Episode 897 | "Company Tardy Policy"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 897 | "Company Tardy Policy"

Release Date: January 24, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode blends the usual irreverence, camaraderie, and sharp cultural commentary listeners expect from Joe Budden and his rotating cast of friends. The crew dives into topics ranging from company tardy policies, snowstorm survival, the upcoming Producer Verzuz, the Oscars and Grammys, the Fivio Foreign vs. 21 Savage beef, and the challenges of financial literacy for athletes. Moments of vulnerability, humor, and culture critique are embedded throughout, making for a quintessential JBP rollercoaster.

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Cast Members This Episode

• Joe Budden (host, "A")
• Ice ("B")
• Parks ("C")
• Mona (Ms. Mona) ("D")
• Dr. Mark Lamont Hill ("E")

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

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1. Tardy Policies and Professionalism in Podcasting

[02:47 – 06:43]

• Opening Banter: The episode opens with playful banter about underwear, hats, and team aesthetics before segueing into a serious touchpoint — lateness among the panel, with Ish and Mona noted as repeat offenders.
• Joe on Tardiness: Joe announces a new “company tardy policy,” joking about “graces” given to certain cast members—especially Mona, attributing it to her being a “girly lady” and commuting from far away. The consensus is that when Parks (the engineer) is present, recording will commence, latecomers or not.
• Quote (Joe, on tardiness, 05:26): "So my new rule...when Parks is here, I'm starting. There's no point in six and seven people's days being altered because one or two people are late. I don't think that's fair."

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2. Big Storm Prep & Survivalist Talk

[17:48 – 22:24]

• The group discusses an impending major snowstorm, with jokes about grocery hoarding and the quirks of men on Instacart.
• Mark reveals he grew up in a cult and always keeps 20–30 gallons of water and generators:
  (E, 22:05): "I'll just say this. I grew up in a cult, so there's a way that you prepare for not being able to go out in the world for a while. And that's how I prepare at all times."
• Supermarket habits, the importance of preparedness, and the unreliable nature of Instacart shoppers are discussed with comedic effect.

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3. Office Hygiene and Pandemic Habits

[25:07 – 26:46]

• Hygiene Memories: The team reminisces about how the pandemic brought handwashing front and center, including the Apple Watch’s handwash timer and public shaming of non-washers.
• Mona (D, 25:50): "Y'all would be surprised how many people do not wash their hands, like at all. I thought it was a men thing, but it’s women, too. Some women were like, why do I have to wash my hands if I’m holding tissue?"

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4. Producer Verzuz: Mike WiLL Made-It vs. Hit-Boy

[27:12 – 33:37]

• Anticipation is high for the upcoming Producer Verzuz between Mike WiLL Made-It and Hit-Boy, with the crew debating catalogs, performance expectations, and likely guest appearances.
• Panel predictions:
  • Most favor Mike WiLL based on "bangers" and pop crossovers (e.g., Miley Cyrus).
  • Hit-Boy praised for depth and past Verzuz experience.
• Key Quote (Joe, 29:23): "Mike Will did it. Mike Will's gonna do it. You think sometimes Will's about to do it bad."

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5. New Music Roundup & Reviews

[36:31 – 43:02]

• Ari Lennox “Vacancy” is heralded as a fun, well-rounded project, praised for balancing sexuality, vocals, jazz layers, and lightness.
  • Mark (E, 36:45): "It took like the best parts of her first two…the sexuality, the vocals, little Jazz layers—and then added, like, humor and fun. And it’s light. You don’t feel like somebody's going through trauma."
• 42 Dugg is described as "100% back" with his new mixtape "Part Three".
• Rock Marciano and IDK's new albums are recommended, the latter noted for creative raps and production.
• Discussion: They riff on the decline of New York DJs actually spinning in the club—now just pre-recorded mixes.

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6. Fivio Foreign vs. 21 Savage: Who’s “Street”?

[44:47 – 58:22]

• They dissect a social-media beef that spun out from Fivio Foreign questioning 21 Savage’s street credibility.
• 21 Savage’s Instagram rant played in full; summarized as asserting his street history and belittling others’ claims.
• Mark (E, 51:41): "I’m so tired of this fuck the streets conversation. The who’s street and who’s not conversation. Cause we all wallowing in some bullshit. I don’t know who’s street and who not."
• Mona (D, 52:39): "None of you entertainer niggas is real street niggas. Like, real street niggas wouldn't be famous rappers. So what the fuck are we talking about?"
• The group agrees these debates are mostly posturing and ultimately distracting.

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7. Contemporary Culture: Nightlife, Valetine’s Day, Young People

[74:49 – 78:22, 109:50 – 116:21]

• Decline in nightlife: The cast blames social media, bottle service pricing, less real-world socializing, and weed legalization for the death of “fun club nights.”
• Young people: The crew observes that Gen Z is less interested in drinking, marriage, or clubbing—often preferring online socializing and vaping.
• Valentine’s Day: The men debate whether they’re “doing anything for their girls”, with most joking they’ll do nothing, give “holiday dick”, or pay bills instead of giving gifts.
  • Ice (B, 115:45): "People in relationships don’t get they dick sucked. Not by the person they in a relationship with."
• Vanna White’s 14-year engagement is celebrated and joked about as an example of “not rushing into anything.”

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8. Grammys & Oscars Talk

[79:11 – 88:28]

• Sinners shatters Oscar records for nominations, celebrated for its Black excellence across categories.
• Cynicism: The panel jokes about how often Black projects get lots of nominations but not the big wins, wary of being let down.
  • Mark (E, 86:21): "I just hope it's the right 4 or 5 [wins]. Because if it is score, by the way, all these categories matter… I just hope it’s not a pat on the head."
• Grammys: Olivia Dean hailed as a breakout star; her debut likened to Norah Jones’ instant Grammy impact. Clips, Pharrell, and Leon Thomas are set to perform.
  • Parks (C, 106:10): "That Olivia Dean album is incredible."

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9. Drake’s Defamation Appeal and Lyrics as Legal Precedent

[92:38 – 104:22]

• The group discusses Drake’s defamation lawsuit and his appeal challenging the dismissal of lyrics as evidence.
• Mark and Joe weigh both sides:
  • Artistic freedom vs. slippery slope of using lyrics as actionable legal evidence.
  • Drake’s legal ambition vs. “rap battle, enter at your own risk” mentality.
• Quote (Mark E, 95:11): "There could be circumstances where it does go too far. Very narrow, limited circumstances, and I just want to create room for that."
• The group largely sees the issue as nuanced—uncomfortable with blanket immunity and with lyric-based prosecution.

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10. Family Wealth, Nepotism, Retiring with Billions

[155:17 – 162:50]

• Lakers franchise: They analyze a long ESPN report about infighting among the Buss siblings, with Jeanie Buss steering organizational decisions contrary to her father’s wishes. Debate centers on legacy, control, and the burdens of inherited wealth.
  • Joe (A, 157:55): "If I know my dad’s story…how he kind of built the modern day NBA game, I’m never [selling the Lakers]."
• Virtual retirement after a “billion dollar” payout is mused as possibly “as dangerous as a fireman’s withdrawal”—sitting at home with nothing to do can be more challenging than it seems.

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11. Athletes & Financial Literacy

[176:46 – 191:43]

• NBA player Sebastian Telfair’s recent comments about how “$20 million isn’t a lot of money” spark debate about financial responsibility, family obligations, and the cycle of athletes blowing fortunes.
• Mark (E, 178:19): "A million dollars a year after taxes is a lot of fucking money… you could make a conservative investment that would ensure that you have an annual income forever."
• Joe (A, 187:13): "Go get an accountant… Most people, because you asking people…when you say we not financially literate, it might not be enough time in the rest of some of these people's lives to get the information they're lacking. But you can go with that coin and hire somebody that is going to protect you and your money."

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12. Sibling & Family Obligations

[192:20 – 200:14]

• The cast explores "how many siblings do you have to support if you make it big?" Answers range from taking care of everyone in an emergency, to looking out only for those closest, to buying for kids but not grown adults.
• Mark (E, 198:33): "I do feel a certain kind of duty to that. But in general… it's more like break the glass in case of emergency."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe (on professionalism, 05:15): "There’s no point in six and seven people’s day being being altered because one or two people are late."
• Mark (on prepping for storms, 22:05): "I grew up in a cult, so there's a way that you prepare for not being able to go out in the world for a while."
• Ice (on Producer Verzuz, 29:04): "Mike Will. Mike Will. Mike Will. Mike Will’s gonna do it."
• Mona (on “who’s street”, 52:39): "None of you entertainer niggas is real street niggas. Real street niggas wouldn't be famous rappers."
• Mark (on athletes blowing millions, 178:58): "I don't want us to believe or communicate…that this was unavoidable. A million dollars a year after taxes is a lot of fucking money."
• Joe (on life after a billion-dollar payout, 161:13): "Now, now, now what?…Probably has a lot more parallels [to retirement] than one would think."
• Parks (on Olivia Dean, 106:10): "That Olivia Dean album is incredible."
• Joe’s final sign-off (202:20): "Real good day. Real good day. Good energy, good vibes, good people, good folks."

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Time-stamped Segment Highlights

• Tardy Policy Bants: [03:01 – 06:43]
• Snow Prep & Survival: [17:48 – 22:24]
• Producer Verzuz Deep Dive: [27:12 – 33:37]
• 21 Savage vs. Fivio Dissection: [44:47 – 58:22]
• Oscars and Grammys Talk: [79:11 – 88:28]
• Drake's Lawsuit & Lyrics: [92:38 – 104:22]
• Family Wealth & Legacy: [155:17 – 162:50]
• Athletes & Finances: [176:46 – 191:43]
• Sibling Responsibility: [192:20 – 200:14]

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Tone & Style

• Language: Conversational, irreverent, humorous, but often pivots into deeply insightful cultural critique.
• Panel Chemistry: Warm, teasing, authentic — they cut each other off, joke, and dig, but the mutual respect and affection shines through, especially during vulnerable or serious topics.
• Vibes: Part hangout, part group therapy, part pop culture seminar.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

Episode 897 delivers a classic blend of laughs, real-talk, industry insight, and cultural analysis. The cast covers everything from lateness at work and snowstorm survival to the nature of street credibility, the economic realities facing athletes, and why family businesses are rarely as simple as they seem. If you want sharp takes, memorable stories, and an authentic “barbershop” vibe, this episode delivers in spades.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Did you just tell Mona that you don't wear draws?

[B]

Yeah, that's what I gotta do.

[C]

It seems like a violation of some sort.

[B]

She asked. She said, I wanna see the draws. She said that first, so fair enough.

[D]

Well, what I said exactly was I wanted to see if when you and Ish match, do y' all have the same draws on? And then you said, I don't wear draws. And then I said, you a real nigga.

[B]

Well, you said that in response to us saying that you and Joe called each other and matched hats today.

[A]

That's what happened.

[C]

I got the bedazzle gun.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They got that gun out.

[D]

My head. Cute.

[A]

We look good.

[B]

Yeah, if you 12.

[A]

Oh, we look good, girl.

[B]

Y' all look good, man. I'm in a good mood.

[D]

No, I really like this workly head thing.

[A]

So welcome, welcome, welcome. Salute. Peace. Shout to wherever you might be listening from. Uh, Ish is not here with us. He just texted me and said he's on his way here. He's leaving the dentist.

[C]

Gotta book that on pod day.

[A]

You got mouth open, which is what my brain said. My brain is like, yo, you book a dentist appointment on a pod day? But I didn't type that to him.

[E]

It might be a dental emergency.

[B]

Yo, he gonna come in with his shit swollen. He might have talked to orange pill and talking about.

[C]

Crack your tooth out of orange peel. That's crazy.

[A]

I got a dental procedure I've been putting off for years because of this job. Years.

[C]

You should go.

[B]

Yeah, you might want to get that looked at.

[A]

No, because they said once they do that surgery to put the metal shit in there, you're gonna be done for a little while.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, what you gotta get done?

[B]

Oh, you get the implant crowns?

[D]

Implant?

[B]

Yeah, they gotta put the screw base in first and all that shit.

[A]

Yeah, but because my gums have risen to a certain extent, it has to be done through my something else. And it sounds like it's real surgery. Yeah, it's a real surgery. It's a real oral surgery. And don't expect that I didn't hear that and think I could be good to pod for.

[C]

Gotcha.

[A]

I'm risking my life for this. I'm risking my life at this gig, yo. Honestly, people don't look at it that way because I just come in here chilling. But there'd be so much going on behind the scenes.

[C]

It's one of the most dangerous professions in the world.

[A]

In the whole wide world. Is it? No. Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Potter's dangerous.

[A]

No, we talking shit. So anyway, so Ish is not here and Mona wasn't here. So we were gonna start with our. Start with our new company, tardy policies, since it's such a big deal for you people out there.

[C]

Oh, they don't like that.

[B]

They don't like when.

[D]

Oh, they don't like that.

[A]

They don't like when people are late here. They don't like it. And then they. And then they talk all the shit about me in the world. Poor reflection of leadership. They say they put it on you. Yeah. The guy who's probably fired more people in podcasting than any other master out there. I know how difficult it is to get rid of a podcaster, so I'll be damned if we're doing it just because it was some traffic.

[D]

On top of the fact, I don't know why they assume that we're not getting verbal lashings off camera. I mean, he's so professional. Why would he do that on camera?

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

Like, he would never, like, just grind you the up and disrespect you on camera.

[A]

On camera. On camera. No, no, he would. Not at all. And like, Mona gets so Mona. Y' all talking about Mona's tardiness.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Behind her back and in front of her face. Mona gets so many graces from me. Mona gets girly lady grace. Of course. Cuz girly ladies just, you know, when they.

[B]

Girls, they never going to be on time.

[A]

They never going to be on time. Never. And this is one of those. And this is one of those gigs. And Mona's bad with time, period. And this is one of those. And Mona's coming from a million hours away.

[E]

Her cousin over there nodding you up.

[A]

Stephanie.

[E]

Mona's the last one to show up to everything. Family reunions, Thanksgiving.

[A]

And Mona's coming from far away. That's true. And this is one of those gigs where in order to be on time, you have to be early. A lot of things working against her. Fuck y' all for trying to talk shit behind Mona's back.

[C]

Yeah, that's wrong.

[D]

Into my face.

[A]

Ish, I think, is just on some friendship shit. Like, he just think, like, this is regular. Just like a Monopoly game.

[D]

I get there a Lot?

[C]

No, no, I wouldn't say a lot.

[B]

I would.

[E]

What do we. Wait, wait.

[D]

You mean here, just in general, out the crew?

[B]

You mean just in general or here?

[D]

Here, here? Who's the most tardy besides me? Out the crew?

[A]

Flip, I wanted to hear. I want to hear what y' all.

[B]

Was about to say.

[E]

So there's two levels of on time here. There's the 10:30 on time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

AM the real time.

[C]

The real.

[E]

The actual on time. And then there's the. What time does the show start? And when the fans see this somebody late, it's. Cause they not only missed the 1030 window, that means they missed the actual stack.

[A]

They late as hell.

[E]

The fans know you late. You like you laid as hell, right?

[A]

I'm telling you.

[E]

But so I was. It's issue on time. He's not here at 10:30, but he's here long before the show. He's here for the planning of the show.

[A]

So my new rule audience out there that cares about the fucking tardiness policies up here. Well, our new rule is when Parks is here, I'm starting.

[C]

Fair enough.

[B]

And Parks is all.

[D]

Parks. Always here.

[A]

Well. Well, that's. That's kind of the thing. When the engineer gets here and we're able to record, we're recording. There's no point in six and seven people's day being being altered because one or two people are late. I don't think that's fair, especially with.

[C]

Such a big, beautiful ensemble.

[A]

This is an ensemble cast.

[C]

We have so many talented people that like, you know.

[A]

Come on, man.

[C]

Next man up.

[A]

I couldn't agree more.

[C]

Next man up.

[B]

We can talk about anything, so.

[A]

I couldn't agree more. Stop playing with us, man. Stop. Yo, put some fucking respect when y' all talking about us out there. Honestly. Yeah, come on, type like I see it. Type like I see it. Yeah, come on. Type like I see it. Sometimes they just throwing shit at the wall. Sometimes, you know, niggas is looking, man. How y' all feel?

[C]

Feeling great.

[A]

Feeling good.

[E]

Feeling good. Much better.

[A]

Good. Mark, you sound a hundred times better. Yeah.

[E]

Got most of my voice back.

[B]

You were sounding like me before.

[E]

I know, I know, I know. And then this morning, I did a shot just to clear up my throat a little bit.

[C]

A little Bacardi.

[E]

In the morning, I did something else. I will never drink Bacardi again just cause y'.

[A]

All. Motherfucker.

[E]

I did a little Tito's.

[C]

Ew, a shot of Tito's.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah. Just clear the throat.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, I took one, too. Shots of vodka.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. I wasn't gonna stay.

[A]

We on that. We on that today.

[C]

I mean, it's better than Cir. But, I mean, shots of vodka is disgusting.

[E]

I didn't have any tequila.

[D]

What am I supposed to do?

[E]

Clear my throat up?

[D]

Yeah. You know, and get you saucy?

[B]

No.

[E]

Hell, no.

[B]

The shot ain't gonna do that.

[E]

Nah, not a shot. We GS over here. We grown men.

[B]

We drink.

[A]

Oh, boy. We seen Mark tipsy off a couple red bones. We seen Mark tipsy off some bullshit over there at nodding off. Mona, what's up? You good? You good? You good? You good?

[D]

I'm good. I'm in a great mood.

[A]

Good, good, good. I love you, y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

It's Aquarius season, okay?

[C]

That's true. Congratulations.

[D]

Yeah, congratulations.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

That's.

[C]

I did not.

[E]

When is your actual birthday?

[D]

February 12th. Same day as Abraham Lincoln.

[A]

You wanted those. Okay.

[D]

I'm a signed person, and especially my sign. But we happen to be some of the most special people on Earth. It's the truth. Think about the Aquarius, you know? Yeah. You know?

[E]

Oh, yeah. Autumn Soul. Aquarians. They all Aquarians.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

There's a lot of artists I love what you want for your birthday?

[D]

And all the great, like, activists a lot. Elangela Davis. I can name so many people.

[A]

Yeah. And Damona.

[D]

What do I want for my birthday? From who?

[E]

From us, as a collective. It's probably gonna be one gift.

[D]

I don't think y' all should do one gift.

[A]

It's probably gonna be one gift.

[C]

Probably won't.

[E]

Yeah, it's one gift.

[B]

I see what you want.

[A]

Right?

[C]

I'm thinking lunch.

[A]

That works.

[B]

We'll get you lunch.

[D]

We always do lunch.

[A]

Well, this is your birthday.

[E]

It's gonna be a birthday chick Fil A sauce is all yours.

[A]

A gift card from the body shop or some shit. Get yourself some lotion.

[B]

Get you a. I'm gonna get you a booster gift card.

[D]

Hey, you know me.

[A]

I got you. You know me. I know you.

[B]

And a case of blacks.

[A]

Some Victoria's Secret shit.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Nah, you gotta get her a lot of blacks.

[A]

Secret from the middle. From the middle square.

[B]

Knock this shit up.

[A]

The middle square where everybody's touching it, putting their germs. Where you supposed to put your pussy? From the middle shin. Vicky Secret. Mad germ.

[D]

Yo, people try candies and lingerie on all the time and return them.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

That's nasty. They do. They do.

[E]

Yo, is Victoria's Secret one of the spots that, like, you thought Was the shit when you were younger and now nobody fucks with it or is it still like something you could give somebody?

[D]

Kinda. I feel like they evolved a little bit. Cause they separated. So they got like a younger brand called Youngest Pink.

[B]

Shit.

[D]

Yeah. So.

[E]

But kinda freeze those bouts.

[B]

I be in the malls, man.

[A]

Vicky Secret was never that. That for me since very young.

[C]

Because I liked the catalogs.

[A]

Thicker, thicker women.

[D]

But they can't fit that facts.

[A]

They couldn't get done out of the album. Fredericks.

[E]

That makes sense.

[A]

Fredericks.

[D]

That's a fact.

[A]

Fredericks was the Frederick Secret Big breasted bras.

[C]

Gotcha.

[A]

Vicky Secret ain't gonna get it done. That's what I'm. Little white girls. Then they got in trouble. Then Vicky Secret got in trouble for some. What? They got in trouble for how they marketed something.

[B]

Wasn't it the fashion show? It was that fashion show. And then Rihanna came out and put her foot on their neck. Cause she was all inclusive. And once that happened, she killed them.

[D]

Rihanna got the sports bra and the 6X.

[C]

Good to know.

[E]

Speaking of Rihanna, man, you were missed so much.

[D]

Oh my God.

[E]

On the episode, A$AP came in and asked where you were by name and talked about how funny you were.

[A]

Crazy. Yeah. He made sure to say the newer girl. Yes. He made sure. It was no confusion.

[D]

No, I with him. I can't believe it.

[B]

Still me.

[E]

That is what he said. I feel a little sauce on. Like he said by name. He said, you know the one right there.

[A]

That'll work.

[D]

That'll work. I still. I still be up by certain people knowing who I am or whatever. But you know, this platform is huge, so. But that's lit. Shout out to asap. Thank you for the glasses. They really hard.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. No, he was great.

[C]

He was.

[B]

Yeah, he was. That was fun.

[E]

And the glasses was dope.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[E]

Even ish, Mr. I don't fuck with Ray Bans.

[B]

Yo.

[A]

What was.

[E]

Oh, this real nice.

[B]

Ish wore the ASAP glasses before. The glasses you got on.

[E]

That's what I'm. That's where I was going.

[A]

Yo. It would be on brand.

[E]

It really would.

[A]

It would be very double mind. Very on brand.

[D]

They real cute.

[A]

Ain't nobody. Oh, man. Shout out to asap. That was great. That little clip is flying around. Yo.

[B]

I heard you.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

I said, yo, that shit everywhere I looked. I said, okay, y' all killed.

[E]

That flip joke was great. And that was perfectly timed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Non disrespectful.

[E]

Like.

[B]

It was a perfect joke, yo.

[E]

Yeah. But the whole Interview was dope. Y' all killed it, man. I was really happy to see it.

[A]

No, it was dope. It was dope. I had a good time. I'm glad that happened. Ooh. Hey, Mic Check, Mic check, Mic check. Hey, bro, is that jambo?

[D]

What is at stake for us? Whole Florida.

[A]

What's going on out there? Whole New York City. Big Jersey. Big Jersey.

[E]

Houston, y' all getting snow too Say.

[D]

You my I'm gonna be your killer Nobody gonna play with you when I'm with you Go against any nigga like this Glitter skito dirt on beef. I put it in for you. I spin for you. What if you.

[A]

What's going on out there? Shout out to the nurses, too, man. Shout out to the nurses. I hope y' all get that together soon. Word. That strike is lasting longer than I thought it would.

[B]

Help it.

[D]

Now I'm reminiscing. Remember we were checking cars? Now you better keep your distance. Cause it's not safe.

[A]

You.

[D]

You. Got one. Only love I ever felt.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

You know give me kids.

[A]

Everybody else out. What's going on out there? Everybody in the supermarket getting ready.

[E]

Loading up, loading up.

[A]

I.

[D]

Miss. We do not.

[A]

Wake it up out there Wake it up out there. I miss you more than 80s yeah.

[D]

Milligrams I'm still a man we slaying rock face, you jiggle and I'm plugged on the border. I'm doing 45 a day and that's.

[A]

So any phone dog food y' all get 50. We want all blues.

[D]

Yeah, I'm a Hooper, baby and I.

[A]

Dropped out of school.

[D]

I was too connected.

[A]

I just split my nigga, bro, you.

[D]

Can do the next.

[E]

No, these ain't triple S, rich.

[D]

These white Ls, I might get their.

[A]

Head, boo, but I don't want.

[D]

I'm taking three with me now.

[A]

That's three ways not from these ways.

[D]

Buses from my DNA. What you doing with a doctor? You a CNA, baby. We in Hellcats.

[A]

These a CNAs. Yeah, we scratching off in the kitchen.

[D]

Dog food. Yeah, we brought them.

[E]

We want all blues.

[D]

We just got up front of all this. And I keep a fold. Nicky.

[A]

Hey, G. Ms. Parker.

[E]

Once they put a bitch on me.

[A]

It'S hard to get. Just for you, man, just for you. Get the energy right in the building, you know?

[B]

I mean.

[A]

The highlight of my week, putting together this new gym playlist.

[C]

Little different from that disco he was talking about before.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different mood, different vibe.

[B]

Who was that?

[A]

And Mona. Mona. What episode is this?

[C]

897.

[A]

Welcome to episode 897 of the JBP, brought to you by a few by Power. By Price Picks. Price Picks, gang.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, really happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Stop playing with her, man. Don't call a white girl Damona. Ms. Mona in the building. How you doing, Mona?

[D]

I'm great.

[A]

Great. Absolutely love that. Next to her, Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, what's poppin with you?

[E]

Ain't man good.

[A]

Absolutely love that. Next to him, the freeziest of them all, Elizabeth's finest. Big ice in the building. Ice. How you doing?

[B]

I'm great, man. Glad to be here. And I missed y'.

[A]

All. I love that. I missed you too, my brother. Elmira's finest, our good man Parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing?

[C]

Feel great, man. Feel great.

[A]

Absolutely love that. Po is here. Corey is here. Mona's niece is here.

[B]

Anaya.

[D]

Anaya.

[A]

Anaya. Shout out to Anaya. Anaya. Nothing against you.

[B]

Every week.

[A]

Mona has somebody different here every week. I think it's a lineup, I swear.

[E]

Selling tickets, that's what it is.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

Backstage passes.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

Shout out to Eric Sin Tanner. Savannah here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. Everybody is feeling great, looking great, smelling great, and ready for work indeed.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Big snowstorm. Yes.

[D]

Is it really going to happen?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, this should look like it.

[E]

This one, look.

