoenix. Like, Isaiah ain't no dream team.

[Parks]

Dreams think of Chip Banks.

[Ish]

American cream.

[Joe Budden]

See? Love his beat selection, too.

[Ish]

Don't know about what a team mean at all. Just trying to get away from 12. Like a preteen.

[Joe Budden]

That's the cops.

[Parks]

Ring scene.

[Ish]

Nah, this all like a Nino and G thing. Expensive dinner type knowing they eat wings 600 business and Beamers. That was a street dream. Lately I'm.

[Parks]

Street team.

[Ish]

Always a FTD thing.

[Joe Budden]

On the dirt.

[Ish]

Look, I really been in King Punk with Crazy Yo Shady low nip, repeat in my Mercedes, Low street.

[Joe Budden]

Reese Mac.

[Ish]

It out I'm no limit. I'm actually.

[Joe Budden]

Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off, turn it off.

[Flip]

He did what he had to do.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely loved it.

[Ish]

My only takeaway is, again, if we all attacking this person.

[Parks]

Street.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no, no. What I think. No, no. If we. We. We using this person's beats and we addressing this person, we attacking this person, it feel like he didn't stick to the assignment. That's the only. That's my only compl point that a East, though. I understand that. I'm just that if we nitpicking. That's my only nitpick about that is, yo, this is what we doing.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Ish]

We responding to this cat different ways. Whatever.

[Joe Budden]

You didn't do you feel like he.

[Parks]

He didn't put anything that was directed towards.

[Flip]

It wasn't no direction.

[Joe Budden]

It was.

[Ish]

It was a safe. It was a safe.

[Flip]

But he was rapping. Let's rap about it.

[Ish]

He was rapping.

[Flip]

That's what I like to hear.

[Ish]

Feather ruffling verse.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

Which changes the verse. Because it doesn't change ruffling feathers to you.

[Ish]

It doesn't change the verse. I'm just saying, if this is what we doing on this song, all four of us.

[Flip]

I'm not mad at that tape.

[Ish]

If we come in here and say, yo, we all shooting at somebody. And you shoot, you shoot, you shoot. And then when I go, I'm just talking very generic.

[Joe Budden]

It looks like that's how you shoot then.

[Ish]

Or that's not. Or you not shooting.

[Joe Budden]

I can't expect everybody to shoot the same or take the same shots. He participated.

[Ish]

Now, I'm not mad at the verse. It's still dope. Yeah, it's still a great verse.

[Parks]

He can rap to, like, dissect it and say, yo. Well, he ain't really say nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like, he still participated in just being there overall.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm shooting at the whole show.

[Joe Budden]

You said when fifth respond. He said.

[Parks]

He responded.

[Ish]

We'll get to that. That's not what he said. We'll get to that. Come on.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see him say that.

[Ish]

That's not what he said.

[Parks]

All right, That's.

[Ish]

That's not what he said.

[Parks]

I'm talking about it made event tough.

[Joe Budden]

Well, listen, the guy that stole the show made event tough.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Fab.

[Ish]

And this is a fat beat.

[Joe Budden]

Arms. Stop, stop, stop, stop, Stop this. Stop this. Stop this already. Already stopped this.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Ish]

Yep. I think he was waiting for this.

[Parks]

He went crazy.

[Ish]

He was just waiting for somebody to get it. Like, I'm going, let y' all know who I am.

[Flip]

It's about time for me. I miss Fab rapping.

[Ish]

He has been in the cut like stitches. My he. He was waiting for something to pop out.

[Joe Budden]

Like stitches.

[Ish]

I don't with snitches.

[Joe Budden]

You go, yo, just want to rap about it.

[Ish]

I don't. I just want to rap and get to these. I think he just been waiting cuz his name don't be getting bought up or no, his name be getting played with. Yeah, that's what it is. His name gets played with.

[Parks]

He bodied it.

[Joe Budden]

By who?

[Ish]

By these Internet kids who don't know no better.

[Joe Budden]

See enough of yo in 26. That's over with too.

[Ish]

No, it's not. It's not, Joe.

[Joe Budden]

There's a big. That's not even kids.

[Ish]

It's not kids kids. It's Internet adults too. Yeah, it is.

[Joe Budden]

I don't see Internet adults play with fabs now.

[Flip]

They do a little bit.

[Ish]

They play with his name a lot. He don't. It ain't a little bit.

[Parks]

He only body R B features.

[Ish]

He don't get a lot of that. They say when Fab name come up, they start going to the worst bars he ever said. They start pointing out his dressing and all this other type of. That has nothing to do with the raps because they're not familiar with the raps. And to be fair, Fab hasn't been.

[Flip]

Rapping in a long.

[Ish]

Like, if he would put out more.

[Flip]

Music, people wouldn't play with his name in that every.

[Ish]

Every six to eight weeks, I'm like, yo, I wish Fab still rap. I just would randomly say that. Yeah. Like he's one of the nicest there is.

[Joe Budden]

He is.

[Ish]

That's true. And a lot of y' all don't know. Y' all think it's some New York shit or whatever.

[Joe Budden]

Whatever.

[Ish]

Y' all know. I don't glaze New York rappers. Fab is nicer than a lot of you favorite rappers.

[Joe Budden]

They regionalized Fab.

[Parks]

They did.

[Joe Budden]

That's what is. That's what I've seen happen. Maybe not so much playing with with his name, but they regionalized him and marginalized and his success level says that he belongs in a separate conversation. He don't belong in the hottest New York rapper conversation. He has hits.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Last part of the year. You almost made me say bonafide. I won't.

[Parks]

But he got him you do.

[Ish]

See, that's the problem. To me, fuck the hits. That nigga's lyrical ability is better than 99.5.

[Joe Budden]

But all of that lyrical miracle. You'll be regional your whole life being lyrical.

[Ish]

But he not lyrical miracle. Miracle. He's not lyrical miracle.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not talking what take you out of regional conversations.

[Ish]

See, I think it's a combination of things. I think it's the hits, and I think it's. Fab has been on Records with E40, West coast, down south, wherever. You name them. Fab, jump on a record with them and do what he does does. He ain't regionalized. It's just that now because he from New York, he ain't as active no more. So they. They put him back in the New York box.

[Joe Budden]

That's regionalized.

[Ish]

I'm. I'm saying this it. No, what my point is. It's not because of the lack of hits. It's not because of lack of hits.

[Flip]

Let's play this verse.

[Ish]

Yeah, Come on.

[Joe Budden]

Well, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

Turn it on.

[Joe Budden]

Because I meant to highlight them. The other three shouldn't have let him get this beat.

[Ish]

Why not?

[Joe Budden]

Well, of course it's a great thing that he got to beat it, so.

[Ish]

And no one. That's a fab beat.

[Joe Budden]

Fab being the only one to get the uptempo joint. Like, while they all was on some vibe. Groovy slower pace here. Everything I'm saying, they let the killer get the killer beat. And maybe by design, you're supposed to.

[Ish]

Jim Mayo and East are more of your or grittier street rap. You need that gritty beat. That's why I like the beat.

[Joe Budden]

Sound like. This sound like some Desert Storm. Yeah, this sound like fab sport, like.

[Ish]

You was coming next.

[Joe Budden]

This sound like.

[Parks]

Yeah, this is the A team at.

[Joe Budden]

This is a fastball right up, right there, right up the plate. For somebody whose entire career is this from Mark. He's bred on this from the 90s for the nigga that's the fucking Internet, kid. Y' all let Barry Bonds or somebody of that ilk get a fastball. Yeah, play it.

[Flip]

There we go.

[Parks]

Top shot of who drop dollars and pop collars. You ain't talking about top dollar. Do not holla. Can't move us but nah, we not squatters. They mad cause we fly and cannot swat us get it toe to head from bottom to top sp. Them window shoppers ain't really gonna cop nada My dog told me give them the word and shots follow Hollywood let him off the leash like Nino you know I got power, you're shorty got hot showers catch a trying to leave like Tasha shot lala the not Mala and you not Allah y' all both meet the creator, his first name not Tyler the blink like a magic stick your top water roof going drain snoop in a drop collar screaming let me ride them young ass got diabolic they will leave your whip leaning like they pop hydraulics none of my ops valid they singing the cops palace none of them want beef they ordered a chance chop salad how the you think Got.

[Joe Budden]

Brolic but not solid?

[Ish]

Yeah, come on.

[Joe Budden]

How the got brolic but not not solid? And they trying to pull cards like we ain't got wallets.

[Ish]

Goodness gracious.

[Joe Budden]

I knew that something was going on after the first two bars in my. In my rapper brain. I was like, all right, now they let him continue.

[Parks]

That flow.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, they let him. If he just leave after four bars, it's cool. But if. If this boy here continues. Mayo and Jim and Davies was writing in a circle, and Fab was over there by the vending machine, bent over the pink. The. The pinball machine, just writing down.

[Parks]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

My God, play it again. Play it again.

[Parks]

I'm a top shot who drop dollars and pop dollars. You ain't talking about top dollar.

[Joe Budden]

Can't move us.

[Parks]

But now we not squad us, we fly. Cannot swat us from bottom to top rock.

[Joe Budden]

I let him off the leash like.

[Parks]

Nino's right wall, you know I got power. Your shorty got hot showers.

[Joe Budden]

Then you give him some puns to. And some TV shows. The that be juggling. You give them all that to play with. Pause.

[Ish]

Power, magic stick, window shopper, all.

[Joe Budden]

Of them Fab got a lot more direct than the rest of them. Way, yes.

[Ish]

Way more.

[Joe Budden]

Some people thought that it was indirect. I didn't. No, no, no, no.

[Ish]

This is very direct. People ain't catch the entendres and like that. That he was saying maybe.

[Flip]

Yeah. I don't know how you don't.

[Ish]

They got showered and all that. Ain't understand what that.

[Joe Budden]

Power.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's disgusting. Yeah.

[Flip]

Who f. Battled before?

[Ish]

Mace. Mace.

[Flip]

I like this fab. I like battle Fab.

[Parks]

I know records that he try to outdo each other.

[Joe Budden]

This boy sound like ghetto fab.

[Ish]

Sound like 2000 fab 21F. I'm just thinking the people that he 2001F bad like you got. Leave that over there.

[Joe Budden]

I say all the time, let that hibernate over there. Leave that. Oh, yeah, you got it, Drake.

[Ish]

He got it.

[Joe Budden]

Drake.

[Ish]

J He got it.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say Ray J. But don't say that. You say what the is up? You know what we talking about.

[Ish]

I'm just going down on people that he shot at. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

He did get that Drake.

[Ish]

He did.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if a lot of people know about.

[Flip]

I don't remember that one either.

[Parks]

Lord knows after throwing in the bag remix.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'd have got at him too for that. Drake should have went to jail. That was a bad one. I might.

[Ish]

He got a Kendrick.

[Joe Budden]

He tore that up. He tore that up. Fab.

[Flip]

Did that ever come out?

[Ish]

He used some of it in on soul tape too. He got it Kendrick though, on the. I think it was the get back.

[Joe Budden]

Got it.

[Ish]

I like.

[Joe Budden]

I like that all these podcasters rap.

[Parks]

I know.

[Joe Budden]

Hit, hit. Yo, yo, don't do that. Hey, listen, listen, listen, Ro.

[Ish]

I'm trying.

[Joe Budden]

I'm the last person that should be able to say that. But I'm so glad that they all rap it. It's inspiring to me. I like when Mace did it. I love when Cam does it.

[Ish]

I love when Cam do it.

[Joe Budden]

Nori's still putting out. He ain't gonna stop. And I still play Nori old greatest hit. So it don't matter. Nori music will never leave my. Never, never. It'll never happen. I like when these guys get to doing it.

[Ish]

Bleak. Cuz that album he put out this.

[Flip]

That was a dope album.

[Ish]

That album was hard.

[Joe Budden]

I still didn't hear but I want to get.

[Ish]

That was a really good album.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. I like the trend of podcasters rapping or rappers pod. I don't know.

[Ish]

Whatever.

[Flip]

If you can rap.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Flip]

And you podcast, you should still rap.

[Joe Budden]

You should rap. If you can rap and are on a podcast, don't let podcast mics be the only things. That's good. But I'm talking to them and Flip. We're not talking to me but they.

[Ish]

Going to talk to you.

[Joe Budden]

But I'm not saying they was playing.

[Ish]

With your name out there.

[Parks]

To who?

[Joe Budden]

Huh?

[Ish]

Fans.

[Parks]

His name fans. What they say popping up.

[Ish]

Yeah. And. And cuz again people was trying to educate like yo Y. Playing with Joe name like Joe wasn't nice with a.

[Joe Budden]

Well, cuz I didn't hear nothing that they said. What happened?

[Parks]

Cause you up there stupid and somebody in the sky.

[Ish]

No, when. When Fab put the verse out and then people started saying, oh, like you said, yo, this old Desert Storm shit. Your name pop. Pop up.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, why my name popped up?

[Ish]

That's a storm.

[Joe Budden]

Just.

[Ish]

Just in terms of rappers.

[Joe Budden]

All right?

[Ish]

And then it was Joe like that. Why you. Why you putting Joe with name in this? Joe not nice like these. Joe can't hang with none of them. And then fans started to.

[Joe Budden]

All right, you almost. You almost got me wound up. No, I want try w something that's too stupid. Then I'm back on the. All right. Joe can't rhyme with these.

[Ish]

I saw shout out to Duff. Duff put your, your, your no church in the wild freestyle. Like, he put the clip up and the said, yo, is this AI?

[Joe Budden]

Was he.

[Ish]

He like, he. Yo, is this AI? I swear to God. Was this AI? And I'm like, no, yo, that's funny. He tagged me. Yo, is this AI? No, Joe actually could rap.

[Joe Budden]

You got to appreciate stuff like that. Yeah, done.

[Ish]

It's a compliment.

[Joe Budden]

Done. Are the days where I'm trying to uphold hold my skill sets. Yeah, I'm not. If you were there for it, awesome. If you think I was whack, hey, maybe I was.

[Ish]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[Joe Budden]

It's cool.

[Ish]

They almost got me when with that. Is this AI? I started to go on a little. Hey, let me let you know something. But then it look like, oh, that's your man. So you and his dick. No, the could rap. And I'm gonna give you some records that'll have you say, oh, I didn't know.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, listen, my. Listen. My brain. My brain is my brain. I just had a brain mri. They said I'm intelligent. My brain is my brain. So when I'm hearing what these guys are doing, it can't help but come up with some bars. I'm telling you, leave me where I am. I stumbled into a way to have dope billionaire bars. That was the one thing holding me back. Some romance. But I can't. I can't. Hey, hey, fab. Got the.

[Parks]

Ilia.

[Ish]

I got the illy over here. I got the illy.

[Joe Budden]

I'm starting to feel like old time. I felt like I was coming right in next, God damn it. But nah, it is inspiring. 1. One of these days. One of these days I got a goal that I'm trying to hit first. I've said it a million times in this broadcast, and I'm too close to it.

[Ish]

It do sound like you and Paul would have been right up right behind them. Right there. Right there.

[Joe Budden]

It does. Yo. And when I come out, I'm telling you now, don't say I didn't tell you. Everybody getting shot. It's true. Ish.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It's True. That's the only place it can happen.

[Ish]

It's 1,000.

[Joe Budden]

That's the only place and only time in the universe that you could just blanket everybody.

[Ish]

It's gonna be so subtle that ain't nobody gonna know.

[Joe Budden]

They'll figure it out later.

[Ish]

They're gonna be, oh, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, every single one of y' all are getting shot at. When I rap. That's a fact. And then I' ma never rap again. Then I'm gonna go right back to another 10 years in retirement. Man, these guys are inspiring.

[Ish]

Yeah, this was amazing.

[Joe Budden]

What a way to cap off the year that the elder statesmen have had in music. Yeah, way to be the example. Way to lay the fucking groundwork for what this is supposed to look like on the street culture side, on the fashion side, on the media entertainment side. This is what it's supposed to feel like out here. Energy, energy, energy.

[Ish]

And yo, I say it all the time, but it feel good when you see people, like leaving the Internet shit to the Internet and just rapping about it.

[Flip]

That's it.

[Ish]

Like, I don't gotta get up here. Like, of course with Spiffy, you can't out me him. Yeah, but some other would have tried. For sure. They would have tried not. Not like them. But that's why. That's why this felt good. I don't care how the verses came out. Just the fact that y' all said, you know what we going in the booth.

[Joe Budden]

I tried to kill with silence. That didn't work neither. That. That kill him with silence. Nah, I thought I had him for he would be quiet for a few days. Take that. Then on a random Wednesday at 8am gonna be early and Joe Button and you too. Look at you walking around. Butt ass. Yo, dog. Oh my God.

[Flip]

Yo, bro, you think fifth raps?

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

No.

[Parks]

Why not?

[Ish]

No, And I saw his post that when. That's what you talking about. When he said, yeah, but why you.

[Joe Budden]

Don'T think he's all right? Read the post. Read the post.

[Ish]

Fab. Different.

[Joe Budden]

What did he say? Read the post. Pull it up. Let's be factual. Sometimes say, sometimes you send me a boogers of mine. You a say nothing crazy.

[Ish]

It says, let's toast the success, health and prosperity. I'm planning my new year. When I'm done, I'll come out to play. You know, everyone who plays with me wishes they didn't in the end. In a wink emoji.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know if that's how that works. I don't think that's how that Works.

[Ish]

What you mean you don't get to.

[Joe Budden]

Pop up and tell us what you're doing right now? We all working on our New Year's.

[Ish]

No, no, no. I think he's talking to the people that was beating to their phone the next morning. Like, let me see, what, 50? Because that's how quickly he responds. So, like, I'm. You said that bar, though. I'm gonna get to it when I get to it. Yeah, but you. Yeah, but.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, you can't do that. You can't do that.

[Ish]

Just kind of work against him. And no, he's telling people, I seen it. I'mma give y' all what y' all waiting for. I don't even think he talking to them. I think he's talking to the Internet people that are waiting, starving for him to do some.

[Joe Budden]

He's saying, trolley it. I saw it. I saw what you saw.

[Ish]

And it's coming, it's coming.

