Episode 907 | "Panel of Experts"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 907 | "Panel of Experts"
Release Date: February 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast is a sprawling, high-energy roundtable where Joe and his co-hosts—Imani, Parks, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, and special guest B. Dot—navigate the latest swirling music beefs, dissect new albums and singles, debate the social dynamics of transactional dating, and take a side trip into hip-hop history and podcast culture. Lively debates, deep-dive music critiques, classic jokes, and some real talk about modern relationships define the atmosphere, with the group often referring to themselves as the "panel of experts."

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Energy Check-In & Introductions [00:31–06:00]

• Panel banter leads into Joe setting a tone of gratitude and higher power.
• Guests announced: Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, Imani, Parks, B. Dot.
• B. Dot reflects on being happy to be there and “scratching and surviving” [01:57].
• Joe shouts out hip-hop journalists and the team, including a get-well-soon to Elliot Wilson after heart surgery [14:19].
• Early foreshadowing that the panel will tackle serious music topics and beefs today.

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2. Beef of the Week: T.I. vs. 50 Cent (and Family Warfare) [18:31–41:52; 43:44–56:08]

Setting the Stage

• The crew closely deconstructs the ongoing rap feud between T.I. and 50 Cent, noting the unique angle: T.I.'s entire family (sons King and Domani, and wife Tiny) get involved on diss tracks [22:06].
• Joe frames it: “This is family bombing. I’ve never seen nothing like this.” [22:38]

Joe on Battle Strategy

“I am a huge fan of firing at somebody consistently when they’re not firing back.” — Joe Budden [19:32]

Panel Weighs In

• Parks and others note that 50 Cent seems “uninterested” in responding musically, mostly meme/trolling [24:33], leading T.I. to feel free to “bomb away.”
• Mark: “People aren’t afraid of 50 Cent anymore. It’s not like 2003.” [23:34]
• E (Imani): “If 50 really decides to dedicate some real time to this beef, ... it’ll be a different thing.” [24:08]
• They debate whether 50 Cent’s memes are effective and if a musical response is needed.

Domani’s ‘Ms. Jackson’ Diss [41:52–54:42]

• Unanimous praise for Domani’s introspective, lyrical, deeply personal shot at 50 Cent.
• Joe: “This is one of the most impressive diss tracks I’ve heard in a long time.” [51:29]
• Notable line:

  “Maybe that’s the reason you’ll talk about them / Maybe that’s the reason you be targeting the women.” — Domani, summarizing the psychological depth of the diss [50:14].

• The panel acknowledges the beef is likely “over” based on Domani’s track—even Joe says, “you can’t respond to this” [53:36].
• Discussion shifts to whether TI should keep going, with risks of “overplaying his hand” [38:14].

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3. Hip-Hop Debates: Competitive Rap, J. Cole, and Diss Track Etiquette [56:08–73:55]

• TI vs. 50 Cent vs. Lil Wayne: Panel breaks down who could win in competitive settings (verses or beef).
  • Mark: “I think Wayne wins [against T.I.], but T.I. beats 50.” [39:44–39:56]
• Saha the Prince sends shots at J. Cole, panel dissects the fine art of technical rapping and who's actually hungry for competition.
• Mark: "J. Cole can rap... but I feel like he’s forfeited the right to be responded to in diss tracks, man." [70:16]
• Saha’s freestyle is played and universally lauded for its complex lyricism and punchlines [63:00–68:58].

  “If they got to bring 'em alive, it costs extra." — Saha the Prince [65:47]

• Joe jokes about “putting the Civic [car] in the shop” after all the Honda/Civic disses directed at J. Cole.

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4. New Music Reviews: Bruno Mars & Hip-Hop Releases [75:19–96:20]

Bruno Mars – 'The Romantic' (Album Review)

• Consensus: album is well-produced but feels empty, lacks substance/depth.
  • "This comes off like if you heard one, you heard them all ... like karaoke ... like a vacation timeshare.” — Parks/Imani [79:15–79:39]
• Mark: “You want to hear that your heart’s been broken in the music. ... There’s a pain, a texture that’s missing.” [82:00]
• Panel grades the album between C and B (“I’m giving it a C.” — Mark [84:37]).
• Joe: “Bruno Mars needs to go date a ho, fall in love, get his heart broke, give us a real album.” [83:20]

Hip-Hop Roundup

• Boldy & Rome Streets, Juvenile x Megan Thee Stallion (“BBB”), Joyner Lucas x Kodak, DJ Paul x Freddie Gibbs, Swae Lee – all get quick first impressions.
• DJ Paul x Freddie Gibbs praised for grimy, classic style: “That’s hard. This is hard.” — Joe, Parks [92:00]
• IDK album receives glowing review, especially for production, features, and Whoo Kid’s drops. Joe recommends it [94:00–96:20].

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5. Rap History & Generational Debate: Lil Yachty’s Comments on Hip-Hop Pioneers [106:46–119:02]

• Yachty’s controversial statement: criticizes lyrical simplicity of Sugarhill Gang’s “Rapper’s Delight”; says early hip-hop was “weak as hell” [108:20–109:55].
• Panel united in their pushback:
  • “The record was never praised for its lyrical prowess. … That was the big bang.” — Parks [110:45, 111:10]
  • “No other genre does that. No new rock group is going around doing that.” — Mark [116:27]
• Mark, Joe, and B Dot stress the importance of respecting hip-hop origins and not applying today’s standards retroactively.

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6. Podcast Culture & “Rapper Podcaster” Beef: The N.O.R.E. Conversation [122:00–131:56]

• N.O.R.E. (Drink Champs) had claimed he set the blueprint for “rappers turned podcasters”—hinting other shows follow his lead.
• Joe addresses the context directly via live call with N.O.R.E.:
  • N.O.R.E. clarifies, “I wasn’t talking to Joe ... I always credit the rapper-pod part to us three: me, Joe, and Million Dollaz Worth of Game.” [127:16]
  • Both express mutual respect, shutting down rumors of friction.

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7. Social Topic: Ayesha Diaz’s $50k/Month Relationship Standard [134:00–171:32]

Viral Clip

• Ayesha Diaz (model/star-tender) says on a podcast: expects a partner to provide $45–$50k/month if she’s “sitting down (not working)” in a relationship. “If I can’t depend on you to cover my lifestyle, what’s the point?” [139:01]

Panel Reactions

• Imani: frames it as “prostitution-adjacent,” not necessarily disrespectfully, but questioning the transactional approach [145:16].
• B Dot: “That post sounded like love!” (referring to her Instagram story about being 'kidnapped' and falling for a man) [159:01]
• Mark: Asks if transactional relationships are really so different than any relationship with non-negotiable standards; distinguishes between seeking stability and simple “gold digging” [167:05].
• Debate extends to whether “nightlife” culture sets expectations regular women can’t or shouldn't match.

Notable Quotes:

“That’s a trauma response to not having had shit growing up … The fear of being without conditions you to protect against that before you get to love.” — Joe [149:57]
“Some women make it a non-negotiable because of what they’ve lived through. But transactional love isn’t just for women, it’s for men too.” — Mark [164:20]

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8. Other Music & Pop Culture Topics [100:29–105:54]

• Quick R&B recommendation: “Girlfriend — Honey Water” [97:37]
• Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ballot discussed: Lauryn Hill, Mariah, Wu-Tang, Iron Maiden, Shakira, among others. Panel advocates for New Edition and Wu-Tang as first-ballot entries [101:42–104:33].

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9. Politics & News Quick Hits [175:41–179:15]

• Mark gives a fast summary of the “world’s longest State of the Union” (Trump), urges voter activism, and highlights dirty details about the “Epstein Files” as the scandal continues [175:41–178:28].

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Joe on generational disrespect:

  “Anybody can have an opinion. But in your generation, you are considered weak, Yachty.” [113:01]

• On diss records:

  “I love a diss track where you love the guy—you care about the person you’re speaking to.” — Joe [47:56]

• On dating and transactional love:

  “All relationships are transactional at some level. The term ‘gold digger’ is for those obsessed only with money as their goal.” — Mark [167:05]

• On current music culture:

  “Music always wins. History has shown that...not just with good raps though, like, good songs.” — B Dot [30:16]

• Comic relief:

  “Earth, Wind, and Fire was from Dyckman. There’s not enough Dyckman on this [Bruno Mars album].” — Imani/Parks [79:15, 79:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [18:31] — Launch of TI vs. 50 Cent discussion
• [41:52] — Domani's "Ms. Jackson" diss reviewed
• [56:08] — TI vs 50 debate moves to rap, J. Cole, and battle talk
• [75:19] — Bruno Mars new album review begins
• [106:46] — Lil Yachty’s Sugarhill Gang comments
• [122:00] — Podcast culture, N.O.R.E. call-in
• [134:00] — Aisha Diaz viral “$50k/month” relationship debate
• [100:29-105:54; 175:41–179:15] — Miscellaneous music, Rock Hall, quick political/news

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Episode Tone

• Energetic, rapid-fire, sometimes combative but always playful.
• Language is irreverent, heavy on jokes, pop culture references, and classic hip-hop banter.
• When addressing social issues and culture (dating, podcasting, hip-hop history), the crew leans on experience, skepticism, and wisdom with comedic asides.

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Final Notes

This episode captures the JBP at its freewheeling best—serious music and culture debate, big personalities, peer-level joking, with sharp edges and real insights about the current state of rap, relationships, and podcasting. Also, plenty of classic Joe Budden meta-commentary (“I think all you niggas is my sons,” [130:13]) and humility amid the braggadocio.

If you missed this episode:
You’ll get a full tour of today’s hip-hop feuds, an honest assessment of chart-topping albums, a masterclass on diss culture, and valuable male perspectives on transactional dating, all delivered at full volume and with an eye for what really matters artistically—and culturally—in 2026.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Mic check. Mic check. 1, 2, 1, 2. Wake it up in here.

[B]

Yeah, man.

[C]

Hey, it just looked over on the couch.

[D]

Couch's a little different today.

[E]

Broke in, right?

[A]

Feeling good, feeling great. Today is a good day to be grateful for everything.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

How about that for today?

[D]

Every day awake.

[A]

Start the day loving the Lord.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

A higher power.

[C]

I see where you go loving God.

[E]

I see what's happening to you.

[A]

Whatever you think is going on in

[B]

your life,

[A]

let's try out today. Just being grateful for it all, man. The real grateful. Not that Civic.

[C]

Leaving people alone.

[E]

Why do you keep with them? People like poking at a dude.

[A]

I don't give a fuck.

[D]

Nah, the cooking, the burgers thing was over the top for me. I'm with you now, buddy. I'm with you now.

[A]

You see him, right?

[D]

I like the Civic. I think that's fly.

[E]

Let my man.

[C]

The burgers is crazy.

[A]

Like, why is he flipping burgers?

[D]

He don't need to be flipping burgers.

[C]

Yeah, it's too much.

[D]

He's not wearing a hair net. It's unsanitary.

[E]

Touching base with his fans, that's what you do.

[D]

The fans aren't in the kitchen.

[A]

His fans are vegan. His fans don't even eat beef. We saw that last year. Oh, shit. See what you did there, Mark? I'm here today, buddy. I'm here today, buddy. What's poppin, though? Got my man B.in the building. Yo, BDOT, how you doing, man?

[B]

Feeling great, man. Scratching and surviving. Happy to receive the invitation.

[A]

Come through. I'm glad. I'm glad you could be here with us.

[C]

Scratching and surviving.

[A]

Scratching and surviving. That's what he said when I called him last week, too. Scratching and surviving. I was like, oh, now's a good time. Oh, God, always. God always looks out, ain't it? Hey, you free for a co op?

[B]

Let me check my schedule.

[A]

Well, I'm glad you're here with us, especially with all this hip hop shit that came out that I have no idea about that you'll inform me about later.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Parks, what's up with you?

[D]

Chilling, man. Feeling good.

[A]

Feeling good. Feeling great. Good. I absolutely love that. I know Mark is on Pure bullshit. So I'll skip him reasonable and we can get right into the proceedings.

[C]

How easy to money. How's it feel to be on the

[A]

main here in the morning? Look at the money.

[C]

Manny, how's it feel to be on the main pot?

[A]

Looking good. You look good in the mornings.

[E]

Interesting. It's interesting.

[A]

Oh, we need more words than that. This would be his last.

[B]

Is it like a two way contract situation?

[C]

Hey, look, we brought him up from the G League.

[A]

Yeah. Amani is one of our star players from our farm system. And he's been hitting some home runs. So. So we brought him up. See how he does in the big leagues hidden behind or in front of big Aaron Judge. God Body. God body.

[C]

Say it.

[A]

Say right. Say it. What's up? You Aaron, right? Don't none of these niggas want smoke with me? Imani, I don't care how many beats you try to start. Look, I get in front of it. I get in front of it. What's up, Joe?

[E]

I think niggas is testing you at this point.

[A]

All these dudes.

[E]

I think niggas feel like you're. Like there's a little chink.

[A]

Oh, I didn't get a pencil. Oh, wait, who's testing? They tested me. I didn't get a pencil.

[C]

We gonna get into it.

[E]

Oh, really?

[D]

I missed the test.

[A]

Me. Same, same. Yeah, same.

[E]

We'll talk about this.

[C]

Me and Monty was talking about it this morning.

[A]

It must be two landscapes out there.

[E]

No, it's not.

[A]

Are we looking at the same things? 100% rarefied air, buddy, and you know it too. You my real friend. Rarefied air buddy. Like what these Internet niggas? None. Niggas say a dude.

[E]

Remember you asked for this last year?

[A]

Asked for what?

[E]

You say I'm just. I need somebody to shoot at. Like, ain't really nobody out. There's people to shoot at.

[A]

Oh, shot at fucking home. Corey Holcomb. I got a list. Faison love is on my list. In a few months.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

In a few months, I'll get at him. I don't feel like it right now.

[E]

We talking about people in the podcasting space that's actually doing some shit.

[A]

Oh, I love everybody. What's not to love? We all family. My son's out there.

[E]

That's peace.

[A]

I look out there and see nothing but sons. Family reunion. A theme of this show. A theme of this show. When family sticks together. You can't. You can't divide us. You can't divide us, man.

[B]

Man, you acted real unusual ever since that article came out, Joe. I'm just saying.

[C]

See, he feel me.

[A]

B died. You catch on too fast for my liking. He's all bullshit. I've been more laid back since that argument.

[E]

Okay?

[A]

I've been chilling. I've been chilling, focused on every. I'm just grateful for it all, man. Yeah, man. I'm just grateful for everything.

[D]

As you should be.

[B]

Paul.

[A]

What's up, man? You all right? You all right over there? I heard you was in a sauna this morning. I heard you was in a sauna

[D]

sweating with a sauna scoop.

[A]

Sweating with another male. Started your day off, right? Started your day off bright and early with some male sweat in the vicinity.

[E]

Nast Friday.

[A]

That's what he felt like at 9:00am man, you got to do whatever's in your bag, whatever's in your wheelhouse.

[D]

Sure, sure.

[A]

That's the bag he wanted to be in, man. I ain't mad. It all right, Mic check. Mike, Mike, Mike. Let me make sure this thing is on do, Ray. Me f. All right, we good. Asap. Asap. N speed this up. When they come on in the club for me, I need two more. Yeah? Yes, sir. Big Jersey, whole New York City, Atlanta, what's good out there, north and South Carolina. What up out there? Pop quick feel full of hot fresh

[F]

out the box till pop dinner drop

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six made a quarter meal in the

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pin Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Yes, sir. Ratchet this episode.

[B]

None of that.

[A]

I'm aiming at your. Car right now. Yeah, you know they call me Ti but you don't know me you be hating and I see why Cause you don't hate I think it's time I made a son for nigga I graduated at the streets I'm a real OG how the traffic shoe killers understood oh geez everybody outside this weekend gonna have to show me gonna make me bring a shave it to a real slow creek My niggas hanging at the window mouth full of gold teeth when the gun start I've been wonder when it's gon see everybody that was there for all this speculation Cause today we gon

[C]

see what the future

[A]

investigation on me I don't care that they have my shows and they waking on me I'mma keep on fighting popping off the T on the beat I ain't stopping I'mma keep it in the streets contrary to your beliefs you can be thoughts and your feelings. Come on you see what vibe I'm in right now? You see where we going with this right now? By now you should see what time it is with this episode? Mark, didn't you go to college? Ain't you a cute like. Why. Why you sit so still when these wasn't you outside? You a bad.

[C]

Yeah, I did the steps of this.

[E]

You ain't do the steps.

[A]

He graduated. Ain't you the. With the red te. What's the. With the red and white colors? What's that one? The pretty boy. Ain't you a Kappa or something? Yes. They turn up, he needs a little stick. Yeah, he too calm for me right now. What was they playing in the coat? Come on. Oh, New Orleans. What up out there? London, what up, Germany? What up out there? Hope you got some insurance. Cause death. Endurance, Ms. and driver. All right, we almost there. We almost there. We almost there. My. A weekend. We got good weather. It's 40 degrees in New York. Feel like summertime right now. Queens. What up out there, Flip? What up, whole Trinidad? What up out there? All right, I'm ready to rock. I'm ready to rock.

[C]

Ready to go.

[A]

Ready to go. Ready to go. Ready to go. Oh, my God. Come on, man. Come on, man. Wake it up here. It's the weekend Wake it up here. It's the weekend and my girl is gone. Wake it up, wake it up here. Make some noise. Make some noise up here. It's the weekend I'm baby free. He's with his mom. Yeah, yeah. Co parent dad. Y' all know the vibes out there. They know the vibes. Yeah. I mean, Mark going on to talk Arabic with his son. Not me. Not me. Who was that?

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Yes, sir. Let's go. What episode is this?

[D]

Nine hundred and seven.

[A]

Welcome to episode 907 of the Joe Button Podcast. I'm Joe Button. Hi. Hey. This happens. Hey, you guys. Brought to you by power, by Fueled, by prize, fixed prices, gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Very humble. Very humble host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right. If you've been around Philadelphia, you know the vibes. You know what I mean? If you ever watched one of them reunion shows on VH1, you already know what time it is. If you've seen them out there in Atlanta when the cold was popping, building the Sphinx, you know what time it is. If you seen him on CNN repping, you know what time it is. If you seen him on Pierce Brosnan, what's his name? What's his name? If you seen him on Pierce Morgan or Pierce Brosnan, you already know what time it is. Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, how you doing, bro?

[C]

I'm good, I'm good. I'm good. Real quick. Happy birthday to my daughter Aya. 22.

[A]

Hey, happy birthday. Hey, happy birthday. So what'd you get her? You did that whole 22 grand on no again?

[C]

Yeah, last year was 21.

[A]

I got to get this guy an accountant.

[C]

Was your idea?

[B]

Wait, gr.

[A]

Every year, like 21 was a big deal.

[C]

I should have talked to you yesterday.

[A]

Oh, my God. Jesus. Anyway, we got our good brother list, king list extraordinaire. None other than B.in the building, man,

[B]

you could be here under different circumstances, man.

[A]

Man, you remember.

[D]

I do.

[A]

You got it, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What are the different circumstances? What happened last time?

[B]

Remember I was here last time and had to, you know, explain the departure between me and Mr. Wilson?

[A]

Oh, shout out to Elliot, Elliot Wilson, who is in our prayers. I saw a post about some open heart surgery stuff that he had some staples in him. It looked really important. Elliot, we love you good brother. You are always, always in our prayers. And don't you ever forget that.

[D]

So, yeah, get well soon, Elliot.

[A]

Yeah, get well soon. We done. No mess, mess. No mess today, B dog. It's all good.

[C]

We said get well soon, right?

[B]

You said.

[C]

Yeah, we all said get well soon.

[B]

Yeah, I sent him a text. We're all good.

[E]

Did you say Mr. Wilson in the text?

[C]

Mr. Wilson, did you say Elliot? That's part of the problem, you know,

[B]

I told him, just take it easy. Mad lion voice. It's all good. It's all love.

[A]

This guy, this guy.

[D]

He brought the Mad lion reference.

[A]

I like it, I like it, I love it, I love it. I love. Next to him. He's here in the morning, playing with him. He looked different in the morning. It's my man right here. Our good brother Imani is in the building. How you doing, man?

[E]

Great, great energy. I like it. Got a lot of energy today.

[A]

You a shady too. Yeah, I see it, I see it, I see it. I like it, though. Next to him, King Elmyra, our good brother.

[D]

What's poppin? What's poppin?

[A]

Parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing, man?

[D]

Feeling great, man. Feeling great. Nice out. You got my car back.

[A]

You drove?

[D]

I'm good.

[A]

I drove.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

You got the chain hanging out the.

[A]

There you go.

[D]

I. Me too. I ain't. Me too.

[B]

Last time I saw Parks, we was on the billboard in Times Square.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that's true. That is my partner.

[A]

Levis.

[B]

Some Levis. America's top models. Over here.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

No, I. I really support that. Almost enough to have drove to 34th street or wherever it was to take a look at it, but 42nd, man. Oh, 42nd. Still another dirty New York block. Another dirty New York street street. But shout out to Levi's. You guys look great on it.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon and Tanner are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, you guys are here. Don't you ever forget that. If you're not subscribed to Patreon, now would be a good time to sign up to mine. That's the most important. If you have some extra money than Marks, if you have some extra money than Imani's and whatever B dot head's going on, subscribe. Subscribe to it all. Subscribe to it all. Shout out to the Patroni. Shout out to the subgroups out there. Shout out to the hate listeners out there. We appreciate each. Every one of you. Don't you forget that. Fellas, what's popping?

