Episode 922 | "Vanilla Ice"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 922 | "Vanilla Ice"

April 22, 2026 | Joe Budden, Queens Flip, Dr. Marc Lamont Hill, Big Freeze Ice, Big Parks, Corey, Paul, Vlad, and guests

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast is a vibrant, sprawling conversation amongst Joe Budden and his eclectic crew, punctuated by jokes, cultural debates, stories from their lives, and music industry insights. The primary thread is music commentary, especially surrounding upcoming releases, but it veers hilariously into everything from dental care to sexuality, OnlyFans economy, social media dramas, family dynamics, and the dynamics of viral internet culture. True to the episode’s name, “Vanilla Ice,” the crew spends considerable time riffing on the Drake album rollout and hip hop nostalgia, highlighting the connective tissue of rap, fandom, and internet humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fit Checks, WrestleMania, and Opening Banter

• Timestamps: [00:33]–[03:57]
  • Joe laments that his “fit checks” are giving clout away for free and jokes about needing payment:

    “Now I think are getting checks. I need that. I can’t just be on camera for free telling them what I’m wearing, moaning and hustled in some.” ([00:35], Joe Budden)

  • Group jests about not going to WrestleMania despite being fans, emphasizing family over events.
  • Playful argument over who gets calls about whom, who really does the work, and competitive roasting amongst cast members.

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2. Hip-Hop Nostalgia: Vanilla Ice & Hammer

• Timestamps: [05:02]–[07:58]
  • Crew riffs on Vanilla Ice and “Ice Ice Baby,” debating who knows the lyrics and poking fun at generational gaps.
  • Discussion of Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer’s sales legacy, and what albums defined early rap superstardom.

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3. Drake’s "Iceman" Album Rollout: Analysis & Anticipation

• Timestamps: [14:18]–[38:38]
  • In-depth breakdown of Drake’s mysterious icy album promo in Toronto—blocks of ice supposedly concealing the release date.
  • Theories on release timing (Memorial Day? Sooner?), the marketing creativity, and will Drake drop with or without a single.
  • Reflects on Drake’s need (or not) for a lead single given his star power:

    “Drake don’t need… Not after what happened.” ([24:30], Queens Flip)

  • Debates about Drake's musical direction—do fans want "reflection," "struggle," or just "bangers"?
  • Speculation on features: Will Future, Young Thug, 21 Savage, or Wayne be on the project? (General consensus: very likely for some, mixed doubt on others.)
  • Deeper point about Drake’s pressure to deliver after public beefs:

    “I think he feels like this is a high-stakes album.” ([28:01], Big Freeze Ice)

  • Skepticism and anticipation about whether the new album will meet sky-high expectations:

    “I will be disappointed if whatever we hear sounds like something we heard because he’s, he’s in a space. I’m assuming he’s in a space. He done went through some he ain’t never went through before.” ([26:50], Joe Budden)

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4. Music Releases & Summer Banger Drought

• Timestamps: [33:07]–[38:38]
  • Awaiting big drop(s): Kehlani’s upcoming album gets praise for its features and strong early feedback.
  • Discussion of the lack of “bangers” in 2026 so far. Crew is hoping for new summer anthems—specifically mentioning waiting on Drake to deliver.
  • Quick notes on Mary J. Blige’s new interview and reflections on legacy.

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5. Mary J. Blige’s Burger King Controversy: Artist Legacy, Cultural Stereotypes

• Timestamps: [62:31]–[80:27]
  • Clip of Mary J. Blige explaining how the infamous Burger King commercial hurt her, expressing she’ll “never laugh at that.”
  • The group reflects on the impact of “bad” artist endorsements and viral moments, comparing the Burger King incident to other awkward celebrity ads.
  • Broader context of how Black artists are treated when they make commercial missteps—Mary’s case becomes a discussion on accountability, fandom, and racial critique in advertising.
  • Mary’s pain over the incident resonates:

    “My true, honest to true fans did not think that was funny. Yeah, the whole way that went down was wrong.” ([62:55], Mary J. Blige)

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6. Sex, OnlyFans Economy & Porn Industry Debates

• Timestamps: [68:41]–[77:59]
  • Lively, explicit debate about OnlyFans, the changing landscape of adult content, and why people are (or aren’t) willing to pay for porn in 2026.
  • Some hosts admit to spending for exclusive content; others roast them for being “vanilla” or for overpaying.
  • Joe and Parks joke about the frustration of tricked purchases, “throbbing” robot messages, and models hustling subscribers:

    “They try to bundle the videos together…All right, for all you hot and heavy feet guys out there…here’s a joi of my feet jerking you.” ([71:05], Corey)

  • Broader point: Realities of digital sex work and consumers' shifting expectations about access, fandom, and exclusivity.

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7. Social Media and Celebrity Relationships

• Timestamps: [84:03]–[90:48]
  • Conversation about people’s reactions to Tatiana Ali’s husband, the public’s expectations of celebrity partners, and how social media can turn admiration into hate.
  • Reflects on how women’s real choices break the illusion for men and the hypocrisy of who gets called “Black excellence” (nod to R. Kelly debate).
  • Takeaway: Keep certain thoughts in the group chat, not on social, or risk being a public clown.

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8. Parenting, Double Standards, and Prom Night Debates

• Timestamps: [103:03]–[115:04]
  • The crew explores the unspoken double standards for sons vs. daughters, specifically whether parents should get their kids a hotel room on prom night.
  • Emotional, honest chat about wanting to “protect” daughters and struggling to accept their independence and sexuality.
  • General consensus: Most fathers don’t even want to think about their daughters’ sex lives, much less facilitate them.

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9. Men's Friendships & Social Traditions

• Timestamps: [48:14]–[51:22]
  • Running joke: Is it “gay” for a group of men to go to the movies together, or does it become “manly” if there’s enough of the group?
  • Hilarious, self-aware critique of how men police each others’ behavior, blending homophobia with genuine camaraderie.

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10. Music Business: Boosie vs. Vlad TV Interview Pay Dispute

• Timestamps: [178:14]–[196:05]
  • A business transparency debate: Vlad defends why he wouldn't meet Boosie's higher pay demand for interviews, citing declining views and diminishing profits; Boosie argues for his rightful value.
  • The panel jokes about the economics of YouTube, viral traffic, and whether Vlad is being fully honest about his margins.
  • Point: Creators set their worth, but platforms only pay what makes sense to them.

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11. Social Media Violence & Bystander Culture

• Timestamps: [149:39]–[155:34]
  • Discusses the recent violent fight in London, where bystanders filmed rather than breaking up a brawl that led to tragedy.
  • Reflects on how “content culture” now enables more violence to go unchecked as everyone pulls out a phone.
  • "Dudes be having their phones out…" ([154:02], Paul)

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12. Death Penalty, Justice, and Cultural Hypocrisy

• Timestamps: [170:16]–[175:02]
  • Extended, nuanced exchange about the morality and practicality of the death penalty in America.
  • Some hosts argue for its necessity in irredeemable cases; others point to wrongful convictions and state hypocrisy.

  • “We get it wrong a lot. If I could tell y’ all that we got it right 98% of the time…that would still mean that two out of every hundred people is getting killed wrongfully.” ([173:38], Big Freeze Ice)

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13. Sports: NBA and NFL News

• Timestamps: [158:02]–[164:15]
  • Shout-out to Victor Wembanyama for his Defensive Player of the Year win.
  • NFL draft speculation; Giants and Bengals trade, what teams need, and player priorities.
  • Steve Kerr’s likely departure from the Warriors and where he ranks among all-time great coaches.

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14. WrestleMania 2026 Recap

• Timestamps: [198:18]–[200:16]
  • Queens Flip summarizes the highlights, praises wrestlers, notes controversial booking (champion Jade entering first), broaches Brock Lesnar’s apparent real retirement.
  • Crew lauds Flip’s wrestling commentary, suggesting he deserves more spotlight in the industry.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Parenting Double Standards:

  “My son could do a thousand more shit than my daughter can do. I don’t give a fuck, period. Nigga, my daughter’s my princess. That’s my heart. I want her to be pure…” ([103:31], Queens Flip)

• On OnlyFans/Porn Economics:

  "They try to bundle the videos together…They repackage, re-rock…try to trick you into just buying multiple times." ([70:52], Corey)

• On Drake’s Iceman Album:

  “I will be disappointed if whatever we hear sounds like something we heard…” ([26:50], Joe Budden)
  “I think he feels like this is a high-stakes album. So I think you can’t put out a stinker right now…” ([28:01], Big Freeze Ice)

• On Mary J. Blige & Stereotypes:

  “I would never laugh at that because my… true fans did not think that was funny. Yeah, the whole way that went down was wrong” ([62:55], Mary J. Blige)

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Important Timestamps At-A-Glance

• [14:18]–[38:38]: Drake's Album Rollout Breakdown
• [62:31]–[80:27]: Mary J. Blige's Burger King Controversy
• [70:00]–[77:59]: OnlyFans and Porn Debate
• [103:03]–[115:04]: Double Standard & Parenting Real-Talk
• [149:39]–[155:34]: Social Media, Violence & Bystanders
• [170:16]–[175:02]: Death Penalty Debate
• [178:14]–[196:05]: Boosie vs. Vlad Interview Money Dispute

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Tone & Flow

The episode is trademark Joe Budden Podcast: irreverent, honest, self-deprecating, packed with inside jokes and vulnerable admissions, but always sharp on music, culture, and Black community commentary. Jokes blend with real talk about social issues, industry dynamics, and the evolving landscape of online culture. The tone vacillates—sometimes ridiculous and wild, sometimes brilliant and poignant, giving listeners a feeling of being inside a friend group’s wild, uncensored living room discussion.

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Summary Takeaway

Episode 922 “Vanilla Ice” is a dynamic, wildly entertaining snapshot of Black masculinity, fandom, and internet era hip hop commentary. The crew mixes nostalgia, cultural critique, and their trademark playful squabbling for an episode that oscillates between light-hearted roasting and deep, relevant social discourse, all mirroring the unpredictable—and very online—world of 2026.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Looks like I've done my last fit check for Mona.

[Big Parks]

Why? What happened?

[Joe Button]

Open my phone. I see ice on this page with some fancy fit check design. Now I think are getting checks. I need that. I can't just be on camera for free telling them what I'm wearing, moaning and hustled in some. She didn't call Karen civil. Let's see what's on. Going. Going on now to get coin. All right, forget it. How. Come on.

[Corey]

Y, Y, Y. What's popping?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's popping?

[Joe Button]

What's popping?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's up?

[Corey]

What's popping, though?

[Queens Flip]

What's up? What's up? What's up? We in the peace.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Peace, peace, peace.

[Joe Button]

What's good? How y' all feeling, man?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Feeling great, man. Feeling good.

[Joe Button]

Good. Absolutely love that. Absolutely love that.

[Queens Flip]

What's up, man? Hey, no subliminals today.

[Vlad]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

The king is here. None of that little girl y' all was doing when I wasn't here. It's not gonna go down. I'm talking to anybody that it applies to. Wear it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that ain't me.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Fresh in WrestleMania, huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He cleaned it up.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I am.

[Queens Flip]

I am. What that means? You trying to. You trying to imply I'm putting on a performance?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes.

[Queens Flip]

Anybody? None of that girl B shit going on while I'm here? While I'm sitting right here, Nigga, it's Queens.

[Joe Button]

All right, but the whole room feel like your rant don't apply to us.

[Queens Flip]

All right? So it applies to the.

[Big Parks]

Let it fly.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I respect. Over there somewhere.

[Queens Flip]

What's up, y'? All? Y' all good?

[Corey]

Come on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been.

[Joe Button]

I'm good.

[Queens Flip]

Me. I've been home, man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what's up.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You a go to Vegas?

[Queens Flip]

No, I didn't go to Vegas. I didn't have the time to go

[Paul]

to Vegas, but I had to crack on his pants.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

WrestleMania was in Vegas.

[Big Parks]

Those are Vegas pants.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You was trying to crack on his pants?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, these are. No, I didn't go. I didn't go. I didn't go to Vegas. I was at. I was at home. I did watch WrestleMania, though. Dope event.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I thought you'd have been out there. I know you're A big wrestling fan.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I am, I am, I am. But, you know, it was a good home. I wanted to be home with the family.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Suck your teeth. Get out the white house, boy.

[Paul]

So, you know, you don't want to

[Corey]

be home with your family.

[Queens Flip]

I love my family. That was nasty, right?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I think your rant applies to him now.

[Corey]

Yeah, it applies because you'll be throwing

[Queens Flip]

and try to remove yourself, Mr. Hide His Hand.

[Big Parks]

And that wasn't no be.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, that's that white man ever. Except for Parks. He black?

[Paul]

I don't know.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't say that. Yeah, I didn't say that. What y' all talking about?

[Paul]

I'm playing if I shoot the gun still right there.

[Queens Flip]

No, the gun don't be there. You shoot the gun, you hand it off to somebody else.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Freeze.

[Queens Flip]

Hottest me. Freeze.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Please.

[Paul]

He's gonna rat. I would never.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What?

[Queens Flip]

Out of here real quick. What you did this weekend, boy? You was at home as well.

[Corey]

Work.

[Queens Flip]

No, that work.

[Paul]

I work.

[Queens Flip]

What does work entail?

[Paul]

What did you do working on two apartments?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I work.

[Queens Flip]

Nigga, you went there. You did the physical label yourself.

[Corey]

You do anything else besides work?

[Joe Button]

Nah. Right?

[Queens Flip]

Very selfish.

[Corey]

You don't make me start with you. I went home after the last part like, you know what? Ish was a good sport. These last four, he did.

[Big Parks]

He did great.

[Joe Button]

I'm a lay off him a little bit. But then he come in and do this shit and I gotta fire this. You only work, right?

[Paul]

That's all I did.

[Queens Flip]

My total thing is the opposite.

[Paul]

Why you mad that I work?

[Joe Button]

Because I get calls about you that

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you don't say you don't senior man.

[Queens Flip]

You don't get calls about you.

[Paul]

You don't either.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to center you.

[Corey]

I promise you.

[Joe Button]

I get caught. I promise. Yeah, let's move it, everybody.

[Queens Flip]

He's on the opposite.

[Corey]

When it's do good idea, boy.

[Queens Flip]

I come in here with the mind frame of how I can on him.

[Joe Button]

Yo, let's move it off for me.

[Corey]

Hey, he got out of that.

[Queens Flip]

When you do good, I want to on you.

[Paul]

Why?

[Queens Flip]

Cause I don't like you.

[Paul]

I don't like it when you do good. I want to congratulate you.

[Queens Flip]

Said Chicken nuggie and Queen. You know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You do.

[Paul]

That's when you're not doing good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying?

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's cool though, when someone's like, don't throw that away.

[Joe Button]

Sell it. I'm sorry, who are you talking to?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You must not know.

[Joe Button]

I Barely have enough energy to shower every day.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Like I'm hanging on by a thread. I'm not gonna set up a photo shoot for my blender so I can make $7.

[Joe Button]

Are you out of your mind?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Meet some maniac in a parking lot.

[Big Parks]

We have to be like, oh, does it look good?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it look good.

[Big Parks]

Oh, there's a little wear and te.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Like I'm throwing it away.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She right. Thousand percent right.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay, freeze.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Let's go. Y' all know what time it is?

[Big Parks]

This is Ice theme song.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I see little pins when this come on.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I used to love this, though.

[Corey]

The original Iceman. Let's go. I back with a brand new ignition Something got a hold of me tightly Daily and nightly Will it ever stop?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't know and I grow to the extreme I rock a mic like

[Corey]

a band, dude, light up the stage. Wait a minute.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Speak of that move. You don't know the drink, you don't know the joint.

[Paul]

I know the song. I don't know the lyrics to the song.

[Queens Flip]

I talk to your man, yo.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you wasn't outside.

[Queens Flip]

All these niggas know the lyrics.

[Corey]

They sold 90 million records.

[Big Parks]

I also don't know the verses.

[Paul]

Mash, you don't know him either.

[Big Parks]

Not like that. I look a little bit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You didn't know nothing.

[Corey]

He's 21 years old. That's true.

[Big Parks]

He's 21.

[Corey]

He got you about 25 years.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You would know that.

[Corey]

What were you listening to in 91? Big Daddy Kane, Jungle Brothers.

[Paul]

Big Daddy Kane, Tribe Called Quest.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, he's trying Fat Boys.

[Joe Button]

He don't know what.

[Paul]

None of these grand poa and shout to grand.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You had to get extra black with your rap to go against.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what I was listening to.

[Queens Flip]

That's who was popping.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was listening to Paris.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, he got

[Big Freeze Ice]

Paris, yo.

[Paul]

That's who was popping, stopping.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was listening to both I10 extremes on a lot of records.

[Paul]

That's the name of the album.

[Corey]

More than all them. He just named combined. Com.

[Queens Flip]

90 million.

[Corey]

For real.

[Paul]

He sold a lot.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think it was like 16 million, though.

[Paul]

Second biggest rap album of all time back then.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, wow.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't know.

[Paul]

Hammer, Hammer, Hammer. Don't hurt him For a long time.

[Joe Button]

Did you. Did you buy. Please, Hammer, don't hurt him.

[Paul]

I did not buy it, but.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah,

[Big Freeze Ice]

If it was a problem. Yo, I saw it.

[Corey]

Check out the hook while the DJ revolves. Let's go. Hey, Mike.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Jack.

[Joe Button]

Mike.

[Corey]

Shack. One, two, one, two. So happy y' all could be here with us today. Big Jersey. Big Jersey. What up, what up, what up?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He wasn't outside.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He wasn't outside.

[Joe Button]

He definitely. He definitely wasn't outside. Yeah. No, he wasn't outside at all. Do that over.

[Corey]

I like ice cream. Vanilla ice,

[Queens Flip]

Nothing.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Over. Let's go.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, boss.

[Corey]

Yo, I hate y' all nigg. You heard this, right?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. Thank God.

[Corey]

No, he gonna wrap the vanilla part. All the vanillas. Vanilla bean.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Seafood.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They trying to play. They trying to play.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yo.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Queens Flip]

We got him.

[Paul]

Later.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Hilarious.

[Corey]

That been on my mind all week.

[Vlad]

But.

[Corey]

You want to do what you want to do.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes, sir.

[Corey]

Tell me.

[Queens Flip]

I know what my man is doing right now, y'.

[Corey]

All.

[Queens Flip]

You listen to jbp.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Ice in my muddy water. It just got so much harder.

[Corey]

Can't even see it straight.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

I can't even see it straight with me. How about shots Give a little? Cause niggas die a lot and lie a lot. But I'm the truth. That's right. I'm just living proof that you ain't gotta die. Girl, you right there. You look like you like this shit. How'd I know how? I me on some psychic shit. I could tell a lie if you're asking me my whereabouts. But I might talk that real if you ask me what I care about.

[Corey]

Rapping bitches, rapping bitches, bitches and rapping Rapping and bitches until all of it switches.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

I swear it's been two years since somebody asked me who I was. I'm the greatest man. I said that before I knew I was. Yes, sir, that's what's important. What really happened?

[Corey]

Hold DMV to North Carolina, South Carolina. When I'm back there from New Orleans

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

singing Walking Like a Man Bingo on the trigger I got money in my pocket.

[Corey]

I'm uptown nigga with fame. Everybody in Florida, Everybody on vacation right now. Everybody coming back from prom and all

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

that I was a cold dude. I'm getting back to my way. People always ask how I got my nice things. Take my crown to the grave. I'm on the grave. Greatest story ever told. Cause I'm down to spell Whatever. Lately I've been on a roll and I do it for the city.

[Corey]

All the entrepreneurs, everybody at work right now. The 9-5ers and all that.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Going for the city.

[Corey]

What a time, y'.

[Big Freeze Ice]

All.

[Queens Flip]

The legs are buttoning, huh?

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

All my exes live in Texas like I'm George Straight. Or they go to Georgia State where tuition is handled by some random that live in Atlanta that she only see when she feels obligated. Admitted it to me, But plated and we never talked too much after I blew up. Just only hello happy belated. And I think I texted and told her I faded and that's when she texted me and told me she prayed and then that when I text her and told her I love her. Then right after text her and told her I'm faded, she asked whatever I learned since getting richer, I learned working with the negative.

[Queens Flip]

What you laughing for?

[Corey]

I love when he tell us his conversations with these bitches. Look what she stopped to ask him. Get that bitch out the section so fast. Yo, has anything changed for you since you got richer?

[Big Parks]

He just.

[Corey]

He just talked away whoever make for better bitches.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

I learned Hennessy and enemies is one hell of a mixture. Even though it's fucked up, girl, I'm

[Queens Flip]

still fucking witches in the fall.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Time for me to revisit the past as women that called us out.

[Corey]

We got a great show lined up for you. Shout out to the patronies. The patronies. Shout out to all the subgroups out

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

there about my dressing room, Confusing me with questions just like, do you love this?

[Corey]

Yeah. Thank you. Get out of. Get out of there.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Do you ever get nervous? Are you single? I heard you, you, your girl.

[Queens Flip]

Is it true?

[Paul]

You getting money? You think the

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

hell yeah.

[Joe Button]

Hell yeah.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Hell yeah. Fucking right. Fucking right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

All right.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

And we say, hell, yeah. Hell yeah.

[Joe Button]

Hell yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Fucking right.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Fucking right.

[Queens Flip]

All right.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

So much for being optimistic.

[Corey]

I'm ready to start.

[Joe Button]

But you can't cut it off no, you cannot.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Yes, I hold my breath till my face turn purple Keep a few bad bitches in my circle My nuts hang like ain't no curfew, bitch, if you wave then I will serve you.

[Mary J. Blige]

I do get.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

She grew commercial but we still met later that night. I was aggressive and she was sober. I gave her a pill. She started confessing and started undressing and asked me to hold her and so I did, but that was last month and now she's texting me. Acting for closure. Damn. She say this shit don't catch up to me. I keep pushing people. We eat each other whenever we at the dinner table she say she hate that she love me and she wish I was average Sometimes I wish the same.

[Corey]

All right, I'm ready to rock. Ready to rock.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Let's get to it.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

I hope I never break them. Met a female dragon, had a fire conversation Interviews are like confessions get the about my bedroom Confusing me with questions.

[Corey]

All right, what episode is this 922. Welcome to episode 922 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled By Power by Prize Picks, Prize Fix. Gang, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right, Queens get the money. Queens flip in the building. In the building next to him, Philly's finest, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. In the building next to him, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up King Wah Wah himself, our good brother issues in the building next to him, the freeziest of them all, Mr. Take it further himself, Big Freeze Ice is in the building next to him. Y' all seen that Risen premiere version versus the man who needs no introduction, Grammy nominated. Stop playing with him. Elmira's finest, Big Parks is in the building next to him. Come on, man. Big white pole in the building laying down these thick black broads. We not playing with them thick black bras. We laying them down. We see you in the hookah. Spot it right next to him. Come on, man. Welcome back.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Glowing, huh?

[Corey]

Come on, man. Man fresh back from St. Martin or St. Bart's one of the saints. One of the saints. East St. Laurent.

[Joe Button]

He came from.

[Corey]

Yes. Shout out to saint in the city. Our good brother Corey is back from

[Joe Button]

his lovey dovey dovey trip out there. Corey, it's good to see you, man.

[Big Parks]

Happy belated.

[Queens Flip]

He got a tan, y'.

[Big Freeze Ice]

All. Great.

[Joe Button]

You got a tan.

[Corey]

You're looking good.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

It's giving. No condom.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, yeah. He shot the club up.

[Joe Button]

It's giving. No condom out there.

[Big Parks]

Can't wear a condom in the club. Say anything.

[Queens Flip]

No condom at all.

[Corey]

I'm not. I'm not gonna focus on you, core,

[Joe Button]

but I did miss you. I only got one question, and then we'll take. Take it off you. How many times you said I love you out there?

[Corey]

That's all I want to know it.

[Joe Button]

That's all I want to know.

[Corey]

How many I love you.

[Joe Button]

She got.

[Corey]

She paid for the birthday trip. He was out there looking good.

[Queens Flip]

That's fire.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wow.

[Big Parks]

Couple dozen. Couple dozen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

One is a lot for Corey.

[Corey]

Nigga felt funny. He had to act like he was

[Joe Button]

talking to some of his jail homies.

[Corey]

I love you, yo.

[Big Parks]

Now you said. You said love,

[Corey]

love, yo, yo. Love, love, yo.

[Queens Flip]

I ain't going to lie, Cory, real quick.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Queens Flip]

My fourth year here is my first time. You like sitting laid back. Look at you. My usually over there working out, right?

[Corey]

Working out in the corner. One squat went out there.

[Joe Button]

Ain't even asked. Knock on my door, get some dick pills.

[Corey]

You went out there on the Natty Natural. Went out there on the Natty. That's how I know he in love. Oh, man. Savon and Tan are hereby remote. Big Ericson is always in the building. Right hand over there. Last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people

[Joe Button]

out there are here. How is everybody doing?

[Corey]

How are y' all feeling?

[Joe Button]

What's on your minds? Talk to me. Talk to me. Feeling great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Feeling good.

[Queens Flip]

Feeling good, man. Feeling good.

[Paul]

The world.

[Queens Flip]

The world is here, man. We just here.

[Joe Button]

Feeling good.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I got a crazy toothache. Other than that, I'm good, man. Y' all know a good black dentist?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. Yeah. Now you want black dentist?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Thank you.

[Queens Flip]

Ish. No, his people checked him. You know them over there.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Native.

[Queens Flip]

They say you've been saying a lot of white over there.

[Mary J. Blige]

There.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. Get to the black dentist. Yeah. You want one? He got one.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Perfect.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Look at his teeth.

[Queens Flip]

Look at.

[Corey]

Look at how that turned out.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, what the.

[Paul]

I A have 70 to pay for mine.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes, you do.

[Paul]

I don't. That's cool, though.

[Queens Flip]

You Got 70 To Pay for your.

[Corey]

A Black Dentist?

[Queens Flip]

70.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Your Dentist not black?

[Corey]

No. Hell no.

[Joe Button]

You fell for it. No, I've talked about my dentist all the time. I absolutely love her. She's a Russian lady. She's great. I'm not doing this again, but, yeah. No, she's not black.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Got you. Got you.

[Joe Button]

The black dentist. They be wanting to be stingy with the Nova cane.

[Corey]

They give you one little jup. If that ain't doing it, you just going to scream. The black dentist is going to find a way to hit that nerve that you sitting here avoiding you sitting there.

[Queens Flip]

They hit that.

[Corey]

Talking about. All right, just move.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

That is the scariest thing in the world in the dentist. In the dentist chair when you know you got a dentist. Dentist that's about to hit that. You ever had that nerve hit?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, my last dentist. That's why I've been going back.

[Paul]

No, a lot of them. You feel that? Yeah. They shoot you again, you won't feel you. You feel that?

[Queens Flip]

Yup.

[Paul]

OD on that Nova came for me. Then come in here, do whatever you gotta do.

[Big Parks]

But I just hate the sounds at the dentist.

[Paul]

I don't give a about it.

[Corey]

Don't even hurt, does Hepo

[Joe Button]

Hippo.

[Corey]

You don't bring headphones.

[Big Parks]

Never talk about that. Actually,

[Corey]

yes.

[Big Parks]

I tried to talk my way through the pain.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope.

