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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Yeah, I asked him earlier, but I asked him earlier.
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Hi, guys.
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What's up?
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Hey.
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We started by talking, first of all.
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Hi, Finns. Hello, patronies. Sign up now.
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Yeah, your mother's the best, yo. Your mother be calling me bartering, like, yo, you know I did. I got you out of jail.
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Like you just gonna throw what you did for a nigga in they face. Oh, my God, I hate when she's wr. All she did was lessen her 1% in the company. That's all she did. That's all she did. I had to pull a calculator. Calculator. 1% minus point. That's all she did. Poor lady didn't even know it. Hey, ma, I asked Ish what was up with the glasses. He didn't tell me because we were in the middle of a spirited conversation. Now. Yeah, they look good. You do look good. But you look like now you look like a named wise. Now it's prescription.
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That's definitely.
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You look like wise.
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That's it.
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No, no, you said some funniest.
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This thing gonna say, oh, yo, you fighting your case.
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That's what you look like fresh.
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Shape up. What you want right now?
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Like, is this prescription?
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You look like wise.
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Born. Yeah.
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Green eye born.
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Yeah. You can't wise Asiatic. Yeah, Knowledge.
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Knowledge.
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Knowled. Yeah. Yo, this nigga's a fool, yo.
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Fresh, fresh out.
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You definitely look fresh out.
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Niggas be fresh out.
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Context don't work anymore.
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Yeah, they work. Prodigious knowledge.
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Geez, I still green.
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Knowledge prodigious. This nigga. Look at this nigga, man.
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MC Knowledge.
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Yo, why'd your glasses actually really do something? Look at his stupid ass face. He looks smart and he got a good little pair. He ain't got them head. Hold up. He got the fucking joints from 89. LensCrafters. This shit is from 87.
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We see the ball spot going.
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Craftsmanship on them ships. Yeah, gold frames, boy.
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I see you, boy.
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It should look good. Listen, what were we talking about, Mark?
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You know what you talking about? Well, I guess you wearing your chain. And so we start talking about Potter the month. And then I heard you say that it's not based on performance. And we were saying, all of us were saying that you be. You be. What's the word?
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Campaigning.
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Campaigning for yours.
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A lot of words for congratulations.
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Is that what it is?
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Congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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You putting a lot of time on Joe, buddy.
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Wow. Wow. Well, I didn't hear what he said because I'm in the middle of my acceptance.
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Oh. So please, please.
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You haven't given one in a while. It's been a while. It's been quite some time.
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Yeah.
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Listen, if you'll notice, I'm wearing my custom one of one Joe Button podcast Potter of the Month chain. It does have some weight to it.
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You're gonna wear it every. Every day this month.
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Does have some weight. Well, every day that you gentlemen see me, the people I beat out, the people I beat out, every day that y' all see me, second, third, fourth, fifth, Fight amongst yourselves. Every day you guys see me, I will be dawning this nice. That's real Potter of the Month for February. The most important month to me. Black History Month.
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Shortest month.
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Shortest.
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Yeah. The shortest. Thank God. My shoulders were getting heavy. My shoulders were getting heavy. January, I don't even really count. I mean, it's a new year. Everybody's off. Like, everybody's just resting, recovering. But I did my big one last month, and it does feel good for that to not go unnoticed by the fan. So thank you.
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It's good.
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Congratulations.
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It was a tight race, too.
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Please, sir.
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Who was number two?
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Ish. I looked at the ballot. Counting.
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Oh, that's like our whole friendship, man. Come on.
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Come on, man.
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Hey.
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Hey. The boys is back. The boys is back. Outside, man. Stop playing. Stop playing with us.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Congrats.
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Thank you. That was funny.
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You worked on that.
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That wasn't off the top of the head. That was funny. Yeah. Those are some nice shades. You've been. You've been at those glasses for real specs.
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Those aren't shades.
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Not shades.
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Ain't no shade.
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It's all right, bro, but they not for your eyes. Your eyes are fine, right?
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No, he wearscription in them.
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Got the worst eyes.
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Anybody in this room.
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Really.
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Negative seven. Negative six and a half.
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Damn.
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You kidding?
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You up my ass.
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I could get it, but it ain't going.
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It ain't. Yeah. Yeah.
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Ain't going to help.
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It'll help.
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It ain't going to get him to Conspiracy.
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He don't want to do it.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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He was going to say a little bit of both.
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He don't want to do it you afraid something might happen now I'm older
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and when you older, you still gonna need glasses, so kind of don't make no sense to get the lace up there.
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Gotcha. They look flat up. Everybody can't wear them.
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Those some good glasses.
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You got the right face for glasses.
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I'm not saying nothing. You looking at me and it's not thick.
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Hold, let me see.
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Take it off.
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Let me see it.
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It ain't thick. Oh, come on, yo, only you, bro. You know that. Only you, Yo. Yo, why am I gay? Flip.
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Welcome back, Flip.
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Welco. How was?
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Was great, man. It was great.
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It was great.
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Beautiful, huh?
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I seen you out there catching men and.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Wait, wait, what happened?
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They was jumping. He was catching them at the bottom.
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He was at the bottom.
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Catch him, yo.
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No, one of the unique things about being in Trinidad though, they. They asked a lot. One of the things, they kept seeing me and saying, yo, you got to bring Joe Button out here. I'm telling them, oh yeah. You know how many times I had to edit that out my video? Nigga, don't tell me, bring that nigga out here. I'm not his keeper. I'm not his keeper at all. But it felt great because they said, yo, introduce him to the culture, bring him out here. They were very excited and they showed a lot of love, man. Trinidad, it was beautiful.
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That wasn't your first time out there, right?
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No, fourth. But it was just, it was beautiful. I loved it.
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Then you got stuck.
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I got stuck for a couple of days. Yes.
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It's not a bad place to be stuck.
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Definitely worse place to be stuck.
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Right?
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Carnival?
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No, Carnival was over Monday at 2.
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Carnival aftermath. Yeah. Word, your stuff?
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I was with my family.
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Oh, okay.
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Those are my family, you know what I'm saying?
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Okay.
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So that's my wife.
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Yeah.
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No, I had fun. I mean, when I. When they, when they come changing my flights, I kind of was frustrated, but feel helpless. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I wanted to come home. I wanted to come to work, actually.
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What about the dog and the cat?
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I had some people at my stand, at my house.
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Uhuh.
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I got you right off it.
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They got Drummer Shepherd.
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Ain't no way. Nothing to worry about.
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That dog.
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Dog is fine.
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Hold on.
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What you.
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What you say?
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I didn't say nothing. Uh huh.
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What?
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He got you right off a little spill. He was about to get in your bed. He stepped right on it with absolute. That's good. Hey, how's the cat? My bad.
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Shout out to everybody over there though, man. You know, shout out Cuz I started. I went there through Epic Carnival Cruise and ended up there, man. Shout out to Epic and shout out to Johnny Bravo. Shout out to everybody over there. That just showed a lot of love. It was amazing. And I'll be back soon,
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Ambassador. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
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Don't go too soon, man. We really missed you. It was great. It was great for you to get a vacation, but it was rough for us.
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Hey, yo, let me tell you something, man. Yeah. Yo, I've been. I'm back to the fourth wall. I've been beefing with this.
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Yeah.
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All that I'm saying on Instagram, Twitter is about this. All that I've been beefing with this. I text him and Ian, the group chat. This been playing with me all Josiah. But I want to show him that I'm able to come here and work, period. It's not about Freeze. I know you have said it had nothing to do with Freeze. I wasn't even thinking about Freeze. It's this right here. He know. But I'm respecting it because I came here to work.
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I want to work.
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I just want to get straight to the point. Let's get to it. Because that's what he expects. They expect me to go off the rail. Come here. Up. Not doing. I'm doing it a different way, nigga. Because they're not gonna send me to the projects.
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Yo. Come on.
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Yes.
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So that's all that.
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I'm not gonna come in here. And up. Two seconds.
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Hey.
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Oh, shit.
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That should have foul. Can you imagine looking at that?
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All right.
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The wall looked different.
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It's been. I don't have a story. Quiet enough, too.
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Yeah, my fault.
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Yes, your energy has. Your energy has been missed.
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Indeed.
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That's a fact.
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Lot less edits.
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Yeah.
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Paul, do your workout. You're the one that said it was a sleepover.
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Oh, man. What's wrong with you, man? Can we get to it? I don't have nothing queued up. We might as well take a break. We might as well pause this. We just do.
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Rest of our dogs.
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Adler.
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Yeah. How you think he was going to
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throw that out there like that?
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You gonna look.
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You ain't see it.
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You terrible.
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No, I didn't even know what y' all talking about. He just told me behind the scene. I don't even go in the group.
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We still recording?
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Yeah, we're still recording.
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We still recording.
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Yeah.
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Never mind.
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Here we go.
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Oh.
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Shout out to Roc Nation.
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We are still recording.
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You understand what's about to happen?
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Oh, I was just testing, but
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you
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don't got more of that that's why you choose your words
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Am I my brother's keeper?
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Yes, I am.
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With my soldier boy I'mma say I told you, boy we rolling with 20
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guns 16 hollows is loaded in Everyone
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I know you smell something, I do the math that's 320 shells lying at your ass.
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Mic check, mic check, mic M check. 1, 2, 1, 2. What?
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Infinity.
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Infinity truck.
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Yo, yo.
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Hey, where do you find them shits from? I'm with the Infinity website. They don't got the shits at all.
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Yo, my.
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Okay, yeah.
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All right.
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Freestyle game's pretty good.
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Yeah. Word. I'm off the top, I'm off the top there's not where I was at but fuck it, this is where we
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at with it Taste of my life I put my life on the line When I'm out on the street Put my Teflon on and roll with my heat I keep my circle nice and small I don't fuck with these clown
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niggas in the race for the G's
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I'm on laps around niggas soon as
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I step on stage the crowd will
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blow soon as my sneaker wins stores Reebok stock sold I ain't gotta say I'm a bo can tell the east coast crib the size of a small hotel this journalist right about me leave me confused had me feeling like the heavyweight champ when he lose I read
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somewhere I'm homophobic go through the hood it's mad on my dick now we can get high. This is what you call music?
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Yes, sir. Whole Jersey, New York City, Queens what up out there?
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Shout out to the patronies of course,
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all the subgroups out there.
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I got no choice but to be a rider approacher boy with the toaster boy Linda. What up, Paisley?
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What up, farmers? What up out there? Welcome back, Flip. Welcome back, Flip.
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Quiet in your funeral Singing you're so long.
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The more paper, the more strip we gon get get it?
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North Carolina, South Carolina what up out there? Lost your mind?
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Pumped your head trying to stop my
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shine But I got bread and I
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ain't got time to hear what they
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said When I catch them cows I'm
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gonna work I'm a soldier boy I got no choice but to be right up. I'm supposed to be rich.
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Microphone check. 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2. So happy to be here let's keep this applause going. Get these drops out the way right quick.
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Who is that?
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Who is that?
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And Flip. Flip, Flip. What episode is this? 908 welcome to episode 908 of the JOE Button podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang.
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Yeah.
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I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, so happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the vibes, Queen's finest, Queen's Flip is in the building.
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Yes, sir.
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Glad to have you back, man.
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Thank you.
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Glad to be back. To his right, our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building, here to give you every update about what's going on out there in Iran. Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah. We ain't skipping it. We ain't running from it. Nah, nah. Clear my name in these streets. They think I'd be suppressing Mark. They think I take.
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I feel suppressed.
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I hate Mark. I fucking absolutely hate Mark. He gonna lean right into it. I didn't want to tell anybody. I didn't want to say anything next to Mark. Come on, man, stop playing with him. Mr. Thousand Doors and up himself knowledge wise born nigga issues in the building.
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Welcome home. Welcome home.
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Welcome home.
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Yes, sir. Went in there, turned your life around. Gave your life over to the nation. Ran to the nation for protection
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or that.
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I ain't mad if they do that.
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Fuck you talking about? Next to him. Stop playing with him, man. Come on, Mr. A Low. Stop it. Stop playing with him. The freeziest of them all. Big Freeze in the building. How you doing, Freeze?
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I'm great.
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I'm great. Glad to be here.
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Good. Glad to have you. Fucking Elmira's finest. Big Parks is here.
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What's poppin?
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What's poppin? Poe is here.
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Who?
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I just learned. That was. That's what I did this weekend. I learned that Po is older than me.
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I didn't know that either.
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That makes sense. Why did I think that? That white don't crack, ain't it? That white don't he the first person
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I seen where you look that white don't crack.
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He be with the. Yeah, I mean the peds, the ped
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dealers, the black women. Oh, zapping his soul. Zapping some of that purity.
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Stealing that melanin.
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Yeah, Yeah. I don't know why I thought that all this time that Poe was in his 30s and just had that. The husky white build. You know that. You know the build that the 30 year old bald, husky white dudes had.
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He just came home to.
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Yeah, exactly. Po is older than me.
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You look good.
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Yeah, you look good, Paul.
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You look phenomenal, man. Damn. Zapping them, zapping that like a vampire.
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From them.
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From them thick black sisters. Anyway. Stupid Cory's. Hey, hey. Corey is here.
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He got an air purifier.
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Look at my man right there. Personal air purifier, too. Just for him right there.
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That's crazy.
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You know, our air over there by
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his race shorty zapping the life out of my man.
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He need to breathe and breathe again.
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We was in the gym the other day. My guy moving just slow.
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Yeah.
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Corey, you know, that's looked like he lost. Lost some of his strength.
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We been there.
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Yeah.
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Gave up all your escape essence the night before.
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Exactly what it is. Yeah, she's zapping them dry, Let off two of them. Look at him. He's deteriorating.
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Wasted away.
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Can't get 185 up.
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He do look tired.
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No, that honeymoon phase, it feel good, but it changed how you look.
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I'm glad I'm not going through a honeymoon phase at this stage of my life.
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No.
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I would die. That's part of why I stay with my girl. The fear of the. The new honeymoon phase.
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Oh, my God.
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Meeting somebody else.
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No, you got a hump every 20 minutes.
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Yeah, that too.
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No, no, I would never be signing up for that. Yeah, that's the honeymoon.
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A lot of humping.
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Oh, I thought it was just pretending you're somebody else.
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Well, that too.
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I didn't even. I didn't even think of the sexual aspect of it. I just thought about getting all your lies off. I be saying anything if we pass the city, man. I used to work right. I used to work right here. Citibank. I get all types of shit off in the honeymoon phase. Anyway, good to see all of y', all, man. Good to see y'. All. Y' all look refreshed. Y' all look like y' all slept. Y' all don't look like y' all saw that new paradise.
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Oh, I saw that.
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I had to cut it off.
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Crazy.
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I went to sleep, I had to cut it off. That shit's already finished.
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Cry.
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I cut it off. No, no. I went to bed. I was up past my bedtime, so I just cut it off. Because at that point, I'm laying down, listening, and if I want to really see it, I can't. I can't do that.
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It was one episode or just one?
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Just one. I cut it off.
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That made me cry.
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I cut it right off.
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All right, so no spoiler alerts. Let's do that.
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Yeah.
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Why don't y' all give. Why don't y' all give the rest of the world some time to Watch it before y' all talk about it. Seriously. For real, y'. All. Y' all always rush. Y' all rush. Y' all rush to judgment on such a large platform. The rest of the world needs time to watch some of these things. Please, no spoiler alerts. Please, no spoilers until you see. Yeah, None.
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He turned it off.
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I'm with you. You good?
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No, I heard him say I was laying down. I ain't. I gotta watch it again. I thought nicely. Turned it off ain't really get the whole.
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But in the event you weren't good, which one of your friends would be the one that you want to make that decision and pick the home
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up here?
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Yeah.
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Cause he gonna say.
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I see.
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He gonna say Danny or something, you know, Freeze it.
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Just freeze.
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Yeah, I guess. That's a good pick. I can't be mad at that. You talk to my girl.
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You gave a towel? Yeah. You go to the ship over there.
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He got a cdl.
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Rhode Island.
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He got a cdl. So that's probably why I never got my CDL freezer.
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Go up there and say, I want my friend.
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He'll go up there and fight for you. Joe would just call. Hello? Hell, no. Is it tough to get through?
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You already got it out.
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You already gave him something.
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Listen, we got a lot of great topics lined up for you guys. The other day, I took it upon myself to go see Scream 7 just for you guys.
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Why'd you do that?
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Yeah, I wasn't doing else. I was in the house all weekend. Board beat, cabin fever. Why not get out and go see what happened to Courtney Cox?
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Is part seven of anything ever good?
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No.
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No. What happened?
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It's part seven of anything ever good?
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I was trying to think maybe the rock. Well, Rocky stopped at six, right?
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And I don't even know if it's seven. I'm just.
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I think it is seven.
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Oh, seven. Yeah, I think it is seven.
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Fast and Furious.
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I was just about to. Only one.
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That's probably the only one.
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I'm sure some Star wars fans would probably make an argument for Star wars is fire.
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Okay.
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They showed a coming attraction for some new R2D2. Oh, look.
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Good.
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But anyway, I won't bore you, but I did stay for the whole film, so don't touch that dial if you want to hear what I thought about it. Where would you gentlemen like to start? Do y' all want to start at Mark ISO on. On war stuff and get sad?
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No.
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Do y' all want to try? Okay.
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Not this early.
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Not this early.
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Can I give y' all some quick good news?
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Sure. Oh, for sure.
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Please, My brother. Not the one we usually talk about. My other brother, the successful lawyer. No, no, that's not a dis.
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I'm sorry, what do you call it? That's a diss, man. That's the bum nigga.
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Not the one.
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We are talking about our successful lawyer brother.
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No. Anyway, he. I didn't mention on air, but for the last couple of years, he's been facing major felony charges.
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Yeah, you're gonna do that in the middle of Mark's story about his successful brother that's facing felony charges. You know.
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You know, another gym.
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That's how you know it's honeymoon phase. She don't even know the work hours. She'll know. She don't know when not to call.
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She don't care.
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Look at him.
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I just think it's funny that he
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on Gmail Chat talking. Go ahead, Mark.
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Yeah. No, my brother, he's a very prominent attorney in a very sort of, I think, integral part of Philadelphia in terms of his philanthropy and everything else. He, for the last few years, been facing some major charges. He was in a bar three years ago in Center City where he was hanging out, actually, just watching the game. And this dude was in the corner being very rough and physical with his date. What it looked like his date. Then he sort of was in the bathroom trying to attack this girl, the manager. And my brother said, look, we'll walk you to your car so the girl wouldn't be assaulted. You know what I mean? He walks her to her car, and as they're walking back up the street, this dude comes around the corner, Comes up the street was he had already, like, attacked two homeless people. And he just walks past my brother and said, like, nigga, what's up?
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Right?
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He's not black, by the way. Then he pulls out a knife and starts coming toward my brother with the knife. So my brother pulls out his gun and shoots.
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Oh, shit.
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Yeah. He has illegal gun license to carry. It's Philadelphia. Yeah, yeah, we all got guns. And then the guy starts to. He didn't hit him. And the guy sort of turned and started to run, but then he starts running toward the girl, and he thinks he's about to assault the girl, so he shoots again.
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Oh, so he shot him while running away?
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No, but you can shoot a gun to defend, to protect life. Not just your life, someone else's. Okay, if someone starts fucking you up, I can shoot them, too.
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It's not our call, man. Hey, what's Wrong with this. Oh, no.
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I ain't letting him get this.
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I just want to make sure I got the facts of the case. Dream. So after. After he hit him. The dude was running away. He didn't hit him. He didn't hit him.
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He didn't hit him. That's the point. First shot misses, okay? And the guy comes toward the. In the direction of the girl. Remember, this guy still has a knife. And then he shoots again. Then the guy runs off. Turns out he hit the guy in the calf. The guy goes to the hospital, still has the knife with him. In the hospital, they come after my brother and they arrest him for the shots.
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Was it attempted murder?
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It wasn't attempted murder. It was like felony. I believe it was felony assault and some other thing. Yes. Aggravates all these other things. And the police didn't put on a report that the guy had a knife, even though they knew he had a knife. They recovered the knife. They still didn't put on. And I've seen the video footage. Like, the video footage is very clear what happened. The guy was assaulted. It was not even close to not clear. And for two years, the police refused to do the right thing. And finally, the district attorney in Philadelphia, Larry Krasner, agreed to drop the charges a couple days ago.
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Congratulations. Oh, word.
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It's been a really big.