[E]

Yo, man, I like your energy.

[C]

It's a good day.

[E]

I see. What's up?

[A]

I got a good night's sleep.

[D]

I see that.

[A]

Watched a little memory of a killer.

[D]

Is that good?

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Memory of a killer is good. Check it out. It's the hitman with amnesia. He's everything. He's everything up. Oh, sounds amazing. Yeah, he's everything.

[E]

That sound good?

[A]

No, it's a good show. Memory of a killer. This is not an ad ad. Pay me Hulu. Gotta start looking up who owns what to see if we'll be paid now ain't number Dizzy. Yeah, them right wingers got it all. They got it. I don't know how we gonna get this ad money now. You gotta really be like minded. Yeah. Nah, dead ass. You gotta be aligned. You gotta be aligned with some to get an ad dollar. Now I see why is taking Netflix deals is moving. Getting out the way. Leaving me on these mean streets. It's horrible.

[C]

Anywho,

[A]

where do we begin?

[C]

It's a lot beef over music.

[A]

Listen, we got. No, we got a. I have a room full of experts for the topics that we have here today.

[E]

That's true.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have Imani here who is an expert in one of these topics. I don't know if I could say yes

[E]

the funny. You ain't even talking about the music part neither.

[A]

No, no, not at all. Not at all. Consider that no analyze harmonies.

[D]

No different harmonies.

[A]

Yeah, we got. We got B Dot here. Who's Gonna tell me all about the new stove. God cooks. You know, he collabed, collaborated with Swiss Beats. He'll tell me all about it. I'm sure him and Parks will have some type of backpack keeping it real. Oh, God.

[D]

Chop the stove.

[A]

You did not just rock. And Mark is expert on so many things. So which one do y' all want to start with?

[C]

We gotta start with Bruno Mars.

[B]

Do we?

[A]

Do we? What the fuck? We don't.

[C]

Mark, man.

[A]

New music. Mark.

[C]

We. All these music packs.

[A]

Has not even heard the new Bruno Mars.

[E]

I thought we would kick Lil Yachty's

[A]

back in first, but we are not kicking Lil Yachty back up. Family business. What's up with family business? You know what? We're stuck. This show is rooted in beef and families.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah, it's a family.

[D]

It's a family show.

[A]

It's a family show. And we really enjoy beef. Beef. When is it beef to pause? When is it beef to enjoy? For me, this has been a really enjoyable beef. Now, finally. Yes, now. Yeah, I didn't feel like that until last night. Yeah. Two nights ago. By the time this recording is released.

[D]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

By the time I heard TI Firing off again and again and again and again. Well, this week. Again and again. Well, now, this week.

[D]

Since the last time. Again.

[A]

Since the last time. You heard me. Again and again. If you are new to this broadcast or Joe Budden, I am a huge fan of firing at somebody consistently when they're not firing back. Back. This is.

[D]

This is your MO for sure.

[A]

I absolutely love that. So the fact that TI Found the time to do that in a rollout,

[D]

too, is all your bag. Yeah, this is full.

[A]

I so changed my mind about. About not wanting him. Not wanting his rollout to just be engulfed in beef. I take it back.

[D]

He's got a big enough record that. Yeah, it don't matter.

[A]

Yeah. The record is climbing up the charts. E. I said climbing up the charts.

[D]

Climbing up.

[A]

Don't change that dial, Jo. Oh, my God. Sound like Mero. Sound like Mero and Cass up here. Jesus. His record is doing extremely well, and it's. It's not even climbing. It's jumping.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a bunch of spots.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

On the charts. When you have something that's doing that beef away. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Diss whoever you want to diss. I really enjoyed the two TI Diss tracks. I told y' all last part that I like the family flex. Yes, I love that. Especially when comes to it, this rich nigga versus rich nigga. You Gotta find any way you can stunt. And your family is a stunt. These dudes that's in the house been in the house all 18 years. 19 years with these little fucking rugrats.

[E]

Yeah, you love them.

[A]

Raising them, feeding them, listening to them. Their thoughts and opinions. These new kids got opinions and shit now, like you raised these kids. And they downstairs writing raps and they talented.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait. And they repping for moms. And you ain't even have to go say, yo, pin something down. They probably came right to dad. Yo, check this out real quick. Let me see if you think this is good for release. What a family. Bombing. Yeah, sorry. Bruno can wait, Stove. God can wait. And who you say it again? The Bush administration. Who you want to start with something stupid? La Russell again, Right? You want to start with the Russell again?

[B]

Nah, nah, nah.

[E]

We gonna get to him, though.

[A]

What I do, ask part Hearts, because I'm such in a good mood and I'm so excited. Can I get a DJ voice? Oh, my gosh. Fast.

[B]

Sound like a clue tape, man.

[D]

Go ahead.

[E]

That I know you want to get your clues. That heart is beating.

[A]

I gotta get the records first.

[C]

Too fast.

[A]

Y' all talk. I didn't. I didn't think he'd be that fast.

[C]

Yo, I'm with you, though, Joe. That had me proud, man. I love watch. I love listening to Tip. I know we about to hear that.

[A]

And then I like seeing the kids.

[E]

The kids get involved. And I like the fact that even on the trolling side, they good at the trolling shit, too. Oh.

[C]

That's how this shit started.

[E]

King is good.

[C]

King came out with the trolling, and he came out with attract. And Damani came out with what I think is the best one of the whole beef.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then, you know, and then Tip came back with two more. And then, you know, Mama's up there with the photo to burn the house. You know what I mean? And saying how proud she is, man. That's how you do it.

[B]

That's like family junk.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I never.

[A]

Yeah. Has that ever happened in rap? No, no, no. I've never seen it.

[E]

No.

[A]

I think that's a big part of why I'm enjoying it so much. That's the best part. I've never seen nothing like this.

[B]

You think it might get a tiny release?

[A]

No, that's the part that I think is so fire about this. Yeah. Is that Mom Dukes just gets to not say a word. Not tweet, not instastory, not an emoji. She get to just do whatever the fuck she was doing and ignore all this shit while my entire entire family bombs away on somebody she might not even know. She might be getting a manicure. She might see the just dropping on the timeline like us. But I think that's super fly. Super fly. Trust me. I was with a girl and tried to write a diss track for her before.

[E]

They don't really ain't working.

[A]

Yeah, not at all. Let me see. Y' all can go.

[C]

Who.

[E]

Who thought Tiny would be the person to potentially take out 50 cents?

[C]

Yo, that's crazy. You couldn't see that.

[E]

Come on.

[C]

You couldn't see that coming. But I'm glad, I'm glad people like the other day I was saying, like this is bully shit and somebody gotta stand up to the bully. And this is what happens.

[B]

People aren't afraid of 50 Cent anymore. It's not like 2003.

[D]

Nah. They're afraid to get put on that Instagram fucking meme regimen.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

But 50, he's had a hit list of people that aren't backing down. From Rick Ross to now, TI History has shown that people aren't afraid to step up to 50 like how it used to be.

[E]

Let's be clear though. If 50 really decides to dedicate some real time to this beef, let's not make it seem like it won't actually be something that he can win. Like, don't get me wrong.

[D]

Hold up. Yeah, yeah, hold up.

[E]

Just hear me out media wise.

[D]

Yeah, he could.

[E]

Winning the beef doesn't always have to be on the music side itself. It has to be a combination of multiple things. Like I think you can still get in there and make some good music.

[B]

I think so too.

[E]

On top of the trolling shit that he's good at doing, if 50 decide to dedicate his time to this, it'll be a different thing.

[C]

I mean, 50 made it clear on his post though. Like, look, just. Y' all think I. He said, he said he talked about middle aged rappers rapping and making still want to do rap beef. Or he called it battle rap, which is not exactly.

[D]

It's not the same.

[C]

Yeah, it's not the same. But he tried to make a joke out of it, which I understand. He was like, just cause y' all want me to rap don't mean I gotta rap. Which is what you were saying earlier. The 50's not gonna rap and doesn't feel compelled. I think you're right. I thought that TI Coming out with some songs would make him come up with some songs. 50's like that you gonna get these memes. And I think the fans aren't responding the way he thought they would.

[B]

Yeah. Nah, it's a new day.

[A]

Well, I don't even really see. The memes have stopped too now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think any music is coming. Like I said, he's not in. He's not compelled to make any music. If music were to come. Um, I'm not sure how a 50 Cent diss record sounds in 2026. In 2026, I would have to hear that. This beef is also my other. One of my problems with Uncle Murder and this wrap up shit at the end of the year. Cause now what I'm gonna have to wait. Anybody that raps that's on that side should rap. It's rap time. Yeah. Not wait till the end of the year. If there was a game involved in this, six, six, seven tracks in already. If there were banks involved, and we already know that can't happen, but if these type of MCs were involved, you know they got memes saying that yayo gonna do a vlad. That's just funny because. Yeah, Uncle Murder's not gonna rap. 50's not gonna rap. Nobody's gonna. Nobody's gonna rap. And when you know that, that's what you get to bomb away. Yeah.

[D]

And I'm gonna get my sons.

[C]

Right.

[A]

When you know that you could bomb away. It's like you playing with the house money now. There's not. There's nothing that's gonna go wrong with this. All right. Turn me on, you might delay.

[D]

Let's do it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. World famous. World famous. World famous. DJ verified. DJ verified. You attack the family. It's a family. It's a family. Family. The family returns. Family returns. Shout out to Benny on the. Shout out to Benny on the ass. All parties rest in peace to the Coliseum. Coliseum. Come on, Cop deucey tail flee your fight. You the kind of sucker we don't like. Want to bully everybody who want no problem the come bully you and you want no problem to be a bully. I can't tell them wolf tickets you stabbing damn sure ain't sell I can't see why use a ho ain't much a man in my 18 I want pressure, need no mercy help the bear talk about the danger too sick, getting ahead to care. So make them cop deuces call on truces they don't want it take out my mask I eat the face of my opponent. We too rich to telephone it, but I remember you. You loading that little homie pressure agen informant detective increasing payment making antics more effective I got the power to devour your little rep and you sour Liverpool you know you always been a coward ran into someone who wasn't playing and you ran except for stuck in that chair where the you stand

[C]

all right

[A]

thoughts thoughts so far Thoughts so far Any thoughts on verse one? I like it I with it I like the energies throw back back nostalgic you don't want no it's a good hook too Good hook too that hook is it good hooks on disc records big fan of that damn show ain't s you dominate me I can't see why use a hoe ain't need much a man in my 18 I ain't got time to go to prison around here messing with you all that deflected f perspective I expect you to do to say the least this character questionable might go to making us a case and just post some It'd be a small price to pay for me exposing a Let get this straight I ain't paused Big fan of dropping the beat out when you say something like that. Punched in the mouth you thought police a DJ brown man I'm all talk this p to be a bully I

[E]

can't tell hell that cut his hair off and just went back to a different mode.

[C]

Yeah, sure did he I don't know.

[A]

Something happened in ti's life. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

He got that Pharrell beat. It was like.

[A]

I'm saying that. But his last album that nobody paid attention to at all was all right. Actually. I've really been enjoying the T.I. albums that nobody been with at all.

[B]

And they had a good verse on there too.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

On that album that you're talking about, Damani had a good verse on there too.

[A]

They had a nice can rap. Really.

[E]

He's really good.

[B]

I like that joint, though. He got the little 21 savage influenced dad live with the.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a nice touch and it's a good. What is this disc four?

[D]

Three. This was three.

[A]

I think this was disc three. Yeah.

[D]

Lessons was the four.

[A]

It's a good disc three. It just allows you to just. This just sounds good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't tell. He's picking beats. He's picking beats where he. And that just bop. The bop wins. Yeah, the bop wins. It's tricky because like I said, rapping seems to be the blueprint for how you handle the 50 social media blitz.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you know he's not gonna step in that in that arena. So people have discovered a good Way to counter. And now it takes a lot of the oomph off of any meme that comes after it.

[D]

It does.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Music always wins. History has shown that. You know like Rick ross, him in 50 y out music.

[A]

50 he did, yeah.

[E]

So not just with good raps though, like good songs, like you said is important. The hooks to me are just as important as the verses that he's doing on these records.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And the best music Rick Ross ever made in his life was coming directly after.

[E]

That helps.

[A]

That always. That always helps. It just feels like when 50 does the me, the meme shit, it feels like a guy who's ultra rich don't really care about rap and I'm bored. So I'mma just have some fun with you and go on about my life. When rap music get involved, it doesn't come off like that. Like it seems like there needs to be immediacy and when there's not, when all the posts then become about business and your TV shows. See, see post Metallic Perry for me. Yeah, exactly. For normal people, 50 is not normal, but for normal people. Yeah. That's one of the reasons that you maybe don't engage when there's shit on your jacket. Because now you just got somebody that's gonna continuously highlight all of these things that people that are in high level business, they just don't want highlighted right now. Yeah, true. I don't want any of my business partners to see a tweet. And trust me, all of the business partners, businesses is looking at they looking online.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So who wants that? Who wants that when you ultra up.

[D]

But if your business is good, then you it go ahead.

[C]

Right?

[E]

What was 50 supposed to do though? Cause if we take the timeline of how this even transpired, I don't think he looked for this to happen. I don't think he was going out his way to go back and forth

[C]

with TI he poked the bear. You know what he should have did? He should have just. He should have just said, I don't wanna do the verses.

[B]

He should have did the verses.

[C]

Why not?

[B]

It's a good conversation.

[A]

50 is not trying to be a competitive rapper. That's why he's a TV executive.

[D]

But didn't he just tour a couple years ago?

[E]

50 still likes.

[A]

That's getting money.

[D]

But so would be a versus soda

[A]

versus oh please, you're a rapper, Joe. I'm a competitive rapper.

[B]

I think all rappers are competitive.

[A]

That's not true. At least the good ones.

[D]

I think 50's competitive.

[C]

I think he's competitive. I think that's why he's not doing it, because he can't win.

[B]

No, he could win.

[E]

No, I don't think that's something he could win.

[D]

I don't think he could win. I'm with you.

[B]

I mean, that mix was good by

[A]

Joe, but at the end of the

[B]

day, 50, let's not crazy.

[E]

I got like, come on.

[D]

I love 50. He hasn't rapped in 20 years, so,

[B]

like, 50 got records. Like, let's not get.

[C]

But, you know, versus now is about records.

[B]

I'm talking about verses.

[D]

Yeah, I thought you're talking about battle.

[C]

Battle. He can't. He can't win the battle. Oh, no, he can definitely win a versus for sure. I think TI Wins the verses, too, but I think it's closer.

[E]

Why you keep counting him out in the battle?

[D]

I just think he's out of.

[C]

He hasn't rapped because every time we hear 50 rap, like, like, on Magic or not, the song he did with Nas, which could have been an epic record, it's. It wasn't good. Last few times I've heard 50 rap, it hasn't been good.

[A]

Okay. I also don't think that he would have much more to say to TI that is compelling. There's that, yo, they caught you in Walmart. They arrested you. You a rat. You did the commercial. Look at your wife, like. And that ain't even. The effectiveness of these things, I think has worn off for a lot of people.

[D]

Or they're good in meme format, but not necessarily in rap format.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[E]

Thank y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Counting homie out. I mean, don't get me wrong.

[D]

I love Fif.

[E]

The shit that TI Putting out is amazing. The shit Damani put out is amazing. I get all that. That's cool. But I think sometimes when you get. Sometimes a person will have to really step up to the plate when there's something worth fighting for. And I think, like, a competition like this, he. He'll step to the plate.

[A]

Yo, turn my delay back on real quick.

[D]

Got you, Lord.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And shut up, Amani. Shut up, Amani. Hear you over there talking stupid. We got more new ti more new

[B]

ti

[A]

about to ask. Volume 1. On the page. Man, I told you, I don't do memes. I do music. Oh, muscle, fat face, ass. Also, I'm starting this over. Also. When any rapper shows the ability to produce quickly in a beef, I'm a huge fan of that as well. Yeah, like, he's turning these around, and they're good. He's turning them around and they're good. Like he's writing quickly. He has a lot of thoughts stored in his head to get a out throughout this process. I, I honestly think he could go on for another week and a half.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

I don't think he will cuz there's no need. Right. But yeah, I think he could go on and. And suddenly I began to remember who TI Was. Honestly, Honestly I, I that I had that entire thought problem. Like yo, I was there for TI And Flip.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like I remember how that was. Went flip. Bring your ass out.

[E]

Yeah, him and Shorty Low.

[A]

Yeah him he roll up in him and Ludacris.

[B]

That was good. Yeah, that was good.

[A]

That was a tough one. That was a tough one.

[B]

Short lived but good.

[A]

That was a great. It was back and forth on a song, on the same song, on one song. I love that. That's their version of 4321. For me that's cannabis and hell yeah that is so I'm just saying I maybe forgot that TI was so battle tested.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I'm used to, you know, the family and the family show and reality and just the cartoon shit that he got 80 mil for. Like I'm. But he's battle tested. Back to this. Yeah pussy. Hey say man I just woke up man. See some niggas do the talking in the front of the song to make it seem like something. They make it seem like they cool and calm during this I believe him. I believe he's just as calm as he sounds. Disrespect my wife like that shit just side think I'mma take this shit from you cause a nigga you going to have to come take my like expensive game this playing hope you know the price knowledge and power with the knowledge don't caution enjoy the win pretend to learn more from the loss with many men leave they shin open go with their job Candy shopping at the candy shop this so soft I make music not memes nigga we ain't the same the world is different Let begin with I'm a king and you lame still in here rapping cause I just can't put myself in the face without me telling them today ho you a and you fake. Yes more choruses, more beef ches let it be a no be tolerated obligated to check it they playing fake I'm a let a disrespect my wife like that just I think I'm take this from you take my life see if it was me the sec the remix of this. Ross would be coming in right here. I would go get some help, like, if I wanted to just keep bombing away. I'm going to get the rest of the. Is beefing.

[E]

You don't need it.

[A]

Sheesh. Yeah, you don't need it. Talk to me, Talk to me. Distinguished panel. This is my favorite panel of experts.

[B]

It sounds like a Jeezy record. I'm trying to think, is it from, like.

[A]

I had the same thought.

[B]

The Trap of Diara or like, TM101? It sounds like one of them records, but I like. It sounds menacing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's a good word for it.

[D]

And I like the bars.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

And the beat allows the bars to be heard clearly on it.

[E]

And the flow.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Do y' all think he stops now?

[C]

No, I want him.

[D]

Quite frankly, I don't think he is.

[B]

I want him to. I want the album.

[A]

Where's the album?

[B]

Yeah, you know, I think we're ready for it.

[D]

He's still rolling out. No, I don't think he stops.

[C]

See, I think you're right. I don't think he stops. I just want him to. I feel like you won. The fight's over and all you can do is overplay. Remember when Remy killed Washither and then came with that track afterward? I just don't want to slip up.

[D]

This is different.

[C]

I know, but I'm scared. I just want. It's like, this is perfect. Your whole family rolled on. If y' all won, every track is good. It's over.

[B]

You gotta know when to lead a party.

[E]

Boom.

[B]

I think this is the case.

[D]

So shits keep getting being fired.

[A]

You're not wrong. I'm here for it.

[C]

I'm just scared.

[A]

What I will say is, in this track I've in. In the recent track I just played, I've heard a lot of the talking points that he's already expressed.

[D]

I think he did better on this one.

[A]

Huh?

[D]

I think he did better on this one.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is one of my favorites.

[E]

Yeah, you stop, you stop. And if 50 decides to go ahead and do something else, then, you know, you continue. But you prove your point. It ain't too many niggas that should fuck with TI at the. When we had that conversation about him with the versus shit. Dwayne. Shit. All this shit just let me know that we was kind of bugging on our take.

[A]

Wait, who was bugging? I never said TI could be 50 in the versus.

[E]

Well, no, no. We had a conversation about TI and Lil Wayne.

[A]

That was the conversation I never said TI could be Lil Wayne in the verse. These N be high in here talking. These n. Listen, don't get no comment. No comment about some of the things that are said in this room as it pertains to hip hop takes.

[E]

There were people who did.

[A]

Well, Mark be saying that.

[C]

I was agreeing with you, nigga. I said Wayne would beat ti. I think ti beats 50, though.

[D]

I don't think that's B.

[A]

How you feel about TI versus Wayne?

[B]

TI versus Wayne.

[D]

It'll be close.

[B]

I think Tia might. TI might win by like.

[D]

I love ti, but I don't think he's one of these.

[C]

I don't think it's a crazy take, but I would take. I think Wayne wins.

[E]

See, I was thinking about it, Wayne, but after I hadn't. I need a little reminder.

[A]

These need a reminder. No, they need a reminder of what Lil Wayne does.

[B]

And Lil Wayne is great. He's top 10 of all time. But I'm thinking about, like, later discography.

[D]

It don't matter.

[A]

Yeah, it's not gonna. Come on.

[D]

It's only 20 songs.

[A]

You're never gonna hear it. You're never gonna hear my later discography.

[D]

Both of them, 20, 50, and Wayne, 20.

[A]

You ain't gonna get nothing past 2013. Yeah, you don't need to.

[B]

Yeah, I gotta think about that one.

