Episode 895 | "A Spirited Conversation"

Summary

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The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 895 | "A Spirited Conversation"

Date: January 17, 2026
Host: Joe Budden with Mark Lamont Hill, Ish, Ice, Parks, Mona, and others
Length: ~3 hours

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Main Theme / Purpose

This episode celebrates Ish’s 50th birthday with a lively and often hilarious discussion about aging, life perspectives, relationship dynamics, and current music releases. The crew reflects on turning points in life, shares personal growth stories, and delves into the week’s hot topics: new music from J. Cole, A$AP Rocky, and Wiz Khalifa, viral moments online, and the complexities of modern relationships. The usual mix of roasting, real talk, and musical analysis blends into what Joe describes as “a spirited conversation."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ish’s Birthday: Aging & Reflection

• Roasting and reflection: The crew playfully roasts Ish for turning 50, referencing AARP and Denny’s discounts ([00:50]).
• Celebration of milestones:
  • Ish: "For all of us to be up here is a blessing, but to reach 50 years, it's an accomplishment." ([02:20])
  • Discussion on losing people in their 40s — gratitude for longevity.
• Aging in hip hop:
  • They note legends like Hov (Jay-Z) aging, with Joe lamenting, “Hov is almost 60? Damn.”
  • Reflection on prioritizing life and appreciating every summer left.

2. The Value of Conversation & Mental Health

• Podcasting as therapy:
  • Joe: "I appreciate you brothers for giving me the ability to just talk." ([04:30])
  • Mark: “I’d be alcoholic if I ain’t get to talk for a living.” ([04:39])
  • They joke about their possible “mailman” or “alcoholic” alternative lives.
• Dealing with stress and spirited household debates: Mark shares a story of late-night solo bar visits after an argument at home, sparking jokes about “spirited discussions” ([05:12]).

3. Life Updates: Trips, Property, and Meet-and-Greets

• Mark discusses a work trip to Tennessee, property hunting, and women being bold at meet-and-greets ([10:31]).
• They riff on bold fans, market research, and the podcast’s Reddit audience ([22:06]).

4. J. Cole—Release, Double Albums, and Hip-Hop Commentary

• Full review and lyric breakdown of J. Cole’s new track, possibly from an upcoming double album ([23:19] and throughout 23:39–44:50]).
  • Notable Breakdown:
    • Parks: “He had the ASR drum machine in there. That's pretty fly.”
    • Joe, on the ‘so-called kings’ lyric: “In what world is so-called not a shot?” ([30:45])
    • Mark: (on double albums): “You raise the degree of difficulty considerably. ...Biggie did it. Wu-Tang did it.”
  • General agreement: Cole has the talent for a double album, but it’s always a risk.
  • They discuss the craft and legacy of double albums, referencing classics (Biggie, Wu, Pac, etc.).

5. Music Roundup: New Albums & Notable Tracks

• A$AP Rocky’s new album: Initial skepticism overridden by surprise at the album’s energy and quality ([53:09-56:14]).
  • Mark: “There's some real good rap on here.”
  • Mention of perceived Drake disses and club-centric production.
• Wiz Khalifa’s ‘Chaotic’:
  • Praised for strong rapping and production. Mixed feelings about certain features ([62:02]).
  • Mark: “That’s an album you want to be driving down the street listening to.”
• Chris Brown & Gunna’s “Whole Lot” remix:
  • Discussion of its appeal in clubs & relationships, and light joking about fan reactions ([68:14–72:11]).
• Shout-outs: Brief nods to other releases and music video production.

6. Viral Debates: Anton Daniels & Corey Holcomb Podcast Clash

• Play-by-play analysis of the heated exchange ([90:06-113:32]):
  • Mark: “Anton didn’t come off bad to me. He stood his ground.”
  • Debate on what constitutes disrespect, the difference between content and real beef, and the spectacle of "furniture moving" on camera.
  • Mona: “You can't say to a Black man, you suck a dick. ...someone will clear you for that.”
  • Joe: “It’s another example of two niggas I would’ve loved for them to fight.”
  • Consensus: The clash made for compelling content but also highlighted generational and maturity differences.

7. Relationships, Marriage, and Dementia

• Jay Leno’s caregiving for wife with dementia prompts a debate:
  • When is it okay to seek a new partner during spousal illness?
  • Mark: “Some people feel like, if I am so out of it… I don't want you to be without companionship.”
  • Mona: “If you really love her and she's going out that way, I don't think you would even be fast to go get somebody else.” ([122:46])
  • Broader reflections on marital vows, changing divorce trends, and caregiving burdens.

8. Step-Parenting & Blended Family Dynamics

• Listener 'Vanessa' writes in asking if her stepchild should call her ‘mom’ ([169:55–176:44]):
  • Crew consensus: Kids should call step-parents by first name or "Miss/Mr.", let titles develop naturally—not be forced.
  • Mona’s strong take: “You're a glorified babysitter… step-parents can't get close to the kid until the kid chooses.”
  • Personal stories from the cast about navigating blended families.

9. Social Media & 2016 Nostalgia

• The “2016 Challenge” trend leads to a reflection on why that year carries such weight:
  • Mark: “2016 may have been the best year of my life… that was before Trump.”
  • The group reminisces about pre-pandemic normalcy and a “better vibe” in music and life.

10. Current Events, Conspiracy Theories, & News

• Space Missions: Doubts about the moon landing resurface.
  • Ice: “I don’t think we put men on the moon. Ever.”
  • Joe: “Some conspiracy theories we gotta grow out of.”
  • Jokes about Stevie Wonder’s vision.
• Outage News: Verizon outage and phone company rivalries ([138:55]).
  • Joe: “When the news break of the data leaks, I’d be like, damn. And just keep scrolling.”
• Jim Jones' Studio Power Outage:
  • Playful ribbing about 50 Cent trolling Jim Jones for losing power in his studio ([141:03–143:16]).
• Viral TikTok Divorce: Analysis of a popular TikTok couple’s breakup ([161:04]).
  • Cheating, emasculation, and performative relationship culture on social platforms.

11. TV & Streaming Roundup

• His & Hers (miniseries): Debate over plot twists and who-done-it conventions ([146:49–151:58]).
  • Most found the ending unsatisfying but the ride entertaining.
• Other Recaps:
  • Mixed reviews of “Mr. & Mrs. Smith,” “Power Force,” and the new “Heated Rivalry.”
  • Mark: teases a group outing for “Heated Rivalry,” a hockey series with a gay storyline.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Aging, Gratitude & Real Talk

• Ish ([02:20]):
  “Coming from where we from, you blessed. I lost people… a bunch of people this year… So for all of us to be up here is a blessing, but to reach 50 years, it's an accomplishment.”
• Joe ([04:30]):
  “I appreciate you brothers for giving me the ability to just talk.”
• Mark ([04:39]):
  “I'd be alcoholic if I ain't get to talk for a living.”

J. Cole Lyric Dissection

• On ‘so-called king’ line ([30:45]):
  Joe: “In what world is so-called not a shot?”
  Mark (later) ([36:07]): “I know Cole smart enough to know that so called is going to have people talking.”
• Parks (about the video) ([26:26]): “He had the ASR drum machine in there. That's pretty fly.”

Relationship & Marital Loyalty

• Mark ([122:13]):
  “Is this what drove you to the McAllen's?”
  (On Jay Leno’s situation)
• Mona ([127:24]):
  “In 26, are y' all still honoring all the shit y' all said in the wedding? Every part of it…”

Cultural Commentary & Real-Life Moments

• On trolling and the internet ([45:46]):
  Joe: “Ice used to be such a shithead, yo. Online. Anyway, his digital footprint nasty covered in…”
  • Discussion on (not so) harmless trolling and the effects of “fake persona/real persona” lines.

Core Values & Growth

• On Apologies and Growth ([119:21]):
  Mona: “It is important to apologize when you're wrong. It makes you intelligent. Intelligent people make mistakes and learn. Idiots stand on it.”

Podcasting as Therapy

• Joe: “If I ain’t do this for a living, boy, I would be one angry mailman.” ([04:02])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Topic | Timestamps | |---------------------------------------------------------|--------------------| | Ish’s Birthday, Aging, Reflection | 00:49–04:43 | | Podcasting/Life as Therapy | 04:30–05:30 | | Mark’s “spirited” discussion; Bar stories | 05:12–08:07 | | Real Estate, Meet & Greets, Fan Encounters | 09:00–12:00 | | Deep Dive: J Cole lyric breakdown & double albums | 23:19–44:50 | | A$AP Rocky Album + Drake “disses” | 53:00–56:14 | | Wiz Khalifa, Max B, & More Music | 62:02–67:13 | | Chris Brown/Gunna remix “Whole Lot” / Club banter | 68:14–72:11 | | Anton Daniels vs. Corey Holcomb Podcast Debate | 90:06–113:32 | | Relationship: Jay Leno, Caregiving, Dementia | 121:24–127:19 | | Step-parenting/Listener Letter | 169:55–176:44 | | 2016 Challenge & Social Media Nostalgia | 154:49–160:13 | | Modern Relationship, TikTok Divorce Discussion | 161:04–168:41 | | TV/Streaming Recommendations | 146:49–153:39 |

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Tone & Style

• Language: Playful, direct, NSFW at times, heartfelt when pivoting to real topics.
• Tone: Roasting, introspective, warm camaraderie; quick to veer into comic relief.
• Format: Loose, conversational; structured musical and cultural deep-dives.

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Final Thoughts

This episode exemplifies the Joe Budden Podcast’s strengths: insightful hip-hop analysis, irreverent humor, personal vulnerability, and meaningful group therapy. It’s a tapestry of Black culture, aging, music, internet antics, and relationship wisdom—anchored by a genuine birthday celebration and the unpredictable energy of old (and new) friends.

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Notable Quotes for Quick Reference:

• “If I ain't do this for a living, boy, I would be one angry mailman.” (Joe, 04:02)
• “You can't say to a Black man, you suck a dick… some people will clear you for that.” (Mona, 95:03)
• "Once that distance is created [in a relationship], guess what's happening? ...Another bitch." (Joe, 168:32)
• "You're a glorified babysitter. That's what step-parents are. Until the kid gets close to the step-parent, the step-parent can't get close to the kid." (Mona, 173:13)
• “2016 may have been the best year of my life. That was before Trump.” (Mark, 157:04)

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Summary prepared for listeners who want the highlights, humor, and community of TJB without missing a beat.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I'm not letting y' all lie on my man on his birthday. I'm not letting that happen.

[B]

Nah, no, not today. No.

[A]

Y' all know of all people, I'm down to lie on ish. But not today.

[B]

Not on his birthday.

[A]

364 days of the year. Maybe and a half, depending what time we get out of here. How y' all doing, man? Feeling great. Good, good, good.

[C]

Should we sing Happy Birthday to ish?

[A]

Come on, please. Don't know, man. Even looking a little older today. Nah, for real. Why? You look a little more mature.

[B]

Yo, you stupid.

[A]

Like on some, like, awesome. Your demure levels is like on a thousand right now. With the all black too. On some 50 humble quarter zip hoodie.

[B]

Still young, I mean.

[A]

Oh, but I'm young forever.

[C]

You gotta be young in this rattle.

[A]

This stupid young at heart.

[B]

This guy's nuts. What up, man?

[A]

Nothing, man. Good to see you folks. Happy birthday, man.

[D]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Happy birthday.

[E]

Happy birthday, man.

[A]

Happy birthday.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

How you feeling, man?

[B]

I don't know many.

[E]

You know you're officially eligible for AARP now.

[C]

Congratulations.

[A]

He was proud of you. Already getting it.

[E]

Scamming ass.

[B]

Scamming ass.

[E]

You been getting on the bus for half price.

[A]

He definitely was getting it all since 24.

[E]

Getting his Grand Slam breakfast.

[A]

24 year old.

[B]

Get your Grand Slam discount, Denny's.

[E]

Yeah, it's that time, dog. You get on the bus half fries.

[A]

You look like a Denny's ass. Name.

[B]

Not me.

[A]

You're a fool, bro. What's up, man? Start us off, man. Start us off in prayer or some shit. What old niggas do?

[B]

I don't know. I wouldn't know.

[A]

Set us off with how you feel? How you feeling today?

[B]

I'm cool.

[A]

Nah, not at 50. I waited four and a half hours.

[B]

Stop cutting me off, bro.

[A]

All right, My bad.

[E]

He's the elder in the room. Let the elder speak.

[A]

Yeah. Nah, he never even said that to me before.

[B]

Right on some old school yo again. Yo, coming from where we from, you blessed. I lost people, a bunch of people this year in the last couple years, so, you know niggas that was in their 40s. So for all of us to be up Here is a blessing, but to reach 50 years, it's an accomplishment.

[E]

No, it's Beijing.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

You the oldest nigga I know.

[A]

Now you and Cory the oldest.

[E]

I know.

[B]

I'm serious.

[A]

Shut your dumb. Yo, you a fool, yo.

[B]

This an idiot, bro.

[A]

I know. We getting old. My barber said some shit the other day. He was like, yeah, hov. Almost 60, right? I was like, nigga, no. Shut up. Yeah, hold on. I said, wait a second. We had to Google it. Sure enough, 56, 57.

[E]

Yeah. Be 57 again, bro.

[A]

Puff, that's almost 60.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

No more Puff's name in the first 90 minutes of the pause.

[B]

I'm just saying, niggas that they was running around when we was kids. They older.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

It was popping 30 years ago, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That 50 and 60 shit is dangerous, nigga.

[B]

Hard knock. Life was 97, bro.

[A]

You get home, start doing math. It's not far off, like. Yeah, I got 11 more summers in this motherfucker. Gotta turn it over. I gotta live.

[B]

Got to.

[A]

And your girl in the background running up. Oh, why? Why? Oh, that boy, yo. What boy?

[B]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Your girl don't even know that you stressed about dying. They talking about laundry, dishes or errands. Shut up. Telling you. All right, man, that shit different, nigga. Good to be here with y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

If I ain't do this for a living, boy, I would be one angry mailman.

[B]

You want your 49th hour, boy?

[A]

I ain't going front. I'll be the mailman with the blicky on me, man. Stolen they shit. Oh, my God. Cause where you gonna be about your. Where you going?

[B]

Got take it out on your 49th album. Telling you, you pumped it up, pumped it down, sideways.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Telling you.

[A]

Yeah, that don't get said enough up here. I. I appreciate you brothers for giving me the ability to just talk.

[C]

Likewise.

[B]

Same, bro.

[C]

Likewise.

[E]

I'd be alcoholic if I ain't get to talk for a living.

[A]

Oh, my God. Word.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably so, for sure.

[E]

What would you do if you went.

[A]

Bottom shelf shit, too?

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Bacardi Mark.

[A]

Could be an alky off the Bacardi.

[E]

Yo, I drank McAllen. Yo, I went to the bar last night at like 2am by myself.

[B]

1:15 in Knoxville.

[A]

By yourself?

[E]

I landed at 11. I got back home at midnight. I was at St. James Gate in Maplewood.

[A]

Yo, you could talk into the mic, my brother.

[E]

My bad.

[B]

You ain't gotta tell Ish what time she Thought you landed.

[E]

Oh, no, I went home first. My wife went to bed. We had a spirited discussion. We had a spirited discussion. And I went out for. To get a.

[C]

Oh, that's some old.

[A]

School shit right there. The old ball and chain got me tight.

[E]

I'm going to go take a drive.

[B]

That's spirited conversation.

[E]

I was like, let me go take a drive.

[C]

I need a scotch.

[E]

Well, I went to the bar, and I was. First of all, I played myself because I was wearing a JVP hoodie.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[A]

What a jerk.

[E]

I wasn't thinking. I got. It's like, I don't wear jbp. It's like fraternity stuff. I don't wear it because I don't want people.

[B]

People to walk up to me and it's a conversation.

[E]

Please have a conversation about it. I can at least pretend because people ask me, like, I don't know, jb. Nah, I just look like him, right? That's all. It's all, this guy on TV have a haircut, you know? So I get there, and I was about to order my Bacardian coat, and I had your voice in my head.

[B]

Time out. Time out. You went and gave the speech in Knoxville with no haircut?

[E]

They don't pay you more for a haircut?

[B]

Give them niggas they money back.

[E]

I legit slice it. Oh, well, no. What?

[A]

That's his fake educator look on some Eric Bennai.

[E]

Well, hope you don't get a haircut. He said, I'm in my album mode. All y' all be on his dick. But when I go outside, he's in the studio. You outside?

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yo, that's crazy.

[E]

I couldn't get my haircut on Monday. Cause something happened with my barber or something. I don't know. Some happened. I was.

[A]

You and Ice Be had all types of barber issues.

[B]

My barber just put things.

[A]

Plan B, bro.

[B]

You could have called me, but I.

[E]

Know you know Plan B.

[B]

Oh, you.

[E]

Should have stocking them motherfuckers, man.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

I ain't slept in three days, dog. I got Lars being an asshole. Just mean vibes.

[D]

Oh, man.

[B]

You went to the bar.

[E]

So I was like, if I order Bacardi right now. I was embarrassed. Y' all embarrassed me. I ordered McAllen's 12.

[A]

Bullying works.

[C]

Yeah, bully works.

[E]

I ordered McAllen's 12.

[A]

He ordered a 12.

[E]

Wait, look, that wrong, too.

[B]

You ordered a 12?

[A]

12'S not bad, Mark.

[E]

It was what was right in front of me.

[B]

Yo, fam, you cannot order a 12.

[A]

Did they have anything else?

[B]

Nah. 12's not bad, man.

[E]

When I walked in, I saw. I saw Bacard.

[C]

It's better than, like, doers or some shit, right?

[E]

And I looked right in front of me, and it said McAllen's 12. I didn't ask for nothing else. I mean, I actually have a decent collection of liquors.

[B]

When you looked to your.

[A]

To the left or right of the.

[B]

Bottle, did you see some other numbers?

[A]

Did you see any other numbers?

[E]

The 12 was in front of me. It was 1:26am I wasn't really worried about the flavor.

[A]

And that spirited conversation was whipping your ass still.

[E]

Oh, that sent me the choker, whole bit.

[B]

What was up there?

[E]

I drank MD20. 2018.

[B]

You got the 18, mama. Man, give me some unle.

[E]

It don't matter. Do it really matter that much to y'?

[A]

All?

[B]

Yeah, Yeah, a little bit. But maybe coming off top of conversation. Yeah, maybe not.

[E]

At the house. Yes. I wouldn't serve nothing that I. You know what I mean? But at the. At the.

[C]

I'm just proud of you for not getting the Bacardi personally.

[E]

Thank you. It's growth.

[A]

It's growth.

[E]

It's growth.

[C]

It's a step in the right direction.

[A]

And you had just. Cause I'm. Pardon me. I gotta catch up. I'm slow this morning. You had just landed and then had the spirited conversation.

[E]

Oh, yeah. I landed at 11, got home at 11. 40.

[A]

Educator. Beef educator.

[E]

Your data set is not correct.

[B]

Two PhDs, little 14 letter words, just flying.

[A]

Yo. What? You was out there. You was out there educating. Ooh, I'd love to hear that conversation. Yeah.

[E]

No, it wasn't. It wasn't the educated conversation. It wasn't like, no big deal. We good. It just was one of them spirited convos you have sometimes.

[A]

I get it, you know. Sure. Well, I'm glad you made it.

[B]

Tennessee Volunteer. Volunteering.

[C]

You didn't cut the camera on for that one, though.

[E]

Nah. You know, that won't make the pod.

[A]

No. Aw, darn it.

[E]

You know what, though? It just sucks. Right? That's what it's gonna take.

[A]

So you were in Tennessee and off. My issue with saying you were in Tennessee at some point, I wasn't listening.

[B]

Yeah, I was for a week.

[C]

Somehow, even though we see him last year.

[A]

Look, it's called regular old Arrested Development.

[E]

How you end up in Tennessee for Knoxville for a week.

[B]

I went out there looking at some property, and the answer is in the question. I must have missed it. But, no, I was out there on some.

[E]

Looking for scouting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Talking to Mike, some shit. Looking at Some shit.

[A]

You went to Knoxville to interview some. To interview people?

[B]

No, Looking for some property. I was looking at some. Some shit to buy.

[A]

Oh, like you need to see it in person. Like you've seen it on Zillow already.

[B]

You ain't right.

[A]

How long that takes?

[E]

Two hours?

[B]

Couple days.

[A]

Did you make. Did you make the purchase? No, still thinking right. Probably gotta see it again.

[B]

Numbers ain't make sense.

[A]

At least.

[E]

Told him two more times. Probably make sure it's right.

[A]

Probably got it out there.

[B]

Couple of times.

[A]

All right. My question.

[B]

Get a different assessment.

[A]

My question to anybody who wants to answer is out there, it's everywhere.

[B]

Everywhere. It's a major city in the United States. You ain't seen that, right? Your brain don't register all those chromosomal differences. Yo, that's Beauty was whipping his hand. He's gotta be careful.

[A]

He got him.

[E]

He got him. Shell shocked, dead ass. I didn't. I flew out at 6am, got there, I spoke at noon. And I was on a five o' clock flight back. I literally went nowhere. But the airport, the campus.

[A]

That don't sound like the first time.

[C]

It started a little iffy, but he cleared it up.

[B]

How long did you speak?

[E]

About 35 minutes. It went well.

[A]

Oh, that's where the trouble lie.

[B]

It went well.

[E]

About 500 people showed up. It was a great speech. Shout out to University of Texas. I mean, University of Texas, Tennessee, Knoxville. Great, great, great time.

[A]

Get it right, buddy.

[E]

And all the people out there, apparently there were men and women. I don't even see gender. So it's a construct. So I don't know who was in the line. I don't know who asked for pictures.

[B]

It's a construct.

[E]

I don't know none of that. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

What up?

[A]

There's that silence.

[B]

You had a meet and greet?

[E]

Yeah, had a little meet and greet. One woman did walk up. Yeah, she's Maddie. She walked up and said, give me a card. I said, I don't have a card. She said, give me your phone number. I was like, no. She got mad at shit and stormed off. People be bold in meet and greets now.

[C]

Yeah, but, you know, that's all she asked for.

[E]

I don't even remember, man. I was so busy.

[C]

I'm with you.

[B]

No doubt.

[E]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Something woke the spirit too.

[C]

Let me teach you. Had to go find some spirits.

[A]

Something walking spirits, though. But it's okay. It's okay. I'll wait. I subbed, so I'll see it whenever.

[B]

Did you?

[A]

Whenever. No, I didn't Sub.

[E]

I was just saying that's for the show. I got like six subscribers. I noticed some people.

[A]

Oh, please. But, buddy, Buddy.

[E]

In fact, I don't think anybody up here subscribed. Is no one up here subscribed?

[C]

I use my alias.

[A]

This isn't the John sn.

[E]

Whoever. That's the great answer.

[B]

Joe Pacheco.

[E]

Nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Appreciate y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Well, I look forward to having an amazing show with you brothers.

[C]

Likewise.

[E]

It's going to be great. We off to a good start.

[A]

We are.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Another one of those.

[B]

Moment of silence.

