Episode 928 | "Money, Muscles & Movement"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 928 | "Money, Muscles & Movement" (May 13, 2026)
Host: Joe Budden | The Joe Budden Network
Featured Hosts: Mark Lamont Hill, Queens Flip, Big Freeze Crushed Ice, Ish, Parks

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Episode Overview

Episode 928 brings the classic Joe Budden Podcast energy: unfiltered, comedic, and at times introspective banter between Joe Budden and his sprawling cast of friends. This episode, titled “Money, Muscles & Movement,” covers friendship dynamics, the fallout from the NBA playoffs (with a heavy Knicks vs. Sixers slant), music industry controversies, a deep-dive into the Kevin Hart Netflix roast, hot takes on watches and branding, internet hit pieces, and the drama around Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s credentials.

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Key Themes & Discussion Points

1. Support Hate & Friendship Dynamics

[00:27–07:00]

• The crew debates the fine line between genuine support, hating, and fake friendships.
• Joe accuses Queens Flip of “support hate” (checking in only when something goes wrong).
• Mark and Flip debate whether being extra supportive is “compensating for something.”
• The gang roasts each other over who is the “friendliest” and who chases relationships for clout, especially with “money, muscles, and movement.”

Notable Quote:

“You chase relationships with people that got money, muscles, and movement.”
— Joe Budden (04:41)

2. Knicks vs. Sixers NBA Playoffs Fallout

[18:21–37:00]

• Lengthy, playful, but pointed recapping of the Sixers’ blowout loss to the Knicks in the playoffs.
• Mark Lamont Hill, a noted Philly fan, laments the embarrassment of Knicks fans taking over Philly’s arena—calling it a "black eye for Philadelphia."
• Joe (a Knicks fan) celebrates New York’s advance and discusses the spiritual high water mark for Knicks fans, comparing it to past team performances.
• Reflection on the Sixers' franchise troubles, listing heartbreaks and dysfunction.

Notable Quotes:

“Fans that were inside today, they said they're still proud of just how far this team has come. It was a painful end...”
— Cheyenne Bryant, guest appearance (17:52)

“Only three other teams in the history of the league have clinched a playoff series by 30 points or more … all three of those teams went on to win the championship!”
— Joe Budden (32:14)

3. Mother’s Day Recap & Family Talk

[38:12–47:22]

• Group retrospects on how they celebrated Mother's Day; reveals, missed visits, and gifts (details mostly withheld on-air for privacy).
• Mark touches on visiting his mom with his brother, while several others admit they couldn't be with their mothers but plan to make up for it.
• Tangents into splitting time between in-laws and parents as adults.

Notable Quote:

“The in-laws be like two moms—you gotta split the holidays.”
— Mark Lamont Hill (47:59)

4. Generational Wealth & Cutting Off Children

[48:19–52:07]

• Joe discusses his son Trey’s 25th birthday and the ongoing parental debate about when to stop supporting children financially.
• Explores real-world consequences and boundaries in Black families around wealth, inheritance, and responsibility.

Notable Exchange:

“At 25, cutting you off … at 25, you grown!”
— Joe Budden (48:31)

"Let him sweat a little bit."
— Queens Flip (50:31)

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5. Music Reviews: Chris Brown’s Album & Media Critique

[52:07–61:12]

• Heated discussion over the critical reception of Chris Brown’s latest album, especially Pitchfork’s 1.3/10 review.
• Mark says the album “got worse” for him after repeated listens; Queens Flip says it improved on him.
• Crew critiques media as being “reaction-bait” and agenda-driven, especially around reviews perceived as personal.

Notable Quotes:

“Chris Brown’s soulless, hit-chasing new album doesn’t justify his return to the public eye …”
— Queens Flip, reading Pitchfork headline (57:31)

“Pitchfork is just trying to get a rise. A 1.3? That’s just rage bait.”
— Big Freeze Crushed Ice (56:03)

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6. Kevin Hart’s Netflix Roast: Comedy, Race, and Ethics

[64:26–93:04]

• Panel deep-dives into the Netflix roast: who “killed,” who went too far, and the role/limits of race in comedy.
• Major criticism of white comic Kill Tony’s set (especially a George Floyd joke), and whether certain jokes or guests are appropriate at a Black cultural event.
• Contrasts Kevin Hart’s boundary-pushing with Dave Chappelle’s public persona; explores business vs. community respect.
• Praise for Cat Williams and the moment of public reconciliation with Kevin Hart.

Notable Quotes:

“Why do I need to see Kill Tony at a Black event for Black excellence like Kevin Hart?”
— Joe Budden (65:41)

“Kevin Hart … there’s not going to be a millisecond where [Dave Chappelle] appears to be cooned out.”
— Joe Budden (73:40)

7. Hit Pieces & Celebrity Finances

[94:00–96:13]

• Discussion of the suspicious timing of a negative Bloomberg article about Kevin Hart’s Heartbeat company dropping the day after the roast.
• Team notes the prevalence of media hit pieces around big cultural moments and debates the accuracy of celebrity financial reporting.

8. Caitlin Clark’s “Allegations” and the Politics of Association

[101:12–107:26]

• Caitlin Clark seen with country singer Morgan Wallen (noted for a racist slur incident) sparks debate: does this “look bad” for her given her audience and their perception as “racist”?
• Debate on whether athletes/celebs are obligated to “read the room” about those they associate with.
• Discussion of how “neutrality” is interpreted as “picking a side” in American racial politics.

Notable Quotes:

“Her fanbase is accused of being very racist … and for her to walk out with [Wallen], that’s a bad look.”
— Big Freeze Crushed Ice (101:11)

[See also: Mark Lamont Hill’s nuanced take on how famous Black and white athletes get claimed or rejected by their communities, 99:09–100:32]

9. Swatch x Audemars Piguet Watch Collab & Brand Exclusivity Debates

[108:05–124:35]

• The crew debates the Swatch × AP watch collab: Are AP customers “losing” because of cheaper versions? Does this kill “exclusivity”?
• DDG’s viral complaint: “I spent $200K … and now anyone can have the look?”
• Some cast argue it’s great for democratizing style/aspiration (IceWear Vezzo speech at 121:40); others point out the enduring value of “real” luxury versus mass branding.

Notable Quotes:

“If you own the real Royal Oak, nobody in the club’s going to confuse it with Swatch.”
— Joe Budden (111:08)

"Anybody that has money and has motion and can afford certain shit, if they got anything to say about AP dropping affordable watches, they weirdos and haters."
— Icewear Vezzo [playback, 121:40]

10. Credential Scrutiny: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s Degree

[135:49–147:48]

• The team reviews Cheyenne Bryant’s defense of her doctorate on The Breakfast Club following internet accusations her credentials are fake (due to her university closing and missing records).
• Scrutiny of her response, with Mark Lamont Hill (himself an academic) expressing skepticism about her explanation, but most hosts ultimately land on “does it really matter if she’s doing good work?”

Notable Quotes:

“The best thing to do is just post your dissertation … it would silence the critics.”
— Mark Lamont Hill (143:10)

“I agree with you, she don’t have to have it if she’s doing good work.”
— Ish (150:38)

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Additional Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Paul Pierce Makeup Analogy [166:44–172:07]:
  Paul’s public comments about women “lying” with makeup leads to the classic “catfish” debate about authenticity and attraction in dating.

  "If you never took off your makeup, that’s like cheating on me!” — Paul Pierce (168:45)

• Roast Recap: Cheryl Underwood’s White People Warning [178:04]:

  “She let them know real quick—try it and you won’t make it out alive.”
  — Queens Flip (178:14)

• Joe’s “slaps” story, accidental concert video (173:43–176:20):
  The crew roast Joe for filming a concert only to have the artist repeatedly “wag his dick” near Joe’s camera.

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Highlighted Timestamps

• Support Hate/Friendship Bit: 00:27–07:00
• NBA Playoff Fallout & Knicks-Sixers: 18:21–37:00
• Mother’s Day Recaps: 38:12–47:22
• Joe on Cutting Off Son Financially: 48:19–52:07
• Chris Brown Album and Pitchfork Drama: 52:07–61:12
• Kevin Hart Netflix Roast Analysis: 64:26–93:04
• Caitlin Clark-Morgan Wallen Segment: 101:12–107:26
• Swatch x AP Watch Debate: 108:05–124:35
• Cheyenne Bryant Degree Defense: 135:49–147:48

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Tone & Style

• Classic Joe Budden Podcast: irreverent, unfiltered, cutthroat banter, rapid inside jokes, and moments of real-world reflection.
• On sensitive topics (race, credentials, finances), the group is sometimes playful but can shift to sincerity and nuanced discussion.

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode gives a wide-angle view into the unique chemistry of Joe and his cast—moving from shallow pop culture to real social issues, and always looping it through their lived experience. If you love candid friendship debates, deep dives on music/entertainment, and skeptic takes on internet drama, “Money, Muscles & Movement” is a classic example of the JBP’s culture.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like that you like Terminator.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Queens Flip]

Jesus.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to the Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all trying to be like each other again. Corny. Calling each other like girls. Hey, you know what I'm wearing today? King yo, wear the lever. I got this, dude. Yeah, I think this is weird.

[Joe Button]

I don't speak to Ish unless I did something crazy on the Internet like my bank account leaked or some shit. Fuck it. That's when Ish called me. Yo, yo, you try to be cool, Nicole. That support hate. Yo, yo, you know what you just did? You look stupid. Yeah, it's a 48. So you good. It's a 48.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the hate part?

[Joe Button]

Cause you in your house rooting against me, but you calling me like, we friends, nigga. We don't talk. I don't need you to call me with nothing bad I did on the Internet.

[Queens Flip]

You know you contradicting yourself, right?

[Joe Button]

How?

[Queens Flip]

If I was in my house rooting against you, I wouldn't tell you. Take the dumb shit down.

[Joe Button]

That's support hate.

[Queens Flip]

No, it's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The hate is.

[Joe Button]

Ha ha.

[Queens Flip]

They about to roast this nigga over what he doing. That's hate.

[Joe Button]

First of all, I'm being jovial with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Queens Flip]

It doesn't make sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you always gotta explain to this nigga?

[Joe Button]

Because he get too. He'll say something about my family. Grandma explaining to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I see what he's saying. You don't do that. Yeah, talk to your man Ish. Don't do that. But. But it makes privileges this weekend or something. Look at Mish. Mish just jumped in for you. He's agreeing with you.

[Queens Flip]

He was a what?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He taught me. Your teacher jumped in for you and helped you. I was disagreeing. He's disagreeing with it don't matter. That's a trick. That's that support hate shit you have to be doing. Listen, he trying to act like he learn two words. Support, hate.

[Joe Button]

We can never just be you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, girls, but I got.

[Joe Button]

I got him in the school.

[Queens Flip]

He won't take a shot for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'mma show you I'm a real boss.

[Queens Flip]

I'mma put this work in for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

OG who is that on that neck? I know, I know. That's why you put the chain on today, huh? A slave to the man, boy. A slave to the system. Yeah. Got that chain on a little. I thought you was going to stand on your square. A slave to the system. Yeah. Look at you.

[Joe Button]

Ooh, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You talking to. You want it.

[Queens Flip]

You want it, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know how much time I'm on?

[Queens Flip]

I don't know what type of time you on One.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See who?

[Joe Button]

This was not the start we had. You're a support hater.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, you sound. Is he, though?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

No, he's not.

[Joe Button]

He really does.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not. He really is a thing, but he's not there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he's really supportive. I feel y'. All.

[Queens Flip]

He listen to, oh, she threw a shot at you.

[Joe Button]

He don't support hate y'. All.

[Queens Flip]

How he support hate you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's just like the most supportive person I know.

[Queens Flip]

He is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not even being funny.

[Queens Flip]

I want to know. He is.

[Joe Button]

I'm curious, but do you think he

[Mark Lamont Hill]

overcompensate by being that extra supportive? Because he do be a little extra supportive. It's a little bit too much for

[Joe Button]

a man like, oh, don't call me during an emergency if we don't normally talk.

[Queens Flip]

So when you call me, I'll be like, you know what, yo, I was overcompensating.

[Joe Button]

You call them, you have dialogue with them, you share, you get. That's where they got you at the end of the day. Because you be friends with them, they don't got you.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's been friends with you for over 20 years.

[Joe Button]

Yo,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

he know mad about you.

[Joe Button]

Yo, this is my man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But him, a lot of niggas is his man.

[Queens Flip]

That's his bag.

[Joe Button]

He my man.

[Queens Flip]

In real life, you don't got a lot of mans.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, you know that. A handful.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You have more men's than anybody in here put together.

[Queens Flip]

I wouldn't know that either.

[Joe Button]

Ish. Don't be foolish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not talking about one.

[Joe Button]

I think that's my man.

[Queens Flip]

That part might be true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not talking about one man when you say my man all the time. Yo, dog, my man did this.

[Joe Button]

That's Corey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Know him? He know one the same.

[Queens Flip]

No, he know a bunch of niggas that I know. Yo, fam, it's not my fault that I'm well loved. Outside, you are well loved.

[Joe Button]

Would you be reaching for the love? I don't like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You go at it and I think you was a male jiggler, yo.

[Queens Flip]

Which one is it? I reached for the love or I'm not. Which one is it? Y' all say, when I walk in the spot, I'm just walking in the spot, minding my business, and the love comes to me. Which one is it? I reach for the love or I don't.

[Joe Button]

You reach for love. You reach for love. You're a relationship.

[Queens Flip]

So you walk in the spot to

[Joe Button]

make sure that you're a relationship chaser that, like, you chase relationships with strangers. That's why we couldn't cover the Cheyenne Bryant couple weeks ago, because you chased that relationship. You chase relationships.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You get cloudy, especially with famous escalated quickly.

[Joe Button]

People that have money, muscles of movement, you chase the relationship.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Money muscles.

[Joe Button]

Money muscles of movement. You chase the relationship. All right, so I'm muting up now. Floor is yours.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know the move now.

[Queens Flip]

What? We couldn't discuss release for Cheyenne Bryant.

[Joe Button]

We couldn't talk the other day about the Cheyenne Bryant when the other doctor had her in scope.

[Queens Flip]

Why? Because I have a relationship with somebody that I don't want to ridicule them because they got a book coming out, and I don't want to step on them opportunities. Again, no money.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Queens Flip]

That's not me trying to get a relationship with Shine Bryant.

[Joe Button]

You just met that lady.

[Queens Flip]

I would love to.

[Joe Button]

You just met the lady an hour

[Queens Flip]

ago, and y' all bigged up the relationship that we, quote, unquote, fake had. Not me. Y' all niggas made me and Cheyenne Bryant's relationship something bigger than it was when y' all hit her in the back.

[Joe Button]

Was, all right, I didn't do that. Y' all did that.

[Queens Flip]

So you can't say I'm trying to chase no Cheyenne Bryant. I don't give a fuck about no relationship with Cheyenne Bryant. That's another black woman out here trying to get some paper. I don't want to step on it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Relationship.

[Joe Button]

So can we talk about it today?

[Queens Flip]

Of course we could.

[Joe Button]

All right, then. Mute up.

[Queens Flip]

Keep going, though.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Keep going, though.

[Joe Button]

S. What about her? Chase that relationship. Never. How? These are people you just meet in 10 minutes, and then you jump on their clit. And I. I'm being jovial with you. I know I'm being jovial with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm telling you.

[Joe Button]

My face is serious. No, but my face. No way. My face is serious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got him.

[Joe Button]

But that's part of. I'm good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch this.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Mute up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark Lemoy.

[Joe Button]

Mark Lamo called that Mark Lamoise. Mark, Twan, Moreberry, whatever the last. Get your ass the out of here. Yeah, I'm being jovial. I'm talking to now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You about to shoot at Snoop. Yeah, shooting me. What? Shoot at me. What he said. Don't distract it. Can you talk about Cheyenne Bryant? You chase relationships, period. A lot of us don't. We don't give a about them. We secure our relationships that we in, but we don't meet new and build relationships. Ian Dunlap is the exception with me. We don't meet new to build relationships like you do.

[Joe Button]

We love Ian. Shout Ian, period is a real.

[Queens Flip]

Stop taking other people's words and using them for yours. Name a relationship I built with who?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cheyenne Bryant.

[Queens Flip]

I don't have a relationship with you. I don't have a relationship.

[Joe Button]

You still do.

[Queens Flip]

I don't have a relationship with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To make it seem like I don't think you're doing anything inappropriate. Let me make it clear same. I don't have to do it in your windows. I'm telling you that when it come to niggas and you feel like you could utilize them, you be cool with them.

[Joe Button]

Tyrese.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tyrese. Oh, shit. I got this.

[Queens Flip]

Who do that more than me?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You. You do that. No, you could. He was happy to see the guard. I walked in, he asked for me. Cause my impri was like, don't flip. I don't see what you.

[Joe Button]

Talk to him, Flip. Talk to him, Flip.

[Queens Flip]

Stop playing with him, y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Joe Button]

We got a great show lined up for y'. All. We gonna get to it at some point. We'll get to it. We shooting the. We happy to see each other. Y' all sit there. We have a good time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As long as he alive, you're a millionaire. I was a millionaire, but not before he left. But it's okay, bro. But he made you a millionaire. When I met Joe, he made you a million.

[Joe Button]

You gotta stop bumping up

[Mark Lamont Hill]

before I got here, you ass.

[Queens Flip]

What I gotta do with that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I made a million before. I gotta be in the wheel somewhere. Why are you extra happy today? Why you actually happy during this? TJ made me happy. No, you know what made you happy?

[Joe Button]

And you gotta. You gotta hold up for a minute because he said that last. You gotta stop pumping up them. Them $30,000 two families you got. Wait, hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

If they worth.

[Joe Button]

You gotta stop. You gotta stop pumping that up.

[Queens Flip]

Why would I do that if they worth 800,000?

[Joe Button]

You gotta stop pumping that up, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why would I do that?

[Joe Button]

You got a bunch of 800,000 a day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why would I be mad?

[Joe Button]

We gotta get them appraised. Not the little scammer appraiser that you be using. We gotta use the real appraiser.

[Queens Flip]

Appraiser.

[Joe Button]

We gotta use the real appraiser.

[Queens Flip]

How you know?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't know nothing.

[Queens Flip]

Appraisers come from the bank. I don't hire them.

[Joe Button]

Oh, Not from that little scam.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on. Not for the Chinese bank you took me to little Chinese man over there in Korea town.

[Queens Flip]

That's yen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you talking about?

[Queens Flip]

Nigga, you crazy.

[Joe Button]

Ish is in the lead, even if he doesn't know it. For my mans, he know.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Not even close.

[Queens Flip]

It's not close.

[Joe Button]

We don't even need to have this talk with him. I was aiming at Mark because If ish is 1A, then I got mark at 1B for mans.

[Queens Flip]

You got them close.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, I see.

[Queens Flip]

I don't have them close.

[Joe Button]

I think Mark just gets it off more covertly. He does like, he's smoother with it. It's just a casual conversation. Yo, my man, my man, my man, my man Mark.

[Queens Flip]

Mark will drop a heavier name. Yeah, that's what it is. Ish guy's more mans.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's definitely got a wider network of friends. It should be outside more. He's been outside longer, but okay, then

[Joe Button]

I have the same premise. Both these niggas accept people that don't really with them at all. They just a bunch of money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't say that. With this.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, no, no. Of course with them. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

We love these guys are well loved, well liked and well respected. That's a caveat that's to the side. That is not in this talk. We talking about my man's my man's, my man's and my man's that when

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I say somebody's my man.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, I get what you say about him. Like the name that he said. Yeah, he dropped like you don't really know it.

[Joe Button]

He said, denz, this man, it don't matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but what he said, Denzel was his best friend. I never said that. A better picture.

[Queens Flip]

He said that was his first time he was in.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of

[Joe Button]

matter is Felicia. Felicia, Rashad, anybody. Any of them names he bring about anytime somebody die. Asada Shakur. I just spoke to her family. I was on the phone with her two weeks ago.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He think cuz he's in the socialist

[Joe Button]

group black group Chat that he get to come in. Just know everybody. He don't know These he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe not, but when I say they my man, I do.

[Joe Button]

I don't believe it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And to me, my man is different than like, that's my dear, close friend or that's my best friend. If I say, that's my man, it means we got enough of a relationship that I'm gonna consider them when I make a choice. All right, let me. So when we was talking off camera, it was talking about interviewing somebody that might or whatever. And I was like, well, I wouldn't do that to that person other' cause that's my man. The person we talked about, I've known since fucking 8th grade.

[Queens Flip]

Let me ask you a question. When you say that, look, when last

[Joe Button]

time you spoke to him.

[Queens Flip]

That.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was two months ago on a telephone, in person.

[Joe Button]

No, no. Oh, no, no, no. That's different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not true.

[Joe Button]

That means absolutely nothing.

[Queens Flip]

If I'm in a spot and I just run into somebody that I. Oh, we can have a conversation. That's not. How many will answer the phone if you call.

[Joe Button]

That's different. Oh, yeah, no, that's my man.

[Queens Flip]

That's my man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course he would answer the phone.

[Queens Flip]

Okay, so then it depends on the in person meeting. The in person meeting might not have been random. It could have been, yo, my nigga, what you doing? Let's go out and get something to eat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was somewhere in the middle of that. It was, yo, I'm having a thing come through. It wasn't a one on one meeting, but he personally called me and you invited me to.

[Queens Flip]

Your kid called you. He called you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

So he did call you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but we'd have a phone conversation. He texted me and said, listen what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

What time did you buy the bottle?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Somebody text me and says, yo, I'm having a thing. I want you to come through. And then I go, the phone conversation

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

is not a barometer because who fucking calls people to British.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, that's not the point. No, no, no, no, no. But that's not the point. Nobody calls anybody, right? However, if I pick up the phone and search a name and hit will they answer?

[Queens Flip]

That is a measuring.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's a broader.

[Queens Flip]

If somebody invites you to, they kick back at the crib.

[Joe Button]

That means nothing.

[Queens Flip]

To watch the Super Bowl.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That means something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That means something.

[Joe Button]

What are we talking about? It means little.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It means very little.

[Queens Flip]

It wasn't at the crib.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he was giving an example. But yeah, I'm asking you. No, because the person lives in la he live in town. I'm explaining to you. They live in la. They came to New York and invite him into the thing they're doing in New York?

[Joe Button]

Nah.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

How big of a thing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

30 people were there.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, that is cool.

[Queens Flip]

That's something, bro. What are we talking about?

[Joe Button]

Did you go?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Get the fuck out of here.

[Joe Button]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't want to hear none of that shit. I don't want to hear none of that shit. Well, why wasn't you in town?

