Episode 909 | "Trash Day"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 909 | "Trash Day"

March 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a lively and unapologetically raw roundtable discussion between Joe Budden and his co-hosts, featuring conversations about internet rumors, religion vs. science, new music releases (and disappointments), the culture of classic albums, fast food debates, political stories, and global conflicts. The group, including Big Mona, Mark Lamont Hill, Parks, Ice, and Amani, mixes personal experiences, sharp commentary, and plenty of jokes, tackling both pop culture and serious issues in their trademark authentic style.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Internet Rumors & Mona’s Absence

• Rumors of Firing: Joe and Mona address rumors about her recent absence. Mona admits to muting negativity on social media and discusses the toll of online comments on mental health.

  “Behind closed doors, cupcakes, bro. You can’t give me the sweetest, the sweetest thing.”
  —Joe (02:00)

• Health Update: Mona shares she's been dealing with seizures due to stress and blood pressure, discussing the pressure to maintain content output even during health crises.

2. Faith, Science, & Spirituality (03:40–10:30)

• Belief vs. Science: Lively philosophical debate about whether science or faith better explains the unexplainable.

  "It’s arrogant of humans to think your little man-made science…figured everything out."
  —Joe (05:11)

  “Believers have faith. For me, the world is so fucked up I couldn’t imagine living without having faith.”
  —Big Mona (08:10)

• Tolerance and Perspective: Mark, Parks, and Ice emphasize the distinction between evidence-based understanding and faith, agreeing both seek to address life’s big mysteries.

3. Christianity, Slavery, and History (11:02–13:50)

• Debunking Myths: Amani talks about his faith and debates with Killer Mike, insisting Christianity’s African roots predate transatlantic slavery.

  "Christianity existed before the transatlantic slave trade. The first church was set up in Ethiopia."
  —Amani (12:27)

• Weaponization of Religion: Discussion touches on the use of religion to justify oppression and the re-writing of texts for control.

4. Family, School Closures & 90s Nostalgia (14:00–18:30)

• Parenting Challenges: Ice’s story about a school shutdown due to a burst pipe segues to reminiscing about watching “The NeverEnding Story” and 90s TV shows.
• Modern Childhood: The group critiques kids' digital lives vs. their own upbringings filled with simple pleasures.

5. Music Release Reviews: “Trash Day” (29:02–52:00)

General Vibe

• Disappointing Drops: The panel agrees it was a weak week for new music—hence the episode title.

  “It was garbage… trying to explain the unexplained, but really the release day was trash.”
  —Joe (19:47)

Specific Reviews

• Gnarls Barkley: Highly anticipated final album is widely panned.

  "You should have left this in the studio."
  —Ice (31:29)

• Ty Dolla $ign – Girl Music (feat. Ron Isley, Brandy, Leon Thomas): Mixed reviews; Leon Thomas stands out.

  "Leon Thomas became what Ty Dolla $ign used to be – as soon as you see it, you're like, 'all right, let me hear what he did on this record.'"
  —Mark (36:06) "Saying that is disrespectful to Leon Thomas."
  —Joe (36:20)

• Yebba: Album criticized as "too poppy" and vanilla—“not for me” but recognized as quality music.

• Jeremih and Pharrell’s Gospel Album: Dismissed as underwhelming or "hot garbage."

• Denzel Curry’s Compilation: Labeled "festival rap," not for everyone.

Fast-cut Timestamped Odes

• 31:12–32:10: Gnarls Barkley disappointment
• 33:23–36:00: Ty $/Leon Thomas praise
• 51:03–51:33: Yebba's "too white, poppy"
• 52:14–52:55: Jeremih’s dated mixtape trashing
• 53:00–53:17: Denzel Curry’s compilation notes

6. The “Classic Album” Debates (61:26–84:13)

• Defining a Classic:

  "Classic is something above anything that's happening in its time period, with a component of longevity."
  —Parks (67:53)

• Can an album have skips and still be a classic? Yes, but opinions differ on examples.
• Who has the most classics? Jay-Z, Kanye, Nas, Kendrick are all mentioned.
• Top MCs without Solo Classic Albums: (as per viral list breakdown)
  • Highlights: Busta Rhymes, Ludacris, Inspectah Deck, Black Thought, Fabolous, Jadakiss, Method Man, Grand Puba, Andre 3000 (debated).

“AM and PM, man… hard to compare. It just depends.”
—Amani/Parks on Jay vs. Kanye

7. Music Industry—More Trash, Fewer Hits (90:02–98:15)

• SahBabii’s “Good Music Breakup” previewed
• Admissions: Ice and Parks publicly apologize for underestimating J. Cole's streaming success against Bruno Mars.

  "We disagreed that J. Cole would do better than Bruno Mars. Numbers came out; you were absolutely right."
  —Parks (91:20)

8. TV, Streaming, and Fast Food Banter (100:00–137:00)

• Paradise Show Recap & Spoilers: Joe recounts the plot of “Paradise,” highlighting gender dynamics, with cynical commentary about patriarchy and apocalypse logistics.
• Reality TV Recommendations from Mona (Love Lockdown, Love Abroad).
• RIP iPic Movie Theater: Group laments closure and reminisces about luxury movie experiences.
• Stealing from Airports: Joe admits to smuggling snacks for sport, with the group riffing on the hustle.
• Fast Food Battles:
  • Twitter banter among Wendy’s, Popeye’s, and Church’s Chicken draws laughs.
  • Debate over best fries: McDonald's and Checkers top the list, Five Guys and niche picks like Taco Bell's nacho fries get love.
  • KFC, Popeye’s, and regional preferences divided the room:

    “Figures. That tracks.”
    —Joe razzing Mark Lamont Hill for his KFC loyalty (136:50)

• White vs. Black Food Culture:

  “Do y’all think that white people’s taste buds are the same as black people’s?”
  —Joe (133:44)

9. Cultural Representation: Captain Durag (151:47–153:58)

• Backlash & Perspective: Disney introduces Captain Durag on Hey AJ, causing debate about positive vs. stereotypical representation.

  “If we know something is for us by us, we view it differently than if they were to come up with it.”
  —Joe (156:11)

10. Political Deep Dive (163:42–176:27)

• Trump’s DHS Firings: Analysis of Kristi Noem’s firing over millions in promotional spending and nepotism, explaining why this mattered on both sides.

  “Biggest rule working for Donald Trump: you don’t do that shit.”
  —Ice (171:25)

• Jasmine Crockett’s Primary Loss: Mark Lamont Hill emphasizes the impact of gerrymandering on her congressional and Senate bids and the larger implications for Democrats in Texas.

11. Global Affairs: Iran & War (176:27–200:31)

• Iran vs. US:
  • Panel reflects on Iran’s toughness, potential for World War III, and how the US is viewed globally.
  • Mark and Ish argue the US underestimates Iran, who have prepared for decades.
  • Joe asks, “Do you want America to actually win the war, even if you don’t agree with their motives?” — the group weighs patriotism vs. imperialism and the real meaning of "winning."

    “I don’t root for a win…because I know what a win would mean.”
    —Mark (183:30)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Mona’s Absence (00:58):

"You let me take a lot of heat across socials… when you miss an episode they thought I fired you then."
—Joe

On Faith vs Science (06:05):

"In my higher power talk… there’s some shit your science will never be able to answer."
—Joe

On Music Critique (31:29):

"You should have left this in the studio."
—Ice, on Gnarls Barkley’s final album

On the ‘Classic’ Album Test (67:53):

“My biggest thing: classic is better than everything in its time period, with longevity. It doesn’t have to be perfect."
—Parks

On Political Nepotism (170:49):

“It’s clear nepotism, it’s clear cronyism. …When you see that play out, it’s indefensible.”
—Ice

On U.S.-Iran Conflict (183:29):

“Do you want us to win this war? Us, as in America? We don’t have to agree with why it started … but once it’s in, shouldn’t you be rooting for a win?”
—Joe

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Mona’s Social Media and Mental Health | 00:57–03:02 | | Religion vs Science | 03:40–10:30 | | Christianity’s Roots Discussion | 11:02–13:50 | | Parenting, School Closures, 90s TV | 14:00–18:30 | | Music "Trash Day" Starts | 29:02 | | Ty Dolla $ign/Leon Thomas Debate | 36:00–40:10 | | Classic Album Debate & List | 61:26–84:13 | | Yebba, Jeremiah, Pharrell music takes | 51:03–52:55 | | Fast Food, Airport Theft, Food Culture | 100:00–137:00| | Captain Durag Reaction | 151:47–153:58| | Political Stories – DHS & Jasmine Crockett | 163:42–176:27| | U.S.–Iran War Discussion | 176:27–200:31| | Closing/Weekend Plans | 201:16–end |

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode is heavily conversational, bouncing from playful teasing (about absences, unions, fast food preferences) to robust, thoughtful analysis on culture, music, and politics—never losing the authentic and irreverent JBP tone. Even heavy segments (on war, loss, or politics) are leavened with inside jokes, skepticism, and reflection, keeping listeners engaged and entertained, regardless of their prior knowledge of the topics.

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For first-time listeners or those catching up:

• This episode highlights the signature blend of culture, critique, humor, and real-world concerns that set the JBP apart, all wrapped in the unpredictable chemistry of its hosts.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

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[Big Mona]

Hey, guys.

[Joe Button]

Big Mona in the building. Big Mona is in the building. What's poppin, boy?

[Big Mona]

They fired you. Go to hr, get yourself back.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's my problem. And that's my problem with Mona.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's why she didn't do it.

[Joe Button]

Joke, guys.

[Big Mona]

I wasn't fired.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, because you let me take a lot of heat across socials when you miss the episode or when you know, I mean, they thought I fired you then. I didn't shout you out last week because I'm not shouting nobody out. When they going through their private. That's their story to tell. But they, they, they. Boy, they tore me up. I thought my girl was going to hit the timeline and be like, nah, y', all, I'm, I'm straight. Everything is okay. I still work with the gang. But no, not a peep.

[Big Mona]

First of all, not a peep. I am so corny like that that I really feel like, yeah, you supposed to go and say like, oh, what are y' all talking about? But I didn't really see it. Like, I don't know what f y' all talking about. I tapped into Twitter a little bit, cursed out a few.

[Joe Button]

It was right there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I saw you.

[Big Mona]

But I've taken my brother's advice and I muted a lot of stuff. I told y' all that I read comments about myself for like two hours at four in the morning, like, I'm about to go and cry.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

And I muted myself after that. Like, I ain.

[Joe Button]

Don't cry, don't cry. That's the thing that confirms the long standing theory I've had about the fucking tough bitches on the exterior behind closed doors. Cupcakes, bro. You can't give me the sweetest, the sweetest thing.

[Big Mona]

You know why you can't give me that even though I am, I am very soft.

[Amani]

You're a cupcake.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, but I was on my period. I've been doing this for 10 years. You know what I mean? Like, I've never done that. I've never really. Like, normally I would find somebody, go to their page, find their ashy Grandma. Go on the grandma. I can't do that no more because I lose my page. Then it would be. I'll see it and I'll mute it. Because there's so many ways that you can change your page to not be able to see stuff like that. So everybody's calling you a whore and you mute the word. They could type whore every day, but nobody sees it but them in Jesus. So it's things, you know? But I just. That day I just decided to read. And again, this is a new thing for me. So when I first was reading these comments, because I do want to get people what they want. You know what I mean? So I want to tap in, but it's like, these niggas is hard to please. I don't think you really can at this point.

[Joe Button]

So Mona is very happy to be here with us.

[Parks]

Speak for her.

[Joe Button]

No, no, I know that because of how she's hugged everyone today.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's true.

[Parks]

I didn't give a hug. But it's all because she just been.

[Joe Button]

Well, you know why? Her deep rooted beliefs.

[Parks]

Yeah,

[Joe Button]

actually her not so deep rooted beliefs. And that's how we got here. Mona came in and immediately got into one of her favorite bags, which is to, you know, harass you. You know what I mean? Spread the good word of the Muslim faith. You like the nigga in the train when you trying to catch the f. You like the. Like, you get your shit off. And she immediately called me a Christian.

[Big Mona]

Oh, my God. I called him a believer at first, y'. All. I said believer. He's a believer. He's a believer in a higher power. You know, I've been corrected, but I just feel like knowing Joey or whatever, but potting with him just certain things that he's. What you said that made me say that was.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You were talking about.

[Big Mona]

We were talking about science. And when you said whatever you said about what you thought about science, I

[Joe Button]

said you were talking about Corey being. What is he again? An atheist buddy in love now. So let's see where his views stand

[Big Mona]

in a few days.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That'll tell him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that'll change.

[Ice]

Have a suit on.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Giving his life to the Lord.

[Big Mona]

Deacon Cory, if the a witness now he driving her door to door.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Watch tower, my brother.

[Joe Button]

So Mona was talking about how Corey's an atheist. And I jumped in and said that I. I've been listening to some clips of Neil DeGrasse recently and I get the feeling that he may be too.

[Ice]

And I said he believes in science.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, science.

[Joe Button]

And then I thought about some of the areas I Disagree with Neil DeGrasse Tyson and. Okay, Neil DeGrasse Tyson believes science to be the end all. Be all of all things. And if it's not scientifically proven or disproven, then he's just not. He's just not subscribing to it. And I don't believe in that shit at all. I'm totally on. I think it's arrogant of humans to think that your little man made science, got on earth and figured everything out.

[Ice]

I think this.

[Joe Button]

I think there's some shit that you cannot account for and will not be able to account for with your little tools.

[Parks]

But the rest of it, I'm gonna go ahead with science.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Yes.

[Parks]

Okay, cool.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, but see, I think that's. That's where science is. So right now, yes, you're right. And then as people keep learning and experimenting and now we uncover more shit. Just look at history. It's shit that we knew as fact 200 years ago. That is completely wrong. Why? Because science has evolved enough to prove it. I think as they keep going, they keep discovering new shit. They keep discovering new sciences and new theories and whatever they understand more. They know, they don't understand it all.

[Joe Button]

In my higher power talk. My higher power talk to me is greater than Neil DeGrasse's science talk. There's some shit that your science will never be able to answer. So when I start speaking to him because I'm spirituality, when I start speaking to him about what he believes happens when we leave here, he's very scientific. He's very. There's no proof that. Do you remember when you were a nut inside? Do you remember that? There's no proof to say that death won't be like pre birth and non existence. Get the. I don't. He can't convince me of that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I know too many people that woke

[Joe Button]

up and seen a dead mother in the corner talking to them. I believe in mediums. I believe that there are people that read other shit that you humans and your tools can't read.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And I believe that to have happened by design.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But see the other side of that. The ones who question that think that's just a coping mechanism. Like you didn't really see your mom in the corner. Yeah, it's part of your. You processing your grief. You thought you saw your mom and that's how you're helping deal with it. And there's no way to prove or disprove either one of them.

[Joe Button]

And that's why it's Greater than science. And that's why it's greater than science. You're not going to be able to prove or disprove it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like I said, I think science and religion are doing the same thing. Neither one of them can. They're both trying to question how we got here and where are we going

[Parks]

when we leave and why we're here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that's the two questions. And they're going about it in different ways. Religion is faith based. So we were told something, we believe it. We don't need proof. Science is now we have to prove this. And we're going to keep going until we can prove or disprove it. Until we get either one of those. We don't believe it either.

[Big Mona]

And the big difference is faith. That's the thing. You're going to always your intelligent, your scientific, whatever. You're going to always be able to talk to a believer and prove something to them that goes against what they believe. But that's why believers have faith. Believers have faith is what I think is really what it is. And, and that's why it's real and that's why it's true. And that's the big difference. That's why it's like, it's almost like it's a waste of a debate when it comes to people that believe in science. Because the faith part, that's the whole thing. And for me the world is so fucked up I couldn't imagine living without having faith. Because without the faith part it's like why would you care about doing things to people or being nasty? You know what I mean? Like, what would anything matter if you didn't have any faith? That it was somebody watching and it was going to be some type of judgment or something.

[Ice]

But then there, there are lots of atheists who are good people and don't steal or kill people and do, and do. And they don't. No, no, I'm with you and I'm saying,

[Big Mona]

I'm telling you that's it.

[Joe Button]

Well, you a criminal as a Muslim.

[Big Mona]

And that's the thing about, and that's the thing about Muslims are flawed, Christians are flawed, we all are. For me, Muslims are flawed. Islam is perfect. Not Muslims, Muslims, just people. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

It's like at the top you say what and not at the top. That's why I don't like people like to have these talks with you and Mark present.

[Ice]

I don't, I never talk about religion.

[Joe Button]

I know but I see, I see your skin boil.

[Ice]

No, no, I just, I See, Miz

[Joe Button]

coming out, he ready to tell the truth.

[Ice]

I got some pamphlets in my back. No, I was thinking about the opposite. I was thinking about how many people also worship science. You know, and that becomes. It's. That becomes a problem too if you become so beholden to science that you believe everything that scientists tell you. Because scientists, like you said, are just trying to figure out they use the best tools you have at the moment to make sense of the world until you get new tools.

[Parks]

It's evolving.

[Ice]

Yeah, it's always evolving.

[Big Mona]

Constantly.

[Ice]

Yeah. Now that doesn't make me not believe the world is a sphere. It doesn't make me not believe that, like I can predict rain or you know, whatever or you know, what to eat or, you know, there are lots of things that I would lean into science for. But I also don't want to worship science any more than I want to. Any more than a scientist would tell people not to worship something that they can't see, you know? Lastly, I don't. I never talk about religion with people. Partly because the cult and spent so many years doing it, but lots of bad stories, but also because it doesn't get. I don't think it gets anywhere. I feel like some people need to believe in things in order to be good people and to stay sane. And if that's what keeps you from doing that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So be honest.

[Ice]

What am I saying? Menace, if Allah can make you a better man than Jesus. Can't. Remember Charles Dutton said it too. I'm all for it. Cool. You know, whatever.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Whatever work for you.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. I got my tinfoil crew here today. I see what's going on. So the joke I've been making ever since I got here today, I've been teasing B Dot because we've had a very poor music release day.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's not great.

[Joe Button]

So his super. He's been zapped of his superpowers to be able to just discuss music and albums. But he shocked me. He had a trick in his back pocket. He burst out of nowhere and he said, well, I'm a Christian.

[Amani]

I am peace God.

[Ice]

He started breaking down the history hip hop is.

[Parks]

I'll think of that.

[Joe Button]

I didn't know that B dad was a Christian. Yeah, man. And I listen to all of rap radar.

[Amani]

I am a believer. Yes. Actually, me and Killer Mike got into it once about faith based things, so.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Amani]

Yeah. And that conversation ended up in a Christian based movie, believe it or not.

[Joe Button]

Get out of here.

[Ice]

What was the Tyler Perry movies? TD Jakes movies. Oh, serious.

[Amani]

No, it was a movie about td.

[Joe Button]

Still free, huh?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It was all right.

[Joe Button]

He's still out for now.

[Amani]

It was about YouTube's Coming Up Fast.

[Ice]

And he like, let me get all this out before they rain me.

[Joe Button]

You say me that.

[Amani]

No, it was a movie debunking the fact that, you know, Christianity is a white man's religion. Remember when Killer Mike had the show on Netflix and he was talking about that? Yeah. So him and I went back and forth on that.

[Ice]

Who won?

[Amani]

I think it was pretty. I think. Well, I end up in a movie, so I guess I won.

[Joe Button]

Right. Okay.

[Big Mona]

But what was your position? That it is a.

[Amani]

No, it's not a white man's religion. That's just propaganda.

[Big Mona]

So when people. Some people are under the thought of that.

[Amani]

Yeah. Killer Mike was at the time.

[Ice]

He was saying that Christianity.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Amani]

In his Netflix special. He was going around, you know, trying to explain or trying to figure out why that was the position of Christianity when I told him, it's not.

[Big Mona]

So it's not. It's not a fact that Africans were introduced to Christianity through slavery? That's not a thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, it's not.

[Amani]

I mean, Christianity existed before the transatlantic slave trade. Actually, the first. It ended up in Ethiopia under the Gospel of Mark. He took it there, and it spread throughout the world.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Balance that Muslim shit out. You be talking. Yeah, Son of Martha, I want to hear you.

[Big Mona]

You know, I mean, we not.

[Amani]

It existed like the first. Like I said, the first church was set up in Ethiopia, and that's the only. That's one of the only nations. Only one of the only nations in Africa that's never been colonized.

[Joe Button]

So mute up, yo. I don't want no no more. Inshallah today. He did that during Ramadan, too. That's crazy. While they hungry as hell, he.

[Big Mona]

Damn. That being true or not, right. It wouldn't matter. It still doesn't mean that it wasn't. Slavery wasn't introduced to a lot of African Americans.

[Parks]

It was weaponized by a lot of Europeans.

[Big Mona]

Bibles redone so slave owners could feel better about beating the shit out of their slaves.

[Joe Button]

And the women, like, listen, Marathon Burger, did we ever get to the bottom of it?

[Parks]

We didn't.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God, I'm so happy to see y'.

[Big Mona]

All.

[Ice]

Happy to see y' all, too.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Happy to be.

[Joe Button]

I'm happy to see y'.

[Amani]

All.

[Joe Button]

My man Mark is here.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You all right?

[Ice]

I'm great, man. I'm great. I was. Thought I wasn't gonna see y' all today for a minute. But it worked out, you know, I was. I was driving my kid to school, and I got a note, like, right at the school start time that the school was shut down. Cause the pipe burst and there was no running water or toilets.

[Big Mona]

They let that shit up, don't they?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And I was like, that shit up.

[Big Mona]

I'm telling you.

[Ice]

That didn't sound like enough of an argument for keeping the school.

[Joe Button]

Who run the school?

[Amani]

City Housing Authority.

[Ice]

Did you?

[Joe Button]

Yes, I saw it.

[Ice]

No, you see him?

[Joe Button]

Well, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yo, they only sent that email to Mark.

[Big Mona]

Your school is open.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

School is open.

[Big Mona]

All his classmates in. Classmates.

[Ice]

What do we tell him?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Y' all tell him the pipe burst.

[Joe Button]

Tell him to pipe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We not doing this today.

[Amani]

That sound like the Lean on Me school, man.

[Ice]

Yo, I know, don't it. They don't charge like one, though, man.

[Joe Button]

Wait, you paying in the pipe, bro? Wait, this is a private school? Yes.

[Big Mona]

You know, that boy's.

[Joe Button]

Oh, come on. If I'm paying for a private school, I'm never watching my son between hours at 8am and 3pm y' all better

[Big Mona]

have something at the house for him.

[Joe Button]

Yo, that watching your own kid shit, right?

[Ice]

And my wife out of town, so we ain't have a lot of options.

[Parks]

Oh, man.

[Ice]

So she left yesterday, which was, you know. So I got the next two or three days to myself.

[Big Mona]

That's like the best part of stardom, that you don't have to see your children and your family no more.

[Ice]

That's what I thought. Turns out when the school closing, the work day, you got to bring us. I brought him here.

[Amani]

This is the 80s. He would have been home, man.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Amani]

Bob Barker would have been babysitter.

[Big Mona]

I walked and seen that Sandy brown fro. What the hell is this doing? It is real. This only speak Spanish. This know how Blind glass, y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ice]

You thought I was joking.

[Big Mona]

This is for real. This really.

[Joe Button]

Well, that was the angle you had walking in my angle from the side. He was getting choked out. His son was definitely choking and choking him all the way out.

[Big Mona]

I was gonna leave out the fact that he picked Mark up from his thighs and tried to flip.

[Ice]

He's freakishly strong.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Amani]

I didn't know Mark was a bilingual. That could come in handy.

[Parks]

Trilingual.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He speak Arabic as well.

[Big Mona]

Arabic?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. That's why I got. I got a really important question for him in hour three. I have a really important question for Mark.

[Amani]

I'm good in the corner stores, man.

[Joe Button]

Spanish, Arabic, bodega.

[Ice]

I can't do a bodega. But yeah, no, he's wearing me out already. But he was actually chill today. Much chiller than last time.

[Big Mona]

He seemed like he just didn't like any of us.

[Ice]

No, he was really gregarious till you came in, I swear.

[Big Mona]

Oh, he don't like me.

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Ice]

He spoke to Phelps. He was about to sit on Phelps lap, gave him a hug.

[Big Mona]

He was a little Latina.

[Ice]

They're the same height too.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Big Mona]

Stop playing with my hand.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit. And if the school closes, it should be like a substitute school.

[Ice]

It should be something.

[Joe Button]

A plan B school or some shit. Yeah, like an after school program, but in the daytime or some shit. Where they sit and watch Never Ending Story. Like we did a million times.

[Big Mona]

Exactly. Where's the tv? On the little rolly cart.

[Joe Button]

Yo, do y' all know it's a Never Ending Story 2 and 3?

[Parks]

No, I did not know that.

[Joe Button]

Who knew that?

[Ice]

Wait, how can a never ending story have a part two?

[Big Mona]

Let's cut these cameras off and watch it.

[Ice]

Ass.

[Parks]

I never knew that.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, let's watch it.

[Parks]

The movie's also like an hour and 15 minutes long or something like that. It's mad short.

[Ice]

Mad short for Never Ending Story.

[Joe Button]

Right. Well, they had that and Charlotte's Web on loop for me in second grade, so.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, the next chapter.

[Joe Button]

See?

[Parks]

What year did it come out? That's important.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Two came out in 90.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And three came out in 94.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wow. I don't care.

[Ice]

What?

[Big Mona]

Nobody said. Nothing's better than those 90 movies. Nothing. None of them. None of them. Even the TV shows.

[Amani]

I was just thinking about that. We haven't had a good coming to age movie in a long time.

[Joe Button]

No, we ain't coming to America too.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right.

[Parks]

You can play music.

[Big Mona]

Even the little cartoon shows. Remember the cartoon shows with those ugly ass dinosaurs?

[Amani]

Yeah, dinosaurs.

[Parks]

They knocked the mama land before time.

[Big Mona]

What? Wait a minute.

[Amani]

You talking about the TV shows on abc? Like knock the mama.

[Big Mona]

They were all like big and fat.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Big Mona]

One was in a high chair.

[Amani]

Yeah, I'm the baby, Gotta love me.

[Big Mona]

Yes, yes. Fraggle Rocks. Like all that.

[Ice]

You kids don't watch this stuff no more.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They watch iPads and talk to girls that they all.

[Ice]

My stu.

[Big Mona]

Our children are playing Roblox with 40 year olds and they think they're children.

[Parks]

That's sick.

[Joe Button]

Okay, let's start. I'm done with. I'm done with moaning. Now tell me, how long are we supposed to act like this? You won't never get on track like this. How can I ever Tell you how I feel if you react like this you call me over here to talk not get attacked like this Funny got your track shoes on but what you running from? I know where you going and where you coming from that's immaturity showing you know my rainy day playlist. I'm your soulmate and it's me again until you get horny enough and won't me again I just want to treat you good and do better. Old school old school now yeah I was there I used to love performing this record it always works it always works. How dare you tell me it's tougher for you like I don't care about them you with too I never knew you thought like that who knew that you was in the sports like that. Player big jersey what up out there Jersey City what up Hope they you and making you they ball player come

[Ice]

to me I just get a hard time.