[Joe Budden]

Give me time and I will eventually have. Have the last laugh. Like I.

[Ish]

That is what he's saying.

[Joe Budden]

That's what he's saying, right?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think you hear no raps.

[Ish]

No, I don't get nothing from rap ever.

[Parks]

Oh, tell me. I. I'm. I'm thinking for the positive. And no, I want to hear.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yo, Uncle Murder verse now.

[Ish]

Oh, no, the wrap up coming.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, that's good.

[Joe Budden]

If I hear that one more time.

[Ish]

It'S coming and you know he going to say something on there.

[Flip]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. Can he rap another time? Like, why every time I'd say, I want to hear Uncle Murder verse, niggas start telling me about the rapper.

[Ish]

Well, I mean, clear what?

[Joe Budden]

The rapper.

[Ish]

I say that because of where we at. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. We at the end of the year. The wrap up should be by the time this drop, probably.

[Joe Budden]

No, I want to hear a Murder New York me out, nigga. Uncle Murder, Tony Yayo.

[Parks]

Who cares?

[Joe Budden]

Let's bring it all the way back.

[Ish]

And just get Fifth talking shit on him. Fifth ain't even got a rap. Just talk shit.

[Flip]

Nah, I want to hear him rap. I don't care.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

This is where. This is where I was like, see that Little Lloyd Banks.

[Ish]

Banks.

[Joe Budden]

That little Lloyd Banks would have been really helpful. Yeah, game.

[Ish]

All of that.

[Joe Budden]

Them niggas did have. They had niggas, yo.

[Ish]

Yes, they did. And they was niggas that was ready to go. They was just.

[Joe Budden]

We don't. I know.

[Parks]

Game was ours.

[Ish]

You did. I though. I ain't gonna play that. You play like that.

[Joe Budden]

I might be the only that all.

[Ish]

Of them went at. You did all right, though.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you, man.

[Ish]

I appreciate that you stayed on your feet.

[Flip]

We already pay the bills time. Did y' all hear the Tyler record?

[Joe Budden]

I did.

[Flip]

That was fire.

[Joe Budden]

He smoked that.

[Flip]

He absolutely smoked that. It's Sag Harbor.

[Joe Budden]

I'll give it a little bit. Play it.

[Ish]

Hey, just talk some for a second.

[Joe Budden]

Cobra.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Cool vibes is only on YouTube to my knowledge. Sag harbor is called.

[Ish]

Hey. Lamping in the Hamptons looking for estates, not a mansion. Scanning for the acreage in the pamphlet, I think this the big one. Sanford Son got his fourth number one in the row.

[Parks]

I'm a champion.

[Ish]

Don't tap the glassy. Rather tap the pedal on the chassis. Call it. Jasper is blowing gassy boys ain't got no rhythm.

[Parks]

Up tempo.

[Ish]

Got him.

[Parks]

Aggie.

[Ish]

She smy. Took the plane to Mar. Damn.

[Joe Budden]

How much it cost you?

[Ish]

Blinking is 182. Travis Barker. This the baby one.

[Joe Budden]

This the lava.

[Ish]

Easier to get from Sag harbor, all bog and hog. It's Australia. You picked up another bag tied. If we keeping it fact work, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I need to relax. Peace of mind.

[Ish]

What I need to get back.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's hard. It's hard.

[Flip]

He buy this? It's a dope. I hope it comes out somewhere where I can buy it.

[Ish]

That was hard.

[Flip]

Sag harbor. It's out YouTube now. Yeah, and three verses. He smoked all verses.

[Ish]

He was saying some.

[Flip]

He was. He was in his bag.

[Ish]

I damn sure thought he was about to hear New York Fab. One more again. That soft ass. But he killed it, though.

[Flip]

Yeah, he did.

[Joe Budden]

He did.

[Ish]

I'm going to listen to that.

[Joe Budden]

Tyler smoked that. I'm still on my fab praise. I don't care what you in Alabama got to say about it. New York, turn it up. New York, turn it up. And don't play with my name out there. I didn't see what you said.

[Ish]

No, they was playing.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see it. They.

[Ish]

You ain't.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't missing. They lucky it was the holidays.

[Ish]

You ain't missing out.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, during the holidays when y' all get to just tweeting a lot and tweeting stuff I don't like. I pray for y' all because it's the holidays, so I figured that's what you need to be doing in the moment. Everybody ain't blessed enough to. Y' all mean be with their family, be with their girl. Some of y' all didn't get a gift. Go ahead and tweet, tweet your life away. Goddamn it. Have a blast. Like, who am I to feel Step on the fun one of these days, though. Flit off mic. You said you you had a beat playing. You had a beat, you had a beat playing.

[Parks]

I'm dropping something.

[Joe Budden]

You had a 50 beat playing like some heat was coming.

[Parks]

You going to see.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, can I talk your flip lying hard? Huh? Huh? You going to give him a little.

[Parks]

Taste pause I got right now?

[Joe Budden]

Nah. All right, all right, all right. In that case, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize picks. All right. Let me put my code in. I keep my code the same so she can go in there.

[Parks]

Let me see.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Parks]

That too easy.

[Joe Budden]

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[Parks]

What is that?

[Joe Budden]

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[Ish]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Budden]

The last person I wanted to win. Never want him to win fantasy league. Oh, won it. He beat G spin 150 to 140. Oh, my God.

[Ish]

He's going to be unbearable.

[Joe Budden]

Michael Rapaport started the season 1 and.

[Ish]

4.

[Joe Budden]

Went 10 and 2 the rest of the way. And the turning point was Cleveland trading Joe Flacco so that his Jamar Chase pick could actually mean something. And he had. He might have had Flaco. He just did a masterful job on the waiver wire with his coaching. I traded him Stefan Diggs for Will Marks. No, I needed Will Marks and he performed for me. And Stefan Diggs performed for him. He gave him 25 points in the fantasy.

[Parks]

Chip.

[Joe Budden]

You can't be mad at it, all right so the ish picks of the week we are going with what is ish doing? It's been doing bad on the picks. They've been highlighting it too. That's why. That's why I didn't say the Joe and his picks.

[Ish]

I peeped that you got you distance yourself but winning. Yeah, because when he.

[Joe Budden]

When he gave you all the joint bat. I know but I wish it. I ain't gonna. I mean I'm riding with. We wait. We took a L. We took a L. They gave us nastiest sports takes for our prize picks picks but I don't. It don't matter, man. I weird.

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Issues going with. Oh, another loser ticket. Xavier Legette for more than 17 receiving yards. He really fell off a cliff.

[Ish]

That's a bad pick Park.

[Flip]

It's. It's a. It's a game to get in the playoffs so it might be a good 17 yards. Yeah.

[Ish]

Go ahead.

[Flip]

Oh yeah. You good.

[Ish]

Keep going.

[Flip]

Yeah, he'll get there.

[Joe Budden]

Brock Purdy for more than 13 and a half rushing yards. Brock Purdy is on the whatever he feel like list, man. Anything he feel like doing, he going.

[Flip]

To get it Sunday.

[Joe Budden]

You putting a lot in Carolina Chubba Hubard for more than seven rushing attempts.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's my matter, bro.

[Ish]

It's about money, bro. It don't be about nothing for me.

[Joe Budden]

But some Spanky and Jaylen Warren for more than 57 rushing and receiving receiving yards.

[Ish]

That one I don't know no DK. Who they going to throw the ball to? Gainwell? We'll see. Yeah, we'll see.

[Flip]

That's another game for a.

[Ish]

Rushing and receiving yard.

[Joe Budden]

And that's the end of our worst take segment. Listen, if you download the app right this very second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 line up only on prize picks where it's good to be. Right. All right. All right. Where you want to go? You want to go to the Combs boys?

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Justin and Christian Combs have a miniseries docu series coming to Zeus.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Where they chronicle the puff trial, I guess. Or their thoughts and views during the puff trial. Or their side of their emotions during the puff trial. The teaser ends in them accepting a collect call from Fort Dix. So it teases a an actual puff call. I mean, I'll toss it to y' all to see how y' all feel. I cannot believe that this is happening.

[Flip]

I. I can. I think it's fair game.

[Joe Budden]

Tell me more. They should we.

[Flip]

Should we should hear the other side.

[Parks]

Side?

[Flip]

Yeah, we should hear the other side.

[Ish]

I agree with that. And also based on just the last couple weeks since the doc has been released, there's been a lot of shit getting debunked. From the actual people. Yeah, like from the actual people that were present then a lot of stuff has been getting debunked. So if people put out a documentary about my dad and some of the things in the documentary were falsehoods, I'm not mad at them for coming forth to try and defend their father while getting a bag at the same time. Because you know, they got a bag. Of course. So. So I don't know how I wouldn't do it, but I'm not mad at them for doing. And they younger gentlemen. So this is the age of that. We would just sit down, grin and bear it. But this is the age of that. So I'm not mad at it.

[Parks]

I mean either.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Parks]

I think it's a time, you know, I think it's time, like park said, to hear from their side. You know what I mean? And why not have my sons do it if they're young enough as far as that the youth could be able to identify with and just see it from the size of the children. No, that's facts.

[Ish]

Another thing, remember the.

[Joe Budden]

I don't wanna hear y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Ish]

No, remember they had.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't think all y' all would share this opinion, but I'm interested.

[Ish]

Remember they had the dude following Puff around in the event that he would've gone free. So I'm sure there's a shit ton of footage. Because another thing came out where the guy that 50 in him got the footage from. From Allegedly was only there for a couple days. He was a fill in for the original camera guy. So the original camera guy has to have mad footage. So Puff ain't go free. They might as well use the footage and again get a bag out of it.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. And.

[Ish]

Cause what's the dude from Zeus Lamel? He came under fire for this. Cause they was like, yo, why are you platforming this? And he put a statement out. I just want to read a statement. Statement. He says, to be clear, this documentary is about giving Justin and Christian the opportunity to share their personal story. We're not here to endorse Diddy or anyone else. As a network, we believe in giving individuals a platform to tell their own experiences. Just like any network that enters the documentary space, we're simply allowing those stories to be told. And that's the Essence of what we doing. I'm not mad at that at all. If, if I'm not endorsing Puff, I'm not trying to tell the quote unquote other side of this or try to make you look at them in a different light. I'm okay with that.

[Flip]

Oh yeah. To be clear, I'm not endorsing Puff. I just think that it's fine for someone else to tell their side of the story.

[Joe Budden]

You can't steal second base and keep your foot on first.

[Ish]

So by letting his kids.

[Joe Budden]

The fact that that release says that and that he felt compelled to put it out is just one of the many reasons why this is a horrible opportunity idea.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

This is a, this could not be a worse idea at a worst time. I mean that's, I'm just going to call a spade.

[Ish]

I mean the logistics of it may or may backfire. But for him to put that statement out.

[Joe Budden]

Give me, give me, give me the percentage of. Because I think that this is no good is coming from this.

[Ish]

It remains to be seen. Well, that's why I'm your prediction.

[Joe Budden]

We put out, we don't know.

[Ish]

They put out a doc with the Menendez brothers and people thought them should have got released. You get what I'm saying? Like so based on some ability of whoever's telling the story to humanize an individual. And again, I'm not well.

[Joe Budden]

And that was, that was an incomplete thought. In your example, people felt like they should be released 30 years after the fact.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

People do not feel like Puff should be released. There's also people actually feel like he should be serving more time. Time. The, the, the state of his name, his business affairs, what it means to be associated, attached to it, to justify it, to rationalize it, to try to explain it, to understand it. Bad state for any of that, for any of that stuff. But this is all time for any of that.

[Ish]

You saying there's people that feel like he should get more time. There's also a lot of people that feel like he should get less time for this. Just only based on.

[Joe Budden]

I think those people outnumbered.

[Ish]

But wait, wait, wait, wait a lot. Let me, let me finish.

[Joe Budden]

Sorry.

[Ish]

Only based on what he was convicted of. That's true.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

He's talking about the court of law. You were tried for this, all the heavy charges you were acquitted of. But I've got.

[Joe Budden]

We're not having the same con. I'm not talking about the court of law.

[Ish]

See, and I, and, and I think.

[Joe Budden]

That you are we in content land now, true. We not in. We in court of public opinion, shaping narratives and whatever else goes on.

[Ish]

If that's the truth, then, yeah, you again. I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

No, not.

[Ish]

Let me. Let me. Let me preface this with I am not a puff sympathizer or none of that. But with what you said, if we're in content land and narrative shaping and all of this, and the 50 doc in content land shaped one narrative, which a couple of those things have already been debated, debunked. If we in content land, what are.

[Joe Budden]

All of these things? The funeral has been debunked.

[Ish]

It was more than that. That was the highlight that came out.

[Joe Budden]

They didn't do enough debunking to reshape how people are currently viewing Sean Combs.

[Ish]

I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think there is a dot that could change how people think, how view Sean Combs. I think people have their idea of him right now. And whether you believe in, yo, he shouldn't have got that, or he's an evil person, he deserves. Deserves to be thrown in jail for the rest of his life. There's no doc that's gonna change that. You're gonna find a doc that aligns with what you believe and rock with it.

[Joe Budden]

That's why I don't really think they're doing it to shape narrative. I mean, that's cool to just throw out there. I think niggas need a bag. I think niggas need a bag.

[Ish]

It could be both.

[Joe Budden]

It's tough out here, and niggas is popped.

[Ish]

It could be both.

[Joe Budden]

Niggas need a bag. If it was about shaping a narrative, I don't even think this lands with Zeus.

[Ish]

That's.

[Joe Budden]

That's. That's part of the point of what I'm saying. Nobody is touching this.

[Ish]

So we might land with Zeus because nobody. Nobody else wants to touch it.

[Joe Budden]

We got that part. But we're not going to ignore what that speaks to. I'm saying, yeah, you got a bag, you landed a Zeus.

[Ish]

But I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

There's a reason why you landed at Zeus. And this is just the first part of my point that y' all are arguing. No, no.

[Ish]

So. So secondly, let's address this Zeus point real quick. If nobody's touching it and Zeus is the only people that will give me a potential platform to put out some shit that I think might allow people to view my father in a better light. I'm rocking with that platform. A bag or not. You get what I'm saying? So Proceed. Yeah. What's the other one?

[Joe Budden]

You think that there's anything that his sons could say right now that would help the way that Puff is viewed?

[Flip]

Probably not.

[Ish]

I think it's a polarizing. No, listen. I think it's a polarizing topic, and I think that more people think Puff should have gotten less time than we'll admit. I think those people are quiet because of how it's going to be viewed. I'm not arguing for Puff. This is an objective argument. I think that there are a lot of people out here that believe that Puff should be home based on what he was convicted of.

[Joe Budden]

Secondly, are y' all going to come on this miniseries and say how you felt at every detail that was.

[Ish]

Was released during trial and be honest about.

[Joe Budden]

Are y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Are y' all gonna have an honest, vulnerable moment about, hey, my dad was into xyz. I knew or didn't know. I. How honest are you gonna be in this?

[Flip]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

Me either. Me either. And see, like, if there was some of that in here, like, the good.

[Flip]

Docs have a little bit of honesty.

[Joe Budden]

The good docs, the. That they slamming for the first 20 minutes is about to sit down and fix his collar and, hey, this is what went on. I don't think they about to do that.

[Flip]

I don't think they.

[Joe Budden]

I think they about to go in there with a bunch of. With a puff piece. No, no, no. No pun intended.

[Ish]

Yeah, I get it.

[Joe Budden]

They're going to go and try to.

[Ish]

Pretty this up and it's the polar opposite of what you reading the room wrong.

[Joe Budden]

If you think that you could go in there and pretty this up, then you are reading the room wrong. 1. True.

[Parks]

2.

[Joe Budden]

3. Your dad is a star. Your dad demands attention, warrants a certain level of esteem. No matter what he did. Your dad got a lot of in the gumbo pot when it comes to him. Y' all don't.

[Ish]

True.

[Parks]

I agree.

[Ish]

That's true.

[Joe Budden]

It's not time. It's not time. I know. I feel like the last month I've been saying a lot that people should. Is Mercury in retrograde or something? I've been saying a lot that people should just reset, sit their ass down. Regather sometimes. No noise is good noise. Your dad will be home in two years. If anything, the silence will drive up the price of some and not just have y' all looking away. We just watched your whole family go through a rigorous trial. The daughters were leaving that. Hearing some of the details of this. And now you turn around with a Zeus. It's just a horrible time at 50. As soon as it went up, 50 posted it. Not to say that's an indicator of things, but. But he posted what niggas was thinking. This ain't gonna turn out good. This is a mess.

[Ish]

And y' all not 50.

[Joe Budden]

This is an absolute mess. Nobody was home saying, I want to hear what Christian and Justin think of all that went on.

[Ish]

I'll agree with that.

[Flip]

Thousand percent valid.

[Ish]

We'll see.

[Joe Budden]

Are y' all gonna watch it?

[Flip]

I don't think I will watch it, y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna watch this. The only winner in this is Zeus.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

And Zeus is some of the best 59.99 I ever spent for the year. Back when I did that, I don't know if it. Reese 39. Whatever I paid, that was the best purchase that I got for the year. I wasn't missing Jocelyn's cabaret. None of them. Sorry. I know that's your favorite.

[Ish]

Imani, too.

[Joe Budden]

You a Zusette Young, too. Yeah. Listen, are you excited about the Christian, Justin? Are you looking for who Nobody's.

[Ish]

Nobody asked for it. You're right.

[Joe Budden]

This is a mess. Not the way to end the year.

[Ish]

But sometimes you might just want to give the. The. Those who are on that side, the sympathizers, a little piece of ammo, man. Give them something.

[Joe Budden]

Give me an example. Like, give me an idea.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Joe Budden]

I don't. Give me an idea of what they could possibly sit there and say to make this make sense to.

[Ish]

Let's say they do come out with some realism and truth. Like, let's say Kim's son speaks about how he felt about them saying shit about his mom, et cetera, et cetera, and really get into it and be like, yeah, my dad was on some bullsh. Like, I think there's a way that they could potentially frame this. That.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Flip]

That there is a way that could happen. I don't anticipate that happening over there.

