Episode 919 | "Scott La Rock Died?"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 919 | "Scott La Rock Died?"

Date: April 11, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode delivers the trademark raw, rapid-fire banter between Joe Budden and his diverse panel of friends, with deep dives into ongoing hip-hop drama, workplace romance, drug policy and legal issues, generational shifts, and music debates. They blend hilarious storytelling and cultural critique, keeping it both irreverent and sincere.

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EPISODE BREAKDOWN

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1. Opening Banter & Objectifying Women

Timestamps: 00:00–16:00

• Early banter sets the show's playful, chaotic tone. The crew jokes about “last looks” and physical appearances.
• The conversation dives into the nuances of complimenting and objectifying women. Mona, the female panelist, gives a frank take on receiving catcalls and DMs, distinguishing “gassing” from creepy behavior.
• Key exchange:
  • Joe: “When is it all right to objectify women?”
  • Ish: “Never. Never, Joe, are you crazy?” (02:52)
  • Mona: “Damn is gassing me, to be honest. That’s gassing me.” (04:44)
• The crew discusses double standards in who gets away with bold flirting and male/female social dynamics.

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2. Drugs, Hustling, & Gender Double Standards

Timestamps: 15:33–31:00

• Joe reads a long, tongue-in-cheek list of things “considered kinda gay,” triggering laughter and risqué commentary.
• Panelists discuss societal perceptions of gender roles and hustle, including how people treat “street” versus “civilian” codes.
• The group pivots into drugs, discussing the criminal justice system and who gets harsh punishments (with reference to the Matthew Perry case, see section 7).

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3. Gucci Mane, Pooh Shiesty, and Authenticity in Hip-Hop

Timestamps: 26:14–53:44

• The crew reacts to the new Gucci Mane song, sharply criticizing its quality and the artist’s motives.
• Major debate about street credibility, legality, and how artists change over time—should someone who has “clocked out” of the streets still be held to street codes?
• Notable quote:
  • Joe: “I like my street n****s to be consistent.” (29:02)
  • Dr. Mark Lamont Hill: “We ignore the screams of children too often... those children matter far more than any musical contribution.” (102:20)
• Mona argues Gucci has “not been a street n**** in years,” now a medicated rapper who’s made bad business decisions.

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4. Drug Dealer Morality & Justice

Timestamps: 81:59–95:14

• Case study: length of sentences for drug dealers who serve celebrities (like Matthew Perry) vs. average folks.
• Ish: Argues against disproportionate sentencing, says drug laws unfairly target dealers for famous deaths.
• The group discusses addiction, drug dealing as a service vs. crime, harm reduction, safe injection sites, and the need for policy reform.
• Mona: “People that are addicts should get treatment... we know the way we handle drugs in this country and what it does.” (93:04)

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5. Workplace Romance, Gender Double Standards, and The Diana Rossini Story

Timestamps: 105:19–122:39

• Discussion of sports reporter Diana Rossini, caught in a possible affair with NFL coach Mike Vrabel.
• The panel debates if women in male-dominated industries are unfairly assumed to sleep with colleagues.
  • Mona: “They just assume that you... it’s patriarchy. And it doesn’t happen the other way.” (117:51)
• Everyone swaps stories about work crushes, workplace hookups, and how office dynamics really operate across industries.

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6. Open Relationships, Cuckoldry, & Sex Positivity

Timestamps: 129:49–142:43

• Nikki Glazer’s “hot husband fetish” and the spectrum of open relationships: Mona welcomes sexual openness, but not emotional cheating.
• Debates about open relationships, double standards for men and women, and evolving definitions of “cuck” in culture.
  • Nikki Glazer: “If my husband had sex with another woman, I wouldn’t care... emotional cheating would hurt me.” (130:16)
  • Mona: “It is more hurtful for somebody to be spending time with somebody, investing in a business...” (135:23)
• Lots of laughs as panelists joke about the possibilities and boundaries of such “modern” relationships.

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7. Generational & Cultural Change—Proms, Youth, and Sex

Timestamps: 144:02–150:39

• Today’s teens go to prom in groups, not couples; are less invested in commitment.
• Panel reflects on how sex and relationships have changed between generations—more sexual freedom, but also more disconnection.
• Joe: “I was still scared of [sex] when I went to proms.” (147:03)

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8. Hip-Hop Eulogies: Blondie & Afrika Bambaataa

Timestamps: 97:23–105:17

• Dr. Mark Lamont Hill delivers a powerful, nuanced eulogy for Afrika Bambaataa, acknowledging both his foundational contributions to hip-hop culture and the grave harm he caused through sexual abuse.
• Mark: “I don’t have a rest in peace for Afrika Bambaataa, but I do have words of healing and condolences for all the people he harmed...” (102:20)

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9. Chris Brown vs. Usher – The Ultimate R&B Debate

Timestamps: 154:21–end

• Major, heated showdown: who would win in a Verzuz battle—Chris Brown or Usher?
  • Joe, Ish, and Parks argue Chris Brown, citing his huge discography and “bangers.”
  • Mark and B Dot rep for Usher, emphasizing “classic” records and mainstream dominance.
• Key quotes:
  • Mark: “Usher’s big records are too big. That’s what I’m saying.” (166:50)
  • Joe: “Chris got a lot of records, man...I got Chris Brown in the distance.” (166:43)
• They agree the upcoming joint tour will be legendary.

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10. Lighthearted Closer: Weekend Plans & Parting Shots

Timestamps: 185:51–end

• Panel shares weekend plans; jokes fly about getting “outside,” relationship dynamics, and group chemistry.
• Joe signs off with a reflection: “Hopefully you’ve enjoyed this broadcast as much as we’ve enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers...life is a series of moments, and moments pass.”

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NOTABLE QUOTES

• Joe (on problematic street narratives): “I believe that energy is real. You play with pigs, you get dirty.” (31:51)
• Mark Lamont Hill (on Afrika Bambaataa): “[We] always have to have that asterisk next to it because those children matter far more than any musical contribution.” (102:20)
• Mona (on cheating): “If you’re happy and you feel ok, that’s just what it is...I don’t think that sex is like a big deal. I couldn’t see myself leaving somebody for fucking on me...” (133:17)
• Ish: “We got to come to a point sometimes where we not really condoning some of this tomfoolery.” (43:59)
• Parks (Verzuz debate): “Big records win Verzuz, I’m sorry.” (170:41)

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MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• Wild list: Joe’s comedic rundown of “things considered kinda gay,” sparking laughter. (15:33+)
• Panel’s open confessionals about DMs, sex, jealousy, and whether men use condoms.
• Chris Brown vs. Usher debate dominates the back end—and stays unresolved.
• Mark’s Afrika Bambaataa eulogy—searing, sensitive, and scholarly.
• Jokes about prom fits: Joe’s “lime green hush puppies” vs. Ish’s lizard shoes.

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EPISODE SUMMARY

This episode offers a true cross-section of "Joe Budden Podcast" energy: boundary-pushing jokes, biting music reviews, earnest culture critique, and heartfelt personal disclosure. Whether you’re invested in hip-hop beefs, care about evolving codes of masculinity, want to laugh at lists of “sussy” behavior, or crave honest talk about intimacy, justice, and culture—Episode 919 delivers on all fronts.

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For related episodes and further discussion, check out:

• Recent debates on hip-hop authenticity & legal drama
• Past shows featuring Mona and Dr. Mark Lamont Hill
• Verzuz episodes dissecting R&B and rap battles

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Transcript

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. All right, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

[B]

Check last looks. Last looks.

[A]

Last looks. Yeah, I mean, everybody do what you gotta do. You woke up like this good esthetician. Still going. Your nails look like something, huh?

[C]

My earrings are missing.

[D]

So.

[B]

So what? Got you.

[C]

They in that bag somewhere. Them.

[A]

Come on, do it live. No, we wait. No, we wait. Last looks. We said ahead and get your last look. Girl, get your off. I see you got your black effect hair in. Yo. Hey, I could have. I could have jumped through the phone. This mother black. I'll be home catching feelings over the dumbest.

[C]

Yes, you do.

[A]

Mona popped up looking mad good on my timeline. I almost fired you. It's like, all right, we have been getting jipped. Is wrong with her? Anyway. Anyway, the last part, I came in here. Last part, I came in here

[D]

with

[A]

a teacher Moses question. Nobody wanted to participate in the teacher Moses question, but everybody kind of knew. Everybody kind of knew what I was getting at.

[B]

We smelled what you were stepping into.

[A]

Yeah, they was picking up what I was putting down, but we all pussy, so we didn't say it did. What's the question? Well, it was a Fill in the blank. Okay. It was a Teacher Moses be looking like she can hook a steak up. Acceptable answer. Acceptable answer. And then after that, after I said that, Ice jumped in the group chat talking about, yo, I spoke to teacher Moses. She's watching the show. She heard what you said. I come in today, it's like, yo, Teacher Moses want to come up here? Like, wait a second now. What did I miss? Like, what happened?

[D]

When did everybody get connected to teacher Moses?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Shout to teach nobody. Shout to.

[A]

Shout to teacher Moses. Mad shout. Mad Shouts.

[E]

Yells.

[A]

What happened?

[F]

Nothing.

[E]

Ain't nobody want to disrespect the queen, so we.

[A]

Yeah, but how did anybody speak to her? I didn't speak to her.

[E]

I didn't speak to her either.

[D]

Me neither.

[A]

I understand why everybody was quiet, but when is it all right to objectify women?

[E]

Never. Never. Joe, are you crazy?

[A]

Oh, y' all guys are crazy. What kind of show you think this is?

[D]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

Sometimes it's. How dare you, Joe, what is wrong? It's never okay to Objectify women.

[B]

What if it's your woman?

[D]

Oh, you gotta objectify your lady all the time.

[B]

That's required.

[D]

That's pretty much all I do.

[E]

Women fought and fought and fought. They just were able to own houses not too long ago, Joe, and have bank accounts, facts. And you still want to put them in that place.

[A]

They be saying that, want to feel bad. Y' all ain't need a mortgage no way. I get it.

[C]

That is hard.

[A]

Riches could have opened up an Roth ira, you know what I mean? Hey, we didn't count as full humans till what, 68 or some shit. Get in the back of the line, Mom.

[E]

You don't need the trouble of that bank account anyway.

[A]

Get out here. Get out here. Let me hold it for you. Let me flip it. Now look. Now look what's happening with chicks getting jawed.

[D]

Anyway, I think a little public appreciation is good. Maybe not full out objectification, but you

[B]

could do it in a polite way.

[D]

Yeah, you can say. You can just. You just like, she look good.

[B]

That's a beautiful woman.

[E]

What do you say?

[F]

Damn.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's. Damn's okay.

[E]

That was a joke.

[A]

No way. DAM is okay. DAM is definitely on the list.

[D]

Wait, no. Damn.

[B]

You can say damn.

[D]

I can say damn.

[A]

That's. What kind of dress she wearing?

[E]

If a walk. Yeah.

[B]

You look nice today.

[A]

You look nice today. Is that Valentino is connected to your strap?

[D]

Hold on, let me ask you, since you're a woman.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

Sometimes I don't know.

[A]

That's what the fans be saying when

[E]

you walk by and a nigga hit

[F]

you with the damn.

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Honestly, that's like complimenting. That's not even like scary.

[E]

You from north, especially if that's why.

[C]

No, it's not that. Cause I've said that before. Those little interactions can get crazy sometimes if you respond the wrong way. But damn is gassing me, to be honest. That's gassing me.

[D]

So as long as they gassing you good. Do you feel objectified?

[C]

I mean, I think everybody's feel objectified at some point. I'm a comic and I get dick pics and jerk off videos.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[D]

Wow.

[C]

Like, that's what I mean. Like if I want to Internet doing content, like the most of it is jokes, you know what I'm saying? And that's the automatic reaction I get I got from the door.

[D]

Yeah, see, that's the od, dude.

[A]

My shorty one time said she was walking and a guy passed her and said, damn, I fucked the shit out of you. And she was, like, taking it back, Like a gasp.

[F]

Like, oh, my gosh.

[B]

That's a little flagrant.

[A]

That's crazy, though. That's New York.

[C]

Way worse.

[D]

My thing about that kind of remark, it's like, who do that work on? Like, what kind of response do you expect to get from that? You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, no woman has ever said, oh, word. Let's go find out.

[A]

Some things you're not saying for a response.

[C]

That's the thing.

[D]

That's true. And that's why it's so ill to

[C]

me, because what's the point?

[D]

Yeah, you just want to feel like.

[C]

You want to see her reaction. She's freaked out. She's afraid. Like, what tip were you on to me?

[D]

That's the objectification, because she's literally just an object that's probably for your pleasure. They got shit to do with her.

[E]

Yeah, I think. I think. I think damn is the same.

[A]

Really?

[E]

They close.

[B]

I'll fuck the shit out of you.

[F]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

I was like, how do you say damn? You said damn, dick out.

[E]

No, I'm just saying, like, I think damn is objectifying. Like, somebody walks by and you like, damn. Like you don't know the person they damn is.

[A]

I'm with Ish. Damn is one, and I'll fuck the shit out of you is ten. But it's the same scale.

[F]

Damn.

[D]

I think so.

[A]

And she know what we saying.

[C]

No, it's not the same scale.

[D]

Let me ask you a question.

[A]

Scale.

[C]

It's not the same scale. Damn could almost be like, your body is nice or you just damn I

[A]

the shit out of you.

[C]

The shit out of you is

[E]

damn verbally. I the shit out of you mentally.

[A]

Yeah, no, cuz like, comma, bust your ass.

[B]

That's Minority report. So you can't get punished for what you think.

[E]

I'm not disagreeing, but us as men are saying they in the same vein.

[D]

What if we say wow instead of

[A]

damn a Mark, mute up.

[E]

I'm not.

[D]

I'm saying, like, damn is just a part of wow.

[A]

You look nice today.

[D]

I'm just saying damn is just a hood way.

[A]

That's the doctor version of us.

[D]

I'm saying they not on the same scale.

[A]

I'm so fornicating with it.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying dam and wild is on one side. I fucked the shit up. She's a whole different scale to me.

[A]

Mark wow is not on no side

[D]

with what I'm saying wow is just a weak way of saying damn. If somebody walked by with a great body, she look good. Whatever. You go damn to me, that's it. I'm impressed by what I see. I fuck the shit out you. Like a threat to a stranger.

[C]

Yeah. Even everything.

[A]

Nah, not if you look fuckable. Not if you look fuckable. Everything in 50 Shades of Gray was stalking and harassment, but not in that movie.

[B]

This is true. This is true.

[E]

The half of the Instagrams, nigga.

[A]

So it depends on who's Joe.

[D]

You wear nice clothes. You go on an elevator. It's happened to you before. You get on elevator, a guy has said to you before, like, wow, you look good. Or damn, that looks good.

[A]

That's never happened to me before.

[D]

Fans, please find the video where he talks about this guy in the elevator telling me, look good. Just bring that up. A dude says, you damn, I fucked

[A]

the shit out of you.

[D]

Five minutes later, somebody get up and be like, I the shit out you, Joe. That's different.

[A]

If a guy is hitting you with a wow or a damn. See, this is why he's trying to pick you up. And you don't be knowing what's going on. He's picking you up, he's trying to flirt with you. If he's saying damn or wow to

[D]

you, and that's my purpose. Damn is a flirt. I fuck the shit out you is not a flirt. That's what I'm saying. You saying the same thing. I'm saying damn. It's flirty.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, I think it depends on who's saying the damn and how you say it.

[D]

Right?

[E]

That definitely plays a part.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Damn.

[A]

Because if a fat. An ugly chick says damn to you, it's like, is it you stop yourself

[C]

for fat to say, ugly.

[D]

Got him.

[A]

I love the fat girls, but I'm just saying, if an ugly chick says it, it hits different. As opposed to a hot chick saying it to you, does it?

[E]

Not for me.

[D]

Not for me.

[A]

Oh, this is great.

[E]

Not for men. I think it's different for women. I'm not a woman, but. Cause you know, if you a certain dude, you could get away with certain shit.

[C]

Facts. That's true.

[E]

You get what I'm saying? Like you could get away with certain

[C]

shit, but the handsome guys still can't say, I'll fuck the shit out of you.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

That's the perfect point.

[A]

The handsome guys ain't gonna say, I'll fuck the shit out of you, because they'll activate.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

The handsome guy's just gonna activate.

[F]

Yeah, it's gonna happen.

[A]

What am I saying it for? I'm by myself. You right there.

[F]

You know what time it is?

[E]

Yeah. Once we engage, it's on you just.

[F]

Yeah, you know about that. Ish.

[C]

Pey Ish just put himself. Once we.

[E]

I was talking about me and the girl. Like, no.

[A]

Cause I, you know, and him don't play with my boy.

[D]

No, that ain't my bag.

[E]

Like, hollering ain't really my bag, so. But once we.

[B]

A little.

[D]

Once they approach you.

[E]

No, once it.

[D]

However the conversation.

[E]

Yo, however the conversation starts. Once we there, we there. I don't have to say no. Ignorant to you.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. Like, you don't gotta say.

[E]

I'm a.

[F]

Confidence is out there.

[A]

She really have to talk his whole life. No, I ain't mad at my boy, dog.

[E]

Which one is it? I talk too much or I never have?

[D]

You Both. Both.

[G]

Both.

[F]

Nigga, don't try to trick us up. Which one is it?

[D]

Look at him.

[B]

Look at me.

[E]

It's both.

[F]

Yeah. Look at me when I talk to you.

[E]

So which one is it?

[A]

Both. I'm. Yeah, I said you never needed words to get it going at all. Once it gets going, you missed a he.

[F]

Thomas the Train.

[A]

He going, thomas.

[D]

I don't know if that's the one.

[C]

You

[A]

want some freaky shit.

[F]

Your man die.

[A]

Oh, man. So, Mona. So if a handsome guy approaches you, like women like Idris Alba, it says, damn, that's a good one.

[F]

She goes, I eat.

[A]

You versus some nigga from North.

[D]

You got a type, you think he cute. You gotta say, that's what women think they like.

[A]

That's my type.

[D]

Yo, I used the same example.

[F]

It was Queen.

[D]

I used the same example a couple months ago. That's my type, too.

[E]

Who's the handsome guy that women like?

[A]

Idris Elba. Right.

[D]

He's my type too. B Dot.

[F]

Are you crazy?

[B]

He's in your guy five.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[F]

Hey, Y. You back outside the.

[D]

I cry with brother Buon. Killed him, huh?

[F]

Go back in the house.

[A]

Mark.

[F]

Go back in the house.

[A]

Yo, this guy is crazy. The point is. Thank you.

[D]

Sorry.

[A]

If a random guy from north says

[D]

the same thing, does it have the same. Random guys from north are attractive too. Just saying.

[A]

Just a random guy or a mutant approaches you and says, damn. Does it hit the same for you?

[F]

Nigga, you know you talking to niggas.

[C]

Damn and damn. But one look better.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Come on, Mona.

[A]

Mona. Fuck off. The damn Yeah.

[C]

I don't know, like approaching somebody like on a cat call.

[D]

Shit.

[C]

It's like, do you really wanna have a conversation? Like at this big age? I couldn't imagine somebody cat calling me, me stopping. When you a kid, you turn around,

[F]

but as an adult brush past you and look good. He on it, you know, But I'

[C]

ma fuck the shit out too. Damn. And all that hip hop shit now.

[B]

All that.

[C]

Like, I could not imagine, like, God damn, like skin. And I turn around like I actually talk back.

[F]

Yo, he gonna turn around like, yo,

[D]

was that the one that used to get it done though?

[C]

He just did that to me, though, recently, like loudly, like, yo, pretty in pink. I had a pink sweatsuit. Pretty and pink. Pretty. I was mortified.

[F]

Like, you ain't turn around at all. You just left.

[C]

I put my head down and power walk. That's come on.

[D]

But if he had scream I the out. You would have ran.

[C]

I would have ran.

[B]

I have to imagine it's where you're at too. And when you're at where you're at,

[C]

parks is cat calling and just DMing the same thing. Like you just DMing like new school direct messages, Snapchat. Like when I say I get a dick pic, that's what it comes through the direct message.

[B]

I see what you're saying.

[C]

So most of my damns and wows, because I do get. I do get wows.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

They're on the pictures in the store. Like they just they DM you all day that say, you know what I mean? But the people that DM me and say I the you, I do not respond. I don't like the comment. Nothing the damn. In a while I might like conversate a little bit.

[F]

What lines would get it done for you in the DMS that make you open it? Because I know you talked about this before, but what can somebody say to make you say, oh, thank you.

[C]

If you make me laugh, if you crack a joke, Something like that. That's automatic cash app. This. Nails and all that.

[F]

Yeah, let's go.

[C]

And if you really pay attention, like one time this guy knew the nickname for my coochie and I only said it on my podcast. So that mean he had to watch my show because he was like, how you doing? You and Tabitha? I was like, oh, my God. How you know about Tabitha?

[B]

I'm sorry, Tabitha.

[C]

That's her name.

[D]

How about I say we escape past that?

[C]

This is not the witch Tabitha and her nickname.

[B]

This is a workplace. I want to just remind everybody.

[C]

We just gonna move Past it. But her name is Tabitha.

[A]

Tabitha.

[C]

Y' all don't name.

[D]

Did you name her Tabitha to somebody else?

[C]

That's me.

[D]

Oh, good name.

[E]

Yeah. Might have cast some spells on a.

[C]

People have names for their parts. Sometimes they do that too. None of y' all in here never named your dick?

[B]

I never named my dick.

[D]

No.

[C]

Okay, maybe I'm a weirdo. I accept it.

[B]

As long as you're self aware.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And anytime I said to somebody or thought that I was going to the out of somebody, I didn't.

[F]

That's the other thing. Hey, yo, that's the shortest day ever. When you hype yourself.

[B]

I'mma.

[A]

I'm real quick. Why do y' all do that? I don't even say that.

[D]

I should never say that.

[A]

Sh. It's like you. L. I try to lower expectivity. That word.

[F]

It's like you put a spell on yourself. You go there and try to kill it.

[A]

Like, come and get word.

[F]

Like, yo.

[C]

No, not to mention most women hate that. Like, why are you talking about it?

[F]

Not me?

[D]

I'm going say, watch yourself. They have DMS back when you was

[F]

D. And why you chill. I'm on you. They DM me too.

[D]

We'll talk, laugh.

[C]

He said every single times they meet the people, the guy that hypes it up is always ass. Like, never. The guy that bust your ass. Don't even mention it. The guy that acts like he don't want sex, that fucks you on your first time somewhere because he didn't talk about it. You didn't see it coming. You know what I mean? Next you know, you in the pool,

[B]

pun intended, nigga, it knocks your fucking head off.

[C]

Yeah, but that's a better route than constantly texting about it, asking about it, saying, what you gonna do to it? A coochie when you get it. Like, that's stupid. Men should be hip to that kind of shit by now. Like, that's dumb. Act like you don't want it. You get it, you know?

[B]

Sure hard to get.

[A]

All right. I'm under promise over perform. Got a list of things that are kind of gay. We got umbrellas, lollipops, being cozy, laughing too hard, getting a ticket, ice cream eating, slowly plugging your nose, jumping in a pool, fingernail trimmers, sunscreen, skin care, eating candy, trampolines, baths, wearing gloves when it's cold, being cold, complaining aprons, holding

[B]

in a sneeze, but letting it squeak

[A]

out, protesting, having a spotless house, saying, oh my gosh, themed socks, mocktails, reading, dreaming, feeling things Water shoes, not liking

[B]

sports, being under 150 pounds, saying young, looking for parking, getting cut off, dropping

[A]

something, picking it up, scooters asking for help in a store. Parentheses, just leave tea, chewing gum, grocery shopping, dessert, blowing your nose, tying your shoe, Driving with two hands on the steering wheel. Eating stuff with cream filling, pushing a pole door and vice versa. Waving chocolate covered fruits, hydroplaning naps, being deceived or tricked, getting surprised, holding balloons, blowing out candles, food allergies, trying to get a server's attention and not being heard. Using chapstick, whispering, covering a yawn, losing your balance, getting your hat blown off by the wind, being scared, attempting a parallel park and not one repping it. Holding your phone with your face and or shoulder. Receiving medical attention and saying bless you.