[A]

No, no, it is. It's guaranteed. It's guaranteed. The news people all but said no. They said it's guaranteed to be happening. This is the first time that everybody, all of us over here, are getting six inches. Not just six inches. I'm a grow up, y'. All.

[D]

Six inches. That's it.

[E]

No, you're guaranteed six.

[B]

That's the minimum.

[A]

Guaranteed six as the minimum.

[B]

Everywhere, like, certain areas, like where I looked at where I live, they talk about 11, 12 inches.

[E]

We're gonna get 12 inches and then another four the next day.

[D]

When does this start?

[A]

Sunday morning.

[D]

Saturday. Now it's Sunday.

[E]

Basically all night. When you go to bed on Saturday.

[A]

You'Re gonna wake up with like 2am Sunday morning, which for hood, like, it's Saturday night.

[B]

So they'll be outside.

[A]

So that's. Yeah, yeah, be outside. I'll be right outside.

[C]

I'll be inside, but I'll still be.

[E]

I won't be outside.

[D]

It won't be school.

[A]

Hell, no.

[E]

That's what I'M worried about.

[D]

That sucks.

[C]

Why you worried?

[B]

You got another day home with your kids.

[A]

Mom, Donnie announced your question. There will 100% be school on Monday either by remote?

[C]

Yeah, they do.

[B]

Oh yeah, they got that.

[E]

I don't care if they learn. I don't care that they not home.

[D]

Right. Get them niggas out.

[E]

Do it help if they in the house learning.

[D]

Can we meet at the Powell and.

[E]

Do the remote right?

[B]

Yeah, that remote is some.

[A]

That's some. I'm watching. I'm. I'm. I'm watching our, our mayor to see how he handles this snowstorm. This is his first big like. Let's see what you got.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, for real.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

I was there when they up in. When de Blasio up in 2016 and didn't have any trucks on the street.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

That was absolutely. No, I remember that. You remember that the streets were messed up for a while after that.

[B]

And you can't have New York like that.

[C]

Not at all.

[A]

There was somebody else that messed up the snow before that. Before that. Before that somebody messed up. So how they handle these types of. These types of weather events? Yeah, it's a big deal.

[C]

Yeah. Don't be, don't be conservative with this, that road salt this weekend at all because it's supposed to be freezing too. So this about to be here for a minute. That's the problem.

[E]

That's scary.

[C]

That's the problem.

[B]

Four degrees.

[A]

Houston has got. Houston has got really bad weather as that storm makes its way to Oklahoma. I've been on this since 4 in the morning.

[C]

Yeah, A lot of the south is getting hit, right?

[B]

Yes. 30 out of the lower 48 states are going to feel this storm.

[C]

Sheesh.

[A]

Okay, so let's talk about what really matters. Who's been in the supermarket buying everything on the shelves?

[C]

Nah, I instacarted but.

[B]

Well, yeah, I ain't go in the supermarket.

[C]

I got a dude, man, he came back with all the wrong. Oh my God, it's so bad when.

[D]

You get a man cancel redo it. They just. Men don't know how to instacart.

[C]

It was like don't just get. I ordered like a plain soda water like a couple cases or whatever. He just got the same bread but like some weird ass flavor.

[A]

Like it's.

[C]

I don't care about the brand. Get me plain soda water. Like. Yeah.

[A]

Do you fill out the replacement thing?

[C]

I did but I was doing some so I didn't like you got to be there.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta be like, out the aisle.

[D]

You done?

[C]

But I didn't. I order it for you to just bring it to me. I don't order it. If I'm gonna have to shop with you, then I might as well just go to the fucking store.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

When you. When you do put your order in and do you automatically put, like, find something close to this?

[C]

I do, but passion fruit soda water is not the same as plain water.

[D]

You have to be able to read to be able to do that part.

[E]

And they don't got good judgment. They'll bring Alka Seltzer.

[D]

Facts.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, they'll bring some trade.

[A]

Yeah, well, did you buy anything else? Did you stock up on anything?

[C]

Water, toilet paper, paper towels, you know.

[A]

What are you guys normal? A storm is coming. Supermarket habits.

[E]

World War II. I assume that the weatherman is off by like a month. So I buy about 20. 20 days of canned goods.

[C]

Oh, God.

[E]

I buy frozen meat. I buy. I don't buy bottled water. Cause I already have, you know, a water machine at the house. I got. So I always got. I always keep like 20 to 30 gallons of water, just in case, you know what I mean? Just basic things like generators and all that shit, too.

[A]

All of them sound like you got a bunker.

[E]

You got some guns, dried.

[B]

Oh, I can't ask you that.

[E]

I'll just say this. I grew up in a cult, so there's a way that you prepare for not being able to go out in the world for a while. And that's how I prepare at all times.

[A]

Got it. They got a word for that. What is that? The survivor.

[E]

No, you're right. It's called a survivor. Yeah, something. I know what you're talking about.

[A]

Yeah, it is a word for that.

[E]

It's a survivalist.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, I thought.

[A]

I thought so.

[C]

That sounds really good, people. That sounds very positive. Survivalist. Like, who is a survivalist?

[B]

Stay ready. Ain't got to get ready.

[A]

I'm relying on. I'm relying on. What up?

[C]

Yes, we're.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We record.

[D]

Me and walk the other way.

[C]

We're sitting talking.

[A]

Why would we be.

[E]

The fact you're letting him not come on set.

[A]

Wait. The funny is this is where we come to record for five, almost five years now with you. Like, this is the record place.

[C]

And he knows what it looks like when we're not recording.

[A]

We're over here.

[C]

We're over there. We're on the balcony.

[E]

I'll be back.

[A]

Your teeth look great.

[D]

Are you okay? Are you in any pain?

[A]

Go Ahead and make yourself some tea, man. Yo, this guy's the greatest. Look, this is why I like starting.

[C]

Yo, that about to be bad. Loud too, little tea machine. When it starts bubbling, start boiling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So glad you can almost join us. You halfway. You almost at work.

[B]

Yo, he chilling.

[A]

He's almost at work. That's my man. Audience Israelites Ish is here. Rejoice, rejoice, man. He made it from the dentist and he's gone. Yo, this weekend I'm relying on. On somebody from Doordash or Uber Eats to need a couple coins and have a bicycle. I don't ask for much.

[E]

Yo, bicycles.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Don't ask for much.

[B]

You know who gonna do it? The Chinese joint.

[C]

Oh, for sure.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

No, the Chinese joint. Go always.

[B]

I'm just saying if it gets shaky, you can count on him.

[A]

Anything outside of that. I'm relying on what black people have in their cabinets. Black people have. It's soup in there. Whenever you go in there.

[E]

That shit expired like seven years ago.

[B]

No, once you heat it up, it cook all that. Oh, bam.

[A]

Fix that right up.

[B]

Expiration dates are suggestions, not you hold.

[A]

Some oodles and noodles.

[B]

Always got some oodles.

[A]

I definitely got some tuna. I know I got tuna. I just bought some tuna. I got some in there. I'll be fine. I rely on. On humans ability to survive things for a short period of time. Like the news don't ever come on and say, yo, it's about to be up for the next month or two. Then I'd be like, okay, let's hit Acme. Did you do that for Covid a couple days? No, hell no. No, I didn't.

[E]

I'm talking about when the first everything shut down. You ain't go to supermarket and stuff.

[A]

No.

[D]

Yeah, you part of that. All they said on get paper towel or toilet paper.

[C]

Well, yeah, I picked toilet paper at one point.

[A]

That was bad. That was going to help us with COVID That was one of the dumbest things they did was say, hey, go get some toilet paper.

[C]

I bought a bidet that. You're not catching me slipping again.

[D]

I got a bidet too, during COVID That's weird. We have that in common.

[C]

Me clean. You know, clean are so clean.

[A]

That got that germ on the top of your mind, boy. My handyman. Handyman was doing some work the other day. When he finished, he said, let me use the bathroom. He came out of the bathroom and went to shake my hand.

[B]

Nah, nah, nah.

[A]

And I shook it. Assuming that you Know what I mean? You did what you supposed to do.

[D]

Damn.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Not a drop.

[E]

Not a drop of water.

[A]

Not a drop of water.

[C]

Sometimes you gotta not dry your hands just to tell the person that you're.

[A]

About to shake their hand.

[C]

I did wash.

[A]

It was not a drop of water. Dry hand.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

Hold. Yeah, I just pictured. I tell you what I picture hit you with a. I'll save you guys.

[D]

Y' all will be surprised how many people do not wash their hands, like, at all.

[A]

Women.

[D]

I thought it was a men thing, but it's women, too. This. These women were talking about it in the comment section. Some people were like, who cares? One person put, why do I have to wash my hands if I'm holding tissue? It's like, what cuz do get do the tissue.

[B]

Sometimes they don't know about the do flakes in the air.

[C]

Do flakes.

[E]

I call people. I was in the airport, like, last week, and somebody. Like, when I see people walk out the stall and don't do. I mean, don't wash their hands, I'd be like, this one works.

[D]

You do that?

[E]

Yeah. Cause I don't want to embarrass them. I just make. I act as if I think they thought the sink thing, where I'd be like, oh, this one works. And then they got to do something.

[D]

I'm surprised Mark don't fight Marcus.

[B]

I was just getting ready to say, somebody gonna fight Mark.

[E]

He shrugged it off and. But he did put on hand sanitizer, like, as. No, he just sanitizes the shit that's on his head.

[B]

Yeah, he said.

[A]

And that is the end of our hypochondriac segment. Really hope you guys enjoyed that. Enjoy that. Watch your hands after you use the bathroom. Don't ever forget, they had to teach us how.

[C]

That's the one thing I remember about the pandemic.

[A]

What?

[C]

They teach us how to wash our hands. The watches, the Apple watches had, like, a little timer on. It was disgusting.

[A]

Anyway, okay, what needs our attention most on this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful day?

[E]

It's going to be hard to talk new music without Ishi here.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Yo, you so stupid, man.

[E]

What do you want to talk about?

[B]

I mean, you know what I'm excited the most about? What's the producer versus having a daughter?

[C]

Yeah, we back.

[A]

Excuse me.

[B]

What'd you say?

[A]

Having a daughter.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's number one.

[B]

That's number one.

[A]

Okay, number two.

[C]

But number two is Mike, Will and Hit Boy.

[A]

I hate him.

[B]

I hate him.

[E]

He's a piece of shit, man.

[D]

I hate him.

[A]

Come on. We can start with Mike Will and Hit Boy. Come on, get in your bag. Mike Will and Hit Boy, end of the month, brought to you by Complex Apple Music. They are bringing back producer verses.

[C]

I love that.

[B]

We've been begging for this for how long?

[C]

For a long time. I love the songwriter, the producer versus much more than the artist. Star artist versus same, same. It's just more interesting. It highlights people that don't get highlighted. It's a lot of. Oh, I didn't know they did that too.

[B]

That's my favorite part.

[C]

It's a much more interesting versus to me.

[A]

All right, give me the tea. Give me the tea. Who you got winning?

[C]

Oh, this is tricky.

[B]

This is tricky.

[C]

This is a tricky.

[B]

And again, the way they do this now is a lot of performances. So you start questioning who's showing the up.

[C]

I don't. Yo, listen, that is an interesting. But I wonder if they will do pop.

[B]

Like, I'm pretty sure that's how. Because it's a lot of money behind these shits now.

[C]

Yeah, true.

[B]

So they have. It's not just y' all stand there and play records. We're gonna have some performance bonuses.

[A]

All right, that's cool. Who you got winning this?

[C]

So I think Mike Will has the bigger bangers, but I think that Hit Boy has a deeper pause catalog.

[B]

I got Mike.

[D]

Mike.

[B]

I'll tell you, I got Mike.

[C]

Mike is tough. Gonna be tough to stand in front all them race rumored records and are gonna work. Hit Boy got bangers too. I'm not. I love Hit Boy.

[B]

This is just gonna be great, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

What? Who y' all got?

[B]

I got Mike Will. You got Carson. Let's call him out.

[E]

Hit Boy, my man.

[C]

But I gotta go. Mike Will.

[B]

You go on? Mike Will.

[E]

Mike Will.

[D]

Mike Will.

[A]

Michael Williams recipes. Michael Williams. Mike Will did it. Mike Will's gonna do it. You think sometimes Will's about to do it bad.

[E]

Ain't gonna be good.

[C]

He got like Miley Cyrus.

[A]

That's why it gets tricky. I feel like Hit Boy, Hit Boy is my man, so it pays me to speak about him in this light. I feel like he. You know why I with him? I feel like he's. He'll walk into whatever fight for sure. Like he don't care about who's. Who's standing across from him. He don't care about the reputation, the hits. He's gonna walk in what's up on some hip hop shit.

[C]

I will say too, he's done this before. He he had Boy Wonder during the early stages of. Of this. So that. That is a nice advantage. Like, he knows the mistakes he may have made or the advantages that he has in this field.

[A]

He lost the Boy Wonder. Fair.

[D]

Right. But that might give him a leg up.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. Like, experience. Yeah, experience.

[E]

At some point, the history.

[B]

And Hit Boy move like he got a chip on his shoulder.

[C]

He do like he.

[B]

Like, even when we talk to him before, like, he. He acts like I. I could see him pulling out some.

[A]

Yo. I could see Mike Will being cutlery. Who's the person that moves some shit off you? Concierge. Hey, wherever that chip is located, I got somebody kindly removing it.

[B]

Knock that right off.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Last time, Hit Boy pulled out some unreleased Nip records. I think, too, that, like, he might have some in the cut. That it's like. Oh, now, hold up.

[A]

For the people unfamiliar out there. Pull up some. Pull up some. Pull up some of the records from each of their discographies. Come on.

[B]

I mean, Hit Boy can go in Paris, of course.

[C]

Of course.

[B]

Sickle mode, Colt.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Formation, Beyonce.

[C]

He got some tough outs.

[B]

We got racks in the middle. Nipsey Hussle. He got Click. Good music.

[A]

Boy Wonder one. Cause he had all them Drake writers.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it'll be nice to see Hit Boy get a shot against somebody that is not coming in with mostly a legacy act.

[C]

Yeah, true.

[A]

Yeah. They're both like, Mike. Yeah.

[C]

Tied to someone's.

[B]

It's a lot of shit, bro.

[A]

Read it to us. Come on.

[B]

All right, let me. I'm gonna go directly. Hold on, let me pull up Hit Boy.

[C]

I'll do some. Some Mike. Well, while you're doing that. He's got mercy. He's got no lie. Bands maker Dance Poured up.

[B]

Love me.

[C]

Wayne Bugatti.

[A]

Jeez.

[C]

Body Party is gonna work. The Miley Cyrus record. We can't stop all the Ray Shimmer.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God. These are tough records to stand in front of. No Flex Zone. No Tighten all the race. Sherman, you know they're gonna pop out for the Paradise. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I hope so.

[B]

I would hope so.

[A]

You hope. You know who gonna pop out?

[B]

Ray Shermer.

[D]

Yeah. I don't think they're busy thinking them.

[A]

Ain'T seen each other.

[C]

Humble.

[A]

17 years.

[C]

Humble asdna.

[A]

Shut your ass up. Okay, wait, wait.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You think they seen each other?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You think they text? Yes. They ain't texting.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

What'S their names? Slim Jimmy and who Sway Ain't texting. No damn, Slim Jimmy.

[B]

Okay, we'll see.

[A]

I'm the one that started that room in 2015 too. I think I broke them up. They put that two pack out the double album.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean he's got Backstreet Freestyle. He's got clique. He's got.

[B]

Yeah, I'm looking at. I'm over here.

[A]

He trophies.

[C]

Sicko mode.

[B]

He's got shit. He got a lot of shit, bro. He got a lot of Rihanna, Wu asap. Goldie Love.

[C]

Goldie.

[B]

Me too.

[C]

And one train.

[A]

It's got one train. Hit Boy. He better play it.

[C]

Oh, he's gonna play it.

[A]

He better play it.

[C]

I tell you, he's gonna play it.

[A]

Damn. This is gonna be fun.

[C]

This is gonna be fun.

[A]

This is gonna be fun. Let me not, Let me not, let me not. Let me not paint it like this is about to be some blowout. Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that.

[E]

If you had to put numbers on, you see 12, 8, 13, 7. What y' all think?

[A]

Yeah, I like a 12, 8.

[E]

I got Mike Will.

[B]

I still like Mike Will.

[A]

I like Mike will. 12, eight, I'm not bad. And if Hit Boy, I'll be rooting for Hit Boy, though.

[C]

That's my bad.

[A]

So I'm. Yeah, I'm rooting Van Boy. I ain't never been no studio with Mike Will. I ain't one of them type of. I'm riding, riding with my boy. Yeah, I'm rooting for Hit Boy. Yeah, this is.

[B]

I'm excited.

[A]

Ish. What's up, man?

[E]

What's up, yo?

[B]

Good day, sir.

[A]

It's a better day now.

[B]

I go to dentist.

[E]

Man, you crack a two?

[B]

Nah, I got a crown last week and something happened with it.

[A]

Oh, okay. You tell a story.

[B]

You asking me 30 minutes for that dentist. I got a crown down all the way in the back, the wisdom joint. And Dave was like, yo, it's normal. Like you could eat, wait, wait till the anesthesia wear off. But now every time I'm eating, that is hurting, hurting. Like every time I eat that is mad painful. So I made an appointment to go in there, but I didn't think it was gonna take this long. Like I was the first appointment.

[A]

That's the crazy part. Getting the crown fixed on a wizard.

[E]

Tooth in the background. Piece of cake.

[C]

Five min.

[B]

Yeah, you the first appointment.

[A]

So delusional about shit that you gotta just like.

[B]

Though I was there at 8 in the morning, you don't think that that shit gonna take that long. I'm telling you, you straight now. They got you, right? No, I gotta go back. I gotta go back tomorrow. Tuesday.

[E]

Tuesday at 9. But it should be fast.

[A]

Tuesday, 10:15.

[B]

You had you in and out. That's funny.

[A]

Oh, my God. Holy.

[E]

And you going living center. I know. Know we're in national broadcast. Like they don't know that Livingston is really like the fanciest of the fanciest. That's where the rich people go.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

How'd you. Why. Why'd you pick there?

[A]

Cause that's where the rich people got it.

[B]

You answered your own question. One of my friends referred me to that.

[E]

So your man's referred you.

[C]

Did they do a consultation for free?

[B]

Of course they did.

[A]

So please don't bring back over. Of course they did.

[E]

But one more question. Is Dennis a woman?

[B]

Nah, it's a man.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's two side by side.

[D]

Dennis.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

I'm glad you could be here. We're talking about Hit boy. And I heard you. Mike Will. Mike Will is a producer. Did some work with Miley Cyrus. All the greats.

[C]

Oh, Miley Cyrus, all the greats.

[B]

Got a future bag too, don't he?

[A]

Yeah. Who got a future bag? Mike. Mike Will. Yeah, you damn right.

[B]

How about that?

[A]

That and big hit Locked Up. Your dad can't come save you, boy.

[C]

Shout out to.

[A]

Big hit. Shout out to. Big hit. Shout out to.

[E]

All the hits.

[C]

All hits.

[A]

All the hits. You better bring them.

[C]

Yeah, it's going to be a night.

[A]

But I'm glad that. I'm glad they doing this, man. Shout out to Apple music. Shout out to Versus Shout out to Complex. I look forward to this. This is going to be a lot of fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

More producer battles, man. And songwriters. Bring them back.

[A]

Back to what else we got in music. What else we got music besides 21 versus Fabio?

[C]

Oh, I don't know the story.

[E]

The new Ari is out.

[A]

All right, let's go. 21 versus let's go.

[C]

Ari is nice too.

[A]

Anyway, the album came out.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

It's a great album.

[C]

It really is.

[E]

It's a great album.

[A]

Vacancy.

[E]

Yeah, vacancy's out 15 tracks. I think she's three for three on albums. I just think she agree. I think she puts out amazing albums. This one's different than the other two.

[C]

It was fun, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Like her Persona online does not give me. I'm about to get some fun music from her. But this was a very fun album. Yeah, I was shocked.

[E]

It took like the best parts of her first two. The sexuality, the vocals, little Jazz layers and then added, like, humor and fun. And it's light. You don't feel like. Like somebody's going through trauma when you listen to it.

[C]

I don't want to call it poppy, but it's got a. Like, it's. It's easy to listen to more. It's not like a super heady R and B album.

[A]

It's.

[C]

It's. It's fun. I thought that JD probably did it all, but he.

[A]

You didn't.

[C]

When I looked at the production credits.

[E]

Nah, it was a few different folk and the reggae tracks were good. And not a lot of features, I think just buju, right?

[C]

I think so, yeah.

[E]

Yeah. So it was one feature. It's all her. The rest of the album. I strongly recommend this. I don't know. I ain't gonna say it's her best one.

[C]

The first album's still the best.

[E]

Yeah, but it's strong.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[E]

It is. No fall off to me.

[A]

Well, say less. I'm certainly going to check this out after that glowing review. And I was gonna check it out anyway. Cause Ari is fucking Queen. Folded before for Kehlani. Every Ari song, Ari gonna keep a few about just getting folded. Bent up. Yeah, I love that. I love that. That's why I don't get how she act like that online.

[C]

Yeah, it doesn't.

[A]

It. Yeah, it don't match.

[E]

It don't match the albums.

[A]

No. Yeah, it don't match. But anybody is making music about getting folded. I'm into it. Shout out to Ari Leonard. I bought another folded pack over the. Over the weekend.

[C]

There's more still.

[B]

What's this one?

[A]

This one was. They got acapella. They got a unfolded version. They got a.

[C]

What's the unfolded.

[A]

Unfolded is a different version of the.

[C]

I was just the one that was like the live version or some.

[A]

Let me see, let me see, let me see.

[B]

Came over there.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

That'S what happened, right? He came to get his. Yeah. And now it's. I just want to talk.

[A]

Unfold it back in the drawer.

[B]

So take your stuff and leave.

[A]

If you're tired of hearing me talk about folded, just hit the skip button. Yeah, but I told you, I'mma buy it every time they put it out.

[D]

It's so silly of me to act like I don't need you back.

[A]

You get the point.

[E]

Oh.

[D]

All I could think about is that since I seen you Then I know I didn't have to walk away All.

[A]

I had to do was ask for space. Oh, my God, I love that.

[B]

Yeah, I Love it. I love it.

[A]

I love it. My whole algorithm is unfamous. People singing folded, playing folded on a guitar. Some Japanese was singing folded on a. On a microphone. You saw him. He killed. That he was killing. Yes, my algorithm is nothing but folded. But anyway, what else came out in our new music?

[B]

Go ahead. Oh, 42 Doug returned with his new mixtape. It's called Part Three, which is the young Internet turn three, but it's just labeled Part Three. Quick 30 minute tape, 10 songs, features Rallo, Lil Baby, Glorilla, G, Herbo, a couple other folks.

[A]

Oh, gym playlist. It's my new gym playlist you're naming.

[B]

For all of us 42 dog fans who wasn't kind of feeling the album, wasn't feeling a couple singles beforehand. Thought maybe he was kind of slipping off. Off. I'm here to tell you, he is 100 back with this project. Like, this is the dog that y' all know I'm a huge fan. And anybody who's a huge fan, this is the dog we wanted. So we got ESTG is on there too. No AD. No AD.

[A]

42 Doug to the list.

[B]

He's CMG.

[A]

Oh, so you the list already.

[C]

All right, you won.

[B]

But anyway, he's back. So y' all are like this. I should have done the last project check. So I. I keep it a buck, but.

[A]

Yeah, well, I'mma check it out.

[B]

Go and cop that. Part three. What else is up?

[C]

Rock Marciano dropped a Project 656. It's. It's Rock Marciano. It's weird loops and abstract raps. And it's great. I love it. 30 minute project, no major features. Errol Holden's the only feature. Sounds great. My sleeper album was the IDK album, which is etds a mixtape. This got heat on it. We already played the pusher record. IDK is nice. Yo, this right here.

[B]

Hey, listen, If I was a killer, I would be like Luigi, do it real clean, Treat the strap like a squeegee.

[A]

Okay, everybody with you and everyone needy.

[B]

How the fuck we supposed to call Is this when everyone greedy?

[E]

That's why I move out myself.

[A]

I don't need no one help hit.

[B]

The lick on my lonely. Cause they might just tell every one of you fake Y' all plastic as hell.

[A]

Me and saw fat rapper man we never go in jail.

[B]

I pray the thugs keep thugging the hoes keep going a fat ass and shaking. While the liquor keep pouring and they keep looking. Cause I keep winning and I keep.

[A]

Up so I keep grinning Turning a hat to a Head of rapper Turning a hat to a head full of rat Turning a hat to a head full of rap.

[C]

This is tough. Album's real talk. He's got a bunch of different vibes on here.

[B]

I'm gonna check that out.

[A]

That sound good. But if it come on in the spot, I am. I am gonna look around.

[B]

That's not spot music.

[A]

If you come on in the spot that I am, then I'm in. I'm gonna peek around.

[C]

It's not really the spots that you go to kind of vibes.

[A]

I'm gonna go talk to the manager.

[B]

Might catch that beat.

[A]

Yo, I'm that dude now. If I'm in this bike and I look over the DJ booth and it ain't no there. It's just a TDK playing. I go call the manager. Yo, dog, it's 1:30.

[C]

Oh, they should have a DJ.

[B]

Yeah, they should be a DJ.

[A]

That's. That's what I'm saying. But the New York DJs is getting on. They coming in the New York DJs get behind that little booth. It'd be 2:15am, fam.

[B]

The New York DJs was recording a mix at home, putting it in the. With the drops and everything and then leaving. Indeed.

[E]

That's crazy.

[B]

We saw it. You saw it?

[A]

Yeah, you know, I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I did. I did. Let's see, let's see, let's see.

[B]

What else?

[A]

If. Is there anything else in new music or. Can I get to the Beef?

[E]

Get to the. Because I got. I was thinking about another music.

