Episode 917 | "Memoirs"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 917 | "Memoirs"
Date: April 4, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Panel: Parks, Mark Lamont Hill, B Dot, Ish, Freeze, and others

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Overview

In Episode 917 ("Memoirs"), Joe Budden and his eclectic crew deliver a high-energy, funny, and at times serious conversation on family reflections, generational patterns, current hip hop crime drama, "memoirs" (both literal and metaphorical), and the often messy intersection of celebrity, culture, and controversy. The episode blends personal confessions, lively debates on pop culture news (from Brandy’s new memoir to Gucci Mane’s robbery), and hot takes on hip-hop history—all in the familiar, uncensored tone the podcast is known for.

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Main Themes and Discussion Points

1. Reflections on Fatherhood and Aging

• Timestamps: 00:28 – 04:47

• Key Insights:

  • The crew opens up about evolving as fathers, adjusting expectations, and understanding that who they are now is far from who they imagined in their youth.
  • Joe emphasizes that, in your 40s, you realize your "picket fence" dreams are often a myth and you’re navigating family chaos, generational "curses," and learning to simply pay bills and survive.

  "In my head, my whole life, the dad I thought I would be versus the dad that I am—I’m super clear on it." – Joe [00:28]

2. Family Gatherings, Aging Aunties, and Longevity

• Timestamps: 02:35 – 04:14
• Joe tells stories about his 90-year-old Aunt Catherine, noting the strength and longevity in his family, with humor about “breaking curses” but admitting many old patterns are hard to break.

3. Everyday Life: Relationships, Grooming, and Routine

• Timestamps: 04:14 – 06:10
• The pod lightly explores household routines—like dealing with kids and even “gooch” grooming—with characteristic banter and jokes, highlighting intimacy and awkwardness in adult life.

4. Religion, Cultural Sensitivity, and Viral Moments

• Timestamps: 06:10 – 10:51

• Discussion about prayer times, religious apps, and a viral plane incident where a Muslim passenger’s prayer alarm scared people into having him removed, sparking comments on Islamophobia and xenophobia.

  "You still can't kick somebody off a plane because the alarm is..." – Joe [09:07]

5. Parenting Approach, Karate Classes, and The ROI on Kids’ Activities

• Timestamps: 12:09 – 14:35
• Mark shares stories about putting his son in karate, the difficulties, and the wild expectations parents have. The crew discusses the impulse to physically “test” the effectiveness of these classes.

6. On Paying Dues: Life and Child Support

• Timestamps: 14:35 – 20:56

• They unpack the complicated realities of child support—from willful non-payment to the harsh inflexibility of the system for high-earning creatives whose incomes drop over time.

  "You just learn... just pay, yo." – Joe [14:52]

• Hip hop legends’ huge child support obligations are discussed (mentioning Puff Daddy’s case), state-by-state differences, and how celebrity fortunes shift.

7. Mid Women, Field Goal Percentages, and Dating Realness

• Timestamps: 22:01 – 26:29

• The group breaks into a candid and hilarious riff on men’s dating “field goal percentages” and their own histories of dating women that weren’t always “tens.”

  "Sometimes you gotta hit some ugly just to pay your homage back to the ugly hoes." – B [22:16]

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8. Current Events: The Pooh Shiesty & Gucci Mane Robbery Drama

• Timestamps: 39:04 – 63:53

• In-depth, often comical but ultimately serious breakdown of the alleged robbery and kidnapping of Gucci Mane by Pooh Shiesty, his father (Mob Boss), and associates.

  • They discuss street rules vs. business life, the irrationality and surveillance culture of current crime, and the likely legal consequences.
  • Criticism of internet crime “clout” and self-incrimination on social media.
  • A larger commentary on generational cycles, decision-making, and when “street code” applies or doesn’t.

  "This is one of my worst nightmares: tough niggas that’s not bright." – Joe [54:09]
  "You just going...no transfer, do not pass go, you just going." – D [46:11]

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9. Rap Contracts, Hip Hop Business, and the Evolution of "Solving Problems"

• Timestamps: 63:53 – 65:53
• Comparison of today’s violent record label encounters with the 90s-2000s era, where disputes were settled with threats, intimidation, and even physical assaults—but not to the "one way ticket" level of today’s feds/Glock culture.

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10. Brandy’s Memoir & Wanya Morris Controversy

• Timestamps: 98:52 – 121:51

• Mark reviews Brandy’s memoir, especially her relationship with Wanya Morris (Boyz II Men), exposing their underage romance and the predatory culture of the music industry.

  • They play back a disturbing Breakfast Club interview, dissect the power dynamics and industry complicity, and discuss the ethics of tell-all memoirs.

  "If the issue was justice, then why is this a 30-year secret?" – Joe [115:15] "There’s a way that like, that just became the norm of the culture...it’s not to excuse it, it’s to say...maybe we’ve grown since then." – Mark [114:25]

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11. Rap Subliminals: Jay Z, Cam’ron, and Rapper “Diss” Culture

• Timestamps: 122:14 – 129:13

• A deep dive into Jay Z’s legendary use of subliminals and “shots” at other MCs, highlighted by Cam’ron’s revelation that Jay had sneak-dissed him years earlier. They debate how much the public (and even targets) really “get it” and the art of indirect disses.

  "You just never know...those are the best. Even the target has no choice but to say, that’s so slick." – Joe [125:07]

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12. Who Stands Untouchable in Versus Battles?

• Timestamps: 163:42 – 169:41

• Debating legacy artists—Jay Z, Ye, Drake, Wayne, Mary, Mariah, Beyoncé, Madonna, Rihanna, Stevie Wonder, and Michael Jackson—and whether anyone is “unbeatable” in a Versus setting.

  "Kanye could do a stadium tour...he could do the Super Bowl in his sleep. But will they ever let him? Never." – Group consensus [170:25 & 172:19]

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13. Louis CK, Cancel Culture, and Comedy

• Timestamps: 150:45 – 152:35
• Reacting to Louis CK’s return to Netflix and refuting his “cancellation”—while debating the ethics and nuances of public accountability for artists.

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14. Lizzo, Celibacy, and Celebrity Confessions

• Timestamps: 156:08 – 157:40
• Brief segment on Lizzo stating she lost her virginity at 30, prompting discussions about societal sexual pressures.

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15. Pranks, April Fools, and Public Embarrassment

• Timestamps: 88:23 – 98:46
• The panel debates the ethics and humor of pranks—especially those that publicly humiliate unsuspecting people, citing the Wizards’ April Fools trick as an example. They draw the line between harmless jokes and mean-spiritedness, but generally approve if the “victim” is in on it.

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16. New Music & Hip Hop Releases

• Timestamps: 173:58 – 181:57

• Recommendations and quick reviews of:

  • Marlon Craft – The Internet Killed The Neighborhood
  • Swae Lee – Same Difference (initially praised, then noted for pop pivots)
  • Juicy J & DJ Scream project (Lex Luger production throwback)
  • Meek Mill’s new freestyles (highly praised by the crew)
  • 2 Chainz’s “Selector” (debate over prominent samples)
  • Rick Ross’ new artist Nino Breeze

  "Shout out to the artist, Big Jersey...Album is called DND. Big Jersey, congratulations. Keep doing it." – Joe [180:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Generational Patterns:
  "You learn that who you are is so different from who you always thought you would be." – Joe [00:45]
• On Clout and Crime:
  "Yo, y’all ever send a message with the invisible ink?...None of this shit really goes away." – Joe [67:40]
• On Brandy & Hip Hop Culture:
  "If the issue was justice, then why is this a 30-year secret?" – Joe [115:15]
• On Jay Z’s Subliminals:
  "That’s so brilliant, even the target has no choice but to say, that’s so slick." – Joe [125:13]
• On Kanye's Super Bowl Shot:
  "He could do the Super Bowl in his sleep. But will they ever let him? Never." – Joe [170:25]
• On Parenting & Relationships:
  "I’m so cool with her being right most the time...My memory going, my vision is gone." – Joe [136:51]
• On Hip-Hop’s Evolution:
  "Today’s violent record label encounters...not to the 'one way ticket' level of today’s feds/Glock culture." – Group [63:53]

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Additional Lighthearted/Memorable Bits

• Family “curses” and trying to avoid being the "parent who’s on Worldstar.”
• “If you wear light colored Timbs, you probably have bad taste when it comes to music.” [158:23]
• Cheeky banter about estheticians with “fat asses” and Noxzema as old-school men’s face care.
• The invention of “BBK vs. Chubby Checker” in a fictional Verzuz.
• Parks’ success with Prize Picks and being called the “Potter of the Month”.

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Conclusion / Episode Vibe

This episode is a quintessential JBP ride: wild, raw, insightful, and unfailingly funny. Deep dives into black family dynamics, music industry drama, shifting morals, and the confused dance of legacy and progress bring both nostalgia and reflection. With off-beat stories, wisecracks, and real talk, "Memoirs" sums up the unfiltered, lived-experience wisdom and chaos that’s made the pod a staple of the culture.

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show no more.

[B]

But that.

[A]

But that's why. But that's why I tell you now. That's why your 40s is so great. Hey, audience, we talking about the kids. That's why your 40s is so great. Because what is that? Think so. Oh, you learn. You learn. Just you learn that who you are is so different from. From who you always thought you would be. Like, in my head, my whole life, the dad I thought I would be versus the dad that I am. I'm super clear on it.

[B]

Who you thought you was gonna be?

[C]

What kind of dad are you?

[A]

I thought I would love these niggas.

[D]

You was gonna be Heath Clips.

[A]

Yeah, I thought I would be like, you know, breaking generational curses, being there for them, feeding them first steps, take it to happy family, picket fence. Oh, we rich. We da da da. It ain't that.

[B]

Now you with the curses, dog.

[A]

I woke up.

[E]

Now you like, man.

[A]

Oh, I get them curses. I see why the curses is like, I woke up to a house full of kids.

[B]

How old?

[C]

How old?

[B]

Cause that's important, nigga.

[A]

Old enough to. Whereas when they woke up, they started moving. They just started walking around. The morning is when I be in my Mandingo bag, too. That's when I'm walking around on rock, ready to fold moms up.

[C]

I forgot you were here.

[A]

These niggas knocked on the door and said, yo, I'm hungry. Go open the cupboard. Do what I do.

[E]

Uber eats.

[A]

Open up Uber eats. Find your favorite spot. Oh, my God.

[D]

At seven in the morning.

[A]

Yeah. And I got. And I'm. And I'm driving and I'm flying with kids, and I'm flying into more kids. My brother, younger brother who want to snuff me. Thank God. My older brother coming. It's about to get hectic at the family pressure. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

That's when you going to a family reunion?

[A]

No, I'm going to my aunt and Dubin. It's my Aunt Catherine's 90th birthday.

[E]

Wow.

[F]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Happy birthday, Aunt Catherine. But Aunt Cath, nobody knew. Like, you had to be live with her to know. Oh, Aunt Catherine is Aunt Catherine. Look and move around like she's 77.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

I'm talking about every Sunday. Still cooking for 19 million people. Still taking care of the bad kids, the bad grandkids, the bad great grandkids. The younger husband, who's 62, moving around like she still is the one. Like, since my grandfather died. Rest in peace to my grandfather. So she's turning 90. So how do you miss.

[B]

Nah, nah, you gotta be different.

[A]

Her older sister turned 90 fucking two years ago. Damn.

[C]

Your family lives forever, Joe.

[A]

We got good genes. If you got to kill yourself. Yeah, but we'll do that, too. We'll do that, too. What?

[E]

Yo, bro.

[D]

Nothing, bro.

[E]

I get what you mean. Like, you gotta take. Like, you gotta live hard.

[A]

No, he said kill yourself. No, I'm saying. No, that's not what I'm saying. And trigger warning. That's not what I'm saying. That's what I was like. I'm saying the genes. The genes are good. That's.

[E]

Yeah, the bones are good to the house.

[C]

You just.

[A]

You would have to do something to you. Whether it's drinking, whether 40 years hard. Yeah. How you living? Yeah, live hard. Live hard. Live hard. You have to do that. But, yeah, they. They. So. Yeah, we gonna rap, everybody. All the buttons is flying. Boy, that pork ain't did that all over the place. She want to do this on her yard, which that ain't where we normally do. You about to have 7,000 buttons running. Oh, my God. I woke up. A button text me. Buttons don't be hitting my phone.

[D]

Just every now button like it was a customer service agent.

[A]

A button text me. Because we ain't just waking up on the phone with each other all year.

[D]

My uncle texts me.

[A]

Yeah, but he texted me this morning at like, 8am after the kids is hungry and the dick on soft. Now they gotta get dressed. Gotta take off the Winnie the Pooh sport mode I was in. Thank God. Gotta start being responsible, B. Cuz you get this blackhead this in my gooch. I don't want to try. All right. What? That's what you. That's what you doing the house with your girl? No.

[E]

Never. Shut up.

[A]

Y' all are lying.

[D]

No, if you could reach it.

[E]

I've never.

[D]

If you could reach it, I'll reach it on my own. If I can't get it, then I'll tell my girl to get it.

[A]

Is he the only one that that applies to in here?

[E]

Well, you said you do the gooch reaching or you get the gooch reaching.

[D]

I'm saying tell his girl get this shit.

[A]

Oh, telling her to get it.

[B]

Thought you talking about the gooch?

[C]

A blackhead.

[A]

I thought you Gooch. Y' all heard Gooch and just got into yalls.

[E]

I heard what you heard.

[F]

The implication was the blackhead wasn't the gooch.

[A]

Yeah, that's what he said.

[B]

That's what he.

[A]

I'm not getting a blackhead that's in my gooch. You can't reach it. So what are they talking about? I'm confused.

[C]

Yeah, blackheads.

[B]

How you know you got the blackhead in your gooch?

[D]

My girl, tell me.

[B]

I'm asking him.

[A]

All right, Y' all being up.

[B]

You know how he.

[A]

Wait. What you saying?

[E]

Buttons, man, freeze.

[A]

What you saying? But big dog, nothing, man.

[D]

I can see you taking a camera going.

[B]

Did I get them angles?

[D]

Yo, annual shave.

[B]

You just got hairy black.

[A]

That's what you're doing. Oh, that got a gang grown in the gooch. That's crazy. That is crazy. Think it's crazy that I don't see the big deal. That's crazy, sir. Anyway, how y' all doing, man? Good.

[F]

Feeling good, man.

[A]

How are you? I'm glad you're all in a good. Go to my Russian lady. Yo.

[B]

She'll take care.

[A]

Go to your Russian lady. No, I support black business.

[E]

Support black business.

[F]

Could be a black Russian.

[A]

I support black. The Russian lady. What? Don't play. I went to get in the car the other day in a rush. I walked outside, that truck didn't move. I'm like, oh, that's odd. He ain't moving. Let me walk over there. Walk up in. Here he go again. He in the middle of the deepest Muslim prayer. Oh, shit. I got my son. I got my son with me. He confused. He like, hey. So I'm like, this dude don't budge during that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, and the car didn't move.

[B]

No, you gotta. Wait, wait.

[A]

That's not crazy.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Yeah. It's a law against you thinking it's crazy, too. You go to jail. Like, you can't do that.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

You don't chastise us for six months over some prayer.

[A]

You.

[F]

You got no ground to stand on there.

[A]

My beef is not with the Prius. That I don't know the times.

[F]

Oh, well, just tell me the time.

[B]

Get the app.

[A]

Get the app for that. I'm sure there's an app for everything.

[E]

Of course there's app.

[D]

Are you serious?

[B]

Yeah, there's a. Yeah.

[A]

So.

[E]

So in most of the world, there's a. The adan plays, right? So you hear it at the masjid. So the idea is that if you can have an app that'll. That'll be the. It'll basically be the adan for you. So like it's. It's a call to prayer on your phone. So it'll say it's 6:22 or.

[D]

That's what we talked about with the dudes on the plane. That's what his went off on his phone. And they. Everybody on the plane got scared and they didn't they take him off the plane? Yeah, they took him off the plane.

[F]

Horrible.

[E]

It was awful.

[D]

Damn.

[E]

It was awful. But then.

[A]

Wait, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on.

[E]

Go ahead, Joe.

[A]

I just don't remember. I don't remember us covering.

[D]

It was like two weeks ago.

[A]

Rewind.

[D]

No, but he took my man off the plane.

[B]

Everybody got scared.

[F]

I think we had to edit a

[A]

significant part, but I understand.

[D]

Yeah, they took them out to play.

[C]

Happy Good Friday.

[A]

Happy Good Friday.

[E]

Happy Good Friday, everybody.

[A]

You can't take me off the plane because my phone went off.

[D]

It depend on what your phone say.

[E]

Well, it wasn't because the phone went off. It's what it went off with.

[A]

Do you know what the alarm or some shit. Do you know? Wait, wait, wait.

[B]

Do you know what the.

[A]

No.

[E]

When the alarm goes off, it's like a law who act but Allah who act but the law who act by the law who act like that. So the people on the plane.

[A]

Same God is there and this is why we had to wait. We covered this?

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Where was I? Right there.

[E]

He was right in that fucking seat.

[B]

Joe, we cut a lot out.

[E]

So the people on the plane, because they're Islamophobic and xenophobic, they hear a foreign language and say, well, if it's a foreign language, something awful must be happening.

[A]

Yeah, you still can't do that. It's wrong. I don't care.

[D]

You.

[A]

You still can't kick somebody off plane because the alarm is.

[E]

I agree.

[A]

You right. They're saying that as well, bro. You still can't do that.

[D]

You're not supposed to do that.

[E]

No, no, you can't. Excuse me, I have a plane for. For.

[A]

But where was the plane headed? That's gonna let me know.

[E]

We told you this exact question you asked a couple weeks ago.

[A]

Now it's out. Yo, yo, yo, yo. I thought this guy.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

Hey, yo, get that, get that. Mark, what's wrong with you?

[D]

Yo,

[B]

I'm not. Nah, nah, nah.

[A]

I wish we could keep that. Cut all that out.

[F]

Yo.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

Find the tallest building in the metropolis.

[D]

Yo, what is wrong?

[A]

Never forgot.

[E]

Oh, so all Right. So.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Yo, reset.

[A]

Come back. No, I'm not as good if it's Mark. So.

[E]

Yes, the plane was headed to Florida.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I think it made a stop. And I. I don't remember now. I think it was Tennessee. Maybe Nashville in particular, But I'm not 100 on that. But I know it was headed to Florida and they did reroute it or whatever. And it was awful. It was as ugly as lyophobia. There was no reason for it. You know, the guy was at least brown as well.

[F]

It's horrible.

[E]

So it was like the combo, all joking.

[A]

Can he sue?

[E]

Probably.

[F]

And probably was, hell yeah, he can sue.

[E]

He should sue.

[A]

All right, good.

[E]

You know, and once again, also, Happy Good Friday to.

[A]

Indeed. Happy Easter.

[E]

Happy Friday. All the things.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

What a start. Please play something.

[E]

Please play some music, Jones.

[D]

Anything. Yeah, you might need to change your whole.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[F]

Go ahead.

[A]

Yo, do you think. Do your thing. Yo.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Hey, Parks, window or aisle?

[F]

Oh, I'm aisle.

[C]

You're aisle guy.

[F]

I'm aisle.

[C]

Yeah, got it.

[F]

I'm an aisle guy.

[E]

Same.

[B]

I'm window guy.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. It's cause of my leg that's Brandon Brand you5, six. This knee was repaired, so I have to constantly pop it out. It's my left leg, so it's easier.

[D]

Preferably the right arm.

[A]

It's so contradictory of what your sweatshirt says.

[E]

What do you mean?

[A]

What is wrong with you dogs? It is, right? Like, I read that shit. He was like, don't let these degrees fool you. So I'm like, damn, fool me in the world. Oh, Marcus talking that shit. But now he's sitting there talking about his prosthetic leg.

[E]

Prosthetic,

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I could do a lot with a prosthetic leg, though.

[D]

And once it warm up.

[E]

Yeah, once that your asses. Once you'll get drinking, right?

[A]

Oh, man, that is hilarious.

[E]

Yo, I started my son in karate this week.

[B]

I thought he knew it, the way he was fucking you up the other day.

[E]

So I was like, let me. Let me get this shit. He broke his first board. I'm very proud. He broke his first board on the first day. He's been asking to go back. Cause he is, you know, soccer. He was terrible at me.

[A]

Go take him to a rage room.

[E]

So that's the thing. Karate calms that down, apparently. Does it?

[F]

Ish.

[D]

I wasn't young.

[B]

It wasn't.

[A]

No, boy.

[F]

It's actually funnier that you weren't young.

[A]

I be thinking the longer he works here, he'll cop to certain lies. He don't.

[F]

Nah.

[C]

Or 36 in a karate class or something.

[E]

Yes, yes.

[A]

He heard that bar.

[F]

And was like, me too.

[A]

Me too.

[F]

I'm joining the dojo.

[E]

Well, he's getting it in. I'm just very excited. I'm gonna keep you all updated. But he did really good. They did ask him to leave yesterday.

[A]

Yeah. Them kids. Third day on the job. Third day of the job.

[E]

The sensei actually asked you to leave.

[A]

What happened, bro?

[E]

Yeah, he was. And he stopped his next class. Like, do we have a problem over there? He was just worked up. He didn't want to leave. And then he started getting a little too aggressive. Aggressive with his new education. But it's gonna come. It's gonna come.

[B]

He'll get there.

[E]

I'm very proud of him. So I want to salute him for getting his.

[A]

I got a question for you while we on that topic.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

How does. If you're a parent, how do you square up with your kid to see if they are in karate?

[E]

You mean, like, test them to see if it's working? Oh, to see if it's working.

[A]

He wanted to see if he even needs classes that I keep paying for. I ain't got no confirmation. I never asked for a receipt.

[F]

Y' all got a board or a brick or something?

[C]

You want like a roi?

[A]

I mean, how long we gonna get certain things off?

[E]

I'm physically there.

[A]

He's big enough to give it a shot. Like, all right.

[E]

Oh, he talking about his kid now. See,

[D]

you thinking Stash.

[E]

He ain't did narrative not what.

[D]

Yo, that's crazy.

[A]

I ain't even tough enough to ask the real neighborhood kids to come. Is this in full or half of the. Of the price? Yeah. I don't got no ball.

[E]

I'm a right complete.

[A]

Things be going so great, though. Yeah. Shut up, man.

[E]

That's the thing you learn is in your 40s about paying your parents.

[A]

Things are going great.

[D]

Shut up.

[A]

Shut up.

[E]

Don't start. No one be.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

And it don't hurt you.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

Just pay.

[F]

That applies to more than just raising kids.

[A]

That's just life in general. Right?

[E]

Just pay.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It. Some people don't know what.

[A]

Just pay. Yeah. Just pay, yo.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Nah. Cause let pride and ego get in. Get in the way of it.

[A]

Of just paying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just pay.

[B]

Not that.

[A]

I mean, I'm saying somebody that was on the run for at least a good 15 years of my life. Calling yourself rebelling against the system. Then you just learn.