[Joe Button]

All wait for the ladies all wait for the ladies yeah but the part I don't respect is you so cool with every other one of your exes it's history between us all ain't right either Back and forth, domestic all they flight see they want you close to me Supposedly you say you over me that just come across as a joke to me Cause you ain't got the kind of love that expires Worst case you'll get tired tell your friends I'm alive I'm alive oh wow. Mic check 12, 12 can you say New York City?

[Ice]

So who's running the poker game? Yes sir.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

South Carolina.

[Joe Button]

What up out there there? North Carolina what up after Give up poker Just trying to explain the unexplained yes sir. Make it sustainable Collecting all the parts see if they interchangeable Killing me slow but I'm glad it's entertaining you you every day it amazed me the same thinking it pay me the same thinking it plague me how can I think I'm crazy Sway me cuz the profit off of shit that hates me is actually pretty wavy I'm painting a perfect picture Hold DMB what's going on Boston? What's doing out there? Pro currency off of that kind of sickness Changes the meaning of mind my business Given what was given to me so the soldiers come over sober and

[Ice]

call me Yoda instead of Jo Shout

[Joe Button]

out to the patronies all the groups

[Ice]

out there

[Joe Button]

got a counter full of liquor pocket full of pills the illusion of control I can tell you how it feels Accounts full of paper and the women I play with all got criminal bodies Innocent faces come around and we have a ball could have it all while I ran out of Adderall but that's a matter of a call check it art is they start telling me they haunted regardless they end up one hard you would think they've been ordained got her legs in the air and she's screaming got a great show lined up for you today her mind that's when all them thoughts came she keeps saying if I wanna I should fight for my fight for yeah I was in my Joe Button playlist bag last night yeah I was it was windy as hell

[Ice]

it's like she loved

[Joe Button]

me but she don't that's when she

[Ice]

lose me that's when she gives it's

[Joe Button]

what I get involved with can't call it she think I should remove her her since I installed it but I wish she knew I was perturbed too bird see what hurt me more knowing I hurt you even though it exists I don't never bring it up we don't be doing nothing presently she bring up the past and it's filthy you not talking to who I was or who I will be but that's my only so weird listening to this Richard self sabotage rather not salute on me. Everybody have a shot I do it for the they said wouldn't have a shot. Keep this applause going for the best crew on earth. Get these drops out the way real quick. Icy, who is that? And Mona and B Dot.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We gotta fix that.

[Joe Button]

B Dot and Mona. Here we go. We'll figure it out.

[Big Mona]

Wait a minute. That's what you're not. Don't even play around. Don't even play around.

[Joe Button]

What happened?

[Big Mona]

Big Ain't never gonna be no moaning. It beat out in moaning.

[Joe Button]

No, I said Mona and B Dot.

[Big Mona]

No. Then you tried to switch it to B Dot and Mona.

[Joe Button]

No, you're right. That is right.

[Big Mona]

M Dot and then B Dot.

[Joe Button]

That's foul.

[Big Mona]

Imona.

[Joe Button]

We just met. Y' all word that part too. She comes on strong at first to know where it's the Lover909 welcome to episode 909 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by power, by prize picks. Prize picks. Gang girl, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful extreme. Happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Y' all was talking, but she's here. Don't call her white girl.

[Parks]

Don't do it.

[Joe Button]

Big Damona's in the building.

[Big Mona]

Hey, guys.

[Joe Button]

How you doing, Demona?

[Big Mona]

I am well.

[Joe Button]

Good. Good to have you.

[Big Mona]

It's the shoulder I'm half dead.

[Ice]

I'm about to say you ain't. Well, don't tell people that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Pulled up here on the street, stretcher. He rolled me here to the chair in the wheelchair and propped me up. You ever see a Weekend at Bernie's weekend?

[Parks]

Modus.

[Ice]

I was worried about you.

[Joe Button]

What happened?

[Big Mona]

I had a seizure, guys. Yeah, I had a. I had my first seizure last January. So since I've had a couple.

[Ice]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. But seizures to the people out there that have seizures, they kind of, like, wear you out after. And I wasn't. Nobody was at the house, so, you know, it was pretty bad.

[Ice]

Have they gotten to the bottom of why it's happening?

[Big Mona]

Yeah, it's. It's blood pressure, but it's like a stress thing. Like. Like I'm getting, like. You know what's funny? I used. I've always been a talker. I talk a lot or whatever, but being that I do this now, I'm quiet. So when I go through shit, I'm not talking about it. And it's like. It's starting to be overwhelming.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sorry.

[Joe Button]

Weird. Where are you quiet?

[Big Mona]

No, I'm quiet at home. Like, I don't like you. I used to be like, life at a party person. I'm talking to everybody. I'm always having. Or I'm on the phone all day long. Like, I don't talk on the phone. I don't talk to people. I talk for a living. So it's not the same, you know, Bob. And I'm transparent with a lot of my. So the Internet know what's going on? Most of the time. But, yeah, that was. Was really. That's really it.

[Ice]

Is there anything you could do to reduce the stress? I just don't want you to be in a bad spot. Especially.

[Big Mona]

I'm thinking, life alert. I'm thinking, get on some whole old nigga shit. On some Life Alert shit. I need somebody to really hit the. Ms. Demona, are you all right? I'm good, Abigail. You know what I mean?

[Ice]

I was thinking more like diet and exercise. Not just like, oh, the intercom.

[Big Mona]

Yes, for sure. Diet, exercise. I'm on it. I got up this morning, I ran two miles of sleep. Said to myself, I couldn't imagine waking up and not running them. You know what I mean?

[Ice]

I dig it, man. You just. I just feel like you're doing too much. I just love you. I don't want you to do too much.

[Joe Button]

I saw you uploaded. You uploaded an episode and I clicked on it, and, yeah, you look like,

[Big Mona]

do you watch my podcast?

[Joe Button]

You had, like, a seizure is kind of.

[Ice]

Yeah, you did.

[Joe Button]

And I'm sitting there.

[Ice]

You all black, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You didn't look. You look like you was zapped.

[Big Mona]

First of all, I had on all black. I was trying to give like a. Like a.

[Ice]

Like a.

[Big Mona]

What do they call it? The Panthers. I was trying to give a panther

[Parks]

look, I thought you're gonna say widow.

[Big Mona]

No. Okay. Okay, fellas, that's what we gonna do.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm just saying.

[Big Mona]

Y' all gonna do me like that.

[Joe Button]

Okay. I'm just saying, you didn't have to up. It's okay to not upload content while you're going through a health crime bullshit.

[Big Mona]

Does the Joe Button show miss a week?

[Joe Button]

Joe Button?

[Ice]

Sometimes we have, but there's also seven of us.

[Big Mona]

My last podcast, four years. I think I missed maybe two out the four, and I was super proud of that. You know what I mean? Just having some in the tuck or whatever to my fellow content people. Just having something in the tuck so you don't have to do that. You know what I mean? But for the most part, my production team doesn't care about me, and they let me do that looking crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that was nuts. They could have told you, if they had your best interest, to just sit this one out for a little bit.

[Big Mona]

Tell them that. They said please.

[Joe Button]

And then I tried to give you a day off, but that is a lie.

[Big Mona]

This thing have been running with the same lies for about an hour.

[Joe Button]

I'm glad you're here.

[Parks]

Last week.

[Big Mona]

It's a. God Parks. Now, you see, that's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's.

[Big Mona]

That I be talking about. No, I didn't come in last week, but that wasn't giving a day off. I told y' all I wasn't coming in because I looked. Y' all think I look beat up at my podcast. I look rough on Friday because I have a black eye. My eyes. Black eye makeup on there, bruises all over. Like it was a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. Sucks.

[Ice]

I didn't know what happened last week, Joe, you didn't tell. I. I wasn't sure she wasn't fired, but I didn't want to start nothing.

[Big Mona]

It is so sick about the firing thing because, like, I don't know.

[Joe Button]

They online counting her months.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like, she has been here about six months.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what y' all normally do, but I feel like even regardless of what, when my contract was up, I think people would say I got fired anyway.

[Joe Button]

Well, yeah, because people leave unceremoniously from here years.

[Big Mona]

Oh, is that the thing?

[Joe Button]

That's that. Yeah. So they just put it on me no matter what.

[Big Mona]

Listen, when I leave, I'mma talk about it.

[Joe Button]

Listen, there's no music out.

[Parks]

I mean, there is, but.

[Ice]

There is.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. Y' all didn't hear that?

[Big Mona]

New little Russell and Lil John.

[Joe Button]

I didn't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I didn't hear it.

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear it.

[Parks]

I breezed through it.

[Big Mona]

I listen to. I listen to wiggle it. Because I already, like, wiggle it wiggly. And I'm like, how could he have made wiggly better? Guess how it works.

[Parks]

He didn't.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, it's wiggly with that.

[Parks]

I breezed through it.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

As I did with a lot of the music that came out today.

[Ice]

Everything I heard, it's the Russell.

[Joe Button]

It was a week this week, Mona. We pushing the Russell's album back to hour four.

[Big Mona]

Oh, my bad.

[Joe Button]

We don't open with.

[Big Mona]

It's Monday. Go right with LaRussell.

[Joe Button]

I.

[Parks]

With Russell.

[Big Mona]

Boosie and his kids dropped.

[Amani]

Yeah, he did.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. All right, all right, all right. I told Mona that I would not press this button today. Cause she. You know what I mean, Just got back. But let her live a little bit.

[Amani]

I'm trying.

[Joe Button]

I'm giving a leeway.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's wrong with that?

[Amani]

I just did my boozy album.

[Big Mona]

Oh, oh, wait a minute, brother. That's the thing. There's no rhythm of reason to this shit. You just got to feel.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

When you could do shit what you

[Big Mona]

could do in hour one, you might can't do hour two, and you damn sure better not try at hour four.

[Joe Button]

Boosie is another hour three. Three guy up here. Maybe four. Yeah, maybe four. Sometimes you can feel it.

[Amani]

You feel it. Got you.

[Big Mona]

Keep up.

[Ice]

Well, one album that I listened to against my better judgment. I didn't want to, but I was like. It seemed like we had to. Was Gnarles Barkley.

[Parks]

I don't think that we had to, but I also listened to it.

[Big Mona]

I didn't even know that. I didn't see that.

[Joe Button]

I breezed through it. I breezed through it.

[Parks]

It was highly disappointing. As a CeeLo fan, even though I know he's problematic. And as a Danger Mouse fan and as a Gnarls Barkley fan, man, I liked one. I liked one song.

[Ice]

Yeah, I say one or two joint. It's like 18 songs.

[Amani]

Damn.

[Parks]

I think it's 13. 13.

[Ice]

13, 13, right. And they. And they. They held this as the final album. So when you say, like, this is our last Album that makes me feel like you swinging for the fences and

[Mark Lamar Hill]

it felt more like I don't feel. I don't today when somebody tell me this the last album, I think y' all wouldn't have put some shit together and we, we. We had to go get one real quick.

[Ice]

Yes, that's fair. That's what it really means.

[Joe Button]

Means.

[Ice]

But from an artist who I respect them as artists and they've. They've made good music separately together. I was like, okay, you probably like. When Tribe said this is our last album, I was like excited. I know they not Tribe. I'm just saying, like when I respect you and you say this is my last album, I raised my bar running the gold list. And this wasn't even a good four. Not my last album.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ice]

This was like a. You should have left this in the studio.

[Amani]

Yeah, that's on my to do list.

[Parks]

Don't leave it in the studio. Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

What ns.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Cross it up off.

[Parks]

Yeah. You don't have to go for a walk. You could, but you don't have to.

[Ice]

Yeah. It won't make you happy.

[Joe Button]

Give it a breeze. Give it a. Give it a quick breeze through. Yeah, it's trash on the breeze through too. You don't need. You don't need to listen to it in full to know. I do appreciate that from the. That make trash. Like if I could hit the sample and know it's trash. Thank you. Thank you. Sometimes they trick you.

[Ice]

Save me some time.

[Joe Button]

Sometimes they trick you. All right, so NS Barkley Trash.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What I listened to, which wasn't trash, was ty dolla sign's EP put EP out called Girl Music.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And it's quick.

[Joe Button]

Six.

[Parks]

Six.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. Six songs, 17 minutes feature Ron Isley, Brandi Leon Thomas.

[Joe Button]

And

[Mark Lamar Hill]

this is good. So I didn't hear none of the trash. I was very happy about this one. I'm looking Forward to the TY$sign album.

[Joe Button]

Album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't know what happened. He was supposed to been coming out with an album a couple months ago.

[Amani]

Yeah, let's get to it.

[Joe Button]

This is track one off Todd Dollar Sign. Nobody has to know with Ron O isley quick joint. Six song, 17 minutes. It's not bad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I like this.

[Joe Button]

Girl nobody has to know girl nobody has to know

[Big Mona]

how he get down when it can't you like I do got you.

[Parks]

That's why I stopped.

[Joe Button]

You get the point?

[Parks]

That's when I stopped.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, just drop.

[Joe Button]

You said that's where you stopped.

[Parks]

That's where I stopped.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Parks]

Cuz that R. Kelly oh, no, that wasn't what lie. It was just like, damn. Like, you can't. Like I'm cool. I do. Maybe it was just a timing thing. I. I love T D, but this felt.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Lazy.

[Ice]

Lazy.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Mona]

Everybody's doing rley samples, cuz. What's it going to drop this week with Ryan Isley sample too, right? Vzo.

[Amani]

I swear, V. Yeah, he put out a little EP as well. It's pretty good. It's like for women. Very women centric.

[Joe Button]

This track, 2, 3 billion.

[Amani]

I think that's what Timberland.

[Ice]

I know you don't share something.

[Joe Button]

Listen, six songs. Not bad. I love the Brandy joint. I love the Leon Thomas joint.

[Parks]

I do want to hear the Leon.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I like all of these joints.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. The Leon joint is the Aaron hall flip. Okay. Yeah. I think this was the first joint that they released from this year.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is Came out.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I played though, cuz still hard.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yep.

[Ice]

All of her promise you never leave me.

[Big Mona]

I'mma give you just what you deserve.

[Ice]

She want to

[Joe Button]

be throw. Leon went crazy on this. I'm sure. All right, I'm sorry, tar.

[Big Mona]

I miss you.

[Joe Button]

I got to get to Leon real quick.

[Ice]

Please,

[Big Mona]

Girl, don't get me started. Face card on a platinum MX car.

[Joe Button]

Run up them charges.

[Big Mona]

I got a hearty sp.

[Joe Button]

Listen, man, Listen, man. Leon Thomas is on Leon Thomas when

[Parks]

it had the best drop of the week. And it ain't this one, though, yo.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Leon Thomas became what we what Tyler Dollar Sign used to be like. You know how if you saw a featuring Ty Dollar Sign, he was like, yo, all right, whoever this is. Yeah, let me hear what Todd did on this.

[Amani]

For sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's where Leon at now.

[Parks]

Not bad at that tank as soon

[Mark Lamar Hill]

as you see it, yo. All right, let me go. I gotta see what Leon Thomas did on this record, and he don't miss.

[Joe Button]

I think saying that is disrespectful to Leon Thomas.

[Amani]

Yeah, I never had that urgency to say, yo, Todd Dollar Signs on this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, no, y' all bugging.

[Parks]

You're tripping.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Y' all are absolutely free.

[Parks]

TC is an absolute classic to me, and he has not gotten back to that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Todd Dollar Sign as a feature artist was a thing.

[Amani]

Nah, it wasn't.

[Joe Button]

There was an urgency because.

[Amani]

Yes, you must have live in two Americas.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I'm in the real one.

[Big Mona]

Nah, I missed that wave, too.

[Joe Button]

Let him fight. No, no, I didn't plan it. Don't. Don't look at me like I did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, no, no, no. There's no fight.

[Amani]

Nah, I don't think it happened.

[Ice]

You just see music totally differently.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that's it.

[Parks]

I love Ty Dallas. It's been a long time since I rushed to a Ty Dolla sign feature. But there was a point in time where he was.

[Joe Button]

He was the man popular.

[Amani]

But there was a moment where you were like, yo, this, this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There was a moment where if you saw Ty Dolla sign featured on a song, it was, oh, you know what Ty does.

[Joe Button]

What era is this you talking about? I agree with you, but what era is this?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is.

[Joe Button]

Are you talking about J? It.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That might have been towards the end of it. 2017.

[Joe Button]

I thought.

[Parks]

Not early 16.

[Joe Button]

I thought 2016.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Somewhere in there somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Are you talking about the light? Let's have sex play? Yeah, somewhere around there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There was a run, bro.

[Joe Button]

I'm ch. I'm challenging parks's point. Free TC is. Is a great project. My favorite TY$, project. And. And it's the closest he's come to fulfilling his potential.

[Parks]

To me, I would say that.

[Joe Button]

I think to talk about Free TC in the same class as Mutt.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, no, I wasn't doing that. I didn't say that.

[Joe Button]

But that's the only reason I say

[Parks]

I think they're comparable to me.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nah, nah, hell no. I'm not with that. Free TC is amazing.

[Amani]

AM and PM man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, it's hard to compare.

[Joe Button]

And I don't think it really matters because Leon Thomas is signed to Ty Dollar Sign.

[Ice]

Right.

[Joe Button]

And let me just tell you, if I have a label, if I'm an artist and I sign an artist that start getting that type of blue flame on them, I'm going into session and stealing some songs. Like if I'm Fat Joe. Still not a player. Might be my record in 90.

[Parks]

Like 98.

[Joe Button]

Seriously, I'm taking it.

[Ice]

98.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm on it at least. See, I don't take it. I'm at least on it.

[Joe Button]

If I'm Todd Dollar, I'm on it.

[Big Mona]

Mutt.

[Joe Button]

What a Mutt remix I'm. I'm stealing from.

[Parks]

I kind of disagree with y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, cuz.

[Parks]

You go do all the press and shows and performances and all that with this. I'm gonna get my cut anyway. You have a blast.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's why I prefaced it with if I'm an artist. Cuz they're artists.

[Parks]

Yeah, well, work for Puff.

[Joe Button]

If they're not artists, then. Then yeah, go. Go do all the promo. I'll be in the back somewhere getting a check. But these guys are artists already. I think Ty$I love Ty$ like, but I think he could use one of these Leon leftovers.

[Parks]

See, I feel like he should be giving shit to Leon. Really. I feel like he should be writing and producing and be like, yo, this one, you go ahead, you run around.

[Amani]

I think this might be a case where the student might be better than the teacher.

[Joe Button]

Oh, we kill you, B Dot United. Todd Dollazar fan.

[Amani]

I love him. Him, Wiz, Kleefoot or. Nah, that was a great moment. We like Todd Dollar Sign.

[Joe Button]

He's great, but I love Todd.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ty had a nice little.

[Joe Button]

He had a. I'm not, I'm not.

[Ice]

He had a great run.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mitigating his beach house.

[Amani]

I'm not mitigating anything Todd Dollar Sign has done. But I can't aggrandize him to the position that Ty.

[Joe Button]

That Leon Thomas is in. Oh, that, that ice. That Ice is doing. Yeah.

[Parks]

I think you need to go back and listen to Free TC again. That album was great.

[Amani]

I might have to make it, give it a review.

[Joe Button]

Visit you wasn't in the club when Mustard and Ty Dolla Sign came out.

[Amani]

I'm not disputing that. Yes, Ty Dolla Sign had a run. He was everywhere. But I think, you know, to elevate him to the status that you guys are saying, I. I can't give him that.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Controversial beat up take. Okay.

[Amani]

Spicy, spicy.

[Parks]

I think Leon Thomas had the better. The best drop today though.

[Joe Button]

That 50 snippet from a show.

[Ice]

Power. Power.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Power.

[Parks]

That is amazing.

[Ice]

What's it called?

[Joe Button]

Power.

[Ice]

It's like the, like, it's like listen.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, it's another song.

[Parks]

50 gonna kill. A theme song boy.

[Ice]

Yeah. And a documentary, apparently.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

This was part seven. Was it like of the 50 cent ti beef? Now he responded on Instagram saying he's willing to write a. He said, I'm gonna respond. He said, remember how quiet I get before I go after people, basically. And then he threatened a 50. I mean a ti and tiny document documentary.

[Big Mona]

No.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah. And he mentioned sexual assault allegations. He made a whole thing and he deleted it. If I remember correctly, he instagrammed and deleted.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think people to stop pointing that like, because a lot of people say, oh, well, he deleted. As if. He takes it back 50 deletes everything.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, it's not a take. But he posts a lot. He lets the blogs grab it, lets it garner the attention. It lives over there. And then he removes it off his page. It's not him walking anything back.

[Ice]

It's part of his mystique.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And he does this with everything. Okay.

[Ice]

No, I was gonna say TI responds just to pull up TI's response, because a lot of people thought that that would actually

[Joe Button]

push.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Did it, like, almost like I'm a scare you into not into not saying. The TI basically was like, we're not afraid of a documentary. We can go doc for doc. I'll make one about you too. He called him a fuck nigga and then said, let's go, and then tweeted a link to his music. So this feels like the thing that I was afraid of.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's going outside of music.

[Ice]

Yeah. Like, now we're gonna make doc for. We gonna go doc for doc.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's cool.

[Parks]

I like a doc, though.

[Ice]

I like a good doc.

[Joe Button]

I like docs more than music right

[Ice]

now, but not like this.

[Joe Button]

Those are the best docs.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I don't revenge docs, though. I hate y'. All.

[Joe Button]

That puff doc was out of here.

[Ice]

It was great.

[Big Mona]

I almost hate that, how good that documentary is. If you think about the reasons behind it. Like, I think that's corny. I think it's corn. Corny. To make the ti Tiny dot about sexual assault allegations because of this. I think that's corny. I think. I just think it's whack. I don't care. Can.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Can the ends justify the means? Like, let's just say the accusations are true. I'm allegedly. Let's just say that they're true.

[Joe Button]

I don't even know the accusations there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's some accusations. But let's. But let's say that they are true. And justice for the victim. Getting that story out. Would that justify the corny that it took to get this route?

[Joe Button]

Niggas gotta stop using victims for their revenge.

[Big Mona]

That's the thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I'm just saying somebody really did.

[Joe Button]

And if you're gonna do that, then I just don't want to hear the justice for the victim.

[Big Mona]

We had the same conversation, and what. What Mark said to me was, well, none of those documentaries, all of them are trying to get money when you think about it that way. Which is true.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Absolutely.

[Big Mona]

And I was kind of, like, stopped there, but I. I don't give a fuck. It's corny. I think it's corny. And I. I hate.

[Ice]

I agree with you.

[Big Mona]

I hate the fact that people try to pretend like victims have anything to do. Nobody gives a fuck about the victim. That's not in these situations. That has nothing to do with the victim.

[Ice]

Infinity. Don't pretend it does.

[Big Mona]

Come on, bro.

[Ice]

He's just like, I got your ass.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now I got some shit on you.

[Big Mona]

But he'll say it. He'll use the words the victims and shit like that. He'll use that verbiage. So it's still no. That shit's ass. And the fact that people want me to believe that a person that's doing stuff like that is a happy, happy, like, person. Healthy, sane person is like, okay, not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not necessarily. I'm not saying justice for victory. My point is, if someone is out here committing these acts, then, yes, I

[Joe Button]

want to see the job.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

I want to see the doc.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Even if it's just corny that. That. That it took to get to the dock. If someone is really doing these things,

[Joe Button]

I want to see a good job

[Mark Lamar Hill]

that should be put out. And I'm not talking about T. I'm just saying anything. If you out here doing this shit, like the puff shit. So what? It came from corny shit. He was doing some of this shit.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, that's right, Ice. It's the right thing.

[Ice]

I think both of what y' all saying are true. I think regardless of the reason for doing it, if it gives justice to victims, great. That doesn't mean it's not corny.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Big Mona]

Right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It still could. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I wanna know two things could be true.

[Big Mona]

Allegedly. What happened? It was almost like a thing where. And you correct me if I'm saying it wrong, because it's old, but it was like that they would have nights where they would bring women back in their bed, and then it was stories of, like, being drugged or giving ecstasy or being taken advantage of. So instead of it being just a normal, me and my wife together, that they're, you know, being forced into it. And I remember one of the girls that got real popular behind it, like, she was, like, shut down. Like, everything she said was not. And I don't even want to go into that too much, because that would be in my dm.

[Joe Button]

I love when podcasters do that. Please go into it. And then don't they give all the old tea? No, because nobody's talking.

[Big Mona]

The reason why I'm saying I don't want to go into it is because she was championing her own. And the type of person she is, that will be in my DM in 10 minutes after this drop. And it's like, I don't remember word for her. What happened to you, sister? I'm sorry that happened to you. Okay? Allegedly, if it happened or it didn't happen, they dogged. They, they, they. Everybody dog piled her. But that's what people do to victims. So that's not like that's. It doesn't negate the fact whether it was true or not. But Ti and Tiny won. Whatever lawsuit, whatever. Whatever they won. So according to, you know, the law or whatever, they're innocent. You know, as of then, that's where everybody kind of left it, like it wasn't true. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Do you guys mind if I hear the Leon Thomas song?

[Parks]

Yeah, there we go.

[Joe Button]

There we go. You're back. Here we go. No one told us what we.

[Big Mona]

Lord, don't you let us get it

[Amani]

wrong

[Joe Button]

Poverty is all we know so

[Big Mona]

hustling is all we know Forgive his

[Joe Button]

boss his love God damn, I'm a

[Ice]

magician I put that pain in the pot Ice cubes, watch it lock now look at what we got. I turn a brick to a drop to a spot to a knot your sister into a dot bus to a plot little bread to a lot Slap box to the Glock turn a stab wound to a shot Unknown Magic boot magic get the Gucci bitch get the

[Joe Button]

Uchi Niggas get paid,

[Parks]

this shit's fire.

[Joe Button]

Nah, Parks just put a little battery in my back. Low key Parks just put a little New York battery in my bag. I was ready to let this topic just flow by smoothly, but I don't know. Now hold up for a second.

[Ice]

He can do what he want.

[Joe Button]

Now hold up, hold up.

[Amani]

Mike's too hard for me.

[Joe Button]

This is for a show.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. This is power.

[Joe Button]

So my question to y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

I don't care watching it. I don't give a fuck about that. My question to y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

Cause somebody up here said 50 can't probably even make a diss track. I might have said that. My bad, my bad.

[Ice]

I might have said that, too.

[Joe Button]

And I said that I would never bet against somebody like 50 when it comes to a diss track. And I don't know if this is a diss track. However, wait, if it were to be.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Y' all said 50 can't make a diss track.

[Parks]

No, I said, I don't know if 50 can. Still. He has a rap since.

[Ice]

Yeah, we were just saying. So he was in shape, like, in rap shape.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Ice]

Battling TI Got it.