[A]

Listen, I. Mona has the room in the space to be Mona. Got you. And sometimes that may get walked on. That's my girl. That was my girl.

[E]

I can't wait to have that space.

[A]

You won't have that space. Oh, man. Whoa. Yeah.

[B]

Let me talk to y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Done it all. Mic check 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2,.

[E]

1, 2 mic check 1, 2, 1,2.

[A]

1, 2, 1,2 wake it up out.

[E]

There.

[B]

I'm ready to stop and don't know when it's on don't go when it's on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean old school. That's what I thought, man. Maybe extra. Damn them pumping dollars trunk pumping mine I really make cake you could call me Duncan Hines Had a drunken mind club wobbled out next whole New York.

[E]

City what up out there.

[B]

Nine Yep, skip the line looked at homeboy yo.

[E]

Yo is mine Had a little night.

[B]

Tried to flick his shine Had a.

[D]

Big jack click clack here we come.

[B]

Don'T ever come don't ever come he makers kill him.

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

Yes, sir. Whole New Jersey what up out there?

[A]

Come on.

[E]

Once again where you at? I feel like Rocky or something, man. Yo, they try to box me in.

[B]

A corner for the long run no key lock me in this corner for.

[E]

The longest but come on, man, they can't fuck with me, can't they really? Let's do this.

[A]

Man.

[B]

I got em, man.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Somehow I managed to treat them under the rock Linking up with K and linking up with the rock now I told you.

[A]

Come on. Everybody in the airport say body in the gym right now.

[E]

This is powerful music I bring to the table Sequel to able the way.

[B]

I sling cane cuz. Yo. Yes. Flea falls boy with me Call him. I promise. Ain't no better than me in this.

[D]

Planet.

[B]

I'm on my again I don't be sitting around thinking what I could have been Imma do it now I told mama imma do it proud I.

[E]

Do what I want you do what.

[B]

You allow my dog blew the louder to a cloud he versus heinous so of course they train us doing towels cold world I got too much style.

[E]

Designer or not I just pulled your.

[B]

With no lineup in Christ.

[A]

Mic check 1, 212 mic check 12121212 keep these applause going for the best crew on earth.

[B]

Who is that?

[A]

Okay, what episode is this?

[C]

895.

[A]

Welcome to episode 895 of the Bong.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Welcome to episode 895 of The Joe Button podcast brought to you by a few by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks gang, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, happy to be here host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right, our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. To his right, the birthday boy himself, Ish is in the building next to him. The freeziest of them all, Ice is in the building next to him. Big Parks is in the building. Yeah. Pardon me my gird. Poe is here, Corey is here, Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Mona will be with us shortly, I'm sure. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. What's poppin though?

[C]

Hey, shit.

[A]

What's going on?

[E]

Yo, Isha added your name just so you know to the famous people people's birthdays today there was. I'm not being funny, I did because Sade was like the is like the famous person today. I looked it up to see if you were in there and it was sad day the singer and now it's.

[B]

You talking about you asshole.

[E]

People be clipping out of context but it's now you all right so my.

[B]

I hear you, dumbass. Shut up, man.

[E]

I'm serious bro.

[B]

That's good looking out. That's friendship.

[E]

Try to be a friend of this old ass man.

[B]

Listen, old niggas be stuck setting their ways and stuff.

[A]

Listen man, what we on today man? Let me know what the vibe is.

[E]

It's all love.

[A]

Yeah N Where the pogs at? Let me let me know what Let me know if I need to get a lie get a lie together real quick. What's up?

[E]

What's up?

[B]

You need to get a lie.

[A]

I need to talk. I need to get a lie together real quick.

[E]

I might got one too tonight. I carry the spirit of conversation in this in the Saturday.

[A]

Oh, isn't that the best?

[E]

I ain't mad. No. You want to have this talk with.

[A]

The on a third with the weekend company.

[B]

All Right. All right, all right.

[A]

No, I'm joking. Of course I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Well, we on tonight, though. We good. Like, we're chilling, bro.

[E]

What that means you spending.

[A]

You spending the night with your girl? You spending with. I mean us.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So what type of night. What type of night we doing?

[C]

I think he has a work late.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You know Joe be keeping us going at midnight.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, sometimes we have a bunch.

[E]

We got seven guests, right?

[B]

They clipped.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

Parks lost it. I ain't never seen the episodes come out. You know, Parks fucked up, so.

[C]

Yeah, we had to start getting.

[B]

Yeah, you lost all the footage.

[A]

That's funny. Yo, we lost the fouls. Yeah, we got. Had to do all. We didn't start the motor, got here, knock our w. Our girls kick our ass.

[B]

We had Janet Jackson up here.

[A]

Parks lost it.

[D]

Up.

[A]

Great interview. Somebody said. Somebody said Janet Jackson look like Tyler Perry, and I can't unsee it.

[E]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Nah.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, hell no.

[E]

Why you do that to me?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yo, what is wrong?

[A]

Somebody said that they did the split screen. They said. No, no, they just said it, and it was like, yeah, I finally got it off my chest, and I was like, oh, I read it.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

I read it.

[E]

That's the worst thing I've ever read.

[B]

It is a little.

[E]

And the best thing.

[A]

That's one of those Tekashi Erica Mina things.

[C]

Oh, why'd you just do that?

[E]

You try to ruin my life.

[A]

This nigga's crazy.

[E]

I had to think of Tekashi. Now I know they look at Erica, man, I don't want to fuck. I don't want to fuck no more.

[D]

With this.

[A]

Go.

[E]

Haven't slept.

[A]

That's what I thought about when they said Takashi was going to jail. I said, oh, man. Hello, Erica. Me the face boy. You better buggle up. And take that. Take them pretty colors out that hair, too, yo. Oh, my God. Back to happy birthday.

[E]

It's crazy. Crazy.

[A]

Yo, I wish everybody well. Most of y'. All. Okay, let me get this. Cue this up. Let me cue this up so we can get right into the.

[C]

So you got no birthday plans, man?

[B]

Nah at all. My.

[E]

So when you leave here, you're gonna drive to your house like normal? And then what happens?

[C]

Go home, watch some Netflix or something?

[B]

Like, go in the house, kiss my baby and call it a night.

[E]

Like, just watch Matlock.

[B]

What's the weekend plans, cuz? Maybe you wanted them. Like, I'm celebrated.

[A]

You know what I'm saying, probably celebrated in Tennessee. Probably.

[B]

Knoxville, Knoxville. Knock it out. Knoxville, you're idiot bro. All right.

[E]

It sound like you need something to do tonight.

[B]

Oh, yeah, got you. I'm open.

[E]

Let's have a. Yeah, we'll have a spirit.

[A]

Don't play. Some of them Reddit girls is like, ooh, he is aging like wine. Don't play.

[E]

I will.

[A]

You want me hit The Reddit Girls. The Reddit girl. The Reddit girl. Oh, man, I always love finding out a podcaster, a Redditor. Oh, or somebody in that ilk. I don't know why I do nothing with the information, but it's just. I store it.

[E]

I love knowing that stuff, too. It's good to know the DMs now, fine. They be sending me DMs, telling me all the business.

[A]

Oh, my Lord.

[C]

Man, y' all messy as hell.

[E]

Fan engagement. Fan engagement.

[B]

Market research.

[E]

Market research.

[A]

Got it.

[E]

Like Knoxville.

[A]

Got you. All right. With no further ado.

[C]

Yeah, man, let's get into it.

[A]

Yeah. With no further ado. All right.

[B]

Oh, wait, no, no.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

There we go, there we go, there we go.

[B]

Brand new code, brand new co. I see.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I persevered through the worst My thirst to adhere is a curse my life I see it in reverse I first appeared in a hearse the driver steered to the church My grandkids carried the coffin to the altar as they burst.

[A]

Into tears from their shirts all right, first thoughts. Come on. I'm not just going to let it play. I'll start it over. I'mma start it over. New cold. This came out the other day. The other night on the promo. Promo was different then. This came out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Either way, disc two, track two sounds like a double disc.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Unless he's just the biggest troll ever.

[C]

Could be, but I doubt it.

[A]

I doubt it.

[C]

I doubt it. I think he's doing double disc.

[B]

I do, too.

[A]

First thoughts when you guys heard this.

[B]

Up to this point or.

[A]

Yeah, up to this point. Not. Not the whole breakdown. Just up to this point.

[B]

Just up to this point. I said, okay. Oh, he's doing a rewind. That was it. I didn't have no. Let me see how we do it.

[A]

So you picked that up in the first.

[B]

Cause he says I start from the reverse. Yeah, you can hear from there.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[E]

See, I was thinking about the. I was like, all right, he's not trying to make a single. Like, I was thinking, like, he's just rapping. Like, as a Cole fan, this is what you want to hear? He's not chasing the hit. He's not trying to. You know what I mean? This is just vintage Cole and I loved it. That's what I was thinking, actually. Just from the flow and from the production. Production or quick.

[A]

Hey. When this came on, I was like, oh, one of these beats.

[C]

Nice beat.

[A]

One of these beats. Boy, talking beat.

[E]

Yeah, you know the beat.

[A]

I like the video.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey. Hey.

[B]

I persevered through the work My thirst to adhere is a curse My life I see it in reverse I first appeared in a hearse the driver steered to the church My grandkids carry the coffin to the altar as they burst.

[D]

Into tears from their shirts the tears rise to the sides of their face.

[B]

And into their eyes is piercing with.

[D]

Hurt Fast forward 60 years I got.

[B]

Birth to the year My purpose is clear as to merc Whoever dare flirt with death the best alive but what you now hear is the work the.

[D]

Inspiration was rare and it's perched but.

[B]

When it's there, I'm immersed My experience of being a parent dispersed Watching my son disappear as I stare at his birth and he returns to the womb.

[E]

Wipey stomach growing greater than girth and.

[B]

Then declining Every time we come here to the nurse. With each day that passes I can feel my career coming. First do.

[D]

I took the wedding ring off my.

[B]

Thing every now while I'm single Walking.

[D]

Up the aisle backwards to an era of dirt.

[C]

Same rhyme scheme, the whole record with the story. That's what the first thing I heard was, the rhyme scheme.

[B]

I didn't catch that until I had.

[A]

Walked away from the phone and went to like my closet or something. And when I came back, he was still on the romp. Said, no, he did not. This guy's fucking ignorant. Yeah, that's tough to do. Yeah.

[C]

The first time, the first thought I heard, we were in the studio, we stopped to play and it was, oh, we gotta listen to that again. Cause it was clearly a story. I didn't pick up on the rewind shit on the first listen.

[A]

I didn't either.

[B]

Really? Yeah, I didn't.

[C]

Not right off the rip. I was just vibing. I wasn't analyzing right off rip. When I first listened to a record, I'm not thinking about what's happening.

[A]

I'm just. Just vibe. Yeah.

[B]

See, it depend on who it is. Like with him, I know he's usually talking in his songs. So I'm listening.

[C]

I can dig it.

[B]

And I was like, okay, I do that with everybody.

[A]

This is animal nerd.

[C]

So I was Looking at the video and he had the ASR drum machine in there. That's pretty fly inside the cats. What up?

[A]

I didn't see the entire. I don't think I saw the video.

[B]

I didn't see it.

[C]

Oh, that's how it was released. So I was watching it.

[A]

I may have seen the promo. Washing that car.

[B]

Yeah, that's the promo one.

[A]

Yeah. I smiled because I always hate those South Carolina car washes.

[B]

You gotta wash your by yourself. I hate that. Be wet as when you leave out of there.

[A]

Yeah, I hate them.

[B]

I hate them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wait, you gotta go through the drive thru. I wash my with the gun.

[B]

I go to the hand wash.

[C]

There's not too many drive at least in my neighborhood. There's not too many in New York.

[B]

I told you.

[C]

So you got. You take it somewhere or y' all.

[A]

Don'T even have gas stations, y'. All.

[C]

That's where my car wash is at.

[A]

The gas station in New York. They just started buying cars a couple years ago, right? Yeah. And they about to ban the horse and carriages because the horse got loose on fifth Avenue.

[C]

Not because of the animal cruelty.

[A]

Right, because you fucking up traffic getting loose. When has that ever stopped you guys? Cruelty.

[B]

Don't lump me in with those monsters.

[A]

Cruelty. See? All right, back to him.

[B]

Tipsy with a. I see clear through a skirt the cameras be snapping, blogs be yapping so I'm careful alert walking to my section Whisper right in my ear we flirt, we part ways I see it from a distance she stands.

[A]

With a smirk oh my God. I had a good. I had a good time with this too. I stopped to wonder what jcole flirting was like. No, you rapping. Cuz he's such a visual artist. So what?

[B]

He's saying this.

[A]

And I remember going to his show in Brooklyn. You rapping. They were all there. Oh yeah.

[E]

They were all.

[A]

Don't think I'm making a joke. They were all absolutely there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, but cold flirting is hilarious.

[C]

It's kind of funny. I didn't think about it that way, but it's kind of funny.

[B]

Yeah, right in my ear. We flirt, we part ways I see.

[E]

It from a distance she stands with a smirk Cheers to the perks with.

[B]

The squad we live for the search of new homes Lest he quit the unaware of they worth we leave a.

[E]

Club job to the show and I.

[D]

Swear that it's turned it all begins.

[B]

With encore cheers from those wearing my merch. Fast forward through years of rehearsal losing.

[A]

N. Never mind.

[B]

This is really hard to do.

[A]

No, I'M wondering if after the encore, the chick's wearing his merch, is coming back. Like, I'm just still trying to figure out if he's still going off the flirt.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. He left the show. He going to the new spot, thinking, I wonder if it's gonna be some girls there. Then he gets to the new spot, he sees the chick across the room. They exchanged a little smirky smile. And then he keeps going.

[A]

Bingo.

[B]

That is. It's really hard to do.

[A]

That's some Dreamville ain't fooling me. I'm back. I'm back.

[E]

And though I'm blessed I see me.

[B]

Stressing from hearing the terps and naysayers.

[D]

Who only days later I don't care.

[B]

To convert on cloud nine now signed to my hero one of the so called kings of this rap thing that I swear to you, sir.

[A]

Am I overreacting? No, you're not.

[B]

Nope. You're not.

[A]

I didn't think I was either.

[B]

You're not so called.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You put that in there for a reason.

[A]

Parks tell us we're wrong.

[B]

What's the reason?

[C]

Forget about back. I missed it.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

I'm signed to my now signed to my hero Wanted a so called who.

[D]

Only days later I don't care to.

[B]

Convert on Cloud nine Now signed to my hero wanted a so called king.

[E]

To this rap thing that I swear.

[B]

To you s decade later Mama y.

[C]

Think that's a shot.

[E]

One of them so called kings that I'm the so called usurp.

[C]

I don't know. I feel like that's a rhyme scheme thing.

[B]

No, you got to find. You got to find two play on his words. Cuz ain't no other kings of this rap thing Them siblings.

[C]

That's a biggie lie.

[B]

But. But he. It's a play. Okay with that.

[A]

Wait, where did that come from? I don't get it.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

He's.

[B]

He's using find two other syllables, right?

[E]

He know a lot of words.

[A]

He could.

[E]

He could pick something different.

[B]

So if I'm repeating how we gonna be doing this when we tying it to that? Yeah.

[A]

All right, now I got you.

[E]

You can't talk about your serpent kings.

[B]

If you are gifted enough to do what he just did, you could find two other words instead of so called. Put it right there.

[A]

In what world is so called? Not a shadow shot Tell like I'm.

[B]

I'm down to be reaching you soall.

[E]

Engineer the word usurp. Yeah, that's the. To me it's the so called and the usurp together See, usurp.

[A]

I didn't pay no mind cuz on some rapper we all have to. We should, we should usurp.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Not after you, just so. Yeah, the combination, right?

[B]

Income streams nowhere near as diverse and though I'm blessed I see me stressing from hearing the Terps and they say.

[D]

It'S only days later I don't care.

[B]

To convert on cloud nine now signed.

[E]

To my hero, one of the so.

[B]

Called kings of this rap thing that.

[D]

I swear to you, sir, decades later, Mama cut on the cable My motivation to be crazy.

[A]

Yeah, I'm rolling. So you didn't have to.

[B]

So called, you didn't have to, you ain't have to so called.

[A]

And wait, before we do this, let me let y' all know that for me, in my head, top of the conspiracy list is I wish I knew what was going on between J. Cole and Jeff. Crazy. I've been saying that forever. These are two brothers that are holding it down in terms of whatever happened.

[B]

Yeah, solid is solid.

[A]

It could be nothing happened, but boy, are they holding it down. And boy, do I wish they would stop.

[B]

But that's the dope shit. Let's say nothing happened. You wouldn't know. And that's how it's supposed to be.

[C]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know if anything happened. It might just be a. You know, every rapper starts off wanting to be signed to someone, and then once they start getting a lot of money and accolades and all that, they no longer want to be there. The guy that signed the dude don't want to let you go because you're making me a lot of fucking money. I don't think it's really that deep. I don't think it's probably Venom, but they probably had a butting of heads at some level. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Anyway, it happens every single time.

[B]

I agree with that part, but I also look at, like, just the lack of them doing shit together. I think that could play into it. If I'm cold, I'm signed to you. I'm young to study, I'm xyz, come on. On nothing, really. They did, they did when he was.

[C]

Still signed to him, but they haven't since. He hasn't been signed to him.

[B]

So at that point, very minimal. And both very minimal, but even back then, it was very minimal.

[C]

He had him on hov, had him on his album. That's a big deal. And he was on his first single that's a big deal. They did work.

[B]

Yeah, but so even when he was signed to him, it still.

[A]

What you talking about? You talking about back in the day?

[C]

Yes. Oh, he say that they never did know.

[B]

I didn't say never. I did not said minimal.

[C]

But it's not minimal if you. You're Hov don't have many features on his albums. Really.

[A]

I'm not saying that those early minimal. They were very important in whatever plan that they had going and it worked. I just feel like if you saw the. The backstage or whatever, Doc, that was where HOV was like the boy eating the cereal. Like, if your story starts from there and then you find this dope ass kid from North Carolina. Y' all break all types of boundaries. Y' all sell all of these.

[B]

Y'.

[A]

All. Y' all doing it. Y' all do it. Even if mutually beneficial is what I'm saying. For both.

[B]

To both of them.

[A]

Whenever it ends. That's what I'd be saying. Yo, when. When any business relationship ends if it was mutually beneficial and we all happy.

[B]

Should be no bad.

[A]

Let's go our separate ways. But yo, let me buy you a drink. When I see you in the.

[B]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[A]

Let me put an ad lib on something. Send me a record. Let me hear it. Like, you know, it don't really closer to Pusha T. You know, it don't work.

[C]

It don't work that way, but.

[A]

I know, but bigger than the show. I guess I'm just disappointed, that's all.

[B]

Yeah, but bigger than that. They both are so quiet and mysterious that that could be happening and we would still be none the wiser.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

He might have sent this the whole album. Like, yo, I honor your opinion. Let me know what you think. We would never know. Because they both carry it like that.

[C]

That's valid.

[A]

Very true.

[E]

Huh?

[A]

Until they hit a booth. Well, not cold. Cold be holding it down.

[B]

Down.

[A]

Kobe holding it down. Jay Z. If this is something. Well, no, we won't. This will not be the last time we've heard about so called.

[E]

But when. Now I'm thinking about this again when he's telling us.

[A]

This is gonna be like when he did that. I'm sorry, Mark. It's gonna be like when he did that. What was that? Birdman or somebody said some. And then he started talking about the art in the house and you got repoed and nobody knew nothing. It's like, yeah, it's gonna. Maybe I'm doing some fan obsessive shit right now.

[E]

I'm thinking about this thing. Also, he's telling the story backwards. Right. So what life stage is he when he's saying so Called Kings?

[B]

He said, I'm assigned to my hero. I'm signed to my hero.

[E]

So is he just saying. I'm trying to give him look at it more generally?

[B]

No, if he was already your hero, then he was not so called.

[E]

No, no. What I'm saying is, though, is he just saying, as a young, hungry rapper, I was trying to take everybody down.

[A]

There's no point in J. Cole's rap life that HOV was so called.

[E]

I mean, HOV ain't so called to know. But I'm just saying, like, well, he might know.

[A]

He was so called in the 98.

[B]

In the 97. 98, when he said Biggie, Jay Z.

[A]

Or Nas, it was so cold. It was a fight going on.

[E]

Yeah, that was where I'm from. That's like you said, that's the 90s. But I'm talking about when Cole came out. I'm just saying, is he being self critical? Like, y' all was a young, cocky dude that thought I was calling him so called back then. I don't really feel that's what I'm saying.

[A]

That's nice. That's a nice angle that my brain would have never came up with.

[B]

But no, but you can't say that and say he's already my hero. If he's already your hero, he's no longer so called.

[E]

Well, unless you think you the king King. See what I'm saying? Like, I'm about to edge his name out. Go taking it back to the where I'm from reference. Right.

[A]

I'm not mad at that.

[E]

I'm just saying it's another.

[A]

I don't know if that's what it was. But let's keep.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

I know Cole smart enough to know that so Called is gonna have people. That's true, too. He's too smart. Yeah, I agree.

[A]

Of course.

[E]

I agree with that. I'm just saying it might not be as ill as I when I first heard it. Now that I'm thinking about this song.

[A]

And you know what? I'm gonna give Jermaine Cole the benefit of the doubt because I have to factor in his last last year and a half and his apology and how he feels about.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

He's one of the more mature guys out there. I'm not gonna put that on.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's for a sleaze ball.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. I didn't think about that line.

[B]

I don't think he would do that.

[A]

He's not the one coming out after that. After the pulling back to throw a shot at Jay.

[E]

I think he might be being self critical.

[A]

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I take it back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That makes a lot of sense.

[A]

Yeah. I'm on. Yeah. All right.

[D]

Off ends the moment I appear in.

[B]

A purse I'm going shorter Panthers cover my hind quarters I watch my father walk back in my life and it.

[A]

Clears up a hurt and that ain't. You ain't even about to throw a shot on the rewind story.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Your brain is so gone on some deep. My kids, my life in reflection Strictly rhymes. The summation of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just nice. Like, I'm not doing this in the rewind track.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No. Hey, Mona.

[D]

Hey, guys. Hi, Joe.

[B]

How are you? What's up?

[D]

Good. How are y'? All?

[C]

Good.

[A]

Good. We good. We good. We just going over J. Cole's song. That's the first thing on the board right there. You look great.

[D]

I see.

[A]

You look okay.

[B]

Back in my life and it clears up a hurt I couldn't explain Mama gives me my name and hands me over to the doctor and I watch as my spirit reverse Then I'm no.

[E]

Longer here on this earth. I'm no longer here on this earth.

[A]

Yes, sir. I love this. Bye.

[C]

Wait, let it ride for a second.

[A]

I got you, baby.

[C]

Once again.

[B]

Who the fuck is you?

[D]

Who the is you?

[B]

Who the is you? Out the way, it's a real.

[D]

Coming through.

[B]

Out the way, it's a real.

[A]

This is crazy.

[C]

Crazy.

[D]

Computer style of the unibrow Unabomber who.