[B]

Just pay.

[A]

Just Pay, Just pay.

[B]

It don't hurt.

[A]

Cuz when they pick you up, you're going to be in the middle of headed to one of the best nights of your life. You're going to have a pocket full of money, a fresh shape up, some perks, fresh new outfit on.

[F]

Best night of your life.

[A]

You're gonna have a. One of these.

[D]

Shorty done text you that.

[A]

Nice. Yeah, something nice. You about to meet up with her.

[D]

She got one with her.

[A]

Oh. Oh, yeah. They had BBQs. They over there. Big drinks in front of the big pina colada. They waiting on you. That's when they go pull you right over. You're going to jail. You're done. Damn.

[E]

Yeah, I'm a lot less likely to bail a nigga out if he's locked up for child support.

[A]

For real?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there's a list of people who call me for shit to get out of jail. I got caught with this. I got caught with this. I got. You know, they framed me.

[A]

You.

[E]

You locked up for child support? Yeah. That's not the. I'm not, I'm not. That's. That's not at the top of the list. That's not the top three. The shit I would bail somebody out for. Cause you had opportunities to. To handle that. Like you just said, like, you a perfect example. Y' all do.

[A]

No, no, no. Don't put me in that. Cory just hit me. There's no way for me to argue it and not sound like a scumbag. And I do that enough for entertainment purposes.

[D]

You see me like this now.

[E]

Something happened in the system. Like if the system shitted on you or something happened. That's different. But I'm talking about, like, I got homies that just don't pay.

[C]

Are they, like, active in their kid's life?

[E]

Some are, some aren't, you know, and the ones.

[D]

And they got it.

[E]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, basically, I'm not bailing y' all for being trifling. That's what I'm saying. I get when shit happens. I get all this shit that child support is complicated. But I'm just saying, if you being trifling, I'm not bailing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I just don't think child support is a cut and dry thing. Definitely not.

[E]

It's usually not.

[A]

Like, if it's black. If it's black and white, I totally agree with you and would never argue against it. When it starts getting gray is when there's a dispute between you and her and Now y' all go to court, and now whatever she produced, she won. So now there's certain judgments against you. Your child support might be higher than you could afford. You may can afford it, but they put a warrant on you after every week and a half, two weeks, and you don't.

[E]

That I'm looking up a bunch of shit.

[A]

Like, there are some variables that even when I've. Even when I became willing to pay my child support, I had to learn how to pay child support.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Especially as a famous man in Jersey City, New Jersey.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, at some point, you was mailing it in. Then the mail might not get there. You get arrested, we got you. You like, yo, I paid. I got some.

[B]

It was a point in my life.

[E]

I was walking around with the receipts

[A]

on me, scared to death. So, I mean, I've been through all of. All the versions of that.

[E]

I got a homie who's. He was a writer. He wrote, like, a really great book that did. Sold a lot of copies, and his child support was determined based on that revenue that year. And then five years later, he wasn't making that money. He wasn't making almost any money. But the judge refused to lower it.

[B]

Yep.

[E]

And so he literally couldn't afford. He was paying what he had, but he couldn't afford it. He got locked up. I bailed him out. That's actually a perfect example. I bailed him out.

[A]

Okay. That's all I wanted to know if they were.

[E]

That's a good exact. But then I got a family member who was like, fuck you.

[B]

I ain't paying that shit.

[E]

Like, I ain't paying that.

[D]

But it should be nuanced. Like, the dude. My lawyer. The dude. We can hear you still, but I want to cover my mouth.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

The dudes that. That song.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It was a monster smash. Yeah, yeah, we got the same lawyer, bro. They child support was like some next level. Like, they was paying, like, a half a million dollars in child support. Like, they shit was like 50amonth. 40amonth. And then that song was a smash, and them niggas fell off. And when they fell off, they child support was still up there. 40, 50k a month. And they was getting locked up, and they was just going through the system, getting their asses whooped. And it was like, yo, they the. The judges was real, real reluctant to drop it, because they'll look at it like, yo, if you made that, that means you're capable of making that.

[A]

So you not doing whatever you got

[D]

to do to make that.

[F]

That situation was Also different. And I won't expound because I'll have to bleep more shit. But there was some nepotism in that situation that was.

[D]

That helped them make that much money.

[C]

Correct.

[D]

But then when they.

[F]

No, but I'm saying, like, even after that, like, do you know one of the.

[E]

I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Okay. I'm sure he probably still had. Had it on some level.

[D]

His family had it.

[F]

Okay, maybe.

[E]

And that's where it gets tricky just to. Just to add that other nuance is that some people hide their money to make it look like they can't afford the child support. So there's all these moving pieces. So then they assume everybody who fell off is lying and that, you know,

[B]

they're doing it to lower it to lower.

[E]

And so it's all these moving parts. That's why you gotta be. Yeah, you gotta be on top.

[C]

But a kid don't need $50,000 a month to survive, though, man.

[A]

Depends on what state you decided to shoot the club up in. For real. And that's the other beautiful thing about my 40s again. In my 20s, I'm calling myself the bucking. Whatever system. We black. We don't go through the courthouse, yada, yada. In my 40s, I've learned that I'm in the best part of the system. In New Jersey, I'm in the best part of the system.

[E]

What?

[D]

New Jersey is very male friendly.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Got you New Jersey.

[A]

New Jersey and. And Texas. Child's best interest. It's a little more.

[D]

It's supposed to be every state, but it's not.

[A]

But they don't.

[B]

You go to California, Florida, some of those new. Oh, yeah, New York.

[A]

Yeah, you're done, remember? So that's what I'm saying. If you, if you have a baby in Los Angeles, then that's on you, big dog. Yeah, you did that. So when they come asking for these outrageous numbers, she like, give it to me, Daddy.

[D]

No, we gotta go across state.

[A]

I remember one time, if I ever fucked in LA, I got out that pussy 40 minutes.

[E]

The hotel in Tulsa, the Tulsa Hyatt is green.

[D]

I'm gonna get you in Arizona, not la.

[A]

That's crazy. Yo, shoot it up, Daddy.

[D]

No, one time Puff was paying like

[C]

the highest child support in New York City history. No New York State history.

[E]

Wow. How much was it?

[C]

I think it was like 50,000. It was something crazy. It was an astronomical number.

[A]

Well, he should have paid more.

[C]

Word.

[A]

Take that, take that.

[B]

Puff went to court and kicked ass.

[D]

He got shit drop dropped like way Significantly. Cause he went to court and was like, yo, I buy all the clothes. I pay for all the school schooling. I do this, I do that, I

[B]

do this, I do that.

[D]

Now what?

[A]

I'm starting

[F]

for some music or maybe a little jokey joke.

[D]

No problem.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Hey, fellas. I hate when the homies try to

[B]

act like all you do is hit the fine. You don't be hitting just fine as

[E]

a who get these hoes. Sometimes I hit some weak gang. And there's nothing wrong with that.

[B]

I don't never feel like bad about it or nothing.

[E]

I'm gonna hit some ugly. I used to be one of the ugly.

[B]

Sometimes you gotta just, you know, pay

[E]

your homage back to the ugly hoes. Hit some ugly.

[B]

Sometimes the fine hoes not around.

[A]

It's three in the morning.

[B]

Who answering weak?

[A]

I'm getting weak.

[B]

Y' all can act like you ain't did it before.

[A]

It's cool game.

[B]

But you need to act like you

[E]

slay all these hoes.

[B]

Not all the you slay was the joints game. Not all of them was the fly.

[D]

I'm gonna keep it a bean. I'm gonna give it a minute.

[B]

Sometimes you gotta hit some ugly. Sometimes I like some ugly just because I like her.

[A]

She was looking at me too much,

[B]

but she was okay. I'm still gonna hit it like I like you.

[D]

I like your swag, your energy. Something about that ugly.

[B]

I'm gonna go. You be trying to act too cool,

[C]

like you only hit the tens.

[B]

GG's game, you don't only hit tens. Game.

[E]

You hit some 7.5 before.

[A]

You got lower than that too, before.

[F]

7.5 is not bad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean back.

[C]

That's passing.

[F]

Hit some better.

[A]

I love that clip. But I do think it's a little misleading because they're shooting percentages. The shooting percentages. Everybody has hit weak for sure. But how.

[F]

How.

[A]

Some people play in the weak a lot. And I think that they should be separated from them. Like the D league. Yeah. I don't want to be in the club with them. I ain't in that group.

[B]

Eskimo brothers with some of them.

[A]

But that. That's a totally different thing. That's totally different. But.

[B]

But his point is to the. That make like they don't do that at all. And there's a lot of who I don't know.

[A]

Oh, who's running around here like they don't hit no man.

[B]

A lot of is running around here like they never hit a piece of mid.

[A]

No. But are shooting at the mid.

[D]

Hourly show the might be middle.

[A]

Well, I don't know the guy.

[D]

I know. I'm saying the dudes that's shooting at the mid could be mid.

[A]

Nah, you could still shoot up.

[D]

Get tired of rejection.

[E]

What you talk about?

[D]

They just don't want to keep shooting for the. For the moon.

[E]

Right.

[C]

We'll miss the shots you don't take.

[E]

Yeah, I'm shooting some runners.

[A]

Worst thing she could say is no keep shooting threes.

[D]

See where your field goal percentage we at.

[A]

I'm gonna get some one of the land one. All you need to see is one go in.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

When one go in, you think you can hit Robin Givens. You can hit Holly. Go ahead and watch one go in.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

One go in. And you don't realize you was her bottom of the knife.

[D]

True.

[E]

That's why I went in. Right word.

[D]

You right.

[A]

That's a good realization. Realization as you get older too, when you learn that when you in hindsight recognize when you was the bottom of the knife.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

It's all right.

[A]

Got their off on me. I ain't gonna lie.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

I came off the bottom of the 12th.

[D]

I realized it early. Call you every three months.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, what's up, stranger?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Kids gone. I'm just sitting bored.

[B]

That's you.

[D]

You that break the glass. You that emergency dick in the glass.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

And that's fine.

[A]

It's flattering a little bit. It is.

[B]

I'm cool with it.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Thank you.

[C]

Actually, I'm the emergency contact.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm cool. I'll take it.

[D]

You might have been a fourth digger on the list.

[A]

Good looking. Other three.

[B]

Glad y' all was busy.

[A]

Yeah, as you get older, just turn into keeping an eye on the road games versus the home games. Start knowing exactly when homeboy is going to be out of town. Go ahead, homeboy. Ooh, four game road trip. Ooh, hope. Hope they making playoffs. What the Word go to the chip. Yo, you be home rooting for the

[E]

overtime. Yes.

[A]

What? Yo, I was so toxic sometimes I would have those on my fantasy team.

[D]

Yo, you are crazy, son.

[A]

Over and be. That's nice. Yeah, the chicks ain't just.

[B]

Just.

[A]

You're right. There's levels to this. Yo, that's crazy.

[E]

Per is crazy, yo.

[D]

Yo, that nigga's a starter.

[A]

Yeah, one of them. Showing the all star team. That's crazy. Yo, you'd be like, what the. How me and Joel Embiid got something. Got something like this nigga's shooting. All right. It man, it.

[F]

He got injured too much. That's not a great one.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

He get injured too much. That's not a great one. Word.

[A]

He home a lot? Yeah, well, yeah, it fizzled out. That's why. Oh, man. Oh, man, that's crazy.

[E]

Much, much more

[A]

M check. 1, 2, 1, 2, M shack. 1, 2, 1, too. So glad y' all could be here with us. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies out there. Turn my volume up in the headphones a little bit. Oh, remind me of the good old days. Yeah. Turn my volume up in the headphones. I'm about to get busy real quick. Yo, turn the lights down.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't play with me. Ish. Don't play with me.

[C]

Is.

[A]

Yeah. I was him.

[D]

You was.

[A]

I was him, man. I really was. Back in my day, I will not lie. We shout out to everybody traveling out there, everybody in the airport, everybody on vacation, all the kids home for spring break and all that. Everybody in the colleges out there. Hey, Shout out to all the parents out there listening. So glad you could join us. They're not there. Then you love me, hold me and

[B]

say

[A]

Whole Jersey, whole New York City, Florida, the Carolinas. What up out there? Whole dmv. What up out there? Hey,

[C]

That's where you're taking it.

[A]

I mean, I figured that's what we was doing today.

[F]

Go left.

[A]

I mean, it is still the weekend.

[D]

Hey, FDO FTL first day out I

[A]

just got out the bunk bed 3

[D]

million can't fit in my hand didn't see some on my head they come

[A]

from Be hard when they living this I ain't going to lie when you know they living this that got a different little H to it, ain't it? You crucify me for that same

[F]

bro

[D]

that really will do it.

[A]

Oh, yeah no, this the base is harder now everything.

[D]

To you till I get home Trust me, homie, I'm feeling patient I might do a demonstration off GP like 4 years I ain't sending hit in 3

[A]

the way go to your head Ain't

[D]

nobody slam as me I'm around the corner where they snake Mar L King

[A]

extra aggressive out of traffic Cuz Hank

[D]

ain't in the back seat car trailing Cuz Reckless ain't driving me I get mad when I look around and my members ain't what they supposed to be oh, what going on? I'm stuck in a cage it drove

[A]

me crazy all right, man, let's get right to it. Let's get right to it.

[D]

Unfortunately, I'm CEO and the top shooter for my game Told me keep my

[A]

grass low the whole time. I'm the snake. It was right there in front of you the whole time. Does hit a little different. It was there in front of you the whole time, man. Yeah. Maybe they on to something with this lyrics and court stuff. Oh, don't do that. Keep this applause going for the best crew in the world. Mike check. Mike check. Mike check. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. I got a hard out. I'm out of here.

[B]

What was that?

[A]

Figured I'd sit you next to me just to avoid any confusion out there, just in case, you know, I mean. I mean, get nice and comfy. Shout out to my good brother Flip in Trinidad, here with us in spirit. Shout out to our girl Mona, here with us in spirit. What episode is this?

[F]

917.

[A]

Welcome to episode 917 of the JOE Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, highly favored host, Joe Button, here with a few really amazing people. Before I begin, this episode is brought to you by Fueled by Power, by Prize Fish. Prize picks, gang.

[F]

Extra Europe today.

[A]

All right. To my.

[E]

I hate y', all, man. Y' all. Y' all be so successful on prize picks.

[F]

Hey, man, what happened?

[B]

What'd I miss?

[E]

I could just tell when they hitting prospects because they Europe be extra strong.

[A]

Yeah. Why the is park sitting here dressed like Razor Ramon prospects? What happened? What would I miss in here?

[F]

Nothing.

[E]

That. That dope ass change something like pause,

[C]

like he's shaking down, man.

[A]

Yeah. Nah, for real. You look like he got a cousin named Vinnie. Yeah, I like.

[C]

He look like he'd a plug an affiliate.

[A]

Why are you looking all good?

[C]

A friend of ours.

[F]

You trying to say I don't. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, nah, you looking like extra swagger. Chain out.

[B]

I know.

[F]

Hello.

[C]

Can I get a. Forget about it, Parks.

[A]

Yeah, Word.

[F]

That's appropriation. No, no, no, You. No, you may not.

[A]

All right, well, to my right, our good guy Queen's finest, our guy B Dot is here. Beat out. How you doing, man?

[C]

Man, feeling great. Hell of a week.

[A]

Hell of a week indeed. I seen you. I saw you hopping around. Yeah.

[F]

Stirring shit up.

[A]

Yeah. I saw you making your rounds. Yeah. And I saw you with your skin. Skin person skin.

[B]

My esthetician.

[A]

Your esthetician? Yeah. She can take care of that blackhead for you in the gooch. No, actually, me looking at your esthetician clip somehow got me in trouble.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Cause I guess one year in a relationship, like, I saw an esthetician in Brooklyn with a real fat ass and made an appointment, and she reminded me. Oh, man. She reminded Me? You tried to get that? She cursed me the fuck out. You tried to get some real sick off.

[B]

And I was like, wait, why you

[A]

can't get a facial for somebody with a fat ass?

[D]

All of nightlife chicks become estheticians and realtors and barbers.

[A]

Oh, we on today.

[B]

All right.

[E]

I really almost kept a straight face.

[D]

Oh, yo, that's crazy.

[C]

I understood that reference, yo.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Boy, I did.

[A]

Is that bad to try to get a facial from somebody in Brooklyn?

[E]

F. No, it's hard. It's bad to give a facial to a chick with a face.

[A]

She was like. It wasn't no footage of the facials. It was just ass.

[D]

Yeah. So you don't. You going. You ain't going off the results. You know, they do the before after mad acne now that your skin is clean.

[E]

You ain't seen none of that before.

[A]

And before, she's like, you ain't been to Brooklyn since you were 16, dog. You didn't even go to Brooklyn. Like, what are we talking about right now, anyway? I cancel

[C]

my esthetician. She's good peoples.

[A]

All right, well, I'm fine. All right? I'm fine. I'll just use whatever the. Noxima. Old school. Why ain't Noxima in no more? That feel good? That feel like Listerita Little Sea Breeze. Yeah.

[E]

That ain't work, man.

[A]

Nah, nah, don't do that.

[E]

I was using Neutrogena. N all that Neutrogena.

[A]

All of this work.

[E]

I look like a fucking Nestle Crunch bar before and after.

[A]

That's the guy. That's the old school men's facial.

[E]

I still got all that shit. I had everything.

[D]

I'm not opposed to that shit now. Lil Zima on a late night, Go

[A]

to sleep, wake up, face be all flaky feeling.

[D]

Nice gravy.

[A]

And if you was in the uppers. Noxzema. Oh, my God.

[B]

What?

[D]

What is wrong with you?

[A]

All right, forget it, dude.

[F]

At the same time, Noxzema on X. Crazy.

[A]

Go ahead. Just keep sniffing that Noxzema bullet. Anyway. Anyway, next to B Dot, our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

[E]

I'm great, man. Good to see everybody.

[A]

Good. Good to see you as well. Next to him. Come on, man. Oh, sad day. What happened? Damn you. Damn.

[F]

What happened?

[B]

What you did?

[D]

I don't know if this talking about, bro.

[A]

What's wrong with you? It's been announced recently.

[F]

What's been announced?

[A]

That Wawa in northern New Jersey will no longer be called Wawa anymore. Oh, shut dumb ass up.

[F]

They got bought out.

[A]

Ain't nobody listening to Joe with that look what they Google. Look what. Look what they research. And past that, they never believe anything I'd say. Why y' all just don't believe me?

[B]

Because you lie.

[A]

Yo, to just initiate a Wawa lie is wild.

[D]

You initiate ish lies all the time on Wawa.

[A]

What do I gain from that?

[E]

It's joke. Felt like the long, long game for ish.

[B]

Anyway.

[A]

Yeah, no, it's. It'll be called Wawa North.

[E]

So Wawa.

[B]

So. So Wawa.

[A]

Yeah, but wawa North. Anyway, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, that's Sergio.

[F]

It's tracksuit day. That's why I wore tracksuit.

[A]

Yeah, but that's.

[E]

That.

[A]

That's a blazer to hold up. Stop playing with my boy. That's the Sergio Blazer.

[F]

The tracksuit blazer.

[A]

That's the Sergio Tashini.

[D]

Come on.

[E]

I said that's the Ish. I really thought it said that. That I was trying.

[A]

Oh, wait. Does it say that's. That is. You know, it look like Sergio. I don't know Sergio.

[E]

It's Sergio.

[A]

I thought that boy is looking y. The Sergio blazer with the Tom Brown colors. He got the Sergio Tom Brown kit. Our good brother Ish is in the building, man. How you doing?

[D]

I'm good, Dog yourself.

[A]

I'm doing great. You're looking good again before your little DC trip. You looking good. He get whatever off on this white lady. He just walked out the house looking like. I can't walk in the house like that. My girl talking about Friday, too. A Friday I walk out the house like that.

[B]

Told me I'm going to work.

[A]

I got cheat written all over me. Put the cologne in the bag. Hey, hey, Shout out to the niggas. You just used to give away that you was leaving the house to cheat before you left. Your girl just watching you. You doing shit you ain't never done. You ironing extra draws.

[E]

Oh, iron is a tough damn.

[A]

Yo. Little bar so extra chipper.

[D]

Yo, you need something when I come.

[A]

Oh, my God. You good. You doing shit you ain't never did. Yo. Men are horrible. I hate men. I do any way. A good man. One of the few good men that's left out there. Our good brother Freeze is in the building. What up, Freeze? How you feeling, man? I'm great.

[B]

I'm great.

[A]

Good, good. Glad to hear that. And next to him. Oh, gosh. Oh, brother.

[C]

Chain hang.

[D]

What Jay Z was like, yo, out My jewelry.

[F]

Yo, what's up?

[A]

I guess Parks is here. I guess Parks is here, too. Potter of the month. Had ass, nigga. White Po is here. Corey is here. Still smiling from cheek to cheek in love.

[B]

You change the ring.

[E]

Change. That ringtone that kissed me through my phone was crazy.

[D]

Crazy, y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Yeah, that was crazy. That is hilarious. Ericson is here. Tanner, Savon are here by remote. Last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people are out there. All right, gentlemen, have at it. Wherever you want to go. I'm down to go.

[E]

Ain't but one place to start.

[A]

Starting with crime.

[F]

Same with crime.

[A]

Start with crime.

[F]

Right up your alley, reporting on crime.

[A]

I'm not the crime expert.

[F]

I feel like this is a ice.

[D]

You're the DOC guy.

[A]

This is ISO.

[D]

That's funny.

[A]

No, I mean, were you crying all day yesterday? That's the question for what? Were you sad? Good. Come on, man.

[C]

Context.

[E]

I want to point out that ICE broke this story before anybody else did.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

I don't break anything. No, no, no, no, no.

[E]

Early rat.

[A]

Y' all want to know what happened?

[D]

Y' all want see a dead body? Yo, this crazy.

[E]

Showing me the video and ankle monitor reports.

[A]

Oh, man, that's crazy. Oh, man.

[B]

But, yeah, was it? I believe it was yesterday. Pooh shicy, big 30. And I believe it was. Seven out of six others were all picked up in connection with the kidnapping and robbing of Gucci Mane.

[A]

Ooh. Can we read the names of the nine people? Because, boy, was I shooting stereotypes.

[E]

You couldn't even get a good game. Guess what race it is.

[A]

Yo, please.

[E]

Like Daquan Terry, Chicken. It was.

[A]

I said. Oh, God damn. I would have nabbed these niggas at birth. Just cause. Just. Tyrell, get your ass.

[E]

Get your ass on me. Jake, get on the ground.

[A]

No, the names was nuts.

[B]

I'm trying to unfind.

[A]

No, we gotta find the names. If there were ever a group of men to racially profile, it was these. A lot of syllables, man. That is hilarious. It's a mess.

[C]

Just like typos.

[B]

L' Ontrell Williams Sr. Which is Pooh Shicey's father. Kadarius Waters.

[A]

Look, he had an offspring. Look.