[Big Mona]

Why doesn't he. When you hear this, the first thing you think is, why the fuck can't you just make a song towards TI that's what I.

[Joe Button]

Well, when I hear this, I'm asking in the event that this Were the

[Parks]

a diss track, it would be hard.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the way you do it.

[Joe Button]

That would end all of that shit that TI Is talking about. Very fast. Very fast.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If I was putting the diss track out, that's the way I'm gonna do it, though.

[Joe Button]

Quickly show like. If he starts saying some slick shit on this and one of these singing niggas come in grooming. Can you start this over towards.

[Parks]

You want me to start from the top, top?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. No, I want to hear Leon Thomas again.

[Ice]

His tone is just crazy.

[Joe Button]

Damani got to grab his pen if this is coming out.

[Ice]

He came for Leon. No one told us what we here for. I'm a magician. I put that pain in the po ice cubes. Watch it lock. Now look at what we got. I turn a brick to a drop a fe strip to a spot your sister to a dot the little BR to a lot Slap box to the clock turn a stab wound to a shot unknown mags bag magic boom magic get the douche, get the oo me I'm back with my dope boy Grandma, your daddy made your mama eat every box of the way.

[Joe Button]

5 Previously on Power. That's for a TV show. Yeah, bro.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Have you heard the other theme songs?

[Ice]

I know you don't watch.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm just saying these shits is heat.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The other ones are heat.

[Joe Button]

I like the Canaan theme song.

[Ice]

They all crazy, actually.

[Joe Button]

So why can't y' all stop playing with 50? When it come to some of these district, we. It was a little crazy up here.

[Ice]

It may be.

[Joe Button]

I know we were in the midst of the TI barrage, so we were in the moment.

[Ice]

I still take TI in that. In that battle, if it happened.

[Joe Button]

Well, because I don't think 50 got the time to go do do this five times. Right. But in the event that he did. That sounds nuts.

[Parks]

That's fire.

[Ice]

That was amazing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's my favorite drop this week. It's a minute and a half long. I it.

[Joe Button]

Nah, that was crazy.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

If I'm Todd Dollar, I'm doing a whole best of both worlds project with Leon. Tommy. I'm doing like. Like when Em and Royce put that. I'm doing. We doing albums.

[Parks]

I'm getting out the way you run. You got it.

[Joe Button]

Artists. Artists are not as selfless. He's an exact too. Yeah, but he's an artist, too.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Button]

He's an artist exec.

[Parks]

I'll be just doing my own little what I love doing fun and let the young bull go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You make a Point. I wouldn't do that. You got a good point.

[Parks]

You don't want to pop up.

[Joe Button]

I would be all up in the video.

[Parks]

I might do that, though. I might do that.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. Are you walking on stage when they win? Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Okay. There you go. All right. I'm just checking. Come on. Some more people put out trash. Come on. We trying to. Y Y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

Y' all trying to big up. Y' all trying to big up the drops that we enjoy. Enjoy. But it was a trash day.

[Parks]

It was a bad.

[Joe Button]

It was garbage.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What else?

[Big Mona]

Dropped.

[Amani]

There's a lot of.

[Joe Button]

This one. This one's gonna hurt. Yeah.

[Amani]

Dropped.

[Parks]

I didn't like it either, man. I really wanted. I love Yabba. It was too.

[Joe Button]

She's one of my favorites. I absolutely love her down. She's super talented. This just was too.

[Parks]

It was too white. Poppy, which Corey said, vanilla is a better word to use.

[Joe Button]

And I'm like, okay, Yeah.

[Parks]

I think I could say it's too white.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Parks]

But yeah, two Vanilla for me.

[Joe Button]

I felt that way too. Yeah.

[Parks]

It's not bad music. Like, she's too good of a musician and singer.

[Joe Button]

She was just going for something different.

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Just to go around.

[Parks]

It wasn't the blue eyed soul. It was a little bit more poppy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. It wasn't melancholy. Yeah. But who I love same. But I'll still be there for the next year. Release. Yeah. But if you listening and I love you and congrats on dropping a new project. This one One wasn't for me, but she probably knew that already.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Jeremiah put some trash out.

[Parks]

I saw it there, and I didn't hit play.

[Joe Button]

Noma.

[Ice]

Smart choice.

[Joe Button]

Not on my album. It sound old, but it was in

[Mark Lamar Hill]

my new releases on streaming because.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I had this.

[Joe Button]

Well, he could undrop that. Damn. He could. He could mail that to himself. That was a bunch of hot garbage. Hot, hot garbage, too. He's too talented to even want people to hear that. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Noma came out in 2014. It's a mixtape.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay. That makes a lot of sense.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

All right. It might not have been trash in 2014.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's why I was like. When I saw it, I'm like, wait,

[Joe Button]

even that album cover was trash.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not on my album.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

45. I'm looking at your album covers and your album artwork too. I'm sorry. Well, I did that my whole life, but even more so now I feel like some more trash came out. Damn.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What else?

[Amani]

There was some decent music, though. Denzel Curry Put out a compilation revelation. Are you up on Denzel Curry?

[Parks]

I love Denzel Curry. Yeah, this was too. Not for me.

[Amani]

Was it for you? It was like festival rap.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think it's gonna work.

[Parks]

A lot of distorted vocals, a lot of.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I mean, a lot of, like.

[Amani]

It's a lot of Fergus on there.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Ferg.

[Parks]

Juicy J's on there. A bunch of artists, too.

[Amani]

It's only eight tracks, but I enjoyed what I heard.

[Joe Button]

Okay, tracks.

[Amani]

I'll give it a spin. Yeah, it's gonna work out like Coachella. One of those kind of rolling, loud setting. So.

[Parks]

Yeah, I could see.

[Joe Button]

Is he one of those acts?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Amani]

Yeah, he's one.

[Joe Button]

Definitely one of them.

[Parks]

He's super fire. He can rap his. I just when it's like too much alternative sounding, I.

[Joe Button]

It.

[Parks]

It. It's not for me.

[Joe Button]

Are any of you guys going in Coachella? Are there any Coachella people in the room?

[Parks]

I love festivals, but I will not be going to Coachella.

[Joe Button]

Roots Picnic, maybe.

[Ice]

Roots Picnic. I'll be there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Dreamville, maybe.

[Amani]

I think it's over this.

[Joe Button]

This year.

[Parks]

Oh, I thought they were rebranding it

[Amani]

or something, but Cole's going on tour, man.

[Parks]

Got it.

[Amani]

So I don't think that's going to happen.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Or his date. Or his date for that area be Dreamville.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you know, they didn't announce that.

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Button]

What? What? Beat out just said.

[Amani]

No, that's.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's how they did not talk about the tour.

[Joe Button]

Dreamville. Yeah, they did not announce that.

[Amani]

Not what? That was the last one last year.

[Parks]

They did the final look that year.

[Amani]

No, that's public knowledge.

[Joe Button]

But they announced the Dreamville.

[Amani]

No, they announced Dreamville Fest is done.

[Parks]

Yeah, they did.

[Joe Button]

No, that was last year.

[Amani]

Yeah, that was the final one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It says something about rebranding or something.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they put something out.

[Amani]

It was Put feelers out there, but I don't know if it's going to come to pass.

[Joe Button]

All right, I'm not going no festival. No way. I'm not going. I don't like people.

[Ice]

He ain't going outside with people, I about to say.

[Big Mona]

I mean, but Rich sit at the festivals alone in their own little tent.

[Parks]

You might get your own tent.

[Big Mona]

I'm going to rolling out this year. I want you to go with me.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Which one?

[Big Mona]

And I'm going to have a booth.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Which one you going to a booth?

[Big Mona]

I don't know,

[Ice]

man.

[Joe Button]

You going to Black Effect Festival?

[Big Mona]

I got a little gig at the. You know what I mean? I'll be There. Just cool out.

[Ice]

I know what I'm doing.

[Big Mona]

This always try to tell you what he doing.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean?

[Big Mona]

Some slick. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

And you got you on. Yeah. You got some stuff going on.

[Ice]

Like this.

[Big Mona]

Drop a. It'll be an article. Come out. Oh, Joe button Just made $73 billion last week. Coming the next day, we grill cheeses together. I don't say nothing about it. You know what I mean? He see I'm on a little black effect.

[Ice]

He.

[Big Mona]

Oh, I see you. Okay.

[Joe Button]

I thought I was shouting some out. I'm sorry. All right, fine. We. We working. Come on, man. Oh, my God.

[Big Mona]

I got two poor in the next room.

[Joe Button]

Bd I did mean to tell you, too. You left last week and hit us with an Irish goodbye. Oh, I did a little Irish, but we. We. We let you leave, but no, he. He moves fast.

[Amani]

I thought I said bye to everybody.

[Joe Button]

You did, but you was out the door fast. And I meant to tell you that we do like a brunch. Like a brunch slash dinner on Fridays, at least. Damn. Eat with us before you go.

[Ice]

I got that to the chefs and all that.

[Amani]

I didn't know what that was about, beating Jamaica.

[Big Mona]

It was before me. We ate double mint. That's something I implemented. I was like, you want a real in here? We need a chef.

[Joe Button]

Wow.

[Ice]

Yo, that's true. Yo, she got union.

[Joe Button]

She did that. I am the union. So I'm not sure if you're rushing out of here, but, you know, I

[Amani]

mean, I didn't know that.

[Big Mona]

Slow down. Get you a little cr.

[Joe Button]

Have a bite, man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nice menu today.

[Amani]

Good to know.

[Joe Button]

All right, let's see. I know it's some more. I know it's some more trash out there.

[Amani]

Hold up something for you to.

[Joe Button]

What you got?

[Amani]

So I was. After I left, I went home and did some cleaning up, and I was. I found something I ain't see like, in over a decade. This was something you gave me. I was like, before I put this out on ebay, I was like, wonder if you remember this.

[Joe Button]

Do you remember this? That's the Joe Button hookah. It was a collector's item. Wow.

[Amani]

If you open it, you can smoke that Joe Button pack, too. I never used it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but you got you and I give me this.

[Big Mona]

It's the Joe Button hookah. And the special part of it is you don't smoke hookah stuff. You smoke wet in it.

[Joe Button]

This was a good hookah set.

[Ice]

No, but open it.

[Amani]

You got the thing in there, too. Still unused.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

The pack of shisha?

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, you never used it at all.

[Big Mona]

Ain't got the D and the shisha in there, too.

[Joe Button]

All right, Mona.

[Big Mona]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Thank you, girl.

[Parks]

I don't even think I got the Joe button either.

[Big Mona]

I didn't know it existed.

[Joe Button]

B dot.

[Amani]

Yeah, I did. I collect things.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There you go.

[Joe Button]

I was about to say this so matches what I think of. I feel like that Joe button pack.

[Amani]

The button blend.

[Joe Button]

The button blends.

[Amani]

10 years old.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Hey, Mona, what's in that button blend?

[Joe Button]

There you go. Like, I feel like Bida. I feel like you live in, like, a. Just a hip hop museum.

[Parks]

Oh, I bet he does.

[Amani]

Yeah, I like to collect things.

[Joe Button]

Man, that's crazy. Man. Ice ain't even got to expire.

[Big Mona]

Smell a little embalming. That's it. That's.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Cause I got seizure jokes for days. I got them for days. If we. If that's what we on today.

[Big Mona]

Five minutes in the scene when you caught me ugly, you started it, so whatever.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but I tried to squash it, too.

[Big Mona]

Okay, so what?

[Joe Button]

That smell good?

[Big Mona]

Now we can squash it. Now it's over.

[Joe Button]

Now that you got the last draw,

[Big Mona]

now I got the last drawing. We good?

[Joe Button]

This is fire Be. Pass this back to be, though.

[Amani]

He was giving out hookahs, and I don't know what that was from, but

[Joe Button]

that's how you know my album wasn't going to sell but 10 copies.

[Big Mona]

Did you have another one? Do you have another one of these?

[Joe Button]

No, no, I threw away all hookah remnants in my.

[Big Mona]

Are you still in contact with.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Free ads. Free ads. Free ads. They were. Hey, write that down, please. Jesus, Mary, get that out of here. All right, let me see. I know it's some more trash out there. Hold up. They. They keep interrupting me. But it's trash out there.

[Parks]

It was. It was. It was a trash.

[Joe Button]

Who?

[Big Mona]

A. What's his name?

[Joe Button]

Okay, you going to get fired.

[Ice]

What name?

[Big Mona]

I can say, and I can't say.

[Joe Button]

You can't say AEM Ali.

[Amani]

Why?

[Joe Button]

I don't like hour one.

[Big Mona]

He's not big enough.

[Joe Button]

Yes, unless he pays. Unless who's going to pay? If we just come right off the hip with Hakeem Ali and LaRussell.

[Big Mona]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

This is Paola. The is you going. We are selling these broadcasts.

[Parks]

Pharrell clapped back at Kanye's gospel run. Yeah, he dropped a gospel album with Voices of Fire, which, when it first came on, I thought it was just people singing over random Pharrell beats because I can't remember what this bass Line is from. But it's from something else. He used the same bass line or something. I can't remember what it is. Or something's very similar. Anyway, it's a whole. It's a whole gospel album with a couple choir.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay,

[Parks]

but off production, I mean,

[Joe Button]

Is Pusher coming on at some point? He is not. Is. Is malice.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Coming up.

[Joe Button]

Turn this. More trash. More trash.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Grammy. No, no, no.

[Parks]

The gospel Grammy. Yeah, you might get that to go play over there. You might be right.

[Ice]

This is ofanim.

[Parks]

That's what it is.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Trash.

[Parks]

Listen to it.

[Joe Button]

Going to the days where I'm. I'm forcing a album opinion on some of this. It's trash.

[Parks]

You're not wrong.

[Joe Button]

Let's see here. Oh, Chef G came out now. It's not that great.

[Big Mona]

I.

[Amani]

With Chef G. Yeah, I do too. But the song isn't.

[Joe Button]

He's a Republicano.

[Amani]

It's not a good record.

[Joe Button]

He's a Republican, though. We love Chef G. Joe, buddy. Hey, that was a real good impression. And a couple of R and B slaps came out. But none of it's trash. Yeah, none of it's trash. Any more trash. We miss any trash. Any old trash we missed. For real. I missed the days where you could just come to work and just call some shit trash.

[Parks]

It was a lot this week.

[Joe Button]

A lot of trash.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I ain't even listening to a lot of.

[Amani]

A lot of Lucy's by people that aren't good rappers.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Yeah. No, no, no, not today.

[Parks]

I knew it was a bad week when I seen all types of Van Halen and who on my new music singles. I was like, all right. Yeah, slow week.

[Joe Button]

Did you guys see the. The debate they're having about rappers without a classic?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Parks]

Yes, I did.

[Ice]

I've been very excited about that conversation, waiting to have it with y'.

[Amani]

All.

[Joe Button]

It is a spirited conversation at the. That they're having out there.

[Amani]

It's tricky.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So a list went around. He wrote, he said the top ten all time great MCs without classic solo album.

[Ice]

He's an idiot.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You want ten to one or one to ten?

[Parks]

Ten to one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ten to one. Number ten cannabis.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Number nine, Andre 3000.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Ice]

That's an asterisk.

[Joe Button]

No, that's wrong.

[Ice]

Well, it depends.

[Joe Button]

Unless you mean rap album albums, solo.

[Amani]

Are you saying solo?

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Parks]

Solo album is a classic.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Ice]

No, it is, but it's not incorrect. He might see, he might say solo

[Joe Button]

is a classic

[Ice]

album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's not a solo album.

[Joe Button]

Who else is on rap album? Who else is on that part.

[Parks]

That part. I agree with this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's an outcome.

[Ice]

That's what I'm saying. If he says solo rap album, I can see it. You can't drop us as a feature on it.

[Joe Button]

Lauren album. You all saying a rap album. And it got her in the rock and roll hall of fame. It got her in the music hall of fame. Okay. If you're. One album is great enough, then it don't matter the fucking genre. It succeeds all.

[Amani]

But I have a.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If we talking rap albums.

[Ice]

But if the argument is rap albums, I can see you saying Andre doesn't have a. That's not a rap album.

[Joe Button]

But if you say but that wasn't a compliment. They said rappers, which he is MCs

[Mark Lamar Hill]

without a classic album. I'm telling y'.

[Ice]

All. I assumed he meant rap.

[Joe Button]

Just.

[Ice]

There's no other way to put Andre on that list. Cause Love Below is a classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Can you buy the Love Below by itself?

[Ice]

No, but that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's not a solo album.

[Parks]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

And that's what they're saying. I'm with you on it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's what they. It's an outcast album. If you buy that.

[Joe Button]

It's a big boy.

[Ice]

It's Andre album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fam. Go buy the Love Below.

[Parks]

You put them together. It's an outcast album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You cannot buy them separately. So it's an outcast double disc. That's what that speaker box. The Love Below. You can't separate them just because we want to say we like disc two versus disc one or whatever the case may be. I'm talking about two different CDs.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you. You talking about consumerism, right?

[Ice]

When Andre got the Grammy for. For. Hey. I mean, it was Andrew. It wasn't Outcast that got it. He went up on that stage.

[Joe Button]

You talking about.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He wasn't there.

[Joe Button]

You're talking about consumerism. I'm talking about what it. The creation of making an album by yourself. And that's what he did.

[Parks]

30 plus minutes of music by one artist out of.

[Joe Button]

There's nobody else there. He went in there, he made one. How they sold it. I don't give a about it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All right, cool.

[Joe Button]

But go ahead.

[Parks]

Yeah, keep going.

[Ice]

8.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Busta rhymes. He has debatable.

[Joe Button]

I'll let you finish.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, we wanna. We wanna finish the list. Okay.

[Parks]

Bus has got a bunch of near classes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He don't have a class.

[Amani]

He doesn't have.

[Ice]

Yeah, Big Bang is great, for example. But it's not a classic. And I love that.

[Amani]

I agree with that.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I agree.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

7. Ludicrous.

[Joe Button]

I also agree.

[Parks]

Yeah, I probably agree.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, great albums. Not classic albums.

[Parks]

A lot of great singles. A lot of classic singles.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Classic singles.

[Big Mona]

No, Ludacris don't have a classic album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He don't.

[Amani]

Unanimous classic album.

[Ice]

He's got a bunch of great albums, though. Yeah, he has great hall of Fame.

[Big Mona]

He doesn't have a classic.

[Ice]

He's got at least three albums that I think are writing that mix.

[Big Mona]

I know what classic is.

[Ice]

Right.

[Amani]

Well, all classics aren't created equal, though.

[Joe Button]

Not according to Jermaine Dupree, who came up here and said, a classic is a classic, and if it ain't, it ain't.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think.

[Joe Button]

And he used that. What he used for an example. We were talking about Carl Thomas, emotional. And he said, is that in the same ballpark as Confessions? And the whole room said, no. And he said, well, it ain't a classic.

[Parks]

I think there's a cult classic and a classic, though.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Cult classic. I think there's personal classics.

[Joe Button]

Nah, I agree. Nah, that's your favorite.

[Ice]

Yeah. I don't think that's fair. It's just like. Just like in sports, there's hall of Famers, Right. Everybody's not the same level. Even the hall of Fame Max players. Everybody's not the same. Like, there's always gonna be a best among the best. So, like, I don't like. I'm okay saying Carl Thomas is a classic album and still acknowledging that it's not Fucking Confessions, not. Cause they Confessions ain't Thriller, Facts, and they all. And they all classics.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

To me, what makes a classic album.

[Amani]

Impact, influence, longevity.

[Parks]

I think it's one of the biggest musicality. Of course, not necessarily. I don't think musicality is that important.

[Amani]

You don't think so?

[Parks]

Not necessarily.

[Amani]

So why are we here? The music has to sound good. It can have a classic moment.

[Parks]

Musicality and music sounding good are two different things.

[Ice]

Yeah, I was going to say I

[Amani]

use them interchangeably, then.

[Ice]

Oh, that's.

[Parks]

They're not.

[Amani]

Okay.

[Parks]

Someone could be a very good musician and not make music that you want to hear. And there could be something that is not particularly musically profound in terms of execution. Great musicianship, but it's still a classic album.

[Amani]

You have an example that.

[Parks]

Where do you want to start?

[Amani]

In rap.

[Parks]

In rap

[Joe Button]

shit.

[Parks]

A lot of early Pharrell stuff wasn't musically that deep.

[Ice]

He Ate Me a Moon Up.

[Amani]

Well, I think those are maybe classic moments.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Amani]

But might necessarily be classic albums.

[Parks]

I think Clip's first album is a classic album.

[Amani]

Think I do. So I believe so as well.

[Parks]

I think a lot of stuff that Swiss did is not musically profound at all.

[Amani]

You said something about Swiss last week, and I, I. It rubbed me the wrong way. Really grinded my gears. Cuz like, Swiss's music you can still play to this day and it still sounds good.

[Parks]

Yeah, but it's not music. The musicality isn't great.

[Joe Button]

Would be poor.

[Amani]

Yeah, I disagree with that. You didn't like the Casio.

[Parks]

I'm not even talking about the. The sounds that he picked. The actual playing, the keyboard playing wasn't particularly great. A lot of times it was very even DMX shit. Rough Riders Anthem is as simple as

[Joe Button]

one finger, but it's a great record.

[Parks]

And that's back to my point. That's exactly my point is musicality does not necessarily infer classic, but it doesn't

[Amani]

have to be like super technical. Do you think that it has to be.

[Parks]

If you're talking about musicality, you're talking about a certain level of proficiency.

[Amani]

No, you are.

[Ice]

All right, I'm speaking. Let me do what my brother Ice would do. Let's look up musicality for a minute. Because as I understand musicality, it is about the performance. It's about talent, it's about virtuosity. Virtuosity, yeah. As opposed to it sounding good. I'm not saying that some songs could be very basic whisper song. I mean, there are things you could make that are very basic, that are amazing. But I wouldn't say that that demonstrates musicality.

[Amani]

I'm not saying he's Beethoven, but I'm just saying, like. I think it's just we playing the semantic Olympics.

[Ice]

Yeah, but I think that's why we're talking past each other. I think that's. I think that's why we talk past each other. Musicality is the sensitivity to knowledge of or innate talent for music, encompassing the ability to interpret and express music with emotional depth, technical skill, and rhythmic precision. It involves understanding, phrasing, dynamics, and tone to convey emotion or to tell a story through performance, dancing, or listening.

[Joe Button]

That does eliminate Rough Riders Anthem.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

That's not musicality, even though it sounds good.

[Parks]

My biggest thing with classic, I mean, I think the definition of classic is something that is above anything that's happening in its time period, with a component of longevity. I think is. Is the definition of classic somewhere in that ballpark. So I think those are the two most important things. Is it better than everything else? And does it last a long time?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And is it cha. Like for Me classic. It has to be, like, a game changer as well.

[Amani]

Do you believe in instant classics?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

Illmatic was an instant classic.

[Joe Button]

Get Rich was an instant classic. Yep.

[Ice]

Love supreme was an instant classic. I mean, I think you have an instant class. I think that. I know it just says the music

[Joe Button]

writer Die was an instant classic.

[Ice]

That's a great example. That was a debate, like, when we were. When I. When I was still doing music journalism. Like, it's like, are we willing to give this a 10 or 5 mic, whatever the numbers in the venue was like. Because the question was always, could we project this 10 years from now? Are we gonna still be. Will this still matter? Will we still be listening to it? That's the challenge. Not, is this better than everybody else? That's for me, like, a lot of times, the difference between something getting four and a half and five was always. Or nine and a half and ten was always like, will this matter in a day? Yeah. And it's hard to know that. And so to me, an instant classic. I think we give that out too fast. But when I heard Blueprint, I knew it was a classic. When I heard, like you said, Ready to Die, Illmatic, I knew these were classic.

[Parks]

Good Kid, Mad City.

[Ice]

Good Kid is a perfect example. I mean, that, to me, was like, an obvious one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get rich, like TM101, I say, oh, that's another one.

[Ice]

But all of those are on the same level.

[Amani]

That's what I'm saying. They're not created equal.

[Big Mona]

Like.

[Amani]

Like, Good Kid, Mad City isn't Illmatic, But.

[Joe Button]

But they all belong in that park.

[Ice]

They have to say, party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

The levels, once you get to the party, I don't care about. But everybody has to be able to get in this party. Where are we at on the list?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We were at Ludacris. That was seven.

[Ice]

Word of mouth is updated, but go ahead.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Number six. Inspect the deck.

[Parks]

For sure. Love that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Five is Black thought.

[Amani]

I agree.

[Parks]

Yeah. Solo. Yeah, for sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Four is fabulous.

[Ice]

I hate it.

[Joe Button]

And those are probably the two best rappers in the world without a classic ad. Pharaoh Monch.

[Parks]

Well, if it hadn't got yanked off shelves, I think it would be.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Parks]

Different.

[Joe Button]

I agree with that.

[Ice]

And here's. Here's just one asterisk on black thought is that particularly after Malik and Dice are around roots albums, I mean, he's the only one rapping fair.

[Parks]

But by that point, to me, I don't know if any of those roots albums were quite in the same category.

[Ice]

Would you say,

[Parks]

like, phrenology and all that stuff.

[Ice]

The one right before Phrenology. The one. The one that had Erica Bott doing it.

[Parks]

Things fall apart.

[Ice]

Things fall apart.

[Parks]

Malik was still out of that.

[Ice]

That's true. He was. And then by. And then you're right. And phrenology is not a classic. So even though it's great, the park's

[Joe Button]

smoking shit this episode. Y' all gonna keep challenging him.

[Ice]

I'm not challenging. I'm thinking it through.

[Joe Button]

Y' all ain't on.

[Big Mona]

Learn.

[Joe Button]

Back him down.

[Ice]

I don't care. I was just think about what a classic was. Yeah. No, he's right.

[Joe Button]

No, we are. He got me.

[Ice]

Like, if he right, he right. What the we going to do?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, come on, keep going.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like I said, four is fabulous. No argument from me.

[Parks]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ice]

I'm with you on agreed 100%.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

3J to kiss.

[Joe Button]

I'm with you.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No argument from me.

[Amani]

Yeah, I. I agree.

[Parks]

I agree. I love Kiss, but I don't think Jada.

[Amani]

Kiss.

[Parks]

Very good albums.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Very good album.

[Amani]

Yeah, he's the Allen Iverson of rap. Like, he's checked all the boxes. Just don't got that championship ring.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Two Method Man. No argument for me.

[Parks]

No argument. First album was dope. The second album was dope.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's where it stopped for me.

[Parks]

Still, neither of them were quite classic. Classic.

[Ice]

So no one's classic about the cow, but classic.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Amani]

Blackout was good. Does that count? Well, that's so. No.

[Ice]

No cow, though, man. Y' all just. We just.

[Amani]

The cow's a good classic moment, I think, too. Like, coming off the Mary record.

[Parks]

And Mary record isn't even on the album.

[Ice]

It's not. Yeah.

