Episode 911 | "A Tribe Called Colonizers"

Summary

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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 911 | "A Tribe Called Colonizers"
Date: March 14, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
With: Mark Lamont Hill, Parks, B Dot, Freeze, Mona, and more

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Overview

In this lively, hilarious, and at times heated episode, Joe Budden and the crew dive into a wide range of topics blending hip-hop, pop culture, sports, relationships, and community issues with their trademark banter and sharp takes. Episode 911 features extended debates on Bam Adebayo’s historic 83-point NBA game, a critical review of Jack Harlow’s surprise neo-soul album “Monica,” new music releases, social issues like the Target boycott, relationship hot takes, and more. The hosts keep the energy high with jokes, honest takes, and a consistent undercurrent of nostalgia and introspection about hip-hop, fame, and black culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Girl Scout Cookies

[00:44–06:20]

• The hosts start off with classic clowning—Joe flexes his "part of the month" chain, jokes about feeling "beautiful," and the group riffs on “shape-ups” and “boy toy” nicknames.
• Debate over the best Girl Scout cookies (“Thin Mints are the best”) and the political correctness of names (“You can’t call them Samoas anymore.” – F, 03:44).
• Discussion about Girl Scouts selling cookies in front of New Jersey dispensaries:
  • “I’d encourage my kid to be outside the dispensary.” – B Dot, [05:12]
  • “They got a future in strategic marketing.” – Joe, [05:01]

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2. Bam Adebayo’s 83-Point Game & NBA Ethics

[19:53–42:08]

Bam’s Game Breakdown

• Ice and Mark Lamont Hill open with hate and congratulations for Bam’s 83-point game.
• Dissection of the stat line: “43 free throw attempts, 20/43 FGs, 7/22 from three.”
• Hosts take issue with:
  • The unnatural circumstances (“The Wizards gave it away.” – F, [26:16])
  • Prolonged stat-chasing in a blowout
  • Both teams manipulating the game to help Bam get points

The “Ethics” of Big Scoring Nights

• Mark refers to Bleacher Report’s ranking of "most ethical" 70+ point performances ("Bam's is 11th; Luka’s 73 ranks #1, Kobe’s 81 is #2" – F, [33:03]).
• Historical context: Wilt’s 100, Kobe’s 81, David Robinson’s 71—all referenced with nostalgia, side-eye, and jokes.

Larger NBA Issues: Tanking, Gambling, and Product Quality

• “Adam Silver’s fallen off a bit.” – Joe, [31:20]
• “Scoring is inflated… historical comparison is hard. Triple-doubles don’t mean the same.” – Mark, [36:21]

On Bam and the Hall of Fame

• “If he scored 101, maybe…but just the 83? That’s not enough.” – Joe, [42:08]

Quote:

“This is not something that hit near and dear to any sports fans’ heart… If I were Adam Silver, I’d want the erasure of it immediately.”
— Joe, [38:15]

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3. Jack Harlow’s Album “Monica” Review

[64:54–77:10]

• Confusion over the album’s inspiration and style.
• Noted as a surprising left-turn: “Not a rap album at all… it’s neo-soul.” – B Dot, [67:13]
• “If Tribe Called Quest were white. This is definitely a Tribe Called Colonizer.” – Joe, [68:05]
• The hosts dig in: “It sounds like a white guy making quote, unquote, black music for white guys that wanna fit in.” – C, [74:01]

Major Critique:

• The pivot from rap to “blacker-sounding” neo-soul is called out as a form of white privilege (“Fool us with some hip-hop, then make the turn…” – Joe, [71:27]).
• Jack Harlow compared (unfavorably) to the likes of Post Malone (“He didn’t do it like Post…”) and criticized for trying to “borrow from black cookouts.”
• Consensus: Technically well-produced, personally uninspired. “It’s fine background music… kinda corny… sucks if you’re expecting rap.” – Mona, [77:23]

Quote:

“This feels like a Glenn Lewis… a Jimmy Cozier album. What in the name of ‘Sometimes I love her and sometimes I love her not’ is this?”
— Joe, [72:09]

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4. Relationship Takes, Paradise TV Recap, and Gender Debates

[45:08–54:59, 114:01–128:39]

• Joe complains about “Paradise” (a relationship-themed show): "In the end of the world, your vow means something!" – Joe, [47:16]
• The group riffs on relationships, with jokes and sometimes serious takes about loyalty, vows (“‘Til death do us part!”), and infidelity.
• Recap and critique of Ari Lennox’s public confession about preferring “bad guys” in dating:
  • “Sometimes women don’t realize you’re attracting shittiness… cuz you kinda shitty,” – Mona, [124:34]
  • Appreciation for her honesty, but pushback on how and when women realize their mistakes.

Quote:

“Women out here sleeping on male discernment. These dudes just going in with a clear conscience…”
— Joe, [122:32]

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5. Music Roundup: New Releases & Diss Tracks

[83:00–93:32]

• YG’s “State of Emergency”, 50 Cent dropping a new soundtrack single, and Buddy’s new single.
• Debate about diss tracks: Maino, Papoose, and even an AI-generated 50 Cent diss (“They bleed just like us… we don’t believe you, you gonna have to prove it to me!” – Maino, [87:01]).
• The bar for a successful diss is now sky-high post-Kendrick, but the hosts still enjoy a good, raw track.

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6. Janet Jackson vs. Michael Jackson Movie

[55:25–62:22]

• Alleged reports that Janet Jackson hates the new Michael Jackson biopic—mainly because of artistic choices, perceived lack of quality, and potential personal/professional jealousy.
• Mark notes there are “sources” that claim Janet always held some competitive tension with Michael.
• Multiple references to the classic Jackson 5 biopics, questioning if another MJ film is even necessary or will do the story justice.

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7. Live Shows, Social Media & No-Phones Policies

[94:14–99:00]

• Jill Scott’s upcoming tour will enforce a no-phones policy — unanimously supported:
  • “I love it. You gotta be present.” – E, [94:22]
• Recording shows/phone usage: “None of us actually go back to watch that footage…”
• Nostalgia for the days of in-person, unmediated, legendary show moments.

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8. Community: Target Boycott Controversy

[162:22–168:58]

• Jamal Bryant, megachurch pastor, controversially announces the end of the black community’s Target boycott—despite not being the boycott’s actual originator.
• Mark explains how local women organizers started the actual boycott and feel Bryant is trying to “co-opt” the narrative (“You can’t end a boycott you didn’t start!” – Mark, [165:04]).
• Extended discussion on how often Black women do movement work but are erased by men taking credit at the finish line.

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9. Quick Hits:

• Carnival Cruise Viral Hoax: Family fakes being left behind for viral fame, Carnival threatens lawsuit ([171:28–173:39]).
• Nancy Guthrie Disappearance: Cases of missing white women in the media, police clearing the family too quickly, Joe suspects a coverup ([173:50–175:51]).
• Oscar Predictions: Rooting for “Sinners” (Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Coogler); criticism for Timothée Chalamet’s anti-arts comments ([141:47–147:27]).
• Soulquarians Reunion: Mixed feelings—nostalgia and skepticism—about a new chapter of the legendary collective after key members’ deaths ([109:39–113:14]).
• Rest in Peace Tributes: Lord Sear, hip-hop legend, and Ernie Anastas, NY news anchor ([106:01–108:23]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Bam’s 83:

"None of my tightness is directed at Bam… but the other team is—it’s assumed they’re trying to win and they not.” — Joe, [26:38]

On Jack Harlow’s ‘Monica’:

“This is definitely a Tribe Called Colonizer.” — Joe, [68:05]
“It’s a white guy making black music for white guys that wanna fit in.” — C, [74:01]

On Janet Jackson Movie

"You can't end a boycott you didn't start!” — Mark, [165:04]

On Diss Tracks:

“They bleed just like us. We don't believe you, you gotta prove it.” — Maino (diss track), [87:01]
“The bar is different for everyone... but when you say 'diss record,' I expect that artist's best foot forward.” — Joe, [88:47]

On Male Discernment:

"Women out here sleeping on male discernment... toxic men—boy, we are some of the sweetest men. Like, if we get to falling..." — Joe, [122:32]

On No-Phone Shows:

“I love it. You gotta be present.” — E, [94:14]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Bam Adebayo & NBA Talk: 19:53–42:08
• Jack Harlow “Monica” Review: 64:54–77:10
• Paradise TV Show & Relationships: 45:08–54:59
• Janet Jackson Movie Controversy: 55:25–62:22
• Music Roundup/New Diss Tracks: 83:00–93:32
• Jill Scott No Phones: 94:14–99:00
• Ari Lennox Dating Admissions: 114:01–128:39
• Target Boycott Controversy: 162:22–168:58

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Tone & Style

• Language: Unfiltered, irreverent, and full of inside jokes, friendly insults, and personal references.
• Energy: High—debates run hot, everyone chimes in, passionate about music, sports, and Black community issues.
• Dynamic: Joe is the ringleader, moving topics, poking fun but also steering deeper conversations; Mark, B Dot, and Mona especially keep it real with personal and political insights.

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Summary Takeaway

Episode 911 is quintessential Joe Budden Podcast: personal, hilarious, and sharply cultural. The crew mixes deep sports talk, pop culture reviews, and authentic cultural discussion—always blending humor with serious critique, placing Black culture and hip-hop history at the center. The review of Jack Harlow’s “Monica” and critical discussion of Bam Adebayo’s 83 are standout segments; equally, the relationship talk and hot takes on Target boycott drama and social clout-chasing add depth and variety to a long but engrossing ride.

Transcript

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

Gotta make sure I'm pretty. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good. Oh, we gonna need. We gonna need some time. Oh, yeah, we're gonna need a little bit of that. That's what we're waiting for.

[B]

Came on you with your shape up. So you feeling a little bit different?

[A]

I am feeling rather beautiful. Yeah.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

I am. How you doing? I'm great, man.

[D]

Shape up is like.

[B]

I like when nigga like shades.

[A]

Wait, don't talk over bdot. What do you say, B. Dad? I'm saying.

[D]

Cause shape up is like.

[B]

You know how you get when you got somebody new play with your toy?

[A]

Why? I'm a toy. A toy. Holy B dot. I didn't tell you. This room gets super disrespect. People come. We do. They. They blame it on me. But this room gets foul with new people.

[D]

This man just called me a boy toy.

[A]

Yes, it's a Joe thing. Yeah, but I mean, that's his thing.

[B]

That's his thing. Yeah, that's. That's how you kid at the lunchroom guy.

[A]

Boy toys. You got some nerve, boy toy.

[E]

Mark.

[F]

Right?

[A]

Mark, you agree with this? Your special treatment's over. Oh, man. Good to see everybody. Good to see everybody.

[B]

Good to be here.

[A]

All right. Good. Good shades you got on, man.

[B]

I like them shades.

[A]

Hold up. I'm getting a compliment. You know what? What you say? What'd you say? Freeze. I ain't saying.

[F]

You do look a little extra something today.

[B]

We was talking about.

[C]

We came. He's trying to get his boy tortus back.

[A]

Exactly. Nah, it's. I didn't do nothing special. I. I didn't dress for anything. We don't have a guest.

[B]

This little thing here.

[A]

I saw Joe's chain.

[D]

I'm gonna tuck mine in, man.

[C]

I know you should.

[A]

Yeah. This chain right here, you can't purchase with money. Oh, man. You can't get this with funds. This is a custom one of one. And you gotta earn this. This part of the month chain right here that I'm still wearing. Still rocking. Beautiful.

[F]

Yes, it's still March. Yes, it's still March.

[A]

For anybody that was wondering out there, I didn't leave it here. And then Put it on. I took it home. I put it in my. With the rest of my jewelry.

[C]

Were the chains even in the house?

[A]

Yeah. Nobody else should bug me about it. I mean, right? It doesn't belong to anyone else. I feel like this is the Captain America shield.

[D]

You ever thought about making, like, ancillary chains, like, for everyone? Like, Rockefeller style, Like, little smaller ones?

[A]

Anything I think of doing for anyone else is always ancillary. Oh, my God. This nigga is. Yes. So the answer is yes, I have thought of that. All right. Who you think bought that chain I used to wear?

[D]

You think that was a Snoop Chain?

[A]

It's a Death Row, right?

[B]

Yes.

[F]

So it's true.

[B]

Yes, it's true.

[F]

I knew it.

[B]

I ain't gonna run from it.

[F]

Thank you.

[A]

Wait. And he got a Death Row hat on. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Oh, you and the staff. Yes.

[A]

Oh, pay niggas. That's when niggas get quiet. Niggas get quiet when it's time to pay, I pay. That accounting, it does get tricky. I can tell you, man. Everything goes against it.

[B]

You can't say that a word.

[A]

What, accounting? Yeah. Why you.

[B]

Chill out, please.

[F]

That's a good joke.

[A]

You chill out. That's one of the narratives I roll with. See? You got to roll with some narratives Free. I know.

[F]

Anyway, by the way, I got y' all some cookies y' all want to eat. If y' all want Girl Scout cookies, they on the counter.

[B]

What kind you got, though?

[C]

That's a good question.

[F]

Thin Mints. Which are the best?

[D]

Nah, nah.

[F]

And then I got y' all some. What's they rename one of them because you can't call them Samoans anymore. What are they called?

[D]

They not called Samoans no more.

[A]

No.

[C]

It's racist.

[F]

You can't say that in 2026.

[B]

You can't call it a Samoan. No, that was the name of the cookie.

[F]

Yes.

[C]

It's over.

[B]

All right, man.

[F]

How would you feel if Alabama's like, I'll have two. Two rows of Negroes? Like, are they good?

[A]

Was it the Girl Scouts or the Boy Scouts? That was the.

[C]

I think it was the Boy Scouts.

[A]

The Boy Scout.

[B]

Whatever you asking.

[C]

They had to rebrand a little bit.

[A]

It was the boys.

[F]

They weren't eating cookies.

[C]

Well, they were.

[G]

Those Girl Scout troops were set up outside the exit of this dispensary, catching customers on their way out. They were actually set to return tonight, but canceled after receiving some criticism.

[A]

Customers were thrilled with this.

[G]

Two weeks ago, a local Girl Scout

[A]

troop set up shop in New Jersey of course. Dispensary in Mount Laurel.

[G]

And as you can imagine, a lot of cookie sales were made.

[A]

I think there's definitely a commonality between brilliant, the customer who shops here, and our love for the munchies. Them little girls is Bright, founder and CEO of Daylight.

[G]

He says the girl Scout troop first contacted his.

[A]

They got a future in strategic marketing. Word.

[B]

That's fucking brilliant. Know your target audience.

[A]

If Yalls kids were selling Girl Scout cookies, would you allow them to do it in front of the. In front of the dispensary? And what do you think about that?

[B]

I would encourage them to do it in front of the dispensary.

[F]

Hell, yeah. Let's get this shit over with.

[B]

Let's get this money.

[C]

Don't be used to the smell.

[D]

See, my daughter, she's a girl Scout, and she sells them cookies. I don't have time to beg my friends to buy some thin Mints, so I just buy them in bulk, small.

[F]

How many she gotta sell? Don't you got like a hundred boxes?

[D]

You gotta sell like, a hundred to get, like, a paperclip or something like that.

[C]

Them shits ain't cheap.

[B]

You buy that's like a thousand dollars.

[D]

I buy, like, 10, 20. Just distribute them around, you know, the hood.

[C]

They give you a little discount or something. Nah, that's a lot of press.

[A]

You got it, bro.

[F]

Just hit the group chat. I buy everybody's girl Scout cookies.

[D]

I feel like I'm paying handler. Hey, can you buy my kid?

[A]

I agree, it does feel poor.

[D]

Might as well just go on the train and be like, hey, my name is Brian. I'm selling girl Scout cookies for my daughter.

[C]

You can do it.

[A]

Because then I'd be down to do it. I'd say, yes, I will. There. All right, I'm sending you a link, and then you got. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not signing up for that. Yeah, I'm not putting it in my cookies, right?

[C]

Cookies in your cookies.

[A]

Yeah, I'm cool on that one, but good luck. Hope Sally sells out, man. That's tough, man. All right, fine. Looks like I gotta get this bad boy started. Let's go.

[B]

You will cheat on your girl, and the first thing she'll say is, how could you do this to me? This is so embarrassing. Embarrassing to who?

[A]

Nobody know.

[B]

You told everybody I kept this a secret? I didn't even tell the bitch I

[F]

was cheating when I was with you.

[A]

I got caught by you, and you told everybody.

[B]

You embarrassed yourself. I'm the one that kept this a secret. I'm the one that. That. That held the information in.

[A]

Don't put the camera on me. You caught me and you put it out.

[B]

You embarrassed us.

[A]

Mike shake 1, 2, 1, 2. Mike shake 1, 2, 1, two. So happy to be here with y'. All. So happy y' all could be here with me. Don't be afraid, baby. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Verify this for the ladies. Big jersey. Anytime.

[D]

I'm in the building.

[A]

New York City. What's going on out there? Shout out to all the DJs out there. Get these R B parties ready for the spring summer, by the way. Oh, yeah,

[E]

Don't be shy.

[A]

Whole Philadelphia dmv. What's going on? Boston, Rhode Island. What's going on? Connecticut. What up out there? Yeah, I mean, it's back when we used to leave a voicemail and shit. The music in the background.

[F]

Some of y' all know about it.

[A]

Oh, baby, yeah. Rest in peace to the legend Lavert. Shout out to the old hoes out there. You gotta do it for the old holes sometimes. Hey, I mean, when you start dating somebody your age and you can play age appropriate, play some La Anita Baker and all that. Hey, body in the car right now. Everybody up. Cleaning the house, getting the kids ready to run some errands. And all of that prom season coming up. Get those kids ready.

[B]

Damn sure is.

[A]

Here you go.

[B]

Time

[F]

for me.

[A]

All the love you need. That you deserve the best. Shout out to all the parents out there listening. And I can't keep bringing Like I feed the red Baby, I'm. I'm ready.

[F]

Hey.

[A]

Shout out to the O.J. patti Lavert and all that. Will give you all of it. Yes, sir. Shout out to the Freaky ho. Freaknik Greek Festival and all that. Hey, Can't forget about Bike Fest. Can't forget about Bike Fest, Motor Beast Weekend and all that Black Bike Week. Hey, wait a minute now. Yeah, this ain't that hip hop shit, B. I can't bounce. I don't know how deep your R and B bag is, but this ain't that. And that ain't. Hey, we got a great show lined up for y' all today. So glad that y' all could be here with us. You could have been anywhere in the world. Shout out to all the patronies out there, all the content creators, all the nine to five is entrepreneurs out there.

[E]

Cuz my love is a.

[A]

All right, go ahead, Mark. This is a good time to shout some colleges out. I don't know any. Go ahead. Shout out to Howard Anthony. All that Delaware State. Shout out to R, North Carolina AT&T. Shout out to Texas Tech. I know the poor colleges here we are all alone, you and me, privacy

[E]

and we can do anything you fancy. I wanna make.

[A]

Free to wave, of course. Be out before you know it. Don't worry about it, Yo. Don't worry about it. I'm telling y' all this summer. I got y'. All, I got y' all at the R B cookout.

[C]

There we go.

[F]

Nice.

[A]

I got y'. All could have kept that going another 40 minutes, man. Stop playing with me out there. Shout out the doughboy. Peace. Shout out to the DJs out there, DJ Booth and all that SNS. What up, Goldie? What up out there? Let me get these drops out the way. Gotta shout out the DJs. Y' all are very instrumental to how our summer is gonna go.

[C]

Facts.

[A]

That's a fact. Very warden. Get your playlist, get your records ready, do your research, listen to the new music. I don't want to look to the left at the DJ booth and a cassette is playing. I'm trying to tell you something.

[C]

You in the wrong spot if that's a cassette.

[D]

Let me tell you.

[A]

Let me tell you. D.J. something out there. If I happen to look to my left and you not there, I'm gonna look at my watch neck which I never do. I check the time on my phone. If I gotta look at my watch and see it's 1:45 and ain't nobody over there and I gotta listen to this stripper just talk. You say your watch sometimes. Not right now. Sometimes I'm obnoxious with it, sometimes I'm just stupid with it. I don't care. Mark. Shout out to the academic out there. Yes, sir. Shout the. You Oxford book. All right, I'm getting these drops out the way. I. Who is that?

[F]

Oh, where the.

[A]

Oh, Neil, I did that one.

[C]

That's.

[A]

I wanted to do it again. Acapulco, just so they hear. Cuz my man out here, I'm repping for him. Shout out to is here with us in spirit. Shout out to Flip here with us in spirit. Shout out to Mona, here with us in spirit. She will be here shortly. Make no mistake about it. What episode is this? 910. 911.

[F]

911.

[A]

All right, we zoom in. We are zooming. When we get to episode 1000, I'm going to call the chef I paid for Podsgiving that we never did two years ago. And we going to have a time. I'm trying to tell you something. Welcome to episode 911 of the Joe Button Podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button. Here with a few people that are near and dear to my heart. To my right, our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you feeling, brother?

[F]

Good, man. He's got these little allergies.

[A]

Me word.

[F]

That's it. Crazy what a grown can't have. You can't be as a man no more man at all.

[D]

Step your teeth.

[A]

What a pansy. What a pansy.

[F]

Allergies.

[C]

Sit you down, get you some floes, man.

[F]

It's something at the door.

[A]

But as soon as the weather changes, you can't breathe, you got the sniffles.

[F]

I get a little stuffy. My eyes get a little. Little crusty.

[A]

Yeah. And you ain't ate during Ramadan. You're hungry.

[F]

I'm about the raw dog. This Claritin.

[C]

You can't eat Claritin during Ramadan. I'm kidding.

[F]

I think I'm going take Claritin.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

I'm not gonna take a water with it.

[A]

Wait, no, you can't use drugs. You going to use Claritin?

[F]

I'm going to use me some clarity.

[A]

Do you have asthma, too?

[B]

You going to dry? You going to dry dunk it?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So, so small.

[A]

Hopefully you feel better, man. You will. That sounds like some real pansy to

[F]

have everybody out there suffering, everybody dealing with allergies.

[B]

It's been rough already.

[A]

Yo, shout out to y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Call your primary physicians, your EMTs. Get your life alert ready. The bees are pollinating right in my box of clarity.

[F]

Like, I just put like. Like I just ordered a thong. Like, dog, it's just a pill.

[A]

Yeah, I know, man. I just want you to feel better. Listen. Next to him, our guest host for the third. I've lost count now, but our good brother B Dot is in the building. B Dot, how you doing, man?

