Episode 924 | "Reasonable Expectations"

Summary

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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 924 | "Reasonable Expectations"

Release Date: April 29, 2026

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Overview

This episode is a quintessential gathering of the Joe Budden Podcast crew, joined by Mark Lamont Hill and the usual cast—Flip, Corey, Parks, Freeze, and more. They serve up their signature blend of barbershop banter, relationship hot takes, cultural analysis, and absurd group chemistry. The central theme explores “Reasonable Expectations” in relationships—sparked by the high-profile breakup between Megan Thee Stallion and NBA star Klay Thompson—but the episode also delves into party recaps, celebrity drama, current events (including a White House incident), and lighthearted self-roasting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Wendy Williams for 40-Year-Old Dudes” Joke & Demographics

• Reaction to Public Criticism (00:37–03:04)
  The team reacts to a viral tweet branding the podcast "The Wendy Williams Show for 30+ (or 40+) dudes." Rather than being offended, they embrace the comparison as a testament to their influence and penchant for gossip.
  • Joe Budden: “Wendy Williams is an all-time great to me. I be like, nah, they hit that on the head. They feeling us.” (01:27)
  • Discussion of their large younger (18–35) audience, defying stereotypes.

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2. Barbershop Banter, Inside Jokes, and Set Talk

• Classic Episodes and Dynamics (03:23–11:01)
  • The team humorously debates whether their best episodes come from adversarial (“petty, classic” arguments) or harmonious energy.
  • Parks: “Do ya’ll think we can have a classic without being adversarial?” (10:02)
  • Reflection on memorable past episodes (“oxtails” and “day after Thanksgiving”) and how chemistry drives viral moments.
• Set Changes & Spending Habits (04:01–06:34)
  • Playful discussion about tables, set aesthetics, saving money, and being “popped” (broke) after tax season.
  • Joe Budden: “At this point, it’s not about earning more. It’s about preserving.” (05:14)

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3. Party Storytime: Parks’ Wife’s Birthday Party

Segment: 19:07–36:00

• Extended, hilarious recap of a friend's birthday party—brunch woes, awkward speeches, best-friend drama, and nostalgia for 2016 Jersey house music.
• The “male best friend” speech raises classic relationship insecurities and possessive instincts.
  • Flip: “If my man’s wife is around, that’s our wife. Sorry.” (26:19)
  • Clowning on overdressed emotional speeches, “Patterson Nutcrackers,” and family dynamics.

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4. Relationship Rules, Social Etiquette, & Ex-Drama

Segment: 35:27–41:58

• Spirited debate on:
  • Whether you can invite exes (or people you’ve slept with) to your birthday.
  • If it’s ever appropriate for your girl/guy to be cool with their ex’s friends.
• Joe Budden: “There’s nobody that should be at my birthday party that my girl knows I slept with.” (36:02)
• Nuanced perspectives: Some feel time heals all, others say boundaries are critical (“Happy Birthday, Craig!” becomes a running joke).

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5. Headline Topic: Megan Thee Stallion & Klay Thompson Breakup

Segment: 45:18–76:14

The Story:

• Megan announces the breakup on IG, accusing Klay of cheating and “not knowing if he can be monogamous.”
• She ends her Broadway run early, amid public and fan drama.

The Reaction:

• Empathy for Megan: The team is largely sympathetic, noting the loss of stability/family in her life and the culture of public heartbreak.
  • Joe Budden: “People cheat every day. NBA players, stars...I’m not celebrating this lady’s breakup.” (51:16)
• Internet Frenzy:
  • Both sides—stans and haters—project, analyze, and celebrate/condemn.
  • Freeze: “People were making infographics about all the dudes she allegedly slept with. It’s weird.” (52:32)
• Reasonable Expectations in Relationships (62:11–76:14)
  • Lively debate: Is it “naive” for Megan (or anyone) to expect monogamy from a wealthy, famous NBA star?
  • Joe Budden: “Would it be naive to think that man we just described is committed in less than six months to monogamy?” (66:53)
  • Freeze: “I think it’s reasonable to expect that somebody will keep their word, especially if it’s the nice guy.” (66:43)
  • Nuanced insight: “Patterns are important...Love bombing is a real thing. Some dudes are assassins.” (85:53)

Key Quotes:

• Corey: “Just because you get invited to Thanksgiving doesn’t mean you’re locked in for life!” (78:11)
• Mark Lamont Hill: “Do you really mean it from your heart as a man, or are you just saying you’re older now, so you look at things different?” (85:55)

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6. Culture Recap: White House Shooting Scare & Political Satire

Segment: 101:13–114:49

• Recap and reaction to an incident involving an attempted White House shooting during the Correspondents’ Dinner.
• Skepticism about the “convenient timing” of the incident for Trump, media theatrics, and outlandish security failures.
  • Freeze: “This is the closest I've ever been to thinking it was bullshit...if you try to kill me twice, my security should be extra good, not extra lax.” (109:22)

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7. Jimmy Kimmel Joke Controversy & Political Correctness

Segment: 112:02–114:49

• Discussion of Jimmy Kimmel’s “expectant widow” joke about Melania Trump, right-wing outrage, and calls for his firing after the White House scare.
• The pod asserts joke was in bounds; hypocrisy of politicians criticized.
  • Ish: “The President says worse shit than a nighttime comedian correspondent.” (113:08)
  • Joe Budden: “If you’re watching late night TV, there should be a reasonable expectation that you’ll hear a joke like that.” (114:19)

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8. Creator Independence and Negotiation Drama

Segment: 116:25–126:26

• Shoutout to Speedy’s departure from Complex to go independent.
• Joe Budden: “I’m rooting for any creator that is on some, you know what? It’s time for me to go out there and hunt my own food type shit.” (117:01)
• VladTV disputes: Aries Spears tries to renegotiate pay based on Boosie’s contract, but the crew laughs off his lack of leverage.
  • Flip: “Your name is cold as hell. You ain’t got leverage, beverage, or nothing else that rhymes with leverage.” (122:51)

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9. Sports Updates & Petty NFL Draft Drama

Segment: 148:00–152:19

• The Cowboys allegedly sabotage the Steelers in the draft (the “petty draft day maneuver”), delighting competitive spirits.
  • Joe Budden: “I didn’t like it when the Cowboys did it to us, but I do like that petty shit.” (151:58)

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10. Music & Media: Songwriter List and New Releases

Segment: 144:51–148:17

• Debate over New York Times’ “Top 30 Living American Songwriters,” inclusion of Young Thug, absence of pivotal behind-the-scenes writers like Brian Michael Cox or Jermaine Dupri.
  • Parks: “I’m not putting him [Young Thug] in Dolly Parton’s category on the same list.” (148:12)
• Quick takes on upcoming Drake numbers, Chris Brown releases, and industry hype.

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11. Random Gems & Notable Moments

• Classic Jokes & Self-Roasting

  • The pod’s flow is peppered with mockery, accidental water-swapping, “herpes water” gags, and landlord stories.
  • Relationship etiquette pearls: “Don’t say Happy Birthday to Craig!” (41:00 onwards)

• End-of-Show Vibes

  • Flip: “Shout-out to everybody going through a breakup out there. Our hearts are with you ... just avoid the ‘memories’ folder in your phone.” (170:50)
  • Joe Budden: “Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have.” (169:59)

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Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “[Wendy Williams] is an all-time great to me. I be like, nah, they hit that on the head. They feeling us.” – Joe Budden (01:27)
• “Would it be naive to think that man we just described is committed in less than six months to monogamy?” – Joe Budden (66:53)
• “Love bombing is a real thing. Some dudes are assassins!” – Mark Lamont Hill (85:53)
• “Patterns are important ... Sometimes you just gotta take some accountability for that shit.” – Freeze (83:32)
• “People were making infographics about all the dudes she allegedly slept with. It’s weird.” – Freeze (52:32)
• “People cheat every day. NBA players, stars...I'm not celebrating this lady’s breakup.” – Joe Budden (51:16)
• “If you’re watching late night TV, there should be a reasonable expectation that you’ll hear a joke like that.” – Joe Budden (114:19)
• “Don’t say Happy Birthday to Craig!” (recurring joke, 41:00+)
• “Shout-out to everybody going through a breakup. Our hearts are with you ... Just avoid the ‘memories’ folder in your phone.” – Flip (170:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Wendy Williams for 40-Year-Old Dudes: 00:37–03:04
• Classic Episode Chemistry & Adversarial Energy: 03:23–11:01
• Party Recap / Male Best Friend Speech Drama: 19:07–36:00
• Exes & Relationship Social Rules: 35:27–41:58
• Megan Thee Stallion & Klay Thompson Breakup Analysis: 45:18–76:14
• White House Shooting Scare: 101:13–114:49
• Kimmel Joke, Political Correctness: 112:02–114:49
• Creator Independence / VladTV-Related Drama: 116:25–126:26
• Songwriter List Controversy: 144:51–148:17
• NFL Draft Petty Drama: 148:00–152:19
• Show Close, Breakup Advice: 170:50–end

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the infectious, irreverent vibe that made the Joe Budden Podcast a cultural staple—advice, empathy, insider stories, often-absurd humor, and almost always a healthy dose of relationship therapy-meets-roasting. The real “reasonable expectation”? A podcast with something wild (and surprisingly wise) for everyone.

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Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Flip]

We waiting on here?

[Corey]

Nothing. We're here now.

[Party]

We here now.

[Joe Button]

They did say that about us.

[Erickson]

Said what?

[Joe Button]

Well, the day is funny though.

[Corey]

Yeah, they is funny because we're not gonna properly attribute.

[Party]

Of course not.

[Joe Button]

It's that because it's one. One person is always they.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And then it just travels.

[Flip]

Even though I've seen people share a

[Joe Button]

similar sentiment to it. But this person just worded it. What did he, what did he say?

[Corey]

Something to the effect of it's the

[Joe Button]

Joe Button podcast is the Wendy Williams for 40 old dudes.

[Corey]

Yeah,

[Freeze]

that ain't far off.

[Joe Button]

Joe Button podcast is The Wendy Williams 40 year old dude.

[Corey]

I like to think that there were do other things too, but I think when he.

[Freeze]

Williams being Wendy Williams is so dope

[Parks]

to me, I don't, I don't take that as a dick.

[Corey]

Yeah, word. Agreed.

[Joe Button]

That's the thing with Wendy Williams is Wendy Williams.

[Freeze]

So I think TV Wendy Williams, not radio.

[Flip]

Wait, when they say that, are they trying to diss us?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, see, I'm slow.

[Joe Button]

Wendy Williams is an all time great to me. I be like, nah, they hit that on the head. They feeling us.

[Party]

And he said the 30 year old 30 plus. His tweet says Joe Button podcast is just Wendy Williams show for 30 plus niggas. I would say 40 plus, but you 30 niggas. You 30 plus niggas ain't slick, yo.

[Flip]

Oddly enough, you sleep on our 18 to 35 demo.

[Joe Button]

Oddly enough you do sleep on it. A lot of people, there's a lot of kids.

[Flip]

Yeah, it is college kids, younger kids, my girl kids, my kids same. My kids friends.

[Joe Button]

Like don't sleep on the young heads that listen to us. But I do understand the point.

[Party]

I get it.

[Corey]

And it's not wholly offensive.

[Flip]

Yeah, I don't.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at it.

[Freeze]

I like it.

[Corey]

Even if it was trying to be

[Flip]

offensive, you need to offend better if you was trying to.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I slapped the out of you. You came in here with all our energy, said we had a classic last episode. Now you staring off into the abyss.

[Flip]

You came in here with all the energy, hyped me up, you put a battery in my back.

[Freeze]

Then Stepped the Ish.

[Flip]

You said we had a classic and you staring off into the fucking abyss.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was daydreaming, me slapping him and him kicking me into the table.

[Party]

You still.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I slap the nigga, if I play slap him, would he have still kicked me? I. I was thinking, how far can I go in attempting to slap him? I daydream like, damn. But I fall in there.

[Freeze]

What I gotta do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I swear, Glad's gonna be in my ass. Pause. What up, nigga? I'm hot.

[Joe Button]

That was our HR fight we was having.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Because the rule here is normally if

[Flip]

you break the table and audience, it's three topics.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah, don't worry, we can shoot a shit.

[Corey]

And one of them is very Wendy Williams, 4 year old.

[Parks]

We ain't beating out these.

[Corey]

Not at all.

[Joe Button]

The HR rule here. Normally, if you break the table, you're fired.

[Erickson]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Flip step to Ish and said, I'm gonna smack the shit out of you. And then Ish said, well, if you do, then you gonna be on the floor and that table's gonna be broken and you're gonna be fired.

[Freeze]

That's what Ish did say.

[Parks]

And Flip was like, wait, I'm gonna get fired?

[Flip]

I'm the only one? No, I said that too.

[Freeze]

I ain't understand. I was like, why you don't think

[Flip]

both of y' all get fired?

[Joe Button]

But then Ish explained it, and y' all know I ain't being on his side, but he was right. He was minding his business at work. Somebody came in his airspace and assaulted him.

[Flip]

He does have the right to defend himself. And in that, if something breaks, then

[Joe Button]

what I'm gonna do. Yeah, but just buy another table. And that's gonna take eight months for them tables to come back. Then I'm have to go in there.

[Erickson]

You don't want that table nowhere anyway.

[Flip]

Then I'm have to go in there. Yo, can I buy the display? You gotta have that. Talk about buying a display.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you're no longer changing the set. Didn't you have.

[Erickson]

You don't want this table anyway.

[Joe Button]

Who don't want that table?

[Erickson]

You don't.

[Joe Button]

Shit, I bring that table to my house. I love these things.

[Erickson]

Oh, no, they don't.

[Flip]

I absolutely. And I think they just go with mad shit.

[Erickson]

Anything.

[Flip]

Yeah, so, yeah, no, I want them.

[Erickson]

As long as you got the circular aesthetic.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want them tables for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You were planning on changing the set?

[Flip]

Nigga, I bought three of them motherfuckers. That ain't one table.

[Erickson]

You just Copied the book.

[Flip]

You just stole the book idea, yo. You just stole the book idea. Look, look, look, look. Undermining all our hard work, we did. When this was just an empty canvas. We stole the book. Undermining our hard.

[Erickson]

Anyway, follow the model.

[Corey]

It's cool.

[Flip]

What'd you say, Flip?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said that you were planning on changing the set. Is that plan still in effect?

[Flip]

Nah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Change your mind.

[Joe Button]

I like the set.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Trying to maximize the set.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's trying to be humble, nigga.

[Joe Button]

Get the most I can get out the set.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah.

[Joe Button]

What do you think I'm doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying, like, nigga don't save no money, nigga. Nigga, spin. Get a new set. Like you said. I couldn't wait to see. I couldn't wait to see all the tricks you had up your sleeve, bro, you. Cause every time you up it. I know when you up it. Cause something new come. When something happen. Something new come, bro. So I can't wait to see what's new. Can't wait to see what's new. A new car, A new watch.

[Joe Button]

At this point, it's not about earning more. It's about preserving. There's no new tricks, man.

[Corey]

Sets are expensive.

[Joe Button]

It's just saving. It's just saving and saving and saving. I'm still popped. I can't believe April this long. Yo. Talk about a dude waiting to be replenished.

[Flip]

Yo, yo, I'm in my house sick. Like, yo, what if I just made

[Joe Button]

this for the year, Nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Friday, bro.

[Joe Button]

Oh, thank you.

[Flip]

I'm sitting here waiting on how do people do it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Friday around the corner.

[Flip]

Oh, my God. Look through a few mil in the blink of an eye.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

God damn, it's tough. I can't wait for you.

[Corey]

I'm sorry.

[Flip]

I can't wait for the first.

[Corey]

Sorry that happened, too. Yeah, it must be tough.

[Party]

It's fucked up.

[Flip]

You, too, Mark. I will blast you off that chair today.

[Corey]

We can't just do this again.

[Flip]

What he did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What he did.

[Freeze]

He spent some bread. No, relax, relax. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't touch me. You spill some bread?

[Erickson]

No.

[Joe Button]

No. I ain't letting Mark fucking play the other side. Mark, down with me.

[Parks]

I'm with the people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you're not.

[Flip]

Yet.

[Freeze]

You got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I forgot. He got some new shit, too.

[Joe Button]

Me, Mark, and Ish. Is and Ice are popped.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Flip]

Me, Mark, Ish and Ice are popped and flipped.

[Joe Button]

You've been making what You.

[Flip]

You will be popped this summer.

[Corey]

I'm popped.

[Freeze]

That's what you think. You.

[Flip]

You'll be. You'll be popped. And. And I'mma pop you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you talking about when I lose my job pop you, boy.

[Flip]

Oh, you ain't popped.

[Corey]

I am.

[Flip]

Really? I pay taxes, too.

[Joe Button]

It's bad.

[Corey]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Joe Button]

It's bad.

[Corey]

It's tough time of year.

[Joe Button]

I had to pay taxes. And y'.

[Ian]

All.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Flip]

That was a chunk. And y. I be forgetting what these make, cuz. She like. Oh, hold up. We got to sit. Wait, hold on to what? Come on, let's.

[Parks]

You really gotta motivate the truth.

[Flip]

Push Marnie in a stupid ass, Marty. Come on, y'. All.

[Freeze]

Let's have fun.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, we in.

[Flip]

Please. Let's have a good time.

[Joe Button]

Let's go.

[Flip]

Come on, man. Let's go, let's go, let's go. We just had a classic.

[Freeze]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

That should be the name of this episode.

[Corey]

We just had a classic. I like it, actually.

[Flip]

I like fire. I like that fire. We got fucking award ourselves, nigga. The Emmys won't do it.

[Freeze]

That was great. When y' all are in the moment

[Parks]

of a great episode, do y' all be like, yo, this a classic? No, no.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Parks]

No.

[Party]

You could tell some of the stuff will be.

[Joe Button]

Would you.

[Erickson]

You could tell the algorithm will go crazy.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Party]

You can tell that in the moment.

[Parks]

Yeah, I can tell sometimes.

[Joe Button]

I knew when I posted Me and Ish that we had a hit.

[Flip]

Oh, I knew that was it.

[Joe Button]

But in terms of all episode. Nah, I can never.

[Parks]

I knew oxtails was gonna work. Yeah, that was an easy one to predict. Nah, you could tell, but that whole episode was. That was.

[Erickson]

I can usually tell some of the episodes. The energy just be right, right.

[Parks]

And it's like.

[Freeze]

Like the day after Thanksgiving.

[Parks]

I knew in the moment that was fire.

[Erickson]

Yeah, I don't.

[Corey]

I don't remember.

[Freeze]

That was maybe one of my best episodes.

[Corey]

That's the one when you and flip over Spot.

[Parks]

No, no, no. That was months before this was.

[Freeze]

This was right. The day after Thanksgiving.

[Parks]

Like, Mona was doing the imitating Ish. Getting a laser on that. That whole episode, we was just out of control.

[Corey]

I'm.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah. The whole episode, everybody was on a hunted.

[Joe Button]

I remember. That was fire.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's how I felt. What? Y' all doing the oxtail.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, bro. Your Philly girl. Your Philly says they ain't here, bro. We can represent for her.

[Freeze]

I know she not here. That's the only time you hear, I'm not.

[Party]

No, no.

[Freeze]

Substitute teacher Ass niggas. Let's laugh at his jokes. Let's laugh. Mr. Flip here. I know, I know, I know, I know.

[Ian]

Hey, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yo, Mark.

[Freeze]

Roll out the TV cart.

[Flip]

Yo, Mark, Go outside.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go outside and take a chance for yourself, Mark.

[Flip]

Go outside.

[Freeze]

Take a chance.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Take a chance. Take a chance of yourself again, Mark. It's okay, bro. It ashamed to come from television and have to suck up to a nigga like Joe Button to be on him.

[Flip]

How do I.

[Freeze]

How he said him.

[Flip]

I hate him.

[Freeze]

Why do I do that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This nigga now does a thousand things.

[Freeze]

He already has a thousand things. Let me finish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He already has a thousand things on this plate. Now he has to do a thousand things more to try to get in position. You're already in position, OG you already here, bro. We love you. Yeah, we love you. N. Make sure after tonight you go on space. He's gonna suck up to them niggas too, yo.

[Freeze]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They love you, bro. You got it, boy. You got it.

[Freeze]

Let me know when the bit is over. I just want to snow bit.

[Parks]

I'm gonna laugh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pure facts.

[Freeze]

I promise. I'm gonna laugh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, nobody laugh. Pure facts. I'm telling you. So when Mona's not here, you don't gotta suck him and bring a Mona. Shit, she come. Nigga, you suck up. Tell me what she gave.

[Freeze]

I said we had a good episode. I said, flip here, boy. I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip here, boy.

[Parks]

And you killing it right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not. No, no.

[Freeze]

Classic joke aloud.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We just had one. He can't do it with. You ain't put the numbers up. You ain't put the numbers up, boy.

[Flip]

Air boy.

[Erickson]

They still say that.

[Joe Button]

Let me ask y' all something. Do y' all think we can have a classic without being adversarial?

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

Of course. No, that's a good.

[Corey]

It's a key ingredient. Let's be real.

[Freeze]

Right. Exactly.

[Party]

I disagree.

[Flip]

That's a shame.

[Erickson]

I disagree.

[Parks]

I wanna try.

[Joe Button]

You might be right. But I wanna hear.

[Flip]

I wanna hear. This might talk me back off the ledge.

[Erickson]

The day you wasn't here.

[Freeze]

That.

[Erickson]

That last episode when you wasn't.

[Joe Button]

Everything he say is a child of me.

[Freeze]

Off. I think we can.

[Erickson]

No, I'm not trying to be. No, I ain't trying to be a dick. That was a really good episode that day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was.

[Erickson]

That was a really good episode. I wasn't trying to be a dick.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

And it wasn't adversarial.

[Joe Button]

It was just super silly.

[Flip]

You know what? I' ma smack the out this, bro

[Erickson]

I wasn't trying to be funny. I'm dead ass.

[Flip]

I wasn't.

[Joe Button]

All right. Just know my antennas is up on you.

[Flip]

Put him down, bro. I don't want no problem now.

[Corey]

What if he throws you into the table? I can see mad classic episodes coming.

[Freeze]

That would be a classic. It wouldn't come out, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Meme.

[Flip]

Oh, it wouldn't come out. We took that.

[Joe Button]

Why would we talk that?

[Freeze]

If he threw you through that table, that shit would not be. Wait.

[Flip]

Would I be assaulting him in any

[Freeze]

situation where you go.

[Parks]

I'm not assaulting anybody.

[Flip]

Just so we clear. I'm not assaulting anybody verbally. There will be no.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't.

[Corey]

He felt unsafe.

[Joe Button]

I don't physically abuse y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Freeze]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't.

[Freeze]

It's not physically.

[Joe Button]

I don't physically abuse y'.

[Ian]

All.

[Joe Button]

I'm not with that.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Thrown into the table.

[Parks]

But if he threw you into the table, that shit would be on his Instagram in, like, before we finish the episode.

[Party]

No, it wouldn't.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to come off that way. Especially not going into 46.

[Freeze]

That's true.

[Parks]

He put. He put on Pay per view.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to represent myself that way.

[Freeze]

$90. 90.

[Flip]

Oh, man.

[Joe Button]

Pay per view.

[Erickson]

What?

[Party]

Oh, man.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Erickson]

You gonna need it.

[Flip]

Definitely gonna need it.

[Joe Button]

Before we start, I know the mag is off. Gonna be our first topic. I got some beautiful music queued up, too. How are y' all approaching this? Approaching the Meg topic I sent.

[Parks]

I told y' all in the group chat how I felt.

[Corey]

Serious. Very serious.

[Freeze]

Shock.

[Joe Button]

Ish.

[Erickson]

Okay.

[Party]

Come on,

[Flip]

bro. Don't start with a straight. We'll see. It's a straight. It's a very straightforward question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We gonna get it.

[Corey]

We have to be careful with people's emotions.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

There's a lot of people going through a lot. So I think we should approach it. Seriously.

[Party]

I'm with you parts. I'm with party.

[Freeze]

Oh, shit.

[Party]

Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

He was so old with part.

