Episode 927 | "Sex Cult Pick Me"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 927 | "Sex Cult Pick Me"
Date: May 9, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Panel: Parks, Ish, Mona ("Don’t Call Me White Girl"), Dr. Mark Lamont Hill

Overview

Episode 927 of The Joe Budden Podcast delivers a rich blend of humor, cultural critique, music talk, and candid conversations about current events. The main themes include cult psychology and pop culture, extensive takes on Chris Brown’s new album, the aftermath of a music “Versus,” NBA playoff debates, celebrity drama (particularly from the Met Gala), and sharp commentary on humility and legacy in hip hop. The episode’s title, "Sex Cult Pick Me," refers to the group’s humorous but critical breakdown of cult dynamics, especially through the lens of recent documentaries.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Fit Checks, Cults, and The Nature Boy Doc

• [00:54] The episode kicks off with playful banter about the panel’s pastel shirts, leading to a fit check led by Mona.
• [02:43] Joe brings up the "Nature Boy" documentary—a story about an Instagram-famous cult leader known for promoting a back-to-nature lifestyle that led to sex cult allegations.
  • Mona: "I wanted to make sure to give the people at home time to watch it, because it's three parts."
    Joe: "Four. Four parts."
• [05:17] Mona breaks down how cults leverage social media for recruiting and funding.
• [05:36] Discussion on “the hook” of cults and how it’s about controlling people’s desires for belonging and meaning, not just sex or money.
• [09:13] Dr. Mark Lamont Hill recounts personal experiences with cult-like environments and the pressure to meet quotas:

  “We had something called turn in. Every week you had to turn in a certain amount of money… And you get your ass beat if you don’t turn the money in. They don’t care how you can turn the money in.”

2. Chris Brown’s "11:11" Album Deep-Dive

• [21:10] Joe, Parks, and the crew give extensive first reactions to Chris Brown’s latest 27-song album "11:11".
  • [33:02] Dr. Mark: “I didn’t expect this to be a classic... On my first listen, I loved it.”
  • [34:08] Parks: “Might be a hot take, but this might be his best intro.”
  • Full-length tracks are played and debated: vulnerability, production, and features (Sexy Red, Glorilla, NBA YoungBoy).
  • [39:01] Ish: “It’s a grown Chris Brown album.”
  • [46:43] Parks analyzes Brown’s strategy: “He has his fan base conditioned to long projects… if I’m shooting 85, 90% on 27 songs, I’m not mad at that.”
• [52:36] Discussion on how Brown might integrate all his hits into setlists, especially with joint tours with Usher.
• The group appreciates the sequencing, track-by-track quality, and notes Chris Brown’s ability to consistently deliver high-volume music with minimal skips.

3. New Music & Hip Hop Commentary

• [55:19] Shoutouts to new releases from AZ (“Doe or Die 2”), Deante’ Hitchcock, Suave, Kai Cash, Wale & Teyana Taylor, and Action Bronson.
• Parks and Ish debate the importance of album length, curation, and sequencing for today’s listeners.
• [49:49] Insight into the business rationale behind Chris Brown & other artists releasing ultra-long albums.
• [57:06] Enjoyable sidebar: “I’m a bird, but you a bird too, Mark.” — Humorous self-awareness about being sentimental music fans.

4. Versus: Rick Ross vs. French Montana Recap

• [85:20] Recap of the recent Versus show between Rick Ross and French Montana.
  • Parks and Ish break down every round song-for-song, noting when the battle shifted in Ross’s favor.
  • [89:07] Joe: “Tears of Joy came on... what a way. Come on, come on.”
  • Panel notices the lightheartedness: “They was up there being friends more than adversaries."
  • Ross’s wealth, business acumen, and possible subliminal messages to Meek Mill are discussed.
  • [98:05] Parks: "He owns a bunch of Wingstops… That’s where that passive money come from."
  • Conclusion: The Versus had great moments, but leaned more toward mutual celebration than fierce competition.

5. NBA Playoff Debates & Sports Banter

• [70:38] Extensive debate about Knicks vs. Sixers, Lakers, OKC officiating, home-court advantage, and team grit.
  • Classic heavy banter between the NY and Philly crew members.
  • [75:53] Joe: “Like we a better team. By a lot.”
• [143:35] Austin Rivers vs. Draymond Green spat (and Charles Barkley shade) explored:
  • Draymond’s “luck” narrative and Rivers’ challenge, “There are hours and hours of film of just you being left wide open.”

6. Hip Hop Legacy, Humility & Guru’s Post

• [124:00] Joe reads engineer Young Guru’s social post claiming “no more humble Guru” after being disrespected by unnamed peers.
  • Sparks an honest debate about whether humility gains anything in hip-hop and the entertainment industry.
  • [128:54] Parks: “Sometimes y’all pull the not humble out of a n***a.”
  • [132:07] Mona: “If you’re truly a humble person, it doesn’t matter... that’s how you show appreciation…”
  • Kanye, Jay-Z, Babyface, Q-Tip discussed as examples from both the humble and braggadocious camps.

7. Met Gala Aftermath, Rihanna & Celebrity Drama

• [175:06] Panel reacts to Rihanna & ASAP Rocky’s publicized argument at the Met Gala.
• Tyler (the artist, not the creator) and Rihanna "snub" incident is examined; panel critiques how young stars handle fame.
  • [178:51] Ish: "If I don't feel like addressing you, I don't address you."

8. Ashley Janae Robinson Case

• [187:27] Joe forcefully returns to the tragic and still mysterious death of his friend Ashley Janae Robinson.
  • He calls out her fiancé’s handling of the situation: “I just thought the act itself was really disgusting. I thought it was classless. I feel like he is now taunting the family.”
  • Mona: “It’s a blessing that you are in her life… If you have a friend with a platform this big, a family that loves you to death… they’re gonna make enough noise.”
  • Joe pledges to keep the issue of her unresolved death public until there's accountability.

9. Hantavirus Alert & Pandemic Preparedness

• [182:43] Dr. Mark issues a public service message regarding a hantavirus outbreak aboard a cruise ship.
  • "It can have a very high death rate if you actually get the infection… keep your eyes open."
• The panel jokes about pandemic precautions, PPP loans, and the “grossness” of cruises.

10. Mother’s Day & Episode Wind-Down

• [195:59] The episode closes with everyone sharing love for their moms and plans for Mother’s Day weekend.
• Music outro features nostalgia for Craig David and discussion of recent films.
• Joe’s signature send-off: “Life is a series of moments. And moments pass, so let’s make this one last…”

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [09:21]: “We had something called turn in... you get your ass beat if you don’t turn the money in. They don’t care how you can turn the money in.”
• Mona [16:16]: “At the end of the day, people that get in... it’s about where you are. You fresh out of college, don’t know where to go... You need some camaraderie.”
• Joe [28:04]: “You would be mad as hell in the closet.”
• Parks on Chris Brown’s Album [46:43]: “If I’m shooting 85, 90% on 27 songs, I’m not mad at that.”
• Joe [89:07] (“Versus” recap): “Once ‘Tears of Joy’ came on, I felt like, what? What a way. Come on, come on.”
• Ish [127:14]: “You don’t end up in these situations on accident… he didn’t stay there on accident.”
• Mona [132:37]: “If you’re truly a humble person… that’s how I show appreciation.”
• Mona [172:06] (on men who are “super freaky”): “Super freaky. Watch him. I’m telling you, girl, hear your cat? That the cat or the dog? He doing something to that cat.”
• Joe [190:12] (on Ashley Robinson): “I’m disgusted by homeboy… I just didn’t want that to go unsaid because that was absolutely disgusting.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:43-16:16] — Cults, Nature Boy doc, and what hooks people in
• [21:10-54:13] — Chris Brown album review and R&B conversation
• [55:19-59:13] — New music shoutouts: AZ, Wale, Teyana Taylor, etc.
• [85:20-107:24] — Rick Ross vs. French Montana Versus breakdown
• [70:38-81:08] and [143:35-154:41] — NBA Playoff debates & Draymond Green discourse
• [124:00-134:42] — Hip hop humility, Guru’s legacy, and industry lessons
• [175:06-180:07] — Rihanna, ASAP Rocky, and Met Gala aftermath
• [187:27-192:14] — Ashley Janae Robinson tragedy and call for justice
• [182:43-187:27] — Hantavirus news and cruise ship jokes
• [195:59-End] — Mother’s Day tributes, movie talk, and closing thoughts

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Tone & Language

• Playful, candid, and emotionally honest, balancing jokes with real talk.
• The group’s chemistry shines during heated musical breakdowns and debates, and the poignant moments concerning loss and injustice.

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Final Thoughts

Episode 927 encapsulates what fans love about The Joe Budden Podcast: sharp pop culture insight, long-form music discussions, social commentary with heart, and the irreverent camaraderie of old friends. Outstanding moments include the team’s vulnerable conversations about cult psychology, powerful debates on humility and legacy, and Joe’s steadfast commitment to keeping Ashley Robinson’s memory alive.

Closing Note:
“Life is a series of moments. And moments pass, so let’s make this one last…” — Joe Budden [195:28]

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For full experience, listen to the entire episode. Use these timestamps to jump to what excites you most, and don’t miss the recurring gems in music, sports, and culture.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I forgot what I was teasing this about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, let me see you.

[Parks]

You stepped over the food.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You stepped. Yeah, it was Unabomber.

[Parks]

Anything to paint you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're a good person.

[Joe Button]

Or not. Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Get the.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. I'm back now. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's up? Hey.

[Parks]

I didn't know you went nowhere, but it's all right.

[Joe Button]

We gonna have it out today.

[Parks]

We not.

[Joe Button]

We are. We gonna have it out today. I can tell you in one of your little. Your little moods.

[Parks]

I'm not moody, bro.

[Ish]

Pastel battle happening.

[Joe Button]

What's happening in the pastel battle, y'?

[Ish]

All? To your shirts, yo. Oh, y' all need a little Easter vibe.

[Joe Button]

Oh, who wore it better?

[Mona]

I said Easter.

[Joe Button]

I only try to put some on because I know Mona. Do the fit checks today.

[Mona]

I'm so glad to jump.

[Joe Button]

I ain't want to come in here, like, on some. Mark. Yeah, I wanted to come in.

[Mona]

You know, Mark won't even participate. He refuses.

[Joe Button]

Mark, you don't do the fit check? No, don't do the fit check. Ramona.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What would I change? Wouldn't check. Every week, it's just a different T shirt.

[Parks]

Salt.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but the T shirt. Be a statement.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, okay, I'll do that.

[Joe Button]

You got all the.

[Mona]

Damn. That was easy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a Wu Tang. Protect your neck.

[Joe Button]

What's the. What's the. Yeah, yeah. Come on. Symbolism about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the fight?

[Joe Button]

What happened?

[Parks]

Anti clan shit.

[Joe Button]

Whose neck got injured?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause I just ran out of shirt.

[Joe Button]

It was laundry day. That nigga don't run out of gray jeans.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

Greg jeans is that nigga Bag boy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I bought some new colors for the spring.

[Joe Button]

Light gray, light gray,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

light gray. And one blue.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So much easier. It's like living in a cult. You don't have to change nothing. It's just every day, same thing.

[Parks]

Y' all wore the same shit every day.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Black rayon shirts, Chinese collar, black pants and boots.

[Ish]

But you change the hats.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Same time.

[Ish]

Y' all had some pretty cool hats,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

but every, like, 10 years, we change them.

[Parks]

Oh, you said Tarboosh. Like a tarboosh. That's the name of the hat.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no. Carbonation hat. Them niggas wiped down on the outfits.

[Mona]

What's the Chinese collar like, what they had on in Rush hour?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I guess it's like, you know, like the round collar, like, band joint. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

That nigga just was making shit up. A little bit of this and a little bit of that.

[Parks]

It's crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Walking through Atlanta in all black in the wintertime. I mean, in the summertime was tough. That was the hardest part.

[Ish]

I can imagine.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Mona. It killed me last POD to not come in here and talk about that. Nature Boy. Doc.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

But I told you I would wait for you. Yes, and I waited.

[Mona]

Yeah, I don't know if it went like that, but whatever.

[Joe Button]

No, I did wait. We ain't touch it.

[Mona]

I feel like I watched it first.

[Joe Button]

No, you saw it. You saw it, and then you told me to watch it. And I watched it.

[Mona]

Yes. And I wanted to make sure to get the people at home time to watch it, because it's three parts.

[Joe Button]

Four.

[Mona]

Four parts.

[Joe Button]

Four parts. Because I thought it was three. And after the third, homeboy didn't go to jail. They didn't finalize it. I was like, all right, though. What the is this? Don't show me nothing where there's no conclusion. But it was an extra episode. He went to court.

[Parks]

They got him in court.

[Mona]

It's so good.

[Joe Button]

Nature Boy is the dude that was on. I found out about him because around 2018, somewhere around there, people were on Instagram saying, oh, it's the kid that

[Ish]

fed the deer and that fed the deer.

[Parks]

No, that's brother Nature.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my bad.

[Parks]

And then he was saying, nature. Well, I'm thinking Ric Flair. I'm like, wait, I thought that was your nickname when you was walking through the hole.

[Joe Button]

That's one.

[Ish]

That's one.

[Joe Button]

In 2018, it was a dude on Instagram that was going live, and people. By then the cat was out the bag, and people were saying, yo, this dude is running the sex cult, like, on Live. So I used to go in there.

[Ish]

Oh, see, I was so confused. But I would watch this doc.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, the last sentence to me.

[Joe Button]

No, it didn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Dude's watching. Dude is running a sex cult.

[Parks]

So I go in there.

[Joe Button]

I'm going in there. Yeah, yeah. Like, I want to skip the line you talking about, bro. Yeah, like, real activism. Like, hey, attention needs to be on this media.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought you meant, like,

[Joe Button]

every week.

[Mona]

Pick me.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay.

[Parks]

This might be one of them days.

[Joe Button]

Sex cult.

[Ish]

Pick me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's a sex cult.

[Joe Button]

Pick me.

[Ish]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

A sex Cult. Pick me.

[Parks]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Joe Button]

That is disrespectful, insulting.

[Parks]

That's ducks.

[Joe Button]

So anyway, yeah, I used to be in there, so. And sure enough, all the comics, by this time, they was on to him, like, arrest this guy. Arrest this guy. And then, like, a few weeks later, he did get arrested.

[Parks]

But what was he saying? Like, on the lives.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the thing. When I used to go in there, he wouldn't really be saying nothing. It would be more like, you could tell he had a bunch of people that was just listening to him, following him, following him. And he was in Costa Rica or wherever the fuck he was.

[Mona]

And then he did a lot of his recruiting on social media, so that was his base to do anything. If they're picking fresh fruit and they're eating fresh fruit, they doing that on live. You know what I mean? If they're bathing, breathing in the fresh water, they're doing that a lot. Because I know it looks strange to y', all, but that's appealing to some people to live off the earth. And.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, but that's the hook. I'm trying to get what it's called.

[Mona]

That's the thing that's crazy.

[Ish]

The hook in the sex cult is crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I need to see the hook.

[Mona]

It's more than one hook.

[Joe Button]

Triggering more.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't seen a hook in years.

[Mona]

You know, sometimes it gotta be a line and you gotta draw word again.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Mona]

No, but it wasn't just that as a hook. It was a beautiful woman talking about how she needs a husband. He would have any of the men on there speaking about how they need wives or multiple wives. So it was like he was, like, grifting on another level because, you know, cults are ran by the people's funds, so the more people come, the better that he's doing. You know what I mean? But what happened was, like most cults and, like, what clout does. I don't have nothing to do with that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the religious people and your grandparents gonna fuck you up.

[Mona]

I mean, for real. Lock the. Do you.

[Joe Button]

You leave it.

[Mona]

Just kidding. That's a joke. But no, like, even if you know how the tension go gets to your head, it got so far that he started to abuse people online, too. Men and women, verbal abuse, all kind of. That got crazy.

[Parks]

Oh, he was bugging on.

[Mona]

By the time I discovered him, it was already so much about him that it was already over for him going live. They had gotten kicked out of most places that they live because they lived in Costa Ric. They lived In Atlanta, I think that was the last place.

[Joe Button]

Atlanta was the last place it lived in Hawaii. These dogs don't never really make it clear how these people are moving around the way that they do.

[Parks]

That's what I'm wondering. You said Costa Rica, Hawaii.

[Joe Button]

That didn't spell it. That didn't spell it with the money because it wasn't but 16 moving around, right? But it wasn't a whole bunch of people. So when they say, hey, these people are going to come here and all of your belongings, all your money goes into the pot to take care of everybody. And he gonna take a little bit for him. But then they done moved to. They had shops set up where they moved. There was shops set up in Hawaii. They had food, shelter. Same in Costa Rica. They moved to Atlanta just anytime it was a raid. I think they lived in Dallas once. Like, anytime it was a raid, they picked up and set up shops somewhere else. No, they didn't explain where all that money's coming from.

[Parks]

Every time I watch the fucking culture

[Joe Button]

with black people, they never. They never explain it to me. They tell me where these white people is getting the money.

[Mona]

We, the number one thing is from the people. The people send money. So ties and offerings. If this exact. This me up. If these people are watching the call and they love them, right? He's presenting like we're fighting persecution. They're kicking us out of Costa Rica because they won't let us be. Let us us and practice what we want to practice. So all those people that wish they were there, they're sending 20 bucks cuz for the fight, the power.

[Parks]

I support your cause.

[Mona]

That's why social media was a need for me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's another way too. At least in my experience. They also. We also hit the street. We also used to hit the street and make and bring money.

[Mona]

I'm saying with Nature Boy, what street they hitting? They in the middle of the jungle.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, they might have been dead.

[Mona]

Nature Boy and them wasn't no hit in no street type of situation. Like, I know Mark and them. Y' all sold books down 52nd Street.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, books or you got.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how we made all that money.

[Joe Button]

Lots of books.

[Mona]

Seriously, Mark, was y' all selling ass?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was in drugs. What the are you talking about? What's happening? I said the streets

[Joe Button]

too. And what's happening in the back? Uncle Bob, this was coming home, was

[Parks]

coming home short every day.

[Joe Button]

There was nobody buying that ass.

[Mona]

They got they ass whoop. You couldn't leave the quota to get they ass. Whooped they ain't hit that quote.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We had something called turn in. Yeah. Every week you had to turn in a certain amount of money. What they say is, here, sell the books and you gotta turn it in. And you get your ass beat if you don't turn the money in. They don't care how you can turn the money in.

[Ish]

What kind of ass beating like belt this is Deja.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's a bunch of. Yes. We trigger em more so we turn. So I would give it a books away.

[Ish]

I wasn't sure if it was like a spanking situation.

[Joe Button]

No, no, Robin, still.

[Mona]

I never make my quota.

[Joe Button]

My turn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So I would give the books away and sell bootleg tapes. Then we would sell. You know, other people sold drugs, other people did other things.

[Mona]

And you just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You did whatever you had to do.

[Parks]

Incense, oils, whatever.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, incense oils work. Nobody did ac. That wasn't really on the list.

[Parks]

But allegedly somebody sold some ass.

[Mona]

Speak for yourself.

[Joe Button]

Hey, don't wear lotion. Tell oil. Oh, shit. You know what?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That might be part of it too.

[Joe Button]

You traumatized.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That might be it, bro.

[Mona]

We have a real cult expert at any time we could just ask him. Cult shit. Isn't that cool?

[Ish]

That's amazing.

[Joe Button]

It is.

[Mona]

How many times do you have a friend that was in the fucking cult for a couple years?

[Ish]

Not many.

[Mona]

This nigga's a freak. He gets a doctor and he was in a call.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you think it's cool, cuz? Flavor Flav was in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

21. Savage was in there.

[Joe Button]

Whoa, ain't that. Ain't that co snitching? He says it's a bunch

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

in there.

[Joe Button]

A man from Grave Diggers, he's still recruiting. Would you want to know the truth?

[Mona]

Y' all ain't more lit than Scientology. They got all the stars.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true. Yeah, they got us wiped down.

[Mona]

My boy got one more.

[Parks]

Got y' all wiped down. But go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But. No, I gotta. I wanna watch this. Doc, let me ask. What was he? What did they rate him for? What did he do? That was illegal sex trafficking.

[Parks]

Probably where the accusation come from.

[Mona]

It was sexual. I'm sorry, are you gonna.

[Joe Button]

No, go ahead.

[Mona]

It was, I believe it was like sexual assault. It was physical abuse, Right. A lot of those girls said that they were like, if they didn't, they were coerced into having sex, you know, and because that one thing I was saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Joe Button]

Slow down. Cause early on, there was none of that. The coat was tight knit. Nobody would rap, which is why he was so in whatever neighborhood, he would move into the neighborhood would we see the movement of the house.

[Parks]

So something's up with this house.

[Joe Button]

So we would sit wellness check. We sending the cops over there. They send the cops over there, nobody would say a word. So they would get to continue operating. One time they got locked up, and they was gonna let them go if they just signed all of their names on the passport. Give, hand us your passport. Let's just sign your names and everybody can go. He was like, nah, nope, no, I'm willing to die.

[Mona]

But, yo, people left too, though. So you figure, you know, a nigga leave, he ain't gonna go home and be quiet.

[Joe Button]

The white dude left.

[Mona]

On top of. On top of, you gotta think. Rule number two is don't talk to nobody. So when you cut your family off, what do your family do? They contact authorities. It wasn't just the neighbors. These are people being affected. These going missing. Your mom on top of the fact that the guy that escaped. Because I didn't believe that for one second. That boy they came with a guy from Portugal that came from Canada, he talking about. I went because what happened was they didn't get arrested. They were riding in Costa Rica, just taking a ride. The Costa Rican officials came, and they wanted to see everybody's paperwork at the time. They were six months into him telling them, we don't redo our passports, we don't resign, that we not connected to that. They don't own us like that. So it's a van full of people that for six months haven't had, you know, any new paperwork. So they wanted to see everybody's shit. And this nigga wants to make that a whole call. So they whooped their motherfucking asses and took them off that van and figured out who they were. But the Canadians goes in the back and says, I went back there and they just told me, you're free to go. You went back there and gave that up? Yeah, after they bought that ping pong table with his debit card.

[Joe Button]

Yes, no, that's true. But I agreed with the white boy. When I was watching it, like, again, if a cult dude tried to recruit me, and I was like, somehow, all right, let me come see what's going on. And I get there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They wouldn't have got you. They could have got you as a teenager.

[Mona]

This is a cult's worst fear. This nigga is the one that come in. The cult get to getting everybody grouped together, trying to do different shit. You rapping in the cafeteria that I'm my own cult. Yeah, exactly.

[Joe Button]

I'm my own.

[Mona]

What do you say?

[Joe Button]

I'm my own cult. I couldn't get down. Cults, gangs, frats, anything where it was a bunch of moving parts and people. I wasn't with that shit.

[Parks]

And a bunch of rules. That's all it is.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, and rules, initiations, all that shit. I was gonna be a blood one day.

[Parks]

What I gotta do?

[Joe Button]

Hey, come over here, like, and fight these 20 niggas. They're gonna beat you up for a minute. Wait, huh? Why would I agree to that? I don't. I don't agree to that. I'm not a blood. I don't agree with that. But, yeah, if they call me to be in the cult, I'm gonna be like the white boy.

[Mona]

That is so funny. I'm not a blood. I don't agree with that. I don't agree with getting beat the fuck up.

[Joe Button]

I don't agree with some of this shit. So when white boy went to the cult, if I would have went there and just snooped around seeing what's going on. All right, you want all my money and you're gonna take a little bit. And I gotta come to this fucking class and pick fru in the heat and stand in when you and shorty walk by and say, who am I? What? What was that? That was horrible. Who am I the king of? And who am I the queen of champagne? I'm not standing here saying this shit wearing feathers and grass, nigga. No, no, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm dropping out of this.

[Ish]

Out of this party.

[Joe Button]

I'm out of here.

[Mona]

And that's the thing about culture.

[Joe Button]

I don't know how they kept on.

[Mona]

So many people saw that, right? And they were impressed by that. He set them up on the steps. Steps. He got him and the. The queen. The chiefsis is what she called herself. Standing at the top of the stuff. They reciting something.

[Parks]

Wait, that was.

[Joe Button]

Somebody else joined the queen, right? Wait, see? And that's the difference between. No, no. That's what happens in black cults.

[Mona]

That happens. Please, please. Every call they start, they start.

[Joe Button]

It doesn't matter what, matter what.

[Mona]

Every cult, they start with you. They want everything about you. They want you to cut off all your. Then they want your money and shit. They. Then they want all your time to have you volunteer and working for them and shit. They already took the money you had. Now you about to make money for us. Then it goes to your wife, and then it goes to your kids. Every Call's the same.

[Ish]

Where did this become a sex cult? They was out there in wearing grass feathers.

[Mona]

I don't know why.

[Joe Button]

By the time they got to Hawaii,

[Ish]

they were just eating fish and picking mangoes and fucking in grass.

[Mona]

I don't know if it's because.

[Joe Button]

And we do have to wrap up our cult talk at some point.

[Mona]

Why?

[Joe Button]

Because we have to start the show.

[Mona]

I don't know if it was a sex call or not, but all cults are freaky like that. They get that control and they just get horny. It's just like. I think that's the whole plan. Because it's about control. It's not a sexual thing. It's just the fact that I can take your wife from you. That's the whole thing. I've been wanting to start a cult for a while. Me and Mark have been talking about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We almost there.

[Mona]

You be lucky if we let y' all in. Suckers. Who?

[Parks]

Well, I like being unlucky sometimes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'll pass.

