Episode 901 | "Loser Sibling"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 901 | "Loser Sibling"

Release Date: February 7, 2026
Main Theme:
A wide-ranging, humorous, and sometimes biting discussion on J. Cole’s new double album, the morality and cultural dynamics surrounding "boosting" (buying goods from shoplifters), the viral “loser sibling” moment involving Glorilla’s family, and classic Joe Budden banter on relationships, trust, family obligations, and music industry realities.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. The "Boosting" Debate

(00:00–16:00; 193:00–195:00)

• Boosting Defined: Boosting refers to buying goods from people who steal them from retail stores. The crew debates the ethics, logistics, and age-appropriateness.
• Joe’s Position: Joe finds it suspect and cringeworthy to seek out boosted household items like vacuums past age 40.
• Others Push Back: Several cast members defend it as practical and subversive (“a little bite of reparations”), and claim to support "professional boosters."
• Mona’s Perspective: Mona reveals her direct relationship with an ex-booster, arguing it’s about “fighting capitalism” and supporting a hustler’s economy.
• Quote:
  • Mona: “The fact that I hate Big Corp and a little piece of me hate capitalism, I love to buy stolen merchandise. I enjoy.” (03:31)
• Devil’s Advocacy: Cast discusses where the line is—designer bags are fine, but appliances become suspect beyond efficiency.

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2. J. Cole’s Double Album Deep Dive

(19:00–87:00)

Panel: Joe Budden (A), Mark Lamont Hill (B), Mona (E), Ish (D), Parks (C), and others

• First Impressions:
  • Mark: "J. Cole made this album for J. Cole and Fayetteville. It felt very personal and very local." (19:43)
  • Joe: "This album is everything I love and hate about J. Cole." (33:13)
• Storytelling vs. Production:
  • Panel agrees Cole is at his storytelling peak—each disc is a narrative, with Disc One focused on going home to Fayetteville at age 29.
  • The production, mainly by T-Minus and Cole himself, is praised for storytelling purposes but critiqued for being "boom bap" and not "grandiose" enough for a final album.
• Comparison to Other Double Discs:
  • Joe: “All Eyez On Me and Life After Death are two of the best albums ever made...J. Cole is phenomenal. We do not know that he can do that.” (22:54)
  • Some felt the album was “anti-climatic” and lacked replay value despite strong rapping.
• Vocals/Features:
  • Discussion about Cole’s monotone as fatiguing over two discs; features from Tims and Burna Boy provided needed contrast.
• High Points:
  • “Safety,” “Bunce Road Blues,” “Drum and Bass,” “Only You” are panel favorites.
  • “Poor Thing” and local beef tracks are lauded for regional hip hop authenticity.
• Critiques:
  • Mark: “If you take off the final four or five songs, you’re missing something.” (40:50)
  • Joe: “He’s one of the best rappers in the world. And then that’s it for me. It’s not an event...” (53:06)
• Larger Analysis:
  • Cole is compared to Nas for being more observer than participant, and the concept album approach is praised, but the narrative focus is divisive.
  • Consensus: Solid, personal work, but doesn’t shift Cole’s standing atop Forest Hills Drive/Off Season.
• Quotes:
  • Joe: “This album… highlights some of the things that frustrate me about J. Cole.” (85:05)

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3. Glorilla, "Loser Sibling," & Family Obligations

(107:44–131:00)

• TMZ Viral Clip: Glorilla’s sibling claims she owes the family more financial support, sparking a lively debate on sibling and family expectations.
• Panel’s Take:
  • Mona: “Some people feel like you owe your family, some people don’t. I don’t feel like you owe the motherfuckers nothing.”
  • Joe: “Sorry if I’m triggering people out there. The winner sibling, the mom and dad is hitting like, yo, you held it down for me this month… The loser sibling? You know what it is.” (115:12)
• Humor & Empathy:
  • Jokes fly about “loser siblings”—those who never progress, always call on the successful sibling, and expect help.
  • The discussion also covers the real pain and resentment in dysfunctional family dynamics, with debate on whether success obligates you to financially support family.
• Memorable Line:
  • “At some point, one of us is going to say, ‘I don’t want to live like this no more. I want to glow up.’ The trailer home was always in the loser sibling’s future…” (112:49)

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4. LaRussell and the Meaning of "Independent"

(150:00–168:00)

• LaRussell’s Roc Nation Signing: Dissection of his move from independent hustler (selling albums for $1,000 per copy) to a Roc Nation partnership, despite previously critiquing major labels.
• Is He Still Independent?
  • Parks and others question: Does owning your masters and publishing still count if you partner with a major distributor?
  • Joe: “Nobody can feel like they’ve taken it as far as they can take it if we don’t know a song. That will always be true.” (156:01)
• 40 Albums Drop: Panel shocked to learn LaRussell has 40 albums but isn’t mainstream.
• The Debate:
  • Many argue it’s legitimate to get help for marketing—“if I made 40 albums and you don’t know me, I need help.”
  • Joe and Ish push back—if you champion independence and then switch, fans deserve an honest explanation.

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5. Music & Cultural News

(98:54–106:00 & 185:34–187:02)

• LMA and New R&B: High praise for Ella Mai’s new Mustard-executive-produced project.
• Other Notables: Sasha Keeble’s deluxe project, plus mention of Teddy Riley’s current "Guy" tour without original members, and a somber health PSA from Kid (of Kid n Play) regarding congestive heart failure: “A lot of people are walking around with heart disease because they don’t go to the doctor…” (186:05)

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6. The Trust List: Who Don’t You Trust?

(140:35–146:51)

• Roundtable naming public figures they simply do not trust or believe, including Dame Dash, Blueface, Mr. Beast, Kiki Palmer, Bruno Mars, Soulja Boy, Orlando Brown, LeBron James, and more.
• Joe: “It’s not really a list for me. I don’t believe most people. Especially in entertainment.”

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7. Randoms, Jokes, Closing Segments

(141:52–197:06)

• Super Bowl Predictions: Multiple picks for Seattle; jokes about the parties, food, and family.
• Savannah Guthrie’s Mother-in-law Missing: The panel analyzes a true crime situation, speculates it “reeks of a loser sibling,” and riffs on “would you pay ransom for your loser sibling?”
• Kevin James Scandal: Disappointment after publicly supporting a college president who is then caught in an inappropriate conversation.
• Spirit/Actual Age: “How old are you in spirit?” leads to friendly teasing about being washed vs. youthful.
• Podcast Philosophy: As always, Joe ends with “life is a series of moments… let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• [03:31, Mona]: “I love to buy stolen merchandise. I enjoy.”
• [19:43, Mark]: “J. Cole made this album for J. Cole and Fayetteville.”
• [22:54, Joe]: “All Eyez On Me and Life After Death… J. Cole is phenomenal. We do not know that he can do that.”
• [33:13, Joe]: “This album for me was everything I absolutely love and adore about J. Cole. And also everything I absolutely hate about J. Cole.”
• [53:06, Joe]: “He’s one of the best rappers in the world. And then that’s it for me. It’s not an event.”
• [112:49, Joe]: “I want to spend some time on the loser sibling and their point of view… you was in the same crib, you know what it is…”
• [115:12, Joe]: “The winner sibling, the mom and dad is hitting like, yo, you held it down for me this month…”
• [156:01, Joe]: “Nobody can feel like they’ve taken it as far as they can take it if we don’t know a song. That will always be true.”

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Major Timestamps for Segments

• 00:00–16:00: Boosting/Booster Culture Debate
• 19:00–87:00: J Cole Double Album (breakdown, critiques, highlights, and discussion)
• 107:44–131:00: Glorilla “loser sibling,” family payout obligations
• 150:00–168:00: LaRussell, independence, major labels debate
• 185:34–187:02: Shout-out to Kid (Kid n Play) and health PSA
• 140:35–146:51: Who Do You Not Trust? Roundtable
• Several throughout: Banter, life lessons, comical rants on relationships, home goods, podcasting, and more

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Overall Mood & Tone

• Funny, irreverent, slightly combative—but always familial: The group roasts each other and their topics, but discussions about music and family, especially, carry undertones of real affection and insight.

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For Listeners Contemplating:

• Is boosting ethical and where’s the line?
• How do we judge “final” albums and narrative leaps in hip hop?
• What do we owe our families (financially, emotionally) when we ‘make it’?
• Is ‘independence’ real in the music industry, or just a marketing point?
• Do we have ‘loser siblings’—or are we them?
• And, if you want flowers…should you really be getting them from a booster?

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This Episode in a Nutshell

A classic Joe Budden Podcast: unfiltered, full of hip-hop analysis, human comedy, hard opinions, and a perspective that is both street-savvy and deeply skeptical of systems. Fans of cultural debate, music breakdowns, and chaotic group chemistry will find Episode 901 both hilarious and, occasionally, uncomfortably real.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I absolutely love the topic of boosting, but I already know how it's gonna go. I. I know exactly how it's gonna go, and no one is going to get killed but me.

[B]

Because you're gonna sound bougie and above it, or they gonna call you.

[A]

I mean, these just be calling anything bougie. Like, we do need a clear to clearly establish what is bougie and what's not. But not for today. But it's a moving target.

[C]

Bougie is a moving target.

[B]

It is.

[D]

It is.

[E]

I feel I got so much to say about boosting.

[A]

Yeah, but the people we talking about are never Bougie. Like, Mona ain't Bougie.

[B]

No, no, wait.

[A]

Nobody's mistaken her for Bougie.

[E]

I am Bougie. Wait, Bougetta. Bougie. That's how you really say bougie?

[B]

It's French.

[A]

Hey, none bougie. Galmona. Ice we know is not Bougie.

[D]

Nope.

[A]

At all.

[E]

No ice Bougie too.

[A]

Ish. Be confused. He is whoever he around. So if you around some. Some Bougie, he gonna act bougie. And if you're around niggas that buy vacuums from boosters, then yes. Yeah, bro. And even if you in support of buying shit from boosters, some shit should be off of the booster list, I. E. A vacuum.

[E]

Huh?

[A]

How y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

I agree. I agree.

[D]

That's where the bougie part come in.

[E]

Facts. How's that facts?

[A]

What are you talking about? A vacuum? A vacuum should be off the booster list when you're 40 and between 40 and 50 years old. Yes.

[D]

Why is that?

[B]

Because I get boosting from the barbershop.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm not walking that street with a vacuum cleaner back home. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

You don't got to get boosted to the barbershop.

[A]

Didn't you pull up? You shouldn't be at 40 and 50.

[D]

Getting booster from the bottom.

[B]

I don't get someone boost when I did, that's where I went.

[A]

At 40 and 50. You should have all the utensils you need in your home to clean it and maintain. But when a good deal come across, if you don't Have a vacuum. You should not be calling your booster network shopping around.

[E]

Stop.

[A]

I want you price matches on a vacuum.

[C]

The problem with something like a vacuum cleaner is you should pick the vacuum cleaner you want and the booster might not have the vacuum cleaner.

[E]

Booster. Can I. Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Not only do y' all not know what y' all talking about, I feel like at times like we have certain issues about a doctor. We're gonna let the doctor speak. We have an ex booster in the building. Please, everybody shut up. So please everybody Shut up.

[A]

Number one bitch, you talking about 84 nigga mute ups.

[E]

To assume that the person that's buying a vacuum off the person selling a vacuum doesn't have a vacuum is silly. That's number one. Me, I own a Roomba. That nigga vacuums on his own and mops on his own. I've only been in my place for four or five months anyway. But the vacuum was a gift for my hairstylist that she just move a housewarming gift. Sidebar. If a come parks with the Roomba that mops, cuz mine only sweeps, I'm going to probably buy it. Even though I have the Roomba that speaks that sweeps. The fact that I hate Big Corp and a little piece of me hate capitalism. I love to buy stolen merchandise. I enjoy.

[C]

Okay, so it's an act of defiance.

[E]

Oh my God. It's like a. It's like a fight back to the people. It's like, let me get a little bite of them reparations on top of the fact that thank you. I stole for a living for 10 plus years. So yeah, I'mma support the hustle that I was in. Y' all talking that walk through the barbershop. Nah, my folks call me. What brand you want? What store you want me to go.

[D]

To levels to that?

[E]

That's a shopper.

[D]

Professional shopper.

[E]

We not talking about the smoker that or the drug addicted person that bucks up on something. He bring you in a box.

[D]

You talk to a good booster. Yo, I need this. I need these sizes. I need boom, boom, boom. They want to get it. Every in this room will take some from a booster.

[B]

Sure.

[D]

Absolutely. What are we talking about?

[C]

I'm just.

[A]

Well, the very first point I made was what do you need to get from a booster? And how vacuum shouldn't be on that list. And that's when all of y' all knocked. If you buck and said you could call anywhere and get them the new Hoover, I could give any Hoover number. I need y' all did that your.

[D]

Original quote was yo, at 40 something years old, you shouldn't be with the booster.

[B]

Yeah, that's what he's your original quote.

[D]

Then y' all can have it like that. Them Dysons cost $1,000. If a comes through with the Dyson for $400, I'm gonna buy it. I might not even need. Sometimes a good deal just pop up. Yo, I got this. I'm letting it go for this much.

[A]

Or word y' all let me get over the place. Is it a deal came across your table or are you searching out the deal engulfed in the network of boosters that are actively going in stores to shop for you?

[E]

You are so well spoken.

[D]

I could do.

[E]

That's hard, you know what I mean? This good.

[D]

I could do both.

[A]

It's both.

[D]

I could do both. If I know partly doing what he do with the and I got an order to put a hit me the other day he had a Birkin. They said yo, I get everything.

[B]

I believe you.

[D]

I'm just saying, you know the phone jumping said, yo, I got a Birkin. He had all his ysl. I don't want to put nobody on on blast. A year ago, one of our friends came in here with mad Louis Vuitton everything. And guess who the bought some. Every in this room bought some shit.

[E]

Why you didn't call me with the.

[C]

Personally put salute though?

[F]

You know I ain't with the Mad Louie.

[A]

But that. That what's coming across the table.

[C]

Sure, but you.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Y. Y', all, y'. All are they mixing up my points here, bro?

[B]

If A walked up to me right now and said, yo, I got. I got a Rolex, a Rolex, I might buy it.

[A]

If you got a Rollox you can keep it might be a rocks.

[B]

But I'm not calling somebody. Yo, can you get me.

[A]

Wait, listen. Y' all plan to be connected to the Booster world until death? Yes. I'm not looking down on y'. All.

[B]

I am.

[A]

Y' all ain't got to be.

[D]

I hate the Booster. Yo, I need a map.

[E]

I have a question for Joe.

[A]

Cuz I did so. Joe, y' all are full of dignity.

[E]

Joe, your point was that we shouldn't seek it out, but it's okay if it falls on our lap. Cuz the way you were speaking before, I would think that multiple points I.

[A]

Would judge somebody that is calling me trying to put a vacuum across my lap. I would feel like a total crackhead. Like somebody called me and said, you call Me by a Birkin.

[D]

Got it.

[A]

If somebody called and said, I got a 12 pack of Palmolive, do you need a discount? I would want to question the relationship. But again, I'm different. I got it, I got it. I got it.

[E]

In the relationship that I had with this person is.

[A]

You ain't even got rugs.

[E]

The relationship that I have with this person is that they go out and steal from me.

[F]

So.

[E]

Exactly. They're going to hit me on top of the fact, like I said, I've been in my house for five months.

[A]

Do you have.

[E]

My first order was, yo, I need stuff for the house. Anything new. House shit. These the brands I like. This the kind of stuff I like. So it's coming through. Some of it slow, some of it fast. I ended up with three ninja figures. You need a ninja?

[A]

No, I got three ninja bags.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

Whatever rug you got could be swept. Child facts.

[E]

It can.

[A]

You don't just.

[E]

But I vacuum.

[A]

You said you got a Roomba, which ain't. Which still ain't a vacuum. You said that was a gift. Roomba let Roomba get busy. I know the Roomba recording you play with yourself and selling the data.

[D]

As long as everything else I'm kinda into here.

[A]

I'm a little bit embarrassed that. Hey, no judgment.

[D]

We can't have a problem with the Roomba doing it. But everything else got a camera. That's a great point.

[A]

If you going to be there recording, Touch me back Facts. I need a room. You got a bunch of other recording.

[D]

You in the house before you get to the room. A problem?

[E]

No. Roombas really do record people.

[A]

You think my TV is recording me masturbating? You think my TV is just taping everything? Yes, every last thing. Even if I turned off all of.

[D]

The thingamajiggies, power still going to it. Yeah, power's still on it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Same reason why you can't turn the power off to your phone.

[A]

All right, who's. Who is the genius bar in the booster world?

[E]

He probably masturbate ugly as shit.

[A]

Who do y' all call he can masturbate to?

[E]

Pump it up.

[A]

I masturbate to my girl.

[E]

Okay, that's cute, but I just can imagine your facial expression.

[A]

No, I masturbate to my girl. Okay, but I'm seeing who doesn't. You can't.

[E]

I've seen you ugliest.

[A]

We all masturbate to our girls, right?

[E]

I'm not talking about the girl. I'm talking about you being ugliest shit in the act. Like you probably masturbate ugly as. As what I said.

[D]

Yeah, like aggressive masturbate.

[E]

Face like a real aggressive, angry podcaster.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I'm beautiful.

[E]

You are gorgeous.

[A]

I'm beautiful. But, I mean, I don't want to be. I don't want to be inappropriate, but it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Mark, I don't believe everybody masturbates to the girl.

[B]

Everyone in here does.

[A]

Yeah, well, this room, I'm sure y'.

[E]

All masturbate to your girl. That's stupid. You could just the. Like, what are we talking about?

[B]

You can't touch.

[F]

Like, what are we talking about? You can always just fuck.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I hate playing these games with the guys.

[A]

Sometimes option B is like Alex Hanold climbing the skyscraper tape. Sometimes option two is like, what did we do today, Joe, you so judgy. What did we do today? And what type of performance are you expecting out of me? And you know what?

[C]

It's like number two, more importantly.

[A]

And you know what? You know what type of time I'm on in the morning, so don't you want to let me rest?

[C]

And what do we eat?

[A]

You want to let me rest?

[D]

What do we eat is a goat.

[A]

That's a very important one. What did we eat? Did I nap?

[E]

Like, if it's pot roast, y' all done. If it's salad, you could go bad.

[C]

Rice and beans. You farting? Nah, that's no good.

[E]

That's that couple shit for real.

[A]

You know what's funny? Not to rehash old stuff, but I was watching the clip of you brothers talking about fighting. Deontay Wilder and Jon Jones and all that, and, you know, my brain is weird, so one of the thoughts I had was you could tell which niggas ain't just never fucked like, a tall bitch. I know that. That's weird. Getting there. What is the tallest woman that you've ever slept with. Both of you. You and ish.

[B]

Maybe 6 1, 6 2, 6 4.

[E]

For me.

[B]

Models are usually that height, so 6 4. That's what me Ish do. How about you, Ice?

[D]

That's about six, six four for me.

[A]

Them tall girls, it's a lot to wrestle with.

[B]

It's a lot.

[E]

Y' all had girls taller than y', all, right?

[D]

Yeah, we all the same height when we laying down, though, so we get it.

[B]

You tall, Ish.

[D]

I mustn't try and be funny.

[A]

I'm tall, girl.

[D]

I don't care. But I would.

[A]

I've never.

[C]

Yeah, it's kind of hard. Six Six chicks are not common.

[E]

Cause you six, five.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, that's a big deal. Same age.

[E]

I've dated shorter guys a lot.

[C]

You're pretty tall.

[E]

Yeah, I'm like five, eight. Sturdy Amazon.

[A]

No, don't, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that.

[B]

Black people always go too far.

[A]

Yeah, don't do that.

[E]

What's the definition of Amazon, y'? All?

[B]

Ish. What's the definition?

[A]

I got my.

[D]

My phone locked up.

[A]

Not it. Oh, Mark. Got the fuck out of there.

[E]

What's the. What is an Amazon, Joe, Right now?

[D]

Rainforest somewhere.

[A]

Not you.

[E]

Okay?

[D]

It's a company on.

[B]

That's where I get my vacuum cleaner.

[D]

A member of a legendary race of female warriors believed by ancient Greeks to be.

[B]

Not that one.

[E]

No.

[D]

The nigga Wonder Woman.

[E]

I always thought it was a big girl. Like tall and thick, not fat. Tall and thick though.

[D]

I don't think you got to be thick to be thick.

[E]

I thought Amazon's you had to be.

[C]

I think you got to be a.

[D]

Certain level of a tall, physically strong, athletic or commanding woman.

[E]

I didn't know that. I never knew it had nothing to do with athleticism.

[D]

So.

[C]

Gotta have some guns.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that. So like muscles and stuff like that. Oh, I didn't know that at all.

[A]

Yeah, a couple of WNBA players.

[C]

Gotta have some lats. Quads.

[E]

Okay, well, it's not that bad.

[C]

Triceps.

[E]

Jesus.

[A]

Thought he said he was going. He said he was gonna make the buses for you. What you think about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not fucking with it.

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

I feel like you don't take the bus. Yeah, right. I've been on the bus before and I don't feel like we need to lower the barrier entry, you know what I'm saying? How much more accessible we want to make it. You know what I'm like.

[C]

Oh, that's funny.

[A]

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1st, 2. Welcome all. Or welcome. Yeah. I mean, I need some easy breezy shit to start the party just in case chaos ensues.

[C]

Little white soul.

[A]

Yeah, man. Ease the soul, ease the room a little bit, you know what I mean? Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to all the parents out there. All the first and last time listeners. What up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up? Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Shout out to the old heads. 40, 50 and up, man. Want some Light FM shit get to me.

[E]

The sooner I la.

[A]

Everybody traveling, everybody getting ready for Super Bowl. Everybody at Super Bowl.

[B]

Hey.

[C]

They did their big one with this.

[A]

Yeah. I saw a clip of them performing live. And, like, currently.

[C]

Yeah, I still got it.

[A]

Absolutely murdered. Some of the best shit sound almost better than the record.

[C]

Wow. Bass players in this bag.