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Let's hit the round of applause, but on medium.
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Cause you still got questions.
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Yeah, I'm not all the way.
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Popped him in the cab.
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I'm not all the way. Resolved. Popped him in a cab. Go, go.
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Other than having terrible aim, he did absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing wrong. He did the right thing. He defended himself. It was just fucked up that the police didn't do the right thing.
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Your brother a criminal attorney?
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Personal injury.
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Okay. Did he bag the girl?
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No. But the girl came the next day and said, yo, that guy saved my life. And the girl's mom was a cop. And she said, thank you for helping my daughter. And they still wouldn't drop the char.
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How about this is like they mad
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at him for something.
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And it's crazy because they love all the right wingers that love people that have guns. They love stories of good guy with gun protects bad guy, you know, protects good person from bad guy with gun. Suddenly when it's a black guy with a gun, it's a whole different game. Now all those right wingers, all the second amendment people didn't say shit. They were all quiet. You know what I mean? So and so.
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And his face is lasted all over Philadelphia.
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So Yeah, you can't go there. And it was a bunch of jealousy, a bunch of hate, all that shit.
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Well, congratulations.
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Congratulations.
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Thank you.
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That's still great.
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Thank you.
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Yeah. Snigger Brain just won't shut down because
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it's a really irresponsible thought and not one that I believe. But for entertainment's sake, I'll say it. If I save your life, I might adopt the thinking like the passport bros. Like when they take you on a trip, you ain't hear what I just asked him. Yeah, but. And I heard his answer.
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My answer was no.
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But if I save your life, I might look at it like the immature dudes to be like, if I paid a check for dinner, I got a smash. I don't agree, though. I don't think that. And I think that's horrible thinking. But if I save a little bigger tap, I'll save your life.
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I'm putting a call in your name.
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You owe me, Shawnee. Gotta get a little something something. That's really horrible, too. It is really horrible.
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My brother doesn't think that way. He's not at all unlike you the scoundrels. He's an upstate member of the community.
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Not any of that. None of the hills, brother. All over Philadelphia that they got a be a billboard on every block.
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Every block.
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Every block.
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You driving down the highway, you see that?
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Yeah, man. So he can.
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Well, thank God. I'm glad we were able to start with some good news. That is dope. That is dope.
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Amazing.
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I don't have a cool segue. I don't have a segue into something fun, if that's what we're looking for. From me. I don't.
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Potter of the month.
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My chain is heavy. Heavy.
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Oh, my God.
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My chain too heavy for me to do it today. Could you do it?
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Wow.
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Come on. I want to give you a shot.
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You're gonna be like, no.
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Once your honeymoon phase was over, they got rid of your potter, the Muffle War.
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They gave me Potter of the Year two months ago.
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They gave you five of them. And then it was, like, up.
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How many I supposed to get? Yeah, I mean, I've been there before. Ice, where you want to start?
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Would you wear the chain?
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Oh, I wear the chain every day. They'll be on air.
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I mean, will I relinquish it? You know why?
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Remember you did the January, February thing, and then you ain't see it again until today.
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Oh, yeah.
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What you should do.
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Hey, Mark, if. If you win it, make him put it on you.
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Oh, that's good. I would.
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Yeah, I would.
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I think that should happen.
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Yeah, that's it. Chain the next person.
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Okay.
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I think.
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I think that that should happen.
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Chaining day.
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So then. Yeah, so you should give it to Ish and let Ish put it on you.
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Oh, that's good.
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Yeah.
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Will you chain the him?
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You know he ain't going to do that.
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He already odd.
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Now you got to come off.
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Now you cool this. Come on. Don't even put my. Imagine.
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You got it.
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At least chain them, bro.
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I got you.
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I got you.
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I'll chain you.
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I'll chain your eyes.
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You talking.
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What's the name?
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First.
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First pod out of Black History Month.
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Here they go.
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Exactly. Right back at it. Right back at it.
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We can't get that off.
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Last month.
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They would let them all crazy. You let them do that?
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Nah, they looked at me crazy for having Richard Dolan's out.
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You know what I mean?
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Apparently, Black History Money's rules and who knew?
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If we're not starting with the war. What would you like to start with? Barillo?
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Yeah, it's the next most important thing. Paul.
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No, let's find this.
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Yeah.
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All right. Let's start with the war. Let's hit the war. Let's hit the war, I think. Let's hit the war. Let's hit the war.
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Let's knock the war out, man.
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We gotta start with the war. That's the responsible thing to do. And this is a responsible podcast.
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That's true. That's what we're dope for.
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So since the last time you all were here, since, ooh, it's just ugly. The United States and Israel launched an attack on Iran.
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Iran.
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It's an attack that has resulted in lots of death. We saw the first day, 50 schoolchildren killed. The next day, we saw almost three times that amount. We've seen people hiding in the streets. People in Tehran, Iran, are like, in bomb shelters. Schools are being destroyed, lots of innocent lives lost. Iran has responded by hitting some of the nuclear bases. I'm sorry, not the nuclear. Some of the military bases. Excuse me. In the Gulf, places like Bahrain and other places. It is a. It's a really ugly situation. And I'm gonna get right to it. It's an unnecessary situation. This did not need to happen. The idea that Iran was on the verge of a nuclear weapon is the argument that they've been making every month for the last 30.
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30 years.
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Yeah, it's just what they say. There's no proof of it. And in fact, they were in negotiations the very day of the bombing to make sure that Iran's nuclear program didn't expand. Although we could have a conversation about why everybody in the world could have a nuclear weapon except brown people and black people. Israel got one, US Got one, France got one. You know, we could keep going, but, like, suddenly, when certain people get it, it's a problem. But there was no evidence that they had one. And so the bombing was unnecessary, and it served a bigger interest. And so the idea that you can indiscriminately bomb another country, the idea that you can kill the leader of a sovereign nation, I'm talking about Ayatollah Ali Khomeini, who's the supreme leader of Iran. Like the fact that all that can happen and we're pretending that it's okay. I don't mean us up here. I mean, too much of the global community speaks to how heavy the propaganda is. And so we are in a very serious war, and people are dying everywhere. Journalists are dying, citizens are dying, teachers are dying. We just saw 11 people die, including some children die in Israel, in Jerusalem in particular, two days ago. So this is getting ugly, and it's only going to get uglier. Donald Trump says that he's prepared for this mission to take five weeks, but he could go far longer if it needs to. That word need is doing a lot of work in that sentence, because there's a very clear plan here, and it's been in play for a long time. I don't think this is going to be five weeks, and I think there's going to be another excuse and another pretext for more illegal, unnecessary, indefensible violence. So this is a crazy time, and I just need everybody to know how crazy this time is. Everybody listening, everybody watching. The world is on fire, y', all, on so many places and in so many ways. And this is another thing. And while this is happening, people are being bombed in Lebanon, people are being bombed in Gaza, partly because the smoke screen is up about what's happening in Iran. So, you know, don't everybody, finally, just do your own research. Don't just listen to mainstream cable news. Don't just listen to the liberals or the conservatives, because a lot of them are also filled with the propaganda that Iran is. Is the bad country. We're the good people. We've been doing that since Hulk Hogan in Iron Sheet, you know what I mean? Like, we've been taught that since we were kids, and it's never been true. It's always more complicated. And we got Work to do in terms of education,
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how do you propose to be educated when I'm agreeing with you? But I'm just a question like, how do you propose we educate ourselves for the people out there when mainstream media is dependent on the main vice that everybody uses for data?
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It's so interesting. And I agree. That's the problem. I think the same way we find alternate insights, people live on YouTube for everything else.
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That's true.
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When we want to find a theory about why an album didn't come out or what an artist really meant or what a lyric means backwards or all these debate, all this shit, we can find this information. One thing is to listen to the people in that country. You know, don't just listen to our state media. Listen to Iran media. And I'm not saying believe everything Iranians tell you. I'm saying listen to media from other places. I work at Al Jazeera, Al Jazeera. I'm biased, but I think Al Jazeera is a great place to get alternate perspectives.
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That's what they're saying. They're saying that you guys are giving probably the most truthful reports of what's
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going on around the world. I think so too, because we don't sugarcoat this. I mean, there are people. Because the other piece of this is they're gonna say Iranians are not free. They're gonna say Muslim women in particular in Iran are not free. LGBTQ folk in Iran are not free. And again, that's such a lazy analogy. People are unfree in a lot of places. It doesn't give us the right to go there and kill their leaders. It doesn't give us a right to wage war against them. Ayatollah Khomeini is not the greatest person on earth, right? I can hold space for that truth and hold space for the truth that the US had no right to go out and murder him. And those two things have to come in. And there's a long standing narrative in the west about the Middle east, which is that we need white men to save brown women from brown men. So we always say we're gonna go out there and liberate the women. That's what we said in Afghanistan. That's what we said in Iran. That's what we say in Pakistan. Wherever we go, we're gonna liberate the women. Operation Iraqi Freedom. And all we do is go in and plunder and destroy. And we don't allow them to rebuild. We occupy. We take over. It's basically imperialism by new means. And so the way to get to that truth is to go to those places, listen to those. I don't mean visit. I'm saying you can just listen to media from other people. The great thing about this media universe is that you don't have to go to Iran to get in Iran perspective. You don't have to travel to get a podcast from young people who are saying, look at what's happening to our country. You can hear the voices of those kids in those bomb shelters. We can do that by just going.
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Do you have any. Excuse me, do you have any, like, suggested places specifics?
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There's two.
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Because again, with the way the Internet is now, with all this AI shit, you don't know what's real.
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It's the Wild West.
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You really have no idea what you're looking at. You could think an article is real. You could think a video is real. So do you have some people that are verified that's like. Like, hey, this person is telling the truth about what's going on over there?
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The two places I will go, one is Al Jazeera, but two is. I've also grown to really like Zateo. Z E T E O. That's Mehdi Hassan. He's the one that used to be arguing and debating and shutting people down. He wrote that book. I think you read the book or had the book on the art of debating or the art of winning a debate or something like that. How to win any debate. We were talking about it. One of us was up here talking about it. But Mehdi Hassan, he used to be at msnbc. He has a whole network called Z E T E O. They got live coverage. They got footage from people on the ground. They got books or substacks. They got all that stuff. I would go there and just start there, and then you'll enter that world and this is another time, finally, to listen to Twitter or X. Because people, not everybody on X, but the people who don't have any other means of getting their voice out. Just like when we were in Ferguson, just like we saw in Gaza. Like, people are there saying, hey, here's our story. We have access to it. So this is a big deal, y'.
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All.
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Don't let anybody tell you it's not. This is huge. This could change all of our lives. Even if you only care about oil,
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gas prices and gas prices.
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Because right now, the straits of. What's it called?
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Straight to Hermos.
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Straight to her. Thank you. Thank you. Is. I mean, it's closing, right? The ability for tankers to get through. Some people are shutting down complete oil production because again the gulf states are getting hit in retaliation. So that means that even if you just don't want to pay $5 a gallon for gas, you want this shit to stop. You should care about people, you should care about human life. But even if you just care about
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your pockets, what are the long lasting effects in the event that they do shut down the strait of her MOS which I learned is apparently responsible for 20% of all of the oil flow.
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On a smaller way, way less important note, you can see the immediate price jumps in just Home Depot and Amazon. Like you know I'm working on a house dog overnight. Damn near some of the stuff like had mad in my Amazon cart. Yeah, literally they send you a memo saying this is went up by $4, this is went up by $6 and it's like something that cost $30 for that to go up by $4. That's a lot, right? You get what I'm saying? Because we just look at oil as oil. We just look at gas as gas. Yo, carpet, carpet is made with petroleum products. Roofing is made with petroleum products. Thread all of that stuff. This cow, everything comes from a machine that's running on oil or oil and petroleum byproducts itself make a bunch of things that we use, whether it's packaging, cosmetics, all of that stuff. Yo is, is, is a direct reflection of what's going if this oil production gets stopped. No, they said that even in the Venezuela shit. To your point going over there bombing Iran is some bullshit. But he went in Venezuela and literally took the lead on somebody. You said I don't like what you're doing, we gonna just kidnap you.
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Cool.
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Venezuela now can't take oil to Cuba. They said basically Cuba is fucked up right now because they machines and infrastructure runs on oil and gas. It's not just for heating and for putting in your cars. So many other things are relying upon oil and gas that we don't think about on a day to day basis basis, you know what I'm saying? Like making sneakers or some stupid clothing. Yeah, it just relies on that stuff. So if you can't import or export oil or fuel for all of these purposes, it's the world up, not just us. We selfishly look at a bunch of this like it only is affecting us at the gas pump. It's people's kids that are starving because they can't do certain.
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And it's not just that price. Like you said gas price up delivery. So now everything that you get all the. Now what happens when that delivery, they're gonna pass that cost on to a customer.
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We like Uber, everything should come. It's high enough.
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Yeah.
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And you say that they were in negotiations and from what they shared, those negotiations seem to be getting somewhere before they were abruptly, abruptly ended. When they say that and when I hear that on an news, what are they negotiating?
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So the argument was is that us
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just going over there trying to get some shit and them saying no and protecting their resources and us not. And us not being happy with it,
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like get down the lay down type shit.
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It's a little bit of, It's a couple things. So basically the idea from Iran's perspective is, and we saw this with Syria, Iraq, other places too, is we have a right to develop uranium, for example. Uranium is important. You need uranium for lots of things, not just making bombs, but you do need uranium to make nuclear weapons. Israel in this case is saying we don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon because they pose an existential threat to us. Which is itself a conversation. That's another conversation for another time. I don't agree with that position. It's not a true position and ignores the fact that Israel also has its own nuclear weapons in Dimona in southern Israel. Right. But the point is, so the world's community saying, all right, you know, places
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that we're cool with having nuclear weapons, we have boots on the ground, some
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of them, or we have proxies. So like in Israel, we don't have boots on the ground, but we don't care.
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Right.
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In 1970, in the late 1970s, there's something called the Nuclear Non Proliferation Agreement which basically said that none of us, that basically we can't keep growing nuclear weapons because this has to stop, otherwise everybody's going to die. A lot of countries signed it. Some countries said we're not going to grow anymore. Other countries said we don't have any. Other countries said we're going to have them, but we're going to keep right where we are. Israel was founded in 1948, did not sign that agreement, but also isn't supposed to have them. That's why they'll never say we. They don't lie and say we don't have them because they want you to know they have them. But they won't say we have them because that would be a violation of the law. So it's a very fine line that a lot of countries thread. Other countries that we know have them that aren't supposed to happen. We Just pretend we don't know. It's like the homie in the club that got a gun, that got past security. We just, everybody be cool. If nothing happened, we'll be fine. But with Iran, they're like, man, here, shoot. Right, right. With Iran, what the world has basically said is, we don't want a war. We don't want proliferation either. So let's figure out how. You all cannot build a nuclear weapon. We want to stop you. So the agreement was. And this is what Obama came up with, right? This was the big Iran deal. They said, well, we'll make a deal with you. You can develop uranium, but not too much, not atomic levels. You can develop enough because you need it for heat. You need it for other things. There's lots of reasons to have it. You can develop it. You just can't develop it this much. Well, how do we know if they're lying or not? Well, it's hard to develop nuclear bomb in hiding, you know what I mean? Certain things you can do in a small room. A nuclear weapon ain't one of them. So the idea was we'd have the United nations inspectors travel over there on a regular basis, search the whole country. Everything's up for grabs. And we can look and see if you've built it. We can also see how much uranium you've been riding. This was part of the deal. Trump came in and got rid of the deal immediately. And you could argue they did that because they didn't really want peace. They wanted a beef with Iran. They wanted you to bump dude in the club so that he could pull out. You get what I'm saying?
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Why?
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Because Israel does not want Iran to exist.
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Okay, we're back to that.
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Yeah, this is not an American concern. This is an Israeli concern. And because the United States views Israel as its biggest ally in the Middle east and its outpost. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, we wanna follow their lead. And so in some ways, the tail is wagging the dog. We're the superpower, but we're following their lead because we have interests together. You know what I mean? So all that's tied together. So that's basically it. So the deal. So when Trump came, he blew it all up, no pun intended. And so now it became, sell that
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to the American mother that had her kid. Go out there and fucking think about it.
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One of my homegirls is in Qatar right now.
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Yeah, she went to school.
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Chihuahua wife. Matter of fact, yeah, it's in Qatar right now. And they.
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Family, shut up.
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And they saying that like, they f. She got kids and a husband and all of that. And they just like, yo is petrified. It's our kids over there, yo. I know another girl. Her peoples is in Bahrain. How you pronounce it? Yeah. Like that is crazy.
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It ain't
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Baron over there.
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Yeah.
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You get what I'm saying?
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Yesterday, my barbershop. Yeah. Her dude plays basketball over there. And they can't get out.
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And to your point too, when you like, why. So you want a beef? You really don't have a reason to beef. So you'll create the beef. Now it justifies me going, taking your shit. And we control our media, so we'll demonize them and make them look like the big bad wolf.
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We going over there beating up the big bad wolf. I could do a rock solid for Netanyahu and I can drive all the business up.
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Exactly.
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America.
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And that's the last piece. That's the piece that.
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That's the surface.
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Yeah. The money piece of it. There's something called disaster capitalism too. When you blow shit up, there's a lot of money in the cleanup. Whether it's a fight you start or a natural disaster, whether it's like Sri Lanka, whether it's Haiti with the earthquake, whether it's Katrina. You see who goes in there to clean them things up and makes billions. Yeah.
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Make money in that.
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Literally dark water. Did it. Or Blackwater. Right. When it was Trump in office, which Dick Cheney had attachments to. Now, Donald Trump don't even pretend to not be getting rich off of this shit. Donald Trump is very clear, we gonna get rich off this White House. And so when you see his connections and the money his family's making, it's also another layer to this, is if Iran, God forbid, were destroyed, and I hope it is not, what would that. What would the rebuilding look like? Who would be responsible for it? Just like we saw with Iraq, which is still in rubble in so many ways.
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Destroy Iran and What happens to 90 million people?
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They don't care.
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They don't give a fuck.
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I mean, in the case of Iraq,
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I mean, it's a lot of people to still not care about out.
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But so it's not. It's their problem. Same thing that happened with Afghanistan. Same thing would happen with Iraq.
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Iraq.
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Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, that's an afterthought to us.
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Yeah.
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We still get in our Benzes and
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drive around collateral damage, and then they point to those people and say, look what you made me do.
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Yeah, that Part that's the crazy.
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All of this sounds like why this should be an impeachable type of thing. Who gonna impeach him isn't somebody.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Isn't this something, this sounds like something that should be approved or voted. It sounds like it's too much at stake, too much at risk that one person or a few people should not be making this decision.
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And they're not supposed to. Congress is supposed to authorize war, but.
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So why is Congress's hands tied?
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Well, there's two scared of them. I was gonna say there's two problems. One they're scared of or three, one they're scared of. And two, executive power is, it is getting wider and wider. They're basically moving the checks and balances in a lot of ways. So presidents always have a way of blowing some shit up or starting something and saying this was not, this was in the boundaries of my powers and not a congressional issue. Particularly if they say it's an immediate strike. Something just happened. We had to act right away. We can't wait for a congressional vote to stop to protect American safety. So they bombed them in the middle of the night too, right? Exactly. And then the third part of it is that honestly Democrats and Republicans are equally shitty on this issue. They're all cowards and they all, they're all bought by the same interest. So it doesn't matter. We voted on, I mean, look at the Patriot Act. I mean after 9, 11, only one person didn't vote for that shit. Like Democrats vote for really bad things when it comes to overseas, just like Republicans do.
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I think all of them are on the tape, but it's.
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And they believe the propaganda.
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I don't think they believe it. I think what happens is I think that the bully, as long as he ain't fucking with me, I could turn a blind eye to it, right? Or if the bully is paying you,
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you on the bully side now?
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I'm on the bully side because it's not affecting me at my front door. I think humans worldwide, if something don't affect us directly, we kinda don't give a fuck. We'll say, oh damn, that's fucked up. But we won't be passionate about it because it's not having a direct effect on our children or our family. And so I.
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It was Americans in that motherfucking UAE airport, right?
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But Iran did that strike, right? So again it plays into if we think Iran and Iran now they're killing innocent Americans in other countries, right? So they make them the bad people. And I think it all comes back to pro wrestling for me. But if our entire life we've been taught that we're the good guys and they're the bad guys, they're the cheaters. Every move movie, every movie,
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I asked
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y', all, did y' all watch Tehran? That's literally this current season is them developing a nuclear weapon, trying to stop them.