[D]

Salutations to you, Joe.

[A]

B. Don't start your man. Don't pull out any hidden secret hookahs. Yeah. Enough of you today, buddy. Just be normal. Next to B Dot. Next to B. Dot. Y' all know the vibes, man. Stop playing with him. Mr. Take it further himself. Our good brother Freeze is here. Freeze, how you doing, man?

[B]

I'm great.

[A]

I'm great.

[B]

Glad to be here.

[A]

Feeling good.

[B]

Ready to get to some pot.

[A]

Good to have you. Good to have you next to him. Y' all know the vibes, man. Y' all know what's going on Elmira's finest big Parks is in the building.

[C]

What's good? What's good?

[A]

Next to him, our good brother White Poe is in the building. Since people didn't know out there, White Poe is in the building. Stop playing with him, Whitepo. Stop playing next to him. Fucking Cory is here. His fucking dried oatmeal bowls in my pod spot. Our good brother Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Before we go any further, this episode is brought to you by Powered by Fuel by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. All right, what are we on?

[F]

What are we going.

[B]

It's a couple y. Sorry.

[A]

Oh, you got the itch again. No.

[B]

Oh, no, I scratched it.

[C]

I finally hit one last Thursday. Thank God I hit nine.

[A]

I was like a drought. Wow.

[F]

Damn.

[D]

Sam Rostein over here.

[A]

Where you hit for what?

[B]

No, I hit nine tickets on Wednesday.

[A]

Oh, damn, that sound like a lot of money.

[C]

That's a lot of Girl Scout cookies.

[F]

That's a lot of Girl Scout cookies.

[A]

Girl Ice and Parks and Corey are indeed prize picks. Target audience.

[C]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

Oh, it works.

[B]

Oh, yeah, they got me.

[A]

The commercials are working. The advertisements are working.

[C]

I watch a lot of pods, so

[A]

yeah, yeah, that's what it. These brothers get that itch and they will drive far to scratch it.

[C]

Take a plane sometimes.

[A]

Yeah. That's amazing. Good to see everybody. Where do you want to begin? Let's get right to it.

[F]

Let's start. I think you want to start with what? I think I want to start with.

[B]

I do. I do.

[F]

Bam. Adebayo, if you living on a different planet. A couple nights ago we started with hate.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I don't know that everybody's position is hate on this.

[B]

Mine is hate.

[F]

Ice tweeted. I'm hating. I'm hating.

[C]

You were hating in the group chat, like off written.

[F]

Well, first of all, I didn't know it was real. Joe sends out something out in the group chat saying bam got like 74 points. LOL. So I'm thinking he got like 40, 50. I thought he was being dramatic. You know what I mean? No, I stopped watching watching Grey's Anatomy, which I never do once I found out this dude had seven. Yeah, maybe I'm a pansy, but he has seven. He has 74 points. So then I watched the rest of the game and he ended up with 83, which for those that don't know, is the second most in NBA history.

[A]

Right. 83 points the other night, 83 points the other night versus the Washington Wizards. 20 for 43 on field goals, 36 for 43 on free throws, and 7 for 22 on three point attempts.

[C]

That was the only egregious part to me.

[A]

Me.

[B]

Free throws.

[C]

No. Well, that was egregious, too, but they followed him. That's not his fault. The 223 is crazy.

[F]

I have thoughts on all of it, but. But I. Why don't you start hating?

[B]

All right, well, let me start with congrats. Congrats.

[D]

Backhanded compliment first.

[B]

Oh, no, no, for sure. Because 83 is 83.

[D]

Right?

[A]

If.

[B]

If everybody can square 83, they do it. So congrats. That to the side. Get this out of here, man. This was some. This was wrapped up on a bow. They gave this to you?

[A]

Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Cause now that I see where we going, I want to hate with you. Okay, but let me just interrupt for a minute because. Yes. Congratulations. I just want to spend 40 seconds on that before the next hour is hating this guy.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Rock out there.

[A]

His mom was there.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

His mom is there.

[F]

His girl was there.

[A]

His girl is there. Who also is the best Hooper in her league.

[C]

Also is also doing a lot better.

[F]

Right. I know what he meant.

[A]

Just also happens to be, by the way, also happens to be the best Hooper in her league. Norman Powell, out for the game. Tyler Herro, out for the game. By everyone's account, this guy. Bam. Couldn't be a nicer person on and off the court like somebody that you would want to root for. Tough upbringing. Got it out the mud. Like, what a nice, kind guy. So I do want to say I am extremely happy for him and his accomplishment. And awesome. Back to ice.

[B]

Don't tell me his mom at the. I saw Alan. Ion mother braid his hair at the game. I don't care that you.

[D]

That wasn't his mom, but I get it.

[A]

Par.

[B]

But I saw him.

[A]

Wait, who was that?

[C]

I thought.

[D]

I think it was his aunt.

[B]

Always thought it was his mom.

[F]

His mom did it one time. I think there's one very famous photo of Alan Iverson's mom.

[A]

But anyway, that was David Stern. I'd have banned Allen Iverson for at least 10 years, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Honestly, I know we love him. That's one of my harsh black people takes. Allen Iverson should have got banned. He lucky. I'd have did way worse than Larry Brown.

[B]

You.

[A]

You can't get your hair braided during the game. I don't care. Just no, you cannot, you cannot. Hold on.

[B]

We hate on Baron.

[F]

I have no comment. Comment.

[B]

We hate on Bam, not AI.

[F]

You can't do that.

[B]

Get revoked for that.

[F]

I a say nothing.

[A]

He moved. Who cares?

[F]

That's true, that's true. Shout out to Alan. Ion. Great player.

[B]

Yeah, we not hating on AI.

[A]

We hating Bam.

[C]

Hate directed.

[B]

Yeah, we going to keep the hate. We're supposed to be. I don't get this out of here completely. Like why fam? We watched this game.

[F]

You don't.

[B]

I'm not giving nobody taking 40. Was it 43 free throws? You shot 24.

[C]

They followed him.

[F]

That's what I don't like. So here's my issue with it. And again, shout out to Bam. 83 points is a lot of points. And he had to make them free throws, of course. And part two.

[A]

So, you know, 36 for 42 or something, whatever.

[F]

It's impressive. It's an impressive game. It's an impressive performance. It's an all time performance. You could not have gone into this game, anybody thinking that the NBA scoring record was going to be challenged.

[D]

Right.

[F]

Thinking that somebody's going to finish second all time was impossible. And if you did go into that day thinking that, you wouldn't have attached it to Bam out of Bio. If I say anybody, somebody in the league tonight is going to break the record. You might have said sga. You might have said there's a lot of names would come up. I don't think Bam would have made the top 25.

[D]

Right?

[B]

Correct.

[F]

So it's an extraordinary game. Unexpected. My issue with it, because I went back and watched the whole game because at the time I had only seen the fourth quarter. My issue really is what happens from the third quarter forward. He had 43 at halftime. I ain't mad at that. Was he chucking short? But that's basketball.

[B]

Of course, people chuck.

[A]

And he was hitting. So he scored 31 in the first quarter. After that, I fully expect you to chuck. He checked for the rest of the game.

[F]

He's supposed to. I ain't mad at that. What I don't like is two things. One, when you're up by that much at one point, 25, 26 points, you gotta come out. Unless you are. Hear me out, hear me out. Unless you are within. Like for example, if I had 79 and we up by 25, that's different. If we got 65. If I got 65 and we up by 25. Come on.

[A]

No.

[F]

Embiid came out with 70. Klay Thompson came out with 60 something. Something we can name. There's a few players who might have Kobe that time, not the game that he won. I mean that he got the 81,

[A]

but when he had the 61 and 3 quarters against the Mavericks, I was listening to. Yeah, it was the Maverick. I was listening to a former Laker talk about that game and how they were on the bench urging him to go in after the third. And Kobe's response was, we're up 20, right. There's no need for me to go back in. It'll happen again. And sure enough, enough. One month or a month and a half later, it happens again. So for the people saying. And listen, I'm not here to defend this on some Kobe, Stan. Any of my argument has absolutely zero to do with Kobe. Well, maybe a teeny bit at the end.

[F]

Yeah, for me it does.

[A]

But to the people saying that Kobe will have. Would have celebrated this, I. I firmly disagree.

[F]

No, Kobe would not have celebrated this.

[A]

I firmly disagree.

[F]

Because of that example. And that's the second part of it. And this is the part Kobe would have hate it. Absolutely would hate it. The other team at some point was helping a little bit too much for me.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

I don't like. I didn't like. First of all, I didn't like that the Heat themselves were fouling the other team to stop the clock.

[A]

Absolutely disgusting. That's not basketball and that's not me being a basketball purist. That's just nasty.

[F]

It's just not how the game is played. And then at some point, it's like the Wizards were in on it. Now I did like the last couple

[A]

minutes, it seemed like, no, you keep saying that. I got to cut you off.

[F]

Off, please.

[A]

That's another reason that I hate everything about this except for him getting it. Cuz he's a good guy. But the other team is. It's assumed that they're trying to win and they not. They're not.

[F]

They're not. Not until the last three minutes.

[A]

I don't hear. I hear the experts and the. And the analysts, they come on and they saying, well, it's just the Wizards. But what they saying is there's nobody out there that's trying to win a game. The Raptors, I watched that Kobe game. They were trying to win. Yes, they were up at halftime. They were trying to win. They were throwing the whole kitchen sink at that boy. He was just on fire. On fire and in his own. When you see these types of numbers, you think on fire and in. In the zone. Donovan Mitchell, 70 Devin Booker, 70. Dame Lillard, 70. These are people that just. You hear the stories. The rim look like the ocean.

[B]

Just can't miss.

[A]

This game was just a clusterfuck.

[F]

And that's what I'm thinking.

[B]

Wrapped up in a bow.

[D]

Some people call it in ethical, you know, I mean, but I think history's won by the victors. And I feel like years from now, people aren't going to care about how he got it. They're just going to care about the achievement itself.

[A]

But we were at unethical before Bam's historic night, and this night was kind of an amalgam of just all the problems that the NBA has. We were at unethical with the Tank.

[B]

Tank.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I do want to briefly say with the cool Kobe quote about it'll present itself again in Bam's case, I don't know if that's gonna present itself again.

[F]

That's true. But that's maybe why you shouldn't do it.

[A]

Shit, maybe.

[F]

I mean, if I'm Bam, there's a

[A]

such thing as the flow of the game.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Not to be that guy, but there is a such thing as the flow of the game. Yes. The history books won't remember it, but we will. I will. Anyway. I don't hold this in the same regard as any of the Kobe shit.

[B]

Let me be clear. I am hating on this, but listening to y', all, if I. I'm Bam, I'm going for that.

[A]

None of my anger is at.

[F]

None of my.

[A]

None of my tightness is directed at Bam.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Bam did everything he was supposed to do at a home game with none of his team play playing his coach, asking him to, hey, show up with some energy and effort tonight with your mom in the stands and your girl in the stands, Nothing I have to say is about Bam.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[F]

However, for me, just. There was just this. Is that one moment around 77 to 80 when they're triple teaming him on the inbound and he gets the ball. He's not the. He's not a ball handler. He's not bringing the ball up the court normally. He's trying to get through three guys hoping they foul him. And they're doing their best not to foul him. And they're trying to take the ball from. Which they did once or twice.

[A]

He's foul baiting.

[F]

Yeah, I know. At that point, I hope I'm not blaming him, but I hoped he would have said, you know what? I've had a lot of fucking points.

[B]

It ain't worth it.

[F]

I would have Sit down.

[A]

I would have loved for him to even. Even match Kobe's 81.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

And be like, I'm honoring him and paying tribute. I wanted to get to that. I wanted to get to that number.

[B]

If I match it and it's time left, I don't give a how I'm gonna get me another point.

[A]

Okay. But that goes back to the amalgam of issues that are here outside of tanking. Well, related. Directly related to tanking is product on the floor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the time I sent y' all that text in the group chat. Oh, and also another product. Them. Where do you find these games? Because if you don't have league pass, you weren't tuning into the Wizards and the Heat. But by the time. By the time they funneled it to where everybody was watching, that was the most egregious part of the game. Last five, six, and seven minutes. Which is why so many people have these negative feelings. Cuz what we saw, we didn't see the whole. That wasn't basketball.

[F]

No, it was not basketball.

[A]

That wasn't basketball. That was a joke. When I. When I had text, I looked at the time. It was like 4 minutes and 53 seconds. What felt like 20 minutes later, it was a minute left in the game. It's not basketball. I looked at the score saying, yo, why is this game still on?

[F]

Yeah. 26 point Laffer should be done almost with just based on the clock. It shouldn't stop 10 times because we keep fouling the other team. We have 20. It's embarrassing.

[A]

Also, the referees. The referees y' all got. Y' all have to be under a microscope. The 44 free throw attempts for somebody that's viewed as not a scorer. Okay. Y' all are calling everything under the sun. That's related to the other issue, what's going on with some of the Lions in these games as it directly relates to gambling.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And that goes to another issue, which is related to the prediction market. Was there insider trading? Was there anybody that we gotta look. We don't know what's going on with them Porter brothers on the loop. We don't know what's going on with the Porter brothers out there. You have no idea how. If this is the product you want to put on the floor. I think Adam Silva. Adam Silver's falling off a little bit. He is. I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

He is.

[A]

He came in. He came in with a spark. Made a lot of really positive changes that I'm a fan of. But what he's Done in these recent years. It don't look the greatest.

[B]

He's fallen off in. In terms of the game. But on the business side, I don't think they've fallen off of at all.

[F]

Yeah, but the product is. And that's going to eventually.

[B]

But to some people that's. We don't care if the product as

[F]

long as we lean into the business.

[A]

At some point it'll bleed over the innovators. The true geniuses want to troubleshoot the problem before the impact hits the business. Yeah. Like somebody has to be able to recognize it. Although team sales are at an all time high.

[B]

But that might be what they on now because you see they having all these meetings about what can we do about tanking, what can we do about this. Like they see the problem.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe they are trying to course correct now before it affects. Like you said, you can't find a game.

[F]

You just tracking this game down.

[A]

Games are everywhere now.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. Every channel, guys. Here's one on Animal Planet. It's like every game there's like a different, you know, I mean every game has a different channel attached to it. I can't track it down. You mentioned the word ethical.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Bleacher Report made a very interesting article for the top 15 most ethical 70 point games. They took all the 70 point games and listed it from top to bottom. What was the most ethical versus the most unethical. And unethical is based on how much your team was up. True shooting percentage, you know, all those kinds of things. Like if you're 2 for 50. If you're 2 for 50, you keep shooting. That's considered like unethical.

[A]

Right.

[F]

Do you know what the most ethical game over 70 in NBA history is? What would y' all guess it would be?

[B]

Kobe, 81.

[A]

I would guess Kobe.

[D]

I would say Kobe is well same.

[F]

It's not a bad guess. It's number two. Number one is Luca's game.

[A]

I didn't remember Luca scoring 71.

[F]

73.

[A]

Oh yeah he did.

[F]

In 2024. Just two years ago. I know.

[A]

Yes he did.

[F]

I remember. I'm old enough to remember when 70 was a big ass deal. Now there's like five guys who've done it. You know, with Dame, Lillard, him, Donovan Mitchell, bam. You know, it's a lot. But he has 73 points in 45 minutes. 25 for 33. That's that ocean you talking about. 8 for 13 from 3:15 to 16 from 3 point percentage. True shooting percentage was high. And again they needed his points to Win the game. To your point earlier, Kobe, they needed his points up until the fourth quarter to win the game. He had that surge in the third when they were down and they needed them. So that matters. There's a bunch of Wilt Chamberlain games that are on the other end of that, just so y' all know, in case y' all care. But out of the top 15, they ranked BAMs number 11. So it's on the lower side. It's one of the more unethical games.

[A]

I'd like to hear what they have. Have rated worse.

[F]

I'm about to tell you again just

[A]

cuz I remember, listen, I was alive for the David Robinson game.

[F]

Yes, that was.

[A]

That was some too.

[F]

And we knew because he needed. He needed like 50 points to win the scoring title.

[A]

Okay, I'm going to get that last game of the season. I want to say that was against the Clippers. It was. Yeah. Get the out of here.

[D]

But it's actually 20 years since Kobe's 81 in January made 20 years since old.

[A]

Way to age me, buddy.

[D]

Do you think that this will happen again another 80 point 20 years later?

[B]

It's going to be much.

[D]

Or will it come before.

[B]

Before this going to happen next season?

[A]

Somebody's. Somebody's going to break a 100.

[D]

I think Wimy could.

[A]

Somebody's going to break 100. Somebody. I could see Luca going home and circling that. That event that just happened with Bamboo.

[B]

Circling the event maybe and trying his hardest just to. To honor Kobe.

[D]

Been texting Kobe after what I did.

[A]

Luca Wimby. Those are the only people I know with that kind of green light. Your green light gotta be. Gotta be some different fluorescent lime kind of green for you to get this off. So yeah, Luca Wimby, but I think somebody break a hundred. Devin Booker, somebody's just gonna get lights out one night and just go for it. Didn't we see Clay do it? Didn't Clay have like.

[F]

Clay had a big. But he took him out. He had 60 after like three quarters and they sat him down because he was up. Steve Kerr plays the game the right respects the game.

[B]

Somebody is going to literally go into the game with I want to try

[A]

to break it for sure. I'm talking about tip off.

[B]

It's like yo, yo, dog.

[A]

The problem with the game, that's the problem with Bam Adebayou's record. It just puts a highlight. It puts a flashlight on too many things that I don't think they want to pay that the league want attention on. I look at it like the steroid scandal with Bud Sealig in. In baseball, all these amazing things was happening, but they was going to press that one and hide that and suppress it to make sure it never came out same. Like, this is a mess. It is. And if he don't do something about it soon, like you don't want players waking up like, yo, you know what? Tonight I'm dropping a hundy. Yeah, I'm going, I'm going for tonight.

[D]

Drop it. 100 points.

[A]

Like, none of these stats are normal. The scoring is inflated. Like, think of some of the shit we saw. We saw Russell Westbrook average a triple double for multiple seasons.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. Again, that's a product of the game and it has a lot to do

[A]

with three point Joker might be close to averaging a triple double right now.

[F]

Yeah, he probably is.

[B]

He might be.

[F]

I mean it just makes historical comparison hard. Like in the triple double case. Rebounds are very different now than they were 20 years ago. A lot of teams because of advanced stats, they just go up the floor. Once that shot goes up, they go back up the floor. So a lot of times point guards now getting rebounds that Biggs were getting before, you know, so the game is different. But of the number 16 real fast. 70, Wilt 73. Number 15, Wilt 78. Number 14 was Elgin Baylor 71.

[A]

Fuck out of here. Elgin Baylor.

[F]

Number 13 was Wilt 72. 12 was Devin Booker 70.

[B]

Where was Wilt Hunt, the alleged hunted? Where was that at?

[F]

Why y' all gotta stop with this alleged hunt? I'm never.

[B]

I'm hating on that too, yo.

[A]

After that bam game, I'm shocked he didn't have 150 Wilt yo rules for different days.

[F]

Number five is number five on. It's a more. It's a fairly ethical game, especially compared to Wilt's other ones because they also look at potential assists. Like times where you just look the guy off just to. Just to Jack. He didn't do that this game. Wilt was 36 for 63 in that 100 point in that 100 point game and shot 28 or 32 from free throws, which is the difference. Wilt missed his free throws most nights.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So that was the big night.

[A]

He hit.

[B]

He hit.

[A]

And I offer some pushback to the people say the history books. The history books will never forget. I disagree with that. I disagree with that.

[B]

I think with enough time, I think,

[A]

I think of sports. I think y' all sleep on how savvy sports fans are and how long they live.

[C]

I agree. Cuz Even the David Robinson as a Spurs fan like that. That no one ever talked about that game.

[A]

When you look at certain records, you, your eyes. Even if your brain can't compute, your eyes will just know who's supposed to be up there, what. Where they belong and who's not supposed to be there. Unfortunately, that's what's going to happen with Bam. There's a bunch of people that have won finals MVP that. Who remembers the fucking 82 when the Sixers win.

[F]

Cornbread.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Like who cares? This is not something that hit near and dear to any sports fans heart. And if I were Adam Silver, I would want the erasure of it immediately.

[F]

As a Kobe staying on the game for sure. As a Kobe. Kobe. Stan. I. I gotta say that is part of my hate too. If I. If I'm.

[C]

I think a lot of people. That's what it's based on.

[F]

It's like Wilt. Kobe makes sense. Wilt, Adebayo, Kobe.

[B]

And then when you see.

[F]

Doesn't make sense.

[B]

Like again, it's back to that. For me. That's what I hate coming when you see like you see how. Okay, well a lot of us didn't see that. So it is what it is. That's a record that you thought would never even be touched. Never even get close.

[A]

Close to it. Nobody saw it unless you were there on site.

[F]

Right, right.

[B]

So move that one to the side.

[F]

I've met somebody who was there who took the stats for that game. Harvey Pollock.

[A]

My dad says the same thing. He's the one that told us about the circus being in town.

[F]

Okay. The whole story for these moon landing people.

[D]

Do you think when it's all said and done.

[A]

But you could watch. I'm sorry bdot. You could watch practice film of Wilt from any time and totally understand.

[C]

Or just any of the other games that didn't get recorded.

[B]

It was like playing with little kids.

[A]

Yeah, you could totally get it.

[D]

Official price.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Yeah, it's the same.

[C]

I do think. I mean not to reiterate, but I think that the onus really falls on the Wizards in this. And just the league not punishing teams for tanking. Like I don't like putting any of the blame on Bam or I'm not doing that.

[F]

I don't think he's a great.

[A]

Congratulations to Bam.

[C]

It's an NBA problem to me.

[A]

Not.

[C]

Not a Bam problem.

[A]

And you did it. Listen, when people start hitting the 70, 80, 90, 90 points range, what's most impressive to me is the sheer conditioning. It takes to do that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Word. Yeah.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Told secondary is the shot. Your shot selection and that you made.

[B]

And he was shooting until.

[C]

Until that fourth quarter like his percentages were. I was like, oh, it was third quarter. He was still.

[A]

Yeah. But the, the. His teammates missing free throws front of the rim to try to get him a rebound so he can get more points. That Eric Spoltra. That Eric Spoelstra challenge. When Eric Spoelstra is historically known for not challenging. I think he had the least amount of challenges all last season he's been vocal about this. So now you challenge him to get extra possession. I mean, it was just sheer fuckery going on out there.

[C]

It was.