[A]

I'm glad that T.I. is getting his props. In the respect to your point. I think a lot of people forgot a few things about TI's rapping ability. He's not just reliant on flow and production.

[D]

I think they would both be great battles, by the way. I just think that those two are some of the. They have a fucking last of hits.

[E]

Ti just battle tested.

[D]

It's on steel.

[B]

I mean, that's what a hit record does, right? A hit record is amnesia and an alarm clock at the same time. Time, like people forget and then here's a reminder. Yeah, like TI's level, skill level, still been high for a long time. But, you know, sometimes you just got to remind people.

[A]

Put my delay on track three. Yeah.

[E]

Built the Ass.

[A]

Built the Ass, Volume one, Volume one. Hey, body in Connecticut.

[B]

F. Yo, yo.

[A]

We got a new entry. New domani. New domani. New domani. New domani. Damn. Now you can't even be imani no more. You can turn my delirium. This is. This is my favorite track out of this beef. Me too.

[D]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

This track that I'm about to play is my favorite track out of all that's been done. The. The brother Put something out to King.

[D]

Yeah, I actually liked it. The video was bad because he wasn't hitting the words right. And on beat he's smoking a joy doing push ups.

[E]

All right, you got push ups.

[C]

I was done.

[E]

You got him.

[C]

Ignore.

[A]

See I like the push ups. I like the push ups. I like the pushups because you gotta find something to do. You gotta get hype while you writin and thinking some of this stuff. So I didn't mind the push ups but I like King Moore as the crash out brother. I think he fits that role to a T of the brother that will really take it to hell.

[C]

Dig your mama up nickel.

[A]

Yeah, you kinda need something. I changed my mind on that too. Like last part I was like, yeah, I don't like to hear anybody tell my family and yada and I while I don't personally in hip hop beef, like I can't hear what Pusha t said about 40, I can't hear some of the things that fucking like I've heard too much in hip hop beefs to draw the line there. So if you're gonna do it, fine.

[D]

Yeah. The problem for me is if you bring family, it's the same thing with the Kendrick Drake shit. You bring dirt in. Now it's dirt time. You do lots of 50.

[E]

The 50 don't have no. Like he go to hell.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So yeah, that's the exact person I want to do all this shit with.

[C]

I hate it. But once you just started is on.

[A]

Yeah, I absolutely hate it. But if they're going to do it, I guess I'll watch. But I love an introspective diss track. I love somebody that's watching the war but just has thoughts that are past the violence and the surface level. Just low hanging fruit. Hey, this is where I think the root of some of these problems stem from.

[D]

This was very Meet the Grams coded, but he executed it well.

[E]

This was done before too though.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Meat Joe.

[E]

But not Meet the Grams style of going at 50.

[D]

You ain't talking to the Grams.

[E]

Jadakiss did the same concept at some point when he was so it feels like he just took that concept to a whole another level.

[A]

Yeah, I forgot you were signed to so raspy, yo. Come on.

[D]

Not raspy at all either.

[A]

Yeah, word clear. Clear. Clear ass voice. Let's get into it. Domani. This record is called Ms. Jackson.

[B]

Great beat.

[A]

I love the beat. I love the outcast. Ms. Jackson Flip.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Smoke you a little blood, man.

[A]

Yeah, this is. This is all the Way heat. I love that he sounds like Cole and a couple other that can really rap. I love that he can really rap.

[D]

You can really rap.

[A]

You don't even play like this. Letting the beat and this little flip go this long. If you can't really rap. We letting this ride. Y' all out.

[F]

Am I overreacting or is it valid? I want to have a one on one combo. About the man you sacrifice your life force so the world could see this talent. He's a legend now. I guess it work out. But I need some answers. Are you happy with the way he been holding your family name? Need to know. Cause I can't sleep at night thinking you died in vain. I think it got to him. People won't tell him because he pay him the emperor's new clothes are tail.

[A]

We need to tell we nice. Yeah, I'm starting that over.

[E]

That nigga nice.

[C]

He is nice and smart.

[A]

Shout out to all of us who had no idea this guy was this nice.

[D]

Like I've been known he's nice.

[A]

Like I'm hearing Cole3Stack about to say

[C]

this feel like Andre.

[A]

Yeah, nigga, he sound like that. And fucking T.I. just been nigga. If you don't go up to your kid's room. I appreciate it Ti Even more for that. You still in the booth rapping. And you got Cole 3000 upstairs upstairs on PlayStation or some shit on Twitch Boy. If you don't come help me defend the family. Oh my God. This is all right here. And I don't know why in a track if you are talking to somebody. This ceased. It's just a different aura around it is. It is.

[D]

And someone's parent.

[A]

Yeah, right. Man, this is sick ego. Wait a minute. Hey,

[F]

Miss Jackson. Am I overreacting or is it valid? I want to have a one on one convo about the man you sacrifice your life for so the world could see this talent. He's a legend now. I guess it worked out. But I need some answers. Are you happy with the way he been holding your family name? Need to know. Cause I can't sleep at night thinking you died in vain. I think it got to him. People won't tell him because he painted the emperor's new clothes are tell. We need to tell. We fail too many times from shells or either jail cat's got nine lives. One more will ring the bell and I don't wanna do it. Reason I came to you? I'm hoping you could talk me through it. Maybe it's something that you could tell me. Bring Some understanding. I'm more level headed than the people headed to this mansion. I hope you know it's time sensitive. I think he really was a little confused, but I won't mention it. Part of me, if I'm digging it. Hate to have you reliving it. You supposed to be restroom with just a few questions. Do you whisper in his ear before he makes his decisions? Can he pass a nervous laugh? He do when he timid. Is he really happy? Talent took the basket and gimmicks led to the actual business. He used to be something. We thought it was a joke. But now we see something off with him. I'll offer him a chance to reunite with you and I'll do it. Nothing left to do. So I just sent him to you. Ms. Jackson.

[C]

That's the smoothest dip dirt I ever heard.

[A]

It started as a joke. Now we see something off with him.

[D]

That came from the heart.

[C]

No, for real.

[A]

I like a diss track where you love the guy like you love the. You care. You care about the person you're speaking to somewhat.

[D]

But I'm gonna threaten him, right?

[A]

I will send them to you.

[E]

Yeah, it's a much younger person talking to this man too.

[A]

Word, Right?

[E]

That's what. That's what's me up a little bit.

[A]

Like, right?

[E]

He's.

[B]

He's in his 20s.

[E]

He talking. He talking like he older than everybody in his battle, right? Yeah, like that. That means a lot.

[A]

Like, this is tough.

[B]

24.

[C]

24.

[A]

Wow. Come on.

[C]

Have 50 days.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

And don't bring up my family name in a beef neither.

[F]

Hey, Curtis, I encourage you to do a little research on my whole family, but you can start with me first.

[C]

I know you're not familiar with your mother or father.

[F]

Maybe that's the reason. Easily you'll talk about them.

[A]

I'm turning it off. Distinguished panel. Distinguished panel of experts. Panel of experts.

[C]

Yo, when you start psychoanalyzing your. I know you don't know about parents.

[E]

And yo, Light skinned is back, man.

[C]

Don't go too far.

[A]

We not back.

[B]

Yeah, that was. You're gone too far, bro. Briggs, man, like, he's going in. He's going in. It's impressive. You know, I knew demani could rap, but I know he could rap this well. I'm happy about it.

[E]

Beef bring the best out of some boy.

[C]

Yeah, because he rapping, rapping. And he's saying some like. It's not just the flex of like the skill, it's the he's actually saying

[D]

and the tonality and Pocket. All that is a A plus.

[A]

And it's just the perfect way to respond to someone. Everything about it is perfect. This is my child that I raised. Who turned out good. Is a man and observes the world differently. Who puts stock in some of the things that you rappers and you materialistic fucks are not seeing. This is not just surface level Gucci, Louie, Prada. This is not kill, kill, murder, destroy. This is is conscious beef. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Let's keep going.

[F]

You would a mother or a father. Maybe that's the reason. Easily you'll talk about them. Maybe that's the reason you be targeting the women. Let somebody try your mama. Bet you probably want to kill them. Speaking of killing, Curtis, I heard you was a fire bug. Well, I'mma be the reason all your fans put they lighters up.

[C]

This part right here, now you talking

[A]

about this, that cover fire bug.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Tying it back to the COVID Tying it back to the alleged arson. Repeatedly calling him firebug. Going from firebug to the chant. This kid is so advanced, he knew to put some type of pre chorus chant. Yo, throw your lighters up. You ever been abused? Throw your lighters up like he's in a diss record doing this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

This is so impressive.

[F]

The lighters up if you've dealt with abuse. Put your lighters up if you no longer enthused with a running around profiting off our pain. Love it when we fall down that's when Curtis gets paid. Now put your lighters up if you too want s. But don't profit like you from it. You'll fake it for the news more than you know.

[A]

You Curtis G. Damn. Yo, this is one of the most

[E]

more impressive diss tracks I've heard a long time.

[C]

Yeah, it is like.

[E]

It's really good.

[C]

Y' all should have had you in a fetal position crying.

[A]

This whole 50 Cent verse. Curtis, you know him better. You don't drink, but this what you're

[D]

doing with the song titles.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Black people you serving up and you never went and you never say nothing bad about the white people. He just. This is loaded. This is is loaded. This is loaded. Let's keep going.

[F]

I think you went too far to stop now. I got a little more information you can jot down. Firebug. I can still smell that gasoline

[A]

before you cremate them N dog. Firebug. I could still smell the gasoline. You know, I got a bunch of texts from rappers last night. You had sex. Yeah, I got a bunch of texts from rappers.

[E]

What was the Sentiment.

[A]

Domani.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah, that's it.

[A]

Yo, Domani. Fire. Yo. Did you hear Domani? Yo, Beef over. Holy Domani. Like, that was it. He different because you can't respond. We all just in unison kind of had this the same, like, Oh, I listen to this seven times. I'm on 11. I'm on 11. I was laid up in the bed. Winnie the Poof. That's how I listen to Beef down.

[D]

Yeah, sorry.

[A]

Beefed out. Hell no. I was in bed, snuggled up. But anyway, yeah, N Records. Sorry.

[F]

I can still smell the gasoline on you, Firebug. At least let him sleep before you cremate him.

[D]

My God, this kid.

[A]

I'm glazing now. Now I'm glazing. He's a. Now it's a glaze off. If my son would have came in here with this track, I wouldn't have dropped. I wouldn't have rapped at all. I have told. Hey, go do that four more times and bring it back upstairs.

[D]

Right?

[E]

Yeah. 50. There's no response for this. You might be able to go back and forth with TI on, cuz. I don't think TI Tapped into that level of.

[A]

No, no, no, no. This one lead us along. Did le. This family is this. This. This one is over. And you know it's over because now you see people on the Internet saying, like, all right, if you get one of kids touched, y' all gonna be mad. Yo, cuz, that's the only place you could go. I saw that a few times and was like, nah,

[B]

don't count 50 out, man.

[A]

Just. He better have a nephew. He better have a nephew somewhere. Cause then this kid is so fucking introspective that he dropped this diss and then reached out to fifth son to have, like, a peace talk.

[C]

No, no, that was King.

[E]

That was King. That was King that did that.

[A]

So whoever, right?

[C]

Who cares?

[A]

Same family.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

Firebug. Ironic you're not hot as what you used to be, Firebug. And I'm the one delivering your eulogy. Fireball. Don't let him put in his light up. The next time you miss a mama, I could send you right to her. Try your love. I'm sorry, Ms. Jackson.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

God damn.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

That was brilliant.

[A]

I haven't been that impressed in a long time with a rapper that I wasn't familiar with.

[C]

I wasn't expecting that.

[E]

You could tell. You're a real student of the game.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't need to hear anymore. This beef is officially over for me.

[E]

I'm not counting them out.

[A]

But yeah, you can't.

[E]

But at this moment, count them out.

[C]

How you talking about rapping?

[B]

Listen, 50 might come back with a banger.

[E]

Let me say this.

[C]

There's nothing 50 could rap that better than that. I feel comfortable saying that in 2026.

[E]

I agree with you, but I don't think just the music alone will get the battle who won.

[D]

I do.

[E]

So I think that they still will.

[B]

I mean, 50 reaches out in the vault, maybe get a dusty Dr. Dre record beat.

[D]

Nah, you need to clean up or something like that. Dre busy, man.

[B]

I'm just saying he might have something. You never know.

[A]

I'm with Beat out on that. I will never bet totally against 50 in a beef. Part of why I'm saying. What I'm saying is I just think he's not motivated to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Best ability is availability. And I don't think he's available for this.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

And he's saying it basically. Oh, you think I got time to fucking beef with you old ass rappers? No, I didn't think that. But that's why we should not meme sometimes that part.

[E]

He might not care about the L today. So I can see him not even wanting.

[C]

Well, he's not gonna process it as an L. It seems like I never rap back. I could win this beat battle.

[A]

I don't want to.

[B]

It's beneath me.

[A]

I don't think he looks at TI on the same page plane.

[D]

He should.

[B]

Yeah, he should.

[A]

He should.

[C]

But he don't.

[A]

He does not. And why should he?

[E]

Why should. Yeah, why?

[A]

Why should he?

[C]

Well, if we talking talent.

[A]

We never talking talent. We never talking talent. Fair.

[B]

I mean, TI Is a formidable.

[A]

There's plenty of people less talented than each of y' all that are way more arrogant. There's people with less talent that feel like they are are them.

[B]

But TI Is an accomplished rapper.

[D]

You know, he's got hits too. It's not just rap.

[A]

It's not like that's a different dog park than the Diamond Dog park.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, there's Gold's Gym and there's Diamond Gym. You ever been to F1? Nah. You ever been to F1? Me either. You ever been?

[E]

No.

[A]

Parks. You ever been? No. No. Anybody ever stop to think about why? Let me ask y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Do y' all think it's just. Cause y' all just didn't get around,

[C]

Just ain't have time to get there?

[A]

Right Busy. Y. I don't think that. Right. Please say no. Okay. And I want to go to one, too. Huh? Nah, not your little hookup going. I want to go under the right.

[B]

I know a guy.

[A]

I know a guy, too. They told me how much everybody got to make to go. What? Really?

[E]

What is it?

[A]

I'm not going to say it on air. I'm not going to say it on air. Ballpark, it's nine of them.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Entry level.

[C]

That settles that.

[A]

Feels good to go in a club where everybody got nine figures, right?

[E]

You get a plus one

[D]

if they got eight figures.

[A]

Amani, when you have nine figures, you'll never even ask that question again. Yeah, it's a fact. Do I get a plus one? Like, that's broke.

[E]

No, Nick.

[C]

Broke.

[A]

We all broke. We talking about nine. Well, y', all. You.

[E]

Yo, I'm gonna rob one of you.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. No, for real. That's the only answer? Yeah, that's the only answer. Final words. Final words on T.I. and the Harris family versus 50 Cent family.

[E]

That's my final takeaway.

[D]

That's the best family.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they all executed.

[C]

That's why it feels good.

[D]

Even the King was hot. Like I said, parts if they. If he would have got the words right in the video, it would have been a little more impactful.

[A]

But. But in the future, maybe we'll get to the. The King slap on this broadcast. I'm taking your word for it. I heard a little bit. It wasn't bad.

[D]

It wasn't bad.

[A]

But sandwiched between what dad did and what Damani did. Yeah.

[E]

Don't let Buddy Red get on that guitar.

[A]

That's what they said. Do some Jimmy Hendrick. Do some jazz. They went. They went right. This story. He was in the studio. Buddy Ray.

[E]

Talented family, talented flute.

[A]

This do it. I'm down here. All of that. Word. After.

[D]

After this little week of. Of bangers. Let's hear it all.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly, I bet you that I could. If somebody did a flute this, I would be able to tell that this. These are aggressive flutes. You can tell?

[D]

Aggressive flutes?

[A]

I think so.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

See, I knew somebody's gonna laugh. I'm serious.

[D]

I'm with you.

[A]

Oh. Oh.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

No more words. We're done with this, right? We're done with this, right?

[B]

Until further notice.

[A]

Yeah, I know it's prize fix time, but put my delay on.

[D]

Oh. Go ahead.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Back once again. Back once again. Once again. The jbp, jbp, jbp. DJ Verified, verified, verified, verified. Whole Jersey City, Jersey City, New Jersey City. Ice is flip, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. We have a world premiere. World Premiere world premiere world premiere. New new new new new new S. Prince.

[D]

Oh, I hear that.

[A]

Send me a DM. Said I got something you might something you might want to debut. Want to debut. Want to debut. Okay, okay. Exclusive. And I seen what he was saying on Twitter. Saying on Twitter, saying on Twitter. And it all start to make sense. Start to make sense. With no further ado. No further ado. Look at beat out. So proud. He's a proud back. He love being around for these hip hop moments. Hip hop moments.

[B]

Let me tighten my koofy,

[A]

Dog. Yeah, you can turn the delay off.

[G]

Can you let your people know you're not with me? Cause them thinking you is is with me. I could never fall off.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[G]

A lot of niggas claim the best rapper alive Two things can be true that's a factual lie I'm that actual guy with a capital Y Fluff slicker than the nigga with the patch on his eye Scared of our good brother in that grand national why I should have knew you and then the Honda was gonna have to collide let's take this.

[E]

Yo, hold on. Let me put my headphones on, Yo. Nah.

[D]

Why you firing on Cole?

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

Didn't have to happen.

[A]

It don't matter.

[C]

That's why he.

[A]

I have no idea why firing on Cole. Let's hear it, though. I saw the tweet about you niggas that went to college and dropped out and you think you nice and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[D]

Oh, he did. He did have a little copy.

[A]

I saw all of that, and I saw him say that he didn't like some things that Cole had to say on one of them songs.

[B]

I'll find it in a minute.

[A]

And we know that he's still Kanye, and I don't know how Kanye feels about. It's just all amok. But one thing we know is this boy with a pen pad and some time yeah, boy. Is a different level. And this is. This is kind of that. I'm starting this from the top, man. Stop playing with him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, bro, can you let your people

[G]

know you not fucking you is is with me.

[A]

Yeah. I need headphones on for this. Let's go. Whole Chicago. What up out there?

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

And a lot of claim the best rapper alive Two things can be true that's a factual lie I'm that actual guy with a capital Y Fluff slicker than the with the patch on his eye the scatter by good brother in that grand national Y should have knew you and that the Honda was going to have to collide Take this magical ride back to the shy the foi I don't know how many bows I actually tied I felt like maracas I ran wrapping the pie and my shit hit like crack when it's dry so high you can hit it once and pass it to God I give off that human trafficking 5. Cause I had that boy and the girl in the back of a Dodge I did what I had to survive can't sit with my back to the door that's my tactical side the AK rushing like a half back in the eye Armed with a shotgun cause you passed a hauncher I should have seen staying in school but at this juncture I got $10 bags fat as action Bronson and I want to rap but I lack the sponsors and half of you never had the hunger to pass the trauma I'm in the trap Passing fonta on the sun on Ashwagandha I'm used to getting stabbed in the back it feel like acupuncture oh my God. Back to back to back with Hondas One of them packed with ganja I came back just to crash the summer I put more fire on waxed in Kwanzaa. Cause whatever he brew can be used by the bartender Mazel tov. Shots to the glass of the car windshield they might have went over your Yamaka. Cause Hanukkah might be the only event my bars missed for.

[A]

And these.

[D]

Yo, he's going crazy.

[A]

He's going absolutely crazy.

[E]

You walked in here knowing you had this?

[D]

God, what the is wrong with this?

[A]

I'm so glad I didn't beef with him. Hey, I tell you that one.

[D]

You can walk out.

[A]

I was listening to this, trying to rhyme a little cat in the hat. That that he yar Bar mitzvah acupuncture.

[B]

Why is he doing a drive by on the Honda for?

[E]

Man, I don't care.

[B]

We don't know.

[A]

Fuck that Honda.

[B]

Nah, man. I saw what you said about Cole, man.

[A]

Not J. Cole, who I love and don't want. I don't want anything I say to affect our non existent relationship.

[B]

This is another non existent relationship.

[A]

Say hi, J. Cole. Like what? Fuck that Honda. I'm with Cole. I'm with him.

[B]

Okay, but the Honda, I love the Honda.

[A]

Please.

[G]

Shots through the glass of the car windshield that might have went over your yarmulke. Cause Hanukkah might be the only event my bars missed for. And these niggas with are not restless. Trust me, they didn't shot him on legs. Brock Lesnar, murder for H and turning the cross dresses. And if they got to bring them alive, it costs extra.

[A]

If they got to bring them alive, it cost extra.

[E]

Wow.

[G]

That's what I call a small gesture. That's to all of you Pond Dexters, Dark sparking sparks popping for the cacao like dark chocolate. Call God and he don't answer. They call blocking out of options. Draw Glock and start swapping gunpowder. The gunfire, the harmonics, the multiple shots going off, it's called violence. Bullets keep passing me by. I'm far silent. The cops watch as I'm stuck lodged in a tree and my truck lit up like the city they caught pocking. Probably hoping to find some narcotics. I get emotional talking about it on call time. Okay, this might be off topic, but tell St. John that them raps just ain't that jaw dropping. You forgot us to owe you from false prophets. I rap punches as hard as Bernard Hopkins and ain't no yes men over here. My dog, stop it. We like to band on the Titanic we going down with the ship before we go jumping off it. So watch your mouth before you go over talking. It's cool till you run into one of his under bosses. You got one book and thought you could run a boss and I hit a trap one in Charlotte and one in Charleston have you ever read the book of Jeremiah? Cause when homie dropped, y' all was looking terrified. I tell your squad in the pieces, furniture moving like jamiroquies open heart surgeon after getting sterilized you was a spoiled kid so I can't spell the ride And I done seen real killers get set inside a wheelchair all because they told a pair of lies.