[Corey]

Are crazy.

[Queens Flip]

I never thought about bringing headphones.

[Big Parks]

That's a good idea. I never thought about that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Absolutely. He bring headphones everywhere.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but that. That drill sound can't even penetrate freeze noggin.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, the louder over here.

[Big Parks]

Oh,

[Joe Button]

yo, that's crazy. Oh, hell no, man. The dentist. All right, come on, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's have some fun.

[Joe Button]

Let's have a good time. Let's go. Did I intro this?

[Queens Flip]

How was your weekend? Cause you doing that a lot. You be trying to get away. How was your weekend? Was alone, what you was doing?

[Joe Button]

My weekend was good. It was peaceful.

[Paul]

How did you spent?

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Queens Flip]

Did you go outside? Did you go to the game?

[Joe Button]

Like, what did you do? Did I go outside? You at the game?

[Big Parks]

You and Ian went to the game?

[Corey]

Oh, yeah, me and Ian went. We went to the game Saturday night to provide a little good lunch luck to the Knicks. Who won the game, of course.

[Big Parks]

So why didn't you go last night?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm about to say he was on the street.

[Joe Button]

Nah, man. I needed to be that game. I'm so glad I wasn't here, though.

[Corey]

That game won.

[Joe Button]

Vibe and energy in the Garden. It was absolutely nothing like it. Especially when you know your team's about to win. They were comfortably in control the whole time last night. The whole time.

[Big Parks]

Felt like they was comfortably in control

[Big Freeze Ice]

for a lot of that game.

[Paul]

Control to.

[Queens Flip]

Even in the end.

[Joe Button]

No, I feel like. Like they was about to blow it. But shout out to the Knicks, we'll go to Atlanta. Get, get done. Take care of business out there like all the rest of the New York did when they moved out there. Salute the. They talk about. You know what I mean? They keep thinking. Let me stop. Where do y' all want to start?

[Corey]

Come on, come on. Where do y' all want to start?

[Big Freeze Ice]

You know our start.

[Corey]

See the excitement all over Ish face. We tossing it again. We tossing it right to our man.

[Queens Flip]

Your man. It's cold outside, baby.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Getting ready.

[Corey]

You got the sledgehammer? You got your jackhammer ready?

[Queens Flip]

We going out there.

[Corey]

Flamethrower. You need lighter, something. Blow dryer.

[Queens Flip]

What's up?

[Big Parks]

Heating pad, something.

[Paul]

Picture that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He probably already knows.

[Big Parks]

Rock salt.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the date?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Just tell us. I know they told you.

[Paul]

Who's they?

[Big Parks]

Ovo.

[Paul]

Yo, get the fuck out my face.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You ain't see Drake's announcement?

[Paul]

I saw the bunch of ice cubes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's in a big cold ass room saying that the release date is in the ice is inside the ice.

[Paul]

Oh, I ain't. I saw.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought that shit was outside.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It is. What you Talking about.

[Queens Flip]

But he announced it. He announced. He told.

[Joe Button]

While ice just be in his car on AM radio.

[Paul]

I didn't eat a whole bunch of ice cubes outside. I didn't see him in no room. I think it's creative. It's cool.

[Corey]

We go down big dog. So Drake put a bunch of ice cubes in Toronto. It's a lot of them. Word is that the release date is

[Joe Button]

in there or under there or some. And I like it.

[Big Parks]

I think it's. I think it's creative. Creative. It's creative.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's different.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if I believe that the release date is hidden in there, but maybe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I think the release date might be on. Written on the ground or something. And when all that melt, you'll be able to see it from a aerial shot or some.

[Joe Button]

That's exactly why I wanted to fly over that. Put palm olive oil over that ice. Just wash the date away. Just sitting there looking stupid for nothing.

[Corey]

That's just funny. I would do it too if somebody put a block. And I had all these ideas before

[Joe Button]

the Toronto went over there. But I'm like, yo, somebody's gonna come over there, heat up some rock. Yeah. No, no.

[Corey]

Which is part of the reason why

[Joe Button]

I do like it.

[Paul]

Drake dropping Friday.

[Joe Button]

You think so? That ice ain't gonna be done by Friday.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He ain't dropping Friday.

[Big Parks]

It's a little colder.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got. You got. You got the hype for this up too. I think they'll have that Drake will

[Paul]

around and have pay some out there with some torture and make it seem like it was some fanfare. That shit getting melted.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

He don't have to pay the win.

[Paul]

I'm just giving you an example.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, look, them fans was a little off.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hope it's not this Friday. Cause I don't want nobody stepping on Kehlani's this Friday. Right?

[Queens Flip]

No, no.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not saying he got a winner, Kehlani. I'm saying for me as a man,

[Corey]

why you such a nigga?

[Big Freeze Ice]

You done played 18 versions of folded up here.

[Corey]

I don't know when the down. When our album dropped, though.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm sorry.

[Corey]

When I see it in my phone, I'll figure it out. I don't think that. That. That. I don't think that album is coming. But I'm totally wrong.

[Joe Button]

Cause I was saying that I don't think it'll be here this summer. I was absolutely wrong about that. They shooting videos. They blowing shit up in Toronto. He got ice over there. He done told all His Internet streamer. Loser niggas. That. Yo, get ready. It's coming. It's time. Now press the button or whatever the fuck he's saying.

[Corey]

So.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So what's your. What's your. What's your guess? Now, based on all the information, would you say two weeks, three weeks? I think in two weeks, Memorial Day week.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was just.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You took the words out of my mouth.

[Queens Flip]

It may take six to 10 days for that ice to melt completely. If. If he's the.

[Big Parks]

Get your science bag. Come on.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

At the temperature that Toronto is currently

[Big Freeze Ice]

at, it will take approximately ice freezes

[Joe Button]

at chill n. Look at you.

[Queens Flip]

No, I'm just saying.

[Corey]

Skip that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What. What temperature? I smell that.

[Queens Flip]

Say it again.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What temperature is ice melt? I don't know.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what temperature ice melts at. You know what I'm saying? But it may take six to 10 names for the icing milk. Keep it on that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Fine.

[Big Parks]

That's oddly specific.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what made me ask you that.

[Corey]

But, yeah, that's a good guess.

[Joe Button]

Whatever y' all say Memorial Day.

[Big Parks]

I think sooner.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I think sooner. I think two weeks. Two weeks.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I don't think he.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

With no single.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think. I don't think he needs one.

[Big Parks]

I don't think he needs one either.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Drake don't need.

[Queens Flip]

Not after what. What. What happened.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He need a single.

[Big Parks]

He don't really need a single.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

And he got a single. He shot a video for something. Oh. Over there. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think we got to get that first, though.

[Paul]

But why?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't.

[Paul]

Why don't. Why do you think you gotta do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just think, granted, yes, the album is going to do numbers. I think it need. He. They're planning for this to do astronomical numbers.

[Paul]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

It will.

[Paul]

So you think without the single it can't do that?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it can't. I just. I think this. This further secures it. That it's going to do astronomical numbers. Like, again, you've been throwing out a bunch of stuff. Shit ain't really been sticking. I don't think a surprise drop just with no prep for it, no single off of it or nothing. I don't think you go that route.

[Paul]

I think that's the route you definitely go. Because if you put the single out, you give the people an opportunity, whether bias or unbiased to on it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You know what I'm saying? So if niggas start shitting on it, Then they might have negative reviews on your project when it drops.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I think whatever he do, niggas gonna shit on regardless. It's gonna be half. It's gonna be a group that's gonna

[Paul]

get y' all the whole project to shit on.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's why I dropped.

[Joe Button]

You think whatever he do, they going to on it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hip hop has been divided since that beef. It don't matter what he put out. It's going to be a whole group that's going to hate it. And on it, it could be the best album ever. They will not admit it.

[Paul]

Some going to on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They're going to on it just because it's him.

[Queens Flip]

Do you think on the album he's going to say why he named the Iceman? Do we know why he named.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he'll get into all of that.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he's going to be very deliberate on this album.

[Big Parks]

I think so too.

[Mary J. Blige]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm trying to not get caught up in guessing release dates or expectations on the music or I'm just let him do whatever he doing when it comes. I'll listen to it and, and give some thoughts. But until then, I'm not, I'm not going crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you just had to gauge, like,

[Paul]

just a gauge 1, 1 to 10.

[Joe Button]

You think the 1 to 10 would be what? Oh, I have no idea. I wouldn't even play myself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't do that.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it's super hard to say, really. Super hard to say.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I, I, I agree with y'.

[Paul]

All.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's hard to say.

[Corey]

But they said.

[Joe Button]

But they, but, but I'm hearing that 40 is back, which gives me a different level of confidence, anticipation, and, and excitement because I'm a fan of what they do together.

[Big Parks]

Agreed.

[Joe Button]

I think recently there's been a lot of fan. Drake has just gotten a lot of fans of whatever he's been doing outside of 40. But 40 coming back, boy won and always. If that's happening.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Then I think he steps up to the point plate and does what he's supposed to do. I will be disappointed if whatever we hear sounds like something we heard because he's, he's in a space. I'm assuming he's in a space. He done went through some he ain't never went through before.

[Paul]

Or you mean lyrically or just sonic?

[Joe Button]

Just in life.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean professionally.

[Paul]

No, I'm talking about sonically or lyrics.

[Corey]

Both.

[Joe Button]

Both.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Both?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

I hate. Excuse me.

[Corey]

High expectation.

[Paul]

I think it's hard.

[Queens Flip]

I hear that a lot. Right, Joe? I hear that when, when you guys talk about his albums and you guys compare his albums to the classic ones. And the question I have for y' all is like, what are you guys expecting for him to hear? Isn't he evolving? So when he raps to something and he adjusts to something, he raps like that, and he adjusts to that to cater. Like, what do we or you guys, as Drake fans expect to hear from him? Cause you always go back to this album. Yo, I missed when he did this on Take Care or this was fire. Like, obviously, if he go back there, it's gonna sound dated. What if. So what are we expecting to hear?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I wouldn't expect him to go back to that. No, at all. I just hope he goes back to, like, struggle.

[Queens Flip]

What is. What is he. What should he talk about? No, no, I just want.

[Big Parks]

I just want Bangers from Drake. I'll be honest. Like, I just want a little more than that.

[Corey]

That would feel good. Yeah, just bangers.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Who cares? Yeah, Just let it be.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I want more. I want bangers. I think he's gonna have them. I think he's gonna be his best album in a long time because I think the pressure is so high. I think he's gonna. I think he feels like this is a high stakes album. And so I think you can't put out a stinker right now. I'd rather. Rather. And I think that's why I've been waiting. I think he's been like, perfecting it and perfecting it and perfecting it. But I want some reflection on this album too. I want, like, okay, I don't want no more whining about the beef. I don't care if he reflects and talks about what happened, but I don't want no more. Everybody left me and abandoned me. I want. Oh, you're getting some of that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's part of the reflection.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But I want more than that because I've heard that already a little bit. So I just want more. And I think he's gonna give us more. I'm really this to be one of his best albums yet.

[Paul]

I think he done sat his dumb

[Joe Button]

ass down when I was sitting on a train

[Queens Flip]

riding with Bloomberg.

[Corey]

Now, now, now this what he want from Drake.

[Joe Button]

He want the best shit ever.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm expecting it. I'm not demanding. It's.

[Paul]

I think he's sat in his ass down somewhere and ain't been outside as much.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I agree.

[Paul]

That's my personal opinion up. I think he. I think it's gonna be all right. Probably like seven and a half at the least.

[Corey]

Do y' all think.

[Joe Button]

Do y' all think that the Atlanta features are on there?

[Paul]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Which ones, though?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

21. Savage.

[Paul]

Yes, I think 21.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think little Baby's on.

[Paul]

I think baby.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the future one is the one I still don't know about.

[Paul]

No. They confirmed what the. Supposedly that future's on this new project.

[Joe Button]

They confirmed it.

[Paul]

Y' all way more into this than me. It been out here for weeks now that Future is indeed on his project.

[Joe Button]

But from where? Who said, like, who's confirming that?

[Paul]

The Internet.

[Corey]

I'm saying I don't think the people that can confirm it are confirming.

[Joe Button]

I think we just a lot of

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

speculation going on so people could say, yeah, I was right. I told y' all a lot of that. Lot of.

[Corey]

Lot of hoopla Young thug on it.

[Big Parks]

I hope so.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hope Future. I'm going to say yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll say yes.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Saying yeah. You said what? I don't want to hear Young th really. Not until he get back to himself. I don't think he's himself.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What's the sound?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He can't get back to himself.

[Queens Flip]

What do we want to hear from him?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Can't get back to himself.

[Joe Button]

Why that.

[Big Parks]

That album he put out last year wasn't as bad as people made it out to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It wasn't as good.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wasn't a great album.

[Big Parks]

I didn't say it was great, but I don't think.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But he makes great music.

[Big Parks]

There was some dope on there.

[Joe Button]

I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's the problem.

[Big Parks]

I think in a short dose, him with Drake is going to. He'll make a banger.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know if he can get back in that space that he needs to be in to make a banger. Why his conditions? Yeah, he has to be sober.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He's sober, so.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, yeah, that'll you up. Has to be all right. I tried writing sober one time. Terrible.

[Joe Button]

This nigga's a fool, B. I. I

[Paul]

hope it ain't too much. I hope he likes concise. Yeah. And I hope he put a couple of them on the same song.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Paul]

Just now have four different singles with four different Atlanta people. I hope he venture out a little bit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do we think the. The. The label business will be taken care of?

[Paul]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

Take care of it.

[Big Parks]

Not really. But I think he's got to drop regardless.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I think I'd put a project out, I think.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And see with that and that. That furthermore is why I think we need a Single. The business ain't right. Who say they going to push it that way? And. And they. Nobody on that. On that side could afford single before album.

[Paul]

Yes, but. But if the label ain't supporting it, then the single ain't gonna do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, what happens. But what happens a lot is the people get behind the single. If he has a really good single, the label's gonna have no choice but to support it.

[Big Parks]

I mean, but look what happened with the. The party record. They didn't really push a single, at least not one that worked. It was after the came out that no kid.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, and then.

[Corey]

Yeah, but that was undeniable.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course. But that was also an album that was not a solo Drake album. So we could afford to. If there is nothing that the people gravitate to, we can afford this album. Not doing certain numbers because this is not a Drake solo. We always got that in the tuck that this was a joint project over there. We talking about Drake's solo Iceman return album after all of that. We can't take a L on this.

[Corey]

And.

[Big Parks]

No, I think he's banking on the fact that he can drop it cold and it'll do numbers, because I think it will.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Big Parks]

We'll see.

[Joe Button]

Dropping it cold. Let's see what you did there. See, anyway, one of y' all kids in Toronto gonna die when them ice blocks start falling. Start falling.

[Corey]

Y' all is over there. That sledgehammer is a skill.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

It's tough.

[Corey]

They over there just breaking ice. Falling over on pedestrian.

[Joe Button]

It's a mess out there.

[Corey]

But I'll just wait.

[Joe Button]

I'm waiting for the music.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm waiting for the music. I do like the corny ice melting, for sure.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even think it's corny.

[Joe Button]

I just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not.

[Paul]

I think that was different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Be different.

[Joe Button]

It's creative.

[Paul]

Mad creative.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I remember when Kanye was doing Yeezus and you doing premieres on the side of the building. It was something different that we haven't seen. Like, oh, that's fly. I think if this album is Iceman and he been running with all these ice themes. A giant field of ice in the middle of the city. That's fire to me. I'm with it.

[Big Parks]

I'm excited. Can't wait.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's it. Can't wait.

[Big Parks]

You need some summertime bangers, man. It's been a slow, slow year, man.

[Queens Flip]

Do you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I know y' all clowning me about Kelani, but y' all saw she released a list of features for this, for the Friday.

[Big Parks]

I didn't see that, but do tell.

[Big Freeze Ice]

April, April 24, big album salute to her. I love her. Lil Wayne, T. Pain, Cardi B, Usher are all going to be on the album.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And she's got. From what I heard, from what I've heard, I haven't heard any the album yet, but I've heard it's really, really, really good. So you heard that from music critics who listen to it. I just haven't gotten a copy of it.

[Big Parks]

Maybe today they'll send it to you.

[Paul]

Four hit us.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not that. I'm not that in the mix no more.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm mad at that.

[Paul]

Four hitters.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, she got. I heard they strong. I heard the features are strong, too.

[Big Parks]

So shout out to Kellen. Can't wait. Can't wait.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anything else we got dropping this week that you know of?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't know anything else yet.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's all I've been focused on.

[Joe Button]

Ain't nobody dropping till Drake now.

[Corey]

They let him go anyway.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't know the date now we chilling. Go away. My date up.

[Queens Flip]

What was the last banger that we had this year? Parks?

[Big Parks]

I mean, Cole was the biggest one, but it didn't really produce any type of bangers.

[Corey]

You know what I mean?

[Queens Flip]

I'm talking about banging record songs.

[Big Parks]

It's been quiet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I want to hit a cold diss on Drake's out.

[Big Parks]

It might be a little shame.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It might be something in there, bro. He's going on this one.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Corey]

I thought we had a bet about.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, that was an old Beta something.

[Corey]

Yes. After he getting dissed, at least you can hide. You can hide in China League all you want, nigga. Them niggas love Drake, too.

[Big Parks]

It's gonna be at least a couple sub subs for sure.

[Paul]

I think it's gonna be some mentions or disses, bro. It's a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a different subs.

[Joe Button]

A mention is a diss to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I depend on the way you do it. It's not.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think he's gonna be honest.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he ain't about to mention

[Corey]

him in a favorable light.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think he's gonna be honest. No, I think he's gonna say some shit. Like, I understand why my nigga bowed out. I still didn't like it, though. You know, some shit where you communicate like, I thought that was fucked up, but I understand. Like some regular Drake shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I would take that as a disc.

[Joe Button]

We shoot.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, no, I'm just saying. Yeah, yeah. It's going to be a soft disc. I'm saying like a nice, light, honest, honest disc. Not like that.

[Vlad]

Who?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who catching more discs? This Drake, Cole or Braun? Oh, that's interesting.

[Paul]

Braun by far.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You think he mentions Braun?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What

[Big Parks]

he a like that at all?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, just Braun e

[Paul]

upside down inside all that?

[Big Parks]

Just a sheep.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I thought he was sub Brian. I didn't think he was gonna name him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He might not.

[Paul]

But when he get finished playing with bad.

[Corey]

Yo, when is Memorial Day?

[Big Parks]

May 25th, 26th. Somewhere in that range.

[Paul]

Last week of May.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that seems like a good time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

20 day, right?

[Joe Button]

I agree with y.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Perfect summer drop Y on 22nd day, long weekend.

[Big Parks]

Everybody's outside barbecuing and all that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think by the time we have our Memorial Day barbecue, we will already know the songs on there. Like, it'll already. The album will be out and we'll be playing the at Friday the 22nd. No, I'm saying he's saying. I'm saying, like, next week.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Coming out early. Early.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think it's coming out a couple weeks.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think it's next two weeks.

[Paul]

Yeah, me too. If I had to guess.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We'll find out.

[Big Parks]

We shall see.

[Corey]

We shall see. Have fun out there.

[Joe Button]

Canadians chopping ice up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Get to the bottom of it to

[Joe Button]

put that in New York. Have had that date already. These are soft.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Came out there with a propane torch

[Corey]

burning that for sure.

[Paul]

Rakim would have climbed up to the bottom of that. Yo, just get one of them out my.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I can get through there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good.

[Paul]

Have been through there already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You crazy, crazy ice tunnel in that.

[Joe Button]

What else in music needs our attention?

[Corey]

Did y' all see?

[Joe Button]

Did y' all see that Wayne said about the Grammys and the festivals?

[Corey]

Yeah, yada, yada, yada.

[Joe Button]

It's just Jesus, man.

[Big Parks]

Wayne, we love you, man.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Please and peace.

[Big Parks]

Please stop tweeting crying. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a truly humbling experience when events like Coachella and the Grammys come around and like clockwork, I'm uninvited and uninvolved. I appreciate my position or space. I hold in your heart and mind. So if. Because you're the humbling experience and timeless. For that I thank you. I ain't without you. Which is how he ends all his shows and.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, what's wrong with that?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did Wayne listen to any of his, like, recent drops and stuff? You didn't put the music out that justifies you being. Being nominated or at the Grammys.

[Joe Button]

Well, I think legacy alone could get them there. I'm more so on the side of. Cause there's somebody actually replied to him is traveling around the Internet. But we can name 90 of these times where Wayne was booked to do the Grammys. Pulled out at the last second. All the dancers was fucked up. Everybody who worked on the show for the last six weeks was fucked up. Now they gotta edit the show in the last minute. Don't nobody want to do that shit. Fucking. We had Mannie Fresh and Juvenile come up here and say, yo, everybody thought he was coming. He gave us his word. He told us he was coming. We made plans around him coming. And then the day of you're not there. I imagine there's about 30 of those stories.

[Paul]

Hell yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Okay. See, it is different now. Okay, Now I can see why would

[Joe Button]

they not playing with him like that.

[Queens Flip]

Cause if a nigga just wanted to be respected for the work that he's put in and he feels like in hip hop or in music, he's not getting the respect anymore, I could see him saying that. I don't have a problem with the that. You know what I mean? Like remind people who you are. I know you're gonna say, remind them by putting out good music. Sometimes is not sometimes get dated or hit a ceiling like we stated before.

[Paul]

The that I heard from him, to me it sounds like him.

[Queens Flip]

That's what I'm saying.

[Paul]

Like that sound like regular him. I just think that he don't got no push behind him at all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you listen to Carter 6?

[Big Freeze Ice]

The Carter 6 was ass.

[Queens Flip]

But this is why I asked you this question. These questions, especially a like freeze that listen to music. And I know you. What are y' all expecting to hear y' all leave it so open ended. I just want to hear the bangers. What is a banger to you?

[Joe Button]

Is Wayne on Drake album?

[Queens Flip]

No, no, no.

[Joe Button]

Y' all just said that.

[Paul]

Certainly I would be surprised.

[Corey]

Damn, I would love to see.

[Paul]

I would not be surprised, bro.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I would be shocked.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I would be shocked to see him or Nicky on Drake's album.

[Corey]

I wouldn't be surprised if Wayne ain't on that album.

[Joe Button]

I'm doing six months of deep diving. Why Wayne is not on.

[Paul]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Corey]

I think that that's gonna be my lick.

[Paul]

That's what I'm telling y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Paul]

I think this nigga been at home sitting around around making amends.

[Joe Button]

Maybe, maybe, maybe Drake.

[Big Parks]

I think there's.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't know who he gotta make amends to, you know.

[Paul]

You heard the rumblings like, yo, he crossed Wayne or whatever the case may be. I think in certain times when you get to your self reflection bag, you start making those calls like, yo, dawg, you my brother, I love you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All that shit.

[Paul]

I wouldn't be surprised if Wayne on the album.

[Corey]

Is Yachty gonna be on that?

[Queens Flip]

Yes, yes.

[Big Parks]

In some.

[Paul]

In some way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe not as a feature, but he worked on album.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, he'll be in there as a producer, writer or something.

[Joe Button]

Something.

[Big Parks]

If not a feature.

[Corey]

Yeah, just produce, dog.

[Joe Button]

Just produce these. Trying to be chill. Just don't, don't do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We getting accents on album.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Let's not be silly. Let's not. Let's not be silly. Which one accents?

[Big Parks]

Which accent?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, next.

[Joe Button]

That's one of his favorite things to do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm talking about features from across the pond.

[Corey]

Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We're gonna get a little central from Drake. Right.

[Paul]

If you get popcorn, you're gonna get patois.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Drake.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yep.

[Paul]

If you get London, you gonna get chatting. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna come with whoever's on all the accents.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. It's gonna be some international.

[Paul]

I think it's gonna be some. Some banger. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if heavy, heavy headed, heavy hitter pop stars might be on there for a single or two.

[Joe Button]

Yo, why it seemed like you're trying to taper your excitement.

[Paul]

I'm not excited. Y' all are way bigger Drake fans than me.

[Joe Button]

Now he attacking us.

[Paul]

I didn't attack you at all.

[Corey]

I made a statement.

[Paul]

I know attack. Stop getting your podcast back. Y' all know Drake album by album, song by. Oh, that's the fourth album. Seventh song. That's not me.

[Big Freeze Ice]

My. I don't know that.

[Big Parks]

Not according to the Internet.

[Paul]

I know based on what took place

[Big Freeze Ice]

here, the Drake talk happened before I got here. Are you. You're a Drake fan, though?

[Paul]

Anybody that like music, like Drake music.

[Queens Flip]

Why you. Are you a Drake fan?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I'm a fan music.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Paul]

These is Drake stands.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's nobody up here.

[Big Parks]

Stands a lot.

[Corey]

So they're big a lot.

[Joe Button]

My huge fan.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Their Drake. Stan is your Drake.

[Corey]

Stan.

[Big Parks]

Stan is a lot.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stan is a lot.

[Paul]

Yo, Joe, I don't even know the name of some of this boy songs. These be like, oh, yeah, you know that song?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, this.

[Paul]

So don't do that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That'll make you a stand. My.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Some of that is just knowing music.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't know. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I Don't know, cuz. Cuz when I got here, the whole narrative was. You're like the OVO whisperer.

[Paul]

Not even close.

[Queens Flip]

Okay, well, I was saying that. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

If he DM'd you to go out, would you go out?

[Paul]

Go out where?

[Queens Flip]

Outside with him.

[Joe Button]

Would you ask him where you mean

[Paul]

going outside with some strange man?

[Joe Button]

Man,

[Big Freeze Ice]

you got to be somewhere nice. I don't know.

[Queens Flip]

That, yo, is full of. Meet me at Saint. Stop it. I'm doing a surprise. You going to go there?

[Joe Button]

So you hang out with Simba and that Drake.

[Paul]

I know Simba.

[Joe Button]

You got to know Simba.

[Paul]

I met Simba and then we built a relationship. I never met Drake in my life.

[Joe Button]

Why are you building relationships with men? Why?

[Paul]

I'm building relationships with men.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You should try it sometimes.

[Queens Flip]

Why?

[Corey]

Never that? Never that.

[Joe Button]

Why would I do that? Why would I do that? I stand on my own, nigga. I don't need no gang click fucking frat. I don't need none of that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's an unnecessary drive by.

[Queens Flip]

Thank you.

[Corey]

When the rappers come in, I don't

[Joe Button]

just rush to get on my number. I play cool a little bit.

[Corey]

You just get right to Lincoln and building. Networking about.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes. Yo, he said Lincoln networking and building

[Corey]

is a bad thing with rappers. What the he do? He don't rap.

[Paul]

Number two.

[Corey]

Yeah, let's turn it up now that it's too calm. Too calm down with all the drinks. Turn it up in here.

[Paul]

You call me turn it up. I never gave no number to nobody that been up here. How you feel?

[Joe Button]

I take your word.

[Paul]

Oh, you see me get my nobody? No.

[Big Parks]

So how do you end up hanging out with Simba all the time?

[Paul]

Simba start talking to me through DMs. I haven't. I didn't walk up to Sim.

[Queens Flip]

So you saying I was talking to Sim.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They give you there first off, I

[Paul]

was talking to Simba before he ever came up here. He's the first to play Simba on the Internet.