[B]

That's fucking hilarious. Nah, he was dead out with some of them.

[A]

I think I covered half of those.

[D]

I'm like a solid 80.

[A]

I'm like a 75. Blowing your hat is crazy.

[B]

Hold your sneeze and letting it squeak out

[E]

holding your shit.

[C]

That has to be accurate.

[A]

The real you losing your hat to the wind. My bonnet. I was at the bar the other

[B]

night, cold as shit. I felt like such a. My wife was warm. I was sick.

[E]

You better hold that in part.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sitting here like this. But they don't know about your stress filled game.

[F]

Baby on the way.

[A]

Mag bills, the pain. That's why we drink Tang so you can reminisce and wish you wasn't living so devilish. That is definitely the demo version of of that song.

[B]

Me up the old bastard or something.

[A]

God damn. Okay, I'm reloaded. You Jesus. Is it you? Big time with Jay Z? Rest in peace, Clark K. Oh my God. Rest in peace, Clark. Still waiting on those sweet prices.

[D]

Scared so you sent your little mans

[F]

to come kill me.

[D]

But on the contrary, I packed the Mac mini squeezed off on him Left the paramedic freedom soft on him.

[A]

Who shot your moptas like Sinatra? Peruvians tried to do me in I ain't paid them yet trying to put 700Z bracelets. I wonder if the people in Bensonhurst

[D]

were mad they didn't get a shout out this is it right here, baby. Now you might see me in a jack truck either with a dime or a band up Double RT with the matching bandana why y' all with.

[A]

Your.

[D]

Mean light in the green I need a buggy even though I look right in the be Find out it's my team he boost, they fail, try to boost they sales Put Our eyes on the table when our eyes on the label Cause them rednecks up in the mountains and try to slay you hold me raspy tell you what I want you to know Fuck what you ask me probably don't want me to blow I got a lot of horsepower so I'm able to skip Usually a good nigger even though I'm able to flip you pay 30 for the kiss, 100 for the lob and if we cool then I write a hook for a drop Whatever's in the bank is gonna.

[E]

Boxing to the fish like Swanson, New

[A]

York's youngest R. Johnson I put fit

[D]

in y' all heads chic, loose type

[A]

of damn, I can't play this whole thing but the verses I want to hear it at the end.

[D]

Is with summer surrounded by sixes and

[A]

hummers Blackout versus so Paul, I mean soal so Paul, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nah, black, meanest, toughest, done dud the Gun Butcher. Come on, it doesn't get better than that. So Paul the student, bro. Feels wrong to pick so Paul, though.

[B]

It does.

[A]

But I think even Jay Z will say this one one among us try

[D]

not to let this become lined up for y' all today.

[A]

Big Mo in the building,

[D]

Trust me, y' all can still feel the heat in the rain I keep creeping. J blows the pesos chase hoes nah, I just circle round the block in

[A]

the drop tell them jump through the

[D]

top where the sunroof used to be

[A]

See I got used to getting back

[D]

the flows like none other I'm the meanest, toughest dun dunna the gun butcher you the type to bust a lot of shots and none touch you I'm the type to get excited when the gun touch.

[A]

Sit tight, man, roll some up, grab a bites I'm letting it go I'm headed nowhere fast Running in gun in my waist Wanted a taste but wouldn't come in my face so what that mean?

[E]

You cats is playing games again? So now what I do?

[A]

Start naming names again? All you know like you don't know lox is go far we can take

[E]

a dick but to make it fair

[A]

get some more James be coming with

[E]

life all best to stop playing It'll

[A]

be the ones you forgotten about It'll get you shot in your mouth Got my dogs covered plus it's all gravy like chicken when it's smothered Love it. Get him, boy. Get. It's been five years since we lost dmx. Hey, X. We miss you, man. Clark, Herb. We miss you, man. A lot of people I miss. Can't wait for this Mark eulogy today, boy.

[B]

Got your work cut out for you, buddy.

[A]

Get the Undertaker music theme ready. Oh, my God. Let me get these drops out the way.

[D]

New ice.

[A]

Flip and Mona and B do what episode is this?

[B]

919.

[A]

Welcome to episode 919 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by a Few by Power by Prize Picks Prize Pix Gang, I'm your humble, gracious, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right. Don't call her white girl. We missed her dearly. Big Damona is in the building. Mona, how you doing?

[C]

I'm good. Glad to see you niggas good.

[A]

We happy to see you too. Next to her, another Philly motherfucker is here. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

[D]

I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Can I give a. Well, I'm going to give a happy birthday to Malcolm, my four year old. He hit the big 04 today,

[C]

baby.

[A]

Nice. Happy birthday, Malcolm. Yeah, let's go. That's great news.

[C]

Is he named after Malcolm? Brother Malcolm? That's right.

[E]

Aries.

[D]

Aries.

[E]

Aries or Pisces?

[D]

I don't be knowing that stuff.

[A]

I think Aries here this know everything but the horoscope.

[D]

That's the line.

[A]

What's your zodiac sign?

[D]

I just do April Tip. Oh, shout out to Q Tip too. It's his birthday too. Happy birthday, Tip.

[B]

Happy birthday, Q Tip.

[A]

I talked to him yesterday. Legend feels funny when you don't put the Q in front of it.

[C]

Yeah, Tip is long.

[A]

Yeah, Tip is happy birthday.

[C]

Happy birthday.

[A]

Tip is crazy.

[B]

Giving out some happy birthday Tip in my life.

[C]

Tip. Happy birthday.

[A]

Next to him, our good brother man.

[D]

Mr.

[A]

Thousand Doors and up. Big Ish is in the building. Ish, how you doing?

[E]

I'm great. Yourself?

[A]

Good. Couldn't be better. Absolutely love that for you. Next to him. Come on. Queens is finest. Big B Dot. What's poppin Tom Brown? Endorsements galore. It's my tax refund money. And you brought the. And you put the chains out today. You know what I mean? Stop playing with it. Dipped in the stash. Splurged on the chain. Yeah. Come on. Take that, Elliot.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Take it off. All right. Big B Dot is here. Next to him. Queens get the money. Queen split in the building. Next to him. Elmira's finest Big parks in the building.

[D]

Potter the month.

[A]

White Pole is here. Corey is here. Fetch Phelps is here. Erickson is here. Tanner Savona here by remote. Last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Everybody's good. Everybody's good. We feeling good. Y' all smell great. Y' all look great. Come on, let's get right to it, man. Yeah, let's get right to it. Pack him up. Pack him up. Come on. Cue it up. It's not in my serato.

[B]

I won't burden your serato with this.

[A]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I wouldn't dare waste my apple. Old computer memory. Yeah. On this.

[D]

I'm not feeling the new Gucci mane. Huh?

[A]

You wasn't either. Yo, tell me if one of y' all are about to defend this cuz, I'll take a Tylenol. The new Gucci man

[C]

school up. Yeah.

[F]

Huh?

[C]

I hate to see you

[A]

tell the truth.

[C]

You went out like a real crash diamond. And after all that, boy, you still signed to me. I'm like Birdman and nigga, this my cash money.

[A]

And your fat ass flunky, he a stone cold junkie.

[C]

You know I got my bread up. I always keep my head up. I thought it was a business meeting, but it was a setup.

[A]

I walk in the room, you can

[C]

feel the pressure building.

[E]

Niggas doubt me up the whole time.

[C]

They plotting against me. I don't take it personal. For me, it's on the business. And I don't want to conversate.

[A]

If it ain't about no millions, no

[B]

one seems to be bobbing their head, so I'm gonna go ahead.

[A]

Thank you for pausing that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause what the.

[F]

Wait, hold on. So you don't like the record?

[A]

I don't like anything about any of this.

[B]

Me either.

[A]

I don't like anything about it.

[F]

So I'm confused, because. Do you. Are you promoting? No, I'm not with that. But you promoting violence in hip hop again, huh? That's what I'm saying. He's rapping because somebody did something to him. That's what he's rapping about.

[B]

Okay?

[F]

And he's taking. Instead of taking the street route like he killed somebody else that tried to kill him.

[D]

He's taking the street route. I would rather he shot somebody else.

[B]

Give me a second.

[A]

Give me a second.

[F]

You niggas is all hypocrites. You niggas just conveniently, everyone's a hypocrite. Support of street shit. And now all of a sudden, nigga, you supporting street shit? Too old.

[D]

No, I'm just Saying it's a bad song. I think it's a song.

[F]

So you talking about the song or the situation?

[E]

He said, I don't like.

[F]

I'm talking to him. He said, I don't like anything about this. That's what I'm referring to. So I'm asking my man, are you back on that side?

[A]

Him.

[F]

Pack him up. I don't agree with that, neighbor.

[A]

He. It's over now. It's over, buddy. It's all pack him up. Outside of this song being absolutely horrible. True. It sound like the stenographer wrote it. Yeah, they tell him that's what it sounds like. I'm a businessman. He said I'm a businessman 90 times on this motherfucker. Nigga, who you telling us? Who you telling? Court? Who is he talking to? I'm a civilian. I just want millions. I don't want no trouble. Bud, shut the fuck up with this shit. Get him out of here. Cause this wasn't the tone at the Jeezy verses.

[D]

Fact. That's the fact

[A]

I like my street niggas to be. Be consistent.

[D]

Joe, I'm telling you, this could be the. This could be. He could be playing possum. So he. He got on the record. Now that he's a businessman, he want no trouble. He not in no street. And if somebody turned up missing, it ain't got nothing to do with him. He might be setting the trap.

[A]

This is hard.

[B]

The song sucks.

[D]

I think it's irresponsible.

[C]

I mean, my question to y' all is, if it was hard, would it be a difference?

[B]

If it was hard, I wouldn't have no problem with it. Honestly, I might still have some issues with it.

[C]

Right. That's what I mean.

[B]

My issues being that he's. He's playing the CEO role, and I think he's right to do that. And I think, you know, I don't give a About all this snitching shit, but if you're gonna do that, at

[D]

least do it well.

[B]

I'm just saying don't go back to rapping like I'm a businessman. I had to do this because this is what a businessman would do. Then do that.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Part.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

If it were a harder joint, my tone would be different. My tone would be different. I love a good, hard diss track. This type of track, with this, whatever he's doing two to three days after it's released, the shit that he's bragging about, I don't feel like he's excited. Oh, all of that, you still signed to me, nigga, it was a rifle to your fucking head. Like, what are we talking about with this point? He's a rapper, so he's doing what rappers do, is documenting the experience. But at the same time, like I said, it's an open case. It's kind of irresponsible for them to talk about that.

[F]

I agree.

[A]

So soon. Disgusting.

[B]

I like a little irresponsibility in the rap, so I'm not gonna hold.

[C]

It's an open case, but he's not charged.

[D]

He's the victim.

[C]

You know what I mean? That's what I mean. The only way it would matter if it's open case is if he really wanted him persecuted and put in prison. And he gonna kick like he didn't care. He's not cooperating. That's what his line's gonna be in the street. He's never gonna claim that he's cooperating with the police if he even cooperates with the police. My thing is, every Gucci wife went on a breakfast club and said that he was on psych meds. She said that she would have to pay some. Sometimes get people together to grab his ass when he was manic or whatever and take him to somewhere we can calm down, get some medicine, and come home and try a new medicine. That's the Gucci that we dealing with. Somebody that's on fucking psych meds. That's the type of diss track you get from a nigga that's medicated. And when you say street nigga to me, Gucci ain't been a street nigga in years. Like, that's over. But that energy at the versus did give. Like, I'm still mad I pop you today. But in reality, like, he. He's not a street nigger.

[A]

That versus wasn't that long ago.

[C]

It wasn't.

[D]

It was like five years. But like, anything that was strange, but that's a specific energy. I mean, I get that. I mean, I just hate that in hip hop, one dude busts into a room, put somebody, put a gun in somebody's head, robbed them, and tried to get them to sign a contract under duress. And we saying the dude, the victim, is irresponsible. Like, I get what you're saying. You're not wrong. It just speaks to the culture we in, and I'm frustrated by that. All our energy should be for the niggas that put the guns in people's heads. You know what I mean? And even myself, I'm finding myself mad at this song matter how he dealing with it?

[A]

Yeah, but you bring up the word energy, and I believe that energy is real. And you manifest shit and you attract the laws of attraction. I came in here and I said, this one. Gucci got mad at me when I said, yo, dawg, maybe it's time to start looking for, like, musicians and not signing every street nigga in the universe. Because eventually you play and you play with pigs, you get dirty. Like, what the fuck do you think was gonna happen then when homeboy died? And the second he died. The second he died, your scar. Rest in peace. The second he died, you want your 1017 chain back? Like, he been a little off. Yeah, he's been off. So now when you put the oatmeal in the microwave and it come out oatmeal. Now you wanna get on a song

[F]

with all of this.

[A]

Shut the up. Shut the up. We wasn't looking for music from you before. Don't come drop something at midnight talking about Crash. That nigga y' all. All Crash. All of y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Fuck you. Creating separatism, Crash. Dummy. Separatism.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[F]

Here's the thing. I'm with you on that. I didn't want to listen to the song because you know what I thought he stood for in all reality, though, when I look at it in his mind, he's gonna say he don't want the other side to win. He don't want yo Gotti to win. I don't want. You ain't gonna. I look at it from a bigger scope. All right? Yo, you. You did that to me to get out of. Get out the contract with me to go sign with them. Because me and him going at it, he's not gonna win neither, and you not gonna win. So what do you expect to happen? You know what I'm saying? Are we taking it to the streets? I do feel like he should shut the fuck up on the record and just have us think what he's gonna do next. But I do understand the fact of, like, nigga, like, none of you niggas gonna win.

[B]

We don't necessarily condone a lot of. Let me speak for myself. I don't condone taking it to the streets, but you don't have to do this either. You can do neither.

[F]

He should have shut the fuck up.

[B]

You could do neither.

[A]

That's all.

[D]

I don't have to be in your pocket. Like, I mean, you could make a good song or that.

[F]

What if two tough niggas is beefing? What if two. What if you Know a nigga over there you I know playing with you like this, I know what's gonna happen. What if what where are you at now? I know a lot of. Well in the streets where we from when two tough niggas is beefing a lot of times it's either casualty of war or they come together and they squash it. In this situation he don't feel like he's gonna squash.

[D]

It's way past squash it.

[F]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So what do you do?

[D]

Let him put out bad music. To me it's like I don't like the song but I'd rather see this than it go to the streets. If this is his outlet. Cause the other thing is like you've been publicly embarrassed. Oh you could play all that tough shit like the world saw you with a gun in your head.

[C]

He's not doing nothing to them.

[D]

I'm just saying he might want to. He might want to get. I can see him wanting to get him to express himself.

[C]

Pooh Shisty them they real gangsters.

[D]

Where they from?

[C]

They are actively. Absolutely a real gangster that went with his father. Pooh shisty mom just went viral for her ignorance. Not because when she looked like that what she's saying dead serious, no bullshit is so ignorant and ridiculous. It went viral and she basically just wants some that you know how we get down the fuck. And this is a 50 year old woman. So it's like I don't know. I want to add to what Joe was saying about Gucci. I feel like Gucci has never necessarily been like a nice guy. You know what I mean? Like taking the chains back from Big Scar do doing certain things do back in the day, you know. Now everybody blaming on drugs. But he never really was a nice guy. So the verse is kind of more speaks to his character than anything. You know what I mean? As far as I'm being a street nigga. Gucci ain't no street nigga. They are rich and he is medicated and that's what's going on. And I would be surprised if he really cooperates. He don't have to. It's enough witnesses and camera footage. They can do the case without him. He don't have to. But he that petty he might. It would be a fuck you. It wouldn't be a fear thing.

[A]

Angel, do you think that would damage his reputation?

[C]

He's already fucked. There's nothing he can do. He's fucked. That's what they're saying. You might as well just stop Rapping on top of the fact that. Cause on this song he's bragging about 10 seconds. 2017. Pooh Shiesty has been in jail the majority of the deal. Big Scarr is dead. Enchanted is dead. Like you. There's nobody successful off the whole drawing. Cause that was it.

[F]

Waka left.

[D]

That's a good point.

[C]

Waka left and that's it.

[F]

Long time ago.

[C]

Waka so far. But I'm seeing a new group.

[F]

The new group. Got it, got it, got it. I understand what I'm saying.

[C]

Those four, I mean two did and one that never really was on. It was like you can't even brag on the label. And then when. When he like refers to himself like he's Birdman and Cash Money. So you know you robbing them niggas. And I also think that's disgusting. Rappers that have been out and know how to game and then they get that chance to give people deals and they fuck them. I don't get that. I don't give a fuck what industry you in. If you were a rapper and you know what that feels like, why are you fucking people? Like that doesn't make any sense. Why not be fair with your shit? Like why?

[E]

I don't know they business, but I definitely second that.

[F]

Mother motion and a mic.

[D]

Me?

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, I definitely second that. I always say like, yo dog, to all these that be dissing the industry or dissing the labels. In my opinion. If, if I always say like, yo dog, if you got bullied before, right, because you, you ain't know how to fight, cool, you go start, start taking martial arts classes, you get your up. If you become a bully, you worse than the that bullied you. Karate bully like that. Didn't know that. Didn't know the game. And you learn the game and you start using that to weaponize. I think that shit is terrible. So I don't know they specifics today case, but I definitely second that.

[C]

If you to take a nigga chain after he dies crazy like that boy od, then he goes back to get the jury. That's not crazy.

[A]

Yes, it is crazy.

[C]

Yeah, like what? And then, then it was. It wasn't even like a hide a secret thing them family exposed. He was like, hell yeah, I went back to get my motherfucking thing. I gave it to him. Damn.

[D]

Yeah, it's hard to have sympathy for him. I just wish somebody heard the song or he played a song for somebody before he sent it out. Yeah, you could tell. You don't have community and people who love you if you put out a song?

[B]

Yeah. The bottom line is the song is not.

[F]

Sometimes you, sometimes you do.

[A]

I never even heard this nigga's rap voice be like this. He sound worried. He sound like he's concerned about things I've never heard.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Shut the. This nigga's nuts. It's a testimonial. I'm sure people were hitting him up all week asking his thoughts about the case. And when I. This was probably, like you said, his outlet to get his side of the story out. This nigga has never used or rapped the word tactical ever. And we cut it off before.

[D]

Cut it back.

[A]

Come on, cut it back.

[B]

Let's get. Let's get some more.

[A]

Let's get tactical.

[B]

Let's get back to this.

[E]

He'll make you stronger.

[A]

Don't bite the hand at these My

[C]

money keep getting longer now these haters got them kn. I got to move Tactical. Every move magical and I'm tactical.

[A]

Take a drink every time he says tactical. Yeah. Took the L. I don't. I don't know.

[F]

Sometimes you sit there. I sat there. And I hope that he took it. I hope that he stood tall. I ain't going to lie is I was. I hope that Gucci man holds it down.

[A]

You know why?

[D]

I know he offended talk, though, man.

[F]

But why you hold it down?

[C]

Don't testify.

[F]

Yeah, I hope he didn't testify. I hope that he just handled it like. Like how? How handle it?

[D]

That's what you hoped I did. And see, I'm not killing.

[F]

I didn't want any killing. Who knows? However, a couple ways to handle that situation. I didn't want him to go on the stand. I didn't want him to tell. Sometimes, like Joe said, I do agree with him on that point. Like, you wanna whatever street, you want them to live it to the end

[D]

of the day till they die.

[F]

Yeah, that's why I fuck with 50.

[A]

Does being a street nigga have extra?

[F]

Live it to the end of your days, nigga. I don't care. You can grow. I guess you can grow whatever internally. But, nigga, if you're gonna do it publicly, if you gonna act this way publicly, and if you're not gonna show us the process of your growth, nigga. Live it to the end of your days, nigga. My thing is, if you in the game, Italian mob.

[D]

My thing is, if you in the game, do operate within the rules of that game.

[A]

True.

[D]

But if you not. I'm not mad at him. I mean, the nigga somebody tried to kill him.

[F]

And he killed them, Right?

[D]

So you can talk about it then. Now, somebody tried to rob you, put a gun to your neck, busting your office. If you want to make a song about it. Here's the thing. He ain't even dropped. Everybody already know.

[F]

After he killed that guy. Do you know what he did? You know what he was saying after

[C]

he killed that guy?

[D]

Look, if you send somebody to kill me, I'll say whatever the fuck I want to.

[F]

But do you know what he was saying, what he was representing? Yo, y' all put money on my head. You know, Nigga, he.

[C]

That's what happened.

[F]

He motherfucking came out, the nigga. He didn't die.

[E]

Let me ask you a question.

[F]

He survived a hit, and he seemed like he didn't tell in that situation.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[F]

After that, he seemed like, I survived the hit. Nigga came and killed me.

[D]

I killed him.

[F]

And, yo, I'm rapping about it. Y' all niggas suck my dick. I'm saying, whatever. He did a thousand records. So now we like, oh, he's crazy. Then he signed a bunch of street niggas that sort of lived that life. Okay, this is his fucking character, and this is what he wants to do.

[D]

I'm with you, but that could still.

[F]

Now, this right here is a. I'm

[D]

not fucking with him. I get what you said saying. I'm saying that. Fucking with that there's a way that you reap what you sow like. And Joe said the same thing. When you create all this. I'm just saying, if I'm rooting for him to get out of all of that, and if the sign that he's out of all that is that he's making a song instead of doing more street shit, I don't care how offbeat it is.

[E]

Yeah, you gotta look at it from.

[C]

You said Gucci mane like a street nigga. That's how y'. All.

[A]

Is there a statue on being a street nigga?

[C]

Like, Yeah, I mean, that's what I was gonna say.

[D]

You can't get the clock out of that mace. You gotta make it clear, though, if

[C]

that's the case, then I'm a street still. Like, there's no way that you can't.

[F]

You showing your growth. You showing your growth.

[C]

It's not. No.

[D]

So is he on that rap song?

[C]

It's you. Either a civilian or you're not. You could be street adjacent, where you'll follow certain rules. You might not call police. You might not cooperate. But at the end of the day, to owe the street something, you have to be in them. To be in them is making money or putting money in the street. That's the first thing you gotta be doing street shit. So making money or putting money in the street. So in my opinion, if you sell drugs, bucks, right? If you get some type of street money, anything. If you're living off of money that you will go to jail and you can't make that money, you are a street person. Because then you can't utilize what the civilians use. Civilians work regular jobs, pay taxes, use police. If I'm a street person and I'm making my own money, I don't pay no taxes on it. If I have a problem, I gotta handle it by myself. That's how it goes.

[F]

He surrounded himself. You just named.

[C]

He surrounded himself like signing street guys. There's nothing, nothing to do with unit street.

[F]

What I'm saying after what he survived from and inside the street, he still was on that path of yo, this is what I am. I'm here to give the niggas outside in the streets a chance to make millions like how I made millions.

[E]

Still don't make him a street man.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

You keep mentioning the murder. Gucci Mane's murder was a rifle just killed. The same thing.

[A]

Some white people, self defense. One murder. Yeah.

[C]

Some white nigga in Ohio. The same thing. Somebody's breaking in your house, attempting to kill you. You kill them. It's legal. Beagle Steagall. That's it.