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Well, this is lioness, too, but I'm
C
stealing the title from Bob Backlit.
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Not to be the TV guys in the middle of a real war.
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No, I'm just saying that's what it is. Everything. They're pushing this to tell you that, hey, that's the bad guy.
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Every dog is Russia or the Middle East. That is the bad guy, right? And every single movie is Russia, Middle East. And now they're pushing the China agenda. China be doing some in the new movies and new TV shows, but since we were kids, it's always been Russia, the big bad wolf in the Middle East. And, bro, that it just. It lessens the blow because we already are programmed to look at them as
C
the bad guys, right?
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It's already there.
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It's just up in itself. I agree.
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Like, yo, how do you tell me you got two guns, but tell me, yo, you can't create a gun, right? What? Because then that keeps your superiority here and keeps us subservient to you in the event that we ever have to get into a beef. You could bully me. Is nuts, bro.
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Rough times.
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It is scary times.
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For real. Praying for y' all out there, everybody, or absolutely praying for y' all out there. This shit is scary. Yeah. I can't even lie. Yeah, bro, I can't lie. It's scary. It's scary when you know it's scary out there. And then you can't turn on the TV because you're not getting accurate information.
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Even scarier.
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And then it's scarier when the government get on TV and make it sound even worse than it is. They just tame. Whatever happened to a charming president? At least the sound of his voice put you at ease a little bit. That dumb day, those days are.
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Oh, the thing is, now we know that, though that's been the case, they always was getting on the news, telling us the bullshit. But now we at the questioning age, like, hey, yo, that ain't right. Like, I don't believe them. We don't believe the news no more. Back years ago, bro, the news was the lie.
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They were still lying, and they were
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still lying, and they were still lying.
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They lied In a different way. And that's my point with Noam and Bondi and Cash Patel. They just sitting up there like y'.
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All.
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They've gotten to the point where it's like, so now I can't do.
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Yeah.
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So now we ain't even got to play them games no more.
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The public trust is at an all time low when it comes to politicians and politics and government because you have people saying, yep, I did it. And so. Or no, I ain't do that. Yeah, you right here saying, you did it.
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Nah, I ain't doing it.
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They literally be having split screens on these saying two totally different things, bro. They got Trump talking about Iran and how Obama's a mutt because he's about to pick a beef with Iran.
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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This whole timeline. And Biden's about to pick a beef with Iran because he sucks at diplomacy. Y' all should have never elected him who bombed Iran.
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Right?
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Like, this shit is crazy.
C
That's a great point you just made. There's a clip of Donald Trump in 2000. It's like seven of them. Yeah. Talking about Biden and Obama. You guys are gonna. In 11. It was Obama. I think that's what I saw last night. Well, he's basically telling America you guys are gonna enter an unnecessary war with Iran because y' all don't know what you're doing. And then the only one who did it somehow is him.
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Are we shocked?
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Same one that was saying he brought peace to the Middle East.
C
Right? This was the peace ticket. So all you dickheads that voted for Donald Trump because they said that they were the only people who wanted peace. And I heard a lot of people tell me that, that whatever you think about Trump, he minds his own business. All he cares about is Kamala gonna
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have us at war.
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Right? That's what they kept saying. And the piece of that. And look, Kamala Harris again, plenty of reasons to criticize her, but she wouldn't have been. She wouldn't have bombed Iran right now, I don't believe, again, what she did in Gaza was more than enough to not fuck with her. I'm not defending her, I'm just saying. But this is different. And the thing that people miss out on when they say Donald Trump only cares about money and therefore wouldn't bomb people is that that's where the money is. Gil Scott Haram wants once said, everybody love peace. The problem is you can't make no money off of it. And that is exactly how America and American capitalism works. The money is in the violence. And Trump got a whole lot of money to make from it.
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True.
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Fix your face.
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Fix your face. No, but we in the middle of
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a broadcast like you.
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Yeah, you watching that live on tv.
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It gets deeper. It gets way deeper.
F
You can't do anything about it.
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Like, they over there making deals with them.
F
Hold on, listen. And it seems like nobody cares. That's what makes it worse. Our family members. I lost a cousin. He got killed in Iraq in the war. You know what I'm saying, Nicholas? I lost. So I understand the pain and stuff like that that families go through. When you just going out and fighting a war that you have no business fighting. You know what I mean?
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Or that's not gonna benefit you, and it's not. Yeah, your kids will come back home missing a leg. And the VA treat them like shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, they can't even get housing. Like, it's crazy, bro. The shit that be going on out here and unfortunately is really the man with the money dictates everything that goes on.
F
This is the first time, though, I could say that even when watching it, I feel helpless. Like, yo, this more informed.
A
Yeah, Usually.
F
Usually you watch it and then the president, you know, some people will go against. And then the president would seem like he's understanding what the world is saying and say, okay, we're not going to do this. But this. The way he's moving. I feel helpless. It's like I'm. He's going to do what he wants when he wants to do it. It doesn't make sense to me. It's not even computing.
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It doesn't.
A
Oh, it's paradise, too.
D
Yes. Yeah.
C
Yes.
A
It's paradise, bro.
D
It's all of this on TV episode. If you really, really, really like the good shit. If you really start looking at it from a different perspective and a different lens, they telling you what's going on.
A
Yeah, I saw a list of. I saw a list because, of course, I'm down the YouTube rabbit hole and trying to just be curious and gain information. And I'm looking at all the damage that a nuclear weapon could do to so many different places. I'm learning so much about geography.
D
Just one. One.
A
And just one, bro. Nigga.
D
Just one, fam.
A
I'm learning about how much one cost. Yeah, yeah. How much some of this war shit costs. War is expensive. How little your bunkers will help you, depending on where you are in the country.
B
Yeah.
A
I think they said if we were to get hit, the five places in America not so protected is Wyoming. North Dakota because of what they store there. Wyoming because of what they stored there. Damn.
D
Well, Alaska might have been that were not protected.
A
It. Yeah. That the first places that would get hit in the event that we were under nuclear attack from somewhere. Wyoming is all a naval base. There a bunch of over there. You got to look it up yourself. It's just that they store over there that you would have to weaken if you really want to attack America. But I'm not getting into any of that.
D
Yo, did you see. Did y' all see the one. The looked like Top Gun with the pilot and they were shooting at him?
B
No, I didn't see it.
D
It was fake. That looked crazy.
A
America's nuts.
C
It's getting scary.
A
Yeah. We to the point now, man. When I spoke to my dad this morning and he. We ended the call with, yo, take care of what you can take care of. Everything else is out of your control. Your kids, your parents, your family. Worry about them. Call them, check on them. Cause Lord knows what the fuck is going on out there.
D
Think about that, though, and how it just leaves you helpless. So somber. Like when you hang up those phone calls and it's like, yo, dawg, I love you, man. Just. You know what I mean? Keep that in mind. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yo, you just. It fucks your day up. Like, it take you an hour or two to really decompress and get back to your normal day to day life and your normal day to day attitude, tattoos. This is crazy, bro. You know is nuts. Already out here starving and poor and jobless. Now y' all gonna add more expenses to their plate. Gas about to be high as giraffe, bro.
B
Word.
D
I remember. What was that, seven, eight years ago when they was rationing out the gas? You don't remember that?
A
Yeah, yeah, bro. That's crazy.
C
This is like you said, Home Depot gonna be crazy. That's for you. That's gonna be you, bro.
D
All of that.
C
How much your workers going to charge now, Flea?
D
Mr. Is, we need something.
A
Yo, yo, you stupid.
C
Lighten the mood, man. Two by four.
D
No problem.
A
Oh, man. Sky.
B
Yeah. Pallet cleanser here. Yeah, here we go.
A
Come on, man.
E
What's this?
A
Tell when ain't go to the black side of their family enough. You got to go to your black family reunions, too? Yo, Not that this song necessarily makes things better.
C
This ain't outstanding.
A
Nah, man, it's just very relevant. Very relevant. Very appropriate, man. All right. You're right. Right? Yeah. No, I can't do that. Yeah, let's get some war. Here we go. Some Temptations up in this piece. Who the is this?
E
What is that?
A
This ain't what I thought war was.
C
This the Temptation. This is the Temptation.
A
This is a version of War.
F
No.
A
Y' all know the one. What is. Try not to.
C
You went to Edwin Star.
A
This is nasty. Hold up.
C
The Temptations Nasty remix.
B
You guys sped up or they just
A
play it like that?
E
This song is good for absolutely nothing.
F
Hold on now.
E
Hold on, hold on.
A
Look how long you wait to start cooking. Look how long he waited to start cooking.
C
If y' all get Edward Starr on this motherfucker right away.
A
Yeah, I'm about to do that. But I'm crying, laughing. Because if I'm in the 60s and 70s and I'm singing and one of my group members is behind me talking about 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2. You're not getting big. If that was your role in our harmonies, you not getting bang. You hear this nigga Ola and lose their life. I said your ass the hey,
D
Yeah.
A
Temptations. Y' all got wiped down.
B
Clear.
A
Absolutely.
F
Say it again.
A
Nah, this was much. This is much harder. Listen to me. Yo, Temptations. Pack that up. Yo. Don't do that again. Temptations only keep that damn.
F
In the middle of Silent Night.
C
They killed that.
F
They killed Solid night. No plays. Yeah, but they.
A
This the Temptations. They kill Silent Night.
E
Absolutely.
A
Silent Night. Their version of war that needs to be silent.
B
Oh, Temps were first.
C
Yeah.
B
They were the first one to put it out.
A
So. Wait, this a remake.
B
Clean them up.
F
Yeah.
A
Oh, this is now.
E
It don't matter.
A
Yeah, it's not that make more sense than why.
C
Yeah, he smoker One friend only to the undertaker.
A
It's in Temptations. It's over. Temptations. Sorry. I know. I know you came out first, but we good. I never want to hear that again.
E
Yeah, right.
A
Yeah. It just sound like it was made when Babe Ruth was playing. That sound like it was made when they was inventing the first car. That is horrible.
E
Yeah, that gotta go.
F
Babe Ruth.
A
Sorry.
E
Tips.
A
Anything else important, or is it time to pay bills?
B
Time to pay bills.
A
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B
Let's go, Cory.
E
Let's go, Corey.
A
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E
Make some noise.
A
Make some noise for that.
B
That love.
A
It's beautiful when got a tv. A tv? A television.
F
What kind of tv?
D
That's what you want.
A
That's big for jail to do. That's big.
E
I'll light you up right now.
A
Cory went bought that mattress too. Oh, you furnishing.
F
Oh, Cory
A
for the TV in the mat. Cory say that green. What you say that asked me for. For the TV and the mattress plug.
B
Oh, no.
A
I thought it was for him. I'm like, yeah, he going to get me whack.
F
Sucker for love. Sucker for love.
D
Putting up in all the wrong paces.
A
Look at your face.
F
I know that move to you know what I mean? I'mma furnish your crib so you can just go in there and $4,000 king or something.
A
Were you able to get it for him?
D
No, no, no. My man ain't hit me back in time, though.
A
So did you pay full price?
F
Damn.
C
A mattress and a tv.
A
Mattress and a tv.
E
No, no, no. That's just what he is for.
A
I'm glad. I'm glad he know where your brain. Damn, man.
D
That's crazy. I ain't know it was for that, though.
A
If y' all buy a chicken mattress, do you take agency over who. Who's on it? It. Yes. You say yes?
C
He ain't even on the pod. Yes, yes, yes.
D
Y' all better.
A
Yo, my guy, I know y' all
F
better than I say yes.
A
Why, what you say?
B
I. I didn't say nothing.
E
What's your answer, though?
B
I ain't say nothing. He's smart. I like a peaceful household.
A
I ain't say nothing.
F
You know what the answer is?
A
What's your answer? Yes. Words. Words, words. Please use your words.
B
It's a sign language podcast.
A
Yeah.
E
Words.
D
You know what I mean?
A
Salute. It's so tough to get simple questions answered.
C
Some questions should be a little.
A
Is it such a simple question?
D
No. I say yes, you say yes.
C
Mark, I didn't understand the question.
D
If you buy a young lady, if you weren't married, you buy a young lady a mattress and then do you tell them you guys break up? Do you have agency over who gets.
A
Gets to keep the mattress or you don't break up?
C
I'm not following the question. I'm. I don't understand.
A
Oh, boy.
E
You saying in the breakup, do you repo the mattress?
D
No. Do you say, yo, that nigga can't sleep on.
C
Nobody can sleep. Yeah.
A
Keep control.
C
Nah, you can't do that. I'm joking. You can't do that. How you gonna do that?
A
What if her baby daddy is there late and he's been drink drunk? He's been drinking him and money back. Yo,
E
the Uber ain't stop starting.
F
Put two of them Home Depot garbage bags over it. They can drive stuff like this up and down. Bring that mattress over here. You sleep on the box spring. Even then sleep on the floor.
E
Give me the box spring, too.
D
I'mma give you a pallet of blankets.
E
And you better hit the floor.
D
Nigga, we from the bottom.
F
Fuck you talking about?
A
Crazy. So Money Bag, yo's moneybag. Yo's BM's ex boyfriend.
E
Okay, yeah, he the ex now.
A
He's the ex now. Went on a long rant, a public rant on social media about Moneybag yo being at the crib that he pays for.
D
Okay.
A
I want to find the rent. Because it's appropriate to our conversation that we're having, right?
C
Money Bag.
E
Yo's baby mom, she got a boyfriend, the dude that she was dealing with.
F
We're not talking about homegirl.
E
No, no.
C
Okay.
E
No.
A
All right, here we go. All right. The dude says, I'm just trying to figure out what Onddybag yo was doing at a house where I pay the bills at. I understand you and the lady's name have a baby together, champ, but don't disrespect the house where I'm taking care of everything. You wanted to see your daughter while in town, cool. But do that shit at your hotel or your bus or wherever. I just bought this girl a car two days ago. And she got the nerve to do some wild shit like this and have a nigga in the crib? Baby father or not, I'm out here funding this girl's whole life, everything she has from head to toe. Putting this man daughter in a private school that costs 2,400amonth, paying rent, getting her a car because she's been driving rentals for two years. And your baby father is Moneybag. Yo, make this shit make sense to me. And then you got the nerve to have this nigga in a house that I'm paying for at the lady's name. You've really lost your entire mind. Then this girl got the nerve to call the police to a house that I'm paying for because a nigga's in there at Moneybag. Yo, this shit is beyond wild at the lady. This whole thing, crazy. A man who don't even claim you or your child. And you got the nerve to play police games because he don't want to come out the house late? Distinguished gentleman, Distinguished panel. Panel of experts. I see how she looks. You gotta see that first. Let me send it to you.
F
I mean, what do you want to know, man?
D
Homeboy got a point.
A
I want to know whose side y' all are on in the matter.
D
Homeboy, y' all ain't valid. I don't think. Look, I don't think that you should stop the baby dad from visiting the child.
C
Not at all.
D
But he's saying that if everything he's saying is accurate. Cause it may be some bullshit in there, or it could be skewed view. But if homeboy is not claiming the child, don't claim you. I'm paying all your bills your whole entire life. And you got this nigga over there.
A
I didn't want him to say he's not claiming a child. He did.
E
He did claim your child. He said that that's why he's paying
C
for that private school.
E
But that could also just be her
A
telling him that that's also new boyfriend language for when you're watching something.
D
No, that's not necessarily true.
A
It can be, but all of these
D
things, I'm going by what he's saying. If everything that he's saying is accurate, then he definitely has valid points. I'm paying for school. Your baby father is Money Bag, yo, who I think, for all intents and purposes, got a couple dollars, and he not paying for the nothing. My man is right.
F
I'm with him on that.
D
Yo, you could come pick your kid up. You don't have to spend time in the house. You could come get your kid.
E
Correct.
D
You could do all of those things. You don't have to be in the house for an extended period of time
F
fucking a nigga in the car.
E
You don't have to be in the house.
D
No, you come in the house.
F
Yeah, mom, what you gonna say?
D
No, you can't.
C
I'm struggling with this.
A
No, you can't. Wait, say more. Freeze.
C
Yeah.
A
Speak from that perspective.
E
No, you can't. He said you could be in the house. No, you can't.
A
Why? But why?
E
Why you. It's just a respect thing to the household.
D
Like you.
E
You can come pick your children up outside.
C
I don't.
D
It's all like. He walk in and get the book bag?
E
No, nothing outside.
D
Wow.
A
What is this?
E
And I. I put myself in this.
D
The. The one time her.
E
Her baby dad came to pick up the kids in front of the house, walk them out to the car. My baby moms will come and drop my daughter off or pick her up, whatever.
A
Okay.
D
They.
E
Neither one of them have been inside the house.
C
Don't cross the threshold.
E
Yeah, you don't. You don't have to come in the
C
house
F
unless it's an understanding, though.
E
Right? If y' all got some understanding, that's different. It sounds like there's no understanding.
C
That's what I'm struggling with. Right. I don't think it's. I think everybody can make the rules that work for them and their family. So I don't think it's a right way or wrong way to do that thing.
D
I agree.
C
But I don't assume that because he came in the house that he's disrespecting the house.
E
True.
C
Especially if she let him in.
A
It could be.
E
If him and her Got something going. Like if they have some type of understanding here and you have him in the house, it's disrespectful to the house. He might not be intentionally disrespecting.
C
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
E
But it still could be disrespectful.
C
That's what I'm saying. So with that in mind, I'm not tagging money, that bag, yo, and none of this shit.
F
I think he stayed past a certain amount of time and.
C
Yeah, and that might be part of it too.
F
There gotta be a time limit.
C
But ISIS saying for him there is no time limit because there's no time in.
D
But did the girl call the police to get Money Bag yo out the house?
E
What I take from that, she called police on dude. Now my question is, it's a little bit more that I don't understand. Do they live together at this house or is he just paying her rent?
C
Me. That makes a difference too.
D
That does make.
E
Cuz that sounds from. From here, it sounds like that's her house, it's her crib, and he's paying the bills for the house.
C
Boom.
E
And if that's the case, that's a little different.
D
It's different. It's just. That's totally.
C
Well, that. That is a difference. Like if. If in the case you're talking about in your situation, it's y' all crib.
A
Yeah, yeah.
D
If he don't live there, then it's her crib.
C
When I heard that, to me, now I get it. If I'm paying the bills, maybe he feels like he has control over that crib because he's paying her whole life, as he put it. But to me, that's where his issue need to be, you know? And I. I'm never a fan of putting. I mean, to me, it's corny to
D
put any of that shit on social media.
C
Putting out on social media, tagging, everybody writing all that shit. I pay your whole life, I pay your bills. I just bought you a car. Cause you think you playing her out, but it's not the best look for you.
E
That's priority ego talking.
C
Yeah, but it's not doing what he think it's doing.
A
No, I mean, y' all are right. If we just being mature and thinking logically about it, then y' all are absolutely correct.
C
But.
A
However, I prefer him taking it to social media and adding moneybagg, yo, rather than handling it the way some handle it when they learn that it's a In a crib that they paying for, that they got a key to with somebody that they love.
E
It sounds like he might have been.
D
He might have DM him or you DM him or not.
E
He might have been there. He might have been there to do that.
F
I'll be in the crib.
E
And she caught the cops.
A
She. Look, yo, you DM him.
D
You don't put that in the public like that.
A
And.
D
And he said so much. Even if you put it out there. Yo, big dog, Holla at me when you get a minute. You know what I'm saying? Yo, big dog, I need to holla at you about some things. I don't wanna take this to turn left. Holla at me? Yeah, you did all of that stuff. That's. That's not for that purpose.
A
Freeze. In your situation. Do you know if the baby daddy is a cool nigga?
D
He's cool.
A
Like, you think he's cool.
E
We're cool. Yes.
A
Yeah. Like, I feel like if I'm home and I think the dude is all right, he maybe could come and get. Sit in the. Waiting in the living room. Yeah, sit right there. She'll be the kiddo, B.
D
Get the book.
E
Yeah. I want to be.
A
I want to have that type of. I want to be healthy enough to be able to do that. If it's an option, I agree. But again, the way me and my family look at blended families maybe is different from how much.
D
Nah, I think that's a mature. I think that's a maturity thing. I think that we should get to a place where our baby mothers, baby fathers, whatever the case may be, to where cordial is cordiality to work. Right? It's just a thing like,
A
Cordiality.