[Big Parks]

You did?

[Paul]

I mean, on. On a sleeper.

[Queens Flip]

He made a mistake.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now as a sleeper, though, I play.

[Joe Button]

Okay,

[Queens Flip]

Don't do that now.

[Paul]

You do the same.

[Queens Flip]

It's your turn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm cool.

[Paul]

I could weather the storm, but there's

[Queens Flip]

a couple of people that came up here that you end up communicating with outside. And then you guys built a rapport and exchange numbers in the DMs. Not up here.

[Paul]

You see, I didn't walk up to somebody that ain't nowhere here and be like, yo, I'm a big fan of yours.

[Queens Flip]

My got you. I got you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Got you.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Queens Flip]

I a see him do that.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying I'm not hyper focusing on you. That's my man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The rest of y y' all identify as Drake Stands or fans or like big fan.

[Big Parks]

Stan is a lot Stan.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But you're a big fan. You're a big fan. We're all big fans.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. I'm not a big fan, though. I with Drake.

[Joe Button]

Music fan.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, music fan.

[Corey]

I'm not like.

[Joe Button]

I am music fan.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I with him.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think he's good.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

We got a jo y did it.

[Queens Flip]

I hate when the actual y be downplaying they fandom.

[Corey]

Y' all huge fans.

[Paul]

Y are super fans.

[Corey]

There is a difference between a fan

[Paul]

and it's a middle ground between a fan and a stand. It's a lot of 8.8s in this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Not a stand. Huge Drake fan.

[Joe Button]

You can't hang out with Simba and call me a stand.

[Paul]

Why?

[Queens Flip]

Why?

[Paul]

That's a genuine relationship. That's not based on

[Corey]

superstar say what I said.

[Paul]

I don't pick my friends based on their stats. I base my friends based on a genuine appeal to me. And how we click.

[Queens Flip]

Shout out to you.

[Joe Button]

To you.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Paul]

That's my okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Shout out to Zimbab, y'.

[Joe Button]

All. With who?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Who are y' all stands? Who would you say you are a stand of Ghost Face? Ghost Face.

[Queens Flip]

Jeezy Jeezy, that's fire. Shout to Ghost Face.

[Joe Button]

Look at my man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Who would you say you talking to?

[Tatiana Ali]

You.

[Paul]

I'm a real Dolly Parton. I'm a real big fan of Jay Z. I ain't no Stan, but I'm

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

a real big J Z fan.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Are you standing?

[Corey]

Hear that, podcast fans?

[Big Parks]

Kevin Samuels. Rest in peace.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Paul]

Bye.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's a good one. Would you say you're Kevin Samuels stand?

[Paul]

No.

[Joe Button]

Is there anything else in music that needs our attention?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes. Oh, yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's up?

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's kind of music is music adjacent. The MJ reviews.

[Big Parks]

Oh, more reviews about things that we

[Big Freeze Ice]

MJ premiere came out last night. I thought you one of us would be here. I thought somebody up here would be up there.

[Big Parks]

I thought so too.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I thought it be in Armani would have been my first choice, but I know Joe gets invited to stuff. I know you don't go to a lot of stuff, but this is a huge.

[Corey]

I'm not going to LA for you

[Big Freeze Ice]

wouldn't go to LA to see the MJ premiere.

[Joe Button]

Big check if I'm coming out there

[Corey]

to the MJ premiere.

[Queens Flip]

It's the biggest one.

[Big Parks]

What if they made you dress up?

[Joe Button]

No, I wouldn't be going to the MJ premiere. They knew who not to invite.

[Corey]

They did, right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Would you go to the Prince premiere?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

By the way, today's the day Prince died.

[Joe Button]

Yes. April 21st. Rest in peace.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

And you don't think this movie is going to be on the level of Purple Rain, do you?

[Big Parks]

Well, this is not the same kind

[Corey]

of film as Purple Rain.

[Queens Flip]

It's a bio.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Say it.

[Corey]

No, I don't. I'm not. Imani is excited about that Michael Jackson. But I see them. I see everybody went out. They was looking good, the premiere. A couple of trailers came out that were never before seen.

[Joe Button]

They've got Joe Jackson in there trying to interrupt while Michael Jackson is doing Gotta be There. And Barry Gordon said they get the out of here with all that.

[Corey]

Like, I. I get the hype that they build now. I just am not excited about a

[Joe Button]

Michael Jackson movie currently.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I want to be.

[Big Parks]

I want to be, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm going to see this shit. I'm excited.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm definitely all going to see it Friday night, right?

[Joe Button]

I'm going to see it when the DVD come out.

[Corey]

Please.

[Big Parks]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

I'm not going to the movie.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You're not doing a date night Friday or Friday, Saturday night?

[Corey]

I.

[Big Parks]

You neither.

[Queens Flip]

The. I pick about the clothes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So if my girl don't tell me

[Paul]

she want to go see it, I could wait.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no. My girl tell me she want, I go.

[Paul]

But outside of that, I ain't really beat like that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Last movie I seen was Sinners. I'm going like, I don't go to movie. I'm saying that to say I don't go to the movies often.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the last movie, I think, but

[Big Freeze Ice]

this is the one that'll take me there.

[Queens Flip]

To the wifey?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. Yeah. It's probably the best way.

[Joe Button]

You didn't go see Avatar?

[Big Parks]

No, the last one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't see the last one either.

[Corey]

Yet.

[Paul]

Either.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Unless we all went as a crew. We could all go as a crew. Team building.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm good to the movies. Is wrong with y'?

[Queens Flip]

All.

[Big Parks]

I'm gay as hell.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Go to the movies with a dude? Yes.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Group of dudes.

[Queens Flip]

A group of dudes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think that makes it less gay if I say me and you, mj. One booking a popcorn. That's gay.

[Paul]

Gay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Six of us. Seven of us. Eight of us.

[Corey]

That's gay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's gay. I'm telling you. I don't Think so.

[Paul]

I'm with Mark N. Y' all think two men sitting side by side in

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

a dark ass movie added something?

[Corey]

You just added that you got to have with a dude if you go to the movie.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

You don't do that and we'll get our own popcorns.

[Corey]

Exactly.

[Queens Flip]

You're not sharing.

[Big Parks]

We're doing well.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's why I don't get it. If we had our hand in the same bucket, I said, okay, maybe that's a little too intimate.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But sharing one straw.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But like, we can all go to. We can all go to the movies together.

[Corey]

No, we can't.

[Paul]

Yo, men are crazy.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Men are crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know what y' all talking about.

[Queens Flip]

A lot of movies that's out this year.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's out?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So you never go to movies with dudes?

[Big Parks]

No, I do sometimes, but not like a squad of us. That's weird.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, it's a squad.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, you go. You go. You go on a one on one.

[Corey]

Yeah, a nice intimate date with my brother.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

You

[Big Freeze Ice]

is gay this year. Okay, fair enough.

[Corey]

Doing anything as a guy with a squad of other guys sounds a little. Unless it's the club or some shit.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Let me understand this.

[Corey]

Even if it's the club, how did we all get together to travel as a gang?

[Queens Flip]

We talk.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I really like.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, what time we pulling up?

[Corey]

Not as an adult.

[Big Parks]

Who's that? Who's that in the Uber?

[Corey]

Men are crazy, son.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So if you. If you and Cory want to go be Avatar, that's okay, but if you.

[Corey]

No, it's not.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, but he's saying one on one isn't gay. But a whole bunch is gay. That's the part. I don't care. If you a Cory go. That's cool. All go. Sudden it's gay.

[Corey]

How many different ways do I need to say yes?

[Queens Flip]

After a certain age.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay, fair.

[Queens Flip]

After a certain age.

[Corey]

No, we done been to, man. We went to. We went to New Edition. Did we all travel together? Did we get a sprinter van? Did we get the dollar van and go. You take your wife. Everybody bunch up here. All right? Assign seats. Keep the same seat on the way back. What type of sucker do you think we do?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I ain't getting the car together, but trying.

[Corey]

We went to Blue Note and had a good time. Did all of us say, hey, man, why don't we meet in New Jersey? So I travel together. We adults now. We adults now. You got a family. You have a car. You have a wallet. You have a money. You can meet somebody there.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I didn't say we gotta ride in the same car. I'm saying if we plan to go together. I'm saying if me and you and Parks are going to the Blue Note without our ladies there.

[Joe Button]

That's gay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's gay.

[Big Parks]

Nah, that's.

[Corey]

Listen, no, that's not gay. But a concert. A concert is different than a movie.

[Paul]

No, but if it's six of y' all at the Blue Note, then that's gay.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm glad it makes.

[Corey]

I'm glad you see this. Why? You know, five other. That love jazz. Why y'. All. Why y' all got together? The. That love jazz in the crew. It should just be about three of y', all, like, on the fire Blue Note shows. Armani come. He tell me Parks like it's a secret society because what we about to

[Big Parks]

do in there, like.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Nah, man. It's a little gay. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. It's not all the way gay.

[Corey]

Just a little bit.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, we got it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So we don't go to MJ together. Otherwise we're still gonna watch it. Yes, yes. And we'll come back, hopefully two episodes from now with the whole break.

[Joe Button]

Come on. Let's talk about the reviews with this safe ass you're doing.

[Corey]

Say all that that we were saying off mic.

[Tatiana Ali]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The. I read a review that made me think it was gonna be good. Questlove gave a great review of it.

[Joe Button]

Questlove is a liar.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I trust Questlove.

[Corey]

I believe Questlove. Me too.

[Joe Button]

That's why it's easier to know when he's lying.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Or maybe he got a better eye.

[Corey]

I trust Questlove. If there was a board for the blacks, he's on my board.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I trust him.

[Joe Button]

I believe him. I rock with him.

[Corey]

He means so well for black people. He would never come on the Internet

[Joe Button]

and say a negative word about a

[Corey]

Michael Jackson movie, even if it was bad.

[Joe Button]

He would come out and say, that was one of the greatest, most prolific movies of our time. You have to go say, I do.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think he would do what I do. Either say something great about it or don't say shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's too. It's too big for him to not say. That ain't what you think.

[Big Freeze Ice]

If it's somebody I care about. Oh, if it's something I care about. You know what I'm saying?

[Paul]

That's not true either.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got out of the.

[Corey]

Nothing about your behavior up here tells me you care about Michael Jackson. You've been shitting on Michael Jackson for a moment.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was shooting a Michael movie before. Michael don't mean to me what he mean to Quest or what do you mean to Amani or what he means to some of you?

[Queens Flip]

I got you. So what. What is the reviews that. That you've been seeing.

[Joe Button]

You ain't even got a Black Dentist

[Big Freeze Ice]

on RogerEbert.com, which is still a major movie review site.

[Queens Flip]

The.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The headline is.

[Big Parks]

Is dead.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's dead. So now other reviews. Yeah, yeah, he's dead.

[Joe Button]

But the.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The. The site isn't dead.

[Corey]

Why are we going to Ebert if he's dead? Yeah, I ain't going

[Big Freeze Ice]

the same on New Year's, Dick Clark's New Year's, even though he's not alive. But I'm not getting Mark.

[Corey]

We don't watch Dick Clark's New Year's.

[Queens Flip]

What are you getting? Kind of.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Queens Flip]

If he's dead, you can watch his

[Big Freeze Ice]

balls drop without being gay. There is.

[Corey]

There's newer. Doing the ball drop pools.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. Ryan Secret.

[Corey]

Ryan Secret.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He does it on Dick Clark show.

[Corey]

Rv who my man is that broke the shit?

[Queens Flip]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

I don't remember right now.

[Corey]

It's other. It's other shows.

[Big Freeze Ice]

My point is it's a brand. That's what people go got. The review says Michael Jackson's movie is bad. It's that simple. They just said there was no new.

[Queens Flip]

This is bad.

[Corey]

Yo, fake Ebert. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. You can't talk about Michael Jackson movie like that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Just that fast.

[Joe Button]

I'm on Quest Love Song.

[Corey]

You can't talk about our fucking hero. Great movie like that. Fuck Ebert Junior.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm looking at. There's a few people. Almost every review I've seen. I'm looking. Looking at just a kind of a metalist. Almost every review is bad.

[Corey]

Van. Van saw it. Van said, I saw the premiere last night.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Tough.

[Big Parks]

Damn.

[Corey]

Now he was saying tough as in

[Joe Button]

it's a good movie. But how we know he might have been saying it?

[Big Parks]

Got a 31 on rotten tomatoes.

[Corey]

Tough, too. This was tough to watch because Van is another one that even if it

[Joe Button]

was, he gonna say something positive, vague.

[Paul]

I'm gonna leave it vague and ambiguous.

[Corey]

So even take a high calling a movie tough. Don't never give me the vibe that

[Joe Button]

it's good and you had a good time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Especially if that's all I'm saying.

[Big Parks]

I feel like even Questler. I'm freestyling. I read it. But he was like, it's so interesting because they told the story behind it. Like he didn't really Necessarily give it like thumbs up the most thumbs up.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He didn't say this is a classic.

[Corey]

Actually, he said yo first. At first I went in there with

[Joe Button]

my critic ears and my critic eyes

[Corey]

and some of the dates they got wrong, like when he wore this jacket or when he wore this.

[Joe Button]

And I'm sitting there like, hey, you got these dates all wrong. But then I realized how important this was to, to, to.

[Queens Flip]

I can't on it.

[Joe Button]

That's what he, that's what he said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what that means.

[Joe Button]

That's what he said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not going on it.

[Queens Flip]

When a movie of that caliber sucks, do they go back and make another one or just leave it?

[Joe Button]

I'm hearing it already. Rumblings of a part two.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's what I'm hearing.

[Paul]

Same cast, same people, same director, producer.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. Then they do another.

[Paul]

Could just be a different joint. Not a part two to this one.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Well, because remember the movie is a period. So you could absolutely. It could be either. I don't know the answer either, but it could certainly be. If this movie does well, I imagine they're gonna make a second one. Taking us through like the bad era, which could be interesting.

[Big Parks]

It's definitely gonna do well, I think regardless.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Of course it's Michael Jackson.

[Big Parks]

Critically, I don't know if it'll do well.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's not gonna do well critically. It's just not just looking at the early reviews. I mean it would be almost unheard of to see that much of an about face from the early reviews. To like later on everybody saying, oh this is an Oscar film.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, and are. Are these critics understanding of Michael Jackson and culture? Cuz a lot of times you get reviewing some that they really have no idea what they talking about.

[Paul]

That's a good point.

[Big Parks]

Michael, Michael Jackson been Michael Jackson transcended so much. I would, I would be shocked if people didn't understand the nuances of the Michael Jackson song.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying I'm not putting too much emphasis on what any of these critics say. It's people that don't like Mike for whatever reason, whatever they believed. So it's, it's. Some of these reviews can be weighted before you even Prince.

[Big Parks]

I can see them fucking up. There's a lot of nuance with Prince. I can see them absolutely missing nuance in a movie about Prince. Mike, I feel like everything has been so public it would be hard for people not to understand what's going on.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And it's also about.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he's a Lot easier to emulate.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wow. Some of the, some of the critic critiques I've heard of the film aren't even about the Michael ness of it. It's like makeup, lighting, actual performances and the actual clarity of the story. Because I shouldn't have to know Michael Jackson to understand the timeline, if you know what I'm saying. Like if it's a. If it's well done. So that stuff is the stuff that I'm more worried about. I'm with you. You could easily watch this movie and not get like, you know, if you don't know Michael, you could it up. But I'm hearing it's not even that deep of a up. I'm hearing some of the. The problems are much more superficial. Okay, but we'll see.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm see. I'm going go see the show.

[Joe Button]

I'll tell you one thing, and this is not an educated take. Say it. Go ahead and say it. Too easy.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm better.

[Joe Button]

Jermaine showing up to the premiere dressed as Michael is bothering me.

[Queens Flip]

Let me see that.

[Joe Button]

Did y' all look at. Jermaine showed up dressed like Michael with his 28 year old girlfriend son starring.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw that, but I didn't think

[Paul]

he was trying to dress like Michael.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What the.

[Joe Button]

Why is Jermaine Jackson still dressing like that?

[Big Freeze Ice]

He might have been just dressing like Jermaine.

[Paul]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, no, that's not dressing up like Michael.

[Paul]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I saw it.

[Paul]

I ain't think that was dressing up like Michael neither.

[Joe Button]

What did he look like?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Captain Crunch.

[Paul]

A look like

[Queens Flip]

with the J5 and shit.

[Corey]

That n look crazy. He do look like Captain Crazy.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I feel like Jermaine is trying to come up to the premiere and steal the show. Jermaine shouldn't. How old is he?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

78?

[Queens Flip]

71.

[Corey]

He should not still be greasing back the sides of his hair and putting the S curl at the. Get him the out of here. I know it's a big day for the family. I can see why Jana cursed him out.

[Joe Button]

If that story is true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If that story is true, Jermaine is bald. Wait, so that is drawn on that sharpie in glue Ice that shit go up here. He glued this top shit on and

[Paul]

they got 28 year old wife Joey trying to stay young.

[Big Parks]

Sure.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He says his hair is real, by the way. He says it's 100% natural. He does nothing to it. He just uses a little bit of gel to style it.

[Corey]

What the hell he look like on

[Joe Button]

a non premiere day like we ain't seen this in eons.

[Queens Flip]

Stop it man.

[Corey]

And I just recently found out that

[Joe Button]

Jermaine Jackson song that I absolutely love, don't take it personal was originally written for Milli Vanilli.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Makes sense.

[Corey]

I had no idea. Now that I know that sound like it. It sounds exactly like a Milli Vanilli song.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that would have been great on that album.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that Jermaine album was hard though. Captain Crunch like a wax figure I'm

[Paul]

if you like any flammable thing come

[Queens Flip]

by that nigga, he's on fire.

[Paul]

Rap city.

[Joe Button]

It's why when you be over 70 and you chicks in their 20s still you just in the house just trying to put shit on you.

[Corey]

Just just trying to not I gotta keep around. Yeah, yeah. Cause you're trying to not look 79.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's it.

[Paul]

Check me out.

[Joe Button]

That is a damn shame. Go Jermaine.

[Paul]

I got some Timberlands.

[Corey]

They call them Timberland. Janet was well within her right, but

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

buddy bucko J saw that and said nope, keep me out of that.

[Corey]

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[Corey]

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[Corey]

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[Joe Button]

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[Corey]

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[Joe Button]

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[Big Parks]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

Goddamn right.

[Corey]

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[Joe Button]

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[Big Freeze Ice]

stepped

[Joe Button]

up, Changed a little line. Changed the line on me at the end. I know they got some money.

[Corey]

Yes, sir. We good.

[Paul]

We already right. It ain't good to be right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We got some more NBA partnerships.

[Paul]

We right. All right.

[Corey]

They threw my little tagline I gave

[Joe Button]

them right out the window a couple years ago, wasn't it?

[Corey]

Yeah. What was my line?

[Joe Button]

Run your game.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Run.

[Joe Button]

They didn't give a fuck about running.

[Queens Flip]

You made that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That up?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Paul]

Oh, they ran you out of the game.

[Joe Button]

That was dope, though.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I didn't know it sounded official.

[Joe Button]

Seriously? Yeah. Once they became official partners, NBA, it's just like. Yeah, we don't need any lines.

[Corey]

We already run.

[Big Parks]

We thought you was. I'm loving it.

[Corey]

You're not.

[Big Parks]

It was a good shot though. It was a good shot.

[Joe Button]

I tried it. I tried it.

[Corey]

All right. Come on, Witty. I want to go. What do you want to talk about?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Since you bring up fast food. Food. Why don't we talk about Mary J. Bl for a second?

[Big Parks]

Okay. The legend.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They did an interview with Mary J. Blige. Well, I always love Mary interviews. Cuz she's so honest. And they asked, they said, you know, you got. We got. We got the, the clip. The homeboy was interviewing her and said to her, now that some time has passed, are you ready to laugh at that Burger King commercial you did? I thought it was going to go

[Big Parks]

one way, it did not go that way.

[Joe Button]

And it went the other way.

[Mary J. Blige]

I would never laugh at that because my. My true, honest to true fans did not think that was funny. Yeah, the whole way that went down was wrong. The whole way they shot it was wrong. It was set up to make exactly what happened in the press happen. Like that.

[Corey]

You really feel that way.

[Mary J. Blige]

Yep. And so it's still not a laughing matter to me.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mary J. Blige]

You know, because I was deeply, deeply affected. Now I learned a lot from it.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mary J. Blige]

But it's not something I'm like, no, it's not funny. But laugh your mother if you want. Still, I don't care.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hear that.

[Mary J. Blige]

But the bottom line is my fans were confused. The real true fans. Not the people that dip in and dip out.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Mary J. Blige]

But the people was like, what's going On. And I didn't really know what was going on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Mary J. Blige]

But I had bad representation, bad management, bad everything. And everybody dropped the ball and I'm holding everything.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Mary J. Blige]

That was a learning curve. I would never laugh.

[Paul]

Glad that you're open to this, because I think that people think or have a feeling that.

[Queens Flip]

Because it has been some time. Right.

[Vlad]

Cause you see people like doing renditions

[Corey]

of the song online.

[Paul]

You see people now having a totally different.

[Big Freeze Ice]

In some ways, having a totally different

[Paul]

perspective on that as it's just content. But that's your life.

[Corey]

I love when an interview is trying to get messy and it don't go his way so he walk it back and try to be clean. That was your life.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It was smart.

[Mary J. Blige]

I was getting clobbered for no reason. But it did show me something. One minute people are with you, and one minute they are not. It showed me just how fickle the game is. And it showed me, Mary, exactly who my friends were.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Really?

[Tatiana Ali]

Yeah.

[Mary J. Blige]

Friends are not around anymore.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No way.

[Mary J. Blige]

He used to be people.

[Big Parks]

I don't remember the commercial that well.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Anybody.

[Mary J. Blige]

Nobody want to see?

[Corey]

I'm bl.

[Mary J. Blige]

So the people that. This is where I learn. I go where I'm celebrated at.

[Corey]

You guys get married.

[Joe Button]

You drag.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Exciting things are happening at Burger King.

[Corey]

Welcome to Burger King.

[Paul]

What's in those new chicken snack wraps?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's in the new chicken?

[Queens Flip]

New chicken wraps.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Mary Crispy chicken.

[Corey]

Let's go. Let's go, mary.

[Joe Button]

Hey.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Chicken snack wraps.

[Corey]

Come and get it.

[Joe Button]

Exciting things are happening. Chicken for the top.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What's in the new chicken?

[Queens Flip]

New chicken wraps.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Mary.

[Queens Flip]

That was Mary Crispy chicken

[Big Freeze Ice]

with dressing

[Corey]

like the Burger King. Touch it or not.

[Joe Button]

Hey,

[Corey]

come on now.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Chicken snack wraps.

[Big Parks]

I thought it was horrible.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Big Parks]

But her performance was great.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She sounded good. That wrapped up in a had me every time.

[Joe Button]

Parks can't talk to us about it because he's Grammy nominated. With Mary, I can't really talk about. Cause at the Knick game, sometimes Mary end up in the elevator with me. And I absolutely love and adore her. Like, that's my girl. I love her family. Like, but this is just the most. Come on. This is so dramatic.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I mean, I love Mary J. Blige. I adore Mary J. Blige. I got nothing bad to say about her. I just. This is a terrible commercial.

[Corey]

Why?

[Big Parks]

That's what she said.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, no. I'm with her on that part.

[Big Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's the part sometimes when things go wrong.

[Queens Flip]

Well, I don't understand.

[Big Freeze Ice]

To answer your question. Cause it plays on first of all, she's too big to be standing on top of a table. Chicken for chicken.

[Queens Flip]

Okay, got it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And second, do you think that she

[Joe Button]

didn't see the treatment?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Well, that's where I'm. That's my point.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's like when shit don't go right, suddenly the whole team did this to me. The management did. When you were singing crispy chicken, fresh lettuce and cheeses, how'd you think the

[Queens Flip]

world was going to do?

[Corey]

No, even before that, when Kendu or

[Joe Button]

whoever was managing, you called and said, burger. I got Burger King. I got something cooking up with Burger King at that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's it.

[Corey]

Thank you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's it.

[Corey]

Like, tell.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because we got to tell the truth about that part.

[Corey]

I got a nice big check for

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

this, and I needed it at that time.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Right.

[Joe Button]

I ain't going to say she needed

[Corey]

it, but who a big enough check?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You need my.

[Queens Flip]

We a making poking fun at black people. Like stereotypical.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It plays with some stereotypes.

[Joe Button]

What stereotypes?

[Corey]

Like

[Paul]

black people singing about.

[Corey]

All right, man, they sell chicken at Burger King.

[Queens Flip]

I thought that was cool.

[Corey]

Should she not say we pay you millions of dollars.

[Joe Button]

Do the Burger King conversion.

[Corey]

You just going to skip chicken because of black.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you feel the same way about the Jerry Rice Popeyes commercial?

[Big Parks]

That was crazy.

[Joe Button]

I don't remember.

[Big Parks]

That was crazy. With the helmet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Helmet with the chicken right here.

[Corey]

No, I'm just asking because again, I

[Queens Flip]

got to see that. Let me see.

[Corey]

But this is a rap.

[Big Parks]

I don't think that the rap is the one.

[Corey]

Jerry R. Was crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shut the.

[Big Parks]

That was crazy.

[Corey]

Shut up, man. Just like Jerry R. Popeyes, they'll pop up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He took four different. Four different shots.

[Joe Button]

Anytime I open my.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah,

[Corey]

I don't know what Apple did, but now when I'm.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They cutting to the chase.

[Corey]

Hold on.

[Queens Flip]

Wait, wait, wait. You know saying what I'm.

[Corey]

Know what I'm saying? That's the OG, Dude.

[Queens Flip]

That's the OG you know. You know what you doing?

[Corey]

Let's see. Let's see what this do.

[Queens Flip]

That's her.

[Corey]

You was not on that at all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I saw what you was on.

[Corey]

Audience. My screen when I open Safari is

[Joe Button]

always like, automatically on the only fans login screen.

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Joe Button]

Which.

[Big Parks]

That's your homepage.

[Corey]

Only fans used to keep you logged in. In for at least a week or two. And then if you don't log in

[Joe Button]

after two weeks, they feel like.

[Corey]

They feel like you're not horny, so they get you out of here.

[Big Parks]

I've been on Only fans in a Long time.

[Joe Button]

Them ain't doing nothing. I'm in there talking to them. Yo, you ain't uploaded it in a while.

[Big Parks]

Give them tips.

[Corey]

Yeah, cuz they ain't, man.

[Big Parks]

It's not what it used to be, man. It's over.

[Joe Button]

She ain't talking about what this said.

[Queens Flip]

That's. That's a robot.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, but I'm talking to him.

[Queens Flip]

Back to the robot. Robot.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Cause don't think I'm sweet money.

[Corey]

Stupid ass robot. Hey, Poppy, you haven't bought videos in a while. I was like, you ain't upload a video in a while. It been since January.

[Joe Button]

Then she sent one. That's their trick to get you to Pay. They send One69 the highest price.

[Corey]

The highest price. They send it over. So now I don't accept it no more.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You accepted it before?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I did.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I cover that.

[Joe Button]

You on it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

$69.

[Queens Flip]

I gotta go with the best.