[B]

Terrence Rogers. Demarion Gibson.

[A]

You fuck Michigan. Hey, you fucked up when the lineage. Gotta get arrested, yo. Go ahead, Breeze.

[B]

All right. Demarion Gibson, right tackle. DeMarcus Glover,

[E]

defensive end. He killed the combine.

[A]

You guys all right?

[B]

Order, order, order. Come on.

[A]

This is a serious thing. He only pulled the mic close to him. To laugh. That's the funny part.

[B]

Cordae Johnson and Dario McDaniel.

[A]

Oh, Dario. Got it. Get Dario the out of here. Dario. You did it, buddy. Some of you just off your name should get to cooperate.

[D]

I see why they robbing.

[A]

They gonna give you. They gonna throw the library nine to five.

[D]

They get to that resume.

[A]

No resume. They throw in the library of you. I ain't gonna lie.

[D]

Oh, man.

[A]

Yo, what? And some of y'. All. Drew ain't taking. He ain't taking all y'. All. Oh, man. Yo, anyway. Come on. Let's be serious. Come on. Let's be serious. So, yeah, they did whatever the. They did that did everything. I felt safer.

[E]

I don't even believe in jail. And I went through n life.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Book.

[A]

Book a dead.

[E]

I got one exception.

[A]

Them niggas have your name got more than eight letter. You can come. We are horrible people. This is bad.

[B]

Yo.

[A]

You come like, how do I feel? Safer in Jersey. I'm in a whole other state. Another region.

[D]

So.

[B]

So allegedly.

[D]

Allegedly.

[E]

Allegedly.

[F]

Allegedly.

[B]

But okay, the details are. Cuz pushesi is currently on probation in. In Dallas and home confinement me. So there was a meeting to. To discuss him and Gucci's. You know, he signed to Gucci Man's 1017 records and apparently wanted to leave the label. There was a meeting set up in

[F]

a studio in Dallas.

[B]

In a studio in Dallas. And the meeting went arai.

[A]

You think all right.

[F]

Huh? No, I think it went as planned.

[D]

It was.

[A]

I mean, again, it's all alleged to a T. Oh, man. Well, you. Yeah.

[B]

And in that they were. Draco pulled out.

[A]

Is it all. Hey, they on the Internet solving mad crime. Oh, no.

[D]

On Internet testifying against themselves.

[E]

Yeah, I've never seen this level.

[D]

This level of stupidity is crazy, bro. It need to be documented. So supposedly a AR15. I mean, not an AR AK47 pistol.

[B]

No, Draco a pistol.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's a Draco.

[F]

Got it.

[B]

Oh, that's. That's what the Draco thank you for

[F]

the translation

[D]

was whipped out. They said they robbed Gucci and all of his associates made him get down.

[A]

See, I'm so not a street dude. I'm already lost Draco. In my day, we had a tech Glock Uzi.

[B]

Might have had that.38. Might have had that.38.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. You was fancy with a tack.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. If you had a tech or you was doing something.

[B]

Not today.

[A]

Not today.

[B]

They got loadouts from Call of Duty. The exact same Setup. These have different guns. Today, I told you, my man opened the trunk and I was like, all right, I'm going home. I don't even want to be near this.

[A]

You got to be audited or something. You got to be debriefed, something. They got to talk to you.

[B]

I ain't got to do with.

[A]

We got to make sure.

[B]

No, no, ain't nothing to make sure.

[A]

This is different. We don't got to make sure.

[F]

So apparently, Pooh wanted to get out

[E]

of his record deal.

[F]

Impetus for all of this.

[E]

Correct?

[B]

He wanted to get out of his deal. He presented, you know, sign this or else. Gucci didn't want to sign it. They whipped out, allegedly made him sign it, and robbed him, Took his barricades,

[D]

barricaded the door, and robbed all his crew.

[A]

One of his people choked out one of them, one of their mans. They got pictures of the bruises going on. It's a whole big mess. This is one of those stories that when it broke, it was so. I mean, the first time that it broke, it was so wild that you're like, I'm not paying this shit. I'm not paying this shit no more.

[F]

And then the people that were robbing posted the things that they robbed online.

[E]

You see on ig, them wearing the

[B]

bracelet, wearing a watch, wearing a chain.

[A]

That one I'll never understand. Yeah, I don't get it.

[D]

We glorify the dumbest shit in the world, and so the kids are listening to you glorify stupid shit, and they trying to emulate it, not knowing that it's nothing but a one way ticket. Like, no transfer, do not pass go. You just going.

[C]

Clout is a dangerous thing, man. Everybody wants it. It's addicting. And they think that showing these things is going to boost their social profile. I got this person. I got this from that. It doesn't work out.

[A]

Also, this was the worst kept secret, fam.

[B]

The minute this happened, I knew about that immediately.

[A]

I didn't know who knew.

[E]

I found out from ICE.

[A]

Me too. Everything I know about this

[E]

ICE was

[D]

on a text thread. Yo, 395.

[A]

We got them.

[B]

We got them. Pussies.

[A]

It really was Ice.

[D]

That shit is crazy. I just think it's horrible, dog. Like one, even if you made them sign it and you didn't rob anybody, it's still not gonna work. Because all he gonna say is, y', all, I signed it under duress, which is gonna nullify the contract immediately.

[E]

They watch too many movies.

[D]

Yeah, like the Godfather.

[E]

Yo, yo, this was Suge. Did Yeah, like

[C]

tactics don't work in 20, 26. That 90s 80s shaking somebody down. Nah, the first thing I thought of was like, how bad was this contract for them to drive six hours from Memphis to Dallas to do this to Gucci Mane? His people, like, what kind of deal was he in? Like at a 720.

[E]

Well, now he in a 25 to 50.

[A]

Yeah, word. Yeah, 24, seven.

[E]

Right.

[F]

Is we doing this to get out of a record deal?

[D]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[F]

They now being under way worse circumstances.

[A]

Allegedly, he's cooked the Internet. Rumors are saying that in the process, Gucci said, yo, you know, this is not how this goes.

[B]

You still got to go to Lord.

[A]

Got to go to Lord Warriors. And then they was like, shut your ass up before we kill your ass right now. Or something like that.

[E]

Yeah. I don't understand.

[A]

Seeing at that point, I think we just talking to killers. And that's why some of this I' ma just adhere to.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we ain't talking about rappers.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

We not talking about. Yeah, we talking about stone cold irrational. Yeah. So it don't have to make sense.

[C]

But worst case scenario, let's say they do what they need to do to Gucci Mane. Right. You think they're gonna get away with it? There's surveillance, there's no, I don't.

[B]

Niggas don't think that far. That's the problem.

[E]

I think this is what they thought. Just trying to get in their brain. I've been thinking about this a lot.

[A]

Mark will tell us.

[B]

I have an idea what they thought.

[E]

They thought that as long as Gucci didn't tell the police, that they'd be fine. They're banking on a no snitching culture that said, yeah, we did this in broad daylight. And if he tell and give up the tapes, we cook.

[D]

But he knows who he is.

[E]

That's what they were banking on. I'm telling you.

[D]

Look, if you bank in there, cool. Put that money in Wells Fargo. Now your dumb ass homeboys go to chase and start stolen all the shit that they stole from the niggas and admitting the robberies from the niggas.

[E]

Right. And not to mention, and I don't know if this is true, but some of Gucci's team, I think, were off duty cops, right?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah, that's what was reported. I know Wack reported the other people reported that. I don't know that for as a fact.

[B]

That's the thing. You don't know who else is here.

[E]

Even duty cops are selling yeah, they are. No.

[D]

And you bring the off duty cops just in case a nigga gotta get smoked, right? They have a legal.

[B]

I'm going out of town, right?

[E]

Yes. I don't know.

[D]

These are my security. They off duty cops. They. They have a oath to uphold the law so they can uphold the law even in another state. Like, yo, dawg, what are we talking about?

[B]

And allegedly there were other executive with Gucci because again, this is a label meeting, right? You can't come here. You can't come here to have the meeting, so we're bringing the meeting to you.

[D]

You gotcha.

[B]

So ain't no telling who else they telling.

[A]

See, that's my first time hearing that.

[D]

Again, I didn't know that part neither.

[A]

I never heard that part yet.

[C]

Yeah, he has information.

[D]

But, bro, you think the executive VP of blah blah blah Records is not going. He adhering to the no snitch policy?

[B]

You see, that's why they do it

[C]

to like the rappers. They ain't doing that to Craig Calman or Elliot Grange. You think Gucci man is going to get you out there to go to those guys to do it?

[B]

My thing is, when I read in the report where it said Gucci and other people identified, I'm like, good, Gucci's an executive. That is true.

[F]

True.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? That is true. Like, I've seen the Internet with they whole, oh, yo, y' all better treat him the same way. Gucci just. I feel like, yo, fam, if one this man is. He did exactly what he was supposed to do. The goal is to get home to your family. Family. So, yeah, y' all got the drop on me. I give all this up sign things. Yep. Them little that did it. I wasn't hearing no street. I'm not in no street. I am not in the streets.

[C]

But Gucci didn't say it was so and so. He just said it was somebody in.

[A]

In black, right?

[B]

Well, from what the paperwork says, says they listed three names and they said helped identify. Interpret that however you want. I don't care if he went there and said him, him and him. I am executive old man, not old man. But I'm not in the streets.

[A]

I'm old enough to be having significant health issues that me and my wife have been public about on interviews.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. If you're going by street rules, you shouldn't be talking to the police at all. I don't care if you said it was three people and they were seven foot tall Asians. Right. Even if you get mad at me, don't talk to them. Right? However, I don't think he. They weren't selling drugs together. They weren't doing crimes together. I don't think he owes them that. I'm not out here advocating street code, but I'm just saying, if that's your logic, he wasn't in the streets, it wouldn't apply here. You know what I mean? Only just one woman. It just. It frustrates me so much because, again, I support not snitching. I'm a don't snitch person, right? But it's sick to me that in a moment where somebody just got their office raided, got a gun put to their neck, all they should take is

[A]

the bonuses on them that people are

[E]

out there saying he told. Like, what? That's.

[D]

Nah.

[E]

But there should be no outrage about that, right?

[D]

It's not that. Because you don't necessarily have to do a crime with somebody to be considered a snitch. If you are adhering to street rules. And I'm not saying. I'm advocating. I'm not saying Gucci did it incorrectly. When you advocating for street rules, if somebody do something to you on the street, you handle it in the street.

[E]

True.

[D]

Right. So again, you could still snitch on a motherfucker that did something. Something to you, even if y' all didn't commit a crime together. If the nigga robbed you in the street, he shot you in the street, he did whatever in the street. If you are in the street playing street games and street life, then you deal with that in the street. You don't go to the law.

[A]

That's fair.

[D]

So that's what people say.

[E]

No, you're 100% right. And I'm saying I don't know Gucci to still be in the street.

[D]

I don't think so either. Again, I'm not saying he handled it wrong.

[E]

I'm just giving clarification.

[A]

No, that's a great point.

[E]

You're 100% right.

[B]

So what people are pointing to is a video. I believe it was from 2021 or something, around that time frame where Gucci was taunting someone on the Internet and he's like, yo, my only request, don't involve no police. We gonna deal with it. Y' all know how I play. So that's what people are speaking to. If you're gonna say this and now appear in paperwork saying you helped identify that, there is some level of a contradiction there.

[E]

Maybe. So it could be five years later, he's in a Different space.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

Or it could be that situation was some hardcore street shit that he was involved in.

[B]

Oh, I am handling it down.

[E]

Operating at this level down here. So that's where we gonna stay. But this was an executive meeting.

[B]

This was business.

[E]

Yeah. Cause, but. Cause, like, at some point, if I'm a drug dealer and my accountant robs me, am I not supposed to. Like, I gotta shoot him too. I can't even get.

[A]

I can't call him.

[E]

You know what I mean? I can't get him investigated. Like, at some point, can I do some shit above board? I don't know.

[B]

Hey, listen, any. If you subscribing to Street Rules at this point, stay away from me.

[E]

I hear that.

[B]

If you playing the Street Rules game, just stay over there.

[E]

Please can.

[A]

I ain't gotta tell them. I ain't gotta tell them. I'm home. With a micro.

[D]

With a.

[E]

What's the shit?

[A]

The microscope, all of that shit. To see who playing by the Street Rules.

[B]

I ain't gotta tell them. I ain't gotta tell them.

[A]

Stay away from me.

[D]

Stay away from them.

[A]

This is one of my worst nightmares. Tough niggas. That's not bright.

[F]

That is a bad recipe.

[A]

That's one of my worst nightmares in the world. Somebody that will risk it all over absolutely nothing, and you're an accomplice. I've been on this with Pooh Shiesty for years.

[D]

You're an accomplice.

[A]

I've said this for years with him. That's just off the home, looking from a distance. The nigga went to buy some sneakers, stole the sneakers, shot the nigga. Bow already. You lost me, dog. Your music is great. Your decision making terrifies me. Yeah, you go to the strip club, money falling out your pocket, somebody pick it up. Oh, you think they robbed you or they took it out your back pocket. You pull a gun out, Bow in the strip club.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

Jesus.

[A]

You don't make the best decisions to me and you let it go. You let that thing go. Pow, pow, pow, pow. I know in the streets that's looked

[B]

at as like some super tough.

[A]

I don't quite view it that way.

[B]

Cause you're not in the streets. That's it.

[A]

Yeah. I don't quite view it that way.

[E]

He went to the office with an ankle monitor on the Legend.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

He left a hell of a paper trip on Brand. Talk about decision making on Brand.

[D]

Going to say I wasn't there.

[B]

You turned on Spruce.

[D]

You have. What are you talking about, fam?

[B]

Speak to his decision making. They got a video he was on a live stream with. With Ben the Don.

[C]

The streamer.

[B]

Yes, a streamer in the. Sitting in the back of a Maybach. You know, just the two of them. A cameraman up here recording them PO Calls. He takes the call. No, no, no, no. I'm at home.

[A]

We looking at him.

[B]

Live stream.

[E]

I said, we see you.

[B]

As Cat Williams said, do you know we can see you right? So Ben peeps what's going on, tells the cameraman, yo, get the camera off of him. So it pans this way.

[E]

1.

[B]

You can hear him talking like this. This is who you're dealing with, dog.

[D]

We laughing.

[B]

I'm not laughing.

[A]

I'm just speaking. Not.

[D]

Yeah, no, I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, is not funny.

[A]

All the streaming act like they just figured out how the stream works yesterday. Like they do.

[D]

No, Joe, you're not thinking that this nigga's gonna pick up the phone to his PO in the middle of the live stream and say, I'm not home. No, I'm at home, Ms. Johnson.

[A]

It's the way that my brain work. No, I'm not picking this motherfucker up to be in my car or on a camera.

[D]

But these niggas are streamers, and they getting money from it.

[C]

I think people thought that Pooh Shiesty turned over a new leaf. He's only been home for six months. He put out a really good record.

[A]

That's the other part. You came home. Well, you was locked up, came out early. You put something out, it immediately hits the charts. Clearly, people are anticipating music from you, waiting to hear more from you. You blessed enough to even be in the spot to where you could disappear for three and four years and come back and almost be even bigger than you were. And this is the list of. This is the list of things that you do. And if we haven't said anything that's crazy enough already, we can add in. Oh, you did this with your dad.

[D]

With your father. And that's what I was about to say. People, places and things.

[B]

No, no. Like, you listen to his music. He tell you, I got the game in the streets from my dad.

[D]

His father. Like they said.

[E]

His father. Oh, he wanted them, but, like, you

[D]

gotta listen one of them with your successful son. And I'm not.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

I'm not speaking to that. Because his name is. His nickname is Mob Boss. Mob Boss and Pooh Shisty. So, yeah, clearly, people that'll kill me in arc. What I'm saying is being in the game with your son, sometimes I get scared Taking a private jet with my family because it's one shot.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

Kobe said that Kobe and his wife had a rule where if she was in a helicopter, he couldn't be in a helicopter and vice versa, because your. Your kids can't afford to lose both of their parents.

[A]

I look at the game. I look at the game the exact same way is what I'm saying. So I'm not saying that he ain't that, but all right, now we that together.

[D]

No, my thing is, even if you're. And again, I'm not disrespecting nobody. Parents and style, whatever the case may be, if you've been that dude right, as a father and your son just went to jail, to your points, Mm. He came home. Your son has the ability to get us out of hell. I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure my son stays on the straight and narrow because he has the ability to change all of our lives.

[B]

You speaking to music, and through music,

[D]

you have the ability to make me not be mob boss no more.

[A]

You would think that at the very

[F]

least, maybe Pooh stays home.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

And the father goes, yes.

[E]

Let the cash cow stay home.

[D]

Yes. Yes.

[E]

You make all the money.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

And you got an angle monitor on. Just stay home again.

[B]

Allegedly, this started off as that type of a meeting. It didn't go the way. Just in case, like, yo, we talking about this. Yo, yo, yo, dog. What you mean you're not letting me out or gave me some astronomical number, something. We don't know what happened in that conversation.

[A]

We know we don't.

[B]

But now it went left, and now it's all right. Well, this is plan B, I think it was.

[A]

No, we watch. We watch enough tv and wild, wild westerns and all of that power. All of that. I just don't want to be at

[D]

the meeting where got guns.

[A]

Everyone is hit. No, I'm cool with some guns.

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

I'm cool.

[D]

No, I don't want to be at the meeting. At 50 years old, when the niggas got guns that I know will let them go. I don't want to be at that type of business meeting.

[C]

But Gucci ain't know he's gonna bring the troops.

[A]

You can't. This should be a limit on guns. Everybody here can have caliber, couple dimes, maybe.

[D]

I don't see Draco's in the room. Yo, I don't want to be. I don't want to be at those meetings. I don't. I don't want to be at the meeting where anybody that's not a police officer or security has a gun on them. When little Kit Kat got a gun on him. I'm scared.

[B]

That's the problem.

[A]

I don't want to be.

[F]

I don't even want to be in a meeting with his police officers, quite frankly.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Yeah. But it's a lot of them niggas.

[D]

And the demographic is the demographic hip hop.

[A]

And we all. We all intermingle in hip hop. When I was running around, I would go to meetings where. Where it would be at a diner off a highway with. And you'd have to pat you. They was patting down. They just let. And then. Then hug and catch up family. But no, was patting down even that type of. Though.

[B]

And. And everybody ain't going inside.

[D]

To me talking about 20 something years ago. 1. No disrespect to none of the people involved. I don't know who were there. But now we playing at a different level of money. We playing at a different level of access and a different level of possibility. Hip hop is in a different place today.

[F]

Different level of surveillance, too.

[D]

And I didn't even think about that. Hip hop is at a different place today. Niggas is out here making $100 million. There were very few people when Pump it up came out that were making $100 million. So I had to even the possibility.

[A]

That's the detail that I think is missing from all of this. We'll just never know it.

[D]

But the money, P. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It's the money piece. Money ticket.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

To your point, we can't just.

[B]

We.

[A]

I'm sitting here saying that Pooh Shiesty ain't the brightest. Granted. I also think that there was something else in play to make that plan come together.

[B]

Yo, I'm telling you, like you said, he come out, he puts the first day out, record out, and it shoots

[C]

up the charts, which ironically, Gucci Mane created. The first day out.

[B]

Right?

[A]

That's right.

[B]

We put that up. Shoots up the charts. Now, naturally, it's okay. What we doing next? Well, wait a minute. This record did how much I made? Yo, go look at my contract.

[D]

Wait, what?

[A]

It's in crayon.

[B]

Wait, wait. Excuse me.

[A]

He signed it too.

[B]

Oh, no, we gotta fix this.

[A]

It ain't taking much.

[B]

We getting out of here.

[D]

We getting out of here or no. You might have been sitting in jail like, oh, no, I made this, this, and this. Go get the money from over there.

[B]

And you.

[D]

Your peoples might go over there and they like, what? Money ain't no Money.

[B]

No, I'm just saying I don't think you release nothing though. Because now. Because first day out came out on 10 17. So I don't think if you already at that point, I'm not even releasing nothing.

[A]

You don't think.

[C]

This is not the first conversation, Gucci.

[D]

Yeah, this. You don't have a choice. You want to put your first day out when you come home, it can't come out unless it's on 10 17, right. You don't have a choice of how.

[B]

And also to your point, because remember when it dropped, I was like, I don't like it being called First Day out because it took so long. It could have been that. It could have been. It could have been that right there like yo, we working something out here or I'm not happy on the terms. All right, well I ain't got no choice. I gotta get this out.

[F]

I mean it also could just be like there's no money in streaming. Like they might just see like this streamed a bazillion quazillion times. That shit ain't worth very much whatever it does generate.

[C]

Gucci, still getting all of that?

[F]

Maybe, maybe could be.

[D]

I don't know the inner workings of they shit. I just know that to everybody listening, this is not the way you solve problems or.

[A]

Or reach a resolve a resolution.

[D]

This is again you got a one way ticket now. Now you just don't want to be.

[C]

Joe, you've been had label drama back in the day. How would you have resolved it?

[D]

He was a sucker.

[B]

He wasn't going there.

[D]

No guns took the deal.

[E]

He got a 720 right now in Def Jam.

[B]

Yes sir.

[E]

Yes sir.

[A]

Boss.

[E]

He still signed a Def Jam. Oh that's why he put out no

[A]

more music before I quit.

[D]

Right, right.

[A]

Sitting here party. Yeah, I was a sucker. I was doing. But I'm the old school attachment attorneys. No, stupid me ask me, I had

[D]

an attorney read my.

[A]

But I mean that era right before me was the wild out era.

[F]

Yeah, the 90s. There was a lot of this but

[A]

I got signed in 01. My album was 03. But that right, that 90s one, that late 90s with all that money into the 2008, niggas was getting punched in the face. You said the stories offices was getting ran baseball bats. Niggas had weapons bats. Artists could roam freely. Wasn't no security gonna do nothing nowhere. It wasn't no security nowhere. You just run in whatever office you got a problem in smacking. That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Yes, it was like that. The journalism side too. I mean, you wasn't getting. You got smacked.

[C]

Not this journalist.

[E]

Oh, yeah, well, like people were like Mecca was talking about a lot, but people were running up in source offices like that all the time.

[C]

Yeah, I heard about that.

[E]

Yeah. Like that was the time, like you had an issue, you handled it on the street. But it's not that time no more. The field has moved, the industry has changed and there's a lot more surveillance cameras. You just can't do shit that you

[A]

used to do, even if it's.

[F]

That's the big part.

[A]

The surveillance part is what it is.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I was listening to some detective on some show I'm watching. He was like, yo, you would just be surprised how many criminals just have their phone on them or think that turning the phone off if you're going to commit a crime. The first thing is maybe 3% of criminals leave the phone somewhere where they're

[B]

doing what they triangulate.

[F]

There's also cameras everywhere. Everyone has cameras.

[D]

ATM A.

