Episode 925 | "At Risk Youth Diet"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 925 | "At Risk Youth Diet"

Date: May 2, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Co-hosts: Mark Lamont Hill, Mona (Don't Call Me White Girl), Parks, Cheyenne Bryant

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Overview

This episode captures the classic Joe Budden Podcast vibe: a chaotic, energy-filled blend of jokes, personal stories, hip-hop culture, and spontaneous debates. The cast—Joe, Mark Lamont Hill, Mona, Parks, and Cheyenne Bryant—navigate topics ranging from petty office snack thefts and “at risk youth diets,” to the meaning of authenticity in hip-hop, viral moments in sports, controversial news, and more. As usual, the crew balances hilarious anecdotes with impassioned commentary on music, trending news, and social justice.

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Table of Contents

1. Opening Banter: The Great Dr. Pepper Caper
2. At Risk Youth Diet & Mona's Return
3. Music Announcements and Podcast Dynamics
4. Spring Bonuses, Massage Parlor Antics, and Handys
5. NBA Playoff Recaps: Knicks, Sixers, and More
6. Versus Battles: Ross vs. French, Meek vs. Wale
7. New Music Discussion
8. Racial Profiling & Uber Stories
9. Tipping Culture and Race
10. True Crime: David Guilty Case Breakdown
11. Current Affairs: Voting Rights & Social Justice
12. Viral Drama: Lexie Brown v. Meg & Clay
13. Hip-Hop Discussion: Aging and Authenticity
14. Listener Mailbag: Making Classics Then vs Now
15. Closing Jokes & Weekend Plans

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1. Opening Banter: The Great Dr. Pepper Caper

[00:00–08:24]

• The episode opens with a playful whodunit over a missing 12-pack of Dr. Pepper, a running in-joke among the cast.
• Parks, Mark, Mona, Cheyenne, and Joe jokingly accuse each other, counting sodas and Slim Jims as evidence.
• Joe is roasted for his handwriting while listing podcast topics.
• Mona reveals that Ish (not present) probably drank the missing Dr. Peppers:

“I got calls all week…if you plan on having a Dr. Pep when you get back, chances are slim to none.” – Mona [03:31]

• Crossover into discussions of snacking habits, with Mona’s “at risk youth diet” (oatmeal pies, Slim Jims, Dr. Pepper) highlighted.
• Emotional reunion with Mona, recently absent from the podcast:

“Mona, I’m glad you back.” – Joe [08:29]

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2. At Risk Youth Diet & Mona's Return

[08:25–10:35]

• Mona’s unusual snack preferences become a running theme, called an "at risk youth house diet."
• Laughs about who’s eating what in the podcast studio; lighthearted ribbing continues about snacks disappearing.
• Welcoming Mona back officially, with a nod to her own podcast:

“Make some noise. Mona, from the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast.” – Joe [08:35]

• Debate about appropriate podcast introductions and representing the Joe Budden Podcast brand at outside events.

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3. Music Announcements and Podcast Dynamics

[10:36–12:55]

• The cast riffs on recent internet lists naming Joe among the “richest rappers,” poking fun at the inaccuracies:

“That list is not real, you guys. ... My worth should be popped right there.” – Joe [11:08, 11:41]

• Jokes about company spring bonuses and office culture:

“Treat you like you steal candles and toilet paper...I’m leaving here with something.” – Mona, quoting Denzel [12:44]

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4. Spring Bonuses, Massage Parlor Antics, and Handys

[13:00–18:37]

• Joe tells an elaborate, innuendo-ridden story about a “suspect” massage parlor experience.
• Debate over etiquette—asking directly vs using signals—for negotiating “extras” at massage spots:

“I think the best way to ask is to just, like, show them that you’re hard.” – Mona [13:37]

• Comedy on “taking a dick pill to go anywhere,” with jokes about the risks of big, strong masseuses.

“Take a little dick pill...I take a dick pill to go anywhere. I’ll take a dick pill to go to Starbucks.” – Joe [17:15, 17:23]

• Running gags about massage boundaries, full-body massages, and strip club stories.

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5. NBA Playoff Recaps: Knicks, Sixers, and More

[38:22–47:15]

• Intense recap of the Knicks blowing out the Hawks (“Thanksgiving kid in your bag...Dead birds all around” – Joe [39:35])
• Joe playfully taunts Mark (a Sixers fan) about prospects in a Celtics/Knicks/Sixers bracket.
• Deep dive into the matchup implications for Knicks, Celtics, and Sixers:

“Joel Embiid gonna injure 1 to 3 Knicks for sure. Tyrese Maxey is a matchup problem.” – Joe [46:07]

• Prideful and conflicted Sixers/Celtics debates ensue.

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6. Versus Battles: Ross vs. French, Meek vs. Wale

[49:44–57:34]

• The “Versus” topic brings up the recently announced Rick Ross vs French Montana match-up.
• The cast is mostly unimpressed:

“That’s stupid...It’s a weird matchup, bro.” – Mona [49:54, 50:06]

• They campaign for an Alternative: Meek Mill vs Wale, discussing behind-the-scenes reluctance to battle:

“People make up different reasons why they don’t want to do it and really just be scared.” – Mona [52:02]

• In-depth analysis on artist feature catalogs for Versus strategies.

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7. New Music Discussion

[61:46–71:12]

• Reactions to new singles and albums: Chris Brown & Leon Thomas (“Falling”), Kehlani’s “uncut” album, Currency & Harry Fraud, Isaiah Rashad, and The-Dream's new single.
• Praise for the production, maturity, and arrangement of specific tracks:

“I love the song. I just don’t know if I love it right now.” – Joe on Chris Brown’s new record [64:30]

• Rapid-fire mentions of upcoming releases: Givion Deluxe, Drake, Kaylani.

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8. Racial Profiling & Uber Stories

[74:41–80:46]

• Parks narrates a wild Uber ride with a Black driver and boisterous music, sparking a discussion on racial and class profiling in rideshare services:

“Y’all see Black faces like your own and say another driver?” – Mona [79:03]

• Lively analysis of Uber vs. Lyft standards and car quality, with comic anecdotes about vehicle selection.

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9. Tipping Culture and Race

[81:32–86:50]

• The crew debates the merits of tipping before vs after receiving service, sparked by an online “wealth” guru’s argument.
• Discussion includes how tipping biases affect Black customers and staff:

“A lot of times we get bad service because there’s an expectation that we’re not gonna tip.” – Mark [85:16]

• Mona and Mark recall industry stories about racism and coded language in restaurant work.
• Consensus: customer service should be the minimum, but the system is flawed.

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10. True Crime: David Guilty Case Breakdown

[86:54–92:22]

• The crew reacts with horror to the ever-worsening developments in the David case (chainsaws, pools, text messages, child exploitation).

“This story gets worse and worse. Every new detail that you hear.” – Joe [87:27]

• Reflections on mental health, legal maneuvering, and the pain for the victim’s family.

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11. Current Affairs: Voting Rights & Social Justice

[149:50–154:38]

• Mark reports on the Supreme Court’s dismantling of the Voting Rights Act:

“Now they’re like, no, Black people don’t just have to be fucked over. We have to have proof that the people wanted to fuck Black people. Which nobody says.” – Mark [152:20]

• Somber acknowledgements of what’s being lost and a discussion of the difficulty of the “long game” in U.S. racial justice.

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12. Viral Drama: Lexie Brown v. Meg & Clay

[138:32–147:20]

• Discussion of Lexie Brown demanding Meg Thee Stallion and Klay Thompson clear her name regarding cheating rumors.
• Who has a responsibility to speak? The crew debates whether Meg “weaponized” her fanbase by going public:

“If it don’t apply to Lexie Brown, then unfortunately, yeah, you just gotta stay low, too.” – Joe [146:33]

• Conversation extends to how mental health is only “performed” online, but rarely prioritized offline.

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13. Hip-Hop Discussion: Aging and Authenticity

[125:10–136:28]

• Jay Z’s NYT interview clip on aging in hip-hop prompts reflection on the value of authenticity, introspection, and evolving subject matter:

“If you’re trying to make young music and you’re not, you know, you’re not young, it’s gonna be inauthentic. And people could feel that.” – Jay Z (clip) [125:28]

• Joe, Parks, and Mark agree, with Parks noting the difference between artists and rappers who chase hits over growth.
• Critical mention of artists like Future who continue “young” music despite age, and the realities of commercial incentives versus art.

“I think there’s more people playing a rap business game than the rap artist game today.” – Parks [171:18]

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14. Listener Mailbag: Making Classics Then vs Now

[165:09–172:50]

• A listener asks if it’s harder to make a classic album nowadays. Cheyenne and Parks argue streaming killed classic album longevity, but Joe counters:

“When a classic hits, it’s easier to tell that this is a classic versus a classic in the 90s, when everything is damn near borderline classic.” – Joe [168:29]

• The group reminisces about release days, the value of physical albums, and “maxi-singles” versus today’s instant music distribution.

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15. Closing Jokes & Weekend Plans

[174:00–end]

• Announcement of Ish winning "Potter of the Month" and banter about the fairness and competitiveness of the podcast’s in-house awards.
• Mona plugs her Detroit show and everyone discusses their (mostly domestic) weekend plans.
• Final laughs, HR-violating jokes, and music send-off.

“Y’all hold it down out there, man… Be safe, stay on your P’s and Q’s... Life is a series of moments and moments pass. So let’s make this one last.” – Joe [175:32–176:23]

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Memorable Quotes

Snack Theft Saga & Diets

• "She got an at-risk youth diet: oatmeal pies, lemonheads, Dr. Pepper, Black & Milds…" – Mark Lamont Hill [06:09]

On Massage Parlor Etiquette

• “The best way to ask is to just, like, show them that you’re hard.” – Mona [13:37]
• “I take a dick pill to go anywhere. I’ll take a dick pill to go to Starbucks.” – Joe [17:23]

On Keeping It Authentic in Hip-Hop

• “If you’re trying to make young music and you’re not, you know, you’re not young, it’s gonna be inauthentic. And people could feel that. You can smell it.” – Jay Z (clip) [125:28]

On Rideshare Racial Profiling

• "Y'all see Black faces like your own and say another driver?" – Mona [79:03]

On Tipping and Black Patrons

• “A lot of times we get bad service because there’s an expectation that we’re not gonna tip.” – Mark [85:16]

On the Downfall of Classics

• “All you gotta do...is four new albums came out this week that you didn’t have to go buy with your money.” – Parks [166:39]
• “When a classic hits, it’s easier to tell that this is a classic versus a classic in the 90s, when everything is damn near borderline classic.” – Joe [168:29]

On Social Media Weaponization

• “That Instagram post was designed to weaponize her fan base.” – Parks [145:01]

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Dr. Pepper Theft & Diet Debate: [00:30–08:24]
• Massage Parlor Stories: [13:00–18:37]
• NBA Playoffs Recap: [38:22–47:15]
• Versus Battles Debate: [49:44–57:34]
• Hip-Hop Longevity & Jay Z Clip: [125:10–136:28]
• Voting Rights and Social Justice: [149:50–154:38]
• Classic Album Listener Question: [165:09–172:50]

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Tone & Vibe

• Irreverent, hilarious, quick-witted banter with moments of intellectual gravity and heartfelt honesty.
• Regular roasting among cast members, especially over food, shoes, or hip-hop opinions.
• Seriousness present in social justice and mental health topics but always balanced with comedy and personal anecdotes.

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This summary encapsulates the episode’s madcap spirit, spanning snack-table mysteries, incisive music industry talk, hard laughs, and real-life debates—the unmistakable signature of The Joe Budden Podcast.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart. Or our own. Enjoy the show. All right, who did it? Who did it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You already know.

[Joe Button]

Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stupid.

[Joe Button]

What happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a couple things happening at once.

[Joe Button]

We had just worked on how we was gonna start the show. You probably missed it because you was going for two hours. But now we got a new star. I'm down to laughing. Me. Go ahead, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, wait. You wrote that?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. Who do you think.

[Parks]

Who you think wrote that? I could actually read it. I was shocked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought his son came.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That might be the best he's ever read.

[Parks]

That's the best he's ever read.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't you look at him doing his letters.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

O.

[Parks]

Oh, man, that shit.

[Mona]

J.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's what that say?

[Parks]

Crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought that was a D. That

[Parks]

shit looked like a D. My nigga.

[Joe Button]

Or a T. Oh, my God, who

[Mona]

we making fun of? Joe?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yes.

[Parks]

Ski.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Because I took initiative and wrote on the board.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't take initiative no more. Don't do that no more.

[Joe Button]

I try not to take initiative. Can y' all read it? Is it legible?

[Parks]

We can read it. That's your best work.

[Joe Button]

I'll just lead it in. I'll lead in it. I'll read it and lead it, I guess if y' all can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We got time.

[Joe Button]

Sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's okay. But there's a bigger issue at play here.

[Mona]

Dyslexia.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a mystery. We have a true crime issue here.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Let's get to the bottom of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We have to.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

We love a whodunit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I do. Especially when it ain't me.

[Joe Button]

When I did it, who did it? So who did it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There were 12.

[Joe Button]

Mona. Man, Mona ain't been here in a minute. Mona got two weeks? That's what I'm saying.

[Mona]

That's a damn lie.

[Joe Button]

Mona ain't been here.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's been two weeks.

[Parks]

Two weeks?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Mona]

It's been two weeks?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

What?

[Parks]

I don't even know how we was gonna function.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, and we was. Mona, the last time she was here, asked for Dr. Pepper as part of her rider. And so.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

In Slim Jim.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In Slim Jims.

[Parks]

In Slim Jims.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And so we got her a 12 pack, and then she got back today. And mind you people clown her for drinking Dr. Pepper like nobody drink that shit.

[Mona]

I like Dr. Pepper.

[Parks]

I don't drink.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait a min. Wait.

[Parks]

You like Dr. Pepper?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exhibit A.

[Joe Button]

Write it down.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I had a Dr. Pepper. You had wonderful one Dr. Pepper.

[Parks]

All right, so now we got nine.

[Joe Button]

Accounting four.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How many did you have, Mona?

[Mona]

I probably had two max.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that means three.

[Mona]

No, I had two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, so and his one, that's three.

[Parks]

His one, that's three. And now we know what the other line.

[Joe Button]

We had three. Dr. Pepper's my G. Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

In one sitting.

[Mona]

First of all, what are you doing

[Parks]

back with the guys?

[Mona]

Can I add to this for. Just because you did a wonderful job, but thank you. First of all, PO brought me to Dr. Pepper. I was going crazy because I deserve a black himal and a soda.

[Parks]

Doctor got it done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black Po. Now I understand he's still trying to

[Joe Button]

figure out how to get it done. Look, you. You did.

[Mona]

You know what's funny? You know what's funny? You call it a who done it. It's not a who done it. It's a ice. It's a Ish done it.

[Parks]

We all did not do it.

[Mona]

Is drunk to Dr. Peps. I got calls all week. We already know ish doesn't drink soda all. I'm not going to give no names.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got informants in here.

[Mona]

People call me and say, yo, if you plan on having a Dr. Pep when you get back, chances are slim to none. Cuz this is cracking the back like brus.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh.

[Mona]

And I'm like, yo, like what? Joe ain't got no water, you know, you know, you know, water war.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You know, he's got a sugar thing.

[Joe Button]

What was the world water.

[Mona]

What year was that last year?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, and he makes 39 teas when he come. You drink Dr. Pepper with your tea, bro.

[Mona]

And I've had his no sugar.

[Parks]

We saw him putting it in the. In the tea kettle.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was wondering why he was pouring that soda in the. In the tea kettle.

[Parks]

If I pour soda in a tea kettle, that would be diabolical. Somebody need to put me in an institution.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You seen it too.

[Mona]

The truth is Ish tries to eat so healthy on a regular basis. He probably had a sugar attack and went crazy. He dropped a 12 pack of diagnosis.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I mean, blacked out.

[Mona]

Who hasn't ever got fucked up on a 12 pack of diet? Like, I mean, come on.

[Parks]

You know, it's mad funny. And I ain't going. I don't do okay. But it's not a bunch of people that are not here. And it's a Bunch. We've had a bunch of guests.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A bunch of people who are not here also.

[Joe Button]

So you do what they do.

[Parks]

Said we had a bunch of guests.

[Joe Button]

You said more than that.

[Parks]

And a bunch of people not here.

[Joe Button]

So you do what they do.

[Parks]

No, I'm not. I drunk three Dr. Peppers. My. I did not drink 12. I don't even really drink 12.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we think you drunk like eight.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Nine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think eight.

[Parks]

We had to do a nine.

[Mona]

I was thinking six, seven, but y'

[Parks]

all really was thinking 10, cuz Parks admitted to the one and y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Button]

But did you purchase any?

[Parks]

I did not.

[Mona]

Ooh, point.

[Joe Button]

Wait, so you went in there?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

This isn't your first soda that got stolen either, if I recall.

[Joe Button]

Parks, hold up for a minute, please. Y' all bring that back. So you went in there. How old are you again? 50. Your big age.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever the answer is 50 is funny.

[Joe Button]

Yo,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yo, we ain't shit.

[Joe Button]

So you went in there at 50, took one that you didn't purchase cuz you was parched. You get. You get one Was hitting some bubbles. You work in mad long, you can

[Cheyenne Bryant]

take one sometimes you need bubbles.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but it was so good.

[Parks]

Had to double back.

[Joe Button]

Somebody on the Internet said that Dr. Pepper's barbecue sprite.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's good.

[Joe Button]

I'm rolling.

[Parks]

I'm rolling. I'm not mad at it. That's genius. That's a good one.

[Joe Button]

You went back in for two more Dr. Peppers. That why you taking stuff that you're not purchasing?

[Parks]

Okay, so one. I drunk one Dr. Pepper two weeks ago, and I drunk two Dr. Peppers last week. So it's not like I'm sitting there binging Dr. Peppers.

[Joe Button]

Well, how many Dr. Peppers did you buy?

[Parks]

None, but that's my people's right there, so we could do that.

[Mona]

I am his people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's just defense.

[Joe Button]

You got me tough. Hey, Mona, you got me. That's where that cute should be working out.

[Parks]

What happened to your oatmeal raisin pies?

[Mona]

That's the thing. That's the thing.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And what happened to the ginger earlier?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Once again, why do you have an at risk youth diet? She got an at risk youth diet. Like oatmeal pies, lemon heads. Fucking Dr. Pepper Black and P Street black.

[Mona]

And the have you this the thing, right?

[Joe Button]

We wouldn't be discussing Delaware Wild. Ain't got too much in there, boy.

[Mona]

Options are limited if didn't touch my perks. To answer your question. Yeah, or I both of y' all oatmeal cream pies missing whole 12 pack gone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Mona]

Parks. I have none Ginger ale and I don't basically everything now at the end of the day, it is my people people that drunk all 12. He did but so it doesn't matter. Like that's my dog. But I would love a Dr. Pep right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, they do it to me all the time, sis. Don't worry about it. You just get used to it.

[Parks]

Niggas ate the. Who ate the oatmeal cream pies?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

We thought you did.

[Mona]

Did you eat any of the oatmeal cream pies? 0 cap.

[Parks]

0.

[Mona]

Bro, I got that shit on my phone. My nigga. Stop it.

[Parks]

Listen, my nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he ain't do that, bro.

[Mona]

He ate with the. He ate him Whippy nigga.

[Parks]

Oh, you said left him here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I had a half of one with you.

[Joe Button]

He bought the beer at 11 o'. Clock.

[Parks]

She said she bought him a half

[Mona]

that I eat as an average youth do these not eat with me.

[Joe Button]

Yo, and by these it's ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish.

[Parks]

Ate 12 oatmeal cream p. Why you

[Joe Button]

keep eating with her?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ate nothing.

[Parks]

She saying she.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's how you used to get changing, boy.

[Parks]

No, it's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She said when did you buy the beer? She said she left like the Dr. Peppers.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm thinking she left a box of oatmeal cream pie here.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I believe she did.

[Parks]

She did.

[Mona]

She did.

[Parks]

She left a box right in there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I didn't eat one.

[Joe Button]

I seen it work before my. I know, I know. I seen my get it done before. That's all for you. You gonna eat all that? That's my favorite. I seen him do that in the strip club. I seen my boy cook with that shit. Mona, you good as going, girl. Anyway, off the Dr. Pepper, order the

[Mona]

cream pies and the Dr. Pets, fellas.

[Parks]

I got you.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's a wild diet.

[Parks]

That's a wild. That's a wild diet that makes that you got a riff youth house diet.

[Joe Button]

Mona, I'm glad you back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're a great miss by the way. You are fucking glad you back.

[Mona]

Thank you so much.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I really mean that, sis.

[Joe Button]

Make some noise. Mona, from the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not the slow claps.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

The shade.

[Parks]

I'm clapping for you, my nigga. Yeah, I'm clapping for you Fast claps too.

[Mona]

What the fuck you looking at like that? What is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's getting at something, I think. I know, but I wanna hear him say it.

[Joe Button]

Who do I have to speak to about how y' all are introduced at these functions.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Our agents. All right.

[Joe Button]

Make sure your group send me the numbers to the agents. I was at the edge of my. I fucking rewind this shit.

[Parks]

What you see?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Make some noise for Phelps. You was there too, nigga. Where the fuck you at now? Phelps ain't here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gonna go green, pops.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Phelps was out there mad teeth showing, happy as hell. Somebody make some noise for Mona from the Don't Call Me White Girl podcast. Stupid. And then she came out. They didn't say nothing else.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want us to always rep the show first and.

[Joe Button]

I didn't say first included. Yeah, I didn't say nothing about first.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sometimes I don't rep it to protect you.

[Joe Button]

I don't want you to rep it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

You. This don't apply to you.

[Mona]

You.

[Joe Button]

Please don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It protects us both.

[Joe Button]

It protects. We align. Oh, my God. Please, you don't.

[Parks]

I want my name known in the Middle east, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark, you can't go to Dubai or nothing.

[Parks]

Word. That is hilarious.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Mark started fighting for rights that I'm cool with. Cool with the pecking order.

[Parks]

I was all right with that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. God, what's wrong with you? Nah, don't with Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When you do that shit, he right. Same thing.

[Parks]

Rights that I'm cool with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want to be associated with some of that shit neither.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean? No facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joining us to discuss the economy from the Joe Button Podcast. Like this don't give me no credibility.

[Joe Button]

Oh,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

shit.

[Parks]

They had you as a. I think it was number eight. Number seven. Number eight on the list.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, it's a list.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's a new list. What's the list?

[Parks]

What's the what? Richest rappers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about that.

[Parks]

So that might give you a little credibility.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, how about that?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think that list was fake.

[Parks]

No, no, that was fake. No, it wasn'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was 100% right.