[Mona]

Whatever, nigga. You the first one gonna fall in line. At the end of the day, people that get in. Cause it's not about what you look like or what you have. It's about where you are. You fresh out of college, don't know where to go. Just down on your 20 year divorce. Child prodigy, can't figure out your way to get. You want to. You know what I mean? You need some camaraderie.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think we should. We should buy his, though.

[Joe Button]

I had one ready.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you should buy.

[Joe Button]

I pulled him in like, if he

[Mona]

joined his pod, I'd take him.

[Joe Button]

If he didn't join his pod, he might have went down a dark road.

[Mona]

I wanted to be a Blood, too.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my. Really?

[Mona]

I was thinking about being a blood.

[Joe Button]

Get out of here.

[Mona]

I'm too old now.

[Parks]

Tracks for both of y' all

[Mona]

out of here.

[Joe Button]

Can you talk to me like that if you in my cult?

[Mona]

Can you please.

[Parks]

I'm not in your car. That's why we bump heads so much.

[Joe Button]

But you are.

[Mona]

Because you don't know that. You're in the culture.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's.

[Mona]

That's the problem.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He acting like me in the cold.

[Mona]

That's where he get up. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Be yourself in my culture, chief. Yeah, he'd be trying to. He wanted lead position in my cult.

[Parks]

Oh, I really don't.

[Joe Button]

Yes, you do.

[Parks]

No. Y' all mad at me that I don't.

[Joe Button]

No, you're a cool man.

[Mona]

You're a spokesman of the cult, cuz. You look Good. But the leader is Joey Ish.

[Joe Button]

He can't talk in my talk.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

He would be one of the first voiceless people in my call.

[Mona]

I know. He'd definitely be the first person to

[Joe Button]

hear, who am I?

[Parks]

They G them, Sugar daddy.

[Mona]

What do you make him call you? Daddy Joe? No, I like Daddy Joe.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mona]

Is this sex cult or what? I'm down with the sex cult.

[Joe Button]

We know, we know. We know, Mona.

[Mona]

Y' all all gotta get.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Please push the mic away this time. You pass your word quota for the. For the.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Cause I seen what you said on l' Oreal podcast.

[Parks]

I seen it all, girl.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, so now that you know, mute it up, huh? She'll get over it. Yeah, or she won't. Hey, she gotta get to the back of the line of people mad at me. You hear me? Take a number. Mic check. Mic check.

[Mona]

One, two, one, two.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no. Turn this up, turn this up, turn this up. Turn this up. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Lulo, I can't wait till.

[Joe Button]

Hey, yeah. Come on, man. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Hopefully, y' all are doing great out there. Hey, that's the girl for you. So what are you gonna do? Shout out to the patronies, all the subgroups out there. Big Jersey, whole New York City and all that. Everybody traveling and shit. Everybody getting ready for grad

[Mona]

Pretty.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Stokely. I went to that Stokely show last night. Hey, here you go. Holding on to your thoughts of rejection if you're with me secure you keep

[Mona]

telling me that your time is always taken Keep singing you out alone. Listen to love it's bounded with desire

[Joe Button]

waiting to be unleashed Quit breaking my heart yes, sir. 30 and up. 40 and up. 50 and up out there. Damn, that's ish group. Now, 50 and up. You gotta raise your hand in the club. Look, he mad. He gotta raise his hand. Hey,

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

This sound like spring to start. God damn it. It's gonna be a very Chris Brown day. A very Chris Brown day today. I hope you all are prepared. I was up five in the morning listening to 27 joints.

[Parks]

I sent it to you earlier.

[Joe Button]

Early, Huh?

[Parks]

I sent it to you way early.

[Ish]

But why didn't you send it to the rest of us way early?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know, right?

[Joe Button]

Because y'. All. Y' all are not Brown fans.

[Ish]

I mean, it's kind of true, but,

[Joe Button]

like, a little bit. Y' all not Brown fans.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I like not waking up at 5am

[Joe Button]

that part, when you send it to me early and then I download it and then I go and purchase it. Then I have it twice, and then it's. It's just be weird. And when you send it to me early, I lose some of the. Like, I want to hear it when it's really.

[Parks]

It would just go to a 27 song.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, I'm gonna hit him. 27. I'm gonna hear those. Hey, I heard it twice. I had that on repeat. Shout out to Dave Howitzer, too, while I'm at it. And it's right between your lips and mine. He said lips or legs? Right between your lips. Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I always thought it was lips.

[Ish]

Probably lips.

[Joe Button]

This is right between your lips and 90s.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

96.

[Ish]

That's 96.

[Joe Button]

I'm on some freak.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was in the cult with that

[Joe Button]

came on songs was freaky in the 90s.

[Parks]

94

[Ish]

still probably.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Speaking of songs being freaky, the 90s, we never did find out what SWV's reign is about. Yeah, we did.

[Parks]

Yes, we did. We know.

[Joe Button]

What's it about.

[Ish]

What?

[Joe Button]

And again, they're gonna get sick of me. But I was listening to Fold It Again, the other. I can't tell if the song is really about clothes or not.

[Ish]

That's the. That's the beauty of poetry, Joe.

[Joe Button]

I think a lot of that song is about her getting folded and her leaving the door open so her dude that she having trouble with could come back. And one last time.

[Parks]

I ain't think it was about. No, I ain't think about that at all. No sex y' all need.

[Mona]

It's deep.

[Joe Button]

No, it's sex in there.

[Parks]

I. I ain't think it was about sex. I thought it was about, basically. I folded your clothes. Hurry up and come back home. Yeah. I'm gonna give you one last chance. That's what it sound like.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. That's how I took it.

[Joe Button]

No, I think they talking about in there. Okay.

[Mona]

Like, folding her up, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah. Where's this ice? All right, all right. The applause ran out. I ran out. I ran out of applause. We talked too much. Let's see who's next. Here we go here.

[Parks]

Who is that?

[Joe Button]

It's Mark lamahill and Mona. Mona. Fresh back from the D. Fresh back from the D. Detroit. What up?

[Parks]

What up, dog?

[Joe Button]

What up?

[Mona]

What up? What up? What up?

[Joe Button]

What episode is this?

[Ish]

927.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 927 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with Some really amazing people to my right. Hey, don't call her white girl. Philly's finest, Big Demona. Mona is in the building. Mona, how you doing?

[Mona]

I'm doing amazing.

[Joe Button]

I've seen your interview.

[Mona]

What interview? Did you see Joey? Did I speak so highly of you, like I always do? Talk about this beautiful thing that you built, this platform, this humongous platform. Only the biggest platform ever.

[Joe Button]

You did. I felt warm. You did. I feel warm. You do speak highly of us.

[Mona]

I'm about to start going places saying it's stinking here. Try me. I get back in different ways. I will go on a I Smell Park's feet tour for five years.

[Ish]

I think I cleaned my shits pretty well.

[Mona]

No, but the thing about it, you're never going to bust back. You the perfect one to.

[Ish]

You're probably right. Yeah, you're right.

[Mona]

I could be like, yeah, Park's cool as, but I can smell his feet through his Converse. Joking. Never you, Park. I would do that with this one.

[Joe Button]

Our other Philly representative, Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hanging in there, man.

[Parks]

Rough week.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Rough week. I found at dentist. They yanked some teeth out.

[Ish]

Oh, plural?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Really?

[Joe Button]

One.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they put an implant in the other one.

[Mona]

You got money?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shit, I don't know. I got stitches right now. That shit was, you know.

[Mona]

Poor people just leave a hole there if they take a tupel.

[Joe Button]

Gotta be better than the cult dentist.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He was the cult dentist. He went a mouth.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. Holy.

[Mona]

Cut it out, fellas. Leave it to dark. Lamont. Never too far. Never to be even too far is

[Joe Button]

funny in this context. Anyway, I'm glad you're here with us. Even though you're in pain.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, man, we good. Yo, yo. Any y' all got any pain man?

[Parks]

Meds, bill?

[Joe Button]

Depends who's asking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I meant Lee. I'm not wearing a wire. I meant, like, I pro.

[Joe Button]

Depends who's listening.

[Mona]

We got a whole cabinet.

[Joe Button]

Does it need. Does he need to say my name on the bottle?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't care who that.

[Joe Button]

Does it need to be in the bottle?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it don't need to be. I.

[Ish]

Cigarette? Cellophane.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll see y' all on the break.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I got some payment. I still got some last payment you gave me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Here.

[Mona]

The jbp. We had first aid, which is good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They what?

[Joe Button]

They good.

[Parks]

Like, they taste good. Oh, they work.

[Joe Button]

They good.

[Parks]

Know what you mean.

[Joe Button]

And they work some.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I should have kept a couple for

[Joe Button]

myself next to Mark. Come on, man. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. Mr. Pastel himself. Big ish in the building. Ish. How you doing? Our current pot of the month. I'm good. How about you? Chain again.

[Parks]

I'm gonna put it on.

[Mona]

Put it on now, nigga. Don't disrespect the chain.

[Joe Button]

Nah, I. Voters.

[Parks]

Nah, let me tell.

[Joe Button]

Pay attention, voters.

[Parks]

Listen to your boys.

[Joe Button]

Two pods in a row.

[Parks]

Listen to your boys.

[Mona]

It's important that you leave. Change, please, y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

No, no, no. I brought you the Rocky. No, I'm aware of it. I forgot. I put it in so I wouldn't leave it at home.

[Joe Button]

I mean, let's just kill all the good equity that me and Parks build up in the chain, right? Like, just do whatever we got in the junk drawer somewhere, right?

[Mona]

We took it. So here.

[Joe Button]

You in the closet.

[Parks]

Oh, no, you out.

[Joe Button]

You. You in the closet. You out Already know what would be wrong with that if I was not.

[Mona]

Oh, God.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I know that move.

[Parks]

What would be wrong if I was in.

[Mona]

Ooh, it's Octales. Bitch, I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

You would be mad as hell in the closet.

[Parks]

I wouldn't be in anybody's closet.

[Joe Button]

But if you was, you'd be in there tight. No, I wouldn't.

[Parks]

Joe, let's move. Yo, in the closet. Tight is crazy, yo.

[Joe Button]

Yo, in a tight closet.

[Parks]

Introduce.

[Joe Button]

Freeze. Oh, man.

[Parks]

Mr. Take it further himself.

[Joe Button]

Mr. Fenty panties. Mr. Fenty draws what I miss. Fenty briefs himself. Wait, Mark, why the end of that?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No Fenty panties?

[Joe Button]

He wears fenty panties.

[Parks]

Draws.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They're panties if they're panties, draws. I'm not. I'm not trying to judge you. I just want. Why?

[Ish]

Because they're so.

[Parks]

They were comfortable.

[Mona]

He wears Fenty briefs and Joe calls him panties. Is that what happened?

[Parks]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Asap. Rocky sent him some drawers.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, wait.

[Joe Button]

He ran in the mailbox.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, he said he sent you drawers.

[Parks]

No, it's not. Robbie sent you Jaws. My lady bought me. My lady bought him. Yes.

[Mona]

That's what he does.

[Joe Button]

Are you.

[Parks]

You've been here long enough.

[Joe Button]

Rocky signed some, put his name on them.

[Parks]

He's projecting because he's jealous. Because he was over here Google eyed at Rocky. That's all it is.

[Joe Button]

That was ish. Google eye.

[Parks]

No, that was you. I see that in your ear. Oh, my God. That was you

[Joe Button]

in the third hour. The only statement in the third hour. That's googie eye.

[Parks]

I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you what happened.

[Joe Button]

Now it's back to panties. Now Back to penny panties out of here. We starting hallway with Elm's Fun. You want to see it get big? You want. You want to see it get big?

[Parks]

Say it again.

[Joe Button]

I feel like y' all almost had this hallway talking like a private group chat. Do y' all want to see something?

[Parks]

No, I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

But please, I just got to make sure this crazy. We can fix whatever you thinking.

[Parks]

No, we'll fix it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Parks]

We'll fix it.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Parks]

We'll fix it.

[Mona]

Are we talking about pulling out G?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I like this box.

[Joe Button]

We. We're straightening some of that couch up quick.

[Mona]

What show.

[Parks]

Who is he talking. You sound disgusting, bro.

[Joe Button]

He let this inner th.

[Parks]

He really want to see everybody meet.

[Joe Button]

That's really what it is.

[Parks]

Told you he was out the closet. Happy as hell to be out the closet. Meat watching Ass meat watchers showing each other. That's how he know. Oxtail meat watcher. Yo, that's.

[Joe Button]

It's cool.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I can actually.

[Joe Button]

Watcher tell me.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

It's just not funny.

[Mona]

Whenever you got to break it down,

[Joe Button]

though, it's like, yeah, Elm's finest was popping. Big Parks is in the building.

[Ish]

Sorry to interrupt that little.

[Mona]

It was a lot that.

[Ish]

That gay.

[Joe Button]

That gay off that. Y' all just had a gay off. It was a gayoff.

[Mona]

It was a gayoff.

[Joe Button]

White po is here.

[Mona]

Here.

[Joe Button]

Big Corey is here. Still in love. Corey New edition Head ass got Corey wearing pink.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn, he different.

[Parks]

Damn, Cory, I act so different.

[Mona]

Since he came from that tropical island, he's changed.

[Joe Button]

Threw on the foreign fitted polo.

[Parks]

I don't even know this. I ain't never known you own no light colors.

[Joe Button]

That's how I know he in love. He down in the gym on our off days. That's how you know something. When niggas start doing extra shit, like going without the trainer.

[Parks]

Like, hey, wait, that. That be one of two reasons you

[Ish]

gotta train for the fucking.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, get that stimulus. That lady is wearing Corey out.

[Ish]

Look at.

[Joe Button]

Look that lady is wearing. Poor Cory ain't used. He ain't used to this frequency.

[Mona]

Are you being worn out, Corey?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, look at him.

[Mona]

You are a little more quiet.

[Joe Button]

He's so happy to be able to sit here and pod in a chair and not move and not be. Yo, getting reports on you, too. When you out in. In the street and there's people around. I'm getting reports of how long you on the phone.

[Ish]

I would not want to be going through the whole.

[Joe Button]

You wanted them people

[Ish]

that all that.

[Joe Button]

Oh, nah.

[Mona]

Cory probably chafed he doing so much

[Ish]

happy for we too old for the honeymoon phase.

[Joe Button]

Cory's so happy to be just relaxing. Look. Oh, Ericson is here. Tanner and Saon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. How's everybody doing? Great.

[Parks]

Great, man, great.

[Joe Button]

Feeling good. All hearts and minds. Who's ready to get to it? Who's ready to have some fun?

[Parks]

Let's get to it.

[Joe Button]

Who heard all 27 songs of Chris Brown?

[Parks]

You an album multiple times.

[Joe Button]

Mad times.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I listened to the album. I skipped the. I had to do, like, the little minute intros.

[Joe Button]

Each one on a scale of 9 to 10. What is it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna say this.

[Joe Button]

What is it? Is it a 9 or a 10?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not a Chris Brown. I'm not a Chris Brown fan.

[Joe Button]

You mute.

[Parks]

Go to Starbucks. Shut your mouth.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not a Chris Brown fan. The way y' all are is what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh. That's all I was about to say. Y' all through the roof with it. So I didn't have, like. I didn't expect this to be a classic. I didn't expect it to be trash. I just wanted to know what it was gonna be.

[Parks]

I ain't expect it to be a classic either.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

On my first listen, I loved it. I actually loved it. I like the songs. I love the production. It exceeded my expectation.

[Parks]

Might be a quick prisoner of the moment hot take, but this might be his best intro.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's you bugging.

[Parks]

Might be the best one.

[Joe Button]

You going crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The album intro. Yeah, the intro was amazing.

[Joe Button]

Intro you're going.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it was a nice long instrumental. I. I love it.

[Parks]

Me up. At first, I thought I had. I thought they sent me the damn instrumental album. What the is this?

[Joe Button]

Where's the words?

[Parks]

The intro is fine.

[Joe Button]

This ain't his first best intro.

[Parks]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

His second best intro row.

[Parks]

It's up there. And like I said, it could be prison at the moment. Right now it is, but just the vulnerability, the way you talking on this one.

[Joe Button]

Yo, he don't.

[Mona]

He don't.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I like all this music. Instrumental musicality in the front. I like this. I absolutely loved it, and I'm letting it rock right now.

[Parks]

I don't like it for album intro personally.

[Joe Button]

Then I'm gonna find what I think his best intro is.

[Parks]

I mean, he got be clear. It was. For me, it was X.

[Joe Button]

That's the one I'm going to.

[Parks]

It was. It was always. I'm going to, but I'm just saying the content of, like, the words.

[Joe Button]

Oh, see, this is beautiful. I love the switch.

[Parks]

This shit's amazing.

[Joe Button]

This is. This is. Come on, come on, let's go.

[Mona]

Brown C is really him.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. Give it to me. Yeah, bring the snaps in. Let's go talk to him. Chris ain't said a word yet. And talk to him.

[Parks]

Not a word.

[Joe Button]

Hey, hey. Track one. Leave me alone, Chris Brown. Nah, this is hard. This is hard.

[Parks]

This is amazing, bro.

[Joe Button]

Message. I've been fighting my demons I learn my lessons I don't need no directions

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Already been out here Try to walk

[Parks]

in my shoes but they don't feel

[Mona]

right Every scar got a story Every.

[Joe Button]

This how you get the day started.

[Mona]

If you don't understand me it's okay to spine already Roll my.

[Joe Button]

Let's go then. Leave him alone. Get off his dick. That's what he should have named this song, get off my dick. But he couldn't. It's Chris Brown. So, you know, he probably tried to name him that and somebody was like,

[Parks]

oh, yeah, chill out, chill out.

[Joe Button]

You gotta change that next best thing. I think that song is fire. Great way to start a project. We got to do this just. Cuz I said that stupid. Hold up.

[Parks]

Not stupid, but you.

[Joe Button]

Come on now.

[Parks]

I'm talking about subject matter wise.

[Joe Button]

Come on now.

[Parks]

Subject matter wise.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but you was there for this X album, you know. Of course you know better than that, man. This is.

[Parks]

This is it right here.

[Joe Button]

Come on. Yeah. The rest of y', all, mute up. Y' all ain't Chris Brown fans. Hey, nah, we let this rock. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is cousin right here. Make some noise. Virginia. Let's go. Yeah, Marcus ain't J left. After the chorus. We'll get back to the new album. Sorry. Best intro on what some people still say is his best album. That X album.

[Parks]

I always had X as the best album until as early on in the.

[Joe Button]

Until the double albums Heartbreak and the long album. Heartbreak is the best. Heartbreak.

[Parks]

Heartbreak is the best album.

[Joe Button]

It's true. Here we go. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. This. When EDM Chris was out still, You just left a hot shot. This is when he was getting dubbed by the girls he was in love with and wanted. I swear to God, I'm moving on.

[Parks]

I know, I know.

[Joe Button]

But we.

[Parks]

We.

[Joe Button]

We on a new album.

[Parks]

I would never. That was.

[Joe Button]

That was.

[Parks]

That was.

[Joe Button]

Listen. His most mature album. So to your point about his message on this. On this intro, this to me, by far is his most mature adult album. So now the album cover makes a little more sense with him doing the famous R B. Luther Vandross, Teddy Pendergrass, pose the brown, even the font on the brown. Like this album, very adult.

[Ish]

It's grown.

[Parks]

It's a grown Chris Brown album.

[Joe Button]

I need to hear these songs on his Usher tour. I need to see how. Cause Usher music has grown, like, grown, growing. I need to see how Chris Brown grown. Drone sounds in and out of that Usher set. But off first listen. Leave me alone. Obvious. I loved when they put it out. Honey pack I think is fire. It depends. I absolutely loved when they put it out. Falling. I like a lot more in flow of the album because it don't sound like such a curveball. Hate me. Well, I didn't want to sound like a broke record. I love all this. Even call your name, the song I swore I was skipping with sexy red. Red. I love that song.

[Parks]

I was ready to say I'm taking her off soon as I saw it. Nah, nah, play that joke.

[Mona]

Nah.

[Joe Button]

I feel the same way about the NBA youngboy song.

[Parks]

That one I knew I was going to like. I. I'm. I'm. I know what young boy does, so I kind of knew where I was going to feel, how I was going to feel about that record.

[Joe Button]

Well, I don't want to hear NBA young boy's part on the record, but the song I love if it's call your name. Featuring sexy red, Glow Willow. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Love is laying under me. You know what I need all up in between.

[Mona]

Whisper in my ear.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, your words are safe. I ain't going to lie. I'm a sucker for anything that has the three six mafia chant.

[Mona]

Too bad.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I am.

[Parks]

It's hard to that up.

[Joe Button]

Y' all not gonna make me play. Y' all want to hear the raps? Sexy Red and Glorilla.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, a little bit. A little bit.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

You know what it was before you get to it? I ain't like sexy. The second half of her verse, when she got into, like, the little scene flow.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I was like, all right. She saved it now. Now she can stay on the records. Then glow killed it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's dead.

[Joe Button]

I agree. All right, here we go. Just for you. Love those drums.

[Parks]

I was mad here.

[Joe Button]

I'm mad now. I was mad as I'm mad right now. I was hot.

[Ish]

I hit the button.

[Parks]

I was. I was opening up.

[Joe Button]

Is the 15 seconds.

[Parks]

Oh, now. I was hoping it up to hit the other button.

[Joe Button]

Remove. I could fight gamma right now. Oh, God. Then they had a nerve to remove the melodies.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And

[Joe Button]

thank you.

[Parks]

I with this, though.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

I'm here now. Now let it rock. You already here. Let it rock I with all of this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah,

[Joe Button]

I like this part too, by the way.

[Parks]

Yeah, but I ain't need I a need to rap.

[Joe Button]

Just let glowrilla rap.

[Parks]

There we go.

[Joe Button]

Shit, let bro Rilla rap before you let Sexy Red rap. God.

[Parks]

Here we go, though.

[Joe Button]

Let's go. Finally a rapper.

[Mona]

I ain't nothing like these hoes with

[Joe Button]

they highest maladies I'm a real boss Let a nigga know I'm about my

[Mona]

beat if I let you win it

[Joe Button]

pussy Fuck me till you rather deep I be talking shit love everything I

[Mona]

say if he don't he put how

[Joe Button]

the might end up on his face I know you got a good but come and keep. My way make me mad but then again they. It must be something about dick Red

[Mona]

bone with a couple hit songs to

[Joe Button]

make that dick dance. All right. They not having as much fun as we are. Clearly they don't get it. They don't get it. We're having a blast. Get up and show some ass

[Parks]

and you ra.

[Joe Button]

Oh, we got to bring it back. Hit song to make this Jesus damn hood.

[Mona]

It must be something like me make a like.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mona]

That.

[Joe Button]

That was fun. That was a lot of fun. I'm telling you, bro, that was a lot of fun.

[Parks]

You going to hear it?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I like. No, I said I like that song. I like that song. You're doing it.

[Mona]

You killed it at Jana part. Isley, you making me like it more. You said that four times on the way up.

[Parks]

Wait till you outside and they start, hey, just wait. I tell her you something.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's when he started to leave Earth. The middle this one ain't fair.

[Parks]

Right here,

[Joe Button]

This is for the moment track a new Chris Brown. Just one of the ones, if you're wondering. Oh, my God, yo. Had to close it. I'm such a fan, right? Look at me.

[Parks]

Nah, we don't care last night.

[Joe Button]

I like when artists that you love come out and it's like an event. Like an event for you. This is.

[Parks]

And they give you shit that you know they could do. Like, you know what I'm saying? It become an event. But when it's one up there, you like, ah, this is what I've been waiting for.

[Joe Button]

I love that he ain't on here hopping all around with sounds like I know it's 27 songs. For some people, that could be a little lengthy pause.

[Parks]

But this ain't for them.

[Joe Button]

Sonically, how it sounds from one to. I don't want to talk about anything after 21 too. I'm cool, I'm cool. He getting too sad. It's a little too slow. It's a little too let's change the world.

[Parks]

Oh, nah, you bugging. It's personal. Is after 21.

[Joe Button]

Let me see, let me see. Yeah, no. Yeah.

[Parks]

And I always with Homie Blindfold, even when it dropped.

[Joe Button]

So I just think, yeah. From one to body goals with tank, which is 20, is just really consistent. Perfect timing with Friday. Great. That actually slow jams with Lucky Day into perfect timing with Friday. Like, how they. How they. Whoever sequenced this, sequenced this. Like, this is just a good job.

[Parks]

It's a flow.

[Joe Button]

It's a good job and a good flow. It plays like a playlist, which is what you want if you gonna put all these songs on your. Here. You're going on tour. You want to hear how some of these sound.

[Parks]

And he's shooting at a hot clip again. Like, that's why I. I get the short attention span. People who be like, 20, just looking at 27 songs is too much. But when. If I'm shooting 85, 90% on 27 songs, I'm not mad at that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Excuse me.

[Parks]

And that's what he's been doing since Heartbreak. I'm gonna give you the long album, all right. You might like four or five, five, six records. It's never more than 10. I don't know another artist that can give you 30, 40, 50 songs. And I'm only skipping 10.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's impressive.

[Parks]

Repeatedly.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Usually when I see 27 songs, I'm pissed off. Cause I feel like I'm about to get a bunch of trash and I'm gonna be wading through a bunch of stuff.

[Parks]

I saw 27 songs. Said this shit too short.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. When it got to the end, I was like, that was kind of fast. Yeah, that was a little fast.

[Parks]

He's gotten. I spoke. We spoke to conditioning artists on the last. On the last part. He has his fan base conditioned to long projects.

[Joe Button]

That's true.

[Parks]

And good songs on the project.

[Joe Button]

Ice is right. But this is some new age shit where this ain't but 90 minutes of music still.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's a lot of music.