[A]

Yeah. Your car is a camera. Camera. That's hard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You driving guns across six, six, seven states there, you know, I don't know how many states. How far is it? Six hours. Six hours drive. Yeah, no, that's too far enough.

[C]

And it's like I said, it's a paper trail too with the car rentals, tolls.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

The other. When they got Kwondo Rondo's cousin or whatever in la, them, they had a truck. They, they had a hike. They was in that car with Red Bulls trying to get them guns in Los Angeles. They had five hour energy drinks in there. Some crimes I ain't just. That's why I'm here.

[D]

Too exhausting.

[A]

You need a CDL to go. Go kill these, man. No, no, I'm not doing it. Sorry. It's exhausting. Hell yeah. We going to kill some easy pass going off every. Every joint. Like, what are we doing?

[E]

Yes.

[A]

We ain't think it out. How many times I got caught cheating because of some shit that I lay down right there in front of somebody. I'm negligent. I. I'm gonna be done. Forgot. I'm gonna fuck the plans of the crime up.

[B]

And to the niggas that wore the shit on Instagram. Cause a lot of people think, oh, my page.

[A]

Private.

[B]

Nobody can see it.

[C]

Oh, idiot.

[A]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[B]

That's a big one. A lot of times, a lot of.

[A]

I got the announcement, I got the announcement for Instagram. Plus I'm gonna put it on close friends, nobody would know.

[B]

That's the other one.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

They'll subpoena your ass fast.

[E]

If someone got close friends is taking pictures of the. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a mess. Y' all stop it. Whatever y' all doing for clout on the Internet, whoever's listening, whoever this applies to, stop doing dumb on the Internet for clout. It. It will ruin your life.

[A]

Y' all ever send a message with the invisible ink?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Who?

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Invisible.

[A]

Nothing is this time. And I believe you. I don't even think. Yeah, he dead ass. Forget it. Don't worry about it.

[E]

Yeah, I do that.

[B]

I don't.

[F]

I don't. But I have. It's easy to, like, accidentally cut it on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's how I found out about. What the is this?

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't do it for nothing. It's usually like. If I'm like. It's usually me and my homie, we send something that you don't want. If. Like, if your wife's sitting next to you, I don't want her to read like, it's nothing for no crimes or nothing. Like crazy. That's the only time if you're doing it that actually covers up something real. It's a bad joint.

[C]

None of this shit really goes away.

[A]

It's nothing.

[E]

Right?

[F]

That part, yeah.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

And at the end of the day, I think I read the report that they're facing up to life. So if they get convicted, the judge could give them a stupid football number.

[E]

They're gonna get one. They tell you right now it's gonna be.

[A]

I don't know. They might. Listen, I've seen Wilder. They've let Wilder loose. Question a bunch of killers I know came right home.

[B]

This Texas.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No gun, no cameras, no witness.

[B]

And you already just getting off of a gunshot. It don't look good.

[A]

Sometimes the came home that you just knew they had. Man, God damn.

[B]

No, I can't go back outside.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

Damn. This got nice.

[D]

I used to go to the Dairy Queen at will. Now,

[E]

Does anybody know why this is a fair case and not a state case?

[D]

I think maybe possibly.

[E]

Is it because I read. Because I tried to find out this morning. I couldn't get the info.

[D]

And you know, the feds just pick up cases that they want to pick up because you don't even have to cross state lines. And the feds could go pick the.

[F]

I'm sure there was a lot of money. Between the jewelry and the contract. There's probably a very high Number involved.

[A]

This was rock. Papers it. What the. Hey, we got a juicy one.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah, this is the good old odds and evens.

[E]

And the feds have lost a couple high profile rap case.

[A]

They have.

[E]

The feds got their ass.

[A]

They itching for one.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. They might just be. Really need a victory for one.

[C]

That DA looks happy to make that announcement.

[D]

They itching for one. Yeah, you're right. We gonna get you.

[A]

Yeah, cuz, he it up. He said that the robbery happened this week. Like he was nervous.

[C]

Nervous?

[A]

Yeah, he was like, eight days ago, these guys committed. No, no, no, buddy.

[F]

This is January.

[A]

This is old school. It's old school, but I get. I would be nervous, too. You up there reporting on some stone cold killers. Rappers listen, man. Killers do deserve a certain level of respect, for sure. You don't say they psycho and crazy.

[D]

They get it.

[A]

They get it. But.

[D]

But yo, bro, he walking the spot.

[A]

Yo, do you do that?

[D]

They be like, yo, don't fuck with such and such. He crazy. He ain't that crazy. He know who to be crazy with. When a killer. John Gotti said, yo, everybody a gangster. Till real gangsters walk in the room and you bow the down and show the maximum level of respect.

[B]

When Omar start walking down the street whistling, niggas got n Got the fuck out.

[A]

I don't care who it was.

[B]

I don't give a fuck who you are.

[A]

I watch that, all right? I watched that. None of this is funny. I watched the video of. I don't know his name, but they said, Fetty Waps, man, that was standing outside when the. When the truck pulled up, pulled up

[D]

and that when them jumped out that truck, it looked like roaches with the light cut on them all but once. It wasn't funny, but.

[A]

Except for. Except for dude that just so happened to be on the phone that the

[B]

car pulled up on the other side.

[A]

Just standing there, the guy that didn't look surprised that none of this was happening. It did look a little. It looked a little. He'd have been the first. You know, some people confused after they get robbed. Nah, nah, let me see your phone.

[B]

Get over here.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't see that. Yo, after you get robbed, you got to look like you have somewhere to go. Go. You can't just stand there, stand there looking. Be willing. F was just like, yeah, no, you better act like you know where a gun is. A family meant something. Get out of there. He took anyway.

[B]

He might have took his car keys.

[A]

That whole block sc they got, bro, them took.

[B]

Watch the video again, though.

[D]

I see the one dude, though. I'mma watch it again.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they right there. He ain't hiding.

[D]

They got. They got all.

[B]

That's old school as soon as them doors opened up.

[A]

See, that's the other part about being in your 40s. Yo, your 40s is cool. I imagine if you would live to your 50s, that that got to be fly too. Your 40s is like. Yeah, like, I'm not mad that all this we talking about scares the absolute fuck out of me.

[D]

And let me tell you, no lie, this is funny. It's ironic. My man in the feds right now, now, but my man used to say all the time, bro, I'm not standing on nobody else's corners. And now that just resonates so effortless. I'm not standing on nobody corner, bro.

[A]

Yeah, all that old school. Ain't nothing outside after midnight but some trouble.

[B]

We moved the clock a little earlier, too.

[A]

Yeah, word up.

[D]

Like, I'm good, bro. Like, yo, I'm not standing on nobody's corner standing outside like, yo, in the

[A]

90s, I'll tell you one day, Gucci better than me, them would have been out that contract on my ring footage. Hey, y' a been on. Y working, y'. All. Yeah, y' all can stay right there. No, no, no need to come in.

[D]

No need to.

[A]

Two weeks, it's done. Check your email. Check your email. Yeah. Refresh, word, E signature, all that. Docusign, docu sign, Adobe, pull up all the shits. I'm signing that. That's your rights is yours, dog.

[B]

You earned it.

[A]

You did that and I'mma buy the album. I ain't going to hold you if you going to let me be alive. Yo, you got my support. Oh, man, you got my support.

[D]

Yo, that's the scary part. It could have went way, way, way different. Like, they could have bodied everybody in that room, bro. And when you got. When you talking to a. That really let it go.

[A]

He shot a couple already and he ain't working. He's just. He just the. That let it go. Got leisure time. Bored. Just bored.

[B]

Ducking cold now.

[A]

Yeah, he could go stalk your whole family Googling where your grandma live, eat. And resourceful too, a little bit.

[D]

All these young man say whatever the you want.

[B]

You got it, big dog.

[E]

You think all. Every person there knew the plan. Like, is there one dude in there that just really thought he was going to the meeting?

[D]

Yeah. And now you're an accomplice. And now you're gonna get 20 because now you.

[E]

Oh, you got a whole lot of telling. Or they gonna do a whole lot of telling.

[C]

There's eight guys just for. For.

[E]

For rec.

[C]

They was all in on it.

[A]

Yeah, that's not true.

[B]

That's not true.

[D]

Cause you could say, yo, dog, I need you to call me just in case. This go left. We gonna these niggas up, Michael, just in case. Might think that they.

[E]

I'm saying one of the boys without the Draco. I'm saying you might have been there thinking you just dare to shoot the pharaoh.

[D]

Throw some hands.

[A]

All of that.

[C]

Yes, we gonna jump Gucci.

[A]

Man, you criminals better learn the fucking law. All right, so you're down.

[E]

Yeah, I'm just saying somebody might be telling. That's all I'm getting at. If I was the dude that was there, thinking I'm just gonna. I'm part of a little bit of shenanigans. I ain't realized it was like this level, like, federal case.

[B]

I'm with.

[D]

Fuck a nigga up, not lay a nigga down.

[E]

Yeah, exactly. Somebody might have had that mindset.

[B]

Unfortunately, that same person don't know what conspiracy and how it works.

[D]

You are an accomplice.

[B]

You catch whatever happens.

[D]

After that, you are going night night.

[E]

And the hard part is you don't. There's not a whole lot of telling to be done. They got too much footage, too much evidence. They don't need no help. So you. Even if you willing to tell, right? They got everything. Even if you willing to tell.

[C]

Funny shit.

[A]

It's a fucking. They was in. It's a booth right there. It's a board. Like, if you two niggas just take 30 minutes to get to work, you could generate a few. A few millions of dollars if you just put the beef to the side of the second.

[D]

You got a pen?

[A]

It's a pen. Load that beat up.

[F]

Parks.

[C]

Parks.

[D]

Load that beat up. Let's get to writing.

[A]

Yeah, do old school Cassidy versus what a Barry. Whatever his name was. Come on. Good.

[B]

Tell both y' all sides of the

[A]

story on a beat. Crazy. Whoever Cassidy did, cast me first. Barry.

[B]

Barry Adrian. Bars.

[A]

I ran to that, too. I was hype. Yeah, I know.

[B]

It was a problem. Versus the hustler.

[A]

Yeah, it doesn't look the greatest in hindsight, but I still think he killed that drug. Y' all might not be familiar. Y' all don't care about Cassidy. No, I'm one of the last left that care about Cassidy. That is a fact. Outside of battle rap, they don't care

[D]

about seven, eight years.

[A]

On whose ass?

[F]

Yours.

[A]

On my ass doing what?

[B]

Cassidy called Joe out. I missed it.

[D]

That used to be the thing.

[B]

Yo, Cassidy and Joe Joe, you ain't never shoot nothing.

[C]

In his way.

[D]

You shot a lot of way. You ain't shoot his way.

[A]

You're not talking to me right?

[B]

That gun ain't work.

[A]

Oh, no, he's just mistaken.

[B]

It's cool.

[A]

Well documented, though. Well well documented. When I was on Cassidy ass because I ain't like something he did to stack bundles. And that was just me. He ain't really do nothing. But when they was rapping and stack wasn't prepared. One Monday, Cassidy just kept going crazy. I called up there. Oh, stop. That felt like Apollo. I felt like watching Apollo. I could hear my guy wasn't prepared. I ain't like that. I was on Cassidy ass for the next however many years, talking as much as I could possibly talk. And that's when he went public and was like, yeah, yo, niggas gotta have

[B]

100,000, 200,000 astronomical to battle.

[A]

To battle me. If you ain't got 200. And he know I ain't have $200,000.

[B]

That's how you do it.

[A]

That is ended that. But that also means that you scary to me. It's just an effective way to be scary.

[B]

Or this ain't worth it.

[E]

Yeah, you wasn't worth it.

[B]

Yeah, I gotta be worth my time.

[D]

R. Kelly got this joint over there.

[B]

I come down over there to you and make it worth something. I ain't doing it for the front, right.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't mad at. And that's my man now. That's my man now. Shout out to Cassidy. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize pick.

[E]

What?

[A]

No. What you smiling at? Why you smiling at me like that?

[D]

Like the twink on your eye.

[C]

My face.

[A]

You being gay. Which is my favorite thing to be. If you want to. If you want to play around. Your ass is laser. Seems like a match. Oh, damn.

[F]

What?

[A]

And you got your little pretty white outfit dirty already. We too old to wear white? No.

[D]

Yeah, that.

[C]

You wear white at 40.

[A]

You wear white at 40.

[D]

My car a bit little.

[A]

Can you wear white at 40? Yeah. What the you think 40 is? How old are you? Are you even young enough to say that?

[C]

I'm 41.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you could wear white at 40.

[B]

What color you think they'd be wearing on them old?

[C]

Yeah, the Tom Jordan.

[A]

Yeah. It's ready for an all white party right now. Stop playing with my Boy, my boy, All White Party hall of Fame. That's all them niggas. Do y' all stop wearing white after Labor Day?

[E]

Yeah. Yeah. Nah.

[A]

Come on. Come on. It's not.

[B]

It's not calculus.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I said, yeah.

[C]

You do Stop.

[A]

No, it stops. Mark stops. B dot. Nah.

[B]

I just realized I don't.

[A]

You don't stop.

[F]

No.

[E]

I don't wear a lot of white.

[D]

You wear winter white, bro. What the winter.

[E]

I would do a winter white under the right circumstance. I don't, though. I don't think I ever did that.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't just taking. Even if I stop, it ain't gonna be for long. Maybe three weeks. You get out of me. If I see some winter white fire shit, I'm wearing that.

[D]

It's called winter white for a reason, though.

[A]

So you agree with us?

[C]

No.

[D]

I said no. I said I won't wear white. White is white. Winter white is a whole different color that was made for that reason.

[E]

Wait, winter white is a different color? Yes. What color is winter white? I really. Is it like cream?

[D]

Yeah, it's like cream.

[C]

Like a beige. Like eggshell?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So you can wear eggshell.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So you talking about a hard, hard white?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Not that hard white.

[A]

Yeah, Okay. I understand. Ish. Now, you was losing me like that seven being mid thing guy. You. You the old. What am I doing now?

[B]

Surprise fix.

[D]

I'm old.

[A]

I don't even have it up. Oh, and the Zep is making my vision blurry. I can't see anything.

[D]

At least you'll be skinny.

[A]

I ain't gonna stop taking it. I've seen enough on this earth. I don't need to see what else I need to see. I'm cool.

[B]

What are you.

[A]

I'm cool on seeing.

[C]

Stop playing cool.

[B]

Speak that out if you want.

[C]

Shout out to the blind listeners.

[A]

What? Yeah, shout out to them. That is the funny thing about dtf. And I'm not addressing it because no more show reviews for me, but I do think it's ill how homeboy is such a great guy and getting all the pussy and dick in the world just from knowing sign language. Hey, man, that's really it.

[C]

I started watching the show. Just started watching.

[F]

Good show.

[C]

It's kind of weird.

[A]

It is weird.

[B]

What episode you want?

[A]

It is weird.

[C]

Episode two.

[F]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's weird.

[A]

Oh, it gets weird.

[F]

It gets weirder, but also better.

[A]

It gets weird a lot better.

[C]

What the joke.

[A]

I'll be watching. Yo. It's a good. It's a good show. Just on Some cuck. They awesome. They on some weird. That's exactly what would happen to me if I was a cuck. One of the people would die.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Y' all snickering at that. Y. Y' all was crazy. You think I'm. You think I'm a cuck?

[B]

I do.

[A]

You do think I'm a cuck? Yes. Oh, wait, wait. You think I'm a cuck, too?

[E]

We. We.

[A]

Mark, you think I'm a cuck?

[E]

Absolutely.

[D]

Part.

[F]

I would. I don't know what he does in

[E]

his bed, but if you had to

[F]

guess, I mean, there's signs.

[A]

I'm a cock. That's a sign. Well, for the record, because I didn't know so many people thought that. I'm not a cuck.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[B]

No, that cleared it up.

[A]

Glad you cleared it up. Jesus. All right, now I'm finding his prize. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. I'm not emotionally stable enough to be a cuck. And I guess that's back to my original point. Who said, like, somebody would die in the cuck ship?

[B]

I disagree. Yeah.

[A]

I think hands and feet got to be put on somebody in the cuckoo.

[D]

I think it depends on

[F]

if you got.

[D]

If you're controlling the situation. A lot of that shit be about

[F]

control or if your shit don't work like homeboy.

[D]

Or you got the deep curve.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you take medication for the curve. That show is really. No shit, bro. It's a odd show.

[D]

This is weird.

[B]

This last episode was real odd.

[A]

Oh, I'm caught up now.

[B]

I watch half of it.

[A]

It's one of them shows where we. Five episodes in, and I still have no idea who did what.

[D]

Yo, and that's the.

[B]

I love.

[D]

That's the crate. That's the. That's what makes the show dope. Like his and hers. Wasn't that the name of the. That we just watched? Maybe with the black girl? The pretty black girl. What's her name? The cute one.

[C]

Yo, Tess.

[A]

I don't know what.

[D]

Yeah, Tess or something.

[B]

I don't think I saw that.

[D]

Yes, you did. We came in here and talked about it. Where the mom killed the people, and you didn't know until the very last that was ass. Until you realized the mother was the one that killed everybody.

[A]

No, I like.

[D]

That's what made that trash.

[B]

I like that.

[D]

And that unpredictability is what made it dope.

[F]

So what I like about it is it almost doesn't matter. Like, the story is interesting enough, and the characters are interesting enough.

[D]

The acting is interesting.

[F]

Enough. I. Even though I do care, it's who done it, it also kind of doesn't matter.

[B]

Like, even if it goes the way I think it's going, it matters to me.

[C]

It's.

[B]

Everything else is so good that I'm cool with.

[D]

It matters. It matters.

[B]

And I don't think there's a way to.

[A]

Because I'm just playing it out now. There's so many. Y' all think. I don't think there's a smooth, successful way to be a famous cuckoo.

[D]

That's not true.

[F]

That's probably true.

[B]

That's not true.

[A]

I don't see.

[B]

How do you.

[F]

How do you do that?

[B]

That's not true. Was a famous cop.

[A]

And the word was out on puff since 97 when I was in Cinderella's in Elizabeth.

[D]

But. Yeah, but.

[B]

Yeah, but you said there's no smooth and cool way.

[A]

There's no smooth way to do that.

[D]

Joe.

[B]

It's been. I disagree.

[D]

Give me the example. We can't have one because.

[A]

Not that I'm searching for it, but look.

[D]

And you did it in a smooth, smooth way. Nobody would know about it.

[A]

What is the smooth way to not

[D]

have 7 million people in your house knowing what your sexual fantasies are like?

[A]

Buff was on back pages.

[D]

That's my point.

[A]

Like, he was on the. The. The male escort website.

[B]

Yeah, but it was somebody he was

[A]

calling the Clarissa Shields. Yo, this is Eric.

[D]

Nah, that wasn't him.

[A]

Can't stop. Yo, you got somebody.

[E]

Take that.

[A]

Take. You got somebody. Well hung over there. Ready for a time. This is a lot of oil. How you define a lot of juice?

[C]

How do you define what a cuck is? Are we, like, on the same page?

[F]

Someone that watches their wife get pounded out?

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Yeah, that's a cuck.

[F]

On some level, that's not me at all.

[A]

I'm too in love. I'm too emotional. I can't. I can't. That's me in, like, another world. If I had the. If I had the Paradise Cortex AI Change manipulating time machine. Alex, you would get the universe. And that other show we watch, Dark Matter, and you go in the door. Yeah, maybe. But on this planet. And this time. No, no, not me. All right, where are we here?

[B]

Prize picks. Let's get it.

[A]

Prize picks. Here we go. Shoot your shot on prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. That's right. Shut the up.

[C]

Hey, man.

[A]

Yo. How much money did Parks hit for? Yo, why is he in the background?

[D]

He cracked him cracking. It's not just one crack. The eggs is just falling.

[A]

Like how many plays?

[F]

Yeah, we'll talk off air.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he cracked him.

[B]

Cracking him, cracking him.

[A]

Five digits.

[D]

Yes, a couple times.

[A]

Five digits with a two. A couple times with a two in the front.

[B]

Listen, listen, what he said.

[A]

Oh, he cracked him a couple.

[F]

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[F]

fool or the Wizards.

[A]

What did the Wizards do?

[B]

They. They had a fan come out for the half court shot to win. Was it 10 grand?

[C]

I think $10,000.

[B]

$10,000 and I believe it was blindfolded.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they treated. They had everybody respond like he won.

[A]

That was funny.

[F]

It's very funny. But it up, really up.

[B]

Real up.

[C]

But it was April Fool's.

[D]

I hope the organization treated the person accordingly.

[C]

They released a statement afterwards and they said everybody was in on the joke.

[E]

Yeah, the fan was. Was an act. Was like an actor, too. Not for me. Yeah.

[B]

I don't.

[E]

I don't like. It's just not my brand of comedy. I don't like Mark.

[C]

That's the best kind.

[E]

I'm not judging it. It's just not. It doesn't make me laugh.

[F]

You have a dark sense of humor.

[E]

Yeah, but I don't like to. I don't. I don't like to see somebody publicly humiliated.

[F]

Oh.

[E]

And so even, like, I'm just telling you my preference.

[D]

You lying. Only of you.

[A]

To humiliate Tor. Yeah. You publicly humiliate people as your brand of comedy.

[E]

No, for me, like a complete civilian stranger.

[A]

Well, you're gonna add enough caveats, ain't he?

[E]

No, that's what I'm saying. If we're clapping back and forth, it's. No, I'm.

[A]

Then molestation jokes are fine.

[E]

There's no limit. If we're going back and forth, there's very few limits.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

The idea of an innocent person who's not in on a joke, who's not trying to be funny, who's not trying to clown nobody, getting clowned by 40,000 people.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Then it's fucked up.

[E]

That's not funny to me. So to me, like, watching that is fucked up. It's not entertaining to me. Even if it's a simulation. I'm just not entertaining. I'm not, like, right up on my jersey.

[A]

And the wizards.

[F]

What if they gave him ten grand after the fact anyway?

[D]

Then that's amazing.

[E]

That's why I said for that they

[F]

just had to endure humiliation for a brief period of time.

[E]

If you break that 10,000 checkout in front of him in front of the same stands.

[F]

No, no, no.

[E]

Because then you get the standing ovation and all that.

[D]

I don't give a fuck about that. Give me the money after we go. I don't give a.

[A]

Give me the check. Puff gave investors. Anytime that big cardboard check come out, I'd be like, this is a. Yo.

[D]

You give me the stage. I don't give a.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But context matters, though, man. It's April fools. If it were me, I would have laughed, too, and said, ah, it. You got me. I thought it was a good joke,

[E]

but you probably have access to 10,000.

[D]

Not me.

[E]

You know, it's like if for some people, that's life changing, and it just. It's not funny. It's just like when I watch them do the thing where the person comes out and proposes and the girl says, no, those be skits, too. It's not funny to me. It's just like. I don't know.

[B]

I don't like that kind of thing.

[D]

I'm not a fan of it if it was a civilian, but if it was an actor that was in on it, then his feelings not being hurt.