[A]

It's good to have a timeless slap in your. In your joint where you could just put the mic to the audience whenever you feel like it, and they just do the whole thing. That's what he was doing up here. Should look like 70,000 white people screaming. It's good to know the hook.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

So happy y' all could be here. We got a great show lined up for you today. You want your car out there? Here you go. I'll keep holding on. I'll keep holding on. Happy people, happy couples out there. Keep holding on. I'll keep.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

All the parents out there, shout out to everybody in college. Everybody internationally, Everybody in London, Germany.

[E]

What up? Hey.

[A]

Always surviving. Everybody getting ready for Valentine's Day and all that. Hey. Everybody in love are looking for love. Y' all got your Valentine's Day plans ready to go? Ready to go. Ready to go.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[C]

Work in progress.

[A]

Got it, Got it.

[B]

Start with new additions.

[A]

Hey, not bad. New edition. Boys to men. Next week. Let me hear you. Stand up and fight. This is it. Make no mistake where you are.

[E]

This is it. You're back. Still a girl now this is it.

[A]

Don't be afraid. The wedding is about no room to mic check. Mic check, mic check, microphone check. One, two, one, two. What's popping out there? What's poppin out out there? Wake it up. Wake it up out there. Let me get these drops out the way. And Mona. Mona, what episode is this? Welcome to episode 901 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Powered by a Few by Prize Picks, Prize Pitch Gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favorite host Joe Button here with a really good show lined up for y' all today. If you are not subscribed to the Patreon, that would be a good time to do so. Shout out to everybody out there. So glad you you could be here with us. To my right. You know the vibes. Don't call her white girl. Big Mona, Philly's finest in the building. Mona, how you doing?

[E]

I'm great. Hello, everybody.

[A]

Good to see you. Next to mona, good brother. Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up Ish is here next to him. The freeziest of them all. Freeze Is here next to him. Our good brother Parks is here. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here. By Ramon. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. What's poppin?

[D]

Was popping.

[A]

What's poppin.

[D]

What's up man?

[C]

Good to see everybody functioning on about five hours of sleep tonight. Had to soak in as much J. Cole pause as possible. Same double album is a lot. It's a lot for a next day review.

[D]

It is.

[A]

Hey, but I feel good. If you're looking for an in depth analysis, in depth, expert analysis on an album that came out not even 12 hours ago, you got it right here.

[D]

A double disc album.

[A]

A double disc.

[C]

I got a lot of thoughts.

[A]

So I'm not double disc, huh? Do you have a lot of thoughts?

[C]

Hell yeah.

[B]

I got a lot of thoughts too.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Been up since 3am we're gonna jump right in.

[A]

Why not?

[C]

I think just my overall impression was that J. Cole made this album for J. Cole and Fayetteville. And if any of us mortals have something that we take out of this that we like, awesome. This felt very personal and very local.

[B]

That is a great way of putting it. That's a great way of putting it.

[C]

The whole first album is a story of when I first started listening to it. I didn't really. I know I read all the notes that he dropped, but I didn't take it into account.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Then about halfway through I went back and like go reread this to see what he was saying. He was talking about how it says diss 29. He went back to Fayetteville, his hometown, at 29. And this is a tale of the experiences.

[B]

And I think it's. That first diss for me is interesting because it's some of Jake, whatever J. Cole is good at, I think you see him at his best here. Like bars wise. I think he's up storytelling. He's up.

[C]

Storytelling was the main strength of this album.

[B]

I mean, storytelling is crazy.

[C]

The whole album is a story. Both diss stories.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But there are moments, particularly in the first diss where I just. To your point about he made it for him.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Some of the production, some of the beat choices, I feel like J. Cole, I loved him rapping on every song. And there are songs where I was like, this song would be better with a more grandiose beat. You know, it felt. Some of it shit I love. Cause it felt like boom bap from 94. Some of it I love like it was perfect for me and my headphones. Yeah, but for who I think the audience wants him to be and for the kind of goal I would want his, quote unquote, final album to be. Sometimes I wish there were some different people. Like, the Alchemist Beat is amazing.

[E]

Right?

[B]

Like, I love that shit.

[C]

He always gotta find the drums on Alchemist Beat.

[B]

I wanted more of that. I want a little bit more of that production wise, but storytelling. There was a few songs that had me in a chokehold, just to name a couple real quick. Safety.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Safety had me. I love Safety. I love Bunce roll blues, and I love drum and bass. Those three, for me were like, on dis. Like the standouts on.

[A]

On.

[B]

On that first disc. And it was. It was great.

[C]

The production, I think, is mostly T minus. He's an executive producer. And J. Cole as well. They handled a bulk of it.

[D]

You could tell.

[C]

Yeah, I didn't love the production, but I didn't hate it either. I thought it was fine. And I think that for album that is mostly based on storytelling, you kind of have to have beats like that.

[E]

That.

[C]

I think that those kind of beats, whether we want to hear exciting or not. Not to say they're not exciting because they're knocking.

[B]

You know, drums are knocking the basement. I just don't want. I don't want to say, like, oh, the production was fine.

[D]

We don't know. We don't. We don't know that it's his last or what. We can't.

[B]

If. If you put out. Let me put it differently. If you put out a double disc in hip hop, this should be a major piece of work. This should be one of your. If you think about Pac, think about, like.

[A]

I knew you was about to start comparing.

[B]

Yeah, no, because that's what I want to do.

[D]

I'm gonna compare too.

[B]

Cause he's capable of that. And the raps are. I mean, again, so far, I really love this album. I'm just saying you don't know that.

[A]

He'S capable of that.

[C]

He's had better production than previous albums. I will say that.

[B]

But Joe even listen to the mixtape last week when he's on epic beats. I think you and I disagree on this. I think he shows up.

[A]

I'm telling you that. And we want to have a nice, cool and clean conversation. I'm telling you that All Eyes on Me and Life After Death are two of the best albums ever made in hip hop. True. And they're double discs.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

J. Cole is phenomenal. We do not know that he can do that. And if we begin to compare, then no, this is not that.

[C]

I think the better comparison for this.

[B]

That's my expectation.

[C]

The better comparison for this album is the Kendrick double disc. This is. This is a concept album to me, which is interesting, super side note. But I was having a musician nerd friend conversation about the best British bands and the whose name came up in conversation. And I'd never really listened to the who like that, despite they have a couple slaps, everyone knows. So I went back and listened to their whole discography, which is only maybe seven or eight albums, but most of them are concept albums. So I'm already kind of in concept album mode when I heard that, and I thought that was a little interesting. And I also thought that him kind of ragging on Kendrick during the battle. Granted, it was a battle, so all things are not to be taken super serious. He ragged on Kendrick for his double disc, which was a concept album, and then made a concept album. I thought that was a little interesting.

[E]

Double disc was really good, man.

[D]

Halfway through the first disc, I went back and read them letters, I mean the notes, and I said, okay, I get it. Cause disc one wasn't for me. Okay, disc one was clearly. And when he said, this is 29 year old me, well, that was a J. Cole I wasn't really listening to like that. That I wasn't too much of a fan of.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

So I was like, all right, cool. Now I understand why this really ain't connecting with me that much rapping is there. It was just production made me want to go say, hey, who did these beats? Because this sounds like back when Cole was doing all his production and majority of it was that again, this just sounded Cole era.

[A]

That's.

[D]

This is die hard, cold fan music. Not.

[A]

Not.

[C]

I can dig that.

[D]

Those of us who kind of warmed up to him later on this album, like, reinforced the critiques that I had about him.

[C]

Okay, I think that's fair.

[D]

Disc one was very boring to me.

[C]

I wasn't blown away until the second half of disc one, personally. Track seven, which was around with Alchemist album.

[D]

I mean, there's a couple joints on him. I'm just saying I'm comparing overall and then I'm listening to this as comparing Cold to Cole. So your previous albums, this. This sound, this feels like regression.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[C]

See, I get that and I understand that. I think that again, this album is for him and for his hometown. So I can't compare this to albums that he was swinging for the fences a little bit. More from a commercial standpoint, like, he wasn't trying to make no hit on this album.

[A]

Cool.

[D]

But this is an album that you've.

[A]

You've.

[D]

This probably had more hype than. And the battle. I don't give a. About the battle. This album had more hype than maybe any other album outside of his debut.

[C]

That may be true.

[D]

So if you chose to make it a very personal album, I mean, you set this bar, you know, you putting up the whiteboard and showing us your plan and your graceful exit, as some may think this is the retirement album or, you know, whatever the case may be. You played into a lot of that with your rollout and made that you. You have a very high bar set. And coming off of your previous works.

[C]

I think all that was intentional.

[A]

Cool.

[D]

It could be intentional. So now when I get the project, I'm underwhelmed.

[C]

I can. I understand that.

[A]

I think with disc one.

[D]

I'm only speaking on disc one right now.

[C]

I think he did this for his town and for himself, and I think that that was intentional. Let me build this shit up, and I'm gonna give you me on it and bring you back to where I'm from, which is not a major city. So that's like. Like super fly to like, I'm gonna bring you into this world.

[B]

It's hyperloop. The storytelling and the lyrics. I thought that for me was compelling. I didn't find this one boring at all. But I get why, like you said, if you're not a die hard day one cold person, I get why you might feel that way. I didn't feel that way. I love. I'd love this one. I just like it. You know how I feel.

[C]

But yeah, I think he also took a lot of risks vocally. A lot of singing, a lot of different tones and like, that, which was interesting.

[B]

Would you. Would you have wanted more features?

[C]

No.

[B]

Like, it's. Cause you know, in terms of, like, you got Tims, you got Burna Boy. Like, would you want other people singing the hooks or doing some other things to make it. That also could have made it more interesting.

[D]

I like what he does. Hooks.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

So I'm not mad at that.

[E]

I have a question, Parks. Like, if an artist does make a. I'm sorry, I didn't know. If an artist does make something and it's more for them or whatever. When it comes to the mass, it's us. Does that matter what you was thinking in regards to, like, how you judge it? Like, if, you know the artist's making it for them or whatever reason, does it really matter?

[C]

For us it matters, but for him it doesn't.

[D]

For me, it don't matter. So I don't care what your intention was. I'm taking your art as you presented this. And I am the consumer. I'm the listener. So when I put the headphones on and listen to it.

[A]

Cool.

[D]

You made this going into it. This is personal to me and I want to do it this way. But if it don't sound good to me, then it's just. All right. Good attempt. You know, I mean, you might love it it because you made it for you.

[E]

Right.

[D]

But me as a consumer, I don't.

[E]

Love it when artists say they made it for them. I just don't really get that. Because you want to make money.

[C]

I don't know if he said that. I just. That's how I feel.

[D]

And everybody don't. So what you said, everybody doesn't go into the album trying to make money or something.

[C]

He's also going to make a lot of money on this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Some people really are just passionate in creating art. Like, they really want this to be a piece of art. And he's. I put him on that side.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

He don't really do much for the money.

[A]

This album from Cole. I have a lot of thoughts. I have. I have. I have a lot of thoughts. Yes. I would have liked more features. To answer Mark to Ice's point, at some point, listening, I did feel like this was when Cole was doing his own beats. At some point I had that thought. I gonna say that was around verse disc two. I thought disc one is the one.

[D]

I like the exact opposite.

[A]

Yeah. Disc one is the. The one for me. Oh, maybe.

[B]

Yeah. It's a rapper's rapper.

[A]

There's a few things going on on this thing. I personally enjoy the Tribish beats. The Dilla conductor, Souls of Mischief.

[C]

I didn't get that at all from these beats.

[B]

I felt like that on what's His Name. I did felt like that. Safety. Safety. Definitely felt like that.

[C]

Wasn't no lo fi or abstract. It was fairly straightforward.

[D]

Beats sound like J. Cole beats.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I got lo fi from a lot of these beats.

[D]

I did see it.

[A]

I got lo fi from quite a few of these beats. Most of them being on disc two. I appreciate this project because y' all had went back and read the notes. I read them as soon as they dropped. And listening to the project, especially disc one, I can appreciate going back to your hometown when you're the Man.

[C]

Yeah, I can relate to it a lot.

[A]

I relate. Yeah, I relate to that. I relate to leaving to go get a job done, going to do that job, and then going back home at 29 and at. At 39. Because you listening to the. This. This on disc one very early. I was like, when he started, when he opened with the country music. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Folk.

[A]

But yeah, whatever. Whatever it was that. That sound was like. It brought me to when I'm. When I'm in South Carolina and on Sunday, everybody in church and. And pickup trucks and playing gospel or whatever the. Is going on. It just. He was painting a picture, and I appreciate him. Him painting the picture. Right. Like on. On. I don't have the names of all of them, but. Poor thing, when he starts serving up his. Man, when he starts serving up homeboy that was back home talking shit. Yo, yo. I heard some nigga back home was talking some local nigga. Whoa. He tore this local nigga apart. But at home, as a listener, I'm like, yo, who the fuck is J. Cole talking. Talking to right now? But I know in Fayetteville, North Carolina, right now.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

In Charlotte and all surrounding towns is lit up there.

[E]

Facebook.

[A]

Yeah. It's all. All the country that are into rap and they watch this nigga from small and believed in him. And that whole circuit is in an uproar upside down right now. I think. I do think that that's fire.

[D]

It is.

[A]

I think that's fire safety. One of my favorite joints. I'm gonna play a little bit from it right now. Gave me a. Gave me a NAS1 love type of vibe.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then that sax.

[A]

Oh, my God. The unit Y sex. Yes. Yes, yes. Yeah. I just felt like the better beat beats by far were on this one by far. Like, for me, this is one of the better beats on the whole album. It is.

[B]

Okay, me too.

[D]

I'm with that.

[B]

But that's what kept me up. I heard this and I was like, oh, this album gonna be crazy.

[A]

Like, he did. He did a lot of jazz throughout the album, and this was a real good usage of it to me.

[F]

Sums of dope. When income's low. That ain't my style. It'll never be. To me, you'll always be my dog, not a celebrity. And plus, you get wide me bands way back when it was rough last.

[A]

Night when it was yo. And what a just hard way to open. Yo. I'm fresh back. Yeah. This is what's going on. This is what niggas are saying.

[F]

I ain't even know that he smoked like that. Drink a few beers. It's been years since we joke like that. Yo, I seen her on the gram. She don't post like that.

[A]

She still bad one of them. See, he's painting a picture like I think there's this happened. It was really a girl that used to be bad that now you back and your man's are telling you yo, you see it? She's still out. Like check it. Like this is so. This is so graphic. And he's so great at this. He is great at this.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

This album for me was everything I absolutely love and adore about J. Cole. And also everything I absolutely hate about J. Cole.

[C]

I can agree with that.

[A]

Or the things that frustrate me about J. Cole. And as we go on I'll get into some of those things.

[F]

Bad as bitches. The bill had lot of these hoes.

[A]

Folks, we gotta get to verse two on here because was verse two is hilarious. I don't think it's supposed to be. Let go, let's go. So now verse two is funny because if I have the songs right and I listened to this more than once. Cause I took a long nap early in the day. Like I had a very busy day. Was in bed by 3 o'. Clock. I woke up at 11 ready to go. I woke up at 11pm, stayed up till about 3:34 in the morning.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

Letting it go. Went to sleep with it. I might maybe paused it at track eight on disc two.

[C]

I intended to only listen to disc one and I was in the studio, had it in the bigs, you know, vibing. But it, you know, it's like watching a movie. Like you think like maybe I can cut this off halfway. Nah, now I kind of see where this goes.

[D]

Gotta see it though.

[E]

Busy day.

[A]

Put you in bed at 3pm at a really really. Well first of all, if I on a Thursday, if I can get Thursday, I'm in bed early. But I had a really busy and hectic and very productive life changing and life altering type of day yesterday at 3pm I got. Yeah, life changing world. World changing good.

[D]

Life changing.

[A]

Amazing day. I met some really terrific people. I had really good vibes. Yeah, I was in bed. I was in bed by four. Job well done. The meeting you waited for all week. You get it out the park. Aaron Judge, you can go home and go to bed stress free. Your mind free of whatever was on your mind before. God is good.

[D]

Congratulations bro.

[A]

Thank you God. Thank you guys. All this is awesome. So verse two, his man is his man is telling him, yo, Quay died.

[C]

I love this in rap, too. When it's somebody that you don't know.

[A]

I love that. I love it.

[D]

I love it.

[C]

Some people hate it.

[A]

I really like it, love it. I absolutely love it. So he's trying to tell him when Quay's funeral in wake is so for the verse to go with God, like, immediately they go to, oh, he was gay and we got away from him. Oh, this was. He was taking a dick in the butt.

[B]

Oh, when he go to Atlanta, he.

[A]

Was taking a dick in the butt. So he went over there to Atlanta. We distanced ourselves, I ain't gonna lie. And now he went right there off the fuck. But he did it so beautiful. Nah, it's a fire verse. This whole song is fire. This whole song is crazy. Hey, wait.

[F]

Hey, boy, what's going on? I feel no way when you don' Respond, dog I know your heart and I know I bond I know a lot is on your plate and more is on your mind but still I hit you time to time when you.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you're right, third bird.

[F]

I heard that Big Ma died and no, I couldn't tell you the cause I know Fentanyl configurin. Hit me back when you get the chance. So many of our peers passed away through the years. My appreciation for airs and my lungs has been enhanced. Your Quay passed last night from medical conditions that were too advanced for doctors to intervene. They couldn't do a thing. They say he dwindled away until his size was that of a figurine. It seemed just like the Mr. Diet was acquired Immune Deficiency syndrome. We been on what team he acknowledged since we was kids, he lived in a closet. But that changed soon as he went to college. Up there wild in the ante Running with fruity types Dick in the booty types type.

[C]

That was.

[A]

That was great. JCO could have wrote this.

[C]

This, this record. There's a couple records on this that are super Lupe coated to me, and this is one of them.

[B]

This sound like, yeah, this feels like from the Cool. This feels like some of them. Some of them hooks from the Cool.

[C]

The I Used to Love her redo is also very, very Lupe coded. Shout out to Lupe.

[A]

I feel like. I feel like. Like this may be in a perfect world. I feel like, I feel like To J. Cole, this could be his final album. Like, I feel like in his brain I did it, I did it. I'm done. I'm independent and actually, yeah, I'm not so in love with Hip hop anymore. I get that from I'm Still In Love with Her. And It's Lonely at the Top, which we'll play at some point. Both of those songs are telling me that J. Cole is like, he over this. It's like me.

[C]

He wants to ride that bike and chill out.

[D]

He's over this, bro.

[A]

Yo, dog.

[D]

And he kind of.

[A]

You realize fame ain't what it's cracked up to be. You not here for the fame. You. You grow up and you notice yourself listening to less and less and less and less hip hop. For some people that were immersed in this shit, it gets to absolutely nothing. Niggas thought Kanye was crazy all them years ago when he said, my house is too clean for me to put hip hop on. We judged him. We threw tomatoes at that nigga. But you hear J. Cole on Lonely at the Top and you be like, well, yeah, I mean, I identify with that. At 45, you never liked rap. I listened to it. It molded me. It shaped me. And that's kind of what he's talking about a lot on here, which is why I fuck with it so much. We were raised by some of these rappers, so we. When we saw music videos and rappers on interviews, that was in our blood, our DNA. We went. We were home as teenagers, writing, dreaming. This was a dream come true to do shit like this. And then you get in it and realize, oh, it's all a farce.

[D]

Smoke and mirror. It's all smoking mirrors.

[A]

We'll get to that later. It's not. It's not what it was cracked up to, to. To be. The rappers I looked up to and the rappers I admired are not that they're caricatures of themselves. The songs are from song makers and songwriters and writing camps. They're not genuine thoughts. He didn't really write this record that was passed down from an A R because Ludacris didn't want it. And it's like, huh, where am I? Where am I? Oh, we can't get paid from certain. Oh, we gotta go on the road. We gotta get money on the road. We gotta fight for our just ever now. Why, why, why?

[D]

I don't need this.

[C]

Especially when you're as successful as he's been. Like, yeah, I'm cool.

[A]

Yeah, man. Yeah, I totally feel, feel him on this. My problem with J. Cole is he's anti climatic.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Although he gets into some later in the record. He gets pretty, pretty animated on this too.

[A]

I want to play Poor thing. Because why did he do his man like that? Poor thing is another one of the better songs, period. To me, on this entire project.

[C]

The best of the best to me is the last four. Five.

[A]

On which disc?

[C]

Two.

[A]

Oh, see for me, on both discs, if you cut off the final four or five songs, you missing something. I'm great.

[C]

Yeah, you missing something.

[B]

Oh, wait, you really.

[D]

You cutting them. So you gonna wait.

[A]

You drumming bass.

[C]

Oh, drumming bass is incredible.

[B]

Put on drumming bass for me.

[A]

Well, let me get the poor thing. Let me get the poor thing. Cause he's serving some local nigga up. Also why I'm not mad at the Fayetteville shit. Great, great announcement. Is like we've been. We've seen regional hip hop just killing. Yeah, regional hip hop is looks to be on an upward swing. Even when I was wrong about taking me through there. Take me through there. But yeah, it's back. So if regional shit is back, I'm one of the best rappers in the world. Nobody's gonna pay no mind to North Carolina. Why would I not? Right? Why would I not?

[D]

And he been doing that his whole career.

[E]

Yeah, he a hometown guy.

[D]

Yeah, this.

[F]

Nigga back home and talking slick and I done hurt him.

[A]

You get your no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This boosie right?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

I love the crucial conflict. Booy 3:6 he. Oh, I love it, I love it.

[F]

But I remember him from high school, man be down inside. No, he a I want to hurt him. I know that I carry hitches like a burden. When eagles is FL everywhere that's when they close the curtain. That's when they close the curtain.

[A]

Oh, hey, local, you thought he was done right there. Cuz he started talking about his pride and ego. Not at all. He right back on your ass. Oh.

[E]

Ooh.

[A]

And you know he about to you up now. He started a him when jcole started him. Uhoh, wait a minute.

[F]

Many nights a didn't eat punk.