[B]

Maneuver through the drama with the suit up.

[A]

That is absolutely ridiculous. That's. That what got Jesus. Yeah. That was nuts.

[C]

And that goes to my dead president's loop thing. Why keep reusing the same piano loop when there's another perfectly fire, sad, melancholy piano loop that you could use? And he did it here. Can't wait to hear whatever disc and track number that is.

[A]

I like anybody that's showing their appreciation to all that Memphis get you rowdy. And J. Cole does it a lot.

[C]

Mixed with some.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Mixed with some mob question as serious as cancer double disc.

[E]

I think J. Cole is capable as anybody of making an amazing record, amazing album, and I think he will. I'm looking forward to this based on what I heard. But when you start talking about double discs, you raise the degree of difficulty considerably. I mean, I don't know. And it feels like. I feel like every major rapper who wants to be in at all time? Hammer does a double disc at least once. Hov did it, Nas did it, Pac did it, so forth. And so Biggie did it.

[C]

Wu Tang.

[E]

Wu Tang. That's actually one of the ones I think worked.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, I mean, there's only a few that I feel like are really classics double discs.

[C]

Biggie Pocket Woo.

[E]

Yeah, that's it.

[A]

Y' all got Woo Forever as a classic.

[C]

Although I. I don't think it's perfect by any sense of the imagination. Yes, it's an elite.

[E]

It's an elite double disc. Most people are definitely like, it ain't.

[B]

Classic for me, but it's enough for me.

[C]

Could they have trimmed three or four songs off it and it would have been a more concise, better project?

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

But I think it's impacting time.

[E]

It's four and a half mics for sure.

[A]

Yo, don't mic system me.

[E]

This is how my brain works.

[A]

Oh, my Lord. That was horrible.

[E]

I'm old. Yeah, but the company excluded, like, for me, it's like a four and a half range. Most people, again, like, Blueprint 2 wasn't that. You know, Nas didn't have that.

[C]

Blueprint 2 could have been an easy EP.

[B]

They actually went and did it.

[E]

Blueprint was fly. I think it was 10 songs, but anyway, like, 2.1.

[C]

But, like, the first five songs are cover songs. Anyway.

[E]

A lot of trash in it, but. But at least 10 good songs.

[A]

Definitely a whole text.

[C]

Sorry.

[E]

But, I mean, he knows that. He put out blooper 2.1 to fix it. Anyway, point being, like, most elite rappers have tried it, most don't make it there. So I'm just saying. Does that scare y' all in terms of the fact that it's a double disc?

[C]

No, no, no. I think if it's done right, and I would say leaning towards concise, if it's double disc, like 12 songs on each thing, I think it's fine if you give me 20 songs on each disc. I feel like that you might be doing a lot.

[B]

Not just that he hasn't been out in two years. Mad has happened. I think he also said he got a lot to talk about.

[C]

He also said in some of the promo that he's been working on this album for 10 years, so he's been putting some to the side and it's.

[B]

Been teased as his final album. So if I'm going out, I think.

[E]

Cole could do Swing for the Fence.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't believe it, but I'm taking out his word.

[A]

For now, sure.

[B]

I'll take it.

[E]

I'm assuming the best.

[A]

He.

[D]

He.

[A]

He's. He's the one you can.

[B]

He might be the one that might.

[A]

He's the one that seemed like he just want to go mow lawn somewhere.

[E]

I did.

[B]

I did all I needed to do in here. I wouldn't be surprised if they could be in a Peace Corps somewhere in Tanzania, help it. Like, that's just what you wouldn't be shocked. What else does he have to accomplish?

[A]

You just expect him to be on a bicycle?

[C]

He's on the bike now.

[B]

Down a highway on his Andre 3000. Right. You just see him just pop up somewhere, Just move around out like it's nothing.

[A]

And I'm telling you, yo, this music business fame shit is really overrated when you're a part of it.

[C]

Yeah, I can see.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you just look at it from J. Cole's Pain point. What else does he need to do in hip hop? Yeah. With.

[A]

And. And if he feel like being sassy.

[B]

With how y' all spoke to me.

[A]

This past year and a half. Y' all think Drake is on some sassy. I'm gonna show you guys. I'm gonna remove myself from the scene and then watch how it is. Well, Jake. Oh. Don't like how y' all was talking.

[C]

It's possible, but he was teasing this before the Battle Royale.

[A]

Betty wouldn't add or something? Some songs, Just a few.

[C]

I'm sure.

[B]

Just a tip couple. That's how I became a double disc.

[A]

Yeah. Word. Yeah.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

So what's the date on this?

[C]

2 6. 2 6, February 6th. So, yeah, we did three weeks.

[A]

Yeah, three weeks away. New J. Cole, first quarter.

[C]

I want to shout out NAS and large Pro 2 for the original rewind made on the same drum machine machine in the video. Small nugget there, you know, Fans like nuggets, man. Probably unintentional, but.

[A]

Nah. You think it was unintentional?

[B]

Probably.

[C]

It's his first drum machine. He's talked about it in interviews and showed it in other.

[A]

So I want to hear the snippet again.

[B]

I think anything with Cole is intentional, man.

[E]

Me too.

[B]

Like, he just wanted them.

[E]

I think so, too.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay. That piano loop is not fair.

[B]

Who the is you? Who the is you? Who the is you? Who the is you? Out the way.

[D]

Coming through.

[A]

Oh, my. Who oh, who makes this bass? What the hell?

[D]

Computer style of the unibrow.

[B]

Unabomber who maneuver through the drama with the pseudo shout out to Havoc.

[A]

Man, I want to be sitting. Yes. Out to havoc.

[B]

I need that record, man.

[A]

I want to be sitting in front of some big ass speakers. Dead ass when that comes on.

[C]

I'm not gonna lie. It's gonna make February 6th. Podcast day. Might start a little late. Don't do it at midnight.

[A]

Right. It sound like a Thursday night party, but going to bed at 3:00am Sounds like one of those. Or waking up at 3:00am Yeah, I want.

[C]

I want to hear this at night. Loud.

[E]

Midnight. The Albus and Bacardi.

[A]

I'm good. There was a lot of talk online. A lot of talk online. I got feeling like whatever J. Cole Cole release, like, you know, every hive kind of stands up. But his eye, his hive is cool. I feel like he dropping and people come with them. You used to be part of that with J. Cole hive.

[C]

I got a text from his fan club, so I think I'm in the J. Cole hive still.

[A]

Oh. You know, I used to be the. With J. Cole.

[C]

Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember him? He was the worst. Damn.

[C]

I forgot about.

[A]

You were one of the worst.

[B]

I was bad.

[E]

Bring it down. Why was it just more of the choice?

[A]

Used to be such a shithead, yo. Online. Anyway, his. His. His digital footprint nasty covered in. Yeah.

[D]

Did you delete a lot of it?

[B]

Yeah, of course. A lot.

[D]

Respect.

[E]

I don't.

[D]

I don't.

[E]

Not to get off topic. It's just you're such a great person. You're one of the best people I know in real life. I mean, genuinely.

[A]

And I've said that before, but he grew into that. Tell Mark what you used to do to J. Cole.

[B]

It's Friday. It was. It wasn't my tweet. Someone else had tweeted. It's Friday. Ain't nobody trying to hit no J. Cole. So for like every Friday.

[C]

For 10 years.

[A]

Like three years. Every Friday.

[B]

Every Friday.

[E]

Like 150 Fridays, you just wake up and retweet it.

[B]

That's like, you know what?

[A]

Like. But why would you do that? Why would you do that jerk thing to do what you say, Mona?

[D]

Nothing.

[E]

M co side of that?

[D]

No. This is what I want to know when he says, like, you're a bad person online, right? You think you could separate that? Like, be a bad person online, but be a good person in real life?

[C]

He did.

[D]

That exists.

[C]

He was a good dude.

[B]

I was a good.

[C]

He was just a menace on the Internet.

[A]

Little wild. I don't know, bro.

[D]

I feel like growth, it. It affects you everywhere, but there's no way you. You're this great person in real life. And online, you're just a nasty troll. And if you're that person, you shouldn't be that person.

[E]

You're the first person I've ever met who's not a piece of shit. Or I had a guy who worked for me in my bookstore. I won't say his name. Cause I don't embarrass Isaiah. He disgust him a lot. He was a troll and he would like steal people's tweets and write them as his own.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Don't do that.

[E]

Those are both character things to me.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Stealing is stealing.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. But he'd be like, oh, I just do it for fun. And I troll for fun. And da da, da, da, da.

[D]

Rich.

[E]

He stole money from the store.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

We talked about.

[E]

Cause if I see Isaiah, I'mma fuck him up.

[B]

That's why we gonna fuck you up.

[A]

Remember? Same thing I said about finesse in that Monopoly game. Shout out to finesse. Ish. Thought I was so crazy. My man did some slimy shit in the Monopoly game. That shit don't.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, that's a character thing.

[E]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I don't like that. I don't like to see a game. Shouldn't bring that side out of you.

[E]

Right.

[A]

They joke. It's thought I was not nuts.

[B]

You did some slimy in Monopoly games.

[E]

Does it. Does that support his theory? I don't really challenge his theory.

[A]

No.

[B]

I don't know what happened in that game.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

So I'm.

[A]

And I don't really remember, but I'm not against slime.

[B]

Whatever he did, it was grimy. Grimy.

[A]

Out of bounds is probably remembers. And you remember.

[E]

I knew he would.

[D]

What happened?

[E]

What he.

[C]

Do y' all would like to know.

[B]

What the way we play Monopoly, you. You co op, right? And then it's terms to the co op. Of course. And when. When the game got thick.

[A]

Oh, he did that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like it's us bad as hell. Like.

[A]

But he did this in like 09.

[C]

Is that how the co op always goes?

[B]

No, no, not in Monopoly, no.

[A]

What? No, no, no.

[C]

When does the. When does the terms end?

[B]

Somebody get up to a certain point, we can disband the co op.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I'm just not going to rob you of. You know what I mean?

[E]

Okay.

[B]

If I'm holding a problem and I got to pay you your bread, I ain't just gonna say you dead on that either. It's still ours, even though only one person.

[A]

And he was, at that point, too much of my man. And we was in my house. I'm not. I'm just saying. I'm not hitting somebody in my house. House like any. Me and him, we had too good of a friendship, too. But anybody that was. Anyway, back to whatever we was talking about.

[B]

No, I believe that. Jcole. Some of this is character.

[A]

So. Yeah, Ice used to be a minister society. And he's matured a lot, and he's gotten a lot better. And he's a hell of a person and a hell of a dad. And to Mona's point, you don't see those things. You don't see those tweets.

[E]

Does he listen to J. Cole on Fridays now, though?

[A]

No, he with. He loves Cole. He loves Cole now. That's why. That's why it's tricky. That's why it's tricky, too. Fucking with artists.

[B]

Oh, no, it's even worse than that tweet. I remember a long time ago. I mean, this might be when him and J Elect had, like, just signed the Roc Nation or something, and I swore neither one of them was putting the album out. And I'm like, yo, they ain't never dropping the album on. Well, I just didn't believe in Roc Nation at that time. A lot of people didn't. I'm not the only one. But I was very vocal about. About it. Like, I've been blocked by Roc Nation. They didn't fuck with me for a long time. We cool now. But it was a long time where Roc Nation didn't fuck with me. And I. I was like, yo, remember that tweet I told y' all that J. Cole and JLC would never put an album out? I'm right.

[A]

And this.

[B]

That tweet was like, three years after I said it. Cole favorited the tweet and the whole shit and then threw some shot like. Like, people see, I've learned that, yo, we see the shit you be saying, especially the hate. Yeah, we'll address you.

[A]

Got a real hall of Fame tweet resume. No, I don't, honestly.

[E]

Are any of them positive?

[A]

Seriously.

[D]

And it's so funny.

[A]

Yes, it's funny when you think about it.

[D]

It's so funny when you think about it, because how you deal with trolls, because you don't even engage with, like, Ice Block Mute shit. You don't engage.

[B]

I know what trolls want, right?

[E]

I keep.

[B]

I tell everybody.

[D]

I don't know why. It's just, like, a mind to me. Probably because I'm troll so much. I've been online so long, but I just can't believe.

[A]

Well, it's that. And he's really sensitive.

[D]

No, he's not. Are you sensitive?

[B]

Who you asking?

[A]

Why men hate that. Why do men hate that so much?

[D]

I don't know why. I think that's a sign thing. Certain signs, y' all just think. What's your sign again?

[B]

Gemini.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What that mean? I don't.

[D]

I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

One that got dropped off and the. That's firing from his wi fi in the house.

[D]

I don't think I've ever met a Gemini that wasn't two people.

[A]

I think I never met a person. Not too much on my man too. Back up off ice now.

[D]

Ice my.

[B]

All right.

[E]

Good morning. Did you wish Ish happy birthday, though?

[D]

No, but I've been sitting here thinking like, yo, is it this nigga's birthday? Happy birthday, boy.

[B]

Thank you.

[D]

My happy birthday. What you doing? It's corny. You got your on.

[A]

Yo, just check the stories tonight, Paint. I mean, check them IG stories.

[D]

Are we hanging out guys?

[E]

We might be.

[B]

That's what I do.

[E]

Hopefully that's the place.

[A]

Now you got to do it on your birthday.

[E]

We at least get a drink together.

[B]

I don't drink, but put IG stories.

[E]

You can get some pills.

[A]

That's your.

[E]

I'm saying pills. I'm saying that's my pills. Not pills.

[B]

Orange pills.

[D]

Did you never drink? Don't drink now.

[A]

Having a birthday day. Hookah at 50s. No, I'm not letting them do it.

[C]

Yeah. No cigars.

[A]

Get some head. Do something you got to do.

[E]

We won't be there for that.

[A]

A hookah. Who?

[D]

Who won't?

[E]

I'm not be anybody's old ass gets dicks.

[A]

If I pay for it to get done. I'm staying. Sure.

[B]

You get your money's worth.

[D]

I spy.

[A]

It's a joke, man. Stupid ass fans take me too serious. All right.

[C]

Shout to Cole, man.

[B]

Shout out to Cole.

[E]

Some other music came out. Y' all heard that asap?

[A]

I did.

[B]

I got halfway through.

[E]

I listen. There's a few albums that came out today. Fire. But what you think so far?

[B]

What I heard, I like. I didn't. I had low expectations for this album. I'll be honest.

[A]

Same. He shocked the out of me.

[B]

Yeah. I was like, oh, shock the out of. It's a good album.

[E]

There's some real.

[B]

What I heard I didn't make it all the way through, but I am I'm not. I ain't knocking this.

[E]

No, there's some real good rap.

[C]

I don't know, 17, maybe. It's like a weird double disc situation too, where there's like two songs on.

[E]

That's. I mean, that ain't no double. That's a bonus video. And like a. Was it. I know. You write 15 and then it's 18 total. Yeah, but there was some tracks on here. The two lead singles were good. What else was here? The little. They called the Drake. The.

[A]

This play the Drake disc.

[E]

Come on, let's just get to it, right?

[A]

Unpack the Drake disc, Drake disc, Drake disc.

[E]

A couple of them that stole your flow.

[B]

Yeah, stole your flow.

[E]

You stole my flow? So I stole your B. Yeah.

[C]

I mean going replay it.

[E]

Yes. Cuz I hate Drake, y'.

[B]

All.

[E]

I can't trust the soap Just my.

[B]

Pole and my kids say that never lie Cause my heart was to die.

[E]

Then I sold the switch Then I.

[B]

Hit it with a kiss all red Mary Jane just a missourari paint man shin on everything wasn't even potty trained Getting BBL lucky way on body Shane throwing dirt on rocky name turn around and copy peace songs black on black P stones, black onyx, black diamond shining Black jeans on black phone black iPhone black hoodie black boy don't dance mostly.

[E]

Gangster Stole my throat so I stole your.

[B]

If you stole my style I need.

[E]

At least like 10%.

[A]

Fits.

[E]

All right, all right, all right, all.

[A]

Right, all right, all right, all right, all right.

[C]

This album is very abrasive. It was not my cup of tea first thing in the morning. I do want to listen to it again in a different atmosphere. It's a lot like this. A lot of punk, punkish vibes.

[B]

This is an album that's meant to be performed live.

[C]

Yeah, definitely.

[B]

That's all I heard. I'm like, I. I'm at the show.

[A]

Why don't y' all get some man speakers and shut up. Why don't y' all get some speakers with some umph on him?

[B]

Certain shit is energy based.

[C]

I just don't want to hear this level of abrasion first thing in the morning.

[A]

No, I agree with you there, but give it a go. Give it a go.

[C]

I'm definitely going to. I'm definitely going to. It's not the. The beat. It's well produced and all that. I just. First thing, six, seven o' clock in the morning. It's a lot.

[B]

I like this.

[D]

I like it.

[B]

I didn't care when I thought, you want to hear like that.

[D]

I like that.

[B]

No, because you said you don't want to hear the soft in the morning.

[E]

He wasn't boom back though. Not like punk.

[C]

Yeah, not punk. There's. There's levels.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

There's levels.

[D]

First blind.

[A]

Yeah, no, the ASAP exceeded my expectations and granted I didn't expect much cuz who knew what to expect but. Pardon me.

[E]

Yeah, some of the reviews haven't been as strong. You know, I read some of the reviews after I listened to it. Like, I mean. You mean that how many mics? Like the Guardian gave it three. The Guardian gave it three out of five. They said it was a. It was kind of meandering a little bit almost like there was some really good and some that like felt a little lost, like sonic. I didn't necessarily agree with that review, but. And I read a few more reviews anyway.

[A]

Don't repeat another Guardian review up here. Especially same day. That, that's, that's my thing. Who reviews it? Right? Why am I looking at a review same day. Same day.

[B]

Well, they get it. You know how that.

[E]

I assume they got it early sometimes.

[C]

Let's not give all the credit in the world sometimes. Do one listen for sure.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[E]

I, I again, I thought it was first listen. I like it it. You know what I mean? Not to use mics, but I'd give it four out of five something. Three and a half out of three and a half out of something. You know what I'm saying? I thought it was solid. Good production. I need to hear it again. I need to hear it again.

[A]

I need. I need to hear it again.

[C]

Also, I like the DOI record. Not for nothing.

[E]

Oh yes.

[B]

He took other shots on the record too.

[E]

We hear that too. Yeah, but that BBL was the one.

[B]

I forget that street he shot a couple times. It wasn't just that. He shot about the move to Texas.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

He shot that one. The BBL and another one. Take care of your kids. All that. I have one woman that's player shots on the player record. Like he's. He's.

[A]

He's shooting.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

For real.

[C]

Do we want to hear the DOI record? Is that.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead, give it a go.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Why not?

[C]

Very different production style.

[B]

I like.

[A]

I like the beat on this a lot.

[B]

Some jazz.

[A]

AK in the seas always.

[D]

Been a hot boy.

[B]

Some think I robbed them. Why I last 7 years only Dr. Like 5 songs. Peace love by God, Big bodyguard strong.

[E]

On bygones I Bygones be bygones can't.

[B]

Do a fit check you get the price wrong snake printed leather but you.

[E]

Pick the pipe, though.

[A]

I mean, respectfully.

[D]

Come on, get on top of me.

[E]

Baby, you like the way I shop.

[C]

Well, you should sponsor me, baby I'm.

[D]

The Bosquia banji I know you want my van too N say that there.

[A]

Leave that there we both rock Flintstones they bound to stare Them late nights we ain't angel hairs they going hate where they can go pee or compare.

[D]

Sex on the beach Please don't spill.

[E]

It on the me Address me as.

[A]

Chi Chi not Don't Chi when I'm in L rubies on the bro Then.

[D]

To schlage you ain't invent this hoe so please don't approach Watch my black ass sit on this way se we taking our space these white folks don't phase me let's propose a toast let's kill the ho Princess cut diamonds on me so cut throat.

[A]

This is crazy.

[B]

This is amazing.

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

Perfect person for that. They snapped on that.

[B]

Yeah. Nobody could.

[E]

This is my favorite track of the album.

[A]

Yeah, me too.

[C]

But that was the first morning. First thing in the morning.

[E]

Listen.

[C]

So I might feel differently, right? With a little more energy behind me.

[E]

It's a couple other joints, but this was one of them.

[A]

What is this?

[C]

It's.

[A]

We know this. This is the thing.

[C]

It's a jazz standard. It's.

[A]

Mark.

[C]

You might know better than me what's it.

[E]

What's turn up Turn up.

[A]

Cheap and.

[D]

I'm tired of you Honestly, I had to just a crown of you I.

[E]

Frown on you yeah.

[A]

I feel like they slowed it down. My bad.

[C]

Snitching, but whatever.

[A]

That is hard.

[B]

Crazy. And she probably is the only person that could have pulled that off. Yeah, I don't think nobody could do that. Her. Maybe Lady London might have got it.

[D]

I love other than them like the sexy lyrics. And then that little beat thing when she start. Like how the old school vixen was like. That's how it sound when she start. I like that.

[B]

That's the original.

[A]

Wait a minute. Hey. Wait a minute.

[B]

Hey. This is hard.

[A]

I'm such a music geek. Yeah, we've heard this.

[C]

Yeah. It's just.

[A]

I feel like Ricky Ricardo or some was dancing.

[E]

Hey, hey.

[A]

All right.

[E]

I'm cool.

[A]

I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. That sounds great, man. Shout out to A.S.A.P. rocky, man. Hell of a project to be gone for so long. And kind of gone for so long because he popped up here and there. But as far as.

[C]

As releasing Music himself. It's been a while. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This has been a minute, bro.

[A]

This is solid.

[C]

This is 2018. That's almost 10 years.

[A]

Damn near eight years. 10. 2016. 2016. 2016.

[D]

He's happy. He's being loved. Well, you see, Rihanna was saying how she got that Clarissa. That Clarissa energy. Pepper stairs. Yeah, but I love it. I mean. I mean, she love her man. He being loved, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Happy for them.

[A]

And he. And he'd be upstairs. He be upstairs.

[D]

That's the whole thing.

[A]

She had enough of y' all on the Internet. She took the phone upstairs. I like that he was right there in the dark watching cartoons.

[C]

I love the videos, too, actually, now. Now that we're talking asap. Rocky, the helicopter video and the punk Rocky. Those are fire videos.

[A]

I don't watch videos.

[B]

Me neither. I watch a lot of videos.

[C]

I love videos. Especially when it's by someone that puts time into it. Like, he's got art direction brain.

[B]

Yeah. Artist. Really, really, really artsy.

[E]

One more album. Can we do one more album?

[A]

Mark, meet up.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

What do you got?

[E]

I was gonna say Wiz Khalifa's new album, but Joe don't with him, so.

[A]

No, I absolutely love Wiz.

[E]

I'm being an asshole.

[B]

That's the one.

[E]

I actually think that album was. Y' all hear Chaotic.

[C]

I listened to a little bit of it.

[A]

I did not.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

I didn't. Yeah, I see high praise for it online.

[B]

That shit is fire.