[Joe Button]

This was your man. Get the fuck out of here. My man. This is my man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I gotta be in town. You know, I'm stupid, yo. So if he was my real friend, I wouldn't have had another event. I wouldn't have nowhere else to be.

[Joe Button]

Maybe. I got two friends, yo, when my birthday comes, I'm going to call people that ain't in town and they gonna come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And anybody who doesn't come isn't your friend anymore.

[Joe Button]

No, not necessarily.

[Queens Flip]

No. That's the point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the point.

[Joe Button]

Most of them will.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

Y' all want to walk to the camera? Because now I'm gonna seem like the guy that's hating on y' all phony relationships, and I want to do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They're not phony relationships.

[Joe Button]

They are phony relationships.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Call him right now. I don't overstate. Call him right now. I don't over phony, bro. Call him right now.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think Mark is second in, man. So I think he. That's fine.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he is second in, man. One is saying 1B.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't overstate the relationship when I say somebody's 1A.

[Joe Button]

1B.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I don't. I don't pretend that we best friends and we tight. I'm saying that's somebody who.

[Joe Button]

Yo, why you still trying to help him?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He'll turn you put me in it.

[Joe Button]

We got him. No, you turn on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You'll turn on. You cool with. I never. He can't get me.

[Queens Flip]

Don't worry. He do that to y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He can't get me. This boy can't get me.

[Queens Flip]

I'm good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You thought you did the. My man beat. That don't mean nothing. Don't defend me. I didn't need none of y' all to defend me. I'm do, though. What the. I'm here with all you.

[Joe Button]

What just happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There we go.

[Queens Flip]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Mic check, 1, 2. One mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Start spreading. New York, New York. It's such a beautiful day in New York City.

[Queens Flip]

Mike check we not in New York City.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm so happy to be in.

[Joe Button]

But we looking. We looking at him. Oh, and it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So glad to be here.

[Queens Flip]

I wanted to get serious.

[Joe Button]

Big Jersey. Big Jersey. Shout to the five barrels.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

In a city that doesn't sleep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

King of the hill,

[Queens Flip]

top of the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think you might go suck. You might do like. You'll be busting rhymes, too. He's gonna slip about three or four in there.

[Joe Button]

What the you doing?

[Queens Flip]

Y. You laughing too hard, my guy.

[Joe Button]

I ain't going to hold you.

[Queens Flip]

And they got a master M3.

[Joe Button]

He's four for four.

[Queens Flip]

How many of these you got?

[Joe Button]

God damn, too many.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shot a lot of them.

[Joe Button]

Yes, sir. Go Nicks, Queens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What up, Lloyd Banks. What up? Shout out to my Knick fans out there. Fuck they talk about, nigga, You. Wow.

[Joe Button]

Just plays, man.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, you nigga. I ain't had this one on the list.

[Joe Button]

I'm just being disrespectful now.

[Queens Flip]

This is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Welcome to the Empire State.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I mean, you know what the type of time we on today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just what up?

[Joe Button]

Just blaze is going on, man. Jersey City, what up? Always Brooklyn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What up, Madison. What up?

[Joe Button]

The Bronx.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Bronx be. What up, killer camp. Harlem was popping.

[Joe Button]

That was popping, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Brooklyn.

[Joe Button]

What's Staten Island?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Harlem. Upstate, Chandland, Westchester, Yonkers. Let's go kick Crawler. Marcy. Proud.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

Knicks fans took over Xfinity Mobile arena today.

[Queens Flip]

Cheering later in Tupac news.

[Joe Button]

Fans that were inside today, they said

[Cheyenne Bryant]

they're still proud of just how far this team has come.

[Joe Button]

It was a painful end to the

[Cheyenne Bryant]

season as the Knicks left the sixth.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you had to know this was coming, man. You had to know this was coming.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't know it was going to

[Joe Button]

be this bad, though. We feeling good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yo, get yourself something to drink.

[Joe Button]

Roll something up, whatever vices. We going to be here for a second.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With your boy. Yeah, Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Button]

Y' all can't with. Let's go, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He understood me quite clear then, I think. Bang out and rang out the side of his.

[Queens Flip]

Back to my bitches.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Back to the kitchen at Pyrex.

[Joe Button]

Yo, we got a great show lined up for y', all, man. Stay right there. Don't touch that down. Don't touch that down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout to the patronies out there. Shout out to the subgroups out there. Real all over the world. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies.

[Joe Button]

There you go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No stop now. He good. He can stop right now. I be okay with that.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man. I don't want to hear Mark le right now. I don't want to hear no Philadelphia, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y.

[Joe Button]

What up? I hope the Brunson family is having an amazing day today. Shout out to World Wide west and all that. Leon Rose and all that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Alec, you Houston and all that. The whole Nick's breath.

[Joe Button]

Mark, how you feeling, man? Let me turn this down for a little bit. Get into my God. You feeling good, Ice? How you feeling? Ass? How you feeling, huh? I told y' all it was a chance. We come back to work and I can't go to game five. I told y' all that game five was a illusion. Here come Mark with his PhD. Oh, you think there's a chance we really want women?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shut the up. I weigh that.

[Joe Button]

I'm from New York. New York. Tell the way down. All right, man, we got a good show lined up for y', all, man. Enough of the fun. Enough of the fun. Y' all know what time it is, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to the teams that are

[Joe Button]

still playing second round basketball.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to the Celtics fans.

[Joe Button]

Y' all got dog walkers, too. The y' all talking about, man, I

[Mark Lamont Hill]

see the coping and nose. Yes, Man, Yes. No, we don't. No, we don't. It. I'm with the police. Whatever he playing it for. What he playing it for?

[Queens Flip]

I'm playing it for Queens.

[Joe Button]

Good ass. New joe b last night. Who is that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

From the Weber nitty era? It's the network. Wow.

[Queens Flip]

Wow.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You guys all right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Even better.

[Joe Button]

No. No, I'm not pretty far from our.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Give myself some tissue. Son, you should not be that tired. Give myself some tissue, gang. I knew coming in here like that.

[Joe Button]

Baby, why, Baby, why you not wiping my forehead while I'm sitting here sweating, talking to you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip, she not this fan. Why I'm getting my paper towel from. From P.O.

[Joe Button]

and you sitting right there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They making a gay joke.

[Joe Button]

All right, what's today's date?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Free Jeremy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't playing.

[Joe Button]

What's today?

[Queens Flip]

Oh, it's the 12th.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's why. All right, this is the 12th. That's why. All right, this is a little bit closer. Yeah, she wouldn't do that shit on the 24th. Nigga, what you doing? What happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I should have got the towel and wiped the bed. Yeah, I know. What's wrong with you?

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at the two losers. Losing team. Yo, both y' all lost.

[Queens Flip]

Master's brow is wet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I know. That Master, though. Why y' all laugh at his slave jokes? This Is trash. He's misappropriating. He's not black. I'm not black. He's not blond. Is the blackest that you know. You not black. Lots of stuff going on today, guys.

[Queens Flip]

Let's get to it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How's everybody's Mother's Day?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

it wasn't on the board. I figured we might as well. I forgot.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think we should do an intro to the show, baby. I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

That's true. What episode is this?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

920.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that was great. You said 928. Welcome to episode 928 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you. Brought to you by Power, by a few, by Price. Fix Price, gang. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. Yeah, Queens get the money. Queens Flip is in the building. In the building next to him, Mark is here. Our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building next to him. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up Big Issues in the building next to him, the freeziest of them all, Big Freeze Crushed Ice is here today. Next to him, we got Elmira's finest. Big Park's in the building. White Poe is in the building. Cory and Love Ass is here. My baby is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here.

[Queens Flip]

Here.

[Joe Button]

And shout out to any Sixers that might be listening, since you guys got nothing but time on your hands. Oh, God damn, bro. Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He's not done.

[Queens Flip]

No, he's done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's a sword.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

This is just getting so. We're gonna get an hour two. We can start the podcast. We have a great show at hour two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is why y' all don't deserve nothing.

[Queens Flip]

Like, I don't even know how to act.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's the second round win. Y' all won. Be gracious. Like Philadelphia. Yeah, we. We in the building, yo. Thank you.

[Queens Flip]

Classy New York.

[Joe Button]

How you feel?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is you down with New York now?

[Queens Flip]

No issues.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Lakers got wiped out last night, too. He's sneaking under the mat. I mean, but I mean, what's different? What's the follow up, team? What's different?

[Queens Flip]

It's different. If Tyrese Maxey wasn't there, nobody would have thought y' all was gonna win. If y' all had a healthy. I mean, if y' all had a injured VJ Edgecomb, nobody thought y' all was gonna win.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We had A half injured Embiid, who

[Queens Flip]

you said y' all played better without.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but the problem is he's in the game. I'd rather him just not play cheated

[Joe Button]

in a ground invasion to the levels like we saw yesterday. We were there last year. We were there for game six, and it was invasion and it was uncomfortable for Philly fans. I looked into their eyes. They didn't know I was sympathetic, but I looked into their eyes and said, man, I feel bad for you suckers. What happened yesterday in the city of Philadelphia is going to be study. Because I don't know if we've ever seen anything like this. I know that the Philly fans not going to want to admit this. They're going to say, well, it's the Sixers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We didn't believe in the Sixers.

[Joe Button]

It's not the Eagles come back during football season, girl. This is a black eye for the city of Philadelphia.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me say something, man. I sadly agree. I agree it is embarrassing. I, I, I have floor seats to the game. Somebody offered to buy mine. A New Yorker with a much big upcharge. I said no.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Wow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Could add a pride for my city.

[Queens Flip]

Respect. Respect.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You should have took that money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, fuck that price.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, you could have paid that back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I could have paid back some of these bets a lot. But nah, but like, you can't do that, man. It's embarrassing to walk into an arena and hear that many New York. I'm at home watching the game and I heard the cheer and I was like, oh, shit, we scored. And it was the fucking Knicks who scored. That's how many people were in the audience. Yeah, it's true. Yo, it's embarrassing.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, everybody pointers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And we too big of a sports center, sports city for that to look like that. It wouldn't happen with the Eagles. It wouldn't happen with the Phillies. But this is crazy. Y' all just gotta get banned from the, from the stadium.

[Queens Flip]

Only reason it wouldn't happen in Philly with the Eagles. Cause y' all be throwing batteries and y' all can't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Y' all can't do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what shit happened.

[Joe Button]

Yo, do me a favor. I don't want to hear nothing about Philly for a second.

[Queens Flip]

Cheese sticks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just play the Philly clip.

[Joe Button]

I didn't play Freeway. I didn't play Petey Crack the Roots Eve. I didn't play none of that shit. And I love all that music. I ain't play that today. I don't wanna hear nothing about Philadelphia Eagles. Any other Bird. Yeah, Jill Scott. I don't wanna hear none of that shit today. I ain't gonna lie to you. Y' all can't. I can't. Not today. I can't stomach it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I can't wait for you. This is why I hope y' all to lose. I hope y' all lose.

[Joe Button]

Cause the one game I try to root for y' all bum asses so I could go to game five, my baby to done went to Gucci. Bought a little outfit that we got. We're gonna return it. Don't get praised. Oh, we're gonna return it. But we bought a little outfit to go to the game. And I'm in the store saying, yo, the way they looked, yo, I just don't. I don't think it's gonna be a game. Then the game air first six minutes over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Over.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it ain't no game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

From the corner.

[Joe Button]

Broke a playoff record for threes made in a quarter. Tied a playoff record for most threes made in a half. Tied the playoff record for most threes made in a game. Shot 58% from three. Something absolutely unheard of. 51% from the field, I think in the first quarter. Quarter or the first half, I don't remember. They only took 10 twos.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, first half, it was embarrassing.

[Queens Flip]

Might have been a half.

[Joe Button]

First half. It was bad out there. Do you still stand by Tyrese Maxey being a better player than a captain, Jalen Brunson? Yeah.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you don't want to hear from Philadelphians today. So I'm going to. I'm going to honor your request.

[Joe Button]

Yo, VJ Edgecomb, let's go. You 20 years old. Was 19 when the season started. I got nothing bad to say about. About you. Your future is extremely bright. Unfortunately for you, playoff lights are brighter.

[Queens Flip]

Lights was different.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, playoff lights are brighter. Tyrese Maxey, regular season stats real good. You got a bright future ahead of you. I think the team should build around you. Playoff lights are bright. It's different when one team is playing you back to back to back to back, and it's game plan. And for just you, it does get tough. Captain Brunson could have told him that. It's an IQ thing. Joel Embassy Reed, three years left. Just signed an extension. 60 million per. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. As for the Knicks, I'm not celebrating beating the Philadelphia 76ers. Like I said before that series started, we're supposed to do that there's no celebration to be had. They weren't our peers. We're celebrating the fashion in which it was done. Only three other teams in the history of the league have clinched playoff series by 30 points or more. All three of those teams went on to win the championship. I'm not saying that that is our fate, but the fashion in which they put belt to ass, foot in ass is something to be admired, is something to be revered, something to feel good about. If you are a Knicks fan, if you are a Knick fan, young or old, this is probably some of the best Knick basketball you have ever watched in your entire life. Yeah, yeah, that. Point cat. Point cat and off ball. Brunson going to be a lot to deal with. We did that without OG word. The bench produced. It was just bad out there, man. So I'm super sad that I won't be going to game four five, but boy, does it feel good. I don't know about that either, but boy, does it feel good for your team to win in the fashion in which we've won the last division rival.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Especially in. In all seriousness, the Knicks looked really, really impressive in this series. I mean, we got thoroughly outplayed. It was about to ass every game that last game. I didn't love that the Sixers kind of gave up so soon. Not just because of my, my practice prize picks, but because, hold on, that fourth quarter killed me. But y' all just look like a different team than last year. You know, the offense is much better at Brunson playing off the ball. Y' all are playing defensively. Defensively much better than I expected. The Sixers didn't play y' all particularly well. I think there are things that could have been done to not make that a 50 point loss, particularly our drop coverage on. Anyway, defensively we didn't play very well. We didn't go over screens enough. There's a lot of shit we didn't do. But y' all were just a much better team.

[Queens Flip]

Had no answer for that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No answer for anything. And you're not going to shoot 90% for the first 10 threes most of the time. But even if you shot 30%, 40%, we still would have gotten blown out. Y' all just were a better team.

[Joe Button]

The culture needs a reset, man. Since the year Joel Embiid was drafted, the Sixers have had 15 first round picks and only three of them are still on the team. They've had six second round exits, two first round exits, no Eastern Conference Final appearances. They had three brutal heartbreaking game seven

[Mark Lamont Hill]

losses in the second round.

[Joe Button]

James Harden quit. Ben Simmons quit. Marco Folts couldn't even shoot in his rookie season after whoever knows what happened? Tobias Harris quit. Jimmy Butler walked away after the team didn't prioritize him. Mikhail Brindis got traded on draft. Oh, yeah. Paul George had a 25 game suspension and screwed up the deadline. Then he got hurt every which way. Joel Obitas had the unluckiest injuries I've

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

ever seen in my life.

[Joe Button]

Brian Colangelo made a burner account to talk about Joel and B behind his back getting brought in after was kicked out. I mean, you just can't make up the level of ineptitude of this organization every time the up. I don't wait for no Philly people today. I want to hear from no Philly people out of here. Respect us as the people that are responsible for putting the most recent banners up in your building. That's our building. Building, man, like I said, that's Madison Square Garden.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What band did you put up? Second round?

[Joe Button]

No, the two Villanova championship banners that you're lucky enough to look up and glance at. Those are Nick players that put those banners up. Are you cool? Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You talking about ncaa.

[Joe Button]

I'm talking about banners. That's our building. We could take them down. You know that's our building.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We could take our building.

[Joe Button]

Take them down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't y' all building.

[Joe Button]

And you got the nerve to wear a shirt with Michael Jordan on it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Just reminded us never made it to the Eastern Conferen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. This shirt is a reminder to Knicks fans. Don't get too cocky. Cause whenever y' all get like this, somebody shuts y' all down. Yeah, but Jordan shut y' all down in the 90s, and y' all gonna lose the OKC.

[Joe Button]

We getting cocky about the work that has been done, not the work left to do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Before this camera started, you said to me, bring on okc. Oh, yeah, y' all gotta team in between okc. So I'm saying don't get confident. Don't get confident. Don't get cocky. Play the next round.

[Joe Button]

Hey, hey, I'm looking for the Lightning and the Thunder. Nigga, stop playing with me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what he think.

[Joe Button]

He was he looking for the cash.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They confident.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it's true. We have a new.

[Queens Flip]

You're looking for the cast.

[Joe Button]

We have a series.

[Queens Flip]

That's who you want.

[Joe Button]

We have a series. Hey, Cleveland fans and Biston fans, I ain't going to hold you. I text Jared Jack, soon as we won, I was like, yep, going to head and get some rest. We're going to go rest now. Good luck. He. I can't even say what he said. I was like, focus. You're still playing. Playing boy. Donovan Mitchell dancing out there. But listen, this is a music podcast. This is a music podcast, so we'll get. We'll get the music. Congrats to all Knick fans out there, man. Well deserved. Shout out to the Knicks. Shout out to Jalen Brunson, Rick Brunson. Shout out to the whole Knicks staff, Mike Brown, everybody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man, I owe you money. So Salehi sent me his Venmo in the second quarter, Game four.

[Joe Button]

I hate niggas like that, too. Where you make a bet and then they send the cash app request for the money that they want. I hate niggas like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on in the second quarter.

[Joe Button]

Nah, don't do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I can give you your money on cash app right now.

[Queens Flip]

You know, if they don't send it to you, they might not get it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, then that's not a gentleman's bet. I'm talking about amongst niggas that don't deal with integrity.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I ain't never gonna sniff nobody on no bet. I can see the cash app now or you can have it in cash when I get to the bank. You want the cash app right now?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He's gonna bring you pennies or something if you don't take the cash app.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Last year I gave him $5,000 in ones.

[Joe Button]

He gave me 5 cash liquid last year.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Ones he'll use.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I say. You want the cash? I'll give it to you. I could just cash app you. I won't.

[Joe Button]

I slowed down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's true.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You don't even go to.

[Joe Button]

You don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't go to those spots that you need cash for. I'm not even looking. I'm not even looking the direction. I'm not even playing.

[Joe Button]

You know what? No, she's not laughing at all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wasn't even funny. I just like.

[Joe Button]

You know the worst part? Yo, I love y'.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

All.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

In talking to you when we was talking before, I'm like, yo, it ain't going to look like a Knicks home game game again. Philly not going to let it happen. How could they stop it?

[Joe Button]

That's the film.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We put a ban on selling tickets. They literally wouldn't sell tickets to New Yorkers.

[Queens Flip]

Mark, if you think everybody in Philly didn't need some money. You out your mind?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought we shrinked it. I knew that was my to minimize it.

[Queens Flip]

You rich, Dad? I thought this would look a little different. It looked worse.

[Joe Button]

However rich he is, let it be a thousand less. A thousand less?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just said you your money.

[Joe Button]

Did I get it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Says you.

[Joe Button]

I didn't get a notification.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You'll see.

[Joe Button]

I also don't have.

[Queens Flip]

Somebody would have offered them them front row seats at the right price.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, that's true if they offer me at the right price, but.

[Joe Button]

All right, come on. What we want to talk about? What do we want to talk about? What is on you guys? Hearts, minds, spirits and souls. I mean, I'm in a good mood. Hopefully y' all are too. I'm in a good mood for sure. What needs our attention?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

How's everyone's Mother's Day? We got. We can start with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, it was good. It was amazing.

[Joe Button]

Talk about it. Sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, I spent time with my mom and.

[Joe Button]

Mom's at school.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, my mom. Well, it's been a long time since my brother and I were with my mom together. Yeah, I got a brother. Yeah, Theo. Wait, what's your brother's name? Theodore. Had a brother. We two years and two days apart. So we went spend time with my mom and shit. That was nice.

[Joe Button]

Theodore and Trevor. I see the vision your mom had for y'.

[Queens Flip]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My falling. It was that you never talk about it.

[Joe Button]

I see the vision.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't know he had a brother.

[Queens Flip]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He talked all this about my brother Daryl. You got a whole Theo theater and Trevor. Theodore. Not Theo.

[Joe Button]

Theo. I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Theo.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Theo and Trevor.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Shout out to Theo. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, is he in America?

[Joe Button]

He is here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's here. He lives in Brooklyn. Watch your mouth. Talking about my brother. My brother was a correction officer. Watch your mouth. In America, you be turning up. Shout out to Theo. And then I'm about to go spend time with my wife and my children, you know, and that was good. You got more questions? Well, no. What? You know how that should be on the island? That's his business. You know what I'm saying? You don't know about the job, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Well, actually, you do. We know. But yeah, it was great. Great Mother's Day to see my family happy, to see my mom smile, to see my wife smile, to have everybody together.

[Queens Flip]

My mother.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was great.

[Joe Button]

What'd you get her?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't say.

[Joe Button]

All right, What'd you Get your wife?

[Queens Flip]

I can't say.

[Joe Button]

Do you do gifts?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

All right, got it then. That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's pizza.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Mark, how about you? What's up?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was low key. Real, real, real low key. I didn't make it down to Philly for my mom.

[Joe Button]

When called, the nurses checked her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I trust. I trust the system. I trust the process. Yo, don't do that. You gonna let the N do that process. Yo, stop.

[Joe Button]

Yo, sit that back, yo. Yo, he's so stupid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, I. I checked on her. She's doing well. It was my brother's turn.

[Queens Flip]

Yo,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll slap you for your mother. Nigga, watch me him out, bro. I'll slap you for your mother.

[Queens Flip]

I'll follow up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So he had the pleasure of spending that day with my mother. After he went to the game and then took my got with my mom and I spent some time with my mother in law and my wife. And then she and I went out to dinner, took her out later that night and I got her some jewelry for mother's Day.

[Queens Flip]

You got a reservation somewhere?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we went up to the spot next to Blue and Hudson. What's that called?

[Joe Button]

Drift.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drift.

[Joe Button]

Drift.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They. Oh, we got plenty. We got plenty of room.

[Joe Button]

I'm trying to not do it right now, but this is the spot to do it. Cause I went, I went. We went. We went to Blue for brunch. And for brunch, Drift was packed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Like. And a lot of them were sitting outside so you could see the people that were sitting down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dusty. Dusty. It definitely was like Ralph Chaps.

[Joe Button]

Oh, being right next to Blue is cause was stepping in. In Blue. Shout out to Sierra. Shout out to that whole hospitality team over there. In. In Blue they get to stepping on. It's a holiday. Is they out and Drift.

[Queens Flip]

It was chap.

[Joe Button]

Very clear separation and in clientele.