[Corey]

Partisan.

[Joe Button]

Partisan.

[Erickson]

Hey, yo. I can only imagine you skip jumping

[Flip]

to this when you was young.

[Erickson]

You and Buck, Stallion and what's the

[Freeze]

other big name for those from here? These. They about to get in a Jersey

[Parks]

old bag right now.

[Freeze]

Every song's about to be Jersey house.

[Flip]

Hush up, Marty.

[Freeze]

I'm just telling the audience that don't know.

[Flip]

I had my first son off this set.

[Joe Button]

Off this set,

[Erickson]

you was to touch

[Jim Jones]

me and go,

[Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

I know. Never in your life have you been a dancer. I'm referring to in the club when

[Flip]

this set came on and they all bum rushed. And then I went over there and got in my duffel. That's how I bagged my first son's mom. Got you gotcha this set. And then right after this thong song

[Joe Button]

and you owe me and all that came on Nas. Yeah.

[Flip]

Good times.

[Joe Button]

Good times.

[Parks]

I thought he meant.

[Freeze]

I thought he meant.

[Parks]

We thought you mentioned you were stroking to this.

[Flip]

Oh, no. Into this. Everybody looked at you like, I'm going to bag my first baby.

[Joe Button]

Mom stole this. She was out there shaking ass.

[Flip]

Shout out to her.

[Ian]

Too late.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Freeze]

Hey, hey.

[Flip]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on here?

[Joe Button]

Here we go.

[Flip]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Said you roller blazer.

[Flip]

30 and up 30, up 40 and up 40 and up. 50 and up.

[Freeze]

Out there, all the parents and the

[Flip]

grandparents to the dead floor.

[Ian]

Hey. Need you do you need me? Do you need me in the way I really want you do you want me do you want me in the way I really need you do you need do you me in the way I really want you. Make your.

[Party]

When I see.

[Ian]

Not enough. Wasted.

[Joe Button]

Y' all see the Michael numbers came back, huh?

[Corey]

Yeah, numbers on the boards.

[Joe Button]

Numbers on the boards for sure. I think they said they confirmed. Confirmed that a part two will be coming. I think we knew that once the numbers came back.

[Ian]

I'm not dangerous. When you're mine I'll be generous. You're irreplaceable just like my china. Favorite, favorite.

[Joe Button]

Mark, you good. I.

[Flip]

Who is that?

[Freeze]

It's Mark Lamont Hill.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pussy from the Weber nitty era.

[Freeze]

It's the net.

[Flip]

What episode is this?

[Corey]

924.

[Flip]

Welcome to episode 924 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Powered by Feud, by Prize Pitch, Prize Pitch Gang. Yo, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Queens get the money. Queens flip in the building next to him. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Mr. Thousand Doors and up. Big Ish in the building next to him. Mr. Take it further himself. Freeze is here next to him. Elmira's finest Big Parks is in the building. White Poe is in the building. Corey's in the building. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and

[Joe Button]

every one of you very important people out there here. How's everybody doing? How y' all feeling? What's up?

[Party]

Still hungry?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Doing good, man.

[Party]

Feeling great. Feeling great.

[Flip]

Still hung over still hung a party. We had a time.

[Freeze]

I'm fighting back.

[Corey]

I'm fighting back.

[Flip]

We had a time on Saturday night.

[Corey]

And it wasn't the Saturday night, it. It was the next day. Saturday night was the impetus. We stayed up till about 6 partying.

[Joe Button]

Good.

[Corey]

Birthday party. Shout out to my love.

[Joe Button]

Happy birthday.

[Corey]

Shout out to all you guys for coming. But then she said, as we're going to bed, as the sun's coming up. All I really want for my birthday is for you to go to brunch with with me.

[Joe Button]

Wow.

[Erickson]

Drunk brunch.

[Party]

Wow.

[Corey]

Oh, they're all drunk brunch.

[Party]

Brunch.

[Corey]

Dudes aren't supposed to go to brunch. I. I have decided. Unless there's football on.

[Erickson]

Relationship dudes.

[Corey]

Okay. If you're looking for. There's at the brunch for sure.

[Party]

A lot of.

[Corey]

A lot.

[Joe Button]

If you're looking for. There's everywhere.

[Corey]

I mean, the brunch gets them all

[Erickson]

in a centralized location.

[Corey]

Dancing and drunk early in the day.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Brunch is where you could fucking by 5:00pm 6. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

[Corey]

But for the most part it feels like, you know, like I grew up with sisters. We all have lots of women friends, but, you know, we accidentally like, hear a conversation and you inquire and then you find out about someone's penis or vagina. Information that you did not need to know whatsoever.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

That's what the entire brunch experience felt like for me. It was absolutely horrible.

[Freeze]

Wendy Williams.

[Flip]

Yo, this guy's crazy.

[Freeze]

Were you the only dude there?

[Corey]

There was other men there, but I think they were all kind of in my. My shoes. But in my party, I was the only dude there. How many? There's only four of us. It was only four of us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had to listen to that shit.

[Corey]

I had to listen to that shit. But that wasn't even really bottomless anything.

[Freeze]

Men.

[Corey]

We shouldn't be there.

[Flip]

Wait.

[Corey]

Yeah, I don't want it. No, I don't want to be. Unlimited mimosas and sangrias. Don't. Don't top off my drink.

[Flip]

Parks.

[Joe Button]

What the hell?

[Flip]

I'm trying to pick up what he putting down. I can't pick it up.

[Corey]

I'm hungover at 5pm It's a miserable experience.

[Party]

No, that's great.

[Joe Button]

5 o'.

[Ian]

Clock.

[Party]

I could go to sleep this off.

[Joe Button]

It's because of his Saturday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Corey]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe Button]

It sounds like it's because of his Saturday. Because if he's just isolating what he did on Sunday,

[Flip]

I get to hear about people's poor privates, lychees and bottomless mimosas going around endless in hopes that

[Erickson]

she gonna be bottomless in a couple hours.

[Joe Button]

And women around. Sounds like fun to me.

[Flip]

But yeah, the Saturday into the Sunday,

[Corey]

it was a lot.

[Joe Button]

I totally get it.

[Corey]

My Monday was sleep. And then I Woke up at 5am today. So it's, you know, it's been a long couple days. Been a long couple days.

[Parks]

You gonna sleep tonight? Are you like the dude that just crashes after all this?

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Well, let me tell you, I had

[Joe Button]

an absolute blast at rim's birthday party. As did I say.

[Corey]

As did I. Weather was not what we wanted it to be. We had an elaborate outdoor LEDs, projection screens, speakers, heaters, tents. But it was pouring the entire day, so we had to stay inside the whole time.

[Party]

And was still lit, though.

[Corey]

Oh, it was super lit. It was just 30 of us in room half the size F. Was crazy.

[Joe Button]

I looked at that rain, looked at

[Flip]

my girl,

[Joe Button]

said, we out of here.

[Flip]

You know how you look at normally when it's raining, like bad? Like it was raining and you look at your girl, that normally means it's a dope.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

It's over and they going to understand.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Not.

[Joe Button]

Not for reming Parks.

[Flip]

Yeah, I seen that rain and was

[Parks]

like, I didn't give a.

[Flip]

What are you wearing, baby?

[Parks]

That's love.

[Joe Button]

I'm wearing the same color.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Flip]

It's time to get head ass for sure. And we showed up to Parks. A few things I like about the

[Joe Button]

function at your man's wife's birthday party.

[Flip]

One whatever couple was not there. I assume you're fighting.

[Corey]

Oh, for sure. Same.

[Joe Button]

It was. It was a few people.

[Flip]

It was a few people I expected to see. I did. I didn't see y'.

[Ian]

All.

[Joe Button]

Mark. Mark.

[Freeze]

Joe's such an asshole.

[Joe Button]

Mark Lamahill.

[Freeze]

I spoke to Joe early morning. I couldn't make it. Cause I didn't have childcare. My wife wasn't coming anyway. No, no, I was rolling solo.

[Corey]

Make it sound fancy.

[Flip]

I didn't have child care.

[Freeze]

No, I was looking forward to it.

[Parks]

Cause I was rolling solo.

[Freeze]

My wife was already.

[Corey]

Oh, that's even more of a fight. So.

[Freeze]

But I couldn't get the babysitter.

[Parks]

Couldn't do it.

[Party]

That's my same excuse. I'm used to that.

[Freeze]

It works. Can't nobody push back. But it really happened to be this one I wanted to go to. I was looking forward to this one.

[Joe Button]

So R.E.M.

[Flip]

has a whole lot of Patterson friends, right?

[Joe Button]

And R.E.M. and Parks are one of my favorite couples. So I gotta, you know, just work with me.

[Flip]

REM had a lot of Patterson friends.

[Joe Button]

Has a lot of Patterson friends.

[Flip]

I sleep on Rem's friend group. So it was mad Patterson Spanishes around, right? And some dude who apparently is famous

[Joe Button]

in Patterson for his nutcrackers. Again, remember, the theme is a 2016. A 2016 vibe. Which to Rim's friends was really exciting.

[Corey]

Yes. To me, it was last week.

[Parks]

But that's just my drawer.

[Flip]

To me and Parks and my girl. I'm like. I'm looking around like, yo, we are.

[Joe Button]

We old.

[Erickson]

We old.

[Flip]

But anyway, long story, less long.

[Corey]

Nutcrackers for everybody. Big. The. The shits you get the. The.

[Flip]

Yeah, the big ones.

[Corey]

The tea from the. The Chinese store.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Corey]

Chinese restaurant. That big.

[Flip]

For everybody.

[Corey]

For everybody.

[Flip]

So apparently it's a thing for REM

[Joe Button]

to hand the microphone to people randomly at the function during her birthday to give speeches. You know, she's.

[Freeze]

About her.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, about her.

[Corey]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I'm drunk. I want to hear about me. Just big me up. So everybody just randomly started getting the microphone and the music had to come down, and it was time to give speeches for REM to honor rem. Ice, you not leaving me alone. Ice, you're not leaving me alone. Jump in.

[Party]

But I got you.

[Flip]

Jump in there.

[Corey]

All 55 people gave speeches at this birthday party. If you were with the husband, the best friend, or someone who just happened

[Flip]

to be there this week.

[Corey]

Yeah, Speech. Speech is coming.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, Joe.

[Freeze]

Go ahead, Joe.

[Corey]

It's okay. It's a safe space.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Party]

Finish telling story every. I ain't got my shades today. I ain't got no hood, nothing.

[Flip]

Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He naked, bro.

[Erickson]

Hey, hey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't got it.

[Joe Button]

Can I go?

[Corey]

You can go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead.

[Party]

He said go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Edit it out.

[Ian]

If.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you start caring.

[Party]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Flip]

I got this thing that kicks. I got this thing in me. Like, in real life. I'm a good friend, so I got

[Joe Button]

this thing in me.

[Flip]

If my man's wife is around, then

[Joe Button]

just old school rules is in effect.

[Flip]

Are you protective of. Yeah, I'm sorry, buddy. Hey, my man's wife is around. That's our wife. Sorry.

[Freeze]

That.

[Flip]

That's how this goes. And maybe some of them there didn't know that, but the speeches were going fine until her guy, best friend grabs the mic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, hell no.

[Flip]

Whoever the fuck this nigga is like Joe Cook, right? Whoever this nigga was, he come up to you.

[Joe Button]

He grabbed him.

[Flip]

We done heard 10 speeches, so we know how they're supposed to go. Hey, you're the greatest. I love you.

[Joe Button]

We have so much fun together. You got me drunk.

[Flip]

I made a bunch of questionable decisions when I'm with you. That's how it's supposed to go. Fifteen people just came up there and did that. Here come this nigga standing all extra

[Mark Lamont Hill]

close,

[Flip]

arm around nobody that done had physical touch during these speeches. Yo, he not lying, this nigga. All right, before you start, forehead kiss

[Freeze]

question, is he gay?

[Corey]

No.

[Parks]

Okay, proceed.

[Joe Button]

He start the speech off with her real name or something like her

[Flip]

with some different. With some different pronunciation of name. Oh, first, nobody else called her this. Like. And he gave her foyer kisses. And me and my girl and Ice and his girls on the same couch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So y' all looked at each other.

[Flip]

He started talking. Yo, you've always meant everything to me since day one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ah, my stomach.

[Flip]

I known you longer than all of them.

[Freeze]

Oh, shit. Throwing shots.

[Flip]

And, you know, back then, he says some shit that to me sound like something that he may be not saying, but in my head, all I'm hearing is,

[Joe Button]

nah, come on, Mark.

[Flip]

Gotta go to Starbucks, man, just to save space. All I'm hearing. All I'm hearing is, yo, when I was trying to crack Smash, yo, when I was trying to crack back 15 years ago, but it didn't, because, I mean, so now we just the best. And I know you better than all of these people. That's everybody here. No one exempt.

[Freeze]

You said that.

[Flip]

No, that's how it sounded, though. No. Then he stopped. Do another forehead kiss. I just want to tell you, your future is bright. I love everything about that. And then it was another four kids.

[Joe Button]

All right, all right, dog.

[Freeze]

Three, four. Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where was Parks?

[Flip]

This Parks was. Yo, Parks is the coolest in the world, man. Parks was chilling somewhere. Parks was away.

[Party]

He wasn't even on the other side.

[Freeze]

He's not tripping.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Party]

Which made us trip.

[Flip]

Yes, I'm tripping. Parks wasn't tripping.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, we tripping.

[Flip]

Parks came up and gave us a speech. Four speeches later, and I was staring money down, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, nigga.

[Freeze]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Party]

Parks in the room and say, all right, let me.

[Flip]

Let me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Male best friend.

[Party]

Let me let y' all know.

[Flip]

Yeah. That's a husband talking. Yeah. Male bestie childhood.

[Freeze]

Far better.

[Flip]

That's a husband talking. Get the out of here. Now, when he was giving his speech, he giving it right in front of the couch that the four of us is on. So I'm Grilling. But sometimes he catch eye contact with me.

[Joe Button]

So I turn my grill to a smile.

[Flip]

But as soon as he stopped looking, I start grilling. Grilling the shit out of that nigga. Man, get the fuck outta here. So anyway, so he was cool.

[Joe Button]

He was cool. But yeah, that was funny.

[Flip]

Oh, and another, and another young lady,

[Joe Button]

I guess another one of Rim's real good, real good friends, she grabbed the mic.

[Flip]

This the only time Parks popped up.

[Joe Button]

Cause Parks was cooking and DJing and in the yard. And this young lady grabbed the mic

[Flip]

and said, oh, if you know anything about Remy, you know there are three

[Joe Button]

things in this world that she loves.

[Flip]

Patterson, hookah and whatever.

[Joe Button]

The third one, what was the third one?

[Party]

I think it was Parks Fetty.

[Flip]

Oh, and oh yeah, because Fetty Wap was on Patterson, hookah and Fetty Ed boy, Parks rose from.

[Erickson]

And Parks.

[Freeze]

Walked by and Parks.

[Flip]

You're right, there's four things here. Oh my God. So the speeches were so fire, I

[Joe Button]

got to implement speeches at all birthdays now.

[Corey]

Speeches is great. The uncomfortability that everybody has when they gotta give a speech is classic in itself.

[Parks]

It is.

[Corey]

Everyone's fumbling to get their shit together. They're ducking the smoke, they're going out back to smoke, they're going to the bathroom, they're going to get a plate.

[Flip]

And she wasn't forgetting.

[Party]

No, no, no. When I come back, you next.

[Flip]

Yeah, you, you next.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Oh, and my last funny thing that Ice won't help me to share about. Fuck Ice. Fuck Ice. Cause just know we was together. Me and Ice get along great outside the bar.

[Joe Button]

Like we be aligned and shit. So the DJ killing is 2016. You know who hot in 2016? The boy.

[Flip]

The boy.

[Joe Button]

He getting into the boy bat. Pipe down came. Ooh, me and me and Freeze singing along.

[Flip]

Oh, they got us. We in the grip.

[Corey]

Shout out to Denise at the cruise.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

DJ was killing.

[Flip]

Pipe down came on Drake going crazy. And then

[Joe Button]

Marvin's room came on.

[Corey]

Whole crowd singing.

[Joe Button]

And that's the problem.

[Flip]

See, the New York that I'm from is old school New York. So Spanish people say nigga with no problem at all.

[Joe Button]

And it's not a.

[Flip]

It's not ever a thing. I'm used to that.

[Joe Button]

I grew up in that rim friends is a younger Spanish people.

[Flip]

So they got more info, they more informed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know what you talking about.

[Flip]

No, no, we was minding our business.

[Party]

I was in my phone, we was singing.

[Flip]

It was a vibe. And the first one came on and 100 of RIM friends said it Fuck that nigga. And then I guess somebody must have looked up. Who looked up? Cause I didn't look up till after the second one. The second one. Nobody silenced. That shit was silenced. Yo, the second one. Fuck that. Well, hold up now.

[Freeze]

Well, hold up now.

[Flip]

REM Friends, now. Y' all have made it awful.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Flip]

Oh, he ain't lying, sir.

[Party]

He is not lying.

[Flip]

Yo, that's funny, B. I felt just sitting there, like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't know, cuz. My girl. My girl be on that type of. See, she'll tell me. Yeah, we the. I like that I be missing when we the. Sometimes she'll tell me, but that was hilarious.

[Flip]

That was funny that everything I just

[Party]

said was totally worth the price of admission.

[Flip]

The brain, everything. Are you kidding me? I had to time my life in there. Time in my absolute time, my life.

[Corey]

I'm glad you came.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Corey]

And your lovely ladies, of course.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah.

[Freeze]

No, that was.

[Party]

Nobody's showing up for y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Corey]

Yeah, man.

[Flip]

And so the guys.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Your man. You rock with the guy.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Hell, yeah.

[Freeze]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's my dog.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I gotta come.

[Flip]

Then another one of her friends during the speech was like, oh, all the sleepovers we've had. All the girls sleepovers.

[Joe Button]

I looked at free sleepovers.

[Flip]

No. Cause she said other shit in there. She was like, all the drunk nights.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

She start all the questionable decisions. That was the one. All of the sleepovers. The way we looked at each other. Hey, add sleepover to the list of shit. My wife ain't getting off. So I'm sitting there, hype. I'm like, ooh, at my birthday party.

[Joe Button]

But why did I do that in the moment? Feeling good now. My girl's like, yeah, try it. Try to hand the mic around at your party and give speeches.

[Flip]

I mean, no.

[Party]

The dudes, she cleaned it up quick.

[Joe Button]

We wanna hear the bitches give a speech. Nigga, that girl gonna have to mute up. That girl gonna have to mute up, nigga.

[Corey]

Anyway, talk about sleepovers.

[Flip]

Oh, that would be bad.

[Party]

Questionable decisions, drunk life.

[Flip]

I know him better than anybody in here at all.

[Freeze]

That's funny.

[Joe Button]

At our age, we can't invite girls that we've slept with to our birthday party.

[Corey]

Absolutely not.

[Freeze]

Is that the rule?

[Corey]

At least not within the past 15 years.

[Joe Button]

It should be a time.

[Freeze]

Okay. I'm about to say, you got to be a more.

[Corey]

Yeah. Like someone

[Flip]

look at Playboy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Max.

[Freeze]

You.

[Flip]

You Cinemax if I play way back.

[Erickson]

It's cool, bro.

[Flip]

Anyway, and that's why we don't joke with.

[Joe Button]

Ish

[Freeze]

Is it women ain't allowed that she know you had sex with or just you can't even have it on

[Parks]

the low cause you wanted to come out?

[Joe Button]

That's a dangerous game. There's nobody that should be at my birthday party that my girl knows I slept with.

[Corey]

Oh, I'd rather she know.

[Erickson]

I would rather she know too.

[Joe Button]

I would rather she know too. But I wouldn't want that girl at my birthday party.

[Parks]

So you wouldn't invite her.

[Freeze]

So you're not inviting the one that

[Parks]

she know you slept with. But I'm saying, do you invite the one that y' all slept together 20 years ago or 15 years ago?

[Party]

She don't know.

[Freeze]

And she don't know.

[Parks]

And she keep it pee.

[Corey]

I found out with my girl and my ex recently, but she was the ex from 25 years ago. Serious. Like. But she's aware that that was my ex.

[Parks]

Like, she's not tripping.

[Erickson]

She's not tripping.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Party]

My girl asked, you hit that girl.

[Flip]

I think I'm for real.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She based that over your character.

[Flip]

Wait, what does she base the question off of?

[Joe Button]

Like. Like just the person she's.

[Corey]

Awkward ass introduction.

[Flip]

She could know him all day. But seeing a woman like, that's why you gotta.

[Erickson]

It might be how the girl look.

[Party]

It might be.

[Freeze]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

She got you.

[Freeze]

She saw them white toenail polish.

[Corey]

You could tell by the interaction when people have slept with each other. Like.

[Unknown Guest]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

And be like, you hit that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I guess maybe his type. He has a certain type.

[Freeze]

He do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Either way, I think it's magnesium.

[Corey]

It's better that it's known. So it's not like that awkward. Can just be out the way.

[Party]

Coming out that part too, right?

[Freeze]

I mean, some.

[Parks]

For some people, once it's known they ain't coming, they're not allowed to come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Really? Yeah.

[Freeze]

That's not my situation.

[Parks]

But I know people who got that situation where, like, if you say, oh, yeah, me and her messed around, I think 20 years ago.

[Erickson]

I think girls a little more secure in that than. Yeah, I think girls be a little more secure. Like, if, you know somebody popped your work, you like. Yeah, I don't know about Stan.

[Flip]

Stan, come up in here. Come over here, though.

[Freeze]

Is y' all like that? Like, if your girl used to mess

[Parks]

with a dude and they cool now, they just straight cool.

[Freeze]

No party. No party invite.

[Joe Button]

No party invite. If you cool with somebody that my girl used to fucking.

[Flip]

Two years ago, talking about some.

[Joe Button]

Happy birthday.

[Flip]

Happy birthday, Craig.

[Joe Button]

Under some comment.

[Flip]

So I Know Craig is flying with such and such.

[Freeze]

She couldn't speak to Craig.

[Flip]

No, you can't speak to Craig now. You can't speak to Crazy. Are y' all crazy? You are nuts, right? Y' all ain't gonna have a real

[Freeze]

talk then I can see so you can't. Three things on the board, Mike. Okay, no, Mic, stop.

[Flip]

Let's stop. Let's have a real. Let's have a real dude talk. All right, let's do it.

[Erickson]

Me and you.

[Joe Button]

Let me.

[Flip]

Yeah, let's.

[Joe Button]

Let's flip it on the other side.

[Erickson]

No, I'm about to say me and you or you on Ice. Been friends for mad long. So if.

[Flip]

If.

[Erickson]

If.

[Flip]

If

[Erickson]

a girl says happy birthday to Ice, that used to mess with you, you think that's inappropriate for her?

[Joe Button]

Dude, you just confused me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It confused me.

[Corey]

And just switching the genders.

[Party]

Park.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

Like, yo, if Parks is Santa, girl, you don't know Parks. None of us know parks. Right, but Parks girl used to mess with you. She don't fuck with you, but she say, happy Birthday, Ice. Parks could be mad at that.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, buddy. Sorry, buddy.

[Erickson]

That's crazy.

[Freeze]

You out your mind.

[Corey]

That's crazy to me, B.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's nuts.

[Flip]

You cannot some nigga that you was in a real relationship with. Three.

[Freeze]

Three years.

[Flip]

Four years and up.

[Party]

And that's his man and his man,

[Flip]

his man, his man. That be the tie.

[Freeze]

See, I think that that's crazy.

[Corey]

I think this all goes out the window after a certain time with your girl, too. If you've been with your girl for like five plus years, all that little to me is pointless.

[Freeze]

Y' all shit is real. Like, that stuff don't matter if you're

[Corey]

a year in, then, yeah, that might be a little crazy.

[Erickson]

No, that's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Happy birthday, Craig. Sorry. Sorry, Craig.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She had to delete it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no.

[Flip]

I don't know. I ain't.

[Joe Button]

I ain't. I ain't really riff about. I didn't really beef about it, but I brought it up as a counter. But it was noteworthy for something that I did.