[Parks]

I was shocked to see the intro. That's not today.

[Ish]

That's not new age.

[Joe Button]

That's new age.

[Ish]

It's not new age, not 90.

[Joe Button]

My first album was 70 Minutes of Music.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Most albums in that time were 70 minutes of music.

[Ish]

2004 on.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, that's where I'm getting new age from.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

That's a today type of thing where if you see 70 minutes, that's damn near a double disc. 90 minutes, it's like 90 minutes, 27 songs. When 12 and 13 and 14 songs with 70 minutes, I don't think that's. That's some attention span today. These to me, anyway, I agree with that. Now, what's his long, long album?

[Parks]

Heartbreak. Heartbreak was 40.

[Joe Button]

Heartbreak. Once I got to 40, I was like, all right.

[Parks]

And then. And then came back with the deluxe with 12 extra.

[Mona]

Yeah, heartbreak's such a good album.

[Parks]

Heartbreak is amazing.

[Mona]

It's such a good album.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Heartbreak is the logic behind that, behind saying, I'm going to. To make a 45, 46 song album. Instead of saying I'm gonna make three albums or two albums.

[Mona]

I'm him and the niggas seen me.

[Parks]

Well, I remember from some talks with some people that worked with him, he told the label, I want to put out a hundred songs at once. And they said, fuck out of here. So he did. There was a mixtape called before the Party, which I want to say was like 35, 36. Then heartbreak, like, he found a way to get his hundred songs just mixtape. Before the album, there was a leaked version of heartbreak, which had 45 or something on there. Once that leaked. All right, scrap that. I'm doing all new records, but those are out, so you could say leaked. You know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Most artists want to get to the end of a deal, so they want to get as many albums out. That's why I'm.

[Parks]

He. He not in the deal. Yeah, he's in the deal. It's RCA licensed to RCA license distribution.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Parks]

It ain't the same as what it was before.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I see what you're saying. So he doesn't need to get to the end of it. Got it.

[Parks]

So if I want to put my out, I can put my. And I'm running my. And I sold early part of my catalog. If I'm running it back up again, the easiest way to do that is with a lot of music on one album or multiple albums. Just mad chicks. Yeah, mad music. You gotta think from Heartbreak to now, he probably. He got hundreds of songs out and that's only what, heartbreak, Indigo, Breezy, 1111. That's five albums and we're talking hundreds over. Over 100 probably 150 songs.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Boy bad.

[Mona]

He really him.

[Parks]

He bad.

[Joe Button]

He did it again.

[Parks]

Did it again.

[Joe Button]

I'm pleased. Are there any more of these songs that y' all want me to play or highlight? Because I do this all day.

[Parks]

Don't play with me.

[Ish]

I just could have you play the whole.

[Joe Button]

Well, we don't.

[Parks]

No, we're not gonna do all of that.

[Joe Button]

The Swae Lee record is crazy on this.

[Parks]

See, I disagree with you. Like, yo, you like the consistency and the sound. I wanted him to jump around a little bit more. I wanted him to. You know what I mean? Throw a little bit more on there. See, I don't like that. The jump around that makes it not feel like an album. When you all over the place, that's. That's where I think it's more playlisty. I mean, when you got 30 songs. My name.

[Joe Button]

Maybe Sway Lee wasn't on the song. No, I'm sorry.

[Parks]

His hill.

[Joe Button]

There's a song. I thought the Sway Lee was on, I think. Damn, they killing it.

[Parks]

Wait, it's not you, it's me. It's one of them in there. I mean, just listen. I'm off the names all the way, but there's one where it's him sounding a little higher, like in voice.

[Joe Button]

I'm telling you, he left earth around the middle of this shit.

[Parks]

He did. He did. He absolutely did.

[Joe Button]

Around the middle. He did. He did. He did his thing. I don't really have nothing else to say. Cause I love this whole shit, so. I love it. There you go. Buy it. Buy it. It's good. It's in your phone.

[Parks]

And the tour getting ready to start. So you know what it is? You think you're gonna go crazy with these songs on the tour with Usher. I was worried. I was wondering about that. I don't. I don't think so. I don't think so either. Yeah, if I'm splitting.

[Joe Button]

Well, what does go crazy mean? I think you will hear some of these songs.

[Parks]

Well, this is the problem with Chris Brown and his shows and his tours. He has so much music, it becomes a problem of how do I. How do I cut my set list down? So. So a couple years ago, he started to do where they put three songs on the board and you let the fans kind of pick. All right, we gonna do this one. No, no, no, no. It was. You let. Y' all wanna hear this one? Judging by the loudest response. Okay, that's where we go. Then he said we was doing something called, like, with some AI shit, which Were the most popular songs in certain areas. We'll do that record with. Now you just dropped another 27 track album and you're on a tour splitting with somebody. So I think this one might be reserved to more of the hits. Hits. I might sprinkle in a song or two off of here. Not a song or two, but maybe no more than four.

[Joe Button]

You're getting more than four songs you say?

[Parks]

You say more than four? I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

100%. He just went on tour and I think he hours and when he wasn't on stage, a DJ was out there playing the songs that he.

[Parks]

But that speaks to my point is I have have so much music to do. I'm going back and forth with Usher. So Usher gonna be smacking you with the. I gotta run Usher.

[Mona]

I gotta come back this close and then don't run it.

[Parks]

I think he.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's the point of the road.

[Mona]

That's the whole point of the show.

[Parks]

Go back to his previous guys. Go back to his previous tours. He'll give you five.

[Joe Button]

We know you was there. So what?

[Parks]

Well, well, listen to an expert.

[Joe Button]

Then he excited.

[Parks]

Listen to an expert then you told me. But I'm trying to explain something.

[Joe Button]

We know the AI.

[Parks]

No, I'm not talking about the AI. I'm trying to tell y' all something. If y' all would just be quiet and listen for two seconds.

[Mona]

Excuse me.

[Parks]

No, I'm not being sassy. I'm just playing with my. Playing with my friends. What was I saying? Y' all don't made me forget that.

[Joe Button]

You were saying he back on the old. On the old tour. He used to put songs on the screen.

[Parks]

No, not before that. Oh yeah, the old. The old tours will come out around the album. Shut up, Joe. You're trying to throw me off. The old tours will come out around other. Each albums and even in. Then he would only give you like from heartbreak on. He's only giving you five, maybe six joints off of the album with a long album. That's not a lot of songs off of your album. Because I got so many hits. I know y' all want to hear 11:11. He did damn near the whole. He didn't do damn near the whole album that did mad songs off 11 11. And then he came back and he had a whole bunch of shit on

[Mona]

his board talking to the set manager. Bro.

[Parks]

I was there. He was at the show together.

[Joe Button]

We went.

[Parks]

But.

[Joe Button]

But Ice is the fan.

[Mona]

You know, he works there. Yeah, like you just related to.

[Joe Button]

We getting our news from ice this. Don't jump in and repeat what I said.

[Parks]

I didn't and I work well enough I don't got to repeat. Nobody saying stop repeating what people say. I didn't repeat him. I was giv. I was given the opposite perspective talking to you. I was giving the opposite perspective advice. Ignore this. You see what he on?

[Joe Button]

Ignore him.

[Parks]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mona]

Crazy.

[Parks]

Even on 1111 though he did like 67 records, which is did a lot of 11.

[Mona]

But he cut his other gun wrong

[Parks]

and it was short. I wonder why.

[Mona]

Thanks, cuz. You. It's not all, but I just sit on his couch, bro.

[Parks]

I know. You can sit over there.

[Joe Button]

Oh, right now. No joke.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What is happening?

[Parks]

This a asshole.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God. Hey, listen. Chris Brown album is in your phone. And if you went to the old tour, he would let AI sometimes pick the song.

[Ish]

So spin the wheel.

[Joe Button]

All right, what we got? What else? What else came out?

[Ish]

A friend of the show Door or Die 2 came out. Production is excellent. I really enjoyed the. The Nas record, the Jadakiss record. Some of the records are kind of rehashes like you said up here of Door or Die. They're kind of remakes, reflips, updates. But salute.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I loved it. Every feature was great. Like you said, every feature on was great. Yeah, I just love hearing him rap.

[Ish]

Me too. Me too. A is one of the best, man.

[Mona]

Boy got it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I see you on your ig. Look at.

[Mona]

Look at him almost that walked in here. Boy almost screamed. That's I try to keep it cool. Perks.

[Joe Button]

You did, you did, you did very cool.

[Parks]

All joke aside, you did good. Yo. That's A cuz I could tell it was.

[Joe Button]

I almost said, oh, you saw right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Take him to Sugar Hill.

[Joe Button]

All the old hoes, all the old

[Mona]

horses in my dm My grandma DM me about a.

[Parks]

Wait, which grandma? Which grandma? Know which one? Back off.

[Mona]

A look good too.

[Joe Button]

Oh boy.

[Mona]

The that ain't no Beijing. That boy look good.

[Ish]

There's a lot of younger rappers that drop projects. Deontay.

[Joe Button]

We don't care about that backpack. We talking about Mona W to jump Az Bones track suit throw that Az

[Mona]

Mona girl Cuban boy. Cause I did his fit check. Boy, I checked his fit. I sure did.

[Joe Button]

Checked a few things. Can park talk about backpack stuff now you may Deontay.

[Ish]

Hitchcock dropped a project that's really, really, really dope called Junkie in the Sun. Shout out to Deontay man Suave. Also out of Atlanta dropped the Prelude, which I like a lot. And Kai Cash of the Bronx dropped a project and you got a little shot of out of there. You know, I mean, little. There's a little button bar.

[Joe Button]

Who shouted me out?

[Mona]

Little one.

[Joe Button]

Deontay Wicks.

[Parks]

We're not playing with him. Don't do that.

[Ish]

Don't be disrespectful.

[Parks]

Deontay Hitchcock. And that's not who he's talking about.

[Ish]

I'm talking about Kai Cash.

[Parks]

You remember Kai Cash when. When the. The whole Joey Badass versus everybody.

[Joe Button]

Oh, the dude we like.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

What do you say about me? He said some.

[Parks]

No, he's got a little.

[Ish]

He's got a little. He's got a little bar.

[Joe Button]

Was it a good bar? Yeah, it's a good bar.

[Parks]

It's just a little metaphor.

[Joe Button]

I'll switch my stance on this.

[Parks]

It's such a bird.

[Ish]

The hearts of minds of the. The younger generation.

[Joe Button]

New Go. Hey, brand new.

[Mona]

Check this out.

[Ish]

And Marco plus shout out to Marco. Plus.

[Joe Button]

You got to hear this one.

[Ish]

I really like the Suave a lot.

[Joe Button]

That's the one. Hey, label, get behind that one.

[Parks]

It's so easy, too. He was generation.

[Ish]

Oh, he might be. Let me see. I don't know.

[Parks]

You know that joke, Joe Kai Cash. Regeneration now.

[Joe Button]

Good.

[Parks]

So that's what I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Great.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. This is awesome.

[Parks]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

I'm a bird. But you a bird, too, Mark. Oh, yeah, I'm a bird. I own my birdness.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I keep mine in the closet.

[Parks]

Back to that closet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm the biggest public bird.

[Parks]

Probably two in the closet. I'm a bird. You a bird.

[Joe Button]

Is y' all watching a Notebook together? Oh, man, just us.

[Parks]

Oh, no, I watch it with women.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm talking about being a bird. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Eagle, hawk.

[Joe Button]

We agree.

[Parks]

You want to.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we in a grim.

[Parks]

Crazy.

[Joe Button]

So what is that like? So what is that? Leg up move.

[Parks]

Leg up move.

[Ish]

I don't know what that

[Parks]

you was here for the show.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I know.

[Parks]

That had nothing.

[Joe Button]

We got new. We got new. Tiana, Taylor and W. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Better Roses.

[Parks]

This is the record he teased a little while ago.

[Joe Button]

This is the Ice exclusive.

[Parks]

No, this is out.

[Joe Button]

It don't matter. Still an Ice exclusive. Let's go. No, Tiana. Tiana. We want to hear what Wale did. I know, but we know that. Oh, we know the song, you guys, I still don't see how Def jam let Tiana walk out the door. Door. Oh, wait. She went back, right? Did she say she went back? I've been forgetting what people say to me Word. Here we go.

[Ish]

Yeah, this is distributed, it looks like again.

[Parks]

I be quickly forgotten probably projecting no, they ain't sexy disguise I'm coming Anything, bro but the pressure to get where you got

[Joe Button]

he don't play on these.

[Parks]

Reform I'm humbly yours never divorced somebody try to get heaven involved I'm not to it all I've been here before My album just dropped now they dropping ain't Jaws it's far for the course they never believe but that, that wasn't hers A powerful source I ran through thousands of mountains of dirt till the flowers emerge and that's when my girl that boy different man

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Wale Shout out to Tiana T wicking, right? That was great. Who else in news that nobody cares about but me? Matt Keane dropped. I. I absolutely love Matt King, so.

[Ish]

Okay. I'm not familiar.

[Parks]

Yeah. Not familiar. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No, Matt is R and B.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

R and B. This is. I'll give you a little something off it, but, Yeah, he's one of my soulful white boys.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Mona]

Your body language on me. I talk differently. You for your

[Joe Button]

man Wide ey. It back at me. Maybe I just believe in things you don't want to I can never tell

[Parks]

if I want you.

[Joe Button]

And this song is called Wide Eyed, but the album is called Wide Eyed as well. Matt Keane out right now available on dsps. And in your phone, shout out to Matt King. That's. That's all I got in. In new music action.

[Ish]

Bronson dropped a new project. That's pretty dope, actually. He kind of got back to his more guitari. Kind of a beat selection, which I'm into, you'd probably be into. There's some guitar solos ripping through this. It's Planet Frog. Abstract.

[Parks]

You said Planet Frog.

[Ish]

Planet Frog, that's correct. Action Braps.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Ish]

But I enjoyed it.

[Joe Button]

Okay. I. I want. I want to hear those beats. Yeah, you made me want to hear them.

[Parks]

And I mean, I guess it goes into the Versus topic, but French Ross and Max B dropped Smoking part Part two, which is a. If you're a French Max fan from the old coke wave days. Still Smoking is one of those records. It's like a newer Part two. Okay, so new vocals, same hook. And Ross has a verse on in there, which they. They launched after the verses last night.

[Ish]

Oh, this one they played at the end.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, this is the Snoop.

[Ish]

Yeah. Snoop Flip.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Parks]

Who am I to tell you different,

[Joe Button]

you only live once Stack rich killing

[Parks]

big drums the will tell you different

[Joe Button]

we the ones, we the ones. You must be going blind.

[Parks]

No, I love it. What a fall on the wall don't you get it made? Max be home you can hit away Joe boy born for The Center Stage 20 made backs on the interstate Diamonds on my neck like a MUFAS1 tupac hey mom, guess who shot.

[Joe Button]

They sound good on it, but I'm. I'm such an old head that. You hearing this one? Yeah, this one of them beats for me.

[Parks]

But see.

[Joe Button]

What you say.

[Parks]

This hook is from the original, cuz. They did this song years ago before Max went to jail on Coke Wave.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I hear that. And just think Snoop.

[Ish]

Yeah, same. Yeah, some certain classics to me is.

[Joe Button]

That's what I think. Yeah, I get it.

[Parks]

Again, this is more of. This is for the Coke Wave fans like myself.

[Ish]

I'm a fan too. I just. Yeah, I'm kind of with certain classics

[Parks]

being a little untouchable.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What's my name?

[Mona]

It's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that should be. Yeah, that should be on the list.

[Ish]

I want to play a quick minute of this suave record. Six minutes. It's a six minute song. It's a story. He's the only. He deserves a little bit of shot in here.

[Joe Button]

Okay, have at it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Did he shout me out?

[Ish]

He didn't on this one.

[Joe Button]

No. All right.

[Ish]

I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

It's all right. It's all right.

[Parks]

Now everybody might start shouting you out.

[Joe Button]

And where I'm from, we keep it playing. I can't say his name. I ain't gonna lie. Growing up played this every day. I had nowhere to stay but thought this tape was soundtracking my every day sound. Like that a little bit. When he was hot, he had them bitches too, man.

[Parks]

All hoes was going and I don't

[Mona]

know if you from my city, dawg

[Joe Button]

he just out here living but it don't matter he had the hood high

[Parks]

and that on my business now cause

[Ish]

I'm getting older shows with no promoter

[Parks]

for like I was getting hot and

[Joe Button]

this was getting colder but he still kept it hit and it ain't like he still ain't rich but you know how the streets go One get out and one get in it for like just the other day saying we know

[Parks]

this gonna pop but now I'm doing

[Joe Button]

clubs every other week. My song's hot Dosso.

[Ish]

Six minutes.

[Joe Button]

Six minutes. Six minutes. It definitely sounds like dot on this. And I could tell that this song is going to Be all the way fire.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah. It's a. It's a long story. Six minutes long.

[Joe Button]

From Atlanta.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jermaine Dupree is on the intro. Shout out to Jermaine JD It's a really great project, man. Check it out.

[Joe Button]

And what's his name?

[Ish]

Suave.

[Joe Button]

Suave.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. Shout me out on the next one sw. I mean, it's never too late.

[Mona]

Shout out for.

[Joe Button]

Shout out or pay one of us.

[Mona]

Yes. That works.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It definitely works.

[Joe Button]

Bring back paola. That was it in music. Ross kept announcing that he's dropping something June 12th during that verse.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's.

[Parks]

He has his new album.

[Ish]

They put a cover out.

[Parks]

Set in stone, I think the name of it or something in stone. But yeah, he put the album cover out. That's dropping June 12th. His car show the 13th. So he doing his whole Ross weekend thing. Dropping new music around there.

[Ish]

Yeah. Around the car show.

[Mona]

Right.

[Joe Button]

All right, so let's get into verses after we pay some bills. Don't touch that dial. It's time for your favorite part of the show. Prize picks time or us cracking on Mona being ready to throw that show.

[Mona]

Oh, God.

[Joe Button]

That was our off mic talk. And now we're here on Mike Narratives.

[Ish]

Motors engaged. I saw. I saw the video.

[Mona]

Wow. This park said you. Let's try it again. I did get engaged in Atlanta.

[Parks]

Thank you.

[Mona]

Congratulations so much. I can't remember the fella's name, but it was so beautiful the moment.

[Joe Button]

Did you cut off homeboy that had you folded on the air mattress?

[Parks]

Oh, whoa.

[Mona]

Take that out, Po.

[Joe Button]

Oh, hold me down. Sorry.

[Ish]

Oops.

[Mona]

That from she said take that out.

[Joe Button]

Pole Paul ain't even say things right, P. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Got you.

[Mona]

I can't trust Parks, man. Park's too loyal, man. I want to. I want to be under Parks contract. I think Parks come here and smack the out of your butt and come back next week.

[Joe Button]

It's true.

[Mona]

It is. I know you love that. I can tell my French friends. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Park could smack me. Ericson could smack me. We would have to discuss it afterwards, but we would. They would have to go to come to jar.

[Mona]

Can I pinch you?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you can pinch me.

[Mona]

Yay.

[Joe Button]

You wasn't going too long anyway. Oh, your words.

[Mona]

Come on. See this? Mind you, all the f. All the fans are sending me videos of the guy introducing me last night. Cuz he's like, don't call me white girl from the Joe Button podcast.

[Joe Button]

Said he's a watcher. Yes.

[Mona]

He's a Watcher.

[Parks]

He's a watcher.

[Ish]

Watcher.

[Mona]

Like show Joe this.

[Joe Button]

That's right. God damn it.

[Mona]

If I know Joe Button, he doesn't. He doesn't give a about some small black room in Detroit. He wants his name yelled at the Black Effect Podcast Festival.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah, take that out.

[Parks]

Hey, Paul, get that.

[Joe Button]

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[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's hate.

[Joe Button]

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[Ish]

Talk your shit.

[Joe Button]

Speaking of NBA.

[Ish]

Clear out. Clear out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yawn.

[Ish]

Oh, there's three Philly fans here now today too.

[Mona]

That's right.

[Joe Button]

Speaking of the NBA, the other night. The other night was another playoff contest between the New York Knicks and the Philadelphia out of here in four fours.

[Parks]

Wow.

[Ish]

Sweeper.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the Sweepers. The Philadelphia Sweepers.

[Parks]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

By the time you hear this broadcast, game three will have already Been played, but who cares?

[Parks]

Two, one.

[Joe Button]

Who cares? Let's talk about the last game for a second. No Joel Embiid in the contest. No Mitchell Robinson in the contest. And OG Anobi left the game in the fourth with a hamstring injury that, you know. Still watching it.

[Ish]

It was a good game for a while.

[Joe Button]

Still watching it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why was it good? Game to the end. Nail biter.

[Parks]

What? Nails.

[Joe Button]

My nails look beautiful. Up until I didn't bite a nail at all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The Sixers without Joel Embiid played really, really well.

[Joe Button]

They did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I actually thought the ball moved much better. Their defensive rotations were better. I'm not saying they're a better team without Embiid, but they certainly do certain things better without him on the floor.

[Joe Button]

You can't until y' all get a win. I'm just shocked that you even jumping in while I'm talking about the Knicks.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a Knicks Sixers series and it's coming to Philly. By the time people see this, we'll see what. What happened.

[Joe Button]

The part that has me really sad. I was kind of sad that we won the other night and I'm not going to beat Mark down about this, but I watched the game. We won the game. The difference between a team that is always bounced in the second round and a team that, you know gets bounced in the third round. Been. Been under the bright lights before. Has a clutch player. Jalen Brunson took the game over, took it into his hands. Nobody could stop him. Y' all put that tall Linky boy on him. Pause. I was really sad about the one when. Not because we won, but because I have tickets to game five. And when I keep opening. What you say about I keep opening my Knicks app? I keep opening my Ticketmaster app on my phone to check the date of the game.

[Parks]

Why?

[Joe Button]

It won't give you a date. It just keeps saying tba. Tbd. Yeah, tba. Tbd. It's not there right now.

[Parks]

By the time this broadcast, it's not there.

[Joe Button]

Like if I open air. They not even thinking that game might not exist. Is what they say in game. Game 5. Until the Sixers win a game, Game 5 is like an illusion.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true. You think we're gonna guess? What? You really believe that foolishness?

[Joe Button]

I do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You think we're gonna. Would you like to place a bet? Just $5. You're not gonna bet me $5?

[Parks]

I'm not betting on the Knick. I'm with that kind of hatred. I just don't think that gentleman Sweet.

[Joe Button]

Gentlemen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's doing the joke.

[Joe Button]

We'll do it like gentlemen.

[Parks]

That might be. That's at the bare minimum. Because that might want to win the. At home.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, now y' all calling shots by

[Parks]

choice so we lose so we can win at home.

[Joe Button]

Philly is home for us, too, though.

[Parks]

That is coming true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It is.

[Parks]

No, it's not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We pulled them shots. He called them shots, man.

[Parks]

You'll see tonight we gonna see.

[Joe Button]

You'll see. Tonight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We gonna see.

[Joe Button]

We who we. You'll see.

[Parks]

Tonight we gonna watch.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I don't like the Knicks. I know. I'm a fan of the game. I feel guilty even taking your money over this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you don't.

[Joe Button]

I do. I don't want it. I don't need it. The economy's bad. I feel like it was a silly bet on your behalf. I feel like it was wasteful from you. You paid me last year. Take the walk. I'm offering you a walk. I don't want the thousand dollars. I don't. This is a bad. This is a bad wager. It was a bad wager. You did it with pride. You did it with ego. You did it for the love of the game. The Joel Embiid called Carl Anthony Townes fight. You was right there touching on Joel Embiid, patting him in the back. That was odd. He's like. He's odd. That was odd. He jumped in that trash catch. You knocked this nigga out. Catch it and just fucking.

[Parks]

The up part is Joel Embiid came back to send Boston home, and now this motherfucker is out the game again.

[Joe Button]

Boston could be.

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

If I was Boston, I'd be super tight.

[Parks]

I'd be mad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not sure. Boston wins that game.

[Mona]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They win the series. That Joel don't play. But I'm. But I'm saying game seven because he had a hip. His knee and hip injuries been bothering

[Parks]

since he was balling, bro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, he was. But I'm just saying the Sixers play a very different style of basketball without Joel Emb. And they can win some games. Remember? They want the Sixers. Joel didn't play the first three games of that series.

[Joe Button]

Sixers, please.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And we still. We stole one in Boston.

[Joe Button]

Winning game. Still one at home.

[Parks]

They going to win tonight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Still.

[Joe Button]

Still one. Still.

[Parks]

Well, by the time this.

[Joe Button]

Thank the Lord.

[Mona]

Thank the Lord.

[Parks]

Six winning game three.

[Joe Button]

Then. Then I'll get a date to the game. Yeah.

[Parks]

Game three get you. You.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You get five answers, cuz it's supposed

[Joe Button]

to be Tuesday and That's a wor.

[Mona]

Refresh it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think six going to home.

[Joe Button]

No, you don't.

[Parks]

You do not think.

[Joe Button]

No, you don't. You're just talking on air. You do not think that.

[Mona]

Think that. He knows that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know that, but I do think the Sixes can win two at home.

[Parks]

I believe the Sixers can win two at home.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think. I think.

[Mona]

Damn, Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Part of it depends on Part of it depends on how.

[Parks]

Yo, dog, I'm not trying to be funny. They just outmatched. It's just. It's just a matter.

[Mona]

What about grit?

[Joe Button]

Like we a better team By a lot.

[Parks]

By a lot. By a lot. By a lot.

[Joe Button]

And we supposed to be. Let's wait to see what the Pistons.

