Episode 934 |"The Roots Remember"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 934 | "The Roots Remember"

Release Date: June 3, 2026
Main Theme:
A raucous, in-depth discussion of Jay-Z's headline-shaking freestyle at The Roots Picnic, the culture and psychology of rap beefs and responses, messy current events (including the Daphne Joy-Puff tape leak), and hilarious but sometimes biting group banter on everything from graduations to NBA Finals.

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the hip-hop world reacting to Jay-Z's viral freestyle at the Roots Picnic, with the Joe Budden Podcast crew deep-diving into its bars, references, and cultural significance. The mood alternates between serious analysis, wild humor, personal storytelling, and open debates about competition, pride, and legacy in rap and beyond. Along the way, the cast tackles recent scandals (notably the Daphne Joy/Puff video leak), the NBA Finals, and the pressures of public life.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Jay-Z’s “Roots Picnic” Freestyle: Breakdown, Reception, and Rap Culture

[20:07] – [44:43]

• Opening Talk Around the Freestyle

  • Crew reacts to Jay-Z opening The Roots Picnic with a surprise, heavily URL/battle-rap-styled acapella freestyle.
  • Immediate buzz over the freestyle’s subject matter: direct shots at Tony Busby, Dame Dash, Tory Lanez's dad, Nicki Minaj/Ken, and Drake.
  • Quote (Ice, 24:33): "To me, this sound very URLish."
  • The technique and tone are dissected at length, with many noting how gritty and aggressive Hov sounded.

• Breath Control, Performance, and Age

  • Pod comments on Jay-Z’s breath control: "His breathing is different," notes Joe [27:57]. Parks and others attribute this partly to rust from not performing new material in years, but also his age (56).

• Breakdown of Key Bars and Layered References

  • They meticulously go through the double and triple entendres, specifically the section referencing “killing them softly”, Lauryn Hill, The Fugees, The Wire, Barbie/Ken wordplay, all addressed in the verse [30:38–39:49].
  • Discussion on the battle-rappers influence—several hear shades of Loaded Lux in Hov’s delivery.

• Is This a Rollout? Album Speculation & Rap Politics

  • General impression that Jay is prepping an album, based on visibility and “the hair thing.”
  • Quote (Mark, 25:17): "The hair did it for me. But then I heard somebody...saying that it’s coming out soon."
  • Speculation on whether this is the first salvo in a bigger campaign against Drake or if Jay-Z is simply clearing his name.

• Philosophy of Responding and Who Should Get Named

  • Joe gets philosophical about Hov’s “privilege” in battle, wishing his next bars would “punch up”—take aim at society, power, not at lesser-known adversaries.
  • Crew debates Jay’s statement from his recent GQ interview about being "past battling"—wondering if there's really a contradiction or simply Jay exercising his right to set boundaries in beef.

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2. Rap Beefs, Ego, and the Nature of Competition

[43:44] – [50:52]

• Debate on Whether Jay-Z Should Engage at All

  • Joe and Ice debate whether JAY-Z should even dignify “lesser” opponents in 2026.
  • Quote (Joe, 42:39): "If I’m gonna get a new verse from him...I would like the time better spent if you, in the verse, telling me my fight is with them up there."
  • Ish and Mark see it as natural: "I was quiet. Between the shit Busby was doing, the shit that old girl been saying...I heard it" [46:13].

• How Jay’s Barbs Are Both Petty and Deeply Personal

  • The hosts acknowledge the direct, personal nature of the insults traded—recognizing the cumulative effect of conspiracy theories about Jay’s family, the public scrutiny, and the understandable human need to respond.
  • Quote (Mark, 46:27): "You talking about my kids, my family, my legacy...I’m a human being. I got flesh and blood. I’m addressing something."

• What Should/Will Drake Do?

  • Heated debate over whether Drake should respond, with most suggesting it’s a potential trap ("Drake does himself a huge disservice if he tries to go toe to toe with Jay-Z right now" [59:53]).
  • Questions on who benefits from dragging this out, and whether ongoing public beefs are good or bad for hip-hop.

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3. The Roots Picnic Recap: Logistics, Setlist, and Culture

[16:22] – [19:56], [64:00] – [65:55]

• Getting into the Venue

  • Stories of the chaos, traffic, and long lines, especially with this year’s improved logistics over before, but still lots of confusion.

• Music Highlights

  • Festival food (Philly pizza slander) and DJ sets before Hov.
  • Shout outs to set list curation—using live band and guest appearances, including Bilal, Jasmine Sullivan, State Property, and Meek Mill.
  • Quote (Parks, 64:14): "Jasmine came out to ‘Feelin’ It’ ... really great set list... the main thing I was there for was what you do in Philly and it didn’t disappoint."

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4. Controversy: Daphne Joy, Puff, and Revenge Porn

[91:00] – [116:01]

• Addressing the Leak

  • The group discusses, with characteristic irreverence but also seriousness, the viral leak of a sex tape involving Puff and Daphne Joy.
  • Extended digression on anatomy, pride, and how leaking tapes affects everyone involved.
  • Sympathy (albeit snarky) is expressed for the son most of all, but also for Puff and Daphne as victims of invasion of privacy ("The worst for the son. That's high school ... That's fucked up" [125:16–125:20]).

• Daphne’s Statement

  • Reading and analyzing Daphne’s public statement, with skepticism ("You could talk to somebody else ... You was looking dead in the camera" [103:09]).
  • Broader conversation about revenge porn, consent, legal implications, and the complicated public perception of sexuality and victimhood.

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5. Current Events & Side Conversations

Graduation and Youth Futures
[158:19] – [170:25]

• Joe cracks about high school/college graduations and the sometimes forced optimism of graduation quotes.
• Banter about how some kids very obviously "have a dim future." [168:05]
• Mark: "To me, a dim future just means the odds ain't on your side."
• They gently roast underachievers vs. overachievers at graduation ceremonies.

NBA Finals & Knicks Fandom [78:24] – [90:07], [216:19] – [227:23]

• Spirited Knicks vs. Spurs banter—each side expressing fierce confidence ahead of the 2026 Finals.
• Assessing star matchups (Brunson vs. Wembanyama), city pride, and what being a true fan means.

Sauce Walka, Pimp Culture, & Baby Mama Drama
[131:32] – [145:13]

• Humorous but surprisingly deep foray into rapper Sauce Walka, Drake, and the intersection of old-school pimp rules vs. new-age relationships.
• The crew hashes out the economics, pride, and emotional messiness of who owns what, who can buy what, and the blurred lines when business, sex, and feelings collide.

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6. Hip-Hop Competition, Legacy, and Generational Change

[200:01] – [215:15]

• Jadakiss vs. 38 Spesh
  • 38 Spesh claims Jada’s ducking him; panel debates if there’s any truth or if it’s just shit-talking to get a response.
  • Quote (Joe, 204:41): "It’s smut on my name..."
  • Discussion of how battle invitations/public prods have gone wrong (Joe recounts being blackballed for talking spicy in the 2000s).

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7. Loose Gems, Jokes & Memorable Moments

• Jokes about “Potter of the Month” award; Mark Lamont Hill gets it this episode.
• Wild, sprawling argument over “who got a bigger dick” — both as juvenile chest-thumping and as a metaphor for rap/ego/legacy.
• Mark’s story about avoiding giving his son a “Junior” name (naming and generational baggage).
• Who really belongs in the Black Greatest Song Hall of Fame? – Fantasia’s “When I See You” gets an epic debate over where it ranks among R&B timeless records ([148:22]–[157:11]).
• Joe’s closing hypothetical: If you’re the Knicks owner, do you invite Trump to the Finals?
  • Debate about optics, politics, and sportsmanship [216:19]–[223:27].

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• "His breathing is different." — Joe, on Jay-Z sounding rusty (27:57)
• "This sounded very URLish...is that Lux or Hov?" — Ice, on Jay-Z’s freestyle (24:33)
• "If you put my name in your song, you playing with my corner." — Joe, on rap world rules (138:03)
• "Does Drake really want to go in the ring with Jay-Z right now?" — Ish (60:09)
• "I would never want to hear nothing like this on a beat. This does not deserve a beat." — Parks, on Hov's acapella (57:06)
• "You can't buy a pimp's girl a car." — Joe (139:11)
• "Life be lifin', bro." — Boosie, explaining his legal problems (195:08)
• "Niggas need a little slap inside their head." — Parks, endorsing the need for reminders in rap (54:28)
• "Go Knicks!" — Multiple, at several points ([62:00], [227:22])

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Tone & Group Vibe

• Language: Raw, freewheeling, witty, at times biting, always chemistry-laced; authentic to the hip-hop/R&B podcast space.
• Debate Style: Multiple talk-overs, playful antagonism, ego standoffs, but also camaraderie and vulnerability especially when talking about fame, parenting, and public mishaps.
• Memorable for: Its blending of scene-by-scene rap breakdowns, irreverent sex talk, and honest slow-motion autopsies of pride, ambition, and boundaries in modern Black entertainment.

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Conclusion

Episode 934 of The Joe Budden Podcast embodies the modern hip-hop talk show at its best and most chaotic: deeply committed to honoring the culture, unafraid to challenge its biggest icons, and always bringing it back to issues of pride, legacy, humor, and the messy collision of public and private lives. Jay-Z’s new (old) tricks are the spark; the show itself is the bonfire.

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For Rap Fans, TL;DR:
Jay-Z’s “Roots” verse is battle rap as classical art—much discussed, much dissected, possibly the prelude to new music or renewed beef with Drake. Revenge porn in the headlines gets a heavy roast but a serious side. Knicks fans are loving their Finals run, and the eternal question of hip-hop legacy—how you respond, who you battle, and what you have to prove at any age—looms large.

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For new listeners:
If you want thoughtful bar breakdowns, high-level hip-hop analysis, raunchy jokes, and inside stories from a spectrum of Black men who’ve lived the culture, you’re home.

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Notable Segments & Timestamps:

• Jay-Z's Freestyle Breakdown: [20:07] – [44:43]
• Daphne Joy / Puff Scandal Talk: [91:00] – [116:01]
• Graduation Ruminations: [158:19] – [170:25]
• Knicks & NBA Finals: [78:24] – [90:07], [216:19] – [227:23]
• Jadakiss vs. 38 Spesh: [200:01] – [215:15]

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(For a full bar-by-bar Jay-Z breakdown or any specific quote, see above timestamps.)

Transcript

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That'd be all right.

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No, the people tired of me. The people tired of me shooting this like. And this part is better when we love on each other.

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I guess

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that's what we're known for here.

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Word. Hell you talking about?

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Look at y'. All. How y' all doing, man? What's up? What's up, man?

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Yes, sir.

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We here.

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We here.

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Here.

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What up?

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Call before the store.

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Come on. Look at you. I hate when. Come on, man. Oh, I hate it. Is you dressed like that on one of these.

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These episodes?

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This is one of them episodes, man.

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What episodes?

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One of them. Oh, come on.

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Who going to tell them? Come on, somebody tell them.

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HOV did a freestyle.

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This is a classic episode. This is a classic episode.

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See how we got. You know how certain episodes be, like, highly anticipated and some of them, you know, like the second it drop.

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Even having to explain this is taking some of the.

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The luster up of this. Yeah, I more man be tapped in.

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Gotcha.

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Just one of them, though.

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Just one of them.

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1.

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This.

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Don't get excited about nothing.

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He's conflicted today.

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Yeah, let some pretty feet walking here.

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He's conflicted today.

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I can see that.

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Such as many out there. I mean, totally understandable.

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Totally understandable.

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We have a good talk.

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You don't know how you conflicted?

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Not at all, cuz.

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You OVO and Rockefeller.

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Yeah, he knows Rockefeller first, though.

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Ovo.

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I don't know.

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Don't kiss my ass unless they cut me a check.

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You don't know that.

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They're not could kiss my ass unless they cut me a check.

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I ain't conflicted about nothing.

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Boy.

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We did a good job.

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That's what he's talking about.

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Is you talking about. He worked on that. Yeah, he worked on that line. He worked on that one.

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I worked. Well, I know me and Ice was

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prepping over the phone.

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Damn. What side I'm gonna be on.

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That's hard.

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Yeah.

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Am I conflicted? A little bit.

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You might be conflicted.

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It should make you. Make you take a tough look in the mirror a little bit. Come on, man. Stop playing with me, man.

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It ain't tde Rockefeller.

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Oh, oh, oh. Then you would have him.

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Then you be in the pickle.

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Who you sending a check? That too.

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Then it'd be a pickle. You good?

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You good. It wouldn't be a pickle.

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Okay.

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Or anything else from Jersey Mike's. It'd be just fine.

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And Jersey Mike's.

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That's cool. Anybody before we start, y' all pick the side.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh my God.

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No, I don't pick sides.

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I didn't pick sides.

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You don't pick sides.

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I don't

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the side of the music side picked.

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Mic check 1-2-12, mic check 12. It's go nicks. Whenever I'm in the building, you know what the tell my boy.

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Ladies and gentlemen, you h to I want to thank everybody out there for they purchase. Surely appreciate it.

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Always for the ladies.

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Always for the ladies purchase.

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My thoughts what you say?

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Purchase thank everybody for their purchase. It was different thank yous back in the day.

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Yeah old school

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this when talking in the beginning of the intro was fly.

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they Carolina what up Florida what up?

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Stand and fight soldier H fighting all what could you do to me? She not new to me

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but you

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will respect me simple as that. So off we go let the trumpets blow and hold on because the driver of the mission is a bro the

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rule is back I ain't going to lie now my effects is going Everything is going now. God damn man. Oh come on. Come on. Oh come on man. This ain't. This ain't what it's supposed to be. Oh man, come on.

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This is a public service announcement sponsored

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by just Blaze and the good folks at Rockefeller Records.

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You alright?

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Fellow Americans sincerity that I present this

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recording as a living testament and regulation

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of course we're in the making during

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our generation I think I said it twice.

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Allow me to reintroduce myself My name is Ho ho H to the OV I used to move snowflakes by the OC I guess even back then you can call me CEO of the rock

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music was there for this supplier

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got the hottest chick in the game Weighing my chain that's right, ho ho, not Doc but similar to the letters no one can do it better I check cheddar like a food inspector My homie Strict told me, dude, finish your breakfast so that's what I'mma do Take you back to the dude with the lexicon Fat boy the jewels in the necklace Let me tell you dudes what I do to protect us shoot at you actors like movie directors say the movie

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dogs Let me just say I did

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not come here to show out. Did not come here to impress you.

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Because to tell you the truth, when I leave here, I'm gone.

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And I don't care what you think about me.

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But just remember, when it hits the fan, brother, whether it's next year, 10

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years, 20 years from now, you'll never

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be able to say that these brothers ain't liars. Ain't liar. Mike Shaq 1, 2, 12 Mike Shack 1, 2, 1, 2 Shout out the real all over the world Shout out to the nine to fivers entrepreneurs Everybody on vacation everybody getting money Everybody working hard out there we here though respect

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this here check I'm from where the hammers rung News cameras never come when your man's hunger never verse in your rhyme with the grams with slums Spanish Every summer we took the work in the can and run with a plan was to get funded Stay up the set to achieve this goal quicker so all my weight wet Faced with immeasurable odds still I gave straight bets Someone felt the most something that you nothing check I'm from the other side where

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other guys don't walk too much the

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girls in the projects weren't us then we talk too much so they ran up the topic and sort them boosters

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shout out to the women of the

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night out there just like us I'm from where the beef is inevitable Summertimes unforgettable boosters in abundance Buy half price

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sweat at new I mean the boost

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is the scammers and all that it's

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true out there couldn't talk about it

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if you ain't living I'm from with

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niggas pull your card and argue all day about who's the best MCs Biggie J, S y bars at each other's throats for the love of foreign cars Catch catch cases hoping to charge R&Rs but most times find they self locked up behind bars that all I'm from where they ball and three rhyme stars I'm from Marcy son just thought I remind y' all where I'm from. Marcy, son, ain't that many ways.

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Yeah.

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I mean, let's keep this applause going for the best crew on earth. Let me get these drops out the way. New Joe Biden. Who is that?

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And E. Money, Manny.

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Whatever.

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Whatever.

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This major, major change his name. Imani is on the main. We here. What episode is this?

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934.

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Welcome to episode 9344 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a

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few by Powered By Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang.

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You. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button. Man, what a.

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What a show lined up for you guys today. I'm excited. I'm excited. To my right, man, none other than E Major himself.

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All eyes, big A, E, O, E vibes.

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Imani is in the building. Make some noise for Imani. Make him feel right at home. Yes, sir. Next to him, our good Brother Philly's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

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I'm doing great, man.

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Good. Absolutely love that.

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Next to him, man. Come on, man. Come on. When. When we see those tenants,

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it's gonna be like when ll in into deep.

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Went to the.

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You know what I mean? Had to go downstairs.

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Yo, this guy crazy.

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Put a. On the pool table. Love it.

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Learn.

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And then went to give out some turkeys in the hood. L. That was crazy. Anyway, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up himself. Big ish in the building. Ish. How you feeling, man?

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I'm great, sir.

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Yourself?

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I couldn't be better. Couldn't be better. Next to him. Come on, man. It ain't in the glove compartment today. Nice out. Nice out.

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Thighs out.

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Come on, man.

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Stop playing with him. Big ice on.

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Huh?

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Huh? Y' all thought Eric B. And Rakim was back.

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How you doing?

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Look at that go. Big rope change.

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Nice out.

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Ice out. Would have worked a little bit better,

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you know what I mean?

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Double entendre.

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Nice out. Ice out. Thighs out. All of it. Everything is out. Camouflage sale. He. Stop playing.

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Them joints is tough.

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They are dope. Actually, he did that too. And you did it.

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Yeah, yeah, with the ankle socks on. Still gave them a little flavor down there, you know what I mean? Salt and pepper on the beard. Studs in the air. Bedazzle on the shorts. Stop playing with him. Oh, bedazzle on the apple.

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Watch.

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Oh, you feeling freaky? Is it Friday? Oh, time to play. Feeling naughty tonight.

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Oh, man.

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Anyway. Oh, big freeze. Ice is in the building, man.

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How you doing?

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I'm good. Man, how y' all doing?

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Oh, man, Elmira's. Oh, look at your pants. Talk about rap today, man, you gonna swap with Ice. Yo, what's up with y' all today?

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It's a nice day.

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It's a good day, man.

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Well, it's a nice day job anyway.

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Elmira's finest big parks in the building. What's poppin?

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What's poppin?

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White poets in the building, in love. Corey is in the building still. Ericsson Erickson is in the back.

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Tanner and Savon are hereby. Ramon. Last, but certainly not least. Each and every one of you very important people out there are here. So glad y' all could be here with us today. Hopefully everybody is doing well. What's up?

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What's up with y'?

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All?

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What's poppin? What's poppin'?

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Hey, shit. How's everybody's weekend?

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My weekend.

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I'll tell y' all about it, okay? I'll tell y'.

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All.

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I don't see how people are dealing with Texas heat. Yo, I ain't built for it.

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Oh, shit. I forgot you.

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I got the out of Texas. Yo, Texas.

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I love.

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I love it in theory.

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Yo, the crazy shit you. This is early word.

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I know.

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I'm not built for that until August. Texas about to say.

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I am not. It's hot.

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It's different.

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It's hot.

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And bugs. Like, big different bugs, dude. Like, out here we got deer. You'll see a beer every now and again.

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One was in Elizabeth the other day. Running around the streets.

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Them big ass bugs.

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Yeah, that Texas heat. Nah, she in there putting deodorant under her tits.

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Like, it's just like, what are we doing here? Like, what are we doing?

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Yo, why are we.

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Get me to Jersey. That's how. You gotta take three showers a day. Every move you make, you gotta come

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back in the house and take a shower.

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No.

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Yo, no. How many boxer briefs do you think

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I'm running through in a day?

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Hell, no. But we had a good time. I'll tell you all about the graduation later, okay? All right. Yeah. And I can't wait.

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The graduation was outdoors, so you have an excuse.

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Oh, shit.

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What's y' all excuse for not showing up with me down in Philly?

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Man, I know, I know y' all left me hanging. I could. So I. I was at the assad of Shakur Memorial. That's true. Angela Davis and I did the thing in.

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So.

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That's amazing. But.

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That's amazing.

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But, yeah, you got it.

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Oh, no, I was looking at the. I Was looking at the watch and it was supposed to end at 6. And I was like, if it ends at 6:30, I'm still good. If it ends at 7, I'm still good. It ended at, like, 8.

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You might still could have pushed it.

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Might have. But if I could drive over to Philly and he's, like, playing. You know what I mean?

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Actually, let me. Let me slow that down. Because getting in and out of that bitch was not fucking plausible.

