Episode 900 | "A Whole Tray of Ice"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 900 | "A Whole Tray of Ice"
Date: February 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

Episode 900 marks a major milestone for The Joe Budden Podcast, with Joe and his crew celebrating their long run with a characteristically lively and wide-ranging conversation. This celebratory episode is primarily anchored by reflection, hilarious banter about friendship dynamics, and an in-depth, irreverent breakdown of the 2026 Grammy Awards — from awards and performances to culture, controversy, and memorable moments. The crew also covers black culture milestones, sports (including boxing and some wild hypotheticals), questions of tradition and patriarchy, as well as media news and relationships, all maintaining the show’s honest, unfiltered tone.

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Key Topics and Discussions

1. Milestone Reflections & Friendship Dynamics

00:00 – 16:33

• The episode opens with customary disclaimers and shoutouts to the listeners, both fans and "hate listeners." Joe thanks his cast and listeners for the journey to 900 episodes.
• Joe and the crew reflect on their growth and what it’s taken to keep the show going. Jokes are traded about shared Ubers, celebrating milestones (e.g., comparing their 900th episode to the Knicks raising a mid-season banner), and how fast time moves as they age.
• Joe deflects on revealing the biggest lesson from episodes 800–900, joking, "I'm still killing these [n-words]" (16:44).

Quote:

"Somewhere in the middle. I'll come back to that question. Listen, man. Episode 900 brought to you by...Salute to everybody that’s just helped along the way. This is awesome. Now I’m in humble mode." — Joe (17:30)

2. Potter of the Month Tradition

18:35 – 21:00

• The crew awards the ‘Potter of the Month’ trophy, courtesy of Vic Solomon.
• Jokes fly about the voting process and the meaning of the distinction. Ice refuses to say anything to the voters, maintaining "consistent energy" whether he wins or loses.

Quote:

"All the voters out there, suck my dick. I still don’t fuck with y’all." — Ice (21:15)

3. 2026 Grammy Awards: Discussion & Analysis

24:55 – 79:54

Grammy Watching Habits & Pre-show Observations

• Joe and the crew banter about the randomness of Grammy pre-shows, commercials for "avocados from Mexico," and their personal experiences—"I’m the only one in the world that’s enjoying the pre show commercials like this." (05:25)

New Artists & Pre-show Performances

26:06 – 27:59

• The panel discusses rookie performances, unfamiliar nominees, and standout acts like Lola Young and Olivia Dean.
• Recognition of winners in the R&B and rap categories.

Winners, Snubs, and Recaps

27:59 – 31:38

• The cast dissects the results, generally agreeing most winners were deserving.
• Mixed feelings about Kendrick Lamar beating Clipse for rap album of the year:
  • "I just thought [Clipse] really deserved it far more. But I don’t think it was a bad choice. I just really was rooting for Clipse, that’s all." – Mark (30:16)
  • No outrage or sense of “snub,” unlike previous years.

Hosting & Performances

32:11 – 48:59

• Trevor Noah’s hosting is debated—some feel it was "not his best," but overall competent with some edgy jokes befitting his final turn.
• Fashion shoutouts for Kendrick and Bad Bunny ("That blazer that Bad Bunny had on was me on the back. Absolutely sickening." – Joe, 34:04)
• Critique of Pharrell's acceptance speech: "Go to work. Like, shut the fuck up, Pharrell. I was disappointed by a lot of sickening." — Joe (37:22)

Use of the Grammy Platform

40:00 – 44:21

• The crew praises artists who seized their platform to make meaningful statements.
• Jelly Roll’s red carpet comments are parsed, with skepticism about his stance on politics: “If you’re not gonna do it in the moment where it matters, which is the Grammys, then it’s just…just Jelly Roll talking.” — Mark (43:11)

Performance Highlights: Lauryn Hill, Bilal, Justin Bieber

44:24 – 59:00

• Lauryn Hill is universally praised for her performance.
  • "She sounded great. She looked great. She like, again, Lauryn Hill. She sang the fuck out of the songs..." – Ice (45:06)
  • Some note she's capable of "ten times busier," but even on a light night, she's outstanding.
• Bilal’s surprise performance receives high acclaim from the panel.
• Justin Bieber’s set in boxers is judged to be "doing too much" and a "cry for help."
• Bruno Mars’ performances are critiqued as "lackluster" and a tired rehash of '70s themes — "I'm tired of this look now. You don't gotta do this" (58:10)

Chart Beef & First Week Numbers: Bruno vs. Cole

59:10 – 62:27

• Spirited debate on who would sell more first week — Beyoncé, Bruno Mars, or J. Cole — ends with a playful argument and quick lookup of prior numbers.

Concluding Thoughts on the Grammys

63:44 – 76:16

• General approval for this year’s show and winners, particularly for Bad Bunny's cultural impact.
• The cast discusses moment-making speeches (Billy Eilish, Kalani), the importance of using the stage, and controversy over Best Country Album winner Shaboozi’s "immigrants built this country" speech. The pitfalls of grouping Black Americans with immigrants in political statements are explained with historical context by Mark.

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4. Culture, Relationships, and Social Commentary

On Patriarchy and Last Names

155:15 – 174:59

• The group engages in a serious—but still comical—debate over marriage traditions, last names, and the meaning (and critique) of patriarchy.
• Mark makes the case for more egalitarian/partnered approaches, hyphenated names, and the history of the tradition, while Ice and others defend legacy and custom.

Quote:

"Just because you’ve been doing something for a long time doesn’t mean you have to keep doing it. Because some traditions aren’t healthy." — Mark (159:11)

Adulting, Tech & Privacy

184:19 – 185:04

• Discussion about sharing phone passwords and digital locations in relationships, with the general consensus that trust is more important than surveillance.

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5. Sports & Hypotheticals

81:48 – 94:06

• Shakur Stevenson’s boxing win is celebrated. The crew discusses boxing strategy, negotiating fights, and respect for defensive styles like Floyd Mayweather’s.
• Ridiculous, recurring hypothetical: "How many of [each cast member] would it take to beat Deontay Wilder/Mike Tyson in his prime?" Results range from 4 to 25, with Joe ad-libbing:
  • "The number I'm putting out there is to guarantee a win. Not a debate, a win." (93:09)
  • Mark: "If we fighting, I'm saying three. If we're boxing, I'm saying a lot." (91:26)

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6. Versus Battles: Trick Daddy vs. Plies, Hit-Boy vs. Mike Will

96:43 – 116:02

• Intense, impromptu "versus" debates pitting Trick Daddy against Plies, breaking down iconic and street records, and the ways performance and catalog depth affect the outcome.
• Crew reviews the Mike Will vs. Hit-Boy battle and critiques song selections, the evolution of the producer’s public persona/"swag", and how live events have shifted.
• Producer "swag" and visibility are discussed in the context of hip-hop history, noting that beat tags and personalities like Pharrell, Kanye, and Swizz Beatz changed the game.

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7. Media Business Moves & News

174:32 – 176:31

• ESPN and Disney’s strategic media deal with the NFL is flagged as an industry game-changer:

  • "I can't remember a time where I've seen two behemoths...not just one gobble up the other" (175:15)

• Announcement that the Grammys will move from CBS to a Disney-owned property (Hulu/Disney+) starting 2027.

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8. Obituaries & Legacy

178:03 – 179:58

• Rest in peace tributes to Demond Wilson (Lamont from Sanford and Son) and Michael "5,000" Watts (Houston DJ & Swishahouse founder).

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9. Other Memorable Moments

Banter & Jokes

• The cast repeatedly jokes about “sparkles on your hoodie,” sharing Ubers, and a running bit that Mark is "abused at home" because of how he has to defer in household debates.
• Extended joking about whom each host would date from the Grammys (e.g., Cher, Sabrina Carpenter).

Open-Ended Lists

• Discussion on how many Grammy winners (especially hip-hop artists) feel underappreciated, and a rundown on how little formal recognition top rappers like Drake and Nicki Minaj have earned — despite their cultural dominance.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

On aging and time:

"As you get older, time moves faster as hell. Yeah, that's whack." (16:13)

On Kendrick vs. Clipse:

"I did not want Kendrick to get rap album of the year. ... I wanted Clipse to get rap album of the year. I just thought they really deserved it far more." — Mark (30:16)

On Pharrell’s acceptance speech:

"Go to work. Like, shut the fuck up, Pharrell. I was disappointed by a lot of sickening." — Joe (37:22)

On Lauryn Hill's performance:

"She sang the fuck out of the songs where she was singing it made me feel like, damn, yo, I don't even. I shouldn't be slandering you like this." — Ice (45:06)

On patriarchy and tradition:

"Just because you’ve been doing something for a long time doesn’t mean you have to keep doing it. Because some traditions aren’t healthy." — Mark (159:11)

On male ego and fighting Deontay Wilder:

"How many Ices do you think it would take to win against Deontay Wilder?... About 25." (90:41–90:55)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Shoutouts & Episode 900 Reflection: 00:34 – 16:33
• Potter of the Month Segment: 18:35 – 21:00
• Grammys Discussion Begins: 24:55
  • Grammy Pre-show Banter: 25:00 – 26:06
  • New Artists & Pre-show Performances: 26:06 – 27:59
  • Winners, Snubs & Recaps: 27:59 – 31:38
  • Trevor Noah’s Hosting & Fashion: 32:11 – 34:46
  • Pharrell Speech Critique: 36:48 – 40:34
  • Jelly Roll Comments: 41:57 – 44:21
  • Lauryn Hill Performance: 44:24 – 47:44
  • Bilal & Justin Bieber: 47:52 – 54:27
  • Bruno Mars & Album Sales Debate: 57:14 – 62:27
• Patriarchy/Last Name Debate: 155:15 – 174:59
• Rest in Peace Tributes: 178:03 – 179:58

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Closing Thoughts

Episode 900 of The Joe Budden Podcast blends celebration and introspection with classic irreverence, deepening audience connection by not only revisiting hip-hop’s biggest night but also turning a critical eye toward Black culture, tradition, and the business of music and media. Full of humor, tangents, and sharp takes from everyone on the cast, it’s a reminder of why the show has made it to such a significant milestone.

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Listen If You Want:

• Authentic, unfiltered hip-hop culture commentary
• Inside banter and personality-driven debates
• Memorable moments and quotables about music, culture, sports, and relationships
• Hilarious hypotheticals and arguments that skirt the line between genius and absurdity

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

Damn it.

[C]

First three minutes. Always tell you.

[A]

Mike Check, man. So I'm happy to be here. That was going on out there. Yo, sign up to the Patreon. Peace Salute. Shout out to the Patroni. Shout out to the hate listeners. Shout out to the ladies, single and involved. Shout to the happy couple. Shout to the miserable couples. Shout to the musicians. Shout out to those of you trying to be musicians that are trash. Shout out to who else? The kids. The children out there. Shout to y'.

[B]

All.

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We believe the children are the. Shout to the teachers. Shout to the nurses. Y' all been striking longer than I thought today in that yet I ain't seen the people about. Y' all don't know. Y' all have no idea.

[C]

Yeah, hello.

[A]

I thought niggas with sick family members is fucked up. They favorite nurses for months for out of state nurses.

[B]

Crazy.

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Yeah.

[C]

11 a week.

[A]

I wish I would be in the hospital bed, try to get a new nurse in there.

[B]

Talk over my nurses.

[D]

A couple of my nurses.

[B]

That's what we got, nurses.

[C]

Yeah, I got a bunch of nurse friends. 11 a week. They paying them. All right. That's what that solo.

[B]

You got the out of town ones that's coming in and the ones in town you got both sides coming. You killing the game, boy. He said a couple of my nurses. Imani, is that you?

[C]

Oh, these niggas here is crazy, bro. But it's cool. This crazy.

[B]

What up, boy? What up?

[D]

Talk started directly on. I see.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I told you. You could tell right away.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

[A]

You're right. I'm in a good mood.

[B]

Yeah, I'm in a great mood.

[A]

I'm staying silent. All right, listen, first and last time, listeners, check this out. When the cast gets on, I do intend to stay silent. That's. That's one.

[C]

Just new. No, sometimes I try to stay silent sometimes.

[B]

If it's going the way he want.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Got it. There we go.

[A]

Some of them are prepared to stand on ledges that I'm not sure that I am right. That's one, two. If you're new here, I'm not well in the head. The way that my brain operates, the way that I observe you may hear some things that no one else in the world thinks but me. And you may hear that a lot during our Grammy conversation. I'm not trying to get any of y' all to think what I'm thinking. I'm just telling you what I think about some shit.

[D]

Are you guys lined up?

[A]

I mean, I just know I was watching and writing notes that nobody in the world gotcha. Where's my phone? Like, my first note is about you, actually. Oh, yeah, yeah. Look, park should be in Rufus Dusol.

[D]

That's what he know what that is, but okay.

[A]

Cause I was watching the pre show, and they got all these groups that I don't know who the fuck it is. Here they come, they pull up three or four white boys in black leather biker mock neck jackets.

[C]

I'm like, who is this?

[A]

And it say Rufus Dassault. I'm like, oh, okay, that's like some white boy band De La Soul. And I'm like, oh, shit, this is plot screw.

[D]

I could be Rufus De Soul.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Rufus.

[D]

Yo, Rufus, if y' all hiring, give me a shout. Rufus.

[C]

Oh, nah, this is you right here, Parks.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Nah, Parks is definitely in Rufus d'. Usau. Nobody else watching the Grammys was thinking that at all.

[D]

That did not cross my.

[A]

Another one. And then I'm shutting up and we.

[C]

Can start these get. They killing them out here. They got Europe on smack.

[B]

They got your Rufus.

[A]

Oh, man. What the Was I saying?

[C]

The other one.

[D]

You got the other one.

[A]

Oh, one more and then I'm tossing it to my trusted panel friends. During the pre show, I saw a commercial for avocado from Mexico.

[D]

I did. I saw that one. They played that a couple times. I had a worse commercial though.

[A]

Way hold up now, because some of the audience is confused still.

[C]

Me too.

[A]

Listen, I've never seen a commercial for any avocado.

[D]

They had a couple in the Super.

[A]

Bowl 901, let alone avocado.

[D]

From Mexico.

[A]

From Mexico. From Mexico. And every commercial after that was starring a Mexican. I don't give a fuck if it was Geico. Whatever. Victoria's Secret. A Mexican came to that screen. I was like, you know what?

[C]

The Geico had a hat on. I said, I'm the only one in.

[A]

The world that's enjoying the pre show commercials like this.

[D]

Nah, the. The one that me up as a 2000s music aficionado fan. I don't know who Jazzy Faye or Sierra. Whoever approved one two Prep is crazy.

[C]

They did 12 prep.

[D]

12 prep.

[B]

That's crazy.

[D]

That was absolutely crazy.

[C]

Clearing that.

[A]

But all of those. Got one of the songs. No. This is absolutely nuts. What's going on? Anyway, I'm happy to see. Happy to see everybody.

[B]

All right.

[A]

This tradition. Come on, man. Every year around this time, you know what time it is. Some of y' all been here for long enough.

[B]

I might not stop. 76 floors. You can call me the Dr. J. So I got the 76 Florida joint.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

I 97.

[C]

Jay z say when flex what up?

[B]

Boy. Me down and build me up Beginning like we need your back some kick ass again Cold got blow though he's no big and pop but he's close I'm posing when they got me fighting.

[A]

Cold, man.

[B]

Ignite you they gon good night you with that's only half. If they like you, they ain't even a half. What they might do don't believe me ask Michael. See Martin, see Malcolm, you see Biggie, see Pac. See success in his outcome. See Jesus, see Judas, see Caesar, see Brutus. See successes like suicide. Suicide is a suicide. If you succeed, prepare to be crucified. Media medals n sue you. You settle every step you take. They remind you ghetto so it's tough being Bobby Brown to be Bobby then.

[A]

You gotta be Bobby now.

[B]

Now the question is, is to have hats.

[A]

Listen, man, so happy y' all could be here, man.

[B]

Turn that up. Turn up for me. I 97 you heard. You know what it is. Funklux JC yeah. Everybody wanna be the king Rain, you laying in the balcony with holes in your dream or your Malcolm X'd out get distracted by screams Everybody can channel my chains. Oh.

[C]

Let's go. Congratulations. Congrats to the Clips.

[A]

Oh, va. What's going on out there? Va One big Yes, sir Malice.

[B]

What up.

[A]

Push?

[B]

What up, Ego. Skills? What up?

[A]

Yeah. Congratulations, Skillz, man Va on the streak this weekend. Turn it up, turn it up.

[B]

It's I said Virginia, nigga, wake it up out there. Run from the spirit of repossession.

[A]

Too much enamel covers your necklace.

[B]

I buy bitches, you buy in sections. You buy watches, I buy collections. Misery's fueling your aggression. Jealousy's turned into obsession. Reality TV is mud wrestling Some sign checks I know better than beware of.

[A]

My name that there's delicate, you know.

[B]

I know where you're delicate. Crush you to pieces I hum a breath.

[A]

Y' all think Chad watched the Grammys? That's a good question.

[D]

You think Jim Jones is.

[A]

Yeah, I think Jim did. Whole new York City, Philly.

[C]

What up, what up, what up?

[B]

I know by now you get the message uncle said, nigga, you must be sick all you talk about is just getting rich.

[A]

Everybody traveling right now. Everybody get ready for Super Bowl.

[B]

The system with changing whips it don't take much to put 2 and 2. Your lucky streak is now losing you.

[A]

Money dried up like a cuticle. You gasping for air now.

[B]

It's beautiful, John said, but it's not enough.

[A]

Hey, come on, man. West coast, what up? Congratulations. Happy Black History Month.

[B]

TV off.

[C]

Turn his TV off.

[B]

Hey, turn his TV off. Turn his TV off.

[A]

Turn his TV off.

[B]

Wait a minute.

[A]

Ain't no other king and his web.

[B]

Thing they siblings, nothing but my children one shot, they disappearing.

[A]

I'm in a city with a flabby getting thrown like it was passed interference.

[C]

Padlock around the building crash. Pulling up an unmarked truck just to play freeze tag with a boner pick.

[A]

Like it was sea bass. So when I made it out, I.

[C]

Made about 50k from a show.

[B]

Trying to show niggas the ropes before.

[A]

They hunt for a rope.

[B]

I'm prophetic, they only talk about it.

[C]

How I get it Only good for.

[A]

Saving face, seeing the cosmetics. How many hands I gotta take to level my aesthetics?

[B]

Hurry up and get your muscle up.

[A]

We have the plyometric nick around. Whole PG Lang sound wave. Congrats.

[B]

You could die better. Mouth, you're full of deceit.

[C]

Let these cowards tell it.

[B]

Walking new.

[C]

At least.

[D]

Get one for this.

[A]

Oh, brave.

[C]

All right, man.

[A]

We got a great show.

[B]

Come on, man.

[A]

Come on, man. Keep this applause going for the greatest show in the World Wide Web. And you can tell the world I said, all right, man. Come on, man. Let me get these drops out the way for the best crew on Earth. So happy y' all could be here with us today. Shout out to everybody traveling. Everybody not traveling.

[C]

Who is that?

[B]

It's Mark lamahill and Flip, Flip, Flip.

[A]

Everybody that just been on some in the house shit where it's nice and toasty.

[B]

What?

[A]

Keeping it warm, you know what I mean? Still ain't moving. Come on, man. Shout out to the New Yorkers your car is stuck, Been there for a week. Shout out to the old school niggas out there with the shovels Getting digging out cars charging about a buck, buck 50.

[D]

Shot his old school park on the snowbank. Fuck it. I seen a couple cars, like, at a full fucking angle.

[A]

Damn, man, that's horrible. But, yeah, I mean, big Jersey. Whenever I'm in the building, shout to anybody with Fucking garages, driveways, you know what I mean? Somewhere indoors where you could put your vehicle. See what I mean?

[C]

It's nice.

[A]

You know what I mean? It's nice.

[D]

It's nice.

[B]

Hop.

[A]

Skipping. The jump is right there. Three minutes away, man.

[B]

Man.

[A]

Three minutes.

[B]

Three minutes away.

[D]

Shout to the Uber drivers. I know y' all are up.

[B]

Up, up, up, up.

[C]

I kill them.

[B]

Up.

[C]

Kill them. My. I told you my was $90 dam back the other day.

[A]

You didn't tell me. We don't talk. I'll tell you.

[C]

I said it when I came up here.

[A]

Your uber was what, 90 each way.

[C]

Each way.

[A]

Oh, like, which Uber did you get? Uber Black.

[C]

What's light.

[A]

Which Uber was it xl Regular?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm not n. XLE regular.

[A]

And you lying on it. Wasn't.

[C]

It was. It was cheaper, actually. It was cheaper.

[B]

The regular.

[A]

I'm saying you didn't get Uber.

[B]

It was.

[C]

But it's all right, though. You. You hate it.

[B]

It's cool.

[D]

You got that good Sienna.

[C]

I don't know what it was. It was 90. I would have sat in the Civic.

[A]

I don't give a.

[C]

Sharing.

[B]

I don't want to talk, but other than that, I'm good. Y' all get too much money. Do share Uber.

[C]

Yeah, I wouldn't do. Yeah, that's good.

[A]

Yeah. If one of y' all do a shared Uber, you're fired.

[C]

I'm with you. I'm with you.

[A]

No, seriously. We gotta put boundaries.

[C]

I'm a block. Yeah. Our friendship dynamic changes if you're doing a shared Uber.

[B]

I'm not gonna hold.

[A]

Yeah, we gotta put boundaries on what's allowable and what's not in friendships. Some of y' all already teeter that line with me, but a shared Uber? Yeah, sure. Listen, man. Greatest show on turf. Greatest cast in the world. Web host.

[D]

It's 900.

[A]

Come on, wake it up.

[C]

Are you crazy?

[B]

I know. I know you tired. Wake it up. 900. I came here hype. You want to do all that other. It's 900. You made it. It was fired. It took fire. 900 waking up.

[C]

Man. That.

[B]

Make some noise. Y' all too calm for that.

[A]

This is episode 900.

[C]

Yeah, man. Congrats.

[B]

Congratulations.

[A]

Thank you. And congratulations to you guys, man.

[B]

Congratulations to you, boy.

[A]

Everybody that's here has been here for long enough to celebrate.

[B]

Should we all celebrate? 800? That's crazy. They went by this fast. Yeah. How do you feel, champ?

[A]

The 8 hundreds was a ride. The 8 hundreds was definitely.

[D]

That was a hell of a hell.

[A]

Of A patreon is me up Now I look to the top. This is for. I'm just down noticing that the content number is up there. That should say something crazy. Yeah, like the amount of pieces. 100 or something.

[B]

You count that too? You count the number of posts?

[A]

I. I don't count anything. I just come to work to it. But. So this is great. When they asked me last night if I wanted to put some balloons up or some. I was like, nah. For some reason, I felt like the Knicks putting up the. Putting up the inseason tourney. Like, we could add a. I'm conflicted with that because on one side, what.

[C]

You say, don't compare us to the Knicks.

[A]

I just mean the recent conversation about should they raise that banner or. Or not. Like, so. Yeah, now I'll wait till a thousand. We're doing something right at a thousand.

[D]

What?

[C]

Oh, no. A thousand.

[D]

We're gonna be in a balloon.

[B]

There you go. Yeah, that's like. You got to do it big. Got to.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't like that. As you get older, time moves faster as hell. Yeah, that's whack.

[C]

Yeah. And you sleep a lot. Should be hauling ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Seriously, that wake up at 6 and, like, maximize their day.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It don't move as fast, but, you know, we'd be knocked up.

[A]

Nah, that time is starting to zoom. I ain't gonna hold you, but it's cool, man.

[B]

What's the biggest lesson you learned between 800 and 900?

[A]

That's a good question. Let me think about it. Let me think about it. That's a real good question. You always got some fucking great CNN question. In the talk journalism you gotta fucking think about. Biggest lesson from 800 to 900. I'll think about it. I'll come back to me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, the first thing that come to mind is like, I'm still killing these. I gotta get through mad. It's mad in my brain before I get to like the lesson. The actual lesson.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Too much. Too much to celebrate. I can't.

[A]

With me. That's the first thing to come in your mind. That's the first ten things.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Still. Still killing out here. God damn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somewhere in the middle. I'll come back to that question. Listen, man. Episode 900 brought to you by Powered by Fueled by Prize Picks. Prize Picks, gang. Salute to Prize picks. Salute to all our partners. Salute to everybody. That's just helped along the way. This is awesome. Now I'm in humble mode.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

That quick after I shit on niggas. I get humble.

[C]

Gotta get out the way first.

[A]

I get humble, man.

[C]

Get out the way.

[A]

I got bigqueens flipping the building. Couldn't have got to 900 without him. You already know what he did to the platform. You already know what he did to the content game. Come on, stop playing with us, man. Next to him. Come on. They don't even know why he's still here. They confused. They have no idea what every week he is fighting for his life. Life out there as to why he even associates with us. And that's why I with this guy, man. Couldn't have got the 900 this way without him. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building next to him, man. Ish. All right. Next to him.

[C]

Come on, man.

[A]

Stop playing with him. Come on. Stop playing with him, man.

[C]

You know, they announced that it's official for the month of January.

[B]

Oh, that's right.

[C]

Yeah. Hold on.

[B]

Before we get started.

[A]

You excited Part of the month.

[B]

He happy.

[A]

This is your second one.

[C]

No, I ain't.

[A]

This is first or second one?

[B]

Second. Second. My son, you are old.

[C]

You do this.

[B]

You a old grumpy.

[C]

Let me. Let me introduce this first. Real quick.

[B]

What the Is that?

[A]

You got him some cupcakes?