[Queens Flip]

Look at Mark face.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but they charge you like it's not.

[Joe Button]

See, I never been because my status.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We had been to Blue so many times that we wanted to do something different.

[Joe Button]

Try something different. Chart House across the street.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't want to do like. That's a nigga Ruth.

[Joe Button]

Chris is next door to Drift.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just assumed that it would be like all the.

[Queens Flip]

Because it's right there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's right next door.

[Queens Flip]

I get it. If you're not from here, Farborg is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I just picked one that I hadn't been to.

[Joe Button]

He was on some. No, we don't have a reservation. Let me just. You reserved it.

[Queens Flip]

Drift?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, shit.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You didn't look at the reviews.

[Queens Flip]

We gotta call your people, call your

[Joe Button]

man, call your man. That's where all the lotionless people was at.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm in the fuck up with Drift. I walked in there cause I tried to call the changing reservation. They was like, oh no, it's Mother's Day. We can't make any adjustments to the reservation.

[Joe Button]

You know what's also a good indicator? You know what's also a good, good indicator for us? If you don't see one black. Cuz it wasn't no blacks at Drift.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Really

[Joe Button]

drive by Drift one time on a holiday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who was in there? It was only two tables in there.

[Joe Button]

Nah, they ain't said me. I can't tell you who was in there. I can't tell you who was in there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know what it look like.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. I don't see color.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, yellow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't see yet which one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a different groups. Ones that do the ones that do the nails. It's the.

[Queens Flip]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ones that do the long was po. Yo. That's why.

[Queens Flip]

Okay, that makes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It wasn't like that when I got there. It was just, it was just kind of empty. Had gyro. The food is not that different than next door.

[Joe Button]

You said he had a gyro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm talking about the style. The taste was different. Yeah, it didn't. It was. It. I don't want to on the restaurant.

[Joe Button]

Sh. The Drift don't go again.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't got to worry about that.

[Joe Button]

Sh.

[Queens Flip]

The Drift though, it tastes like trash.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was, it, it was fine. It just wasn't like good. I never been.

[Joe Button]

It was okay though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was fine. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. It wasn't terrible.

[Queens Flip]

But you won't go again though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would not go again.

[Queens Flip]

I never been.

[Joe Button]

That's enough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would not go again. My wife liked what she had. I, I, I, you know what you.

[Joe Button]

I believe you never been. Cause you're not getting my d. I

[Mark Lamont Hill]

had the lobster bouillah base and, and then like a sushi thing.

[Queens Flip]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What she had, she had some, some kind of steak. And then at the table they see I don't eat steak. So I don't know what they. I don't know all the different kinds like that. But she, she liked it.

[Joe Button]

She just loses man points every. You don't eat steak.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't eat beef. I haven't eaten beef since 96.

[Joe Button]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Queens Flip]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. 95.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

You don't look at men like less

[Queens Flip]

than men when they don't eat steak.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was about to say, yeah, damn.

[Queens Flip]

I don't eat steak.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. I don't know if they did.

[Joe Button]

They said, I'll take the branzino.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he fruit by the Skittles.

[Joe Button]

All right, all right. I'll take a fruit bottle. I'll take a salmon. Fruit bottle was classic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was.

[Queens Flip]

Sorry about that. All right, all right. Our badging out.

[Joe Button]

Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you did.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, no, we skip. We skipped.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish.

[Queens Flip]

I a do nothing. Mother's Day dinner. My girl. My mom's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's nice.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but what about your.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You call your mama love?

[Joe Button]

What about your mom?

[Queens Flip]

I was supposed to go down south. I ain't get a chance to go, but that's peace.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you did the same thing I did.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, what the Is yo he going

[Joe Button]

to swing on me? I ain't saying nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That two. What? Yo, go see your mother.

[Joe Button]

Go see your mom. Yo, what are you talking about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go see your mother?

[Joe Button]

Go see your mom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You live in different states. You spend time with your. Do you spend time with your mother?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't see my mom either. I'm going see her. This.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't see my mother.

[Joe Button]

But we on Israel. Y' all keep trying to save them. We don't care.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Trying to save him.

[Joe Button]

We don't see your mom. Yo, but he saw.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When's the last you saw your mom? A couple of months ago.

[Joe Button]

Like seven years ago.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Queens Flip]

You crazy.

[Joe Button]

You can't like mama right around the pandemic. He went down there. Yo, you good, mama.

[Queens Flip]

Nope, nope. No, I like that. N. Absolutely not.

[Joe Button]

I'm glad you had it. Well, can you share the gift that you got?

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

All right, no pressure for me. Freeze. How was your Mother's Day?

[Queens Flip]

Mother's Day was good. I took mom shopping during the week. Cause I knew I wasn't gonna see her actually on Sunday.

[Joe Button]

Killing market. Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, nah, they didn't.

[Queens Flip]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

Definitely killing me. I know what you mean.

[Queens Flip]

They did what they had to do. And then for Mother's Day, me and my lady, we went out. Cause we went out Saturday, we had a birthday party to go to. So we slept at in late, went out, caught a brunch, and then was back on parent duty.

[Joe Button]

So. That's dope. That's dope. Sound like a real good Mother's Day.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yes.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it was good.

[Joe Button]

Parks, you didn't see your mom's, huh?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't. I had to cook out for the in laws. I'm going to see my mom's Wednesday, so I'll make up for it. What?

[Joe Button]

We talking about your mom.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I know. I said that's how I'm going see her Wednesday.

[Joe Button]

No, it must have been when you're married.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Your in laws are like.

[Joe Button]

It gets tricky when you're married, Joe. Hey, what say she just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You ain't just shooting at me. Shout out your man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like your in laws be like. It's like having two moms. So like a lot of times, like, I don't feel like I. Sometimes you got to like alternate. Like you're.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You got to split holidays.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got to split the holidays.

[Joe Button]

I understand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's a blessing when you get them all together at once. Yeah, that be. That'd be a pain in the ass. And then they get older. It's real hard.

[Joe Button]

Why are you so quiet? Come on, we having a classic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm thinking, I'm thinking. No, no, no, no. I just got a text from jr. My fault.

[Joe Button]

Everything okay?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In a little bit.

[Joe Button]

Just now. Oh, shout out. Oh, let me say happy birthday to my baby. It was Trey's birthday. Happy birthday, Trey. I love you. I cannot believe I have a 25 year old. That is great. That is absolutely crazy.

[Queens Flip]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Sure enough, right on his birthday. God got a grace sense of humor, cuz. I told him when he was 14. Yo, dog, at 25, cutting you off.

[Queens Flip]

You've been saying this forever too.

[Joe Button]

But he was 14. He might have went and told his mom on me, so I got yelled at. Then at 16, I said it again. Yeah, yeah, I know. It seemed far away. He told me, shut up, old nigga. I don't give a 20. Told him again at 18, had to talk again at 21. Now you're 25. Guys, guess who called me? You guessed it. Redacted financial from wherever he got his car from. I ain't gonna say the place. He called me right up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey,

[Joe Button]

just wanted to let you know, is now a good time? Just wanted to let you know. Your car. Cause it's his car, right? Right. Six months left on the lease. Just wanna let you know about 33,000 miles over the allotted mileage.

[Queens Flip]

God damn. Did he do that with the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, he done it with all of them. 33,000.

[Joe Button]

33,000 miles over the allotted mileage. Said so we can take you out of that car early and Put you in something new if you lock in with us for the same number. I said, listen, big dog, I'm gonna come check you out on Thursday or something. Cause I could tell he was happy to be talking to Joe, but I

[Queens Flip]

hung up with him.

[Joe Button]

Call my son, the big dog. Big dog.

[Queens Flip]

Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

[Joe Button]

Today is that day. Special day. I've been preparing you for. This shouldn't come into shock, but you still strong.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't that.

[Queens Flip]

You ain't staying strong.

[Joe Button]

Hey, I told him. I told him, let him sweat a little bit. I told him the call I just got. You know what he say? He talk about, all right, how much I got to come up with? Yeah, what we do?

[Queens Flip]

What we doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the amount?

[Queens Flip]

He can't come up with that. No, what we doing? No, no. How much you got? And then what I got?

[Joe Button]

Is he talking. How much I you? 25.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you on the hen paper.

[Queens Flip]

You got to come up with it.

[Joe Button]

Hey, Joe, stop.

[Queens Flip]

Joe, knock it off.

[Joe Button]

Joe, stop.

[Queens Flip]

Let him sweat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with Joe. Look, I think you going fold. I think Joe going to fold.

[Queens Flip]

You not with Joe. Let him sweat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me ask first. Is it something. Is, is it something nice? Nice that he's in? He didn't.

[Joe Button]

I think he's in a nice car. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I would. Cuz that's what I'm saying. I would. I would help him with a car, but it would might not. 25.

[Queens Flip]

Might not be dog at 30000 miles over your allotment. This is but another car. You gotta keep that car. You have to keep the car.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Are you saying just buy it? Yes. And he. But he. Who's responsible for the buy it.

[Queens Flip]

Do you know how much they charge you per mile?

[Joe Button]

Or your iceman is right. All right, all right. Don't worry about it.

[Queens Flip]

No, it don't be 10. It'd be 25 cent. 50 cent.

[Joe Button]

Oh, this one is 10. I'm not buying that car. Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because he so you know, he buy it.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, that always 10 cent. Trust me.

[Joe Button]

If you go sometimes 25 cents.

[Queens Flip]

25 cent.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I seen get.

[Joe Button]

Do you know how much it is more than that?

[Queens Flip]

Do you know how much it is on this?

[Joe Button]

No, I told you.

[Queens Flip]

I'mma see homeboy Julio Thursday.

[Joe Button]

I'mma go in there.

[Queens Flip]

Y go in there. I ain't going to hold you. Let him sweat a little bit.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Let him.

[Joe Button]

Joe, just pay the shit and take care of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo trade.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It depend on what the car is

[Joe Button]

on your 25th birthday?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, man. He's 25 and he lives in New Jersey. And he got a ring rich daddy. Shut your ass up.

[Joe Button]

He a good kid. That ain't.

[Queens Flip]

Give him the car, bro. You know what I'm saying when I say kid, bro. You got a good son. He ain't out here like these other.

[Joe Button]

That can't be it.

[Queens Flip]

Hey, yo, dog, y' all niggas sound nuts. Yeah, y' all sound absolutely crazy.

[Joe Button]

Listen, we got a great show. We got a great show lined up for y', all, man. These niggas are. I can't speak for anybody else. Now that I've had some more time to sit with this Chris Brown, the album, they going to say I'm glazing again.

[Queens Flip]

But so, so, so, no, I got better.

[Joe Button]

I like the album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, for me, it got worse.

[Queens Flip]

It got worse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I like. I liked it a lot more than you did the first time. And before, I would have given it, like, just. Just, let's just say, A minus. Now I would give it like a B. B plus. Like, probably like a B. I mean, cuz I got to hear all the tracks. There's nothing on there I don't like. But outside of the ones that I loved early on, some. The of them are just. Chris Brown doesn't to me, have this. I don't always see a lot of artistic growth from album to album. So it was good, but it wasn't. It wasn't like a home run the way I. When I got hyped listening to the first minute of every song, then the day after. Like I said, it's a good album, but I thought it was an excellent album, and I think it's just a good album, which is fine.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I've been going back to it personally. That Deontay Hitchcock album's got me.

[Queens Flip]

That's all I've been playing is the Chris Brown album.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't blame him.

[Joe Button]

Listen to anything else?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Parks got me listening to some other.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, that Deontay Hitchcock album is fantastic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gave me, like, three things to

[Queens Flip]

listen to last week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm on. Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's interesting that this album got worse for you, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but I think I just inflated it too much. It's still a good album. I just.

[Queens Flip]

It got better for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but you didn't think it was a good album at first.

[Queens Flip]

It was just right. It was regular.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's. So we probably in the same spot and just.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I understand. Just started at different. Different places, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So.

[Joe Button]

I didn't Mean what I said. Oh, come on, come on, come on. Give me the. This is being performed on that Usher tour. Audience. I found the records from the new album that he'll be performing on the Usher door, and this is one of them. Yeah, I found the single, too. This is one of them. This is happening. Oh, let's go. And freeze. You absolutely right. This album does not stop at track 20. Colors is crazy. Skin to Skin is crazy.

[Queens Flip]

Skin is crazy. That's the only record.

[Joe Button]

Skin is nuts.

[Queens Flip]

That's my only skip right now. Is theme song.

[Joe Button]

I'm not mad at theme song.

[Queens Flip]

It's the only one I don't like.

[Joe Button]

Listen to this boy, man. Listen, man, I don't know what.

[Queens Flip]

No skin. The skin is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Amazing.

[Joe Button]

Let me just get a couple of these off right, right quick. This is not paola. Nobody has paid me, and I'm buying my tickets to that tour.

[Queens Flip]

The sun be hating on the way

[Mark Lamont Hill]

you shine Pull me close as she

[Joe Button]

take me in Diving deep in your

[Queens Flip]

melanin I go underneath for your Hershey kiss.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whispers of love coming. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't know, man. I. I saw what Pitchfork said.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's Pitchfork.

[Joe Button]

But even before they said that, Chris Brown kind of took to Instagram to defend his project. Come on, man. I didn't even like to see that. He ain't got to defend nothing. The. It ain't for. It ain't for.

[Queens Flip]

But he write what he said, though.

[Joe Button]

What?

[Queens Flip]

He's right. He was like, yo, I did this with the last last three albums. We've seen this. And then y' all come right around and say, oh, it grew on me. It grew on me. So shout out to everybody to listen. Like, he didn't. He didn't take any, like, adversarial stance to it. He was just like, we've been here before.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

1.3 is just rage bait. Like, come on. I'm not the biggest fan of this album, but 1.3 is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They gave it 1.3.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

1.3.

[Queens Flip]

1.3 out of 10.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Out of 10.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's insane.

[Queens Flip]

As soon as I saw it, I said, okay, y' all are pulling the concept complex while they move.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Okay. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Looking to get him to respond. You want him to go on Instagram and start writing on the black screen and tagging y' all and crashing out as. As y' all call it. First thing I said was, I hope he don't take the bait word, because this is. This is clear.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

So then the Internet does what they do, and the dude who wrote the Article, wrote the article, went and looked up his old tweets and all this. And he's a Chris Brown hater.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Okay, so it's a hit piece. Got it.

[Queens Flip]

And now we made all the sense in the world.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Pitchfork been sus to me. But 1.3, like, come on, man, you know what you saw your credibility in. In the foot. I'm never looking to you for a review again.

[Queens Flip]

They gave the.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Like I can see giving it a unfavorable review, but 1.3 is like. Is it just an album full of silence or something?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

1.3 was designed to make people do this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even think that's incredible. I mean, I did music reviews for years. I don't think I've ever given out album lower than four or five. And those were really bad out. I mean, one to me doesn't. It's like when the source gives my one mic, it's like a hot. I don't think you can make a. To me, if the album is worth

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

1.3 out of 10 or 1 mic or whatever your rating system is, you shouldn't probably be reviewing it.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

And not just that. Let me just to further add on that this was just a piece to make people react.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yes.

[Queens Flip]

The tagline says Chris Brown's soulless hit chasing new album doesn't justify his return to the public public eye.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Wait, what?

[Queens Flip]

What return?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

There's. I have problems with like six things.

[Queens Flip]

Not just that. No, that sounds personal. Oh, wait, it gets. Gets better.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

This is not his return to the public eye. First of all, I don't really hear this as hit chasing at all.

[Queens Flip]

No, that's some. That's. This is somebody that did not listen to the album and just said, all right, it's too long, cuz I saw that 27 tracks. I'm not. I'm not listening to and I don't like him.

[Joe Button]

And let me just say that it's not soulless because he's using the effects on his voice.

[Queens Flip]

Not just that. Some people said, yo, I'm not feeling it cause I can't identify the hits. He didn't try to make hits and people want him to go hit. You know what I mean? So for homeboy to say he's hit chasing. That don't even make sense.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh no, he's just saying that's what he wanted to do. Like it was just.

[Queens Flip]

I'm gonna add some more bucket list. When they tweeted the link to the article, the tweet Says this album is a real piece. Piece of.

[Joe Button]

All right. All right, we done now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just want to point out.

[Queens Flip]

I'm just trying to show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wanted us to do.

[Queens Flip]

I'm just trying to also point. Destroy the credibility of it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I feel you.

[Joe Button]

I'm telling you, I. Honey pack and all that in the beginning is cool. With the singles. It depends. And falling and all that. But once you get to. For the moment, you letting that shit rock to skin. To skin. And that's that. I couldn't even take my favorites on this album and put it in, like, my little playlist I'll be making. Because this is the playlist. It's the playlist.

[Queens Flip]

That's something in the water.

[Joe Button]

I got you. I got you. And then we got pr. Don't hold up. Don't touch that down. Here we go. And I'm done now. I'm done. I'm done glazing for now, but I'm not. Great project, man. Between Chris Brown and Kehlani, that's just where I've been.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like it.

[Joe Button]

I know everybody's super excited for Iceman this Friday. Can't wait. Giveon is also dropping this Friday, Tone. Stiff is dropping this Friday. So we got good music on the way. Way.

[Queens Flip]

Must be something in the cloud.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, there's another one of them, too. He got a bunch of those they right there. Residuals kind of singles on this project. Maybe not the singles that's just going to jump out at you, but it's a bunch of them on it requires

[Queens Flip]

you to listen to the album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, wait a minute.

[Joe Button]

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait

[Mark Lamont Hill]

a minute, wait a minute now.

[Joe Button]

Crashing down now.

[Queens Flip]

Let that sink in.

[Joe Button]

Hey, come on, y'. All. Now y' all hating.

[Queens Flip]

I ain't on God. But the time is demon.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Y' all out there.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

So much for journalistic integrity with that. And I can't respect that. Yeah, I can't respect that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. It's not a 1.3. I mean, it's just not.

[Queens Flip]

Saw it and laughed at it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What do you give it? You said you give it a date.

[Joe Button]

Pitchfork is still complex. It's still buzzfeed.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I forgot who bought them. I feel like kind of recently.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, Byron Allen bought them.

[Joe Button]

Byron Allen bought. Byron Allen bought buzzfeed recently.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Round of applause.

[Joe Button]

Round of applause.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Round of applause.

[Joe Button]

Round of applause.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Queens Flip]

Sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Support Byron Allen.

[Joe Button]

All right. All right.

[Queens Flip]

And Pitchfork is owned by. Says Con. Conde Nast.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

So a mass media company.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, Vogue, the New Yorker, gq. All of them?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, we got used up. Nas, Conde Nast, they big. I'm aware of who they are. I'm very aware.

[Queens Flip]

I'm sure you look. You had a mini skirt on for him at one point.

[Joe Button]

Oh my God. Oh, hey, kid. Better than doing it for Cheyenne. So we got some. Listen, great show lined up.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Great show lined up.

[Joe Button]

But we was talking about something I thought though before we got into. Oh, pitch for here, then we done with that. Yeah, them Conde N squashed it.

[Queens Flip]

That quick. Holy. Listen, the game.

[Joe Button]

The game, man. Sorry.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

What time

[Mark Lamont Hill]

you got some coming up?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, man, I'm about to kill again. What time is it? Now it's time for my favorite part of mad mini skirts. It

[Queens Flip]

got the Hawaiian joint.

[Joe Button]

Could you blame me? No, no, that's what I'm saying. Shut your ass up. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show, prize picks. All right, the regular season is wrapped and the NBA playoffs are finally here. I mean, for some of us that are still playing and there's no better way to cash in on the high flying hoops action than prize picks, our preferred partner of the NBA. Every bucket, every dime and every win means a lot more when you're playing on prize picks. So don't pass up your next shot to win with prize picks and get $50 instantly in the lineups when you play Your very first $5. Pick live squares during the NBA playoffs and you could win a trip for two to the NBA Finals. To enter, just make a $5 lineup with at least one live NBA player pick during any part of the 2026 NBA playoffs. And if you're doing that, you should be unable to pick a Philadelphia 76er because they are no longer in the NBA playoffs. Live player picks are picks made after a game is already in progress. Check out prize pick's social pages for more info. And now it's time for. Ish. Did you hit last week?

[Queens Flip]

I don't even know.

[Joe Button]

Oh, nice.

[Queens Flip]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I did. Flexed it. I hit on the flex.

[Joe Button]

So not a power play?

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

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[Queens Flip]

Why you say that?

[Joe Button]

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[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. Who had a chance to see the Kevin Hart roast?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I did.

[Joe Button]

Kevin Hart roast was live on Netflix. Shout out to Netflix. Y. Yep. Many skirts. Many skirts everywhere. Nettie. Netflix. Yeah. The Kevin Har roast was live on Netflix. If you tuned in, you were able to rewind it and start it from scratch, but I caught the entire thing. Interested to hear thoughts before I get. Yeah, actually, no. Some people out there are against bringing white people to the cookout. Not mad at y'. All.

[Queens Flip]

I'm one of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You against bringing white people to the cookout?

[Joe Button]

Yes. So let's put those people to the side for a second. Some people ain't mad at white people coming to the cookout, but one harsh reality we gotta deal with is some black people don't have good plus one credit with you. Yes. So you could bring the wrong white person to the cookout. That's how I feel about Kill Tony being invited to this event.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's how I feel about Tony. Hincklich. Hincklich. Whatever. His name is a Kill Tony. And it hurts because he's funny. He's a funny racist.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He had a funny set, but he. I don't fuck with him.

[Joe Button]

He's funny, which is. That's the thing that gets you caught between a rock and hard place. He is funny, but he's a racist piece of shit. And when it's a Joe Rogan event or a Tom Brady roast or a white person roast, I have no problem because I know how a lot of y' all really feel about us. So if that's what y' all want to get to get your off, go right ahead. That's y' all space at a black event with black excellence such as Kevin Hart. Why the do I need to see Kill Tony? I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it.

[Queens Flip]

Why does. Why is this a black event?

[Joe Button]

Well, it's. Because what they're honoring Kevin Hart.

[Queens Flip]

It's a good point. It's not a black event, though. That's what I immediately.

[Joe Button]

An event for black people. An event honoring a black person.

[Queens Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do think that's an important distinction, though.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it is. It is. It is very important that be would. That's a good point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And I think Kev's comedy world is more complex than that. You know, I think he celebrates black comedians. His whole crew, Plastic cup boys, shout out to them are great.

[Joe Button]

All black comedians, shout out to Naim, who we had up here, shout out to spanking the guy. You know how we feel about the guy. We love the guys.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But he also rocks with white comedians. He's a comedy legend. So he's in the mix with all those people. And also there's a roast culture, especially at Comedy Central and at Netflix, that you're gonna see the Nikki Glazers, you're gonna see the Jeff Rosses, you're gonna see those people.