[Parks]

It's printed and published.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's spring bonus time.

[Parks]

It's online.

[Joe Button]

It's real on the Internet.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's real.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Look how fast they turn, right? They're right.

[Parks]

Feels like number eight.

[Joe Button]

That. That list is not real, you guys.

[Parks]

I don't know who said that.

[Joe Button]

It's. Everybody said it. I called Complex myself.

[Parks]

What? They had him clocked at 500 something. That was wrong.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

500 mil?

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

100 mil. No, no, it's five.

[Joe Button]

I got it.

[Parks]

I have it right here. It's 500.

[Joe Button]

I thought it meant 500,000.

[Parks]

No, it's him next to it. That's what you thought?

[Joe Button]

Oh, then that's wrong.

[Parks]

No, it's wrong. They had you at number nine in the top.

[Joe Button]

It should say popped.

[Parks]

Nah, get the on. Nah.

[Joe Button]

It should say pop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Next to it, the same thing.

[Parks]

But it's cool.

[Joe Button]

My worth should be popped right there. Don't. Don't. It's. Don't fall for the fake stuff.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Let's give a round of applause.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Number nine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Number nine.

[Joe Button]

One of the richest rappers I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We want bonuses.

[Mona]

Clap fast, get no damn bonus.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, some of them get a bonus in the spring. No, I don't know.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

A spring.

[Joe Button]

Girl, you crazy. Spring bonus.

[Mona]

Something.

[Joe Button]

Wait, companies do that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah. All the big ones, especially when they wear half.

[Mona]

All the big ones. Liberal, good ones that.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the ones that's doing the tax

[Mona]

version or the ones that love God.

[Joe Button]

Basically, a spring bonus.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like that idea.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's a great idea.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That could be good for morale for sure.

[Joe Button]

Morale.

[Mona]

Not really.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They're taking all the Dr. Peppers and

[Mona]

creams are treated better. They do better. That's a fact. Like, we've looked all around the world to see employers treat their people real good. Got massage. Masseuse is coming in on breaking all that. Work hard. They want to work hard. Treat you like you. Steal candles and toilet paper. And I tell you one thing, I'm

[Joe Button]

up

[Mona]

like Joe Malone. Still can't. I'm leaving him with something. Denzel voice.

[Parks]

This guy's insane.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Mona]

I made that up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got you in my isolator.

[Mona]

No, that xpm.

[Parks]

No, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll ask you later. It's good. It's good stuff. It's all positive.

[Mona]

Okay. All positive.

[Joe Button]

The other day, I had a few hours free to myself, so I just looked up some massaged massage places in the area. One came highly recommended. So I called him up, say, hey, I want to come in for the hot stone massage. They said, what time? I said, now. They said, bet. Come on through. So I came through.

[Mona]

You don't have to mention the dick suck. Work till you get there.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You typically don't want to do that over the phone. No, it's like drug dealing.

[Joe Button]

For the record, I wasn't going. I wasn't looking for that place.

[Parks]

He said, cooche.

[Joe Button]

That's what you heard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what he always hears.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Dr. Pep in his pocket. I wasn't looking for the dick suck.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay, well, handy baby, did it find you?

[Joe Button]

I was really just.

[Parks]

I Wasn't looking. But, you know, I was really just

[Joe Button]

looking for a massage. Right. So it was parking right across the street. I went in there, and it was dimly lit as it's supposed to be. Yeah. And the place looked like I should have been getting a dick suck. It looked like they was giving out dick socks.

[Mona]

And I didn't know the vibes.

[Joe Button]

So then how do you ask?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just paint the picture. Where was this place in the area?

[Parks]

In the area.

[Joe Button]

I think that he wants the address in the area.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Same area that I said.

[Joe Button]

It's got some maps.

[Parks]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

I was right by Trader Joe's up there. Right there, huh?

[Mona]

I think. I think the best way to ask is to just, like, show them that you're hard.

[Joe Button]

I'm on her,

[Mona]

dog. The worst thing I'm telling you, the worst thing they're gonna say is, oh, not here, sir.

[Parks]

That's the worst thing they gonna say.

[Mona]

The one on the one in Hoboken. Like they're gonna refer you to the right drawing.

[Parks]

That ain't the worst thing.

[Joe Button]

So anyway, the young hot girl. The young hot girl at the front desk pulls me to a room all the way in the back. She escorts me back there. This room looked like it was made for dick sucks.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Sir. Glory hole.

[Joe Button]

No, but it was too many of the fucking doctor Bed wraps over the thing. That's a tell. It was way too many of the. That paper.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

They were stacked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, oh, shit.

[Parks]

Clean all that shit, man.

[Joe Button]

Niggas, they got they dicks up.

[Parks]

Clean it up right quick.

[Joe Button]

So I go in there and it's the fucking. And I'll speed this up. Cause there's really no point to this story. I'm just talking to y'. All. Cause I'm happy to see y'. All.

[Mona]

I'm enjoying it.

[Joe Button]

So I go. And she let me in the room. And then she leave. The young hot receptionist girl, but she don't say nothing. So she ain't telling me if I should get butt ass.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Like, what type of implied.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

That's how. That's how they got to showing

[Mark Lamont Hill]

they

[Cheyenne Bryant]

was fucking the damn.

[Joe Button]

That's different.

[Mona]

If they don't say anything that's indicative of, like, we do we want here. I'm telling you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How much time you spend in these spots?

[Mona]

Shut up. Go ahead, Jim.

[Joe Button]

Well, I didn't.

[Parks]

Of course.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Smart man.

[Parks]

So then the masseuse comes in.

[Joe Button]

I kept my box of briefs on, and I laid down on the thousand sheets of fucking doctor paper.

[Parks]

Oh, you got naked Already?

[Joe Button]

No, I said I kept my box.

[Parks]

You weren't supposed to take your clothes off.

[Mona]

Slow down.

[Joe Button]

No, that's what they close you in there for, so you could.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

So you can change.

[Mona]

Get in your bed, pull that dick out.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you a freaky boy. Oh, wait. He wait till she come in and do the move. Oh, yeah,

[Mona]

he does what I said you should do. Pull me out off the gumball.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you don't pull the meat out.

[Mona]

You don't pull me out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What the is y' all say? Get your book.

[Mona]

Start the party.

[Parks]

Yo, I ain't got no bell money.

[Mona]

Don't say nothing. You feel me? Jump.

[Joe Button]

So I laid down on the thingamajig. And if I was a creep nigga, that is the right move.

[Mona]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Take a little dick pill. Let that shit just shoot that motherfucker. Let's just shoot right up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Taking a dick pill at the spa.

[Mona]

You trying to get your money's worth.

[Joe Button]

I take a dick pill to go anywhere. I'll take a dick pill to go to Starbucks.

[Parks]

Exactly.

[Mona]

Why not?

[Joe Button]

What are you talking about? Vic

[Mark Lamont Hill]

just talk.

[Joe Button]

You think I'm buying all these fucking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He shooting.

[Joe Button]

I can't hear him.

[Parks]

Hell no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The size. He said Benji. I said no. Just tall.

[Parks]

Oh, so as tall as the small.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I understand the Starbucks sizes, Fish. I know you laughing and cracking on my me size.

[Parks]

I gave you benefit of the doubt. I tried to help my man out.

[Joe Button]

No, you all right, we'll talk later. We'll talk later. Cause you can't play with me like that. Anyway. Fucking. So I lay down on the thing and some big ass E. Honda chick come in there. Oh, this is a totally different vibe. Nigga, she got the strongest hands in the world. She start throwing me all around the room.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's what you want.

[Parks]

She really be the best massages.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, the they don't.

[Joe Button]

Yes, they do.

[Parks]

Oh, yes they do.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Big ass soft tails.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I ain't say nothing about that. Ain't feel big and soft to me. She's man and let me. And I lost weight. You know what's that bad?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's like a tissue.

[Mona]

I bet you that dick suck crazy though.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

The handy for sure

[Parks]

strong handy. Nah, you can't get the strong.

[Mona]

You got the big ass man has your own balls and dick in one hand.

[Joe Button]

You can tell by like your own hand. You can tell by under your butt. If, if. If she with the.

[Parks]

I thought you don't know nothing about that.

[Joe Button]

Wait, I don't.

[Mona]

What you say?

[Parks]

I don't got him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gotti what?

[Joe Button]

I don't.

[Parks]

I know you don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you do. You heard. You heard it, right?

[Joe Button]

You could tell by they do your

[Mark Lamont Hill]

butt how she do his butt.

[Joe Button]

How you do the butt.

[Mona]

You can tell how she do his ass. To see what though He. He gave this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She with the shit.

[Mona]

The way she massages his ass is how he know if she'll suck a dick or give him a hand job or whatever else. All right, bet.

[Joe Button]

Let's make sure I was comprehending with the hot stones.

[Mona]

They're not supposed to touch your ass, guys.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I want to ask massage.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's Philly massage.

[Mona]

I'm not allowed to touch your ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I have no idea.

[Parks]

Mona, you're getting a full body massage

[Mona]

and you can touch ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Mona]

But you can't touch balls.

[Joe Button]

It's no, you can't touch balls.

[Mona]

You can't touch balls. I don't get it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For dudes is different too. Like, I mean. Yeah. Them doing an ass massage ain't nothing. Grabbing your balls is like sexual.

[Mona]

On a woman you can't. You could touch her ass in the massage. No.

[Parks]

Yes on a woman.

[Mona]

I never had my ass massaging a full body.

[Joe Button]

You ain't been on the raft. They do that right there on. On the raft with the little paint.

[Mona]

Oh my God. In Jamaica.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Parks]

That's what they be trying to do, Winston.

[Joe Button]

Hey, that was racist.

[Mona]

I got a rap story. I'll tell it one day. I got a rap story though.

[Parks]

Donovan, man.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you a man. He's still racist.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He ain't wrong though.

[Parks]

That on our rifle name Ryan. Oh, man.

[Mona]

Shout out to you Ryan, if you're watching.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God.

[Mona]

I still think about you sometimes.

[Parks]

I bet you do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I bet.

[Mona]

I sure do.

[Parks]

Ryan. Pop.

[Mona]

I let him finger me a little bit. Just a little bit.

[Joe Button]

It's the realest in show.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Just a tip.

[Mona]

Yeah, literally just a T. Like just the pinky ring finger combo. And that's the thing. Cuz they be. They be rub you or whatever. If you don't say nothing then keep going. You know what I mean? I don't say that.

[Joe Button]

Chill, chill. He getting chill, chill, chill. Big Mona moving over there. You doing it to him. He gets so mad at me.

[Parks]

I hear you. But it's like to be a real and do for that real do that.

[Mona]

Why you be on the Internet typing

[Parks]

messages trying to some you ain't gonna never get. I'm me me. It's gonna be real for the win every time. You just fantasized by on the Internet. I'M in real life.

[Mona]

Who you? I'm you. The where we fuck no matter where we fuck. I don't fuck. I've been with you eight years, so I don't fuck before. But when we don't matter where, we just think about eight years we've been together. And added up I done you enough to last a lifetime. Gotta you every day. Gotta every day. Well, you tell like you want to, but you act like you want to. Every day you telling these goddamn people like we. We like we just don't matter. We just or not we've been for eight years. We don't. Okay, well, we don't. I done. Okay, say that. Say that. Say that. Say that. Just think about the memories.

[Joe Button]

Just think about the memories. Greatest show in the world. Y' all know what the fuck time

[Mark Lamont Hill]

it is right now.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to the patronies, all the subgroups out there, the communities and all that go subscribe right now if you have yet not done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So.

[Joe Button]

Big Bronx, big Bronx, what up?

[Mona]

We strapped up like beef? Whatever you do, sis, keep it cute Sis leave that beef and shit on roof Chris, I end up toothless.

[Joe Button]

Big Bronx, five New York, what up, Jersey? What up?

[Mona]

Hello, it's me hello, it's me hello, it's me. Telling mama it be me just looking perfect head to toe love it be you out here just looking Shout to

[Joe Button]

wherever you might be listening from Everybody outside right now. North carolina, south carolina, florida.

[Mona]

Stupid. Ha. My boy, talk to me like what you are hey, it be you out here distressing over you looking for him here right here under my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, sir,

[Joe Button]

Atlanta, what up? Don't go nowhere. We got a special segment just for you.

[Parks]

Before I got money I wasn't to

[Mark Lamont Hill]

try kicking do and I'm just being

[Mona]

honest him throw me a 60 if I go to magical honest I'm just

[Mark Lamont Hill]

being honest I keep a stick or a blicky in case it get sticky

[Joe Button]

I'm just being honest in case you

[Parks]

know that I'm with it I'm having

[Mark Lamont Hill]

this chicken, this trick and I'm just

[Mona]

being honest I'm with that who really getting Be honest?

[Parks]

Hey, Pop should be giving Be honest she rare like a pan I got

[Mark Lamont Hill]

rats in the back of

[Parks]

my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Always for the ladies Always for the ladies. Let the body set the floor

[Mona]

Bo, It's okay to shake that ass tonight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Bryson.

[Joe Button]

What up, boy?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I won't judge you, baby.

[Mona]

Your secret sa B I won't dare.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I need to hear this outside. Tonight I do this Bryce a new record. This Bryce new record I need to hear this outside. I do. Where we at tonight, man? Where we at? What we doing? What we doing tonight? Me and you splash brothers back.

[Parks]

I'll be at my home.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but what about before you get in the house? Where we stopping at before you get home?

[Parks]

The Joe Button podcast.

[Joe Button]

Gotta do a late night episode. All right. I see what's going on at work late tonight, hun. All right, let's work.

[Mona]

Let's eat.

[Joe Button]

All right. God damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Button]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Let me keep this applause going right quick so they know what time it is. So glad y' all could be here with us today. So glad y' all could be here. And Mona. Mona. Oh, girl, please. Oh, girl, please with that. You're done. You're done. Now what episode is this?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

925.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 925 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Pitch. Prize Pitch. Gang, we are close enough for me to ask y' all what we should do for the thousandth episode. 9, 25. This is moving a little bit, boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It gotta be live.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Field trip.

[Joe Button]

Field trip live somewhere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All the above. Field trip. Live.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay. Spring bonuses.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, okay. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What y' all think? Newer couch. What y' all think?

[Parks]

All of the above. Sounds good to me.

[Joe Button]

All of the above.

[Parks]

Gotta be some fly.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, gotta be fly.

[Parks]

Gotta be fly.

[Joe Button]

All right. What color y' all want the balloons to be? What color? Red.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think they should be like.

[Joe Button]

I want some red and gold.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They should probably be green to match the blue skies in the sand.

[Joe Button]

That will be boom, boom.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You know what I mean? It'd be like palm trees, sort of a balloon.

[Parks]

How they join over Tanzania or something somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Audience. As you can see, I got the greatest cast in the world right here. I got the greatest crew in the world right here. You're really going to enjoy this show. To my right. Stop playing with her, man. Big Mona Phillies finest from the Don't Call Her White Girl Nigga show. Makes a noise for moaning. Big moan in the building. Mona, you doing all right? You doing good?

[Mona]

Yeah, I guess.

[Joe Button]

Good, good. We absolutely love that. Next to her, our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Come on, man. Y' all know what time it is. Mr. I'm going straight home after work. Mr. Thousand doors and up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I believe this is our Potter of the month.

[Parks]

New Potter of the month.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mr. Potter of the Month. It's time to chain them.

[Joe Button]

Let's make some noise. Let's make some noise. Wait, hold on, hold on. Don't chain them yet, Parks. Don't chain them yet, Parks. We gotta check his team.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't think I can get behind him.

[Joe Button]

We gotta check his temperature. You know, he think he cute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, it's chaining day, man. You ready?

[Joe Button]

All right. You on the chain month one. You said them. Them fans, but your performance was so great. That didn't stop the Boulders. You can't control what they do when they go into voting booth democracy. So anyway, I put the chain on, made it a hotline, wore it all month. Really excited. Parks one next. Made it a hot song. He wore it all month.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

This beautiful fucking thing.

[Joe Button]

We worked so hard to build this thing up from when you totally just shit it on this shit.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So get the shit out of here.

[Joe Button]

We just wanted just a little bit of fun. You could take it right off. But if you don't mind, can we please just. Can we please just. Come on, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can you put the channel on you?

[Parks]

Can he put the chain on you?

[Joe Button]

Can we take the chain on you, man?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, man, let's go. I'm doing a good time, man. Sell it out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's definitely selling out, man. Give him a reach around.

[Joe Button]

Somebody got to chain him.

[Parks]

You good, my brother?

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I did the best I could with.

[Joe Button]

He ain't never had a chain. He don't nothing. Oh, you did it. There we go.

[Mona]

Yeah,

[Parks]

let's go.

[Joe Button]

This motherfucker. You niggas voted for him after you mother.

[Mona]

That's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, all right.

[Joe Button]

Let's hear from. Let's hear from the person most.

[Mona]

Speech.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Speech.

[Parks]

Speech.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, let's hear from. Come on. How you feel, Mark?

[Mona]

I feel great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel great.

[Joe Button]

You thought you thought you had it in the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought I ran a competitive race. I thought all of us did. I thought Imani did. I thought, you know, Parks did again. I thought everybody did. But it stood tall, man. I'm of you proud. Proud of him.

[Joe Button]

I, Chris Paul it for my boy, you know, I mean, I put that ball right where it needed to go for my boy to turn up. Can't nobody with him when all the vaginas just come in all month. When his vagina is coming in all month.

[Parks]

Y' all couldn't with my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely have to pick her right up.

[Joe Button]

Look at my boys.

[Mona]

This is rigged.

[Parks]

Yo, you got a problem, yo, Shut up. Yo, your man, your man is mental, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's time for you to accept the speech, and you can't. You Gotta tell you can't do the January one. You suck my dick.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You got.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Mona]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Button]

That's a lot, my nigga.

[Mona]

And that's what y' all get from picking a voters.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hope you heard that.

[Parks]

Oh, that's what you doing to me though, bro.

[Mona]

Thank you. It's crazy. Talk to the people you gonna sell out. Sell out?

[Parks]

Yeah, you gotta sell all the way out. Yeah, like, you gotta sell out.

[Mona]

I love that y' all love me. I'm so glad y' all like me. Tell em.

[Parks]

If it was true, I would say that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Mona]

Basically, fuck y' all. Me or not.

[Parks]

Fuck you, miss to take it further himself.

[Joe Button]

Oh, at least thank me too.

[Mona]

Yes, you helped.

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Button]

What?

[Parks]

I'm thanking you for anything.

[Joe Button]

Anything you feel like it. I don't care.

[Mona]

Out of here.

[Joe Button]

Out of here. This won't.

[Parks]

God.

[Joe Button]

Next. Next to ish. Our potter of the month. Big freeze in the building.

[Parks]

Yo, yo.

[Joe Button]

Next to freeze. A former part potter of the month.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Hey, man, it was a good run.

[Joe Button]

Whole swag look different now. Chainless.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I feel that is heavy without the chain. Comfortable without the chain.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but you lost some sauce.

[Parks]

That's all right.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I'm okay with that.

[Joe Button]

He was running around too. Swagged out. He was playing. Yeah, that's why she popped it on him. Cheyenne. Yeah, he was bugging in here. The privilege was shining.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, the street. The streets got her back for you. I don't know. I didn't. Yeah. Pop the. In our group chat. I don't know how, but someone put it there. I saw it. I was like, before it got.

[Mona]

People don't play about white men.

[Joe Button]

Before. Before it got to the group chat, at least 27 women sent that to me. Seriously. People were mad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They hot.

[Joe Button]

I ain't joking.

[Mona]

I just didn't. Let me. Let me.

[Parks]

You know how many times I got that they hot? Seven zillion times.

[Joe Button]

Like, you know, I love that people love porks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love that.

[Joe Button]

I love that for the. For the. For the guy man cave that this is. Because that is what it is. I love that when women hear it over there. And the guy came, hey, what they saying? Oh, no, we gotta go over there. No, no, no, we gotta go over there. We. We know that the dudes is rocking, but they can't rock that much. I love that.

[Parks]

Yo, dog, a lot of women will be like, yo, I don't even like when y' all have women guests.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

They be like, yo, dawg, I want to hear all dudes Talk about dude shit. And I just want to hear it coming from dudes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No, they tearing up.

[Parks]

Nah, they. They smoking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They going after everything. What she said, her background, all of the license shit.

[Parks]

They was going. They going crazy.

[Joe Button]

But the worst is when a super educated, respectful black woman is doing it. Cause she gonna. She gonna. Yo, my God, we gonna play that at some point. Mark, you put in the group chat that. So she's a friend.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I should play as long.

[Joe Button]

No, no, we don't need to play right now.

[Parks]

Let's not start with that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, we love Cheyenne.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, I.

[Joe Button]

We love Cheyenne. That's where it gets tricky too.

[Parks]

Yeah, you can't play that and say I love you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we can't play it. Yes, we can. I mean, we could play it, but I wouldn't. But we could.

[Mona]

You cannot do it on the Joe Button show. You can.

[Parks]

Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Listen to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't what the you talking about, but we'll think about it. Empathy.

[Parks]

Empathy.

[Joe Button]

One and two.

[Parks]

Yes, you could.

[Joe Button]

You might have a point. I never want to agree with Corey. So I'm gonna revisit this and we'll see later on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause then somebody asked me, a very important black leader hit me up this morning and said, could you have that person on the show here to discuss that video? And I was like. I said, I'm not a booker. I don't have no power. I said, but I can't imagine they would bring on somebody to refute a guest who just came on. I said, that wouldn't be cool. You know what I mean?

[Parks]

Yeah, not just that. That's the homie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Like, to have somebody come on and be like. Like,

[Joe Button]

I don't follow the same homie rules.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We know as y'.

[Joe Button]

All. This is why I don't have a lot of homies.

[Mona]

That's not the first time, though, people bring up her having an honorary doctorate. People say that all the time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She doesn't have one. It's loud, though.

[Parks]

It's loud right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She has an ear. To clarify, just for everyone out there, Dr. Cheyenne Bryant has an earned degree. Some people have honorary degrees. And she may have one. She does have an honorary degree, but it's not the only degree she has. She has an earned.

[Mona]

I said, doctor.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm saying she has an honorary doctorate. She also has an earned doctorate from Argosy University. A R G O S Y. Now, some people might point to the.

[Mona]

You said Igor University.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What did you say Argosy? I don't know how to pronounce it.

[Mona]

I'm letting it go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think that's right. I think I had never heard of it, but it was a legitimate university. And even though they're not open anymore.

[Mona]

They're not open anymore.

[Joe Button]

And, Mark, come on. Don't throw all this stuttering what y' all talking about.

[Mona]

And nobody else.

[Joe Button]

He's being shady, man.

[Parks]

That's it.