D
We don't even have to be beefing like, yo, fam, if you have your girl come pick up the kids, and my kids know your girl and all of that stuff and got a good rapport. My daughter tells me that your girl takes care of them in a great way. I think that that's what we should be striving for as adults.
C
Does it change if you're not there?
D
No. Because that's where you're trusting your girl comes in, right?
C
I agree.
E
Like, we have that, my blended family, on both sides between her baby father, my baby moms. We have that. Like I told y', all, we did my daughter's birthday party. My girl's there, my baby mom's there. They hug when they see each other. Every time I see her baby father. Yo, what's going on? We Dap each other up. Yo, I'll take the bags from him while she's putting the kids in.
C
Like, we cool.
E
Everything is cool. There's no beef on any side. It's just, if you coming to pick up real quick and we already got everybody ready. What you waiting in the house?
A
There's no need.
C
What if you need to go to the bathroom?
E
You a man.
B
Find a tree.
A
God damn. Okay.
E
We mending my neck.
C
No judgment. I'm just trying to understand what the boundaries are, Okay?
A
I am for a one.
D
You won't see this half a bath.
A
Yo, that's crazy. I'm playing.
E
I'm playing. If a nigga really like.
C
But you gotta really gotta go.
E
We not number two. You ain't shitting in my house. But like I said, we don't have no beef. Yeah, we have no beef. Like, she. My bm, has sent me messages like, yo, listen, can you piss out your yard?
C
I love how.
E
How good she is with, you know, with Arya. I love that she has that love on both sides. Her baby father is like, yo, thankful for, dude, for me, for, you know, taking it like. Like, it's all appreciation.
A
All right, slow down. You're going crazy now.
E
I'm fam. We are we. Listen, y' all know the. That I was going through before, so. Yeah, I'm going crazy right now because I'm. I'm happy to be at this space
A
that we made some new. No, make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. That's real. That's real shit.
D
Nah, that's fire. I agree.
A
I'm in a good space, too.
E
Yeah, I love that shit.
A
You know, last time I did ask to use the bathroom, she said no. She did say no. Cause you.
F
You came on air talking about the shut by the door.
A
She said no. Like I could hold it. She said no. Like I had a choice. One of her neighbors right on the door. Sorry. Got it. Sorry. She said no. Fa. In the back of the truck. Look at Joe Button being a man. Oh, my God. Yeah, man. Shout out to the people out there. Co parenting. Getting it right. Getting it right, huh? Fixing it for generations to come after you. God damn it.
F
Not at all, nigga. I have too much cameras in my crib. Hey, yo, tell that nigga get out of the kitchen. Nigga, go sit in the foyer.
C
Don't.
F
I'm calling.
A
The kitchen is where he gonna make his move when you're not home.
D
Yeah, countertop. Right.
A
Right there. The kitchen is. Oh, no, the kitchen is where you go, man. Freak. She gonna reach for the cabinet to get the sugar for the coffee. He gonna say, you still remember how to make my coffee?
F
No, no, no.
A
You mad short. Let me get that. Let me get that.
E
Reach right behind you gonna let do
A
that in your kitchen.
D
Got that loosey goosey sweatpants, all that Be right.
A
Wait, hold up now. What you got on and out?
C
Sweatpants.
E
He said the loose sweatpants.
A
When your baby dad come over, what's
D
she supposed to have?
A
Dungarees, some stiff. The stiff ones too.
C
Overalls, you know.
A
Yeah, talking about gun is off that get the flapping. Nah, you can't play with like that. Oh man, he in that kitchen. You know the toes out.
D
She tried to show the. Ah, she came out with that shit on. Low key though. Little long T shirt, sweatpants.
A
Chance it do be fun. A chick in the crib. Where you know somebody? Some nigga's paying the rent because she ain't got to go nowhere. She just in there. She bring everybody through there. That should turn into the fun house when a paying the rich.
E
No, it depends.
A
And she got some friends right where the live, cuz?
E
They be turning right.
A
What they turn that up? They think it's college time again.
E
I get what you said. Could be a little too close.
D
That live too. Yo, that's it.
E
Could go left.
D
A good feeling.
E
It could go left.
D
I've definitely got some. Yeah.
E
I mean, no.
D
My eye on the door.
A
It is tough to flirt and cheat and like when your partner knows where you are.
D
What?
A
Like when your partner knows exactly where you at. Like your location. I mean, paranoid, trying to. Trying to get it off. I don't know nothing about that. Everybody one. Hey, hey. The front of every car look like a car. All headlights look.
D
They going to tea.
A
That go T. They T. Yo, girl,
E
can away from me, girl.
A
Yo, that's. I'm talking about the old days, man.
D
I'm talking about the old.
A
You've never. What? See, we was moving on.
C
No, no, no.
D
Like if I cheated. I never cheated. Like in my house with my girl.
A
What you mean if I have it? Did you say?
D
Oh, no. When? I'm saying when I cheated. Cheated. I never cheated in my house where my girl or my significant other at the time had access.
A
Well, you cheated Hawaii or some, right?
D
Something exotic hotel or something like. I just think that is playing this, man.
A
We was cheating right behind that Trader Joe's. What are you talking about? And what in the spot?
E
He's saying the hotel, but I'm saying it's nearby.
A
It's close.
D
It's not my house.
E
It's different when you get caught in your house.
A
Should not be doing that in their house.
C
Yes, that's what I'm saying, man.
A
You said I did that before.
E
I did. I did. Y' all know what happened.
D
I think that's crazy.
C
What makes somebody cheat in their own house? Is that just the thriller? The thriller, the risk.
A
Comfort. Comfort. I know every exit. I know every fire escape. I know every creek in the door. I know the creeks in the floor. It's nice.
D
And that's why you got caught.
A
I know.
E
Yeah. I'm not doing that.
A
Ice, you got caught cheating before? Yeah.
F
He told the story in his house.
D
Eating mocks.
E
All right, all right, right.
A
You got caught eating it. Yo. You told the story, but it was
E
a long time ago when we rehashed old chili.
C
So you got caught in your own crib.
A
How you get caught eating in. You can move your face, stupid.
F
He just.
D
He ain't know she was there.
E
I didn't know. She walked in my.
A
That's how you know. You a super eater.
F
That's how.
A
That's how you know. I ain't even hear the dog no more. See, you got to eat her face, too. It's crazy.
E
While eating the box.
F
Siri, play this.
C
When she walked in. What you do?
A
How you.
C
What happened? She walked in the room.
F
She cut the up.
E
She walked in. My back was to the door, but was you.
A
Was you doing your numbers before you came in?
E
I was doing my numbers.
A
All right.
E
And Shorty. I just heard Shorty go, yo, who. Who that?
D
Oh, you wasn't doing your numbers, cuz. Shorty wasn't that conscious.
A
Shorty was mad alert.
E
Okay.
A
Hey, there's a water leak. There got to be a water leak up there. Hey.
E
Oh, no.
C
She said, who that?
E
I turned around, like, oh, and Shorty just turned around and ran out.
A
Oh, yeah. You wasn't killing this.
E
Talking about.
A
She was supposed to fight.
C
She wasn't violating.
A
Supposed to fight for you.
C
Oh, no.
E
She came back and forth.
C
She cut you or the other girl?
E
No, the house.
D
That's the one. She chopped up all the cords, and she got the.
C
She ripped devices.
F
She got by that refrigerator.
D
She got to get a nigga back.
C
Yeah.
E
No, no, she did it.
A
She.
E
She won.
A
What do you gentlemen think? Friend of the show, bro. Rilla, Put out a pick of that camel tone. Put out a pick of that nice, fat moose knuckle.
C
I hate that I missed this. And Joe sent it to us.
A
I sent it right to Your phone. If. If you have not seen it yet, please open up your phone. Most of the fellas. It's in the group chat is. I send it right to that dusty Android you got. Please open it up now. Remember, this adds a lot more clarity to why Mark was trying to do this interview and was ready to pay. Ready to pay that money. Ready to pay for it.
E
I get it.
A
All right. What do y' all think? Come on, come on, come on.
B
Stuckle.
A
Review that sitting a little bit. Come on. Hello.
E
See how fat my out there?
D
She got. What fat mom.
A
Does this change you guys view? No, look again. Look again.
E
I saw it. No, it doesn't change.
F
We saw it twice. We good.
D
I'm good.
A
We good. Salute.
D
I'll pass.
F
We good on the. On the. On the hardware moves. I go.
D
You won't pop.
A
That could have been said long, long, long before. I was about to say you. You changed. I was saying she got a. Go get me a Dutch or something to the storm. She got. Take this pack. Call me when you finish. Oh, yeah. Yo, you need to.
E
You need the bag.
F
Put some gas in.
A
Yo, you need the bag. Like she was out. I mean, y' all laughing, but friend of the show. Fredo. Bang Fredo.
D
Bang Fred.
A
I always say Fredo. They be it up. He had liked. He had hit the like. Like he was trying to like something else, but he.
B
Sometimes you accidentally hit.
D
That happens.
B
Yeah.
A
So he had liked the little fat ma pick a bro Rilla, which is dangerous because he opened it up for her to dub him. So she. She dubbed him.
D
You mean how she doubled.
A
I gotta find it. She said, I don't want to have.
D
She said. She said something for real for her.
A
Yo, come on. I hate y'.
D
All. Nah.
E
Cause I didn't know none of this.
A
This be. I hate y'.
C
All.
A
Bro.
C
Bro.
E
Don't pop up on my algorithm.
A
It don't. Yes.
D
Why did it pop up on yours?
B
It completely missed mine. Only Jim Carrey.
A
She said, where in the is young boy? You forgave this. Now he want to pop out with his inflated ass face. I don't know your lame ass ABC rapping swole face. Mixtape maker can't. Can't afford an album. Ass out of here. Y' all want to be so relevant and want to bring me up because y' all rap career is trash. Go stand in the unemployment line or something.
C
Yo, she gassed right now. It's crazy.
E
Yeah, my.
C
Yeah, I'm.
A
I'm good. Okay, So y' all don't care about her moose knuckle. Moving on. No, we don't. Moving on. All right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for inconvenience in you guys.
C
Absolute, you know, moving aside aside from her for a second.
E
I just got a question about the moose knuckle.
A
Okay, so you are interested in it.
B
Moving to the side is crazy.
E
If you post the moose knuckle, would you like that's some type of bait, right, or something?
A
So the.
E
That like it. Now you. You. You start shooting at him.
F
That nigga's really talking about this.
B
I think I got the same boxers.
D
Yo, Op dog, I ain't gonna hold you.
E
It look like set it off part
D
two about to come.
C
Do moose knuckles. Do it for y'.
B
All.
C
Like, when y' all see the picture.
A
Do that depends on what you say, doctor. I didn't hear you. What you say? Look at the range goes from my red to this freaky. Dr. He want try to use us.
C
I'm just sad cuz, people.
D
Yeah, it depends on the legs and the feet and the face and all the other stuff attached, you know?
F
He going to talk about the feet.
C
The feet.
F
I like pretty feet too.
E
But they doing some fire poses out here.
F
It's just crazy,
D
fam. It depends on all the other stuff attached to the moose knuckle, but just
C
the moose knuckle itself. Don't, don't. Don't get it done.
D
The moose knuckle attached to a camel or a moose.
A
You never mean. Yeah for me either.
E
What about you, doctor?
C
No, that's why. That's why I asked, because I was like, it's plenty of other things to get it done. But I never seen, like, the moose knuckle and be like, oh, yeah. It ain't never moving from, like, on the fence to yes or from no. That's what I'm saying.
A
It's one of those things.
E
He might really be the one.
A
It could. It could.
E
It could.
D
From eh. To.
B
Yeah, it could take it. Yeah, it could.
A
It could move a little bit.
B
Yeah, a little bit.
D
Yeah.
B
If it's right on the edge.
A
No. Yeah. No, no.
C
Is it Pierce five slider points.
F
Yeah. Are y' all serious?
A
We sound like horny cavemen.
D
We do.
E
Typically, sometimes the Pierce moose knuckle is nice.
A
Look what?
D
Look.
A
Look how bro Rilla got y'. All. Bro Rilla got the bros going crazy
B
if we have matching BR boxers.
E
Good.
A
I'm cool. That did make me think of what, like, the stud sexy pics is on, like, when they trying to get in their bag.
C
Yeah.
F
What the. Yo, what's wrong with who?
A
Whoever they.
D
I think they got two different approaches.
C
Yeah, I don't think Moose Knuckle getting it done for the studs.
A
Okay, moving on. Moving on. Moving on.
E
Moving on.
A
Moving on. Moving on, Moving on, moving on. Come on. Somebody read something up there, please. Read something up there, please. Two more, please.
C
Well, go ahead, please.
E
Oh, well, we was talking about sports. Y want to get into.
A
No, we was talking about pussy.
E
We did the sports before. I was going. We talking about.
B
No, but it's still. It's still. You could have used a segue better speaking boost.
E
Knuckles.
B
Yes, Luke Cornet had a little issue.
A
Is that when you were going freeze? Not freeze.
E
Sorry.
C
I'll try it next week. Would have been fine. Like he said, speaking of basketball.
A
All right, so Lou Cornette is a Hayden ass white boy. Lou Cornette is the backup center for the San Antonio Spurs. You get a lot of minutes, sometimes he plays along. He's on Spurs.
E
Oh, I ain't know that. I thought he was still on Celtics.
A
Go ahead. Thought he was on the Jazz or some shit, right?
D
Nah, Celtics.
B
It would have made sense on the Jazz.
C
Yeah, it would have, actually.
A
In Utah, Luke Cornette called on the Atlanta Hawks to cancel their upcoming collaboration with Magic City, saying he and other NBA players were surprised by the team's decision to promote the adult entertainment club. The spurs center wrote Monday that allowing the March 16 event during the Hawks game against the Orlando Magic would reflect poorly on us as an NBA community, specifically in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. Regardless of how a woman finds her way into the adult entertainment industry, many in this space experience abuse, harassment, and violence to which they should never be subjected. Cornette added in a blog post. The Hawks announced a promotion last week saying it would include a live performance by Atlanta native T.I. and have two versions of magic City's fame, chicken wings and a special hoodie available for purchase. Where do we stand on this?
C
I stand with him. I think he's right. I think he's 100% right. And I'm. I don't have an issue with Magic City. I like Magic City. Used to go great wings. I don't know if I want my NBA brand attached to it. I think adults can make decisions about what kind of places they go, and I think that there's nothing wrong with women doing that work or men doing that work. But I think when you start to win the league, which is From a business perspective, I think it's a bad business move outside the context of Atlanta. But also, I think when you start supporting or branding strip clubs on your
A
stuff,
C
they all start to get lumped in a little bit. Like Magic City, I think, is actually a good, reputable spot. But there's lots that aren't like he said. And that whole underworld that is attached to it will get glamorized because people don't know the difference between Magic City here, Piccadilly there, night on Broadway here, so and so, you know, et cetera, et cetera. Like, they don't know those distinctions.
A
Well, I just want to say that on Atlanta's press release, it said nothing about Magic City, bitch. An adult entertainment place, more so spoke about it like a restaurant. Does that change your view at all? Lou Cornette is the person saying, hey, this is what this place is, and this is why it's bad.
C
Because. But I think people know, I think Magic City's such a brand name, even outside of Atlanta, that I think it is different. That's why I don't like it. Cause I think it almost. I don't wanna say normalizes it. Cause there's nothing abnormal about Magic City, but it sanitizes some of the stuff that he's talking about. And I think it still will glamorize strip clubs in a way that we might not want to do in a family business.
E
I'm just saying, for people that have this stance, do we feel the same way about how the league has embraced gambling? Yeah, there's an underworld attached to that. There's all of. And I think this is a Magic City. You don't even have to be. You could have never visited Atlanta, never been there, don't know shit about Atlanta. You have heard, heard the importance of Magic City and what it means to Atlanta. So if the team is trying to honor something that is culturally significant to the city, I don't see anything wrong with that.
A
By highlighting the restaurant portion of the business.
E
They said they got strippers out here, bro.
D
The strip club scene in Atlanta is cultural, I think that you can't stand on the side of, we support women's rights to do whatever they want. We stand with sex work. We stand with this, we stand with that. And then make this distinction as if it's a dirty thing and it sends a bad message to the world.
A
Well, the NBA wouldn't be saying we stand with sex work.
D
I'm giving you an example. I'm talking about from just a theoretical standpoint. People say, yo, we stand with this. And women should have their right to do whatever the case may be. Yo, women are. Let me be careful. I think that's a woman's decision. Like we, we, we parade the Dallas cowgirl cheerleaders with little shit on and, and halter tops and short shorts and all that other shit. I'm not saying that they're equal, but I'm saying they are in the same vein.
A
I agree.
D
In my opinion. And so I don't think that we make a distinction between cheerleaders that we've been pushed, Laker girls and all that shit we've been pushing out to the world for the last 30, 40 years. And make a distinction between Magic City. They not coming there with thongs on.
E
And again, they not making. They ain't said nothing about bringing no girls from this. They're all part the Wings merch with the name on it.
C
Yeah.
E
And we're on. And we have T.I.
A
who?
E
Atlanta legend. So we're still just paying homage to Atlanta. Yeah, I think they've separated the two.
C
Go ahead.
F
Lost his money.
C
That's it.
F
He went there and they got him. If you don't shut your ass up. Yeah, we talking about culture, man. Like he said, man, it's part of culture, you know, to pay homage to Atlanta and this culture and what's going on. I think that's the right thing to do. Even if we say Magic City, we know it's a strip club and a restaurant, but highlighting a restaurant is not a bad thing. I think it's important if we know. If you know, you know. But they still doing it in a classy way. I look at it as a classy way. We gonna highlight the restaurant and big up Magic City. Cause it's part of the culture.
A
But those who don't know, I would agree with you, Mark. If it were a league wide tribute. Like if it were every NBA team in every arena being tied to a local strip joint for one night. All right, we doing a lot. But what that scene means to Atlanta, the symbolism that it has. Like, I still think that regions should run their sports arenas.
C
That's tough when you talk about collective bargaining and collective revenue and one team impacting another. I agree that you should be able to have a. It should feel local. I agree with that. But I do think this affects the NBA brand overall. I agree with you with the gambling thing. I think that's why I don't support gambling for the NBA for the same reason. Because I think there's a dangerous underside and I think you know, we're. It's slippery when the league starts to. I support the gambling apps. I support all that. I just don't support the league getting in business, getting in bed with it. And I agree with you with the cheerleaders, too. That's why I think that that's also a very problematic thing. You know what I mean? I think that kind of objectification is a problem and we shouldn't do it. So I'm trying to be. I'm consistent across the board in saying I think all of it is a problem. Again, I think women should be able to work in strip clubs. I think we should be able to go to strip clubs, men and women, whoever wants to go. I'm not against that. It's a.
A
It.
E
I know you do.
C
Yeah. Even though I don't go anymore, I've certainly spent a lot of time in them. So I just.
D
Time
B
a couple things.
C
Yes. Time, money, all. And, And I really enjoy Magic City when I've been. You know what I mean?
A
I.
C
But, like, that's not. That's not the point for me.
B
Good ass wings.
C
The wings are. I wouldn't be a friend. The wings are delicious.
A
Wings are good, man.
C
But for me, it's two things. One, I don't think it's a good. I don't think it's a good business move. But again, it's, it's. I don't. And I don't want to go in a circle. It's just the tying it to the league for me is problematic because it won't just be Magic City. I know the slippery slope argument can be lazy, but do we just stop with this local one? Are there other local cultural things that might have an underside to it or underworld to it that we willing to allow? Whether it's weed, whether it's this, whether it's that.
A
I think that's an owner's call. I think that's a owner's call and an owner's decision to make big. If you want to try to run that up in Miami through Mickey. What's his name?
C
Harrison.
A
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I don't. Good luck with that. I don't. I see you having a hard time with that. If you want to try to get Dolan to approve that, good luck. You're going to have a hard time with that. I think the Atlanta. I think this is very specific to the Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta ownership and the Atlanta organization. And listen, I, I agree with you. I agree with you. I think Luke cornett Is. Is 100% correct in what he's saying. I just ain't vibing with it because it's Luke Cornette out of here. Luke Cornett. I ain't letting you say that. If it was SGA Anthony Edwards or somebody with a little more sauce maybe. But Luke Cornett wasn't trying to take his big 7 foot 4 ass to Magic City anyway and enjoy wing him. And you did that when it ain't even the spurs playing.
E
That's what I called it.