[Big Parks]

They got too froggy on only fans. Yo.

[Corey]

What?

[Big Parks]

69 for a video is not happening

[Queens Flip]

if it's somebody that you watch and you, you.

[Corey]

I don't know what the they talking about.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What's the. What's the normal rate?

[Corey]

Here he comes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I'm asking like 60 a lot. What's the what? What should you pay?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They say it's not a lot.

[Joe Button]

Ask them.

[Corey]

They the experts.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not paying for it.

[Big Parks]

Usually they would give you some free and then the 60. 60, the 69, whatever. DM would be some explicit.

[Corey]

I'm talking about the DMS. That's where they bang you. Whatever they doing on their timeline. They timeline?

[Big Parks]

But they don't even be on the timeline no more. That's the problem.

[Corey]

Because they're getting too much money in the dms.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, got you.

[Queens Flip]

That's how they get you. They get you through the dm. They got me. They.

[Corey]

Them girls. We don't talk about it because we. They have the best business in the world. The best business in the world. That's probably the best and biggest.

[Paul]

It's gonna be a doc creator.

[Corey]

Now that's probably the best and biggest creator community over there. If you're a creator, I advise you

[Joe Button]

to just watch tendencies and patterns and data over there.

[Queens Flip]

But yeah, I that back, yo, titties.

[Corey]

Cuz. They. They re. They repackage. They re rock. Whatever video they put up last week, they put up the very next week. Try to trick you into just buying multiple times. They try to bundle the videos together. Hey, take this, Joi.

[Big Parks]

No, no, I know how to do it.

[Corey]

Yeah, I Don't need health. The other day. She put some on there. And write that down because we don't want to expose it. She put some on there. Talking about something. All right, for all you hot and heavy feet guys out there, here's a joi of my feet jerking you. So she showed a preview.

[Big Parks]

And this J mean jerk off instruction.

[Joe Button]

Let's move on, man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was playing along. I didn't know.

[Corey]

I didn't know what it was the only one right here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm hear that slow like J.1 peg or something. That's why I wanna hear what he was lying.

[Joe Button]

Instructions.

[Queens Flip]

Where the.

[Corey]

I don't need instructions on how to beat my. I'm a pro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What the is wrong with y'?

[Corey]

All? But this is why I don't.

[Joe Button]

With this couch.

[Corey]

This couch is just so ideal.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's not ideal.

[Corey]

I. I can't understand. That's all ice and it's. But I. I'm saying I think you can. If y' all had a.

[Joe Button]

A girl in sight. And I ain't even gonna get into him because he got a couple inside. I see him on the likes.

[Corey]

But if one of them just was that you wanted to get you to

[Queens Flip]

do it like this.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Talking you through it. Going crazy.

[Joe Button]

Showing you spend $69 on. Worse. You spend 69 or worse.

[Corey]

It ain't a lot.

[Joe Button]

Especially if you come from the strip club.

[Corey]

You just spent seven grand in there and ain't getting nut at all.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm going to give us $69, Mike. Yeah, for sure, dog.

[Paul]

You earned that money.

[Joe Button]

But I didn't.

[Paul]

I'm not mad.

[Corey]

I'm just talking right now.

[Joe Button]

But I did not. I get it. Cuz I was like, yo, dog, cuz I done bought too many of the same B. I was like, yo, yo, what's on this one? I'm talking to the robot. She talking about some. Something that's guaranteed to have you throbbing.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Throbbing.

[Joe Button]

So I bought it.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, the robot got you.

[Joe Button]

No, Two days later.

[Corey]

I bought it two days later.

[Big Parks]

Sometimes they'll give you a little discount after a couple days.

[Corey]

Yeah, So I bought it two days later just to see. And guess what?

[Queens Flip]

Same.

[Joe Button]

Didn't thr.

[Corey]

Didn't thr.

[Queens Flip]

Hey, fam.

[Paul]

Nobody can even get my money. They say the word throbbing with.

[Corey]

We know, Mr. Vanilla.

[Big Parks]

We got it.

[Corey]

We got it.

[Queens Flip]

They can't get your money, everybody.

[Paul]

Yeah, sorry.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm with you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Corey]

I'm fine with this being a. A very vanilla room. It's okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why gotta be vanilla? It could Just could go over here and watch.

[Paul]

We don't like his sprinkles.

[Big Parks]

That girl. You want that girl.

[Corey]

I'm trying to get a nut.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't got to be that girl.

[Big Parks]

Enjoy myself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This girl will get it done too.

[Corey]

It's vanilla.

[Joe Button]

Because the porn industry is in the mega billions now, so people feel this way. So that's why. That's why it's vanilla.

[Corey]

No, like people.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's also people.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I watch porn.

[Corey]

You don't have phone sex.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I watch porn.

[Queens Flip]

I live with my girl.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why do I need to have phone sex?

[Joe Button]

So the answer is no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Corey]

I live with my girl and have

[Joe Button]

plenty of phone sex.

[Corey]

You don't at all. That mean I live this. I got snuck in the other room.

[Mary J. Blige]

Room.

[Corey]

You talking about anytime she ran in the store like you go in the kids room.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Crazy.

[Paul]

And I watch porn.

[Corey]

So.

[Paul]

All right, vanilla. I just don't want to spend no money on some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I could get free, but it's not.

[Corey]

But you can't get it for free.

[Big Parks]

Yes you can.

[Corey]

No, you can't.

[Paul]

What's it cuz? I. I can't argue with you cuz I never died.

[Corey]

You can't get commentary from this specific person.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You look and they say they don't care who the person is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, I'm not even saying that. I'm saying the person that you talking about talking about, I can go get that for free.

[Big Parks]

I don't have sometimes not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Right? That is true. All that on only fans. You can type something and go get it for free.

[Big Parks]

So those.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Corey]

Y' all just sound like novice. That's not true. But that's not true. It's all I'm saying. I'm not fighting with you.

[Queens Flip]

They're all website. I get what he's saying. There are websites that give you the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There are that subscribe to this and put it record everything and then they go upload it.

[Corey]

I'm aware. I'm aware.

[Big Parks]

That applies when it's like stars or something approaching.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not just this. There are places now that highlight them. They ain't going for the stars because there's a. There's a group of us who want to see them without paying for them.

[Big Parks]

I live in both worlds. I have both paid for pornography via only fans and other devices and I'm a nerd. And it will hit the Reddit streets or wherever the to chase down a link. Sometimes they not on them.

[Corey]

They're not all. That's All I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fine. I'll take that.

[Corey]

The free Reddit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But they got somebody that look just like her. That'll get it done.

[Big Freeze Ice]

My goal is to get this out.

[Queens Flip]

That's exactly. I don't have fantasies. And she's a fantasy of being with a person listening my.

[Paul]

I'm telling y' all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What's good for y' all is good for.

[Paul]

I'm not knocking what's good for y'. All. So don't knock what I'm not willing to do. I don't want to spend my. I'm not on anybody.

[Queens Flip]

Just say you don't do it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's it.

[Corey]

Oh, that's crazy. No, that's not crazy. The future of porn is you gonna have to pay for all of it. That's what we tell you. It's not crazy. That's what we're saying.

[Paul]

Nobody said it's crazy.

[Big Parks]

And the other free sites be trash.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

There's Ben over on the Hub and all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What's wrong? What's wrong with the free stuff?

[Corey]

It'd be trash.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What makes it trash? Like, it's not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all a porn corner.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. There's no more.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I respect y'.

[Corey]

All.

[Big Parks]

There's no more super dope porn stars and mainstream pornhub porn anymore.

[Corey]

It's rare.

[Big Parks]

It's much rarer than how it was back in.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No women who are naked.

[Big Parks]

There's women that are naked, but they

[Corey]

don't be the dopest.

[Big Parks]

The dopest of women.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They too

[Queens Flip]

freeze. It's a dude different feeling when you watch it.

[Corey]

When you pay for it.

[Queens Flip]

No, no, no. Listen, listen. You're watching. You're watching a porn that's produced. Nobody give a about them. When you watch a girl that you can see or that you know and she's out there getting nasty and she's doing things like some porn without the whole production team there and a directing

[Corey]

and all that stupid music.

[Queens Flip]

It look good. Y' all watching that Regular old school

[Corey]

watching from the 70s.

[Queens Flip]

Welcome.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Welcome.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, BLEEP his name for me.

[Corey]

I'm going to now. Welcome.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. BLEEP this name for me.

[Queens Flip]

My.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You came in here tweaking out over and we went right on the same and saw her wing the out for the free.

[Queens Flip]

I saw for free.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But what I'm saying is we had

[Corey]

that free one we had. We telling you it's new heat.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The new heat.

[Big Parks]

This gets it done.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm looking at the same.

[Corey]

And to Each his arm.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not knocking what you do. I'm knocking.

[Corey]

Knocking what you do. Big free.

[Queens Flip]

The freak was not like that. No, the freak.

[Corey]

I'm a freak.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

For not wanting to pay for.

[Big Parks]

I don't need the greatest hits. I want the album cuts.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You got.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Run that bike. Run that.

[Corey]

I'm good, bro.

[Big Parks]

That's just. I'm tired of that song.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I didn't think the burger King fresh lettuce match was going to get us here.

[Corey]

We're getting back to Jerry Rice.

[Queens Flip]

This looked crazy.

[Corey]

We're getting back to Jerry Rice.

[Big Parks]

That was crazy.

[Corey]

Jerry Rice looks absolutely nothing.

[Joe Button]

I'm not up the only fans yet.

[Corey]

I ain't okay it.

[Joe Button]

It.

[Paul]

I think only fans is probably creating.

[Corey]

I'm weirder than y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Absolutely.

[Paul]

I'm in there fucking talking to their boyfriend.

[Joe Button]

Want to add millions. We making fun of these funny. I'm in there talking to these girlfriend, the cameraman. Some of them get the wrong angles. You getting it from the bottom.

[Big Parks]

You give them tips.

[Joe Button]

You rooting them on like y.

[Corey]

I know that I'm different from them.

[Joe Button]

I don't care.

[Big Parks]

Trying to ghost produce the only fans.

[Corey]

Hey, when I woke up yesterday morning, my sassy ass hit her right back.

[Joe Button]

It didn't throb.

[Corey]

I hit it right back. It didn't throb. Wasn't it throb in sight?

[Joe Button]

I just see Jimmy me back.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, like, here, buy this one. This one. Don't do it.

[Paul]

Yo, this. Take this one for $30.

[Joe Button]

Vanilla couches, talking Vanilla Ice. What you say when you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

When you hit a back like, yo, that it didn't throb. Like, what do you get back?

[Joe Button]

Well, I didn't check it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I'm saying, like, in general, like, once you pay your money is. Is. Is the rap.

[Joe Button]

Then the questionnaire comes. Well, what do you not want to see, Danny?

[Corey]

What really gets you going?

[Joe Button]

Annoying.

[Paul]

Got you.

[Joe Button]

Then they'll send 30 videos.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, yeah, gotcha.

[Corey]

Anyway, Jerry Rice.

[Joe Button]

Jerry Rice looks absolutely nuts.

[Corey]

I don't feel like Jerry Rice about

[Joe Button]

how I feel about Mary.

[Corey]

That's a stereotype. I don't see how Mary was stereotypical.

[Joe Button]

Really.

[Corey]

Anytime a black person sings about chicken, it's stereotypical.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, anytime a black person sings about stereotypical. But I don't think she got a. Here's the thing. And I don't think she was. I don't. I didn't have the criticism of Mary for that. I just didn't like the commercial. I didn't think it was because it was Chicken. I just didn't think it was. I thought she was too big and too great to be doing about chicken. I think if it been. No, but I mean you can sing for chicken. Well, you know what I mean, Like a well done commercial.

[Corey]

Her vocals wasn't mixed right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It was a lot. She's right. Everything she said is right.

[Corey]

And who wrote that?

[Joe Button]

Like that wasn't bcock's.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, it definitely wasn't. Yeah, I, I, yeah. I just think sometimes artists gotta play a little bit, take a little more accountability for how they end up there. Like you saw something before.

[Joe Button]

I'm surprised that she's that angry. She's really angry. She said she lost friends.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She was dead ass. You know why? Because Mary is so revered and she gets so little criticism from inside the community. Like we adore her. So like no one is. This is probably one of the most embarrassing moments in her career.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

If you think about it. I mean, I can't think of another moment where Mary would admit it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't really be no smart or Mary.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what I'm saying. Saying so. And I think the friends you might lose are people who had little jokes on the Internet. People who said she probably like, no,

[Corey]

it's only smut now because we know

[Joe Button]

how she feels about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was smart when it happened, bro.

[Joe Button]

It was a joke and you could be in on the joke.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's the smut though. Like if nobody's ever really came, had no negativity attached to your name. And now this happens and people was called. I remember the names they was calling her when she was singing for chicken.

[Paul]

Or if you ain't in on the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

joke, that's smart at that point.

[Queens Flip]

I ain't know that.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what names they were.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They were, People were harsh.

[Joe Button]

I remember talking about the, I'm just

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

saying the commentary around when that commercial. No, it was.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I remember even as a professor, I mean they were criticizing this like, this is some, you know, I want to use the language because I don't want to reinforce it, but they were saying a lot of up about marrying this commercial. People did not like this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I remember Mary's one of our greats. So for you to do it, they got to you and had you out here doing that. People were saying a lot about Mary so I can see how that could bother her. She might not have expected that to happen. And that's the problem though. That's where the lack of accountability come in. Because it's like, yeah, you saw this you didn't think it would be received this way. And now that it is, it's like, oh, that's my team fault.

[Corey]

I don't think Mary.

[Joe Button]

I think Mary's too big and was too big to know how the Internet worked at that time, too.

[Big Parks]

It might have been that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

There's a lot of people that had, like, a disconnect with the Internet.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Especially people from her era.

[Big Freeze Ice]

This was early Twitter.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Mary is now on the Mount Rushmore of bad artist commercials, along with Memphis Bleak. This one, which is probably the best one ever.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's up there.

[Joe Button]

Uncle Murder in the check cashing spot. Ah, I forgot about Uncle Murder in the check cashing spot.

[Queens Flip]

Bond shop.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Paul Shop.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Forgot about that. Damn.

[Joe Button]

What else y. Throw me on there with that Hares clothing store commercial?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was going to ask you all.

[Joe Button]

Y' all. Don't ask me nothing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The rest of.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Have y' all ever made, like, a professional move where you look back, it's like, y', all, I played myself. That one. Was I embarrassed myself?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What was it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I, I. I was approached by. I don't want to rehash it, but Flex asked me to do something for him, and in hindsight, I wish I never did it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You should say more than that, because.

[Joe Button]

No, you can't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I can't. I really can't.

[Joe Button]

He can't.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

It was really a dark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was bad.

[Joe Button]

It was horrible. It was really.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't realize I was walking myself into a trap.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, okay.

[Queens Flip]

Flex for lugs.

[Joe Button]

Flex, that my man up boy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He set me up good, and I walk right into it. But I had to own it, though.

[Joe Button]

And you did such a great job at that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know we could move it, but

[Joe Button]

I've done that a million times. A million times. Commercials, movies, photo shoots.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And that's what makes a difference. Like, if you have a bunch of stuff. Same with me. Like, you make good decisions, bad decisions, but when you marry, you only got one, and your shit is glowing, it makes that one look worse than it actually is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And because you've never done it before, you haven't dealt with the negativity that comes with it. So now this is a first for you, right? Like, oh, shit, they really hate me for this shit. I've never been here before for.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So, you know, some people have to learn how to react to that in real time.

[Big Freeze Ice]

How about you?

[Paul]

Wish professionally, nothing that I could think off, off the top of my head, because I wasn't never really in the entertainment sphere.

[Tatiana Ali]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Got you, got you, got you.

[Joe Button]

Y' all seen Tatiana Ali, man?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Many times.

[Queens Flip]

Nah.

[Big Parks]

Now I gotta Google it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. Nice guy,

[Joe Button]

Mark. I'mma just expose our talks.

[Paul]

How you know he nice?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Cuz I met him and he's nice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why you always met the dude we about to clown? We can't clown him.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Please, I. He's not the homie just met. I know Tatiana. I don't know him like that.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying. Tatiana.

[Corey]

Tatiana posted her dude this right here.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but no, we got to get the other picture.

[Corey]

She posted a dude.

[Joe Button]

The comments were disrespectful. She clapped back at one of the dudes. Cuz the commenters are like, yo, we. You were our dream woman growing up. Like, you were every guy's fantasy. If homeboy bagged, I know I could.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We could back.

[Corey]

Why? Women don't like when that said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Women don't like when that said you let Terry bone.

[Corey]

Women don't like when that said. And granted, maybe it is inconsiderate and maybe it's not true.

[Paul]

Yeah, they shouldn't like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but it's safe to assault.

[Big Parks]

Assume that's some hate.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Big Parks]

There's a lot of hate.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's a lot of hate.

[Joe Button]

It is up to say if he got that.

[Big Parks]

It's also back to things that are a little bit gay.

[Queens Flip]

Imagine I'll do this.

[Big Parks]

He's not cute enough for her. You don't think he's cute enough?

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's like that Chris Rock had that bit back in there. He's like, you know, I didn't know I had a shot. I forget who he's talking about. It's. It's like, that's how a lot of dudes think when they see somebody who's amazing and they see him with a dude. That you be like, I measure up to him. But it's corny and it's wrong. I think men really miss what women actually want sometimes and what they actually. Who they're willing to marry or be serious about.

[Paul]

And we condemn them when they sit on the side.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The other side. Right?

[Paul]

The shit we diss all the time. And then when they do it, we still diss them. Like, yo, you fucked up, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She clapped back at the dude, though.

[Queens Flip]

What's she. What you said?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Well, first dude, Derek A. Brooks said I had a crush on Tatiana Ali from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air since I was a little boy. I'm looking at this picture of her and her husband. Like, I actually had a chance. And then he didn't pick a great picture of him. I guess he was trying to make dude look bad. And then he put jokes as the hashtag. She wrote back with loser behavior like this, not sure who you'd have a chance with. And they piled on, as they should have. And I thought it was corny, too, because. Because she's pregnant. It's her pregnant with her husband. Yeah, they having a great family moment. And you clowning that shit. That shit is so fucking corny.

[Joe Button]

I feel like I'm totally off in this, but I feel like a dude should be able to say, I could

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

have smashed, but maybe you can't.

[Corey]

But if you could, that don't matter. Yeah, but we're not saying it as a fucking fact.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but you verbalize it being a hater.

[Paul]

You're just my man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You verbalize it being a hater, so.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes.

[Corey]

So what are you talking about?

[Joe Button]

Yo?

[Queens Flip]

Hey, yo, that's like somebody saying that to your girl and she don't clap back, yo.

[Paul]

Like, no, yo, they not saying. Y' all could have hit it. They saying, yo, look at this mud ass. And based on this mud ass, I

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

could have hit it.

[Joe Button]

It's. You say this all the time.

[Corey]

Why are you on the opposite side?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You down with me in this? I'm not down.

[Queens Flip]

Stop, Joe.

[Joe Button]

I got a stomachache. Mine got a fever.

[Paul]

If I think I could pop, I don't think I could pop based on,

[Big Parks]

you know what I mean, who she's now.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, and that misses the point.

[Queens Flip]

If. If she.

[Big Freeze Ice]

If she's messing with dude over there and he's so different then you. Then maybe you don't. You miscalculated what she's on and what she into. Like, maybe.

[Joe Button]

Maybe everything that you and Ish are saying is absolutely correct.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I ain't saying that in response to all correct.

[Paul]

Okay?

[Corey]

I'm saying men should be able to live in a state of delusion. Like, don't strip me of my delusion.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You can live in it. But I think 24. A man, when you verbalize it, when you put it on a man, that should become corny. Now you. Now you just hating when you type

[Paul]

it and put it on a social media platform, or are you saying the

[Corey]

same thing that, you know, millions of other men are saying?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When you look at this, you're right. But the second you go like he said and type that out, you look like the goofball Corny hating for the group Chat.

[Queens Flip]

How many times you saw a girl with a. You're like, man, I could have like we with this tsl.

[Corey]

We just stripping men of our.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Of who?

[Corey]

Dude, we can't even have a dick no more.

[Queens Flip]

You never did that before. You said that you never looked at a situation. Say yo. Yeah. With that.

[Paul]

I learned that early on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's.

[Paul]

There's a little dusty that was. Had a girl that none of these.

[Queens Flip]

I know that money. Yep, yep, that's true.

[Paul]

All these with money couldn't touch that little Dusty. Driving a Chevette, was picking her up and nobody could touch her. So I learned that early on. It ain't about.

[Joe Button]

About that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And again, I was never on Tatiana Ali like this. But I do understand that Quinn men were.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she was black. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Word party.

[Queens Flip]

The shout out to him for making it happy. It did.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I was an early fan.

[Joe Button]

I know. I don't feel well. I'm about to just sit here and start saying a bunch of. We gotta just start. We gotta. We just be throwing black excellent. We just. I'm not saying that.

[Queens Flip]

But that's what we said.

[Joe Button]

You saying based off what?

[Paul]

When she was young.

[Joe Button]

Because she did the Fresh Prince when she was 10?

[Paul]

No, because she's excellent.

[Queens Flip]

She was.

[Corey]

She was asking.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She also just graduated from Harvard.

[Queens Flip]

She was.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

She was beautiful.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I mean, that's pretty rare.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She was beautiful.

[Paul]

She lived on that show for a very long time. She represented like an innocent.

[Joe Button]

What's she doing now?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know.

[Queens Flip]

She's living her life, Joe.

[Paul]

I don't know. But I've heard it's called worst Black excellence.

[Joe Button]

Who?

[Paul]

Paul.

[Queens Flip]

No, wait, hold on. That's not fair. That's not fish. That's not fish. Before all that came out. Consider him black Excellence based off of what he did in the industry.

[Paul]

That is the problem that we talking about. So we call somebody excellence.

[Corey]

They had done enough for it to not be questioned when any black person

[Joe Button]

called him Black Excellence. What are you talking about?

[Paul]

Yes and no.

[Joe Button]

What's he know?

[Paul]

Because the rumbling. Rumblings that his 30 year career had in excellence in entertainment and in music, those rumblings were also heard 30 years underground of the. That he potentially was doing and ignored that based on the accolades. So if we're gonna call somebody black excellence, we got to take everything that encompasses that. And we ignored the part that we didn't want to encompass.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but it was different when it's just rumbling versus fact. What are you talking about? I get you I'm with you.

[Paul]

But just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just being rumblings. It ain't like.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Ali was a child star who was one of the greatest sitcoms of all time, was on multiple other shows, made an album, actually hit the Billboard charts, all while going to Harvard University and graduating and continues to be a healthy adult with a stable family.

[Paul]

No, if that shit you want her

[Big Freeze Ice]

referred to as black excellence, I think that's.

[Queens Flip]

I'm with you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think that's pretty excellent. That's all.

[Joe Button]

I. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

As close as you gonna get to it. You say close, you gonna get. Ain't been no smart on her.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, like, what's wrong with you? Let him live. Let him live.

[Corey]

I didn't say anything.

[Joe Button]

I said.

[Corey]

I absolutely said enough.

[Joe Button]

No, y'.

[Big Parks]

All.

[Joe Button]

Y'.

[Paul]

All.

[Joe Button]

Y' all changed my mind. She went to Harvard. She. What else?

[Big Freeze Ice]

She did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, lots of.

[Queens Flip]

But he's right. You would want your daughter or your girl to. To have those. To walk that path.

[Joe Button]

That's true. All right, what else we got?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Look, she.

[Queens Flip]

She, she.

[Joe Button]

What else we got?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

I'm cool.

[Corey]

What else going on,

[Big Parks]

Joe? Want to hate on, bro. So.

[Corey]

Yeah, but no, because I agree with everything they're saying. I'm mature enough.

[Joe Button]

No, you can't do that. That's corny.

[Corey]

But on the flip side of that coin, I'm about to just ostracize homeboy for having a very normal dude thought.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We not as we not ostracizing him. Because again, like Mark said. Said that thought be in your group chat. That thought be amongst your things that

[Corey]

we used to mute the. You know, the things we used to say standing on the corner with your walk by. What are you talking about? We didn't run on the Internet and type it like there was no Internet. That's the point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Was saying. That's the point.

[Corey]

That is the point, Joe.

[Paul]

That's the point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You keep intentionally missing the point. We not saying don't think. Thinking we saying it's corny when you go and actually say it publicly or type it publicly.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's a blue. If you're a blue, check verified person on social media. You can't say the same. You say on our group chat. That's all. I'm with you. I say the same. I. I think that's.

[Corey]

You said the same for 40 minutes before this pod started. But then when the pod come on, I just said, y'. All. Oh, you blew that up. That looks nice. We know that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She loves him so much, but it ain't no like hypocrisy. Yeah, I will say that shit.

[Queens Flip]

Come on, Mark.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Talking to you, I can't believe it. But I'm not gonna tweet it. That's the part that's fucked up. Cause now we embarrassing the ball for no reason. That's what I'm saying, bro.

[Corey]

I ain't friends with this nigga.

[Queens Flip]

You believe in crime.

[Corey]

What the fuck is we.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's not embarrassing if he don't know. Flip if I say to you, yo, my man over there. Damn, who she with? We outside. That's different than me tweeting it. I see what you say.

[Corey]

Nah, if a nigga say that, then we gotta step. Then we gotta upload a better picture. We gotta upload a better picture.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's not that bad. And he's not that bad. He's a nice looking guy. He's a nice guy. And look, he's doing his thing. Let them be happy. I agree with you.

[Big Parks]

So it was a bad pick.

[Queens Flip]

It was a bad pick, definitely.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But he's finer than that. Yo, that's.

[Big Parks]

Let's unpack, dudes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's fine.

[Corey]

That's why Ish want to big him up because he look like homeless.

[Joe Button]

Ish.

[Corey]

He's like, homelessness.

[Queens Flip]

What is wrong with you, yo?

[Corey]

Yo, what else?

[Joe Button]

What else needs our attention? And lies.

[Queens Flip]

Hey, you know what's so crazy? Real quick, in closing, like, y' all gotta stop doing that though, too. All three of y' all niggas doing what? Not you. Two of y' all niggas are very critical of people. Nigga, you're critical. So then now when another nigga being critical, y' all wanna stand on this high?

[Corey]

We not critical.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, it's wrong. Don't give a fuck if he typing, nigga. Y' all do the same. Same thing. You talk the most shit on here. What you mean you're critical of.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not critical of people.

[Corey]

How they look.

[Queens Flip]

It don't matter.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm next to you every day.

[Queens Flip]

Critical to. Yeah, I'm that. I'm that. Don't be in love. I'm in love, too.

[Corey]

But we married. We all married.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I just like.

[Queens Flip]

I watch this with your wife. I think that shit is fly.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Thank you for watching in this thing together on Patreon.

[Queens Flip]

I think it's dope.

[Big Parks]

Hey, Flip, did you.

[Queens Flip]

She got you in check?

[Big Parks]

Did you find the breast surgeon that you were looking.

[Paul]

Looking for?

[Queens Flip]

Yo, don't do that part. She was in my dm.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, you looking for a breast surgery?

[Queens Flip]

Yo, stop, cuz. It was supposed to be a joke.