[A]

Ever used a fish scale to wear

[G]

a square car in the day I sold ten bells, man I swear to God my plug made us write to him on a piece of of paper cause he afraid of niggas wearing wires so many stores, man I can't retire from moving china wide out the Shangri La what I'm saying I grew up around some dangerous guys famous for committing some heinous crimes. It can get dark quick I'm on daylight saving time you ever got a toothbrush and had to shave it down? The principal told my mama I should have stayed behind 20 years later I got one of the greatest minds I know it ain't my business but I made it mine ain't no statue of limit limitations on my latest rhymes and here's my favorite line if you heard that I'm a silver Spoon just know I got a nickel plated knob. It's just rap.

[D]

That was some. That's. That was some amazing.

[A]

That's Exorcist is in this now.

[D]

That was some great rapping. You can rap, man.

[A]

That. That was absolutely incredible.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Shout out to Saha, man.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

He bodied that shit.

[B]

Wow. It's just rap, but it's like False prophets was even about you, man.

[A]

Don't matter.

[D]

He ain't like it though.

[A]

Don't matter. I didn't like it.

[E]

So many of you said he didn't like it.

[B]

I ain't like it.

[A]

So what?

[B]

I like that. You know, fuck it. Just step out.

[C]

Right?

[B]

It's about rap, right? So if you don't like something, just.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

I respect that then though.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

And for side fans, like, oh, my God, that was crazy. I was so mad when it went off when I was in my email list. I'm like, it ended.

[D]

That was incredible.

[A]

He smoked that.

[B]

This aside. That's just great lyricism.

[A]

Like.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's all I cared about.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

A couple, couple, couple drive bys in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

A few.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A fusillade, man.

[E]

Oh, is rapping again, man.

[D]

I like it. I like it.

[C]

I'm here for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Or a lot of is rapping happen again.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We got side the Russell. It's a new yachty freestyle. I'm gonna play.

[D]

No, you're not. Ox core's broken.

[A]

New yachty. Look at that. No reverb parks. The world famous. Saha. New Saha. I'm sure he'll put that out at some point after this drops, but. Absolutely amazing for now. Hit the rewind button on that side. Salute, boy.

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

Wow. You had a fire emoji.

[E]

You had a long day with that boy.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

That's a headache.

[B]

He's really clever that.

[D]

That's a headache.

[A]

He be for him. You can't go outside for like a month. You gotta. You gotta stay in and just read some books. Yes. Yeah. I would have did it just because. I know. No fear. But it wouldn't have been.

[D]

That'd have been a long day.

[A]

Yeah. A week. Month.

[D]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Six months.

[B]

You think Cole responds?

[C]

No, no, no.

[D]

Well, maybe like down the line some.

[B]

Okay. When he gets time.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He ain't got no mic.

[C]

A track coming.

[A]

Better question, should he.

[D]

There's no mic in that Civic.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

I think he.

[C]

No, he shouldn't. You know, I'm tired of him. I feel like, he's forfeited. I might even minority. I feel like he's forfeited the right to be responded in the diss tracks, man.

[A]

Fall back.

[C]

Just make. Make homage.

[A]

Excuse me.

[C]

I think.

[D]

I think it would look away, but

[C]

that's all I'm saying.

[A]

In the.

[D]

In the spirit of rap competition, I think he could.

[A]

Yeah, he won't. Cuz he got a good spirit. He got a good soul. I think we're done hearing Cole beef with.

[D]

I don't think that he wants this one also.

[A]

Yeah, I think Cole love Cole.

[D]

He don't want this.

[A]

We got plenty of colleges to drive to in that Civic, but he going, you need to pull over at a truck stop.

[D]

Yeah, it's a different. It's something different.

[A]

Spend the night. You need to. What. What's the name of the Rudabaga. What's the name of the. What's the house that they travel. You said a rudabag. Rudabagle. What the. A Winnebago. Winnebago.

[E]

Saha. Not gonna get a response. Only because of Tommy.

[D]

No, I think it ain't just timing. Yeah, it ain't just timing.

[E]

Yo, I don't like that we. J. Cole can. All right, come on.

[C]

J. Cole can rap.

[D]

Of course.

[E]

Let's get that clear. Let's not even play like that. That he's on an album run right now. He's promoting his flipping burgers.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Whatever.

[E]

It's a part of my rollout. I don't have time to go ahead and address this, but I don't think everyone should get comfortable just saying.

[A]

I think that's smart. Right?

[E]

But I think somewhere down the line you get some response. And I don't think should just get comfortable thinking Cole ain't going to respond to somebody at some point.

[A]

I think we comfortable in that.

[D]

I think. No, I think he'll throw a little couple jabs his way or something. No time soon.

[A]

79 bars in return. In return five.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think he wants to.

[A]

Has too much time on his hands. And he looking for a reason. Clearly. I was. I was. I was so intrigued because he sent me this and nobody knew it existed. And then I'm seeing him on X, like, stirring up. Stirring up. And people are like, yo, what the is he up to? Like, what is he on? Why is he even on this? J. Cole. Then I seen him say something about J. Cole. J. Cole.

[D]

Timing is what he's on.

[A]

Yeah. So it's like you could tell when somebody is looking for a problem. Same thing we said about TI and 50. Like you could tell TI was looking for you. Side sound like he got a list. He's checking it twice. He's not one of the people that I would rush to just this.

[C]

Take your time.

[A]

I would. I would say you a. No, you a loser. You're nobody. Ain't sell no records. You got no Grammys. I would. You broke.

[D]

He would got Grammys.

[A]

Okay. Take that off the list.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, you broke. You live with your mom. You live in the basement, nigga. Ain't nobody wanna be.

[D]

You.

[A]

Look at your drip. Look at your clothes. Like you know all the shit you get to when it ain't about rap. You have to throw some of that in there. If it's just rap, he's one of the best.

[D]

You're gonna have to have a lot of little ghost ghost bars.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's the only thing you get off.

[B]

Yeah, Cole will respond like you said, on his own time. You know he's gonna drop like a

[D]

thief in the night, like a be a feature or some shit.

[B]

Yeah, he'll address it at some point. He should.

[G]

Yeah. Hey, bro, can you let your people know you not with me?

[A]

Cuz them thinking you is.

[G]

Is with me.

[A]

I just want to hear him say that the grand national is going to collide with the Civic again. And then I'm done. Then I'm done.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that. This diss track with not even a diss. It's just like

[G]

two things can be true. That's a factual lie. I'm that actual guy with a capital Y flicker than the. With the patch on his eyes. Scared of our good brother in that Grand National. Y. Should have knew you and that La Honda was gonna have to collide. Let's take.

[B]

I know. I like it. It sounds like Blueprint T2 a little bit.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

At least the flutes on them guru.

[A]

Yes. 100.

[B]

Yeah, same.

[A]

Fool, you good at this music shit, man.

[B]

I've been around for a while, Joe.

[A]

Yeah, no, I see. How old you b dot?

[B]

41.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you've been around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[D]

Use that promo code, though.

[A]

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[C]

All right.

[A]

Speaking of feeling good to be right, I think I was right on the money with this Bruno Mars shit, but I'll toss it to y'. All. Bruno Mars album outright this second, quick, concise listen, the romantic.

[E]

Nine songs.

[C]

Nine songs.

[B]

Nine songs.

[D]

He usually does short albums. This is. This is on par for him.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I didn't hate it.

[D]

I didn't love it.

[B]

I didn't hear it.

[C]

Oh, I expected to hate. I came expecting to hate it. I didn't like the rollout so far. I didn't like the. The performance. Everything felt like we like cosplay. Everything felt like a character. That's how it's felt the whole time, so I wasn't expecting much. First couple tracks got me, though.

[D]

I think that Bruno Mars needs to turn the DeLorean off. It's time to. Or put it to a different decade or. Or something. The production's great. The musicality. He's got live strings, live horns. Songwriter's great. Fauntleroy's on there. A bunch of, you know, bunch of very, very talented people. People on this album. The overall vibe just didn't do it for me.

[C]

It feels stale to you or did you?

[D]

It felt like lounge music.

[A]

I'm gonna play track two, which is cha cha cha. It's one of the tracks that I really do enjoy on here. Track one, track two, I'm vibing.

[C]

Those are my favorites.

[D]

I liked one.

[A]

Yeah, I liked one, and I like.

[E]

Track one is where he's Puerto Rican, right?

[D]

It's got a little bit of a Mexican.

[A]

He's track one. Got it.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It's got all the people mixing them all up.

[A]

I feel. I feel you, though, already from the rip.

[D]

And this is one of my biggest problems with this album is it's like he teased the Spanish influence but didn't go all the way in a way that he could. Yeah, like, there's a lot of Spanish rhythms. He's got the Santana flip on here. Once the. I think the second song starts. Like he's teasing the Spanish influence, but it doesn't commit to it at all.

[C]

To me, this is one of them ones.

[D]

Yeah, this is dope.

[A]

This is dope. But every problem I have with Bruno Mars also exists here. But it's dope. Like, don't Spanish fly me to death.

[D]

No Spanish fly me to death, but do it right.

[A]

This. This, to me sounds like Lady. Lady Gaga over at the super bowl over the Spanish. That's.

[E]

That's what's getting me tight about.

[A]

Sounds like.

[E]

Cuz if you were going to roll this out, then you could have did it so many different ways where it could have been a little bit more respected.

[D]

If he would have committed to the Spanish vibe, it would have been perfect for the Super Bowl. Like, it would all. If you float in. Go ahead.

[A]

It's a good song.

[C]

If the whole album were like this, I would have.

[D]

It's a weird way to start the album.

[C]

It's.

[A]

It's with the household.

[C]

It set a tone for me that I thought the whole album was going to be.

[D]

It wasn't.

[C]

Which is why I say I don't. I don't hate. I. I wasn't mad at this album. I didn't. It wasn't a top. It wasn't an A level album to me, but it was solid. And songs like this. I would say the first half in particular, this cha cha cha. I don't like the single, but shouldn't you.

[A]

But shouldn't your expectation be of a. A level act who just took nine years between projects, who's a premier artist with all the buzz, budget and everything in the world that is in. Shouldn't our expectation be a level?

[C]

It should be. I think when the single came out and I watched the performance of the award show, I was just like. It lowered the bar so much for me that this actually was a pleasant surprise.

[D]

I like the single, but now in context of the album, it's weird because, like I said, it's bouncing back and forth between Spanish music and like some 70s soul and it's a weird collaboration.

[A]

That's a perfect description.

[C]

I think that's right.

[E]

This is at the Cat karaoke bar.

[D]

I'm not gonna do that.

[E]

I'm just saying he's the House band. It feels like you're just pressing play on the most popular karaoke records and singing them over. I'm sorry. And I love Bruno. I think Bruno was probably one of the top premier performers and vocalists. But agree, this is likely like karaoke.

[A]

Earth, Wind and Fire was from Dyckman.

[B]

This is Cha Cha Cha.

[D]

There is not enough Dykeman on here.

[E]

Yeah, there's no Dykeman on here.

[A]

Is Cha Cha Cha Cha.

[C]

You like it, right?

[A]

One of my. One of my. One of the better records on here. To me, it feels familiar too. I hate this.

[E]

Some of the.

[A]

And I feel why you hate it. I totally feel.

[B]

It feels like a vacation, like a timeshare.

[A]

Rap.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

This is. This is the Cruise band, you know what I'm saying? In like the old folk section.

[E]

This is Las Vegas Review. I'm going to Vegas. I'm going to catch me a little show and they're gonna do all the sounds that I like to hear in one show.

[A]

They're gonna catch him. He don't pay that 50 million.

[D]

Great musicality.

[E]

It sounds amazing.

[D]

Great musicality, great mixing.

[E]

All that sounds amazing.

[D]

Top notch.

[B]

I'm gonna sit with that.

[E]

Yo, for Bruno to walk into the game, you wanna sit on that?

[A]

I'm gonna sit with that.

[B]

How about Pina Colada?

[E]

For Br. Bruno that entered the game and for me feel like he was one of the more original new artists, like his first couple of projects. EP joint to then jump into this shit where it feels like you're just going back and taking every sound from whatever generation and redoing it to me is just lazy.

[D]

Leave the DeLorean at home.

[A]

This comes off like parking next to

[B]

the Civic with Cole.

[D]

Yeah, please, please put that in the shop too.

[A]

This comes off like if you heard one, you heard them all and. And if you heard one, you heard them all.

[D]

I really did. Like, why you want to fight? I don't know if you want to play that one. That one was nice.

[A]

If you like it, I want to play it.

[D]

It was out of character from the Spanish esque vibe, but it was a really good soul. Soul flip.

[A]

This is.

[D]

This is beautiful music right here.

[A]

Here we go. Some 70s shoe ops.

[E]

Yo, if the Manhattans ain't on this, huh? I'm all right.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah, this the Long Island Cities. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember why I got pissed off. Why this song just reminded me what pissed me off off about him. He didn't go through no breakup. He didn't go through nothing that he's singing about.

[B]

On this album, maybe with the casino.

[A]

That's what I mean. Like, sometimes I see what you did there. Like, sometimes it feels like there's no depth for an artist, but he's singing about in a tone that nobody hurt you. Yeah, okay. When Sam Smith did Stay with Me.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You could tell his ex probably was hung like a horse. I want to be able to hear that in you. You want to hear that? Was hung.

[C]

No, he said, I want to hear that.

[A]

No, you want to hear that n the beat. No, but I want to hear that you have experienced whatever the you singing about. There's a. There's a pain has a texture, Joe.

[C]

It's a pain.

[A]

Has a texture.

[D]

What you say parks the unfilled face. You want to hear that you parks.

[E]

What's the shit you used to say about rappers when you listen to a nigga's catalog? Yes, you can rap, great. But what have you went through? What are you going through? How do you actually. What have you gone through in life? We don't know you. We don't know anything about you. That's how I feel about Bruno. I love his talent. To me, he's one of the most talented niggas in the game. What have you went through?

[A]

I love how he presents. I love how he gives black people the credit whenever there's a microphone in his face. Like, I love all. All of that. The music. It's time. It's time for it.

[D]

No, I love all his albums until this one. And the Soul Sonic was what's all

[A]

put out. An album and a half. Something about some all.

[E]

That's my point. You spaced out. You giving us these. These drops, everyone, the silk Sonic, I don't count at all. And to me, that's a whole nother karaoke album. Like I'm. Bro, can you get back to doing something that feels like it's you?

[A]

Why don't you go falling like love? Why don't you go far out of love? Why don't you go date a hoe? Why don't you catch something from one of the Vegas escorts out there? Like, why don't you. It's too much shit. It's too much shit that you could talk about in the realm of love for this clean cut shit to come on all the time. You know what it sounds like? It sounds like I could tell now when I hear a AI song. I could tell when they. Oh, all right. Bryson Tiller, Ariana Grande voice. And then there's some hard AI shit. This sounds like somebody did Bruno Mars AI.

[D]

And see, the musicality is too good for me to say that, but. But I get the sentiment.

[A]

Bruno Mars.

[B]

I get the sentiment.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I get the production. Him and what he's doing over a great band. And if you're gonna appropriate fucking Latin music and black music, a great band is a good place to start.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

So I ain't really giving him all the credit for that either.

[E]

The music sounds amazing.

[A]

And then we ain't gonna hear from this again till 2035 at least. So it's like nine songs that I could divide. It's one of these four or five. Yeah, there are four or five.

[C]

Is I really like. I would give this a B, you know, I mean.

[A]

Oh, hell no. Hell no.

[E]

Really?

[A]

Damn.

[B]

I didn't hear C right now.

[C]

It's a C. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

It doesn't sound like a C, man.

[C]

I think they raising. I think they have such a high bar art for Bruno because he's for sure. Yeah. But I think then we almost greatened because it wasn't classic. You know what I'm saying?

[E]

If I want, I'll go take my favorite 70s songs. I'll take some Carlo Santana. I can put a playlist together and I'll go listen to that. I don't need that from a Bruno album.

[D]

I got a whole room full of dramatics vinyls. Like, I don't like. I don't need this.

[C]

I got you.

[A]

That's fair.

[C]

I mean, I'm good. I get what y'. All. The same things y' all don't like about it. I also don't like about it. I just enjoy his voice in the production enough. It saves it for me. Even.

[D]

Even the Santana flip is just egregious and horrible.

[E]

Let's not get it fucked up vocally. It ain't too many people that can fuck with him.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So performance wise.

[C]

And it sounds great.

[A]

Can we see? Yeah. It don't take me from this to all this bullshit he doing now. They're like, come on, man.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

You know what this do in the. And I'm letting this rock a little bit. Cause it feels good. This feels good. You want to hear this? When you walk in the bar, if you stand outside the club and you hear this through the walls, you anxious to get in there. You know what they doing. Some tongue kissing is happening in there.

[D]

Need a white claw. Hey, for sure.

[A]

And everybody singing together tomorrow. Yeah. Ye. You know you've been there before.

[B]

Romcom songs, man.

[A]

Listen, man, I love it. It's.

[D]

He sounds good vocally. It's just the. The direction in general of the album to me, was a Ms. Bruno.

[A]

I'll never listen to this again. Yeah, same good. Good music, I guess. Great.

[D]

The musicality was great.

[A]

I see people on the Internet really enjoying it. Okay, good for you guys. I'm not. I'm never. This will never. I'm not.

[E]

That first song, to me, would have been perfect if. If in a perfect world, he goes and does the super bowl with Bad Bunny. If you want to break into this now, tapping into Latin sound, you go premiere that song at that moment at the wedding stage. Shit. You have a video right now where you have a stage wedding for that record. So all of this could have tied in a different way where it could have made more sense. It just, like I said, it just feels lazy. It just feels like I just go in the studio, the production's already laid out. I got my melodies already locked in.

[A]

Cool.

[E]

And I'm gonna sound great no matter what. Just doesn't feel like there's no real substance. No real substance to it. So if you're still gonna sell me it, sell me it in a different way that I could. Actually, actually, your name is Peter Hernandez, bro. If you going to be Spanish, be Spanish, bro. Just tap into this in a real way. It just feels like it's just.

[A]

His name is Peter, huh? Peter Hernandez. Yeah. Enough of this, Bruno. You white need to use your real names, Yo.

[E]

Puerto Rican, bro.

[A]

Yeah, make. Yeah, produce as Peter if you're going to do this. This is a real Peter album. This ain't Bruno Mars.

[D]

I need a little more Pedro on this.

[C]

Give me more Pedro.

[E]

I need Pedro on this, man. This ain't Peter Hernandez.

[A]

Oh, my Lord. All right, so I'm done with Bruno Mar. We know. We don't care. Yeah, we don't care. Big release. Good luck. I'm sure to do well. Mark, do you still feel like Bruno Mars Week 1 will sell more than J. Cole? We don't just.

[B]

It's all right.

[D]

Yeah, it's okay.

[A]

Let's bring back podcasters saying, you know what, man?

[D]

I was wrong.

[A]

I was off with that one. Maybe.

[C]

We'll see.

[A]

And if you're right, I'll take it back.

[E]

I. I don't know. We saying what we saying, but it

[C]

still might connect, be liking. I'm not as confident as I was, you know what I mean? For sure.

[A]

I see him putting 300 on that board.

[D]

Nah, he not putting 300.

[A]

300 on the board off this. Off that single, especially with nine songs.

[D]

Cole had 24 songs, whatever it was.

[E]

Yeah, I think we underestimating that Latin

[A]

Martin and a fresh oil change.

[D]

You think the Latin market is going

[B]

to run to this, huh?

[D]

You think the Latin American is going

[C]

to run to this?

[E]

I think. I think just tapping into it and giving people.

[C]

They here risk it all they might.

[E]

We're in this moment where people are championing.

[D]

I don't think he tapped in enough to. Well, Garner.

[E]

Maybe not.

[B]

They still on Bad Bunny?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

This don't even sound like he was Spanish bitches, yo. Seriously, it don't sound like no hips at all. This is.

[D]

This is hipless music for sure.

[A]

This ain't toto music at all. There was no homie hookah lit when this was being made. Zero. Not a pastel, no coquito, no. No Chipotle in the studio.

[C]

Taco Bell.

[A]

All right, I'm going to mute up while B Dot and Parks tell you about all the latest hip hop releases.

[B]

I didn't.

[D]

I didn't see that, man. The only thing I cop was they

[A]

the only two that even know when hip hop releases are. Are out. Oh, my God.

[D]

I think I cop was Boldy and Rome Streets. And I gave it one. Listen, I don't have no deep dive on it, but it sounded like what you expect to get from a Boldy and Rome Streets album.

[B]

I like the record.

[A]

They don't even sound excited with this hip hop.

[B]

I like the record Cheat the grind and like Biggie did off that. That project. Okay, yeah, that's pretty good.

[D]

I'm a little too. I just was Bruno focused this morning, so I only gave it one. One quick spin.

[B]

But there's a lot of new releases, a lot of collaborations. Juvenile, Megan, Thee, Stallion on the record, bbb.

[A]

That's hard.