[F]

I'm aware of that.

[C]

So that's not no gangster shit.

[F]

We talking about after how he carried it. After.

[A]

I'm talking about half these niggas that run around saying, yo, no matter what, I will never talk to the cops about anything, nothing. Whatever you do, whatever I do, whatever we do, don't get no cops involved. Yeah, off to me like you trying to be a street. I pay taxes. Sometimes I want to use my taxpayer money to get one of these police or firemen over here to do some about some.

[F]

Cat in the tree.

[E]

Come get the cat out to fix the pothole.

[A]

I'm just saying when these be on some. Yo, I'm not talking to cops about anything in life that tells civilian Joe. Oh, that you. Oh, you playing a certain way.

[E]

Let me ask you a question. Right? Let me ask you a question. So I'm kind of quiet, cuz. I, I stand, I'm teetering. If, if he shot that dude, what,

[A]

10 years ago, over 10 years ago.

[C]

Way over, dog.

[E]

He might be a whole different man than he was 10 years ago.

[A]

Right?

[E]

So that's one thing I don't know these.

[A]

So they make a shirt that says, yo, I'm a whole different man than I was 10 years ago, cuz. I'm with Mark. These niggas clock out whenever the they

[D]

want to clock out.

[C]

On top of the fact that he saw he got sober. So I feel like him getting sober, he has carried himself, drinking, chit talking, he working out, bro.

[E]

He's carried himself and he's publicly said that I'm a different man than I was back then. He's handling himself in a business forum way different than they used to carry themselves. And I'm not the biggest Gucci fan or know about them. What I'm saying is that as a black man, to Mark's point, that we got to come to a point sometimes where we not really condoning some of this tomfoolery.

[D]

What's Tom foolery, you know?

[A]

I ain't condoning nothing from Pooh Shiesty. I don't think there are winners in the situation.

[E]

And so again, I'm not ratting on nobody. I'm not telling on nobody.

[F]

Exactly.

[E]

I'm standing on that.

[A]

But I might. What? What do you do?

[E]

But I'm not trying to involve myself.

[F]

No, you're not telling on nobody.

[A]

Yeah, depending on what he did, he

[F]

had plenty of time to tell on me. You ain't telling.

[E]

Stop.

[A]

The stakes are high. Now. You look in your account and see certain numbers missing and you know who did it.

[C]

You're going to jail, buddy.

[A]

Yeah, you're going to jail.

[E]

So my point to that is going to jail. I don't try to put myself in no shit where I got to be in nobody's room. I don't even want to know. So when I go in the room, if they pull me in a room, I could be like, no, I don't know. Put my fingers on what I don't know. But if you do know and you are playing the game to, to, to most point, like, yo, dog, you can't get in there and rat. I don't know. If he's no street, we characterizing him as a street. He might have been left street alone a long, long time ago.

[A]

It seems like he took a blood.

[E]

And I see a lot of that are street. Let's be the clear. I see a lot of that's bona fide street that have put in work in the streets, that have made mad

[D]

money in the streets, when they get

[E]

to a couple hundred million dollars, that goes out the window, bro.

[F]

Yeah, you're not.

[E]

Yeah, name some. No, no, I can name a bunch.

[F]

I can name way more. You're not cat you roll so dama.

[E]

No, I'll tell you off camera.

[C]

Yeah, like what are y' all talking about? Listen, and then when it comes, because you said like, is it a time thing with the streets? I think that in certain situations, like gangsters, bloods, Crips and all that, it's different rules to whether you can get in. I don't even know if you're allowed to leave. But just regular street shit. I just think it's a certain amount of time and it's the actions that you take, you know what I mean? So if you make certain moves and you're not making any money in the street, which most of the time mean you got a square job, job, you have a business, you know what I mean? Everybody know, everybody know the difference because. Shut up. Everybody knows you always in your laundry, man, you always in your soulful spot. It's a difference than when you was outside.

[E]

Let me ask you a question, okay?

[A]

Right.

[E]

And this, this is a real, real question to everybody.

[F]

Instead of questions, all your questions are real.

[E]

No, it's the people outside. Let's say you were in the streets, right? But you're no longer in the street. Yes sir. Came in your office, they set up a meeting, they put the bangers to your head.

[A]

Head.

[E]

You don't want to kill him, but you do want some justice recourse. You not going to go outside, strap up and kill him. You're not going to pay nobody to go kill him. But you do want recourse. What do you do in that instance?

[F]

I can't answer that. I know I can't answer.

[B]

Cuz the only answer is the answer, right?

[E]

You get what I'm saying? Like I'm not, I'm not with that.

[F]

I'm not saying I'm not taking the route that you think I'm taking. No, I, I, I'm not, I'm not answering that.

[E]

I already know.

[F]

I mean we'll figure it out when we figure it out.

[D]

Let me throw Gucci some belo on that same point. Figure out it wasn't like Gucci had to call 911 to get help.

[C]

That's another thing.

[D]

But that's why he ankle, I mean like he have to do.

[E]

But that's why he was supposed to shut up and not put the song out, right? Cuz now you Are sitting in the song saying, yo, I was under duress to some. You are ratting. Yeah, I think you are saying, yo, I was under duress. If Gucci man would have just shut up, not put nothing in out and said, yo, the court is going to handle it. I ain't say to nobody and shut the up. Then he had mad in the room like it was executives in that room. That's what some of them don't play by those street rules.

[D]

And it might have been some undercover.

[E]

Yeah, this is chat. So when you say you're a street,

[A]

is it a behavior or is it

[E]

actually that you live?

[C]

In my opinion, it. It's money based. Like, I mean, of course it's violence. You can't say you're not street, but still, somebody bother you, shoot them. That's the first thing you do. But to me, it's money based based. Once you get to the point where you can make money legally, then you can say you're not in the street. I don't even know why I'm going back and forth because that's what the

[D]

I think they might be talking about.

[F]

We talking about embodying the principles and morals of the street lifestyle. We're not talking about being in the street. We're talking about, yo, street. This is how I was street adjacent. This is how. Yeah, I guess this is how I was raised. This is what was taught to me and this is what I live by.

[A]

You're reformed so much.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

A person that's reformed, but they still operate with that sort of.

[F]

How many niggas we know from that came home from jail, Right.

[D]

That did a lot of years.

[F]

That was street niggas that come home and they preached positivity, but they still have the principles and morals that they had when they were in the streets. They're not doing none of that shit. They're not talking to no police. They're not doing anything.

[D]

But you still call them a street guy.

[F]

And we may be wrong for that, but yeah, I still call him.

[D]

It sounds like y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

This is six question to that, to

[C]

what you just said.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

So when you say they still have the same prison morals, and of course that means they don't speak to the police. But beyond that, do that mean they have issue with. They kill him, they pop him. Like, what are we talking about?

[E]

She going right where I was gonna go. That same that you just talked about. That's reformed. That preaches positivity.

[A]

Yeah, we need the fifth. We're not answering y'.

[F]

All I can answer. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm gonna ask you. They're not gonna put themselves in a position to be in. In a situation like this.

[E]

You answering the question.

[D]

You duck, somebody snatch a chain.

[E]

The question is, the same nigga that just came home from doing 30.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

That stands on this.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Cool. Let somebody do something to them or they family, what happens? Okay, I'm gonna put some money on his head and get him done.

[F]

Okay.

[E]

That's what I was born into.

[F]

And we just seen a. That just came over. Four niggas that came over doing 25 years and just killed somebody and went back. So it happens.

[D]

And we're saying that's a problem, and it is.

[F]

And we call them idiots. So it's what side of the fucking poll you on?

[E]

And that's why I said I'm teetering the line.

[D]

Why are we teetering? This is the shit that's crazy to me. Only in this culture, and only in this culture. I don't pathologize. But black people. I'm saying, like, only in unhealthy cultures is that a thing that we should be. Because I get the teeter. I'm not criticizing ish. I'm saying, like, when up, shit happens. My instinct is not to call the police, too. And I don't call the police.

[F]

Yeah, you go to the trunk.

[D]

I'm with you.

[F]

That's what you do.

[D]

That's some unhealthy shit.

[F]

So teach yourself.

[D]

I'm saying it's fucked up. He's saying he. I'm saying I mark him up too. I'm saying we're all up. This is some unhealthy shit that we're literally saying, well, if somebody busted my house, smack my kids, steal my tv, set my house on fire, I don't know what to do. I'm in a quandary. I could either get him taken away or I could kill him and go to jail. And look, I don't trust the police. I don't believe in police. I'm an abolitionist. It's not like I'm saying we need new solutions, but I'm saying the healthy response is not to go kill people. And like, now all the shit that's happened, this last thing I said, while all this shit is happening in the streets, all this sh. Happening with Gucci and pooshi ice and all that shit. Most of the smoke I see on the Internet is for the dude that made a song about getting robbed and not the dude that did the robbing. That's just Fucked up to me.

[C]

Crazy.

[D]

That's some unhealthy. That's some sick shit.

[A]

What do you think people want Gucci to do?

[C]

That's the thing that I'm saying.

[F]

Shut up.

[D]

They want him to say nothing.

[A]

Just say nothing.

[C]

But before the song, like, he's already

[A]

caught y' all trying to paint Gucci like Tekashi.

[E]

No, he's not.

[A]

That's what it's starting to sound like.

[F]

He did a whole live and said, I'm not calling the police. I don't think. No, hold on. He did a live saying, I'm not calling the police. I don't believe in police. I put money on your head. I'm coming to get it myself. It's alive on the Internet while he was in the pool, while he was skinny.

[D]

How long ago?

[F]

Last year.

[A]

You're saying, what do we want Gucci to do if he's a civilian? Act like a civilian. And again, I'm saying it's as if I don't give a about all that as a civilian. I'm saying he looks absolutely nuts. But if you are a civilian, be a civilian.

[C]

Yeah, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

That's the part where I'm y' all losing me at. He's a rapper. So if I'm already in this. If I'm already. If I'm already. I don't know why we acting like Gucci, man. Not that I don't know if y' all not Gucci fans.

[A]

I'm a fan.

[D]

I'm just saying that song.

[C]

Oh, okay. The song. Cuz I'm starting to, like, get that, like, Gucci ain't him in here. And that's very.

[D]

I'm just clowning this song.

[C]

Okay. I was making sure.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Because yes, the song is ass. I think the song is ass because I'm rapping it with him on the first time I hear it. That's why I thought it was ass first. Second, y' all are confused me because if I'm in a rap game, right, And I make money off being a rapper, yes, I'm going to get his gangster image. That's what rappers do, right? Right now, today, if one of them that give a gangster image came in court a case and got in trouble, we will all be dogging him for. For risking his life and all this other Bobby Shmurda and all my. You drag niggas like Bobby Schmurda. When I really believe that when you pushing like that, you don't think you gonna make it. So, yes, you talking in these Songs because you don't think the song gonna get that big where people gonna put it together and FBI gonna be listening. Stupid. Still, people forget that part, right? If. Why can't he still stay in the same game, stay with the same gangster image and be a civilian. That's almost like y' all acting like the reason being that he's signing it now. What Joe said about laying with pigs, you get dirty. That totally makes sense. Because even with Scar and the chant, they died the same way. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, you're not even looking for people. That's on the up and up. But again, it's his job. Like, don't they ask that what we do in rap?

[D]

I think the one issue people have is that if you want to just rap, be a rapper, a performer, a Persona, and keep a street image, then you don't make a song like this. Cause it's dry snitching.

[A]

Yeah, I would agree with you.

[D]

You could just say nothing. Which. Just hearing the song itself, I wish he had said nothing.

[A]

Gucci's probably under a lot of pressure to say something, right?

[D]

And he probably. Some of it's internal, so sometimes you just wanna say something like, all this shit is happening. You embarrassed, you mad, you want revenge. Sometimes all you got, and all you got is that boof. Cause you're not gonna kill nobody and you don't wanna call the police. What the fuck? I mean, it was still a bad choice, but I at least understand how his mind got him there. I just wish he'd made a difference.

[E]

I don't understand how he made the song.

[A]

Pack that nigga up.

[E]

I would've never made this violin thing is.

[B]

The song sucks, okay?

[D]

It is terrible.

[C]

I think whatever he thought it was going to do is doing the opposite. You know what I mean? It's not. It's doing. He turned the comments off, but I also think that he was.

[A]

He turned the comments off. It's never. It's never good when you got to cut the comments also.

[C]

That's. Leave them on. I don't do that. I don't cut my comments on.

[A]

You cut the comments off after all of that mother money. I sent them back in a bag.

[D]

I put them in the dirt.

[A]

Get him the out of here, man. The truth was a hard dis. I don't want to hear none of this. This Gucci, man.

[D]

Yeah, I don't.

[A]

I'm off it.

[F]

All right.

[A]

Remember the Truth. Yes, the. That made that dis record. You know what Mona's right. It got to be like Skinny Luther and Fat Luther. Now, seriously, cuz, the that made that dis record. He was and the that made this dis record.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Gucci.

[A]

It's not the same person.

[C]

We not about to do that to

[A]

the original Gucci or get Fat Gucci especially.

[C]

We both agree that when. When rappers are addicted to drugs and totally fucked up, that's their best shit most of the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I want you to get better.

[A]

Not really.

[C]

You know what I mean? I love fucked up Kodak. That's my favorite Kodak.

[A]

I thought him having the fucking. The. The rights to Pooh Shiesty meant he would rap less. They didn't want to hear this nigga rap. No, I don't.

[D]

I don't.

[F]

I'm not trying to make the other side win, Joe. That's all.

[C]

Are those numbers floating around real about how much he made off who? Shiesty? Total? I don't know.

[F]

I have no idea.

[A]

I have no idea. Yeah. What was the fake number? What was the number?

[B]

28 million or some.

[D]

I don't see that number.

[B]

Something.

[C]

I could see it.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

This was huge. I could see it. Yes. I could see it. Really pooting them was killing it at first, I'm telling y'. All. And that's the thing that's so frustrating with Pu shy because that first day out went crazy. You ain't even chill and let it or even.

[F]

I'm sorry.

[D]

M to cut you off.

[F]

You see, that's why I can't compare him and Bobby Schmurda. Right? Bobby Schmurda, murder was niggas in the streets that got a deal was still living in the streets.

[C]

Y' all didn't compare him, babe.

[D]

No, no, no.

[F]

But you was like n looked at. Nobody looked at Bobby Smurda to make fun of him when he went to jail. Like you said, niggas looking at him stupid. Nobody did that. Pooh Shiesty niggas look at him like that. Cause, nigga, you just came home. You just came home. You haven't even been home for about two months, nigga. And you fucking go there with your ankle monitor and do that. We have to look at him different. Like, nigga, either you just don't give a fuck or you just.

[C]

He went with his dad. He was raised fucked up.

[A]

Let me tell you in closing. Yeah, in closing. Cause we've been at this for a second.

[F]

Yeah, we have, homie.

[A]

This is how I know that Gucci is not the same person I Don't care where I am and what I. If I'm ordering a pizza and Pooh Shiesti calls me to say, let's meet up for a meeting. I'm going to get 300 people and 300 grunts.

[E]

Or you gonna just go get the hired police Security. That your newfound success in business Accurate.

[A]

Not two of them told you to go there.

[D]

We were having a team meeting.

[A]

Not two of them. Zoom. See, that's the other thing.

[D]

Yeah, word.

[A]

We will be on Zoom.

[D]

Right. And my camera gonna be off that.

[A]

But that's the other thing. Don't get on a song talking all this big money, big money. And you got two security guards.

[E]

No off duty police officers.

[A]

If Pooh Shiesty hit me to go apple picking, I would go round up as many niggas as I could possibly find.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

These niggas is nuts, man.

[C]

It's crazy.

[A]

I love apples.

[C]

Rise and fall of them. They whole squad done.

[D]

There's a lesson in this family.

[E]

I hate all of this urban shit because all of the black labels and all that shit we see go through inner turmoil. That be fucked up.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And all the white niggas just do

[A]

is reap the benefit.

[B]

I would say, oh, there's some successful ones that really don't happen. Yeah, maybe not as many as we'd like to see.

[D]

But I just hate that all the fucked up ones happen. Not all, but a lot of the fucked up ones happen with us. There's a lot of successful ones that don't. I just hate, like you said, how many, how disproportionate the bad ones are.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

It just again, as I get older, 10 years ago, I know what I'd be saying something different, maybe even 10 months ago. But now I just. I just can't take. I'm just watching this and I'm like, this is a death culture and we got to do something about it. Not all of hip hop, but this genre, this strand. You know what it was when I seen. When I was in Philly a couple years ago, when dude was digging up my man grave.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He got killed. I'm like, yo, this is sick. This ain't even about music no more. This is just.

[A]

This ain't never gonna change.

[C]

You know, he's going now.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And they kill him.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. It's like. And then part of you was like, well, I mean, he did do. You know. And so then you end up in this space where you starting to justify people dying.

[A]

You tried in the 80s with self destruction. We tried in the 90s with Farrakhan. Ain't gonna work. It's always gonna be this way, unfortunately.

[C]

See, that's so grim.

[A]

I don't believe that at all.

[B]

I don't believe that's true.

[E]

You don't believe what?

[A]

It's gonna always be this way.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, I think things change. I think the young. Because the young people are the future. They the ones that change. And I. Young people. They. Some of them.

[A]

It won't be humans in the music business at some point. Oh, okay.

[E]

If that's your angle, cool.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But I'm.

[F]

I'm.

[E]

I'm online with him. If you start saying that in hip hop, we talking about just hip hop, dog. They are purposely finding the young boy from the worst of the worst of the worst conditions and signing them to up deals.

[B]

Some. Some because I don't want to. There's Dreamville Exists. TDE exists. OVO exists. Griselda. Even though they might have their own little tiffs here and there. Exist. There's a bunch of people that exist where it's not murder, death, kill, and actually doing it right. And it's successful. So I don't want to paint like the entire hip hop is some death.

[E]

It's some that be going behind closed doors and a bunch of these labels that don't know about that be related to murder, deaf, kill.

[B]

Okay, but we're talking about the. That's publicized.

[E]

Yo. The essence of hip hop is a street thing. And so a lot of times the people from the streets got one foot in, one foot out. They trying to get a better way. But if you cross me, I can go right back to where I just left in a blink of an eye. And so I think that that's the thing.

[A]

And you won't get no hip hop money no more.

[E]

The streets in it. We just seen a nigga risk it.

[A]

But the streets in music have always been intertwined, even since, like, Frank Sinatra.

[D]

He was connected.

[F]

He was. But there's levels.

[D]

I don't.

[F]

No, no, he was. Them niggas was connecting back in the day.

[D]

Yeah, Frank was. He was. He was Johnny Fontaine from the Godfather. Yeah, I get it. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying, though, there are levels.

[A]

That's how New York got all that burned. We gonna talk about Frank's notion.

[F]

He was.

[D]

He was a pure boy.

[F]

He was black people.

[D]

He was a pure boy. Even with self destruct. I mean, like, I'm old enough to remember when Skyler Rock got killed. I'm old enough to remember when shit was happening in the streets. I know y' all were too.

[C]

Scott Rock got killed.

[F]

Holy shit.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Marvin Gaye too.

[A]

You heard Lincoln got. No, he didn't.

[D]

You heard Lincoln. She's gonna be crushed when she's about mlk.

[C]

All. All of y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Yo, that scar. That's funny.

[A]

Holy. I don't know who that is.

[E]

You don't know who.

[B]

Scholar Rock, Boogie Down Production.

[E]

Ks. That's.

[D]

He just got the rock. He got anyway. All right.

[C]

Don't ever play.

[D]

They always got paid. They would take the Wackus song and make it better.

[F]

You don't.

[E]

Crazy.

[C]

Flip is for real. Don't know how young you are.

[A]

He's our age.

[B]

He just

[D]

25 and flip is the

[C]

youngest one up here.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[F]

I was making a point a year.

[D]

The point I was making was I'm old enough to remember These deaths in hip hop, they've always existed. Street has always existed, but now it's to another level. And I think we do ourselves a disservice by acting like it's all the same. Other genres have violence, they have death, they have crime. They got all that shit. Hip hop ain't the only one. But again, I don't want to compare Frank Sinatra allegedly potentially having some tie to the La Cosa Nostra, to what we see with the deep gang involvement and involvement that's happening in these cultures. And actually. And honestly, even if it was the same, I don't give a fuck what they do a hundred years ago.

[A]

If they stop.

[E]

That's the bigger part.

[C]

Did they stop. Stop signing people that were a liability. If they just stop signing people, meaning you checking in. It's not a liability if you're on probation. If you.

[E]

Because they make more money, it's not a liability.

[C]

And then we gonna take me that we're. It's never gonna change where I wanna die.

[E]

And then we gonna take insurance. And then we gonna take insurance out on you. So even when you die, we get more money.

[D]

The evidence is on B side. The odds on B initial side, you know, it's more likely not to change and to change. But we have to always go against the odds. We have to always believe. I keep a faith in the people. That we can do something different. And that's why I'm still hopeful.

[A]

Pack Gucci. Man up.

[B]

That's all sucked.

[F]

We got it.

[A]

We. I wish he had. I wish he had the Russell's engineer. He didn't help very much.

[E]

I know.

[A]

Somebody else is in Effing scent.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, gosh.

[A]

Listen, man.

[B]

What time is it, Joe?

[A]

Time to pay some bills.

[D]

Thought it was time for. Oh, eulogy.

[B]

We'll get to that.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

O. I got some words fresh off the.

[B]

Fresh off the.

[A]

I can't wait to hear Mark's.

[B]

Me too. Me too.

[D]

It's not what you think it's going to be.

[A]

I don't. I don't have a thought on.

[D]

We're talking about Blondie, right?

[F]

No, we talk about

[A]

Blondie. Blondie died.

[D]

Blondie died?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Who?

[C]

Wait.

[D]

Deborah Harry.

[A]

What? Blondie died?

[D]

No. You talking about Y. Yes and Y. Y. I'm talking about Blondie didn't die. No. From the rap. Never mind. Go to your favorite part of the show.

[A]

I'll take it. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show.

[F]

Prize Picks.

[A]

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[E]

Eleven and a half rebounds and assists.

[A]

Oh, yeah, chalk it up.

[B]

A lot of them spurs guys is good bread.

[D]

Yeah, they tough.

[B]

Yeah, they tough.

[A]

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[D]

Right. I just want to point out I did my first prize picks yesterday.

[B]

Hey, welcome to the club.

[D]

Yes. I'm feeling really good about myself. I feel like Sam Rothstein or some shit. Man, what took you so long?

[A]

See if I want to see if your answer supports my theory about you.

[D]

It was really just like, it's not available where I live.

[A]

Oh, yes, that's cop. Yeah.

[D]

So I have to go somewhere to do it, and when I be there, I don't be thinking about it. And I was like, let me do it. You know, you think I'm an addict and I have addictive behavior and I was scared to start. No, because that might be the other answer.

[A]

No. I think that when you see people getting a lot of money somewhere, like Parks has happened to do last week, I think. I think your antennas go up.

[D]

I mean, that was a reminder. But Corey be winning. I come in early and people be talking about it. Corey and Ian and them be talking about it. I just always forget. But then I was sitting at the bar yesterday in New York waiting for my food.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And hey, whatever, bro. And I was like, let me open Addictive behaviors.

[D]

I mean, let me see what happened, what I could do with Jaylen. It was like Kevin Durant for over 20, 25 and Jalen Brunson for over six and a half of six. Made me a few stacks.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Oh, shit.

[D]

Yeah. I was like, oh, you.

[A]

Are you a hit? Yeah. Yeah. Malcolm gonna have a good birthday.