[Freeze]

Get that in your back pocket.

[Erickson]

You're not.

[Parks]

You not right?

[Freeze]

But that spice is Ice.

[Flip]

You ain't said a word this whole podcast.

[Freeze]

No, I just.

[Erickson]

I just hit him.

[Flip]

Say something.

[Parks]

Now, listen, listen.

[Erickson]

Parks.

[Freeze]

Parks.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

If.

[Party]

If.

[Freeze]

Look at each other.

[Joe Button]

Why you covering your mouth?

[Freeze]

Because I don't want to.

[Erickson]

You know, I mean, these niggas is different.

[Freeze]

If.

[Erickson]

Or had a man and they said, happy Birthday, Ice. You think that's incorrect?

[Corey]

You don't have to repeat it. God damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Duh.

[Freeze]

Sorry.

[Erickson]

If they got a new man. The relationship that Ice had with those girls and if they said, happy birthday, Ice, but they used to deal with you, they man, you'll be mad at that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

You are insane.

[Freeze]

That's crazy.

[Erickson]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, I'm crazy.

[Flip]

Oh, we know that's crazy.

[Freeze]

As long as you know.

[Flip]

Don't. Don't beat me down with, oh, that's

[Joe Button]

my fucking ex's friend. And we still fly 25 years later.

[Freeze]

Who the fuck are you thinking.

[Flip]

Who the fuck do you say you talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You did the exact friend is trying to smash or wanted to smash.

[Joe Button]

No, I think that the.

[Flip]

The ex friend is the plug. The ex friend is the. The link is the

[Freeze]

stretch, though, Especially if you serious your girl.

[Corey]

That's that part to me again. All the rules is out the window.

[Freeze]

I've been together too long to worry about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Trust is the fact.

[Joe Button]

See? And that's why you can't have this talk. Because now y' all keep trying to paint it as if I'm worried about it.

[Freeze]

I don't think you're worried about it. I don't think you worried.

[Flip]

But that's just.

[Joe Button]

No, you're not getting that off of me.

[Freeze]

I think you're just doing it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you.

[Flip]

Are you allowed to do it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are you allowed to do it?

[Erickson]

Are you allowed to be cool with

[Mark Lamont Hill]

your ex girlfriend's friends?

[Party]

How much money I got?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which I didn't have an issue with you being.

[Flip]

I mean, when I say it's not that I'm not. It's not allowed or not allowed. That don't happen with me.

[Corey]

You don't say send well wishes in general to.

[Flip]

Okay, there's none of my friends. I don't have a ex's friend like an ex that had a best friend, right hand man or woman that I still communicate with.

[Erickson]

But you might.

[Flip]

Why would I be doing it?

[Corey]

No.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not.

[Erickson]

That's all you conflating the two things. You might not communicate with them, like on a consistent level, but if you seen it was their birthday and you just said happy birthday, I wouldn't give a.

[Flip]

About their birthday enough to go to. To the text and send a happy birthday. I don't send y' all happy birthday.

[Freeze]

You're not unfollowing them?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Freeze]

How about you, Ice? I know you have.

[Flip]

You have certain traditional things down there.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm crazy.

[Flip]

It's not. I sound crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Og. You got it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. There you go.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

How about you? Are you on the same time?

[Party]

I think I am.

[Freeze]

That's what he.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Party]

I don't know if I'm cool with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, Freeze.

[Party]

That's crazy to me.

[Erickson]

Happy Birthday, especially I can see on social media. But, like, I'm shocked with you because you've been the dude that had real relationships with these girls, not on some straight platonic brotherhood shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying?

[Erickson]

So if they said happy birthday to Ice, I don't see how you would feel. A type of way like, that's crazy to me. Like, you might not go out your way to communicate with them or keep in contact with them, but if you

[Party]

can't, why you say happy birthday to.

[Erickson]

But if you came across your timeline and you just saw it like, yo, you famous. So they might say, yo, happy birthday, Ice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Once you end the relationship, you end the relationship with. Everybody's connected. Would you still be cool?

[Party]

I don't.

[Freeze]

Would you still.

[Flip]

You're talking to a person that's still cool with family. Ice is cool with the brother.

[Erickson]

Yeah, but that's a controversial.

[Freeze]

That's why I don't get it. That's why.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry. Would you still be cool with your ex's parent if you had a relationship with them? If you had a relationship with your ex parent and y' all were real close even though y' all broke up, would you still check on her?

[Joe Button]

Would you still.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't feel like what I'm saying applies to.

[Flip]

To parents.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Corey]

Or siblings, cousins, family in general.

[Joe Button]

I can't think of too many instances where that's happened for me. When am I tight enough with the girl cousin with 20 years later, I want to talk to this person.

[Parks]

Well, see, I. I keep that rel.

[Freeze]

I still talk to my exes and

[Parks]

brothers and cousins, and y' all clown

[Party]

me up here for. I told you how close I am with my ex brother.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I be clowned because it was funny, but I get it.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Party]

You gonna call me soon as you see this?

[Erickson]

I spoke to my ex.

[Flip]

Oh, no.

[Joe Button]

I'm fucking phony because I got ex. Who. When I. And when I see her sister, I don't fly with her. I'm phony. That's not true.

[Flip]

I'm wrong. Duh.

[Corey]

But, Craig, no happy chance.

[Erickson]

I ain't want to call you out. My man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You knew it.

[Joe Button]

My sister got ass, right?

[Flip]

And sometimes you got to meet. She do. And she ain't as young as she

[Joe Button]

was back in the day.

[Flip]

Easy. Little lucky.

[Freeze]

I'M just.

[Flip]

I'm just saying, when the oldest is the 27, and then the younger sister's 23, back then it's like a big deal.

[Joe Button]

It's a very big deal. In your 40s, she. She. 39, right?

[Flip]

41. Oh, we talking. Come on, we got to talk about. We do have the big news of the week.

[Parks]

The big news of the week, unfortunately.

[Joe Button]

Come on, Mark.

[Parks]

No, I'm. An announcement came across my timeline, and it was.

[Freeze]

It shook the world.

[Parks]

Meg, Thee stallion and Klay Thompson are no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn, Gina.

[Flip]

I was.

[Joe Button]

Fuck her.

[Parks]

Meg came to her first. She went to her ig, naturally, of course.

[Freeze]

The stories, not the posts.

[Erickson]

Oh, no.

[Parks]

On the black screen and wrote cheating. Had me around your whole family playing house. Got cold feet holding you down through all your horrible mood swings and treatment toward me during your basketball season. Now you don't know if you can be monogamous. Five question marks. I need a real break after this one by y'.

[Ian]

All.

[Parks]

And so we saw that. Not exactly a blind item.

[Freeze]

Right.

[Parks]

It was pretty clear what she was

[Party]

talking about, for sure.

[Parks]

But then she made a formal statement to. To the media, specifically tmz.

[Corey]

Thank God. Clear it up, Meg, because, you know,

[Freeze]

there was a lot of speculation.

[Corey]

Yeah, true. We didn't know what was happening. Yeah.

[Freeze]

So she went to TMZ and cleared it all up. She said, I've made the decision to

[Parks]

end my relationship with Clay.

[Freeze]

Trust, fidelity, and respect are non negotiable

[Parks]

for me in a relationship. And when those values are compromised, there's no real path forward. I'm taking this time to prioritize myself and move ahead with peace and clarity.

[Freeze]

Okay. And then there's just one more little piece of information y' all want to know.

[Parks]

She was on Broadway doing Moulin Rouge.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

First gendered woman person to play this character. History making.

[Freeze]

She left early Saturday. She got a standing ovation on Broadway,

[Parks]

and it's announced that she's leaving her stint on Broadway early. I'm.

[Erickson]

Friday's the last day.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's assumed that Friday, May 1, is the last day because of all the drama.

[Freeze]

So it's a lot going on.

[Corey]

I didn't know she was doing that.

[Parks]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Corey]

I can't believe she would throw that away because of a little heartbreak.

[Erickson]

And I heard she's killing big heartbreak

[Corey]

barks because they're playing house.

[Party]

She's in new york city.

[Parks]

What you thinking?

[Erickson]

Oh, nothing.

[Party]

I'm just saying she could find another house.

[Parks]

Well, let me say, as y' all are queuing up your remarks. I was sad for the girl. I'm a Meg fan and I always support her.

[Freeze]

And I remember a couple months ago when I was like, yo, they doing a lot fast. And some of y' all was getting on me.

[Parks]

And then all the Meg thee Stallion

[Freeze]

fans was attacking me.

[Parks]

And I'm a Meg the Stallion fan, but they were attacking me. Why are you hating on their relationship?

[Freeze]

All I said was, it's moving kind of fast.

[Parks]

Maybe you don't name a boat after somebody. Maybe y' all don't do everything. All the videos, all that. Because I'm, you know.

[Freeze]

Not because I don't want y' all to win, but because relation.

[Parks]

Most celebrity relationships just don't last.

[Corey]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

What's the name of Meg first album, Mark?

[Freeze]

I don't remember. She made an album.

[Joe Button]

What's the name of Meg's second project, Mark?

[Freeze]

She made a second project. She raps.

[Corey]

That's the one that Ish liked, I think.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Parks]

Which one?

[Joe Button]

Just be up here getting shit off.

[Freeze]

I'm a big fan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What are you a fan of?

[Freeze]

The first album I actually liked, I

[Parks]

just thought it sounded like one long.

[Freeze]

I liked the tracks that I liked,

[Parks]

but it just sounded like one long strip club.

[Joe Button]

Like, what's some of your favorite. What's some of your favorite songs from there?

[Parks]

Savage is gonna be my main one. I mean, I also liked her on WAP. I liked her on the deep kill.

[Freeze]

I'm 47 years old. What do you want me to be doing? I'm not a hottie. My daughter. So for context.

[Flip]

No, Mark, you know, you don't have to do this.

[Freeze]

This is the truth. For context. In high school. In high school, my daughter was a

[Parks]

huge Meg thee Stallion fan.

[Freeze]

Why is that funny?

[Flip]

He just says, mark, don't worry, I'm with you.

[Freeze]

I'm with you. My daughter was a big Meg fan. So she put Meg on kind of my radar.

[Parks]

She was like obsessed with Meg when she was in high school.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, right, right.

[Freeze]

So when she would play Meg, I listened to it.

[Parks]

You know what I mean? And then when all this shit happened

[Freeze]

with Tory, I became a supporter of

[Parks]

her and a fan of hers.

[Freeze]

Less cause of the music and more

[Parks]

because of everything that happened to her.

[Joe Button]

Of course.

[Parks]

So I'm always rooting for her cause of that. Not because I'm putting a big playlist.

[Joe Button]

So you're not a fan of her at all?

[Freeze]

I am a fan of her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But she got you.

[Parks]

You're just a supporter and you're a

[Flip]

supporter and A horrible injustice.

[Freeze]

Y' all make a distinction between fan and supporter. When she makes music, I like it.

[Parks]

I didn't like the last project as much as the first project, but I like her music.

[Freeze]

I like it.

[Joe Button]

But you like her more since she got shot. Since she got shot.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

I like Nipsey more after his tragic passing, too. A lot of times I come to

[Parks]

people when something happens as an older person.

[Freeze]

Like, I don't.

[Parks]

I'm not in the mix as much. So, yeah, like, I learned more about

[Freeze]

Nipsey after he passed.

[Parks]

I learned more about Megan after she got shot. I learned more about artists when things happen.

[Freeze]

I learned.

[Parks]

See, I heard more Tory after he got locked up. You know what I mean?

[Freeze]

So sometimes you just find out late.

[Joe Button]

No, I totally understand, Mama. We got you. I see where you coming from, picking up what you're putting down.

[Flip]

So listen. So Meg and Clay broke up. This was like, over the weekend or some shit.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

And I immediately got a bunch of texts to my phone saying,

[Joe Button]

go easy.

[Flip]

I got texts to my phone from people I ain't speak to in ages.

[Joe Button]

Like, yo, I know you saw the news.

[Flip]

I know how you feel.

[Joe Button]

Don't you go in there and go crazy.

[Corey]

Oh, we're not beating the allegation.

[Erickson]

So.

[Flip]

So. So I. I on. On a weekend.

[Joe Button]

I'm off.

[Freeze]

I'm off work.

[Joe Button]

I ain't thinking nothing about these hip hop.

[Flip]

I was taking it back. I was like, yo, what do you think of me that I'm that invested in this girl's relationship to come in? People cheat every day.

[Joe Button]

People.

[Corey]

NBA players, stars. Stars.

[Flip]

People break up every day. And while I am on record for

[Joe Button]

saying that I don't all the way with the girl.

[Flip]

For me, that doesn't mean actively rooting

[Joe Button]

against somebody or celebrating when something goes wrong in their life.

[Flip]

I thought that was a little weird

[Joe Button]

until I opened up the Internet and I saw. Go ahead, finish cooking, Cory.

[Flip]

I opened up the Internet and saw men were on the timeline. Like, throwing parties, balloons.

[Parks]

That's the shit I'm talking about.

[Flip]

Confetti, think pieces. Yeah, that's right. Go for Clay. Like, he won the chip again. And then it was like, yeah, I must have really, really misrepresented myself somewhere

[Joe Button]

throughout the course of my career.

[Flip]

Whatever you guys think about me, I probably given you enough reason to think it, but you.

[Corey]

This is off.

[Joe Button]

I'm not celebrating this lady's breakup. There's nothing I didn't. What? Why?

[Flip]

Why do I. Why don't I care?

[Corey]

Why would you even be that invested.

[Flip]

Yeah. Why do I care that this.

[Corey]

Why is anybody that invested Outside of them too?

[Freeze]

That's all I'm saying. People feel strong about her, so they have strong reactions. But whatever you think about Meg, good

[Parks]

or bad, to me to be rooting for a breakup.

[Freeze]

I mean, people were making infographics about all the dudes she's dated, allegedly slept with. It's weird. That's all I'm saying.

[Parks]

I happen to like her, but even

[Freeze]

if I didn't, there are people who I don't like when they have a breakup.

[Parks]

I'm not out here running down their carfax.

[Joe Button]

It's weird.

[Flip]

Yeah. And if you know me for real, I'm more of a fan of love than I am a not fan of Meg. I'm a sad a little bit.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Know what I think it was.

[Flip]

I was happy for. I was talking.

[Joe Button]

So talk n. I'm on you, nigga. I ain't forget.

[Flip]

I ain't forget that oxtail G. You think it's like you. You think it's over, nigga? No, I. I was the family photos and Clay having her around the family warmed my heart.

[Joe Button]

Because she doesn't have family. True. So when the breakup shit was announced, that's the first thing I thought. Like. Oh, damn it.

[Flip]

That. That one hurts.

[Joe Button]

Cause I thought they was, you know.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You know.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I thought they was doing the thing I didn't see.

[Freeze]

That's the shit that bothered me. Cause remember when it was happening, I was like, this is moving too fast.

[Parks]

And some people up here was even like, chill, like, let her live.

[Joe Button]

It was moving too fast.

[Flip]

And I'm on the record. Put me on the record.

[Joe Button]

I don't believe anything that comes from Meg. Thee stallion.

[Flip]

I don't take.

[Joe Button]

I take it all with a grain of salt.

[Flip]

So why it moved so fast? I don't know why you announced the breakup. I don't know. For me, with her, it's never as clear as it seems.

[Freeze]

He was in it too, though. So that's why I. And I don't assume

[Joe Button]

this way. You about to get shaky.

[Freeze]

No, I'm not. I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What does.

[Flip]

He was in it too means.

[Joe Button]

What does that mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He.

[Freeze]

It's not like he was a willful participant. Yeah. Like, sometimes you see videos where the dude is just kind of there in the video because he kind of has to be.

[Parks]

Cause his girl is videotaping.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Freeze]

But he was starting to, like, pull

[Parks]

her in on the red carpets. He was starting to say stuff.

[Freeze]

I'm just saying, like, he's. What I think is they both fell in love.

[Parks]

They both nose was open, and they both went to the media. Cause people do sometime when they're in love.

[Freeze]

And then he may have just lost interest faster than she did. And now you out there. That's what it looked. That's what it looked like to me from the outside.

[Corey]

Maybe he didn't lose interest. Maybe he was just. Maybe he slipped and fell.

[Parks]

Fair enough.

[Corey]

It happens to the best of them, dawg.

[Party]

Fam.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Come on.

[Erickson]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

Ish. Please scoop me.

[Erickson]

You're not gonna use me to beat a motherfucker.

[Flip]

No, we'll do it together.

[Freeze]

We'll do it together.

[Erickson]

It's a few things, I think that. I think I could address all the points.

[Freeze]

Points.

[Erickson]

I think it's whack when men are sitting on the Internet rooting for somebody's demise. I think that's goofy trash. I think what happened was women started killing this, and men kind of came to his defense a little bit. And then doing that, they started killing Meg.

[Corey]

Why were the women killing him?

[Erickson]

Because she put it out there like, yo, she was cheating.

[Ian]

Oh.

[Flip]

Oh, I thought you meant prior to

[Erickson]

me around his family.

[Corey]

Got you.

[Freeze]

Not.

[Party]

Not just that, though. It's back to our other. Pick a side conversation. There was a lot of people that was on the other side when the whole trial thing went, and they are forever against her.

[Flip]

So any bad news, that's a breakup.

[Erickson]

No, I'm not even talking about that.

[Party]

I'm talking about why people were reacting a certain way on social media. There's people that. She's public enemy number one. So when anything negative news attached to her comes out, they're ready to celebrate. Aha.

[Flip]

See, I never want to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To be that.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Freeze]

That's very. It's a more.

[Party]

It's a more.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Corey]

It's very incelish.

[Erickson]

I wasn't even on. I'm just talking about people started killing Clay. Like, people started killing Clay. And so I think men started coming to his rescue a little bit. And you could come to his rescue without dissing Meg. You get what I'm saying? Like, the two things don't have to be true. Like, as men, we could speak from men brain and say, yo, dawg, it ran its course. Like, yo, dog. And this is going to sound horrible. Really horrible. Ladies, I want y' all to know, when a dude brings you all around his family, that don't mean he loves. That don't mean nothing. That'll mean he Gonna say, yo, it's aunts and mothers that know 6 and 7 and 8 and 9 and 10 children.

[Freeze]

But it depends on the dude.

[Erickson]

It is. It does depend on.

[Freeze]

Because if I bring you around my family, it means.

[Corey]

It doesn't mean nothing, but it doesn't necessarily mean everything.

[Parks]

It don't mean you get married.

[Party]

It means a lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's some guys that use the family card to get what they want.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Erickson]

It's all like. A lot of dudes bring them all home. A lot of dudes bring them all home.

[Joe Button]

It's true.

[Corey]

It depends on the girl too, sometimes.

[Freeze]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

It just depends on the.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I've seen both.

[Erickson]

So. So they like, yo, why would you bring her around his family? Like he named the boat after yo, dog, it might have been going good. He might have gotten some intel. He might have gotten some information that's pushed him the other way, made him pivot. It's a lot of things that go on in relationships. It don't necessarily got to be, yo, this dude had these bad intentions when he met this girl throughout the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry, I don't think it's information. I think that once you start. If you're dealing with somebody, you gotta start staying together and you start seeing more of them, you realize that I don't want to marry this person, dog. They had a whole bunch of my life.

[Flip]

Or maybe he just fucked up somewhere.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think it's liable more likely that he got information on her than just spend. She said you got cold feet.

[Erickson]

Could be a combination of both.

[Party]

Or he could have just got caught cheating and when she. And when she confronted him about it, he hit her with the yo, I don't know if I could be monogamous.

[Freeze]

Yeah, it could be just be very simple.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Party]

Whereas, yo, I am a hundred ex.

[Erickson]

I'm a handsome, filthy, filthy rich man

[Corey]

and we've only been dating for a year or something.

[Freeze]

Maybe not even.

[Party]

I might not want to settle down right now. I might not be on that.

[Freeze]

All that's on the table. But, but, but it was interesting to see on the Internet that initial response. Like, like flipj says, like it was almost like people were making.

[Parks]

Adding pieces to the story that weren't there to make her the bad person.

[Freeze]

Now again, those things could. Are possible. I don't assume that the first person

[Parks]

that says something is telling the truth.

[Freeze]

She could be absolutely not telling the whole thing. But what I'm saying is it was like, well, he. She said he cheated and Some people immediately went to, well, she must have done this, this, this, this, and this.

[Erickson]

We don't know that.

[Freeze]

We don't know the story. That's why I don't want to. That's why I don't want to jump on any.

[Erickson]

They started showing clips. They showed a few clips where she was, like, drunk and she was being loud and she was being boisterous. And he was just sitting there with the face like, well, I'm not giving a reason why. I'm just saying to the people that are saying, maybe she was too much for him.

[Corey]

He's not the only dude that gets a little annoyed when they're.

[Freeze]

They made a narrative out of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A lot of times you see something that you want, and when you finally get it, nigga, you don't want it no more. It's life, yo, I wanted that, nigga. It's ill. In the beginning, it's fire.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

After it ran its course. Sometimes that happens quickly, and that's cool.

[Freeze]

But let's assume for just one second

[Parks]

that she's telling the truth about what

[Freeze]

happened, right then it's.

[Parks]

Running his course is still different than cheating, right? It's not about the running his course and saying, I don't want to do this anymore. It's getting caught, cheating.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we're talking about what led him to cheat.

[Erickson]

Nothing.

[Party]

Sometimes it doesn't have to be anything new.

[Freeze]

And that's what I'm saying. Sometimes people just want more different.

[Party]

Or he might not have wanted this. There's so much shit we don't know. This could be the fourth time she caught him. We don't know anything. This could be him.

[Parks]

She ain't leaving him for cheating once.

[Freeze]

That's what we're saying.

[Parks]

This is unlikely.

[Party]

It could really just be dude not even wanting to leave her, right? I just had something over here that I did. I ain't want you to find out. You found out and you're reacting this way.

[Freeze]

And this is the part we don't know shit. This is the part I don't like. We're now speculating from both sides.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why?

[Parks]

Because she brought us into her relationship

[Freeze]

in a way that I don't think she would have done if she had

[Parks]

two days to think about it.

[Freeze]

Part of the reason why it's interesting

[Parks]

to me is because my daughter was such a big Meg fan, right? And so girls her age look to girls like Meg as models and examples

[Freeze]

of how to do shit, right? So I don't.

[Joe Button]

That's why it's really not a laughing matter for me. And we are gonna laugh. But why this is a microcosm of a more serious thing to me is because of what you're saying.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So many people look up to Meg, right?

[Flip]

And what I've seen from Meg now

[Joe Button]

is a pattern of not knowing how to read men, respond to men, communicate to men, or understand men. That's before Clay.

[Corey]

I'm gonna bring this full circle for just one brief moment. That's why the male best friend is not a threat or worry to me. Because sometimes they can give some insight to your girl about how men think.

[Joe Button]

My girl's man that we were talking about since we back there is some NBA player nigga that I had on fantasy one time. And no, you can't keep talking to his best friend for.

[Parks]

No, no, no.

[Corey]

I'm not talking about the friend's best friend.

[Party]

I'm talking about he's a lot.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm back. Now they talk about Happy birthday, Craig.

[Flip]

And the bull. No, for real. So now. So now here we are again. Men. Men in man world.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm gonna just. Just mute up.

[Flip]

I'm chilling, bro.

[Erickson]

You don't even have to tell me

[Flip]

to mute up in man where I'm trying my best in man world. Going public too soon. That's a.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Flip]

We're checking that. You and Bliss, you confetti, you partying, you. Oh, my God. I need the world to know. But the man, we're gonna check that.

[Joe Button]

Like Ish said, you meet my family. You don't have family. You kind of A lot of women. The dudes life now becomes their identity. A lot of women do that.

[Flip]

So yes, when that happens, you're gonna

[Joe Button]

meet some cousins, you're gonna meet my parents. If you can cook, you may even cook for them. They gonna clear the plate. It's gonna look like they enjoyed it again.

[Flip]

In man world. That ain't saying nothing to the woman. It's saying a whole lot. The whole we gonna put our hands together and do a heart and I'm gonna put your name on the boat for me. I'm only speaking to me, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That don't mean nothing.