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That's where I would have been conflicted. Because the prayer hit heaven no matter where you at on earth. Like, you could be in the woods,

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wherever. As soon as you look up and do like this.

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Could have been the plaque.

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If you look up and do like this, it's gonna hit there.

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Yeah.

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Like a ball in the ocean.

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But it was. It was a great event. And I wish I could have made it down to Philly, but I. I still left tickets for y'.

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All.

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I appreciate that, by the way.

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I appreciate it. I appreciate you told me the time and then waiting on somebody to get ready. We weren't making it. You gotta pick him up by six.

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Oh.

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Oh, wait, Mark.

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Wait, Mark. Did you a solid, got the tickets, and you still ain't go second year in a row.

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Oh, wait.

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What?

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You was bad. Closest to me. You could have made it.

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I couldn't. Trust me. I couldn't.

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I get it, Ice. I get it.

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I could not make it.

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There's not a world where you could have just.

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You used to live out there.

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Why you couldn't make it? I didn't live in Philly. But why.

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Why couldn't you make it?

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I could not make it. We wasn't going to make it in time.

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That's all. Why you keep saying, well, how long

[C]

do it take you to get ready, French? I had two tickets, sir.

[A]

But how long do it take you to get ready?

[C]

It don't take me long to get ready.

[A]

So I don't understand.

[F]

You could have flown solo.

[D]

You ain't joke.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm.

[D]

He walking you down the.

[C]

I'm not playing with these.

[D]

I don't.

[E]

Long enough.

[D]

Five minutes. What took so long?

[C]

I'm not. I'm not new here.

[D]

Do not.

[A]

But you don't.

[E]

What I'm saying is.

[A]

I'm not trying to trick Ice. What I'm saying is you don't have no tricks in the stash to like. You don't tell your girl. Like, this is for work two hours ahead of time.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

The false time is the best.

[A]

Yeah, That's What I'm saying. Yeah, that's really what I'm saying.

[C]

No, no.

[F]

Yes, it is.

[H]

Still.

[E]

He said even with wait.

[D]

But the pickup time was 12 to 6, right?

[C]

And then we had.

[F]

I'm not gonna lie. I got to the pickup time about 5:45, so, like, I understand where he's coming from.

[D]

I was literally on stage and you texted me, and I was like, if I don't answer this text, he ain't gonna get these tickets. I felt bad, so I just snuck off to the side. I was like, how did. Six is late.

[B]

He called you the day of and still confirmed that he was gone?

[D]

Well, no, I texted them the location to pick up, and then I texted after you asked me ice, too, and was like, yo, hit the spot. Blah, blah, blah, blah. He was like, bet. So I assumed you was on.

[C]

I was.

[A]

If you leave me tickets, don't. Don't come in the party and say nothing about it. Just let me get my off.

[C]

It ain't to get off.

[A]

I ain't making this.

[C]

That's all.

[A]

All right, so come on, give it to me.

[E]

Somebody that was there. Somebody that was there.

[F]

I will say it was. It was at a different location, and it was like, in the. I don't want to say it was the boonies because it was right off of downtown, but you had to go, like, through the woods to get there. One way, streets, both ways. We eventually just parked the car and ditched it and got out and walked a mile to get to the show.

[G]

A mile?

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Maybe more. It was a troop. It was a true.

[G]

Nah.

[F]

Because it was people trying to pull moves. Mad little accidents happening because everyone's trying to pull moves. Like, all right, dog. Like, let me just pull over and get the up out of here.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Then you get to the line, and it's probably four or five hundred people trying to get through, like, two gates. I'm like, oh, it's about to. I want to see daylight soul. That's what I was trying to get

[G]

there early for my hill.

[F]

You wouldn't have been able to get. It doesn't matter. There was a. Like, there's bad shout out to the fans. There's mad JVP fans in the. In the line. It was love, but it was. It took us 40 minutes to get through the gate. Probably.

[A]

It was.

[D]

It was hectic before what I heard. It was much. Everything was much improved from last year. Once you got in, everything was smooth.

[F]

Once I got in, everything was cool. But the gates was a. I could

[A]

tell from looking at the stage that everything was different from last year.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And just the space.

[F]

The space was great. The space was great. Once you got in. It was spacious. We had VIP passes, so we had a nice little area. I do want to say that Philly pizza. I don't ever want to hear a conversation about Philly pizza because I probably had the worst pizza I ever had in my entire life.

[D]

At the location.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, see, that's the problem.

[F]

Yeah. I mean, festival food, I give a little bit of grace, but it was.

[D]

It was that bad.

[C]

The grace ain't even like the I

[F]

had in high school in the cafeteria.

[E]

Am I missing something? I never heard Philly names thrown into the pizza.

[F]

I just want to make sure that

[D]

we got decent pizza.

[F]

No, you don't.

[E]

That's why I've never heard Philly in the pizza discussion.

[A]

Because y have decent pizza.

[E]

Decent.

[D]

That's funny. Cuz living in Jersey, I find a pizza to be 10 times worse than Philly.

[E]

What?

[D]

Maybe I'm going to the wrong spot. But you know, where I live and around there, everything is trash.

[G]

Yeah, no, that's true.

[A]

Yeah. Jersey. Jersey is damn near the. They going to get sick of me out there with my bullshit. But Jersey is damn near the pizza capital of America.

[D]

They to everything capital.

[A]

All the Italians are here.

[D]

Not New York, not Connecticut, but New Jersey.

[A]

In New Jersey specifically. And there's a history behind it.

[D]

Send me a spot and I'll go connect it.

[F]

Connecticut and Jersey have valid claims to having very good pizza.

[D]

Yes, Connecticut is the best. And then there's New York.

[A]

Well, we only talking about over here. I abandoned all that New York pizza. We did this before. Once we get to Chicago and Detroit.

[D]

Well, that's. That's a whole different Detroit pizza.

[F]

It's good.

[A]

I'm out. Y' all can have this Detroit pizza.

[F]

That shit's good.

[A]

Detroit and Chicago. I don't really.

[E]

But anyway, anyway, come on, give it

[D]

to me outside of the pizza.

[F]

So, yeah, that was all great.

[C]

What was on when you got there?

[F]

We saw a little bit of the end of Jazzy Jeff, but we were starving, so we went to get the bad pizza. And then we saw Brandy a little bit. We had just seen Brandy, so I wasn't really, like, too invested. We kind of just half watched that.

[A]

Love that cross colors outfit.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I was so happy to see cross colors.

[F]

The set was. It sounded great from where we was at. But like I said, we was trying to get food. We're trying to get set up because there was a little VIP Area for the. For the HOVSET set, there's about an hour between. But people were setting up camp. I gotta say. Like, festivals in cities is a little bit tricky, too. Like, with all the logistics. Like, most festivals, people stay there and shit. And there's, like, a little bit more, like, etiquette. It was kind of like doggy dog out there a little bit. Which was a little bit annoying.

[D]

Yeah. If you'd be staking out. They claim they put ass blanket, and they don't want you to step on a blank. Like, it's HOV, right? There's 80,000 people here. Somebody's going to touch a blanket if you take it up 10ft or putting,

[F]

like, a drink on a chair and then leaving. And, like, that's your dibs.

[D]

And that's not your dibs.

[F]

Your dibs are done. But everyone packed up and lined up and waited for an hour and listened to the DJ play 90s hip hop for an hour. And then some house music, which was pretty dope. And then HOV comes out.

[E]

Out.

[F]

Nice little intro he does. When it's hot, it's hot. Kind of instrumental. There's some dialogue that was kind of inaudible from the crowd, at least from what I could hear. And then some little Hobie Baby accents and drums.

[A]

That was great.

[F]

And then he comes out to Hobie baby.

[E]

Wow.

[F]

I like that energy, boy. Energy. Way to come out n. That's a good way to come out. With some drums. With Quest Loves with the. He had the. My man with the big sousaphone rocking.

[G]

They had a tuba.

[F]

Tuba, tuba.

[E]

Goody.

[D]

That's my man.

[B]

What was the crowd reaction once they seen the fro?

[F]

I think everybody didn't know that was hoe for, like, the first couple minutes, because like I said, there's dialogue happening, and it was like, what's happening? And it was kind of dark, you know, it's like a blue light. And he's just standing there. People didn't really start wiling out. But then he goes to the freestyle.

[C]

So that's when y' all kind of realized, oh, that is hov right there.

[F]

Well, no, once he did a little bit of.

[A]

He's watching the clip.

[E]

That old silhouette.

[A]

Anybody know that was you, nigga?

[C]

Thought somebody about to just introduce him or something.

[E]

Yeah, he up there looking like Lady Rage.

[C]

Well, you know. Well, see, even that. Because, you know, they did the surprise show the night before.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

And he had the hoodie on.

[C]

Yeah, he had the hoodie on. So it was a whole thing. Like, did he cut his locks. Like, what was going on? So now the debut album.

[D]

I was salty when I found out about that surprise show. Was it the Fillmore the night before? Like, for 200 people here? Everybody made that.

[C]

Everybody that bought all of the JZ30 drops.

[F]

Oh, is that what it was? Okay, it was a rehearsal show, but so, yeah, he gets right into the. Gets right into the freestyle.

[A]

And of course, Parks, maybe before the freestyle even ended, had perfect audio, mixed and mastered audio of this freestyle while the whole Internet was listening to the Nokia Nextel phone recordings of this thing. Yeah, Parks never ceases to amaze me.

[F]

Do it right.

[A]

I don't know how he did it. It sound like he was on the stage. Oh, no.

[C]

He sound like he was plugged in.

[D]

He definitely plugged this into the board.

[E]

Nah, for real.

[A]

This is.

[E]

This is from the board.

[A]

This is from his secret mixer society that he's a part of.

[F]

I thought about hitting guru and asking for the stems, but I didn't want to be pushy, you know?

[D]

I mean, like, this was good enough.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

I was like, you know, this work.

[A]

All right, here we go. Listen to this.

[E]

Parks is a nutcase. Why is this so clear?

[H]

Patty's turning a hunted. If she would have transitioned. If I clear my name, I would have hunted them. Every one of them playing these silly games. They won 800.

[A]

How do y' all want to do this? Do y' all want to hear the whole thing? Do you want to pause?

[F]

No, we pause.

[D]

What?

[B]

We need to spot you guys to pause.

[D]

We'll glaze part by part.

[A]

All right, then I'm starting it up.

[E]

Ill way to start, though. Ill way, Ill way to start.

[H]

Patty turning a hunted. If she would have transitioned before I cleared my name, I would have hunted them. Every one of them playing these silly games that won 800. Amaland Chaser would have wish one came. But 911 is a joke. Public enemy number one. I've been ranked. The rock's not crumbling. The leprechaun to magically run out of pranks. Your son on a federal jail. I'm a little something about having too much in his drink. You know how dumb that is? Another one fumbled his wonder how I get the blame teeth is tumbling out their mouth and somehow I'm the one who done it. It's a murder mystery game.

[F]

So that's Buzz being Dame, right?

[A]

Yeah, it's a few Busby, Tory, Tory. No Tory to be Tory's dad and Dame.

[B]

Just a lot of ground.

[F]

A little eight bar stage.

[E]

Yeah, he got right to It.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

And I mean.

[A]

I mean, all of us knew that this was coming.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I told y'. All.

[C]

First stage, he get to everybody that

[A]

is familiar with how this goes, knew that the second he got a chance to go a cappella one the of of these places to tell you how he feels about some things that was gonna happen.

[F]

I was pretty surprised that he did it at Roots. I thought he would have did it. He might do it again over here, I'm sure.

[A]

I don't think he's finished.

[F]

Yeah, it might be.

[A]

I don't think he's done at all. I think this was. I'll say what I think, but let's get back to it. But how do we feel about this so far?

[B]

I like the aggression off the rip.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I like the aggression. To me, this sounded very urlish.

[F]

Oh, yeah. The rhyme style was.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[F]

Battle rap style.

[C]

I was like, damn, is that Lux or hov?

[A]

It's more URL than I'm used to hearing from him, but I don't mind it. And I don't know if it sounds that URL. Over a beat.

[C]

It's not meant to be over a beat.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't know.

[C]

But I'm saying, even when he did the other freestyles that never came out, like, the B sides freestyle, they didn't sound this urlish. That's the first thing just to stand out. I'm just like. Like, this sounds like a battle rap.

[A]

Well, I'm still under the belief that he's got music coming at some point.

[D]

Oh.

[F]

I mean, the hair to me, indicates that there's music coming.

[A]

So this is the first step in

[F]

the hov cuts his hair before the album drops.

[D]

I've been saying the whole time that he's not putting the album out and nothing's coming out. I talked to somebody last night who's pretty close to it, and they said without. They couldn't give me any more evidence than I asked for. But they said they're. It seems pretty certain now.

[A]

The hair thing is a great point. Yeah, the hair did it for me.

[D]

The hair did it for me. But then I heard somebody who's. Who's working on the album allegedly saying that it's coming out soon. So whatever that's worth.

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

I just think he's been way too visible.

[F]

That too.

[G]

Because he kind of is always incognito. He's done the interviews.

[B]

He.

[G]

You know what I'm saying?

[F]

Like, he's releasing old music. Yeah. And the hair again, back to the old hov thing. When he cuts the hair, the album's album is done.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

And not that he cut his hair. Well, I guess he did a little bit, you know, I'm sure he did half com out.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

Yeah, I've been right. The rock's not crumbling. The leprechauns have magically run out of pranks. Your son on a federal jail line about having too much in his drink. You know how dumb that is? Another one tumbled his Wonder how I get the blame teeth is tumbling out their mouth and somehow I'm the one who done it. It's a murder mystery game.

[E]

What I will say.

[A]

I thought that he heated up later into the verse.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I felt like it took me a little while to get used to the choppiness and this flow that he was doing.

[F]

I think. I mean, I think there's a couple things there. I think he hasn't rapped publicly in 10 years. I don't know how long it's been. It's been a fucking long time since hosting something new. Yeah, something new. So this is the, I guess, second thing. Cause he did Hobie Baby. That was just a verse. So I think it was a warm up. And I also think when you're shooting at Busby and you're shooting at Dame and you're shooting at Tory's dad, like I'm not gonna fucking get in my full rapper bag.

[D]

Yeah. He also hadn't rehearsed that delivery night.

[F]

Literally wrote that morning.

[D]

Yeah. As he says in the verse, it

[A]

does sound like a rather recent recent.

[F]

Oh, for sure.

[D]

Recent.

[A]

Sit down with a pen and paper recent. In terms of talking about recent.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

Like this morning or the other day.

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

There's too many syllables in some of the stand.

[C]

Like it was rough.

[G]

I think he gonna fine tune it. And I think when he get to

[A]

New York, I also think like he's an older man, Right. Like, how old is old? 59 almost.

[F]

Nah, 56, 57, something like that.

[B]

Mid-50s.

[A]

I think he's born because Puff was 55. They was around the same age.

[F]

56.

[C]

Yeah, 56.

[A]

This was the first time I'm hearing his. His. And I'm about to sound like just. But I pay attention to like this. I'm rapper.

[F]

This is the first thing. I think what you're about to say is the first thing I said to Gift and that my rapper group chat.

[A]

His breathing is different.

[D]

Yeah, it is.

[F]

But I think that comes from not rapping for so long. I think you would breathe different too if you. If you hadn't Rapped, sure, if you started rapping tomorrow.

[A]

And his breathing is still great because every clip I saw of the show, for him to do all of that up there is still the best, but it's noticeable.

[F]

Yeah, I can tell that he has. Hasn't rapped in a while. That's all. I think it's that simple.

[C]

I think that's rusty.

[F]

Yeah, that's all it is.

[C]

And that's normal.

[F]

And I mean, this is different because we're talking about acapella freestyle. But the other clips of the show, he's rapping with a band, which you've done before. It's a different thing. You got to compensate, different. The energy is different. You got to fight with the horn section blasting you, the live drums blasting in your ear, especially if you're gonna fuck up your shit a little bit.

[A]

But for me, as a rapper, outside of his amazing lyrical ability, that was always what made him, bar none. His breath control, his projection, the clarity and his voice, his enunciation was always elite level away from the. And it's still all there, but the breathing is just what it was.

[F]

It was a step behind. I will say that. And I will also say that I feel like he moved more up there than I've seen him move in previous concerts. Like, he was. I think he was excited to be there. I think he had fun. I think especially after getting this off, he was like, let's.

[B]

The breath might be from it being new material as well.

[D]

That's what I.

[F]

A little bit too.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Trying to pick your spots when. And know when to breathe. You can do what other records you've been doing for years, but some new shit.

[D]

Yeah, there's muscle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But even I'm not used to him having the bar of emphasis like, oh,

[E]

it's a murder mystery, Dave. And I'm not. I'm not. I've never seen that.

[F]

Yeah, it's a different podcast.

[E]

I've never seen him do that. I've never even heard that before.

[C]

I'm telling you, that sound like he sat down and got with.

[E]

Like, he really said that and stepped back.

[C]

Like, even when he did the teeth falling out, his teeth, it's all like, you know, he's performative.

[E]

He.

[C]

This is some battle rap. I agree.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

He was with somebody.

[D]

I think that's why they, like, something

[H]

happened too much in his drink. You know how dumb that is.

[E]

Another one tumbling.

[A]

I keep losing the spot, but it's fine.

[H]

His teeth is tumbling out their mouth. And somehow I'm the one who done it. It's a murder mystery game.

[F]

This is where he gets his off. Double, triple.

[A]

This is the. All of this is amazing right here. This is nuts.

[H]

There's way too much flak that comes from those planes. I'm killing them softly. What's understood don't need to be explained. You want it one way, it's the other.

[E]

I steal all these suckers I Marley

[H]

you niggas gang I ain't much for me it's no how. Cancel the brunches. I remember the hunger pain, the price of the bricks going up. It's gonna cost you a B to even say my name.

[E]

That whole Roberta Flack, Lauryn Hill, Fuji,

[F]

all that was no, you know, the wire references?

[E]

Wire?

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Three Riley references.

[A]

Yeah, three.

[F]

That was like a quadruple or something. I don't know.

[A]

Flack falling from a plane. The plane

[G]

killing me softly.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I love how a lot of just let that fly over their head. That's how I know. Don't know rap.

[A]

Yeah, Word.

[C]

Don't listen to rock.

[F]

Yeah. A lot of the criticism of the freestyle is like, oh, you guys don't, don't understand.

[D]

I literally had to argue with my brother yesterday. He was like, this didn't make sense. He wasn't saying that. I actually started explaining what the lines meant.

[F]

Yeah.

[D]

He was like, oh, that was good. Then he went back and listened.

[G]

Oh, again.

[C]

Oh, again. Oh, damn. Right?

[G]

Five in a row. Oh, damn.

[B]

That's not rolling with you with the URL.

[D]

That's the.

[A]

That's the old in me. I get mad now. I mean, for Kendrick, all of that breakdown of the cryptic shit be cool because he be cryptic. He be crypt. He'd be so cryptic, the people that read it, well, need. Need some help with some of that shit. Yeah. But typically when rappers did this, back

[E]

in my day, like, it was its own language.

[A]

And if you didn't understand, you just didn't understand and knew you catch it later.

[C]

Yeah. All right.

[E]

There was no. There was no tutorial on no Internet. Every single thing.

[A]

Even though. Thank you, Rob Markman. I had no idea what a flak from a plane was, but the way he said the line let me know that.

[E]

That.

[A]

Sorry, this is something. Something. Yeah. I could maybe give context to put this together, but. Man, you're going crazy now. Yeah, I thought it improved with every few stanzas. Yeah, like. Like it was a start off and then a heat up and then a takeoff.

[H]

You ever heard of a white kid? My children is summoned up. You Niggas, no shame. They're trying to get under Spanish. And I really get Undisputed as unharmed, player.

[A]

I love those lines. I could do without ever hearing Jay Z talk about stabbing un for the rest of my life.

[F]

Me, too.

[C]

Okay, same.

[B]

Yeah, I felt the same way.

[C]

But I.

[G]

But I. I still.

[E]

But I get the point.

[A]

And I. And I love the line.

[G]

I get the point.

[E]

I love the line.

[A]

And I love how he addressed that particular portion.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

Like, yo, dog.

[F]

But I also think that that's important for him to say that even though I agree with you, it's kind of like, I don't know, juvenile maybe to bring up that shit. It's not a shining light in Jay Z's history. But I think it's important for him to point out the difference between him and some of these other rappers who may be coming for him. Like, no, I was actually, like, doing some things.