[Joe Button]

So I. Jeff Ross killed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did. Jeff Ross killed.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think he's an executive producer on the show too.

[Joe Button]

And in every roast he has, he's a roast master kills.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But like you said, a couple of them picks, I was like, I don't know. And then some of it wasn't who was telling the joke. It's also who was writing a joke. Because, you know, some of these, the non comedian celebrities that's up there, there's writers that are making these jokes for them. And it was like some of them went. It's like they've made extra effort to make the joke as wild and cringy as possible. And sometimes it worked. And to me, sometimes. A couple times it did.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

A lot of times,

[Joe Button]

the kill Tony, George Floyd joke. Horrible was horrible. And I felt like Kev smiling during it was horrible. Even if that's him with his game face on.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, he has to keep that. What do you do in that moment? He. He has to. Like, I'm watching him get killed for that. He has to keep the game, but in that moment.

[Joe Button]

And there's nothing you can do in the moment. The action, the act. Oh, please. What can you do? What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Kick him off.

[Joe Button]

He's right. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what you do.

[Joe Button]

You can make it look like you're not okay with that joke. The same way if you're in the shtick. You made it look like that. When the Rock was talking about screwing your wife as a bit, it was a very uncomfortable bit. I thought that bit was cringy too. Yeah, it was, but I didn't put it on the Rock. Cause he didn't. Tony and the George Floyd shit. Actually, before he said the George Floyd shit, I was tight because they said, Tony looks like this was during somebody else's roast.

[Queens Flip]

I forgot.

[Joe Button]

Maybe it was Pete. I don't remember. Tony looks like the slave master that makes his slaves do musicals. That's funny. Everybody laughed and he felt the need to get up and act that out and turn around. Around to where all the black people were sitting, lying behind him and do the. The musical.

[Queens Flip]

Conduct the show.

[Joe Button]

Somebody needs to slap the shit out of him. That's not okay. While we honor the black person. That's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not okay.

[Joe Button]

I get it. It's comedy. We can say what we want.

[Queens Flip]

It was edgy.

[Joe Button]

It's a roast. Everybody gotta get him the out of here. No, no. Do that shit. In. In.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In.

[Joe Button]

In. What was that part of Texas? Austin. Do that in Austin at Joe Rogan Hawkins Comedy Club. Not here. Not now. Get the out of here. And he's funny.

[Queens Flip]

No, he's fun.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

But one battle after another, Lizzo joke was very funny.

[Queens Flip]

The who?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

One battle after another. Lizzo the stairs.

[Joe Button]

That was fun.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That was funny.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He said, shout out to Regina Bell. One of Regina Bell. Not Regina Hall. Regina Bell. I am an old. He says, shout out to Regina hall for winning the award for one battle after another. That's how Lizzo feels when she looks at the stairs. That was hilarious, bro. I think I thought all of the jokes. I'm sorry. I thought all of the jokes about Cheryl. Cheryl.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Her husband.

[Queens Flip]

Husband.

[Joe Button]

I love those. I loved every joke about Cheryl's husband committing su. Suicide.

[Queens Flip]

I had to look up to see when it happened.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's been like 30 years.

[Queens Flip]

And once I saw that, it was in. In 1990. I'm like, all right. And Shane Gillis, who. Who killed his.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As a host.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't like him as a host.

[Queens Flip]

I liked him. As the host kept saying, yo, I spoke to her. No, see, I think that matters. I think if you spoke to the person. Even the racial jokes, if you spoke to the person. I think that comedians, they teeter the line. The really good ones, they teeter the line. Yeah, but you can overstep that line. My. That George Floyd joke is overstepping the line. I mean, it was in poor taste. The country was in an uproar over that. That. That wasn't funny.

[Joe Button]

There's a.

[Queens Flip]

A lot of that.

[Joe Button]

They.

[Queens Flip]

They really tackled a bunch of political in there. They did. It was a bunch of homosexual in there. In there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See?

[Joe Button]

But I enjoyed the old school. Hey, we get. Don't give a. I did enjoy that aspect. So I. I want to differentiate between that and the jokes that I was uncomfortable with. And then I read the jokes that. That were cut out, so. Okay, now we back to the BAFTA Awards, where. Okay, y. Something out. And y' all left the George Floyd joke.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

In.

[Queens Flip]

That was the I was that. That this is what they.

[Joe Button]

I didn't love the Pete Davidson Charlie Kirk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well that's what I was gonna say was people might see it. I don't see it this way. I don't. But people might see it as we gave you a. Like we gave you one of these. And so cuz that room got dead silent, no pun intended with the Charlie Kirk.

[Joe Button]

That was a good joke.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was, it was, it was a good joke. But. But there it was clever. But I would. Wouldn't make that joke.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I wouldn't make it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I'm just saying like you could.

[Joe Button]

They gave both sides the same way.

[Queens Flip]

You could say that was a good Charlie Kirk joke because it might not affect as much. Somebody could have said that was a

[Mark Lamont Hill]

good George Floyd joke.

[Joe Button]

I started with. I had a problem with that joke also.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But we give the wrong impression when you, because you go, you go on record saying that you like dark jokes and you just say I like the old stuff. So then this shouldn't.

[Joe Button]

Is there a line? It's still a line for me. There's still a line.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not with the old school and the Charlie Kirk shit.

[Joe Button]

Again, I'm not with it. But if I'm trying to understand it, that's what they are calling political violence and was a big, big topic in that world. Anything political right this second is going to be sensitive. I don't feel like that about police putting the knee to George Floyd for eight minutes and killing him for all of us to see.

[Queens Flip]

We don't feel like that. But I think both jokes are.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but when Kevin Hart is being celebrated, it is weak.

[Queens Flip]

Yes, true.

[Joe Button]

It is weak. True. And see that's what we differ there. It's no time for me to figure out how they. At Joe Rogan event. I'm with it.

[Queens Flip]

We differ there because I hear you say that and I said this is just big money play. This is, this is big business at this point. So now we getting the big names here to tackle everything. I don't look at it as yes, it's a Kevin Hart roast. We celebrating Kevin Hart. But also I'm looking at who's behind that. Some of the people transcended the black culture at this point and Kevin Hart is one of them.

[Joe Button]

Nah, but he has Joe. Granted, granted, I'm not even in listening. I'm not trying to dismiss what y' all are saying. We in the flow of the talk. So when I say nah, I'm not. But for Kevin Hart. See a common theme for Shane and a few of the people that went up there was Kevin Hart. Don't know how to say no. Kevin Hart. That was the joke. There was some good jokes in that. Oh, they was killing that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That'd be a funny movie. Which means you pass on it. Kevin was hitting him with that.

[Joe Button]

He can't say no to nothing. And that right there highlights the difference for me between him and Dave Chappelle. Because there's not a moment where you gonna see Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle is not going to be. For lack of a better term, there's not going to be a millisecond where he appeared to be cooned out. Agree. And I think that's some of the. Some of the slack that Kev has had to deal with. This is one of those instances for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

You got to know that those fine cameras are recording you. And that will be a moment in time, us being able to go back to Tony's bum ass George Floyd joke and see your reaction. I'm getting too passionate on this, so I'll toss the one of you. But I didn't like it. And I keep having to see him because he's funny.

[Queens Flip]

No, I think it was at the end of his set. And I think also a lot of those people, they left the discernment to the person speaking. It was a lot of that. I'm not reading that one. No, come back. No, no, no, bring that back. I'll do that one. They was passing some of the jokes. Like, if they got this sense that you didn't want to tell that joke on a teleprompter, they would roll it. They were like, no, no, no, come back. I ain't finished. Draymond's like, no, no, no, bring that back. A few people said, bring it back. Yeah, it was a couple of them. We read in the room. So who. Whoever's working the teleprompter saying, oh, no, that's a little too sensitive. Let's go back past it. That was at the very, very, very end of Kill Tony set. So Kevin Hart probably was already. I'm not shooting him. Bail. He was already in the laughter, getting it out of the. And that was the very last joke before he got off the stage.

[Joe Button]

Kevin Hart is a master ceremony. And he was. The cameras were on. It's the same rulers up here. So I'm not gonna kill him too much. That's just how I feel about killing Tony. But as for the rest of the event, I love the watches everybody had on. I got a chance to see that was beautiful. That was absolutely beautiful. Tom Brady, I thought. I thought did a remarkable job. He was great. He killed.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

What's the dude's name?

[Queens Flip]

Big.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Big Jeff.

[Queens Flip]

Big J. Big J.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He was funny. I liked him.

[Joe Button]

He was funny. I like. That was fire. His demeanor. I liked all that. Pete Davidson, I thought, did a really good, good job. That joke. That joke with a rock. Said to Pete Davidson, you look like a black person as a white face.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That went back to playing the black.

[Joe Button]

He smoked that joke. That was just a really funny. That was a really good joke.

[Queens Flip]

Cuz that it makes your brain think. And then they showed the closeup on Pete. You like.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you see it?

[Queens Flip]

That's funny, though.

[Joe Button]

I want to shout out Chelsea Handler's breasts. Them shits was breasting.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

They were.

[Queens Flip]

They were old ass.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Chelsea.

[Joe Button]

Chelsea Handler.

[Queens Flip]

No, I wanna. I think everybody did their thing.

[Joe Button]

No, slow down. We on Chelsea Handler. Don't try to move past good white milk. Not you. We honoring Chelsea Handler. Did you see her?

[Queens Flip]

That wasn't good.

[Joe Button]

Good move. Hold on.

[Queens Flip]

That wasn't good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is the face I'm asking you.

[Joe Button]

Did your move a little bit. Them shits was bouncing. Not even remotely. You would.

[Queens Flip]

Would I pop?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, of course I pop.

[Joe Button]

She confused us when he asked.

[Queens Flip]

He me up for a second.

[Joe Button]

That was all right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And Dr. Hit it with oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, for the money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. Mini skirt. Draymond said he wouldn't hit. Cuz. Draymond don't hit threes.

[Joe Button]

That was good joke.

[Queens Flip]

She really was getting her ass whipped up there.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

She was.

[Queens Flip]

And she was taking that like a G. Like they was kicking her ass.

[Joe Button]

Not more than Cheryl Underwood.

[Queens Flip]

She swallowed all of the. The.

[Joe Button]

The.

[Queens Flip]

That was assaulting the gangs, the black kids. And it was like some of them were armed and dangerous.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, what?

[Joe Button]

No, they smoked that, bro.

[Queens Flip]

They was killing her the whole night.

[Joe Button]

But I think she recorded the worst.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

She did.

[Joe Button]

She was killing. They was killing her for being.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

For being.

[Joe Button]

No, for being a. Which is a choice. But it's also

[Queens Flip]

black kids. No, no, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Those are also times in the grill.

[Queens Flip]

But those are also the part that y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Queens Flip]

Those are also jokes that she makes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think that's different from.

[Queens Flip]

You know what I'm saying. If she makes those jokes and puts that out there and then people are now just. When they roasting her do that. It's a little. That's how make them jokes about herself like that.

[Joe Button]

There was too many jokes just about skin tone for me.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

They said that Cheryl Is so black. They had the book Draymond for color balance.

[Queens Flip]

That was funny.

[Joe Button]

I fell out. So what?

[Queens Flip]

But it was still funny.

[Joe Button]

I don't give a. That was funny.

[Queens Flip]

That funny ass.

[Joe Button]

You racist. Yeah, yeah. You better watch the joke.

[Queens Flip]

I think that is funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like you just said it was funny.

[Queens Flip]

No, that joke was funny. I don't think some of that is funny. A lot of that you ted a line with. And I'm not really with that.

[Joe Button]

When can we move? We as in like we in the comedy world. When will the comedy world ever move past this? No, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think. And I remember if you watch a. You watch a lot of comedy. Comedy like from like 2020 until like maybe like 2004. 2024, 2025. All the comedy bits were comedians complaining about wokeness and complaining. It was like their whole bit was complaining about how they. They're pissed at the world having to think about this shit. Yeah, they can't be. So they're going extra hard now. I don't think comedy will ever get. They see it as a sacred space. And I get it. I ain't mad at that.

[Joe Button]

How do we feel about Cat Williams?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. I got feelings about this.

[Joe Button]

Talk about it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So first. I love that he was there.

[Queens Flip]

Well, before you do that, you gotta talk about Regina Hall. Cause she introed Ian.

[Joe Button]

Her smoke, her shit's the best.

[Queens Flip]

Y' all love her channeling his dead. That shit was fire.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That was crazy.

[Queens Flip]

We talking about some dark shit.

[Joe Button]

No, nigga, first of all, no comedian that touched that stage would even think to say something to her.

[Queens Flip]

They couldn't.

[Joe Button]

They went up there and said, you know what? I'm skipping. Cause that's royalty and ain't no smut on her.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it's hard to be.

[Joe Button]

She was up there. Just so beautiful and elegant and classy.

[Queens Flip]

She load us asleep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who's.

[Joe Button]

Is she married? Who's up? Man, Google, let's look something up.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

She didn't like some of them jokes either too.

[Queens Flip]

She didn't. You could tell.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You can say.

[Joe Button]

You can see her face, but she killed her bit. And then she. She intro Cat.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. When I heard his voice, he was like, I'm the last you want to see. I was like, I'm the last they thought would be up here. That's not Cat. Wait, no way.

[Joe Button]

We needed that.

[Queens Flip]

We definitely, definitely needed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fire.

[Queens Flip]

That was a moment.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. A moment of black greatness.

[Queens Flip]

True.

[Joe Button]

Not to be overshadowed by poor white people. Skin tone jokes. And poor as in character. Not wallet.

[Queens Flip]

I think that.

[Joe Button]

But I'm sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had strong catfish, so first, I was happy to see him there. Some people thought it was a play, a money play. It's important to know they squashed that beef about a year ago. Behind the scenes, Cat Williams and Kevin Hart. So this wasn't new. I like the drama of bringing them out, but I just want people to know that's a real. They really did important work.

[Queens Flip]

Like, I don't think Cat Williams would have been up there for the check. Right. Nothing about him says he moves up. I don't think Katt Williams would've been there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree. Although that was one of his jokes.

[Joe Button]

And also, I wanna say, squashing something behind the scenes, one thing, squashing something publicly for the world to see.

[Queens Flip]

It's fine.

[Joe Button]

I'm with you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with you. I just heard a lot of people on the Internet acting like they were pretending just for this thing. And I'm like, nah, they really did some shit. As far as the bit goes, though, again, I got a high bar for Cat Williams.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, I thought he was gonna go a little harder, personally.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought the first three or four minutes weren't as good as the last three or four minutes of it. And some of them jokes still felt a little bit like they didn't feel like he was joking. And so they didn't feel funny to me. They felt a little bit like, you stole my whole. Some of it felt a little bit like the material from the Shannon interview. So it didn't feel good to me. I wasn't offended by it. I just didn't laugh at it. The second half he cooked, See, for

[Joe Button]

me, I felt like the genius of Cat was to take everything that he said in the Shannon interview and build the jokes around it, which I thought he did a real good job. Hey, I said over there that I'm hating on him and he takes all my shit. And he expounded on it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said he used to be a six' three white man.

[Joe Button]

That was funny. The six three white man that was Cat was hilarious. The pink Jordans with that blazer was hilarious. I don't know what the fuck Cat had going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, Did y' all think he was fun? Did y' all like the cat?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It was cool.

[Queens Flip]

And I think I wasn't.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I wasn't blown away by that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how I feel. It was cool.

[Joe Button]

But you weren't gonna be blown away by the moment because of power dynamics.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not just that.

[Queens Flip]

This was more about the moment.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

The moment was more about the Moment.

[Queens Flip]

What I saw in this was the same thing I saw with the Gucci Jeezy verses. Like, niggas don't know that they talk.

[Joe Button]

Let me.

[Queens Flip]

Let me explain.

[Joe Button]

Let me explain.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow, that's a new record, even for you.

[Joe Button]

No, it's not.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

You.

[Joe Button]

You gotta travel more.

[Queens Flip]

If I. If I. If you would allow me to speak, I can explain it in that versus, they spoke beforehand. People didn't know that they got there. On stage, they do their thing. Gucci got his off, and that was part of the. The public part. Yo, I'm gonna get my off on you. We could be whatever after this, but I gotta get my off face to face with you. It felt like Cat Williams did the same shit. They. Like you said, they.

[Joe Button]

They.

[Queens Flip]

They squashed this beforehand. Nobody knew it.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay, I don't got that. Hold up for a minute. I have to jump in here. I didn't want to jump in.

[Queens Flip]

Yes, you did.

[Joe Button]

I have to jump in. Point taken, right? Jeezy and Gucci talk behind the scenes. Yo, yada, yada, piece it up. Say whatever they say. They get out there and Gucci disrespects this nigga to oblivion. So, okay, they spoke behind the scenes. And this may be the bit, but publicly, I'm disrespecting you to oblivion. That's where I highlight the difference between the power dynamics and the cat shit is because cat seemed like, okay, they spoke behind the scenes. But there's a certain reverence I'm gonna have.

[Queens Flip]

Well, it's only so far I can post it differently. Not just that it's only so far I can disrespect you. It ain't the exact same situation at

[Joe Button]

the event that's honoring you.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's only so far I could take it, but he still got his shit off, and he made it a lot of that shit.

[Joe Button]

Fuck.

[Queens Flip]

Felt like he still had some hatred in him, Whether it was acting or whatever, whether just me getting my shit.

[Joe Button]

I didn't take. Nothing he said is a joke. And that's what made it more ill to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I. I thought he was dead

[Joe Button]

ass the whole time.

[Queens Flip]

The Fly made it funny to me was when Kev finally went up and was like, y' all said, I can't act. That right there was all an act. I. I was like, oh, that was a nice little call back. He cleaned that up.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't love the Kev said either.

[Joe Button]

I cut it off when he came back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't seen that Part yet.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't see his whole.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He didn't need the. The gunshots and all that.

[Joe Button]

Cut it right off. He was doing too much acting for me.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, y' all thought I wasn't gonna get mine back.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you line him up. Line him up, dog. Him and the Rock with that whole. Oh, yeah, Kev with the. Hey, all my business partners out there, advertisers, Citibank, Chase. I'm letting you know this next 10 minutes. This ain't even me. This ain't even wise for business, but I got it. I shoot and back the up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's what he did. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Yeah, he did kitten caboodle the rock more the same. What was the rock out there saying?

[Queens Flip]

Rock was drunk. The Rock was drunk. The Rock was l. And that's lit.

[Joe Button]

I think Kev was lit.

[Queens Flip]

I think. I think the Rock was a lot. Cuz, you know, he's a performer when it comes to that. Yeah, a lot of that rock he did on the spot, and you could see that. Way more cringy than me because he kept talking about his wife and he was drunk. All that was not teleprompter joke jokes. My. Yeah, all that was not teleprompter jokes. Not funny at all when the Keeps talking about your wife.

[Joe Button]

He might have been funny if he was. If he was ugly and your wife. You seen that?

[Queens Flip]

He just kept.

[Joe Button]

I almost changed. I almost fast forward through that.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

The whole suck the titty thing was weird to me.

[Joe Button]

Oh, sit on my lap. Yeah, sit on my lap.

[Queens Flip]

Don't worry about it. Yo, you.

[Joe Button]

You.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, you gonna. She gonna sit on my. You'll do it later. Yeah, that ain't. He went too far.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not funny to me. It's never going to be funny.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you saying ain't funny if the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drop dead. Right? Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but wait. But then.

[Queens Flip]

Oh,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

y. You crazy. Yo, I talk now. Now I talk.

[Queens Flip]

You think that was wise?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We was watching it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, eight. Yo, the five wives start. Why you got a boy? Oh, breathe. I mean, he wasn't. No, but he was looking good up there. I mean, you can't hate.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, you look like the Rock.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, I'm.

[Joe Button]

She got type.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh,

[Joe Button]

y. Hey, yo, big dog. That's.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, that's what?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, look like the Rock. Holy Joe after you smoke it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, damn. I saw a hockey as this coming. Want to get involved?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Yo, that's funny. Yeah. No, I wouldn't have been comfortable with all that. Y' all would have been.

[Queens Flip]

No, no, no, no. That wasn't funny.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Carried on one little joke is cool.

[Queens Flip]

Look. Is she laughing? No, he just. What is she doing that moment. I don't care to the bathroom.

[Joe Button]

The rock was up. It wasn't a button on that shirt button.

[Queens Flip]

No, no, no.

[Joe Button]

That was down to the. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Queens Flip]

That look like money, bro.

[Joe Button]

What the only thing that saved. Well, we joking of course cuz the Rock cab they would never do that. It's all a bit. But when they pan to cab wife she like like that separates it that little ring start doing a dance. She said set up.

[Queens Flip]

Got it.

[Joe Button]

Reminder, reminder. Y that'll keep him straight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at this. Look the that that attack wives that

[Queens Flip]

that go get the same. You talking about.

[Joe Button]

Well maybe he can't both pushing a beat but in that she did the right thing. Stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No stop.

[Joe Button]

No issue.

[Queens Flip]

No no.

[Joe Button]

What? You cannot keep putting a billion dollars

[Queens Flip]

in everybody pushing a b.

[Joe Button]

What's pushing? If they ask if you say that

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm thinking D ish 67 is talking about.

[Joe Button]

He said both of them.

[Queens Flip]

The rock is pushing the beat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is he?

[Joe Button]

We gotta a billion on people. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. We got. We gotta.

[Queens Flip]

Hey, they got the rock at around 800 though. I mean of course this ain't official. We don't never know.

[Joe Button]

But what I'm telling you is this because we'll argue about that later.

[Queens Flip]

Damn.

[Joe Button]

In that in that moment the rock chain and Kev Chain was doing different things is all I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it's your.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you think the rock was dimming himself down? No, I just came like Mark do on this podcast.

[Queens Flip]

I came up here. I came up here on some chill out shit with a button down. You came up here you being celebrated. Kevin Hart is a watch officiant. Nado that nigga's the watch game is up there with Jay Z's. But if he wanted to really go crazy and glisten, he could have came up there and glisten. They both dumbed it down with the all black on we chill.

[Joe Button]

Oh no, no. That that was a multi million black. That wasn't regular black. No, that wasn't a black. That wasn't a black head that we could go out and purchase. They was calm. They was not calm at all.

[Queens Flip]

Oh yeah, that was billionaire chic. You talk about glistening. That Tom Brady was glistening.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

The rock shirt looked like it was

[Queens Flip]

made around his body. Stand right there.

[Joe Button]

Big stand there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My she go.

[Joe Button]

Look at your rock shirt. That is a nice

[Queens Flip]

don't you eat a Cheeto? Like he came in that. Like he couldn't breathe. Yo, them look.