[Ish]

I'm not disagreeing with that. But let's just for shits and giggles that that happens out. And they really come up there like, yo, to see or hear my mom being addressed or talked about in that manner made me feel away. To see the things that my dad were doing made me feel away. And that could be true. And this can also be true. I think it might win over more people than you think. I don't think the people that are anti puff will ever be pro puff. It ain't gonna matter. Like, to some of them niggas, you die slow, you know what I'm saying? But I think there's a group of people that are more open minded than we may. We may know.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't. I think it's sometimes, sometimes in life you got to play the odds.

[Parks]

So who you think?

[Joe Budden]

Yes, anything can happen.

[Ish]

We'll see what the numbers come back. We gonna see what the numbers gonna come back. I think the numbers.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think it's. I don't think I'm saying it is a grave mistake. That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

So keep it that way. I don't think they're trying to refrain.

[Joe Budden]

They. What do they lose?

[Ish]

You saying it's a mistake. So what, what do they lose? Question.

[Joe Budden]

What do they lose?

[Parks]

Yeah, they lose anything.

[Joe Budden]

They can muddy their name, they can muddy their last name.

[Ish]

But your name is associated with him. It's mud.

[Joe Budden]

Not going to say that. I'm, I'm, I'm not going to say that. There is some mud.

[Ish]

It's. Who don't even acknowledge they professionally work with him, let alone.

[Joe Budden]

There is some.

[Parks]

I think is only speaking.

[Joe Budden]

But you have your own Carfax and crazy. You have your own line of credit. They could get up there looking and sound in a way if they try.

[Parks]

To validate their father's actions. I don't think that's what's gonna happen. If they try to make excuses for their father doing what he was doing. Dave Chappelle just compared his father to Jack Johnson saying that nigga went to jail for doing what he loved. Which is saying that whatever freaky shit Puff was into, he suffered from that. I don't think anybody's gonna talk about anything that happened with Cassie at all.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Parks]

Nobody, because we saw it. Nobody's gonna address that. They're talking about sexual acts.

[Joe Budden]

What do y' all think these brothers are going in there to address that?

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Parks]

I don't think they're talking about Cassie yet. That'll be the great mistake if they.

[Ish]

Talking about the Cassie speaking to their Carfax. To be honest, and this is with the utmost respect, I don't think them niggas carry an individual Carfax outside of their fathers. What if these niggas.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

Now, they may have. No, no, but that's. Yeah, I agree with him on this one.

[Joe Budden]

Talk. He not talking.

[Ish]

You talk. No, I can't hear what he's saying. He ain't on. I don't, I don't think necessarily that in, in the public space or in the entertainment space that these boys have. Have. Have done enough that they can stand independently without their dad.

[Parks]

They have their own cache. They have all their own individuals. They haven't done enough, but they.

[Joe Budden]

All their own individuals.

[Ish]

I mean individual based on Puff songs, man. Them as Puff sons, bro. And again, I don't mean that with no disrespect. Those are Puff's sons. These boys have not done enough in the entertainment space that they can stand on their own two feet.

[Joe Budden]

You're not, you're not addressing. I'm. I'm talking about the future of their Carfax. Either one of them.

[Ish]

Your Carfax has a.

[Joe Budden]

Either one of them can walk into a record label and potentially get a record deal. That cannot happen for Puff today. There are a lot of opportunities that are no longer existent for Buff. That's not the case for them. They have their future. They have some talent.

[Ish]

You think somebody get them a record deal today?

[Joe Budden]

They.

[Ish]

They are.

[Joe Budden]

They. I think that can happen. It's a possibility. Again, we playing the odds.

[Ish]

So let's play the odds.

[Joe Budden]

I'm playing the odds.

[Ish]

You think it's more likely that somebody would give them a record deal today or more like not or more likely than Puff? No, no, no, no. And the no based off of, like y' all said, they're Carfax. So one of them walk into a label. You think a label is going to sign one of them today?

[Parks]

There's still potential for them.

[Ish]

Right now, your name being associated with this?

[Joe Budden]

To answer your question, yes. If you're asking me. Which is how. Which is how they're at this Zeus deal. And I think depending on their name, I don't know that Zeus does a deal with Puff directly. I don't know that.

[Flip]

Now this. I think his doc could swing that either way, though, by the way, I think it's. If they bomb this doc and make a fool of the name and all that like we're talking about, it's going to be hard for them to walk into a record label.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Ish]

You. You think they get a Zeus show if this, if this Puff trial don't go this way and you don't think Zeus don't get a Puff. You don't think Zeus would give Puff a deal?

[Joe Budden]

I don't know that. You.

[Ish]

You said, yo, I don't think Puff. Zeus will give Puff a deal.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know.

[Ish]

I think if Puff came the odds.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, maybe not.

[Ish]

I think if Puff comes home tomorrow, Puff would have every network in the in the world. This is about.

[Flip]

Oh, you're wrong.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, you're wrong.

[Ish]

You're wrong. Not every. All right, we going to say not every, bro. These networks don't give a. About these telling their story. They care about money, and Puff has a story to tell, and Puff story is going to get a million eyes on it. And these wa.

[Joe Budden]

These networks care a lot more than you make it out.

[Flip]

Yeah, a lot of them would not that backlash.

[Ish]

That backlash today. Start with them advertisers and all of that type of.

[Joe Budden]

I. That's all this is. And advertising dollars and what. What Lamel borrowed money from somewhere.

[Ish]

So back to my point.

[Joe Budden]

Who cares what Lamel would or wouldn't do? The people that he borrowed money from. How do y' all feel about it? I think that his kid's name is in better standing than his name right this second. I think they have a shot. They have their future. He had his shot. But listen, we going around circles. My main point.

[Ish]

Point.

[Joe Budden]

I think this is a horrible idea. A horrible idea. I don't know if I can think of a worse idea.

[Ish]

We'll see. Yeah, we'll see.

[Joe Budden]

And I With them, too.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

Like, I'm not against them.

[Ish]

Me either.

[Joe Budden]

Like, they didn't do it. I'm not.

[Ish]

I'm not anti them.

[Joe Budden]

They've been nothing but kind to me.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm not anti them. That's why I said with the.

[Joe Budden]

They look stupid in the trailer. Did y' all see the trailer? Oh, okay. Y' all should watch the trailer then first.

[Ish]

I didn't. I didn't.

[Joe Budden]

Like y' all should see the trailer.

[Parks]

It didn't.

[Joe Budden]

Look, we should pause this. Y' all watch the trailer and come back.

[Parks]

Did you see the trailer?

[Joe Budden]

I did.

[Flip]

I did.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, okay. I'm talking to people that didn't see the trailer.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Watch the trailer.

[Ish]

Yeah, I. I mean, I didn't necessarily like how they looked when Puff was on trial. They doing push ups outside the courtroom. All of that. To me, I didn't see that.

[Parks]

I didn't see that. What?

[Joe Budden]

I didn't see even the.

[Flip]

Where he said he would slap 50 or whatever the it was they was.

[Ish]

Doing push ups outside.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah. And the song that he put out back then.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

All right. No, what about the. The. The family decision making says that it's been. I think it's a one since all this has been happening.

[Ish]

Zero. Zero. No, no.

[Joe Budden]

And I think this is right. Think this is right in line. Right in line with that.

[Ish]

There you go. I think all of that is right in line. I think. Think that. I think that after the house got raided, remember they put the song out. All the guns was at the house. You got the wrong house. I think that their lack of leadership, the leader. Humility, bro. When you've been entitled your entire existence, I think the lack of humility shows and I again, when Puff got. When they, when they announced the. The, the. The verdicts for the trial, son, the sun was outside, no shirt on, doing push ups. I just think that was tacky as as far. But again, their level of entitlement. They've been rich. They've been Puff sons their entire existence, bro. And ain't no telling what they saw in terms of him getting away with mad. So, yeah, we think we untouchable.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So yeah, I'm gonna put the record out saying, yeah, y' all got the wrong house, cuz. I think we bulletproof.

[Joe Budden]

That is a mess. Yeah, yo, but it's all entitlement.

[Ish]

I'm with you all with love.

[Parks]

So they should just sit down and shut up. Shut the fuck up. I respect the nigga you could protecting defending their father.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sorry. And I don't knock no hustle. I mean, you got a bag? You want a bag? There's the bag. Go do what you need to do to get the bag.

[Parks]

But what about defending the backlash?

[Joe Budden]

Even if it goes, it's best. Again, back to playing the odds. And if it goes, best case scenario, I got the backlash being at 6575 represent. Really? Yes. Yo, this is a heart. No PR firm would tell them to do this. There's not a PR firm in the unit. The good ones. I'm talking about the ones that of that nobody would tell them to do this. Yo, we not at street level with how we respond to things. And that's how some of it is coming off. And I think that's a mistake. Call somebody. Call one of them firms. That's 300amonth. Ask for advice. Get some guidance and leadership while your leader is away doing work and time and let him come home. His voice carries weight. He's a little more charming. He got all of that shit that Micah. Get this going in a different way. Until then, mute it the fuck up. Yo, some battles ain't for our kids. They for us.

[Flip]

That's valid.

[Joe Budden]

Our kids gonna want to jump out there and save the day and fight and fight for the fan.

[Ish]

The end. I got you, dad.

[Joe Budden]

You sit up up in and prove a point and prove that you could. No, yo, hell no. That's your button's opinion only I could be wrong. I've been wrong. I've been wrong before. We, we.

[Ish]

We. We will. We will wait and see.

[Flip]

We will see.

[Joe Budden]

But is not when that comes out. Is grabbing popcorn and waiting for the mistake.

[Ish]

Oh yeah. Is definitely watching that with a. With a magnifying glass.

[Joe Budden]

They're waiting for the mistake. They're not waiting to understand what you feeling and going through or just your emotions. Nobody's looking to understand you. We shall see. All these adult men in here. Anybody want to give advice to Kaisernat? Come on. Let's do it. Kaisernet right off his My mental health is. Hasn't been the way it's needed to be.

[Ish]

I just think it's a lesson learned.

[Joe Budden]

Hold up. Let me tell the people right off his mental health ain't where it needs to be. He tweeted tweets. I'm single and I'm never doing that again. I'm never doing a relationship again. That hit me. That hit me because odd thing to say when you're so young.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

But if you saying that you're feeling that and if you're feeling that I assume you went through something with your lady that had you feeling like that.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I immediately went to this before I knew any of the room rumors about his girl and it'd be a young boy and her wanting the. The G. The pink G wagon for Christmas and her. They got clips going around of her saying anything you need her to say.

[Parks]

And it ain't.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't the greatest. But I immediately went back to when I was held as Kai. 26, 27, 24. No he's a little older than 24.

[Flip]

That's what it says on Google.

[Joe Budden]

Okay.

[Ish]

Shitty.

[Joe Budden]

All right. Let's. Let's call it 24. That's the time. Yo. That's the time that immediately rid me of any take I was coming in here to say about Kaisernat's breakup.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

That's when it gets bad.

[Joe Budden]

24 them breakups too bad 25. 26. Your first real breakup.

[Ish]

Yep.

[Flip]

Gut wrenching.

[Joe Budden]

As a man or a young man.

[Ish]

That's the one that define you.

[Joe Budden]

That is good to define your next 15 years is going to build character. I remember I'm calling my mom. I called my mother.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Joe Budden]

I made the call. Boy. You talking about. I was crying in public. I couldn't go to Path Mark.

[Ish]

You couldn't eat you in the bath. I was in the bathroom at work.

[Joe Budden]

Bro.

[Ish]

In the stall up. You can't do Nothing that.

[Joe Budden]

Subway bathrooms, subway, corporate bath.

[Ish]

I was in college. N like, come on, man, let's go hoop.

[Joe Budden]

You like, get off.

[Ish]

I don't. Your word is what? You don't want to do nothing, bro.

[Flip]

Not at all.

[Ish]

You don't want to live. The only. The only caveat to him going through it is he's rich and live. So I don't know how it would affect him now because now he gonna go through it. Like, yo, every chick that want to with me, they only want to with me because of who I am, not who I am. You get what I'm saying? So that's a. That's a different thing. This could be why he's saying I'm not doing this. Yeah, we didn't have to go through that. I mean, you was popular, you wasn't rich, but you had fame. So that is different. You know what I'm saying? Like, that is different for him, bro. I don't know how.

[Flip]

Yeah, I don't know either.

[Ish]

I know what it did to me. And I. So I don't. I'm.

[Flip]

I couldn't imagine having eyes on me while I was going through this, bro.

[Ish]

Prayer to that young rough. Prayers to that young man. That part. And he gets the majority of his money, I'm assuming. I don't know it from streaming, which you are allowing the people into your real world, into your life. And now you got to give the world this hurt and this heart break, bro. I couldn't.

[Flip]

This whole is fun. Like, he be having fun, dancing, laughing.

[Joe Budden]

And not even just your first relationship, your first public. You put this one out there for us to see. You was doing the pda. You gave her an audience and a business.

[Ish]

That's a piece.

[Joe Budden]

That's the other part that we be ignoring.

[Flip]

Talk about it. You better.

[Joe Budden]

I won't. Because I'm a sound away. I won't talk about it because I'll sound sound away.

[Flip]

But you're the one that's got to give the advice.

[Joe Budden]

You create an IP and then that person leads you. Let's pretend this is your first baddie, right? This is your first great looking girl that you thought was truly there for you. And. And the worst breakup is when you have that rug pulled from underneath you. I don't know the details of this, but it looks to me like he had the rug pulled from underneath him. Yeah, it looked like it happened fast. Ass, abrupt.

[Ish]

He didn't see it coming.

[Joe Budden]

Painful.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

During the holiday. And even if the rumor ain't true, still listen. Hey, in the Breakup. All the rumors is true. Unfortunately, if you're the guy and you don't speak to her no more, everything or y' all ain't speaking like you used to. And she moving a little different, wearing less, going out, more dms, a little more lit. Phone a little more popping. And now I gotta change the password. Changed your name in the phone. Ass. Took the emojis right off the end of you. Emojis posted in her close friends, which is her whole network except for you.

[Ish]

Yep.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, yo, I'm single. I'm available. Now that. That hurts. There's no way around it. K BG's bubble gun. There's no way. There's no way around it. Every man has. Has to go through. Trust me, you'll be better in the long run.

[Ish]

You definitely will.

[Joe Budden]

You'll be a better man for it in long run. I don't have an opinion on this, cuz. I've been there. And it ain't fun.

[Flip]

Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

It ain't.

[Ish]

And now that you mentioned, like, his status with going through this, like you said, giving old girl Elaine and all of that, I could see him saying, I'm never doing this again. And meaning it a thousand percent. I could see like, oh, lesson learned. No, he'll do it. Not to that.

[Joe Budden]

I listen to Parks. I listen to Mark. There's a lot of married people that I hear say, if this don't work, I'm never doing that again. And granted, they married, but that feeling.

[Ish]

Most married people I know say the same thing.

[Joe Budden]

Yo.

[Ish]

Or people that are divorced, a lot of.

[Joe Budden]

I was about to say, my heart goes out to everybody out there that's going through divorce right now as well. They'd be like, split them asses like that. Give it a house. Go. Go ahead.

[Parks]

Ahead.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead and give it to her. That car. I know you like the car. Give her the car. Divorce. That is rough.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

I ain't saying things.

[Joe Budden]

I know. I'm looking for you to say something. You got this.

[Ish]

No, just the splitting up of the assets, all that. But outside of that dog, it be. It'd be families torn apart. You've been intertwined with this person for some people. Decades, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Decades.

[Ish]

Like y' all picked that painting. Y' all did that. Y' all did this. We not even talking about what it. What it does to the children. You know what I'm saying? Like, we just talking about a person that's been intertwined in your fabric.

[Flip]

The dog.

[Ish]

For. For a long time.

[Flip]

Who gets the dog now?

[Ish]

You gotta Go stand on your own in these dating streets.

[Flip]

That part, too.

[Joe Budden]

That's the thing. That's the part.

[Ish]

What?

[Joe Budden]

That's the thing. What she gonna have. She gonna go have a lot more fun than you about to have.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

We take it harder, she gonna regret it.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's short term. Fine.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, whatever you gotta tell yourself. Hey, in the moment, it don't feel.

[Ish]

Like, oh, no for sure.

[Joe Budden]

And your girl leave you and go fuck with a stone cold kill. You can't even say nothing to the.

[Ish]

Nah, that nigga's out here.

[Parks]

He is.

[Ish]

This generation's Tupac.

[Joe Budden]

Well, I don't know. I'm not gonna put this on him. It's a rumor. I don't know what he doing and what he ain't doing.

[Parks]

She denied it.

[Joe Budden]

Everybody denied it. Denied it.

[Parks]

She denied it. She said that? No, okay. She don't with that guy.

[Flip]

But yeah, it gotta be true, though.

[Parks]

You know how I go just.

[Ish]

Just seeing your girl name attached to that woman. Yeah, like, what are you talking about?

[Joe Budden]

I ain't gonna lie. And good thing Kai is small enough to fit inside of his glove compartment and just hide. You gotta go. You. I'm telling you something. You have to go stuff yourself somewhere. Get away. Nobody. I'm telling you, Flip, no, go home.

[Parks]

And just sit in it, man.

[Joe Budden]

Home? Yeah. Just.

[Parks]

Just sit in it, bro. It's. It's not gonna get any.

[Ish]

You can't, you know, home, you gotta.

[Joe Budden]

Go home in love is a house.

[Parks]

She had to talk about some. Smells like her stalker.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, dog.

[Parks]

Got a bunch of keys.

[Joe Budden]

Joe, her pictures is up everywhere.

[Parks]

Take them shits down.

[Flip]

Oh, you gotta do that. Yeah, put all that in the box.

[Joe Budden]

She the reason that when you go.

[Ish]

You ain't gonna do he. You can't do that right away. You, up, up. You can't even take the pictures down.

[Flip]

Yo, Kai's mans go put his in the box.

[Ish]

Depending on what she did, I will throw them pictures across the Pacific.

[Parks]

You crazy.

[Ish]

Light them on fire. I'm a bonfire, right?