[Mona]

Nobody else.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's what he's doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not stuttering.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, he's being.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you've been a jerk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not.

[Mona]

No.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you are.

[Mona]

So what are you saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You killed a bit when you do it like that.

[Mona]

She went. Icdc.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's back. No, she went to a. The school's not open anymore. Yes, that's true, but. But the particular degree she has in clinical psychology is respected and is still honored all around the country. So that's what I'm saying, in all seriousness. She has a legitimate degree that is respected and is eligible for licensure. So that's that. Let's put a period there. Again, disagree with the sister, but she's legit. She's legit. And we love you. Ish.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mona]

You want to say anything?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This usual part of the month picks up the next.

[Parks]

No, no, no, it's not.

[Mona]

You say. You want to say something like heavy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm changing the subject. I'm moving to something else.

[Mona]

Do you want to close it out?

[Parks]

He did a great job.

[Joe Button]

It's closed.

[Mona]

All right.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's a pro right there.

[Guest Speaker]

Let's go.

[Joe Button]

Knicks echoed across, took over Atlanta as the Hawks walked off the court for the final time this season, suffering an embarrassing, historic loss. 51 points to the New York Knicks. They trailed by 61 at one point, a playoff record. They trailed by 4:47 at halftime, also a playoff record. You take all the numbers and stats, and it's a disappointing finish to what was a great ending of a Hawk season. At no point in time at all this season were we that bad, but we were tonight. Didn't anticipate that one.

[Guest Speaker]

I have to go back and watch that one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was. That was brutal.

[Joe Button]

It's hard. Yeah.

[Parks]

Go back and watch in the front

[Mona]

of your mind right now, you know,

[Parks]

this is what you're living with, and,

[Mona]

you know, as we all go away

[Joe Button]

and, you know, come back together to

[Parks]

kind of find closure.

[Joe Button]

The Hawks struggled in the final three games of the series. In fact, they were outscored by 103 points in the final 13 quarters. An indictment of how dominant New York was down.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That shit was ugly. That was built to assume definition thereof.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Thanksgiving kid in your bag, bro. Just dead birds all around. Everywhere you could look. They said that we were in State farm. It was just a farm in a state.

[Parks]

State farmer good rapper brain.

[Joe Button]

Listen, man, the Knicks went to Atlanta, had some magic city wings. Hit up some of their good Atlanta friends just to say, hey, I'm in town but won't be here for long. Knicks went over there and just finished they food, man. Quick work, light work. Wasn't even a game at all. Wasn't even a game. Nothing that CJ could do. Kaminga. Dominique didn't walk through that door.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Stacey Alvin.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. None of them. None of them was coming through the door. So many people had so many things. Things to say. Draymond Green.

[Parks]

Draymond.

[Joe Button]

Everybody was talking that whole Atlanta Hawks. Atlanta Hawks gonna hold up.

[Mona]

Thanks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who wins? Lou will wanna hot take us again.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I like his sick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like his six either.

[Joe Button]

Lou Will Chandler Parsons do it atn. Yeah, there you go.

[Mona]

Threw up the A. I like it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, I like.

[Joe Button]

Shut up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What are you supposed to say?

[Joe Button]

Listen to Shayla Parsons. They dapping each other. I like them. They're playing just as good as anybody again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like this is just 24 hours.

[Joe Button]

Shut the up is you talking about, man. The Knicks went down to Atlanta and stomped an absolute mud hole in them. I started watching the game. We got off to a 10, 15 point lead. But I booked the stretcher point appointment. So I had to go and get stretched in some way.

[Parks]

Massage and stretching somewhere in the middle and that. Getting stretched every week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Would they stretch?

[Mona]

Yeah, getting stretched out like getting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I mean like.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God.

[Mona]

Sorry, yo. That sounded crazy, but like getting like getting like taken over.

[Joe Button]

Yo, Mona, what's up with you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

That little dead right now. I just wanted I was in the

[Mona]

mood before Dr. Pepper.

[Joe Button]

Bro.

[Mona]

I'm a little upset.

[Joe Button]

That shit is Dr. Pepper.

[Mona]

I ain't gonna OG fuck off all of you.

[Joe Button]

Somewhere halfway through my stretch appointment, I reached down to my phone. But I was feeling good cause of how I left the game. Like they looked great og hitting shit. Nothing to worry about. And the phone said 74 to 19. I wiped my eyes like this. The typo. Cause you notice that band be making my vision blurry now. So I did like this.

[Parks]

That's.

[Joe Button]

That really said 74 to 19 with time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Laughing. That was crazy.

[Joe Button]

It was time laugh.

[Parks]

I was in an uber holy mad

[Cheyenne Bryant]

as hell in the man cave watching the game like, all right, I guess I'm gonna do now.

[Joe Button]

But.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, if you put any money on anybody on Atlanta, I picked safe bet. Unless you took the under and they ain't hit.

[Joe Button]

That shit was congratulations to the Knicks. I mean, we not gonna make a big to do about this. You did. We did what we were supposed to do.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

We did what we were supposed to do. None really to celebrate. Feels good to have the weekend off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here we go. Here we go.

[Joe Button]

Feels good to not be playing a game Saturday at 6pm Fighting for your fucking life. Y' all wanted me to be. These are Celtics y' all wanted me to worry about.

[Mona]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's not just start talking about Celtics hurt.

[Parks]

No guarantee.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Seven for a reason.

[Joe Button]

These the Celtics and the. And the pissed ons that y' all wanted me to worry about. I'll mute. Let me let Mark get his bag. Hey, congratulations to the Knicks. Atlanta happens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is. This is a Sixers broadcast now. More half the cast here. The majority of the cast here. Sixers fans.

[Mona]

That's right.

[Parks]

That's a fact.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Philadelphia 1776ers have done something very special this playoff season.

[Joe Button]

Extended a series.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People. I told you at the beginning they were gonna make this a tough series for Boston. People laugh. People clown. And I said if we were healthy. Embiid didn't even play the first few games and we still made it competitive. That first game back, I was a little nervous about how we look with him in the mix. But he got it going.

[Joe Button]

He erased that quickly in the next game. He reminded us as soon as I got home and said whatever I said on the Patreon. Embiid came back, fucked it all up.

[Parks]

He killed the first game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but it was. He was just out of rhythm with the team. He scored the first 12 points. Nobody else was in the. In the flow.

[Joe Button]

But last night, that nigga was for behind the back pass assist. He was bugging.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And now we in a game seven.

[Joe Button]

You know, he bugging. He started having Kelly Ubrick look like something. What's my man name? Kelly Osborne.

[Mona]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gonna know his name next series. If we make it.

[Joe Button]

He be getting torched by the next. He too tall to be getting torched.

[Parks]

But once he start looking good, he tough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's streaky when he's hot. He's hot, though. And VJ Edgecomb hasn't shown up. As much as I would like to see him in game. You know, after that big. The one big game he had Paul

[Joe Button]

George was looking like old. Paul George.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Paul George.

[Parks]

Probably the most rested nigga on the court.

[Joe Button]

Vintage Paul George.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he looking rested, in shape. Playoff shape. Maxi's playing great. Embiid looks great. You know the bench is doing great.

[Joe Button]

Cal Lowry on the bench giving good advice. Mute up, nigga. He over there being the vet, calming Maxie down. Yo, we don't need a tape right now.

[Parks]

That's what you want.

[Joe Button]

God damn it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Kyle Lowry. Yo, we. We go. It's going to be a great game seven, no matter what the game is tonight.

[Joe Button]

Do you like Yalls chances?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, I like our chances in game seven, yeah.

[Mona]

Hell yeah, I like our chances.

[Joe Button]

Do you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pull it out.

[Joe Button]

Pause.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm never going to say that my Sixers are going to lose publicly, so I'll just drink this coffee.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hope we win. But, I mean, if I was betting money, it's hard. It's hard to win three. Three games in Boston, and they've already won two in Boston. The game seven on a roll road. We've seen this movie before.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna lie to you. I really hope that y' all lose.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know he's your hater, and I really hope we win.

[Joe Button]

It's not. It's not. It's not.

[Parks]

Y' all match up with them.

[Joe Button]

Well, first of all, we gonna beat whoever they put in front of us. That's my position. However, I much rather the Boston matchup than Philly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, there's one more piece.

[Joe Button]

I was just telling Parks outside. Joel embiid gonna injure 1 to 3 Knicks for sure. Like, purposely every time. 2. Tyrese Maxey is a matchup problem for us as is. And if Paul George is doing all that, it's just Philly seemed like more of a headache.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Boston and all them little shooting white boys like we black. That's when the melanin kick in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Richard get busy.

[Parks]

That's the only thing with Boston. Boston legitimately got two superstars that are

[Mark Lamont Hill]

hard to guard or one and a half right now. That's the thing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Cause Tatum's hurt.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Tatum is not looking looking. I mean, he left the game with a left half injury. We don't know how bad it is if he is slowed down. The Sixers do win game seven, by the way. I'm. I'm.

[Parks]

I agree with that.

[Joe Button]

Celtics might play better without him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I was about to say, yo, they. They played the whole season without him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I just don't like Boston decision making. Same like them. Be out there playing street ball, they have no real offensive continuity. It's just, yo, if you got the ball and you could take them, take them. If you. You take them, take them. It don't. They don't swing the ball. They don't do none of that. It's all penetrating kick.

[Joe Button]

Antoine, in the playoffs on the pod, you can only talk about your team.

[Parks]

My team is still in the playoffs.

[Joe Button]

Where's it at, though?

[Parks]

Los Angeles.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm saying Where's the series? 3, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By the time. Yeah, by the time this airs, we will have a resolution to that game.

[Parks]

What you saying?

[Joe Button]

No, I'm not a Laker hater. I'm not a Laker hater.

[Parks]

Sarcasm.

[Mona]

Him.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm not a Laker hater. You doing too much, Philly. Let him wrap. Wrap up with your sixes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sixes again. If Tatum has slowed down like the sixes in. In. In this series and then I like, I like us against the Knicks. We'll make a little bet. We always do.

[Joe Button]

Don't put the car before the horse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said if I don't, I don't. I don't ever count chickens before they have before the horse. But real quick, I know we don't want to talk too much sports up front.

[Joe Button]

We definitely don't. We lose them on about a second. I almost went the honest and they don't even notice a misogynist.

[Parks]

Yo, yo, yo, dick. Coochie ass.

[Mona]

Oh, you woke up first of all. Go Sixers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you. Thank you, Minnesota. Denver. The only thing I woke.

[Mona]

Coochie ass. He be letting y' all know all the time.

[Joe Button]

He text that to you at first

[Mona]

and then he said it in the m. What?

[Joe Button]

Okay, go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel like I have to now everybody see.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Went home. Denver went home. At what point? I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

Oh, please. Denver don't get no airtime in the first round.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying. But at what point do people start looking at YIC funny? They said the stat show.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He. He's never beat the team that won over 50 games in the playoffs. I'm just saying that's a real stat. Is. Is. Is this a legacy question? I'm just asking the question.

[Joe Button]

Wait, you down with me on the Joker hate? I can't tell where you standing on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love Joker.

[Joe Button]

Oh, all right. The ones Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I fucking love Joker. I love Joker, but at some point, you gotta look at the facts are what they are. And I just feel like there's some other players who if they had that exact same outcome in the playoffs, we'd be talking about legacy and all this other shit. That's all I'm saying.

[Parks]

1.

[Joe Button]

Seriously, let's argue about. Argue about Joker in hour three. But I'm down with.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm not the biggest Joker fan.

[Joe Button]

Me neither.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He is what he is.

[Joe Button]

Homeboy stepped his business, too. Tried to throw that. Throw that nigga on the floor. Yeah, nigga, your brothers ain't here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think they was. Them brothers be there.

[Parks]

Oh, they definitely the black Members only jackets looking like.

[Joe Button]

Looking like Bam Bam Bigelow on steroids. Them is big. All right, Mona, we back. No more sports. Back to fun. Let's talk about stealing cars and come on, let's just get you back in the game. What do y' all want to start with? What do y' all want to start with?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Want to do verses?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

The Versus announcement.

[Mona]

All right.

[Parks]

Yo, they announced French Montana versus Rick Ross.

[Mona]

That's stupid.

[Parks]

Yeah, that was my. That was my first thought, honestly.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Me too. I thought. I love French and he's got a lot of records, so it's not going to be no easy out, but it's. It's a. It's a weird matchup.

[Mona]

It's a weird matchup, bro. It could have been so much more competition for Rick. Hold up. He calling people.

[Joe Button]

I'm calling my Wale.

[Mona]

Oh,

[Joe Button]

we got it. We. It's. We have to be the ones to do it. If not, we going to be stuck talking about French and Ross.

[Parks]

Come on.

[Mona]

Wale don't answer for Joe Buton.

[Joe Button]

Nah, not on. Not on Fridays and Tuesdays.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Not at all.

[Mona]

I'm sorry.

[Parks]

God damn it.

[Mona]

He going to call back, yo.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Text w. He'll call back at like

[Parks]

7pm Text W. Yo, not answering his own know.

[Joe Button]

Listen, this Ross and friendship. For a second, we could do. Y' all know that it has to be us to put the battery in. Somebody's back to get Meek versus Wale.

[Parks]

Yeah. Yeah, it does.

[Joe Button]

When y' all sent French verse Ross to the group chat. I just hung up with Swizz for three hours trying to get. We gotta do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the one.

[Mona]

You be on the phone with Swiss beats.

[Joe Button]

No, that's the thing. That's the thing.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yesterday was.

[Joe Button]

So when you get. When you on the phone, you get able to. It's serious business.

[Mona]

Yeah, real.

[Joe Button]

Some of you are behind the scenes. Oh, I don't get paid. It's for the love. It's for the love of the culture. Some of these are behind the scenes being afraid, and they robbing the culture, they robbing the fans, so we can't get the. The. The bounce in the matches.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Who's afraid?

[Parks]

Parks want to say who's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's.

[Mona]

Who's scared.

[Joe Button]

That's just what I'm hearing. And are scared behind the scenes. I'm not saying that.

[Parks]

That's not. Not either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wale one of the participants.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying that about either.

[Parks]

Not at all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wally ain't scared of nothing.

[Parks]

Tough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I don't think Meek's scared of nothing.

[Mona]

But this the thing, though, right? People? It's probably been. That probably happened so many times. People make up different reasons why they don't want to do it and really just be scared. Sometimes fear misrepresents itself like that.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Both of them have so many records. I don't think either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think scared.

[Joe Button]

Enough of that. Enough of that.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Enough of so many records. We getting into the psyche of these men. There's tension.

[Mona]

They.

[Joe Button]

Wale has to do this and win. Just because Meek think he the. You think he is Meek? Meek think he Apollo Creed or somebody. If Wale stepping in, Meek gonna feel like, nah, nigga, we gotta nix that. I thought we can't have Meek feeling like that.

[Mona]

I thought they didn't like each other. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Oh, come on, Wale. Yo, when I call, I'mma call you all week. Answer, my man. We ain't going to have Meek feeling like.

[Parks]

Why do you think Meek feel like that?

[Joe Button]

I think Meek feel like that.

[Parks]

I'm saying, why do you think he feels like that?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He got a lot of big records.

[Parks]

I just wonder why you think you feel that way.

[Joe Button]

I think his attitude. I think his attitude and how the MMG went and how he was carrying it, and I think how he maybe looked at Wale in that. Yeah, I think they look at Wale like the poetry nigga.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I think they look at him a certain type of way, and, man, and I need to see it. I need to see it. All right, but come on back to Ross and French.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Ross and French.

[Joe Button]

Ross and French. Look, look, look what we get now. Friends. Yeah, friends.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want to see that.

[Joe Button]

Friends. Yo, these love each other. They got a song out now.

[Parks]

They got a bunch of. This is about to be a joint.

[Joe Button]

They about to battle each other with each other's vocals on all the records that they play.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yep. This is free pro promo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what it feel like.

[Parks]

This is money grab. A free promo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This ain't no verses.

[Joe Button]

This is A versus, Cuz, while they ain't answering my call.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When y' all put that on?

[Joe Button]

And this is when.

[Parks]

What.

[Joe Button]

When is this?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

May week. I think Thursday.

[Joe Button]

Thursday. Cinco de Mayo.

[Parks]

No, the seventh.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Seventh.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the seventh.

[Parks]

All right, I'm about to say Siete de Mayo.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Thanks for the translation.

[Joe Button]

Seven in Spanish.

[Parks]

That's.

[Joe Button]

That's what you take.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Who y' all got with it, man?

[Parks]

Nobody.

[Joe Button]

I got Ross.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ross. And I don't think it's gonna be close.

[Parks]

I don't have. This is a matchup.

[Joe Button]

This is not a match.

[Parks]

It's not a matchup. The fans win. It's one of those. Those who love both their music go there, get turned up. That's who's gonna win.

[Joe Button]

They gonna be up there hugging and dapping.

[Parks]

Do you think NBA? Come on.

[Joe Button]

No, no. But I do think that French has a lot of features.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He got a lot of slaps.

[Joe Button]

Listen, when he did the verses with Tornado Story, a lot of people say the French put belt to ass because of all the future verses.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's what he's.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

You think he beats Ross? No, I'm just saying that's where he's going to get him at. Like, French Feature Bag is crazy. It's deep. A lot of people don't realize it. That's where he. That's his. That's where his advantage is.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Even his records, he got.

[Joe Button]

He's got his own records.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They're not all just features that he. He killed, but he's got a lot of, like, remixes and like that. That he killed for. Sure. Unforgettable is his record. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it is.

[Joe Button]

It is technically by force.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Get it how you get it.

[Joe Button]

That's a big record.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's a huge record.

[Parks]

It's a big record. Diamond.

[Joe Button]

Say what you want.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's a huge record.

[Parks]

It's my diamond record.

[Joe Button]

I just like Ross when he. In his bag. Like when him and Two Chains was doing it and he was getting the massages and the shirt off. The shirt off. The Whatever. The Bel Air Rose, whatever.

[Parks]

I mean, he's still gonna do all of that. You're gonna talk your. You'll be up there on this big money.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's Rick Ross.

[Mona]

It's Ross.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I think he wins the bat.

[Mona]

But it's different when he's being spicy, though.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

It's not the same. Rick Ross gets spice. Like, Rick Ross could talk with the best of them. Rick Ross not somebody that. That's why Rick Ross at 50 was like, cool to see. Because he going to pop it. He's not going to ignore it.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah, he's not going to do.

[Mona]

That's what I mean.

[Parks]

I'm not trying to.

[Mona]

He's not gonna get that energy. It's just corny. Like, it's just corny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think Ross is going to be more entertaining. I think French going to play a bunch of great records. Ross going to play a bunch of great records. I think the whatever happens live is going to go to Ross's advantage and I think he's going to win it. And I think it's going to be clear that he won it. But, but, but French is going to look great.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's going to be a lot of hugging.

[Joe Button]

They're going to do a bunch of together. Ross can't play no Drake records.

[Parks]

Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the question.

[Parks]

He probably won't.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He probably will.

[Joe Button]

Didn't they be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He'll play him and talk about it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, he probably would do it and talk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is with the white boy. That's all you do.

[Parks]

And I don't need him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't need.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

But you would like to use.

[Parks]

I said my words. I use my words for a reason. He don't need.

[Mona]

He don't need them for the French joint.

[Parks]

He does not need those records.

[Mona]

No, he don't. It's French.

[Joe Button]

You taking. You taking the joints off now.

[Parks]

I know we want.

[Joe Button]

That's one of the best duos in hip hop history.

[Parks]

I'm not. I'm not saying saying that. When them two. That is a fact. That is a fact. I'm talking about. If this were of verses and it's my catalog versus yours. Ross can beat French without Drake records. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but don't need them. All right, but what if French going like in basketball terms, like a 70 run.

[Parks]

I still got a bag over here.

[Joe Button]

Still got a bag, bro.

[Parks]

I don't need them Drake records now.

[Joe Button]

I'm giving you a Drake record. Sorry, nigga. I don't care if we beefing. You getting this fucking Aston Martin, whatever song that is.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

All right, now it's gonna turn it to the Drake section. Now French give you a Drake record.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Record.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Well, they're both.

[Parks]

Oh, no. French gonna give you some Drake records now. What's the Drake say?

[Joe Button]

Oh, he gonna lose that one. He ain't got that many Drake records.

[Parks]

He got a few.

[Joe Button]

He ain't got as many as Ross

[Parks]

Again, I don't think this need. This ain't the Drake. I don't think Ross plays. I don't. I don't think.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think you do too. I don't think he does and talk.

[Parks]

I definitely don't think he plays his records to me, that's.

[Joe Button]

What am I doing when this verse is. Is on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a Thursday.

[Parks]

Watching it.

[Joe Button]

All right. I'mma watch it.

[Parks]

I know.

[Joe Button]

I'mma watch it. What do you want me to do?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the night before the show. We got to watch it.

[Joe Button]

I'm. I'm going watch it.

[Parks]

I'm watching it till that. Till that album drop.

[Joe Button]

I got to check facts. I got to check the playoff schedule to know if I'm watching this.

[Parks]

You watch it, dog.

[Joe Button]

If it's a. If it's a Nick game on. No, I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry, but it might be.

[Parks]

Catch you later.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It might be in Philly, so you could. You don't have to. To, like, go.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I watched Nick game and put the battle on. On the speakers.

[Joe Button]

Whatever. I'll check it out. I'm not excited about it, though. Yeah, it's not my favorite, and I love both artists. Is this where I'm not ordering pizza and wings?

[Parks]

Facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who.

[Parks]

Who would we have liked to see?

[Joe Button]

Meek and Wale.

[Parks]

Meek and W. I'm saying versus Ross. Is there anybody else you took?

[Joe Button]

No, I didn't know. I didn't even ask for Ross again. They gave me Ross and 2 Chain.

[Parks]

I'm with School Going Ross.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is this where versus is headed? Where it's gonna be just more like promo battles as opposed to, like, what it was at the initial.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

But is it promo?

[Parks]

No, it's not promo. Yeah, the same problem depends on what people they get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm saying right now, what I mean is, like, Ross and Montana are friends. They're close. Like you said it's gonna be. It's like a money grab. They're promoting. I want an adversarial.

[Parks]

We just had Tank and Tyrese. We just had cash money and no limit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree. I'm asking. Asking. Are we running out of those? Are we about to move? They just.

[Parks]

They just brought. This is the third one that they brought back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, that's good.

[Parks]

We're early on. We're early. Whoever else they talking to, like, said

[Joe Button]

that Tank and Tyrese did crazy.

[Mona]

Yeah, that's what's up.

[Parks]

But.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Parks]

And then not just that. The controversy to follow. Yeah, I'm sure the Joe Biden podcast helping that.