[E]

Oh damn.

[F]

It was on the street punk. All of a sudden I'm buzzing on now it's be punk going it pop off give about your mystique punk.

[A]

Come on. What? What are you talking about?

[D]

What are you talking about?

[A]

On disc two, he is bugging on disc one as well.

[F]

Super bugging started growing up with that's packing heat pump you more like me than them.

[A]

You still a deep punk.

[F]

You can't hide it with tattoos on your physique punk.

[A]

Imagine being one of the the top rappers in the world and hearing that that local dude said and yo, there's no other album or album rollout or album concept that I would be able to just shoot at the local that everybody in in my hood heard he is flaming this local. Hey, local man, DM me or something, man. We gotta hear this. Yeah, I gotta. What happened? How you got your man going crazy?

[F]

You added that how you speak punk?

[A]

And you grew up with both your.

[F]

Parents to kids punk. How the all of a sudden you turning g punk? You was thinking of peer pressure punk. You ain't claiming no real section. Your street wasn't lit man your look like mine with hella tree trunk move the for driving peaceful message I'm violent then a key just switch in the back of my mind I gotta be something that's when I started rhyming and making beat something way before you was lying about touching key something heard you say I ain't that's your belief huh, bitch? Well look I'm back in the veil so we can see Punk bitch gonna shoot me the fair one when we meet punk bitch and don't be bringing no hill.

[A]

Yo, J. Cole just said at the end of the song to the local nigga to let's drop your low, let's meet up no guns.

[D]

You said I ain't real.

[A]

But I'm back with a fair one, right?

[D]

So now let's see if I'm. Let's see if I'm real.

[A]

Shit. This nigga gonna ride the city bike to the beef. Yo, I fuck with this faithful city bike.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

Cause the world don't know he on it that. But back home it's that.

[D]

It's some. Sometimes it be that one person like yo, you.

[E]

You.

[D]

All right.

[A]

I absolutely love that. Let me see. Legacy super fire girl joint. Super fly super fire girl joint. I'm not going to beat you down. Bounce Row Blues Tims, come on. Stop it, y'.

[B]

All. Yeah, you can't miss.

[A]

Yeah, stop. One. One. Which one? Road.

[B]

That's the one you talking about. That's that.

[A]

Oh, Buns. I'm it up. Bunch road blues to me is that's.

[C]

One of the better records.

[A]

One of the better records on the entire album. Shots.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And back to Mark's feature point. That's what made me realize J. Cole, for me is. Is too monotone for double disc. Yes, yes.

[D]

And then he's too monotone for double disc. And J. Cole beats.

[A]

And I'm saying that as an mc, that also was monotone. More monotone than him. He does more with his singing and with his vocals than even I did. Yeah, but he don't have the voice for double disc. So when Tim's came on. It was such a breath of fresh air for me, for sure. It was such a. When Burner Boy came on disc, too, on that. What am I yearning on on that flip. That's the other thing about this, too. The Mob deep flip, I did not love. That's one of my.

[C]

The realest. The realest flip.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

There's two Mob deep flips.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

There's drop of J. Little, which was on this end of.

[A]

No. You know the one I'm talking about? One of my favorite beats of all time.

[C]

They did too much with it.

[A]

That's one of my favorite beats of all time. So I did not love that. Didn't love what he did with the dmx.

[D]

How's it going?

[A]

Like, some of the flip I didn't really love. And for me, those were on disc two. But back to disc one, Bunce Road Blues. I feel like we gotta play some. We gotta play a little bit of that because. Come on, man. Come on. Fire. This is fire, North Carolina. What up, what up? What up, South Carolina? What up out there? Legacy is really fire. I'm not gonna play it, but legacy is fire. Fire.

[F]

Your weapon at 12 and hell, why in the do we fail?

[A]

And he did this so right. One verse, one verse. And move, move out the way.

[F]

I ain't no preacher for real I just like to cut on the mic and start letting you spill And I've been leaving a trail? You play all my albums and find you a letter reveal this is suicide note Come here. Look what I wrote I'm about to kill myself Fuck J. Cole. I don't even want this role Wanna rebuild myself Tuck my pole under the driver's seat Nigga, don't try to reach I bust a hole right in the frontal load that's in the bottom of.

[A]

Me 2 months ago I was a.

[F]

Bus low he said, what's up, Cole? Nigga, I love you both. He said he proud of me that touched my soul I.

[A]

Absolutely fire. We know who did this beat.

[C]

Alchemist.

[B]

Alchemist.

[A]

Alchemist. Alchemist. I love you so much.

[B]

They feel different to me.

[A]

Verse and a half.

[F]

Broken zone on.

[A]

I love that most of the beats are doing something to help with the. For me, that helps with the monotonous tone sometimes. How it change, man, They got the block. Y' all lying, man. Come on. Stop it. Yo, stop it. Yo, fix your faces around. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it.

[B]

I'm not free, yo.

[A]

What? What? New accounts. What up, what up, what up? What Up. Wake it up over there.

[D]

What's up?

[B]

What's up?

[D]

What's up?

[A]

Y' all good?

[D]

I'm great.

[A]

Y' all lying on this. If y' all not with this. This song.

[D]

This song. No, I like the beat. That's the only thing I like about this record. This particular song.

[C]

Really?

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Even with the little Usher John, you said regular.

[D]

Like, I didn't get to disc two. I heard mostly all of this one. And if you're saying disc one is.

[C]

The best disc n this, you like this.

[B]

You don't like this.

[D]

You don't like this.

[B]

Well, I don't know, cuz. You like boom too.

[A]

I just roll on my weed and.

[D]

Get the puffing and lay back in my seat.

[E]

Or.

[A]

Tim's future alchemist.

[C]

And I like this.

[A]

And Cole, you. Nah, this is a vibe, yo. Come on, Tim.

[B]

Give it to me. Give it to me.

[A]

Give it to me. Rules.

[E]

We choose to neglect the rules.

[A]

Oh, you got to be joking, man.

[E]

Don't do no wrong, though, to me.

[A]

Bunch Row Blues immediately into who the Is you Again? One of the better songs.

[D]

I like this one.

[A]

On the entire project we're gonna get. I don't. I didn't hear what y' all heard.

[D]

Well, listen.

[A]

Again. Again, I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that. Who the. Maybe. Maybe I was so blown away with who the Is you and what I've heard thus far into the album. Remember, who the Is you is track eight on disc one, right? I'm satisfied. Really, I'm pleased. On disc one, you had eight songs. I've been grooving. You've killed this conceptually. You've hit Fayetteville, you've hit stories. Like, I'm thinking that he about to. If this is the start, we off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on, man. Yo, and let me just tell you, I'm retired. And the fans never did say I picked a great beat. But the second half of who the Is you? That beat is absolutely insane to me.

[C]

Shut the vinyls.

[A]

That beat. That's vinyl. That beat is absolutely insane to me. Guaranteed to make any studio session that a real rapper is in. Turn the up. That beat is like. Oh, it's like total. No one else mixed with, like, Can't Stop, Won't Stop, Young Guns mixed with that second beat.

[B]

Sick.

[A]

Also, the insta. The music is doing a lot of helping with him for me.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

Like, this is crazy. This whole. This whole. In terms of arrangement, lyrically, his flow, he's killing again. This is fire.

[F]

Who the Is you. Who the is you?

[A]

And this is the joint from the trailer. So we finally get to hear the whole thing now. Come on, man. That's crazy.

[F]

Who maneuvered through the drama with the suit of armor moving karma than the Buddha ducking funeral parlors? First the hooting, hollering, and then the shooting starter.

[A]

This was the song where I realized one of the things that. That frustrates me about J. Cole, which is he's one of the best rappers in the world. And then that's it for me.

[C]

What do you mean?

[B]

I get that.

[D]

Me, too.

[A]

And then that's it.

[E]

What do you mean?

[A]

It's not an event. It's not. He sounds like he for me. Only for me. Dreamville people. Please don't kill me. He for me.

[E]

Me.

[A]

Like, I was reminded a lot of Nas on this album.

[D]

Somehow you could say, like, you could tell he's been listening.

[A]

Sounds like the best rapper in the world that has just been observing his entire life.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just looking like. Like HOV said, you ain't living. You witnessed it from your folks past scribbled in your notepad and created your life. I don't think that's whack. Hov did that as a disc, but I don't think that's whack to be able to observe something that's floating and J. Cole. As I'm listening to his story about North Carolina, when I leave, I. I leave with, what'd you do? Like, you were the most talented guy that rapped. The best, that knew it probably wouldn't get popping from North Carolina. So you bounced away with some motion like it was rap. You did it. You lived your absolute dream. But in terms of the beat starting and me thinking that I'm about to hear like, a new this album. Almost too many stories for my liking.

[C]

I get that.

[A]

Because he don't. He can't for me. Like, on disc two, he told a story, and I get what he was doing. Doing about him pulling up to get gas.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And somebody asking for a picture.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

He done storied me so much before that point.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't feel like this was necessary. There was no twist. There was no plot. This was y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

I went to the gas station to get gas. I tried to hide because people recognize me and I hate being famous. I identify with that. And somebody wanted a picture. I'm like, dog, if we own a double disc. And that's the moral of the story. Scrap. Scrap the song.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Agree. Scrap the song.

[D]

I'm not Mad at the song. The whole purpose is everything that happened at, you know, 39. When I go back to the city. Yeah. You walking me through the everyday.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Somebody asked me for a picture, and I can frame this. I'm putting you in my place as the person who was here at 29.

[A]

Leave.

[D]

Y' all know what my career did. Now I'm back 10 years later. I'm putting you in my shoes of everything that I'm witnessing and going through.

[A]

But your shoes.

[D]

I'm not mad at that.

[A]

But your shoes was boring at 39.

[C]

I love rap.

[D]

Your shoes was boring at 29.

[A]

No, they were not. No, they were not. No, they were not.

[D]

That's what we differ.

[A]

No, they were not.

[D]

That's where we differ.

[A]

No, they were not. He left, got lit, went back home at 29, I'm the. Y' all never seen nothing like this. That's not not lit. That's not not lit. I went through that. I went through that off Clue tapes. I'm talking Jersey City was in an absolute uproar of Clue tapes. He's the man out there going back and.

[D]

Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about the way it sounds.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, he's lit. Is that.

[D]

I get what you're saying.

[A]

By 39, he has fallen out of love with hip hop. If I'm listening to his words, and that's what it just comes off as to me. That's all. That's all. I want to get to the second half of this shit. Just because I think it's crazy.

[F]

Walking one day when I heard a blast loud enough to shatter the earth. And the third, like, yeah, all that ass and my legs got to turn and close. Which likely means soon you'll be singing familiar tunes in interrogation rooms, getting questioned by Zane Low. Who the is you? Who the is you? Who the who the who the. Yeah, you know who Put the city on. Came back through Rolay. Peter Storm, really? On Get Rich, A die trying. I had 50 on ringing out my phone like this. You really home?

[E]

I stay out the way since I.

[F]

Done seen a million 5% tension.

[E]

Plus I got this hoodie on. I had the humble up.

[F]

Stop moving with that jury on.

[E]

You hear that?

[A]

Yeah, this is that. That's absolutely crazy to me. That's absolutely crazy to me. Y' all wanted to hit drum and bass, right? Let me see. Let me see what y' all see if I can.

[F]

I got too much on my plate and I know you can't relate. They show love it it be fake Time out should be covering up that.

[A]

For me. This should have ended this one. Now I like the Even though I like the top.

[C]

Lolly. The top is. It's a little bit of an aside from the rest of the project like the rest of the project is. He's 29 in Fayetteville. Lonely at the top is like current day kind of talk about the same but it's like a footnote.

[B]

While the.

[F]

World spins like whirlwinds out of control how does the soul find a thorough cleanse when all of this cold water that flows has for sure been contaminated with sin Planted in the latest of trends Stranded in this land of the antiquated ways of the men standing in the state of revenge Seeking a way to defend reputations because the names are actually greater than them Life is a trip you can't predict the random way that it ends Bullets travel straight through the skin like gamma rays in the.

[A]

Wind it's hard, it's hard Annotated my.

[F]

Gems the shit I write so far I got my hand afraid of my pen get the up out my face with what you talking about I got too much on my plate and I know you can't relate they show love it it be fake Time out should be covering up that hate I know.

[A]

How to spot a snake Tart tart Hard it's hard. The let out was unique. I don't hate it, especially toward the second half.

[C]

I like that I saw a lot of people not like it. I get it though. Again, it's. It's the narrative. It's all in the narrative.

[A]

I get it. It's part of the story. Again, it helps for me to break up some of the monotony of his vocal vocal tone. But if it weren't there, I wouldn't care. Right? I feel the same way about Bombs in the Ville.

[C]

I definitely feel that way about that one.

[A]

And also I understand why it's there. But if Lonely at the Top wasn't there. But that tells a lot of the story, so it needs to be there.

[C]

It's kind of like the narrator or something.

[A]

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. But I just thought he was doing such a great job with the story that a lot of disc two wasn't needed.

[C]

Whole new story.

[A]

Yeah. Whole different story without substance.

[C]

For me, I will agree that it's less narrative based. He tried to slip a couple records that are just stand more standalone. I feel like there's not much on disc one that's standalone. Like I don't know how you. I see why he didn't really pick a single because there's not really a single.

[D]

Yeah, I couldn't find a single.

[A]

I think that the Tim's record is a single. I think that the Burna Boy record is a single. I think that Legacy is a single. And there was one more record on here that I thought was single. I don't think that he goes into album rollouts in that state of mind, especially as an independent anymore. Like, single, single, single, single, single. But do I think that there are records on here that are gonna continue to pick up and support the project? Yeah. Yeah. It don't sound like. Oh, just all for the backpackers, all for the J. Cole heads, and all for the lyrical miracle. Niggas that don't.

[C]

Oh, I agree. I think that he tried to still appeal.

[A]

I love the intro on disc two. I do. I love it. The fall off is inevitable. I already had.

[D]

Yeah, we had that, so.

[A]

Right, cool. The Villas did y' all care about.

[D]

That's the one.

[A]

I'm trying to hear what y' all heard on disc two.

[D]

The Villas is the one with the second mob flip. The one you said you didn't like.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[C]

I'm good on that one.

[A]

I'm cool. I'm cool. And then Old Dog is disc, too.

[D]

I love that.

[A]

Let me find that one. Where? Here we go.

[D]

Ring, ring.

[F]

Who the is that?

[B]

It's a.

[F]

That's where you find me in. Right off of 95 we had a little town meeting down in the villa if you're real then you can chime in now real don't mean that you.

[E]

Got paper or you ride bins or.

[F]

Selling white to all your clients that don't mind skiing Now I'm being real to me you stand on what the you do we on the map we ain't Atlanta but we snuck on through I had a plan put on Atlanta got a custom tool it's so carry so it's random cutting tools it's nothing new they carry hammers in the public schools Talking damn within this tool it's nothing new we behave.

[A]

It'S just cool.

[C]

To me yeah, it's not my favorite.

[A]

It's just. It's just cool. It's just cool to me that was.

[D]

The first song I wrote. Ran back afterwards like, oh, really? Let me run this back again.

[B]

That was the one.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I get it. For your music, taste the beat. I get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Referring to your wife is a life sentence is hilarious.

[A]

No, that is funny.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

And yet I understand.

[F]

During life for their day one. Who held it down when the credit wasn't a one. You thinking, God, you was looking for a grave one.

[A]

Yeah, see, that was. That was cool. Another record. To me, that just helps with breaking up monotony because you're on disc two at track five. But to me, it didn't need to be all this. If you condense these projects to 16, 17 record, I think you're having an entirely different conversation. And even that's a lot of music. 16 and 17 records on a project. I don't think he should. He shouldn't have had no problem taking off at least seven of these records. Zero problem doing that. That's. That's my opinion. Especially if we weren't gonna get some more rap features. Rap features. Rap features. Help on it on a double disc.

[C]

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I just don't think that was his intention.

[A]

Not at all. Cuz he was telling the story. He don't need y' all to tell his story. Right. So I get it. I feel like this should be his last project ever. I feel like it won't be his last project ever.

[B]

It never.

[A]

And listening to this. Sometimes it is listening to this project. Don't tell me you going off to.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think so. I think we'll just get a different J. Cole. I think we'll just get rapper J. Cole. Cole. As opposed to like life story J. Cole from now on.

[D]

Nah, I think we gonna get. What was it, 39. I think we get 45. J. Cole telling us what now? Because now this is a whole new life. I'm independent now.

[C]

True.

[D]

I own all my shit now. Now I'm moving a whole different way now. And now we're gonna get that version of your life. And in your heart, you're still a poet. You gonna write.

[C]

Oh, true.

[A]

So you're gonna get. That don't mean release.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That don't mean release. And if you listening to him at 39, nothing sounds like he wants to continue to be seen or heard. He sound like he's totally ready to do the Frank Ocean.

[D]

I see him doing the Andre 3000 thing. Going away and then popping out with. I mean, maybe not a full project.

[A]

Well, even that. A couple joints that's not really heard and seen. If we say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

We say the same thing.

[A]

Yeah. He don't sound like he would.

[D]

He's not gonna be active.

[A]

Yeah, he'd sound finished with niggas. I ain't gonna lie.

[D]

And I did it on all again. What else? I said this before. What else does jcole have to prove?

[A]

I didn't feel like life sentence was necessary because I had legacy and the and the burner boy record. Let me get the only you hold up, cuz. Another one of my favorite records on this project. One of my favorite records on this entire project. Only you burna boy.

[F]

Sunny days, rainy nights I know she'll.

[A]

Be there for me hey.

[F]

Never too far.

[A]

That beat is hard that beat is hard. Let me get the burner Boy, man Let me get the burner boy. Neutral button.

[D]

No money how can I be sure you love me? It's not like you're betting your best.

[A]

Dance on me Best dance on me Best on me Breath of fresh air when this came on I ain't going to lie to you Come on, man y' all too stiff in the shoulders when cold heated my maybe time I accept my. My baby love me more what am I looking for? Come on, man that's hard, man.

[C]

We have now reached the entree portion of the album. To me this is this is the steak. This is the lamb chops. This is this. This is where the album is.

[D]

That's a single.

[A]

These are the songs where right now that's the same man up above I.

[C]

Love her again what if quick stop I know you don't like that but I do and the the whole world.

[A]

Is a oh then you really going to be mad at what I got to say let's go to man up above man up above let's do it. Never could have made.

[C]

What I hate this flip but the verses I love.

[A]

I don't need a.

[C]

Jlo flip but he's been good for a Cordy vocal flip got a lot.

[F]

I pray the Lord watch I pray the Lord watch another year goes by another slayed at the west Indian day parade when perpetrator spray you got the nerve to ask why I stay in the house more you pay for going in the I'm going out for when stretching like a new school power n re range but when these boys is shooting start breathing strange heartbeat is faint now it's Alfeta Zane mean I'm not German but the wheels currently turning on my mama's automobiles certainly are well y' all prefer to be hard memories of my dog's wake it's hurting me y' all the windows two were so closed sauce courage be drawn innocent as a child but where were we all before the hoes and the smoke that arose from the black amount of Cigarettes triggers lift the biggest fellows seven on his torso and turned them in a mellow but no mid range ISO back to the bass the streets raised them a bastard wrapped in a casket Best beware Don't you dare go laugh at the tragic passing of somebody's son by somebody's gun Give a if you ops when distant and dead the karma tends to come at you hot I promise you pray for forgiveness the Lord's wrath can astonish you I'd rather admonish you on this record than impressed with perceptions of a designer shoe Gucci, Louie Chanel, Balenciaga how we gonna excel soon as niggas make it out they turn in Hollywood as hell I knew buddy caught that body but hell I probably shouldn't tell a real side.

[A]

That's fire Amazing Hard that record is hard.

[C]

That's fire. Re ear at the lamb chops it's.

[A]

What'S up man.

[D]

It's cool to me I'm dead ass like I nobody can. He's one of the best rappers in the world. Yeah, but for me this has no replay value. Like I'm not gonna be listening to this in my car. That's just the honest truth. Like it's anti climatic. Like I think that he kills shit on so many features because it's somebody else's song. I think the production on somebody else's song. I think hook on somebody else's song. When he gets on it, it has all of those other components now you just adding his genius on it. So it's just amazing. His feature run is amazing. But when I listen to him it's just, just is. It's blah for me it's just blah. Can he rap? Of course. Nobody in the world can undoubtedly say this nigga can't. He probably the best one of the top 20 rappers ever. But the, the songs and it's just real, real, real monotone. And it's just like if you hear one, you hear them all almost.

[C]

Oh, I disagree with that. The content of these songs are all very, very different.

[D]

Yeah, no, I'm not.

[C]

I see what you say.

[D]

Sonically, all of these songs kind of is just a one monotone flow throughout the whole entire album.

[A]

For me, nothing after man above did I need.

[D]

Oh, you're plugging.

[A]

Absolutely. You are zero.

[B]

I love after me.

[C]

I don't know if you listen to him enough.

[B]

Listen I love her again one more time.

[A]

Yeah, I did.

[D]

And you know what? You did?

[A]

Multiple times.

[B]

I believe you. I'm saying one more time just for.

[D]

The people He a Student of rapper.

[A]

No, no, no, Listen. I'm going to hear this differently than y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

He's a student.

[A]

I want to start there. I'm not going to hear this the way that y' all are hearing it. One, two. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm not saying it's bad. But do I think that his version of I Used to Love her and how he sees it. I love. I love how he picked it up from right where Common left off. I love. I love what he did. But do I feel like that was needed?

[C]

I didn't like the.

[A]

No, I don't.

[C]

The light.

[A]

And I'm about to say I don't love that beat up either.

[C]

Oh, I like the beat.

[B]

I thought it was interesting to. To. To pick up where Common left off, but to sample a different Common song while doing I Used to love her.

[A]

Right after that is what if I'm good? Stop it. My. You do not need to hear jcole go through Big and pox murder and say, what if these things. Tell me y' all needed. Tell me y' all need it.

[C]

I like that concept.

[B]

I like. That wasn't. That wasn't.