[A]

Let's get to the beef. Let's do it. I woke up to this beat. Oh, look at you.

[B]

That's what you woke up to. That's the beef. Yeah.

[A]

Yo, I'm sick of Instagram. I need to speak to the manager, let them know how faithful I'm being. For real Instagram, boy.

[E]

Instagram rely on you, man. Instagram relies on you, man.

[B]

You ain't like that picture.

[E]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The algorithms be fucking you up. Everything you doing, shit you not doing, man.

[D]

Y' all faces be floating everywhere.

[A]

And my girl sent me all the mid that. My face is floating around. She sent all the mid like, look, nigga, you still. I got the You Joe Budden speech. That's how bad it was. That's how bad I was. It was.

[B]

Can't be under this mid.

[A]

Yo, dog, you are Joe Button. Look what you did.

[C]

I did see you under a white girl the other day. I was like you expanded.

[B]

Who you be seeing the most out there in these streets?

[D]

These two.

[B]

Thank you.

[D]

Hands down.

[E]

And they be in the same spots. Same spots, yeah.

[A]

Right there.

[C]

I be seeing.

[D]

Than Joe more than Ish, but I see both Ish and Joe the most. I'm changing that Joe just always like. It just makes me. It's like, what the are you doing here? Like, it's always somewhere. I don't expect him to be like. It's funny, though.

[A]

Oh, man. Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Let's get to the beef.

[A]

Fabio foreign versus 21 savage. I woke up to 21 savage cursing out fo Foreign. I didn't understand why, but it dates back to Fabio Foreign's academics interview, in which he said, go back before Savage is a street like future. I look at him like he's.

[E]

He.

[A]

He a magnet.

[D]

What's.

[A]

What's making. What's making. What's making you think that Savage is a street good.

[E]

And seriously. Right.

[A]

That's enough right there.

[E]

The same when you said streets.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think he said that because he loves stuff. Honestly, the same thing you've heard about or well, not heard.

[B]

Maybe you just know. All right.

[E]

The same thing I've heard about baby.

[B]

When it come to he be with and how they get down. Same thing I've heard about saps. Same.

[A]

Nobody play with him.

[B]

It ain't like that. You know what I mean? Heard the same thing.

[A]

That's why SW is the biggest.

[B]

No. Well, musically, yeah, of course.

[E]

He's a Jay Z of Atlanta.

[B]

Clearly.

[D]

Clearly.

[A]

I think Fabio. I think he going to drop two albums this year. Yeah. Future's been picking up what the 21 Savage is treatment.

[D]

He's just.

[A]

Stop it street where the foil stop in Atlanta.

[E]

You could only be a street where you from, like in Montana. Don't know if you're not true. It's not true.

[A]

You're a certain type of. You're a certain type of everywhere. And your name and your.

[B]

Your arm is going to be able to stretch in certain different parts of the world.

[E]

It's the Satin states.

[A]

Savage one of them. Honestly, like, I'm not. I'm not even. I'm not of what's going on in this clip.

[E]

No, no, it's not.

[A]

But they continue.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

It's really.

[A]

I feel like I've seen enough and obviously.

[B]

I don't know.

[E]

I don't see.

[B]

I see a lot of.

[E]

But like, I love being the one.

[A]

That has to explain.

[B]

I've never really been around baby, but.

[E]

Everything I've heard about baby And. And how you rolling to get down with.

[A]

I know how they're. They're going, right? I know. I hear the same thing.

[E]

If you.

[A]

If I was to talk about Atlanta. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[B]

Why still used to be on that.

[A]

Wait, baby, on that. Come on, act mute up Savage on that. Then there's a lot of other people.

[B]

No, they always told me Migos was.

[A]

From Gwinnett.

[E]

Which I don't know what that means.

[A]

So how come. How come six nine could. Could diss 21 savage so much? Yeah, but he dis New York, too.

[E]

Like he be this in New York.

[A]

Like he's gonna stop.

[E]

Nah, but you saying this.

[A]

You saying this. All right, enough of that. Which provoked 21 Savage to say this.

[B]

Your foreign shut your ass up.

[D]

Name.

[B]

Don'T think cause a trying to change that. Y' all sit down somewhere, man. Straight up. If your ass walk around with a.38, don't say nothing to me about the street. Straight up. If your ass 35 or older and you've been trying to rap since you was goddamn 17, 16, 15. Me don't say nothing to me about the street. You don't know nothing about the street. You ain't did nothing in the street. Straight up.

[A]

Long clip. But I'm letting it play.

[B]

Savage this, Savage that. Savage this. Savage just slapped the out. One of y' all. Don't think cause Savage on some positive, that is. Oh, let's talk about Savage every day. Let's. Let's talk about Savage. Y N. This ain't that. Y' all still get ass whooped straight up around looking for clout, man. Old as hell po as a in another state. How the can you tell a from a whole another state what they is? You don't even know no what the hell. What the hell y' all has been want to be rappers, y' all whole life ain't that nothing in the street. Y' all ain't seen enough in the street to even feel how I feel about the street.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's where the disconnect come in. I don't give a about what your partners didn't did. I don't give a about what your hood did. I'm talking to y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

Y' all as individuals. Y' all ain't did nothing in the street. So y' all don't have no feelings towards. Y' all ain't cried enough. Y' all ain't lost enough. Straight up. Y' all better stick to rapping.

[D]

Man.

[B]

Good size, man. Stick a fork in it. Bro, y' all be gangster as a area 59 man. Remote location ass man. Seen y' all in 30 years. I need to keep trying to take the way a word some to make it to. To. To go at a diss a cause y' all been wanted. Ben Hayne. I don't know what the hell y' all motives be.

[A]

It's almost done.

[B]

Y' all be acting like y' all.

[E]

Want to suck dick.

[B]

Always talking about another trying to ass up. Take my wrong child. Everybody tough now. Fabio, Foreign, shut your ass up.

[C]

He really didn't like that.

[A]

Okay, you get the gist of it. Sorry if that was a little long. That was 500 foreign versus 21 savage. Ice, you said it started a little.

[B]

Bit before then, started before that. It started when the. The whole the streets thing very, very first started, and Fabio went on his Twitter and responded to him. Well, not responded, but he kind of directly addressed it. He was just saying, I can't get down with that fuck the street shit. It basically afforded us too many opportunities. A lot of shit came from the streets. I would never turn my back and say, fuck the streets. So just. So if you're wondering why he would even be asked that question by act, it was from that tweet in response to it that he was kind of addressing. They were trying to see what your issue was. And Fabio has since responded to 21 Savage's clip there. He put a little post up on Instagram. I'm not gonna read the whole post. Cause it's very disrespectful at the end. But he says. I said what I said no back and forth with a nigga who said fuck the streets and invited him to meet Frank and all that other shit.

[A]

All right, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. Let us hear it. How do you feel?

[E]

This is the one thing they're not gonna ask me.

[A]

Where do you weigh in on this, man?

[E]

I know the world, really? Who cares? But what I think on this, my thought was one, as soon as it started and I heard this, I was like, I'm so tired of this conversation. I'm so tired of this fuck the streets conversation. The who's street and who's not conversation.

[C]

Same.

[E]

Cause we all wallowing in some bullshit. I don't know who's street and who. Not everything I know about 21 Savage say he is who he says he is, but I don't really care that much. It just seems like an unnecessary conversation when you're doing an interview.

[A]

You.

[E]

You could have just left that one alone you ain't have to comment on. You have to comment on him. You could let it rock. So I'm not mad at 21 for the way he responded. I thought it was funny, but I just wish the whole thing didn't happen because it's stupid.

[A]

Agreed. Yeah, I agree. I don't really care. I mean, I know that's a hot water cooler topic out there. I don't care who street and who not street. Yeah.

[C]

The who street Olympics is.

[A]

Yeah. Exhausting me at all. To the dudes that's not street. Get it how you live it to the dudes that are street, no concern to me. I'm gonna see you at a steakhouse or somewhere. I'm not gonna see y' all at the. At the duel, at the. At the gun show.

[D]

I've never seen something that kind of has, like, that's positive in nature get such, like a. Like a negative backlash. It's like it was positive. So it's like, even if you don't agree, I don't know why it irritated so many niggas. Like, niggas seem really pissed. Like, how dare you say. It's like. Like, wouldn't that be something you want your son or your nephew to hear? Or. You know what I mean? I don't know. I think that people took a lot what he said the wrong way from the beginning. The whole. They took it the wrong way anyway. So that's why I think a lot of people were, like, angry about it. But at the end of the day, for me, none of you entertainer niggas is real street niggas. Like, real street niggas wouldn't be famous rappers. So what the fuck are we talking about? Don't even go together. You know, for the most part, it is affiliation or what the nigga next to you went through or whatever. So I don't know, but it's just stupid and I don't know. I feel like Favio always do a lot on Twitter. Like, always.

[B]

Well, I mean, he. To answer your question, Wasser, like, I'm gonna read one of his original tweets. He said, I could understand saying, fuck jail, fuck crashing out over dumb ass shit. Fucking pressing the niggas in the hood that wanna hold you back. Anyway. Fuck violence. But it is something special about the streets that you can't find nowhere else in the world. I'm from New York and the streets is bad out here. But there's a few good men I met in the streets. Streets that I met that would be in my heart forever. And at the end of the day, I want to thank the streets for supporting me. I want to thank the streets for teaching me how to survive and how to thrive in the rooms that help change my life. Yes, it is a bunch of negative. But not every. But everything has negatives. So every time we see a thing we don't like or hear some shit we don't want to hear, we gonna say it. Nah, I can't jack that. I kind of get what he's saying, too. I just think is taking that whole past each other. They're taking his. What Savage was saying.

[C]

Savage was saying that.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

Just say a catchphrase.

[B]

They were hung up. They were hung up on the word streets, right? Because he's saying the streets. He's saying all the negative that comes with the streets. And you're saying, I want him to say all the negative that comes with the streets.

[D]

He's responding. Like, he said the ghetto, the hood, it's like, that's a different thing. And then at the end of the day, like, oh, I want to. I have never in my life heard a street say, well, first of all, I want to thank the street. The streets for stabbing me in my back and taking my brother. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, if you. That's why the Streets are something people survive.

[B]

It ain't something that you long for.

[D]

Yeah, like, what are you talking about?

[B]

You endure, and they could build character, and it could build you up based on the adversity that you had to face. But that ain't nothing that you want for your children. That ain't nothing that you want for nobody that you love. So the. The point that hit me was when a 21 was like, yo, you niggas can't talk to me because y' all haven't cried enough. Enough. That is deep. Because that is taking our kids away, taking your brothers away, taking your family members away. That shit is real. And that. You go through that enough times, you'd be like, man, that shit right. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think there's nothing wrong with what he said. Like. Like, yo, you go through that enough times, and you start hearing the old head talk about the cycle of deception that the Streets presents for us. That shit is valid when they're Nick. I'm talking about niggas that. That was. Gave their life to the. When they start saying, yo, that is a. A farce.

[C]

You.

[B]

You got it. It's not worth it. You got something different So I, I ain't opposed to what he said.

[A]

And I like the OGs with that message. Yeah, I like, I like the OGs giving the blunt and honest truth about all you endure when you are in the streets.

[B]

And at this point, Savage is OG to, to the younger ones. They look at him like that, he's one of them. So yeah, you want to hear it from them. You want to hear it from the ones that you're actually looking up to. Because the ones older than him, the younger niggas don't want to hear what you got to say.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Right. You need to hear it from your. We say all the time, even we talk about certain celebrities. Like if they have somebody that'll just pull them to the side and talk to them, it has to come from someone whose word matters to you.

[E]

Right.

[B]

I'm sorry, 21's word matter to these young. So to Mona point, I disagree, agree and I always agree with Mona. But it's some that really was knee deep in the streets, bro. And rap was they outlet to get away from the streets. So I don't think that A had to be telling a man's story. Some of these is telling their own stories. Some of these really was outside going crazy. And I seen them do it music, music saved them, you know what I'm saying?

[E]

And some did it at the same time. A bunch of Philly rappers and think about.

[B]

Yeah made their transition.

[D]

Y'. All. When I say that, it's not like I'm saying nobody. But in the big scene, these entertainer are not treat like you. It doesn't, it doesn't go together. But this, this is stupid. And it's like it would be better if they could sit down, have a conversation. But this is not how it's going to go. Because the automatic thing is like, why you disrespecting me? I ain't even say nothing to you, you know what I mean? It's just, it's silly.

[A]

I don't know who street or who not. But if you're listening, I wouldn't just hop over the baby's fence trying to look at hey, there's a few of these where you ain't got to know what they are. You know the decision they will make in the event you hop over their fence and they happen to be home.

[B]

Please. Son of Lord walking around with a 30 year old 8 Leave me alone. Yeah, see, that's what I heard. You heard that part too. I heard that like, man, you got okay.

[A]

Favio though recently, he recently went Online and was like, yo, I'm checking myself into a program. I'mma get these drugs out my system. The drinking. I'm going to get my thoughts white, right? Some of these niggas, I don't need to be around. Just the negativity. I'm off of that. So, I mean, I think if he continues down that course, he'll eventually end up where 21 is in the mindset is what I'm saying.

[E]

I hope so.

[C]

Sounds like everyone's saying the same, just in different ways.

[B]

He just had a semantics.

[C]

Yeah, it just.

[B]

I ain't like you saying Streets. Substitute it with something that I like, and the whole message works.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Hey, prayers to all of you. It's a blessing to be alive. It feel good to wake up in the morning. I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. It does. It does. Oh, man, look at me. Just filled with positivity today. Why I'm feeling so good. What's going on?

[C]

I got to check that calm before the storm.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I got to look into my life. No pun intended.

[C]

Got to be positive before we get trapped in the house for the next 48 hours.

[D]

Only people get positive when they get skinny. He can look down. You know what I mean? See that thing? A little better.

[A]

I didn't. I. I didn't take my. This week. I'm waiting for Kino to walk in here.

[E]

Do you. Do you get, like, withdrawal, bro?

[C]

I thought. I thought the keynote it up last time. You think he's gonna do better?

[A]

You gotta do it right now. He'll do it right. No, I haven't. I haven't felt that yet. The is still in there. But I was supposed to take it.

[E]

Already got you. So you still don't have appetite.

[A]

None of that game.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yo, I got nervous when I had no more in the crib. Like when you had no more cigarettes. That same feeling. That same feeling, boy. No more Z. I had to itch. I had to itch.

[C]

How long you been doing that for?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

How long you be on that?

[A]

Another month.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

We'll see how I feel then.

[E]

You got me thinking about doing it. My wife, too, actually.

[A]

That is great.

[C]

Why would you.

[E]

That is lingering belly.

[A]

He's been in so locos for two weeks. Y' all talking about. Why would he do it?

[E]

That's true.

[A]

He's getting the urge to go out and have a Bacardi. That's.

[B]

That's.

[E]

That's why.

[A]

That's why.

[E]

Midlife crisis got you. I did.

[B]

I Was in the hole.

[E]

Why you gonna be like that?

[A]

It's get yourself together, man. What you say?

[B]

I had a. I was at my doctor's on Monday, and I just was like, yo, I'm hearing all this. What's your take on it?

[E]

And just make it small talk.

[B]

No, I wanted to. I wanted to get some information. I'm keeping it a buck. So I asked her. Even with the working out, I just asked her and she was just like, nah, I don't.

[A]

Don't.

[B]

Because you got to keep doing it. And she was like, so no matter what. Because I'm like, I'm working out, I'm seeing changes, but I'm still not dropping to where I want to be.

[A]

All right, you see, we got one. He got one important. He got one important. Four doctors or one that doesn't want.

[C]

To get him addicted.

[A]

See, he got one of doctors. That's not part of the kickback program.

[E]

You know, the fans think you already doing it.

[B]

I don't care what they do.

[E]

There was a whole group thing about it. We just going to pretend he's not getting small.

[A]

Every.

[E]

I'm like, the nigga's working out.

[B]

I'm working out constantly.

[A]

So great.

[E]

You do.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[E]

We can totally see the difference.

[B]

Difference. Thank you.

[A]

Appreciate that. Now your counterpart over there, we get it together.

[E]

This look good too.

[B]

I ain't even. I'm not.

[A]

Come on, play back with me. I'm good.

[D]

His crown sword play back with me today.

[A]

Oh, yeah. He can't talk. Nigga mouth is going through it over there. You can't even laugh.

[B]

Let. I'm not letting you. Yeah, I. I'll tuck my gun away, bro. I don't want no smoke.

[A]

All right, fine. Then I have to do the ad.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

If you don't want to play, I'll do that. All right, now it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize fix. And I want to get right to it, but my good brother is sitting here, mouth in pain.

[D]

Boy sacrifice.

[A]

Damn, man. I would have called out, man. Your good will and spirit and just commitment to the gig, that motivate me, bro.

[D]

I'm coming at nine next week, bro.

[B]

Yo, catch you in the club with a.

[A]

With a smooth left. It's over. Well, that's why he don't be in the clubs. Freeze. He don't go out to clubs. He go out.

[D]

He went out for his birthday.

[A]

He don't go out that day.

[B]

I don't go out the club.

[A]

He went to Sabor. He Went over there where they. Not where they. They gonna let him live.

[B]

How you know I don't go to sleep?

[A]

Clubs. Cuz I be in clubs.

[B]

You don't.

[A]

I be in clubs.

[B]

It's a word that go in front of the clubs.

[A]

I'll be in clubs. I'll be in clubs. Not with dental work done either.

[B]

You got dental work, your whole mouth is done.

[C]

Oh, what you talking about?

[A]

I took one though. I took one. I tested these.

[B]

I know. What's your point?

[A]

I got snuffed with the veneers. Yeah, I got snuffed with my. For a take. I said trying to take the pod to the next level. Can't. Carrying again. Carrying again. I got punched in the face cause wouldn't do a take. No, I'll take the part to the next level, man. I get my life for this.

[D]

Did the veneers get loose or they were just like.

[A]

They were cool.

[D]

That's that porcelain work, not that composite we're having.

[A]

Big ish.

[B]

You pay me what you make. I'll take a couple punches. Oh, all right.

[A]

Then I'll give you. You can make what?

[B]

I can make what? I'm fantastic.

[A]

If you stop procrastinating.

[B]

I know you think you can do that? You said carrying.

[A]

I got punched cuz I was carrying these across. If you stop procrastinating. No, you can make what I make. What you think about that?

[D]

You can make what I make. You stop procrastinating is a lie.

[A]

It's not a lie. It's not a lie. It ain't a lie. But that's why he get mad at me anytime I ask him, yo man, why you won't like. Cuz he know I got a point.

[B]

I didn't say you don't.

[A]

But that's why he'd be like, yo, just shut the up. Don't talk about my procrastination. That is why he do it, cuz he know I have a valid point.

[B]

Shut up.

[E]

Either.

[D]

I don't get it. What do you mean by if he. If he didn't procrastinate? He can make what? Like what? What are we talking about?

[B]

If you are more assertive and aggressive in following, pursuing opportunities. Yeah. You could make more.

[D]

You are a natural, potter.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Like you are a podcast.

[A]

And we'll do it for free if you give him your phone number. Phone with this. That's my point about him.

[D]

I've been on the phone with this. It's not a conversation, it's more of a dissertation or a TED talk. Oh, and sometimes he allows you to give opinion. Sometimes he let me say stuff.

[A]

But what y' all be on the phone talking about?

[B]

You doing that again?

[E]

You still at it?

[B]

What? What y' all talking about?

[D]

That's my pod brother.

[B]

What you talk about? Yo, we got a lot in common. My.

[E]

We do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See, Ish talk to people so much, he know what he has in common with them. Yeah, you don't even hear him.

[B]

That's what normal people dog food.

[A]

I don't want to hear none of that. Y' all talking about extra friendly with.

[D]

Ice and Ish and Mark. The only motherfucker that don't answer my call since I got this job is Joe Button.

[A]

I answer your call. You was getting dicked down in a waterbed and had to creep to the bathroom. Oh, shit. You was getting dicked down with a waterbed that was on the floor and you had to creep in the back.

[E]

Never mind. Never mind.

[A]

That's what happened when I was trying to talk.

[D]

That's what I get.

[A]

I don't want to talk to nobody with a nigga in the background naked. He got the towel on like he just did some work. Joe Button on the phone. So. Hey, Mona. No, sorry. That's not my. That's not how that go then. Sorry. I'm on his niece. I don't know if you be. Know I only be getting dick down on the water bed that's on the floor going on.

[D]

She ain't got no damn water be.

[A]

She had to walk over to a bathroom with towel in it. The little small square towel, too. The nicer towel.

[D]

See that, y'? All that bathroom. Nice towel. He is full of that bedroom.

[A]

Nice.

[E]

Back down quick. She never going to mention the phone again.

[A]

Mona better not be trying to play homeboy. She was fucking on the waterbed. You look like you was into him. You look like you was trying to show him who you work for. Look, look, the boss calling.

[D]

That's exactly what I was doing. Thanks for it up anyways. I was like, give me a second. Joe Button's on the phone. Joe, what is it?

[A]

Shout out to homeboy.

[D]

Damn, Joe. What?

[A]

Shout out to homeboy.

[B]

Man, fuck homeboy. Shout the four by fours. You're an idiot, bro.

[A]

Ish. I'm gonna call you later, man. We gonna talk. No, yeah.

[E]

I'm sure of that.

[B]

Yeah, that's not happening.

[A]

Okay, so, Prize Picks. Let me tell you about Prize Picks. This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. Whether you're starting a new routine or making player picks for the very first time. Trying something new can be tough. But in life and on Prize picks, it always feels good to be right with high pressure. Playoff Matchup Playoff matchups every weekend and elite hoops action almost every night, the action never stops and prize picks let you take control. Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line, and pick more or less for your chance to win big. Big Prize Picks news coming next month. You didn't hear it from me. Also, Prize picks now has early payouts, so if your player gets off to a hot start, you now have the option to cash out those winnings before the game even finishes. Let's go to the Ish picks of the week, see if he's going to get anybody paid out there. Ish is going with Rashid Shahid for more than 24 receiving yards. Kenneth Walker for less than 20 rushing attempts. No, I'm against that one. Kobe Parkinson for more than 23 receiving yards. He name a nigga I don't even know in this moment. Blake Corum for more than 28 rushing yards. I like that one. And Raman Dre Stevenson for more than 48 rushing yards. Oh, and he's got Drake May for more than 225 passing yards. Sounds like a losing ticket, but for sure I ain't going to hold you. Sounds like a real bummer of a ticket, but if you lose, it's still good on me. It's almost better if you. If you lose, it's still y' all in the wrong direction. Who that? He said Kobe Allinson, Kobe, Parkinson, whatever.

[B]

I bet you get 24 passes.

[A]

I bet you this is a real loser of a ticket. I'll tell you that one. I'll tell you that one. How about what you got to say for yourself? You could keep your streak alive.

[B]

Yo, you don't even know who the people are.

[A]

I have no idea. I have no clue. Cold Parkinson's is. I wouldn't know if he got Parkinson's or he don't. Listen, if you download the app right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly. So you feel better in the event that you lose. Only on price picks where it's good to be right and wrong. Shit, just do it there. Whatever you do. All right, listen, if you're just now joining us, us severe snowstorm coming to the south and to the Tri State area this weekend. Most of y', all, some of y', all, you know, I mean, prepare Load the fridge up. Buy your toilet paper. Buy your paper towels, bread, soup, sandwich meat, whatever you buy out there. Are there snow. Are there snowstorm rules that. That we need to announce to anybody out there? Yeah, just be careful.

[B]

Careful like when you.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you shoot the club up. Now that's a Virgo. That's a Virgo.

[B]

I was about to say when you go by the water and toilet tissue, get a 12 pack.

[A]

My n. I know that show that you and your girl binge watching is good. While y' all under the blanket and you got the heat on, so it's feeling toasty.

[C]

And I have been preparing that. I'm not trying to watch nothing this week knowing that we're going to be.

[A]

Sitting around watching TV all week, shoot some up parks. Man, stop playing, man. Let R know what time it is. Let rim know what's really good. It can happen to her depending on where the temperature is.

[B]

Y' all be careful. You know, you meet up, meet a Saturday night at the spot, she's not leaving for a couple years.

[E]

No new house guests.

[B]

You'll bring something home on a Saturday night in a snowstorm. I'm telling you, something new.

[A]

Never the case.

[B]

That's why you tell them to be mom.

[A]

Never the case.

[E]

Don't do that.

[B]

That's crazy. The horny will make a. Bring something home.

[A]

Bring something home.

[E]

I could get a home. You get out by the morning, you look at after 10 inches of snow, you can't.

[B]

Now you stuck with.

[D]

You call that Uber? They keep switching the driver. Just take another nap now.

[A]

You bring some home. No, but call over a single mother who's feeling lonely and desperate while she's in her house and could trek it back home when she's done.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

And.

[B]

And baby daddy just took the kids for the weekend.

[A]

Yeah, she in there by herself, poor. No, son. And you took the word out.

[D]

Brain. Ain't nobody. Ain't no dad coming to get no.

[B]

Goddamn kids this weekend.

[C]

Blizzard.

[A]

Hell no.

[D]

Don't come when it's sunny. Damn sure ain't coming in the blizzard. Let's be realistic here.

[A]

That's true, too, ain't it? No, my baby mom's called me to remind me my weekend was going up because it was snowing. I'm like, I know, nigga.

[B]

Just.

[A]

Just make sure. You thought I had a trick up my sleeve. No, that's you, Cynthia. Cynthia keep a trick, boy. And we still got to talk about that little Dr. Trip anyway, yo, if you think long enough. That's the problem with A snowstorm. You in there in your house thinking.

[B]

Oh, yeah, idle time.

[A]

You know how much I think of in house. I just googled the other day.

[B]

Why is.

[A]

Is ducks in duck sauce? What?

[C]

That is an interesting question.

[A]

I. I asked it. I'd be home just typing, typing in the bakery.

[C]

I wanted to know why is it called duck sauce then?