[A]

And if you're the wizard, you're trying to tank. Absolutely. Good for y'. All. Good for y'. All. Do you think when his good for

[D]

y' all playing career is all said and done, this will help strengthen his case for maybe a Hall of Fame career? I mean, he has no championships, three time all star.

[C]

He's respectfully. I don't think that he was headed to the hall of Fame.

[F]

Only thing that will put Bam out of bio in the hall of Fame is if he broke the all time record. Then I think you have to put him in. If he scored 101 points.

[A]

I disagree with him.

[B]

I don't agree with that.

[A]

I think Bam could totally make the hall of Fame. He's a gold medalist. He's a champion.

[F]

If he retires right now.

[A]

No, not right now. Oh, okay.

[F]

He has some.

[A]

If Bam gets. If Bam gets another ring. Let's say he. His. His game is such that he is in contention for finals mvp. I think you kind of have to consider. Consider him. Yeah, we've put worse in there.

[C]

I mean, that's probably true.

[F]

Yeah, we've put worse in there.

[A]

Is not the best.

[F]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

I'm just saying he already is pretty accomplished. We're not just talking about some bum.

[F]

Yeah, true.

[A]

And he's a champion already.

[F]

No, he Olympic champion. He didn't win NBA championship.

[B]

Yeah, he don't have no rings.

[A]

Just went to the finals.

[F]

Yeah, he went to the finals with five times with those two Jimmy. Those Jimmy Butler teams and he was. Went with. They did a lot with a little by historical standard, they overachieved. They were like the eight seed one time, I think.

[A]

Right. I was under the impression he had one. So scratch what I said. But if he gets two, that's what I don't. I don't think it's impossible though.

[F]

It's not impossible, I think. But if he retired now, he wouldn't be. Unless he had. If he scored 101, I think you got to put him in the hall. But other than that, I don't even think that shit. If a motherfucker is all time single game scorer, I think you.

[B]

That ain't enough.

[F]

All right, we. We might disagree to disagree on that. But score 100.

[A]

I don't think that's enough.

[B]

I don't think that's enough.

[A]

Could get hot one night.

[F]

Okay, maybe if Matt McClun gets hot one night. No, but if. If a all star with the resume you just laid out also scores 101 points in a game, I think a case could be made. I think a really good case could be made.

[A]

But I just watched the NFL hall of Fame tell Bill Belichick's resume to kick rock.

[B]

Get the fuck out of him.

[F]

But you know, that was political and some other shit.

[A]

I'm just saying at some point, human mind, you have to take into account other people that how do they just feel about you, period.

[F]

And I think. I think he's loved.

[A]

The man's likable.

[F]

That's something he's loved. And also it's the Basketball hall of Fame, his Kentucky career. Add that to it. I mean, it's a case again. Olympic, Olympic medals, all that shit. But by the way, just since we. I know we don't normally do sports. Up top. But this isn't really a sports conversation. Some bad news for some of you all who are really into him. Dwight Howard has announced his retirement. Retirement from basketball?

[A]

I thought he was already retired.

[C]

I didn't know he was here.

[A]

No, he was playing in China or some shit. He was playing overseas.

[B]

But I thought he retired from the NBA.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it even. But that doesn't mean that he retired as an athlete.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's saying I retired. He's playing basketball, period. Not with balls. He's still gonna play with balls.

[C]

Speaking of boy toys.

[A]

He's still gonna play with balls. That's for sure.

[B]

Eight balls too.

[A]

Coked up.

[F]

Lot of balls.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Coked up. That's got to hurt a gentleman.

[B]

I don't even.

[A]

I. I ain't letting a coked up girl just grab my. Grab on my ball. Think I'm letting Dwight out with that. That's craziness.

[F]

Oh yeah. I.

[A]

Gay is tough. Any congratulations to Dwight Howard?

[B]

Congratulations, indeed.

[A]

Go ahead, man. Man. We assuming that he's announcing his retirement based off the recent scandals, Right?

[F]

What he said is he wants to focus on family.

[A]

H, Mark, your tone don't trick me. I know what you be doing. That tone don't trick me.

[B]

We used to Mark. By now.

[A]

Yeah. What do you think about it? I don't know what you think about that.

[F]

I think that focusing on family is always good. I think that sometimes.

[C]

I never thought about it that way.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Would you interview his wife?

[C]

He's probably reaching out.

[A]

Yeah, he did.

[F]

You mean again?

[A]

Oh, you've interviewed her already?

[F]

No, I'm just. No, I would interview him or her. Or maybe he would prefer both.

[A]

Yo, this guy. What? See what you did? Yo, the chain is mine. Mark, I know you went home and wrote some jokes with the chain. Shut up.

[B]

Damn it.

[A]

Anyway, you shining, nigga. You're shining anyway. Thank you, bd. You can't buy. Buy this. Yeah, you gotta earn. You gotta earn this bad boy. So I heard you can do it one day. It could be yours.

[F]

It could be mine.

[A]

It could be yours.

[D]

Okay, upgrade me.

[A]

Listen, just keep on. Ice and Parks keep stepping to their business, man. It could be your. I'll see you.

[F]

Gotcha.

[A]

What else? What else is important? What else is unimportant? What needs our attention most out there? Want to get off the music or.83 points.

[B]

I was over that.

[A]

I see a lot of y' all out there killing me about my paradise take.

[B]

I don't know why

[A]

I read the comments.

[B]

What they saying.

[A]

I'm not immune. I hurt like y'. All.

[C]

Oh, there's only like that.

[D]

Do I not bleed?

[A]

Yeah, they were. They were rather harsh that I opened up with. You were rather paradise the day after it came out and that I opened up the pod with. Spoiler alert. Some fair points were made. However, I am here to double down on exactly what I was saying. And this is what I'm saying about paradise. Actually, this is what I'm saying. And I'm not married. So I'm looking to brother Mark and brother Parks for advice here. I know me and I saw on

[C]

the way soon come.

[A]

Doesn't the marriage shit say the marriage shit? Doesn't the marriage say till death do us part?

[C]

It does.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

It's a key.

[A]

Key Brings me to one of my main problems with paradise.

[C]

Okay, let's hear it.

[A]

Boy, she slid. Pretty easy for the world to be coming to an end.

[C]

Wait, who?

[A]

His wife.

[C]

She slide?

[A]

She did slide. I'm talking about when they. When she was looking for a place to live. I'm not talking about about later. I'm talking about she's about to die. The Asteroid is. Asteroid is coming. And she's in the street looking like this, and she's talking to the little boy. She still didn't have nowhere to go. And then homeboy came, and he said,

[B]

we got a safe spot.

[A]

We got a spot with some food, condoms, lube. Yeah, some lube, baby oils, drugs, and a nurse just come double on top. She didn't say. She didn't even ask no questions. She just ran with him.

[B]

You deadass.

[C]

I mean, it's the end of the world.

[A]

I want my wife to die. Did we part already? Yeah, she was all the way over there.

[F]

Y' all partied.

[A]

You dipped on me. I know it's. I know it's a tough choice, but the vow means something. Something.

[C]

Nah, go to the shelter, baby. Go ahead.

[D]

She didn't.

[A]

Okay, so fine. So, so fine. You just. You chose too fast. What? My wife die? What are you not understanding about what I'm saying? But cool.

[B]

Would you die?

[A]

That's a weirdo thought. If I'm married, yes.

[B]

You lying. If I'm.

[A]

If I'm married, yes.

[F]

I can't.

[A]

I can't live another day full of. And you're like, listen, the head scientist dude says those that live will wish they don't did that. Wish they did die.

[B]

And I'll take that chance.

[A]

But anyway, I submit to y' all theory. I got weird thinking sometimes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

She goes with homeboy, he gets horny, tries it. She slaps his hand off. Off. Slaps his hand off a. Get Bow.

[F]

Hey, get off my.

[D]

It's the end of the world, baby.

[A]

He was going for it. Hey, hey. Nothing. Me, too. Nothing me, too can do down here.

[B]

Stop, man.

[A]

Stop. Hey. The end of the world. Hey, Houdini said it. They come out at night.

[C]

Listen, if there's one thing we learned from the Heat Wizards game is sometimes the guy that you don't expect to hit the shot, if he goes for it, maybe he'd get it.

[A]

Hey, that's why I'm not mad at him. I'm not. I'm not totally not mad. He was shooting the shot, but she was faithful. Slapped his hand.

[B]

Get on my.

[A]

Get on me. Yo, I'm here for you. I'm your friend. We got to do a bid together now. Do anything that you guys need. Except that.

[B]

Except that. Give you the cue.

[C]

The meatloaf.

[A]

You can't get this. I'm like, oh, she held it down. Good thing she didn't kill herself. All right. She held it down. Fine. So now. And this is where I'll end now husband comes looking. He found the spot that they was at. Found the radio she used. Was just 12. Was just 12 days too late. And he looked up to the side after already meeting some nigga. That's implying he beat or wanted to beat.

[B]

He definitely implied he beat.

[A]

So he looked to the side. And this got the nerve to knit herself on the carpet. She you did you knit your face on a rug next to this white baby. And this. That wanna. While I had a hijack a jet, I searched high and low. And you are in here. You in here.

[C]

In fairness, she was three years in the. In the. The shelter.

[A]

Sure. Yeah, I'm pretty. No. Hey. Hey. Well, when you knit, knit your face alone at the top, you knit it up there with this little white family. Well, I got a white baby strapped to my chest. I got a white baby, and you got a white baby. How the did it end of the world turn out? Like your white people will rewrite history, won't it? How did this happen anyway? I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Watch the show.

[F]

Man up.

[C]

I was like, I'm holding. I hope that it's gonna. It's gonna come.

[A]

Now I gotta ask my. My. My girl if she know how to sew.

[B]

Yo, you gonna be in there knitting.

[A]

Don't sew with no.

[B]

And what else you was knitting? You ain't just knit the. The picture.

[A]

And how did you knit? Did you knit like dudes teach girls how to shoot pool at that first.

[F]

That first.

[A]

That first pool bite behind your hands. And how did you knit? Was it like Patrick Swy in. In Ghost with the mud with the mud bombs. Hey, one day we got to talk about that. All of the things that when a guy teaches you how to do it, he's doing it with a little. With a little bowling,

[D]

tennis, working out the training.

[A]

Working out, working out. That's a fact. Music. Damn. Music is on the list. No music. Yeah. Teach you how to rap. Teach you how to. I'm.

[C]

Teach you how to play his piano a little bit. You know what I mean?

[F]

Teach you how to hold these sticks.

[A]

Yeah. Look at all the girls out there that got deals. The wheels are turning. DJ they was

[C]

the influencers. Didn't just learn how to dj.

[A]

DJ verified. Yeah. All the girl DJ they was Any new habit a girl learns or someone was trying to. That's a joke. That's a look at Mark.

[B]

That's a joke.

[A]

I'm kidding.

[C]

No, say someone was trying to. They didn't necessarily necessarily to learn how to DJ or.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

[C]

But someone was trying.

[B]

Somebody definitely trying.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[F]

So you asked about Neighbors. Did you get a chance to watch it?

[A]

I started episode one. I didn't finish it.

[C]

That was a mess. I tried.

[F]

I did the same thing. I only got two episodes. I dozed. Not because it was bad, but just because I couldn't get to it. But I wanted to know, because y' all been swearing by that that was

[A]

like, some prime to be viewing.

[B]

This shit is crash out central over the smallest. That's what I love about it. They just crash in completely out over insignificant and just refuse to let it go.

[C]

I don't know if they should have started with the beach episode because it wasn't a compelling argument.

[A]

Some of the other.

[B]

That was the beach one was a little.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't know how you stuck with the show. Because I was watching that.

[F]

I was like, I didn't love it after one. Like I said, it didn't, like, grab my attention, but I was also tired. But I was like, I'm. I'm. I'm going skip the episode two and watch it now.

[C]

It did start DTF St. Louis. And that seems. I'm not sure if it's serious or a comedy or serious.

[A]

Both.

[F]

It's a little bit.

[C]

Okay. I only watched one episode.

[F]

My wife is hooked on that. I just started watching it.

[C]

My wife was like, what the is this?

[A]

How many episodes are out?

[D]

Two.

[F]

Two.

[B]

And I found that out after episode two, and I was tight.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, this is good. I'm trying to let the beat build with that one.

[B]

Nah, you'll like this. This is. And it got our man in it.

[A]

That's why I'm trying to let the beat build. Yeah.

[D]

Be a TV God, man.

[A]

Well, you got to get a tv. Yeah, that too.

[F]

One last show real quick. Rooster.

[A]

Rooster.

[F]

Especially for yours out there.

[A]

For you with asthma out there.

[F]

Steve Carell. Steve Carell. It only one episode has been on. The second one may have dropped today, but it's amazing. It's already smart and funny and one of the better shows that I've seen in the last year.

[C]

It does look good.

[A]

Anything Steve Carell.

[F]

You can't miss.

[A]

It gets me.

[F]

You can't miss.

[A]

And on Amazon Prime. This is not an ad. Scarpetta. Scarpetta. Nicole Kidney.

[C]

I saw that. Is it good?

[A]

Is that. I didn't start it yet. Oh. I'm letting the shows build for my vacation.

[C]

I finished Peter in the Seven Kingdoms, and I don't see why people recommended that so hard. It was cool, but it wasn't like,

[B]

oh, God, you gotta watch it.

[C]

Yeah, mad. I spent my 18 to get back on HBO for that, but now there's other shit there.

[B]

So y' all still with Morning Show?

[A]

Oh, yeah, but I haven't. I haven't after season two.

[F]

I love it. What I did. I just wanted to wait for the whole season to carry through that and shrinking. I've been kind of waiting on. I only watched the first two episodes of the latest seasons, and I'm gonna just watch them all at once.

[C]

Back already?

[B]

No, no, I'm just. I know y' all have started watching late.

[F]

Yeah, I didn't watch the most recent. The most recent? See, I only watched the first couple, but it was great. I just wanted to get watching.

[D]

I agree with Joe. You gotta let the beat build because you get committed to these shows, and all of a sudden they give them the 86 and it's done. You're like, yo, what happened?

[A]

That is annoying.

[F]

Yo, rap did that to me. I'm a heartbroken when they. When they cancel.

[D]

HBO is good for doing that, man. They did it for how to make. Make it in America.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. That was a great show.

[A]

And just they don't. Some of these shows don't make cliffhangers the way they used to. Like, you'll be thinking that it's about 10, 20 minutes left in the show, and it ain't. It ended. You're like, what the Was that Peacock

[B]

did that with a lot of their shows. Once they got the NBA, they x Mad Shows, season two. Oh, well, we. We knew. We said season three was coming.

[A]

It's not.

[C]

Yeah, they got NBA Love Island.

[A]

We good. We good. Actually, that's one of the things love about that I do love about this season of Paradise. They give you something that looks like it could be the end, and there's 20 minutes left and there's like, four more slots where you think it could be the end. That is pretty dope. But fuck paradise this season.

[C]

I'm holding out hope, man. I'm holding out hope.

[B]

It's very, very little hope for me.

[A]

All right, what else? What else? What else is going on out there?

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

Actually, Janet Jackson hates the Michael Jackson movie.

[F]

Yes, allegedly.

[A]

Why? Oh, you know, she hates that movie.

[C]

Well, for starters, she's not.

[A]

She should.

[F]

She got eyes.

[A]

What'd you say, Bart?

[C]

She's not in it.

[A]

I mean, but she's a Jackson.

[C]

She is a Jackson.

[A]

The premiere was the other day. Jermaine and A body was there. They let the whole movie play. And allegedly at the end, Janet had a few choice words about everything under the sun. From the makeup that was done, from some of the acting that was displayed, how some of the characters walked, how they talked. She was just very critical of the film to the point where allegedly Jermaine had to say something because, you know, his son is the one that's playing Michael. What's his name?

[F]

Jafar.

[A]

Jafar. His son is playing him. So Jermaine stood on business, said, you shut the up, get the out. You're going to miss the run. You're going to miss the wave and just move it.

[B]

Could this be hate?

[C]

It could be.

[B]

Cuz you said she's not in the movie.

[D]

I'm sure.

[B]

Now I'm going to nitpick it apart because. Wait, y' all don't have me in this.

[D]

I'm sure the producers approached her at some point and said, hey, you want to be in this movie?

[A]

And she probably. I don't think that Janet Jackson is. Hey. Dating on the Hulu movie that they're making about her brother.

[F]

Oh.

[B]

Calling it a whole.

[A]

That's just gonna do Jurassic park numbers.

[B]

That's just gonna do numbers.

[F]

Yeah, but I mean, it's Michael Jackson. It's Michael Jackson. That doesn't speak to the quality. I agree with you.

[A]

And I think you got Jurassic park up. Where's Jurassic Park?

[C]

Which Jurassic Park?

[F]

It's a fair question.

[A]

Yeah. Word.

[F]

I. I've watched everything that is available for this film. I wasn't moved by it. I didn't love the acting. Sometimes you can do a good impersonation but not have good acting. The storyline didn't seem compelling. Again, I want to watch it with an open mind because I'm a big Michael Jackson fan.

[A]

It looks like a Lifetime version of. That's what it looks like and feels like.

[C]

The trailers do make it feel a little bit.

[B]

I spoke to somebody that went to the premiere. It was the exact opposite.

[A]

Do you trust Jermaine to have put all of the budget money into the movie? I'm just asking a question.

[B]

Gotta put a little something in the.

[A]

Come on. And that's my son. Oh, I'm triple dipping. I'm triple dipping. This budget. Come on. You shouldn't. Me? Yeah. Don't do that.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

If I'm j. If I'm. Janet has. Has seen too much success on her own and with her brother. I. I don't think any of this is her hating. I think it's her being vocal with it being the first time she's seen that movie. Like many of the people that were there.

[F]

There were some. There are other reports though that say that Janet has always had this weird tension and competition with Michael and that she's always kind of felt like second fiddle and that her criticism is playing out of that.

[A]

It could be hate.

[C]

It could be hate not from her, but for other people hating on her.

[F]

Right. I just want to put that out there as her. Because the sources that are saying. There are sources that are saying what I just said about Janet and then there are other sources just saying the movie is shit and Janet was right.

[A]

But in my 45 years, that's my first time ever hearing that, that there was this jealous type of relationship.

[F]

I've never heard that either. It could be Jermaine's.

[A]

The timing is odd.

[F]

The timing is odd. It could be bubbling up now because it's. People are older and there's less protection around media protection around. There's a thinner wall between them and the media. I don't know. What I know for sure is that they're at war right now. And it's gonna play out throughout the press run that we've heard from pretty reliable sources. You know, I can't.

[A]

Can't.

[F]

I'll have a better idea who's right when I see the movie.

[B]

You think, you think Janet's going to do a press run on the movie?

[F]

I don't think she going say anything.

[A]

No, she don't say you're not going to hear peep out of Janet.

[F]

Yeah, just show them that way. The two options were praise the movie

[B]

or not say anything or don't say anything.

[F]

Yeah, and I think she's going to not say anything.

[D]

Yeah, we'll see when it comes out. Have some class who's right and who's wrong at the end of the day, that's Janet Jackson.

[A]

Y know this movie is about to be bad, but we can't say it cuz we black.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going say it once I

[A]

go see it, it's bad.

[B]

I'm going if bad. I'm going to on it.

[D]

Biopics are tricky though, too.

[A]

Right.

[D]

Because it's like some could be really good like Selena and some could be really bad like Notorious. Choose your poison.

[A]

Yeah, I guess Notorious was bad, man.

[F]

This ain't gonna be a Notorious bag because I think they're gonna put more money in the budget. The storyline, the acting, there's some things about it that will be better and.

[A]

And I Honestly don't think that this movie is for my age group. Yeah, maybe because your point, your point be that your point is up. It's for whoever coming to America two was for.

[B]

No.

[F]

Who was that for?

[C]

It could be.

[A]

Who is that for? Cause my response to what you said, which was a great point that you made. Yeah. But if in this family we've already had an amazing biopic. Yeah. That changes things a little bit. I've seen at least three. Most memorable, of course, is the Jackson five. Of course American. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. And if you've seen that and you've seen some of the other Michael Jackson stories that were well done.

[C]

Content.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Then this is like, this is like. This is like the McDonald's CEO taking a bite of the burger.

[D]

It's a period piece though, right? It's like during, like off the wall thrill.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I mean a lot of good. I mean, but Ray was like that. I mean like a lot of biopics stop at a certain period in your life.

[A]

Don't mention Ray. Again with this foolishness.

[F]

I'm only talking about time period. I'm only talking about time period. Nothing else. Just time period, period. And then they kind of just flash at the end of the movie. You know, Ray for the next 30 years was da da, da, da. But it kind of stops at him not doing the Jim Crow thing.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

I think in this case the period could be dope. I actually think it's a great period to cover of Michael Jackson.

[D]

Sure.

[F]

It just doesn't look well done.

[A]

Even that though the period that you're talking about, that period, that period is what it is. Cemented. Cemented all time already. I want to see some of the later because the family is producing it. It's questionable what beef worthy they'll put in there or what unknown little facts and tidbits will put in there. So now you're just cookie cutting me to death.

[B]

So what if this is one?

[A]

You're gonna show me him burning his

[B]

hair, you know what I'm saying?

[A]

You're gonna show me him beefing with his brothers, the tour, how that happened. What if it's.

[B]

What, what if this is one? Like we get enough success on this and then we come back and do a second another part of his life later on.

[D]

A sequel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is Michael B. Jordan in it? Who's in the sequel? I'll tell you. I'll tell you what's going to happen is. Is Ryan Coogler doing it?

[C]

Back to the hate Cuz then you

[A]

got me back to the hate.

[C]

Specifically. I do think it's possible that Janet has a different standard of artistic excellence than maybe the rest of the she

[F]

was in I get Married one and two.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about film. I'm just talking about like she has been.

[A]

Wait, let's push back on even that. Both of those movies will be a lot better than this Michael Jackson movie.

[B]

Act like this movie about to be.

[F]

I actually like both of those movies. It was just a good time.

[A]

Great joke.

[B]

I like the movies.

[F]

I love the movies.

[A]

Yeah, you was talking about those movies like the MTV movie Beyonce did. What movie was that? Hip hop opera.

[F]

Hip Hopper.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Carpenter.

[A]

Such a good time in hip hop. What year was that?

[F]

That was. Was that.

[A]

Yeah, we don't talk about that enough.

[F]

I think we talk about just as much as we should Leave that alone.

[A]

Leave that where it is. Rock Nation Eclipse. Hey, I'm not playing with you. Rock Nation. That's one of the things that they should allow you to talk about is that.