[Joe Button]

Rich the Rock shirt look like it wouldn't wrinkle if you balled it up and stepped on it.

[Queens Flip]

Wet it.

[Joe Button]

If you tried to iron wrinkles on it, it looked like it wouldn't wrinkle. I don't know what material that was. Yeah, some neutral rock. Yo, Rich, you on the rock. You don't like black girls. Sit down. That's not true. You gotta put that on a nigga. Yeah, you gotta be careful. You got of lots. Lie on them.

[Queens Flip]

That's funny, son.

[Joe Button]

Don't get your feelings hurt. They'll make an exception for your girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop.

[Joe Button]

Don't like white girls.

[Queens Flip]

That whole room was a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch this. Wait, stop.

[Queens Flip]

That whole room was a list. All them was in there.

[Joe Button]

Wait. The Rock couldn't even walk by the white girl. You see the girl?

[Queens Flip]

She knocked out.

[Joe Button]

The way he had to move. Rock was drunk as.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, he was drunk. I'm telling you, he was drunk. He was drunk, bro.

[Joe Button]

Nah, they look good up there.

[Queens Flip]

They turned up.

[Joe Button]

I didn't like the Rock's fucking Draymond joke about his name. And his parents, they just put a D in front of Raymond. Then he just started putting a D. Oh, they said you.

[Queens Flip]

No, he said his parents were. He said it's the blackest shit in the world where they just took a D and put it on front of a white name and made it Draymond D on top of Raymond.

[Joe Button]

I gotta get a good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I gotta get a whole thing.

[Joe Button]

I gotta get a look at the. Write The. The writer's room. But we going to keep it low right now. Netflix. We.

[Queens Flip]

I mean, I think, you know what was in. You know what that.

[Joe Button]

You know.

[Queens Flip]

You know who wrote that?

[Joe Button]

Netflix. Squashing this talk. Yo, enough of this, y'.

[Queens Flip]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Netflix.

[Queens Flip]

I don't think we gave enough props to Lizzo. I think Lizzo killed.

[Joe Button]

She was great.

[Queens Flip]

I think Liz killed. I think Draymond killed.

[Joe Button]

He.

[Queens Flip]

You could tell he was mad. He was nervous as hell. You can tell he was nervous as. But I think. Think he's still. He still. Timing is a big part of comedy, and if you're not a. A professional comic, your timing gonna be off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, his time. His timing wasn't perfect. Even when he delivered the Chelsea Handler joke, it worked because the joke was so good. Yeah, but his time wasn't.

[Queens Flip]

He paused for that one. He was like. Cause I don't shoot threes. I don't take threes or Some shit.

[Joe Button]

I don't hit threes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't hit three.

[Queens Flip]

That was funny. But I think all of them did a really good job. Yeah, we all enjoyed it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, it was good. That joke they said about. About Steph Curry, Draymond there, that was funny. It was good. It was good shit.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think I was.

[Joe Button]

Tom. Kill Tony be blowing my. I don't feel like as a black man, I should have to keep seeing him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. Change the channel. He was. Remember, for the audience, this is the dude that was at the Republican convention making the jokes, calling New York. He called it Puerto Rico a garbage island. And he said all the racist shit at the Republican convention too, dog.

[Joe Button]

Shane Gillis. The entire show kept saying about Kill Tony. Yo, I'm not joking. He's really racist.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, he was.

[Joe Button]

No, he really feels like that. Y' all just keep thinking that it's comedy, but this is him. That's why everyone hates him. Yeah, he said that at least three to five times.

[Queens Flip]

I don't think Shane did the best hosting job. I've seen him be way funnier.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He's just.

[Queens Flip]

He wasn't on his ak.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

His comedy style is kind of awkward. So being the mc, it made it kind of awkward, you know what I'm saying?

[Queens Flip]

Still is enjoyed.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think. He's one of my favorite.

[Queens Flip]

All right. He's way funnier than that. He was just all right as the host.

[Joe Button]

Then Kill Tony almost fake dropped the inbomb ninja. All right, I'm done with.

[Queens Flip]

Again, you not reading the room? No, I am reading the room, bro. You bug.

[Joe Button]

What was the joke again?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He. He was. He said.

[Joe Button]

Cuz I forgot.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It was something about black people. I don't want to

[Joe Button]

bars. You good.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It's about fighting.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, yeah, the fighting.

[Joe Button]

That's right.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Hence the ninja thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it was like a double play ninja. Yeah, it was.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It was cringy a little bit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But yeah, I thought this was one of his best. I didn't. I mean, I don't. I didn't like much of what he said.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

His was very funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That one was right at the line for me. That one I like. George Floyd was too far past the line for me. I didn't. Again, I didn't like the Charlie Kirk one either. I just. That's not a joke.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I love dark humor, you know, I mean. But just. I don't know, it's just too soon

[Joe Button]

to see if I can get Chelsea handle up here for you, big dog.

[Queens Flip]

For who?

[Joe Button]

See if I can Run the play again like I'll be doing for you in the morning.

[Queens Flip]

I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

See if I can run the play again. See if I can make your day. See if I can make the day your day at work again. When you made my day, I keep making your day. Keep making your face light up. Legs go on the AirPods.

[Queens Flip]

No, you did.

[Joe Button]

See if I can do it for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's cool.

[Joe Button]

Try to be a good guest.

[Queens Flip]

Possible. She would be super funny, super talent, super smart.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I think so, too. And fuck black dudes. Oh, that might take you off the list.

[Queens Flip]

It might be.

[Joe Button]

I'm gonna tell her you black before she meets you.

[Queens Flip]

Okay,

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

so while we're here, do we wanna talk about watches, or do we wanna talk about Caitlin Clark popping up with racists? I feel like both of them are viable transition natural segues right now.

[Queens Flip]

Before we do that, though, because I noticed something else, too. Once the roast dropped, it seemed like there was a hit piece going around about Kevin Hart.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I saw that, too. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Cause it seemed like the second that happened, everybody started reporting about how bad his. His heartbeat company was doing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, that's because it was from Bloomberg. Bloomberg dropped the article the next day.

[Queens Flip]

Timing.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Timing is timing.

[Queens Flip]

I'm speaking to the timing of it. That's all.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Got it.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Definitely a hit piece.

[Queens Flip]

Like, I'm highlighted tonight.

[Joe Button]

This is a big deal.

[Queens Flip]

Even. Even prior to that, he had the. The other Netflix show, Funny af.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

And that led into the roast, and then, boom, we dropped the entertainment.

[Joe Button]

And let's. Unless you have every detail in the world, there's no way to ever know if A was done because of the timing of B or if B was done because of the timing of A. Oh, true.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, that's fair.

[Queens Flip]

True.

[Joe Button]

That's a good one.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, that is true.

[Joe Button]

I saw it both ways. I saw some people saying, oh, the Netflix shit dropped. Must have known this was in the pipeline. Yada, yada, yada. And you had to know what's in the pipeline because the article states we spoke to current and former employers. I'm assuming word got back to you, so. Yeah. But either way, the roast was great. It was. And I don't know how much stock I'm putting into that article. Even though the world would be surprised. Y' all think I come in here and run my mouth. I don't. I suppress a lot, and I'm very filtered. Y' all would be surprised if y'. All. If I ever gave the list of people that I think are upside down,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

you Mean financially, upside down.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Business wise.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's doing bad.

[Queens Flip]

That's.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's what the article says here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, the article. And I don't want to delve into too much.

[Joe Button]

Me neither.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want to celebrate him. But the article was just saying there's. There's a lot of turmoil in the company.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know what's true. I do know that a lot of times disgruntled employees say things. I don't know what's true.

[Joe Button]

Tell lies.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That was way too spicy.

[Queens Flip]

Even if it's true that his company is not killing shit, that don't necessarily mean he ain't on top of a mountain.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And ignore suggestion otherwise.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And this is a company that was valued at 650 million dollars.

[Queens Flip]

Nigga Jumanji 4 coming up.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Queens Flip]

Hell on that.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

And he's had two shows on Netflix,

[Joe Button]

like back to back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's.

[Joe Button]

And he's got a new movie coming out with Tiana, the comedy Shout out to Tiana. She did. She did great. She did great. She was cool. It's just good to see Tiana. She do great. We looking at Tiana. Oh, okay. He did great. I stopped listening to what that saying. I was in a trance. That's. I stop hearing the jokes.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He's about to go sit on his lap.

[Queens Flip]

You want to go get a tutu? Crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yo. Then go put his dad on the screen. Like, all right.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, that wasn't funny.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Why Comparing dad. The rock was on. Comparing dads.

[Queens Flip]

When you got Rocky Johnson up there who pecs is sticking out the head.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Follow. Then you put this. That was crazy. This.

[Queens Flip]

All right, we gonna change the picture.

[Joe Button]

Put another one up there. It's a monster.

[Queens Flip]

What we doing? Crazy. My. That's sitting on a crate. See, to me, that speak today they coolness. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

If. If that was ever y' all at a. At the event in that situation, do y' all know what pick of y' all dad y' all would want them to use?

[Queens Flip]

He already knew that pick was that. That was a bit. Because he said, yo, how you just gonna get my follow like that on that up ass picture? He like, oh, all right. We gonna get another picture for you. And then put the mug shot up there. It was almost like it was rehearsed.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That it was definitely rehearsed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely rehearsed.

[Joe Button]

Well, I know, but to answer your question. Asking my question. But thank you for bringing to helping me. Yes, you do know.

[Queens Flip]

Got a couple.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I got none.

[Joe Button]

What a had cameras.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got a picture of your father? A pain, yo.

[Joe Button]

Freeze a memory.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, that they used to be having.

[Joe Button]

Freeze a memory.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My man.

[Queens Flip]

You my man, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate y'.

[Joe Button]

All. All right, so I feel like I rather talk about the watch before we get Caitlin Clark hanging with racist.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Let's do it.

[Joe Button]

Did they really get her?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

She walked out with Morgan Waller.

[Joe Button]

Whatever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They definitely got it with him. It's just how you feel at least

[Joe Button]

is one of the cooler races.

[Queens Flip]

What?

[Joe Button]

What?

[Queens Flip]

I wouldn't give a what. What that got to do with anything?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That mean she definitely ain't beating allegations.

[Queens Flip]

That's.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's the. That's the thing.

[Joe Button]

Drake was with Morgan Wall. All of the came out on that Morgan Waller tour.

[Queens Flip]

Your point would be?

[Joe Button]

So what are we about to do, cuz? Kayla Clark came out with nothing.

[Queens Flip]

I'm saying. No, I'm saying. We just saying you should read the room and know who the.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, see, this is back.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That was his Philly ball.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't worry about my Sixers ball.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's a Sixers ball?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, bro. This is back. My views on Kill Tony doing this at a Kevin Hart event. See you niggas in yalls white world have at it. You want to hang out with Morgan Waller, go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See, I feel the opposite. It's just like. It's just like with Kil Tony.

[Joe Button]

She ain't ours.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When Kill Tony's at the Republican community was that roast. I'm madder.

[Joe Button]

But Kevin Hart is ours.

[Queens Flip]

No, he not.

[Joe Button]

Yes, he is. Stop.

[Queens Flip]

Okay? That's part of everybody's bit on him is that he's not ours.

[Joe Button]

He's still ours.

[Queens Flip]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

He's ours.

[Queens Flip]

Ours by color. No.

[Joe Button]

Well, that makes you ours.

[Queens Flip]

He's not ours by color. We're not going to do that. That. That nigga's from the bottom in Philadelphia, bro. He's not ours. Just as a black face person. Yeah. I'm not trying to dis one of the most.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but the way you talking, it makes it sound like when O.J. was like, I ain't.

[Queens Flip]

That's how a lot of people are looking at Kevin Har. Just because they look at him like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know him personally.

[Queens Flip]

Personally. Yeah. So I'm not speaking to. I'm telling you that is. But what you just said is how that's what they were all referencing. They're looking at him in that same light. A lot of that is jealous where sometimes it gets bigger than stream media. And he's an A list celebrity and none of them could have got that far. A lot of that be jealousy. My I've. I've heard behind the scenes stories where Kevin Hart was a good dude. That big J story. Yeah, it's a million of them floating around.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, I've heard that too.

[Queens Flip]

You know what I'm saying? I don't want to. I to don't want want.

[Joe Button]

We. We bigging him up.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. I'm not trying to on him

[Joe Button]

try

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

to on Caitlin clerk real quick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

We trying to big grand Coro right now. Kevin Hart is our man in this segment. Like we trying to say good like

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yo, you know what?

[Joe Button]

Yeah you freeze coming. I don't know. A lot of people in America feel

[Mark Lamont Hill]

his mine and mine only. He put his head when he do this he on bullshit. Mine and mine only we know.

[Joe Button]

Please don't be on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So Caitlyn Clark.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Caitlyn Clark do it or watches. No it do it.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

No, Kayla Clark.

[Joe Button]

She.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I mean she's accused of. Her fan base. Is accused of being accused. No, I'm just saying her fan base is very racist a lot of times and they say that she doesn't try to come in and separate that. And then for her to walk out with the guy that was caught on film using the N word and other racist lures. It's a bad look.

[Queens Flip]

It's a bad look. Look. It's a bad look.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the point. It should say beating allegations.

[Queens Flip]

It's a bad look. I think. I think it's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, I can't let that do that. I watch that girl be around black people.

[Queens Flip]

I watch her play with the children.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I watch how she champion black people.

[Queens Flip]

We ain't going to champion black people. So it's just an unfortunate thing, I think, where you don't read the room and a lot of times just being neutral sometimes speaks because you champion black people.

[Joe Button]

Mean you can't be racist.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can.

[Joe Button]

But like I'm trying to understand, is

[Queens Flip]

it possible to not know that this dude was racist?

[Joe Button]

Like for her.

[Queens Flip]

I'm saying it's possible, but I just think that I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're too rich and famous to not

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

have someone in her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Someone should be whispering to you. That ain't the dude to walk out with on the. On the. On the joint.

[Queens Flip]

I say that because Morgan Wallen was featured on Dirk's album. Like, you get what I'm saying? And this is a black rapper. Who. Is it possible to not know what this be on? That's my question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it's possible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think Caitlyn can Clark is racist.

[Queens Flip]

Me either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. In fact, I don't know her, so I can't say I know she's not racist. But people who know her pretty well, whose opinion I respect, don't think she is. I do think she has blind spots and I think sometimes she just don't give a fuck, you know what I mean? The way all people sometimes don't give a fuck about how certain things look. I think the biggest problem for me with Caitlin Clark is that she gets championed by races. There's a group of people who are so happy that the best player in college and then the best player in the wnba. I'm not saying she's the best. Y' all relax. But people. She's not. But I'm just saying people who feel that way, they were happy to have a hero. She was they Larry Bird and they were happy. And so you get the regular basketball fan, you get the white person who happens to love her.

[Joe Button]

She was their Peyton Pritchard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And, and, and, and, and then you get. I'm trying so hard. And then, and then you get the white racist that loves her just cause she's sticking it to the black people.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And so the loud racists were so loud when she was really shining in college and her first rookie year that it became like a race war sometimes even with her and Angel Reese.

[Queens Flip]

And so I was going to say. You don't think that went both ways?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It does. So, so no, that's black. Not the exact same way.

[Queens Flip]

There were people that did not follow none of this, but saw that the two of them was pitted together and sided with the black girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, but I'm one of them. Yeah, but, but, but you don't hate white people. No, clearly from. Yeah, last thing, you love white people.

[Joe Button]

So say hate black people, y'.

[Queens Flip]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But the extreme people on the angel side I think are a little different than extreme people on the Caitlyn side. But my point is part of why this looks so bad is because you already know that motherfuckers who are racist are championing you just cause you're a white girl.

[Queens Flip]

So don't give them nothing.

[Joe Button]

Don't give them nothing but walking. Well, that's my push back to park saying that this is a bad look for her as a black man. I don't know that this is a bad look for her because might not

[Queens Flip]

be a bad look.

[Joe Button]

Of all of the traction emotion that people get when they lean toward the other side and hanging with the people that's going on. The black people people.

[Queens Flip]

See I don't, I don't think, I don't think she.

[Joe Button]

And what is this lady's responsibility to me and what is mine to her? She shoots a mean jump shot. Awesome.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not lately.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying she shoots a mean jump shot. She's pretty nice with the ball handling and the passing. That's the end of it to me. Like I don't expect for this lady to when she go home. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

You're not looking for the stand up on black issues.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I don't think that it's like when we in our black space. Again, back to my kill Tony point. When we in our black space in the in centers when they was in the house moving and grooving man. No idea that them was outside. And when nobody coming to bust down the door to say hey yo, them outside hate us. By the time they got to the door, we lost.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I think you gotta.

[Joe Button]

When we let them in, we lose. Except before I'm not talking about you

[Queens Flip]

let them bring her to the cookout. Who Caitlyn.

[Joe Button]

I got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Queens Flip]

Cause you was just being one of them people that don't have problem with. No, I've seen too many times. She has.

[Joe Button]

But that's from when we found out about who, who she was, who her boyfriend was when that little rumor got out and then they found all his tweets.

[Queens Flip]

It's like I, I've seen her publicly, publicly praise black people, black women, black, Everything that made the wnba, she's praised them openly stood in solidarity with the black people. I think what happens sometimes that's a stretch student.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She had no choice to do that isn't the wnba. That's smart. Predominantly black.

[Queens Flip]

That's smart to do.

[Joe Button]

When did she stand in. Hold on, hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I asked a question. Is the WNBA predominantly black?

[Queens Flip]

I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. So when she. How would. What do you say to the people that say that she might have had no choice?

[Queens Flip]

She has a choice. She always got a choice. You have a choice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but you're going into that. You know.

[Queens Flip]

I know what you're saying. It was a strategic move to do that. So if she's thinking about strategy and appeasing black people, then she wouldn't walk out with Morgan Waller.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's my point. And that's the blind to Tony.

[Queens Flip]

So I think what happened happens a lot of times. Being neutral gets looked at. Like you picked a side. Yeah. You get What I'm saying, like, one day you could be walking down the street with this person. Next day you could be walking down the street with that person and be cool with them. Where we from, you can't be cool with the niggas that don't fuck with me or you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Them.

[Queens Flip]

You know what I'm saying? That's just how we raised. And so I think a lot of times for people that are neutral, they just be like, yo, I fuck with him and I fuck with him, and I don't. And so for us, we have an issue with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. That's why I say it's more toned up. I don't think she had any ill intent.

[Queens Flip]

Me neither. I think intent matters.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just think it's still an irresponsible choice. And timing matters. I was thinking about Parks. You're a Kanye fan, but if the day after Kanye says slavery's a choice, you pop up on your ig. You know what I mean?

[Queens Flip]

With your arm around.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Weird.

[Queens Flip]

It would look weird.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It just looks like a bad choice. Even though I would have no doubt about who Parks is, and I would have no doubt about the fact that you love Kanye for his music. Not for. For that take. Right. It's just bad timing. It's just bad timing. You know, I didn't.

[Queens Flip]

I didn't know he was on Dirk album. Like. Like that.

[Joe Button]

You gotta listen to Dirk's album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Joe Button]

You gotta listen to Dirk's album.

[Queens Flip]

No, I don't. Oh, well, not to hear Morgan Waller.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good.

[Queens Flip]

You get what I'm saying? I didn't know that. So to Ice's point now, will you say what to Dirk? Nobody would ever say that to Dirk. So I just think that, well, Dirk

[Joe Button]

has turned his life over. Yeah. And we're praying for him that he is all right. And I don't have dirt going to fight for the pro black race, I think, Tom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I think times is different, though. Like how we look at things and how the new generation look at things. They don't look at it the same. Times is different. They don't take. I mean, now I see social media.

[Joe Button]

I closed the topic out, okay, Watch

[Mark Lamont Hill]

your fucking mouth, bro.

[Joe Button]

I'm not in the mood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll turn up.

[Joe Button]

Nigga, where you just in a great moon.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't do that.

[Joe Button]

We having a class.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't do. Nah, don't do that.

[Joe Button]

But if I closed it, why you close it behind me?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz you. Cuz you over talking. You doing that again. Not paying attention to the surroundings. I Don't even understand. You hate him.

[Joe Button]

I hate talk. He hate him now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you good for your pops too. Why you watching me? You said pops too.

[Queens Flip]

Have two fathers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch your mouth. Speaking of number two pops.

[Joe Button]

Yo, this Royal Pops. That is the name of the Swatch Audar collaboration. Royal.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just people mad about that.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yo, as a AP wearer, speak up. What you got?

[Joe Button]

I'm not AP wearer. Oh, you got AP Sapatic.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, my bad. I mean disrespect you like that?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but I'm not mad at.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

So this weekend the collaboration is dropping and people seem to be up in arms about it. Some people are on the side of the AP people. Some AP people are on the side of. This is really cheapening the brand. You're making this a little too accessible. This was supposed to be a thing for people up at a certain price point. And now you blend with Swatch like this is a joke. I'm never wearing my apartment again. And you have some people that are on the other side of that. I'm going to play this clip. This is ddg, who's been probably one of the more vocal people talking about this. And before I play the clip, I want the audience to know, actually, before I play the clip, yo, if there's anybody at a Swatch store or a AP store and you a fan of

[Queens Flip]

this pod, look at for the boy, that green joint. Look, yo, the green joint. Is that. Ain't they all mockups?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah, those are all. Those are all.

[Queens Flip]

AI don't know what is going on. If it resembles that, you want it.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I kind of like them fire.

[Joe Button]

I'm not going to lie. Yo, please look out for the boy. If you work at Swatch, I don't have time to go spend the night in front of the store for eight days like the homeless kids is doing out there with tents. And they out there now. Yeah, it's a mess out there. Or if you're down to go stand in that line, I'll pay. One of y' all pay people to stay the life. Yeah, them, they got a company.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They got a company that just stand in the line for you. And when you get there, they move.

[Joe Button]

Oh, tell me about it then.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just told you, I find the name off air.

[Joe Button]

Give me the name of say no more. Is what I'm saying about to be

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

$300 for very long at all?

[Joe Button]

Well, I saw that they were starting at 300. Then I saw it was between 5 and 700. I think that on the aftermarket in the first round of aftermarket.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Easy, easy.

[Joe Button]

I got it between 25 and 5k. First round. First round. Easy, first round.

[Queens Flip]

5.

[Joe Button]

I do see it increasing.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Depending on what they look like.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Depending on how rare they are.

[Queens Flip]

It depends on how many they make and how they look. I think. I think for the people saying it, it dumbs down the brand. If it looks anywhere like an orar, I can agree with them.