[G]

No, right now, today. I'll go back to my kids. My. Yeah, I'll really take this microphone, throw that shit on the ground, and meet you in the middle. Like, yo. And I think that needs to be said in today's society because niggas don't get punched in their faces enough. Or you don't know that I'll even punch you in the face, cuz you playing with these other niggas. That's not that.

[F]

Also, people don't know the story in that, that we're talking about in this.

[G]

And now when they go research it, they'll say, oh, these kids born in

[F]

2002 don't know about.

[B]

It's not much that's going to make me revert back to that level of ignorance. The one thing that will is my kids.

[D]

And not for nothing, Ramen, Vonderkind and Under Skin Fire.

[A]

It's absolutely ridiculous.

[D]

You might as well talk about unless you get there.

[E]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I'm with it. I fucking.

[E]

Yeah. If you at the end of that stanza.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead and throw it in there.

[D]

You earned it.

[A]

But after. This is when I thought he was that whole. I need to see it shrink and brink and this whole.

[H]

Just go y' all thoughts with your thumbs again.

[A]

Oh, yeah, There you go. There you go.

[E]

You got him peeved now you got me.

[C]

I. I wasn't moved. I'm gonna keep it a buck with y' all until right here. Like, I was cool.

[G]

Nah, I think.

[C]

I think he. I'm speaking for me.

[G]

No, I feel you.

[C]

I was cool.

[G]

I just think that, yo, I am human and I don't say a lot, but y' all talking about my kids. Like, do y' all really have no shame, right? You start bringing kids and all that into the. It's a different ball game. And we never gonna be friends. I'm never gonna with you. Just FYI. Ain't no apologies. You ain't.

[A]

Go ahead, go to the crazy point.

[H]

You're no maniac. Watch out, sadiac in my presence, straight. I need a new therapist. This is not working. I'm truly on the brain. Y' all don't want me to think these thoughts that I think. That nut ass still stuttering that Chatty Patty down on his luck again. Quest introducing me to Jack.

[E]

Well, I don't know why I still with him.

[F]

Yo, that was great.

[C]

That was.

[E]

Yeah, he was up there having a blast.

[F]

He was.

[G]

You could tell it's some. Like, I missed it. Like, I feel like, oh, I love

[E]

this hip hop shot.

[D]

I missed this. Oh, yeah, you gotta.

[B]

But it's fire. How you can go from really giving some emotional to going right back to joking.

[G]

Sarcasm and jokes take you through a

[B]

bunch of different emotions, bro.

[G]

You don't hear Lux in it. Even the laughy. Yes, all of that. That sounds like Lux. The breaks, the pauses.

[B]

Play it again.

[G]

It sounds like Lux.

[C]

That's all I kept.

[G]

This is that whole last verse sounds like Luxury.

[A]

Lux.

[C]

The whole sound like Lux to me.

[A]

All right,

[C]

listen, I'm not saying he rude for him or nothing.

[G]

I'm not saying that.

[C]

But what I am saying is rappers get. I could see Hov getting with Lux.

[A]

Nah, let's just say we're too big,

[C]

so we not going to tell the truth. Got it.

[A]

Jay didn't call Lux ice.

[G]

I would agree with that. What I'm saying is, if you replay

[A]

that, I can tell you. We can guess that as a fan.

[G]

Oh, I can believe that.

[F]

He may have been inspired by Luxury.

[A]

Yeah. Now, he may have been inspired by Lux. And I can hear statistically.

[C]

And I'm going up here to do something I might talk to. I'm not saying give me some lines or nothing, but I might talk to a and just get some crusty as.

[G]

Or I could go watch him.

[D]

Or just go watch him.

[C]

Somewhere there's some Lux inspiration there. I don't care.

[D]

He could just be like, I'm not mad.

[E]

I'm not mad at the way your brain is working. I mean, I just.

[A]

I feel different, but I'm not mad the way your brain's going to her mind set up, nigga.

[E]

I'm just Saying, no, I wouldn't want

[B]

a battle rap inspiration. I just don't want to isolate it to one person. I think maybe battle rap inspired Lux, my man.

[A]

No, but Lux are the niggas. I'm trying to get money this month.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't take the Jay Z shit and turn it into the Lux. I'm on some just capitalist shit.

[C]

Press play.

[E]

So is it introducing me to Jack Boy?

[H]

I don't know why I still fuck with him.

[E]

They've been responding to HOV ever since all this.

[H]

Freestyle rehearsal.

[E]

I love that.

[A]

I love not doing the freestyle in the verse.

[F]

You can't hear.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get that for the first time on stage.

[H]

Pause that lady back on the stuff. She sound like she in love with her kid. Can't even take their kids enough of them. A rapper can't be my eye. I got MAGA Republicans. Them shots came from the very top of the government.

[G]

Yo, could somebody explain that?

[F]

Nicki Minaj.

[C]

Nicki.

[D]

Nicki Minaj.

[G]

No, I know that part, but it's

[A]

from a Nicki Minaj performance when. When she clearly was having a hard time and she was stuttering and she was stumbling and it sounded a mess. And he also mocked her.

[F]

He mimicked her performance while also saying that you can't.

[B]

Her.

[D]

Ken can't pick up the kids. Yeah. So it's Barbie Ken. Also. His name is Kenneth, but it's also Barbie and Ken because she's Barbie and

[A]

also her Ken and Ken.

[D]

Ken. Ken K I n because her brother Jelani's also in that situation.

[A]

So.

[D]

And none of them can pick up kids because of the alleged

[F]

genius bag.

[D]

He didn't say.

[B]

There's a lot of people that missed. How many shots was in that?

[D]

It was like three. I was three levels on that joint.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

Good luck with them. I'm governed by God. You try to break the covenant. I pray for 40 days my neck get flooded again. Wrist get flooded again.

[A]

Back to being God.

[C]

God.

[H]

My net worth went up again.

[A]

And they.

[C]

They, they did the math. 40 days from that is Yankee Stadium.

[A]

It's one of these fights. Rob. Shut up, Rob.

[H]

My next update.

[A]

And. And it's Lux birthday,

[H]

The chicken champ. You got to look up again. That's my favorite bar of the whole.

[F]

I think outside of the super quadruple entendre, that was my favorite bar.

[B]

Well deserved bar.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not the standout of the rhyme

[D]

for me, but it's a nice.

[C]

It's a loud enough message for me. Yeah, it's loud.

[G]

Enough.

[D]

You earned that.

[C]

Hey, we not playing. We not running the same race.

[D]

Stop.

[C]

Stop thinking we are in competition because we not.

[A]

Let's rewind it. Let's see what's going on.

[H]

Shots came from the very top of the government. Good luck with them. I'm governed by God. I pray for 40 days. My neck get flooded again. Risk get flooded again. My net worth went up again. My next update, the jig is up. Champ. You got to look up a kid. Look up the ho.

[F]

I never serious.

[E]

I love Champ.

[D]

It's always a sl.

[E]

It's always engaged.

[H]

To me, you is workers in perpetuity is how your contract is worded. Make me go.

[D]

Perpetuity is how your contract is worded Is crazy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

That was when I'm like, oh, okay, we here now.

[D]

Yeah. That's nasty.

[E]

Why does that have so much to

[A]

say about all of this stuff? I'm just trying to see if I should. He's almost done. Yeah, he's almost done. So. I mean, let him wrap it. Let him go.

[H]

The Brutes remember? Even when the trees betrayed love.

[E]

That's hard.

[A]

The Roots remember.

[G]

Oh, my God.

[H]

Don't forget who I am. Patty loves her shawies. S H A W N what a

[E]

way to tie this back.

[A]

Nah, he bodied that even begin he

[E]

body that the show ain't even. And here we go. Boy, that whole button.

[F]

God damn, that whole riser was rocking. I can't imagine what it was like down, cuz. We were like, a little bit above the main area.

[G]

Vip.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Big, big dog.

[F]

But that was shaking.

[B]

Doing the freestyle this early just said a lot to me, too.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Just setting the tone moving forward. Just the show. Let's set the tone off the rip. I hear what you talking about. I'm not playing with y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

Let's get this out the way, then we can move on to the show and do all the cute.

[D]

I love that. I loved it, too.

[A]

Yeah. Even his. His queue to the band. Hey, y' all ain't got to know what I'm doing. But when y' all hear this and I repeat it.

[E]

Hit it, hit it. The banger.

[F]

The banger.

[A]

Yeah. Turn on the. Well, just on some MC shit. The start of that and the end of that and all of the shit in the middle. How it was written. Wherever you feel like he was inspired from. He did that shit.

[B]

He did.

[A]

He did that shit. I'm conflicted. I don't know that I need it. I'm a little mad about it. Why I'm A little mad about it.

[F]

You don't want to hear Hovind Drake. Go ahead.

[E]

It.

[A]

I don't really want to hear him dis none of these, so. Well, now, I. I understand that this is who he has been his entire rap career.

[C]

That's what the problem is.

[A]

I never thought he should have been dissing me. No, I never thought he should have been dissing me. I never thought he should have dissed Deshawn Stevenson. I never thought he should have dissed Jim.

[E]

Like, he take up the fight with

[A]

just niggas where you like, yo, dawg,

[E]

what are we doing?

[A]

Which is cool throughout your career, but now you do the GQ interview with Frazier, you tell me we in a different place. Battling is not necessary. Yes, that's who I was. But, yeah, you give me the whole kid and caboodle.

[F]

Yeah, get that shit outta here.

[A]

I'm privileged to have been in very close proximity of you, so I know better than to hear this bullshit that you be saying about no battling. And then you turn right around and see I'm speaking as a whole fan, a music fan. If I'm gonna get a new verse from him, the mind that I know

[E]

does all of this. This lyric lyrical miracle, penmanship, craftsmanship shit.

[A]

I would like the time better spent if you in the verse telling me that, yo, my fight is with them up there. I'm not even looking at y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry about that. If you're telling me my fight is with them up there with the MAGA Republicans and the corporate officers.

[E]

Give me.

[A]

Give me that again. You've always done that.

[G]

No, not just that. People are critiquing him for that. No, I'm gonna come back down to the Essence and give you niggas some pow, pow.

[A]

See, I don't like that no more.

[F]

I like it.

[A]

I don't like that.

[G]

I'm also looking at this like, yo, this is a rollout. He got the Internet in a frenzy. My nigga, in an hour. This is part of my rollout. I don't have to do none of the other shit. I came, I saw it conquered. My album about to drop in a month, and niggas gonna go rush to the store to buy my shit based off of this. And I'm not sure what else I have to say.

[F]

I'm not sure there'll be more shots anywhere else. This might be it for all of them.

[D]

He might have felt like he cleared everybody. See, that's why when he said, y'

[G]

all got ho fucked up, Yeah, y' all niggas is bugging.

[D]

In the GQ interview when he said maybe the time for battling is over. I'm wondering, I was curious if y' all thought this like, that he's making a distinction between going in a full out battle but still saying, I'm still gonna get my. My jabs in and verse. I'm not gonna let y' all just play with my name and just.

[G]

It ain't a battle.

[D]

Yeah, I'm not gonna battle y', all, but I will say what I gotta say in this song.

[B]

He said beefing, right? Did he use the word battling?

[G]

And he said it went too far.

[A]

Listen. Got it. There is justification on all sides. There is no right or wrong wrong in it. Yeah, there's no right or wrong in it. I'm just speaking to the allure that he's always had. Like, don't, don't. Don't lose it. Yeah, what? Like don't lose it. Trying to keep it like.

[E]

Like, I. I would have loved.

[A]

I would have just loved to hear just.

[D]

Nah.

[A]

That him.

[B]

This is on par for what he does.

[A]

Tony Busby, Tory Lanez. Tory Lanez Dad Nikki, who clearly got some going on Mosquito.

[E]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I didn't. I didn't need to. I didn't need. He's more powerful, so you don't want to behold. I just don't wear hov is and who he is today and what he's accomplished. No, I think it's over for that.

[C]

I try to change, but that's just the top layer. You was who you was before you got here. He's still hov.

[A]

I hear you.

[C]

I'm still doing. This is still me. I heard all that y' all said. I was quiet.

[F]

Quiet.

[C]

I shut the up and my going too far. Yeah, y' all playing way too much between the. That Busby was doing the that old girl been saying. Oh yeah, I heard it.

[G]

And y' all are playing with my.

[C]

My family, my legacy. It ain't just me here.

[G]

And now I'm gonna say something to you. Don't be. Don't be putting me in no pedophilia ring. None. That is not funny, bro. That be affecting lives that talked about. Yo, if my grandmother mother would have. Wouldn't have passed away before this got clear. You affecting somebody life, bro. We look at this from the outside looking in and be like, oh, they that's what you signed up for? No, that's not what a signed up for. Yo, you talking about Kids got to go to school at 10, 11, and 12 years old hearing that their parents is pedophiles. That ain't cool. My I' ma address it. You say whatever the you want. I could be up there in the stars. I'm still a human being. I got flesh and blood. My. I'm addressing something.

[C]

You put that out. I'm sorry. He put that statement out saying how. How it affected his kids. Like, yo, we had to go sit down and have a conversation with the kids now.

[B]

But no, not just that. We also lean on always giving excuse of these don't care. Jay don't give a what these talking about. No, I care. I have a conscience. I'm a human too.

[G]

I may not.

[B]

I don't need to just sit here and allow y' all to keep saying on my name. And me having to just sit on a high horse sometimes. I'm getting that.

[C]

Or I may not talk to y'

[D]

all on your level.

[C]

Or I may not care my family once it starts at home.

[A]

But what did he answer?

[B]

There was no answer. It was a reply.

[F]

Even in the Drake diss. Go talk tough to them. Is saying, like, I'm not about to engage with you.

[E]

No, not at all.

[G]

Yeah, you mad at me in the issue.

[C]

It's not even this. That. Cause Drake is celebrating. Yo, we broke ho's record for this, that, and the third. And he's like, yo, let me just remind you, I'm not running that race yet.

[E]

Salute.

[C]

Congratulations, you doing that over there. But the shit that I'm doing, that

[A]

is where my fucking problem lies.

[C]

So sometimes you gotta tell a nigga, though, you do it. You do it all the time. When you talk to the other podcasters, yo, I'm not playing the same games as y'.

[G]

All.

[C]

And sometimes you just letting niggas know what you think. You think we running the same shit. You think we're in competition? I'm letting you know we're not.

[D]

And I think the other piece of it is, I don't think this is not out of step with what he always does. I just think it's more buildup. Cause he hasn't rapped in his life. So, you know, when Drake is saying, you know, I used to, you know, I used to want to be a Rockefeller. And I looked up to Jay. He comes back with Summer 16 and responds, you know, he always did that when some shit happened. When they used to say he was a devil worshiper when he makes freemason. Like, he always responded to shit piece by shoes.

[A]

It's true.

[D]

But now it's just. It's been 10 years of not rapping. So now he kind of cleared everybody at one time. So it looks like he's doing more. To me, it looks like he's doing more responding, but it's the same.

[B]

I was with you at first when you said. Based off of the GQ interview.

[A]

Because when we.

[B]

When it first dropped, I remember none

[A]

of us believe that shit.

[B]

But I also want to sit in a space of. I remember when homegirl was just here and we lean into. I wanted to call it a hypocritical moment. And I think he's allowed to have that hypocritical moment. Like he said what he said in gq, and he turned around and said, you know what? Nah, fuck that. I should address some of this shit.

[D]

I don't think.

[A]

I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. My point about just allure and moving a certain way.

[E]

Way.

[A]

What y' all are saying musically, I guess he's always. He's always done that. I'm saying as a. My point is twofold musically. As a.

[E]

That don't give us no raps no more.

[A]

The very first new verse I want to hear from him is not to diss Tony Busby and Nicki Minaj and any of these people. What if he's giving you new raps?

[B]

What if he's about to give you new raps?

[E]

Well, then I'll.

[A]

Then I'll change my tune.

[G]

But.

[C]

But he's done this every time. He gave us a new rap when he wasn't active. What's free verse, verse, 3 Kings verse, every time.

[A]

Pop out my stance when music comes.

[G]

Let me ask you a question.

[E]

I'm talking about is somebody that just

[A]

was looking at a stream sitting on

[E]

the edge of his bed. What I was looking for in the music, it's not the one off you want now twofold.

[F]

When you get back in that studio, if you come out with some fucking deep dive business conversations. Yeah, you should do that in track, too. But the first one, we want to hear you rap about what the fuck's going on with. With you.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Joe got back in the studio that first.

[F]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

He lightened my.

[F]

That's what I'm saying.

[G]

Yo, let me ask you a question. If Jay Z don't know. Let me ask you a question.

[A]

Maybe I've changed.

[C]

No, you didn't.

[F]

I don't think you've changed.

[E]

Maybe I've changed.

[C]

The roots didn't change. You could pretend with the trees, whatever the.

[G]

He said if he don't. If he don't do the freestyle and he just comes out there and starts from right where the freestyle ended and does this whole dope ass performance, right? The Internet's not in a frenzy. That's number one. And number two is some people are saying, oh, you seen one Jay Z performance, you've seen them all. That freestyle is what separated his return to hip hop into our culture. Again, his show don't differ, Doge.

[A]

I've seen JC knew he was gonna do a freestyle. I don't want us to be circular. We knew he was gonna do a freestyle. We knew he was gonna diss niggas. That's just how I felt about the verse.

[E]

But back to the allure Ghost point.

[A]

Really quick. Quick fucking. Like when he did the GQ interview, one of the more powerful things to me that he said was, I'm Jay Z.

[E]

That's it.

[F]

He said that here, too.

[E]

There's nothing more to be said, period.

[C]

And then God did. But even every time he raps, he tells y', all, I'm Jay Z. I know.

[A]

Because he's self centered in a way. In a way,

[E]

he's a little self centered. It does always have to be about. And we could talk about that at another time. But even when he said that in

[A]

the GQ shit, I'm like, I don't

[F]

wanna hear no shy rapper.

[A]

That would be so powerful if you just said that, meant it, and left it with the weight that it carries. But I know you, so I know that there's something behind this. You're not gonna. You're not done hammering this point home about who you are. There's no way that you finish. There's a. There's a play and this verse, perfectly

[E]

crafted front and back to say, this

[A]

is who I am. I just think, yo, who you are is who you are already. You did it. Yo. You in a whole nother. You in a whole nother stratosphere.

[E]

You got these Drake fans saying, yo, don't reply to him. Like, wait, slow down.

[C]

I'm not talking to y'.

[E]

All.

[F]

There's a certain level of I want

[C]

y' all to say that, dog. I don't think I am in a whole nother stratosphere. If he get Drake, know what I'm saying?

[A]

And say, wrong. Wrong chart, champ.

[E]

That's how I feel about him.

[D]

Right. I get what you're saying, but he said it dismissively. I'm just, okay.

[F]

And there's a certain level of reality TV in good rap. I think that's what a lot of Iceman is. It's like the story of what Drake has been going through. The story of what HOV has been going through. I think this is important to do. I think it's boring when rappers don't do this.

[C]

On your return, especially, yes. We ain't heard from you on a verse in a long time.

[G]

My nigga Eddie Murphy said that before. He's like, yo, every comedian, it was so long for him to come back, he would have to address all of the shit.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

That's been going on. And he said he ain't feel like doing it.

[A]

Damn, they look like bullying to me.

[E]

That's his point. That's his point. He's a bully.

[C]

That's his point.

[D]

But, Joe, that's you in a nutshell.

[C]

Y' all can't fuck with me.

[D]

You said that to me before. Like, why do you go on YouTube and argue with these people, right? That sometimes you just need to be you and be away from it. Sometimes people need to be reminded. Thank you. Of some shit. And at this point, it's like, if I don't remind you as Jay Z of this shit, then they gonna keep going. They're gonna get more and more. You know, they gonna get more and more carried away. They'll get one more like Tony Busby, to me, is a different category. That's some life. That's some real life shit.

[F]

That's why you just started with that.

[D]

That's why you start.

[A]

That's why I'm kind of like. I'm saying what I'm saying. But I totally understand the flip side, because really, all of the points he hit were real life.

[G]

Real life.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Kanye, you talking about my kids. Tony Busby, you tried to. Tried to do some whole other dame. I see all that you doing. Nicki Minaj, you talking about my company, me, my family, my everything, my wife conspiracies.

[E]

So it really all is.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

Justifying.

[D]

This wasn't Rapper Beef, just Rapper Beef. This was real life. That was obviously.

[G]

And then the Drake wasn't Beef. It was yo, yo, my.

[F]

We're talking about two different things.

[C]

Chill out, bro.

[D]

Like, yo, you little man.

[F]

You.

[G]

You, my little.

[B]

I don't even think that's the poignant part of the rap.

[G]

Cool. The point is, I'm hov.