[E]

It is a fire album. I have one little critique, but in general, there's a couple of guest appearances I didn't love, but Wiz is rapping his ass off. The production is great, great songs. It feels good. That's a car. That's an album you want to be driving down the street listening to.

[C]

This is. I feel like there's two Wizzes. There's, like, fun stoner Wiz, and then there's like, I'm going to show you I can really rap, and I get with it Wiz. And this was the latter.

[B]

It's only one feature on this album that I've been saying since he came home. I wanted Wiz and Max.

[E]

Yep.

[B]

But this was not the Wiz and Max. I want.

[A]

Want it.

[C]

Oh, I like that record.

[B]

Do you like I want it. Oh, good. Load it up. This is not what I want.

[E]

Song. Two to three verses are great. That's all I'm going say.

[B]

It ain't even that for me. It's just when I wanted whiz and Max, I wanted melodic I wanted. That's. That's what I want to hear.

[C]

I want to hear this kind of a lot.

[B]

Okay, let the verses come in.

[A]

Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

[C]

I mean, Max still just don't sound like Max yet, but that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Hear it? Wait a minute. Wait a.

[D]

Run.

[E]

So I stay with mine and I.

[B]

Don'T got to look for wealth cuz.

[E]

That'S the state of mind you wasting.

[B]

Time trying to find a fresher than.

[D]

I am Won't even let you with.

[B]

Chrome hearts Louis luggage for the belt.

[D]

I go go yard cush got me.

[E]

So gone she told me I'm the.

[B]

Realest rapper that she met so far.

[E]

Through getting bitten I'm content Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win but you still.

[B]

Live to get high and try again Expensive restaurants we dining in and my.

[E]

Element like the fifth Rolexes tell us what time it is.

[D]

I forgot how much I like how he sound.

[E]

He be rapping, Man.

[D]

I'm going to listen to this.

[E]

So smooth.

[B]

This whole album is. This whole album is key.

[E]

I love it. Like I said, just a couple features.

[A]

This is melodic to me.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

You. You'll hear.

[D]

I like. You can hear his Pittsburgh accent.

[A]

I like when you hear his man coming up. Yes.

[B]

Yes. Right here. We took the triple beam. We got the blowout. 300 million streams without the rollout. Should have put it on without the go out.

[A]

I got you looking bad.

[D]

I got my toes out.

[B]

You close out. All gigs sold out. Just put it in the comments.

[A]

I wonder why he chose not to. Chose not to say thing.

[B]

That's. And he would have sang here.

[A]

I wonder why he chose not to.

[B]

Maybe he's just not there yet.

[A]

I think he's still getting his foot for 20 years.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Get the.

[D]

Like.

[B]

I'm giving him grace. I'm not.

[C]

I don't like the way they're mixing him right now. His voice is already raspy, but, like, the double is. It's clashing. It's not. It's not sounding great.

[A]

It is. That's one of the big things that changed while he was gone.

[D]

His voice.

[B]

Well, n. Not just that, but people.

[A]

Doubled the verse when he went away. Always.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now that's not really how we. How they get jiggy with it.

[C]

That was a messy era if you weren't tight with your doubles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's a lot more tech out. There's a lot more amps and voice shit. Like, he should be able to just get a clean.

[C]

Clean lead.

[A]

Yeah, clean.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

He Sound like an old man on that.

[E]

And. And some of that is the production. That's what I'm saying. Like, I like this. I love the song. I. I think I would like to hear him melodic.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

I. I just didn't like the way he sounded on the song. And I'm a Max fan, so I want him to. Anyway. I. I wish. I wish that wasn't where he.

[D]

It could have been so much better, cuz Whiz snap.

[A]

Well, shout out to Wiz. I. I do plan on. I do plan on listening. Loaded up.

[E]

That's the other one.

[A]

Let me hear. I need to hear music.

[C]

Here we go. If you know, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Could smell what I smoke I just want the money? Cars closing hoes me and my team stunting hard? We getting swole the way that we shut down tomorrow? You think it's closed? We got my eyes closed, my top.

[A]

Down it ain't close.

[D]

If you know, you know?

[A]

If you know, you know?

[B]

I can't date no regular? Cause I be acting crazy.

[A]

Nailed it. All right, you can cut that off. Yeah, you can cut that off.

[B]

That one right there, though.

[E]

That's one of the ones.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yo, if that come on for my man birthday, I swear for God, I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. Yo, DJ New Jersey and New York DJs get my man birthday playlist ready when we walk in. You're idiot, bro. Which how you want to shout. Shout you out when you walk in tonight.

[B]

Just.

[A]

Antoine, don't. It's your birthday, though.

[D]

It's. That is.

[B]

It's not my thing.

[A]

That was crazy. That was absolutely crazy.

[B]

She get a couple singles.

[A]

Got that song. Come on.

[B]

Right there, right? Soon as it came on.

[A]

Throw $2 a couple singles, you going look like Adam 22 in Star.

[C]

Played a lot of music. Jo hear the W. Don Kanan freestyle.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Well, here.

[A]

The other. I want all of y' all to mute up is what I want.

[B]

He got this one.

[A]

I want all y'. All. I want all y' all to mute up. I know y' all don't really get around. I know y' all don't really be outside like that.

[B]

Hold up for a minute. Oh, my go.

[A]

Yo, cut this off, man.

[B]

Yo, dog, nothing needs to be said.

[A]

Yo, they don't feel me, though, man. Honestly, I wish I parted with that. Felt me. This is what I'm saying. Pause.

[E]

It's crazy.

[A]

Oh, my God. This is what I'm saying, man. You've been out in the last five, six months. But because of folded and some other songs. Like, we ain't really talked about what this song does, but real niggas know. You know Breezy was gonna find out. Breezy know he be out. You think he ain't. He be in the kickback. Be right there. And when it comes on, all you gotta look at is every girl around when this song is on. I'm in a relationship. I don't play like that.

[B]

You don't look right.

[E]

You didn't even see it. I look.

[A]

But you can't. But you can't lock eyes.

[D]

Gotcha.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

Cause if you lock. If you lock eyes while this song song is on, she. Y' all gotta.

[B]

She pregnant.

[A]

Y' all not understanding because girls know what this lyrics to songs now. For real. So they staring at you.

[D]

They like, we gonna tonight girls know lyrics.

[A]

They start sticking their tongue out.

[D]

No, they start doing wild we always knew lyrics.

[A]

They start showing you all their piercings.

[B]

It's like, oh, wow, those are the.

[D]

Yes, those are just the fellas.

[B]

No, no.

[D]

If you working in the song. Come on.

[A]

Mute up this for the. That's right now, Fam. I ain't going to lie to y', all, man. Just the record. We needed a remix for with the person. We need the remix with the perth. Yes. Honestly, I hate doing this cuz the fans already got me and you ice as being the. The breezy stands.

[D]

Okay, breezy is.

[A]

But listen to this, man.

[D]

They hate that on the Internet. We love Chris Brown.

[A]

Look at Mona.

[D]

Wait, I was in the breezy.

[A]

She said they hate that on the Internet. We love Chris Brown.

[D]

When you say you like Chris Brown, they go right to 2008. It's like, girl, I don't give a about none of that. I like Chris Brown, babe. I like Chris.

[A]

Imagine this mark after the spirited conversation. Oh my God.

[B]

The spirits in your system.

[A]

Then you gotta put the spirits on. Yo, do y' all hear this? How could you not go outside tonight? And it's my man birthday. We gotta go out.

[B]

Yo, your cousin did this on your birthday? Oh my God. Yo, I ain't even pray for you. Yo, hold that.

[A]

Happy birthday cousin though.

[E]

Where's the name I got you Whole.

[D]

Lot is the name Emerald Eyes. Oh my God.

[A]

Idiot. This is crazy, man. This is crazy. We'll talk about this tonight, man. Don't worry about it. Yo, new gunna Chris Brown remix in your phone right now. Don't worry, we gonna talk about it, boy. God damn.

[D]

Since he came home, they must have.

[A]

Known bitties was gonna be on. They Must have known it, right? Like an inclination.

[B]

So you know what? Let's just throw that one out there. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be.

[A]

Now it's time for my favorite part.

[B]

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[A]

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[C]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

That's not bad.

[C]

Not bad.

[A]

Yeah, I've heard better, but I've heard better.

[C]

It's his birthday.

[A]

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[E]

Right.

[A]

Let's get football picks. Worst take, Worst take. Please, can we keep worst take short and concise, please. Yo, the audience is large and there's people out there that actually know sports listening to us. We sound dumb as hell. Let's just keep the 10 seconds. I'm gonna. I'm. I'm picking the Texans.

[C]

Same.

[A]

I'm picking the Texans. I am same. I had Patriots Seahawks. The Pats got to show me.

[B]

I had the Pats coming out the afc.

[A]

So now Sam Donald they say is.

[C]

Oblique is strange or something. They say he's going to play. I think at least that's if he.

[A]

Plays and the Seahawks are the Seahawks, then they should beat the Niners.

[C]

Yeah, if he don't play, then I.

[A]

Might if you don't play, I'm picking the Ners. Yeah, definitely.

[C]

But I think he's playing.

[A]

The Nerds are one of them teams that even though they got 100 injuries, it's not going to happen. They're going to play tough, play hard. Going Buffalo. Well, I'm picking. With my super bowl matchup of Buffalo versus the Rams, I'm going Buffalo.

[C]

You going Rams too?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going Rams. And I'm going Rams. And if I wasn't going Rams before. It's been announced that Sean McVeigh, head coach of the Los Angeles Rams, is really, really, really, really, really, really, really good friends with Matt LaFleur of the Packers.

[C]

They're all the Shana Henry.

[A]

Yeah, okay. But there clearly was Ben Johnson, Matt LaFleur beef at the end of the packers game that was highlighted.

[C]

Okay, so he's inheriting the beef.

[A]

He's inheriting the beef. There was Ben Johnson saying, yo. There was a lot of chirping from that side, that other locker room over there. Players heard it. Coaches heard it. Talking about the Packers. Yeah, players heard it. Coaches heard it. We, we didn't take. We didn't take kindly to it. We let the game do the talking.

[C]

I love.

[A]

He went right immediately after the win, he went in there and said, the Packers.

[C]

I like it and I like the Packers.

[A]

And he did that sassy handshake. I fuck with Ben Johnson a lot, but he did a handshake. So for Sean McVeigh to sit at the podium and say, me and Matt LaFleur. He's a real, real, real, real good friend of mine.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Says you know what time it is. You know what I mean?

[C]

That's an interesting point.

[A]

Real beef is back.

[C]

I'm rooting for the Bears.

[A]

Real beef is back. How big of a factor do you have weather being in Chicago?

[B]

I know.

[A]

Making a big deal about it. It's huge. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Warm weather teams do not typically. As a fan of a warm weather team, they do not typically fare well in conditions.

[B]

Dog. They said it might be the cold.

[A]

Dolphins are soft, too. The Dolphins are soft, Joe.

[B]

They said it might be the coldest day in 50 years in Chicago. They talking about potentially canceling the game.

[D]

Y' all know they can't make it warm or throw on the field for them.

[A]

Yeah, let us do this.

[D]

No, that. Cuz I got a team too that I think going to win. Who that Sand Francisco. One of my from San Francisco.

[A]

That's all chicks.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's the Only way they first.

[D]

But we lost, so we didn't do well this year. I know that.

[C]

That's true.

[D]

Yeah, and fire A.J. brown. I know that, too.

[A]

Y' all know Matt Stafford played in Detroit all them years.

[C]

He did, but it's a dope.

[A]

It's a dome. But he went home to Detroit.

[B]

And that's only one person.

[A]

And you know, man, Stafford is like a. I'm about to glaze. But Matt Stafford is one of them. He's different. He is.

[B]

He is.

[A]

Y' all heard the whole team talk about Matt Stafford on sideline when they was down with, like, 40 seconds left, when the whole team was, like, none of us was worried. We got the imp over there.

[B]

He don't run the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball, block. He don't do all that.

[A]

Okay, but there's one thing you forgetting, too. The Bears ain't never played in January.

[B]

They practice.

[A]

The Bears ain't never played in no January. With the lights bright, they be calling.

[C]

Straight Chicago in December.

[A]

That ain't January football. That ain't January football.

[C]

The Rams are a team that is built to withstand the cold. I will say that. They run the ball, play defense.

[A]

Trenches are good. You ever just watch Puka N?

[B]

You think he give a about snow?

[C]

No, you probably don't.

[B]

I don't.

[E]

He might not.

[A]

Yeah, I'm playing with a broke leg. I'm picking the Rams. Go Rams. And is there one more game I'm forgetting or did I do more? Which one? Denver. Oh, the Denver guy who plays Denver.

[C]

Denver Bills.

[A]

Oh, Denver Bills.

[B]

Buffalo.

[A]

Buy b Knicks. Enough of him. Enough of Bo Knck.

[C]

That defense is tough, but I think that I'm not betting against Josh Hill.

[A]

Sports shows. Highlight reels from sports shows in the last two weeks of January. We don't Bo Nicks enough now. Enough of you. You did it. 14 and 2. Whatever. Your record is. Enough of him. Seriously.

[E]

What's the game?

[C]

I'm forgetting past Texans. You pick the Texas.

[A]

Pick that. We pick the.

[B]

You got them all four games.

[A]

I'm getting that mention. Oh, man, it's creeping up on me. Boy, that ment.

[C]

Go ahead. Take. Take your hardball.

[A]

Oh, Round of applause. Come on, come on. Round of applause.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Round of applause. H. How. What? What's not to like?

[C]

They gave him the bag.

[B]

Yeah, they did.

[A]

What? What is not to like about this hard bowl?

[B]

How many years he got?

[D]

5.

[B]

You think he'll be there for five years?

[A]

Has that been announced?

[C]

Maybe not officially, but it's rumored to be five years, 100 million.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You think he'll be there for five?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

New York media is tough, but.

[B]

No, the Giants ownership is tough.

[A]

Yeah. I don't think they're that tough.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't think they're that tough. Seriously. I don't like. They kept coaches during bad seasons, and the people they let go was every reason in the world to let by. Joe. Sorry. Joe Judge. Sorry we're not loyal to you, buddy.

[B]

Coughman.

[A]

Coughlin was there forever.

[B]

When they fired him. It was some bullshit, but it's cool.

[A]

But he was there.

[B]

But he was there for a little season.

[A]

That was our guy. Successful.

[B]

He was cool.

[A]

Yo, you talk about what. Yo, don't play. Talk about y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

All right. This is a Giant segment. We hottest coach out there. Best coach out there. They targeted somebody. They didn't let him leave the building without having something done. It is to be applauded when. Applauded when an organization does that, especially when it's your team. So.

[C]

Yeah, for sure. And I think it was more of a situation. That's where Harbaugh wanted.

[A]

He had.

[C]

He had the power. He had all the bargaining chips. He wanted to be there, which makes sense because they have a great wide receiver, great running back, a potentially good quarterback. Everyone's young.

[A]

Pulled that. Pulled out the checkbook.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Didn't seem to as of. As of today. Hasn't had to fire the Joe Shunt. The. The gm.

[C]

He gonna have to just take a little back seat.

[A]

Yeah. Also, there's rumors of Todd Monkin coming over, so. I mean, I'm sure I like it. What's not to like?

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Go Giants. Yeah, go Giants.

[C]

Good for y'.

[A]

All. Ice, you got anybody you. You hope that y' all get. We didn't really get a lot from you and the Steelers. For you to be such a big fan and for Tomlin to be there so long. I feel like we didn't ISO you enough. Is there any.

[B]

It came at the end of the pod anyway. That's why.

[A]

But.

[B]

I like y' I all.

[C]

Cause Coach Mike.

[B]

Yeah, I like Mike.

[C]

I think we're gonna regret letting Mike go, but that's a different story.

[B]

Nah, I just. I ain't like the celebration like people good we got rid of it. Wasn't that like Mike Tomlin still did what he did? Like, thank you, Mike Tomlin. I think everybody should be saying thank you to Mike Tomlin. It's just. It's time for something different. Everybody keep telling me, yo, you gonna see now, when your team is the bottom of the barrel, I'm fine with that. I just.

[A]

Just.

[B]

I'm tired of the mediocrity. That same thing I've been preaching. So I just want to see what's next.

[A]

That's it. And they say that Mike. Mike Tomlin stepped. That was his decision.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I had that wrong last time we reported this, but there was no info out. Yeah. Mike Tomlin's decision to step away. I did it enough.

[B]

Ownership was trying to keep y'.

[A]

All go rock out. Yeah.

[B]

And then. So first it was rumored that he. He'll step away for the year, do, like, broadcasting or something. And if he decides to coach next year, Pittsburgh will still have his rights and would have to trade him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But now it's reported that he said, no, I'm done.

[E]

I'm done done.

[B]

I'm done, done, done.

[C]

Oh, he doesn't want to coach again.

[E]

I'm not coaching 19 years enough.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's done.

[C]

Yeah, we'll see how that.

[E]

A year old may change that.

[B]

Yeah, it's emotional.

[A]

I do have one final sports but kind of not sports question for y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

I don't know if y' all were able to see the. The presser that the Ravens owner, Steve Bisciotti gave. I saw a lot of clips. A lot of. A lot of clips to come from it. One where they asked him if the field goal kicker made that kick, would Harbo still be coaching? And he was like, for a week. For a week. Oh, yo, that NFL owner swag. Yeah. Is a different.

[C]

Different.

[A]

It's on some.

[B]

Nah, he was up there. They come from old money.

[A]

It's very, very different.

[B]

They come from some. Some other shit.

[A]

He was fly, though, up there. He was fly. But anyway, what I wanted to ask you guys about was he said that when he leaves the earth, he has no plan on leaving the team to his children. He says he has seen that bring nothing but turmoil to siblings, nothing but beef over money. He said he heard Jerry Jones the other day say that he would give a limb for a Super Bowl. And he said when he's that age, he does not wish to feel that at all. What do y' all feel about him saying, I'm not leaving my team to my kids, bro.

[B]

A lot of billionaires say the same.

[A]

Shit, but what do you think about the thought? Like, what do you think about that train of thought thought?

[B]

I think it's whack. But a lot of them had the same sentiment, so maybe they get to Something when you get that. I've never touched sniffed that level of money. But a lot of them say that Bill Gates, all them niggas be like, yo, I'm not leaving my kids with shit. I think it's crazy. And that maybe because we're black, we gonna definitely think that that's crazy because we so far behind the bus that we want our lineage to catch up. I think it's asinine. But for this dude here though, I'm sorry, I ain't really mad at it. Cause one, he gave his reasons. Like, I've seen it tear families up. This, that, and the third one. Two, that's not my only source of money. Like, I could still leave them some bread. I could still leave them other things. It's just the team.

[E]

It's just not the team.

[B]

Yeah, the team. I've seen this happen and this fucked the family up. I don't want to fuck the family up. Y' all do that with whatever else we got going on and the team, I do something else with it. I could sell the team for $4 billion and leave them that. But now I want them four. Yeah, he's not saying I'm clipping y'.

[D]

All and you know which one of your kids are dumb. He might have said all that, but he might know he got some dumb kids. It's like every, you know, you could try your best with your children, but they gonna turn out how they turn out. I mean, how many times do people do their best by their kids and they still go the way they want to go or the first half of their life is horrible, then they get it together in the end. If anybody know they got some dumb ass kids, it's the that made them. I'm not giving these dumbass kids this so they can this up.

[E]

Yeah, I think think you. Oh, go ahead.

[B]

Sorry.

[D]

I mean, I'm gonna just set them up. You just set them up for them to be okay. Like every kid is not a business person. I've seen some of the media moguls leave the station to the kid and they fighting because dad's a Republican. He only, you know, like that kind of. Now the kids all liberal. Got two kissing on the commercial. You don't even want that. You owe these two kissing on the you built. I told these don't go that route. They don't listen that it's true though.

[B]

Oh, you right.

[D]

I didn't see that term network for them children. And they just do some crazy shit with it. Now you old and mad. You Know you won't care. It's true.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

I agree with you, Mark. You were saying?

[E]

I got nothing to add.

[A]

On that note. I was waiting for her to end.

[E]

Just to toss the ticket after that.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

I will say this. I think we all have a duty to make sure our kids are okay. Billionaires, kids tend to turn out just fine no matter what.

[B]

Is that a fact?

[C]

Financially.

[E]

Financially, I'm talking about. I'm saying, like, they don't. Very few billionaires lead their kids with nothing. Their idea of I'm not leaving you with much is I'm leaving you with just 20 million. You know what I mean?

[B]

I'm leaving you with this $200 million and that's all you gonna get.

[E]

Yeah. Literally, that's how it be. So I'm not leaving no sleepover. What was interesting to me was the second part of it. Cause the first part is like, you know, these kids fighting over it.

[B]

Cool.

[E]

But he also said, I don't wanna be in that Jerry Jones mentality of like, I would cut my limb to.

[A]

Win a Super Bowl.

[E]

Like, almost like, I don't want the last days of my life to be spent stressing about this thing just so that I can give it to them. You know what I mean? I'm gonna do what's best for me. Like, my dad went before he died. He had properties. He sold them. We encouraged him to sell them all so that he could enjoy that money and he could live with it. Right. Cause he didn't. And not be stressed about managing it. Everybody's life is different. And we turned out fine. If we were a different life situation, I would say something different. But the point is, it's okay to make choices about your life to make you okay. Okay. And not always think about the kids. As long as the kids are going to be okay.

[A]

That's my question to y', all to close this topic out. That was interesting you just said that, Mark. Because I've had these talks with my mom and with my parents. As you age, dipping into your savings to live for yourself versus Right. Leaving it all to the kids. Like, what do you. What do y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

What do y'. All think y' all will be.

[B]

Spin that shit for me. It's a little bit of both for me. It's a little bit of both. I don't want you to be in poverty. I don't want you to be lacking or going through a season of lack for your. For me. Like. But I also. I just think that it's important we talk about some of this stuff and how it affects our communities. I think it's important. Important to build our communities up by leaving some shit for the legacy. But I do want you to enjoy yourself. I don't want you to be going like you out here on some bullshit. No, enjoy your money live. You know what I'm saying? I just think it's 50, 50.

[A]

It's a nightmare of mine to be 70, 80, some balling out of control on the money that I work so hard for. And then some of my kids or my wife or somebody come whack me over there. That's a nightmare of mine. Yo, and just out the blue yesterday on doc on the ID channel, just yesterday on the ID channel was the story of Lorenzo. Lorenzo, right, right. From the. From the Memphis grizzlies, who. Oh my God, rest in peace to Lorenzo, right? He. Are you kidding me? That's my guy. He had just told his man. Yo, man, enough of these girls. I think I'm about to go settle down, get back with my wife, do this thing right. She in Memphis setting up to murder him with the gardener that she was. That's one of the stories I forgot about. Like, I knew about it. But as you watch it. Yeah. Nah, don't kill me while I'm you. I shoot a relative. You can't ball too hard.

[D]

That's why you got.

[A]

If your family look at you, not your family, but people general look at you like they can't. The only way they could get it by getting rid of you.

[B]

They got a wolf start.

[A]

Oh, my Lord.