[Parks]

It's like watching OKC play the Lakers. Like I'm a Laker fan, but.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And you don't think Lakers can win a game?

[Parks]

No, the Lakers could definitely win a game.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Can they win two games?

[Parks]

Two's a stretch.

[Joe Button]

If Luca was there, yes.

[Parks]

If Luca was there to win the series.

[Joe Button]

If Luca was there, yes.

[Parks]

If Luca was there. We have a shot to win the series.

[Joe Button]

I think you still lose. If y' all send y' all money to the refs, y' all have a shot.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate the way OKC hate.

[Joe Button]

I hate the way OKC games are officiated now. They are officiated and I only feel like that after watching the last Laker game. Bro.

[Parks]

They are officiated horribly. They are.

[Joe Button]

They've all.

[Parks]

I'm going. Keep it a buck with you. It's bad though. No, no, no, it's. It's really bad. The.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The.

[Parks]

The Shay is horrible.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but he could get it cuz he's an mvp. I'm mad that the team gets it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like they're the world champions.

[Parks]

Like a trickle down everybody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do they get refed any differently than whatever.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Parks]

Whatever your question is. Yes, they do get ref differently. Different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, let me ask the question. Do they get state refs any. I'm thinking about Golden State and they're prime with Steph. I'm thinking about the Bulls. I'm just saying when elite teams have the best player, I think they. I think every. We always complain about how the rest.

[Parks]

BJ Armstrong wasn't getting the refs foul. I never seen this before. Even in. In the. The. The Sean Livingston is not getting the preferential treatment. Yeah, the OKC niggas getting it a lot of bro. And I'm a Laker fan, like be clear. So I'm not Doing that. I. I think we just don't have enough firepower to beat.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, no, they whooping your ass.

[Parks]

We just don't. But they not really whooping our ass. We just don't have enough firepower to beat them long term.

[Joe Button]

But at least. Well, they didn't lose by 50.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The Sixers lost by 6 last game,

[Joe Button]

but they didn't lose in the series by 50.

[Parks]

Yeah, we've never been down by 50.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't make a comparison between the two.

[Parks]

I'm just talking about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all are OKC right now.

[Parks]

Yeah, I know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm just saying y' all getting handled.

[Joe Button]

There was one of them plays where Lou Dork was trying to do a blocking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my point.

[Parks]

You can't give the.

[Joe Button]

And then he was moving and LeBron. LeBron still made the shot. And it was no and one called. It was an obvious foul. It was just. They gotta look into that. It was a few shits OKC games. It looks. It looks away. It's real bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't mad.

[Joe Button]

It looks away. I'll wait for the 30. For 30 episodes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

As long as the Lakers lose, I'm good.

[Parks]

Or the Pavel Torres chet up there with fucking Embiid and AD they just live on the ground like, yo, dawg, you could pluck him. He just gonna fall on the ground. It's like, yo, come on, my nigga.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. Then they slow mo'd that play where the big boy boy for the Lakers was down there. And yeah, Jackson Hayes and Chad did that flopping. It's annoying. Yeah, they're too good for it. They. It's too great of a team.

[Parks]

You ain't got to do this. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Y' all are better than everybody already.

[Parks]

Just.

[Joe Button]

Just do it. Yeah, just do it.

[Ish]

They gotta figure out how to fix some of that, man. And the lead it into shot fouls

[Joe Button]

for the most boring on the planet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Expert at that, your boy Jalen Brunson.

[Parks]

Yo, he's horrible at it too. He's him and Shay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Him and Shay, they go neck and neck.

[Parks]

They get push offs. Yo, did Jalen Brunson hit you with and make space? It's bad, but I think what happens.

[Joe Button]

I be thinking Jalen Brunson is getting up out there and don't take enough.

[Parks]

He initiated a lot of contract.

[Joe Button]

I do agree that he'll do the foul baiting sometimes, but he don't.

[Parks]

He don't get the call.

[Joe Button]

Free throws. You don't take the free throw. Check his free throws.

[Parks]

I'll check him, but he.

[Joe Button]

He get.

[Parks]

You know, when Jalen Brunson just come alive in the fourth, bro, y' all can't. Y' all can't beat them, bro. He's a closer because he's gonna turn green in the fourth quarter, and there's nothing y' all could do. We just watch and see that nigga's good.

[Joe Button]

And again, by the time you see this game, three would have been played, win or lose. I don't think any Nick fan is uncomfortable. I see Nick fans talking about sit og for the series. I mean, Nick fans. Yeah, yeah, that's.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Anyway, disrespectfulness. Listen, it's time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Personally, I was. I wanted the Sixes up Satin Beef for the first two games of this series.

[Joe Button]

Should have. In hindsight. In hindsight, they should have.

[Parks]

No, they shouldn't have.

[Ish]

He banged up his knee in that last game.

[Parks]

Coming off what he did in Boston. He's been sitting out. They needed him to establish a presence against the Knicks, even to get the mental confidence that they could win.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

See, I think the Sixers have played so much without him this year, they actually think they can. Even if they're overcon. They think they can. They think they can win games without him. His knee and hip are fucked up, and he's never gonna be the same player again. And he's still elite. He's still good, but he lost a step. And defensively, he can't do what he

[Parks]

could do without knee and hip. I saw some crazy ass shit.

[Joe Button]

Okay, somebody close us off. All right, one quick second, please.

[Parks]

It was like, embiid hasn't played six games straight since, like, 2023, so. And they said that in game seven during Boston, so I knew at one point.

[Joe Button]

Point.

[Parks]

It's crazy.

[Joe Button]

I just love us doing this while I happen to work with three Sixer fans.

[Parks]

That's all right.

[Mona]

We're going to win.

[Parks]

And I don't appreciate, like, it's cool.

[Mona]

Y' all can't do it. Y' all can't do it. It's like, come the on.

[Joe Button]

Hey, you still got cheese sticks, right?

[Parks]

We got. We still got this series.

[Mona]

We still got this podcast.

[Joe Button]

And seven Just make it to five so I can go to a game. What am I saying? What am I saying? What am I. Oh, I love seeing Jay Z not being able to find his car after the Nick game the other night. Oh, that was. I ain't gonna lie. That was great. That made me feel good. That made me want to text my driver and say, you know what?

[Ish]

Not so bad.

[Joe Button]

You ain't half bad, dog.

[Mona]

My bad brokes by praising his God, that driver.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. And he eats sometimes, too.

[Mona]

What a horrible bum.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, he picked the wrong time to eat. Like, he just dropped me in the process projects and it's mad outside. He's gonna tell, oh, I'm gonna eat. No, don't eat now. Leave that car right there.

[Parks]

No, you stay here with the car.

[Mona]

In the wrong time to pray. In the wrong time to breathe.

[Joe Button]

Wait, so then yesterday, right?

[Mona]

Okay, tell me this guy had this. Did he?

[Joe Button]

So yesterday. Yesterday is the Stokely concert. I'm trying to go Stokely concert with my baby, do some romantic evening type. So the day before or two days before I hit him, yo, got Stokely on Thursday. You know what he says to me? You guessed it. I got jury duty on Thursday.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I said, yeah, dog, I didn't guess that. Get out of.

[Mona]

I wasn't even thinking that.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's why you guessed it. It's funny because you were never gonna guess.

[Parks]

It's at nighttime.

[Joe Button]

So he's got jury duty. No, it's in the daytime. He tells me he. He should be out of there by four or five. I say, cool, hit me when you're out. He gets out, I'm out of jury duty. I say, great, be to me by 6, 7. You know what he texted me? First time he ever text me something like this. Nah, I'm a try. I'm tired.

[Mona]

What?

[Parks]

I've been in jury duty all day, B. Yeah, I'm tired. Tired, boss.

[Joe Button]

I ain't even hit him back. I ain't even hit him back. That's how tight I was. So I just uber black. There you go. Yeah, some dusty Suburban pulled up when me and my baby walk downstairs with our outside clothes on. We go downstairs is or who the sitting downstairs.

[Mona]

So your driver does not.

[Joe Button]

I could have killed this man. So you down here, you don't even text me and say that. Forget it. Anyway. You sound like privilege. You sound like privilege. Problem.

[Parks]

Privilege. It's privilege.

[Joe Button]

Why they act like privilege? People can't get pissed off.

[Mona]

You can't do it public.

[Parks]

You can't. You just can't tell nobody. You can't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody in the world, poor people.

[Parks]

Yo, yo, my Ferrari was up. I had to go take the road. I didn't even feel like bringing out the Rolls in the snow.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Or when people trying to figure out, do I get the kids nuggets or get gas to get the nuggets.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Are sitting at the bus because they

[Joe Button]

ain't got enough gas to get to work.

[Mona]

Why you elitist ass pick. Which Suburban you want to get into. Uppity.

[Parks]

Yeah, it's levels, my nigga.

[Joe Button]

Yo, they gotta fix that uber black. When I press uber black truck, I expect a black truck to pull up. Not a dirty truck. That's ash gray. Or a Honda Odyssey with some drunk lady driving. She was mad. I canceled that shit. I canceled that shit. Standing right in front of her windshield too. Nevermind. They don't like that shit. They don't like that shit. That's second on the list to when you ask the McDonald's worker for extra sauce.

[Parks]

Right under that, it's 25 cent. That's the hood. Yo, if you don't give me that.

[Joe Button]

Fuck no. That's McDonald's.

[Parks]

Oh, no, no, no, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not.

[Joe Button]

That's the hood shit up the street, they do that sometime.

[Parks]

That's the hood.

[Joe Button]

That's the hood. That's the hood. McDonald's.

[Parks]

That's the hood. McDonald's.

[Joe Button]

We got to reclassify what the hood is. That can't be the hood.

[Ish]

Nothing hood about that McDonald's at all.

[Parks]

Okay? Yes, it is.

[Joe Button]

McDonald's ownership is hood. It's the ownership.

[Parks]

Got a point is what it is.

[Joe Button]

Got a point. Stupid ass shake machines. But they still got the best chocolate chick.

[Mona]

But they never.

[Joe Button]

And the fish filet and the fries.

[Mona]

The fish filet something.

[Joe Button]

The fish filet and the McChicken.

[Mona]

Don't add lettuce and tomatoes to that motherfucker.

[Joe Button]

No tomato deluxe.

[Mona]

Good time.

[Joe Button]

Honestly.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You're right.

[Mona]

Shit.

[Joe Button]

All right. Out there. I know it's the moment you've all been waiting for. Versus this time. I know you've been waiting to hear us talk about versus. And we're not gonna disappoint. So I got out the Stokely concert and got in my car and fucking.

[Ish]

It's time.

[Joe Button]

Versus what's happening?

[Ish]

Look at you.

[Joe Button]

Actually, that's not true. I got in my car and went to Complex Live and it said an event starting soon. I'm like, yo, these are late. These. But anyway, they got started and I watched it. That's all I got for you. I'm tossing it to my panel. Yeah. I don't have absolutely nothing to say about verses. I'm not going to say nothing.

[Parks]

That.

[Joe Button]

That anything I have to say will give me an uncomfortable phone call from somebody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just pulling up the matchups. But it Was more competitive.

[Parks]

Ah,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

no.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Mona]

It was

[Ish]

time.

[Joe Button]

I want.

[Ish]

I want to preface this by saying I'm a huge French Montana fan. And if you were outside in that era, 2012, 2013, that era, French has

[Joe Button]

fucking banged on fire.

[Ish]

That being said, it's different. It was a lot of like hooks and bridges that he had to play for a record round.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Ish]

And that to me was not going to get it done. Versus Russ, who has a very long, deep, incredible catalog of hits, of B sides, of features. It is a tough matchup.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The.

[Parks]

It wasn't. Yo, fam, I'm gonna keep it.

[Ish]

I had French one in the first

[Parks]

two, but then I was French up by the time again. I wasn't keeping track of what round we were on. But as I'm just watching, I'm like.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like French is winning the fans on, you know, through Complex. The fans voted on. They voted and they voted French to win a 10 to 9.

[Joe Button]

That's how you know French didn't win because Complex said he won.

[Parks]

I'm with you. And I don't like how they did

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

one of the rankings. They had unforgettable beating. I gotta pull it up.

[Joe Button]

But Devil in the new joint.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, get the out of here.

[Joe Button]

Shot caller round one versus I'm not a star. They have shot call caller winning.

[Ish]

I had that one winning too.

[Parks]

I had shot caller winning.

[Joe Button]

I had that Shot Caller does not beat. I'm a star in any universe to me. But to me it does too. Have at it. Work Remix vs Devil is a lie. Give it to French. Work remix.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Work Remix.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Ever since you left me versus I'm a boss. We don't even have to discuss all the way up versus Aston Martin music. We don't need to discuss.

[Parks]

You want to talk about his little, little, little, little jabs in.

[Ish]

In there is Drake Shade.

[Parks]

Yeah, the little Drake Shade.

[Ish]

I mean the whole crowd say that part anyway.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I mean, like. Like he said. He said if y' all want y'.

[Parks]

All. Y' all feel playing without his vocals.

[Ish]

I thought it was classy Shade though.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Cuz he could have easily just cut that part out.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

Or said some foul. You said if y' all like it, you sing it.

[Joe Button]

But we have loyal remix versus Dice Pineapples.

[Parks]

I had Loyal winning that.

[Ish]

Absolutely not. I didn't even know that French versus existed.

[Joe Button]

Respectfully diced pineapples. Sorry, sorry. Loyal.

[Ish]

I love Loyal, but I just don't know that version.

[Joe Button]

Mo Chicken versus the Angels remix. And this is when it Started to get bad.

[Parks]

All right.

[Joe Button]

This is when it started to get Angels remix wins for me.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Parks]

But it was angels remix because he used that to. To pour his bel Air.

[Joe Button]

No, I got it.

[Parks]

And with me, you know, I got it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Either way, that's a dub could have played. He could have isolated either record. It would have been a dub for me. No stylist versus hustling. Let's not waste no time here. Ain't worried about nothing Versus Rich forever. Magnificent.

[Parks]

Ain't worried about nothing.

[Joe Button]

Ain't worried about nothing. They have winning.

[Ish]

I don't.

[Parks]

So did I. I don't.

[Ish]

And I like that record. But that whole section, even no stylist, I was like, oh, let's go, let's go. French. Let's go, let's go.

[Joe Button]

And then Rich forever and magnificent or bangers. Come on, man.

[Ish]

Sorry.

[Joe Button]

I thought it started to be abused.

[Parks]

At this point, I. I have just. I'm kind of online with what the.

[Joe Button]

What the. What the vote say I'm a. Then we have I'm a Coke boy. I'm a Coke. First of all, for him to play Rich forever, he gets a win for me. Because now, mind you, Ross has already done this verses, so he done ran through the gauntlet. So for him to be able to have B sides that are classics that you can play album cuts. Yeah, that's important. That's important.

[Parks]

Matchup. Matchup is still important.

[Joe Button]

And magnificent is magnificent. That's one of my favorite Ross records.

[Parks]

That's one of one of my favorite Ross albums all the time.

[Joe Button]

I'm a coke boy. Verse this says I'm not a star. G Played it twice. I'm leaving. Diamond Coke boy Lock jaw versus tears of joy. Once tears of joy came on, I felt like, what? What a way. Come on, come on.

[Parks]

Yeah. I don't get. I don't get how they had lock joy with it.

[Joe Button]

That's tears of Handily too. He pulled tears of joy out on a versus stage and they gave that 30 seconds. They don't know what they doing. They don't know what they do. I almost want the intro to part with tears of joy. There's never a time where tears of joy comes on and it don't work.

[Parks]

It don't stop.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

And that's the. That's the trick about having these that have classic albums. Classic album means classic B side.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And a classic B side is a. A side.

[Parks]

To. To most artists. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Joy Br. I was like, all right, we playing games. Okay, so French comes back. Hot remake remix to MC Hammer versus MC Hammer. Stop it.

[Parks]

I had that. I had that at Hot Remix.

[Joe Button]

Are you biased?

[Ish]

I have that one too.

[Joe Button]

I'm not biased.

[Parks]

Are y' all crazy?

[Joe Button]

What are we doing?

[Parks]

Was y' all outside when Hot Remix came out?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Parks]

In the French verse? In the remix?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Parks]

Like, what are we talking about?

[Joe Button]

Stop it.

[Parks]

That was everywhere.

[Mona]

Maybe.

[Ish]

I'm willing to admit that. Maybe bias or nostalgia on my part. I'm okay with that.

[Joe Button]

I was there.

[Parks]

I don't give a. About you. Whatever you want. I was there. I remember when that was begging French. When Hot. When Hot was out, was begging French to do the remix before he even did it.

[Joe Button]

They may have been begging him, but people were also begging DJs to not play the French version.

[Parks]

I don't remember that.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I do. I do.

[Parks]

I don't remember that.

[Mona]

And that.

[Joe Button]

Cuz that was the time when French kept putting verses on.

[Mona]

Yes. And it was annoying.

[Joe Button]

And we wanted to hear the smirk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Murder.

[Joe Button]

French kind of inserted himself into that mix. At least in melody. That was the vibe.

[Parks]

Well, I. Again, I wasn't.

[Joe Button]

But there's no world to me. Hot Remix, MC Hammer. Come on, come on, let's not be silly. All right, next. He did. Don't panic. Ross did. Here I am.

[Parks]

Not even close.

[Joe Button]

Here I am. Not fair.

[Parks]

Not fair.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. French just pulled. He pulled out. Freaks.

[Parks]

I said I. I versus nine piece. It's going to be one of the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

records you need to hear.

[Joe Button]

Stop it. Yo, stop. What are we doing?

[Parks]

Doing.

[Joe Button]

Then he did Sanctuary Mopstick. All I do is win BMF at this point. These were just friends hanging out.

[Mona]

Yeah, Humiliate.

[Joe Button]

No, but they were. No, but not even. Cuz they were supporting each other. They was loving on each other.

[Parks]

Max running back and forth between both sides, tapping. Everybody up over here.

[Joe Button]

Max B. I'm not going to lie to you, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

When Rebecca came out. Well, no, people might have been. Did you see the verses?

[Parks]

I saw the verses. I'm asking you. You said when Rebecca came out.

[Joe Button]

Do you know who Rebecca was?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You don't want to talk about it?

[Parks]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

I can't be the only one that's seen it.

[Ish]

I'm not familiar. Care to expound?

[Joe Button]

Max B chased Rebecca all over him.

[Parks]

No, no, no, no, no, no, wait.

[Joe Button]

No, no.

[Parks]

That's not how it happened.

[Joe Button]

That's exactly what the fuck happened.

[Parks]

That's not what happened.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Roy said, hey, hey, Rebecca come out here and throw some ass real, real quick. And she can't put that on a. That been locked up for 18 years. He said.

[Parks]

He said, throw it on French. French said, nah.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah.

[Parks]

My man just came home. Throw it on him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but that was the front. Cause French is about to be married to. So French days of doing that is done. But French we remember. Oh, no, French, we remember before you found royalty, know.

[Parks]

And yeah, I'm moving right?

[Joe Button]

So he said, so get on my man. And boy, did the stiffy come out. Hey, for the rest of the verses, I was done watching French and now I'm just watching Rebecca sit. You ever get a front row seat to see somebody send somebody head like that?

[Parks]

I did that before.

[Joe Button]

We've done that before. Yo, I hate when I did this before and nobody told me nobody did this before. It's helped me help your man, yo. Hey, Max, keep it cool, yo. Keep it. Keep it cool. She was looking nice too. She was doing that little bite the lip thing to the camera that just look all right. My girl trying to show me some meme too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm like,

[Joe Button]

hey, my girl's trying to talk to me.

[Parks]

Yo, I just wanna play it all.

[Joe Button]

That's the skit girl. We know that. Damn girl you married. I know what? Shoot, they leaving verses.

[Parks]

No, you're married. You're married.

[Joe Button]

You're.

[Parks]

Man. Ross was on one all night, though.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Parks]

That's why I tweeted. I said it had to be the Molly or something. Not putting the allegation. But he was all. He was on one all night, licking his lips at shorty in the crowd like, yo, come here. You, you, you, you, you.

[Joe Button]

I want to talk about Ross. But back to Max be chasing Rebecca all around the stage or whatever her name is. Rosie, I've forgotten that now. But I did think of Mark. I thought of Mark. Cause Mark a few pods ago, audience came up with one of my favorite pod topics ever. That because this whole room is pussy. We never broached it. We never got to talk about it. But Mark said when you throw it back in the pool. Oh, yeah, you remember what you said off camera? So that's why. That's why I throw the mark up.

[Parks]

That's what that was.

[Joe Button]

Cause Ross Lake come on out here and let his man have some fun. At the end, you could tell where she was going and where she was headed. I seen Max B almost switch sides mid versus almost.

[Parks]

The was over there.

[Joe Button]

He was with the D.J. yeah, I ain't see him next to French for the rest of the night. Once that little thing came, you seen

[Parks]

shorty, had the MMG cup. She holding the Ross book. You see what. You know what time it is.

[Mona]

What time it is?

[Parks]

Yo, you know what time it is.

[Ish]

Ross is smooth, but get up.

[Parks]

Don't send her. He just came home.

[Joe Button]

You can send her. When you know she going, you know what she doing. Go ahead. You ain't even got to keep that feel good when you ain't even got to keep an eye on it. Go ahead, girl. Go ahead, girl.

[Parks]

You know what you're doing. Go have your fun.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead. It's whistle.

[Parks]

What's she going when it's over?

[Ish]

Talk about.

[Joe Button]

So then from that point where all I do is win and be a mess, I thought this thing was over. They was just busy being friends. He plays Unforgettable versus Devil in a New Dress.

[Ish]

Unforgettable wins that.

[Parks]

Unforgettable wins. Just in terms of French versus it

[Joe Button]

don't win when it come on. And French got three words on it.

[Parks]

That's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

It just wins because of the record.

[Ish]

But that was the overall thing with his set in general, like, all the

[Parks]

way up and a bridge.

[Joe Button]

And then he did Choppa Choppa Down. I love that record. New York Classic. And they both did pop great. They both did state scheming. They both did Minx in Miami, and they both did Smoking Part two. They was up there being friends and really, really, really loving each other. So.

[Parks]

Which I'm not mad at.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at.

[Parks]

Like I said, this is a joint concert from two people that you probably won't see together.

[Joe Button]

Because when I'm home making y' all be adversaries with the music, right? You play a song, I'm like, ooh, that song. Tough. Ooh, that song. And y' all up there just, oh, go ahead. Play your joint, man.

[Parks]

Oh, we support.

[Mona]

We love you.

[Parks]

We did record together.

[Joe Button]

Get the out of here, man.

[Parks]

What I.

[Joe Button]

Somebody talk some.

[Parks]

What I will say. Yeah, well, no talking. What I will say. I like about this verse is, though, when Ross did the. He took the break. He did the Magnificent. And what was the second record with Magnificent? Magnificent.

[Ish]

The other Rich Forever.

[Parks]

I'm sorry. Angels remix with me. You know, I got it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

French said, oh, you did two records. All right, bet. And I saw him over talk. I like when I see talking to the dj, like, yo, all right, yo, we pull.

[Ish]

We.

[Parks]

We pulling an audible. We not Just going down a playlist. Oh, that's what he did.

[Joe Button]

It was a lot of those conversations.

[Parks]

I like. I like that, though. I like it too. I like that. I like that in the verses.

[Joe Button]

It was some scurrying.

[Parks]

No, I just like it when you, when you.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Parks]

You taking it seriously enough that you want to be competitive. Like, we. Ja did that against. Oh, that's what you did. His whole shit up there. Like, like, no. So I think it's. I like that. I don't. I don't like the. Yo, these my 20. I'm doing this. I don't care what you do over there. I'm just running through this list and getting out of here. I hate that.

[Joe Button]

I'm going to stop. Look, Rick Ross look like the richest in the universe. He looks so rich. I almost stopped eating Wingstop. Can't support that.

[Parks]

Can't support that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he got the, the, the. The weirdo finger ring on that a bunch of pods ago. I asked y', all, hey, if I went and got this type of ring, would y' all laugh?

[Ish]

I didn't know you said.

[Joe Button]

And y' all laughed. The shit y' all say, of course we gotta laugh. Yeah, yeah, Dash, y'.

[Parks]

All Dash.

[Joe Button]

Write that down. Yeah. And he up there with the ring on. My girl's like, don't you dare. You would wear something like that. Sassy ass nigga, whatever the fuck she was saying.

[Parks]

I mean, that shit look crazy on him too, to me.

[Joe Button]

But he looked good. He looked good.

[Parks]

I'm just saying, that ring, that ring,

[Joe Button]

he had the willie. The Willie Adidas on the shades. He Beijinged properly.

[Parks]

He did it right.

[Joe Button]

He looked good.

[Parks]

He promoted. Cause you know, one thing Ross gonna do is promot.

[Joe Button]

Where is Rick Ross getting all of this money?

[Parks]

He got a bunch of investments. Got a bunch of bricks. That's where that passive money come from.

[Mona]

Yeah, man, he used to roof.

[Parks]

Seriously, he owned a bunch all them

[Mona]

years laying tall up on the roof.

[Joe Button]

What do you own? Come on.

[Parks]

I forgot the numbers now, but he's gone through a.

[Joe Button]

He got Wingstop. Oh, yeah.

[Parks]

They own a bunch of wing stops.

[Joe Button]

You right. The list did come out with all of the things that Rick Ross owns. It was a long list of things.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm gonna pit him into just having all the MMG money forever.

[Parks]

Oh, he see the little shot.

[Joe Button]

Do we hit a shot? Every dollar I see him with, I

[Parks]

think, oh, man, you ain't hit a shot.

[Ish]

No, what he said.