[D]

I liked it conceptually. I just don't think that he delivered with the song. I. I like the concept. I like how he tried to incorporate Big's rap style, Pac's rap style into the song. It just didn't hit a home run for me. Again, the concept is fire. It didn't hit a home run for me.

[C]

I think it was. It was unneeded in the story of this album. I will say that.

[D]

Leave that vagina, Lucas, bro, let him do his thing.

[A]

This is like this. Nothing about this is nothing but the concept, really. And that's, like, almost lazy. But it makes sense.

[F]

With this concept, I was much too young to truly know what constitutes the difference between a girl next door and a prostitute. I heard some older brothers say they knew it from before. She lost the common sense when brought her out on tour. She's all about the money now. They labeled her hard. I heard what they were saying, but to me, she seemed pure.

[A]

For me, at 39, he don't have much to say. He don't. And for me, that's evidenced by what the fuck he talking about, which is a common flip. Yo, Biggie and Pac, if they was still around. Nigga, you're 39. What are you doing? You was just litting 29. You was tearing niggas up. You back in the hood. They loving you. The OB is Back they hitting your line. Where you at? What you doing? You hype about it at 39, he's already out of love with everything. Yeah, don't know.

[D]

That should impress me no more.

[A]

And it sounds like that sounds.

[D]

None of this no more, but it sounds like 24 songs.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It shouldn't feel like that to me.

[D]

And. And to your point, when you first started, you know, I was trying to be quiet when now you woke me up a little bit. My. Everybody's been waiting on this album for two years.

[A]

Years.

[D]

So if you set the bar up there with your track lesson, all that other. I don't really want to hear about your life story. I don't put that on a mixtape for your local to know the locally that you talking about the world don't necessarily want to know about little Rah Rah that's coming for you locally, not me.

[A]

And then for him to get to the end of this song and say, oh, she was like that from Jump. Then you one of the best mcs in the world. Didn't need this. This to convey it for me. That. That's for me.

[E]

And I disagree with earlier. Well, I don't even say disagree because I don't know exactly. That's what you said. Somebody said Mitches Ice, you mentioned something about. It has nothing to do with the battle. But I feel like when he stepped back from that battle, I think people did expect to like, get something when this came out. You know what I mean?

[D]

Anticipation.

[E]

Right? Because if you, you know, if you want to say, look, that's not good for. Because I respected that. To know that that's not good for you mentally. But I'm totally waiting for you to do something like once you put yourself out.

[C]

See, I think that he did. This is a much more difficult album to make to me than trying to just do, like, make some slaps. Like, this is a. This is an undertaking to tell a story for an hour and 41 minutes. I understand why you might not like it, but I understand as an artist and someone who's in these studios and someone who tries to push some boundaries, like, that is much more difficult than just like getting some dope beats and flaming it and getting future on the record.

[D]

Like, all right, I'm not mad at. I can respect. I can respect the attempt and still not like, for sure. That's me still be my to this.

[F]

Day saying what if?

[A]

What if? Also I thought this part of disc two had some of the beats that weren't as lit as the jazzy disc one Beats like this is very. This gives lo fi to me.

[F]

What if. What if the bullshit never got in the way? I still have my to this thing. What's up? I heard that record that you did that just dropped this bubbling got me wondering when the love stopped hit him up. I'm like maybe I should write you before go left the streets. It's a bit upset you claiming that you my for check instead of escalating.

[A]

I can't even hear that.

[D]

Yeah, I was hoping you turned that off again. I don't want to.

[A]

I can't listen to that.

[D]

I don't want to hear this.

[A]

I feel like my problem by now. He said everything that he wanted to say and needed to say and we could have closed this album and been off to the races. But some of this is extra. This is extra.

[D]

What if I just feel like he's too good of a rapper to do that right there. I don't need that from you.

[C]

Fair.

[D]

Not from you. Like the bar is high for J. Cole. My. If you were going to take that concept, you had to deliver better than that.

[C]

And again, to my earlier point point. Mortal man exists. Like Kendrick kind of touched on the Tupac thing and kind of did it better.

[A]

Yeah, this is Quick Stop. This is three in a row where.

[D]

I like, I like, I like, I love. Yeah, I love this one. This is cold. Cold that I don't yes.

[F]

When I call when you. The voice message bro, how the you got so rich and yet you wear the same fits and pair of sneaks like every week. Cause I don't care to change I'm like a creature, a habit plus what's the point? Burning bread when like a creek in your attic I stole still be turning your head just to confirm if that dread headed tall fella is cold I try to walk with the hoodie Whether the weather is cold, whether the weather is warm it's just to cover the form when doing.

[D]

Yeah, you don't with that one. I'm with you again. Yo. The raps are the raps.

[A]

It feels like to me he found a He found a beat with some music that he loved so much. Because I love that music.

[D]

Gotta use it.

[A]

This didn't call for nothing. You know, he's not saying nothing on here. I didn't need that the m. Renegade flow for whatever you. There's nothing he's saying on here that we need this on a double project. I'm. I'm Listen, I like it. I like it. But if you're making a double album, whoever is on the the Vote team, if there even is a vote team, at some point, he might have records he left off. I'm sure, like, maybe it's a deluxe company, but this for me, didn't feel like it was that important for the story or dope enough to be in. Yeah, but I love the music because I love the saxophone and the strings and. But this flow is bothering me.

[D]

He done kill. He done killed the flow.

[A]

The whole album. And now I got.

[F]

Ran out of gas. I pulled into this little station that I had seen on the app in the peculiar hood and unfamiliar paths.

[E]

I got no hoodie. It's bad.

[A]

Oh, yeah. This is the one. Yeah, get him the. Now back this up. I know you don't have nothing to say. Cause you had the gas station in the hoodie. And somebody asked for a picture.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

J. Cole, somebody wants to take a picture of you. Yes, I'm sorry that that's such a big event. Listen to this.

[F]

I pushed the 93 button. Felt like a civilian.

[A]

No, no, shut the up. This for me. For me. This is the adult version of him telling us when he lost his virginity in the class.

[C]

I think that's totally different.

[A]

This is the adult version now. You didn't have nothing to say. You went to the gas station. Somebody wanted a picture. And now, because you just need another song, we have to hear that story.

[B]

See, I see it more like, you know what?

[A]

What happened in the story. What happened? I challenge you. Since y' all love it so much, at the end of it, what happened.

[D]

Happen just sound good.

[A]

All right, I'm done with you.

[D]

What do you want me to do?

[B]

Let's listen.

[F]

Sound like he talking to me. Hey, bro, you smoke marijuana? I got that pack if you need. And I could smell the aroma. I told him, nah, my eye. I never once was the stone that the tank was taking so long to fill up. I thought it was broke. Could feel the curiosity coming from buddy that spoke right then he start to approach. Hey, bro, you look real familiar. I said, I get that a lot. As he got closer, got clever. Oh, shit. That's cold, nigga. Wait, what you doing over this way, bro? I was just 13 years old when I got hold of your tape.

[A]

Nothing about him at 39 sounds lit. Back home, there's no story being told.

[D]

I don't wanna sound lit. That's the story.

[A]

Nothing happened. And there's no stories being told.

[C]

I think there's stories there Is.

[B]

Yeah, to me, the point is, he goes on his whole kind of pilgrimage back home. And by this point, he realizes that that home will never be home again. Because even when he's in a hoodie, even when he's pumping gas, even when n. Trying to just sell him weed, just some regular everyman shit, he gets recognized. And he can't be himself even at home. Cause now he's still gotta take pictures.

[A]

I'm telling you, that's how I felt.

[B]

And maybe I could relate to it.

[A]

But that's not the Sopranos ending that he thinks it is.

[B]

I think it is. Like, you can't go home again. I mean, this might be a taster. I feel you. But it didn't feel as anticlimactic as. As it.

[A]

That don't sound anti climatic.

[D]

Not to me. Not to me.

[E]

Google to see what that meant.

[B]

It makes you add that extra C. Climatic.

[A]

I hear you. I'm with you.

[D]

What you were saying you had your hand. I was about to ask Mark, like, once you reach any level of notoriety or any level of popularity, N. I'm not J. Cole.

[B]

You can't go back to East Hanover.

[A]

You get what I'm saying?

[D]

Like, I. I'm with you. I don't.

[A]

Yeah. Like, if we take him at his word and this is his last out. Nowhere in the world.

[C]

Do you think I don't like hearing this from Ish. Because he had a song called Wawa.

[D]

And I'm not J. Cole. That is my point.

[B]

Wait, you had a song called Wawa?

[A]

No joke. But I never know what you.

[D]

I'm not J. Cole.

[A]

If somebody is saying to J. Cole and Dreamville fans 10 years ago, yo, J. Cole is going to announce his final album. It's going to be a double disc. Track 11 on it is gonna be about him realizing he can't go back home because home will never be the same again.

[C]

That's the narrative of the whole album.

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say if you saying it like that, but if you put it in context of the entire.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

What disc two means. It makes sense.

[B]

It's like punctuating it.

[D]

Yeah, it makes sense in the concept of the entire disc, too.

[C]

I'm totally with you. That some records can be slimmed down.

[D]

Can LeBron James go to Akron without taking pictures?

[A]

Are we talking about, like, I don't.

[D]

Understand, like, did Jay Z go to Marcy?

[A]

That's the big.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, that's like Matt Damon. That's like Matt Damon saying to Ben Affleck and what saying to them in the rip, yo, it was $150,000. It was 200. It's like that's what. Yo was here with you from day one. Since mixtapes you got with Hov, you left Hov. You was silent on it. You was big three. You beefed, you unbeefed, you apologized. The mixtape you gave gave us more of your actual thoughts. Currently.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now you're doing concept. But at the end of this. And I like the Ocean's Outro.

[C]

I don't love that.

[A]

I like the music. Oh, I like the music on the out.

[C]

I like the record before that. That's probably the best rap performance the whole world is. Deville. I think that's the one really, where he starts ramping up the intensity and all that.

[D]

Yeah, yo, you could tell. No, you could kind of tell too. I think he challenged himself because you could hear L. Lupe, you could hear M. Yeah, he tried to do the big in the Park. You can hear Nas in the beginning of the album. You can hear all of his influences. You can hear Jay electronic. You can hear in this album that he evidently looks up to. And he want. Wanted to kind of get their style off in the. I just think that he didn't talk about enough stuff to have 24 albums, bro. I mean, 24 songs. I'm sorry, I just don't think conceptually cool. But just as far as the meat and potatoes, it wasn't enough.

[B]

I think 16 songs and this might be a class classic.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Like, I agree with that.

[A]

To me, he.

[C]

I think he robbed 20.

[A]

He could have did it.

[D]

I think you can say that about every double disc except Life After Death to me.

[B]

Which is why I say the bar.

[C]

Some single disc, too. Yeah, there's bad single discs where he took two or three of them records off.

[B]

But.

[A]

But I mean, don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I like the album.

[D]

That's cool.

[A]

I like the album. There are some of these joints that I'm. I'm going to go back to, especially the girl joints, especially that burner boy that Tim's. That legacy, them records. This is going to be around for a little bit, some of these songs.

[D]

But again.

[A]

But in the scope of his discography, did it change much? For me? Absolutely not. It's still probably Forest Hills Drive as his best project. With Off Season being my favorite project.

[C]

I flip flop those, but I'm right there.

[A]

Yeah. Nothing he did changed, changed that.

[C]

I kind of agree.

[D]

I. I definitely agree.

[C]

In the greatest scope of this. This falls back towards earlier Cole, really.

[D]

Honestly, for me, the one saying, yo.

[A]

This is if hov put out reasonable doubt last, it's not.

[C]

No, no, hell no.

[A]

That's not true. J. Cole. Yeah. I don't want to be a dick for saying that, but that. That's not true. But J. Cole, easily one of the greatest rappers that we have. I love that there's still somebody that actually appreciates the art form that is down to even take risks, conceptually, not hit every mark. Please don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of these things, but just this album did for me also highlights some of the things that frustrate me about J. Cole.

[D]

And I appreciate an artist willing to put out a project that's special to them.

[B]

Word.

[D]

Like instead of just, okay, we gotta do this. We gotta. Okay, we need to go get this feature. We need to get this product producer. We need to know this is the project I want to make correct. I appreciate that. Even if I don't like everything about it, I'm still going to appreciate the fact that you went in. I made a piece of art for my hometown, for my people.

[A]

Because this album, no matter what I felt, feel about it creatively, it did make me. I mean, want to go down south, did it? Yeah. The same way. When Not Like Us, Not Like Us came out, I was like, all right, I have to go to LA la. Just to feel the air while this is out. This. This gives me that.

[D]

You got to be there for.

[A]

For North Carolina and South Carolina for me. Honestly, I should call someone. You did a great job.

[D]

See how they. How they rocking out there.

[A]

I already know what they doing up. I already know. I already know this nigga's got to be like. That's what I'm saying. I love regional hip hop being back. And if you a God in your hometown, get your off, dog. Go ahead, dog. I don't have nothing negative to say about. Go J. Cole. Go J. Cole. Congratulations.

[D]

And congratulations, fans. I've seen a lot of y', all, like, happy y' all got this project finally.

[C]

So for sure.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

And right. Good way to set off the year. Like, it's February. Yeah. Like, let's not be selfish and entitled hip hop fans. It's February. The guy gave us a mixtape or a mix, ep, whatever you want. And a double this.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Along with just staying silent, staying focused, and presenting his art the way it was meant to be presented. J. J. Cole, the person and JCOLE the human and MC NMC. But for me, at 45, it's who you are as a human in person. First, the artwork could come, the art could come later. So jcole Dreamville. Salute, man. Salute. Great job and congrats. Great job. Congratulations.

[C]

Fully independent. I don't know what the businesses obviously, but it seems like it.

[A]

Well, he said it. I ain't a slave no more. I'm done. I'm independent. Everything is my shout out to vinyls. Vinyls. You are absolutely amazing, dog.

[C]

T minus two.

[A]

T minus two brothers that know how I feel about them. Two guys that are absolutely amazing.

[C]

Al Jake one. Jake one did the used to love Jake.

[A]

This my old crew, man. I gotta come back. I gotta come back, man. You got Jake. Yeah. Yeah. Go Jake. One shout out the whole Seattle. Alright, it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize picks. All right, the big game is almost here. And there's no better way to cash in during America's biggest sporting event than prize picks, where it always feels good to be right. And since the big game is right around the corner, that also means this is your very last chance to get into the football action before next season. So close the season out the right way with prize picks by getting $50 instantly in lineups. When you play your first $5 prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick more or less on 2 to 6 players Projected stat line and you have your chance to win big on prize picks. How you play is totally up to you. If you want flexibility, choose Flexp where you can get paid even if one of your picks misses. And if you want the biggest payouts, go for the power play. No matter your play, prize picks is a great way to put your takes to the test. And now for the Joan Ish final picks for the big game. That's right. Now you can order your pizza and chicken wings in peace. You ain't even gotta think about what you're doing on prize picks. You know why our good brother Ishmael is holding you down? Huh? You want to get down in Ish's new friend network, huh? You want to talk to him about it? You want to chat with him? DM him. DM him. Fireside talk, huh? You want to text like he got a Mike Jones number, you know? No. A side phone. You want to chit chat with Ishmael himself? Let me give you some of the Jonah picks of the week, right? Right here we are going with Drake May for more than 220 passing yards.

[C]

Okay, I'm not rolling with that.

[A]

Deaf on Diggs for more than 43 receiving yards.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Sam Darnold for more than five rushing yards and Hunter Henry for more than five targets. Yo, be sure to add us on socials at that's that ish on Instagram. And what's your Twitter name? We'll get right back to you. Put your name on there. I don't know your name.

[D]

If I win you some money, send me some Spanky.

[A]

What's your Twitter name? That's that ish. That's that ish on Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat link. Grindr10. The grinder is Bumble, Tinder, Hinge. That's that ish. Hinge. Unhinged. Mi gente. He still got his account. He still got his Black Planet account. You know where to find him. Listen, and don't forget, download the app right this second. And please use promo code JBP for your chance to win 50 instantly when you play your first five dollar lineup. Only on prize pick where it's good to be. Right. We want to say congratulations to Matthew Stafford for winning mvp. Let me hit the round of applause for my guy. Maddie. Maddie. Stafford announced he will be back for next year. I didn't doubt that at all. So way to go, Matt Stafford. We want to congratulate the wide receiver over there for the Panthers. He won the Offensive Rookie of the Year, Miles Garrett for the Defensive Player of the Year. Who else won that? We need to shout out. Y' all don't know. Y' all don't know.

[C]

Oh, Variable got Coach of the Year.

[A]

Variable Coach of the Year. Way to go. Way to go. Listen, man, congratulations to everybody that won big game on Sunday. Come on, what's your plans? What's your plan? I got the Parks Flyer, so I know what's going on over there. Yeah, little Bad bunny. Cardi B. Do we think Cardi B's coming out?

[D]

Oh, maybe. Oh, yeah, they got there.

[A]

I can see that Cardi B is coming out, man.

[C]

I can see.

[A]

What are we talking about? Who, who else? Who else going to come out? They say Jennifer Lopez is in Vegas at her resident residency attempting to sing Alhamdulillah. Like trying to really hit. Hit him with.

[B]

The last thing I need is. Last thing I need is JLo's vocal up there.

[E]

He. Praise God.

[A]

I can't think of who else. Bad Bun. I'm not sure. Parks.

[C]

Yeah, I'll be there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be lit, man. Pop out. That's gonna be Lit.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Any predictions for the game? Any predictions?

[C]

Seahawks.

[D]

Seahawks by a lot.

[A]

I got Seahawks by like a whole lot.

[C]

I don't bet by a whole lot.

[D]

But I'm comfortable 17 or more by 10 plus.

[B]

So if I were to bet money on the Patriots, I could win some money then.

[D]

Yeah, you could.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I got the.

[B]

I'm strongly. I got a word from a football insider who shares a domicile with my brother. Brother who told me. I stopped the phone with him and he said to absolutely put the money on the Patriots.

[D]

Yo, not for nothing, don't be the. They be knowing. They knowing.

[B]

Shitty. Who should he put his money on? His name is Shitty. They call him Shitty. I don't know why, but that's a.

[C]

Guy with who we should place.

[E]

Have you won with Shitty at all lately?

[A]

No.

[E]

You have.

[B]

Yeah. I haven't bet my money, but his predictions have been right the last.

[A]

That's a nickname I would inquire about. Yeah, yeah, that's a nickname I would have to. Yeah. What's the origin?

[E]

He upstate. His name?

[B]

She locked him upstate.

[E]

Do the math, bro. He paint.

[A]

You be communicating upstate, boy.

[B]

Mona just got the phone with him. You talking my brother?

[A]

Yeah. On brand for Mona. She won't change. Her in Ice.

[E]

I get you.

[A]

I'm trying to lead to a better place.

[E]

Excuse me, Mr. Button.

[A]

I. Mona and ice are like the bottom of the bat. Like. Mona and Ice are like.

[E]

I gave Brother Star. Star, Star 7. He's a 5 percenter. I told him, peace, God. And I gave him some encouraging words. That's what I.

[B]

You just made him popular. She shot. He's like, yo, y' all know somebody named Don't Call me Word, girl.

[D]

She told him, put me on hold and let everybody know that you on the phone with. Don't call me. Watch how your life change. Watch how your life change. And it changed.

[E]

We good tonight. Watch. Y' all know how.

[A]

I got Seattle special team scoring points. I got Seattle defense scoring points. Points. Drake May is still a second year quarterback. I got the lights being bright. I. Yeah, I got it. I got Seattle by double digits.

[B]

Double digits.

[A]

I got Seattle by double digits. I do. And I might put something on it, I think. Seattle, final game of the year.

[D]

I don't think. I don't think the game gonna be as far fetched as y' all think, though. And I could see a world where New England wins the game.

[A]

If Cardi B is performing, which I believe she is, that means that she'll be at super bowl with her man that she's in love with. Do I trust Stephon Diggs to go to bed early on a Saturday night in the Bay? I do not. Do I trust Boot and Trayvon Henderson and all of these young Patriots to go out there and be the old Patriots? You knew that wherever them niggas was going, they was going focused. And Gronk. And Gronk didn't count.

[C]

Well, Wes Welker wasn't turning up in the streets.

[A]

But Gronk, you thought could break day to night before and go out there and do everything he needed to do. Hangover these Patriots. I don't really get that feeling from. Congratulations to everybody in New England. What a quick rebuild. What do you guys think about Tom Brady? Because I'm not going to drag us with worst take for too long. What do you guys think about Tom Brady not really supporting the Patriots winning publicly. And do you think he's justified in that? The second year young model face quarterback that got him to the super bowl fast.

[D]

Oh, you mean him you talking about.

[A]

Did what you did?

[C]

Nah, it's a little different.

[D]

It's different, of course. I'm just saying. But Tom Brady was the young chiseled model face that came in out of nowhere on some injury and got us up here.

[C]

Yeah, but Drake May was like number two pick or some like that. He was high.

[D]

I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying is Tom Brady should support them.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Depends on the relationship.

[D]

Why don't he gotta.

[A]

Why would he? Why? Why does he have to.

[D]

He don't have to do shit. I'm saying he's playing the fence.

[A]

He's playing. He's straddling the middle right this second publicly. Because whoever thought that he would have a broadcasting job that paid a billion dollars to where we would have to. All right. And whoever thought that you would have that in the patch would be in a Super Bowl.

[C]

Tricky now. Cause he's with the Raiders. So that's a little opie.

[A]

And he's with the Raiders. Yeah. If I'm Tom Brady, I'm not mad at and not publicly supporting the Raiders, dog.

[D]

In the beginning, Troy Aikman, the nigga used to be cursing the fucking Cowboys. They kind of settled in our mediocrity now. But back then they was cursing us the fuck out, bro. Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, them niggas used to be mad at us when we used to be doing dumb shit and losing games.

[A]

Mad.

[D]

Mad, like visibly mad. So I think that your heart is with the organization that you played For. I don't think there's nothing wrong with. He said, yo, I would prefer for New England to win.