[B]

Our.

[C]

Our good friend Vic Solomon. You know, he made our NBA basketballs. Brought the trophy up here. Said he wanted to create something to incentivize Potter of the month. That shit look dope.

[B]

Whatever it is, we start with this.

[D]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Oh, that's fly. Oh, that's fly. But I repeat. Okay, okay.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Y' all niggas gotta play.

[A]

Y' all niggas gotta play.

[B]

Nah, y' all n. Gotta play.

[C]

What's going on?

[B]

He st. He. Get the out of here. Give me that. Go snatching that.

[C]

That heavy.

[B]

You got to wear that, boy. I'm saying feel it. Oh, and feel it. That heavy.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

That nuts. That.

[B]

This is fire. This is fire.

[C]

That is fire.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

Look at this. Oh, no. This is a joint. Are you crazy?

[C]

That fire. So shout. Shout to Vic for that.

[B]

Shout. Thanks, Vic.

[A]

Shout out to you, bro.

[B]

Thanks, Vic. That's funny. Sleep.

[C]

You gotta put that on, though.

[B]

My.

[A]

I mean, that should start this month. It's a stubborn. Yo, mark won this 19 times.

[C]

He just. He just sent it to me last month.

[A]

He got it.

[C]

He was like. And I told him, I'm gonna hold it to the next part of the month. No, it was the middle of the month.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[C]

So I said, I'm gonna hold it until we do the next part of the month, and then I'll, you know, present it to her.

[A]

All right. Do you at least have. Can you give a word? Yeah.

[C]

You gotta say something to the people.

[A]

Nah, you're not gonna wear it. Is there anything that you could say?

[C]

You know, you don't want me to say nothing, bro. Hold your thoughts.

[B]

All your thoughts.

[A]

And it's the exact opposite. I want you to. Please.

[D]

It's a podcast.

[C]

I'm good. Thank you. That's what y' all get. That's what y' all get.

[B]

I tell you one thing. It's consistent. He ain't with fraud. He don't do that. He said the same thing. When he win. When he don't win, all the voters out there, suck my dick.

[C]

I still don't fuck with y'.

[B]

All. Hey, yo, Simon DM me right now.

[A]

What they saying right now?

[B]

I'm gonna go to the bathroom and text it. N don't give a fuck about y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Simon DM me right now.

[A]

Simon still be sending you.

[C]

That ain't send me in a while.

[B]

He cursed. We cursed him out. We up his vlog. We. It all plugged up. Did he still have an. An account?

[C]

I have no idea.

[B]

He just stopped once the started, took the.

[D]

Out of his sp.

[A]

Al.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

I. I'm getting cursed out in the Internet streets for they bootleg patreon plug being dead, and I ain't got nothing to do with that.

[C]

Wait, what? Yeah, you was letting it rock. You've been saying like, I know what's happening.

[A]

I'm a fan of bootleggers, not the Patriot.

[B]

Come on. He.

[C]

Joe's been saying that he didn't give a.

[A]

About promo. Crazy.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I heard him say.

[A]

It, but come on, it's promo.

[B]

I ain't mad at that. You know where Ian from? He know what Ian back finding him.

[C]

Get this down now.

[B]

Simon. I'm finding that little ice. He a be like, simon, take that down now. We let it rock a little bit too much.

[A]

Yeah. No, they did not play that. They ended them. Yo, shout out to the hate listeners, man. I love you guys. I love you guys. And from this point forward, you are volunteering to be here. This is a choice that you are making to listen to somebody that you disagree with, hate, or just don't fuck with it all. But please, every listen counts. This shit is zooming. And I got big plans for 26. And part of that, that includes your listenership. All right.

[C]

We Got ice. Parks Court. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. We got Big Freeze. Come on. Elizabeth or Web. Rochdale. Wherever he's from. Wherever he's from. Fine. Elizabeth's finest. Big Chad in the building, huh? Checking that health app. Hey.

[C]

No, checking the help out.

[B]

You stop.

[C]

Stop laughing.

[B]

He bringing it back.

[A]

Oh, just move on. Yeah, sit him down, cuz. You play too much free.

[C]

What they got.

[B]

Sit down and you play.

[A]

You do a lot of joking around up here. Everything ain't a joke. Yo, Freeze.

[B]

Is that bad?

[A]

Everything funny.

[B]

Yo, ask my wife to check her step app the other day. She said 5,000 steps. Where did 2,000 of these came from? I'm on your time.

[C]

You're not on my time.

[B]

Oh, you on different time?

[C]

No. Cause I be home. I know what's happening in the house. So you definitely we on different times.

[B]

That's a shot.

[C]

It is a shot.

[B]

I'll be home as well.

[A]

You went home and worked on that? Just for you.

[C]

That ain't the one I wanted for you. That ain't the one I worked on.

[B]

Which one you worked on?

[C]

I got a clip.

[B]

Oh, for me?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Picking and choosing. Picking and choosing.

[A]

No.

[B]

Cause every.

[C]

I'm choosing you today.

[A]

You be bringing shit up. That ain't.

[C]

I'm choosing.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

I'm choosing you today.

[B]

I did the. Let me me know what I can say, then.

[A]

Let's get it. Let's go.

[B]

Parks. I'm on your ass now.

[C]

I'm.

[A]

I'm saying Parks don't check the step app at all. RB in France. Yo, you should check Rim Story. Rim is in Mountain living life, man. She's out of here. Parks just making a beat. Elm's finest. Big parks in the building.

[B]

What's popping?

[C]

What's popping? Parks, Big parks.

[A]

PO is here. Cory's here. Erickson is here. Tina and Saon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here. All right, come on, let's get right to it. Let's get to it. Well, is everybody feeling good?

[D]

We good?

[C]

Feeling great.

[A]

Feeling great. Feeling great. Let's get right to it.

[D]

Grammy time.

[A]

Grammy time.

[D]

Grammy time.

[A]

The Grammys.

[D]

Did everybody watch let's start with that?

[B]

Yes, sir, I did.

[C]

Yes. I watched the entire show. Okay, well, I ain't watched the entire show.

[A]

I seen a lot of it, though.

[C]

Okay, how.

[B]

How much?

[A]

How much?

[C]

You turned it over the middle? No, I was doing.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Much more than an hour or less than an hour? More than an hour.

[A]

We be bothering you, right? Tell the Truth, like, we just like a bother to you at 50. You outgrew this. Like you outgrew us. Outgrew the pot and us like everything. You changing the game. I saw the pregame. I saw the pre Grammy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I started 3:30 and I saw the Grammy intro. And then I had to turn back to the fourth quarter of the Knick game. And then when the game was over, I went back. So I missed the. The rookies, the new artists. I missed.

[C]

That was cool.

[D]

It wasn't as good as it was last year, but it was still pretty good.

[C]

I liked this shit.

[D]

I didn't like the girl that was in, like, the parking garage.

[C]

Yeah, that was weird to me. Start on the back of the truck and then. Yeah, I could have did without that one.

[D]

But the British girl, Lola Young, I never had heard of her. She had some. Some pipes on her.

[A]

And that's the girl that won later.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

I like the Olivia Dean. She did.

[D]

Olivia's amazing.

[C]

We know that.

[B]

Yeah. She's always and forever. It's my first time hearing.

[A]

You know, I'll be out of the loop like y'. All.

[B]

I'm not like y'. All.

[A]

It's my first time seeing her.

[B]

Okay, so we on the same page, Alex Warren.

[A]

No, we not on the same page because I have the album and love the album, but they got both. The album, too. I know how the girl look. She's beautiful. I was very happy to see. I don't see that Olivia Dean. I was very happy that that's who she was.

[C]

Say black girl.

[B]

I didn't look, Mark.

[A]

Anyway, go ahead, Parks.

[D]

I don't remember what the fuck.

[A]

Because I wasn't watching the rookie, so I have nothing to say here.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, that was.

[C]

That was.

[D]

That was cool. It wasn't as good as the last couple years, but that's not any fault of anybody. Leon bodied it. Leon and Olivia bodied it. And the British girl, Lola Young. Those. Those three went crazy.

[C]

And.

[D]

And the three of them won big awards. Shout out to Leon. He won R B album of the year. Yeah. And something else I should probably give, right? Yeah, he did.

[C]

He won two.

[A]

Yeah. Get the winners. Congratulations to Leon. Every. For the most part, everybody that I wanted to win one.

[D]

Most of my votes. Before it started, most of my votes won. That's why I watched the pregame. First of all, to that point, a lot of the awards that I give a fuck about were in the pregame, which is like R B album of the year, RB song of the year. Kehlani won big There rap not album, but song and rap performance, which was clips and Kendrick respectively. Trying to pull up the winners list here.

[C]

All right, so I got the winners list. R B performance was Kalani folded.

[A]

Well deserved.

[D]

Well deserved.

[C]

Traditional R and B performance. That's the other one that Leon Thomas won.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

Nice for vibes don't lock. Best R B song folded.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[C]

Progressive R B album bloom by Duran Bernard.

[D]

Oh, he bought his.

[A]

Yeah, I love this.

[C]

Best R B album, Leon Thomas Mutt. Best rap performance. Chains and whips clips featuring Kendrick Lamar, Pharrell.

[D]

Deservedly so.

[C]

Best melodic rap performance was Luther.

[D]

Deservedly so.

[C]

I. I agree. Best rap song was TV off.

[D]

I had Berzo sing there. But I'm not mad at TV off. Want to do.

[C]

I wasn't mad at anything as long as it was clips or Kendrick.

[D]

Same same.

[C]

Those kind of Best rap album was gnx.

[D]

Again, not mad at. I think I voted.

[C]

I wanted clips to win. I loved gnx so same. I'm pleased either way. As long as it was one of those things too.

[D]

Copia could have won too, and I wouldn't have been that upset.

[A]

I wanted clips to win, but as I was watching, I was like, oh, you saw it. It's still levels.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like hip hop had me want. Wanted the clips to win. I just felt like Kendrick, we got it. But once you see Doi up there presenting, it's just like, okay, you see Kendrick got dressed. Yeah, he really got dressed. So it's like. And you see that he's still there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because once he won early, I was like, okay, he wants to get the out of here. But once the show was going and he's still sitting there to like, you.

[C]

Know, you know what it was.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

And when I look back at the year before, it was all not like us. So I wasn't mad. Deserved to get a lot of the accolades that it did.

[A]

Did.

[D]

And clips got. Still got to win. So I'm not, I'm not tripping.

[A]

Yeah, same.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

As long as Cliff's got to win, I'm fine.

[D]

And they had a great performance as well.

[C]

We'll get. Yeah, they did get to the performances after.

[B]

I have thoughts on both, but yeah, go ahead. I just. If we talking about just the winners first again, I, I. There was no award that I was outraged by. There was nothing where I felt somebody. I. I think the word snub gets used too much just when somebody doesn't win. I really did not want Kendrick to get rap album of the year.

[D]

Really.

[B]

Well, let Me put it differently. I wanted clips to get rap album of the year. I just thought they really deserved it far more. But I don't think it was a bad choice. I just really was rooting for clips, that's all. Yes.

[C]

I think we all in the same.

[B]

Yeah, I think we all in the same boat. So that's the only award that I was just like, really, really frustrated by. Or not frustrated.

[A]

So we not all the same. Cause I am not frustrated with Kendrick winning that one.

[C]

Oh, no, I wasn't frustrated. I think. Think I'm agreeing with you.

[B]

I think disappoint is a bad one.

[A]

I wanted. I just.

[C]

I felt like seeing them everywhere. Everything that they did, as great as the album was it being a comeback album. Every. It seemed like all the stars were in alignment for them to win.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And when it didn't happen, I was just like, damn, to come back. I'm sorry. But to lose to GNX is still. They weren't snubbed. This is not good, kid. Mad City losing to Macklemore.

[A]

This isn't.

[C]

This that. This is still a great album. One best rap album of the year.

[D]

I did love Billy Eilish winning song of the year.

[A]

Really, I did.

[D]

And I like her a lot. And I like Phineas a lot. My problem was that song came out on an album in 2000. It was in the last Grammy cycle, but then they released it as like a video and a single, so it get eligible for this. And I just don't think it was the best song of the year. I think Bad Bunny should have won that one too.

[C]

There was a jig in there.

[A]

Well, Billie Eilish was gonna get one.

[D]

And I'm not mad. And I loved her speech, so I'm not. I'm not mad at it. And I like them both. I just thought that that was a weird technicality. That shouldn't be.

[A]

Yeah, but it's. It's. Yeah. The record. Because they pushed it as a single. It charted the whole year.

[D]

Right.

[A]

So it was tough for them to not. It's still cultural. There's a phrase for it. Cultural.

[D]

Currency.

[C]

Relevance.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's what. That's what I'm trying to say.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like, even though it was released last year.

[D]

Yeah. Again, I also just think the Bad Bunny song was the song of the year for me, personally.

[B]

I agree.

[D]

And album One album of the year. So I'm. I'm still not all the way mad. It's fine.

[A]

What did you guys think? I know we're a little all over the place. What did you guys think of Trevor Noah this year as a host? His intro, the jokes. What did you think of the Nicki Minaj name drop? What did you think of him standing next to Kendra? Even though that came later with the. With the Drake shit where Kendrick looked a little uncomfortable? Just what did you think of Trevor Noah during the evening as a whole? He did it six times in a row. This is his last time doing it.

[C]

I think because it was his last time. They intended for the jokes to be a little bit more edgy. And I don't want to say cringy, but it's like going out with a bang type shit. Like, I'm going to say the things that y' all are thinking that I probably wouldn't have said before. And we can hide it under this is my last time doing it.

[B]

Thought he did great.

[D]

I don't think it was his best.

[C]

I was just about.

[B]

Six in a row is hard.

[C]

I don't think it was his best outing. It was a little.

[D]

When he was standing next to Bieber. Bieber looked like he was ready to swing up.

[C]

It was a little blot on me. Everybody that he really outside. Even. I think even the Bad Bunny shit. Bad Bunny was playing into it. But he kind of was like, when he started.

[D]

I like that they smoked that way.

[C]

It turned out dope. Yeah, it turned out. Initially, it didn't look. But initially Bad Bunny was looking like, yo, Spam. And then he just was like, it ain't gonna go away. He just kept speaking Spanish and it was like, oh, okay. And I leaned into it. But in the beginning, even that part didn't look. Kendrick looked okay.

[D]

Kendrick looked.

[A]

Just for the record, that was a setup. That's not how that happened. Like, the whole thing that you say. No, it didn't.

[C]

Because the band came out, so it had to be evidently planned. But that the optics of it looked like it's supposed to, though.

[D]

I think it was supposed to. And I think that Bad Buddy has actors, so he was probably into character. So I'm not. So I'm not sure. I thought that was actually one of the funnier.

[A]

Yeah. Trevor. No. Even knowing all that to a T like that said that real. Yeah, that was. That was impressive to me. That was impressive. That blazer that Bad Bunny had on was me on the back.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Absolutely. Absolutely sickening.

[D]

Him and Kendrick's fits were fire. The simple, but fire.

[C]

Kendrick looked nice.

[A]

Kendrick was. That was absolutely sickening, too. Damn. I wish I could shout out who styled Bad Bunny. I'll look for it later. But did y' all see Kendrick's left hand with the boxer on it?

[D]

Yeah, I didn't.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Was that fashion or.

[D]

I think. I think he be trading his hand.

[C]

Up look like Ace bandage or something.

[B]

It was.

[C]

Looked like an injury. It didn't look like.

[B]

To me.

[C]

It didn't look like an injury. It looked like the. Like he just took a boxing glove off. How you have your hand wrapped like the knuckles are Patty it. That's what I'm.

[A]

That's what. That's.

[C]

It wasn't just your hand power picking his head.

[B]

It's all. All that say something. You saying something.

[A]

Kendrick be intentional. That. That on his hand just seemed like it was there for.

[C]

I. I agree.

[D]

Shia Perelli, I think, was the designer of Bad Bunnies.

[A]

Chef's Kiss. Yeah, that shows Chef's Kiss. If I were the clips, because I thought that they look marvelous. I love that mob salmon. And a lot of groups showed up and dressed the same, so I'm. I'm fine with that. No way I'd have let Pharrell put that same on. And we walk out like triplets looking like the Delphonics.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

No, I like that too. Nah, no way in world it looks like a Delphonics.

[C]

She had the pearls with the widow.

[A]

There's no way on earth. No way on earth do I let him do that Because y' all wasn't dressed the same on stage.

[C]

True. All that white he had on was.

[A]

Fire, who had on Pharrell.

[C]

And that's.

[A]

And that's part of my point was fire. So if you're gonna do that. And then he had the coat on on stage. He looked absolutely amazing. Everybody did. But I'm saying we ain't dressed the same now. You wouldn't put that on. Take this shit off while we on the record. Are you crazy now? You're doing it enough now.

[C]

No, it's crazy. Crazy. Pharrell's so skinny that that just hangs. That just looks amazing. We all got the same shit on. You gonna look better in your. Nah, fuck that. Pharrell's tiny, bro. That shit looked amazing on him.

[A]

No way on earth I would have let him walk in. If I was a clip.

[B]

He would have got Eclipse.

[A]

That would not have happened at all. Yeah, he would have had to go change. Also, Pharrell at the podium.

[B]

Stop working. Stop.

[A]

Doing anything else but working. Work, man. I'm with him because when you.

[C]

When I'm 52, I get to do.

[A]

This Every day I love what I do. And if you do what you love.

[C]

Every day, you'll get paid for free.

[A]

Dog. I'm sick of Pharrell, for real. Something about him really just irks me. That's what you went up there and said, Chad, huh? All this shit going on in the fucking world. We already got you on camera in the last six, seven months saying stupid shit. Yo, they came up with a cool little phrase. It's two words.

[C]

Ice out.

[A]

Or they came up with some shit if you didn't know. And you get up there with this, yo, do what you love. Work harder. Go to work harder.

[C]

Work harder.

[A]

Go to work. Like, shut the fuck up, Pharrell. I was disappointed by a lot of sickening.

[D]

A lot of artists. Not saying he's sickening, though.

[A]

Enough of him.

[B]

You're not wrong. I just given what he's prone to say, I'd rather him not talk about nothing than to talk about some shit and say something crazy.

[A]

I agree. But then get up there and say something meaningful besides this bullshit generic. This just sound like it's out the crunching munchbox.

[B]

You say, use the moment. Use the moment, dog.

[A]

Say you are Pharrell. Niggas look up to you.

[B]

This is the big. The clips is back.

[A]

You up there.

[C]

You put the same fucking suit on.

[A]

Nigga say something. And this is you.

[C]

Impact. This wasn't just a album award you got.

[A]

Yo, go to work. I love what I do.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I'm sick of.

[B]

For real.

[A]

But anyway. Anyway. Sorry about that. That was my little. I'm just. He's sticking to me now. Like, if he ain't on the MP.

[C]

Or the Triton or some or whatever.

[A]

The he make a beat on or doing the Louis Runway. Cause this season is fly. He's just a weirdo. These a weirdo.

[D]

He's not the greatest at speaking, but I did like the keep working thing. I did like that. That messaging.

[B]

I I damn. To keep. The older I get, the more to keep working. Listen, man resonates with me. I. I get it.

[A]

Like, what do you want me to do? As I found.

[B]

But I wish he would have said something. Some niggas don't feel like jeopardizing their relationships. I'm not saying that's what it is.

[C]

But stand on the other side.

[B]

Yeah, some n stand on the other side. So if you have nothing to say positive, don't say nothing at all. That's we A lot of he might have said, go ice. You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, I agree with Y', all.

[A]

I'm saying he's a weirdo for that, and I'm a weirdo, so.

[C]

I mean, everybody's their own version of weird.

[A]

I don't want to be in the room, that weirdo room.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's another thing. I thought a lot throughout the night, like, just looking at the room, honestly.

[C]

I could hang with a bunch of these.

[A]

You. Yo, this is a different universe with some of these niggas that's in this room.

[D]

Yo, that's why I like the early show, because that's usually like, the cool people, like the songwriters and producers are up there giving the speech, and I kind of rock with them. I can hang out with them. That roommate, the super rich stars. I don't want to hang out with y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

Most of them.

[A]

I went to the Grammys when, When, whenever Pump it up was nominated and I went and I looked a mess. But just the experience of being there, like some people have heard me say before, that's not for me. Unless you are winning and you got a call that said you won. And even that is some niggas that and probably won. Ever go back to the Grammys?

[D]

If you were the cool seats at the front with the little circle tables, that's cool. If you anywhere else, you said that was horrible.

[A]

You know.

[B]

You know by what he said. I don't. I couldn't imagine me saying this, but I was pleased with. With what Billy Eilish said and what this did. Now that he's saying it like that. You know what I mean?

[C]

A lot of people, Olivia Dean, Bad.

[D]

Bunny, Billy Eilish, Kalani, for sure.

[B]

A lot of people, that shit was fire.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

They used that moment, shout out to people, say, no business.

[C]

But then being that you won me with the type of award that you won, you were supposed to get up there and talk about hip hop history or black music, whatever the case may be. He got up there. But a lot of people want to, yo, don't quit, do the work. Don't quit, don't quit, do the work. So I guess he might have resonated that. But being who he is, he could have gave something a little better.

[B]

Better? Yeah.

[C]

Especially in the war that it was. He could have gave something better.

[B]

That's a Dr. Dre award, too. So it's kind of like. I mean, I like that he shouted out Chop called Quest and talked about the impact of Q Tip in particular on him. I thought that part was dope. But, yeah, I liked him to pivot to something bigger than that. But this is not who he is. So I don't expect much from the bull.

[A]

But, yeah, yeah, I'm saying that with the jellyfishes on. I was thinking. I was thinking.

[C]

I wasn't gonna say it, though.

[A]

I was like, yo, hey, I put a disclaimer in the front of this. That should clear me. It's your man Jelly Roll on the red carpet from what's happening. And Jelly Roll's my man.

[D]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

You know, I'm a dumb redneck.

[C]

I haven't watched enough. I didn't have a phone for 18 months. I've had one for four months and don't have social media. I'm. I hate to be the artist that static aloof, but I just. I've become so disconnected from what's happening, and I'm just not a. I grew up in a house of, like, insane pandemonium and, like. Like, I didn't even know politics were fucking real until I was in my mid-20s in jail.

[D]

Like, that's how disconnected. When you grow up in a drug addict household. You think we, like, have common calls.

[C]

About what's happening in world politics? Like, we're just trying to find a way to survive, man, you know? And I have a lot to say.

[A]

About it, and I'm going to in.

[C]

The next week, and everybody's going to hear it. Exactly what I have to say about it in the most loud and clear way I've ever spoke in my life. So I look forward to it. Thank you for bringing it up.

[D]

He pulled the city, sweetie.

[C]

He fucked himself in the last three sentences. I was rocking with him the whole time until he said them last three sentences. He said, dog, like, basically, politics is not something I do right? And so you could get away with that? He said, yo, how I grew up, Politics wasn't in my house. What you talking about? And at the very end, you said. And he said, yo, I'm a dumb redneck. I don't know nothing about politics. But at the very end, he said, yo, I got something to say. And I'm gonna tell y' all next week how I feel about which one is it, My nigga, you don't know what's going on in the political world or you got a lot to say and you wanna be as lacking.

[D]

I got a lot to say.

[C]

Nah, see, I took that something totally different. I had no idea. I've been informed myself. But I also wanna make this statement. Not here. I wanna make this statement. I have some people say I wanna do it on my own. Platform on my own terms. Cool. So I think. I think he's gotten some more information and now I'm ready to speak on it, but just not right here. I wanna gather my thoughts so that I can't say the wrong thing, get taken out of context. Let me do it in the way that I know how, when I'm ready to. And it will be soon. I'm not gonna keep y' all waiting forever next week.

[B]

So now we're gonna wait for the big Jelly Roll political.

[C]

I'm just for people that wanna hear it from them. You're gonna wait and hear it whenever you hear it.

[B]

Yeah. And I think that's. If you're not gonna do it in the moment where it matters, which is the Grammys, then it's just. Just Jelly Roll talking.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

I don't give a.

[B]

What Jelly Roll thinks outside the gr. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

My grandm. I get it. I know this. I know the.

[A]

The.

[C]

The.

[D]

He knows his fan bases on that side and.

[C]

No, no, no, no. But I know what's going on here and I know the sentiment in this room overwhelmingly is lean in one way. So I'm not going to get up there with my first Grammys and now say some. That's anti. Well, that was red carpet, right?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

This is before the show, but I.

[A]

Think that he absolutely, absolutely smoked his speech.

[B]

Yeah, I like the speech too.

[A]

His speech was 21. His speech was a nice.

[C]

He killed it.

[A]

Middle line of I'm about Jesus and you ain't got to be. You could be from.

[C]

It's for everybody.

[A]

For all. I With Jelly Roll shout out to Manili. Congratulations.

[C]

But then you. But then you know the Internet going. Internet.

[A]

I know. They found him with Christy. No.

[C]

So they went by him with 2024. How great of a person he is, and blah, blah, blah, blah. You politically tied. You can't say you don't know nothing about politics.

[D]

Yeah, it's tough.

[A]

All right. The optics is bad. But anyway, we back to celebrating music. Yeah, back to celebrating music. What else?

[D]

What else?

[A]

Come on, let's do Lauryn Hill.

[B]

I just had to come to Jesus moment. I was about to say, listen, you.

[C]

Will never get no more slander out of me. You can get there as late as you want if you want to do this. I don't give a. When you get there. I. I was damn near in the crib standing up, quite. Clapping that entire performance. That might have been my favorite performance the whole night.

[B]

That was fire the Roberta flag.