[B]

I'm asking y' all to let me be hov. I don't get involved in none Of y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

Shit, I'm over here chilling. But y' all keep bringing me up in some type of way. Let me remind y' all that I am HOV once again. I'm not mad at that. Sometimes niggas need a little slap inside their head.

[C]

And I don't take this as hypocritical either. From his GQ point, because what he was saying was, would the beef shit go too far? I think HOV is saying, I'm not. This ain't going nowhere.

[D]

I do.

[C]

I'm not letting this go nowhere. Because if I engage speech and I know I'm not going to where they just went.

[B]

Yeah, but you just said, go talk

[F]

tough to them is saying, I'm not about to battle you.

[B]

You just said in the rap, though. You did just say in the rap that the whole un right. So you will take it a level if I'm taking you at your word.

[C]

I'm talking about personal.

[A]

You said that about a. That's talking about your kids.

[C]

I'm with you. But that.

[D]

That is.

[C]

I'm letting niggas know.

[G]

Don't go there. It's not a rap beef.

[B]

Yeah, no, that's a real life life

[G]

situation, but it's not rap beef. Like, we're not taking it over there. I think one of the most poignant parts that is overlooking is yo y' all think that nigga's crazy, right? In our hoods where we.

[D]

I love that line.

[G]

It's a always running around. Yo, that crazy. He not crazy. When he get around other. That's crazy. He finds his sanity. Somehow. When you know a punch you in your face back, you could go bully all them.

[B]

No the ill response.

[G]

But when you get around a that shoot, too, you sane up real fast. My in all the ghettos across the

[B]

world response is him saying, y' all don't even want to see my actual thoughts. And how I would handle this in

[G]

a real way with this. He ain't crazy. Y' all call him crazy.

[D]

Watch out saying he.

[G]

When he get around me, he don't

[C]

act like that, bro. Watch how it's.

[D]

I love it.

[G]

That was how Saniacs maniac.

[A]

That was penmanship.

[F]

Top notch.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

This is one of the verses where when people say they didn't like it, it makes me not respect their opinion. Everybody's titled their opinion, but if you don't like this, it just makes me think you think you don't get it.

[G]

But I understand why.

[E]

I get it.

[G]

I understand why I've been getting so Much bubblegum hip hop that don't require no thought that. I get it. Like all this surface level.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

This saying that makes your mind go, oh, damn. Oh, oh, damn. It's different, bro. Like that Kendrick be making you think that new Drake. A lot of makes you think. And you got to decipher some of the. The rest of these rappers just saying some right on the surface.

[F]

Yeah.

[G]

With a dope beat and you just moving along. So when you hear some shit like this that's well thought out and well written, you'd be like, man is trash.

[F]

Especially on Tundras are not easy to get. You know what I'm saying? And there was a lot of references in there that are not easy to get. People don't even know who Roberta Flack is. They might not even know the Fugees are.

[D]

And these kids don't remember the Wire much for meetings know how and you don't know. And I actually thought the Wire reference was also going back to Kanye too.

[F]

Like, oh, yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean? So I'm like, there's just levels to that shit. I'm guessing on that one. I might be reaching, but, like, I

[G]

didn't know to suck.

[C]

I forgot the Marlo sucker. I forgot that, like, on the Internet.

[G]

Had to show me that. Like, I forgot that.

[C]

Like, that was.

[B]

I would never want to hear no nothing like this on a beat. This does not deserve a beat.

[E]

I think.

[G]

I think he cleans this up and it's.

[D]

I don't think it works. That's why when I first heard it, I was like, I love the bars. I don't like the delivery. And I. Because I didn't think about it in the battle rap context. I kept thinking, I can't hear this on no beat. Is he fucking up? Is he losing his. But then I realized that's what he was going for.

[C]

Cause think about Grammy family, the freestyle.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

The second half of that is most kings. When you hear it on the beat, it don't sound the same at all. Yeah, it takes away from it some of this shit. Leave it as is. Leave it a freestyle and we good.

[B]

We never see him rap this again.

[F]

In my mind, I don't think so.

[B]

I got this off. This was this moment.

[F]

Cool.

[B]

If I give you another freestyle, it's caught me some old other shit.

[A]

I do think more freestyles are coming.

[C]

I do too, maybe.

[E]

I think when he stopped himself with

[C]

that whole, I don't wanna go further,

[E]

there was a further to go. I wouldn't be shocked if there's a

[A]

brand new something at Yankee Stadium especially.

[C]

I think this is a mousetrap. Like I saw the Internet saying yo. Cause a lot of people believe that Drake has like a scary. I was four on the way very soon.

[A]

Stop, man. Hold up.

[C]

I'm just so. I saw people saying it like HOV kind of fell for it because he did some on the album. You go. Drake is about to go. But I think it's the other way around. I think. Yeah, please do. Because I'm coming back.

[D]

I don't think we're gonna see it.

[C]

I don't want to see it.

[A]

This is exactly my point about why I didn't want to hear. I'm just on these.

[C]

Why?

[A]

Because you don't want them to open up with you.

[F]

Are you the dealing with the stands? Stands. I'm with you. Like now we got to do this

[C]

all over the stands.

[D]

I can't deal with the stands.

[A]

No, it's just.

[C]

You don't want to hear nobody respond to this.

[B]

Who should Drake.

[C]

Drake's doing a thousand percent yes.

[A]

The. He should early in. Well, go ahead.

[G]

Why should he?

[C]

Because I truly believe. I get. I hear what HOV is saying. Yo. We running a different race. But my. I used to look up to you and now you are not that no more to me.

[B]

You said that already.

[D]

You said that and.

[C]

And now. But now you've addressed me. I absolutely.

[G]

I responded to you.

[E]

Cool.

[C]

And now I'm going to.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

A conversation is responding going.

[D]

Drake certainly has a right to respond. The question is.

[C]

Woody.

[D]

I don't think. I don't think Drake does she not any serious. Let me take that back a bar or two. What I'm saying is I don't think he's gonna make like a song. I don't think it's gonna be a diss record. I think. I think it's gonna be a diss record.

[C]

But it'll be some of this coded shit like. Like he go blow the dust off your plaque. Some like that. It'll be some of that.

[D]

I agree with that. And I don't think. And then not. But I don't think that leads to a big time back and forth.

[H]

No, no, no.

[D]

I'm not saying that's what I don't want to see.

[B]

I think that would be Drake falling for the trap again.

[C]

I just said. Yeah, I think the way they were. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's really going to be him falling for the trap.

[G]

Does himself a huge disservice if he Tries to go toe to toe with Jay Z right now. You just climbed out the biggest hole you've ever been in your fucking existence.

[C]

You.

[G]

I just came from D.C. they was playing that Drake shit every fucking where. Back to back to back.

[C]

That's more the reason to do it.

[D]

No, it's not.

[C]

You crazy.

[D]

It's not.

[B]

Ignore it.

[C]

I just came out the biggest hole that I've ever been in. Y' all all wrote me off as dead and I'm back on top. And now y' all sitting this nigga over here. Guess what? Yeah, back. But what would that do to a person's ego when all y' all wrote me off and thought I was dead and I'm back here again. What would it do to this ego? If we speaking of ego, what would

[G]

that do to your ego?

[C]

I think your music is.

[G]

I don't think it depends on what

[D]

you learned or not.

[G]

Slowdowns my it's only been a month. Your ego ain't even fully recovered yet. Is you talking about you just got off ICU with the machines connected to you? Breathe first.

[C]

I'm breathing before you go get in

[G]

a ring with this right here moment. Mike Tyson pre.

[A]

Y' all saying that.

[E]

But he already shot at the.

[A]

A bunch of times on his album.

[G]

He tapped at him. He didn't.

[A]

Bro.

[G]

It's different.

[D]

That's what I'm. I don't. I think what he did was enough.

[E]

I think you believe the jig is up. Up.

[C]

I think he believes I want that now.

[G]

Shot.

[F]

It was a small shot.

[G]

Very small shot. It ain't.

[A]

No.

[C]

That's the point of, like, if I'm. If I pop it off, I'm going to throw off a shot.

[B]

You got to be pretty high just to throw the shot, period.

[C]

And I'm expecting something.

[G]

He's done that before. But I don't think you want to go in the ring with Jay Z.

[C]

I just don't think. I don't think. When I say. When we say in the ring, I

[G]

think would do himself a huge.

[E]

But wait, what do going in the ring mean? HOV ain't. And now I'm about to sound like I'm on the other side. HOV is that an active mc. So what do it mean? Go in the ring with him?

[C]

Do we think HOV is going to drop a record? Drake drop a record? HOV drop a.

[H]

No.

[E]

Hell no.

[G]

That's what I'm saying.

[F]

You got HOV fucked up.

[D]

We not jabs here and there and that's it. No, I'M good with little jabs. I just don't want to see it escalate to anything else.

[C]

I don't think it's going to happen. That goes back to the fucking GQ shit. We not battling.

[D]

And that's why, like you, I don't think it was hypocritical. I think HOV is fine with the little jab.

[B]

You said we got HOV fucked up. You think he would do that?

[F]

I don't think he's going to go back and forth dropping MP3s on SoundCloud with Drake. Sorry. No, I'm saying it's not happening, dog.

[C]

Not at all.

[A]

Now it could be a long verse on the end of somebody's song that he wrote with intention.

[C]

That's coming. That's coming.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

That is 1,000%.

[A]

I don't want to see none of this shit's corny to me.

[D]

I just want more.

[E]

Oh, it's just corny to me.

[G]

I think it takes away.

[E]

I just did two years of beefing.

[G]

Yeah, I think it takes away from music. I think I had this conversation in D.C. i'm just like, yo, dawg, talk. We kind of see how needed a Drake, a Kanye or Jay Z is.

[F]

Yeah, are needed.

[G]

I'm just giving. But one of them should be out at all times.

[F]

Oh, I agree.

[D]

Because they keep drinking that.

[G]

They kind of keep hip hop floating. All these put out great projects in 2025, right? They came and they went. Every dope ass rap album. It was some dope ass rap albums, but they came and they went. You need one of those three niggas to be consistent floating hip hop because they albums and they projects last for a year, year and a half while other people release.

[B]

They Drake more than the other two.

[C]

Yeah,

[F]

I would put bully just came

[C]

out more than Kanye.

[G]

New Kanye, bro.

[C]

We talking right now.

[D]

My, it reminds me of your bum ass nicks. Like as much as I hate.

[A]

Yo, we will not take that disrespect this week.

[E]

We will not take this.

[D]

I'm giving you a compliment.

[A]

We'll change how you deliver a compliment

[E]

when it comes comes to the Knicks.

[D]

I'm a hater as best I can.

[A]

Not tonight.

[D]

My point is, although I hate the bum ass Knicks, basketball is better. You did it again. Basketball is better when the Knicks are are good.

[G]

One of the three. The Knicks, the Lakers, like, sure. Just the big market teams.

[D]

I'm just saying. And the Knicks are like Jay Z for me. It's like, it's just rap is better when Jay Z Is huh?

[C]

How did Knicks become Jay Z? I get. I get it.

[A]

I get it's like pardon for Dodo.

[F]

Nah, we playing for us.

[C]

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

[D]

Mark. Rap is better when Jay Z is relevant or some of the other big rappers are relevant. Similar to the Nick. That's all I'm saying. I'm excited when Jay Z's making music. I'm excited. And when I saw him on stage say I love this shit. That was like I do want to

[F]

quickly highlight the rest of the show was fantastic. I do want to show Guru. Yeah, I know, right? Guru Inquest and Hove and whoever else was in charge of putting the set list was together was amazing. I loved. He took like people in Paris and no church.

[E]

No church in the wild.

[F]

Is that how you normally call it?

[G]

How you normally says it?

[F]

And he put verses from Grammy family and different records on those to hold the spot where yay or whoever the feature was on the record. And Bilal came out to no church in the wild and killed it.

[B]

Jasmine came out.

[D]

Jasmine came out.

[F]

Jasmine came out to feeling it and did. I forgot what her record was but it was a really great set list. But the main thing I was there for was what you do in Philly and it did not disappoint. And the whole state prop being there, seeing, seeing beans out there was.

[G]

Looked happy.

[B]

Well not the whole state.

[C]

Not the whole people.

[F]

Well you're not all of them. You're right. Not the whole state.

[D]

They were minus 2.

[F]

Minus 2. Most of state props was there you go. And they showed the up like seeing PD up there was amazing. Freeway obviously that's when the stage really shook because you know everyone was still engaged during the set. But what once that came out that whole section and then closing with Meek Mill doing Dreams and Nightmares.

[D]

Chef's Kiss it can't get no better man.

[G]

That's fire.

[D]

I also just like seeing Hov and Meek together in the same space.

[A]

That's how I know I'm in the wrong hip hop. Cause dreams and nightmares got to wait. If what we do was in the building.

[F]

It did.

[A]

It came in after you said dreams of nightmares.

[F]

After dreams and nightmares closed out. Well okay so it was like an encore situation with.

[A]

With.

[F]

With me.

[B]

Oh no, let me get that before

[A]

we do if I'm. I'm just saying I. I know that's not the.

[E]

The census.

[F]

What we do is what closed the set. But then they did an encore and Rock Boys in the building tonight. He came out to that and then me came out and did Dreams of

[D]

Nightmares, which is the Philly.

[A]

Okay, maybe I'm not mad.

[D]

And that's the Philly National.

[G]

In Philly, you got to go that way.

[A]

I'm that ma.

[D]

We play that in elementary schools.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

In the morning.

[D]

Right. Right after prayer. Right? Yeah.

[A]

It has any HOV participation in any of this Drake shit is gonna make a Drake HOV conversation. Like, be a real thing. I don't feel like he really addressed any of the people that are really angry. At least we don't know why they're angry. Like, it's too many people that are angry. We don't know why. Nobody's angry. He just coming out with the fucking AK and shooting anybody. Like, early in his career, you could tell that it bothered him to be like, he was fighting the ghost of Big.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like.

[A]

And you could tell that that really irked him. Cause he was the best. And what are you gonna do now? Then he got past that, and then he moved to executive and streaming.

[E]

A different level of greatness. It would be like Wilt Chamberlain coming back and trying to insert himself in today's game.

[F]

No, don't do that. That's 50 years.

[B]

Can I ask you a question?

[A]

It would be like Michael Jordan coming back. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm just somebody that's greater than.

[E]

Look, I gotta deal with Drake fans thinking that.

[D]

I get what you're saying.

[E]

There's a conversation here.

[C]

Joe, to your point, you said it'd be like Michael Jordan. You and I are in agreeance that Bron is over Jordan. So there it is. Still a conversation. Whether you want to say it for HOV or not.

[E]

Not.

[C]

There are a lot of people that got Drake over Jay.

[B]

That's true.

[C]

And there's a lot of people that got Brian over Mike.

[E]

And no beef.

[D]

And I hate both.

[E]

Kudos. Kudos to. Like. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. I'm not shaming nobody, but nothing.

[G]

But he's the best in his era. The same way some people have Brom being the best in that era. It's not a bad, flawed point. If you never saw what Jay Z was outside, you could easily say, yo, Drake is the best.

[D]

But that's why I'm not gonna argue with that.

[B]

The conversation that's happening now, when you have these moments or people are trying to now say, Jay was never that at any point in his career. So now you have these conversations.

[F]

We don't have to address these people.

[B]

I'm just saying, if you Want to start reminding people? A part of the reminder is let me remind you that at a certain point, yeah, I am that guy. I've been that guy. But you have people today saying that Jay was never the number one guy at any point.

[C]

Cause they just looking at his career

[D]

and that's like saying Michael Jordan played plumbers. At some point you gotta accept people don't understand it. The great scholar John Henry Clark said, I debate my equals. All others I teach. Right. Sometimes you make yourself seem like somebody is your equivalent just by engaging them. And that's what I think, Jason.

[E]

That's all I'm saying. That is all I'm saying about this. You on a little role.

[A]

You do. Actually, you know what we do have? Let me make the proper formal announcement. We do have a new Potter of the month.

[D]

We do.

[A]

The votes are in.

[B]

Salute. Ice.

[E]

It came down to myself. Big Freeze.

[F]

Freeziest.

[D]

The freeziest.

[A]

And our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. And it looks like Mark Lamont Hill

[E]

is the Potter of the month. I won. He won.

[A]

Oh, Now I noticed Ish is not wearing the chain for us to give them.

[C]

Are you supposed to wear the chain off and give it to the next chain?

[F]

You gotta chain the next man chaining them.

[A]

You still think I got more pride than you?

[C]

What does this guy do with pride?

[G]

I don't even know where to chain at.

[C]

I leave it in the closet when I leave.

[A]

That's a closet. Okay. But when you come in, why you ain't get it and put it around?

[E]

Mark.

[A]

Mark took you to the six again.

[E]

He gave you a foot doctor.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Don't do that.

[A]

He did.

[E]

He saved your whole Achilles. You can't even put the chain on my man after he went. And he can't get this win without you. Yeah.

[F]

It's a fact.

[E]

If he didn't have erectile dysfunction and you saved the day with the Pepsi leader of Totos, whatever the you had. Yeah. He can't win this award without that bum ass story. This was all arguably Mark's worst month

[A]

working here at the jbp. Wow. Or at least maybe second place to Ramadan.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

Mark was on the verge of getting fired. He left. He left early for our most important Iceman episode. He didn't show up for whatever the next episode was. He just started kicking up when Ish gave him the dick potion.

[D]

That sounds crazy.

[F]

Well, I mean, that's what it's.

[A]

That's what happened happened.

[F]

That's what it's for.

[E]

You wouldn't have won this award.

[A]

If Ish didn't rummage through his car

[D]

and get you the dick potion, I

[A]

just deal with what happened. But a win for you is a win for me. I'm happy for you. Let me suppress my hate.

[D]

That's your button for congratulations.

[A]

Let me suppress my hate.

[E]

Mark Lamont Hill, deservedly so won the

[A]

award is back in Philly.

[E]

Our former potter of the year. Our former potter of the year showing flashes of greatness, showing why he's him.

[F]

Huh?

[E]

Right? Oh, he did that without giving you his mom Donnie thoughts. He did that without dropping the Israel bomb with the Sixers losing.

[A]

Oh, what? Chad, that's horrible. That's horrible.

[E]

That's horrible.

[A]

I take it back.

[F]

I take it back.

[A]

I take it back.

[D]

Without saying Israel.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[E]

He did that with the Sixers getting swept.

[C]

Don't remind me about the.

[E]

He did that while he got married. He did that without a nanny, so he was taking care of his kid, like dropping them off, picking him up, all that crazy. He did that while speaking at churches all over America. He did that while at the Assad of Shakur before. Stop playing with Mark, man. He did that while with a limp dick at the Assad of Shakur. That is hilarious. Stop playing with him. He did that while talking to Torre about some.

[A]

Some.

[E]

Oh, that looked like the worst combo in the world. But anyway, he did. He won. He put on. I looked this morning. I'm like, God damn, this took off. Anyway, man, he's got his special award winning gray jeans on. Do we have a speaker speech?

[A]

Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill.

[D]

I just want to thank the people, man. I didn't even know I won the award. You know, I don't pay attention to awards. I don't pay attention to who wins these things. I didn't even know there was a race.

[F]

Is someone gonna change this guy?

[D]

You know, that's all that matters. Thank you, fans. I appreciate you. I love you. I'm gonna keep doing a good job regardless, but.

[E]

Yeah, it's chain your bro, man.

[A]

Word. Come on, man.

[D]

Can you chain me his.

[A]

He is so prideful.

[G]

Hey, yo, why y' all be on my dead.

[A]

It's a thing.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Yo, you gonna change

[A]

is the worst.

[E]

That's why you ain't getting that rent.

[A]

It's your attitude.

[C]

You.

[E]

You're not manifesting the energy. The law of attraction. Yeah, if you can't give, you can't receive.

[F]

Pause.

[E]

Yeah, pause. We're not pausing. We're not pausing. Let all the gay Out.

[A]

Anyway, congratulations.

[D]

Thank you, thank you, thank you to

[A]

our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont. Back where it belongs. Looking funny on you. Ain't even gleaming right.

[D]

Look like moist night now, chain conversations.

[A]

Oh, no, don't worry.

[D]

Oh, you shouldn't. It's a winners only conversation I wear.

[B]

Mine's the right way.

[E]

Did he ever get. He had the chain.

[D]

He never had a chain.

[B]

No. Never had the chain.

[C]

The chain is new.

[F]

The chain is.

[A]

Oh, it went from ish to me to Mark to Parks to ish to ish, back again.

[D]

Parks. January, February, March. So the four.

[A]

Four. So the four pillars.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. Look like the fans.

[E]

Sometimes the fans can get it.

[F]

Got it.