[C]

That's a big one.

[A]

That is hard. Meg killed. That record was already hard prior to her getting on it. Shout out to Juvenile.

[B]

We got a new joint from Joyner Lucas and Kodak Black called Enemies. Kodak kills it.

[A]

I'll. I'll get around to that. I guess what you said earlier. I'll check that out. I'll sit with that DJ Paul.

[B]

Freddie Gibbs got a record called Find Out.

[D]

I do want to hear that. I'm gonna press play on that one.

[A]

Let's hear a little bit of that backpack, boys.

[B]

The verse from Freddy is really good.

[D]

Shout out to Paul, man.

[A]

Oh, three, six, you around and find out with me. Cause I'm the same that was turned as a team. Get your face shot the Off. Wow, wow, wow, wow. They love to send out. That's why I highly doubt that I can talk my and pop it. I'm really like that. Cause I'm my own boss and mark on dance boy but talk shit, see me and wait. Cause niggas ain't no damn fool. Niggas know I'm pain and know if they play with me, they ass gonna get placed down there in that dirt where they ass gonna lay sticking to the surf. Cause I don't fuck with certain niggas. How I feel today I might just hurt me a. I still don't want to believe I might just murk me

[G]

a go be circle A.

[A]

That's hard. This is hard.

[D]

This is hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Shout out to DJ Paul and I

[A]

know what gives about to do.

[D]

Yeah. And the whole 360.

[A]

That sounds great. Yeah, that sounds absolutely crazy.

[B]

I also heard new Swae Lee record.

[A]

Oh, let's hear a little bit of that.

[B]

It's called Flammable.

[A]

How is it?

[B]

It's decent. Some of the lines are kind of weak, but the musicality is not bad. It's pretty good.

[A]

I want to hear the musicality on this one. Parks, load up some musicality. Do I need my DJ voice for the new Sway Lee?

[D]

Let's see.

[A]

Oh, no, no, you good. No, you're good. No, I'm good. I'm good. Off the three seconds. Y. Yeah.

[C]

We back to judging music like that, right?

[F]

Like wildlife animals smoking artichoke paper like an article. I'm on Texaco watching cameras.

[A]

Extra woke. All right, turn this off. No, man. Turn this like a beat cd. We can turn that up, right? We can turn it on. Swaylee is my man. I don't doubt that he's coming with some heat at some point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This sound like it's from the black Beatles batch. This sound like he just ain't been outside in a little bit. He's finally getting his feet wet.

[D]

Not Mike Will.

[A]

So that.

[D]

That might have something.

[A]

And the last.

[B]

Last joint I heard was this British rapper and. And Dots beat up.

[A]

We don't.

[B]

I'm sorry. Absolutely no. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

I'm sorry, buddy.

[B]

I've gone too far.

[A]

I'm sorry. You can take. You take that, too. Extra off than I expected. Yeah, you could take that.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

Take that right to rap radar. There's a new British rapper out there eating up Britain

[B]

pork.

[A]

You know, the up. What if he's lit? Is he good? If he ain't good, you'll never be allowed to be Again, you want to play it? No.

[B]

Le Chopper's verse is good. That's why.

[D]

Don't worry about you.

[A]

Said British.

[B]

Your bloody wanker.

[A]

Yeah, I'll get. I'll get around. And some new old music or old new music, or however you want to word it. I finally got around to that IDK project.

[D]

That shit is tough, yo.

[B]

Very good.

[D]

That shit is tough. Shout to idk.

[A]

Wow. Very good.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Wow. Idk Amazing project. I want to play this black thought joint a little bit. Just because my niggas don't send me beats like this, man. The production on that IDK album, that whole album is really good.

[D]

Very good.

[A]

The features. He did it. This is crazy. The Monte, the day up money going down for the ones don't stay up Serving hand in hand Every dollar is a layup on the next. She out to step me up so they can hit me up Been bright as day the sunny since I sipped the sippy cup all the allegations, let's see the evidence if you ain't catch me in action it's irrelevant if you ain't catch me in emotion and I'm motionless They want to see me in a box don't want to see me dead they see it equal though I rather see the latter less the thought of breaking down amounts is at an

[E]

ounce of stress either way.

[A]

I hustle on a block. Like I said, this is hard. It's joints on it. And I love this hook. I love this hook.

[E]

I said, anyone pitch too? Boom, boom.

[A]

That should be. If you have not heard that IDK album, do yourself a favor. It's in your phone right now. It's hard.

[B]

Highly recommend.

[D]

You got a bunch of good projects too. If you're late, catch up.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Fire.

[A]

I love it. I know. The backpack hip hop, boy. Y' all good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I love that album. Actually, I'm planning on talking to him for my interview series next week. So I want to tap in with IDK Dope. And I love the who kid drops throughout the project, too.

[A]

Yeah, it's comforting. Yeah. Yeah. Comforting. Good work.

[B]

We gotta get DJ verified on the next one, man.

[A]

That's what we need out there in the street. Yo, give me my delay real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your thought, your thought still verified.

[B]

Verified.

[A]

All right. That's cool. Yeah. All right, so listen. New, old, old, new. Back when one of those challenges was going, one of those, you know, Tank always put out some R and B challenge or the R and B. One of those R and B challenges that was going on and it Was a bunch of up and coming R and B people doing them. I followed this young lady who absolutely smoked the challenge. I don't remember the challenge, but her name was Girlfriend.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And she went absolutely crazy on this challenge. So I hit follow cause I wanted to keep up with her. And she dropped a project and I want to play a little bit of it because R and B heads out there should know about music like this.

[E]

Say her name is Girlfriend.

[A]

Her name is Girlfriend. The name of the project is Honey Water. Came out earlier this month. And this is track one. This record is called Father Time. This whole project, 10 songs, 27 minutes. Real smooth. Listen, it's heat on here new girlfriend. It I could tell you secrets in a day I believe you Promise you won't say not no for the watch where we should make one yeah hey then hide it in a back back of my closet next to us Got a T that I tossed in but you don't care so tell me me did you fall from the sky? Know you from somewhere. I think time stops when I'm with you oh yeah N It's on there. It's on there. If you like this vibe, this the vibe of the whole project. That's.

[D]

That sounds good, Girlfriend.

[A]

And again, that girl, that Father Time track I just played. Two minutes, this track, three minutes, another track. Minute and a half. Like a smooth 27 minute. Listen, Sticky Situation and I know where this could go so I won't fall maybe cuz I think your favorite this is P. That's when you need it. Oh, how con first you just come. You get the point. This is Sticky Situation. That's Girlfriend. The album's in your phone right now. Trust me, it's heat on there. Check it out. Shout out to Girlfriend. Much love, much success. I love finding new up and coming heat.

[D]

Shout out to you.

[E]

She look good too.

[C]

I knew he was gonna do that. As soon as I look at the album.

[E]

You gotta. When you hear the voice, you got to go see what the person. Yeah, you got to. You got to just find out.

[B]

It's like when you read a good

[A]

book, you got to look at the

[B]

COVID you know there's no come on picture.

[A]

R and B is better when they're attractive.

[D]

Hell yeah.

[A]

R and B is better when they're attractive. The new Internet people keep trying to sneak out these really ugly R and B people that are talented, like with a voice. And then I'm looking at them with they crust on their mouth. That's why they don't put their face no Shape up. Stooping stupid ass Afro glasses broke. Lens crafters is all crooked on your face. They singing. They. They done set up a little tiny desk in their room. Like a tiny desk at a tiny desk. They killing that over there. Ugly R B. Shout out to ugly R B people, yo.

[C]

That's a fact.

[A]

That is not girlfriend. Her is fire. Check it out. Any other music that we need? Panel of experts. Panel of experts.

[E]

I think that's it.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

I think I'm done with music as well.

[D]

Unless you want to talk about the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.

[A]

Why not? Why not?

[D]

We can get that. We can get out the way.

[A]

Why not?

[E]

We have Lauryn Hill in there.

[D]

Lauren Hill is in there. Mariah. The full list. Yeah. Is Black Crows, Jeff Buckley. Rest in peace, Mariah. Phil Collins, who's in there already in as Genesis. Part of Genesis. But this is twice.

[A]

Phil should be in there. Twice.

[D]

Yeah, for sure. Melissa Etheridge, Lauren. Billy Idol. She should have been in there in excess.

[A]

Billy Idol. Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Iron Maiden is gonna finally make Gene Simmons happy. If they.

[A]

If they make it.

[E]

They should be

[D]

Joy Division, New Edition. Yeah, they should. That's first ballot.

[A]

Sure, sir.

[D]

Oasis.

[A]

Yes, sir. Pink.

[D]

Pink.

[A]

Who did not break up with her husband. You tmz.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

She gotta take that shade. Oh, look at my baby.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

No, not.

[A]

Oh, she. She deserve it. She did deserve it.

[D]

Shakira, Luther.

[A]

That's right.

[D]

And Wuang Clan.

[A]

It should be happy about. About that. Be in there. Rest in peace power. How many?

[D]

Rest in peace power. Yeah.

[C]

How many people.

[B]

How many people do they select per year?

[D]

That I don't know. I feel like it's usually.

[E]

Is it like seven?

[D]

I feel like it's somewhere in that range. Somewhere in the.

[B]

Put everybody in, man.

[D]

I mean, all these people deserve to be in.

[A]

Everybody he just named deserves to be in.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, Mariah is the third time. Her third nomination.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Mariah should have. Like, she should have been first, B.

[C]

That's why when you. That's why I made that sound. When that's who she pissed off. I forget who we were talking about. New Edition was a new addition. I made this. It was more like if Mariah's not making it the first ballot, some of these people who I absolutely think should be in there probably might not make it the first ballot.

[A]

Not.

[C]

Cause they shouldn't. They just. Not everybody ain't gonna make the cut. I can't believe Mariah.

[A]

But Mariah could not have made it because she flipped somebody to bird and told somebody to Suck her dick. I'm Mariah Carey.

[D]

Tommy Mottola.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Then there's that.

[D]

You know what?

[A]

Then there's that. Yeah.

[E]

And I do think New Edition this year would make sense with the run. The run that they've been doing, the tour and all that. So it would be perfect timing if

[D]

Billy Idol can wait. In Excess can wait.

[C]

In Excess can definitely wait.

[D]

Yeah. Pink can wait.

[E]

Shakira can wait.

[A]

If you've been to the New Edition show. This can't wait. This is time. Since this needs to get to it. Yo. Yeah. We can't just. Let's not put this one to the back.

[E]

Let's get our flowers.

[A]

Honestly, if you've been to that show. I'm sorry.

[C]

Five to seven performers each year make five to seven. So out of that, seven so they can cap. So there's gonna be tough choices.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I'll be honest. I know people probably don't want to hear. I do think Iron Maiden should be in there.

[D]

Of course.

[B]

Of course.

[E]

I do think Wu Tang will be perfect to be in there this year. Yeah.

[A]

They should be first ballot. Yeah, I agree.

[C]

I think Lauryn Hill should be first ballot.

[D]

I think New Edition. Wu Tang.

[E]

I think Lauryn can wait.

[D]

Lauren.

[A]

Lauren can wait a second.

[E]

Sad Day should win.

[B]

She'll be late.

[A]

Anyway, about Zay.

[C]

Just tell us there's this year Shade should.

[E]

I think Melissa Ed should definitely make it.

[A]

Yeah. Wait a second too. Yeah. Go get a cup of coffee.

[B]

Billy, Ida could. Should have been in the 80s, man.

[A]

I don't know that. Yeah.

[B]

White wedding.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah. Billy, Ida was him.

[C]

This might be a white year then. You can't tell. Phil Collins know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Phil Collins got to get it.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You can tell.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I will politely ask you to leave.

[E]

Listen, I'm not saying he should.

[A]

We don't do that to Phil.

[E]

I'm not saying Phil is my.

[A]

I with Phil.

[E]

But the fact that he's already in there. Maybe they might say. Okay, just hold on. This year, we'll.

[C]

We'll.

[D]

That's the first battle guy.

[A]

No, Genesis is in there.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

I could see him maybe doing that just to appease some other.

[A]

But I'm with you.

[C]

Phil should be in it.

[A]

That's Phil, though.

[D]

And I think Phil is not in the greatest of health, so he should get in.

[E]

Oh, really?

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

All right.

[E]

That's all right.

[A]

You just made me really sad.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[A]

I didn't know that.

[D]

I'm sorry. Prayers up to Phil.

[B]

Damn.

[E]

Prayers to Phil.

[C]

I think this is gonna be a white year.

[A]

I think it's prayers up to Phil. Prayers up to Bruce Willis, too. I've been thinking about him a lot. Thinking about him a lot. All of the OGs, man, that's out there fighting these silent battles or public battles. I love y', all, man. What you think about Chino xl? Rest in peace, Chino xl. I recently learned that two of the good brothers from Con Costra. What's the name of the group with the four at the table?

[B]

Contra.

[A]

Yeah, I just learned. I just learned that two of them was Rascast. I have no idea.

[C]

Makes sense.

[A]

Yo, take my perks. Take my hip hop card, buddy. I don't want it. I don't want this. I told you a long time ago,

[D]

don't you start.

[A]

Yachty, come on. Yo, we got new Yachty Freestyle. Do I need my delay? No. Do I need my dj Boys, make your dry.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, it didn't go. Do y' all want to get into this Yachty conversation and shout out to all the people that are nominated into the Rock and Roll hall fame, whether you make it or not? Huge accomplishment.

[D]

All legends.

[A]

Lil Yachty is pissing people off yet again. Yeah, he went on that white boys podcast that I like boys. I said I like.

[B]

Oh, okay. Just making sure.

[E]

But why we had to.

[A]

Why we had to leave? Well, it's still Black History Month. If I didn't like him, what the

[C]

fuck is the problem?

[A]

Yeah, I still got a date or not. And I fuck with him if I didn't. But I like Boulevard.

[D]

Okay, we did.

[A]

I like the work that he does. Great interview style. He always gets a fact over there. He gets a fact. He's the one that. He's the one that unearthed big books, didn't really go to college or never really got the college scholarship, which is one of my favorite interview moments ever.

[C]

It's the greatest interview moment, the biggest lie ever.

[A]

So Yachty went over there to Kev show and had some choice words for pioneers of hip hop. Let me find. Let me find this. Yachty is my man. So I don't want to really talk too bad about him, but I am. But I am.

[B]

It's deserving.

[C]

He deserves this one for sure.

[B]

And I like Yachty, too.

[D]

Go ahead and play it, man. I'll wait.

[A]

You got to say second.

[B]

Go ahead. I went to Yachty's house two, three years ago. He invited me and Elliot over to do an interview, talk to his mom. Really Hospitable people. So I have, like, a sore spot in my heart for Yachty, but. But wrong is wrong. But wrong is wrong, man.

[D]

Like, I think he was. I don't think he was all the way wrong in there. He was just wrong in sort of the bigger picture.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

In this. In this.

[A]

I got it for y'. All.

[F]

But it's so crazy. I remember in 2016, before I did my research, I didn't know this if it was 2016. I knew it was so much in the 90s, I'd be like, yo, y' all tripping.

[D]

He's not wrong.

[F]

There's a lot of weak ass going on there. I think about all the time. I always think about the first song in hip hop. I hope this don't frighten me. Probably will. And I always think about a hip

[C]

a hop, a hip rap,

[B]

and I'll

[F]

be thinking like, damn, bro. Y' all be really acting like we just got down. Like we got damn. Just couldn't. Like we was the only saying.

[A]

Some didn't make no sense.

[F]

Hipping and hopping in.

[A]

Come on, bro.

[F]

That was weak as hell, bro. Like, be acting like, bro. Come on. Yeah, I do unsu my brother to the story. And I went in the green that grocery store with.

[D]

Come on, bro.

[F]

Y acting like that wasn't weak. That was dop, bro. Acting like we was the only ones that made some crazy. I think I agree with you. I do think that there was more intention. Probably right. You had more. You had a dmx and you had a bus and you had a Tupac. You had all these.

[A]

Yeah, all these.

[F]

Of course, you know. Yes, all. You had all these. Prodigy and M Deep, you.

[A]

So you.

[E]

This nigga's crazy, y'.

[A]

All. Now, what you hear is not a test. I'm rocking to the beat. It's just me, the crew, and my friends. They're gonna try to move your feet. See, I am wonder M and I like to say hello Let me to the white, the red and the brown the purple and yellow I got a bang bang Listen, listen, listen. Y. Are you playing the 15 version? Yeah, I am. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I am. Yo, he's tripping. This is where Yach's wrong. That's where Yach's wrong. Ch. Trust me, as somebody that was just at the Nick game and Sugar Hill Gang was the halftime show. Like, I came in here and told y', all, yeah, it goes up still. Still. All of those records that they have. Don't let him hit the other one.

[D]

This is where Yachty's wrong is that record was never praised for its lyrical prowess.

[A]

Right.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? And the part that he's quoting is not the rhyme part.

[A]

It's.

[D]

It's like the routine part before the rhyme.

[A]

Yeah, but that's also where he's wrong. That part is how rap started at the. That part is what got the party jumping in 78. That's the routine.

[C]

That's the big bang.

[A]

Yes. That was at that point. That was the big bang. That was the big bang.

[B]

And the record still holds up after all these years. In fact, I remember, I think I was really introduced to it back in like 97. Remember when def Squad did a cover? I was like, okay, I like this record. That's old.

[A]

They don't know about that.

[B]

Young blood. I was like, oh, okay. I didn't know I had to do my Googles. But the record holds up.

[E]

At the time it came out, that was revolutionary.

[A]

It was.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

He talking like when it came out, there was other things out there to match.

[C]

Like literally that first rap single. Yeah.

[A]

When you knew niggas was trash. There was technology. Right, Right.

[D]

Like impress bad songs that you could listen to and get ideas from about making sense.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't like his, his, his, his, his comparison of. If that's what they was doing back then, why do you have a problem what we doing now?

[D]

It wasn't even hip hop yet.

[C]

That's stupid.

[D]

It wasn't even hip hop yet.

[A]

No.

[C]

And that's part of the point too, right? If you're not a student of hip hop and you don't understand that MCN at that point was a local event. It was about getting a party started. And what they was doing was, was getting a party started. It wasn't. It was a 15 minute song.

[A]

Right.

[C]

You know what I mean? It was made for a whole different purpose. You know what I mean? And also it's like, like you said, there's nothing to compare it to. It's like watching Dr. J dunk now and then compare it to the slam dunk contest. His dunks is basic. Like, what the fuck? That's the blueprint. It's easy to build on some shit once it's already made. They were making something out of nothing.

[D]

It's like watching a Charlie Chaplin movie, comparing it to fucking avengers.

[B]

This first iPhone sucks.

[C]

It's saying it's basic.

[A]

Right, right. And I want to reiterate. You can't, you can't. You yachty can't get on stage with these Guys today. Today they have a hard set to follow. If you don't have a set chock full of classics.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Rest in peace, Big.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't like you trying to go back to any generation and call something weak. When you and your generation and people consider you weak, you not the person to say this.

[D]

Especially followed up with that freestyle.

[A]

Anybody could have an opinion.

[C]

Cool, great.

[E]

And now we gonna dog you for it, nigga. You can't say this. You can't. Because in your generation, you are considered weak. I'm sorry. Whether, like, I. I don't really listen to his music. I'm not saying he's weak, but the general Weak. The general consensus. When you talk about Lil Yachty as a rapper, no one is saying he's a strong rapper. No one's saying that he is lyrical.

[C]

He's not an elite rapper. Yeah, no, I'm with you.

[A]

Yeah, Stop, stop. Mark. No, I'm just sitting next to a rapper. Don't insult me. Now he's gonna say, like, elite.

[C]

I said he's not elite. I'm a.

[A]

We know. But there's a lot of other words.

[D]

There's a lot of people.

[A]

Hold on. There's a lot of words underneath.

[C]

There's a lot of Average rapper. Is that fair?

[E]

There's some people that feel like I would say that.

[C]

I don't want to put him like. Cuz he's almost saying like, he's trash. Like, he's below.

[E]

No, I'm not. I'm not saying that.

[A]

I say he don't know enough about him.

[D]

I listen to Yachty's music. I like when he does experimental. But as far as rapping itself, he's not a good.

[A]

This is like when I said. This is like when I said, will, I am. Can't say what he said about. Who'd he say that about? Jay Z. Yeah.

[E]

He said black thought.

[A]

You can't say that about Jay. You specifically can't say that about Jay Z. Yachty. If this were his first occurrence or first grievance with him, then maybe I'd give him a pass. It seems like every time he has something negative to say about hip hop, it's about New York hip hop or New York fashion or New York artists. It's never nowhere else.

[E]

When did this arrogance start with him?

[A]

People are mad with New York. Oh, with him, you're saying with him, he deserves to be arrogant. Him and Drake have pina colada on the beach, nigga.

[C]

Cool.

[E]

I'm with you.

[A]

Right.

[E]

But it does feel like for Someone that, to me, hasn't really made a big musical stance within hip hop. Now, don't get me wrong, you have a fan base. People like you. You're fashionable. Crate get all that. And successful and successful, Very successful. But when you speak about the actual art form, you speak with a level of arrogance, as if you've presented something like, of elite level.

[A]

I'm with you.

[E]

It's kind of like you should kind of just.

[C]

You ain't got no stripes to be in this concert. Yeah, I honestly feel like people wouldn't have stripes, would never say no shit like that.