[D]

No, he not. And my wife don't listen to this much of the podcast.

[C]

You hit off the first try.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Damn, Mark.

[D]

Yeah, I did pretty good.

[C]

What'd you do last week?

[B]

Nothing.

[C]

That's crazy.

[D]

Not as more than me.

[A]

Big. Come on. 40k the up.

[B]

He's lying.

[A]

Not, not. Not by a lot. Where is way.

[D]

Guess he's trying to see what you.

[A]

I wouldn't put his business at it. But not by a lot.

[E]

I wouldn't put his business out.

[F]

He's lying.

[A]

Right after I put his business out.

[D]

Well, I'm be taking my little trips a little more often now.

[A]

25k.

[B]

You trying to get to the bottom. I get it. I'm telling you off air.

[A]

You told me off air.

[B]

Oh, I did okay.

[A]

He hit. Look at him. That nigga did look different this morning. Look at him. That prospects close.

[E]

It's some new jail.

[A]

Got the good. The good shit get the good now. Some new jail. Went to the mall a couple days ago and finally stopped by the Young black kids booth that I curse out every time I go. Anytime I go there. Joe support 25 doing it to them. Get the out. Why you keep doing it to them? Hey, leave me. Would you leave me alone when I walk by? I said that to these at least. Yeah, they got a video of it 29 times. Right? I thought these would sell, like, shoes or some. It's a cleaner. No, no, take socks.

[E]

I bought a socks.

[A]

No, no, no. These people that I'm talking about right outside of the Apple store in the mall, they got all types of black shea butter mixed with pineapple mango. Man, I bought that whole. That work. It's good too.

[C]

That's. What does that say? Us ladies and gentlemen, stay down until

[A]

you come up or until you run into Joe.

[C]

I know. It's true, though, because in his comments, this was like, oh, I'm all you. You're always at the mall I work at.

[A]

But the shade better might work differently on you.

[E]

Why? Oh, God, my skin better, right? It might make my shit glow.

[A]

Exactly, exactly, Exactly. All right, come on, let's stay on. Let's stay on jail business, right? Ah, rest in peace, k slay. Rest in peace k slay indeed. This fuck. Are you just trying to make me sad? The whole episode lock it reminded me of like, God damn it, Slate.

[F]

You've been passed away, right?

[A]

Case late died Mona.

[C]

I knew that.

[B]

Recipes the legend, my man.

[A]

Did he.

[B]

Yes, he did.

[D]

Oh, oh, not did he did de.

[B]

I see.

[F]

Hey, y' all running from me, yo.

[A]

All right, Nobody said nothing.

[F]

Y' all running from me.

[A]

You be trying to. Yeah, I'm one of you lo.

[F]

Y' all running from me, yo.

[B]

What are we running for?

[F]

He running from the eulogy. This nigga Mark Lama here.

[D]

Go ahead.

[E]

Usually we.

[D]

We talking about jail, I mean, which

[F]

I guess could connect exactly a that avoided jail.

[D]

Yeah, we get to it. But I want to talk about Diddy.

[A]

First Puff lawyers are Fallon for him to be released immediately under the grounds of. He was in there just doing adult sex stuff.

[B]

Uhhuh.

[A]

First Amendment shit.

[E]

It's deeper than that. They basically said that he was convicted based on the rules of the man act, which basically, ironically, which is an act that they kind of implemented to stop Jack Johnson and all of the black entertainers.

[A]

Really.

[E]

From white chicks.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

That was really what they tried to stop him from doing.

[B]

But he was Jackie Johnson.

[A]

I stopped.

[E]

Nigga come home, stop Chubby Checkering.

[F]

Yo, dog, stop, man.

[E]

So basically I. I think his lawyers and what they said kind of made sense. It's it's basically saying that he was flying in whomever he flew in for acts that were not based on commercial purposes. Because they said that the. One of the stipulations is based around commercial purposes. So he like, yo, we was just doing this shit on some personal shit. It wasn't like. Like he was selling the shit or like packaging it up and releasing it for profit.

[D]

Here's what his lawyer said. Freak offs and hotel nights were nightly choreographed. Excuse me. Highly choreographed sexual performances involving the use of costumes, role play and stage lighting which were filmed so Combs and his girlfriends could watch this amateur pornography later. Pornography production and viewing of this sort is protected by the First Amendment and thus cannot constitutionally be prosecuted.

[A]

Things be hiding behind that First Amendment amendment.

[E]

Yo, yo, listen. Loophole is a loophole. My thing is this like even. Even for commercial purposes, it kind of didn't make sense when I started reading about it. Because if that's the case, if you live in New York and you fly to LA to shoot some porn and they. They wrap it up and they sell it, what's the difference? Kind of.

[A]

You get what I'm saying?

[E]

It's a.

[B]

No one likes porn with condoms on.

[A]

Ish. Carry on.

[E]

What condoms came from?

[B]

Wrap it up. Carry on.

[E]

No, I'm just saying. So like it was a fine line to me on how you want to interpret the law. I'm not saying Puff ain't a piece of shit or I don't feel like these niggas. But what I'm saying is when you start adhering to the letter of the law, his lawyers have a very good case.

[A]

Do you think they try and make an example out of Puff because his lawyers said this is the most time anyone has ever been convicted of.

[E]

Yes. For similar history for those charges. Yes. Like for him to have gotten four years for those charges. That was already.

[D]

To me, not just amateur porn is a tough argument. It's a creative argument. And if I were him, I'd want my lawyer making it. And if I were the lawyer, it's probably the best argument you could make. I think the question they're gonna have to deal with is not was this stuff videotaped, which is a fact, but was the primary purpose of these acts to make amateur pornography or were they doing sex acts that just happened to get videotaped? Cause for Puff's lawyers argument to hold to obtain it would mean that basically all this shit was being done so that we could make this production.

[B]

Isn't the prostitution the thing?

[A]

Yes, the soliciting is a thing. The cross state lines is a thing.

[D]

Unless I'm hiring them as actors to be or performers to be in my porn.

[A]

Commerce has to be exchanged. Right?

[D]

And this is where it gets tricked. That's what I'm saying. That's where it gets tricky, right? Because if I pay you to be in you, if I pay first, do way better. If I

[B]

Idris.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

If I'm paying you to be in part of this amateur porn, then it's a different argument. That's what I'm saying. It's a creative argument. I just don't know if the court's gonna buy it.

[E]

But who's the determining factor? They've said even in the court cases that they would go back and look at what they did. Him and Shorty would go back and watch the tapes. So he can now say, even documented, that me and my girl would go back and watch the sex tapes.

[D]

But then is every time someone has sex and videotapes it, is that always amateur porn by definition? That's the question I'm trying to get.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. It's just the person that is ingesting the facts and determining whether they tell. If you and your wife make porn and y' all go back and watch it later on, cool. Let's say you and your wife decided to hire a chick or hire a dude to join y', all and y' all go back and watch it later on. Who's to say that that's not amateur porn that y' all are enjoying at a later time?

[A]

But I think the issue is, at the later time, my wife says, hey, that's not what was happening. I was being forced, I was being coerced. I didn't want to do some of these things. I was being like, if your wife contradicts what you're saying, then what?

[F]

Which is what?

[D]

Testimony has been.

[B]

Just for curiosity, I went to the wiki page in the entry says, in July 20, July 2, 2025, he is found guilty of two counts of transportation for the purposes of prostitution. If you're hiring prostitutes for a porn, you're still hiring prostitutes.

[D]

No, but then. No, but hold on. If I'm hiring them for the porn, then it's not prostitution.

[B]

Why?

[D]

Because they're actors.

[E]

They're actors.

[A]

They ain't got no sad card.

[D]

It's only prostitution if I'm not going to porn.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Okay, but then it's like, what's the testimony of the sex workers? Are they saying, hey, I was hired to do amateur porn. Are they saying, I was hired to fuck?

[B]

That's a good point.

[D]

And that's what I say. It's gonna be hard to. It's a good, creative argument. I just don't know if it's contradicted by the testimony.

[E]

The sex workers have already testified that,

[A]

yeah, they rocking with him.

[E]

And they testified to Puff, and a couple of them are now suing Shorty.

[A]

Okay, Right.

[E]

So some of the sex workers are

[A]

suing and a few more are suing him too.

[E]

Suing Puff?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I didn't know. I know some of them are suing cats.

[A]

The male sex workers are suing.

[E]

I know some of them are suing. A couple of the dudes are suing cast. Cassie. But also some of the dudes said, I've never spoken to Puff. I've never had any interaction with Puff. I've only spoken to Cassie. Cassie's the person that hired me, not Puff.

[A]

Right.

[E]

So that's what they're saying. So to your point, when you're saying, now you go back and say, yo, I want to do these things now, It's. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying. I'm not taking a side. I'm just being objective and saying, yo, I never spoke to this man. I got hired by her. She's saying she enjoyed these things. She's publicly said she enjoyed. Enjoyed the freak offs and was having freak offs even when Puff wasn't there.

[A]

Okay?

[E]

It's a gray line. That's all I'm saying. It's a gray line. Sometimes reasonable doubt is enough to get me the fuck out of here, to impose some gray lines.

[C]

I got a question.

[D]

It'd be better at trial than a reasonable doubt as opposed to now.

[A]

It should have been.

[C]

I got a question. Is this because the first thing I'm thinking, as a civilian myself, the first thing I'm thinking is, well, where did this come from? Why you did. Why didn't they just use this, you know, this angle while they were at trial? But of course, the answer I'm thinking is they were already going to plan to appeal as many times as they can. And it's just their first shot at appeal.

[D]

Yeah. And I think this is a better argument for appeal probably than at trial. That's my sense. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to. But based on what I've heard lawyers say about this particular situation, that seems to be the argument. I've also heard lawyers say in the last 24 hours that this is a strong argument. They're not saying it's gonna win, but they're saying, like, this is. If you gonna appeal, this is the.

[A]

I don't think anything. Any argument he presents is gonna win just cause of how I feel they feel about him. Yeah, like you turned down the $50 million bail nine times. I feel like we don't want you out of here.

[C]

Agreed.

[D]

But appellate court may have a different disposition. That's true. Because, you know, at different courts, sometimes you have a conservative justice, sometimes you have a liberal justice. Sometimes you might have somebody who's on the bad boy tour. You never know. You know what I'm saying? You may look up and get the right. The right judges for your appeal. You just don't know. And some people are about the procedure and the letter of the law, as

[E]

opposed to any emotional bias that you may have based on seeing him beat up. Cassie, I think all of those things played a part in him not getting exonerated. And I also think they played a part in his sentencing.

[D]

Yeah, agree.

[E]

Like, that's the bigger thing. Like you can go find niggas that really pimp for a living and they don't get four years in jail fed time for their first offense.

[D]

Yeah, this was.

[E]

I'm talking about niggas that wake up

[A]

putting their foot in the. You know what I mean?

[E]

They don't get that. So I think a lot of bias played a part in his sentencing. So you might get the right again. Appellate court judge that just goes by the letter of the law and let him go.

[D]

It wouldn't shock. I don't.

[E]

Or give some of his time back.

[D]

What do you mean?

[E]

He's done over a year and a half already.

[D]

Yeah, maybe two years.

[E]

It's going on two years.

[C]

Not coming home on bail all that time. I think that he still has a harder way to go than a regular person because he's rich as fuck and he's black on top of the fact of him being famous. So it's like, just like I was saying, some judges are this way, some judges are that way. Some judges just see rapper, just see black men.

[A]

They don't care.

[C]

Yeah. So.

[D]

And they won't care. What are your predictions? You think this. You think he wins this or no?

[A]

No, no.

[E]

I think he comes home. I think they eat some of the time. I think was about to look to see when he got locked up. They could potentially give him time serve if he did two years.

[C]

Hell, no.

[E]

He could get time served. He only got sentenced to four.

[C]

He Walk out at that day. Yeah. Come on.

[B]

He was arrested September 2024.

[D]

So about a year and a half.

[E]

Yeah, he got a year and a half.

[C]

He pushed it to you.

[A]

That time is flying. Yes, it is.

[D]

That's what everybody not in jail say. Time sure is flying, bro.

[E]

September 2024.

[D]

I'm sure he don't feel that way.

[E]

40, 48 months. 40 months. Whatever his sentence had been.

[C]

Wait a minute, you. That's when he got sentenced. That's when he got arrested. We got arrested. That's what we talking about.

[D]

He been locked up for a year and a half.

[A]

You ain't never lie, boy. That time dude go slow in jail, boy.

[E]

Yo, CEO, what time is it? 10:12.

[A]

CEO, what time is it?

[E]

Yo, you go to sleep.

[D]

10:15.

[A]

Yo, you go to sleep, you wake

[E]

up thinking you had the best nap in the world. Yo, CEO, what time? At 1105. Man, you just asked me. You like, damn.

[D]

The fuck I thought.

[E]

Some.

[F]

Everybody. Not like you. You had a lot of connects when you got locked up. Had the phone in there, you know what I'm saying?

[D]

Had the food.

[F]

We heard about you, boy.

[D]

It's a long weekend.

[F]

We heard about you, boy.

[C]

Long weekend.

[F]

And I wouldn't be surprised if you was chilling with the. After you came home. Yo, you looked out for me. So when I come home, I'mma shout you out on the pod. I know your tricks on the pod.

[A]

Him and I used to be selling pod shout outs.

[F]

Yeah, he started doing that. Hey, yo, shout out to the. Yo, we know your tricks.

[A]

Yeah, you never kept in touch with Shorty. That when you got locked up at the pod and you was like the sheriff or whoever that was?

[F]

Yeah, that's what I'm talk about. He kept in touch.

[A]

He was cool with the water.

[F]

He got her gr. Look.

[C]

You got locked up.

[A]

Oh, God. That's my son.

[F]

You a dirty. Look at this.

[C]

They talking. I just.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Catch him on up.

[E]

Yeah, I'm ignoring these guys.

[B]

It's important.

[F]

Yo, you got.

[A]

Got the.

[F]

You got the sheriff. Graham. The sheriff Graham.

[A]

God, like, why. This is nuts.

[F]

Why you playing like y cu. We.

[E]

We got a broadcast I don't like.

[F]

Like that.

[A]

You're right. He ain't been locked up since. He ain't been locked up since. Boy, is he.

[E]

Oh, I just haven't committed any crime since.

[A]

That's. That's not true. That's not true. I don't want to be Vlad, but anyway, come on. On more jail. More jail. Come on, y' all Twisted my arm a little bit on the. On the puff this Matthew Perry. I'm standing strong.

[B]

Oh, this is a quick hit. It's pretty interesting. Let's do it. Eric Adams is now Albanian.

[A]

Congratulations.

[F]

All right, come on, come on.

[D]

I called you.

[E]

You can't tell him how he identifies.

[A]

Are we talking about?

[B]

He's been granted citizenship by Albania.

[A]

Okay, we'll go, Eric.

[B]

Adam just thought it was important.

[A]

They do be in them hookah spots.

[E]

Get them multiple passports ready.

[A]

Hey, man, he was telling that bitch on Delta off, boy. Oh, he was?

[D]

Yo.

[A]

Yeah, I ain't the mayor no more, mama.

[F]

Come on.

[A]

More jail shit. The lady that drugged and killed Matthew Perry got from friends. Matthew Perry from friends got 15 years. I think she should have got more. Ish. Thinks she'd have got less. And we're about to fight about it.

[C]

Is the lady that went to jail the doctor, or is she the middleman?

[A]

I think she was a dealer.

[B]

A street pharmacist.

[C]

I thought they were going after the doctors.

[A]

They cracking down on the dealers these days.

[C]

I've read the book.

[E]

No, they cracking down on dealers. If you are responsible for some white famous person being killed, they not cracking down on dealers that killed Ray Ray and Kit Kat over there in the Bronx or North.

[C]

Awesome.

[A]

Ray Ray died.

[C]

Awesome.

[F]

He's my man.

[C]

Also, ketamine has been used. Been found to be, like, useful in a lot of situations. Therapeutic. People getting off drugs with ketamine, people curing depression with ketamine. So I don't know, I watched a documentary about somebody getting their kid ketamine in Mexico and that was like the only thing that was helping them. I don't know. I read Matthew Perry's book. Like, you know, you suffer.

[D]

Oh, don't say that. Around here you're not allowed to read books.

[B]

No, I mentioned not memoirs.

[D]

Not that Brandy fiasco last week.

[A]

No, not in a day. Like a geek who wrote a book in a day. Mark. Mark read five books.

[C]

You. You. Takes you a day to read.

[D]

Yes, but Matthew Perry, Goodwill hunting ass.

[A]

How about them apples?

[F]

Hey, Y.

[A]

Hey.

[F]

Hey, papa. I hope you're proud I'm reading

[D]

My dead father.

[A]

Oh, hope you're proud. You play with his family.

[F]

Apologize. He play.

[D]

He playing with my.

[B]

That's a new Damn.

[A]

Yo. I said wait. That's what you was doing.

[F]

No, I did it. Damn M. I didn't say that. It's okay. N. Cuz you gonna play a mod, be upset.

[D]

So stop play.

[F]

My wife hit me up too. Heard what you said. Stop it, man.

[D]

No, she didn't.

[F]

Yeah, she did. She watch. Oh, that's what's up. Why you letting feel like you're not coming home? Yeah.

[D]

Where was you at when she told you you that? My wife hit me up.

[A]

I want to ask you before this topic continues, are you of the belief that the same resources used to find to find the killer of Matthew Perry should be the same resources used to find the killer of Ray Ray and Kit Kat?

[E]

Absolutely. I think for justice to be carried out equally is not a bad thing. Not something that is a farce.

[C]

But a drug dealer though, what are we talking about?

[E]

Ideally? Ideally, I live in a real world. I'm saying that ideally, if you gonna expend these resources for this human being, the same resources need to be expended for that human being.

[A]

Oh, just ideally.

[E]

Yeah. That's what creates all the inequities that we face today.

[A]

All lives matter, Joe. When I first got in the streets at 14 years old, one of the very first lessons, not for me, was if you're gonna kill a motherfucker, kill somebody that motherfuckers ain't looking for and don't care about. Yeah, that was one of the first things they told me. So why would I think that Matthew Perry resources gonna be used for the crackhead and the baby? That just seems silly to me.

[E]

No, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is should. These are tax, tax paying citizens and so I think that it should be distributed accordingly.

[A]

But my ping pong I wanna have with you. Like I, I, I think that this is the case. I think your statement is true. I just think it's true for famous people. Yeah, I think there's a crossroads where it can get racial, but for the most part I think it's a famous people thing. Michael Williams drug dealers, they got them niggas in a week. That is true.

[E]

They found them.

[C]

They did, they did.

[A]

And served them up. Mac Miller drug dealers. That one took a little longer, but

[E]

the dude from packed him up, the dude from Mission Impossible, he lived.

[A]

You keep saying, who is that?

[E]

The white dude. Parks Norm. The white hair, white guy. I forgot his name. He had pretty good, I thought it

[B]

was Philip Seymour, but I don't think that.

[E]

Pretty good, pretty good actor. He's been in a few things. But my thing is just this like, yo, and you giving somebody 15 years.

[D]

15 years, a lot.

[E]

That's a lot of time.

[D]

By the way, the doctor who they got last December got I think like 18 months or.

[E]

Yeah, like dog.

[D]

In what case For Matthew Perry's doctor.

[C]

Yeah, I knew the doctor.

[D]

Matthew Perry's doctor also was convicted.

[C]

That's what I just said.

[D]

In December of 2025. And I think they got. I could tell you, but it was no more than 18 months. Somewhere between 16 and 18 months.

[E]

So the lady's name you can get

[C]

that kind that get too.

[E]

The lady's name is Jasine Sanga.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Quote unquote. The Ketamine Queen.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Hell of a title.

[A]

She gotta go. You got nickname. Yeah, her up.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Salvador Placencia is the physician who gave him ketamine. He actually got 30. Excuse me. It was 30 months in prison.

[B]

See, I would, I would feel I would go against ish if it was like tainted ketamine, if it was fentanyl or something in there. But if it's what he ordered and he took too much of it, he

[A]

should have read 15.

[B]

Sounds very excessive.

[A]

You should have read the instructions, show up to the party. But ordered from who? If you're ordering from the street dealer and you overtake dose, they coming to get the street dealer.

[D]

Oh, they coming to get. Yeah. It just shouldn't be illegal is the problem.

[B]

If you poison the drugs, I think you should get 15.

[E]

Cuz now they. Cuz now you're lying, you're killing. Like if I sell you.45 and a Colt.45 got some fent in it. You don't know you taking fent?

[B]

I think I'm. I'm freestyling. But I'm pretty sure Mac Rest in Peace was either coke or pills that had fentanyl.

[A]

They them up.

[B]

Yeah, that's extremely up.

[D]

And that was Michael K. Williams also.

[C]

But you know, I remember at first it was this thing where people would be selling drugs and it would be fake drugs and they would cut it with fentanyl.

[D]

Right.

[C]

But then it became a thing where they want. People are selling drugs and it's fentanyl and they know it's whether it's in. It's. It's like a. A fake Xanax or a fake Percocet. They still know that it's fentanyl because they is half the price. And this person never runs out. Right. So it's like that changed like in the beginning, people overdose in that way. And people's family members will be look, oh, we going to them up who sold them this. Now people kind of know that these are addicted to the. They wanted stepped on. Yeah, it's not stepped. Not even. It's.

[E]

It's people.

[C]

It's a Market for that where there are pills where the certain drugs. The ingredient is fentanyl, and you want it and that.

[D]

And the people.

[F]

And the people are aware of. I thought it was the younger people.

[C]

It's almost like it ain't an age thing. It's almost like you would have a pill block that people get from Rite Aid, but then it's a pill block of all fentanyl, and people go to that pill because that's cheaper in the writing.

[B]

Also. Sometimes I think that's true. I think some issues.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

But I also do think sometimes it's just like, oh, this guy's got good perks.

[D]

That's what I.

[B]

Not knowing that it's Fen. I just know he's got some fire.

[F]

And I want more.

[B]

Like, they might not be asking. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Saying, yeah.

[F]

Be lacing with fentanyl.

[E]

No, what I'm telling.

[F]

Everybody's not aware that this.

[C]

But this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying.

[F]

I heard what you said.

[C]

There was a time where it was a lace thing. I just think that nowadays it's more

[D]

people know what the Is going on.

[C]

They're buying it, it's cheaper. They want it. It's not a trick. Oh, I don't know.

[E]

I don't think Shorty shouldn't go to jail. Like, be clear. I'm not saying that I don't think she should go to jail. I'm saying that 15 years.

[A]

How you kill a. From friends.

[C]

Like, Matt was a monster. I read that, man.

[E]

But he was a. I don't want to be. I don't want to be.

[A]

Wait. Matthew Perry was a monster?

[C]

Matthew Perry was a drug addict, which ca. And drug addiction causes you to be a monster sometimes. Matthew Perry discovered drugs early on in his career, and it got worse and worse and worse. So I see. Which. When he was on Friends, when Friends were at the height he was up, you can see.

[D]

Look how skinny he was.

[C]

Most of the people that worked there and that ran knew it. But that show was that big that you could not take him off. You cannot replace.

[D]

Okay?

[A]

For me, if you call somebody a monster, I need more. Was he just doing cocaine?

[C]

No, it wasn't no cocaine. He was like a opiate person. Like a pill person. Do a lot alcoholism or was he doing terrible things?

[A]

Have there been any reports of sexual assault?

[C]

I'm sorry. When I should have said a drug, But things that come with drugs addiction. You cheat on your girl, whatever. You. You having fun. You partying regular you know, not like a. Let me take that back.

[B]

Fiend and a monster.

[E]

Not equivalent.

[A]

He was home chilling in the hot tent. Don't.