[Corey]

Why you?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I know somebody can take them things

[Corey]

to nah next level, get you to

[Big Freeze Ice]

a nice seat cover.

[Queens Flip]

Just try to look at some like that.

[Paul]

Yo, what your tattoos gonna do once

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you get your surgery?

[Queens Flip]

I'm removing my tattoos. I'm about to remove them shits. Some hit me up and said, he did this years ago and I didn't pay him.

[Big Parks]

Are you removing the tattoo?

[Queens Flip]

You shouldn't have paid.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Let me see.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, when I was younger, you should have been.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, yeah, you definitely me holding the world.

[Queens Flip]

He said, yo, you ain't paid me. I'm like, what? I told my team. Ignore that.

[Big Parks]

So were you trying to get a set or get rid of a set?

[Queens Flip]

I was trying to get somebody a set.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Queens Flip]

To see if that, you know, if my. I had pulled.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm sorry, hold on. You.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I think you should follow up.

[Queens Flip]

Nothing has to be inappropriate. Listen, there's titties is kind of inappropriate. There was something that was said in a rap. You do things for promotion. I think Remy said that about Clarissa. Correct. Or whoever.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

We were having a conversation, making a joke, and I'm saying, yo, let me see if I could get some titties for promo. That's all it was. It was a joke. Oh, period.

[Paul]

That's it.

[Queens Flip]

And I'm not gonna promote it. Yeah, of course it did. Queens flip. I'm not doing the commercial.

[Big Parks]

I can't wait to see the results.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Sure.

[Big Parks]

I'm sure you'll put it on the gotcha.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Paul]

How much you had to pay?

[Queens Flip]

Oh, check my nothing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got titties for the free.

[Queens Flip]

Can you tell them.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Stop?

[Joe Button]

I'm not talking again until we get a topic.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm cool. We got a topic. Can we talk about Mr. Tenderism's meat?

[Big Parks]

Oh, my God.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I've been thinking about it all day.

[Joe Button]

We're done with this Tatiana topic.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hate you.

[Corey]

No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think this is more your area. You've been tracking the story. I mean.

[Corey]

I mean, Mr. Tendonism. Mr. Tendonism is the older black guy from the.

[Joe Button]

From the Smoke the barbecue restaurant out there in la. Right?

[Corey]

And he split up with the white guy.

[Joe Button]

Cause there was all types of fights over trademarks and licensing and likeness. So the Internet has been having a good time. Because since this older black man got away from this white dude, the meat

[Big Parks]

don't look the same.

[Joe Button]

They both are struggling. They both seem lost in the universe.

[Big Parks]

So they got the best meat together.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They need each other.

[Big Parks]

When their meats combined I got it.

[Joe Button]

So Mr. Tendonism has been. Show has been popping up to. He's been doing private caterings.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

In big crowds.

[Big Parks]

I saw him cooking a stove and that. It didn't look like the best meat.

[Joe Button]

He was at Ronald Isley's house. He moved and shaking out there. You know, black people, we got to get behind our own, support him and. And support him. But this time when he was in front of the crowd trying to do the tendonism, the meat wouldn't fall off the bone like it was stuck on the bone. They kept trying to do it like it wasn't.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah. And then he had to put his finger on it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And then he grabbed the other hand.

[Corey]

It looked bad.

[Joe Button]

It looked bad.

[Corey]

And homeboy, the white dude is now selling chicken. He gave up.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Yeah, he gave up. He's selling chicken.

[Queens Flip]

Tender chicken. Yeah, it's juicy. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. Do you feel like they need each other?

[Joe Button]

I mean, I'm not in real life. No. I don't ever feel like a black man needs a white man in real life.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Let's remove that part.

[Joe Button]

But on the pod.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah. They should go find each other. Yeah, they should go find each other.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He definitely needs some marketing because part of it, the meat was cold.

[Big Parks]

Well, if the meat's not warm enough, it's not gonna.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's gonna be limp.

[Big Parks]

You gotta put it back in for a little bit sometimes. Yeah, sometimes it'll come off the bone a little bit better. Just doing this is not going to get it done.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Trust me.

[Paul]

Especially when cold.

[Big Parks]

Especially when scout.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all are disgusting. Disgusting.

[Big Parks]

We're talking about meat.

[Queens Flip]

But, yeah, that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That. He was having a rough time.

[Paul]

Like, my thing is. Why do you put it out?

[Queens Flip]

I don't think he put it out.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Somebody recorded it.

[Paul]

Got you, got you, got you, got you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It was a bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He was trying to of, like, audible through it, but the defense ready to play.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Damn.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He need to come up with something.

[Queens Flip]

Y' all did all that to get that man away from the white man. Let's talk about it. Y' all did all of that. Yo, hey.

[Paul]

Copyrighted.

[Queens Flip]

Y' all niggas playing lawyers online. I did all of that just to turn around and make fun of the old man. Yo, you could never please people. I don't like that shit. I saw it too, and I said the same thing. But reading the comments, it's an insult. I thought it was nasty and tacky. Y' all did all of that. The white man was doing it. He did A podcast. Yo, this is my man. He holding me down. A lot of you know, black power. No disrespect. Shout out to my adoles. And fba, no disrespect to y'. All. People did it. Y' all came out, and y' all rallied for this man with no backup plan. Y' all rallied for him, got in his ear, and he made a move. Yo, you stealing from me.

[Vlad]

Cool.

[Queens Flip]

Now look at this. Now he put out the. That's not tender. And now we make fun of him.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I ain't saying this meat ain't tinder. I'm just saying it didn't look the presentation.

[Queens Flip]

All right. But the still made fun of him. Am I right or wrong?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Some people did. No, I. I'm with you. We shouldn't make fun of him.

[Queens Flip]

And that's up. It is.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We should support him, but we also need to call him out and say, bro, you need to do better. Oh. You know what I'm saying? We need to support his business. I want him to. I want him to thrive. But you can't thrive.

[Queens Flip]

Do you not feel.

[Corey]

Let me ask you a question.

[Joe Button]

Do you not feel the rich righteousness?

[Queens Flip]

Do you not feel like the white man that was doing it?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not being righteous. I'm saying let's support the brother.

[Queens Flip]

I'm saying we put the guy out there on his own. I mean, there's a guy. Shout out to the guy that's supporting. There's a guy that gave him a food truck and stuff.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

But people basically put him on his own. They remove. Get out of here. So now you probably don't have access to the same things that he once had access to, or he doesn't. He didn't decide to go purchase a

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

location to do the thing the right way. One thing, though. If your whole brand is based on you making the meat fall off the bone, and now in your demonstrations, you can't make the meat fall off the bone alone. People are gonna make jokes about that, bro. That's just gonna come with it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We should support them, too, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You can support them. It ain't like they saying, boycott them. Don't use them no more.

[Paul]

But if.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If your whole is, hey, look, watch this. And if you do it and your one trick don't work no more, but you're playing.

[Queens Flip]

You're making it basically seem like the tenderism thing is a fluke.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what I mean.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There was rumors of that before, but

[Big Freeze Ice]

that's a whole different thing. I don't think it was. I think he just. I think he did.

[Queens Flip]

I read it. I saw it. No, no, he did.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm saying. I'm saying I don't think it was a fluke. I'm saying. I'm saying that I just. I think. I think he's a good businessman or a good cook who made a bad. Had a bad day, bad batch. But you gonna get these jokes. I mean, you just.

[Joe Button]

There were rumors that even when he

[Corey]

was with the white dude, they were actually.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They was cutting it first.

[Joe Button]

Cutting the meat. And looking at both of them now, you think.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You think that's what it was.

[Joe Button]

It gives credence to it, is all I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And maybe the white dude had the idea, let's do this, so that when we record it, it looks a certain way. And it always did look that way. But whatever happened, it looked a certain way. It worked every time. It was the. Oh, look, he did it again. Slapped the table.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The whole.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The whole shtick. He had. If now I get away from you and I'm doing things on my own and we see videos and the meat not falling off the bone.

[Queens Flip]

I know we don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying they did, but that worked. There were rules.

[Joe Button]

Mr. Tendonism knew it then. I don't know what's stopping him from cutting it before he brings out razors.

[Paul]

Like, I don't understand.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I actually literally think the meat was cold.

[Mary J. Blige]

It.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And it was. I. I think he did the same.

[Queens Flip]

He did it outside.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I think he's had a bad day, a prison bad presentation.

[Corey]

He'll learn.

[Queens Flip]

Look, look.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, he'll learn from it. Good. Shout out to him. Good luck. Good luck to him.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, you're not speaking for the black man no more.

[Joe Button]

Black people love. Love you down and support you. But yes, the love would. It can leave.

[Queens Flip]

It can leave at least fast, though.

[Joe Button]

You stop being able to do what we found love with you for.

[Queens Flip]

Why we like that, though? That's leave fast, yo.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's everybody don't just like people by.

[Queens Flip]

Humans are like that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No, that's not true.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You think. You think white people are more loyal.

[Joe Button]

I think that white people, when they hate you for 800 years, they. It stays around.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They hate. Yes, I'm saying love. I'm saying white people. White people, I'm saying they don't change their mind. No, they definitely don't change their mind about that. I'm saying a few popular people, America, they fall in love with you and then Once you stop being useful to people, they get rid of you, man.

[Queens Flip]

The lead Jones. They still celebrate Billy Real Joe. Billy Joe still got that play the album.

[Big Parks]

Slaps are still slapping.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Uptown Girl still go.

[Joe Button]

Billy Joe should be celebrated. My dad has been calling me all week to curse me out about my BB Kings commentary.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I told you that was going.

[Joe Button]

To go harder. We can't talk about B.B. king, Tiana, Ali's husband, or whoever professor at Stanford University. That don't do nothing in the dropout world.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm just saying, you call them homies.

[Corey]

He keep dropping these shits like the dropout world don't wanna hear that shit. Stanford nigga, mute up. What we on?

[Joe Button]

What we on? What we are.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Is it weird I saw this on the Internet and then I actually asked some of my homies who actually do it too. Is it weird to get a hotel for your kid on prom night?

[Joe Button]

I saw that going around. Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And I asked some people about my husband. I was like, yeah, I did it for my daughter. No, a couple people told me that.

[Queens Flip]

Wait, wait. What you get in a hotel for?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, cuz, you know what happens after prom night?

[Corey]

That's.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's a good question.

[Queens Flip]

You got your mind. I'm from Princess. You want to go where? Get your ass in this house.

[Joe Button]

Well, there's a.

[Queens Flip]

There's a what?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a double standard in there. Are do it for they son.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Would you let J get the hotel room overnight?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I believe in. I don't care.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm just saying I'm not changing.

[Queens Flip]

I don't give a what society say, yo. Hey, I believe in stubborn standards. Yo, my son could do a thousand more shit than my daughter can do. I don't give a fuck, period. Nigga, my daughter's my princess. That's my heart. I want her to be pure. In my mind, nigga, I want my son to be pure. But I know boys go out there as a troubled youth and give trouble. I want my daughter out there. I'm not getting my daughter.

[Joe Button]

No, fucking girls go out there too now.

[Queens Flip]

I know, but I don't want it to be my daughter. Even though it may be my bad,

[Joe Button]

it probably won't be.

[Queens Flip]

I don't want. So give me. Give me a second. No, no, no, no. Let me talk to you real quick. See the problem? You do that a lot. And I'm gonna let she condescending and dismissive. I'm gonna let them. No, that's okay. Cause I'm being dismissive and arrogant too. To the People that decide to allow their daughter to go in the hotel. So if I condition, I should be able to take it. But let me tell you something. Be very, very careful. Talking about my princess.

[Joe Button]

I would never.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Please.

[Joe Button]

I would never. All right.

[Queens Flip]

Be very careful.

[Joe Button]

I don't wanna smoke.

[Queens Flip]

I love my daughter. You just don't wanna picture that. That's it.

[Joe Button]

Well, you ain't gotta picture it.

[Queens Flip]

No, you don't wanna condone. I smack the fire out y'.

[Big Freeze Ice]

All.

[Queens Flip]

Are you fucking nuts?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I love doing this part in a

[Joe Button]

room full of girl dads. I do. It's one of my favorite things. It's one of my favorite things in the world.

[Queens Flip]

You wouldn't do that, would you do

[Big Freeze Ice]

it if you had a son?

[Paul]

Yes, I could possibly do it.

[Corey]

Yo, where do y' all want y'

[Joe Button]

all daughters to get laid at, yo?

[Corey]

Yo, I'm asking.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Why is that funny? Why they write it on the board?

[Paul]

Nobody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't.

[Joe Button]

We know.

[Paul]

We want to be one and oblivious to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't want to think about it. We don't want to plan.

[Queens Flip]

You want to have your daughter in

[Big Freeze Ice]

your mind delusion, yo, see, now you playing too much.

[Queens Flip]

For real, Joe. That's how it go.

[Joe Button]

That is how.

[Queens Flip]

And if you have a daughter, you. You'll see. You'll see.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm not. I'm.

[Queens Flip]

I'm done a lot of that. Lex, do you a. That's my man Lex.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He.

[Corey]

I'm.

[Joe Button]

I'm getting Lex hotel. I'm getting. When Jimmy get a little old.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Older.

[Joe Button]

I'm getting my sister hotel. No, you're not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you're not.

[Queens Flip]

You're not getting your sister hotel.

[Joe Button]

I'm telling y' all who I am versus who y' all are.

[Corey]

Okay? It's all right.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

It's different. I believe that a parent should be involved, or older brother in this case, but should be involved son or daughter. And those first steps, first, second and third steps into that world. I don't want no baby of mine or sister or sibling of mine just going out there on their own accord. No more money behind dumpsters. We know how kids are is all I'm saying.

[Corey]

So I. I would want to be

[Joe Button]

a part of that.

[Queens Flip]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

I don't apply to. I don't subscribe to the double standard thing.

[Paul]

I. I see. I see both sides.

[Queens Flip]

I see both sides.

[Corey]

And you're gonna know when you. And you're gonna know when your child,

[Joe Button]

not your all child, they come talking.

[Corey]

When they come walking in with that different walk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Shut up.

[Corey]

They dressing different.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

They popping at you. Mute up.

[Paul]

Pop.

[Corey]

Then the boyfriend come in, give you the fist buff. Oh, you know, when the. When it starts to happen is all I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

Hey, yo, listen real quick. My daughter has a boyfriend. And. And I. I invite him.

[Big Freeze Ice]

How old is he?

[Queens Flip]

Same age.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Good.

[Queens Flip]

My daughter about to be 17, so. He's 17.

[Joe Button]

Your daughter's 17?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, princess. Yo, so I hate to break it to you. Wait, hold on.

[Big Freeze Ice]

17? What? What?

[Queens Flip]

You hate the break? You think that he broke my daughter? Oh, I'm just saying, you know, you ignorant. You know, you. You being who you are.

[Corey]

How.

[Joe Button]

How was you when you started?

[Queens Flip]

I was young. I 16, 15. Turning 16. You being who you are with a big platform, you know what I'm saying? Have such ignorant takes sometime. Shut the up.

[Joe Button]

That's how this platform got big.

[Queens Flip]

I wasn't here when it got big.

[Corey]

I came here when it got bigger.

[Joe Button]

When you came.

[Queens Flip]

I don't want to talk about.

[Big Parks]

Hold up.

[Joe Button]

Stop playing.

[Queens Flip]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You try to. You try to call me, calm me down.

[Corey]

Go ahead.

[Queens Flip]

My daughter has a boyfriend. You know, he came over and stuff like that. And my daughter wanted to go somewhere. And in my head, I'm like. I'm telling her that, yo, it's very important for me to know where you're going.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know you want to live your

[Queens Flip]

life, but it's important. Cause I have to protect you. And her thing is that, yo, daddy, you should trust me and know that I'm able to make the right decisions. My thing is that that's the fucking shit that y' all say when y' all about to do some bullshit. Cause I used to say that, right?

[Corey]

You already did some bullshit.

[Queens Flip]

Hold on. But I was very honest at how Mother Linky was there, and she agreed with my daughter. So I said, let's agree to disagree. I don't mind. I'd rather him come. Let me meet him. And he's been around. Very nice kid, but I'm not with none of that shit.

[Big Parks]

Flip. We knew what it was like, the girls with the protective families.

[Queens Flip]

I know. And that's why I've been trying to loosen up a little bit. But I'm watching my daughter. I love my daughter.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, guess what?

[Queens Flip]

I love my children.

[Paul]

It's like, for the girls that didn't have to protect the families neither.

[Queens Flip]

Let's go. Ish.

[Big Parks]

Okay, but there's a in between where you don't let them run rampant. But, like, you know that they're a.

[Queens Flip]

But the ones with the protective family we know when the father was tough like that and he catch y', all, you know, with some problems. She will go above and beyond. Nigga go above. If that's how you want to do it. Go. I do want that relationship so I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle. I'm be honest Paul.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, you should be.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I'm.

[Big Parks]

You should be in the middle.

[Queens Flip]

Cause I don't want her to go up not to trust me. I don't know why the you doing that while I'm talking about my daughter. Nigga. Yo, stop, stop. Bro, some about our kids, bro.

[Big Parks]

Listen to some Missy.

[Queens Flip]

I play play Missy.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She came.

[Joe Button]

I'mma violate this, y'.

[Corey]

All. Yeah, don't cut the Missy on.

[Joe Button]

I'm trying have some fun in here.

[Big Freeze Ice]

This is amaz.

[Queens Flip]

I'm texting my family.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you know

[Corey]

you know it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought you might as well get your freak on.

[Corey]

No, I think that that would be just too much.

[Joe Button]

That would be a little too much. That would be hotel room.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But. But I It wouldn't be. I wouldn't do it my hotel room for none of my kids even if.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Son, son.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I'm doing just because I'll be worried about reckless happening in the hotel.

[Queens Flip]

Little Malcolm turn up. Hello. Little Malcolm had the iron and an uproar. Lil Malcolm. That's my man too.

[Corey]

Like the reckless will be happening.

[Queens Flip]

Who you trying to say? Trying to play with kids.

[Corey]

Boy.

[Queens Flip]

What you trying to say? The you trying to say about Lil Malcolm? I you up for Lil Malcolm?

[Corey]

Oh, I wasn't talking he wasn't talking about Malcolm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't talking about Malcolm.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I. I assume that they're going to have.

[Corey]

He's a girl.

[Joe Button]

Dad know I got you.

[Queens Flip]

She came later on. Hold on. Yo.

[Corey]

Let me.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Let me.

[Queens Flip]

Respect me.

[Joe Button]

Follow me.

[Queens Flip]

Fall to me.

[Corey]

You can't get mad if he shoots after the reckless happen.

[Queens Flip]

He shoot at me all the time. You have. He has. He has a daughter, right? That two.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Palmy palm. Look at that good skinned boy guy right there. Boy.

[Queens Flip]

He ain't playing with his kids.

[Corey]

Yeah, let me shut up while I end up with a girl.

[Queens Flip]

You are you gonna end up with a girl.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It ain't no punishment.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to get clipped like you Send me this.

[Corey]

Send me the number.

[Joe Button]

I'm doing it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't doing it.

[Joe Button]

Send me the number.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll send them to you.

[Corey]

Send it right my way.

[Queens Flip]

Why you don't want another child. You Feel like. You feel like. Are you one of them people that feel like you don't want to be 50 and your child is young, you wouldn't be able to do certain things with your baby?

[Joe Button]

I just feel like the rest of my life I want it to be all about me, and.

[Corey]

I didn't.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But the front of your life, huh?

[Paul]

The front of your life was all about you.

[Joe Button]

That's not true.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's not trying to be funny. Let's go ahead.

[Joe Button]

The front of my life was not all about me.

[Corey]

Who was it?

[Joe Button]

Are you nuts? What are you talking about?

[Paul]

How.

[Queens Flip]

Okay, explain to him. Ish. No, I think. I think he made a good point. I'm dead ass.

[Big Parks]

Take your time.

[Paul]

No, like, I mean, for the most part since I've known you, you've been. Or you've been in relationships. But I'm talking about with regards to. As far as kids go and kids taking up a primary piece of your life. Like most people when they like especially marital couples like, yo, you start to literally forget yourself and your whole life be about your kids. Ballet, piano lessons, soccer practice, hockey, basketball, football, track. Like, so people that I know, like a lot of my friends.

[Big Parks]

He's taking the really long way to calling you something foul. I feel like.

[Paul]

I'm not doing that at all.

[Corey]

I think I know.

[Joe Button]

I think I know.

[Paul]

I'm saying that I think it's a common. Like a lot of my friends right now, I haven't gotten there. A lot of my friends, their whole entire existence is around aau. I came here and talked about my man. He got two daughters that play basketball. His wife will be in Buffalo, he'll be in Kansas. They whole entire life is wrapped around their kids. So now when you get to your 55, 56, now it's vacation time. Me and my wife and your kids are off at college. I'm saying for you especially because your son lived with his mom, something a lot of your life early on wasn't necessarily kid hectic.

[Joe Button]

Do you think? Do you think.

[Paul]

I'm not saying that at all. Because my life, My life is there until the last. My daughter, My small daughter's 3. My first daughter's 10. I haven't been prioritized in my daughter's life like that. So I'm not calling them nothing. I'm not even playing the game for the niggas on the Internet. I'm talking about don't do it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But when you get older, when you

[Paul]

get older, a lot of people really,

[Corey]

I ain't listen to, but it does sound like a talk, man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Be responsible.

[Paul]

No, when you start getting older, a lot of people are happy that they got older because their kids is older and in college, and they did it already. You get what I'm saying? So now it's like, yo, I'm on me time.

[Joe Button]

That's where I am. And it's a common misconception that the dad, the father that's fighting to be in his child's life, that his, his life is not all about his kid, and that's just inaccurate. You fighting to go to court. You fighting to get child support raised. You fighting to get a restraining order drop. You fighting both the parent and the kid. You want to be my kid? Want to be my kid? You only debut if you don't want to be with your kid at 45. My kid's grown. I could see Lex being grown in two seconds. I see it. I can see it. It's done. I'm rich. I did music.

[Corey]

I'm one.

[Joe Button]

It's me too. Time now.

[Corey]

Or I want some Nelly.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It don't work out that way.

[Joe Button]

All right. Watch them. It could watch this, depending on the people. Watch this.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And you don't be. Want to get nannies one? I'm going show you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I, I mean, I'm show you.

[Paul]

I, I, I like, I like. Yeah, I don't want.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't want no nanny.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. My life is slow. And I like it like that. Like, I like at this age, like doing all this this weekend, like swimming, karate, gymnastics.

[Paul]

I love that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I love that.

[Joe Button]

No, that's super fire. What about the other stuff?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't, I don't mind doctor's appointment, you know, I'll be like, I'm at the doctor six, eight.

[Queens Flip]

I don't give a. I mean, what

[Joe Button]

about when the pipe in school freeze last week?

[Big Freeze Ice]

What about when the school keep you right here with us?

[Joe Button]

That's a lot of fun, right?

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, last week it's not fun, but

[Joe Button]

really enjoy it, though.

[Queens Flip]

You know what it is?

[Big Freeze Ice]

You play basketball, right? You play basketball. You didn't love doing suicides, but you don't, you don't look back on it as being like the, that you, you hate. It's just some, that's part of the. It comes with it. You know what I mean? That's how I see the shitty part of parenting. There's some shitty parts, but to me, it's like running suicides after practice. You don't like it, but it's part

[Queens Flip]

of the taking your children to Activities is not the shitty part of parenting.

[Paul]

No, at all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Not to me.

[Queens Flip]

I'm not gonna let this Joe say that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, no, the shitty part is when the pipes versus school. You got to wake up before you even go to the hospital.

[Paul]

But like, that's last week. Central air went out of school. Remember that hot ass Tuesday we had? That was 100 degrees.

[Queens Flip]

Three days.

[Paul]

My daughter. Central Air went out at school. She on the second floor. It is part of the. You gotta do it.

[Queens Flip]

But you were still here. You ain't.

[Paul]

I didn't know until later on that day. And then they said for the rest of the week, it's no heat.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Haha.

[Paul]

Funny man. So again, that's a. That's a part of.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't know you left.

[Paul]

It's a part of the gig.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, y' all seen here Friday, when I had to get up and run off, I had a parent teacher conference.

[Joe Button]

I see what you're saying.

[Corey]

They go with it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hate this nigga's guts.

[Queens Flip]

I know why you do that, bro.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Like, he can't help it. He's the worst person ever.

[Joe Button]

No, I get it now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's terrible.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm serious. I do understand now. No, no greater joy, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All that fun.

[Joe Button]

Take it all anyway back to getting reckless with y'.

[Big Freeze Ice]

All, with your daughter.

[Joe Button]

They try to turn it sentimental.

[Corey]

Let's get back to. Come on. What else is important? What else important? What else did. Actually, what else did un important. The last.

[Big Parks]

Well, yesterday was 4:20. And to those that celebrate, Happy Holidays.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Which thing? Oh, the weed thing.

[Big Parks]

Weed thing. It's a weed thing.

[Joe Button]

Holiday.

[Big Parks]

It's a holiday.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Vandross's birthday. Oh, yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Happy birthday.

[Joe Button]

You didn't know?

[Big Parks]

I didn't know that either.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Oh. Anyway, there was a video going around of Wiz blowing his. His man a shotgun that seemed to

[Queens Flip]

had the Internet in uproar.

[Big Parks]

In. Indeed in uproar.

[Queens Flip]

His man was laying like this and Wiz went on top. It was, you know, I guess for the shotgun and his blowing smoke.

[Joe Button]

Sure. Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Do it again.

[Joe Button]

What you did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Show him how to do it.

[Queens Flip]

His man was like this. And Wiz went on top over his man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You lean back and then Joe show how he did.

[Queens Flip]

Hell no. No. But they were making fun of it, right?

[Big Parks]

They were.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

The shotgun is a little bit. It can look a little intimate.

[Paul]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Do y' all never shotgun or y' all too old to shotgun?

[Big Parks]

I'm way too old to shotgun.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay, but you did back in the day.

[Corey]

Back in the day.

[Big Parks]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

With dudes.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. And girls.

[Joe Button]

That didn't help it.

[Corey]

Bisexual shotgunner. And girl, she had a gun too. Fuck outta here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They go.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wait, you never shotgun?

[Paul]

Not with no

[Big Freeze Ice]

ice.

[Queens Flip]

He just rolled shotgun.

[Big Freeze Ice]

A nigga's got no ice heads.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, mister. Me too.

[Joe Button]

And that with no weed. Just blowing

[Big Freeze Ice]

all the pipes.

[Corey]

Oh, man.

[Joe Button]

Hookah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So what do you think, Parks?

[Big Parks]

I think it's part of weed spoken culture. But I do think at the age of past 25, you shouldn't be shotgunning with your. With your man.

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Big Parks]

It's a little too. It's too too.

[Corey]

Why? They mouths ain't so touch, but they're close. A beard hair might have got over there. Well, it has to be close for the shotgun to work.

[Joe Button]

But I mean, they didn't do it. Do it.

[Corey]

So before 25 and before we go on, I want to say that whiz is a different level of pothead.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, pothead is not good enough. Word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And his weed was.

[Corey]

He had really good.

[Big Parks]

I forgot about that weed. That was.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You don't see.

[Big Parks]

You don't even need to shotgun that much.

[Tatiana Ali]

Don't.

[Big Parks]

The second hand smoke will get it done.