[B]

I feel like the watershed moment that happened where Yachty got this, like, bravado, was like that J. Cole song that they had the recipe.

[A]

Good point.

[C]

Yeah, good point.

[B]

I think J. Cole kind of validated Yachty, and from there, Yachty's kind of been on this, like, arrogant kind of spiel, you know what I mean? With saying things like about the sugar.

[A]

And I think niggas that are that age and that rich are arrogant.

[B]

Yachty's a grown man. Like, he's 28. I believe he is.

[C]

It's young and arrogant.

[E]

It's still levels of young and arrogant. And I'm not mad at it. Like, yeah, like, I'm just trying to figure out, you might have pointed out for me, when did it start to where he felt discomfortable. Speaking about the art, as much as we might not think it's the greatest lyrical shit, anybody within the rap space music space should never, never have anything negative to say about sugar. You just shouldn't.

[A]

You should have picked another group.

[E]

Pick something else.

[C]

Pick.

[A]

Pick a group that wasn't so world. World famous right after that. Around from the same era on somebody else.

[D]

No, go to the 90s and the. That you started off with.

[A]

Because he's right.

[D]

There is bad music from the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s. There's mad you can pick on to use your point without having to go to the very first rap song that isn't even considered a rap song at the time.

[C]

Right.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's, it's baseless in my opinion.

[B]

Always have this text.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And no other genre does that, yo. I mean, I, I just hate it too. Like, no new rock group is going around doing that. No country music going. And I'm not even saying we have to be like anybody else. I'm just saying, like, there's a model of respecting your architects, respecting your, your forefathers and foremothers in Every genre, just let's follow it and then don't do

[E]

that and go up there and then freestyle and.

[C]

Yeah, come on, come on.

[B]

It really grinds my gears when I hear, like, newer generation artists talk bad about, like, songs from the 80s and artists from the 80s. Like, do you not hear the same thing I'm hearing? Like, when you hear Rakim or Big Daddy Kane or Slick Rick? Like, don't you hear the level of lyricism?

[D]

He ain't bringing this.

[C]

He ain't saying that. No, I'm just saying G rap or somebody like that. That's a whole different conversation.

[B]

Cause, like, do your ears register the same way? I don't know.

[A]

I'm with you. If you could say that about Sugar Hill Gang, right, then you could say it about a Gucci rap. They were saying some blasphemous shit about Big at one point. They've been saying it about niggas.

[E]

If you do enough of your research on who actually wrote Sugar Hill Gang, you would know that, like, don't talk about Grandmaster Kaz like, he's a songwriter, not just a rapper. That is not a lyrical rap song. That is a song that just happens to fall under the guise of rap.

[A]

Yo, real quick, let me get my DJ voice. This.

[D]

Come on, man.

[B]

DJ Verified.

[D]

Oh, you better.

[A]

Better not be that yachty.

[D]

Freestyle.

[A]

World famous, world famous DJ Verified. Once again, once again, once again. Belt to ass. Volume three, volume three, volume three. Here go one of these. New weirdo with a new style for you. Style for you. Down for you, man.

[G]

Let's get the people what they came to see.

[E]

Just incredibles.

[A]

Freestyle series. Let's get.

[F]

They got 100 things going on and really got time to keep this. Shout out, Don. Shout out, qu.

[A]

But it's still for the heart.

[B]

All right, I'm with it.

[A]

Let's sit on the ones and twos. I'm with it there.

[F]

Me and I work the D. Work my mouth so listen when I speak. Moving like a southern cracker.

[D]

This is the ass in the bell

[A]

to Ass, Volume three. Nah, don't do that to a good show, right? Don't do that to Lil Bo. I with Bo.

[D]

I with Bo, too, but this is not good accent.

[F]

J killed the kids. I'm too convinced it was an accent.

[A]

All right, he does heat up as it. You got to sit with it like a hot pocket grows on you. You got. You got to sit with that.

[B]

Put that back in the microwave.

[A]

Yeah, this is like splendid Hill. This is like splendid. Equal. Equal hill in this bitch. Saluta Yachty, though, he.

[E]

I mean, he got a. No, no, no. He has a place in hip hop. And we not trying to say, like, you shouldn't be able to voice, but there's a respectful way to get your point across. This was a hard way to get his album.

[D]

Let's start here. Was amazing. He's made good music and it wasn't much rapping.

[A]

It's on us as old heads and old OGs and veterans. It's on us to be responsible for. For how the communication goes between younger and older artists. We can't just hear the young niggas get out there and say something reckless and then respond reckless. That doesn't breed grounds for learning or ground for fucking information sharing. Like, it's just not so. I don't wanna shit on yachty. In 2017, I'd have came in and shit on Yachty. Yachty has some wild and obscure views. Views that are difficult to hear if you are a New Yorker. New Yorker. Or from this area or just a hip hop head. Or just love hip hop. Yeah. Or love this shit. So I'm gonna give him some grace. Hopefully he'll come around to it. Hopefully he'll come around to it at some point. Hopefully an older person, an auntie or somebody will come and just school him. Yachty. I'll keep you in my prayers in the meantime, nigga. And keep New York out your fucking mouth, man. Watch yourself.

[E]

That's a fact.

[A]

Cause also to see what you might know. The Sugar Hill Gang, if they wasn't just. Just rappers either. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

There's a name in there you might

[C]

want to pay attention.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

The Ladder. Yeah, the Ladder.

[A]

Yeah. And them are still diesel at 70, so you with them.

[E]

And they got nephews too.

[A]

Yeah, word, that. That. That group chat. They in there with Guy Fiser. They in there with the Heads. Pappy M. Oh, God. You don't fuck with them. Okay, what else? What else needs our urgent attention? I can't lie to you, fellas. I've really enjoyed all of this. Music breakdown. Music nerd. It was good. Yeah. I absolutely love it, man. Panel of experts, panel of experts. What else needs our attention?

[C]

I don't know if you want to pay attention to this, you know, because I know you don't be in the Twitter streets, but. You saw it. Did you see it?

[E]

I think I know what you told Mom. I think I saw something too.

[C]

They don't take him serious no more.

[E]

They don't respect this nigga.

[C]

They don't Respect it.

[A]

Are y' all bringing mess to my front door while I've been uber focused?

[E]

This should get you more focused.

[A]

Nah, can't nothing get me more focused. I'm a Virgo.

[E]

Well, I am too, so I feel like I understand what you're saying.

[A]

Arrested development, though.

[E]

I'm an arrested development on your end Virgo.

[A]

You're not a developed, fully developed Virgo you like.

[E]

But I feel like of late, a lot of people have, like, probably like, assuming that there's some chinks in the Joe Button armor or some type of thing, or maybe you don't have the influence that you once had before, or maybe you never had it. Maybe it's really credited to other people.

[A]

I'm listening.

[C]

Maybe scared.

[E]

Maybe it's just.

[C]

Yeah, let's tell people what it is.

[A]

So I'm listening.

[C]

So you start talking about the Nori interview, right?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, he did a really.

[A]

My brother. My Virgo brother Nori. Shout out to Nori run shit champs. Yeah.

[C]

Yes. He also has a really powerful show. Drink champs.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

That he says set the blueprint for all the podcasts.

[E]

Rappers turned podcast.

[C]

Rappers turned podcast. He made one good point, which was people clown him at the beginning and now you. All your favorite rappers got podcasts, but he's saying it's because of him.

[E]

What do you. How do you feel about that?

[A]

Well, I don't, like, feel anything about it. If it don't apply, let it fly. That. That doesn't apply to me. He wasn't talking to me. I think he's talking to all of the rappers who do interview based podcasts, which is most of them, actually. I'm the exception again. Always being the exception, man. It's tough.

[C]

See how he's being mature, money. He's trying to be mature.

[A]

I'm just telling y' all that Nori wasn't talking.

[E]

I didn't. I didn't say he was talking to you.

[A]

He wasn't talking about me.

[B]

He wasn't thinking about me.

[E]

But you weren't even considered.

[A]

That's my brother.

[E]

No, no, no. Maybe you weren't even considered because probably. Probably what he's saying is that the rappers turn podcasters were like, like rapper rappers. Like rappers who were like, really, like, stamped in that field.

[C]

That's what I hear him saying.

[A]

I want to hear what y' all saying. This Aisha Diaz pictures. I ain't even listening.

[C]

Aisha Diaz.

[B]

Who's that?

[A]

It's the picture you was just looking at that you told me on break where you told me to like it for the boat, you said. Look at that third slide.

[C]

That one.

[A]

Exactly. I think y' all are trying to start trouble. So I'm going to call my good brother Nori. Let's see if he still answers my call.

[B]

Uhoh.

[A]

Change number. Let's see if he still answer my call. Now, Nori came up here with me last time and was talking, and then Cam got on me and his ass. Every time Nori get with me. Talk about some hello, my good brother Noriega, huh? Half. Half of the legendary and iconic cnn Capone and Noriega. Some people say Noriega, who has a few of the best Pharrell beats ever made. Noriega. Noriega, one of the first. One of the first rapper podcasters. Nori, I'm live on air, and my co host, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill and Amber are trying to tell me that you were sending shots at me. And they trying to cause division. They say that you said you the first rapper pod. All the other rapper pods is trash, and they want me to come on air and shoot at you. And I told them that's my Virgo brother, number one. Number two, I don't think he was talking about me, but they insist that you were. So could you tell these brothers that I'm God body, that we are brothers? There's no division like Mark. Mark and the money right here.

[C]

Yo, y' all there.

[A]

Y.

[E]

You doing a lot. You doing a lot of qualifying?

[A]

Yeah, it's called qualifying. Go ahead. Go ahead, y'.

[C]

All. Brother, what up?

[A]

Good brother. Oh, I took the thing out. I took this thing out. My bad, my bad. Oh, my God. My name was patriotic. Oh, where'd he go?

[B]

Technical difficulty. Oh, I banged it.

[A]

I'm sorry. I banged it. That's convenient. Call him back.

[C]

Right? Likely story, right?

[E]

Right when we about to talk.

[A]

All right, we back. My bad. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All good. All good. All right. Mark and Imani are right here. Could you say something to these brothers? Because they're trying to divide black men on the last day of black history.

[E]

Nori, make it. Nori, make it. Make it. Make it clear that you don't even really qualify Joe in that conversation. Cause he wasn't really, like, a rapper rapper. Like, he wouldn't be, you know, like, he wasn't like, a success.

[C]

Like, he talking about, like, a list rappers.

[E]

Yeah, we talking about a list rappers.

[A]

There you go. I mean, I went gold and had a huge single in 2003, that's Peace. I mean, it still plays today. 10 more years. I'll get the rights back to it. I mean, what's your slap, Imani? Oh, what's your again? I mean, since there's levels to it.

[E]

Hold on.

[A]

See, now, hold on, hold on. Now the division work. Now the division. Let's do it. All right, you had the slap.

[E]

Don't get me wrong. You had the slap. But why they don't put your name on the screen in MSG like they do with all the other rap niggas that sit there? Like, when Nori sit there, they put

[C]

his shoe Nori there.

[A]

When Fat Joe there, they put his shit there. Nori. You hear how they speak to me? I hired these brothers. You hear how they speak to me? Like I'm gum on the bottom of a shoe. That's good job, too. But, Nora, you ain't told him yet that you wasn't talking about me.

[C]

I definitely wasn't, man. You know what?

[B]

That's peace.

[C]

You know, I've just stayed off the Internet a couple of days, you know what I mean? Just chilling. I hate when I go viral for the wrong reasons.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

But the same way I like, I like it. Same way I like it when it benefits me, I gotta like it when it doesn't benefit me. You know what I mean? And I say it clearly, and every time I say it, people take offense to it. I say that we was the first people that made podcasting our first rappers. Excuse me, first rappers. Because we're not the first tea.

[A]

That's a nice tea.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? We're not the first people that was parted, but we're the first rappers who made it cool that was parted, like. And I credit that always to you drink champs and a million dollars worth of game. And I realized I got to stop saying that because I realized a lot of you can take that personal and you don't say.

[E]

Even though.

[C]

Even though it's the fact. You know what I'm saying? I realize a lot of people take it personal. And I realize sometimes when I word things, people. People misquote me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? I'm looking at these comments, and people was like, you know, Nori's mad at Jada and Joe. Like, if I get married right now, it would be. And, yeah, so, I mean, I spoke to them, obviously, you know, just to make sure that they ain't know, but, you know, the Internet is crazy. The Internet will always try to and make it something else, but I love it. I love it when I love it, so I gotta love it even when I hate it.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

But I respect that.

[A]

Nori.

[C]

It's just before I always heard you say, like, you know, million dollars worth of game Joe and you, it just seemed like you etched his name out and put Nori on top. Like it was just you this last time. Is that fair? No, no, no, no. You definitely didn't watch the same interview then. Yeah, yeah, because I, I only watched the messy part.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And it wasn't messy. It was me being funny. If you look at the that part, I'm smirking throughout the whole time.

[A]

I'm joking.

[C]

And you know what it is like, the way I, I joke with Joe and I joke with Jada off camera, may not be, May not look like that on camera, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, I was definitely joking and I definitely wasn't talking about. Like I said, I always credit the rapper part of the part to us

[A]

three, you know what I'm saying? I stand by that. Nora, I apologize for you even having to explain that honestly, cuz you took talking to like, some novices right now. These guys, look it up. You're talking to some pod novices. These brothers just started a patreon. These brothers just started producing content, owning their own ip. So, like, they looking up, they looking up, trying to divide at the top. Nori is my queen's brother. We probably one of the first tours I ever went on Def Jam.

[C]

That's right.

[E]

Keep bigging them up.

[A]

We both killing in the, like. No, that's right. They can't anybody else, man. Come on. That's right.

[C]

But you know, you know what I do like about, you know, being missed, quoted or misunderstood is it does show where the snakes come out.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, you know, I mean, like, when you like, especially like people, like, people

[A]

are stupid, they should know that Joe and Jada is my brothers.

[C]

So anybody who came out and was like, hey, man, look at Nori talking about Joe and Jada, they stupid. Because now I know how you feel, Bozo.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Like, now I know to how, how you feel. Like, these are really my, like, my friends and my brothers and like my, my family members and.

[A]

Yeah,

[C]

yeah, yeah, yeah. But for me to see, like, people jump out the window and like, try to start or start or instigate something, it was really like, oh, okay, now I know who everybody is.

[A]

Now I.

[C]

Now I cut the grass and I see this. Today's show, but definitely not.

[A]

Man, y' all better. Y' all better stop out there trying to instigate things between Noriega and these other fucking podcasts. Podcasters. Now, as far as me, I'm protected by God and a rosary. Like, don't talk. Don't say nothing about me. I think I'm looking in the camera. No, I ain't talking to you. I think all you niggas is my sons. And the only nigga that can talk to me about this is no longer here on Earth. His name is Combat Jack. May he rest in in peace. That's all I got. If I happen to go to sleep tonight and have a dream like Martin and Combat Jack get to talking. I'm fly with that. But outside of my Virgo brother Nori, y', all and. And these. These podcast competitions, everybody is my son. Every last one of. Unless you're not. Nori is not. All of these other new. Yeah, check them up.

[E]

Let's talk.

[A]

Yeah, it's out of. Yeah. I don't care who get mad Nor friends with these. Is y' all talking about every time I get souped up.

[D]

Thank y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Let come see y' all purchase.

[A]

Hey, yo, Nor, we love you, man. Oh, B. Do is here.

[B]

Yeah, Nor, what's up?

[A]

Oh, I did it again. Oops. Hold on, Nori. All right, we got it. We back beat out.

[C]

Is here.

[A]

Nori.

[B]

Nori. What's up, man?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I've been watching you online doing your thing, man. Thank you, man. Continue to do it, Elliot getting better. Yep.

[C]

I heard. I heard Free Elliot Wilson shout out

[A]

to my guy, Elliot. We love him.

[C]

All right. Y. Y All right, y'. All Done deal, man. Appreciate y.

[A]

Wait, Peter, I had a question for you. I did it. What's up, Nor, we love you. Go back to. Go back to millions, man. Bye. What up? Water sound rich now? What were your brother saying?

[E]

Oh, now, we cleared it up.

[C]

We wanted to give you a pep talk. He wants you to feel a little better because you.

[E]

You see how your bravado got like. You see how you got back into yourself?

[A]

Well, y' all talking about people in my peer group. Who's in y' all pod peer group?

[E]

Me, Gris and a Julian and shout out to.

[A]

That's my man. That's my man. Killing it. Don't say nothing. Who else?

[E]

I have a Patreon.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Right? You can't even. No names even. No names even, right?

[C]

It's a blur.

[A]

It's all blur.

[E]

Worried about what's going on out there.

[A]

It's all a blur.

[E]

That's it, you know?

[A]

Yo, shout out to everybody out there with a podcast or shooting some content or streaming or just in your bag trying not to fucking work for the man for the next 10 to 15 years, man. Go get in your bag. It is possible. It is all possible. Let myself and Nori be examples of that. And for the people still trying, let Imani and Mark be example to that. All right?

[C]

See how disrespectful he get?

[A]

What else we got going? We got you.

[E]

Don't worry.

[B]

We got you. JBP Bullets, man.

[A]

Only when they shoot at me, though. Only when they shoot. He's my brother.

[E]

You got to get shot at once in a while.

[A]

I know. I got to sit with it. All right, the time has finally come for our Aisha D. Diaz. About time segment of the show.

[C]

Remember who she is again. I can't.

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Aisha Diaz. The name sounds familiar.

[A]

Go look up.

[C]

He did.

[E]

Open your phone.

[A]

It's in his cookies.

[E]

Go back to your Instagram.

[A]

Damn, that's heat right there.

[C]

That's the po. That's the pool pick. No, this is his new speech from Barack Obama.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

You got that memorized?

[A]

You got the great memories.

[C]

Frame six.

[A]

So Aisha Diaz went on Rashad Troy and Ian Dunlap's podcast.

[D]

Makes sense.

[A]

And they had a really good conversation.

[B]

But people might not know who Aisha Diaz is, though, Joe, you might have to explain who she is.

[A]

Aisha Diaz is a New York City beautiful girl. Legend of star tender fame, of music video fame. And she's just a really, really, really gorgeous young lady from New York City. If you're from New York, you know her well.

[E]

And she's cool. Nice person.

[A]

Super cool.

[E]

Mad cool.

[A]

She's a sweetheart. In recent years. In recent years, she's made headlines. I remember when she was with homeboy and it was his birthday or something, and. And he kidnapped her. He hid her passport, and she fell in love. The fuck.

[E]

Niggas gotta get back to that, you

[C]

know what I'm saying?

[A]

Some Patty Hearst shit, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Listen, you ain't going home, girl.

[A]

You know where you at. You can't leave. Yo, that Eyl interview was so great. I went to dig up the kidnap story again. I did.

[D]

That's love, right?

[A]

Yes. Yes, it is love. Here it goes right here. I'm gonna read it again.

[D]

Marcus still just.

[A]

Aisha Diaz says.

[F]

I don't.

[A]

I don't blame him. Listen, these pictures, he looking at If I had a spear 40 grand. A spear 40. If I wasn't building a house for me and my baby. I love you, baby.

[B]

Let me see the picture.

[C]

All right.

[A]

This here.

[D]

Build a guest house.

[E]

How many Patreon subscribers you need to get?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

To be able to offer. Listen. 40. Don't.

[A]

These pictures that Mark is looking at. I can find the 40, right? I can find the 40. Aisha Diaz said, for so many. Now, look. Look at me. Went from blocking you before we even dated to waking up next to you every day. Went from hell no to being your girlfriend to you moving me in within months.

[D]

This is romance.

[A]

I would do the same about seeing the pictures Mark looking at. She continues. I remember watching you closely and thinking to myself, wtf? Why does he want me? For what I'm nothing close to what he's used to. Dealing with Ratchet with loud, obnoxious, and out there I am the complete opposite. So why me, Daniel? Still. Eat your heart out, Imani.

[E]

Go ahead.

[A]

The dedication and pressure you applied from before you even met me was something no one could ignore. But the more pressure you applied, the more scared I got. To get to know you. Best thing that happened was getting stuck with you for weeks and weeks. Mexico. After you had hid my passport and acted like I lost it. Lol.

[E]

Is it the big lol?

[A]

The capitalized exclamation point. A ghetto version of the movie. 365 days. This day, Just like that, While you kept me in Mexico hostage. I got to see the man without the jewelry, without the cars. No. No money, no gifts. Just you in your Jesus sandals, your shorts, and your personality. This is Stockholms. This is Stockholms. I got to know the family man who's funny, dedicated, and smart. You're everything I wish for, baby. And if I had to do it again, I would answer you smart sooner and hide my own passport to be stuck with me. Come on, y'. All. Snaps. Come on. Snaps. So let me play this clip because this clip has the Internet going wild. I'm so mad that she didn't come up here and say this, but let's get to it.

[E]

Your relationship status is now.

[A]

But what do you expect on a

[E]

monthly basis from financially.

[H]

From him?

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

Honestly, I'm spoiled.

[A]

Oh, no.

[G]

As soon as they said a spoil,

[A]

it's gonna be a ticket. What's that mean? What's that range?

[E]

Because.

[A]

Because it's good insight.

[E]

Because, you know, we just have these

[B]

hypothetical conversations all the time, but just somebody that's that.

[A]

You're, like, in the top 1% of girls.