[A]

You think Tom Brady's heart is in New England? Because I don't.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, I don't.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

I don't think that at all.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Nothing since his divorce. Nothing since he left and won with the bucks. Nothing tells me that his heart is over the. Listen, I'm not having a Super bowl party. I'm not having a Super bowl kickback. Kickback. I'm not having a Super bowl get together. My girl is not gonna be here. So patriarchy is not existing, which means there's no food. I'm not ordering wings and pizza for a bunch of hungry niggas. I'm not doing. I'm on zepbound. I barely eat.

[B]

I'm not not.

[A]

I'm not going out of my way Super Bowl Sunday to do nothing. I might make some chicken dip and a sausage, egg and cheese if I'm in a really good mood, but I plan on sitting in front of. Huh?

[E]

You said chicken.

[A]

Beef. Chicken dip.

[E]

Like Buffalo chicken dip.

[A]

Buffalo chicken dip.

[E]

Go ahead, Joey.

[A]

I'm making amazing.

[E]

That's a good joint, Joey.

[A]

And I've been saving recipes for dips that I've been seeing on Instagram and some soups I know I shouldn't like.

[D]

Spanish.

[E]

Like collard green dip.

[A]

What is she Spanish recipes.

[D]

It's cool.

[A]

Oh, the chefs I've been looking at. No, they're not. They're not Spanish. You feeding into a narrative that's been painted and misrepresented. I like soul food. Ish. If you didn't know soul.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

Soul. Oh, you moved over soul food now. That's been for life.

[D]

Change cuisine.

[A]

That's been for life, my brother.

[E]

Not to change cuisine. They funny.

[A]

I mean this over here with chicken casserole. Shut the up.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[A]

White, you be eating.

[B]

Anyway.

[A]

Where was I?

[C]

We were talking about super bowl time break.

[A]

Oh, yeah. So ain't nothing fun happening at my house for Zoobo. I'm gonna have a candle or incense lit. I'll have the game on some surround surround sound speakers. But don't expect like, a big hurrah. And if you just hit me on the humbug, don't think you coming. And it's gonna be just laid out everywhere. My girl is back home buying all this super bowl football, make the table pretty type. You such a dweeb. Like, I get. I get the people that. I get the people that's into doing like that. But when I sit, when real niggas see it, it's like her team there.

[E]

That's cute.

[C]

Oh, that's true too.

[D]

Yeah, people do that when they. When they hometown team go.

[A]

Hometown team. Ain't been to Boston in 37 years.

[D]

That's a whole team.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I know it is. I might go to my mom is a fan now. Your team there. Oh, my team. Knock it off. I love you, baby. Hayden Hayton Y back to music. Back to music. Lma put out a phenomenal project.

[C]

I can't wait to listen to it. I listen to a single note.

[D]

Yeah, I know. I ain't even an R B dude. The album yesterday early and I was just like, I ain't had nothing to do, so I listen to it. Yeah, that is fire, that. She has a fire project. Shouts to the executive producer on that one.

[A]

You might be a R B dude when you're in the house, though. When you in the house. I might could see you getting in your bag before a little cunningus.

[C]

A little what?

[A]

Before a little cunningus for what is that? Here, you know, the worker. What was the word?

[D]

You got it.

[C]

Cuddling pretty close.

[A]

I can see you throwing on a little Max B folded. Wait.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Before that. Cunning.

[D]

I thought this was going to say Maxwell.

[E]

Crazy.

[A]

He's crazy now, you know. Freeze grow on the Max B. Folding. I let your body decide if this is good or big.

[D]

Freeze, throw a little sexy love on.

[A]

Scratching her up with that rough ass beard. Okay. Getting Beijing all over the pussy. Getting your beard dye on the kun link this in Beijing all over nasty ass face. Anyway, Ella, listen. Jason Tatum, EP of the year. Come on, man. Yeah, come on out of here. I don't know why you didn't try to take credit for this project. You really put your foot in this one. And I'm joking, of course. Cuz I don't want to take away from the people that actually contribute.

[C]

Mustard puts together really good albums too.

[E]

Yes, he does.

[A]

Mustard and Ella May. When she ain't putting a two minute poem. A two minute poem that nobody asked for at the end of the song. Oh, boy. Oh, buddy. Hey. She cut them bum ass poems off the songs. We are outta here. My n. She heard us. It's good as a fan to feel heard sometimes. Yo her album. Cause I was J Colon all morning. I put it in while I was in the shower and I took a long shower. Scrubbing, scratching all types of shit. Dirty ass nigga.

[E]

No exfoliation.

[A]

Oh, all of that.

[D]

You Crazy. You know he only shower on POD days.

[A]

You don't want to play with my bed with my shower regimen.

[E]

He only showers on pod.

[A]

You don't want to play with my. With my podcast regimen. You listen to Freeze without me. I mean, you listening to Freeze about. Don't say nothing I said. You get knocked out like that. You said it. You get knocked out for saying something I said. But I don't know. I don't feel like getting off the couch right now. I know you don't, but at some point, jump off.

[D]

Get back. Get sat back down.

[A]

You're not dumb. You're not dumb. You're not brand new, but you still sitting down. You're not brand new.

[D]

You still sitting down though.

[A]

That's true, cuz. I love you. I ain't doing that.

[E]

If that boy get up fast, he gonna see stars dizzy.

[D]

This week.

[A]

Nice, right? I look good.

[E]

You look good. Well, I know you can't jump up quick. That blood sugar up. Let's be real. We all know this new is not the health of this route.

[A]

You know what I mean? This stupid ass couch don't let you jump up there. Jason Tatum, lma. Phenomenal job on this project. You did a great job. Shout out to Mustard. Really good project in your phone and on DSPS right this second. If you haven't had a chance to check it out. Margo, you coming to work? What are you doing?

[C]

You're not really cutting across, you're cutting behind.

[D]

Album is called do you still love me? So go check it out.

[C]

I can't wait to listen to it. I'm a huge fan.

[A]

It's Heat and Hold up now because everybody was getting out of J. Cole's way for sure. Smart and I understand that. However, Sasha Keeble put out her deluxe project, which I wouldn't normally be super excited about because I hate when they make me buy album that I already have. However. However. Hold up now.

[D]

Is that how that goes? Deluxe? Hold up now you gotta buy out the new songs.

[E]

Hold up. Yeah, I guess things never change. How long can you wait on me? How long can you put the blame on me? I told you about a hundred times, showed you about a hundred more. You done crossed a hundred times. You finish, you can run no more. Time to put the shit aside and open up another door. What the fuck you crying for? That's all you. Try to re it then end up back in the same dick.

[A]

Now. Hold up, man. I'm just giving him a taste. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, man. Man. At this point I hadn't purchased this yet, but just rock with me. At this point. I was on the fence still, but I was jamming. I was jamming.

[E]

Here.

[A]

Go. N turn it off. They don't feel me yet. Hold up, hold up. At this point we hit purchase at this point we hit purchase on this project. Shout out to Sasha Keeble. It's crazy.

[E]

I know you got issues street she know I done see all your handshake.

[A]

So take her back to the crib tell her that you are some kiss.

[E]

Better take all our pigs off the fridge Cuz you don't want my face staring back at you Making you feel guilty before you slip out that D on she showing all of her can't turn you on. Who going love you like I do. You can go ahead and play Bridget with somebody else.

[A]

Shout out to her, man Shout out to her Sound good? Her deluxe is crazy for her album was already incredible, so she put five joints on there that also still sound great and sound like it's a part of the project. It didn't sound like she missed a beat at all. So just wanted to highlight her and shout out to the rest of you that got out of J. Cole's way. Huh? Shout out to y'. All. Huh? Huh, Bruno Mars. I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. Shout out to J. Cole, man Go North Carolina. Go, North Carolina. That's the other thing. At some point on the album and I'm done with the album review, but I'm just. Just random thoughts. At some point on the album, he did try to make us spell out Fayetteville. No.

[C]

No.

[A]

Like, you can't be so North Carolina that you spell out Fayetteville.

[C]

Too many words, too many letters.

[A]

Sorry, sorry. No, it wasn't for us.

[D]

No, it wasn't for us.

[A]

That's what I. Nah, nigga, I'm from there. My roots is from over there.

[D]

Please.

[A]

I can't spell Fayetteville without a rhyming over the beat. Don't try to make me say it and sound cool. Also wanting to let out. Like the let out I like is. It's cool, Bob, but just for the let out. Like, for the let out. I could see them playing that in North Carolina at the let out. I can't just on some. When R B used to come on at that moment. But yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know. Good project, Good project. Go Go, J. Cole. I'm happy for him, man. I'm happy for that guy. All right, come on. Come on. Let's have some fun. Let's have some fun.

[B]

This is kind of still on music. It's definitely fun. Y' all see Glorilla sibling?

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Yes, I did.

[E]

Definitely.

[A]

I did. I did.

[B]

I saw the interview. Apparently she's not happy with the amount of support they getting from Glo financially. And they went on TMZ about it.

[C]

That's fucked up.

[A]

First of all, very Stevens that you feel that your sister has an obligation to share the wealth. Hell, yeah.

[E]

Yeah, she got an obligation to share the wealth. We sat here, we struggle together, took baths and bottles of water, breast brooches, all that. Yeah, she obligated them friends. Obligated. She doing everything for them. So, yeah. Yeah, I feel like I'm obligated.

[A]

What is it you think she's not doing for the family? What? What is the. You're making it sound like there's a real financial hardship. Describe. Describe what you're talking about.

[E]

She's not doing nothing. Nothing?

[B]

Nothing.

[E]

She's not doing nothing to change at all. She do. She do little oohs and ahs for our parents or whatever, but barely nothing. Cause my mama's still clocking the clock at FedEx. Oh, she don't want to work. Gloria got y' all believing this fake ass imaginary thing where she retired them. No, she did not. My dad retired from because his time was up. She supposed to have retired my mama, but she didn't. My mama still clocking the clock at FedEx.

[A]

Why does she owe it to you? To support you and to support the family beyond what she wants to do. It's her money, right?

[E]

Because don't go on no interviews. Talk about our struggle. You want to do that. That's not right.

[B]

Right.

[E]

You don't share and talk about struggle. Sharing struggle with. You're not one sibling. You got nine other sibling.

[A]

This clip is long, so I'm going to fast forward to the end.

[E]

She got plenty other. Yeah, other.

[A]

All right, we got it. Let me go to the end, cuz. This is important of that does she owe to you? Hold up. War was not. She didn't actually.

[E]

What evidence do you have? Of course she gonna try to make it look good for y'. All. My dad over broke as a Right.

[A]

Now, let's say she has $2 million. How much of that does she owe to you and the rest of the family? Of that 2 million she get all.

[E]

For like 2500 a piece.

[A]

How much? 2500. Talking about, like, how for.

[D]

That's it, just 2500 flat?

[E]

Or is that right up 25, I think.

[A]

Well, I think she would jump at that. I think if that. If that's all you want, I think blow might jump it.

[E]

But imagine her being over four years and not giving us zero. None at all.

[A]

What does your mom think about you? I cut it off, bro. Distinguished panel, bro. That's you guys.

[E]

First of all, they look so much alike that it was me up because she. She. She appears to be like a lesbian. Like, she dressed like a guy a little bit or whatever. I don't wanna sue him. But I checked her Facebook. She gay. And she looks just like a really. She just look a little older than her, a little thicker than her. So that's the first motherfuck. And the second one is like, when it finally hit me that, oh, this baby a little slow, you know, like she's talking to Harvey and them on tmz. Like she talking to the Facebook Live. Like she's assuming that Harvey Barbie follows gorilla and know that she posted that she retired them people and all that. Like, she talking like she made conversation. And then with the 2500, the baby ain't. Do the math. If the got 2 million, how much would you want? And I guarantee y' all that when she got done with that interview, somebody called her and said. And broke it down to her. And then it hit her like, maybe I should have said 25, 000. You know, she slow. At the end of the day, I would believe it more if another sibling came out. It's only one. And the thing is, this is all, like, debatable because some people feel like you owe your family, some people don't. I don't feel like you owe the motherfuckers nothing. She too young to have to take care of them people. You know what I mean?

[A]

Please, I could not disagree more with your assertion that they resemble each other. Oh, let me just talk. They maybe did. Hey, I'm sure there was a time when you was 7 and she was 8, and y' all both was just bad built, bad jawlines and just dumb looking in the face together in Wichita or wherever the fuck where they was at.

[E]

They were Memphis.

[A]

Memphis. Oh, they was in Memphis. Oh, so, yeah, when y' all was seven and eight, I could see you both looking at each other like, yo, we is some ugly motherfuckers. I can see that back in the day. I'm not saying. I'm saying that because I think Lil is beautiful.

[D]

Of course.

[A]

Of course I think Lil is beautiful. But I want to spend some time on the loser sibling and their point of view. For me, at some point, one of them. Us. One of us is going to say, you know what? I don't want to live like this no more. I don't want to be ugly. I want to look like this no more. I want ass, titties. I want some tits. I want a ball player. I want to leave this trailer home that we in. And I'm tired of opening my bedroom door and looking at the loser bitch version of me. Me with no ambition, no goals, no way. A trailer home was gonna always be in the loser siblings. Future niggas that got siblings out there. You was in the same crib. You know what it is when you know your sibling was gonna be a loser for the rest of life and you was gonna glow up. So that's what happened. They don't look alike at all. Glow, glow is chilling.

[D]

Glow, glow up.

[A]

Glow, glow, glow, glowed up this little stud. Find a face looking girl here, fam. No, no, no. And Harvey Weinstein know better than to.

[D]

Go find Harvey Weinstein.

[A]

I mean, not Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Einstein. What's his name? I don't know Harvey from tmz. You knew that you was going to put the phone or. Or the zoom on the loser siblings. See, and topics like these trigger me. Cause I've had siblings call in the radio stations or niggas call them to try to get some dirt, and I be like, dog, of course that's gonna be they version of the story. Hey, hey. This motherfucker got lit. Got rich. Never helped mom, never helped dad. The whole family ate them. Hey, all that could be true, but guess what? Is that sibling lit right now? And are family members hitting them for a helping hand when the mechanic bill cost more than you thought you right to hitting. Gloria, Stop it. I didn't pay the story no mind. After Glorilla posted the text from her mother that said, daughter. Hey, yo. And when you not the loser sibling, the parents text you different.

[E]

Thanks.

[A]

Sorry, sorry, sorry. I hope I'm not offending anybody out there. The winner sibling, the mom and dad is hitting like, yo, you held it down for me this month. Thank you, yo, I'm so proud of you. You became everything I thought you would and more. The whole family is appreciative of you, yo. Such Sarah would be in such a bind if you didn't come through. And yada, yada, yada, that's what the text looked like once GLOW posted that I didn't want to hear from the sibling. No woman, but my girl send me 2000 memes a day that don't have nothing to do with the busiest day in the world that I'm having with work. So I have to know about this stupid ass story with this sibling.

[E]

You know what I found interesting? The blogs found an old DV where the sister stud master 3000 is arrested for threatening Gloria with a pistol. So they've had.

[B]

To get it. You ain't getting.

[E]

It's nine. It's nine of them. It's always been a story. They come from a very religious background. Glorilla's name is Gloria.

[A]

Hallelujah.

[E]

If I'm not mistaken, one of the parents are like a member of the church, like a deacon or something. So I'm just thinking in my don't.

[A]

Brush right by that. What's this little stud girl name? Hey, wait. Loser sibling. Figure that for me. A loser sibling? Your. Your sister's name from Rip when y' all both was bummy, was Gloria. Hallelujah, bitch.

[E]

That's a fact.

[A]

What did you think the future was about to play out? Like, what this bitch name? Sam or something? The stud girl. Scarface girl? Please. Victoria woods is a real name. Oh, you was about to lose anybody. The parent tried to make victory be in your name. They didn't see a bright. They didn't see a bright future for you. Sometimes the parents could spot it right out the womb. Who's gonna be the loser sibling, and who's gonna be the winner sibling? Honestly, that's what they gonna do now. I'm sorry if I'm triggering people out there to have, like, beefs with their parents because they were the loser sibling at some point. But some of y' all siblings are absolute losers. We knew you wasn't getting no record deal, girl. You wasn't about to save us. You wasn't about to change the fucking generational curse. You could barely make grits.

[E]

She probably.

[A]

What the fuck are you talking about? What the was she talking about? And then to get all the way to the end, and they ask her, what would you have needed?

[C]

25.

[E]

As soon as I heard that, 2500, I said, Joe Button. Cause he just said that like, I'm telling y', all, 2500 to get it done. That might be my offer rate for everything from here on out.

[A]

Every day I come to work, 2500. I. I say that like the numbers that barely hit the lottery with Rest in Peace to Bailey, $2,500 is all you need. And y' all be trying to sibling me to death, because that word should make us feel warm and cozy inside. Guess what? Hey, some of y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

We hate y' all siblings. We siblings. We wasn't close in the house, and.

[E]

We ain't pick you or have you.

[A]

We was in there about to kill each other whenever mom went to work. But the. Are you. Of course, I blew up and didn't give you a picture, a penny.

[D]

It was lit till you got here.

[A]

Did you think I was gonna blow up and give you a penny? I know you judge me. You don't have siblings.

[C]

You can't relate.

[A]

Yeah. How do you feel about your uncle? That's how feel about their.

[E]

Even when you really see the chain of events, when Scarface goes live, she mad as it almost gives. She just asked her for something, and then when she goes live, she like, I'll expose your favorite rapper. So it's like, now you threatening me with it. It's just corny.

[C]

Oh, you don't get it done.

[D]

Not a lot of people wasn't getting it before this.

[E]

And not a lot of people in our position would ever co Sign shit like this. Because what going on in the family ever constitutes you doing an interview. Like, if you work at FedEx and you work at Target, Why the. Are you talking to tmz?

[A]

Why do you have a cell phone? How are you paying this? You broke bump the loser sibling. You be so shocked when they make, like, small accomplishments. I got my license. Hey, yo, I got. Yo, I got my.

[D]

I got.

[A]

Finally got my license together. You be like, oh, look at you. You did that. Look at you.

[B]

That's true, though.

[A]

The loser sibling. The loser sibling. Been locked up your whole life. Thirty years later, we gotta celebrate. Cause they in a hospital now.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, you know. Hey, you know, Jack got out of there. He in a home. Wait, what?

[E]

That's crazy.

[A]

Hey, all I know is Jack been out of my life for 45 years. Loser sibling. Come on. Y' all don't wanna. This fucking triggers me. I ain't gonna.

[D]

You can tell.

[B]

I can say so.

[A]

No, it really is sick.

[E]

It really is gross. And it's like, you know, if it's a criminal thing, like, you know, like the police had to come and break up a sibling fight. That girl been jealous of her probably. You know what I mean? Forever. These little issues probably went on when they was kids. I mean, did these.

[B]

Or she could have been fucked up to her sister her whole life or.

[D]

She could have looked her sister or she could have looked her sister out.

[C]

I.

[D]

People always forget all you do once you tell them no. Yeah, we ain't gonna tell her what she done did for her.

[E]

Yeah, that's a fact.

[D]

Especially after posting the text for moms. Whatever. You don't know how many times you don't look that little sister out. But now I'm saying no right now.

[B]

She says zero.

[A]

That's what happens.

[B]

It becomes a whole other.

[E]

It's only as good as your last. Yes.

[A]

Cause GLOW real friends came out too and started talking now.

[E]

Saying what? I ain't see that.

[A]

Come on now. You did some research on. I told y' all that my girl communicates through memes.

[C]

Shout out to Sade.

[A]

Doing the producer and she produces. She does produce for this pod, so let me not shit on her. Shout out to my baby. Hey, audience. Any of them girly sassy ass topics that I bring up, did y' all call me gay for? It's really from my girl and I think it's entertaining for the female audience. It's from Sha.

[B]

That's a good cover. That's a good cover.

[A]

But Dupren says, bitch, where you was at when GLOW was homeless? Facts. Oh, where you was at when Glo didn't have two rocks to rub together and needed to stay on somebody couch? Where was all the siblings and the family then? See, that's what I'm talking about.

[D]

They was broke too.

[E]

Yeah, Marco, they was looking for rocks.

[D]

I might have been on. I might have been on somebody else couch.

[A]

You know the other.

[D]

Can't bring you on a couch with me.

[A]

You know the other bad thing about making it.

[C]

All goes back to J Cola.

[A]

You could see the missteps from people beneath you. Sometimes you walk up to him and you try to help him. Hey, sometimes you knowing with your bright future and your potential and all of your. You got the brightest future, you go to the loser sibling, try to help them out one day cause you feel bad. Hey, what's up with that food truck? Food truck? I know you wanted to be a chef. What's up, man? Loser siblings say some loser shit to you. Like, I just don't. I just don't even know anymore, man.

[E]

I want to.

[A]

I don't know. I just want to go to the parking place.

[D]

Don't me with no food truck.

[A]

Lose a sibling. Say something. I just need so much money. But I ain't taking it from you. I get it on my own. So it's gonna take me 11 years to get that. And then once I get it, I'mma park it there. Yo, you looking at the loser like.

[C]

Oh, you don't want help?

[A]

Oh, okay.

[E]

He is crazy.

[A]

Okay. All right. Good luck. Yeah, good luck.

[E]

Always got a grand idea.

[A]

That's stupid as the loser sibling won't call you. Your day busy as listen what you think about putting a plate on a tire Facts like a. Like a rim but cheaper to produce. And you could eat off of it like for the damn sa the car.

[B]

You be looking at your loser side of this man.

[D]

He's absolutely right on my side.

[E]

Is known to man as your cousins.

[D]

Told him we give him the soup for free. Rent them spoons like this. Honestly, like shut the up, bro.

[A]

You didn't even know that your the was such a loser cuz you don't even really kick it with them until that one day you was free that afternoon I try to have a little talk with him. You be like, oh, you are dumber than me and mom even thought. What you you try not to tell them that. You and mom they help me and your parents think you are a complete idiot. You holding the family back a little bit.