[Joe Button]

But that ain't enough for Wiz and his man, cuz.

[Corey]

The shotgun of his weed. He's trying to kill somebody.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He was already asleep.

[Big Parks]

It looked.

[Paul]

I'm just gonna go ahead and give you a blunt.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But he was neck, right?

[Paul]

I'm not shotgunning no dude, bro.

[Joe Button]

Unless. What?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nothing.

[Paul]

Unless he dead on the ground. I gotta give him mouth to mouth. I'm trying to save my man's life. Outside of the. That nothing recreational is going to have my mouth.

[Big Parks]

No recreational. Mouth to mouth.

[Joe Button]

Say something else. I'll pass out right now.

[Paul]

It's so hard.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I wouldn't test him on that. What? I don't know if he would do it.

[Joe Button]

I don't think he knows how to do it. So I'm not passing out in front of him.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Do y' all know do mouth to mouth?

[Big Parks]

It's been a long time. Once upon a time we had to learn. Learn it. Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

How about you, Flip? No, no, we should learn that.

[Joe Button]

I know how to do it.

[Corey]

I just don't.

[Joe Button]

I've never been in a real life situation to see if, like if I.

[Paul]

You got certified.

[Joe Button]

If it works.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I've done it before. It's.

[Big Parks]

You had to give someone mouth.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I definitely look both ways.

[Corey]

See if someone's willing to do it.

[Big Parks]

How do you look?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you save him?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, he's blowing.

[Big Parks]

Is he still with us?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, he's still alive as far as I know that at the cult.

[Joe Button]

Amongst other things.

[Big Parks]

Wait, so you don't check in on the guy you mouth to mouthed.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's been 20 years. You saved us.

[Corey]

If I'm not checking on him, then

[Joe Button]

I'm not mouth to mouthing him.

[Paul]

He not a part of it no more.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It wasn't a cult situation somebody couldn't bring. You probably did a chess you did

[Queens Flip]

over there in Iraq or Iran or

[Big Freeze Ice]

one of them places America.

[Queens Flip]

Somebody cuz you know, you go off

[Big Freeze Ice]

for our people over if somebody is dying, you perform cpr. Everybody should know cpr.

[Paul]

That is true.

[Queens Flip]

All right.

[Joe Button]

That's all I do agree with that. Everybody should.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a good no and hottest one.

[Joe Button]

I tell you, I know God's sense of humor one day because I don't listen to nothing that that stewardish lady say before the plane take off, they going to put me in the exact position where I needed all that information that she just disseminated. I don't be listening.

[Paul]

I don't know how to take. You got to put your clip the.

[Big Parks]

I seen some on the plane the other day, they had a raft in the ceiling. I was like, I've never seen that before, but maybe I have and I just never paid attention to the lady.

[Corey]

My thing is if we need any

[Joe Button]

of this stuff, then death is on us.

[Corey]

Death. Death is time.

[Paul]

If I hit the water and need

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

the flotation device, yeah, I'm dying.

[Paul]

Pretty safe to say that 30,000 drop into the water might have got it done.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I got a stupid turbulence question to ask y' all that I seen on the Internet. What's up? You and your girl on the plane. You in the. In the three row.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

You in the middle, something nice.

[Corey]

You in the middle, something nice is

[Joe Button]

on the other side.

[Queens Flip]

She grabbed your hand.

[Joe Button]

She's not good with turbulence. When the turbulence begins to happen, she thinking she about to die, grabs onto your arm and puts her head on your shoulder like this. She's really afraid.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Damn, that's a lot.

[Joe Button]

I don't think so. If somebody's really afraid of turbulence, I don't think it's a lot what what happens in that situation for y'?

[Queens Flip]

All.

[Big Parks]

Give her a little pat.

[Joe Button]

You get.

[Queens Flip]

Oh.

[Joe Button]

What he was saying. Keep patting off. You okay?

[Big Parks]

All right.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

I'm comfort. I'll come for it.

[Joe Button]

Ice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Getting out of there.

[Queens Flip]

So you getting off you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, getting out of there.

[Queens Flip]

Ish.

[Corey]

Quick too.

[Big Parks]

I'm snitching.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I'm about to say, tell my girl.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep, I do turn.

[Paul]

Oh yeah. Tell my girl.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yo, you gotta do the turn for sure. She's on you like this. You go see.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So you don't push her off you,

[Big Parks]

but you make it clear.

[Paul]

Yeah. You don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you give her this arm.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, you snitching basically with my girl.

[Big Parks]

Now you gotta grab your girl's arm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Consoling my girl.

[Queens Flip]

Console.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Consoling my girl that up.

[Joe Button]

Consoling my girl.

[Big Parks]

Like I also don't feel well, you know you got to play in now, right?

[Joe Button]

Funny, that's. That's the exact reason I got banned from United. One of them times where I needed to be screamed. Cuz I fell asleep on somebody's shoulder.

[Big Parks]

I remember that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, I stay doing that. I made a lot of people uncomfortable on a stranger.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He wasn't awake.

[Paul]

Oh, you did tell us that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He told us.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I do that.

[Joe Button]

I think it's tricks now.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think people take that way too. Like it's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I do that a lot. You fall asleep on people.

[Tatiana Ali]

People,

[Big Parks]

they usually sleep on people up here.

[Paul]

Why would they do they not supposed

[Big Freeze Ice]

to take that seriously. They should. They have a right to feel away. But they shouldn't think. They shouldn't take it like I did it on purpose.

[Joe Button]

There should be some type of reasonable understanding of pull a little out.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They want to play passing out. I don't be thinking.

[Queens Flip]

No, hold on.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You right.

[Queens Flip]

They usually think that people are either intoxicated or drugged up. That's why they doing. Cuz they try to wake up you up and if you don't wake up and they come and they try to wake you up, then.

[Joe Button]

Something wrong?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I do that on am.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't. I didn't know that they could take you off the plane for being drunk.

[Joe Button]

You still on air train?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Y When I go from like Philly to D.C. it's the easiest fast seller.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Get you there quick.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Faster than the airport?

[Joe Button]

No, that's a fun train.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Or if you go up to Boston,

[Big Freeze Ice]

what do you do? You fly private to.

[Joe Button]

First of all is. I'm serious. That is a fun train.

[Paul]

So why you look at me with

[Corey]

that stupid smug look that you be

[Big Freeze Ice]

having Calling the pores be big time.

[Corey]

How trains ain't poor. I don't think trains is poor. Trains is flock. The fly.

[Joe Button]

Trains are fly.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

The seller. I'm not on the fly trains though.

[Joe Button]

Amtrak I ain't. I don't know.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's the only train.

[Paul]

It's just the one that's express.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's literally the only trade.

[Big Parks]

The regular AM track ain't the worst.

[Joe Button]

No, no, I believe you.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Cool?

[Joe Button]

Sure, that's cool.

[Big Parks]

You'll never know though.

[Corey]

I mean, I don't know if we

[Joe Button]

got a train somewhere.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got to get to DC if you

[Big Freeze Ice]

were affiliate to get to dc, how would you get there?

[Joe Button]

I would fly or drive.

[Paul]

Go to Newark and get on the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

United and drop my dumb ass off

[Paul]

at DCA like I do all the time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

By the time you did all of that, you would already.

[Paul]

No, you're not. And that's a whole horrible misconception. No, when I go to Newark airport, I got pre check, I go through. I don't be in the airport for hours.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Remember, I'm in Philly, I get on

[Paul]

my flight, I take my dumb ass to DCA and I get off. It don't take me the same amount of time that it takes to drive or to take the train.

[Joe Button]

If you taking an Amtrak, you let a shotgun some weed in your.

[Corey]

I'm the Amtrak.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just to pass the time,

[Paul]

one train got to do with another train.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Now I'm getting shishkabobs on the train because I want to take that.

[Corey]

Oh my God, they're being reckless with Mark.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Jesus.

[Big Parks]

Should have never gotten that hotel.

[Paul]

Al Jazeera office is about right by unc.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's in Foggy Bottom.

[Corey]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So, yeah, if I leave my. If I leave my house, it goes straight in Philly and go straight there. Yeah, I'm door to door and 22 hours.

[Queens Flip]

Well, Algeria joined us in Philly.

[Corey]

Every part of Philly.

[Joe Button]

Al J. Rose from Phil.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, no, I think the Al see, I he me up just now.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Tell me later, did y' all see my man?

[Queens Flip]

Well. Oh, why we didn't shout out Cardi B? She wrapped up her tour 70 million

[Corey]

and it looked amazing.

[Paul]

And it looked like the stage arena

[Queens Flip]

tour by female rapper Shout out to Cardi B. I just want to shout out,

[Big Freeze Ice]

shout out to her. I saw the video of her snapping on somebody when she was walking off the. She was basically saying she liked the way she was treated at venue.

[Big Parks]

I think it was Atlanta.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

State Farm Arena.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I love when people. I just love the fact that. And I don't know what happened there, but I just love the fact that she had the ability to walk off and do that. Like, I admire people who got that level of freedom where they could be like, I don't need this bag so, so bad that I'm gonna be treated like shit. I just respect that and liked it. And then she. And then she called him out on in public.

[Queens Flip]

Shout out to Cardi.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, shout out to Cardi B. Now, I was about to say to y' all soon.

[Joe Button]

Did you think she was leaving?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Nope.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Me either.

[Corey]

But being willing, but being able to call it out.

[Joe Button]

I understand what you're saying.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Cause I come out of that, and

[Joe Button]

she's not the first person to have a problem with somebody during that run. I know I'm somebody else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've seen a couple people popping out saying, yeah, State Farm Arena.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Specifically their employees there. They talk to you a certain way, they treat you a certain way. I saw people saying, like, you know, I'm down. You can't even get in the arena without a ticket. Like, they scan at the door and there's people's like, yo, I'm just trying to get to my seat down. Like, the show done started. We ran to grab drink something, and they hurry up, harass you. Yo, you got a ticket. It's like, I couldn't be in the building if I have a ticket.

[Paul]

Like, it's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's just been a lot of harassment. I've seen artists come out and say a couple things about dealing with them. It's just a thing there, apparently.

[Joe Button]

And I like Cardi B. Because I don't even think the disrespect was to her.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It wasn't. That's what I was.

[Corey]

She was just repping. She was just repping for her staff.

[Paul]

That's fine.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, that's fine.

[Joe Button]

Congratulations to Cardi B. Job well done. The tour looked great. I'll catch the second one. I'll catch the second one.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, they're going to run it back.

[Joe Button]

Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. So I'll be there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to success of this album and. And that tour. Now, they definitely going to run it back.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Did y' all see my man when he saw his wife or fiance, I guess, wife's wedding dress for the first time.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. But I can't say nothing publicly, though, about it. The out of here with these anyway.

[Queens Flip]

What did he do?

[Corey]

He cried.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Not quite. I think Joe probably got the footage.

[Joe Button]

I definitely have the footage of no allows. First of all, no allows is just, oh, he's just a corny ass. So when I see from him, you

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

know, everybody have been labeled him corny since he did that about. He is corny World champions and all of that. So. Ain't really been with him.

[Joe Button]

All right, let me give some. Let me give some. Give Some background here. He's about to see his wife for the first time. So he's facing that way. She's facing that way. He's about to about face and see his wife's dress for the first time. This.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay.

[Corey]

Oh, wow.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I didn't think you would go with the princess dress.

[Corey]

I. I didn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't see.

[Paul]

Perfect.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, this is good.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Dang. That's a train and we're supposed to spit a piston.

[Tatiana Ali]

No, we picked it up.

[Joe Button]

You said what?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nervous?

[Joe Button]

This audio isn't the greatest. But he doesn't look delighted at all. He said, how are we going to spin in this? Are we sticking to this?

[Corey]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Like the fake. The look on his face.

[Big Parks]

Are we sticking to. This is crazy.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, yeah. That's crazy.

[Queens Flip]

Who is this guy?

[Corey]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

Allows. Is the runners. Olympic track dude.

[Paul]

Track dude.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That didn't sound great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

How do you tell your wife that you don't like her dress?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't. You don't?

[Joe Button]

No. You say it before you pay for it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Well, he's like, you don't say nothing.

[Paul]

He saw it because he said, oh, we went to that. Like, he knew the name of the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

dress, but he might have thought she was doing.

[Paul]

He knew the style of the dress. He was like, oh, you went with the blah princess. Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She probably was describing types before. And then he actually saw it for the first time, so. Oh, you went with that one. I'm with you. But you can't do nothing about it. She's not changing the dress.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So telling somebody you don't like the most important dress in the most important day of their life, when it can't change, it's like, tell somebody you don't like they tattoo after they get. It's like, what's the point?

[Corey]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Just keep it pushing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't gonna make it better. Nothing you can say can make it better in that moment.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. And she's not. She's never gonna forget that. And that's gonna spoil the whole wedding.

[Paul]

And now the Internet has gotten a hold of it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So they rub it down.

[Paul]

They going to rub it down.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, she responded. I didn't see the response.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She saw the backlash and then she.

[Corey]

She.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She addressed it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What did she say?

[Tatiana Ali]

Just like this. I wouldn't say anything, but I felt as if this time I really need to say something. So let me paint the picture for what you guys did not see in that one minute video.

[Queens Flip]

Maybe she's Jamaican.

[Tatiana Ali]

Leading up to that wedding, all of my sisters Got denied for their visas. Sisters, nieces. My best friend. I don't know how many years we've been friends since. Since we were eight. She went to the embassy three times, did not get her visa. And it was just a lot emotionally going in because I wanted my family to be there.

[Big Parks]

That's horrible.

[Tatiana Ali]

So on the day of the wedding, my team got a bad news. Somebody that was supposed to deliver the first speech and be sitting in the front of my wedding did not show up.

[Joe Button]

Sheesh.

[Paul]

Damn.

[Tatiana Ali]

And you. So no. Was told like an hour before, like, hey, you know, somebody did not show up. And we didn't tell Janelle as yet. He said, tell her no so she can get to process it. They were like, no, we're going to tell her before the first look. So when she sees you, you know, she can cheer up, like, lift her spirit. So five minutes before walking out that door, I was told that this person did not show up. Went out there, basically holding back tears or whatever. And There was like 10 cameras around us. When I look to the side, my aunt was halfway passing out. So she was sitting outside just catching some air. And I'm there over stimulated, just tapping no one. The shoulder. So in that moment, that reaction that I got from Noah is exactly what I needed because he tried.

[Joe Button]

Oh, knock it off.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's Janelle Brownfield.

[Joe Button]

Stop it. Stop it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe Button]

And she. And she. Doing what a wife should do.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Holding down.

[Joe Button]

Cleaning it up. Yeah. So I'm not mad at her, but he looked nuts.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He looked nuts.

[Corey]

He did married people.

[Joe Button]

Tell me how this is supposed to go.

[Big Parks]

You're supposed to look excited and elated and thrilled and stunned and all. All of the big words for your wife in the dress.

[Joe Button]

Even if you're not.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Especially if you're not.

[Big Parks]

Especially if you're not. And not for nothing, if. If this is me and I'm Noah and we got this whole camera crew coming out.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

And all this up happens. Put them cameras in the truck. Phones and cameras in the truck. We are not filming shit. This day is up.

[Joe Button]

Yep.

[Queens Flip]

I agree with that.

[Big Parks]

I don't want my wife pictures for the rest of her life. Be in tears or an awkward situation like this because the visas got up. Absolutely not.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

I'm like, no, you got to do the wedding. You did too much.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. It's too hard to play.

[Joe Button]

Move it.

[Big Parks]

We're going to do something else later. At some point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. We still got to do it right

[Joe Button]

on some deck the out of here. I'm out of here. I'm blowing this mark. Same thing. You agree?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, I agree. 100,000.

[Queens Flip]

Here's my thing. I'm not judging him. I think that I. I would have. I agree. I might would have postponed it. I would have did something over there where the family is at in Jamaica. I would have tried to figure something out after. You know what I mean? Because if that is that important to you, you know. Yeah, I would have did that. I would have went to Jamaica and did something after. You know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You still would have had the service. And then we do something else over there.

[Queens Flip]

Cause you said how important to involve

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

your people and your family.

[Queens Flip]

That's an important thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hell yeah.

[Queens Flip]

People from the Caribbean like having people anywhere.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Anyway, we're gonna make the best of this. We're gonna turn up tonight. But the real wedding is now going to be in a month in Jamaica or wherever.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wherever they're from.

[Queens Flip]

Exactly.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

And no cameras that we're not gonna have all this sad on camera.

[Joe Button]

So even if you don't love your wife's dress and I do, so I'm lucky. Rim looked amazing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't about you at that moment.

[Joe Button]

You gotta as I'm sure your wife.

[Paul]

Yeah, I'm sure if this your person and you plan on spending the rest of your life with them, the dress ain't a big deal. You happy that you about to cross the threshold with that person?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. There's another girl that got married on the Internet and her outfit was rather revealing. They've been kicking her ass the whole time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Like very, very, very revealing. So the question became, what is appropriate? Appropriate at your wedding?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's no. I don't think you could. It's your wedding.

[Paul]

I think that's different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think there is. No. If you decide to have that level of a wedding and your turned up and you dressed it with however you want, that's your wedding. Can't nobody tell you what's appropriate at your way.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Facts.

[Paul]

I think your husband could have a say in that, in my opinion.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If he cool with it though.

[Paul]

Yeah, if he cool with it, then.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's your way.

[Paul]

It's your way.

[Joe Button]

People go to weddings specifically to talk, of course, for sure. And say bad about where you might have went wrong. So I agree. So yes, ideally, can't nobody say nothing about your wedding. That's your wedding. But them, when people go home, they talk about your wedding.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Just don't put it on Twitter.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Them. Let them talk about it and most likely be the single motherfucker.

[Paul]

Hey, where your wedding or the broke

[Big Parks]

they have shrimp typically like the person that you're marrying at least ideally hypothetical situation equation. You kind of look at things the same way. So she's gonna probably pick something that you like. Maybe the crowd don't like it or whatever, but if she wants to have her nipples out or whatever the she's doing that's his. So I know he's gonna like this, right?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Or just change whenever you tell him to change asap. I would do that.

[Big Parks]

I mean usually they have multiple dresses.

[Corey]

I was gonna say like I would

[Joe Button]

imagine there being more than one dress there on the.

[Paul]

On the website, I'm assuming because homeboy said oh you picked that. That one. As if there were others to have potentially chosen from.

[Big Parks]

I think my wife. I think REM bought three and then she had also dresses for the reception, another one for the after party and probably multiple of them too. So.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Your lasted two days though.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Facts big Parks. I know how long you think yours

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

will go so quick get your out of here. We got.

[Queens Flip]

So you looking forward to it? It's coming soon.

[Paul]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip.

[Queens Flip]

Freeze.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I said yes.

[Queens Flip]

Oh.

[Big Parks]

Ah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Why you tell there nothing to announce yet?

[Big Parks]

Well, no.

[Joe Button]

Do keep trying to force a marriage and engagement on me and Bre. Yeah. I do got to stop his closer than yours, right?

[Queens Flip]

Is your closer than his?

[Joe Button]

Well, I don't. I don't know. I wouldn't divulge it. Probably we close. We close to. That is for real. We probably get it done.

[Queens Flip]

He probably married already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mom just threw the h. She. She threw a little hint at me.

[Big Parks]

What she said excited.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, cuz we just celebrated our anniversary this weekend.

[Big Parks]

Happy anniversary.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Happy anniversary.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

What was the hint?

[Big Parks]

It's time.

[Paul]

Nah.

[Corey]

One of these.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Basically.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That ain't a hint.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no. Straight. She was straight up with it.

[Big Parks]

Like all his hand looks a little.

[Queens Flip]

How long we.

[Joe Button]

You know.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And she's like still no ring yet, huh?

[Corey]

Damn.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. That's not a hit direct.

[Queens Flip]

That's an missile this year I'll be married 18 years, yo. You know what I'm saying? So I. I asked my wife, I said you going to leave me when. When we. When it's 20 years. And she said I might do it sooner. I said all right, you gonna wait till 20? But it felt good. I was chopping it up. Whatever we was talking about.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Have all 18 years been equally good or is there like a period of the 18 that's better than others.

[Joe Button]

That's a good question.

[Paul]

That one.

[Corey]

C. All the above.

[Queens Flip]

I mean, there's a lot of ups and downs in marriage. I mean, you just gotta give the respect to the people that stick through it. And I wouldn't listen. I speak for my ignorance.

[Joe Button]

Take your turn.

[Queens Flip]

Speak from a. No, shut the fuck up. I speak from a privilege.

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's all right.

[Queens Flip]

I speak from a privilege perspective because I wouldn't tell him, if you're not happy, you should leave. You know, I mean, sometimes you got to stick it out. But if you're not happy, you should do what's best for you. But it's good when you able to overcome a lot of issues and still be married, you know, and happy. So true.

[Joe Button]

Got it, man.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All I said was like, yo, what

[Queens Flip]

the are you doing? Yo, this is why them say that when I. When I start to open up about my. About me being married, about my life, it's always some type of joke. Cause you said a. My daughter's boyfriend is smashing her. Like you just saying a bunch of. You implied that. You implied that.

[Joe Button]

You implied it.

[Queens Flip]

I'll that up right now, today.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I thought you like smashing.

[Queens Flip]

I do, but he getting me tight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He ain't even do nothing. You get mad.

[Queens Flip]

He like, when do people start using overstimulators so much? Much like, I hate that word now. Like, I'm over stimulated. That's.

[JBP (Joe Button Podcast) Rapper]

They.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Queens Flip]

They go. Junior used it. I'm like, JR, shut up. You over stimulated? What? You a man. Yeah, I told him that. That I'm over stimulated.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, I got a headache.

[Queens Flip]

What are you talking about? Where the that word even came from?

[Joe Button]

It's.

[Big Parks]

It's one of the worst.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's one of them.

[Queens Flip]

Mark, can you please speak up for that? Get that word out of here. Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Six syllables.

[Paul]

That be a.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Got him in the cho. Man.

[Queens Flip]

Over stimulated. Don't have me in the street, Choco. Look, you be overstimulated all the time, right? You probably one of them that say that. Hey, honey, I just left the job. I was overstimulated today. I'm coming home now. You say that right. Ass. Watch your mouth. You talking.

[Paul]

I got dick, bro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even. I don't think I ever used that

[Paul]

word in my life.

[Queens Flip]

That word. Narcissist. Narcissism.

[Joe Button]

So y' all have any more thoughts on that? I know the story broke when we were getting out of here the other day about the Ice Spice fight. I know we do.

[Paul]

I have any thoughts on it.

[Joe Button]

Briefly covered It.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But you trying to say, like, I

[Paul]

don't think rumors that it was staged.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, I'm not.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying that I saw E.

[Big Parks]

I don't think it was staged.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think it was staged.

[Joe Button]

I don't think it was staged.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Some people would say, why would you.

[Joe Button]

Why would you stage it and not be able to fight in your staging?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Right. You win when you stage it. Like, I mean, like, you. You make yourself like the hero. People were saying we didn't cover it. Right. We didn't have all the information. Y' all have to understand that video came out as we were broadcasting in real time. We were watching the video and learning the details else as it was happening. So we got more insight now.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if I have any.

[Corey]

Well, the girl that.

[Joe Button]

The girl that attacked her came out with a bunch of lies. Well, let me not say that. A bunch of. I don't believe she tried to make it sound like, yo, I was a fan. I was over there. I was trying to be a fan, and she told me to get the out of here. So I'm like, hey, why you got

[Corey]

to be rude like that?

[Queens Flip]

But there was. There was another footage of Ice Spice being mean to people. She was by the boat. Somebody came down. She's like, yo, go over there.

[Big Parks]

Why thing got to do with the other.

[Queens Flip]

It's a. It shows a pattern. I mean, and if I'm sitting down eating, deserve that. But I'm just saying they're putting out videos and people coming out saying that she. How dismissive she is to them as fans, how mean she is, what they're saying. But I think it's corny as well.

[Paul]

But that's her prerogative. She don't have to be nice.

[Joe Button]

And now you got another prerogative.

[Paul]

Yeah. I'm just saying. But she don't have to be nice. That don't still mean that put your hands on nobody. I think that is corny. And I think that could have went way, way, way left.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Paul]

You know what I'm saying? This could have been another what if. What if Ice White's girlfriend had a poker and she jumped up and started poking the girl like. You know what I'm saying? Like, it. The could go way left. So I don't want to be an advocate and condoning. No, no.

[Joe Button]

Or.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Or what if old girl had something on her?

[Big Parks]

Yeah. It could have been all the way back.

[Paul]

That girl came over to Ice Spice. I. Spice girl, girlfriend is sitting there. So typically, for where we from? When you steal off on my man, it's my obligation to steal off on you. Let's say that girl had a knife on her and start poking that girl up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I will say, you know what I'm saying? They've hunting a homegirl from the Bronx, right?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The awareness was at like, a zero. Cause I'm like, oh, fam, the second somebody's there standing over you, something has

[Paul]

to kick in at that point. I used to feel like that when we first came on pod, right? When we first, first, first got on the pod, when people used to approach you, you immediately put your leg back.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You.

[Paul]

You do a whole bunch of. Right now I am more lax. Like, no doubt. I went. I would do some out the other day. I went home. I'm hungry as I went to go get some Popeyes. Yeah, I'm dogging the. In the. In the lot. The new Popeyes right there, dog. It and a came and knocked on my window, bro, and was like, yo. You know what I mean? Like, yo, I'm listening, yo. Usually I would have been locked in. That couldn't have happened to me years ago, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You wouldn't have sat there in the parking lot, right?

[Paul]

That wouldn't have happened to me years ago. Now, did you talk to him?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I'm like, I cracked the door.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm like, yo, thank you, dog.

[Paul]

I appreciate it. You know what I'm saying? But typically, my radar would have been way different.

[Big Parks]

Popeyes in the lockdown at midnight is crazy.

[Paul]

It wasn't midnight, but it was about 10:30. I was hopsing that shit too. But again, my old fish bowling.

[Corey]

The old me.

[Paul]

Yeah, the old me. I wouldn't.

[Big Parks]

I peeled off people.

[Paul]

Walk up to you. Walk up to me. Now I kind of am way more lax than when we first came on the show. So Ice Spice might be accustomed to people coming up to you talking.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I'm true. Ooh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But if you hit like the way

[Paul]

that conversation was went, I think it was too late. I think again, you accustomed to somebody

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

coming up to you.

[Big Parks]

I think the fan got out of pocket quick.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Parks]

I think the Ice Spice was. Maybe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe she was.

[Paul]

I don't know what she said. I don't know what she said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The fan got out of pocket fast as hell enough to where. All right, you too close to me getting out of pocket like that, right? Like I have to get up something.

[Paul]

She said, you know where you. I kept hearing her say, you know where you at? You know where you from? You know where you from or something like that. But I. I didn't hear. Hear what came before it, but I

[Big Freeze Ice]

just know that I maintain don't be eating in pop. In McDonald's. Yeah. I'm not blaming the victim.

[Joe Button]

She. She.

[Big Freeze Ice]

She didn't deserve none of that. But just as a word to the

[Big Parks]

wise, get that to go and don't maybe eat in the park or Popeyes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Park.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Don't eat Popeyes. Yeah, man, you can take it home.

[Paul]

I was star, man. I'm tentious.