[Parks]

I swear. Maybe this is a reach. I swear he threw a Shot at Meek in there.

[Ish]

What'd he say?

[Parks]

He played I was with me. You know, I got it. And he was like. Like, shout out, Jay Z. And then he was like, I could never hate on a that did what That I could never hate on a that did what he did for me. Something like that, cuz. You know the me.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He was like, yo, I could never be the hate on somebody that did this for.

[Ish]

Did they just do an album together?

[Joe Button]

That was Meek and Ross two years.

[Parks]

Two years ago.

[Joe Button]

Might be three years ago now.

[Parks]

Might be three years.

[Joe Button]

Ross don't give hater to me, though.

[Ish]

No, he don't.

[Parks]

He don't.

[Ish]

He don't. I don't at all, actually.

[Joe Button]

He also don't give sub to me Subliminal. Anytime he's ever dissed somebody to me, it's been direct. When he was talking to Birdman, it was direct. When he was talking to 50, it was direct. I don't when did. When he was talking to whoever he was ever talking to, to me, it was direct.

[Mona]

Drop subs.

[Parks]

We still got ties.

[Joe Button]

Who is he?

[Mona]

Subbed his baby mom.

[Joe Button]

Everybody subbed their baby mama.

[Parks]

We still got time.

[Joe Button]

You got to sub.

[Parks]

Your baby mom still got ties. He can't really just shoot up with Meek.

[Mona]

Why not?

[Joe Button]

I think he got nothing but love for Meek.

[Parks]

That's it. Might or I might. This might be my way of saying I disagree with what Meek is doing.

[Mona]

Right, cuz? What? Who else was he talking about?

[Parks]

The way he said it, like, his tone was saying, I can't, y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Parks]

Somebody's doing that. And I could never do that. That's how I took it.

[Joe Button]

I agree with you. That his tone. Now that you say that.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

When I heard it, I was. Was like. And the only person that came to mind was Meek.

[Joe Button]

Russ marketing just works on me. I don't know. That nigga's cool as a fan.

[Parks]

He is.

[Joe Button]

He is super, super good dude.

[Parks]

And he always. He always look hilarious. He always looked polished. So that matters. Ross always look. And they could be down on his last dollar. You would never know it, cuz. He always just look polished.

[Joe Button]

I'm at home adding up the houses in his portfolio.

[Ish]

Don't forget to catch house.

[Parks]

Don't forget the plane. And they got the new plane.

[Joe Button]

And the plane. What is that, the G5? The. The G550 with the 600 interior. Interior.

[Parks]

He going back and forth with murder and Yayo. Did y' all see what. All right. I ain't see it. He said he was like yeah, this because they, they, they dissed him. Dissed him for the verse. They said, you know, we supporting French. We're not with that for Ross. And he, he posted, he was standing in front of the plane. It was like, see that black? That's Uncle Murder black right there. He was like, I paid an extra half a mil just to make it that black. That's your black. I ain't get the cheeky part, what he meant by cheeky because he kept saying like, yeah, this like murder is cheeky or something. I understand. But he's hilarious though. Ross is a comedian underneath all everything else.

[Joe Button]

Dead ass Ross got a lot of money.

[Parks]

Yeah, that look like it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

MMG sold a lot of records. It look like it.

[Ish]

So did Wingstop.

[Parks]

He ain't got it.

[Ish]

He, he a lot of.

[Joe Button]

That's why when Drake. Now Drake in the money wars is unfair, right? But when Drake and him were shooting and Drake put up a picture of his little. He put up the little. The lot that he bought. Cuz Ross is building his. I, I build it ground up. You bought it renovated. So he bought the land on Star Island. And Drake going to post a big picture. The whole you squeezed in between your neighbors. Hey, it looks like you have room for a very tiny bully.

[Parks]

That's what Drake said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Drake was going crazy like a content creator.

[Joe Button]

Drake in the money wars. Oh, shitty daddy was a content house.

[Parks]

Drake is the pettiest. When he get in that bag, you can't really with him. When he get in that bag, you got to leave him alone. He said it looks like, like you're

[Joe Button]

building a content house to Ross. But when I seen it, I was like, that's a flop look.

[Parks]

All right, you going start selling, nigga,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

that's the house of my dreams.

[Parks]

He did that pool party talking about something that Airbnb lit.

[Joe Button]

Yo, that different, bro.

[Parks]

Hey, yo, that different. You got rapper brain.

[Joe Button]

Andy Rich, man. What? Yo, keep it real with me as my friend. Do y' all think I'm getting dissed on Iceman?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Parks]

Th percent yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Parks]

I don't think so. I think he might. What's that? What's that? What's the. The. Where you chew the poly mark? Yes, I'm, I'm here. Maybe a sub, but I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

You know, I was talking to somebody that I can't say publicly who I was talking to was out having a little time and they were telling me mean that they heard something that's not coming out from him. Yeah. And it was A naked in the hallway reference.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And are you sure it's not coming out?

[Joe Button]

I was so happy that that wasn't coming out.

[Parks]

It might come out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Are you confident that you got Iceman

[Parks]

coming out before playing on the new ice? What's the Iceman?

[Ish]

It then send that over my way. At least I get laugh.

[Joe Button]

Just DM it. I got you.

[Parks]

And if he did it clever, you think he wasn't.

[Ish]

Yeah, he definitely did it clever.

[Parks]

It's good marketing.

[Joe Button]

A naked in the hallway. This is crazy.

[Ish]

That's funny.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's good.

[Parks]

It's great marketing.

[Mona]

Who cares?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just we wouldn't laugh.

[Parks]

Yo, dog. Going to go down just to hear it. I need that to drop. I'm not even. I'm going to keep it a buck. That's going to be the name of the song.

[Ish]

Naked in the hallway.

[Joe Button]

Naked in the hallway at 6am I don't think. Oh, 6am in the hallway.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

AM in New Jersey.

[Parks]

That's funny.

[Joe Button]

6am in the hallway.

[Parks]

That is funny.

[Mona]

Naked ass is on one of the biggest rappers ever.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Mona]

He's thinking about you being naked in the hallway.

[Parks]

No, we not now. Don't help him.

[Joe Button]

And it's all alleged. This is here hearsay, you guys. There's no con.

[Parks]

I want to hear it so I can.

[Joe Button]

The person that told me though say it. I believe him. Yeah, yeah. The person that told me I believe him. I. I think that there is something we know. I think there's something that you don't know who it is. You have no idea who it is.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ish]

He probably got birdies too.

[Parks]

Don't tell him nothing he do.

[Joe Button]

Keep a birdie. Phony ass nigga always talking to people.

[Parks]

I'm phony.

[Joe Button]

Wait, why you got so many birdies?

[Parks]

You told me you phone calls if I'm outside, they from people I don't want to talk to. All right? That's why they got your number.

[Joe Button]

You be wanting to talk to people

[Ish]

they got if they got tea.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah. What if it's some tea and he outside there was tea.

[Joe Button]

No, I want some tea.

[Parks]

We know.

[Joe Button]

I want some ish tea. I got some ish tea.

[Parks]

You don't have no ish tea. That's some Lipton you got. Whoa, whoa.

[Joe Button]

Lifting, lifting his tea.

[Parks]

It's trash tea.

[Joe Button]

It's fake too good for lip. Now my tea might be trash that I have on you. Which means it's I had lip. Trash and fake don't mean the same.

[Mona]

Lip is my favorite tea.

[Parks]

We not dissing liping.

[Ish]

It's Is basic. Very clearly.

[Joe Button]

Ice is a lifted

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

too.

[Mona]

Actually, I like lifting.

[Ish]

Word.

[Parks]

I'm with you.

[Mona]

So. Because y', all, it makes sense. Cuz I don't want no green tea, no English tea. I like lifting.

[Joe Button]

The sound of your gray. The sound of your voice should have deterred you from all lifting. Like lifting ain't helping things.

[Parks]

And our voice is saved. Oh, now I'm not with lifting. Oh, man, that's hilarious.

[Mona]

I hear my voice and I lifting tea.

[Parks]

I'm with you. Got it.

[Ish]

Any who's what we talking about Drake dising you?

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, no. A bunch of nothing. We're over. I don't know. I don't think he dissed me on the album, but I do think that that is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's definitely dising you.

[Parks]

You are getting subs.

[Mona]

So what?

[Joe Button]

Oh, if I get some subs, I'm getting some subs.

[Ish]

I see what you did there.

[Joe Button]

That's a good one.

[Ish]

I tell you, That's a good one.

[Joe Button]

You bet. That's up me. Give me, give me a reason.

[Parks]

Start reaching like, hey, that's about me.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Soup me up.

[Parks]

4pm in New York again.

[Joe Button]

What? Put that battery right? Yeah, I turn right around. Go ahead. Anyway, California, what else is happening? I'm done with Versus Talk. Shout out to French. Shout out to Ross.

[Ish]

I was entertained. Regardless.

[Parks]

I was. I was.

[Joe Button]

When I got. When I got over the whole they're friends and they're loving on each other thing, I felt good about it.

[Ish]

A lot of bangers up there, so

[Joe Button]

I felt good about it.

[Parks]

See, I knew going into it that we wasn't going to get the competitive. It's not going to be that.

[Joe Button]

I like seeing friends sometimes. Especially if y' all got good records together.

[Parks]

I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

If y'. All. If y' all are friends and don't have good records together, then that friendship. But French and Ross, they got some bangers. Damn, man. Ross and Drake.

[Ish]

Word.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. If Ross was friends with Drake, that it would have been a bad night for French. So there's some other records that have came on too. Anyway, what else, what else, what else, what else? What else is important? Unimportant. Drew Ski. Did y' all see the Drew Ski?

[Parks]

I did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I loved it.

[Ish]

Amazing was cinema.

[Joe Button]

This is about the British world, the

[Parks]

British actors, about somebody getting money that Drew keep getting money.

[Ish]

That wasn't no iPhone.

[Parks]

That was.

[Joe Button]

That camera work.

[Parks]

That's a production. That camera work was different, bro.

[Mona]

I feel like a stand for like every video. I like it more than the last one. They just get better and better.

[Parks]

I'm with you. I seen people hating on it. Well, not hating, but. Well, oh, it's becoming too produced. And it's not. It don't look. I love that evolve.

[Ish]

But also, he's still on the regular shits too. Like, the last one was a regular.

[Parks]

But my thing is, I'm here to show separation. I'm not where y' all at no more. My don't group me with y'. All.

[Mona]

I. I enjoy when they put a little oomph into the skits. Desi Banks, I remember he did a no limit skit. He had tanks in that. Real tanks. Like, you gotta give it to a He re Master P with a tank.

[Ish]

I mean, also, these guys are like, this is their job.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

Like, paid a handsome ransom.

[Ish]

I'm not sure.

[Mona]

You gotta appreciate that then when they doing it for the people.

[Parks]

And I like the accuracy of the skit.

[Mona]

That's really. Yo, when he went to street these, they get hit. Well, actually, when I got into the road, it was a. His accent was throw me up. I'm like, this from Australia.

[Parks]

Or I thought that was. AI was a little.

[Mona]

Oh, I mean, I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The accents was a little accent was strong.

[Joe Button]

No, that was the impressive part for me.

[Mona]

That's the impressive part.

[Parks]

The impressive part that shows he's taking this seriously is that he really. And work went and worked on his UK accent. Yeah, that was impressive because I've been

[Joe Button]

making the same observation about the. The British. All of us taking all the gigs.

[Ish]

We talked about it up here a bunch of times.

[Joe Button]

But had I had. I tried to execute that, the. That I. That concept, the accent would have stopped me, dog.

[Parks]

You would have had to study for some months.

[Joe Button]

The accent would have stopped. So I was blown up. The way y' all felt about his production is how I felt about him, even at both.

[Parks]

Yeah, they went hand in hand.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz.

[Parks]

The. The street scene that you like, that was snowfall. That was snow. Yeah, snowfall. When he told the. When he told the Leon his name, Samson, whatever. It was a play on Damson. Dubois. Samson Dubois. That's funny, bro.

[Joe Button]

I was getting Idris too. In a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

[Mona]

No, I was getting id.

[Parks]

That was snowfall. That scene in the car. The scene in the car was snowfall.

[Mona]

When he told like the first time that ever occurred heard me was oh, yeah, Idris. Yeah.

[Parks]

The wire the way a talk. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I still ain't finished Hijack.

[Parks]

Yo you.

[Ish]

Oh, that was good.

[Parks]

That Was good.

[Ish]

It was good.

[Joe Button]

Like two episodes.

[Parks]

It was good.

[Joe Button]

Be too much good out.

[Ish]

There is a lot of good out.

[Joe Button]

Right. And I'm a show hopper.

[Parks]

Me too. Is it good out? Cuz I'm looking.

[Joe Button]

There is. There is.

[Parks]

I was going to hit you the other day. I asked for something cuz I finished the Imperfect Woman.

[Ish]

That was cool.

[Parks]

I didn't like the ending. I like the concept. But once I got to the end I was like. I didn't like the end wasn't the best. The ending was flat. It like had you peaked up and it should have just dropped off like.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's because it really ended in episode seven.

[Parks]

Like you did all that to that for that?

[Ish]

Yeah, they tried to add that extra little wrinkle at the end.

[Joe Button]

And Widows Bay on Apple plus is good.

[Ish]

I want to start that.

[Parks]

It popped up last night.

[Joe Button]

I didn't start it on Apple Plus. There's three episodes out. Is a good new show.

[Parks]

I'm in your Friends and Strangers.

[Ish]

Yeah, Friends and Neighbors.

[Parks]

Friends and Neighbors. Yeah, that's the one. I know this is season two but I started like episode one when it first aired and never finished it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

So now I'm into it. This is good. It's a good show everybody. You know, I don't with the scary, but everybody keep telling me to watch from. Oh yeah, they said it's amazing. I just. We, we are on episode two of season one. It's the black dude from Hal Paranau. Yeah, he, he, he's. He a tough guy. He's one of them.

[Ish]

I don't know if anybody watched Handmaid's Tale, but the spin off is actually pretty good. What's it called? Testaments. Testament.

[Parks]

I'll let. Sure. I didn't know. Did you have to watch Handmaid's Tale to catch it?

[Ish]

Probably not, but there's like a lot of references and that you would understand better had you watched Handmaid's Tale.

[Joe Button]

Gotcha good at it. Okay, so in more news that nobody cares about but me, in things that nobody is watching but me. These are my favorites, honestly. And it's okay. I accept it.

[Parks]

Cause it be bullshit.

[Joe Button]

I'm a weirdo. This shit is bullshit. I be home with nothing to do and I'm a Virgo. I'm just observing.

[Parks]

And a bird.

[Joe Button]

I came here and a bird. Is this birdie for me? I came in here a few pods ago and highlighted Bow Wow's post that he made where he was like it was after the show. Whatever concert he's doing, he Was like, yo, all the same girls is coming to my show. Then they go on. They go on the US and they go on the Chris Brown show. They going to this show. Yo, we got all the same girl. They all the same girls. And I came in and was like, that's hate. And he has another. Another motive for doing that that's not just as supportive. And we all had, oh, no Bowser Sniper bows this. And I'm like, yeah, that's kind of why I'm disappointed in him. Because he's a sniper. You don't need to resort to that. So Bong Chris Brown has his album release party wherever he has it at. I only know about it because Munchie put it all in her story. Hey, Munchie, I love you. And the young lady is there that went viral recently because she. I don't know either.

[Parks]

Was that what? Because was it his birthday party? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Because he played the album at the birthday party.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but the young lady went viral because she looks like some people that he's dated before.

[Parks]

He has a type. Let's just say he does. And there's nothing wrong with having.

[Joe Button]

Don't jump in, Mona.

[Mona]

I ain't say nothing.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead. So he has a type, and he put some fire emojis under this young lady's picture.

[Parks]

Post on the gram.

[Joe Button]

And underneath, Bow Wow posted right underneath. Replied, replied and said, you must be stopped.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I know what you think.

[Mona]

Give me a motherfucker.

[Joe Button]

This is some of the most hate.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is.

[Joe Button]

This is support hate.

[Parks]

See, I don't see the support in it.

[Mona]

You was right the first.

[Joe Button]

This is supportive facts.

[Mona]

It's the kind of hate where you must be stopped. You can mask it. That's the best type of hate nowadays. Then it's debatable because then it's like if you don't like air, you respond backwards. It's like, what? I didn't even mean it that way. And if you get it off, you evilly instead of laugh inside because you know what you was on.

[Joe Button]

Bow wow got to come up here. He got to answer for something.

[Parks]

I hit him before, like, yo, you must stop now. You got to come.

[Mona]

But nobody would ever. That's the thing about that type of hate. He come up here or not, he never has to admit it. You. There's no reason.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, I'm checking for that.

[Mona]

You going.

[Parks]

If I see him in the strip

[Joe Button]

club, I'm checking for that.

[Mona]

Yeah, but he's never going to the way he's doing it, he's never going to say, yeah you right. You got me there. Because that's why he's presenting in that way. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

You got to be able to pick. You pick up on the traits when somebody that you fly with is a little envious of you and how you moving.

[Parks]

Yo dawg, that shit cool. Number one. It depends on the level of their relationship.

[Ish]

Yep.

[Parks]

That's the biggest thing. How Joe, if I did that I could see you under my comments saying you must be stopped.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

In fairness, he is a hater.

[Joe Button]

I've never commented under any.

[Parks]

I'm giving you an example. I'm saying if I did that nigga you just put on your page. Me staring at somebody totally out of context on the podcast.

[Mona]

Wait a minute.

[Joe Button]

He did.

[Mona]

Did 15 different versions of you doing that.

[Parks]

That's totally.

[Mona]

It was 15 different angles of you staring though. Not just one.

[Joe Button]

And all of them.

[Parks]

Are we drunk up here?

[Mona]

He printed out those pictures is and went like this living movie. That's how many angles it was.

[Parks]

That's totally different because 1.

[Joe Button]

Him.

[Parks]

Him doing that post is feeding a narrative. It's playing into something on a pod. It's a joke. It's hahaha. Bow wow doing that is totally different. How do you know that if Bow Wow and Chris Brown might have that level of relationship? I'm talking about a public narrative.

[Mona]

It's because it's public ish.

[Parks]

That's the thing I'm speaking to. Feeding a public narrative. So the public.

[Joe Button]

Let him talk.

[Parks]

What's the public narrative? The public narrative is when the female guests come up here, you get. You know how you get in your bag. So him taking a picture of that and posting you googly eyed or whatever. Whatever is my man in his bag. That's. That's, that's the narrative part. That's the viewers of the show. They're gonna peep that they're gonna see that there is no show between Bow Wow and Chris Brown.

[Mona]

It's not true.

[Parks]

One we. This I started off with. It depends on the level of rapport. They might have this in common. This might be my. And this is how we play. That's number one. Number two, everybody that's on Joe Button's follow list don't watch this show. Hold up.

[Joe Button]

I'm not about you. And that. It's very.

[Parks]

Giving an example. And it's not that.

[Joe Button]

Let him land.

[Mona]

No. Allow him to make it about 100%.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I said before we started.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Thousand.

[Mona]

Excuse me. Please finish making it about. I think. I mean, your point?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I say this. It depends. Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

Then he cut him off.

[Mona]

I'm scared.

[Joe Button]

No, after he says, let him land.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I apologize. Go ahead, finish.

[Mona]

Let him fucking land.

[Joe Button]

Oh, then I could have cut you off then.

[Ish]

No, he's sticking up for him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm just having the same position. We was arguing about this before the show started. I said to me, it could be hate, right? There are people who do that shit, and they're haters. But if that's your man and that is his man, then I don't necessarily think it's that. I think, if anything, he's performing coolness with him.

[Joe Button]

Okay, Y' all are isolating. You must be stopped. And I'm combining it with the previous shit with the previous poll.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think all that is. I'm with you, by the way.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, you think? Oh, shit, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think contingent upon.

[Parks]

Even if that's my man's is if you my man. My man ain't different.

[Joe Button]

What are you talking about? If you my man and you got a show at Urban Plaza and I got a show at Sony hall and I make a poll. Oh, all the bitches that his show. He fucking is at my show. I'm fucking him. Omarion is him. He's fucking him. You're not gonna look at me me

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

and say, oh, this.

[Joe Button]

That's my man. Posting. That's hate. Even if we friends, that's hate. That's friendly. That is friendly. Yo, Bow Wow gotta knock it the off. And this is not serious. So nobody really cares about this. I don't even know why I have this voice on. That'd be the problem. Yeah, he gotta knock it off

[Mona]

because you called.

[Parks]

Yeah, I disagree.

[Mona]

This is proof that the original point was true. My personal opinion. I agree, too. I thought that was all of this

[Joe Button]

says that Chris Brown got some joints that Bow Wow wants to penetrate and he don't know how to suppress that.

[Parks]

He might have already penetrated him. And he typed that they both popping.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all possible.

[Joe Button]

That's a reach. That's a reach.

[Mona]

I don't know if Chris Brown is that a reach.

[Joe Button]

Don't disrespect Bow. Bow Wow didn't fuck all the girls Chris Brown fucked. This guy didn't fuck all the girls that this guy fucked. It's not just because of Bow Wow and Chris Brown. Nobody is that identical in the.

[Parks]

Every other city we get Chris Brown. Every other video. This has been going on for years. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

These being obtuse. Listen to me for a second. Listen, hate don't come over the girl that we both.

[Parks]

That's not true.

[Ish]

Sometimes it does.

[Parks]

Sometimes that's not true. That a always trap far from true. Sometimes my NBA beefing right now over girls that they both in the no

[Joe Button]

and one girl like the other more not exclusively. This scenario we not there's nobody's gonna hate because we the same girl.

[Parks]

It happens in this scenario. I can see that.

[Ish]

It definitely happens.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Badwas a hater. Badwell's a hater. We ain't got to spend time with that. Two things could you on some hating and stay out the comments with you must be stopped when a in his bag with something that looked like his.

[Parks]

Cuz I'mma tell you

[Mona]

that was drawn.

[Parks]

Look in that instance, if I am joking with my mans like that, I might screenshot that and send it to you like, yo, you wilding. Yo, you gotta chill out. Like on some jokey joke. The second you make a comment publicly, you know what I'm doing. You know why I put the flame emojis under her picture. You know what time it is.

[Joe Button]

I tease each everybody, why are you

[Parks]

even making it hot? Why are you even. It's already a thing already as is. You coming in here saying anything as my man is just gonna add pig to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They could play or he could just be doing something that's corny in the moment. It don't mean it's hate.

[Joe Button]

Y' all keep saying they play like that. Show me the instance of Chris Brown publicly playing with Bow Wow like that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Chris might not play like that. No, no. You're missing what I'm saying. I'm saying it might be like a move that we might say. That's kind of corny.

[Joe Button]

Don't do that.

[Parks]

When we seen Bow Wow do it again.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is why I say this. I like Bow, so I'm trying to say it.

[Joe Button]

Wait, I like him too. Bow's a legend.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm trying to say this diplomat. I've seen Battle often publicly sort of talks about who he's really tight with, certain relationships, whether it's Snoop, whether it's. Whether it's Chris Brown. It's certain kinds of people. And so sometimes there's a performance of coolness that he's doing coolness with them. I'm saying. I'm not saying Battle's not cool. They ain't coolness with them. So some of that to me might not be that he's trying to hate on him. He's just trying to show how cool they are to the world.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[Ish]

Also, it's possible that Chris could play like or not play like. Like that he don't comment on nothing that Bow's doing, but Bow does in a similar way that you might comment on that he's doing, but he not necessarily doing that. Back to you.

[Parks]

I was about to say, but again, I don't want to center me my. Could you imagine if I was single, the Joe would be doing to me publicly? Like. Like. Let's stop my the. That Joe will be doing to me publicly. If I was sick, he do mad and I'm in a relationship. Could y' all imagine what he would be doing to me publicly if I was single?

[Joe Button]

I've known you single and nothing has ever happened publicly.

[Parks]

I haven't been on a public forum. I'm talking about now me being on a public forum. If I was single, could you imagine the Joe would be doing?

[Joe Button]

For shits and giggles, public forum is back to work.

[Parks]

All right, that's.

[Joe Button]

Seriously. We got it. Me and you done been in the field too often for you to like what you talk. We G's. This ain't G, bay. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. This ain't G, babe. And if you did that, I would call you on it, and if I did that, you should call me on it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It might not be G behavior. I'm just saying it might not be hating behavior.

[Joe Button]

I think it's hate space, first of all.

[Parks]

Even if that.

[Joe Button]

And I'm telling that this is not important.

[Parks]

Like I said, I'm with it being not saying hate as in we got beef, but friendly hate exists.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know what you're saying. I don't necessarily think it's. I think it depends on the person and the relationship. That's all.

[Mona]

At the end of the day, all of this is null and void because that bitch is his type. So he was not playing. He was trying to fuck her. Why are you playing where I'm trying to lay my shit at? That is his of type. Type. I'm her. This is what's happening. So you come in your famous ass comment. Thank you. Now everybody know about my little dip. This work at Starbucks. I'm Ray. Now everybody knows.

[Joe Button]

You know why me and you can't. You know why me and.

[Mona]

What are we talking about?

[Joe Button]

You know why me and you ish. And this is the last thing I'm gonna say.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz.

[Joe Button]

Again, this is not that serious. You know why we. We can't relate our life experience to this? Because me and you very rarely shot at the same hoop. This looks like we know this is Chris's type. We know that, right?

[Parks]

You think Bao shooting at that hoop?

[Joe Button]

I mean, bow has enough public exes for us to look at them and say, oh, I would shoot at that hoop. This is back to Mark's topic, yo.

[Parks]

I don't take it as that. This is back to Mark. I think it's just clowning my man's.