[B]

Do it then.

[A]

Go ahead, lead us. And what's his name was in it right now.

[D]

It was an all star cast.

[A]

Okay, I'm out of here.

[D]

I'm out of here.

[C]

Apparently it was almost Terrence Howard.

[A]

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[D]

I got in 2007.

[A]

In 07?

[D]

Yeah, in 07.

[A]

Ice. When did you get yours? A couple years ago. Oh, like 20, 23 or some. Yeah.

[F]

Decades later.

[A]

Oh, BDOT been Adam.

[F]

Yeah, he up on shit. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Heard that Hot 97 commercial went to

[A]

Dr. De La Russo. I was like, I got you. Okay. Our girl Damona's here. Big Mona. Welcome, welcome, welcome, Mona. How you doing?

[E]

I'm great. How are y'? All?

[A]

Real good, real good. Good to see you. Good to have you. Who's ready to get into some new music?

[C]

Let's do it.

[A]

Let's do it. Okay. This is the week I finally have B Dot's number. Uh.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

It was only one big release and nothing else came out. So I thought, according to B Dot, go ahead and do your little snarky, smug.

[D]

You said there was a lot of music that came. I think the most prominent release was Jack Harlow's album Monica, and I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

[A]

All right. Do we know who Monica is? Nah, it's not like before I do before I give a take on this. It's not like his mom, his foster mom is this attached to, like, a black woman who raised him, found him at a fucking firehouse and took. Cause if that's Monica, then I'm chilling.

[C]

Or Lewinsky.

[A]

Yeah, I'm chilling on her, too. I'm chilling on her too.

[D]

Now we don't know, but we do know that, like, he's in love. It's the easy listen. And it's only nine tracks, 28.

[A]

Sorry, slow down. I didn't know he was in love.

[C]

Yeah, well, now you know.

[A]

I thought he was stuck in. I thought he was stuck in Atlantic Records music label purgatory.

[F]

Yeah, this is a lot.

[A]

I thought with the regime change and with Elliot Grange up there that he was just kind of in limbo last time. I remember hearing from Jack Harlo three years ago.

[C]

It's been a while.

[A]

Yeah, it's been.

[F]

Came out three years ago.

[A]

Hey, mostly do disappear after Drake comes to the Kentucky Derby and looks at. Looks at a horse race. Any of the. That Drake just pop up for. With like, for one album cycle. They normally get ghosts for the next few years.

[B]

Yeah, they lay there.

[A]

So Jack Harlo, I open my phone on itunes. His album is sitting there. I press it. Nothing is previewable. I said Hm. That's odd. I close out the itunes. I open the itunes again.

[B]

Maybe it's a glitch or something.

[A]

I thought it was my phone.

[B]

Tricky. Okay.

[A]

And I go back to it and it says, album only. Album only. Album only. Album only. You cannot press preview one song. I said, jinkies, let's see if I can hear it on streaming. Because it's not Jack. Jack is not an automatic cop for me.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

I gotta hear something. So I go over to the stream world and I type it in and it's there and I press play. Back to you, B Dot.

[D]

Yeah, you press play. I just want, you know, everyone to hedge the expectations because this is not

[A]

a rap album at all.

[C]

At all.

[D]

If you're looking for that. Keep it moving.

[C]

I don't know if there's one rap on it.

[A]

It's not.

[D]

It's not, you know, and it's. It's not bad music, but it's not rap music. You know, it's like a neo soul album.

[C]

It's very neo soul coded.

[D]

It's like. Only thing that's missing is like a Remy Shan feature. And

[A]

I'm gonna play a little for you.

[D]

Play it. It's like Coffee Shop rap. Like, that's what it sounds like.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I wouldn't put rap in the conversation at all.

[B]

Coffee Shop music, It's actually classified as an R B soul album. It's not even listed under rap.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

So.

[C]

So how do we think he did as a.

[D]

If you take it. If you listen. If listening from that lens, it's not bad. It's. It's pretty good. It's okay, because I was looking forward to Jackman, that sort of bag because I really enjoyed that project, but it's definitely a departure from that.

[F]

It ain't Jackman at all.

[A]

It's not at all.

[C]

No.

[B]

Just the same thing, Jack.

[A]

This is track one. This is called Trade Places. I'll just give you all a quick preview so you understand some of what Beat out is saying with this R B. This beat is funky. Sounds like if Tribe Called Quest were white. Yeah, this is definitely a Tribe Called Colonizer.

[C]

That's funny.

[A]

We'll go to two.

[D]

This is lonesome. It's like.

[A]

Sound like. Sound like he found Russ's old BlackBerry from when he was trying to get signed. Sound like a rust demo from.

[C]

Sounds like a little black Miller knockoffy. A little bit.

[D]

Rest in Peace, Mac Miller.

[C]

Rest in Peace, Mac Miller.

[A]

But he.

[C]

He dabbled in some ne.

[B]

Fisherman.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm about to say oh, you thinking. You thinking about it, B. Think about bringing some smoke as well. That musicality backed you down. Listen, this sounds cute.

[F]

It's fine.

[C]

It's not bad.

[F]

Number five.

[A]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[C]

It's not good to me.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

It sounds like a rapper deciding he wanted to sing and is decent at coming up with a melody and had a really good production team and good backup vocalists and made it work. But I wouldn't describe it as like a very good neo song.

[A]

I can hear this as I check into the SAI on a Thursday afternoon. This music I write, 80 degree something like.

[F]

I don't think about the lyrics. I'm just. It's just vibing.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. This is Move along number track five.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Mark does the opposite of me. When these albums come out, I look for the worst song for me to trash on air. He looks for the song that might be a groove.

[F]

Only one.

[D]

That's how I feel about the next one. All My Friends. It's like a bop.

[F]

Oh, that's All My Friends.

[A]

A bop?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, good.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. This is All My Friends right here. Jack, you getting a lot of air time with this bullshit. I'm cutting it off in two seconds to give you your. Just do it.

[D]

Sounds like. Hey, can I get a chai tea latte? You know, croissant?

[A]

Oh, yeah. I hated this song.

[D]

You know, it's like that kind of vibe.

[A]

I absolutely hated this song.

[F]

Yes. But ate the. Actually, this ain't the one.

[A]

Actually.

[C]

I listened to this in the shower and it was perfectly fine for.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

I didn't do the legs today.

[F]

It's all fine. Like, it's just background music.

[C]

Skip the legs music for sure.

[A]

My problem with this is the white privilege. Sorry, sorry. I'm gonna call it out on Ramadan, Okay? It's the white privilege. And this, it's the old. Fool us with some good hip hop and then make the turn. Make the turn later. Do the country turn or the rock

[D]

turn or the rock turn.

[A]

My problem. Yeah, but I mean, when Post Malone did it, boy, did he have some slaps coming. Yeah, when he finished all that Allen Iverson stuff, some slaps were on the way. Don't make me pull up that Burning Hollywood album. Don't make me pull that album up. And the country album wasn't bad. Look at me glazing Post Malone again. He didn't do it like Post Malone. To me, this sounds like.

[C]

I think he was trying to.

[A]

I know. And that's back to the white privilege. This sound like, you know, white people take the seasonings from. From every everywhere. This sound like a Johnny album.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

Oh, shit.

[A]

Like, this sound like he heard all his favorite black slaps at a cookout. This sound like, what in the name of Glenn. This sound like a Glenn Lewis. This sounds like a Glenn Lewis. This sounds like a. This gym. Is this a Jimmy Kozier album? What in the name of Sometimes I love her and sometimes I love her not is the going on here?

[D]

I think he did an interview with the New York Post and he said that he was blacker at this sound.

[C]

Huh.

[D]

That's gonna get some black. Yeah, blacker. I know that's gonna get some backlash,

[C]

but I think it was time. I hope it was the Times.

[D]

It was New York Times with not Post. Not. Did I say the Post? You said the Post. I said my bad New York Times. And he said that he, like the sound was blacker or something like that.

[A]

You didn't retreat into a whiter genre. In fact, you arguably went into deeper into.

[F]

I got black music.

[A]

Yeah, deeper into. That's what I'm saying. It feels like you were at an Atlanta based cookout or function. Right.

[B]

He was with Monica.

[A]

Your girlfriend Monica. Y' all was fly at the time. You sent her to go make a plate because future, somebody did her already. She comfortable in the cookout, walking around. And a Gunner slap came on. This sound like you tried your best, Gunner.

[C]

Oh, I don't get it. No, it sounds like he was trying his best gunners. I don't know.

[A]

Sounds like sad white Gunner without the bid. This sounds like Gunner without the fucking Young Thug case.

[C]

It's way too neo, so soul coded to compare it to Gunner.

[A]

For me, personally, this shit is a fucking catastrophe.

[C]

I'm with you on that.

[A]

I'm with you there.

[B]

But just don't compare. Don't even mention this with nothing Gunnar has done.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

That is disrespectful. Very.

[C]

In the context of the New York Times, people interviewing him, who I like,

[A]

typically, I love them.

[C]

This feels like. A white guy making, quote, unquote, black music for white guys that wanna.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, wanna fit in. Yeah.

[B]

You know the meme with the dude in the pool and the girl, he's like, yo, my name is Chad.

[C]

This is his playlist.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with y'. All. And I'm not saying that every song on here is bad. It's not bad. What I'm saying is it's well produced. It's produced it. What I'm saying is when you handed this in to Drama, Drama didn't want to yell on this. How about that?

[F]

I noticed.

[A]

Drama didn't want. Drama didn't want to scream over this.

[D]

No, about that. I looked at the credits. There was no Generation now attached. It's just Atlantic Records.

[A]

Did you know that Freeze, fam.

[C]

Now that you're Death Row,

[A]

Come to Death Row. Yo, Freeze being to come to Death Row guy is hilarious. They're rebranding from that Shook stuff. Oh. Oh, man.

[D]

So, yeah, I don't know. He's still working with Drama. I have to call Drama up.

[A]

Drama's my man. Does it say Rock Nation? There's Drama. Drama.

[B]

Atlantic Record hurts.

[A]

It's trouble. Drama. That's why it sound like this. Drama ain't want to scream on this. Drama heard this and was like, you know what? You can go free. You can walk free, yo, if this is what you're doing. And now you're gonna turn back white again. I'm now playing this All My Friends shit again. Let me hear what the hell he's talking about. Do, do, do, do Always have a love though let's see here.

[F]

Way too often telling me slow down

[E]

and be cautious

[F]

All I know is this time is different. Let's just call it.

[A]

This is really bold. I want to know what Monica did to this guy. This is really bold for him to get in the booth three years later and just croon.

[C]

She was sucking his toes.

[B]

She turned them out.

[A]

She him up out. She got him dropped from Generation Now Atlantic ain't spend 10 cent from. I even know it was dropping. Yeah, but what was genius about the marketing is good thing it wasn't previewable, I tell you. I'll tell you that on purpose. Yeah, yeah. You did the right thing. You did the right thing. Shout out to Jack Harlow. I hope you make black music again soon.

[B]

He's blacker.

[A]

I like when the white people make like. The white people that I like make black music. Like, it's cool when. But then they always go back. They always go back.

[D]

It's a chosen horse a lot of times, right? Like, the white rapper comes into the game, they get accepted, and then they make that pivot into, like, rock or country or some sort of alternative.

[A]

Yeah, but there's nothing horse ish about them, if you know what I mean.

[E]

Because he went. He's still black in the black genre. It's not the same thing, Right?

[B]

He's not like Pink.

[A]

He didn't.

[B]

He didn't do a full pivot.

[A]

Like.

[B]

Yeah, it's Just a different.

[D]

Different sound.

[A]

It's a different sound.

[F]

A different sound.

[E]

Why not drop a single to warm us up?

[B]

Cuz he knew.

[A]

He knew this conversation, this album would

[B]

have never came out of here.

[A]

All this in the talk.

[E]

Yeah, it sucks. I can't even listen. It's hard to pay attention to it, really. I don't like it. I don't.

[B]

I don't like it either.

[E]

I don't know if it's because I'm expecting a certain thing from him or what, but it's just corny. And even when y' all talking about you liking it, you're like, you're finding every little thing. Oh, I could listen to it if I was in the elevator. I think I'd like ass, bro. Sucks. That's what it is. It sucks.

[B]

I'm Ramona Good.

[F]

Have your favorite artist ever made, like, a pivot that you really rock with?

[E]

Not white.

[F]

I've been sex enough.

[A]

I mean, I had to take it back to the essence. I had to take it back to when my boy Jack was making that black crack. Hey, wait a minute now. Hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute now. Come on, Jack. You know how to make a record, man. Come on. Yeah, give us. Give us one for spring break. Whips and Chains.

[D]

Did you feel that one?

[A]

Huh?

[D]

You'd like the Whips and Chains record.

[A]

I gotta pull it up.

[E]

We don't like.

[A]

I don't know no Jackson Har Harlow song by name, except for this one.

[C]

That's a good impression.

[A]

I thought that was a Bob record. Let me see. I'm gonna pull it up on streaming because I don't know. You do know the record. Jack Harlow. If I would have known about this song, I would have boycotted.

[B]

He can't.

[A]

He can't say that. Can you say Whips and Ch.

[F]

James?

[D]

That was the controversy at the time.

[E]

Was it?

[D]

Yeah, but it was a interpolation of

[A]

something else, so this ain't popping up at all. It's a Jack record.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Is it that?

[A]

Is that the property?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know if it's called Whips and Chains.

[D]

Loving On Me or something like that.

[A]

Oh, Loving On Me. Yeah. There you go. There it is right here. Let me hear it.

[E]

What?

[A]

Jack, what happened to you?

[B]

You Something left.

[A]

No. What?

[E]

That was the be.

[A]

What? This record was crazy.

[F]

Hey, don't kill it, baby.

[A]

I'm still a baby. That's what Monica was throwing it on. Boy, Monica was serving that up on a platter. Look how the music sound when you get that.

[E]

Hey,

[A]

Nah, this is hard. I missed that, Jack.

[B]

Yeah, well, you know, the person I'm looking to emulate ain't here.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I got to go out there, try to do it on my own, and we get this.

[A]

Yeah, that's why. That's why sometimes it's best to not leave a relationship when you're ready to, because you're getting some value that you weren't accounting for. Like, if she's your muse and you're making millions off the muse, stick around a little longer than your tolerance level.

[F]

So you just cheat like everybody else, huh?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That if this is what you making when she leave.

[C]

Oh, no. Maybe you just found the hippie chick now. The incense chick.

[A]

Oh, I think she would help him more than this.

[B]

You hear this? She inspired him. And he trying to make. Yeah, I'm with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[C]

He's gonna come out in all the

[A]

all natural color, natural oil, the hairy underarm. Yeah, y' all disrespecting the hairy underarm oil.

[B]

No, we not. We not.

[A]

I think. I think they help you make heat,

[B]

but it depends on it.

[A]

Ain't worth common. You could tell he went and a girl. No, rapper, he wouldn't. A girl, nobody like.

[F]

With that said, he just.

[A]

He just overstayed his welcome Electric Circus album.

[D]

Got a little bit confused.

[F]

That was, like, the end of the relationship. He was in too deep by then.

[D]

Yeah, good point, Jack.

[A]

Good luck, Drum. You got away at the perfect time.

[D]

Today's his birthday, too.

[A]

Who, Jack?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Happy birthday, Jackie.

[E]

Happy birthday, Jackie.

[A]

Oh. Now, I kind of view things a little different about this. Like, dog, this is some real. This. This, like, Mark having allergies. This is some real simp sucker. You put out an album named Monica on your birthday. Now I got to know if you got her back. Like, now I'm invested in the story.

[D]

Might be a sequel. Monica 2.

[A]

We'll see.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see.

[A]

I don't. I won't.

[B]

I'm cool.

[A]

I won't. Let me.

[B]

Let me know when the slaps.

[A]

You come in here and tell me, oh, the sequel came out. That's. That's when I'll know.

[B]

Is it slaps on there? That's my question.

[A]

Yeah, then that would have been backwards. The slaps on part two. Anyway, what else came out? I tell you.

[F]

I tell you didn't come out.

[D]

Who's that?

[F]

Nas with a new album. Oh, yeah.

[D]

He got fake out.

[B]

He got me, too.

[F]

He got me, too. You Know I'm a huge Nas fan. I love Nas.

[E]

Nice.

[F]

And he put out on Mass Appeal. What was it called? I'm trying to remember the name of it now.

[A]

The Okie Dope.

[F]

Yes. Feature presentation. Yes. Yes. The Okie Doke.

[A]

I looked at the track list and was like, all right, I see what time it is.

[C]

Yeah, it's a repackage.

[A]

Yeah. Got your money.

[B]

Feature presentation. I was like, oh, shit. We got an all feature project. Got some Nas and Kodak.

[C]

That's what you wanted.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

I wouldn't have been at the top of my list, but.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Thought he was just gonna go out.

[C]

Love Kodak. Love Nas. Don't necessarily need to. To hear him together.

[B]

I need to hear that Nas and Young Boy give me.

[F]

Well, it ended up being nas's features from 2025. The mass appeal stuff. De la. There's also the AZ joint for the last album, and there's a. The original version of Omerta, which is. Which is dope at the end of the album. So for those of you who, you know, love Ray, but. And there's some commentary. That's the good part. Hearing Nas talk about. About how excited he was to be on a daylight track, et cetera, et cetera was cool. I could have got that on YouTube, but it was Pod.

[C]

Yeah. Pod might have been better.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Boom.

[B]

Go tell them stories right there.

[E]

Right?

[B]

Perfect.

[F]

But it was.

[A]

You breaking up weed on it. Be done. I mean, you breaking up weed on the stream. Some new school, Old school.

[E]

Nah, man.

[D]

I was trying to. I was a little bit disappointed. I was like, damn. I thought it was a new Nas project, but it wasn't, so I had to listen to other.

[A]

Other people.

[F]

What'd you listen to?

[A]

Oh, the Sadness. He just put an album out a month and a half ago.

[F]

Right. Well, that's the thing. I'm not mad at Nas and I love Nas. It's just like. It's just. I thought it was one thing, you know, I was excited. I, like, set myself up this morning, you know, Listen to. I woke up dumb early listening.

[B]

I was like, I didn't need this.

[A]

None of the people that were close to a billion dollars in hip hop was gonna take kindly to that Dr. Dre announcement. I'm surprised we didn't. I'm surprised. I'm surprised we ain't got some more coming out from these guys just repackaging everything. Right. What else came out?

[D]

We got some new yg. It's called State of Emergency. That was pretty decent.

[A]

And this is not this is not continuance of the girl taking advantage of him. Right? No, no, no. We.

[B]

That.

[A]

That one went by too fast, too. Yeah, that. That was a mess.

[C]

But anyway, 50 did put out the. The song. The soundtrack song.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

As a single.

[D]

Yeah, he just put that out like 40 minutes ago or something like that.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And I listened to New Buddy. Do you like Buddy?

[C]

I do like Buddy. I didn't know he put something out. Single or album?

[D]

It's an album. Some of the tracks are kind of old. It's like maybe six songs. But the one I really enjoyed was House Jam. Kind of has like a. Okay,

[B]

let me open that laptop while you talking. It's coming.

[A]

Let Mona tell you, traumatized by it,

[E]

that I can't even enjoy it happening to you. Like, I want to hug you, bro. Like, it's up. Welcome my.

[F]

No, you know what's funny?

[E]

I'm so traumatized.

[A]

You know what's funny? I only did it because Mona is sitting next to me. Like I on her for the Ali aim. I can't let you in. Hour one two, Buddy me out. Shout out to Buddy. I hear he's a good dude, but. Hey, buddy, you gotta pay,

[E]

bro. I'm so charged. I hear it in the street and I just. Just shut the up.

[C]

It doesn't seem to be an album.

[D]

It's.

[C]

It's just a single.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Damn, Joe.

[A]

Buddy. Buddy a. Russell. Who else you got to pay up? Alan Freed, man. Yeah. Ari. Linux. Come on. Who else got to pay? Oh, man. Yeah. What did y'. All. You want to suede his content in year 1011 just start adding up. Oh, go ahead, man.

[F]

Y' all like the new diss tracks that came out? Of course. We saw Papoose drop a diss track. We saw her maino drop a diss track too. I fucked with the Maino joint.

[B]

I like that Mayno record.

[A]

The Maino is hard.

[B]

Pap record was hard, too.

[A]

But I like, really.

[B]

I really like that Mano record.

[F]

The Maino joint was.

[C]

Pap got on him. Yeah, Mano too.

[D]

And I like.

[B]

And Mayno's trolling.

[A]

I like the.

[B]

On Instagram.

[A]

I like that first and a half of Pap shit. When it got to the end, I was like, I could do without the end of the. This may know he went off. Let me try to find it. I'll try to find it for you guys. Yeah.

[E]

Strong. And then at the end, it's like

[B]

just rap a little too much.

[E]

Same. We can rap.

[A]

Yeah. Black Bully from Bedrock. No, that's not It. That's not it. No, that's definitely not. Where the hell is the disc? Just go.

[F]

Just drag it off YouTube.

[A]

That ain't the dis. No, that is. Sorry, you guys. I went to Mayo's Instagram page.

[F]

Just go to YouTube. It's on YouTube. Easy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, Y' all do it.

[F]

I got you.

[D]

But I feel like in a post not like us world, the diss track has to be, like, really compelling in order to be effective.

[C]

Bleed like us.

[A]

There we go. Let's go. Freeze. Let's go.

[F]

Picture me being shook of a that

[E]

beat up on women and not men.

[A]

They bleed just like us.

[F]

We don't believe you.

[A]

You gonna have to prove it to me. Need more people. They bleed just like us.

[C]

Boo boo.

[A]

You just a joke.

[F]

Enough for all that trolling shit. Enough for all the gimmicks and tries be on your top again. You was just a product of lies and strong marketing. I ain't seen a in your eyes.

[A]

You a comedian. You never took a life in your

[E]

life, you was obedient. Be careful when you come at me.

[A]

You couldn't hold humble me. Why the ones you beef with end up in fair custody. Killer.

[F]

Is that your energy?

[A]

Only black men.

[F]

No, white men is your enemy.

[A]

Queens love me, Curtis. Let's rap about it.

[F]

Dick didn't freeze smack you.

[E]

You ain't do jack about it.

[A]

All that killer imagery, but you only

[F]

just rapped about it.

[A]

You a false guard shot, not you Overrated. This is your day to get deflated. Only white kids from the Birds. All right, all right.

[D]

Mayo.

[C]

Yeah, he doing.