[E]

And they always super entrepreneurial. I can't work for people I'm not that kind of.

[D]

I can't.

[E]

I can't.

[D]

I can't work for the white man. I can't work for the white man.

[A]

No. Yeah. N. We ain't lending you. We ain't lending you nothing. The loser sibling. I can see the. The. The loser sibling had of bunch a boyfriend before glow.

[D]

N. She was 6.

[A]

She was 6. Oh, she is.

[E]

She's the boy. That girl been a one of them for her whole life. You could tell she dug in in the community.

[A]

Go rewrite the face T. You know what I mean? The fade.

[E]

That's fade and nobody's judging her for it. It's just. She's just gross. It's gross in general. And she sound jealous cuz with another thing. She kept saying. That's probably why the friend said something. It's a response. She said something at first. She kept saying, well, what you do for them friends you do for them friends is just jealous shit. Some people friends of their family.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. I see a different. I mean I don't know what happened in their family. Cause every family different, right?

[C]

So here comes some maturity.

[A]

You know what happened. It happened to every black family. It happened to your family. It happened to everybody family. Everybody family got this.

[B]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, like I.

[A]

Don'T know 95% of black families. If it ain't you, it's your uncle's set of kids, it's your aunt's set of kids. You know, to lose a kid in your family, you do.

[E]

But right now, you said loser kid.

[A]

You may be him.

[B]

If you can't find a loser, you're. Yeah, I get that. But, like, if.

[A]

If.

[B]

Unless we got beef or some happen. I do feel like I owe you something.

[E]

How?

[B]

As my sibling.

[D]

Ain't no way.

[B]

We grew up together. And I'm got money and you homeless or you want to couch some and. And I got millions. You. I'm giving you something.

[E]

I think it's. I think that it's. It's. It's admirable that you wouldn't let your sibling get to that point. But I don't think you owe them that.

[B]

Well, let me ask y' all a question. Do you owe your mom. Let's assume Scarface is right. Do you owe your mom to retire her? If you can afford to do it?

[C]

Does she want to work still?

[D]

She working at FedEx in Memphis.

[B]

Don't nobody want to work at FedEx.

[D]

The headquarters she's telling what she do.

[A]

There, 1 and 2.

[D]

She might stay at that job for some good fucking benefits. She might not necessarily want to retire.

[C]

What she does there is very important in this conversation.

[A]

It's important. This is the main. Parents be hard. I'm not moving from this crib. I'm not leaving my job.

[D]

We don't know.

[A]

I'm not leaving this senior.

[D]

And there's the other part that we overlooking. Who say she got all this money?

[E]

Exactly.

[B]

That's why.

[A]

But, well, she has 25.

[B]

She got $2,500.

[A]

She has $22,500.

[E]

I'm sure she got that 2500.

[B]

She has to for one off for 2500.

[E]

But just then, if that's that. That's the thing. It's never a one off the 2500 that expires in the summer. In the summer, she forgets that it happened. And now I need something.

[D]

Gave her the 25 before. We don't know.

[B]

But if she didn't, do you feel like she should?

[A]

If she did, all she have to do is use the same lie that I've been telling everybody. Yes, you and my will.

[B]

Oh, that's good.

[A]

Yo, you think I look niggas dead? Yo, you think I ain't take care of you honestly when I'm gone? Millions and you going already?

[B]

I'm using that oh, my kids.

[D]

Seriously, I don't care about your. Will I need money today?

[B]

Will you pay me now?

[A]

Off you today? No, I will not off you today.

[B]

Counterpoint.

[A]

Good point, good point.

[E]

Does it matter how your sibling asks? Like, if your sibling comes, will entitle you still give it to them?

[B]

No, I would want to less. I probably, yeah, it would affect how I think about it. But I'm saying at the core, I feel like I owe them something to my parents. I definitely do. Again, if you got good parents, if your parents molested you or beat you or put you out or. You know what I mean, snitched on you, I get it. It's different. But if you have regular parent kid relationship. Yeah, I think your parents. If you can afford for your parents not to work, you should retire.

[A]

If the sibling is gonna leave streaks on my windshield after they clean it, then don't bother with it. Don't bother. Just take it.

[D]

Ain't got the good squeegee.

[A]

Yeah. If you don't have the old shit.

[D]

The old shit that don't even really.

[A]

Cause it's a hand. It's. If you can't get that snap, then I just give you the money you ain't got. Go ahead.

[E]

And I have a question for all of you.

[A]

What's up, Big Mona?

[E]

Because I have siblings, but they weren't raised with my dad. Had kids later. Right.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

If mom should be retired, right? Is that. Should mom be the one that tell Glori? Or do the siblings get together and say, yo, why you ain't retired, Mommy? You know what I mean? Like, can she come out and complain that mom didn't get retired?

[C]

I feel like retired a parent's more expensive than people are for sure.

[E]

Is that cool as a sibling, to represent mom in that way and speak for them like, yo, you know Mommy ain't gonna say it, but that's up. You ain't retired, Mommy. Is that like your job as a sibling?

[D]

I think. I think the. The biggest piece is because somebody see you on tv, they automatically just be like, oh, you rich.

[A]

Facts.

[D]

And that's the case.

[E]

Facts.

[D]

They think that about us.

[A]

Like, yo, dog, no, not with the boosters talk, right? Who think y' all rich getting vacuums from boosters? Like, somebody could look at your lifestyle and see that y' all are not rich.

[D]

Get Rolexes from boosters.

[A]

Did you get yours from a booster?

[D]

I did not.

[A]

Did you get yours from a booster?

[D]

I don't have one.

[A]

Okay. I don't think nobody in your life is Looking at y' all like, y' all super up, though.

[C]

I would buy Rolex from a booster. That seems risky.

[B]

I would have to get it, like, appraisal.

[E]

Yo, like this crazy.

[A]

It'd be tough to keep a straight. I'm great, though. You are great.

[E]

It's crazy, bro. No, but answer the question, y'. All. Is that like, like, like, is that normal for one of the siblings to speak for mom?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I think it depend on the relationship thousand percent.

[A]

But the loser sibling can't because you don't really know how mom feel.

[E]

That's not true.

[D]

They might be around mom more.

[B]

They the ones the closest.

[D]

They still home.

[E]

But mom's not complaining.

[A]

Mom is not telling them the truth.

[E]

They can't help.

[D]

Listen to this.

[E]

Mom telling them we.

[A]

Mom telling the good sibling the truth.

[D]

Let's just say hypothetically, you. You had a sister or a brother that lived at home with mom. That was the. The loser, right? And they see your mother busting her ass. They see your mother getting on the bus. They see your mother back hurting and really struggling out here to make ends meet, and you might be up.

[A]

That's true. 30, 40 M's. That's what the system. That's what the loser system, sibling. Dude, walk mommy to the bus stop.

[B]

Yeah, go get.

[D]

Go get some of them bags.

[A]

Yeah, that's what you got it. Yeah, you're right, big dog. You're right, big dog. Are you me?

[E]

I know the mom is mortified, though. I feel bad for mom. That sucks. Like, they had you or she like.

[B]

Yeah, like, you this up. I was just about to finally get some bread from glow, and now you.

[E]

Did this because glow's responding like GLOW made her picture because the. The daughter. Because loser sibling must have have got a job at FedEx with Mommy. So Glorilla used her sister's picture with the FedEx outfit and then put it on her Facebook. And the caption is.

[C]

Indeed, you do a lot of Facebook.

[A]

If you confused out there about if you may or may not be to lose a sibling if your mother got you the job, thanks. It's true. Like, what idiot.

[D]

Hey, got a point.

[A]

Hey, if wherever you work, mom put in a few calls, it's you.

[D]

You had to call in a favor.

[A]

Mom was worried about you. But, like, mom ain't want to go to upgrade. Worried about one kid. One kid doing good. This other one. Now, come on. Call Verizon. Yo. Come on, come on, come on, come on.

[D]

He just going through some tough.

[E]

That's crazy.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

Oh.

[D]

Stupid.

[A]

Oh, My God. Shout out. Shout out to Glorilla sister. Man, if I'm Goril, I'll never speak the shorty again.

[C]

Yeah, I'm go hang out, make it worse.

[A]

You know what else about the loser sibling?

[E]

St. Horner back in the day, bro.

[A]

We going to move on from this cuz I'm too triggered. But the loser sibling don't even know that the sibling with a record deal probably is paying the mortgage or the rent. Thanksgiving grocery. It's so much that the loser sibling don't even know what's happening.

[D]

You know what happened?

[A]

Because you a loser.

[D]

The loser sibling went to borrow money from moms and mom ain't happy.

[A]

Mom go get it from glow.

[D]

No, mom didn't have it at mom.

[A]

Go get it from now.

[D]

Loser sibling got mad at GLOW cuz mom ain't had the money. That's what that I'm not getting?

[C]

No, that's the other. He's right.

[A]

The loser siblings going mom to get money.

[C]

Mom's coming to GLOW to get money. So the loser sibling thinks she's getting it for mom.

[D]

I know, but I'm just saying this now. Now I'm mad at glow. Now I'm mad at GLOW because mom don't have it this time, right?

[A]

Lastly, this is my very last thought on the loser siblings. Shit, I don't want to do this whole segment and just shit on loser siblings without giving them some advice. I'm part of the problem if I only talk about the problems and not the solution. Oh my God. Fair Loser siblings very important how you time your makeup with your superstar sibling. I think this stud face lady lady timed this horribly. Glorilla is on Grammy nominations and probably 10 to 12 hit singles in know when you should have been plotting this move? Hey, you live in Memphis, right? You got a radio, you got a walkman, you got an ipod. Let me tell you when you should have planned this.

[E]

I'm L R E E. Whoa.

[A]

I'm going right now. Yo, you need your sneakers clean. You need your laundry done. Yo, when you put your ear to the hallway and heard your sister in the other room doing this, let me tell you how it sounded too. That's how it sound in the memory.

[D]

That's how it sounded, right?

[A]

Like at this point is when you should have been playing when your hallway was shaking off this. Listen stupid.

[E]

That was too busy hating. I promise. She changed the game that summer. Snap Real. What a time in a Maxima.

[A]

Shout out to you loser siblings out there, man. While I'm on the topic of losers. I went home the other day and saw that Corey Holcomb still had my name in his mouth. I'm really so confused about that with all the controversy he's been caught up in lately. Corey Holcomb, you don't fight well enough to do this with me like we have video with you. You not smart enough, strong enough, big enough, fast enough to do none of this. You talking about. We saw you with the homie, Anton. He asked you to walk outside and you remain stationary. Corey Oakland, please keep my name out of your mouth and don't take anything I'm saying as like a threat to you. I wouldn't plan on doing nothing when I see you. Actually, if I saw you and we were breathing the same airspace, I would take it as a threat to me. A threat from God, a threat from life that we even in the same fucking circumference. Corey Holcomb, your fall from disgrace has been one that should be studied from kind of funny to kinda bummy to I'm just the dummy. You over there struggling. You look a sandwich away from welfare. You dusty dog shit in the face looking motherfucker boy. Corey Holcomb, I can't believe that you are engaging this way when you fight that way. Honestly. Honestly, it's over. You over there just lonely and poor. Your co host look bad. Not the woman. I'm not talking about her. Everything over there look bad. I know you down bad. Cause you on a Costco table. Pardon? In front of a fake plant that appears to be dying. You failed at fatherhood. You hate yourself, you hate your daughter, your daughter hates you. You failed at fatherhood, finances. You failed it funny. Your pod sucks. You failed at fodder. You just a failure all around the board. And don't forget the original point. You don't fight well enough to do none of this with nobody. So prayers up to Corey Holcomb. We're not going to go back and forth in an exchange because I just don't feel the need to do that with you. I was just shocked to see that you still had a voice over there.

[B]

Damn. Should do that over the ether beat.

[A]

No, man, please. For Corey, please. Corey over there no shape up. A dusty derby. Corey look like he is. He look like grandless puba. Grandless P. Corey. Cory over there looking like the store runner for a black biker gang. Cory look like he covered in just warts and scabs. Corey look ashy yet damp like he. He like there's no reason why he shouldn't have the time. For a back and forth with nobody right this second, it looked bad. It looks bad. It looks bad over there. And that's before he started losing all these gigs. Cause of that video that came out. So prayers up to you, my brother. You gonna need it. What else? What else we got going on?

[B]

I don't even know how to transition.

[C]

From that at all.

[A]

Who else? I need to talk. There's a few niggas I've been needing to talk to. I just been letting it linger for a little bit.

[B]

Do another one.

[A]

Do another one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who?

[D]

Whoever.

[B]

Who you mind?

[D]

You got a little mental list.

[A]

I have a list. I have a list. But on my list, because I'm so good hearted, I try not to really talk about people that I know for a fact hate themselves because there's nothing that I can say or do. The job is done already. Like, so I would, I normally wouldn't talk to Corey Holcomb. I don't talk to Jason Lee because I know that's how he heals. He heals from engagement and being in close proximity to celebrities. And I'm a celebrity, so there's no point in wasting time to do that. I can't make niggas hate they self more than they already do. Jason Lee has watched his brother die in his arms, his dad hates him because he sucked dick, and he's watched countless men go in and out of his mom's room as she was selling pussy to support him. There's nothing that Joe Budden can say to make Jason Lee hate himself any more than he already does. But prayers up to you. Another one. I'm praying for all you. I just had to get that out of the way. So sorry, but I mean, just a little light, little powpow let know. I did indeed hear what they had to say. And it's important because when you going back and forth with gay, really, like, like what do I look like? I can't go back and forth with a gay as an ally and advocate for that community, Offend some other people trying to dis one person that's not in my heart. And I don't, I don't really speak like this because I believe in the power of words and karmic retribution. But sometimes some of these niggas deserve it, man. So that's gonna be the end of that. And if it's not, then we'll get into that other tea out there about you being an Old Niners fan. You like Steve Young boy. That's right. That's right. Old Niners fan. I ain't talking football. What you think that tea don't come my way about the pay. The pay for play with the young boys out there. You know Steve Young. Y' all know Steve Young, One of the greatest finished quarterbacks of all time, right?

[B]

I don't watch football.

[A]

Ah, got it, guys.

[D]

Me either.

[A]

He was the. He was the quarterback right after Joe Montana, man. So, yeah, I mean, all is well out there, but peace and love. Peace and love.

[B]

Kidnap with peace and love.

[A]

Cause I'll be chilling, man. But I think. Cause I mean, I'll be chilling, that is. And you inspired me with the Brahmin night. So sometimes I gotta come in here and let know I'm standing on. I'm standing on business. I heard that you said we're not going back and forth. It's not going to be exchanged. But here's what I think about a few things. That's all.

[E]

Well, all right. Here at the Joe Button Podcast, we like to keep it positive. We like to keep it full of love and light.

[A]

All about high vibrations, high frequencies. Love and light, building and Lincoln. Come on, man, stop playing.

[D]

You built a Lincoln.

[A]

Shut up.

[E]

Well, that was.

[A]

Y' all want to do another one?

[D]

Yeah, we don't need another one.

[A]

All right. I'm just saying. Why?

[D]

That wasn't good. Why?

[A]

Why?

[C]

Yeah, congratulations on the Shannon Sharp interview.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

Watch.

[A]

Yeah, man, I was watching that. She looking at how mature I was. I said, I can't wait to get to work and be immature.

[B]

That was a good interview. I don't usually watch too much YouTube stuff for like the whole two and a half hours or three hours or whatever the interviews be. I watched the whole thing. It was really, really. It was a really.

[A]

Thank you, man. Thank you shout out to Shannon. I had a good time. I had a good time doing it. It was a blast.

[B]

I watched it.

[A]

They did the live premiere thing. I watched it. It was good.

[B]

He asked you a couple questions while I was curious to know which direction you would go, whether you go high or low, whether you go go. Whether you play in or not. And you.

[E]

You.

[B]

You kept it mature the whole time.

[C]

Oh, he was on his media bag.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You're in the media bag.

[A]

I told y' all I'd be being mature when I'm away from here.

[D]

Yeah, you said it.

[B]

You made up for it today, though. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You good?

[B]

You even that out?

[A]

You good, Quick. We good now on this pie? Yes.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Three. Three minutes ago. Maybe not even three.

[A]

All right, well, come on, let's Talk about something fun. Maybe later on I'll get back to my list. Do y' all have a list? No. No.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[D]

Nope.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Do you have a list of people that no matter what they say, you don't trust it?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Oh, mad people.

[B]

Yes. Yeah, for sure.

[D]

Couple family members on that goddamn list. But we talking about celebrities and too.

[B]

Yeah, celebrities. The easy one is obviously I don't the politics easy like anything Donald Trump's.

[D]

I don't care about true anything any politicians.

[B]

The last year I've become increasingly less trusting at Dame Dash. If Dame Dash said I'm starting I'm skeptical and I love Dame Dash. But after he became the. The CEO of Revolt, I started being like, all right, maybe. Maybe you're not a trustworthy name anymore.

[A]

Well. And he's not right. That CEO of Yes.

[B]

Wait, so I've been sending money investor money for nothing?

[A]

I don't know. I'm just clarifying that he's not that shit. Hold on.

[B]

Money back.

[A]

All right, don't answer on this.

[D]

I was about to say you got a revolt meeting.

[A]

No.

[D]

You had a revolt meeting.

[A]

No.

[B]

Ask him one more. You almost there? Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

These think I'd be having meetings with all types of motherfuckers.

[D]

I don't. You just said you had a groundbreaking earth shattering organization Orgasmic meeting yesterday.

[E]

Orgasm.

[A]

I know. So if I start saying them words. Don't think revolt.

[D]

You might be the new CEO of Revolt. Groundbreaking, life changing, earth shattering. I'm not gonna go to Revolt.

[A]

Here's a little nugget for you. I might be the new CEO of Revolt.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

But if I start using words like orgasmic. Not referring to that. It's not the title I'm referring to. Even though I am excited about 2026. That's why I feel jcole, yo. I'm so excited about all these positive things and literally it's absolutely nobody to talk to about is such a lonely disgusting feeling.

[B]

Must be tough you. No, I feel for you.

[D]

So. Yeah.

[A]

So.

[D]

So you. So you gave your list.

[A]

Who.

[D]

Who.

[A]

Who else?

[D]

Anybody else got list.

[B]

Who you? Who you here and be like, yeah.

[D]

No, I got a few and some of them. Sorry. Last time I said his name he called Joe Game.

[A]

But gang is on that list.

[D]

Ross is on that list. LeBron is on that list. Fat Joe is on that list. No disrespect. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, KH too. Kiki Palmer. Kiki Palmer's on that. I know y' all be trying to shield girl. Kiki Palmer is On that list. Blueface is on that list. Chan is on that list. Who else?

[D]

Yeah, I don't even listen. Kevin Gates, another one. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[E]

He been on that list since he.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Britney Renner and her new man, they both on the list.

[B]

I don't even know.

[D]

Boy, how you do nothing.

[B]

How you gonna put him on the list?

[A]

Sorry. Kisha.

[E]

He married Britney.

[A]

Kisha's on the list. I don't believe a word Kisha has to say. Sweet sweetie. Love you, baby. You're beautiful. Sorry. I don't believe a word. Well, she don't really say too many words, but even in the songs, I don't believe her. Sweetie, don't believe it. Sorry. Oh, who else? Who else? Bruno. See, it's not really a list for me. I don't believe most people.

[C]

I don't believe most people. Yeah, that's the problem.

[A]

Yeah, but some people, especially in entertainment. Especially in entertainment.

[D]

Why are you not gonna believe Bruno? Cause he owes some niggas some swanky.

[A]

Huh?

[D]

It's Copper Moms.

[A]

Mr. B. Beast.

[D]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[C]

None of the streamers.

[D]

Really, Joe, don't. With Mr. Beast.

[A]

Mr. Beast. I don't believe a word or a facial expression. He did a lot. He did a lot. Just nobody know yet. Mr. Beast did a lot.

[E]

How old is Mr.

[A]

Beast? Who else? I don't believe Orlando Brown.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't believe him at all. Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

That's what I'm. It's a good one. Yeah.

[A]

How about Soulja Boy or from Orlando, too?

[B]

He.

[D]

He be right a lot, though.

[A]

From Orlando. A dude from Orlando, I believe, is sketchy. You want women and older people to be from Orlando, but a. A dude from Orlando, that's like, in our age range. If he's from there. I don't believe one word he has to say.

[B]

That's fair.

[C]

So tour later.

[A]

It's regions that's like that in Vegas. I don't land in Vegas and be like, yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah. No, not at all. Not at all. The. When you land internationally in some of them spots where as soon as you land, they got every drink available to be made. Nah. Nope. Sorry. Ain't trusting y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

A lot of international shit.

[A]

Who else? You.

[C]

Who would.

[A]

You pyramid scheme niggas. Whoever was involved. Spectacular from Pretty Ricky. Not a single word that he has to say. Not one word. That's spectacular from. He could be a great guy. Sorry. I don't believe it. Raz from B2K. Sorry, Houston. Sorry.

[D]

No, I believe he don't really talk.

[A]

He just be with his baby.

[D]

Bow wow. Sorry. Another one. I'm not. That's another one on my list.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

It's a lot of these.

[C]

I don't believe any.

[A]

Anybody?

[D]

No. But some of these, the list is.

[C]

More of, like, who do you do believe in?

[A]

Just write it down anyway. You write it down. But, hey, y' all know I don't believe her. I don't believe absolute. I don't believe publicist, her stylist. I don't believe nobody that worked for her. They couldn't help it. But write it down so they don't.

[D]

Know who I'm talking about.

[A]

Let's see who Stefan.

[C]

Dig.

[A]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[D]

Who else we going.

[A]

Who else? James Harden. Anything he got to say is a lie. Talking about. Yeah, I left the Clippers because I wanted to help them rebuild and get draft picks. I know, buddy. You're a liar. I'm done. I'm done with you. I think we would be surprised to learn how. I think we would be shocked to learn how many lies come across our radar daily.

[B]

A lot. That's real.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

What percent you think of lies? You get a whole news half, 80% of the news. I'm going way higher than half b. Yeah, I'm 85.