[D]

You gonna be on point. You gonna see it coming. Cause you watch do kill the out.

[A]

Of one of these.

[D]

Listen, I'm waiting.

[A]

Are you crazy? Y' all better wait till I'm gone.

[D]

I'm gonna be fighting the case.

[A]

Oh, my God. Anyway, any who Mark's man. Mark's man Anton Daniels seem to get into it a Get into a something with Corey Holcomb. He went on his podcast and boy, that was a lot of fun. So I'm gonna play some clips from it because it was interesting.

[B]

I'm answering a question. Okay, I'm gonna answer your question. It depends on the circumstance. And the interesting thing about it is this, the majority of the people because you like to use a blanket statement that's like me saying all black people are stupid. Well, you have. You said all white people stupid. No, I'm talking about. You should say that one time because it's easy to say all black ass was stupid as an example. Say something about the white people.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, you're not.

[B]

I don't think you.

[E]

All the time.

[B]

Well, I didn't hear you. Can you tell me? Literally being the biggest enemy of the United States of America.

[A]

That's the thing I say every single.

[B]

As a female, the biggest. Literally white.

[A]

I started it from earlier in the fight, but I think it's all important.

[B]

To hear what about their men. But we gonna get there.

[D]

Because you.

[B]

You keep trying to get me to qualify it by participating and joining in on the court. I think you're doing what's easy. No, no, no, no, no. I'm doing what's real. I think you don't want to go against them.

[A]

Somewhere in there, it seemed like there was a conversation that they were trying to have.

[B]

Talk about your boss. I don't have a boss. We say that. We say that. But here's the truth. I don't have a boss. It's a reason you go after black males or black people quicker than you will go after white males. What are white males responsible?

[A]

Here we go. Here we go.

[D]

Accountability.

[B]

Smoke giver. I talk about everybody. I'm just saying. I ain't heard you talk about white men. Well, you've been up here.

[D]

You ain't been listening.

[B]

You ain't been listening. I've been listening to you. I just haven't. I hear you. You don't have the capacity to be able to listen, cuz you too busy. No, no, no, no, no. You got me wrong. You too busy. That you just criticized. That's an opinion. Here's the fact. Have you seen something about Caucasian males and how they destroy this nation? Woman, let's. Let's slow down because you. You talking loud, but you're not saying a lot. No, you talking. Caucasian, man.

[D]

I'm not.

[B]

Bring it down.

[D]

I'm not getting into that.

[B]

You dancing around it. And that's why I lose respect for you when you start dancing and kissing Caucasian males ass.

[A]

Oh, here we go.

[B]

Don't do that in front of me because I'm not an ass.

[A]

We got action.

[B]

Nobody. You suck the dick of black people right now.

[D]

You doing it.

[B]

What you do? Let me tell you what you do. I don't see nobody tell you. Yeah, you do.

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

You doing it right now. Believe me when I tell you I don't do that. Tell you I don't do that. Listen, listen. So don't come at me with no dick, suckers. I'mma give you the same energy you give me now.

[A]

He's switching seats with his co host so they could be face to face.

[B]

Right next to each other.

[A]

Furniture moving. That's right.

[D]

The nose to nose scene.

[B]

Give a about. No. Well, I tell you what, watch that dick sucking. Cause that'll go bad. Call it what you want. I don't do no dick sucking.

[D]

I say a lot of that.

[B]

I don't with either. Okay, but. But that. That gay. Hey, homie, don't put no on me.

[A]

At this point, Corey is all in Anton's face. They're like doing like a Zeus face off.

[B]

Dance around it. Dance around it.

[D]

No, no, no, I'm.

[B]

I don't do. No, I'mma respect you, cuz it's your platform. And I flew out here to have a conversation. We good. I did already.

[D]

I don't need this microphone right now.

[A]

Right now.

[D]

Going back.

[E]

I don't give a.

[B]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

I'll pause it.

[C]

Caucasian man tearing families apart.

[D]

I have a question, fellas.

[A]

Again.

[D]

Who is this nigga? This guy.

[E]

Okay, so Anton Daniels is a popular, especially on YouTube, like commentator, right wing. Got a lot of critical stuff to say about black people. He's the one who interviewed Brian McKnight that called me out.

[D]

Okay, but he's also like. Some may say he is a raging. Right. Is he one of them where it's like he say shit cause he know we gonna get upset and then we push?

[E]

I don't think he's a rage bait. I think he believes that shit.

[D]

Oh, he really does.

[E]

I do. I don't. I don't like what he says, but I think he believes it.

[D]

Oh, okay. That makes me think differently about the argument, but whatever, go ahead. What was y' all about to say before I say something else?

[E]

So I went in. So when I saw the headlines, it was like, Corey Holcomb checks Anton Daniels. Corey Holcomb was about to whoop Anton Daniels ass. And as somebody who hasn't been a fan of Anton Daniels, I pleasantly wait to see that. But honestly, Anton didn't come off bad to me. He stood his ground. Like he didn't look like no nuts.

[D]

He like no bitch.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I personally, and I don't know Corey Holcomb either, but it looked like Corey thought he had an easy one. He was just gonna go chump him and kick him off the stage. And when dude was like, nah, like, you know what I mean? He was calm, but he didn't back down. I actually thought it made Corey look bad.

[D]

Yeah, because he Says we can go out back to fight. The thing after that is okay. Come on, nigga. If somebody. Somebody.

[E]

First of all, it don't take that long to fight.

[D]

He says to him, oh, you suck the dick of black people. I wouldn't give a. If he said, you suck the dick of a person that doesn't even have opinion. You suck the dick of an orange. You can't say to a black man, you suck a dick. You know what I mean?

[E]

Or anything.

[D]

You can't. I'm talking about me, a person, a talker. I'm getting in an argument. I watch that because somebody will clear you for that. Like punch you or get really aggressive. Philadelphia, you can't call a man a. You can't. Sometimes you can't call me a. You can't say kiss my ass to certain kind of men. And you cannot say, suck my dick. I know certain men that no matter what you say, that they're going to put their hands on you. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. If you tell somebody you kiss they ass and he respond with, you suck they dick. I'm saying y' all in the same conversation.

[B]

That's all I'm saying.

[D]

Trump ass with dick.

[B]

No, see, that's why I think. That's why I think it was. It was a disconnect. I think everything was cool at first until he said, yo, you be. You be kissing these white men's asses.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is an insult.

[A]

Right.

[B]

For now. So I could say, no, but you suck black men dick. I think depending on where you from, we don't look at them like they're equal. And some niggas do look at it like it's equal. Like, oh, you disrespected me. Now let me throw a jab back at you. I don't think he would have told him, you suck dick if he wouldn't have said that. If he wouldn't have said jabba. That's what I'm saying. So I think they are equivalent, depending on who you talking to. The bad part. Not the bad part. But once he said the suck dick shit. Now your ego and your pride get into it. You gotta get.

[A]

Get up.

[B]

You gotta walk over there. And surprisingly, homeboy was like, yo, my.

[D]

He turned, bro. He spent his whole chair on you, boy.

[B]

What are you doing? He was like, yo, dog. Like, I'm not. I'm not scared of you at all.

[D]

And as somebody, like, I'm not. I don't watch Corey Hole. Corey Holcomb. Comes off harsh to me. So I don't. And I like dark humor. I like like that. But some of that is too rough. When he was like going, him and Jess had a thing, just hilarious. And he was going real hard on her. It just turned me off. I stopped really watching after that. But I will say that for me as a black person, especially an angry negro like myself, when I see stuff like that, the same way I was real impressed by Glasses Malone with him having this debate with this guy that says all that I hate obvious. I'm expecting you to whoop his ass if it get that far. I'm expecting for you to beat him up or you to at least look like the tougher guy. You see those kind of guys on Internet and they talking all that and they see and they have all this virtual for us, us. And then they might, you know, say certain things about white people. You convertently start to hate them. We. I hate people like that. I don't care. I feel like certain conversations with black people when we pulling each other up needs to be done in certain spaces. I don't think that that's a place that you do that at. I've never agreed with that. You'll never see a post of mine from 10 years ago saying, oh, I hate when we do this or black people so dumb. I don't even talk like that. I don't think it's. It's progressive to like our movement and the shit we go through. And I think that we supposed to pull each other up in certain spaces. You can't do that in front of. Of white people. That's why I hate like that. You know what I'm saying?

[E]

I want.

[A]

Oh, go ahead.

[B]

I've seen, I've only seen the dude Anton a couple times. Like he mentioned me in a couple of his shits.

[E]

Did he like you? Was he positive?

[B]

Yeah, I mean he, he ain't. When he went at you were sending it to me and he said some shit like yo ish. Yo ish. I with you. Like why? Cuz I was.

[D]

I don't know.

[E]

How'd that make you feel?

[D]

That's a bad. I even see him.

[A]

No, no, I love is.

[B]

No, when I was, when I went to go defend Mark, he was like, yo dog, dog, chill. Like sit this one out I with you type. But the stuff I only heard him.

[A]

Go defend my wig on one of the pods.

[B]

Me, I went to defend Mark in one of the pods and he was like, yo, chill.

[A]

Oh nigga, I thought you finally Was sliding. Nigga still won't slide.

[E]

Nah, he was a knock for that week.

[A]

He thought he slid for far. Oh, you mean you said the dm. You wrote a strongly wordy to go, yo, but I get what you're talking about.

[B]

And then I said, some real estate up here, some finance shit up here one time. And he took it and clipped it and expounded on it. But those are the only two things I've ever seen in his. Outside of that, I'm unaware of his content.

[A]

Freeze. Who won this exchange?

[B]

I don't think neither one of them won, honestly.

[E]

Oh, I disagree.

[B]

I disagree. I don't think nobody.

[E]

If somebody try. If somebody get up to chump you and it don't work, you gotta still troll. Then you up.

[B]

But see reason why, because that clip continued. Me too. And he kept telling them like, all right, say it again then. Yeah, say it again.

[A]

He did.

[B]

He did say like. He did say say it again, but.

[D]

When he didn't say it again.

[A]

It is.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Nobody won. Yeah, let me tell you why. You got out your chair, you walked over to this man and you started to attempt to chump him off. And every time he said, say it again. Say it again. That nigga still said we could go outside right now.

[A]

Yeah, he didn't mutter. He.

[B]

When he said, said it again, like, yo, nigga, we could get up and take this shit off and go right outside. That was his reply. So it wasn't like, yo, say it again, I dare you. And then he coward. He didn't.

[A]

Coward.

[B]

He's like, yo, say it again.

[E]

But he's not gonna say it again. Excuse me, my real quick. To me, this is part of being mature. If I just said if.

[B]

I know all these cameras. It was like the camera, but not just the camera.

[D]

Nothing matures, nothing immature happened.

[E]

No, I don't know. I don't think Anton was immature here again.

[B]

Me either.

[A]

No.

[D]

Telling somebody to kiss their ass.

[A]

Well, you're only saying that cause he just slid you a couple months ago. You watching your commentary.

[E]

You almost happy.

[B]

Yo, I listen.

[A]

Do I gotta show you how this done with? When you don't fuck with the niggas that you talk about. Cause I don't fuck with either one of these niggas.

[E]

But I'm objective and I'm going. I'm going say like. Like I said, I wanted this to go a different way. I want him. But it didn't go that way. And I don't want no violence. I just Thought after hitting play, it was going to be something else. I don't be want, I don't be wanting real life violence.

[B]

Hey, yo, if, if, if Corey Holcomb would have knocked that dick loose, you would have been like, yay.

[E]

Why does it always go to error? How do you always end up with dick?

[D]

That's a old Virginia old man.

[A]

Don't say that again. Don't say that again.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

I exclus myself.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

See, now look what you did.

[E]

You started, but I was making a point, right? My point was, I think the mature thing of Anton was, look, you told. You obviously feel disrespected by this. I'm not going to just say it again to antagonize you. To me, that would be rage bait. Look, if you feel like I disrespect you on your platform, I'm not going to say it again. But you're also not going to try treat me like a pussy is what he basically said. I respect that. And then when dude kept talking like, say it again, he was like, we can step outside if that's really what you want.

[C]

What does a loose dick even look or feel like?

[E]

All I know is it don't seem like neither of them was particularly interested in fighting. But Anton never said he was. He was just defending himself. And Corey could have followed him. He was moving slower than the groomsmen when it was time to actually do that shit that says, I don't think anybody wanted to.

[D]

He looked so stupid. And I, I feel bad for that girl on there because every time Cory go too far, she just deer in the head like. Like she don't know what to do. You don't know your partner. And I think it's funny that I don't care where from. It's always the end of the. I'm from Detroit. Like, yeah, I'm from Jersey City. I'm from the Bronx. Like everybody.

[B]

I don't like that part.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Should I continue? Should I continue the clip?

[D]

Go ahead, please.

[E]

Just a little more.

[A]

There's another clip I want to play too. Let's see.

[B]

I show you. I ain't doing it for, for the Internet.

[A]

Yeah. Let me ask you before I play this, does it matter at all to anybody that this is content on Corey's show? Cuz I'm conflicted, right? Like, if it's my show and we about and we turning up, then no matter what, you ultimately I win. No matter what. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Also because it's my show. If I buck up and you don't cow then I gotta punch in your face.

[B]

No. Outside of it being your show.

[A]

Now, Anton has security there. They both alluded to.

[B]

Don't disrespect me like that. If you want to say Anton, don't disrespect me like that. I'll respect you, but don't boss up.

[D]

On me because you said a lot.

[B]

Of to me today that I don't with either. But I let that shit ride because you don't know me.

[E]

Right?

[B]

You don't know me. So I'm to extend the same respect to you. You called me out of my name. You said some wild. Especially with regard to how they call this out his. I'm telling you that you did.

[D]

You can't tell me how I get.

[E]

I got a question from bro.

[B]

Okay, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on one second. Hold on. We just getting loud. I ain't getting loud. Then don't switch seats. No, that's what I'm saying.

[D]

Cool.

[B]

But I take that as a threat. Okay, well, it is.

[D]

It's supposed to be a threat.

[E]

And I understand it was meant to be a.

[A]

All right. Anton's winning me over in this.

[E]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I said it already.

[B]

And he said you're not going to do right.

[A]

And he didn't look, he got up to go see, I like.

[E]

What are you talking about?

[A]

I don't with all that.

[B]

Let me tell you and let me you tell tell you Sucks real like, yo, we don't got to do this for the cameras. We doing this inside. Your studio is camera based. We going outside, putting our dick beaters up like men.

[E]

That's the last.

[A]

That's the last one for you. I know it's your birthday. Hands is shorter. Yeah, you getting carried away today, fam.

[B]

What I'm saying is this what 50.

[D]

Is like running our dicks up, suckers.

[A]

God damn. If you throw up your dick suckers.

[B]

And knock your dick loose. Dick beat us.

[A]

No. And then before you said knock his dick loose, yo.

[B]

But anyway, a lot of would be like, nah, it's too much crowd. Let's walk around the corner. Of course, like, yo, dog, let's go around the corner. We don't got to do this right here.

[D]

You.

[B]

You making a scene. You having all this commotion. Let's walk down the block.

[D]

Plus they both thick as. They can't fight back. There ain't no room.

[A]

Well, now, see, that's where I wanna jump in here. Last week we was talking about Whatever we was talking about. And Ice was on his fucking. I hate when he get all Kumbaya when it's two niggas that we love, Beef. And he was like, yo, man, just don't wanna see nobody fight. And I was like, well, sometimes I do. And he said, name something. This is another example of two niggas. I would've loved for them to fight. I would've absolutely loved for these two niggas to fight. Cause Antonio was tough, but his arms is about short. Like, it's like this. And then Corey Holem seemed like at some point in his life he was tough. But he's older now, so it's. He's working from his brain.

[B]

I want to see these two fight. I don't.

[D]

I didn't.

[A]

They wasn't about to slide like nothing.

[B]

If they would have went in the backyard, I would have appreciated it. I don't want to see them fight because it makes us collectively look stupid, in my opinion.

[A]

Cory, you wasn't sliding nothing.

[D]

I hate when we talk do that. Why two podcasting fighting make us look dumb. We did Joe Button show.

[E]

You know why?

[B]

Because people. Because people from outside look at us collectively. They don't white people.

[D]

And I don't care what they think.

[B]

I'm talking about whoever they give. You got to go sit in somebody's room for a contract. And you in the middle of a contract negotiation or dispute, and they looking at you like.

[A]

No, they looking at you like, yo, Corey Holm and Anton Daniels, they did.

[B]

They it up for you, yo?

[A]

Yeah, sorry. Get out.

[B]

I was just about to give you that deal.

[A]

Get up.

[D]

My office going to give you a podcast. 360, but yeah, just cuz of Anton 2 Wrestling.

[E]

But we do look stupid out. I mean, especially the. We argued over. I mean, at some point and it's. Myself included, right? We all those of us who engage in these type of dumbass arguments. That's what I'm saying. Myself included, right? You get an argument over words at 40, 50. It's stupid. And you. We end up ultimately looking stupid. It's not worth fighting over. You know, somebody. I mean, even my argument with Flip, like, honestly, I. I wasn't. My mind didn't go to fight until he stood up.

[A]

Really shed a bad light on the company.

[E]

Totally made your fun podcast look different.

[A]

Seriously, ain't that what you say?

[D]

Who, us?

[B]

Yeah, like dog.

[E]

But I'm saying, even that day, I didn't. I wasn't feeling anything. It wasn't until he stood up that I. That My. That a switch went. That. That a different switch went off for me. What I'm saying is had to hold.

[D]

On my belt loop.

[E]

No, I'm not saying I didn't. No, no.

[B]

You went in third with the switch sucker. You was driving normal. And then you.

[A]

You.

[B]

You got it up there about.

[E]

I'm not saying I wasn't mad, but I wasn't thinking like actual like throwing hands from words. But I was there even if I wanted to. But my point is words shouldn't be setting us off. And I think we at an age now where he said suck his dick or he said you suck dick. That's some dumb to be fighting, rolling around the ground, moving furniture for myself. And it's just dumb.

[D]

That's the first thing that stood out. It's like I hate when Joe makes that face because it's not like they're. They're there don't get that the argument doesn't get to the height of it. They about to rumble over what they're really here for. Why the are you right caving for the white man? Y' all getting you something. You said it's like. It's stupid, but I don't know. I would appreciate it if he would have punched him. They didn't have to fight, but they could have moved around a little furniture, a little sweat for me. You know what I mean? And because this is the thing and I. And no shade to y', all, but I hate when we. Some of us sit up here and it's like, oh, I don't want to see any violence on it. It's like pot like that. You don't have to pie to have an argument potted for two, three years I've never argued in front of the camera. You don't have to pot and disagree and get to that point. Certain people pod that way. And then it's like when get it's. That's where the it leads to. When you do it that way, it's like your opinion could be yours. M could be mine. We don't have to but a stick you and with you and play. You know what I mean? So it's like, you know, I don't.

[B]

Know what you mean.

[D]

You can't at home talk about it because y' all watch it. If you didn't watch it, wouldn't do it. People are at that point now where they setting up the rumble. They setting up like that cuz people like it. I think it's corny. I feel. Feel like I could be entertaining Just popping my. I ain't really gotta disrespect nobody for real. I don't have. I'm very good at disrespecting and making.

[A]

Too much money now to hit you when the camera is rolling.

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Like he is for sure. Sorry. Well, I don't know how much.

[D]

You ain't gonna get much.

[A]

They might still be broke enough to scrap.

[D]

My laptop was 100.

[A]

I. I ain't nah with a camera on. Sorry. Sorry, buddy. Sorry.

[D]

So a run over the camera, punch you in your face, you walking off.

[A]

Oh, no. He initiated the fight.

[D]

Oh, okay. Okay. Is that how that goes? Yeah, write that down.

[B]

Juice.

[A]

Yeah, he initiated the fight. I'm talking about me hitting somebody while a camera is rolling. So that could be a battle for the next two years. I agree with you.

[B]

So that was not.

[A]

What's not.

[B]

No, no, no. So that when you go in Amazon's office or when you walk in whomever's office and they looking at you like the nigga that was punching somebody on camera.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You get what I'm saying?

[E]

When you go to.

[B]

I'm assuming that both of these guys are trying to. Trying to increase their media presence in their. In their empires. I'm sure. So why the would I do that on somebody's camera? So now it's footage that's gonna live on the Internet forever. I don't want to do that.

[D]

Malcolm has no reason to tight. He already the rawest, the dirtiest, the nastiest you can get. So if he gonna get the deal, he gonna get it. He type of like that type of. He do and say he has to fund his own cause. People don't stand. A lot of people don't want to stand behind his.

[A]

No. That little folding target table and chairs years is his peak.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like I'm just. I mean really, it's. It's his subject matter. What Corey got going is what the he gonna have going. That's not hate on the. He don't move. He doesn't put out like he wanted to be no better. He does the Corey Holcomb thing because.

[A]

He gonna say some nasty and because recently the. The long folding tables come 16 inch. They long now you can get them in any size.

[D]

Bro. That was like my daughter and her mom like. Like that. That. Yeah. No dove commercial for you. Pop Pop.

[A]

Like you don't. You don't never even see Cory with a shape up no more. That's how bad he. He like. He don't look like he pick A cologne before he leave the house.

[D]

And don't nobody want to go back.

[A]

I'm not trying to be funny.

[E]

I'm just saying, look at.

[D]

It's real.

[A]

I'm not trying to be funny at all. No beef with. I don't have a horse in the race. I think the fight would have been.

[D]

A draw, and it was going to smell like feet.

[E]

We beat each other senseless.

[D]

A draw in this with a smoke like feet in the beginning of the fight in the end.

[A]

But Anton, you do get. You do get respect for standing up and trying to take it outside.

[D]

Not for me. You do.

[A]

You do it still. You.

[D]

You and your brain.

[A]

It's still both of y'.

[D]

All. All of y'. All.

[A]

That would happen with me.

[D]

It's so hard to watch from up here.

[A]

Well, I wouldn't have been around. No. Like, my thing is. And lastly, in closing is that that one person flew to the other person to have a talk. And this is what it right.

[B]

And he said that too. He's like, fam, you. You brought me here to discuss certain shit on your platform. That's what I came here for. So cool. You've been. You've been saying disrespect. I ain't see the interview, but he said, yo, you've been disrespecting me all day, and I've been letting it rock.

[A]

And Corey tried to talk crazy after homeboy left, too. Let me see if this is.

[E]

Funny.

[B]

I like. I like this chat. Let me tell y' all why I like everything but his.

[A]

No, I'm fast forwarding. Yeah, hold up. Because he did kick him out. Hold up.

[D]

Oh, he kicks him out.

[A]

Well, he walks off.

[E]

He walked off.

[B]

I said you felt offended by it, so I apologize.

[D]

Tricky word.

[B]

All I'm doing is rehashing the conversation that happened. Why you so easily offended? We just didn't talk about me. It sound like I'm arguing because I'm right.

[D]

See, I'll be around.

[B]

And they tell me about myself all the time.

[A]

Anton's getting up.

[B]

That don't hurt no feelings. It's probably better this way because. Because I just proved my point. Be down. So you proved the point, homie just gone, man. Just gone, man. You didn't did this before. Hey, homie, get your ass to on and walk over there with you.