[Amani]

Wait, that came before. Because Mary, that came out 95.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, it's on.

[Parks]

I mean, no, it's a different version.

[Ice]

Yeah, different version.

[Parks]

The remix came out afterwards.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And then one is Grand Pooba.

[Amani]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Brand new, man.

[Parks]

That first Grand Po album was really good.

[Ice]

But also. Is Grand Pooper really a better rapper than the other nine people we just said?

[Joe Button]

Don't be stupid, Mark.

[Ice]

Yeah. Just said that. Grand Poop. Wait, you think Grand Poop is better than Black Thought? That's your argument?

[Joe Button]

No, but you said nine other people grand.

[Ice]

It was a top 10 list. I'm saying he's not better than all nine.

[Joe Button]

He's better than a lot of people on that list.

[Ice]

Yes, but he's not better than all nine of them, is what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think it was ranking.

[Joe Button]

It wasn't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't think it was ranked.

[Ice]

Yeah, no, he went 10 to 1. I thought he was saying Grand Cooper is the greatest rapper of all time without a soul.

[Joe Button]

Hell, that's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

I was like, come on.

[Parks]

Is a very good, very good rapper. I love style icon, man. Grand Poopa does not get enough respect.

[Ice]

I'm not taking nothing away from Grand. He's one of my favorites. I was just saying he's not better than Andre and Black thought, that's all. This ain't fam.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Andre's not going to be number nine on this list.

[Ice]

Well, that's why. That's why I said at the beginning,

[Joe Button]

I can't do idiot anybody that. That list is missing.

[Amani]

Tretch.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Not bad by nature. Not mad at that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, it should be. Solo album.

[Joe Button]

Not trying to have my jersey card revoked, but the whole story.

[Parks]

But he just also didn't put out very much solo music.

[Ice]

So is everybody up here of the opinion. I'm asking, just asking, is everybody up here of the opinion that Drake has a classic album?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes, I think Drake has a couple.

[Parks]

K has a couple.

[Joe Button]

I think. I think they have more than one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He got a couple.

[Amani]

And if you count mixtapes so far going.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Who moaning?

[Ice]

What's up?

[Big Mona]

I didn't say anything, fellas. Keep going.

[Joe Button]

I thought somebody was moaning on the Drake classic talk. That one used to stir up. It did. The Drake classic talk.

[Ice]

Well, that's why I asked it.

[Joe Button]

No, we moved past that as a culture and a society.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What are the classics?

[Joe Button]

I would hope so.

[Parks]

Albums of his.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

To me. Take Care. If you're reading this, it's too late. It's a classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's take care of views for me.

[Parks]

I don't love views that same way. It's a very good album, but I wouldn't put it quite there.

[Ice]

I think Take Care is the one. I think that's the only one.

[Amani]

That's the one.

[Ice]

That's the only one.

[Parks]

I think it's pretty impossible to debate that.

[Ice]

Yeah, I think that's the only one.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, you don't count. So far I got take. I think it's so far going and

[Mark Lamar Hill]

what you're saying so far gone is

[Parks]

nothing I say was incredible too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's probably the same as a classic album to me too.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Amani]

Yeah, that was a good one too.

[Ice]

Yeah. Go look.

[Amani]

Read it.

[Joe Button]

Go.

[Ice]

I think he's. I think he's got a lot of nine out of 10. I think he's got A lot of amazing albums. But for me, again, the classic question. And Drake makes so much good music. It's a. It's a different bar. Maybe. Maybe I'm being unfair, but yeah, for me, Take Care is like an under disputed classic. And everything else is like right under that.

[Joe Button]

Let me ask y'. All. To y', all, there's a classic on a classic. Can you have Skips?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Amani]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Parks]

For sure.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Amani]

Thriller has a skip every. I don't believe in Thriller. The joint with Paul McCartney.

[Joe Button]

It's not a.

[Ice]

Come on. It doesn't fit as much, but it's not a skip. The Girl Is Mine is not a skip.

[Amani]

Girl is Mine is not a great.

[Joe Button]

Ain't that the last song on the album?

[Parks]

Yes, his first song. Album is a classic dmx.

[Amani]

Dmx for sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

Undoubted. Instant. Instant classic.

[Parks]

Instant. Yeah. Facts.

[Joe Button]

I. You were saying?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to think.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Yes. I think you can have Skips on for sure.

[Ice]

I don't think Class After Death has Skips on it. And I think that's a classic.

[Parks]

I don't think classic is perfect.

[Amani]

Yeah. I don't believe it was flawless.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I think.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think there are some flawless albums, though, that are classics.

[Ice]

Really.

[Amani]

I think every album has a scale skip on there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wait, I just had this conversation with J1. I don't.

[Ice]

What's the Skip? Oilmatic.

[Amani]

One time for your mind. You think that's a great song.

[Ice]

I just can't really. I'm stunned.

[Amani]

Like, I could live without that song. It's not a bad record, but it's not.

[Ice]

It's not like Skip. See, maybe we just.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at that tape.

[Ice]

You think it's a bad record?

[Parks]

It's not a horrible mouth.

[Joe Button]

I didn't say that.

[Ice]

He said Skip.

[Joe Button]

It's a skip. I'm not mad. If somebody were to. To skip that song. Bad record.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Skip don't mean bad record, though. No, that's two different things.

[Ice]

What does it mean? What does this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What makes it skip is just. I don't need this.

[Ice]

I don't need to hear it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I can. I can still enjoy this project without that. Don't make it bad.

[Amani]

Back to the Paul McCartney record. Michael Jackson.

[Ice]

I think the Paul McCartney fits that one. But I think there are albums that don't have any.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm with you.

[Ice]

Yeah, I think. Don't have even have a skip on it.

[Joe Button]

I don't think there's a skip on. Oh, y' all talking rap Never Mind.

[Ice]

Oh, if you're not. If you take rap out, there's a

[Joe Button]

lot of albums about saying Donnell Jones. Where I want to be is without a skip. There's not one on there.

[Ice]

Mary Blige. Mary Blige is maybe two albums that don't have a skip pointer for me, My Life and what's the four on one for me. And I throw the remix album in too. You know what I mean? If we talking about that jazz. I mean, to me, Love supreme obviously ain't got no skips. All four acts are great. I mean, I can think of a billion. You know, when you start getting the 13, 14 tracks, it gets tougher.

[Amani]

Yeah. I mean, even when it comes to rap, like, my favorite rapper is just Jay Z. There's moments I skip on his albums too. Nas too, you know.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't skip, though. Like, I don't skip nothing on Black Album. Not one song anymore. Oh, Change Clothes.

[Amani]

Terrible.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I used to. I used to Even going back, I grew to like. Like, I think we had this a long time ago. I wasn't really feeling threat like that. But then the more I've really listened to it. Oh, he's killing it. She's talking like it was. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Bd. There's no time you want to hear Change Clothes.

[Ice]

What?

[Amani]

It doesn't belong on that album. Like, you could literally take that off and the album's still great.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Change Clothes Gotta stay on.

[Ice]

It's a great song. That's what I mean. Like, if sometimes Skip is just about your preference.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Which is different than like a track. That's why I make equate it as bad. Cause to me, like, if it's just like, I don't like that song as much like I don't like Testify on B Comments. B. Right. I just don't like it. What? I get it. I get it. It's a great song. I just don't like to hear it all the time. That's what I'm saying. But it's not a skip. It's just not my preference. That's why I make the distinction between, like, a skip and a bad record I have.

[Big Mona]

I don't think nobody in the world has ever said that about. Wow.

[Ice]

I know. I'm like one of the people that don't. I get. I'm the minority on it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a great song if you listen

[Ice]

to you know what it is because there's a twist at the end. And once I know how it ends.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Ice]

I don't need to hear every time I get it. She did it.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I don't need to hear that 50 more times.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, true. Okay.

[Amani]

But like, you listen to Blueprint 3. I'm not playing Empire State of Mind.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not playing a lot of songs on Blueprint three.

[Ice]

You and I.

[Joe Button]

Why are we playing Blueprint three?

[Ice]

So he and I are in the minority about that. I liked Blueprint 3 a lot more than most people.

[Parks]

I liked it, but it's not in this conversation.

[Amani]

All right. Just leave it to classics. But I'm just saying, like, you skip records.

[Big Mona]

You know, Dynasty is.

[Joe Button]

You skip most of it. Word.

[Ice]

Mostly. I win.

[Joe Button]

Blueprint 3 is with the worst record I like. Right?

[Ice]

No, that was.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. You talking about with me.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Throw that whole blue injury.

[Ice]

Empire State of Mind Stars Auto Tune. Auto Tune to the next. The joint where he's killing beans and all them at the. On the opening.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's not the worst reminder you

[Ice]

got Already home on there. It's. It's some trash.

[Joe Button]

I love. Already Home is one of my favorite songs of all time already, homes. On Blueprint three. Yes. Oh, yeah. Now bloop. And three Got Heat on it. That's a good three Got Heat on it.

[Ice]

By the way, welcome to Joe. He'll clown you for like two minutes. And he. Oh, yeah, that was fire.

[Joe Button]

I'm thinking of Magna Carter.

[Ice]

Magna Carter is ass.

[Parks]

That is ass.

[Ice]

Bottom, bottom three holes.

[Parks]

That's not fair.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Bottom three holes.

[Big Mona]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I have.

[Ice]

Okay, that may be the other than Kingdom Come. That might be the worst.

[Parks]

Kingdom Come is way better.

[Ice]

Those are the two.

[Joe Button]

All right, we getting too passionate. Let's slow them down.

[Ice]

And I saw you slipping 444. That's blasphemy.

[Big Mona]

Murder is amazing album.

[Amani]

That's a great album.

[Big Mona]

That's an amazing, amazing album.

[Parks]

You had a Samsung

[Big Mona]

big whole thing. That all it. I don't care.

[Ice]

What do you like on there?

[Big Mona]

All of it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He confused.

[Amani]

I'm like, it's a good album, man.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, it's not.

[Amani]

Erased Jay Z's name from that and put Fabulous. His name on there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You would call it a class Fab. Would have never dropped that.

[Big Mona]

The first drawn just December like the first drawing. All that. I don't care what y' all say.

[Parks]

You shouldn't be putting a guy that we just said doesn't have a classic album in a Jay Z conversation.

[Amani]

I'm just saying, if you would have

[Mark Lamar Hill]

put that maybe this erase the names

[Amani]

and put somebody else on there, it

[Parks]

probably would have been a great Fab album.

[Joe Button]

No, it wouldn't.

[Amani]

I think Magna Carta is as bad as people make it out to be.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's not a great.

[Joe Button]

It also has.

[Ice]

It also has the bad Jay Z album.

[Joe Button]

Arguably the worst beat drop in the history of beat drops on Holy Grail.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Picasso baby on there. Like, come on.

[Joe Button]

That's my song. I love that song.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Up this song, and then I can

[Ice]

listen to nothing else on there until maybe on the Run with Beyonce.

[Joe Button]

No, no, I said maybe.

[Ice]

I like the opening. I like Beaches better. I actually just like that little.

[Joe Button]

On the Run is classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Beaches better is cool.

[Ice]

I like that shitty. And then I'm good.

[Joe Button]

I like Beaches better, too.

[Ice]

Then I go to. Then I turn the album off.

[Amani]

Who do you think has the most solo classics? Is it just Jay Z?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Kanye.

[Ice]

Oh, that's a good question. Most solo classics.

[Parks]

Kanye West.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Kanye.

[Amani]

I think it's Jay.

[Ice]

Well, hold on, hold on. Kanye. We say, are y' all saying three or four?

[Joe Button]

Four.

[Ice]

I'm assuming you're saying the first three. Plus plus twisted fantasy. My dark twisted fantasy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

808s.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah. 808s might be in that conversation.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

808 is in that conversation.

[Parks]

808. I realize it's cilantro. You either love it or hate it.

[Ice]

So let's say four, because those are, like, uncontroversial right now. Yeah. Now let's go the whole Reasonable Doubt.

[Amani]

Yep.

[Ice]

Blueprint, volume, Blueprint Black, Black album. Any other classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't put volume two American for me too.

[Ice]

And I like American Gangster too. For me, those two are also in there.

[Parks]

But volume one is his third best album.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I love Volume one.

[Ice]

Volume one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It gets so disrespected.

[Amani]

I agree with you on that.

[Ice]

So. So. So to me, like, they're in the same. It just depends. To me, HOV and. And J and Kanye just depends on them extra albums. What you think? Like, if you love 808s, then you might put Yay up there.

[Amani]

If you.

[Ice]

For me, American Gangster and, you know, it's like a slept on classic that puts HOV above him in that. But they both in the same conversation. Anybody else in that conversation? Nas got three Tribe has. Oh, we talking solo, though. Solo.

[Amani]

Nas got. Yeah.

[Ice]

Nas has got maybe four.

[Amani]

We got Illmatic. Are you.

[Ice]

It was written Illmatic.

[Amani]

It was a written guy.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ice]

It's still madic. Overrated now 10 years later in terms of the classic conversation. Okay, so still mad Classic.

[Amani]

Hell, yeah.

[Ice]

And then he got at least one hit Boy classic too, right?

[Joe Button]

I'm not putting magic. I love the one with y' all speeding again. Slow down. If there's a fight to be had, then how do you feel about Still Madic?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Still Matic is cool. Not a classic album.

[Amani]

Absolutely. A classic album.

[Parks]

Classic.

[Amani]

How's it not a classic album?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know what? I might be speaking from a level of bias, cuz I'm not the biggest Nas guy.

[Joe Button]

So I. I'll.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'll tap out today.

[Amani]

All the rap parties, trash, but I'll forgive him for that.

[Joe Button]

All right, you got to look back. You say no, no.

[Ice]

I get why people. People. Some people thought the Stillmatic got an extra push because of. Just because of Ether and because of the moment. But when you go back and listen to the album now, it's still. To me, it holds up.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I've actually listened to the album.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's been the last few months. Not a class classic again. That's a different bar that we're speaking about.

[Ice]

I wouldn't die on that hill.

[Parks]

But I think Life Is Good as Borderland classic.

[Ice]

But I think Life Is Good is better than Still Mad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I do, too.

[Ice]

In terms of classic conversation. I think.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think it's a better album.

[Joe Button]

Missing something.

[Parks]

All right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Life Is Good.

[Joe Button]

Life Is Good was great.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Life Is Good.

[Ice]

Well, you just had a blueprint.

[Joe Button]

3. Life is good. It's better than Stillmatic.

[Ice]

What is on Classic.

[Joe Button]

What is on.

[Ice]

That was his hear, my dear. Yeah, I mean, I think. And I love Stillmatic. I just think Stillmatic has a. Like you said, skips. There's a few songs of Stillmatic that don't hold up as well.

[Amani]

Yeah, I think the latter half of the album kind of gets a little bit murky, but overall, I really enjoy that album. As long as you're 20 years old this year.

[Ice]

And I still. And maybe it's too early to look at the hit boy stuff, but I think there's at least one classic among that.

[Amani]

I like Magic a lot.

[Ice]

I like Magic a lot.

[Parks]

That's my favorite one.

[Ice]

Yeah, I love Kings of these two. But. But. But Magic is up there.

[Joe Button]

All right, y' all glazing now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And yo, you can't forget Kendrick.

[Joe Button]

You talking about multiple classics.

[Ice]

Oh, how many does Kendrick got?

[Amani]

Like four? Yeah, Kendrick got like. Let's see all of them. Good Kid Pimp Dan. Damn,

[Joe Button]

y' all going crazy, man.

[Ice]

Wait, I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Y'. All. Y' all are going absolutely crazy.

[Ice]

He got at least 4.

[Joe Button]

Time for my favorite part.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I absolutely. You know, I do not. With Tippa Butterfly. Why but to deny that album, like to just impact. Like y' all spoke about longevity, all of that. I. I can't even do that.

[Joe Button]

You have.

[Ice]

You can't not call that Pimpa Butterfly. Good kid. And then I think Mr. Morale is

[Amani]

like a four and a half mike album.

[Parks]

That's a good album, but I wouldn't put it in classic. I think GNX is not going to the door.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's the one.

[Amani]

You think it's better than Mr. Morale?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes.

[Ice]

Y' all love gnx way more than I do. But I think Kendrick got three. Three in a possible.

[Amani]

Yeah, I'm not mad.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And if you. If you start section 80 should be in that conversation.

[Ice]

Can. Can I ask, since we played we started with your music, how many Joe Button classics are there in your opinion?

[Joe Button]

In my opinion, 17. I still can't believe you give doobies 17 mixtapes. Album don't matter thing I haven't. You know what I mean?

[Amani]

That Mood Music 2.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Major Mood Music 2. Moon Music 3. All I've Lost.

[Ice]

So you three classics.

[Amani]

Yes, I get.

[Ice]

How many do you say?

[Joe Button]

None of my music is going to be recognized by the public as a classic.

[Ice]

That's why I want to know how your friends feel about you.

[Joe Button]

Oh, they love me.

[Ice]

Park 7.

[Parks]

You say 1? 2. 3.

[Ice]

3. You say 3 as well. How many?

[Parks]

4.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Parks]

And some love lost.

[Joe Button]

Some.

[Ice]

Some love. Yeah, the good stuff.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I give Joe some love losses.

[Ice]

You say one.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Thanks. You got any other shit starter questions? You say that, then you put your little fucking face on.

[Ice]

No, I really want to know what people thought.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What about him?

[Ice]

I agree.

[Big Mona]

What about him?

[Ice]

Okay, that's a good question.

[Joe Button]

That is.

[Parks]

I got two for sure.

[Ice]

Slimming commercial.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amani]

Slim. Slim, Shitty lp, Marshall. Eminem show.

[Ice]

Yeah, I'm a big Eminem show.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Ice]

That's why I jumped off the wagon for a second.

[Amani]

I felt like Eminem show, like set was like blueprint for G Unit to rise because he used a lot of those samples.

[Ice]

It was so far, far from. It started to move too far from the hip hop that I love. I think it's a preference thing. Yeah, Slim and Marshall I think were great. I actually love Marshall. Math is still my favorite one.

[Joe Button]

Don't look away now.

[Ice]

What time is it, Joe?

[Joe Button]

Jesus fucking Marion, Joe. And it wasn't you moaning. It wasn't either. These fucking dweebs over here. How many does Em have now? It was just Black History Month. Now we talking about Eminem classics. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show Prize table. All right. Shoot your shot on Prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right, Prize Picks is now giving you $50 in lineups when you sign up and play your first $5. Prize picks makes every dunk, every dime, every board that much more exciting and enjoyable. So don't miss the chance to get started on America's number one app for sports picks. Prize Picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick two or more players, look at their projected stat line, and pick more or less for your chance to win big. How you play is totally up to you. If you want flexibility, choose flex play where you can get paid even if one of your picks misses. And if you want the biggest payouts, go for the power play. No matter your play, Prize Picks is a great way to put your takes to the table test. Don't forget, if you download that Prize Picks app right this second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup. And you shouldn't forget because I've said that about seven times already. Only on price picks where it's good to be right. I'm telling you, I should get paid for this. I should get paid for doing shit like that. That voice, it's a pretty good voice. So come on, man. Rapper man, one of the greatest. Actually, I didn't love my rap voice, but my voiceover voice.

[Parks]

You never liked your rap voice.

[Joe Button]

I don't like it now. Listening to it, I was thinking I hate Mark. Back to rap voices. I do like back to back weeks. New Sahai. Oh, let's hear a little bit. This is the good breakup, the good music breakup, his side of the story. Whatever side I got going on, I do like it. I like Lucy Drops. Bring him back.

[Big Mona]

I love rappers that rap.

[Joe Button]

Me too. Spirit of cold train ghost came and gave me some old game.

[Ice]

Before you go down this lane make

[Joe Button]

sure you're soul trained. New clothing would be the reason that the bros change airing out of dirty

[Ice]

laundry for your own game.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Just cause they offered you bread don't

[Ice]

mean it's whole grain but what's already understood. You know the old saying New gold chain covered my collarbone with ice cubes Independent Kevin Hardy ride along like the

[Big Mona]

first floor plan I'm known to take

[Ice]

a model home I didn't have no idea but I was known for Rockefeller

[Big Mona]

Good music boy you know what side I'm on.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a bunch of politics But I'm

[Joe Button]

with my niggas right or wrong keep

[Ice]

thinking they just had me round and

[Joe Button]

right around song I ride with tone

[Mark Lamar Hill]

the glock could smell like a xylophone

[Joe Button]

but it was a I'm still shook

[Ice]

from my last incident so watch you

[Mark Lamar Hill]

you trying to go viral on what

[Ice]

if I told you I was supposed

[Joe Button]

to be on watch the throne in

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Detroit too but they took me off

[Ice]

the jones as many times I've been off finger ly Dexter around some who

[Big Mona]

think of you lesser cause you wasn't

[Ice]

a killer I said the same thing to detect

[Big Mona]

rest us inside the priests

[Ice]

and finessers Ain't no telling where your demons are catching still sleeping with that thing on the dresser Just thought I

[Big Mona]

need to address a shine you my

[Mark Lamar Hill]

dog so don't think that it's pressure

[Ice]

I was just trying to keep us together.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Cause I didn't think you and Big

[Big Mona]

Sean got along but what about Travis? And my Travis somehow developed a habit

[Joe Button]

of letting that's the good music breakup that is Sahai. It is available right this second on his Instagram. Grand. Yeah.

[Parks]

I don't know why he's not putting these out, like, for real.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. Probably can't. Maybe they'll come out. They're going to come out.

[Ice]

They need to. They better.

[Joe Button]

But that sounds good. Shout out to S. Hopefully this means a project is coming. If so, I. I undoubtedly look forward to it. All right. That's all I got in in music.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I'm done. It was a trash day. It was trash music drop.

[Ice]

Can I just apologize to Ice formally?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's up? I'm always down to receive an apology.

[Ice]

Just, you know, we had some debates about Bruno Mars.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, yeah.

[Ice]

Versus J. Cole.

[Joe Button]

You wanna get ahead of it now?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Let him. Let him. I like this.

[Ice]

No, no. We had some say it and you know, we. Not only some of us. I won't say no names disagree viewing it.

[Joe Button]

Y' all did that stupid dap y' all do when you think smart niggas are agreeing. You did that dumb ass shit and was dead ass.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So doofy. They look so doofy.

[Parks]

But anyway, I might have agreed with that.

[Ice]

Parks was there too. We was all agreed.

[Joe Button]

I'm never gonna call Parks Doofy. Y' all two would Doofy.

[Ice]

Anyway, we disagreed that J. Cole would do better than Bruno Mars. In fact, we may have even scoffed, maybe even guffawed.

[Joe Button]

Y' all did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You did.

[Ice]

You did.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Very disrespectful.

[Ice]

Very, very disrespectful. And the Numbers have come out and it wasn't that close. You were absolutely right. We were absolutely wrong in. And so I want to, on behalf of only me, humbly apologize.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

My man.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Ice]

You are correct.

[Parks]

To you and J. Cole.

[Ice]

Yes, yes, exactly. Word Ish may have a different take. I don't want to speak for him. That's all.

[Amani]

I.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's cool. That's cool. But, yeah, apology accepted, Bruno.

[Joe Button]

Fuck. Really? You gonna let him off like that, man? Yeah, yeah, we good. What you want him to do when I be rant? Got a basket when I'm ranting? Nah, we take advantage when I'm right.

[Ice]

Take a victory lap.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't give a fuck if I'm right. Two times the same day. It's gonna be an event. Bruno. Damn. Mars. Anybody going back to that Bruno Mars album?

[Parks]

Nope.

[Ice]

No, I still play that same song. I like the first one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No.

[Ice]

Track one.

[Parks]

Cha Cha Cha.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Ice]

No. Oh, no, no. The other one. What's it. What's that shit called?

[Joe Button]

Don't worry about it. B D. How's your R and B music game? I know you stove God cooks out.

[Amani]

Still got my jam sprinkle extra tight on.

[Joe Button]

I know you rock. Marcied out. But how's your arm? R B? How's your R B knowledge?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm pretty.

[Amani]

I'm all right.

[Joe Button]

You play music when you.

[Ice]

Yeah. You play like mop? Or do you play like, you know, banned from TV?

[Joe Button]

Reservoir dogs. O.C. time's up. She lacked the minerals and vitamins.

[Parks]

Shut the OC Mark.

[Joe Button]

You missed. You missed. You missed one of those killer lines in the. In the 50 cent.

[Ice]

Yo, y' all said he slipped.

[Joe Button]

Theme song.

[Ice]

Yeah, I, I, I missed the actual bars on this joint. He said, pull this joint.

[Joe Button]

That's why you gotta listen to lyrics, man.

[Ice]

For the first time with y'.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All.

[Ice]

He said, I'm back on my dope, boy. Grandma, your daddy made your mama eat every box in Atlanta.

[Big Mona]

Whoa.

[Ice]

Freak peep. Yo, he. Yeah, he.

[Amani]

That could be open to interpretation, though.

[Big Mona]

Nah, that's pretty straight.

[Joe Button]

What's the.

[Ice]

Was it.

[Joe Button]

Wait, wait.

[Amani]

Well, we don't know if he's talking directly towards TI about with that line, but.

[Joe Button]

Well, I didn't see the show yet. You're right.

[Ice]

Power's not even set in Atlanta. This shit is in New York. Yeah, no, that line is doing a lot of damage.

[Parks]

That's a lot of munching.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Your mom. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

That's crazy. That's crazy. T's already firing back with, you know, on Instagram.

[Parks]

To mommy put out another record, did he? Yeah.

[Ice]

Is it good?

[Parks]

I didn't love it. I didn't love it. The angle I can play if you want. N my brother.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

We shouted out aim.

[Parks]

Yeah, right. You're right.

[Joe Button]

You're right, you're right. Russell and Lil John in hour one.

[Parks]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Button]

And Damani got. He got all the praise from me on the first drop. That's what it's. That's what it's going to get from me. Got you one Damani drop.

[Ice]

That's fair.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. We still got to sell advertising.

[Ice]

Just one more ti piece outside of this beef. He said that. Or maybe you can say he admitted that leaving Atlantic Records was a bad choice.

[Joe Button]

But wait, don't slow down a little bit. The 50 line, I think it's impactful. But can it be so impactful with the first bar from hater to love it?

[Big Mona]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yes. Still can.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. Growing up, I was confused. My mama kissing the girl.

[Ice]

Yeah. It's a little different. Your mom kissing the girl is different than your mom being hold out by your daddy. You eat box across the Dixon.

[Joe Button]

Also, when it come twisted, mom.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

When it come to battling.

[Ice]

And I'm not saying that's true, y',

[Parks]

all, let's be clear.

[Big Mona]

When it comes to battling, when you going on somebody that's not remotely involved in it, does that matter? Cuz Tiny don't rap. Tiny ain't a part of it. But that's what his angle's been.

[Ice]

Just Tiny and now his mom.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's what.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, he's talking to them kids.

[Big Mona]

He's talking.