[E]

That's actually.

[B]

You're.

[A]

You're exposed to that life.

[C]

Right?

[E]

Like so.

[A]

Yeah. What is.

[B]

You say you're spoiled. What is. What does that mean?

[H]

Smile means I need you to be able to keep up with my lifestyle if you want to be with me.

[B]

Ladies, take notes.

[G]

Take notes because it'll work on the simp.

[A]

I have a lifestyle I expect to keep myself.

[H]

You should be able to do it for me, too. And if I can't depend on you to be able to handle what I have on my plate, then there's no reason for me and you to be together.

[E]

Your relationship status is now.

[H]

But that mean I'm going to have to be looking out after you.

[A]

What about love? What did that mean? What about see her face when you said that to me on a monthly.

[E]

What's that mean?

[A]

Roughly. Roughly.

[H]

Numbers.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[H]

Like 45, 50.

[A]

50. $50,000 a month. So you need $50,000 a month. What Is true.

[H]

I can give you the paperwork right now.

[A]

She's not getting it. But hold on. You got a contract.

[H]

Listen, you sign.

[B]

They sign contracts.

[H]

But listen. But if you allow me, let's say my partner doesn't allow me to work, I am going to look at you and say, are you paying all my bills? Because in order for me to sit down, somebody have to pay all my bills. And not just my bills. I need extra money because you can't give me my bill money. And then I'm looking.

[A]

Yep.

[H]

And. And that's. Honestly, that's what really becomes expensive, because my bills alone are already really high.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

So I need a little bit more. Not just for hair and nails. And I mean, I'm gonna have to be looking out after you.

[A]

What about love? And there you have it. That was New York City legend Aisha Diaz. Now, she went further.

[E]

She's been responding to the criticism.

[A]

She went further because she don't like how y' all talking about her on the Internet. And she went on to explain some of her thought process. Like to hear it. Here it goes. And she looking fine in this shit. She explaining it, of course. A little off white silk. I'm telling you, man. She got a shirt on. Yeah, she has a shirt on.

[E]

Oh, and I just see the face. I just. I ain't see that part.

[A]

I'm telling you, we could pull 40k together. Count me out and share.

[D]

Wouldn't be the first.

[A]

Wouldn't be the first. Now he's so offended at sharing. That was your bag.

[E]

No, that was not my bag.

[A]

Your middle name was your.

[E]

No, it was not.

[A]

No, that's my bad. Your Wikipedia lie. Oh, here we go.

[H]

The number, if it's okay. So I got off the phone with my friend, and this is listen to my podcast. A lot of you guys are not listening. You're only hearing the number. You're really not listening. And like I said on the podcast, what we find normal. The nighttime girls might not be normal for you.

[D]

That's what Britney said too.

[H]

But for us, she did. It's regular. Seeing 50, $60,000. It is a regular thing for us per month. Not for you. Might be $2,000, 5,000 maybe.

[E]

You see that type of money, that's a ball.

[H]

Listen, the tax breaking is not for everybody.

[C]

Talk heavy bills.

[H]

Not everybody has those.

[A]

Talk heavy.

[H]

And I know people, girls actually, that have bigger bills than me. So if their man required him to sit down, I think that it's only fair to get double. What am I gonna do? If you pay my bills and my bills only, where's my emergency money?

[D]

That's a good point.

[H]

What if something happens?

[C]

Solid point. Emergency.

[H]

Regardless of the emergency happens, you guys want to get up and leave and leave us with nothing. And guess what? Those bills still stand, and they're still waiting on us. And here we are, jobless, haven't worked in years or months, and we have

[A]

to start from scratch.

[H]

So there's nothing wrong for a woman to want a safety net. Yeah, and the safety net should be double what you. Your bills are. Yeah, I don't want to be living month to month. And if something happens to you, then I'm effed.

[D]

That's financial literature.

[B]

That's checking account.

[A]

All right, panel of experts. I've been waiting to come to work for this one. I'm so shocked that it's hour three and we got here. I thought. I thought Aisha Diaz would be the COVID It could be.

[C]

It could be.

[D]

I'm not opposed to that. It's better than Bruno.

[A]

When somebody. When somebody get home, I'm sure she will be the ghost. I wouldn't check the only fans.

[D]

Oh, oh, she got only fans.

[A]

Yeah, but it's not. Oh, it's not.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, you.

[A]

You. You checked it out Already had it on sub.

[D]

Do research for the segment.

[A]

I can get this on the gram.

[E]

How much was it?

[B]

It's like 30. I think the price went up.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, she boosted. Yeah, she boosted the price Smart. When I ate that sho like 37 to $31. Oh, you. I just want to know what's going On y. The backpackers be our only fans. What? Yes. Oh, okay. I like it.

[D]

I've been saying that for years. I love it.

[A]

Yeah. She raised the price on us.

[B]

I just wanted to see what's smart.

[A]

It was $20 right before. Now she hot out there.

[B]

It was 1538, 24 hours ago.

[A]

Wait, oh, you added the tax on the $14.99. It was. No, on God. He's absolutely right. The price raised for a little bit. I hit that unsubbed real quick. But Aisha is the homie, so I want to be careful with at least how I address some of this stuff. I got my guy, Mr. Delgado. Now. You know what's funny?

[E]

When I first watched this, I just thought it was. It was like, crazy. Like, we hear all these numbers and it's like, all right, what the fuck are we talking about? I think there's a bigger conversation about. I wanna ask the women who actually have access to this. Cause she does have access in this way. There are a lot of high value as far as financially men who would love to be attached to her.

[A]

Right.

[E]

For whatever it is her namesake.

[A]

What do attach. Me.

[E]

Attach data.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

Date or whatever.

[B]

Right.

[E]

But when you.

[D]

I'm sending the 1099. At this rate. Yeah, I got a 1099.

[E]

So when. When.

[C]

When.

[E]

When you are approaching this woman or the woman is being approached in this way, do you ever think that this is going to last forever?

[A]

Right.

[E]

Clearly it's most. Most of the times it's not.

[C]

Do you care if you spend this kind of bread? Okay, I'm really asking because I don't know. Okay, cool.

[E]

So you don't care.

[A]

Right.

[E]

I'm here. I'm gonna get what I can get.

[A]

Cool.

[E]

I don't want to offend, but at some point, do we not just start to consider some of this just a higher level of prostitution? And I'm not trying to be. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, because, yes, some love can be there. You can start to fall in love with the person. All the other things. But if the ratio.

[D]

If I'm spending $45,000 a month, I love you.

[C]

Oh, yeah. If I did.

[A]

And listen.

[E]

And I want to say, again, I'm not trying to say she is prostituting. I'm not trying to say any other woman is doing that. What I'm saying is sometimes you'll trick yourself into thinking what you're doing is something different from what it really is. And if you have a price tag attached to dating someone Sometimes. And some of the things that come with the dating is being able to flaunt you, being able to have sex with you, being able to have the namesake of fucking with you with no real long term intentions into it.

[C]

But some dudes be having the long term intentions. They convince themselves that this is the. And a lot of times the money, would you say?

[D]

I never thought about it that way

[E]

for Aisha and whoever would supply with that life, they could actually have that. They can have intention. But for most of the women hearing

[C]

this, or for most of them somebody. But here's the thing. A lot of them girls, at least the ones I know through my research, they're getting paid. It's more like the dude be like, I don't want you in the street no more. I don't want you doing it. So it's not so much I'm paying you like you an employee. It's more like, I don't want to see you on social media no more. I don't want you outside these clubs. I don't want you bartending. So I'm gonna take care of your lifestyle. That's what she basically said.

[A]

But see, slow down for a second.

[C]

I said, that's how dude sees it.

[A]

I understand that part. And where I'll disagree with Imani on if we take her at her word, then she's not saying, I'm escorting and I'm prostituting.

[E]

I don't want, I don't want to make it seem like that's so.

[A]

I don't think you said that. Yeah, so I'm not going to put that on her jacket. She is saying, like Mark said, if you ask me to sit down and stop working, these are my expectations of you. I think that that's fair.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

I agree. I totally think that's fair. Where some of my questions come in is, well, where did you work? Merrill Lynch. Because I don't know a whole bunch of men that are like, yeah, listen, that dentist job, I don't know if I can deal. Merrill Lynch, Wealth Management, fucking where did you work? That made the guys say, I gotta

[D]

get you out of there.

[A]

Hey, let's not do that anymore. When I hear that, that's when I think, to your point. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, you were selling pussy.

[E]

Well, she spoke, she said to the nightlife girls, this is not like abnormal to them.

[B]

She said, $50,000 a month.

[C]

Like, come on, man, she might be making that a month. Yes. If you, a celebrity bartender in the

[B]

right place, just make the Jack and coke, Ma. Like I was at these clubs,

[E]

I

[A]

was at these clubs. She gonna fuck the Jack and Coke up. That ain't her. That ain't the area of expertise.

[B]

Obviously, you know, throughout this whole thing. Finances, tolerance, right? She was kidnapped in Miami and she stayed. If it was me, I would have been in the fucking Mexican jail. I think when it comes to situations like this, money is always the motivating factor. Love and all that stuff comes later. It's all about, about finances.

[A]

That's unfortunate. Like I, I heard, I heard Ian and the guys asking her, well, what about love? Listen, you asking women to fight off a lot of temptation, buddy. If men are in their, in their world, willing to pay 40, 50, 60, sometimes more a month, that's not. When the love comes in. They'll get to the love later on in life. They, they here for a good time. Now the long time. One, two. Anytime I hear women speak like this, the intel it gives me is, oh, this is a trauma response to you not having had shit growing up. Whatever was going on in the house and your fear of being without has conditioned you to where you'll protect against that. Before you get into love, a lot of people grew up in the house and didn't see love present, but we saw a struggle. We saw, we saw sleeping in the bed with too many siblings. We saw mama raising all us motherfuckers in this one room shack. So you grow up and you don't. Whatever needs to happen to not experience that again, you're down to do so. I don't think Aisha Diaz is out here looking for love. I don't think she was looking for love when homeboy stole her passport and she thought she was in love. I think that she's out here stacking, saving and getting to it. I do believe that somebody out there is, will pay this money. Actually, I know for a fact that somebody. Now how long, how long they pay that I can't speak to. So that might not be a long contract, but do I.

[E]

So Joe, what is that called if you're not looking? And I want to make this a broader conversation about just women.

[A]

It's called, it's called leading. It's called leading with transaction.

[E]

Okay?

[A]

It's called leading. A lot of words. Because that's not prostitution and that's not escorting. See, and that's where the conversation gets deeper. For women, for men, all we got is love. All we got is our sense of hum. Whatever bags them. Hopefully they enjoy us and being around us and the shows we like and the music we like. And hopefully love is the bait and sink. Bait and hook. That's not what's going on for women out here today. Women, when it comes to love. Well, yeah, a lot of women, A lot of women, there are these subcategories when it comes to love. It's a lot of love loopholes that love loophole games that women get to play that men don't. There's the old rich guy that likes young, hot girl. There's the young rich guy that likes the older, more experienced hot girl. There's the child support civil suit. There's that world. There are. There's too many. There's a bunch of different hustles. There's the baby hustle. There's a bunch of hustles wrapped up in what should just be about love for women. So I gotta appreciate a girl that's gonna be honest and say what it is for from the rip.

[E]

I appreciate her sentiments. And she was very clear on, yo, this is what I need. And she made it very clear I'm willing to still go work and whatever, but if you want me to sit, this is what I require for me to sit. You are allowed to say that to someone. Cause it's not like she's saying, you have to take care of me to be with me. But she's saying, hey, if you want me in this type of situation, this type of scenario where I do nothing else, I'm really just catering to us and our relationship.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

And she's hedging too, because she's also like, she may. I know this might be a short term contract. Yes. So I also. If this is only gonna be six months, I can't.

[A]

You gotta pay me for when you leave.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

So I'm not mad at any of that. This conversation for me is less about her situation and talking about a larger thing where women hear this. Especially a lot of women that don't understand who she is and think that they can now obtain that as well.

[C]

You heard young Miami say the same thing. Producer gotta have a hundred million, gotta be worth 100 million minimum to even fuck with him.

[E]

So these women, these younger.

[A]

Yeah. But she also just had a nigga that was worth 100 million or more. Yeah. Aisha Diaz has had somebody in recent years that was paying this. I can't speak to how many people, but she's. She's talking from her experience.

[E]

So you saying that. I understand that. I just think the two. The two women saying these things, a lot of girls don't understand, understand their positioning, why they feel that way, the fact that they actually have seen that before.

[A]

But escort tradition, escort traditions are mainstream now. The same way, the same way, the same way. So many things that we see in pop culture stem from the gay community and it's mainstream now. Like escort is in the mainstream now. Even if she don't realize that that's what she's saying, that's what it is. My problem comes from having known so many of these heifers. And again, she's talking about current day Aisha Diaz. I can't speak, I can't speak to that. Having known so many of them. I've seen a lifestyle that don't amount to like, when you talk about you've got to be able to hold me and I'm not talking about my heart. When you got to be able to hold me down the way I was holding myself down. If you're going to be with me. Well, I, I seen that. He was holding yourself down.

[E]

Yes. It was section eight.

[A]

It was, it wasn't lit. It was five roommates. It was a fake plant in the corner.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it wasn't a line going with, how did we jump to 50k? But that's today. That's after people go invest in themselves, they go invest in the implants, they go invest in the bbl, we go invest in the lip injections and the Botox. All of this. That men don't pay no mind is super expensive.

[D]

Got to have a G wagon.

[A]

It's expensive.

[E]

Guess what? You know who does that too?

[A]

What?

[E]

You know all the type of women that do that as well? Prostitutes.

[A]

Well, then that all the women that go and, and get that work done to their body.

[E]

When you invest, when you invest in that way and you put yourself out like that, it's not like you're doing that to say, I'm going to do this because now I want to go book a modeling gig and the modeling agency would rather me have a more curvy.

[D]

I would be a way better dentist.

[E]

I'm gonna go do this. I'm gonna go do this and I'm gonna literally just sit around and wait for a nigga to come scoop me.

[A]

Well, a lot of them do it because that's what they want done in their hearts. Reason two is, yeah, you think I'm doing this to not go out there and get it back from one of these fucking super lick niggas out here.

[E]

Cool. And when you do that, these rappers

[A]

have poor money management, These athletes have poor money Management, again, she not talking to everybody.

[D]

It be some fucking mechanics and fucking.

[A]

She not talking to everybody or for everybody. She's talking for the hoes that got the third man off the bench to put her entire life on that credit card and he's gonna take care of it every month and not even know and forgot about it. Like, that's who she talking to. So again, some of the same shit. Bernice came up here and said, listen, if I had an extra 40k.

[B]

I'm just saying kind of what Imani was saying is like, it's kind of incendiary because it sets the wrong set precedent for other attractive women. You know what I'm saying? A woman who works a traditional job, has a traditional life, nine to five, beautiful. Though she's probably hearing these comments and saying, okay, I need. I can't. I need.

[D]

I don't think that most women are hearing this and being like, yo, I

[E]

think y' all don't talk to enough women who are just as delusional to think that. Don't get me wrong.

[C]

It's not delusional.

[D]

I think y' all hang on way too often.

[A]

It is. Why is it delusional?

[C]

If it's happening, they getting it.

[E]

No, that's not true.

[B]

It's an anomaly.

[C]

It happens, but not all the time. It's talking to other anomalies.

[A]

No, what she's telling you is. No, it ain't.

[B]

There is a bitch that's right now that looks just as good as she does somewhere in America.

[C]

What's the ig? Of course.

[E]

No, I take a step further. There's a girl that doesn't.

[A]

Social actors activism purposes.

[E]

Of course, there's a girl that doesn't look as good as her who hasn't even been in that scene and believes that now they can obtain the same thing.

[C]

I think you're underestimating women's ability to assess their situation.

[E]

I think y' all underestimating the delusion that some of them sit in as well.

[C]

I also think. I don't agree with that, but I also think the situation is different. Again, she's.

[A]

If.

[C]

If you just a badass, fine ass dental hygienist bitch.

[D]

He doesn't use that word.

[A]

That's why I put it there for him.

[C]

If you do that, the dude that comes scoop, you might help. You might take care of some of your bills. He don't need to take you away from that dentist's office, do you? That's different than being a bottle girl, where you cause some of this Male insecurity. You also worried that some other dude with just as much bread is gonna snatch that. You don't need to worry about that.

[E]

You know why I don't wanna talk to y' all about this? Because none of y' all are dating. You guys have been with your woman for as long as you've been in. You have not actively dated, and you have not actually had to be on the scene to see how some of these women who have the lowliest jobs, who have. Are thinking today. Which is why people. Which is why people speak to the dating scene being as trash as it is.

[C]

Like, for example, when you meet somebody, what situation have you had? Like, what are they asking for?

[E]

My situ. My situation. And I. I'll. I don't think it's a fair one because people still associate me with the industry. So they think that there's an industry standard that comes with. With them. I'm talking.

[C]

What's that standard? That's what the standard is.

[E]

Yeah. As at some point, you're going to be well off or you're well off and you're going to take care of me. Because that is what comes with dating you.

[C]

And what do that look like financially? Is it like 10,000amonth? Is it like 20?

[E]

Who knows?

[A]

And that's why I don't want to hear from you. Why? That right there.

[C]

That's what.

[A]

Yeah. Why? Because you not gonna trick.

[E]

That's not true.

[B]

We all have to trick at some point.

[C]

I mean, that's.

[A]

This is. To this degree. Yeah, but we're not. If you had an ancillary 50% grand a month, you're not giving it to Taisha Diaz.

[E]

No, no. But. But I'm talking about when a, A. A guy is now out.

[A]

You out there dating for love.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not with the. On. On like this.

[E]

I see what you're trying to do. What are you trying to say?

[A]

I'm saying, aren't you out there dating to find, like, yes. Real love. Somebody who enjoys you, your partner. Yeah. Yeah. You not date needs to type of girls.

[B]

That post suggested otherwise, though. Joe, she sound like she was in love when you was reading that post, man.

[A]

Like, he's not bagging nothing that is requesting.

[C]

Nowhere near that.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. He's not able to deliver that. But even if he was.

[B]

Say it.

[A]

No, I'm saying even if you were able to spend that type of coin, like, that's not bagging the girls that are like, on the level of Aisha Diaz, she Her, her beauty. She is beautiful, Bernice. She came up here, they tried to kick her back and what they couldn't say was she don't look good. Like, true.

[E]

All right, so.

[B]

So this only applies to like hot chicks.

[A]

Like if you're like a six, it's not just hot chicks. Cause there's hot chicks all over the world. Plenty of hot chicks with jobs. There's plenty of hot chicks that want love. There's plenty of hot chicks that don't subscribe to this transactional type of new age.

[B]

But that post sounded like love in the one you read.

[A]

Well, you would be stupid if you think that. If you think that that post was about yo, you hit your. Thank God I got to see you without the chain and the cards and jokes.

[E]

Some. Some, I'll say some I won't. I don't want to say most, but some women today are hearing these talking points, the most regular of women and now thinking that that is the standard or the bare minimum. I'm. You really think that?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Some. The key word being some.

[E]

And I said some. And sadly and sadly enough for this gentleman generation growing up who is now new to dating, the little local 20 something year old dude is now having to think that, yo, I have to supply a certain amount of things just to have a girl, an attractive girl of whatever level take me somewhat serious. It's really that bad. I've talked to enough people that's true.

[C]

That's fucked up.

[E]

I've talked to enough people who are saying this and they not even in the industry. They not even doing. They really feel pressured to have to deliver on a grandiose level to a bunch of regular, and I want to say regular, like disrespectful. But to a bunch of women who don't even lead that lifestyle, who, see,

[A]

I don't even think there's a lot of people you can have this level of conversation with at all. I don't, I don't think that's possible to have this.

[E]

The number. Take the number away.

[A]

But the number assesses the pool. The number describes the pool that we talking about. So she's saying, and yo, 600k a year shrinks the pool a lot. A lot drinks the pool.

[D]

It's a drip.

[A]

Most women out there listening are not dating a man that has just a spare 600k.

[E]

Have we not watched Kevin Samuels? Have we not watched Kendra G. And all these different people that sit with regular everyday people who talk just like this. I want a man who's worth this A year and don't have nothing to show for it. This is coming more common than we think.

[A]

Imani is free to dream, right? It's free to dream. The difference between them and what? Aisha Diaz. Well, how I'm receiving Aisha Diaz. I know for a fact that this has happened for Aisha Diaz.

[E]

No, we removed that. We know that.

[A]

Right, the four and fives. That was on Kevin Samuel. That was for entertainment. Only them ugly. What are we talking about, Joe?

[E]

But at the end of the day, there's still men out there that would actually want to date these women. But now they feel like they can't or they feel like the possibilities.

[B]

They can't.

[C]

They can.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Cuz you got a fatty? No, because she want 600 grand.

[E]

Y' all keep focusing on Aisha. Aisha.

[C]

Is Aisha going to get what she

[E]

going to get and let me keep it a st.

[A]

If I had 600 of years Instagram pictures. She look. She looked better than when we was hanging out with her. Yeah.

[E]

And remove the remove.

[A]

I tell you that. I tell you that one.

[E]

Yeah, she looked great then.

[A]

She look good, remember?

[D]

See that's the funny part about the. On the dating scene. I'm encountering all these people is like there's a history, there's a. There's a resume of that made sense.