[Joe Button]

The royal oak.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah. Any of them. Like, I think if it resembles them, I. I would agree with them.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

If it resembles the mockups, I don't think any AP users have anything to worry about.

[Queens Flip]

No, the mockups look just like.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I know, but they look nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But when they.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

They showed, they showed the blue one. The real auto more next to the blue one is not the same watch. Like, it's not at all.

[Joe Button]

One is plastic and rubber and colorful and. And swatchy. Like, if you paid between 100 and 300 for your. For your Royal Oak real AP, you don't have nothing to worry about when homeboy with the colorful swatch comes in.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah. No one's gonna get them confused.

[Joe Button]

And if you want to sell your royal oak today, the value is not going to change. I argue that the value goes up.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It might.

[Joe Button]

I would argue the opposite, but I don't think any real royal oak owner has anything to say. Worry about. But here's a clip of DDG who seems extremely worried about this.

[Queens Flip]

Y' all seen this?

[Joe Button]

300 bucks. Like, just seeing this make me want

[Queens Flip]

to sell my AP.

[Joe Button]

AP.

[Queens Flip]

What's up, man? What's going on? I done spent 200,000 on one of y' all watches. You telling me I could have waited

[Joe Button]

to 2026 and spent 300 and got the same effect?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, the hoes can't tell the difference.

[Queens Flip]

Yes, they.

[Joe Button]

Yes, they can.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know what the.

[Joe Button]

If, if, if. That's cuz you be the streamer hoes probably can't stop it. Yeah, they could tell.

[Queens Flip]

You feel me?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

No.

[Joe Button]

Come on, bro. Do India love know the difference, homeboy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Queens Flip]

It's down here that really pay resale.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I could see if I was getting

[Queens Flip]

my watches for

[Joe Button]

retail. I'm paying resale prices.

[Queens Flip]

I'm getting hit on the head for an extra 20,000 rocking y' all watch or extra 100,000? The AP skeleton that retail like 80 bands or some.

[Joe Button]

That's another problem right there too.

[Queens Flip]

Customer. I'm pissed. Y' all gonna make a billion dollars off this. I get it. I already know I can't rock no AP like that.

[Joe Button]

So you're not a customer of ap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nope.

[Joe Button]

If this go up too much, it

[Queens Flip]

get too hot, I'm selling.

[Joe Button]

He's on the resale market.

[Queens Flip]

See, I. People are.

[Joe Button]

And there's nothing wrong with that. See, I think that this is AP's. Well, I think this is twofold. On one hand, I think this is their response to the secondary market.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Okay, maybe.

[Queens Flip]

I think it's bad business.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think it's bad business.

[Queens Flip]

I think it's great business.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think that anybody that wears AP watches or just likes nice watches in general is not going to look at these anywhere near the same.

[Queens Flip]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

Well, ap recently or not recently, y'

[Queens Flip]

all can look at it.

[Joe Button]

Look it up. Not too long ago, tried to trademark their shape, the Octagon. They went to international trademark court. They lost. But what they were fighting for was, hey, this is ours and we want to own the rights to it. They said this shape is too common, so you can't. I think this is a direct response to what they thought that effect would be in the secondary market. Well, not just that, because if everybody sees that this ain't ours and now it's just wild, wild, wild, wild west for you to take our shape and just put something out.

[Queens Flip]

Rolex just did it. Rolex stolen.

[Joe Button]

So why would we not collaborate with the biggest. Oh, go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't.

[Joe Button]

Talking about nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Why would you not collaborate with the biggest fucking brand, Swatch, and fucking not only mass distribute them, but lean into the affordability now, if everybody's running away from that, also lean into educating and introducing this brand to a younger audience. Listen, Rolex recently introduced. What was it? The buyback program program. As for their response to the secondary market, if you have they'll buy your Rolex.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, yeah, they have like an official

[Queens Flip]

use a second market, but Rolex was doing that.

[Joe Button]

They're trying to get the Rolexes back to them because they don't like what's going on in the secondary market. I think all of the major watch companies the same. Same way with sneakers, same way with cars.

[Queens Flip]

It's everything.

[Joe Button]

You're gonna have to ignore knowledge. The secondary market. I do. You were saying parts.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, I'll just say I think this is also a response to that trademark suit. Because if now I have a bazillion watches in the marketplace, they're gonna all associate that shape with my brand, not the brand that is on 100 wrists in America.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

It's branding. It's Brand. Now this is my shape for real.

[Joe Button]

And I think it's great branding. And listen, some of y', all, I doubt DDG was there for the G shock era, for real. I don't know if he was really there for the techno marine era. But don't think that because these watches are cheaper that it ain't about to be the run. A run. It's gonna be a run and it's gonna be lit and your girl is gonna want one, your kids are gonna want one. You gonna want one. If it's hard enough just to have it. Yeah, it's 300, 500, $2,500. You gonna want one.

[Queens Flip]

I see point. I see both sides of that coin. If everybody can get the watch, it takes away from the exclusivity of.

[Joe Button]

But which watch? Because everybody can't get neither watch.

[Queens Flip]

You saying the brand name itself, people could get a $300 watch or 500 watch. You understand what I'm saying? So it takes away from the exclusivity of the watch. It's like how they talk about Rolexes. I mean Rolls Royces and Ferraris and all that. If Rolls Royce came out two tomorrow, you know, a Rolls Royce whole body 70 of a Rolls Royce is a seven class seven series BMW. Like 75 of the car is a seven series BMW. That 30%, that 25 matters. Right. People don't associate the Rolls Royce with a BMW ever. So what I'm saying is when it's a mental thing where I have on this watch and now if you have on a similar watch. It's just a dumbed down version of my watch. It takes away from the.

[Joe Button]

I like your point, but I like it for my argument. So Rolls Royce serves their high end clientele and they have found a way to serve their. They did lower end client BMW for them is them serving a different price point. Didn't you just say.

[Queens Flip]

I'm saying the car. Listen to what I'm saying. The people never associate a BMW with a Rolls Royce, right? They don't.

[Joe Button]

Don't Rolls Royce own BMW?

[Queens Flip]

No. I think, yeah.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Or vice versa. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know. But go ahead. What I'm saying is this.

[Joe Button]

But it's the same thing with who own Lexus, Toyota, we got Camrys for y'. All. We have Lexus for a different, a different price point. The Louis Vuitton flagship. Any Louis Vuitton store, you go in all these stores, you going for the. That think they have money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

BMW own.

[Joe Button]

That's not, that's not. Yeah, I Kind of figured that's not where Louis Vuitton got a whole for wealthy people. That ain't in there. It ain't in there.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

No store.

[Joe Button]

The same with Chanel Designer. So like I'm not mad at no company that figures out a way to serve multiple price points affordability, especially through a high end.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Especially through a collab where you're not even fully. It's not your brand. Swatch's brand.

[Joe Button]

And again I want want to tell you if you in the club with your royal oak on, nobody is going to confuse it with the swap telling you also because if you own the

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

royal oak, you probably have some other things on your body that will indicate that this is a little bit different levels. With the 300 swatch you had a

[Queens Flip]

black rock shirt on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Correct.

[Queens Flip]

You had a black rock shirt on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So and I apologize, I went to the bathroom. This swatch automatically Walmart's watch. What's the price point?

[Queens Flip]

300 retail between 3 and 5. They said oh okay. But once that hits the resale market it'll probably be about two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It said it drops May 16, right? Oh, just three to five hundred dollars. Yes. Oh, I think you mean three to five hundred grand. That's like right the up. All right. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'd buy that.

[Joe Button]

And this is off the success of the last collab they did with was a mega. I want to say yeah, it was omega sweet watch.

[Queens Flip]

Right.

[Joe Button]

Shit was outta here. Why would they not see that, see the craze that that caused and attempt to duplicate. I don't see anything wrong with this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get his point.

[Queens Flip]

It's good business. Yo dawg, remember also with ddg, you nigga.

[Joe Button]

That's like if we still getting the watches because they cost a lot, then we playing the watch game wrong. Like the beauty in the watch game is the rarity of of the watch. It's where you got the watch. It's what watches that the story of the watch. It's not just the price. That that's where yeah that's where we ourselves up.

[Queens Flip]

That's why was running around here and

[Joe Button]

all these bus downs thinking that they had someone like let's get educated on these watches and the value of them before we just say hey, I'm not gonna wear my four hundred thousand three hundred thousand dollar watch because they, they marketing the kids. I think it's, I think it's the

[Queens Flip]

same was doing with sneakers with everything. Want to feel like it's elitist. Yes. It's like yo, it's at a price Point that y' all can't get this brand. That's really what it boils down to. It ain't even just a. It's literally the brand is at a price point that the regular person can't get it. So. But me and you ain't on the same level because you can't afford. The world runs on that. Yeah, the elitism. The world runs on that. Y' all live on this block. You can't live on this block. I've drive this car. You can't drive this car. I vacation at this particular, particular spot. You can't vacation here. That is what separates the men from the boys in the world. That's not just the watch world, that's the real world.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

But some. Yeah, but that's also misleading because some of the actually just be like nice. You know what I'm saying? Like the Rolls Royce for the guy that can afford the Rolls Royce is also. It's beautiful and comfortable in there and even the bends is just nicer than a car that might be a four cylinder four door in the same.

[Queens Flip]

I watch niggas do this with just a regular, regular everyday like Apple. It's a Kia truck out that Kia truck is fire.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

If you took the labels off that Kia truck and made that a high end truck would buy that truck.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

If you sat in the.

[Joe Button]

I hate to break it, I'm not disagreeing with you. Kia is a high end truck. No, you talking about a high end truck.

[Queens Flip]

No, listen what I'm saying the way Genesis, that Kia truck and that Hyundai truck, they look fire looks aesthetically they look fire. You don't hear people holding them in the same regard because mentally nobody's going to equate Kia and Hyundai with high end is what I'm saying. Those trucks look, I'm talking about the look of them. They are fire. I don't give a what Nobody say them Kia trucks could look better than the Range Rover. Nobody's going to hold it at the high regard of the range.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's very surface level is is what I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

And the world is surface level.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I'm gonna play somebody that I often agree with. This is ice wear VZO and what he had to say on it

[Queens Flip]

and don't want to have any. That's like me that got money, got motion and can afford certain they got anything to say about AP dropping some affordable watches is weirdos and haters and bogus as how the we gonna get mad or got anything to say about these folks company because they made something more affordable so our fans and listeners can relate to us just a little bit more. The what type of is that? Like how we get so far off, far gone on just being suckers and hating ass, bro. We don't want experience nothing, bro. Everybody deserve to know what this feel like, bro. Pause. Everybody deserve to have certain. Why the we gotta be the only that got something. Yeah, they made them cheap. So what we the fools. We spent 50 and 60s on this. Now these spent 300. No, it feel like get some money and not want this no more.

[Joe Button]

That's that. Listen,

[Queens Flip]

I agree with him. Theoretically. I think that I'm talking about from the. The business perspective. I think, I think that when everybody can get it to his point, you want everybody to feel like or know what it feels like to have some fly. But the second that everybody gets the fly shit, that is what creates the supply and demand law. But it's not the. It's levels to the fly though.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm sorry y'.

[Queens Flip]

All. It's levels to the fly. Like I was saying, I've seen we regular Apple phones, they'll drop your regular iPhone, whatever number it is and will look at that phone like okay, that's just. It's still an Apple, it's still an iPhone. They do the exact same. But there's people that will go spend the premium to go get a pro Max. Just because. Because there is still separation. Everybody can't afford it. There's nothing wrong with making something more affordable. It don't dilute your brand. You keep your best features for your high end shit.

[Joe Button]

And the funny shit. I'd have to go and really do my Googles. But just off memory, I want to say that the Royal Oak when it was introduced in the 80s, was introduced as just the face where it can hang off of the string. What they doing now with these? Royal pocket watch. Yeah. So there. It's still like AP History and Story even in the collab. I don't see where they dropped the ball on this at all. I want one. My girl want one. My kids want one. That green one again, if you work at Swatch, please, that green one.

[Queens Flip]

That shit looked amazing.

[Joe Button]

Please hit me up 212 at 379. Please, please. Yo, DM me. DM anybody up here, please. Yo, I want a few of those words.

[Queens Flip]

Just tough, especially for the summer, dog.

[Joe Button]

And again and again. I don't want to keep it sound like a broken record.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like them.

[Joe Button]

Everybody ain't gonna be able to get them. Everybody can't get them.

[Queens Flip]

They gonna go.

[Joe Button]

Everybody ain't getting these. You gotta call your real jeweler for this little plastic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

That's crazy. Yeah, no, that's hilarious. Hey, hey, but listen, the summit's getting. Getting hot. The spring is getting hot. The weather is changing in New York. For me, all that means is robberies is going up. So y' all go ahead and walk around with your little watches that y' all spent the night outside to get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They gonna take them.

[Joe Button]

It's gonna. Yeah, but. Yep, yep. Yeah. Come on. You know what time it is?

[Queens Flip]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

Same way you was getting your iPhones took. Soon as y' all stepped out that store, yo, they come grabbed right out there.

[Queens Flip]

They had the bag with all them crazy.

[Joe Button]

No, you couldn't go to go by Paris, remember?

[Queens Flip]

They robbed homeboy that had. That went over there to Fifth Avenue to the. To the flagship and came out with an idiom soon as he got outside.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you come with me. Yeah, you come with me.

[Queens Flip]

No, you can stay. No, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You not.

[Queens Flip]

Just give me the bags. Let me get them. That's crazy for a phone getting out of hand. I went to the. I went to the T mobile store the other day. That one. What y' all call it? What the. The terabyte was $2,200.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man, them shit is crazy.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, no, we on 2te's now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got money? Freeze that money.

[Queens Flip]

2te. I ain't got no tattoos.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze at the bread. Crazy.

[Joe Button]

I'm ignoring you for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You was looking at buying a iPhone.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or you upgrading. You see what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Android.

[Queens Flip]

Wait. Wait till. Wait till the next line come.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They have a new fly. Way better than that. But that's like, what, seven years old?

[Queens Flip]

This phone is a year old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. I don't know. It look the same.

[Queens Flip]

Play yourself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been seen that since four years ago.

[Joe Button]

That phone is not a year old.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, it's a 25. A 26 came out this year.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw this four years ago, boy, when I first got here.

[Joe Button]

Same phone. Nothing that looks different about that phone

[Mark Lamont Hill]

for the same boy. Give me your iPhone. You like? I want your iPhone.

[Queens Flip]

You like?

[Joe Button]

You're the new Android.

[Queens Flip]

You just want.

[Joe Button]

Why you don't have the new Android. For real.

[Queens Flip]

It just came out the Android Store right there. I'm not in a rush. The Android Store, yo, it's no Android

[Joe Button]

store to sell Android.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's right there.

[Queens Flip]

I'm not a phone fiend like that.

[Joe Button]

The only reason who talk 95 gabillion hours on the phone. You're not a phone fiend.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Star Trek. You got the grandfather plan still or you got your old plan?

[Queens Flip]

Yes, me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, you got your old plan. You haven't updated your plan?

[Joe Button]

No, I'm never changing my plan ever. Even though it don't matter. It don't matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They still try to free nights at weekends.

[Joe Button]

You don't give a fuck. I'm never changing it. But they still slowing down there. You know they.

[Queens Flip]

I got four phones for 99, no tax. You have four phones, four lines.

[Joe Button]

Where is that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you where live in danger of

[Joe Button]

your girl and your. And your kids?

[Queens Flip]

My mother.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, your.

[Joe Button]

Your mother. You, your girl, your mother. One.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's one missing.

[Queens Flip]

I have two phones. Yes, two phones.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah, you got. But you can't find the other one is lost. It been three years. You ain't know where it's at.

[Queens Flip]

No, I find it every now and again.

[Joe Button]

Every now and again you find it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out Mama Love guy got a phone.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you a d make sure Mama Love in clothing. If you work at Swatch or ap, Holla, please.

[Queens Flip]

Any little box in the back fall off the truck.

[Joe Button]

I hope back swatch1 do something with paddock. I'm buy one of those. I ain't hating.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Take me a G Shock.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rolly.

[Joe Button]

I got good. No, the kids don't know the G Shock. Actually before the G Shock, them techna marines. Yeah, you wore it like a Rolex.

[Queens Flip]

You them shits was the damn back then you could get a used datejust for damn near the price of a techno Marine. Yeah, them techno Marines was 3 and $4,000. You could have got a date just for that.

[Joe Button]

Now for yalls era, the judge G Shock dog. I wore my J. I had a bunch of G shocks. I'm so mad. I'm just went out of style. Came back in or I'd have had 20. Could be I'd have had them in every color. Had the big one, the small one. I got. I got them somewhere through the battery died on these.

[Queens Flip]

I never had one.

[Joe Button]

What you had when the G shock was out?

[Queens Flip]

Probably Rolly Rolly, come on now.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I'm asking him, y'. All. He's big dick Danny in yalls eyes. I'm asking, asking him.

[Queens Flip]

He's not.

[Joe Button]

I'm asking him. He didn't have a role. I'm asking him.

[Queens Flip]

Don't.

[Joe Button]

Don't bail him out. What watch you have?

[Queens Flip]

It's only reserved for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh huh?

[Queens Flip]

It's only reserved for you. Praise it's only reserved for you, huh?

[Joe Button]

I'm not Big Dick Daddy.

[Queens Flip]

It's cool. I don't know. Rolly or Brightland or something. Probably Brightling. I had a Brighton for a long time. Okay, I believe you're already.

[Joe Button]

I'm off you now. Look, look. What else is important?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What else is important? I want to shout out a couple people who did something important this weekend. J.R. smith just got his college degree.

[Queens Flip]

Brunson. Brunson Cass

[Mark Lamont Hill]

from North Carolina. A and T again. After his NBA career is over, he decides to go to college. Decided to go to a HBCU. A&T.

[Queens Flip]

Got a scholarship.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to him. Yep. And killed it. Right. Was it fencing? No. What was it? Golf. Golf. I'm sorry.

[Queens Flip]

He's a professor. Professional golfer. He's really, really good.

[Joe Button]

School mark.

[Queens Flip]

No, I'm saying shout out to J.R. like, that nigga's really good at golf. Like, really, really good. Professional circuit now. Yeah, so that's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's up. And then, of course, our brother, 9th Wonder, just graduated from North Carolina Central also. Salute to him.

[Joe Button]

We love you, Ninth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the thing I love about both of them is they didn't need to. Yeah. Like, they didn't need the money. It wasn't gonna get them anything. They did it at a personal fulfillment, at a fulfilling their journey. Either commitments they made to their parents or to themselves. And it's like, I don't care. You don't need a degree to be successful. You don't need a degree to do great things. But for them, I just like the fact that they fulfilled their journey. And I just think that's dope. And we don't salute that enough. So salute to both of those brothers.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Salute to those guys while we here. Rest in peace, Bobby Cox.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace, Bobby Cox. Man, I used to love to hate him. Atlanta legend. If you're a Yankee fan, you had to hate Bobby Cox. Co. Arguably the greatest pitching rotation ever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. Definitely the best.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

By far.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, John Smok.

[Queens Flip]

Steve.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Tom Glavin.

[Queens Flip]

They was tough, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And then they got my. I mean, yeah, they got my man from the Cubs.

[Queens Flip]

It was tough.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

We love you, Bobby Cox. We miss you. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Thoughts, prayers and condolences to his family, friends and fans while we are at. At this, I want to give a round of applause. This dude that pushed this elderly dude in New York down the subway steps. Fatally. Yeah, they. They served him up. They gave him life or some shit. So good for him. You get him the out of here. And did you guys see the footage of the Fulio. Fulio murderers? Yep. Yeah. Listening to their verdict.

[Queens Flip]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Send them. Send. Send them up, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They're done.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

They haven't been sentenced yet, right?

[Queens Flip]

It's this week.

[Joe Button]

This week?

[Queens Flip]

They said it starts today. Should be done by Friday.

[Joe Button]

When I see these dudes faces listening to the verdict and they hang their head and they cry and they look back at their family and all this, you know, you want to empathize, but I empathize.

[Queens Flip]

I empathize. And I also want. I want more of that to be shown. True. That's the part that need to see.

[Joe Button]

I'm thinking why they don't. Do they not do that before they play this out?

[Queens Flip]

No. No, they don't. A lot of times think they got the perfect crime and the per. Like, we did it. We got away with this and all that. And then you don't think about them consequences until you in it. I don't even think the rental and all that.

[Joe Button]

Ain't no way, bro.

[Queens Flip]

You not thinking in the moment. I followed this case, like, just looking at it. Y' all wasn't thinking. You was just thinking. Let's get them. Okay, now we got them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We.

[Queens Flip]

Some drove the car, some jumped on an Uber and went back down to Jacksonville. You think you cool until they start connecting dots and come rope everybody up. And now the rest of your life is you either getting. This is Florida capital murder, murder one, all four of them convicted. You're either getting life without the possibility of parole or the death penalty. That's it, bro. Niggas need to see that. Yeah, I think that. I think that, again, these. A lot of these men, because they're men, but they're still young, young, young men. Yeah, right. And I think that until you get locked in that cage and you can't go home and you know you're never, ever, ever going home. Nobody can feel that because we've never felt it before. You get what I'm saying? It's hard to even, I think, put that shit into context, even for us. Defm. You're never going home. You sitting in this little ass room for the rest of your life. That's something that most people can't grasp, but we can grasp because we hear on these songs.

[Joe Button]

I slid on these niggas. I did this, I did that.

[Queens Flip]

I got this, I got that. It's a much easier thing if you

[Joe Button]

could grasp killing that young boy on his birthday. Then go ahead and learn how to grasp this little Tiny room, these three hots in the cot.

[Queens Flip]

And that's what they just gave this other kid. They gave him like three or four lives plus 221 years. And he just broke down in the courtroom, started yelling. He was just in the courtroom like, yo, dawg, I don't think it sets in till you hear them say guilty on all charges, and you going to jail for life. And your mother's sitting there. You know, you never gonna see your mother again or your kids again or your aunts again. That's when they turn around with their face like, yo, I'm sorry. I don't think it sets in you.

[Joe Button]

I just wanted to hit this real quick. You like making me sad and crying like you really getting deep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He getting to it Made from the streets, man.

[Joe Button]

It's not from the streets. He came from a good home, a good family.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, so you think that going to the streets was by choice? He wasn't forced.

[Joe Button]

I'm not forced to switch what industry?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought he was. He made it seem like he was

[Joe Button]

stealing a couple things. Oh, all right. I stole a couple items anyway. College graduates, college graduates a little late.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That should have been lumber up with ninth and then. But salute to all the college graduates. College graduate season. A lot of them coming up.