[Joe Budden]

And listen. Un. Unfortunately, listen. I'm. I'm going try to get some advice here. Unfortunately, once you tag lame, the game is follow the leader. Depending on how y' all broke up, she out there talking. Talking.

[Ish]

That's true. Yeah. Yeah. And the other ones is listening.

[Joe Budden]

And they are listening. And you are worth a whole lot of money. My advice to you, don't do the public joint again. You can keep it private. Yeah. At least wait the standard six years.

[Ish]

Damn.

[Flip]

The standard decade is Good.

[Joe Budden]

Well, you gotta wait. You gotta wait. Wait. Yeah. Wait nine, ten years before you go public. You worth entirely too much. There's too many companies banking on you. Too many people, your family members and loved ones. People that. People that really, really, really need you. Long haul people, long term people. You gotta still show up and be yourself for those people versus this girl. No more public relationships. Your days of that, finito.

[Flip]

You gotta worry about. You gotta worry about the.

[Joe Budden]

Also, what I noticed about you streaming, too, y' all are. Are sensitive.

[Ish]

Let me ask you a question.

[Joe Budden]

A lot of us men are sensitive.

[Ish]

A lot of us are.

[Joe Budden]

But you streamer stream, so it's shown. We can see it be sensitive. The rapper that sensitive. Not. They're not on record. They kill you, kill you. Shoot them up, bang, bang, bang. Then they go home and get to being sensitive.

[Ish]

The marshmallow pudding. Oh, for sure.

[Joe Budden]

Tomorrow you say you're gonna take it back.

[Ish]

If she came back today, he taking her back. You crazy.

[Parks]

No. Stop it.

[Joe Budden]

This. We need OGs.

[Parks]

Come on, bro.

[Joe Budden]

This. We need OGs. Sorry.

[Ish]

Yes, he is.

[Joe Budden]

You crazy.

[Ish]

Yes, he is.

[Parks]

If it's on public, and it ain't.

[Ish]

Nothing wrong with taking her back.

[Parks]

There's not nothing wrong with it.

[Ish]

It's a growing day.

[Parks]

It's played out in public. A lot of them niggas, like he said, is sensitive.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't gonna go no rapper.

[Parks]

Public perception means something.

[Ish]

Joe.

[Flip]

Smack you.

[Joe Budden]

Well, that's why I don't have nothing to say, because I understand.

[Parks]

Me, too.

[Ish]

And I wouldn't knock him if he took her back, bro, listen. Let me tell you something. Y' all is bugging, bro. Yo, when you in love, it ain't no logic to it. When you are in love, it ain't no logical, it ain't no advice. Somebody could tell you, you got to go through that on your own and you got to figure out your own path. There's no logic in love. No, they not. No, they not.

[Parks]

You think he's. Listen to this when you ask your question. Think that was real love?

[Ish]

I think for that boy to get up there and show that level of hurt, is it when you.

[Parks]

Because it all played out publicly. But do you think that's it played out publicly? You see me with her publicly, the rumors is going around. I have to publicly say this.

[Joe Budden]

I think it was real.

[Ish]

I don't have to be ashamed.

[Joe Budden]

Wearing a onesie Pink Panther pajama, picking out G Wagons.

[Parks]

He like, yes, that's his girlfriend.

[Joe Budden]

No. Now, he like to always do that. No, no, no, bro. No, that's.

[Parks]

He's strange. Say 20's young. Yeah.

[Ish]

That's all you know at that point.

[Parks]

He's young. He going to move on.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Parks]

We not saying, listen old man or grown man relationship or projecting on this young bro.

[Ish]

We talking about we endured in our 20s. We not talking about we did at 40 and got over it. And I was curled up like me.

[Parks]

With a big dick in the moment like this and didn't want to come outside. Is you talking about y heart?

[Joe Budden]

Yo, dog, heartbreak is a thing, bro.

[Parks]

I didn't say it wasn't a thing.

[Ish]

Yo, these be playing tough break didn't affect us. I seen you, so I me you my man when you go through that heartbreak. It ain't no tough guy.

[Parks]

It's not about being tough. Yo, you taking that girl back, you want to make it one of you that. I don't think he's gonna take her back publicly how things play. I don't think so.

[Ish]

I hear you.

[Parks]

I hope it's too many hands and there's too many people that rely like. He's a whole bigger picture than what y' all circular.

[Joe Budden]

What they saying is if he did not being circular.

[Parks]

I set something different. No, no. You trying to crack a joke.

[Joe Budden]

I'm saying your joke radar is off. They saying if he did take her back, what would you say?

[Ish]

Nothing.

[Joe Budden]

What would you say?

[Ish]

And he don't give a. I'm the boss. If I take my girl back, what y' all gonna say? What the is y' all gonna say?

[Parks]

I. I feel like there's too many people around. Like you said earlier, that counts, and that will try to prevent things like that.

[Joe Budden]

Oh. Oh, please. It happened. It happened under their watch.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

What are you talking about? Are choosing over. They.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Flip]

That doesn't happen. It's usually a mistake in a heartbeat. It's usually a mistake.

[Ish]

We're not talking about later. We talking about living in it right now. When you are, you'll make the mistakes.

[Joe Budden]

Right now, you're taking a bag, dude. Rule number 4000.

[Parks]

The 80.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Is taking back the lady.

[Ish]

They taking up ass.

[Flip]

That was good. That was good.

[Parks]

They taking back.

[Joe Budden]

I'm working.

[Parks]

I'm working. They taking back the lady, yo.

[Joe Budden]

Nothing wrong. I done took back plenty of harlot.

[Parks]

What? What.

[Joe Budden]

What are we talking about here?

[Parks]

They don't have to be.

[Joe Budden]

They don't even have to be good women took back plenty of jazz in the daytime.

[Parks]

It was.

[Joe Budden]

It was.

[Ish]

Everybody could see.

[Parks]

Then y come on back home Y' all enablers.

[Joe Budden]

You complete me.

[Parks]

I told her.

[Joe Budden]

You complete me. I'm not. You said are enablers.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yo, bro, that's why I don't talk to.

[Joe Budden]

That was married at 14. Yeah, I know. I don't. I don't. They don't. They don't know.

[Parks]

I didn't get married at 14. One, two.

[Joe Budden]

All that military marriage. I'm done with y'. All. I'm done. I'm done all that. I got married at 18 for the benefits and the tax. Done with the. That had to be in their 20s.

[Ish]

And go through it.

[Joe Budden]

Single feeling. They something. Think you out the game. You took it at Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was yesterday.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Y fresh off of going to my family's house or your family's house. Are talking and now find out that you sucking some killer dick, girl. Yeah, always. It always go suck a dick. Who bust his gun more than you. It never fails.

[Flip]

I've also been.

[Joe Budden]

I'm telling you. It never fails. Of right after you.

[Ish]

They get tired of doing things the right way.

[Joe Budden]

I'm tired of this guy.

[Ish]

I hate to tell you. It's a conversation.

[Joe Budden]

Are you hungry? You feeding me. Paying attention to my needs. Nah, I want a paroli. That's going to bust something down.

[Flip]

Yeah, they. Those are the ones they regret to at this point.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, bro, they're going to regret it.

[Ish]

It's a conversation in this. Patreon it, but it's a conversation in this.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Ish]

For. For all intents and purposes and most women on paper, I don't know Casa Not. I've never met Casa not, but seemingly he's the catch.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ish]

But what they speak about today, he's the catch. You will risk it all for a nigga with a roster.

[Joe Budden]

Ignorant question.

[Flip]

Shoot.

[Joe Budden]

No judgment. Shoot. Actually, do we think he's folding shit? Yo, that matters.

[Ish]

It matters.

[Joe Budden]

If he's the youngest, I didn't want to stop in. Nigga with all the money in the world.

[Ish]

World, yes.

[Joe Budden]

He probably has more money than his age group.

[Ish]

The girl that he like ain't really.

[Joe Budden]

Looking at his peer group like that there.

[Flip]

That's fair.

[Joe Budden]

She looked at that, pointed at the screen and said, I want the pink G wagon. If you can't find the pink exterior, I'll settle for the black one with the pink inside. He got up and lost his noodle. He couldn't believe. Believe it. And I felt that's when my heart went out. That feeling is the feeling that we get at 24. When you hear at all. Oh, my Lord. I felt for that boy. So my question if you do y'.

[Ish]

All think because listen, it matters. No, it matters.

[Joe Budden]

When I was getting my Jezebel's back in my 20s, I didn't have a lot of money. But I was gonna again a lot. I was gonna again.

[Ish]

You're right.

[Joe Budden]

I might have lost a couple at some point.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

But I was going to fold something up.

[Ish]

Now. Now hold up.

[Joe Budden]

I don't know what. What my 20s look like if I were unable to fold something up.

[Ish]

See, I think. I don't even think that's the most important thing. Even though it is valid.

[Flip]

No, that's when you're poor.

[Joe Budden]

You know What? In the 2000s, these images. It's Mr. Ste. It's Mr. Ste. That nigga songs every song. He was talking to your bitch.

[Ish]

I bet neighbors no more neighbors know I invented sex.

[Flip]

I don't know.

[Joe Budden]

You had to smack the out of him for even these song titles. Your listening to these?

[Ish]

No doubt. I just think it's the image.

[Joe Budden]

My girl got carried away the other day with one of them. Anthony Joshua Post.

[Ish]

Oh no.

[Joe Budden]

They've been bugging. No, but they've been bugging the out.

[Ish]

They've been bugging the out. I said something and you wouldn't say nothing to him.

[Joe Budden]

I said something though.

[Ish]

That be like joy must break you.

[Joe Budden]

Well, he going through too much.

[Ish]

Dog. It don't be that sometimes it be yo, I like the bad boy. Yeah, I know what this boy is at all times. He's in the house, he's streaming. He playing video games. He's doing all of the quote unquote right. I want the dangerous. This little nerdy is making a ton of money. Even if he is folding her up, he's safe. I want to be over there on the wild side with this. A good point.

[Joe Budden]

You got to shoot a stream on stream on live. That yo, you got to just go out trail blades, bust him in the cat. This is for you. I'm joking of course.

[Ish]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

My heart goes out to that boy.

[Ish]

That young man a th percent.

[Joe Budden]

I don't wish that on nobody. You know how say I don't wish.

[Ish]

Jail on nobody but they everybody all young. Need it though. Need it now. We don't wish wish it on you.

[Joe Budden]

I don't.

[Ish]

You gotta.

[Joe Budden]

You needed it a couple times. I don't wish it on you publicly. And I don't wish it on you while you up a bunch of millions.

[Parks]

You gotta go maybe a little easier.

[Ish]

No one I wish with the millions. No one I wish it I don't know. I wish you get it in your early 20s. Yeah, he's in his early 20s. I wish it on people in their early 20s, because if they get it in their latter 30s, 40s, it could do something else right now. He can handle it. He. Even if you think he can, he can. Because that's a part of it you always think you can't handle. You can handle. That's the advice. Yeah, he can't handle it.

[Flip]

And he's got a big audience. There's a fine ass girl somewhere.

[Parks]

That is a good girl.

[Ish]

He gotta get to that point right now.

[Joe Budden]

You feel. Let him go.

[Parks]

Do what?

[Ish]

He gonna go. Yeah, you gotta go. You gotta get to that point.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. All right. I ain't gonna let these black, black and white podcasters mislead you. First. The first joint that you ain't gonna be nothing. Fine.

[Flip]

Oh, that's a fact. Well, she might be fine. She might not be good, though.

[Joe Budden]

This girl that y' all describing, that ain't the first one that you. That's about.

[Parks]

He would just take.

[Ish]

I wanted to give some bad OG.

[Flip]

Advice and go out and stick your dick in the dirt a bunch of times the quickest.

[Joe Budden]

Those are the joints that's gonna nurse you back.

[Ish]

Get over them, get under a new one.

[Flip]

Yeah, a bunch. Yeah.

[Parks]

You may have to pay, too.

[Joe Budden]

No, what.

[Parks]

May have to pay, they gotta pay.

[Joe Budden]

That is not the advice to you. At 49, you be 50 years old.

[Parks]

No, I did one.

[Joe Budden]

Knock it off.

[Ish]

I didn't want to give that advice, but it's.

[Flip]

It works.

[Ish]

That's what I would tell.

[Parks]

Go right on there.

[Joe Budden]

Do y' all think getting. Getting under a bunch of them works?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Budden]

Yes.

[Ish]

No.

[Flip]

At least short term.

[Ish]

Watch this. Keeping your mind works.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

You gonna go home and cry when you by yourself. But damn, if I ain't going in the house at 2am, 3am I'm gonna be as occupied with as many people. Attraction. My attraction means I'm gonna be distracted.

[Joe Budden]

Distracted you gonna be. You gonna be at live in the section with all of them Bodequa baddies, and you're gonna be on your phone looking at what she doing.

[Ish]

That is true.

[Joe Budden]

Let me tell you something. Let me tell y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Joe Budden]

There is nothing worse.

[Flip]

Yeah, don't do it.

[Joe Budden]

Than being in front of one of the new joins and looking at your phone. And your brain can't. Your brain won't even let you be there.

[Ish]

See, that's the bad part. Because even if he noticed looking for it, they going to send it to them. Yeah, they compare.

[Joe Budden]

You be comparing them.

[Ish]

You be comparing them. That's it's going to be sent oh look she out doing this now. Bong send to your phone.

[Flip]

I would delete the right out my phone for a little while.

[Ish]

Yo, you can't.

[Joe Budden]

He got to pop out with Neil Long or something.

[Ish]

Yeah he got to pop out the.

[Joe Budden]

Streamer version of me. He got to pop out with streamer.

[Ish]

I need to leave streamer. He. He can.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. India lovers.

[Ish]

I don't know. He got it's one out here that'll make him look nice.

[Parks]

I'm saying man.

[Joe Budden]

He he somebody I love you man. I love you. I do not wish this my prayers.

[Ish]

And you'll be all right bro. And you will be all right.

[Flip]

There's plenty of fish in the se.

[Joe Budden]

We'Ll be all right my in 2027. You'll be all right in 27. Don't let these give you false hope. It's good.

[Flip]

No summertime Summer.

[Ish]

What's up?

[Parks]

He played different.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, who are they talking to?

[Parks]

Yo by the next joint University. You be good.

[Joe Budden]

What's up? University in nine months.

[Parks]

It's about to be one in the summer.

[Joe Budden]

The whole Internet was one egg.

[Parks]

It's about to be one in the summer. Hey Joe, you be listen to these.

[Ish]

That going to be the we was broke. We was brokenhearted and poor. Yeah he broke it hearted rich. He by Memorial Day he good spring spring.

[Joe Budden]

Trust.

[Flip]

Maybe St. Patrick's Day.

[Parks]

It's a little fast boy he.

[Ish]

He get a little fast track.

[Joe Budden]

I disagree with y' all and I almost want to make a bet but that's foul to bet on another. What are you about to do?

[Ish]

Like that's the thing with streaming.

[Joe Budden]

These been inside streaming when me and you used to go through it. We'd have to hit that Jersey girl plow some dough hip.

[Ish]

Nowhere to do that.

[Joe Budden]

You gotta something on stream. He gotta hit dm.

[Ish]

Yo if that went to his DM hitting folder right now.

[Joe Budden]

Oh boy. Bye. This is a lot of boy by and Summer 27.

[Ish]

Half of the explore page is in that DMS right now. That's up.

[Parks]

She did that to you and make.

[Ish]

It hard for us to find a good man. Are you crazy?

[Joe Budden]

Ish somebody only you sit there and filter through all that's there like that. You know how much work you got to put in to filter through all that? The request mess to get to something my listen I got summer 27. He'll be back to himself. Okay I got I got wale Stop it, too. Stop it. I ain't going to highlight it. Stop it.

[Flip]

I missed it.

[Joe Budden]

Wale getting this off.

[Ish]

Oh, don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

He is. That is what he doing. Come on. He know what he doing. I know what he doing.

[Ish]

Nah, stop it.

[Parks]

He say.

[Joe Budden]

Not important what he said. He said some. That's supposed to be, like, inspiring or, oh, I've been there. Or whatever the he said or the face or talking about his mental health, all this.

[Ish]

Stop it.

[Joe Budden]

Mind your business. You know what? Y' all just came off and you know how it looks. Stop it. Stop it. If you wondering why some people have that view of you is moments like this.

[Ish]

Leave it alone.

[Joe Budden]

You're doing great. Your album's great. Leave it alone. You don't need it. You don't need it. Let them streaming, do they streaming breakup shits.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Anyway.

[Flip]

Anyway.

[Joe Budden]

Damn, man.

[Flip]

Poor Kai.

[Joe Budden]

I went and told my girl how much I love her, how much you mean to me and all this.

[Ish]

It's.

[Joe Budden]

No, you got to do it. You got to do it. You got to do it. When last time y' all told your wives and pardons how much they mean every day and how your life would just be a mess without them all the time is. Yeah, Vanilla Ice, there's more.

[Parks]

Morning.

[Ish]

Okay, it was yesterday, right?

[Parks]

Like you. Like you special.

[Ish]

When's the last time y' all express.

[Parks]

Them?

[Joe Budden]

This not a joke, all right? This is. No, I'm not.

[Parks]

When did you say.

[Joe Budden]

What the is wrong with these paranoid.

[Parks]

Wait, wait, you ain't stand over the phone. I started this person.

[Joe Budden]

When last time you lied. Cory. Enough of you.

[Parks]

Yeah, Cory is nuts, bro. He got an emotionally available hoodie on, too. Lying his ass off.

[Ish]

Yeah, when last time you lied to your hoodie?

[Joe Budden]

Is you talking about single gotta lie through a hoodie? I'm emotionally ab. Imagine being single and having. Having to give you a mating call through your hoodie.

[Ish]

That's some crazy. That.

[Joe Budden]

That is some sick old.

[Ish]

And, you know, you be in Whole Foods where that matter. Oh, you're emotionally available.

[Parks]

Oh, there's nobody. He don't got the tricks like you used to have. Yo, Whole Food. You wake up in the morning, I'm. You know what I'mma do today? I'mma go to that Empire State Building and just stand outside. He don't got those tricks, bro. He don't got that tricks. He don't got those. Do that.