[A]

Because it's traditionally served. Put it on the duck with, like, barbecue sauce.

[E]

Doesn't have meat in it.

[C]

What about oyster sauce?

[A]

Wait, but that's a stupid name. Then that is a dumb name. That's a dumb name. What to call it duck sauce because it's served with duck.

[B]

It's the sauce you put on the.

[E]

Duck when you eat. Barbecue sauce. What do you call it?

[A]

Have we been putting it on duck?

[B]

No, we don't do shit we supposed to do. Yo, you ain't start duck sauce. They got duck in the Chinese restaurant. They just don't serve it to y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

You ever walk in there eating at their table, it don't be the. That's on the menu facts.

[A]

Oh, that's true.

[B]

They should be looking good on it. Don't give me chicken fried rice all the time.

[A]

I'll be on Googling. And my barber. My barber came over the other day. Want to argue with me about how New Jersey is horrible for entrepreneurs? Saying that to me as he's cutting my hair in New Jersey. Up, up, up, up, up. I hit the Google. Hey, how's New Jersey entrepreneurs? Oh, mad entrepreneurs in New Jersey.

[B]

88,000.

[A]

But is it good for small businesses? Then he. Then he switched it. He pivoted. He went to, well, black businesses. Okay, well, let me type that in. Oh, what do you know? Jersey kicking ass there, too. Jersey is good for entrepreneurs. I don't know what the fuck he was talking about. Then he switched it to barbershops. All right, then, nigga. I'm done talking to you, man.

[C]

Very specific.

[B]

Wait, hold up. All the black barbers out there.

[E]

I'm making sure that's true. Right?

[A]

Yeah. Nah, if you a black barber, I could see you being mad in New Jersey.

[B]

Well, I can see you being mad for sure, because they here, and you know what they do.

[A]

I can see you being mad in New Jersey. They took over.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

Who?

[E]

Dominicans.

[A]

Dominicans.

[B]

I can't.

[E]

Your barber's Dominican, right?

[B]

No, my barber's black. Shout out, Charlie.

[D]

Shout out to you.

[A]

And your barber's Asian, right? Korean. That's why your mustache be like that.

[B]

What's your excuse? It's Asian.

[D]

Or Dominican. Now the cheaper cuts, the 175. The Asians take 17.

[A]

How much you pay your Asian?

[B]

100?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Damn, you got Jackie Chan.

[A]

That's racist.

[E]

That's quite racist.

[A]

That's really racist. I'm with you, though. Bruce Lee, he got one. A good agent per haircut.

[E]

That's with the tip. Or you give me 100 plus a tip.

[A]

Tip. They shaving him up with a strip drink.

[D]

They wash your hair. Oh, oh, that's lit.

[A]

They wash. All right, now you dragging it. If you talk to him too long, he'll start lying. If you talk to him too long because he's a talker. If you talk too long, he'll start lying. Yeah. Hey, massage. Just shut your ass up.

[D]

Listen, I didn't know that so many barbershops don't wash hair. I didn't know that was like.

[B]

They don't do that. Don't. So when you get in a barber shop and you go to the $10 barber, guess what happens? You out the chair in seven minutes, and they onto the. The next.

[A]

And then you go to the happy ending room, the bar, the Asian barbershop.

[D]

Yo, that's not.

[A]

No, that's very Asian barbershop.

[B]

Y.

[D]

But at the same time, Jackie Chan is Asian.

[A]

Two for one, homeboy. Get you right in the back, homeboy nuts, bro. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. I'm still talking about these snowstorm rules, but the young. Y' all talking about bringing people home in the snowstorm. The young people ain't even no more.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So young people. They're not drinking. They not. They not with marriage. They not with nothing.

[E]

They're not social.

[D]

They fall in love with who they love.

[B]

They. They not having children.

[A]

They're having much less sex.

[D]

They're not having less sex.

[B]

Why are they not.

[D]

Because they're online.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

All day.

[A]

They're a lot less social across the board.

[B]

They don't want no real world interaction.

[A]

There's all these pieces talking about how nightlife, black nightlife in particular across the major cities in the US Is dying rapidly because of the decline in drinking. The decline in.

[B]

It's not that. That's a cop out.

[A]

No, that's a lot of.

[B]

I think it's a cop out. It's the pricing that it costs to party in these major cities. So when we was young, you could go into this spot for $20 and you dance and you met some girls and you went to the bar. What has happened is body bottle culture has ruined nightlife in the major Cities to go to new yo.

[C]

I think legalization of marijuana helps.

[B]

No, I'm talking about even in the.

[A]

Black kids is getting with their friends vaping in a hallway and that's the.

[B]

Night because they cannot afford to go to a spot. If it's three dudes when we was young, three niggas. $20 ahead. You go into club club. Now if you go to a New York City club and it's three men, they want you to buy a bottle. 700. You asking 22 year old, 23 year old to go on a 750 bottle?

[A]

Yeah, but these same young and that may be true to a point, but these same young are not going in liquor stores and purchasing liquor. They just they not with doing.

[B]

They're not with liquor.

[A]

None of the social activities liquor.

[B]

But they're still socializing with with other like you said, they'll go smoke, they'll go vape together.

[A]

They'll go do they got the headphones on with the vape. They in college. The the girl that's going Uber herself over.

[E]

Exactly.

[B]

That's what we saying. They are this they just not drinking out.

[A]

They a like we was you know.

[D]

What and to it they responsible to what is was saying. I remember traveling to Atlanta for the first time and they being like like different lines and this line was vip and that was like my first experience with that and even going into like the VIP section because I remember D4L was out back then and we would end up partying with them which was so corny. But if. But it's like I remember thinking how that experience was like well that's not what it's cracked at to be like we did the whole thing and it was new to us. But then now that's just what it is. Like everybody has like the celebrity experience. They walking you to your table, they bringing the bottles out with the sparklers. It's like it ain't even a birthday day. What the are we celebrating?

[A]

He wasn't in VIP when D for Life came there, bro.

[D]

I was in VIP with D4L and 112. But they played out already.

[B]

No, I remember going to Cheetah a bottle gray goose was 150. That was cool. Now a bottle is 700 in New York. That's a lot of money. My for a 9 to 5. Are you talking about a 23 year old? A 43 year old might can't buy a $750 bottle.

[E]

But it ain't no spots other than the big New York clubs you could go to I'm asking.

[B]

Yeah, but the they. They low key like you being them white bars. You could get up and meet a baddie for $80.

[D]

I feel like the hood still got the bar experience. I feel like they still got popping bars in the hood in certain areas. But I do agree the club thing is. Is ruined. And I feel like me going out and dancing and partying, that was so fun. This is not the same. Standing on the couch with the people came with is not the same as being in the club. A new set of balls behind you. You bend down, you get the dancing. You know that's not because you would just be dancing and you don't know who behind you. You partying like that is over with. When I. When we party now we party with the in our section and we usually know who's in our section. That corny.

[B]

These changed it. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. These right here.

[A]

Change the phones.

[B]

Yeah, that change nah again even all that club you saying a can't go to the club and have a regular night because got their phone up. Not just that we got. We got. You got to do it for the.

[A]

Grand it cuz he privileged like he be in his people's section. Like he don't understand what it's like if you not in a section.

[E]

Gyop, you heard him right.

[B]

That's why you don't go to clubs.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Cuz you wasn't accustomed to getting a section.

[A]

I don't go cuz I'm afraid too. I know you got to throw that in there.

[B]

No, but you go to the. But you go to the hooded strip clubs in the world. You're not afraid.

[A]

And bust my gun too. What gun?

[B]

That's why you bring your L. Exactly.

[A]

And I don't do that no more. I changed. She. She won the fight.

[D]

I know you said bust your gun. I immediately went here.

[A]

That went right so well.

[B]

Yeah, he went so well he could wear swishy pants.

[A]

Any who. The Oscars, you guys. The Oscars. The Oscar noms. The Oscar n. Let me hit the round of applause for Sinners.

[C]

I'll start there.

[A]

Sinners who broke the Oscar record.

[E]

Did they?

[A]

With 16 nominations. The old record was 14. This is the most nominations ever to keep that applause going. Goddamn most nominations to ever occur. And for a horror film at that. So congratulations to Ryan Coogler, Michael B. Jordan. But it's not just. It's not just Sinners though. My man. Del.

[E]

Del, Del.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. His first Oscar nomination.

[E]

Keep his Applause going, yes. I hope he wins that.

[A]

His very first Oscar nomination. Teanna got one.

[D]

Got one what?

[B]

Delroy get nominated Best supporting actor, Sinners.

[A]

Stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. Sinners. Yeah, he did the damn thing. I was really happy that, you know, there's the saying that that goes around that says whatever the Golden Globes do, typically the Oscars do. Yeah. This year it felt like the Oscar is kind of saying and nah, y' all shut the up. What do y' all know? What do y' all know? It felt like the Oscar sat around tired of hearing about Wicked all year.

[C]

Like me, that Wicked was not. That should not be in these conversations, but.

[A]

But it has been all year.

[B]

It has.

[A]

So I was happy to see that. And I won't say happy because it's black greatness in that. In that movie too. But the Oscars just seemed like they had a very different approach, a different reverence, a different understanding for Sinners and what they did. Let me read off some of these. Let's see, we have best actor, Michael B. Jordan, Sinners. Best supporting actress, Tiana. One battle after another. Best supporting actor, Delroy Lindo, Sinners. Best supporting actress, Wunmi Moussaku, Sinners.

[B]

And Tiana.

[A]

Best director, best original screenplay, Ryan Coogler. Best costume design, Ruth E. Carter, who now has the most Oscar nominations for a black woman ever because she did costume design for Malcolm X. She did costume design for Amistad, both Black Panthers and now Sinners. Congratulations to her. Ruthie Carter, best original song, Raphael Sadiq. Raphael Sadiq for Sinners, I lied to you. Best production design, Hannah Beachler, Sinners. Best documentary feature, Nikon Quantu, the perfect Neighbor. Best makeup and hair styling, Shanika Terry, Sinners. Best documentary short film, Crystalline Hampton. The devil is busy. So a lot of black, whole lot of black at the Oscars. Really happy about that. Go Oscars. The Oscars is soon, right? Right.

[B]

It's in March this year. March.

[E]

Yeah, March.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

It's a while.

[A]

The Oscars are in March. The Grammys are next week.

[B]

Grammys are coming up. Fifteenth is the Oscars and the Grammys are win.

[C]

And Conan o' Brien's hosting Grammys next Grammys next week.

[A]

And and I want to say Trevor Noah is hosting the Grammys again for the sixth years in a row. Actor in a leading role nominees. Timothy Shalam, Marty Supreme, Leonardo DiCaprio, one battle after another. Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon, Michael B. Jordan for Centers and Wagner Mora for the Secret Agent.

[C]

I didn't see Blue Moon or Secret Agent. But I like Michael B. Jordan in this. I watched Marty supreme. It was a great movie. Timothy Chamberlay was great, but I feel like he kind of played the same role he did in the Bob Dylan, which biopic, which was also good. But I think Michael B. Jordan stepped out of himself for this in a different way.

[E]

It was the best roll ever.

[A]

And played three roles.

[C]

Yeah, that too.

[A]

He played three roles, man. Actor in supporting role Nomin Boncio Del Toro One battle after another. Jacob Elord, L D If I'm up your name, I apologize. That's for Frankenstein.

[C]

He was really good.

[A]

Frankenstein did really well this year as well. Delo centers Sean Pen One battle after another. Stellan Skars guard for Sentimental Value Actress in a supporting role Elle Fanning Sentimental Value. Inga is daughter Lilius. I'm sure I jacked that name up. Sentimental Value. I just go through the movies. Amy Madigan from Weapons one, Moo Mosaka for Sinners. Teyana Taylor. One battle after another. Directors we have for the movies Hamnet, Marty Supreme. One battle after another. Sentimental Value and Sinners. Listen, it's a whole lot of black shit.

[B]

What do we think?

[A]

Distinguished panel. How do we feel? What do we think? Congratulations to Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan. I could not be at happier for you guys.

[E]

I'm excited for nominations but as they say, as many a slip between the cup and the lip I need to see.

[C]

That was an issue.

[B]

That was definitely some issue.

[E]

My grandmom used to say it, she was a slave.

[B]

So it makes it many a slip between the cup and the lip. So between you lifting the cup up to drink, mad could go wrong. So you got all these nominations. We want to see some awards being given.

[A]

I get just trying to attract a younger demo, that's all. That's all we try to do.

[C]

That 80 year old plus demo.

[A]

Yeah, we got them down that 80 year old plus demo sleep right now. But I totally get it. Is this the big let down? Is this that thing that they do where they give you all all the nominations, get you all excited, get your viewership, get your audience, get you where they want you only to let you down.

[B]

Be considered a letdown?

[C]

Yeah, I think. Think yes and no.

[B]

Cuz that's what I'm saying. Like is it if they don't win.

[C]

Not winning 16, then you're gonna probably.

[A]

Be like you're gonna be let down not winning 16.

[C]

I think that they should and they can and should win a lot of them, especially anything relating to the aesthetics of the movie. Cinematography, cinematography, costume design, all that was absolutely amazing. I think Michael B. Jordan should win he A score. Anything from that level, they should win.

[A]

If Sinners wins, three score they have in a bag. Costume design. I think they have in the bag. I'm sorry, Mark. To answer your question, Ice, I want to say 9 out of 16, if I'm being realistic, at least 8 if they hit those.

[B]

But if they lose the best actor, best movie, best, like the major ones, are you still let down?

[A]

I'll be let down. But I think this is the beginning of Michael B. Jordan and Ryan Coogler's run.

[B]

I was about to say, Doug, I think that this is unfortunate, and I don't mean it in this way. I think that when you start talking about progress, small steps toward progress matter. So I think if they go in there and they win four or five fam. The fact that they got nominated for 16 speaks volumes. I'm not saying that. You know what I mean? We gotta go to the back of the bus. And now the middle of the bus is cool. I'm just saying that the acknowledgement means something. Cause we haven't been being acknowledged for a long time.

[E]

I just hope it's the right 4 or 5. I agree with you. I just hope it's the right four or five. Because if it is score, by the way, all these categories matter. I'm not disrespecting anybody's craft because I think making a great score or making costumes is incredibly important. Incredibly important. I'm just saying in terms of the prestige and where voters often put their weight, you know, if they don't win any of the actor awards, but they win all the other awards, I feel like that's gonna be a pat on the head. And that's gonna disappoint me. It's not gonna disappoint me. Cause I don't expect much. I think it'll be unfair. I'll be frustrated by it. I expect the Oscars to screw us over. So that's why I'm not gonna be disappointed. Disappointed.

[B]

That's kind of where I was at. Like, don't. Don't give us all these nominations, but we don't get movie. You need something out of there. We could soften the blow by giving some of the other black people in the other films awards. So you can't say we was on our racial shit because we gave this black person over here award. We gave this black person over here in the war. We gave this black person over here in the war. But Sinners only got four. You know what I mean? Like, you can't.

[E]

Yeah, exactly. And Sinners is a particular type of movie. So even if you give it to a different black movie or different black. It's something about this movie in terms of its messaging, its power. If it doesn't get it, oh, it's blacked out. Yeah. It's not just a movie with black people in it. It's a black movie.

[B]

See, that's what that part shocks me, like, because of all that messaging in the movie. Like, I mean, they killed Klansmen at the end of the movie.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Just for it to be. Not like, well, let's say some people living under a rock that has not heard of sinners. And, you know, you get your. Oh, well, what's the. You know how sometimes we'll see certain movies listed in the Golden Globes of Grand Prix. I'm check that out. Let me go look. Like, the fact that y' all putting the movie up that high, you open a lot of eyes to the movie anyway.

[C]

For sure.

[B]

So, yeah, maybe they.

[A]

Maybe they get it, right? I mean, and the people spoke. As far as Sinners went. That's a fact. In spite of what that Variety article said at the time. That is a fact. Like, the people got up and went out to theaters to support this. This movie. And it was one of the better movies I've seen all year.

[B]

Movie.

[A]

Yeah, it was. It's not just. It's not just something that's being driven off of hype and social media.

[B]

It was still a good movie. It was original. They delivered.

[A]

Raphael. Sadiq would have to win that music award. Like, there. Some of these awards that you, you, you. It'll be an indict indictment against you. If they don't win it, I think they know it.

[E]

They're comfortable with that shit. Oscars will be comfortable. They don't even be comfortable saying fuck off. Remember, Oscars are white.

[B]

Yeah. But I think this could be the aftermath of that. We don't want another one of those.

[E]

I hope so. But there's some institutions that respond to this. The academy oftentimes does not get involved. They will be like, y' all just didn't get it. Y' all just missed it.

[B]

Or, we haven't necessarily seen 50 movies. Like, it could be a score somewhere over there. That's amazing. We just don't know. Nothing about fucking Tommy takes like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we just don't know.

[A]

So then it wasn't that amazing cream rise to the top. Somebody would have said something.

[B]

Somebody would say, dunkin Donuts.

[A]

They check the music over there. Hey, check this out. For the music. While somebody that did this is really amazing and talented, I just think we would have heard something. Something. But we'll see.

[C]

We'll see.

[A]

I'll leave this up to the experts.

[D]

The black guy that wants something for the perfect neighborhood. What was that? Best Document Tour or something? That's what it was. That's a really good documentary. The Perfect Neighbor.

[A]

Is it what I need to see?

[B]

That's what I was shot with the cameras.

[D]

Right, right.

[C]

Oh, that was amazing.

[D]

From Body Cam. They don't use anything, but Body Cam is so good. It's about the white older lady that killed her neighbor. That was like a mom of three or four. She had been beefing with the neighbors and all the kids all year.

[A]

And.

[D]

Yeah, that's a real good documentary. I was waiting for.

[B]

Somebody came in here and talked about it.

[C]

I did. Yeah, that shit.

[B]

Amazing.

[D]

Yeah, it was really, really heartbreaking.

[C]

But amazing, right?

[D]

Exactly. It was a mix, but it was good.

[A]

If I can save anybody 9.99 or 1995 or whatever a movie ticket cost today, I did make an appointment at 10pm last night to go see a bad movie.

[C]

What was this? Anaconda?

[A]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And, boy, there are some really bad movies out there. It's bad right now, this primate shit about the evil monkey. No, I did not. No, I did. Did not. But that's one that I looked at.

[C]

Like, yo, I did, too.

[A]

Yeah. What are we doing, the evil monkeys back? No, no, I didn't. I didn't do that.

[B]

That's not been.

[A]

I went to see the new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy.

[C]

Why'd you do that?

[A]

There's a new Chris Pratt movie called Mercy that, when you watch the trailer, it looks like they were trying to do today's version of Minority Report. Minority Report is one of my favorite movies of all time.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So I did go to see it. I was bored. I had nothing else to do. And I wasn't some popcorn boy. This was one of the worst movies I ever saw. I walked right out of there in about 45 minutes.

[C]

I just looked at the COVID of it, and I'm like, I would not go.

[A]

Well, the movie. What the movie's about, Chris Pratt, is there's a new program called Mercy that the people voted to have.

[B]

Oh, I know what you're talking about.

[A]

And that is the new law system. So they sit you in a chair, you're guilty until you're found proven innocent. They allow you or you to hook up to the icloud system where everybody's phone is on this IC cloud and you have to defend your case.

[B]

15 minutes or 20 minutes? 90 minutes.

[A]

90 minutes. So Chris Pratt sits in a chair for 90 minutes going through his girl's eye cloud, trying to figure out, trying to convince the judge why he's in.

[C]

This sounds like some.

[A]

The concept if they'd have really tried to make a movie out of it sounded like it could have went somewhere. The execution of looked cheap. It looked cgi. It looked very poorly written and done. It was just. I lasted 40 minutes, 45 minutes before I walked out. And that's cause I took a nap.

[C]

But you should have said Marty Supreme. That's good.

[B]

But the movie was an hour.

[A]

You want to see Marty hours?

[B]

I mean the movie's an hour and 40, so you left an hour on the table. That might cause. Conceptually, I know what he's talking about. Like you got access to every camera he sold, right? No, conceptually I was sold. That was. It looked crazy. It looked like Minority Report 2.0. That's what it looked like.

[C]

24 rating.

[A]

It's really, really bad.

[C]

Rotten Tomatoes.

[A]

I know that the people out there don't really trust my movie recommendations or non recommendations, but it was really, really bad.

[C]

Rotten tomato says 24 out of 100.

[A]

So no, they got creamed on, on all of the movie apps.

[C]

It sound like some.

[A]

What else? What else needs our attention? Come on, let's get to it. Let's get to it.

[E]

Can we talk about Drake just for a hot second? Drake was, you know, in the news a couple months ago for the UMG decision.

[A]

Uh huh.

[E]

Uh, it was dismissed out of hand by the judge. Uh, he's filed an appeal, a very long appeal. I think 50 or 60 pages long. And I actually think he's onto something. He's gonna lose again, but I think he's onto something. I don't think Drake is wrong here. Basically what Drake said is the court or his lawyer said that the court dismissed the suit out of hand as non actionable by virtue of being song lyrics. In other words, the court said you can't sue somebody for defamation because their song lyrics. Drake's team is saying that is a dangerous precedent. You're saying, you're setting to say that something by definition, just as such, cannot be used because it's a song lyric. He's saying there are times where that could be the case and the court has a responsibility to look at the case. Cause otherwise nobody could ever sue for defamation because of a song lyric.

[B]

That's a good point.

[E]

And I think Drake's team is right. I don't think that this particular lawsuit is defamation. I don't. That's up for debate by people. But I don't. But I do think that there are situations where somebody could make a song that would be defamation. And I think that the court should look at it. So I think Drake may. He could have some success at least getting to trial, even if he ultimately loses.

[B]

And it's a slippery slope because if you can't sue somebody for a song lyric, then what separates that from them jumping on the Internet and trashing you on the Internet? Internet or any other type of publication? It's going to set a precedent there.

[A]

Well, that precedent is not the same as the song lyric precedent, which is not the same for media people using the Internet precedent. That's why all these things are.

[B]

But media gets a pass, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Media gets a pass.

[D]

Media. I think that is stupid as fuck. And then that whole set of president things like precedent thing, it's like, now everybody going to want to, you know what I mean, sue about us all. It's just whack. I'm a rap lover, hip hop lover. That's fucking corny. Even if he has grounds for why he wanted to sue in this situation, the whole response from the legal team just opens up for everybody else to do it too. That shit's whack.

[A]

Well, everybody can't. Everybody can't.

[D]

But how are we going to. How are we gonna have good battles if you can sue at the end?

[E]

See, I agree with you. Like most of the time, I think you should be able to talk shit, be hyperbolic. All that in rap lyrics. You should be able to do all of that.

[D]

Right?

[E]

Like, I never thought not, you know, when I was like, you know, talking about Jay Z ether, I didn't believe what he was saying in there. It wasn't defamation.

[D]

Even skeeted in your baby seat part.

[E]

Oh, that was super ugly. That's a good example.

[B]

Right? I threw condoms on your baby seat.

[E]

Yeah. Skeeted in your Jeep. Threw condoms on your baby seat. Right.

[D]

Excuse me.

[E]

I don't know who did what. I don't know who. Baby seat got skeeted on. I don't think there should be a lawsuit about it.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Cause it's a battle. But I think there could be circumstances where it does go too far. Very narrow, limited circumstances. And I just Want to create room for that. I think about, like, for example, like, when people do monologues at the end of rap songs. I think about what Tupac did at the end of Hit him up, for example, when he's just talking.

[B]

Right.

[E]

What if you was A gay On January 7, 1992, you broke in my house and shot my whole family and blah, blah, blah. If people could legitimately believe that what you're saying is true.

[B]

So let me.

[E]

I could see a situation, one that comes to mind.

[B]

Talking at the end is 50 talking to Ja, where he says, I know the stylist she was fucking. I paid him 50.

[A]

Boom. Right.

[B]

So you're saying that could be defamation?

[E]

I'm saying I could see a situation where a person could be persuaded to believe that that's not just music. Yeah, exactly. Like, again, I'm not saying that it should be used often. I just don't like the idea of saying anything. That's when a song goes without any. Without any limitations. That scares me a little bit.

[A]

This case. This case, for reason, reasons outside of what Drake is stating is unprecedented. Because I don't think in any other hip hop beef can a rapper claim as much damage as Drake can claim from this one. That's a great point. Ja Rule would be. Ja Rule closest, but.

[B]

And it still fails in comparison.

[A]

Objectively, I think it fails.

[B]

It fails in comparison.

[A]

Two, if you don't think it pales in comparison, that can be attributed to many other things. It could be attributed to the court case that they were fighting, the feds running up in there, Def Jam pulling support. You can't just say all of these laws are specifically tied to what 50 Cent is doing. Drake probably can.

[B]

Drake shit, I think is more quantifiable.

[A]

He had a lot of his business and public perception and view of things, and his prices. A lot probably changed after that.

[B]

I agree.

[E]

Battle, there's another piece to this that just hit me as you just made that point. Rap battles today are very different than rap battles during, like, the bridge wars or something, where you just made music.

[B]

You ain't have brand deals, you ain't have shit. That was riding.

[E]

Yes, that's true, but I'm talking about in terms of how people communicate. 50's been in battles where he didn't put a song on wax. What if I defame you on a podcast and on an Instagram? I make up all these lies which do fit the standard for defamation, and then I make a song about it now and the song gets heard by 50 million people? You get what I'm saying? So, for example, hypothetically, this did not happen. To be clear, if Kendrick had done a press release and given a press conference and tweeted that Drake was a pedophile and then made Not Like Us, Not Like Us still would have been a huge song that would have impacted him severely. And because the rap battles don't stay just on the musical realm, they often go into. Into blogs, you know, you go, you know, tweets, tick tock. I think it gets messier and more confusing in today.