[Joe Button]

He's talking to the kids. Talking to kids.

[Ice]

Oh, I'm slow.

[Big Mona]

And it goes along with the sexual

[Ice]

responding to the kids.

[Joe Button]

Kids rap.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. The first line of 50 shit talking is towards his son. It's not towards.

[Ice]

Mark is slow today. Thank you.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, just in general, does that matter?

[Ice]

Yeah, I don't like that. I like that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

[Ice]

I don't like going to Tiny at all.

[Joe Button]

I don't like that. But in my heyday, when I was dissing somebody, I was guaranteed to diss somebody you was cool with too.

[Big Mona]

Yeah. I dis. Now me, if I'm talking shit, I'm talking about everybody.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Maybe not a family member or one of your kids or your wife. I'm not.

[Parks]

But if the kids is rapping at

[Amani]

you, then there are no rules in battle.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, but the wife was never rapping at Him. The wife never said she only minded her own business. The wife is literally why the kids got in this exactly like she. You could have kept it ti. But you know, not right. But you don't get to dictate how somebody respond to what they perceive as a level of disrespect.

[Ice]

And that's why I didn't get on the kids when they came at 50 mom. I was like. I understood it even though I didn't like it. And now it's right. I mean, I'm seeing Benzino wear t shirts with 50s dead mom on it. It's like, it's just, it's, it's, it's just getting further. No, no, this ain't about. My point is, this is why I don't like it. Cuz now this poor woman who ain't do nothing to nobody is like a punchline that's even bigger than that beef. I just hate that. I hate it for Tiny. I hate it for 50s mom. I hate it for all of them.

[Joe Button]

You're absolutely right.

[Big Mona]

But don't say on top of the fact that Tiny is really unproblematic.

[Ice]

We've been getting slayed all week.

[Joe Button]

Funny, I don't have any beef with Benzino either. Like, why am I saying that? Trying to sell, selling, selling ads.

[Ice]

Shout out to Benzino.

[Joe Button]

I can't take you guys. Our one performance to Samsung. Not with Aem. What's his name?

[Ice]

You keep bringing him up.

[Joe Button]

We in hour two. Say it now. I don't have any more with music. I'm done. I'm finished with music. Unless bdot has an album that came out that I don't know about.

[Amani]

No, I think I'm good. Well, Wiz Kleefer did drop drop last week.

[Joe Button]

Another Horses.

[Amani]

Yeah, yeah, that's two records on there I really enjoy.

[Joe Button]

No, you didn't know that Drop. Freeze.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You're right. It's not gonna work.

[Joe Button]

He been trying hard, thirsty, begging.

[Ice]

It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen today.

[Joe Button]

You know why I love Freeze? He knows how immature I am.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I know you.

[Ice]

He sees the trap.

[Joe Button]

I don't like that part. But we done lived together. It been over 20 years. He know my brain. Yo, know what's funny? I didn't even think to come in here on that type of time.

[Ice]

I did. I was waiting for hour two.

[Joe Button]

No one's. No, no, I wasn't thinking that at all. I was thinking, okay, we had such a great music part. The last part that. Let me, let me get my guy Ice involved Because I know he with some of that. He with some of that music too. I wasn't. I was thinking, like teamwork and camaraderie.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

How about I was thinking.

[Joe Button]

I wasn't thinking like pit people against each other until they sat together.

[Ice]

Right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You said they're looking like, hey, I could do this.

[Amani]

The real stutter turning.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Them beat. I was like, I don't know about Jeezy's first album. You know, I just can't let that slide.

[Ice]

And we ate your lunch in that. That Ty dollar sign. That's. That's. That's how I remember it. That. That's when I was like, oh, this might be a problem.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that was a.

[Ice]

That's when I looked at you like, this might be a thing.

[Big Mona]

He ate your lunches, like.

[Joe Button]

But then. Parks on the block.

[Ice]

Spice.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Park spun for free. You ain't going to come here just jumping us with your Christianity.

[Ice]

I like this musicality.

[Big Mona]

It's sad that he's been so like, you know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Cuz he smoked Mona too early on with that. She ain't said a Muslim word. And I think I seen her go eat something.

[Big Mona]

I even.

[Joe Button]

I think he sent her to a meal.

[Big Mona]

Disrespect.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's terrible.

[Big Mona]

This is disrespectful. There's nothing we can do about it.

[Joe Button]

Nop. Okay. We are done with music. Indeed.

[Amani]

It's offering time.

[Joe Button]

You said a Christianity thing.

[Ice]

We'll work on the. The humor slider is not, you know.

[Big Mona]

See, now everything's all topsy turvy right now. Park's gonna go make a filet.

[Parks]

I'd love to.

[Joe Button]

So. So listen, I'm really passionate about the TV show Paradise featuring Sterling K. Brown.

[Parks]

Me too.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We are.

[Parks]

I love that show.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm caught up.

[Parks]

Oh, good. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All four, then.

[Ice]

I'm going to all four.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

My man.

[Joe Button]

If you are not caught up, there's a button leave.

[Parks]

There's a button button for you.

[Big Mona]

I'm about to leave.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Amani]

I'm going this way.

[Joe Button]

If you care about spoiler alerts, I'm going. I'm. I'm going to give something.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, it's about to be.

[Joe Button]

So I waited a week.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You did.

[Joe Button]

And I have something that I'm extremely passionate about. So. As it pertains to Paradise, Season two, Episode four, they put on an absolute clinic in showing the world why patriarchy is so important. Oh, shit. You're not wrong. You are not wrong. Nah. These bitches out here done got voices and jobs and savings and checkings accounts. And now they out here talking about equality. Equality. Patriarchy is bad. Insert paradise. Let me tell you what happened.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I didn't think this was the angle.

[Joe Button]

Why? Why? This is a mess.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

No, it is. When y' all saw the episode before me, y' all was like. And Ish was like, yo, I almost shed a thug tear. I almost cried. Yeah, I was crying. Y' all said that? Yeah. Then my girl watched it before me and said she was crying. Y' all understand what Ice and Ish and them was saying? Y' all almost cried. Really sad episode. Be careful. So I cut it on and grabbed the Kleenex out the medicine cabinet. And I'm sitting there watching. I got that minute, minute 20. Not a tear in sight. After a minute, No. I said I got to minute 20. Oh. I said I got to minute 30. Dry as can be. Dry as could be. Not even doing the sniffles. And then I got to minute 40 and I think I bumped into the part that everybody else was talking about, but I was celebrating, boy, I was having a party. The bitch that was supposed to die is dead. Thank the fucking Lord. This hoe was annoying since they introduced them. She ain't right. But she was still sad. So what? Nothing sad about it. And that's why. So listen, what I mean about the patriarchy is this lady was left alone to her own devices. She was by herself intentionally. She was straight intentionally. She buried her good, good homegirl. That got her the job at the Elvis Presley's place, Graceland. And she was by herself, surviving, doing great insert a crew of men trying to, you know, survive and head to the next destination. She fought. They fall in love. They fall in a heavy like, okay, there we go. They fall in heavy enough, like for the dude to say, hey, I'm not pulling out. Listen, it's dangerous. Oh, well, yeah, that too. That too. But he said to her, I'm not leaving you here. Please, please come with me. You're going to die if you stay here. Left by yourself. Like, let's go. And he said this after sex. He said this after sex?

[Parks]

After leaving it in too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Hey, you would think that a mature conversation would happen at this point, but not on Paradise. Know what she does? You guessed it. The bitch locks herself in the bathroom and doesn't even replace reply to him.

[Parks]

Ghosting someone in the apocalypse is crazy in the house.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ghosting them.

[Joe Button]

She locked herself in the bathroom as he's trying to save her life. Finally, he can't wait anymore. He has to go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We got to be out insert a

[Joe Button]

black guy come in. All of this time later, Sterling K. Brown. He comes in, finds the lady. What does she do?

[Parks]

About nine months later.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What does she you do? Handcuff him? She handcuffs him. Cool. When he wakes up, she un. Handcuffs the dude and they make friends, Right? She says, I need you to help me find my baby daddy. This is a Cliff Note version, by the way. It's not in order. This is just what my thoughts were. She says, I need you to help me find my baby daddy. This guy who the free world is obliterated. He's only here to even look for his wife. Says to her, as soon as we find my wife, I'll help you find your baby daddy.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Lost me right there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not gonna hold you.

[Joe Button]

Are you fucking kidding me? Cool.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm thankful. You saved my life. You helped me out. Cause she. She saved him.

[Big Mona]

Cool.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Cause you know, her medical background, all that Great. My. I'm not making that promise to you, fam. Sorry.

[Joe Button]

Hey.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is the apocalypse.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

They get on some horses, she starts having contractions. The black guy finds a safe place for her to be and says, I'm gonna go get help. The white lady says, no, please don't leave me. I don't trust people. So now the black guy has to work through her trauma. This black guy at the end of the earth who can't find his way. Wife has to now heal this bitch emotionally. Yes.

[Parks]

Deliver her baby.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And it's the pit stop. It ain't like I'm in the city, where the wife at? I still gotta get over there.

[Joe Button]

I'm watching this shit, saying, you've gotta be kidding me. But, oh, it gets worse. He goes out, actually finds how risked his life.

[Parks]

He almost dies in the process.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And then he comes back with the to help. And not only did he have to heal your trauma, he said, we're gonna deliver this baby. He's delivering a baby now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And it's triggering him from when he had to deliver the baby before. So he gotta work through his bullshit too. They deliver the baby, and this heifer has the nerve to. And her responsibilities end at. Give her this note here. Give her this note when she's old enough to read it. You mean we gotta wait five, six? Actually, it ain't even five. Kids can't read it five no more. You gotta wait 12 years. In America it's 12. We gotta wait 12 years for this kid to grow up and read this slowly apologize.

[Parks]

So you might have to wait a little longer.

[Amani]

I'M trying to follow you guys. But what is paradise even about?

[Joe Button]

Paradise is about a bunch of billionaires creating a bunker for a select group of people to go live in. Because the end of the world is coming. So they think.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not just a bunker, like an entire underground.

[Joe Button]

Whoa. Basically like a city. Yeah. Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Paradise.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's paradise. It's simulated weather. It's this just. They recreated what they wanted the world to be. Society. Yeah. It's a really good show.

[Amani]

It is.

[Joe Button]

Check it out.

[Amani]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Whenever you put down that new who came out whiz, see how I think B Live. I don't know if this TV is in his house.

[Parks]

I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

Speakers, though.

[Amani]

I got a black and white speakers so I can see the Knicks play basketball.

[Joe Button]

Ass lost the other night. Shot, shake, gild, whatever. So, yeah, this is why patriarchy is important, is my point.

[Parks]

Not to mention that when he gets to the destination, I'm. Mark's here, so I got to worry about spoilers now. But she's gone. He didn't risk life and limb.

[Joe Button]

It's true. Yeah. Also, what a lesson in how important it is to shed dead weight. What a master class is. And hey, everybody can't go. Sorry.

[Parks]

One way or another. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

If they. If this chick stayed alive, she wasn't gonna do nothing but piss me off for the rest of the show. And slow him down.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's a fact.

[Joe Button]

And slow him down.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What y' all think the baby gonna do?

[Parks]

Oh, no. That baby just strapped on the body. Good.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that baby would be Joe Montana.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What we talking about?

[Joe Button]

That baby? That baby would be. He's anchorman. The baby. I would say a prayer, but everybody can go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You out your mind, my nigga. I know it sounds crazy. What was the promise? What was it called? Whatever.

[Parks]

I'd have left it with the family that said that. Yeah. We'll figure it out. We'll take the baby.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's not gonna be with me.

[Joe Button]

Mark, you came back too soon. I only got one spoiler alert left.

[Ice]

Go ahead. I can tune you out.

[Joe Button]

So at the end of the episode, he bumps into homeboy.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Who's best friends with his wife. Distinguished panel that follows this show, how would y' all react in that moment?

[Parks]

I would go off the. Look. He didn't look like he was tearing

[Joe Button]

nothing down, but it's the apocalypse.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He might have. The way he was talking, I'd have went off. I'd have went off the deep end.

[Joe Button]

They've. Yeah. She was my best friend. She was my Everything.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All of that.

[Joe Button]

She was all we had. And they've taken her from me. Did you beat.

[Parks]

I just got to it.

[Joe Button]

Did you beat? Is that what you want to know? At the end of the world? But what are the odds that the world is over? You looking for your wife and you found the. That was her before you found her.

[Parks]

He looked like he was on BFF time. I'm not gonna lie.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Desperation set in around the world.

[Joe Button]

I think they're playing with the words with this taking. Taking her from me thing. Oh, yeah. It might have been eaten. Eat her ass. Eat her ass. Yeah, I think she's still alive. I think the best friend sl. Boyfriend is going to now help him find paradise. Is doing great. All right for y' all to come back now. I won't spoil any. Any more of paradise.

[Parks]

I'm loving it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I'm loving it.

[Parks]

I'm loving it. I did start Peter's Five Kingdoms or whatever, and I got. I'm only two episodes in, but that is boring as hell. I'm tight. Everyone's saying, oh to be.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's going great.

[Parks]

This is boring.

[Joe Button]

Everybody that I see talk about it says it's awesome.

[Parks]

All right. But through two episodes, it is not awesome. But I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep with it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's only six.

[Parks]

I know. That's why.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's why I don't even want to start it now.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they don't with park show takes. They. They killed them for the. Their dairy air still.

[Amani]

Which one?

[Parks]

Oh, I stopped it.

[Joe Button]

It.

[Parks]

Yeah. Yeah. I walked that back. I said that there was. It was ended up being.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, you did. You did walk that.

[Big Mona]

I wish y' all would have watched that. I did Not a tv. You the only one you're watching. I'm not a TV girl, but I love that.

[Joe Button]

In local.

[Big Mona]

Wait a minute. Before you move on, will y' all be willing to watch anything with me? Maybe there's a couple shows that are. They're not supposed to be funny, but they're very funny. And y' all should watch them with me.

[Parks]

Let's hear it.

[Big Mona]

It's the one where they. You find love in another country. I mean another. Another. You find love across the. The world. Okay. Most of these people are like. It's just good. Okay.

[Ice]

What's it called?

[Big Mona]

Love. It's love. Lockdown is the one with the jail people. I want to slide that one in.

[Joe Button]

Well, we.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That track.

[Joe Button]

We figured that was on. On your list.

[Big Mona]

Love Abroad is the other one. But I'm telling Y', all. And it's like, I'm not even. We don't have to watch the entire show together. I can just send y' all the links to watch specific people we could track there.

[Parks]

But like bootlegs or you're gonna give us a like.

[Big Mona]

No, it's. Everything's online now. You know what I mean? But it's good. You don't watch none of that. Your lady don't watch none of that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, we watch Love Island. Yeah, that's.

[Parks]

That's our Love is Blind sometimes. Yeah, I haven't watched this season.

[Big Mona]

See, I don't watch Love island or Love is Blind.

[Ice]

Is love Lockdown just lesbian action?

[Big Mona]

No, it's no lesbian action. It's all. It's people that you. They. They Sometimes they spend a little bit of time while they're still in prison. So you get that first initial the love affair while they're away, and then they follow them when they come home and they really get the. And having kids and like.

[Ice]

Oh, this is about people after they get out of jail.

[Big Mona]

Both. It's a little bit of both, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, if you suggest some shows, I'll

[Ice]

watch any of them.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna watch anything with this, for being honest.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yo, speaking of watching stuff, Joe, we want to pour out a little. Little liquor. I pick man. He said I pick his file for bankruptcy and it's over.

[Amani]

Damn.

[Parks]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

And that was I pick in Fort Le specifically. That's the only one I give a about. Yeah, yeah.

[Amani]

Was there any others?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, one over there in Fulton, the rest of them in New York.

[Amani]

Oh, they all over Fort Le down.

[Joe Button]

Well, I mean in this area.

[Amani]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Button]

New Jersey's only I pick was the one that was. Yeah, we sell a lot of movies over there.

[Ice]

School me on it. What makes I pick special.

[Joe Button]

IPIC opened up 10 years ago in Fort Lee and it was supposed to be a high end movie experience. They had a restaurant that was pretty. Pretty good downstairs. The seats reclined. It was only eight theaters.

[Ice]

So one of them approach.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you can order food. Food and drink to your seat.

[Ice]

I mean your seats.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's like you and your lady. It's like walls around the two of y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

Like it's.

[Ice]

It's first class.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A high end dine in movie theater experience that has anchored one of Fort Lee's largest modern developments. Will go dark later this year. As I pick will shudder after a decade long run late last month. I Pick Theaters LLC. Falfa Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection in the U.S. bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Florida. The company operates 13 Dine in Theater locations and eight restaurant units nationwide with the Fort Lee location within the Hudson Lights complex as their only Garden State location. A recently filed New Jersey New Jersey war notice states that 97 employees at I pick theaters in Fort Lee will be laid off by the end of May. The company listed as effective as date May 28 in the paperwork it submitted to the New Jersey Department of Labor. Launched in 2016, the eight screen 530533 seat IPIC theater was once the fastest growing luxury cinema chain in the country. The theater serves features a full service restaurant that allows guests to order complete meals to their seats during films and also a sports also sports a full bar with cocktails, wine and beer. This is a really sad day day in New Jersey.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This is sad bro.

[Joe Button]

I. I can't promise you that I'm going to the movies again now.

[Parks]

Well the Regals got at least by me they got the recliners now you can get some, some liquor alcohol there. Yeah it's a little better than it

[Amani]

used to but people aren't going to the movies like how they used to, you know after covet like.

[Parks]

But yeah I'm sure generally which is

[Big Mona]

crazy because I really think that that whole bring you the food and the drink to the seat like that's, that's perfect. I don't know be surprised. I know a lot of people say they'll fall. They fall asleep. Like it's hard not to. Oh I sleep get rocked out. I mean some people sleep in the movies regardless. But now that you can get a shot of Hennessy in the quesadilla like just your odds of staying up.

[Ice]

That was the plan as a parent like my daughter. I want you to meet her. She's downstairs. When I would take her to kids movies once they open them movies them theaters up, that's what I would do. I would go get a drink, get a food good food in you. You rock out two hours, three hours and just sleep after you.

[Amani]

You never smuggled food in.

[Ice]

Oh I was the king of smuggling food.

[Amani]

That was today you don't smuggle something into the movie.

[Big Mona]

Not now. They got food be that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah they got all, they got all the fly bringing a hot dog from

[Big Mona]

you bring a hot dog in and they sell you know what I mean? Quesadillas and make you look like, like it makes you look pretty orange.

[Ice]

What do you sneak into the movie?

[Amani]

So let me names or wait you smuggling the.

[Ice]

They got.

[Joe Button]

Yeah I used to do that.

[Big Mona]

We used to do that.

[Joe Button]

We used to do that.

[Big Mona]

We used to do that.

[Ice]

Now I see how this happen.

[Big Mona]

I remember in Philly when they started

[Ice]

hard times, they started searching. I see how they say oh you got one. You said your marker piece of it's discount price. He said wait. You said yo.

[Joe Button]

Wait, what?

[Ice]

You said yo. You said I always flip was here.

[Joe Button]

You're so dumb, man.

[Amani]

I'm missing it.

[Big Mona]

But that's how it is.

[Ice]

That's how the movie is. Yeah, that's the point of the story.

[Joe Button]

Marcus calling you poor for sneaking in.

[Ice]

But I'm also saying Joe knows that and then that's why he got sh in my game.

[Joe Button]

Do you think that's when I hire people when they at their pores?

[Big Mona]

You're he's saying I don't think you

[Ice]

saw me hired by CNN and said let me bring this in. Oh and I waited.

[Joe Button]

I waited till she was down on I waited till that break beat was on. On the rocks total not the same thing.

[Big Mona]

Jodashians believe that too. They believe that.

[Joe Button]

It's a joke.

[Big Mona]

Episode 2 they Look I'm on the socks now. Socks match. That's that Joey check. Like

[Mark Lamar Hill]

that's funny.

[Big Mona]

Get the out of here.

[Amani]

Yeah, but bring some Sour Patch Kids to the movie theater. That's what you meant.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, because basically that's what you were saying that you were in financial despair and you had to be here.

[Ice]

Yeah, she bringing it back. See, that's up.

[Amani]

That's pretty.

[Big Mona]

Because you know they don't. They won't fill you in, babe and I will.

[Parks]

They do sell M M's now.

[Amani]

But why wouldn't spend $7.

[Joe Button]

If you go to the dollar store

[Amani]

Dollar General, the same shit is there

[Joe Button]

for half the price.

[Ice]

We're not the same.

[Big Mona]

It's just now we ain't doing that.

[Ice]

Yeah, I'm not doing that. We Mission impossible shit for shit they got here.

[Big Mona]

You know what I mean? You gotta get this big dumb ass tote bag.

[Ice]

I believe.

[Big Mona]

Remember when they started searching bags if you bought snacks?

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. See and as dudes you don't. We can't really bring bags like women can bring purses and just put shit in. It's hard today wear purses.

[Joe Button]

They can get that off. That's true. The only place I steal from today is the airport. Yeah, you keep saying that.

[Ice]

It's the airport's the best. That's the only place you can get.

[Joe Button]

They don't care. Please. You think they would believe that Joe Button Is in Hudson News. Stealing Cliff bars. Stealing a strawberry and banana smoothie drink or some shit.

[Big Mona]

Strawberry, banana smoothie.

[Joe Button]

I'm nasty. I steal the little egg sandwich in the. I go right to the sandwiches. I'm such a thief. I go to the sandwiches and pick some chicken. Check the date on this one.

[Amani]

Tuck it in.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I gotta steal them. Shit. Be like $29.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, don't be surprised. Shoplifting quadruple after Covid. People really do just be out there on that now.

[Joe Button]

Know why else you gotta steal? If you just buy the sandwich you think you want and go to the plane, you might not be in the mood for that sandwich by the time you get there.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Now you wasted your money.

[Joe Button]

I'm should have stole something.

[Parks]

And you gotta see if you still got it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

A little temp check.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's it.

[Joe Button]

Apple juice tastes better when you steal. So what happened if you didn't caught

[Mark Lamar Hill]

and realized you don't got it?

[Joe Button]

You don't got it.

[Parks]

Now you gotta go to jail if

[Big Mona]

you don't steal from the airport. I look at you weird.

[Joe Button]

If you got caught stealing from the airport, you're a crackhead and you should be ashamed of yourself. Now we're gonna judge you. You're stealing from.

[Ice]

How could you be.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You got caught doing that.

[Big Mona]

Come on. Like, imagine the lady walking up like, excuse me. Come in with that neck pillow. Yes, I did.

[Amani]

Now you jfk.

[Joe Button]

Are you still big shit

[Ice]

the neck

[Mark Lamar Hill]

pillow do be right there. You ain't got to go all the way in.

[Big Mona]

So I'm walking with a len, y'. All Neck pillows all Lenny to the left N brand new neck pillow. Every flight. You heard me Outfit.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they do be at the exit

[Big Mona]

right there for this plane.

[Ice]

Y' all are degenerate.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I stole a book one time, knowing I wasn't going to read it.

[Ice]

That was just for sport. That was just for the love of the game.

[Joe Button]

Leave it on the plane for the

[Big Mona]

next person after I stole the book

[Joe Button]

was like, let's see what the Susan Lucci think about this.

[Amani]

Are you hijacking before you go on a flight?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I ain't got nothing else to do. They ran out of Daily News. It Susan Lucci's memoirs. It is. All right, we did have a. What were we supposed to get to after? Oh, Oprah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oprah and Gail. Who? Somebody on the Internet called Oprah and Kale and I haven't stopped laughing since. It was pretty funny. But Oprah and Gail, really? Oprah was seen at some event in Fashion Week in Paris.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And Oprah looked like she has not eaten in at least eight months. And I know I'm the last person to have this conversation.

[Amani]

For some muscle.

[Big Mona]

That's the last Islamic joke going around. Me and Mark won't flip out here just showing off.

[Joe Button]

No. Oprah looks really, really extremely slim. Like this. Smaller than I probably have ever seen.

[Big Mona]

Y' all think she looks good, or you saying she. You feel like she looks emancy. Emaciated.

[Amani]

Emaciated.

[Big Mona]

Emaciated.

[Joe Button]

I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's. That Philly. Philly. I think she looks good.

[Ice]

I. So in the video, she looks. She looks hungry, and she's moving so slow, it almost.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I wouldn't beat. If that's what you asked. What the.

[Big Mona]

I didn't ask that for sure.

[Ice]

I. I think she looks good. I just. I remember when Oprah was this. Then one other time in the. I guess it was the 80s. Late 80s.

[Amani]

When she had the wagon.

[Ice]

Yeah. With the.

[Amani]

Not that wagon.

[Ice]

A literal wagon.

[Joe Button]

Wait a minute. Christian B. Hold it.

[Ice]

Get thee behind me.

[Amani]

She had to wa.

[Ice]

Say I added Satan.

[Joe Button]

Pervert. Pervert. Deacon.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Over here.

[Ice]

Oh, no. But, yeah, she had the shelter. She had the wagon filled with meat.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And to show how much weight she had lost.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And the 80s.

[Big Mona]

Oh, right. I remember. I remember the weight.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that was Mary Kay or some shit, Right? What she was on.

[Ice]

She was on Mary Kay?

[Big Mona]

No, Jenny. Jenny Crack Craig, I think.

[Joe Button]

Jenny Craig.

[Ice]

I don't know what she was.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I know. You missed a bunch of weight in the 80s.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Ain't gonna believe nothing.

[Big Mona]

No, seriously, Weight Watchers. That's what it is.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I know.

[Big Mona]

It's Weight Watch.

[Ice]

I don't remember which one she was on. And she was a little bit cagey about it, but I know there were concerns then about the rapidness of the weight loss and up and down, just like with Luther. Like, the up and down of it. And I don't know why, but she's been. People have connected her to Olympic for a long time now. I don't know what Oprah's on. I don't want to get in the business unless she.

[Joe Button]

Luther was just getting fat after breakups.

[Ice]

Yeah. Yeah. There's a little something to struggle with

[Big Mona]

his weight, But I think Oprah did, too. But Oprah came in a time where women were just supposed to be really small anyway.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right.

[Big Mona]

And then things were always hyper focused on her because she had the top of the game and she's black, period.

[Ice]

So her weight's been steady for, like, the last 15.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, she's been the same size for a while, but, like, is going 60, 70. Man, you doing whatever you got to do to keep that coochie in them panties.

[Amani]

Listen, Oprah looks good. She's 72 years old. She had a nice fit on.

[Ice]

Yeah, I a see she look great.

[Joe Button]

You be.

[Amani]

Huh?

[Big Mona]

Would you.

[Amani]

No.

[Joe Button]

Mark took a.

[Ice]

You took a while to think. What were you pondering?

[Joe Button]

Nah, I love having beat out here just so I can ask him. Mad inappropriate. He always so buttoned up and beat out.

[Big Mona]

You don't have to answer, honey.

[Amani]

No, okay.