[Ish]

Fifteen years ago, Whole Foods in Edgewater, New Jersey.

[Parks]

I didn't say it wasn't it. I'm just saying that bro, 15 years.

[Ish]

Ago at one o'.

[Parks]

Clock. It's probably in the afternoon, in the morning.

[Joe Budden]

No more know it's probably. Stop.

[Ish]

They had a Jamba Juice in there back in the day. Jamba Juice is gone.

[Joe Budden]

But I'm talking about back in today.

[Ish]

I wouldn't know.

[Joe Budden]

Ain't your mailbox over there?

[Parks]

Why you trying to get caught up?

[Ish]

Yo, what's up with you?

[Joe Budden]

Move your mailbox.

[Parks]

Yeah, he did you change your mailbox?

[Joe Budden]

Where is that now?

[Ish]

In my.

[Parks]

Can't even lie.

[Ish]

None of your.

[Joe Budden]

You can't even lie. None of your p. I can't go to your house or your mailbox.

[Ish]

Oh, yo, I'm snitching.

[Parks]

Oh.

[Ish]

When you was gone, your man talking about something. He's like, what you doing for. He Somebody about you take a trip for his birthday.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, he did say that.

[Ish]

So. And we making sure that your ass is here for your birthday.

[Joe Budden]

Birthday.

[Ish]

Yo, I could take a birthday trip. It don't gotta be on my birthday. We just wanted to highlight that to make sure to have your ass here.

[Parks]

We telling you it better not be on your birthday.

[Joe Budden]

This.

[Ish]

Yo, I'm telling daddy. No, not telling.

[Flip]

He got the POG app working hard for you.

[Ish]

Word.

[Flip]

You already put his deposit down.

[Joe Budden]

Wear your nude pants that day.

[Ish]

I don't have those.

[Flip]

No, don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

All right, never.

[Ish]

Mind, mind.

[Joe Budden]

Double mind.

[Ish]

My bad, my bad. Go ahead, break and bring your wet platinum.

[Joe Budden]

Crazy.

[Flip]

Y.

[Ish]

What the.

[Joe Budden]

Who else needs our. Our tlc? Who else needs good old advice? Who else needs the good word? Tyler perry from some 50 year old podcasters.

[Ish]

Tyler.

[Parks]

Tyler Perry accusations.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, y' all can take the lead on this one.

[Parks]

I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Because moments like this is why I need Mark.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Flip]

This one. He would do it very. There's been a new accuser. Someone accusing Tyler Perry of sexual misdeeds. An actor.

[Ish]

It's a. It's a actor named Mario Rodriguez. He's seeking 77 million in damages. His complaint accuses Tyler Perry of sexual assault, sexual battery, and intentional infliction of emotional distress. He says Tyler Perry made several advances to him. The last one allegedly taking place in April of 2019. Some of these advances include allegedly grabbing his privates and Tyler Perry's. Stop, bro. I can't even.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead.

[Parks]

Stop that, bro. What's wrong with you?

[Ish]

So Tyler Perry's team put out some information to kind of like debunk all of this.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

They said that what's my guy's name, Mario Rodriguez, would reach out to Tyler Perry as recently as 20, 24. He's having money problems.

[Flip]

He's got some health issues, apparently. If you wish him to find his good health.

[Ish]

Yes, yes. These things.

[Flip]

He thinks that 77 will get him back on the right track.

[Ish]

You mean to tell me for every girl that ever grabbed my ass and cheater.

[Flip]

Oh, you could have got 77. Yeah.

[Parks]

You could have got a dime and some snickers.

[Ish]

Do they have it? Is it some of them that, you know, I mean, might have that 77? No. Oh, my. $77 million. That's what he's seeking. I don't want to be in insensitive. Pardon me. Blessings to that gentleman he's looking for. They're saying this is nothing more than a $77 million shakedown. Again, they got text messages of the guy saying, I'm. I'm having some problems. I need some help.

[Flip]

That doesn't really refute the accusation.

[Ish]

I mean, it can create some doubt.

[Joe Budden]

It got a little confusing to me. We don't know. And in what I researched, I don't know that those texts are from Mario because his first accuser. When Mario's accusation went out, his first accuser then put out some text. So they're saying that these. The sepsis health texts are from the first accuser. I'm not certain that these texts that we have about the sepsis because it came out around.

[Ish]

Well, it's type.

[Joe Budden]

Is the.

[Ish]

Is the first accuser Mexican?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, he has a type. The first. The first look like the second. Hey, the ja.

[Ish]

Said that.

[Joe Budden]

Don'T say J in this conversation.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say J.

[Parks]

The J.

[Ish]

You crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Hey, the jizz said, the first shall be last and the last shall be first. All right. Holy.

[Ish]

Then I.

[Joe Budden]

Then you. Yeah.

[Ish]

If that's the case, I don't.

[Parks]

Cuz they were.

[Ish]

This was reported as these swords.

[Joe Budden]

You nasty bar. Liquid shadow boxing.

[Parks]

Okay, come on.

[Joe Budden]

All right, enough of y'. All. Do y' all think that Tyler Perry is running around. Running around, grabbing at the chamber?

[Flip]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Do y' all think Tyler Perry is running around grabbing dudes by the dick maybe and offering them scripts maybe?

[Flip]

That's entirely possible.

[Ish]

I gotta watch what I say here. I could believe it.

[Flip]

Believe men. Yeah.

[Ish]

I believe the victim. I don't believe. Believe victims.

[Joe Budden]

We'll wait for more facts. There you go. Why y' all such. Second we cut these mics off and walk in the kitchen.

[Ish]

We go, oh, yeah, no, I got you 77 million.

[Flip]

I think both things could be true.

[Joe Budden]

That's where I am.

[Flip]

Yeah. I think. I think that he could be. He might be trying to woo men in a way that may be inappropriate. I also think that people could see that as a. A reason to sue the absolute living out of him for $77 million.

[Ish]

I'm wondering where they come up with these numbers. Not just that if somebody did something.

[Parks]

Somebody run around grabbing your dick.

[Ish]

Yeah, bro. Like, yeah. Everything ceases at that moment. I'm not going to continue to talk to you.

[Flip]

What if the long play is to.

[Ish]

Not have it cease by the time this right and left get the boo bopping on your ass? The long play might be out of my.

[Flip]

Yeah, blow that 77.

[Ish]

You beat 77 million out. Whoa. That was nuts. That was. That was crazy.

[Parks]

You say the grab. You putting his hand.

[Ish]

Tyler Perry grab my penis. I'll punch him in his face.

[Joe Budden]

Ooh, me next. That's me without you.

[Parks]

Go ahead. This thing is gay.

[Joe Budden]

Yo. What's your problem, bro?

[Parks]

Grab it again. Stop playing. Tp.

[Ish]

Use the other hand.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all are. Y' all are disgusting. Stop playing. Y' all are disgusting. And sound.

[Ish]

You call him tv. I'm a good pass for Mexican.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, Tyler Perry. A fish. Yo.

[Parks]

Now that I'm looking at you, you are you.

[Joe Budden]

You are Mario Chalmers. Whatever his name is. N. Rodriguez. Mario Chalmers.

[Ish]

And Tyler got the height on.

[Joe Budden]

And Tyler's taller than you. Oh, yeah. Come here. That dick is.

[Ish]

Is.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, hey. Hey, we rich.

[Parks]

You want me to call you Antoine? I like to call you TW.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I'm saying? Hey, you won't have to buy all them Powerball tickets no more.

[Ish]

True.

[Joe Budden]

And he probably don't.

[Ish]

Nobody got no.

[Joe Budden]

And. And that laser ass is his box. That's his bag, too. That spread them.

[Parks]

Oh. Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Come on. From the bottom.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. All right.

[Parks]

Get off of me.

[Joe Budden]

Get off me.

[Flip]

Calling my lawyer.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I. I expected to hear more from you on this topic because you watch all the Tyler Perry.

[Ish]

I don't watch all the Tyler Perry.

[Joe Budden]

And if you watch any. Listen, I don't watch all Tyler Perry. And I know that some of that shit that he's writing in, executive producing, producing, directing, filming, and casting for.

[Ish]

Let me tell you, there's a thing. And it's. It's known that. But it's more of a anti black woman thing that he has with his writing. That's. That's the clearest day with Tyler Perry's shows, his movies. It's always. It's women say, yo, he definitely got it out for them with Dwight.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

No it's just the opposite. Is the sentiment. What the sentiment is I'm talking about in terms of the character. There's always a. A woman that gotta go through hell and hot hell and back. There's rarely one that's super successful. That or without having to be graped or without having to be essayed or any type of assault or beat on. It's, it's. They always showing women in that. Like there's women that complain about this shit, bro. And so I. And, and, and, and on the opposite side of that is always the rich black man that is doing the graping and the beating and all of that other shit. The successful black man is always the piece of shit. And here comes the light skinned broke man to save the day. Well, that was it adds to the. Yo, you can't be successful in black without being the piece of shit. And if you the lowly broke nigga, then you are the dude that is the savior. So a lot of people look at his shit in that. What if. I mean, all right now. What if there's some truth in his writing? He's a successful black man now. What if he kind of trying to.

[Joe Budden]

Tell us Ish, I love him too. But together they're my least favorite NBA jam team.

[Parks]

I love Ish.

[Joe Budden]

I like Ish and I like him.

[Parks]

I love Freeze.

[Joe Budden]

But they do this. Freeze.

[Ish]

Are you talking about Joe? You just.

[Parks]

Stop.

[Flip]

What the is going on?

[Joe Budden]

Y' all took it somewhere. I wasn't even going. What I'm. What I'm talking about is try to free J. He be kind of. It look, it looks like. And this is from somebody that don't watch that. But when I see it, it looks like some of the gay that's in his imagination playing on the screen. He's like scripting.

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Flip]

He lives his raps.

[Ish]

It's not a lot. It ain't a lot.

[Joe Budden]

Anytime I catch it, it ain't a lot. It be some.

[Ish]

And I've watched a lot.

[Joe Budden]

What's that little football show that used to come on Bet the game. The game like anything when he be in that bay, it look like the gay game. It's a bunch of little. A bunch of Zeus athletes in town, Owls running around. They all cheating on their wives and they kiss in the locker. He got some going on.

[Ish]

I, I don't know. I ain't seen that one.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, I can't wait for all the docs to come out in 23rd. 2030, 2035. In 2035. Y' all think the dot game is lit now.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Some of these is gonna get it.

[Ish]

You shooting high. No, the 2035. The 2037. Quincy Jones.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. You going to tell it all when you think. When you think breeze.

[Parks]

I think it's 2030.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

How about to say 2030. Maybe 2029. 2030.

[Joe Budden]

2033. Yeah, that's when 2033. A lot of your favorites. Y' all getting a dock. And I know, cuz. I'm working on it. 50 ain't gonna be the only out here gonna be broke.

[Ish]

Broken everything.

[Joe Budden]

Telling it prayers for the victims. If there's a victim, Tyler, if there's not a victim. There you go. There you go.

[Ish]

And that's.

[Joe Budden]

That's. That's what I have on that. We'll wait for more details to be revealed.

[Flip]

As always.

[Joe Budden]

That's why being powerful is scary, yo.

[Ish]

Or rich.

[Joe Budden]

Rich and power. That's what I'm saying. If I'm rich and powerful and I'm sitting there, Carbone sitting there looking good like. You.

[Parks]

Come here. Sit down. Right here.

[Joe Budden]

God knew who to make that and who not to make. I would be the rudest gay. Yo, suck my dick.

[Parks]

Yo.

[Ish]

What is wrong with you?

[Joe Budden]

That's why the breadsticks is coming. I got a special breadstick for you.

[Ish]

All right, I'm done.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm just saying being rich and powerful is. I don't. I don't wish it on no man. Man.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That's just.

[Ish]

It's a lot that come with it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God.

[Flip]

Nobody here is watching Stranger Things.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, hold up, hold up. I ain't done cracking on Tyler. Don't you try to move us along. This was the crazy part. He booked homeboy for Boo Medifier.

[Ish]

Well, you know what the role was?

[Joe Budden]

What?

[Ish]

I'll tell you again. It was.

[Joe Budden]

I mean, even without knowing the role, the title, Boo. I bet it wasn't. I bet it was.

[Ish]

He was frat guy number 10.

[Joe Budden]

And that's what I mean about Tyler Perry. Yo, yo.

[Ish]

All right.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I mean about Tyler Perry. We gotta audit BET. Hey, yo, we gotta investigate BET Man, I know Tyler's. No, I know Tyler Slick because whenever.

[Ish]

They put them text messages out on.

[Joe Budden]

On him, he be smooth, yo. Praying for you, my brother. Wish. Wish.

[Ish]

He know.

[Joe Budden]

He know.

[Ish]

Let me know if it's anything I could do.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all ain't got his. The other phone number on that other phone. He in there serving it Let me see you toss it. But on his phone, he keep that. He told that or one of them, cuz I don't know who the text coming from. He told him. You know, I always told you I was a good friend to have in terms of skipping auditions and the casting line. And I always told you that I was a friend in a high place that's pretty good to have in your corner. You don't even say that to no unless you plan on grabbing his dick.

[Flip]

Under the table and slipping him a couple.

[Joe Budden]

Who do you look at? And yo, even if you are a friend in a high place, place that's good to have in your corner, you don't fix your mouth.

[Ish]

You got a point.

[Joe Budden]

You say that I always told you. It's letting you know good friend to have in the corner in case you ever needed anything. And then he always double back with these ass for money. No, they asked for money. You was a good friend to have in high places.

[Parks]

I got sepsis.

[Flip]

I need 77 miles million.

[Ish]

Yeah, you asking for the number too high. That's his problem.

[Joe Budden]

The other problem, the more money you get, the higher that number gonna be. That.

[Ish]

That's it.

[Joe Budden]

77 of them things. Praying for y'. All. Yo, I got mad, mad prayers for all of y' all going through out there. Y'.

[Ish]

All.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all keep the algorithm. Algorithm rhythm in. I'll tell you that much.

[Parks]

They do.

[Ish]

They keep sharing it so it won't.

[Joe Budden]

Be the last one either. Somebody else. Somebody. I don't wish that. I don't wish any of this is true. It would alleviate pain in multiple people's lives. But in the event that it is, it won't be last of it. It won't be last of it. Prayers up a town down. What's next?

[Ish]

Y don't do.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, don't do that. What?

[Ish]

Don't do prayers.

[Joe Budden]

Prayers up a time down.

[Parks]

But DB Yeah, we know what we got it.

[Joe Budden]

We got. Damn.

[Ish]

I. I know that's Usher song.

[Joe Budden]

I'm done with it. All right, what else?

[Ish]

Since we prayers up.

[Joe Budden]

We're giving out advice.

[Ish]

Oh, giving out.

[Joe Budden]

We giving out old podcast and parks advice. What do we got?

[Flip]

Who do we need to advise now?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I don't know. I'm just talking. I wasn't even reading a list. The board.

[Ish]

Oh, no, that's what I'm saying. Since we doing prayers and thoughts for folks. Y want to talk of Anthony Joshua.

[Flip]

You want to take us to SAD real quick?

[Joe Budden]

No, that's dark right off of the. The. The.

[Flip]

I Was going to Stranger Things because.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it.

[Flip]

The first few episodes, I was like, oh, they're kind of putting it together for the last season. Do you know what happened? Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. You know how the dude, like, prays on fear and weakness?

[Parks]

No.

[Flip]

Well, that's what he does.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't know.

[Flip]

No, that's what he does.

[Joe Budden]

Okay, okay.

[Flip]

So the big plan they came up with, or the. The kid that was, like, the main kid that got took in the first.

[Ish]

One.

[Flip]

They'Re trying to figure out how to get the. The dude, the vecna.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Flip]

The kid's gay, man. And that's what he's been hiding. And that's the weakness that this is. This is where they've arrived. Laughed at for the grand finale of the show. The kid is gay. The kid is gay. That's the reveal of the show is the kid is gay.

[Joe Budden]

What? Well, and on top of that, in season one, I knew that these kids was gay.

[Flip]

That's what they landed.

[Ish]

So that. That's. That's, like the big.

[Flip]

Well, there's still one final episode that's gonna happen, but that was the climax. Cliffhanger of the last. Last of this little. Yeah, because they did one part. They broke it up.

[Joe Budden]

Absolutely. Killing.

[Flip]

It's terrible. This is worse than the game of Thrones when the dragon cried and burnt the throne.

[Joe Budden]

This is up.

[Ish]

This is that bad?

[Flip]

This is bad.

[Ish]

Oh, okay. I don't watch that, so.

[Flip]

And it was looking so promising. The last, like, miniseries that dropped in Thanksgiving or whatever it was, was kind of fire. It was like the Christmas. The kid that came out is getting, like, got the superpowers, like. Oh, it was lit.

[Joe Budden]

What's his. Wait, he got superpowers when he came out?

[Flip]

No, but.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I want to ask, but I'm not.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

This has been an absolute show, and they're basing all around this new girl that came. That's on the show. It's horrible. It's the worst I've ever seen in my life.

[Ish]

I'm so glad I ain't watching.

[Joe Budden]

Thank the Lord, I stopped watching this.

[Ish]

I'm so glad I watched this.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

No review of Stranger Things. I have no review of. What? What? They going crazy. Oh, Avatar.

[Flip]

Oh, I didn't see that.

[Ish]

I ain't going to see. I want to see it, though. I'm going to see it. I just watched the. The first two.

[Flip]

I feel like that was, like, very little fanfare for that dropping compared to the last Avatars.

[Ish]

Well, last one was how many years between shows?

[Flip]

So it's a big deal.

[Ish]

But still, they've been running that ad for like six months. Fire and ash or some.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I will go.

[Ish]

I'm going.

[Joe Budden]

I'm gonna go see it. I will see Marty supreme when it hits Apple tv.

[Flip]

I do want to watch that.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not gonna go to the movie theater about a ping pong champion. That's Timothy Shalam, what they're calling his Oscar performance.

[Flip]

They say it's great.