[D]

Right.

[E]

So the four people is keeping the lights on around here. Rest of these sleep in the passengers.

[A]

That's crazy.

[F]

I think I should have won this one, man.

[D]

I just had a good month. He had a great month.

[B]

Y' all do that last week where y' all pull out a great story and then try to reel it in home.

[E]

Strategic.

[D]

Yeah, that was strategic. I played the whole wedding just so I could get this chain.

[A]

Mark was so ass. This. Oh, my God.

[E]

Mark got, like, two of my chains.

[F]

That was a good story.

[E]

Yo, that's hate.

[D]

Yeah, I should have won.

[A]

Ish threw it right at the rim for him. He did. He did. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Joe, you two be working in tandem. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's cool. Congrats, nigga.

[E]

Anyway, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Price Pig.

[A]

Oh, we're keeping all right now. Cool. It's time to pay some bills. Found it.

[F]

This didn't even shine it up or nothing.

[A]

All right. Yeah. Now that is dusty fingerprints all on the chain.

[G]

You want me to put it back on?

[A]

That shit look bad.

[E]

It'll boom.

[D]

It looks great.

[C]

It'll glisten.

[E]

Oh,

[A]

no, it ain't going to go with this outfit.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

N. It ain't the outfit.

[C]

This nigga wearing it, bro.

[G]

Talk to him on something you ain't never get.

[A]

It's all right

[E]

now.

[D]

It's a good start. Good start to the month.

[A]

It's no better than that, though. I be letting him play with my name. My name is my name.

[E]

That's the thing that HOV is bringing back.

[A]

We gotta get niggas to stop playing on niggas names. You seen me do it with. With Holy tank tops, broke, no clothes, basketball shorts.

[D]

You seen it.

[A]

You seen it.

[E]

So you play now that we got an audience and all that, but don't play on my name, boy. Y' all don't play on my name like that no more before I get mad.

[G]

Stop saying y'.

[F]

All. It's y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

It's y' all for real.

[E]

Cause I get mad.

[A]

You was there. You seen it. You the beneficiary in the will.

[G]

What you seen

[E]

you the beneficiary in the will. I left you something. I left you a lot.

[G]

You ain't leave me nothing.

[E]

Right? Yeah, the roots remember when. Even when the trees forgot. Get.

[G]

Yo, watch this.

[E]

Don't worry about it.

[G]

What you see me do?

[E]

Prize picks.

[G]

Nah, nah. Prize picks can wait.

[C]

What you see me do?

[G]

You see me scroll up and down River Road in a construction truck. Things that you couldn't. Yo, stop, bro.

[C]

Stop my. And I did see you do it

[G]

with the holy tank tops and with the shorts.

[A]

I thought you was.

[D]

Whoa, whoa.

[G]

But Pump it up was a thing. But how you being a rapper was a thing. You being on mixtapes was a thing. It's groupies outside. The niggas ain't got to have paper to the stars.

[A]

All right? So could I not them or was you mad at me because I was him?

[G]

You could them and I never.

[E]

You mad when I. Cuz when I

[A]

kissed that girl, you was angry.

[E]

Cuz when I kissed that girl, when your other people came through for a little hookah for conversation, you was mad about it. So could I them or could I not? But we got a great ad coming up.

[G]

No, no, no.

[D]

We got a great.

[C]

I want to.

[G]

No, no, cuz that's what you seen

[E]

it when Pump it up was cold. You seen it when no records was played. You seen it in the movie music days. Stop playing with me, boy.

[G]

Talk to me and don't allow me to speak. I'mma let him speak. And then I want to go. I did see you on Pump It Up Was Cold, but as I said, when you talking in the groupie world, they don't give a if a still average 30. They care that he wore a jersey.

[E]

That's number one, right?

[A]

It's all.

[E]

All of this is hate or true.

[G]

Okay, cool.

[F]

Sometimes hate can be true.

[D]

What happened to the ad?

[G]

No, no. Secondly.

[E]

Sec.

[H]

He it.

[G]

Secondly never mad about any girls I was commenting on.

[E]

Why you even answering it? I know the truth.

[A]

Who you answering it to?

[G]

No, they don't know the truth.

[A]

Oh, so you got to tell them.

[G]

Yeah, yeah, they believe you.

[A]

That's pride.

[G]

No, it's not.

[E]

That's pride. Why you got to tell them? Let me Lie on. You

[C]

hit a.

[G]

You hit a.

[E]

You hit.

[G]

What you call that gas?

[E]

The roots. Remember? You ain't got to answer them. They don't know you. They wasn't there, nigga, they the leaves.

[A]

Yo, some.

[E]

Some people did it without nine. Well, nine without 900 minutes on the

[A]

phone, my G. Like, we can't get

[E]

mad at how it happened.

[G]

I know I don't trauma bond.

[A]

There we go.

[G]

I make them laugh.

[A]

There we go. Why you don't trauma bond?

[G]

I make them laugh.

[A]

Why you don't trauma bond?

[G]

I have trauma to bond with them over.

[E]

No, that's trauma bonding, but I can't get into it.

[A]

You know what I mean? You can. Them exotics.

[C]

I don't know what that is.

[A]

Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah, what's up? Yeah, let me do my ass, boy. Yeah, back down.

[D]

Do the thing.

[C]

I'm not. Not even close.

[E]

Yo, I'm ready.

[F]

Hey, what time is it?

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Wait, what legacies are on the line?

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The Knicks.

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Yo, hold up for a second, man. Pride speaks. Don't make me mad. Don't make me angry. The San Antonio spurs are 17 years old. Pipe it down. The San Antonio spurs have a bench that after Harper has Kendale Johnson, Luke Cormac, Harrison Barnes, and Bismack Bayou. This don't jump nothing.

[G]

6 Man of the year.

[A]

This awesome. Good film. He's great. Harper After Harper.

[G]

Not Harper.

[B]

No, Kendale.

[E]

Oh, the other year.

[A]

You talking about? I'm talking about this year. We don't want to hear that.

[B]

This year?

[D]

Yeah, this year.

[A]

Oh, He's a bum. Get him out of here. I don't give a. I don't give a.

[C]

Oh, he's a bum. Get him out of here.

[B]

He's fooled

[E]

Antonio Spur. Hey, fair point. The San Antonio spurs won 35 games last year, huh?

[F]

They won 60 something this year.

[E]

Awesome.

[G]

I'm so lost.

[E]

You going to have to show me

[A]

going from 35 wins to the NBA championship. Now don't get confused in my bravado.

[F]

It's going to be a good ass final.

[E]

If there is anybody out there that has

[A]

99% of my support, it's Victor Wembanyama.

[E]

Who he is on the court, off the court.

[A]

The passion that he shows for the game is like the antithesis of all the shit I was saying about Joker and some of them foreign niggas.

[E]

Like, he loves it.

[A]

He carries a chip on his shoulder. And I do think that he is going to dominate the league for many years to come. I'm so grateful that the Knicks get their shots shot while he's not a finished product.

[D]

Fair.

[E]

If he were playing against anybody else,

[A]

I would go get the women. Yana jersey. I'm not gonna hold you.

[E]

He's that, he's that great to me. His post game interviews, when they finally let him talk, first of all, how

[A]

he taught anything he said just sound interesting.

[D]

It's amazing.

[E]

And the shit that he say, he ain't PC. He's not backing down. He's with all the smoke. He don't care that they're inexperienced.

[A]

This is going to be great. And I'm just honored that we get this. This will be the most viewed NBA final by far. Yes, by far.

[E]

The league is happy. Listen, all you Thunder fans was on my ass when I said, hey, they still got to get there. Guess what? They got to get there.

[F]

Oh yeah, they can get there.

[E]

It's the same thing I told Jared Jack about the Pistons. It's the same thing I was saying about the Celtics. You got to get there first. Thunder couldn't do it. Wasn't nobody scared. No. Cam Wallace and Hope, the homeboy with the dreads, Williams.

[A]

Ain't nobody's scared of you. Move. Injured Thunder. I'm talking about different, different machine with J Dub and AJ Williams, who didn't play in that game. AJ Mitchell, who didn't play in that game that you said he played in. It was just a. That looked like him out there. He didn't play in that game?

[G]

No, he didn't play. But they had a him to play

[A]

and he didn't play nowhere. God damn it.

[E]

Anyway, listen. Tonight, Game one, San Antonio. I checked the other day while I was in Texas. Courtside seats, about 22 grand.

[D]

Ain't bad.

[F]

Making a flight.

[E]

I thought about it.

[D]

That ain't bad.

[C]

That ain't not bad at all.

[A]

It's not bad considering what tickets cost. If I wasn't such a Knicks fan,

[E]

I ain't to going. Ain't gonna lie.

[A]

I thought about scalping my shits. Scalping and scalping them for real.

[E]

What they. What they.

[C]

What they.

[E]

What it looked like they calling for out there.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Like, if it wasn't a Nick fan

[E]

thing to be in the building, I'd have got off these shit so fast.

[G]

That was your problem.

[D]

You better than me.

[G]

You ain't want Fat Joe to be like, see, I told you. Joe.

[C]

I mean, right?

[G]

Can't do it.

[A]

Like me, Yo, Fat Joe. The only time Fat Joe enters my Knicks fan brain is when he's seated directly in front of me. And I can't really, really see. Other than that, I don't think about Fat Joe. Man. I do appreciate Fat Joe and all the rest of the Nick fans that are traveling. It's fire.

[F]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not. I'm not gonna go to San Antonio, but I do expect to see Nick fans out there. And. And I thought about it. I'll be. I'll be at game three, which. Which is the most desired ticket right now, but that's until game four.

[C]

Four.

[A]

And I think game six. Because that's when you have the potential

[D]

to really win it. Game six. Oh, game six. Yeah. I think me is starting in game six. That ain't real. Four.

[F]

You think the Knicks are gonna sweep?

[D]

I think Nick's gonna lose.

[C]

I think what.

[D]

I think Nick's gonna lose.

[A]

Knicks and four.

[D]

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[A]

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[D]

McCain.

[F]

No, champagne. Champagne.

[A]

Champagne from the spurs. Who was a sixer that you guys cut?

[D]

He was a sixer for like a week.

[A]

Well, that's because you guys wanted to sign Mack McClung to participate in dunk contest, which was a big victory for us.

[D]

And we brought home our first dunk championship since Dr. J. Yeah.

[E]

Anyway, we got Julian Champagne, more than

[A]

10 points, Carl Anthony Towns for more than six. Field goals made, Mikhail Bridges for more than six and a half, rebounds and assists.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Devin Castle for more than four field goals made. That sound like a given.

[G]

No, that's.

[A]

This is. Got it. This is Vesel.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

For more than four field goals made. And Harper for more than three and a half field goals made.

[G]

Jersey.

[A]

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[D]

You.

[E]

You. I see 42 Doug talking about he got a hunted on his birds. Oh, beat me, me, text me. Hey, somebody know 42 Doug?

[A]

I'll DM him. All right.

[E]

Don't worry.

[D]

I ain't chasing me. Nobody down to bet 100? I ain't got 100 to bet. But you did take a thousand from me last time. You think you up about 6,000 on me.

[E]

You're good to make a bad wager.

[D]

I'm good to just.

[A]

You still think Maxi is better than Brunson?

[D]

I still think I want to bet $1,000 on this game.

[G]

He ain't say that.

[F]

Game or series.

[A]

Say Maxi is better than Brunson.

[D]

Series.

[A]

And you had that face when he said it.

[G]

You said Maxi button Brunson.

[D]

Why are we talking about Maxi? Let's talk about who's playing.

[E]

Pardon me.

[D]

He's trying to get out, yo.

[A]

He.

[F]

He did.

[D]

Yes, I said that. I'm not ducking it. I'm just saying he's trying to change the sub.

[B]

Still believe that today?

[A]

No, he knows better than that. Today

[D]

the 5th.

[A]

Yo, the world is about to learn about Jalen Brunson. I ain't going to nick y' all to death.

[D]

Playoff. Jaylen.

[A]

I ain't going to nick.

[E]

Y.

[A]

On a final stage against the Spurs, y' all are going to learn what Nick fans have learned about Jalen Brunson.

[C]

And I think they gonna learn game one.

[D]

So you got the Knicks winning the series?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

I do, too.

[D]

Does everybody got the Knicks in the series?

[F]

Knicks and six.

[A]

I do.

[B]

I do for sure.

[D]

So we gonna bet the thousand back?

[A]

We can. Yeah, we can do anything you want to do.

[D]

I'll bet the thousand back.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

How much you want to bet?

[B]

A thousand.

[D]

Thousand?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay.

[G]

Yo, did y' all see what happened with Shay?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What happened with Shay?

[F]

He plays a different game than Shay.

[D]

Can't shoot.

[F]

Oh, he could, huh?

[A]

Jay is 31 from three.

[F]

Oh, from deep.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

He's 31.

[G]

It don't take a lot of.

[D]

He's been killing with that mid range.

[A]

Jalen. That's awesome. They formed a wall and he was rendered helpless because he's 31 from 3.

[F]

I also think Brunson's just stronger. Brunson a lot of this shit to do.

[A]

Brunson has a post up game. Brunson shoots 38. Brunson shoots like y' all gonna learn.

[E]

I'm not even gonna do it. Y' all are gonna see for yourself.

[D]

I ain't say shit about Brunson. Brunson ain't gonna the issue for me. I, I, I don't think y' all gonna have an answer for Wimy if, if Wimy shows up the way I think he's going to show up. I think he's gonna be the difference maker.

[G]

My, my thing is gonna be the difference is one, all that penetration stops with him in the middle.

[A]

That's not true.

[D]

Rim protection wise.

[G]

Every team that they've played, I'm just. Let's just have a conversation you can have. Every team that they have played has modified their game with regards to going to the rim. We've seen Minnesota up. Julius Randle was scared of the paint. We seen everybody on OKC scared of the paint. With the exception of Caruso and injured Jalen Williams. He changes and alters the game.

[B]

What happens when you leave Towns out there?

[A]

Not for the Knicks.

[F]

At the top of the key.

[A]

Not for the Knicks. And I don't want to have this talk because I've seen the last eight Knick vs Spur games in which the series is fucking.

[G]

And my other point, which is the most poignant point.

[C]

Point.

[G]

And I think Atlanta showed something that nobody else had the intelligence to follow. Which is who the could Brunson D and whoever. He's D And I'm a pick and roll. I'm gonna leave him on the island.

[C]

I'm gonna get him.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie.

[F]

Dear Fox, I like Michael J.

[E]

Fox.

[A]

Thank you very much. Laker fan and Sixer fan. Thank you very much for your your takes. If your team is not in the finals, I'm cool on your sports takes. The Knicks are 4 and 3 against the spurs in their last seven games. They blew them out with Victor Wima last time they saw each other fucking. Nobody's won on the other team's home court. Jalen Brunson had 61 on these niggas not too long ago. Cat is going to pull him up on the inside. OG guards Wimby probably extreme. Extremely. Well, if you going by the stats of it, the other team's problems ain't the Knicks problem. The Thunder ain't the Knicks. Knicks. Y' all will learn. I'm not talking to no. I'm not talking to nobody that don't. Knicks in six.

[E]

Oh, four to an A. Nixon four to an eight.

[D]

Oh, till it ain't yes.

[E]

Nixon four to an A. It might be a gentleman sweep. Who knows?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

I just don't see a world where

[E]

I think the Knicks were smacking either

[A]

one of them teams that was coming out the West. That's how I feel. We're on a historic run. You've never seen nothing like it in your lifetime. I don't expect it to stop.

[F]

I think the Knicks come out rusty in game one, but I think they will.

[E]

Me too.

[A]

That's my thing. If they survive quarter one, you're saying

[D]

they're going to lose the game?

[F]

Yeah, I think they lose game one.

[E]

I know my dad was on it

[A]

like that too because of the Russ,

[D]

which is what I said last week.

[G]

I think it's versus game one.

[A]

It's over then.

[D]

Nothing that's not losing game one in San Antonio is not enough, cuz. You only have to take one in San Antonio to.

[G]

To even get a lot of be about Mentals, bro. If they lose game one, it's going to give San Antonio the confidence that we could really beat these niggas.

[A]

And we here, both teams could win on the other team's home court. Even though that hasn't happened yet.

[E]

Yet.

[A]

We will see. I can't keep listening to Lakers and Sixer fans while we in the finals. I waited too long for this. Enough of y'.

[G]

All.

[E]

Let's get right to it. Let's get right to it. All right.

[F]

So I don't even know how to properly introduce somebody.

[A]

Somebody somewhere put out the Daphne, Joy Puff and some dude tamp. I don't know which dude. Cause they did it with too many dudes. I've seen every DJ Vlad interview with the dudes talking about it.

[B]

That's his name.

[G]

One of your partners?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

He did say I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

You're not familiar with his work?

[D]

I'm.

[B]

I'm not familiar with Mr. Diggler, but

[D]

one of his colleagues.

[C]

Mr. Diggler.

[A]

Don't call it. I'm just saying Mr. Diggler, he did

[B]

speak about having this video in possession before. So I'm assuming that this is the Same guy, y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

I watched it. Well, first I seen the clips.

[F]

I seen the clips. I couldn't find the.

[E]

I seen the clips. I'm in Texas.

[A]

My girl see me glued to my phone, looking frustrated, like, what's wrong, baby?

[E]

I'm like. I'm trying to find the fucking shit.

[A]

These niggas are saying.

[E]

I'm trying to see the whole. I gotta get prepared for work. She find.

[A]

She find the shit in a matter of two seconds.

[F]

Yeah, just pull it up, put it on the big screen.

[E]

Now I'm watching.

[D]

Fell asleep now. Shit moving.

[E]

So I'm watching it. I ain't really. I ain't really thinking that. This is about to be the most hilarious shit in the world. World.

[F]

But until.

[A]

And then it started. And this was the most hilarious I've ever seen. In. In mind that there's such thing as knowing too much information. This is one of those things. So I'm watching homeboy. Homeboy Diggler Dude. What's his name?

[E]

Diggler Dude.

[F]

Sly.

[E]

Sly.

[A]

Let's call him Sly. Please. Please. Let's call him Sly. Sly going to work on dick happening, right? Big long dick ass. Dick ass.

[E]

The meat review has begun now. We at the meat review.

[G]

I didn't want to hear that in my headphones.

[A]

I'm telling you, this is a. We not pausing this episode for this segment.

[E]

We got to let it go.

[C]

Got to.

[F]

And stop doing this with your hands.

[D]

Yeah, please, please.

[E]

Listen, if y' all gonna be gay,

[C]

then y' all could do it. But I felt like, oh, no, you.

[A]

You.

[E]

The man got so long, dick ass. Now, I don't know about y', all, but I'm on record saying that huge dick scared the out of me. Hey, Joe. Them niggas. So she on the. So she on the. She talking about she taking like a champ.

[C]

Daphne.

[E]

She like, oh, oh. I'm screaming more than her. I'm like,

[F]

Whoa.

[E]

But he's smooth with it. He like. He just on some. And then this bitch had the nerve to say something like that. Uh. Go harder, man. I threw the phone. I almost ran. Go harder. What you wanna do? Kill you. So I thought that was gonna be

[A]

the only funny part.

[G]

Nope.

[A]

And then Puff get up and you see his arms and shit, but it's shiny like he got the baby. The baby oil on him. Listen.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I ain't mad at him.

[E]

Right.

[A]

I can't really.

[E]

I mean, I can't really share too much about my knowledge about these types of parties because they say it's illegal now.

[G]

You don't want to incriminate yourself.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[E]

So I can't really say, but looking at it, right, this is the move.

[B]

Looping yourself up to watch another.

[A]

His crazy.

[E]

Now that's crazy.

[A]

I don't know nothing about that.

[E]

World don't know nothing about that.

[A]

Yeah, that's wild.

[E]

But homeboy is lubed up, and he got the. He get up and he, like, covering

[A]

himself a little bit. And he walked by, and I was

[F]

like, oh, oh, is he puff like this?

[A]

Well, I thought, I thought the screen glitched. I thought my was buffering.

[D]

I mean, his was buffering.

[E]

His is buffering.

[C]

Something was out there.

[H]

Buff.

[E]

Buffing.

[G]

Oh, man.

[A]

And then my girl must have heard me say, oh. And I was like, I tried to shoot him some bail. I'm like, well, he probably just got a load off. He probably just finished. But nah,

[H]

we.

[A]

We rewound it. We re. We. We brought it back. And he somehow she got him to walk by slower this time. Women are good. And then it paused.

[D]

Oh, right, Tim.

[B]

Off the toe.

[C]

It paused.

[A]

Y' all saw this, right?