[Joe Button]

But there is hate clowning my man, because my man really got this girl, and there's nothing you could do about her. You demon powerless. But if you were not deemed powerless, then you're not just clowning me. You're trying to make a move, and I'm included in the move.

[Parks]

See, I don't think you're trying to.

[Joe Button]

I'm glad. I'm glad you're here. We having some G G Talk. We need GS here. We need GS here, man.

[Mona]

We're gonna talk about that boy, you know what's up?

[Parks]

What y' all throwing up? What set is that? What y' all throwing up?

[Mona]

Pimp set. Yeah, Peas peed up.

[Joe Button]

That's another reason I never joined the game. My fingers.

[Parks]

Oh, my God, that thumb.

[Joe Button]

Trying to throw up quick crazy.

[Parks]

If you threw that thumb up, would think you was being disrespectful. And you know who was. You got to put the thumb between. You couldn't do that.

[Mona]

He would never be able to really throw the. Be right with that little ass thumb.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man, my thumb.

[Mona]

A little.

[Joe Button]

Hey, little. Yeah, it's bad.

[Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

I get shot if I threw this thumb or some work. Yeah.

[Parks]

They be like, yo, he disrespected us.

[Joe Button]

Okay, so some of you people out there are familiar with young Guru. If you are not, he's a legend in this game, and he decided to pop it recently. He says no more humble guru. Oh, Guru is so humble. No, no, really, really. I'm going to read this post, and it's going to make it seem like he's not. But he's super, super humble and has been since forever. Since I ever met him, since day one. He says no more humble guru. I tried it. You're way. I'm about to remind you. I thought it was corny to brag, but y' all don't respect nothing else. You talking, but can't see my career. Oh, that's the line that paused Me who is talking?

[Ish]

Yeah, who.

[Parks]

That's what I want to know. Who he's talking to.

[Joe Button]

Who the is talking to.

[Parks]

I was trying to figure it out. I want to know who he's talking to. Call goo man.

[Ish]

You figure out who he's talking to.

[Joe Button]

I respect goo too much to call him. I'm text him you talking but you but can't see my career. You have one record, bro. I was doing that every week. Week 25 years ago.

[Ish]

This is someone very specific.

[Joe Button]

And I'm still doing it now. I'm one of the best ever.

[Ish]

That part.

[Joe Button]

You want it one way, but it's the other way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Marlo.

[Parks]

Now.

[Joe Button]

I've never heard Guru talk like this.

[Ish]

Now every so often he talks this,

[Parks]

but this every now and again. This seems so direct.

[Ish]

Someone said something somewhere. Someone said something somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Who's the with one record?

[Ish]

There's a bunch. It's 2026.

[Joe Button]

Everybody only got one record.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Most of them.

[Joe Button]

But why would somebody with one record

[Mona]

play with not only.

[Parks]

Well, I can see that.

[Joe Button]

Cuz them be a little wet behind the ears on some novice. But why would it get him to.

[Ish]

That's a good question.

[Parks]

Out of bed.

[Mona]

I hate these type of open statement.

[Parks]

Might have said something.

[Joe Button]

Out of bed. Why would it make goo pop like you got one record, you brand new.

[Parks]

Want to see.

[Joe Button]

I've been here since 90 whatever.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why are we talking to this. This guy?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You shouldn't talk to him. So my question to y', all, two questions. One is this confirmation that we're getting a Jay Z album? I say yes.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I say yes.

[Ish]

It doesn't hurt the.

[Parks]

The rumors confirmation though.

[Ish]

I don't say confirmation.

[Parks]

Maybe not.

[Ish]

It's certainly.

[Parks]

I also got three sold out shows. I'm about to do a Yankee Stadium. And I'm about to show you something.

[Ish]

Also. Also, Guru is still active. He's still active. So it with people other than ho. He mixes people other than ho.

[Mona]

He probably was beefing.

[Parks]

I know, but we're not.

[Joe Button]

But, but when you read that, I'm about to remind you. I'm about to remind you it's not the new Rhapsody.

[Parks]

That ain't them.

[Joe Button]

We love you.

[Parks]

That ain't them.

[Joe Button]

We love you Rap. She rap knows we love her.

[Mona]

Y' all don't.

[Joe Button]

I'm about to remind you. Don't sound like that.

[Parks]

That sound like y' all about to see.

[Ish]

I see what you're reading, okay?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but how are you gonna remind us, girl?

[Parks]

I mean, three sold out shows in A month and a half.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Oh, that ain't gonna remind us.

[Parks]

Yeah, no, it might.

[Joe Button]

No. Well, the remind you sound like new music. No, I don't remind you sounds like new music. And it sound like whatever that new music is.

[Ish]

It's fire.

[Joe Button]

It's absolutely fire.

[Parks]

I know we trying to will it into fruition. I. I think that Yankee Stadium, y' all are gonna see. I'm about to remind you something. The whole world is coming to Yankees,

[Mona]

but I feel like this isn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I want y' all to be right.

[Ish]

I think that's part of the equation. But I'm not necessarily saying it's a whole record because again, he does record and mix other people, so it could be another massive record from someone else. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I wanted to be a new H.

[Parks]

It don't say specifically, but it just said he was, I'm remind you, shooting at some critics who said he average and he just got lucky to be working with Jay. Who the hell the.

[Ish]

Yeah, whoever said that, shut the up.

[Parks]

That's one of them. That's one of 22 year olds that write the list.

[Ish]

Clear out. You don't end up in these situations on accident. Like, yeah, he may be lucky to be with Hov and Ali may be lucky to be with Kendrick, and I may be lucky to be with Joe, but we didn't end up here on accident. He didn't stay there on accident. Shut the up. Whoever said that, shut the up.

[Parks]

That's one of them little kids,

[Ish]

especially Shut the up. If you never did nothing. I don't know who he was talking to, but I'm with Goop, man. Sorry. Shut the up.

[Mona]

I wish I could shoot a real gun.

[Joe Button]

O, Jay about to come for you on the gun. Jay is coming.

[Mona]

Jay is coming.

[Joe Button]

It's coming.

[Ish]

It might be with y'.

[Joe Button]

All. I seen this guru and I was like, oh, it's happening. It's happening, y'.

[Ish]

All.

[Joe Button]

Oh, and my final question. Does humility gain you nothing? No. At least in entertainment, in the Internet,

[Ish]

it gains you nothing.

[Parks]

In entertainment, it gains you nothing. Rest in peace, Hovain. We used to have a saying. Fuck being humble. Like, humble don't get you nowhere.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I don't know.

[Joe Button]

I think rest in peace, Hovain. But Mark, disagree with Hovain.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not about disagreeing with Hovain. It's about. It's like they always say, you like,

[Joe Button]

you can't disagree with it.

[Parks]

I'm just saying. That was our saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, I'm with you. And I think there is some value to putting your shit out there, but there's some. Look at Babyface. I would say Babyface is humble.

[Joe Button]

Why would you say that until.

[Parks]

Did you watch the verses?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but this is what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

When has Baby Face been humble?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't mean you're not confident, cocky, or maybe even arrogant to be humble. Partly about how you present to the world.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Ain't humble the opposite of arrogant?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying.

[Ish]

But there's a spectrum.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying there's space for different things. There's a spectrum. You can't be as good as any of these people are and not know that you. You're great. You can't be baby faced. You can't be Unguru. You can't be parked. You can't be none of these. You can't even be Joe without not knowing.

[Parks]

But I could.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Not amazing.

[Parks]

I could know I'm great and not pop it and don't say a word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's the humble part.

[Parks]

And that's the humble. And then once y' all start playing with my name, I have to pop out and remind you who the I am. That's the. That's the not humble part. Right?

[Ish]

But sometimes you do that.

[Parks]

Sometimes y' all pull the not humble out of a. Like.

[Ish]

But sometimes you do that without.

[Joe Button]

Without everybody take the time.

[Ish]

Sometimes you do that without necessarily just talking on the Internet or something. Sometimes just like, I'm gonna drop the HOV album or whatever he did. The Meek Champions album.

[Joe Button]

Like, I'm.

[Ish]

I'll show you.

[Parks]

I don't have to.

[Ish]

Necessarily.

[Parks]

Is not humble.

[Ish]

True.

[Parks]

Just that post. But that don't mean he not a humble person. He's been humble for decades. And now I'm gonna show you who I am. That still don't negate this fact that he. The question was, does not. Was being humble? Is being humble not worth it in entertainment? And I'm saying no, because you have to pop it to sometimes show you. If humble was being. If humble was being worth it, you wouldn't have to pop it. You would just shut up and be humble all day. That wasn't the question. The question was, does being humble get you anything?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

That was the question. I think it does and it does. Humble can get you. All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. Don't do that. Verses. He's still Baby Face.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And especially Guru.

[Parks]

Still Guru, rather he put that post out or not, of course. So his Humility and his humbleness still got him somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Babyface doesn't strike me as humble because I know that I know how he really feels about himself. However, when it came to him and Anita Baker, perfect. He was humble. Yeah. When it came to that stupid question that lady asked him on the. On the red carpet, he was humble. Right. So I. I think. And he looked good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

I get what you're saying now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, bro.

[Parks]

It's a lot of people that are

[Joe Button]

humble, but I don't look at it as humble.

[Parks]

I look at it as humble. Who?

[Joe Button]

Classy.

[Parks]

Steph Curry.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Parks]

He carries himself admirable.

[Ish]

Yes, I agree.

[Mona]

If you.

[Joe Button]

I don't think Steph Curry humble neither.

[Parks]

I also think there's a spectrum. There's.

[Ish]

There's being loud and boisterous, and there's being like. I'm just going to show you. By doing dope that could be perceived, you. Someone could read through that. Someone that's not humble can read through that and be like, oh, you popping. You're just not saying it out loud.

[Parks]

All right, I got a response from Guru.

[Joe Button]

He like. Like quiet luxury.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like, I get it.

[Parks]

I got a response from Guru here, and he said, I don't want to give that person any attention. I was simple saying that. I don't like to brag on myself. I think that's corny. Which goes back to the humble.

[Joe Button]

Classy. He's humble.

[Parks]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

He popped it on some, though. And that whole vibe about to be sick.

[Parks]

And the person.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Parks]

And the person who he's talking to know it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he.

[Joe Button]

They definitely.

[Parks]

You know what I'm saying? So sometimes I could just. I could keep my humility by just popping my. In a way where, you know, I'm talking to you.

[Joe Button]

Hey, everybody, whoever Goo is talking to, he's protecting you because Goose name is on the list of people where if you talk bad about him, you'll be ostracized from.

[Parks]

From hip hop.

[Joe Button]

From him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So he's.

[Joe Button]

So. He's really kind of. I'm doing you a solid because of all the names in music.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

To pick out of a box, there's certain people you.

[Ish]

You can just leave.

[Joe Button]

Why would it be Guru? What has he ever done nothing to nobody.

[Parks]

Mona.

[Joe Button]

What? What?

[Parks]

Chicks are just, on your opinion, from your perspective, are just super duper humble, but they don't be popping they shit.

[Mona]

I don't know. When y' all sitting here having this conversation, the whole thing, I'm thinking Is if you're truly a humble person, would it matter whether it was you being humble about what you do creatively or what you do for work? If you're a huge humble, you know, you're. You're. You don't switch up for this. Like, you're not going to not be humble when it comes to talking shit about the music. You know? Like, I feel like when I think about humility, I think about people having a connection with God and being appreciative of what you have. So that's deeper than I'm a good soccer player, I'm a good rapper. I'm humble because I want God to know I appreciate what I got. That's why I'm humble.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Mona]

So it's like, I'm humble. I try to be humble in all ways because that's what this is. That's how I show appreciation. You know what I mean?

[Ish]

Sure.

[Mona]

Like, I don't feel like you pick. And I also feel. I feel like 2026, it's cool to not be humble when in reality, when we came up, that wasn't. You were supposed to be humble. That's what you aiming for.

[Parks]

Right?

[Mona]

Right, Right. You don't. It's. You're not allowed to not be humble to show these niggas. No. Because you do things for you. For you. It has nothing to do with everybody else.

[Joe Button]

See, in 2026, I think a lot of that should be false bravado from these niggas. And for me, you gotta be a babyface or a Kobe or a guru. I gotta. You got. If you're not humble, I gotta know why you not. Without you telling me reason.

[Parks]

You got to have.

[Ish]

The only person I could think of that successfully pulled off the I'm not humble from day one. And it worked.

[Joe Button]

Was.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Fact.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

He was never humble.

[Mona]

He was never humble.

[Ish]

He was never.

[Mona]

At least I feel like his mother didn't raise him to be humble. His mother kept that in

[Parks]

Jay, too. Yeah. Like, Jay was talking that before he got to where he. Kanye came out the gate like, I'm him.

[Ish]

He was loud.

[Parks]

Yes, he was.

[Joe Button]

Was loud.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. And that's Station, too. Right. He was not humble and he was loud.

[Parks]

He wasn't.

[Ish]

And he delivered, though.

[Joe Button]

I don't feel like that about hov.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I was like, I'm Jay Z was talking that about I'm going to be this. I'm going to. I told my big. I'll be moti before I die. He was saying a whole bunch of. In 1996 before the world ever heard of his. But when we talk about rap, everybody don't carry it with that much confidence.

[Mona]

When you talk about rap though, that's what rap is about. Providing I think it's hard to like even mix or compare that. Cuz a rapper gotta pop it. That's a part of being a rapper.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I feel like when it comes to a. When it certain kinds of rappers that

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I enjoy, I'm just thinking like someone like Q Tip.

[Parks]

I would say that Q Tip is

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

one of them who's a legend. Q Tip, one of the greatest, but super humble if you think about what he's contributed to hip hop.

[Parks]

Although people don't even know behind the

[Ish]

scenes he might pop a. I'm about to.

[Joe Button]

He does. I'm about to say in real life, deservedly so too.

[Ish]

Yeah. Tips, one of the greatest.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But I think that's part of humility is like was.

[Joe Button]

Was executive producing that Slaughterhouse album. He reminded us of the albums he executive produced.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

That was so funny when he came in and everyone was in there. Hi. Oh, Q Tip's here. Then he's like went and played the grand piano in the other room for like an hour. That's not humble. But you know.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, these. That's not humble. It's tough to work with. That's not humble because they not humble. And you can't say nothing to them because they, they like QT deserves to not be humble. Yeah, yeah. Even though he is humble.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Parks]

But, but that's the fourth because that's

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

a relative to what your talent.

[Parks]

But this is my, this is my point. Also underappreciated the public humbleness and humility just comes in a public perspective. It's like when somebody, to Mona's point, you doing something for somebody and you doing it out the kindness of your heart because you think that's the right thing to do.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And they just keep, keep, keep doing some bullshit or saying bullshit. Sometimes you got to be like, yo my, I did. And that's corny because you're not doing it for that.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Parks]

But sometimes you gotta remind the like yo my, you wouldn't be.

[Joe Button]

See, I think HOV was super humble into a hard knock life.

[Parks]

No, I wouldn't say super is a

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

lot, but yeah, but he wasn't talking.

[Parks]

I did five mil. I ain't been rapping. Like Common Sense, Volume 1A said, yo, you can match a triple platinum artist buck by buck. You only had a single that went

[Joe Button]

Big Jay Z, he was the best. Big JZ knows. And he was talking that shit as the best.

[Parks]

That's volume one.

[Joe Button]

I think in his position. I think when we first heard him, heard him, he had to play right hand to Jazz O. Jazz O was the rapper.

[Mona]

I was thinking that.

[Joe Button]

I was thinking also in the quarter. It don't matter. It's his entrance. Of course. His entrance is, you do it. I'm here, I'm the best. Reasonable Doubt, Volume one. And yeah, Reasonable Doubt and Volume one, he could stay with everyone. DMX was the man and he knew it.

[Parks]

But that's my part. That's. That's my point, though, to Park's point, when he was like, yo, Yay just came out. Like, I'm him. I think Jake Z came out I'm him. And the world had to catch on later. The same thing with Yay.

[Ish]

I think he just did it way cooler.

[Mona]

I definitely agree with the car was

[Joe Button]

loud with When Reasonable Doubt came out. Brooklyn finds reasonable doubt, right? Yes. Yeah, you can't. It's only by so much he could pop it. And at some point in his career, like, I'm sure he felt like he was battling ghosts because of the big.

[Parks]

He said it, Pac.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he said this before, so it's only. But so much. He was going to puff his chest out.

[Parks]

Not just that I might feel I'm the best. It was volume two when I sold that amount that put me there. Now I'm here, caught up to me talking. No, no, I'm talking a different type of. When the numbers match. That's what I'm saying. You could talk your all you want. There's a Who who got 10 listens on SoundCloud or Spotify right now popping his. But once my numbers match, I'm coming back to you and I'm talking different.

[Joe Button]

And then after I do these numbers, I'm going. I'm going to get Beyonce.

[Parks]

Now I got Beyonce. Now I'm a billionaire. Now it's this. Now it's you. Now I'm wearing a six million dollar watch at the Met gala. Like, that was a nice one. Don't look at me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was looking at different definitions of humble. Cause you know, it means different things. But one of the key definitions is that tending to evaluate oneself accurately without excessive pride or arrogance. So if you are the greatest at

[Joe Button]

something,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you do get a little more wiggle room to talk a little more shit. If you actually are that good, like Tip or Kanye or whoever, they can talk a little more shit.

[Parks]

But sometimes the niggas that are the greatest at Something my greatness due to talking. I don't talk talk. Like, yeah, Michael Jordan by a lot of people say, Jordan is the. Is number one. He's the greatest. You know, you got LeBron debate. Whatever the case may be. He don't say it, but he'll just show it in the. I don't arrogant in the world, bro. I'm saying. And he don't come out. I'm better than you. I'm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I would.

[Parks]

He never says I am the greatest ever. That told the. You better shut up before I get you kicked out the league. That's the difference. I am the greatest ever. That's totally different.

[Joe Button]

Back to. You're right. Back to humble. Because Mike will say I'm nothing without. And then go name all of these people that don't mean that he don't know he's him.

[Parks]

Exactly. Yo, that's the public bullshit. That niggas, bro.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Parks]

But we talking about the public. We talking about the public. I think that's part again, y just brought up Q tip. Like you said, behind the scenes, certain people act a little bit more because arrogant bio behind the scenes because part

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

of what it says is typically keeping quiet about their accomplishments. So part of it is quiet.

[Parks]

They talk for me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't have to talk. Yeah. And that's.

[Parks]

Y' all could keep doing Mike LeBron all y' all want. Michael Jordan ain't said a word. I don't have to talk. My accomplishments speak for me. 60 in the finals.

[Joe Button]

And there you have it.

[Ish]

There you have it. Shout out to Guru, man.

[Mona]

Shout out to Guru.

[Parks]

Shout out to Ru, man.

[Joe Button]

Hey, gu. Off air, I'mma ask you. I'mma fin find out.

[Parks]

I'm trying. I'm still trying.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but he know we recording right now. You know he know we recording, so it's nothing that we could do.

[Parks]

He also said point out the fact that the public doesn't or point out that the public doesn't have credits on album anymore. So they might not even know Park's entire resume. Yeah.

[Ish]

That's facts.

[Parks]

So he's like, people be great, and you just don't know what they doing.

[Ish]

Yeah, he was trying to show his class some, and I went to go look my up and some of them shits is missing from the DSPs and all that. Credits are up. Credits are up. It's a tough game out here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate this era.

[Parks]

You get your swanky.

[Ish]

Yeah, I got my money and I had credit. Unlike the CDs or whatever.

[Parks]

See my brain, that credit.

[Ish]

I'M with you. But that being said, the credit lasts forever. The money is spent.

[Parks]

I got you the credit. Change the price, though. Ish.

[Ish]

That, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm also thinking about this Draymond, Charles Barkley, Austin Reeves drama in light of this humility conversation. Because I watched it in real time when Draymond, he tried to get off this joke. Cause Barkley was basically saying, y' all too old to win Championships. You're 37 years old. You know, championships for young people. Like, basically, the dynasty's over. And what Dre said, he said, I'm just. Right now, we just try not to look like Charles Barkley in the Houston Rockets jersey. And I think he thought that that joke was going to get off. And people. Everybody would let nobody. Nobody laugh.

[Parks]

Not a soul.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was awkward. It was awkward as. And then.

[Ish]

That's funny.

[Parks]

But it's funny.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's funny.

[Mona]

If it's funny, why didn't nobody laugh?

[Joe Button]

That was not really funny. It's not really funny.

[Mona]

Explain it to the girl.

[Joe Button]

Guys, it's not funny. It's not funny because Draymond Green, if he had a genie in a bottle, would wish Charles Barkley's worst numbers. So you brought up huge Houston Barkley average.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

16, 12 and 4.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Down for Barkley.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

If Draymond Green averaged that, it would be the best numbers of his career.

[Mona]

I get it. Okay.

[Ish]

Easily.

[Mona]

Yeah. It was. No way. Yeah. He wasn't the one that throws it.

[Joe Button]

So that's when they take that conversation to what ring culture is doing to some people, because Draymond is accomplished, and he's got all of the rings. That shouldn't give him the ability to speak to Charles Barkley like that.

[Mona]

Audacity.

[Joe Button]

If you know about Charles Barkley, but this don't start at Charles Bark. It starts at Austin Rivers.

[Mona]

Can I ask you one more question, y'? All? Is that from ignorance or he's just not thinking?

[Joe Button]

No, he's one of the smartest in the game.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he.

[Parks]

He. He.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He knows.

[Ish]

And this is. This is my thing, is that Charles shot at him first. So that was a clap back. That's why I think it's funny. I think it's fair game. But with that being said, he can't hold Charles Barkley shoes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's part of the humility that's down for Barkley.

[Mona]

When he was on the Rocket. He is a jab fat Barkley there, for sure.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, for sure.

[Mona]

It's just he ain't got no business saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, if he was saying if he was making a fat joke, how he looked in the jersey, I'd say fine jokes. I actually thought that's kind of where he was going with it. But it became like a your career kind of joke. But to me, part of that is because on that show, Barkley has me is the butt of the joke. He's the. He's like now he's like the old angry fat guy that never won a ring.

[Ish]

Skinny now.

[Joe Button]

True, true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hard work and exercise. It's just.

[Parks]

That's the one thing that they have over him that they can constantly go to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But this new generation of kids that don't always look at the clips and the horrible highlights might forget Charles Barkley was different.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And other than take Shaq off the table for a minute, but everybody else up that be up at that desk can't say.

[Parks]

You can't take Shaq off that table.

[Mona]

His career don't compare to Sha.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but. But I'm saying in terms of the. And Sha. So Shaq can clown. So Shaq can clown him. But what I'm saying is the people. Sometimes when a leader clowns, the audience watches and then they start doing that

[Joe Button]

and they forget that they not saying about

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

was a subitude. And, and so, so, so, so audience, don't forget. Charles Barkley is one of the greatest to ever do that. He retired maybe the best player position ever.

[Joe Button]

But again, this didn't start at Charles Barkley.

[Ish]

Go back to the root.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, Austin. Austin Rivers. Actually, Draymond said what he had to say on his podcast about Steve Kerr. He said, Steve Kerr is one of the best coaches ever. Yeah. As much as he's helped my career, sometimes when I'm home, when I'm home, I can't help but to think that he may have hindered my career also. So that was a big talking point in sports world.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

And Austin Rivers saw it and he commented.

[Ish]

I think it's fair. It's weird to publicly say, but Carol.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, but Austin Rivers didn't. Austin Rivers didn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't diss him.

[Joe Button]

He didn't diss him. He just said. I think I disagree with that statement, but Draymond is a Hall of Famer and yada, yada, yada. But Steve Kerr helped his career. Yada, yada, yada, yada. And then Draymond clap backing him. Let me find the Draymond clap back. Where is it? Oh, no. This is when Austin went crazy. Let's see, let's see. Here's Draymond because quite honest, don't like

[Parks]

to get in these back and forth because quite honestly guys that you usually get into the back and forth with, they become back and forth because it's like one of them like severely tips something this way back to popping. It's like kind of so far down found that it kind of pulls you back a little bit. And so speaking of Austin Rivers, you know I saw he said he's bewildered and ridiculous of what I said and I just find it interesting that a guy who was the 10th pick in my draft I was 35 who's on his second act still on act one. He goes Draymond, never been a scorer. Austin, you and I averaged the same amount of points in high school. I say high school because that's when you were at your and then in college, you know he was still good. He was very featured at Duke because NBA careers should he really talk about my NBA career? I'm still with my first team. He was gone from his first team in two years. The guy received the biggest bailout in US history prior to President Trump bailing out the airlines when his dad gave him don't like to get any dollars and I tell him I had to die. I pray that I can give DJ $200 million or give deuce to 250. I pray that I can do that one day. I love how people just go take the 15 seconds that they want to take and make it a headline. But I really enjoy watching Austin Rivers be bewildered.

[Joe Button]

Nobody thought that what Austin Rivers said even warranted all of that because it didn't. But sometimes you got to be careful what you ask for.

[Parks]

I mean this is back then sometimes you got a little something forceful I don't like you already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know a lot of MP players

[Parks]

don't like you don't win. Said some I've been waiting for you to say my name so I can get this off anyway cuz I don't with you. You are the luckiest basketball player I

[Joe Button]

think I've ever seen.

[Parks]

Especially in modern day history.