[Joe Budden]

I heard his performance was great. I didn't hear great things about the movie, but I want to see it because homeboy's life. I read up on. Well, damn. What's his name? What's his name? I forgot his name. Name the ping pong player that he's supposed to be. His life just seemed like crazy. Crazy.

[Flip]

It's a. A 24, which I usually like there.

[Joe Budden]

And it's a 24. I am going to check out Marty Mosser. Huh?

[Ish]

Marty. Marty Mosser.

[Joe Budden]

Yes. Yes. Even though I don't know that that was the actual real ping pong player's name.

[Ish]

Oh, that. That's what the movie's based. That's the movie. Okay.

[Joe Budden]

The actual person it's based after. I don't.

[Flip]

It's loosely based on. On someone who's. Who's real.

[Ish]

Got you.

[Joe Budden]

Gotcha.

[Flip]

And I do want to go see it. And I will go see it.

[Joe Budden]

I am going to check that out. Some of y' all fans out there hit me and said that if I can get past the first episode of welcome to Derry, then it does turn into a really great show. Some say I said that up here. Some say, oh, you said that.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Parks was some. Some people say one of the best shows released this year. I'm seeing all the people do their list of top shows of 20, 25. Mostly all of the lists have paradise at number one. Rightfully so. Yeah.

[Ish]

Almost back, baby.

[Joe Budden]

So I did go back and put on episode one of welcome to Derry. I'd be honest. Maybe I'm a weirdo. Episode one just made me want to my girl.

[Flip]

Okay, you're weird.

[Joe Budden]

Like, after that little pregnancy scare and the thing jumped out, I went to pound town. I'm not watching. I rolled over. It was some soft right there. Yeah, I. I couldn't. I couldn't. Yo, girl. Hey. This. These kids.

[Parks]

I didn't give a.

[Joe Budden]

But I am going to try it again. I'm going to try it again.

[Flip]

It does.

[Parks]

It's.

[Flip]

It's a little bit of a roller coaster, but when you get to the end. It was. It was really good.

[Joe Budden]

Let's do it. Mayor Kingstown.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Flip]

Let's go. Let's go.

[Joe Budden]

Mayor Kingstown finale. It happened. If you didn't see it yet, hit the 15 second skip button mad time and maybe we'll get past it. Didn't love it.

[Ish]

Me neither.

[Flip]

Yeah, me either. It was very anticlimactic with the what's my man's name? Callahan. That was very anti clim.

[Ish]

I wasn't mad at that. I just felt like they left too much. I. I felt like this is the episode before the finale and my man.

[Flip]

D. Smoke got poked up. I didn't like that.

[Ish]

Yeah, I like.

[Flip]

I ain't like that.

[Joe Budden]

I like that.

[Flip]

And I didn't like the way that the dude was hopped up out the hospital bed. Smoke the dread.

[Joe Budden]

D. Smoke is Bunny's man that's in jail with the dress.

[Ish]

I know he's talking about shout out to D. Smoke.

[Joe Budden]

You're doing a great job.

[Flip]

Yeah, he is.

[Joe Budden]

And he's.

[Flip]

He's a great artist as well.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

All that.

[Flip]

Yeah, he's fire. I didn't like the dude, the Spanish dude hopping up and stabbing the co dude in the neck. That was dumb as I was.

[Ish]

I said that. I was like, come on. You mean to tell me they ain't check this at all? They didn't have him chained to the gurney and he would have already. Already been patted down for a night. Like, come on. I think the writing on the last episode was rushed. It was horrible. I think they wanted to get two episodes worth of content. They should have just had that last episode be an hour and a half and wrote it better.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I agree.

[Flip]

That may be true.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Like, whatever. The.

[Parks]

The. The.

[Joe Budden]

The. The length of episode is the first thing that threw me off. Like for the finale to be 41 minutes.

[Flip]

And that shootout scene beginning was bogus as hell too.

[Joe Budden]

I just feel like they didn't. They. For the season to be the best season ever. They dropped. They didn't close out anything. They didn't.

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Now I get that's all they did. That next season, from what I'm hearing, is the final season.

[Flip]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Budden]

So you left. You threw it up there to yourself to slam dunk this thing home.

[Ish]

I still think they could have clicked hangered it better going into the next season.

[Joe Budden]

At least I wanted to see more of Frank Moses.

[Ish]

Nah, see, I think they left Frank Moses open. I thought Frank Moses might have got poked up in Kingstown he in the jail already.

[Flip]

Oh right.

[Ish]

I thought they might have poked him out to close. That was part of the deal to close that piece out. Right. I thought Raph and them would have got to him first. So I thought that. I think the way that they did the beef was horrible. That should have been on the yard. That shouldn't have been on the tears.

[Flip]

As soon as they opened the shit after lockdown, they just runs up and running.

[Ish]

Spanish tear the beef. I think that was whack. Raph is the general. You not in the front. Like that was corny.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

The Callahan for me went.

[Flip]

It was kind of insect.

[Ish]

They could have made it better. Yeah. They could have wrote something else better. The Spanish jumping out the window. That was like one of the worst things in the world to me. That was like your fam. You get the dude. It's like.

[Parks]

Like the.

[Ish]

They talk too much. The white superhero movie where they get you. I got you. Like I tell you the plan. I'm kitchen. And then he in there do some fancy break out. Get away. Kill the whole. That was corny. Yeah, that's my. That's one of my main takeaways. They talk too much. Like I don't even think it was that much talking that went into when you. When you got that Spanish dude in there. Even the same thing when. When Frank Moses had. Yeah. Like it's just too much talking. You know what it is? Like even. Even Callahan in like yo dog, kill this and get over with. Nah, the Callahan, he should have got a scolding. I knew he was gonna shoot him in the nuts though.

[Joe Budden]

And maybe I wouldn't feel so bad if you had an idea of when Mayor Kingstown is coming back. But you don't.

[Ish]

You don't.

[Joe Budden]

Don't man. Kingstown go take they sweet time.

[Ish]

This season started three years.

[Flip]

Although last time I think it was cuz dude, Jeremy Renner had all that accident. It might go quicker this time.

[Joe Budden]

Got it. Got it. Okay. Well listen. One episode don't doesn't ruin the season for me. I still think it's one of the best. Probably still the best season that they've ever had. For sure.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's probably for me.

[Joe Budden]

I don't think it's close and I expect full turn up for next season. Shout out to all parties involved with the show. Great show. Great show. And that's right. Get out the way for paradise. You know it. Get out the way. Get out the way.

[Flip]

This isn't really TV stuff, but did you read the article about the they. They found the Zodiac killer and he was also the Black Dahlia Killer. No, some dude, I guess he's. He's a Not a professional detective. He just kind of does on some free time, spare time, I guess. He has autism, so he gets like super duper obsessed. And he used AI and a million hours to crack the code that the dude left. And it tied him to both the Black Dahlia killing and the fucking Zodiac killer. Oh, and he had a whole bunch of experts, like code breaker, scientists, mathematician. Check his work and they're like, no, this is.

[Joe Budden]

This is.

[Flip]

This is it.

[Joe Budden]

They got. They got to close out my paradise point. Episode seven of the Par of Paradise season one still is probably still the best episode of TV to happen in 2025. Oh, fair.

[Ish]

I don't remember the episodes.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, seven is.

[Ish]

Don't worry, I'm watching it again before the.

[Joe Budden]

That's a good idea.

[Ish]

I'm gonna do a run through.

[Joe Budden]

That's not a bad idea. It's word of a serial killer running around New York that nobody really wants to talk about.

[Ish]

Yeah, I saw a bunch of tweets.

[Joe Budden]

I almost don't see how you cannot talk about it. You know, I watch the news every morning.

[Ish]

Yeah, you do.

[Joe Budden]

They are suppressing every week. Weak. No, they telling you where they finding bodies at?

[Ish]

Yeah, they're not saying that it's.

[Joe Budden]

And that's all they're saying.

[Ish]

Are they saying that it's connected?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, they're saying it's the opposite. We don't know that these are connected. We have no suspects. We just finding. We pulled the body out the river. We found the body in here. Spread out over New York. Spread out over the whole.

[Ish]

You do the Burrows or just New York?

[Parks]

The Burrows.

[Joe Budden]

The Burrows.

[Ish]

You think it's the same? You think it's the Syracuse?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I don't. I don't know. I'm not investing.

[Ish]

You said that is a serial killer running around.

[Joe Budden]

No, I'm saying there is word that there may be social media and I still think that that's important to say to the public.

[Flip]

Yeah, it is.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, I don't know that it is. I'm gonna let the police do their job. I'm a tax paying citizen. But it looks weird.

[Ish]

I guess they don't wanna alarm folk if it's like this person was taken from here or this person from here. Maybe they could put a little pattern together to see. Okay, he's targeting these type of. Or he has a pattern to his killing. He has a trademark. He has this and that to be stamped serial killer, not just a bunch of bodies turning up.

[Joe Budden]

True. Good point. Good point. What?

[Parks]

No. Did y' all hear about the. The sleepy stickers? The sleepy stickers? The. In Springfield, Texas, or Spring, Texas, teachers was putting stickers on children to make them fall asleep. And the parents fell.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. So they drugging the kids, I guess.

[Parks]

But apparently that the stickers are made for adults to fall asleep. And a kid came home with the sticker. And they did an investigation to find out that the teachers were putting stickers on the babies to fall asleep in school.

[Ish]

Oh, nah, dawg.

[Flip]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

Spring, Texas. Look it up. It's called.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Sleepy stickers.

[Ish]

Sleepy stickers. They have ingredients. They vary by brand, but common components include calming assistance, essential oils like lavender, chamomile, and sandalwood for aromatherapy patches. While transdermal patches often use melatonin, valerian root and magnesium. It works through the skin. It works through the skin for slow, consistent release to promote relaxation and sleep. Yeah, but don't put that on my.

[Joe Budden]

What? He ain't even know it.

[Parks]

Put that sticker on your kid. Stupid, bro. I wish they would had that when I was a kid.

[Joe Budden]

You need a nap. Get you a sleepy sticker. Now.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Flip]

That is really crazy.

[Joe Budden]

No, I could no a man. I mean, you want a saying, but I can't imagine.

[Ish]

No, I can't imagine.

[Joe Budden]

I don't even know what I would do in that.

[Flip]

In that more than 77 million.

[Joe Budden]

I'd have to turn that teacher into the police.

[Ish]

Yeah, after I turn their collar inside out.

[Parks]

When do you lose your lawsuit?

[Joe Budden]

If you put a sleepy sticker on my kid, then I'm thinking that you down to play like that. So I'm outside of your house at night.

[Ish]

Are we playing? Playing?

[Joe Budden]

If you doing that to my kid. I think you want to play and you got kids. What? No.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, hell no. Yeah.

[Ish]

Nah, that. Nope.

[Joe Budden]

All types of will be in your garage.

[Ish]

No, you want to be in the trunk.

[Joe Budden]

Yo, but hold on.

[Parks]

And I know y' all don't talk about the right wing news, but park said online. Have you seen it? The Minnesota fraud?

[Flip]

I don't like that you're asking me this word.

[Ish]

He tried to play.

[Joe Budden]

Parks.

[Flip]

Did you see Algorithm is.

[Parks]

I'm getting ready to go out there. But the YouTuber Nick that went to Minnesota and exposed all the daycares and all that, The Somalians that have the daycares, that's getting empty. Millions and millions of dollars from. Yeah, from the government.

[Flip]

I'm not hip.

[Parks]

So there's a guy, there's a kid named Nick who went and investigated all the daycares ran by Somalians in Minnesota. Come to find out that the daycares are a rouge. ICE just went down there yesterday and stuff like.

[Ish]

Like that.

[Parks]

And the FBI, the daycare's all rouge. There's nobody in there. They're getting 20 million for saying they have 77 kids the other day. Kids getting 2.7 million for saying they have 16 kids. And he was going around, they was locked. He said, where the kids at? I want to register my child. And every time he opened the door, there was no children there. This shit got over 100 million views right now and shit like this.

[Flip]

I think we should go to our local ratting expert. Ish. What do you say, Nick?

[Ish]

Need his ass whooped?

[Parks]

Why are you.

[Ish]

Mind your fucking business.

[Parks]

Yeah, I was on that side at first, but it's like, nah, you can't. I was on your side at first. Street morale, I swear.

[Ish]

What are you getting the government money, bro?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

So it's okay to rob the government. That's what you understand.

[Parks]

You think that you want Somalia.

[Joe Budden]

We don't know what you think.

[Ish]

I don't with Nick, fam. I don't with Nick. I think that. I mean, don't get me wrong. If you. If you. If you get caught, you get caught caught. You got to play the game. And the rules of the game is you could potentially get caught. But this going down there, snitching on them. What good did that do for him?

[Parks]

18 billion in potential. In potential fraudulent claims. Ish.

[Flip]

18 billion.

[Parks]

Come on.

[Ish]

Billion?

[Flip]

That was taking money out of some people's Trump's pocket.

[Joe Budden]

Pelosi.

[Parks]

No, no, it's higher up like it is the high ups too.

[Ish]

What are we talking about? My. Please.

[Flip]

Art class.

[Ish]

And so you think that investigate and blew that whole up.

[Flip]

He's the welfare.

[Ish]

No, who said he's a problem? I'm saying you said like. I. I didn't say he's a problem at all. I'm. I'm saying this, yo. This world is full of corruption. And if you're not hurting nobody and you getting your one two on. Get your one two on. I ain't mad at everybody else out here stealing from the government or the government officials stealing.

[Flip]

I pay my taxes, bro. Don't take my.

[Parks]

Well, apparently in montclair just now 19.

[Ish]

$19 million got found up missing out the school system. $19.6 million in one of the most affluent communities in the country. Nobody. You know what they go. You know what their potential resolution was? Let's raise property taxes to get the $20 million back. Is we talking about. Bro, that wasn't.

[Joe Budden]

That. That wasn't their only solution.

[Ish]

No, that was their first. That was their first solution. And a judge said, no. That was what the.

[Joe Budden]

The.

[Ish]

The course of action was gonna be. And a judge shot it down and said, no, we not gonna take from the people because y' all mishandled some funds. But their initial thing was, oh, just raise taxes to get the money back.

[Parks]

But apparently the governor, Tim Walls, he's involved in all that shit. Cause he's been. He. He removed the flag of the Minnesota and put the Somalian flag back there. So he been running around with them.

[Ish]

Brett Favre out there too, right? What the fuck is we talking about?

[Parks]

My. I'm just trying to figure out how to.

[Joe Budden]

Wait.

[Parks]

I want to know the operation. I'm freezing. I got to know.

[Joe Budden]

You think you could pull something like that off?

[Parks]

I don't think I'm going out there to investigate that.

[Ish]

Trying to play your mental capacity out.

[Joe Budden]

If you get a babysitter for Junior, the cops come. You can't. Are you crazy? Are you out of your mind?

[Parks]

I was want to see what you thought.

[Joe Budden]

Man. FBA bag.

[Parks]

You ain't saying nothing.

[Joe Budden]

How's this?

[Parks]

What the fba? Yeah, well, they. They feel like if, you know, I don't want to speak for them.

[Joe Budden]

You know what? No one funny when you.

[Parks]

I know. I just saw some people comment that's from the fba, saying that we're letting people come into countries and taking away from us. That's what I read.

[Joe Budden]

Okay. But when you speak to me about the fba, like, you be talking about a group of people, like a group, like a set. And I don't know nothing about that. Like.

[Parks]

No, I understand.

[Joe Budden]

I'm just black in America fighting for, like, our rights.

[Parks]

Yeah, you said you. But you share the same views.

[Joe Budden]

I wouldn't know, cuz I.

[Parks]

That's why I'm here to tell you.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but I would need to vet that some more.

[Parks]

Oh, so you don't trust my word?

[Joe Budden]

I mean.

[Parks]

I mean, what.

[Ish]

Cuz there might be some other views.

[Flip]

You do sneak some views in sometimes.

[Joe Budden]

Bet it. I'll bet it. Ad.

[Parks]

All right, forget it.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else.

[Ish]

What else, what else?

[Joe Budden]

In news y' all don't care about. Mendes has finally come clean. Come clean by what? Mendes is Yandy's husband, Harlem legend, of course.

[Ish]

Of course.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, they've been fun to watch.

[Ish]

I miss.

[Joe Budden]

They've been fun to watch recently. But anyway, anyway, apparently they've broken up and now Mendici's is doing interviews, telling truth, which is if y' all see me out looking inappropriate, it's inappropriate to you because of what you know from television. However, y' all don't know the state of me and her. We're not together. It's clear between us, so there's nothing to report. Yada yada, yada, yada. Okay, cool. Then they asked him, they said, all right, so how is the divorce going? And then he said, well, there's no divorce because we were never legally married. And they said, what, what, what, what? What you mean? And then he said, well, we never signed the papers. It was kind of something that we just did because at the time I was going through my legal battles and blase, blase, blase, blah, pardon me. And that was it. But I mean, that addresses some of the long standing rumors of people wanting to know what's going on with Yandy and Mendez's man, my son, you know.

[Parks]

He move out here like G Unit 03 dopo. Hey, yo, Father, he said that for real, we not making this shit up, right?

[Joe Budden]

No, he said it.

[Parks]

I get your shit off, boy. And I love you, Andy. That's my sister. But you know, they've been trying to see my man outside and. And rat on them, of course. But you letting this hang.

[Joe Budden]

Go ahead, Mr. Both Sides, yo, I'm good at that. Go ahead, Mr. Both Side, yo, get the shit up.

[Parks]

But yeah, no, I do love her. I do love about if. If it's understood between them both, I can support.

[Ish]

Sometimes they.

[Parks]

You.

[Ish]

Sometimes they do that for the public. Like. And Shump did that. It was like, yo, listen, we noticed together so that y' all could stop sending me stuff every time you see him. Cuz that's what was happening. So, yeah, I get it.

[Parks]

Even if ye did her get your.

[Joe Budden]

Over, that's what Kat got to do. What you gotta. Yo, y' all stop sending me stuff. They loading his.

[Ish]

That's why I told you like, yo, you can't. They gonna man anything.

[Parks]

Imagine getting with somebody and you don't check their car facts. You think that this is the perfect thing. And then soon you get with them. As soon as you neck deep, leave.