[B]

Trying to get high.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

I'm not calling him a monster.

[A]

Yeah, I've heard the worst ways to get high. Word.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So what do you think that the time should be, like?

[E]

I think it depends on what you're talking about, actually. I think you should be charged like a drug dealer. Like, I think it should be uniformity across the board. Like, I don't think that you should get more time based on what person used your drugs and their level of success.

[B]

I think drugs should be legal.

[D]

I think they should be legal. I don't think nobody should get time for that.

[C]

Like, why are people. I'm providing you a service. Service. You want this? You don't want to go to the ghetto. You want walking around all these people. I'm coming to the crib real quick, you know what I mean? Sometimes we smoke a bunch together. I sell you a little drugs. I know the kids. It's simple. I know your mom.

[A]

What.

[C]

Parks did you just say get some?

[A]

I might have. I might have. Nice.

[C]

I'm delivering this man powder and sucking his dick.

[F]

No.

[C]

Damn.

[F]

Some of the dealers get.

[C]

Bro, I never heard no drug dealer gonna go sell a dick suck at the same time. Y', all.

[F]

Where the you at?

[C]

If anybody else was saying it, if Ish was selling his back in the day drug so y' all would say, oh, did you. Did you suck a titties too?

[B]

So you're not big on customer service.

[F]

This was dropping off his clothes and. And knocking it off. How much you want that nigga want a Google review?

[C]

There's no woman drug dealer that's giving up pussy. Just in case you're just gonna sell pussy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

His name in the streets.

[F]

His name is Muddy boy.

[A]

Yo, you heard about the landlord that give head? You heard about the nigga?

[E]

Haven't heard. They ain't heard of peep.

[A]

You crazy as hell now.

[E]

They found mad shit in the shorty crib. They said they found thousands of pills that included meth, cocaine and zannies.

[C]

She's a drug dealer for sure.

[D]

Drug dealer. Look, if people wanna get high, let them get high. I don't support, you know, criminalizing that stuff, and I don't support. I think we actually create a market that makes more violence and more danger.

[C]

We know the way we handle drugs in this country and what it does and how it does. So it's like, at this point, we know that People that are addicts should get treatment. Now, we still don't know that people that sell drugs need treatment too. You know what I mean? That part is still fucked up. But it's like things that we've done in the past do not work. That's a fact. Niggas used to go to jail. Niggas used to come have a baby. Middle of the crack epidemic, everybody on crack. You go to the hospital, had a baby, they'll lock you up. Take the baby, crackers. It just make no sense. Then they have all this. The crack baby, the crack baby. All these studies. These babies didn't have an issue.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Just locking them up for nothing. Destroying the family for nothing. Crazy. It doesn't work.

[B]

Recipes.

[E]

Matthew, you saying throw the key away?

[A]

No, not throw the key away. Y' all might have twisted me a little again, huh? Okay, cuz, I need. I need. I need to hear more.

[B]

I think drugs should be legal and. And regulated. So you're getting what you want to get. And maybe you can't buy as much heroin as you will kill you.

[A]

They have some stuff like. Like these shops were set up where

[E]

you can, like, shoot up your heroin

[F]

now in, like, New York City.

[E]

Hamsters.

[D]

I love those.

[C]

In Amsterdam forever.

[F]

Not like in New York.

[D]

You're talking about SIFs, is that what I'm saying? Safe injection facilities.

[A]

That's crazy to me.

[D]

Well, it is until you think about it a little differently, right? People who. If you don't have a safe injection facility, then people are under bridges doing it. They're sharing work, they're sharing around. Without those facilities, it doesn't. Getting rid of facilities doesn't stop people from getting high. It just makes people get high, unsafe. It's like when people say, if you give out condoms in school, kids are gonna be fucking. Kids are always fucking.

[B]

It makes people push, like, get high in a park where kids are gonna be the next day.

[C]

On top of the fact bdot, it works in other countries, so we've seen other countries. Them people have safe places to shoot, and that's where they go.

[A]

But that's gonna kill you.

[E]

Like, did you see the commercial?

[D]

I've never seen a heroin addict not take heroin because they don't have a. Here's the other thing. When you have a safe injection facility, you can also have social workers there, health workers. Workers. If you know where the drug addicts are going to be, you can actually treat them and get them off of drugs. When they're shooting heroin in the ass behind a Dumpster. You can't. You can't do nothing with that.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I forgot how it feels to have Ishmark and Mona together on, like, drug topics.

[F]

Everybody go to the north Conversation station. They would knock in the trees. Yeah. You know, these three boys, they body this.

[A]

Oh, my God. Stupid Y.

[F]

Especially bag you.

[C]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[A]

Figure it out. We happy.

[F]

We happy you here, though.

[A]

You figuring it out.

[D]

You look.

[C]

I'm telling you, you're damned if you do. You're damned.

[B]

You got to the people with.

[C]

And I never sucked a dick after I broke somebody some goddamn damn coke

[B]

with drug and substance abuse issues. Shout out to people that are in prison for way longer than they should be.

[F]

So free her in advance.

[A]

I'm talking.

[D]

No, please, free her in advance.

[A]

Free her.

[B]

I don't know about free her, but, yeah, freer.

[A]

Actually.

[D]

I say free them all.

[C]

People in jail for selling weed.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Get killed.

[C]

20 years.

[E]

Not free them.

[A]

Joe.

[D]

I definitely don't want him to get killed.

[A]

This lady. Hell, no. I'm saving my freeze for somebody that I care about.

[C]

He's saving his freeze. Like it's a limited amount. Unlimited freeze.

[A]

No, I don't have unlimited freeze. I don't want unlimited free.

[B]

Just free the sacklers.

[A]

Yeah. Start the kid movement.

[C]

Free the jails. Except mystical.

[A]

Keep mystical.

[D]

Ain't a bad rule, yo.

[A]

Mystical.

[C]

Yeah. Freaky ass mystical.

[D]

Dangerous.

[B]

No, keep them. Keep this.

[A]

The tree.

[C]

All the sex guys locked up, there's nothing we could do with them.

[A]

Keep mystical, those guys.

[B]

Yeah, keep the tr.

[F]

You want pooh shy to stay in jail?

[A]

I don't want him out.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

At least not New Jersey.

[D]

I want him in P. Diary.

[A]

New England Dangerous.

[D]

That's too close.

[A]

New rochette. Right.

[D]

New deli.

[A]

Anyway, I ain't going to hold it. New england. New guinea. Come on. Now's a good time to get to some of the sexy, freaky topics that we got.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

I know it feels like we did that with the puff shit, but about to say.

[D]

In fact, that's what we doing this whole episode.

[A]

We can go to Diana Rossini or. Or we can go to Fun or Sash. Nick Glazer. Oh, Nikki Glaser.

[B]

Oh, I thought we were talking about Big Rip. Cause that's also.

[E]

No,

[F]

actually.

[A]

Yeah. Come on, Mark.

[D]

What?

[A]

The suspense is killing me. Go ahead, do it.

[D]

There's no suspense. All right, so we got a couple rips that we want to do.

[A]

You know the one we're waiting on?

[D]

Yeah. First I'm going to give one to Blondie, a hip hop legend from the group Sequence. Of course, we shouted out and did a rip to Angie Stone, her bandmate and co founder. It's been almost a year now that Angie Stone passed.

[A]

Damn. Already time's still flying.

[D]

I might be wrong about the date, but it's just there probably has been about 8 almost. But, you know, Blondie was the other. Well, they make up to two thirds of the group. These are hip hop pioneers, hip hop legends. And again, we often don't write Sequence in particular in the hip hop history, but often early women pioneers in the hip hop history. So I just want to shout out Blondie, who passed away this week.

[B]

Rest in peace.

[D]

Rest in peace. To her, the big story that everybody's been talking about for the last 24 hours has been the death of Africa Bambaata. Indeed. And this may be.

[B]

It's a complicated one.

[D]

The toughest eulogy that I've ever had to do up here.

[C]

Why?

[D]

You know the word eulogy, etymologically, the

[B]

first word, eu, pass into your fucking etymological bag.

[D]

Think about it, right? I mean, that logos is words, but that U means good. Eulogy is good words. And it's hard to. Nigga, who knew that, Mark?

[A]

I had no idea. It's in books. Fuck you, Mark.

[D]

All kinds of shit in the books, man.

[A]

But.

[D]

And it's hard to give a eulogy for Afrika Bamba. I mean, anybody who knows hip hop knows that Afrika Bambaata is one of the pioneers. You can't talk about hip hop without talking about Africa Bamba. In 1982, Planet Rock becomes not just a soundtrack to the streets and one of the most important hip hop songs ever made. Some of y' all know it from the City Girls remake, but. But he really put hip hop on a map in a different kind of. And even before that, in the late 70s, early 80s, as a DJ, you know, when hip hop was still a local event, when hip hop was still a live event, when the DJ was the centerpiece, in some ways more than the mc, he was there as well. You can't talk hip hop without talking Africa Bamba. And you can't talk about hip hop culture without talking about the universal Zulu nation. Indeed, by the time you get to the late 80s, early 90s, with, like, the cultural nationalism of hip hop, when everybody's wearing braids and sarongs and colors and you got all these groups out there, they owe a debt.

[B]

Yeah, that's where it comes from.

[D]

Yeah, they owe a debt to the universal Zulu nation. And that often doesn't get written into the history of hip hop. You know, by the time we get to native tongues, we've already. We're already almost a generation past what universal Zulu nation did. So Afrika Bambaata was the leader of all of that. And so under a normal situation, we would have started with some bam music. We would have started with, you know, Planet rock. Planet rock. And we wouldn't be shouting him out and we'd be pouring out liquor for Africa Bambaata. But it's impossible for me, for me, too, for all of us, right, with any kind of principle or care to talk about Africa Bambaata the way we talk about other people in a eulogy. Because for all the contributions he's made to hip hop, he's also done tremendous harm. You know, one of the most vocal voices that we've seen in her is Hasan Campbell, who's come forward to talk about the sexual violence that was perpetrated by Africa Bambaata against him. He's talked about that. That's his story.

[A]

The second worst thing Afrika Bambaata did bring us this nigga to never stop talking. Oh, my God, these niggas are fucking.

[D]

Oh, but I mean, he's a lot. But that's what untreated trauma looks like sometimes. Last year, Africa Bambamba lost a civil case by an anonymous accuser for sexual abuse and, I believe, trafficking as well. But over the course of decades, we've heard the stories firsthand. Accounts not just people who heard something, who heard something, who heard something, but people who come forward and say, africa Bambada, when I was a child, harmed me, he abused me, he did all kinds of things to me. And unfortunately, too much of hip hop culture has been lionizing him and ignoring the harm, even when it's come forward. And some of the biggest names in hip hop history, some of the biggest pioneers in hip hop history, have whitewashed that, ignored it or even said it's not important or it's less important than what bam contributed to. To the culture. And I think that that's a sickness that's not about hip hop. That's just a social, collective, societal, cultural sickness. We all ignore the screams of children too often. And so I don't have a rest in peace for Africa Bambaata, but I do have words of healing and condolences and love and care for all the people that he harmed. We'll never forget or write him out of hip hop history, but we always have to have that asterisk next to it because those children matter far more than any musical contribution.

[B]

Very well said.

[C]

Thank you, Mark.

[A]

Very well.

[B]

Well, sir.

[A]

You smoked that, Mark.

[B]

Yeah. You did.

[F]

Smoked, yeah. Good job.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

I thought we had him.

[F]

I thought we almost had.

[A]

I thought this one. I did. I thought this one would be a little tricky.

[B]

He smoked the out of that.

[A]

He did it. He did it.

[B]

He smoked the out of.

[C]

Type Philly do under pressure.

[A]

Just more. Just more.

[C]

Oh well, it's enough.

[A]

And I mean just want to make one minor correction. Can definitely write him out of the hip hop story you tell. Yeah. Don't have to include this one bit

[D]

in a way we have to, but we got to tell the truth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We could keep the song and something. I don't know. It's always tricky with these.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't lose any sleep last night.

[C]

When did they start? When he first started getting started getting accused. Cuz I didn't hear nothing. I didn't know.

[D]

So it's interesting. So I have a. So he.

[F]

He a guy named.

[B]

I worked with people from the Bronx for a very long time that were kind of aware or heard rumblings or heard stories like you said, third, fourth, fifth party or whatever. It's kind of been known for a while on some level.

[A]

Known secret.

[F]

They called him the boogeyman out there.

[D]

They called him a boogeyman.

[F]

He had a lot of tough niggas around him. He was just doing a lot of nasty shit, you know what I'm saying? At first I heard it was from a guy named Bee Stinger. Yeah. And he talked about it. And then I heard Hassan Campbell. What you saying?

[D]

The first sign I had was when he was best friends with the leader of. With Dr. York.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh shit.

[D]

Yeah. He was full circle when I was in. I remember being a kid seeing him, a teenager and Bam. Came up to the land a couple times in Georgia and over the last time I saw him because I didn't really know Bam. I never really. I've interacted with him and before I knew the monster stories, I saw him at the National Hip Hop. Was it hip hop political? It was somewhere and he had on the paraphernalia of the cult. And we talked about for a few minutes, maybe like a year or two later, I heard everything. But then I started putting two and two together because Dr. York didn't have really friends. He didn't really kick it with a lot of people, but he kicked it with. I'm not and I don't know what to make of that in terms of their specific story. But it's a hell of a coincidence that they would be together, kick it together and any stories come out.

[B]

I recorded BAM in maybe 09, and I did not know about any of this shit.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So. So sometime after that I would say for sure.

[C]

Especially after. Will you say with the Dr. York. Because at that point in Dr. York's life, and please correct me if I'm wrong, he has the most control because he has his own land like it's his own.

[D]

He moved to Eatonton, Georgia.

[C]

Do what the you want to do there. So it's like y' all gonna be friends anywhere as friends where he's.

[D]

Bamba's come to that land.

[C]

Yep, I bet. Freaky ass.

[B]

That's crazy.

[C]

Yeah, it is some crazy wild word. That's sick, though. That's crazy.

[D]

There's no real transition.

[A]

No.

[F]

That's a tough one.

[B]

That's a tough one.

[A]

All right, well, we're staying with all things kinky. Okay. Diana Rossini was seen at an. And Diana Rossini is the head NFL analyst for the Athletic. Used to work for espn. She was seen at an Arizona resort, Sedona.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Hugged up with Mike Vrabel, the head coach for the New England Patriots. And it was a big story released by the Times, including pictures and. Yeah, that's it. That's the story. Are they both single? They're both married. Oh, yeah. Mike Vrabel has been married since 99. Diana Rossini. Diana Rossini has been married since 2020. And this is the second time that Diana Rossini's name has been on the fire. In 2015, somebody that worked for the Redskins, the Commanders. But the Redskins, then their wife accused Diana Rossini of inappropriate behavior with the husband and yada, yada, yada. She later apologized and not Diana, the wife later apologized and said she shouldn't have come forward and yada, yada, yada. But this is the second time now, why this story is absolutely hilarious is every single clip that you find of Diana Rossini talking about her husband. Sounds like a complete shit show and a mess. If you haven't heard them, I have them for you. Of course you do like to hear it. Here we go. Please.

[D]

Come on.

[G]

I'm not going to eat. My family's going to hate me for 12 days. I'm not going to sleep, I'm not going to eat. My family's going to hate me. My husband's going to threaten divorce. But we've signed up for this. This. I didn't Sign up. I was not ready. And we're getting divorced at the end of the year.

[A]

Right? Stop.

[E]

Breaking news.

[A]

She be doing this on sports shows.

[D]

Sorry, Kev.

[F]

Diana with the.

[E]

The.

[B]

The Eagles.

[G]

He doesn't even know who I am right now. He's okay. Oh, yes. He. We've talked about. We've never been more disconnected in our lives. Our text messages look like two robots. Hello. Hello.

[A]

Just going through the motions. Is he getting.

[G]

Yes.

[B]

Is he getting insider in the.

[A]

In the divorce. Love you. Any of that.

[B]

Love you. Love you to.

[G]

No. Not even an emoji. I get a picture of Mikey and Joey looking adorable and perfectly dressed because Kevin's so good at that.

[A]

Right.

[G]

And I'll write back, miss you guys.

[C]

You too.

[G]

He texted the next day.

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

Going to work. Like, what, 15 hours just passed, Right? I have a lot of work to do, guys.

[C]

When I get home, a lot of work to do.

[G]

Yeah. My marriage. I'm going to be a full insider on my marriage the second I landed.

[A]

All right. Wow.

[B]

That's.

[G]

You know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart? My mom.

[C]

So that's good.

[B]

Oh, does she?

[A]

What did she say

[F]

to you?

[G]

This is real.

[A]

Different show, different day. Yeah. Yes, yes, please do it.

[G]

See, I don't know. Hey. Thank you so much. Kept told me that you stopped by. Oh, yeah, yeah. He looks good. He looks really good.

[C]

I go, yeah.

[G]

I. I was like, he doesn't seem as stressed this year.

[A]

Year.

[G]

She's like, you know what? I'm starting to think he's got a girlfriend. And you know what?

[C]

Good for him.

[G]

He looks good. He's successful, his wife's never around. You love this football thing.

[A]

That sounds like such a mom.

[E]

New York mom, too.

[G]

I went right back out. I go, why would you say that to me right now while I'm on a trip, right. That my husband has a girlfriend.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

And, ah, just keep an eye on your toes, you know?

[A]

You know, I don't need to be

[G]

kicked on my toes. I need help.

[B]

She likes you to be in the most vulnerable spot.

[G]

I'm so messed up.

[B]

Across the country.

[G]

As far as you can be from New Jersey right now.

[A]

Right?

[G]

There's nothing I can do.

[A]

Yes.

[G]

And yet she's out here throwing things in my head. Now I'm wondering. I'm like, that one girl in his office is really pretty.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Shoot.

[A]

You're starting to think poo, right?

[D]

Again.

[A]

This is a sports show. I was about to ask naked of you. Any point you want to talk about the score?

[G]

No, I Did things in Miami. I haven't even told my husband because it's just I had that much fun. Well, not like that. I knew he would, he would judge the kind of partying I was doing. I don't know what got into me. I just remember being down there acting like it was my last day on earth.

[A]

Strong as me. No, I do think, damn, I need a best friend.

[B]

Anybody in broadcast makes joke on their wives or husbands and you could make a super cut of literally any of us up here saying a bunch of jokes that in hindsight would look absolutely crazy. I think the big story here is that everyone assumes that any mildly attractive woman in sports broadcasting in particular is there because she's. That is the assumption by a lot of people.

[A]

Wait. Huh? How do we get to that being the big star story? People assuming that the sports ladies.

[B]

That is what people think.

[C]

Yeah. What he's saying.

[A]

But now we talking about somebody that's.

[C]

But what he's saying is that, that people joking around and playing around. It's gonna always look bad in the montage. On top of the fact that people already assuming you're a hoe just because you in this male dominated field. Just like when that girl all you

[A]

have to go off is a montage. But when it's combined with action. Like nobody pulled any of this up before we knew that she was Mike V.

[B]

For us to talk through the situation. Diana, what's up?

[A]

More clips for guys. I told your producer that I want

[C]

to be introduced now.

[A]

I don't want to be insider. I don't want to be Scoop City podcast host.

[G]

I just want to be milf.

[C]

Just straight up mil.

[B]

That's what I'm going for.

[A]

Crazy. Damn.

[B]

That that's all funny to me. I think that's his funny banter.

[E]

No, I think, I think that not

[F]

with the action that's going behind it now.

[B]

The actions.

[E]

But I, I, I can compartmentalize what she's doing as a profession with her actions off camera and off mic. I don't think I mean well now they correlated. But I think that her being one of the boys all of like the, the female cops. I know they talk like dudes bartenders like that you around men all day. So blow it out your asshole, Johnny. Suck my dick. Like women will say all of those things because they wanted a boy. So I look at that. Is that her doing whatever she was doing again outside is something totally different.

[A]

It sound like she was vetting.

[D]

Yeah, I agree. Montages can look like montages. I mean it can look like more than a montage. It did seem like she had a. It was. Maybe it's her bit to just always talk about her marriage. It would just seem like a lot of. A lot of them is the narrative here. Cause I don't know the story. I know I saw the photos of them on the rooftop. I know all that is the assumption that she's cheating.

[E]

No, that's not.

[D]

Or that she's secret or that she.

[A]

No, I mean, yeah, the assumption is that they both cheated.

[D]

Because my assumption when I see people that brazen is that they're separated. That they're separated and this is. They're kind of coming out. That's actually what I assume. Because when. I mean the rooftop they were on, I think it's 2120. Almost $2200 a night. It's a very private place.

[A]

I was about to say this is a private high end resort in Arizona, Sedona overlooking the mountain and Sedona one

[E]

of the wellness fly shits. And I think that. You don't think that anybody has a camera that's looking at you when I'm in this dope ass hot tub or.

[A]

Well, somebody had a PI on them.

[E]

Oh, oh, see, that's.

[C]

Say that part, Joe.

[E]

Somebody had a pie.

[A]

Thank you. Listen, ain't nobody up there. That's where you go to do that. Nobody up there got their phone out.

[D]

Let me offer a different take because I think that could be it. I think the other possibility. Deal said they called it on themselves. They called the paparazzi on themselves. They did it on themselves because she wants to come out with this relationship that they're both separated and this is their coming out party.

[A]

Well, I'm not rolling with that. Only because whoever had these pictures tried to sell them to TMZ to come out.

[D]

Say less.

[A]

And I'm told that before this there were other pictures that they had that come from like really, really, really, really far.

[D]

Got you.

[A]

Got you like not the iPhone. Close up pictures.

[D]

Right.

[A]

These are pros.

[F]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. So I'm with your first one. Maybe somebody separated.

[D]

And I still think they're separated.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And we don't know. Cause you put a PI on your partner, something's going on.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

When you start going. When you're famous and you start going on vacation with somebody who's not your partner, that's a lot.

[A]

Yeah, you're pretty much more clips. Diana Rossini said this.

[G]

And I think we all do weird things, things when we're in love and we overshare. And over post. And look, he's married. He's getting married to a beautiful actress. I'm married to someone average. I don't post a lot of that. I don't. You know who lets me know my marriage is falling apart.

[A]

My mom did that one she called average.

[E]

She issued a statement though.

[A]

She did, yeah, she issued a statement.

[F]

Read it.

[E]

So that kind of goes against the whoever statement in it says that I did something this past weekend that I'm deeply ashamed of.

[A]

I think that's AI. Oh, I think that's from a parody account.

[E]

It don't sound.

[D]

Keep reading it.

[F]

They got him again.

[E]

Maybe.

[D]

What does it say?

[A]

You know, my boy.

[F]

They got my boy.

[A]

Diana Routini. So old saying.

[D]

How.

[E]

How would you know if it.

[A]

Cuz I saw all of them too. I saw they say Mike Vrabel but I went to the account that posted it and it says parody up top. I don't know if that's where yours is from.

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

I got it from. Yeah, I don't see any credible.

[E]

Credible source.

[D]

Any credible source saying that there's a statement. I see that I did something I'm ashamed of. But I think that that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

[E]

gotcha.

[D]

Yeah. When you read it. You read what she said? Yeah, she's joking.

[E]

You're going out to be how many.

[A]

How many of the sports reported chicks you think is. Is. Is damn parts?

[B]

Yeah, I think that's what he was asking. Let's get the brass t. I think a lot.

[A]

Think a lot.

[E]

I think.

[D]

Wait, what do you mean by you.

[E]

I think.

[A]

What do you mean? What do we mean?

[D]

No, you mean to get there or their co.

[A]

I'm saying I'm not. I'm just saying I'm not putting in everybody's.