[Flip]

Would have said, I'm not serious about

[Joe Button]

none of this that we doing.

[Flip]

The boat thing would have been the giveaway. Some dudes love bombs, great one. Some dudes situationship game is the meanest. Some dudes are gonna make you feel like the queen of the castle. But it's a short stay. And women think that all cheaters belong in the same box. I don't I don't got no kind of cheating. So when she comes out public and says he cheated, women will interpret that a certain way. I said, oh, that's. That's a reasonable expectation.

[Freeze]

That's what I said.

[Parks]

What's the reasonable expectation, the cheating?

[Flip]

That he. That he would cheat or he would want more or he would desire more. His past says his track record. His track record says it. The girls before said it. He scored 60 and 11 dribbles says it.

[Erickson]

He scored 40 points in one quarter.

[Flip]

He has four championships. It says it. He's talking legend, legend, half of a splash, brother. That says it. He like, he plays. He also plays. He likes. He like. We know you do. That's why I said men are talking

[Freeze]

now, as a man, and I see

[Parks]

it different because tell me why.

[Freeze]

This is the part I see.

[Parks]

I think it's reasonable to expect him.

[Freeze]

There's nothing wrong with him saying this.

[Parks]

Ran his course.

[Freeze]

This was the best four months of my life. I'm out. I ain't got no issue with that.

[Joe Button]

Okay?

[Freeze]

Shit, I've been that guy.

[Party]

Okay?

[Parks]

You know what I mean?

[Freeze]

But I think if you make a commitment to somebody, it's okay to bounce and say, I don't wanna do this no more. But I don't think it's fair to say if somebody cheats on you, to

[Parks]

say, well, you should have reasonably expected him to cheat because he's the second greatest shooter of all time. Like, or third?

[Freeze]

Like, to me, I think it's okay. She has a right to be pissed

[Parks]

if somebody cheated on her.

[Freeze]

If that's what happened. That's all I'm saying. Again, if. Could you see the. Again, I'm just gonna use the daughter example. If my daughter came to me and

[Parks]

said, yo, dad, I'm dating somebody, he's in the NBA, he's a big star, and he's let me meet his mama.

[Freeze]

Yeah, I'd be like, prepare yourself for the end, right? I would say all of that, okay? But if he cheated on her, I would still honor her feeling of feeling pissed off. But my issue with it isn't part

[Party]

of the prepare yourself for the end. Wouldn't be letting her know that there is a possibility that there will be some other ones.

[Erickson]

Probability, yes.

[Freeze]

I would say there's a great likelihood he's fucking somebody right now is what I would tell her he'll still support his daughter, but she still got a right to feel away about it. My issue with her isn't that. My issue is the way, again, people

[Parks]

are right to do how they want to deal with heartbreak.

[Freeze]

It's just the way she's managing it. I wouldn't say go to social media right away because it affects your career,

[Parks]

it's affecting your life.

[Freeze]

It also puts a spotlight. I mean it just does a lot of things that I don't think you want to do. And I think now in this era

[Flip]

of social media, or you want to

[Party]

do, or you want, or it's a

[Flip]

little, you want to do it Because

[Joe Button]

I'm back into the victim bag.

[Erickson]

Yeah. Let me ask you a question.

[Flip]

And I'm not saying that because I don't know me either. She could have been really head over heels.

[Freeze]

I think she was.

[Flip]

I think she was.

[Parks]

I think she was.

[Corey]

And even if she's not trying to go victim bag, it's a good story for whatever she may have coming potentially.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He knows the game, yo.

[Freeze]

See, I think it's far simpler than that. I think you did something to piss me off. I'm gonna embarrass you about it. I'm gonna put you on front street for the shit you did. Cuz one of the things being the

[Parks]

good, nice, handsome, tall, light skinned guy is you have a reputation.

[Freeze]

And I'm gonna fucking embarrass him. This is the social media version of Key in your car.

[Flip]

Mark.

[Joe Button]

I wanna rewind a little bit because back to, back to reasonable expectation.

[Flip]

You wouldn't say that it would almost

[Joe Button]

be naive to think that this man, with all the things that we just said would be now committed in six months.

[Erickson]

This is what I think.

[Joe Button]

Let him answer me, please.

[Freeze]

I think it's reasonable to expect that

[Parks]

somebody will keep their word, especially if it's the nice guy.

[Freeze]

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect somebody to honor their word. I think it would.

[Flip]

That's not what I asked.

[Party]

That's not what he asked.

[Flip]

That's not what I asked at all.

[Freeze]

The reasonable expectation, you say, is it naive to have that as the reasonable expectation?

[Flip]

No, I said would it be naive to think that that man that we

[Joe Button]

just described is committed in less than

[Freeze]

six months to monogamy?

[Party]

Yes.

[Freeze]

No, I don't think it's naive if

[Erickson]

it is very much.

[Flip]

I think it depends on and factor

[Party]

in that same person.

[Freeze]

That means that you can always blame the person who gets cheated on?

[Erickson]

No, I'm not doing that at all. I'm not doing that at all. Any one of us. Right. I don't have anywhere near $100 million. I'm not.

[Corey]

I don't believe you.

[Erickson]

But right when you meet a person and we grown, bro. See, a lot of this shit is people not in high school. When you meet a man. When you meet a woman that's popping. Specifically a man, because I know women that could sit at home and be totally celibate for long periods of time. When you meet a man that's handsome, worth a hundred million dollars and that is popular, he got girls, cool. Along the lines of getting to like you, he still got girls. When he starts to really like you, he then starts to taper off with those girls and start pushing them to the side.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Cause he's spending more time with you, he's starting to like you. All of these other things. My nigga don't clear out they cupboard in six months. And anybody that thinks else, I mean, thinks something else is naive.

[Parks]

So let me ask you a question.

[Freeze]

At the moment that you committed to

[Parks]

your girl, did you clear out your cupboard?

[Flip]

My girl?

[Erickson]

Now that I have currently, yeah. It took me a time to commit to my girl. In the process of me starting to like my girl, my cupboard.

[Freeze]

My question is, once you committed, was your cupboard clear?

[Erickson]

Damn near. If it wasn't clear, it was almost there. I don't. Again, I'm telling you though, I don't have $100 million. I don't travel from state to state to state and got. He got way more options than I had.

[Flip]

So.

[Erickson]

Hold on, let me finish. So I'm talking about. Fuck him. I'm talking about, to Joe's point, the reasonable expectation of a grown woman that has been outside. And I don't want to blame the women. I'm saying anybody. The real expectation is that somebody that is outside that has been moving around for a period of time has some significant people in his life that he now has to rid himself of. And in that process, I don't know when they committed. Nobody even said they committed. We assuming they committed because she was posting pictures of him.

[Freeze]

I mean, he kind of said.

[Parks]

He said suggested as much as.

[Freeze]

Well, he did.

[Erickson]

He kind of.

[Joe Button]

He kind of. What was the suggestion?

[Erickson]

That they was together because we see pictures of them.

[Flip]

What's the point? Where did he suggest.

[Freeze]

When he. When he. When he's publicly at events, when he's at the dinners.

[Flip]

What are you saying, Mark?

[Joe Button]

You being naive again?

[Freeze]

I'm not being naive again.

[Party]

That's a good point.

[Flip]

Celebrities.

[Parks]

Celebrities.

[Flip]

We talking about celebrities?

[Freeze]

Let me just tell you what I'm. Let me just say it before you tell me I'm naive about it.

[Parks]

Let me just finish this off.

[Freeze]

What I'm saying is, in public, he has claimed her as his woman. I think that. Could they, behind the scenes, have a.

[Flip]

Has he said publicly, this is my woman?

[Freeze]

Yes, now.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Because I haven't heard.

[Freeze]

That's what I'm trying to say. So now what they have behind the scenes, he could have said, this is my woman is still behind the scenes. They could be polyamorous. I don't know their situation, but I don't think it's. But they certainly were in a relationship, and he's. He's own. He's.

[Parks]

He's very specifically said that.

[Flip]

I just think you should have.

[Joe Button]

I think you should have more info than most when it comes to celebrities and the games that celebrities play, especially when it comes to relationships.

[Flip]

So who cares that he said something publicly? They was playing the PR game. They was being seen at events. They was being seen. They was doing the thing.

[Freeze]

The premise of this part of the conversation, I didn't.

[Flip]

I, as an outsider, looked at that and said. And doubled down in my. Okay, he's not serious.

[Erickson]

Yeah, I don't know. He's not serious, and I don't know if he publicly ever said it. They're saying that they made their relationship public in July of 2025, with Thompson confirming it by posting the photo of them together and attending her foundation gala.

[Joe Button]

See, and that's my point, but do

[Freeze]

you remember the interview he gave at the foundation gala?

[Erickson]

I don't.

[Freeze]

So that's what I'm saying.

[Erickson]

I could be.

[Freeze]

He talked about how proud he was

[Parks]

to be with this woman, and he didn't mean in this room at this moment. He was very clearly with her.

[Freeze]

Yeah. It would be a stretch to say

[Parks]

that he wasn't claiming that he did

[Erickson]

that in July of 2025. Yeah, see, this is where we got to stop being politically correct. If a nigga met a girl in

[Freeze]

July, but he didn't meet her in July, that's a huge.

[Erickson]

If they start dating in July.

[Freeze]

No, that's what. That's what. Hear what I'm saying. The claiming. I'm saying if they claimed each other in July, they could have been dating since January, and in July is by the time he cleared the COVID That's all I'm saying. I don't assume that the he. If he claimed. If they met in July, he claimed in July, then, yes, it's naive to think that his cover is clear. But in July, when we start talking about them dating and being an item, the first thing everybody said was they were dating for a While before they went public that they had a private relationship and now they've decided to go public by the time I go public with somebody.

[Flip]

And that's why you can't say that

[Joe Button]

it's crass that people online are bringing up the timeline of her relationships, because that's what refutes that.

[Party]

Good point.

[Freeze]

Unless they both were seeing other people and then they finally locked it down together in July. Which I think is reasonable for young people to do that before we get to the pattern.

[Parks]

Cause I think that's a great point.

[Freeze]

All I'm saying is it's reasonable to assume that NBA players or famous people,

[Parks]

anybody who's popping is going to have other people. It's reasonable to assume that men are going to cheat. It's reasonable to assume that rich and powerful people are really likely to cheat.

[Freeze]

I'm not saying it would be naive to not think that that's possible, but at the same time, because that's not what's in dispute for me. What I'm saying is, at the same time, it's not unreasonable to assume that the person you decided to make a commitment to, who's made a commitment to you, can keep their word, is gonna keep their word. That's all I'm saying. And so, yes, it's just like if you were to walk through three in the morning with jewelry on in a bad neighborhood, yeah, that's some dumb ass shit to do. And you're likely gonna get robbed. But you also shouldn't rob people. Both things can be true at the same time. I'm saying, yeah, she might have been naive if she thought this NBA player was gonna be pristine. Cause he's the good guy. I'm just saying though, she still has a right to be pissed about it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm not trying to take that away.

[Freeze]

I agree with all that.

[Erickson]

What I think happened, and this is just my personal opinion, I think she was dating a bunch of bad boys. And I think Klay Thompson might have been her.

[Joe Button]

Son of Michael Thompson.

[Erickson]

Son of Michael Thompson.

[Joe Button]

Like it's not just.

[Erickson]

Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Son of Michael Thompson from the Hollywood fast breaker, Showtime Lakers. This nigga's been rich his entire life. This nigga has been handsome his entire life.

[Freeze]

Is he that handsome? You keep saying it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He loves me.

[Joe Button]

He is handsome.

[Erickson]

He's a handsome guy, bro. I give a nigga credit where he's due. So when you start saying I'm six, seven, I'm handsome and I'm filthy fucking rich and I've been Rich my entire life. I think because he's not in the media as much as some of the other niggas that she dated. She thought she found herself a nerd.

[Freeze]

Yeah, Cool.

[Erickson]

Until he proves to you that I'm not a nerd. And now you go online publicly and you castrate this. Cool. Now we gonna go to the pattern, because I was being quiet. And then you get a nigga like Partisan Fontaine that supposedly, from everybody that I know, calls him a great man and a great guy, and you made him look like shit in the public. So some of them niggas that's dissing her online, saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander, they kind of got a point.

[Joe Button]

Now.

[Freeze]

That's a different point. I don't. I'm not disagreeing with that point.

[Erickson]

Because I dissed the niggas that's rooting for. And I was being quiet. I dissed the niggas that was rooting for her demise. That shit is corny. I don't think it's cute. I don't think it's cool. But n do got a point. Because now you. Because now the women are killing this nigga. Partisan Fontaine stood by you during your trial when you lied to this nigga and told him you didn't fuck Tory Lanez. And then it came out that you fucked Tory Lanez. This nigga shaking hands with the nigga that you was fucking, looking like a fucking goof.

[Parks]

I agree with all of that.

[Freeze]

But Clay don't get a free Pussycard. Cause she shitted on Partisans.

[Erickson]

I'm not saying. I know, but I'm talking about the people. People that are dissing him and acting as if he is just this monster. If he cheated, I don't know if he cheated, I don't know why they

[Party]

might not have did that.

[Erickson]

I don't know why they broke.

[Freeze]

No, I'm with you. I'm saying the same thing you're saying. But the difference that I'm saying is I agree with. If you're saying she should have on party. So then that's why is mad at Clay.

[Parks]

Wait, I'm sorry. I'm saying that backwards.

[Erickson]

Mad at her.

[Freeze]

Mad at her. My point is you're saying what he's

[Joe Button]

saying without what he's saying it with. Karma.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And you not.

[Freeze]

And I'm saying even karma is something that you tell her, but that doesn't then mean that we shouldn't be mad at Clay if Klay did something fucked up. Cause what I'm saying Is the fans are mad at Clay.

[Parks]

Right.

[Freeze]

And the other fans are saying, well, you shouldn't be mad at Clay. Cause she did this shit to all these other niggas. I'm saying those are two separate issues.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying fans are mad at Clay. I just think Meg fans are mad at Clay.

[Erickson]

That's it.

[Flip]

Everybody else is looking at Clay. Everybody else is like, done.

[Party]

And that was the point of the post. To get the Meg flans mad at Clay. And they going crazy.

[Joe Button]

They.

[Party]

They sending death threats. They wilding the fuck out.

[Freeze]

Yeah. Which I think is. Which, again, to me, that's not how that should have been handled. I agree. But I'm saying, if you're mad at Clay for doing something fucked up, I'm saying let's assume Meg has been the worst girlfriend in the history of women ever. Cool. Get her for that. But that doesn't. That can't be. That could be a deflection from the Clay shit. Right now. She could be the worst ever and still got shitted on in this situation if what she's saying is true. I'm just saying let's deal with both of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you feel like because you took a stance to stand with Meg that you sort of convolute everything together? You don't want to seem like you're criticizing her, even though there's obviously a pattern of her behavior. Like, you wouldn't. Because you're saying that even if there is a pattern, you're making it. You're saying that, let's watch Clay, but you're not addressing the pattern of what this woman is doing and who she has hurt.

[Freeze]

I literally just said the opposite. I'm saying, if there's a pattern, go at her for the pattern.

[Party]

Okay?

[Freeze]

And even in this incident, I said, look, I don't like the way she's handled it. I don't like going public about that. I'm saying all of that. All I'm saying is that that can't then be a license to. To say, well, forgive Clay if Clay. Let's assume again. Let's just. This is all premise of her on

[Parks]

her story being that kind of.

[Freeze]

If what she's saying is true, then, yes, Clay did something fucked up. And I don't want to say, well, we shouldn't talk. Some men are saying it's not fucked

[Parks]

up because you should expect it because he's rich.

[Freeze]

Some people saying it's not fucked up

[Parks]

because she fucked over these other people, I don't think.

[Flip]

But, oh, God, I was trying to

[Freeze]

be mature today, but why don't start nothing new.

[Flip]

I don't think it's fucked up on Clay's part.

[Erickson]

If you give.

[Freeze]

And that's the part I'm disagreeing.

[Erickson]

If you give your words.

[Flip]

I know, but you expect.

[Erickson]

Should follow through with your words.

[Flip]

Because Cheetah should be noble.

[Erickson]

No, men and people. Men and people should be noble. I get his point.

[Ian]

Point.

[Erickson]

Mark's point is ideal as opposed to being real. Like, it's an idealism situation.

[Flip]

As opposed to if we being ideal,

[Joe Button]

then I agree with everything, Mark.

[Freeze]

I don't think it's idealistic to say, yo, your partner shouldn't cheat on you. It's idealistic to say, that's not your partner.

[Flip]

That's not your partner. That's not your partner.

[Freeze]

Your girlfriend, whatever.

[Flip]

That's not your man.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Freeze]

What are you basing that on?

[Flip]

That's not. None of those things.

[Freeze]

If that's not a man.

[Flip]

And that's why my advice to Meg is just to take care of yourself. Love on yourself. Give with some. Just give with a certain people that, yeah, I feel too bad. The advice is, like, for her, even

[Erickson]

with the being around your family, let's just say, you meet a girl, you feeling her. We've been there before. Y' all on that honeymoon. Like, yo, I can't wait to speak to you on the phone, fans. And Thanksgiving is coming up. If you any type of nigga with this much decency, the girl that you feeling, that has lost her family and that has been through some tumultuous shit over the last two years, gets an invite to your family dinner. Of course, now, whether she is viewing

[Parks]

that as no, See, I would say

[Erickson]

no, no, if you feeling this girl, I wouldn't.

[Freeze]

I've done that before.

[Party]

I would.

[Erickson]

I would definitely.

[Flip]

Of course you would.

[Freeze]

Y' all are better people than me.

[Erickson]

Cool. So now, when this girl comes, don't

[Corey]

they live together and shit?

[Erickson]

I don't know.

[Freeze]

But yes, that's what I'm saying with this idea. That's his. But if they live together, see, y' all move the goalpost a little bit. I don't know that, because when I.

[Flip]

I don't know what he's saying.

[Freeze]

This whole exchange was premised on if what she's saying is true. And then when I say, well, that's her girl, that's her dude, you're like, that's not her dude. It's like, well, that's what she's saying.

[Flip]

Well, if what she's saying is true, Then I'm changing everything.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But he also said.

[Flip]

Because then I would have to believe when she said. He said, yo, I'm not sure I

[Freeze]

could do this monogamous thing after getting caught cheating. Who cares?

[Party]

We don't know when he said that.

[Freeze]

That's. I'm saying based on. Again, if what she's saying is true, if. I'm not saying it is, it's not gospel. But I'm saying the whole premise here is if her version of events is accurate, then she's saying, yes, I caught you cheating. You know that Fidelity, virtue, trust, all that shit of value. And now after playing house with me, now all of a sudden you don't

[Parks]

know if you want to be monogamous.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's karma, yo. That's it.

[Freeze]

That's fine. But all I'm saying is that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shut the ball.

[Freeze]

If that's. If that's what happened, that's not cool.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Freeze]

That's it. He's right.

[Erickson]

But let me ask you this now let me ask you this. Let's just say he was feeling me.

[Joe Button]

Wait, slow down for a minute. Just because I want to understand. Because when poor people. When poor people are in a relationship and you say they live together, you know what it means?

[Erickson]

Yes.

[Flip]

Tell me what it means when you

[Erickson]

say that she lives. They live together. Because I'm looking at.

[Flip]

What does that mean?

[Erickson]

And it says they met in July. Supposedly they met in July.

[Flip]

But what does that mean that they

[Joe Button]

live together when the two people are as wealthy as they both are?

[Erickson]

I. Did she sell her house or get rid of her apartment?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

What is he talking about?

[Freeze]

This is what. I don't know these. But here's what I do know. Look, here's what I do know.

[Flip]

Joe, if you really. It's not. It's not what you paying it.

[Freeze]

It's playing. No, again, yes, it's playing. Yes, it's playing out. That's literally what she wrote in the quote, playing house. That's my point. That makes a nigga think that they together.

[Flip]

Mark, I'm saying there are men out there that play house. Broke men, men, ugly men, men with a lot less play house.

[Freeze]

Jumper not wet.

[Flip]

Yes, those men. Those men play second purest form to reality. So I think that. I'm not going to say, like said

[Joe Button]

that she found a. She found a nigga that she thought was a nerd.

[Flip]

She found somebody that she thought was different than all of the people that

[Erickson]

comes from a family.

[Freeze]

She said, he's the first nice guy I've dated. He's the first guy who I've ever

[Parks]

dated who was nice to me.

[Freeze]

Okay, so she didn't say nice guy.

[Parks]

She said who was nice to me.

[Flip]

So now as a man. Right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I've met women.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Flip]

That.

[Joe Button]

They didn't meet no nigga like me. What I was putting on, and they

[Flip]

said that they expressed it, and I believed them.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Spin cycle time. That's spin cycle time.

[Flip]

Soon as they start. Oh, my God. I never met nothing like you. What happens then is those are the women that want to rush and expedite things because you the guy that.

[Joe Button]

That I've been missing this experience.

[Erickson]

I had a dad, and my dad showed me how to treat my mom. And so because I opened the door for you or because I do things that no other man might have ever done for you in life, you are automatically assuming that I'm doing these things because I'm smitten by you. He could have been smitten.

[Freeze]

He was definitely switching.

[Erickson]

Listen to what I'm saying.

[Flip]

No, he wasn't definitely smitten.

[Erickson]

This is what I'm reading.

[Flip]

No, he was not.

[Freeze]

At the beginning, he was.

[Flip]

No, he was not.

[Erickson]

How do we know?

[Freeze]

No, he was smitten.

[Parks]

Okay, let me say this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He has actually.

[Freeze]

He was certainly performing Smitten for her friends. For other people. This is great. Look at the video with her. And when they're at the. The golf thing with the.

[Parks]

With her.

[Freeze]

What?

[Erickson]

Every in this room has performed. No.

[Corey]

Or been spitting for a week.

[Flip]

No.

[Freeze]

You've been spitting.

[Erickson]

No, no, no, no, no. Some of the niggas in this room are assassins. And I don't. It sounds so horrible. I just want the world to know some of these niggas in this room are assassins. So when you go to the golf outing with her girlfriends, guess what you gonna do. When we go to topgolf and we go bowling, guess what I'm gonna do.

[Flip]

Loveable.

[Erickson]

I'm gonna be the nigga that's trying to win over her girlfriends because I've been here before.

[Freeze]

Right. But.

[Flip]

But.

[Freeze]

But that's what.

[Erickson]

The two things are not equal.

[Freeze]

I'm not saying they are. What I'm saying is.

[Parks]

Well, two things. One, we can't assume he wasn't smitten.

[Party]

True.

[Flip]

Yes, the.

[Freeze]

You can. Mark.

[Flip]

Shut the up.

[Freeze]

No.

[Flip]

What is he talking. Yes, we can.

[Freeze]

You said it three months ago. We were talking about Megan. I said, this shit is moving too fast, cuz. Nobody falls in love that quick. And you were the first to say I fall in love that quick. I move him in, in 24 hours, I fall in love fast. I'm a love bummer. You said all that. And what I'm saying is he could be doing the same light skinned rich that you just did. That's the I said no, you shut the up and listen for a second. What I'm saying is he might have did the same that your dumb ass used to do.

[Flip]

That's what the I'm saying.

[Freeze]

Clip these bum ass niggas up you get. What the. Now all of a sudden you don't know what nut bombing is. Now all of a sudden you don't know what it's like to be smitten in 24 hours leaving with the club and she stayed in fucking my house for three weeks. That's what the fuck you said. That's what I'm saying is happening here. That might have happened. Yes, he might have fallen out of love fast. I'm with you, but what I'm saying is you got a responsibility to say something about that and do something about it. Yes, there's assassins in here. But when you 37 years old and you an assassin, at some point you gotta take some accountability for that shit. At some point you gotta say, yes, I know when I love, But I'm like, no, listen, sometimes when I love, but I'm like, look, I used to do that shit. I used to show up, I used to be president. I used to. I used to do all the shit, all the night sky shit, all the boyfriend shit.

[Erickson]

I'm older shit, I'm tired, I'm in seeing it all.