[A]

He's being, oh, we gonna rain on April Fool's Day.

[E]

You know I don't like pranks that much, my nigga.

[D]

Just imagine.

[A]

Right? Y' all are right already. You don't have to. No, I'm just saying I agree with what y' all are saying. I was shocked to see so many adults still participating in April Fool's Day, honestly.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yo, if I see another Instagram post somebody pretending they pregnant. Yeah, some people pretending. I was like, just. It was a hard sell, ladies.

[A]

Y' all ran that little AI pregnancy picture into the ground using the same sonogram. Some of y' all wasn't hittable in the slightest. It just wasn't believable at all. And a camera. Yeah. Ain't nobody trying to ruin your summer. Go ahead. Pat you on the ass to get you out the house. Yeah, go. Go ahead, baby. Now when you got to ask? Sad girl leaving house anyway.

[E]

Do y' all do. Do y' all like pranks? No, I like it with their funny sometimes. Like Ian. I'll give you example. Ian, before you were here, when I first got pranked, y'.

[F]

All.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Hadn't y' all think y'.

[B]

All.

[E]

That was funny, the lottery.

[D]

That was.

[B]

It was only funny cuz I caught on super.

[D]

That was funny.

[B]

If I really thought I won that, I'm hot.

[E]

How much was it for?

[A]

Well, no, he pranked like. Like you.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

It was really you. We pranked everybody. No, it was in a bodega thinking he won.

[A]

No, you were in the studio thinking he was sick.

[E]

Oh, no, he. I got pranked, too. I'm just. I wasn't the only.

[D]

That was funny. No, that was funny. I wasn't.

[B]

I didn't feel.

[C]

How much was it for, though?

[E]

A million.

[A]

A million?

[E]

Oh, do you see what I'm saying?

[B]

He gave everybody scratch offs.

[F]

Okay?

[B]

Some were real, some were fake. And when you. We all were sitting there scratching them.

[A]

Addicted to money.

[B]

Hold up this hit and ran to

[A]

the bodega to go cash that in real quick. Yeah, just herbs. Let the greed take over.

[B]

Herbs.

[A]

This pocket.

[E]

I thought I won a million dollars.

[A]

Why is that green? Mark went and called his wife these,

[B]

and she got mad at him.

[E]

There was six people here, and two of them won a million dollars. I had a 2 and 6 chance

[B]

and you was late.

[E]

I was salty.

[B]

But you didn't get it, though.

[E]

I was salty.

[A]

He's still salty.

[E]

He just did the odds. Like, damn. It's one thing if you just don't win, but if two out of six people win.

[A]

You know the funny about that? I'm so finicky. I could almost never look at somebody the same over that. Like, if I win a fake million and you.

[B]

You really tight about it, I don't

[A]

know if I could let something stupid like that go.

[D]

The finesse monopoly.

[A]

Oh, I'm not over that yet. I'm not over that yet.

[E]

Listen, I wasn't mad that y' all won. I just wanted to win two. I hope they lose the money in taxes. It wasn't like that. It was just like, yo, I'd like to win in too, because I was so close. You in my dummy. That's a good joke. Odds, man.

[D]

Mark was.

[B]

Mark was.

[D]

That was hot. That would start scratching them shits off,

[E]

like, when it was still 50 more tickets.

[A]

Give me a quarter. Oh, man. Is hilarious.

[D]

That was funny.

[E]

I would never do a joke like that to somebody. I would. I would. And I love.

[D]

I get it.

[E]

This is not my kind of.

[A]

My pranks are different. Right? When we all lived in the same house and I was the only one awake, like, that's prank time to me. I grab the megaphone, go in somebody room when they sleep, put it today. Beer with the sirens.

[F]

As much as being just a.

[B]

She's being a. People do that.

[D]

Now, some of the pranks be funny. Like, I watch some of them shits on the gram, but some of them

[B]

shits to get you.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Up dog. But they.

[B]

Some of them be funny.

[A]

They all be actors.

[C]

They use that as an excuse to be an. But them shits don't be funny though, man.

[D]

Going to ice cream thing and the be in the ice cream like, yo, that be funny. Like, some of that is funny.

[A]

I ain't going to hold you. What was the prank MTV show? Was it prank?

[D]

It was funny punk.

[A]

That was funny.

[D]

A lot of them episodes were amazing.

[F]

Yeah, Breaking with a budget's nice.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

You got to see the real side of people. Like Justin Timberlake, like, so it was.

[D]

Some of them shits were amazing, bro.

[C]

The one with TI Was not funny, though.

[D]

TI One wasn't funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they looked in his bag and it was like seven to eight bullets in his hand. And he like, yo, my. I'm on Federal. I don't know who you know.

[A]

No, that's funny now. That's still funny.

[F]

That's still kind of funny.

[C]

Nah, it was bad.

[A]

He like, yo.

[D]

And then TI man, that was in on the. Kept arguing, so TI Just kept saying, hey, yo, bruh. Don't do that, bruh. Hey, yo, bro. He said that shit like, a hundred times, yo, don't say that, bro. Hey, yo, bro, that's funny if that's not T.I. no, no, no, but it was T.I. bro.

[C]

He sound like a sharecropper.

[A]

Like, get these boots out my hands.

[B]

I got Packed this bag.

[A]

I don't even wanna, like.

[D]

I don't want to put my fingerprints on this. Yo, yo, that was funny.

[A]

Come out with a Von Dutch. Gotcha.

[D]

Yo, that wasn't funny.

[C]

I'm gonna get you.

[B]

All right, so we, all of us

[A]

here in support of pranks. That's all it sounds like. That's all it sounds.

[B]

I'm not a prank guy.

[E]

Not my cup of tea. It's funny, though. I get the humor. The humor's not lost on me. I'm not outraged. I just don't like it. It's like, I wouldn't tune into that necessarily.

[C]

So you wasn't a fan of Candid Camera back in the day, so.

[E]

No. But, like, again, for me, it's like, are you being humiliated? Like, in Punk at least? Like, they. They're at the end, they all laugh and they enjoy it, and they're good with. You know what I mean? And it's kind of like they're cooler than everybody. So you're almost watching somebody who's up here get brought to Earth. That's different than taking a regular person and, like, putting them on the ground, giving them hope.

[A]

No man in the universe, you're gonna find a cause to.

[E]

It's not a cause. It's just my brand of comedy.

[A]

No matter the planet or orbit that he's in, he is gonna find the cause to fucking.

[E]

Yeah, it's not a cause.

[A]

It's just. It's just what? Not always organizing and organizing against PR. He banging on April 4th. I'm sick of mar.

[E]

Do your thing. Y' all enjoy that.

[A]

Oh, my God. Jesus.

[F]

Someone got you good one time, huh?

[E]

No.

[A]

Yeah. He's in a cult. Oh, not God. Gotcha.

[E]

That was my dick.

[A]

All right, pull it back. That was inaudible. Inaudible. That was my black boy, Joy and Parks. Black boy Joy and Parks. Oh, I'mma just say a tagline. While y' all laugh like hyenas in the. Y' all having a blood. No, you ain't hear him.

[D]

That's why I said, yo. Yo was an occult.

[B]

That's a prank.

[D]

This said.

[A]

Ha. I'm not God.

[D]

Oh, that was my dick.

[E]

Are you crazy?

[D]

This here is special, bro. What the.

[B]

That's a different type of dark comedy.

[A]

You were.

[D]

Yeah, your humor is different.

[B]

You got it.

[C]

For real.

[B]

For real.

[F]

You got it, though.

[A]

Where was we supposed to go?

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

That's a very good question.

[E]

It's a hard pivot now.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, no.

[E]

We have a place.

[A]

Yeah. No. Yeah. Something that I wish was an April Fool's joke, but it is not. We have to talk about. About Brandy. Oh. Oh, Brandy. Some of y' all wanted somebody else do it. I don't want to talk about it.

[E]

Have y' all had a chance to read her memoir yet?

[A]

No. No. Or anyone's memoir.

[F]

Not a big memoir.

[E]

Don't do that.

[A]

Don't do that. Don't belittle a. Because they don't want to read somebody's memoir.

[E]

Y' all don't read memoirs?

[A]

No.

[D]

Not of a pop star.

[F]

I don't read.

[E]

You would read a Michael Jackson memorial?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Really?

[A]

No.

[F]

No.

[B]

Doubt it.

[C]

I would. Those are my favorite kind of books.

[E]

They're great books.

[F]

I'm not a big memoir guy.

[E]

Fair enough.

[A]

Is the truth in here?

[F]

That's the problem.

[D]

Some money at the end.

[F]

No is the answer zero truth.

[A]

The truth is never in the memoir. No.

[D]

Some enlightenment.

[C]

You would read it.

[E]

It's in there, just not what they say. So you got to read between what they say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be something in the middle.

[F]

Yeah. This is all lies, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie.

[E]

Like when someone says, like, this was my dark period. I know they wrote cocaine. They don't say that.

[A]

They just my dark period. That is what that means.

[E]

You gotta know how to read the memoir.

[A]

He's right.

[E]

But if y' all do. Just as a side note, before we talk about Brandi, if you do want to read good memoirs, the ones that are co written with David Ritz are some of the best ones. He's done BB King, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye. I mean, some of the best ones are David Ritz.

[A]

So those. That's why, God forbid, if there was a line to just volunteer to be stupid, I would walk. If you think I'm taking a second out of my day to read BB

[E]

Ginger, if anything, who the

[F]

joke, I'll

[A]

Sign up to be uncultured. I get it.

[E]

It's a good joke. Joke.

[A]

But oh, my God. You read that B.B. king memo? No, the most we read is the king 20 times.

[F]

For you to be this disrespectful.

[A]

That's what it's named after.

[C]

Oh,

[A]

Holy King. What? He played guitar. Lucille, your helmet.

[B]

You don't know Lucille.

[E]

You all the proud.

[B]

No, your pop's going.

[A]

I wish I could hear the jokes

[F]

in his head right now. Horrible jokes.

[A]

Rest in peace, bbk. Hey, yo, Joe, you check out that Chubby ch. Bbk. Getting washed in a version. Hey, if y. If y' all woke up to that apple stage talking about something,

[B]

Lucille was

[A]

the name of the game. Good. That too. That is disrespectful, too. Your pop will tell you what he say. Yes.

[E]

It's like a staple of the.

[A]

He said what he think. No. How many Spotify monthly listeners. You said it. Disrespectful. I need to, I need to set your. Wow. Hey, yo, you so disrespectful, yo.

[B]

You are disrespectful, dog.

[A]

Oh, man. Oh, boy. Oh, man. Man. Disrespected. That great. B.B.

[F]

king's one of my favorites, but this is hilarious.

[E]

But B.B. king is the legend.

[A]

B.B. king is him. I'm well aware, but it's too funny now. Who's he going against? Her divorces going in the twist. Boy For Chubby, of course. Of course.

[E]

Chubby.

[A]

Wait, one, one, nothing Chubby. When that comes off, I tell you that. Okay. Holy. Sorry.

[E]

Oh, no, it's fine.

[A]

Oh, they, they going to crucify. Go ahead.

[F]

What song do you sing?

[A]

That was crazy, cuz.

[F]

Yes is the answer.

[E]

But.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

So, Brandy, come on, tell us about that.

[E]

I can't transition to Brandy right now.

[A]

Right, Brandy.

[B]

Come on, Brandy.

[E]

So, yeah, Brandy wrote a book. Oh, a good book. I, I, I read it yesterday. It's, It's a good book. Good memoir.

[A]

You read the whole. How many pages was it? Yeah, everybody heard that. I'm glad we all heard that the same way.

[D]

Book in one day.

[E]

I read five books a week. I know I gotta give you a monster.

[A]

I'm a leave if y' all keep this up. I'm walking smooth out of here. Are we just letting this fly? What we don't read. So you think he lied?

[E]

No.

[A]

I need to hear about the rest of his day. Did you do anything else?

[F]

Did you.

[A]

You pissed? Like, oh, my. How many pages is the book?

[D]

So, in fairness, a couple hundred.

[E]

That's why I Asked him, in fairness, because big fun, right? Memoirs, I tend to do memoirs. I tend to do a lot more, especially pop memoirs. I tend to do audiobooks to mix it up. So I woke up. I have it on Kindle. I also have it on. I always buy the paperback because I'm a bookseller. So make sure you support your local independent bookstore.

[A]

Indeed.

[E]

Read the book. Did the Kindle. And then as I drove out, I can get a couple chapters off in the car. And it's actually better because when it's. When it's the artist in their voice.

[F]

Oh, she read it.

[D]

It's in their voices.

[E]

Yeah, it's great. Like, Eve's biography was great like that, too. You get to hear the whole story in her. You know what I mean?

[F]

Especially the ones with nice voices.

[A]

Right.

[C]

As reading a book, if you hear the audio version of it. Yeah, okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

But I tend to split. I rarely read a whole book. Audio. I tend to consume. Just.

[D]

I try.

[E]

Yeah. And some of it is for time, because I do a lot of book interviews. So a lot of times, like, I. Before I interview somebody, I want to read their whole book.

[A]

You got it? Sure.

[E]

So, like, and it's. My bookstore's in Philly, so a lot of time out. On the ride down, I'll finish the book driving.

[A]

Got it. We got it.

[E]

So anyway, it was a good book. Y' all should support Brandi. Support the book. Indeed. And the journalists who helped write it.

[A]

Yeah. The Brandy topic is the absolute worst topic to say. He was reading and driving. Oh, shit. Damn.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You should pay attention to the. You jerk. What is wrong with you?

[F]

Read the rules.

[A]

That just didn't work. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, God.

[B]

Y' all getting awesome.

[A]

Fire n. We get our off tonight. This is getting some off.

[C]

Top three for sure.

[E]

Anyway, I mean, it's. I think the thing that everybody's talking about right now. She talks about her journey through stardom, life, some highs, some lows, some things missing. I would have liked to hear more about. Yeah. You know, she also didn't mention, for example, she didn't mention her Kobe experiences, which she said she intentionally left out because of his death and things like that. So there are things I want to hear more about. That said, she did talk about her relationship with Boyz II Men singer Wanye Morris. Wanye. Is that his name? Morris? Yeah, that's his name.

[A]

Who ain't dead, but she trying to kill.

[F]

Oh, she was tearing him up in there.

[E]

She talks about their. I mean, she. She is Reflecting on their relationship, which has been rumored about for years. When. When Wanye has talked about it in the past, he's talked about it as a relationship that was positive, that her parents knew about, that he met when she was younger, but then they kind of. Of in his language, consummated it when they were older. He didn't say consummated, but they had sex when she was a little bit older. There's a very famous Breakfast Club interview where, you know, they're talking about it. We'll get back to that. Brandy told a different story in the book. She says she was 15 when they started dating. It's still not clear when they had sex, but 16 would be the oldest.

[B]

How old is he?

[E]

22.

[A]

Oh, what the fuck?

[E]

22. So that's part. And she says they were sneaking around. Her parents didn't know she was initially. She's saying. She's basically saying when they were in a relationship, her parents didn't know. She also says that he became more and more controlling that she was in love. And you know, he was manipulating the situation. She eventually caught him with another woman and they broke it off. But she basically is saying in retrospect, he was. I'm summarizing here. But basically like he was too old to be in that kind of a dynamic. He should have known better.

[D]

Even when she was mentally manipulating.

[E]

Yeah, even when she didn't know he. Even when she didn't know better. He should have. And that's the gist of. Gets a little bit uglier in the public. Because after the press releases came out and the stories came out from this book, that Breakfast Club interview resurfaces. And it's kind of gross. It's kind of gross. Have y' all heard it?

[F]

No.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Or I have maybe and don't remember.

[E]

It's worth. It's worth. Listen to this.

[A]

And you had a celebrity relationship.

[E]

Were you the only one that was

[A]

ever involved with a celebrity?

[E]

Wanya was banging Brandon. He left a lowly broken hearted bro.

[B]

No, I didn't actually leave a. He was teaching reggae how to do videos.

[E]

That's why they called you Squirt.

[A]

That's what I was thinking.

[E]

I mean, Brandi, Brandi, you just said to her behind the music that you broke her heart.

[A]

Cause you fell in love with somebody else.

[D]

I mean, you only fall in love with somebody.

[B]

You only fall out of love with

[D]

somebody else if somebody makes you fall

[B]

out of love, you know.

[D]

So if that was the situation, if that was just.

[B]

If that's what she said, that's political.

[A]

I like that.

[B]

I can't, you know, I can't contest to her view about it. I can just only live by my view.

[A]

Revolt.

[B]

Revolt.

[E]

They were saying she was really young

[A]

when y' all did.

[B]

Yeah, she was not. Not that young. Not.

[A]

Not.

[E]

Why?

[B]

That's why. That's why I stopped it.

[E]

Hold on.

[A]

That's why I stopped it and said that she.

[B]

She wasn't that young.

[A]

Because I don't want y' all to think Boys to Men was young.

[C]

Weed.

[B]

No, I was young too.

[E]

She said she was 15 and she

[A]

had to keep it a secret, cuz she.

[D]

No, no, see, see, we.

[A]

We.

[B]

We did the thing. We did the thing when she was like 16, 17.

[E]

Around that time, you know, you. So you were still a boy too.

[B]

You had.

[E]

I was.

[B]

I wasn't too. I wasn't old.

[E]

I wasn't like 38 years old. Nothing like that.

[B]

I was old enough to. She was old enough to get it.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Was it legal in the state y' all was in?

[B]

I mean, we was always in different states.

[D]

Oh, my.

[A]

We had a nomad relationship. We just, you know, we didn't do it in the states that it was legal. It was illegal.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

No, no, no.

[D]

It was.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[E]

It was.

[A]

It was a.

[E]

A time.

[B]

It was a relationship and grew and.

[D]

And it.

[A]

And it ungrted and unquirted. I like that. Yeah.

[B]

List. Okay.

[A]

That offender list.

[F]

Yikes.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen.

[B]

That was a lot.

[F]

That was a lot.

[B]

That was a lot.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

I'm kind of speechless.

[A]

That is nasty.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. Just like. It's. It's. There's just no way to. It's awful. That interview was. Now, obviously, this interview was before the Brandy stuff came out. And no one really. I mean, no. Some people thought it was gross back then.

[C]

We always speculated that they were involved in some capacity.

[E]

Yeah. And I knew they were. You know what I mean?

[D]

I remember when they were dating, that's the only thing that kind of tripped me up. Because it was widespread when they were dating.

[E]

Yeah. It wasn't really.

[D]

So I don't understand how you could say, yo, we were sneaking around. Because. Because I wasn't industry related or affiliated, and I remember when they were dating.

[E]

Well, so. But, you know, so they did. When Brokenheart came out, the Soul Power remix came out a little bit later, and that's when Wanye was on it. And some people back then, you know, if you did a duet with somebody, people assumed you were dating. So I think There was a way almost you could hide in plain sight,

[D]

depending on they were dating. They used to be. Yeah, they used to be outside together and shit like that. I mean, I still don't remotely exonerate him for what he did, but.

[E]

But I get what you're saying. I mean, that's one of the pushbacks is, you know, your parents knew. Your parents knew and her parents were

[D]

so industry and your mother was your manager and all of that stuff.

[E]

Right. It's hard for her. It's hard to believe that she didn't know and maybe she's protecting her parents. You know, there's a lot of what Wanye did was unacceptable, indefensible.

[D]

That's it. Yeah.

[E]

There is a room for a conversation about the parents and all those other things that I just don't know enough about their business. I know Brandi's version of it. Other people have different takes on it. One other thing that Brandi said in the book, as I'm remembering, is when she met him, he would call her to give advice. He almost positioned himself like a mentor. So one of the things that's been. One of the things that's been coming up is the G word.

[B]

Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

[F]

Yeah, it's all bad. Yeah, that's all bad.

[E]

It's all part of the conversation.

[C]

Of course he hasn't responded or said anything.

[E]

Not a word. In fact, he's blocked. He's removed comments on all of his IG post.

[C]

That's how it starts.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, disable the comments.

[A]

You going to drop this news while I'm on tour? God damn.

[B]

Yeah, they on tour.

[A]

Yeah, they might drop the tour. Damn it.

[D]

Could up the tour. Yeah. Yikes.

[C]

But do you feel like the other bandmates might be like complicit? Cuz they all knew, right?

[E]

I mean, you hear Nate in the inter.

[B]

You hear this, they. They complicated it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah. I think there's. I think there's room for a conversation that doesn't. That could be healthy.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Like if. If he came forward and said, look, we. This one up. At the time I thought it was okay. I realized that it's not now. Like he has to have. There has to be accountability here. There has to be an openness. People, you know, people fucking. He was young, he was on the road. He was a product of the industry too. And the industry is very predatory toward young artists, particularly young women artists. And he's part of that same machine. Again, not to bring books into this, but when you read like Aretha Franklin's memoir, the second one or the second biography that David Ritz did of her actually she talks about even on the gospel scene when she was on the road with Clara Ward and Those people at 14, 15 years old, they were orgies. She was impregnated as a teenager by a grown man. You get what I'm saying? So there's a way that like that just became the norm of the culture. That's not to excuse it. It's to say, hey, there's an opportunity to put a spotlight on it and say, yo, this was up and maybe we've grown since then.

[F]

I would hope so.

[E]

That would be the conversation I'd want to hear from him. And yeah, not the breakfast.

[D]

It was just a product of the times.

[E]

Yeah. But also it was up at the acknowledge because when Slave owner said that, I was getting a little uneasy, you know, I'm just saying like it was a moral transgression. But I didn't know any better. Now I know better.

[B]

Gotcha.

[E]

You know, that's what I, that's what I would hope. That's the best thing I think he could say. I don't want to hear any more of that Breakfast Club.

[F]

Yeah, that was terrible.

[B]

That was terrible. And without accountability, you get none of that.

[E]

Right.

[B]

It's going to start there.

[A]

So.

[B]

Yeah,

[A]

okay, I agree with everything you said. How can you not right putting a pin in that one? Because it's done. You're absolutely correct. My stance on tell all books is just always the same. If the issue was justice, then why Is this a 30 year secret?

[D]

Tell it.

[A]

So her right on when to tell it and how to tell it, I guess you respect. But when you put it in a book or just anything that you can sell or try to monetize, interview coins off of it hits different for me. It does, it does. This is a woman that just three, four, five weeks ago I was saying, come on Shine, come on, Mace. This is somebody that. There's not a peep about her on that side of things. That's not just running around talking about who she slept with, who she didn't sleep with. That's not Brandi's bag. I've never known that to be Brandi's bag. The tell all book doesn't really seem on brand for her.