[C]

The Whole.

[D]

That part was great. The d' Angelo part. I hated how they, like. It was like two bars of performance for everybody. It was like.

[C]

It's a lot of.

[D]

It was a lot of.

[A]

The whole thing.

[C]

B went crazy.

[A]

So let's slow down for a minute. We speeding. Let's slow down. Freeze.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Tell me more about this, because this has been.

[B]

I know.

[C]

I'm just saying, like, she. She went up there.

[A]

What did she do?

[C]

She sounded great. She looked great. She like, again, Lauryn Hill. She sang the fuck out of the songs where she was singing it made me feel like, damn, yo, I don't even. I shouldn't be slandering you like this. So what, you come late if this the show you put on. I've seen Lauryn Hill perform. I was at Roots Picnic. When she's up there doing other versions of songs, they didn't sound the same way. I've seen people at her shows say, yo, she's supposed to have a real.

[A]

Conversation about this speaker and mic set up at Roots Picnic.

[C]

Let me. I'm not even talking about. I'm talking about the actual beat that she's playing to. She's not even playing to the song. I've seen.

[D]

She changes the tempos.

[C]

The whole song sounds different version of X Factor.

[D]

Yeah, but you've only got one album. You got to figure out how to make this interesting for 35 years.

[C]

Not. Not when your album is that. Not when it's the number one album of all time. And, no, you don't.

[D]

I get it, but I also get why she would want to change.

[A]

Change it.

[C]

I get it for other reasons, too. But. But anyway, I'm not. I'm off that.

[A]

Janet Jackson does the same thing at her shows, like a lot of them.

[C]

Do, but everybody don't have the. Also have the negative track record that Lauryn Hill.

[D]

A lot of people do that. And I've been to shows with legacy acts where they play, like, with bands and they play it exactly like a cd. And that is boring, too.

[C]

I'm just speaking for Lauren and how I. In my stage. I think she did amazing at that. And again, it made me. I was like, damn, all right, cool. You won me over when you performed this well. And y' all smoked that shit that way. You won me over, so I'm cool.

[B]

And I thought every performer, for the most part, bodied. It sounded good.

[D]

October London spoke, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who did October?

[B]

October London smoked. I saw it. Lucky day.

[D]

Lucky smoke, too.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, and he had Raphael Siddiko. You had from the basis. Luther.

[D]

Marcus Miller.

[B]

Mar. Mar. Marcus.

[D]

Marcus Miller.

[B]

Marcus Miller, yeah. You had him on stage. I'm sorry, I didn't hear you had Marcus Miller up there. I mean, you had some legends up there. Rafael Siddiq, just subtly in the background, just getting busy. You know what I mean? I thought it was great. Shaka Khan. I was out there. All that legend. Another legend. John Legend. With. With Shaka Shaka. Didn't sound exactly the way I wanted.

[D]

Their voices. Certain voices aren't good, like, collaboratively or like stacking it up.

[B]

The marriage isn't. Well, yeah. Shot could look good, though.

[D]

If you have too much, like, vibrato and character in your voice, it doesn't mesh well a lot of times, unless you're the definitive lead in. The other persons are backgrounds.

[A]

I love John Legend. I do feel like we need to find more pianists.

[D]

He didn't play piano. Yeah, it was John Batist.

[A]

Got it. My point.

[C]

He ain't got to be there. We can get somebody else to lose. He sounded good, though.

[B]

Every time.

[C]

He always sound good.

[B]

All right, Joe. What's up, man?

[A]

Yeah, come on.

[B]

You got something to say, man?

[A]

Actually, I do have something. For the people that were privileged enough to see Bilal, Phillies fires, Village Underground, just on a random Sundays. Boy, were we. Were we blessed. That's what I was thinking while I was watching this blow.

[B]

I to was going incredible.

[D]

Eddie showed people that maybe when she.

[C]

I didn't know, I forgot all about him. When she said his name, I was like, they couldn't have found nobody better.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Pull this off.

[D]

His contemporaries.

[C]

I forgot all about Bilal. Yeah, right. Think. All right. No, I forgot when she said a name, I said, oh, he about to go crazy.

[B]

He's a singer.

[C]

And he went crazy to go crazy.

[B]

He was the Blue Dog a couple months ago and bodied. It just. I mean, people from all over come to see him. Like singers I'm talking about just because he's so special.

[C]

He's him.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Bilal is different. And he sound. And he sounded great, and he looked great.

[C]

He sounded amazing, bro.

[B]

And then when I. I love that they ended it with Killing Me Softly first. The. The version I like more than y' all do.

[C]

Clef looked amazing.

[B]

Roberta Flax, Roberta Flags version. But then when Clef came out and they did that, the Fugees version, Clef killed it. They. They killed. The crowd was rocking that. That was the perfect way to end it to me.

[C]

Perfect. I agree.

[B]

Yeah, perfect. You know, that was my favorite performance in the night.

[C]

Mine, too.

[D]

Yeah, mine, too.

[B]

Why you keep looking at me about the performance, man? How do you feel about Lawrence performance?

[A]

How do you feel? I absolutely loved it. Okay? Everything that y' all saying, I agree. Why y' all making my opinion out to be something different?

[B]

N. Cuz it looked like.

[C]

It just looked like it was.

[A]

No, he looking like that, y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

He always look like that.

[B]

What is you a rat bastard? They putting your shit on me?

[C]

You, too, nigga.

[A]

No, you know what my face is? My face face is. That's the Lauren I known since Lauren came out.

[C]

My face. My face is. Lauren didn't even sound like Lauren can sound.

[A]

Yeah, because Lauren went to the Gamma after party and was doing X Factor live sounding like the record. So.

[C]

I've been watching that girl sing since high school. She can get 10 times busier than that. So when Ice was saying, yo, if that's what she gonna do, I'm like, Ice, to me.

[A]

Yeah, I'm looking at that wasn't even the best Lauren.

[C]

How she hosted it and facilitated it and all of that was a monster. Lauren can sing a thousand times better than that, and she still bodied it Quick.

[A]

Sidebar. Sister Act. Did y' all see homeboy on? Did y' all see. Oh, happy. Yeah. Did y' all see him on Tank's podcast talking about how on Sister act, he thought he had a shot with Lauryn Hill, like he had a crush on her. And then one day, her boyfriend came to the set. Her boyfriend was Omar Epps, Fresh out of juice.

[C]

Yeah, I knew that.

[A]

Like, fresh off juice.

[B]

Yeah, that'll fuck your whole up. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Yo, but they were sitting there talking about. It was hilarious.

[D]

Yo, I got you.

[A]

That would humble the shit out you. Yeah.

[C]

What? Fresh off juice, too. That Omar, he. That was something to deal with. That was something to deal with back then.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

He got us up out of there, all of us.

[C]

I mean, Raheem held us down a.

[A]

Little bit, but that Omar came through. I was like, what now? Y' all making me want to see if I can find it for y'. All. No, it is that funny.

[C]

Yeah, I believe you.

[A]

I didn't mean to derail us. I'm coming right back in with my thoughts about Justin Bieber's. Justin Bieber's performance.

[D]

You like Biebs and the Undies?

[A]

I fuck with Biebs.

[B]

Me, too.

[A]

I fuck with Beebs. I like that first, and they won me over.

[D]

Huh?

[C]

You don't like the song?

[A]

Yeah, but I just like it more.

[D]

Now because it's about from the performance.

[C]

Oh, the boxers did it for you.

[A]

Go ahead, get your off. Get the off.

[C]

We flew out to la, met a young Lauryn Hill. We hit it off because we was the only two kids from Jersey, and me, her, and Jennifer Love Hewitt were the only real high school students in the cast. Everybody else was older. Everybody else was grown too. Oh, okay. Toned it for Love Hewitt.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow. So we all would go to tutoring and stuff.

[A]

Got the call forward and shit.

[C]

Look at a young Omar Epps.

[A]

Lauryn Hill over at the Oakwoods, boy.

[C]

Man, I had a crush on her. And you know what broke my heart? Her real dude came to visit one time. You know who it was?

[A]

Who?

[B]

Omar Epps.

[A]

Yeah, that's the Juice, nigga. You couldn't compete. You couldn't compete, bro.

[D]

He was out of your league.

[C]

You couldn't compete.

[A]

Yeah, that's a spake out. The nigga. It's the guy. It's the guy got off Juice. Oh, my God. What could I do? What?

[B]

You see what they talking about the.

[A]

End of the movie.

[C]

Got the juice now. Fresh off Juice.

[B]

Fresh.

[A]

He was the one.

[B]

You lost that battle.

[A]

Oh, I lost.

[C]

I ain't going to lie.

[B]

That's.

[C]

You wasn't even in the fight. You wasn't even in the fight.

[A]

He was the belt.

[C]

You can look at a young Omar.

[A]

Abs and be like that little N Savage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I garnered a lot of respect for.

[C]

Him that day and just understood like, okay, you got to take what you want.

[D]

It's levels to the. My dude.

[B]

La la la la la la la la la la.

[C]

No Happy day that day.

[A]

My.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You crazy.

[A]

So Justin Bieber got on stage in his boxers and performed spot.

[C]

But before you even get there, I was lost. Cause they pissed me off. Cause they kept taunting the performance like, yo, it's gonna be the one that everybody's talking about for this is gonna be the.

[B]

It was.

[C]

It wasn't that.

[A]

It wasn't.

[C]

It wasn't that.

[D]

It was. It was a good performance and a lot of people talk about it.

[C]

I'm adjusting.

[B]

I like how he sounded.

[C]

I'm a Justin Bieber fan.

[A]

Same, I guess.

[C]

It sounded good.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I was lost with the.

[D]

The boxers.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You got up there in your boxes. The looked mad sad and somber. That Yukon song is not that type of song. You know what I'm saying? You getting up there, you making the beat with your foot in your hand. That was cool.

[D]

He's on his ed Sheer and shit.

[C]

I was just. He sounded amazing.

[D]

I thought it was cool. Boxers aside, I was a little worried that he might pop out.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

That's what your mind was.

[D]

Yeah, I was there. Like, please don't pop out, bro.

[A]

Please don't pop out. My thing with Justin Bieber recently or for the better part of a few years now is every time you see him, it look like it's a cry for help.

[C]

Yes, he said. I agree. I think he leaning into that. And that's my problem. Like, dog, him getting up there with them boxers on to me sounded. It looked like a. Yeah, like a sympathetic plea.

[A]

It looked like he wanted to tell us something.

[B]

Trouble.

[C]

Yeah, I'm troubled. I swear that's how I felt, bro. I'm not. But he won't tell us more inside than that.

[A]

He leave it up to us to guess. Like, they zapped the joy out of this little nigga.

[C]

Yeah, bro.

[A]

Like. Like, it's just right, that song. That song. You supposed to have, like, some confidence when you sing it. You bagging bright.

[C]

It's bright. Couple cute chicks. He up there in his drawers in the dark.

[A]

In the dark. Just come on, man. What happened? Tell us.

[C]

I.

[B]

No, I thought it was n. I.

[C]

I just think he was just doing too much with that.

[A]

He ain't been the same since they made him do them push ups. He ain't been the same since they made him do those push ups, man.

[D]

I don't know if he want anything. He kind of got snubbed. That was a. That was a very good album. I don't know where he would have wanted.

[C]

That was a good album, bro.

[D]

I would have been mad if he would have have snuck one.

[C]

And it sounded like. And you know, I ain't the music guy. And it sounded like all that wasn't even mixed.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And it still was good. That was a good ass album. He ain't get nominated for nothing.

[A]

Yeah. Don't be taking me Parks and Ice lingo out of here. When you talk to other people, too. I don't know what that like, when you talk about records being mixed and all of that. Do that up here. Lounge. Like, you hear the mix on this.

[C]

I looked at the mixology and to get a confirmation, I think you did sound.

[A]

You did good.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That ain't sound.

[A]

I agree with you.

[D]

Like, it felt a little bit like unfinished records.

[A]

A little. Exactly.

[D]

But I liked it a lot.

[C]

That UConn song wasn't even nominated.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's kind of crazy.

[B]

That's nuts.

[D]

It's kind of crazy.

[C]

I was.

[D]

I was speaking of moments to say something and they didn't say something. Post Malone covering War Pigs and no one up there saying nothing was also kind of crazy. The song is War Pigs, Dog.

[B]

Right.

[D]

And Rest in Peace, Ozzy Osborne. I guess maybe in interest of not messing up, messing with the family and the emotions of the family, you didn't want to do that.

[C]

Yeah, because they were emotional.

[D]

They were deservely so. Rest in Peace, Ozzy Osborne. I don't know if we even said that in the pod. Hopefully we did. A legend. A legend. But that was a great performance. They bought it.

[C]

They bought it.

[D]

I just thought it was a moment where you could have.

[A]

What y' all think of that Bruno Mars performance?

[D]

Both of them were ass. He performed twice. He did the opening song with the K Pop girl, and then that was ass. I didn't like it.

[B]

I didn't like anything he did. I didn't even like his. The shots to him in the audience.

[C]

The crowd shot, bro, he looked a little.

[B]

He looked like. He looked a little like that book of shit on, nigga. He was mad.

[C]

He was mad.

[B]

That's how he looked. I don't know what he was, but I tell you how he looked.

[C]

Eclipse was there.

[A]

What you talking about?

[D]

Was he sitting next to him?

[C]

That's why he was mad. Put me there. I need to be at that table. Oh, man.

[B]

What's that song with the name?

[A]

What do you guys think of Bruno Mars?

[B]

I think he good, but we didn't like his I love Bruno Lackluster performances. He looked like he may not have been fully invested in the moment.

[C]

I like the first performance and he looked like he was performing for the niggas. That's invested in him standing on the side of the stage. That's what it looked like. That's what he looks like. Honestly, I wanna get this shit over with.

[B]

Like that kid in the meme that.

[C]

He dancing for right there. Niggas said, yo, you getting paid. Wait, we getting paid? Like, it looked like he was nervous. They was putting the camera on him. He was like.

[B]

You know we're gonna be watching you at the Grammys.

[C]

No, we there. We your plus ones. It look like that.

[A]

Like he another one. I love him and I fuck with him, but how many times I'm supposed to see him with the 70 with the band? And how many times do I have to look at it?

[C]

So we had that talk when the record came out, and y' all was kind of saying that I Did say that when I saw the second performance, like, all right, I'm tired of this look now, you don't gotta do this.

[D]

But that record isn't even like so explicitly 70s.

[C]

It didn't call for that.

[A]

That's what made it weird.

[B]

It did. It did.

[A]

Cause you could have vibed out to this song. You got a little bop.

[C]

You could have. Then you went right to the 70s again. And I was like, they were right. That's what I said to myself. I'm like, yeah, the guys was right.

[B]

He don't want to show them he buying new shit.

[A]

From last album.

[C]

Hey, Rocco. Hey, Rocco. This is my old Rocc.

[B]

I got the old man.

[C]

I pay them. They doing this on stream.

[A]

They did look like they was back there doing it on the stream. That was a mess. And I.

[B]

With Bruno.

[A]

But telling you what, this real.

[B]

You.

[C]

You really you.

[D]

I like this album comes out Friday too.

[A]

What album?

[C]

Friday.

[A]

Bruno.

[C]

Bruno's way, I believe so.

[B]

It's not right. We said like next month. Like a month ago. I just. The time be moving.

[A]

Well, he's gonna be fine. So. I mean. I mean, not even Bruno Mars. Let's not get crazy.

[C]

He's gonna be dropping with Cole.

[A]

The tour is selling out.

[D]

Oh, I mean, correct. 27th. Okay. I thought it was. I thought it was.

[C]

Bruno could care less about Cole. I'm just saying, numbers wise for the number one. Who get the number one.

[A]

That's a conversation fight.

[B]

You think that's a conversation?

[C]

I don't. Yes, I do. I absolutely.

[B]

What's the conversation?

[A]

Freeze.

[C]

I think I'm on your side.

[B]

Oh, we on the same side.

[C]

I'm just saying they. I don't think you call. It's different, bro.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think J has a sure shot at a number one, depending. I don't think anybody's gonna drop with him.

[D]

And not for nothing, the double disc. Wait, put him in that. I'm. I'm with y'. All. But. But being a double disc, it might push him a little bit closer. I don't know.

[C]

Right now, outside of your Adele, Taylor. Outside of them. Bruno's in that sphere. No, he not.

[B]

He also not in the J. Cole sphere.

[C]

Do you know what that song listen was?

[B]

I don't know about Adele, but I ain't working with nobody named Bruno.

[C]

You know what that apt song did? What did it do?

[D]

A bazillion, gazillion.

[C]

You know what the apt song is? Yeah, of course. That's the record that they started. They started the show with. Yes, that song Song is massive. It is. It is like different massive.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I. No disrespect to call. Yeah, it's different, bro. However, last. Last album, 24 Carat Magic. First week sales was 231, 000.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You telling me Cold. That ain't cold number. You telling me Cole can't do 230?

[D]

That'll change a lot.

[C]

I didn't say he can't debute at 231.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So my point is fight back, Freeze.

[C]

So my.

[B]

So my point is sold over 6.55 though.

[C]

I'm talking about that I've changed a lot for him.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I'm specifically speaking on the first week. I'm saying them dropping on the same day, there would be a fight for number one. I don't think it's going to be a blow out of the water for number one. I would. I would gladly check the backboard on fire. That was a good album.

[D]

It was a great.

[C]

I forgot the name of it, but off. I think one song. I think I.

[B]

282. Is it 2021? The off season.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Off season.

[B]

Yeah. 282.

[C]

2, 200.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, I don't know. 282.

[D]

What did whatchamacall do? Silk Sonic.

[C]

I'll check that one.

[A]

Silk Sonic ain't do nothing.

[C]

60 grand. No, I did some numbers that. But we didn't like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't love the record, but it sold 104,000 first.

[A]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[C]

So again, to my point.

[B]

Okay, I see what Freeze is saying. I see what you say.

[C]

Okay. I see what you're saying on the first week numbers. That's what I said.

[B]

I need to see more influence.

[C]

Y' all move my argument. I literally said them two dropping on the first.

[B]

First day probably dropped for one day.

[A]

Freeze shut down. Ish mark. So Freeze is right. Yeah. Bow down.

[B]

All right. Take the chain, Freeze.

[C]

Yo, she want somebody get that chain.

[B]

No, no, I earn it. I earn my.

[A]

Wait, you earned yours? Yeah, he got on a nasty slow. It was a nasty one. If he ain't going to rep it, you might well sit on. It was an ass moment. Yeah, that month was horrible that you won.

[B]

That don't even count, man. Hey, dj, that's a bubble. Bubble championship. Yeah, they playing with my son. Lockout year, man. This don't count.

[A]

Oh, man, that's up, man.

[B]

He giving it to you then I'm just. No, I know how much that chain mean. The issue. I'm not going to take.

[C]

Don't mean nothing to me. Oh, you knew how much it meant. They trying to go ahead.

[B]

Just cross them off the next.

[C]

I'm not. I ain't going to say nothing, cuz that's what they want. They want some clips. I ain't going.

[B]

You know, we put the. Put the Scully on.

[C]

He different boy.

[D]

I do want to quickly highlight Tyler's performance, cuz that was amazing. I love that. Him staying in character, laying on the ground, all that.

[C]

Afterwards the security walked over. Yeah.

[B]

He said, yo, yo, yo.

[C]

All right, go to commercial.

[D]

He smoked that. He's one of the best live performers we have in music, period.

[A]

Tyler's performance on stage was crazy. And Tyler's performance in the audience, crazy for Kendrick. And clips. And the clips. Yeah, Like, I love that. That's what I mean about just the energy in that building. Yo, that video was. That video was hard to watch. Almost like he provided the energy.

[D]

But yes, everyone else should be, too.

[A]

Yeah, man. Shout out to Tyler.

[C]

Shout out.

[A]

And he looked great, too. He looked great, too.

[C]

He did.

[D]

Overall, how'd you feel about the show? I thought it was not my favorite, like, overall show, but I think they did really good with the awards.

[C]

The Grammys, the. That I cared about. They did, right? It was good. So I'm cool.

[D]

We've seen weird soundtracks and went album of the year.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, Bad Bunny, to me, had a cultural defining album and should have won and did.

[C]

I knew he was going. I knew. When they announced the last Latin album award. I've never seen them announce this award on television ever. And then when I realized he's still there, I said, oh, okay. This is Bad Bunny's night. He's winning album of the year. They setting it up. Super bowl next week. I got it. This is the run.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And well deserved. I'm not knocking, but. But some. Some of these things. You could see the play.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

And he used the moment.

[D]

He did.

[B]

He used the body the moment. His speech was amazing.

[C]

He did. And I. Part of me thinks that's why that's. That also played into. I think they knew certain people was going to get up there and do. Seize the moment.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

So we can't do it as a network or as a whatever, but I know you going to do it.

[A]

Right. And.

[C]

And I'm going to give you the Runway to do it. Because if it was the other way around, they made sure he wouldn't have won.

[D]

True.

[A]

Shout out to Shaboozi winning. Congratulations to. To him. First. First black dude to win. Whatever that country category was that he.

[B]

Won the black country category.

[D]

Yeah, kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, kind of.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The colored section, he another one. They. They on his ass. They on his ass for that little speech.

[D]

Why? What he say?

[A]

He said that immigrants built this country.

[D]

Oh, they did.

[B]

Along with black people. Slave Africans.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Slaves are not.

[B]

I mean, it's always got to add that when immigrants.

[C]

I mean immigrants were voluntary or involuntary?

[B]

Both. And I'm glad he said that. He needed to say that. He needed to say that. Good shit. Happy Black History Month, y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

You disagree?

[A]

Yo. Yeah.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah, I think there's a lot of context missing to happen. Y' all ain't gonna trick me into having the FBA conversation. Right? Cause that's what they gonna say I'm doing. I'm not gonna do it.

[B]

Well, I've known it when I say that.

[A]

Yeah, but you spread that, and then they put that out there.

[B]

Well, if you say whatever you say, I'm not gonna say it this time.

[A]

I'm not saying nothing. They got.

[C]

Got him.

[A]

They got him, I think. And I'm not mad at him. I think those are great words. I think those were great words and a great message. I don't think he was intending to offend anybody or make anybody mad, but to say that he should have said some more. Just said some more.

[C]

He grouped it all together, and you can't do that. That's what the problem.

[A]

Slaves, not immigrants. Ish. You keep looking at me. That's la.

[C]

Did you hear what I said? I said whether voluntary or involuntary. So the involuntary people were slaves that were stolen and bought here? Me and Mark said, yes. Well, the voluntary.

[A]

But that's the only thing they're killing. That's it. Yeah, that's it. That's it. But congratulations to him. Who else? Who else? Who else? Who else? Who else? It's somebody else. Oh, Cher. Oh, Cher. What did y' all think of Cher?

[B]

She was hanging out with Bruno. Before.

[C]

We. Before we. I just want to clear this up, because that is why they were killing Shabuzi. And they are correct. You said voluntary or involuntary immigrant. The definition of an immigrant is a person who moves to a country other than their own country with the intention of living there permanently or long term. The people didn't have the choice.

[B]

Well, that's why you add a problem saying the same thing. I will just add for a little context, not that anybody cares, but there was a major paper written about 50 years ago by a man named John Ogboo, and he referred to Enslaved people as involuntary immigrants. To say, like, some people are that, but then there's an involuntary piece. So we all saying the same thing. I think sometimes we need to get to the spirit of what people are saying and not nitpick, hang up on the words. Yeah, because, like, we know what you mean, and we know why you're saying it. Now, there are people who ignore foundational black Americans. Ado whatever you want to call them, and they ignore that and only focus on the immigrants. Nah, black people built this shit, and we gotta be honest about that. But I don't think he was saying anything different. I think he was trying to. In a moment where ICE is attacking. Attacking people and immigrants are under attack, I think it's reasonable to say, hey, wait a minute, stop the xenophobia. Y' all are living off these people. I thought it was a good moment.

[A]

And I ain't gonna kill somebody for. For again. You know where his heart is. You know what he's trying. You know what he's trying to do, what he's trying.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

Nervous as it's his first Grammys, like, you up there in front of the world and you trying to make a political statement. I think. I think instead of us. I think instead of us critiquing them, I think we need to be applauding them because it took some balls to do that. Especially when we stage in the world. Especially when we up here getting on everybody else for not saying something.

[A]

Can we get back to me wanting to share?

[B]

Oh, I was going to ask.

[C]

You took the words, right?

[A]

We get right back to whatever.

[C]

She.

[D]

She doesn't look good.

[C]

She was looking like something. I see what the young boy was.

[A]

Knock the dust balls out of there. You.

[C]

Oh, since we doing that, I got. I got one more name to throw in the mix, and y' all might judged me for.

[D]

Let's hear it.

[C]

I knocked Shaka Khan off.

[A]

Shak.

[B]

We exchanged glances on that, like, all right.

[C]

I'm making sure I looked at her on that stage.

[A]

I said, shaka.

[B]

And with the zimpy.

[C]

Love you. You crazy. Sher was looking like something low key.

[B]

That Alex is turning it up on.

[A]

Boy, he got any in the will?

[C]

Oh, she don't know what's going on.

[A]

She don't know what the. Bo.

[B]

You know he did Luther me up. You know that did. He got Luther.

[A]

Like. I was like, wait, hold up.

[C]

That she's back here with Bruno.

[D]

I love when they panned. I love when they panned to Kendrick and Dave and cracking up.

[B]

Luther Gandrels.

[A]

Anybody did. He cleaned it up.

[C]

Kendrick did a great job of cleaning it up. Even before that she walked away. They like, yo, yo, yo, you got an award to present, dog. Like, come here. Oh, that was. She already know what the was going on.