[A]

I'm not saying that Drake doesn't have a point in what he's doing. Yeah, like, I'm not saying that. I was never saying that. I'm saying a few things. One, when you enter a battle that is kind of, kind of. Well, I'm talking about how specific received. It's kind of an enter at your own risk type of thing. Like, before that battle started, I came on the air, I said, potentially, one of these people will never be looked at the same after this. Definitely said that.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, it sounded like a lot. But you said it. I mean, I had a healthy amount of respect for the brothers involved, so. And sure enough, one person was never looked at the same. But you taunted him and you provoked him and you asked him to come out. This brother that we normally know to be so quiet. So some of that is enter at your own risk for me. Two, everybody can't sue. Everybody ain't going to sue. Back to Mona's point, suing is like a privileged type of thing. And when you lose and continue to use the judicial system to try to hammer home a point, it does come off away. Yes. Like, my only point is for how he comes off, not in what he's doing, doing. I'm. I can't even say I wouldn't do the same thing if I had all the money in the world. And you would. Time in the world, you wouldn't.

[E]

But I get what you said.

[B]

I don't think he can.

[A]

Because I'm gonna rely on my rap.

[E]

If that's what I'm saying.

[A]

If I enter the battle and we on some rap and you got the upper hand, and I'm on some rap now, just take my loss, I'll take my ball and go home.

[B]

I think. I think he fighting a different fight. Me personally, I think he just fighting. I think he. This is past rap. I really, really, honestly think he just won out his universal deal. That's what I really, really think. And I think that he is just using this As a catalyst to get that accomplished. I think that because again, he ain't suing Kendrick, he's suing Universal. And I just think he don't want nothing to do with them. I think that his level of success and money and access has shown him something that most people don't even get to see. Like you saying you soon is a privileged game. If you got enough money and your family got enough money to sue a. You could make some change. When the cops whip somebody ass. And no Newark, they don't have no money to sue you whip some black person ass in Livingston or Shore Hills, they parents gonna sue you. It's gonna get all the media attention in the world. And now you can make some changes.

[A]

The only thing about what you're saying is. And again, I'm on optics. If he won against umg, I would put all my poker chips to the table that he would sue Kendrick next.

[C]

I also would be worried about this.

[B]

And I would judge that. I don't think he would, but I would judge that. And I think. I think.

[A]

But why would you judge it? Because for all of those things.

[B]

Because, nigga, it's like suing somebody that. That you told come outside and get a fair one, and now you'll sue them for assault. That's some sucker shit.

[E]

What if you ask them up for a fair when they pull out a gun and shoot you? Cause that's Drake's argument, is that you went beyond the rules of the battle.

[A]

But it's not his argument.

[B]

No, no, no. And one of the dismissals before had highlighted what he said in Taylor Made, where he said, talk about him like in Young Girls, I got it on, you know, it gotta be true. Like, you said this. You put that out there for him to say.

[C]

Say also he defamed Kendrick by accusing him of domestic violence too.

[B]

But that's different.

[C]

I. I would be more worried about this case. Back to your precedent thing in the. In the lyrics in court situation. Because if. Now there's facts in raps that might be across the board now everything is a fact in rap pursuable or actionable.

[D]

I don't like indicted if that's the.

[B]

That's what my brain went at first.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That the people could pick. Can choose when they want to allow lyrics to be admissible.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And the damage. Because when these little niggas is running around talking about shooting people, the white people or the court want to now allow those lyrics to be evidence in court.

[E]

I gotta say, though.

[B]

Well, when is criminal, though, the dumber they are. But now when Drake has a lot.

[E]

Less sympathetic to the rapper, that says, and then I killed him on July 7th at noon on 52nd Street. And then turns out that's where the body was. I mean, I don't think it should be used.

[C]

I'm with you there. But then what if you also get Drake talking gangsta in his raps and they're like, well, maybe that's real too.

[A]

That was my very next point. Which is the other reason why Optic I don't love none of the Drake lawsuit shit is because he get on them records and start spilling. Like, when he not playing the legal game, he get on them records and say, we're sliding you. Yo, I just had. Didn't they just shoot your house up? Shut the fuck up, bitch ass nigga. Yo, I buy tickets to your show, get you killed. Killed. Yo, his mob ties over here like he. And that's the thing it gets into. It gets into the whole historical thing of the Oreo kid that can bounce back and forth like. And. And I think that's the part that hurts him the most in this is that's what Not Like Us was about.

[D]

Exactly.

[E]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

So your behavior as it continues, even as we done forgot about it, you'd find, listen to people. You went and laid low like you. You chilling niggas just want Iceman. Just want Iceman. And you should probably change the name of that with all the going on, but that's what niggas want. Anything else is a deterrent from. From that. But he got the money and the time. So please, by all means, have at it.

[E]

That's what I'm trying to separate, just in my last point, to. To separate my hip hop feelings from my other feelings as a hip hop head and just as somebody who cares about all. I don't ever want art to be criminalized or used or I don't ever want to restrict the possibilities of what an artist could do. I just thought there's just a small part of me that could see shit getting crazier and crazier in the 21st century with how we mix fact and we do it with news. We do everything. It's hard to know what's real and what's not. And I could see somebody's life, not Drake, but somebody's life really be destroyed for some shit. And then using music as a cover for it or as a cover for it, and it just scares you. I'm not saying this is the solution, but I'm very scared of that.

[C]

That's all. I can dig it. But it's a very, very slippery slope.

[E]

It is super slippery. You're right.

[A]

Does anyone here think that he'll win the appeal?

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

I think he might.

[B]

I think he'll get to a point where they just go part ways, and I think that's his overall objective.

[E]

But to be clear, winning the appeal means it not being dismissed. I think they may. Cause they dismissed it without even going to trial. I think he'll win that battle.

[A]

Battle.

[E]

Because of the argument and then lose and then losing the next step. Yeah, that's my. That's my suspicion.

[A]

I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I'm not mad at that.

[B]

All right.

[A]

What else? What else? What else needs our attention?

[B]

Well, we talked about the Oscars coming up. We got the Grammys coming. They announced the performers, so some of them.

[A]

Some of them. Who we got. Who's performing?

[B]

We got clips and Pharrell performing.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

No surprise.

[B]

No surprise.

[C]

We got Leon Thomas.

[B]

It's gonna be Olivia Dean.

[C]

I'm a huge fan.

[A]

In. I'm in, my brother. Yeah, man. That Olivia Dean. Finally. Hey, Can I believe we haven't.

[B]

No. She's a star, bro.

[A]

Did we talk about that? Me and Mark?

[E]

I actually made it my sleep, river, when y' all clowned me and then eventually sleeping.

[A]

That's the thing. That wasn't a sleeper type of thing. It wasn't a sleeper type of thing. I'm so glad that park said, yo, buy this.

[E]

Oh, that's.

[A]

I bought it and put it on.

[B]

No, she's a star.

[C]

She's amazing.

[B]

She's a star.

[C]

And her first album dope, too.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

I was like, I don't know. Yeah.

[B]

Like, she's.

[A]

She this album now. Incredible.

[B]

She up there.

[E]

Fire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I need to get into, like, the credits and who participated, who wrote, who produced? Like this.

[E]

She's like, some, like, writing in.

[A]

That is groovy.

[C]

Amazing. That is fun and amazing.

[A]

Vibrant.

[C]

I think I voted for her for best new artist. Hope she wins.

[A]

She. Her album being so good is up. My Grammy predictions.

[B]

Yo, fam. Yeah, I know. From out of state. She. They did the garden and was calling me like, yo, could. Could you pull some strings to get tickets? I'm like, that ain't my bag.

[A]

Like, I know. Tell them get money. Yo, stop calling you for everything.

[E]

I'm not letting you do it today.

[D]

That's good.

[A]

I'm good. Why broke calling you, man? Like, yo, nah, let me stop.

[B]

She was selling out everywhere.

[A]

That Olivia Dean. Album is incredible.

[C]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Hey. And it answered some of my question as to why some of my favorite R and B bitches wasn't coming out. Oh, yeah.

[E]

She backed some people down.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, that answered it. Yeah, that answered it. I'm like, oh, yes.

[B]

I would do the same.

[A]

Wait for this little speeding hot, piping hot train to slow down. Cause this girl is young. Young. Yeah. When she first came out. This girl is young, hot.

[C]

She's 26. Her first album was two. 20, 23.

[A]

So, yeah, you gotta watch when these young come out and you could tell that they have fresh ideas.

[B]

I mean, not even like.

[E]

It's just.

[C]

She's really. I don't necessarily look at it as, like, revolutionary new music. It's just really good.

[A]

It's refreshing.

[E]

The songwriting is great.

[C]

The songwriting is great.

[E]

Production is great. It's is great.

[C]

That little British accent helps a little bit, too.

[E]

Oh, it does something for me always. Musically.

[B]

Yeah. Music.

[C]

She's also a beautiful, beautiful girl.

[E]

I. I can't see it. I don't see beauty.

[A]

Yeah. But she remind me of when one of them dropped one of them. Nora Jones, Avril, or what's that other little.

[C]

It's more Snowish to me than.

[E]

It's more Snow Leger.

[A]

But I was never going to say that. Oh, I was never going to say what y' all just said. Oh, y' all said that.

[C]

I said it. Yeah.

[A]

That's a whole talk about. No, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, I salute Snow. I think Snow is doing the right thing. Right? Yeah.

[C]

Snow's amazing, too.

[E]

She's amazing. The Nora Jones comparison I would make and May earlier was just in terms of. I think she's going to catch, you know, Nora Jones's first Grammys. She just bodied everything. Don't know why I won everything. That whole album, which is a perfect album.

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[E]

Won everything. I think she's going to have that kind of success.

[A]

Is she performing at the Grammys? Yes. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, she's in the. She's in the. She's in the.

[A]

She's doing the background work, too.

[B]

Look, she's doing the best new artist segment. You know, they do the medley of all artists.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So it's Addison Rae, Alex Warren, Cat's Eye, Leon Thomas, Lola Young, Olivia Dean, Somber, and the Marias.

[C]

Yeah. They can fall.

[A]

That's my.

[E]

That's.

[A]

That's. That's my favorite segment out of all the awards shows. Yeah.

[C]

The last couple years has been in recent years.

[B]

So what's the Girl that killed last year or two years ago.

[A]

I need more than that.

[B]

The new chick, taboo.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

The one you kept making jokes about. Oh, I know you talking about the one that had the earring in her. You know, it was a white girl that killed.

[A]

Oh, Billy island.

[B]

She going to do that.

[A]

Chaperone didn't clean up.

[C]

Yeah, she did.

[A]

I don't remember cleaning up.

[C]

Yeah, she cleaned up. There was a couple years and you.

[B]

Came in here cracking jokes. You came in here cracking jokes. Cuz we ain't know who she was.

[A]

But she bodied.

[B]

The speech is when she bodied and she killed.

[A]

But when she bodied, the speech is not when she cleaned up.

[C]

Year, I think.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I think she won best new artist that year, if I recall correctly.

[E]

She got best new artist.

[A]

Okay, then I'm mistaken.

[C]

Yeah, it's Olivia's year.

[A]

Olivia performing?

[B]

Yeah, that was last year.

[A]

Leon performing and clips. Performing means I should leave the grammys happy and all the people that I think should win will win something.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I think so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I hope.

[A]

And I'm excited to see Trevor Noah.

[B]

I'm excited to just see and like you just said, artists, they're getting their black viewership back. Like when you start highlighting the clips are going to perform with pharrell. When you start highlighting Leon Thomas, it's going to now bring some of the diversity back to. To the viewership, in my opinion. You know, blacks come kind of boycotting them unless it's us. You got to watch it for work. But a lot of people don't be with the grammys like that.

[A]

No, they've been doing pretty good in recent years. One better.

[C]

They got a lot better than ever.

[A]

Since that whole weekend versus the grammys thing, it seems like they.

[C]

They've picked it up and they fired everybody.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. When?

[C]

Dude, it's like, yo, we got to step your game up. That was crazy.

[A]

And I ain't going to hold you. It is back to the young. Not no more. What a good time to be single. If you're just thinking about it, right? You got football all weekend. These hoes next weekend you get to be announced watching the grammys weekend after that, you get whatever you get allstar week. February, like outside of Valentine's day. Good time to be by yourself. You and your dick beater.

[C]

Valentine's day might not be the worst day to be single. Save a lot of money, actually.

[A]

That's a real good time. Real good time to be single. Have you all started working on your valentine's day gifts? Let me tell Mine now, if you listen. Nada. Sporty. Sporty.

[C]

Started working on.

[A]

Working on it. Sporty thieves. Hey, let me queue it up. The fish don't believe me.

[B]

Let me queue it up your mouth. Say one thing.

[A]

Word.

[B]

We'll watch. We'll watch her story.

[D]

Instagram.

[B]

We'll see it on her gram. Big Dog.

[D]

Yeah, we hear you.

[E]

I'm excited to see you be talking all heavy and then you look on. Yeah, I know.

[A]

Yeah. You know, every Sporty Thief song is about the same thing.

[B]

They got more than one song.

[E]

Wow.

[B]

I'm playing Street Cinema. I got albums.

[A]

They have this and they have nada. And they do have another song.

[D]

40Th.

[B]

I'm like, not even a dollar you.

[A]

Ain'T getting from us. From us. You don't know that.

[B]

Always.

[A]

Yeah, that's us.

[E]

That was a hit, y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

It was a hit.

[A]

Yeah. That sucks.

[D]

Went triple platinum in the Tri State.

[B]

No, that was. That was my.

[E]

That went dominant.

[D]

You Jersey was bopping to it, too.

[A]

Yo, congratulations, Joel. Embiid is looking amazing. The Sixers look amazing. I know me and you might have had a bet at the start of the season.

[E]

We didn't this time.

[A]

I was talking a lot of. But I told you, we going to.

[E]

Be fine if we help.

[A]

But. But you guys, thank you. You got to feel good about where you stand as a basketball team in the city. I also wanted to ask you two guys, what do y' all think about the slavery exhibits that are being removed from Philadelphia's Independence National Historic Park? I wanted to ask the two Black Panthers on the show, like, what's going.

[D]

On in Philadelphia, being that Philadelphia don't take no. We're suing.

[A]

Like, I thought Philly was like, a pro black type of like, look, this is Donald Trump.

[D]

This is his direct orders. Donald Trump. Whole thing is like, we gonna, you know, erase everything that happened, and we not gonna focus on the past. But they came to Philadelphia with that bullshit.

[E]

We gonna sue ice. Our sheriff stood toe to toe with ice. We suing the government for these statues and these removals. That's what we do. We resist, man.

[D]

Yeah. We ain't one of them. We ain't no Not Ass City. You can't just come to Philly doing what the fuck you want.

[E]

Yeah. Nah, you can't do that.

[A]

All right. And there's our Philly Report question.

[D]

That's it.

[E]

Circling back to this Valentine's thing. Cuz I got tickets to New Edition the night before. Isn't that enough?

[B]

No.

[E]

New Edition. Boys to men.

[C]

It Might be.

[D]

Y' all was so gassed about that concert.

[A]

Park's got to not be in these talks, cuz he playing from a different game.

[E]

I'm trying to play Park's game.

[C]

I think if you combine it with some romantic things.

[A]

Let me, let me help you out. Nobody in this room can play that Parks game at all. And I'm not talking about the white game. No, at all. The other game.

[B]

Game.

[C]

I think. I think Ice could play that game.

[A]

Oh, you don't know? I don't know. Ice can't play that game.

[B]

I can't play that game.

[C]

I think is could play the game.

[A]

Parks's wife pays half the rent. She doesn't pay half the rent or she pays rent. She pays half of bills or she contributes money.

[E]

Significant portion.

[A]

No, it's his business to tell. I, I keep it on a low.

[E]

3 million tops.

[A]

His. His wife, like, she don't know what he makes.

[B]

What?

[A]

Like he got a really good situation going on over there.

[E]

Look at him.

[A]

Look at him.

[E]

Look.

[B]

That's crazy.

[C]

I think Ish could play the same game. I think he does play the same game.

[A]

He can't and doesn't. He can and he don't. Yeah, tie your little shoes up.

[C]

He don't believe in Valentine's Day. He plays even hard. Harder ball than I do.

[A]

On air. Ice and ish pay for a lot more than they bring to the air.

[B]

Who said that?

[A]

And the streets be telling.

[B]

Other wise.

[A]

The streets. The streets be telling.

[D]

I never said you could smell it on ice.

[E]

No.

[A]

So tell park since he thinks he's not with it. What?

[E]

Remember Christmas?

[B]

I pay my mortgage.

[C]

But what are you doing for Valentine's Day?

[B]

Nothing.

[C]

See.

[A]

I ain't doing nothing either.

[D]

I'm so. That's a liar.

[E]

You're a liar.

[C]

You're a liar.

[D]

I'm so confused what's going on? So you're not doing that for Valentine's Day because she don't want nothing or that's something. Y' all agree?

[B]

We just don't do it. Like when I first met my girl. Yeah. I don't do Valentine's Day. Don't do Halloween.

[C]

Christmas mono on Christmas.

[E]

You want a gift? You want these bills paid? Not do Christmas didn't wasn't bills get paid this year. Wa said you want light or you want gift?

[B]

That's not why.

[A]

So what you like on Christmas?

[D]

You paid the bill. She pass.

[E]

Heat is a gift.

[B]

Don't listen to him, yo. That's what don't. That's not.

[A]

Credit Card.

[B]

Just take your bill, your. Your. I asked my girl. My girl wanted a Cartier watch. So I asked my girl like, yo, do you want the watch or do you want me to pay off your credit cards? And then she said, credit cards. I would have bought the watch if she said she wanted to watch. I would have said both.

[A]

She wanted both.

[D]

Crazy.

[A]

It was both.

[B]

It was both.

[D]

Would have been unlimited. Sucks for the rest of the month.

[E]

You want a card?

[D]

Here.

[E]

You want a car?

[B]

You gotta pay for yo.

[D]

Anyway, people in relationships don't get they dick suck. Stop.

[C]

Huh?

[D]

Not by the person in a relationship with.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

Right? So back to what I was saying.

[A]

When I first met.

[E]

That was definitely one of.

[A]

No, dog.

[B]

I. I pay enough. I pay a lot, bro.

[A]

Valentine's Day. You getting your valentine a card? No, me from Tiffany.

[B]

He's Tiffany. Got a new Valentine's Day.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

I promise you there will be no Valentine's Day. Get from me.

[D]

I love to watch men spoil their women on holidays. That's.

[A]

So I'm tapped still. I'm waiting for March like a.

[D]

And then you have her birthday.

[A]

My money is gone.

[D]

Back to back.

[E]

Mine too.

[A]

Birthday, Christmas, all these kids birthdays. I'm tapped. I'm done. I don't have it. I'm. I'm. I'm. You. Me.

[B]

No.

[A]

Hell no. Building the house. Get the out my face. Go sit down somewhere.

[E]

So Parks.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

New addition. And then I just. Dinner. Like dinner.

[C]

You gotta do a little something, bro.

[E]

I mean, in front row. Does that matter?

[B]

First off, it should always.

[D]

Beyonce, please.

[E]

I think she.

[B]

I tell her like that don't mean nothing. I ain't gave Ricky Bell some money so he can come down here.

[D]

Front row.

[B]

Yeah, that's the norm.

[C]

Yeah, it's regular.

[E]

Just got you See, that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem.

[B]

That's the game, bro.

[A]

All right. Game is the game. So let me see what day Valentine's Day fall on.

[C]

It's like a Saturday.

[E]

It's a Saturday.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[E]

No Saturday, cuz the show was a Friday night. That's why I was like, oh, that is a Friday.

[D]

Oh, It's Friday at 13.

[A]

These chicks think something lit about.

[E]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. Dog lit.

[A]

You doing something, she leaving with something. I better take my nap on Friday.

[E]

Leaving with something.

[B]

I better take my nap on Friday.

[A]

What is that? I give you that good holiday dick. Oh, okay. You getting some holiday dick. And I don't think there's nothing wrong.

[D]

With saying holiday D Cuz girls definitely try to give up for the holiday.

[B]

You got to get a new. You got to get a new fresh batch.

[C]

Fresh batch.

[D]

Bald.

[A]

Fresh bald. Yeah, I need some now. Cory keep coming to my door, talking about some Y.

[B]

Fresh ones.

[A]

Cory. Until three of my good friends sex pills.

[B]

It's crazy.

[E]

And you don't know how to tell.

[A]

Your man when you running low or some and you need it. He like, I need another like, damn.

[E]

Me too.

[A]

Godamn.

[B]

You take a whole sex pill, huh?

[A]

Yo, you.

[B]

You is crazy.

[A]

I did angel dust. I have a high time. I have a very high time.

[B]

We not trying to get high.

[A]

We trying to get hard.

[D]

But I'm just saying.

[A]

This crazy.

[B]

What a. Again. You ain't getting high. You getting hard.

[A]

Y.

[D]

It's not the point.

[B]

Yo, your bloodstream ain't your.

[D]

It went over your head.

[A]

Do you guys want to talk about the canceling of Vince Staples's show?

[D]

That sucked.

[B]

Yeah, that did suck. We ap. We apologize, Vince.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, well, we apologize. We ain't cancel it.

[C]

I watched it too.

[B]

Because what happens is we should have came in and made a big to do about it. We should have definitely made it our priority in our business to watch it, support it, and come in and talk about it.

[E]

I unfortunately never saw it. Yeah, me and I heard great things about it.

[A]

You didn't see the first season.

[E]

I saw the first season and I heard it was amazing. I just.

[A]

First season was really good.

[C]

Second season was still very good. I blame Netflix in terms of marketing and advertising. There was almost none. I think Vince was even going around saying, if I don't tweet this, no one's going to watch it because they don't know it exists.

[B]

And that's my point. So to us, I'm talking about that's our job to pick the slack. That's our job. If we know he not getting a proper marketing and that's our homeboy, we should have marketed his show more.

[E]

I used to put it on Netflix, but I get what you're saying. It's our birth. We should help. But yeah, Netflix should do it.

[A]

I thought we were really excited about it and talked about it as soon as we learned it was coming.

[B]

Yeah, he got picked, but that was last we talked about. Once we knew they re upped them for season two, we went crazy. Season two came out and we didn't.

[A]

Netflix should have had Vince go to where his audience is. And they didn't. They didn't. I'm not. I'm not owning that I was on the phone with Vince while he was in New York trying desperately to get to this show because niggas and his schedule was jam packed with the other shit. So I mean, I mean he went where it was a priority for him to go and they got those results. It also seemed like in speaking to him that he was aware a little bit like he was aware that I'm going. He may have been against some things. Fighting silent battles behind the scenes. And now when it's promo time, you sending me to Good Day New York and fucking. I think that Z Way interview, if.

[C]

It wasn't for that was amazing.

[A]

The Z Way interview interview took off, was excellent. If it wasn't for that he went to a bunch of whitewash.

[C]

I don't think I saw him anywhere else, honestly.

[A]

And that's that. This is a friend of the show. He's actually family of the show at this point. I support everything that he does. I don't think this will be his last shot. He's extremely talented.

[D]

So talented.

[A]

Extremely talented.

[C]

I'm pretty sure someone else will pick up the show.

[D]

That's what I was thinking. Somebody else pick it up, cuz. It's good. It's not like it's corny. It's just wasn't handled properly.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, take it to fx, take it to Max. Just take it, take it somewhere else. Or write a new show. Or write a new show. I don't think this is the last that we've seen of Vince Staples on a big or small screen.

[C]

Yeah, Vince is brilliant.

[A]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's one of my sucks though, Vince. One of my young mentors, man. He mentors me.

[B]

That's dope.

[A]

That's my guy. Absolutely, absolutely love him. Really?

[B]

Wait, he's your what, he's your mentor?

[A]

No.

[B]

What is he to you? What you called it?

[A]

He's my mentor.

[D]

His mentor is disabled.

[A]

My mentor. Okay. Yeah, he mentors me on some things. I left the game in 06. Yeah, I mean, I need the young to tell me what's going on out there, you know, I mean, I did.

[D]

My first show in Jersey and I came out to pump, pump, pump it up.

[C]

Did you pump it up?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I was supposed to come because Mark was supposed to invite me.

[D]

You didn't show up. It's the second one.

[A]

Mark never called and never invited me.

[D]

Joe, it's cool.

[C]

How'd it go?

[D]

It was great. And I was gonna say, cuz, is that in your area? New Brunswick? Are y' all like from the area.

[B]

They are we not from.

[A]

They are. No, we're.

[B]

No, we're not.

[A]

They are. Them too. These two ass.

[D]

Can you please tell me what's up? When we run through, like, what kind.

[A]

Of area they gotta tell? College town.

[B]

It's a college town.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Ruckers dominance.

[A]

That's where like the soft be at.

[B]

These two Ruckus dominates.

[D]

I feel like it was like.

[B]

And they got mad projects and you won't go down there talking that.

[A]

Not a one.

[B]

They run you out of there just like they ran you out of Jersey City.

[A]

I won't go there for a day.

[B]

We made.

[D]

The people of New Brunswick were cool as. I want y' all to know that. They were. And they were nicely dressed.

[A]

And they treated me good when I was at Ruckers too. Let me stop talking. They did when I went to Ruckus. Hell yeah. I was excited to have me any.

[E]

What else?

[A]

What else, what else, what else? What else? What else is important? Vince, I love you, man.

[B]

Yeah, we love you, Vince.

[C]

Bounce right back. Ain't no thing.

[A]

Ella has a new project dropping. I pre ordered it because Stan, of.

[C]

Course, same executive producer beef.

[A]

And actually, before we even get to that. Come on. Because I meant. I meant to play this the other beef. Let's see.

[C]

I'm joking.

[A]

It's not really Bong 1.

[E]

He likes it here.

[A]

Here we go. Here we go. Come on. Let me do El. Let me do Ella, right? Man ain't gonna act like shame and dropping no heat around here. That's still Ella. Let's not get it up around here. No, heavy, baby.

[D]

I got it. You ain't always gotta be on.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[D]

No.