[A]

You might be right. Be getting lies off. Be getting lies off.

[D]

That's why you wait.

[B]

Who up here gets the most lies off?

[A]

Hopefully me, Joe. Hopefully me. That's not well on air because it makes for great pod entertainment.

[E]

It.

[A]

The consensus answer would probably be me. You agree? In real life? Not so much. Not so much. In real life. It's probably a different answer.

[D]

Who's your in real life?

[A]

Somebody on that couch.

[B]

Who many people on the couch.

[A]

I know.

[D]

I want to know what the you talking about.

[A]

Pick one. You think there's a choice? I don't think there's a wrong answer. Anybody that's seated on that couch, I can put all my poker chips to the middle of the table. That's crazy. Niggas be lying. Yo, mother, listen, I made a mistake and was on my. I made a mistake and was on my baby's Instagram the other day, peeking through.

[C]

That was silly.

[A]

She posted a text exchange between that her son, the football star said. And it warmed my heart. But it didn't. It was a text exchange that said, mom, you playing games? He was asking to cook some food. And she was like, yeah, I'll get to it. He was like, yo, you playing around in 10 years, I'mma retire you. You be grateful and watch how you speak to me. And that warmed my heart because every young kid has that dream of retiring their mother. I had that same dream. I remember one. But you get some money, you run into some money. You want to buy your parents a house, you want to retire, you want.

[B]

Shout out to glory.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, fast forward.

[A]

You want to retire your mom.

[D]

But what though.

[A]

Keep going.

[E]

You better not.

[A]

So I hit dm.

[D]

You DM him her, okay?

[A]

Because he might think she got a job somewhere.

[D]

I knew that's what he was.

[E]

I knew it.

[D]

I knew that's where he was going.

[A]

Going. I can't. I can't DM him. I hear him and say, hey, quick question. Hey, retired from.

[C]

What the.

[A]

Am I in the Matrix? Yo, what do he think you do, baby? That's bad. Yes, that's my baby.

[D]

This is terrible, son.

[A]

Oh, he gonna retire me.

[E]

Holy.

[A]

Oh, my God, bro. Oh. What y' all want to talk about?

[C]

Let's talk about hand grenades.

[A]

I'm an hour.

[D]

Get out of here.

[A]

Wait. That bad? Oh, I love you, baby.

[D]

That's funny.

[A]

Funny hair grenades.

[D]

But I mean, what do we think?

[A]

She don't any Post Office Mona like. Anyway, Russell, if you're unfamiliar with LaRussell, the Russell is, or he was the independent actor King Indy. Huh?

[D]

King Indy. Yeah.

[A]

King Indy out there in la. Really good guy. Good spirited. Was championing independence and kind of taking his fans and audience along the journey of what it looks like to truly be independent. He was giving out jewels, he was giving out knowledge. And he was being very transparent about some of the deals that were coming across the table. He was like, yo, this is why I wouldn't accept this deal as an independent. Why would I? Yada, yada, yada, yada. He even did that for Roc Nation. He said he got a clip out there that said, Roc Nation sent me a contract.

[D]

It said xyz.

[A]

I would never do such a thing. Recently, he's been selling his project for $1,000 and up. Kyrie Irving purchased one for 11,000. Somebody else purchased one for however many thousand. And he was running a campaign that said, hey, y', all, I'm trying to sell 100,000 copies independently of my new project in 30 days. I thought that was the fly shit ever. He turns right around in this same campaign and announces that he is signed to Roc Nation, which was met with mixed reviews because of. Because of what he has stood on for so long. So I'm asking you guys, how y' all feel about it?

[C]

Is it Roc Nation just distribution.

[B]

Yeah, I was gonna say. Does that mean he's not now.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Not now. Remember, Roc Nation is everything now.

[C]

Oh, true.

[B]

Okay, so just so I clarify a question. So by signing Roc Nation, you are by definition no longer independent.

[A]

I don't want.

[D]

This is where we get into that.

[A]

Murky water of what's independent versus what is not.

[D]

So.

[A]

And. And I think there's a world where he could be partnered with Roc Nation and still be independent.

[D]

Let me just think what the.

[A]

Let me just make. I think what some of the fans are saying is the optic of it. And even if this deal is whatever you say, it looks and feels like it's undermining the road that we've been on with you and everything that you've stood for. Even if you still independent now. Now it's tougher to believe. It's tougher to believe you when you say, I'm trying to sell 100,000 copies of my album in 30 days. Because there's been. For over 10 years now, there's been labels that have done the inorganic thing by trying to make it look organic. Yeah. So it's just tougher to believe. I get that now. And honestly, I mean, if you're asking me my opinion, which no one has.

[D]

Why'd you do that?

[A]

Why'd you do that?

[D]

I might get an answer.

[B]

Why did you do that as a fan?

[A]

Why? Mute up. Why?

[E]

Why?

[A]

Why? I'm not saying there's not an answer to that.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I'm saying when people ask the why, it will appear that you have had. It looks to me. I'll just talk to me. As a casual fan. It looks like you have had so much success independently as a brand new act out there grinding and preaching the good word. You've done this and I can't name one of your songs.

[C]

True.

[D]

That's part of why I.

[A]

That's part of the not why. See, and that's. And that's. And that's. It's. It's two people looking at the same thing, pulling different opinions. I totally get the mindset of, hey, I would like some help. I'm tired of spending out of pocket. I'm tired of being alone. I would like some of my songs to be heard and I get all of that. But if you've had so much success without a hits song, why would you do it now?

[D]

What is so much success? Your idea of what so much success is. And maybe what he wants success for himself could be two totally different things. He could have literally I've seen people do this where I've gotten as far as I can on my own to what they believe. I hit the ceiling. And now to get to that next level, I need some that I can't get.

[C]

I can, I can speak.

[A]

Hold on, let me for a little bit. Then you can't ask me can I go first.

[D]

Okay, I agree with what he's saying. But if you stood on a platform of the label, the label, the label and you telling all these little under you that label, that label, that label, then for you to now go jump ship and go sign with the same label that you dis. He said, yo, Roc Nation is some. They offered me a predatory deal. I won't never with them. So now we for you to go sign the Roc Nation, you basically going against everything you stood for. You betraying the little that could have potentially signed a deal. And you, you fought for them not to sign a deal. Now two things with that. Maybe they could have given you a predatory deal initially.

[C]

And now they did.

[D]

And now they did. Because now he's saying. Or I could have grinded so hard independently that I've gained a little bit more leverage to now have a different conversation with them. Hold on, let me just. He did come come out to say in this deal, he owns all his masters, he owns all his publishing.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So in that sense, this is where to answer your question mark that what is independent versus what isn't independent. A lot of people stand on the side of if I own everything, if I own my masters, I own my publishing, I own all my. I'm independent now. Other people feel like, yeah, but you're not independent because yeah, you have a machine. You actually were able to sign to a machine.

[B]

I get, get that.

[A]

And that's always murky because there are ways to incentivize a business partnership while retaining ownership. Like there's plenty of ways for that for that to happen. So I get that. I get that argument. What I'm saying is this. Nobody can feel like they've taken it as far as they could take it if we don't know a song that'll never be be true.

[D]

And can I say but I'm not getting no. But I'm not getting no younger that I've been doing this for how many years? And, and, and, and my plan isn't.

[A]

You cannot surmise that you've taken it as far as you can take it if we don't know a song.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

That will always be true.

[D]

That's true.

[A]

And for Roc Nation or any company up for that matter to come back to you knowing that fact well, what do they see?

[D]

Oh, yeah, they see.

[A]

What do they see? And why do they see it so early? See, because I think this is early. If he were to do this in three to five years.

[D]

How long has he been active?

[A]

I think the tone is different.

[D]

How long has he been active? I'm not familiar with like his start.

[A]

I don't know. I'm not sure. He's been around a few years.

[C]

It's been a little bit.

[A]

He's been around. He's been around a few years. But no matter how long you've been around, if you are a musician, independent or not independent, you know what the name of the game is. Get a song that somebody know.

[C]

2018 was his first, at least on Apple Music.

[D]

Oh, that's early.

[E]

This is nine years. Can I, can I add something?

[A]

Fell also to your real. I'm sorry, Mona. To your success point. Right? Like, we can't speak to what that is because I don't know what his definition of success is versus mine is. Is his to tell as an independent. When you get to the point, the point where you are selling your music for when Nipsey sold his for $100 and everybody said he was crazy, somebody else did it too. But when you get to the point where you're able to sell your music for a thousand dollars and celebrities are not only pulling up to purchase it, but they're posting about it and getting an active campaign for you going. I mean, that wouldn't be the time that I would be signing anywhere. Anywhere.

[D]

But you know what's funny? Anywhere you mentioned Nip. And he did it after doing the proud to pay campaign with Crenshaw for the $100 tape, doubling back with mailbox money for the thousand dollar tape, guess what he goes and does, you guessed it, signs a licensing deal with Atlantic for Victory Lap and that got that album. Now, people who didn't know Nip didn't know a song of Nips, his core fan base. We knew I copped a hundred dollar joint. But now once you put your debut album out, you get a different level of recognition. And he still kept and owned everything.

[A]

Well, this is why I. So for me, that's a false parallel. And it's the reason why I say in three to five years, if the Russell did that, then I don't have anything to say. Speaking only for myself, I knew plenty of Nipsey Hussle songs by the time he did that. Deal. Plenty of them saying, you just saying.

[D]

This early because you don't know any LaRussell music yet.

[A]

It's early.

[D]

Which means he didn't get as far as he could have possibly.

[A]

That's all I'm saying.

[D]

I'm saying unless he feels that though he could. You can't tell.

[B]

I can't. The fact that y' all still don't know my. I want somebody to help me just.

[C]

Looks like a marketing deal. This looks no different to me than hiring a marketing company as an independent. If he's still retaining ownership of his masters in his publishing, then this is no different than hiring a marketing.

[D]

What's the difference between what you would.

[C]

Do as an independent artist? I could also speak as someone who has released music independently. That gets exhausting having to do all that label. He might want to just rap fake.

[B]

Bam.

[D]

He might have just saw what Roc Nation did with the clips. Or that as a completely. As independent. Took our album to you for. License it to y' all for just distribution. And y' all got me everywhere in the world.

[C]

That would be a false.

[B]

I'm just.

[D]

I'm just saying. Because they had some other cachet involved as well. But I'm just saying, if I'm watch. If I'm watching this company and the rollout that they had and the movement that they had as. Hey, I just licensed the music to y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

They still own all that. Okay, well, maybe let me try it this way, because the way that I've been trying it got me here. I might want to try something different also.

[A]

I. I push back with. If. If you just want to rap, then you don't want to be independent.

[D]

And I was going, bro.

[A]

Independent means you have a say in all facets of this, and you are responsible for it all. It's not. I just want to rap. If you just want to rap, then. Then I don't have nothing to say to you. But if you. Independent rapping is probably the. It's not the first, second, or third thing that you need to be paying attention to. So, I mean, it just gets tricky. Clearly, I think he did what he wanted to do, so I'm happy, fam. Yeah.

[D]

And he still got ownership, so I'm happy.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

It's Park's fault.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not trying to talk like, clearly he did what he wanted to do, so I'm not looking down on that. But if it were me, and I do understand some of the. Some of the criticism that comes along with what's going On Mona, what's up?

[E]

What I was gonna say was I don't get why like, like y'. All, like, just because that he shared with. With everybody. Like how nasty the deals that he was being offered and. And why did that give anybody idea that he wouldn't sign or. That wasn't a goal. I feel like the whole time he always took meetings and he talked about it, but he shared things. Just like I could remember him doing. Going to go do a freestyle, whether it was flex or off the radar. And they were late and they were treating him funny. He left and he told everybody like, nobody treats me like cuz they got this big thing. You know what I mean? I feel like y' all confusing the fact that he shared it. Even DOG and Roc Nation out with.

[A]

With.

[E]

He would never. This never was the goal. I think he was always trying to like, sell himself to get the best kind of deal. You talking about he owns shit. That's a pretty good situation. So it's like that's where I think LaRusso, my nigga came on the podcast. I've fucked with him a couple times, went to la, fucked with him. It's like, I don't think that that was ever not really the mission. I think he would have did it either way, but I think it was always like, you know what I mean? To get a good deal was always the goal.

[D]

I don't want to sound a predatory deal.

[A]

Some people feel like listening to him, it seemed like he championed and understood the upside in remaining independent for a little longer than what has been displayed. And I totally understand that and agree and. And agree with it.

[C]

I could see him alienating some of his fan base. They were there for the journey.

[A]

The journey was be robbing themselves of the journey because it's tough. The journey as an onlooker is the fun part to watch. It's fun to watch. You go from the basement to the studio with Wiz Khalifa, to getting your first car to having your first show. It's like having a kid and waiting for the first words and the first steps. So you can't just expedite that. And now we in pre K. I mean, you're gonna lose people that's there for the story or.

[D]

I got the to the point where, again, man, I don't want to.

[A]

He don't have the songs to say that. He don't have the songs to say that.

[D]

But whatever I got the deal that they offered me ain't this deal. So something changed. Y' all offered me a Bad deal, a predatory deal. I came online and talked about it and said, yo, they trying to rap, they trying to me over here with this deal. Blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I would never do this. Something happened between that, that's obvious and this.

[B]

I just assume they came to where.

[D]

Now I have what's to me a favorable deal.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Where I own my. Y' all don't own nothing. Y' all don't got nothing. Y' all are just distributing.

[A]

I'll give you a prime example. And a lot of our off air talk didn't make it because we was having fun off air. On the last spot, the Russell, Jay Z. Getting the Russell to perform in the parking lot of the super bowl is a story that you, you champion to the heavens when he's independent.

[D]

True. Yeah, a thousand percent.

[A]

That same story don't look so much the same. Not independent, right? Answer me.

[D]

No, I don't look the same.

[A]

Not at all.

[D]

It doesn't look the same.

[A]

And if you know where close to the same. But actually you on that very same move if you are assigned to Roc Nation and now you buy the subrette stand by D34 in the parking lot section.

[D]

Well, one of that is not going to be that. I get what you said, I get the, the joke aspect of it. But at the same token, if I'm the Russell, I don't even get to be a part of none of this if I wasn't here. Now we don't know what the, the, the super bowl is an all day event for, for. It's, it's some early, some pregame, it's some early, it's post game. The Super Bowls are all weekend. No, I'm not missing your point. I'm looking at it from his point of view because if it makes sense to him, you, yo, I might not have been able to do this without getting.

[A]

I understand that. I understand that. That's him.

[D]

It's why he signed the deal.

[A]

I'm saying that if he were independent and found a target parking lot to perform in, the story is gonna be greater than this.

[D]

My point is different than this. Yo, you've been for years and I'm not insulting a gentleman. You've been for years.

[A]

Yeah, we fuck with him up here, we fuck with who he is and.

[D]

What he doing and what he's preaching, a message of independence and everything that you keep saying is yo, he couldn't do, do this or he felt like he couldn't do this. And that's the same thing with the that signed to the label from the rip, they feel like they can't do their own marketing, which might be exhausting. To your point, they feel like they might can't get my songs played around the world because I can't go around and pitch my to all of the program directors nationwide. But that's a part of the struggle of being independent. So when you tell these little kids, yo, you don't need that. You don't need that. You don't need that, you basically contradicting yourself, yourself by saying, now I' ma tap out because it was too difficult.

[B]

As a fan, I think if you got a different explanation, he owes it to us, like, even starting to say, like, I own my own masters. I own my. Like, as a fan who went along for that ride, I need you to tell me why you made that choice. If I've been riding with you. And now it feels like a contradiction.

[D]

And that sound. And like I said to me, that sound because I own all my shit still technically, I'm independent.

[B]

But he needs to say more.

[C]

Just did some quick math. That brother's got 40 albums on this Apple albums list.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

After 40 albums, he has.

[B]

If I make 40 albums and you don't know no songs, it might be time.

[A]

That didn't. That didn't help things for me.

[D]

That didn't help things for me. If I made 40 albums independently without y', all, y' all could suck my dick. Now.

[A]

I ain't going to hold you. That almost made it worse for me.

[D]

At the end of the.

[B]

I'm like, if I got 40 and y' all don't know me, I'm.

[C]

I need some help.

[B]

No, give me some help.

[D]

Something I'm doing ain't working.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[D]

That's not true, bro. I guess. I guess it depends on what level is true.

[A]

And you should be able to troubleshoot. Or you should. You should. If you're championing independent, you should want to troubleshoot that before you get to.

[D]

I'm at album 40. I've been troubleshooting 40 albums.

[A]

Stop it. Yo. Stop it. We.

[D]

We take. And I'm at the same spot.

[A]

That's his fault.

[D]

He's not. Not at the same spot, though, because these.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[D]

These from Cal and these from California. Be clear. They might not have one song playing on the East Coast. These could tour California all year long and make $5 million. So don't say he had the spot of a starving young artist that might only be doing 20, 30 grand. That LA Russell and them it's a few artists from LA. Them, I mean from Cali, period, not just LA, that are making mad money, bro, that we've never heard of. And that's not in a rotation on power 105 and hot 97. That's a fact. That don't mean that they didn't make it or they did. They not doing these is.

[B]

He want something different.

[E]

The Russell don't make drug dealer music hoes. He don't make us a lot of positive. That is not always the big hit song type of music anyway. It's like that kind of niche thing. It's like positive Russell.

[A]

That's the first thing for a big hit from him. We looking for current. We're looking for currency.

[B]

We don't know what he might want the big hit. We don't know what he wants after 40 albums he wanted. Let him have it.

[A]

I'm done with y'. All.

[B]

I'm with you. But I'm just saying, like, he may want something different.

[A]

One thing I would like to. Would like to know is who was managing you for 40 albums? Like, we just up here talking, sounding stupid. Now. If you independent and you did 40 albums and this is where you land, then by all means, cool. But that would tell me, all right, Changes I can make there changes I can make 40 albums and. And the world don't know nothing yet. Stop it. Yo, stop it. We change because be talking now. But. But. But clearly he wanted to do that. And I'm sure HOV and Rock Nation again, Rock Nation is a all in one hub now. It's management, it's distribution, it's the label, it's the streaming, it's the live streaming, it's the tour ring. It's. It's the all in one. So maybe you want to help it all. I'm not judging him. He's happy, I'm happy. And I think podcasters, we get too caught up in what. Would I have done it? Would I not have done it? Everybody got to live their life.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The way that they see fit from this couch. I would have done that. Yeah, but what do I know? What else, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else? I'm having a good time. Y' all want me go back to my list?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Do y' all got list?

[D]

No, we don't need your list.

[A]

All right, so what else we need? What else we need? What else is important?

[B]

Everybody can rest easy today. I know y' all worried. They found Aaron Hall.

[E]

They did.

[C]

They did I didn't know he was lost.

[D]

The young lady was trying to serve Aaron hall for over a year, and nobody knew where Aaron hall was.

[B]

He fell off the earth.

[D]

He literally disappeared. They could not find him at all. Like, had multiple addresses on the East Coast, west coast, nothing. They found them in a little. Multiple motel in Atlanta, Alpharetta.

[C]

A motel?

[B]

A motel in Alpharetta, Georgia.

[C]

That's.

[D]

Excuse me, not Atlanta.

[B]

Yes. He was in the sticks.

[D]

He was out.

[B]

It's civil suits for, like, sexual misconduct, sexual assault, I think, specifically. Yeah. So he was. He was under the radar.

[A]

So.

[B]

And they finally served him. Slipped them papers right under the door. After he opened the door and slammed it in the face.

[D]

Yeah, I'm here to serve papers for Aaron Hall. What's that? They threw it in there and slammed the door.

[B]

Yeah, so.

[A]

Well, I'm super glad that somebody found Aaron hall. If it was somebody I know that was not looking for Aaron Hall. You guessed it. It was Teddy Riley. Teddy Riley. I've been watching a couple. Teddy Riley's supposed to come up here soon, but I've been watching some interviews that he been doing. And Sway asked him straight up, like, listen, man, I see guys going back on tour. Teddy Riley said, no, guys dead. Them niggas don't fuck with me, and I don't fuck with them. It's just new guys, some niggas. Guys, guys. My guys. It's me and two of my guys, my guys going on tour. That's how you know you ill, boy. When you could just pick up two niggas and keep up the same ratings.

[C]

Going out as guys.

[D]

Hold up.

[A]

Teddy Riley is going on out with two new people as guy as guys on tour. And that's how you just know Teddy Riley is the man when you park. Mute up for a minute. Yeah, shut the up. When you can pick up two that don't nobody know and still keep the same level and rate of success that you had previously, you know that person's the man. Come on, y'. All. You know Teddy Rock. Come on, right?

[B]

Yeah. That's a fact.

[D]

Oh, you.

[A]

I don't like that. You be getting my jokes too early. Let. Let my. But let my bake a little bit first.

[D]

I know you, son. I know your. You.

[A]

Anyway, shout out to sorry. And the guys and the guys and the guys.

[D]

Guys is guys.

[A]

Guys and all guys. What else is important to y'?

[E]

All?

[A]

What else are y' all passionate about? I think we kicking ass this far. Come on, February. We not playing.

[D]

No, we ain't playing.

[A]

February, we ain't playing no games, man. Stop playing with us. What else do y' all feel passionate about or needs our attention?

[B]

It's a little sad.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

But since we talk about missing people, I do wanna mention Savannah Guthrie's mother in law.

[A]

Nancy.

[B]

Nancy. She was missing. She's still missing. But there's now a ransom note. And they're trying to figure out how to navigate that.

[A]

And when we say ransom note. Cause you're hearing this today, we mean yesterday. There was a ransom note that said, if you do not get us however many million in Bitcoin by 5pm Something will be done. 1:47am Sunday, the doorbell camera was disconnected. At 2:12am A camera detects motion, but no video is recorded. At 2:28am pacemaker stop syncing with cell phone. I would be terrified at that point.

[D]

Yeah, that.