[B]

Say, yeah, he went off.

[C]

Yeah, he's doing his thing.

[A]

He went off. I do like that joint. I do. I don't know, B. How impactful they have to be at this point.

[D]

I think, like, what Kendrick did kind of raise the bar, you know, for diss track. It's like.

[C]

See, I think they're two different. Two different categories. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, we about to jump this. Let's go.

[C]

Yo, I don't think this. That we're expecting Mayno or Pap to deliver a hit record.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Or Kendrick Lamar level lyricism. True.

[C]

I think this, especially with Pap, that's just, like, personal. Like, he's talking about his girl. All that I'm just firing on you. That.

[D]

It just seems like the expectation is higher these days, you know, like, because records come every Friday, right. And then you forget about them. But for something to stick, like, it has to be more than just being truculent on a. On wax.

[A]

No, that job is up to the artist. It's the artist's job to make the music memorable. It's always on the music. A lot of things came together with Not Like Us. Yeah, it was a hit. Yeah, it was Mustard. Yeah. It was umg, Interscope. Yeah. They was mad at Drake about this contract. A lot of. A lot of parts came together for that to go this records. I feel like everyone. The bar is different for everyone. Agree. Because the skill level is different for everyone. But when you say this record, I expect that artist's best foot forward. Yeah. And that's it. And this was. That's what it sounds like Mayo did to me. Really enjoyable track. But the problem with this AI that's out there now is I made a mistake and bumped into artificial intelligence. 50 cent disc.

[C]

It is heat.

[A]

That's the thing about boy. Let me tell you something. They lucky that 50 didn't hear this and do it for real. I'mma play it good even though it's AI and the money would be his

[B]

AI as 50 dissing buddy. Okay. I thought it was buddy.

[A]

AI. 50 got busy. I ain't he held. Damn. I ain't going to lie to you.

[F]

The most important thing in chest protect the king. That's when he tip over who going protect the queen. Even the tiny pieces hold a little bit of power. But once I get bored, your whole core get devoured. I never had respect for you cowards. It's time to go to war. First piece gone was born 2004 jackmate one of your chest plate sit back just wait there come his death date somebody do what's about me. You never would have got these views without me. I' ma snatch your pieces out the game nigga one by one since your family so close leave son by son lose your baby get your face swollen your boy rap better he sad like J. Cole but calling me a when your dad is straight toe he the reason that cold case done turn case Somebody should have told you that I don't play fit. When you cross that line little you going to stay there.

[A]

You see what I mean though? That just sound good. You see what I mean though? Like we know it's AI so we we going to dismiss this. But if this were not and it

[B]

were real, I'm surprised he ain't to going grab that and put that on his page.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Hold on, wait. Look at verse two, look at verse two.

[F]

Look whoever you sent, I'm the blueprint. I stuff your head so hard I leave a Blueprint. You know you can't beat me in the fist fight. You soft. All this I do for fun is just pissing you off. See, I done double, triple, quadruple your net worth. When it come to getting money, boy, you know I'm an expert. You just want to network. I partner with network. She chase the big fish. You better make sure the network.

[A]

That was hard. Listen, man, That's all I got for y', all, man.

[F]

I'mma let you get with these 50 cows. Somebody should have told you. Well, the real 50 didn't respond with rap, but he did go on his Instagram page respond to Pap and Mayo with more memes.

[C]

He also did use AI in his own way with the video for the Max B joint with. Which was. That was a really weird video.

[D]

Yeah, that interests me, too, because it's obviously a record going against Maino and Jim and them, but Max B commented on it with a wave emoji, which felt like an endorsement of said diss. And I know Max doesn't really want to be involved. That's what he said when he came out. Like, everything was all love.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

So Max don't know what's going on. He's scrolling through like our grandma's doing.

[B]

What happened with that. With that particular record? It was supposed to be on the. The PD7 that Max dropped back in December.

[A]

If you.

[B]

When it first came out, it was no More Tricks. And it was. It said, like, original. A remix on the original track list that was supposed to have this 50 verse, but the verse wasn't done yet, so they. When they put the project out, they took that part off. So I guess he did it. And it looked like fifth just ran and added all the AI on his own. Like, Max had no clue. They was waiting on this verse, and it now kind of drags you into this. I wouldn't have commented with the wave emojis if. If I didn't want to.

[A]

Did you know that be.

[F]

Yeah, that part.

[A]

Yeah. I knew it earlier. Just checking, but it seemed like he did. Yeah, it seemed like Ice learned him something just now.

[C]

It's okay to.

[F]

I know about that.

[A]

It existed earlier.

[F]

Got it.

[D]

I'm on death row over here.

[A]

All right, Mona.

[E]

We stupid.

[A]

Anyway, we done with music?

[C]

Yeah, I think we might be.

[D]

I think we might be. Yeah.

[F]

Or at least new music.

[C]

Another quiet. Another quiet week.

[A]

You sure? Any new music from a backpack rapper from the Bronx that we don't know about yet? You want to get anybody out there?

[B]

Anybody in Philly drop mode?

[E]

My Cousin Mookie. Chilling.

[A]

I think we're good. Akeem Ali is out. Brand new ep. I think it's five or six songs. Songs. Go check that out. Shout out to him, man.

[F]

He clipped that right there.

[E]

Either way, I take it.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

Yeah. No, go check him out. And he could rap. I was talking shit. What else? What else? What else?

[F]

Are y' all cool with Jill Scott telling everybody on her worldwide tour, which just got announced last week, no phones at any show?

[A]

Yep.

[C]

I love it.

[A]

Good luck policing that. The door.

[D]

What about Metaglasses?

[F]

They said no, too.

[A]

You won't be able to wear your Meta.

[F]

Specifically said no.

[A]

Meta or your Apple watch.

[B]

And not just they. Well, when they. When they take your devices at. They take all that.

[D]

Yeah, it's like tsa, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they put all that in a little pouch, lock it up. They got little areas if you want to go.

[A]

You never been to a show so far that's done that?

[D]

I have, like, comedy shows, but not at a concert.

[A]

Same premise, same thing.

[F]

Wow.

[C]

I love it.

[E]

I love it. Got to be somebody like jail to say some like that. For people that want to even listen,

[B]

even if you're trying to record from the meta glasses, it give you, I think, three minutes.

[E]

It's three minutes.

[D]

Yeah. That's it.

[F]

They said, you know, I know with Chappelle and them, with comedians, a lot of times the idea is you don't want people jacking your material, I'm assuming, or. Or putting your material out before it's worked and all that stuff. What Jill said is her reason, but the reason they gave was we don't. We want to preserve the. The. The experience for fans. I like that now.

[A]

I don't know. It's a kinder way to work. No, we don't want you fucking nigglets recording our show, uploading our live version to Spotify.

[C]

I think it's also just living the moment. Enjoy the show. Sitting here looking at Instagram and putting your friends and family on FaceTime to watch, like, all that or even.

[B]

I don't think the artists mean. I don't think that's the artist's concern, though. I mean, yeah, we would like for people to enjoy shows more, but if I put a lot into this show, I want people to come out. I don't want you recording the whole. Streaming the whole. So now somebody at home in their living room, like, I ain't really got to go. I could just watch it from Joe Blow's Instagram because he's going to instagram the whole.

[A]

For sure.

[C]

Knowing Jill pretty well, I think that her is living the live in the moment.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Enjoy this show.

[E]

Yeah, I thought that too. But I just in general, like, I feel like I saw Cardi show already. That's how much it's all over the timeline. I. I know the outfits, what she going pouring the water on, the. Even the speeches. She's saying the same, you know, the. I mean, it's like you saw it already. Unless you a die hard fan of that person and say it. I want to see that live. It's almost like you. Oh, all right. I was there. But I agree with you. I think just knowing Jill personally, I think she cares if you're paying attention to what she's doing.

[A]

Right.

[E]

That's the type of artist she is.

[A]

I want Cardi to have her smaller her stage and show conditioning where it needs to be by the time she gets to New York. And I want to say that at some time soon. That's coming up soon.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz I'll tell you one thing, that, that, that when she was falling out the chairs and all that. And listen. What? For real?

[E]

I just left. I left.

[A]

But it happened at a few different shows.

[E]

Like she fell more than once.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

Yeah, she fell. She fell a couple of times. And I was like, she just gonna have to get used to this stage and this breathing. But one thing for sure, that Denver weather, that Denver air up there kicked her ass.

[C]

March 25th and 26th and over here the 28th.

[A]

That Denver when, when she had to go get the air that I. I felt her. I felt her. And that has nothing to do with me being in the strip club the other night with one of her gang banging sisters.

[B]

Little pressure. Make you come in, be nice on the mic. I understand.

[A]

I bought a drink. I bought a drink.

[B]

Of course you did.

[C]

You should.

[A]

If I was free the next day, I'd have went. That little shindig she had to shout out to Cardi. I know that New York show is going to be pretty good. Yeah, for sure.

[C]

I think we should go as a family.

[D]

Joe, if you were performing, would you want people to lock their phones in?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Be there. Yeah. Turn up.

[C]

Be there.

[A]

Experience. Experience me.

[F]

Pause.

[B]

For those who have any of y' all recorded from a show?

[E]

Hell yeah.

[B]

How often you go back and look at it?

[E]

You never do. Never.

[A]

I'm only doing it to rub it in people's faces on Instagram.

[B]

You not here.

[A]

I'm here. You're not hearing Five stars. Steps live at the Drew Hill show. Yeah, that's all. That's all it is.

[F]

Yeah. And it. It takes away from the experience. I hate looking around the crowd and seeing everybody with their phone up. Everybody's recording content.

[A]

I hate recording the content while my girl is recording hers. And then seeing how mine came out versus

[D]

I just have.

[A]

You can't battle your girl with a camera.

[E]

I have.

[A]

I have her just send me whatever she did and I post that. But I do feel a little lame doing it.

[B]

I don't. Nah.

[A]

I'm like, damn. The follow both us who got more followers and me.

[B]

All right, then.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. Facts is facts.

[E]

Holding that phone, trying to record and watch, it ruins it. You can't. You looking at the phone instead of looking at them. You find yourself, like, totally not paying attention. It's stupid. It's just what we do. So it's just the first thing you do when you get there.

[A]

I'll be recording that like Michael J. Fox, boy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm the.

[A]

I be like, I ain't going to hold that. Something is wrong with my nerve. My hand. I be holding that like for fucking Abdul Rauf.

[C]

Plus, when you zoom in, it makes it even shakier.

[D]

Yeah, but I was gonna say, imagine if you go into a show, right? And like a moment happens where it's like once in a lifetime. Like it's a posse cut. They bring people out and you didn't capture that moment.

[E]

Oh, please.

[D]

Never.

[E]

It happened.

[A]

You was there, you saw.

[D]

I was there. I need to relive that moment, man.

[F]

I will get shot, though. Somebody will shoot it.

[E]

Somebody else.

[D]

I haven't been like, when Jay Z brought out Michael Jackson, right? It was a myth for a long time. We didn't believe it unless you were there.

[B]

Those of us who was there and then.

[D]

But when the footage came out, he was like, oh, someone had footage. Like, we were so happy about it.

[A]

Speak for yourself. When Jay Z brought Michael Jackson out, that made it to Forest Ave. In Jersey City. As Mike was on that stage that traveled like the sound. Speed of light, the whole hood, New York. Michael Jackson is there. Because then we started trying to plan to go bum rush summer jam, but too late. By then knew Mike was up there.

[B]

Yeah, that was one. But I'm the moments, bro. I prefer I've been present for a couple moments and I don't need to go back and watch it. I remember this shit.

[A]

Biggest moment you was present for or was most memorable to you.

[B]

The Jay Z bringing out Mike, Damn. I was there for that.

[A]

That one beat up. Was you there?

[D]

No, I wasn't there.

[A]

Mute up.

[B]

Jay and Nas at the I Declare War show. Wow, that was a big one.

[F]

I was there for that.

[B]

The Kanye, one of my favorites. I'm not gonna say maybe the biggest, but the Kanye and Swiss Beat Battle.

[A]

Oh, Summer Jam.

[B]

Summer Jam.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That was amazing. Trying to think some other ones.

[A]

No, you did it already. You was there for some cool stuff. Yeah, that is dope though, Joe.

[F]

We going have live on our live show. We going to have the cameras. We going to allow cameras, phones?

[A]

Probably not.

[E]

What live show?

[A]

Probably not.

[F]

We're doing a live show.

[E]

Are you?

[F]

Yeah. You in it too.

[D]

After April going on tour jokes.

[A]

I don't know when your contract is on. It's probably going to be a summer run.

[E]

Are y' all really doing a live show?

[A]

Yes, but we ain't. Ain't letting. We ain't telling you cuz we want to talk there. Oh, I'm joking.

[B]

Be the one to bring him out.

[A]

We.

[F]

We still working out some detail.

[A]

Mona gonna bring out the big old.

[E]

Why the is Mark talking like he

[A]

a part of the Cuz he signed till 29.

[B]

Mark is.

[A]

Mark is executive. My deal, if this happens before 2030,

[F]

Mark figure out how to work out this situation over here.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

You can't have both of them, right? You're splitting the door too much, huh?

[E]

So it's like a full tour.

[F]

We just do it. We just do one. One or two cities. We doing one or two cities. So you're in New York and LA.

[A]

New York for sure. I ain't flying you to LA, you crazy. New York and Philly and D.C. if we're lucky. Five boroughs, meet cars. Yeah. Boston, Connecticut. Quick, drivable. Drivable locations, live podcast are fun.

[E]

That's fun.

[A]

Sleep on how much it costs to pick up and take 15 people to LA and board them and feed them per diem and then. And then rely on those people to be on time. Sound check, not do no dumb shit. Rely on those people to not hit their whole LA contact list in their phone. And yeah, niggas get on the road, niggas hit that city and it's time for disappear.

[F]

I need a plus 30 is a great city for.

[B]

I need a plus 30. Let me see my list on.

[F]

Then it's that, then it's that.

[A]

Then it's dudes want to just pick up stragglers and bring them to the show like Savon. Then it's dudes like Savon. They want to bring a plus 8 of some white Denver hoes to the show.

[C]

Sorry, Savon.

[A]

And then tell everybody to keep it low. Cause my girl. Damn, nigga, it's eight white. It's eight white hoes here. And my girl ain't about to put them on me. It get tricky when it's holding down my girl. No that. I got a girl. Nope. Hell no. No, no and no. Sorry. And then we went to the after party. And then we went to the after party.

[F]

Is that why he's doing all the snitching?

[A]

Yeah. Cause he's right.

[F]

Say van, go edit all this shit out.

[B]

I have to add to you guys

[A]

profiles when I see things that stick out. So we go to the after party in Denver and the VIP is already very tiny. It's not even room for the podcast members. Like, we standing there looking tight with the tables and there's hoes out. They like looking at us, but we tight. Like, we don't look comfortable. Yeah, man. Savon went and took a walk to the back and came back holding hands with like, holding hands. It was like a line of four of the worst looking Denver hoes. And he talking about. So I'm standing at the front. He talking about Joe. Excuse me. I said excuse you for where you go? Where you going? What happened, dog? Where you headed? Did you burp? Did you burp? He brought all of them back there in that tiny little space. Now I'm sitting there like this while these hoes are drinking all the Hawaiian Punch, pineapple juice. Anything to move Clico. Anyway, shout out to Savon. And that's why we not going back back on tour.

[D]

That's a meet and greet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

All right. We just did One City, Two City, B. You down to. You down to join us.

[B]

You know, we'll talk.

[A]

Ain't that the same city? He threw up all in the hallway.

[C]

I'm not gonna. I'm.

[E]

I don't know.

[A]

There you go. Threw up all in the hallway. We all get in the turtle top that morning and these decide to not rat. Cuz me and Ian we trying. Yo, we got to pay the throw up. Like, the hotel is asking the whole tur top like, well, we don't know. That's what tour life sounds like to me. Yeah, tell them what hotel? Huh? Tell them what hotel? What hotel was it? Four Seasons. Four Seasons. Oh, man. Oh, no.

[E]

You took to the Four Seasons.

[A]

The wouldn't know Four Seasons, Mona. Because I struggled so much on tour as. As a rapper making barely making ends Meet when I was able to tour properly. I wanted people to tour properly because I know the pitfalls that come with

[E]

supposed to be the four Seasons but

[A]

the other and put them. I can't do that. I can't. Well, I back in the day.

[F]

Right.

[A]

And still got accused for the accountant. Could you believe it? These should have been in the Lanta.

[F]

Anyway.

[A]

Yeah. That's what tour life sounds like for me. I'm. I'm jaded. I'm traumatized by it. That's just what else we got. What else we got. Shout out to Jill Scott, friend of the show. Love you and good luck on the road. We absolutely love you.

[D]

I don't know if there's a better R and B album this year so far besides hers. So shout out to Jill Scott and

[C]

you'll love it a lot more when you see it live.

[F]

Yeah, that changed the whole way I thought about the album when I liked it, but now I love it.

[C]

Same same. Do you want. Do we want to do sad since we're in music?

[A]

Do I want to do what?

[C]

Do we want to do sad?

[A]

We can be sad.

[C]

We got to say rest in peace to Lord, Lord.

[A]

See my man.

[C]

That's my dog.

[A]

Lord Seer was my man. I thought it was fake when it came across the defeat Lord Seer of Stretching Barbito, but I met Cyr when he was at Sirius.

[C]

Me too.

[A]

I met Cyr when he was like Rude Jude, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All out show. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. He was just. He was just. He was just great.

[C]

Yeah. Me and Lord Zier were serious. Were drinking buddies during the Santos era.

[A]

Yeah. Santos. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

What's my man? Hip hop legend, dj, radio personality, great guy, hilarious guy, kind hearted guy.

[A]

Absolutely hilarious.

[C]

I. I don't know what else to say, man. It's huge loss, Huge loss.

[A]

Huge loss for hip hop. How old was it?

[D]

50.

[A]

50.

[C]

I think

[A]

every time there's a hip. We have a hip hop loss in this age, age range, I get a little tense. I get a little tense and start doing math.

[C]

Especially with someone that we were friends with. You know what I mean?

[A]

53. Jesus Joseph, praying for his family, for his fans, any or anybody he's ever met, his friends. He was well known and well liked and well loved in hip hop. So we lose another one. Rest in peace, Lord Seer and thank you and thank you for your contribution. Also while we on Rest in Peace is rest in peace to my man, New York legend, Ernie and Nastas. Yes, Ernie and Nastas. If you ever watch the news In New York. He was a former Fox anchor. And Channel seven and Channel nine. All of the.

[B]

Everywhere.

[A]

Yeah, all of the channels. He passed away away yesterday. He was 82 years old.

[D]

It's so crazy because randomly I was looking him up last week and he looked spry, like he looked youthful. Like he was still in it.

[A]

Even this morning, as they were showing the clips on the news of him, he looked that way in every clip. Is just extremely, extremely unfortunate and sad, man. Shout out to Ernie. And as this the OG New York og. Let me queue up some outstanding, please, please. Let me queue it up for my guys. There we go. Got it. Oh.

[D]

Feel like a cookout, man.

[A]

Cook the vibes back. Wish I was in the studio when they made this. When they. Just when the music was made.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I would be there when the bongos got laid.

[A]

Yeah. This is one of those. Not even the vocals. Even that too. Hey,

[C]

Cuz, like, the drums were cool, so I was like I or something.

[A]

Congo. Yes. Change the game.

[D]

Charlie was in his bag.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This sounds like everybody on this song and in this session, just being on one page. Here you go. All right. Where we going? What needs our attention next? What needs our attention next? Let me see here.

[F]

I know this is gonna piss you off, but what's the soulquarian's reunion?

[C]

I thought that was about the Jack Harlow album.

[A]

That's hilarious. That is absolutely hilarious. Oh, man.

[B]

No, they actually announced soulquarian's Reunion.

[F]

I didn't hear this. I'm actually shocked.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it was announced.

[F]

Who's gonna be in the crew now?

[C]

Cause a lot of them are gone, unfortunately.

[A]

We've lost d'.

[F]

Angelo. We've lost. Yeah. Rest in peace, Dilla.

[B]

I'm not sure who's gonna be in

[F]

the crew, but is it like a tour or is it like an album? Or is it like a.

[B]

No, it was announced as a. It was a project. Let me double check.

[F]

Okay. But I'm just happy if they back to business making music again. Like being intentional about making the soulquarian sound again. If Quest is involved.

[B]

Yeah, Quest was the one who announced it.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[F]

Quest is involved. If Quest is loved. And Poisoner's probably involved.

[B]

Was inspired by d' Angelos passing, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

He revealed it on his Quest Love show.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And James Bilal. The fragments that are left of the soulquarians. They spoke and they're gonna get back together.

[F]

Nah, I love it.

[D]

I don't like it.

[A]

Why?

[F]

What?

[D]

Nah. Dylan's gone. D' Angelo's gone. Like that was a moment in time. It was like lightning in a bottle. You trying to recapture that magic?

[B]

I don't think you can.

[A]

Yeah, this is like Teddy Riley doing the guy tour with two he picked up off the street.

[B]

Nah, nah, maybe, maybe not trying to recapture the moment though. It could just be again. Our man passed and we ain't all been on the same page in a while. Yo, Eric.

[D]

Still here.

[C]

Come on.

[D]

It don't feel the same.

[A]

I'm with bdot because it's not like they replacing people.

[F]

They just continue to make it. And they never broke up. It just was more like everybody was doing their own thing. You remember last year Robert Glasper and Common and Bilal did a thing quest was involved in some stuff. I mean they've been making music together. But for them to be intense crew always is.

[A]

You can catch live together at a Robert Glasper show at a Common show. Like you could see that bunch.

[B]

This just.

[D]

It's like someone announced, hey, we're gonna put out a Native Tongue album.

[F]

Like I'd be exactly.

[A]

No way. You would not be happy. No way. That's not true.

[F]

Just the I would.

[D]

Right now in the year of our Lord 2026.

[F]

This is what I'll tell you. If you have never gotten it wrong, I'm riding with you till you do.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

Even if it's different people, it doesn't

[B]

have to be different people.

[F]

That's what I'm saying. If it's the same people, just smaller, I'm with it. If Tribe makes another album. You know what I mean? Rest in peace, Fife. I'm not mad until the album ain't good.

[A]

Oh, you gotta be kidding.

[F]

I'm not betting against these people.

[A]

We not getting another Tribe album.

[F]

I get you. It was just an example.

[A]

You know why?

[F]

Because I'm not betting against geniuses until they do something.