[E]

See, I don't think it was a tell all. That's what I'm saying. It's not a tell all book. I've seen them Kitty Kelly style books where. You know what I mean, where the person's writing everything about a person's business or where a person tells all their own business. I've seen those kinds of books. This is just her telling her life. And with the Shine thing, it was like, when Brandi finally did put out a statement, it was like, well, of course she has a right to respond to a. What's been said about her after that Breakfast Club interview's been floating around, and after all these stories about her have been floating around, I could see why she'd want to say, look, what you've been hearing isn't true. Here's the real story. Like, if that Breakfast Club interview doesn't happen, maybe she doesn't write about that in her book. You know what I mean? It's like, does she have an opportunity or right to respond? You could read it cynically and say. And you could be correct in saying,

[A]

well, if you're responding, then you're not mentioned talking about wan ye. Because you would be responding to the people that brought your name up. If you're responding.

[E]

No, but what I mean is, if

[B]

Wanye is saying, yeah, but the way he was talking. And we know what the.

[A]

What you told me in the interview.

[B]

Yeah, in the interview.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

[B]

I'm responding to that.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. That interview wasn't happening.

[D]

When Was that interview?

[E]

2021. Was it something like. I mean, Angela Yee was still on, so it had to be at least three or four. It was. I think it was five years ago, but I can't. I can look and see.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm gonna address all this shit. I hear she's not a person that speaks about her public life, so all these little things that's been going on, I'll address it when I write a book.

[C]

Yeah, it was. It's kind of like perfect timing in a lot of ways, because the book

[A]

was gonna come out regardless.

[C]

It just so happened that Mace and Cam and Sean were just, you know, in the mix of things, talking.

[A]

And I do think that a lot of the female artists and entertainers have, like, some version of a horror story. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Unfortunately.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially young ones.

[A]

Yeah. So, I mean, I. I get it. It's the book part. That's all to me. Yeah. But I ain't the book police.

[B]

And again, if you heard. And you heard that interview, where do you clear that up if you wanted to? If you're not the type, that's the police station.

[E]

But, but it probably wasn't illegal.

[C]

You write a statement. I think 15 year olds dating 22 year olds are always illegal.

[E]

That's not so one. There's some fuzziness about whether it's 15 or 16, right? Let's say it was 16.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

The age of. In a lot of states, the age of consent, of sexual consent is 15. Some states it's 16. Unfortunately, in some states. Lower. Yeah, it's even lower. And then there's the, then they've instituted some Romeo and Juliet rules so that even when it's younger, the other person has to be younger too. Like you can be, like you can have sex at 14, but the person has to be like 16. Because, you know, I advocated for a young man years ago, Jenarlo Wilson, who had sex with a classmate, but because she was underage, he was found guilty of child molestation. He was 16, she was 14. So they've changed some of the laws to make it more, you know, more fair and more reasonable. But it's still complicated. And it really is a state by state thing. So sometimes it's like, okay, this is a power dynamic that's awful. This is a thing that happened that shouldn't happen. But it's not illegal. Cause the laws, the sexual laws around this country are all over the place,

[A]

all over the map. Yeah, yeah, I get that.

[E]

Yeah. So it's rough. A lot of times all you can do is tell your story. I'm not mad at her. And I mean, have you ever had a conversation with somebody, argument with somebody, or some kind of exchange where you like, I can't have this on the phone. I need to think my, I need to think this through and text it. I need to write.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

A lot of times that's how books are for me. You know what I mean? There are things that I feel better about when I write through it. Because you can particularly think it through. You can think it through. You can unpack the story. No matter how long you talk, sometimes words just come different on the page. And for some people it's the opposite. But I think for celebrities, especially ones who to write books with other people, that other person can also help you process it.

[B]

And you have the, with writing, you have the opportunity to go over it.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You have the opportunity to. When you're speaking, emotions kick in and you could you lose a little bit of that control? I might. Didn't want to say this this way, but now I said it.

[E]

Exactly, exactly. And I've ghostwritten for people and sometimes in the process of asking them what happened. They come to new understandings of what happened. Or sometimes I'll be like, did that happen or did that happen? And then I go, you know what? Actually, that doesn't make sense. Maybe there's other things. So sometimes it gives you a space to process and be more accurate in your description, too, and more emotionally honest as well. So I ain't mad at. I ain't mad at them. I ain't mad at it. You know, if it's your storyteller, that's my next venture.

[C]

That's what I want to do.

[E]

Ghostwright.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I have someone. I want to write their memoir. I've been pitching him, so hopefully that comes to pass at some point.

[F]

That'd be dope.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Q Tip. I want to do Q. Okay. I think he has an interesting life, for sure.

[F]

We don't know much about it. Yeah.

[C]

Honestly, The Kevin Bacon of hip hop.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

So, Q Tip, if you're listening, I would read it.

[F]

That's a memoir.

[A]

Oh, you had made it sound like it was like.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

You're just begging.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I thought y' all have a relationship. Yeah. Okay, cool.

[A]

Does he know you?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Cool. Let me stop Q Tip. He's no BB King. Q will wash the out of BB King versus Act Lucille up. Yeah. All right.

[B]

What else?

[A]

What else we got? What else we got?

[B]

What else?

[E]

Well, since we talking about Q Tip, let's bring up this Cameron Jay Z situation. I thought it was super interesting.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

The king of the subliminal.

[F]

Not so not so subliminal. In hindsight, I missed this one entirely, man.

[A]

Samesies.

[D]

No, you got to be in the inner.

[A]

This nigga's the best.

[C]

That blew my mind.

[A]

You don't really, though.

[F]

It was. It was. It was right there.

[D]

But no, you don't know Cam's nickname is Fleet. Unless you know Cam's nickname is Flea

[E]

back then, you don't know who.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

You don't know.

[F]

I still listen to Otis today.

[D]

You don't know what that Cam was signed to Asylum. You don't know the word trickery unless you are in the know, and then you can apply it accordingly. But you wouldn't know that.

[B]

So you think he's subliminally picking a Jay Z?

[D]

Let me ask you a question.

[B]

You ever heard of rhyme that he said with. You think he subliminally was talking about you? So one time, because we had said some slick about Kanye, I forget what it was, but I remember you said Something about Kanye. I had distribution through Asylum Records at that particular time. And then Kanye did the song with Jay Z when they first. That first single for the album together. And we had just said something about Kanye. So on that song, that song probably came out like two months or months offer to whatever after we said something about Kanye. And he said in the bars, he said, live from the Mercer run up on Easy the wrong way. I might murk, you flee in the G450. I might surface political refugee Asylum can be purchased.

[A]

He slick down. Yeah, he slick.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You just never know. Yeah. Sheesh.

[C]

That's a good one.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

That was great.

[A]

That is a great.

[F]

That is great.

[E]

That's vicious. That's vicious and it's dope.

[F]

That Kim, no one would have known he could have kept that one for his whole life.

[E]

Well, because Q Tip had come out a while back with his own interview saying that that was about something else. Because he said he was in the Mercer Hotel with Jay Z and ye when somebody ran up on Kanye. On Kanye and stopped it. It. Yeah, he tells that story. So that's why. If that made sense. Right, Right. And maybe it's a double entendre.

[D]

Maybe because it probably was like, yo, this is my little brother. Whoever run up on him, I'm. I'mma defend him regardless of what angle was coming from.

[E]

So I always thought it was based on what Q tip at. I always thought it was based on what Q Tip is.

[A]

None of that Q tip. I just read it. I don't buy that for one second.

[C]

Sorry.

[E]

No, both things could have happened, I think. I mean, he said he was sending in the Mercer with somebody random on Yeezy. I think. I think that's true. I just think this other is also true. I mean, that's Jay Z's genius. And I know it's clever wordplay, man. Brilliant.

[A]

Yeah. And the only person that got hit was the thing I was shooting at.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Boom.

[A]

Nobody knew a thing. Those are the best. This guy's sick. And it's so brilliant that even the target has no choice but to say, that's a slight slick.

[C]

You felt someone ever shot at you?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

So whatever shot at you that we don't know.

[A]

Oh, that you don't know? No. Okay, Now y' all know everybody shot at me. Well, I mean, actually for a long time when hov was dissing me was like, oh, you're dreaming, you're delusional buttons.

[B]

They downplayed when Drake was shooting that

[A]

Hope doesn't even know your buddy Anybody that was successful, that was shooting at me. Oh, my God, that was so.

[C]

He was like the conspiracy theorist. Like, no, he's shooting at me. And people didn't believe.

[A]

They always made me look like the psycho rapper in the. In the wild Narcissist, like, talking to himself.

[B]

They remind Joe, like, yo, you not even. Not remind. That was up. But they would try to tell Joe, you are not big enough for this person to ever shoot at you.

[A]

You're dreaming, Joe. Have fun with your little raps. Whole time old firing away. That's ill. That is ill. This is fire, though.

[B]

Yeah, this is.

[A]

This is. This is. That nigga's a dick. He's a dick. And that's why I personally will just never believe all of that mature bullshit he was talking about with Frazier about, oh, man, you should just go away. He do that shit at the drop of a dime. Nigga, could you imagine being in the studio? The oldest beat is on you in there with Kanye, and you just gonna find somebody to shoot at. That's him. Yeah, he has a tank. The people that like to shoot at people just do it. I don't want to hear that. Yo, Badlin, yo, just what we've done to the culture, please. He gonna disembody the very next verse to come out.

[F]

That's a fact.

[A]

The very next verse to come out.

[D]

I'm not gonna know unless you know.

[E]

And maybe that's what he wants. Maybe he just wants a cyber battle.

[D]

He's saying that battle got too big to where it starts to be affected.

[A]

He's also the splinter of. If it ain't directly directed at me, I don't respect it. He said that.

[D]

He said that to Cam, and Cam knew it was a direct shot.

[A]

He respected it. No, it's not a direct. It hit somebody. Hit who? He was not.

[B]

No, it's direct to you. Like, if you know it, it, you

[D]

know I'm shooting at you.

[B]

I don't have to let everybody else know, yo, I'm shooting at this. He know.

[C]

I understand.

[D]

It's still subliminal. It's fuzzy.

[E]

You want direct in public.

[F]

Yeah, it's subliminal to the listener.

[A]

Yeah, it's always going to be a subliminal, and it's always going to hit that shitty dis.

[B]

What he say to you?

[A]

Little button up, man. But nobody is saying. Yo, he's about talking. Talking about Joe Button, but Joe Button, that he said about Birdman with the art on the wall with the repo house. He ain't have to say Birdman. It just sound like a nice bar about art. Chops your head off.

[C]

Rappers hear it differently though than regular people.

[A]

We do.

[B]

They're supposed to.

[A]

We do. And the rappers rappers ears. Rappers talk to rappers.

[E]

Like Cam heard that and immediately knew.

[F]

Yes, I'm sure.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And Asylum can be purchased.

[E]

That's the best part.

[B]

Like what he told Nas. You know who didn't. You know what? You know who. Let's keep that between me and you. The fans have no idea what the he's talking about.

[C]

You know who knew between the lines.

[B]

But you know who knew.

[D]

Unless you in the know, you don't know.

[B]

You don't know what.

[F]

Someone who didn't know. I had a pretty good idea that he was talking about someone's wife or something.

[B]

Not to that extent of what happened. Didn't know that.

[A]

I gotta tell you, I absolutely hate when people do that. What now? He was justified in it. He really did something. He put in the song. Cool. But that's one of those lines that always have an effect. Even if nothing is behind the. The red curtain.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Because now. Because now that you can say that

[A]

at any time to anybody, it will be effective.

[B]

But in this instance, like he knew.

[A]

Not talking about that.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. So when you. Somebody's saying it in that.

[A]

I'm just talking. Yeah. I'm talking about just people saying stop playing.

[E]

Stop playing.

[A]

And these new kids have that up a little bit. Like they just. Yo, stop before I stop eating up here. Doing Stop before please shut up. You're not about two like.

[B]

No, they. Yeah. These new kids different.

[A]

Well, yeah, that's different. P Coming.

[B]

They not. They not going to get on the record and say none of this. They going on Instagram black screen.

[A]

And then think of somewhere I want to be with Poo shy.

[F]

Where you want to be.

[A]

I wouldn't even pull up if he was at the gas station.

[F]

I'm out.

[A]

You got.

[B]

I got aaa.

[D]

If I run out there, I'm a thugger. It's one little two miles up. I know.

[B]

I know my car.

[D]

I mean, you know, down in Gatorade at that one. I'mma wait on it.

[A]

Anyway.

[F]

I don't wait till I get c. Anyway, I'm worried I'll make it.

[A]

I could walk smooth out of a freshly ordered Tomahawk when he walk in. You can have the food. I ain't even want hungry.

[B]

You don't want.

[D]

What's the little sauce on the side?

[F]

That's why I got the bone. You Just take that in the car and eat it like Fred Flintstone.

[D]

Walk out like Fred. I'm just about say walk out like Fred out of your head like, like,

[A]

yo, I'm take this to go. Speaking of the Brandy Wanye and her not wanting to cover Kobe, I was listening to Steve Stout tell a story to somebody about just how he knew Kobe was really official and really like that. He was talking about one night after one of them parties. He took him to a diner and something popped off. It was like some real street in there, and Kobe didn't back down. And yada, yada, yada. It just sound like a interesting story to hear. And then later on in the story, he's like, yeah, man, right there on Twitter. 23rd and 9th, man. Wow, she used to happen. And then I just had a nice little pause. I was like, oh, now I'm invested in the story differently. 23rd and night. Yeah, I think that's happened to all of us at 23rd.

[D]

Whoa, whoa.

[A]

On 23rd night.

[D]

Whoa.

[A]

What? What's happened to all of us being in there on the let out and wild breaking out. Oh, sure. I think that's happened to everybody, right? Did Chelsea Diner.

[D]

It has Club Chelsea. That club Chelsea was.

[A]

Chelsea Diner is still there too. Barely.

[B]

I probably.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I. I drive by, see yo dog

[C]

Club Chelsea was a lot of memories in that spot.

[A]

No, it's true that that place should be in the Hip Hop Museum.

[D]

It should. No, it should.

[A]

It should be in the Hip Hop Museum.

[D]

Chelsea some a picture of it. A revelation. Something of. It should definitely. It has a place in New York City.

[C]

Hip hop for people that don't know what we're talking about. Chelsea Don is a diner in the Chelsea area of New York City that's open like 24 hours a day. And after the club, people would go there and eat.

[B]

It was. It was New York's Waffle House for y'. All.

[D]

It was a place to meet.

[A]

Nah, that's just way more dangerous.

[D]

You might get your ass beat. What it was.

[A]

You could die right outside of Chelsea.

[B]

A lot of people got.

[D]

And Waffle House don't be having the baddies. Chelsea had that bad.

[C]

You keep saying stop you there, sir.

[B]

You keep saying that.

[A]

Are we gonna address Ish. Come on, address them. Let's do it right now.

[B]

Saying Waffle House don't have. I've never seen them.

[C]

Which waffles you going to a bunch of them, man.

[D]

In the South Carolina. South Carolina, Virginia. I've never seen them.

[B]

Never baddies no, never.

[A]

You know, he don't like the poor whites, poor pogs in there ordering some 99 cent. He's out of there. Poor paws with the dirty feet. Dirty feet. Waffle House. At the right time in the right city, the surrounding bar, the surrounding nightclub, the bowling alley, let out, the let out where some of the bad ones be at. Yep, they're gonna come to Waffle House. That's all. It's open, especially in Atlanta. And you. Oh, yeah. Oh, him and you. Yeah, yeah, baby mama.

[D]

But when I go to the in

[A]

Atlanta, they you see your next baby mama work at Waffle House. You'll be right there picking up in a por.

[F]

Waffle House.

[A]

You'll be outside in a Porsche picking your next BM up from Waffle House.

[C]

Okay, I hear you.

[A]

What if. Oh, my God. Never mind, forget it. What I'm. I'm about to say, like, is that you? Is that like Ebony K and the bus driver for you?

[D]

No, I don't judge people based on

[B]

she got to own the Waffle House.

[D]

No, I don't judge people based on their job.

[A]

You think a girl that work at Waffle House can't get you to shoot it up?

[D]

I'm not shooting up the executive, so it's not really my bag to be shooting up chicks.

[A]

You two in the hole, nigga, just

[D]

like me and my percentage is high. Two out of how many?

[A]

I don't talk.

[F]

That wasn't a subliminal no.

[A]

No. Well, it's a question that he refuses to answer himself on this pocket. Two out of how many?

[B]

A bone.

[E]

Shit,

[A]

the two kids you shouting up enough up. And you had that other conversation too, that we can. You had that other talk. Yes, you did. Your way. I'm at in life right now.

[B]

This ain't the time right now.

[A]

I just started working again. Crazy. You don't need this right now. I don't even really know how to take care of myself, yo. I'm still a kid, yo. I'm a kid, yo. Like, this is the last thing we need.

[D]

That's.

[E]

You saw my text message, Joe.

[D]

Yo, that's crazy, dog.

[B]

Come on, we just go. We go over there in the morning. Come on.

[A]

Yeah, come on. Go in the morning. Did you take the pill?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Send the video. Send the the video. Send the vid. Buck fifty on the way. Send the video.

[D]

That's some wild to say.

[A]

Send the video. Be talking about. No, I say it. Yo, yo, I shot it up last night. So let's go ahead and head on over to cbs.

[B]

Go get that real quick.

[A]

She talking about it's going to up my cycle,

[E]

yo.

[A]

It's gonna up my life. Why do we give a about your psycho mom? Hey, hey. I said, well, you do you like the alternative, right? Your cycle change. Yo girls, yo, you know what else

[F]

will up your cycle, right?

[A]

Yo, you won't get a cycle. I don't understand what you think. I don't want to take it. Cause it's gonna change my cycle. Yo, ma, yo, you think this is wise? Come on, man.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

I'll call the driver. You ain't got to walk over there. Oh, man, he'll take you. This nigga is crazy funny. I'm gonna say this and we moving on, but I shouldn't say it, but it really did happen then, you know? Cause my memory is bad. So I was having to plan B talk before I guess she actually ever took one from me. And I was like, yeah, remember, yo, remember, man, I had you go over the.

[F]

That would.

[B]

That never happened. I never did that.

[D]

I don't remember.

[A]

I argued it. Nah, that was. That was you.

[D]

Oh, me argument you like, like

[A]

when the narrator.

[B]

When the narrator pop up. It wasn't her.

[D]

If Woody would have called the police.

[A]

That is crazy. That's the other thing that's dope about your 40s. Like, I'm so cool with her being right most the time about, like, if she say it, she was right.

[B]

That's a lot for you to get get to that point, cuz. You'll argue some even when you know you wrong.

[A]

My memory going, My vision is gone.

[B]

That don't matter will be wrong and we'll argue.

[A]

What you talking about? I'm holding on to loopholes that don't exist. You got to just give it up now.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

I love you, baby.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

What else we need? What else we need out there?

[F]

Anybody watch the Lamar Odom do?

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[B]

I did not.

[A]

Not at all. Not at all. Not in the slightest. I mean, I damn near cut the teaser off.

[F]

It was. It was good, but it wasn't much new information. It was just telling the story. And it was definitely a Kardashian production.

[C]

I heard that he took 12 dick pills in a day or something like that.

[F]

He took 12 gas station dick pills? Yes.

[A]

Want to be is so bad. What's the record? Oh, man. Getting a migraine. That's what this idiot.

[F]

That's what they said the overdose was from.

[A]

From the dick pills.

[F]

I mean, he was doing other too.

[A]

Oh, about to say.

[F]

Yeah, it Wasn't just that the mix

[E]

of dick pills and crack.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Hell of a potion.

[F]

I think it was just coke, but, yeah, no coke.

[E]

I just. Stephen A used to say he. Lamar Odom smokes crack, so I always

[A]

thought it was true.

[B]

The weed.

[E]

Right. Maybe it's not.

[B]

Got it.

[E]

But I can't see me watching the

[A]

doctor or reading a memoir.

[E]

Watching that dog. I'd read his memoir. I'd read his memoir. Speaking of NBA players, y' all see Dwight Howard is no signed to the wwe, is he? Yeah.

[C]

As a commentator or as a wrestler?

[E]

I assumed as a wrestler. You saw that, right? No one saw this?

[F]

No.

[E]

Just like an April Fool's.

[F]

Everybody been an April Fool's joke, buddy.

[A]

Mark, what the hell are you talking. That would be hilarious. What, though?

[E]

Maybe I'm tripping. Maybe I'm tripping.

[F]

That might have been April Fools.

[A]

And that being newsworthy is even like, look at Mark. Did you see Dwight Howard?

[E]

Yeah. He signs multi million dollar. Wait. Oh, was it April Fool's?

[C]

It was the Wizards.

[E]

That's funny. Yeah, it was April Fool's.

[A]

You must have been. You must have really been in that book.

[E]

See, this is why I don't like Frank.

[F]

So it's jcole.

[A]

Going.

[F]

Going to the. What do they call it?

[A]

The.

[F]

The Monkey Kings of Heng.

[B]

Excuse me?

[F]

That's what the name of the team you signed to.

[A]

Yeah, but you can't say. You can't say the Monkey Kings. It's Chinese. Still the Nanjin Monkey Kings.

[F]

It doesn't seem right.

[A]

Hey, I didn't get to be the Monkey Kings. Wait, yo, the Chinese, I tell y', all, they. All right.

[B]

That one.

[A]

And we back. Are back.

[E]

Now, speaking of sports, I'll tell you one thing that pissed me off today. I did have a cause. If you talk about a cause. I got one today that's pissed me off. LeBron James pissed me off today.

[C]

What did he do now?

[B]

The Memphis.

[E]

The Memphis. Yeah. Did you. Did you see? So there's a clip of him. He's golfing with some very rich people. People, some billionaires and such. And he was basically ranting about Memphis, saying. Basically it's a. I don't want to put words in his mouth. He was trash in Memphis, though, as a city, and was saying the NBA needs to move the team to Nashville. He complained about the hotel. He complained about the city. Now, to be fair, he's not the first person to do that. There's actually a reel going around the Internet right now of every NBA player trashing the Hotel at the Memphis hotels. So I don't want to make this like it's just LeBron, but LeBron as a prominent. The most prominent voice in the NBA and one of the most prominent voices in sports, standing on a public platform and advocating for Memphis, which is such an important. A black city.

[D]

Black.

[C]

Important city.

[E]

Black businesses. One of the homes of the civil rights struggle where Martin Luther King was killed. Actually, the anniversary of that is today.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

It is. Like to.

[A]

Martin couldn't.

[E]

Who to advocate. To advocate to move to Nashville. To me, is. Is whack.

[B]

You could have just said, you better. What? Build a better hotel.

[E]

And that's my point. Y' all got. Thank you.

[B]

I would have already started to build

[D]

a hotel right at that point.

[E]

Right. And. And. And. And to do you. And to use your resource and platform for that instead of saying, hey, let's invest in Memphis.

[D]

That might be the play.

[B]

Unless I'm invested in Memphis.

[D]

That might be the play. That might be the play.

[E]

Didn't sound like it. I mean, we.

[B]

I. I mean, I'm invested in Nashville. I'm saying.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[E]

Excuse me. Oh, I might invest in the play. Might be invested in Nashville. I wouldn't shock me at all.

[B]

I might be invested in Nashville. Hey, let's get this team over here.