A
Ain't even a Western.
C
It ain't even a Western Conference.
A
Nah, he gotta get the out of here.
F
Mind your business.
A
Mind your business. Need to come back dumb ass up. Get Luke Cornette the fuck out of here.
D
Get your dumb ass up.
A
We just said that way.
F
Yeah.
A
Big tall goofy man.
D
That's mind your business nowadays. That's tfu.
A
But I do agree he's right, but he's wrong. But you gotta score more than me
B
Mark looking for singles right now.
F
No, no, no.
D
He's wrong because we don't draw the line when it come to other establishments and what their interests are when it comes to like some of these sponsors be having low key up principles and. And be. And be supportive of way worse than a strip club. And we don't say none of that.
C
Yeah. And I think we should not rocking with that. I think we should.
D
Some of these companies, whether it be insurance, whether it be whatever that be sponsors on jerseys, be in bed with some of the worst of the worst. And we don't say nothing about that
C
Is a great point.
D
Get the out.
E
That's a great point, Luke.
A
That's a.
F
A great point.
A
Luke Cornett.
C
I stand with you, Luke.
A
Spank the spurs by damn near 40 the other night, man. Stop playing with us. Stop playing with us. Spanked them by doing that 40 the other night. I gave the tickets to my dad.
E
You learned you got in there, you
D
would have been there when Deanna would have had a quadruple double.
A
A few. A few points. A few quick points. This is how you know the world is absolutely going to shit. If you needed more evidence of this Luigi homeboy. That healthcare murder.
D
Allegedly.
C
Yeah.
A
Luigi the musical.
B
Oh God.
A
Is apparently headed to Hell's Kitchen June 15th.
E
So what are you gonna sing while he shooting?
A
I repeat, what? Luigi the musical is headed to Hell's Kitchen next month.
C
I'm here for it.
A
Apparently this show. This show has already premiered in San Francisco last year. Luigi the Musical.
B
That's sick.
A
And I just think Luigi having a musical isn't it Is Absolutely nuts. During a trial.
D
You lost, bro.
E
Yeah, I gotta check.
C
During a trial's interesting.
A
During a trial. You have Louise.
C
During a trial.
A
That, that, that.
E
That's.
C
If I would be worried about this selection of the jury pool and tainting the. The, the. The people who are participating in the process. Other than that, I'm okay with it. Again.
E
All right, Luigi. The musical is a satire prison comedy inspired by the bizarre true story of three high profile inmates housed together at mdc.
A
Him, Puff, and. And somebody. See, this is. This is crazy.
C
I need to know more about the premise. Cause they could be making fun. Like they're not glorifying them. Right.
A
How can this not be glorification?
E
The twisted satrical comedy provides a bold, campy, and unafraid take on the accused assassin's life in lockdown while on trial for the murder of the dad of two. It is marketed as a tale of love, murder, and hash brown browns. This reference to Manioni scarfing down the McDonald's menu item before his arrest.
D
Yo, what they doing is basically making a.
A
A.
D
A satire about society and showing them a mirror.
C
That's. That's what I thought it was something that was satirical.
D
Yeah. It analyzes the societal factors that led to Manion's actions and the public's reaction, questioning whether he should be viewed as a murderer or a martyr or a cultural mirror.
A
You know, America.
C
I might not. That's what I'm saying. Like, that's what art is supposed to do.
D
I'm okay with it. I might not. Yeah. I might not be against.
C
Don't put it on a jersey.
A
You guys are part of the problem. You guys. I mean, just another check on the list of ways that America undermines murder.
D
Or not.
F
Not.
E
Well, it says.
D
Or not.
A
During a trauma.
D
No, I. I don't. I don't agree with the timing, but I might do agree with the time. And Joe, you got to think about it.
C
If we.
D
If we saw this. Let's Ho ho.
A
Then our justice system is flawed. If you agree with the timing of it.
D
No, no, no.
B
Our justice system is definitely.
D
We've known that.
A
True.
D
But think about this. If we saw this go in a movie, right? If we saw this in a movie. And let's just say I don't want to. I'm just. And I want to be respectful because somebody lost their life. But let's frame it as is this big company.
A
You're right.
D
This is the CEO of the company doing all of this. Wicked.
A
You're right. Ish. Right.
D
And this person Comes out of nowhere based on whatever information they have, and they end this to now stop this abuse of power. We would look at that person in a favorable light on a movie.
C
Yeah.
A
When did the movie release? When did the trial. When did the movie release? Because by that. That point, it may be well established amongst the people that. That. That is how he's looked at now, right this second. And during a trial, you can't get
D
that establishment by the people without the information. So now this boy's family got some money. They might have put some money behind this to. Now, I want y' all to view my son from a different perspective in a different lens.
E
Well, I think it's the director here, but it says we're not valorizing any of these characters, and we're also not trivializing any of their actions or alleged actions. So it seemed like they're not even focusing on the. What you did. It's kind of just making. Because it's satire.
A
Listen, I didn't even bring it up. Don, unpack it. I brought it up. It's like a wtf?
D
Wow.
A
I had to rewind the news. Thank God for TiVo or whatever I got on my shit. Yeah,
B
I'm reading a quick some Synapsis review of it, and it's. It's focused on the dude from ftx and Diddy being looked at as villains while he's looked at as a hero by society is essentially kind of the. The theme.
A
I agree with y' all that it sounds interesting.
D
I would. I would like to watch it, dog.
A
The in San Francisco was a hit. The in San Fran was a hit. Sold out.
D
I might go watch this.
C
I would definitely go see it. I mean, Hell's Kitchen.
A
Tough to get a Fear track.
C
Well, I'll tell you one thing. This ain't a whodunit, though. I mean, as much as he's valorized and loved.
F
He did it.
C
He did it. I mean, like, this ain't a. Or if you think he didn't, this ain't gonna change it. I guess I'm saying.
A
Well, he pled not guilty.
C
Oh, I know.
F
Well, he just said he didn't do it, though.
A
But he pled not guilty, and a trial is set to happen. Yeah, the trial part has my mind blown, but y' all looking at me like I'm an alien, so fuck it.
C
I would feel different if I thought the outcome of the. That his. That due process of fairness would be undermined by this.
A
Would you feel different if you were related to the deceased?
C
No, I feel different. About the play, but I wouldn't feel like it was any more or less fair to have the play.
A
Got it. Yeah. I can't say it, but if it's
E
still popping next year, maybe I'll see it.
A
But write this up second.
F
There's some shows that came out while Niggas is on trial.
A
You just.
C
I was seeing that with Diddy, too. We seen 15 Diddy shows a week.
A
And you can't say.
F
I mean, R. Kelly did it, but there was a show about him.
A
Well, musicals and Broadway stuff is supposed to have a different type of prestigiousness.
D
I hate what you're saying to it.
A
No, no, no, no. Hell no.
E
Maybe Broadway. This ain't Broadway.
C
It's off Broadway.
D
And dog, the. The. Even if it was on Broadway, the
E
arts of the arts, man, it still
D
won't reach as much people as a documentary on Netflix. It's not going to reach the same amount. The amount of people.
E
Yeah, you got to physically go see this.
D
Like, maybe the show might have a little bit more money or a little bit more status, but that Netflix was worldwide.
C
Yeah, yeah. This is.
A
I can't. You can't say that because all of this stuff that gets signed today gets signed with adaptation rights. Oh, he says it could.
C
We don't know that.
E
But I'm talking about what I'm saying right now during this thing.
D
For now, this is a small off Broadway play, but again, take it to Broadway. It could be at the Winter Garden Theater. It's still a Broadway play that's gonna be seen by a select few in regards to a big ass Netflix documentary that was number one on Netflix. Netflix for weeks.
A
Tim, check with y'. All. Y' all think he's getting off? Who?
E
I think.
D
I don't know. I don't think it's as cut and dry as people think.
A
So you don't know.
C
I think it's an absolute guilty.
A
You think he's not. All right. Why do you think that?
C
Because all the reasons that make it complicated, the jury's not gonna have access to. I'm not saying the truth of it might not be complicated, but I'm saying this case is going to be simple. I think the jury's gonna see him shoot somebody. They gonna see. I mean, I think the evidence looks very clear. And I don't think that. I don't. I don't think that the defense is gonna be able to put up a sufficient defense to stop that. That's what I think. Again, I'm not saying. I heard all y'.
A
All I can't say until. Until I see if they threw that book bag out. If the book bag he was arrested with is not allowed to be entered into evidence where the letter was and where some ammo was. And if they gotta prove a case without that bookbag, then I gotta see.
C
Unringing the bell is hard, though, I think.
A
I think, especially when it's a musical,
C
I think it's gonna be tough. I think it's gonna be tough. If anything, I think Luigi. If I were Luigi, I'd be saying it's hard for me to get a fair trial based on what the media's done, based on the story that's been told already.
D
Can he?
C
Maybe not. But that's why I think he's gonna be found guilty very fast. Again, I'm not saying it's fair or not. I'm just saying I think that's outcome is going to be fast.
B
Unless there's some procedural shit or something like that, which could happen, which goes
C
back to unringing the bell part. Sometimes you can throw. You can throw away that evidence. But most Americans think he did that shit.
E
Yeah, but it's a lot of Americans. It's not a question of did he do it or did he not do it, but there's a lot of people that think he was justified in doing
C
it and would look like a jury nullification. That's interesting.
F
That's the guy.
D
I don't. I think what happens in the media is that we get told what to think. And I think a lot of times when you start adding up the mathematical shit, like they talked about his bus ride, I mean, his bike ride from where he was staying, allegedly to the hotel, and the time that he got to set up and wait for this man and all that other shit, it just seems not plausible to me.
C
Who do you think?
D
I don't know. And I think, and I think that this man was such a public figure and such a. For him to know where he was going to be at this time of night, walking from a bar by himself. He's the CEO of a major corporation in the United States, why he wasn't in the Uber, all of that shit. I don't think that this guy would have all of that information to know about that. And to be able to ride from his hotel again in that amount of time to get set up, plot to shoot on his dude as he walked down this particular box. I just don't think. I think it was more of a hit than that, than some of.
C
Patsy.
D
Yeah. Then this Random dude, like, he don't know what direction he was gonna walk. Let's say he came from this way. Now you behind this car over here on some dumbo shit. He walk in the hotel.
E
Like, you don't.
D
It's too many.
F
But what if you've been watching him? Okay, what if you watched his patterns and you know, he don't live in New York.
D
He was staying in a hotel.
C
He was visiting.
F
But that doesn't mean he couldn't watch him before. Ish.
E
True, true, true.
D
But maybe he took an Uber home that day. You get what I'm saying? It's just so many factors that to me, he. And I don't want to be insensitive, but just so many factors that he wouldn't have the ability to know.
E
Now let me ask you, what if. Okay, what if he tried this the day before and he did take the Uber home?
A
What if?
E
You know what I'm saying? Like, you could have been plotting this out, and now I got my shot and I did it.
D
I think that you would have been there an hour before time. But it's cool.
A
We'll find out what's going on when the trial. That. That trial is coming soon, so we certainly will find out. Also in legal news while I'm here, they've shown us all of the video of Shia Labelf in New Orleans. Arrested the first time. I hear he's been arrested again. They showed us him getting beat up. They showed us him drunk, out of control, just belligerent and unhinged, which was cool. I appreciate the Internet showing me when celebrities get like that. However, Justin Timberlake is fighting to. To seal his foul from when he was pulled over for drunk driving in the Hamptons.
F
What year?
A
And I won it. What do you mean what year?
E
You know, he was recently, you know.
A
Yo, yo, that Shia lab. It's cool, yo. I'm praying for him. I hope he good unsealed. And Justin Timberlake drunk driving in the Hamptons, getting pulled over. If he's trying to seal it. I know it's juicy.
C
What you think is in there? You think?
A
Oh, please. Justin drunk. I think he's a mess in his natural white state. Like, not when he appropriating us or stealing black from Timberland.
C
Yeah, when I caught up with punk, you saw him in his natural white state.
A
Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was in his natural white state in the Hamptons. Drunk, rich. Getting some off.
D
Yeah.
F
You think he said some words?
D
He might have, depending on who pulled him over.
C
Oh, yeah.
E
Oh, I ain't even think of that.
A
You never know.
C
I was thinking about.
A
Come on. I'll take you on, buddy. You're a thin ice. But hey, Karen, get. You want a piece of me?
C
I'll take you on. I think he might have.
B
He might have been more loving than that.
E
Yeah.
A
What?
C
I think he might have something in that car too. Yeah, that's something. Includes persons, places and things. That's what I'm thinking is in that. In that SEAL file. I think him looking like a badass cussing out cops. He might get released. Boom.
A
Yeah, we need this. We need this like the Terrence J accident paperwork.
F
What the fuck happened?
A
We need this like the Teddy Pendergrass accident. We need this like.
F
Nah, we don't need that.
A
That. We still ain't got all the answers from Teddy, do we?
C
No. Well, I do, but. Yeah. How you do, Philly. He found a banked out on Lincoln Drive.
A
Oh, so was he in?
C
Huh? I tell you off air.
A
So he was.
C
I. I'll tell you off air.
E
Damn.
A
Why is that a damn.
C
But it's a. It's a great story.
A
Like when you found out Luther was gay and then you went back and heard all of those songs and was like, oh, it was right there. Yo, you Gen Z. What's the new babies called? The. That's adults now, Gen Zers. What's the recent. Stupid. I think it is Gen Z. I think it's Gen Z. Yo, the Gen Z ers after the super bowl went and dug up every clip from when Ricky Martin was on fire. Like the living Lada Loca days. And they said, how could y' all not have known? Yo, Nah, I know.
C
It's so easy.
A
No, no, no. The videos that they pulled up, when you look back. Nah, yo, the Gen Z is like. It was right there the whole time, you idiot.
C
It was a different time. It was a different. It's like when you look at Michael from Good Times. You know what I mean? You can look at anybody now and
D
be like, Michael from Good Times again.
F
The. With the whole I'm.
C
That's one of the long standing allegations is what I'm saying. And what's my biggest. And when I look at him at the rent parties singing when you're young and in love.
D
You're right.
C
He's definitely not gay.
F
Did y' all think George Jefferson was gay back?
C
And when I see him do spin moves.
A
Yes, definitely not gay.
D
I wouldn't think Sharma Hemsley was gay based on his role on the show.
A
Oh, please. That sassy ass walk. He ain't see the walk when he was heading to the air.
C
Nah, but him and Helms, Sherman Hemsley.
D
Him and Helms.
C
Did you see?
A
No.
C
I mean, honestly, he played it very masculine.
A
He did. Come on, man.
C
By the time he got to Amen, it was starting to slip out a little bit.
D
Sure.
A
Maybe that's where we learned that strut
C
was a little different.
A
He was. Yeah.
C
George Jefferson was masculine. He flew all in the family. And not that gay means masculine, but I'm just saying he was performing a stereotypical heterosexual thing on all the family and on the Jeffersons. But by the time he got to all Amen when he was trying to date the older white lady, Helga or
A
whatever, yeah, it was a mess.
C
It wasn't. But, yeah, we weren't buying it.
A
And that little ass apartment in the Upper east side. I ain't never seen him grab his
E
wife hand and just walk to the bed.
A
You know what? Come here. I ain't never seen.
C
That's true. But I never saw him do that. Yeah, for one episode. And grabbed her ass.
A
I remember the classic. It's classic.
C
Classic. He show ever.
F
Even Uncle Phil.
B
I.
F
There's a lot of that. You look back, perfect.
C
Let's move that.
D
Hey, Carl, you can see.
E
Carl, you can't see.
C
I'm sorry, Carl. Zwo is not. Is not.
F
He's not gay.
C
He does not identify as gay.
A
Yeah, well, what does he identify as?
F
Stop it.
C
Stop.
A
Silence. Mark, is he alive?
F
Yes.
C
Remember, he was in the Diddy. We wanted Diddy rumors.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Yo, okay.
C
When they puff marching fans.
F
Watch your mouth.
A
You're know.
F
You see that moose knuckles.
D
What does he identify?
A
But what does he identify as?
D
Yeah.
A
That's not the Family man song, Mark.
C
You're right. You're right. That's Full House. Full House.
A
Mark is so pro white and pro black, you know, Mark is the pro whitest pro black person. Carl is gay. Sorry, we don't know what the niggas.
C
It's not a jacket. It's okay. It's just his identity. It is a jacket, but he hasn't come out and said that.
A
I feel like on the Family Matters version of Dark side of Comedy, I feel like Eddie Winslow kind of gave it away.
C
Well, well, speaking of Eddie Winslow, he's also not gay.
A
All right, all right.
F
He's a straight man that likes whatever
C
he likes, but he identifies as a straight man.
A
Eddie Winslow was Sydney Starr, who's a trans woman.
E
He's fucking a superhero.
C
Started.
F
Cut the Parts off, bro.
C
Go ahead, Joe. Come on down this hallway.
A
Hey, Mark, I'm saying that Eddie Winslow, identifies as straight. Should be a pansexual.
C
No, he would say I'm dating a trans woman. She's a woman, therefore I'm.
E
He still likes women.
C
He likes women. Yeah.
F
What's my man name from Top Cop? The cop show.
C
Just hand me.
F
Just hand me the chain.
A
Now I'm saying my nigga name for
F
the cop show, man.
A
Oh, Malik Yova. Are we outing people?
E
Yes, y'.
C
All. All right, let's pause. We're not. They're not outing people, but what they're doing is they're pointing to scandals that are very public, but assuming that because these men have dated trans women that they identify as Malik Yoba.
A
Was that all that time and we said all that shit about Torres? Torres is an obedient. Mark.
C
Mark didn't say.
A
Are you telling me that Torres.
C
I don't know Torres. I never met Torres. I don't know a story about Torres.
E
You had that look for a second.
C
I want to know where he was going. I had no idea if they put
A
New York Undercover Dog when New York Undercover was out. I'm not doing this with Mark.
C
Tippy waiters.
A
Anyway, what else is important? Or. Oh, wait, I was trying to get to some. I was actually trying to get to some. I was trying to get to something important. Raphael, Sed, Zeke. I want to get to what he had to say about Neo Soul, just because I thought it was pretty important.
B
While you're looking that up, I do want to say rest in peace. Rest in power. To Bob Power, who was, yes, super important mixing and recording engineer on a lot of that Neo Soul. I'll put it in air quotes because I know a lot of those people hate that term. He mixed all the tribe stuff, all the De La Soul stuff, all the root stuff. Erykah Badu. Tony, Tony, Tony. I'm sure I'm forgetting it's a like Water for Chocolate Common. It's a very, very long list of incredible classics with a significant. A very identifiable sonic footprint. Very low end, heavy, but still clear and competitive with anything that was pop at the time, which is a very difficult thing to tread. And he was a master.
A
And.
B
And Rest in peace. I believe he was 74 years old.
E
Rest in peace.
A
Rest in peace.
E
Speaking of daylight, you see they got a tiny desk, right?
A
I did.
B
I haven't watched it yet.
C
I heard it's amazing. I haven't watched it yet either. I heard it's amazing.
A
Okay. Raphael Sadiq says, and this is about neo soul, he says d' Angelo and Maxwell are not, quote unquote, neo soul artists. Sorry, but that's the truth. Truth, Neil. Soul was a term created by one black executive purely as shorthand. It helped labels internally identify which acts would not require crossover marketing budgets. Those funds were reserved for pop boy bands. The word neo soul signaled to executives in marketing meetings. These black artists might sell 150 to 350k, maybe 500k if they're really good, and 1 million at best. It had nothing to do with the sound of the music. Hip hop was created by the people thought this was a really interesting take from Rafael Sadiq.
D
It makes sense now. Could it be that.
C
Can we push back a little bit on that, though?
A
Of course we definitely can, because he could be correct.
E
And could we have a, like, take it. And now that we apply it to what we know as neosophy, just because it was created and started at this way, we've done that with other words. So I was like, yeah, neo soul was meant to mean this, but now we've kind of taken it and now we embrace that. And now this is what it means. Because now you say neo soul today, nobody thinks that.
C
I have. First of all, far be it from me to disagree with Raphael Siddiq on anything music.
A
Yeah, he's forgotten more about music than.