[E]

You can't say that Once a nigga leaving.

[B]

Walk over there with your bodyguard and your. Oh, I got to do.

[A]

I just slayed him.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

A dog that you ain't gonna Stand on dog.

[D]

He said, lady, if you got a.

[B]

Would you explain the.

[E]

Anton's leaving.

[B]

Can she be on the show? I don't know that. Oh, oh yeah. Now get your whole ass the on and pay for your. Like you got too. Yeah, cake ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

See sweet ass bodyguard, cuz the be to slap the out your ass.

[D]

You can't do that.

[A]

Come on, come on, come on.

[E]

And the boy was going by. That's what I'm saying. Like to me, a lot of wolfing, man.

[B]

It's a lot of wolfing.

[E]

If, if. If I had never heard of Anton Daniels before and Cory Hul, I'd say I'd with Anton based on that video. Just based on how he. How he carried it. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

But we did and we don't. So facts and facts.

[E]

But is is that should corny.

[A]

What else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else?

[E]

I was watching this interview. I think y' all saw J. Prince put it up. It was the old interview with Hov and Turay. Did y' all see this?

[C]

I did see it, yeah.

[A]

I think I did.

[E]

And Ture is basically Jay Z was shouting out Scarface, showing love to Scarface. And Ture was like, scarface, he only got one flow. And then Jay Z proceeded to explain to him why that was the dumbest in the history of the world. Do you hear what he's saying in that flow? Do you hear what he's doing? Even if he had one flow, that's enough. But also you wrong. He don't got one flow. And I saw Turay in the comments when somebody was like, this is a terrible ass take. And he was like, yeah, it was. I mean he owned it. Cause how could you not? Cause they was killing him on that shit. But what made me think is like for y', all, what is the worst take y' all have ever had? Not necessarily on music, on anything, especially as public people. What's the dumbest shit you've ever said? That when somebody 10 years now pulls it up, you're gonna be as embarrassed as he was about that Scarface.

[A]

I said a lot of stupid. It's so much one that comes to mind is that Scoot Henderson should be considered as the number one pick before Victor. Women. Yahoo. I mean women. Yeah, I said that. That was bad. That was real bad. I said I had a real bad one recently. It was real bad. It'll come back.

[B]

Prostate was bad.

[A]

Bad, huh?

[B]

I said your views take was bad.

[A]

But yeah, I don't think that's the worst. That was bad, Joe.

[B]

But.

[A]

Oh, go ahead. I'm talking about like, egregious takes. Like I said, Chance is going to be the next Drake. Like, that's a. That's a bad.

[B]

I just told y' all take as it ages earlier in the pod that I said with. I said, J. Cole's never dropped an album. That might be.

[A]

It's got a lot of these. I know your bowl. Bowl take.

[B]

It wasn't bold bad.

[A]

It's atrocious.

[B]

It's not.

[E]

What. What's your bull.

[B]

Bull take, bro, I ain't doing this with you.

[E]

That's the point of the segment.

[B]

No, cuz y' all spend 37 minutes on it and I don't feel like doing it.

[A]

It's your birthday.

[E]

We would not do that on your birthday.

[B]

I said that Bo. Bo has similar skills, if not better than when Benyama. He just ain't been used in the way that Wembanyama has been used.

[E]

I. I withdrawn. Your honor. Yeah. That was terrible.

[B]

And, and, and, and, And a week later, guess who said it. Shaq and all the rest of them.

[E]

Don't they got similar skill sets. I get what you're saying.

[D]

He doesn't think it's a bad take. You gotta.

[E]

He gotta take that.

[D]

Not y.

[E]

Boom, Mona.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

What's the take that you think was trash?

[B]

I got a bunch. I think that when you sit up here and talk for 20 hours a week, you gonna say some.

[E]

Which one was an example?

[B]

That I don't know off the top of my head, but it's a bunch.

[E]

I got a lot of them. Okay.

[B]

Got a bunch of them.

[D]

Give us one.

[B]

I think it's cool.

[D]

I noticed this. My. He not doing that. He's not doing that.

[E]

I got two.

[A]

Racism. One was bad, too.

[D]

What? Racism One.

[E]

That's actually. That's what it was. What racism?

[A]

It's my man's birthday, so I'm not doing that. But that was another one. Cause he can't seem to think of any. That was real bad, too, what you had.

[B]

Mark, you said you had two of them.

[E]

Yeah, that draft with Wiggins, Jabari Parker and Embiid. I was really strong. Andrew Wiggins, superfood as the number one. I was worried about Embiid's injuries. I thought Embiid would be number one. I thought Wiggins was gonna be the offensive. I thought he's gonna be like a consistent All Star player.

[B]

It's not a bad take.

[E]

In retrospect. It wasn't Like a stupid take, but it's one I regret. I also thought that Jayson Tatum was going to be only slightly above average because he. I was following that trend to like Duke players that like play that turn out to be really good college players and complete NBA players, but not.

[A]

Oh, y' all gotta give me your shoe sizes so I could give to Jayson Tatum.

[C]

I feel like you said six months.

[B]

Ago, a year ago.

[E]

Yeah, it changed though. She changed. He. He with us again.

[A]

No, seriously, he sent me a DM like seven months ago.

[B]

We know.

[A]

All right, sorry.

[C]

I'm sure it's gone.

[D]

First of all, y' all said bad.

[A]

Takes ain't gonna do us like that.

[D]

Y' all started a topic about bad takes. Everybody talked about sports. Bill.

[A]

No, I mentioned some of my hip hop takes.

[B]

Mine wasn't sports.

[E]

Bad hip hop take is harder for me to think about. Not cuz I don't have them. Just like I'm trying.

[A]

Well, it's cuz every new hip hop album that drop, you call it album of the year and cover yourself for.

[E]

The last you or new albums come out and they get better.

[A]

Yeah, no, it was a good year. This was a good year. Yeah, this was a good year. So I'm not. I'm not jumping on that.

[E]

That's what happened. Clips came out and I said, this might be album of the year. And then I really fell in love with Chance's album and I thought that was album of the year. Cause it came after.

[A]

Here's a good take. Why don't all the men get together and carry Gervonta Davis to prison?

[E]

What's the latest?

[C]

What you do now?

[D]

He's horrible.

[A]

What did he do now? In general, they've issued a warrant for his arrest because they got him on film going into strip club, grabbing somebody by the neck and head.

[C]

Oh, Jesus.

[A]

Pulling him out. Pulling her out. Yeah. This is on video. They're waiting for him to turn himself in.

[B]

They got the marshals out like this.

[D]

His main problem is parks. I feel like, like, is his hands are bisexual. Like, you know, it's a problem. He don't got a problem hitting the in the morning or the night.

[A]

You know, you come alive in them topics I don't know about. Do you notice that about yourself?

[D]

No, I don't and I disagree. I had a take. Y' all just skipped me.

[A]

I mean, you said, what was your bad take?

[E]

I'm sorry, you're right.

[A]

We skipped you.

[E]

What was your bad take? What was your Cuz you kind of said like, we had so many. But you. You did the ish thing.

[D]

I thought you were. I really, like. Okay. Probably my worst take is I had to apologize for it. I watched a document. I mean, a comedy special by David Chappelle, and then I got on my podcast and said, I don't feel supported by gay people as a black woman. And I met white gay people, and they dragged me for four days, and I lost 20,000 followers. But I apologize because I was wrong, not because of the followers gaze. Love you guys.

[A]

That's a good beef to piece up. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, but this. This is the thing about it. I was wrong. That's not even what I. You know what I mean?

[B]

Just wrong.

[D]

Probably like 180, something like that.

[E]

And 20,000 were gay people.

[D]

I mean, I have a lot of big, huge gay following. Like, seriously. And then just because you get into it with the gays, that's not only gays that are gonna unfollow you by that. My mother called me about that. My mom. My mom has never really been to a show. My mom called, like, them people set you up. Like, you know, they call you mother and like that. You.

[A]

You can't.

[D]

You gotta correct it. If you make white gay say it and stand on it. And I did. I did an emergency episode. I apologize. And that's the thing about having a platform. I think people don't understand why it is important to apologize when you're wrong. It is important to read and find out, oh, I was wrong about that. It doesn't make you less of a woman or less of a man. It makes you intelligent. Intelligent people make mistakes and learn idiots stand on it.

[B]

I don't give a. That's how I feel.

[D]

You sound dumb. Like, I feel like I'm blessed with it, so.

[A]

Well, you killed that. And I. I agree. Parks, you got one bad take.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't like Dan when it came out.

[B]

My bad. My bad.

[A]

How could you?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Damn. All right, so y' all don't want to help Harry Tank Davis to the jail?

[B]

Oh, no. He was here, too.

[A]

Listen, someone will get hit.

[B]

That is necessary.

[A]

He's not going down without a fight. But he has to go now. So you.

[B]

You gonna go in the room first?

[A]

Like, I have zero problem, you know, in the jail.

[B]

In the jail, they send. Yeah, I mean, bro.

[D]

Can I tell y' all something? I don't want to say the girlfriend, but he was dating this girl at the time, right? And they were live, and he had scratches all over him, like, all over him. And then they were like. It was tension in there. But I knew then, oh, he really hit. Cause, like, when. You know what I mean? When you got scratches like that. Y' all in there fighting. She's not just attacking you. Y' all fist fighting. And being. He has licensed hands, I always looked at him funny then. And that was years ago. Like, he hit. He's known for that. Like, you don't even have to be his girl. You can just stay the night. He will smack you.

[A]

Well, if he's innocent, I take it all back, but I think they got enough footage of him getting it done.

[D]

Where's his old heads? Where's his, like, people? Is he on drugs? What's wrong with that, brother?

[A]

Speaking of, where is your people?

[E]

Actually, that's a great segue. Jay Leno recently opened up that his wife is struggling with demonstration dementia, which is horrible.

[A]

And we're praying for her.

[C]

We are.

[E]

Of course we are. Of course. And they've been together for 45 years. They seem to have a beautiful relationship.

[D]

Damn.

[E]

He's taking care of her 247 now. He sort of opened up and he said, like, look, you know, my. You know, I've had a great life. If this is the worst thing I've had to encounter, you know what I mean? I still had a good life. He has perspective on it. He was talking to Maria Shriver when he did the interview, though. He said that the thing that shocked him the first most was that people have been walking up to him saying, like, you know, so are you gonna get a girlfriend now?

[C]

Oh, shit.

[E]

Cause his wife is.

[C]

It doesn't seem right.

[E]

That's what I said. And then I had a spirited conversation with my wife last night, and I rethought this, you know, Is this what.

[C]

Drove you to the McAllen's?

[E]

What, Jay Leno?

[C]

Yes.

[E]

No, I actually was reading that in the bar, but it made me think, like, how.

[A]

How.

[E]

Does your partner have to be before you start to get another partner while they still living, bro?

[D]

That's touchy with the dementia because it's so many different levels of it. And I've seen people that have dementia and they still want to kiss from their husband or they still embrace, you know? Like, I've seen people that are totally out of it, but when they see their significant other, they hug, they kiss and everything.

[E]

But will she remember what I did yesterday?

[D]

She probably wouldn't, but I just feel like if you really love her and she going out that way, I don't think that you Would even be fast to go get somebody else.

[B]

But you really love her if, depending on how bad dementia is, she could be a new person every time.

[C]

Facts. You could be the new person to her.

[B]

You could just. I mean, you could role play this and turn it into something else.

[C]

You could.

[E]

I mean, all right, and if I'm.

[A]

Taking care of her, who's taking care of me? God, who else?

[C]

Does anybody else matter?

[D]

No, bro, it's sickness and health if this nigga gets dementia. And she's not dead yet. No, you can't get another bitch.

[E]

Oh, that's what Jay Leno said. He said we took a vow. I don't understand why people are so upset that I, you know, are so shocked that I would honor my vows. And I. I support that. And if my wife. Just to be clear, wife, if you get Alzheimer's or dementia or any other thing where you don't know where I am or who I am and you can't track me and you don't remember what just happened, I will be 100% without a girlfriend. Cause that's how I. Facts, however.

[B]

You can't track me.

[E]

You hear what he said?

[D]

They got married.

[B]

She don't know.

[D]

They got married in 1980, back when vows meant something. Yeah.

[E]

And I think you gotta honor those vows. I'm just saying there is another way to look at this. And I saw this with B. Smith up in New York before she passed away. Rest in peace. Some people feel like if I am so out of it that I don't know where I am, I don't want you to be without companionship. I don't want you to be alone. So, like, if I got dementia and Alzheimer's, I'm telling you, my wife can have a boy boyfriend. I don't care because I don't know where I am.

[A]

Oh, she really got the best of that spirit.

[C]

She whipped your ass.

[A]

But that's a real mature way to look.

[B]

I agree with that.

[A]

Me too.

[C]

I agree.

[B]

That's one I thought, bro.

[D]

The thought of getting dementia and Alzheimer's, all of that, it scares the out of me. And I really feel like if you really love me, take me out back like a dog and just get rid of me. Don't have me wandering around the cul de sac asking for talking to neighbors. I don't even like wandering around the ghost. I got my house dress on backwards, titties out in the C act. Get rid of me.

[B]

Oh, they ain't seen none. Oh.

[D]

This is birthday. But no, I. I don't I don't think. When you don't think about the worst ways to go, those are one of the worst ways to go for me. Like, bro, that literally you just doing your regular. You go to Target every. You miss the wild. Wild. You go every weekend now you have r farms just confused. You don't know what the going on.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[B]

But is it looking for the first coffee you love? But look outside, looking in, it might be the worst. But to the person, they don't even know how's it that bad? They don't know.

[A]

They don't know what the fr Cuz.

[D]

I've watched so many documentaries there levels of everybody is not totally z it. You might lose a day, a week, and then lose a couple days.

[B]

People in my family have had it and it starts to weigh on the family because think about somebody that you love that you would die for. And now they don't know who you are. That shit is crazy. Like, yo, they start calling you your brother name, they start calling you other people's names. That shit is right. But you're speaking from the. I'm talking about the person. Cool now the person. You wake up, you looking at all these strangers. You don't know who the fuck these people are.

[A]

Some of them, you guys, this was just supposed to be fun.

[E]

Yeah, I wanna be a little bit.

[A]

Like, we don't care about like, I just wanna have some fun with.

[B]

I was trying to be a little bit.

[E]

He got real dark and not the fuck one way.

[A]

God damn it. Never fails though. Anytime I'm trying to have fun, somebody says, my family got that. And then you gotta shut up.

[D]

Everybody got somebody within their family. It don't matter anyway.

[A]

Them on Dateline, Them white people on Dateline when they partner dying, they go crush them pills up, drug them, take this on Dayline. Them white people, people. I just thought about that when Mark was like, yo, people believe in their vows. And the vows mean something on Dayline. Them vows mean so much that they will kill you before they divorce you.

[B]

Let's move that death date up a little bit.

[A]

Oh my Lord. But that's commendable from Jay Leno.

[C]

I mean, I also think you could get her a new boyfriend slash caretaker. So we're even Steven a little bit.

[E]

Yeah, but that's a lot of first dates.

[A]

Listen, get to the.

[B]

Here, bro.

[A]

That's funny.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, we going to get us some Chippendale Hospice.

[E]

Oh, Chippendale Hospice.

[A]

You some sexy hospice worker. I'm in the Streets. You hear me? And I'm joking. I don't know if I would be in the streets.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

I don't know if I would either.

[C]

But if I would, I'd still come home at the end of the night.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Change swift. It shifts.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Right there with you.

[C]

Yeah, that's true, too. But, like, Chipping J, dude, thanks for holding me down. I'm back.

[E]

Right, Parks? So you would. Do you. You'd be okay having a girlfriend?

[C]

I would get her a boyfriend, too, though.

[E]

Okay. You said okay, caretaker because for married people, it's, you know, you took vows and shit.

[A]

We did.

[E]

We did.

[C]

You're still there.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

That's just not, like, all day.

[A]

Yeah. You know, in 20.

[C]

It's a lot.

[A]

In 26, are y' all still honoring all the shit y' all said in the wedding? Yeah, like, every part of it. N. They. In 26. The married. The married people in 26 that I see getting divorced are getting divorced over kibble.

[B]

I'm just tired of this, though.

[A]

That's. That's the only reason I asked. It's like, seem like today's married couple till death.

[B]

Well, the love died. There's the death.

[A]

We out of here.

[B]

That's how they be.

[E]

Yeah, I'm good. All jokes. I can't see me leaving. I can't see me leaving, babe.

[A]

Me either.

[E]

Off camera, Money offered a different take, which explains a great deal.

[A]

Well, Jay Leno, we praying for you and your wife. We hope that she gets better. We hope that you are all right in dealing with that, because that's got to be heavy as well. What else? Kaisernet. Kaisernet announced. Announced that he's taking a break from streaming and he's venturing off into fashion.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Oh, and he talked a lot. Roach. Fashion. God.

[A]

What do you say?

[D]

He talked to Law Roach about it. Y' all know who LA Roach is, right?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, he talked and he spoke to a lot of people. He's doing a vlog.

[B]

He's.

[A]

He's doing vlogs. They. They following him. He's. He's doing. Seems to be doing his due diligence and learning about. About the fashion textures and materials and all this fashion shit. And he says that he doesn't want to use his clout to influence whatever he's got going on now. He wants to really be a student of fashion. It may not be possible, but it's cute to say. Yeah. Honorable to say it and have a thought. Thoughts on Kai Sinat stopping streaming, Learning how to read.

[B]

Read.

[A]

There's a lot of clips, Sam. I'm not trying to be funny.

[B]

No, no, he is. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, I think I up. They're killing them for reading the dictionary.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Like looking up words is not a bad thing.

[E]

That's a great way.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's the timing of it just after the breakup. Hold on.

[D]

I'm confused about that.

[A]

About what?

[D]

He can't read.

[C]

He's trying to read better.

[E]

I'm trying to read.

[B]

So he's reading. He's reading. And then in certain words, he'll stop and grab the dictionary to look up to see. Exactly. Exactly. So I know what this word means.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's great.

[A]

And I mean, the joke of it for the people online is right after the breakup.

[B]

Yeah, that might not be an old joke. It tracks when you go through one of them breakups like we discussed, you start. No, you start finding ways to better yourself. Like start going to the gym, start jogging, start getting money. You start trying to better yourself. Like, yo, wait till she see me next time.

[C]

With all these books.

[D]

With all these books.

[B]

But I just think that it'll. It'll. It'll sit you down and give you perspective. You start doing the self reflection and it's good for.

[E]

We live in a copycat society. If we gonna copy all the dumb shit. Maybe now set an example for people to read.

[A]

True. Indeed.

[E]

And learn.

[A]

How do y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

What do y' all think about his fashion decision?

[B]

I think it's dope.

[D]

I don't know where it came from. Like, I like, it's usually. Usually when. When somebody says they want to get into fashion, usually that's kind of represented by their fashion where at least they was fly or they had a different look or whatever. I just didn't see that coming. I feel like he could do whatever he wants, though. You know what I mean? The way he stayed there. I remember bumping to him on Clubhouse because he was jumping on Clubhouse first, way before the streaming thing got like big or whatever. He really stayed down and made it happen. So I think a person like that could be successful in anything. You know what I mean?

[E]

I agree with you, Mona. I didn't think of him in the fashion world. That didn't mean he can't do it. But like, is there any indication from you, Joe, somebody who knows fashion was that intuitive to you when you. When you heard him say.

[D]

Was cool? He talked to Law Roach. It was really cool. He talked to La Roach. He just. Not a fly. There's no disrespect to him. He's not a fly nigga.

[E]

So I didn't see. Oh, that's one day Joey's gonna punch me in the face, man.

[A]

This guy, yo, he's such an intuitive to you. That's someone that knows fashion. I think he'll do well. I'm all for.

[B]

Let me start with.

[A]

I think there's more to this story. Okay. Everything I say is based on my belief that there's more to this concept and that stuff.

[C]

Agreed.

[A]

Just the timeline for me with the streamer awards. Homeboy getting accused of all that. Her looking a little off kilter.

[B]

Don't forget the mental health.

[A]

The mental health conversation right after the mental health conversation. Just a cold retirement from streaming.

[C]

That seems weird because a lot of people, including his. Whoever he's partnered with on the streaming end and people that he works with on the production end for a streaming. That's. It's a lot of money allegedly being.

[A]

That'S made over there. That's what I'm saying. Even if he wanted to. Normally when we see a pivot is. So it's because somebody read their contract and now has a way to funnel things back to them the right way across. Accordingly, they've learned from whatever just happened. And typically whoever you assigned to don't really jive with that, especially when you're a cash cow. So even if he wanted to do that, I would imagine somebody from amp or whoever he was affiliated with would be like, angry or have some emotions about it.

[B]

That's they might be. Or we could really look at this. Like, he's really going through some mental health and I don't have the. The emotional capacity to sit in front of this microphone and stream.

[A]

Oh, then it's the breakup. I forgot that.

[B]

Yeah, like.

[C]

But usually corporations, large media corporations don't give a about your mental health at all.

[B]

And it depends on how much leverage he may have.

[A]

Yo, the young people. I'm with the young people prioritizing their mental health. They drinking less. They selling less drugs. They. And getting married less. Dude, they just. They just, you know, I mean, they're.

[B]

Doing it their own way.

[A]

They're doing it. Yeah. I'm happy with them. I'm happy for them. Go Kai. Snap.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

I think he'll be great in the fashion world. Can't wait to see what else he's got.

[B]

That fashion money is insane, bro.

[C]

For sure.

[B]

It's definitely, definitely understated.

[A]

It's a lot like if you have your own line. Yeah. Like I'm talking about like your own line.

[C]

Like, that's how it is.

[A]

Like different colors, different items, all that. Yeah, I like. For real. It's crazy. It's crazy.

[B]

Something new happened, you could jump right on it, right?

[A]

Is it crazy like that?

[B]

It's crazy. Ralph Lauren, bro.

[A]

Ralph Lauren. The out of here. I need my ass that ish quarter. Well, I can't get the quarter that hard. No. North Wade, give me the quarter in a small.

[B]

Get the out of here.

[A]

Look, they hate. Yeah, look, when the hate don't work, they start telling.

[D]

He might need an extra small by something.

[A]

Yo, let me get down to small. Yo, for real. When you get free. What else? What else, what else? What else?

[B]

Yo, did y' all hear we we going back to the moon next month?

[C]

I did not hear that.

[B]

Well, first man mission. They're sending humans back.

[A]

Back.

[B]

And I'm saying back with air quotes, cuz. Yes. I'm sorry, I don't believe it. But yeah, we're going back. Back to the moon.

[A]

Well, you don't believe that we ever been to the moon.

[B]

That's why I sang back like that.

[E]

I'm sorry. I don't want to go. I don't want to relitigate this, but.

[A]

We'Re not doing it.

[E]

No, just.

[C]

Just to be clear, do you think it's fine?

[A]

You don't think.

[E]

You're not just saying we didn't do it when we initially said. You're saying never in history have. Have we been to the moon.