[Joe Button]

Mark, you would be.

[Ice]

Nah.

[Joe Button]

Speaking of beating, though, ask me, would you be?

[Big Mona]

I would absolutely. Oprah.

[Parks]

Me, too.

[Big Mona]

Billion dollar Oprah. I'm eating her ass first day, but yeah, I want to get in her good graces. I want to be the next Oprah. Like a mother.

[Joe Button]

You back to being an eater again?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Look, I will eat my.

[Joe Button]

It would be Oprah's personal just eater.

[Big Mona]

That's what took him long. He was thinking about money. Money only.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying, we ain't seen Stedman

[Ice]

Steadman living a great life, man.

[Big Mona]

Yes, he is.

[Ice]

He's a cool dude, too.

[Joe Button]

Steadman, you can't let your joint lose all that weight.

[Big Mona]

Stem it. Come up here.

[Joe Button]

That's why I'm keeping mine thick. She want to get on set down. Sorry. Don't try to get desirable. All right, Mona, this one.

[Big Mona]

Put more.

[Joe Button]

All right, all right. We got it. We got it. Thanks a lot.

[Amani]

It wasn't.

[Big Mona]

I'm saying. Opra ain't the only one with the wagon.

[Amani]

Wasn't Gail on the COVID of Sports Illustrated in a swimsuit, too?

[Joe Button]

I missed it. Yeah, you a horny Christian boy.

[Ice]

It always.

[Joe Button]

That's what else is in that hookah, B. Got all the collectibles. Hey, he wants some. Oh, shit. Yo. What? I What? I will say Oprah looks great. Oprah looks great. I don't love the fact that her and Khed always lose weight around the same time. I don't. I don't love it.

[Big Mona]

I've never seen Khaled lose weight. Oh, yeah, I haven't. That's funny. I haven't seen him.

[Joe Button]

No, he lost weight when he. He did. When Oprah signed him to the Weight Watcher on Snapchat. He did lose weight, but then you could tell when the deal was over.

[Big Mona]

But now, yo, I used to. I follow him on, you know, his Snapchat days, and he really worked out. Out every day. He's one of the only people I've ever saw work out so hard and not lose a hound.

[Joe Button]

Cat looks good now he's slimming down.

[Big Mona]

He looks good now he doesn't care about.

[Ice]

I think it's his diet.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Like, who wants to be like eating healthy and still be fat, right?

[Big Mona]

That's. That's why I hate when people are like. Never mind.

[Joe Button]

Like on some fat vegan.

[Big Mona]

No, people get upset when people assume that fat people are unhealthy, which I get. Every person that's fat doesn't mean that they're unhealthy. You know what I mean? But. You know what I mean?

[Ice]

How many? How many? You know?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nope.

[Big Mona]

And this another thing, let's be clear. Them, that's em. Em. Em. That's emaciated. You know what I mean? I hate to judge women in those ways at all, but that is like more extreme. Even though sometimes you see alter pictures of them, but when you see them, it's like, oh, oh. You're taking aback by them when you see them.

[Joe Button]

Well, they make the Row, which is a clothing brand that I absolutely love. So I don't really care how they look. And clothes is lit.

[Big Mona]

Have you seen them lately?

[Joe Button]

No, but they always been small like that, right? They always suffer.

[Ice]

They got like weird small.

[Big Mona]

At a certain point it changed.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They're like. They're like £80, right?

[Big Mona]

And it's this thing. It's. It's not.

[Joe Button]

Ain't that they normal walk around, wave.

[Big Mona]

I'm telling you, it's a thing, you know, because it's like all these open forms on high to achieve that look, cuz, you got to do some real wild to stay that small.

[Joe Button]

But white people go in the bathroom and put their fist in their mouth and throw up.

[Big Mona]

Well, that's people with bulimia, Joe.

[Ice]

That's every of all races, Joe.

[Joe Button]

That's white people. Black people. Black people. You ain't never seen a black person wouldn't believe me. We don't even go to the doctor to check.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Only apply like, you know, you mark.

[Joe Button]

You see the black person with bulimia, he gonna say yes. I hate. He's such a. I ain't ask him no more.

[Big Mona]

If you suffer from anorexia and bulimia at home, please get yourself.

[Joe Button]

You are biracial. Hey, if you suffering from this white mom, go on ancestry.com and check and check it out.

[Big Mona]

No, but we here at the jbp, we're. We're. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

[Joe Button]

Yes, please, please. I was 10 years old when my mom off chipped my older brother into that rehab to caucus. God damn it. I went up in there. It was in house, in house. All them badass kids was getting up and sharing their testimony. And they did the guy side and the girl side because you couldn't keep them together. The guy side. Every one of them would stand up and they yo, I killed some. Yo, I was robbing. I did all the draws. I beat some up. I had all the guns. My mom was scared. I run the house on the girl sign. Dumb was throwing up. They was 60 pounds. One day I went to McDonald's.

[Ice]

I just threw it out.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I'm making y' all uncomfortable. Ben, look at y'.

[Big Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I'm the last one that should talk about this Oprah Ozempic topic. My girl say it's time to slow it down.

[Parks]

Oh, damn, you wasting away in front of her.

[Joe Button]

She said if I keep it up, I'm get the Ozempic face.

[Parks]

She might be right.

[Joe Button]

She said I'm get. She said I'm get the Olympic face.

[Big Mona]

Joe, have you figured out how to eat on it yet?

[Joe Button]

I'll be eating okay. I eat here and there. None of my clothes fit no more. That's why I'm sitting here dressed like a badass toddler. It's bad time to put the needle down, my brother.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Take a break. Take a break.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm addicted. Never going back to being hungry. That hungry. That's just such an inconvenience. That's some human old school. Y' all eating still like you be outside with mad plans and now you got to go stop at Johnny Rockets or some get a burger. Nah, that we eat next week.

[Big Mona]

P.S.

[Joe Button]

yeah, imagine that. Dictating when I eat. I'm busy.

[Ice]

Speaking of grinding, this is Matt Random. But have y' all been watching these battles online between the fast forward food companies?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ice]

So it start just this most recent round started with Wendy's because Wendy's is is hiring somebody for $100,000 a year to be chief taste officer.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Really?

[Ice]

So they'll give you $100,000 a year. Beat out was like, really? You ready Lose your new little music expert direct. Exactly.

[Joe Button]

I didn't even know Wendy's was offering competitive pot prices. Oh, my Lord.

[Ice]

About to get to have this cash off.

[Big Mona]

He thought he did something.

[Joe Button]

I'll come to the drive through and check and see what's up with y'.

[Ice]

All. Yeah, but you think you $100,000. You work from home mostly, but you Go in, you go to the restaurant, you bring home the food, you eat it, you taste it, you give feedback. It's a great job. They posted it. It's kind of like a promotional thing, but it's also just to get attention to it. And so Popeye's reposted it, quote, tweeted it, and said, they really do need to hire somebody to taste their food to be fair.

[Joe Button]

Wow, thanks. That's funny.

[Ice]

Then Church's Chicken quote, tweeted that and said, and who taste tested your biscuits? Side eye.

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, yeah, they bugging.

[Ice]

Popeye said, glad we could make you relevant again. And then Church's Chicken said, a comeback. As dry as the. Them biscuits.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Damn.

[Big Mona]

Oh, they shooting churches.

[Joe Button]

Wait, is Church's biscuit good enough to

[Ice]

shoot it if I want to bring this to the table?

[Big Mona]

This ain't good enough to chalk talk.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They shouldn't be in the conversation.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, they shouldn't even be chatting.

[Joe Button]

I'm not talking overhead when you hungry. See why being hungry is whack. Now you got to stop in churches and get you some chicken. They biscuits ain't like that to talk to Popeyes. They don't.

[Big Mona]

They're not.

[Ice]

Popey's biscuits fell off.

[Big Mona]

Popeye's biscuits are not.

[Joe Button]

Is that possible?

[Ice]

Used to be when we was kids, them biscuits. Biscuits was.

[Big Mona]

They were good to the point of 35 years.

[Ice]

They look like they.

[Big Mona]

They're dry to the point where you can't enjoy them.

[Joe Button]

Maybe the Philadelphia Popeyes aren't getting the same bread distribution Are the same.

[Big Mona]

Y' all telling me the Popeye biscuits are the same as I used to be?

[Joe Button]

I haven't had a Popeye.

[Ice]

They didn't have Popeye biscuits growing up.

[Joe Button]

Wait, what?

[Big Mona]

What?

[Joe Button]

You never had a. Oh, okay. You scared me. No, no, no.

[Ice]

I. I'd survived high school for Popeye's

[Amani]

Biscuits on Jamaica Avenue.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, there we go. There we go.

[Ice]

And they used to be lightning fluffy.

[Big Mona]

Those biscuits are not the ones they sell now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, no, none of this shit is the same.

[Ice]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

None of it.

[Joe Button]

The McDonald's vid that originally caused all of this fuss. When I saw it the first time, I watched it on mute, and then I recorded the part, and then I went home and I listen to it. Boy, is so much funnier with the sound. I wish people would have told me that guy got up there and called the food a product. A product.

[Ice]

Product.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Our new product, not our new burger.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Big Mona]

And he chewed it and just stored it up There.

[Ice]

I don't think I Like, you know, when they. Like a chipmunk or some squirrel.

[Big Mona]

And the thing about it is, it's a commercial. And you know that everybody wants to see you eat this. And you still want. You funny boy. That's crazy. He sits that there and he never.

[Parks]

Maybe he's on the zip.

[Ice]

Or maybe he's a vegetarian.

[Big Mona]

That could be true.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Or maybe he know what it is.

[Big Mona]

He know his pigeon ass. Like, what the fuck?

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the thing. The McDonald's dude took a very small bite. And he got clowned, of course, because he's the CEO. And why you taking such a small bite? Then Burger King CEO, he started a trend. The Burger King CEO, CEO took a bite of the burger. Then the Wendy CEO took a bite of the Baconator. And then a W. Who. I don't know how the y' all got in the.

[Big Mona]

They still exist down south here?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they have, but they have their food. Especially truck stops.

[Big Mona]

Truck stops at those rest stops. They're there a lot too.

[Ice]

Wait, you used to truck drive? You ain't never seen him?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Bro, I was.

[Joe Button]

He still gotta see them.

[Big Mona]

That's why he never liked lot lizards. Focus, Right?

[Joe Button]

So then the A. W guy came and took a bite of the burger. And some of y' all on the Internet put all four of these pictures together. So I had no choice but to conclude the following. White people don't take big bites of burgers.

[Parks]

Speak for yourself.

[Joe Button]

The Burger King dude thought he was taking a big bite of the burger. Like, to really show him. And I was like, that was still a bite. That ain't a big burger. The Baconator, which I know is a good burger. He didn't take the biggest bite of that. Like, black people, when the burger is good, gotta fall off of this. Your fingers got the sauce and shit on it. You gotta wipe your mouth. You need a napkin.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Every bite you need a napkin.

[Joe Button]

They wasn't napkin up at all.

[Ice]

I need to check in with Parks on this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

In your white experience, his family comes from a restaurant. Restaurants, though, so they eat bigger.

[Big Mona]

He's 66 and he got lips.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Stop talking about different. Because don't talk about grim husband on

[Big Mona]

time all every day that I don't give. What's going on. He going right over there and go snibble on that lasagna from last night.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Big Mona]

That's a big man.

[Parks]

I have needs.

[Amani]

What you alluding to is white experience, though.

[Ice]

I was going to ask about the bites.

[Parks]

Oh, no. I'm going to eat a McDonald's burger. Like a bite at a little ass burger. Yeah, that's not even a burger.

[Ice]

Yeah, it's not.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Do you bites tops.

[Parks]

I can't speak for the rest of my.

[Big Mona]

Your white brothers.

[Joe Button]

Do y' all think that white people's taste buds are the same as black people's taste buds?

[Amani]

No.

[Parks]

I can tell you that for fact.

[Big Mona]

I don't know how, though. I don't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Give them some salt.

[Joe Button]

You'll see.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's spicy,

[Big Mona]

but I feel like. I feel like whenever I've ever. When white people eat it, they enjoy it so they taste. Well, there's nothing wrong with it because when it's seasoned right, they like it. They just don't like.

[Joe Button]

I don't.

[Big Mona]

I don't know why people that say, oh, this is too spicy for me. They love collard greens and they like how we eat.

[Parks]

Like sometimes. Sometimes they say, yo, this is spicy.

[Big Mona]

Oh, behind our backs. When you take that home, it's like, oh, gotta eat this shit.

[Ice]

Sylvia's don't make it to the crib.

[Joe Button]

My mouth is on fire.

[Parks]

Still doesn't have any raisins.

[Big Mona]

Park's the only real white out. Nobody wouldn't have told us that. Butt parks, bro. Appreciate it.

[Parks]

Give you a little behind the scenes.

[Big Mona]

Yeah, they be talking about our food

[Joe Button]

like we talk about theirs behind the hood.

[Big Mona]

Who the uses that much coloring seasoning on deviled eggs? Hun.

[Parks]

Perfectly good by itself.

[Big Mona]

Yo, our devil eggs be done the up all this pet PR on the

[Joe Button]

top and I ain't going to hold you. Mark had that kickback at his house for the super bowl or some event. I ate 97 deviled eggs.

[Ice]

It was delicious, though.

[Joe Button]

If a deviled egg is good, I'm eating 30, 38 of them.

[Big Mona]

But would you eat the. Do you eat special ones, deep fried ones with crab meat, ones with shrimp, or you just like them plain?

[Joe Button]

That's a lot. Okay, that's a lot.

[Big Mona]

I like deviled eggs, so I like. That's what I mean. I like devil eggs. So I like different kinds too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I maybe would, but I don't want. I feel like deviled eggs is another one of them shits where it sounds very simple, but if you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna try to come put. It's like people that can't make Mac and cheese. Some people. So now they're making lobster Mac and cheese. No, no, slow down. But if it's a good. Whatever y' all talking About I'll definitely try.

[Big Mona]

Right, right, right, right. I'm a devil egg person too. I'll go way too overboard.

[Parks]

Some people do too much with some that you don't gotta do too much on.

[Amani]

Like pizza. I feel like way pizza you can

[Parks]

get a little crazy.

[Big Mona]

You could get crazy with pizza.

[Joe Button]

You still champagne? What is that like a lasagna?

[Amani]

Your pizza like no.

[Big Mona]

Oxtail pizza is amazing. Pizza is one of the best things that they have brought to us in the last five years. Yeah, pizza.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

The fact that y' all don't like, like that's what the we eat and it's super popular.

[Ice]

I don't eat.

[Joe Button]

I'm not eating. I sure good.

[Parks]

I would a heartbeat. Pizza's like soup. You can damn near just throw some on there. You got in the fridge and Facts.

[Big Mona]

Facts. Yeah. That's how I look at it.

[Ice]

Joe, you questioned the bonafides of churches. You were like, you don't know if they up to the level to be. Speaking of Popeyes. Is Popeyes for you like the top tier of fast food?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fast food or chicken?

[Ice]

Either.

[Parks]

Or fast food? Chicken.

[Joe Button]

Chicken. I'm too woke to say that any fast food is top tier.

[Parks]

But no, by woke you mean elitist or that. And I think it's fine to be elitist. But fast food.

[Ice]

What about.

[Joe Button]

About health?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Oh, God, no, no, I don't, I don't. I don't really with Popeyes. I'm a KFC person.

[Joe Button]

Figures. That tracks. Oh, it absolutely tracks.

[Big Mona]

Like really say to that.

[Ice]

It's like I don't even know you.

[Amani]

Good.

[Joe Button]

The is that it's chicken product.

[Ice]

So. So like there's a fast food.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a product.

[Ice]

There's like all the fast foods you like at fast Food Food Fest. I mean or Fried Chicken Fest.

[Big Mona]

You think you know a person.

[Guest or Reporter]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And there's a KFC there and a Popeyes and the Bojangles and the churches, all that. And you go in the kfc.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, I'm just saying if it's KFC and Popeyes, I'm gonna choose kfc.

[Joe Button]

Do you live by one?

[Big Mona]

Yeah, because they're very rare. They're few and far between.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I travel.

[Ice]

Eat some.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I eat kfc.

[Joe Button]

You live by kfc?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's not right by me.

[Joe Button]

Do you get a time but around 5 minute drive?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

15.

[Parks]

We're not going to slay Taco Bell.

[Big Mona]

Do you get a Taco Bell? Do you get a taco too?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, I don't call Taco Bell no more. What?

[Big Mona]

Cuz Taco Bell. KFC is one thing now. You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, not the ones that they're. They're separate.

[Big Mona]

Oh, okay. I don't even.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There's still some that are separate.

[Big Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you live in the hood. Hood. Y' all live in the hood.

[Amani]

I ain't see a KFC in a minute now I'm thinking about it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, fight back, G. Yeah, take that.

[Amani]

I ain't said KFC in a while. We just had mad crown fries. That's about it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

There you go.

[Ice]

You got him on the.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. We about to get in for some Patreon.

[Ice]

I try to tell you. I can see the design.

[Joe Button]

Somebody gotta go be on point, man.

[Ice]

Got this in front of a crown fried chicken.

[Amani]

I love to put my tools in at the car wash, man.

[Big Mona]

Insane, this saying. Crown fries.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What's the best fries?

[Big Mona]

I like the sweet potato pies.

[Ice]

McDonald's, McDonald's.

[Big Mona]

I like me a pie.

[Ice]

And they're not as good as they used to be, but McDonald's, McDonald's fries, to me, still the best. And you know who's second? Checkers.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I got checkers. Is one checkers.

[Big Mona]

And the fact that checkers are annoying. It's annoying.

[Joe Button]

Five guys got them all wiped down on God.

[Big Mona]

But you can't do that.

[Joe Button]

That's potatoes. Yeah, that's a cheat code, actually.

[Big Mona]

You can't put that in the Taco

[Parks]

Bell shits with the cheese fries.

[Big Mona]

Taco Bell fries, nacho cheese fries. Amazing.

[Joe Button]

And nobody knows you.

[Ice]

Keep it.

[Parks]

I like them. Oh, you're right.

[Ice]

You're right.

[Parks]

Okay, my bad.

[Big Mona]

People don't know that between us, Taco Bell has new nacho fries that are amazing. On God. You don't know nothing about it, cuz. Y' all are dumb. Straight up. They good as.

[Joe Button]

Look at my boy. Do you live near Taco Bell?

[Big Mona]

No, I don't. No, I don't. I live near Starbucks.

[Joe Button]

They hip to my little jokes. Taco Bell, man. Anyway.

[Big Mona]

Nah, come on.

[Joe Button]

What else? No, stop.

[Parks]

I love.

[Joe Button]

No, come on, bro.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's been a long time since I

[Parks]

take it for a spin. You miss it out?

[Joe Button]

Never that.

[Big Mona]

And it's the thing. I'm not everyday person. I don't even think Chipotle is all it.

[Ice]

Like.

[Big Mona]

I'm not all that overrated. Taco Bell is like a must.

[Joe Button]

I don't with that either.

[Ice]

I with Chipotle heavy.

[Joe Button]

When I really want to deteriorate. Deteriorate my sex system. I do White Castle. That get it done.

[Ice]

That'll do it.

[Parks]

Top of the list.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get it done right there quick.

[Parks]

That right out you a White Castle

[Big Mona]

is not started here, cuz y' all always mention it. I can't even tell you what it tastes like.

[Joe Button]

No White Castle two times a year.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

White Castle is going to get it

[Joe Button]

done just twice a year.

[Ice]

Oh, that's a.

[Joe Button]

That's maybe even once a year. You're going to. You're going to get that. That. That White Castle urge. That too.

[Big Mona]

And all they sell is sliders, right, y'?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All.

[Joe Button]

Fried clams. Yeah. He ain't lying.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Fried clams?

[Big Mona]

Are you serious?

[Joe Button]

They got fish.

[Parks]

Yeah, fish sandwich.

[Big Mona]

Chicken.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Chicken rings.

[Joe Button]

You shouldn't get them.

[Big Mona]

But I've only had White Castle, like freezer food, like from the supermarket.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's the same shit.

[Big Mona]

And in North Philly. It was the only White Castle in North Philly. I grew up right next to it. And we never ate it. I never had it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Y' all gonna judge me?

[Joe Button]

We do.

[Parks]

You're right, Kazuh.

[Big Mona]

Not me.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for mad other shit. The clams having nothing to do with food. Yeah, clams for white cats.

[Parks]

Castle, you are now roast man. The clams from White.

[Joe Button]

White Castle.

[Big Mona]

No, he gets him.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So I had him.

[Big Mona]

Okay, listen. Like it.

[Parks]

You just playing with rolling dice. Playing fast and loose.

[Joe Button]

They don't know what it is. A White Castle. That's nasty.

[Amani]

Holy cow.

[Big Mona]

I know they a dollar. I know they on the value meals.

[Joe Button]

I know they. Are you eating a White Castle clans with a vasectomy.

[Amani]

You even need the vasectomy.

[Joe Button]

Let's just take away the. Yeah. Wor.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Holy it. Listen, I had another topic. I don't remember. I don't remember.

[Ice]

Joe, I think it's time we come to terms with something.

[Parks]

Megan Fox got ass.

[Ice]

That's even better than what I had.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She does.

[Parks]

She might have got her some ass.

[Joe Button]

Don't need to Google that.

[Parks]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead.

[Big Mona]

So fat.

[Ice]

Just for. Just for the.

[Big Mona]

Ain't nothing like a donkey, man. Oh, that was. Yeah, she got a fat ass.

[Ice]

No, I knew what she was saying. She said it like first person donkey.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No, she do it. Look.

[Joe Button]

All right. Where'd y' all see Megan Fox new ass?

[Parks]

It got retweeted on the timeline, so I had to take a look.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay. Google Megan Fox.

[Parks]

You could try that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that might do it.

[Big Mona]

If you put in Megan. Megan Fox is going.

[Ice]

I'm sure on Twitter, if you just take Megan Fox, you'll be fine.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's gonna be the first thing it pops up.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's not the right search.

[Amani]

I was looking for

[Parks]

different Megan Fox.

[Joe Button]

Definitely a different me Fox. One the only fans tried to try to find it. Not the whole room trying to google Megan Fox.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Trying to find. To show them real quick.

[Joe Button]

You see it?

[Ice]

This joint, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amani]

Be the angle.

[Ice]

It's angles.

[Parks]

Oh, it is angles.

[Joe Button]

Stop it, man. Her ass is fat. No, it is not.

[Big Mona]

That's not a bad ass. No, I mean, you always will know more than me. Y' all actually them, so, you know,

[Joe Button]

I mean, I don't think that's a badass, but that is a nice picture.

[Ice]

It's a great picture, but it's just angles. It's just angles and I don't know. Yeah. From this picture, I don't see.

[Parks]

Yeah, good picture.

[Ice]

It's a great picture.

[Joe Button]

Great picture.

[Ice]

Yeah. Actually, I'm. I'mma call on that. Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nah, she's still fine.

[Joe Button]

So it's okay. Congrats.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What you had.

[Ice]

Well, I was saying it was time for us to come to terms that we may have been a little hasty in this Britney Spears conversation.

[Parks]

Oh, bro. Yeah. The Internet be wrong about shit.

[Ice]

So for those that don't know, Britney Spears, a couple days ago, caught a driving under the Internet.

[Parks]

Let's backtrack it.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Parks]

Like a week ago, she got $200 million for her back catalog.

[Big Mona]

Yes, she did.

[Parks]

And then within five business days, apparently she was celebrating, she caught a DWI or dui.

[Ice]

Dui In North California.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Let me just ask y', all, you get 200 mil today?

[Parks]

Yeah, for sure. In fairness.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Think about it.

[Joe Button]

Get 200 grand today. Might have to take this El Dorado for a spin. But what were we wrong about? All right, so she was drunk driving and she got some money. And she looks like she may be

[Ice]

a little alcohol and drugs in her system, according to the latest reports.

[Joe Button]

Are y' all saying that. Are you saying that she should still be under the conservatorship?

[Parks]

It made that up in the worst thing for her is all I'm saying.

[Big Mona]

No, y', all, she didn't have any

[Mark Lamar Hill]

DWIs while under the conservative because she

[Big Mona]

wasn't allowed to hold keys. Listen, it's too soon to say, okay? Now she buying keys and she's a grown ass woman. All right. One glass of wine. Xanax sometimes, you know what I mean?

[Parks]

I don't think it was one glass of wine.

[Big Mona]

Well, that's what we wanna assume till

[Ice]

it reports her out, based on that field. Sobriety test. She had a Few.

[Joe Button]

I think that's her family's fault, though. Like, if anybody would've just seen her TikTok dance videos, they wouldn't have gave her car keys.

[Amani]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

That's all I'm saying.

[Big Mona]

What did they do to Britney?

[Joe Button]

Who, Justin Timberlake?

[Big Mona]

No, that family.

[Parks]

I read an article the other day that said that he doesn't want that footage to come out. He's like fighting. Fighting. Make sure it don't come out. I thought he would his freestyle some.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

He's been.

[Joe Button]

He's really fighting that. Like a serious thing.

[Parks]

Oh, so we need that. Yeah, I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

You know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You know, it's heating.

[Joe Button]

It's some in bombs in there. It's some in bombs in there.

[Parks]

Something. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Some kind of nigger.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yo, why is he greater than First Nations?

[Ice]

Who knew? You're fucking rich little over here.

[Joe Button]

Elliot. You've misused him all this time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

All I gotta do is show us the cops that arrested him. That'll tell me everything. Cause if he's mad and you know who I am, you fucking. It'll come out. That'd be great justice for Janet.

[Ice]

For real.

[Big Mona]

For sure, for sure. Little fucker like Justin.

[Amani]

I like Justin too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Like my favorite little.

[Ice]

I'm not a fan.

[Big Mona]

I like this little wigger face.

[Ice]

After. After punk. When I saw like the real him come out when the police showed up.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah.

[Ice]

I lost all respect.

[Parks]

Oh, wait, what he doing?

[Joe Button]

Punk?

[Ice]

He was just a white man when he got punked. He just went. He, he, he was like full white. He was like. He went full white when he thought he was getting stopped by the police. And then as soon as Ashley came. Oh, you got me, dog. Blah. He went right back to. Yeah. I was like.

[Big Mona]

When he was like, I think you have the wrong person, Leon.

[Ice]

And what he did to Janet, of course, that's my real.

[Parks]

Of course.

[Big Mona]

I mean, come on.

[Joe Button]

And just some of his NSYNC outfits, like early on when he was trying to be white. Usher.

[Amani]

That Justified album and future Sex Love sound.

[Parks]

Yeah. And 2020

[Mark Lamar Hill]

classics.

[Joe Button]

Three classics. Look at y'.

[Guest or Reporter]

All.

[Joe Button]

Who else has got some classics? Know what's funny about y'?

[Amani]

All?