[A]

Something wrong.

[F]

That's what I'm saying. I have no reason to believe once

[A]

all the geniuses aren't there, it should be called something else.

[B]

See, I think as long as you're not bringing in new people, you, the crew should still be allowed to move as the crew.

[D]

But that was just a moment in time. Like it was. It should have happened 20 years ago.

[A]

Unless the deceased member has a son that looks just like him. Like od.

[C]

He does have a brother. Dilla does have a brother who's also dope. That being said, said the. The Soquarians were never like a official group group. Like it was just a bunch of like minded people that happened to be working on Together and they put a name to it. Like, I'm not mad at this being the new version of that. Like, they just. It would be. It would be weird, I guess, if they made like a soulquarian album maybe. But I think them just creating some together is great.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Especially if they're. I know there's a million people there still new Dilla, random shits that are coming out to this day. I'm sure D had a lot of shit in the cut. If they're coming together to kind of finish some of this, I'm not mad at that.

[F]

I could live with that. I could live with a new Bilal album. I know Erica's already got a album coming out with our. With our brother, but like, I. If Erica did another album with the soulquarians vibe, a Mama's Gun kind of kind of vibe. I hate this so much. And I saw it open up. That was a good one.

[B]

Because I didn't know if he was about to play something. Usually. I know that was a good one.

[A]

We gotta get back into Mama's Guns.

[F]

I hate y.

[D]

But.

[A]

But if they to y' all got to you guys's point. In closing, if this were the close out at a Rouge picnic, I wouldn't be mad. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't be mad. Shout out to Questlog. Shout out to Questlove.

[F]

This is music adjacent. What you think about Ari Lennox's comments about her regrets?

[E]

Oh, God, I wish stopped being so honest. On like. No, why are you telling these people that? You know, I just stupid you talking about when her saying that she was mean to the good guy.

[F]

Yeah. I regret dating the toxic men.

[E]

Like, don't say.

[F]

And I'm happy and I now wish

[E]

I did anything left for the girls night.

[A]

Ho.

[E]

God damn. Like, some don't need to hit the neck. God damn.

[F]

We already knew.

[B]

We knew.

[A]

Oh my God.

[E]

I don't want to hear you say it like that. I just. I just. I just. It's. Everything's not for the Internet. Everything's not for interviews. Just like they about to drag the out you. When was the last time someone broke your heart?

[G]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, no. That's another funny story I saved to laugh at her. Hold up. That's not right. All right.

[G]

When I look back on all of these energies, it's a shame I gave them so much time and there were sweet energies that I didn't. And so now I see those sweet energies getting married and starting families. I'm just like, dang. That probably could have been me. If I recognize the security in those individuals at the time. And like now I'm like, yeah, I'm definitely feeling that now. I'm aware that there's something going on, there's something wrong.

[B]

What do you think it is that

[E]

attracts you to like, toxic energy?

[G]

I think they just seem really exciting at first. The chemistry is incredible. And they don't even always be fine. It's not even that. Like they're sexy or something. I mean, well, they're sexy, but they don't be the finest things I've ever seen. It's just an energy. Sometimes it's convenience. What we talk about a lot of those. The sweeter energies that I felt like weren't for me. I felt I could see myself falling asleep a little bit on the phone. So I don't know if that's like. I'm trying to figure out what that means.

[C]

Like, I feel like you should fire.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

It's the thing. What's your sign? Distinguished panel. Who wants to take the first crack at this?

[B]

This is Mona.

[C]

We don't want to speak for women.

[E]

It makes. I'm not speaking for the hoes at all, but just in general. That whole like. Like the bad guy thing, it's like, bitch, come on. And even when she says she will fall asleep on her phone and they're a little more exciting, they don't gotta be fine. I'm like, you like drug dealer dick. It was criminals. You like criminals bitch. It's like, it's always those type of bitches that end up in prison. They're co defendants because it's against the law to spend drug dealers stealing money. Like all that shit is exciting until. You know what I mean? Until it's not. And then you're at court or then you're fucking in the wheelchair. Cause you done got shot. I just think it's stupid and I think it's like kind of careless to even say it, but. I don't know.

[F]

Sometimes I appreciate it. I appreciate her honesty though.

[A]

I do too. I do too.

[E]

I don't.

[B]

And we knew this.

[A]

Yeah. You very rarely hear it from a woman her age. You rarely hear it, period. But for her to learn that lesson early, early on and be willing to share it. I commend it. I commend it. You never hear it.

[B]

She's 34.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This is around when they.

[A]

They

[B]

34. 35 to 40.

[A]

I couldn't. I couldn't disagree more.

[C]

That's when it's too late. The 35, 40.

[B]

When they realize it is.

[A]

There's a whole crew of them out there. Read between the lions, audience. There's a crew of them out there. There between the ages of 48 and 54. That. Oh, I'm looking. That's. I see you more.

[F]

I know what you're talking a bit. Eh.

[A]

Keep going.

[F]

Keep. Keep going.

[A]

Please, please. I instantly heard you. And I look to the side, I'm like, oh, I'm on the salivating. I'm on the wrong route.

[C]

He's leaving it right there, boy.

[A]

Okay, never mind.

[F]

We get it.

[A]

I'm just saying that that's the age 50, 50 and up. There's a crew of them out there where it's like, we've watched y' all for the last 30 years. So we've watched you make poor decisions. So now you're single and you're alone, and you still don't maybe speak to it. You speak to it like, oh, I'm right where I want to be. I don't hear them at 34 come to this realization and share it.

[F]

I don't. Yeah. In my 30s. Cause I was the nice guy. I did meet some women who had her kind of foresight, but it was often a little bit later. Like, the ones in the 30s would be like, I used to date this kind of guy. Now I'll date this kind of guy. Cause they're looking. Especially when they're looking to get married or if they want kids and they're tired of. They want to be off the roller coaster. But a lot of times I meet women who don't find that out in the third. The wise ones do, but others wait longer.

[B]

You know, they find it out. They don't reach that acceptance point.

[F]

Yes. And sometimes they find it out. And sometimes it's because dudes waste their time. Time, too. Sometimes it's that there's a dude that's, like, kind of toxic, but acts like he's trying to settle down and do this, that the third. He'll waste your time for 10 years. So you might be trying to do that.

[A]

Oh, yeah. That's the perfect segue to my next Ari Lennox. Stories

[D]

in the music.

[B]

The new album.

[A]

You didn't listen to Vacancy?

[D]

I ain't listen to it.

[A]

Some music guy. You are. You are. All right, here we go.

[D]

I'm about to hit someone.

[E]

Broke your heart.

[G]

Oh, my God. A few days ago. No, literally.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I would punch that.

[G]

Okay, so here's the thing about this trifle.

[A]

I love hearing these stories.

[G]

Thank you for punching him. I would Love for you to do that.

[E]

Yes.

[G]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

We love you, Ari.

[F]

Yes.

[G]

Let's punch him. We get to know each other for like, two weeks, and we were FaceTiming, talking to each other on the phone for like six hours a day. And my love language is quality quality time. I was like, falling for this guy,

[A]

or so I thought off the FaceTime.

[G]

When I pulled up to the city, he was in for work. Work for me. But I also planned on seeing him. And when I got off the plane, first of all, he started getting a little weird. Three days before I moved to the ceiling.

[E]

Lunch.

[A]

Like, about lunch. Lunch.

[F]

Damn.

[G]

When you going to book that lunch?

[A]

You know, she throwing it at him.

[G]

He just like, yeah, like, we'll have lunch if time permits. And I was like, blocked.

[A]

If time permits.

[G]

You blew it.

[C]

You might be busy.

[E]

I'm talking about.

[G]

I'm going into interview Sleepy, cuz. I'm talking to this man all night on a phone. So now I realize, okay, don't me too serious.

[F]

Lunch was a pie day.

[B]

Holy dog.

[E]

Get the on.

[A]

Two weeks, yo, I just want to

[B]

say shout out to my brother is

[F]

that's all I had to say.

[C]

Talking to the phone six hours a day.

[D]

Yeah, see, Six hours on a day.

[E]

Number not store. After two weeks, talking about he broke your heart. The are you talking about?

[A]

My thing is stop has two weeks

[E]

saying somebody broke my. My heart is crazy.

[F]

Mona. See, I know you well enough to know that despite all that, yes, you

[E]

soft inside, love a girl, all that, right. Two weeks for me to open to say my heart's broke is crazy.

[F]

She might be.

[D]

She might be dick.

[F]

She might be being a little dramatic.

[A]

Well, that's the thing. She ain't get it. It don't sound like she got that sound like my man has something lined up. He didn't know your tour hit Cincinnati on the 13th.

[B]

You got here too early, Ma.

[A]

Yeah, I got something here already.

[C]

Talking about some soup and salad.

[B]

If time permits, we might could do the lunch.

[F]

If time permits is wild.

[A]

See, now, Ice talks about this being a moment of realization and acceptance, like a moment of a big revelation. I say, when you hear them talk like this, the yo. So I was chasing the toxic men. I never paid mind to the good men and the sweet man. And I had my choice of all the men in the world. And because of how I was moving. When you hear them talk like that, I'm saying women are sleeping on male discernment. There's something that they're not saying in there, and it's important if they want to have these talks. To be honest about it.

[B]

That's a good one.

[A]

Men ain't just choosing you as easily as y' all like to make it seem. Especially the men today. These dudes that ain't drinking. And ain't these dudes just going in with a clear conscience. Like, women always try to make it sound like I dated nothing but toxic men. That's why I am where I am. News flash. Not to speak for all the toxic men. Toxic men. Boy, we are some of the sweetest men. Like, if we get to falling. I'm saying if you get to falling. Like, they talk about a toxic man, like he can't turn at sight of a good woman. And I don't think that's true.

[B]

And it's the other part they missing. They calling this toxic. He might not even be toxic.

[C]

Yeah, she talking about auras and shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A lot of times that's acceptance on their part. Yo, he was toxic. He was a manipulator. He was. You have to put these things on the person to make it look like you were good the whole time.

[C]

He wasn't gonna just throw his body on the line for at lunchtime.

[B]

You might not have just been that

[D]

mom, but she threw it away after two weeks because of lunch, though. That's kind of crazy.

[E]

No, she threw it away after two weeks because of him saying the way he said it, like, oh, if I get time, it's like.

[A]

But he said it like that for a reason. He said it like that because he wasn't trying to free himself up.

[B]

I wasn't on the.

[A]

If time permits. That's back to sleeping on male discernment. If I was on FaceTime with you every day for two weeks for six hours, there's a slight chance that I sense something.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You know how many times men say. Well, I've said. And my male friends have said, you can kind of tell when somebody is gonna be a rollercoaster ride.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

You could kind of tell. The dudes that have diplomatized before can kind of tell. Hell, if inserting penis and penetrating this one is going to hit a little different and make life hell. And if there's anybody they would say that about it might be.

[B]

Weave it to the line.

[D]

Sure.

[E]

And I think sometimes women don't realize that you attracting that because that's what you are. You know what I mean? You're attracting it. Shittiness. Cuz you're kind of shitty. And I feel like. And that's the thing about when I say like of course in the perfect world, it's like, oh, I like that she honest. But honestly, I think a drug dealer could bag her next week. That's what the she like. She just telling the truth about it. I don't think is she changed it or she recognized something.

[A]

These girls be in heat.

[E]

You are that part.

[A]

These girls be in heat, everybody. They leave out the in heat part. And I got to say this. I'm sticking up a minute. If a can he hit off two weeks of face times and he does. Don't be mad at him. Don't be mad at him. That's all it took now. I'm shutting up now.

[F]

That's a lot of hours though, dog.

[A]

If somebody can put.

[F]

If you can FaceTime if you are

[A]

willing to become one with somebody off some FaceTime for two weeks, bro.

[E]

My phone will come.

[F]

You done told me you done moved in chicks after a day.

[A]

No, no. There was a hangout. There was some type of hangout. Hangout.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Not off the FaceTime purely is all I'm saying.

[F]

Gotcha.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that too. At least.

[C]

Wine and dine me at dinner time. Get me liquored up

[E]

100 degrees. That don't even make no sense.

[A]

I'll take them to City island first or something.

[C]

Trying to beat off the. The. The Bloody Marys and mimosa vibes.

[A]

No, man.

[C]

It should be a nice time at least.

[F]

You also don't know what happened on the face times.

[C]

That's true too.

[F]

Because if you.

[A]

Yes, I do. I could tell from behind she talking. I know what happened. She was going into interviews.

[B]

Sleep open.

[A]

She was going into interviews. Tired. Still with a new album out called Vacancy.

[F]

I got an imagination.

[E]

When last time you got your heart broken? She said yesterday. Yesterday, actually. I knew this guy for two weeks. Let me tell you.

[A]

That mean homie pulled the hammer out on FaceTime. Money pulled money. I'm telling you be. Hey BD that pulled the ratchet out on FaceTime was looking like something. She was. She was ready to cancel all interviews. AR Linux ain't come up here yet. We love that album.

[E]

He just married. That's all. He got a. That's it.

[A]

Damn. That's another thing be lying about. Yeah, caring if he's married anyway. Anyway, be lying. Married men is getting off out of you. But I can't talk about it up here.

[B]

If he. If he was married and was able to go to that lunch, she wouldn't care.

[A]

Oh, that's interesting. She that under the table.

[B]

You know what I'm saying it's when it don't work out. When. When you. I'm.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm prioritizing over here instead of you now. It's a problem if I got you

[A]

like that on the FaceTime. I'm not. I'm trying to pull you in the bathroom of Chilies. I'm not even wasting time taking this to the red roof. And if the Face times is getting it done, I'mma try to. I'mma try. I'mma try to do this in the fucking bathroom of Tony Romas and get back to my girl house. My girl will never think to ask a question how fast I'm gonna get back after you.

[F]

I'm telling you, you're not allowed to go there. Some Chili's is good first date. Nah, you gotta take it somewhere better than that. After six hours of FaceTime.

[A]

No, it depends, bro.

[B]

If you open like that, you'll go anywhere.

[E]

The park.

[F]

Yes.

[E]

Let's take a walk.

[B]

Let's. Come on, let's go take this walk around a park.

[C]

Get some ice, get a slice.

[E]

You know, you getting on a rock. Damn. Again,

[A]

Such an experience.

[B]

We became one.

[A]

Yeah, that's the chick you just. And if you want to do something outside of Chili, get a little picnic. Little picnic. Make a sandwich. Go to blimpy. Go sit in the grass with a jersey. M. Let. Let the mosquitoes bite her off. Oh, man. Anyway. Shout out to Ari Lennox. Yeah.

[C]

Shout out to Ari.

[A]

Ari Lennox. Good luck. Good luck in your search for love. We rooting for you up here. Even though we making some jokes.

[C]

And her album is really good.

[F]

It's a great album.

[A]

And because your album is so good, I actually. I don't hope you find love.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I don't hope you find love. The music ain't gonna hit the same.

[F]

You don't want no Summer Walker.

[A]

If Ari Lennox is in love.

[F]

Imagine when singers get healed up here, just so you know.

[C]

Oh, that's fact.

[D]

Yeah, but if Ari. I don't know, on the Bachelorette or something like that, I think that'd be

[A]

Must See TV or Masked Singer.

[D]

One of those type joints.

[A]

Yeah. Dancing with the Stars, not Harvard.

[D]

Looking for love.

[C]

Love is Blonde.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I would. I would 100 watch Ari Lennox look for love.

[C]

That would be really entertaining.

[D]

That'd be a good show.

[A]

Damn, they want to produce it. That sound like a smash. Sound like it'll get these Patreon subs up. Also, we heard from J. Cole. J. Cole says he's going to be hitting the Interview run soon, he's going to pick a few people that are near and dear to his heart and go to their platform and allow them to speak to him and tell. And tell his story. Well, sorry. Sorry, you guys.

[F]

That one.

[A]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I put the cart before the horse on some of those reviews.

[B]

Put the Civic before the horse.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sad to announce this probably won't be one of the places that J. Cole visits, but we love him still.

[C]

You never know.

[F]

You never know. He may want to come here and confront us.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Us.

[E]

It's too many of us.

[F]

You, we squad, man. We roll together.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

No, we don't.

[E]

Somebody come up here confronting shit, they getting jumped.

[C]

We not jumping J. Cole.

[B]

We're not jumping J. Cole, dog.

[A]

J. Cole, you're more than welcome to come up here, even though you probably probably not coming up here. It's fine. I'm gonna watch you. When whoever you sit with, unless it's neon or whatever, unless it's one of them. Something I said Beat out and Elliot coming back. Oh, my bad. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. You knew this one on a doo. Don't have a heart. Come on. Come on. Jesus. Awesome. N that would be. That. That would be flawless. Shout out to Jermaine and we love you, Elliot.

[F]

Well done. Well done, sir.

[A]

Yeah, that was a good one. What else? What else, what else?

[F]

I've been watching this Booy Kodak Black.

[A]

Oh, my God. Hey. I hate Mark.

[F]

Oh, come on.

[A]

You like I hate Mark.

[F]

I only wish Ish was here because he has a different take on this. But Mona, you here so our hood correspondents can weigh in on this. So Boosie was basically talking about protective custody. And you know, when you go to prison, some people go to PC, some people go to protective custody. He was saying that Kodak did and other people weighed in on it, like Turk and others, trying to explain why. It's okay. Boosie was not happy with that either. And he even came up with a list of rappers who did not go to protective custody to show that you don't have have to. And they the ones that kept it real. And he had an issue with those who didn't.

[D]

We gotta do better as a community, as a race. We having like prison verses y' all him up.

[A]

I'm in PC. No, you're not.

[D]

I'm in gen. Like, who gives a

[E]

for a rapper to go to. To a famous rapper to go to prison and not be in PC. He has to fight to not be in PC. So that means that those people that. That. That didn't go to PC, either they weren't bigger enough or they went through all this to get out. And if you go through all this to get out because you want to look like a real. You're. You're stupid.

[F]

Just some of the people on the list Boost. Of course. Top of the list was Booy. Booy. Tory Lanez, bg, Diddy Casanova, Lil Kim C, Murder Shy. I'm gonna skip a few, Remy.

[A]

My brain cells are frying.

[F]

Beanie Seagull. I mean, I'm just saying there's a lot of people up here.

[A]

He put Bill Cosby on here too.

[B]

Mark, how about the list of rappers that don't go to prison?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You disenfranchised?

[B]

Are we talking about here?

[A]

Yeah. Throw me an air fryer for this one.

[E]

What the.

[B]

And I'm a fan of Boosie's music. This right here, bro. Come on.

[F]

So you don't lose respect. Any rappers when they go. When they go to PC?

[E]

No. They put Beanie Sickle. Me and Beanie Siggles in the feds at the same time. They put him in the hole because he was up there doing auditions like you. It causes a ruckus. You know what I mean? Everybody in here must talk to the same person. They still put him on. He was stuck there. So.

[F]

I get that. I get that. I don't have an issue with protective custody either. And some people need it. I'm not saying Kodak do. I'm just saying, like, some people actually need protective custody for fame or for safety reasons. I ain't mad at that.

[B]

Listen to this. Listen to what we argue. Well, not we, but just like, say it out loud. Hey, you went to prison. I went to prison. But you were npc. I wasn't. So I'm better than you like my nigga. We're arguing over prison.

[F]

I think the only time our message

[A]

should change, like, did y Booy put a.

[B]

A long tweet out? And I'm not gonna hold you. I was almost done with him. I'm gonna keep it real. These kid. I'm gonna read some of this, cuz it's really long.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

No, you don't even gotta find. You ain't got to find.

[D]

But give me the chair, Joe.

[A]

Yeah. Word.

[B]

These kids who are brought up just like us in the streets are hypnotized by our music. Yes, most do end up in prison where they're living through our words to be solid, loyal, and to never check PC. Like even that. You're admitting that, right?

[F]

This sound like it's going somewhere good.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

It's saying, yo, we're leading y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

Like, you're following our words. And yeah, y' all end up in prison. You're acknowledging somebody's gonna be.

[F]

So I'm saying I. I thought, no,

[B]

it doesn't make a turn you.

[E]

I'm surprised you say you done with

[B]

him because I said almost.

[E]

I love boos.

[B]

I love his music too much.

[E]

Like, years ago, he came out and talked about how you. He got his teenage son some so he can make sure he's not a homosexual. It's like he said worst.

[F]

That's when I was done with him.

[A]

He.

[E]

You know what I mean? I've been really like, basically done with him since that kind of stuff. Or just. I remember when Nas X, like, first came out and he just was all ass like. He was just like, bro, what's up? You know what I mean? And just the tootie. I'mma make sure too to get some. Yeah, like that shit is like, bro, come on. Like, it's. All of that nonsense is an old school school of thought. We know now as black people what that did to a lot of young black boys is so many black men and artists coming out being honest at their first sexual situations were molestations. And Terence Howard just went viral for saying how much sex he had at 9.

[A]

4.

[F]

Terence Howard is 4.

[B]

Excuse me?

[A]

4.

[B]

Like 1, 2, 3, 4.

[A]

4 years old. Started at 4 years old. He said he's been saying a lot of.

[E]

Listen, Terence does say a lot of crazy, but I don't think the lying. I really. I don't. It don't feel about none of it. I think that he say, what about none of it? I'm. I'm not gonna say about. Yeah, I don't know when I hear him talk, how fast he talks. I remember even with the story with Diddy, the crazy ass story he had about. Yeah, I believe him. I don't know. I don't believe him. I didn't hear him say 4. I don't know how I missed that. But I know a lot of my male friends tell me about sexual experience that are rape and molestation. Whether they know it or not.

[B]

They don't even know it at the time.

[E]

And I enjoy the fact that they famous people are doing D Ray. I was so mad when D Ray did it years ago, whoever he was with Vlad and Vlad laughed at him. It just. It pissed me off. Because it's like, we need that in our community because that shit is sick. You know what I mean?

[F]

So that's why I want to send. I want. I want to send a better message to the community, and we have to be able to do that. So when these conversations happen, I always. I mean, I appreciate Turk for jumping in to even say, like, you know, like. Like you said, they're famous. There's a legitimate reason to be there. But I think we have to take an even bigger step.

[A]

No. Yeah.

[F]

And say it's not just that famous

[A]

multi millionaires granted the opportunity of a lifetime. Why do we want to be in jail? Exactly. I know that some of you dudes think that y' all having, like, a tough guy conversation, which excludes me, but you sound like volunteer slaves. You sound like volunteers here. Slaves that someone somewhere is depending on. They're depending on that turn belt with y' all on it. So y' all are too powerful. You're worth too much, and too many kids are listening to you for you to sound this stupid. And if you thought this was stupid, Rollo takes it a step further to say that he rather die than be in PC.