[D]

That's what mean.

[A]

I'm not mad at. No, I mean. You know what I mean.

[D]

I don't in the work workplace. Ah, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Why would you not crazy.

[A]

Why would you not in the workplace?

[E]

Most cops, most nurses, most doctors.

[A]

Well, the workplace is a conflict. Yeah.

[E]

You're around a whole bunch of people, it's going to be a whole bunch of different males that might. You might find attractive. A lot of them are relatively successful. Why would you not one of them if you single.

[A]

But this clause is behind that too nowadays, right?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And it happens.

[E]

You get what I'm saying?

[A]

This is my thing about Parks and Marks and I enjoy a good bit too. I have running bits about my fucking partner, so I totally understand that part. But you also know when you could pop one of these bitches. Like, you also know when they come around talking a certain way talking a certain way about they mad repeatedly around a room full of guys. At some point somebody's gonna say, you know what? I can pop this off. Of course, Jalen Rose and Molly did it pretty smooth. I think it didn't get really messy on air. So this it? No, no.

[E]

But I think that might salute to them.

[A]

Stephen a spoke to Jaylen Rose in about five years. Hey, have we even seen them two together? Jalen, Steve.

[F]

Now I.

[D]

With Jaylon's no longer espn. That's why it's only purely. That's the only reason. It has nothing to do with anything personal.

[A]

See, hey, when a plan don't work.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Now I think both of them might just be standing up and they ain't wanted to. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. Mark, do you think Molly was dead before he leave?

[D]

Ab. Absolutely not. And I'm getting up just because I'm. I'm coughing not. I don't. The timing looks suspicious now because of how Joe just did that. No, I have no reason to believe Molly was. I think she was the most professional. Followed every rule as far as I know. Everything I said, only thing I've ever heard. And same thing for Jalen and Steven.

[E]

Yeah, see, that's the point.

[A]

I agree.

[E]

That's the piece I don't like. I just think that yo. Human. Human beings are human beings.

[A]

Yo.

[E]

You might find somebody attractive. They don't necessarily got to be an incentive behind it. I think that's where the insulting part comes in. She just might like for like again, nurses, teachers be police chicks. They. If you in a room about men all day, then one of them might

[B]

you.

[C]

That's.

[B]

Let's hear.

[D]

What.

[E]

Which piece.

[C]

It's just bullshit. Just. It goes exact thing you said from the beginning that people just assume when you're a woman in that kind of industry.

[B]

Attractive woman.

[C]

Specifically attractive woman. For sure. They just assume that you. It's. It's. It's. What is it? What is that, Mark? Patriarchy. Yes, that's what that is. Yeah. It's. And it doesn't happen the other way ever.

[E]

A man that is attractive works around women all day long. One or multiple women are getting popped.

[A]

Are you opposed to like in the workplace? Like, how do you. What are your views on that?

[E]

You talking to me?

[A]

Yeah. You talking to Mr. And don't lick your lips.

[E]

No, I'm. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not opposed to that.

[F]

We know.

[E]

If you got two concerns.

[D]

I've never.

[E]

Yes, I am.

[B]

Yes, I am.

[D]

I'm saying Subways.

[E]

I'm fresh.

[D]

Oh, yeah. All kinds of meetups.

[A]

You were definitely the chicks when you worked at Subway Corporate.

[E]

Nah, it was. It was like seven, eight people in the office.

[D]

Yeah, but you'll go down to the local.

[F]

You go down and visit the stores. You visit the stores.

[D]

You go down to them stores. Yeah. You be at the Subway Dykeman.

[F]

Hey, look at this.

[A]

Subway's doing the census test. Just making sure everything is up to code.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Making sure.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

The tomatoes.

[D]

Who needs a foot long?

[A]

I'll call someone. I can't.

[F]

I can't handle that. Oh, you like that? Let me call my man.

[A]

You Never at Century 21?

[E]

I never worked at Century 21.

[F]

Macy's.

[A]

Oh, I thought you worked across the

[B]

street from century 21.

[A]

I got it.

[F]

What about Macy's?

[E]

I never worked at Macy's.

[A]

He just gave you random jobs.

[D]

He worked at a lot of jobs.

[A]

Wait, you still was fucking chicks at Macy's, right?

[D]

He was.

[A]

Don't lie.

[D]

While he was boosting.

[E]

Nah, I'm not. I'm not against sex in the workplace. I think you play the game. You know what you could potentially be getting yourself into? I think we are adults, B.

[B]

Depends on the job, in my opinion.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I think it's a powerful position.

[E]

Then you know what you're getting yourself into and you playing a game. I think that if. Yo, you are an adult woman, you are an adult man and y' all hit it off at work. That's a possibility, bro. You're around somebody eight to ten hours a day.

[A]

But that shouldn't be a possibility when you're married. So do married people say, ideally speaking?

[E]

That's ideally speaking because you could be in a workplace with somebody and it ain't start off like that. You just kicking it. Y' all just laughing, joking, and their personality could be something that you find

[B]

attractive on impossible women.

[C]

Next you know, you slip on a banana pill and.

[E]

Right on the N. Everybody.

[A]

Y.

[E]

Anybody go out for happy hour? You go out for happy hour. Y' all laughing, y' all joking.

[A]

Christmas party, little dance, little dance.

[E]

Lead getting hard on your butt.

[A]

Work trip, Christmas party. Terry Crews over there by the punch bowl, yo. Gotta walk over there, see what's up. Have y' all ever.

[C]

Have y' all ever had, like, gotten involved with somebody at the job?

[B]

Yeah, but I was at a restaurant, so that's just normal.

[C]

Everybody at the restaurant. I Was the guy at the gas station. I was really.

[A]

Excuse me.

[C]

I was like. I was young, though.

[E]

Yo, what you did at the gas station?

[C]

I was fresh out of jail. He made me get a job.

[D]

My.

[A]

I love you today.

[C]

I was fresh out of jail. They made me get a job.

[A]

What was your job there?

[D]

I kept cashier.

[C]

Knew I was a cashier. I'm not from Jersey. We don't pump no gas, boy.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

We want a hot dog. That's simple.

[A]

The best I did was I D. Please.

[C]

20, 21. 20, 21. 50 cent straight, 50 cent box. $3 on Powerball. That was the most intricate part of the job.

[B]

Yeah. Lottery.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But I had it for parole. And that made the job so much funner.

[A]

Getting back there was the Powerball girl at the gas station. We gonna get some tickets.

[C]

Yeah, Y' all never nobody job.

[B]

Yeah. The restaurant for sure.

[C]

The sex is better. You the only one that say something. Everybody else was that black guy.

[D]

I've done it. I never did.

[A]

Was it a black guy? I didn't have a lot of job.

[C]

I've never touched nothing that wasn't a black.

[A]

Okay. Cuz. You know, the gas stations is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Different. It's what.

[D]

It's what?

[E]

It's multicultural.

[A]

Way to go, Yo. You just was doing so great. Don't worry about it. Now you getting it started. Look. Look at your man now.

[D]

Yo, you stop me.

[A]

You guys, this is racist.

[D]

You stop me.

[F]

It's.

[A]

It was right there.

[C]

It's also funny.

[A]

It was right there. It's cool. All right. So none of y' all care that Diana Rouini is a hoe?

[C]

No, we don't.

[A]

She might not you, Diana.

[D]

She might not be a hoe. That's what I'm saying. I think she could be separated it and just moved on to somebody else.

[B]

Or they could have just been enjoying some solid private.

[E]

Or they could be fucking my. Like, what are we talking?

[D]

They definitely fucking. I'm just saying. She might not be cheating.

[A]

I'm next. I'm not definitely fucking, but I'm not calling her that based off her having a husband and Mike Vrabel.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I'm basing it off her having a husband, Mike Vrabel, and comfortably walking in rooms of five and more talking that talk. Talk. You're trying to get piped. You are trying to get piped. I hate when this room act like we can't tell the older white ladies who come in.

[E]

I didn't. I didn't refute when you said, yo, when Jay walk In the room talking like that. The dudes look around.

[F]

It's a layer she's trying to get letting know guests that came up here

[E]

and when they leave we be looking at each other like yeah, she's a layup.

[D]

That's only you I've never.

[A]

That's a Lia. She never said that's why up. That's why don't p. That's why don't pie.

[F]

That's why don't do that.

[D]

It's up to you. You like this I just got here. Sweet Georgia Brown start playing.

[E]

Yeah, I know we don't do that boy. I know.

[A]

See I got to think how many guests I could have.

[E]

You can't do this to me cuz I know you.

[A]

Well I didn't do nothing I said

[E]

what I'm saying is and I know how your brain works so when somebody leave out of here, you'll look at me like and it could be an

[A]

unsaid thing who that was for like that Alexis, Texas. We did that. We did that. Hey, it's coming back to me now. You don't want to both us right?

[F]

You see what he doing? He's saying that he was would he try to do the okie doke now? You said I wouldn't Alexa, Texas you would?

[A]

Yes, it's a pro Monday night raw. Is you talking about during the wrestling

[F]

match you hitting it wrong?

[A]

Is you talking about I hit everything wrong. What

[C]

Jack Rabbit Texas wrong.

[A]

What the is happening?

[D]

Respect.

[C]

He say he is get everything wrong

[D]

Boy, up until now me and it's the only people here who probably use condoms.

[A]

Oh my goodness.

[F]

When we were single it's was the only. He's a. You know Mark said are you too Mark?

[A]

But also they've had. They've had a lot more sex than me too.

[D]

You running down nobody believe that.

[C]

What's the point?

[A]

Don't change the truth.

[C]

You can't feel anything. We're adults.

[A]

What a condom.

[D]

What you just refuse the condoms too? Yeah, the first was reading books.

[F]

That was condom N N to my block. Don't no, I'm not judging for using condom. No, I'm saying that he's lying. And I'm saying you lying.

[D]

I don't. I don't now cuz I'm married in

[E]

monogamy when I was single I use condoms. I use condoms, bro.

[C]

Lame split.

[D]

I mean I got kids. Obviously you go use it now after

[E]

but flip, I was 40 with no kids.

[A]

You're living life on the edge. Everything wrong Little Busta rhymes to make everything smooth.

[C]

All this whole. And y' all doing that with a condom on. Like, shut up. Look at this. That gets.

[A]

See, yo, it's like.

[D]

It's like what we just talked about. Look at this.

[A]

That get ridiculed in our community. Condoms.

[C]

Come on. Waste of time.

[A]

What the new condoms do?

[C]

I wouldn't know.

[D]

I'm married.

[E]

I haven't used a condom in.

[D]

Yeah, I've used a condom in.

[E]

Joe said no. They've teased me for decades for using condoms.

[C]

It's lame. Especially if you talk about doing all that. It's like, come on.

[A]

Okay, but he don't drink.

[B]

Last condom I used was one of them free New York City condoms.

[C]

Probably.

[A]

Oh, what?

[C]

Yeah, that.

[F]

The train station, the ship. Oh, Pastoria.

[E]

Yo, that was fitting.

[F]

See, that's how you show off. Look

[E]

crazy.

[C]

Why you be dog whisting somebody can't fit regular condom.

[F]

It's your third time dog whistling about your penis size, bro.

[C]

He can't fit regular condom.

[F]

Last time you said I had my big dick in the corner.

[E]

I never said any of that.

[F]

Yo, Joe, didn't he say that when he.

[E]

I said somebody was curled up like a baby with a big dick? That's not.

[D]

You said you.

[E]

About me.

[C]

You also did say that you had a shrimp all through high school and that tripled in size.

[E]

I didn't say that either.

[C]

He said he got a big.

[B]

You don't remember his old.

[E]

That tripled it.

[D]

You didn't got to say that. You said you had a gross spurt.

[B]

Your dick grew, went to a prawn.

[C]

I said triple. Exactly.

[D]

You say triple. No, you didn't say triple.

[C]

That went to a lot.

[D]

But you just dick gross. Hold on.

[F]

What you said, Mona, that was wild.

[C]

It wasn't a serious thing. He is. That's what he said. It said that his penis and his height grew in the early 20s.

[F]

In his early 20s, he took steps.

[A]

Roy, send on that pic. Yo, I asked. I'm real. Spill.

[F]

You ask about.

[C]

I got. You know, I got a lot of male friends. I'm sitting in rooms like this at my house. Right?

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And I asked, like, I said, like, oh, is. We had a conversation and they was like, yeah, all of our. They. Most of them in the room said their dicks grew, like, after. Like, after being in the.

[A]

Would you do, like, a dick rating, like, if a sent you the hammer?

[C]

What you mean?

[B]

It's a category on fans. That's a.

[A]

Are you serious?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What's it called?

[B]

It's a service they offer.

[D]

What's it called?

[C]

Basically, he's asking rating.

[A]

Rating.

[D]

Okay. That's what I heard you were.

[A]

So you send your ME they give

[B]

you a little compliment or like a

[D]

report, but they got to give you a compliment if you pay.

[B]

Some people are in humiliation, man. We're not going to kink shame up here.

[D]

I'm at no judgment. I didn't even consider that.

[F]

Ah.

[C]

I just posted in my close friends a video of this guy. He was like 350ft, probably like 6:2, with the dick the size of a belly button.

[B]

And you posted that?

[C]

Yes, I posted. Everybody was so mad at my close friends.

[D]

Was he proud about it?

[C]

I got to put you on My close friends.

[A]

No, you don't.

[F]

No, you don't.

[C]

Totally. He totally looks at the camera because it's like a. It's. It probably went viral from wherever guys from. He sound like from Atlanta or something. And he's talking to us. He's talking to the camera. He's talking about his man behind him. He's talking about how big his friend's dick is. Oh, he got a big dick. Bam, y'. All. He just pulls his pants down. He has a belly button for a dick.

[B]

That's exciting.

[C]

So tiny.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

That's what friends are for.

[E]

You put that in your close friends?

[C]

Yes. The guys were so upset because you could not tell what it was in the beginning, cuz it's like regular people talking. Yeah. I like to keep it exciting in my medical condition. Y' all all getting at it tonight. And if you remove yourself, I'm blocking you, cuz that's so rude.

[A]

Well, off of Diana Rossini, let's get to one of my favorite favorite comedians out there, Nikki Glazer.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Nikki Glazer was on Call Her Daddy and had this to say.

[G]

How lame it comes across. I sometimes don't like to tell guys about this thing that I have where I'm like, you know, this is separate than the soulmate thing. Like, I don't care if a guy has a sexual connection with a girl. And, like, he was to use protection and just have sex with her for a night. Like, I don't. I literally wouldn't care if my husband did that. I don't. I don't know why. I don't know why. If he were to, like, watch the Wire with her.

[B]

The Wire.

[G]

Crossword puzzles, or, like, text, like, send memes and stuff, I would be like, what the are you doing? Like, that's our thing. Like, emotional cheating would hurt me, but, like, physical. I'M just like. I kind of. I just feel like I understand how sex is for men most of the time. Outside of relationship, it's just kind of transactional, and it's just like, they just want a nut. And it's not about, like, I want to spend my life with this woman. Woman. So it wouldn't feel. I just. I don't know. I. I just wouldn't.

[A]

Okay.

[G]

Care as much. So our barometer is no. Emotional cheating. Yeah, totally. Physically cheating is good, but I understand emotional cheating. Like, if something were to happen where I would want them to tell me about it, I would be obviously hurt, but I would understand being drawn to someone else that you have a good connection with because it's, like, it's hard to. When you just find someone and it's monogamy, your brain doesn't turn off. He's still gonna be attracted to other women. He's still gonna, like, be interested in other girls and have good conversations and stuff. So I could see something developing, and I would be heartbroken that it happened, especially if it went on without me knowing about it. But I would. I would. It. I would always ask anyone I was with to be like, if you develop feelings for the ones, tell me, and we'll deal with it. Like, I just don't want to be blindsided. But if you want to have sex with someone else, also tell me about it, because I want to, like, see what she looks like and, like, ask you about it.

[A]

Okay, wait, hold on.

[G]

So do you identify as, like, poly or, like, open relationship?

[D]

Relationship girly.

[G]

I want, like, another girlfriend. I don't want. And I don't want to, like, be in bed with you guys together. Okay. Not even in the same room. No, I don't want to, like, be. And I don't want to be in the chair in the corner. Like, cuckold is, like, watching. I just want to hear about it later. Okay. You call this the hot husband fetish, which is essentially when you want your

[D]

partner to have sexual experiences with other

[G]

people outside of the relationship. Yeah. So when did this start for you, Nikki? Let's go back. Started with my. My boyfriend when I was 29, because I really hadn't had a boyfriend before. Then he would tell me about, like, I would always ask him about, like, past hookups and girlfriends and how they got together. Like, I was, like, the beginning. Like, how did you miss. First know you liked each other? Like, I love that.

[A]

Like, I cut it off. But she goes on to say that she liked listening to the stories. So Much that eventually he ran out of stories and she encouraged him. Go make new stories. Go new people.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Round of applause. Round of applause.

[B]

Shoots a gun.

[A]

Fucks the shots. Come on, Nikki Glazer. Oh, my God.

[B]

Feel this way because of ego or embarrassment of social norms.

[C]

That's what it is, society. Yeah, it's societal. It's like you be in a situation and your guy has this girl that he fucks with and you really don't give a fuck. But your aunt calls you and your girlfriend call you, and when they see him, and it's like for the most part, you respond and react off of what they say and how they carry it. At the end of the day, I've always felt like if you're happy and you feel okay, that's just what it is. You don't have to like, involve everybody. I don't think that sex is like a big deal. I couldn't see myself leaving somebody for fucking on me or getting their dick sucked. Like, that's not a reason to break up to me. Now, if you did a bunch of shit to hide that from me, that disloyal like that, that might make me leave you, you know?

[B]

But if you just slipped and fell and ran into a dick suck.

[C]

Not even Slipp. If you, the girl at your job, your sister, whatever, she sucked your dick

[B]

or you had to sell some drugs, some ketamine.

[A]

It was a surfing other Powerball girl at the gas station from the getty down the street, the Silico.

[C]

Seriously. And on top of the of fact, first of all, me and my ex, his favorite porn star came to our area. Y' all going, who? Bug out? It was Cherokee. He was a Cherokee fan. No. Was it Cherokee? No, it wasn't. It was the one with the butterfly on ass. Who's the one from back in the day with the butterfly on the ass?

[F]

Not Roxy.

[C]

Y' all know who I'm talking about. It's not Ebony. It's something.

[B]

You know the answer. You know the answer.

[D]

Knowing exactly who it is, right?

[C]

The one with the butter.

[A]

Either way, either Cherokee or Roxy.

[C]

Nah, Cherokee or Roxy. So I might be right about Cherokee.

[A]

Okay, so help.

[C]

But y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

Y' all know the porn stars will go on those little strip club tours,

[A]

get the hood bookings. I know. I know exactly what you talking about.

[C]

So when we went, because that was somebody that was a big deal. Then we went. I didn't expect us to be like that close to them. And then he threw the most money in there. So she was like Talking to us. And I asked her like how much or whatever. And I offered that to him as a gift. He was, was scary about it. He didn't want to do it. But that I thought that was ill. Like if I would have pay. I'mma pay her you on your birthday. I just thought that was like gift very thoughtful. And then it's like y' all play so much. I never could tell how y' all really feel about chick. I just don't think your favorite porn star somebody you grew up jerking off you them like what's that? How's that going to bother our relationship on top of the fact that you never even thought about this. That's not better than cologne. But I think it would work the opposite way. I think he was like low key, mortified.

[D]

Was he intimidated or. Oh, mortified.

[C]

He, he, he seemed scared to me. But I mean if I, he made it like a moral thing, like I wouldn't do that to you. Like it's my offer. I, I didn't talk to the test.

[A]

I thought it was a set up.

[F]

It was a test.

[D]

It was a trick or he was intimidated. I don't think intimidated by porn stars.

[C]

I'm not a tester. Yeah, I'm not one of them. Type of.

[D]

Huh?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't know any.

[C]

I don't know. I think I agree with her. I think sex is sex. I think it's levels to shit. It is more hurtful for somebody to be spending time with somebody investing in a business. You know, certain shit, men give you money, they look at you a certain way.

[B]

Did she say you have to use a condom?

[C]

No. Yeah, she did. She did say that. That you had to use the condom.

[B]

I thought she said that, but she don't.

[E]

I've had an ex tell me that before. Like, yo, dog, did you listen? She said, yo. She said, yo, I don't give a if you. Cause I know who you are. She's like, yo, you be building these mental connections with girls. She said that. She's like, yo, you sit on the phone with a mad long trying to fix their life and all that them and come back home, she knew your whole game.

[D]

No dead.

[E]

I'm dead ass.

[A]

She had you dead to rights.

[C]

And how did you respond to that?

[D]

I started laughing.

[E]

She said, yo, no, I'm saying, did you.

[C]

You know, did you start.

[E]

And being open was like, yo, you know, she's nuts. He know her so he know she say something like that, Wouldn't she say something like that?

[A]

I couldn't hear the name. I'm not.

[E]

He said, yo, this Tabitha, right? So.

[A]

Oh, she was.

[C]

I was joking. I didn't even hear nothing.

[A]

So the.

[E]

So she was like, yo, dog, if we in the mall.

[A]

Yo, she had him in his place. Clearly, that's not true.

[C]

My bad.

[A]

I made that up.

[C]

I didn't hear it anyway, right?

[E]

She said, yo. And I quote, she was like, yo, dog, if we in the mall and a girl come up to me and be like, yo, you was just fucking with me yesterday. She said, I'm just asking two questions. Like, yo, did he eat you out?

[B]

That was forbidden.

[E]

And did. And did he wear a condom? And she was like, yo, if those two things check out, bitch, we got shopping to do. Like, you just got. Excuse us. A lot of women.

[A]

Your girl will get mad if you eat somebody else.

[E]

Yo, a lot of women feel like that. Again, a lot of them might not say it publicly because of society, but a lot of people feel like that. It's dudes out here too. I know. That be for sure letting their wife get busted by.

[A]

This is a super mature frame of mind.

[D]

Are y' all anybody? Are y' all that mature?

[C]

I'm not being honest.

[A]

No. Kind of immature people are lying.

[D]

Are you possessive?

[E]

About what?

[A]

Possessive?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, or just regular, like, just. Nobody else can about my possession. I'm not saying they're the same thing. I'm saying, are you, like, on one extreme or you kind of down the middle?

[A]

I think I'm on the extreme. I ain't letting nobody.

[C]

My woman, no man's.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think that's. I don't think that's extreme. I think that's just regular.

[A]

You think you're right in the matter, huh?

[C]

A cuck.

[A]

Do you think you have a say in the matter? A say in the matter? No. If she gonna. She gonna. Okay, all right. That's. That's just a fact.

[D]

That's science.

[C]

But it's not that. What. What she said and what I said, you're never gonna hear a man say, not a black man.

[D]

It's some dudes that's into that.

[C]

But, like, a cuck. Like, watching.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[D]

I get what you say. She said, like, she's doing as an act of generosity and love. He said, if a dude is doing this because he. It's his twist. He getting off on it or he's

[C]

doing his own experiences, like, no black man's telling you that. Oh, go get more experiences.

[D]

Yeah, I'm never doing that.

[A]

Go see the world to revisit that cuck topic for a minute. And not that I want to be the guy to do it.

[C]

Please revisit the cook topic.

[A]

If you enjoy watching your girl a. Another girl, you're a cuck.

[C]

No, I thought that was a guy.

[E]

I think so.

[B]

I think he technically would still be

[C]

a be a guy.

[B]

I think he would still be a. I know it's. It's back to the double standard shits, but I think he would still be a cuck.

[A]

I think that. Yeah, by definition, I think you are still.

[B]

What if she straps up?