C
So I agree with everything he said. I also, in addition to that, think that actually, you know what? I take exception to one little thing, which is that. No, no, he's right. It didn't have anything to do with the music. But today, to your point, I think it does. Because there's a moment in music, particularly, I think about Black Lily. I think about the Black Lily events, these live events. I think about when Ndre and the Jazzy Fat Nasties and Kindred, the family Soul and Jill Scott and Bilal, there's a sound there. So Aquarians, there's a sound there and so forth and so on that I think I don't want to ignore. But I agree that that could just be seen as an extension of the soul, of the soul tradition. But there was something about that sound in the late 90s, early aughts, that was distinct and that you could tell and say, oh, what I hear. Even Donnie, even when I hear there's certain albums that I heard at that time that felt away and were connected to a thing. But I think it's important what he said to realize that that wasn't our creation, that these categories and these Labels get made for us, and then we buy into them. And to hear that they were organized not to figure out how to support us, but how to not support us, that's crazy. That's crazy to me.
E
That was crazy.
D
It's like when they say we're one.
A
We're. We're.
D
We're one of the best urban podcasts, as opposed to we're one of the best podcasts. So if you. If you take that into consideration and you're a white executive, when you come into their office, they looking at you like you are the. The urban podcast. So you may not be as entitled to the same exact budget or allotment that Rogan or Justin Bateman or one of those guys is entitled to. You get what I'm saying? So I think it's a way that they do minimalize a specific thing or group to be advantageous in their negotiations.
C
That's what Byron Allen ended up suing. He was like, I'm getting framed as a minority, but business in the Minority Channel. He's like, I own the Weather Channel. That's not. That's not urban yet.
E
That's true.
C
You don't even use the Weather Channel. I know black person ever don't watch the Weather Channel.
D
You're right.
C
We be right here on this phone, or you ask somebody, El, but we're not going by that.
A
But.
C
But by giving him that category, he's now pulling from a much smaller pool of minority business funds as opposed to own Fox substations or whatever. So we see it across business genres. I think that was such an important point that Rafael Sadiq.
D
I agree.
C
Made. I love it. I love the point.
A
The greatest thing I got from what he said was that the neo soul acts feel offended hearing the term neo soul.
B
I've heard that. I've heard that over the years.
C
I never knew that time.
A
That's a parts.
B
Just said, I've heard a lot of them don't like the term. So maybe it's minimizing, I don't know.
C
And it disconnects you from the tradition. It's like, I'm a soul artist. Right?
F
True.
C
Why am I different than this person or that person? I'm part of the same tradition. Yeah.
D
So I never thought about it like that.
A
That's dope.
B
Same way some people don't like segmenting of hip hop. Honestly, I was gonna say, what's the
D
difference in saying this is backpack rap. There's really no difference.
B
A lot of backpack rappers don't like that.
A
Yeah.
D
Like that's That's. I can see why.
E
Yeah. Even if it is that sound. Yeah, I get it.
A
I get it. Would you do away with the terms, with the new information?
D
I would try to, Yeah.
C
I wouldn't.
D
I would try to.
A
You know, out of respect.
E
I would.
C
I wouldn't. Oh, wait, you talking about Neil Soul or backpack rap?
A
Ne.
C
Oh, Neo Soul. Yes. Yeah, I would get rid of that. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. But not backpack, because backpack rap, as I understand it, didn't come from. Record exists, it came from us. So if it, if it's our. That we're saying to label our own music and our own culture, I'm down with it. I just don't want somebody up above. I don't want somebody in the suit doing that for us.
A
Us.
B
What if it's still kind of, I don't want to say derogatory, but minimalized. It's kind of still making fun a little bit. Like that's fair.
C
If, if it becomes pejorative, then. Yeah, I agree. Then we should get rid of it, I guess. Because as somebody who loves backpack rap and, and, and boom bap, all these terms we use, for me, I. For me, it's just like, yeah, that's my shit. Even when they say it up here, I be like, you love me?
E
Old soul. Yeah, but it's just the fact that it was created by them.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
E
That's the difference. Okay.
C
For me, but got it. Yeah.
A
Did anybody here have a chance to look at the Actor Awards or at least see any clips from the Actor Awards?
B
I saw clips. I was gonna watch it, cuz I saw, you know, the, the marketing online and I was like, I've never heard of the Actor Awards. They just made this up. Little did I know that it's the SAG Aftra Awards rebranded. So I would have watched it. The rebrand. They should have done better marketing.
C
Why did they rebrand it? Do we know?
B
Because SAG Aftra isn't the sexiest of names, I would assume.
C
Gotcha.
A
Yeah.
E
Now it says the Actor Awards presented by Saga.
A
Ah, okay.
C
I thought it was because something related to the strike. It's just. It just don't sound good. Got it.
E
I didn't see.
C
I didn't watch it.
D
I'm tired.
B
It is available on Netflix to watch because I was gonna watch it the
A
other night, but yeah, stream live on Netflix. I. I didn't get a chance to see it all when it was airing, but I went back and, and congratulations to Michael B. Jordan.
D
I saw a Speech.
A
Speech was dope sinners. The part I wanted to talk about was two parts. One was the memorial portion of the show.
E
Okay.
A
You know, I came in here before and said there were so many people that passed that I feel like I totally forgot about or just wasn't aware of. Yeah. Add 100 to the list.
F
Yeah.
D
I was about to say that.
A
Shit.
E
Will.
A
The job that they did. I was boohooing in the bed. Like, there are plenty. Plenty of actors brothers that we like and love and adore their work that I would have never knew their names that passed away last year. And they did such a phenomenal job honoring all of those people. When we go to break, I'm gonna show y' all this clip. Cause it's that powerful. And another part they did where I was boohooing again in the place first bed was they did a. They did this I am an actor segment where they went to Delroy. They went to. They just went to a few actors in the front where they told their story of whatever being an actor meant for them, where they came from, what it is they're doing, how it's touching people or just something important in their story. And it always ended with I am an actor. And at the end of that, it was Michael J. Fox.
B
Oh, wow.
A
Wow. And it was him sitting at the table with his fan. Well, dawg, I could tell. I know you probably. It's Michael J. Fox. The entire audience. This was the only. The only person where they. Loud round of applause. Damn near standing ovation for five minutes. And he just went on about how he's accomplished so much and how Family Ties changed his life. But Family Ties is where I met my wife, who's sitting here next to me. She gave me my greatest gift. These beautiful kids. And it's Michael J. Nigga, niggas don't.
B
Yeah, it's been great seeing him shrinking. Yeah.
C
When I saw him in first episode of Shrinking.
B
Cause Harrison Ford in the show Shrinking has Parkinson's. So they're in the doctor's office, I believe, in the lobby. Lobby talking.
C
It's a powerful. We were crying in the first.
A
Yeah.
C
Seeing them.
B
And it's a really good show.
A
It was extremely powerful. Again on the break, I'll try to show y' all both those clips or at least put them in the group chat. But, yeah, I couldn't stop crying looking at these clips.
D
I don't know if you saw or anybody saw. They did the story about Delroy Lindo,
A
who did the story.
D
I forgot where I Read it. But they talked about his journey and saying basically, dog, he was up and starving. And him and Denzel were super duper close when they were younger. They were in acting school together. They were all this. And somewhere along Denzel's ascension, Delroy Lindo just fell off the boat, like, was fucked up. Just out here, like taking menial jobs, you know what I mean? Garbage, cooking burgers, whatever the case may be. And then somewhere along the line, he saw Denzel again. And he was about to give up and Denzel, like, breathe some life into him. And then the Malcolm X role came.
C
Yeah, West Indian Archie.
D
West Indian Archie. And then from that, his career just took off. But it was like literally like a 20, 25 year gap between when he and Denzel was like, they were close, close.
C
And then they do a theater together.
D
And then it was just crazy. It was real, real, real inspiring. To now see him on stages winning awards, et cetera, et cetera.
C
That's just.
D
Will bring you to some level of realization as well.
B
Amazing, man, and well deserved.
A
Yeah, no, I'm reading some of these names. I'm crying now looking at this.
D
We ain't gonna know the names. It'll be like, oh, homeboy from such and such.
A
Oh, no, that. I just felt like this was a really important piece and it was so well done and we lost so many home. Oh, yeah, they had.
D
Come on.
A
All right, Come on, come on. That doesn't mean that we're not going to be. Nah, they had the parts.
E
Oh, they showing them.
A
They showing you who passed away, dog.
D
Oh, that little girl.
A
Yes. Look, Peter Quang died. Who knew? Peter Quang died. I sometimes can't find the words or what. I feel if I keep it on, y' all are going to cry this moment.
D
Yeah, she.
C
Isaiah.
A
Yeah, Marks here.
D
Oh, damn. Oh, boy.
E
No, you got send.
A
Send that. No, man, you got to.
E
You got to send that. I can't.
D
A lot of these B level and C level actors make Hollywood really go around. Yeah.
A
Oh, there's a lot of A levels that pass. No, I'm just saying they did a great job spacing out the people. Cuz by the time you get to the end, some of the names they put. You have no choice but to bust out in the dear. I want to go to the end, cuz. One of these Peter Green, one of these Sally Kirkland, One of these people that died at the end, totally me. I'm sorry.
D
The mother from home.
A
Give me a second.
D
A bunch of people passed away.
A
Rob Reiner, Malcolm Jamel. Malcolm. Jamal Warner. Let's just watch the end together, cuz. Somebody at the end. Bobby Duvall. Everyday things. Audience. Bear with me, man. Forgot about Gene Hackman. Come on, man. Val Kilmer.
C
I forgot Val Kilmer.
A
That's what I'm saying. Catherine o'.
C
Hara.
A
Yeah. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Diane Keaton. They did such an amazing job with this audience. I'll be right there. It turned out different. Rob Refer. Stop playing with him. I know that down the street.
D
I didn't know that.
A
Would have said there goes the best. You didn't know Rob Refer that.
D
I didn't know that.
E
And the music ain't making it no better before that.
A
Yeah, I missed the person I was talking about, but I'll send it to y'. All.
B
I'm going to watch it. I'm going watch it once I realize what it was.
A
Very well done.
D
And these people play such a part of our lives and childhoods and like that.
C
Yeah, Joe, you said.
A
Oh, no.
C
Speaking of award shows, I was watching JBP rewind, which by the way, is actually really good.
A
Everybody should watch out right now. JBP Rewind on that Patreon $25 $50
C
tier I was trying to do for you. Not on you.
A
Not on. Not you. $5 that keep trying to join and find something. I'm in there. I'm looking at. Hey, new subs. Maddie is $5. They can move. You ain't get nothing.
C
You want to be respected.
A
You $10, buddy. N. Not in the slightest. Not in the slightest. It's a couple of y' all free members Gifted. Somebody gifted me something. Hey, gift these. You're not getting a new show. What you say?
C
Wow, I never seen that much disrespect for.
A
Yeah, you can tune in to Mark Lamont's Patreon and yeah, go ahead if you want.
C
Come on over to Markle my Hill network.
A
No, I'm trying to incentivize the 25 and the $50 tier, but the show is doing really, really good. Shout out to people out there that's enjoying it. We got a bunch coming. So we had a ball.
C
But at the end of that, you and I are talking and then I do a thing, and then you do a thing. And I was watching your last 10 minutes and one of the things you said at the end of the show was that as much as you joked about wanting an award, you wouldn't actually apply for an award. We're not gonna get an Emmy because you're not even gonna apply for An Emmy.
A
I'm not submitting for no Emmy.
C
I think it's fucked up.
A
I'm not submitting for an Emmy. A Webby. I'm not submitting.
C
How y' all feel about that? Cause that's. We taking away our Emmy.
E
Why would you not do it?
D
Like, what's.
A
I don't play the award games. I don't play the. It's the same as any act fucking blackballing award show. There's politics that come with award show. They use your likeness for certain shit. I did this whole spiel a million times before. I don't support award ceremonies.
C
So we can't go behind your back and then submit.
A
They wouldn't honor it if you did.
C
And if we got the award, would you not show up?
A
They would have to guarantee the award for me to show up and submit. They'd have to guarantee, hey, if you submit, I'll give it to you, hold it up, then I'll come, then I'll play. Then I'll. Then I'll play along with some of
D
the politics instead of having them. You have other audience to sell it and then not get the award.
A
I'm not submitting to the Streamy Awards. I'm not submitting to. I'm not looking for acceptance from none of them. Nothing, nothing they do there is going to change what it is. And the people. There probably aren't even the people to properly acknowledge exactly what's going on out here. Like, if they would have really properly acknowledged what's going on with here in terms of this being a black owned, independent
D
outfit.
E
Conglomerate.
A
Yeah, that's just it. Like, if they were really to stop and take a look at the.
C
That.
A
Please, please. What the conversations would and should be. I'm not sucking nobody dick for an award.
D
I was about to say, do you,
A
Cor, I'm not begging for acceptance.
D
You hold the two in. In.
C
In.
D
In the same. Like you. You asking for acceptance versus you being recognized. You think they're the same.
A
I'm just asking, do you think that's a great point.
C
Like, do you think they're the same?
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Cuz it's not like, yo, I'm begging y' all to come give me an
C
award, pay what you want.
D
Versus them saying, yo, dogs, we see everything that you're doing. We see your motion, we see your movement, and we think you should be honored. Even their nomination is an honor.
A
But we think that you should denominate me. Denominator.
D
Yeah, but then I thought you said you gotta submit for a nomination.
A
Well, then that's a rule.
E
Him having to submit beats your.
A
Your. Yeah, your.
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Your point of.
E
We see you and we're acknowledging you.
D
That's not true. Not if that's the formality.
C
Everybody has a submission.
A
Oh, please, please, please.
E
Somebody can reach out, please, with that one.
D
Grammys, you have to submit, right?
B
Yeah.
E
Yes.
A
Everywhere you got to submit.
C
So you didn't submit for Grammys either, or were you in different space back then?
A
No, the label would be submitting.
C
Oh, got you.
A
If the label felt like paying to submit you, they would. They would do it.
C
And did you. Were you equally disconnected or did you feel differently at that stage of your career?
A
I went to one award show, Mark. I tell story all the time. The Grammys, when I was nominated, I went there from that. And the Vibe Awards that I didn't go to because they didn't let me go, that I ended up winning. They're stretching. Megan. Good shout out to them. Presented for those two shows. Learned me. Award shows.
C
Got it.
A
And what goes on with award shows. My label gave me the backstory to award shows. I learned the politics and the game of award shows. And quite frankly, if it was just fun, like a good old time.
C
Yeah.
A
Then maybe I don't have fun. I don't have a good time at award show.
C
Only time I've ever fun is BT
A
like, it's a hassle.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah. The other one. Flip. Do you want an Emmy?
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No.
C
So you don't. How about you? Y' all feel the same way? He does.
E
I'll take one.
C
You want one?
E
I'll take one.
A
If they FedEx it to me.
D
FedEx it to you?
B
Why not?
C
Okay.
B
It's Golden Globes that's currently recognized in the podcast.
C
I'm sorry.
D
Yeah.
C
In the show, we said Emmy, but it's Golden Globes. Oh, yeah. Jvp. We said.
B
That being said, I think that they did a horrible, horrible job with that this year. I think they disrespected the entire genre in that segment.
A
But if nobody played politics, but if
D
nobody submitted, then they didn't. They might have just picked from the submission.
E
A lot of people.
A
It's a slap in the face for them to ask certain people to submit. It's a slap in the face for them to even request a certain people permit. And it's award that you just made up. Agreed.
B
And I think that especially with a new award, they should have reached out. And the people that should have been up there.
A
Yeah, yeah. That responsibility is on them. It's not on the Part. You think they could. You think they could call Howard Stern and say, yo, submit. Right?
C
But Howard probably got somebody who just submits.
D
Howard might have a network person answer my question.
A
I don't care what he has. Do you think that they could call him and say, yo, please submit?
D
Yes, I think they could reach out to us.
A
Do you think he would? Howard Stern?
C
I think he would.
B
I think even that would be a good step, though.
A
Somebody would love them award.
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Hey, I'm in charge of the podcast division.
A
We think that you guys have a great award.
D
You guys are kicking ass.
A
We need you.
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We would really like you and be like, yo, would you guys?
C
I would take that as an act, as a gesture.
A
I agree Howard Stern with telling people to suck my dick if they called him and said, submit to this award show.
C
Really?
A
Yes.
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I defer to you. I don't know enough about.
D
Yeah, me either.
C
Yeah. I don't know enough to have a strong opinion on it.
D
I think them reaching out to say, hey, we're starting this new award award. We think that you guys would be
B
your exemplary track record in the space.
A
So, dog, this is. They. They just. Dog, we should be charging them. We should be charging them to. To submit.
C
I see.
A
Like, they can't call Joe Rogan and say, yo, submit. They can't just.
D
No, he ain't get nominated either.
A
It didn't. He won't submit.
C
He won't submit. And I. I'm like, who are short? Let's do it.
A
Who are these people that. But you putting on this fucking facsimile of bullshit and just totally disregarding the people that have been here getting busy for 10, 15, and 20. Who the fuck are y'?
C
All?
A
The podcast industry started, like, hip hop started, like, in the park. Rebellious in the awards seem to be
B
going the same way.
A
We ain't coming Stepping, stepping now begging. Cause niggas got some millions. No, fuck them niggas. Well, Margo beg. Margo beg.
C
But at least step.
D
No, I just look at it different, but I guess I wouldn't have the
C
same
D
understanding and perception of it as you.
C
Yeah, we weren't in the string because
D
you keep saying begging or you keep saying going to them asking. You know what I mean?
B
I think it's on them to do that, and they should be doing that.
C
I think. I agree. That was a great point. I think they should have reached out.
A
That was a great point.
D
Point you made. Great point you made.
A
I wouldn't go just off on the strength of how I felt the room felt when the winner went up there and gave a speech.
B
Yeah.
D
The room felt like it was, yes.
A
Why am I here? Why am I up here?
D
But the room mentioned, yo, the Joe Button. They said your name. The Joe Buttons, the Joe Rogans. These are the people that should be the nominees.
A
What they said?
F
No, they said it.
D
I'm telling you. They said it. Multiple people said it. So what? My thing is. But you can't now knock them if these people don't submit.
C
But to.
D
I'll go back to Parks's point to say, yo, y' all should have at least reached out and said, yo, we doing this new thing. We would love to have you, because I think you guys been kicking ass.
B
Yes.
D
There it is. Now it's up to you now to submit or not.
B
For sure.
D
We definitely crossed the bridge.
A
There's a few of those award shows that for a few years. Because they all know where I see stand with this because they call every year. But, yo, please submit.
E
Yo.
A
We're trying to give it to you. Please, please, please. No, no, no, no.
C
Fine.
D
You're an yo.
A
You're an dog.
D
I get his dance cannot kiss.
A
Yeah.
E
Even though I would like the awards, I do understand this way of thinking with it. Like, yo, what.
A
What do.
E
What do I need y' all to warn me for?
F
Y', all, it's a lot of loopholes that people have to go through in order to get. Feel like you're being accepted by these people. And I understand nobody.
E
Like, think about that Summer Walker we talked about before.
F
Over 15 years, however long it is. What's your approval? What does your approval mean? You know, if you didn't see me valuable enough to reach out to me and contact my company and say that you didn't go through the proper channels, which would be comfortable for me.
A
I don't. Yeah, yeah. I don't even want to go to the parties that the winner is supposed to go to.
B
That part, though.
C
Yeah.
A
When you win and it's all over, I don't want to go to the Clive Davis Pine party. I don't want to.
F
You.
C
I get it.
A
As a rebel and a hip hop lover, any chance I get to say you to the system, I'm going to try to say it. Unless I'm cutting my nose and spike my.
C
And we shouldn't care about it unless I'm hurting myself. I think for me, I don't want to speak for Ish, but I think for me, the point is just like I agree with you wholeheartedly. You shouldn't Be a part of that. You shouldn't want to be a part of that. We should not care whether. But the awards. I also want to see you, and by extension, us. But really, you get acknowledged. The acknowledgment that you deserve for what you've contributed. But he's getting it, though.
A
Yeah, that's. That's. That's the trap, buddy. I'm acknowledged by all the people. I need to be acknowledged. Winning that award is going to put eyes on me that I wasn't looking for that I didn't call for that I didn't ask for.
C
That's fair.
A
Like everybody that's supposed to see will see. My faith is in God, not award shows. It's not like I have an album out in your itunes where they're telling you, hey, go. I'm cool on that.
F
But there was a point where you were saying that you wanted to get. You wanted to get an Emmy.
A
There was a point. I did. I did say that. I think that's what he's referring to,
C
but that's why I was so surprised on the show when he said I was.