[Queens Flip]

Thousand percent.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

So salute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We celebrating, y', all, man. High school, college, man. We're proud of y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, uncle is. He will be giving you guys some money. Did you get money yet for the proms?

[Queens Flip]

No, get no money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you didn't give them promise pass already.

[Joe Button]

No problem.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You still got an opportunity to give, man. We proud of y', all, man. Just keep working, whatever you your next year is or whatever your future is.

[Joe Button]

My barber trying to get a television rolls Royce for 800 for his daughter Braun. Dog, you're done.

[Queens Flip]

No, my cousin, his client got a Rolls Royce.

[Joe Button]

His client, huh? You're right, Uncle Joe. How's that relevant?

[Queens Flip]

Uncle Joe?

[Joe Button]

How's that relevant?

[Queens Flip]

You could be leasing that thing. The Swatch watches is out too, by the way.

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Queens Flip]

Official, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's the official.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

They out.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's earlier than I thought. Oh, buddy. Oh, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Yo, if you. Again, if you work at Swatch or ap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's nice. That is nice.

[Joe Button]

My need some of these. Oh, the pink and the.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, no, the pink is. Oh, look, you serious? Is tight.

[Joe Button]

I'm getting them.

[Queens Flip]

No, but they don't. They don't. It's not for the wrist.

[Joe Button]

Okay. So where was I? Where was I? Where was I Dr. Cheyenne Bryant was on the Breakfast Club. Shout out to Cheyenne, hey, Cheyenne, friend of the show. And they were asking her. Her doctorate and her license seems to be a really big topic as of late. So did anybody have a chance to see her on Breakfast Club or at

[Mark Lamont Hill]

least hear the clip? I saw the clip. I didn't see the full interview because I haven't had time because it came out as we were right before we were recording. But I. I saw her clip that the Breakfast Club put out. Lauren LaRosa asked her about the claims that her doctoral degree isn't real. We'd already addressed the licensure thing, which, by the way, is her perspective. I don't think Dr. Bryant is wrong to say she has a license or not. You know what I mean? She made her explanation for why. Some people agree, some people don't. But the degree thing is a claim that she doesn't actually have a doctorate in. Here's what she said, the conversation about

[Queens Flip]

your doctorate, because people can't find your dissertation online. How are you responding to that in

[Mark Lamont Hill]

this new era of your life?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I'm going to clear it up once on here. I'm not doing it again. And I'm clearing it up for my DOC squad, for my fan base, for my audience who deserve to hear me address it, for the folks who have already made up their mind to not like me or not understand me. Listen, I don't give a what your narrative is. I would like you to recreate it, double down on it and run that shit because I don't give a fuck about it now, to my DOC squad, my fan base, my folks, you know, my village. It's very simple. I went to a school, Argos University, completed an entire program. I went back online to get my official transcript because I was applying to a law school many years ago ago to be a professor there. And I had to provide my transcripts, right, to get hired. And I went to contact the school and said, hey, I need my professor transcripts. I need my entire thing. And there was no school. I was like, okay, I'm confused. I Google it, says, this school has been shut down. I said, oh, well, they gotta have records. I mean, they were accredited when I attended the school. They were accredited when I finished the program. I go and look, there is a third party that has the records where I contact a third party. That third party only holds records for two years. I was past my two years, so that means that I had no access to records. And then I contacted, you know, financial aid. You can't make up financial aid. It shows that I paid for a doctoral program alongside my master's program and my undergrad program and said we can fully refund your money under one circumstance. We give you your money back you don't get credit for not a class A course a program you took in this university at this institute. So do you want us to refund you or do you want us not? I said no because I didn't want to risk the chance chance of them saying what we're going to give you back your money and it wipes out your entire program. Luckily I had you know dead to this with all of the schools I had downloaded from the actual student portal my transcripts at that time and I was able to get all. Just about all of my transcripts including up to like dissertation but everything else there's no. There's just no holding tape for any of our her records which I think is completely. Completely effed up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah I'm going to kill you online this week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like I said, she has no records.

[Joe Button]

They just want to hit you with us.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

That's fine.

[Joe Button]

It's not even that there's gonna know they gotta hit.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

I don't the school had a third

[Mark Lamont Hill]

party

[Cheyenne Bryant]

so it's not me. It's any student that attended Argosy. But again it does. How can I say it doesn't affect me because if I chose to go get a license as an lmft I have my master's in marriage from a child therapist. I have my hours. I can just take that and say hey, let me submit these for license earth and I want to go sit for my exam and I'll have to do a study. I don't need a doctorate in counseling psychology to go get licensed as a therapist. That's what all missing the convers that

[Joe Button]

sound Here you have it ladies and gentlemen and this is very much outside of my depths same we got Mark and I could still tell it. I just don't hear how that helped her any.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That sounded like trying to explain to your girl why she got to take antibiotics. Yo. Oh my. You just gotta. There's a flu going around. Yeah, hold on. Let me put in your food.

[Queens Flip]

No, I got yours already.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I pour the orange juice.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Hey, you gotta crush it. You gotta crush it up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Put it in a you a Coke.

[Joe Button]

Don't worry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I need.

[Queens Flip]

That was good.

[Joe Button]

Mark.

[Queens Flip]

Mark. Mark.

[Joe Button]

That was good. That was a good one. You got to say no that was a good one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I believe her.

[Joe Button]

Oh Mark is stupid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I believe her. What The. Or not the Muck Lama. No, in all honesty.

[Joe Button]

Look,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

the fuck do I know where is with. Oh, no wonder why he left all of a sudden.

[Joe Button]

Your. Where is Ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, y' all talking about. Y' all talking about his friend. Look, he just now closed the door.

[Joe Button]

You a bitch, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Get your ass back.

[Joe Button]

He don't even wanna be seen on the couch during the Cheyenne Bryan session.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is what I would say.

[Joe Button]

You ain't gotta pee, nigga. Oh, my bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been hearing these rumors for a long time. I take people at their word. When she said she had a degree from Archers University, I said, fine. University closed. You can't do nothing about that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It does suck. I'm sorry that happened to her. And I never addressed it publicly. Even when I did, the thing about licensure, it wasn't to criticize her, was just to say, hey, there are some criticisms of that. I never took her to be lying or anything. Now that she's addressed it on the Breakfast Club, I think you're inviting people to ask questions about what you said. That explanation to me doesn't fully make sense and as a strategy, doesn't fully make sense. There are a lot of people in the comments who are saying, look, I went to that school. I can still log into the portal. I can still see my transcripts, I can still see my records. I don't know if that's true or not because I. I didn't go there. Okay, but there are a lot of people saying that second, if you wrote a PhD dissertation,

[Joe Button]

are they saying it's been looked up and posted all over the Internet? That they do indeed hold the records for more than two years?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. I've never heard of that. And there's a third party that holds all doctoral records.

[Joe Button]

I heard that, but that was in, like, the GED school. I don't think that applied to, like,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

there are ways, but here's. There's. If I were Dr. Bryant. And again, I'm not going to say that she's lying.

[Joe Button]

Okay?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna say that that wasn't the best. That wasn't the clearest explanation.

[Queens Flip]

There's some information missing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So you got the white man getting up false.

[Joe Button]

Everybody's got a fee.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They'll come back with a degree from Margot University.

[Joe Button]

Whoa.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the best thing to do to disprove this is just post your dissertation. Just post your dissertation. That's easy thing. If all the records went away, I could show people the dissertation. Bro, there's nothing in that Cabinet boy, come sit back.

[Joe Button]

I feel like if she's. I'm with you. I feel like if she just was like kind of what she said here, yo, I'm. I don't have that. I didn't do that. This is what I'm doing. This is the reason why I'm not doing getting money. And I feel like it wouldn't be a big thing. It's only a big thing because it seems like she continues to defend whatever.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I was just going to say

[Mark Lamont Hill]

that her not the noise can mess up her money.

[Queens Flip]

Maybe her not having it, but the noise around it now where people are now starting to question. Hey, wait a minute. Maybe I shouldn't book with her or maybe I shouldn't reach out to her because she's not xyz. So now we can start fucking with

[Mark Lamont Hill]

your money, which is unfair. I mean, there was also a tell in there when she said doctorial instead of doctoral. Just saying that could be a flag to somebody.

[Joe Button]

Yo, is there a toilet in the kitchen?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You got water right here. Don't laugh from the kitchen.

[Joe Button]

Look, I don't care if you mad,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

but sit down, boy. But. Oh, you got two waters now. All right. Yeah, but ass again.

[Joe Button]

You be a lot, boy. Boy got uti.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What

[Joe Button]

is it coming out straight do or do it? Got a little sprinkle. Hold on.

[Queens Flip]

Same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the one with the D Is. Hey, see how help the get out from. From what he about to get into. All right. Dr. Sell Amoxy selling same. He got. He got a question for you about the topic.

[Joe Button]

That moxy feeling them shit work instantly too. They work so good. I a even have to tell my girl one time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying nothing.

[Joe Button]

No. Ages ago. Don't look at my real girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When I was in my 20s, I being. Look.

[Joe Button]

Oh, oh, I said in my 20s. In my 20s, you guys. Jesus.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just heard a neck turn. That's how I looked at it. I was like, fucking Mark. Mark. What the fuck you say?

[Joe Button]

Cause I ain't looking at her.

[Queens Flip]

I only know cause I looked at you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I heard it, I looked at. I was like, oh, God. No, but Dr. Bryant is a great therapist. She's a great voice. I like her a lot. She's written an amazing book, which y' all should all go out and buy. It comes out today. Nice. Today. I've read part of it. I haven't. I'm gonna finish it. But it's on audio. No, no, because it just came out. This came out today.

[Queens Flip]

Came out today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but It's.

[Joe Button]

I'm laughing at Park's faces.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, it's Erickson.

[Joe Button]

Get Parks faces.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she. She deserves all the support that we can give her. We do. Again, I don't have. I don't care if she has a doctorate or not. But again, if you go into Breakfast. That's why I never mentioned. I never talk about it. But if you go to Breakfast Club and make that statement. Statement. And like people.

[Queens Flip]

She gotta address it. That's how she feels. Yeah, she has to address it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm glad she addressed it. I just wish she'd given a different answer. Whether it's true or not.

[Joe Button]

Get that for Cheyenne, man. Get that, kids.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And she don't have it with her. That's it. And that's my thing. Is she cool? You don't got it. We with you.

[Queens Flip]

You cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dr. Dre got run. Yeah, make your run. Keep.

[Queens Flip]

He made the chronic.

[Joe Button]

Hold up now.

[Queens Flip]

Doing that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, why you doing that? And we not taking this out either.

[Joe Button]

You talking. No, he said, doctor. I'm not doing this.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Dr. Pepper is disrespectful.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Dr. Pepper's crazy again. I don't think she'll be short of opportunities.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she deserves those opportunities. She's dope. She's dope. She is. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

You know how it be, man. Some feel like all I got is my name. So, like, they. Y' all playing with my name.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She just sent a doctor off and call herself Cheyenne. And she has an honorary doctorate now. She got in 2024. So she can still use. A lot of people use that.

[Joe Button]

Wait till I get mine. Wait till me and Freeze get ours.

[Queens Flip]

I'm telling you.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And again, she might have the one from arg. I'm not saying she don't. I'm just saying you think she have

[Queens Flip]

the one from there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She said doctorate. I just don't know. I mean, again, I take people at their word. I think it'll be. I'm saying yes because I'm taking her at her word. The story sounds. Sounds fish. Something.

[Joe Button]

Mark, I feel like I should tell you before you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, hold on, hold on. Let me finish this thought.

[Joe Button]

I just want to help you before you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. I don't need no help. What I'm saying is something is missing from this story. There's something. There's something here is missing from this story. There's a lot of rumors on the Internet. I'm ignoring those. There's a lot of. But I'm saying just hearing her, if I take everything she Said there's something from the story that doesn't make sense. Having transcripts up to your dissertation. Not. Not just all you do. Like all you gotta do is post your dissertation and that stops all this. So something's missing. I don't know what.

[Queens Flip]

So, yes, you do think.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dancing. Dancing. Dancing. I'm saying, any one of you. I don't want to. That's one way to look at it. What I'm saying is I don't have the evidence on the day of a book coming out. I'm not going to sit up here and publicly declare this woman ain't got no degree when I don't have no proof of that. Again, the story does sound fishy.

[Queens Flip]

I wouldn't ask you to. I just asked what you thought.

[Joe Button]

I think it sounds fishy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With all the information you've heard, I think it's. I think it sounds fishy. Something's missing, but I don't know what's missing. Cause I don't know enough about the story. But in 20 years of having a PhD, 21 years of having a PhD, something about this don't add up. But I don't want to say she don't have one, because I don't know. Okay, but you wanted to tell him.

[Joe Button]

I wanted to tell him that the fans say when his palm is up, they could tell that it's a.

[Queens Flip]

He got a tell.

[Joe Button]

That's the tell for the lie. So he was doing it when he was saying he had no beef. I just wanted to help him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good with that. Oh, this just. Yo, you are a great leader. And I. Stop talking. So I want to follow you.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not nice.

[Joe Button]

That's up. Shout out to cheyenne, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or Dr. Cheyenne. And this is why. Don't you want to come up here sometime? Look at this.

[Joe Button]

You got a pee.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This was a domino.

[Joe Button]

You got to pee.

[Queens Flip]

Just pee.

[Joe Button]

You wiped it good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just pee.

[Joe Button]

Did you wipe it though it leakage or did you let it spill a little bit in your drawers? All right. You got infinity drawers on and lace shifts.

[Queens Flip]

You always in another man draws?

[Joe Button]

I'm always in another man draws.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just asked him.

[Queens Flip]

You went from my draws to his draws? Like, no, I got marathon on today.

[Joe Button]

Talk to him. Stop playing, nigga. Yeah, yeah, nigga. Stop playing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You okay?

[Queens Flip]

This is crazy. Am I okay?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, she's safe. She's safe, bro.

[Queens Flip]

Who's she?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's safe.

[Queens Flip]

August.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry. One quick question, since y' all asking me. What do y' all think yes or no. Do you believe her?

[Joe Button]

I started this with I'm outside of my depths.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now that you've gotten some insight from me, what do you think now? Do you.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you believe her, yes or no?

[Joe Button]

I thought I gave my opinion when I said she'd be better suited to say, I don't have this, I don't have that, and this is what I'm doing. This, I'll get paid, and I don't care about none of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do you believe her, yes or no?

[Joe Button]

Believe her about what? Her document. I don't care about her.

[Queens Flip]

And, Mark, you can't make nobody answer yes or no if you ain't answer yes or no. I specifically waited for a yes or

[Mark Lamont Hill]

no, but that's my point, so don't ask us, though. So all y' all was nuance? All y' all have nuanced for me?

[Joe Button]

No, no, no, no. I'm not nuanced. Check this out. I'm a nuisance.

[Queens Flip]

I don't believe her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's that simple for you?

[Cheyenne Bryant]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Oh, shit.

[Queens Flip]

Now your turn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not that simple for me.

[Queens Flip]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't believe what she's saying, but I don't know if she has a doctorate or not. Those are two different questions.

[Joe Button]

Killed him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Something's missing from here. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is, but I don't want to say she don't have a doctorate, for example. I'll give you an example. She could have a doctorate.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Well, she does have a doctorate. You said she has an honorary doctorate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She could have the honorary, but there could be something that happened with the school or there could be something in that dissertation she don't want us to see. I'm saying there's something missing from the story, but I don't want to assume that the thing that's missing is that she ain't got it.

[Queens Flip]

All right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I'm saying. Ish. What do you think?

[Queens Flip]

I haven't the slightest idea. I think she could potentially have a degree. I think she could potentially not. I think that if she's working outside in her field and she's doing that diligently and getting great results, I think what difference does it make? I think that again, on the day of her book coming out, I don't want to sit here and. On somebody that could potentially take bread off their table. If she's doing great work with the community, then that's all I really give a about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And lastly. And I agree. You agree with what? With both of you. We said different. I agree. Both.

[Queens Flip]

All I want to say, I don't want none of you niggas ever accusing me of protecting relationships ever again.

[Joe Button]

Ever.

[Queens Flip]

A. I mean. No, no, no, no.

[Joe Button]

We good.

[Queens Flip]

I don't want to hear that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He the one that brought it up.

[Queens Flip]

I'm just telling y', all, I'm speaking for me. I don't want to hear that no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Protect that relationship. You protect that fro. He protected it. You protected that.

[Joe Button]

I hear you. I'm with you, Breeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That be fronting.

[Joe Button]

I'm absolutely with you, Breeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He fronting. He's fronting.

[Joe Button]

What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? Else is important, unimportant. Do we care about the Kendrick deleting and re uploading?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think what had happened was when he went to Distro Kid or whatever, he used the credit card and expired. So then, like, it tried to take the money out to keep the subscription alive, and it fell through. So I think he's had to update his information. I would guess. If I had to guess, I've had to have fun. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you go to the gym that.

[Queens Flip]

You know what I mean?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Like, credit card.

[Joe Button]

You can't get in now Got.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, my bad.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

We've been there. We've been there.

[Queens Flip]

You wake up your phone off.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we've been there.

[Queens Flip]

We good.

[Joe Button]

Your credit card expired when Iceman coming. That's a. That's an odd coincidence.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I thought it was odd when I went to YouTube and all the Kendrick videos were, like, popping up on my feed. I'm like, why is this on my feed today? They said, just uploaded. I'm like, that's odd.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, I saw the. It was like, GNX is gone. I'm like, wait, what? Euphoria is gone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it didn't go nowhere.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, but I actually looked, and then it popped back up. I checked at the bottom, the credit, you know, to see if anything changed.

[Joe Button]

It looked the same.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know what happened.

[Joe Button]

Yo, Okay.

[Queens Flip]

I don't know.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think it's Tunecore expired, man. That's all it was.

[Joe Button]

This is totally not gonna happen. But I got a wild imagination, so him doing that just got me on. Bullshit. I think that Kendrick is chilling somewhere. This beef is two years old. He's done. He's not thinking about it. But. But the thought. The thought came to mind.

[Queens Flip]

However, it did. I said, yo, what the.

[Joe Button]

He does have the chance to do the funniest in hip hop history.

[Queens Flip]

Drop a new album. Drop the deluxe.

[Joe Button]

Yo, drop anything on Friday. Kendrick Lamar. I'm not telling him to do that because people gonna say, people as academics gonna say that I'm. I'm hating on Drake and I'm rooting for his demise and yada yada, yada, I'm not. But I do have an imagination and I did imagine this. I'm not gonna lie to mom.

[Queens Flip]

I did. I did too for a quick second.

[Joe Button]

Nah, now he would not do that. I don't think he was doing that. I'm just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it could backfire. I think, I think.

[Queens Flip]

Oh yeah. I don't think it would work in his favor if he did it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Queens Flip]

Shit, if he dropped the same day, I wouldn't have him winning that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What is there to win?

[Joe Button]

There's nothing to win.

[Queens Flip]

I'm just saying if you drop in the same time as me, you're doing that for a reason. I'm going to outsell you. You lost that.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Queens Flip]

I don't. I'm not talking about everything else. If, If Kendrick was to. Let's. Let's play it out. He was to do some and go and drop. Not bullshit, but he was to go do some wild outrageous shit and drop a surprise project the same day that Iceman comes out. I don't have him out selling Iceman if that happened. Don't matter if he outselling.

[Joe Button]

What if he not trying to. What if he not trying to ice,

[Queens Flip]

man, but that's where the wind gonna be on Aaron. No, you tried to do this. You tried to step on my shit and we still came on at number one. That's how they gonna look at it. I mean, I sold 400,000 albums and my shit is back. Fighting for your position on the charts for the next year and a half. It's a win for me.

[Joe Button]

I don't want us to fight over my hypothetical that I had the same hypothetical cuz it didn't make it look like. It'll make it look like I'm double down. I'm doubling down on having punch on during Iceman week. It make it look like I'm trying to relive the battle and I'm not.

[Queens Flip]

That looked a. I know how it happened.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but it wouldn't be on my ass. He happened to be in town for Met Gala. He said I want to come up there and watch. He was coming up here to watch. I wasn't putting him on my word. Is Bond Amani Messi ass said, yo, you hear please ask you some questions. You want to talk? Punch says sure. Cause he's going to say sure. And then he sat down and we asked him a bunch of questions. I thought it was great interview.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought it was great of him

[Joe Button]

to even deal with all that shit and answer all that shit.

[Queens Flip]

I never met him. The nigga was so fly. I felt a little bad. Like, yo, damn, you can't be. That nigga was. You can't be on the other side. Yeah, he was fly. That's how you felt you could be on the other side, right? I really with dude solid.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So I don't want to rehash the battle. Let the Drake fans Iceman week. Let them get in. They let him. Let. Let him have it, man. Go ahead.

[Queens Flip]

What do we have? How many tracks you think of?

[Joe Button]

Oh, short. Just short album.

[Queens Flip]

Long album. That's all I'm asking.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Long?

[Joe Button]

Longish.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

20. 20 is 20. 20 ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. 15 to 20, I think.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, I don't think it's going to be 20, but I think like 20 Drake songs.

[Joe Button]

Again after the name drop called him no. 20 songs.

[Queens Flip]

17. Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm expecting a really good.

[Queens Flip]

That was my only question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm looking forward to a really great Drake album.

[Queens Flip]

I hope it's really good.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Me too.

[Joe Button]

If it ain't, will anybody be allowed to say it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Only Ish could say it up here. If it's not good, if it's not good in any of us, say it's gonna be. You know why? I really want this to be fire. Dude from Pitchfork. I really want it to be fire on some.

[Joe Button]

Cuz we're on the side of good music.

[Queens Flip]

No, that I want that to be fired on some social express experiment to just see how the people gonna move. If it's a really, really, really dope project, I want to see how the people gonna move.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To see if they'll support them or hate them.

[Queens Flip]

People gonna follow it.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think that it's that divisive of us. It's divisive for the stay in culture. I think that people with voices and platforms and shit. If it's a good album, they're gonna say it's a good album.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that goes back to the thing we talked about. Life on the Internet versus life correct outside of the Internet and what the conversation is gonna be about. I share issues, curiosity about what that world is that is kind of predisposed to loving Kendrick and hating Drake. Or the opposite is going to do. If it's a dope album.

[Queens Flip]

I think both of them, they lines are drawn already. I don't think you can change them. I think a lot of people, both sides.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Well, here's the good thing about being anonymous Stan accounts is no one knows who the fuck you are. So you can change your mind however you want to.

[Queens Flip]

That's true. I'm talking about the voices. I'm talking about the ones we do know who have quote unquote picked up. I think their mind is made up on how this album's gonna be.