[Freeze]

They love all that shit.

[Erickson]

They don't know you a c. But

[Freeze]

I never told them that I was they dude, I never said I right, But I made it seem that way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The action, the act.

[Freeze]

I was present in that way.

[Party]

And you knew she thought you was.

[Freeze]

And you let her go with it at some point, you know, at 30. Yeah, I'm tired of shit at 37 years old.

[Joe Button]

See what it's like to be the

[Freeze]

man, you know what I mean?

[Flip]

I know you tried to get your little moment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You see what it's like.

[Joe Button]

It takes conditioning.

[Erickson]

Yeah, it does your lungs, you know,

[Flip]

I mean, and they go right back to jokes.

[Erickson]

Yo, what I'm saying, you way more wasn't.

[Corey]

No, let him get a breather.

[Freeze]

What I'm saying is that. Let him get it together. Now. The first time you do that shit, fine. The fifth time you do that, fine. But at our big age, we know that if we have money and we show love and presence, we Fuck them. We stay in the same house for months at a time. We know what they're going to expect.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Freeze]

And at some point, we can't act like we don't. Now, she should know that, too. That's the naive part. But that don't let us off the hook. That's part of the game. That don't gotta be.

[Flip]

That's his recipe at that point, my nigga.

[Freeze]

But it don't gotta be.

[Flip]

I got this shit patented now, my nigga. That's my move.

[Freeze]

That's not my move.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's your move, too, man. No, it's not.

[Erickson]

I never had 100 million. If I had $100 million at 37 years old, it's the same age.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's the problem. In closing for me, here's the problem. I feel like we do a disservice to the people coming up when we try to not hold people accountable. And the accountable part is not only Clay is Megan as well. Patterns are important. And when you're in a situation like that, sometimes you just. People should know what love bombing is. Love bombing is a real thing. You guys like to promote these new words and these new theories and shit like that. That's a real thing. And niggas do it. You know, Mark that. Niggas do it.

[Freeze]

I love bombed, nigga. You vocally bombed, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You intellectually bombed. You know what you do? Hey, that looks nice today, Dr. K. You know what you do, my nigga. You know the game. So what I'm saying is that I get what. That's why I'm asking. Do you really mean this from your heart as a man? Do you? Or you just saying, yo, I'm older now, so I look at things. Cause you out of all people should know the game. You know it. You know when a nigga pretending it was all pretend cool nigga was a serious. We doing this for the camera. You outside with me. You Meg. But he has a phone. He also cracks in serious.

[Freeze]

He has a phone.

[Flip]

Hold on.

[Freeze]

That's what I think happened. Yo, listen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He has a phone, access to the Internet, like we all do. He saw all the things. Like we all do.

[Erickson]

I hate the word love.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And niggas put that in their mind when we go into a situation, Fuck up with a girl, that with a lot of.

[Freeze]

I said this situation.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We have something in our mind as men, bro.

[Erickson]

How do we. This. This is what I hate, right? I hate the phrase love bomb. I could have been feeling you.

[Party]

That's not love bombing, though.

[Erickson]

I could have been sincerely feeling you.

[Corey]

Yeah, but I was in Houston for the weekend.

[Freeze]

It didn't.

[Erickson]

It didn't last,

[Freeze]

honestly. That's what I think happened.

[Erickson]

And so now when he.

[Freeze]

I think he doesn't like her, I

[Erickson]

think, let's say he gets caught cheating two or three times. Let's say we're gonna throw it out there now. Let's say he gets caught cheating two or three times, and then for him to go to the girl that he's now seeing and say, hey, I have a problem. I don't think I could be monogamous.

[Flip]

That might be down.

[Erickson]

What do we say to that?

[Parks]

That's growth, and I'm with you. I would say two things. One to her, I would say, don't go to Instagram with that. Right. Because that eliminates any. Some of that ego and emotion, and some of that ends up happening is you have no chance. To your point, you might want that.

[Freeze]

You might decide that that's okay. But if you instantly go to social media with it, you destroy that. Because now you've affected him. You've created a media thing.

[Parks]

You fucked up the Broadway shit. You know, whatever. It's a bad choice.

[Freeze]

That's the part on her. That's the accountability flip that I think

[Parks]

she has to have around how to do this now.

[Freeze]

She has every right to do that. I just think as an old head, I would say that's where I just

[Joe Button]

try to have a little grace for Meg. Because maybe she don't have nobody to run too.

[Freeze]

No, she doesn't. And a lot of people are grown but emotionally underdeveloped or they don't have good relationship experience. That's why, again, when I watch people watch her, like, my daughter, who's not

[Parks]

as much of a fan anymore, but,

[Freeze]

like, I'm like, I don't want people to think this is the way to move in relationships. But for him, I'm like, cool. He has a right to bow out and say, you know what? I can't do this. I tried.

[Parks]

I'm failing at it.

[Freeze]

Let me step back. I'm cool with that. But people. I'm just saying people still have a right to feel away. And by people, I don't mean.

[Parks]

I mean hotties.

[Freeze]

I mean, Meg. People have a right to feel away

[Parks]

about the breach of trust.

[Freeze]

And you can't use the. For me.

[Parks]

Well, you know, this is what rich,

[Freeze]

famous basketball players do. So, like, what the fuck did you think I was gonna do? It's not untrue, but it doesn't. It doesn't I mean, if a police was beating the shit out of us right there, this is what police do. Like, we wouldn't be like, stop it, Mark. No, no, I'm taking.

[Joe Button]

It's hard.

[Freeze]

No, it's a perfect example.

[Flip]

What I'm saying is, if people tell

[Freeze]

me why it's a bad example.

[Erickson]

Because every. Do you really want me to tell you?

[Freeze]

Yeah, tell me. I could be wrong, bro.

[Erickson]

This shit be making me look horrible because most wealthy, rich, handsome niggas cheating,

[Freeze]

Most police forces beat people up.

[Erickson]

May not. That's not true. That's not a huge number of police that are just every cop out here.

[Freeze]

And I don't think every. I don't think every dude is out

[Parks]

here fucking fucking on a girl.

[Erickson]

You took away some attributes. You took away some descriptives.

[Freeze]

I'm sorry. Dudes like that. Rich, famous, handsome dudes like.

[Parks]

I don't think they're all doing that.

[Erickson]

Young, rich, famous, famous niggas are cheating.

[Flip]

There are more NBA niggas cheating than there are cops.

[Freeze]

It's not a perfect parallel. I'll stand down on the comparison because

[Parks]

I don't want to get distracted by that.

[Freeze]

My point is, if somebody fucks us up, even though we've long had an expectation, or somebody does something bad to us, even though we had a reasonable expectation that they might do it, or

[Parks]

there's a good chance they would do

[Freeze]

it, we have a right to say to the person, well, this isn't shocking

[Parks]

to me, but you still shouldn't have done it. That's all I'm saying.

[Freeze]

And so I feel like some of this Meg conversation, people keep picking these buckets. It's either, fuck Megan, she's a whore.

[Party]

I never said that.

[Freeze]

I know, but no one up here thinks that. I think you and I are damn near saying the same thing. I'm saying I'm frustrated with the social media conversation, which is either people ignoring Clay and calling Meg and pulling out her body count from 2000. Whatever. Which to me is ridiculous.

[Joe Button]

Same.

[Parks]

You know what I mean?

[Party]

Nothing to do with any of this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree.

[Freeze]

Or it's people ignoring. It's people damn near trying to.

[Parks]

What's the word? When you expose people's information and all that shit.

[Corey]

Dox, dox.

[Freeze]

Damn near doxxing Clay and certainly attacking Clay. He has a right to be criticized. If what they're saying is true. I think people should just mind their business. But it's hard to do when Meg puts it out there.

[Erickson]

That's what I was about to say. I don't think he has a right to be criticized. I think whatever he did in his.

[Freeze]

Whatever he did not by me.

[Erickson]

Whatever he did in his relationship should be his business with his. His significant other.

[Freeze]

That's why I said hotties and not Meg.

[Parks]

Or rather Megan.

[Freeze]

Not the hottie.

[Parks]

Should be upset.

[Party]

I don't.

[Parks]

As a. As a Megan fan shouldn't be up there.

[Erickson]

She should be able to criticize.

[Freeze]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If she wants to publicly do it, even though I don't like it, that's her business. But you know what it's gonna do

[Party]

to the fans, a lot of these women. That's part of the coping when shit goes left. Let me go get the Internet on my side.

[Freeze]

That's what I said.

[Party]

And it ain't just famous women like Meg. You see regular chicks do it as soon as they break up with a. I seen one.

[Erickson]

That's weekend.

[Party]

They go to the gram just to

[Parks]

get everybody names everywhere from back in the day.

[Flip]

Huh.

[Erickson]

What'd you say?

[Corey]

I like your shirt.

[Freeze]

Oh, thank you. I figured that word.

[Corey]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Joe Button]

I can't see it.

[Corey]

Say perhaps.

[Freeze]

Say perhaps.

[Parks]

The drugs.

[Corey]

Depending on the drugs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Obviously you did that as mature.

[Freeze]

Yeah. If you offer me. Yeah. I think there's drugs people should take.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you're giving the wrong message, sir.

[Freeze]

No, I think it's okay.

[Parks]

I think healthy grown adults who watch this show, especially the 18 to 35 demo, welcome to do marijuana.

[Freeze]

I don't think they should.

[Corey]

If it's legal in your state.

[Joe Button]

Funny, Marcus. In closing for me, Marcus funny with his whole let's hold Clay accountable thing.

[Freeze]

Cause again, her, not us.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Freeze]

Again. I don't think the fans. It's not our business.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Freeze]

That's why I don't like the fact that she puts it in front of us. Because now we got it. Now it is. Now we gotta have opinions on it.

[Joe Button]

I want Meg to take better care of herself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please do.

[Corey]

There you go.

[Flip]

Like I'm not.

[Joe Button]

This is. My take is not pro Clay. My take is I want Meg to love on herself more and just pick up the cues a little better and just get more information and get more experience. And she's been through a lot. I understand it. But the people that are watching publicly have seen her mis cues almost in every one of the relationships that have been made public. So I just wanted to take better. So it's not funny to me. I'm praying for you. I'm sure. If she's indeed devastated, then I know what that Feels like.

[Corey]

And don't throw away that gig. It sounds like a good gig, the Broadway gig.

[Erickson]

But you might not be able to be your best self.

[Parks]

She's not her best self right now.

[Joe Button]

You can't put your best foot forward some breakups that you out of work

[Erickson]

for a little bit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Joe Button]

I gotta go gather myself.

[Erickson]

Gather your guts.

[Freeze]

What's the worst you've ever been?

[Parks]

I know we got through the prospect. What's the worst situation? What's the worst you've ever felt after a breakup?

[Joe Button]

I felt bad after a few breakups. I've had different variations.

[Parks]

Like can't work bad.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Erickson]

I used to be tucking you in.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, when did you.

[Freeze]

Before y' all broke up, when did

[Corey]

you tuck me in your playing house?

[Party]

I did.

[Erickson]

You're my man.

[Joe Button]

What relationship was that? The one where after we broke up, you was rubbing her feet in the pool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Never touched.

[Joe Button]

Made that tuck in look a little different.

[Flip]

Don't worry. It's going to be okay.

[Freeze]

Joe, I'll be right back. Stay right here.

[Flip]

I talk about. I talk about me and Sin break up all the time.

[Joe Button]

When I came off tour and my whole house was cleared of family stuff and pictures and. Baby, and that one. That one hurt. I had a few that hurt. I had a few that hurt.

[Freeze]

You told me the first time we met.

[Parks]

I asked you why you left the neighborhood you were living in. And I was asking because I was trying to move there and you were like, my family left me. And like, this was like, not that

[Freeze]

long ago, you know?

[Parks]

This was not right after it happened.

[Freeze]

And I saw it looked like you still had. I mean, obviously you're over it, but, like, there's a way that that shit, breakups, even from people you're over, that shit. Still holds on like you still hold

[Parks]

onto that shit forever.

[Joe Button]

Sin left, took the baby and both my dogs died.

[Freeze]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

Even hearing you now, it's like it's a. Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Them shits ain't. Yeah. We all done had them.

[Erickson]

And the house is big as big ass.

[Flip]

You're just in this dumbass.

[Erickson]

You're in this dumbass hollow house.

[Corey]

Quiet as hell.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Anyway.

[Parks]

Yeah, on that bright note.

[Joe Button]

Yeah,

[Flip]

Mag, we rooting for you, man.

[Corey]

Indeed.

[Flip]

You'll get it right, girl.

[Joe Button]

And if you happen to be with another NBA player, don't just slow down.

[Flip]

Get.

[Freeze]

Get.

[Flip]

Get the information for yourself before it's public.

[Parks]

Don't date another NBA player.

[Joe Button]

No, you can't say that.

[Erickson]

Yes, you can.

[Joe Button]

You can't.

[Flip]

Meg's a hot girl.

[Joe Button]

She like to have some.

[Corey]

She like to have somebody.

[Freeze]

She ain't built for that.

[Erickson]

That's the problem, though.

[Flip]

You.

[Erickson]

You put out this image of being this hot girl. You put out this image of not giving a. I'm a savage. Yeah, da, da, da. All that other shit, you putting that out into the universe.

[Joe Button]

Meeting savages.

[Erickson]

And when you meet another savage, then you want to be the.

[Freeze]

But she thought she got Grand Hill

[Party]

are lying when they got message out there at all.

[Erickson]

You right, she thought she got Grand Hill.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe Button]

That's her bad. Yeah, that is her bad.

[Freeze]

But. So if Grand Hill had popped up with three baddies, y' all would have

[Flip]

been like, oh, you should have known.

[Parks]

Like.

[Freeze]

No, we thought he was a good.

[Flip]

No, Grand Hill been with Tamia since everybody was born.

[Freeze]

I'm talking. No, not just that I'm talking. I'm talking about back in the 90s. No, Gray Hill's a very good comp.

[Erickson]

Klay Thompson, he.

[Flip]

That's a no. Yes, he is.

[Freeze]

He's the son of an NFL player.

[Erickson]

No, he's a son of an NFL player. Pro money mother was.

[Flip]

I'm talking about how they move around.

[Erickson]

Oh, no, no. Hillary Clinton, like Grant Hill comes from a family structure, as does Klay Thompson.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

Today ain't yesteryear.

[Flip]

Meg, don't.

[Joe Button]

Don't go public with these girl, that's all.

[Parks]

Don't go to the NBA no more.

[Flip]

Don't go public.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, don't go public with these niggas. That's it. Just hoard the information for yourself when you like one, Cherish it, guard it, fucking treat it like you sacred you.

[Erickson]

When you start publicly posting these niggas, all that is is a frenzy to everybody else to try to get to your nigga.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah, we haven't learned that. Yeah, yeah, that's true too.

[Flip]

And you, you like I don't know how high or low your self love game is, but don't be used in that way. You, you are.

[Joe Button]

You are a PR stunt for some of these niggas.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

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[Freeze]

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[Flip]

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[Joe Button]

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[Joe Button]

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[Flip]

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[Joe Button]

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[Erickson]

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[Flip]

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[Joe Button]

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[Parks]

I love them. Now they my new favorite people.

[Joe Button]

Prize picks. You killing.

[Freeze]

I be. I've been doing prize picks for three weeks not.

[Parks]

And I'm looking at my numbers here. Look at that flip.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

That's nice.

[Joe Button]

Little five digit. A little five digit number. You doing all right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

To the fans out there that thought Mark was lying.

[Freeze]

Take that.

[Flip]

Still killing them. Yo, listen. Are these the Pistons y' all wanted me to be concerned with?

[Corey]

That series is a mess.

[Party]

No, it's not. It's a good series.

[Flip]

Are these the. Are these the Angel Reese is posting every Jalen Durant lowlight on her Instagram. That being her ex.

[Joe Button]

And him losing. See, this is hilarious.

[Flip]

This is absolutely hilarious.

[Parks]

I got no Angel Reese commentary.

[Flip]

The Pistons are down three to one. They lost to the eighth seed Magic the other night.

[Freeze]

Magic is tougher than people thought.

[Erickson]

Wait, and I said that to you right before the playoffs started and you and you scoffed.

[Corey]

They're very hot.

[Parks]

You did scoff.

[Joe Button]

I did scoff.

[Erickson]

And they match up well with the Pistons. The Pistons can't really bully them. The Pistons be getting off on bullying niggas like y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Erickson]

Y' all soft. So they be bullying y'.

[Ian]

All.

[Erickson]

You can't do that with Banchero on them. They not with that shit. You not doing that to us.

[Flip]

When I saw the Magic play at

[Joe Button]

the Garden this year in a game that I think we lost, I want to say I came in here and said, yo, them dudes are big.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's a big physical.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Team.

[Flip]

And you even bigger and more physical

[Joe Button]

when I'm playing my girl's ex.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

So, hey, I ain't got a call from Jared Jack in a while, but

[Parks]

I was thinking about him.

[Freeze]

No, I thought maybe his phone broke or something.

[Flip]

Yeah, I ain't got a call and that one hurt. That loss the other night hurt too

[Joe Button]

much for me to text him with the key.

[Freeze]

You got to. You got to.

[Joe Button]

I don't do. That's his gig. He works with the.

[Freeze]

I don't want to lose his job. But he definitely called you trolling last year.

[Erickson]

That was after the series, though.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Freeze]

That's fair.

[Joe Button]

Do that one as soon as.

[Freeze]

What can we call?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, when it's over, we can call.

[Flip]

But that's real heartache and pain that

[Joe Button]

Piston fans are going.

[Flip]

They won 60 games.

[Joe Button]

They won 60 games this year. So they going through it over there. So I ain't even going to pal on what else is going on.

[Flip]

What else is going on?

[Parks]

Well, the second biggest news in the world.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Let's see.

[Joe Button]

That is a damn change.

[Erickson]

That's kind of crazy around stop my

[Flip]

game for that, bro.

[Corey]

I had to find a little alternate.

[Freeze]

I was. I got my prize fix dog.

[Erickson]

They moved a game to espn. But I've never heard a basketball game on television without commentators.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Erickson]

So all you heard was the live audience of a basketball game on tv. The was mad weird, bro.

[Corey]

I was at. I had a party. I had 50 something people in my house all watching the game. And now Trump's mugs on the. What the fuck is this?

[Freeze]

For those that don't know, the White

[Parks]

House Correspondents Dinner was this past weekend in D.C. it's a great event. It's like the prom. They call it nerd prom. It's where all the journalists get together. They see each other, they hobnob, and then the President.

[Joe Button]

That's who you.

[Freeze]

I was invited.

[Corey]

Take that.

[Freeze]

I was invited. I just didn't go. Turns out I made a good choice.

[Joe Button]

You damn right.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Word.

[Freeze]

Glad I didn't have childcare.

[Parks]

And the President usually speaks. He gets roasted by people and then they. And he kind of does his little clap back.

[Freeze]

Lately.

[Parks]

Donald Trump hasn't done it. He's kind of the first president in a long time to not regularly participate in it.

[Freeze]

But this year, for the first time in a long time, he's there.

[Parks]

He participated.

[Freeze]

So did an active shooter.

[Parks]

And so there was a shooting scare at this thing. A guy from the West Coast.

[Freeze]

Black guy.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Parks]

He looked black. Looked like a California black. He came and he actually ended up shooting a Secret Service agent who was wearing a vest. So fortunately, he's okay. But he came there with the express intent of shooting the president. He made a manifesto that we've had the opportunity to read. I don't know if y' all have had the chance to see it yet, where he wrote out what his plan was. And this is a guy with degrees from Caltech, and he's sort of a teacher of sorts.

[Joe Button]

He's a teacher, right?

[Freeze]

Yeah. He's not your traditional act, you know, kind of crazy, shoot the president person. But he was there. He was in the mix. Donald Trump was whisked to safety after

[Parks]

JD Vance and some other people. And it's raised some questions across the board. But, you know, the president was alive. One last piece after that to Parks Point. The president, once he was taken to safety, gave a press conference.

[Freeze]

Sure.

[Parks]

Where he made a couple jokes about it, you know, and he also mentioned this is why I needed to build that ballroom.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

I didn't understand that. I didn't understand that part. I'm glad everyone's safe.

[Parks]

Are you?

[Corey]

Yeah, I am. I don't think that political violence is a healthy place for us to live in. Oh, now, I am mature about this part. I also think that it was.

[Flip]

It's.

[Corey]

It looks sketchy to me, with all the people were underneath their fucking tables doing selfie videos. This is weird to me.

[Parks]

That's the world we in, though. Everybody's looking for.

[Freeze]

Everybody's gonna make content no matter what.

[Corey]

In a shootout.

[Parks]

Potentially, sadly, yes.

[Party]

You ain't seen homeboy Stay there and eat now.

[Freeze]

That was my man.

[Joe Button]

He was like, yeah, I with him.

[Party]

Yo, I'm from New York. I heard sirens. Nigga, what you talking?

[Freeze]

Right? I was at your birthday party. All the lobsters I ate. Like, if they were shooting at your birthday party, I would have stayed this roster. Pasta is killing.

[Corey]

He did eat all the lobster.

[Freeze]

Everybody that table. If they shoot a shot, I wouldn't care. That is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a little.

[Joe Button]

Niggas will not just go watch. Olympus has fallen. What's the other one?

[Erickson]

It's by far.

[Party]

London is.

[Flip]

London has fallen. There's a but.

[Joe Button]

What's the Jamie Fox Jamie Foxx 1.

[Flip]

White House. White House. White Hawk down.

[Corey]

White House down.

[Party]

White House down.

[Flip]

White House down. There's some movies you could go see. Like in the movies when niggas be trying to kill the president. That should be such a plan.

[Party]

It'd be.

[Corey]

So they put it in their Gmail, right? That's weird.

[Flip]

It'd be so detailed and coordinated. And they worked on it for years, and now here we go. These niggas have to be the worst

[Joe Button]

assassination group in the wor.

[Flip]

It's like the back pages.

[Joe Button]

Assassination group.

[Flip]

It's the third one where y' all getting y' all killers from. For real, cuz. Then they put the footage. Then they put the footage out y of dude running by all the Secret Service agents.

[Parks]

Yo, they the worst Secret Service, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they was a mess. That video made me want to try to run by them.

[Freeze]

Hey, Joe.

[Flip]

Me, they'll shoot. You're a little darker than homeboy, you know?

[Joe Button]

Me, me, they'll shoot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's why I look funny to you. Because like that, you just feel like it's a. It's a. It's a hoax.

[Corey]

I don't know, but it seems weird to me.

[Party]

It's fishy.

[Corey]

It seems fishy.

[Flip]

It's weird.

[Joe Button]

Y' all can't find somebody to connect.

[Erickson]

I'm tired of the manifestos.

[Flip]

They should, but no. Yeah, I'm not. I don't want that at all. Yeah, I don't want that at all.

[Freeze]

Really?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can't stand.

[Joe Button]

I don't wish death on people, Mark.

[Freeze]

I don't wish death on anybody.

[Flip]

I don't root for people to die either.

[Freeze]

I don't root for people to die either.

[Flip]

So then why you keep saying root every time? Every time.

[Freeze]

But I'm not gonna pretend that I'm relieved when I hear Donald Trump got shot at and they missed.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's nasty.

[Freeze]

It's nasty.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fine.

[Freeze]

I don't give a fuck. I'm being honest with you. There's a whole lot of people, when they heard somebody shot the president, and they go, he missed. A lot of people at home went, damn. Or he had one job, but why

[Joe Button]

play the plan out?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He died.

[Flip]

And then what?

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Freeze]

J.D.

[Parks]

vance becomes president.

[Flip]

Exactly.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

I'm not saying that.

[Freeze]

That's. Let me be clear. I'm not saying political violence is the solution. But a president who has overseeing this much death and destruction, I think there are a lot of people who would not shed a tear.

[Corey]

Oh, that's fair.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I understand that.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't root for it. I don't want it to happen. I would invest my own tax or your tax dollars into heightened Secret Service to make sure no one gets killed. I'm with all that. But once the music starts, you know what I'm saying, I can't pretend that I'm sitting there like, please don't kill the President. Please don't kill the President. Whereas every other previous president, I did

[Parks]

feel a lot more sympathy for Democrat or Republican.