A
I'll say that up here to joke around, but how I feel up here about what I'm saying about my feelings toward award shows is consistent throughout my career. I'm not.
F
I think I'm with you.
A
I'm not.
C
Can I. Can I ask the conspiracy couch a question? I. I think about y' all all the time.
A
Me too.
C
You know, I don't even like last night. This is what I want to imagine,
D
especially at night time.
B
Every time I look at a map,
C
anything. Anything spherical about the blood dudes looking
E
at the blood moon, thinking about us.
C
No. Well, Will Chamberlain, of course, they just honored his 100, 100 point thing. That was the anniversary of that. But that's not the one I want to ask y' all about, because I'm sure y' all don't think that was real. Jim Carrey.
B
This one is on my algorithm.
A
This one's been me up and I don't know.
C
Not Moose Knuckle.
D
Not Moose.
E
I didn't see Moose Knuckle.
C
But you did see Jim Carrey thing. Okay. Jim Carrey got a big award in France. In France. Even gave his acceptance speech in Canada.
A
Right.
B
Or was it French? I know.
C
I know. The speech was in French.
A
Correct.
C
You might be right. It might be canon. I didn't know he gave the speech in French. Yeah, he looked a little different, and there's some theories about what was going on. How would you how he looked?
A
Absolutely nuts, yo. He did not look like. He didn't look like Jim Perry. And there was a huge outcry of people bad. There was a huge outcry from people saying, that's not Jim Carrey. That can't be Jim Carrey. If that is Jim Carrey. What the is going on with Jim Carrey? Only for us to learn that. Well, later on, famous makeup artist Alexis Stone came out and showed. Showed the whole process to becoming the fake Jim Carrey and. And showed themselves on the carpet as the fake Jim Carrey. So then that answered everything. Okay, this is not Jim Carrey. This is Alexis Stone. But then Jim Carrey's publicist came out.
E
This where they got me.
A
And said, listen, fuck what you heard. That was indeed Jim Carrey, the makeup artist.
B
The photo that he posted was an AI generated photo.
F
Yeah, yeah, don't show.
B
So he may have been trolled with that.
C
That's what we. That's what I thought, that he was just trolling, saying, yeah, I was. I was really Jim Carrey.
B
That being said, Jim Carrey did not look like Jim Carrey up there. But I don't want to, like, you know, make fun of your house or whatever.
E
We don't know.
A
There's one person to never make fun of. Jim Carrey's on that list for me.
C
I love Jim Carrey. That picture right there looks like he's transitioning.
D
I was about to say it looked like, but I don't.
E
Yeah.
A
What, Bruce?
D
Yeah, yeah, Bruce Jenner.
C
That's what I mean by transitioning.
D
Yeah, it looked like Bruce Jenner a little bit. I couldn't think of his name. I think that, you know, Jim Carrey got to be in his 60s, I believe so.
B
60s.
D
And. And
A
do you think that was Jim Carrey or not?
F
Yeah, man.
D
Yeah. I just think that these people be getting work done on their faces and like that.
E
64.
D
You know what I mean?
A
Ice, you too. You think it was Jim Carrey?
E
Yeah, I think it was. Was.
A
And you think it was Jim Carrey.
E
You got this.
A
Come on.
F
You got the.
D
Yeah, thanks. Began Botox and all that.
B
His eyes looked like a different color, though, which was weird.
E
And they said, is the Mask 2 coming out?
F
That's all I came up.
A
Cause ice will reduce everything to. What are we rolling out, fam?
E
Unfortunately, a lot of today has been reduced to, let's roll something out. Let's get some talk going so we can sell some something. So, yes, actors will play the long game.
A
That little Dirk defense Team actors and
E
will go out there, play the long game and be in character and do all of this and start hitting the red carpets looking a certain way to get the talk going when they really got to. So, yeah, I asked that question.
B
I don't think Jim Carrey plays those games personally.
A
Me either.
C
Yeah, me either. He's too big for that, too.
B
That too.
F
His PR came out as him. That's it.
E
As I said, I. That's what they got me.
C
What else would your PR team say, though?
B
True.
C
That's my body double. I didn't show up.
D
Our team is going to say the politically correct thing. But I. I put the side by side picture of the old him versus the new him.
C
The one that looks like meatloaf. Yeah, it's him.
A
If Jim Carrey just be.
D
Wasn't aging the best at 40.
A
That's not true, bro.
D
I'm looking at the.
E
Right now.
D
He wasn't aging the best.
A
You're just looking at a bad photo of Jim Carrey.
C
He doesn't look bad.
A
That's just a bad picture of Jim Carrey is.
D
It's four of them side by side by side. They all four of them bad.
C
I don't think he didn't age well. I just think that's his face.
D
He got mad wrinkle lines and all that. I'm not saying he's 4 years old.
C
I'm not.
D
And I'm. That's the point I'm making. I'm not saying he looks like. I'm not doing that. I'm saying 40s.
A
He started getting that very last award show where he was at the podium talking and Denzel was laughing. Yeah. Where he did the bit about how important it is to be a two time dominated. He killed that shit. He looked great up there. And that was two months ago.
C
Sounds weird. Well, I trust if y' all don't think it's a conspiracy, then there's not one.
A
I don't believe that that was Jim Carrey. I don't think that was Jim Carrey. Now I'm basing that on absolutely nothing. So I have no fat, but I just don't think you. Mark. Yeah, I don't think. I don't. I don't think that's. I don't think.
D
Got the same dips and everything.
A
Yeah, he trying to pull some mf doom trick. He trying to. He trying to pull that old Jeremiah trick. Rest in peace, Mf doom. He trying to pull the old Jeremiah. It's just tougher to do it when you white? Because we could. We see like, you're not the same. Y. Y' all niggas age differently.
B
It's weird.
A
It is weird. It is weird.
B
I think the Internet also has a weird fascination with Jim Carrey that I've never really got to the bottom of,
D
you know, and with. With cloning says a lot of the Internet don't be having a fascination with him. He'll come out, and he's been doing this for 20, 25 years.
B
He has said some dope, but he'll
D
be saying the behind the scenes and. And divulging a bunch of secrets.
B
But people have been making hundreds of fake Jim Carrey tweets for 20 years.
C
A lot, but a lot of it's
E
because he comes out and speaks like that.
B
But if you've seen a Jim Carrey quote online, there's a 90 chance that he didn't really say that, especially if it's in a tweet format.
D
Gotcha.
B
I don't think he ever even had a Twitter.
E
Yeah.
F
Snake got surgery.
A
That's it, bro.
B
I think he got a bunch of surgery.
F
Yeah.
B
But it's weird because his eye color did look different, so.
E
I think that's Jim, man.
D
That's Jim. I looked at his eyes too.
F
What you looking at?
A
I'm still trying to find my man that died. Look, Danielle Spencer died from what's happening.
C
Yeah. Rest in peace. To D from what's happening. Dr. Danielle Spencer.
D
Both of them.
A
Lynn Hamilton. Sanford and son. George went from Cheers. Oh, shit. I'm looking for Wynt was my guy. I gotta find this person. It's gonna bother me, the rest of this problem. But somebody passing had fucked me up in this clip, and I didn't see it the first time I did it. So I'm looking. Y' all can talk.
D
You don't remember what show or nothing?
A
No, he's just looking. Desmond Wilson. The whole fucking San Francis Uncas.
F
Yeah, nigga.
A
It was the singers.
F
Renee.
A
What are you talking about? Now, I don't assume everyone from the 60s is about to die, but it's 2020. Oh, in the 60s.
C
70s.
A
I hear y'.
E
All.
D
If you was already gray in the 70s.
A
My mom told me to tell y' all to stop doing that, too.
B
What's up?
D
Doing what?
A
What. What y' all doing right now?
D
No, you.
E
You said you didn't think that the whole cast would die. We just saying, if you think about it logically, they were older in the 70s.
A
I don't assume people. People in their 70s to just be about to drop dead.
D
No, no, no, no. They were older
A
already. That was 50 years ago.
D
Some years ago.
C
If you were 20 in 1970, you were.
D
If you was 40 in the 70s, my, you would be in your 90s now.
B
20s in the 70s looked way different than 20s.
C
That's true, too, because the pop from Good times was only 35.
B
Everybody character was only Cheers and Seinfeld and all that was like 20 something famous.
C
Yeah, he's only 35.
B
Kelsey Grammer was like 27.
C
He had one of them Jim Crow hairlines, though a lot.
F
Speak.
C
Speaking of old Floyd just announced another fight.
D
He did? He did.
C
This one will be against this dude.
A
Oh, no, I don't think. No. How do I go back? Y' all knew this dude.
D
Oh, rewind. You can't.
E
My thumbs, man. Use your.
A
Just go ahead now. He done lost this. Go ahead, Floyd. I'll cut you off again.
C
Floyd Mayweather announced yet another fight. This one is an exhibition. This one will be after Tyson, but before. Is that right?
D
Yeah, after Tyson, but before Pacquiao.
C
This is against the Kickboxer.
E
Yep.
C
This feels like another tomato can to me.
B
Tomato can?
C
You know, like when you reset in wrestling, in boxing. Hold up. This is more important.
F
Oh, what's the name from Mortal Kombat?
D
Yo, he's been in everything. He's been in way more than Mortal Kombat.
C
Wow.
A
This is. Man.
D
Yo, he's been.
A
You don't know him. Punks.
B
I can't tell. It's far away.
D
Every Asian bad guy in the world. And Shang Tsung, he's been in everything.
B
Oh, Shang Tsung something.
D
Yeah, he's been in everything.
A
I can't be the only one sad. No, no, no.
D
He's been in everything.
A
Who knew that he died?
B
I didn't know that.
A
And how would you know that he died? Who knows his name?
E
You don't know his name?
C
Yeah, I don't know his name. Yeah.
A
All right, come on. Floyd is broke. Floyd, Floyd. Go on. What you got? What you got?
F
I think you believe if you are broke, he trying to figure it out. Let him figure it out.
D
I mean, I don't think he said he got wrong. I don't think he broke. I just think that he needs some
F
cash even if he's broke, bro. Like, he's floored. He built the cash. He built who he is and able to. And he's able to come out of retirement and do this and get money.
D
I'm not mad at that.
E
That's like the rapper that Built himself.
F
He's able to beat Floyd. Man gonna watch and pay. So even if he's broke. Shout out.
D
I made enough rich I should be able to cash it now when I need some money. I made y' all enough money. And there it is.
A
A lot of words for these broke.
D
I don't know if he's.
C
Who gives a. That's the point.
A
Point. Whoa, that's your cousin.
F
Stop hating on Easy.
A
Oh, please, you. I waited 12 years to say he was broke. Please. You know how long we waited? We wasn't sure. Yo, dog, we didn't know, cuz it's Floyd Money Mayweather. This money team. I waited for this. You that N is popped. I like him too.
D
What do you think?
F
That's how me stop.
A
I like him a lot.
D
What do you think popped me?
A
Well, like I said. Like I said before. You wanted to guess? Oh, what I said before was more is going out that's coming in.
D
Yeah, you think got a hunt?
E
Think I might. Oh, some.
A
Somewhere liquid. No, no, I don't know about.
D
No, he don't. He might.
A
So would you. No, stop. Don't be stupid. So what you asking, like liquids?
D
He got 100 assets. He bought into a bunch of real estate. He got 100.
F
Now they said that real estate was fake. The 400 buildings in Harlem.
A
Yeah.
D
No, I ain't talking about Harlem. He bought into some big in Manhattan.
A
I don't think. I don't think Floyd has 100 million liquid or assets.
C
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
F
It's not real.
A
I don't. Now that I'm thinking about it, I don't see it.
D
Who said it's not real?
F
The articles came up 50.
D
I heard him say it out his own mouth.
F
And then they came and exposed that it's not real. They looked at the document. Wait, hold on, wait. Looked at the document. They saw who was still the owner. The other community was still the owner of the stuff. I'm telling you, go look at it. It's a whole thing. 50 put it out there.
C
Trust me. Trust me. I don't know.
D
In the real estate business that don't mean nothing what you saying, but I. I don't know. I hope not.
A
Don't dismiss us because we're not saying you can own.
D
You can own some and have it under somebody else name and have paperwork for it. That just might not be public record. You could hold some like. It's a lot of that goes on in the real estate game, like this llc, this company, whatever. But you just might not.
C
But you know who else got. Don't you know who don't got paperwork for property? Who don't own the property? True.
A
They don't got one.
C
One got the same paperwork for that building. That's possible. I don't know if he lied or not. I don't know.
A
Flip, don't get me wrong. I'm not laughing at him. No, no, no, no, no. Like, I ain't, like, making a joke of it. I'm just saying I think I have enough information now to be able to call it. I told y' all when we discussed this last time, he gonna be broke after them two fights. Somebody, I don't remember, who was like, nah, nah, no way. And sure enough, here comes the third fight announced. Hey, news flash for you. Another fight gonna get announced too, right?
C
And they getting another fight gonna get announced.
F
Do you not.
A
Do you Don't. I don't think three fights get him out the hole.
F
You don't think it's a big hole. My to you just start popping.
A
What we saying is we think the debt is too great right now.
C
That's my theory.
E
Now, we made the jokes about Bruno Mars.
A
Owen, 50 mil I got you folks.
E
And yo, get your ass back.
A
I think Floyd owed like, 6, 700 mils somewhere.
C
Yeah, I think he. I do.
A
I think that's based on nothing.
E
And then you hear. You hear, dude, what's his name? Jake Paul come out, say what he was supposed to get.
A
Logan Paul.
F
Logan Paul? Yeah.
E
Excuse me.
C
Logan Paul.
A
White people don't look the same.
E
You hear him come out and say, yo, the money I was supposed to get from this fight, I didn't get.
F
Yeah.
E
So I have to sue for my bread. Then you hear Floyd come out and I'm suing. Was it Showtime?
F
For 200 million.
E
I didn't get the money. I'm like. It starts to look like the money that. It ain't there. It's just an illusion of the money.
D
I think that.
F
Start checking their books.
D
No, I think that. And I do this when. When you. When you n. Nick, you gotta pay out some shit.
A
I like when you get.
F
I love when you do that.
A
Go ahead, man.
D
A bunch of kids.
F
Yo, dog, I love what you doing.
C
Can y' all be serious?
D
When you start to owe people money and niggas owe you money, you start looking around like, this owe me 10. This owe me 5. This owe me 500. I gotta pay out some money.
A
You think Logan Paul get his bread?
D
No, I just think you start looking at Your books and reconciling your books when you owe n money or when you start getting shorts.
C
I look very bad. Yeah, that's my point.
D
So now your auditors and your accountants like, yo, go over that Showtime deal, make sure we was a like, nah. Or you might have known and you just like them. I ain't gonna worry about it till you really need the money. Now you want money from everybody. Everybody that wants that owes you money. When you. When you got to put out some shit, you be looking.
F
Do you feel like the most typing
C
voices this morning, Man, I was running a little light. I started looking at everybody.
F
You feel like the most flamboyant people fall the hardest?
D
Yes, of course you do. Because your extra lifestyle
E
people see.
D
So if you was all the way up and you fell, nobody would know you fell, right? Until you showing all this shit. And you got 47 cars. Now you riding around in a Cherokee like, yo, what the. No Cherokee you walking around with, huh?
B
No Cherokee shaving, man.
D
No, I had one. But you walking around with bags of money, pulling out bags of money just everywhere he goes with a entourage of 20. And now you just with two bodyguards and some normal lifestyle is different.
A
You're killing that. But when you had a Cherokee, what year that was? You know I got it. You know, you say. He say stuff because I remember. I think he did have a Cherokee. But I want to remember the year you made it sound like it was new. Was a new charcoal gray Cherokee from the auction. I don't know what year was that Police that before we met.
F
Before we met the police auction.
A
I think I remember having a Cherokee for a little bit.
E
I do.
A
I think I do remember that.
F
He bodied the Cherokee out of here.
A
Come on. I'm good.
F
My, why you leave me hanging?
A
You drove a great Cherokee. Used to be a luxury vehicle.
C
Nothing wrong with a Cherokee.
D
Cherokee. I'll buy a Cherokee tomorrow.
F
Yo, so buy one.
A
You didn't have a Cherokee. You got the bread.
D
You said, what?
F
Buy one.
A
You didn't have one. I know you just lied. Put your head twin Cherokees. I had no Cherokee yet. You didn't what year? You're right. All right, just what year?
E
Never Drew rode in my car. That was my last car was a Cherokee.
C
I thought you still drove a Cherokee.
A
You had a Cherokee.
D
How you feel?
C
How you feel?
A
I thought he was lying together. You know, he be lying or maybe go ahead.
F
His memory going.
E
I ain't with this.
A
I forgot.
E
Y. I was thinking in my head,
A
yeah, I had a Cherokee that pink Cherokee.
E
That was pink.
C
That was.
A
I do remember it now. That was hot. Cherry red.
C
That was.
D
It's a fool.
A
Speaking of, we talking about Floyd and being broken, all this shit. So over the weekend I had some time on my hands. So I said, you know what? I've been doing so good on my saving. I've been doing so good on my saving, man. And just not shopping and just fucking doing. I've been doing really. I've been doing so good at it. So let me run over here to the city, man, see if they got a little out outfit or something I could pick up. Yeah. Treat myself. So I ran into Bergdorf.
B
It's a good place to go when you're saving.
A
Yeah, when I.
C
Whenever I go.
A
Especially now. Especially now.
D
Why?
A
I've never seen this place look bankrupt before.
B
Oh really?
E
Yeah.
D
Retail.
A
I've never seen Bergdorf look bankrupt. Damn it. Officially, it officially looks bankrupt. They hold it on by three. It's not. No, it's not gonna be for sale because those buildings are owned privately. But the clothes and people that y' all owe hundreds of millions of dollars to continuing to send y' all shit for y' all to sell those days. It wasn't no clothes in there.
B
Really?
C
Really.
A
There's no clothes in there.
D
Cause you know, you know they got bought out.
E
You didn't know that?
A
Who got brought out?
D
Neiman Marcus got bought. My sex.
C
Oh yeah, that's right.
F
Yeah.
A
All that shit is is sex. Neiman's.
D
Yeah.
A
Not all that. She's bankrupt.
D
No, I'm saying retail. It was Barney's first.
E
Yep.
D
Bro, they, they hanging on by threat. This is short lived. All of this luxury is short lived. Especially when it comes to are shopping online. You don't have to go to the store. I can shop online. If it don't fit, I send it back back. If I don't like it, I send it back. This high ass rent. You paying all of these people these high commissions From a retail sales perspective. Yo dog. That the formula don't work no more.
B
And most of these designers have their own shops in New York specifically.
C
Oh, that's what I was gonna add. The luxury stuff ain't going nowhere. So you're just saying the retail. Is it retail going to die completely or is it just going to be like no brick and mortar? Like will there be saxophone lines?
D
Still brick and mortar is a thing of the past. When you start looking at JCPenney is gone. Kmart gone, gone. Sears gone. Sears used to be a major force in the world. Right, they're gone. When you start talking about all these other stores, I think they're, they're Macy's gone.
E
Yeah, Macy's out.
D
That me up all of these like.
C
Yeah, like Livingston Mall is a good example.
E
I'm saying the Macy's that was like the last. Hanging on and all right.
D
I think that all of these big box stores like that are basically out the door.
E
I just read something yesterday. AMC movie theaters on their way out the door.
D
They've been hovering for a decade.
E
They just announced they closing more of them within the next couple months.
D
And I said this, we had this argument about AMC up here. I said, yo, I think this shit is a rap. Y' all was arguing. Me, I think all of those. The way we used to live life is a rap, bro.
C
That's sad.
D
Like, I just think, I think it's a rap. I think it don't, it don't really benefit movie theaters. You got staff, you got rent, you got electricity, you got gas bills, you got all of these expenses. And I haven't seen a movie theater packed in a very long time. Maybe when one of the Marvel shits come out or some Star wars shit comes out, the movie theaters are packed. But just on a day to day weekend basis. That Edgewater movie theater up the street, dog, we used to go there on Saturdays and Fridays. That shit was a hangout growing up. That was 15 years ago. Now this shit is non existent.
A
Saturdays and Fridays, nigga. I pulled up there on a Wednesday morning to get a slushy and leave. That's a sicko. I was, was, oh wait, we got.
C
You go to just for the slushy and leave.
D
Yeah, we got to get you and ice cream.
B
We go for the, we go for the joke.
D
And ice cream used to be good as hell.