[Joe Budden]

Me in whatever bubble I'm in, buddy.

[Ish]

It's not even that though.

[Parks]

You can't get with. Hold on, hold on. So when you when you find out the car facts later, does it change your view on the person you okay. What about you?

[Joe Budden]

Hell no.

[Parks]

That's how I know. I know you. Yo, but if you not you did.

[Joe Budden]

What the next time y' all dap, use some of your hand. Don't never do a fingertip dap like that. Come on, bro. Yo, don't.

[Parks]

That don't care about the car facts, man.

[Joe Budden]

Don't do a fingertip dap around.

[Parks]

You just care about carfaxes sometimes.

[Ish]

No, it's not even that he wouldn't be able to find the carfax because just how go you could be dating the Wall Street. He ain't gonna know what them uptown.

[Joe Budden]

Was doing no ish.

[Ish]

And vice versa.

[Parks]

When the carfax come out, it'd be.

[Ish]

You're bugging.

[Joe Budden]

You're bugging.

[Parks]

I know what I'm saying it, bro.

[Ish]

I'm telling you seen it. What if she don't play in that circle where you. Exactly. Exactly. What if she played every circles when you're.

[Parks]

I'm just talking about when you're popular and people can see y' all together. A lot of times information come out. It's a 99 chance it was in that circle.

[Ish]

Yeah, bro.

[Parks]

Circle freeze.

[Ish]

If. If he's pop. Like the girl like. Like it's. The girl is describing and she with all the Wall street banker and was getting ran through. I see what you saying that y' all worlds don't.

[Parks]

So you trying to say a Wall street won't rap?

[Ish]

No. You think that you met this beautiful girl that works down on Wall Street. She's in finance. She's just the epitome of. And she was slide. She was a slide to them. But you uptown, you a dope boy. That don't cross paths with them sometimes might not get to you. Okay, that's all.

[Parks]

Playing.

[Joe Budden]

Your bag. Go ahead. Go ahead. Pimp juice, yo on the podcast got.

[Parks]

Like they pimps right.

[Joe Budden]

These is up here talking cash, yo. With the car factory. Would you look learn. And when you find out yo that.

[Parks]

People. You know what we saying, Joe? You don't care about carfax. Some do. You don't care. But some. Some do.

[Ish]

So let me ask you a question, Flip.

[Parks]

I'm telling you freeze. Ask me.

[Ish]

Take it. I'm taking it. Not you, cuz. You've been married forever.

[Parks]

If my wife had a Carfax that I found out.

[Ish]

All right. I didn't want to say that.

[Joe Budden]

But if that's funny.

[Parks]

What you mean that's funny? Are you.

[Joe Budden]

I'm play with you.

[Parks]

I'm even real. Are you doing that?

[Joe Budden]

No, no, I would never do that.

[Parks]

Look at me, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I would never do that. Yo, go ahead, say it.

[Parks]

If my wife had a carfax, I'm welling you out. No, I don't think I'm be out. No, I don't think I'm be out, man. Married too long. Love my wife. But there a lot of furniture moving.

[Joe Budden]

You.

[Parks]

You what?

[Joe Budden]

All right, I'mma let you ISO. Cuz it's too many openings for great jokes.

[Parks]

So why don't you get the openings out and just allow me to respond as a lot of jokes too for you. Allow me to respond. Get your shit up. Go.

[Joe Budden]

That was a threat, cuz.

[Parks]

You be talking about my wife a lot.

[Joe Budden]

I didn't. No, I don't.

[Parks]

You be shooting at me.

[Joe Budden]

I love you and I love the union of love.

[Ish]

Love that.

[Joe Budden]

That. That you have.

[Parks]

No, you question the union I love. Actually, you tell me to go home. You say I'm outside a lot. And she heard it the other day. Her friends are telling her they watching this. I didn't even know Trinidad's watching. They watching this and they telling them.

[Joe Budden]

All this time she thought you was in the room. I don't want no beef.

[Parks]

Yeah, where did she think he was at?

[Joe Budden]

In the basement or some. She heard it. Y.

[Parks]

What's wrong with saying that, though?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my Lord.

[Ish]

I love my family.

[Parks]

Yeah, get your g. I'll take.

[Joe Budden]

I'm not saying that. I don't even remember what I was saying. Was trying to say. I don't remember where I was going. Anywho.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Flip]

Anyway, any who these was? Erica Kirk. Memes on Twitter, y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Flip]

Yo, this is like the old Twitter.

[Parks]

They got.

[Flip]

They got to do it all types of.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, you see the twerking?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

I ain't see it.

[Ish]

Which one?

[Flip]

You're missing out.

[Parks]

And I know you're getting.

[Joe Budden]

You lying. Oh, man.

[Ish]

That is hilarious. Terrible. Terrible.

[Joe Budden]

If this is a segment to talk about our favorite memes, sir.

[Ish]

Oh, rock out.

[Joe Budden]

Have y' all seen all the memes of a dude saying when you arguing with your girl and then you look over at her dog. Yo, anytime that comes across.

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Budden]

All right, see, now I gotta find it because I hate when y' all didn't see something that's super funny and y' all should have seen it. Like, why is. Why are our algorithms not doing it? It's stupid and ignorant.

[Ish]

Right up my alley.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ish]

I don't know How I see that?

[Parks]

Thank you. Yo.

[Ish]

Holy.

[Joe Budden]

What the fuck is wrong with the Internet? Eric said, I'mma send that to you. Yo.

[Ish]

Yo.

[Joe Budden]

I was laughing at that shit so hard, I almost got in trouble last night. Holy shit. I'm looking at the phone like it would be like that. She like, shut your ass up. What is important? What is not important? Let's see. Serial killer, American Kingstown. We did this. All five Knicks as of right now, are voted to the Eastern Conference All Star team. I'm gonna make some noise for that. I'm talking about the top 20. All five Knicks second in the east, one game behind Detroit. All types of bench players shining. Mike Brown, Mike Williams, whatever his name is. I know it's Mike. Phenomenal job. He's doing so. Cuz he looked like a few. Mike Brown. Mike Brown. Mike Brown look like Mike Woodson. He's doing a phenomenal job. Keep doing whatever you're doing. You're doing great. Also, in news that nobody cares about, Lamar Peters absolutely beat the dog out of Hezi. God. One on one, scored 33 to 3. For you people that are into that, go Google it. It was bad. It was bad. And Lamar Peters is nice. Let's see, let's see. Let's see here, here. Is smoking cigars performative?

[Ish]

Yes. No.

[Parks]

No.

[Ish]

I say yes.

[Flip]

Smoking hookah performative?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Oh. Oh, no.

[Ish]

Yes. No, it's not. How is smoking hookah performative outside of you putting the three pipes in your mouth?

[Joe Budden]

Well. Oh.

[Ish]

Oh, wow. I wasn't trying to shoot. I'm just saying that's performing.

[Parks]

Shoot you with a shotgun in the.

[Ish]

Y' all wasn't trying to do nothing.

[Joe Budden]

Even that look better than no. Shape up. Freeze. Like, you might as well just pull three hookah tips out your mouth right now. This.

[Ish]

How is performative?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Ish]

Because you don't inhale. It doesn't do anything to. It don't do anything. Like when you smoke anything else, you. You inhale with it. I inhale my hookah.

[Joe Budden]

Are you talking about hookah cigars? Both.

[Flip]

You're not supposed to inhale either.

[Ish]

You're not supposed to inhale either one of those.

[Flip]

You still do get nicotine from.

[Ish]

That's what. Why it's. That's why I say it's performative. You're not supposed to inhale either one of those. I remember the first time I smoked a cigar, I damn near died and it was like, no, that's because you inhaled it. You're not supposed to inhale. I'M like, so what you do, you're supposed to taste it. Pause.

[Joe Budden]

Which is familiar area for you.

[Ish]

No, it's not.

[Joe Budden]

You never tasted things.

[Parks]

What's that? Beer.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Parks]

That stopped the forest fire. The beer smoky.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, I'm talking about burn. I know you're not.

[Ish]

Say Berenstein beers.

[Joe Budden]

Bernstein. Berenstein. Beard. That's not the one. That is a beard.

[Parks]

All right, Come up by his eye.

[Ish]

So who put out the fines? Smokey. Smokey.

[Joe Budden]

Smokey. The beer.

[Ish]

And. But yeah, that's why I say it's performative.

[Parks]

It ain't doing his lie. Come in his eye, boy.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, Amani.

[Parks]

Free Light gonna lie.

[Joe Budden]

Imani, you can't sit here and disrupt our bargain. Either you talking on the microphone or you not talking on the microphone.

[Parks]

I said freeze. Bedlock come by his eye. Nigga. That nigga gets a hairy ass, nigga.

[Ish]

Bro.

[Parks]

Bro.

[Ish]

Okay, cool.

[Parks]

You see how the. Look.

[Joe Budden]

Look at.

[Ish]

Look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

[Joe Budden]

No. Freeze should never leave the house like that again. And he came to work on the camera. Don't stop. Still.

[Ish]

Still show up to work, man.

[Parks]

That's a fact. Two days.

[Ish]

You all right.

[Joe Budden]

That.

[Ish]

You flipping that around. That ain't funny no more.

[Parks]

I love the stock, cuz.

[Flip]

He.

[Parks]

He give me.

[Joe Budden]

He going to give me. No, that line going to hit all the way to summer.

[Parks]

Yeah, I know. I'm.

[Joe Budden]

That line gonna hit all the way to the side.

[Parks]

You want drops?

[Joe Budden]

I seen you in commercial.

[Parks]

I see that. You want to see what drops again?

[Joe Budden]

You on the morning show or some. They put you on Atlanta. You with them? Atlanta? I'm with you. You ain't with me.

[Parks]

Oh, it's over.

[Joe Budden]

You ain't with me. Don't speak for me.

[Parks]

Is it over?

[Joe Budden]

Don't speak for me. We don't talk contracts, personal business and pocket work. You don't even do that up here for the 20. 26.

[Parks]

Yeah, make sure. But we two months in.

[Joe Budden]

25.

[Parks]

Yeah, we.

[Joe Budden]

We.

[Parks]

Yeah, you know, I mean, I just also. I just saw a video saying that I don't think Flip gonna be on this much too much longer. I just saw a video.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but don't center yourself about it. Just watch the video and come to work. Got you. Montel Jordan is cancer free. Make some noise. Make some noise. That's a good one. I just thought that was great news. Hell, yes. Absolutely. During the house beating. Prostate cancer. Yeah. Go, go, Montel. Shout out to him or Freed. I thought you'd had a better argument for your smoking cigars. I did inhale. That's it.

[Ish]

It's literally just performative.

[Flip]

You just pulling and blowing and there's flavors.

[Ish]

They buy cigars based on the taste. Like these cigars taste better than with this and with that. Yeah, so buy them like them shits be a thing. Yeah, it's a.

[Joe Budden]

Him even saying that let me know he ain't been around a cigar smoke.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't like that I got introduced to cigars. Buy a cigar aficionado. And that's why I almost died, because I had some. I had no business eating.

[Joe Budden]

What's his name?

[Ish]

Since you bigger Shadow Cinco.

[Flip]

Oh, name drop.

[Ish]

No, he asked me his name. I wasn't going to do that.

[Joe Budden]

He's the one who introduced me to you. Talking about.

[Ish]

No, it wasn't.

[Flip]

Miami Dolphin legend right there.

[Ish]

I wasn't. Yo, but who. I ain't know. I wasn't supposed to inhale my hoopa. You're not.

[Parks]

Not supposed to.

[Ish]

Why? It. It's not made for that type of. That's why they say hookah so bad for your lungs. People that inhale it.

[Parks]

All right.

[Flip]

Like the bullets or some.

[Parks]

No, they. Oh, yo, he's on fire.

[Joe Budden]

Don't even be nut. It just be running. God, leave them alone.

[Parks]

Shut up.

[Joe Budden]

Don't talk to each other no more.

[Parks]

My man's name.

[Joe Budden]

For the rest of this broadcast, we.

[Ish]

Going to wait until Yogi and Boo Boo get into y conversations and we going to do the same shit.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all think we as dull as y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Ish]

Yeah, y' all brightened a couple subjects. And that's it. Both of y' all dumb as.

[Parks]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Y smart.

[Parks]

You why.

[Ish]

I'm talking about. He said y whoever.

[Joe Budden]

It applies to them cigar. Those be. They on the list of the people that I don't want to get a one on one with at the kickback, them pull out the special cigar, the torch. They give you the torch. They tell you what country who hand rolled this cigar. They stand there. It's a culture.

[Ish]

It's a true culture. Culture.

[Flip]

Would you move? I'm not that deep. I like cigars, but I'm not that deep into it.

[Joe Budden]

Nah, I like cigars. If it's a boy who had a baby. Who had a baby. I'm just saying that's when we put. Not cigar smokers.

[Ish]

No, them. Everything is a cigar. Yeah, yeah. It's a culture. It's an entire culture.

[Joe Budden]

And I like a cigar. A cigar lounge during Stanley Cross Cup.

[Ish]

Okay, why the Stanley Cup?

[Flip]

I never did that. But that sounds lit.

[Ish]

Yeah, it does. Why, why the Stanley cup though?

[Joe Budden]

Just because I did it before and it was a blast.

[Ish]

You been watching like while the game was on.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Go. Going to a cigar lounge while the Stanley cup is on where everybody could just smoke and they enter the game. It was. It was blast.

[Ish]

Like, they look at you funny if you don't even know how to. I forget what it's called, but when you use the cutter and cut. It's just a name for it.

[Joe Budden]

They.

[Ish]

They look at you for even knowing how to do that. Lighting a cigar.

[Joe Budden]

You got a hook thumb off of one of them ships. But again, don't play again. Now I got to be the guy to go to the cigar guys. Hey, man, can you cut this for me? It's very embarrassing.

[Ish]

It is.

[Flip]

It could be.

[Joe Budden]

Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Joshua smoke cigar. Peter.

[Flip]

We gotta do Anthony Joshua.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. We have Jesus marriage to.

[Flip]

We had to send our. Our condolences, our love.

[Ish]

Yeah, condolences.

[Joe Budden]

Anthony Joshua the other day was involved in fatal car accident in Nigeria involving a parked truck. They have diagrams floating around the Internet. The driver and Anthony Joshua survived. Anthony Joshua was seated behind the driver in a diagram. And Anthony Joshua's close friends and people that he works with closely lost their lives. Lost their lives.

[Ish]

Two of them.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. Two people. Yeah. It's heartbreaking.

[Flip]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

It's hard.

[Flip]

Especially coming off of a great week.

[Ish]

Your life be full of highs and lows.

[Joe Budden]

It's heartbreaking coming off, like you said, not only a great week, but probably it's the best payday you ever had. Everybody got a raise, y' all trained them, y' all worked them out, y' all stretched them. Y' all been together.

[Ish]

This is our win.

[Joe Budden]

This is our.

[Ish]

This is our celebratory trip. Celebratory trip.

[Joe Budden]

And, and then, then, then it. In the, in the guy stories, like you could see them land in Nigeria. Anthony Joshua posted a pic of them.

[Ish]

Playing ping pong like they was on some terrace. He posted a picture like on a balcony.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish]

Like two hours, hours before the trip. I mean, before the crash. They was just sitting there kicking it like, good. Like how we would be had to kick back or playing spades or just chilling, laughing, joking, arguing about LeBron or some shit. It just, that's what they was on. It's celebratory trip. You just got 100 million plus purse. You just go home to Nigeria just to chill and let your nuts hang and this happens. Like, that's crazy.

[Parks]

Bro.

[Joe Budden]

It'S horrifying. It is horrifying. Lying. It's catastrophic to even think about. I can't imagine what state he's in. Or. A lot of hurt, a lot of pain. Talk about a pendulum of just emotion. And lose not one, but two people.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

That you're close to. Then there's survival.

[Ish]

Survivor's guilt.

[Joe Budden]

Survivor's guilt during the holidays.

[Ish]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

It's real. Prayers out to all of them. Their family. Absolutely.

[Joe Budden]

Word.

[Ish]

Everybody involved.

[Joe Budden]

I don't see how you could ever be the same.

[Ish]

You won't be. Or it'll take a very long time for you to be the same.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And the holidays will always be up forever.

[Joe Budden]

Young guys in shape.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Up financial. Well, at least he was up financially. I don't know how much he shared with his guys, but. And again, you just coming up off the biggest purse you've ever had. The win of all wins. And you won the higher highs, bro. Like, everywhere. It's like a victory lap. Ain't no shirt on since the fight. Like just running around, living happy. And then. Yeah, that was terrible.

[Joe Budden]

I'm sure he's not thinking of how lucky and blessed he is in this moment, but when that diagram got to floating around the Internet, I was like, what are the odds that 6 foot 6, 260, 70 pounds, Anthony Joshua will be seated behind the driver?

[Flip]

Yeah. Word.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

What are the odds of that?

[Ish]

If it was like a Maybach or something.

[Joe Budden]

It wasn't. It was Lexus. It wasn't.

[Ish]

Which one?

[Joe Budden]

I'd have to look it up. But it wasn't. It was a Lexus.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

It was a regular old Lexus. Yeah, that's.

[Ish]

But think about that now. You're right.

[Joe Budden]

That person is never, never sitting behind the driver.

[Ish]

Never.

[Parks]

Alexis suv.

[Ish]

You still not seated behind the driver, though.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. That's. My heart goes out to all of their families. All of their families, loved ones, friends. Imagine even having to deliver that news. Actually, that news broke upon impact, so that means that somebody's family had to learn about it.

[Ish]

That's the scariest shit. If they weren't local. Yep. Yeah, that part right there. Like the way shit happens in with the Internet and you just open your phone and read. Wait, what, like your family or somebody finding out. I think about that shit a lot.

[Joe Budden]

I want to be pretty. I want to be very careful with. With this because it's such a sensitive topic. But what I will say is one of my biggest fears and probably one that. That stops me from traveling as Much as I would like is being in another country or another somewhere and an emergency happened and that place not have the infrastructure.

[Ish]

Or healthcare, the proper tools.

[Joe Budden]

Resources to aid me in a state of emergency.