[Joe Button]

Classic talk and that y' all were really spirited about. Y' all named all the. The best people. Like the best people would have put it. Yeah, yeah. Couple rappers y' all left off that didn't have a classic. I get it. Your personal relationships.

[Big Mona]

I'm getting my monologue ready.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's right.

[Big Mona]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

You know, maybe a couple people did just Walk in there and see you laid out. Too soon, Joe. Too soon.

[Big Mona]

Hold you.

[Joe Button]

The more I'm sitting next to this, hey, Phelps, I get it. Like, hey, Phelps, they got to take your time, right?

[Ice]

When certain people have seizures.

[Joe Button]

PH went to the store, was stopping at yellow lights.

[Big Mona]

You don't have to go rest of your leg.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. Anyway, what else, what else, what else?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Who was left off?

[Joe Button]

Are we done with Megan Fox's ass? Oh, who else left off the list is.

[Ice]

Yeah,

[Joe Button]

Big Sean.

[Parks]

I don't know if W has a

[Joe Button]

classic

[Ice]

you'll be hearing.

[Parks]

I love the album About Nothing, but I don't know if it's universally heraldic.

[Amani]

Classic, not for music reasons.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I think the album About Nothing is a classic.

[Parks]

For me. It is.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think it is a classic.

[Amani]

I don't think it's universally received that way, though.

[Ice]

That's not my measure. There's people who. You know what I mean?

[Big Mona]

Who.

[Ice]

Who have classes that the industry just don't see or don't know enough about or don't like to highlight because of politics. But to me, that's. That's a classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think Wale has a classic album and a classic mixtape. More about Nothing's a classic mixtape, y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Joe Button]

Once y' all do the to me thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm not saying to me.

[Joe Button]

It ends the classic conversation to me.

[Parks]

Absolutely right.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But universally, no, he doesn't. But it's also not because of the music. It's not because of the album. It's not because the songs aren't there. It's because of how he's viewed by the general public.

[Joe Button]

Captain Durag.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Wait, am I wrong?

[Joe Button]

He doesn't have a classic, but it's not because of the music.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

We talking about people that don't have a classic because the music.

[Ice]

Or.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Or you just don't have an album that's that good to be.

[Joe Button]

You just don't have it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But if you have an album, that that's good, but people just will overlook it because they just don't fuck with you. That's a different argument.

[Joe Button]

I think Wale has a few cult classics. I don't see the. And that's My Man. That's Cult classic. A classic is a classic. Like you don't have a classic. Yes. Come sit with me. We in Cancun. Hey, there's a bunch of us that we ain't got one. We super. We super nice, but we ain't got one.

[Amani]

I think Everything is A Lot is

[Joe Button]

going to age really well. Yeah, I agree with that.

[Amani]

Yeah, I agree with that. Well, we'll see.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. What's up My end up being my favorite Wally album.

[Ice]

I think it's my.

[Amani]

I think it's.

[Ice]

Which one? This most recent. Yeah, I love it. I can't stop playing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I love this album. It's top three for me, though.

[Ice]

Every time something new come out, I go back to this when I get tired of it.

[Joe Button]

I think it's too much hype. Put on classic albums. Like if you got seven odd albums,

[Parks]

that's not a bad thing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think that's kind of flying.

[Parks]

And some of those. Some of the people on the list, particularly off top my. I had Method man and Andre and Black thought it's a little disingenuous to put them on the list when they have classic group as a part of a group. Like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And other people, like, I look at putting fab on that list.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't have a classic album, but I got classic mixtape series. You know what I'm saying? Okay, cool. I don't have the album. I have other classic. Where I got. I got my classic somewhere else.

[Amani]

You got classic songs?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, I got classic songs.

[Joe Button]

You said classic series is as in plural.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Classic. Classic series. Soul tape I'm talking about.

[Amani]

Okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a classic series. Not.

[Joe Button]

All right, I was gonna ask what

[Mark Lamar Hill]

the other one was.

[Amani]

Some people like the is no competition

[Joe Button]

joints, sure, but not classic.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Not classic.

[Joe Button]

Not classic. The soul tape is the one.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, that's the one.

[Joe Button]

And this is. Pardon. Instead of giving us a new soul

[Mark Lamar Hill]

tape, you're not gonna do a new soul tape? Anyway, I don't think he would do that.

[Amani]

Anyway.

[Joe Button]

Do something.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I want something bad.

[Amani]

But he put out a new song today, actually. Compilation project.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's just him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I just didn't even know that drop.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I didn't know that drop.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I sure ain't know the new fab.

[Ice]

Did you know the new fan drop this.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's level. Hey, to answer you, hell no, I ain't doing s. Put some song out that was on the soundtrack. I played three seconds of that and you could just tell soundtrack music.

[Parks]

Yeah, you can. You can.

[Amani]

It's called reshaping the culture.

[Parks]

The era of classic soundtracks is unfortunately.

[Joe Button]

Somebody let me hit his new fab.

[Parks]

I can't find it.

[Amani]

It's on reshaping the culture, Volume 1.

[Parks]

Where the is that?

[Joe Button]

We don't even know what reshaping the culture is, dog. Like YouTube music for us. Get a television.

[Parks]

That ain't even on his page. So.

[Amani]

Yeah, it's buried.

[Joe Button]

It's buried.

[Amani]

It's out.

[Joe Button]

It exists.

[Parks]

Salute.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't. We ain't going to play none of. I can't find it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I can't find it.

[Joe Button]

B dot.

[Ice]

I got it.

[Joe Button]

Are you on, like, the dark web of music?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Some shit that was sitting.

[Big Mona]

Do you.

[Joe Button]

Nah.

[Amani]

It exists, man.

[Joe Button]

Is it good?

[Amani]

It's okay.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the. Never forget it all that. Yeah. I thought you had some heat line, though.

[Amani]

No, no, it wasn't no heat. It wasn't heat. It was cool.

[Joe Button]

Got it, got it, got it. All right. Now I'm done with music. I promise no more classic album talking.

[Ice]

Well, can you go back to Captain Durag? Cause you mentioned him just now.

[Joe Button]

Captain Durag. Captain Durag is a character from a cartoon. Let me get the name of the cartoon. Hey, AJ hey, aj hey, AJ Is the.

[Ice]

Which is a good show.

[Joe Button]

It's a character that Disney introduced during Black History Month that seemed to have all the black people in an uproar. And it's a black guy and a durag. And a durag is what gives him his powers. Boy. They killed this guy.

[Ice]

His mask. It's his cape.

[Amani]

I feel like it's only right.

[Joe Button]

And now that you do that, you do got a couple waves spinning up there. You got a couple be not his kind of waves. I ain't got waves.

[Big Mona]

Yeah,

[Amani]

here we go. Continue.

[Joe Button]

I wait is on for the rest of the mark. This is me and him. Anyway, everybody was in an uproar about this, and I didn't rush to bring it to the pod because I kind of thought it was dope.

[Ice]

I like it.

[Joe Button]

I just want to know where y' all stand on a action figure or superhero called Captain Durag being introduced on a black cartoon during black history.

[Amani]

But it was created by a black woman, too.

[Joe Button]

Black man. I thought the football player.

[Amani]

I think a black woman is involved in this as well.

[Big Mona]

Is it a Disney.

[Joe Button]

But before we knew that any black people were involved, they was getting tore up. And not that when we learned they still got tore up once we learned it was black people. But we just looked at it a bit little.

[Ice]

A little different.

[Joe Button]

How do y' all feel about a superhero called Captain Durag? Is it offensive or should it be?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's the woman that created Camille.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You didn't know that?

[Big Mona]

It depends how it's done. Off, just listen. Hearing it. Nothing wrong with it. Off, just hearing it. But it's also. It's always how it's done. And because black people, we're hypersensitive. To because is offensive. Sometimes it feels like. Like the. With H and M and the monkeys and this. You know what I mean? Always feels like somebody's trying to take a little jab at you or degrade you or put you down. To me, Captain Durag is so, like, obviously ridiculous that I would think that it wasn't to be that way or whatever. But again, it's all about how they do it, how they play it.

[Ice]

You know, a lot of the backlash is that is centered around this idea that it plays on negative stereotypes of black people, including this durag itself, which is often associated with, you know, lawlessness, homelessness, poverty.

[Joe Button]

Really.

[Amani]

I just want to make my head waved.

[Ice]

I'm a smooth criminal.

[Joe Button]

This nigga is wilding.

[Ice]

I'm telling you what the people say. I'm representing their position. It's not my position. I love to do rag and no, honestly, that's the interesting thing. It's not just white people saying this. A lot of time it'd be upper middle class black people. It'd be the Martha's Vineyard blacks who are embarrassed by this representation of blackness. They're like. And it's on Disney Junior. So they're like, you know, if Disney's gonna bring a black superhero in, that the superhero should affirm the best of us. I don't. This is not my position. But that's what they're saying. I am on the opposite side of it. I actually love when you get an anti hero. Cause it's an ode to, like, blaxploitation is what they were trying to do with the character. And I like having a hero that wears a durag that fights crime and is steeped in blackness. You know, in black culture, I think it's dope.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Ice]

But black people getting back by how black people look in front of white people. And to me, that's a problem.

[Big Mona]

It is a problem. Cause then you get to always comparing it or what do white people think? And me personally, as a black person, I don't give a fuck about what white people think, about what I do, what I like, what I wear, what I eat. At the end of the day, for me, as a mom, my first kid is watching Disney. And then we get into these conversations where I would talk to her about black pride and about our history. The same thing, the way I was raised.

[Ice]

And.

[Big Mona]

And she, no, mommy, I'm not black. I'm pink. See? But you watch Disney all day long where every princess is pink, Then you. It's just. It's an automatic Thing all the way back to the test where they show the babies the dark baby and the white baby, and they'll pick the white baby over the dark baby. So for me, my kids love Disney. I like the fact that there's another nigga that they could watch besides Tiana. Cause that's all we had at a point. Teyana, as far as on Disney.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I know what you mean.

[Big Mona]

You know what I mean? Cause I'm a Disney mom. I took my kids to Disney World. I plan on going next year. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I don't know as a.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Like, I got two boys in the house, they wear durags. So to see that on TV as a superhero fire, I don't have a problem with it.

[Amani]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't disagree with your point, Mark, about black people feel about how they look in front of white people, but also with that. With this Captain Durag shit. Like, if we know something comes is for us by us, we view it differently than. Than if they were to come up with it.

[Ice]

Exactly.

[Amani]

Context is important. Do you feel they have the same position, like with the whole Atlanta Hawks thing with the Magic City hoodie?

[Ice]

Yeah, we went into that last episode and yeah, all of us support the culture, and all of us support the right to celebrate that culture. I had a different position than a lot of people up here in that. I think it one. I think it's not just a good business move because I think it's gonna alienate part of the audience. But I also just didn't love. Magic City's a very particular thing. But the underworld of strip clubs, if you celebrate that without a lot of criticality, I think what ends up happening is it smuggles in all the ugly side of it. And people don't have the understanding of the distinction between what Magic City is and what all the ones on Metropolitan Avenue are. That ain't Magic City if you know it like.

[Amani]

Cause it's like Magic City's black culture, so's the durag is part of back culture. So it's like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, really quick on this. On this topic. We had a deep dive on at the last part. I loved our conversation that we had on it. It was just one small piece that we left out. Like, we might have gotten too deep with the talk. The Atlanta Hawks fans have been screaming since Kaminga got there. Thank you, Warriors. Thank you, Warriors. Because Kaminga has been going crazy.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

The warriors, before they traded him, put out a statement. And the statement said, Kaminga has a very large family who was in the back, eating all the wings.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wow.

[Ice]

That's wild.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That is wild.

[Joe Button]

I think the Atlanta Hawks wings thing is just shooting at the Warriors.

[Ice]

If that's the case, I mean, they could have done Dugan's, which is the best wing spot in Atlanta. But I do at least appreciate the joke, and I appreciate that gives me more context. I still don't like it, but that makes me feel better. And again, Dugan's got the best wings in Atlanta.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

If I'm tapping in the culture and shooting back, I killed two birds with one stone.

[Joe Button]

The shooting aspect, I loved.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I love it.

[Joe Button]

I like that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I like the Magic City aspect because again, you can highlight Magic City without doing it as a strip club.

[Ice]

Club.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They're not doing that. I'm just saying that they're not.

[Joe Button]

It's a restaurant also.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It's a restaurant as well, and they're highlighting it as a restaurant and as part a major part of Atlanta culture, which it is.

[Joe Button]

It's whatever we present as the restaurants on uber eats got 90 different storefronts for the same.

[Amani]

Wait, wait. Magic City. Like, kids could go to Magic City. Like they have a separate location as a restaurant. Or are you talking about within the actual.

[Joe Button]

No, within club. Yeah, but kids can't go there. Yeah, well, I don't know their rules at noon.

[Amani]

No, I don't go strip clubs no more.

[Joe Button]

I used to.

[Amani]

I used to be in Perfections a couple times. Perfections, Remember that?

[Joe Button]

I do. Good old Perfections.

[Parks]

There something else now?

[Amani]

It's a. I think it's like a storage facility.

[Joe Button]

I stopped going over there after people kept dying.

[Parks]

It was a good place. It was a good place for people, you know? I mean, this.

[Joe Button]

You know what's funny? Like, I'm black. I got so much trauma from the hood. It ain't that people dying scared me away. It's that the killers had too clean of an exit from Perfection.

[Parks]

Right on the highway, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That highway was too close to the highway.

[Joe Button]

You could park your car and it was a little side block over there. No, you could get clapped and that would never be caught.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That's how I felt about our other Jersey spot. That was on right there on 1 in 9. Like, it was right on the highway, bro. Anything could happen right there.

[Joe Button]

And I try not to go places where they can kill me and get away with.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get right up out.

[Joe Button]

Like, I want there to be a case. Sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You'll never see that car.

[Amani]

Joe.

[Joe Button]

Want justice if I go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You goddamn right.

[Joe Button]

I mean, find them. I don't think that's a lot to ask for. No updates on this Nancy Guthrie stuff?

[Parks]

Still not. Well, they said that I think they tied the. The glove to a restaurant or something, but that's not saying.

[Joe Button]

Didn't they make a memorial now? Right. They just coming to grips with it. Damn. That's got to be tough. Yeah, that has got to be tough. I didn't bring it up to get

[Big Mona]

us more, but they ain't spend no money.

[Joe Button]

Right up the end, they had a reward.

[Amani]

It was like, 90 Bitcoin or something like that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did they pay it?

[Amani]

I don't think so.

[Big Mona]

Right. I was just saying they didn't lose no bread, right?

[Joe Button]

No, because nobody came forward with a tip that was going to lead to something and help.

[Ice]

That's incredible. Yeah.

[Big Mona]

I'm a cup half full.

[Joe Button]

I get missing. Y' all better pull up for that reward.

[Big Mona]

So.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did you hear that?

[Joe Button]

Listening what you say.

[Big Mona]

I just. As your friend, I know the type of person you are, that you wouldn't want us to waste money in that way.

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Ice]

I don't think he feels that way.

[Big Mona]

Because we don't know if you're alive or not. Like, you know what I mean? If they can't show us proof of life, we ain't giving up the 300 grand.

[Amani]

You want to send his finger In a box?

[Parks]

300?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You hit more than the 300.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She said I'm a cup half full type of person.

[Big Mona]

I'm talking about Nancy and them like they didn't get mommy back, but they ain't. You mean anybody lose no bait?

[Joe Button]

Prayers for. For n. Prayers for the Guthrie family from us.

[Big Mona]

JBP we are. Prayers are with you.

[Joe Button]

We hope that they find. We hope that they find her.

[Parks]

Indeed, like, alive.

[Big Mona]

We holding on to hope.

[Joe Button]

I mean, hope is. Is grim at this point. Now, I don't give a. I. I miss him for 30 days. Y' all niggas better still be. Y' all better.

[Big Mona]

You want us to give up the money regardless of proof of life? Say it now on camera so we know.

[Joe Button]

I want y' all to have the money ready.

[Big Mona]

No, fuck that.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

No proof of life card.

[Big Mona]

You pay them without proof of life. Yes or no?

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. If there's a. If there's a glimmer that. That will lead to my safe return. Pay him. Pay it. So you know enough scammers and boosters. Yeah, pay it.

[Big Mona]

All right. I got you.

[Joe Button]

Pay it.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

How you feel? What if they snatch you up, man?

[Big Mona]

Don't waste that money, man. Y' all know how I am. I done around. Got the wrestling and the killer killed me day one. Try to get myself out. Now this nigga beat me in the head. I'm gone.

[Joe Button]

I won't put money on it, but I will give Phelps a weapon.

[Amani]

So if you go missing, Joe, you want niggas to be like makai fife and paid in full in the car, like crying, we need you back.

[Joe Button]

Well, hopefully headed to get the money that's gonna lead to me coming back. Yeah.

[Amani]

Gotcha.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, definitely. My memory is too bad to remember scenes from classic movies, so I'm ashamed of my.

[Big Mona]

Now look, Joe's going, guys, Joe's going. I think we can still get the pie. Keep the pie.

[Joe Button]

I know. I know you. If you think Ian is going to leave me out there with this cast. Oh, oh, this. If you think Ian gonna look at this cast and say, hold it down, we lost him, y'.

[Amani]

All.

[Joe Button]

You got another thing. Ian will be at the. The Swiss bank, the Rothschild's Bank. He ain't gonna go get that.

[Big Mona]

Words are. Words are powerful. Let's not even play it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we don't want nobody to get missing on a work day. Yeah, but these will find an excuse to not come to work. Yo got kidnapped.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yo, yo, call Joe. I'm gonna give you the phone. Tell him you all got me kidnapped. I can't come in today.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you better get kidnapped when my bank is open, I'll tell you that. Because if you're leaving it to Cash App, you're gonna get this six grand. Grand if it ain't a strip club night. All right, what else is important? What else is important or unimportant?

[Ice]

Can we hit a quick. A couple quick political stories?

[Joe Button]

I. I would love to. All right, y', all, I've been holding this in, but what happened with Jasmine Crockett is really disturbing me out there. Oh, you. What happened? What? You saying something?

[Ice]

I hate this nigga so fucking good. I fucking hate it.

[Joe Button]

Go get your shit off. No, no.

[Ice]

I mean, but that's one of the stories. I mean, I think the biggest, big story first, though, is Kristi Noem getting fired. Head of dhs. The head of the Department of Homeland Security losing her job, being fired by Trump is a big deal. I think it's a victory of sorts. A very tiny, tiny, tiny victory. Cause he's just gonna replace her with somebody else. You know, she already.

[Joe Button]

They replaced her already.

[Ice]

Yeah, and he's just as bad. He's a former MMA fighter. He's not looking for. He's not looking for quality here.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What are just getting his people.

[Ice]

You know what he do?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Big Mona]

As long as you are going do what he says, you win. You got it? I don't give a if your last job chick fil a you are hired.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

OKFC he don't give us.

[Ice]

And it's not even any shame.

[Big Mona]

It's no shame about it or nothing. It's just like, yeah, that's my he's hired.

[Amani]

Right?

[Ice]

And. And you know, address that's registered for this company.

[Guest or Reporter]

Do you know where that address is? Is there a problem with this contract?

[Ice]

I'll tell you about it.

[Guest or Reporter]

Madam Secretary. The address registered to a political opera. Madam Secretary the company. And then I'll give you an opportunity to respond. The company is registered to a political operative in Virginia.

[Joe Button]

Do you know, just by way of

[Guest or Reporter]

example, whether this company that received $143 million in taxpayer dollars, has it ever

[Ice]

done work for the government before?

[Guest or Reporter]

I don't know.

[Big Mona]

I can't.

[Guest or Reporter]

The answer is it has not. And do you know why we know that?

[Joe Button]

Because it was incorporated eight days.

[Guest or Reporter]

Eight days before this contract went out.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit. You want the American people to believe

[Guest or Reporter]

that this is all above board? That $143 million of taxpayer money just happened to go to this one company

[Ice]

that doesn't have a headquarters, doesn't have

[Guest or Reporter]

a website, has never done work for

[Ice]

the federal government before and is registered

[Joe Button]

apparently or attached to a residence from a political operative.

[Ice]

And of course, one of the subcontractors

[Guest or Reporter]

of that contract, as you can know, is a political firm that's tied to you back when you were governor of South Dakota. The reason why I ask these questions is that this is taxpayer money.

[Joe Button]

I got one more clip. This. This is my man right here. This. This one right here. Queue up the ether be.

[Guest or Reporter]

How do you square that concern for waste, which I share? Spent $220 million running television advertisements that feature you prominently, sir. The president tasked me with getting the message out to the country and to other countries where we were seeing the invasion come from with putting commercials out that told. Told them that if they were in this country illegally that they needed to leave or we would detain them and remove them and they'd not get the chance to come back to America the right way. That has been extremely effective. Ask you to run these advertisements. Is that right? We had that conversation, yes. Before I was put in this position and sworn in and confirmed. And since then as well. Okay. Did you. Did you bid out those service contracts? Yes, they did. They went out to a competitive bid and career officials at the department chose who would do those advertising commercials. And the people that you ended up picking were people who had formerly done your political work back in South Dakota.

[Big Mona]

Is that right?

[Guest or Reporter]

No, that's not correct, sir. Thank you. Idiots. No, it's not, sir. We the individuals who. I believe the careers who they chose were two different media firms. There's been conversation about their subcontractors, but we have no legal authority to look into subcontractors on work like that. Okay. And you're saying that you're testifying. Talk to John approved this ahead of time. Is that my understanding? Testify where you're saying we had conversations about making sure that we were telling people no, ma'. Am.

[Joe Button]

No, ma'.

[Ice]

Am.

[Guest or Reporter]

Sorry to interrupt, but the president approved ahead of time you spending $220 million running TV ads across the country in which you are featured prominently. Yes, sir. We went through the legal processes. Did it correct the president? Yes, he did.

[Ice]

He got it to say it. And that's her job.

[Guest or Reporter]

One thing, Senator, I think would be be helpful to know is how effective that communication.

[Joe Button]

Cleanup time now. Sorry, it's a long clip. I'm letting it play.

[Guest or Reporter]

I mean, I. I personally just. I mean, to me, it puts the president in a terribly awkward spot.

[Joe Button]

That's a great way to word that.

[Guest or Reporter]

And I just. I'm not saying you're not telling the truth. It's just hard for me to believe on the president as I do that you said, Mr. President, here's some ads I've cut and I'm going to spend $220 million. Sheesh. Running them. That he would have agreed to that. I don't think Russ Vogt at OMB would have agreed to that. It's something we have to defend. I'm on the Appropriations Committee. I mean, my research shows that you did not bid the math that you. You pick. In fact, one of the people you picked. The strategy group. I'm sorry. Safe America Media was a company formed 11 days before you picked them and that the strategy group got most of the money. And the head of that is married to your former spokesperson.

[Ice]

I'm.

[Guest or Reporter]

Look, we all have friends who are qualified. I'm just most of us. It troubles me. Quarter fifth to a quarter of a billion dollars. That's their money. When we're scratching forever, Penny, and we're fighting over recession packages, I just can't agree with Madam Secretary. You still running those ads, Senator? I did not have anything to do with picking those contractors. I know politicals at the Department of Homeland Security.

[Joe Button]

I asked you something, lady.

[Guest or Reporter]

Are you a competitive bid process? Are you still running? I think the ads are due to end here in March. I think within a week. The one that is running is focusing on angel families. Have you seen that? It is the one that's talking about. This is our why. This is why we work every, every day is for the angel families and their victims.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm down to move on. You're right, John. I agree.

[Ice]

That's the death of a career right there. There's a few things that made that audio, which is great to hear. So important. One, she's losing goodwill on both sides of the aisle. That's never good for a Republican when you got Republicans grilling you and Democrats grilling you and embarrassed by you and frustrated. Cause it's one thing to kill, but bunch of innocent people, they can live with that. But a lot of politicians can't live with you wasting $223 million.

[Guest or Reporter]

Damn.

[Ice]

Sadly. And that combo will make you unhappy. Make unhappy people on both sides. The other thing is she basically threw Trump under the bus.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She did.

[Ice]

The number one rule of working for

[Big Mona]

Donald Trump is you don't do that shit.

[Ice]

Not only do you not do that, you get under the bus yourself.

[Big Mona]

Right. That's why you're getting the job. And you know that.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Mona]

Like it goes without saying.

[Ice]

Exactly, exactly. So by making it look like Trump authorized this when his whole thing is clean up waste and fraud, drain the swamp, all this shit. And this is a very clear, very clear. You know.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I mean, you talking about companies formed eight to 11 days before they get a bid for hundreds of millions of dollars from the government. They're connected to your people. It's clear. Nepotism. It's clear. It's all those things.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ice]

Cronyism is probably a better word. It's all of that. So when you see that play out, it's indefensible. It makes him look bad. And again, her performance at these hearings is awful.

[Joe Button]

Horrible.

[Ice]

I mean, she doesn't answer questions well. She's getting beat up by again, Democrats and Republicans. She's super combative, some of them. She mocks people. She does exactly what Donald Trump does. And let's be clear. Donald Trump didn't fire her because of how Homeland Security is operating. He didn't fire her because ICE is lawless. A lawless gang that's killing innocent people and, and violating every rule known to man. He fired her because she's making him look bad. And she's making him look.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She Broke cardinal rule number one. Yep.

[Big Mona]

You gotta go on top of the fact that even if she did it the right way, like got the right companies and D, it's still a dumbass idea. We gonna run these commercials and these niggas gonna watch it and go, oh, fuck, Fernando, we have to get out of here. Why the if commercials of them looking like. You know what I mean? They. Because the commercials look like it's for daytime television or for some like, soap opera type of cop show.

[Ice]

That's what she wants.

[Big Mona]

And that was the whole thing.

[Ice]

But she's in them and she's the star.

[Big Mona]

Exactly. But the fact that let's say all that was legally done and done. Right. It's a stupid idea that, that would, would slow anything down with illegals. That illegals will see that in English and think, we gotta get the. You see them guns on them. We gotta get up out of here. That's stupid.

[Ice]

Yeah, it's a bad idea. But. And that's the other thing, Trump. Something like is that these commercials. And that's what he was getting at here, the senator was getting at is, you know, this is self aggrandizement. You spend all this money to make yourself a hero and, you know, and to make your face.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Make you the face of this.

[Ice]

Yeah. Make you the face of everything. And it's. I mean, imagine wanting to be the face of this word.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So, yeah, he got, they gotta, they

[Ice]

gotta clear the rights.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Get the rights.

[Ice]

But Mark Wayne Mullen, I think his name is his new guy. When he's. When they asked Trump about him, he was like, he was actually did a good job. But I really like this guy, you know, basically, he's better. And that scares me because I don't. Because I think Trump believes that. I don't know what better means. It usually means it's gonna be just as evil, but with a much better front, with a much better color.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They know how to play.

[Ice]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

This one knows how to play, which

[Ice]

is gonna be very, very dangerous.

[Big Mona]

This shit is sick.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Big Mona]

We just, it's like, it's horrible to watch this whole fucking thing.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It is.