[A]

You got a brand new element. His record is called 100 and as fire as it is. That is not why they brought the topic up. So who's executive producing LMA's new project?

[C]

Mustard, of course. Also Jason Tatum. You get to see who's a better executive producer.

[A]

LeBron.

[B]

We're building an empire here.

[C]

Or Jason Taylor Tatum.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Jason, I need your shoe sizes. Yo, bro, I need your shoe sizes.

[E]

He tells the area.

[A]

Jason Tatum asked me, but I gotta get it to him.

[C]

Yeah, 20, 23.

[A]

I gotta get it to him. But anyway, all right, so.

[B]

Hey, yo, JT. A 10 my. That's all you got? He watches.

[A]

See you that type of word for what? Hey, yo, jt, your man, you know, give me your size.

[B]

The said give me your size.

[E]

That ain't for you to.

[A]

Yo, jjt. Don't say yo, JT again.

[B]

Hey, he was at the finals game up there.

[A]

That's why I don't introduce him to none of my people like that.

[B]

I don't introduce you to none of my peoples for other reasons.

[A]

I know Mandy. I know.

[E]

Danny.

[A]

I know your people already. I know your little people. I know. Funny. Oh, I know. It's the cool gang.

[B]

You corny.

[A]

How do we feel? I know y' all want to make some jokes about this. I can't because Jason Tatum is my man.

[B]

I think it's fire.

[A]

Jason Tatum is one of my better Internet friends.

[B]

I think it's fire.

[D]

What's the Internet friend?

[A]

Not a real friend.

[C]

People that you're just a par.

[A]

Social people that. Yeah. Like people that you root for that you pretty fly with digitally.

[D]

Oh, I have a lot of those.

[C]

Exchange little LOLs in the DM.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

He's.

[A]

He's a bros. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good digital bros. Good digital friend of mine.

[D]

Little hate speech in the dm.

[A]

So I try to hold it down for him and. And they pretty private with their relationship. And because they put so much effort toward that. I don't come on air talking about them two like that. And that's probably a large reason why Jason Tatum won't come sit down over here. Cuz he don't trust us to not bring up like that.

[B]

I think it's fire.

[E]

Why?

[A]

Cuz he a cupcake ass.

[B]

That's why. You the icing.

[A]

That's why.

[B]

Wait a minute.

[E]

The icing.

[A]

That's what you said the icing to your cupcake. Oh. Ish.

[E]

You just caught that. You might want to take that back.

[A]

I love you too.

[B]

Is you. I think. I think that nigga you the icing.

[A]

That is not a cupcake. You don't want to be the cupcake.

[B]

Ella May is Ella May. Right.

[A]

She.

[B]

She's one of them. And I think that if they had an opportunity where he could necessarily fund her project or some shit, you could kind of bypass a bunch of the bullshit.

[C]

That's.

[A]

Maybe that is.

[B]

You get what I'm saying?

[C]

You don't think it's a creative input. You think it's strictly financial?

[B]

It could be.

[A]

You don't think Jayson Tatum know slaps?

[B]

Yeah, I do. But again, if I could finance my shorty's project, she don't need the label as much. She don't have to have as much label support. And we could do it that way. It's worth a shot. That would make you a EP.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

So that's part of the conversation.

[A]

I'm an EP.

[D]

That's all an EP is.

[A]

I'm an EP. I got a $500 million contract, and you my girl. Girl.

[D]

I thought the EP was the person that funds things.

[C]

So it depends. In music, it's also. Sometimes a creative EP means anything.

[E]

It's like the most vague term ever.

[B]

And if I sell a million albums, that's putting another check over here in my household, we going to build an empire together.

[C]

You think Jason's going to want his cut?

[B]

No. In the household, try cutting that, not his pocket.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

You think.

[A]

You think really wealthy men are looking to their girl to form a business empire with them? Tell me more.

[B]

I think that. I think. Let me take this. Let me rewind this. I think it depends on the mentality of the man. Some really wealthy men, from what I've seen, want their wife to just shut up and be seen, and that's a control thing. Then there's other men that got a little bit more security. They want to build something with their wives. I think that when you get married or you have a brand, I think it just helps the brand. When you married to somebody that's successful, too, and y' all just working together in concert.

[A]

Mark Ice Parks.

[E]

I'm good with it if it's a business ep. If it's. I paid for this project. Where I get nervous is when people start dating artists. And I'm not saying this is Jason Tatum, but that when I saw the headline, that's what I. That's what I thought. When you start dating artists, you start having creative impressions, input, and you start wanting. I be spitting y. Right. Them drums could be tweaked a little bit, you know, And I've been in that situation where, like, you date an artist, you know what I mean? And you, like, start giving input on songs and thoughts and things like that, and you start really thinking you.

[B]

That's what you did.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I thought they were trying to control your speeches.

[A]

I think actually rock landed on us.

[B]

I'll say landed on us.

[A]

Did you end. Answer the question, though. If. If you were super wealthy, would you be looking toward your wife to be a business empire with you, or be it some type of power?

[E]

No, I would want to just create with her. I would want to. I would want to partner with her on things.

[A]

You're doing it right now.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

That's a perfect example. Like, I'm. I'm bleeding money from this.

[A]

He says he's not super wealthy. That's Why I didn't.

[E]

But I'm not super. I got no money. But I love to, like, work with my wife on stuff. But I don't want her, like you said, like, working on my speeches. I'm not gonna be writing her books.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[E]

Like, we can have our own worlds, but I like the idea of saying we can build stuff together. All I'm saying is I've seen people start to get in the studio, get in the booth, and don't. And that's what I don't want. I just don't want any creative offering.

[A]

Freeze. What about you, man?

[B]

I would absolutely want my partner, if I was wealthy, to do it, to build it together. But. Yo, sit your FAA now to this episode. Can I be a little toxic, please, Please. Why can't this just be a saying? This might go. And in the event we don't work.

[E]

Out, I want my piece.

[A]

I think they're married.

[B]

In the event that this don't work.

[A]

Out, if they're not married, they're a day from it.

[B]

In the. In the event this don't work out, I'm Jason tatum. I got $600 million. I'm still young as. I don't need Jeb.

[E]

He'll be fine.

[A]

Parks, did I need to ask you.

[C]

What's the question?

[E]

Nice.

[A]

If you were super wealthy. Yeah. Would you be looking to your partner for you guys to become a business.

[C]

Powerhouse if she was into it? I've tried to encourage certain things, and it doesn't necessarily work out.

[A]

You guys make some noise. Joe.

[E]

How about you, Joseph?

[B]

Hold on, sir.

[A]

Hey, big moment.

[B]

Hey, Joe.

[A]

These niggas are such cupcakes.

[B]

Joe Facts, we'd like to ask you a question now as well, and I.

[E]

Want Mota's answer to this, too.

[C]

My baby's eyes.

[D]

Thanks for being on. Thank you so much.

[B]

This the main, right? This not Patreon. This the main.

[C]

She listen to all.

[A]

Listen to it all.

[B]

No.

[A]

His image, though. YouTube line, miss comments, your commenters. This is interesting, right? Because a cam' Ron conversation went viral recently where he was talking to his ex, and his ex was saying, yo, when we were together, you didn't support me. And he was saying, no, I supported you. I just wasn't into your business ventures because I thought that they were bad investments. Investments. And you take that as I don't support you. And that couldn't be further from the truth. It was an interesting. It was an interesting talk that they were having. But if I'm guessing. I just told. I just had to talk with my girl last month. I think I told y', all, hey, what do you want for your birthday? I want content building. No, Sorry. And she said, why? Because I don't think that that's the greatest investment. And she says, but it's a gift. Nah, it ain't. Why it's a gift? Cause it ain't a gift.

[B]

Why? It's not a gift. You said, what do you.

[E]

It's a gift that's gonna keep on giving.

[B]

That's the problem. But you said, what do you want for your birthday? And she said, x. So if I want X for my birthday as a gift, get me X.

[D]

Y' all allowed this Nast spit.

[E]

That ain't a one off. That ain't a one off. That's the problem.

[A]

Problem. That's why it's not a gift.

[E]

It'd be like if. If somebody said, I want a cell phone for my birthday, but you got to pay the bill every month for.

[D]

It's a bill. It's not a gift. It's a bill.

[C]

Well, it's also his line of work, so it's going to become. If she gets really into it. Now you are executive producing whatever she's done, whether you like it or not.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That want a content building. I like your style, girl.

[A]

Yeah, I'm cool on that. Some business. Some business ideas that, like Mark was saying, like, you're inheriting maintenance, you're inheriting fees, staff fees, supply fees. It's a lot more fees. And time. That's time away from me.

[E]

No, I'm talking about your time.

[D]

Can we talk about the conversation that Cam had with his ex? Can we talk about it?

[B]

But I want Joe to answer the question first.

[D]

He didn't spend y' all okay?

[B]

I was waiting him to answer the question.

[D]

Yeah, he's good at that, too. I wrote notes.

[A]

No, I'm not looking to my partner to help us be some type of power couple. If she wants to go join, like, a sewing club, though, or the pizza club.

[B]

Some knitting shit, volunteer at the old folks home.

[A]

I encourage her to. Find some shit to do with yourself. Do something.

[E]

How about you, Mona?

[A]

Mona ain't getting no nigger. No. Mona is far. A long way from, like, if I.

[D]

Like the idea of, like. Like, chasing money with my partner or whatever. But I know in reality, when I've done it, it's like that spill over to the house, cuz. Y' all get the fussing about. So if you almost like, I feel like it's hard to cut it off. Whatever y' all fussing about investment you made. Sometimes that come to the house and cut it.

[C]

Who going to back up?

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

And usually y' all go on me. Y' all call me ghetto or drug dealer, but I promise, any business venture I've had with a man, it was some drug so far, but it's the same thing. It's a business and you make a lot of money.

[A]

If you a halfway decent dude out there and you looking to manage a comedian, it's a easy entryway. It's a real easy entryway.

[B]

And she don't even need a big meat. She.

[A]

If you a halfway decent.

[D]

Why halfway decent, Jo?

[A]

Cuz it ain't going to take like, no, but that's.

[D]

We still not shooting for that. Like, stop.

[A]

But halfway decent is good.

[D]

No decent. First of all, if you're halfway decent and you come in my life, my mentor and my new brothers are going to smell it and they're going to get rid of you. Correct.

[E]

That's a fact.

[D]

We play too much with these. No, but seriously, I feel like now if you tell me, you in particular tell me that the. That a drug business that I might have had with a man is any different from a legal business. It's the same thing where it's like we can't. We can't cut it off once we get in the crib. We still have. It's still tension from what we were doing outside. I don't think that that would be different with a legal business than an illegal business. Seriously.

[A]

It would be a little bit.

[E]

Oh, I think it is.

[B]

It is a little bit.

[D]

Why? Cuz it's more stressful with illegally.

[E]

You kind of always got to be on when you sell crack to the community. Whereas if it's like prepaid legal, you kind of just say, we'll talk about it on Saturday.

[B]

Listen, make sure you put the double lock on the door before you come. Yeah. Before you come upstairs, make sure you tuck that in the crawl space. So if they kick the door around.

[C]

I do kind of want to hear the fights. What were the fights about?

[B]

I had to shoot that over your dumb.

[A]

Cut it wrong.

[D]

It's crazy, cuz it's something right in the tip of my. I'm not even going to do it.

[A]

To myself that it's hilarious.

[D]

Listen, but that's what I think. I do like the idea of us chasing the same thing, especially with the economy, how hard it is out here. So if y' all got something, y' all got something, you know, average person, the. Is Not a great singer. And this is good at sports, like in average people. She's a great singer, you know what I mean? So it's like if we got something, we gonna push it. And sometimes we need all the energy to make it into this thing, you know? But I don't know. I like the idea of that being separate. I do.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's fine.

[A]

That's what I didn't about you. When you used to get a new.

[B]

Girl, they had money, right?

[A]

That's not where I was going, but I think they did. I know every time you go, that's.

[B]

What you ain't with, right?

[A]

No, it's the fact that they signed you out and hired you to their business and now you looking up in encyclopedias.

[D]

I love that. Is that what happened? Like you've had some of your hired?

[A]

Yeah, they hired. Now you don't want to hang out no more.

[B]

Why would you not be supportive of your girl's dreams?

[D]

And that's what I love about you. Because I feel like you wanted them. My friends. I got a. That's how I am with a. I.

[B]

Stop speaking to Dick immediately.

[D]

Don't leave me.

[B]

You over there. I ain't with that about right calls.

[D]

Or none of that.

[B]

That's not me.

[D]

I stop speaking to all y'.

[B]

All. And he's lying, yo. And he's lying like this. When me and him used to be outside at. At the height of our outsideness. Yeah, my girl used to be mad as she should.

[D]

This keep dragging.

[B]

So he's sitting here lying, but it's okay. But I think that any nigga out here, especially if you have the ability to stand behind your girl dreams, why would you not?

[D]

Well, let me ask you this. Have you ever did it reverse where she chased you dreams with you?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[B]

And them same chicks that was getting money, they was helping me get money too.

[D]

No Cat, he know I'm a jigg and low spending lot to do.

[B]

Go tapper. Go ahead.

[E]

You see him, T. You know your man, you a to do that.

[A]

When he that one way he put her on his business. She. She ran off.

[B]

I knew that's what she ran off.

[A]

With all the houses this disgusting. That was his darkest time period period. And like he was really down and depressed.

[D]

Did you kill that?

[A]

He wanted to un alive himself.

[D]

I beat that dude.

[E]

That really happened.

[A]

I was there for him. Lying. Say I wasn't there.

[D]

How many houses, Joey? How many houses, Joey?

[E]

I lost so much. What else I'm saying I didn't think.

[D]

You like everything he had?

[A]

He was broke.

[D]

Shut the fuck up.

[A]

He was down bad.

[D]

She wiped him clean.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, my God. What the fuck? What happened?

[E]

We want to know the story.

[A]

They don't know.

[B]

They really don't know.

[E]

I really don't know. I thought he was Ryan.

[A]

They don't know.

[E]

Shorty took your shit.

[B]

Sorry.

[D]

Please. You have to talk about your.

[E]

Don't tell us something. Joe's going to tell us.

[D]

We can't enjoy your good times if we don't talk about your. Damn.

[A]

That's a short ver. That's a.

[E]

What happened? You ain't going to talk.

[A]

Everything he had.

[D]

She did some trickery business.

[A]

He was so down.

[E]

Tell us the story, man.

[B]

Nothing in life, you make bad business decisions.

[A]

Literally nothing.

[B]

Where you don't necessarily.

[A]

To the cleanest.

[E]

Story.

[A]

Have you ever heard the term. To the cleaners, dog. She took my man. She took my man to the cleaner.

[D]

And when you said you were there for him, you bought his next investment property so he could flip it just talking to you.

[A]

I gave him a shoulder to lean on and to penetrate. That ain't enough. What? Did you hear yourself for real be feeling down on themselves. Feel like they can't go get it on their own. Yo, I got you. Yo, come on. Yo, we out. Yo, we out tonight. Y. We out tonight.

[D]

I got you down to go pull it yourself.

[A]

Yes. A real friend.

[D]

Real friend.

[A]

Thank you.

[E]

I'm just trying to understand.

[A]

God, what did she do?

[B]

She. You don't think I could go get no box?

[D]

Listen, that's not. That's not what we talking about.

[A]

You couldn't get no box.

[D]

Then we're talking about you being.

[B]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

You talking tough now that you cleaned yourself up and got some. That's. That is Cups then at that point when you was down and out, out of luck without a door, a pot to piss it. No, you couldn't get. No. Your eyes was a different color. Your skin looked bad. You was down bad. No, you couldn't. You cleaned yourself up. Look. Look at him. You bounce back.

[E]

Cause look what you did.

[B]

I'm not gonna yell or scream. Look, you performing. I never been ugly and I never been broken. And I always could talk.

[A]

He had a hard time.

[B]

So those three things in combination, I could.

[E]

Could get some.

[D]

I need something you don't know about.

[B]

We not going to do that.

[A]

I mean, you get a bunch of. If they feel like they can get a thousand doors at the end of.

[B]

The deal, you can feel what you want to feel.

[A]

Feelings don't equal face, Mona. I was there for him.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I helped him feel a little better during one of the darker periods of his life.

[B]

You about to piss me off.

[A]

And sometimes he act like you about to piss me off. Huh?

[D]

Was his eyes brown?

[A]

Yeah. Some wax shit. He looked buster twinkle. You might have to piss me off. Yeah.

[D]

You know, everybody here knows a joke because imagine you ugly. Can't try. Can't even picture it.

[B]

Yo, you so stupid.

[E]

But how she take your doors?

[B]

Yo, you want to talk about Marcus talking?

[A]

He's gonna piss me off. Marcus talking. I'm done talking to you. Okay.

[B]

You better shut your.

[E]

Girl stick your doors then and put you out.

[B]

That. That didn't ever put you out.

[A]

Who was there to pick you up?

[B]

Up.

[A]

Yeah. Watch yourself. Who was there to pick you up when she kicked you out in the rain? It was raining, too.

[B]

Whoever kicked me out, it was raining.

[A]

And it was raining. He's standing on. He's standing on River Road talking about, what light you at? I'm telling.

[B]

I'm at the light.

[A]

I'm at the light money.

[B]

I'll be right there.

[A]

I'm at the light, money. Yeah.

[B]

He act like he forget I had the bugs. Bu.

[A]

Don't act like you forgot. Yo, we've been there for each other in our friendship. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

Saying this is a. Yo, you the greatest.

[D]

Funniest.

[A]

You the greatest. Anyway, Mark, you done well.

[E]

He never answered my question. I get.

[B]

No.

[E]

I was. Oh, tell me what happened.

[B]

Nothing. You. Sometimes you enter back. Let him talk. Let him talk. You could just enter into a business with somebody, and when the business go wrong or the relationship go wrong would be on some.

[A]

They dissolve you out. Out.

[E]

So she. She walked with all the stuff?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

Have you seen it since?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Y' all good now?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Have you ever hit her physically like a punch or like a sh. Like a good. Like a mush. Not.

[A]

Oh, no.

[E]

You can't.

[D]

Ain't good for a mush after burning you out of $200,000.

[B]

More.

[E]

A lot more than that.

[B]

A lot more than $200,000.

[D]

I mush you at the invest fest 10 years after I ain't seen you after you do do that.

[B]

Nah.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Y' all tripping. You the mush.

[A]

What's 10? I'm mushing from the front. What's 10? What's. What's 10 times 25 grand. Like, I'm bad, man. Let me see.

[B]

250.

[A]

10 times? Yeah. Like 250 worth of houses.

[D]

Yo, there's more than that.

[E]

Ass.

[B]

It's all right.

[D]

No, but.

[B]

But pay attention to the story, right?

[D]

And the lesson was you could have took precautions that made it so it wouldn't happen. So what you did was highlight your mistakes yourself south. Instead of worrying about the fact this dirty scoundrel robbed you of everything you had.

[B]

Left you in the rain with a.

[D]

Bandana on a stick.

[A]

Yeah, she was lesson free.

[B]

No, she wasn't.

[A]

Like she. It was lesson free. Unscathed, not a pro. No jail time.

[E]

She was driving.

[A]

No community service, no nothing.

[D]

He not calling a better business.

[A]

He had to go. He had to bounce back. That's why it's tough being a guy sometimes. Like, you got to bounce back no.

[E]

Matter what you do.

[B]

Got to bounce back. And what happens happens when you bounce back better.

[E]

You're doing better than otherwise.

[B]

Eyes more twinkly and they look in their wounds.

[E]

More doors.

[D]

Oh, now they saw.

[B]

Bro, don't do that. Let me take my pills.

[A]

Stop what that means. What do you mean?

[D]

He said, when you bounce back, your eyes are greener than they ever were. When you bounce back, you doing better than the that robbed you for the little 250. It was 250 to a millionaire.

[E]

She doing bad now.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

She still got them houses?

[B]

No.

[D]

On a wet blood block.

[E]

Oh, damn.

[B]

She sold them.

[A]

God damn.

[D]

They kept the money. Damn.

[E]

It's cool, though.

[D]

It's thing me, man. Yikes.

[B]

They talking about. I'm not saying a word. I'm chilling. Listen, bro, I don't want.

[E]

Just one last question. Really, Like. Like really up financially or is Joe just with us?

[A]

No, he was down really bad.

[B]

No, I wasn't. I wasn't.

[A]

What he talked about, that was the poorest.

[E]

I lose money in business. You were still inside. You still housed.

[D]

Do y' all hear this?

[A]

I've never seen him bored in that.

[B]

This such.

[A]

I know.

[C]

For real.

[A]

I ain't known him his whole life, but I've known him since like 01, at least. Since 01. That was the down. Baddest I ever seen him. But you gotta look at him now. But take a look at him now. You bounce back that. Anyway, what else needs our attention?

[E]

Listen. Oh, good.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, no, this is important.

[E]

Yo, Charles.

[A]

Bar, this is the time that Ish was wrong.

[E]

So Charles Barkley gave an interview the other day, and one of the things he talked about was saying that he wished that he was on TV more because TNT's inside. The NBA has only been on, I think three or four times. All NBA season. The NBA has kind of pulled the plug on that and basically said, this ain't our shit. And Charles is just saying. And he said, like, I used to say I wouldn't be on tv. I didn't want to do that ESPN shit where you working all them channels. But I do wish he was on TV a little bit. And he said he hoped that things would get better in the spring. So it just seemed to be that the NBA really doesn't fuck with this show. And my theory is that they didn't want the show to exist anymore at all. And instead of just killing the show where they could go elsewhere, they did that industry thing like you do with movies, where you buy it and then you put it on the shelf so no one else could have it. So I just think that's funny. I think it's poetic justice, because I remember when they were on TNT and Charles was clowning ESPN people. I'm not. They do Spanish, they do this, they do that. They work 50 jobs like clowning them. And now he ain't getting.

[A]

And be clear, he's still clowning him. He said. He said a lot more than you even said. He was clowning some of the commentators, the experts, the analysts. He was clowning espn. One, two, three, deportez. He was clowning some of the shit that you have to say to even be on tv clown. The amount of times they've been on espn. Not just. Just since the NBA season, but this month as a whole. He said they've been there like, twice or three times this month. He said he don't care if he get fired. He was shooting at the upper, Upper executive. Hey, I would love nothing more than to get fired. And y' all have to pay me out the rest of my contract for the next seven years. I triple, triple, triple dare you Please let me go home and golf Please let me go home and golf and get paid instead of doing this bullshit. He said a lot. He said a lot. But the big takeaway was that he was upset because the show's not on. There's no airtime. I agree with everything park said. They just wanted that show off of the air, and it wasn't really good. Toward the end. One of the best shows ever. My opinion. Toward the end, not so much.

[E]

Is it slow down?

[B]

Where was I wrong?

[A]

You were saying that they'll be fine and they are still on television.

[B]

I didn't. I didn't say that. I said the NBA ratings have dropped. I said people would watch the show just to see Charles, Kenny and Ernie and Shaq make you laugh. It could be a game with fucking the Pelicans in Milwaukee and niggas will watch for them. I said they were an attraction in and of themselves. And I said that I think the new people that have replaced them are not fan favorites like they were. I ain't say nothing about them being okay. I think them niggas love that job. I think when you rich and you don't got nothing to do coming to work sometimes with niggas that you fuck with doing something that you love, I e coming to this podcast, it gives a level of enjoyment that we could come up here and talk shit and still get paid to talk shit like it's cool. I think them niggas love that job. I think they modified their lives for that job. And I think they tight when that shit. They expressed that they was tight when that shit got canceled. I just think that those niggas. Cause you came in and was saying that their new assessment would be, oh, yo, they not working hard enough. They not playing hard enough. They wouldn't go into the animal analytical stuff about basketball no more. They was just real short with it toward their end of day run.

[A]

I think that was the bottom line of my point is that they, they. You can tell that they weren't watching games. Yeah, you said that they were extra critical of their business partners and the product had just deteriorated. It's still a performance based business. Like, I think that EJ and Kenny Smith will be fine because. Because they're really, really good at just explaining things. Shaq got too much business and too much money to really care about.

[E]

He's not a basketball player.

[B]

But no, the funny part is EJ and Kenny would handle the analytical stuff. What made that show, that show was the banter, the comedy and all of that shit that also came from Chuck and Shaq. When you take those two that are the more journalistic, if that's a word.

[E]

They'Re actually just analysts. They're basketball analysts.

[B]

Shaq and Charles and bring it all together. I think it's a real good gumbo that everybody liked because the comedic portion and the performative portion came from Chuck and Shaq. But what if everybody didn't like it? Like, what if they ran whatever they little focal groups or they numbers, research and marketing and all that focus test.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And saw like, people don't want that no more. Oh, maybe it might have started to dip. But be clear, they were the number one sports show for a very long time. Time, very long.

[E]

Time and deserved.

[B]

And the rating said so.

[A]

And deserved.

[B]

Maybe it took a dip. That's possible. Yeah, it's possible. I'm not saying that, but we not gonna say that.

[A]

They.

[B]

Them niggas had a state. They. We know what they was. Yeah, they stayed.

[E]

They're a super entertaining show and I always thought they were. And I think I agree with you. Shaq and Charles added the personalities to what Kenny was doing, which was the analytics. And then Ernie is probably as good a host as there as there is. But. But I think the fans are also. This generation of fans want something else too. In the age of podcasts, blogs, where just so or pseudo expertise, there's so much talk. People actually wanted to talk about X's and O's and. And that makes it tough. But I think Charles and then made this bed and I love Charles Barker. I think they made this bed and they're gonna have to lie in it now. I don't know if we'll ever see them on TV the way they were five years ago.

[A]

Probably not. Probably not. Life is a series of moments and moments pass.

[E]

That's what I always say.

[A]

Exactly. Did you guys familiarize yourself with the ESPN article, the piece that they did on the Lakers, LeBron and JE Bus?

[E]

Oh yeah.