[D]

And if she strapped up, you definitely would be. Right?

[B]

Yeah, I would think.

[A]

Why would you want to do that?

[B]

No, I'm saying if your.

[A]

If your girl got strapped, I run out the house. Holy shit. Where'd that come from? You've been on Amazon again.

[C]

A cup has to be a male and female thing.

[A]

Oh, it does.

[C]

I knew that.

[A]

That's what it said.

[B]

Yes, but what if it's a girl with a strap?

[A]

A strap?

[C]

Bro, we not doing Parks take the

[A]

chain on the motherfucker. He wants in it.

[F]

He lost his mom over here listening. I'm telling you, he also freaks. You good, Parks? I'm great.

[B]

It's a question.

[A]

But I will say about Nikki Glazer.

[E]

That's wrong. That's the old definition. They said the modern usage and fetishism is a consensual kink. A modern cuckoo is fully aware of and derives sexual pleasure from their partner's activities with other people. This often involves elements of voyeurism or masochism.

[A]

Okay, so under this new definition, who in this room is not a cuck?

[C]

I just don't get no cuck. Hear me?

[A]

I think Nikki Glaser is being cuckish. I won't call her a cuck.

[B]

Yeah, that's cuck.

[A]

But if you get off on hearing your partner say stories about it's cuckish,

[E]

it is about his adventures, I think, also. And it made it full circle. You can't tell Nikki Glazer hang with the homies. Yeah, she be in a room full of niggas all the time, hearing how niggas talk, hearing how niggas chopping up, up. And she understood.

[A]

Comedian homie. They in there get telling the truth.

[E]

Truth.

[D]

She understood.

[A]

And they live on the road.

[E]

What you hear from her too, is she has an understanding of men behind the close behind the scenes.

[A]

Okay, wait a minute. I want to go back because I don't believe anybody in the room.

[D]

Why don't you believe it?

[A]

Because respectfully of course, I'm not really. But in the spirit of the conversation, if you're. I'll use B dot. Because I don't want to use y'. All. If your girl was in front of you doing shit with a girl that you found equally as attractive, you think you would stay soft. And I have that same question for y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

Oh, I'm still thinking about dudes.

[B]

Yeah. No, we were talking about new definition.

[D]

I said the new definition.

[E]

I don't know how I respond. Not sure.

[A]

B dot. I think I'll be turned on. Every man here mark some, so I'm

[D]

guessing I would be. But y' all would be turned on

[A]

even if you was trying to not be turned on.

[D]

Exactly, But I'm not, like, looking for that, like, flip, right?

[A]

Yeah, but the fact that you're not looking for it. I understand your answer.

[E]

Yeah, see, I don't. I don't know.

[D]

Yeah, I don't know. I am being honest. I've had girls, I've dated women where I did want that, and when they, you know.

[B]

So you've been a cuck by the modern definition.

[D]

I'm saying right now. I don't. My mindset is different. I don't know.

[F]

So he changed.

[B]

I don't think he specified right now. Maybe I have to remove it.

[D]

Hear what I'm saying? I'm saying I think if it's just a somebody I'm seeing casual, to me, that's just one step from a threesome. I think for me, the game was always to get into a threesome. But the idea of just sitting there on the corner watching somebody shish kaba my wife or watching some.

[B]

Some good shish kebab.

[A]

I mean, it don't have to be the corner. They always make it sound like the monster is uncomfortable. Now light a cigar.

[F]

He said no, bro.

[D]

Stop.

[F]

He said no. He said no.

[D]

Yeah, I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

If I'm just knowing that they just. I'm just watching they into that boy and I'm not getting into it. And I don't think. Yeah, I. I don't think I talked about it before.

[B]

You said I would watch that.

[E]

This the thing. This is the thing.

[A]

Walking off again. Go. Go ahead. Walk off, brother.

[D]

Your.

[B]

Your girl and another hot chick, you're going to be like, oh, my God, no.

[A]

Hey, my girl in another hot chick just ordering coffee, right? What are we talking about?

[F]

Surfing in the USA park? My eyes.

[A]

What are we talking about? I love it up here.

[F]

I'm just saying, you can't force Mark Said, nah, bro. Let him live.

[C]

Flip, you didn't answer yet.

[F]

Yeah, I did.

[C]

What you say?

[A]

I didn't hear you.

[F]

If I see my wife and another girl.

[A]

Your wife and ny black man getting. Getting this.

[F]

Doing a dynam. My family.

[A]

I would never do that.

[F]

Never.

[A]

I would never do that.

[D]

Never do that up here.

[F]

No. I watch.

[A]

All right. I'm. Everyone's just scared of the word and I understand. But cuz cuck sounds like it comes with a dude. It needs a rebrand.

[C]

I don't think I would like looking at no like that.

[A]

Looking at what?

[C]

Of course. A man and a woman. My man and another. I wouldn't like that.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Just watching it.

[A]

Tabitha would like that.

[C]

Tab might like it. But Damon be pissed. I don't got. I ain't mature like that.

[A]

Oh my God. All right, we need a new word for cuck then. Yeah, yeah, I see.

[D]

Cuck.

[A]

Just scared.

[B]

Yeah. Got a nasty.

[A]

Yeah, it's true.

[C]

That's interesting that the definition changed though.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

Society.

[A]

It's a different word.

[B]

It's a different world. Words do evolve etymology.

[A]

There you go. Y' all know these new age kids are not bringing dates to the prom.

[B]

Huh?

[E]

Cuz they're losers and they don't mind cucking.

[D]

What you mean?

[F]

They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not going to the prom? Dolo.

[D]

Nope.

[E]

Crazy.

[C]

Yes, they are.

[E]

These new kids.

[A]

New age kids. Some. I'm not saying all.

[E]

A lot of them go to the prom with their homies, I think.

[A]

Yes. A lot of these are going to the prom with their crew. Dude.

[C]

Cruise.

[F]

They're renting the vehicle. All them.

[A]

And going to have like a guy night.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I think that a lot of people are even. Not just this new age of kids, but even probably my generation are just deathly scared of commitment now because the Internet exists and there's mad options out there. So no, I'm not gonna take this one girl to the prom when there's 200 girls at the prom.

[E]

No, no, that's. They don't go to your school. No, dog. These little be early. Back in the day it was yo, I can't wait to go to prom. Cause that might be my first time hitting it. They don't. Sharon 77 times.

[D]

The whole school.

[E]

These girls already they different.

[A]

Sharon 65, back in his days.

[E]

I'm joking.

[D]

Like these little Everybody. Dolores.

[E]

I got mad people in my life that are in education. Principals, guidance counselors, teachers. These little kids are doing sexual that we could not fathom teachers be.

[F]

You had to call the house and ask permission to take her to the prom and all that stuff.

[E]

And these little kids be having. You think I'm joking my. No, you're talking about 12, 13, 14 years old. These little kids is having threesomes and orgies and all that we wasn't doing want that so.

[A]

But even in the situation, even in the scenario you're describing, why can't you? All right. Been all year long everybody, everybody in school now prom time. Why you can't pick a girl you didn't yet and bring her to the

[E]

prom because if you wanted to.

[A]

Because everybody else the girl if you wanted them.

[E]

Joe Pop.

[C]

I think that's what park said about commitment. It's the commitment. Back in the day your girlfriend was your prime date. I don't know. When I was a kid people were praying pregnant in sixth and seventh grade. So the whole thing about people not people having sex younger. We were more teen moms than they are now. So that doesn't make sense to me.

[E]

But yo, that was. That was. There was a girl that might have been pregnant as a teen. There were a couple girls that got pregnant in high school. I'm talking about the entire school is avidly having sex.

[B]

People is.

[C]

I totally understand.

[E]

I'm older than y'. All.

[C]

I totally understand what you're saying. But I'm just telling you that because when I was in middle school, people had kids. Not one or two. It was a couple that had kids which. And having kids having sex. That age you have kids because you don't know what the fuck you're doing. You don't know how to protect yourself and you don't tell nobody. So you end up having a fucking

[B]

half of my friends either had kids at 14 or 40.

[A]

Exactly, exactly.

[C]

Exactly. And if you look at the numbers now teen pregnancy is down. You know what I mean so.

[A]

But nowadays we don't down in that. In that age group.

[B]

Yeah. So that's a big part of it.

[C]

And it's a connection and drinking yo.

[A]

Not talking about high schools.

[C]

We went outside and played till we smell we cross town street. These don't even leave to connect. You know what I mean? It's just different now. Everybody is.

[A]

I was still scared of when I went to prawns.

[D]

Yes.

[E]

Like dog wasn't just out here king dingling and again when they was younger.

[A]

Yeah. I was looking for little hush puppies.

[E]

No, it was some what I was just looking for something. Don't tell nobody that no more.

[A]

Y' all went to y' all reversion. Don't play with me. I'll pull up the picture.

[E]

You did not have on a cream suit with no lime green Hush Puppies.

[A]

And I absolutely killed that prom. Maris prom. Ask about me. Oh, is it Prom King Joe? I was a dropout by that. Now I'm gonna find my Maris prom pictures with the lime green hush Puppies in the cream suit.

[B]

Horrible.

[F]

What you wish.

[A]

Yeah. Now what? What you had on.

[D]

What you want.

[A]

What you had on.

[E]

My first prom I went to.

[D]

Yes.

[E]

I had lizards on. I didn't have no Hush Puppies on my.

[A]

Well, you knew boosters.

[E]

No, I was in.

[A]

I didn't. You had more money than me at 16.

[E]

My cousin just sent me a picture too. That was at my house.

[A]

I'll show you right now, too.

[F]

Show us.

[A]

I believe you had something.

[C]

Y' all went to the prom.

[A]

I didn't go to my prom.

[C]

Me neither.

[A]

I didn't go to my prom.

[F]

I didn't go to my three proms.

[A]

I went to other proms.

[C]

Why didn't y' all go to yours?

[A]

That was.

[F]

I got kicked out of school.

[C]

I got kicked out too.

[A]

Same. Nobody cared at my school before I left.

[E]

Just rejoice in loserism.

[A]

That was cool.

[C]

I graduated high school, but from getting in trouble, I wasn't allowed to go to the prom.

[A]

That was corny. In our school, we was looking more forward to going to Six Flags the next day on them charter buses. Then going to the actual Promise that senior. Oh, they was getting on them buses too.

[B]

I skipped the ski finger popping on the.

[C]

I wasn't allowed to go there, you

[B]

know, But I didn't go to prom.

[D]

I went to prom too.

[B]

It was good. I got lit. It was fun.

[F]

How many proms you went to, Mark?

[D]

Just one. Just mine.

[A]

Loser.

[F]

I went. I went to three.

[D]

You went to three prom.

[A]

Flip.

[C]

Went to three proms. Which ones?

[F]

I went to.

[D]

How old were you two?

[F]

I was from 17. I went to. What was the number one school? Stuyvesant. I went to Stuyvesant's bar because my mom. My mom worked in the mayor's office, so I wanted to go to her daughter's house.

[A]

She pulled some strings to go to a prom. To go to the prom.

[D]

He's a good boy.

[F]

I went to Stuyvesant.

[E]

My mother was on the board of Ed. So you went to the Stuyvesant?

[F]

No, she wasn't on the board of Ed, but my mom. My mom was for the mayor's office. Her boss daughter went to the school I went to. But I got kicked out.

[D]

I meant you was doing a favor.

[F]

I just went to the prom

[C]

Mary Bertram like it's Harvard. I know where Mary Berm is now. I promise.

[F]

I went to Van Buren.

[A]

Van Buren?

[B]

Are you just the day we were

[F]

school and then I went to think Prospect Heights if I'm not mistaken. If I'm not mist about the three.

[B]

Three burrows.

[F]

No. I went to 11 schools in my life. God, I'm not proud of that. I used to be proud of up here. That is whack. Ever since I got into that whole sphere of your world.

[D]

Reading and stuff.

[A]

Books.

[F]

You, you, you. Yo, that is whack.

[A]

11 school.

[F]

I don't want 11 school crazy. I went to one school,

[A]

right?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So chick I went to my that marriage prom with you was trying to me that whole year I was so scared of. She just knew it was gonna happen on prom night. I was still scared of she still

[E]

wanted to you after the lime green

[A]

hushes I smoked them lime green hushes.

[C]

Lime green hush puppies. Depending on the year might have been hard.

[A]

It was 96. Oh, yeah. That's ghost face. It's 96.

[C]

Yeah, you had it Hush Puppies were

[A]

sold out all over Jersey. Any I'm trying to have a fly color on anyway that track her dad told make sure you have oh, she'll be back, buddy. All right. Trust me. I'm dropping it right to you. I a had no money for no hotel. None of that. What you got these kids today. This nigga's going to to prom in a McLaren.

[D]

These these be having

[A]

looking like weddings.

[F]

Yo, he driving.

[A]

Huh?

[D]

He driving.

[A]

Driving.

[E]

Be careful y' all be having on Rolls Royces. They be having all of that. So again I'm hanging out with my I could care less about Keisha that tomorrow and he said he he ain't

[A]

going to prom with no right. I'm bugging. Yeah, he going to prom with nobody.

[D]

Wait, you going to the prom in the McLaren solo?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, that makes sense. That's true.

[B]

That's the catch.

[D]

Okay, I see. I see it. I get it. I see the vision. I see the vision.

[F]

I know what he doing. Oh, you talking about he doing the

[D]

old school

[A]

got up started using the lip brush scholarship.

[E]

I'm getting double team.

[A]

Want to go home.

[B]

Yeah, it's going to be hard to put the threesome in the in McLaren.

[A]

Listen, all that just sounds I'mma sit on the lap.

[E]

You never seen him lap up.

[A]

I told y' All I was going to think about taking him to the Knick game if his Tourette's was acting, right? Yeah, yeah, I took him. There was no. There was no Tourette's. He was cool.

[B]

Good.

[E]

You introduced him to JT and him. Who, Jason Tatum or.

[A]

No, no. But JT said, what up? And I said, get the. Out from my seat. But when I looked over, it was halftime.

[B]

Did he bring the shoes?

[A]

I looked over to. On his phone. I'mma hold you down. I'mma hold you down. I ain't. I looked over on that phone, boy, he was right. No, write a book to somebody. It was. It was a. It was a long book. So.

[F]

No, you had the game.

[A]

So you know I'm petty.

[F]

That little.

[E]

Nah.

[A]

So you know I'm petty. I wouldn't. I wouldn't try to read the text before that. Some poor innocent lady saying, oh, I just know when you go to college, you gonna be everybody.

[E]

Not me, baby.

[D]

No.

[B]

Is that our fault? Our fault?

[A]

When I tell you all the. That he wrote back, it's our fault.

[B]

Cuz of that you pulled at the end of the Patreon.

[A]

Nah, my bad.

[B]

You set him up, man.

[E]

You the apple of my eye, girl.

[F]

Never.

[A]

Yo, he wrote some back dope up. No, that I. I told him, erase that.

[F]

Oh, you have to. You have to fix that.

[D]

I guess.

[A]

Yeah, we were just popping.

[B]

We were just popping. That's what you say.

[A]

Yeah, we put it together that he wrote.

[F]

But wait, was he writing it to cater to her feelings or was it.

[A]

That's what he thought he was doing,

[D]

but it was some curse shit.

[A]

Now. Now I'm going spill it just. Cause it's okay. I'mma just give you the first.

[B]

He gonna get another tomahawk.

[A]

No, just the fact that she don't listen to.

[E]

It's the main.

[A]

Just for the first two sentences.

[D]

Last one I got pretty soon.

[A]

So she said, yo, I just know when you go to college, you gonna be fucking everybody. This nigga said, not everybody. He said, basically, he said, he, you know, I go to college, it's nothing but white girls up there. I don't be white girls. I said, yo, erase that. That ain't saying what you're trying to say, big dog. Word.

[F]

Holy.

[A]

Oh, that is hilarious.

[E]

You know, it's like 90 white, but that's 10%, right?

[A]

Yo, fuck. Oh, man, that is hilarious. What else we got?

[D]

This important or unexpected super important news. Yes. Oh, let's do it. Chris Brown and Usher announced that they going on tour.

[A]

Hey.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Well, we knew that. Cause Ice told us.

[F]

Ice told us.

[D]

He told us off air though. He ain't, we ain't announced it. So shout out to Ice for being a news story. That's big.

[A]

I'll be there. I think that's gonna break all box office tour records. That's gonna be like big.

[E]

But can you, can you, can you do more than what he already did in numbers?

[C]

Who, Chris?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

He sold out.

[E]

He sold out stadium. What more could you do?

[D]

They're gonna charge.

[E]

You can add more money and you can add seats.

[C]

There's a show. Show like Chris.

[D]

Yeah, it's gonna generate more revenue.

[E]

No, you got three and four shows and then the, the bump ups going be in the ticket prices.

[A]

That meet and greet's going to be more expensive.

[D]

It's going to be like Beyonce prices.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's going to be a great show though.

[A]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[E]

I think it's going.

[A]

Go ahead, come on, rep for your cousin. Say it.

[E]

I think it's going to show. I think it's going to show.

[D]

Oh, oh, keep saying, keep talking.

[A]

It's going to show. What's going to show? What you mean?

[E]

I think he going to show Usher up on a different level.

[A]

Oh, would you, do you think that he will intend to do that? No, it'll just happen.

[E]

I think it's just gonna be organic. I think it's gonna be organic.

[D]

Either that or he cross your mind to cross his.

[E]

Or he gonna have to dumb down the show.

[A]

Who do you think goes first?

[C]

He dumb down the show.

[A]

They're gonna, they gonna do the stupid back and forth that I, that I normally hate. I don't know if I hate it in this instance because it's Chris Brown and Usher.

[E]

He gonna have to dumb it down. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

He not gonna dumb it down.

[D]

I think what you're gonna see, I mean I think that if they on tour together and there's a brotherhood there, whether it's forced, real, whatever, Chris Brown can't be the full Chris Brown. One man show. Chris Brown.

[E]

I agree.

[D]

He just can't be. But also don't underestimate what Usher do to a crowd even though he's not in the same shape.

[E]

I'm talking about performance.

[D]

No, no, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying some of them Usher songs go in a way that just. I, I think it's gonna look way more even than I think some people think it is.

[B]

It's also cool if Chris Brown is Kendrick.

[D]

Kendrick, Scissors thing. It's gonna be like back and forth.

[B]

It's also cool if Chris Brown's doing flips and hanging from the suspension and then Usher kind of casually strolls out and does an absolute smash banger. Like, it's fine. You don't have to.

[A]

That's the only place where I'm a little off. What is she saying? Even if ish is correct, I think Usher's records are correct.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Even if Chris do that and everybody agrees us, your records is kind of just hard.

[E]

Yeah, I know.

[F]

I'm not.

[A]

That's also going to make it hard for the. For the s of Kendrick. Back and forth to me too. So you rather like to have the own individual sets.

[C]

They should do Usher first.

[A]

I hate back and forth.

[C]

They should do Usher and Chris.

[A]

I hated it at Scissor Kendrick. I hated it at new Edition. Every time I. I've seen a back and forth.

[D]

I didn't hate New addition. I didn't hear.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

New edition was the sound that made it up. If. If it sounded right, I think that would have been fire.

[A]

Agreed. Well, yeah, maybe if the sound was right for me.

[D]

Kendrick. Scissors was a problem because genres. Yeah, the genres are so different, and I'm not so into all the scissors music. I came for Kendrick. So it was kind of like there were large lows where I was like, all right, see, but if you're a

[A]

Usher fan, you're probably a Chris Brown fan too.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That's why I think the back and forth works for them. I think it's gonna be dope.

[B]

I'm a fan of both Kendrick and scissors. Huge fan of both. I mixing them up. I just. I'm one mood over here, and now you're taking me out of that mood. Put me over here and now I'm going back.

[C]

Yeah, like, I just went to the breezy bowl. Cuz that's. That tore a lot. Cuz he just.

[A]

Yeah, like.

[C]

But it's like the way he got. He get the room full of, like. I just couldn't imagine separating that like that. I just think it makes more sense to let it run. His show is so good. Then he got the nerve to get. Get up and fly over top of you Peter Pan.

[A]

Now. I went to Usher in Vegas. Hoes was there. They. They got dressed too. Yeah, they got dressed. I've been to Chris Brown arena.

[B]

They were there.

[A]

All of them were there undressed and it was raining when I went there. The hoes did not Care. So this is gonna be a good mix of the younger and the older. Older women coming together.

[B]

Dressed and undressed.

[D]

Dressed and undressed.

[A]

You're dressed and undressed and seeing what they.

[E]

Then it's gonna be.

[A]

Oh, Cherry's gonna be sold out. All stadiums, right. Sherry's sold out Stadiums. All stadiums.

[E]

Okay. So that's the, that's a little thing with the Usher show. It was more intimate.

[A]

So they, they residency.

[E]

They had that on.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

When you outside in the stadium, you could get your hoe on.

[D]

Yeah. Cause they had their hoe on in the Barclays.

[E]

When I went, you could get your hoe on. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I saw him in the Barclays.

[E]

He's a little different when you, when you in Vegas. It's, you know, quaint. You was in there with your little. You know what I'm saying? Your sequence on. So you wouldn't wear that.

[D]

No, he had his lime greens on.

[E]

No, no, no.

[D]

It looked nice.

[E]

I'm saying you wouldn't wear that to an outside show is what I'm saying. Like there's just. The attire is gonna be different than what you will wear outside. When you go outside, you could be out there with, you know, I mean, girls is coming to get.

[A]

I'm glad because I'm the biggest Chris Brown fan in the world. But his show was too long. Like, it was too many slaps. How long do you think this song.

[E]

I ain't want to say nothing.

[A]

He did three and a half hours. Dolo of slaps.

[E]

Dolo niggas was leaving all records.

[A]

He might have left records off by the end. My feet was hurting. I was mad at niggas in front of me and behind me. Had to piss but couldn't go. Bathroom line is long. Hungry again. Even though I ate like, Yeah, a mess on Instagram.

[E]

Like, yo, there's some.

[D]

I'm leaving.

[E]

He just played my.

[A]

And you can hear in the background.

[E]

They're like, yo, it's 12 o' clock and I gotta go to work in the morning.

[F]

This is some.

[E]

And you can hear slaps coming on as they walk into the car.

[A]

I went to my car and just heard the slap.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's probably gonna be like a four hour set then. It has to be at least. No, we ain't gonna do that.

[D]

I'm not sitting through that.

[A]

99, 90.

[D]

I'm old 9090 too long for me. Yeah, it's old 90 90.

[A]

He did three and a half with just him. Bro, what's your day? I want to see 3? 3 on the show.

[E]

When you. When you went. When I went to 1111. Cause I ain't go to the breezy. But we went to 1111. The was doing the shit where he was just spinning the wheel and wherever the wheel lands. That's how many songs that had that he didn't play. He would just spin a wheel and wherever the song land and they.

[A]

Usher, If I had to give you a word of advice, which I could never as Joe Budden, but that's never stopped me before. Your backup dances are cool.

[F]

Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness.

[A]

They cool.

[F]

Very nice.

[A]

When y' all get to skating around, it should be looking smooth, huh?

[F]

But the breezy one?

[A]

Yeah, he might have one. That's my baby.

[F]

That's my girl.

[A]

What? That's all everybody. That's. That's the one. She nice. She keep it peach. Oh, she gotta find one of them for him. Get a fat chick.

[E]

No, she got about. He got three or four of them.

[D]

Let it burn.

[E]

He got three or four.

[A]

Oh, Usher do have one. He has his version of the boy. Oh, hold up. Now we playing. I remember that girl we was looking at up there was like, all right, Usher, he got one where. If you don't think for a second you think he her.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

The dancer did the twerka.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

He got one. He got one. Yeah. Now in the verses, I think she loses to. To the bald headed girl.