[Mona]

That turtleneck.

[Parks]

But released A song. I think a lot of comes down to the money too. Because now it's not about the culture. We was in Covid. People was, damn, they're doing the shit. You know what I mean?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

For nothing. Now it's like, yo, my. This is a production with that bag looking like. Honestly, no, it's fire. But I'm just saying people were more inclined when during COVID to just do this off the strength and that. That was kind of my point when we brought up Meek and Wale before. I'm like, well, one's getting ready to go on tour. I don't have to do this verses for this back. The ones who need French nor Ross is hitting the road anytime soon on a tour. So for them, great, free money. We'll take this show. Free money, catalog increase, whatever, whatever. But for those who are actually got tours coming up, I don't. I'm not Chris Brown and Usher. Everybody been wanting to see it. But hey, we're popular enough that if we do this ourselves, we can tour this versus.

[Joe Button]

I think that's very misleading. Everybody ain't Chris Brown and Usher.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying.

[Parks]

That's not what I'm saying. I'm talking about the bag that I get from versus. Whereas if I have enough where I can go and hit the road and do a tour, 30 cities or whatever, I might not need to do the verses.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I feel like it would bring.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think. I think there's other ways that you win by doing verses. Even if. Even if I think verses is beneficial. Even if for the artists that sound

[Parks]

out, Tyrese and Tank, pardon me, are on tour.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Maybe not for Chris and Usher, because they're about to do a stage.

[Joe Button]

I'm not counting.

[Parks]

I'm not counting. No they date.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

But for Wiley or someone that's going out and doing a run, you're gonna bring more people to your show.

[Parks]

Most likely, if you have a good showing at the verses too. Because if you go to the verses and you lay an egg, that shit could affect your tour.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

But if I'm going on tour, I'm about to step it up at this verses.

[Joe Button]

And if Wale get up there and manhandle Meek, then his shit going through, it changes. It addresses his biggest enemy, which is false perspective. Perception. Yeah, it changes perception forever. But I'll leave that alone. I'll instigate that people go back to

[Cheyenne Bryant]

the album more that he just put out. That's great. You know, it would be beneficial.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I can't stop listening to that.

[Joe Button]

We on you boy, that is meek.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm riding. It's going. It's gonna be a good battle. I'll put my money on me.

[Joe Button]

We'll see. We just fucking freestyling right now. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? Versus we did is more music. What else happened in music?

[Parks]

You ain't hear that Chris Brown, Leon, Tom Thomas.

[Joe Button]

I did.

[Parks]

Thoughts, that's all I went to while he looked like. I saw the record was dropping. Album drops next week. Put a single out, Falling. And I waited for that and it delivered.

[Mona]

On my knees and my heart's on the ground Hearts on the ground I'd

[Parks]

wait a long time

[Mona]

Cross that road for you girl I would have gone

[Parks]

through the fire Almost lost my soul

[Mona]

New Joe Biden.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

New.

[Mona]

Somehow girl, you wake me up maybe we ain't making love oh, I just need a taste of your love I can't believe.

[Joe Button]

First thoughts. First thoughts.

[Parks]

First thoughts.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

This is great.

[Parks]

Don't miss.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Love it.

[Joe Button]

I gotta let Leon eat.

[Mona]

Of course.

[Joe Button]

Gotta let Leon eat for a little bit. Shout out to Chris. Shout out to Leon Thomas.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm still fighting for you hey, all right.

[Mona]

You know I got for you, baby Fell in love when you land here didn't even know you had wings. Fix the damage at the basket. Plugged it up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I never had God Damn Tank on the background vocals.

[Joe Button]

Of course.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Naturally.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I love the. I love a three, four, bop the time.

[Parks]

Yeah, whatever.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

One, two, three. One, two, three. That's most.

[Joe Button]

One, two. That you play. Drums.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Three beats to a measure note gets the beat.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that vibe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's actually my favorite pattern.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I wish people use it more. Anyway, it sounds great.

[Joe Button]

I love the song. I just don't know if I love it right now.

[Mona]

I don't like it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's like the fourth single or something, ain't it?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, fourth. I think so.

[Parks]

Holy Blonde.

[Joe Button]

It depends. It depends. Obvious.

[Parks]

And now it is.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. So. Well, it's time to give some. Some.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Some depth, you know what I mean? So it's not just the pop. Poppier records, it's four single vibe. And who better to get than. Than le off?

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the other thing that's bothering me. It's. It's definitely. Sounds like a Leon Thomas record.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

For sure.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I don't know. You don't with it?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I love it.

[Joe Button]

No, I love it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's a vintage, vintage vibe.

[Parks]

I love it. That's what I like. Yeah, that's what I like. The nostalgia. I got the Old bluesy sound. That nostalgic sometimes.

[Joe Button]

It could be. Right song, wrong artists.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It can. I don't.

[Joe Button]

The right artist and wrong song. I'm not saying that here. Yeah. But this coming from Chris just kind of threw me forward.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I would love to hear Chris in this mature bag a little bit more.

[Parks]

It's track five on the album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

And I'm shutting up. We getting 27 tracks on the album.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Andy giving you the arm. The classic R B pose.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. That got. That has me excited. I like the song. I like the song. I like the fact that it's four minutes long. I like the progression in it. I love the arrangement. It's different. Yeah, it's different. And. And I think Chris probably needed to show people that he could do different. People were accusing him of making the same song or whatever.

[Parks]

Well, that's the people. They wasn't listening.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Cause every time that conversation come up. Oh, he makes the same record. I just asked. All right, we'll just take whatever album had just dropped. Tell me the songs. But that's the problem. People don't really be listening to the album. They just be knowing the radio songs. That's what I said. If you're not familiar, I get it. You don't know what you're talking about.

[Joe Button]

I'm so glad that this Chris album is coming, and then the Drake album is coming. Boy, I also bought a whole another Kaylani album this week.

[Parks]

Yeah, I bought it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Wait, what was it?

[Joe Button]

The uncut edition.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

What is it?

[Parks]

Kalani album, uncut.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

What's that mean?

[Parks]

So it has. Let me see how many extra songs on there.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, it's just extra songs.

[Parks]

Well, it's.

[Joe Button]

It's demos.

[Parks]

It's. There's an unfolded version of I need you.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay.

[Parks]

Then it has the demo to Sweet nothing. I need you still lights on. On cruise control. Acapella I need you Acapella. Ooh, acapella. Unlearn acapella and still acapella.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay, I'm probably not going to get that because I still love just the regular album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Same.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Maybe I'll add the songs that are songs. I don't need the acapellas, though, particularly. But salute.

[Joe Button]

This is the unfolded version of I need you, which is one of my favorite songs on Kenny's project.

[Parks]

Project.

[Joe Button]

They also put the demo of I need you, that's without Brandy, with Kehlani on the second verse. You get the point.

[Parks]

That's dope.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Currency whiz and Harry Fraud drops tape. Ruthless Records for Drop Tops do too, which was really great. If you're into that vibe, Isaiah, Rashad, Drop. I don't know if anybody else listen.

[Parks]

Yeah, I saw it drop. I didn't get to listen to it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He's got some on here. He's got some on. He does so much different vocally that it's kind of like a lot to digest. Pause if necessary. This record right here, Cameras with Dominic F. Is. This is tough.

[Parks]

I won't lie to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The boys going holly with the blue

[Joe Button]

and red lights in the morning they

[Mona]

got in this still popping at the rubber band Proud of you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't never going back do you follow me?

[Mona]

I thought it was something obvious, you know I got a bag in a lot of you I never knew my camera to chronicle I cause you up would not be anonymous if we could ride like we did before we could ride come like we did before we could ride. Time camera, come over. Come over.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's Cameras. The album is called. It's Been Awful. There's a scissor record on here. I enjoy it, but it's a lot to digest. Like I said, he does so many different things. Sometimes he's singing, sometimes he's rapping. Sometimes he's got some weird effects on his vocals.

[Parks]

He's dope, though, so check it out anyway.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Button]

We had a new dream.

[Guest Speaker]

Oh, for real.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

An album? No, a single.

[Parks]

Single.

[Joe Button]

Single. Bring. Bring that body.

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Does just feel good to hear Dream

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I feel like it's been a thousand years.

[Mona]

Oh, yeah. Lay your head right here. Right here. Oh, yeah. Real quick. Ty didn't love you Tell me what a kiss it Tell me how to fix it Call you hating buddy A doggy ain't loving you that ain't right

[Parks]

Trying to bring that body over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You get the point?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's not like vintage. Vintage Dream.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for sure.

[Parks]

That too.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Felt good.

[Parks]

It was interesting because. Is he working on a new album or something?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Sounds like. Yeah.

[Parks]

No, because I see he's out.

[Joe Button]

They love Hate, too.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

The.

[Parks]

The festival that Pusha T does every year. Cousins in va. They got the dream on there. And it's like a special set by the Dream. I'm like.

[Mona]

Like.

[Parks]

He don't usually perform. You don't see him. One of them enigma types.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's all I got in new music, you guys.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It was a quiet week. A relatively quiet week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody stand out?

[Joe Button]

The way I see the club jumping right now. Yeah, right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything felt good, but, you know, all the big hitters are gonna come out

[Cheyenne Bryant]

in the next two weeks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody else is staying out the way.

[Parks]

All of them. Drake and Chris.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drake and Chris Brown come out in the next two weeks. Ain't nobody doing shit right now.

[Joe Button]

And the Givion Deluxe is May 15, too.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, from the album from last year.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, I'm excited about that. All right, it's time for my favorite part of the show, Prize picks. All right, the regular season is wrapped up in the NBA playoffs are finally here. Go Knicks, by the way. And there's no better way to cash in on the high flying hoops action than prize pick a preferred partner of the NBA. Every bucket, every dime and every win means more when you're playing on prize picks. So don't pass up your next shot to win with prize picks and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. Also, you can pick live squares during the NBA playoffs and you could win a trip for two to the NBA Finals. To enter, just make a $5 lineup with at least one live NBA player pick during any part of the 2026 NBA playoffs. Live player picks are picks made after a game is already in progress. So check out prize picks social pages for more info on that. Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line and pick more or less for your chance to win big. All right, I'm gonna give you Ish picks. Even though he hadn't hit in months, he ain't hitting ages. But if y' all want like a loser too ticket, Here we go. Ish is going with Paul George for more than 15 1/2 points. If the Sixers got a chance, that should be a good one. Pritchard for more than four and a half field goals. Made that sound like a good one.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, that should be good.

[Joe Button]

Joel Embiid for more than six defensive rebounds. That should be a good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm scared of.

[Joe Button]

Now you could do that. He'd be hitting miss on the boarder, the center for the black center on the Celtics for more than five defensive rebounds. And Baylor Shearman. I think that's big shot Bob. Baylor Sheeran has to be white boy with the mullet. Oh yeah. For more than five and a half points, rebounds and assists. Don't forget, download prize picks right this very second and use promo code JB to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on prize picks, the official partner of the NBA.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want y' all to get some hockey in Here for the next round, too, Phil. If the Flyers are in the next round, and I think they're going to be very profitable for y', all, man.

[Joe Button]

That's peace.

[Parks]

You just Philly down, huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look, as long as we winning, I'm right.

[Parks]

I know that's right. Sorry for you,

[Joe Button]

Mona, when you smoke, like, do you wrap your shirt around the blunt?

[Mona]

The last time. The last time he tried this, right?

[Joe Button]

I'm just asking.

[Mona]

You're not supposed to, like, share certain stuff. I chumped them last time. I was like, what? Don't play with me like that, boy. Crack me. Because he sat down like, oh, you smell like and crack. Mix, crack mixed. This bitch is so poor, she smokes

[Parks]

crack and blacks and wax.

[Mona]

I'm like, cut that out. So he couldn't wait to get this whole I stink off. You know, them go out there smoke blunts, they smell funny. I don't say nothing. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Well, I think you smell great. Take that. Huh? Take that. How's that for some support? Come on. Do y' all want to racially profile?

[Mona]

You know, it's like my favorite game.

[Joe Button]

Let's do it. Ish. Come on. You know you are racial. You know you are racial profile.

[Parks]

You're the ones that profit profile our racial profile.

[Joe Button]

Okay, well, I mean, well, this story starts with you.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It does.

[Parks]

No, it started with what happened. So last night, I'm scrambling to get back to the jvp, which I, you know, love so much.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Sure.

[Parks]

So I was in D.C. we don't record on Thursday. This nigga just fucks my story up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

See?

[Parks]

So I'm in D.C. i booked a flight. I booked the wrong flight. But that's neither here nor there. I call a Uber.

[Joe Button]

Hey, slow down. Yo, Please slow down. Down. When can we jump in?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at the goat.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, where did you go to?

[Parks]

I booked a flight from D.C. to Newark.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Parks]

Mistakenly, I booked a flight From Newark to D.C. so I get to the airport like, an hour and a half early. I booked a 9:35 flight. There is no 9:35 flight. That was from Newark to Dulles. Yeah, I'm. I'm scrambling.

[Joe Button]

So could these lines be working?

[Parks]

What are you talking about? When you go home, bro, I just had to get on an hour later flight. I know, but so anyway, anywho, I call an Uber. The Uber. I call an uber early. Like 8, 8:15. So I could be at the airport early, right? Boom. Dude pulls up, Red flag number one. The nigga had a big ass Dent in the side of his white minivan. I don't want to be Be that guy. Right?

[Joe Button]

Cool yourself.

[Parks]

I get in, I look, he got stove guy playing. My man is loud as I know

[Mark Lamont Hill]

the whole album now, right?

[Parks]

He was the boom bap cabbie.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Sounds like a great cab. So look, minus the debt.

[Parks]

I get in, the Knicks game is on. I'm like, oh, they down by 50. So he's like, word, Dan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's crazy.

[Parks]

D D D We talk for, like two minutes. I think because I had a dialogue with him, he thought that I was okay to just blast his music at 90.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Parks]

Young black dude.

[Joe Button]

Get in.

[Parks]

All right, we driving. We going to Dulles, which is kind of far. It's like 45 minutes.

[Joe Button]

You don't hit the preferences on Uber?

[Parks]

No, I didn't even know you could do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had racial preference.

[Mona]

No blacks.

[Joe Button]

They have a noise preference.

[Parks]

I did not know that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tomato, tomato.

[Mona]

This funny, bro. So listen, real comedian.

[Parks]

I promise you, fam, this was going 90 in the school zone in the minivan. Trying to get you the airport on time, bro. He's wild. He calls his son. He talking to his son about a pit bull.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

I'm gonna that dog up when I get home. Yo, did you eat? You want me bring you something? What you want? Popeyes? Kfc? What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

The son says, no, I want orange chicken. He like, yo, my, you being boo bougie. I don't need to hear your kids dinner preferences. My at 8, 30 at nighttime. Yo, we driving. He's doing literally, like, 80.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That sounds a little more like a lift. I'm gonna keep it real. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you.

[Parks]

I don't even got lift. But he's doing like 80. He missed the exit twice. The third time he go to miss the exit, the niggas in the far left lane that does the hand.

[Joe Button]

Yo, he sound like a door dude.

[Mona]

He sounds pretty effective.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, the Jersey SL slide.

[Parks]

That's what you call it.

[Mona]

I'm trying to get there on time.

[Parks]

I almost slid to New Jersey out the door.

[Mona]

Y.

[Parks]

He's like, yo, I'm sorry, sir. I'm sorry I missed the exit. GPS says you'll be there 15 minutes.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

He called you, sir.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm tight in the back. What you. I'm trying to get a nap. This got Stove God playing. I sleep through that, but I can't sleep through the swerving. Yo, we get to the airport, he's like, sir, again, I apologize so much. Blah, blah, blah, Blah. I just get out. Yo, dawg, I come here and I tell my friends about the story, and they get into their racial bag. I didn't even get the correlation. You gave a lot of clues. Stole God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Were we supposed to think he wasn't black?

[Parks]

They asked me what was he? And I said black.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, they meant, like, what shade of black.

[Mona]

They knew he was black.

[Parks]

Knew. Y' all don't take black Uber drivers. No, I go hold you speak. It's your pod. Joe, when you.

[Joe Button]

I didn't say.

[Parks]

No, I didn't. I said. I said to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To you.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna say nothing because it's racist. What I have to say is racist.

[Parks]

But we all.

[Mona]

So y' all see black faces like your own and say another driver.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They can have my. It depend on what they need.

[Joe Button]

Cancel. Cancel.

[Mona]

Well, first Corey from the side said cancel.

[Joe Button]

I feel like Ubers is when you can profile. I feel like I do it to us.

[Parks]

Remember that day we was leaving Park's crib and a pulled. We was catching the Uber back.

[Joe Button]

Oh, he died.

[Parks]

Dubbed us soon as he saw us. What happened,

[Joe Button]

bro?

[Mona]

First of all, when. When Uber and all that just came out because I don't think Uber and Lyft is that much of a difference. So y' all saying that Uber is better than Lyft?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

A lot of times

[Mona]

when that is cheaper.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I use lift a lot.

[Mona]

Lift is cheaper.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You got to do the nicer car.

[Mona]

That's what it. That's what it really is. It's the nicer car. Like. And that's what I was going to ask y'. All do y' all pick the nicer car?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because you got to pick xl at

[Mona]

least when those comfort first came out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, comfort.

[Mona]

I remember trying to drive from them places, and I had like, okay cars. They weren't like hoopty hoopties. And you could. They wouldn't accept it. Now, niggas pull up with this used to couldn't. They wouldn't clear you if you had a dent.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They still don't. This is what it is.

[Parks]

They might not know he got a dent or he lied about which car he transported.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They do two things. They either lie about the car or they put that it's a bike.

[Parks]

Yep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So if you ever see somebody delivering some shit on a bike.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how they get around the car. Shit, my brother, before he got locked up, he used to drive. Drive Lyft because they wouldn't. His car was too old for Uber. That's the other reason why Lyft is worse because you get people who don't have new enough cars to be able to drive Uber. Which means you're gonna get the kind of guy you got.

[Joe Button]

You hit.

[Parks]

It was Uber xl I think.

[Mona]

Do you get. Do you pick the better car, the more expensive ride?

[Joe Button]

Picked XL and got a white minivan. It depend on.

[Parks]

It depend on how close they are to be honest with you. I'd be on some time. I don't really be on no, I'll be by myself.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm not gonna lie. I got picked up the other day. It was the wrong car and a different license plate. I was like, I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I feel like about this that's how you duct taped in.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Somebody set you up. We was only going two blocks away. So I was like it and it was a couple of us. So I was like some of the

[Mona]

worst Uber rides I used to post them. They so bad. Like I always give yo this.

[Parks]

I'm not going to lie. He was different bro. I. I don't even be on no picky. He was just different. It. This was just a bad experience. I rated that zero. They ain't even have enough. You can only pick so many negative options.

[Joe Button]

The thing she just turned gray.

[Parks]

I was like oh, did tip him.

[Joe Button]

What you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got to go back and undo the tip cuz the tip is damn

[Parks]

automatic tip that nothing you out your mind. Ain't no tip automatic.

[Mona]

No, the tip is included in the first price, ain't it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got to undo it. Oh no.

[Parks]

Tip is at the end. It's at the end.

[Joe Button]

I heard, I heard some AI, some AI dude on the Internet the other day. Some AI wealthy dude saying cuz one of them pages to teach you how to be wealthy and it was a girl and she was saying that we've been tipping wrong this entire time. If you tip after the meal. Huh?

[Parks]

Elaborate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Say more

[Joe Button]

now I want to find it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

No, they're probably talking about after tax.

[Parks]

No, they talk about tip them before the meal to make sure you I got a job, good service.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

How the you going to know what the. What the. What's the.

[Mona]

And he said AI. So this is AI. AI fake person.

[Parks]

No, he's saying that the lady got rich in AI.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm saying this is AI.

[Parks]

I thought you said so someone that's

[Cheyenne Bryant]

never been in the real world.

[Joe Button]

I just thought it was such an interesting concept that I'm sure I saved

[Cheyenne Bryant]

is an interesting this every week.

[Mona]

I know I saved it.

[Parks]

Somebody must have went in my phone and unsaved it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

No.

[Joe Button]

You forgot N. Saving a bunch of that, though.

[Mona]

What if I'm saving it?

[Parks]

Like just anything I find interesting, I'll just save.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Believe that and never go back and watch it.

[Mona]

Anything. Word. I don't.

[Joe Button]

The lady was saying. And I'll try to remember that if you're tipping after the service, then you've gotten nothing for your dollar as opposed to tipping prior to. Then you've basically hired a worker, advised

[Parks]

them to do more.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, and I just googled, I can't find any. Tipping after a meal is generally considered the standard tradition, traditional approach to reward service already already rendered rather than backwards. However, some diners now opt to tip beforehand as a positioning strategy to guarantee faster service, better attention and higher quality from the start. Viewing traditional tipping as simply reacting at the end.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

See, that's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought that was interesting.

[Parks]

What do you guys think about.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's tricky.

[Parks]

That's a modern.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Because if the person's a bad server.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It don't matter if you. If you tip them a billion dollars at the beginning or $1, there's still gonna be a bad service.

[Parks]

See, I think. I think that I shouldn't have to incentivize you to do your job well.

[Joe Button]

Oh, all right. We live in theory, of course.

[Parks]

No, you stand with this. We just had this argument in a different facet last week with the Scottie Pippen shit. Like, fam. Like, if. If I have to incentivize you to do your job, you shouldn't be doing this job. I think customer service, if you work in a customer service environment, I think customer service, good customer service, is the bare minimum. Now, if you go above and beyond, then that's something I think that should be handled accordingly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the tip. You're not saying you have to go above, beyond, and get a tip. You're saying special tips. Yeah.

[Parks]

Like if you go above. But I think if you just come to work and your job is to deliver a certain level of service or care, that should be the bare minimum.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yes.

[Parks]

Now, again, everybody don't go above and beyond. And so I think when you go above and beyond, your tips should be commanded. Mentor it with that. But I don't think that I should have to incentivize you work.

[Joe Button]

You have to know.

[Mona]

Do you know how much servers make?

[Parks]

No, no. Below minimum wage, $3. No, it's a certain minimum.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It depends on what state.

[Parks]

Three, four dollars an hour, sometimes way below.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Depends on the state.

[Mona]

And I feel like in my experience, it's not even. It's almost like the way that you tip. Some people tip. It's almost like they. It's almost like I'm taking a T test so I can get a discount. Like, is looking for, like, grading you in that way. Oh, you didn't fill my water. Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

They don't want.

[Mona]

Because you didn't want to tip in the beginning.

[Parks]

That's what I think this is for Standard.