[Freeze]

But Donald Trump is unique. Also, most presidents, they tried to kill this motherfucker three times. There's a reason. I'm not saying it's okay, but it's a reason people don't just walk around trying to shoot every. Most people just vote. You know what I'm saying? Like, this motherfucker, three times they tried to shoot him. That should tell you something. Most people just vote.

[Party]

This voting ain't gonna get it done right.

[Freeze]

They're like, we can't wait that long. Three point here that.

[Erickson]

Oh, man, this guy is crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, I can't. I can't. Yeah. I don't. I'm. Yeah, No, I can't do that. I just can't. It's not.

[Flip]

It's not in me.

[Corey]

I think it's also a horrible precedent set.

[Freeze]

Yes.

[Corey]

Where if we don't like the guy, we shoot him. Like, that's not. That's not good.

[Freeze]

Again, I abhor. It's the same thing I feel.

[Corey]

I also don't believe that this shit is all the way real. Or at least all of them are all the way. It seems fucking weird. And it seems. It always seems to come at a moment where he needs some public sympathy.

[Freeze]

And a distraction.

[Corey]

And a distraction.

[Erickson]

My thing is all weird to me. I don't believe that these people have enough skills to get guns past professionals.

[Corey]

That too. The. The security being this lax is all of that.

[Freeze]

Maybe security don't.

[Erickson]

But we always leave this manifesto or the notes.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

We had all this enough skill to get this done, but we ain't have enough skill to burn the paper.

[Corey]

Right.

[Erickson]

Like, come on.

[Party]

My.

[Erickson]

I'm just not a fan of that. Which just lays out the plan for all of the news media outlets.

[Party]

Look, he wrote it right here on

[Erickson]

page three that he's. Yeah, I'm just not a fan of that. Like, I just.

[Corey]

I'm not weird.

[Joe Button]

I have more faith in the special black ops team that. Like, who did they hire?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I just don't get it.

[Erickson]

And you watch enough docs to see niggas really be like yo, we gonna come through the back door. We ain't gonna go through the front door. I ain't Arnold Schwarzenegger, I ain't Neo like yo dog, this gotta.

[Party]

I also watch enough shows where that guarding the front door. No, you getting ready to come through the front door. Yeah.

[Freeze]

So he lacks or they don't fuck with him. I mean again, if I wanted to shoot Joe, I'd be like, not that I ever would do that. But the first thought would be I could get to that driver. I would just tell him all the jokes you say about him. How often do you pray, brother?

[Joe Button]

You could get to him if you just jog next to the car,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

green

[Flip]

with the lamp, tap the gun, roll

[Freeze]

the window down for 8 miles hour.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Freeze]

He stopping every yellow light. That's what I'm saying though.

[Flip]

So

[Freeze]

that's cool. I'm not convinced it's a conspiracy, but this is the closest I've ever been

[Parks]

to thinking it was bullshit.

[Freeze]

Because to me, if you try to kill me twice, my security should be

[Parks]

extra good, not extra lax.

[Erickson]

No, no, no, not just that. We're in the middle of a war. We're in the middle of a war that a lot of people are against, not fond of. Yeah, like I think his security should be at an all time high.

[Party]

And once they, once there's some shots fired and secret service jump on the President, shouldn't they like get you out of there? We shouldn't see him no more, right?

[Parks]

Yeah, probably not.

[Party]

He was standing up on the side over there right at the curtain.

[Erickson]

No. And then gave a speech like this is, this is a matter of national security.

[Freeze]

Remember when they shot his ear and he stood up and punched.

[Erickson]

Protocol. We getting you down below ground exactly where and you not gonna be coming out for the rest of the day. No, I'm with you is the United States's best interest is at stake at this point.

[Freeze]

Right, but he's the commander.

[Erickson]

He could say my we don't know if that person was working alone. We don't know if he don't know nothing with a whole bunch.

[Freeze]

That's what you should do. I can see Trump saying fuck the protocol. This is my mother say so in

[Erickson]

that point, you're not coming back out in 20 minutes to eat no sirloin out of here. Sirloin. No, it's not happening, bro. I'm dead ass serious. Like that's not going to happen.

[Party]

It's not happening.

[Flip]

And honestly I, I again maybe I'm just a, I'm tired of seeing People shot and killed right in front of me. Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's enough.

[Flip]

I'm tired of whoever it is.

[Party]

I'm tired of seeing anywhere you scroll the timeline.

[Erickson]

That's all.

[Flip]

All of this, whether you like the

[Joe Button]

person or dislike the person, that is being that the attempt is made on like when the Charlie Kirk happened.

[Flip]

I ain't in none of that, but damn. Like God damn.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

No, it's awful.

[Erickson]

That's why I'm shocked. You watch the news?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

That is crazy.

[Party]

I know you watch the news.

[Joe Button]

They bugging you.

[Erickson]

Don't rap no more.

[Joe Button]

Bugging in Brooklyn, they bugging in the Bronx. I gotta know what.

[Erickson]

These little 14 year old boy on

[Mark Lamont Hill]

the train, they kill the guy at the bodega.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. These little gang members I got. I gotta watch.

[Party]

I saw that when the bodega one,

[Erickson]

they shut down the A train for mad long. They shot somebody on a train, bro.

[Joe Button]

15 year olds saying they. But what the news ain't saying is that it's all gang. It's all gang. And actually the news is saying that

[Flip]

sometimes with the train one.

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear that.

[Erickson]

No, they said that.

[Joe Button]

That was this morning. Rest in peace to that kid. Yeah.

[Corey]

We're in the bodega owner, I believe it was on the Lower east side, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's.

[Erickson]

That's awful. I don't want to see that.

[Corey]

And again, thank God everyone's safe from the Washington show. Even though I have my theories about it, I'm glad that everyone.

[Parks]

I'm glad everybody is safe, especially the innocent people. There's another story that's connected to this and that's Jimmy Kimmel. You know, he gave his own kind of correspondence. He did his own bit.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Now this is before the shooting that he recorded this. It's important to be clear. About two days before, two days before

[Freeze]

he made a remark, he said to

[Parks]

the first lady, you have the glow

[Joe Button]

of an expectant widow.

[Parks]

Of an expectant widow.

[Freeze]

That's a good fucking joke.

[Joe Button]

That's a good joke.

[Erickson]

He was cracking on saying, Donald Trump looks sickly and ill, like he's ready to go.

[Parks]

Right.

[Freeze]

And she don't like him. That combo of the running joke is

[Parks]

she don't really fuck with him, she don't like him and he's about to die.

[Freeze]

To me, that's a good joke. If it's Biden, that's funny.

[Parks]

If it's whoever.

[Flip]

Whoever is funny.

[Erickson]

Anime inherit billions, right?

[Parks]

Exactly.

[Freeze]

But the right has now spun this

[Parks]

to make it seem as if he

[Freeze]

plotted it or at Least he was

[Parks]

advocating for political violence.

[Freeze]

And that this is the proof, because right after he says it, somebody comes in and tries to shoot the President. That's the argument. Melania Trump then goes forward and says he should be fired.

[Parks]

Demands his firing, demands ABC fires him.

[Freeze]

And then the President himself comes forward

[Parks]

later and says the same thing.

[Freeze]

Was the joke inbounds?

[Parks]

Was the joke out of bounds?

[Freeze]

Should he be fired?

[Parks]

In light of what happened, what do y' all make of it?

[Flip]

No, no, he shouldn't be walking out of bounds.

[Joe Button]

No, he shouldn't be fired. But there's an attack on all late night. And you know that the right side is watching all monologues and everything said. There's the alert. When you, when you say something, the alert goes off. It gets sent to people. You gotta know that by now.

[Flip]

Shit, I'm, I'm mad at what they did to Ben Stiller.

[Corey]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Flip]

Jimmy Kimmel is one thing. Ben Stiller, the Knicks won the game.

[Joe Button]

And he said, and this was game four. We were threatened to go down three, one, but we blew him out. And he said, got it done. And the Trump shit happened. And Trump and the right and all of those people thought that Ben Stiller was talking about the shooting and rooting them on like, got it done.

[Erickson]

It's like, we didn't get it done, bro. That's some narcissistic shit. Yeah, well, you just think that everything is about you and the whole fucking world just revolves around you. My thing with the Jimmy Kimmel shit is cool. Let's say it's inappropriate. I'm gonna rock with it. Let's say it's inappropriate. The President of the free world says worse shit than a nighttime comedian correspondent. So now we gonna hold somebody to a higher standard. I think we should hold the President of the United States to a higher standard than we holding a fucking nighttime TV show host.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And Trump, if you're watching late night tv, there should be a reasonable expectation that you'll hear a joke like that.

[Party]

Yeah, fuck are we talking about?

[Parks]

And to your point, ish, I remember when Nancy Pelosi's husband was assaulted, Trump made jokes.

[Erickson]

Yeah, bro, the shit is not yet. He's like a kid, bro. So my thing is, if it's good for the goose again, you know, he

[Party]

don't play by them rules.

[Erickson]

Yeah, no, I could do it and you can.

[Party]

Y' all can't do it.

[Erickson]

The M is crazy, bro.

[Joe Button]

And I'm not saying all late night hosts would make that joke.

[Erickson]

A lot of them A bunch of them.

[Flip]

A lot of them would.

[Erickson]

Yeah, a bunch of them, bro.

[Joe Button]

If you're watching the show, y.

[Party]

Stop entertaining this. Y' all don't even see what this.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Look at your man.

[Joe Button]

Good boy. Come on. Where we at? Where we at?

[Parks]

Flip had a story he wanted to talk about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What story?

[Flip]

Yo, hold up. Don't. Yo, don't intro Flip story like that.

[Joe Button]

What story wrong with you, man? Flip had a story he wanted to talk about.

[Freeze]

I'm bigging up on my man. I was really. He came in with a phone with a list of stories he put there. They're on the board right there. The last four. And I thought since we were talking

[Parks]

about news and a good segue would

[Freeze]

be the Fox 5 hot mic.

[Parks]

Cause I think it's funny. I don't know the story, but I assumed it was funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, man. Thank you. Don't ever introduce me like that again.

[Freeze]

I'm just trying to pick you up, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't introduce Flip. That's just my throat pause.

[Freeze]

That's about your fourth flagrant, this show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fox 5 anchor Jimmy Fia. He was just basically criticizing what happened at the White House.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Saying that it was a hoax. They said he had two random girls guarding the door. Secret Service. It was hollowed out. It looked like a setup. You know, he was just saying stuff like that.

[Party]

Like, you know, and they caught him on hot mics and all that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah. Apparently everything was supposed to be off. And. And he was on the mic saying, look at that. Two random girls. You got this guy running through the yard. So he was just talking shit.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

I love that.

[Freeze]

There's nothing funnier than watching reporters be

[Parks]

themselves before the camera go live.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah, I turn it on.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

When I worked at Fox News, that

[Parks]

used to be the funniest one.

[Erickson]

Splashing some water. They'd be like, this some bullshit.

[Flip]

Oh, pardon me.

[Joe Button]

In other news, speaking of reporters, congratulations to Speedy. Let me hit the round.

[Flip]

Congratulations.

[Joe Button]

Round of applause. Speedy.

[Freeze]

Salute. What he did. Speedy's been killing the job.

[Joe Button]

He's leaving his long tenured gig at

[Freeze]

Complex 10 plus years.

[Joe Button]

To go independent. To go independent, Pursue the things that he wants to pursue, Go on his own. It's a big deal. He was really important and complex, for sure.

[Parks]

So talented.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Extremely talented. Real good interviewer. Real good guy. Real good guy. So, Speedy, we rooting for you. Congratulations. I'm rooting for any creator that is on some. You know what? It's time for me to go out there and hunt my own food type Shit, I'm rooting for you. Go, Speedy.

[Freeze]

It's a good time of year to do that, too.

[Parks]

Summertime's a good time to just get out of here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just try your own thing.

[Parks]

Build your own independent thing.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Especially if a contract's up to anybody. Marcus.

[Joe Button]

No, we don't talk about contracts.

[Freeze]

Some of us don't kiss ass. Not our contract.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some of us don't kiss ass or be buddy buddy with the couch, with the 50, with the co owner to get more.

[Joe Button]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some of us don't do that.

[Freeze]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that you gotta stand on your own, boy.

[Joe Button]

Can I ask you a question?

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And all y' all can answer. Do you think that works with me? Like, if somebody is kissing ass, does it work? Does it come with us?

[Erickson]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, not your ass, probably. Ian's. One of your asses need to be kissed. I think what works for. I'm being funny. What works for y' all is showing the initiative and work. If a nigga's showing initiative and working and putting his best, I think that works. I think that. You know, I think that, but I don't. It could be ass kissing a. Could be working by working. Could be kissing ass by working through work. Okay, just asking to me, kiss ass through work, Like.

[Joe Button]

Like doing a good job at work.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's what I wanted to know. That's not what I mean. Like, it's gonna sound crazy, but just being extra. You know what I mean? Work is work.

[Joe Button]

Work is good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you're supposed to want to work and do the best. Put your best foot forward, anywhere you go. But if I feel like some people. And this is not to anybody up here.

[Joe Button]

Not to Mark.

[Parks]

Not to Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. Not to be clear to anybody else, because I was one of the people that went above and beyond at one point. I feel like some people that go above and beyond it could be looking like, as kissing ass.

[Party]

Did you do it?

[Freeze]

Some people just take pride in it.

[Party]

What was the reason why you went above and beyond?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Party]

What was the reason behind you going above and beyond?

[Corey]

How would you think you go above and beyond still?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, not anymore.

[Erickson]

But when you were going above and beyond, what were you doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I can see how you say it was kissing. I didn't say a thing. If somebody said you was kissing ass by trying to go above and beyond, and I could see somebody saying, flip, you was kissing ass.

[Freeze]

You know, some people. Again, nobody up here, but some people just take pride in doing a good Job.

[Parks]

Yeah. And it's. And they see it as its own reward.

[Freeze]

I'm not even being funny. Like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you're right. No, you're right. No, you're 100% right.

[Ian]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just for a topic of talking shit.

[Freeze]

I know.

[Joe Button]

Come on, let's have our Vlad Airy Spears fight. Y' all keep finding things to talk about to make me be on Vlad.

[Freeze]

Can somebody explain it to me? Because this one I didn't really get

[Parks]

in the mix with, like I did with the Boosie.

[Joe Button]

Boosie asked Vlad for more money. They had their back and forth. I played it for y'. All. Boosie wanted to go from 20 to 25 or 25 to 35 or 40, whatever the number was.

[Flip]

They had their back and forth, which

[Joe Button]

is warranted because Boosie is a mega star for Vlad and Vlad is the business owner. Typical conversation there. According to Vlad, Airy Spears pops up a few days later saying, yo, Big dog, in light of your Boosie conversation, I need more money.

[Erickson]

Because if you're willing to give Boosie

[Joe Button]

25,000, then I need more money.

[Erickson]

You might have been giving me 6,000 and some.

[Joe Button]

Some Doritos.

[Erickson]

Now I need.

[Flip]

So Vlad said initially he was on some Aries Spears.

[Joe Button]

Get the out of here with that.

[Flip]

But he thought about it.

[Joe Button]

He wanted to be professional. So he hit Aries Spears. And he was like, yo, I'll go look at your numbers. Even though he knew it wasn't anywhere near Boosie's numbers. I'll go look at your numbers, see what's going on. And then later on, let's have a conversation about it. In Vlad's story, he hit him later, said, hey, I'm home. I reviewed everything, and I'm ready to talk about it. Do you have a minute? And Aries Spears dubbed him and hit him back like, yeah, I'll talk about it whenever. At some point. So then Vlad was like, all right, you. It. Not the part, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah.

[Flip]

Yes. That's the end. That's it.

[Joe Button]

I don't see.

[Party]

I don't see nothing wrong there on Vlad part.

[Flip]

Me either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Every Spears feels like, yo, look, I done some of your best interviews on your platform. Everybody left. Lord Jamal left, Bootsy left, Yayo left is what he said. And he said, everybody left. I'm the last man standing. And I feel that you should give me more money because I'm just here riding with you.

[Erickson]

And what you might have did based on everybody else leaving is just an assumption is leveraged yourself or thought you had more leverage than you did. And so because you think that everybody else left now, that makes you more valuable until you can ask for X.

[Party]

But the part we met, like Vlad said, I went over everything. Let's have a conversation. And you dubbed it.

[Corey]

Yeah, that's where I'm lost at.

[Party]

Like, you get what I'm saying?

[Freeze]

Okay.

[Party]

He ain't like he presented an offer and you felt like you were disrespected by the offer or something. He just said. All right, I took into consideration what you said. I rang your numbers. When can we talk about talk? You're. You're the one that. You're the one that opened this conversation of wanting to talk.

[Flip]

And even that was naive. Aries Spears, you not on the pay me more people list.

[Party]

I mean, he might think he is now, though.

[Flip]

That's why I'm talking to him.

[Erickson]

But you never know what he got. No, no, wait, wait, wait. You never know what this was getting.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Erickson]

So now you heard you paying somebody 25k.

[Parks]

And I did it for 2,500.

[Erickson]

And I did it for 2500.

[Joe Button]

In two seconds, y' all jump in with whatever y' all thoughts I'm shitting on Aries Spears.

[Freeze]

I'm always okay with that.

[Joe Button]

What the fuck is he talking about?

[Flip]

Aries Spears, you not on. No, you not. You on the list of people that should be happy to get whatever crumbs they getting. Your name is cold as hell. Especially since that Tiffany haddish that we

[Joe Button]

don't really talk about no more.

[Flip]

You cold as could be. You ain't. You ain't cold when you don't have leverage, beverage, or nothing else that rhymes with fucking leverage. Picking up the phone, hey, I need more money.

[Joe Button]

Not you. Aries Spears.

[Flip]

Sorry. The man TV days, long gone, nigga. You ain't got Blitztex money in your pocket. He crusty out the side of his face, looking all stupid. You gotta look in the mirror. Before people ask for more money, they gotta look at themselves.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And say, what?

[Flip]

Look, don't say nothing. Find the mirror, steer, gaze. Have an honest assessment about what you see, and then decide if you want

[Joe Button]

to move forward with asking for more money.

[Flip]

Asking for more money can get real tricky. It could go from. It could go quickly to, oh, there's no money because Vlad gonna fire him. Vlad ain't gonna do nothing but fire

[Joe Button]

this nigga whenever the time see fit, whenever the contract run. All that's over with.

[Flip]

Then. What's happening with Aries Spears?

[Joe Button]

Where's Aries Spears going, sorry, Aries Spears.

[Erickson]

Lavish is a funny thing, my nigga.

[Parks]

It is. It is.

[Freeze]

I'm always.

[Flip]

He don't have none.

[Erickson]

I know. I don't know if he don't.

[Flip]

I'm telling you, he don't.

[Freeze]

He don't.

[Flip]

But I'm telling him.

[Joe Button]

Aries Spears.

[Flip]

If you watch, if you know Aries Spears out there, send this clip to him. Aries Spears, you don't have leverage.

[Parks]

I support workers getting what they deserve, and I support people not getting their labor exploited. In this situation, the exploitation of the labor depends on what the value is you're earning for the company. I don't know the numbers, but just doing a quick YouTube search, just looking at the raw data, looking at the raw data, it's very clear. He shouldn't be getting Boosie money. I'm not sure he should be getting Lord Jamar money. Again, no disrespect to none of them. I'm talking about just in terms of the numbers.

[Freeze]

So.

[Party]

Yeah, but now if they gone, you don't get none of them. You don't have no Lord Jamal.

[Flip]

But that doesn't have no Boosie. You don't have no.

[Freeze]

Yeah, that's how you two work. Like, if somebody. I'm with you.

[Parks]

Like, if in certain things, right?

[Freeze]

Like. Like, if I'm the only dude on the team and now I gotta put up 30. 30 more shots. That's different. But the people who wanna see a Boosie interview don't say, you know what,

[Parks]

I'll just watch Aries Spears.

[Freeze]

You know what I'm saying? So, like, I don't know that because they're gone, that suddenly all these new

[Parks]

views are gonna come Aries Spears way.

[Freeze]

So I. I don't. And if they do, he should get the money. I'm not. I'm not hating on him. I'm not saying he shouldn't get the

[Joe Button]

money coming Aries Spears his way.

[Freeze]

No, but of course not.

[Erickson]

But if you're one of Vlad, that

[Joe Button]

should be a reasonable expectation.

[Erickson]

If you want a Vlad's guys and all his guys left and you sticking around, you thinking that your, Your, Your,

[Party]

Your compensation could be higher and a combination of things. Like you said, yo, what if I was getting 2,500 before?

[Erickson]

Might have getting a thousand.

[Party]

Well, whatever it was, first I found out you paying this and they all going, yeah, which mean that frees up something.

[Freeze]

You see, for me, there's two different conversations. Does he deserve more? Maybe.

[Parks]

I don't know what she makes.

[Freeze]

He could absolutely deserve more than he's getting, and I want him to get everything he deserves. I'm just saying, just because the. That's. There's getting 40,000 a pop left don't

[Parks]

mean suddenly you getting some of that.

[Joe Button]

There's a huge. That's. That's a huge misconception on. On the business owner side side to. To say, to think. To assume that because everyone left, it puts you in a position to be paid more on. On the business side, everybody leaving is a chance to wipe it all clean.

[Flip]

Build this from. From scratch differently. Cut some overhead, maybe get. Get more talent for less.

[Joe Button]

Like, try to do, you know, try to do it a little different. That ain't.

[Flip]

Let me pay the last nigga that's here.

[Joe Button]

All. All this money, and now, hell no. Harry Spears, you done bumped your head somewhere. Sorry. And I'm rooting for you to get paid. He's a funny comic, so standup is always there. I'm not. Yeah, he ain't. He ain't just done.

[Erickson]

Amazing. Impressionist.

[Freeze]

Yeah, very talented.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Amazing.

[Freeze]

I ain't hating on him.

[Parks]

I just.

[Joe Button]

You know, speaking of funny standups, I did watch Nikki Glazer on YouTube. Not YouTube. It was Hulu.

[Parks]

I watch it.

[Party]

What I did watch was that Hulk Hogan doc.

[Flip]

I watched it too. I could kill them niggas.

[Freeze]

Why?

[Corey]

She was ass. I was about to watch the other night.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm about to go watch.

[Freeze]

It was great.

[Flip]

But they breezed over what I was there for.

[Freeze]

What was that?

[Parks]

The nigga stuff?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Flip]

And the pool guy. I was there for the dirt. I was there for the pool guy. The cheating, the scandal, the salaciousness.

[Freeze]

Wendy Williams shit. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Freeze]

That's what I was there for.

[Flip]

And they gave me all his greatness.

[Joe Button]

Rushed it quick.

[Freeze]

It was four episodes.

[Flip]

So they gave me his. His introduction, his struggles, how he saved the Mr. T. All of this. And then in the fourth episode, for 10 minutes, not even 10 minutes, they said.

[Parks]

Well, also.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he said something.

[Corey]

It was a little too celebratory of Hulk.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it didn't. Just didn't tell the full story. It didn't tell a full story.

[Flip]

You got the wife there, you got Hulk there. You have these people talking. No way I'm thinking that y' all

[Joe Button]

not about to tell me the story. And then they let Hulk gloss over for a second.

[Flip]

Yeah, I made some bad decisions.

[Joe Button]

I was.

[Flip]

I was. I was in. I was heated one time I was overwhelmed.

[Joe Button]

And one time I said some shit.

[Flip]

Oh, no, no, no. It didn't go like that. It didn't go like that. It did not go like that. So that was the disappointing part of

[Joe Button]

the Hulk Hogan dog.

[Corey]

But it was well put together.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it was. It was well, very well put together. Boy, did they. On Ultimate Warrior's whole existence, they killed that.

[Flip]

This was the first time in my life that I ever heard other wrestlers

[Joe Button]

come clean about, like, the truth about that whole going from Hulk Hogan to going to the Ultimate War.

[Party]

He was terrible.

[Joe Button]

They said he was horrible.

[Party]

They knew he wasn't gonna work. They.