[E]

Which is fucked up. You know what I mean? And the thing about Memphis is, to be clear, Memphis has been divested from on purpose in Tennessee. Memphis is a city that gets neglected. It's a city that doesn't get the resources. It's a city that gets shitted on all the time. It's the city that's been punished honestly, for being a birthplace of civil rights.

[A]

Is that why they're getting punished?

[E]

It's one of the many reasons. Yeah. You see the same thing in Mississippi with Jackson. Jackson, you know, and so when this is happening, to see our prominent black stars pile on and shit on Memphis is not okay.

[B]

You know, B.B.

[C]

king used to live in Memphis.

[B]

And Pooh Shiesty.

[F]

Look at that. Full circle, full circle.

[B]

Just putting it out there.

[D]

I think that's a part of the play.

[E]

Yeah. That might be the reason why, like,

[D]

I would be like, yo, well, now to bring up the city of Memphis, I'm willing to invest amount of money in the city and let me name this hotel the James Hotel. Full of amenities, et cetera, et cetera. And I'll pump XYZ amount of money around the stadium and all these other areas. That's what niggas do.

[C]

But to play Devil's advocate. What if LeBron just doesn't like Memphis?

[A]

Yo, y', all, do y' all hear yourselves?

[E]

What?

[B]

Why the would LeBron do that?

[E]

Yeah, I don't think he's doing that.

[A]

Why the fuck would LeBron say, hey, you know what? Instead of just this one simple solution, why don't we invest in Memphis, Bring Tom Brady and everybody over here, build the hotel, build the businesses around. Why would he do that in Memphis specifically, is what I'm asking?

[D]

I'm answering you. The same reason Ratner did it in Brooklyn.

[A]

Tell me.

[D]

Brooklyn was, by a lot of people's perception, a shithole. It's not very different. And it's a Rothschild thing that says, yo, where there's blood in the streets, guess what you do. You buy property.

[A]

And so now I'm not against the concept. I'm saying, why would he do that in Memphis specifically?

[D]

The same reason most people invest money, to make money, to make a return on your money.

[A]

Why would Memphis be at the top of the list list if he was down with y' all playing?

[F]

Because you could buy cheap is what he said.

[D]

You can buy cheap in a prominent city. You could turn that city around and have it come up. You'll look like the superhero that put a bunch of money in this urban, up black city. And now you helping the blacks.

[A]

Is there a Grammy for that?

[D]

No, it's some spanky for it, though, and some recognition, which a lot of these athletes, I don't know LeBron specifically, but a lot of these athletes be looking, looking for some notoriety and some more accolades to be pro black.

[A]

I'm with y'. All cause I'm just awesome.

[E]

Don't say y', all, because I don't, I, I don't.

[D]

No, I'm saying I get the logic. I'm not saying that that is what he is doing.

[E]

I'm just up.

[D]

That could be a play.

[E]

And it's like, I, I, I think he just did something up and just

[D]

spoke on a up a black city in a up way.

[A]

Because your point is his voice is too loud. Even if you feel that way, you

[E]

sitting in a room, room full of white billionaires, clown talk, shitting on one of the few black cities in the NBA, like, in terms of, like, demographic, you know what I mean? Talking about, let's move and go to Nashville. I mean, come on. Everything's in Nashville. He even said if I had been

[C]

drafted, he wouldn't play.

[E]

The only way I would have played in Memphis, if I got drafted, and then I might have done An Eli Manning and not shown up. So he's. This doesn't sound like somebody who's planning to invest in Memphis. It sounds like somebody who's shitting on Memphis.

[C]

Some niggas just don't like certain cities, though, to be fair.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that you should be able to have that right.

[E]

The advocate for them to lose their NBA team when that's one of the few sources of revenue for a poorest city is crazy.

[D]

I agree with that.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. If he came out here and said, I'm not fuck Newark, he's right. You know what I'm saying? Like, it has an impact. That's what I'm saying. Memphis is already being neglected. It's already being abandoned. It's already being shut down and to. And it's a wonderful city with amazing tradition, amazing history, and to watch. And one of the things they're holding onto is this NBA team. And so for him to say, I want them to lose their NBA team. Cause the hotels are shitty.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[F]

That's. Melita shit.

[E]

For sure. Yeah, just. Then build a hotel. Build a James hotel. Yeah. If all y' all NBA players that hate Memphis hotels, invest in one. Build a great hotel.

[D]

No, invest in a few.

[E]

A few, right. Or build one. Whatever you want. You know what I mean? Or don't. You know what I mean?

[D]

And then a Starbucks and then a Whole Foods, and then every single other fucking thing that comes along with gentrification. If you really wanna build up these towns.

[B]

And then you know what's gonna happen once that happened? The people gonna say, yo, y' all came here, y'. All. Y' all priced us outta here. Y' all don't give a fuck about the community because we can't afford shit here because we're. You know, you can't win that way either.

[A]

Oh, you know how you can invest

[E]

in a city, though? You can do things to make a city better other than just make a shitload of money. Right? And you can still make a shitload of money if that's your thing. You don't necessarily have to choose between those two things in this example. Right? I mean, like, I'm with you. Some people will never be happy. But I know what will make Memphis unhappy is if they lose another major source of revenue.

[B]

That is true.

[E]

I know it seems like there's enough

[F]

money for someone to just build. It doesn't have to be a hotel, but some sort of lodging for NBA Players when they come down.

[A]

Right.

[D]

You can build a dope ass hotel with amenities. I'm sure the land in Memphis, no disrespect to Memphis. I'm sure the land ain't the highest, you know what I'm saying? So if you think that the NFL players don't have proper accommodations, again, I see that as an opportunity in which to make money.

[A]

Yeah, I would want to hear from LeBron James, of all people, as a player, as someone who has to visit the city, I would like to hear his thoughts on having to come and play in Memphis. But that's kind of where the buck stops, which is why I think it's unfair that his name's being dragged in this. The decision to move a team is not going to be on LeBron James.

[E]

No, his name isn't being dragged. He introduced, no one was mentioning him. He, he, he.

[A]

Well, I know the clip.

[D]

I wouldn't say that either, Joe. That he got a lot of power, bro.

[E]

He.

[A]

A lot of power.

[D]

And if he. And now some other people might jump on board to Mark's point, Mark said other players have complained about the accommodations in Memphis. That could be one of the deciding factors. To be like, yo, you know what? We out of here.

[A]

It was. Cities have lost teams for less. We lost ours.

[D]

Not for less. Ours was just a temporary spot in anyway. What you talking about the Nets in, in Newark or the Nets?

[A]

The Nets. Oh, that wasn't a temporary.

[D]

They didn't want to build them another stadium. That's politics.

[A]

They built a new stadium.

[B]

The problem with the Net.

[A]

They built a new stadium.

[D]

Basketball.

[A]

No, but they clearly had the money to build a stadium.

[B]

The problem with them was, was.

[D]

Was transportation logistics is up where.

[B]

Where the metal land.

[D]

One way in and one way out.

[B]

Terrible. That's why Barclay works. It's public transportation that gets right there. Madison Square Garden always works because of location. The Meadowlands literally sits in the middle of a swamp.

[A]

There's also a lot of people that believe that Memphis should have never had a team.

[E]

And that's fine. Right? And I, I would feel less.

[A]

I don't think I'm on Memphis, but.

[D]

No, but, but we here now. So let's do the best we can to Mark's point to keep this city. That might be one of the only bright spots in this dilapidated city. I mean keep this stadium and this team and one might be the only bright spots in this dilapidated city afloat. But what if on it.

[A]

But what if it's not a bright spot in business?

[D]

We don't know that because we don't own a team.

[E]

That's why I said.

[D]

I don't know we don't own a team.

[A]

That's why I said, what if.

[E]

If it's bad for business and they have to make a business decision, I can't get mad at that.

[B]

True.

[E]

What I. But we don't need the most famous athlete, Famous black athlete in the world shitting on a black publicly. I'm with you to do that because the stakes are bigger than basketball. Even if. Lose the team, get the team, whatever. There's other stakes attached. When you look at what happens in Baltimore, Chicago, Memphis, black cities often become a metaphor for everything that's wrong with America. When they say, look at Chicago, they talking about, look at niggas.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[E]

And so when you start repeating the narrative that black people don't deserve beauty, black people don't deserve joy. Black people don't turn entertainment, blood. Black people don't deserve recreation. Black people don't. That goes beyond sports.

[D]

Sports.

[E]

And that's why I think it's an irresponsible.

[D]

That's why, to Mark's point, Whole Foods won't really invest in our cities because they do studies. Starbucks wouldn't. Y' all know. Y' all crack on me, but I used to work at Subway. So before Subway places a Subway, they do studies on the demo. They do studies on the median income in the region. They do all of that shit to determine if a Subway can go to. The same thing is done with a McDonald's and Starbucks and all of those people. And one of the things was, yo, you can't put Starbucks in black neighborhoods.

[A]

I believe everything you're saying, but a Subway could go there. No, we're talking about Whole Food, Starbucks, Apple Stores. Y' all laugh. You know, he's Borg. The Subway can go. No, no matter the analytics. I talk about Starbucks, you.

[D]

I'm saying that all of these companies,

[A]

what city Subway think they too good for. That's a very good question. I will smack the out of Subway.

[E]

You act those.

[D]

They won't put Subways in certain areas.

[A]

We gotta call them up, we gotta fix them up.

[B]

He's stupid.

[A]

We gotta protest. I'm dead ass.

[D]

But no, so that they just feel like we not worthy of certain things. And I think that's up. But we should correct that. Especially when your voice is as powerful as LeBron. Yeah, I'm with him.

[A]

Yeah, I'm with him. He's right. You did it, Mark.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

You did It. What else we got?

[F]

Y' all see, Luis CK Is coming back to Netflix.

[E]

It's about time.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We are Lucy people.

[A]

Super Louis CK people.

[E]

I was like.

[A]

Like him. This whole room.

[E]

I was about to be stunned.

[A]

Wait, what? Did they be that?

[C]

No, I like him.

[A]

Yeah. No, LK is him. And I'm not. I was never with his cancellation.

[F]

Me either.

[A]

I was never with his cancellation. Disagreed with it all the way.

[E]

Word.

[F]

Super inappropriate, but not cancellation.

[A]

It wasn't super inappropriate.

[F]

Power dynamic. Reasons. That's the only reason why.

[A]

Oh,

[F]

that's the only reason why that.

[A]

Yo, yo, get out of there, dog. Get out of there. Yeah, get out of there. No, that's the one that's gonna always be right. Hey, he was powerful, but I'm with you.

[E]

That.

[F]

I mean, he asked for, and they gave him consent.

[A]

That was the point.

[F]

Like, that was what always was super weird to me about it.

[A]

Yeah. And then she reneged on the consent

[F]

after, like, way after.

[A]

After the fact.

[F]

Not, like, halfway through even or something. You know what I mean?

[A]

How much more courteous do you want the guy to be? Be? But. All right, great. So he's coming to Netflix?

[F]

Yeah, he's been going for five years. He's been.

[A]

And he's one of the funniest.

[B]

Doing it on his own.

[F]

Yeah, he's been doing independently.

[A]

Kicking ass. Yeah, sure.

[B]

He got a lot.

[C]

Do we have a date for it?

[F]

May 5th. I want to say I could be wrong about the exact date, but it's in May during the Netflix comedian.

[B]

Oh, Netflix is a joke.

[F]

That's the one. Yeah.

[C]

He's a funny comedian. He's underrated.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Because he hasn't been able to push it out for five years.

[A]

A funny comedian is an understatement. Louis CK Is genius. Yeah, he's one of them. He's one of them.

[C]

Is he, like, your favorite of all time?

[A]

No.

[E]

No.

[F]

But he's funny.

[C]

Is he in a conversation?

[A]

Yes, to me, he's in my top 10.

[E]

Current.

[A]

For sure.

[E]

He's in my top 10.

[A]

Currently. Currently. Currently.

[E]

He's in my top 20 all time.

[C]

Who's your favorite?

[E]

That's a tough one. It depends on the day. But I'll tell you who's up there. I mean, Pryor's up there. Cosby's up there. Eddie Murphy's up there. Red Fox is up there. You know what I mean? They're all in the conversation. Chappelle's up there.

[F]

Hey, Mark, as our resident political correspondent, do you have any information on Kristi? Noem's, husband's tits.

[A]

The.

[C]

That's a hell of a pivot, man.

[E]

That was a sharp pivot. And yet totally o'. Brien. I do not.

[F]

Okay.

[E]

I do not. Although she shits were sitting T's and peas for her. She's.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

You know?

[E]

No, she's jobless.

[D]

Interesting. Us as blacks, bro.

[A]

What?

[D]

Us as blacks, we just got mad empathy.

[E]

I'm joking when I say T's and peas, you know, I don't actually give a fuck.

[B]

We just, we have empathy.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know what's happening.

[D]

One of the mean homeboy that was

[A]

putting that on, right?

[F]

Yeah, he had the, he had, he had the rack. He had the inflatable rack.

[A]

Yeah. He putting that on.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Somebody that stands.

[A]

And he wasn't a good looking girl at all.

[F]

No. And the tits were kind of like a little, A little lopsided.

[A]

What? Yeah, he look like if Brock Leslar had a look like Barty Rubble. Yeah, he looked a mess.

[E]

Mess.

[A]

What did you talk about? No, that's just us, like Dolph Lundin in drag.

[D]

That's funny, bro. But do Christy Gnome and actually Pam Bondi.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Both ousted by, by Big T. We

[F]

got clip big tits.

[E]

That part.

[D]

No, they both have been basically. Bondi got fired. Christy Gnome got reassigned.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Right.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Which is, which is a nice turn.

[E]

War and fire. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And replace with somebody.

[E]

The guy he actually wanted. Yeah.

[C]

He tried to frame it like it was amicable.

[D]

Yeah, man. Cash up next.

[F]

That's what they're saying.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I read something like that.

[E]

He's throwing everybody under the bus.

[A]

Cash.

[F]

Trump, trump.

[D]

All y' all ain't performing. Peace out.

[E]

And the thing is, they're doing the exact job he asked them to do.

[D]

Work and, and riding.

[E]

Taking and taking all the bullets, yo.

[D]

Riding like yo, not.

[F]

And they were completely unqualified to begin with. So, like, this isn't. It shouldn't have been a surprise.

[E]

It shouldn't be a surprise. I mean, Gnome, I think, earned it the most just because, not only because of her policy, but she actually didn't carry it very well in those hearings.

[F]

Not like her husband.

[E]

Yeah, true.

[D]

They roasted them like, yo, I, I.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

They take pleasure in watching them ask them questions and they can't answer and get to squirming.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So in the meantime, if she gets clipped, do we not have an attorney General or somebody already?

[E]

They replace somebody immediately.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, dude.

[C]

Already. But those are the person I get

[B]

confirmed and they on roast.

[E]

What is the, what is the pro I don't think attorney general gets a congressional no, they do. They do. Because I remember when George Bush's woman they said no to because she was so unqualified. But normally it's a rubber stamp. That's the only time I've ever seen when George W. Bush try to get his personal attorney hired. No, but that was for the Supreme Court. No, no, no. Yeah. Attorney General. There's no. I don't think there's a Senate confirmation. You could double check that. I'm not 100%, but I don't think so. Yeah, I'm not 100% on that, but I don't think so.

[A]

We'll be right back with that fact. Take your time. The phone died. Oh, I know. You sitting here. Great time. You sitting here, like.

[F]

Did you guys catch any of the latest Lizzo interviews?

[A]

Oh, no. What I miss?

[F]

Well, she's sober, so congratulations.

[A]

Big was on.

[F]

She also revealed that she didn't lose her virginity till she was 30 after her Grammy wins. The big album. The Flutes.

[A]

Nice.

[F]

The whole nine.

[A]

Nice, nice, nice. Good time to lose.

[E]

Did you say why?

[F]

I think she was saving herself for Grammys.

[B]

Took.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Celibate.

[E]

I just try to figure out, like, why that moment.

[F]

Yeah. I think she wanted to get success, you know, first.

[A]

Yeah. What better time?

[B]

She reached the top of the mountain.

[F]

She wasn't even thinking about it.

[B]

She said, wow, just happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm glad she did it. When she felt it was the right time. Society often pressures people to have sex way too young.

[F]

That's true.

[C]

That's true.

[E]

So if she waited until she was 30 and she's happy with that choice, that's great.

[F]

I agree.

[B]

She's fine.

[A]

I believe everything she said. That. But if that's true, then where did she learn the bananas move that she was doing?

[F]

It does come call into question some of that behavior. Yeah.

[A]

Remember the. What happened to them chicks?

[E]

What was she doing with the banana that.

[A]

In the strip club in London when she. Power Dynamics.

[D]

She's making her.

[A]

When she was making her staff put the bananas in their. And. And other. And other strippers.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

All that stuff.

[E]

Oh. From the law. Was that the lawsuit?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. That's some freaky virgin.

[E]

She watch. She's a flaust.

[F]

She is. Salute to Lizzo, man.

[A]

Yeah. All right, I'm out of there. I'm leaving this one. Congrats to Lizo. Congrats away. Have.

[B]

Have a.

[A]

Have a hop on it. Have a party, why don't you? Is Your busy.

[B]

There you go.

[F]

Yeah, we never got to the. The B dot and Ray Daniels. Smoke, man.

[A]

Oh, boy.

[C]

Is it smoke?

[A]

It was.

[F]

There was a fire on my timeline all week long podcast. You popping up a different podcast. He's popping up a different.

[A]

I'm over. I'm on Ray side because you picked on him.

[E]

Did I?

[A]

I thought you did.

[C]

You mentioned his. I never mentioned his name, by the way. You mentioned his name.

[A]

You didn't keep it? No. You said as soon as his name got boy. No, bro, I don't with him. I hate him. I hate everything about him.

[C]

I just said I didn't like his rap opinions and he responded on his platform and he started off saying that it started because I ain't like his green Timbs because he had on like colored Timbs in a comet. And I believe that if you wear like colored Timbs, you probably have bad taste when it comes to music. That was my correlation.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

How much can people that never met each other or don't know each other hate each other?

[F]

That's a very, very good question.

[C]

I'm just saying. I just thought it was a taste thing.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So unsolicited. A mutual colleague friend of ours earlier this week, after that interview dropped, put us on a group chat.

[A]

Oh, I love when that happens.

[C]

I said, what the fuck is this? So the person said, b dot, Ray, formal introduction. I was mad because I didn't ask for that. So he said what he said and I responded to what?

[E]

Wait, what did he say?

[C]

I don't want to reveal that, but I'll say what I revealed because it's

[E]

tough to say what you responded without saying what I said.

[C]

I think that's. That's kind of classless because sure, you know, I'll say.

[A]

Not just firing off on somebody for no reason.

[F]

Unsolicited, on the biggest podcast.

[A]

Yeah, that's not that.

[F]

He's also a friend of.

[A]

Yeah, word.

[C]

So I'll say. This is what I said. I said, you sound emotional about this. It's not that serious. I just think your rap opinions are uninformed. God bless. And that was it. And he responded after that. And I guess we just leave it at that.

[F]

I think we need the. We need the 1v1 man.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[F]

It's time for some content.

[E]

But in retrospect, do you think you could have handled it differently?

[C]

I didn't do anything wrong. I just said I think your rap opinions aren't good.

[E]

Well, no, you started by saying he's not your brand of vodka.

[C]

He's not.

[E]

I don't know. So that goes from, look, you don't know him.

[D]

How you know he ain't your brand of honor?

[C]

Because of what he says about rap music and hip hop culture. It's not aligned with my views. So I'm like, I don't think you and I would mix well. That's all. And some of the comments that he said, he said he saw me at a party. I was at this party. It was a YouTube party. I was there for six, seven hours. I never saw him. And I have pictures, I have footage, I have meta glasses footage. I never saw him there. And then he also said that I was using his name to come up, and that's probably his asinine titan. That's not true. He said asinine takes bought his mama house and stuff like that. And I'm like, do whatever makes you happy, bro. But I'm not using your name to come up. I never even said your name. So.

[A]

So. So who wins the hypothetical 1v1 between y'? All?

[C]

I mean, come on.

[F]

1.

[E]

Do I have to say it?

[A]

I mean, I don't think it's just written in stone. I don't think there's a conf over here.

[E]

We just supposed to assume.

[F]

No, you got to have an opinion off, man. That's the only. That's the only way to solve this.

[B]

But it's not.

[C]

It's not. It's not serious. It's not. I never attacked him personally.

[F]

I'm not saying you should fight. I'm saying you should do. We should find some opinion and.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

See who gives the better one, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I purposely never attacked anyone personally. I made it about your profession.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all.

[A]

And in the 1v1, you know, B Dot background is a journalist. Ray, get animated. Reg. It's a hard. It's a hard out Now.

[F]

B Dot turned up a little bit too, though.

[A]

Hold up, BD Be trying to do all that smooth, esthetician face. I don't know. I don't know. We gotta see it. And I offered to set it up, but. Shout out to Ray Daniels. Shout out to B Dot. I love you both, even if y' all hate each other.

[C]

I don't hate nobody. I don't hate nobody. I just want to be clear. I never even met this guy. I know he has, like a really big personality online and, you know, that's cool.

[A]

I'm getting out of here. Cause you're doing a lot of passive aggressive, sneaky diss type stuff to somebody I.

[C]

He has a vociferous personality, that's all.

[A]

All right, what else we got?

[F]

College words.

[A]

I didn't even know he was reciprocal. You got a reciprous personality. All right, let's see new music. Anybody see get a chance to look at Kanye at the stadium? I didn't.

[F]

I saw like screenshots. I was trying to find the actual, like CDQ doesn't exist in my search. But the stage show looked incredible.

[B]

Yeah, I saw a fan that was there and recorded. Recorded the entire show.

[F]

Yeah, I think I saw that same one. It was horrible audio.

[B]

Audio was horrible.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

But he was. He was further up in the seats, so I actually appreciated the view because I got to see the entire stage, the entire set. And Kanye puts on a hell of a show. If you've ever been like, Kanye's probably my top, maybe number one. My greatest concert I've ever been to was Glow in the dark tour.

[F]

I wish I would have went to that one.

[B]

But I mean, he did damn near a two hour set. The records from this new album, they were definitely made for the stadium. Like I said, sure, you can hear it. They rang off the crowd. I mean, I need this show to come to metlife.

[A]

That's all.

[B]

I kept watching.

[D]

And it was a cell phone.

[B]

And that was a cell phone.

[D]

And even a cell phone footage.

[B]

Even a cell phone. Yes.

[F]

Yeah, that stage alone. Alone was. I want to go see that.

[B]

Yeah, I need to see that.

[F]

I want to see Kanye rapping on

[B]

top of the world.

[F]

Even if I don't like the songs that much from the new album.

[B]

This again, I don't have to like the song.

[A]

They do.

[B]

Some of them shits sound really good live.

[E]

For sure.

[B]

They're made for that. You can tell they're made for that environment.