[E]

No, but Chris got three of them. He don't just got the ball head one.

[A]

The ball head one.

[F]

In the dancer versus.

[E]

He got two slimmer ones.

[A]

That's fire. I'll be there.

[E]

He got two slim ones.

[A]

That's baby. We got to go to that show, Chris Brown. We got to make sure that he ain't taking somebody's girlfriend and making out with her on stage. Like how he did the.

[E]

Is that what he did?

[A]

Never.

[E]

I don't think he.

[F]

You ain't get the sweet prices yet, right?

[A]

Sweet prices did not come back in yet, but it's going to be available. You're saying sweet prices are not in. But I got a call that said, in the event the sweet don't work out, I'm guaranteed two tickets, Please, sir.

[F]

I'm too proud. Like you ain't too proud? I ain't too proud. The bagels change.

[D]

Some spare change.

[F]

Yeah, we know you like the European girls.

[A]

That them tickets going to be harder for people to get then I think they know.

[E]

No got them already. A lot of people got tickets.

[F]

Yo, Mona, you coming? If we. If we get the sweet. You coming?

[E]

A lot of people got sweet.

[C]

For what?

[A]

For the Jay Z show, the General Pop tickets.

[C]

My invite is the or this Get a sweet. Going to let us come?

[F]

We in there.

[D]

We in there.

[C]

Y' all being hopeful?

[F]

No, he found like the agent play. He a good dude now.

[A]

He may.

[F]

He said he removing some niggas off the list.

[A]

No, I said anybody ain't gonna come. Six grand a pop.

[C]

Yeah, Say what?

[A]

Six grand a pop.

[C]

Six grand a pop.

[A]

Y' all ain't doing that.

[D]

You ain't gonna be with y', all, huh? For six.

[C]

It's six grand a pop each for

[D]

us to be in the box.

[A]

Six grand.

[D]

I'd rather just pay my own tickets and be downstairs.

[E]

That's six grand. Better come with some box.

[C]

You trying to.

[F]

Trying to in this week.

[D]

That's gross.

[C]

You asking me am I paying six grand?

[F]

I'm not paying. I'm not paying six grand.

[C]

Are you? But you going.

[F]

I'm in there, boy. It's my man. I'm in there. I know too much. I'm in now. He.

[D]

He may.

[F]

He may pull a move and kick me out. Get this out of here. Then I'm just going to come up here and turn up. Okay, what is this? This? Yeah. Tuesday, I'm wilding. I might take a camera or two. Nigga like flip wild out again.

[A]

I'm going live ushering Chris Brown. I'm there. It's going to be.

[F]

I charge a six grand pop.

[A]

For real?

[F]

Is your mom for real?

[A]

Wait, y. If I pay 125k for a suite,

[F]

you get 6 grand?

[A]

I shouldn't be charging people.

[F]

You should, but not up here.

[D]

No, you should not the up here.

[A]

You should charge.

[F]

You charging outside.

[D]

We would do the same for you.

[F]

Charge Vern.

[A]

Charge ver. Yo, what else do they need us? What else do they need us? Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Oh, just for the record, there no dates been announced for Chris Brown and Usher yet, so it's probably going to be 20. It's just Chris's cousin. You think I'm waiting for dates to come from the web?

[F]

And he don't want to go talk to his cousin. Like he's like that proud.

[A]

He ain't waiting on the way.

[F]

He too proud. He don't want to talk to this cousin.

[A]

Oh, you're me. Hold up now. This is so stupid. Oh, my God. Actually, that's the other thing. I know it's a good idea. For people to release music. Around the time that tours are announced, I know Chris Brown is going to release some music.

[E]

This is a brain, yo.

[A]

Good. I just want us. I love us. I wanted to be careful you with that little light skinned boy if you want now. Cause he gonna try and drop something to end you while the tour is happening.

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

See, before the tour start, he's just coming on some light spring right now. Now this boy ain't to be played with egg.

[D]

Yeah, you know how we.

[A]

This is hard, right?

[D]

This night come down your mountain. Let's stay in the house.

[F]

I'mma drink from your fountain.

[A]

Break it down for me now.

[F]

Break it down for me, baby.

[C]

I need it.

[A]

Go baby. I'm running. You know.

[F]

It's obvious don't stop, put it in rotation.

[A]

Put that body in me con Usher. Be careful. Yo, who wins in that versus Joe? Excuse me? Who wins in that versus Usher and Bre?

[F]

Usher and Breezy.

[A]

Yeah, that's tough.

[D]

I take Usher.

[F]

Is it really tough?

[A]

It's tough, man. Chris got a lot of records, man.

[F]

I take Usher, you take Usher over Breezy.

[B]

I take Usher as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Wait, 20, 20, 40 I would take. The problem is 20 is still.

[F]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If so that doesn't make sense. If you said if you goes 40, you got breez Breezy winning in the long haul.

[B]

He has more songs.

[D]

He. He has more songs. But if you take the two normal force, normal format 20, verse 20.

[F]

What are you putting against Burns?

[D]

That's a few songs I think I should got. That would go against Burn.

[F]

No Chris Brown.

[A]

No Chris Brown.

[D]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[A]

Burns.

[D]

You say residuals?

[A]

I didn't say anything.

[F]

Oh, wait. Mindset.

[D]

Residuals. Oh, that's what you would do?

[A]

Oh, you lose bad. Residuals. What would you.

[F]

What would go against Burn or. Or Burn?

[D]

You know, let it burn. I'm sorry, that's throwing me off. Okay.

[A]

For me, I think there's five Usher records that Chris would have to concede to. Which one is Burn?

[F]

Is Burn one of them?

[D]

Yeah, let it burn is one of them. For sure. You got it Bad is probably one of them.

[A]

You got it Bad is one. Nice and slow.

[F]

Oh, yes.

[D]

You make me wanna. Or do you think that's compatible?

[A]

That's beatable.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Confessions.

[B]

You remind me.

[E]

You.

[A]

Oh yeah, I think that's beatable.

[B]

Usher's got some big.

[A]

You don't have to call.

[D]

You don't have to call some shit. Usher. That's what Usher's a tough out for anybody.

[C]

Usher's not seeing Chris Brown. No verses.

[A]

Wait.

[D]

Bro.

[A]

Back is a tough one two to be. I got to see something real quick. I would like to see that on the tour though. Like them have that kind of back and forth battle like that versus kind of just playful with it. That would be dope.

[D]

I think. Yeah.

[B]

I love Chris, bro. He Usher's big records are too big.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. But I think the distance has to go to Chris.

[D]

Yeah, but I think the distance is more than 20. That's what I'm saying. On a normal versus when you go in 20. I think ushers is a tough out. If it went 30. I think Chris.

[A]

I think Chris could be be usher 11. 9.

[B]

No, I don't see it.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

I think he respectfully sorry.

[D]

I don't see it.

[A]

Chris got and granted. Remember we talking about. I think Chris Brown has a deeper discography definitely of his own and I think his feature writer discography is. I think that packs our out. I do.

[D]

It's container.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[F]

Chris got running yo. Say goodbye with you forever kiss.

[E]

After usher gets the 12 songs, he's going to get drowned.

[F]

Look at me now. Loyal new flame no guidance go crazy.

[E]

Go to the features. He's going to drown him. He's going to drown them, bro.

[D]

12 is.

[F]

I know Usher got nice and slow. You remind me you got a bad year but burn Confessions, my boo. Loving the club. Oh, my God.

[A]

See all that is beatable to me.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Usher got three or four songs that are not beatable. The rest of that can be beat.

[A]

I don't know, man.

[F]

You got tough.

[E]

He don't have confessions.

[F]

Confessions, part two. Being beatable, Joe. No.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't. I don't have confessions. Being beatable. Really keep going though.

[B]

Usher has 16 top top 40 top 10 records alone.

[E]

But listen, so what's his top top 10 and out of those top 10 songs, some of those songs are beatable.

[D]

I think that's true. I think some of them are.

[A]

You remind me is beatable. My way is beatable. My boo is beatable.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Seduction is beatable.

[D]

But just because they beatable don't mean

[B]

they're gonna get beat.

[D]

Some of them gonna win.

[A]

Moving mountains is beatable. Yeah. Oh, yes. Good, good. Kisser is beatable. Like he got mad beatable record.

[E]

Got 700 songs to play with to beat you.

[B]

But they're not near as big records.

[F]

No, Paul, stand on it.

[B]

Big records win versus. I'm sorry.

[A]

Like.

[E]

All right, so real quick, I just

[A]

named 16, my boo. He's got 16 my top 10 hits. My boo. Verse. Back to sleep. Who gets it? Oh, my boo.

[D]

My boo. My boo.

[A]

See, I don't think that at all.

[G]

All.

[A]

See, I don't think that at all.

[B]

See, you guys are speaking. I love Chris Brown, but you're speaking as super, super hardcore Chris Brown.

[F]

You got my.

[D]

You got my.

[A]

You playing that at.

[B]

It's not even close.

[A]

I hate that record.

[E]

Listen, I hate it too, but it's.

[D]

I love that record. But I like that record.

[E]

Put you back to sleep. Might not beat it. He got something in his catalog that

[D]

can beat it, but just go.

[F]

Give us. Give us another one. Joe. Off the head.

[A]

Yo, yo was a good one. What are we talking about?

[F]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Yo is a hard ass.

[F]

Yo was hard.

[C]

Oh. Oh.

[A]

A million times over, my boo.

[D]

Nice and slow. You think?

[E]

Nice and slow.

[F]

Yo, that's blues.

[D]

Yeah. Say nice and slow.

[F]

Beating nice and slow. Nice and slow is beating, yo.

[D]

Nice and slow is beating, yo.

[F]

Are you crazy?

[A]

Nice and slow is beating, Yo. Nice and slow beats whatever. Call me.

[E]

Us.

[A]

My boo should not be in the same sentences. Excuse me, yo, but they're not.

[F]

They're not.

[D]

They won't. I'm dropping my boo against. What did you say it was? The Chris Brown song.

[A]

Yo, back to sleep.

[D]

No, Back to sleep. Back to sleep. That's what I'm saying. And then we had. We had the other joint against that. And I'm saying he wins that one, too.

[A]

I got Chris Brown in the distance. I don't think we got Chris Brown in the distance. I don't think we'll ever see this. I don't think we'll ever see it on the tour.

[D]

You see flashes of it.

[A]

Yo, and I'll tell you one thing. Sometimes we don't need to see it. When we go to the show and come back, word. We'll have a clear understanding.

[D]

Yeah, but that's gonna be 30 or 40. It's three hours of song.

[F]

What would you put against Usher's.

[D]

Yeah, that's another. Yeah's a tough fucking out.

[F]

It is.

[E]

Yeah's a tough out. But he got songs that could beat it. Yo.

[F]

He got a song could beat.

[E]

Yeah, he got songs.

[A]

That monster. I think. Yeah, it's beatable.

[D]

I think y' all are the world's biggest Chris Brown fans.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

As somebody who. I'm a bigger Usher fan than Chris Brown fan. But, like, there's songs that Chris Brown got that knock because you fuck with Chris Brown and. Cause they're great. Songs. Songs. But Usher got records that are just so big, I don't think I. I

[E]

think they don't got 20 of them, bro.

[B]

He has a lot of them.

[D]

Let's say he got 12. That's all you need to win the verse, so.

[F]

So beat up.

[B]

I sure got, like, 10. Respectfully,

[F]

what category. What category of the hits and bangers would you put Usher and Chris Brown?

[A]

That's a good question now, because I

[E]

had to oppose that question.

[A]

Like, the difference between hits and a banger.

[F]

So which one would you put?

[A]

I think, like, back to sleep is

[E]

like a banger Banger.

[A]

That's not a hit.

[F]

Got it?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all I'm saying.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

Bangers win rounds, though.

[A]

All right, so if you do.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And Chris Brown does. No guidance who wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Never mind.

[D]

Kiss.

[E]

Kiss.

[A]

I'm out of here.

[D]

He got songs.

[E]

He can play a lot of songs.

[A]

I don't know what conversation they have with y'.

[F]

All.

[A]

I don't know what talk I'm having.

[D]

I think you a big Chris Brown fan.

[A]

Not at all. Not at all. I ain't that big of a Chris Brown bear. I just like. I just like music at some point. Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

It was huge.

[A]

Monster record.

[B]

It still gets played in sinks and movies and all that.

[A]

Still.

[E]

He got a lot. He got too many songs.

[A]

I don't see it. Okay.

[E]

Yeah. Chris got them bangers again. Like, I think. I think year and Kiss. Kiss is a fight. Okay.

[F]

He might get tight, y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

I don't think.

[D]

I don't think it's a crazy take, but I think it's wrong, y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I think it's the opposite. I think Chris Brown.

[A]

Kiss. Kiss. I don't with kisses.

[E]

Yo, dog, that song was a. A monster song saying that. I'm saying I think it's a fight, depending on who you asking. You was outside for year.

[A]

Everybody double my last question. My last question to y', all, and I promise I'm done. E, can you handle it? Versus take you to down. Take you down.

[F]

Take you, take you down.

[A]

Take you down for sure. Take you down.

[B]

I got to hear.

[D]

Yeah, let me hear. Take you down. That's a banger.

[F]

Can you handle it, though? Handle it.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

Ah, this is a fire record. This is that.

[B]

I'm not saying Chris Brown ain't dope.

[A]

This is a banger.

[B]

Y' all are confused about what verses look like.

[D]

Exactly.

[F]

So so now you Nothing.

[A]

Don't play this. I just want him hit the note.

[B]

This ain't coming on no verses.

[D]

It's not. Put this up against that. But yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

It's a great song.

[F]

Instead of doing that, do you got

[A]

a bad verse to take you down?

[F]

This right here.

[A]

You make a baby off this record.

[E]

That little bald head girl goes crazy on this song.

[A]

You think you got a bad beat this. I'm still mad. Y' all niggas told me my boo is going play my boo real quick.

[D]

It's called N play.

[F]

You got a bad versus. I know what my boo. There's always that one. But my boo was fire. I was always super fire. And it's a huge.

[A]

That's just annoying record now. It's a big record, but.

[F]

I heard it too much.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Come on. That ain't even a record. This record.

[D]

What did he put. What was he putting it up against?

[A]

Yo, yo, we in my phone against yo.

[D]

That's not. He did a switch. We didn't put it up against yo at first. We put it up.

[A]

It was back to sleep.

[D]

It was back to sleep.

[A]

Joe Bug about to call Chris Brown.

[F]

Why would you put y. Yeah, he

[D]

trying to set us up.

[E]

Yo.

[A]

Yo, your. My Serato just up. Oh, y' all lucky.

[E]

Park's there.

[D]

Serato got.

[E]

Grab your phone. You want be.

[B]

I'll grab my phone. We can play these records back to back all you want.

[A]

Oh, Park. Yo, do me a favor. Don't never say my boo again. Don't say nothing about my boo again.

[F]

You think my movie.

[A]

I don't think so. You gotta be a Christmas Brown fan to love this record.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Great record.

[D]

It's a great record. It ain't beating my boo.

[F]

Y' all got a recent bias.

[A]

It sound like. It sound like y' all just picking the bigger record. That's what versus. That's what happened.

[D]

Have you ever seen a versus?

[A]

Yeah, I've seen a versus, and it don't go like that. It don't go the biggest record win, wipe the floor with Bobby Brown and every one of his big records. It don't just go big record.

[D]

I agree that it don't always go just like big whatever record charter hire,

[B]

but that you're also comparing a situation where performance mattered.

[D]

I was about to say, but you look at Silver Four. Exactly.

[C]

Yeah, but he can't.

[F]

How many take records. How many Tank records beat Tyrese Big records Do he.

[C]

He can't outperform Chris Brown. So it's like, if y'. All the verse is true, it's True about the bigger songs, but the fact.

[B]

Because he ain't flipping. Would you sing his ass off?

[A]

He can't. And he is flipping. Yeah, Skating, tripping. Usher's flipping.

[C]

The eight foot. He flipped skates, danced his ass off. I don't give a.

[A]

Usher flipped in skates. But. But Chris Brown did the flip and landed on. On the one.

[F]

What was the.

[A]

Y' all know to flip it.

[B]

Yeah, I should have flipped it.

[E]

Later, dog.

[D]

And Usher Brown on stage.

[A]

Yeah, but Usher dated Chili out of here.

[F]

You only say that now.

[A]

Usher dated maga. Maga.

[F]

Chili.

[C]

He knew. Point.

[A]

Point to Chris.

[F]

No.

[A]

You know. You know Chris dated some maga too. All them little Spanish. You can't even get

[D]

test.

[F]

They come out of truckload.

[A]

He be all the way in the

[G]

back of the line.

[F]

Like, who the is that to get

[C]

in a section with him?

[A]

We going to see Rick Ross come out for new flame.

[C]

Chris don't want nothing.

[A]

Him in the section anytime. He at the club in London, he

[C]

get to pull his pants like this. Darker than my cab. Get her out of here, Blackie.

[E]

No.

[F]

Caramel.

[C]

Light caramel. Get her black ass out of here.

[A]

All right, we're moving right. Moving right along. Do we have anything else that needs a Our attention? I don't think anything ever needs our attention.

[B]

That needs our attention.

[A]

I think we did it.

[F]

Parks is lit today.

[A]

You good? Let me just check my list.

[F]

Friday. Parks is good.

[A]

Let me check my list.

[C]

It's not Friday.

[D]

Your pulse.

[C]

It's not his p. It's that moistenite chain that got on.

[B]

He's with you on the.

[A]

On the not.

[F]

And you got your teeth white. And you up to something box.

[A]

You ugly.

[F]

You got. He got his teeth white. I don't give a. He smokes. He got his teeth white. His teeth got white.

[C]

Chill out.

[F]

You see yellow and white like that.

[C]

Stop.

[D]

Before.

[A]

Before we end. I do have. And now I'm finding Chris Brown song to end with too. You made me mad. I do. I do.

[F]

Have to put yo against my boo. He burn.

[D]

I hate.

[A]

I hated my boot when it was out.

[C]

Me too.

[F]

I hated.

[A]

I hated my boo as it was sore. I hate that when it came out.

[F]

You hated it.

[D]

They got gay.

[A]

When that song came out, I thought she was pulling a move.

[C]

But I love the video. But I hated the song always. I don't know. I just hated it.

[D]

I never liked it.

[C]

I never liked that song.

[A]

It got too hot.

[C]

I'm a way bigger Chris Brown song fan than Usher.

[F]

How many songs I'm a Way bigger fan. How many songs I didn't really with

[C]

Usher lock until moving my how many

[F]

songs that wow became so popular that it ended up being hated.

[A]

A lot of songs like that I like I hate the tim song song wait for you like me and you I can't hate. How could you hate that?

[C]

I can't hate that.

[A]

It's too popular.

[C]

I know you talking about but I can't hate that. You know what I mean? I know what you're talking about.

[F]

You know what I mean.

[E]

Like when a song gets too hot,

[A]

it's like, all right, here we go again.

[C]

Future did it. If you boy you is agree. He hates it too.

[E]

No, I like that song.

[D]

I mean, I don't. I don't.

[C]

I get what you're saying. When they get overplayed and get too crazy, you get corny. But some of them is just like it never dies. Like hit me baby one more time. Time.

[D]

That's a class.

[B]

At some point.

[C]

You see what I'm saying?

[B]

At some point, the played out song becomes a classic song. You can't deny it.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Let's go, Paul.

[C]

But some you just hate from the

[A]

first time you hear for sure. Well, it's too cheesy. A little bit like it's.

[C]

I just. I hated my. I like it and I've never heard nobody say that but. But him I never. People always disagree with me about that. I hated that.

[D]

What, my boo?

[C]

Yeah. I hated my boo.

[A]

Absolutely.

[C]

You the only I ever heard say that other than me.

[A]

It'll be dope. We have weird Usher brings out Jadakiss and they could do and he better not play. You make me want it neither. Chris brown gonna eat that right up too.

[C]

He is.

[A]

He better not play nothing that ain't his best.

[F]

You make me want a minute. Don't stop it, Joe. I love don't stop it.

[B]

You just fall.

[E]

I love that song.

[B]

You just talking.

[A]

It's beatable. You make me want that song is very beatable. What are y'.

[D]

All. It ain't an easy album.

[A]

Oh, my God. I'm done with y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

Y' all glad. You make me want to leave the one on with yes, that one. That one. You say it'll be okay Suggest little nice things I should do Go home and I lay my head down All I want to think about is you see and that right there is why Usher would lose the verses. Usher got too Usher got too many songs where he begging for the and didn't get it. Every song, every last. He the Whole crew he the squad and stalkers and Karuchi Get Chris the new and stalk his ex Stop playing with Chris Remember that Stepping to the

[F]

on the curb he was doing whatever

[C]

he wanted that time gangster yes, he was.

[A]

Yo, I hate y' all turned his old blood heat is fire yeah he

[C]

he's yeah I love Chris does not

[E]

I don't give a Yo, this

[A]

Listen, man, this was a good show.

[B]

It was.

[E]

This ate the charts up.

[A]

Two of the greatest R and B

[E]

artists of all time, for sure.

[A]

Chris Brown, early Bobby Brown in that.

[C]

Nobody compares Usher to Michael Jackson.

[A]

What's up that face

[D]

I'm befuddled and bewildered.

[A]

Chris I'm wishing that it was your hand Toxic sister. And if I could standing I would get out of here park nobody could fancy yeah fuck out of here park

[D]

Strategize

[F]

out of here folks got to

[A]

find a record let's find a record

[F]

Let try to strategize Strategize.

[D]

Up out of here what is y' all talking about?

[A]

Easily.

[D]

Should we eat this song?

[A]

This is just an outro song, Mark

[D]

don't do it for you Too much joy in your face

[A]

that you know Listen, this has been a great show. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this. Holly ain't it she ain't no, she ain't toxic. Y' all better stop playing around, yo. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows it's it's going on in my head. Until next time, we bid you a due farewell. Adio. Cereva Diri Hasta la vista. Ar Vois so long goodbye or simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all. Whoa, whoa, hey,

[B]

hey.

[F]

Give me you alone.

[A]

What y' all doing this week?

[D]

What y' all doing this weekend?

[A]

What are y' all doing?

[F]

Happy birthday, Michael.

[A]

Nigga, what are y' all on this weekend? Anybody just work. Work for ish. Mark, what you doing this weekend?

[D]

Doing some birthday stuff with the boy.

[A]

All right. All right.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Tomorrow, tonight. Michael Paul's birthday. Michael Paul's birthday.

[F]

Happy birthday, baby boy.

[A]

Happy birthday, Michael Paul. Mona, what you want?

[C]

I'm getting ready for my upcoming Atlanta, Atlantic City and Atlanta shows.

[A]

Hey, vdot, what you on? What you on this weekend? Being a good dad, man. Hey,

[F]

Flip, I'm outside working, man.

[A]

All right? He's working parks. Barks.

[B]

Barks Supposed to be nice out right? Yeah, I might be outside.

[A]

Hey, the only that the flow. Look, look, look.

[F]

He the only.

[B]

He the only.

[F]

Build the house, you have fun.

[A]

Come house. That's his line to be outside for the weekend. I'm working.

[F]

He texting now. Yo, honey, yo, remember I you told you I gotta fix the house. Now you coming to my crib, come see me? I gotta talk to you.

[A]

Anyway, y' all hold it down, man. Till next time. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. Oh, before I go, yo. Memory of a killer Chef's Kiss season finale. Great job. Great job on that. Finish the show if you haven't seen it. Until next time. Now, lovers and friends might be tough. No, he gonna need to really hit him. For love.

[F]

For love.