[B]

I don't think we put men on the moon ever. Okay. I think that moon landing was fake.

[D]

It's been on television.

[A]

Yo. Some of the contrarian shit, I feel like niggas just hold on to why.

[B]

I gotta be contrarian. I just might not believe it. That's all.

[C]

That's contrarian.

[A]

I think by definition.

[B]

No, no, contrarian is okay. Y' all all do this. I'm doing the opposite of what you. What y' all doing. Just because y' all are doing it.

[D]

We all believe we've been.

[B]

That's not what I'm saying.

[E]

You're basing on the evidence.

[B]

I'm saying I don't believe if I.

[A]

Play Neil degrasse breaking down us on the moon for Madlock, you still wouldn't give up.

[E]

Or the people like Buzz Aldrin who've been on the moon, who came back and gave the interviews and talked about being on the moon, or all the other countries.

[B]

I also watched the movie where.

[E]

All right.

[B]

It's all I could Believe I could believe either. I believe either way.

[A]

I feel like some conspiracy theories we got to grow outer. Yes, I'm as big a conspiracy theorist as they come, but some of them get dated.

[C]

I also just think they're fun. Not necessarily to be taken serious in a lot.

[D]

That's why they're not fun, cuz people take them serious.

[E]

Like none of us really think Stevie Wonder can see, right? Like we joke about it, it's fun, it makes for great stories. But like, we don't really think he'd be driving cars.

[B]

I don't think he could drive a car. I don't think he driving. But yeah, I think he could see because he's rich.

[E]

Not because he. Not because he. Because he spent too much time playing instruments. It's not cuz he's blind.

[D]

I think I'mma leave you.

[B]

Going to leave you.

[D]

I. Before you said that, I said we play around about Stevie being able to see, but nobody would walk his blind ass to the steps and walk away. And you saying you do think he can see, so you would walk his blind ass down the steps and just let him fall down the steps.

[B]

I don't think he'll fall.

[D]

Dreads first dread.

[A]

Well, they welcome to every Tiana with the award show.

[E]

That nigga got one dread left.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Nigga said dread.

[E]

Nigga said dread like a snork.

[A]

Oh, you took it back with that one. I do think Stevie can see a little bit.

[D]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

And I don't think that's as wild as we never been to the moon.

[E]

It's not.

[D]

It's not.

[C]

It's a.

[D]

Listen, it's not as concerning.

[C]

Well, congratulations, I guess, to the people that are going to the moon.

[E]

Would you.

[A]

Would you be down to go? Yeah, interesting.

[B]

I would. That's. That's how. Oh, okay. I believe it now. I would be down to go.

[E]

Would you think you were the first person once you got there, would you be like, yo, I'm the first person to move?

[B]

Oh yeah, I did. Yo, yo, it's real.

[D]

It's real.

[E]

It's real.

[D]

The whole time he only seen us and get it right up there.

[B]

It's real.

[D]

He trying to.

[C]

Do you think it's flat?

[B]

Yo, man, we not doing that, okay? We're not.

[A]

Dog went to the moon, right? No, allegedly, no.

[C]

They just went right up there.

[B]

They went up and came back.

[A]

Gil King here was a mess when she left the moon, bro.

[E]

Why came Oliver on the way back?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What else?

[A]

What else, bro? Congrats to K ed or anybody out there and the moon.

[C]

Congrats, Aldrin.

[A]

Whatever. You congrats to the moon.

[D]

Buzz Lightyear, if anybody was ever there.

[B]

Word, congrats to them.

[A]

Would you go even if your girl couldn't go with you?

[B]

Yes. Where, bro? I would go to the moon.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You think your girl let you go to the moon?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Without her?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, nigga, you got a tracker. He ain't going to the moon.

[E]

You look a little closer to Saturn. You said the moon.

[B]

That big booty bitch in the background on the right alien got long hair.

[A]

What else, what else, what else, what else? What else? What else is important, unimportant in New York? I didn't experience y' all. Verizon people.

[C]

Yeah. I didn't experience that.

[A]

Verizon sold it. Sold y' all data again for sure. Yo, it happened. So we so desensitized to it now.

[B]

That nobody don't even care.

[A]

When the new. When the news break of the data leaks, I'd be like, damn. And just keep scrolling.

[C]

Yep, yep.

[A]

They made off. Made a whole bunch of money from our Verizon. Y' all couldn't use the phone for all day. 19 hours.

[B]

No.

[A]

It was a long time. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not Verizon gang.

[C]

And I don't call people, like, likewise.

[B]

First when it went out, they thought it was all of the companies, but then I like the other phone companies shooting back. Like, T Mobile was like, we good. That's just them at. And T was all like, yo, no, no, no. No reason why it's not working. Because you call it a Verizon phone. We straight over here. And if you want to come over here, here's the link.

[A]

Can T Mobile join the phone wars?

[B]

Of course. Absolutely, absolutely.

[A]

Oh, cuz. Y' all merged. Yeah, now, right? I'm so old. I still remember when they was. They was body. Oh, man. Who they merge with again?

[C]

Sprint.

[A]

Oh, yeah. They big dog now. Big dog now. Spending big money. God damn.

[B]

Singular.

[A]

Wait till I make a phone. I'm telling you.

[B]

I'm gonna make something that meant mobile and all that.

[A]

Made up mint mobile. Remember when Ish was the last one with a BlackBerry holding on because he thought the feds was tracking him? This was the last one with the BlackBerry. I remember you, dog. I'm sorry.

[E]

He was in corporate. A lot of the Corporate people use BlackBerries.

[A]

Corporate Subway.

[E]

We had, like, a BlackBerry pen in all that.

[A]

Corporate.

[E]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[B]

Say that we all had a BlackBerry pin. And tell me something that was better than bbm.

[A]

I didn't have.

[B]

It did not exist.

[E]

I love the trio. The Palm Trio. That was my. But yeah, no, we all had be you. Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

The days. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. We did Kai.

[E]

Speaking of ages.

[A]

Oh, there we go. Thanks, Mark.

[E]

Speaking of outages, I see on the board and I know nothing about this, it says power goes out at Jim Jones Studio. Can somebody help us? Help me understand what happened.

[B]

Yeah, apparently, I mean I saw 50 Cent posted. I don't know how, I got no clue. But 50 Cent posted what looked like someone standing behind like a curtain or some shit recording inside Jim Jones Studio. And they were asking like, hey, I mean they're in there with flashlights and they're asking, you know, if we call Con Ed, can we get the power back on? And he's been making jokes non stop since he's put the clip up there with turn off the lights in the background.

[E]

Oh, Teddy P. Yeah.

[B]

Teddy P. Yeah, yeah, he went Teddy P. On.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But it's just, it's just more or.

[A]

For the people that don't live in New York, it was 15 degrees at 4:30 and 4:30am it's been cold as winter's back. Arctic cold out. It was about 19 degrees around 5. Good time to add some heat.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was, it was cold.

[A]

And then Jim is on, on it on online. Leaning into it, sitting in the darkness, surrounded by candles.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Same way he was doing the construction.

[B]

Whatever Jim, Jim said it, he was like, yo, what anytime y' all talk about learned it now I, I'm going to play the algorithm, y' all going to talk about me and I'm, I'm going play along with it.

[E]

That's a good way to lean in so that whether it's true or not don't matter. You got the out. You know what I mean? I'm sure he can afford to pay the electric bill. It probably was either a power outage that he couldn't control or it didn't happen.

[A]

But either way, niggas done had they fucking lights cut off.

[D]

But the concern need to be is who the was behind.

[B]

That's what, that's what I want to know.

[A]

Probably the same person that was on the phone with 50 giving him all of his lease information.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

That was crazy.

[D]

But I like when with that type of footage you can kind of figure it out. Especially if y' all got cameras. You can figure out who the that is. Unless you have like a open door where everybody could just come whenever, you know what I mean? As long as you, you know who being your. You can figure it out your ass with for doing that to me.

[A]

Absolutely.

[D]

I'm going to act like everything cool. You going to get in here, we going to cut the lights out on you. You going to get your ass cuz you know what you did. We ain't going to ask your questions. That's some grimy question.

[B]

Now you going to turn the lights off on them?

[D]

Yeah, we going to jump this.

[B]

You going to have a lock in the sock maybe.

[A]

That's exactly what, what used to happen in boarding school. You come come in somebody room there all the from that floor and got a sock with some soap in. They start committing to beating your ass. Oh my God, Bor. Boarding school, it was, it's like yeah, boarding school tough. Did they ever beat you up in boarding school? Yeah.

[D]

In the room in the dark?

[A]

No, in class.

[E]

Damn.

[D]

That was like a one on one though.

[B]

You got beat up in geometry.

[A]

Jonathan Isaacs.

[B]

What?

[D]

Look who on top now.

[A]

Jonathan.

[B]

You see how carry they trauma with them?

[A]

I know the name of anybody ever beat me up. Jonathan Isaacs was the 69 freshman. That.

[E]

Is that what they called him.

[A]

Well he was on the basketball team on the freshman team. And they were, they were looking to. They were looking to see if he could develop and make varsity.

[C]

You started to fight with him.

[E]

He's better at boxing.

[B]

Yeah, Joe said some stuff.

[A]

We were in class and yeah, I said something. Say it again.

[C]

He said it again.

[B]

Said it again.

[A]

I said it.

[C]

Probably worse too.

[A]

He got up first. I didn't have all the fighting tools and knowledge and oh, knowing that when.

[B]

He got up that was oh, what's.

[A]

He coming over here for?

[C]

69 guy.

[E]

Oh, right.

[A]

That dunked your dun.

[B]

I think about it, anytime I ever.

[A]

Got beat up, I got dunked like that. The funny shit. I was sitting in the desk and the desk at the time was the. Oh man, this is so old school. It was the desk that was attached to one piece.

[B]

When I tell you Joe didn't pick.

[A]

That desk off desk up in the air.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

Say it again. Put the ass and just went back.

[B]

To his seat and you got up and they say nothing.

[E]

You say it again.

[B]

Joe said it again.

[A]

I think Corey holcombed you.

[B]

He walks.

[E]

That's why he fucking answered.

[D]

He got up and moved with that.

[B]

Desk back and sat the Back sat. Right the back.

[C]

I'm sorry that happened to you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

A squared plus B squared teacher.

[D]

I honestly say I have never been in a fight where I ain't get where I didn't hit back. Like that's some ass.

[A]

Yeah, thanks.

[D]

I'm hitting you back that you going have to kill me up here.

[A]

No. Sometimes you make a business decision.

[E]

That's a fact.

[C]

You doing.

[E]

I did.

[A]

Maybe not as a man.

[B]

Sometimes calculations real quick, the numbers start falling like I guess stand up, pick.

[D]

You in your chair up and throw you. I guess that would be best.

[A]

No, he was a real 69, 610, arms down to his knees.

[D]

And now he using them long arms.

[A]

Light skinned, freckle with red hair, with anger issues.

[D]

I found out it's hard being light skinned with.

[A]

Yo, what school is that? Laurenberg in North Carolina trying to find.

[E]

We gonna find him.

[A]

I'mma find him that stop before you get mad again.

[E]

I'm interviewing from my throw that whole.

[C]

Couch off the balcony that got what.

[B]

They got doing me.

[A]

Oh my God, that is crazy. What do you mean? Cuz if he slid me, he can slid you slide you.

[B]

We different slots.

[A]

It's not n. Same part.

[D]

Y' all both slots.

[A]

Same part.

[B]

Y' all both slots.

[A]

Me see. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? His and hers.

[C]

His and hers.

[B]

Let's go, let's go.

[C]

Let's break this down.

[A]

I've been waiting to talk to y' all about his and hers since way before y' all was waiting for me to talk about his and hers. But last few pods, the whole crew was like, oh, about episode one. Yo, I just started. I'm on episode three and I'm like, all right, y' all watch it so we can talk. Talk about it. Because if there was ever. If there were ever a show made for a podcast to discuss, sure. Is this one. Six episodes. His and hers married. Married couple who done it. They open with somebody dead. You got five episodes to figure out who did it. Then they throw you 90 million curb curveballs.

[C]

That's what I hated about it. And I guess that's jumping ahead, but whatever. When they do the twist at the end and be like, psych. It wasn't that the whole time. It's like, why did I just watch six hours of this in. I hate twists like that. I hate twists like that.

[A]

Antoine or ice.

[B]

I'm not Starbucks. I want episode two. And on. On episode two.

[A]

This is about to get spoiled for you then.

[B]

Yeah, the first.

[A]

I'm about to spoil it. Like, use the bathroom, go pee something. Yeah, I'm going to spoil it. I'm telling.

[B]

But I'll tell you where. Where I left off. At the end of episode one, you knew who did it. Like, you just knew. You thought you knew who did it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then at the end of episode two, you, like, so. So far, this is fire. Because the. That is predictable. Be ass to me.

[A]

The.

[B]

That really puts your mind in the twit. That is fire. So I'm on episode two. It was. It was something. But I'm. Go ahead.

[A]

Yeah, step off it got an every night sh.

[B]

That's what I took from it.

[C]

Like I said.

[B]

Like I said. I kept trying. I haven't made it past last one. I'd just be like, all right, I'm out.

[A]

Listen, the show's been out long enough. Listen, even if I don't spoil it by telling you who did it, because maybe some of y' all still need to see it, I'm definitely gonna talk about who didn't do it. Sure.

[C]

I was intrigued off the bat by the cast. I love dude from Walking Dead and Punisher and all that. He's great all the time. Tessa is also great and love her everything. And the cop dude was in Orange is the New Black and a bunch of other shit.

[A]

He's good.

[C]

He plays kind of the same character, but he's. He's a good dude. The cameraman dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And REM had read the book, which also kind of ruined it for me too, because, like, part of the who done it fun in a relationship is both guessing who done it.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

But she knows the whole time, so it's kind of like she's just watching you guess. Yeah, she's watching me guess. I don't care for that.

[B]

Does she do to try to play along with you? Like, stop.

[A]

Don't be rude to me in this.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

By episode. By the end of episode two, I thought that it could still be Anna. I thought it might be one of those who done it. Where the suspect is. Is the one right there in front of your face.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I thought it could still be Anna. By episode three, I was off of that. When. When. When I learned that Duffy was fucking his wife and Helen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I said. Said, okay, it's Duffy. Right? Then I thought it was homeboy's sister for a second.

[C]

Okay. For two seconds, she got that little. She was a little off kind of vibe.

[A]

Yeah. And then she had the. In the drawer that was coming up. Like somebody had to have the little Friendship bracelet.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then by the time they kept going on with this friendship bracelet story and they made it seem like it had had to be one of the girls in the crew. Right. I immediately guessed who. I won't say. Which ended up being the person before the person.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, I guessed her. And I did.

[E]

I did.

[A]

By. By episode. By the end of four, I figured out who it was.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, you was right.

[A]

Yeah, I was. I guessed the last two people. I guessed the fat girl. I'm just talking about it. I guess the fat girl from the friend group. And I guess the mom.

[C]

Okay. I did not see the mom coming. And I hated.

[A]

Nobody seemed to see the mom.

[C]

I hated the way they revealed it with a stupid lettered monologue at the end. Come on, man.

[A]

Kaiser so. Yeah, they were doing their Kaiser so.

[C]

Style that is play. It was entertaining. Still, though, let me.

[A]

Super entertaining. Listen, the. The first time that they showed the mom just walking through highways. Yeah. I was like, okay, something's odd about you. Right? Gotcha, Gotcha. But listen, really good, entertaining show. I can't lie.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's quick. It's quick. It keeps you in it. Like, I don't know how these guys are.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

The episodes is only half hour.

[B]

I. I'll try. I mean, I'll try it.

[A]

Do you and is get to control the remote in Yalls house?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Or do Yalls girl control the remote? Like, y' all take a long time for certain. Like, dude.

[B]

Says the person that you can't finish a show if your girl ain't there.

[A]

Who you. Well, I like watching shows. My girl.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

All right. But, yeah, but. Nah, nah. I don't know. Just this one didn't do it for me. That's it. I'm watching and I'm getting like, ah. Next thing, I'm distracted and I'm not paying attention no more. I gotta go back again. I just. I can't. I have not made it past one.

[C]

What's good with a crazy sister too? I mentioned it briefly. The Jon Hamm show on Apple. The your friends, your neighbors or whatever.

[A]

Whatever.

[C]

That's a good show. It's only one one season.

[A]

I cut that off after. Yeah, rightfully so too. I cut it off after episode seven.

[C]

Really?

[A]

You didn't like it by episode seven? They annoyed me.

[C]

Okay, fair enough.

[A]

By episode seven, he done met the girl, is starting a robbery business. He keeps going to the pawn shop. It's like, yo, dog, get to what we get into. And Then he's escalating. He starts with the watches, then he gets to the art, then he gets to. Now he's just breaking in everybody's house. It's like, all right, buddy.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Where. Where are we going with this? So I never finished it.

[C]

I like the show. It was good.

[A]

You finished the whole thing.

[C]

I did.

[A]

I did.

[C]

It was.

[A]

Was it a good finale?

[C]

Yeah. It wasn't in their setting up season two. It's happening.

[A]

Oh, it is happening.

[C]

Yeah, it's happening.

[A]

It.

[C]

It wasn't amazing. It was kind of. It was a little bit better than his and hers. To me, it's, like, entertaining. It's not amazing. Gripping television, but it's an entertaining show.

[A]

If it were done in six episodes, I. I would agree. Okay, how many episodes was it? Nine? It might have been ten.

[C]

It might have been nine something.

[A]

They wasn't getting ten out of me.

[B]

Did you get into Hunting Party back yet?

[A]

Not yet. And I ain't gonna lie. I turned on the first episode of Hijack and cut that.

[B]

I cut that off. Oh, really? I cut it off.

[C]

I saw it sitting there by watching.

[B]

I might have made it about 15 minutes in.

[A]

I was like, cut it right off. You just got off the plane, survived. Now you on the train looking dumb in the face. I'm not doing this.

[C]

Wait, so they're just gonna make the hijack in the train now?

[B]

Yeah, from the same. You can see the.

[C]

It's like the same story, dude.

[A]

Getting on the.

[B]

Like, you see it all already. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not letting.

[A]

Them do that to me this year.

[B]

I mean, I'll get to it, but it wasn't at some point. Oh, I got to watch this right now.

[C]

I'm going watch it, but I'm not rushing to it either.

[A]

And, and.

[B]

And since we on tv, there also ain't really else. I'm not going to spoil it, cuz it probably just aired today or so, but they found they aired the series. Series finale of Power Force.

[C]

Oh, you can take this one away. Take it away.

[A]

We don't care.

[E]

I'm with Ice on this.

[A]

We're done, y'. All. We done.

[C]

You watching it too, Mark, So I.

[E]

Can'T let anything go.

[C]

You guys.

[E]

I watched Empire to the last episode. Oh, so I haven't finished Force, but I will because I started it. But I was gonna ask y' all if y' all have watched Heated Rivalry.

[B]

What's that?

[C]

No, what's that?

[E]

It's the newest rage. It's all over the Internet people are talking about it. It's a. It's a.

[A]

It's a short.

[E]

It's a series. I think it's streaming on hbo, Max. It's about two gay hockey players.

[C]

I did not watch that one.

[E]

Damn. I put his phone away quick.

[B]

No, I found it. Oh, I was like you said hbo, Max. I was trying to see where it was at. Oh, okay.

[C]

I saw them in the Golden Globes, but, yeah, I didn't.

[E]

Women are going crazy. Women are really into it. They're watching it. They say it's amazing. They're into the dudes that are playing the protagonists or whatever. But also, I hear it's just good writing and a good show.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah. So I think we should all Tom, HBO needs as a group outing. Watch it.

[A]

What's the name of it?

[E]

Heated rivalry.

[C]

I don't like the group outing part of that.

[E]

Oh, there's layers today. I didn't even mean it like that, but that's good.

[A]

Mark, you have to be joking.

[E]

Yo, I heard it's an amazing show.

[A]

I don't care about the show. Five minutes ago, you joined the 2016 challenge.

[E]

You think I did it myself?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

Look, I mean, yeah, I had auto timer. I didn't know I was sitting here, but yes, I picked the photos and the text. Yeah.

[A]

So then you did it.

[B]

You did it.

[E]

I thought you were saying. I thought you were talking about me.

[C]

Doing it on the show.

[A]

I don't know. It's just the fact that you joined this 2016. Somebody help me.

[C]

I'm lost, too.

[A]

Everybody's 2016-2016-2016-2016. I woke up and Roxy Diaz was doing 2016. Mark, you were in that one, too. What am I missing?

[B]

I think for a lot of people, 2016. Well, one we know it's 10 years ago, but why, like, they didn't do it last year for 2015, but for 2016, that was, like, the last.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

Summer that a lot of.

[A]

Mark, can you get a paper towel, please? Mark just spit Gatorade all over my white couch.

[E]

It all hit me. I wish it hit the couch. It's just a child.

[A]

That's what's on you and the couch. Can you learn how to keep liquids in your mouth, please? Pause.

[E]

Oh.

[B]

All right.

[E]

That was crazy.

[A]

What happened? What? What? He said it was funny.

[B]

Say two words to this, bro. I didn't say nothing.

[A]

That.

[E]

That's. That's his game. He doesn't say anything. You know what he does?

[C]

It's a face.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, well, this is the audio adventure.

[B]

No, like I was saying, for a lot of people, 2016 was the last like amazing summer, amazing year.

[C]

Pre Trump, right?

[B]

Yeah, it was pre trial.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's like that was the good, the good times damn near before shit went and got fucked up.

[C]

Before the pandemic.

[B]

Covid we here now. So I could see why some people would wanna remember 2016.

[C]

Those were good times.

[E]

2016 was amazing.

[B]

It was amazing.

[A]

2016 deserves to be. Have a tribute.

[E]

Yeah, that's how I feel about it.

[B]

It's amazing.

[E]

I mean, it's been 10 years, so I get why people are just marking.

[B]

10 years, but I'm just saying I don't remember last year. Last year people doing the.

[A]

They didn't. They didn't.

[E]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

So.

[B]

So now you say why 2016? And you start to think what 2016 meant. It was very. It was very.

[E]

2016 may have been the best year.

[B]

Of my life for a lot of people.

[A]

Not judging by these picks. Let me see. All right, you met the RZA in 2016.

[E]

These are jobs I had. This was. This was like when my career took over.

[A]

Don't you try to clean it up. You met the RZA. That was big. You met Patti LaBelle. That was big. You met Jesse Powell.

[E]

That's Jesse Williams and that's me co hosting Larry Vilafonte's music festival.

[A]

Wait, Jesse, wait, you met Jesse? You met Jesse Williams.

[C]

A lot of Jesse's.

[A]

You met Carlo Santana.

[E]

We were working with. Yeah.

[A]

You met Donald Glover.

[B]

You're saying everybody you met. Okay, so Danny Glover.

[E]

It's Danny Glover. These aren't people I met. These, these are me. This is me at major events that I was doing. I was hosting a BET special, MTV special.

[A]

Harry Belafonte, his last major interview.

[B]

That's huge.