[B]

I didn't see the. I didn't read the whole piece. I saw excerpts from it and I think. I think it's true. And again I've come in here and we've been talking off mic and telling you what have said to me. And I ain't got the inside track. I ain't. You know what I mean?

[A]

But you do be having inside track a little bit.

[B]

But the. That. But didn't it mirror what the been saying to me months ago? I said some of this stuff and it comes out that this the same exact shit.

[E]

And LeBron has denied it, by the way. Just for the record, of course.

[C]

So what were the spicy details that.

[B]

They tired of his shit? Ah, him and Rich Paul are running around like they the mayor. And some of these people not with that shit.

[E]

The Lakers ain't with that shit. Nobody's bigger than the pros, bro.

[B]

We talking about old white money, bro.

[A]

Jeanie Buss privately grumbled about LeBron's outsized ego and clutches overt control over the organization. Some of the same things that you heard out of Miami when that whole thing and Cleveland actually right about that lack of accountability. Jeannie Buss felt that LeBron would shift blame onto others, especially after the Russell Westbrook trade that did not work out. She said she can seriously considered trading him. A few years ago, she said she feels like LeBron takes way too much credit for the organization being where they are. She said a lot of LeBron stuff. To which LeBron replied, I don't care about articles that are written, and all the LeBron stuff is juicy for headlines. I read the entire piece. The real Juice, to me was about the internal fight between her and her siblings.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, I thought that was.

[A]

That's weird. That's where we had the real team.

[C]

The rest of it sounds like regular, like, workplace bitching kind of. You know what I'm saying? I know it's. It's. It's super blown up because we're talking about LeBron and the Lakers, but it.

[E]

Sounds like, damn, but it's every battle athlete has had with it.

[A]

But the article was. It was talking. It was talking about how Genie Bus may be recognized differently in the estate planning than the rest of the siblings, which enabled her to take a certain stance or behave in a way that was against the majority of the siblings, especially when it came to do with the team, the handling of it, the selling of it, so forth and so on. They painted her to be like a real.

[C]

Well, the rest of the siblings came way after, right? Wasn't Gene Genie around, like, when the purchase happened? I'm just going off of Showtime. I'm not a fucking.

[B]

I don't know. But what I did hear, I heard that for a while she stepped back from the organization because they was been beefing. And I heard she stepped back and said, cool, I'mma let y' all do it your way for three or four years, and we gonna see what happens. And that's when the Lakers were that low. And she came back in like, all right, let a real nigga do this. Now.

[E]

She said that as a quote.

[B]

You get what I'm saying? She came back in and said, yo, let me do what we going to do, and we going to see. See who fares better when y' all was at the helm or when I'm at the helm. You understand what I'm saying? She fared better, and then she fared better.

[C]

But she was around since the 80s.

[E]

No.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

She's.

[A]

She's been the one. She grew up in the organization.

[B]

My dad was my. You know what I'm saying? So she grew up in the organization. Again, to your point, I think this is old white money, however. Oh, I'm sorry, everybody. Not a fan of the sport. I think she's a fan of the Sport. Right. So some people look at this shit like it's a business. So now when you start talking about the inner turmoil, I don't know this to be true. It could have came from the handling of LeBron.

[A]

Well, and I think they recognize her status with the organization. However, the other siblings say it's pretty clearly laid out in the estate plan. And if anybody ever knew their dad. Dad. That their dad wanted the Lakers to be a family business for the rest of life. Like any profit, any. Any. Any benefit, y' all divvy this up. We don't. I don't want to sell this. I want y' all to work through this as a family. I gave my entire life for this, for y' all to do. Hey. So the siblings are like, everything that Genie Buss is doing is in stark contradiction with what dad would have wanted with this team. And they talk about. They talk about the handling of the Mitch Kupchak firing, the Magic Johnson handling. They said Jerry west has kind of been the glue behind the scenes, holding things together between Jeannie, the siblings, and just the handling of it. And all the siblings are not happy with the sale of the team and how they went about. So really, really, really interesting piece. The LeBron stuff was second secondary to. To me.

[B]

Yeah, that sounds interesting to your thing. I'm just. And again, we now we just being objective.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I'm the person in the office every day, I'm busting my ass, I'm racking my brains. I'm trying to hold this together. I'm trying to create winning teams. I'm handling all these personalities. And y' all may not have more day to day duties. Y' all over there chilling being billionaires, right?

[A]

Oh, she fired them.

[B]

And I'm getting older.

[A]

You fired them from their positions?

[B]

Succession.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm getting older, dog. That's true. Y' all not doing. You can't tell me I gotta maintain this when y' all over there chilling. I gotta hold this together. And y' all just getting residuals from whatever it comes in. You can't. I want to live my life. I still look like a little. You know what I mean? But I'm with you. But, you know, you might. Can't tell. You might. Can't tell me that. Yo, I gotta hold on to this forever. Even though that was dad's wishes, it could be unfair. Y' all niggas ain't helping me.

[A]

Where do you stand on that?

[C]

It'd be like that in some of these family passed down shit.

[A]

But where do y' all stand on?

[B]

Personally, I believe if Pops left control or like the final say whatever that to her, he saw something in her and believed in her. So obviously he didn't believe in y' all to do it a certain way. Because you could easily say, dad would have wanted this, dad would have wanted that. You don't know their conversation. You don't know what Pop said to her. She sees something else, she knows something else. So I stand if he left it to her, that was for a reason.

[C]

I also think that family business shit is like dad said he wanted this to be a family business. If she's running the business, it's still the family's business. You know what I'm saying? Like I could see how or you.

[B]

Might be in an advantageous spot to say, yo, weed ain't gonna sell the business. Business you not doing, you just collecting off of the business. You just collecting. You not doing no heavy lifting. You're not helping me negotiate contracts. I got to deal with these when they come in my office, not you.

[D]

Did I tell you I don't leave nothing to them dumbass kids. I just told.

[B]

Well, all you got to know which kids to leave which what Pops could have did, he could have looked at his kids and said, yo, I know this one right here. She been here. She know how to run this. She going to do, get it done the right way. And I think, I think, think that the state of business, economy, etc. Etc. A lot of that your family business is a thing of the past. I think that shit is a thing of the past. A lot of times now people are starting businesses, they build market share, they sell, they go start another one, they build it up, they sell. And that's how niggas are scaling out here.

[C]

I think it's also a little bit different when the business has made billions and billions of dollars. Like, like we're no longer a mom and pop shop. Like this is an international billion, multi.

[B]

Billion dollar business the daddy took.

[C]

We cash this out. Like, yeah, you're right.

[B]

And she take that money and go do something else with it.

[A]

I'm never selling. Well, when I say never no time soon it won't be in mine or my siblings lifetime that I am selling. If I know my dad's story was there to witness it firsthand. How he took his very last and then borrowed and gamble game and kind of build the modern day live NBA game that you see Caesar, I'm never doing that. One, two. There's always sometimes is that and I'm not saying that what y' all are saying is off. But also sometimes the sibling is presenting themselves like they going to hold it down for everybody. And as soon as dad or mom hit the casket, now their own agenda is coming.

[B]

That's probably possible.

[A]

And if I'm looking at what Boston sold for recently, what Golden State sold for recently, and I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. And granted they got some record breaking.

[B]

They got the highest number.

[A]

Yeah, they got a record breaking number for it. But I'm gonna hold on for a little bit and, and have faith in the direction that the NBA is going in.

[B]

What if she, what if she did hold the ownership?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

She still has a percentage, I think, right?

[A]

I don't know.

[E]

I think so.

[B]

But think about that. Let's say hypothetically.

[A]

Yeah, just not majority, maybe, something like that.

[B]

You leave the Joe Button network to Trey, right? Trey might not want to do this shit no more. Trey might want to go be a family man like, yo, I'm sitting on 100, 200, $300 million. I don't want to have the day to day tasks of coming in and doing this shit no more. I can't go on vacations. I can't really live my life. You get what I'm saying? Like, I think it's unfair, fair to, to, to put that charge on somebody now, if they willing to do it, cool. But if they're not willing to do it no more because they want to go enjoy their life and not deal with the mental anguish that comes along.

[A]

With it, well, the audience should also know you're a big genie bus guy, bro.

[B]

It's not about any bus.

[A]

Yeah, but you are a big genie bus guy.

[B]

No, I think genie boss, but I'm not, It's not about her. I mentioned Trey. You get what I'm saying? Like, I think that that's unfair. I think it's, it's a goal that we, we would want our family to do the Kennedy thing in generations, but everybody don't want that.

[A]

You know what's funny?

[C]

Each child had a equal vote in the trust.

[B]

And they still sold.

[A]

Yeah, I guess so.

[B]

Somebody probably.

[A]

Felt pressure. Oh, yeah. Read further on that. Because even though they may have had.

[C]

It, after her father died in 2013, his 66% controlling interest ownership of the Lakers passed to his six children via trust, with each child receiving an equal vote. Jerry's succession plan had Jeie assume his previous title as Lakers governor as well as its team representative. At the board of governors meeting, she became president Leading the team's business operation while her brother Jim continued As VP of basketball operations, she had ultimate operational authority and could overrule Jim's decision. Okay, that's interesting.

[A]

There it is. So equal vote. But she was recognized differently in the estate. I know somebody recently who. Incredibly successful in business, and they recently just got, like, a really, really, really, really, really big check. So I've been home all week trying to figure out what it would feel like to just get that big of a check as a result of one of your businesses.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Give us an example. Check calls ballpark.

[A]

Call it a billion. Call it. Call it a billion dollars.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Sheesh.

[B]

Have they been in that range before?

[A]

They've had money.

[B]

I mean, up there like this.

[A]

Probably never sold a business for a billion dollars.

[B]

Gotcha. Okay.

[A]

You know what? I came to. This is gonna fuck you all up. Me, retirement for that person is probably really similar to retirement as a fireman.

[B]

I would agree.

[C]

How you been?

[A]

Probably has a lot more parallels than one would think.

[B]

I would agree.

[A]

Like, you hear somebody got a billion dollars, you'd be like, oh, it's lit. It's time. Oh, bowling, yachts, planes, and. But that person is probably sitting around, like, now. Now, now what?

[C]

For sure.

[B]

I think I don't want to sit at home.

[C]

I think that level of retirement.

[A]

Retirement.

[C]

That part of retirement is the same for everybody.

[A]

I never had all this money. Now I got all this money. There's nothing really to do when you have all this money, when you could.

[B]

Do all of it or have done all of it. That's why I asked you, what was their financial situation prior to the big, big check? Now, if somebody gave one of us, that type of check is different. But if you already been in the hundreds of millions for the last 20 years, and now you just get a billion dollars, even tens of millions, your life might not change, as your life might not change. But you're saying now what else to do? If I've been building up a business to sell it, and I might have made some money, made some money here, but now I hit one for a billion. To some people, that could be his motivation to go do it again. Or now I want to go see if I can flip 1 for 2 billion or 5 billion. Niggas work harder than us. You just keep. You keep growing. Them niggas work hard, bro. Like, them niggas might not work physically hard, but a lot of them niggas in that upper air, they work hard. To go back to what you were saying, you're like, if I could just get this. This amount a month, then once you got that amount of money, it was, oh, yo, let me go here. It could be the same thing with the business. Or if you got that amount of money right now, you'd be like, man, I'm poor. Chris Rock said, yo, if. If. If Bill Gates had Oprah and Shaq money, he'd jump off a roof and slit his throat on the way down. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, it's levels to the one.

[A]

I've never put myself in the mindset to think of what that person would be thinking. Like, in. I don't want to call it retirement, but. Because that might not be retirement.

[B]

That might not be retirement.

[A]

Yeah, it might not be.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, if I made that much money, there's no way I could sit home.

[B]

You can't stop.

[A]

I would kill myself.

[B]

Yeah, you can't. How can you stop that person?

[A]

Probably almost in more danger than the retired firefighter. Yes, for sure.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

Like, it's scary.

[B]

So you assuming that that person got that big check, and now I'm done, and now it's what next? Good point. That person that big, that could be another day at the office. Now I just hit a benchmark and. And now that's. That could. Motive. Like, now I'm. Oh, let's go. What we doing next? They got several over here.

[A]

I don't want to say any more.

[B]

About that, but I'm just saying they might have several companies. Hell yeah.

[A]

True.

[B]

I just ran one up to a B. Yo, let's go run the next one up. That's what we doing. Let's get. Get it. Yeah, there was a point with you, cuz we could take it off of them. There was a point with you where you was like, yo, I want to get to 50,000amonth. Right? If you was making $50,000 a month right now, you'll be very grateful. Be sitting in the corner and appreciative. You'll be sitting.

[A]

God has.

[B]

You'll be sitting in the corner.

[A]

So kind to me and blessed me. I know in. In this way. That's true. Which I'm popping. Pop. It's up out here.

[D]

Just give me the 50amonth.

[A]

Well, we've been trying to. You won't. You won't return the test. He'll text us whenever you're ready.

[E]

What else did y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Did y' all listen to the. The Cameron Letter to Dame Dash song?

[B]

I did.

[A]

I did not. I heard half of it.

[B]

I ain't listen to it.

[E]

What y' all think?

[D]

I don't pass on too many Cam freestyles. Cam still hard.

[A]

Yeah. They is too personal for me to want to get. Get into it.

[E]

I think that's why I like the song because it was. It was one of the few times where like, he wasn't. It was It Right. It didn't feel like a disregard.

[B]

Cam loves name.

[E]

Yeah. And you can tell it in the song.

[B]

Cam lost that. Yeah.

[E]

And I love listening to Cam rap, but it also. It was honest. And there were some jabs in there, but they weren't. They didn't feel like they were mean and they didn't feel like they were for the purpose of embarrassing them. It felt like, look, I'm really telling you how I feel. I want you to really think about this and reflect on this. It almost felt like an intervention.

[B]

It was from the heart.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

He loved it. It was from the heart. That's. That's the first. That's the. I took from. I was like, yo, this was like having a heart to heart with a person I can't really sit and talk to.

[A]

Dame is another one that unless something big happened in 2026, I'm just going to try my best to not like. It's never nothing. Yeah. Sorry me. That's it.

[B]

No, I get it.

[A]

Just me. I love.

[E]

It's worth listening to.

[B]

I believe it.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like that old storytelling. Cam like.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Like, he was really talking. Like, he walked you back from here and we did this and we did that. Like, it was almost like, dog, how you coming at me like that? Like, this is what we've been through.

[E]

Right?

[A]

This is who we are.

[B]

Like, again, it wasn't a diss.

[E]

And he was honest. Like, you helped me here.

[A]

You.

[E]

You saved me here. You got me off this record labels. So it wasn't.

[A]

It.

[E]

It was great. I thought it was great.

[A]

Before we leave sports, did you guys. Did you guys have a chance to look at the Buffalo Bills owner and the press conference he gave Terry Bula?

[C]

That was nasty.

[A]

Terry Bula and what he said, what he had to say about Keon Coleman.

[C]

That was nasty.

[B]

What'd he say?

[C]

No, he essentially, he kind of blamed the failure of the team on the coach picking Keon Coleman to a degree.

[A]

He was riding for the gm. He was riding for the gm. They asked the GM of the team about the Keon Coleman pick. The owner chimed in and said, hey, can I answer that? RC GM has been taking a lot of heat. I just wanted to be Known he wasn't with the Keon Coleman pick. If it were up to him, it would have been somebody else. I, I have that for a fact. Yeah. The player, he was just. It was, it was, it was, it was really poorly done.

[C]

There's a lot of times where the owners should not speak. They're not, they're not trained. They're billionaires. So they have a skewed conception of reality and how to talk.

[B]

And a lot of times they talk like they talking to the other billion, how to manage, how to do a bunch of things. Yeah, look full circle back to the Lakers like, yo, dog, I might be the in the trenches every day and you not. So you. Your opinion is weighed less than mine. And some of these owners got a detachment, bro. They, they billion. This be one of the businesses.

[C]

Yeah. Can I interrupt?

[B]

I'll address the Keon situation.

[C]

The coaching staff pushed to draft Keon.

[B]

I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his coaching staff.

[C]

Who felt strongly about the player. And you know, he's taken for some.

[B]

Reason heat over it and not saying.

[C]

A word about it. But I'm here to tell you the true story. See what, what really happens in a lot of these. It's like Game of Thrones level fucking getting ahead. The GM Brandon Bean was brought in, I'm pretty sure by Sean McDermott. They've had fairly poor drafts for a while. They've had some good drafts too, but they've missed on some picks. Wide receiver being an important one. And I think that the buck is just getting passed around so no one takes the blade and gets axed.

[A]

What people are pointing out after that interview specifically was that the wide receivers drafted before Keon Coleman didn't absolutely go crazy last year. When you talk about Brian Thomas Jr. When you talk about Xavier Worthy, when you talk about Marvin Harrison, who else was in that.

[C]

He balled out a little bit last year.

[B]

He balled out a little bit till.

[A]

He got hurt, lad McConkey, who had a better year, and I think he.

[B]

Was even drafted, but he picked up.

[A]

At the end afterwards.

[C]

But he. They had a different OC last year and they misused him, I think.

[B]

But anyway, I think that one KEON.

[A]

Coleman is 22 years old.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And he's still under contract for like three more years. This is a fucked up thing for the owner to come out and say.

[B]

Yeah, and in football, bro, one person don't make the team at all. Like one person don't make the team. It's not the only receiver on the team. Homeboy was fumbling and throwing picks and all of that shit. Like you can't do that, yo. Like I. I think it's. I think it's in poor taste if. If that's what they were trying to do. Make this young guy be the escape goat for them not winning.

[C]

No, I think that they were trying to just pass the buck. We fired Sean McDermott because he made poor draft decisions. That wasn't the GM who has survived this firing cycle and we still believe in him. But that was worded absolutely horrible.

[B]

Yeah, I ain't with that shit.

[C]

And we haven't. See, this is the problem. These organizations, Buffalo has been pretty clean for a long time. They were shitty for a long time, but under the Sean McDermott era, it was clean. They forward faced. Well, this is a bad step.

[B]

Y' all traded Steph.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Y' all had a number one receiver, if that was your issue. Y' all had a one.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Decisions are made on a yearly basis, bro, that affect your team for sure. That's it. You gotta live with them.

[A]

I want to hit the round of applause. Making a hard pivot. Hard pivot. Hard pivot. I want to hit the round of applause for a lady that has been extremely important in the eyes of America for the better part of 40 years. Keep that applause going. I want to hit the round of applause for someone who has been nothing but a beacon of excellence. Someone who has set the standard and been a clear example to those coming up behind her and young women looking up to her for the last 40 years. You guessed it, Vanna White. Vanna White has married her longtime partner. She was engaged for 14 years.

[C]

How many?

[A]

14 years.

[C]

You don't want to rush things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You got to take your time to.

[B]

Get to know her.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That's important.

[A]

Yeah. You don't want to rush into anything. So I want to shout Vanna White out for doing this thing the right way, not conforming to societal standards and their beliefs, doing what feels good in your heart, finding the one you love, taking your time, making sure that bond is built as securely as possible.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

And then stepping in the name of love, man, a lot of people don't do it that way. So I want to the round applause one more time for Vanna White and anyone else out there who is down for the 14 year engagement shout outs to her.

[B]

She didn't put no pressure on him. She ain't Rush him.

[A]

Yeah. She let him be him or.

[C]

Or shout out to him for not putting pressure on her.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

If you're in 13 of your engagement, please get out.

[A]

Hey, we didn't hear a bunch of subs. No, she didn't hit the insta story.

[C]

She was working hard, too, so she probably wanted to wait till after. After she retires.

[B]

Let us be mad heavy.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Can y' all stop it?

[A]

No, for real. We found somebody that she could build a business empire she never had.

[D]

I want to know what this sucker does for a living but loves her.

[A]

I'll look it up.

[D]

Look up.

[B]

Don't play. Cause he around.

[D]

He working and backing them letters.

[A]

I think you got. You got him up.

[B]

Yeah. That around a Texas oil magnate.

[E]

I almost would assume he would be.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

Vanna White ain't just growing.

[B]

He been with Vanna for 20. Something something.

[D]

Man is 60s.

[B]

They've been together for how many years? He's a real estate developer and construction executive.

[A]

Don't play with it. Don't play with it. Don't play with it. Now, what you got to say? What you got to say now, huh?

[D]

I don't give a. 14 years is ridiculous to be engaged.

[B]

That might have been y' all not.

[D]

Gonna talk me into it.

[B]

That might have been her doing. What if he said, yo, I'm ready, I'm ready. And she like, yo, chill, David.

[D]

Not to mention y' all wouldn't be engaged for all them years.

[E]

Who. I'm.

[A]

I'm open.

[D]

Her wedding is going to be in the back of that big, pretty house that you're building. Yeah, exactly.

[C]

No.

[A]

Well, the house will definitely be built in seven years. I just getting ready to say seven.

[C]

14.

[A]

Yeah, the house will be built. It takes seven to 14. I mean, it's a beautiful house.

[C]

He's getting really good luck.

[B]

The permits, the permits.

[A]

A lot of cabinets in the kitchen.

[B]

I want a virgin oak.

[E]

Like. I mean, like, some people like the long engagement and they just rock with it.

[D]

Some people don't want to be married. But why are we engaged, then?

[E]

I'm thinking about homeboy, folks.

[B]

She can wear the ring.

[E]

What is her name? She's. She's from. She lives in la. Dude is on Black Ink Crew. Ryan, I don't watch Black Ink.

[C]

Yeah, it's all you, bro.

[B]

She's.

[E]

She's a. She's an actress who. Anyway, they've been engaged. They got kids. They've been engaged for like 10, 20 years. They're super happy, and everybody's always Saying, when y' all gonna get married? And she's like, I'm cool. I'm good with it.

[A]

Shouts to her, a real one. A real one. Don't rush into nothing with nobody. Make sure you know him.

[D]

Yeah. 14 years. You should pretty much know.

[B]

No, not.

[A]

No.

[B]

You gotta live with him for at least 20 to really know him.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Let's see. All right, so Dana. Dana, Vanna White is married now. Let's also. Also, Mamdani cut all the hotel fees. And that's in New York. In New York business that people not in New York might not care about. Mamdani court cut all of the bullshit fees attached to when you're booking a hotel. The destination fees, the resort fees, the surcharges, all of this shit that is vague and misleading. He cut it not only for hotels in New York, but for New Yorkers booking a hotel outside of. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Let me hit the round of shot right there.

[B]

So even if like you live in New York and you going to Atlanta, you don't got to pay to save the wells fee and all that other.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He cut.

[B]

Do it on rent a car.

[A]

Cut all that out.

[B]

I rented a car yesterday. Them be having facilities fee, oil transmit fee. Yo, my.

[E]

What are you talking.

[B]

Do that on concert tickets. Is great.

[C]

Word. That's next.

[B]

That's. That's what it needs to happen next.

[A]

Just wanted to shout him out and.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Seems to be attempting to do the things that he said he was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Was doing.

[B]

Shout out to him now. That's what's up.

[A]

Go him. What else is important? What else is important? Nathan's and Coney Island. Let me hit the round of applause. You know the infamous business, the world world famous Nathan's. Yeah, I'm into this type of. Sold for 450. $50 million. I repeat. Yeah. Now it's not a joke no more, huh? 400. Damn.

[B]

Who the they in the grocery store too?

[A]

They sell products. $450 million. Nathan's, which opened as a 5 cent hot dog stand in Coney Island, Brooklyn more than a century ago, has been sold to packaged meat giants Smithfield Foods in an all cash $450 million deal the company's announced on Wednesday. Smithfield, which has held rights to produce and sell Nathan's products in the US and Canada and at Sam's Club in Mexico since 2014, will acquire all of Nathan's outstanding shares for $102 each.

[C]

Congrats.

[D]

They better not bring hot dog.

[A]

Busy business.

[D]

Goddamn hot Dogs.

[A]

I mean, a round of applause again. That's what big. You started selling hot dog for 5 cent, and 100 years later, you had 450 million for your bum ass. Great grandkids.

[B]

I was about to say, grace, grace, Papaya, you're next. I was about to say, see, ain't nobody waiting around like, Genie. I sold that 50 years ago for 400.

[A]

What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? In news, opposite of that. Sebastian tel says the $20 million that he made in his career was not a lot of money. When you really break it down. He went on the pivot show and.

[C]

Said, feel like we hear this story a lot from professional athletes. And I get it, I get it.

[B]

I keep hearing it. And then when you hear all of them, I can watch it on the show. I know you've seen at least 20.

[A]

I don't know the big picture, really, what you've seen, but you've seen 20.

[B]

Grown men, like, don't just say bad investments.

[A]

Like, how did you run through 20?

[B]

20? I never saw 20. And just thinking about it, like, my thing, when I see dudes and I'm talking to them, I'm like, bro, if.

[A]

You got 10, then you got 8, then you got 6, then you got 4, then you got 800,000. Like, you. You can see that money leaving.

[B]

Like something. Something is going wrong with this financial plan. That's a good question. And no excuse.

[A]

No excuse.

[B]

So I played 10 years. Years. You said I made 20. We all know about Uncle Sam, right?

[A]

So what's that?

[B]

10? That's 10 already, right? So that's about a million a year.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That ain't no money. It's not.

[A]

That's the real truth.

[B]

The real truth is I ain't really make no money.

[A]

I hate that he does that, but I know he feels I really. They called me the pocket watch on the show. Sorry.

[B]

I really ain't making no money. So people like, oh, I understand how.

[D]

You look so crazy from.

[B]

You know, I'm like, I ain't making. Make Floyd Mayweather enough money. I didn't make the type of money where it's like, I'm. I'mma go crazy because I don't have it today.

[A]

That's the real truth.

[B]

If you do the Math, that's a $1 million a year.

[A]

Parks is right. I do feel like this conversation comes up every four to six months now.

[E]

It frustrates me in a couple ways, you know, the conversation frustrates me in a couple ways. I mean, I get the Point that he's making.

[B]

Right.