[F]

Yeah. Yes, unfortunately.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. You gotta free him.

[D]

He been through enough.

[A]

You gotta free him, yo. Oh, man. You gotta let him out.

[F]

It explains a lot.

[A]

Lot.

[F]

Napoleon complex and such.

[A]

It explains any crime.

[E]

If you.

[C]

I did it.

[E]

I spent the whole 12 hours putting different crimes in here.

[A]

All right, Come in, bank.

[E]

Hey, give it out right now. And you know that that's his. You be like, all right, I get it.

[C]

He's stressed, a little frustrated.

[E]

He going through it. He's having a hard time. Some bread, dog. His.

[F]

His shit never hit the back of nothing.

[C]

It changed. Take that, Take that.

[E]

It changed everything. Yo, I, I, I immediately started not so threatening. Nothing is threatening about this. Little. So then I'm like, yo, dawg, this nigga's stupid, yo. That kind of dick.

[D]

I don't like where the sentence is going.

[E]

You spent all that money on attorneys

[A]

and that was your dick?

[E]

Your dick was the defense.

[C]

Your honor.

[E]

Yo, I'm representing myself. Butt ass. Are you saying that I was a deviant with this? Are you saying that I was somehow aggressive like this? He balled this up in his fist. For real. He got the whacking it and his whole fist.

[D]

Oh, you saw his hand balls, too.

[E]

Yeah, that. I couldn't call him Puff no more. Oh, I couldn't call him Puff after this performance. Did he?

[F]

Dad. Daddy.

[E]

Yo, dog, all you had to do was defend yourself and show your dick.

[A]

Everybody would have understood what was going on.

[G]

Oh, man.

[A]

Oh, man, Joe, this crazy.

[D]

Oh, you wait for us to say something.

[G]

Never.

[E]

Y' all can say something now.

[D]

I got nothing.

[A]

I'm good.

[B]

That right there is not worth talking about.

[F]

That part. He don't got enough dick to talk about.

[B]

We keep that short.

[E]

Of course I'm hiring Big Dick to come in here and do this work. And he talking to him too.

[A]

Hey, I can give her everything in the world, but I can't give her that.

[E]

He said that I got the clip if y' all want to hear it.

[A]

No, no, no.

[E]

We played the clip. He said that.

[D]

We heard it.

[C]

Can't give her that.

[D]

That's wild.

[C]

That nigga was over there mesmerized.

[F]

Oh, damn.

[G]

Yo, the other said. One of the other that was on Vlad said that the said, yo, dog, if. If God gave me that, I wouldn't even wear pants. Stayed there.

[A]

Right?

[G]

And while you and I took a break, you actually showed me this video.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

So I was not prepared. The escort dude got the video in his phone, cuz Puff grabbed the wrong phone.

[G]

Not prepared because as we're watching and

[E]

it's got you and the girl, suddenly you see an oiled up diddy walk by the camera. Now, I knew for some reason I just thought the baby oil was for the other people. I didn't realize that he was baby. No, nigga, the baby oil. What you want the little dick nigga to do in the background? Why do you even need oil for that? You got this mandigo ass dick, 17 inch long stroking shorty nigga. He over there making himself himself a swan in the baby. Or he better make himself interesting. He doing all types of backstrokes. Yeah, do something to get her to look over here. She over there with the sparring the dick. You over there with a nub. Yeah. He should have been trying to make juggling baby oil balls and

[A]

play the rest of the. Oh, I'm sorry.

[F]

Failed as well.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, he stayed oiled up as well.

[E]

Stayed oiled up on God.

[A]

You gotta be make something glisten.

[E]

So that was something I wasn't prepared for. But then there was something else that

[G]

I was not prepared for. Yeah.

[E]

Oh, now, now I'm trying to say this in the. The most heterosexual way possible right now.

[A]

There's no way to do it. There's no way to do it, buddy.

[G]

But when you said that he wasn't well endowed, I was not prepared for

[E]

what I saw in this video.

[G]

Yeah, he's a. He's a smaller guy.

[A]

Well, I mean, I don't I don't know how to put it, but.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, he just.

[D]

He's not.

[C]

Not that large in that area.

[G]

You know what I'm saying?

[F]

That sucks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Damn.

[E]

You know, well, as someone who is in the adult industry and guys in the industry always measure themselves, and that's

[D]

used as a marketing ploy and everything else like that.

[E]

How big do you think Diddy is?

[A]

I'm glad took a deal.

[C]

I mean, I wasn't to look as

[G]

much as possible, but it's hard not to see it. But I would say maybe a couple inches. Maybe three. I don't know. Three inches? Yeah, it's three. Yeah, that's from what I seen.

[E]

You got a big click.

[D]

Right?

[C]

Because when you see the video.

[E]

No, I saw.

[G]

I saw.

[E]

Saw the video. And yeah, as he's pleasuring. I'm not judging him either, but.

[A]

But you know, in this video.

[E]

In this video, he's pleasuring himself and all you can see is his hands. You can't see that.

[A]

That's enough of that, man.

[C]

Yo, just a oily hand.

[F]

All hand.

[A]

All hand.

[F]

No meat.

[B]

I mean, we shouldn't. Meat shaming.

[C]

No, he was. Was.

[D]

That's.

[B]

He can get to pick what he was born with. That's what he had to work with.

[F]

That's true.

[A]

I'm me. I'm. I'm not. I'm lawyer shaming.

[E]

He should be out there. He ain't as menacing as they. As they described him.

[B]

You could be menacing.

[E]

No, you can't. No, you can't be. I'm not talking the abuse aside because

[A]

he didn't go to jail for the abuse. I'm not talking about the abuse. That's horrible.

[E]

There's nothing to joke about with the abuse.

[A]

I'm talking about all of the sexual escorts across state lines and you buying them gifts and yada, yada.

[E]

Yes, he's buying them gifts.

[C]

They weren't pleased.

[A]

Oh, my God. Jesus. Anyway, let me find that. What Daphne Joy had to say because she came out after she created a brand new Only fans page, Fresh Only Fans about a month old or some shit. Daphne came out with a statement. Yep. Let's see the statement. All right, here we go. Daphne said. And listen, I'll be careful with it. This is a mom. That's the part that's whack. That's the part that's whack.

[F]

It's revenge porn.

[A]

This is a parent. That is revenge porn. How did this get out like this? There's legal matters, I'm sure, taking place behind all that is. But, yeah, yeah, I'm extremely. Nothing about that is funny, but Daphne Joy says everybody plays the fool sometime. And I've been the biggest fool. I just wanted my man at the time to be happy and satisfied. I wanted to fulfill all his desires, even if that meant breaking my own boundaries. I deeply loved him, and I believed he loved me, too. It's still so painful for me. It's still so painful for me to process the harsh reality and truth of that relationship. But as time passes and in my quiet moments, I realized that it was far from love. Aw. The recent leak was a tape I never consented to being filmed on. See, that's where I gotta stop you, Daphne Joy. I watched this shit. The nigga walked all around the crib with the phone.

[F]

Was a horrible cameraman, too.

[A]

Yeah, he wasn't the best camera. You were staring in the phone. He's no po. You was staring in the phone while you was talking? Talking about, oh, who dick is this? Who dick is this? Which ain't a tough question if it's

[E]

just one dick hitting the room. I don't even. That was. That was pretty bold of you to ask, who's dick? But she was looking dead in the camera.

[B]

Yeah, come on down.

[E]

Don't tell me now that you didn't know he was recording and you about to paint this out to be if. Let's listen. If what was going on in that video was abuse, this nigga was the kindest abuser. He was putting pillows behind her back. He was feeding the charcuterie. All the things you expect a little dick nigga to do in that situation. He did it. He was putting lotion on him, playing the music. He lit some candles. He lit an incense. He had the aux cord. Yes. Lil dick nigga. Play some Jodeci. Hey, put silk on Play. Do something. What else you gonna do?

[C]

A lot of comfort.

[B]

It's a lot of laughing. A lot of joking during it.

[C]

Yeah, a lot of comfort.

[B]

Hard to say. You ain't consent.

[E]

No. He was giving her a massage. He was encouraging the dude like, hey,

[F]

you doing it, nigga.

[E]

Hey, shut up, little dick nigga. I don't need your fucking help, dude.

[C]

That shit I can't do.

[E]

I've been hung like a tree my whole life. Here you come talking about you're doing it. I am doing it. No. Why? Cause you ain't your little dick mother. He even poured the oil on him.

[A]

Oh, yo, we can't call this none of his names.

[E]

Puff Love. We gotta.

[A]

There's new Information that's been brought to discovery.

[D]

Go back to Daphne.

[A]

Oh, back to Daphne. I'm sorry. Holy.

[F]

And it's horrible. I mean, she didn't consent to the video being released at all.

[D]

Revenge taking, taking somebody without consent.

[C]

Awful.

[D]

Threatening somebody, blackmailing them with sex tapes is awful and inexcusable and indefensible. Agreed.

[F]

Do we know who did it?

[B]

I believe allegedly.

[A]

No, we don't. No, we don't. We don't. We don't know. Daphne. Continues. The recent leak was a tape I never consented to being filmed on. I was blackmailed by the person in the video and was threatened that if I didn't give him the lump sum of money, that they would leak it on the way. I almost gave in to this demand. And once I didn't, this person eventually sold the tape to a giant media outlet. The media outlet called me one day and said they had the tape and asked if I'd had any comment before the release. It was the first time I ever fainted in my life. Once the media company understood the tape they purchased was revenge porn and an extortion scheme, they backed off from broadcasting it. Okay, I know they are probably reading this and I wanna say thank you for doing the right thing. Even though years later, it's come back to haunt me again. It took me all day to find the courage to rewatch my abuse. Having to watch this tape was triggering and painful because only I knew the inner turmoil and pressures I felt in those moments. That gotta be pressure. That nigga was huge. I was not and was never in my right mind throughout the entirety of that relationship. Seeing myself so lost is excruciating. And I just want to hold that girl in that room and get her out of there and tell her that wasn't love and she didn't need to do this for love. My heart is breaking as I'm typing this. I wish so many things were different, but I can't take back the hands of time. I can only continue to move forward and slowly learn to love and trust myself again. I want to love and protect myself so much that I'll never come across such a harmful environment again. This is the first time that I have ever felt a part of my own body and that my body belongs to me. I am precious. I am special. I am worthy. This I promise to hold true in my heart for the woman I am becoming and for the woman I once lost.

[F]

Prayers up to her. Man, that's fucked up.

[A]

Daphne, you are a. You are an absolute. Like, what the Fuck is going on here?

[D]

What did I miss?

[C]

See, I hate. I hate, hate the times we in now where we have to see this and we can't tell the truth. You just can't.

[D]

Why do we always say that?

[C]

We cannot. That's why.

[B]

Well, we can't tell the truth. We can't say what we think is.

[C]

We can't say what we think. Yes, that's it. We can't tell our true thoughts on it. Let me clear that up. We can't tell our truth also.

[F]

I mean, this sounds like a lawsuit's coming.

[B]

It should be a lawsuit.

[F]

It should be coming of her for sure.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Well, no, she should sue somebody 1,000%, 100%. But the whole sob story, the whole. I am a victim and I was abused and what we saw. And that wasn't me. You could talk to somebody else, school

[D]

me, just catch me up on this. So she's saying she was on the. On the. I get the revenge porn part. I think we all agree on that.

[F]

Yes.

[D]

She's saying that the tape. She's saying that the sex she engaged on that footage. I just saw the footage a few minutes ago.

[B]

Abuse.

[D]

That it was by mess. Is she saying it wasn't consensual or she's saying the relationship. Relationship was. I'm just trying to understand which.

[F]

It sounds like she was saying that she was heavily intoxicated during the whole relationship and manipulated.

[D]

Manipulated during the whole relationship. Not just that.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah. When I saw the footage didn't look like abuse to me, so I didn't understand that.

[G]

I don't. I don't want to infer intoxication.

[F]

She said she was out of her mind.

[C]

I wasn't myself or I wasn't.

[D]

That could be. I don't understand what she said.

[B]

It could be. It could be a form of abuse. If you start talking to the mental abuse and the manipulation that she might have felt she was. Went through just to get to.

[D]

But did she say that?

[G]

No.

[B]

Well, no, but we assuming at this point.

[D]

Okay. I'm just trying to understand what she. Okay, I get it now. I thought there was something I missed in the story that, that like. Like she said he abused me or he gave me. I just. Because I haven't. I haven't seen anything that. I'm not saying she wasn't abused.

[G]

I'm just saying she said something about abuse.

[E]

Right?

[D]

Yes, yes. But I'm saying the how and the what is what I'm not getting from the footage. I watched the footage and I read her Statement. And I'm just. I feel like something. Just some information I'm, like, getting. I'm just trying to understand she's consenting

[B]

to the act that's taking place in the video. I think the abuse she could be speaking to is the mental abuse that she's possibly went through to get her comfortable, to even get to that point.

[D]

And she's named Puff as the abuser.

[F]

She didn't specifically name that.

[D]

Okay, I can. Statement at least.

[G]

She implied that he never loved her. She thought she was in a real relationship with him. And she starts off by saying, basically, I was consenting to this for the nigga that I love, loved, and I thought he loved me back. And by the end of the writing, it said I wasn't in my right mind, which is.

[D]

But see, here's the thing again.

[G]

We can't talk.

[D]

I'll say what I think just based on whatever. And I saw the same information. I thought y' all had information I didn't have because it wasn't adding up to me. When I saw. Everybody plays the fool. Shout out the main ingredient. That usually means, like, I thought you loved me and you didn't. Like, you just said, if I in love with somebody and I think they're in love with me and I agree to do things under the premise that I'm in love with them. Cross your boundaries and they're in love. I do shit I never did before because I think you love me the same way. And then I found out you didn't. That's fucked up. But it's not abuse.

[C]

It's not abuse.

[D]

I mean, to me. Now, again, if there's something in the letter that we don't know, or if there's something she's not saying, that's different.

[A]

Yeah. Or if she actually physically abused her. Nobody knows levels. I'm only talking about. This letter was put out after this tape was released. So I'm only speaking about the tape and what these gentlemen have said in their Vlad interviews, which was, you know, they went through how Puff went about it. He called me to come explain to somebody that wasn't familiar with the lifestyle how it would go. This person seemed very intrigued. They had a lot of questions. And not to say that this is some of the same things we heard in court, but this person said, we did it about 25 times. And a lot of those times she was in charge. Yeah. Yes. Which makes sense now that you know his dick size.

[G]

Not even that. And again, I. I'm not making it. I'm not making it light of it, but when you start hearing her say yo, harder, stuff like that, it means like, yo, I'm to going consenting to this act.

[B]

Could the abuse part.

[D]

Not necessarily.

[B]

Could the abuse part be where if you've given someone a certain lifestyle and you're now threatening to take that lifestyle away if they don't continue.

[G]

It's a financial abuse.

[B]

It's a financial abuse.

[C]

She couldn't.

[G]

Let me tell you what happens in that. And that is possible in that there's another side. You still have the ability to say, these Benzes and these bags and this jewelry. I'm going to walk away.

[F]

You have a choice.

[D]

Yeah. If you're having sex. Just because I'm leading the sex or directing the sex scene harder or more.

[E]

Less.

[D]

That doesn't necessarily mean you could be intoxicated. You could. I mean, there's a lot of things that could put you in a situation where you're engaged in a sex act and being vocal and even aggressive. And it doesn't. That doesn't mean you weren't abused. I'm not saying she. Again, I don't see any evidence that she was intoxicated. So I'm not saying can we be

[A]

the abuse police later? Like, this is fun. Like, why are we sitting here trying to figure out.

[D]

Because she's saying it. I'm just trying to. I'm just saying again, this is what happened before. I'm agreeing with you all that I don't see abuse here. I just want to be responsible and say that just because someone's on videotape saying harder, faster, slower.

[E]

I agree with that.

[D]

I'm just saying that could be something else and we could take that back off the table. But I just wanted to lay that out. But yeah, I don't get it. It seemed to me the vague statement is a way of not having to address this thing and still be able to move forward with whatever she got, whatever the play is.

[F]

Which is fine, I think, by the way.

[D]

I'm not saying it's wrong. Yeah. Again, if somebody is blackmailing somebody is. What's the revenge porn, whatever you call it, revenge porn in you. Then you should get your justice.

[B]

Is it crazy to go through all this as a woman in this situation? Let's just say she went through all the horrible things.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But then still want to continue to kind of sexualize yourself and then put discounts on your onlyfans and then also play into certain jokes about the small penis side. These are things that she's doing after that. So it's kind of hard to kind of think that she's not.

[A]

That's why I don't feel like sitting here being the abuse police right now. We can be the abuse police release when it calls for it, but this is more. More in line of some of the shit I be talking about where again, we don't know about the. I'm only talking about this tape and what we see. Her response and her behavior during the release of this tape with the only fans 85% off dust side.

[D]

That might have been an honor. Puff's dick.

[A]

Oh, well, we ain't gonna know. Cause she was with homeboy hung like a log and she was with.

[E]

So I mean, she's just honoring dick.

[D]

I was in 85% off. That's funny.

[F]

I think it's more than 85.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm just saying now ain't the time that this.

[G]

Look.

[A]

She looks. She looks nuts. She. She looks nuts.

[B]

The one thing that stood out for me is you acknowledge everything else, but didn't acknowledge, like the one person who's going to be affected the most by this Kid.

[D]

Yeah, kid. That's what 50 said, right?

[B]

I mean, I don't even know what 50 say. But for you to go through all this and you went through the court shit, and now you going ahead, you taking advantage of the moment with the OnlyFans discount with all this other shit, replying to people saying the size really matter. At no point, even in your statement did you address the trauma that your kid might possibly have to go through with all this shit being public.

[D]

I see that different, but I mean,

[B]

that would be my main focus right now in the moment.

[D]

But then that would be cons.

[E]

Well,

[D]

if you're taking her perspective. Perspective, right. If you're. If you're. If you're. If you're making the argument that she's making, which is, I didn't do anything wrong. A lot of people are sex workers. A lot of people do only fans. You probably don't want to apologize for that, right? Because that's her line of work. And if she believes that that line of work is okay, then she's not going to apologize for that. To apologize for the other stuff. I'm just thinking from her strategy to apologize for the other stuff would be to concede that she wasn't the victim. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, if she's. I shouldn't have been there in the first place. If you're trying to make a.

[G]

That's what she said.

[A]

I Just want to talk about abuse when y' all not around.

[D]

This isn't about abuse.

[B]

We shooting bail.

[D]

I'm talking. I'm not shooting bail. I'm talking about. I'm talking about the lawsuit.

[C]

We're not shooting Bell.

[D]

Yeah, I think. I think you're hearing me wrong. I'm saying if her strategy is to make money on a lawsuit, she's not going to apologize to her kid for this. She's not gonna do anything to make it look like she. She was culpable.

[B]

Well, she don't have to be a victim in a situation to still be

[A]

able to win a lawsuit.

[B]

You releasing some shit on her is still without her consent. So whether she was a victim or not, the lawsuit is still valid, so you don't even have to do that. You playing in our face by trying to sit here and pretend that you were not consenting in a partner.

[A]

Yeah, you're a victim of revenge porn 100%, for sure.

[B]

And I think niggas who release tapes like that, y' all nasty niggas, and

[D]

y' all fuck it up for niggas

[B]

who like to tape shit and keep it to ourselves. So I don't want y' all to fuck it up and stop sending shit.

[D]

Don't let this up the game.

[A]

That's how you know this. Had too much baby oil on his hands. Picked up the wrong phone, was taping it, didn't delete it. Like, you in there just bugging with no dick.

[C]

Just whatever swipe up with the baby oil on you, how you gonna swipe up? You know what I'm saying? This slipping out his head. He can't get his. Come on, man.

[B]

And I don't believe this is the only tape.

[F]

Hell no.

[C]

Hell, no.

[B]

So that's to be said of her.

[G]

Of course.

[B]

Of anybody.

[A]

All of them.

[B]

A bunch of bunch.

[G]

All of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That was not a one off.

[D]

So if somebody comes to y' all with a threat like that, the revenge porn threat, what do you do?

[B]

I just sent out a dick pic hoping she leaked.

[D]

I don't care. That's a little different.

[A]

I'm just saying. I don't give you a reason. Right?

[E]

Come on. Somebody get mad enough at me. Get mad at me. Leak it out there. Go ahead.

[B]

No, I. I do think it's an invasion of privacy and you should handle it the proper way.

[D]

I was asking. I. I was actually not trying to serious it out. I was more saying, would you pay. Would you. Would you pay the money to.

[E]

Was I.

[C]

Was it. Was I on My aame or was it off night?

[D]

Let's say it's a C minus.