[D]

You heard Joni Mitchell earlier in the. I don't know if anybody saw that. In the earlier presentation, she won for something. Best repackaging of a album. And she got up there, it was. It might have been dead silent with her standing at the mic for like 30 seconds, which feels like a lifetime award ceremony. She's like, I guess this is for whatever the the album was called. And then she was just rambling. So those two chefs kissed.

[A]

But she made me realize how much I love mistakes during award shows.

[B]

Live shows.

[C]

Yeah, that's why I love live shows. You want to see something like the Will Smith slap?

[A]

The. What was the other big one with not in music?

[C]

Miss America. You. Was it that one?

[A]

Oh, Miss America was another one. But now it was one of the Oscars where they got up there and announced the wrong movie.

[C]

Moonlight.

[B]

Like Steve Harvey.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That was crazy.

[A]

No, that's Miss Universe. Yeah, but that Moonlight. Yeah, like mistakes turn award shows up, man.

[C]

They do.

[A]

I appreciated that from Sher. But giving awards, giving award to the guy that's dead that you know, that.

[B]

You know is dead.

[A]

You was friends with him.

[D]

Technically he does get an award for that.

[C]

I think she like he was coming to the stage.

[B]

She didn't remember. She was hiding. She looked for that. She just moved. What? Sunny go, girl. Sunny gone. Alex got her up. Whatever you doing, keep doing it. Yeah. Salute. Salute. See how you get in the wheel hold you all she thought about was dick up there.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

That little lace. That's funny. Yeah, it's funny. You admitted that.

[A]

No, look at she.

[B]

Michelle agree.

[C]

She let the boots not face age believe face age. Yeah, her face look pretty good for 80 or whatever shit was injected in that face.

[B]

That face ain't moved though.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, please. We fuck the 26 year old who face ain't moved.

[B]

Word.

[A]

The fuck you talking about? All right, now we want judge shit too.

[B]

Sh.

[A]

That r move moving. That's a bowling pin that I would knock down. It's D Ray. What?

[B]

That's so fucking nasty.

[A]

That would be the best I would give the best dick I ever had. Bag. Go get a drink and come back and ask the whole 100 mil and get it. Yo, baby, I'm about to run to Target. Yo, can I get like 200 mil or something. Yo, like where's your card? What's your again?

[C]

You go to bed, right?

[A]

She don't remember nothing. She don't remember.

[C]

Once you get that card, sign this power of attorney real quick. Remember you said I could go get the.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Remember the authorized user.

[B]

Yo, while they was talking, doing the speech came. She was in the back talking.

[C]

She was sh. Don't know.

[A]

She was there, you know, shares her. Cuz what Amber was going to say. Amber schmido.

[B]

That's Cher.

[A]

You can't even get your jokes off on. You lost your man at 80 year old. You can't get no jokes off, cuz that 80 year old is her.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. That's crazy.

[D]

Shout to Luther Vandross said.

[B]

Shout to Luther Vanderbilt in peace.

[A]

Shout out to Luther. One of the greatest. One of the greatest. Anything else from the Grammys?

[C]

We need What y' all think of the Cliff's performance.

[D]

That was great.

[B]

Yeah, I loved it.

[D]

It was great.

[C]

I think that was dope. The whole snowing, you know, on the stage.

[B]

I'm still sad they ain't win, man. I'm sorry.

[A]

I'm still up.

[C]

Oh, all right. My bad.

[A]

First.

[D]

No section of one, but yes.

[A]

All right. So it's performance.

[C]

No, I'm. I like the performance. That's my favorite song on the album.

[A]

So I'm glad I seen that part.

[C]

That was fire.

[B]

It was a dope performance, Joe.

[A]

Okay, but why?

[C]

It was all right.

[A]

What was so.

[C]

Well, tell me your thoughts on the performance.

[A]

I liked was a very. It was a rap performance, so I liked it.

[C]

I like.

[A]

Anytime they get up there with their breath control and they cadence, they always kill that. I didn't love the song choice.

[C]

Me either.

[B]

I did.

[A]

I didn't love the song choice in that. In that setting.

[B]

What would you have done?

[C]

Probably Birds don't sing.

[B]

Birds don't sing to me is the obvious.

[D]

But you already did that in front of the Vatican or whatever the that was. You can't top it.

[C]

That John Legend.

[A]

Honestly, I would. I would have done anything but that. I'd have done Fico. I'd have done the. With Tyler. I'd have done.

[B]

I don't know if you got to do.

[C]

It's like POV and you're doing so flower head. You got the choir whips.

[D]

You want to do that because Pharrell just won the award. I'm not mad at the song choice. Maybe not the most. Maybe a little anti climatic.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, remember when hey was everywhere. Andre at the grave. He's like, for the 3,000 goddamn time. Here it is. One more time. Sometimes you just got to do that. Like you do it everywhere. But it worked. Like birds don't sing work. It would have moved that crowd. And you got John Legend.

[C]

Legend was there. Sounding like velvet.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[C]

And them n looked amazing, man. They wanted to show them Louis Vuitton choir robes off. That's what that was.

[B]

Had them choirs who do birds don't sing.

[A]

And then the choir.

[C]

I didn't that the choir.

[A]

I like the bop when the beat drop. I like the choir bopping. But other than that, like, it was a bunch of choirs all night. So like, I didn't think it was a standout.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

But they smoked it. They smoked. It was good. I'd have picked a different song.

[B]

But not me.

[C]

I'm with you.

[D]

Reasonable.

[A]

Other than that, how do y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

I would have been mad at seeing Stove got on the stage. A stage?

[A]

Yeah, man. Turn shit up clips this shit out. Yeah, but I mean they did that. Cause that was still a very clip song.

[D]

It was.

[A]

But all that for. You know what it is? I'm just. You all for real. Move, man.

[C]

Take your sneakers off. You can't do that with a sneaker. You got to take them off.

[A]

I do it every color too.

[C]

How, how do you feel about the.

[B]

The Billie Eilish stolen land comment that they killing her for?

[A]

I didn't see nobody killing Billy is.

[D]

They are.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Kill the.

[A]

Oh, the other side. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

I'm Billie Eilish and her brother. My favorite siblings.

[B]

I'm just making sure.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Phineas had a nice little joint with him too. I'm like, all right, Phineas.

[A]

You seen him on gang? But look, listen. I think that's one of the reasons that Billy Eilish KISS award. Cuz we need somebody that's going to get up there and do what Billie is going to do. I love that.

[D]

Especially with the big old million dollar house or whatever the like, what the does one have to do with the other?

[A]

Oh, please. The up deflection. Was Sabrina Carpenter singing?

[D]

Probably not.

[A]

Was that live, Mike?

[D]

Probably not.

[A]

I didn't think it was either.

[D]

That was a cool performance she puts on when it comes. I'm not the biggest fan of her music, but she puts on I am.

[A]

I enjoyed the performance. And. And she looked great. Yeah, she looked great. That's not my wheelhouse.

[B]

I I, I didn't see.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I Don't see that kind of thing. But she sounds great in the afterlife.

[A]

You marry a white girl?

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

See you chiming in on his afterlife. How you know what he doing in the afterlife? You. How you to marry a white girl Vote?

[C]

No, I don't think so.

[B]

Thank you.

[D]

Is.

[C]

It be dope.

[B]

I was going to make a joke about whites being in the afterlife, but that would be inappropriate.

[A]

So. My God, please. Yeah, Lord.

[B]

That's what. That's it. Be funny. But it wouldn't be so I wouldn't make that joke.

[A]

I don't think I have anything else to say about the Grammys, but let's.

[B]

Just gloss over Sabrina Carpenter.

[D]

What else happened?

[B]

I just wanted to spend some time on Sabrina Carpenter. I think the performance is great.

[A]

That's all.

[B]

I think the performance is great. I just want to reiterate that.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

All right, you got it.

[B]

How does she look?

[A]

No. There's a growing community of people that sort of awards and said, I'll fuck the shit out of Sabrina Carver.

[D]

Oh, I see where we're receptioning.

[A]

I'm walking into this. I'm not saying that Mark is saying that, but there's a list and I'm.

[B]

Not saying that if I were to.

[A]

Have a white girl actually anyone. And it was a meme cuz they put the camera on her when she made that face where she was kind of biting her lip and she does her little.

[D]

She does her little sexual.

[A]

How old is she? Before I participate in this conversation, she's.

[B]

Late 20s, 20 something.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Take up right. The crown's chicken, bro. I say go right to doctor.

[B]

Y' all skipped over her and went to share. I'm like, God damn.

[A]

No Sabrina Carpenter look good.

[B]

She looks amazing.

[A]

She did look good.

[C]

She's 26.

[B]

That's late 20 twenties.

[C]

Technically, she only five feet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. What up?

[D]

Thoughts?

[C]

When you are part of the month, what's the thoughts? Zero.

[B]

That is your responsibility as much.

[C]

All right, I know.

[A]

I hear you. If y' all was sitting at one of them front tables with your with your wife or your girlfriend, how many times would you get up from that table and leave some her to go talk to somebody?

[C]

Well, I got to go get drinks.

[A]

I just guesstimate can't bring drinks.

[B]

I got a bladder issue. So I got to always get up. I got to get up a lot.

[D]

I'm in business, so I want to go shake some heads.

[C]

I drink water. I drink a lot of water. Got to do some networking. This is definitely networking. Got to get up, got to get up. The water and tea are just running through me.

[A]

You know that green tea.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Make you get.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I mean, Jim, Mark and Sabrina. Clark Carpenter is funny. All right, all right. That was the end of our Grammy coverage. Congratulations to all the winners, each and every winner, everybody that was nominated.

[D]

Salute to Jesse and Janae and all them on the production.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go Jesse.

[D]

I'm curious where it's gonna land. They're done with cbs.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

I'm curious where it's gonna end up.

[B]

You think it's gonna be streaming? Like you use some YouTube shit.

[D]

That may be true.

[C]

Netflix or YouTube, about to pay a ton of money and get the rights.

[B]

Because you saw the pre shows on YouTube.

[D]

YouTube, yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it looked, I mean, it felt very natural, normal. It's an easy platform to do, I think. YouTube. My, my guess would be YouTube.

[C]

It's YouTube. Because you could have, I think you could have watched it on YouTube too.

[B]

Could you? I only saw the pre.

[C]

You've been able to do that for a couple years, right?

[D]

The pre show has been there for a while, but I don't know about the main ceremony.

[C]

YouTube.

[A]

Interesting.

[C]

Starting in 2027, they've so the recording out of me. Recording Academy, pardon me, has signed a new long term 10 year rights deal with the Walt Disney Company. Company ABC will take over the Grammys live streaming on Hulu and Disney plus through at least 2036.

[D]

Oh, there we go.

[A]

There you have it. There you have it.

[B]

Grammys everybody.

[A]

And Disney announced the new CEO, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Iger stepped out.

[A]

Iger's out of here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

I'm not sure how Giants fans are feeling out there about that one, but it's hot off the press, so shout out to him. What do we need to get into with sports? The fight.

[C]

Fight.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Hey, take it away, take it away.

[C]

Don't play big Jersey. Yo, you from New Jersey.

[A]

I am.

[C]

Be hyped.

[B]

Then they were saying that.

[C]

Be hype. I'm just like, yo, what do you want to do? You're sports with the fight.

[A]

Be hyped.

[C]

Be hyped.

[A]

Be hype. Cuz Shakur won.

[C]

Yes. No, he didn't win. No, no, no. He didn't just win, though. He didn't win.

[A]

Win. Bring it down.

[C]

Put on a clinic against somebody that said could beat him against a killer. He made the killer look like a puppy in the ring. Just totally dismantled him. Talk big, big.

[A]

Nor especially congratulations to him.

[C]

Yeah. So all the naysayers shut the up.

[A]

I didn't hear anything. Creating they say, no, no, no, no. I didn't hear one person say that this dude was about to beat up Shakur. I just didn't hear that. This could be.

[C]

This is the one that he, bro, has been dissing Shakur for the better part of five years now. Yo, he don't fight nobody. He's mad corny, he's boring. He's running from all the top fighters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

Well, he caught a lot of backlash, cuz one of those fights was really boring. No, few of one of his recent fights was like, is he ducking people? Really, really boring.

[C]

He just, he's just a defense first fighter. So his, his plan is like Floyd plan, you know, yo, I'm gonna hit you. I'm not gonna get hit. I'm not. Boxing is not just standing in the middle of the ring and both of us swing until our arms get tired to see who get knocked out.

[A]

It's a sport.

[B]

Yeah. But I'm asking, has he faced the right people? Has he duck top challengers?

[C]

No, I just think whoever you put in front of them, they line it up. And nowadays boxers are just smarter with how they pick fights. Like back in the day, you would just, yo, I'm a fight parks. Cause he's the second greatest dude and they giving us peanuts. Nowadays, they strategically get to the Pacquiao Floyd moment where we both gonna cash out $300 million. Like they've learned now that if I'm gonna go in the ring and get hurt and potentially get life altering injuries, I'm gonna get paid for that risk. And so I think the, the real fight that everybody want to see is of course, Tank and Shakur. That's the one that they building up for. But Tank got to win some more fights and stay out of trouble.

[A]

Trouble.

[C]

And then Shakur gotta beat up a couple more people and then I think they'll get there to where they both could get that. That payday. Their payday would damn near be a billion dollars.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

So Shakur beat the shit out of Tio. And Tio is good shout out to him. But Shakur just basically dismantled him. When you could take a. A level fighter and make him look like a D level fighter, that just speaks to your skill sets. Floyd used to take real good fighters and just make them look like they wasn't shit. That's how he made them look on Saturday.

[A]

And I guess that's just not shocking to me because I recognize him as being that good.

[C]

Yeah, he's great.

[A]

Like, he's great. He is.

[D]

He is.

[A]

So fight started late.

[D]

I watched it. It was entertaining.

[B]

Was it?

[C]

Yeah, it was a good fight.

[B]

What was the fight? I saw the meme where the dude got hit so hard his hairpiece flew up. Yeah, that was. That was the same car, right?

[C]

Yeah, it's the same car. Same car.

[A]

If there was anywhere where I. I wouldn't glue and tape my toupee on my head, it's a box. I saw him on the Breakfast Club kind of explain his thinking. I still didn't get it.

[B]

What did he say?

[C]

What'd he say?

[A]

He said his man that did it put the super glue and the super tape on. He said he paid $700. He said he really thought that it would stay on. He said he had a hair accident a few days before and he was Just contemplating ways to get around. And his man cut it off. There's no way that this was going to fall.

[B]

His name is Big Baby Miller.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Every part of that playing sound that's up my man's 700 super glue gangster the week before. Like, all that sound like a bad.

[A]

And it's wild because. Pause.

[D]

He.

[A]

He has the right head for baldy.

[C]

Some niggas don't accept the baldy though, man.

[A]

But some niggas don't know that they have the right head for a bald. Like, I understand why isha holding on like his head ain't baldy head.

[B]

Do you feel like you got a bald head? I feel like you do.

[A]

The second he do that.

[C]

Over, he.

[B]

Look like common full time dad.

[A]

Y' all never thought about, like, why he do that?

[D]

He's damn near baldy now.

[A]

If he were to be bald n.

[D]

He can get that shined up, right?

[A]

It's over, Yo, I'm.

[B]

It's the rocket. He would kill the streets with the ball.

[A]

He gonna hold on as long as he can. He going to hold on like simply red. Yeah, man. No, he. No, for real. He's going to keep holding on, man.

[B]

It's cool.

[A]

How long you think? How long you think going to hold on? Ch.

[C]

I'm not even just throwing the ball.

[A]

Come on, help me out.

[C]

I'm not even listening.

[A]

Help. Help out.

[C]

My hair's growing back.

[B]

Wait, I'm sorry. You mean like. Like he's going to pay for the surgery? You mean that literally, bro.

[C]

We're not going to center it. My hair. I'm not cutting my hair off.

[B]

I'm not telling you.

[A]

You'll go to turkey first.

[C]

Yeah, I'll go to turkey.

[B]

But you said it's actually growing back. Like it's gonna be a full head of hair grow like you have a full head of hair again.

[C]

My hair is already growing back.

[B]

Will you have a full head of hair again? They gonna take the for the back game. Where's it growing? Put it up here so you gonna have a line right here so we could be able to tell.

[A]

Yeah, this man.

[C]

Did you do it already? Is that why you wearing the hats all the time?

[B]

You did it.

[C]

You did it.

[B]

Wait a minute. I smacked the. Oh, that's why it's growing back. Back. Take the scully off, right? You keep the scully on to the turkey. Take the scully off. That ain't growing back, boy. He just trying to keep it low.

[A]

He look a mess. He look a absolute mess. Look at him. You're Idiot. Love you, bro.

[B]

But I mean, he's one of them guys. He's not going to let it's not going to let it go, but he.

[C]

Could pull it off.

[B]

I think it's looking good in the front, in the size. Now you do the LeBron Jones.

[A]

I'm chilling, bro. N that Korea doing some in the front an Chinese secrets. He bugging out in the front a little. You got to tell him to relax.

[C]

All right, I hear you. I'll tell him.

[A]

Give me his number. I'll text him.

[C]

I'll tell him.

[A]

I. I got you. Congrats to Shakur. Congrats to big Baby Miller. He still won't put a duvet on. Might as well win.

[C]

You got to win.

[A]

Word, cuz I was punching the. Out of his face.

[C]

You'll mean forever. You can't lose. You can't lose.

[A]

Can't lose that. Yeah.

[C]

Hit, fist. Slid right across the top of your head and peeled your back. You have to win that fight. It's like literally got his cat pill back.

[A]

Did y' all see Deontay Wilder's interview? Talking about Tyson Fury cheated at least two of the fights he caught him.

[B]

I a see it, but I saw the clips, like in the mar interview.

[C]

What did he say? He blinded me. He hit me too hard.

[A]

No, he said, go look him up. Google him. He. He's a cheater, and that's. There's reasons he's not allowed back in America. And I got the proof, and he won't sue me for defamation because he know I got the proof and I dare him. I'd love to get up there and show receipts to what I'm saying. Whatever Deontay Wilder is saying. I'm. He's still. I. I'm agreeing with. Because I can't beat him.

[B]

Not even that. They got clips, though, showing that Tyson Fury hand was outside the glove. Right. His glove was bending when he hit Deontay Wilder.

[A]

Now we on the Dark Web. All right?

[B]

The Dark Web is a regular shit.

[C]

He said his hand was bending like.

[B]

Like. Yeah, like the glove was bending. The top of the glove was bending, so it seemed like his hand wasn't. You know how your hand go in.

[A]

The glove and hold it?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So you said he was hitting with a more knuckle than. More knuckles. Yeah, more than glove. Watch this. I swear to God, I'm not a conspiracy theory.

[A]

It's not a fight I'm looking to see again, anyway. Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury.

[C]

I've seen it enough.

[B]

I'm Cool.

[A]

This is so crazy. I'm cool.

[C]

My n. I don't care if he had hammers on his hands. You was getting hit.

[A]

If Deontay Wilder is sitting in front of me saying, tyson Fury cheated, then.

[C]

That'S what he cheated. Big dog. Hey, big dog. And I'm with you. Yeah, let's get them niggas.

[B]

Right?

[C]

And I'm with you.

[D]

Fuck off, Fury.

[B]

All your conspiracies out now.

[C]

But right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When he leave, I'll be talking to you, beating your ass.

[A]

How many Ices do you think it would take to win against Deontay Wild?

[B]

He's doing that stupid game. How many ices you need? A whole tree of ice. That's a good one.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[A]

I wouldn't ice the answer. I wouldn't throw a joke.

[C]

It's going to be a few.

[B]

You need four.

[C]

No, no, you need more than four. You need more than four of you to be deontay. That is.

[A]

I need more than four jokes.

[C]

How many issues, nigga, you standing like that? How many issues? He's tough.

[A]

Ice answer.

[C]

It's gonna take a lot, bro. Double digits.

[A]

10.

[C]

Higher double digit. Probably about 25. Something.

[A]

We got to jump 25 ices.

[B]

Ish.

[C]

Answer.

[A]

Ish.

[B]

I know ish is thinking four. I was gonna say three.

[A]

Four ish.

[C]

Hit that first ish mark and the other two. Ish is gonna fall with him.

[B]

Six.

[A]

Six marks. I ain't going to hold you, Deon. Four.

[C]

Together.

[A]

Hey, four is in. Six marks. I'm betting on de.

[C]

Talking about why.

[A]

You always try to be so cool.

[C]

On the P. That was.

[A]

He was a world champion.

[B]

Have you seen in a boxing match. That would make a difference?

[C]

Anything he feel like doing against you.

[A]

Anything he's wanting to do to y'.

[B]

All. If we fight, I'm saying three.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

If we fighting, I'm saying three. If we boxing, I'm saying a lot.

[C]

You got.

[A]

Okay, give me your plan of attack for three.

[C]

One of the three got a gun.

[B]

To the ground once.

[C]

One of the niggas grab his legs.

[B]

And get him on the ground.

[C]

It's night night.

[A]

How many marks do you think it's going to take to get Deontay Wilder legs to the ground in this night night? One with three other mark.

[C]

Two other niggas fighting you from the sides.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

How many punches you think he need to get y' all off of him?

[B]

I'm just.

[C]

I'm not trying to be funny.

[B]

You gotta grab him quick. My goal's Gonna be to not let him punch me, right?

[C]

Like you understand it.

[B]

Like the three of us. What you talking about? I'm not saying I can beat him. I'm saying three of us can.

[A]

Now, if you five' eight, you say it's three of y' all telling these.

[C]

People five' eight, that nigga. Five' six. That nigga is trained.

[B]

I thought you was helping me on my side.

[C]

That nigga is trained in jiu jitsu. He's trained in Muay Thai. You think he just gonna sit there and let a hit him? By the time I grab one of the. Grab his legs and tie him up, his balance gonna be off.

[A]

They got a rope. They got a rope. Bird.

[B]

In a boxing match.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

In a boxing match. I think six of us. In a boxing match.

[C]

I think six. Not crazy. I think.

[D]

You need a bunch of six.

[C]

Ish.

[A]

Like I said, how many you think it would be? I said it's gonna take more than.

[C]

Four and six that nigga. Six. Seven.

[B]

How much you weigh?

[C]

226.

[B]

This one ain't that crazy. Yeah.

[C]

Y' all got it solid.

[B]

Solid. I ain't taking again. I'm saying six. Are you lowering it now?

[C]

Cause you.

[A]

The number I'm putting out there is to guarantee a win. Like, not.

[C]

That's why. How many you jumping on?

[A]

And you ain't going be able to move like a swarm.

[D]

I think six to do it.

[B]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Six is not crazy.

[C]

Give me 25. Give me 25 of me. We got him. No shot.

[B]

25. 25 is too much.

[A]

And I got half of your number. Give me 12. 12 and a half. And lights out for him. Double digits.

[B]

I think you underestimating yourself.

[A]

No, I'm trying to get this done. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get this done and.

[B]

Get out of town.

[A]

I'm not trying to have a debate.

[C]

I might send the. I might not even get in that. Y' all do it.

[A]

Word. I might be in the back coaching. Yeah.

[C]

Yo, yo, other side.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[B]

So he said he coaching. Even in your fantasy fight, you still a chump?

[A]

I don't use that word you call.

[C]

A chump even in your fantasy fight.

[B]

You a bitch. I'm fighting in my nigga. He's still calling the police in his fantasy, sending help. Yo, I'mma sending 11 clones in the.

[C]

Ring, and I'mma sit back here.

[B]

911, what's your emergency?

[C]

You got.

[A]

Damn right. All right, so real quick, all right. So, all right, my last question, because I don't want to drag this out. This wasn't on the board at all. Ish. And Mark, how many of you guys would it take to beat a prime Mike Tyson? I just want to understand yalls. 30.

[C]

Way, way more.

[B]

Give it to me.

[A]

Give me a number.

[B]

Double digits, please.

[A]

A number. Thank goodness.

[D]

Help.

[A]

It's a segment that we've created.

[C]

It's fast, bro. 20. Okay, 15. Only three for Deontay Wilder. Deontay Wilder and Mike. No, no, I'm just asking.

[B]

We didn't say three for Deontay wild.

[D]

He did.

[C]

No, I said four.

[A]

15 to 20 for Mike fighting.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

15 to 20 for Mike Mark in a boxing match.

[B]

I'm going to say the same in a fight. 6.

[C]

See, I. I look at Mike different from in a fight.

[A]

Let's move on. Let's move on.

[B]

I think y' all underestimate what people can do.

[C]

And Mike is fast in a boxing match.

[B]

No, it's like 15 of us. I'm not in a boxing match.

[C]

It's going to take 15 of y'.

[A]

All for a nigga and go beat my tight.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[D]

Do you think 15 punches will make him tired?

[C]

There's no amount.

[B]

I think if you have 15 people, you can surround him. I mean, you can't defend from 15.

[A]

And then what?

[C]

And what's going to happen then?

[A]

Are you. Are y' all driving?

[D]

My point is still saying you take.

[A]

15 punches will make you tired.

[B]

Yeah, I do. Eventually.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait.

[C]

You think he gonna get tired eventually.

[B]

If 15 of us.

[C]

Hold on, last question, last question.

[B]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[C]

Last question. How many punches you think he has to use?

[A]

15.

[B]

And he's not gonna be tired.

[C]

I'm trying to tell this prime Mike Tyson.

[A]

Nah, I think. I think. I think if they hit one of the mark, six marks is leaving.

[B]

Check, please. Where Isaac? I don't know where he at.