[C]

For sure.

[E]

People were watching this and saying like, yo, he might be a tough out for Versus for anybody.

[A]

Yeah, they took it a lot further.

[E]

No, no, specifically, he'd wash hov. That was one of the examples they gave in the verses after watching.

[B]

Is that not.

[F]

I think he's a tough out for anybody.

[E]

No, he's definitely tough out for any

[D]

consensus that he's a tough out for anybody.

[E]

But they. But it got to like, he might like be dominating niggas in versus.

[F]

He would dominate a lot of people.

[D]

He would dominate. He would dominate most.

[E]

And I know we can't. We went Hovinger earlier, but does he beat Hovinda versus?

[C]

No.

[B]

Is his production included in the Versus straight?

[F]

Yes, it is.

[B]

Then, yes, he beats Hoven the versus.

[C]

He's talking about production.

[B]

That's cheat code, Case.

[D]

He doesn't produce. And I'm Kanye like lead songs.

[C]

I don't think Jay Z loses to Kanye West.

[D]

I think it's a. I think it's a personal.

[A]

I don't either.

[D]

I think it's a personal preference. I don't think he just going to beat him. Even if you add the production, you talking about 16 albums this could pull from. You get what I'm saying?

[E]

So production makes it tough.

[B]

It does.

[D]

But again, it's just. It's still 20 songs.

[B]

It can't be 20.

[D]

It's not a body of work. It's 20 songs. So you go get your hottest 20 that you think are it. Whether production, whatever the case may be, Jay Z gonna go get his 20. I'm not saying Kanye won't win. I'm saying washing and all that. I think it just comes down to the listener and the audience and what their preference is.

[B]

And a lot of verses is performance. We watch people get up there. How you act, how you emcee this, how you shoot at the other person. So Kanye get on this cocky shit and start saying, and I made this for you, and start playing those bangers.

[A]

It could get ugly.

[B]

Barbara.

[A]

But he wouldn't talk to old like that on. On that stage, man.

[B]

He said worse.

[E]

We don't know what he would say, though.

[A]

Yeah, he might get that.

[D]

I don't give a if you made it. I put the words to it, and I made it through this.

[C]

Kanye did lose a versus the Swiss beats.

[B]

He did.

[C]

I was there for that. I was there for that.

[B]

He was. He did. Swiss smoked him. But I think that kind of fueled the way he makes his music today. Because what does Swiss say on that stage?

[D]

You.

[B]

Those are cute. But I make anthems and all them records started ringing off.

[A]

Where I see that.

[B]

I saw that.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Let's not do that. That's the take whole name out of this.

[B]

But he was also going up against another producer.

[E]

Yeah, that's a producer battle, but that's a rapper.

[C]

I don't think nobody beats Jay Z, man. Kanye's close. Drake is close.

[E]

I'm gonna say Drake.

[D]

Yeah, Drake is close.

[E]

I take Jay Z over Drake because. But I'm old. I think that. I think a lot of the jay Z, Drake vs. Depends on who's in the audience.

[B]

I'm taking Drake, Drake over Jay Z in A versus yes. I'll say it.

[E]

Dep. I don't. I think ho wins, but I That's tough. But I don't think a person who says Drake is wrong. I think it goes down to your generation. I think for a younger demo, the shit that's gonna move them is gonna be different than the shit that move us. For me, nobody beats Jay Z in the verses that I can think of. Kanye's probably the only person in that who would, to me, be a tough out for him.

[B]

I still think Hovi is the greatest rapper ever. But when you getting up there 20 bangers hits.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, Drake can get him out of here. And yes, Kanye can get him out

[C]

of here is crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I think Future get him out of here.

[B]

No, I don't think I said futures are hard out for anybody. That's what I said.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

I said he can get. He's a hard out. He is for anybody. Future's future's a problem.

[A]

All of the people that are in the legacy discography conversation all feel like nobody. Nobody can stand on a stage with me. So you'll never see it and it

[B]

should feel like that.

[A]

True.

[B]

I'm not mad at it.

[A]

Some people that. She's on that list.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

She's like, I'll just play. I'll just play the first album I play Western 401 and walk away.

[A]

What's that list? Let me get that list out the way.

[D]

Rappers or artists?

[A]

Both. Mary.

[B]

Mariah.

[A]

Mariah. Beyonce.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Huh?

[E]

Janet Jackson.

[A]

Janet. That's where the buck stops for the women for me. Oh, Rihanna. Rihanna and Madonna. Yeah.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

You about to do this to Madonna? Hope not.

[E]

I'm the one of the world's biggest Madonna fans.

[A]

So who you. Who you Omen then?

[E]

I don't know if Rihanna's untouchable in A versus.

[D]

You're out of your mind.

[E]

And I love Rihanna.

[D]

Rihanna needs to be higher up.

[B]

That list.

[F]

You.

[D]

I'm mad you got to.

[E]

Of the names you just said. I think she.

[A]

She's.

[E]

She would be like, I.

[A]

But she's in it. I don't know.

[F]

Rihanna, Madonna, like in the. I actually recently found like this chart of top selling artists of all time. And there's like the Elvis, Beatles, Michael Jackson. And in that same category is Rihanna, Madonna, Led Zeppelin and Queen. I think.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

These are people that it's Shut the up.

[E]

I just have. I would just have. And maybe. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would have Beyonce and who else? We say Mariah a little like, This is the tier.

[F]

This is the shut the up badge.

[A]

Those are the women.

[C]

That's monolithus.

[A]

The guys would probably be hov. Yay. Drake, Wayne.

[D]

Oh, you just hung rapper Stevie.

[A]

Stevie Wonder, of course.

[F]

Mike, obviously.

[A]

Mike. Of course.

[B]

He who shall not Be Named.

[E]

Are we talking dead rappers, though?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And that's it.

[E]

We talking about.

[D]

You said Jay, Drake, Wayne.

[E]

Yay. I hope.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Future's kind of in that.

[B]

Future goals in there.

[A]

I put future in there. No, I don't put Kendrick.

[B]

I don't put Kendrick in there.

[A]

No. He got 20 songs, but I just don't think them. I think you could get them.

[E]

Yeah, I think you can get.

[F]

I don't know.

[C]

That's tough.

[F]

See, the problem I have with that is that, like, my wife, who is not necessarily a die Hard Kendrick fan, when we went to that, the popup, she was like, I came out here not expecting to know a song, and I knew the entire, you know, hour and a half.

[C]

You could add Jeezy into that mix, too.

[A]

No.

[C]

You don't think so?

[E]

I don't see it. Respectfully, not love Jeezy.

[B]

Y' all know Jeezy's my favorite.

[C]

You don't think jeezy got like 20?

[B]

He has absolutely.

[E]

I mean, a lot of people got 20. Snoop got 20 bangers. But it's. The question is like.

[B]

But we're talking about that untouchable tier.

[A]

Like, if we're leaving that tier. I got Rick Ross's on top.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So he's like, that's the S tier and, like, right below there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I would think. What else? What else, what else, what else? What else? What else is happening? So Kanye at the stadium. I didn't see it. I don't know if he'll show it to me.

[B]

I know I've been saying, I don't think a rapper could do it.

[A]

It.

[B]

He could do it.

[F]

I think he could do it.

[B]

He could do it.

[A]

Do what?

[B]

Stadium tour.

[E]

Stadium tour.

[B]

Solo stadium tour.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I wish you would announce it.

[C]

I saw.

[B]

I need tickets.

[C]

I don't know if it's an old clip or a new clip, but he was mentioning his songs. He was like, super Bowl. He could do these records. Like, he was mention, like, Homecoming power and going on.

[B]

He has the.

[E]

And I thought about.

[C]

I was like, you know what? Kanye could do a Super Bowl.

[B]

No, he can't.

[F]

Yes, he could. Both outside of personality.

[B]

That's why. You mean not talking about having the records? Absolutely.

[D]

Not in his sleep.

[E]

He meets the criteria. But it's just like Isaiah on the Dream Team.

[B]

I think Kanye could do the super

[C]

bowl in his sleep. Do you think he could still do it now? Like he's been forgiven, Right.

[E]

He's doing stadiums. You don't think he ain't been Netflix.

[B]

The problem is predictable.

[F]

No, the problem is the person.

[D]

Jay Z's that came home of the.

[F]

I don't think HOV has forgiven him.

[E]

Hov will never forget.

[F]

Know if I would do, bro.

[E]

I don't. If I'm whole. I don't even. I don't want to be in some. Exactly.

[B]

Hope could lose the super bowl and. And we have another whoever up there.

[E]

Yay is not. Yay.

[B]

Is not touching that stage. He's too unpredictable with the live mic in front of the world.

[E]

It's not just that. That's.

[A]

No, that's.

[E]

That's a big P. That's reason number two.

[A]

No, that's reason number one. No, no, it's not.

[D]

It's too many investors. And that's not reason number dollars at the super bowl that we are. We are not getting the super bowl halftime show show. He's unpredictable. We don't know what's going to come out his mouth that could potentially lose us ad money.

[E]

I agree with you. But I'm saying the reason. I'm saying that's reason number two.

[B]

What's one?

[E]

I don't think no matter how many rabbis he meets and apologizes that he will ever be forgiven. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but that's different than he's alive

[A]

sound a little better than me. You know, Take his word.

[E]

No, I'm saying it's a separate issue. I'm saying even if. I think. I think even if. For. Even if he had never done that.

[D]

That was my point. I ain't want to phrase it like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No, I want to say how you said it. The people behind the marketing dollars will never in a zillion years.

[F]

Their owners asked for the shit. He got booked for the shit in England. Yeah.

[B]

Wireless.

[F]

Wireless festival.

[E]

And they should be. And to be clear. Cause I don't want to. Cause it could play into an anti Semitic narrative of like, Jewish power. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that people are reasonably holding him accountable and they're not doing what black people do, which is forgive people.

[D]

Forgive everybody.

[E]

I think it's reasonable to say you did some shit. I'm offended by it. And I'm not. I'm not going to ruin your life. I'm also not going to give you these bonuses. The super bowl, like the fucking super bowl real quick.

[B]

What I'm saying is that they go hand in hand because it's the same unpredictability that led to that.

[E]

Yes. That's what I think they're wanting.

[B]

So it's the same shit.

[E]

I'm saying if he had never said that, the anti Semitic shit, I think they still don't let him on because he's too unpredictable.

[B]

Exactly.

[E]

And I'm saying even if he stopped being unpredictable, I don't think you can stop. He would not be forgiven for that.

[C]

He hasn't atoned for that yet.

[E]

Yeah, I don't think. I think he has.

[D]

He can't.

[E]

I think some people are like, again, I accept your apology, but I'm never gonna forget.

[D]

And I respect that. I don't even think we look at this as genuine.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

We just calling a roll up, yo. Us being us. We just forgiving people, period. But I don't think that most of us even think that he was sincere in his apologies.

[B]

He was doing what he had to do.

[E]

Do.

[B]

Cost of doing business at that point.

[E]

I believe that letter he wrote was the Wall Street Journal. I believe that that letter was sincere. Even though I'm sure he had help and all of that. I think. I believe he's going through mental health. I believe he's coming to terms with it. I also think he's just an asshole. I think all those things that happen the same time, I believe it. And. And part of why I listen to Bully. In fact, maybe the only reason I listened to Bully was because of that letter. It made me say, all right, I'll. He's on a journey. You know what I mean? I'll at least listen to that. Listen to the record.

[A]

But would y' all watch if he did the Alternative Super Bowl?

[E]

No, no, no. I mean, I would. I would. I watched. I watched it this year.

[D]

I think they get bad views. I think they get bad views.

[E]

Yeah. If I watch it with Erica Kirk, I gotta watch it with Kanye. It can't be no worse.

[A]

Holy shit.

[B]

Kid Rocks.

[E]

Kid Rock, all of them. But when Erica Kirk walked out, I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

What we got in. In new music.

[F]

It was a fairly quiet week.

[B]

Couple drops.

[F]

My man Marlon Craft dropped a great album called the Internet. Kill. Killed the Neighborhood. That came out early, which I always love. That was like a Thursday.

[B]

A little bit of time, right?

[F]

Give me a little time. I can actually listen to it. That's a really great project. J1 dropped the project. The North Star shout out to Jay.

[A]

Let's go J1 let's go Jaywan.

[B]

I listened to Swae Lee dropped his album Same Difference.

[F]

Oh, I didn't know that drop.

[B]

Yeah. I forgot how many songs it is on there. But I want to say the first five or six I was really feeling. And then he went too hard into the like pop bass chasing the international sound. It wasn't.

[C]

It wasn't for megettable money was nice.

[B]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah. Word. It'll be nice to have one of those for myself. Right? Yeah.

[B]

After all that, I was shocked to see French on the album. But he's on there.

[F]

Oh.

[B]

But yeah, it started off great. The rest of it just wasn't really for me. Then I stumbled on Juicy J and DJ Scream's album.

[F]

That's for Man.

[B]

I saw the new. You know where they list the new songs. I just saw one record.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm listening to the song and I don't know what. Something made me press go to album. Oh shit. This is a whole project. And I started that. I haven't listened to anything else since. I didn't get through it. It's like 30 something records.

[F]

That's why I didn't listen to it. Cause it was like an hour and a half. I'm like, that's a chore.

[B]

I got got. I got about 16 and this is it sounds like he went back to 2012, grabbed Lex Luger.

[F]

Lex is all over this album and

[B]

it takes you right back to that time frame.

[F]

I'm going to listen. I love Juicy J. I'm a huge advocate of Juicy J. It was just. Hour and a half is a lot for me on a Friday morning.

[C]

I like the new Meek Mill freestyles as well.

[E]

Yo, those were fire.

[D]

Meek Crazy.

[C]

Those are joints is really good.

[E]

That's. That's the me.

[A]

Are they for sale somewhere N. It's on.

[E]

I just.

[B]

He got it up. It's on. Streaming.

[A]

He.

[B]

He's. He's. He's got.

[A]

Don't tell me he got it up again.

[B]

Yeah, I'll pay it.

[C]

You can remix Dreams and Nightmares and made it like into a whole new record. It sounds good.

[F]

I don't want to hear that.

[A]

You like it.

[F]

I didn't hear that.

[B]

I like the 600.

[F]

600 racks. Whatever it was.

[C]

That was cool.

[B]

That was.

[F]

That was all right, right?

[A]

Somehow Mika is one of my favorite rappers.

[F]

I love me.

[A]

He is.

[F]

I just don't want to hear a different version of Dreams and Nightmares. Personally. That's just me. I'm good with you.

[C]

And I disagreed though.

[A]

I was just trying to remake Pump it up the other day. Get it, get it, get it. How you live it.

[C]

We disagreed on the new 2 Chains record. Yeah, we did. Selector.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Pops is really good.

[F]

I love the. The content of the record. It's just a sample. If it's like a super known sample, to me it's kind of a turn off. Respectfully, you feel that way.

[C]

But Luther.

[F]

Yes. Oh, the song Luther.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

At least that was a slightly lesser known Luther record.

[B]

I ain't like this sample in this one.

[F]

And they sampled the hook of the Luther record. My father dance with my father. Yeah.

[C]

I like the right two chicks. Let me hear it a couple weeks ago. And I was like, damn, this is like leaving a lump in my throat, like. Because he's talking about his dad.

[A]

Beautiful.

[E]

Yeah. That was beyond.

[A]

It's absurd. It's absurd.

[F]

Sorry.

[A]

That was crazy. Okay.

[C]

But I'm just thinking, like, damn, he's talking about his dad. And it's like, not too many rap songs are focused about the love for their father. Like, for sure. Besides like Edog and the Bulldogs, that's like all we have. Like, I know LL Cooler had that father record years ago, but we don't have.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Father to your child.

[A]

All the father records are like, daddy bashing.

[E]

Daddy, where have you been?

[A]

Daddy, where you been? You even at OG ain't say what type of father to be. He just said, yo, that's how you step up.

[E]

What are the good dad. I mean, there's. There's obviously Nas, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Daughters. No, not daughters. I'm talking about that too. But Papa was a player.

[B]

No, you about record records paying homage to your pop.

[E]

Yeah. When he pays.

[A]

Bridging the Gap.

[E]

Bridgin the Gap.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

I was trying to think of because. And his dad's even on the record.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

So that's one. I can't think there's not too many.

[F]

There's not a lot.

[E]

There's Will Smith.

[C]

The one with just the two of us.

[E]

Yeah. And that's really him talking about him being the hip hop. We don't have songs like homage to

[C]

your dad like that. Besides Nas.

[A]

I can't think hip hop dads wasn't the best. Absolutely.

[E]

Oh, the best one, actually, now that I think about it. And it's still not an homage, per se.

[F]

Sucks.

[E]

No, it's. It's Pops rap at the end of Common's first four albums. That's just.

[F]

That's just talking.

[E]

That's why I said it's not exact. But I Mean, it was beautiful, though. But. And. And it's him and his dad back. The kind of father stretch my hands.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

It's not

[B]

malice verse. And birds don't sing.

[E]

Yeah. Oh, that's a good one.

[F]

That's a great.

[E]

That's a good one. That's a great one. That is the parents. But I'm saying, damn, I had a

[B]

dad push spoke to the mom and. And malice spoke to pops.

[E]

No. Is that the best?

[C]

That might be.

[F]

It's up there.

[E]

Did you ever do one, Joe? 17 albums.

[A]

Blue.

[E]

Sorry, I didn't know I hit a source spot.

[A]

We are honored. My dad.

[B]

You damn near had the crying. Did you miss your dad on the part?

[C]

On the record?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I did that on a record, but there was no whole song.

[E]

No song or even. Not even a verse.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Ten minutes.

[B]

Ten minutes.

[A]

Ten minutes. 10 minutes. 10 minutes. Yeah.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

Now, that being said, I am really looking forward to chains and static albums. It's just super known. Samples always throw me off, and I may have a different opinion at a different time when I hear a sample where it's like it's too blatant. It's too blatant. I'm turned off a little bit.

[A]

Regardless of sentiment, y' all finish talking about all this hardcore. Yeah.

[F]

What you got?

[A]

Go ahead. All right.

[D]

Come on, man.

[F]

Tank turtleneck. Is that what you're going to?

[A]

No, but it did drop turtlenecks. He dropped it. No, I'm going to Jersey, man.

[F]

Yes,

[A]

I'm going to Jersey. The artist again.

[F]

Awesome.

[B]

Ridiculous.

[A]

This album is the one.

[B]

Ridiculous.

[A]

This album is like her other. Good, good, good, good one. This might be her best, but I. I'm reserve that. I'm going to reserve that, but it's joints on this project. Big Jersey, the artist again. Y' all know how I ro. Album is called dnd in your phone. Up standing about your eyes set me on a standing way you got me spending on you you got away with your words. You're such a te b maybe I'm

[E]

on you when I saw the tast

[A]

you won't me to say. That's track two. That's called pull up. Drums come in at some point on this album. Real good project. Shout out to the artist, Big Jersey, Congratulations. Keep doing it. But right up my alley with all that R B.

[F]

That sounds fine. That sounds fine.

[A]

And I don't know about anything else that came out.

[F]

It was kind of a slower week, man.

[A]

It was what it is.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just home waiting for the new jungle project.

[B]

Tori dropped. Did you hear it? No. Drop the album called Super Bass, right?

[A]

Yeah. I didn't hear yet.

[B]

Not my bag.

[A]

No.

[B]

Miami Bass one is not for me.

[A]

Oh, I gotta hear that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You'll like it. You'll like it. This is not me.

[C]

I'm listening to Rick Ross, new artist Nino. Nino Breeze.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's like the recent MMG signing, I trust.

[E]

Was he Rick Ross, Miami. Oh.

[C]

So they put out a song called Type of Nigga, like maybe a year or two ago that was really good. And they repackaged it for his debut album called A Murder. So I'm listening to that right now. Sounds pretty good so far.

[A]

Did they pay you? Did they. Are they paying us?

[E]

I'm sorry.

[A]

We get a Nino Breeze off without payment. I'm sorry.

[C]

I PayPal you.

[A]

No, he got to pay us for this retroactively. Come on. Net 90. Sorry.

[E]

Jail by

[F]

90.

[A]

What else is important? What else is important? We did new music. We did call you. I think we did it.

[C]

I think we did it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think we did it. I don't have anything else. I'm cool. Right. Good show today, gentlemen. Indeed. Good vibes. What y' all on this weekend? Anything?

[F]

Easter, man.

[C]

Church.

[B]

Take these kids.

[F]

I'm going to New Orleans, man.

[A]

It

[F]

for Easter.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

You're gonna probably eat somebody rabbit, man.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Big Easter city.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So it's only right.

[A]

We need a 30 for 30 on you and New Orleans. New Orleans. I'm investigating you out there, bro.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

You bringing a chain out there, Parks?

[F]

No.

[C]

Okay, baby.

[A]

Cuz I know we don't have insurance on our part of the month, J.

[B]

That would be disgusting.

[D]

Hilarious.

[B]

That would be terrible.

[A]

Will. Put it on the gr.

[B]

What?

[A]

Now what? Dog? They. They robbing for less.

[D]

You heard me.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

I'm not gonna die over this change. So no.

[C]

You can have stop for the chain, Parks.

[A]

You hear that, voters? Oh, I don't have nothing going on this week. Oh, y' all know. Y' all know what I got going. I'm out of here.

[E]

So you got something going on.

[A]

I'm out here. I'm on family vibes. Family and kids. Family and kids. Yep. Same.

[E]

Got more karate for the sun. That's right.

[B]

And video games.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Family, kid and video games. No. They're gonna teach him discipline. They gonna calm his little ass.

[E]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. They say twice a week. I'm going four.

[A]

And you said you. You're doing work in dc, Right? Doing work.

[E]

Do you need help? You need an assistant N. I'm cool, cuz.

[D]

I'm happy to not my team come

[F]

do some nailing, whatever. Some screwing, some screwing. Maybe lay some pipe.

[A]

Like how long do it take to do some H Vac? Like what the how long it take?

[E]

Man, if it ain't blowing, it ain't

[A]

blowing, man, he going find a reason I'm ignoring you, bro. If it ain't blowing, it ain't blowing. How long do it take to put the stucco on? Yo, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do. Farewell. Adios. Cereva D. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Ego. Lastly, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want you to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. It go. Piano man. Getting busy in the bag overtakes smoking and shit.

[E]

Don't sound like your music now, you fucking BB King haters. Instrumentation right now.

[A]

Shout out to BBK man and. And the bar and restaurant. That was a good spirit. I knew it. I knew it.

[C]

I think this guy just died.

[A]

Oh, rest in peace, homeboy. I know the day I was born. So disrespectful. It's funny, but it's horrible.

[B]

My bad.

[A]

He's still alive. My bad. BB King. And welcome back, homeboy. Homeboy, welcome back home. Oh, my God.

[F]

On Easter weekend? That's crazy.

[A]

And with that said. No, we are out of here on Easter weekend. We'll fold that up right now.

[D]

Look away now.