[Joe Button]

Let's talk about that Austin Rivers reply

[Ish]

to a franchise with the hall of Fame front office Bob Myers hall of

[Joe Button]

Fame coach Step Steve Kerr the greatest

[Ish]

shooter of all time top 5 player

[Parks]

of all time Steph Curry Paul of

[Ish]

Famer one of the Greatest shooters Top 5 shooter of all time Another hall of Famer Klay Thompson, the Swiss army knife himself. The guy who could do a little bit of everything on the floor under Iguodala. Another hall of Famer I know Keep up. It's a lot of talent. Not to mention one of the most lethal scorers of all time and arguably

[Parks]

a top 10 player of all time, Kevin Durant.

[Ish]

The same guy you chased off because of this.

[Parks]

Your mouth.

[Ish]

You talk too much.

[Parks]

And that's not even counting the plethora

[Joe Button]

of talent around those guys.

[Parks]

The Sean Livingstons, the Barbara Bosas, the Bogan Wiggins.

[Joe Button]

I don't like how Bogan name don't get brought up. But anyway, open no.

[Mona]

1 guards.

[Ish]

Loser.

[Joe Button]

There are hours and hours and hours

[Ish]

of film of just you being left wide open.

[Parks]

In fact, anybody can just YouTube or Google or watch any Draymond game ever.

[Ish]

And he's open all game. There are clips of you getting a rebound and just driving in a straight

[Joe Button]

line and just getting a wide open layup. Cuz everyone's spanning out to guard the

[Parks]

actual talent on the team.

[Ish]

Talking about Steve car headed your career, bro.

[Joe Button]

Steve Kerr made your career.

[Mona]

How dare you.

[Ish]

That's a loser.

[Parks]

Yeah, I don't with that.

[Ish]

This is the same kind of people

[Joe Button]

that shouldn't hold points were made as loser. Why?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why?

[Parks]

Because you.

[Ish]

You're knocking the dude's situation that he contributed to, and it was a situation that he maximized.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He says that too on the. On the audio, though. I mean, in fairness, like.

[Ish]

And also back to people that shouldn't say about somebody else. You, Austin Rivers cannot say about Draymond Green in the same way that Draymond Green can't say about Charles Marco.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I disagree, okay? Part of it is, I think for

[Ish]

me, he ain't about to be on no lists, no hall of fame, no nothing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He was commenting.

[Joe Button]

But where I disagree with y' all is he was shutting the up. He didn't. He didn't start smoke with Draymond and he would never. He was on his talk show and he just. That was the talking point. Hey, do you think that what Draymond said about Steve Kirby is out of bounds? He answered it. He did not disrespect the man.

[Ish]

Okay?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said he was. That's what I'm saying. It felt like Draymond did way overkill. So then Austin came back with more overkill.

[Parks]

But his overkill is false. I mean, not false, but it's valid.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And you said something. You. You roll something that he said.

[Parks]

You listen one basketball is highly political. So Austin was. Austin Rivers is nice. We're not gonna just make it seem like he a mutt. He's nice. And a lot of times in the NBA, especially for guards, yo, the political Shit will swoop you up. That's number one.

[Ish]

He should have good politics. His dad is a fucking legend.

[Parks]

That don't mean that. That could work against him, depending on what political circles you're talking to.

[Ish]

Okay, sounds like more excuses.

[Parks]

Number two, what we do up here sometimes is say that, yo, if you didn't reach a certain level, then you cannot speak on. We do that for a living. We speak on people's business for a living. And sometimes our opinions may not be revered because we haven't done it. That's like another producer could say. Parks could shut the fuck. Could shut the fuck up, because he can't. He has not.

[Ish]

He has the right to reach.

[Parks]

He can't say that, and he has

[Ish]

the right to do that.

[Parks]

Yo, can I finish, please? No, that's not true. Parks could be right in what he's saying, in his assessment, but because Parks is not as decorated as that person does not not mean that Parks's opinion is not valid.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Parks]

That's not. The two things are not a correlation. So Austin Rivers can speak on. I've been around basketball for the last 30 years from my father's perspectives. I watch basketball with me and my brother, whatever the case may be. And I have an opinion. That don't mean his opinion is not valid, because he hasn't accomplished what Charles Barkley has accomplished.

[Joe Button]

He has a right to speak, and

[Ish]

his opinion is valid, but he's wrong. If Draymond Green was so worried. Worthless.

[Joe Button]

He never said.

[Parks]

And I don't think whatever.

[Ish]

He was minimizing his role.

[Parks]

Absolutely.

[Ish]

Golden State words. If that was not valid, you would go get a guy that can average 8 points for no money.

[Parks]

I think Draymond and Steph are a lot of. A lot of people. A lot of people refer to that publicly. A lot of people refer to Draymond as the glue of that team. I think Draymond is the glue. So you can't now call this person the glue of this team and then downplay them. Like, yo, you just the luckiest person. Like. Like your position plug and play. I don't. Your position ain't playing plug and play.

[Joe Button]

Like, if you shot at me first, why can't I say whatever I want about you?

[Parks]

And why say whatever you want but then. And what you saying if it's invalid, he could call you out on that. That's the thing.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I don't think what he said was.

[Parks]

I don't think what he said was invalid. Calling him. You just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't good.

[Parks]

You just got Lucky. We keep putting words in.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We should listen to the hog.

[Parks]

He didn't say both things could be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The.

[Parks]

Both things could be true. Draymond could have landed in a lucky ass spot, and he also could. But his skill sets could have benefited that team. I don't think you could go get any small forward and let them play the point with Clay and Steph and they be as successful. I think they are both equally wanting.

[Ish]

So you're also putting words in his mouth that are very much nicer than how he painted Draymond out.

[Parks]

It didn't sound like he was, but

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I listen to the whole. I listen to every word of it. And my sense of what Austin was saying through all of it was, Draymond's a great player. He definitely helped that team win, but he also was the beneficiary being placed in a really good situation that he may not have been able to replicate someplace else.

[Parks]

Half of being great is luck. All right, so don't so speak to the luck.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I don't think that's unique. I don't think that's uniquely Austin Rivers. I mean, you could. I mean, there's a lot I could say. James, again, I've said this before, but if I take Dominique Wilkins and James Worthy and they drafted differently because they were in the same draft, Dominique Wilkins could have a. If he. If he's on that Laker team with Magic, he probably has five rings, and James Worthy on the Atlanta Hawks may have none. Right.

[Parks]

And we.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We might look at their careers very.

[Parks]

He could have been out the league in three years, four years, depending on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, circumstances change, people's situation. But Draymond certainly deserves every bit of credit for what he does. But I. I, like you said, I don't think we should. I think people are starting to forget how good Austin. Austin Rivers was, too. They average same amount of points in high school, as he said, but Austin Rivers was the best player in the country.

[Parks]

Not just that. It's harder to average points as a guard than it is as a big man, especially in high school.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And Austin Rivers also was. I mean, he was the shit at Duke. He wasn't just. You got featured at Duke. That's not. He was elite at Duke.

[Parks]

We talking about the league, though?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but Draymond brought those points up. I'm just saying. I see.

[Parks]

I'm just saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And then you get to the league. Yeah, Draymond's at a much better career than Austin Rivers, but I think he still has a right to have that conversation.

[Parks]

Like, there's been quite a few people that have been great in high school or great in college and get to the league, and it just ain't that. So what Draymond is saying is I. I've done it at the top level. Don't try to play me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I don't think he was trying to play.

[Parks]

I won't go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry. I don't think he was trying to play.

[Joe Button]

I feel like a lot of people are starting to feel like he'd just be popping it to a degree. That all right. You doing a lot, dog.

[Parks]

Cause it's ways. Because I'm on one of the greatest I played. I'm an integral part in one of the greatest teams ever. True. I'mma pop my shit.

[Joe Button]

Why? See, that's back to our competition. Everybody knows that.

[Parks]

Why you saying it?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody don't know it, though.

[Parks]

Yeah, everybody don't. Because y' all give the credit to kd. Y' all give the credit to Steph. Give the credit to that is insecure or maybe just yo y this playing me. I'm gonna.

[Ish]

In the same way that Guru, an engineer maybe doesn't get the shine of all these great albums that he's been a part of. The glue guy on a basketball team doesn't get the same shine and gets played with. And at the same.

[Parks]

Sometimes you gotta remind niggas he's also

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

one of the better defensive players in the NBA history.

[Parks]

But now you. But when you start. I'm a Draymond fan.

[Ish]

Me too.

[Parks]

But now when you want to start throwing around stats, your stats don't speak to that. So now it's. It's object. I'm objectively speaking. Now your stats don't talk to that because you probably average less than 10 points for a career in the NBA. I can impact the game in way

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

more than just points.

[Joe Button]

Accolades do.

[Parks]

I'm not disagreeing with that. What I'm saying is there's arguments to be made on both sides of the equation because Draymond bought a up stats and numbers and shit like that. And so now Austin Rivers could now bring up stats. You can't take my rings away, though.

[Ish]

I think it's unfair to say that have Barkley's back in that conversation with Draymond and then have Rivers back in that conversation because they're kind of doing the same shit. In one situation, we had Barkley's back. And in this situation, we have.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's why. I think it's a little different.

[Ish]

Parks, please.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Draymond was saying to I don't want to be like you.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't wanna have a career like you. And it's like n. You should wanna have a career like me. Right. Even that Houston career is better than what you had in terms of just pure individual skills, individual stats. Austin Reeves. Austin Rivers was never trying to compare himself to Draymond. He was making an independent assessment of who Draymond was to that team and to Draymond's own career. So that's why I think it's different,

[Ish]

which I think was all wrong.

[Parks]

Yeah, me, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think we.

[Ish]

I was dismissive and inaccurate, and y'

[Parks]

all talked about the. I wasn't agreeing with y', all, but

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it's different than a barking situation.

[Joe Button]

Let's wrap this up. I do have one more sports question for you guys. I don't want us to spend all day here.

[Parks]

Sixes and sevens.

[Joe Button]

This is my last. This is my last sports. My last sports question to you guys. Yo, do you want to walk or not?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I never answered your question.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you never answered it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't do that in Philly, huh? We make bets, take the walk, we honor our bets, and that's it. If I come here beat up. Exactly.

[Joe Button]

That's what we do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do I take the money back?

[Mona]

Especially Jersey. Jersey get dusty.

[Parks]

All right, watch him. Watch your mouth now. Watch your mouth. We talk about getting too far

[Mona]

in my slippers.

[Parks]

You going too far.

[Joe Button]

I seen him do it. I did see him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thousand ones for you, Mark.

[Joe Button]

I'mma throw that money in the sewer. Yo, keep your money.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I brought you 5,000 last year in cash.

[Joe Button]

That I kept. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Mona]

Anytime y' all want to throw money in the ground, in the trash, whatever, give it to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I told you.

[Mona]

Get the T. Okay, Number two, this. But I need HR.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got a bag full of singles.

[Joe Button]

We need HR Go ahead. Where is HR what was your last question? That was a joke. Look, I don't want Mona to throw it while she works here.

[Mona]

I have a question. Only when we're on break. Guys, I have a question.

[Joe Button]

That's all right.

[Mona]

I watch a lot of collages with that guy Draymond, and he's always beating people up.

[Ish]

He is.

[Mona]

Is that why he's so angry? Because people say he just lucked up and he sucks? For real.

[Joe Button]

No, that's what I'm saying. He's respected, like, people with him.

[Ish]

He do do a lot of.

[Parks]

And he don't suck at all.

[Mona]

He's very aggressive, very violent. I don't think he should Think about. About wrestling.

[Joe Button]

I don't think he'll be back on Anthony Davis's prank show.

[Mona]

Oh, I love this.

[Joe Button]

He won't be.

[Mona]

He was like, oh, I'm ready kill a in here. I love when people get pranked and they ready to get like physical. I love.

[Joe Button]

Why do. Why do prank people prank violent people?

[Mona]

Because it's better.

[Parks]

Because that's better.

[Joe Button]

It's a better reaction.

[Mona]

This saying that like he don't tick, tick, tick, boom. This yellow over here. Why do you this yellow until he turn his brain.

[Parks]

He's saying you're not violent.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying. It's not the same. It's not. I'm talking about violent people. People. People that would do something. People that get active. People that spin. Not victims.

[Mona]

Joey. I gotta. I gotta draw the line. Damn, Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He try to do it right now

[Joe Button]

he's a victim of gun violence. D Don't fall for that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Is don't fall for that.

[Joe Button]

Is he trying to get you by saying a fact? I'm not trying to get this N just called you a victim of gun. Look, look, look.

[Mona]

Gun out.

[Joe Button]

Pull that shit.

[Mona]

The fucking that it pull that. Look, I got the pocket rocket on me, bro.

[Parks]

It you better not pull.

[Joe Button]

She do got a gun.

[Ish]

What was your last sports question?

[Joe Button]

My last sports question.

[Mona]

Shoot this up now for you guys. There's only one way.

[Joe Button]

Do you think that the NBA playoffs should recede the way that NFL does?

[Parks]

What you mean recede after the first round?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I do.

[Joe Button]

No, after the first round you got

[Mona]

to tell them what reserve and.

[Joe Button]

And recede means. Them recede means after the first round plays. The Pistons should be. Yeah, the Pistons would be playing the Sixers. Who were the lower seed? The Pistons or the one seed.

[Parks]

I get it.

[Ish]

Oh, I think they should actually.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I like.

[Parks]

I like that.

[Joe Button]

It makes sense.

[Parks]

I like that.

[Ish]

I like that a lot better matchups at least.

[Parks]

And as the one theoretically fairer. As the one seed, you should get an advantage. So I should be playing the lowest seed? Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why. Why do you disagree? I fought.

[Parks]

I fought this hard to become the one.

[Joe Button]

Why you disagree? Ish.

[Parks]

Because I think once the playoffs start, my. You get who you get. You know what I mean? Like, I. I don't think that like the NFL is only 16 games, right? The NBA, well, 17 now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Pardon me.

[Parks]

The NBA is 82 games. So I think that you have a longer season in which to establish a dominance. I think in the NFL you could lose three or four games by three points and you know what I mean? It changes some shit. Change everything drastically. I just think that you get who you get after 82 game season. It is what it is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

See, to me.

[Parks]

Yeah, but.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, to me, that's why you should recede. Because if I worked all year to have the home court advantage to get the one to have the one, or say I work really hard to have the two, because that's really where it comes in handy. Right. And the Sixers just beat Boston. So now we've effectively taken the pathway that the number two seed would have. That's unfair to the number three seed that worked all year to have. To have a better. To have a better record than us.

[Parks]

Point, Point. Point made. And I also think that it's a very big difference with the NFL versus the NBA, because home field advantage when you only got one game is way more advantageous than when you got seven games. It's only separated by one game. Home court advantage is only separated by

[Joe Button]

one home court for one game or three games or four games.

[Parks]

Yeah, but that's. If it play out and. And the home team wins all the games, that home court advantage could be a determining factor. I'm not. I'm not disagreeing. What I'm saying is it's only a one game difference. So if you steal a game, home court advantage now becomes yours. Correct. In football, it's one game. It's one and done. You done. But then they take a higher.

[Joe Button]

But then they receive.

[Parks]

That's more the reason to recede, though. No, in football, it's one game. So the home court advantage. I mean home field advantage means more than seven games is what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

But if it come down to game seven, I want that game seven played at home.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool. I like receding because I think the team with the worst record should have the hardest road.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And if I have an upset in the first round now I have the easiest road the rest of the way.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Like if the Magic would have beat the. The Pistons. Yeah. No, no. Hell no.

[Parks]

I'm. I'm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It works at hockey.

[Ish]

It works in pretty much anywhere everywhere else. That's usually how it goes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's preceding.

[Parks]

I. I do like that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Adam Silva can investigate that when he investigates the Thunder and the officiator Nicks

[Parks]

with that Jaylen Brunson. Pablo. Pablo, what we doing? Pablo, what we doing? And he made rnba me. So you know what that mean, Max. Jaylen did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Pablo, Unless you get another mysterious congratulations. Where Pablo at?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, congratulations, Jaylen Brunson. Mark, do you want to give us, you know. You know, you are our eulogy eulogy guy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

You don't really do it when the whites die. I thought you was going to march something.

[Parks]

I thought you was going to mark for something else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I did one for Hulk Hogan.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm trying to. I'm trying to start with love.

[Parks]

All right, let's get him there then.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ted Turner.

[Joe Button]

Ted Turner.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

One of the giants. We might not be sitting here if not for Ted Turner.

[Joe Button]

No. My dad was gonna fuck my mom. That was happening. I was making my way to Earth, nigga. Whether Ted Turner was alive or not. Fuck he talking about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We might not be together, us as a crew. And I say that because Ted Turner was such an influence, influential figure in media. You know, we take for granted that you can turn on TV at any time and watch the news.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you say There was no 24 hour news before they were CNN. And at the time, it was an unpopular concept. People watch the news at 5 o', clock, 6 o', clock, or 10 o', clock, and then they go to bed. Now, the idea that you can have it 24, seven, change the game. The idea that people will be on TV arguing with each other starts really with Crossfire and. And now that's all TV is. And there's certainly a whole lot of podcasting.

[Joe Button]

Thanks for that, Mona. Mona. Contributing. Y' all doing great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all killing this. But Ted Turner. Ted Turner was a visionary. He was a philanthropist. He was somebody who was always thinking about new ideas. Even when he creates. You got cnn, you got tbs, tnt, tnt. And then you got him developing shows like Captain Planet, Cartoon Network, Cartoon Network in 92. I think he created that. I mean, you're talking about just a whole array of stuff that, again, we now take for granted in terms of specialized, boutique niche programming. He did so much of that. He also forayed into wrestling and was the first person to really give the modern WWF a run for their money. When he went with wcw, when he invested in Midwestern Wrestling and became WCW or ultimately the nw. And so even they eventually sold it to the wwf. But he created something different. He was always creating something different. He was also a philanthropist. He was also, by a lot of accounts, a great person. I never got to meet. Ted seemed to be pretty decent.

[Ish]

As far as billionaires go. Back to your. There's no good billionaires kind of thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. As far as those people go, he was as good as it was gonna get.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, still, I'm Sure.

[Ish]

He probably had some bullshit, too.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, you can't own CNN and not be tied up in bullshit. You know what I mean? You're tied into War Machine. You're tied into. I mean, there's lots of things that's fucked up about it, just to be clear. Yeah, but as far as those people go, you know what I mean? He did the best he could without giving it up. He threw that.

[Ish]

I shouldn't have. I should have shook up.

[Joe Button]

My bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just fired it back. I'm just Austin Riverdead.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit. No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But, yeah, so you know Ted Turner. I've always admired his visionary mind and his spirit. So, you know, and salute to him and everyone who loved him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Rest in peace.

[Parks]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

Well said. Well said, Mark. We'll keep it right on you. Did you hear about Stefan Diggs? Found. Found not guilty.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, take a sip.

[Ish]

Before we were done recording.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

Skinny hair on his chinny chin chin.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I read some of the court stuff after we talked and all of that. So I wasn't supposed to.

[Joe Button]

Surprise.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Doesn't change anything. I said I don't think I had a different position than y' all had.

[Ish]

I think you were just generalizing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You were just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. My point was about the. The only thing I disagree with was the idea that having that coming back to the spot or dancing on video means that you couldn't have been a victim of dv.

[Joe Button]

Right. Yeah. But in that particular case, why it was highlighted is because they asked her after the incident, what was your pass pain level? Between 1 and 10. And she said 10 is what I was saying, which they highlighted. You were seen dancing days after it was that coupled with what she said?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, I wasn't disputing the details of the case. I hadn't even seen the case yet. I was just saying for the broader audience, I don't want to normalize the idea that because someone does X, they couldn't have been a victim of Y. In this particular case, you all made a whole argument about why her case or her argument was wasn't credible or why her claims weren't credible. I didn't see the case, so I. I can't speak to it.

[Ish]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

You never see the cases when they lying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I literally didn't notice.

[Joe Button]

What we saying about you?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I don't. I don't. I didn't see the story. I don't know the story. I. I can't say I believe you, but I didn't see the story, so I couldn't speak to it. That's why I didn't contribute. And y' all kept saying, mark, don't you have something to say? Mark, don't you have something to say? Cuz it was. It was that. It's the. It's the pander to the red pill segment of the show. But I couldn't really play with y' all because I hadn't seen it.

[Joe Button]

So out of here. Get it.

[Mona]

You tried it.

[Joe Button]

No. No.

[Parks]

You tried it.

[Joe Button]

No. You tried it.

[Parks]

You tried it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I told y'. All.

[Joe Button]

Let him get his bag.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I told y' all I hadn't seen the case. And you still.

[Parks]

Why you ain't seen the case?

[Joe Button]

You see the other cases. You see everything.

[Parks]

Why you ain't seen the case?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't see every case I saw.

[Parks]

No, I'm talking all these type of cases.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You think I read the. The. You think I read the details of every.

[Joe Button]

I'm saying the celebrity D case don't help your man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You name two.

[Parks]

Sell every DD I. I can't name them.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. What I'm saying is I don't see the details of every case y' all said you do. This is stupid. Y' all said that she.

[Mona]

The criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered sexually ha Y city to dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Joke Button body.

[Parks]

These are their stories.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So this becomes the framing. As if, like Mark refuses to admit to Stephanie. Get.

[Mona]

No,

[Parks]

no, never that.

[Mona]

You always look that way first. Mark. No freedom.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I literally said I don't have anything to say about the case. Cuz I did. I hadn't read it.

[Joe Button]

That's what we said.

[Mona]

He let a ho. At the end of the day, we

[Joe Button]

saying the same thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, what I'm saying is I didn't know whether she was innocent or guilty. Whether he was innocent or guilty.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That wasn't what you were saying.

[Mona]

Don't fit. You must have quit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Baby, y' all got it. But, but, but.

[Parks]

Move it, move, move it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Moving on. My point was again, and I would say it again, she may have.

[Joe Button]

That was a good one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was good.

[Ish]

I got as quick as I could.

[Joe Button]

Can you let Mark close? Go ahead. Mark that.

[Mona]

This is Joe Blimbanket again. We don't land nothing over here.

[Joe Button]

Not even points, nigga. Hey.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, she could have been the biggest liar in the world. My only point was, and I maintain it, and I think you agreed with me. At the time. And actually, Joe actually ultimately agreed, too.

[Ish]

Too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we all agree.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why. I don't know why this is weird talking. Mark.

[Parks]

We all agree with the point,

[Joe Button]

but

[Parks]

because you know how you usually land on these.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How I hate domestic violence.

[Joe Button]

See?

[Parks]

Trying it again.

[Joe Button]

I got a weird quirk. I got a weird quirk. Well, no. You believe all women.

[Mona]

As he should.

[Joe Button]

That part. That part.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What does that mean?

[Joe Button]

Because it means sometimes they lie.

[Mona]

Oh.

[Joe Button]

And when they lie. And when they lie, you know, you happen to not see the case.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's what he said.

[Joe Button]

That's what we say.

[Parks]

That's what he said.

[Joe Button]

But we can move on. So we can move on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We can move on after I respond.

[Mona]

Don't engage, Mark. Don't engage. You're better than them. You're a doctor, Mark.

[Parks]

This we going to talk about the honorary degrees, too?

[Joe Button]

I'm just playing.

[Parks]

I'm playing.

[Joe Button]

Mine Is it a doctor? Mine is. Is he a doctor?

[Mona]

He's a doctor.

[Joe Button]

Please, please. I don't know. We don't know. No. Hey. Ish. We figure this ain't even a doctor. Ish. This been up here with this fugazi honorary.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What we just talking about? I forgot the fact Mark's not in

[Mona]

the mood for this childish bullshit.

[Joe Button]

No, no. We are too childish for Mark saved you lies. The Internet keeps saying when Mark contract is up, he gonna run so far from.

[Ish]

Mark loves it here.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Parks]

Yeah, I got Mark up.

[Joe Button]

No, but that's what I'm so comfortable with.

[Mona]

This boy, he couldn't wait. Couldn't wait to take that suit off.

[Joe Button]

Did y' all see Stefan Diggs after was over when she walked out. Get a little look at that ass. He said come get a little look at that ass.

[Parks]

Hey, and run it back.

[Mona]

He might be a sex addict.

[Joe Button]

You don't say.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you, Ma.

[Mona]

I told y' all about them types up here before. Y' all argue me down. But it don't matter because the Internet said I was right and y' all just didn't hear me.

[Joe Button]

Wait. We argue down about sex addicts.

[Mona]

I told y' all that. In my experience. And this has nothing to do with Stefan Diggs, But I told y' all men that are like, super. They men. They get real rapey and they. I told y' all that.

[Joe Button]

You did. But who argued? What you.

[Mona]

The whole.

[Joe Button]

All of y'. All.

[Mona]

Y' all want me to bring it up?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Every single one of y' all argue with her.

[Parks]

He saw that one.

[Joe Button]

Hey, AI, he's so well researched sometimes, huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you just listen to her.

[Mona]

Oh, you.

[Parks]

That's all you had to do is

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

listen to him for one time.

[Mona]

This nice.

[Ish]

Not playing with nice.

[Mona]

Y' all going to learn one day ain't nothing humble bouting dog y' all up here dog walk you. Anyway, I sat in here with y' all and I said. In fact, one of y' all might have bit my head off. I'm not gonna point at nobody.

[Joe Button]

Come on. Damn.

[Mona]

That's crazy. I said. I said guys that are super sexual, y', all, like. I don't know if I don't remember was niggas playing or what, but the whole thing was like. Well, that don't mean nothing. And of course, it isn't an automatic thing. Mr. Player. Player's all these bitches. But I'm saying, when you get to a certain age, you get to a certain status in life, you get like, you can't be on college boy right at 40, 50. And you're not a celebrity. You're not. That's weird. Even like, yo, y' all hang around your one of your is always chasing y' all can't never get a brusque. You can't never chill because this always chasing that shit's strange. When it gets a little extreme. Those guys, from what I know what I see, those guys tend to be super freaks. The guy that got arrested for doing that to that little girl, right? His sister testified. Remember all these girls were him in that town. He had five, six girlfriends at the meeting.