[E]

Oh, God.

[C]

Goodness.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And Booy just. Just. Just dodge jail time. Just jail. So it's like sometimes we just be talking. They ain't been to jail. 10, 15. This just did. Almost did three. Five years. Three to five.

[B]

Like, literally, he thought he was going up. Like, he thought.

[A]

Yeah, well, two weeks ago. And again, I'm not tough enough to ever give my opinion on this stuff. Two weeks ago, it was a rap. I don't remember going around doing the I got more bodies than any other rapper challenge.

[E]

Okay, I ain't see that.

[A]

And then one rapper responded, and he was right. The rapper that responded, well, nevermind.

[D]

Biggie was right, man. Dumb rappers need teaching. Arguing about what facility you were in and what kind of status you had. Come on, let's knock it off.

[B]

My main problem with. Cause I'm gonna address what you said. Cause yes, he did say some wild shit before, and I kind of put that. Cause there's a lot. I know a lot of older people that just have that train of thought where. Where it's like, you're not going to change them. This is how they've been. Especially down from where he from. I'm not going to say I don't agree with him, but I also understand that there are people with that train of thought. This here, that statement that I read, like I said, it kept going. He's Acknowledging that I know that I led y' all to this. That's different. I know I'm a problem. I know. Know my music. Y' all live. Y' all swear by my music. Y' all follow my music. Y' all were raised off my music, and y' all end up in jail. Y' all not supposed to check PC. That's what he's saying in his. In the statement. That's a little different to me because now I'm already acknowledging that what I'm saying and what I've been doing is a problem before. Well, with the other stuff, it's like, it's. It's a level of conditioning you might not even understand. You. A lot of people aren't progressive enough

[E]

to, like, he don't know.

[B]

He don't know that. Yo, you. You shouldn't be trying to get your son some pussy.

[A]

That's why he's been on my list. He's on the list with Blueface and Chrisean and a bunch of people that I just know never to listen to their words. Like, not music.

[B]

I know what you.

[A]

Their words. Like, boosie been on that list. Like, why are we fucking sitting here

[B]

shouting, God damn, bro. That one was crazy.

[F]

I just saw that. I guess it's a resurface clip. A baby talking to the prisoners when they're like. He's like, I'm gonna help y' all what y' all need.

[B]

He was like, I can help y' all out with whatever y' all need. They said, we need some books.

[F]

He said, you think a read a book going to help you get out of here? That's what he said. That's what he said. And I'm just like.

[B]

That should caused a war on the time.

[E]

What did he think they were going to ask for? Knives? Shanks. You need shanks in here.

[F]

Money or job or. Or opportunity to get out.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't care if Drake and Future are friends. I know that's a hot topic going around.

[C]

It is hot topic.

[A]

I don't care. I don't know who started Ebro, Charlemagne. I don't know. Academics said it's false. I don't give a. I don't care.

[F]

There's no. There's no single coming because I heard they're gonna be able to track together on Iceman.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

Don't care.

[C]

They make slaps together. I'd like to hear

[A]

if they make a slap.

[B]

No, I care about the slap. I'm saying is, I don't care of knowing. Hey, they're friends or they're not friends or they're work. Give me the album.

[A]

If they on there, we'll know.

[B]

Know it and now I'mma know. And if he's not, bet it's not going to change whether I'm going to listen to the album or not. I just want the album at this point. I don't need all this. Yo, it's. It's coming. He's working on this. He's doing that. I don't care when he's ready to drop the album, that's when I want to see some Drake news.

[D]

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

[A]

I agree with you. And. And with each passing month, I think he going to continue to stall. I don't think that coming no time soon. I agree. I don't think he's ready for old leaks.

[B]

I. I thought. I thought. Now I'm on the other side of that. I don't think that is coming into the.

[A]

Maybe you got to update his cold. This. That's my question for y'. All. And then I'm off of this.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Does Cole get a shot or two or three or four or five from Ice on Iceman?

[F]

I don't think so.

[A]

No. I don't think so. Okay.

[D]

I don't think Light skin on light skin. Beef. I don't think that's gonna happen.

[A]

Feels like deja vu from when I was asking y' all about a Drake and Kendra beef and y' all told me there was no way in the world. And then we had to wait a few years. Those clips are still out there.

[B]

I know you was. Really? Listen when you write you right.

[A]

So you do not think. What? All right. You don't think it'll happen. What's the likelihood?

[D]

10% sounds like a prize.

[A]

10% from Mark.

[C]

Oh, I'd give it 30, but 30 from Park.

[B]

I was in that 20, 25 range. No, I don't think it's very likely, though.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I got him at 80%. 80%?

[B]

Damn near sure. Then.

[A]

Wow. I got been 80% for sure. Cole's getting sorry. I don't make the rules and I ain't spoken none of them.

[E]

The question is, is he going, like, diss him?

[A]

I'm not sure he'll say his name,

[E]

but just throw some. For sure.

[A]

You will hear a jab stern, pow, pow.

[F]

That'll be unmistakable.

[A]

Leaving me out here in the rain and you're gonna hear about me.

[E]

I'm telling you. Yeah, for sure.

[A]

We ain't heard the last time after that.

[E]

Why not?

[A]

The Little League came out now with some old school. So I'm not bringing it up, but yeah. Sorry, buddy. You and that civic shout out to

[B]

civic causing problems out here.

[A]

Hey, look at my baby. Hey, baby. Out of here. I need more enthusiasm when I'm saying that. What else, what else, what else? What else? What else, what else, what else? Let's see, let's see. Let's get.

[B]

The Oscars is this weekend.

[A]

The Oscars is Sunday. And we have to care, even though we have to care because we want sinners and Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lynn. Delroy Lindo.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Why am I his name up? Delroy Lindo and the costume designer. And we want all Things Centers to win. And we have to watch because this little Marty supreme is nominated, too. And black people will have fit if that little Marty supreme guy wins this over Michael B. Jordan. Now, what I will say said I followed a few white people on Instagram, so my algorithm, they on Timothy Ch's ass right now. Yes.

[B]

That's what I learned.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

That's what I learned from the white.

[C]

Something about the ballet and opera or something like that. And they don't like that.

[A]

He Absolutely. On the arts. Oh, he. On Broadway, ballet, all that he did. You're gonna look for the clip?

[C]

Yeah, we'll look for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So it's not out of. So he was doing an interview. Was it like in a.

[A]

He was doing an interview, but the question didn't call for that. I'll wait till Parks finds the clip. But apparently he's been on a string of these type of. This behavior that would have people turn their nose up at him or just be turned off or put off from some of his thoughts.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

I didn't know about this.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I think I got the clip. I think I got the clip.

[A]

And I don't want to be working in ballet or opera or, you know, things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive. Even though no one cares about this anymore. All respect to the ballet and opera. I wish you found the question. I just lost 14 cents in viewership. Oh, damn. Damn. Shots for no reason.

[F]

That's not a shot.

[A]

I hear what you're saying.

[F]

Yeah. So.

[A]

And set him up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right into it, too. And then doubled back.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

That's not the way to campaign.

[C]

No, no. These are the people voting on this.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You should win first, then on the ballet.

[A]

Right. 14. 14. That's crazy.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Crazy.

[B]

That's a Big.

[A]

You. I.

[D]

Room for everybody. Black.

[B]

I saw. I saw a young lady had put a. Like she. She wrote a little article about why Ryan Coogler damn near has to win best director. And I didn't know this, but Sinners is nominated in every major category except for female. Female actress.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And it was like for the director to get everybody. Not every major award, every major nomination nation. The. The rollout of the movie, marketing of the movie, which directors usually don't give a fuck about. But in this case, everything tied all together. It was like she made a great case where it's like this all falls on the director. If everyone in the movie. You were in the movie. Supporting actor, you got a nod. Cinematography. Every category that we could apply for. Yeah, we got a nomination.

[C]

That's valid. I think that a lot of.

[B]

I didn't even look at it that way.

[C]

Paul Thomas Anderson might have some of the same arguments for his film. For One battle after another. A lot of those people are nominated as well.

[A]

Got it. Oh yeah.

[B]

I thought I was like holy Sinners

[A]

should win even just because of that. Right. Like, you just reminded me how all the articles came out. Trying to. On the fact that Centers got people out of their homes and into the seats. Yes. Like that's important. I know you kids out there never went to the store to buy an album, but getting somebody getting butts in the seats at movie theaters is important for sure. Then y' all tried to whitewash it three weeks later with white Centers, which was weapons talked about that. Y' all tried it. Then y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

That didn't work. Then y' all doubled back with one battle after another. That one was gonna stick. Leo, they wouldn't got. They wouldn't got white that Thanos. They went and got Leo and then we had to battle Marty supreme with this young little here.

[C]

So see, I'm not mad at one battle after another getting there. And I like Marty supreme, but that should not be in the same conversation.

[A]

I didn't see it.

[C]

I like the movie.

[A]

It was good.

[C]

But it wasn't like some groundbreaking on a way too level.

[A]

It wasn't a Sinners I'm gonna see in a couple years. The white ping pong master is not rushing me away from dateline.

[D]

You could definitely watch it on a Delta flight.

[A]

Listen. Yeah, it took me. Took me five years to see what Brad Pitt did in F1.

[C]

I still ain't watch that yet.

[A]

Not a bad movie.

[C]

Good.

[A]

Yeah. Not a bad movie actually.

[B]

I know to try to get. And this was way after it was already in theaters when we tried, when we were up here talking, I said, all right, fine. I'll buy tickets to go see Centers. Yeah, dog. I had to catch like a super early showing at a theater I wouldn't even normally go to because that was sold out.

[A]

I thought you normally do that.

[B]

I don't do that.

[A]

You normally go in the daytime at a different theater than the homies, right?

[B]

I go up the street, bro.

[A]

Than the set.

[B]

I go up the street.

[A]

All right, all right, my bad. Go the movies up and I had you up there. You did.

[E]

You had to sit in the front row. That's what you're saying.

[A]

That's what. Yeah. Of what movie percentage? I think.

[C]

I think that was one. I had to sit up in some stupid. I love the movie, though.

[E]

The movie is great.

[A]

And I'm not even feel like that's something that's on the list. List of things that we. We should never do. Front row. The very front row.

[C]

I think that was the movie that I had to. I had bought. They had a handicap seat and you could buy it, but it wasn't really a seat there. Yeah, I think it was.

[A]

You stole a seat from a handicap, dude.

[C]

Not at all. Not at all.

[A]

Jesus.

[C]

That's not really a seat.

[E]

I regret not seeing that in theaters. Like I saw it at home for the first time. I regret it.

[A]

It's better on a bigger screen for sure.

[D]

Especially that scene when that battle me for sure.

[F]

You said you saw it on the iPad. You like.

[A]

That's why I love Mona.

[B]

IPad ain't 4k either with that.

[A]

While we're. While we're on a list of things that men shouldn't do, I'm going to bring you into your love as a man, man.

[E]

I don't want to hear you say nothing about discounts. Cheaper. Even if you do like, don't. I don't mind you getting a discount.

[B]

I don't mind you preferring cheaper and

[E]

things of that sort. I don't want to hear it as the lady. Like, I don't want to hear you got a problem with no prices and nothing. If I don't live my life that way, I don't want my man to express himself that way.

[F]

You can feel that way.

[E]

You could organize it aside from me somewhere else. But as soon as I hear somebody say that's too much. How much is it? Oh, that pisses me off.

[D]

She don't want to date my middle class ass.

[A]

Lady and gentlemen.

[E]

Nah, leave me out.

[B]

Nah, I want you to. I was Waiting for you. Please, Mona.

[E]

Like, you know, I feel like, you know, she a bad bitch. So it's like the way she could pop it like. Like that. But see you saying that and you know, you got the Brendas and the

[B]

Shaquitas, they going to take to it.

[E]

Nah, you. You know what I mean, You. You kind of got to look like that to carry it like that. You know what I mean? And she make a lot of money herself, so it's like. And that's the thing, too, to be for real. For real. She make paper. So it's like, yeah. She could say, hey, I don't want to be around no discount ass. I don't want a. To ever, ever, ever get a discount. Give a. If we bleed all this money, I don't gotta live in a ship shelter.

[B]

Is that a bucket? Is that a new money mindset?

[D]

It has to be.

[C]

Wait, hold up. I do think there is a world in which she could say something that makes sense here. And that's if you went out and, like, bought your girl a gift or something like that. Y' all got a real good deal on this.

[A]

Like, that's true.

[F]

I wouldn't say that.

[B]

That ain't what she's saying.

[C]

There's times.

[E]

That's not what she's saying, though. Parts.

[C]

There's times. Times where you could sound crazy telling your girl about some discounts.

[A]

I don't.

[F]

So it's true.

[D]

I got this off the street.

[A]

Would you say be that.

[D]

I'm saying, like, if you get your girl. Chanel bag, like, I got it got us for a good price.

[F]

Babe got it from Canal Street.

[E]

The only way you say it is if you know she don't like spending too much money, then you say it.

[F]

Because now that's how my wife. My wife gets excited. If I tell her, like, I save money on something.

[A]

I know we focused on the messenger and not the message. Why 1, 2. Fair. I'd like you married people to not think about your married situations. Like, think about the guy and the gal that's in courtship.

[C]

Oh, I think I was. I was beaving it as a married person. I wouldn't be rushing my girl to tell her about the dis.

[A]

I know they're going to kill me for this. I agree with her.

[F]

I don't think she's all the way.

[A]

I agree with her from my own experience. I've been there before. I'm saying there is no cool way to do it. There is no cool because she didn't say, don't do it. Or I'm ashamed. You if you do it. All she said was, don't tell me about that shit. She shouldn't hear it. And I agree, I agree with that.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

If a dude, if the check comes at the. At the dinner or we at one of these fucking luxury stores, and I'm about to ask that, I'm pulling the person to the side side, and I'm having that conversation. There is no way to do it in front of her. And it look cool because now you in the hands of whoever is. And they could say, no out of here. No, that's it. And now you sitting there, you got to swipe this. You decline, you got to give them another car. There's no way for this. Your girl shouldn't see none of that. Or the person that you like. I don't think.

[C]

I don't even like if I'm leaving a dinner with my wife or something like that. And I paid the check obviously, to be like, man, that place was really expensive.

[A]

Like, yeah, I'm sorry.

[F]

Sorry. In a relationship, you're right, it's different. Because the kind of shit that I brag about a discount for, for my lady is like, oh, you pay too much for the tv. Oh, well, it was such and such a week. I got a half price. We good. Like, that's different. If I buy her a birthday gift, I'm like, yo, this watch, you can't do that. You know, I got it for the freeski. You know what I mean? It was a hookup from the. I'm not doing that. I'm with you. But there gotta be limits. For example, let's say y' all are out.

[E]

Out.

[F]

Let's see. Let's say you. Nah. Yeah, no, that would look bad too. I was about to say.

[A]

That's what I'm asking. Give me the cool way that it. It could be done. I don't. I'm open minded. I just can't think of it myself.

[C]

I don't even like when. Like this last month, my continent bill was out. Rages. I don't tell my wife that. She wants to put it on 85 degrees in the house. She's gonna put it on 80 degrees and I'll pay the tab.

[F]

It is what it is. I'm with you.

[A]

She ain't got to know.

[F]

I'll give you a perfect example. I give a perfect example. I'll give you a perfect example. This restaurant was closing in Philly, okay. They asked us to like, donate money to help them reopen. Those are my favorite Restaurants. So I, I donated a bunch of money and. What? One of the things they did was give us like $1,000 in gift certificates.

[E]

Like credit card.

[F]

Yeah, like it was like a hundred. I mean ten hundred dollar certificates for the restaurant.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

I've already paid for it. If I'm out to dinner, does that mean if. If I'm on a date?

[E]

No, I can't.

[F]

I. I can't break them things out.

[E]

That's not.

[C]

You could, you could a coupon.

[E]

That's not the same.

[A]

No, no, no.

[F]

I said if I'm on a date.

[A]

Not my wife.

[F]

Cuz my wife I'm damn sure get bringing things.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[F]

But if you want a date. Cuz I. I had them things so

[A]

I can have cu.

[F]

But I'm just saying pay for the,

[B]

with the, with the thing.

[C]

Put it underneath the table though.

[A]

And that's. And that's what lets you know is something you shouldn't do.

[F]

Cuz I agree.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Is telling you that you should do that.

[F]

Would you be insult. Would you feel weird?

[A]

Oh my. My baby.

[B]

Listen.

[E]

He doesn't even like when I put my number in at the stores. Like oh do.

[A]

Honestly.

[B]

Oh no, I don't play that.

[A]

I don't. I think, I think it's.

[B]

Tell you what I'm spending.

[A]

I think it's. I think it's ghetto to put your

[E]

phone number in game points.

[B]

If I'm paying for it. Don't put your number in.

[A]

It's super ghetto. Every store we go to, she has 900. She got an account at Sonoko, she got an account at Target. She got an account at Starbucks. She got an account at Victoria Secret. She got an account at Alo. What's the other. Where we get all the lotion. Ulta. She got the Ulta account everywhere.

[C]

Nothing from Ulta. Cuz she'll be like no, I want to put it on my. For the point look.

[A]

Yeah, like I can see you not

[E]

wanting her to do it, but to say ghetto is crazy. It's not ghetto. It's nothing ghetto about that.

[A]

It's kind of ghetto.

[E]

How. How's that ghetto?

[A]

Well, multiple, multiple ways. One way. One. One way is she take all them reward points and she save her money. The same rules don't apply when it's my money. So I'm not seeing a benefit in this. So as the that's paying and is willing to pay. Hey, I'm just standing here looking stupid. As she. Oh yeah. We can't get these points and reward. Yo dog, I have 59.99 for this little target candle. Like we look thirsty doing this. But she likes that. Yes.

[B]

I gotta get rich.

[A]

I gotta get rich.

[C]

We're talking about just like data confidentiality.

[A]

Well and that. Yeah, I was getting to that. Later, later. But yeah, I kind of am. I'm familiar with the scam.

[B]

I'll be at Target. Yo, you got $40 in points. Would you like to use them?

[A]

You got that?

[C]

I'll do that too.

[A]

I just want to tell y' all that y' all still have yet to show me the cool way that the courtship guy asked for a discount. Like not the non embarrassing way.

[F]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It ain't cool. Wait, hey, I got this coupon.

[A]

What's the non embarrassing way?

[E]

Embarrassment for a man. No, it's not.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[F]

Yeah, you might be right. I'm thinking.

[B]

I can't think of one.

[E]

I don't know. I don't like cheap people in general. So it's like man or woman. It's like all that complaining when people when go out to eat and then everybody mathematicians and I will never ever

[C]

go out with you again.

[E]

Often people do that and I pay for everybody. Cuz to me that's embarrassing. That is good like that make my skin crawl.

[F]

I don't.

[E]

I don't like cheap or men. But saving a buck. What I tell a quick such and such selling snail bags for the half ski. Go get me two instead of one.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[F]

See, that ain't a date situation. What if you at dinner he got a 50% off coupon.

[A]

Mark, enough of these coupons.

[E]

If I'm on a date with a man, honestly, and he has a 50% coupon, he pulls it out. It is going to lock in my head that he cheap. It's weird, Mark.

[A]

I mean not Mark. Mona.

[E]

Cheap on a date. On a date is weird. Ice, come on. If you go on my nigga won. But no.

[D]

How much is the bill exactly?

[F]

Mona be a lot for me to pull out the hat.

[E]

Is that a paper coupon?

[A]

I'll be right there.

[F]

I cut that.

[A]

I want scan this apple.

[B]

Scan this barcode.

[C]

Last night I went to dinner at a local spa. We know the guy that runs it. He gave us a bunch of free. I came home and told my wife he gave us a bunch of free. That's one minor cool way that you could say I got that.

[A]

That also is not applicable to what we're talking about. You didn't Ask for anything.

[F]

You didn't ask for it.

[A]

True.

[F]

You didn't ask. Hey, give me the potato skins lying around.

[A]

Yeah, when me and her go to Lebes and Tony go. He just send the whole menu to the. That's. That's fly. I'm not turning that down. It's also not me begging for a discount. Mona, if you go. If you go, shout out to Tony, too. I'll be there soon. I'm coming too, Tony. I told you that.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Mona, if you. You go on a double date, you and your man in this scenario, you got a man.

[C]

A double date's even nastier.

[A]

If you go on a double date, you and your home girl and both of y' all dudes, and the check comes. Is it cool if both of the dudes put their card in?

[C]

That I think makes sense.

[A]

No, I got it.

[B]

One of those kind of battles.

[A]

Like, they both do the thing.

[E]

I got it. I got it.

[A]

Like, no, no, I'm talking about both of them put their card. They'll split it on these two.

[D]

Oh, split.

[C]

I'm not mad at that.

[F]

Sometimes I think if it's two couples splitting, it's fine. I'm not splitting. I generally just. I just generally pay the b. Pay the bill.

[B]

I'm saying in a double. That's what you're saying, right? Like, they both put the card in.

[E]

I would prefer for my guy to offer to pay for everything. That's what I.

[F]

But you don't care if he don't fight it?

[E]

I mean, if he don't fight it. No, it's cool. If he don't fight, cool. But I want him to at least act like, you know, I mean, I got it. Bro was cool, right? I ain't going to switch your arm. You know what I mean? We ain't going to argue about it.

[A]

One more question.

[F]

What if. Just asking. If you want to date and something on the bill that you didn't actually order, do you look. Do you look up to contest it?

[E]

Like, nobody.

[B]

Nobody ordered it.

[F]

Yeah, like you on your first date.

[A]

No.

[F]

And there's this extra. I don't mean like oat fried, but, like, there's like a steak on there. Yeah, that nobody order. You and your girl one over.

[B]

Okay, so neither one of us ordered this thing.

[F]

Neither order. One of us ordered it.

[B]

Oh, hell no.

[E]

From a rich person in here.

[A]

A lot of rich people in here.

[C]

I'm going to the bathroom and talking to the person over there. I'm not doing it at the table.

[F]

You're not doing it for her.

[E]

Yeah, Park's a real.

[F]

I didn't order an extra salad.

[A]

Like I didn't order that cosmo. Well, that wouldn't be me cuz I wouldn't notice it. I done paid and was on some ball and. But my girl will look at it and be like, we didn't order this.

[C]

I do the same though.

[F]

My wife be like, no, look, I

[C]

don't look at the thing.