[A]

Oh, right. Moving on, moving on, you guys. That's why I love male ego. Male ego. I wouldn't want to live on this earth if male ego wasn't dispersed.

[B]

I don't think that's ego.

[A]

Oh, please.

[B]

How many you would it take to beat Mike Tyson prior?

[A]

There's not an amount.

[B]

See and see.

[D]

It would be like 200.

[A]

Really? You think so?

[D]

200 punches, he'll be a little tired.

[A]

You better off asking me how many Joes would it take to apologize to Mike for whatever. Whatever went wrong? What.

[C]

Whatever reason he want whatever.

[B]

He's angry. We already seen who side you on.

[C]

Y. I'm on side of content.

[B]

That's right. Good job.

[A]

Shocker.

[B]

Shocker.

[A]

Oh, my God. All right, come on. Oh, Plies versus. Come on. I don't even know how to say this, cuz.

[C]

No one because no one. Cause of me.

[A]

I'm just.

[B]

Trick Daddy.

[C]

Yeah, Trick Daddy. Trick Daddy went on an interview and he was saying, like, plaz can't see me in no way. I got anthems for the streets. I got anthems for, you know, commercial records, which he does.

[D]

He does.

[C]

And he was. I don't. I don't know where, like why he chose the name Plaz. I don't know if they asked him. I'm not. I didn't see the. The what led to it.

[A]

But that's what pissed you off?

[C]

No, it never pissed me off. I've been on the other side of this. I came in here and told y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

I got plots taking juvenile in the verses I've been standing on. What Plies. A lot of people just forget about Plaz. A lot of people forget that Plaz run. A lot of people let the.

[A]

The.

[C]

The perception of his image after the whole Jamie Foxx story change how they looked at his music.

[D]

I forgot.

[A]

I didn't.

[D]

I don't remember that.

[A]

It was.

[C]

It was a video shoot and they said was a bunch of people coming to check Plaz. Plies hitting the bathroom and caught security shit like that. So people started looking at him like, oh, you noticed.

[D]

Tough.

[C]

You not this, you not that. We don't hear your music the same because you didn't let these 20 come jump on you for your dream.

[D]

This one. Plies used to cut on the camera. What happened to that? What happened when he used to cut on the camera and talk? It's been a while.

[C]

I feel he still do tweets a lot. And now what.

[A]

What does Plies play when Trick Daddy plays Nan?

[D]

Trick Daddy is highest or.

[A]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Give him some time.

[C]

I'm just. I'm just trying to think. Cu you throwing off the record.

[A]

I'm throwing up.

[C]

I said you throwing it out the blue. I. I don't have his. Listen for me, but if he. If he plays Nan, I would go to a 10 of spades.

[A]

1 0.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to think, bro. I could. I. All right, fine. Cool, cool, cool. I'll throw a record out there.

[A]

It don't matter. It's one all right.

[C]

1 0, 1 0.

[A]

What is Pl?

[C]

Let me. No, no, no, no, no. Let me return. Let me return. Now what is. What is Trick Daddy play when Pl.

[A]

Does Busted B baby too Busted baby.

[C]

That's the one with Neo on it.

[B]

Sheesh.

[A]

I like that song. Shut up.

[C]

Yeah, throw some trash.

[A]

No, shut up.

[D]

Shut up.

[C]

Okay. What's up?

[A]

Shut up. I'm playing it now. Now, now. Let's have a fight.

[B]

Let's have a battle or I'm a thug. I was about to say I'm a thug.

[C]

You know what, y'?

[B]

All?

[C]

I'm get my Pl list out.

[A]

That's not fair if you going to do that, cuz I'm off the dome.

[C]

Well, I'm not versus ain't off the dome.

[A]

All right, then forget it then.

[C]

No, a, don't forget it. Ain't no forget it. I'm. I'm right here now.

[A]

You got to go to Plies Essential.

[C]

I'm going to my. No, never.

[A]

I'm applies.

[C]

Applies Essentials officially ISIS Plies playlist, fam. I don't do essentials. You're not stream right now.

[A]

He got the one. I just want the record to show he got the one Plies record off the dome. He played.

[C]

He played.

[A]

We just got the one record off.

[C]

The dome because you going matchup. I wasn't doing matchup. That's why I showed you Party with T Pain. Even though I'm not your man. You're not my girl. I'm gonna call you my shorty. That record, it's a good record.

[A]

Take it to the house.

[C]

That's not gonna win against Shorty.

[A]

I'm just telling you what I'm playing.

[C]

I'm just like. That's not.

[A]

I'm just telling you records that.

[C]

Okay, so we. So we're gonna.

[A]

So you're still on your phone. I'm done with you. I'm done with you. I'm not talking to that hip hop from Essentials. Yo, I'm done. I'm done. I tried to do this off the dome. You got your phone. I don't. I'm hands free now. We good.

[B]

You done read those you anyway.

[A]

And I don't even know that I'm disagreeing with you. I just want to hear it. I just want to hear it play out wasted versus getting.

[C]

Listen 20. It's going to get. It's going to get. It's going to get. It's going to get slippery for.

[A]

For.

[C]

For Trick daddy, but a good 10. The first 10. I'm talking 20 records. I'm talking 20 records. Pl's going to his feature bag and it's you can hang it up. Yeah, he's right.

[A]

I don't know that because I didn't go on my phone. I didn't check my phone.

[C]

I'm a thug holiday. I love all I love. I love Trick Daddy's first three albums are he got some. You do amazing. And then I can say PL's first three albums personally. PL's first two albums are personal classics of mine. Like those are when you have your the classic the album that's a classic to you. But everybody else just might not have gotten agree the real Testament is an amazing album. Maybe if y' all didn't hear y' all would understand it is a personal classic. But again and then just let Plaz get into the feature bag. We can go all day. Feature bag is right all day. Hang it up. His feature bag is rough day now lose my mind Jeezy plus go.

[A]

I'm so hood go yo you read your phone.

[C]

I am not reading. My phone is on the other channel.

[A]

I try to nast dick big cause he read his phone. I know you was humble when you didn't bring the show.

[C]

I wasn't humble because I was trying to do matchup with you. But we just naming the songs. We can name em. We can absolutely name them.

[A]

That don't mean nothing to me though. Cause on the versus, like if you got enough street joints then you could Gucci Jeezy this.

[C]

Gucci Jeezy is what A lot of.

[A]

People had Gucci winning that.

[C]

A lot of people had Gucci winning that off of the antic of you dissing the homeboy. But when we talking about versus he.

[A]

Played a lot of mixtape joints in that versus that hit.

[C]

But from the wreck of you go song for song this and I'm not I'm taking my GZY bias out of this. Just talking to people who love the music. It was not even close the moment.

[A]

Of the battle went into. I'm just telling you that depending on your performance and your mixtape records, it wasn't neither.

[C]

One of those was why people pick Gucci. The two things you listed are not why they said Gucci got it. They said Gucci because of the antic of the smoking on your dead homie. Oh the disrespect. Oh, you did that in his face. That's not it was.

[A]

You did one song.

[C]

One song. One song does not win you an entire verses. So you win that round.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

You won that round. You Got it. And Jeezy's rebuttal to that people was like, oh, he smoked that he did.

[A]

But again, the moment wasn't saying in the moment. Now you got Jeezy.

[C]

That was the moment.

[A]

That was not being said in the moment. Jeezy's rebuttal was hot. That was not what was being said moment. That's just not true.

[C]

He was like, yo, one thing for certain. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Joe, you're wrong here. And they'll let you know.

[A]

I'm not gonna have a Jeezy talk with you.

[C]

It's fine.

[A]

It's not fair. That was not the overwhelming. I'm telling you right after that battle fam at all.

[C]

What did I just say?

[A]

Can we was worried about Jeezy, was afraid for him.

[B]

Felt like he could get shot in.

[A]

The middle of that. Nobody cared about that mature bullshit.

[C]

And Gucci himself went and said this is why it was you talk about way later. My I'm telling you.

[A]

Had to come on here and say yo. No, they spoke first. They spoke first. He looked away.

[D]

He looked away first.

[C]

What do you want me to say, Joe?

[A]

And you know why you had to say that? Because.

[C]

Because we mature and I'm going let you get your off. I'mma show up doo. Because I don't want to. I'mma come by myself. I don't want to make this a thing. I know you got to point the bullet shoulder. It's not revision. What said in the moment.

[A]

I think that all of this is revision.

[C]

Well, you can think that and you'll be wrong in your thinking, but we talking about what the two people that were there said happened in the moment.

[A]

I've been wrong before. I've been right a lot more than that. Couch.

[C]

We're not going Couch versus Couch telling me so.

[A]

I'm telling you I'mma bet on my wrong. I'mma bet on that one.

[C]

Well, you can bet on that.

[A]

Don't bring me wrong as hell. He got his cheesy Jeezy underwear on. I don't want to be biased and let me biased.

[C]

I'm not being biased.

[A]

I'm being objective and realy boxer. I know what nobody saying Learn how.

[C]

To be wrong and be.

[A]

I. I've been wrong before, but that was no overwhelming sensation. Your man got clapped up. Don't be mad about it.

[C]

Be wrong now.

[A]

I know. Come on, what's next?

[C]

Versus.

[B]

Versus.

[C]

We here.

[D]

Let's do it all.

[A]

Versus?

[B]

Yeah, versus. And my God, it was an ass.

[A]

Who picked hit boy.

[C]

That's what I want.

[A]

Who picked Hit Boy?

[C]

Show yourself.

[D]

I don't think anybody up here.

[B]

Nobody up here.

[C]

Yeah. I'm going to go back and watch. But none of you better than.

[B]

It was a lot closer in our. In our predictions than we making it sound right now. It wasn't like said Mike Will was going to put belt to ass.

[D]

It could have been closer.

[A]

Hit Boy terrible had going on.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

He misplay did this before. Yeah. Yes.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Did this in. The boy won the battle. Yo. Do you think that they just think that that or they don't be in touch with what the world looks at as the slaps versus what they look at as the slaps?

[D]

I don't know. I don't think that's about the slaps. I don't see how that could be. I would have to imagine that there's someone on the production team helping with some of the playlisting to some level.

[C]

No, like, no. No disrespect.

[A]

It's too important to think that that wouldn't be happening.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

It should be if. If it's not.

[C]

Evidently not know because again, this didn't look like, you know, some of them verses is. It looks like they have the songs already set and everything. When you see going back, talking to the DJ and stuff like that, I'm telling you, play this record.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yo, we doing this on the fly like Ja did. That's what J did.

[B]

Like, yo.

[C]

Oh, oh, I'm. I'm making adjustments.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Do this, do that, do this, do that. That's what it looked like happened here. No disrespect. Again, I keep saying this. There's no reason I should hear that asap. Rocky song in the verses off a new album.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when you have oldie in one train.

[C]

That's my point. The song, not bad. But this ain't the time for questionable choices.

[A]

Questionable song choices.

[D]

And even doing three of them in one round was also not great.

[C]

I don't know what he was thinking.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I really don't know. And you ready to tell me I was right? Give it to me, Ray Shrommert.

[A]

Whew. Oh, yeah. I would just make a jokes, though. You figured they would come out okay. They look good.

[B]

They look.

[A]

They look good.

[C]

And they sounded good. And that. That worked. Juicy J. Like, when that happened, I said, all right, it's over.

[B]

It's a rap. Yeah.

[C]

What we doing?

[D]

And that would have been before the Rihanna record.

[C]

It was before. Like, I Was like, what we?

[A]

What we? They was dragging Hit Boy. They was dragging Hit Boy's name. I ain't going to lie.

[C]

It got so. Did you see him on Twitter afterwards?

[B]

No. No.

[A]

He took the X.

[C]

They had him.

[D]

He was letting him have it.

[A]

Yeah, what he said.

[C]

He was like, oh, fuck outta here. Like, he cursing fans out and stuff. Cause they getting on him about why you playing Nas records? And like, they. He was just. Nah. Like, he didn't accept the L. You know how when a URL battle and you can kind of tell who lost by when they go on Twitter after the battle. Yeah, this was that. It was clear as dead from Hit Boy's timeline. He took the L and is taking the L badly.

[A]

I ain't got nothing bad to say about Hit Boy because like I said in the other part, he'll take the fight.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's not gonna run from the fight.

[D]

He's got great records. I think he just misplayed the records. Like the Nas record. You play a Nas record very early on in the set or put it up against something that you're not about.

[C]

To win or you don't play it.

[D]

Or you don't play it.

[B]

It's always that.

[C]

No disrespect. Again, this is not. If you do. I think. I think what happened was you looked at the verses like, let me just play like my best beats or something. Or my favorite beats.

[D]

Maybe.

[B]

This ain't the.

[C]

This not the place for that faves.

[B]

Shake the crowd type for our faves.

[D]

Right, right.

[A]

They didn't even budge when he did the whole trophy sample. This is where I got it from.

[C]

They didn't even. It's like they didn't know it did.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And you can hear it right away.

[D]

The crowd was kind of whack, though.

[C]

And in.

[D]

In respect to that. That crowd should have been a little bit more lit. It seemed like it was just the production team or something in the crowd.

[C]

Like, it did look like in house crowd or something.

[D]

Yeah. Looked like a sausage fest. And no one was having fun. They had one stripper come out. It was like, all right, man. Like, y' all got a couple dollars, man? We could have made this look a little bit flier.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I didn't like the venue. It was too dark in there.

[A]

Like, that made me feel my age because I. I know I don't want to see all you on stage no more.

[D]

That part too.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It might have been more people.

[A]

Chaos and madness and I know.

[C]

Who look like a headache.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody was babysitting up there like he was.

[C]

He wore his son out with him.

[A]

Hey, dog, what are we doing up here? Yo, let's get.

[D]

And.

[C]

And you the hometown favorite.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, you should have had had a better understanding of what this calls for.

[D]

Yeah, it was a mess. It was a mess.

[A]

And you know what?

[C]

It is, too.

[A]

I'm just sitting here talking for three hours. Old man on some old school. This is gonna come off slow. Producers wasn't really meant to be seen like this.

[D]

You're not wrong. That's a fact.

[C]

I don't think so.

[D]

Some of them, obviously. The ones that.

[A]

We're not talking about Pharrell.

[D]

Eric, sir.

[A]

We're not talking about you, Swiss. No, There's a list of people that are excluded from what I'm saying.

[C]

It's small.

[A]

Yeah, but just back in the day, if you were a producer, no matter how ill you were, you were normally in your own producer world, like, not really trying to be seen too much.

[C]

What do you think that changed the tag tags?

[A]

I changed it.

[C]

Just Blaze.

[A]

I mean, what was the producer tag before that? I ain't kicking out. I'm open to hearing. You might be right.

[C]

Yeah, I never.

[A]

Pharrell was using the tag.

[D]

Alchemist had a tag, and beat miners had tags pretty early, but.

[A]

And I'm talking shit. I'm not trying to take credit for this, but when the beat tag became popular, producers had to. Now it changed the game. It did that. That's my opinion of it, I think.

[D]

Also, not for nothing, when the producer became less of, like, the crew and it became super freelance. Everyone for everything which is around Illmatic. That was kind of the start of it, really, because no longer was the producer the RZA or Eric Sermon or someone who. Or Havoc or someone who was in the crew.

[B]

Crew.

[D]

You're now just a bunch of freelancers, Everybody getting beats from everybody. You kind of had to do some to set yourself apart from whomever.

[C]

I. I think.

[A]

I think these two on stage, it was a lot of producer swag up there.

[C]

When Pharrell say say more, what you mean? What's producer swag?

[A]

Producer swag?

[B]

What does that mean?

[C]

What does that mean, bro?

[A]

Come on, man. You know what I'm saying, man?

[C]

I don't get it. I don't get it.

[D]

Respect. Hit boy is a pretty good rapper. I don't want to hear him rapping when, like, Kanye or someone else is rapping. Respectfully.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that was a man. Respectfully, yes. If Kanye is doing the verse Shut up, man.

[D]

I do do. Getting your hype man bag, you know what I'm saying?

[C]

Like, but not rap.

[D]

The actual verse all along with the whole show.

[A]

Producer swag.

[D]

And I get it. It's a live performance, so you got to try to do something.

[B]

But can you say a little bit more?

[D]

I'll tell you what it is.

[A]

Thank you, Park. Save me, please. Please save me.

[D]

I'll tell you what another problem is, is when the producers stop becoming traditionally DJs. That didn't help either. Because back in the day, producers were typically DJs. So they know how to just hype the crowd, get out the way, let the record be the record. They're not really DJs no more. Most of them. Yeah. So they might have been rappers at one point or still trying to rap.

[C]

Wasn't around.

[D]

Now this is how they know how to perform. Whereas a DJ would just get up.

[A]

There, listen, don't attack me. Don't come attack me. I ain't never had no swag neither. It's. It's introverted. Rappers didn't have to have swag either. I come from that era. But producers, oh, my Lord. Rapping over the vocals. Aniche jeans. It's just be a mess. It be a mess. Bubble vest with some caterpillar boots with some. They be a mass producers. Yo, Pharrell did it.

[C]

Pharrell and Swizz. Because Pharrell, Pharrell's one of the best.

[A]

Dressed men and always has been.

[C]

So Pharrell, Swizz and Tim became stars as the producers. They became from behind the scenes to be in the forefront. You didn't have a bunch of producers doing that prior to. To them was making beats. Didn't know what these looked like until knew the. The producers. But you couldn't spot them in the crowd.

[D]

Well, again, outside of Eric Sermon and Havoc and they was a part of the group.

[C]

They was a part of the group. So those that was a part of the group.

[A]

I'm not talking about none of that.

[C]

Yeah, like a lot of real hip hop. Oh, no, I ain't gonna say that. But like Ali Shahid Muhammad, people might not know who he is if they say to see him. If you're a hip hop head, know Pharrell worldwide, people know Swizz, Tim worldwide. They came from behind the camera. So now every producer now thinks that they could do that. And it's not the case.

[D]

It was really Kanye.

[C]

No, because popular before Kanye.

[D]

No, but Kanye put the super on top to that.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Kanye was two Polos Yeah.

[C]

Swiss Beats was popular. He was.

[D]

But he wasn't necessarily fashion. Fashion and all up in the limelight.

[C]

He didn't get looked at, like, the goofy producer. Okay, So nobody really. Pharrell was weird, but nobody looked at him like, get your goofy ass out. Pharrell and them became stars in their own right. You're right.

[B]

You're right.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

I hate that I'm having this talk on the back of Mike Will versus Hip Hop Boy because it sounds like I'm directly speaking about them, and I'm not, but they inspired the conversation. My. My. My train of thought. While I was. While I was watching how they were.

[B]

Standing there, was they standing like.

[A]

And now I'm looking at producer entourages, too, with glasses. Like, at least if I'm looking at, like, the rapper entourage, I'm looking at 70 niggas that I know will kill me if I do something. The producers just be having heaven and, like, who know.

[B]

It's my cousin from Cincinnati.

[C]

He nice on the trumpet. Is wrong with you? And this right here will kill you.

[A]

The is.

[B]

Mike Will.

[A]

Hey.

[D]

Shout to them. I had an entertaining two hours. It was. It was fun. I just think that Hit Boy completely misplayed his hand, that's all.

[A]

Shout out to your boy. Shout out to Mike Will.

[C]

Shout out to them.

[B]

So you're saying that it could have been called Closer?

[C]

It could have been way closer.

[B]

Based off of the discography that you guys know.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Hit Boy had a better performance the first time he did versus.

[D]

That too. That too.

[A]

I did. I do.

[D]

Doing, like, unreleased records. It's not the place for that.

[A]

Yeah. I think just producer verses should be set up differently than, like, I wanted to look like it looked when Earth, Wind and Fire battled. What. What's the name? It's Legend. It's Gouches. It's respect. Up here. Here it's. And that's it.

[D]

All extras, I think, for two producers who aren't DJs or rappers, even though Hip does rap, but he's becoming more known for that. I think, like, a studio setting would have been better than a club setting. Even though the records are both club records. I just think that the It's.

[C]

That would have been studio setting is fire. DMX and Snoop, like, that would have been fire.

[A]

Do y' all think Mike Will. Do y' all think Mike Will versus Mustard would have looked different?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It's a heavyweight fight.

[D]

That's a fight.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

There's not a lot of people that want to Stand by Mustard.

[C]

Neither one of them or. Yeah.

[D]

Or Mike Will, for that matter.

[C]

But you got to go into a different. You got to go into a different bag.

[B]

If you.

[C]

Mike, will you stand in front of Mustard.

[D]

That he's got, right?

[C]

He got records.

[A]

Mustard ain't a fair fight.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Mustard stuff.

[C]

Not.

[A]

I was trying to tell Hit make of that when he was up here talking that Mustard shit. Like, relax you. Yo, relax. You my man. And you. And you might.

[D]

You got joints, but he's got joints but got like.

[A]

That's. That's especially. I was saying this before now, like, us, right? TV off and TV off and TV off.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, God. Anyway, I don't even want to think about it anymore.

[D]

Yeah, Mustard. Mustard's one of them ones. He's a tough one to go against. Today versus Word.

[B]

That's a. Y', all. It's a story that.

[D]

And he DJ and perform. He knows how to put on that. Sorry, carry on.

[B]

No, no, my bad. There's just a story that we gotta cover. People out there, I think we're afraid to talk about it. It's been all over the news. Obviously, it's all on social media. It's related to hip hop. And I just think it'd be irresponsible not to talk about it. C.L. smooth and Pete Rock have been going at it, and I'm not afraid to touch this. I don't know about y', all, but I'm not afraid of this story. Parks, can you tell us a little bit what's going on? I feel like other blogs are done it for.

[D]

For sure.

[B]

I know you're nervous about political connections, but I'm. I'm going to take it on. You seeing me and B. Yeah. Heart drop. He about to go. Time out. He might not love you now. Go to bathroom.

[D]

P Rock was on Joe and Jada, and he was asked about his relationship with CL Smooth, which he replied, it's not great. In attributed that to jealousy, essentially, is the abridged version, although it wasn't really.

[B]

Much deeper in that CL Smooth has a different side of that. I know. I think he feels wronged in a relationship, but I don't exactly understand why.

[D]

Oh, I haven't heard. CL side.

[B]

Cause about two years ago, P Rock was like, I'm taking a high road on this.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

You know what I mean? And it seemed like he feels wrong about Pete Rock. I don't know if it's about money.

[A]

CL Replied and said, jealousy. There's not a jealous bone in my body. If you know Me, you know who I am. You know who I work with. This is how I'm making my coin today. Like, I'm totally good with my career. How it played out. That couldn't be further from the truth. But he was unclear on what. What's happening.

[C]

So is it one of those, like, dog, you know, you, like. If I'm talking like, you know what you did. Like, you and I, we both know what happened. I ain't gotta tell you what it feels like. Cause that's what it sound like. You said if. No, it ain't just jealousy. I'm good. My money's good. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. It's something else. I don't wanna say it, but you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[B]

That's what it feels like to me. And I just hate that so many of these legendary groups, these legacy acts end up split. I'm like, what does it take for a hip hop group, duo, band, collective, whatever, to stay together?

[D]

This is a very normal thing in groups. I just don't like when it becomes public.

[A]

That's my only. I'm not mad at a beef. I'm mad at it being out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm mad at one of the group members not holding it down no matter what y' all went through.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm. I'm glad we were able to take on that.

[A]

That story, because that was my slowdown. Hold it down. Whatever we going through, what the Y' all got an album out for.

[B]

I remember that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I don't want to hear from the legends.

[A]

And all these years later, T Rock and CL Smooth. That's what got me. Come on, man.

[B]

Those my sacred. Those, like, sacred, sacred figures for me.

[A]

So listen, but speaking of battles, right, because we were talking about the verses. Speaking of battles, here's what I got for y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I have T. Rex speaking about a dispute that he's having with Beasley about the battle where he had the seizure.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I thought this was pretty interesting. I'm gonna play the clip.

[C]

He show up at times. Look, I sue y' all cause of that. I'm still waiting on some motherfucking on a grievance appreciation check. Yeah, we ain't talking about D.C. until I come. Ain't talking about doing it again until I come. Yeah, we ain't talking about that.

[B]

Show up.

[C]

It ain't the rap. Your contract say for you to show up. I supposed to got my money before I walked in the building. URL. In the power part of caffeine no more. So what I'm waiting on my money for?

[A]

I'm supposed to have that on the walk in. But see, that's.

[C]

Again, being a friend with Beasley. I'll let you get away with that. But what I'm not gonna let you get away with is not taking care.

[B]

Of me before we handle this Geechy Gotti shit.

[C]

If not, I'll be battling everywhere else. Business is business, right? If I messed up on the contract, nigga gonna say I can't battle nowhere else, right? All right, so you gotta fix your part, too. And I'm handling. The way they handle me is business. Friendship is friendship. We gotta separate them. You saying yo. Damn. Yo, T, what's up, Yo? Yo, Rex was good.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

Look, I need y' all to come shoot this.

[C]

I need you to host this event, this and the third. And I'm talking to you like a friend.

[B]

So I'm giving.

[C]

So now I'm. I'm getting friendship, love from you. But then when it turns around and you need me, I'm talking like a businessman. That's a talent Beasley got. He could turn it off.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm saying it's business for them to say, shine, care, battle, nowhere. It's who this?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's business to say, until you give me some money, I ain't going back on that stage.

[A]

This is really, really interesting to me.