[Joe Button]

Shit.

[Paul]

I was dogging that shit, too.

[Big Parks]

I mean, eat and drive.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm not doing that.

[Queens Flip]

She old now. He ain't drive. He might fucking run. Crash. He got a little too much. He might choke at this.

[Paul]

I wanted to enjoy my Y.

[Joe Button]

That was so.

[Queens Flip]

The parking lot is way to enjoy it. Sometimes you just want to be alone in ancient food, right?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Before you go home, I get that. That up.

[Paul]

No.

[Queens Flip]

Have you. Have you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I went home for.

[Big Freeze Ice]

How about what? How about what?

[Queens Flip]

Have you ever been alone and they, you know. Do you choose to be alone and eat food by yourself?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I. I almost always eat food alone.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, for real? Yeah. You don't eat at the table with the family?

[Big Freeze Ice]

No.

[Queens Flip]

Why not?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He learned from.

[Big Parks]

From you?

[Queens Flip]

Not even my family. Thanksgiving, Sundays, all the time. I believe in that. I believe. I believe in those traditions. To sit at the table, eat with your family.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I actually want to do more of that. We don't do it at all because. What do you do? Schedules and stuff.

[Queens Flip]

Huh? You eat your bed?

[Paul]

I eat when I eat, Paul. I. I don't have a schedule when I eat. I don't even have a schedule when I get home. So I just eat when I eat.

[Queens Flip]

And you say you do it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I like. I like to be alone, man. I love my family, but, like, I like to wait till everybody go to bed, pull out my food, watch. Pull out a video or a show and watch it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's taking his food.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We even have food.

[Paul]

That's what you did when you put that. That's what you did when you put that in the back.

[Queens Flip]

In the loom.

[Joe Button]

Yup, yup.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Y' all still telling that lie, man,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you stashed all that chicken.

[Queens Flip]

You trying to see somebody poisoning you? You gotta check the food and.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, man, I usually. I cook for myself a lot. So.

[Queens Flip]

Wait, hold the up. What? Here we go.

[Joe Button]

Still won't get a nanny this crazy.

[Queens Flip]

No, I'm not. Not.

[Corey]

Here we go.

[Queens Flip]

Like so not. Let me respect you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Well, you don't cook.

[Corey]

No, you go ahead.

[Queens Flip]

I'M not. I'm not playing. Do you cook? My wife cooks.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay, dope.

[Queens Flip]

My wife cooks. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Cook a lot.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm just saying at night I like to cook for myself. I like to make myself something sometimes

[Queens Flip]

less what you like? Yeah, got you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, but, but. But I also cook for my flip a Asshole.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, no, I'm not an asshole. Y' all doing that to get him started. Don't get this nigga started to say something stupid. I'm gonna get him. I got no problem. I'm saying that he chooses to cook and he cooks for myself. You cook for your family.

[Big Freeze Ice]

For myself. Or I'll do like a Uber eats at night. Cause sometimes my wife likes the healthy shit. And at 12 o' clock at night, I want the Popeyes. And they not gonna eat that shit. So I'll sneak to the door and get the Popeyes or cook something.

[Queens Flip]

His wife is professional, nigga. She's a doctor. She must eat healthy. Why the fuck y' all think that's funny?

[Paul]

Ain't nobody laugh.

[Queens Flip]

Nobody laugh.

[Corey]

Don't smirk.

[Queens Flip]

Don't smile, nigga. Nobody laughs smirking anyway.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Fight your own fair ones.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You seen the videos? Please.

[Queens Flip]

You've been trying to tag your man in all the time. You get approval from this. I don't need no proof of is who is. Is a from Jersey that know mad cause he scammed or whatever the he did. He boosted.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got.

[Corey]

I got a mattress for sale.

[Queens Flip]

That's how you know everybody. Hey, the truck, yo. You know the box truck with the white letters on it? Yo, that's me. Nobody know ish him. He is cool. But him though at the same time.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I got a serious story for us, unfortunately.

[Queens Flip]

What's up, baby?

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hate these stories, man. But in about what's about. There's an execution about to happen in Texas. Have y'. All. Have y' all heard about. So on April 30, he's scheduled to be executed. The crazy thing is his cousin who. Who was a co defendant has come forward and said, I did it. I shot the person. Please don't kill him. They're ignoring that, still going forward with the case and going to kill him. So people out there should write in or complain. But the reason why I mentioned on this show, because I know otherwise I wouldn't be mentioned on this show is because one of the reasons he was convicted was the prosecutors used his rap lyrics. He's a rapper and they used his rap lyrics against him. And they said that it was his rap lyrics demonstrated he didn't care about the law and that they predicted future crimes, that he. That we could look at his lyrics. That's crazy. So that's why we should. This audience and everybody here should care about this.

[Big Parks]

Is there a petition somewhere or we just write into the.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You can write the prosecutor's office. There's also petition online.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. So just check it out. But I just think it's crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the gentleman's name again?

[Big Freeze Ice]

James Broad. Next I'll send it out. And this is going to the Supreme Court. They're going to. I think this is going to go away to the Supreme Court. And again, this is a big deal because this is going to determine the future of other people who get rap lyrics. Because up here all the time we saying people shouldn't get their rap lyrics used against them. This case might end up being precedent that will set a precedent that they can or they can't. And this Supreme Court right now, as much as they pretend to care about free speech, because the right always says about liberty and free speech and all that this could be a moment where, when it's. When. When it's something at stake, they make a different decision.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So I'm just saying, y', all, this is a big moment. Not for. Just for this.

[Joe Button]

It is important. I signed the petition.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I know. You started it, didn't you?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Well, Kevin LS reached out to me about it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Got you.

[Joe Button]

So shout out to Kev. So some other rappers that signed the petition. So, yeah, it needs our support.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, for sure.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Support that. Just want to put that out there.

[Joe Button]

All right, well, let's stay on. Let's stay on sad stuff. Then let's talk about the. The fight in the UK and London between the two influencer women. Real UK versus Claudia Glam. Not familiar as of now. Now, as of now, details are fuzzy because some people are saying that Claudia's no longer with us. But the charges on Riel haven't been upgraded from attempted murder to murder. I want to be a little bit more responsible and wait until the family comes out to say the state of Claudia Glam.

[Big Parks]

What's the story? What's the backstory?

[Joe Button]

There's footage all over the Internet of a high end club in London. And outside of that club, there's a big fight going on.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

There's the real UK girl fighting, and she's fighting a bunch of other girls. All of the. All of the captions say that her and this Claudia Glam girl have a beef. But Claudia Glam is not fighting. In any of these clips.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Also, since then, Claudia Glam's friend has come out with some details. She says that this fight did not stem over a man. Like the Internet has been saying. This fight comes from years ago when Claudia unfollowed Riel. She also says that the real girl had quite a few enemies.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

So we don't know who was fighting her.

[Big Parks]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

There was just a lot of people fighting.

[Big Parks]

Some melee.

[Joe Button]

This girl. Yeah. And. And she was getting her ass beat. But again, I didn't see Claudia in any of this footage. It's a crowded street, though. Yeah. There's men everywhere. There's phones out.

[Big Parks]

They're recording, not breaking up.

[Joe Button]

At one point, Riel tries to get in her vehicle, but some bigger girl comes and slams her out of there, Drags her out. Melee continues. She eventually makes it to her car and presses on the gas and slams into a wall with. She slams into. Runs over Claudia. She hit a guy that was on the wall just trying to get his bike like. It's being reported that he has life changing injuries. From what I've read, he may have lost his foot. And there's somebody else that was hit, also with minor, minor injuries. But Claudia is said to be in a hospital on critical. Critical condition. This footage looks absolutely horrible. Nasty. I won't rush the judgment. Oh, the Internet has pulled up all of this real. Apparently the real girl has threatened Claudia before. And in the post it says, y' all keep bothering people with mental health issues until one day I can't take it and I do something about it. And I'm not going to go to jail. I'm going to go to a hospital not far from where you going to be at. Geez. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a really unfortunate, horrible, terrible story. One of my takeaways, one of my. One of the first things I noticed when I saw it was there's just too many bystanders around for this type of stuff to happen. There's too many men around. Right. It's too many men. Men around for women to just be left to fight in front of an upscale club for what seemed like more than five minutes.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Right. You know what I hate about it? Because I agree with everything you just

[Queens Flip]

said,

[Big Freeze Ice]

the social media part of it, Because I feel like there was a time where we would have just broke the fight up, but now everybody's making content. Everybody got their phone out, and instead of just stopping some dumb, we wouldn't sit there and watch women fight for five minutes, maybe 30 seconds, maybe. But at some point, you're gonna stop the shit, right?

[Paul]

Well, you watch it until it gets serious. Where somebody can be harmed or threatened. Like, even when we was kids, you. You when you little. No disrespect, but, you know, you'll want to see girls titty pop out or something. But if it looked like somebody's about to really be harmed, bro, men, boys were breaking that fight up.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Even as boys.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Breaking a fight up.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And now we just videotape it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I hate that.

[Paul]

Dudes be having their phones out.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. Literally, in this case, dudes had their phone.

[Paul]

They don't have their phone out.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Disgusting to me.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

It's sad all around the board.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I agree.

[Joe Button]

And that shit is just fast. It's fast. It's fast.

[Paul]

And five minutes.

[Joe Button]

Y'.

[Paul]

All Cost you the rest of your life.

[Queens Flip]

Exactly.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Rest of your life.

[Paul]

Either one way or. Or another.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And this is a tough case to defend because it ain't like the. I got scared and hit the button, hit the gas. It's like you turned.

[Queens Flip]

She turned.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. It's a lot of action in that video.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a lot of intent.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. But it did look like. And again, I'm not fighting the case for her, but it looked like the girl that was trying to get her out of the car, like, grabbed the wheel. I'm not saying she turned the wheel and did that. I'm just saying it was a little commotion over there. I mean, that dude does nothing for what I think about it. Because it wasn't your hands. It's your feet. You accelerate it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Accelerated on a vehicle.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

And it's nasty, man. It's nasty. Summer ain't even started yet, and every time I turn around, a young woman is just getting murdered.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's getting sad.

[Paul]

It's been several.

[Joe Button]

They could throw Shorty under the jail, though. I mean, after a trial. Yeah, of course, after a trial. But anytime you let a fight just go on. Go on, you raise the probability of everybody around being in danger. I don't think people realize that word. It was a super disturbing, super disturbing story, though.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. It's so many. I don't want to get into too more depressing stuff, but just two days ago, that Louisiana story that. That dude killed eight children, including seven of his own gunmen. You know, it's like. I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I. I can't even imagine what mindset you got to be in to do that or what kind of human being you have to be. To do that. But I'm just. I'm. I'm. I'm just overwhelmed by everything that's going on in the. In the media these days and all these stories of. Of harm.

[Joe Button]

Word.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You know, we gotta do something. Hopefully. Hopefully. I don't know what I'm saying. Hopefully it's not gonna happen. You would think at some point we'd be like, we gotta do something about these guns. We gotta do something about mental health and we gotta do something about guns.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And we ain't gonna do about either

[Big Parks]

because we've known about both for a long time and have done zilch.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Button]

So

[Big Freeze Ice]

joking you.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Get us up out of there, please.

[Big Parks]

There we.

[Joe Button]

Oh, sorry.

[Big Parks]

Hey, House. House version.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chipmunk version.

[Joe Button]

Stay safe out there, please. Word. Your life is important and I'm just tired of seeing death. Same on the timeline.

[Paul]

That's why I don't watch the news and things.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't fuck with the news. That should have depress you.

[Corey]

I.

[Tatiana Ali]

So excited.

[Corey]

Awkward pivot.

[Joe Button]

But Victor Wimana, the youngest player to ever be named defensive player of the year, also the only first and only unanimous decision.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Really?

[Joe Button]

All voted him unanimous? Yes. How could it not be? Who else they gonna vote for?

[Paul]

No, I'm saying I. I would have

[Joe Button]

thought that would have been before with the defensive player.

[Queens Flip]

That.

[Joe Button]

That. That would be weird.

[Paul]

Rodman, Dwight Howard.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But they always had 50 voters to.

[Joe Button]

To be united on one person thought that happened.

[Big Parks]

That's amazing, man.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to him for the next 15. That's his for the next 15.

[Big Freeze Ice]

If he stay healthy, the future is his, man.

[Joe Button]

Or if you just watch Timberwolves games in the playoffs and just look at Rudy Gobert.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

It's Wimpy. Wendy. Got it.

[Paul]

Got a point.

[Corey]

Also the sexy Dexy trade.

[Joe Button]

And any thoughts? The line. The Giants trade Dexter Lawrence to the Cincinnati Bengals for the 10th pick.

[Big Parks]

Depends on what they do in the draft.

[Joe Button]

In the draft, if they do what they.

[Big Parks]

People are speculating and they get Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs. That's a hell of a trade.

[Joe Button]

I don't. But I'm off the Sunny Styles train.

[Big Parks]

Really? Why?

[Joe Button]

I saw too much footage now.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I saw footage of him just chilling.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Now granted, in the footage that he's killing in, it looks like he's killing and his ceiling is high and he's a unit of a human.

[Big Parks]

So what do you want to go wide receiver?

[Joe Button]

Honestly, I named all the people I

[Corey]

want and any one of all of those people.

[Joe Button]

I just don't know about Sonny styles now at 5, 5 or 10, Jordan

[Corey]

Tyson might be rich for Jordan.

[Joe Button]

Tyson came back, had a great workout. Now everybody's on his dick.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

The draft is Thursday.

[Big Parks]

Can't wait.

[Joe Button]

The New York teams have 25% of the top 16 picks.

[Big Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Damn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

God damn.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Paul]

So I'll be glued for me. Yo. I just like proven people, like the proven dudes. Like when you were in the NFL, NBA, and you kicked ass and your track record is always something. Touch. I'm always down to take them before taking a draft pick if I have the option because they've already proven they could do it with the bright lights on.

[Big Parks]

True. The problem is the defensive tackle market has gotten really high and Dex deserves it because he's excellent.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

But that position, when you start paying a DT like $27 million, that's a lot.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Big Parks]

That's a lot. So it. And at 10 and 5, you're in a prime position to get a dope edge rusher or someone else that might make more of an impact than a defensive. Defensive tackle who's unhappy. He doesn't want to be there.

[Paul]

Yeah, he don't want to be there.

[Joe Button]

And that's why I'm not sweating it. He. He doesn't want to be there. He didn't want to be there. He was unhappy about how the contract negotiations went last season. He's coming off an injury. I still think he's him.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But I think harbor is going to find positional talent more so somewhere else.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

And I mean, that's a great trade for Cincinnati because their defense had been ass basically the entire time Burrow's been there. So.

[Joe Button]

Great statement. Great statement.

[Corey]

When? When? Now.

[Joe Button]

The team that notoriously doesn't want to pay or players, let alone defensive players, like, it sends a message to Joe Burrow, like, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at them.

[Paul]

They need a O line. That's what they need to spend the money they be on. They be on.

[Corey]

See, they do.

[Queens Flip]

They do.

[Big Parks]

And they, they do need a O line. But it's like a. A football team is a football team. Right, Right. So if they are not in 30 point shootouts with the other team, then Joe Burrow doesn't necessarily have to be running around scrambling, trying to make something happen.

[Paul]

No, I like that pick for them. I'm not opposed to it.

[Big Parks]

I'm just saying that, like, yeah, the offensive line, yeah, maybe they do need help. But if he doesn't have to try to be Superman in every play because their defense ain't doing shit for him. They might have a little. They might be able to get by.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it.

[Joe Button]

I'd like Caleb Downs at 5, assuming that Jeremiah Love is not there.

[Big Parks]

That's what I've been hearing going to y' all's love.

[Joe Button]

I'm hearing Love going to the Cardinals. And if not the Cardinals, for sure the Titans. And if not the Titans, then for sure, us. Yeah, I don't expect him to be on the board at 5, and I'm not mad at that.

[Big Parks]

He might be because I could also see someone trading out somewhere. I've heard the Cardinals trading down because I think they want Ty Simpson.

[Joe Button]

I've heard the Cowboys. I'm here. Want to trade up to get Sonny stepping.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So we'll see. The draft is Thursday. I can't wait. Finally. Finally.

[Big Parks]

I can't wait.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. One step closer to real football being played.

[Paul]

I'll call Jerry and let you know.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Another big news. It looks like Steve Kerr is out in Golden State.

[Paul]

I'm not mad at was time.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I mean, when I watched that last game where he pulled Draymond. Draymond. And Stephen said, you know, I don't know what. What's next, you know, after this, but, you know, I love you guys. Love, you know, playing with you guys, coaching you guys, I knew something was up.

[Big Parks]

Was he fired or.

[Paul]

We would never fire. Even if they wanted him out, they wouldn't fire.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And I don't think they want him out. I think. I think. I think he knows. Well, let me tell you this first. The announcement so far hasn't been officially

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

confirmed, but it's just. The announcement right now is just. He's likely to leave.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's based on it by all. I mean, everybody's reporting. That's what Sam's report. Everybody's reporting it. You're right. It's so. It's not 100% confirmed, but I suspect that by the time people hear this, it will have been confirmed or soon after. I think it's just. I think it ran its course.

[Big Parks]

You retire for him.

[Paul]

No, I don't think so.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think you take a maybe, maybe not. I think you take a year. I mean, Phil Jackson didn't retire. A lot of great coaches want one more. One more stab at it. I think he's had a great run.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think you take a year off, though. Two years off, like. Like your man in on the Steelers. Right. You take some time off. Maybe getting the Blue broadcast Booth. Mike Tomlin take some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he's taking Sunday Night Football.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

In Booth and Alanis.

[Paul]

Okay. Like, I think. I think when you watch their team, they're hard to watch now. Yeah, they are hard to watch now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think end of dynasty shit, though.

[Paul]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think sometimes they're the last to know. I watched both of those games. And if it takes Steph doing Steph Shit. Superman chick at this age for y' all to be competitive, it's a rap. I think that they just haven't done a really good job in replacing the talent either. Moody was good. He got hurt. Kaminga. They traded Kaminga for whatever reason. I heard. Different sides.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Paul]

But yeah, they just haven't done a good job to me at replacing them.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. They probably let the OGs overstay their welcome a little bit.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. Because you know when you get in that win now mode and you're like, okay, we'll bring Jimmy Butler on. Bring so and so on. We're going to win right, Right. Right now. If you don't win. Right. Right now.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. It's time to. Where does Steve Kerr rank all time for y'? All? Is. Is he like an elite top five coach? Elite top ten coach. Elite top 20 coach.

[Paul]

Not for me.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm just asking.

[Joe Button]

Not top five.

[Big Parks]

He might be top ten. 15.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He was named one of the 15 greatest coaches of all time, so it's.

[Big Parks]

He should be in that. I think.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

He won how many chips?

[Joe Button]

Wait, how many? He was named what?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Top greatest?

[Paul]

Top 15.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Top 15 coaches of all time.

[Big Parks]

I think he's definitely in that conversation.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not mad at.

[Paul]

I don't know about team.

[Joe Button]

Steve Kerr is better than Lenny Wilkins.

[Paul]

No.

[Big Freeze Ice]

See.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Paul]

No, I don't.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't think. I don't. I don't see.

[Paul]

Talent matters, bro.

[Joe Button]

Better than Don Nelson.

[Paul]

No.

[Joe Button]

Is Steve Kerr better than. What's my man on the Pacers that I like Never.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Rick Carlisle.

[Paul]

Don't even say Rick Carlisle. Don't even say it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Pacers slash Mavericks. Mavericks. It's tough because a lot of times these greatest conversations come down to champions championships. They don't come like, Lenny Wilkins is a great example. Lenny Wilkins had success in Seattle. Right. But he also took a lot of mediocre teams and made them better. Larry Brown, who I love as a coach, and he's one of my all time favorites, took teams up until almost like the last two or three years of his career, every team he went on had a. Did better the following year.

[Big Parks]

But Lenny Wilkins didn't. He took teams and made them better, but he didn't necessarily make them good

[Corey]

or great at least.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about after Sonics. Like he had a, very respectfully, he's a great coach. He had a very mediocre track record after, after the Sonics.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And that's where circumstance comes in for me. Just in the sense of if I put Lenny Wilkins, if I put Lenny Wilkins on that, on that Cavs team or if Lenny Wilkins, when he was in his prime, if he was the coach of that Chicago Bulls team, you know, instead of the Cavs and the Hawks, who he was coaching, who knows? So some of it is hard to

[Big Parks]

know because those Hawks teams were not talented.

[Big Freeze Ice]

They weren't.

[Paul]

And that casting was all right, they

[Big Parks]

were pretty good, but they weren't, but

[Big Freeze Ice]

they weren't the Celtics, they weren't the Bulls, they weren't the Pistons. I'm just saying, like I'm talking about

[Big Parks]

later than that a little bit.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Because they were better than the Celtics for a lot of that night.

[Paul]

Yeah, I, I think it's a unfair thing sometimes because like to some people's credit, Steve Kerr shouldn't get that much credit because Mark Jackson, because Mark Jackson created a team. Mark Jackson, Jackson drafted those players. Right. Mark Jackson got rid of some of the dead weight and bought these guys in.

[Big Parks]

Sure.

[Paul]

And then remember when Steve Kerr was out and they had Luke Walton and still. Yeah, they still got to the championship. Luke Walton got a head coach job just off the success of that team with no Steve Kerr. But I don't want to do that to Steve Kerr because sometimes it might not be about X's and O's, it's about how you motivate your players or the rapport that you have with your players. So I, I don't want to on him. What I will say is you could have taken a bunch of coaches and you gave them that roster and they would have made music with that. You put Rick Carlisle up there with Sean Livingston and Eagle Dolla and all of the supporting cast that they had at one point in time that was a all star team. So I, I, I don't think that he not a top 10 coach, but

[Joe Button]

he still, he did it for, with a few different teams.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, he did it number one.

[Joe Button]

Number two, I don't want to just assume that because a team has an all star lineup that any coach could come in there and coach.

[Big Parks]

We've seen, it's about reports because we've

[Big Freeze Ice]

seen it not happen right and also

[Big Parks]

with the Luke Walton thing, like, if I've been here coaching these team. This team for however many years, it's not like that different from when Joe was out for a month and the show was still a good show. Like, we already have a system that he helped build and set up and koshers through. I'm out for a month.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

The show can still go on.

[Joe Button]

What you said, I said.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But we can't do it long term. We could do that. We could cover you for a couple weeks. You can't do that for.

[Joe Button]

I'm watching.

[Big Freeze Ice]

No, I'm being serious. But we couldn't do that for six months.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. And.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And you see the difference when Luke Walton goes to the Lakers, right?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And it's like suddenly. And then he goes to the Kings after that. He's. I'm not saying he's a bad coach, but he's not that he's not a genius.

[Joe Button]

I don't think it's fair now that I'm listening to y' all talk. All right, y', all. Y'. All. Y' all did it. I don't think it's fair. Like, Steve Kerr is in rarefied air. I don't think it's fair to take him out of the class of coaches that have the caliber of player that he has. Right. Like Pat Riley is Pat Riley. Because look at the teams. It's. Eric Bolster had the heels. Like, there's some people that Phil Jackson

[Big Freeze Ice]

had Phil Jackson, I think.

[Joe Button]

I think Steve Kerr has to go in that pop. He has to be in that conversation.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Popovich is the only one who didn't inherit. I mean, if you think about Pat Riley inherited a great team.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

During the dying he did. I mean, Magic was already.

[Paul]

I know, but that's my point. Balancing egos is hard, for sure.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Balancing egos and getting them to beat to your drum, dog. Pat Riley used to be about to have feelings with niggas.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Because he was such a conditioning coach that he would make run till they threw up in garbage cans. So. So to get your stars to tie into that is a big thing.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I'm agreeing with you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Which one you think is harder from a coaching tip? Will it be managing or inheriting a team of stars and having to juggle those Eagles or building it from scratch?

[Paul]

I think the mental piece is the hardest. I think that to get Kobe and Shaq and all of those people to be on one accord with monster egos, to me is harder than teaching some willingness people X's and O's. That's what I think.

[Corey]

Agree.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Shout out to Steve Kerr. Great run.

[Paul]

Shout out to Steve and those guys.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And a great guy.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Word.

[Joe Button]

We didn't mention it. They. They charged David.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's no longer.

[Joe Button]

It's official. He's pleading not guilty. Does the death penalty is attached to this?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oof.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. That's a tough one. It is because they gonna give it to him if he. If he's found guilty.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. I'm not the biggest fan of the death penalty.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't believe in the death penalty. But I absolutely think that this is the kind of case that makes people want the death penalty.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I believe in the death penalty. Some. Some of these motherfuckers.

[Big Parks]

If it's 100 irrefutable, beyond a shadow

[Joe Button]

of doubt, some of these should die.

[Big Parks]

I understand. I understand.

[Paul]

I don't like it from murder.

[Queens Flip]

That's. That's the thing. Lately I've been having a conversation about, like, a lot of people believe in, like, even in the Caribbean. Been having that conversation. A lot of people believe that the bad men should be killed for the crimes that they do. Shot and killed by the polar. I think that's lack of respect for human life.

[Joe Button]

Me Charges against David. Let me just read the charges and you go ahead. Charges against David include continual sexual abuse of a child, murder, murder for financial gain, murder to prevent testimony, murder by lying in wait, use of a deadly weapon, and mutilation of human remains.

[Big Parks]

My sister always had a bumper sticker or something on her door as a. As a kid. She's a mark. It said, why do we kill people who kill people? To show that killing people are wrong. And it's always kind of stuck with me because it is kind of backwards.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's kind of backwards like my man. Not my man, but like dude down in Shreveport with them kids.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I would understand. Yeah.

[Corey]

I don't agree.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I'm saying, fam.

[Paul]

Some of these, you start with the kids.

[Joe Button]

You gotta go, hey, shout out to that homeboy.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yes. I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm just saying. But like in. In the instance. Like in an instance like that, let's say that person gets arrested. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

That you think you get.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Let's put him down.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You hit? Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I can't. I can't do it, man.

[Queens Flip]

Me neither.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That and it's not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Some is evil. I believe if some of these are just evil and ain't no rehabilitation. Some people, when you start with kids and certain like that, I don't think there is no rehabilitation for you. I don't think we need to spend all this taxpayer money on. Let's get this up out of here

[Queens Flip]

so that I know who you voted for.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I voted for Kamala. I'll tell you what I voted for.

[Paul]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not totally against ice. Some people have exhibited a track record of evil, bro. Like some, you kill somebody by mistake, it's a mistake. You kill somebody in the crime of passion or you got hot headed, whatever the case may be. That's the thing. It's some that have had a track record since they was 13, 14, 15 years old, put them in jail for

[Big Parks]

the rest of their life.

[Paul]

A different type of.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So now we paying the house.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But no.

[Paul]

But then when you go to jail, the killing don't stop. They killing motherfuckers in jail too.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So for me, I've always opposed the death penalty. For me, it's not a non violent position. And there's a world where I might be willing to say, hey, this person should be killed, right? I could imagine a world, but it's just not this world and it's not this society. For me, it's for three reasons. One, I don't think the United States has the moral authority to execute its citizens. I don't like. I remember after, after World War II, Germany said, We don't do the death penalty. They said, after what we've done to Jews, after what we've done in this society, we don't have the right to kill, to kill anybody. We don't have the moral authority to do so. I think the US has no more moral authority than Germany. After enslaving people, there's just too much of a track record to do that. Second reason for me is we get it wrong. Too much.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's the main one.