[Mona]

You should just tip. And I feel like that tipping in the beginning, in. In my mind, I think I would probably still do it twice. So it probably will cost me more because I'm gonna do in the beginning for you to do that. But then I appreciate how well you did, and I'm gonna hit you again. So it's just leaving. And I tip high. I tip.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can I. I wanna. I wanna add a racial. I don't usually do this, but I wanna add into the conversation. I think for black people, this might be an effective strategy. Because a lot of times we get. In my experience, we get bad service because there's an expectation that we're not gonna tip. And a lot of. Cause even when I worked in the restaurants, that was the thing. They would give shittier service to people at certain tables. Cause they're like. They're not gonna tip. No way. So now if I've almost prepaid for my tip, maybe now I'll get treated decent. I'm not saying that's okay. Okay. But as a strategy, I can see how it would be more effective.

[Parks]

That's what I was saying. When I'm saying this is a modern thing is. I think it's just to flip around and not tipping.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

It's a way around it. That's all. It's just a way to address it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you're right.

[Mona]

When I worked at a restaurant and I was the hostess, the waitress will argue over the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What kind of restaurant was. I'm just curious.

[Mona]

Off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I was.

[Mona]

I've worked at a lot of restaurants. I worked at Denny's, ihop, Olive Garden, all those places. But no, the way the service would, like, argue over taking the black people. That's how much people didn't want black tables. So that makes total sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's why. That's what kind of restaurants. Because I worked at TJ Fridays, and it was the same kind of level of, like, my people used to work.

[Mona]

Like, it's just bl. In those restaurants, people. We fight. People fight over getting the black people, which is crazy.

[Parks]

They call, yo, my home girl worked there Fridays. They used to call them Canadians like that was the word for black people. Like, oh, it's a. A table of Canadians and they wouldn't want to take table. But I. I think it's me personally, I think if you start working at customer service. I don't care if you work at Banana Republic, you're supposed to give customer service.

[Mona]

Okay, I agree.

[Joe Button]

All right. It's just time for you to come on and join us on. On the David is guilty side. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What happen?

[Mona]

He'll never.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Everything a lot. Yeah.

[Parks]

New right.

[Mona]

He'll never.

[Joe Button]

They got him, my brother. They p. I know that you wanted to enroll him for the Innocence Project.

[Parks]

I did two weeks ago.

[Joe Button]

Know that it was innocent till proven,

[Cheyenne Bryant]

but that they got him buying chainsaws. I don't want to say what he did with the chainsaws, cuz it's disturbing.

[Parks]

But the inflatable pool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, and that's after the child porn.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, that was on its own.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Terabytes of child por.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but the chainsaw and inflatable pool.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, it's a lot Trigger warning and rest in peace to Celeste.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace to her. This story gets worse and worse. Every. Every new detail that you here. They got the. They got the. They have the Uber dropping her off on April 24 to his house.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My God.

[Joe Button]

And they have. And they have him sending text messages 20 minutes after she arrived to her phone saying, hey, where are you? Are you still coming? Looking like he's setting up his alibi.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, he bought her a phone and it's a bunch of. He's a fucking monster.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah. He bought her a phone. Cause the parents took the phone and said, you can't talk to him no more. So he bought another phone for her.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Had a friend deliver it or something.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, this guy's done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's the only thing. And I don't have any sympathy for him, to be clear. I just. This is such a terrible, like such a terrible crime plan. I'm like, is he not well? Like I'm trying to figure out, like,

[Joe Button]

no, he's not well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just trying to figure out like, this is just so bad of a crime. I'm like, I've just never seen anybody be this bad at crime. You know what I mean? Where like every single. I mean he's telegraphing every single thing. Every Googling chainsaws, buying stuff, the pool, the porn, the tattoo. I mean, he did such a bad job covering this up. I'm like, is somebody else involved? Is he. Did he just go on a mental, like, I Just can't make sense of how he could be so bad.

[Mona]

Maybe the stardom thing went to his head and he thought he could get away with stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not that famous.

[Mona]

Well, he might have. That don't mean you don't feel like. Especially when you get that social media. Social media thing. You bagging kids off of social media, you probably. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

And then they got the text that. That she sent him, like, kind of waking up from some of the manipulation where she's like, listen, all we do is have sex. Like, I'm. I don't want to do that anymore. Like, they got all of those texts, these guys. What are you saying?

[Parks]

And now they reported that the. The death certificate has been updated.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Because they cannot clearly determine if she was pregnant or not in the year before she passed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My Lord, My Lord, again, salute.

[Joe Button]

And the cause of death has been updated as well. I should say like two homicide.

[Parks]

What was it before?

[Joe Button]

I don't know.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They couldn't determine or something. Maybe

[Parks]

she got found in somebody's trunk. Yeah, but they. She didn't voluntarily get into my trunk and lock the door. Yeah, so I don't understand how it was ruled anything other than a homicide from the real.

[Joe Button]

Well, it was. Oh, and I'm not looking it up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean. I mean, in theory, somebody. Something could have happened elsewhere and the body was relocated, which is. Which is sometimes what happens, which is

[Parks]

why one of his charges was also the body or something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, there's. There's so many layers. I said salute. I meant to say sort of like I was trying to send love to her family. Because as these details come out, you get re. Traumatized. You know, Every detail about this dude would make me want to go find him and kill him if I was one of our family members. Like, I can't even imagine what they.

[Parks]

What a hurt just keeps going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's done, though. He's done.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And sign the petition. Get that off the streaming man that I already saw. They took. They refunded Fortnite skins that were associated with him or something like that. It's. It's happening.

[Joe Button]

They're.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They're going to start pulling this out of everything good.

[Parks]

Yeah, Him.

[Joe Button]

You worry gonna lie, David. And again. Rest in peace, Celeste. All this femicide is a. Is a big deal. I gotta go to Ashley funeral next week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How are you mentally preparing for that?

[Joe Button]

I'm all right. I made. I made peace. I'm cool with it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I'm cool.

[Parks]

It's Tuesday, right?

[Joe Button]

My Faith is in. The funeral is Tuesday. Was Tuesday. I'm going to wait.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got you. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I can't.

[Joe Button]

I don't really. My faith is in a higher power always. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever his plan is is what the plan is. I'm going go pay my respects. But I made. I've made peace with what happened. Hopefully. Hopefully there's some justice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's going be my question.

[Mona]

Black women aren't safe.

[Joe Button]

The family hasn't gotten the toxicology from over there.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, really?

[Joe Button]

They did their own. They did their own.

[Parks]

Oh, was weeks ago.

[Joe Button]

What else over there still has her belongings. I know the story going around is that they shipped her back and she didn't have her engagement, but she didn't have any of her belongings. So they don't have her phone yet. They don't have. They don't have anything yet.

[Parks]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

So we shall see.

[Parks]

And my man got a couple dollars.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm worried about.

[Parks]

Yeah, but see, money and some of them third World, I don't. I ain't want to be funny, but money go a long, long way in a bunch of those countries. And if you got enough, this pass around will start tampering with some or covering up some.

[Joe Button]

You do that here.

[Parks]

Yeah. But over there just, you know, easy money just stretches.

[Joe Button]

I'm praying for justice. I'm praying for justice. That's. That's rest in peace, Ashley Celeste. Rest in peace. I love you. What else we got? What else we got?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm trying to move to something like, and I'm assuming this is Joe's topic, not just cause of the handwriting, but because it's Jet Ski rules.

[Joe Button]

Fuck you, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Am I right?

[Parks]

I thought it was Datsun.

[Joe Button]

No, really. I saw Maino was somewhere having a good old time on a Jet Ski.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

He posted it on Instagram. He said, living love, live life, laughter, whatever the fuck he said. And in every slide, his legs was in the air. On the Jet Jet Ski, he had

[Parks]

his legs over the handlebars, over the

[Joe Button]

handlebars, in the air, separated like this like ish move. Once big Sasha come around. That's how Mayno was looking on the Jet Ski. Which made me want to ask a group full of guys, like, what are the Jet Ski rules? If you a dude, can you do that?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You should be driving with your legs in the proper position.

[Mona]

You shouldn't be barefoot. You got to have on war.

[Parks]

You never rode a bmx and you be trying to do tricks and shit.

[Joe Button]

No, I was a clumsy kid growing up. I didn't get on a bike and

[Cheyenne Bryant]

try to kid, right?

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, I'm still clumsy. Duh.

[Parks]

But, I mean, I don't know. Out there having fun. My trying to do some fun.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Have you ever rode shotgun on a Jet Ski?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was my next question, though.

[Joe Button]

What is that?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Like, if someone else is driving and

[Joe Button]

you're near like this?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This like this?

[Joe Button]

Yo, yo, y' all cool.

[Parks]

I got a penis, bro.

[Joe Button]

Are y' all okay?

[Parks]

I have a penis.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go act like y' all never rode shotgun or nothing. Y' all never was on a bicycle in the back?

[Parks]

Yeah, of course. Standing on the pegs. Yeah.

[Mona]

But a Jet Ski is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was setting y' all up. No, you stand. You can stand.

[Joe Button]

They so slow.

[Parks]

Stand on the pants.

[Joe Button]

Wait, y' all did that? Y' all did that on a bike?

[Parks]

No, you stand on the pen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Parks]

Everybody in here is lying if they

[Mona]

say niggas, bro, stop.

[Joe Button]

What kind of bike you talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Motors.

[Joe Button]

What Type of bike?

[Mona]

8th grade bike. Yeah.

[Parks]

You never rode on the bike?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

8th grade is too late to be standing the pigs.

[Parks]

You never rode on nobody bike.

[Mona]

Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I took their bike. Not, like, sold. I mean, I got borrowed people bikes

[Parks]

sitting on the handlebars.

[Joe Button]

This little up here, like this.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Sit in the basket.

[Joe Button]

What's that? Damon way. What's that? Movie mark Definitely in them same gym jeans. You talk.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I definitely rode shotgun on the Jet Ski when my girl wanted to drive for a minute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, but your girl is fine.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I think so.

[Parks]

You trust her driving on the water?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It was a short trip. She just wanted to truck.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean? You didn't answer the question.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I did read between the lines.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He answered.

[Joe Button]

He answered, my man. Y' all girls not a drive. No.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

A car.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

She gonna kick my ass. No. Now, she could drive, but no. And my girl drive fat like. My girl drive like a man. Like, fast like a dude. I don't like that.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

If you're both in the car. Do you usually drive, though?

[Joe Button]

That's privilege.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yes. I joke with her, I'll be like, yo, you want to drive? She going right to the passenger seat.

[Mona]

No, I think women drive faster than men. Women drive crazier because women drive more reckless than men. Like, we don't count. Like hitting curves.

[Parks]

You ain't seen this in the car?

[Mona]

I'm not saying. Of course.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The exception should have been tires since January.

[Mona]

Yeah, for the most part. Like, replace tires a lot.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And, yeah, back to profiling the Uber drivers. Sometimes when it's a female driver, I might Skip that one. I've been. I've been in some scary female Ubers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, that I don't do.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I had a chick almost go right through the little drawbridge. I was like, all right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. See, I. I don't. I haven't. I've noticed. Notice more racial differences than gender differences. I'm not saying any of us care to expound what you say.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Care to expound.

[Joe Button]

Say more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think. I think I've said enough. I have literally never said any of that.

[Mona]

Y' all are horrible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, but dudes can't do nothing no more, man. I was watching Jim Jones eat that banana.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which sounds crazy funny. Did you see this?

[Parks]

I saw it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's like. And I know he was having fun with it and I thought it was hilarious, but it's like dead ass. Like, you can't be in public eating a banana. You can't put your legs up on a jet ski.

[Parks]

You can't eat a banana. Banana, bro. You can't even enjoy faking like it was dice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But here's the thing that's not less pausy.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Taking a banana and doing this to it.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

And the thing I want to know from the dudes that are self conscious about how they eat a banana is how do they eat a grape?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Like this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta slice and dice the dog. You keep different.

[Mona]

Girl. People can't even eat hot dogs at barbecues. Like, literally don't touch hot dogs. Of course, it's exceptions to the rules.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, no. I eat hot dog anywhere at a

[Mona]

game and all in front of cameras. Rappers. You don't give a. I don't give a double hand.

[Joe Button]

That's a lot. That's a lot.

[Mona]

You enjoy it, though. You sauce it up.

[Parks]

Relish, mustard, and a grape. You just throw the grape like you got throw way back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So you're only. So you're only self conscious because it's shaped like a penis. Not anything that's shaped like balls.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not the same.

[Joe Button]

It's the.

[Parks]

It's the motion that you have to eat the banana. Okay. If you. The only way to eat a banana is you got to break it and put it in my por.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't eat balls. But like, the. The motion of eating a banana is too simple. That.

[Joe Button]

Do that with the banana. You trying too hard to not be gay. You gay. You gay. If you try too hard to not be good.

[Mona]

Agreed.

[Parks]

Yo, you know what me up. No, you know what me up with Jim the took the banana in the beginning and just broke it in half.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said that was hilarious.

[Mona]

That's how most of the people do. They break the pieces.

[Parks]

No, he broke the banana skin on it like this.

[Joe Button]

That's like you eating orange pills in the club.

[Parks]

No, it's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How do you eat the orange pills?

[Mona]

He eat orange pills?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, in the club.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In the club.

[Joe Button]

In a club, he don't drink.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's not a joke. He don't drink.

[Joe Button]

So he goes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And when he hollers at the women, he slowly opens up a orange peel and eats it.

[Parks]

Like when I holler at them.

[Mona]

Don't never look me in my eye and do like that again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry. I was being.

[Mona]

Is okay. That was.

[Parks]

You was being is how you do it. I don't holl at women in the club. Open up. Show how you doing.

[Mona]

Wow.

[Parks]

You know they got the orange strips that they slice up and put on the edge of your drink. I'll just get a cup of them and eat them.

[Mona]

And eat them.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

It's why I like fruit. What the.

[Mona]

Like, yo, when you eating bar fruit, they little as they for cups.

[Parks]

No, they oranges. They slice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They give them a whole cup of them.

[Joe Button]

Yo, can I just tell you, Please help. That the bartender that night was livid at him.

[Mona]

No, because she needs some shit.

[Parks]

Joe's lying.

[Joe Button]

If I call her, she was livid at him. She needed the oranges that he's fucking barfing down. This nigga just ate some cherries.

[Mona]

This nigga just ate two cups of cherries.

[Parks]

He talking about, when I get to the club, we'll slice up an orange and give it to you.

[Mona]

Do you eat Marciano cherries, too, in the club?

[Parks]

No.

[Mona]

It's crazy.

[Joe Button]

So if you double back for more orange pills, would that make somebody angry? You think I don't do all that?

[Mona]

The first batch pisses them off. Ish. They need them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a night of orange peels.

[Joe Button]

I'm not gonna call it. Don't worry about it. Listen, I'm telling you. Drewski is hosting the BET Awards round of applause. Let's go, let's go, let's go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Good sh.

[Joe Button]

The Drewski. Congratulations. This is a real big deal.

[Parks]

I think he's gonna kill.

[Joe Button]

I think he's gonna kill it, too. Here's the commercial.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Your host for the BET Awards 2026.

[Parks]

I told BET if I'm hosting, we gonna do this my way. Rule number one, Jamie Foxx, take that big ass hat off. Rule number two, sexy red, no leggings, rompers, bodysuits. We don't need no wrestlers.

[Guest Speaker]

No.

[Parks]

No wrestlers on the red carpet. Black suit. And top rule number three.

[Joe Button]

Watch ends.

[Parks]

Take the ski mask off, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop. Stop it.

[Parks]

Rule number four, Mega pastors. Listen, I know y' all on my back right now. I've been getting the DMS and the threats. Just leave it up to God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Leave it up to God.

[Parks]

We going to lock them doors and can't nobody get up. Welcome to the 2026 BET Awards.

[Joe Button]

This is such a great move.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, this is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is brilliant.

[Joe Button]

Great move.

[Parks]

Perfect. Perfect person.

[Joe Button]

Who was doing it before Trevor, Noah or Fat Joe? One of them.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Fat Joe did it.

[Joe Button]

Fat Joe did it for like seven years or some. Like enough.

[Parks]

And I think with his. His new cachet, they gonna bring some more eyes over there because niggas gonna

[Joe Button]

see what he want to do. Yeah.

[Parks]

So I think it was good business on their behalf.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And he's funny. Yeah, no, he's funny. He's out the box. So you never know what character he gonna bring up. Or Emmy when he come out there. Like his opening shit might be mad.

[Joe Button]

Well, congratulations to Drew Ski. I'll be watching. Great. Great way to get me to tune in. Pros turned himself in Pros turned himself into the Federal Correction Institution in Safford, Arizona, where he will begin a 14 year sentence following his 2023 conviction on charges including money laundering, illegal lobbying, and campaign finance violence.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I believe he's still fighting that case, though. It's gonna take a while.

[Joe Button]

He appealed.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I believe so. Yeah. I believe so.

[Mona]

Free prize. Yeah, until it's backwards.

[Parks]

Some charges just sound like a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wasn't trying to say it that way, but no. Sound white and they don't go to jail. That was. That was my point.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's definitely one of them things where everybody does it.

[Joe Button]

Hey.

[Parks]

Hey. What you doing over here? Playing in this game? Game? No, lock them up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. 14 years.

[Parks]

Also a long time.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Long time.

[Parks]

When you 50?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That part, too.

[Parks]

He got to be close to our age.

[Joe Button]

Your age.

[Parks]

You close to my age.

[Mona]

And that's a federal crime.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Trying to R us. Yeah. I'm 45. I got a couple years still in my prime. I ain't going straight. I ain't going straight home tonight. That's that 50 year old. I'm still hitting the baddy.

[Mona]

Ah.

[Parks]

Where we at?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, what's up? Say something. Get in trouble?

[Mona]

Excuse me, fellas.

[Parks]

You don't want to say you hitting the baddies?

[Mona]

Y' all are five years apart.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mona]

So technically. This your og?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, can't you tell?

[Parks]

He three?

[Joe Button]

Yes. And he's going down. Y' all up here talking about this free this. He's going down. He's out of here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said before Prize went to prison, he spent most of the time with his family. They said he doesn't really go out. He's vegan. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke more. And I definitely want your take on this because you've talked about doing. No, there's no joke coming. I was just curious, if you knew you were about to do a 14 year stretch, what would y' all do?

[Parks]

Get in shape?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause I wouldn't do that is all I'm saying. I wouldn't be staying home with my family before a 14 year bid.

[Mona]

You going on a coke run.

[Parks]

Fuck. You definitely gotta stay at home with your family.

[Joe Button]

You already stay at home.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My family?

[Mona]

Fuck them. I'm about to write them every day and talk to them on the phone.

[Parks]

You feel guilty enough. You about to leave your family for.

[Mona]

He don't got little kids. He got grandkids, them grandchildren. I'm out, ready do a cold get. I go to jail with a std. Yeah. I need a treatment when I get there.

[Joe Button]

I'm spending my freedom time with the people that's going to hold me down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You people, they going to forget about you when you like I'm about to

[Parks]

say, they not going to hold you down. Your whole business.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I knew I had two months, like two months before I get locked up for 14 years. I mean, I would spend time with my family.

[Parks]

More than that, I'd do more than that.

[Mona]

Yo, turning, having to turn yourself, it's probably one of the worst things in the world because there's nothing you could do to prepare for real. No matter what you do, you still feel like that day. Like this. I shouldn't do it. I did that before the judge gave me 45 days to turn myself in. It's horrible. Supposed to, you know, get your in, get your order, make sure you sparkle no matter what. You never could do enough. And you still. That day when you drive there, it's like it was like, why am I going here? Or that end it. Why should I? I might as well just run. Leave. Yeah, real. But you know, play. What do you mean?

[Parks]

What was your sentence?

[Mona]

Like a year? That was it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, so what you do if you wasn't spending it with your family, what

[Mona]

would you do for the time before coke run sex? I would go to jail with std. I'll be getting High.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I meant in the past. What did you actually do?

[Parks]

Oh, cool.

[Joe Button]

The question.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Speaking of holding people down, I don't know if this is real or not, but I'mma read it anyway. They say India broke up with Dirt.

[Mona]

Good for India.

[Joe Button]

She put it on her story. I'mma read it to you for. Don't go nowhere. Listen to this. I don't even know how to say this, but I got to get this off my chest. It's been two years now with Dirk's case, and there's still no real time timeline on when he's coming home. Even after everything we've been fighting for. I've turned down. This gotta be fake.

[Parks]

I'm. I'm not rolling.

[Joe Button]

It gotta be fake. I've turned down so many dudes who've been trying to get at me because I was staying loyal and holding my family down.

[Mona]

That's fake.

[Joe Button]

This is fake. It gotta be fake. But.

[Parks]

So, Joe, you are terrible.

[Joe Button]

Wait, but honestly, I can't do this anymore.

[Mona]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

So I'm letting the world know I'm

[Cheyenne Bryant]

moving on with my life.

[Joe Button]

That's a great fake. That's a good fake.

[Mona]

If she were to leave, like, who would blame her? Like that. He caught that bad case. He caught that bad case with vine and he got up out of that for. However. Because I don't even remember that. Remember when they saw their. Their blonde dreads out the window? I thought he was done then. Like, I think a lot of Dirt fans because really grew up together kind of people disappointed him. This was stupid. You didn't even try to. To like watch your body and not get caught. You did a lot of dumb ass. Like, if she leaves, she should leave. All the children take care all them kids never get no dick is crazy. Like, find them children to stepdad child.

[Parks]

You saying it's dumb. It was the same fans that was. I want to say trolling them, but like, because you talk about this in your music, do something. And that was a thing like, all right, you, you, you the king of get back and sliding and spinning and all that. Do something. So I. I do agree it was done, but I think it. It was a lot of pressure from my quote unquote supporters and people that look up to me in this life.

[Mona]

I disagree. I think that even with my own. My own experience, when people are saying things to me in the Internet where they like being messy or trying to figure something out, or they're telling me to do something that's not good for me, Those aren't fans. They might know who I am, but those not my fans. My core fans never telling me nothing to nothing other than some loving. I feel like with Dirt, those not fans. Those might like Dirk music or know the Beef, but real core dude, Dirk fans, they ain't on that. No love that like he family. That is stupid. I feel like when Dirt got indicted, I more saw a lot of my peers, like just disappointed and they get like sick. People didn't even clown as much as many people get clowned when they get booked. I feel like how many skits and did you see? People didn't even laugh at them because it wasn't really funny. It was just dumb.

[Parks]

It was sad.

[Mona]

Like, why the like you.

[Parks]

You was there, you was at the top.

[Mona]

And there's too many in the gang where you didn't have to. You could have made that happen without you booking rental. Like that was crazy. Like you booking the rentals, the flights, whatever. That's dumb as that was so stupid.

[Parks]

It was a lot of missteps.