[B]

He's. He's always been like that, though, right? So shout out to Rex. I mean, if there was a battle that didn't happen that he did, and, like, he feels like if you gave him. If you paid him initially, you paid him to show up, and he felt like if the battle did not happen, not because it's my fault, that's on y', all, y' all still gotta pay me. And it was a situation like that before where if you want me to do it again, you have to rebook me. So Rex has always taken the stance of business. He said, I showed up, I did my part, I came to the building, I was prepared. Whatever happened, the battle couldn't happen. That has nothing to do with me. That's on y'. All.

[C]

So if you want.

[B]

Now, if you're asking me to come back and rebattle him, you gotta pay me the other portion that you owe me, and then you have to rebook me.

[C]

So I have two questions with that. Cause one, you're saying, whatever happened is not on me, it's on y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

But he had the seizure.

[B]

Yeah, I'm Talking about another incident.

[A]

Oh, the other incident for you. But why this is intriguing is because T. Rex had a seizure mid battle.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And my understanding is that he hasn't been paid. Cause he goes on to say that Smack Beasley had mad shit wrong with his contract. They should have had EMTs on the scene. They should have had. Of course. They said. He said, when I got there, the building was past capacity already, and I'm there with 20 niggas. By law, you not even supposed to let us in the building this way. That's what he said.

[C]

No, I'm just saying he's saying that.

[A]

Go ahead. Go ahead. I guess he's just trying to talk in his legal jargon to make his point. Point. I just think it's interesting.

[C]

Morally, it is a thousand percent. I don't. Y' all know this not my necessary.

[A]

If you come to the event and have a heart attack so you don't finish the battle and I haven't paid you yet.

[C]

That's where I'm stuck at. But that's his point. His point is I shouldn't have opened my mouth.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Until I got my money. Because I don't know what their contract say. But he just said the contract says when I show up, I'm supposed to get paid. You know how when you used to do gigs, nigga don't even get out the car. That money.

[A]

Well, that's why this point is moot.

[B]

They changed the contract. They changed the contract. At one point, if you're not able.

[D]

To perform, if you choke.

[B]

I don't know about that one. But at one point, like, if you choke, remember a lot of was choking. You're not getting your other half. Or we're deducting some money.

[C]

But he just said that. I don't know it, but he just said, yo, I'm. My contract states when I show up.

[B]

Yes, that's true.

[C]

If that is the case, because we boys. I'm like, yo, just pay me later. Cause we boys. If it's strangers as a promoter in Oklahoma that I don't know, I'm gonna get my money before I get out the car, before I walk in.

[A]

Okay. So you're coming in the building unpaid.

[C]

Unpaid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you started this battle unpaid. Then you had a major health condition, and we're unable to finish the battle unpaid.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Is it totally off base for Beasley to think. Think we have. We got to do this battle because I still got to pay you. You didn't finish the battle. I have your money, and you didn't finish the battle. I want to give it to you.

[C]

So finish the battle. So what you're saying, I think that's.

[A]

What the discrepancy is.

[C]

But he's saying it's other shit that I've done for you that went around with the contract states. So you can't have it on both ways. You can't have it that when it benefits you, you. We can circumvent the contract. But then when it benefits you, we gotta stick to the letter of the law of the contract. You can't have it both ways. And it happens like that with niggas that have leverage. A lot of times, the boss or the nigga with the most money or whatever the case it may be, will have the leverage and pull that.

[A]

But it's nobody's job to make T. Rex go by proper protocol. That's not Beasley's job. That's T. Rex's job.

[C]

True.

[A]

So if he came in the building and started rapping without getting paid, he can't later say, I was supposed to get paid before I came in the building.

[C]

I agree with that. Even though you look. You look past it for the friend aspect. And you. What you're expecting is somebody to also look out. Look out. No. That's what you're expecting. Yo, I did you. Basically, I did you a solid. I did right by the. You shaking your head no, but this is what he did. If my contract says I don't get paid, I mean, I get paid on the walk in, or I don't even walk in without getting paid. Like, I've been to battles with my brother, brother. Artist's not going on that stage until he got that money. Until that money is taken care of.

[B]

They do that.

[C]

And if you do now go on that stage for whatever reason prior to that money getting. You getting that money. Yeah, you already stepped in there. Now, the quote, unquote, right thing to do is to still pay you, but they don't owe you that, though. That is just the right thing.

[B]

The wretched thing is that I had a seizure on the stage. You my man.

[C]

That's fucking true.

[B]

Rex thinks that I had a seizure on the stage. Give me something like, nigga, look out. Cause I had a seizure on the stage, look out. Now, if you wanna go the legal route by saying that, yo, hey, you didn't complete the battle, so I don't have to pay you, then I'm gonna go the legal route and say, well, these are the things that were missing here. If you wanna go that Route. These are the things that are missing. My contract says this. You didn't do that. I looked out. Cause you my man. And if you wanna go that route.

[C]

If you wanna say I didn't compromise with him.

[D]

Is that the order that it went.

[C]

Bro, honor the contract. Say it again.

[D]

Is that the order that it went?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That I went to rock side.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Honor.

[B]

Rex feel. Rex feel like, yo, I can't. Rex feels like, yo, I came in here. You know how I usually do it. Rex get. Always get his other. He gets his deposit and always gets his other half when he walks in. He said, I didn't even do that. And he said just cuz I have a seizure. You just still in your heart as my man, as my if do the right thing. Now. If you talking about about contractual that you didn't complete the battle, so I'm not paying you, then let's go based off the contract. So that's. It's a. I'm with you.

[C]

Because if you're saying go off the battle because you didn't pay, you didn't complete the battle, fine, we'll do that. I'll eat that. But now you have to rebook me again. Then if you want me to battle again, we have to die.

[A]

And that's what Rex is saying.

[C]

And I'm with that.

[A]

Oh, hell, y' all crazy as hell.

[C]

I'm with that. No, I'm saying we going by the contract.

[A]

We go by the contract.

[B]

I don't agree with the whole rehearsal thing neither.

[A]

So in either the outcomes. And I'm not gonna drag this. Cause I don't know how important this is to people out there, but it's.

[C]

A business combo forget. You know, we can still have it.

[A]

In any of the other scenarios, Bees gets fucked then. Cause if he does things the right way. Here, here's your money. Before you walk in, you have a seizure or a heart attack, you can't finish the battle. Bees don't get a battle, the crowd don't get a battle. I have to rebook you to get the battle I paid for already. Okay, cool. Or you could come in here, you have your seizure, now I'm your man. So I give you the money anyway and now I still got to rebook a battle and pay you again.

[C]

No, I thought he wasn't. He saying if you.

[D]

Look, just give me something.

[C]

Yeah, just give me something. And now we could do that. I'm not talking about. This is packages. Y. My biggest thing is what does the contract say? Yeah, that's my biggest Thing if the contract says you, yo, you have to finish your battle in a certain manner, like Flip said, where you don't choke or whatever the case may be. And then you get paid.

[A]

If I have a heart attack. And then my man looks at me and says, what does this contract say? I'm a punch you in your face. Cool.

[C]

But if, but, but if I have a.

[A]

If I have a heart attack, I don't care what the contract is. If you're my man. Send, send, send it, send it. Yeah, I'm up. And I don't know that T. Rex is up.

[C]

I'm just saying in the event you don't. We don't. We don't talk about shit else unless we talk about some bread first. Sure.

[A]

Which is what T. Rex is saying.

[C]

And that's what he said.

[A]

I'll never be on the stage again unless we.

[C]

You have to book me now. I'm not doing that battle. I'm not doing shit else. We're gonna talk about some bread first.

[B]

And he brought the Sean shit too. Yeah. Like Sean wasn't able to go nowhere until he completed a certain amount of battles for you guys.

[C]

Contractually.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Contractually.

[C]

Honor this contract first. Okay, fine then. And until we honor this, we ain't got nothing to talk about. And I'm with Rex on that. That sense. Would you do that?

[B]

Joe, if you have somewhere to show up, you got paid for it. And then something happened and let's remove the relationship off the. Off the. Off the table. Something happened. Would you tell the company that, yo, you have to rebook me or would you just go up there like when you feeling better or whatever happens and just do the obligation.

[A]

I mean save some.

[B]

Somebody that has it. Say it's a company that has.

[C]

Has it.

[A]

You got, you.

[B]

You got your.

[A]

I do business like that, I would complete the gift.

[B]

You would complete. I'm saying you. So you would.

[A]

I'm completing the job. I'm not going to make anybody rebook me. Not to say that that's the wrong way to do. I'm. If for me. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not a long lasting relationship.

[C]

But if they playing with you and not taking care of you, then okay, if we only business, then we only business. You have to book me now. Now we not talking as friends. And that's what he said. And that's what Rex is saying. I'm not mad.

[A]

Relationship is over, period.

[B]

That's what it sounds like.

[C]

That take care of me. The relationship was over once I had a heart Attack. And you told me, out of here on my bread. Honestly, if you. My man, the relationship, the friendship is over at that point.

[B]

Well, I don't think he said, out of there. I think Beasley just wants you to come completely. I don't think.

[C]

I just want you to come back for free and do another battle.

[A]

Somebody came to and had a health condition and had to leave for half the day. There's not a world where I would call them and say, I'm Doc. I'll pay you half the day.

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

That's just. That's not who I am.

[C]

Exactly. Exactly. And that's what I was about to say when you took the other side of that. I thought you was taking the other side of it at first, like, yo, dog.

[A]

And. And.

[C]

And. And for me, we gentlemen, right? So we gonna play a gentleman's game. We gonna conduct business as gentlemen until I see that we're not gentlemen gentleman anymore. So once it's not gentlemanly, now all bets is off. We're gonna stick to the letter of the law. And so that. That's how I conduct business in my real life. Like, dog, we. We gentlemen.

[D]

That's why I said that was the order.

[C]

Until you show me that we're not.

[D]

Because if that's the order, then, yeah, like, yeah, okay.

[C]

Oh, this is how we playing now.

[D]

Okay, cool.

[A]

Sure. I don't want to go back to the Grammys, but Will I am who I listen to.

[C]

Probably one of the last years where.

[A]

It'S only Will I am says, this is one of the last years that we'll have human interaction, so you better enjoy it. And I don't think he's far off.

[C]

He ain't far off.

[B]

And the reason why I'm here at.

[C]

The red carpet at the Grammys 2026, because I predict that this is probably one of the last years where it's only humans on the red carpet.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Just like if you were to go out and absorb what the world is like in 2022. 2022 is one of the last years where it was only humans driving cars on the streets.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now there's wayos on the streets. And just like there's wayos on the streets where there's no human driving the vehicles.

[B]

Fully autonomous, level five autonomy.

[C]

There will be level five artistry, and that level five artistry will be agents.

[B]

And robots, and that agent and robot.

[C]

Will be here on the red carpet before 2030. An AP would be like, hey, whatever the name of that bot is. And then it Will be telling you, like, the things that it's done and what it's working on. Yeah.

[B]

I mean.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

He's not. Yeah.

[C]

He's not all the way wrong. When I went to Atlanta for Invest Fest, we don't have it as much up here, bro. They got them. Them cabs are in abundance in Atlanta. We don't really got them up here like that down there. That was normal. That shit was normal down there. I was like, damn.

[D]

I saw the clickbaitiness of that. That interview, and I didn't watch it for that reason, but I agree. Because he said, words only humans. That's a very important distinction.

[C]

Yeah. They make it seem like ain't gonna be no human.

[D]

And I think what the reality of how it will look sooner than later is more like the girl that did the interview with Gayle King being on the red carpet. Because that's the reality of AI as we deal with it now is just some dude using technology as a likeness visually and audibly. But it's really a dude or a female creating the shit. And that will be the person that's representing on the carpet.

[A]

Lastly, with the Grammys, Did y' all see all what Wayne had to say?

[C]

Just pull it out.

[A]

See what Wayne had to say about it?

[C]

I got it.

[D]

Forgot about Carol G. And that whole girls that look at the Grammys like.

[C]

Oh, yeah, we did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, sorry.

[A]

Get. Yeah.

[C]

Wayne, he said congrats to all the nominees and winners wasn't included, as usual. I got to work harder as usual. One time for my slum Bill. Belly to my Belichick.

[A]

Always Bill Belichick, who they are not letting in the hall of Fame.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At all.

[C]

Which I now for the first ballot.

[B]

Yeah, first ballot.

[A]

No, you don't. You can't make sense of that.

[B]

I'm not saying I would vote that way, but if they're saying. If they're saying, look, we gotta give you a little tap tap because we believe you cheated and so we're not gonna vote for you the first round.

[A]

But no one has said that. That's just what we're guessing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's what I'm saying. If that's the reason I'm saying I understand, then you get it.

[D]

I think you should say it on business to say that, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I still don't get it. I still don't get it. Yo, dawg, how many rings they got? 7.

[A]

8. Bill has 8.

[C]

8.

[D]

He has 8.

[A]

2 as a DC, I cheated.

[C]

6 is a DC I cheated all of them.

[B]

How many you gotta cheat to get punished though?

[D]

But prove I cheated, stand on business, say it. Otherwise you look like a coward, quite frankly.

[B]

I'm just saying I understand the logic of it. Like again, like, I think he's a dick.

[A]

You know why you can't. You know why you can't defend that logic? You don't think they're going to do that to Tom, do you?

[B]

That's an interesting question.

[A]

No.

[C]

And that was the answer. The answer is no.

[A]

Would you.

[C]

Would you.

[B]

Would you hold time and this is a football question for you because I don't know the answer. Would Tom be held as accountable? Accountable for. For a cheating scandal?

[D]

They were deflating balls for him because he liked the balls deflated.

[C]

He was the one that was.

[B]

Yeah, so he doesn't have plausible deniability. He can't be like, they did this shit. I had nothing to do with it. He could. Maybe that might be the reason why they might justify.

[C]

But if he could, then Bill could.

[A]

No. Wasn't that part of the ball boy scandal where it was Tom's personal.

[B]

I'm asking. Cause I don't know. Okay, then. Yeah. Then they should do it to Tom too.

[A]

Tom is a First Battle hall of Famer for sure. It will burn that hard down.

[C]

Here he comes.

[A]

Available.

[C]

He's going to be the first name, first battle unanimous. We got time and who else we got.

[A]

And it's for that reason that the.

[B]

Rest of that then you're right. If they're going to hold a double standard.

[C]

He's a dick. Bill Belichick is a dick. And I think they trying to punish him like, aha, you've been a dick to us and this is our chance for the get back. Yeah.

[D]

Because the voters are press primarily and he was not a press darling by any stretch of the imagination.

[A]

I mean, okay, but Robert Crash oppressed.

[C]

Darling though compared to Bill Joe, he's got personality. He's one of the only owners that really you see visibly out doing. He'd be outside getting his D. Anyway, the reporters I spoke, he got caught in the rubbing tug with, you know, I mean down at the Super Bowl.

[B]

Turnover priest.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Robert Crash should be in the hall of Fame.

[D]

Of course he should.

[B]

I get you Parks, though, standing on business part because I've talked to a couple reporters who have said they weren't voters, but they said that the voters they spoke to. So this is secondhand.

[D]

That's what I've heard too.

[B]

Yeah. But they've said, they've said very clearly that that's the reason.

[D]

Yeah. So say stay on business.

[B]

I respect that. Yeah. That's the deal with Pete Rose.

[A]

We were talking about something before I derailed us.

[C]

Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne. Do y' all agree that he was left out?

[D]

What Wayne was supposed to be on stop Carter 6. What way was supposed to be on? Respectfully, I love. And I think he's been absolutely killing it.

[B]

He said that album should have been nominated.

[C]

Nominated. He wasn't included in the Grammy. Chance has a fight.

[A]

But he did say, I need to work harder. I need to work harder.

[C]

Politically correct as usual. But he said this is a normal thing. He's been nominated over 20 something times. He has five Grammys.

[D]

So he's saying he's underappreciated by the Grammys. I will absolutely admit that. I don't think this was for that, though. Yeah.

[B]

This was not one of them times.

[C]

Respectfully.

[D]

Respectfully.

[B]

I mean, I forgot that album came out. And that's probably for the. The best.

[A]

How many Grammys Does Wayne have?

[C]

5.

[A]

5.

[D]

Which is not bad, by the way.

[A]

Take a bow then.

[B]

Five is a lot of Grammys.

[C]

How many?

[A]

Got your five. Grab your glass cleaner, your Windex, whatever you clean it with.

[C]

Go dust them off.

[A]

Yeah, go. You. You got it. You got five of them.

[B]

Yeah, you got five.

[A]

What you.

[B]

I don't know how anybody could hear that album.

[A]

No need to be gluttonous. Right?

[D]

Right.

[A]

You can hear you. You did it.

[D]

No need to be.

[C]

I'm not gonna hold you. Yo, I think it's something there. Yo, Even when the Kendrick announcement. You had to say something. Kendrick wins. It wasn't until that. Like, I think it's something. I could be reaching, but I think this is a Kendrick thing. I think it's just keep seeing Kendrick win. Every time Kendrick pop up with something, here come Wayne.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I don't know. I'm just. It could be something else there.

[D]

Nothing turn.

[A]

I'd be trying to see it through. I can't because they. It's another level that they just were on musically. But I'd be trying to see it through the eyes of someone who was the best rapper in the world. Universally. That was the. And then now you have to look at somebody else kind of be that and how you'll behave as you watch that.

[C]

But not just that.

[A]

It would have to be that tough.

[C]

Look, look. Not just that.

[A]

I'm trying to have some grace.

[C]

While I was. While I was the best rapper. I didn't get none of what you getting like this.

[A]

That's not fair.

[C]

But I'm just saying. Look from those eyes, though. While I was number one in the world.

[A]

No, but that's no musician in Grammy history. San Stevie Wonder has gotten what Kendrick has got.

[C]

I'm not just talking about the Grammys. I'm talking about, like, Super Bowl. I'm talking. There's things. But for Wayne. I ran hip hop. I had hip hop on my back for years. Still unfair. It is apples and oranges. Let me just get to my point. What I'm trying to say. I'm looking at it from Wayne's point of view, where I was the man, I'm no longer the man. And now I'm watching the man. And y' all are holding him up in a way that I've never been held up. It could be some type of. It could be something there.

[D]

I think we've always held up Wayne as one of the goats, as anybody within the culture or commentary on him. Hip hop, if you don't. I don't really take you seriously. But I think, that being said, most of his major run was mixtape. And unfortunately, that does not align you to be qualified in these categories, at least at that time. Specifically now with the chance record 10 years ago has changed a little bit.

[C]

But I'm not even talking about mixtape. I'm talking about Carter 2, Carter 3 Wayne. I'm talking about what I was still fishing.

[B]

Where Kendrick is right now.

[C]

No, Carter 3 Wayne was something.

[B]

No, I'm talking about talent wise. I'm talking about attention, mainstream attention.

[C]

To Parks's point, when you start putting Wayne as the best rapper in the world, the Grammy board might not be listening to mixtapes that solidified that position.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

Not just that. When you start talking about Kendrick Lamar as a representation of hip hop and as a representation of black America, he and Lil Wayne are on opposite sides of that space spectrum, bro. To anybody with eyes, he also won best rap album. Carter 3 was it.

[D]

It was represented.

[C]

He was representing solo performance for Millie. Best rap song for Millie.

[D]

He was represented when he was supposed.

[C]

To be represented at the height of his career.

[B]

Yeah, but to Ice's point, most artists still feel slighted. They still don't feel like they got enough.

[C]

Yeah, that's all.

[B]

Whether it's fair or not. Because I agree with y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

I think it's apples and oranges on the mixtape versus the mainstream.

[A]

Does how an artist does how an artist's age matter to y'?

[C]

All? How an artist presents themselves, bro? No, just. I don't want to be disrespectful But a lot of people, when they think of Lil Wayne, they start thinking about his issues, the troubles, all of that stuff. People be scared to put him on the stage sometimes because you never know which Wayne is going to show up on the stage. I'm not being disrespectful to the man at all. We love Lil Wayne, but dog, the Grammy board got something to think about about. That was the conversation around the Super Bowl.

[B]

Super Bowl.

[C]

That was the conversation.

[A]

Wayne, go do a comedy album, man.

[B]

Real quick. I just read it. It says Drake only got five Grammys. It's kind of surprising to me.

[C]

Drake don't with him.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's young money in general. Just don't like saying, like five Grammys.

[C]

Don't with them.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[A]

I. And Nikki has zero Nikki.

[B]

That's what to me, if anybody got a gripe is Nikki. I mean, Nikki deserves Nikki. Andre, Nicki not having Grammys is crazy. She deserves how many.

[C]

Yay. Got.

[D]

Totally. So.

[A]

Oh, he's on the all time.

[B]

All time.

[A]

He's on the time list.

[C]

If that's the case, then Drake and Nikki have fights for sure.

[B]

Well, K also has producer credit. I mean, there's a lot. Yeah, yeah, he got.

[C]

I'm just saying Drake and. And. And Nikki have a fight for sure. If drake only has five and Nikki has zero over the last 15 years.

[A]

They have check Drake only having five grams.

[D]

I just googled it.

[C]

That's what Flip just said.

[D]

I think that's accurate.

[B]

Flip said it.

[D]

It's true.

[B]

I saw it when he was. I'm Grant. Drake has won five Grammy Awards from 55 nominations throughout his career.

[C]

See, that's a problem.

[A]

That's sick.

[C]

That's a problem.

[A]

But I mean, honestly, I think that's part of what made the Grammys course correct.

[C]

Maybe.

[A]

Yeah. They got a lot wrong. That regime got a lot wrong for a lot of years.

[C]

It's a great point. So, yeah, this is part of the mistake. Nominations and I only won five awards.

[B]

He had a lot of joy.

[A]

If I was homeboy from the Grammys, I would just go drop 10 off at Drake door on the strength.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Forgot about.

[C]

We going to make these up. We going to make these up.

[A]

Y' all think you ever see Drake at the Grammys again? Ever?

[D]

Yeah, something.

[C]

Now you will. Yeah, now.

[A]

Now you will. If he get that 10, you got to drop that 10 in his.

[C]

No, if he make up with Universal, like, I think if he and Universal like get back into Chummy Chum Lane and he put out a good project. I think they'll make it up to him. Like, yo, you just gonna run? Yeah, they gonna give him the big one. You gonna run? Take, take. Yeah, take this.

[A]

I'm shocked that y' all said that.

[C]

I think so.

[A]

I'm shocked y' all said that.

[C]

I don't think that he'll ever make up with them. But I said, if he makes up with them and he puts out a.

[A]

Good project next year. Grammys. Do you think Drake will be there representing Iceman?

[C]

No. Depending on.

[D]

Depends.

[C]

No, I don't think.

[D]

Depends on the music.

[C]

It depends on.

[B]

I think that's a solid.

[C]

No, I think it depends on how the music.

[A]

I feel like next year, even if he get 55 nominations, he gotta stay at home.

[C]

And I don't think that's what I'm saying. And let me be clear. I don't think they're gonna nominate him that much after that last Grammy speech where he won. When he was up there holding award, telling people, yo, these don't mean. He literally was saying, yo, to everybody out there. Keep working, you're winning. As long as millions of people are saying your lyrics word for word, that's a win. This don't mean nothing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

When you stand there and say that, they like, all right, cool. Next.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yo, go drop 10 of them off.

[C]

But if y' all ain't. If y' all ain't short me, I wouldn't even be up. No, I agree. I agree. But the fact that you make that.

[A]

Stance now, I almost want to know what songs Drake won for.

[D]

To only have God's Plan.

[A]

That's disrespect.

[D]

Hotline.

[B]

Best rap. Best Rap Album, Take care.

[A]

Never mind.

[B]

Best Rap song.

[D]

Wait for you.

[B]

It says the Monster. I don't know who the that is.

[A]

They gave him a Grammy for the Thames Joint.

[B]

Hotline Bling. Okay. That doesn't surprise me.

[A]

That's a fact. They couldn't lie about that one.

[B]

Yeah, that shit was.

[A]

That's undeniable.

[B]

Best Rap song, God's Plan, and Best Melodic Rap Performance. Wait for your 20.

[A]

25.

[C]

No, no, no. The five awards were Take Care Album, Album, Album, Flip Yourself Rap Song, and Rap Song Performance. Both Hotline Bling and Rap Song. Rap performance, both gospel and Rap Song.

[B]

And the Monster, too. I don't know why they got it up there.

[A]

All right, it's fine.

[C]

It don't matter.

[A]

It's fine. He won't be there.

[C]

Five is.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's disrespectful. He Shouldn't.

[A]

Yeah, he should.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It should reword it.

[D]

It should be more without a question.

[C]

Nikki's been nominated 12 times with zero even from best new Artist all the way up.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy to me. Nikki, Nicki. That's off. I mean. Yeah, that's off.

[A]

Yeah, but that's a tough. The list was going around all the rappers to never win a Grammy. It's a tough list. It's a tough list of mcs.

[B]

I mean, not saying a long time without a Grammy.

[A]

Yeah, he did. Yeah.

[B]

How many Grammys Jay got?

[A]

Long time.

[D]

Jay's got a lot.

[B]

Jay had the most until the session.

[C]

25. Kendrick got 27.

[B]

Kendrick just passed Jay.

[A]

Like, I do feel like the Grammys should kind of add like they'll never do it, but add like a retroactive Grammy.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

Hey, they just did.

[C]

We fucked up.

[A]

We missed this one. Yeah, we.

[C]

We missed this.

[A]

We missed this one year for sure.

[B]

And that's where some of them all time career joints that the one Cher got is going to come. Like the lifetime achievement one.

[C]

True.

[B]

There's some rappers that's going to get that soon.

[C]

Lonely lunge.

[A]

Cherry Shepard deserves the same courtesy as Kelly Clarkson to announce show. Ooh, we getting tea. Because Sherri Shepherd's show ended. Kelly Clarkson's show ended. Sherri shepherd after four seasons. Kelly Clarkson after seven seasons.