[Big Freeze Ice]

We get it wrong a lot. If I could tell y' all that we got it right 98% of the time, which would be a hell of a record, that would still mean that two out of every hundred people is getting killed wrongfully. And for me, that's way too high of a number. It's too high. And we ain't nowhere near 98%. I mean, Joe's favorite organization, the Innocence Project.

[Joe Button]

Innocence Project?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. I mean, they estimate sometimes 10, 20, 30%. I've even heard 40% of people are wrongfully. And again, I don't necessarily think it's that high, but let's say it's if

[Paul]

it's at 20 or if it's at

[Big Freeze Ice]

20, it still means one out of five people will be getting. We don't get it wrong. And then thirdly, it doesn't work if the argument is that it prevents people from doing it. The states that have the death penalty don't have lower murder rates. They don't have lower sexual assault rates. They don't have low. So it's not like. Or take sexual assault off the table real quick.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not my. When I say that it's never to prevent other people, it's to prevent you from doing the shit again. Because I don't think some people you can rehabilitate. But see, I don't think you can learn from this. You are gonna be an evil piece of shit forever. So you know what? Let's get you out of here.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So if you believe in state kind of sanctioned revenge, and I'm not saying that judgmentally, I'm saying if that's the position, look, I'm doing it. Then you could put them in the cage forever. I'm an abolitionist, but I'm saying if you believe in that, and I understand your point about not wanting to pay for it, but you could put them in the cage for that and prevent ourselves from getting it wrong. So the price we pay to put. Put that. That person in a cage for the rest of their life, the price that that price is to save that 20 or 30 from being wrongfully killed.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But also, like you said, that ain't gonna stop. Niggas in jail is killing motherfuckers. So even if you locked up for life and you know you ain't never going home, you know, like, even.

[Paul]

And the world knows that this dude is a piece of shit and he catches your son that might be locked up for stealing a car, or he catches your son that might be locked up for. For getting in a fight at a bar somewhere and he kills my son in jail, the parent can say, yo, dawg, he should have never been in jail, period. He should have been long gone.

[Big Parks]

Well, I also don't think those people should be in the same space.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And most people in death row are doing 23 and 1. At least the death row facilities I've been. Oh, death row, yeah, Remember, they'd still be on. So the equivalent of death row.

[Paul]

No, but you saying don't put them on death row, just put them in prison. No, they still put them on for life.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But I'm saying, like, the people I know who are not all. That's true. But there are people who have been getting given stays or People who clearly aren't gonna get executed, like in places like Pennsylvania, which hasn't executed anybody in a long time. They still do 23 in one. So I'm just saying there are security things you could put in place to prevent what you're talking about, which is a real concern, without killing people. And again, I'm not advocating for prison at all. But I'm just saying if you believe in prison, there's a way to stop killers from killing without killing people in this context. And again, to stop innocent people from dying, which is my biggest practical concern.

[Big Parks]

But sign the petition.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I signed a petition.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But if they kill David or the guy that kills them. 7. Killed him at 7 or 8 children. I will not lose a wink of sleep or a dab of ink signing any petitions. You know what I mean? I picked my fight strategic guy already. It's an example. My point. Point is when I don't believe in the death penalty, but I don't. I'm not losing sleep over Dylann Roof. I'm not losing sleep over, like, awful people who do awful. You know, I. It's just we got to be practical too.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Got it. We have words from Mike Vrabel. First time that he has addressed some of this stuff, sort of. Mike Vrabel says, that's funny. I had some difficult conversations with people I care about. My family, the organization, the coaches, the players. Those have been positive and productive. We believe in order to be successful on and off the field, you have to make good decisions. That includes me. And that starts with me. That is his opening statement to the media. That's it. That's a statement?

[Big Parks]

That's a statement.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Paul]

That ain't even a good publicist. His public is mid.

[Joe Button]

I don't think you really need a good publicist when you just went to the Super Bowl.

[Corey]

That part.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's.

[Big Parks]

That's all that sounds like.

[Paul]

That's a great point.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Patriot.

[Joe Button]

Patriot.

[Big Parks]

We're the Patriot way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

We going to inflate some balls and be fine. Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't worry about it. Just go say this. Don't worry about it.

[Paul]

You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Mike Vrabel, man. Glad to see some of the power dynamics and misogyny. I'm glad. I'm glad to see winning out here. I'm glad to see if you old reporter girl that the guy can keep his job.

[Paul]

She got fired.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He keep his job.

[Paul]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

And it's messed up. I'm joking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's up.

[Paul]

Had some difficult Conversations with some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

With the people.

[Paul]

People I love.

[Joe Button]

They all.

[Paul]

They all positive.

[Big Parks]

Out of the draft.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything was positive. Don't worry about it.

[Big Parks]

We good out of the draft.

[Joe Button]

My last question for you guys, and then I don't have anything else for y', all, is, whose side are you on in the Booy vs. Vlad interview?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Gate.

[Big Parks]

Oh, I'm not. I'm not here.

[Queens Flip]

I'm not here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't get this one.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, Come on. This one. One is good. Hey, boys, this one is good. Come on, let's do it.

[Vlad]

And we had a conversation, and this conversation was a private business conversation. But Boosie recently did a live where he revealed parts of this conversation. And in the con, you know, in his live, he said that he had asked for $5,000 more. And I said no, which is why he's not going to do the interview.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I wanted 5,000 more than he wanted to pay me.

[Joe Button]

He won't pay me.

[Queens Flip]

So

[Big Freeze Ice]

I think I'm gonna make more

[Paul]

money doing it this way. And I'm editing my interview now.

[Vlad]

Now, that's not exactly accurate. So, you know, I wasn't gonna put any of this out there, but because he started putting out numbers out there, and people started going, oh, Vlad being cheap. Why Is it only 5,000? You could pay him that, not knowing the whole picture?

[Joe Button]

Give it to us.

[Vlad]

I'm lay out the whole picture for everyone just to explain what exactly is going on. So when I called Boosie, like I said, the fee had always been 25,000. He said, I want. We had a conversation, 40,000. And I'm like, fam, I can't do 40,000. That's just putting me in the hole in a situation like this. He's like, well, I'll go as low as 35. And I'm like, man, listen, I might be able to do 30 after I run the numbers, but 35 is definitely out of the question. But let me go ahead and run my numbers and actually see what's going on. So I went back and I looked through the last, like, I don't know, five or six interviews, and I looked, and the profit margin on each of these interviews was around $10,000. So I showed him the numbers. I sent him a spreadsheet showing him my back end numbers. And I'm like, bro, the most I could do is 25. You're asking for 35. Your traffic has been dipping over the years. You've gone from about 6 million to about 5 and a half to about 5 and some change. So you're looking at about maybe a 10, 15% decrease, 40,000 in views, which means a 10 to 15% decrease in revenue, as you know. But you're asking for a 40% increase, an appearance fee, a 40% increase. It doesn't make any business sense because what will end up happening is, look, Boosie's already at home, right? He wakes up, he does the interview. There's no cost associated with him, and he was getting paid 25,000. I have to fly because I don't have a studio or a camera crew in Georgia, in Atlanta. So I have to hire a camera crew in Atlanta. I have to fly from LA to Atlanta. I have to get a hotel. I have to have all the costs associated with it. And then afterwards, I have to pay to get the video edited and pay my crew and everything else like that. And as you know, with YouTube, I'm taking all the risk because sometimes videos get demonetized. Right?

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Vlad]

Especially when you talk about someone like a Boosie who has, you know, he swears he's talking about a lot of edgy stuff in views, which means a 10 to 15% decrease in revenue, as you know. But you're asking for a 40% increase. And at the end of the day, I'm taking 100% of the risk. So I'm like, listen, I cannot pay you 35,000 when I'm going to make nothing or maybe I'm even going to take a loss. And Boosie is like, yo, you're being cheap. And I said, I'm not being cheap. I'm being put in a situation where you make all the money and I make none of the money. It simply doesn't make any business sense.

[Joe Button]

And at the end, a little long, but that's Vlad's version of what happened. Boosie then came out and said, I'm gonna interview myself. He did that. He put out a little teaser, giving some of his Gucci mane pooh shiesty thoughts. But when that video went on live, people was kicking his back in because the lighting is different and the lens is different and Boosie black as hell with no lighting. So niggas in the comments. Hey, hey, big dog. Yo, go ahead and take that 25

[Corey]

and take your ass back to black. But interesting conversation. Which side are y' all on and why?

[Paul]

Boosie? Yeah, Boosie's at 100.

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Paul]

It's two parts, so I'll address the first part part. Yo, him interviewing himself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Paul]

This is my first up interview. Y' all could crack on me, but I'm Gonna go get the lighting done. I' ma step it up. I'm gonna do these things. And I'm. This is my first one, so I could fix that. Secondly, I don't believe and I could be totally wrong. You guys are much better at this stuff than I. But I don't believe that Vlad is making $25,000 off of Boosie. Interview.

[Joe Button]

Interview.

[Paul]

Or he would have stopped doing Boosie interviews. I believe that Vlad is a successful businessman and he's not even going to do if I'm only making 30. I'm going to give you 25 margin. That makes zero sense to me. Anybody that has any business acumen knows that he is lying and he's downplaying the numbers. And the thing is, you can't prove it. And so that's the thing. You can't prove what Vlad's numbers are. Boosie can't look at his spreadsheet and say, yo, this is accurate. This is what you're making on the back in. Because he would never give Boosie that. It's. Nigga, I could type whatever the fuck I want in Excel and send it to somebody and say, yo, these are my numbers. I don't think that Vlad is as successful as he has been for the decades that he's been successful, making 10% margin on every video he shoots. That don't make sense. You can't stay in business and do that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But did he say he made it on every video or just that video?

[Paul]

He said y' all went and looked at his numbers.

[Joe Button]

Recent videos.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I thought he meant his recent. This recent. He makes 10,000 on every video.

[Paul]

He makes no video.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

True.

[Paul]

What I'm saying, though, is if it. If I'm not gonna make money, it don't even behoove me to do the video.

[Big Parks]

I wouldn't be doing that for. For 25. If I'm only making 10. Why would I do that ever?

[Paul]

He said not even 10. He said he would even make 30. Say I might lose money on this video. I don't think that's the truth.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The way they clip them videos up and run them. So I be 37. It'd be boosty interview part 37.

[Big Parks]

It's also one part of the equation, right? Like, because these boosty videos are over here and are doing well, other videos are getting visibility that you may be making a bigger profit margin off of. And it's all social media fodder, which is bringing more people to the channel than would come anyway. So it's kind of a. A loss Leader, I guess, for lack

[Queens Flip]

of a better term.

[Corey]

And

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you it's Boosie know what's up. You want me to talk about this Gucci man, Pooh Shisty. That is a hot topic especially given the type of person that Boosie is the he stands on. True. This is one of those. I know we jokingly say who the cares what Boosie got to say. This is one with a lot of people want to hear what Boosie got to say and he knows this and I know you are going to monetize the out of this. No, you cannot give me my usual for this. Demand is high right now. You're going to pay high demand and if not I'll keep it myself and do it myself. And I'm 100% with Boosie in that.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I, I, I'm with Booy about saying he can, he can set his price and he can say no, I ain't mad at that. But I don't think Vlad is right. I agree with Vlad. I mean I'm just thinking like let I'm just did a quick scan and some of these videos did a million, some did 600,000, some did 100,000. Let's say.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on, is that the whole interview or is that part.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I looked at the clips and the whole, the whole, you know what I mean? So I just did couple a quick. Just try to add up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All of that adds up together.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. YouTube is the whole aggregate. Let's assume the whole aggregate is 5 million views. Let's just say. How much money is that worth to a YouTuber? What would y' all say?

[Queens Flip]

It depends. It depends on the clicks. It depends.

[Big Freeze Ice]

There's a lot of factors, but it wouldn't be far fetched to say that for every million he's making 7,000, 8,000 to 10,000 depending on the length of the video. Now if it's an hour video, that's different. I'm just saying he might only be making 50 or 60. Let's just say generation 70,000 on the video. Let's just say it's 70. I don't think it's that much. I think it's probably just looking at the numbers. I just saw somewhere around 50 or 60,000 if he pays him. What did he ask for initially?

[Queens Flip]

25.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

30 was 40.

[Joe Button]

He said 40.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He gave him 40.

[Paul]

Then he said I'll go down to 35.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So let's say if he had honored the request to 35.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Cause you set a number, you negotiated. Let's say it's 35. Now he's got 25. Like he said, you gotta fly out there, set up a crew. And again, he's taking all the risk because you can get demonetized. You can have videos not hit. I'm just saying. And how much. I mean, y', all, how much should he make from this?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You think Boosie should take some risk in this? Vlad owns this. This your shit.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Boosie don't be taking a risk. He'll be getting the cash.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right? But again, I am. This is high demand. This is a regular owner.

[Paul]

So I'm gonna live and die with the upside or the possible downside. That is the ownership risk. When you own some shit, Boosie can't now come back and say, yo, this video. Video did 40 million streams, so you need to give me more bread. When you own a company, that is the risk that you take. Joe pays me every. Every month. If some go out the park, I can't now say, yo, that went out the park. Give me some more Spanky the same way. So that. That's the thing. You. You can't. When it's profitable. And then. And. And then. I mean, you can't. When it's not profitable, and then rejoice when it is. Like, that is what happens.

[Big Freeze Ice]

This is what I'm missing. I. I'm not arguing. Arguing that Boosie shouldn't be able to set his price and say yes or no based on what he thinks he's to make. I'm saying what's wrong. Why is Vlad wrong for saying no to that number? What if he'd asked for 50,000?

[Queens Flip]

He's not wrong at all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I'm just saying Vlad's right.

[Paul]

It's not a right or wrong issue. I said I side with Boosie, and I think Vlad is lying about the month.

[Queens Flip]

But Vlad's not gonna show Boosie his real numbers of what he's making. Nobody's gonna do that. Nobody's gonna calculate, yo, because he. Boosie, did a lot of videos, and a lot of those videos have replay value. So if you might have made. He could have said, yo, I made only $10,000 from you this month. But then Boosie could say, well, what do you made the next month? What do you made the other month? And not just my videos. Only if he takes his videos. Only. So I don't think that he's gonna show him the numbers. I understand what is saying, but I do agree with Vlad taking on. I do also agree as. As a business, you gotta. The point is to Make a profit. Like, we can pretend all we want is to make a profit. Like, if I'm doing that, I'm putting you on my platform. Whatever. You would have did it on your own. And you see what happened when you did it on your own. I put you on my platform, nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, but it's that. And it's that one part that I want to keep repeating the same thing. But again, this is a high, highly anticipated interview here. Vlad knows that. That's my thing. Vlad. No, I'll give you an example.

[Joe Button]

Bring it here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's like, if Umar's coming back up here, Joe, know what that's going to do? It's highly anticipated. Okay? So if I downplay my numbers to you knowing I'm about to shoot this through the roof and then. And Boosie knows what you about to do, so. No, you're gonna pay me more for this one because I know what happens

[Paul]

to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me, let me.

[Joe Button]

Let me jump in here a little bit. And I'm on both of your sides. You said if Umar comes back up here, I know what that's gonna do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Correct.

[Joe Button]

Okay. I also know what he does without me. And I could be of the position that it ain't that much. Okay, back to Mr. Tenderness and Homeboy. The union together is where the value is. The second that you go and to try, try to no lighting, no camera, and do it on your own.

[Corey]

All right?

[Joe Button]

You wanna fuck up the dope, fuck it up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, prior to that, though, stop real quick, because I'm with you. Let's say prior to that, though, let's say Boosie never does this part. He never puts out his clip of his interview with the bad lighting, the bad camera, none of that. He's still keeping it. He hasn't said anything yet.

[Joe Button]

And Boosie's math, just so you know, Boosie is saying, when I was charging you 25 grand, I did seven, eight interviews in a year. Now that I'm telling you, 40 grand, 35 grand, I haven't done any in the last seven months. I feel like I'm saving you money. That's what Boosie is saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I get that logic.

[Paul]

I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not logical. I think.

[Joe Button]

I think to set a precedent, I'm not paying nobody 25,000 to do interview. That's me. Vlad has a business that is working and is successful. I would assume that Boosie is a large part of that, but that's a lot. If a nigga you had success with come in Your face. I need 40 grand to sit down now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But the situation.

[Corey]

I don't think he's wrong.

[Joe Button]

I don't care about that part.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But that matters, though. That's very important to you.

[Joe Button]

The part that matters to me is if I come sit down once you can make that B300 videos. And so I care about that. So I'm charging you 40. But now you have 300 videos that you're clipping and all of them are doing. Doing numbers.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

One, two. Damn. What was I about to say? What the was I about to say? My memory is bad.

[Paul]

Can I jump in real quick?

[Joe Button]

Well, let me at least try to remember what I was about to say. What was I saying? Oh, Vlad runs a subscription service, so it is a little disingenuous to say

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't even know that.

[Joe Button]

Hey, I'm checking the numbers on these videos over here. And it ain't hidden. Well, no, it ain't hidden there. And parts if I come over there and the subs is just all the way through the roof.

[Corey]

Only when I sit down, I'm well

[Joe Button]

within my right to charge, but I'm charging again, I, I agree with both of them in this.

[Corey]

And I don't think, I don't think,

[Big Parks]

I don't pick a side.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't think there's a wrong

[Paul]

park's point is, is even Makes it even stronger. Yo, I might have led somebody here to see this, but now they looking at Freeway Rick Ross. They looking at this because it's gonna give you suggested to watch watch. So now you can't quantify what I did for your traffic. You can only quantify what I did for that one particular interview. But I might have bought. Oh, you might go look at the old Boosie. You might go look at this. You might go look at that. You get what I'm saying? And so that's the thing. Like, yo, when you go on YouTube, they'll suggest some. You ain't come on there to see that song. You might go watch that now. So you can't really put it in words. I think Vlad is too successful to only be getting getting that small profit margin.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But see, I don't think it's a small margin given how much content he puts out. It is you, you know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Still think it's a small margin.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Okay, I, I, I,

[Paul]

$10,000 per video.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't think he's talking about.

[Joe Button]

He's not saying per video.

[Big Freeze Ice]

He's not saying Boosie's video.

[Joe Button]

That don't Say per video. That's two different things.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's what I'm saying. Because there some videos that he does.

[Paul]

I'm talking about Booy videos.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

But I'm saying he. His business model isn't largely. Isn't majority.

[Paul]

Boosie.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He ain't paying niggas 30 grand every time he sit down.

[Big Freeze Ice]

There's a lot of people. I'm saying there's a mark. I'm saying he might. Because he paid so much for Boosie, that margin might be lower, but to your point, it might lead to the subscriptions and all these other things. But you were saying he's too successful of a businessman to be making 10,000 a video. I'm saying I think you're right. On some of these videos. He's making 100,000 a video because, for example, I've done. I mean, I'm not big enough to get paid, but I didn't get paid to do Vlad. To do Vlad. But I. But it got millions of views. You know what I mean? Some people are getting $5,000 and it's getting 5 million views. And that's how he. I think that's how he's making his money. And he chops that up into a million pieces and then puts out the overall. I think the. I think sometimes these big celebrity videos that he pays twenty and thirty thousand dollars for, to your point, is just the introduction to get people into the universe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Cool.

[Paul]

So that means it still has a value.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So that means your profit margin is more than what you are saying. Even if the bigger videos, you. You might be paying a larger amount of money to get traffic there, and that traffic generates revenue from other people.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's harder to quantify.

[Paul]

Yeah, that's still attributed to me. Yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

So that's the case.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You treat that shit like an advertising cost, then. Like you bought a commercial, then.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, as a business owner, at some point you're gonna say, all right, enough.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And that's what I'm saying. Boosie did nothing wrong. I'm just saying. I don't. This idea of. I'm not saying y' all are saying this, but that Vlad is somehow being unreasonable or true. Cheap. Because that's what Boosie said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I think the unreasonable.

[Big Freeze Ice]

You got to draw a line.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I think the unreasonable part. Or I ain't gonna call him cheap. But the part is where. No. Because nobody believes those are the real numbers he gave Boosie. So if I'm giving you some. Some. Some fabricated numbers to try to get you to lower your price. That's where the you do you doing the shady, right?

[Big Freeze Ice]

But he ain't gotta give him 10.

[Joe Button]

He didn't have to give him 90.

[Paul]

He used that the biggest thing to support his position. Yeah, he used that as the biggest, biggest thing to support his position. He didn't say, yo, I feel you was worth 35 grand. So I just didn't give it to you. He said, I showed him the numbers and I'm only making X and I would be taking a loss if I gave you 35,000. That's what his. That was his supporting argument.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't think those numbers are inaccurate necessarily. I think in the sense that. I think they're literally correct. I think he probably made that off those videos. But all this incidental, tangential stuff brings the other money. And I don't think. I don't even know if you can quantify that or share, but I wouldn't share it.

[Queens Flip]

Let me say something.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't share it.

[Queens Flip]

You know, one video, I had 170,000, I made about 4 grand. Next video I had 50,000, I made about 10 grand. It happens depending on the clicks, depending. It's just, it's just. It's a way to do it.

[Big Freeze Ice]

And the length of the video.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Like, I made a bunch of money on Brian McKnight.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. So sold it is. Yeah, yeah. Made a bunch of money.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah. And that video didn't do as as many views. It got maybe half a million views, but I made way more money on that than I did.

[Queens Flip]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah, it's not. It's the views, it's the length.

[Paul]

Because also I don't know nothing.

[Queens Flip]

That's what I'm saying.

[Paul]

That y' all would be the experts in that. I don't know if what he's saying even sounds credible.

[Queens Flip]

I don't feel like.

[Joe Button]

I just don't think you need to

[Corey]

go to any and.

[Queens Flip]

And show them your work

[Corey]

at all.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Unless that's just your man's you do. But I wouldn't do that.

[Queens Flip]

You do that to somebody that, that, that you. That, that you're not supposed. It's taboo. But you do it to somebody that you really care about to show them. Like, yo, whatever you think this is, this is not what it is when it comes to yours.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And there's Or. Or I don't think you really know what's up anyway, so if I show you some, you'll believe it. And then I got I got you.

[Queens Flip]

I got you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what I think happened here.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I don't know. I. I hate agreeing with Vlad, but

[Joe Button]

I. I'm want to do it either. I didn't want to do it at all. No, you don't. I just thought that was a real interesting conversation.

[Corey]

It is good, though.

[Joe Button]

And I know Boosie is his man and it's on.

[Paul]

MAD s of business would be like, yo, man, my. I pay my electrician 44,000 for this. You get your electrician 12 grand. You know what I'm saying? Like it happens in all facets of business cars. Yo, man, I'm. I ain't even. I only making $2,000 off it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're lying.

[Joe Button]

Good day today, y'.

[Corey]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Word.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Excellent day.

[Corey]

Real, real, real, real, real good day, Iceman.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Hey. We'll see.

[Big Parks]

The blowtorches haven't found the answer yet.

[Joe Button]

Toronto kids are so slow.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stole that ice.

[Corey]

Word now no get to smell nice.

[Paul]

Would have set a heater up right

[Corey]

outside that Jersey City.

[Joe Button]

Would have just stole Drake. Froze him.

[Corey]

Y' all are down out there, man. Please be safe. Peace, love, health, wealth and prosperity. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I just skipped a whole part of this. I'm all up.

[Corey]

Remember, life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you out ibuprofen. You might need it. SL you ain't saying about WrestleMania.

[Queens Flip]

It's Patreon was dope.

[Joe Button]

See why you don't get the check?

[Queens Flip]

I got the check.

[Corey]

Patreon for WrestleMania.

[Queens Flip]

Did you see that?

[Corey]

It look like 500,000 people. How that look like absolute madness.

[Queens Flip]

WrestleMania. WrestleMania. You was there.

[Joe Button]

No, I didn't go.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Oh, no, I'm talking about flip.

[Queens Flip]

No, I wasn't there.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's right. Got the pants.

[Queens Flip]

Wrestling WrestleMania was amazing, man. I really enjoyed Roman Reigns versus CM Punk. I want to shout out to CM Punk and Roman Reigns. The fact that CM Punk is 46 years old and putting on the show, they gave it their best. I thought it was amazing. I also want to shout out Randy Orton and Cody. I'm kind of. I wish Orton would have won. Yeah, and shout out to Jade, man what they like wwe. Wwe. I like the fact that you guys made Jay come out second. Everybody know as a champion. Jade came out first as a champion. That's a slap in the face.

[Joe Button]

Oh, did they?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, like Jay should have came.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The contender go out.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. And then the contender go out first. And then the champion go out second. You. You guys actually made a champion come out first. I don't know what message y' all trying to give or whatever, but we not receiving it.

[Joe Button]

That's crazy.

[Queens Flip]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

That's about that.

[Queens Flip]

Shout out to. Oh, Shout out to Osho Speed, man. He did great. Shout out to everybody. WrestleMania was dope, man. I liked it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did Brock really retire?

[Big Freeze Ice]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Brock Lesnar. Oh, yeah. Brock Lesnar versus Oba Femi. Brock retired. He went off script. So usually when they do this, it goes. There's something that's really going on. So he used this sign to show that he was serious. So he took off his glove impromptu, took off his boots and laid it in the ring and left. Kind of like passing the church to Oba, but also just retiring on the shield, the conditions that he wanted to.

[Big Freeze Ice]

That's dope.

[Queens Flip]

Shout out to WrestleMania.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I wish you was down there, man. All jokes aside, they need to pull you in more, man, because you bring. You do so much for wrestling, and you got such a good voice on this, man. I would love to see you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I would like to see you jump off. Jump. That's what I want. I wanted that to be flipped.

[Queens Flip]

I can't jump over nothing.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I've been breaking tables for decades.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. I'm not doing it anymore. I'm the dummy for the best bag.

[Paul]

You'll break a table.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, depending on how big the bag is.

[Big Freeze Ice]

For a bag, you can break how

[Big Parks]

big the table is.

[Queens Flip]

I'll be the table mark, right? What's that? I'm. I'm the birthday. It should be saying.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah, I've heard that.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, you heard about that. I'm the birthday.

[Big Parks]

I've heard.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Y' all don't wrap this goddamn show.

[Queens Flip]

Okay?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My sushi just looking at me.

[Queens Flip]

Flip.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Wait, wait. Now to start talking.

[Big Parks]

We can unpack that later.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, yo, see, Stop.

[Big Freeze Ice]

I love you trick me with that now.

[Queens Flip]

You trick me.

[Corey]

Y' all are down out there till next time. We going, man.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Y' all stay safe.

[Corey]

Have a good week. Go Knicks. Go. NFL draft this Thursday.

[Big Parks]

Yes, sir.

[Corey]

Rest in peace, Ashley. Janae, I love you and I miss you.

[Joe Button]

Until next time, we are gone. Nose. Nose. Nope. Nose. Nope. Nose. Nose. No. Nose. Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Nose.

[Corey]

Jbp.

[Big Freeze Ice]

Jbp.

[Queens Flip]

Where would you be without the JV Paddy era?

[Big Freeze Ice]

It's the network. Yes, sir.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Never heard that song.