[A]

You met Bell Biv devoe on my.

[E]

Late night talk show that launched. You keep making it sound like I'm just meeting people.

[B]

It sounds like you collected all your meeting. I wasn't gonna say that. I ain't see the pictures, but the way he making it sound.

[A]

Ice, look at these pictures, yo. They look like groupie pictures.

[B]

Oh, those. Are we working pictures?

[E]

Yeah, no, exactly. Thank you.

[B]

No, no, I'm talking. No, I'm talking about when take a picture.

[A]

Yes, that's what it is.

[B]

Reworking, Reworking.

[A]

Like, yeah, these are definitely reworking. Cuz if you was just big enough like your show. Where are some of the people that work your show from behind the scenes? Like where's the people that help keep the show running.

[C]

There's the whole power cast right there. I see why you still watching.

[E]

That was the first power cast.

[A]

You're right.

[E]

Yeah, you're right. But, yeah, that's when power was popping. They all did a surprise visit on the set of VH1 Live, which was my show. So that was the point. In 2016 was the big year. And then I realized, like, oh, that was the big year. That's before I started talking about certain things.

[A]

Yo, you was photoshopping your face on the promo for this tonight, this VH1 live show.

[E]

It's my real face, Mark. It's 10 years ago. I was 35, 36.

[A]

No, buddy, you photoshopping your face.

[E]

VH1 launched that.

[A]

Anyway. Anyway, I agree with y'. All. 2016 was a great year for music. It was a great summer.

[B]

It was a great year. Was that.

[C]

Was that rage or was that 2015?

[A]

Yeah, that rage.

[C]

Oh, 2016 was big time has changed.

[E]

What was you doing in 2016? What was.

[A]

That was my final album.

[C]

Yeah, we're touring.

[A]

That was my last. That was my last album. Rage against the Machine, Raging the Machine, Torn. That's the.

[B]

That's the.

[A]

That's the year I said, you know what? I'm about to change my life around. Sure enough, you supposed. In 2016. Like, it's like a throwback. Throwback. 10 years.

[E]

10 years is a throwback, though, Especially.

[B]

Considering all the shit we done been through.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. Shit was different. Donald Trump wasn't president yet. Like, it was a different world we was in. Obama was president. Shit was different, man.

[A]

It's mad Trump voters out there talking about 2016. Shut up. This ain't for y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

This ain't for y' all at all. I don't want to be the dark, dark, gloomy guy, but I say it all the time. Them pandemic summers were great.

[C]

They were. They were.

[A]

Them pandemic summers were all. Some of the best pandemic. If you're a fan of no Traffic. Oh, that's. Yes, it was pandemic.

[D]

It was the line out of Louis Vuitton, Gucci sax, all that. You had to wait to get in there.

[B]

Crazy.

[D]

And people be talking all, oh, they've now broke out the problem. I was happy to see that. Don't normally wear like that. Wear like that.

[B]

That's a good point.

[D]

Everybody had them big ass ballist on.

[B]

You ain't talking about Landman.

[A]

I'm not watching it.

[D]

Why did your Mouth drop like that on your birthday. Stop.

[A]

I'm not watching it. What? I watched the first episode. It was great. I was like, nope, letting it sit.

[B]

Oh, I thought you meant nope, like this.

[A]

No, I'm letting sit.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know I'm letting it sit. It's land man. I'm not. I'm not doing that. Episodic.

[B]

It's the season finale already just came on.

[A]

Oh, that can't be true. That cannot be true.

[B]

That's not the finale. Finally gotta be this week.

[A]

But either way, listen. Amani was hipping me to the tick tock couple that broke up and got divorced. Which is the only reason I'm saying so. The Desmond Scott dude was spotted out kissing a girl and it was a big deal. What the fuck did people expect him to do? What did people think he was gonna do?

[D]

He was cheating though, Joe. That's why they're upset about it. Cause supposedly he cheated and that's what happened.

[E]

But now they divorced, he's supposed to.

[A]

Make up for it. You keep saying supposedly.

[B]

Don't make it factual.

[D]

It's brand new.

[A]

No, no, no, I'm saying supposedly.

[D]

Cause I don't know what's happening.

[A]

I went back and watched some of them videos nowadays. Get a little educated. Yes, he cheated on her. Yes, he cheated on that lady. Who is shocked by that?

[E]

Did y' all see the videos of her wiling?

[A]

Right dog, that lady is off in the head.

[D]

Mind you, the only video that I saw cuz that. Cuz she's a really pretty girl. But the first video I saw, she's doing the flips in the shoe store and he's in the background, right? And when she flips and jump up and shake her ass, the sun. They're in a shoe store. Not a cheap, cheap one. And this is doing flips and the stilettos he about to buy. That's the point of the video. But her views is crazy. People like her, that's her brand. But that's her thing. Like I should put a random taco costume on and run around. She just wanted them nice house, nice car, nice whatever. But she kind of wild.

[A]

And he lived there and he a chef. He'd just be at the stove trying to make his little food.

[D]

And he looks so annoyed.

[A]

And here she come back flipping this. Oh yeah.

[B]

But you kind of can't say nothing. Cause y' all making bread for from it.

[D]

The video. Exactly. And it was her bop, it wasn't his. But at the end of the day on that video that I'm talking about ice. When she does the flips and turn around and twerk, the sun flips and turns around and shake his ass too. That's the first thing that stuck out to me because the dad was right there and I'm like, well, just me as a woman and being in a family structure with my kids, right? Certain dad just never allows. I'm not saying whether I allow or don't allow whatever. We ain't even gonna get into all that. But just from what I know, most dads I know video would have been cut off, the sneaker would have been grabbed, everything doing off. You're not even posting that. The fact that she could still post that. I know the type relationship they had. He cheated a lot. Cuz that is annoying. In them kids. He only like them kids. You them up. I told you stop doing this constant with these children.

[A]

Now they are.

[D]

Boo.

[A]

I ain't going to hold you. Sometimes the Internet acts surprised about. And then I go check it out and be like, all right, yeah. Yes.

[B]

Saw this a mile away.

[A]

Yes. He was cheating on this girl.

[D]

They're both attractive parks. They're both attractive people. She's just annoying. You heard me there.

[E]

Annoying.

[A]

But wait, but, but it's. But, but wait. No, hold up, hold up, hold up, cuz some is coming. It's not only that she was annoying. I being with her, at least in the videos that I saw, could be emasculated.

[D]

How, Joey.

[E]

Okay, now you're on something.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

How. Tell me y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

What the.

[B]

You know what y' all describing. Yeah, I can see that.

[D]

You know what's crazy?

[E]

If you.

[D]

We can't do. You can't scratch a titty without, like being demasculating. How me doing flips and my trying to get my little account up. How the does that emasculate you?

[B]

It's emac.

[D]

I didn't say whatever. I didn't say. You couldn't tell me not to flip in the video. I'm still flipping in the video. How. What I'm doing making you less of like, what happened.

[B]

You just. You just said it and answered it without answering it. I don't want to fight you with the sun.

[D]

Join.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. And you said, yo, she was allowed to put that out. Maybe against his wishes.

[D]

Okay, I guess I hate when y'.

[A]

All in most of the videos I saw, he was made out to look like a chunk a.

[E]

A sucker.

[A]

Forget the fact that he looked a little uncomfortable. He. He's in the background looking like the punching bag. You Know, the funny way to say is look like he was about to go cheat. But yeah, he looked like he didn't.

[E]

Want to be there.

[A]

He looked like he didn't really agree to how he was being presented. But hold on. But deeper than that, how he was being presented to the world as a man looked away. And then your partner is actually getting gigs from this. Your partner's at the Emmys. Your partner and I don't know where she was, but she started to get a bunch of gigs.

[B]

The part that she blew up, that's what everybody see him.

[D]

The first thing I think is he may not like it. He's not into it. I don't straight think that he couldn't say he couldn't do it. You know what I mean? To me, I'm more feeling that maybe he is that comfortable as a man, that that doesn't bother him. You understand? I'm saying in general, I don't get that concept where it's like y' all say shit like that and it's like it only matters to y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

The only opposite sex might not even be looking at you in that way. But a man to man thing. Y' all looking at him like a ass.

[B]

You was looking at him like a ass out your.

[D]

Shut up. Just that one time trying to pod here.

[E]

That was my point, Joe. Like, I. I don't think annoying necessarily makes you cheat. I mean, some people just cheat because they want.

[A]

No, that's just a pod joke. I'm talking.

[E]

Yeah, no, but I'm just. I mean, sometimes people just cheat because they want something different. I get that. You know what I mean? Because everybody's partner's annoying on some level, right?

[C]

So.

[E]

And everybody makes their own choices about what they going to do with it. But that other point, I think is it a lot of times dudes, at least that I talk to when they feel like their masculinity is compromised and you play into that, that shit'll make you. You almost wanna feel like a man again. And the best way to feel like a man for a lot of dudes is to go out there and find something else. Cause you feel like you don't feel like that at home. That's common. Whether you agree with that notion of masculinity or not, that's how people be feeling.

[A]

I wanna play a clip.

[B]

It matters.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Stops fighting for you. When a man stops fighting for you. Understand something. He didn't stop caring. You taught him his effort doesn't matter. Every gesture dismissed, every attempt to lead.

[B]

Met with resistance or criticism. That isn't him giving up on you.

[A]

That's him finally accepting the pattern. Men don't bond through talking about feelings. They bond through action, through providing, through.

[B]

Showing up and having that presence felt.

[E]

When a man offers his time, his.

[A]

Resources, his protection, and you treat it like it's expected instead of valued, something inside him shifts. Not dramatically, quietly.

[B]

He doesn't announce he's pulling back.

[A]

He just stops extending himself into spaces where he's not honored. That is self preservation. That is maturity.

[E]

And here's what women miss.

[A]

A good man doesn't need you to perform or be perfect. He needs you to receive what he gives with grace. He needs his effort to be met with appreciation, not demands for more.

[B]

When you weaponize his consistency, when you.

[A]

Take his stability for granted, you create the very distance you'll later cry about. Men don't go cold because they're heartless. They go cold because warm doesn't work when it's not reciprocated.

[B]

If he's still showing up, still trying.

[A]

Honor that before he stops trying altogether. Energy matches energy every single time.

[C]

I usually hate this kind of content, but that was.

[D]

If it's a fucking beat in the back of it, I don't want to hear that.

[A]

I normally hate the sappy shit too, but she was absolutely cooking it and I think a lot of people out there may need to hear that. So that was a good time for it. And also, like she said, once that distance is created, guess what's happening? Well, she didn't say this. I'm saying it. Another bitch. And then you gonna say, that's cheating. You had somebody the whole time. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how it works. Cheating is much deeper than the actual act. What's going on in the house? Like, homeboy was an attractive dude, but do you think he met somebody that he felt comfortable putting his tongue in her throat a day after his divorce is announced? No, I don't think that.

[D]

Well, unless you're drunk, they're dragging, maybe.

[A]

A little drunk.

[C]

Get drunk and make out.

[D]

Because, I mean, they're dragging them anyway because.

[A]

Because when the wife is loved online, you're gonna get killed no matter what.

[D]

It doesn't matter if you can't wait guy, are you the bad guy? If. If you are just the background guy. They take her side, like literally in her comments. If you just go to her page now it's people like him. I don't care what happened. What time we going to go kill him with a yeah, with like, a meme of people with knives and like that. And. And sidebar. She hasn't said that. Wouldn't got a box bob. And every in America was like, him, girl, cut that hair. He cheated. Yeah. Cause if we get the bob now. Come on. If I pull out the bob, I'm on some.

[A]

And you about to start.

[D]

Y' all talking about all that dictionary. If we cut bobs, it's going.

[A]

She done with you. And she go suck.

[B]

And she been with you since she was 14.

[D]

Beware of that Bob. When that go get that just let left my baby. If she get a taper with the fade, it's over.

[B]

Where I want to be in reverse.

[D]

Shout out to all my black girls with a pixie cut. Man, it's chilly on the back of that neck. I love you.

[A]

All right, I think this is a new part of the show that I can read for the first time with all of us here. All right, this is from Vanessa. Hey, Vanessa.

[C]

Vanessa.

[A]

Vanessa says, hey, y'. All. A little background before I get to the question. My man and I started dating while we had a baby on the way.

[C]

It's a good time to start dating.

[D]

What do you mean?

[E]

Wait.

[A]

Huh? Oh, no, I'm sorry. I read that wrong. My man and I started dating. Is ice here?

[C]

Right there.

[A]

My man and I started dating while he had a baby on the way.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Oh, that's different.

[A]

They separated very early in her pregnancy with no chance of reconciling. And somehow I didn't see it as a red flag. So here we are. That's a whole other story for another day. Baby was born early into our relationship. Him and I moved in together right after that. And since then, the baby has had solo overnight stays at our home starting from 2 months old. Fast forward one year, baby is now spending equal time between. Between us and the obsession with me mother.

[C]

Ah.

[A]

I do majority of the caretaking when the baby is with us because fa.

[B]

Oops.

[A]

Why?

[B]

What's fa? Financial abuse.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

When the baby is with us because fa.

[B]

Yeah, fa.

[A]

Oops. I meant to do this to allow dad to maintain his daily routine. I don't know what the fuck you talking about.

[D]

Now, let me see.

[B]

I'm taking his role because he paying for everything. He paying the bill. So I'm gonna stay home and take care of the kid when the kid is here, okay?

[A]

Because of this, naturally, me and baby have formed a very strong bond. Our nanny asked me a question that I hadn't considered. What title will I want baby to.

[D]

Call Me, I hate Vanessa.

[A]

A few of you are stepdads. Aside from being parents to your own children who now have a bonus parent, what is your opinion from both the stepdad point of view view and the parent point of view? And does the gender of the baby change the answer. Side note, I was one of the very first email submissions to be read on air. Back with the original cast on my third relationship and countless JBP cast updates since. We're still going strong baby. All right, shout out to please.

[D]

Can I go first? Only because I feel like this is written to stepdads when it's a stepmom up here. I was a stepmom before. Number one, the baby should call you Vanessa.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

If you like anything fancy, we could put a miss on it. But mom and step parents don't do that. We don't do that. If the kid grows into calling you mom on his own, has that conversation with the mom calling you daddy's own had a conversation with the real dad, then we go there. But you and the nanny don't put together. I' ma have this calling me mamacita or whatever the it is. Right? That's number one. Number two. Two. Who the the with a. Who wipes a with a baby on the way? Vanessa, already tell the type of you are girl. Because first of all, you can't never listen to what the say when it comes to the baby mom. You have to count both sides and you can't. So why would you take them serious? We have a baby now you raise another baby. Want this baby to call you mom. He don't have no interest in coming to you cuz he already got a baby. Now you about to cause a bunch of problems cuz you want a baby. No. You're a glorified babysitter. That's what Steph parents are. Until the kid gets close to the step parent, step parent can't get close to the kid.

[A]

You got some trauma on this.

[D]

I don't. Not only do I not have trauma on it, I was in a relationship with a guy. Our kids were similar ages. His baby mom was ridiculous. I never beat the lady up. I always got the little girl clothes. I made sure when we purchased the house that we got her her own bedroom. I can remember arguing with him like, oh, why? Cuz you know it's like 20, 30 extra when you get another bedroom sometimes, right? His whole thing. Oh, she only comes over. No, she needs to come come and enjoy her room without my daughter or my kid messing up her stuff. You Know what I mean? I know what it feels like. My father had a lot of. I know what that feel like. Going with my father to one house and depending my experience depends on the he and how she carried me or how her kids carry me. I felt that before. So when I got into a situation where I was somebody's stepmom, all the rules were surrounded by what I felt like as a kid, period. And that was like the bonus of it. I knew how that felt. I see a lot of women and men make so many mistakes in the step parent category, when really it is a beautiful thing. I kind of had a stepparent for most of my coming up. You know what I mean? But it's like, it's a way to do that shit. And it's so easy to be. To go too far or be disrespectful. Most of the boundaries had to be in place by the parent, which is dad, but dad working, dad doing whatever. Vanessa, don't let that little girl call you mom bitch.

[B]

Fellas, I'm in agreement with regards to the next name. Like, yo, I think Ish is sufficient. Like, my girl got a son, he 20 something, 25. And he calls me Ish.

[E]

Just is not Mr. Ish, not Uncle Ish.

[B]

He calls me Ish. And that's. And that's sufficient.

[A]

Can I say some names? I think he called you.

[C]

No.

[B]

Any. Any other girl?

[A]

No.

[B]

Any other girl that I dated again, I've dated girls that had kids and they call me Ish. Like, I don't think that that mom dashing. I think that's a stretch. And I think.

[E]

I agree.

[B]

And I think to Mona's point, if the girl. Because she's been around a girl since she was 2 years, 2 months old, right. I think if the girl develops that bond with you and wants to call her her second mom or her whatever, I think that has to be a decision on the child.

[D]

Right.

[B]

But you can't tell. I can't call me this.

[A]

No, please.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think that.

[D]

And how many I know I have had friends that every. She date that kid. Them kids gotta call her dad. The dad. Because it's a pattern thing. Like, you get into that. I get why people want to do it because it feels like a family. Some people even think, oh, well, you won't hurt my kid if they call you dad when it's not true. If you pick the wrong person, that person will still hurt. Abused, hurt. What. You know what I mean? Assault, sexual, whatever. But I think that's why people do it. People want that family dynamic right away. At the end of the day, my kid. My kids. Kids have stepmoms. My cow wish my son would come home and say, can I call this mom? I. I just couldn't even imagine the conversation, you know? But that's what it has to be. It has to be like. Like that.

[B]

You know, this happened once with my girl's kid, but it was an accident, like. And I corrected right away, like we both did. Oh, no, no, no.

[A]

We.

[B]

We don't. No. We nip that in the bud.

[D]

My stepdad. I'm not your father.

[A]

Y' all gonna have the trauma bond later.

[D]

It's not a trauma bond. My stepfather would tell me, I'm not your father. He would say it all the time, like, you know, I'm not your dad.

[E]

As an affirmation of, like, I'm not your father.

[D]

No, it would just be like, he would. I. I feel like he was always showing respect to my dad. Like, I think he. Now, looking back, he probably was intimidated. My dad was a street. He was a cop. So I think he was a little intimidated by the. But he would constantly. Like, he never wanted it to be like that was his with me, you know what I mean? I was just a manipulative person. So I called a dad. If I asked for $20, I ain't give a. I try my hand, you know, they let her cut me off.

[C]

That's what's up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Vanessa.

[A]

I hope we were able to help.

[D]

Vanessa. I don't like you, and I don't like when y' all don't speak to me first. Put me in the drum. See me sitting here, they'll come over hanging me and E. Flip. I like that. I like when they do that. This was. You could tell she don't know I'm here. This tap the in I wrote with the first crew and all that. Girl, nobody care about that. The first crew is dead and going, but they not here.

[B]

What you talking about?

[D]

What the fuck? Yeah, I'm gonna start picking clips. Cause I'm getting tired of that. The clips that y' all picked. I'm out here trying to get a nigga.

[B]

You out here trying to get a.

[D]

Nigga a little bit? Not really. I do have a show this weekend. Anybody. What'd you say? Yes, I have a show.

[E]

I didn't say anything.

[D]

New Brunswick.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

Oh, When? Oh, my God.

[D]

The 18th. Get your tickets. There's still a couple tickets left. Would you know it?

[E]

I might go Sunday. I might go.

[D]

Mike Schmid.

[E]

No, actually, I am going to go.

[D]

Y' all go. Who matters? People that buy tickets.

[A]

I ain't doing nothing on Sunday.

[D]

If I look in the crowd and I see y', all, I'm up this weekend. I'm telling you.

[E]

How big is the venue?

[D]

It's big enough that I can see you in that hairline from the stage. So if you dare come.

[A]

That's little.

[D]

You too skinny.

[A]

No, no, I'm definitely.

[E]

Somebody order large coffee.

[B]

Like, oh, yo, Mark.

[D]

What's they. Nobody supports me and cares about me like you. Do you? I'm about to. Why don't I sit on that couch?

[A]

I wish you would.

[D]

S sandwich between two haters.

[A]

Listen, is there anything else that we need to get off of our heart, soul, spirits? Anything else we need to get off of our. Just a happy birthday.

[E]

Yep, that's it. Just want to affirm you, my brother.

[B]

We love you so much.

[E]

50 revolutions around the sun is amazing, man. We appreciate you. We love you. We wish nothing but another 50 years of joy and love and prosperity and health, man. We love you, man.

[D]

Thank you so much. Emerald eyes.

[A]

You all right?

[D]

Like, when I think about you, my eyes water Sometimes time like, you are beautiful. Way cuter than skinny ass. You ain't got to lose weight to be cute. Some people got to lose weight. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Oh. Yo, y' all hold it down out there, man. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, arrivederci. Hasta la vista, Au revoir, so long, goodbye Or a simple head nod will suffice Remember, life is a series. No, let me do it right for my man. Do it right for my man.

[C]

I thought you do the 50 in the club. You know, I mean. Birthday song. Andy's 50.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So stupid. Seen a lot of talk about great double albums.

[C]

Oh, don't do that.

[B]

You know, this don't go nowhere near that list.

[C]

It's a good album.

[B]

It's a celebration.

[A]

Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make. Make this one last as if it's all we. Yo, Drake is crazy.

[C]

This is definitely a polarizing song. I know people that love this song, but the people with taste hate this song.

[D]

When my birthday come, I want to walk in the gifts and stuff, guys.

[A]

Oh, man. I never even heard that record. To hear the drums coming.

[B]

That song.

[A]

I know they had drums on that, dog.

[B]

I've never heard that song.

[A]

Stop playing with them. It's actually really relevant. Listen, lastly, the baddies, the insecure, the stagnant. Women want to travel and the close minded women want you. Huh?

[C]

Did you have to read the script?

[A]

No. Oh no, I'm looking for something. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you will need it. Anybody got any interesting plans for the weekend? Anything? Well, we got Sunday plans now, me and Mark. Yep.

[B]

Yeah, I think I might, I might.

[E]

With that on Sunday.

[B]

Let's do that Saturday. I'm. I'm going to hit that Brooklyn Paramount show.

[A]

Who's that? Max. Oh, that's it though, it's. What you got going on this weekend?

[B]

Nothing.

[E]

Unless my girl do something you recovering from tonight.

[C]

That's right. Yeah, sleep it all day.

[E]

That's it. That's right.

[B]

Sleep that shit off.

[E]

Sleep it off. Pop Pop. It's go time tonight, quarks.

[A]

How about you?

[C]

No big plans. No big plans.

[A]

Call your girl.

[B]

Let your girl know you'll be home.

[A]

About five.

[E]

Full of bulbs with money I got hands to get love so come give me a hug.

[B]

I said do you. Oh no, no. The muffin man. Wait, wait, no.

[A]

You fool.

[D]

Y', all.

[A]

The funny is. Yo, hold up. The funny is the clip. In the clip it says when I'm making both of the tens laugh. And now bro randomly decides to show he has a talent. Look at face. That octave on him. Oh man.

[D]

No.

[A]

That was hilarious. You've never heard of Joe buddy?