[Flip]

Yeah, they should have said he was really bad. No personality, dull as a doorknob, couldn't sell anything. And then they started showing the footage.

[Freeze]

And I was a kid, right.

[Flip]

So I just remember the most vocal.

[Party]

They even showed him having to, like, shoot the promos over and over and over. He keep up, like, all right.

[Flip]

Oh, let's run it back.

[Freeze]

Do it again.

[Parks]

Do it again.

[Freeze]

I'm like, he's not a good wrestler.

[Erickson]

He wasn't a good personality.

[Freeze]

He wasn't a good wrestler.

[Party]

That's what they were. Yeah, like, he couldn't do it.

[Erickson]

To go from that. Somebody as boisterous Hulk Hogan had the WWF at its peak.

[Freeze]

Yeah, he changed the game.

[Erickson]

Yeah. Like, them had dolls and a cartoon on Saturday. They had all of that.

[Parks]

You had all that.

[Flip]

But as I was watching the Hulk. Because then they went from how bad

[Joe Button]

the Ultimate Warrior was.

[Flip]

The thing was, who's gonna be the

[Joe Button]

face and who's gonna, you know, Hulk, we trying to retire him and move on. So they.

[Flip]

They moved on. Actually, Vince said, fuck you, Hulk.

[Joe Button]

I'm moving on to Ultimate Warrior.

[Flip]

And if I'm Ultimate, Ultimate Warrior was Bret Hart.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Party]

I didn't realize he hated that.

[Freeze]

I had.

[Flip]

No, I didn't. I forgot that Hulk Hogan did to Bret Hart is up. They glossed over that one, too. They glossed over that one too.

[Freeze]

What he did see.

[Party]

But you wait around to take the championship.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Party]

WrestleMania 9 at Caesar's Palace.

[Parks]

Word.

[Party]

He threw his weight around.

[Flip]

Bret Hart was the next guy they were going to.

[Joe Button]

To build around. He had some momentum. He was coming off Ultimate.

[Flip]

So he was attractive, successful, the girl. He could talk. He had all the flair. And then Hulk wanna come back after

[Joe Button]

everybody's off him, like, yo, Brett, never gonna work.

[Party]

It ain't gonna work with him.

[Flip]

He blackballed him, basically.

[Joe Button]

He threw his weight around.

[Party]

But even in a match, the way

[Flip]

he rigged the fight.

[Party]

Yeah, Brett was the champion. He had him fighting Yokozuna. He lost to some bullshit and then had it seem like, you know, Brett was Like, yo, go. Go avenge me. Go avenge me. Cause Hogan came out to help his

[Flip]

man, and home beats Yokozuna in three seconds. And now that's.

[Joe Button]

He's the champion.

[Party]

Now he's the champion. And it was like. It was just a way to basically take the belt off a break and put it back on.

[Joe Button]

No, that was shady.

[Party]

It was very shady.

[Joe Button]

That was really, really, really shady. It was. It was. It was bad.

[Party]

Anyway, I'm waiting for Bret Hart to tell his. His.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he got like. He talks.

[Joe Button]

Bret Hart is the one.

[Parks]

Yo, between that.

[Joe Button]

His brother dying.

[Erickson]

That.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Party]

I want to hear what he got to say.

[Flip]

What's the last thing y' all said?

[Parks]

The Montreal Screw Job.

[Joe Button]

I can't hear you.

[Parks]

The Montreal Screw Job.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

What. What happened?

[Freeze]

That's. It's. It's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's when Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels fought. Brett was leaving for wcw, but he

[Joe Button]

didn't want to drop the belt. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In Montreal. Britt didn't want to lose in Canada.

[Freeze]

Right.

[Parks]

Which made sense.

[Erickson]

Right.

[Joe Button]

With Hulk Hogan.

[Flip]

While we on Netflix.

[Joe Button]

That y' all should watch again.

[Flip]

If y' all haven't seen Chessmates, it's great. But Untold anything is great. Okay, I guess. Which leads.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Untold Chessmates.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Is a good watch. It's a really, really, really good watch. About chess beef.

[Corey]

It's probably some nerdy.

[Joe Button]

Nah, it's fire.

[Flip]

The man him of all him him in the chess world.

[Joe Button]

And this is not the story I was trying to tell.

[Flip]

But real quick, the hymn of all him in the chess world, apparently you

[Joe Button]

gotta go through, like, it's a process. There's tournaments and he's been him the number one ranked player in the world for however long.

[Corey]

Is this the dude that was hiding the signals in his butt?

[Joe Button]

No, it's about him.

[Corey]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Button]

It's about him because he rose through the ranks of the chess world quickly.

[Flip]

And his arch nemesis was the guy

[Joe Button]

that was really him. So then he beat him.

[Erickson]

Who was it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bobby?

[Flip]

So then he beat.

[Joe Button]

I don't know none of their names.

[Flip]

Just watch. Chess mates.

[Corey]

He beat him through the butt, man.

[Flip]

So then. So when he beat the number one chess guy, it was like he had

[Corey]

anal beads in there that was sending signals.

[Party]

What, like somebody was coaching him?

[Corey]

Yes, they're doing some. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Watch it.

[Flip]

Yeah, it's good. But anyway, the new. The New Untold.

[Corey]

I think we talked about it.

[Flip]

We did talk about it. But the New Untold is about the.

[Joe Button]

What's the Atrans.

[Freeze]

The people ride the horses.

[Party]

Equestrian.

[Freeze]

Equestrian.

[Joe Button]

Equestrians.

[Flip]

No, a trarian is in there.

[Joe Button]

A trarian is in there. It's applied somewhere, but yeah, it's about

[Flip]

the people that ride the horses and a cycle story. But watch it.

[Joe Button]

Untold is good until it's really, really, really good.

[Flip]

If it says unsold, I just feel like you should watch it.

[Parks]

I agree, I agree.

[Freeze]

I've been catching up on.

[Parks]

It's old now. It's two years old. Did y' all see the Five Families

[Freeze]

on Netflix when it came out?

[Flip]

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

[Parks]

I. I just caught it. We watched that three days and I was hooked. That is amazing. Yeah, I love Mob stuff. So that's another one.

[Joe Button]

And is that. Is that the one? Because I watched so many of them where they tried to take over to Philly.

[Parks]

No, that's a different one.

[Flip]

Did you see that one?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Okay. That's a good one, too.

[Parks]

I saw that one too, because that's when. That's when they got into Joey Merlino and all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Freeze]

This one was great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are they telling the same story that we saw already?

[Freeze]

It goes a little bit deeper into the New York stuff and a little

[Parks]

bit of, you know, a little bit of Jersey, since that's the armpit in New York and.

[Party]

Watch your mouth, Marsh. Watch your mouth.

[Parks]

Sorry, sorry.

[Flip]

What's Philly?

[Parks]

It's own thing.

[Jim Jones]

We.

[Parks]

Our own thing. Like we're a city, whereas New Jersey, y' all gotta claim the whole state that mattered. You know what I mean? Like, I'm from Philly.

[Flip]

Celebrating.

[Joe Button]

When you move from that motherfucker, I

[Parks]

know that I wouldn't get shot in the ass no more.

[Freeze]

I'm too old for the violence.

[Flip]

What else needs our attention? What else needs our attention?

[Parks]

There's a breaking story that Parks had.

[Freeze]

I'm sorry.

[Erickson]

Oh, my bad. I was saying, how far you got on Imperfect Woman?

[Freeze]

I'm caught up.

[Corey]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm all the way caught up.

[Party]

I ain't watched the last one.

[Corey]

I said, do you think that shorty's a Dedun or she playing him?

[Flip]

Say the last part.

[Corey]

Is she playing him? Is she setting him up because she went back to the dude that maybe killed the girl?

[Erickson]

I don't think so.

[Corey]

You don't think she's playing him?

[Erickson]

I think he got a mental hold on her.

[Corey]

But then at the end when they showed. Dude, was that the husband?

[Erickson]

No, that was her mother's ex boyfriend that was molesting her when she was young. Remember at the funeral? It Was a dude standing in the back the very first episode.

[Joe Button]

That's not who was at the end.

[Erickson]

Yes, it is. The dude that had the jean jacket on.

[Corey]

Yeah, it was so blurry, I couldn't tell.

[Flip]

Remember at the funeral, he looked like

[Joe Button]

the husband to me.

[Corey]

That's who I thought it was, too.

[Joe Button]

He looked like the husband at the end. The very end.

[Corey]

You might be right. It didn't all the way look like the husband.

[Erickson]

No, it was her husband. I think it was the dude in the very first, first, first episode at the funeral in the back of the church. Kerry Washington looks back there and it's a dude standing in the.

[Joe Button]

That's the guy that was molesting her

[Erickson]

in a jean jacket. And I think that at the very end, running away from the scene was the dude in the jean jacket.

[Freeze]

That's what I thought.

[Joe Button]

I thought that was the husband the whole time.

[Erickson]

Oh, that dude's little. The husband tall as.

[Flip]

They didn't show his whole body.

[Erickson]

Good point.

[Flip]

But I'll go back and look.

[Erickson]

No, no, I, I.

[Joe Button]

What you saying?

[Flip]

That makes sense.

[Joe Button]

That changes everything.

[Corey]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Erickson]

And that's why everybody was sitting there like, what the. It was like, yo, we got breaking news. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And they show homeboy imperfect woman.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at any of the plot twists that are going, yeah, I'm not mad at it.

[Flip]

What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? What else do we need? Our fucking Jim Jones versus the Lowe's. The guy, the Lowe's manager, Do we need that?

[Party]

What happened?

[Corey]

We can do it.

[Joe Button]

Tell me what happened.

[Flip]

So Jim Jones drop, man. Where is that drink drop when we need it? With some ice. God damn it.

[Freeze]

So the long and short of it

[Parks]

is Jim Jones was in Lowe's buying some locks. And apparently they were mistagged. The price was mistagged. And the policy of the store is whatever price is on the thing, that's the price you pay. So if they said $78 and it's supposed to be $200 and I pay $78, whatever, that's Lowe's everywhere. Most everywhere.

[Freeze]

It's their policy.

[Parks]

It's not a law, but it's their policy.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Parks]

You know, it's a private business, they could say no, but that's their policy. Well, apparently Jim got some resistance from the person at the register who didn't want to give him that rate, and so he asked to speak to the manager.

[Freeze]

Manager came over.

[Parks]

Manager wasn't very helpful. He.

[Freeze]

No. And from now, mind you, this is

[Parks]

before it gets videotaped. That's why I'm saying it like this, because we didn't see this part. When he starts videotaping the people, you know, the woman turns her back. She don't want to be on tape. The other person's walking away. And Jim is basically saying, y' all not doing good customer service. You're not de escalating situation. You're talking to me like shit. You're doing this cause I'm black.

[Freeze]

Then they called the police on him, and then the police come, and he's managing it well.

[Parks]

You know, he had his customer service voice on. He was talking to the police. You know what I mean, explaining them what happened. Ultimately, they gave him the shit at the price. He was correct.

[Joe Button]

Good.

[Parks]

But he was like, y' all gonna go viral. And he was videotaping or showing the video of everything that was happening. It was a lot. I have thoughts on it, but I wanna know what y' all think. What?

[Party]

Oh, you playing something?

[Jim Jones]

Decided to take upon himself to tell me what I've done wrong. So tell the people that. You mad that that I found these locks for $78 because y' all put the wrong price. Y' all put the wrong price. You don't look at me now. You just had a lot to say. You don't have nothing to say. You're mad that I found.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's up, dog?

[Jim Jones]

How you feeling? They had the price under it.

[Freeze]

Like, you gave me that on the side. I kept going.

[Jim Jones]

When you make a mistake and keep the items under the price, they have to honor it. You came over here while I was having a conversation with a nice black young lady and proceeded to say, oh, if we place our items anywhere, then that's the price, right? That's how you treat a customer at Lowe's. Are you the manager? You said you're the manager, right? So instead of de escalating the situation, you added fuel to the fire. You didn't come over here with customer service. You came over here with bad service. Huh?

[Freeze]

Why?

[Jim Jones]

Because I'm a black man trying to do good things or what? Was it because I was talking to a black lady? Huh? You have nothing to say? I mean, lows.

[Freeze]

This is going way too low.

[Joe Button]

He continues.

[Corey]

This falls into my favorite category of celebrities complaining about companies on the Internet. It's like my favorite sub genre of the Internet that no one ever really talks about.

[Parks]

I be him sometime.

[Flip]

Do you?

[Corey]

You'll go on Twitter and be like,

[Parks]

yo, at I act like, particularly if I get Bad customer service from, like, an airline.

[Freeze]

It's usually airlines.

[Corey]

It's always airlines.

[Freeze]

Airlines.

[Parks]

And hit tracks.

[Erickson]

Yeah, yeah, that's a problem, right? In my opinion, I think we should do that. But when it's a conglomerate, you're doing it for nothing.

[Freeze]

They fixed my problem.

[Party]

He got his problem fixed.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, they fixed it.

[Party]

He got the locks for the second.

[Freeze]

If you have a. Like, back in the day on Twitter, if you got a blue check when blue checks mattered, they would very quickly

[Parks]

fix your problem because they didn't want.

[Party]

They didn't want the retweets.

[Parks]

They didn't want the retweets and all that.

[Erickson]

So what they do, send you some fly miles?

[Parks]

They booked me, they moved my seat. They gave me this, the flight that I needed.

[Freeze]

It was their fault. Like, I don't do it. I don't do it to be, like, a petulant.

[Corey]

Likes a lot of people, I feel like.

[Joe Button]

Do.

[Freeze]

I think that's true.

[Corey]

Okay.

[Freeze]

I think that's true. But, like, if you.

[Corey]

I'm not saying Jim was the whites. Oh,

[Erickson]

yo. One of my people's, a lady at her job used to do this every time she got bad customer service and they were sending gift cards. Gift cards.

[Joe Button]

Gift cards.

[Erickson]

Around Christmas time, she had a stack my of gift cards just based off

[Corey]

she got that much bad service, bad

[Erickson]

reviews throughout the year, or she just

[Party]

saying it was bad. It ain't got to be.

[Joe Button]

Be back. You got two times to do this as a celebrity, I feel like. And then you turn into Monique. So pick him wisely.

[Corey]

But she. It should be something good for.

[Joe Button]

Remember when was that Lizzo or somebody that the Uber Eats was delivering the wrong food, and then they was just constantly on Twitter, like, hey, Uber Eats. It's like, yo, no, you want to

[Corey]

use your one card for 37.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I feel like I don't want to see Jim pull his phone out.

[Flip]

He's right.

[Corey]

He is right.

[Freeze]

Jim is 100% right.

[Flip]

He's right.

[Erickson]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So.

[Flip]

But.

[Party]

And if I don't pull my phone out, this shit could go another way. And that was my word versus y'.

[Erickson]

All.

[Party]

Nah, I'm pulling my phone out.

[Freeze]

And that's what he said at one point.

[Joe Button]

Leave. For your safety.

[Freeze]

He said that at one point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Leave.

[Flip]

Get out of there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So they're supposed to honor the price that they put no matter if they

[Joe Button]

get out of there. We blessed enough to be able to

[Flip]

afford whatever locks we want.

[Joe Button]

And that is more priceless than the footage, living in perpetuity online, of you just Barking on the low skin.

[Corey]

Now I will say if there's someone to do it. Jim Jones is always gonna be entertaining.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Corey]

So please, this Jim Jones today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

In a tank. Entertaining us. Cause OG Petrifying to them fair.

[Freeze]

See, I think he could.

[Flip]

Cause when the cops came and they

[Joe Button]

showed in the footage. When. And the cops come. The cops come. And the cops are cool. Shout out to cops. I'm sure those are Jersey cops. And I'm not sure of that. Look, I just lied.

[Freeze]

It was Jersey.

[Joe Button]

It was Jersey, right?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Cause Jim is a Jersey head on the low.

[Flip]

They handled the situation like, all right,

[Joe Button]

Jim is not breaking any laws. He ain't broke no laws. So let's really get to the bottom of this. And they allowed Jim to continue to

[Flip]

be loud and follow homeboy with the camera.

[Freeze]

That's what it got sketchy to me.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's what I got.

[Freeze]

A little sketchy. I thought they was gonna pull him in because he was David that told him lower his voice. He's like, yelling ain't illegal, is it?

[Parks]

They like, nope.

[Freeze]

He was like, all right. Then kept on going. I was like, salute to Jim.

[Flip]

Back to my point. Jim Jones should do this. It's funny when Jim does.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God, I hope Jim got the locks.

[Parks]

He definitely got the locks.

[Joe Button]

Go, go, Jim.

[Corey]

At the price that he wanted to at Lowe's.

[Joe Button]

You didn't get him in versus does

[Freeze]

that you issue in terms of argu.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch your mouth. I mean, watch your mouth about our.

[Flip]

It was right there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He know he didn't get him Embur. That's my man.

[Parks]

No, no.

[Erickson]

I know all the managers.

[Parks]

Oh, right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And Lowe's.

[Parks]

I was asking if he ever had to fight over those things.

[Joe Button]

No, he was the Lowe's man.

[Freeze]

Pay for a lock a year for me birthday. Let me get these Lockes.

[Flip]

You know, it's lie on this big broadcast.

[Joe Button]

Say you never for cheaper supplies.

[Corey]

Yeah.

[Party]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

Oh, let me ask this.

[Freeze]

Did you ever and get cheaper supplies?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You went to that hardware store with

[Corey]

the D. Did you ever imply that maybe one day you might for cheaper supplies?

[Parks]

No.

[Corey]

Okay. A professional.

[Freeze]

You're cheap. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This wages. Right? Right.

[Flip]

Fox, you seen Ray J?

[Joe Button]

You seen Ray J try to beat you?

[Erickson]

And what.

[Joe Button]

I ain't like that shit. Ray J tried to outdo my man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And what?

[Joe Button]

He can't beat you?

[Flip]

I don't care what he lie.

[Joe Button]

He say out there.

[Party]

Let me see what the number was.

[Joe Button]

11,500. Was what?

[Corey]

That's his Number.

[Party]

It's his number. So he said he tried to beat.

[Flip]

I said, I don't think he got my man beat. I don't think. Well, he might. Cause he's been famous for a long time. But other than that, my ain't far behind. Ain't far behind.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He right on a creep up at least 8,500.

[Joe Button]

Ray J can't fuck with you in my booty.

[Parks]

Y' all in the neighborhood?

[Flip]

Yes. Same township, same county.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they in the neighborhood.

[Erickson]

Yo, what's wrong with you?

[Flip]

What'd you say to that?

[Joe Button]

You're not even gonna dignify that shit right.

[Erickson]

Shout out to Rage.

[Joe Button]

You the man.

[Flip]

There's a whole interview that came out.

[Corey]

There is. I haven't got to watch it yet.

[Joe Button]

Me neither.

[Flip]

So let's play a clip.

[Unknown Guest]

Never fight against the future. Future's coming artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done, but they not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you have four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? Like what. How do you interact with them? There's this hip hop dad, but if you trying to make young music and you're not, you know, you're not young, it's gonna be inauthentic. And people could feel that. You can smell it. People all the time.

[Freeze]

Never.

[Unknown Guest]

The best thing anyone can do, like going through music is to tell their story and just keep creating from that space. I love what the clips are doing right now and how it's authentic to them. And I tell them the story about their mom and. And dad who just passed away and how deep that is with John Legend singing on the chorus. And like, you know, everything that they've been through is an authentic display. A piece of classic material that it could have came out 96 or come out 2026. It still feels the same because it's real and it's authentic to who they are. The bestic.

[Joe Button]

And that is via the New York Times. If you're unaware, the New York Times recently released the article of the 30 greatest living American songwriters.

[Corey]

I saw this here. Some interesting choices on there, I thought.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

I'm not going to say that this is in order. These are just the names. Jay Z, Young Thug, Kendrick Outkast, Missy, Mariah, the Dream, Bad Bunny, Babyface. Stevie Wonder. Now Rogers, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Smokey Robinson, Lionel Richie, Taylor Swift, Lana Del Rey, Dolly Parton, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Paul Simon, Carol King.

[Parks]

Oh, thank God.

[Party]

What?

[Parks]

I was. If they don't say Carol King, the whole list is fake.

[Joe Button]

Carole King, Willie Nelson, Diane Warren, Fiona Apple, Lucinda Williams, Romeo Santos, Valerie Simpson, Brian and Eddie Holland, Stephen Merritt. Hopefully I'm pronouncing that right. This is spelled S, T, E, P, H, I, N. And Josh Osborne, Brandi Clark, and Shane McNally.

[Corey]

Is this. This has to be just songwriters.

[Joe Button]

Hold on.

[Corey]

Us songwriters, but has to be songwriters that are also artists.

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Corey]

Yeah, I would have to imagine because there's so many songwriters that are not.

[Erickson]

Oh, that makes.

[Corey]

Listed here that have smashed.

[Erickson]

Brian Michael Cox should be there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

Jermaine Dupri could be there.

[Party]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Corey]

There's a. There's a bunch of people that could be here that are not here. But I'm not mad at the list for the most part.

[Erickson]

I don't just know that I have Babyface name.

[Corey]

He's on there.

[Freeze]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Diane Warren was on it.

[Corey]

No. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I feel like there's some people missing.

[Joe Button]

I don't see how you do this list without B. Cox. Yeah, yeah, but I won't say that because he might be 31.

[Corey]

Fair. I guess.

[Erickson]

But then I don't know if those 30.

[Joe Button]

There's nobody on this list you can describe credit.

[Freeze]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

And there's a few names I'm unfamiliar with, but most of them I'm familiar with. It's nothing you can say about it,

[Erickson]

but not even to. To discredit anybody. But if we go ahead, say I don't want on nobody. If you're gonna put some people on.

[Joe Button]

Come on. Say I feel like Young Thug paid to be on it.

[Erickson]

No, but Brian Michael Cox is higher than some of those people.

[Joe Button]

He's definitely hiding.

[Erickson]

That's all I'm saying. Jermaine Dupree, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

Like, because. No, no disrespect to Mariah. If you put Mariah there, then you got to put JD And B. Cox there because a lot of her classic shit came through that camp.

[Parks]

Yeah,

[Joe Button]

I don't have anything to say. I was just reading it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no.

[Corey]

Yeah, for sure.

[Erickson]

I like the list, though.

[Corey]

It was not bad at it.

[Party]

They have a section on it. I was trying to get it. I don't. I don't subscribe to the Times because it says how we chose the criteria. Yeah, but it's not coming up for me. I would have read there.

[Corey]

Yeah. I just feel like there's behind the scenes people, the Jack Antonoffs of the world and the Sean Garrett's of the world. And there's a bunch of people that probably should be on this list, I would say.

[Flip]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

30 is a big number. A small number, though.

[Corey]

It is. It is.

[Parks]

It's tough because when you got, like, the. The Smokies and the Stevies and the Carole Kings, for sure.

[Freeze]

There's like.

[Parks]

Baby. I mean, there's some people who are just so cemented.

[Erickson]

Undeniable.

[Party]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah. So you. You might be fighting for. It might be 50 people fighting for really, like, 15 spots.

[Freeze]

Did y' all keep. Did you really say Young Thug?

[Joe Button]

He's on the list.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's on the list.

[Freeze]

Okay.

[Corey]

Was Max Martin on the list?

[Joe Button]

Best piece not on the list. That.

[Corey]

I just read that. It's an egregiously bad list.

[Freeze]

I don't understand that one.

[Party]

Me neither.

[Freeze]

I. I thought y' all were joking when you said that.

[Parks]

And no disrespect to Young Thug. I think he's a great artist, but one of the 30 greatest songwriters ever.

[Party]

With that list.

[Parks]

With that list.

[Party]

Sorry.

[Parks]

Yeah. It's a test.

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Respectfully, I'm not putting him in Dolly

[Parks]

Parton, and that's what I'm saying.

[Corey]

On the same. On the same list. I love Young Thug.

[Parks]

I love Young Thug, too.

[Joe Button]

Just the two sports fans I want to talk to before we. Before we end the broadcast. The draft is over. I'm happy with what the Giants did. The Dolphins seem to have done pretty well themselves.