[E]

If you don't make money or don't have access to that money or that world where everything costs more and you have expenses that people don't imagine, you got people you gotta take care of. You got all this shit that goes. You got agents, you got all. I mean, there's a lot of things you gotta do. I get how people underestimate how fast that money can go away. It's easy to run through a million dollars a year. I get that. But I don't want us to believe or I don't want to communicate to people that that means that this was unavoidable. A million dollars a year after taxes is a lot of fucking money. You could buy a house, you could make a conservative investment that would ensure that you're. That you have an annual income forever. Yeah, like you could. That's less conservative than I would go, but sure. And so it's a mix of, yeah, it ain't that much money, but it's a lot of money.

[C]

It's a lot of money.

[E]

It's a lot of money. And financial responsibility is the part that I want. The conversation I want to hear is about, here's what I could have done differently so that when these young people watch, these young athletes watch it, they don't make the same mistakes. Because you're going to make mistakes, but we should make new mistakes. And I find that we're making the same mistakes when it comes to money.

[C]

And even outside of athletes, just anybody who's making money really at any level, but particularly of any, any higher tax bracket level. Like, I think you're. I think you're absolutely right. Like, let's talk about how do you spend it properly.

[E]

Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

[C]

I do understand because there's a lot of expenses that we don't think about, like trainers and nutrition and travel and all types of. That comes.

[B]

It's not a million dollars a year neither. Like you got agent fees, you got this, you got that, you got to pay NBA dues. Like all of that stuff. You got to pay, pay it. He just was on some real round number. Yeah, it's less than a million dollars. If you average it out what their net take home pay is, it's less. But Mark's point is, right? Financial literacy should be the message that you're. But he just answered the question that they asked.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You get what I'm saying? Not just that, you gotta.

[E]

Did he.

[A]

No, he didn't.

[E]

See, that's my Point is that he. Yes, he did to me. To me. His. If I don't know a lot about this, and I'm a fan watching this, what I hear him say is, I ran through the money.

[A]

Cause it's not a lot of money.

[E]

Yeah, it's not enough money not to run through.

[A]

He did answer the question. I like Mark would have liked to hear him come to a different epiphany.

[B]

I think two things could be true.

[C]

I made a million dollars isn't a lot of money. Is not really answering the question.

[A]

But this is where I went wrong. He goes on to say, I was taking care of 40 and 50 and 60 people.

[B]

That stands. Yeah, but we only play the clip. But keep going.

[A]

I mean, I can play the rest of the clip. No, no, no.

[B]

I'm just saying, like. And what needs to be brought into this picture is when you come from these communities, bro, you are so far behind to even get to a level of relaxation, you might have spent 3 or 4 million just to get to where you piece of can sleep at night.

[D]

What you mean?

[B]

Give me an example. I'll give you one. I don't know how many siblings he has. I don't. I don't got 13, 14 brothers and sisters. Cool. So you sign a deal, your first deal might be 4 million, $5 million. Right. You are now by default.

[A]

The.

[B]

The foundation for your entire family, which us, as men, we welcome that for sure. Like, if you could give your little sisters college tuition. You came in and talked about how your father said he's so happy that you was able to send your. Your kid, I mean, your sisters, to the Montessori program. As a man, that shit feels good. As a man, you take on those responsibilities. I don't want us to just say, yo, we can make this money and cut everybody off in our family, because that's not the definition of manhood.

[A]

But you started with if you're able.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

So you don't think if you're in his position that your career is not gonna blossom because life has shown you different. So you think, yo, my next bag gon be 40. My next bag gonna be this brand. We just.

[A]

Everything you saying is exactly what I would have loved to hear from him. Yeah, I would have loved to have heard him say, yo, at this point in my career, I thought I had.

[B]

All the tomorrows, the time in the world.

[A]

I didn't plan properly. I didn't do this properly. When I hear niggas go through all of this money talk, listen, what I think is this I think. Cause I ain't gonna tell nobody what to think. It's a lot of money to some people. It's not a lot of money to some people. If you think it ain't no money, I don't think you should say it out loud.

[B]

That's the part.

[A]

Not today, not right now. Not with what's going on.

[B]

I'm saying based on his lived experiences, again, Maybe that was 800,000 a year for him. Right?

[A]

But again.

[B]

Let me finish. Yo, dawg, you're not gonna have your mother living in Coney island projects. You're not. I don't give a fuck what nobody says.

[E]

I'm with you on that. But you don't gotta buy a $50,000 chain.

[D]

They don't have to go from one extreme to the next.

[B]

We not going from one extreme to the next. He lives in Brooklyn. If you go buy your mother a moderate house in New York, you spending your yearly salary on that house.

[D]

Right? But when I said one extreme, the next moderate.

[E]

But for me it's the $50,000.

[B]

Chains in there's chains, it's cars. And we. And you Talking about a 21 year old black kid from the inner city. That is what all of everybody in here got chains and watches and shit like that. And we don't make a million dollars a year.

[E]

But that's the responsible. That's my point, right? Make. That's the conversation. I'm not, I'm not being unfair to him. I'm saying at 40, I just want him to reflect on that out loud. That's all I'm saying. Like, because the problem is if you say, well, I ran through all the money because it wasn't that much money, then a person, every athlete looking up is going to say, well, if you're supposed to run through that, like that's like that's the natural outcome. And for me, and it ain't.

[B]

It's not a slap in the face.

[C]

When you say that's not a lot of money.

[E]

That's the other part.

[C]

To people that have never worker are, have never and maybe will never see a million dollars at least one, one time. That's a lot of slap in the face. And especially I know, I know people. My man from, he's, he's a, a Street pharmacist. 1, 1 Some money around that figure and he same thing. Not a lot of money. And I, you know, we kind of understood each other over that a little bit because it's not really a lot of money.

[B]

There's levels to shit, bro.

[C]

However, it's a. It changes his life.

[B]

Me and Joe had an argument.

[E]

Money too, just to be clear. So it wasn't just 19, was just the NBA salary. So he actually ran through even more. But this.

[C]

And also, I understand if his career was two or three years long, he had. He said 10 years. Yeah, like, I understand blowing those first couple checks those first couple years, but.

[B]

Yo, he has kids by year eight. You should, bro, but he had kids. He was married. It's a lot of expenses that come along with that. I agree that the financial literacy piece needs to be expressed to the young people that are coming up so they can learn from the mistakes that you made. I agree with that. But we also are talking about a 2120. He might have been 19 when he went to the league.

[E]

Probably. Yeah. That's why I'm not castigating him for losing the money.

[D]

About 10 years of it. And I feel like it's about where you come from. So if you grow up and everybody got money, you know what I mean? Or you grew up in your friends, people had a lot of money. And if your friend's family had a lot of money, but if he's from the inner city like y' all say, I feel like at a certain point, if it's not that much money, then why aren't you figuring out how to flip it so it is more money? You know what I mean?

[B]

I feel like flipping money takes financial literacy that we are saying that none of us really have. Your family didn't give you an opportunity or your family didn't pass down nothing. You learning on the fly as a.

[C]

26, I think she was 10 years.

[D]

But not some years out of 29.

[A]

Ish crunch, though, that's a crutch when people from our neighborhoods run into the athlete, entertainer, money. One of the first things that I think you should do, and a lot of people do do, is they go get a business account. Now, if that business accountant robs you, then that's a whole different story. But most people, because you asking people, when you say we not financially literate, it might not be enough time in the rest of some of these people's lives to get the information that they lacking. But you can go with that coin and hire somebody that is going to protect you and your money. You can. And when people talk about going broke, I never hear. I never hear, yo, my accountant told me not to. Yo, I was going to buy these chains. I was going to take care of my 30, 40 siblings. My accountant expressed against this vehemently. I never hear that part. Part of it. And, and we talk about this 20 million and. And 10 million, all these large numbers. But it's. I know at a much lower scale that could benefit from having an accountant. But don't be wanting to share that money. Don't be wanting to go in their pocket and pay somebody else for something that they feel like is not a problem, is not detrimental or something they can't handle themselves.

[B]

And it's a crock of.

[A]

Yes, it's a crock of get a accountant accounts also. And what you pay the. That accountant is relative to what the you make.

[C]

I was just about to say real quick, accountants don't be that expensive because that could be. It could be scary to someone.

[A]

That's one of the big. That's one of the things that's scary out there is you hear accountant and be like, I don't have that or I'm not going to do that.

[D]

I can't afford it.

[A]

It don't have to be that expensive. Again, it's relative to what you make.

[B]

If you make.

[A]

If you make 70 grand a year.

[B]

Year.

[A]

If you make 50 grand a year. I'm just throwing numbers at a wall. How much do you think the accountant is going to charge you a year to. To. To run your.

[E]

And you probably get that money back in what you save longterm.

[D]

And not to mention a good accountant.

[A]

Make you some money, bro.

[B]

Accountants and financial advisors is different. That's one. And then number two, we. We hear enough stories about in the NBA and in professional sports that get raped and robbed by the accountants the same. So there's already a stigma and a sour taste in people's mouths when it comes to that. But again, I don't know. We going in circles. But yo, as a young black man.

[A]

From the inner city, I don't think we are.

[B]

I think we introduced him. But as a young black man from the inner city, bro, we could tell everybody what they can't do. He played 10 years. He got out the league at 28:29. At 28:29 I wasn't. And I had more financial information than most. I wasn't financially smart or sound or any of in my 20s. I think that's an unfair thing to say to this man that yo, he should have known better.

[E]

But I don't think anybody's saying that. I think our conversation isn't about the shouldas for him back then. It's the shouldas now in terms of how he's talking about It. And now he's talking about it. I want the best for him, but I'm really just saying you have perspective now. You know what I mean? Let's give it. Yeah, exactly. Cause that's what generation can't do.

[D]

But if his mood is. If his vibe is still. It wasn't a lot of money. You know where his head is, you know, saying still.

[B]

See, that's the part that get me. I wonder if at that age, he thought that wasn't a lot of money when he was getting it.

[C]

I don't think that's possible at that age.

[B]

It is.

[C]

A million dollars a year is a lot different. But I'm saying, look, 2000 than it is.

[B]

Not when your cousin is Stephon Marbury. Not when you surrounded by certain niggas.

[A]

Look, if somebody came up to him today and dropped a million dollars in his lap, I think. I think he would think it's a lot of money.

[B]

A thousand percent. Yeah, 1,000%. Because now he has experiences, perspectives in education, right. That he didn't have.

[E]

And I wonder what he would do with it.

[D]

And I feel like time, y'. All. It doesn't matter. It is 10 years of it up that doesn't matter. Like, at no point you're supposed to wake the fuck.

[C]

That's what I was trying to say. Like, the first couple years. I get it.

[B]

Yeah, that makes sense to me.

[D]

But it's 10 years.

[B]

You're still not kept.

[D]

Because we talking about 10 years midway. We ain't really got a savings. We don't have no investments.

[B]

All we.

[D]

We had a point in halfway. In 10 years, we still at a point that if these knees don't work, ain't no more money. Money coming in. And we. Because we're not saving and we're not flipping nothing. Like, yes. I expect you to kind of wake the up. Financial literacy or not, I think expect you to, like, bounce with it.

[E]

Like, you know what happens a lot of times? Sometimes you get. Now, I'm sorry, go ahead. No, you get into a hole and you can't get out of it. You've created debt. You created responsibilities for other people.

[B]

And now you're gonna tell your wife you gotta go from a G wagon to a Honda, right? That's a hard. It's a hard conversation.

[A]

It's hard one.

[B]

You're gonna take your kids out of private school.

[D]

Listen.

[B]

Send them to public school because you got downsizing your house. It's a lot to have.

[D]

Because the other side of that is. Is not telling the nothing and the sheriff come to get you out the house. Yeah, but so what the I'm gonna tell you? You getting a Honda Odyssey or the sheriff's about to get you out this king's house. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Like, I, I get. I get everything you saying, and I understand, but I just feel like the way his attitude is, why he's talking now, combined with the fact that you. It was such a long up. Like, I just. I don't know. And I do think, like Joe said, it turns into like a crutch a little bit. Or terms. Well, I didn't know. Are so honest about being over. And so many people are in control of what they got going on because they've been over. Because we share the information with each other. It's like, come on, bro, that I don't know.

[A]

After a certain while, like, it's like I tell my kid, yeah, hey, where's your code at? I don't know. Well, who job is it to know who the is supposed to know? But you, like, once you get all the money, who job is it to know what to. What to do with this stuff? But yours.

[E]

Yeah, we got that same expertise we develop on our cars, on our jewelry, on houses, music, all that shit that we can become experts on through Google and YouTube. And I mean, we become scientists about some shit about our weed. Like we could figure that shit out at some point. Again, I'm not criticizing poor people for making bad financial decisions. The system is designed to make sure that you stay ignorant.

[D]

That's right.

[E]

I'm just saying we can do something about it collectively. That's our job, right? As old heads. To let these young people. Where you left. Oh, I'm saying it's our job as old people. Old heads. Excuse me to intervene. I'm saying now, as an old head, I just want him to speak back. Friends of the company excluded. To lean back to these young folk and say something to them.

[D]

I have a question. Cause all of y', all, none of y' all are the only child, right? No, just me as a motherfucker with no siblings. I mean, my father had a couple children. Fuck em. Who cares? As a motherfucker that grew up alone.

[A]

Wait, fuck dad. Cause he did his numbers.

[D]

No, them children. In regards to me talking about me growing up.

[C]

I'm joking.

[D]

I have siblings, but they're much younger than me. So like you said earlier, we're talking a little bit off camera. My little sister's more like my daughter, cuz we so far apart. But I'm saying to y', all, at what point do that Sibling? It's like, whoa, cuz, if you got 14 siblings, you supposed to buy all 14 house? Or is it your brother that you slept in the bunk bed with? Cuz if we real far apart. Apart. And I had already moved out when you was growing up. I don't even know y' all like that.

[B]

Some of them might have all grew up in that house together, though.

[D]

That's why I'm asking y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

Cause y' all got siblings. Do y' all owe every sibling you have the same. Take care.

[B]

No. You might go buy one big house for your mother. You might. You might go one big Bob. One big house for your mother and your. And your family, but not.

[D]

Oh, responsible. Who are you responsible if y' all are from the dirt fields of contrast Kentucky and y' all grew up in. Cause everybody's story just seems so fucked up. And even worse, we had to walk five miles to the mailbox barefoot in.

[E]

The rain, 110 bedroom in a. In a decent neighborhood. All y' all move in till we can afford better. Again, the athlete problem. And the problem just to close this up is again, everybody assumes that tomorrow is going to be better than yesterday. And it's not always true.

[A]

Don't close it out on some vague shit. I like where Mona was going. I'm sorry. I want to ask y'. All, cuz that was.

[B]

No, that was a great question.

[A]

When, When, when, when do y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Cuz you got siblings. You got siblings? I don't remember if you have siblings. You got siblings? I do. I got siblings. When do y' all show up and be Captain America for your. For your siblings? Like, you know what I'm trying to say. Most people, like my. My brothers know when she get real. If there's like an emergency, you could break the glass.

[B]

You different. You different. You are different in that.

[A]

Why y'.

[D]

All. Cuz he rich?

[B]

No, Cuz he don't give a.

[D]

He changed.

[B]

Get it? How you get it? No, that's him.

[D]

He's always been that way.

[B]

A lot of people take care of their families, bro. A lot of people. And again, I want just to fall off of. This is what we are telling men to do today. We're telling men to be the providers and the protectors of their families.

[C]

And when we do it, that could be the downfall of.

[B]

I'm not disagreeing most times. Yo, dog, you are thinking. Doing what you should do for your family, bro. You said Family.

[D]

We.

[B]

I'm.

[D]

I'm really curious about what y' all think about your siblings, your brother and sister. Because I don't have any. I'm really. It's a real question.

[B]

I'm with you and I get what he's saying. It's just like once we all grown and.

[E]

I'm between.

[C]

I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back to point.

[B]

Not obligated.

[C]

Everyone's got this massive sob story. And sometimes it's very, very true. But sometimes, like, your sister might have a good job and is doing pretty good. You don't have to. To support their lifestyle.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah, that part.

[C]

Everybody doesn't need the fucking. Even some people that need you to be the Superman, you maybe shouldn't be superman for.

[B]

I'm not disagreeing. And it's how often they need, like, you gotta show up.

[C]

That's what matters, bro.

[A]

My brother has a really, really, really, really, really good job. Both my brother got good jobs. My older brother got a really, really, really good job. I thank God every day for that too. I am so happy that he is doing. You're such a. I'm serious.

[C]

No, that's definitely.

[A]

Thank God that. I mean that hell gotta call my phone or my mom's phone. None of that shit. Like, my mom could chill knowing that both her kids are doing great. And if something go wrong, I mean, then we'll talk, of course. Cause I didn't tell you to make them improvements.

[B]

No, see, it was the other side. Say, look, so.

[A]

Nah, for real. He went and made some improvements, see. Trying to be grown with the.

[B]

Got two cars, two nice cars.

[A]

No, he went and tried to make some house improvements. Like he made some.

[C]

He call us that, nigga.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Now on the other side, now they raised the taxes. Who knows that?

[B]

Me. You find out who knows that if.

[A]

You make an improvement to the street.

[B]

They doubled mine.

[A]

Nah, they killed my bro.

[B]

They doubled mine. You ain't hear me double what room you made, though. I put floor in my house.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yo, when we gonna have that episode talking about the improvements that be trying to make on their house and what it actually does to your tax bill? Yeah, second floor.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

My brother told me some outside door. Outside deck.

[E]

They decked.

[C]

You.

[A]

Don'T pay them people.

[E]

They money, man.

[B]

But no, Mark is a prime example. And I don't. No disrespect.

[A]

Mark made some improvement.

[B]

One of Mark's brothers.

[E]

My tax is doubled, man, with that backyard.

[B]

One of Mark's brothers is a lawyer and they tax as high as giraffe pussy up there. Yeah, but Mark, one of Mark's brothers is a prominent attorney. One of Mark's brothers is not so prominent financially. So now if mark became a $20 million man, which he on his way.

[A]

To, he's well on his way.

[B]

He ain't that far from close. You know what I mean?

[A]

He on his way.

[E]

Continue to the story.

[B]

Yo, you don't feel like you, you. I don't want to say obligated or. Oh, but you don't feel like it would be responsible to make sure your, your, your, your other brother.

[E]

I mean, that's what I've always done. That's what I've always done.

[A]

But you can't Mark that. Cuz he's a sucker.

[D]

Mark is still paying the lady that gets his text from his old man.

[A]

You can't ask Mark.

[B]

Lady puts money in Mark's pocket.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

No, Mark is a sucker.

[E]

That might be true. He said sweet. No, but in the middle, I'm somewhere in the middle as I get older about it. Because now I'm also like, I'm not gonna throw good money after bad. I have to draw a line when people are adults. You know what I mean? So for my brother, my. I have another brother too who's doing fine. My sister passed and she was doing fine. So he's kind of been the one we were worried about. I remember right before my dad died, one of the things he said to me was, I'm so glad he works with you. At the time he was working at my bookstore because I was always worried about how things would turn out. So I feel a certain kind of obligation to make sure that he's okay. But he fumbled that a couple times. So now. And he's obviously incarcerated right now. So my goal is now to make sure his kid is okay. To make sure that there's something in place long term. That's my goal. I can't take care of him at 49 years old.

[B]

Gotcha.

[E]

I gotta make sure that kid costs.

[A]

Yeah, bro.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And I do feel a certain kind of duty to that. But in general, because that's an extreme case, I do feel like when you hit a certain age, it's like more like break the glass in case of emergency.

[B]

True.

[E]

Like If I got 20 million and you got a regular job, and I don't mean, I mean just a good middle class, middle class job, I don't feel like I have to buy you a house or a car at all. Yeah.

[B]

At a million that's what I was trying to say. Like 200.

[E]

At 200, I would do it, but I still don't feel like I have to. Yeah, I would feel compelled. I would feel like I had to, but I wouldn't write that as a rule.

[B]

True.

[E]

That's all I'm saying. Like, I don't think it's the same as if your kid. If your people's in a homeless shelter.

[B]

Yo, dawg, every. Or if they. I don't care if you're playing music. I'll be trying to get this in. I'm gonna say it anyway. You can turn down a little bit, please. I was trying to say that kitty got claws. I don't care. Kitty got claws. I hate y' all spicy ass.

[D]

Kitty got claws is crazy.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That was nuts.

[B]

That was nuts.

[A]

That was nuts.

[B]

I'm gonna shoot back at him on Patreon. I'm gonna get him. But no. Or you put him in position to try to help him out. Like. Like my younger brother.

[A]

He. He.

[B]

No kids, wasn't in college, didn't know what the he was doing. I put him in trade school. Graduates. Now he owns his own business. And now he don't have to call on you as much.

[A]

You know, you do it your own way now. We own some of that business.

[B]

Executive producing, right?

[D]

Executive.

[A]

That's not what he said.

[D]

Hey, Ice, that's if your people came back.

[A]

But.

[B]

But I'm saying, you give them that shot. That's what. That's why I told my brother how.

[D]

Many years couldn't put his brother in.

[E]

Trace, the manager of my bookstore.

[B]

Right. Your brother going to steal all the tools from. But then after. After a certain amount of times, it's like, yo, all right, now I got to. What can I do?

[E]

What can you do?

[B]

You look out for the kids. Like you said.

[E]

That's all you can do, man.

[A]

You do.

[B]

You can't keep taking care of grown folks, though.

[D]

And I feel like within that.

[B]

That case, sibling or not, when you.

[D]

Do have it like that, that's something a can't turn down. Because when your brother come, it's like, yo, but I did do this for your son. It's like he can't say none of that.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Because that's something that he lacks on. Thank God you're doing that for me. Now, I ain't asking you for 20. I know you got hold my son down. I respect that, and I feel like they respect it, but I'm getting a lawyer to write up stuff so he can Hand deliver to my family members and my friends that we're done. Like once the money comes cutting them. Yes. I want a lawyer to walk to the door and say, hey, here's like, it depends. Like my father, 3,500. Yeah, I might offer her 15,000, but the offer is you sign a check for a permanent NDA. We don't know each other and we're not related.

[B]

Wait, how much money you got?

[D]

Well, like, once I get here, I'm.

[B]

Getting my mother 15B.

[D]

I was just giving you an example that like, it's levels of how much of a loser you are. So some people, I might come, the lawyer might show up with 8:50, you know what I mean? Some people, the lawyer gonna call you cuz we gonna cash app you. Other people, we gotta knock at the door with a check. You know what I mean? My grandma gonna get a different knock.

[E]

All right.

[D]

No, just joking, joking. I would never get my grandmother murdered.

[E]

He's gonna wait her out.

[D]

My grandmother would do an interview with my grandmother dirty. I'm telling y', all, my grandma do an interview about you tomorrow.

[E]

I feel like we did it, y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

Oh, yo, you might could sing if you put your heart into it.

[D]

I can sing.

[B]

I hear them raspy.

[D]

This think he the only one good on the mic. I like when we let him rock saying and then.

[A]

Okay, go ahead, tell your home girl. Next Friday is the day. Yo, it's time.

[D]

Let's go, boy.

[A]

It's time. Next Friday.

[D]

I might fry y' all some chicken. I might fry y' all some chicken.

[E]

Not with the. The chicken lies girl.

[D]

So what?

[B]

She said might though, so.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That also means might get with y.

[D]

I, I just love the idea of making all that food and this can only eat a string bean.

[B]

He ain't the only up here we like.

[D]

I like the fact that he can't eat any. So I have to do it while that ozippy. Cause running do is grunt his, you know.

[B]

Yo, this one.

[A]

I think we did it.

[C]

We did it.

[E]

We definitely did it.

[A]

Real good day. Real good day. Real good day. Good energy, good vibes, good people, good folks. Let's go, Mona. Super fat.

[E]

Hey, yo, if you had a fat.

[B]

Ass, you might be a problem. You see, I should be looking back.

[A]

You on the phone with Anyway, wait.

[E]

For that to come.

[A]

Hey, you on the phone with it without the super fat ass looking back.

[D]

Like, I got it. I don't like this fat lip thing.

[A]

All right, so we not saying it no more that Reddit. Listen, man, hopefully You've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there till the next time we you would do Farewell. Audio Cerebra Dir what the is that? Hey.

[E]

What the is that? Hey. That's how I step on.

[A]

So Long Goodbye.

[B]

Feature just to kill him.

[A]

Because we know, remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's oh, we have until the next time. Last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol. You might hear this on my new gym playlist. Hey. Oh, wait till the morning in the gym. Where do you see my playlist? What the is that? Yo, it's the weekend. I know, it's a snowstorm. What's everybody doing this weekend? Mona, where are your shows at? I know you got something tonight. Tonight as in Saturday night?

[D]

No, we at the Stress Factory, King of pressure. The 23rd.

[A]

All right. Markish, Ice Parks. What y' all weekend look like?

[C]

Studio.

[B]

This is 20 bags of salt. Tomorrow I call a couple of the.

[A]

Homies like, yo, you're still trying to get free salt? Pay for the salt.

[B]

No, the hustler and me want to go get a box truck and go buy all the Home Depots out.

[D]

I'm off. I pop out. I got ACG boots. What's up?

[B]

Yo, the Hustler, you want to go buy 15, 20 worth of salt?

[D]

Let's get it.

[A]

Freeze. What you want this weekend? What you want this week?

[B]

Weekend 35. My girl.

[E]

Hey, hey, baby.

[D]

New baby coming.

[B]

Not from here.

[D]

Snip snippies.

[A]

Parks is working Parks in the studio.

[C]

Yeah, I'm locking it.

[A]

I know what these guys are doing. And that's it, man. Y' all hold it down till next time. Keep us in your prayers or don't beat it. We don't care.

[E]

Get that little from the back.

[B]

Pest control.

[E]

Who call our Rex?

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

Joe Daddy.

[A]

Jbp.

[D]

Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp?

[A]

You've never.