A
Berdoff Goodman is owned by Sachs Globe Global, which acquired the luxury retailer in December 2024 as a part of a $2.7 billion deal for the Neiman Marcus group. Following the acquisition, it operates under the Sax Global umbrella alongside Sax, Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus.
D
And now they just filed bankruptcy. Sacks just filed back. So they acquired Neiman Marcus, they acquired Bergdorf, they acquired all of these people and now they just filed bankruptcy. So again, I just think it's, it's a long time.
C
There's only one Sax in Philly and that. That they just announced they're closing. I think they closed a couple weeks ago.
D
This is.
A
Oh, I figured y' all would have like a Lords. What's some of the other ones. They closed already? Yeah, they're done.
C
I hate y'.
A
All. Y' all got a mall. Go ahead.
C
We're one of the biggest malls in America and one of the best. It is.
D
Wouldn't know King of Prussia.
C
Why would.
A
Why would you be. Why would I be in a Philadelphia mall?
E
It's not in Phil.
D
That's true.
C
What you mean by loud in Philly?
D
Like, I mean, it's a high end.
A
Why would I. But why would I be in a Philadelphia. Oh, like, sure. Hills. You're saying?
D
Yeah, it's high.
A
Yeah, it's like. So why would I go to Philly for high end? Say. Say that traveled a lot. Say that sentence nine times fast.
D
You ever been to tyson?
A
The philly. Tyson's chicken?
D
You never know Tyson's Corner.
A
No. Okay.
F
What is that?
A
What's that?
D
It's a mall in, like, D.C. virginia. It's there. It's there. It mall. It's fire. It's two buildings. It's two buildings side by side. No, I travel sometimes.
A
Don't say, he just got back from Trinidad. Watch your mouth.
D
I travel outside of content space. I travel to. I mean, enjoy life.
F
So my family. Content space.
D
I love your family. No, it doesn't. I'm just. I'm talking about Trevor Robinson Jr. Not your family. Don't cheat and bring them in.
F
That's who I traveled with.
D
I know.
F
I began.
A
Yeah, yeah.
D
You ain't traveled with them before that.
A
Wife was looking. Right.
D
And before that.
A
What did you say? What? You said.
F
Yes.
A
What's up?
F
What you say about my wife?
C
What?
F
What you say about my wife?
A
Say it again. You said that your wife was looking right when you got the makeover. The hair makeover.
F
Oh, you did do.
C
Your wife did do the makeover. It was dope.
F
Don't comment on my wife. I don't comment on nobody. Girls.
C
Did you post it? Did you post that? Who posted that?
F
That's the guy that did it. Did you?
A
Did you.
C
Were you mad that he posted it?
F
Antonio? Yeah.
C
Really?
F
I was mad. I was.
C
So the audience doesn't know. Do not go and watch this.
A
No, no, no.
F
I mean, they already got it. I mean, I mean, you know, like,
C
might want to tell always what we talking about.
F
I feel like just showing that vulnerable side of me is something that I'm not comfortable with, but yeah.
C
Your wife thought would makeover in the hair salon.
F
As long as she's happy, you keep. I'm gonna get you back.
C
Yeah, I'm not getting you back. The audience don't know what we talking about. Let's tell them what we're talking about.
F
They know the other gas.
C
Okay, then I'll leave it alone.
A
They know.
F
Yeah, they got. She gotta make makeover at some hair salon in Trinidad. Antonio. And. And, you know, I. I.
C
Did you not like the makeover? Just that was put on?
F
She looked amazing.
A
Huh?
D
You had to pay for it.
F
No.
C
You know, you don't pay for nothing.
D
No, no, no.
F
Well, I don't know. She probably did. I don't know, but I ain't pay for it.
A
With. With all due respect.
C
Oh, Lord. Oh, Lord.
A
Why does that.
C
Respectful?
A
What you mean?
E
If I'm saying face means disrespect is
A
following ish and ice. Y' all are right. But if I'm saying with all due respect, that mean I'm about to be respectful.
B
No, it don't disrespect the opposite.
A
We all do. There's no way to clean.
C
Keep a straight face.
A
With all due respect, when she got that beautiful makeover that Antonio gave her with the silver. With the silver hair, new hairdo, killing the streets, huh? Huh? That night, did you. Did you show your appreciation? Did you show. Did you show Antonio. I mean, you said.
D
Did he show Antonio appreciation?
A
No, not Antonio. Did you show your wife appreciation for Antonio?
F
I don't talk about my personal.
A
You went to work. Did you kill that out of town?
F
Yeah.
A
I knew it. I knew it.
D
What's wrong with you?
A
If you didn't kill it, just say that. Move on.
F
Just move on.
A
All right, yo, forget it then, man.
F
Here's the thing. I don't like that shit. N. I'm at the point.
C
I don't like either.
F
I'm happy about that.
C
What don't you like?
E
Tell me the fact that he posted it.
F
Well, I don't like that. Like, if you read a lot of the comments that people say that, yo, we ain't no queen flip wife is Trinity or how she look or she beautiful. I like to keep my personal shit private.
A
Yeah, me and you don't play that shit. They can't be both. Yeah, we don't play that.
F
But I had to support her. Don't give me a bad.
A
We don't play.
E
Oh, so you can smile?
F
Don't give me a bad boy. Let your.
C
Let your. Let your girl go to. Trinidad.
A
Go to. They actually Chris Rock over here.
F
You got to go.
C
You see.
F
You go.
C
You go.
B
Please.
A
Got to go. Joe, please.
F
That is an experience.
A
It's over with. We can see it when. When the apple TV screen go to Trinidad. Little moving come. We go everywhere. Look at this on China. Look. Stupid. Hell no. Stupid. Trinidad. You sh me.
B
Y', all, I'm ready for the Scream 7 review, man.
A
Yo, believe. Believe it or not, I. I can't kill it. It wasn't. You stay the other ones.
C
You stay.
A
Today I saw scream 1. I saw scream 2. I maybe saw scream 3. And then that was it. Checked out of there.
B
The last couple had been decent, but then they had to redo the whole. Whole cast over some Palestine. So I wasn't sure about how this one was going to go.
A
I stayed all the way to the end. This one is. What was the girl's name last night? Sydney.
C
Sydney.
A
Sydney, right.
D
The got to have kids now.
A
Sydney's daughter.
E
There you go.
D
Yeah, Grown.
A
Sydney's daughter. You know, how old is the daughter? She's 18, 17 something. No, it's high school, so 16. Somewhere around there. But anyway. Anyway, the daughter is 16, and now the guy from all those years ago is back because you survived and you had kids.
C
Ah, they kill everybody. I like stupid shit like this.
A
Is it cheesy? Yes. And did they spend a lot of time letting you know that, hey, this is. It opens up with them going to a house that is the murder house from the old screen. Scream.
D
Okay.
A
And it's a date. It's a girl and a guy on a date. And it's a murder house. And he. They're going through all the. From the old screens. So they did pay a lot of homage to the. To the old screens. It was a good. It was a good movie. It wasn't the worst. It wasn't the worst. I'm not gonna spoil it either. But it's more than one killer. Yep.
B
I think that is every screen also.
A
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
F
You cool with the Waynes?
A
Am I cool with the Waynes?
F
Yeah, you cool with the Wayne bros?
A
I'm not. Not cool with them.
F
Yeah, I know. I know.
B
We're not talking about a scary movie.
A
I'm talking about Scream.
C
Didn't.
F
Isn't the Wayne brothers.
E
That's what I was about to ask him.
A
Look at you.
F
Look at you trying to pick war.
A
Yo, you're right. You're right.
F
You got me.
A
I did see the trailer for the new scary movie, and it does look like good.
F
Yeah, it.
A
And it does look good.
E
I'm looking forward to that one.
A
Yeah, it does. But shout out to all the scream seven people. I'm looking forward to the Emmys in March. 15th.
B
No Oscars.
A
I mean the Oscars.
B
I'm sorry.
A
I'm sorry. The Oscars. March 15. I am looking forward to.
B
Me too. Cuz there ain't to watch on Sundays, yo.
D
Yeah. Stupid ass Game of Thrones. Going to only give six episodes.
E
That's why I watch it.
A
Stupid bastards.
E
I'm cool.
F
Hey, I got to go. I got. I got to go.
E
I'm not watching. Watch for that.
F
The whole season of the other Games of Thrones and I never continued it.
D
So you watched one that was just about to kick up.
F
No, I mean to the end when the short became the.
D
We'll fold that up right now.
A
Crazy.
D
Yo, why you got that sorry bum ass diatribe about Scream 7, yo, we can't even talk about.
A
And I did hear that United Kingdom shit is pretty dope. I did hear that. It's pretty dope too. So I'm talking all this shit, but shout out to you United Kingdoms dudes. I don't have anything else that I need to get out there. I don't. I'm pretty cool with our distribution of whatever news is out there. Yeah, yeah. I feel like we've aided. We've aided to your news cycle today. Sure. Oh, we did. We did. Especially in hour one. Bold, bold, heartfelt piece from Mark Lamont Hill.
B
The best in the business right there.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he is, man. He is.
B
He deserves a Golden Globe, apparently.
C
Got to get one of my own.
A
You got to earn this. You got to earn.
C
See what?
A
March break, one of these. You got to earn this thing, man. Sorry. They. We gonna be doing this shit all month, yo. It's gonna take more than a few eulogies, buddy. You got you. The thing is, see, some of y' all have a hot pod or a hot. Two pods or a hot. Or a hot year or a hot week. You wasn't hot all last year. Part of the year or a hot week? Think about part of the month. You gotta have a consistent month. You gotta be great for the whole month. If you want. If you want one of these.
C
That's the formula.
A
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You did it. You did it. Just. What do you think?
C
The formulation.
A
You popped it off.
C
You're the most recent winner.
A
What do you think?
C
The formula? Yeah.
A
Get the out of here. Get the out of here. You look like a named Woodrow. Get out of here.
C
He said you gotta go in spaces and kiss somebody.
F
That's the husband.
A
Old ass. Get out of here. Knowledge, knowledgeable. I don't have anything else that I think is super Important or needs our attention. I think. I think we did it. Let me just go over my list really quick, bro. Money bag. Actor. L. Yep. I'm done.
E
Why? I just want to ask, did y' all see Stevie Wonder at Marathon Burger?
C
I did.
B
I did not.
C
I did. They even started playing music for him. They play. What was it?
A
Ads.
C
They play ads for him, Dude. They were very happy. He was chilling, too.
B
He was.
E
I just wanted. That's the one I want to see in the kitchen.
F
Stevie Wonder.
D
Yes.
C
I bet you he's a. I know. Ray Charles was a great cook. I don't know if Stevie Wonder.
E
That was the one I was waiting for.
D
That one.
B
Did he wear a hair that.
E
No, he said he was a patron.
B
He just.
C
He was just chilling.
E
He was just chilling.
C
He was just chilling. Mind his own business. They were. People were excited. He looked young, too. Yeah, he did.
E
He looked real good. I'm joking over here.
A
But he looked good.
C
He got me to Jim Carrey.
A
Yeah. They was on my ass. The cold fans again. Letting me know that everybody that goes to the Marathon does go over there and flip burgers. Yeah. So y' all made a good point. If I'm wrong, I gotta come in here to the next part and say I'm wrong. But my point is, J. Cole flipping burgers looks funny and stupid. Stupid. Like. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't care if everybody did it. He looks stupid doing it. And he looks stupid driving a Civic to do it.
E
No, man. It's just connecting to his fans, bro.
A
All right, whatever. I love Cole, so I'll leave it alone.
F
Yeah.
A
Cuz the fans think I'm trying to be mean to Cole, and I like Cole.
E
It's looking that way.
C
It's looking that way.
A
It's looking that way over a Civic.
E
You won't let it go.
A
Said, no, I won't.
E
Again, he's found a.
A
A.
E
A new way to connect his family fans.
A
That's good, man. That's awesome.
B
They just announced we're getting a Darls Barkley album this Friday. Yeah, that should be something that I'm excited about.
E
Yeah, me too.
A
Wait, are y' all still allowed to listen to arms?
C
Why not?
B
Al Cao said some crazy.
C
Forget done some allegedly some crazy. That. That's why I went. That should be something. I didn't have much more comment on it.
A
Are y' all checking it out?
C
I don't know.
B
I guess I got to do some research on See, though. But I remember him saying some crazy. Some up I didn't know he did some up, man.
C
Allegedly.
E
Let me go. Look, y' all don't want to tell me nothing.
A
Don't worry about it.
B
Well, then maybe not.
A
Yeah, I love this song, but I love all the he's dissing in it, too. Rest in peace, Herb. Shout out to Josh celebrate his 50th birthday the other night. Happy birthday, Job. Actually, that's up. Oh, wow.
C
You can't
A
ice your words.
E
No, I'm just caught catching up on CeeLo. I didn't know any. About any of this, and.
B
Okay, so maybe I won't go listen to the GN Sparkly album this Friday.
A
That.
C
That's. That's why I was like, no, I get it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
E
I didn't notice, but yeah.
A
All right, man. Good show.
B
Happy birthday to John.
A
Happy birthday, job, man. Happy 50th. We love you, boy. Listen, hopefully y' all have enjoyed this show as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do Farewell. Adios. Arriba, dirche. Hasta la vista, arvois.
C
So long.
A
Goodbye. Or a simple head nod will suffice. Excuse me. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.
D
Hey,
A
It. What y' all doing this week? Anything fun? Anything fun? Anything interesting? What y' all doing this week?
C
I'm in Pittsburgh tonight. Wednesday night, I'm in Pittsburgh at 9pm at University of Pittsburgh.
A
Come through if you.
C
If you're in town.
A
Fire. Fire. Fire.
E
I'm slide over to the Blue Note and catch Jane Hancock show.
A
Oh, okay.
C
I'm jealous.
A
That sounds like fun. Yeah. Parks, what you on this week?
B
Studio.
A
I see you restarted slv, but, like, without me and Imani. You're vice it and Quran. I see you see you started that's open door. He's been coming over him. He. I don't with him neither. All right, that's it, man. We done. Let me turn off this and stop playing. Good episode today, man. Good vibes. Y' all hold it down. Listen, man, Next week in New York City next week. And you say New York City. 60 degrees. 65 degrees. 70 degrees.
C
76.
A
I'm just building it up, man. 76 degrees in New York City next week. Ladies, grab you a sundress. Shave that fat cat. Put your good pantyhose on.
E
Fun.
A
Yeah. I mean, get your good outfits and all of that. We Gonna have a time, man.
D
Go to my Russian laser lady.
A
You mean the ladies or you? The ladies. Oh, okay.
E
I thought you was.
A
No, you might. You might have to get that ass redone for the summer, man. Come on, yo, you see?
F
You gonna see a Russian lady, you.
E
I didn't say that.
D
I said the ladies should go to the Russian.
F
You coming out with some poo shorts, you freak ass. Boys talk, that is.
A
Yeah. Hey, they bottom shir. Yo, you stupid. Let me guess. Y' all are going to be all the way outside when it's 70 degrees next week, right?
B
It might be. I'm not going to lie to you.
D
Yes.
A
And you said it's daylight savings. Daylight savings. I'm mad about that.
F
How many this week is going to be on Tuesday?
D
Huh?
F
How many weeks? Go work day.
A
Oh, oh, wait.
D
Start coughing now.
F
Wait, what?
A
Because I want to hear. I want to hear what you were saying.
F
Tell me the degrees on Tuesday.
E
66.
A
Yeah.
F
You know how they come in? You know how act when they come in when it's hot outside on the work day?
A
How they act?
F
They get ready to leave.
A
Oh, you've been gone. You ain't been. I got a new trick. I got a new trick for that. No, go ahead.
F
You're not out of tricks.
A
Go. Go ahead.
F
Oh, you're not out of tricks.
A
Ain't seen my neutral.
F
Are you out of tricks?
A
Not out of tricks. Go ahead. When the weather get nice, go ahead.
F
Dude, are you out of tricks?
A
Watch Bizarro flips it right here.
F
Come on, man.
A
Yeah. What? What? Do that.
D
What?
A
K ain't streaming no more, boy, who going to save you? Hey, yo, K. K did to save you.
F
You want me to say what we talked about?
A
K did to save you, boy.
F
Yo, chill out, man.
A
Come to me.
F
Chill out,
A
man.
F
Are you okay?
A
Come today, daddy.
F
You ain't my daddy. Watch your.
A
Hey, yo. It's been such a great show. How dare you tell. Why you mad at me,
D
cuz?
F
You picking and choosing. Oh, yeah, yeah, Exactly.
A
Out of here, yo.
C
Yeah.
A
If you are not subscribed to the Joe Button Patreon, now is a good time to do so. Also, if you're not subscribed to the Mark and Imani Patreon, now's a good time to do so. Thank you.
C
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You've never heard of Joe Bud?
Date: March 4, 2026
Host: Joe Budden & The Joe Budden Network
Episode 908 of The Joe Budden Podcast, titled "NY Undercover," features Joe Budden and the crew—Parks, Ish, Ice, Mark Lamont Hill, Flip, and others—in an expansive, unpredictable conversation that ranges from joking about personal antics to deeply dissecting global politics, current events, and culture. Major themes include the war with Iran, political media literacy, relationships, pop culture news, industry trends, and, of course, sharp humor and live camaraderie.
"I'm wearing my custom one of one Joe Budden Podcast Potter of the Month chain. It does have some weight to it." — Joe Budden [03:11]
"For two years, the police refused to do the right thing. And finally, the district attorney agreed to drop the charges a couple days ago." — Mark Lamont Hill [25:36]
"Suddenly when it's a Black guy with a gun, it's a whole different game. Now all those right wingers, all the Second Amendment people didn’t say shit." — Mark Lamont Hill [26:17]
In-depth, sobering focus on the Iran conflict and U.S. foreign policy, led by Mark Lamont Hill:
"Do your own research. Don’t just listen to mainstream cable news... Listen to media from other places." — Mark Lamont Hill [33:41]
"We always say we're gonna go out there and liberate the women… all we do is go in and plunder and destroy. It's basically imperialism by new means." — Mark Lamont Hill [34:04]
"The world is on fire, y'all, on so many places and in so many ways." — Mark Lamont Hill [33:18]
"If y’all buy a chick a mattress, do you take agency over who’s on it?" — Joe Budden [64:33]
Debate erupts over whether it’s respectful for a baby’s father to be in a house that a new boyfriend is paying for. Mature vs. petty takes on blended family relationships.
The Hawks promote Magic City (strip club/restaurant), sparking debate on cultural significance vs. league image: "We parade the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders… I'm not saying that they're equal, but I'm saying they are in the same vein." — Ish [92:15]
Raphael Saadiq’s comments on “Neo Soul” as a label imposed for marketing, not as a musical movement.
"Neo Soul was a term created by one black executive purely as shorthand..." — Joe Budden (reading Saadiq) [117:44]
Bergdorf Goodman/Neiman Marcus bankruptcy, and the dying of big box department stores as shopping moves online.
"The way we used to live life is a rap, bro." — Ish [159:08]
Joe rants against the podcast/entertainment award submission process: "I'm not submitting for an Emmy, a Webby… nothing they do is going to change what it is." — Joe Budden [131:39]
"I don't believe that that was Jim Carrey. I don't think that was Jim Carrey. Now I'm basing that on absolutely nothing, so I have no fact..." — Joe Budden [144:42]
"There are plenty… of actors we like and love and adore their work that I would have never known their names that passed away last year." — Joe Budden [124:34]
"While this is happening, people are being bombed in Lebanon, people are being bombed in Gaza, partly because the smoke screen is up about what's happening in Iran." — Mark Lamont Hill [33:18]
"If you buy a chick a mattress, do you take agency over who’s on it?" — Joe Budden [64:33]
"The public trust is at an all-time low when it comes to politicians and politics and government…" — Ish [50:09]
"I'm happy to be at this space that we made some new… That's real, that's real shit." — Ice [76:09]
"…By giving him that category, he's now pulling from a much smaller pool of minority business funds…" — Mark Lamont Hill [120:23]
"It disconnects you from the tradition. It’s like, I’m a soul artist. Why am I different than this person?" — Mark Lamont Hill [120:55]
"As a rebel and a hip hop lover, any chance I get to say ‘f*** you’ to the system, I'm going to try to say it. Unless I'm hurting myself." — Joe Budden [138:38]
This episode is quintessential “JBP”: offbeat, sometimes chaotic, and at its best when shifting from punchlines to poignant social commentary. If you missed it, expect:
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