[Mona]

But I mean, you know, when I start paying to get people killed, I'm gonna do it way better than that. Yeah. Like I'm only getting like Russian hitman parks. I'm never going to do with like no black guys. I'm not no, like some like parks.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Like I don't know any either.

[Mona]

You're walking into church with your mom, she think a bumblebee hit you. You feel me? She don't know what's wrong with you. Whole time from down the street, you know, Blow guard market. Crazy. You ain't even expecting. It's crazy where my mind go.

[Parks]

Yo, the song made you cry down the movie.

[Mona]

He's heartless, bro. You wasn't sad about Dirt?

[Joe Button]

No, not. Not in the slightest. Not even a little bit.

[Mona]

Are you a Dirk fan?

[Joe Button]

I'm a fan of some songs.

[Mona]

Like you a. This ain't what you want, huh? Like Dirk with the low cut?

[Parks]

No.

[Mona]

In the Hollywood. Yeah, I'm a write on. I'll wait.

[Joe Button]

You would. You would write for him?

[Mona]

I email him.

[Joe Button]

What else is important? What else is important?

[Parks]

What we got?

[Joe Button]

What we got?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What we got some sad videos hitting the Internet, man. Like legit sad.

[Joe Button]

There's two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The first one. One makes me more sad than the other. The first one was the new Delonte West Videos. Now he's clean. That's the first good news. He's clean.

[Joe Button]

Great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's on the video sort of talking about being clean, but he's also kind of saying, don't videotape me. And I can't tell if he's playing with the girl or not. But I think we should just have a general rule right now. Just don't videotape Delonte. I feel like too much money's being made off people suffering. Too much money's been made off somebody whose life is in a fucked up spot. He been through the worst of shit ever, yo. And I don't get why people get off on doing this shit. I've seen him do that with other celebrities. I just don't like it. But then there's another one that left me a little different.

[Joe Button]

Well, can I chime in on this one?

[Mona]

Yeah, me too, please.

[Joe Button]

I think delonte west needs to stop coming to the Internet, letting us know when he clean.

[Mona]

Maybe.

[Joe Button]

I think he needs to stop getting on the Internet every time he string together and congratulations. Cause that's a big but. We don't need to keep hearing about it. And then we see go string together some clean time on your own without announcing it, without shouting it to the go do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Phone in his face like you want some crap.

[Mona]

I disagree. I disagree. Even if he does announce me, you know how many announce it. You know how much community is online. You know how many get online, say, I want to get clean. And every day somebody sends a message that keeps them clean. That happens.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Mona]

So why not not use the community that you build from being a good basketball player that's going to pray for you that went through. What you went through was on the drugs you was on. No, you utilize that and these niggas will send you cash, apps and get you a hotel where you need it. So I think that makes sense.

[Joe Button]

Please don't let your clean time be dependent on the stranger dming you a message to make you feel good.

[Mona]

Of course not.

[Parks]

That's not true, Joe.

[Mona]

Of course not.

[Parks]

Some people get inspiration from wherever they get inspiration from. Somebody might not have family. Somebody might not have their own village or their own community. So if you got 10 people, 20 people just telling you my message is

[Joe Button]

not against community, so don't try to make me sound like that. But if you're struggling out there, get you some tools, your own tools that you don't need a stranger for.

[Parks]

Well, we say the person that don't have those tools, though, they don't.

[Mona]

They're not gonna get pain time then if they don't got no tools. You can't get clean without tools. They don't want to. But I want to say Something to what you said about people making money on suffering. I think it's bigger than celebrities recently. It's a rapper from Philadelphia named K D. He's a. He's a drug addict. He's often in Kissington. I don't know if everybody knows what Kinston is. He nodded out, he up. People always put the camera in his face. I think it's bigger than celebs. The last time K was put online, it was the page that was on it had a million followers. Every video is him walking up to somebody in a full nod saying, you all right? You good? You good? And it's 200,000 views on it. That's a problem on boy both ends. Because why is your grown ass watching this? Because it's how you can make money. Because people like it. And then why are you doing it? Like that's the most lower level content creator. The people that have to film the unhoused, the homeless people that film street walkers or drug addict. That is morally up that you are lining your pockets. You're not helping these people. You don't have any training. The guy that films the street walkers, he'll ask him, have you ever been molested? Like you're a regular. Used to work at kids Kmart. And now you think you built to talk to this lady that's already out here on the brink of death. Just your conversation might set her off and she kills herself. You don't know what you're doing. You have no training to do that. So why are you doing that? It's up. And I think it's even worse when you watch and engage in it. It's weird. Half y' all aunts and grandma's crackheads. You know what it looked like? That's weird. Like that's weird. Like that's so strange.

[Joe Button]

What was the next line?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Adrian Bronner.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I was about to ask where y' all stand on Adrian Broner? Since we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Adrian Broner got.

[Joe Button]

We praying for the. This, this, this.

[Mona]

I felt bad about Adrian. I ain't going to lie.

[Parks]

I feel bad about both of them.

[Mona]

I ain't share it or nothing.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

What's happened with him recently?

[Mona]

He was on a stream and he asked his stream with.

[Joe Button]

With Dean the Great and all of it is classic.

[Mona]

He did a. He did a stream. He asked his girl for a kiss. That's the first thing I saw went viral. But he seemed like he a little inebriate, his belly all big and hard. Then the next clip he's asking the guy, I guess whose stream it is, or one of the cameramen, can you pay for my Uber? But at one point, he's saying to him, like, I promise you, you gonna get it back. I promise you won't get. Like.

[Parks]

He seemed up even in the first clip that you was talking about where he asked the girl for the kiss. His response to when she was like, yeah, nah, but I'll give. You know, he's like, give me a kiss for chat. She said, no, I'll give the chat a kiss, and walked over. Kiss the camera. And he went off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, like, lay down, bro. No, you hit a slur speech. You don't gotta spend the money on that. We chilling.

[Mona]

We got. We bought this crib for this whole 48 hours for all this, bro. You. You. You trying to save all the holes for you. No, I'm not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, chill, bro. You, bro.

[Parks]

You scaring them away, though.

[Mona]

All the hoes, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wo.

[Joe Button]

Bro. See, when I. When I wrote Adrian Broner down and talk about. As a topic is before it got serious and I was having the time of my life laughing at this, it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I said I was mixing up.

[Joe Button]

No, no, come on. Oh, no, that's the Uber one. Hold up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, what's your name?

[Mona]

Ty.

[Parks]

Can I see a Ty?

[Mona]

No.

[Joe Button]

Here, just one.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Mona]

S.

[Joe Button]

Ain't nothing sad about that.

[Mona]

Them titties sad.

[Joe Button]

There's 10 million Adrian Broner videos of him just ruining the fun of him talking aggressively to women. Scaring the women, scaring the hoes.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

From the same stream.

[Joe Button]

Yes, yes, it's the same stream, man.

[Mona]

I hope he made a bag off of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At least he need a couple bags. It got sadder by the end because first he's on the video like, yo, make my own millions. I'm getting money. I got bread. All this at the top. And by the end, he's like, can I get a Uber? Some Uber money.

[Parks]

I get it back to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it back to. You know, I mean. And so at first, I was laughing till the guy, like, I was like, oh, he's.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Here we go.

[Joe Button]

Here we go.

[Mona]

Let's kiss for the chat. That's crazy.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Mona]

Where's the seasoning?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She.

[Mona]

She going to be a. I leave, though.

[Joe Button]

Oh, here we go.

[Mona]

I don't.

[Parks]

I don't play with women.

[Joe Button]

Turn up, baby.

[Mona]

Oh, that plan. I don't play with women.

[Parks]

Getting your insel back. I'm really him, bro.

[Joe Button]

Talk to these.

[Mona]

I don't gotta.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gotta.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I don't care how beautiful six Months pregnant. None of that, bro. I make my own millions.

[Joe Button]

Talk to him, Ab.

[Mona]

Don't nobody do a round for me. Don't nobody run a mile for me. Not none of that.

[Joe Button]

Y. He said, can I get a good kiss? She said, no. He said, that's crazy. Yo, everybody had one of these nights where you invite homie over and he just scared all of us. Scare you? Yeah, it's all bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You in the hole. He talking about golf. Because you know we got the golf out there. Yeah. So he said, we got to play the golf and he got.

[Mona]

We gotta make it.

[Parks]

What he talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You owe me some coochie. You in the humble. See, he talking about golf.

[Mona]

Can I ask y' all a question like that?

[Parks]

Get your whole crew jam.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I'll get that. I'll get you the Uber. Don't worry about it.

[Mona]

Can I ask you a question? You ever see a guy one of your Scared a hole so much or do so much creepy with the. That you don't even with him no more because it was that bad?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I love to hear that. I'm proud of you guys.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Hell yeah.

[Parks]

Like a. Like that. That he.

[Joe Button]

Wait a second. Y' all seen one of your dudes scared a whole. So much that you never spoke to him again?

[Mona]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not like, what are y' all talking about?

[Parks]

Cut him off. Yeah, cut them off.

[Joe Button]

She tricked him in the ass and that nut ass. What are y' all talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I stopped rolling. I started, like, kicking it with him. Like I go out with him. I didn't. Like, I'm never speaking to you again. Just like I stopped kicking it with him.

[Parks]

I've distanced myself from the night for sure. I'm talk.

[Mona]

But I listen. I'm talking about, like, as far as he's getting handsy or you have to get him. You have to get him away from the drunk girl. Like, he's crazy creepy too far with it. That's the guy.

[Joe Button]

I know.

[Mona]

I know that cut off of that because there's nothing. Nothing good's gonna come for y' all all gonna get a rape for hanging with the period.

[Parks]

Do it before. That's what he is in that. In that video. You see it already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He.

[Parks]

He's starting to feel away. He get. He drunk neck. The next step is to get handsy

[Mona]

or I'm smacking a. Or something.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's like, yo, yo, my man, you gotta. Yo, we gotta get him out of here, bro.

[Mona]

The only other option is you acting like you don't see it because what are you gonna do? You gonna jump in it, break it up? Or you just gonna act? Let your man just run his movie. He's really totally like on some.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Parks]

I mean, we saw it not too long ago with the cam shit. He was on cam in them show and Cam had the family.

[Mona]

Cam wasn't playing with him either. I respected Kim for that because she's at work and then it's like her in the back. I don't know if that's his folks too, but it's like I told you once or twice. No. Just cause I'm a girl don't mean I. I gotta sit here and play this game with you. That corny. And you know how that feels. You already nervous. You gotta do this job with these. With this famous guy. But now I gotta flirt with you and all. I gotta ignore you flirting with me. That corny. I respect the King for doing that. Like, I wish he would have stopped somebody from taking my cream pies on my Dr. Pepper.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God. I'm praying for Adrian Broner, but this is a mess. And it's just. It is a little bit funny. It is a little funny to see a scaring the hole. As long as you're not there. Like if I could watch it from my phone. Like his homeboy was getting. Like he was hugging on one of them. Like the girls was in them. Ab would come over there, try to separate them, talking about, yo, I'm too. You like him, you like me. Come on. She for all. She for both of us. These clips is on my timeline all day long.

[Parks]

I'm telling you like that. Gotta go.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Absolutely.

[Parks]

Gotta go quickly. You about to this whole.

[Joe Button]

The that invited him. Got to go too.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Facts.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Money. They trying to make money.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Like they just made a bag off of him.

[Parks]

Did they?

[Mona]

Yeah. That stream they make. If that viral. That's the whole point for your stream to go up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate. And he ain't got jumping. I'm sorry.

[Mona]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I say everybody's making money off him but him. You know, I know he's lost millions on all these judgments and lawsuits. And no more money's coming in. And he's got a shitload of kids.

[Parks]

Then some shit happened too where he was like in a club or something. And he ain't pay for the. The bottles. Something happened. I forgot what it was not too long ago. I'm good, bro. I hate to see a black rise fall from grace.

[Joe Button]

So you don't remember the story? What?

[Mona]

And I think some part of the reason why people are laughing at it was. I feel like the comments were. Was like, middle ground. Some people felt bad. Some people was like, him is because he's been so arrogant.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mona]

And even in this, you feel bad, but he's still popping it. Like, you know why? Your belly biggest.

[Parks]

I make my own millions.

[Mona]

Yeah, your belly biggest. Don't I want your belly on my back. Big ass belly.

[Joe Button]

Okay. So we're sending prayers out to Adrien Broner, man.

[Parks]

And Delonte west, especially.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I mean, if we on this. People on streams seem like they might need a prayer too. I want to send one off a Dame Dash, too,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yo. If that's what we on some part of the problem. Because I watch every Dame Dash video from start to finish, every minute of it in the last one.

[Joe Button]

Why? Because, you know, you. You know the entertainment that's coming.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This entertainment, and I'm a little ocd.

[Parks]

It's not even entertaining no more. Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a little. It's a little entertaining because now I'm like. Because it's taking different moments. First it was, I don't talk about homeboy. Then it was, I only talk about homeboy because y' all keep asking. Then there's I'm an answer. But I ain't gonna say nothing bad because I still keep it g. Cause I'm. You know. And now it's like Reasonable Doubt. That was mid.

[Parks]

It was trash.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It seems like a new phase.

[Parks]

I like Dame. I really like Dame. I think Dame is one of the most influential people we've had. And I think when Dame gets in his bag, Dame is smart as shit and could really give you some gems. I don't like seeing him like this. This was bad. It seemed like he was a little under the influence, too. But I ain't like this. It was bad. Yo, whack. A can't dress ain't got no swag.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No stage show.

[Parks]

Stage show trash. He said, I'mma always be broke, but I'mma spend it. I think. I think saving money's for suckers.

[Joe Button]

That's what he said.

[Parks]

That's the. That's what he. That's the message you put.

[Mona]

He's just saying anything and just point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not just saying anything. I think he's trying to protect the.

[Parks]

I think he trying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Good.

[Parks]

Like, I think that. I think that we speak without speaking.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

On a podcast.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

I think that, you know now, cuz the knock is that he broke, and so now it's almost like you putting it out Intentionally. I'm intentionally broke.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think he's got some people after him too, right?

[Parks]

Like, yo, I ain't keeping no money. I think that shit is whack. I make mad money, but I'm always spend it on myself. I'm always expendit into my next projects and all that other. Because Dame's thing is, yo, I spend my own money for all of my business ventures. I'm not borrowing money. So he's saying, yo, I'm making my money and I throw it back out to. To further my business ventures. I don't know when you just start talking about reasonable doubt was whack. Ain't do nothing all that other. I just think that's trash. Nobody's listening to Jay Z. Nobody cares about Jay. He went on, he kept going. He said a lot of it was over. He said it was over for Jay when he started wearing the button ups. Yeah, like that's when it was over. That's when it was over. Nobody putting on Yankee fitted with dress shirts and cufflinks.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, he was a lot of people.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Was put to the whole generation called New York was outside with the G.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You go to the club, everybody was

[Parks]

dressed like that stupid ass.

[Mona]

He just come off bitter. And it's like, no, you never want to come off bitter or jaded now on the Internet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's why I don't like there was a moment where it came off like I'm above the fray. I'm keeping it P. He's not. You know what I mean? I'm better than that. Whatever happened over there now, it comes off like bitter. It comes off as angry. There's a petty jealous. I won't say he's jealous, but it's just coming. It's coming off as petty. I'm not trying to speak for how Dame feels. I'm just saying for how it comes off. To me as a viewer who like you, I have a lot of respect and admiration for Dame. So when I see this, even him coming at cam and I know they're doing it back and forth, but just going in about his designer teeth and my. It's got more Ferraris than yours. Like that's. That's not the flex that you want to be saying, bro.

[Mona]

It's not the flex after you almost spit your. Your mitt across the room like you the one talking. You know what I mean? So how can you talk about this? Cam teeth and you joins you. Jordan's holding on by Velcro in a wet mouth.

[Parks]

Yo, Dame come Off to me. We, we. And I don't know him, but just his moves and stuff comes off like the ex that is super bitter. And anytime you do something, anytime there's some positive news about you, they gotta jump out with some shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

That's what it look like. Anytime we hear something whole. This whole reasonable doubt 30 the Yankee Stadium show, all of this. Now I have to stomp on this as much as I can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He said, that's why I gave it up. Cause it wasn't worth shit. Da da da da, Right. It was a lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He threw some gems. That Harvey Weinstein story was actually pretty interesting, entertaining. You know, he's talking about going into business with them on. On that club or whatever. Harvey never paid his 70 grand. But Harvey was like a freak doing weird in the kitchen. Like he stuck. He. But he was talking about how he kept Harvey like his little. Making fun of him while the other rappers was kind of sweating Harvey. Like he's projecting something. But he's also. These are the kind of stories that I think if he turned into a memoir.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like an actual book or, or. Or even a doc film, you know, where he's straight the camera.

[Parks]

He's not gonna hire you, yo.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, he sees the dop.

[Mona]

Nah, he's right there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't let him hire me, man. He's not my daddy. Boss is man. It's like calling him my daddy, though.

[Parks]

I mean, man can't work for another man.

[Mona]

The stories and experiences he can share, only he can. And he, he would. He could run his movie like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Mona]

He gotta let some shit go to do that. Like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the problem is. And I'm not. I don't know his financial situation, but it seems like based on the platforms he's going on, that people are paying him a cash app amount to go on these platforms and talk and give it up. And everybody, everybody's like, look, I'll give Dame X. I don't know what X is, but I'll give Dame X. I'll get my views and you tell me, talk about these same people over and over again. It looks like a cash grab and it doesn't look good. I'm he again. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.

[Mona]

It's. Yeah, yeah, he been on that cash grab. It's a hustle. What else he going to do for money?

[Parks]

Ears out to Dane.

[Mona]

What else he going to do?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Anybody see any of the HOV and New York Times interview the 30 saw some clips. 30 songwriters. The one that kind of went the most viral. Is this clip about aging in hip hop? Essentially, yeah. Is. Is how I took it. I'll give you a little, little clip here.

[Joe Button]

You're not playing. There we go.

[Guest Speaker]

That's why hip hop became so big, because everyone wanted to feel those feelings. I tell people all the time, never fight against the future. Future's coming. Artists, they were trying to recreate something that was already done, but they're not connected to it like that. They're not living it and breathing it. They were fighting against gravity as opposed to telling their story. We needed that other side. We needed to hear about what happens when you have four successful albums. What happens? What is that feeling like? How do you make the next one? How did you get in the studio? How are your kids? Like what. How do you interact with them as this hip hop dad? But if you're trying to make young music and you're not, you know, you're not young, it's gonna be inauthentic. And people could feel that. You can smell it. So the best thing anyone can do, like, going through music is to tell a story and. And just keep creating from that space.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

How do you feel about that?

[Joe Button]

How do I feel about it? Yeah, I agree.

[Parks]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Mona]

Do you?

[Parks]

And I'm not even an artist.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I mean, I've been saying that for ages.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, I agree for the most part. But we also have gotten a lot of good music with lies.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, I didn't take him to say. I didn't think he was saying, don't lie. Don't tell lies.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

He's saying, grow with your music, though.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I agree with that.

[Parks]

Or if you're a real artist, you can incorporate. Incorporate what you are going through in your real life, in your music. Like, he's saying, yo, after I have four successful albums now, where am I? I could now put that into my music. Like, now I'm doing this, I'm doing that. I'm getting looked at this way, I'm getting looked at that way, and put that in your music. But see, that's only for the artist that wants to give, like, their authentic self on an album. Everybody not trying to do that. True. Some people are literally just artists. Like, you get this version of me and. And if I had a run of making club records or whatever, or young records, this is my quote unquote formula. This is successful. Yeah. But then when you get to be 45 or 50 years old, the relatability and the disconnect is there. And now you don't have an audience. Cause you're still trying to make young records. I might still have an audience though. I might if I'm still making good music. I think you look stupid. I think you look stupid. If you 50 years old and you making songs about the same shit that Glorilla and Sexyy Red are talking about at 50. I think you look stupid. And I think it does come off as you not being authentic or you not being genuine.

[Joe Button]

Having an audience nowadays is how people rationalize being inauthentic. And I don't understand that.

[Parks]

True.

[Joe Button]

Like, all right, you got an audience.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You inauthentic.

[Parks]

Yeah. You saying what I'm saying is something you don't even agree with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, it's hard though.

[Parks]

To a successful act they might be okay with that ain't that. That's the other part. I'm saying like they might be fine with. Okay, cool. I'm inauthentic. My goal here wasn't to necessarily there you. Some people come into hip hop wanting to be themselves, wanting to be the best, whatever the case may be. Some people come in here saying, yo, I need, I want to make a ton of money. And if I can find a lane where I can make a ton of money, I'm gonna stay in that lane and make a ton of money until I can't anymore. Then maybe I'll do something, something else. But I think it speaks to the, the. Sorry. I think it speaks to the longevity of the artist too. Because again, relatability is a thing. We like Jay Z because in some points Jay Z is relatable to us. But that's us as older us. That's what goes to what Dame is saying. The kids don't fuck with Jay Z because nothing he says is relatable to them.

[Mona]

Cool.

[Parks]

But I still have a 30 year fan base that I can give himself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And just a fairness of Dame. Dame also conceded. He said and Hope's not supposed to to be making young people music.

[Joe Button]

Like can we not say dam name again for the rest of this broadcast?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

For sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I just didn't want to sound like we was dragging. Like I didn't want to misrepresent. People were saying what he said I was dragging something. He didn't say, oh, let's lie on him.

[Parks]

Go ahead, Mona.

[Mona]

People were saying that Jay Z was

[Mark Lamont Hill]

talking about Drake and I hated that. It's like everything got to revolve around Drake like that.

[Mona]

I mean, I mean Drake is 40

[Parks]

though, but he didn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody's 40.

[Parks]

You heard what Jay Z said? I'm Jay Z. Yeah, that. That's the answer to that.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Mona. He was talking about Drake.

[Parks]

I did. I don't think so. I don't definitely.

[Joe Button]

He wasn't talking to nobody but Drake, mind you.

[Mona]

And I think it's bigger than just Drake.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

His 40s been talking about Yay a little bit too.

[Mona]

Especially after this whole. He could. Yeah. Word. But he, after this whole thing with Kendrick is like he looks more. The most. More authentic than inauthentic than he ever has. So it's like it goes along.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think the shoe fits a lot though, cuz I mean I hear a lot of definite demos from people that, you know, send me songs and they might be our age.

[Joe Button]

Ish.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And it's like why are you trying to make some young.

[Parks]

Yeah, I think, I think the shoe

[Cheyenne Bryant]

fits on a lot of feet. But to that point the biggest foot might be Drake or.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I just know him a little bit. So how I interpret his is just. I know you're talking to or not talking too because like I said, I'm Jay Z, but I know where, where this is.