[Corey]

They did a lot of groundwork, I would say.

[Party]

Gotcha.

[Corey]

Which I like.

[Erickson]

Like my man's little cousin.

[Party]

Who?

[Erickson]

The cornerback. Dude from.

[Corey]

From San Diego. Chris Johnson.

[Erickson]

Penn State, I think. I think he went to Penn State.

[Corey]

Any case. Yeah. It's a lot of groundwork.

[Joe Button]

So. Come on.

[Flip]

Come on.

[Erickson]

One.

[Party]

I don't. I don't particularly follow the draft.

[Joe Button]

Okay. So. All right. I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Party]

But I know Aaron Rodgers is still the quarter.

[Flip]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Button]

I have. I have business very specific to the Steelers and Cowboys.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Flip]

@smiththompson.com.

[Joe Button]

shut up.

[Corey]

Pay for you.

[Joe Button]

Where's the at? No, I'm not.

[Corey]

I'm not on YouTube.

[Joe Button]

All right, here we go.

[Sports Analyst]

Pittsburgh is pissed about this. They feel like Dallas duped them. They. Especially with the draft being in Pittsburgh, they felt embarrassed on a national stage. So there was a wild development that happened.

[Joe Button]

This is great.

[Sports Analyst]

The war room. Not only in Dallas, first of all,

[Flip]

before this continues, I know that this

[Joe Button]

is true because this is the same thing that the Cowboys did to the Giants in 2022. And that was the Makai. The Michael Parsons draft was 2022.

[Flip]

The Michael Parsons draft is when they

[Joe Button]

fucked us with this same move. But this is cute.

[Sports Analyst]

Last night, but also in Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia. So the Cowboys are sitting there on the clock at pick 20. They were planning on taking Malachi Lawrence right there, but they did. Entering that pick, they wanted to trade back. They had been tipped off somehow that Makai Lemon was going to be the pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The USC wide receiver. There's a lot of connections with that new Pittsburgh staff. Remember, Mike McCarthy is the new head coach there. He hired a lot of, you know, assistant coaches and executives and scouts and, you know, people behind the scenes that were in Dallas just a couple of years ago. So it could have been as simple as someone in the Dallas war room just shooting a text to somebody in the Pittsburgh war room. Be like, hey, who are y' all taking here? And then thinking, oh, the Cowboys are taking defense. You know, this is just two guys, you know, two girls talking, right? Here they go, we're taking Makai Lemon, you know, and the Cowboys call Philadelphia. Cowboys call Philadelphia. They're like, hey, the Steelers are going to take Makai Lemon. We know you want a receiver, come up here, do this deal with us and give us two fourth round picks. And they did the deal, and Pittsburgh is pissed. Multiple sources that told me this morning.

[Flip]

Damn, I love that.

[Corey]

Yeah, I love the Cowboys being petty.

[Joe Button]

And yes, we don't need to hear the rest of that.

[Flip]

But we know this is. And we. And we know that this is true because we have footage of Mai Lemon on the phone. On the phone with the Steelers. When the Eagles. When the Eagles call.

[Joe Button]

Let me say, I think I have those clips, too.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Joe Button]

How you feeling about any of this?

[Party]

Good for you. That's good for you, running him out.

[Flip]

You should have.

[Party]

Should have kept it to yourself.

[Corey]

This is the one where he looked real tight and did put the hat on.

[Joe Button]

Now this is when he's on the phone with the Steelers on the phone

[Flip]

and he finds out, Phillies right here.

[Party]

They're calling you now.

[Flip]

I like Dallas for you.

[Parks]

I like.

[Flip]

Hey, baby, I like Dallas's petty Draft room shit. Yo, but boy, if I'm the Steelers,

[Joe Button]

I'm mad at him.

[Party]

You can't. Who can you be mad at? You rang your mouth. You can't be mad at nobody else, bro.

[Erickson]

You rang your Mouth might have took a couple of my assistants, some trainers or some shit.

[Party]

It's my get back left on some bad blood.

[Joe Button]

I didn't like it when the Cowboys did it to us, but I do like that petty shit. I do. All right, go Cowboys.

[Party]

Just fly movie.

[Flip]

And I think Makai Levin is a dog.

[Corey]

Cowboys had a good draft to. I don't know what the. I don't remember who the Steelers drafted.

[Joe Button]

Me neither. Me neither.

[Flip]

I don't have any.

[Joe Button]

I don't have any other draft draft thoughts for y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Erickson]

And we just picked up Scantler.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, real quick, before we go, this literally take 20 seconds. I'm just being a bird today. I need Drake predictions.

[Freeze]

That's it.

[Parks]

You know, some people have said, academics said that, you know, he thinks he's going to beat GNX by like 4 to 600,000. So I don't know if the number's gonna be that big, but I do think Drake's gonna have a big, big, big first week. So I know it's not time to talk album.

[Freeze]

We'll talk time. Talk time will come when it comes.

[Parks]

But can we throw some numbers out so we on the record here?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

450.

[Freeze]

I say 500.

[Erickson]

I'm at 5.

[Party]

550.

[Ian]

5.

[Parks]

50. I'm sorry. Yes.

[Party]

375 to 425.

[Corey]

I'm gonna go. Price is right. 350.

[Parks]

Joseph.

[Joe Button]

Same.

[Parks]

350.

[Joe Button]

Well, price is right.

[Parks]

Gotcha.

[Corey]

Only because he doesn't have help from the label no more. He's beef with the label. And to get the astronomical numbers, typically you need the label to help us push. Push it a little further.

[Erickson]

So let me ask you, when you say push, what does that mean, though? Promotion on your first week, Pay for.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Corey]

Not necessarily just buy it, but they pay for.

[Joe Button]

And promote. Yeah. You pay for certain opportunities. Opportunities. Yeah. Pay to keep this release in front of. Getting in front of the people.

[Flip]

It needs to be on the biggest playlist.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, depending. Well, for artists of this magnitude. Yeah, I would think now it's happening post release.

[Erickson]

Organic. Yeah, I think it would be organic. And then you would pay like the third, fourth, fifth week to keep it going.

[Corey]

Not for someone like Drake, a major. The biggest artist on your label, you're gonna put. Put all the chips in to make it. Make it do it.

[Freeze]

They play at different places.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They talk about Iceman, different places. They show it on different.

[Flip]

The biggest release, the biggest hip hop release this year.

[Joe Button]

This year has been what?

[Flip]

Cole.

[Corey]

Cole.

[Flip]

Yeah. What was Cole.

[Corey]

I feel like he did three something

[Erickson]

the way it changed.

[Parks]

Yeah, a little less than Bruno Mars.

[Joe Button]

Shut up.

[Party]

Just won't let it go.

[Flip]

Cole did three something.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Erickson]

Remember we came in and kind of was like, nah, it did beat everybody's predictions.

[Joe Button]

Oh, for the record, I don't believe none of them Kanye numbers. None of them. Sorry.

[Erickson]

Kanye numbers, huh?

[Corey]

2, 8.

[Parks]

280.

[Corey]

Fall off, dude. 280.

[Parks]

280 pure or like this total combined. Everything that seemed low album equivalent. Okay.

[Party]

Has to be combined.

[Parks]

If he did 280 though, I can't see Drake doing less than four or five. I just don't see it. I think 550 is a. A good number.

[Erickson]

I think he does 400 just off controversy, cuz. Want to see what he said about Kendrick?

[Freeze]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

I think at the bare minimum, people want to hear him say some about Kendrick so they can run with it.

[Party]

You don't think Cole had that?

[Parks]

Not in the same way.

[Erickson]

Not in the same way.

[Party]

Not even close.

[Erickson]

Not even remote.

[Party]

Off the. Off the apology, the delete all of that. Now let's hear what you got. Double disc. Your. Your final album that you've been teasing.

[Corey]

Well, allegedly not to the level Drake, but I'm not.

[Party]

I'm just saying he's had that some

[Joe Button]

level of that level near Drake.

[Erickson]

Any city.

[Joe Button]

The guy who apologized and we actually believed, really didn't want no parts of this. There was no reasonable expectation that on his album he would get back into this whole. What is he going to say? Kendrick, Drake. I don't. I don't see it.

[Flip]

Listen, I know that the Drake thing,

[Joe Button]

I'm happy that things are being eventized or again. But Drake and the Chris Brown project and the Kalani project.

[Flip]

Kehlani has been on repeat.

[Corey]

Not for nothing, Ariana Grande just announced a new album too.

[Parks]

Oh, nice, nice.

[Erickson]

Heavy. It is coming out.

[Corey]

Yeah, yeah, it's about that time. It's coming out. What does that say? July 31st.

[Parks]

Perfect.

[Party]

Look at that Chris Brown album she's still with.

[Joe Button]

Is she still with the bald girl that.

[Corey]

I don't know.

[Flip]

I don't really with Ariana Grande music.

[Joe Button]

Ever since she started looking sickly.

[Corey]

She said she's addressing some things on this album that she's been through in the last.

[Party]

Okay.

[Flip]

They all say cuz she was already

[Joe Button]

small, but then she started. Yeah, right.

[Party]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She might be going through something Breezy albums Next week. Friday.

[Party]

Next Friday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What is it called?

[Party]

Brown.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Any single?

[Party]

Yeah, he just dropped a single. I just dropped it. And he got the the record with Tiller

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Breezy Brown Brown

[Flip]

Brown all hearts and minds all hearts and minds Clear and free all hearts and minds Anything else we need? Anything else we need to hit?

[Corey]

Nah, nah, I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

Flip, you suit me up. Like, this was about to be a classic. Yo, yo, you did.

[Erickson]

Yo, and you fell asleep over there. Like you just sitting over there. Like you just, just.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he dropped the ball today.

[Flip]

That.

[Erickson]

Yo, we about to do another classic.

[Flip]

You had me thinking that we was about to drop even when we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I drink somebody. I think I drink somebody water here that was here. And if you watch it.

[Corey]

How would you do that?

[Freeze]

How you do that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By M. Somebody. I thought it was mine. Then I found my water right here. I'm like, that wasn't my water. You think that.

[Joe Button]

You think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that backwash got me. I got sick. If you watch the Patreon, you can see me slowly going like this. I got sick.

[Joe Button]

You think that's fear?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I lost my voice.

[Corey]

Wait, you think. You think you got sick, like, immediately.

[Erickson]

Hell, you got sick last episode.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hell, yeah.

[Erickson]

Today.

[Flip]

Wait, what?

[Freeze]

You came in here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm still sick, you dicks. I'm still sick.

[Freeze]

But you came in hyped up. You hyped us. You came in hyping stupid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I am currently sick. Can you hear my voice? Sure.

[Erickson]

So when you came in here this

[Flip]

morning, you want to go ask your.

[Freeze]

You came in hype.

[Erickson]

You came in here this morning.

[Freeze]

I was hyped.

[Flip]

Yo, we about to do another classic. Last one was a classic.

[Freeze]

You went that minute. That's all you had. That's all I had.

[Joe Button]

But do you think that. You think that's fair to the fans that you drink the wrong water and they can't get a classic?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nigga, you think it's fair to not send me home once you hear my voice is sick.

[Joe Button]

Send you home? Send you home, nigga.

[Flip]

Monica is out of town.

[Freeze]

Somebody gotta sit there.

[Joe Button]

I'm not teaming up with you. I'm not teaming up with you.

[Freeze]

You already in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry you couldn't when you could have sat here.

[Freeze]

It's too much. Too much talent.

[Erickson]

Sound much different.

[Freeze]

The camera don't move. The camera don't pan. It's too much.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what, though? When I come here back, when I come in front, I'm getting my seat back. If she come back Tuesday, I'm getting my seat back.

[Freeze]

Okay, I'm gonna teach you something, but

[Joe Button]

can we drop a classic then?

[Parks]

Cause I thought I get this over there.

[Joe Button]

I'm Sad, man.

[Flip]

Last one was classic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Every time you. I think it was your water.

[Freeze]

N. It wasn't mine.

[Joe Button]

Healthy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That herpes.

[Flip]

Oh, drink the herp water.

[Freeze]

There was two waters here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I drank one. I look, I said, oh, it's not my water.

[Freeze]

Watch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch it last.

[Corey]

She has the Val tracks on it.

[Flip]

I whole voice.

[Freeze]

My wife.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you doing? She thought I'm out here eating box

[Joe Button]

in order to get attention.

[Freeze]

We. We switch bottles.

[Joe Button]

I never thought you'd do something like that to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was yours.

[Joe Button]

I'd like to apologize. No longer keeping up with your lies

[Freeze]

or supporting your habits to tell half truths. I hope this message.

[Joe Button]

What happened? I know. I know I was busy producing, but forget that.

[Parks]

I apologize. No, no.

[Freeze]

He said. He said we switched waters. I said we probably did because my taste about water, I said, this. This tastes like. This tastes like milk for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Freeze]

He just told me to repeat it. I said it off camera. He told me to say it.

[Parks]

Don't.

[Freeze]

Don't look at me like. That's.

[Flip]

That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's. That's inappropriate.

[Freeze]

You told me to say it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm in my house currently.

[Freeze]

I'm not in a. I'm in my house currently. It's not a flex. I'm not in the apartment because you're staying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not staying home. You're in an apartment.

[Freeze]

You're not staying home.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're in an apartment somewhere in Newark.

[Joe Button]

Talk about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not home.

[Freeze]

Talking about I home, boy.

[Joe Button]

Talking about I bought a content house.

[Freeze]

Yeah, yeah, content house.

[Flip]

We know the content of that house is all your.

[Party]

All my.

[Flip]

Here's how your content's doing, dc.

[Freeze]

Yo, you are dirty.

[Party]

I don't even remote.

[Freeze]

Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Zeus hit me up to host them at my content house in Maryland. Boy, you talking about. Boy,

[Flip]

your cook has put his cocktails in Maryland.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fire, though. Yo, you got the game on locked. You like that story? I can't wait.

[Freeze]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I listen to your whole story there. You got the industry on lock when it comes to just being your life,

[Flip]

being who you are.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like a landlord that don't get favors, you know, that don't take pussy for. For the missing rent for like, an honorable landlord that go there, change the ACs, give them central air, fix the little old heaters that you got. Cause I know some of them still got the old heaters that you turn

[Joe Button]

the knob and not back out the hammer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And not back out the hammer.

[Freeze]

You are legendary.

[Corey]

The honorable landlord Flip.

[Party]

You would do the Same thing if you was a landlord.

[Erickson]

I don't know.

[Freeze]

I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, there's some stories with women when they don't have the rent. People when they don't have the rent, they come to the door a little friendlier, a little more revealing. It's stories like that. You hear about it.

[Erickson]

So when they want to be in your 48 hour house, what'd they come with?

[Ian]

My house?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You talking about your. In Maryland?

[Erickson]

No, no, no. Your 48 hour that you do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't have that.

[Flip]

I don't have that anymore.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't do that anymore.

[Erickson]

Because somebody had cots and then somebody had a bed. So tell me, what was the perks?

[Freeze]

How you get to the bed?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Corey]

Being really good at content.

[Party]

Probably got you.

[Joe Button]

Got you really good.

[Corey]

Really good account to babe.

[Joe Button]

You'll be pleased to know I told these that you can't be saying happy birthday to Craig and they was on your side.

[Freeze]

Yes, I can. Oh, we told him that.

[Joe Button]

I mean, you can.

[Freeze]

You told me.

[Parks]

Sounded crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop. Don't play with her when she start looking like that.

[Freeze]

Don't play with her, boy.

[Joe Button]

I mean, you can for sure.

[Freeze]

Do you think that's wise? Do you think it's his wife?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sh.

[Freeze]

Hey, Mother's Mother's Day around the corner.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Party]

What did she.

[Flip]

It's Mother's Day coming up. All right, girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, sh.

[Joe Button]

You know, all the holidays, I'm with women's rights. They just be picking the wrong time stand on is Mother's Day. What y' all doing for Mother's Day?

[Flip]

Get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm over something. Celebrating with our family going down South. You bring your family down south, bring your wife down south.

[Parks]

You say he going down South.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying you bring your girl. Your mom is down there, right?

[Freeze]

You bring her with you.

[Parks]

I'll see you when I get back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's up to your mom.

[Parks]

She said, I'm going down.

[Party]

Yo, what's wrong with this?

[Joe Button]

That's funny.

[Freeze]

That's funny.

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear it.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Erickson]

He said, yo, you going down South. Dolo like saying that you can tell

[Mark Lamont Hill]

when somebody get out of his crib.

[Erickson]

Look, going to see somebody else. Some other mothers down south. Leaving my girl, my baby mother home.

[Joe Button]

That's fine. You're going to see your mom and you bring in your lady. All right, that's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you see your girl mom frequently, like she's in the town. Yeah, okay. Frequent you do on Mother's Day.

[Joe Button]

Frequent, yeah. You talking about inherited in that thing?

[Erickson]

What you said I got the money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He trying to let the mom put him in the.

[Flip]

This ain't seen his mom in a decade. He trying to be.

[Freeze]

What the.

[Flip]

He coming here.

[Freeze]

Yo, yo, yo.

[Erickson]

I got the money. I don't gotta get inherited.

[Joe Button]

Did they stop pregnant?

[Erickson]

No. So.

[Joe Button]

So it's possible that one family got more mine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ooh.

[Party]

You heard.

[Freeze]

Back him down.

[Party]

You heard him knock them down.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Be mindful.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Family's not sitting there.

[Freeze]

Your family. Listen, don't tell.

[Joe Button]

When girls don't listen.

[Flip]

In the last hour.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I'mma clip this up.

[Flip]

We in the last hour, listen to

[Erickson]

the entire pot, bro.

[Joe Button]

All right, then.

[Flip]

You got it then.

[Party]

That's cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze. You doing Mama Love freezing your girl?

[Party]

I don't know yet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know you do it big.

[Flip]

Oh, wait. Yeah. What you doing for your girl? Duh.

[Joe Button]

Stupid me. We talking about moms.

[Erickson]

Whatever come to mind. It ain't nothing planned because he put

[Mark Lamont Hill]

flowers in the house every week. So it's.

[Erickson]

You just get what they get.

[Party]

Like whatever.

[Flip]

Fresh flowers every week.

[Erickson]

I don't have nothing planned.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna try that.

[Flip]

You need.

[Joe Button]

I know what you need. I know what you need.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What store you get the flowers from.

[Joe Button]

Boy, you gonna be there. I know exactly what this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm accepting.

[Freeze]

What you doing for Mommy?

[Flip]

Well, you think that.

[Joe Button]

Wait mute up for a minute. You think that's safe to do with my girlfriend right there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She ain't looking.

[Freeze]

Oh, she can. Don't worry.

[Flip]

I'm gonna pull up the road that. Don't worry.

[Party]

I'mma find out.

[Flip]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

All right. Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mother's Day, bro.

[Freeze]

I don't know yet.

[Joe Button]

Waving in front of his mom's face.

[Corey]

It's been a good show, man.

[Freeze]

My family.

[Flip]

It's Mark. Mark here.

[Freeze]

This is. He's making fun of my blind mother.

[Erickson]

Yeah, nuts.

[Freeze]

He's making fun of my blind. But I have never seen such grass.

[Flip]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

I Watching people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was disgusting.

[Freeze]

That was disgusting.

[Joe Button]

That was obnoxious. And talk about you in unfavorable ways.

[Freeze]

He said a lot of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you have that. Like that. That stops that.

[Flip]

I don't.

[Parks]

It's real, though.

[Freeze]

It's real. Definitely.

[Parks]

She definitely think she's in better restaurants than she's in.

[Freeze]

This tastes like this ambiance.

[Flip]

It's Applebee's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is this a Chinese store?

[Freeze]

No.

[Erickson]

Do you hear this?

[Party]

I don't. I don't hear them.

[Flip]

I don't hear them.

[Freeze]

Applebee's. Get it done now.

[Party]

I don't hear Them.

[Flip]

Babe, babe, Can I tell some of your family business as a joke on the pond? Cause my girl, I don't fucking.

[Joe Button]

No. Cause she got a family member that's in the home, too. Like, having trouble remembering some shit. Like, older, but.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop.

[Flip]

But don't laugh.

[Joe Button]

But whoever she in the room with, like, the roommate is feeding the whole type.

[Flip]

Yo.

[Freeze]

Yo, what's wrong with you, my nigga?

[Flip]

The roommate being there, splitting masks in the head. Did she call?

[Freeze]

I'll be right there.

[Flip]

She on the phone. Don't listen to the roommate. I ain't going to lie. I would probably do the same. That's you, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What is wrong with you?

[Freeze]

Yo, she was writing, like, our family

[Parks]

members that she was randomly finding on

[Party]

Facebook and trying to like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's funny. If she was here, I would laugh more. We gotta go. We gotta go. No, that is funny. Yo.

[Party]

All right, I think he's gonna run it back.

[Freeze]

Supporting your habits to tell half truths.

[Flip]

Come on, let him get his bag, man. We leaving.

[Joe Button]

Hope you get the help you need.

[Freeze]

Look, you talk about Kellen, about Jayla and Darren.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I forgot how he was giving it up now. He was spilling too much. I'll find a difference on the end with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Seem like you're in a great mood, bro.

[Joe Button]

Here you go. I see you.

[Flip]

I see from a mile away.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what would you know?

[Flip]

I'm in a great mood.

[Party]

You gotta put.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yo, if y' all looking for a On Broadway, an amazing movie. Ojo's eyes. I'm happy every time. Every time. Shade come in the building, you get in a more better mood.

[Flip]

And I love that.

[Parks]

Beautiful.

[Joe Button]

She's my world. She's my entire world.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She talking to Corey, acting like she's not listening, but she responded.

[Freeze]

She's sick. That's sick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's that Caribbean, yo.

[Flip]

All right, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.

[Freeze]

I feel better. Tuesday, y'. All. I promise, yo.

[Flip]

Hey, Spam Flip mentions. Yo. He did promise. He promised the classic.

[Freeze]

He did.

[Flip]

I. I thought a classic was coming, too, but when his energy shifted, I just. It didn't. Yeah, now, that was crazy.

[Freeze]

Yo, Mar.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mar gave me herpes water. So I

[Flip]

listen. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do farewell. Adio. Cereva di asta la vista Arvois. So long, goodbye. A simple head novel. Simple suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Uhoh. Y' all hold it down out there. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you may need it. What y' all on this week? What y' all on this week? Anything.

[Corey]

No sleeping, bunch of no brunch. No parties.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Word.

[Freeze]

Take a glass of no Hennessy.

[Flip]

No Hennessy. No.

[Corey]

No Hennessy.

[Party]

Chilling all week.

[Freeze]

Took a line as one.

[Corey]

I did not.

[Flip]

Damn.

[Freeze]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

What you think, Parks? We do that before work

[Mark Lamont Hill]

sometime.

[Joe Button]

Before work?

[Corey]

I mean, for a talking job, I guess it would be kind of good.

[Flip]

But like, I think the worst choice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shut the fuck up.

[Flip]

Perhaps.

[Parks]

Perhaps.

[Corey]

Say perhaps.

[Flip]

Yo, shout out to everybody that's going through a breakup out there. Our hearts are with you. Yeah, I mean, go ahead and get the Slow Jam playlist out. Whatever you do, just avoid the memories portion and the photo photo folder in your phone. That gonna show you all the good

[Joe Button]

times y' all had together.

[Flip]

That's gonna show you y' all a great adventure. It's gonna show you y' all with the two straws in the same drink. All of that corny head ass.

[Joe Button]

Man, y' all be careful.

[Flip]

Let's go, Ralph.

[Joe Button]

Light up with all these light skin anthems. Come on, let's go. You know this hard these.

[Freeze]

Hey,

[Flip]

Yo, we'll be back. Same time, same place

[Mark Lamont Hill]

again.

[Flip]

Meg, hold your head. Clay, hold your head. Yeah, Clay, too. Clay, too. Man, I'm sure this hurts. I'm sure it hurts. Until next time, man. Remember, anytime you need a podcast with some professional relationship advice, look no further. Take it from the experts, man. Look no further than here. We love y'.

[Corey]

All.

[Flip]

Love yourself. Remember, we're unique, but so are you.

[Freeze]

It's the network.