[A]

Did I did the ish go to

[E]

the car

[D]

Pepsi bottle come out?

[E]

Just went to the car that got that Pepsi bottle for me.

[A]

I. I don't know how I feel. We got to see.

[B]

I'm not paying. I'm not paying.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I think the minute you tape you got to take thought that this might get leaked with anybody.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's not always the person who

[G]

you take the leg up.

[B]

Gotta just go ahead and take show out.

[D]

You gotta show out or when you

[B]

take show out because they. This tape was whack. All sex tapes is whack, period. Most celebrity sex tapes is trash anyway.

[F]

They really are.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Most celebrity sex tapes. Most my sex tapes is whack. I don't be getting the good angles or the right. Right rhythm neither.

[E]

It's hard to do when the tape is on. I'm telling you, it's tough.

[G]

You're a celebrity.

[C]

It's tough.

[D]

So if you should drop.

[E]

You know how many iPhone holders I bought to put on? You gotta get to write the that can angle. Yeah, it's tough. It is.

[B]

How would you address that if one of your old tapes dropped and you just on there chump.

[E]

How old?

[C]

One of his tapes did drop and he was tuned.

[A]

He was chumped.

[D]

Oh, shit.

[E]

That was a piss tape.

[F]

That was sex tape

[A]

last.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[A]

Now listen, my sleep dick has been out there. But listen, I ain't mad that there's a. There's a. What do they call it? A shower. A grower and a knower. Now with puff.

[E]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, the.

[E]

That. The. That look kind of chump sleep. Hey, it could be a proud day. Hey, it's okay. Okay. Hey, it's all right. Some. That's. They. They can't grow. They don't wake up.

[C]

Permanent sleep.

[A]

God damn it.

[E]

Dead.

[F]

That's.

[A]

You know what's funny is so funny. If one of my mutates went out there out there think they could change me? Chicks out there think they could teach you and show you and mold you. Chicks love a project.

[E]

Love a project.

[G]

They can't grow me meat.

[A]

No, you're a game.

[B]

Oh, why Puff ain't just buy a meat.

[F]

Get the extendo.

[B]

Yeah, you know they got the extendo now. Yeah, he got mad money.

[D]

Is that a thing really? Yeah.

[B]

You can get me, sir.

[F]

You can even just get the one that, you know, I mean, you can strap on.

[C]

Yeah, get the one that strap on top of Your shit might as well just go full.

[D]

Full lesbian, right? If you get a strap, you don't

[A]

even feel that right, Dog, that nigga could use his pink. He. He could. He could use a. There's a bunch of things he could use. Puffy scissor in ain't the biggest thing in the world.

[F]

Oh, yo, stop.

[G]

Puffy scissor.

[D]

Puffy scissors. I mean, y' all keep laughing.

[E]

Puff coming home.

[D]

Puff coming home too.

[E]

He know what his meat look like.

[C]

I don't care. I come home.

[E]

Puff.

[A]

That make all his girl songs hit different. I need a girl. I need a girl again. No wonder you need a part two.

[C]

Satisfy you.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[F]

No, you didn't.

[A]

I've been around the world and I yai y. I can't find my baby.

[E]

You don't say. You don't. You don't say you can't find a God.

[B]

Listen, man, just cause you got little meat don't mean you ain't a man, man. So you know he wasn't born with the option.

[E]

No, no, for real.

[D]

It's true.

[A]

True.

[D]

It's true.

[F]

Are you hitting with the. It's the motion in the oceans feature.

[B]

Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? Some people don't need the.

[D]

The meat.

[A]

Well, you're right, because it's a secret. Yeah, it was a secret up there.

[E]

But if the universe somehow makes it known that you got about a 2 inch dick. Hey, piss different when you step to the urinal and I'm up there. God damn it. And they could be way in there like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes

[C]

be touching the porcelain. Even that might be a problem.

[F]

Little bit.

[D]

Wait, you talking about.

[B]

You gotta put the.

[C]

Just gotta hold it down.

[A]

Hold it down.

[E]

Sometimes also some pride at the urinal. I stand there after I'm done just wiggling just to let them know ain't sweet. Go wash your hands, boy. Hey. Hey, you go ahead. That be at the dryer got some comments. I be like, y. I put my hands on my head.

[F]

Hope we got to get the toilet paper.

[E]

Yeah, there you go. Hey, hit him with. Hit him with a little white.

[A]

Hey.

[E]

That give baby wife a whole new meaning. Hey, listen. Oh, he got a little me get it.

[B]

He still got. It's still great quality women that he's been able to keep for sure through

[D]

however he was doing.

[G]

It speaks to that though.

[D]

It speaks to.

[B]

He's had money, so that's about to say.

[D]

Speaks to being rich.

[B]

That's a big part. And then he's also.

[A]

He got the perfect life for a. With no dick.

[B]

But you know how ill you gotta be to put your rod to the side.

[A]

It shouldn't be like he. If you had the design it. I mean, you wouldn't design it like that.

[F]

Well, yeah. This part.

[D]

Yes, you. Yes, you would.

[A]

No, I wouldn't.

[C]

Not some of the.

[A]

I want some dick.

[E]

I want to have. No, no, no, no, no, no. Cuz these clipping crazy. No, no, we're pausing that.

[C]

Yo, that's a sound bite.

[E]

I'm like, let that go. I'm saying I want to have dick.

[D]

So if someone

[E]

too much better.

[D]

Much better.

[E]

You really clean.

[D]

You really clean that one out, buddy.

[F]

Never mind.

[E]

Be who you be free.

[C]

Be free, Joe.

[E]

Yo, y' all know what the fuck I'm saying?

[D]

That's a good question. If somebody said, look, you could have Puff's money, but you also have to have Puff's dick, do you take it?

[E]

Yeah, I think that's how we take nothing. I think that's how it all went.

[D]

Take nothing. No, seriously, would you do that? Honestly? Let's assume he's worth 800 mil.

[A]

Gotta be. Take that. You can't get it. That's the other part that scares me.

[H]

How much?

[D]

Yo, this thing's worth 800 million at a peak, right?

[B]

No, I'll take a million dollars and a big schlong.

[C]

Pause.

[E]

Wow.

[D]

800. I know you love money. 800 million. But you gotta have Puff's dick.

[A]

I feel gay even doing it, even doing this.

[E]

So this part. Wait, so this is the part that

[C]

got niggas feeling gay, Right?

[B]

We shouldn't be obsessively joking about a nigga.

[D]

Small dick.

[B]

Nigga got a small dick. All right, it's.

[A]

Fuck it.

[E]

He also got 800 million, so it's

[B]

not the worst thing.

[E]

I'm not joking about him having a small dick.

[A]

I'm talking. I'm joking on him about us knowing that he has a small dick and that not being the thing.

[E]

And that not being the thing that you led with in court. Y' all think I'm playing?

[A]

When I came up here with the

[E]

court, when they try to charge me for the looting this.

[A]

Yo, he was hard doing some shit. Oh, no, no, no.

[E]

Let me call somebody in here that can testify to this. Hey.

[C]

I hit my lord.

[E]

You. I think we got him the hardest, Will. That's hard.

[G]

Yo, yo, yo, I ain't white.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. And my baby took the st. Let that white lady.

[A]

No, white.

[E]

White. No, it wasn't.

[D]

You can still, you could still be

[E]

your dick could be a line of defense.

[B]

You could still be a sexual deviant and aggressive. If you got a little dick. Let's not come.

[F]

I have a feeling they're probably more you. I mean.

[E]

No, I'm saying in the Luden thing, you have to prove that you're a wreck like Harvey.

[C]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[A]

Cause the thing is you have some type of sexual intent. Yeah, they try to say big daddy. Yeah. I mean. Chill, chill, chill, chill. Puff. Shit is.

[C]

That was crazy.

[D]

Explains a lot.

[A]

It does. It explains it all.

[B]

We were talking on the side. I said ish has a different thought. I think that this shows how. How much of his pride he had to put to the side of how insecure he was. Wasn't the fact that he was able to have that and still feel okay with bringing another in the room just to please this woman. At some point you have to put your pride to the side and be like this doesn't matter at this point.

[A]

No, wait. I had to put a strain in order. Big dick.

[C]

If you're a freaky and you getting off on that type of. Though, that's the missing. He was getting something out of this. It wasn't like I'm just sitting there and you getting yours and I'm not. He got something out of that.

[D]

It wasn't a selfless act.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

They sent. They sent that to the kitchen to make breakfast one time.

[E]

That's what the escort was saying. They were saying sometimes he was in the kitchen making croissants with the good butter. Cowboy butter.

[G]

Irish gold.

[E]

Irish. Irish gold. Oh man.

[A]

That is funny. My Lord.

[D]

Man.

[G]

Well, I feel.

[B]

I feel bad that this got leaked.

[A]

Yeah, I feel awful that I do too. Cuz it's something supposed to know.

[C]

I feel bad for her that it got leaked. And I feel bad for. For the son.

[B]

I feel.

[D]

I feel bad for Puff too.

[F]

I feel bad for Puff. Yeah, for sure.

[D]

Nobody should have their sex tape leap if they don't want it leaked at all. To me, it's just that simple. Even if I don't like what you do.

[A]

I feel the worst for Puff. I do.

[C]

I feel worse for the son. He 13.

[D]

That's why I feel worse for him. Yes.

[C]

That's high school.

[A]

Well, and the kids, all of the.

[C]

He's at the top of the list.

[A]

All kids.

[B]

All the kids.

[F]

All the kids.

[D]

Must be rough today, boy.

[G]

He's at the top.

[C]

He's definitely.

[D]

Hope they all for the summer already. Cause going to school the next day

[G]

after that shit get leaked, I would stay home.

[B]

I think Puff kids is at the top. Them having to go through that whole trial moment. His daughter. His young daughter's having to see. I think that's fucked up.

[E]

You know how bad you gotta feel.

[A]

Like in the 90s, US 90s niggas invented the red light. That's when they started selling them. I had them all in my high school board. But the red light make anything you do look ill. That's a fact. I never even thought about it from the perspective of the red light. To hide some.

[E]

He was prancing around with a pillow, covering his. With no pillow.

[F]

He was just holding his hand.

[E]

Oh, hand was big as a pillow next to that. He talking about contrast. Oh, shit, man.

[B]

He had the shit that changed colors, too.

[D]

Went from purple to red. All right.

[A]

The Home Depot Ice told me when I get off of work to go look at Karisha mentions.

[F]

Oh, wow.

[A]

And I am. And. And I am.

[D]

It's crazy like that.

[C]

Ah, they was having a field day

[A]

in her mentions, bro. No wonder. Spin that. And of course. Of course spend that.

[E]

What else?

[A]

God damn it. All right, I'm done. Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough.

[F]

I think we did it. Yeah.

[E]

Shout out to y' all out there that.

[A]

You know, I mean, God damn, that sucks.

[E]

Imagine that.

[D]

No, no, no.

[E]

How do you break that out when it's time to.

[C]

You got. You got to tell them first.

[E]

That would strip me of all my jet.

[A]

Already.

[E]

That was tripped.

[A]

Nah, still.

[D]

I want to have a good point, Ice.

[A]

I want to have. Go ahead.

[D]

I'm sorry. I mean, I should say. You got to warn them first. You got.

[A]

You would have to.

[C]

You can't bring.

[E]

You can't whip that out nowhere.

[C]

You can't surprise them with that.

[D]

Yo.

[E]

Private jet deck. Cancun, Barbados. There's nowhere where that's going to look

[B]

like we on our way to Turks and Caicos.

[E]

That ain't going to help. That will jump. Skydive

[A]

that.

[E]

Get the out of here.

[C]

She going to pull it out on

[G]

f. Guys even do nothing. They pretend you crazy. And they going to front.

[D]

They going to front, right?

[E]

They going to pretend to choke and everything.

[D]

That's going to be faking.

[H]

Yes.

[E]

Oh, dang. Making it

[C]

crazy.

[E]

Oh, you killing it. Killing it.

[H]

Daddy

[G]

got six Birkin bags on the

[E]

side of the bed. I can't even breathe. Daddy fake the leg shaking everything. Oh, I'm coming again. Oh, shit. You doing it again to me. What are you doing to my body?

[C]

Body, man?

[A]

Yo, get off all the lies, right?

[C]

All Eat them all.

[G]

Crazy.

[A]

You could be gay for play with that.

[D]

Your boy always take it too far.

[E]

Always. Bro, they got prostate pills that do more damage than this. All right, man, let me tell you the things that hurt more than that. Stuff your toe,

[A]

it's crazy.

[E]

Anything with those. Wait, yeah. When you stuff. Hey, hey. When you try to put your drawers on and you chip up and you fall, that whole. Yeah, that hurt more, too. What? Oh, what else hurt? Hey, that first sip of coffee where you don't know how hot it is yet. Oh, man, that hurt more than whatever Puff gonna do with that. Picking your nose, Pick an apple. That is.

[F]

Stop, yo.

[E]

All right, man, watching a plant die, it's like. Oh, man. Watching anything hurt more than whatever pain he can inflict.

[A]

Damn. Damn.

[G]

That's crazy.

[C]

Yeah, that is crazy.

[E]

If that video had come out him.

[A]

I deny everything. I ain't abuse nobody. Look at me.

[D]

Look.

[A]

Look at this. Or that explains. Yeah, it can go either way.

[G]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Come on.

[E]

I would wear a belt if I was. I would never go nowhere like that.

[H]

Huh?

[E]

I would have a strap on under my. I would tape a remote, something.

[F]

Bottle of shampoo, something.

[E]

Yo, down there, dog. You know how many of the proud moves you lose? You can't even be like, be right

[A]

back about hop in the sh. Hour.

[E]

You can't even say that.

[A]

You can't wear gray sweats. No, you can't.

[F]

You can't think it's a belly button,

[A]

all right? That got to be an eater.

[E]

He got to be down there for hours.

[D]

Crazy.

[A]

Crazy.

[G]

Oh, that's crazy.

[E]

Oh, man.

[A]

Work with what you work with, yo. Yeah, eat it for both, right? Ain't just the.

[D]

The girls, cuz.

[A]

That ain't going to do nothing but, oh, boy, either. You can't pull that out anyway.

[E]

Pause.

[F]

No happy problem.

[E]

And these are those jokes, man.

[A]

Listen, Puff ain't been nothing but a good guy to me.

[H]

Good gosh.

[E]

What the you gonna do about it? You better go. Hey, park it.

[G]

Thousand pull ups a day, right?

[C]

Ain't no pull ups for that.

[G]

Listen, Puff coming home?

[A]

Nah.

[B]

JD's revenge.

[A]

You mean the baby pull ups? For real.

[E]

Cause in my head, on some pride, I go back to ancient times where it wasn't no clothes.

[A]

We walking around in grass on the Congo.

[E]

And if you gotta walk around like

[C]

this with a leaf, that's the first thing.

[F]

With the leaf.

[C]

That's why the leaf started.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, they got them now. I'm gonna cover mine.

[E]

He could do that.

[A]

Could do that with the broke leaf.

[E]

No, when the leaves drying, it cracked. He tried to pick a couple.

[A]

He can pick up a little feeds of that.

[E]

Anyways, hold your.

[A]

Hold your head. Both.

[E]

What else we got?

[D]

I want to see how you transition. I've been seeing.

[A]

I got you.

[E]

That we could talk about.

[D]

Come on.

[E]

You want to talk about Boost.

[A]

See, I thought you going to talk about Sauce Walker, but it's cool. All right, well, come on.

[E]

Let's get to Sauce Walker.

[A]

Sauce.

[E]

Let's get to Sauce Walker.

[A]

Sauce Walker has been arguing with his baby mom, Kylie.

[E]

Okay, Kylie.

[A]

Apparently I'm just playing this, man. Ain't no cool way to say none of this. Oh, my God. Damn, that was funny, man. Jump me in Harlem.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

All right, let's see. That's crazy.

[C]

Don't say nothing about me with my baby mama.

[E]

Nothing. I'm gonna handle y'.

[F]

All.

[E]

It's that simple.

[C]

I don't give a what the consequences is.

[D]

Why? Why? Yeah, you handle me. You already handle me, so what the does it matter? You already.

[E]

I'm all right.

[D]

You already put your hands on me.

[E]

You already do all that already. You.

[D]

So what the does even matter?

[E]

I got you jump by my hoes. I will put my hands on you, though. But I didn't. You got jumped by my black ho video.

[D]

Yeah, because you had me set up. Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel dead?

[E]

I will get you jumped again.

[D]

I don't give a. I'll get you killed again. It's crazy.

[E]

I'll get Drake car shot at the real life. Who the I am.

[C]

I don't give a.

[E]

What nobody talking about.

[D]

Okay, you need to calm down down. Yeah, you do.

[A]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.

[D]

That's why don't talk on the phone about nothing.

[A]

Damn. It was another one somewhere. Let me find it. I'mma find the other one.

[E]

Y' all talk.

[B]

I'm waiting to see which way y'

[C]

all gonna go on this.

[B]

Because I'mma keep it a stack.

[C]

It's clear she's trying to line them up in the. In the.

[B]

That every done spazzed on their baby mom at some point.

[E]

Tell TR to keep my name out his mouth. Out his mouth before I embarrass him. It's simple as that.

[A]

Tell TR to keep my go on

[E]

the Internet and embarrass him and show him.

[D]

Show him what?

[A]

Show.

[E]

Show him what you about to show him.

[A]

See that.

[C]

That.

[B]

Now I ain't with nothing happening to. To somebody or. Or that threatening Drake, but I. I'm not gonna sit here and play like niggas don't get emotional and bug out over some shit their baby moms.

[F]

What's the backstory with Drake?

[D]

He bought a Maybach, right?

[F]

He bought her a Maybach.

[A]

He bought her a Maybach. And apparently the lyrics and the lyrics to the fucking shit. I put the man in manipulation. I bought you a Maybach. I'm paying your rent. Apparently, that's about Sauce Walker and this young lady. She went all day posting lyrics and text threads and voice notes. She went all day long, along with this.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

And Sauce Walker kind of been going back and forth, too. And his. His take is. Yeah, I said all that and I meant it. Yeah, I sent my. Out there to go with Drake, and we've been busting that money down. And I ain't mad about.

[F]

Oh, he sounds some dumb.

[C]

Oh, no, he. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just say yeah. Like, he's kind of out with that.

[A]

It's yesterday was the first time I ever saw it. So just in plain black and white. It's been the rumors for a while. Sure. I've seen Sauce Walker in la. Mad different places.

[E]

It's never come up, so I can never. But people in Houston be like, yo, he's a pimp.

[A]

I'd be like, for me, that's hearsay. I don't know.

[E]

Yesterday, he was like, I got bitches. They pay me. I send them out. This is what the game is.

[A]

The game.

[E]

How often I'm not mad.

[C]

Y' all keep saying I'm mad.

[E]

I'm a pimp.

[C]

He even got.

[A]

He.

[C]

He talked about it on his. In some of his music. Like he's in the porn industry, and he got his girls, and it's that he speaks about it. He's open with the shit.

[H]

Salute.

[D]

So what's.

[A]

So what's the.

[D]

So what's the beef Now?

[B]

That's what I'm confused by. Cause if you're doing that, you sound a little bit too emotional.

[G]

You do.

[B]

About some shit that you already been setting up.

[A]

Knowing that.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

That's the only part that I'm confused.

[A]

I think that's a misconception about pimps, that they don't get emotional.

[G]

No, but if you. You know what? Come along with the game. So if you sent her and when you go send them.

[A]

Me sending you Don't. All right, I sent you.

[E]

You came back.

[A]

The money bust down.

[C]

What they got to do with how

[A]

I feel about you putting me in a song or you putting our business in a song or you playing with one of my hoes in a song don't nobody know.

[G]

The world don't know who they talking to.

[C]

Know it I'm true.

[D]

But now the world know it. Yeah, the world didn't know. Now you the world, you just.

[C]

I'm talking to the girl like he wasn't putting out a statement. She recorded this and put this out. I'm arguing with her like, yo, you doing.

[G]

Let me tell you something. My. If I pay for the. You can't tell me if I can't

[C]

put it in the song.

[G]

That's my money. I could put what the I want to put in the song if I paid for it.

[A]

That's not how pimp game goes. That's not how pimp game go.

[B]

Let me tell you.

[A]

That's not his.

[G]

You can't be mad. You can't be mad at Drake. Let's say Drake paid. Let's say Drake like the girl. You can't tell me that I can't put a girl that I like in a song.

[A]

Ish. I'm telling you wrong. I'm telling you wrong.

[C]

I want to hear from you, but

[D]

break it down wide.

[B]

What happens is when women talk to.