[Parks]

Let me give you an example. Future's 42 years old. Future makes music. For who? He does not make music from 42 year old success. And it still works, people. If Future came and dropped the. I hate to use the analogy, but the Future came and dropped a 444 would hate that. Some people might appreciate it. But Future makes music. What I'm saying is he has his lane that he has been successful in since he got in that lane.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I hate the 444 analogy too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's about like going through family. These people don't necessarily have wives and children.

[Joe Button]

Do you have another example outside of Future? I could, I think think for a second it's something like. I just like to hear something chains.

[Parks]

He's kind of matured it up a little bit. I was gonna say him and look, I was gonna say him. But his last.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

His last.

[Parks]

Has it been as commercially successful?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, maybe not.

[Parks]

No, maybe not. Well, that's.

[Joe Button]

But that's not cuz it's.

[Mona]

I don't think so. He grew a lot since.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think that's just artist life.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shelf life.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Shelf life.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's what I said though. I think that the longevity of the artist you could tie directly to. You could keep your fan base, bro. It's people that have been listening to the Joe Button podcast podcast for 10 years and have grown with the podcast.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Parks]

I think because the podcast has changed and shifted. If you were still coming and doing with the same exact you might have did 10 years ago, you might have lost a significant amount of that fan

[Mark Lamont Hill]

base, but it's grown a lot more political, more thoughtful,

[Parks]

like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just think that. I think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, for sure, man.

[Parks]

I think some people, Juicy J, I think some people just stay in their lane, and this is what's working for me, and this is the type of music I'm gonna make. This is what my fans come to me for. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not moving.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that because I have a second clip from this interview that I really liked a lot that did not go viral, but he kind of talks

[Guest Speaker]

about that this is what we deserve. Like I said, those are the ingredients that go in the song. Whether it be about, you know, a big yacht or the Lexus bragging about money. Those are just props. Those. That's not the engine. That's not the emotion that my music is running on. But once you get into the interior of the song, what you're hearing is the same thing you. You're gonna hear from, you know, someone who has some integrity, morality, questions about religion, questions about who you are as a man, relationships, your legacy, your children, the fears that they're gonna have, you know, whatever karmic debt that you. You put out there and how. How you know that's gonna affect your family, those are the real themes. My locations have changed, but who I am as a person and what I believe in, none of that's changed.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I love that because, you know, we talk about, like, even with clips with coke, rap, or it's not necessarily about coke or it's not about. Juicy J may not be the best example, but even within some of that, there's some. Some of those themes. It's just the vehicle is turned up in the club or hoes or smoking weed or whatever. But there's.

[Parks]

You can sprinkle some.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

There's. There's a meaning underneath it. You're just talking about to make it sound good, essentially.

[Parks]

Or. Or those might be the A sides that I'm gonna still try and sell to be commercially successful. But then you get. Because the song he referring to is the Beach Chair song. That's one of my favorite songs on Jay Z. But the. Where he talking about karmic retribution when you did your kids gonna pay for for it and all that other stuff. Like, that's. That's the real B side that you could get the meat and potatoes.

[Mona]

And.

[Parks]

And not every rapper is looking to be introspective. That's really what it is. He speak. All of that speaks to introspection.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

True.

[Parks]

And. And. And that's Sliver over here. Who. Who will. Who will get into that bag? Everybody. Don't. You're right. And that's all I'm saying. Like his. His.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Hov you look at yourself and your career that way. But there's another person. Person who. Hey, I don't want to do that. I'm not interested in putting my life on record. I'm here to make these hits. And they turn up to these hits.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Parks]

Hip hop is my job. To some people, hip hop is their life. And they feel like they owe it to the fans to be authentic, to be themselves, to give their all on the record. Not everybody subscribes to that. And you can't hold them to your standard. That's your standard beach chair. Amazing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's one of your favorites though. I just surprised me.

[Parks]

I love that song. I love that song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No judgment.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Just judgment.

[Parks]

I know it was judgment in there. Definitely.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Shout out to Hope, man. It's a great interview. It's out. It's out now on YouTube. So you can check the whole thing. I had to kind of find it before.

[Parks]

Indeed.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I just don't like that. What you talking about?

[Parks]

Young.

[Joe Button]

Artistic. You don't like that? I do.

[Parks]

I'm saying that. But there could be somebody that don't care about that. There's a market for both. We can't pick what we like and make it gotta apply to the. To the entire field or what we want.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And to be fair, I don't think that he was. I think that he was just describing his songwriting process and the way that he views writing songs. So it's. It's a Jay Z centric.

[Parks]

But once you start saying the whole you're fighting gravity and you're not. Maybe not. If I'm not trying to. If I can. If I am a hit making machine and I can make a hit and I can stay in this box and do that, I'm good, but long.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

If you look at the scope of what we've witnessed, there's not many people that didn't have to fight gravity at some point. Father Thomas, undefeated, like 99%, maybe 100.

[Parks]

I'm just saying that's.

[Joe Button]

I guarantee you that he looks at Drake like he's fighting gravity.

[Parks]

That's cool.

[Joe Button]

That don't Say that he's not successful and.

[Parks]

No, but he could be fighting gravity and that.

[Joe Button]

Don't say that Drake ain't doing exactly what he want wants to do. Right. Did you think of the other artists yet outside the future?

[Parks]

I, I, I, I gave Juicy J as an example. There's quite a few that's still making this type of music that ain't changed. French is about to do a versus, would you. Ain't no introspection in them songs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And they hits

[Parks]

good point.

[Joe Button]

Duche beach chair.

[Parks]

And he's what, 43, 44, something like that?

[Mona]

I just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's better than that.

[Parks]

No, listen to the words in that song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I love.

[Mona]

It's not that, babe. It's just like. What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a thousand songs to choose.

[Mona]

Why would you say that on the podcast? Like, I can see you liking the song. We just chatting about.

[Parks]

The song he referring to in the. The interview.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Parks]

That's the song he's referring to in the interview.

[Mona]

Is that your favorite Jay Z song, though?

[Parks]

I like that. I really, really, really.

[Mona]

Is it on your top three? Jay Z Jones.

[Parks]

No. He got 16 albums. I don't know what my top. The lyrics in this song, y' all

[Joe Button]

get a little disrespectful.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They are.

[Parks]

The lyrics in this song are insane. This ain't. This ain't no be.

[Joe Button]

They getting a little disrespectful.

[Parks]

Philly, bro.

[Joe Button]

Wow. This song is a deep song.

[Mona]

A deep song.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Life is but a dream to me. I don't want to wake up having my cake gun.

[Parks]

Yo, he went crazy in that song.

[Joe Button]

I believe you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We all like the song. It was just.

[Parks]

Everybody don't like the song. Some people don't even know this song exists. Some people don't even know this song. Don't know the words in this song. Don't know nothing that I'm talking about. When I related it to that interview.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with you. I just thought you were saying, like, it was one of your top five. We just thought you had it, like,

[Mona]

as an elite or top six or nine or 60. That's crazy. To say it like on a pod is crazy wild.

[Parks]

Yo, yo.

[Joe Button]

Do y' all agree with. Do y' all agree with Lexi Brown going to the Internet and doing a live.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Talking about she mad that Not. She's mad, but she is surprised that Clay. Neither Clay nor Meg took to the Internet to kind of clear up the rumors about her being involved in this cheating scandal shit and saying that that was fucked up, that she's the only one that's come forward to say, hey, none of this is true. Whose side are y' all on?

[Parks]

Hers.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

What's the backstory? She's the girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Is she.

[Parks]

She. She's.

[Joe Button]

She's a young lady.

[Parks]

That.

[Joe Button]

When the Clay. When the Clay. Meg rumors popped up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They're alleging she was.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they're alleging that she was the one.

[Parks]

But because of that, you know how these fans get. She's like, yo, I'm getting death threats. I'm getting all kind of wild happening over here, and I'm taking her at her word. If she wasn't with Dude, Or. Or that isn't the case, y' all can have. Y' all should clear my name up. Keep me out of this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, I don't think they both have to clear.

[Parks]

I don't think. Yo, she was saying somebody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm with you.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Who?

[Mona]

Who?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Who?

[Joe Button]

Her.

[Parks]

Who's responsible for clearing her name?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Meg.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Meg?

[Parks]

Yeah, her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Meg. Meg. Clay didn't come out and say, oh,

[Parks]

Meg is the person that said that she was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If somebody comes out and says Meg

[Joe Button]

didn't say she was with Lexi Brown.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen to what I'm saying. Nobody knew they had a problem until Meg went on social media and said, I'm breaking up with him because he's cheating, and issued a press release saying somebody cheating. Suddenly these rumors come out about Lexi Brown, which could have been planned by somebody, which somebody could have speculated. My point is, Lexi Brown's name only got brought into it cuz somebody else. Cuz. Cuz Meg released a story. Clay Thompson is on a boat fishing. He ain't said a word, but Meg

[Joe Button]

could have been talking about a whole nother chick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying it's her fault.

[Parks]

All right, so hold up.

[Mona]

He's saying.

[Parks]

He said Meg needs to come out and address this.

[Mona]

Since Meg is the one that told everybody's a cheater. Meg needs to come out and tell everybody, this ain't the girl.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Parks]

So listen to this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm surprised y' all have to tell,

[Parks]

because what we do sometimes to justify our point is throw these hypotheticals out and say, maybe this got leaked or maybe so let's take the leaked shit out. We gonna go by what we know. Meg and Clay had a relationship, and somehow their relationship broke up. Broke up.

[Guest Speaker]

Pardon me.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

No, she posted on the Internet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's not a hypothetical that it got leaked. Can my boy cook? Okay, I'm just saying. You said it's a hypothetical leaked. It did get leaked. That's how we know.

[Mona]

Can Chef Boy BRD get leaked, please?

[Parks]

Megan Clay breakup. Meg goes public with the breakup. Now all of a sudden, Lexi is getting dragged into this. Do we know for certain that Meg dragged her into this? No, we do not know that for certain. So why does Meg owe this young lady into anything? One, because there was no story until Meg did something. I broke up with my man. Who gives A. That's 1.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you misunderstood what I said.

[Parks]

Hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

2.

[Parks]

Again, the girl said, yo, I'm getting death threats and all of this other shit from your fans. Now, one would expect Meg to understand the.

[Mona]

The.

[Parks]

The mental aspect of people, the comments and all that shit, because of the shit she's been through. So even if it's just a, hey, dawg, I know how that feels. I know what that's about. I'll clear that up. Just because it wasn't. It wasn't you. If that's the truth now, if. If Lexi just trying to get ahead of some shit. No, but if it's a fact that this ain't the person that he was cheating with, this is not who you caught him with. This is not why y' all broke up. But, you know, I'm catching the brunt for the shit that you put out there. Yeah, I think you should at least clear that up.

[Mona]

I. I see what you're saying, but I feel like if she comes out and clears it up now, it's just under pressure to say who it is. So every time they guess a person now it's the pressure because. Because then when I don't say, oh, she didn't do it either, now it's like, oh, this is her. And then that really gonna get down.

[Parks]

We wouldn't know if she didn't say nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, here's.

[Mona]

Here's an.

[Parks]

Implicate the girl, bro.

[Mona]

That's. Nobody said that, baby.

[Parks]

Nobody is saying she brung up cheating.

[Mona]

So being that she brung up cheating and possibly sent the fans on a goose chase, she would have just said she broke up. Nobody been mad at nobody. That's. People are normally mad at the guy, but they triple mad at the guy when the guys are cheating. Cheater. So when she comes out and says, hey, we broke up because somebody cheated, that's like starting the witch hunt. So when this girl is drowning, it's like, help me out To.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To be clear. And I agree with that. Like, I wasn't suggesting that Meg leaked it. I was saying that it was. It's a fact that it was leaked. Somebody was the girl. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not saying Meg leaked. I'm saying somebody leaked it.

[Joe Button]

It's comprehend better than y' all are giving them credit.

[Mona]

He.

[Joe Button]

He's still saying understand what? He still.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fine.

[Mona]

You didn't understand.

[Parks]

I understood what Mark said.

[Mona]

Oh, you just don't give a.

[Parks]

Okay, no, I just.

[Joe Button]

I don't give a what Mark said.

[Mona]

Like this, this what I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was initially I, it seemed.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I agree with you on this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fine. I'm just. All I'm adding to is, is this because I think it is important? It's because I don't think every time a rumor comes out about somebody that a person has a duty to refute it. I don't think that. That's not what I think. But Megan Thee Stallion has a very particular type of fan base. So does. I won't say nobody. A lot of people, other woman artists in particular though have very rabid fan bases that dox that attack people.

[Joe Button]

They got my boy scared to even

[Mona]

say as you should have been scared

[Joe Button]

to even say it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They learned.

[Parks]

They told you they was going, I

[Mark Lamont Hill]

g you understanding, Mark.

[Joe Button]

They gave you understanding.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who am I talking about, Joe?

[Joe Button]

You talking about the Barbs. Boom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, now it's cleared up.

[Parks]

And. And the other ones.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

[Mona]

To say these names.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Type of

[Mona]

we from Philly.

[Guest Speaker]

Okay.

[Mona]

Them Barbs.

[Joe Button]

Oh no, the views.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They've used a Mona Love respect. No. So anyway, my point is just if you know that throwing something out there is gonna. If you have a reasonable expectation that your fan base is not a normal fan base, that they're gonna go out and chase people down and do fucked up things to people. I just think that's different than a normal situation. I'm not saying everybody. I'm saying because of the kind of fans that she has. And you went out and you threw something out there and I'm assuming she didn't leak the girl's name. I'm saying assuming someone else did it, you could kinda just be like, yo, this girl's getting death threats. I don't want her to get death threat. Like to me, that's an easy thing to do.

[Joe Button]

My question to you is, is there a world where you believe not you believe because you wouldn't believe it. Is there a world where Meg could know this about her fan base and is all for them dragging this bitch

[Mark Lamont Hill]

to hell if she thinks she did it? Yes, that's why I think it's fucked up. That's my point.

[Parks]

I said when she first put the statement. It was that statement. That Instagram post was designed to weaponize her fan base.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It invites Specula. It invites her fans to do exactly what they.

[Parks]

Once they get a target.

[Joe Button]

All I'm saying, Alexi Brown, is who the do you think is supposed to clear your name? Like, I don't see that. I'm confused by that. Maybe supposed to lost by that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Supposed to might be strong. I'm saying if should.

[Mona]

What did Lexi Brown say in her video?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I. I didn't. I didn't see it.

[Joe Button]

I was going to go somewhere else.

[Mona]

I'm curious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It. It would just be hard for me to sit here if you. When you said your pies were stolen, right?

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I knew Ish didn't take him. He did. He did. But if I knew he didn't take him. Or you better. If you knew he didn't take him and everybody started going after him, I think you'd be like, yo, it was an issue. I was with him. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to do that.

[Mona]

I would totally let y' all fuck him up. But I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no. I just can't watch that happen if I can stop it. Especially if I knew my fans were crazy, bro.

[Mona]

Fuck that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some of them.

[Joe Button]

I think all celebrities, celebrity publicists don't move the same or have the same business plan or model. They all also don't react to crisis management the same. A lot of them just opt to stay low, especially if it ain't my client, and let it boil over. So it seems like that's what Clay is doing. So no matter what name they threw out there, he wasn't going to say too much. If it don't apply to Lexi Brown, then unfortunately, yeah, you just gotta stay. Stay low, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But you come out because you coming out and saying, yo, it's not me. Ain't gonna make nobody think it's not you. Cool.

[Parks]

But again, we speak to all this mental health, and again, the girl is sitting here saying, I'm getting death threats behind this. This ain't just. Y' all bothering me.

[Mona]

Right.

[Parks]

It's a little bit more. And these fans be crazy as. And we know this.

[Joe Button]

People don't really care about people's mental health.

[Mona]

Yeah, that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the part of things.

[Parks]

They don't.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

They don't.

[Mona]

It's just something they say online.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mona]

It's not a real thing.

[Joe Button]

Because you know how they'll look if they don't care about it.

[Mona]

Right.

[Joe Button]

It's just something that they say to perform it.

[Mona]

Okay. Yeah. You see somebody crying walking down the street, you don't say, are you okay? Nobody does that. But online it's like, are you. You know, are you good? In reality, you walk past outside, I hate my life. I should kill myself. You keep walking. Get the out the way most people. Mark, shut up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some monsters.

[Mona]

Oh, my God. Oh, no.

[Parks]

I just was saying, like, if. Let's say. Because there's only two scenarios. It's true or it's not true. If it's true, who's gonna come forward and say that's not on either side, Clay or Meg. And then if it's not true, then Meg's not gonna come forward and say it ain't true. Neither is Clay. Clay ain't said a fucking Pete.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Parks]

So that's number one. And then if it's not true and y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Parks]

You said out of your own mouth that Meg is trying to weaponize her family fan base, then she not gonna come forward and say it's not true. Her publicist might not even let her come forward and put a statement out because it's not in the best interest of my client to do so. I'm just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that's the part I think it's.

[Parks]

I'm just solely speaking to what Meg herself has been through. She could kind of identify what she's going through. And if that's all innocent, then yeah, I might do something just because I know what that feels like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Mona]

That's the bigger point here is you don't date. That's sugar cookie colored. Problem number one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Present company excluded or.

[Mona]

You know what I'm saying, Sugar cookie color. No. That burn on the beach don't do it. Except for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They can't handle it.

[Mona]

They can't handle. No, not white. I'm talking about black. Light skinned men that wear.

[Parks]

I know what you're talking about. They can't. I can't handle it. It's hard. You gotta be on your A game.

[Mona]

Pause. Yeah, it got crazy in here.

[Joe Button]

I promise you this is some HR

[Parks]

violations.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Uncomfortable working.

[Mona]

I'm like, oh, my. This like going another way.

[Parks]

It be hard back crazy

[Mona]

trying to get the viewers listen.

[Joe Button]

I think it's funny how it stood up as the voice for all them that lay on the beach and burn. He's like, nah, we them. We still them talking about.

[Parks]

She said cookie cutter and they're a

[Joe Button]

little sugar yeah, that's you.

[Mona]

That's you, bab.

[Parks]

I got it. That's why I defended myself.

[Mona]

Okay. You know, so you represented all the

[Joe Button]

sugar cookie colored and just with sugar. Yeah.

[Parks]

Oh, that's your bad. You oatmeal with extra.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Mona]

Drake. All the sugar cookie colored.

[Parks]

Anyways out here. Problem.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mona]

Oh, God.

[Joe Button]

Still going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do y' all care that voting rights are gone?

[Mona]

No.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Mona]

Slavery's almost back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's kind of a big one. We kind of got to cover this one.

[Mona]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Because Mark works here.

[Mona]

Oh, please. Problem number one, he makes us look so dumb.

[Joe Button]

No, I care about it. Serious. What's going on?

[Mona]

He lying. He don't give a.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

A bum ass. Sincere voice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the worst sincere voice ever. You don't try no more. You should try.

[Joe Button]

I got to work on it. No. Who's losing their voter rights?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Black people.

[Parks]

Black people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody who listens to the show.

[Parks]

Black people.

[Joe Button]

It ain't just black people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Our demo.

[Parks]

No, it's a lot of whites.

[Joe Button]

Listen. Lot of whites.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just trying to get something to make.

[Mona]

Shout out to the whites.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what you get.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Parks]

Phony ass.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's what you get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Supreme Court made a ruling yesterday that will severely destroy the Voting Rights act of 1965. The Voting Rights act of 1965, of course, was a landmark decision that protected or enabled black people to be able to actually have a vote that counted, to be able to access the polls. We had a vote, but it didn't matter so much. They basically. It was a district in Louisiana that was protected. Let me make it real simple and fast. We started drawing voting districts in states to make sure that black people's votes could count. It was done to protect the integrity of the voting process and to make sure that people had districts where they could actually participate in elections and their votes matter. The Supreme Court ran, ruled it unconstitutional because they said it's basically now a moment where to consider race is racist. So to do something even to protect black people because it's explicitly racist or racial makes it unconstitutional. So they undid the law, which now means the consequence of this is that lawmakers can redraw districts in ways that basically take out our votes won't count. Our votes basically don't count.

[Parks]

We'll get drowned out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly. So they said the only way you can make. The only way you can do it is if we can prove that the intention of the people redrawing it is racist. Now that's almost impossible. Can you imagine no one ever says, hey, I'm doing this to fuck black people. Of course. Even if that's the obvious consequence. They had made the law previously that all it had to do was show a racial consequence or racist consequence. We just have to show that by doing it this way. Black people get fucked up over. Now they're like, no, black people don't just have to be fucked over. We have to have proof that the people wanted to fuck black people. Which nobody says.

[Parks]

Which we've had hundreds of years of that proof.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. So that basically means that over the next year or two or five or ten, you're gonna see them redrawing districts all around this country in ways that make it harder and harder for black people's votes to count.

[Parks]

They had a vote on in Virginia last week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep. Virginia's a major state where that's happening. Louisiana's another major state where that's happening. New Jersey is a state where we saw these kinds of fights and so forth and so on. And so it's a really ugly time. And this is the consequence partly of. Not partly, this is the consequence of Trump in all.

[Mona]

We're fucked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We're not fucked. You know what I mean? I'm not giving up.

[Parks]

He ain't a virgin.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But.

[Mona]

Piles on and piles on. You got to make a joke because you literally feel like in danger. Like, are we. We're in danger. We already in danger, but now we're in danger.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And yeah, it's getting ugly.

[Mona]

Like, what the.

[Parks]

And they so blatant.

[Mona]

Yeah, it's just so open, wild.

[Parks]

It's like we let you know right here what it is. We don't care. We ain't going to do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Mona]

This man. Cuz it don't affect him. He's in the 1%.

[Joe Button]

Oh, this definitely affects me. And it's very important. A lot of his workers are.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

None of his workers are in the 1%.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Is there anything we can do?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I mean, yes, there's always something.

[Mona]

We can move to Canada or the uk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, vote like our life depends on it in this midterm and just build. We have to play the long game. Everything that we have lost over the last decade, something wrong with this or really over the last five years, we've lost because of strategies that the right has laid out for decades. Reproductive justice, we lost voting rights, we lost DEI affirmative action, we've lost. These are all things that 20 years ago we thought were impossible. 20 years ago, if you said they're trying to take away abortion, we'd have been like what word? Shut your dumbass up even 10 years ago. And then it just happens. It's a long game, so we have to have the kind of stamina. I feel like I got to pause this. But you have to have the stamina to play the long game for the next. You know, I mean for the next 10 to 20 years to actually reverse the damage that's been done. That's the. That's the answer. There's no easy. There's no simple solutions.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Gotcha.

[Mona]

None of us up here got 20 years. We.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, we don't eat Little Debbies or drink Dr. Pepper. I got at least 30 for yourself.