[Parks]

You know that one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got the court minutes right here. Say something important. Can you let her talk about this? An assault without laughing.

[Ish]

Listen to women.

[Parks]

I hate this nigga.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, Mona.

[Mona]

First of all, I'm trans.

[Parks]

No, I'm talking about him.

[Mona]

But I don't care. And I don't fuck with none of y'. All. Cause sometimes I don't get the jokes. But I feel like y' all making fun of me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't worry.

[Mona]

When you don't get the. And you a little slow, you fight everybody in here. And that's what I want y' all to know.

[Parks]

I still off on one of y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Parks]

She saying that cuz Juicy here.

[Mona]

Oh, of course.

[Parks]

That's.

[Joe Button]

She ain't tough without Juicy.

[Parks]

I know she ain't been like that last week.

[Mona]

Yeah, she love us when I stand on what I say. And the girls at home and some of the guys still know what I'm talking about. Super freaking freaky. Watch him. Watch him. I'm telling you, girl, here your cat?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Mona]

That the cat or the dog? There's something wrong with that. You wonder why that cat keep hollering like that when you get off work. He that cat.

[Joe Button]

Girl.

[Mona]

I'm telling you, he doing something to that cat. Y' all think it's a joke? People put peanut butter on their asses and let the dog eat their asses out.

[Joe Button]

I've seen that. Wild.

[Parks]

I've seen that.

[Mona]

It's a boring. Don't judge me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry.

[Parks]

You be scrolling and you see some boys.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's wrong?

[Mona]

Y' all never seen a dog eat an ass?

[Parks]

I I've seen the dog. I said, wow. Y' all doing a lot.

[Joe Button]

You and Mona got a lot in common.

[Parks]

We just sound alike. That's it.

[Mona]

Good for us.

[Parks]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

We.

[Parks]

We real.

[Mona]

You wish you had this in common.

[Parks]

Talk to him, Mona.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Mona]

I could scare a climbing to my window. Get the out my house.

[Joe Button]

Ain't nobody leaving off y' all little girl with no shade. I love you. I love. I love you.

[Mona]

I love Rim Rem says. Oh, my God. Get out of my house. They're not leaving. They going to tie you up. What?

[Joe Button]

Parks, you right.

[Mona]

If I was your. I'm backing this off voice only. I put you voice text Parks in my house is going back out the window. Come on, bro. A my window. Parks. You know what I say? Yes. I've been waiting all month to kill a these fighting to get out. Yes. I haven't ate a home intruder in a year. I'm with that homie to come my room Park. Stop sliding my head in the wall. Yes. A gangster. Don't forget it, boy.

[Parks]

Yeah, I better stop playing with Mona.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Word.

[Ish]

I feel safer already.

[Joe Button]

Word.

[Mona]

Joe Button said the only time my voice is appealing is when you're looking for oxtails or macaroni and cheese or a muffler. That hurt. I ain't going to lie.

[Joe Button]

I want. I want motor boys with me if we going out to Steel Rims Catal converters.

[Mona]

Can I talk to you for a second? When I was a little kid, they would call cuz I had a single mother. Park.

[Parks]

My mother had to work as a little kid.

[Joe Button]

A that's your man.

[Parks]

And that's your man you go to.

[Mona]

B in the sky. I love you too. They would call my house, they would say, hey, hello. Is Wanda home? And I would say, no, she not. And they would say, oh, is this her son?

[Ish]

I'm sorry you went through that.

[Mona]

That's trauma.

[Parks]

That's wronged up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's up.

[Ish]

That's wrong.

[Mona]

That's when I started cursing. No, you. It's not her son.

[Ish]

And that convinced him, right?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right.

[Mona]

That'll show it's not right. We can't h how I sound, fellas.

[Joe Button]

Do we care at all about. About the. Well, I care about all the aftermath of Met Gala, but some of the birdier topics from it was asap. ASAP and Rihanna. ASAP and Rihanna argument that they have since cleared up to let people know that there was no tension. That lets us know that there was absolutely tension. Hey, the lip readers already caught y' all in the van. The.

[Mona]

You can't even argue with your bitch at the.

[Parks]

They was in a little Sprinter or something. And you know, the motherfuckers got the video through the window and energy looked a little different.

[Joe Button]

Well, they got the video of what the Internet thinks caused the fight, which was Rihanna, the bathroom joint standing. I don't know if that was by the bathroom, but Rihanna was just standing around waiting while ASAP was behind her talking to a girl. Girl. There was a lot of laughing. The girl was touchy, touchy feely, feel. Did y' all see this video?

[Ish]

I didn't see that.

[Joe Button]

All right, so I'm gonna show y'

[Parks]

all the video then while you did

[Joe Button]

this so I could show y' all the video. So we.

[Parks]

Did you see the bathroom selfie? No, cuz, you know the Met Gala thing is the bathroom selfie, right? Like, cuz there's no phones allowed, so they do that in the bathroom. So in the bathroom, it's a group of them. It's usually it be about six, seven people in the picture. So in this one, ASAP is standing here. I forget the other people next to him. Rihanna's bent over like her head is towards him, but Damson is behind her and it's like it almost looked like she throwing ass on. On old boy. So people thought the argument was over that.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no, no, no. Let me see this video. All right, Paul, pause this. I'm showing y' all the video. Okay, we're back and we've seen the video. Indeed. Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts.

[Parks]

It was some smoke there.

[Mona]

I think they think somebody pissed.

[Parks]

Yeah, she was.

[Mona]

She looked. Whatever happened in advance was set the tone. I. I disagree with Joe at first that it didn't. It seemed pretty innocent until that walked back over there.

[Parks]

Was this before or after the van?

[Joe Button]

This is before the van.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, so the van fight is because of this?

[Parks]

No, she was Already hot. She was hot before that. Before that. She was hot before that.

[Mona]

And she, like, she was hot. That dress heavy is moving.

[Joe Button]

I agree with y'. All. It look like she was hot before this. It looks like this is insult to injury. And. And by the time we get to

[Parks]

the van and now I want to know when that bathroom picture took place.

[Mona]

But this is nothing, right? Just a fight.

[Parks]

But of course, I mean, you. It ain't like it's over. We break.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We.

[Parks]

You know, we fighting right now. We leave it. It's up right now.

[Mona]

That's a couple.

[Parks]

I might sleep. I might sleep on this side, and you sleep over there tonight, but we'll be all right tomorrow.

[Mona]

Like celebrity couples. But I like them a lot.

[Joe Button]

Why you not supposed to like celebrity couples?

[Mona]

I. I don't think you're not supposed to like them, but I think that people are weird when they're super invested and they so upset. That shit's strange.

[Parks]

That's weird.

[Mona]

You know what I mean? And even. Even loving the loving. Being a fan of somebody so much that now it's like you go with the too. That's weird to me. But I do enjoy them as a couple. I feel like I liked him even more when he got with her. I ain't going to lie. I always thri with that, though.

[Joe Button]

Before we leave, this Rihanna stuff, is there anything to make of the Rihanna Tyler situation from the Met gala that has the people up in all arms?

[Parks]

I think these people in industry be stupid. I think that for Shorty to even publicly come out with that is stupid to me.

[Joe Button]

Tyler.

[Parks]

Tyler.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Parks]

Like, if Rihanna dubbed you one, you don't know if it was intentional or not.

[Ish]

It's Rihanna.

[Parks]

But number two, dog, why would you come out with it publicly? I just think these.

[Joe Button]

Because she's a big fan of Rihanna.

[Parks]

All right, so.

[Joe Button]

And everybody knows that she's a big fan.

[Parks]

I mean, it's of kind. Clear.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So, I mean, that's why. Yeah.

[Ish]

But shouldn't go on your Instagram live and talk about her. Tik Tok, whatever.

[Mona]

You love her so much. Why is.

[Parks]

Why would you do that? If you really love her now? If she did it unintentionally, the next time I see you now you definitely getting. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, if it was a mistake, it was a mistake. But Tyler's young. She, like, impress all these young Internet.

[Joe Button]

The microphone, baby. You just talking.

[Mona]

I'm.

[Joe Button]

You just doing me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So.

[Joe Button]

It's not a comedy show. This is a podcast. Yeah.

[Parks]

I Just think it's whack.

[Ish]

It's kind of.

[Parks]

I just think.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that part too.

[Parks]

Yeah. I don't like it. I think these. It's. It's like I said.

[Joe Button]

Did you see the video of both of them waiting for the. Waiting for their rides? Oh, because she saw her. It wasn't no way to not see her. She's standing right there, there.

[Parks]

And again, we just seen Rihanna already

[Joe Button]

high in my boob.

[Parks]

Yeah, like, already.

[Ish]

And I'm Rihanna.

[Joe Button]

And I'm Rihanna.

[Ish]

I don't address someone if I don't feel like addressing them.

[Parks]

And you like my mini me, I might not address you at all.

[Joe Button]

See, that's where Shady Messy Joe was going. But I won't.

[Parks]

I'm just saying, like, you said, like,

[Joe Button]

you know, Rihanna seeing you, girl, and

[Parks]

she made her imitation is the best form of flattery. But I might not be flattered. Or no dog.

[Joe Button]

And Sony or whatever her label is, keep trying to pit her as this new Rihanna. That's the real Rihanna there right now.

[Parks]

Get the. Away from me.

[Joe Button]

Go.

[Parks]

Do you over there. Don't come. Don't move. And I'm hot already.

[Mona]

Move. She don't smoke.

[Joe Button]

And in Celebrity Line, you'll meet people when you're supposed to meet them.

[Ish]

That part.

[Joe Button]

And Thailand went as far as to say some of the same thing. So just clean it up.

[Ish]

Cleaned it up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Parks]

Somebody got in the air, yo. Clean that shit up.

[Mona]

Did you see? The other lip sync situation is much more positive. It was Beyonce talking to Blue. They got all these clips of Beyonce. Like, oh, I'm so proud. Like, people will be asking Beyonce, are you happy? She'd be like, yes, because of my baby. Like, more than once she says, no, because my baby's here. No, because my baby looks so beautiful. When Blue comes to stand with her for a photo op, she goes, you look beautiful, babe. And Blue says, thank you. Then you go, take another picture. She says, jay, come here. Look at her. She's beautiful.

[Ish]

I felt bad for Jay a little bit.

[Mona]

Black Dynasty.

[Joe Button]

No, they have to stop them.

[Mona]

Dumb ass dreads.

[Joe Button]

They have to stop asking. They have to stop asking.

[Ish]

Beyonce, here's Jay Z. And you gotta just, like, wait down the. Why are you saying other end of the stairs?

[Mona]

They have to accept what.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they do.

[Ish]

I say, he's Jay Z. He's gotta wait at the other end of the stage.

[Mona]

Not you. It's these fathers playing games.

[Joe Button]

I'm not playing games.

[Ish]

I think they killed all three of them.

[Mona]

Stop asking. What? Who?

[Joe Button]

They need to Stop asking Beyonce questions.

[Mona]

Why?

[Joe Button]

For all the reasons you just said.

[Parks]

Because you're not gonna get an answer.

[Joe Button]

It's like Comedy Central now I'm saying it. The night said Beyonce. You haven't been here in 10 years. This is your first time back at the gal. How does it feel? Well, it feels amazing because Blue is here.

[Mona]

That's what she said.

[Joe Button]

And she's gorgeous.

[Mona]

She is.

[Parks]

And you know, be me a little.

[Joe Button]

Yo, with respect, she be a little. You know what I mean?

[Mona]

I mean, Blue's there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right?

[Joe Button]

I'm not doing this.

[Mona]

It's fucking Blue Ivy. Ever since. She looks so cute with her little suit jacket.

[Joe Button]

That's awesome. And you're a mom, so you feel how you feel. But you're also Beyonce, so.

[Mona]

But that's Blue Ivy.

[Joe Button]

All right, you got. I'm done.

[Mona]

Anyway, like I said, great moment. All positivity coming from our queen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Word.

[Mona]

Standing on.

[Ish]

They all look great.

[Mona]

I wish this to get crazy.

[Parks]

They look nice.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Well, you bought it behind.

[Mona]

I don't know what you want to call it. I give respect when it's due.

[Parks]

Just don't say about Blue Ivy.

[Mona]

Right. Or the mother.

[Joe Button]

Wait, who says.

[Mona]

Talk about the dad. Move on, Joey.

[Joe Button]

All right, I do have one last topic that's near and dear to my heart, but we have a special news break before that. That's the 1010 wins. She didn't. She didn't have a radio. She didn't have a radio.

[Mona]

That's why I couldn't. Go ahead, Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

For those that don't know, there is a. A. A virus called the hantavirus, which is. Yes, it's an important.

[Joe Button]

Who is naming these shits?

[Ish]

I think this one's been around for a while.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's been around for a long time.

[Joe Button]

That's what they said about the last one.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It is same thing. And it's a virus that comes from rat shit, right? Yeah, I was gonna say a little different, but yes. Yes. The excrement of rodents, including rats, but others too.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it can. The death rates of em. Very high if you actually get the infection. Whereas, like with COVID it was like 3 or 4%. With people who were infected with this, it's like. And it's like. I think it's like 15. Somewhere between 15 and 25%. So if you get it, it's bad. There was a cruise ship that was. The vessel was actually on the water and had a very dangerous situation where people were sent home because of potential exposure as of now no one has shown any positive tests and they're doing a trace to find out where people came from and who they've been in contact with to make sure we stay on top of this. But the danger is if this were to spread back to the United States, back to Europe, it could end up being a major, major, major public health disaster. As of now.

[Parks]

As of now, did they dock the cruise ship yet?

[Mona]

Especially with Trump?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they did.

[Ish]

They released the passengers off.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So right now people are just quarantining and being safe. But I just want to keep people's eye on it because y' all remember this little thing that happened six years ago.

[Ish]

It sounds a little familiar.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So just keep your eyes open. But I think we're okay. The one downside, and this is the reason why I mentioned it also is we don't have the same mechanisms we should have had had to oversee it. We're not in a world health organization. We also had people whose job it is to. To analyze this very thing. And I think 61 of them were fired by. By Robert F. Kennedy Jr. So we're just not prepared for if a crisis happening.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to wear no mask again.

[Parks]

Let me just ask a question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think we will have to, but I think we're going to be okay. But just keep watching.

[Parks]

If it do happen again. Are they doing the PPP loans again? Again?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Didn't you get enough last time?

[Parks]

You get one last time. That's the thing. Ever come back again, I'm. I'm not going to.

[Mona]

Oh, please. We will never get that again. I'm so tight, you losers for being judged.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hopefully nobody dies. I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

You sitting here saying the fate of the world is talking about. He talking about getting 1700.

[Parks]

1700. You know what?

[Mona]

Going out with a.

[Joe Button]

We'll get you 1700.

[Parks]

Yo, it wasn't 17 that the was getting. Yeah, don't tell.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

250.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God.

[Mona]

Don't tell his rich ass something crazy.

[Parks]

And he got it forgiven.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was the beautiful part.

[Ish]

I'm not going on no cruise ship.

[Mona]

We safe. Yo. I think cruises are so gross. I think it's like a. What's that thing? The small smart one when the. A peach tree dish. That's what I think. And people just get on it and. And get drunk and get sick and it's gross. I've never been on and I never will. Why would I want to go to an island where I have to travel 3 days on the boat? 6 days on the boat. I could just fly to Santa.

[Joe Button]

No on God. However, the Ritz Carlton cruise looks amazing. The Four Seasons cruise and Armand Cruise.

[Ish]

Well, hopefully there's no one eating rat.

[Joe Button]

There's no hopefully about it.

[Ish]

I'm sure.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's how it happened.

[Ish]

They probably got cats.

[Joe Button]

I've never been on a cruise.

[Parks]

I love.

[Mona]

This is something that's not appealing to me. I don't like humans that much. To be locked in them. You mean that gross to me.

[Parks]

You ain't got to be around.

[Mona]

It's a hallway full of. Gonna go get Belgian waffles together as a unit. This shit strange. All down there hovering.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I love that.

[Mona]

To get a margarita. No, with strangers. Now you want a picture and a hug?

[Parks]

Yo, Mona, wind up at a sex off a carnival.

[Mona]

I've never been on a cruise, period. I've never been on cruise, period. I don't like the idea everything you say like that, but you sound like that.

[Parks]

You go to resorts.

[Mona]

I don't even really like resorts. I've done resorts, but I prefer to stay with the people where the people at. That's how I like to vacate. I don't like resorts. When you all separate from her. Everybody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just a couple quick facts just because I was trying to pull up my numbers real fast, just so people have context. Three people on that ship have already died.

[Ish]

Rest in peace.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There were five infections. So just to give you some context, 147 people on the ship, 88 passengers, 59 crew members. Those on board represent 23 nationalities, including 17Americans.

[Parks]

So this means this has a longer incubation period. So, like, it's not like Covid, where

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you see symptoms and that's why the corn quarantine it.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So I'm just saying we're not out of the woods again. It's still considered low risk.

[Mona]

What's this called?

[Parks]

Hanta.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So keep your fingers crossed and rest

[Joe Button]

in peace to those people. Yeah, that's horrible. Speaking of rest in peace. Again, rest in peace to my girl, Ashley Janae Robinson. I will not stop bringing this up until her friends and family get clarity and closure. Pardon me as to what's been going on. And as you all know, I went to her homegoing on Monday. The day after they had her services. They had. They had her funeral. And I could. I, of course I was staying far away from that, but I paid my respects and I just wanted to talk about it because her fiance, which I'm even sick to my stomach calling this her fiance now, but that Is dude. Yeah. Homeboy P picked her funeral date to hit the Internet with all of these words. Just mumbo jumbo salad. I guess he called himself eulogizing her or memorializing her, but I won't read it. I just thought the act itself was really disgusting. I thought it was classless. I feel like he is now taunting the family. He even had the nerve to mention the family in this word salad bullshit

[Parks]

that he put out.

[Joe Button]

I feel like he's now taking advantage of the fact that this happened over there in Tanzania.

[Parks]

What happened, where he can control it a little bit better.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. But I feel like he maybe think that people didn't love her. So this is just going away or being swept under the rug. And I'm not gonna stop bringing this up.

[Parks]

It might not be that people didn't love her, has gone away. It's just like you said, it happened over there and over there in them type of countries, money talks. So y' all could love as much as you want. You can't do nothing. That might be his mindset.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but I don't fuck his mindset. He been around for a hot two years. I'm not gonna let none of his actions and behavior taint who she was and how great she was and how loved she was. Was. And the family, mom and dad, family and friends. They keeping it classy. Like, they keeping it cute. He a little tone deaf. Like they not really coming to the news and coming public with what they think. I'm sure. So why are you. Why would you. It's bad enough that when. When she. When she passed, you didn't reach out to the family. It's bad enough that you haven't said a word this entire time, probably under instruction from.

[Mona]

From.

[Joe Button]

From your attorney. But you've had time to change your profile pic on Instagram. You've had time to tweet about crypto. You've not said one word about your deceased fiance until the day of her funeral. I think that's odd.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I think it's real nasty. It's disgusting. And I don't. I don't know. That's not my ministry. I just didn't want that to go. Go unsaid because that was absolutely disgusting. There's too many of us that love Ashley that saw that and was a bit taken aback. So I'm gonna put it back in God's hands and hopefully we'll get some justice for this thing. That's Joe Budden saying justice, not Ashley's family. That's me saying justice. So, yeah, I'm disgusted by homeboy.

[Mona]

A blessing that you are in her life. And I know exactly what you're talking about when you say he's not counting for how many people left love her. Because even though it happens somewhere where you can get over in 2026 and we're on our phones all day, if you have a friend with a platform this big, a family that loves you to death, loves you enough that they gonna hold back, they're gonna make enough noise. I've never even seen a cousin talking shit online. They are really being classy about this. All of them, even their friends, have these real professional statements. The family said this. Don't say nothing about this. Just pray for us. So you come like that. That is you assuming that she don't have nobody pushing for her. And everybody pushing for her can get locked up. That's a fact. It's 2026 and then all that that

[Joe Button]

he said it sound like Chad GPT in the first place. It didn't sound like authentic. Like, it just. It was a mess. It was an absolute mess. And a show. I'm sure some people out there will say, well, the day her funeral is the day she was probably on his mind. I don't want to hear none of that. You didn't say a word before. It just seems a little taunting thing. It seems. It's. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. Absolutely disgusting. I won't go as far as to say the gentleman because we waiting to get hard. Hard facts on this, but that was nasty. Real, real, real nasty, homeboy.

[Mona]

I've said them on every platform I'm on. They just wanted to make sure him coming from. Don't call me white girl.

[Joe Button]

Angel button.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Parks]

Now he's guilty. That's all I got.

[Joe Button]

Ashley. Rest in peace. I miss you and I love you. Of course. Course I'm on this case. I know you up there laughing. Glad I'm on this case. You know I ain't letting it go.

[Mona]

I got a friend like you.

[Joe Button]

I'm not letting it go.

[Parks]

Don't let it go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That Stay on it.

[Joe Button]

No, that was my dad.

[Mona]

I got powerful friends. You ain't gonna let nobody do nothing to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the great thing about this platform. Facts.

[Mona]

What?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't have anything else that's near and dear to my heart.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all might want to stay inside. By the way. We. I just got an update from one of my sources.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Ice is safe. Ice been inside. Damn right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The new Jersey Department of Health just notified. Well, it was notified by the Centers for the Disease Control and Prevention at two of the hantavirus infections. New Jersey.

[Mona]

Let's get the fuck up out of here. I told you that shit. Juice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the only thing we can do is wrap up the show and go home.

[Mona]

Let me put my sneaks on. Always some Jersey morning. Yeah, for sure.

[Parks]

South Jersey, y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Parks]

Y' all still in danger.

[Mona]

It's not south, it's north.

[Joe Button]

Y' all still in danger.

[Parks]

East Philly.

[Joe Button]

Hey, they wasn't here for this issue. They wasn't there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, man.

[Joe Button]

Hopefully y' all have enjoyed enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you a new farewell. Adiosa riva dirti. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long goodbye. Or a simple head novel suffice. Hold up, Craig. Let Craig get his bed. I was so young. I had no idea until recently that this hook is just all about what the parents were saying. Yeah, I was just jamming.

[Parks]

I didn't really know why. Were you sleeping around with shadows moving through the bed?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. And you know what? Before I end this, as much as I did not love the Michael Jackson movie in theaters, I came in here and told you about what I do love. Love is all of the Michael moments that it's making people talk about. Like, I see the drummer from Smooth and what I didn't know Snapple fact is that Human Nature, the co writer on that song, it's from Toto, right? Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah. Toto Africa.

[Joe Button]

He said that song, the group. All right, never mind. But. But he was saying that the song Human Nature just came from him picking up his daughter from school and a boy had hit her and he was trying to explain his daughter why that may be happening. Like the boy may like you and yada, yada, yada. And that's where Human. I said, well, that's great. I love these Michael facts that are coming out.

[Ish]

I do also want to say I went and saw Double Wears Prada this weekend. And. And I think between that and Michael Jackson, I haven't seen a theater that packed in maybe my entire life. Like, the line was out. You went to see Devil? I did. My wife's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I wasn't.

[Ish]

It was actually pretty good.

[Parks]

I'm going to see it tomorrow.

[Ish]

Yeah, it's actually pretty good.

[Parks]

Don't worry.

[Ish]

I thought it was gonna be cringey. But it wasn't like they did like modern, like a fake Elon in there. And I thought it was gonna be bad, but it was actually pretty good.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, the first one was more than fire.

[Ish]

And Hathaway is one of them ones, too. She look great on that gala.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel, and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Distinguished panel. What is on everybody agenda for the weekend? What are y' all doing for the weekend? Mother's Day.

[Parks]

It's Mother's Day.

[Joe Button]

It's Mother's Day. Wait. Happy Mother's Day, Mom. I love you. You are the best mom ever. Thank you so much. Happy Mother's Day to Mona. Big Demon. Don't cry. Oh, okay. Keep a thug face.

[Parks]

Happy Mother's Day, Mom.

[Joe Button]

Baby, baby.

[Parks]

Moms love all y'.

[Joe Button]

All. Yeah. Happy Mother's Day to my bms out there, too. Y' all deserve it. Y' all deserve. All the mothers.

[Parks]

All the mothers.

[Joe Button]

Mothers out there. All right, so what are y' all doing this weekend?

[Mona]

Happy Mother's Day to my baby.

[Ish]

Celebrating moms.

[Joe Button]

Celebrating moms.

[Ish]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

Going down south to celebrate mom. That's right. That's right. That's right. Take moms to Cracker Barrel. That's right. That. Yeah. That's right, Mark. Take your mom to Barrel.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Barrel.

[Joe Button]

What am I doing this weekend? What am I doing this weekend? I have no idea. Go, Nicks. Go Nick. That's all I got for y', all, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. Here we go. Work. Shout out to Craig David, too. Man. Craig David got more slaps than won't give him credit for.

[Parks]

This album was amazing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it was. This album was so fly. I didn't even know he was from over there. I thought that nigga was from Brooklyn or something. You know why mom and Dad.

[Parks]

Change them clothes.

[Joe Button]

Yo, we'll be back next week, same time, same place. Everybody enjoy their weekend. Stay safe. Tell your mother you love her. Take her somewhere nice. Don't forget a card and some flowers if you really like that. We going. This was great. This was a vibe. Good times. You off and out of green. I don't give a. Charlie Horse.

[Mona]

Look how hard he smile. He like it too much.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm from the weber n. It's the network.