[Ish]

Like a lot of times people get into real shit in the Caribbean, on some of the islands, they gotta medevac them to Miami. Like I heard a story. Well, somebody had to get medevaced in Miami before because again, some of these countries don't have the necessary resources to treat some of the shit with the efficiency that we have. And that is a scary thing. It's a scary thing.

[Joe Budden]

I've had family, friends that have died places and just that the story and the aid and, and what, what went on and extradition rules about bringing a.

[Ish]

Body, bringing a body back. That's a lot.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, it's. I want to be careful.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Joe Budden]

And it's not a conversation I want to have now because that's not something I'm trying to highlight about night Nigeria or this.

[Ish]

No, not at all. Not at all.

[Joe Budden]

Like, but it is a fear of, of.

[Ish]

Of.

[Joe Budden]

Of mine.

[Ish]

One of the homies we know him, his. His wife got bit by a snake in PA and there she. That was scary. She got bit by a poisonous snake in PA and they had, they were. They were hiking. She got bit by a snake in PA and they had to walk a couple miles back to the car. And he said, yo, they. It was like some panic had started to set in, you know what I'm saying? And he was like, yo, they. They had to go to like a local Pennsylvania hospital. But think about if it was a longer trek or the snake bite would have been more severe and they can't get to you like that right away. That shit is real, bro. Like all of that type shit. But so if you in the third world country somewhere and that's. That happens to you. Yeah, it could get real.

[Joe Budden]

I don't want to deter anyone from traveling and you don't want to plan your vacay around horror and an emergency. But it just is something to keep in mind as you, as you are traveling. Helicopter crash in New Jersey.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

So that pilot died. Footage out. Of course you could see it.

[Ish]

Like, bro, a tree, a tall. Like a. Probably a 30, 40 foot tree fell across the street from my house last night, but it fell across my neighbor's front lawns. Like it stretched three houses just across their front lawns. That's just. God.

[Joe Budden]

Couple.

[Ish]

Couple directions either way. Yeah, a couple degrees this way, it would have fell on three houses cuz. You know how the wind was. The wind's been blowing outside. It's been bugging. Yesterday was nuts. For two days. The trees. Tree fell. She fell in front of my. Right in front of my crib.

[Joe Budden]

But it's a little tree. But wind been blowing like this. And you Spanish chicks are still wearing the one piece spandex.

[Ish]

Man.

[Joe Budden]

That really grinds my gears when. Don't. Never mind. Forget it because we talking about some serious. That's a bad time. This just hit him too. It's brick out. Y' all in a sheen wrestling suit.

[Ish]

Y'.

[Joe Budden]

All.

[Ish]

That don't even matter. I'm talking about. About the ones that don't have no shoes. They got sandals on heels. You got to put a boot on, man.

[Joe Budden]

They not.

[Ish]

They don't care about that. Why y. You can't have your toes out when it's three degrees. You cannot, bro.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Yes, you can.

[Joe Budden]

No, you can. I know hoes don't get cold, but you should. Yo. Put a nice little boot.

[Ish]

She don't have a nice boot. Is they got $40 boots too.

[Joe Budden]

She don't having you go get a nice boot. Yeah, please go get a knife the same way. Guys, you have a black suit. Go get it. Yeah, bro.

[Ish]

This is crazy.

[Joe Budden]

Go get a nice boot. Anthony. Joshua, I love you and I'm praying for you. And rest in peace to his. To his friends that were.

[Ish]

Yeah. Actually the two men who passed away were said to be Joshua's close friends and team members. Cena got me and Latif Lats ayodele the boxers promote a matchroom box and said in a statement that they released that day rest in peace to them brothers.

[Flip]

Rest in peace. Word up.

[Joe Budden]

Could be thinking you right there at the end of the year, right at the finish line making your plans.

[Flip]

It was a great December, bro.

[Ish]

They might have went. They might have went home for the New Year's celebration and been there for the whole. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, it's true.

[Ish]

Christmas through New Year's.

[Joe Budden]

Such as life. Man. You better be ready at all times for a twist and a turn. Again. Yo, we real close to 26. Now's a good time to go ahead and say thank you to whoever you think up there. You got another one in the books. This thing is short and fragile.

[Ish]

Girl, you lookin sweet of God.

[Parks]

You gotta be good. Wish that I could love you by In a special way.

[Joe Budden]

Like my mind.

[Parks]

I.

[Joe Budden]

All right. So excited. Y' all have any end of the year wrap ups? Y' all want to do. You end of the year, year reflective moments. Anything you look back on, looking. Pardon me, looking forward to. Anything you trying to again do different in 26 than 25 things that you hope 26 brings that 25 did not. Anything, anything. I'm sure that in your head while you're alone or while you're in your house, you've had a thought, something you want to get into action, put in motion, something you slacked on. Anything. Just give me. Give me something.

[Ish]

We all are in the gym.

[Flip]

Love it.

[Joe Budden]

Love seeing it down £14. Stop playing with them. Let's go, let's go.

[Ish]

That's good. I don't count nothing until it get to 10. You know, you go up seven this day, come back nine the next day. When you get to 10, that's when I started bragging. But I want to be more physically fit. Just overall, you know, you start getting older, you start feeling that dog. It's different. Like I'm telling y', all, it's different. All y' all in your 40s. This is a different ball game. The more you get up there in age. So I want to start.

[Joe Budden]

Don't say that to me too. January, All y' all in your 40.

[Ish]

Don't say that to me like he out.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Ish]

New 40s. They new 40s. So they still got 30 year old legs.

[Joe Budden]

How old is ice?

[Ish]

I'm 42.

[Joe Budden]

Don't come in here without a shape at the beginning. You 42?

[Ish]

Like what that said?

[Parks]

Are you crazy? Lip.

[Ish]

The barber wasn't here. God damn it.

[Joe Budden]

Y, N. But I didn't know you was 40.

[Ish]

Me and Parks are the same. Me, Parks, and Amani are all the same.

[Joe Budden]

N. That look like that look like this in the face.

[Parks]

That said that. Heavy as.

[Joe Budden]

God damn. I didn't know you were 42.

[Ish]

We're all the same age, guy. Young girl, they do get weary.

[Joe Budden]

Mike, Jack, Mike, Jack, Mike, Jack, Mike, Jack, Mike, Jack. Go ahead.

[Parks]

When this came out, they have raises.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, my God. What were we saying?

[Flip]

20, 26.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, go ahead. You in the gym?

[Ish]

No, no, no. I'm gonna start going to the gym. Like four or five. Four days a week. I'm gonna try to do four days a week instead of. You know what I'm saying? And really start being devoted. How many you go down? Three and then two, then three and then two like that. But yeah, I'm starting to do four days a week.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, that's good for you. I'm about to try that. Zap down. No, you Never. You never. Let's go.

[Ish]

Is that how you lost your £14?

[Joe Budden]

Oh, no, I didn't start it.

[Ish]

Don't start that in my house, please. Well, take it out your house, man. Don't do that. I'm telling you, bro. Don't do it.

[Joe Budden]

It's inspiration.

[Ish]

It's not to look at.

[Joe Budden]

To look at it and be like, nah, I gotta just. Okay, go natty. I gotta go natty.

[Ish]

Yeah, don't. Don't do that.

[Joe Budden]

But I got it. That's that bound. That's that bound commercial.

[Ish]

You might have took that shit, bro. You think he took it?

[Joe Budden]

I didn't take it.

[Parks]

He trying. He trying to prepare. So when he lose weight drastically.

[Joe Budden]

I'm telling y', all, like I told y' all all at some point during the year, if. If I take it, guess where y' all gonna hear from? I ain't gonna have to wonder. I'm coming right in here to tell you I'm on the zip down.

[Ish]

Don't take that, bro.

[Joe Budden]

All right.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, you got it. You down 14 already? Yeah. I wouldn't be a. If you are a diabetic and needed it.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, but I'm down 14 from 240, man. I'm still trying to get the.

[Ish]

It's a work in progress.

[Parks]

Your number, you trying to get.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, probably two. Yes. That's 16 more pounds.

[Ish]

So you could do. Bro, if you lose three, four pounds a month, you.

[Flip]

You did that in, like, six months. You could.

[Ish]

You could. Yeah, just stick money to 14 in, like, two days.

[Joe Budden]

Everything y' all saying is, why did that zap. They keep talking about fast track.

[Ish]

That. That's why.

[Parks]

Man.

[Ish]

Put the work in. You already show. I could see if you was working out every day and like, yo, I don't see no results, then I could understand the mindset of, yo, I might do do that. But you seeing results, so just stick with it. The results continue. Yeah, I can't see that even then. Nah, I'm saying. I understand people saying that, though. Where it's like, yo, I've been busting my ass in the gym every day, and I still.

[Flip]

That means you're not fixing your diet right, though, too?

[Ish]

That is true. Yeah. People don't understand two parts to that. No, the diet is the 80 piece.

[Flip]

Yeah, word.

[Ish]

But if. If you're not a diabetic, leave that alone.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I joke. My trainer all the time, yo, man, this. I'm going to get the zimp.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I ain't.

[Ish]

Don't with that.

[Joe Budden]

What about you?

[Parks]

Freeze.

[Ish]

I' ma look to have a second and third barber on standby.

[Flip]

There you go.

[Joe Budden]

No, that's a fact.

[Ish]

That's at the top of the list. Oh, man. That's the top of the list.

[Joe Budden]

At least some clippers, some shavers.

[Ish]

No, no, no. I'm not touching it myself. All right, I have another one that will work with the razor. Not scared of the razor.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

All right, go. Freeze.

[Ish]

But if you did the like. I'm not you. I'm saying the temporary barber to just line you up with the clippers. Yeah, yeah. He, he, he. That. No, he can't do it. Everybody can't do it, bro.

[Joe Budden]

We got it, big dog.

[Parks]

Thank y'. All.

[Ish]

Talking Thank y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Budden]

I think that's all I got for the year. Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

What a good year, man. Yo, shout out to everybody here. Shout out to. To all the listeners. You guys are awesome, man.

[Ish]

We had a great year.

[Flip]

We did.

[Ish]

I did not see your glazed donut Timberlands. Yeah, I would have lit your ass up earlier.

[Parks]

I saw earlier today I get.

[Flip]

These are the is ass crack.

[Joe Budden]

No, they ain't to do it.

[Parks]

What?

[Ish]

Freshly lasered crispy creams on what.

[Joe Budden]

Right there. Yo, I like them shits.

[Ish]

Yeah, I guess.

[Joe Budden]

All I got is thank you. Word. All I got is a thank you.

[Ish]

Thank you.

[Flip]

Perpetual for real admiration for. For y' all and the listen.

[Ish]

Gratitude.

[Flip]

Yeah, gratitude.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank y'. All. That's separate from thank you, thank y' all and. Yeah. Thank you. The year. The year zooms by. This is again. This was one of my favorite years in podcasting. Just full of twists and turns. Amazing year, man. And new hires and new business and new opportunities and just all of this that you. It's all a roller coaster. It really is all a roller coaster.

[Parks]

It is.

[Ish]

It is.

[Joe Budden]

And the goal is to make every year that for 26 I want to try and get uncomfortable a little bit.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Budden]

I want to try to just getting some new waters. I said that last year and. And made a mild attempt this year.

[Ish]

You want to step further?

[Joe Budden]

I get more into it. It's true.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I'm gonna try some new things this year, too. I'm not sure I have some ideas. I'm not ready to announce anything but try some new things.

[Ish]

I got things not really announced, but.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, 26 should be all of the things. Yeah, it should be all the things.

[Ish]

It's going all in there.

[Joe Budden]

That's what I got.

[Ish]

That's how I got feel.

[Joe Budden]

I'm going.

[Ish]

I keep seeing not make it. Yeah, I just. I just want to go all in.

[Joe Budden]

26 and coming to your house, man.

[Ish]

I'm moving. Just God damn will move. That's a whole said I'm moving. I don't even know.

[Joe Budden]

God willing I new to family. All right. Where you going?

[Ish]

Somewhere is expensive. They going to Montclair somewhere.

[Joe Budden]

Single family.

[Ish]

I live in a single family. Now is your problem.

[Joe Budden]

Wait, I didn't know.

[Ish]

Stop trying to be funny.

[Joe Budden]

I never been to your house.

[Parks]

You can't.

[Joe Budden]

I house shame the house guy. I'm not house shaming. I didn't know a nothing wrong with a single family. When you. You said what word? Y' all think I'm shaming single family?

[Ish]

No, he said, oh, you move into another two family. He was trying to be funny saying that I live. Yo, who you think you talking to? Who the you think you.

[Joe Budden]

Which bell is yours? Oh.

[Ish]

Oh.

[Joe Budden]

Is it the bell? You know, weren't writing their names on the bell. You got it. Just yours, dog.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

You're an idiot, bro.

[Parks]

You get a new house. Plan on getting a new house? Yeah. Bigger.

[Joe Budden]

Of course.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't have no choice there can be smaller.

[Ish]

He can't go swallow.

[Joe Budden]

You have another baby?

[Ish]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Yes, you are. You get another dog. Oh, why is cuz the way he said? I ain't got no choice.

[Ish]

My house too small for me? No, it's too small. I think we cracked the code.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

Congratulations.

[Ish]

We going to congratulate you anyway. We love you. Can we come to the baby shower this time? I'm. I'm not having another baby anytime soon.

[Joe Budden]

Ran out of room for all them coats. Too many coats. Clothes, shoes, sneakers, all that, you know?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Budden]

I ain't shopping no more.

[Ish]

That different. It's New Year's Eve. I'm trying to clean up. And that is just overwhelmingly.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah, bro.

[Ish]

It's just a lot. I'm giving bags. I'm talking big ass, tall bags of away. But make sure he don't just be outside doing. With your clothes on. Cause you'll be mad. Nah, I ain't giving it to them no more.

[Joe Budden]

Flip was your last words for the year?

[Ish]

Oh, man.

[Joe Budden]

Anything. Anything inspirational to get to people. All right.

[Parks]

He could do that. Of course he gonna do that. He's gonna eat it. Here's the thing. Just stay focused, man. Change your surroundings. I was talking about that earlier.

[Joe Budden]

You know what I mean?

[Parks]

Just looking around and cleaning up what's around you and, you know, take more opportunities. I do agree with him. Step outside your comfort zone and Try to, you know, master your craft even more, no matter where you, you know, what position you put in. So I, you know, I'm with you on that.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I love you, bro.

[Joe Budden]

I love you, too. Yeah, I love you guys.

[Flip]

Love you all.

[Joe Budden]

Love you.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Joe Budden]

Thank you. Thank you all, man.

[Parks]

Yeah, well, I don't know. Where would we be without you, y'. All.

[Joe Budden]

Listen, man, it's people partying tonight.

[Parks]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Budden]

These people shake ass tonight.

[Ish]

Not I, the house.

[Joe Budden]

Well, we knew that.

[Ish]

Well, you didn't know that.

[Joe Budden]

No, we did. No, we did. That face ain't showing up to no ballroom dance like that. You see, I ugly as hell.

[Parks]

Leave him alone.

[Joe Budden]

No, why do you talk about whatever yummy some of y' all is, putting y' all good outfits, your good shoes on, driving across the bridge or going somewhere sexy. Shout out to y', all, it won't be me. Shout out to those of us that'll be in the crib just chilling. Hey, wait a minute. Nervin them niggas to make this an interlude. Hey, Yo, wherever you at, please be safe. Please, please be safe to go Drink and drive the Go. Yo, ain't nothing wrong with calling the Uber at all, calling a lift. There's not nothing wrong with any of those things. Don't drink and drive. Get yourself home safe and don't be a threat to anybody else. This on the road. Please, please, please. Shout out everybody. I be at the after. Won't be me. It won't be me. My aftery's day is over. Chick told me she was at the afters the other day. My dick got softer. I can't even. I can't even. I can't listen to none of that. I'm 40. Be 46. It's over, man. Shout out to y' all that got y' all New Year's Eve hats on. On. What's the. The blower shits.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Noise maker. The. All of that. Good. Shout out to those of y' all that went to Times Square, y' all out in traffic.

[Flip]

Couldn't be me.

[Joe Budden]

That's dope. Nope. Couldn't be me.

[Ish]

Never.

[Joe Budden]

Those of y' all that just kept a dope light, little dinner, something like, you put your good clothes on, took a couple of pictures, now you're in the house with it. Whatever you're doing, man, just please be safe. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Shout out to that January February wave of New gym members that we will see across the nation. You already know it.

[Ish]

Yeah, but for two weeks.

[Joe Budden]

Oh, man. Until next time, we bid you ado farewell. Adios to Riba Dirchi Asta la vista. Au revoir. So long. Goodbye or simple head knob will suffice, man. Until the next time. Hey, wait a minute.

[Parks]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Wait a minute.

[Parks]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Happy New Year to our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, here with us in spirit.

[Ish]

Spirit.

[Joe Budden]

Shout out to our good sister Demona, we love you. Here with us in spirit indeed. Y' all hold it down, man. We got another year on the way.

[Parks]

Ego. Name.

[Ish]

I feel that in my heart when you call my name.

[Joe Budden]

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1st, 2. Yeah, I mean, just some of the slaps. I might want to get a shake in the tail feather. Too late on.

[Parks]

Hey.

[Joe Budden]

Wait up.

[Parks]

Hey, wait a minute. Wait.

[Joe Budden]

Y' all hold it down, man. Hey, fellas, be a gentleman. Body lady a drink. Yeah, why don't you be a gentleman for one night either? Yeah, man. No, no.

[Flip]

From the rail. Get her something by a name.

[Joe Budden]

Yeah. No, no name.

[Flip]

Vodka. You know what I mean. The rum and Coke, yo.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Budden]

Tell your. Yo, tell your bartender to reach up top shelf tonight.

[Flip]

At least medium shelf tonight.

[Ish]

No, it's New Year's.

[Joe Budden]

Come on, man.

[Ish]

Actually, tell them bringing a bottle.

[Parks]

Need me.

[Joe Budden]

Until next time. Y' all hold it down out there.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Budden]

Happy new year. You've never. You've never heard of joe, buddy. Happy new year, y'. All.