[Parks]

Crazy. So when the tears start rolling down your face.

[Joe Button]

Just saying. How you want us to pod happy with all this?

[Parks]

Set it off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I waited to the third hour.

[Joe Button]

Jesus, Mary.

[Mona]

In reality, you can barely find something

[Joe Button]

we gotta fight about.

[Mona]

It's important on that scene and set it off. You can't watch it and not cry. Every time he cries.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

The first time I still cry out for that. When they kill CeeLo with that Newport wanted in her mouth. That me up every time.

[Joe Button]

They killed the Equalizer. See some. Some Equalizer shot the out of Dana. Give me body.

[Parks]

Big jersey.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, big jersey. I'm talking about Dana. Exactly.

[Parks]

Stop playing.

[Mona]

Who you calling?

[Parks]

The big East Orange Finest, Yo.

[Joe Button]

Music industry people. They got some little article going around saying Larry Jackson's popped. I read it.

[Mona]

Huh.

[Joe Button]

It don't look like a real thing, but it is.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Where's the article from?

[Joe Button]

It's going around. It don't matter. It looks fake.

[Parks]

It matters a little bit financially. Huh, Pop? Financially?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't believe that.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying I believe it or don't. I'm letting Larry Jackson know cause I know he listens.

[Parks]

That that's what they saying about you.

[Joe Button]

This little article is gaining traction about 19 different people. Send it to me. Important people too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh. Ooh.

[Joe Button]

They talking about it. I'll put it in the group chat. It's a good read, but woo. Larry. Better come up here and clear it up,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

please.

[Joe Button]

Better come up here and clear it up. Larry. They trying to talk back bad on your name and some of it sound. Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Stop playing.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Parks]

Scott?

[Joe Button]

Yo, if that was going around about me, I would want Larry Jackson to go on this podcast and tell me.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm sure that he's been made aware.

[Parks]

If you got 19 people hitting you, I'm sure 50 million have hit.

[Joe Button]

Larry. People is reading that you my man. So I'mma tell it to you in public.

[Parks]

You seen the website?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Parks]

You seen the website?

[Joe Button]

Website? What website?

[Parks]

Of the article. Oh, you see? Never mind.

[Joe Button]

Larry, you should address this fast.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Is it a good website or a bad website?

[Joe Button]

It ain't the best. I'm gonna send it to. Oh, oh, I sent it. I just sent it. Yeah, nah, this the one.

[Parks]

Yeah, I'm putting a group chat.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, nah, that's the one right there. Ooh, yeah, this is the one. It's getting the heat, yo. The colorway you choose when you write a fake article on somebody is important. This red and black, it's intense when you click it. Larry, you my man. So if you want to come up here and clear it up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Oh, that's a nasty. Oh my God.

[Mona]

Oh.

[Joe Button]

Who could be saying this about Larry?

[Mona]

How can you tell if stuff is true or not?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Now this don't look the realest, but

[Mark Lamont Hill]

maybe Joe, what are you clear up about yourself? I know sometimes you be like Apple.

[Joe Button]

Absolutely nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's no rumors that would come out that you'd be like, I need to say something about.

[Joe Button]

Oh, we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm saying hypothetically. I'm just saying like we could put

[Joe Button]

a bleep to the we're taking table, right?

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

That you should clear up.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I got you.

[Joe Button]

But outside of that, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that it? Not sexuality, not drugs, not money, nothing. Is that how y' all feel too?

[Parks]

I. I've never had nothing come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But it's going to happen. You're going to only gonna get more successful and the more successful you get, it's going to be issues on crack is you, you know, I mean across

[Cheyenne Bryant]

that BRIDGE it steals Dr. Pepper.

[Joe Button]

I ain't read all the lipstick alleys. Clearly it's happening to you, buddy. Go on page 77.

[Mona]

Oh God, that's weird.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know he wrote half of it

[Joe Button]

on 79 on page 70.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got three pages.

[Mona]

He's had his page for years.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah, me for sure over there.

[Parks]

How many, how many you got over there?

[Joe Button]

Oh please, please know if you see

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mouse 69 on there writing about you, you know who it is.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

No, he should just say Joe Button.

[Mona]

I feel like, I feel like don't

[Joe Button]

put 69 on the end of Mouse Creep.

[Mona]

The Beyonce method is always like lit like where you just don't address anything, you don't say anything to anything.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Uh huh.

[Mona]

Because that's how Beyonce does it. And for the most part what really sticks. And you gotta think, I have to

[Cheyenne Bryant]

imagine there's some shit that she does that doesn't get publicized. Like, send expensive paperwork to somebody.

[Mona]

That

[Joe Button]

Beyonce mom was on the Internet. The next day, once they start talking about her little soup stand. What's the gumbo spot?

[Mona]

She don't get that for mommy. I think that, like, okay, Beyonce's sister fought her husband. The ain't say a word she said in the music. Oh, y', all.

[Joe Button]

She.

[Parks]

She said it. I mean, she.

[Mona]

You know, I quit. Not really, like, for the day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's hard to not address anything. But then I. I think you're right. That's the best approach is like, if I say nothing about anything, then it doesn't look suspicious.

[Parks]

When I'm not responding, I'm not saying until it causes me to say something. If it start affecting. And then, yeah, until then, y' all got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So gay rumors won't make y' all come out and speak against it.

[Parks]

I mean, oh, yo, dog, me, huh? Dude worth $3 billion collectively. Anything these peons are saying about me.

[Joe Button]

I'm talking about you.

[Parks]

Is you ain't even going to get up the ladder.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you talking about you. I'm talking about you, though.

[Parks]

Would I address certain? Yeah, I would address certain, but outside of ish.

[Mona]

Had a speech about the. Them Dr. Peps, like, stop playing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true. And he was jacket.

[Mona]

It was very. Like, he knew it was about to come on. Like, he knew.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He been prepping it all week.

[Mona]

This like, the president, the mayor.

[Parks]

He been drinking them all week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

He was bound to go, oh, there's only one left.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We need a plan.

[Parks]

Get my story straight now.

[Mona]

Yeah, in a way, I feel like if you don't say nothing, you don't bring no life to it. When you do say something, you make it even bigger sometimes. And. And then sometimes you say something, and it's not enough. People don't believe it. It just go on and on and on. I. I always go by how I feel, which is probably stupid. How I feel about what a motherfucker saying. For the most part, though, I ignore. Like, yeah, and sometimes I might come out and say, yeah, I did that. Like, I'm not scared to do. I'm not scared of these people. You know what I mean? What you gonna do to me? Yeah, you heard? I did that. I did that. So what? I think we need more of that. It's like, what the fuck are you gonna do? Yeah, I smack my baby dad all the time. You seen me do that? Target. What?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, whatever you heard about me. Who told you? Some of it might Be true. Yeah, like, so what year Joe was they talking about? That'll let me know.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It's important.

[Mona]

And this like a big star forever.

[Parks]

Years.

[Mona]

Years. I only been in it for seven, eight years, but happens. People grow. You know what I mean? It's like I'm supposed to deny some. I did two, three years ago. You. I did it.

[Joe Button]

I mean, what is all the lines you broke? You gay. You all drugs, thugs. Those are the ones where you cheated. No, you got a side family side girl.

[Parks]

Today they want to throw the. They throw the allegations on you in the heartbeat.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, I was having this conversation void of, like, that stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I remember. I remember reading one where it said, like, I don't take care of my kid. I haven't seen her. I never met her. I've never seen.

[Joe Button]

This is. Oh, that's a good one, too.

[Mona]

I see a lot about you.

[Joe Button]

That's a good one.

[Mona]

They be wearing your ass out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even read the stuff. The thing think the. The. The thing that I've gotten good at is not reading it, which I didn't used to be good at.

[Mona]

And most of what I read about you is so, like, left like, it's always some crazy wild. That's, like, nowhere near.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, true.

[Parks]

Watch your mouth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, I want to clear my man name, cuz. He was disrespecting my man.

[Mona]

Hold me down.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Parks]

I mean, watch your mouth. You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A box of that and a box of.

[Mona]

I'll give. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

[Parks]

And I ain't even eating under your dusty ass.

[Mona]

I'll give everybody one, including is once we rap. Parks, you can get two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

These are courtesy of is I just want to be clear. Is sent her, while we on air, a 12 pack.

[Parks]

No, no, no. Keep counting.

[Mona]

Oh, oh.

[Joe Button]

Two 12 packs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he trying to.

[Joe Button]

She on me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He trying to. She said stop playing.

[Joe Button]

That's all. That's all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, God.

[Joe Button]

He said that's all he to do.

[Parks]

That's going to get it done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said 50 Dr. Peppers in two

[Joe Button]

boxes of little D. Again, first of

[Mark Lamont Hill]

all, yo, some Cheetos show up.

[Mona]

Why would like, bro, first of all, Wifey got stuff for me. Wifey got this for me. It's not now. Now. Wifey double tripled up on the show is.

[Joe Button]

You can hold it down, cuz.

[Mona]

She got a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's more attractive that way.

[Joe Button]

Show is you can act normal. I mean, you know, the vibes always

[Mona]

been a real one.

[Joe Button]

HR HR this nigga's an idiot, B. Oh, man.

[Mona]

Y' all want a break?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Break? We.

[Joe Button]

No, we ain't taking a break.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is insecure.

[Joe Button]

You got a topic?

[Parks]

We don't pull a topic out one of these boxes.

[Joe Button]

Let's see. All my topics that I got left are problematic ones like and shit that I'm. That I have absolutely no basis to say, but was willing to come over here and say it.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Say it anyway.

[Parks]

Yo, my nigga, I'm looking at the board and for the life of me, I'm like, what the fuck is D. Booshki?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I only figured it out cause of the bet part.

[Parks]

I thought it was my Nikki too. He made too much money to not have good decent penmanship.

[Mona]

At least I thought it was Dee Belushi.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I definitely didn't think it was Dr. Drew.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You really think it's a B like that ass. All jokes aside, you think that's a B?

[Parks]

Yo, my Joe is suffers from the get it together.

[Joe Button]

Did you write your on the bet? No.

[Parks]

On the board. No, under.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Under where it's supposed to be Drew Ski. It look like D. Belushi Debushki.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, it's a R. That.

[Mona]

Embarrassing, boy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Y' all get the board next time y' all got topics.

[Mona]

Yeah, nah, that's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's always, always.

[Joe Button]

Anybody got a topic or no, that's

[Mona]

that Johnny had three apples.

[Joe Button]

We have a part of the show. Hey, Demetrius says, do you think now is the hardest time to make a classic album? For starters, I'm in my late 20s, but I think the 90s and 2000s was the easiest time to make a classic album. Not saying it was easier to make great music, but great music was appreciated more than ever. From radio to MTV to what? From what I've been told, the club scene at the time, you couldn't escape a great song or album because we as people sat with music longer. The window for appreciation was huge and the exposure was infectious. Being six years old and from the South, I didn't know who a Joe Button was, but I knew every word to to a song on Too Fast, Too Furious, Serious. And even if it isn't the most lyrical, it's one of the greatest quote unquote feeling songs. And sadly, I don't think we will ever get that error again. I think we are seeing the last of the classic albums. What say you guys?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I actually completely agree.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think it's very hard to make a classic nowadays. Not quality wise. He's right. It's just. It comes and goes. So fast. Now the classic, the element to classic that's most important to me is longevity. 70 and if we're on to a new album every week, I think it's streaming. Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

I think streaming killed it. Like, yo, back in the day you had to go buy an album. If you went to the store and you bought a cassette. My. You listened to that cassette to the burned in your brain. Now you got new albums coming out every week on streaming. So all you gotta do that came out last week is four new albums came out this week that you didn't have to go buy with your money.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You have the good.

[Parks]

So the attention span is like that. Because I'm not buying that we have. We have access to 20 too much music too fast all at once. So there's no time to really appreciate anything anymore.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

And I agree with the financial component too. If you, if you put your money on something, you value it more than something that you don't particularly pay for specifically.

[Parks]

And you bought you liked. It was a relatability to an artist. Like you used to like a certain artist. I remember going to buy EPMD album or Big Daddy Kane album, like looked up to Big Daddy Kane. You get what I'm saying? So you would listen to that album over and over and over, over. Now it be songs. I know the song. I used to have to tell me who the artist is because I don't even know the artist. I just know the song from hearing the a million times. It's no attachment to the artist nowadays.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I think that there's still that, especially with social media. I just think that again, if you, if you spent money money on something, even if you didn't love it the first time, you're gonna listen to it a bunch of times to hope that maybe your 17 will be worth it at some point. Now, if you don't like something or if something is like, like you never listen to that again, never hear it again, delete that out your phone and good night.

[Joe Button]

I agree with everything y' all are saying, but that think that makes me take the other side of the classic argument.

[Parks]

Why that it's easier to make the classic now?

[Joe Button]

Well, it's. It's difficult to make a classic anytime. Yes, in any era. But once he starts getting into the whys, a lot of that has to do with the field and the market. And when you get into the field in the market, I think it's easier to identify a classic today because of all of the streamers, because of all of the fat, because of all of the bad music, because music comes out 350 songs every hour because of all these things. I think when a classic hits, it's easier to tell that this is a classic versus a classic. In the 90s, when everything is damn near borderline classic.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's valid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's valid.

[Joe Button]

And the 80s and the 70s, the

[Cheyenne Bryant]

cream rises to the crop a lot more. Now that that's valid.

[Joe Button]

I would think that that's valid.

[Parks]

I would think that classic and everything wasn't borderline classic back then. It's just we remembering the good

[Joe Button]

in the 90s. There was a lot of Tuesdays where it was a lot of classic albums dropping that day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, they were years.

[Joe Button]

Turned out to be classic that day. Did the score drop?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

Like, look. Look at the day that the score dropped. Yeah, yeah, it was the score. I think it was outcast.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

It was a bullshit.

[Joe Button]

Like, that's. That's the tough.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I will also.

[Joe Button]

That's a tough event.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

People used to spend a lot more time on music then than they do now. Like, in terms of creating it.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Because now streaming games and back to the Kehlani album, like, there was pros in the rooms.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And that felt good. That felt good.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. And there was pros at the labels as A and R's and shit sifting through shit. Like, it wasn't just, these are my 10 songs. Put it out.

[Parks]

Let's see what the algorithm do.

[Joe Button]

Right? Yeah. Like today, you. Today you eliminate. It's easy to tell. Identify what a classic is. 1. Because most artists ain't even trying to make an album. They trying to just totally get rid of the album altogether. So, yeah, the people that are putting real effort into this. Yeah, you can tell. Yeah, you can tell. I think I used to have an

[Mona]

interlude and a skit on it. It was like a real thing.

[Parks]

Told a story.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, dog, that Kehlani album I bought, again, the uncut. Like, it reminded. It brought me back to. I used to go and buy maxi singles. I was a fan of the maxi single because whatever this song is that I like, give me the other versions of it.

[Parks]

You gonna get. You gonna get the rate.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Parks]

The radio mix, the club mix, extended man did the remix with this on. This person did a beat to it as well on the B side.

[Joe Button]

And. And it's just innovative. Right. It reminds me. It's. It's like Nipsey putting out the $100 album. It's like. Yes. I keep saying it's up to the artist to find out how to get value we can hear that. How to get value for the art, Right? So we can't just keep putting our blood, sweat and tears on the album. Some of these albums is going for 4.9. 699. 999. Nah, nigga, you just spent your whole life doing this.

[Parks]

And that's the trade off to those who are playing this instant gratification streaming game right now. We'll sell it low so that more people can, quote, unquote, buy it. So that back then you wanted to make a classic album. Right? Now you want a great first week.

[Joe Button]

That's.

[Parks]

That's the goal today. A lot of artists today, the goal is that first week we want to come in at number one. We want to be able to say number one album in 200 countries or whatever the case may be. Are they really artists?

[Joe Button]

No, that's commerce we getting into.

[Parks]

Are they really artists or they just rappers?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was your point, right? Some people wanna rap business, Some people make it a new life.

[Parks]

Yeah. I think it's more people playing a rap business game than the rap artist game today.

[Joe Button]

And part of that is because artists art keep getting devalued. So if artists are incentivized to fucking create art, right? Like, if I could buy the Kehlani album and then buy the Uncut and then buy the Maxi and then buy the folded EP and that. You done generated however much off of this one fucking song or these two fucking songs. Soon as I saw I Need U Bad or the Brandy record on there, two times you got.

[Parks]

You got.

[Joe Button]

Hey, another 1099 from me. There's people out there like me, people that don't mind spending 1099, 3, 4, and 5 times. When the tape used to get fucked up in the 90s, we had to go get the numbers when somebody came over and stole the tape. You had to go. You had to go buy another tape. Like, yeah, I don't know. That's how I feel about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By the way, February 13, 1996, all eyes on Me came out that same day as the score. That's like just a class. That's just a great day for hip hop.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, like that. That's. That's a hard time for somebody. That's a.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's a crazy day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What? That's a rough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a rough.

[Joe Button]

I want to say Red man dropped that day. Like, yeah, a bunch of shit dropped February 13th. I think digable Planets. No, I might be thinking of another

[Mark Lamont Hill]

dig was earlier that year, but, like, just great. Total came out That. I mean, there's a lot of great music came out that day. Like, it's just a. It was a special day. But that's. That's. I feel like the 90s, especially. 96. 96 was a crazy year.

[Joe Button]

96 was tough, period.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. 98 too. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a couple. Another one. Those might be the two best album years for hip hop.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, they're up there.

[Joe Button]

I'm throwing 2016 in that mix.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what an old nigga maybe. I just can't accept nothing after 1999.

[Joe Button]

Texas Rafael, 2012 and 2016 are. They have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you're not wrong.

[Joe Button]

They belong in the conversation in 96.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. 2020

[Joe Button]

for sure belong in the converse say. I'm not saying that they're better than

[Mark Lamont Hill]

absolutely belonging, but 94. 96.

[Parks]

I think that 2012.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

26.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

If I mistaken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's some years.

[Parks]

I think that Ghetto Boys album came out. 96. Onyx had an album out. That Roots album was out like.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah. You see it?

[Joe Button]

I don't know.

[Parks]

Well, for that particular date, it wasn't

[Mark Lamont Hill]

on that date, but it was that. Yeah.

[Parks]

Nice. For February 13th, it's all eyes on me, the score, and then it's Mad Skills. From where?

[Joe Button]

Those are the ones on that Grammy child Skills. All right, so we done with that. Anything else? Anything else you guys got to get off your mind? Minds, heart, spirits, souls.

[Parks]

96. 6. I mean, just. I'm just. I'm scrolling. The whole 96 or something, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

96 was 94. 96 was the years.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Telling you, 96 was serious. Yeah, 96.

[Joe Button]

We got a guest here. We could talk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We got a legend here.

[Parks]

We got a absolute legend.

[Joe Button]

We got a legend with good skin still. This is.

[Mona]

Man. Yeah. Where else?

[Joe Button]

This is him right here, man.

[Parks]

This is my man.

[Joe Button]

Real excited to have him. We could talk to him about the 90s. Yeah. All hearts and minds are clear.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Button]

Positive. You sure?

[Parks]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Button]

Mark, is there some social injustice happening? We gotta fight somewhere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did one. I got another one for Patreon.

[Joe Button]

Mona. Is there some street justice that needs to be addressed?

[Parks]

We gotta free anybody.

[Mona]

I mean, I do have a show next week in Detroit at the Punchline.

[Parks]

Hey, shout out to Detroit.

[Mona]

Detroit.

[Joe Button]

All right. All hearts and minds are clear. Good talk, good talk. Good time today. Ish. Congrats on part of the month, man. You do deserve it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well deserved, well deserved.

[Joe Button]

You do deserve it. It ain't like the last sympathy one they gave you this a real one. This one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You earned this Ain't a Steve Nash we earned.

[Parks]

Don't piss me off. How many are supposed to got?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Parks]

How many are supposed to got?

[Joe Button]

1.

[Parks]

I know.

[Joe Button]

I think once I know you asked it.

[Mona]

This is rigged.

[Joe Button]

How many you want, Mona?

[Mona]

One, two.

[Joe Button]

No, two. Back to back, right?

[Mona]

Oh, I want two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. You wasn't here.

[Mona]

I ain't getting no chain.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah, that's before we had the chain. The award really don't count if you ain't with a chain.

[Mona]

No, I don't. I got it and I'm trying for it. I'm just suck

[Mark Lamont Hill]

y' all hold it

[Joe Button]

down out there, man. Have a real good weekend. Be safe. Stay on your P's and Q's. Stay alert. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we have enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a new farewell. Adio. Cereva dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye or a simple head novel suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass. This song was so hard man. So let's make this one last. Oh yeah. As if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least.

[Parks]

A

[Joe Button]

call your cousin, man. Honestly, you can't just keep sitting here. Not quite your cousin. Are you gonna go to the Chris Brown Usher show with me? You wanna go together? You? I don't go nowhere. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a talent or you might need it. Any plans this weekend? Any plans this weekend? Weekend plans.

[Parks]

Anything exciting?

[Joe Button]

What we doing?

[Parks]

Chilling, Nothing.

[Joe Button]

Chilling.

[Parks]

Nothing got going this weekend, man.

[Joe Button]

Nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Nothing. Right?

[Mona]

Kids?

[Parks]

Yeah, I got the kids, man.

[Joe Button]

Kids?

[Mona]

Yeah, I got try to with him a little bit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got a little. I haven't put a little party for my. We finally decided to have his birthday party. It's a month late but we going to have it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, goddamn right.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So we going to do that for him this week. Weekend. And I supposed to have a martial arts competition this weekend but I may have to. I'm going pull out cuz my. My ankle but I'm still going to go so I'll be up in Ramapo, New Jersey.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Yeah, you should still go. Even your presence is oppressor. Like I try to say be there for that.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm sure you could probably still chop a board or something, right?

[Parks]

Make my ankle something light so I don't have one of jump on my ass. I get it.

[Joe Button]

It's Coach.

[Parks]

Coach.

[Joe Button]

I had a big weekend planned with my son, but Sin called, asked if she can get my weekend. I gave it to her. But I acted sad. I acted though, right?

[Mona]

Good job.

[Joe Button]

I acted sad. I act like, yo, how could you do this, Yo, Come on. You keep taking. That's my time.

[Parks]

And he looking forward to this.

[Joe Button]

And you know I miss him. You know I miss my arms inside.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Hit the sax on. Why not. Now, Chris Brown, you know you could let that sax ride a little more than that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hello.

[Joe Button]

Four bar break, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

It down out there, man. Until next time. Here you go.

[Mona]

I believe you. Sorry. I want to love you. Lose your daddy. Jbp. Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp?

[Parks]

I'm from the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm from the Weber Nitty Era. It's the network.