[F]

Usually my wife will. But I guess if she looks at it, then it's okay for me to fight it. Cuz she the one noticing it.

[A]

She'll send.

[B]

She gonna be the one to fight it.

[A]

She'll send food back on some guy hate.

[F]

Oh, no.

[B]

They do that.

[E]

No, no. At restaurants. That is our duty to know that. You ask for lamb chops and this is chicken. And you really don't want no chicken cuz you ask lamb chops. That's our dog duty as the woman to say, excuse me, he asked the chicken.

[F]

That is our jobs because we don't do it.

[E]

A lot of y' all are so happy when you get them lamb chops that you really want.

[F]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[E]

But you with a gangster like myself.

[B]

Oh, trust me, they fixed it.

[A]

Yeah, but now I'm ready to go when the lamb chops. I'm not ready to sit here.

[E]

About it and listen, I'm not. I'm never. I worked in the service industry before, you know, for two weeks. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna be a about it or fight about it. I know how hard it is to be a server and a cook and stuff like that. I'm not gonna like really fight about it. But I am gonna say, oh, as a cook. Oh, I'm sorry. I had a job as a cook and I was.

[A]

I was sitting here guessing, guessing away. I was like.

[E]

I was a cooking for.

[A]

I thought, oh, she up here being honest.

[E]

I was a cooking po for like a month.

[A]

Okay, that was close. This man, service industry. I wasn't quite. I wasn't sure. I wasn't quite. I just wasn't sure.

[C]

Which cook were you on the fryers or on the grill?

[E]

I was actually cook cook. And it's crazy. I didn't know what I was doing. And we breakfast and somebody ordered a poached egg and they sent it back three times before I just admitted I didn't know what a poach.

[C]

Couldn't Google it.

[B]

What you mean?

[A]

This is home.

[E]

The out of here. Who eats poach eggs in prison?

[A]

Shut up.

[F]

Shut the up.

[E]

They so corny corny. Like, come on now. Everybody knowing jail eggs come out of parking.

[A]

Well, everybody don't know that. You jail birds that keep assuming all of us know. We don't know. Hey, my first night I spent the night in jail. I was shocked as when the breakfast

[B]

game,

[A]

I looked at my bucket. He said, right, this is what it is. This is what you get that first night.

[E]

They be scarfing that down. So disgusting to you.

[A]

Oh my. They going to tell me about the budget cut bags. We used to get mayonnaise and mustard. Now it's just one little mustard packet, cuz. The budget cup. Yeah. You think I'm in jail and want to hear about the budget?

[B]

Yeah, we used to get.

[A]

We used to get three pieces of baloney. But now you know what I learn? I'm getting a bail. I'm getting a bail and then I'm going get. And when I make it out of here, y' all will never see me again. Nope.

[B]

No, no jail out of here.

[D]

What I'm talk to India Love, man. She don't want to hear it.

[A]

God bless India Love look good enough for y' all to not ask for a discount in front of her. She's a she do. She do. Sorry. I know y' all want to hate her. Yeah, I know y' all want to hate her. But I, I agree with the lady.

[F]

It made a lot more sense when he talked it through.

[A]

Jamal Bryant. Oh, black women are on your ass. Jamal Bryant. And this is the topic I'm handing right to Mark. You in trouble now. You in trouble now. Jamal Bryant. What happened, Mark? Wait, do you know him?

[F]

Of course.

[A]

That's your man.

[F]

I know Jamal.

[E]

Let me do it.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Out of here, Mark.

[E]

First of all, black Bryant, black ass had the nerve to act like he is. He is the deciding factor whether go back to Target or not. And he made an announcement and said it was over with because Target way invested some money or gave up some money.

[A]

That's what he said.

[F]

That's what he said.

[E]

That's what he claimed.

[F]

So over. It's been over what, year, year and a half now that the Target. That the Target boycott has happened. He wasn't the first person to announce the boycott. He wasn't the first. He wasn't the person who organized the boycott. That's the important thing.

[A]

Let me know if you want me to play him at any point.

[F]

Actually play his audio first, then I'll get the context.

[A]

I got it right here. And it's nasty because he in front of Target doing it.

[B]

It's been a year and I'm grateful. They didn't think we could do it, but we did. History has just been made.

[C]

Oh, he did a lot.

[B]

Effective and powerful boy.

[D]

Black people.

[B]

70 years ago we asked for four things and I'm grateful to God if we've got three of them. They have invested $2 billion back into the black community as they play it after the death of George Floyd. On top of the 2 billion, an additional $100 million to immediate organizations that are meeting the needs within our community. Number two, we asked them to partner with HBCUs they have found and we have found collectively one that will do our pilot program with 12 other HBCUs to follow. Number three, a re imagining of DEI has been a rough year for our community. 300,000 black women have lost their jobs and this is the highest unemployment for our people in years. The only thing that we didn't get accomplished but we're still working towards is an investment in the black banks. And I'm believing by grace it's going to get done. This new CEO has come handling business.

[F]

Oh shit.

[B]

I'm glad to walk with him. What the media Target fast has come to an end. We claim victory.

[A]

We're grateful.

[B]

Go in or stay out. But I'm grateful unto God. It's over.

[A]

Shut your ass up.

[E]

Get the fuck on.

[F]

There is a challenge to and I know and love Jamal a great deal.

[A]

Cool.

[F]

But you can't, but you can't end a boycott that you didn't start.

[E]

Yeah, black women started that goddamn boycott.

[F]

And in fact, thank you for that. Nakima Levy Armstrong, Jelani Hussein and Monique Cullors. Dottie were the local activists who started this and they did not call for. And what she said was Jelani said, don't be fooled. The target boycott continues. It continues because the demand has yet to be met. At the end of January 2025, we called for a nationwide boycott of 20 Target. Jamal Bryant's 40 Day Fast began in March and it was limited to 40 days. So how did 40 days turn into him being seen as the leader of the nationwide target boycott? And so that's the important thing. And remember this is found. This is a Minnesota based thing. The national campaign started February 1st and because Minnesota was ground zero and this all started around the George Floyd stuff or at least the after aftermath of the George Floyd stuff. It was an important movement, an important political strategy. A lot of people feel and you see him getting dragged on the Internet good that this was him co opting the movement taking over Something that he didn't start.

[B]

That's what it sound like.

[F]

And if you believe that, then it's also easy to believe that Target incentivized him to do that. How much does he mean?

[E]

Of course, that's the only question I had. When he lists all the numbers. We got 2 billion. And I resent the fact that you keep putting God in the end of your sentences. By the grace of God and with God's help. It's like, don't do that. This is some simple. This is some. That doesn't have anything to do with religion and us sticking together is important. If. If women for so forever. It's always some where black women champion something. Black women get it done. There's some man try to come on and act like, no, we're not doing that. That's corny. Don't nobody give a about that little video you made in front of Target. We not on that. Going to Target or we gonna sneak and go to Target and not put it on our Instagrams.

[D]

Was he part of the initial?

[E]

No.

[A]

No.

[F]

So that's the thing.

[A]

He.

[F]

He started a like a 40. What do you call a 40 day fast from target.

[A]

Okay. And we're past taking a knee.

[F]

And it just kept. They gonna get your ass. You gonna get the call.

[A]

He gonna get the call.

[F]

I'm sorry. All right, guys.

[A]

Especially not before I ask for these tickets. I'm. I'm going, hey, whatever is happening in April, June, June. I don't know when it is June, but I'm begging. And not in front of my girl either.

[C]

Get enough.

[D]

I think that's what. It's okay, Jamal.

[E]

Burn. Got a lot of nerves. That's your friend X. Ask him how much money he made.

[F]

I will. I played. I'm trying to actually get him on the phone now.

[A]

You think he took a check, right?

[E]

Call him now. Yes.

[B]

I mean, allegedly. I can't say.

[A]

He's up.

[E]

He called him on speaker.

[F]

Do I think he took a check? I have no idea. What I will say is it looks. Just looking at it like he made some concessions that he wasn't. Doesn't have power to make. Yeah, that I can say for sure. You can't stop a movement that you didn't start. You can't stand in front of leadership and you also can't. And even if you did start it, which is which he didn't. You can't decide for the people. That's the problem when you have leadership that decides for the people. They represent us and the people didn't say. Now, I get there's no black people meeting where we all say, let's go back. But there's not even a consensus. It's not like there was a big clamor like, we gotta get back into Target. So I don't know what made it happen. Now, there was a major harm that the DEI retreat caused black people. The activists are saying, until Target addresses that harm, we're not going nowhere, period.

[A]

And that makes all the sense in the world. Target, if you need a voice that could get.

[F]

Get these black asses back, Back in the line.

[E]

I bet you he reached out to them.

[A]

I'm joking. Reached out.

[F]

They reach out.

[A]

That's some real sellout.

[F]

That's the thing. They, they.

[E]

Who is Jamal Mar, leader of Mark. Oh, besides the congregation.

[F]

I think he is a significant voice in the modern civil rights. You got National Action Network, Al Sharpton. Of course, Reverend Jackson has now passed. You got Mark Morial of Urban League, and Jamal Bryant is in that conversation. He's very active in these issues.

[E]

So I don't found one person to say like, you know what?

[F]

That's my leader.

[E]

Everybody bust out laughing like, nigga, who the fuck are you?

[F]

I think there's people who, who, who see it differently. I think there are people who see him as a leader. I ain't got a problem with him being a leader.

[A]

Too late.

[F]

But who are you leading?

[A]

Ordering my soap from Amazon. Now, I don't know if that's helping.

[F]

There's some other maybe local black businesses you can order them from.

[E]

He doesn't support black business because they're black. He likes if the quality is good. Is it nice?

[A]

Hey, hey. Hey, Mom.

[F]

Anyway, what were you saying about.

[A]

Look at those lies you just spread on.

[F]

You were just saying you don't, you don't.

[A]

I don't support black businesses.

[E]

That came directly from your mouth because.

[A]

No, but that sounds nasty, but that's what the.

[F]

So why don't you support black business, Joseph?

[A]

I do support black businesses.

[B]

What's wrong with black quality versus white quality? What's.

[A]

What's the difference? I didn't know quality had, well, color.

[B]

They said you don't support black business.

[A]

Yeah, but that's not true. Don't believe I. Oh, okay.

[E]

I can't even help, but hopefully we

[F]

can get Jamal Bryant to answer some questions.

[A]

Come up here, Jamal. It's a target down the street or not.

[F]

We, we would love to hear from him. I, I love the brother. I'm going talk to him. But I, I, as of Based on all the information I have right now, I totally disagree with what he's done.

[E]

I would have loved if they even heard that he reached out to them sisters at least just out of a respect thing. Cuz if they were men, they probably would have. But the fact that they women is just like whatever.

[F]

I don't know if it's a gender thing. I mean it could be. You could be right. But I think a lot of times national leaders step on local, local leaders regardless. It's just an easy thing to do. But I mean you're. I don't, I don't know. You know, it'll be interesting to see. Speaking of companies, did y' all see Carnival Cruise clapping back?

[D]

What happened?

[A]

I don't know anything about this.

[F]

Oh yeah, they.

[C]

Who was the first clap?

[A]

Yeah, what happened? Who are they clapping at?

[F]

This white family made a video. I'm so happy they did this. And I don't usually root for the corporation, but this is one of the times when the corporation is 100. Right.

[A]

Also lastly, real quick, just because I'm reading this here, it says Pastor Jamal Bryant plans to address misinformation. Says he'll go live to discuss the target controversy. So we'll wait and see what he has to say about it. Okay, you were saying? I'm sorry.

[F]

No, no, no. The Carnival Cruise is upset. Was upset. Reasonably so. I think this family made this very viral TikTok video of them running for a Carnival Cruise.

[A]

Oh, it was the wrong boat.

[F]

And when they got to the boat and the boat was put. Pulling off.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

And they were upset, they were, they were crying. They lost their whole, you know, they missed their whole trip and it went viral. People were like on Carnival Cruise for not having better provisions for this, for not stopping the boat. Although it's hard to watch. Turns out the whole thing was a. Was a fraud. There was no boat. They made up the whole thing just to go famous on the Internet.

[A]

The family.

[F]

The family. So they, they didn't even have a. They never trip. So footage was they did what everybody does, they make up some shit AI and all that to make it look like they were running for a boat. You know what I mean? Or they, or, or maybe there was a ship, but it wasn't there.

[B]

They wasn't supposed to be on it anyway.

[F]

But the point is they, there was no dilemma. There was no problem, there was no crisis. The tears were fake, the drama was fake. And Carnival is now saying they're going to sue the family.

[B]

They should.

[A]

They should.

[F]

And, and that's the thing. Wow.

[A]

Good.

[F]

That's what I said. I don't normally side with corporations, but they very heavy happy.

[B]

I'm with that because we need to

[F]

stop this dumb on the Internet where people keep making up drama, making up stories, doing shit for clicks and likes. Somebody pays the price for that. And while I'm not going to lose a whole lot of sleep for Carnival Cruise, you know, I know what it's like to have a business. I know it's like to just have a reputation. You don't want people out here making up. And Carnival said, look, we have. Just so y' all know, we have provisions for this.

[D]

We.

[F]

We contact all the families when people are running late for a cruise. We reach out to. We do all these things to make sure that that scene you saw would never happen. And for them to come out and do this hurts our reputation, hurts our brand. We just got a bunch of bad press for no reason. Yeah. And the truth is, people may not even see the correction. They're only going to see the viral video of the family getting left. So I'm just like, I'm glad to see companies finally striking back against people who are doing this bullshit on the Internet because we're at a moment now in the world where we don't know what's true and what's not.

[B]

It's bad.

[A]

It's bad. Yeah. So.

[B]

And I'm on the side of the company on this too.

[F]

I'm with you.

[B]

You can't just keep making up shit. Somebody gonna jump on your ass.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

As they should.

[B]

And they should.

[F]

I hate that shit. I hate it.

[D]

Drama's profitable these days, right? So if you can make a buck off of some misinformation, people are gonna do it. And with the AI, it's hard to distinguish what's real from what's fake.

[A]

Speaking of made up stories, white people, how much grace y' all want me to give y' all before I come in and start talking about what I. I think of this Nancy Guthrie shit

[D]

for real, she's still missing.

[F]

Tell the truth. Shame the devil. What's going on?

[A]

I mean, I don't think it's time right now because that just seems like it's early still. But I will say that my conspiracy brain is on the go now. Come on, dog. Enough. Enough. But I'm not gonna be insensitive, so I'm gonna weight. But it's fishy.

[C]

It's definitely fishy.

[A]

It's fishy.

[C]

It's been fishy.

[A]

It's been fishy. How they are handling it currently seems fishy. The tip line seems fishy. The reward seems fishy. The bit. The 2 million in Bitcoin requests that never came seems fishy. No proof of life seems fishy. The video that they have of the guy wearing a mask. Mask. Fidgeting with the camera outside. That seems. There's a lot that seems fishy about it. It does. And it's just eerily quiet for this to be such a high profile case that was on the news and in our face every day for the better part of a month. Something doesn't seem right.

[F]

You know, something's missing. I just don't know what. The thing is, I don't know where the fishness is coming from. That's why I'm gonna need your insight when you're ready to just.

[A]

This just feels, you know. I know the police said that they've already exonerated all family, cleared all family members from being suspects. Well, just because you're my mom don't mean you could talk. I hear, hey, mom and. And girlfriend. I'm hearing voices on the side during a broadcast. Yeah. Now, I don't remember what I was saying.

[C]

You fear for your safety now, as you should.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm scared now. No, my mom definitely loves you. She does. She does.

[E]

Hey,

[A]

we'll get back to that. We'll get back to Nancy Guthrie at some point. It's just feeling cover upish. I don't know what they could possibly be covering up. And cops clearing the family doesn't always say that. The family is clear. The cops said they wasn't looking at David for the Celeste murder. And we know how that want you

[B]

to get comfortable and think you in the clear and make a mistake.

[D]

It's crazy how people can get away with murder in 2026 with all this technology out here, like video cameras is everything.

[E]

I think I could do it.

[D]

You think so?

[E]

For sure.

[F]

I think so, too.

[E]

Telling you. You want to know my plan?

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

One of them was always. You know how people got those big trash cans and you flip it open? Sitting in the nigga trash can, Right. I'm gonna leave it there. It's like my shit for a joke.

[A]

Hey, mama, you would.

[E]

And I would hate to give it out. And then now y' all checking your trash cans before you walk up to him. So let's just leave it there. Just know I got some plans.

[B]

She says sit in the. Sit you in the trash can.

[E]

I mean, you coming to take your trash out 7 in the morning. Cause you got a pod, right? I pop out with a revolver. Bop.

[D]

That's how it happened in dead presidents. Remember that scene?

[A]

You don't say a word. You don't say a word, though, right? It's early in the morning, too.

[F]

Hey, hey. Got these guns. Hey, give it.

[A]

Give it up.

[E]

He bullies me.

[A]

Oh, my God. I don't have anything else that I think is super important that we need to get to.

[E]

Everything I want to talk about is super sad, so I'll wait for the next.

[A]

Thank the Lord. Oh, thank the Lord.

[E]

Oh, I have so much to say.

[A]

Sad stuff.

[E]

I mean, it's a little. I don't want to talk about it. Okay.

[A]

All right, now, Mark, did you see bro Rilla take. Take them chick shopping?

[F]

Blue.

[A]

Blue. 25 grand.

[E]

She was in Philly, too.

[C]

All that worked my hill money on.

[B]

That's why she was in Philly.

[A]

Good thing you didn't send that five.

[F]

That was his break.

[E]

Started run down and whip her ass playing with Mark like that. But I let it go.

[F]

It's all good. She happy. We good now. I think me and her good. I. I didn't respond to her last message where she demanded a correction on air.

[E]

No, she did not.

[F]

Yeah, I didn't. I only read to the part that you could read. I. I want to open it. So I just. I just like, bro, you better go online and tell them the truth.

[E]

You got to know when to tap your sister in, man.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Mona would love that.

[B]

That'll make her day.

[A]

She act like we all know tough studs, too.

[B]

All right.

[A]

It's been good. I'm not talking about owner.

[E]

We know real tough stuff. She ain't a tough stud. It's video footage. Beat the up. Real studs fight back. They fight men.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Shout out to.

[A]

And if that interview offer is still on the table, we don't want it.

[F]

I think the price might have went up, man. She buying.

[A]

She.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Don't want that. You don't want that interview.

[A]

Let me drink this water.

[E]

Ain't nothing you could do with that small head.

[A]

No change their minds after they learned that fat. That cat was fat.

[E]

Wait a minute. Wait.

[F]

Bro Rilla put out a picture showing the moose knuckle.

[E]

No, she did.

[F]

Yes, she did.

[E]

That bear her coochie fat. Is it better? Is it hairy? We talked about that.

[A]

No, I mean, it was through the little spandex. It was through the fencing, whatever she had on.

[E]

But was it a fro?

[B]

You can't.

[A]

We can't see that hair. Y'.

[E]

All might think it's fat. It's just fro some of them.

[A]

No, it has shaped hair on it.

[E]

Look at you doubling down on the side.

[A]

I'm telling. That thing was fat. It was fat. I came here, told Mark. Hey, Mark, you might want to call up at that little fat moose and uncle. Might be genetic.

[E]

Yeah, I gotta watch it, though. I got in a lot of trouble.

[C]

That is disgusting.

[A]

All right, all right. I'm done with this part. Is there anything else? Huh?

[E]

It's a good show.

[A]

I bust you upside your head. There's nothing else that we need to hit, right? We hit all that we can. Again, Rest in peace to Lord Sear and her. Yes, rest in peace again. The Oscars are tomorrow. I don't see anything else up there that I need. That I need the hit. Y' all ain't going to talk while I end this?

[F]

Y' all got anything planned this weekend?

[B]

Might be outside. I think we going to be outside this weekend.

[F]

It's too cold for that.

[C]

Look at that weather app.

[A]

I'm on daddy duty.

[E]

Oh, did y' all see the snow?

[B]

Yeah, I saw a little.

[C]

Yeah, I got a little snow yesterday.

[A]

Me up crazy.

[B]

Listen, it could be zero degrees when we get a chance to go outside.

[F]

Are you kidless?

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Oh. Oh, yeah, I understand. If I was kidless, I'd be outside, too.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

I'm hanging out with my kid. She's going to get her hair braided. Might get some new sneakers.

[A]

There you go.

[F]

That braid is the cheat. By, like six hours, yo, he go do a whole bunch of.

[A]

In six hours.

[F]

He dropped my kid off with them Africans. She ain't even notice.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

I was going all day, so.

[D]

Trying to get father of the Year. You know what I mean?

[F]

Yes, sir.

[A]

What am I doing this weekend? I ain't got nothing planned. I might be at a nick game. I might be out and about today. Who knows? I might keep it low. Whatever the boss says. Yeah, whatever the boss says. That's it I'll be doing, huh? Might even. Might even get a little date night in seven years. It's your lucky night. Hey, I got some coupons for you. The bar is in hell. Before we get out of here, I do want to shout out those kids, those ROTC kids at Old Dominion up there in Virginia, who terminated the threat, terminated the shooter threat with their bare hands. That was impressive. Y' all did that. Shout out to y', all, Hey, real good. Five today.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Listen, man, hopefully you all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Arriba dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long goodbye or simple head now to suffice. Hey, remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we had. Ego. Really mad that I missed the chemistry at Blue Note last week. Or a few days ago too. Shout out to chemistry.

[B]

Forgot I told you about it.

[A]

I know you told me about it. Totally, totally, totally forgot.

[B]

Your man is there next week. No, week after next. Dustin Who? Dustin, comrade.

[A]

Hey, Dustin Conrad. At Blue Note.

[F]

Blue Note Jazz Festivals in June too. He gonna be there. Duran Bernard gonna be there. Slum village gonna be there.

[A]

Oh, nice. Wow.

[F]

There. Goodbye. I'm done with you.

[A]

Yo, hold it down, man. Listen, everybody, have a good weekend. Stay safe. Stay away from crime, stay away from jail. Protective custody. Boosie R. All them. They mean you no good ego. Good luck tomorrow. Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Coogler. Anybody. Anybody that had anything to do with sinners and Janet Jackson. Hold your head. Jermaine can't do Latoya neither. Rest in peace, lord. Seer nastas e. Gotta say, man, the music selection on this part today, man.

[C]

You call it today.

[A]

I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you. Thank you.

[D]

Intro.

[A]

I killed Intro's fire today.

[F]

Hour one.

[A]

Mona. He's in our bag. Hour one. You should have been here for.