[C]

Sherry took over after Wendy.

[A]

Right? Sherry took over after Wendy. Wendy and had signed a contract that had her working through the 25, 26 season. Okay, so a lot of fan. To a lot of fans, this was unexpected. Lonnie Love says Sherry should have been given the courtesy of announcing her show's end instead of an article announcing it. Just like Kelly got to announce her show's end. It's not the real which was a panel show, but this was a solo hosted show. Or the production company could have at least made a joint announcement. As a producer and host, seeing canceled stamped all over your picture is depressing, especially when the show was having good ratings. Only onward and upward from here. Sherri shepherd, she wrote that. No, Lonnie Love wrote that. Lonnie Love wrote that.

[B]

I agree. You know, somebody said many shows canceled. I can tell you, you always want the opportunity to take a bow to your audience. You always want the opportunity to announce it on your own terms, to frame it the way you want. I mean, I thought the production company did a decent job of saying, hey, we believe in this show still. We want to put it on other platforms. We want to explore, you know, opportunities to Put it elsewhere, maybe stream it, maybe make it a podcast. I don't know what their options are. That might just be bullshit. But regardless, they're saying we still love Cheri and believe in her, which is a good thing. But the artist or the presenter, the host, whatever, should be able to say that themselves. I agree with Lonnie 100% on that.

[C]

You said the show was controversial. Contracted to 25, 26, right?

[A]

Yeah. And they're still going to air, so.

[C]

They didn't just clip it. They just said we're not renewing.

[A]

They're still gonna air. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's all the more reason why she should be able to go on the show.

[C]

They did that wrong.

[B]

Lauren LaRosa said that Jennifer. She got from a source. Jennifer Hudson show is the next cancellation.

[A]

Maybe the next cancellation, and I'm tagging that as gossip. I need. I need more than Lauren. Lauren DeRozan. And no I with her. But you know I'm bad with that. I know. But yeah, I need more than a source told me Jennifer Hudson is on the chopping block.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm a hold off on that.

[B]

Got you. But. But I.

[A]

Even though I told y', all, like, Lauren is a. I respect her and I with her. I'm sure she has her sources. I'm gonna wait to get more facts. I got you. Before I say anything about it, but I'm worried. But I did tell you, you that the spirit tunnel was losing spirits.

[D]

Say that.

[A]

You say that for real. You said that. But that was when I thought, like, some of the. The D list celebrities was there. But it's a list dead. And the spirit tunnel is still. Oh, and I'm going to miss it.

[B]

I mean, I'm not going to lie to you.

[A]

I'm going to miss it.

[B]

The spirit tunnel or the show?

[A]

The spirit tunnel.

[C]

You should do the show.

[A]

Yeah, I should do what show?

[C]

So you can do the spirit tone. Shit, Joe.

[D]

But you would be good in spirit.

[A]

You know, it's good. Funny, I seen. I seen Skills due to spirits on him, so I pulled the phone close to my face to watch him make a fool of himself. But he didn't. He smoked that one.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[A]

So then by the end, I was a fan, man.

[B]

Skill.

[A]

He scaling that a little bit, I would look like a total doofus up there.

[D]

That was pretty tough.

[A]

I got two left feet.

[D]

I mean, it's spoken words.

[A]

Spoken word, right. Grammy Skills cracking cold. I've been. I've been saying I want to do that album for 17 years. Sneak in, get that spoken word.

[B]

Well, took the words out my mouth. Some spoken word artist was on fire. This today. I seen people posting on social media very upset with the skill. Got the spoken word on board. They basically were like, we've been doing this as a craft for years. And now rappers who don't make it make a spoken word album as a kind of backdoor way to get a Grammy and get the recognition that they wanted as rappers.

[A]

Ta da.

[C]

Fuck.

[A]

Got him. That's fucked up.

[B]

I mean, I'm not saying that's true. And I love Skills. I'm just saying that is a big backlash in the poetry community is rap.

[A]

I would only need. I would want to know. I would only need to hear that from people in that community that have been nominated.

[B]

Well, it's a new category. That's the problem. And they're basically saying, like they finally made a category for us. And then here come the rappers to take, you know, to just say they rap slow.

[A]

It is fucked up.

[C]

Is it?

[A]

But I love it.

[C]

I'm on. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not trying to be a dick. Is it?

[A]

I think it's fucked up.

[C]

Take the beat away. What's that? If you take. You heard Kanye at deaf poetry that man. I promise. She's so self conscious, bro. It's a poem. When you add the beat and you add the I don't know that shit y' all do. Then it becomes a song. But if you take the beat away and all. No. So why would they not be correct for being nominated? It's still my same talent.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I'm saying I agree with the gripe. You rapped over beat your whole career. Career.

[C]

No, I didn't. I might write.

[D]

This would be like what if. What if Taylor Swift dropped a rap album tomorrow? We'd be pissed if she won the best rap album.

[C]

Yes, I would. No, I'm saying it's not the same because the. The spoken word. There are a lot of rappers that are poets. You don't know that if they a poet or not, that the category is brand new. So my entry is here. I am a poet and I'm a rapper too. You can't just necessarily put me in one box.

[A]

You're making sense. I'm just telling you I would be mad.

[D]

But I'm also happy for Skills.

[A]

I'm have real happiness.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

And I plan to follow right up next year. Spoken word album.

[D]

This is his Second one or better club, too.

[B]

So it's his first win, I think. I think.

[D]

No, I'm saying it's the second or third spoken word album. Yeah, he's been doing this for a little bit.

[B]

He's been doing. So let me take it off Skills for a minute, because I like Skills. I respect Skills as a rapper, as a ghostwriter, as a poet. You know, this isn't about him for me, but I. There is a difference between just taking your rap, slowing it down. Like, spoken word has its own culture, its own genre. It has its own way of performing that. I find when rappers do it, they literally just. Like you gave a great example when Kanye is doing the All Falls Down. That first All Falls down verse, it's very much like a rap verse, a very traditional rap verse, even in terms of the rhyme scheme, whereas spoken word artists go in a lot of directions. It's more complicated, it's more nuanced, and it gets a lot people to me that that's the hardest spoken word, especially since 2000.

[D]

You know, take your pentameter somewhere else, man. Let Mad Skills get his w.

[C]

Different flows. But I don't want to take it off him because he's the one that won, and this ain't his.

[B]

I'm saying I understand the gripe. Outside of Skills, I don't want to make. Because if I. If I defend, it's gonna keep those.

[A]

Your. Them spoken words.

[B]

I love Skills, too.

[A]

You want to get in there, get your ass. That's.

[B]

Walk over there. Let me tell you something. This got it done.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

In 2002. Black Lily, five spot.

[A]

If you want.

[C]

99 was lit.

[A]

95, right. Keep going back. Yeah.

[C]

This is third one.

[A]

Every man better have that in his head. Just. Just ready at all times the year you could freely speak about. And before then.

[B]

Yes. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Around. Say that wrong year if you want.

[B]

Oh, my Lord 90s. I'm Scott Freedman.

[A]

Yeah, same.

[C]

Have a spirited conversation. What you said you did in 2017.

[B]

Loving you.

[C]

That's it, that's it, that's it.

[A]

That's all that I wanna do. Mark, how things going with your spirit of conversation?

[B]

Great, man.

[A]

I ain't heard nothing about Toso Loco in a while.

[B]

Yeah, man. Life is good, man.

[C]

You know how highest voice got. Left that party alone, boy.

[A]

She let him back in the house.

[B]

Yeah, I'm back in. No, I'm back in the house. Life is good, man. You know, married life is. Y' all know how it is being coupled up, partnered up, enjoying life. I Ain't got no complaints. How about y'? All? Amazing.

[C]

Silky smooth. Great.

[A]

Peaceful. Peaceful. Happy. Happy and in love. No fights? No arguments?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

I even just randomly the other day. Yo, man, you ain't too shabby, man. You know what?

[C]

You all right.

[A]

I ain't going to hold you unprompted.

[C]

You ain't had bad.

[A]

Hey, when we all ain't. I really can't see life without you. Y' all gotta be dead ass. I gotta be dead ass about it, man. I do love your stupid ass head. I saw the clip of you and your wife of.

[B]

Oh, I was about to say they were her ass to the Internet.

[D]

Wait, why?

[A]

Play the clip. Play the mark clip. See, I thought that that mark wife ain't playing with him no more since Toso Loco and all that. So that's really what the bottom line is. So she is really serving it to him on multiple issues. One, the last name during marriage thing. She put belt to ass with him.

[C]

She spanked him on that one.

[A]

Belt to ass. He lost his voice. He muted up. He didn't say a word. And the sharing. Sharing your digital location. Your location digital usually. She muted him up. She muted him up there. Ended him. He didn't really have much to say on that topic either.

[C]

Comedic wit.

[B]

I'm talking again.

[C]

The voice come back.

[A]

No, it's. No, it was bad.

[B]

In the first two weeks of the show asking why we don't have the same last name. I think people also don't realize that.

[C]

Much of the world does not change their name. We also have to think about the.

[B]

History of why people change their names.

[C]

Because you had dominion over me, the children, the house.

[B]

Like we were all part of your property, essentially. So there's different levels of location sharing.

[A]

You let her get that off.

[B]

Completely new to me. It's not even something that we ever considered. I don't share my location with anyone. I just don't need to do that.

[C]

And I don't want to do that.

[B]

I don't want to feel like I'm being surveilled. So when you go out with your.

[A]

Girlfriend to the spot bodying you, why.

[C]

You need to track me?

[B]

I just told you where I'm low.

[C]

Mind your business and don't ask again.

[B]

You say this with your chest. Stop. Now I get why you. Now I get why you come in here and turn up on us. You can't turn all the you want.

[C]

To say at home.

[B]

You say to us, I'm taking it. I get abused at home. Take it out of you.

[C]

That's what they do.

[B]

She does not play. So the clip. First of all, the clip is from our podcast in this thing together Patreon channel.

[A]

Check it out.

[B]

Check it out.

[A]

Fire.

[B]

I gave responses to both of those things. I just thought they were less spicy. For the. For the real. First of all, we both agree on the last name thing. I don't want my wife to have my last name.

[A]

Really.

[B]

No, no, I know. You know why? You talked about it in your.

[C]

She got a bigger foot than him. She put it down.

[A]

I've never.

[C]

Why. Why would I want my wife to.

[B]

Have my last name? Stop.

[C]

Take her last name.

[B]

For real.

[D]

I agree.

[B]

Yeah. Thank you, Parks. No. What's the reason? I don't. You can't just say you agree.

[D]

I can say that I agree.

[B]

No, you're saying you agree because what your wife. No disrespect. Your wives are saying that I don't want to take your last name. Is that why you agreeing because you don't want to have the fight. Before I met my wife, I didn't want somebody to have my last urinate. So what's the reason?

[D]

I encouraged my wife to keep her last name.

[A]

You don't have to urinate. Don't.

[C]

He don't.

[A]

Don't kick me.

[B]

And he got a 60 year old prostate. He might.

[D]

But I think it's. I think it's fine for her to maintain her own identity because she wants to.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

She.

[D]

She wants to.

[B]

You.

[D]

She actually wanted to take my last.

[B]

Name and you told him not to.

[D]

I said, you don't do that.

[A]

And these married be getting up.

[B]

Last name. And I'm married. What the y' all talking about?

[D]

My mom doesn't have my dad's last name. I grew up in. This is like normal. My sisters don't have their husband's last name.

[B]

That's they thing we just don't want.

[A]

It's like a buffalo law.

[B]

Why should she have my last name? Tell me that.

[A]

Cuz you got a dick. No.

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay. You reversed a lot of.

[A]

I don't know why.

[B]

No, I'm just saying traditionally, in tradition, right. Wives take the husband's last name.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

Would you say that in, In. In America?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there are a lot of traditions. Yeah. But I'm just saying, like my point is there's other ways to do it and I. I don't want to do that. And I don't see any reason. I don't see any reason to do that.

[A]

No, that's true.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

What reason would that. Come on.

[B]

Yeah, we both. What I'm saying is, before I ever met my wife, I didn't want my future wife to have only the children, though the children, we share names. We have hyp. My children are hyphenated. All my children are hyphenated for that reason. Because they're both of us. It's not my property.

[C]

Did you do anything traditionally? Why you going to karate? Didn't he just say I wasn't doing it?

[B]

This is why you gonna box it.

[A]

Them bright niggas he's talking about.

[B]

What I'm saying. My kids are hyphenated. That's his thing.

[C]

Okay. Did your wife hyphenate or no?

[B]

No, and I'm not hyphenated. Neither of us are hyphenated. We put the children. You have your father's last name, right? Yeah. Okay. But the children are hyphenated, and my father has. I mean, like, tradition. Yeah. Yes. My father also has the name of his slave owner.

[A]

Like, you can break a tradition just.

[B]

Cause you have a tradition.

[A]

Just cause you got a traditional, you.

[B]

Gotta keep doing that shit. Don't go there.

[D]

Mark.

[C]

My question was, did y' all get married at a church or anything like that? Did y' all do anything else traditional in terms of your marriage or your wedding?

[B]

Jump over the broom. No, but I'm not against tradition. I'm saying I just don't believe that every tradition, you have to keep going. Exactly.

[C]

You just didn't like that.

[B]

No, there's other traditions I'm sure we don't believe in as well. I'm just saying, like, just because you've been doing something for a long time doesn't mean you have to keep doing it. Because some traditions aren't healthy. And some traditions don't work for everybody.

[C]

So you're.

[A]

So you are technically the end of your lineage?

[B]

Well, no.

[C]

He got. The kid got both last names.

[B]

My son has the same. I sure. Then, I mean, I. I mean, there are other hills in my house. I mean, in my family, I have siblings. You know what I mean? So.

[A]

But y' all are the last line of hills.

[B]

Well, no, And.

[A]

And solely hills.

[B]

I'm saying I have. I have siblings who. Whose last. Whose children do.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But yes, if. If I were an only child, then, yes, it'd be the end of my life lineage, which I'm okay with. I'm okay with it. No more hills. The hills go back, like, four generations, and it goes to Laderk, Meriwether, Hill the slave master in Georgia. Like, I'm good with that. I'm good if it ends.

[C]

I was the same way, like. Cause on my end, I'm the last. Like, well, then my daughter has my last name now, but there's no telling when she has children. She'll be married. You know how that.

[B]

Unless she decides to keep her name.

[C]

But there's no other.

[A]

Like, have y' all had that talk?

[C]

What?

[A]

About you and yours. Have y' all had to talk about last names? Like, is she gonna take Freeze? I'm joking about Freeze.

[B]

Your lady go take your name?

[C]

Yes, that's what it was.

[B]

Is that important to you? You know that he know. They know that Freeze. I'm saying, if they know that Freeze. She give a walk.

[A]

You're doing it.

[C]

You're doing it.

[B]

You're doing it.

[C]

You got to be careful. You're doing it. All right.

[A]

Free D. Yeah. You know Big Free ain't playing. Come on, man.

[B]

Anyway. You want to do what?

[A]

Yo, now that I'm listening to, you married. There might have been a time where my girl was pumping that up out of here.

[B]

Who paid a what, huh?

[A]

Talking about some.

[C]

So I now pronounce you man and wife.

[B]

Oh, you don't even wear hyphens.

[D]

No, I don't want hyphens.

[C]

Why would.

[A]

I'm just curious to know what people hyphenate.

[B]

I have friends, for example, who hyphenate, but the whole family hyphenates.

[D]

I get it.

[B]

So if. If. If he's Smith and she's Jones, it's like they both become the Smith Joneses and the kids become the Smith Jones.

[A]

My man's family name is obsolete.

[D]

My man's family made up a new name.

[A]

They don't get to be. No, your last name is Lillard or whatever her name is. There's no more Lillards.

[C]

Yeah, that's it.

[A]

You're done now. That's it.

[B]

Ish. What do you think?

[A]

The king has chosen his wife. And part of that is the last name.

[B]

I'm a button.

[A]

I'm picking my scene. Coming to America. You are a queen. You're a button now. Yo, that's part of. Yo, I'm gonna holler at your dad.

[C]

Hey, Potts, all of that.

[A]

That last name shit, it's a rat.

[B]

She's not yours.

[A]

It's Button now. That's mine. I'm taking care of this. This is our family. Sorry, Mr. Lillard.

[B]

It's over. It's my family.

[C]

No. Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Dog, when you go pay the girl's father a dowry or when you smack him up.

[A]

For the 60s.

[C]

No, that's how it's supposed to be.

[B]

It's not old words. It's old tradition.

[C]

Do that now. I'm talking about from yesteryear. Or you go ask for a girl's father. I mean, girl's father for their hand in marriage. You are essentially telling her father. You are.

[A]

It's my time to shine.

[C]

Your responsibility. I got it now.

[A]

No more Lillard. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Yes, I guess I hear what you're saying. I'm saying, like, that whole tradition. Tradition of going to the father, taking her from him and keeping her. He getting the dowry, like I'm paying you to. That whole thing is like I'm replacing the. That's patriarchy.

[C]

I understand what you're saying. We cool with. No, it is patriarchy, but it's also symbolic. I'm playing. It's also symbolic.

[A]

I know patriarchy. To tell the dad.

[C]

Is rooted in patriarchy.

[B]

It is by definition, patriarchy. The father is the patriarch of the family. I understand what you say about this.

[C]

Do we have to use it? Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Do you believe that the man is the head of the household?

[B]

No.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I believe we head our household together. We are partners.

[A]

What if you do. What if the man has a dick?

[B]

I would know. I don't. I don't know.

[A]

Clearly. God.

[B]

Clearly I have a dick.

[A]

Listen. To each his own. Everybody, everybody household is managed to run. I love park story. I was trying to give up the last name. I brought it. She was like, you know what?

[B]

If my wife had said that to me, yo, I want your last. I would have been like, nah, keep yours. You approve? Really?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I don't want that.

[C]

No, I don't want that.

[B]

But she didn't say that to you. She said that you wanted to keep hers. Yeah, see, that's the part what I'm saying is leaving out.

[A]

Oh, well, part, not part.

[B]

It wasn't even a discussion is what I'm saying.

[A]

We never discussed. No, no, we know.

[B]

We knew you wanted that.

[C]

It wasn't a discussion. That's what we saying. There was no.

[B]

We know that. It need to be what that's what we're saying. Do y' all talk about it in detail in the episode?

[A]

Well, what's your. What's your stance on not to spoil too much on her hand putting belt to ass on the digital footprint thing?

[B]

Again, we see that a tiny bit different, but in general, I don't. I don't want to track nobody.

[C]

What's digital footprint sharing locations.

[A]

I agree with that.

[C]

I think that is crazy.

[B]

Boom. I agree.

[D]

And me, I don't think that's crazy.

[B]

I don't think it's crazy. I think it's. But for me, it's always about the why of it. If you're doing it for safety. Yeah, that's one thing. If you're doing it, like, I need to know. I need to make sure you. That you are where you say you are. Like, I'm checking.

[C]

No.

[B]

And a lot of people pretend they're doing it for safety, but they really are doing it for insecurity. For insecurity.

[A]

Don't shoot at nobody in here, yo. Just make your point.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

You should always get personal when we have a regular, normal conversation.

[C]

Let them do it.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Come on, man. Are sitting here. Fair enough.

[B]

We already check out the whole thing on in this thing together on podcast. Mark on my hill Patreon, please check it out. Interesting.

[A]

Damn, boy, I wish she would try to hyphenate.

[D]

I'm not with the hyphen.

[B]

I think it's clunky. And it's still clunky. Yeah, yeah. It's not. There's no need for it. But last name.

[A]

You know that. You know that it's gonna take his girl last name.

[B]

No, he not.

[C]

What.

[B]

What do you do if your girl. I know he ain't gonna do that. Scalador.

[A]

Scalador.

[B]

What the is.

[C]

What the.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's his Portuguese last name.

[A]

We don't know no Portuguese at all. Is Skor n playing that?

[B]

Can you imagine if your lady said we're not getting ma. No, I know. What you going to say that. Never mind. If your lady says it's a non negotiable for me. I want to keep my name. You keep yours.

[A]

What do you do? Oh, then you going to come question and I'mma keep this ring money.

[B]

No.

[A]

What do you do?

[C]

Or just.

[A]

I really want to.

[C]

I don't know how to answer it because my girl wouldn't say that.

[A]

We've had the conversation already. But one go. God, G. Honestly speaking.

[C]

All right, never mind.

[B]

I guess my question. How important is it to you? I get that y' all value it.

[C]

It's important to me.

[B]

It's important to you.

[C]

It's important to me.

[B]

Is it important to you as well? Yeah. Okay. Some things people do just out of tradition, but they don't. They don't really have it again. You better have a boy, though.

[C]

Yo, dog, if we Married. We were becoming one house. Like one family, one household. All of that. Then yes. You're taking my last name. That is happening.

[A]

Or you could live in a different.

[B]

Why not?

[C]

Lineage, tradition. All of those things that we build. And we trying to build our name.

[A]

Or.

[C]

You know what I'm saying. No, our.

[B]

Then why don't you take hers?

[C]

Because I got a dick.

[B]

I'm asking. Tell me why. Outside of I got a dick. We get it. Everybody here has a dick.

[C]

Because my girl's father. My girl's father. That was their family. That's their family's name. So it's patriarchy. I'm not disagreeing with you.

[D]

What if she pays the dowry for.

[B]

For you? Yeah.

[C]

She can't.

[D]

Why?

[B]

Why? Cuz you worth too much. You a baddie.

[C]

Passed. Oh, you got.

[D]

You pay moms.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And my mother don't take care of me. My mother's not responsible for me.

[B]

Is your. Is your lady's parents taking care of her right now?

[C]

There was her father too. Till you pass off the hand in marriage. Her father definitely. If some.

[A]

It's patriarchy. Because he's taking care of his daughter.

[C]

Yeah, in. In a manner. In a man. In a traditional sense. No, but listen to this. If I'm not around. Around.

[A]

Let's say this.

[C]

Let's say.

[B]

Wait, wait.

[A]

I'm cool with being dumb too.

[C]

Look, if I'm not around, right? If I'm not around and my girl catches a flat tire or my girl gets into something that she can't handle and she needs a male presence, who does she call? She calls her dad. And so then when I come on aaa. No, if I. If I. If I come on to the scene. And now I have relieved her father of all of those responsibilities.

[B]

Well, y' all following the team.

[A]

I don't know what they.

[B]

My wife better call. They married.

[A]

And I'm not. I'm just.

[B]

My wife better call me. The two married people have a different.

[C]

I wasn't here.

[A]

I hear you.

[B]

Repeat it. You have to repeat.

[D]

You'll hear it on playback.

[A]

You hear it on playback.

[B]

N. I don't want to hear it on playback.

[C]

But yeah, dog, if your girl is. Don't have a voice.

[B]

Listen, hold up. Let me talk to you real quick.

[D]

What if pops ain't around?

[B]

Stop. You can't.

[C]

Hypothetically, I'm saying if your girl didn't have a man. Who's the first male presence your girl calls? She calls her dad. If he's available when you. Now. Your father can be there. My girl's calling me. She's not calling her father.

[B]

Mm.

[C]

What are we talking about? Those responsibilities that he once had fell on me the second that we decided to be committed in a relationship.

[A]

And that's patriarchy.

[C]

That's what it is. It's kind of rooted. It's rooted in patriarchy.

[B]

You literally think I'm her daddy now.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

No, it's not.

[C]

And that's when y' all make it sound bad. I'm not saying her or daddy. I'm saying I'm her partner in life. So those responsibilities should fall on me as the man in her life. It's like you calling your another chick for something that your girl should be doing.

[B]

Right, But I'm with you. Ish. But that's what I'm saying. We're partners. But in this thing you're taking. She's taking your name, not the opposite. So it's not an equal partnership in that way. Would your girl have you called.

[C]

Have you called another girl for advice or for anything? Right.

[D]

Let's keep apples to apples.

[C]

I'm trying call your mom or that.

[B]

Yeah, right. That's the be it.

[C]

How about that? How about I want to be. I'm going to mom before I'm going give apples to apples for a lot of their mom was their emergency contact on a lot of Wham. And then you turn around and get married. Who's your emergency contact? Not even married. Not even married. When you get into a real relationship. Relationship, your emergency contact is now your girl. It's the same.

[B]

So if it's the same, then why. Why is she taking your name and not the opposite? Can I. Can I say something? That's all I'm saying.

[A]

Because I said so.

[B]

Because that's her father. That might be the patriarchy. I think. I think it's unfair that y' all put. Even if it is patriarchy, I think it's unfair that y' all put patriarchy with something that's tradition. Something that's. A lot of traditions are. Because you didn't make that decision. I don't think you should just. I don't think it. Cuz patriarchy just sounds so. It sound bad. I don't think that should be put on that. But Mark, you making an excuse to you.

[A]

You.

[B]

You put you the whole marriage. I mean, from. From. I go to the father and ask for her. He gives me money for her. We have a ceremony. He walks me down her a. Gives me her hand, and now she takes my name. Now she's Mine property. No, no, no, no. Don't do that.

[C]

Let me ask you a question.

[A]

You got to get the out of here. No, no, no.

[C]

Let me ask you.

[A]

Let me ask you.

[C]

He's not wrong. He's not wrong.

[B]

Everybody keep saying he's a.

[C]

But we say it's like, yo, everything in patriarchy is bad. It's not something we all come up here and say, yo, double standards sometimes are just double standards. They all are bad. If that's the case. But you have said on the podcast before that you pay majority of your bills in your household.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Why is that?

[B]

Because I make a lot more money. I make 10 times as much as my wife.