[A]

Say that.

[D]

I'm not saying that you trick. I'm just saying that they know that you be around these kind of circles so they might try to get that shit off on you.

[E]

Yeah, okay, I get that. I'm saying remove the remove Aisha. Remove what we know of each other. Try talking to some of the people today who are dating and what they're experiencing and why they're experiencing that. It's because they don't understand why she's able to make this statement. So they just think that that statement is just a regular occurrence and should be.

[C]

And I ain't mad at it. I'm with you. I'm not mad at that.

[A]

Well, that's. Well, let me cut you up. That's why I'm so glad that she emphasized women of the nightlife. I'm so glad that when Bernice came, she said women of the nightlife. Once you say nightlife, you have erased all normaly. You have erased all night. Life is where different rules is where well funded men go take money that they earn burnt and throw it.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

It's not a realistic place. So the things that they're saying, it's realistic for them and nightlife world. But Once you step out of nightlife, the rules don't apply anymore. So I get what you're saying that regular bitches is hearing this and they're like, oh my God, it's skewing shit. Fucked up.

[C]

And you're right.

[E]

And I'm.

[C]

And I'm saying the shit is not that fucked up. Just me. I want one thing. I don't think it's necessarily that fucked up. I think if you bring this up, same numbers into the regular world, the civilian world, that's a problem.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

But I don't think it's wrong for some of these women nowadays to say if we're gonna be in a relationship, because all relationships are transactional. We gotta be honest about that. Don't mean they're not driven by love, but they're all transactional at some level. I don't think it's wrong for them to set a standard for what they want in terms of support, in terms of care. Especially if you're gonna try and have some control over what I do with my life, my career. You want these kids? You want this?

[A]

You want this, this.

[C]

You got to be able to show some kind of support. Because men leave and they leave fast. We fall in love, we fall out of love. And people be stuck. Sometimes they be stuck with these kids. His house is like whatever. So I'm okay with people establishing demands for what they want. It just can't be unrealistic.

[B]

People don't have bank accounts anymore.

[D]

It's a sliding scale. It's a sliding scale. There's definitely plenty of girls that work at the whatever school or accounting job or whatever. They go get the BBL because they want to find some rich dude to take care of them for sure. It might not be 40k a month, but it'll be some level of.

[B]

Some do it for themselves as well, you know, just to improve their self confidence. That could be true.

[C]

I know plenty of women who just get that stuff for themselves to feel good in the relationship they already in for. For all the reason or to keep them. I know women who've done it to keep a dude because they out there chasing the IG models.

[E]

You know what it is? It's. And just being a little, little clear on the sentiment to why I'm saying it is because you're absolutely right. She made it very clear this is a nightlife thing and it's inspired through that. Right, right.

[A]

And she made it very clear. She's rich man's game.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Cool. It's rich man's Game.

[B]

That's a word.

[A]

She's not talking to nobody. That is of a certain word. Yes.

[B]

There's a term for that though, Joe. It starts with a G and ends with a digger.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

That's what that is. Words mean things. That's what it sounds like.

[A]

It's not necessary.

[E]

I don't want to place. I don't want to place gold digger.

[A]

It doesn't have to be. I have the exchange.

[C]

Yeah, I mean. So is it possible, Let me ask. I mean, is it possible to want somebody of a certain financial status and not be a gold digger?

[B]

No, that.

[D]

That I think by the definition of the word gold digger, to me, gold

[C]

digger is saying, I'm only looking for this.

[A]

Only. Only the money.

[C]

It's only the money and nothing else matters. And the money is the goal.

[A]

They're. They're not saying that. I think that's what Mark is saying. Yeah, they're saying the money is important. It's one of the most important things, but it's an additive.

[D]

And talked about how there's Love is not part of the equation. Da d d D the family. She can grow up seeing the love.

[A]

And what does that matter if she don't have her passport?

[C]

I'll give you an example. Like all of us would say that we're not gonna date anybody who we don't think is real. We're not gonna marry somebody we don't find really attractive. Sure, but you wouldn't say that you only want the person you want for their looks. Right? It's a factor. It's a non negotiable.

[A]

It's a good example, Mark, you know what I mean?

[C]

But it's not the only thing.

[A]

His brother got a PhD.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

You think meeting someone and being attracted to them physically is as equal as meeting someone and needing them to have a certain level of money?

[C]

No, no. What I'm saying is that just because you have a thing that's a non negotiable doesn't mean that you're obsessed with that thing and that thing only. But the term gold digger to me is a woman that's looking for dudes only for their money. And their goal is to get that money.

[A]

Yes, that's a gold digger.

[C]

And to me that's different than saying I have a certain level, particularly if you have a certain level of comfort yourself. I'm already making 40 grand a month. I need a dude that can help me sustain that lifestyle or if I lose it, can.

[A]

Can Replace See now. And now. That's where the lie. That's where the lie comes in. We need to audit these hoes onlyfans account, everybody. That's where they get the lie. I specifically targeted a girl that I thought, this is in comedic land, not in real life, y'. All. I targeted a girl that I thought was easy and had a Mitsubishi. Like, before I stepped to you, I was looking at your lifestyle. I went down back in 20, 23 on the Grand. At no point did I see you was living life right. Like, how did we get to 40, 50, and 60 grand? That's fair a month, right? Yeah, that's all.

[C]

But whatever that number is. Because the number could be. For some people, that number's 10. Yeah, but whatever that number is, you could want that. Kids. Like you said, you could grow up real unstable and you could be. Look, I need somebody who's gonna bring stability to me. I'm not dating nobody who's.

[A]

That's what it is. It's all fear. It's all fear based.

[E]

Because you're not really, really giving me stability. If we really want to talk about what stability really looks like for any person, not just a woman, stability looks like you getting it for yourself.

[A]

Oh, stop it, Joe.

[E]

We could say, stop it.

[C]

Stop.

[A]

50 grand a month is stability.

[E]

No, no, that's pretty stable.

[B]

That's stable.

[A]

Like a month. You can go buy it yourself.

[D]

Let's sell it for one buck.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

I've been to the pawn shop and felt stable.

[E]

But it's not stability if you're taking that 40 and 50 and you're not really doing anything real with it to give you, like, a future.

[C]

So.

[E]

And we gotta stop talking. Like, every single person getting this level of treatment has that brain to do that.

[D]

That's why we. There's a very Ian in them to, you know, teach us financial literacy.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

And Aisha and, you know, great for most women. And Aisha might be someone with that mind to say, hey, I'm gonna take my 40, 50. I'm gonna pay my bills. What I got left over, I'm gonna go invest. She might have that. Most people don't. Most people don't have that. We see people fuck just cashing out. People with their own motherfucking money on a monthly basis, not knowing how to manage their shit, making it on their own. So I don't expect you to go ahead and take someone else's money and know to do the same.

[B]

You better make that shit stretch. If I give you $50,000 a month, man. When your last name is Kennedy or some shit, that could go a long way.

[A]

Aisha started talking about all the houses she got in doctor and we are. She's like, yo, dawg, now we gotta pull up PR Are Zillow Puerto Rican. Zillow. Right now we got to pull up these shoes. Like, how much these. These is how much these houses. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

No, she.

[A]

She. I got exes that left me and.

[E]

And got busy.

[A]

Right? I'm about something to do. Oh, good girl. Girl. Bye.

[D]

Happy Dominican Independence Day, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

How convenient.

[A]

Way to go. Parks. Right there.

[C]

Right there.

[E]

We still in Black History Month.

[A]

Yeah. Get the out of here. All right, so how much could Aisha Diaz get out of you, Amani?

[E]

How much you got your.

[A]

You got. You got your Patreon check?

[E]

How much do I have?

[A]

You got your Social Security check. How many check. Yeah. You got your disability check and food stamp. You got your wick and wick.

[E]

All right. I'll be honest with you.

[A]

You.

[E]

If I had it to blow, I would do it. But I'm not doing. I'm not doing it. I don't. I stopped doing pause, too.

[C]

I can tell.

[E]

I. Nigga stuttering.

[A]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't do math, man.

[E]

First off. First off, I wouldn't be doing this.

[D]

That's true.

[E]

In my brain saying, you got jokes too today, huh?

[C]

I'm on your ass, too.

[E]

I got you. I wouldn't be doing this. In the back of my brain saying, you know what, man? I'm gonna be able to turn this into something real. So I would already go into the situation knowing that I'm blowing my money for an experience.

[A]

You'd have it in control.

[C]

Not me.

[A]

If I'm doing it, I'm proposing in week three. This money gotta lead to something.

[D]

Yeah. We starting a show. Fuck that.

[A]

Yeah. Word. Cool. Yo, Aisha Diaz, if you're looking for a podcast to come double and triple down in exact. What the fuck you said. Look no further. Look no further.

[D]

We got a panel of experts here.

[A]

Me, Mark, Amani, B Dot, and Parks. Would love. Would love to be of assistance. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I ain't got.

[E]

And salute and keep getting your bread.

[A]

Yeah. Don't you. What do you. What do you gentlemen think of Bow Wow chiming in, saying that it was free when he had it?

[C]

I ain't like that.

[B]

Living off experience, man.

[E]

I ain't like that.

[C]

That was nasty work. But you don't do that.

[A]

Yeah. You don't do that for all the reasons don't put the locks in this.

[E]

I ain't gonna lie. Men and probably 50 is that first example of recent. We gotta just stop going back and forth with women about certain, like, certain shit we doing is just like.

[C]

It's corny, though.

[E]

It's corny. Like, Bow Wow's a. I with Bow Wow think he's super dope. I think we need to put a little bit more respect on his legacy and what he's done. But when do corny shit, we gotta be able to say, yo, that's corny shit. When I do corny shit, niggas tell me I do corny shit. And I got accepted. So Bow Wow, that was corny. You ain't need to say that.

[A]

Damn. Getting it for free is corny now. God damn.

[E]

Well, no saying it.

[A]

I know, man. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Yeah, but you ain't never fucked nothing. That was like absolute heat that niggas thought was out of the realm of possibility for you. And nobody knew. And people was playing with your name a certain way, and you wanted to let them know, yo, I that girl that y' all think I can't. Like that never happened.

[D]

Yes, all the time. I don't go to the grave with it, though.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Right. You just.

[A]

You just. That's had to happen to you where thought that you couldn't lay something down, but you did it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And you didn't want them to know.

[C]

Like a little piece of.

[A]

You never wanted them to know. Why?

[E]

Who needs to know?

[A]

Cuz the people playing on your name. You and Bow Wow's name.

[E]

People have played on my name a lot over different reasons. Reasons I never feel the need to have to go correct it because I know me well.

[A]

Maybe you never under that caliber. That was set the record.

[E]

That's possible, too.

[C]

That's peace.

[E]

It's possible.

[A]

If you something that can set the record straight, please.

[E]

Oh, I would have some receipts. Oh, I'm not.

[A]

I'm not Big Bow.

[E]

I'm not a chatter like that.

[A]

Yeah. Yo, make some noise for that. You know what I mean? Make some noise for that, y'. All. He ain't a chatterbox, y'. All. Y' all can him in secrecy. Yeah. Love. When they can you in secrets, that's when they you all day long.

[E]

And I hold it down.

[A]

Shout to Aisha Diaz. Yes. You looking good up there. I'll tell you that.

[D]

That's for sure.

[A]

You're looking good.

[C]

I'm gonna check it out.

[A]

Gotta sit with that. You gotta. You gotta sit with that.

[C]

He sent it to me.

[A]

I would love to hear y' all talk about this on this thing of ours. You and your wife.

[D]

There you go.

[C]

That's the Mafia podcast. But ours is in this thing together.

[A]

In this thing together. That's what. I'm sorry. I apologize. I apologize. I'd love to hear y' all talk about that on this thing together.

[C]

You know what?

[E]

Y' all should have as a guest.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Me and Aman coming. Yeah.

[C]

We might even subscribe.

[A]

You got audience.

[E]

You do audience crowd that day.

[A]

We will.

[C]

Yeah. I would need some help, some backup. Now we gonna do it. That's a good. That is a good topic to talk about. I'd love to hear my wife talk about Aisha Diaz.

[A]

Bow wow. Knock it off, man. Don't do it like that. Don't it do. Do it like that. Stay low. Keep firing like niggas already know your body. Pause, man. You ain't gotta come out.

[E]

And you and Nick Cannon.

[A]

You ain't gotta do that.

[E]

You and Nick Cannon can always just.

[A]

Yeah, you don't have to do that. Not good.

[B]

Kiss and tell. That's not good.

[C]

Kiss and tell is corny. It's just corny.

[A]

You know how many times I turn on the Net, see something I laid down? Just talking. Just let him.

[E]

I just realized why he said that. I just realized why he said that. Cause they dated. It wasn't just a thing where he was. Fucked her or something like that. They were actually dating. So maybe he feels like her saying that would imply that he was. He was having to shell that out.

[C]

I don't think anybody was thinking that.

[A]

I didn't think about Bow Wow.

[B]

When I think of.

[C]

If I were to look at a Instagram, I don't think Bow Wow will

[B]

come to my brain.

[E]

Yeah, Nice piece.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think anybody was thinking. I think they were all just.

[D]

That would be the problem that he had. He wants Mark Lamont Hill to think of Bow Wow when he goes to ice.

[C]

It worked.

[A]

Bow.

[E]

Peace. We did that.

[C]

We did that. We did it now. To a natural segue. Have you seen the State of the Union?

[A]

No, but please feel free to tell me all about it.

[C]

We got. Before we go.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

There's a lot of political stuff going on. Just wanna. We like to inform the audience.

[E]

This was an amazing state.

[A]

I'm sure you would.

[C]

It was the world's Longest State of the Union address, the longest one in American history. Hour and 47 minutes. Donald Trump said a whole bunch of absolutely nothing. But he set the new record for the longest speech which I think mattered to him. I just want to salute all the people out there that protested. Al Green, Representative Al Green from Texas got kicked out for holding up the sign. Ilhan Omar screamed back at him. Rashida Tlaib screamed back at him. He said a whole bunch of nothing. But we gotta pay attention cuz the midterms are coming up and it looks bad for Trump, it looks bad on Trump which means Republicans could lose the House, could lose the Senate, could lose of a lot lot of shit. But we gotta actually pay attention. We gotta vote and we gotta know what's going on. And the other thing that I real fast is the Epstein files. It's getting, it's getting crazy. People are resigning, more people lost their jobs, people getting arrested. You know, Hillary Clinton just spoke yesterday.

[A]

She, she.

[E]

I think she put her foot in her mouth.

[C]

It depends on what she know.

[D]

She didn't say shit.

[C]

She said, she said she doesn't think she ever met him.

[E]

She said she doesn't remember ever meeting him.

[C]

Did you by the beer.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

I'm not sure she has met him. The question is what is. It's fucked up that have to be Secretary of State after being in the Senate that she still has to come up there and really speak for her husband and talk about like an answer for her husband and defend her man. Cause that's all this shit is about.

[E]

She hate that.

[C]

Oh, she gotta hate that.

[A]

She hate this.

[E]

I know she hate Bill.

[B]

Life after Lewinsky. You still like answering kind of questions like this?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

20 something years later.

[C]

And that's what this is about. This ain't about her. This is about. Is about him. I mean Jalain Maxwell apparently was at her daughter's wedding.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So there's some connection there. But it don't mean that she knows everything. Sometimes you be around it and you meet people and don't know who they. How many industry people you done met where like you might have met them, you may not. It just depends.

[E]

You don't think he was at some point so high up the chain and whatever reason that if he's in a room with her and someone's not gonna introduce us.

[C]

I just don't know if they met then or if they met before he was that high of the chain.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

The President, the former president of Harvard University, Larry Summers just resigned because he was having a Lot of personal and kind of a few weird emails with Epstein. You see Bill Gates apologizing?

[A]

Yeah. That was his relationship.

[E]

That's crazy.

[B]

This nigga had a thing for Russian hoes, man.

[C]

Yeah, he had two of them, right?

[B]

He go crazy in Brighton Beach.

[E]

That he met through Epstein.

[C]

Through Epstein. I'm just saying it's gonna get uglier. More names, more people, more scandals, more revenge designations.

[A]

The Wasa men. Yeah. Yo, Wasa men. It's a lot of people stepping down.

[C]

It is a lot of people stepping down. It's getting nasty, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

So just the next couple weeks, pay attention to that. And don't let them try to brush that under the rug conspiracy shit.

[E]

Do you believe in Bohemian Grove?

[C]

No, I'm not familiar. You gotta school me.

[E]

Bohemian Grove is a island that. They said that they were literally going to do rituals, rules and do rituals. No, I have something to follow if you don't.

[A]

It doesn't matter.

[C]

You were doing so great today.

[A]

Yeah, it's cool. He killed it. He killed his appearance, man.

[C]

These are jacket threes and four quarter dogs.

[A]

No, you waving off step. I had. Listen, you were doing great.

[E]

I had somewhere to go from. But if you don't know it, then it doesn't matter.

[A]

Know nothing.

[E]

It was attached to the Epstein. It's cool.

[A]

We don't know it.

[B]

Hide the.

[A]

Right there.

[C]

He was killing this whole episode.

[A]

He would be that. Oh, man. Listen, before we go, I do want to say rest in peace to Bobby J. Brown of the Wire. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. May he rest in peace. Shout out to him. Condolences to him and his fam. To his family, friends and fans out there. I also want to say congratulations. Congratulations to Tyrese Maxey.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Let me hit the round of applause. He set. He set the three point record for the 76ers. Congratulations for being the first Sixer with a jump shot, man. And this is awesome. I think he made something like 400 threes. 400 threes. All time record, man. What an organ. It's 850 or something like that. I'm talking shit right now because who had a jump shot on the Sixers? Alex Allen Iverson, Dr. J. Kyle Korver. That's how you know the list. Cal Korver. And Tobias Harris is on this list. Tobias is my man, but that's my man. Shout out to his brother, T.J. harris. Yeah.

[E]

Can we congrat Bill Duke as well.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Received his Wall of Fame. Walk of Fame. Sorry, Walk of Fame.

[A]

Take your time. He's a Patreon, you got to be exact, on the. On the main.

[E]

But salutes to Bill Duke, great actor, director. Received his walk of Fame star today or yesterday at least for him. And he deserves it. He's not spoken enough about in cinema, period.

[A]

Shout out to him. Let me just see. We didn't get into Netflix in Paramount. We can do that on the Patreon, Sure. We didn't get into David being the target of a grand jury murder, a probe. Everybody knew that but David. Yeah, everybody knew a but David. Again, prayers out to our good brother Elliot Wilson. Chris Bosch as well.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Tamar Braxton as well. Some real serious stories of people 45 and up just falling out and waking up in their own blood. All types of horrible. Check on your health. Health is wealthy. All right, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be be there. Until the next time I bid you a new farewell. Adios, arrivederci, Hasta la vista, au revoir or so long goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to choose when the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.

[D]

And about 40k at least.

[A]

Or 100 mil if you want. Young Miami, you know it's te. When you seen them two fingers, you know it's tea. When you seen them 10 fingers, you know, that's your. You know, Just beat up. Yeah, Gotta sit with that. I want to shout out our guest host. Beat up man. Thank you. We may see him next week. We may not see him next week. Is anybody doing anything interesting this weekend?

[C]

Huh?

[E]

Going to movies tonight?

[A]

What are you going to see?

[E]

Scream.

[A]

Just cuz. Scream.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Oh, I saw Scream. I saw Screen.

[D]

Oh, the new one?

[A]

Yeah. You saw it? Yeah. Wow. It came out a while ago, right? No, it just came out.

[B]

It's a brand new one.

[A]

I'm talking about Final Death. Destination. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[E]

Yeah. It's a franchise thing I just gotta keep up with.

[A]

I watch Scream. There was an action movie out that I wanted to go check out. I don't know the name of it, but whatever, it's not important. Beat out what you want this weekend. Anything.

[B]

Not a whole lot of nothing, man.

[A]

Scratching and surviving. Scratching and surviving. It's a good time to call him. It's a good time. It's a good time to call her. Mark, what you on this weekend?

[C]

This dad, man.

[A]

Family dad. Not me. I have no idea what that little nigga's doing. I don't know what my kids are doing. My girl is doing none of that. Parks, what you want this week? Anything.

[D]

I think we're having a little party, and I'll probably be in the studio. Besides that.

[A]

Hey, all right, that's it, man. Y' all hold it down out there. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Until next time, same place, same time, next week. Oh, next week. Our rewind show is coming. Our rewind show is coming next week. Week. That's for the 25 tier, the $50 tier. It's a great show. It's where you see stars from this podcast react to clips from this podcast that's coming out next week. So stay tuned for that.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

And that's that, man. Shout out to my baby. I love you.

[C]

Shout out to my babies.

[E]

I love y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

Shout out to the Harris family.

[A]

Shout out to the Harris family. Yeah.

[D]

Kill.

[A]

Yeah. Nah, for sure, man. Shout out to Aisha Diaz. Of course. 40,000 shout outs. 40,000 shout outs. Remember dj verify. Dj verified. For all party. For all party. They knew this was a hit. They go for, like, five minutes, so

[D]

you know they knew this was a hit. They let it go for, like, five minutes.

[E]

Yo, she posted the video in the studio, too.

[A]

If you didn't know that this was a hit, then you need your hit ears checked out. That's the end of it, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast. Until next time, You be without the jvp. We'll fold that up right now.