[Joe Button]

Either way, I'm come in here and say it's good and paywall it. If it's bad, I'm gonna come in here and say it's bad and pay wallet. I mean, the same result for me either way. If you diss me, I'm gonna come in here, respond and pay wallet. If he don't diss me, I'm gonna come in here and pay wallet.

[Queens Flip]

Make up some disses in there.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, like either way, like. Like what you. What you want? What you want?

[Queens Flip]

Listen, man, Memorial Day weekend is right around the corner. I just want to hear some slaps.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That part.

[Queens Flip]

That's all I care.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Some good Drake music in the summertime is a good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a good go leaks.

[Queens Flip]

I just want the slaps.

[Joe Button]

We got Drake, we got Givon, we got Tone Stith. I'm an R and B head, so sorry. I know these names belong.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I know I knew these names Drake,

[Joe Button]

but I'm just excited for all of the music.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't know anybody else was dropping this week.

[Joe Button]

R and B has don't care. They, they. That runs differently.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think there's any major hip hop drops this week.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It better not be.

[Joe Button]

Yeah,

[Queens Flip]

I sure wouldn't be dropping this one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wouldn't drop nothing at all with a beat on it.

[Queens Flip]

No spoken word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not even talking rhythmically.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that, that.

[Queens Flip]

I'm not even putting a snippet on the gram. I'm chilling.

[Joe Button]

I have so many thoughts than I can share.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Like why?

[Joe Button]

Cuz I don't have time for the. Let it happen. Let it all. Let it all happen first. I'll come back. I'll come back. In the aftermath. But I do feel like, you know, if the world says that Kendrick undoubtedly won the battle.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Somewhere along this cycle for Drake, I expect to see it. I don't know where the fact that Kendrick undoubtedly won that battle from him and the ramifications or whatever Effects come from that somewhere already you've seen it. Yeah, but in Al. In. In your album cycle. I expect to see it now. How?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Meaning what?

[Queens Flip]

Like it affecting him.

[Joe Button]

Like if he. Yeah, like if he. If he sells. I totally expect him to outsel J. Cole because of Trick. Let's not be stupid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

If it ain't. But by a little bit. I'm gonna say that's because of the Kendrick shit. I am.

[Queens Flip]

See, I'm gonna say that's because of the label drama and the lack of a single. I'm gonna put. I don't put. I think those weigh more than the Kendrick shit.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think the Kendrick battle is gonna affect his sales, positive or negative. It's probably positive, if anything, because people

[Joe Button]

wanna hear what you're saying.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think Noah's rushing to not listen to Drake's album because he lost the battle, fam.

[Queens Flip]

This is not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause he lost the battle. But losing the battle cheapened his. I don't say cheapened his.

[Joe Button]

I think this has to be somebody out there that feels like that has

[Mark Lamont Hill]

to be the people. Stop.

[Queens Flip]

A lot of people that was in the middle that like both of their music. And based on the stuff that Kendrick Lamar was saying and pointing out, they stopped with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

B. Yeah, People drew a lot. Yes.

[Joe Button]

I do think that some of those people out there. I'm not saying those are the heads or those are people that really know about music.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

I don't know. I don't know if it is.

[Queens Flip]

I don't have that as a lot of people. Me either, honestly. I think. But what's the line of people I'm talking about enough to. To affect the number. A hundred thousand is a lot.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I don't think it's 100,000.

[Queens Flip]

I don't think it's 100,000. Definitely over 100,000. I don't Think that said, I'm not

[Joe Button]

with him no more, period.

[Queens Flip]

We talking about, this boy is a worldwide artist, bro. You don't think a hundred thousand people heard, yo, he's a colonizer, yo. He's appropriation, appropriating the culture. And ran with that and said, I'm not with him no more. If that's the case, they would have stopped with him when Pusha T put him up doing blackface. That's not true. Like, if you talk about he don't with the coach and he do this, that and the third. Not true. Pusha T didn't put him on a worldwide. A Worldwide screen. Pusha T's reach was nowhere near as far as what Kendrick's reach was. I'm not. That's. I'm not saying that at all. He did that on the super bowl stage.

[Joe Button]

And again, if we're not talking about in the numbers again, remember I'm saying anywhere. So I'm just guessing whether that be a appearance, whether that be a song, whether I. I expect to see aftermath of it somewhere. That's one, two.

[Queens Flip]

I think we've seen it.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I think. I think you could tie the label drama in some part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do. To that.

[Joe Button]

I do.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

To that.

[Joe Button]

I do.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You know what I'm saying? The label drama is him suing them because they promoted not like us. So that all I think.

[Queens Flip]

I think it was a cop out.

[Joe Button]

And I'm with y' all on the whole independent. No label, no single thing. I think all of that gold in the. The pot that you stirring, and we got to see what that looks like. I also think it's abnormally quiet for Drake release week.

[Queens Flip]

You think it's quiet?

[Joe Button]

Yeah. As far as what, though, in terms of how it feels for a Drake release of this magnitude, this.

[Queens Flip]

Well, one. That's because we.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying this. The suspense is not high. I'm not saying that. I'm not. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not talking about the fans anticipation of it because we can. We can feel that.

[Queens Flip]

We talking about him. Like what exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You make.

[Queens Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Him and it. For there to be no music, no drop interesting. No freestyle.

[Queens Flip]

No.

[Joe Button]

It's just completely quiet. Nobody has any idea of anything except for the people in his little group.

[Queens Flip]

But I think that speaks to your point that these are ramifications or these are

[Joe Button]

the approach being different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Like this is the recourse to all of that. And again, when he did the. Was it 100 gigs when he did that, the. The reception wasn't the same. And it was hits on. I mean, it was slaps on there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

So now I'm navigating new waters here. I'm used to throwing something out. Even when he threw his little three packs out or whatever, the. The scary hours and all them shits, people will find something and go with it. That's how we got Tootsie Slide. That's how we got hotline bling. Like initially now it's like you throwing records out there and it's nothing like them chits is falling on deaf ears. I'm getting features over here. Nobody gives a. All right, cool. You know what give you nothing off my album. You get the album when you get the album.

[Joe Button]

Punch talking about. I'mma listen when I get around to it. Oh, you mean 1201. When I get around to it. Mean 1201. Boy, who you think you talking to that?

[Queens Flip]

48, 49.

[Joe Button]

You're gonna be on that iTunes store at 1159. Refreshing, pulling the screen down like everybody else. Punch, you can't fool me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Agreed.

[Joe Button]

At least have a hard intro, please, man. Word. Track one, please. Come on. I don't want to hear that just floating around. Ice man, baby Iceman is coming for you. That's cool music.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

I didn't hear that one.

[Queens Flip]

I ain't hear that.

[Joe Button]

No, it sounds hard. It sounds one of those 40 sounding, you know. You know some hard ass rapping is coming. But if the hard ass rapping don't come, then I'll judge it. Yell at. I just want a hard intro.

[Queens Flip]

I mean give me when. When don't he give us one?

[Joe Button]

That was it. You want me to tell you?

[Queens Flip]

I can answer you.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

This is going to seem like I'm being a Drake hater.

[Queens Flip]

No, it's not. He asked you a question.

[Joe Button]

All of my used to be friends are. You can't say we're friends anymore. Keep the family close. Want to know that why we're not close? I would like salute your opinion. No, no, no, no. The music is beautiful but as an intro I didn't like it. I said that then. But anyway, moving on. Tuscan leather. I'm talking about. Nigga, fuck you talking about? Don't keep the family close. I'm new age Drake fans. I'm talking about Tuscan leather type.

[Queens Flip]

Hard Ice is a new age Drake fan.

[Joe Button]

No, but when you dissing somebody, why you gotta say the truth?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You mastered it. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Get the fuck outta here, you bastard.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It.

[Joe Button]

Listen, we'll see what's going on this week. I see fans, fans out there petitioning for certain podcast members to stay home and not stay home. Y' all don't run out of here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where you see that at?

[Joe Button]

On the Internet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where? Huh?

[Joe Button]

That's what they saying on the Internet. I'll tell you. Anyway, what you gonna be doing this week? You excited about life? I'm feeling fulfilled.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, still not. But I'm on my way to it.

[Joe Button]

Probably talking to fix it choking the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, I ain't talk to him yet.

[Joe Button]

But that'll get you feeling fulfilled.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey yo, listen, I mean fulfillment is internal, man. I gotta. I gotta go out there and get to it. Man, stop hating. Stop hating on me, man. Let me go. Go out there and follow my dreams.

[Joe Button]

They arrested them already. Spit on them. They pour gas on your man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not my man.

[Joe Button]

You wanted to talk to them to get fulfilled.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I want.

[Joe Button]

I said I'm not running around saying.

[Queens Flip]

That was all.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's what you want to get fulfilled. He said he wasn't feeling fulfilled, so he wanted to go up there and talk to the nigga that's running around antagonizing people by calling him Rachel Smurfield. Monkey, monkey, monkey, nigga, nigga, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What it is is that he don't want to accept you gotta go get fulfilled.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't want to accept the fact that nigga like where I'm at currently. I'm not fulfilled. So what do you think? It reflects on you. N had nothing to do with you, nigga. Fulfillment itself. It's within me. Stay out. My business had nothing to do with chud. It has something to do with queens. Flip going out there and following his dreams, man. My. That's it.

[Joe Button]

And they found the transgender. His transgender.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know about nothing about that. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

That's why you got to be careful. They going to go find your transgender girlfriend if you used to have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't with that. Him. I don't with that. I said I had questions for him. That's what I said. I got questions for him. I want to see him. Had questions for him.

[Joe Button]

I don't with him any who.

[Queens Flip]

So what you would have did if he start calling you Bubbles?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We would have just have to see. We have to see. No more moment. Yeah, Anything can happen in the moment.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, gotcha.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what he said. Anything happening in the moment.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. All right, let's see. We went through Caitlyn Clark. What is this? Nick Wright?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Joe Button]

Paul Pierce. What's the Paul story? It's not about basketball. What happened?

[Queens Flip]

What did I miss?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So Paul Pierce gave an interview. I'm. I'mma send you this clip.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I love when Paul Pierce does interviews.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he. He never misses to give you something to talk about. He was talking about women who wear makeup and. Yeah, check your text, Joe. I'm sending you this link. He was talking about women who wear makeup. He was basically saying his experience with a woman who wore makeup. And when she took it off, whole new person. Yeah, she looked very different. And he ended the relationship. But he also made a bigger argument

[Queens Flip]

about

[Mark Lamont Hill]

what it means for women to put on so much makeup that they look like a different person. Here's what he said. Wow.

[Cheyenne Bryant]

But some of these women, they wake up and they put on makeup before you get up and they'll go back into the bed.

[Queens Flip]

I was dating a girl like that. I dated a girl to where I was just like. And we was dating for a while too. And it was just like, damn. One day she woke up and I saw all the makeup off, and it was my first time. And I was like, ugh.

[Joe Button]

I was like, damn.

[Queens Flip]

All this time I thought you really looked like that. Because you know how y' all can make it look like. And make it blend in good. It don't look caked up. It's a good blend. It looked, like, natural. And one morning I was like, whoa.

[Joe Button]

Did you stop talking to her after that?

[Queens Flip]

Man, it was a lot of life. It was like, you betrayed me. That's like lying to somebody, though.

[Joe Button]

You betrayed me,

[Queens Flip]

like, for real. That's like cheating if you just always wear your makeup with your dude. That's like cheating on him if he never saw you without your makeup. So, dude, who saw her on a wedding day or whatever that day was without the makeup, that's exactly like cheating on me, straight up. Because I don't know who you are now.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Queens Flip]

This wasn't who I was marrying. How you do that to me?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How you go.

[Queens Flip]

How you sneak around like this all this time? And I didn't know. I thought this was your natural. Come on, now, that's cheating. So he had grounds for that. Straight up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I heard this this morning. I said, who better to ask. Ask about this than my dear colleagues up here?

[Joe Button]

Did you come up with any names, people better to ask than your dear colleagues up here?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nobody. Nobody at all. I thought it was an interesting take.

[Queens Flip]

I know what he's talking about. Cause I've been there before.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Somebody look one way with makeup, and

[Joe Button]

they look completely different with the.

[Queens Flip]

No, I'm talking about somebody that I dated for a minute and I ain't see without makeup.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

How is that possible?

[Joe Button]

I. Bro, did you have your Lasix in?

[Queens Flip]

Yes, Joe. I'm talking about sleeping in the get up bathroom. Come out with the full face. Back when he had glasses, like, she would not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You stay in that room.

[Joe Button]

It was a dark room. He ain't got the lamp on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did he come out yet?

[Joe Button]

If you cut the light on your dodo, you can see. Stop. It's hard to see her. The makeup under the PlayStation lights.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The little blue. The blue light.

[Queens Flip]

This Is crazy, bro.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, Brie.

[Queens Flip]

But nah, nah. I'm just saying, when I finally did see that, I was like, oh, shit, she was ugly. She wasn't ugly. But I got used to seeing this so long. She did look like a totally different person.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you had met that. That person, would you have dated her?

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, like I said, she wasn't ugly, but it was. You didn't look like Deny.

[Joe Button]

Mark be trying to provoke us to be manosphere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not at all.

[Joe Button]

We know we on to you, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got two takes on this. The first one is, I do think that if you look radically different without this shit on, I never see that. It's not wrong to say I don't want to date that person. I just think you should be aware enough.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You should just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I'm dating somebody for six months and I ain't never seen them without makeup, that would be the question for me. I wouldn't go that long without seeing you without makeup. I would be trying to find out. You know what I mean? Like, I know you talk about feet sometimes, right? I have a similar thing, right? So if I'm dating you for months, I'm gonna find him. And I dated a girl who did everything she could to hide her feet from me. I'm talking about all the time. But at some point, I've made sure I saw it. Cause that was the thing that I cared about, you know? I'm just saying, like, you shouldn't be about to marry somebody and you ain't seen them without making it.

[Joe Button]

I agree with that, by the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You a freak, yo.

[Joe Button]

I agree with what you're saying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was in the studs with the pretty feet.

[Queens Flip]

Like, Zion, you're free. I saw you. Wait, wait, What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There was a stud with pretty feet. I saw that in there, boy. I said, oh, look at this. There you go.

[Joe Button]

I screenshot I got on the ground.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I swear to God, I saw what

[Joe Button]

you saw on the ground.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just gave that, like, boy, I can't risk it. Like, you. You don't give a. All blaming on the age.

[Queens Flip]

I'm 50.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't see. Yeah, I saw you, but, yeah, I mean, you know, like, oh, it's fine. It's.

[Joe Button]

Where, well, well, where do we draw the line? Where do we draw the line? Or where do we take a stand? Not we. Cuz I don't all the way agree with this. I agree with what y' all are saying about the matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't cheating.

[Queens Flip]

No, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's stupid.

[Joe Button]

I don't think it's.

[Queens Flip]

This is a shock.

[Joe Button]

It's just. It's funny. It's funny today because males are doing all types of beauty enhancement too, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

Hats was it for us.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I mean, I'm dying to know what Imani look like without that little hairspray.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, come on.

[Queens Flip]

That's not nice no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's nasty.

[Joe Button]

Be a whole different game, Beijing. Listen, what is wearing makeup is botoxing, is doing.

[Queens Flip]

Getting fillers is bugging out now is doing. Yeah. What you gonna say if you. What? Yeah. N. Come on.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If a.

[Joe Button]

What your laser ass got to say?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

None. Z. That's beauty.

[Joe Button]

That's Cuz that's a beauty answer.

[Queens Flip]

It's not. You call a Z shave. No. Did you call him?

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He did call him Zippy.

[Joe Button]

That's the beauty of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought I what you was talking about. I'm not hating.

[Joe Button]

I'm in here for my. Oh,

[Queens Flip]

if a came to bed up who's bed.

[Joe Button]

Oh, about to say, what am I wearing?

[Queens Flip]

Just like the Cat Williams where they jokes, but they not jokes.

[Joe Button]

Oh, no. I got a mean bit that I didn't get into on this part. Cause be listening. But, man, I went to one of these concerts, Yo. Sh. I can't tell y.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know the story too. Sh.

[Queens Flip]

I can't tell y', all, but just

[Joe Button]

know it is a funny bit. Boy, I can't tell y'. All.

[Queens Flip]

One of them got.

[Joe Button]

But I went to a show and let me just say, anytime I took my camera out record the came to my side of the today and wagged

[Mark Lamont Hill]

his dick around, I was taping.

[Joe Button]

Cuz that's my song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why he was taping.

[Queens Flip]

That's why you was taping. That's why he was taping.

[Joe Button]

That's my song right there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I think I got the video too. No, no, no.

[Queens Flip]

The said every time I pulled my phone out. So it was just if the gonna keep coming.

[Joe Button]

Wagging slaps.

[Queens Flip]

I know he gonna.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He tried. Posted it and the came and was looking at Joe Camera. I saw that with the glasses on stage. Yo, N. That's funny.

[Queens Flip]

Why you. You should have stopped pulling your phone out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz he a freak.

[Queens Flip]

He like if the will keep coming over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said, I get. I get too. Baby, look, I watch the stories. I say, yo, why that looking at your camera? I get too.

[Joe Button]

I can't pull him like me stupid ass. Y' all ain't talking about. Okay, now she okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't get up.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, no, you ain't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You Got this in your phone.

[Queens Flip]

You a freak, yo. And you put that in your phone. He got his.

[Joe Button]

I was recording the song is.

[Queens Flip]

You got it on your. You got Apple Music. You got record the video.

[Joe Button]

So then you keep that for real.

[Queens Flip]

But why he still got it in the first phone, though?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

He really likes that songs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He got slaps, yo.

[Queens Flip]

That is crazy.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Slaps in his phone.

[Queens Flip]

And they came over there with the tighties on for you, too. Oh, man, that is crazy.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

Having cock slaps.

[Joe Button]

Crazy.

[Queens Flip]

Crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There go.

[Queens Flip]

Oh, let me see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me see. There you go.

[Joe Button]

Y' all want to watch. You see me taping?

[Queens Flip]

Not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What happened. He talking to. He talking to Joe.

[Joe Button]

He about to start. Wh. Okay, here's more videos. All right, we going to leave this alone.

[Queens Flip]

Yo, please delete them.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, delete those dogs. No, I like those songs.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, but you can hear them. You have.

[Joe Button]

You can hear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you can.

[Joe Button]

You can hear them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This nigga crazy. Oh, God. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yo, we are joking, by the way. Anyway,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

jokes is a joke.

[Joe Button]

You mark joking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Crazy. Give me your phone. I to delete that.

[Joe Button]

He want to watch it. Oh, you got.

[Queens Flip]

You might not be gay.

[Joe Button]

You got. Yeah, you got the W yet. This guy's. I had a great time with this.

[Queens Flip]

All that me face.

[Joe Button]

Oh, anyway, y', all.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What.

[Joe Button]

What else is going on? Is that everything? I want to go home.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

You got more Nick songs in there.

[Joe Button]

Play. Oh, Nicks.

[Big Freeze Crushed Ice]

That's what I said.

[Joe Button]

Just making sure I'm not. Tony, Heath, Cliff. Anything.

[Queens Flip]

Tony.

[Joe Button]

Anything that rhymes with ick right off that. Oh, all right, Next we can do. Let me see, let me see, let me see, let me see. Let me see. Stephen, A.J. that's old Nick Wright. Caitlyn Clark. I think we did it. I think we did it, you guys. We did it again. Rest in peace, Bobby Cox. Also, before we get out of here, I do want to say, you know, we said all that about how we didn't like some of the jokes and where's the line drawing? Y. But Cheryl Underwood did get up there and let the white people know.

[Queens Flip]

Yeah, she did. Don't get it up.

[Joe Button]

Listen, there a lot of skin tone jokes up here. Remember? Where you at?

[Queens Flip]

Inglewood.

[Joe Button]

We in Englewood. Y' all will get. I'm glad that she did that.

[Queens Flip]

No, she said, yo, if you would have let that word slip, you wouldn't have got out of this alive. Be clear.

[Joe Button]

Sure enough, I'm glad she did that. I don't know if she was joking or not, but it needed to be said.

[Queens Flip]

She. She. It wasn't Jo. It was hot. I ain't playing. I wonder if she. I wonder if she's still a Republican.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a good question.

[Queens Flip]

She used to be a stark Republican. I wonder who.

[Joe Button]

Cheryl Underwood.

[Queens Flip]

I wonder in this climate.

[Joe Button]

They was throwing out the Republican Zionist. He was at the. The rah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Queens Flip]

You know, they was doing a lot of pedophilia jokes. Yeah, it was a lot of them, bro. Yeah, it was a lot of them.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Queens Flip]

I was like, yo, what the.

[Joe Button]

Yo, again, Congrats to Kev. Congrats, Kev. I like a good roast, so, I mean, but yeah, some of that. I wasn't with Good time today. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. Go Nicks. Enjoy the rest. Enjoy the break. I'm so stupid. Freeze. When we were doing our Chris Brown breakdown last part, this is the song. The last verse of this song I thought was Sway le. And we had just played the song and I was like, where's that song?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead, take a shot.

[Joe Button]

If your team is still in the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

playoffs,

[Joe Button]

if not a hockey team going, basketball team going, it's over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's baseball season. That's all I care about.

[Joe Button]

Yo. Hopefully y' all enjoyed this broadcast. Until next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell, adios, arrivederchi, Hasta la vista, Au revoir. So long, goodbye. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last act as if it's all we have. And last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it again. If you work at a Swatch or a ap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hit us up.

[Queens Flip]

On.

[Joe Button]

What y' all doing this week. Anything. Anything fun. Anything fun, interesting. Anything fun. Just chilling, working, chilling, catching a vibe. It's going to be 80 to 90 degrees. 80, 90 degrees this week. Oh, Swee T, Tell me you don't sound like Sway. And then. Yeah, yeah, I just put with Slick. Sweet. Y' all hold it down out there, man. We'll be back, same time, same place this weekend. Enjoy yourself. Rest in peace, Bobby Cox. Shout out to the Patroni. Shout out to the Patronies.

[Queens Flip]

Ego.

[Joe Button]

I thought he was about to kill it right here. Yo, if you're not signed up, go ahead and sign up right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To that.

[Joe Button]

Joe Button. Patreon at martial. Patreon. Edamani. Patreon. Netflix. Patreon. Now's a good time to do so. How's that for negative negativity? Highlighter you. I mean, That's my song. Y. I ain't going to hold you.

[Queens Flip]

We'll fold that up right now.

[Joe Button]

Oops, sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at Mark.

[Joe Button]

Shut the up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm from the Weber Nitty era. It's the network.