[Joe Button]

We've done such a phenomenal job that I won't line Mark up with my

[Mark Lamar Hill]

question I was waiting for.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, that was a good question too.

[Ice]

I want to know what it is. Oh, wait, no, I don't. But we gotta pour a little liquor for Jasmine Crockett's campaign. She ran for Senate. She of course, is a member of the House of Representatives right now. And she Ran for a Senate seat in Texas and lost the Democratic primary by, I think, just shy of 200,000 votes.

[Amani]

Is that a landslide?

[Ice]

I mean, she got about 1 million votes. A little over a million. Her opponent got 1.2. So not a landslide, but it was decisive.

[Amani]

Okay.

[Ice]

You know, I mean, it was decisive. I think it was a winnable race. Looking at the numbers, it was very much a winnable race. I think Latino voters were a. If not the deciding factor. They did not vote for her. They did not support her. But when I talked to people on the ground, they say her ground game wasn't great. One lie I do want to dispel, because the Republicans online have been creating this narrative that she should have stayed in the House of Representatives. She reached for her Senate seat, for the Senate seat. She aimed too big and lost. And now she's out of Congress. Like she fucked up kind of thing. That's not what happened. Republicans redrew the districts in Texas so that a Democrat couldn't win the seat anymore. So she ran for Senate to stay in Congress, not to aim up. If she had not done this, she would have been. She would have lost to the Republican in the seat. Cause they've redrawn the district. And that's why California tried to respond by doing the same thing. They're basically rewriting districts so that instead of it being a safe Democratic district, they now lump in Republican voters into the district so that the Democrat can't win anymore. They literally just redraw, draw the lines. So that's what happened. So she lost. I'm curious to know what she does next.

[Amani]

So she's out of politics as of

[Ice]

right now, once her term ends. Yeah, I mean, she still has. She'll play out this term into the midterms, and then we'll see what happens.

[Big Mona]

It sucks for Texas.

[Ice]

Yeah, it does.

[Big Mona]

Hair loss.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

A lot of people thought Texas is turning blue and that she was gonna be a sign of that. Texas will turn blue one day, but I'm not sure it's gonna be the next four to six years.

[Amani]

Put the zero at the end of that, right?

[Ice]

Maybe.

[Joe Button]

Maybe. Yeah.

[Ice]

You might be right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm gonna ask you.

[Ice]

I know.

[Joe Button]

Did you know for real? Yes. So listen, so I've been watching hours and hours and hours and hours of YouTube content surrounding the war, right? Mm. A few things really quick. I am gonna play some clips. Okay. Thing number one, everybody that talks about the Iranians says them niggas is tough facts. Everybody says that they kind of the last people that you wanna fight because a fight is indeed what you would be in four. Everybody said that. What a cool rep to have, huh?

[Ice]

That is dope.

[Joe Button]

Ain't that a dope rep to have? Like, when it comes to war, I don't have a profound point. That's my only point.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

It is, though. So you ain't just gonna stomp over them like you. Like. Like you could do to anybody else.

[Joe Button]

So I'm gonna play this clip from Iran's foreign minister, Abbas, Iraqi. His last name, in case I'm fucking it up, is spelled A, R, A G, H, C, H, I. I'm sure I did. You know it.

[Ice]

That's a tough one.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't know. I can't read anyway. Like the ear. Here, go.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Boots on the ground in Iran.

[Joe Button]

Are.

[Ice]

Are you afraid of a US invasion in your country?

[Joe Button]

No, we are waiting for them.

[Ice]

You. You are waiting for the US military

[Joe Button]

to invade the ground?

[Amani]

Troops.

[Guest or Reporter]

Troops, yes.

[Joe Button]

Because we are confident that we can confront them and that would be a

[Guest or Reporter]

big disaster for them.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Ice]

I love that. Who the fuck.

[Joe Button]

So you're saying that Iran is ready

[Ice]

and willing to take on the US Military?

[Joe Button]

That's what he's saying, everybody. Well, we were ready for this war

[Guest or Reporter]

even more than the previous war. So you can see the quality of

[Joe Button]

our mission, how much they are upgraded

[Guest or Reporter]

after the last war because we learned lots of lessons and we are prepared for any other eventuality, even, you know, a ground invasion. So our soldiers are prepared for any scenario. When I said we are waiting for

[Ice]

them, it didn't mean that we are

[Guest or Reporter]

waiting for continuation of the war.

[Joe Button]

No, what we have prepared ourselves to

[Ice]

confront with any scenario, with any eventuality,

[Joe Button]

any possibility, responsibility, and we know that we can handle that.

[Ice]

Are your allies.

[Parks]

Are your allies Russia and China helping you?

[Ice]

Mind your business.

[Guest or Reporter]

Well, they are supporting us politically and otherwise.

[Joe Button]

Exactly. Like. Like, not yet. Everybody I've seen speak about this say that it could be the beginning of World War iii. They explained to me how, because I'm really bad at geography and I've especially been watching a gentleman named Professor Kiang. I might be fucking that name. He's the guy that predicted three things years ago. He said, A, Trump would win the election, B, he would go to war with Iran, and three, that Iran would win. A lot of people are predicting a win for them. I'm gonna play this last clip and then I'll ask my question. Let's see, where's the clip I am looking for?

[Big Mona]

I think their shit is raggedy.

[Ice]

I'm still Saying that from this map,

[Joe Button]

this war, it is the end of the world. He don't play. This is my man right here. Both sides have the potential to destroy each other. It's really a question of how far do they want to go, Right? We can also say this is almost a game of chicken, okay? We can blow each other up. How far do you want to go? And the problem is this. The problem is that the Iranians are Shia, which believes in martyrdom, and you've killed the religious leader. That means they're tough. So they're willing to go very, very far.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They'll go all the way.

[Joe Button]

He's saying that they're tough. The Ji Xiu treaties are Muslim, but they're materialistic, they love money. And also most of the population are expensive, patriots, foreigners. 90% of Dubai are foreigners. Guess what's going to happen if they suffer? They're going to run away. Okay? So this is not a fair matchup. The big question that people have is, first of all, all the Americans going to use ground troops, because the only way that you can defeat your Iran is by using ground troops.

[Ice]

Okay, that's a big question we'll look

[Joe Button]

at over the next few weeks. Will America send its army, half a million, 2 million soldiers to topple the government? Okay, that's question number one. Question number two, nuclear weapons. If you're losing a war, would you choose to use nuclear weapons? Okay, that's another big question. Question that we have.

[Amani]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

Another big question that we have is who gets involved? Because this situation is so dire that Europe, okay, specifically Germany, France and Britain are talking about entering this war. And guess what? If that happens, it is possible that Russia and China will also enter this war on the side of the Iranians. This is World War 3, okay? Because of the importance of the. Because of the importance of the Middle east, everyone has to get involved at some point. Wow.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

My question is this, Mark, because I don't agree with how these wars start.

[Amani]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

I don't. I don't agree with us being the United States of Israel. I don't agree with us being under the thumb of or in control. I'm not with all that camaraderie Newton Hannity, that fucking Netanyahu and them are doing. I'm not with that. However, if my man goes out and starts a fight at the club and I don't agree with why he started the fight, I still got a ride.

[Ice]

You can't sit at the bar while a man. He's fighting.

[Joe Button]

Not only do I Got a ride. I hope my man wins. Right? Right. My question to you is, do you want us to win this war? Us, as in America, we don't have to agree with why it started or how it got here, but once it's in the thick of it, aren't you or shouldn't you be rooting for a win?

[Big Mona]

Yeah, what the hell?

[Ice]

No.

[Big Mona]

Oh, shit.

[Ice]

Not me. No. No, I don't root for a win. What I root for because I know what a win would mean.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What would it.

[Ice]

A win. Because there's a way that when, as United States, first of all, even the word we is doing very particular work in that sense of right. Because I think about myself in the context of a global community as well. I don't necessarily think of myself just as a citizen of the United States, although I am. But when a lot of us who are even disconnected from the issue say we want to win, what you're thinking about the safety of the troops, the stability of our lives, all that stuff, I want that. But I don't want that to come at the expense of the stability and safety and dignity and the rights of other people. So as I watch this happen, I don't want a win any more than if your homie's fighting. The first thing you want, what you're rooting for, is a resolution.

[Amani]

Facts.

[Ice]

You'd love to come in there, cool this shit down, be like, yo, let's get out of here. Of course.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ice]

That's Plan A.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ice]

You know what I mean? And at every moment, you're hoping, if you're sane, and as you're older and mature, you're hoping cooler heads could prevail at some point, even if punches get thrown, you don't want to. Now take it outside. You don't want to go to the.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But in this. We outside already, right? We outside.

[Ice]

I don't want to. I don't want a loss because of what losses mean. Right. And if we're talking about Iran in particular, there are consequences to an Iran, quote, unquote win. What I'd like to see in the purpose of having an international community and international bodies like the United nations, for example, is to have people who can interfere to create some kind of resolution where you don't even have to have winners and losers because the very framework of winners and losers requires a lot of people to die, people's land to get annexed or taken, etc.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

What does a Iran win look like here?

[Ice]

So it could look here. It may not look that different except for the Number of people who die. Okay, I'll give you a concrete example. Think about Vietnam. The United States lost the Vietnam War, Right? Just by any objective measure, US Lost the Vietnam War.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Facts.

[Ice]

So if you say, what did that mean here? Well, it meant a lot of our uncles and aunts and friends and relatives died.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Got it.

[Ice]

And there was economic costs for the war machine, and a whole lot of people got rich from that war machine here. So it also strengthened the gap between the have nots and the have gots. Those are the kind of things that I don't want to see. But the Vietnamese won. But for the Vietnamese, winning kind of meant resisting the imperial power. It meant making the US Say, no, fuck it. This. This ain't worth it. You know, if you keep bullying somebody every day and they could fight, at some point the bully gonna look for somebody else. Even if ultimately they don't lose, they don't want to fight that hard all the time. So an Iran win could just look like resisting and keeping their land in the same way that a Cuban win for the last 50 years has meant keeping the imperialists at arm's length sometimes because they want you to think that if Iran is successful, that means that they're gonna take over the whole country and it's gonna be a global caliphate and that Sharia law is gonna control the whole. That's not what they're doing. Iranian.

[Joe Button]

Iran winning a war of attrition with the US Would mean starving, would mean more than just the safety of their people. It would mean the crashing of our economy, the crashing of a dollar US Being without resources. I don't think so.

[Ice]

Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't see any evidence of that. But also, it depends on how we escalate, right? I mean, if this escalates. Cause there's always proxy wars, right? A lot of these wars are really Russia and China and. And other people fighting against the United States through other people. Right? If this keeps growing to a World War II World War, let's say a World War II scale, then, yeah, the things you're talking about could happen. But that doesn't have to be. That's not even Plan C. I think there's a lot of steps before we get there. This could stop in five weeks. This could stop in eight weeks. And if the United States, rather if the Iranian military infrastructure is strong enough, they could stare down the US Enough for the US to back up, but allow the US Military to save face. Because that's what Donald Trump's not walking away with an L. Absolutely not.

[Joe Button]

I'm sorry.

[Ice]

Iran will defeat the United States.

[Big Mona]

Time will tell.

[Ice]

And our drones that are being fired

[Joe Button]

are very old drones. Our missiles that are being fired fired

[Big Mona]

are very old missiles.

[Joe Button]

They're very inexpensive. And Americans are using up very expensive air defense systems.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Iranians know exactly what they're doing.

[Joe Button]

We haven't even begun using our latest technology.

[Ice]

And most of Iran's underground bases have

[Big Mona]

not even been used yet.

[Amani]

They have not even been opened up for operation.

[Joe Button]

Iran has been planning for this day

[Big Mona]

ever since the invasion of Iraq.

[Joe Button]

They knew that some they had to at some point. The epine regime will go after that don't sound like people only fighting for their safety. They've been preparing themselves for many.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Sound like geared up.

[Joe Button]

That sound like ready for some. Since Iraq, we plotting. We've been that, that's.

[Ice]

That sound like that's the only way you can be safe.

[Amani]

You don't want to play chicken with Trump, man.

[Ice]

That's what resistance looks like. Yeah. I mean, you have to have nuclear weapons. You have to have weapons reception. What do you call interception systems. You have to have all this shit just to be safe. Yeah, you need all of it. I mean, because you're going against the U.S. you're going against Israel, you're going against the most well armed, well resourced people. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I mean, even that take to me sounds like American arrogance. You think we gonna be in the middle of war and people are offering all of their might just to remain safe from us, not to. Not to inflict harm anywhere.

[Big Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think these niggas is trying to

[Big Mona]

hit over here, the Gigantor. At the end of the day, just like when you ask the question about how do you feel about, like, do you still want to win? Right. It's like, I hate to sound ignorant, but it's like a part of you, you do want to win. You do want to kick ass. At the end of the day, it's hard saying we right? When if I'm on the phone with you later and you get pulled over, I'm not gonna hang up because I don't want. I want to make sure you okay.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Right.

[Big Mona]

And you are the most legal. I know. But that's our life here in this country. So, yeah, it's hard to say we ended the day. This is us. It's a we thing. Right. We got this dude in office. I knew for a fact it was no way that he was going to do this president thing and not have at least one it's not our only life.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna let you. That's not our only life in this country.

[Ice]

Country.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I don't, I don't.

[Big Mona]

Only life or not, that's my reality as, as a black woman, if I'm on the phone with you, the most legal I know, and you get pulled over, I'm not hanging out because I, I need to make sure.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You just don't know how it could go.

[Big Mona]

That's what my reality is. I don't know about everybody else. That's what my reality is.

[Joe Button]

But if you get hungry, you can go eat.

[Big Mona]

So at the end, if you get

[Joe Button]

thirsty, you can go drink water. There are, There are resources. There are things that you need to stay alive that you have full access.

[Big Mona]

I think you don't understand what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Understand exactly.

[Big Mona]

I was talking, What I was talking about was me saying. Feeling comfortable with saying we right when I have nothing. I, I don't agree with nothing that's going on with Israel. I don't with Donald Trump. All these things can happen and I'm an American, a taxpaying person, and it's still going to happen around me, and there's nothing I can do.

[Ice]

Let me ask you a question about that.

[Big Mona]

So when I say we and I'm talking about that, I'm saying the fact that still get shot by police, people that we pay to protect us, I'm talking about.

[Amani]

About.

[Big Mona]

I don't know why that's hard to understand.

[Joe Button]

So because we black, we should be rooting for America to lose a war.

[Amani]

No.

[Guest or Reporter]

What.

[Big Mona]

Let me get to my.

[Ice]

I think she said the opposite. Opposite about.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

She's saying she feels weird saying we should be winning this war when the country don't even give a about us.

[Big Mona]

That's what I was saying. So.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

So being on the side of we.

[Ice]

But she say she does. But she want us to win because

[Big Mona]

I've said it a thousand times on my platform and others. I am patriotic. I do feel like I'm, I'm an American. And I do, I do. I enjoy American life. I'm not. I mean, I know that I talk from a place of privilege, but I also know that when I look at how other people live, I see why, with the comforts that we have here.

[Ice]

So let me ask you a question based on it. Hold up. You saw what happened in the Iraq war, right? We destroyed Iraq. We lied about weapons of mass destruction. Iraq is still being rebuilt. Are you happy we won the Iraq war? In retrospect, are you Happy we won the Iraq war.

[Big Mona]

I don't think I could ever even use the word happy when it come to war, period. I just can't. Like, I'm. I'm against war. At the end of the day, I am. War does not look the same how it does the other places. That's why people. Because a lot of people don't know what the. They're talking about. And I see everybody having these open conversations and people talking about like, we've never lost. We lost. We lost Vietnam terribly. It's just we don't deal with this on our grounds. The closest we've ever got is night the 40s with Pearl harbor, and that's 9, 11. Okay, but that's different than your grandmother going to the supermarket to get some radish and getting her head blown the off on the way back. That's how they live over there. I can't. Exactly.

[Ice]

Because that's what winning the war means. Doing that to somebody.

[Big Mona]

I understand that.

[Ice]

And that's why I can't be happy to win a war.

[Big Mona]

That's. I can't use the word happy because not all of it is disgusted. But I also can't lie and say that a piece of me don't feel like if y' all start this, y' all better win.

[Amani]

You know, the way he's talking is like he's calling Trump's bluff. And you know, Trump is ready to drop the N word, nuclear. Like he's ready to do that.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that ain't worked.

[Ice]

Calling, calling, framing. That he's calling Trump's bluff still makes it seem like they're either instigating or could do something to stop this, and they can't. They have always wanted. As long as there's been an Israel, they've wanted a greater Israel. And that means they want Syria, they want Iran, they want parts of Saudi Arabia, they want parts of Iraq, they want Lebanon, they want Georgia, they want all of it. And they believe they God. At least they use the language of God to tell them that God wants them to have it. I don't even think that's. Most of them are atheists. They just use that as a pretext. Point being, they want this shit and they're gonna use any excuse to take it. There's nothing Iran could do. Iran could sneeze and they're gonna say it's a provocation. We see it in Gaza, we see it in Iran, we see it in Syria, we see it in Lebanon. Right now it's like, I don't wanna Reinforce the language that the imperialists, and specifically the United States, and in this case is, are somehow being provoked or instigated. They are the instigators.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, of course.

[Ice]

Of course. You know, of course they're bullies. And if he doesn't stand tall, I mean, I do think it's an interesting strategy to say, we're waiting for you. Because to me, that invites a certain kind of stuff.

[Big Mona]

Bullshit.

[Ice]

But I think you also have to do that sometimes.

[Big Mona]

Sometimes you gotta bark, you gotta talk shit. But that's the first thing I thought was, like, it sound like bullshit. Even when he says, oh, we're using our old things, they don't even even know about the new shit we got. It's like, oh, you got a bunch of old Ben. I mean, of course. What else you gonna say? Don't get up and say, I'm scared.

[Joe Button]

That don't sound like a bluff.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I don't take that as a bluff. Maybe I don't know enough.

[Ice]

I mean, you got Russian insurance, dog.

[Joe Button]

We got it.

[Amani]

We got it.

[Joe Button]

The US has been sending weapons to whoever is asking for weapons that they support, Right? Also, they're spending a million dollars in defense to defend against the little $50,000 drone things. I ain't the greatest in math, but if you've been loaning out a bunch of weapons and all your weapons cost 1,000,000, 2,000,000, 3,000, 4 to defend against some shit that is rocks and pebbles, like how you think it's supposed to turn out. I don't think that's a bluff. I think people have been sitting. I think. I don't. I don't.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I believe.

[Joe Button]

I think they've been sitting, sitting, laying, and waiting for a big, bad, evil America to come. And, yeah, we've been building and building

[Mark Lamar Hill]

up and waiting for y' all to bring your asses over here.

[Joe Button]

We making 500, a thousand of these a day, and. And we ready. And for me, it just don't sound like, oh, just to protect, just for our safety.

[Ice]

What do you think the ultimate goal is?

[Joe Button]

Who knows? I think that's their ultimate, ultimate goal. I think their safety is the ultimate goal.

[Ice]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Button]

I think that's the ultimate goal. I'm only talking. I'm only talking under the pretense of a war is happening.

[Ice]

Gotcha. We're joining now, ladies and gentlemen.

[Joe Button]

And like I said, it ain't them starting, it's us starting.

[Guest or Reporter]

Right?

[Joe Button]

Whatever.

[Ice]

To audio listeners, Ish just joined the building.

[Joe Button]

Why is Ish in here right now? Radical shit.

[Ice]

People asking to get tired, tagged in,

[Joe Button]

I asked her to sit here. Oh, you wanted to get in on some of this.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I want to get in.

[Joe Button]

Well, cuz we end in the pond. No, I was passionate over there about, oh, get your off. I ain't suppressing you. Go ahead.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I'm, I'm, I'm listening to your questions that you asking. How do you figure that?

[Joe Button]

I asked one question which was, does Mark want us to win?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah. And then when Mona started talking, you asked another question.

[Joe Button]

But what was the question?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Did it sound like that person that was planning all of that stuff was doing that to be safe?

[Joe Button]

Okay. Yeah, dog.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

They've never ever, ever really taken an aggressive stance against us. For the last 50 years, roughly, we've been hearing about Iran is coming next. We were kids, bro, we didn't know who Ayatollah Khmeini was and all of that. We seen throwing rocks at tanks for the last 50, 50, I'm 50 so. For the last 40 something years we've seen throwing rocks at tanks. I think Israel's overall goal is to make Israel damn near the whole Middle East. They're going to take Syria, they're going to take Lebanon, they're going to take all of these countries and that's going to be Israel. What they did with Palestine, slowly but surely over the last 40 years, they slowly took another piece and another piece and another piece and another piece. And the way that you incite this is you make that person right there the big bad bad wolf. You get the media on your side. Saddam Hussein, this is the big bad wolf. And we went and we took Iraq. So if you are Iran and you see what they just did to Gaddafi, you see what they just did to Saddam Hussein, you would be a fucking idiot not to be warrant up or getting enough shit so that if they try it on you that you can defend yourself.

[Joe Button]

I understand that. I just don't think that peaceful people will continue to remain peaceful if you come fucking with them like, like y'. All.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

But I didn't. And pick the beef, it's like, yo, I'm.

[Joe Button]

Nobody's saying that. I'm only talking under the pretense of America starting some shit. And this is the position now.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Yeah, but you saying that, yo, the people that think that are thinking for safety wouldn't be doing those things. No, if I'm in jail, I'm doing my push ups, I'm shadow boxing, I'm doing all that shit just in case a nigga try to push up on me and take my food I don't want to beef.

[Joe Button]

Are you saying that in this war, America's really in no danger?

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think America's in danger.

[Ice]

Anytime you start a warrior.

[Joe Button]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Start a fight with a that you think you could win. A could get lucky and punch you

[Ice]

in your face and black your eye.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

A could drop you. You could slip on the sand and get stomped out. And you could be the more superior fighter. I think America is severely underestimating them. I think they looking at them like they're still this little. We ain't really worried. We can. We can take this at any time.

[Ice]

Time.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

And they over there like, we've been waiting for you. We've been training and preparing for this day. And if you come over here, you're going to be surprised to find out what we got, how easy we did

[Amani]

this to Iraq, and at what cost, though, right?

[Joe Button]

Lives.

[Amani]

It's not worth it.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the thing. America being America again, they just want to get money. I don't even really think they care to win or lose. They just want an ongoing battle so they can get money.

[Amani]

That's whack.

[Joe Button]

It's corny.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Well, that's true, too. No, I don't think that. I think that they want to control.

[Ice]

Control oil.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

I think they want to control resources. I think still money, but. Yeah, it's still money. It's money generated, but it's still a control thing. Yes, because we still could be rich and you be rich, right? No, we want you to be this and we want to be super duper rich. You know what I'm saying? It's a greed. You want to be the big dog, and that's crazy to me. It's not. I don't think ideology plays a part in it. I think that's how we justify the war. I don't think that they give a about the women. I don't think they give a about the children. I think that's how they pass laws to say, yo, over there, they mistreating women over there, they doing these things. If America cared about that, they'd care about American citizens. Exactly my point. If it was about ideology, we would be spending our resources to make sure every American person has health care and lives a quality life. We wouldn't be working worried about their quality life. When our qualities of life ain't right in this country. That makes no sense.

[Big Mona]

Do y' all watch regular people that just video the bombs going on outside of their. Their doors, their front doors? Just regular people just didn't bombs. Have y' all seen the black people that are stuck in Dubai because they don't watch the news and they went over there to party and. And the consulate doesn't give a. And everybody in their comments on social media sites say, oh, you need to call. What are we supposed to call?

[Joe Button]

Embassy.

[Big Mona]

The went live called. Well, made a video calling the embassy because embassy answers the phone like, baby, we can't help you. I'm about to go. No plan. We're guys.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Good luck.

[Big Mona]

You know what the worst part about this whole thing is? I just start getting some money, you know?

[Joe Button]

Damn. And there you have it.

[Ice]

Good talk, guys.

[Joe Button]

That was pretty good. You guys. We did it. Is coming in. Passionate, spirited man don't come in the end of the pod with fresh legs. While I'm ready to burn this joint. He coming ready to talk, man. I'm going home.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

That was a real question. Like, yo, do you think we should win or lose? That's a. That's a real.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I wanted to know what we was rooting for. Like, I don't agree with what we doing, but I don't want to lose it either.

[Big Mona]

For now on, me and Mark are going to share a spot like this.

[Ice]

I like that. It's a new account. She's the Philly Mike.

[Big Mona]

Because you're already yourself scared of us anyway, so

[Joe Button]

we're very hungry.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You want your seat back?

[Big Mona]

Great. We good, Phillies.

[Joe Button]

All righty. All right. We. We. We did it. Campbell. To mellow it out, Joe.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Nah, this ain't that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, this ain't that. He don't know. He not the music guy. He not the music guy. Yeah, you may be the music guy on rap radar, my G, but up here, you think this tevin. This is a Joe Button classic right here. Listen, hopefully you all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers until next time we bid you a due farewell. Adio. Cerebra dirche. The hasta la vista au revoir was so long about. A simple head nod will suffice, man. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this last as if it's all we have. It ain't a thing. I'm looking through my career. I'm more the long game dude. And how I choose to prepare. Not the richest. What y' all on this weekend? What y' all on this weekend?

[Parks]

Bye.

[Joe Button]

65 degrees.

[Ice]

Hey, be down with you on this

[Joe Button]

weekend, man, you buying a tv?

[Amani]

I'm gonna pray, go to church.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my fucking. Freeze. What you want?

[Big Mona]

What you want?

[Joe Button]

Freeze.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

Man, I'm still on this Resident Evil game, man.

[Joe Button]

I'm in the house, Mark.

[Ice]

My wife's out of town, so I'mma take care of your kid, do some research.

[Joe Button]

Big Mona. Big Mona. What you want?

[Big Mona]

Diet and exercise.

[Joe Button]

Hey, there you go. There you go. As for me, I might be moving and shaking. I might just be in the house hibernating. If you see me, just holler the real when I'm out. Good show, y'. All. Great show. Yeah. Even our CNN part. I liked it. I liked it. Hey, rab. What up, boy? We'll be back next week, man. Y' all hold it down out there. If you're not subscribed to that Patreon, now would be a great time to do so. The Joe Button Patreon. The Mark Lamar Hill Patreon. The Amani Patreon. Yeah. Joe Button Patreon first. Wait a minute. Huh?

[Amani]

Quincy, let you clear this.

[Ice]

I'm trying to help you, bro.

[Mark Lamar Hill]

You go Harlem or something?

[Ice]

You want them theater?

[Joe Button]

What the hell is B not doing? Come on, you know we come from that era. We ain't. Hey, anything ain't clear.

[Ice]

Wait a minute.

[Joe Button]

You could come now. I got the money. I was broke during the creation. We did it. Now y' all are down out there, man. Everybody enjoy your weekend and stay safe. We'll fold that up right now.