[A]

Yeah. And at. Damn. I can't see this. Last time it says. I want to say that's 1203 or 23pm reported missing after not showing up at church. So that has been the string of events. This is disturbing. Yeah, it is. It is.

[B]

It's terrifying, man.

[A]

They talking about the word on the curb. Police are saying there are no suspects. The Internet is saying there's one suspect. I won't say because it's irresponsible without any proof or. But they're saying is the brother in law. That's what the Internet is saying. Allegedly. There's no facts supporting this. Again, police are saying there are no suspects. But on the news, they like dog. If it's a kidnapping, it's probably a family member. How do y' all feel about that? Probably.

[D]

So somebody that know y' all or somebody that's close to somebody that got some personal information.

[B]

Yeah. Because if you're a kidnap, if you're like an international kidnapper, you're not targeting Savannah Guthrie's mother in law. That wouldn't be like where you'd go. This feels personal.

[A]

Yeah, this feels. And then asking for bitcoin, Right. Seems smart. Smart.

[B]

That's the definitely the thing you want when you kidnap people.

[A]

I don't get that. What y' all saying? Tell me.

[D]

Because the digital currency is really, really hard to track. And you can move it around digitally as opposed to.

[B]

Yeah, cash is tougher.

[A]

Okay, I understand that. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense.

[C]

It's encrypted. It's literally the point. So that part makes sense. I don't understand.

[A]

I'm with Mark.

[C]

Why would you target this person fairly? Yeah. This person is God.

[A]

Forbid if any of you guys were in this situation. Let me take it off y' all and just speak for me. If it were me, this bitcoin would have been out of my account 20 minutes after. 10 minutes after I got this message. Are y' all the type to immediately pay like me, or would you be trying to let the police do something.

[B]

Specifically for our mother in laws?

[A]

The who matters is her mother. It's not her mother in law.

[D]

Oh, I thought.

[A]

They suspect. It's her brother in law.

[D]

Got it.

[B]

Gotcha. Okay.

[A]

The police don't.

[B]

Yeah. I thought it was the mother I saw.

[A]

No, her mother, Nancy.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. Yeah.

[B]

There's no amount that I wouldn't pay immediately.

[D]

But you wouldn't just send the money asap. That's not true. Because you have no guarantees at that point. Like, if I just send the money, that don't mean I'm gonna get my mom back. That don't mean that. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's still gotta be some, like, coordinated.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, but I would still be sending it to se. I would have the police or whoever is behind me.

[D]

I'd be on it alert.

[A]

But I'm sending that to see what.

[D]

Happened for your mother, for moms, the house, the kids, the dog, everything. I'm just saying it's still not gonna be a immediate thing because there's still no guarantees once you send the money. That.

[A]

That. Well, I'll be by the phone in case a text comes from point.

[D]

Yeah, Give me proof of life. Let me. You know all of that.

[A]

You got it, big dog.

[D]

It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare, bro.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I came in the mask.

[A]

It really is.

[D]

It's a nightmare. And just the fact that you read the timeline, you know, like the camera, all of that. Somebody got to know that. How?

[A]

The pacemaker.

[D]

Somebody knows.

[A]

Somebody cut off the pacemaker. Sink into the.

[D]

That's not Joe Schmo. The crook. That's not Joe Schm.

[A]

I don't think so either.

[D]

Somebody that know y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

That somebody been there. That's. That's.

[B]

It's high level.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, this is a very serious matter. Prayer. Prayers are going out to the Guthrie family, Savannah, and then Nancy. We definitely are praying that you are alive and well and all is good indeed. You know what this plan reeks of? You guessed it. A loser sibling. I mean, a loser sibling. Hey, and even if it don't. And even if it don't, hey, you know who we not rushing to Contact. When mom gets kidnapped, the loser sibling. The loser. You can't help. I'll hit you when mom get back. When mom is in store.

[D]

We got it. We got it.

[A]

We got it. We found her.

[D]

We got it.

[A]

We found her.

[D]

We got it.

[A]

What do you say, big mom?

[D]

What do you do if the loser.

[B]

Sibling is the one that goes missing? How much bitcoin were you putting out?

[A]

Well, I'm not putting out anything. Mom gonna have to go on a retirement fund. Damn.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Well, I'm putting out something. I'll put out something. If the rest of the family tried to scrape it together and couldn't, they were short a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Go out to 20.

[D]

All right. What if they got nothing? They scraped.

[A]

Oh, then they shouldn't have got lost. Hey, kidnappers went that far.

[D]

Y' all got the wrong one. We thought this crazy.

[A]

And anyway, if the loser sibling get kidnapped, you've been a loser long enough in your life to figure out an escape.

[D]

They know how to get away to.

[A]

Get out of there. You should be resourceful as a loser. Little League glue, put a rope, nigga, get the up out of there. Yo, again, this is all for jokes. I don't want to do trigger any of the loser siblings that are listening out there. Cuz your listen is important too. I guess they don't know they the loser anyway.

[D]

Some of them.

[A]

Some of them.

[B]

They might.

[A]

Some of them do by now.

[D]

Some know.

[A]

Some of them do by now. You know the problem that. See, that's the thing about age. Age sometimes can act as a mirror at like you 56, no shoelaces on the twin bed. On the twin bed pork and beans. Yeah, twin bed mice is in there. You know what I mean? You got the poor mice traps. You ain't even got the good that's gonna catch a mouse. You got the with a mouse walking over it. Yo, the mouse kick that out of their boo mouth over there.

[D]

Playing double Dutch. Yo, you left ham today. Oh, flip your little bum ass trap your trap.

[A]

I went to shop, right? Got the little broke mousetraps and put some cheese on. The mouse ate the cheese and stared at me too. Joe, this ain't gonna work. Joe, you got more than this.

[D]

Get sharp next time.

[A]

Fucking Monterey Jack. You bitch ass nigga.

[D]

Nobody want America and you rich.

[A]

Sure enough. All right, let's see. We did La Russell, we did Savannah, we did Glorilla, we did lma, we did Tatum, we did Cole. What else needs our attention? Anything. Anything happening in you guys life that y' all are passionate about that. We need to share. Come on, give it to me.

[B]

I'm a little frustrated.

[A]

There we go. Let's go, Mark. Let's go, Mark.

[B]

Y' all see I put Kevin James on board. I'm sending this to you now, park, so you could, you could see it, man.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You know, I like to organize and do some activism to support my people.

[A]

Oh, I thought Kevin James used to play for the Kings. That's Kevin Martin.

[D]

I thought Kevin James was a comedian.

[C]

Yeah, I thought I was the comedian.

[D]

Comedian.

[B]

No. Kevin James was and is a, I guess the president of Morris Brown College. And he is a. He's somebody who helped really build the university back up or the college back up, you know, after being had like 10 students at one point, literally got his accreditation back, fought, did all this stuff. Then he got randomly, it seemed, fired as president. And every black journalist, every black activist came out and said, we need to give this man his job back. This is wrong. The board should not have done what they did. They have no explanation. We're going to lawsuit, we're going to pick it, we're going to rally to Georgia.

[D]

Did they ever say what he got fired for?

[B]

No, they said that was his whole point, was I did nothing wrong and I've been fired without cause.

[D]

Okay, go ahead.

[B]

And some people said there's a reason, but we don't want to say. And they're like, that's wrong too. You can't just fire a cause.

[D]

You can't do that without a reason.

[B]

And so we fought and we got him his job back. Man. Salute to the black community.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

And then a day after or a week after he got his job back, this clip comes out.

[D]

You know, even though I may want.

[A]

To, you know, I got to look.

[D]

At the big picture. Like, okay, if I bring Jess to Atlanta to come her mentor and hire.

[A]

Her, I thought the other day that.

[D]

I might even have you as my executive assistant.

[A]

Right? Uhoh. Oh, no. You know, if I give you the dick, then you might, you might not be able to. To handle it. So.

[E]

Oh, he working.

[C]

That's on a zoom call.

[B]

So. Yeah, right. It's a FaceTime. I think there's multiple people on this. I think the bottom is the people. That's like a clip from Smile show. Okay. But yes, it was a FaceTime that he had with this woman who he was apparently recruiting as his something or other executive assistant.

[A]

He didn't even practice that line enough in the bathroom mirror. Like, he sound like he was Rushing it out, like, just trying to get it out right.

[D]

He said he was unsure about n the sound cocky to me. Paul's like, yo, dog, I'm used to doing this.

[A]

Me too.

[D]

If I give you the dick M, you ain't. You know, I mean, you ain't going to be the handle this thing.

[A]

See, he didn't sound like. Yeah, he didn't say it like.

[B]

You sound like a vet when you say you like, he got the OG confidence. I'm just saying, like, he ain't sound like that. He sound like he was workshopping that.

[D]

No, honestly, not to me.

[E]

He sound.

[A]

He said it like. He said it like, the job ain't paying too much. Like it's gonna take some extra convincing.

[E]

So what happened after that?

[B]

He sound like. He definitely live in Atlanta.

[E]

Huh. So what's next?

[A]

Oh, my God. You an idiot, bro.

[B]

You're saying he has an accent? That's all I'm saying. That's all I meant.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

A little Southern twang.

[E]

So does he lose the job again because he freaky?

[B]

I don't know. We're gonna find out. But the Internet is very upset. Everybody's like, we put our on the line for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And if this leaking, you know, it's other going on.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[D]

It'll all be the first time he did that.

[B]

Did something.

[D]

He was too comfortable on the phone. Yeah.

[E]

Is he an older guy?

[B]

No, he's probably me and his age.

[A]

Okay, that's so. Wait, hold up. Wait, you.

[E]

It's old.

[A]

Ish. Wait, you for. Y' all dead ass.

[B]

What you say?

[A]

Y' all dead ass.

[D]

He is the what? The dean.

[B]

President of a university.

[D]

Of a university.

[A]

No, no, I got that.

[D]

Hey, my nigga, you be acting like you 36.

[A]

For real, bro.

[D]

You 45. Mark's 47.

[B]

We in the same boat. We would've been in high school together if you had went.

[A]

Not really.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We're not really in the same boat.

[B]

I'm middle. I'm mid-40s.

[A]

What are you. What I'm telling you is, in an alternate universe, if we both were single and I had to hook up with two beautiful joints, when I told short friend about you, I would say, my older friend. Oh. And when I told shorty about you, Antoine, I would say, yes, yes. He's older. They would ask.

[D]

They would.

[A]

They would tell them.

[D]

They wouldn't. Cuz when I show up, they're going to be like, hold up.

[B]

Who older?

[A]

That's before. Which one?

[B]

Older.

[A]

Look, he showed up. I'm saying before you show up, they would know and I would have hated. Yes, he's older.

[B]

He's older. I have an older friend.

[D]

Hey, I have an older friend.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

What y. These. These tight to date an older friend.

[D]

I'm not. I'm.

[A]

You are the older friend.

[D]

No, I'm not tight, though. No, he said older gentleman and you like.

[A]

Oh, wait, wait.

[D]

Like, you just 36. Like you a spring chicken.

[A]

You're old spring chicken.

[B]

Your back hurt when you get off that couch. You are age.

[A]

No, don't.

[D]

My daughter back with her getting off this couch.

[A]

She's uncomfortable. You know what? Let's not. Let's not real quick, cuz. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to deter us from such a great conversation. We know how old everyone here is physically. Yo, how old do you think? No, it's not. I'm asking a question. Go ahead. How old do you think you brothers are? Just in spirit. Like, if some joints come around and want some shots of 1942 and yeah, I mean, oh, I'm watching some good music playing at a fucking spoken word joint for you, a brothel for you, massage parlor. Come on. Spoken bird. Hey, spoken word and spoken bird. How old do y' all think y' all are? In spirit. This ain't man to take a long time.

[B]

I'm probably.

[D]

I'm.

[B]

I'm mid-50s. In. In spirit right now. I admit it. I'm washed.

[A]

See, that's where I went at. I'm way more immature than y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

That's not true.

[A]

It's not true that I'm more immature than on screen?

[C]

No, he's more immature than us.

[D]

That's not true.

[C]

Then who.

[D]

You've never seen me really outside, so stop caping.

[C]

That's not.

[A]

Or can you go outside anyway more? We should. We should see you sometime. Yeah, don't just let Troy see you.

[D]

I don't got no money for the strippers, so you can't see me outside.

[A]

And Troy saying, sound like he had a little beef with me, too. You be talking to Troy about me? Troy was aggressive when he. What's up? What's up? I thought about it when I went home.

[D]

You always censor.

[A]

You censor yourself. It's cool, bro.

[D]

And if I got smoke with you, bro. What I'm saying is outside niggas is silly. Niggas is playful. You don't even talk to people outside.

[B]

You walk through them.

[A]

That's a fact.

[B]

What are you talking about?

[A]

I don't Talk to people.

[D]

Where's the playful Joe? Outside.

[A]

Remember when we was all out at. At the old spot to close down and I was with my girl and you was seated right next to me and Rachel was there and then you sent me the text like, yo, look at that bad right there. And then my girl had seen the text and that ruined the name.

[D]

You lying.

[A]

This thing is a liar, bro. Yo, this thing is a liar.

[D]

Arguing. It's arguing time.

[B]

14 months. I heard the story like three different ways in the last 14 months, man.

[A]

It's all true.

[B]

Y' all get closer and closer together. End of the bar.

[D]

It's cool.

[A]

Y' all know what's funny too. I tried to sneak and look at the text. You still seen that?

[C]

You're not the slickest, cuz.

[A]

I know his.

[D]

I know he's sending me something.

[A]

My girl can. I was like, that privacy screen ain't do nothing. Oh, no. For real. What is important on this list that we need to get to. We did Glorilla. Oh, we do have to say shout out to Kid.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Shout out to Kid from Kid Can Play. Who. Who's recently went. Went viral for disclosing some of his health conditions that he's been having. Let me try to find it. Christopher Kid Reed, half of the hip hop duo Kid and Play, had life saving heart surgery last year after being diagnosed with congestive heart failure. He says, and I quote, over the last year or so, maybe just starting feeling normal, feeling more fatigued than before, shortness of breath, sleeping more than normal. I think sometimes you chalk it up to, I'm getting older, the road is harsh, doing the old kickstep. A lot of people are walking around with heart disease because they don't go to the doctor. And you know, traditionally people of color, we don't go Go.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

We don't go for a lot of reasons. Sometimes we don't go because we don't have insurance. A lot of times we don't go because we don't want the bad news or we're too busy just hustling, trying to make it from day to day. And we feel we don't have time or we'll get over it. Well, you might not. So I'm urging all of my fans, all of your loved ones to get checked out, please. And that is from Christopher Reed, Kid from Kid and Play. Kid, if you're listening to this, if anybody out there is listening that knows Kid, please let them know I love you. Thank you. Thank you for your message. We appreciate it and we needed that really important message. Some of the greats that we've lost have echoed the same things in some of their final days. We make a lot of A's jokes up here, but checking on your health is really, really, really important. So shout out to kid for just spreading that message. Important.

[D]

Get checked out, man. Indeed. It's all right. We'll do it.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Cost, though.

[A]

You got a monologue for us? You got a monologue? Oh, I didn't want to hear nothing from me.

[E]

This whole time. I was sitting.

[D]

Nah, nah, we want to hear it.

[E]

And I don't even know exactly what the. I'm on.

[D]

What finesse did.

[E]

No, we not turn into.

[D]

What's this quote?

[E]

It was turned into obsession. I'll text you about it. I'll text you about.

[A]

Oh, man. Really good show. Really good show indeed. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, brothers. Nine hundreds off to an amazing star. That's the other thing about J. Cole. It was some point in the album where he tried to make us scream out.

[D]

I got.

[A]

I'm a mulatto. I'm a mulatto. I'm a mulatto. Seriously, what song was that?

[C]

I don't know how I missed that one.

[A]

Yeah, it was in there. We started screaming, I'm a mulatto. I'm a mulatto.

[D]

I'm a mulatto.

[A]

I gotta wipe my. I'm a mulatto. It's like, yo, dog, some of this. You.

[B]

Some of this.

[C]

I do remember a bar, by the way.

[A]

Bomb. But I don't remember. No, there was a chance. There was a chant. There was a I'm a mulatto chant. Imani.

[D]

Man, y. Y' all ain't even understand the symbolism. You know, Cole was rapping from different perspective. He was logic.

[C]

Wait.

[E]

We all lucky our kids sing.

[A]

I can't rap.

[D]

Telling you, I wish I could rap.

[A]

Yo, if I could sing, what then? Then what?

[C]

He could.

[A]

What would happen? If you could sing, what. What would you say?

[C]

Chris Brown before Chris Brown, he say he could dance, too?

[D]

Just end it, Joe. The baddies just be hating women.

[A]

So delusional. Yours not.

[C]

He can do flips, actually, and still.

[A]

Ain'T done a back flip. Delusional, man. We can't get no type of flip from this. Listen, man, hopefully y' all have enjoyed. Enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios, Eriva Dirti. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long goodbye or simple head novel suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. Yeah, y' all too young, man. Y' all too young to know what's going on right now. Nah, my older brothers know what's going on. My older brothers know what's going on. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. I want to say, hey, I gotta let this rock for a little bit, y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

I'm sorry. I know we want to go home. I gotta let this go for a little bit. I mean, word to moms. What y' all doing this weekend? Anything? Come on, outside of. Outside of your super bowl plans, what's up with your Friday and Saturday nights right in the crib? Getting ready for the super bowl in the crib. Y' all know we got a severe cold front coming, right? One degree tomorrow. One degree, four degrees, central heat.

[B]

I won't be here.

[D]

About that.

[C]

And space heaters.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, again, if you out there and you are homeless, climb your ass under a car with a blanket. I ain't going to hold you. Is the homeless is dying from hyper hypothermia.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Supposed to be warmer next week, though. Thank God.

[A]

Yeah, but they got to survive tonight to make it the next week.

[D]

I'm under a car, yo.

[A]

What's wrong with you? For real, you got to body the heat game if you're homeless.

[D]

They body it too.

[A]

Hey, Mona, what you on this weekend, man?

[E]

I'm just getting prepared for my birthday next week. We in philly on the 14th and we in DC. We added a second show on Sunday. I'm working on my birthday. Get them tickets, nigga.

[A]

We got you. We got you. We got you. Let me see what I got going on this weekend. Not too much to write home about. Keeping it low, keeping it light, sitting, saving some money. Bitcoin is down on lost 200 grand.

[D]

Crazy down.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It don't matter.

[D]

You're still buying.

[A]

I'm still buying, but I don't know. Yeah, I lost like 200 grand more than that. Probably 250 more than that.

[D]

It's cool.

[E]

You could say that without a tear coming up.

[D]

You got some bitcoin over there. You got more than two coins.

[A]

I wouldn't know what I Got. I know how much money I had, and I know how much money I got now.

[D]

One coin, 66 grand.

[A]

Yo, y' all have a good weekend out there. Actually, man, hold up for a minute, man. Hold up for a minute, man, for the freaks out there. Stop playing with us. Stop playing with us, man. On super bowl weekend, it goes.

[D]

Been ish money on them.

[A]

Y' all hold it down out there, man. Really enjoyed this broadcast. We will see you same time, same place next week. Have a good super bowl weekend. Stay safe. Stay safe. Stay safe.

[D]

Hey.

[A]

Make sure to get your Valentine's Day plans together. Go to the gas station, get your flowers as need be. The boosters got you the boosters. That is when you hit the boosters.

[C]

Look, I got you a new vacuum cleaner.

[A]

I'm glad.

[C]

Happy Valentine's Day. Sorry. That's what they had.

[D]

So you can get flowers from the booster, but you can't get it a bag?

[A]

Like, what are we talking about, yo? Yeah, I can get a bag, but it's gonna be for her. I know mine. I want with the duster bag. I want with the shopping bag. I went with the receipt. I want my customer service.

[D]

His idea of a booster, you think is a smoker. Sher head booster Joe. These pull up with a trunk full of everything.

[A]

You get everything Where? I don't want the booster coming to my house.

[D]

They ain't got to be your house.

[A]

I'm not leaving my house.

[C]

Leave the police station at the safe space, right.

[A]

Y' all make too much money to be bummed, fam.

[D]

These will send you a.

[A]

A thing.

[D]

Everything they got. Yo, dog, this is what we got right here. And what else do you need?

[A]

What else y' all be needing from the booster? A vacuum.

[D]

I just bought two central air systems this week.

[B]

You talking about whole systems this week.

[D]

You out your mind.

[A]

How about you say, you know what? I'm not so mad at that, though.

[D]

You really want to know how much?

[A]

Yeah, but I'm not mad at that.

[D]

Matter of fact, I bought three. I bought one for my man. The one that I bought for my man. Of course, it was $7,200, and they gave it to me for 3,300.

[B]

What you talking about?

[A]

You did that for a friend of yours?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

He gave me my money back, and then I bought two for myself.

[A]

Myself.

[D]

The systems alone, was they about like three grand? 3100 a piece. He gave me two for 3500.

[A]

I'm not mad.

[B]

You sit.

[D]

You sit over there and do what you doing.

[A]

I just said, I'm not mad at this, but, like, that makes sense.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you got shouts to the boosters. And if y' all know any good boosters, you know.

[A]

Wait, you said jealousy is a mother.

[E]

Nigga mad as they paid a thousand.

[A]

Dollars flat for that Big Mo.

[E]

Tight. Come on now.

[A]

That's the other thing.

[D]

Your little $1,400 Balenciaga hoodies. If I could get them for five.

[E]

Yeah, we gonna come in here matching with your hoodies on.

[A]

I hate when niggas detect jealousy wrong. Like, I may be jealous about some shit, but I'm that right there.

[E]

This particular topic, start coming in with all my stuff.

[D]

That particular topic I'm secure with.

[A]

Listen, y' all hold it down out there, man. Have a safe, fun, amazing, warm super bowl weekend. And until next time, man, y' all hold it down.

[E]

If I could do this.

[A]

What if you could do this? Being a here, a lot would be different.

[E]

Just wrap the show up.

[D]

We'll fold that up right now.

[A]

You've never heard of Joe, buddy, they.

[D]

Going to come through with them.