[C]

But when you were leveled out, you would still find that you're masc, bro. Don't act like you're not a masculine.

[B]

Man, because we know you.

[C]

But you feel like it's your duty. Even when you were laid off to according. Going through some financial problems, you still feel like it's your manly thing to step up to the occasion.

[B]

Yeah. And that's. And I think it's unhealthy. And I'm not disagreeing, but I'm living in patriarchy, too. Yeah, I have some unhealthy, patriarchal shit I'm trying to get rid of, but.

[A]

Some of it you got rid of already.

[B]

Yeah, his name, the Lord is working on me.

[C]

You get what I'm saying? Like, that's the whole thing. Like, yo, some of these things are. Are patriarchy in nature, but you pick that. You pick and choose when it's beneficial for you to be that.

[B]

Yeah, I'm just trying to pick and choose in society. I'm not mad about it, and I teach my wife about that because, you know, when it's time to open doors or pay for checks or.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[B]

If an attacker comes around. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I get it. You know what I mean?

[C]

We all got.

[B]

We all got a selective shit.

[C]

Some niggas sound like they big. Go downstairs. This our house. Hey, wake up.

[B]

Wake up, man.

[C]

You heard that? Yo, did you hear that? You got your mace, boo?

[B]

Go downstairs.

[C]

Them sound like be. Stand at the door.

[B]

They sound like they, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

We okay.

[B]

Y' all heard that noise in the basement?

[A]

Yeah. We still got our own last names. And we hear a noise. This every man for himself in here. I know the. I know the good hiding spot in the house.

[B]

The buttons over here.

[C]

Both of these guns is mine. Get your. Get your own gun.

[B]

These are hill guns. These are Hill guns. These are hill guns.

[A]

Y.

[B]

These guns are. I get it, I get it, I get it.

[A]

I'm so uneducated. I never looked at any of that wedding traditional stuff that y' all just named Patriarchy.

[C]

It's all patriarchy. It is all of us.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't like that cuz I don't like the definition of patriarch. Like a form of. So a form of social organization in which the father is the supreme authority in the family, clan or tribe and the descent is reckoned in the male line and the children belonging to the father's clan and tribe.

[D]

That's patriarch patriarchy.

[A]

That's it. You are opposite.

[B]

Then you are a button.

[A]

What's the opposite?

[C]

When you say I'm a button, you are a part of the button clan. You are a button. When you go home to South Carolina and those tombstones say button, that is your clan, your lineage. And that's how it's. That's how it's always been.

[A]

How would it go in matriarchy? Follow the.

[B]

There's some really, really interesting documentary on. On a. On a West African village that is matriarchal. And there are many a lot of African villages matriarchal and matrilineal societies. I mean, we could always.

[A]

Want to take me to an African village.

[B]

No, because I want you to.

[A]

Because is there any other example anywhere.

[B]

Else do you want to. Shit didn't come from us. That's the point. Like if you go back before we were a slave, shit looks different.

[D]

Isn't the Jewish religion sort of matriarchal?

[B]

Is that it follows the mother's blood example. Halacha says that, you know, that Jewishness, the Jewish identity is transferred through the woman and through motherhood. If my dad's Jewish and my mom's not, then I'm not Jewish.

[D]

But if my mom's Jewish and my dad's not.

[B]

Yeah. At least not halacha.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[C]

I didn't know that.

[B]

That's why. And the more you know, going deep any.

[A]

Who's Corey, Undo this. Oh, that's a beautiful picture of your daughter.

[B]

She got a little beautiful picture n. This is fun. Man.

[A]

You crazy.

[B]

I'm going listen back with the.

[A]

All right, here we letting that go. Disney and the NFL have finalized a major media reshuffling that brings the NFL Network under ESPN's control, marking one of the most consequential partnerships in modern sports media. ESPN is buying the league's in house TV assets, including NFL Network and the rights to distribute NFL Red Zone while the NFL takes a minority ownership stake in ESPN itself.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Whoa. That structure tightens the relationship between the sport and its biggest broadcast partner. Aligning incentives on content distribution and long term growth rather than keeping them at arm's length.

[D]

That's great. Crazy.

[C]

That is insane.

[D]

I can't remember a time where I've seen two behemoths actually, like it's not just one gobble up the other one. Right, right.

[A]

The deal tightens ESPN's control over must watch NFL content while giving the league a financial stake in the network. Success reflecting a shift toward deeper and shared partnerships between sports leagues and media companies.

[D]

That's interesting.

[C]

That's big, big, big, big, big business right there.

[B]

Ownership.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And ESPN in Disney 10. Ownership stake in Disney.

[D]

No, probably ESPN, just ESPN.

[C]

Okay, I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah. Don't get crazy.

[C]

No, I'm just still big business.

[A]

Still big business.

[D]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

What I was trying to ask you, Mark, because my brain is delayed. If we're against patriarchy here, then what would be the alternative?

[C]

He was answering.

[B]

I think the answer is equality. Right. I don't want a matriarchal society either. In the same way, like if I want to get rid of white supremacy, I don't want black supremacy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I want a society where we can all be equal and where we can all reimagine our relationships in a way where one doesn't have to dominate the other. That's the point for me. It's about trying to have a world without domination. That's all.

[A]

Got it. So this. So that's the word that's throwing things off here. Supreme. Because why can't we both be authorities?

[B]

That's what I want.

[C]

Well, that's what he's saying with the. But take out each other's last name and our kids have both last names. But what? Go ahead.

[A]

Because that's we are we both authorities. But I have a say and you have a say.

[C]

But who says you say way more.

[B]

You don't.

[C]

What happened when we disagree?

[A]

Agree when they say it's tied. Somebody has to have the elector electoral vote.

[C]

You know what's crazy, yo? When me and my girl really disagree on something, most times I give way same like literally 90, probably 95% of the time. My girl, I'll just be like, all right, cool. Yeah, you got it. You know what I'm saying? Huh?

[B]

Cuz you don't feel like no.

[C]

Me and my girl get into an argument, but sometimes if she has a point and I have a point. We just are at a disagreement or.

[A]

Or, or you just give it to her on some mansion like, all right, man. She'll stop cooking for me.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Like most times I just like.

[D]

I'm not.

[B]

No, you ain't gonna trick me.

[A]

I got no you good for.

[B]

It's right there. I remember how I was got. I got threatened. It's flip, man.

[C]

I ain't playing around with family recording.

[B]

That shit was tough.

[A]

You such a kid. Anyway, what else is important, man?

[B]

Can we do a quick rest in peace before we get to the end of the show?

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

For the great.

[A]

We're at the end, huh?

[B]

I said before we get to the end.

[A]

Couple hours left.

[B]

Oh, I know. That's what I'm saying. I'll do it right here in the middle. To the great demonic Wilson. Name is Grady Demond Wilson. But the great Demond Wilson, also known as Lamont from Sanford and Son.

[C]

Yeah. Rest in peace.

[B]

One of the most special shows of the 70s. One of the most important sitcoms in American history. One of the most original sitcoms. Norman Lear, one of his products. But Norman Lear wasn't really on the set for this one. It wasn't like all in the Family and them. This show was about the genius of Red Fox and it was a genius also of Damon Wilson. And a lot of times people think about Red Fox but don't understand that that show don't work without Damon Wilson's genius. He was a brilliant actor. Grew up performing in Apollo, was a dancer, trained dancer, tap dancer and other forms of dance.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[B]

I mean, you saw that in some of the special episodes where they did talent shows. You know, back in the 70s when they have the talent show Good Times to be the rent party. You realize all them black actors could do everything. They could sing, dance, play sports. I mean, they did every fucking thing. And Demon Wilson was one of those people. You know, he did the five year run on Sanford and Son. Then he had his own show on cbs. Baby, I'm back. He also was for a brief time on the the New Eye Couple. And then he kind of walked away from Hollywood and was a very influential minister in the COGIC Church, Church of God in Christ, which is what he spent much of his career doing. So he was somebody who was filled with like, spirit and hope and love. He was a beautiful spirit to a lot of people and he was a wonderful actor and one of the really unsung legends in our. In our tradition. So salute to. To him and Rest in peace.

[A]

Rest in peace for sure. Very well said. I'm glad that I know what patriarchy mean.

[D]

Now we gotta say rest in peace to Michael. 5,000 watts, too.

[A]

Real quick.

[D]

DJ, producer, founder, switch a house. Absolute legend. Houston legend. I think he was 51.

[B]

He was young.

[A]

Yeah, y.

[D]

52, something like that. I don't know details, but rest in peace and thank you.

[A]

Yeah, worse thank you. Because now when somebody say, hey, that's patriarchy.

[C]

Like, yeah, like, oh, now you know. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[B]

It is part of this.

[A]

That's the script.

[B]

You want to break the script? Yeah.

[A]

What?

[B]

How you think?

[C]

How you want it to go?

[B]

We could break a lot of traditions. Now.

[C]

That'd be my thing with it too.

[A]

But they be saying, like, oh, my.

[C]

God, the world is running off Patreon. No, no, no. Real talk, patriarchy. They love patriarchy. When it's beneficial.

[A]

Yeah. If you really want to.

[C]

There's a real conversation. Make more money than me.

[A]

Listen, man, I'm about to start showing up to the patriarchy debates. Hey, put me in that. Where you. They got the desk in the middle of the circle, and you got a debate bait. 90 people that disagree with you. Well, let me argue for patriarchy. That's horrible. Mark, you shouldn't work with us.

[B]

The streets is right. Turns out right the whole time.

[A]

Did you guys see? I was talking about the Nick game. The Knicks played the Lakers earlier. That was like, in the first 10 seconds of spot. But did y' all see Kaitlyn. Correct. Clark was talking to Reggie Miller and the in the panel, and they asked Reggie Miller who Caitlin Clark's player comp would be in the NBA. Did y' all see any of that?

[D]

No, no, missed it.

[A]

Oh, then y' all missed it.

[C]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you play it, who do you think it is?

[D]

Well, he already knows.

[B]

He watched it.

[C]

I'm saying your. Your personal opinion.

[A]

Who do I think her player comp is in the NBA right this second? Y' all gonna kill me. Con Knipple.

[D]

Steph.

[B]

I say young Steph.

[C]

I was saying stuff.

[A]

Steph or Trey and young Steph.

[C]

Yeah, Steph.

[A]

Trey's also good, too, because she passes better than Colin Knipple.

[B]

Yeah, she's a much better playmaker.

[A]

Much better. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

She's facilitator, and she's the star of the league.

[A]

And that part.

[C]

Okay, now play it.

[A]

I'm going Steph.

[C]

Now play it. Minds you of the young lady to your right.

[D]

I like Peyton Pritchard from Bob.

[C]

Awesome. The way he's able to handle the basketball. He makes big shots when the shot clock's running down.

[D]

A lot.

[A]

Like this young lady right here.

[C]

Is it a freight?

[A]

Now I'm going to show it to y' all so y. So shout to Peyton Pritchard so y' all can see her face.

[C]

Reminds you of the young lady to your right.

[D]

I like Peyton Pritchard from Boston.

[C]

The way he's able to handle the basketball. He makes big shots when the shots running down.

[D]

A lot.

[C]

Like this young lady right here.

[A]

See, that's the other thing. You asked me what, in my opinion, who the player comp was. But sitting right here talking to you, I say, whatever. If she was sitting in front of my face, I would have never said conquer.

[C]

Never.

[A]

I'd have said Michael Jordan or I said stuff. If she's sitting right next to me.

[C]

I believe it's stuff, Steph.

[A]

Fucking stuff.

[C]

Pistol Pete.

[A]

You can't look. You can't look her in her face. Exactly. Say and say.

[C]

And again, no disrespect to Payton Pritchard.

[A]

I love Payton Pritchard. He's a guard on the Celtics. He's super tough. Super tough, but in no world respect for him.

[C]

That was dragging my nephew. And then Nevada camp, I said, ow.

[A]

No, he's different.

[C]

That was a monster.

[B]

And Reggie's being literal. He's talking about the exact stock.

[A]

He made a mistake. That's a broadcast.

[B]

You don't think he's just doing, like, saying, like, exact player style and he's.

[C]

Not talking about plays similar to Steph.

[B]

Oh, I agree.

[C]

If you wanted to find. That's why I said her or Trey. Like, yo, dawg, she plays. She don't play like no Peyton Pritchard.

[A]

Even if he thought that, he shouldn't have said that to her. Yeah, I think that's a broadcasting error.

[B]

You gotta go big. You gotta say Steph. You gotta say.

[C]

Somebody said Peyton Pritchard. Don't start.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah, he's not.

[C]

And I'm not disrespecting because I think Peyton Pritchard is a monster. He's like, super nice, he's super tough, but fam, you can't say the girl that damn near. Her and Angel, Reese and Asia, respectively, are holding this league on they back. And you call her Peyton Pritchard. Can't do it, bro.

[B]

You'll need to unlock your iPhone first.

[C]

Yeah, that's what you got to do.

[B]

Sorry, I was sitting on. I was sitting on the coat before.

[C]

Melissa, get your little K. Unlock you.

[B]

Why you got your phone locked? Huh?

[A]

Why you got your phone?

[B]

You got a password? What did you do?

[C]

No, she said don't lock it.

[A]

She got her last name and the password.

[C]

Does she pay the bill?

[A]

Oh, my God. It's worse than we told y'. All.

[B]

If she didn't get a pass. You have password, too? What you say? Do you have a password also somewhere? Yeah, I don't. I don't know about heart, but yeah, me.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

I'm saying we have each other's passwords. I just didn't memorize it.

[A]

I hear you, Big dog.

[B]

What am I missing?

[A]

We got big dog. We know. Listen, we got a great part of the show lined up.

[B]

What am I missing? Saying we have each other's passwords? I just don't know. She write her no mom by heart?

[A]

Yeah, that's what we're saying. Yeah, I understand.

[B]

Well, you think I should only have hers? You made it seem like you don't have her. No, I said I do. I just have. I don't think so. I don't think she remembers.

[A]

Listen, check out all in this thing together because they got all in the family. Yeah, check out what? They on Patreon together.

[B]

Yes. Not even all of this together.

[A]

You know, man, I have nothing more that's important to share with you guys. We're already at the three hour mark. I love this part. I do think that it could end now.

[B]

It can, but.

[C]

Or however.

[A]

I could introduce you guys to Brittany Renner's new man and let y' all hear, I think some of the things.

[D]

Such a good show.

[A]

Think about it. I could let y' all hear him directly speak to her. They have a podcast coming.

[D]

That's my birthday toy. We're not doing that to her.

[A]

Are y' all sure?

[B]

We don't want to hear it, but.

[A]

God damn you. Y' all sure? Yeah.

[C]

But I can play.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I appreciate even you letting me in.

[D]

With your son, you know, and being.

[C]

Able to be a stepfather, someone to, you know, care for him in ways that people didn't believe they would.

[D]

For you.

[A]

It's Brittany Renner's new man, so I really appreciate that.

[C]

And that's. That takes a lot of trust to even open up like that, you know? So I commend you for that. I have trouble with my daughter and seeing her at the moment, and it hurts me every day, but seeing y' all together, it makes me feel better.

[D]

It sounds like all this together, like we have something.

[A]

No, he still got a little girl, unfortunately.

[B]

I got baby mama issues, you know.

[C]

And you got baby daddy issues.

[D]

But we are handling this together.

[C]

And one thing I would just encourage anybody to do in this thing together, to never give up on yourself. I've seen Keep working the Shannon Sharp, right where he's like, you're never being a relationship with someone that loves you.

[A]

Basically.

[B]

Basically.

[C]

And we're here to debunk that.

[A]

You know, we're here to just say.

[C]

Hey, look, you don't get to write.

[A]

God's story, you know, you don't get to do that.

[B]

You're safe.

[C]

I love you. I love you, too.

[B]

When did she meet this. Are you. They've been together for two weeks. Yo, are you crazy? Crazy? Are you? Is that the best you could say? Man, shut the up and turn that podcast off.

[C]

Talk your playboy Kevin Gates.

[A]

Come.

[C]

What's his name?

[B]

You ain't with that.

[A]

What is his name?

[D]

Talk that.

[C]

Roscoe.

[A]

I just.

[C]

Look, I couldn't find it. I couldn't find it.

[B]

You ain't with none of this.

[A]

Britney Renner is a friend of the show, so I support her. I just thought that y' all might need to hear from her new man, fresh out of her marriage with Kevin.

[B]

Gates yesterday, and she posted him on Instagram and said, like, next. Was it Next chapter? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So they're doing it. They're doing it. Congratulations. Love wins again. God damn it.

[C]

She said she want to come up here again.

[A]

I want to have her. I would love to have her.

[C]

All right.

[A]

That she's in the top 5 of people. I want to come up here again. Are you kidding me?

[C]

She said she's doing something, but after that, she want to come up here.

[A]

Oh, please, please. I'm at the edge of my seat for that one. Let's go. Britney Renner. Good chef show. Good show. All right, my last question about the Grammys, and it's not about the Grammys. When I bought the Clips album, that's when it was. They changed the beat on that joint.

[C]

And then they changed it back, and.

[A]

Then they changed it back. So now I don't have the one that it was, and I like that one. So how can I get it?

[D]

I think I can.

[C]

But how can they do that if.

[A]

I bought my album?

[C]

That's why I keep telling y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

Even when you. Well, if you bought it and if you downloaded the original fully downloaded, because remember, that was a mistake you is having. You're not downloading them all. If you download it, you have the file, and then it's always There. If you don't download it, whenever you go back to click it, whatever they. Whatever changes they make is what you're gonna get.

[A]

Oh, that's horrible.

[C]

I keep telling everybody.

[A]

Do you have the other version?

[C]

Of course I have the other version.

[A]

All right, man, I need that. I need the other version. All right, I'm done. I'm done. Good show. Got anything else y' all need to get off your chest?

[B]

Was classic.

[C]

They gonna say we ran.

[A]

Is a classic.

[B]

This a good episode.

[D]

900.

[C]

They're gonna say we ran from it.

[B]

Which, no, we took Pete Rock and Seal's moves head on.

[C]

Oh, okay. You right.

[B]

And, like, look, man, we not scared of the powerful up top, man. We don't run from nobody.

[A]

Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen.

[B]

You gonna take us out of here, boy.

[A]

I ain't never been.

[B]

Let's see who got a big deal.

[A]

I ain't never been pussy. I ain't never ran, never will. If you're listening out there, I want you to know I see some of the same exact things that you see.

[B]

Seat.

[A]

And I'm really, really disturbed by it all so much. So much. So I'm making a call to action right this second, y'. All. I need me and you guys out there to head down to the ROC Nation office. Seriously. Word. Word. At 5pm this Saturday. 5pm this Saturday.

[B]

Eastern time, y'. All.

[A]

I think that along with you guys help, we'll be able to get to the bottom of what that undercover anonymous hotline tip meant. And when we finish down there at Roc Nation, we're taking this bad boy down to Virginia. Pusha T's name was in that, too, on that phone call. And.

[D]

And the train being Jay Z, Pusha.

[A]

T, and Harvey Weinstein in 96, too. In 96.

[B]

Can you believe that? Piggy? Thank you. The white man said, Holy Harvey yz to push a teeth.

[D]

That's a sick.

[A]

Push.

[D]

Was 18, probably 130 pounds. I can't.

[A]

Yo, we can't see. Nah, nah, for real, yo. Honestly, nah, we. We. We have to get to the bottom of what was going on. That shit don't sit right in my soul and spirit. Some of these people we look up to, yo, this Saturday at 5pm meet me down there, and we gonna really get to the bottom of what they made.

[C]

Somebody got some explaining to do.

[A]

Yeah, we gonna. Don't worry, y'. All. We ain't running from that. We ain't running from that this weekend. Watch.

[D]

Oh, it's gonna look like it's Gonna look like January. Six. Six foot.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Mark got the out of. Why you.

[A]

How you go?

[C]

Where you go? Yo, why you get up?

[B]

Come on, Mark.

[A]

Cuz. Cuz Mark worked for Rock Nation.

[B]

Oh yeah, by Rock Nation.

[C]

One day we going to go down. Everybody y' all work for too. Since y TR tried to hit me, I've been putting the case together. I'm going get you. Not today. You play the music.

[A]

But who's the person you're going to start with?

[D]

Flip. He already said it.

[C]

No, no, no, that's. That's probably you.

[B]

You just wave me off like I'm nothing.

[C]

I'm not starting with you is what I was saying.

[B]

You need to.

[C]

I don't need to.

[A]

O your face.

[B]

Stop a joke.

[A]

Yeah, got you.

[D]

Freeze.

[B]

It's all love, yo. I went to watch it too. You a legend, yo.

[D]

So imagine you're fresh off your debut album. Dead Presidents of Can I Live Tearing up the streets.

[C]

Yeah, it's a single street. Single. Yo you, you blasted.

[A]

Yo, Parks.

[B]

You so stupid. In my lifetime, Harvey Watson.

[D]

You get a little head and you.

[A]

Look down, look down.

[C]

The way there's big Harved.

[D]

Staring up.

[B]

Streets is watching. If I shoot too.

[A]

Holy shit. Stop.

[B]

Just. Just to be clear for the audience's benefit, we're not make. We're not laughing at the accusations. They're saying that they're implausible, that they don't believe the accus. I don't want people to later on be like they're laughing at somebody. I don't want them to twist and misrepresent with Y. I know, but people.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

You're right. It's very important.

[D]

My apologies.

[C]

This why we need you here joke.

[B]

What they're laughing at is the implausibility that at that time in the 90s that Jay Z would even be at the social status to even have access to those people and push a T even more so. And was it 07 or whatever that he would have access to these social services?

[C]

96.

[B]

Yeah, it seems improperly right.

[C]

96 or 06.

[B]

They gave one for him and another and I think it was 07 for Pusha T. So they were saying two different time periods, both of which seem implausible to a lot of people. It was an anonymous tip and those papers are filled with that. I don't know what's true. They're gonna say we caping for. For Jay Z. I'm not caping in the same light.

[D]

Some of the ones against other people who are Revered from a different sector of the world. I don't really necessarily.

[B]

I don't know if no Chomsky was in the train either. That's what I'm saying. Like he was filling in.

[C]

My whole thing was. And I just posted it up there on the screen. The same justice.gov that posted these 3 million pages also wrote this production may include fake or falsely submitted images, documents or videos. As everything that was sent to the FBI by the public was included in this production.

[B]

They're admitting there's a lot of bullshit.

[C]

We didn't. All of this shit is a lot of bullshit in there. We don't know. We just. Hey, if it came to us, we gave it to y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

So y' all can't say we held it.

[B]

So to be clear, we're not holding Hoving Pusha T to a higher standard or a lower standard. We're saying everybody in those documents should be examined. We should look for the truth. But we shouldn't assume that anybody in there is. Is innocent or guilty just because we like him or don't like them. That's all.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Very, very, very well said. Listen, some of y' all kids out there. Mr. Memo. There's this new trend on the Internet where adults are replying to things now. So adults are reading, adults are replying. We're not just taking the kitty version of what's going on, which would be we need your voices because Pusha T, Jay Z and Harvey Weinstein and 96 had too much fun. Call me when you get a little more on that. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now hey. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now.

[B]

Great show today.

[A]

Great show today, man.

[B]

Man.

[A]

Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

I bid you would do farewell. Adio Cereva Diri Hasta la vista Arvois so long goodbye. What simple head novel suffice.

[B]

Hey, wait a minute.

[A]

Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. Hey, remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. Yeah, come on, rock on. Don't got this in him. Rock on. No, stop it. Stop it. Rockon ain't never gonna give you slave in the Odyssey. He never even heard of that. Stop it, man. Stop playing with it.

[C]

I think you want rock to pop out of. You should stop saying his name.

[A]

Honestly. Can't with me at all when it come to just selecting records. So let's just. Let's slow down.

[B]

Let's slow down.

[C]

I think you should leave his name alone.

[A]

That's my man, though. Shout out to him. Shout out to Doughboy and all that.

[B]

I mean, hey.

[A]

Don't try to be tough with me. You got sparkles on your hoodie.

[B]

Dance to this.

[A]

You can dance to this. And on your swept inside, uniquely defined.

[B]

Watch your mouth, boy.

[A]

What's everybody doing this week? Anything. Anything fun. Anything fun. Anything I can make fun of. Anything's interesting.

[B]

Living life, bro. We living life. Enjoying the music. 900 episode. We just want to go out partying. How we going to go turn it up? You. You're happy now? 100 episodes. Could have done it without y'. All.

[C]

Couldn't have done it without you.

[B]

I wanna be inside out.

[A]

Mark. You still doing a Super Bowl? Super bowl kickback or something?

[B]

Nah, I'll be out of the country.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Parks, I saw the super bowl flyer you made. Yeah, man, I saw that flyer you made.

[C]

We saw it.

[D]

My cava skills. No, that's not me.

[C]

No, it's my wife.

[D]

It's my lovely, talented wife.

[A]

Is she ordering the catering?

[B]

The good old days.

[D]

It's gonna be. No, I'm getting some wings from a spot. My man's bringing some Mac and cheese from a spot. I'm gonna cook some. Some other people. Cook some other. That potluck, I guess.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Man, I'mma be in there starving on Z bound or not starving on Z bound it. Till next time, man. We love y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Y' all hold it down.

[B]

And she's always on that phone.

[A]

Baby. I don't bring the hook back. God damn it. What the hell? They was grooving. Damn. All right, enough of y'. All. They got three minutes left on the record. Back then they put the 12 inch version. You'll be jamming for 13 minutes.

[B]

Music.

[D]

Got to keep up with that cocaine, huh?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's it. You've never heard of Joe, buddy?