[A]

Because it's rules. Yeah, it's rules.

[C]

Hold on. Talk to him, Goldie.

[B]

When a woman go renegade, right. And you start going outside of pocket.

[F]

Yes.

[B]

And align.

[D]

What we doing?

[B]

Like buying you a Ben. Some of that bends is my money.

[A]

True. Right.

[B]

Some of that shit you doing.

[G]

No. The Benz is my money. The Benz is mine.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

There's no yours.

[D]

Everything is a bus down.

[B]

You're talking about the pimps.

[E]

That's what he's.

[G]

That's his bins.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Everything is a bust down for us. So if you doing some side shit, that's you going renegade.

[A]

True.

[B]

And we need to get some alignment. It's also if you my baby moms, I expect you to have a little bit more lined up with me than you going ahead and allowing this nigga to play with me on some song or make a joke out of what

[G]

we got going on.

[C]

But she ain't allowing it.

[A]

If you play with.

[C]

How she allow that?

[A]

If you play with. With one of a pimp's girls, it's like you playing with a drug dealer's corner. You play with one of his workers, it's the connect you're playing with. It's the same thing. I've been in too many strip clubs. Way long time ago. Long time ago. Especially in Portland. In Portland, on that strip. Portland the strip club Capital America where you see a girl, you think it's whatever, you trying to kick it or she trying to kick it, you don't know, or you trying to leave with her or you trying to anything her and somebody comes over to let you know what. What the rules are. Yes. To this girl. It's not your pussy. You're not free to go talk about her on a radio station, nowhere. You can't say none. You make the purchase. Get the fuck out of here. The end.

[D]

Okay, okay.

[C]

I didn't know that part.

[A]

I didn't know that part.

[B]

You seen the Mac, right?

[G]

I've seen way more than the Mac, bro.

[D]

No, I'm just.

[G]

What I'm telling you is one. We are assuming that he's center.

[C]

That's number one.

[A]

No, we're not. He said that. Cool, cool.

[C]

They said it. All right, cool.

[G]

Now if I center, I'm not going to be emotional. I want to keep sending her. So I want you to be infatuated with this so we could turn this into some long term money.

[B]

But if you start to lose your attachment to the person who sent you and now you start to go on your own and start doing.

[G]

Don't be mad at the. Be mad at your pimp hand.

[A]

You can't buy a pimps. You can't buy the a car.

[E]

Car.

[A]

What do you mean you can't do that?

[B]

You are wrong.

[A]

All right, never mind. I'm not talking about this with y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

Y' all ain't bought enough for me to have the conversation. You can't buy no a car.

[F]

That's true.

[B]

No, that's a fact.

[E]

And if you do expect the pimp to have something to say about it, you it almost like you're trying to take my hole. You can't. Why?

[B]

Why?

[D]

We have an affair.

[B]

It's, it's, it is what it is.

[G]

Because he be getting emotional and he.

[A]

All right, I'm done. Tell you I'm done. I'm not getting emotional. I'm getting.

[E]

I just can't stand we. My name is wrong information.

[G]

You could. You could buy a girl whatever you want. Yes, you can buy a girl whatever you want. It's the pimp nigga's car at that point. Thank you. Pimping's been going on before you start buying and before these rapper and athlete start buying. Was buying girls diamonds, was buying girls furs, was buying girls houses. You could buy the girl whatever you want. If the pimp hand is strong, it's not her car. It's my car. Am I wrong?

[D]

No, you're right.

[G]

Thank you. So get your. Your shit in line.

[B]

So that speaks to the emotional part of maybe address.

[C]

Cause I don't agree with.

[A]

Send to the mic. Send to the mic.

[B]

Oh, I don't agree with the part of what he's saying about Drake. That's the emotional part.

[G]

No, I'm talking about you can't buy the girl a car.

[D]

What I'm saying is he's saying you can. You just have to accept.

[B]

You have to accept that that's what it is. But you can address the chick that you putting out there. Yo, you going above and beyond our agreement and what we do. And that's why the emotion is coming out this way. I don't agree with the. That he's saying towards Drake. Drake gonna do what Drake gonna do.

[G]

You agreeing with me?

[B]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[D]

I'm with you.

[B]

I'm just saying I think that he's addressing her this way with the anger and all that. And just because you going above and beyond what we have an agreement.

[D]

But here's the part just him and

[C]

Drake have had issues in the past.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that that's important,

[C]

knowing that they've had issues in the

[F]

past over the same thing.

[C]

I don't know what it was over, but they've had their issues in the past. Now, a few months ago, it looked like it was all cleaned up as. You know how rap do they pop out in a picture or whatever. They did one of those. So everybody. Oh, okay. It's all good now. So. And then the album comes out, the songs come out. So it could be some other there where this is somebody I had an issue with. You know, I had an issue. Even if I sent you to do that, whatever you're doing to allow him to feel he's comfortable enough to play with me. I got a problem with you.

[D]

Now, according to her, after he saw the car, he destroyed the car. Yeah, because that's an important piece too. So I'm. I'm thinking about what is she saying is, like, if you gift the car, just understand it's our car. Why would you then destroy your own?

[B]

She might have went against that. She might have.

[G]

She might have said, no. This model gave it to me.

[B]

That's my point. And now I feel like I got a new sponsor. I got somebody that's willing to buy. First off, it ain't a lot of is buying chicks cars.

[C]

A Maybach Mayback cars.

[E]

Maybacks.

[D]

That's.

[B]

That's the other point. And you're the top doing that. So how much more am I gonna be able to get from this if he really with me in that way? Even though for Drake, that's a drop in the bucket. But for the next who feel like maybe that's his top earner and you my baby moms.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You're going out of pocket. I get that.

[A]

So, look, Drake, we'll talk another time about you paying Kylie's rent.

[G]

Keep her in the house. My. Look, keep. Keep her in the house.

[A]

Yo, y' all do sound crazy.

[B]

Nah, you can't do that.

[C]

No. Or I'm just. Or he doing like you do. Again, we. We say we. We treating this like he went and put a video up or something. This is a private phone call that she recorded. So he's going off on her saying what he feels about her, and she just happened to put it out because she feeling the other nigga now. Now she feeling like n. I don't want. You can hear it. You can hear it in her tone. Yes, you can hear it in her tone when she's talking back. Like, why, though?

[G]

Why. Why can't I?

[C]

Like, almost like I'm not even talking to you.

[G]

I agree.

[B]

And this is why I enjoy fucking with women who are not a part of this industry, A part of this shit. Ain't looking to be a part of it. Ain't into it. Because then you run into this shit, and then you expect niggas not to feel away at this point. Niggas got to stop pretending like everybody at some point don't get emotional over some type of woman. Niggas do this shit. This conversation ain't no different from. From any conversation a lot of niggas done had up here. It's just different circumstance. But we've all gotten emotional about something that our chick, our baby mom, a chick we was fucking with was doing, and we end up sounding like this. We just never exposed like that.

[A]

You can't even go fuck a real pimp ho behind his back. You can't do it.

[G]

Let me ask you the question.

[E]

You can try to do it.

[A]

I'm talking about a real pimp.

[C]

You speaking to his pimp hand. Yes, you're speaking to his pimp hand. Because, yeah, the real pimp who pimp hand is strong. You can't do that. But if she choosing and she going, what you gonna do about that?

[D]

You.

[E]

You can react.

[A]

Listen, novice Cap, there's a lot you can do about it, okay? In pimp world, there's A lot you

[C]

can do about it in pimp world.

[A]

I'm talking about you hear the saying get knocked.

[D]

And that's my point.

[B]

Every good nigga.

[G]

Every good pimps get knocked by other

[A]

pimps for they bitches.

[B]

Every nigga who's been in the game has went through the flurry of gaining one, losing one. It just comes with the game. How you go about it now, if you losing one to another pimp, you just take that. That's off your hand.

[G]

Some niggas don't just do that for

[B]

a custody to come in here and cause confusion in your shit.

[A]

Yeah, it's different.

[C]

My niggas.

[B]

I get what y' all saying. But for a nigga who, you know, not really gonna go ahead and really do with her the way that she should be treated within the game. And he taking that from your catalog. You taking that from your shit. It's a way. Especially now that you saying that they have beef. I feel like now you purposely doing it to me because we have an issue you not even doing this cause you actually want the bitch. You just trying to take money out my motherfucking pocket.

[C]

Could be and could be. That could be my game. Hey, anybody I had an issue with. You know how he move.

[A]

Source. Walker, please leave Drake alone. You. Yeah, for real. Drake, stop it, man. Cut the. You know what you're doing, man.

[B]

Stop it.

[C]

Say stop it.

[E]

Hey, Drake, you go stop it.

[A]

You get a drop saying Kylie or Mayback. Drake, we got to have a. I'm wait till I start my solo show. I'mma talk about all the. That nobody cares about.

[F]

Why you can't sell one, huh?

[G]

Why.

[A]

Why shouldn't he come on my. On my Twitch show.

[D]

I think he doing it right.

[G]

Right.

[D]

Me too.

[C]

But again, but I'm with you.

[G]

He shouldn't do it. No, he not even saying that.

[B]

No, I know what he's saying.

[A]

What he saying.

[B]

We're going to.

[A]

Please don't say what.

[C]

I know what he said.

[A]

I believe that you may know what I'm saying. Exactly what you saying.

[G]

But we just stand on opposite sides of my. If, if, If a trick could get your girl. It says more about you, but not my.

[A]

My whole ho.

[G]

I know I was trying to correct you, right?

[E]

Cuz the girl I I'm with y' all correct. Might be not happy is where I'm

[A]

just merchandise on the other side of what y' all saying.

[C]

I said, girl, I think it still applies more to you than it speaks to your. Speaks to your.

[G]

It's more to you than me.

[C]

She shouldn't even.

[B]

I want to.

[C]

I want to say this correctly, but from what I understand about pimp culture, she shouldn't even have the balls to buck and even and entertain that to that level where. Where he could take you like that.

[G]

I got that for another.

[B]

You a see the back look.

[C]

No, no, I'm did it right in

[G]

front of the face.

[A]

They do it. Yo, I done had some prime. I prime ones on the hook. Some of my best work. Gotta kinda come over here, walk away

[E]

from the dude in the bathroom. All right.

[A]

Come to the car, went home.

[E]

He find out, send some in a suit over there.

[B]

Yo, that's. Yeah.

[A]

Yo, here's the card.

[C]

This is how this works.

[A]

She won't be leaving with you. She's coming with me. Call the number.

[C]

But, you know, don't try.

[A]

I seen you. You like her. She's a cute girl.

[C]

Don't try.

[A]

Do yourself a solid. Right?

[C]

But now, because that girl understands the system.

[A]

Well, wait, then he told me.

[E]

I'm going.

[A]

But wait, you talking about that girl? Girl, no, the. All these girls. I'm listen, but you can't play like

[C]

that because they understand the system sometimes. Now what happens when she. Hold on. What happens when she don't.

[A]

That's pimp land. I. That. We can't talk about that. Something in pimp land happens.

[G]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Back to Jay Z. Sometimes they need a reminder.

[A]

Yeah, the Roots remember, yo, Even when the trees forget.

[E]

Anyway, Kylie, I hope you're doing well, girl.

[D]

Just smell that NAACP award coming.

[E]

Oh, now it's coming.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

And Golden Globe.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[B]

I mean, all that.

[E]

Did you win one last year?

[D]

I meant for us.

[A]

Oh, we ain't gonna. I was nominated last year.

[F]

For what?

[A]

Whatever award he was nominated for and didn't come in here and say it.

[D]

Oh, you talking about the 100.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

I didn't know.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know. You didn't read it. You didn't read up on the nominee.

[D]

I just got my email. Oh, shit.

[A]

I don't check email. I just don't check. Email me.

[D]

Yo, since it's Black Music Month, y' all with Black Music Month, right?

[A]

It depends where you're going.

[C]

We learned.

[A]

You. We learned.

[C]

We got to see where this go.

[D]

Where could this possibly go this bad anyway?

[E]

You.

[C]

We.

[D]

You just had a 40 minute conversation on. On pimping. There's nowhere I could go and it 45 minutes.

[E]

If you would have helped us, if you would have had something to say.

[A]

That.

[E]

Mute up fast, boy.

[A]

Y'.

[D]

All. Anyway, it's Black Music Month, so every.

[A]

You know, as if pimping wasn't in the cult.

[F]

Oh, that was all.

[E]

That wasn't.

[H]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

It really wasn't.

[C]

It was.

[D]

Well, actually was. I mean, it was all his.

[G]

They was his. And you couldn't buy none, including your wife.

[A]

But Black Music Month.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Thank you. It's Black Music Month. And so every day we celebrate different parts of Black Music Month. And the question that my sister Naima, who kind of started the movement, posted was, she asked a question. She said, what if you had to describe to somebody what black music is? What song would you pick to describe black music to somebody? Who? Don't know. I just thought that was such a great question.

[G]

One song.

[B]

There's a lot of songs I could think of.

[C]

Right.

[D]

A lot.

[A]

All three of mine would be from Stevie Wonder.

[G]

Stevie Wonder. I was gonna say one of Stevie Wonder albums.

[E]

I'll read the.

[A]

And the only thing that's keeping me from Marvin and Aretha and all that keeping me on Stevie is because Stevie lets the band rock for nine minutes on the end. It's the story instrument.

[B]

It's currently 100 years of miles Davis. Miles. I'm going to Miles. Anything from his album, I'm going there.

[A]

And I feel like Change Gonna Come is somehow the black national anthem.

[B]

That, too.

[G]

But, no, for me, it'd be Frankie

[D]

Beverly, and maybe it'd be Before I Let Go. And I'll tell you why. The band, the sound, the soul of it. But also, black people turn up to Before I Let Go.

[G]

Yeah, they do.

[D]

Even though it's a breakup song. And I think that's that. There's something about black music where we turn sadness into happiness. We turn, no pun intended. Joy into, you know, pain into joy, and joy into pain. Like, to me, that's part of black music, too. And so to have a breakup song that still is a song that everybody gets excited to hear to the point that we forget it's a breakup. On to me is. Is. Is why I would pick before I let go.

[A]

And as a man, and I mean, that tells the hidden story of when we be ecstatic over the breakup.

[D]

Yo, how about that?

[A]

Sometimes the guy. What a low. What a relief. This want to get out of here.

[E]

You have been a burden.

[C]

It worked.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Worked. Damn.

[E]

Oh, he breaking up. Oh, it worked.

[A]

Darn it.

[D]

Darn it.

[B]

Recent times.

[D]

Kendrick.

[B]

It's all right.

[C]

That's the one I was thinking. That's why I was saying Rap songs. I was going right to.

[A]

All right. I saw you the other day, Mark. You were saying you. You tweeted something about Fantasia's. When I see you singing the songs praises. And of course that's a part of.

[E]

That's.

[A]

That's a. Come on.

[D]

I think it's the black male or the male national anthem. Not even just black.

[A]

You said something like that and it got me to thinking.

[C]

I should come over again.

[G]

It's a hard.

[D]

It's a hard out for anything.

[E]

All right, But.

[A]

But don't. How about this? Don't talk until I say a song better than Fantasia's When I See for men, period. A song.

[B]

Okay, got you.

[D]

Okay, a song, but I think it's extra. I get your point. Extra special.

[C]

When you say Fantasia before I let go. It's what it does for men.

[D]

It do something special.

[A]

I just mean Frankie.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[C]

Not Frankie. Ben. Beverly. I'm sorry. Fantasy. Yes, Correct.

[D]

You're just doing this as a. I just mean.

[A]

You just mean as a song. Okay, I'm all right.

[B]

What's your song? What's your first one?

[A]

I'm starting out light. Shanice. I love your smile. Sunshine Anderson. Sunshine Anderson. I heard it all before. Nah. Miguel. Adorn.

[G]

It's up there.

[A]

All right. But it's just talking.

[C]

Oh, he's saying up there.

[A]

It's just talking. So do you think those immediate.

[G]

No, not the first.

[A]

Oh, shut the door Is adorned.

[E]

So he's with me.

[G]

Dorn is close.

[D]

It'd be better.

[C]

Yo, if it's not better because you can't talk.

[A]

Yeah, think in your head. Are you speaking for Adorn or are you quiet?

[G]

No, quiet.

[A]

Okay, go on. The whole room is quiet.

[D]

Quiet. Yes, for all three songs.

[A]

Music Soul Child.

[D]

Sonny. Friends.

[A]

Just friends. Music Soul Child.

[B]

I'm talking on that.

[C]

I might talk too.

[B]

I'm talking on that.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Affiliate struggle.

[B]

I'm talking that. I'm talking that.

[D]

Nope.

[C]

For sure, I'mma talk.

[B]

Melodically, I think is better. The guy has a. I think it has a better feel now. I know what it does for the women. The Fantasia joint. But when that record hit, just the Summer vibe Barbecue, when that came on, really good feel.

[D]

Wait till that bridge for Fantasia, though. Imani.

[A]

Yeah, cool.

[B]

I'm just speaking for what I feel Melodically, I think it's a better song. I think. I won't say vocally is better, but I do like what he does vocally on it. Better than what? Fantastic.

[A]

All right, I got him on Jodeci. St. Stay.

[E]

Stay. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

I'm going with stay as well.

[A]

He's kind of proving my point about what the black community feels about that Fantasia record.

[C]

Joe.

[G]

No. Jodecy cry for you.

[A]

Well, I'm trying not to do ballads, Jodecy. Nothing. Shut the up ice.

[G]

Not for you.

[C]

Not.

[G]

No. Stay.

[C]

I'm. I'm talking.

[E]

You going Fantasia over Come and talk to me.

[A]

Any version of.

[E]

Of it.

[D]

Yes, yes, yes. And I love that song.

[C]

I love the song.

[D]

This is more about what we feel about Fantasia's song than it is about.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not knocking them other songs.

[G]

You and Casa and Fantasia comes on. You get versus music. Soul Child.

[B]

Come on.

[G]

The response is not even close.

[B]

I. I think.

[A]

I don't think that this song is better than just friends at all. When you say or adorn.

[G]

It's not bad.

[C]

Like a better rep. We talking about in the community. Talking about.

[G]

We talking about in the community.

[C]

We talking about response to a song

[G]

comes on any song.

[E]

I said talk.

[A]

When I name a song better than.

[E]

I don't care about what the community is doing.

[B]

There's no connection that women have had to.

[C]

I'm not even talking about women.

[B]

Hear me out.

[D]

This is for men.

[B]

Hear me out. I think a part of why the men started to connect with the records because they saw the reaction women were giving to the song, not me.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

This is how I describe Fantasia. When I see you. I was just telling my wife, like, a couple weeks ago, the reason why I think it's a perfect song is. Cause this is exactly what I would want a woman to say to me in a position about me. It ain't. This ain't got nothing to do with women. In terms.

[A]

Does Keisha Cold of y' all have any song better than When I see you Love.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Just better. Better song.

[D]

Heaven, but stem from

[B]

love is a better song.

[A]

Jasmine Sullivan. Need you bad. No, no, no.

[B]

That's not better than this.

[A]

I'm okay. Yeah, I got it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Evan Campbell. Can we talk?

[G]

Oh, clearly.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

That one.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If not be silly.

[D]

That one wins, right?

[E]

That one y' all have.

[A]

When I see you up there with. It's heaven.

[D]

It's in rare air. Yes.

[H]

I don't.

[A]

No, I gotta stop. Yo.

[D]

When I see you. It's up. It's. It's not.

[C]

Yeah, I know it's not up.

[D]

It's not.

[C]

But it's up there when that come

[G]

on in the spot.

[A]

But next. Too close.

[E]

No, no.

[A]

Okay. I'm just checking With y'. All. You said every Jodeci song. I just gotta check.

[B]

I know it's old, but I'm going. Johnny Camp just got paid.

[D]

You out of your mind. Generational. I'm just saying you owe the shit this to Johnny Kemp. I'm just got paid. You out of your mind with sheep too.

[E]

That.

[B]

Come on. Y' all got me up again.

[D]

We love all these songs. This is elite company. But this is like this Jordan level.

[G]

No addition. Can you stand around?

[B]

But you're not here.

[A]

Y' all have Fantasia song ranked way higher than me.

[F]

Yeah, me as well.

[A]

I have way higher than me. So that's why I'm sh. It is an elite song for me.

[C]

Mariah, we belong together. What I'm asking.

[D]

I'm taking Fantasia. I'm taking. I don't think you understand how I feel about not over.

[A]

We Belong Together.

[E]

I'm not with.

[D]

But there are different genres.

[A]

We Belong Together Was. Was is a top 10 R B song since 2000s or some Fantasia. I will put maybe as a top 25 record.

[D]

I get you.

[B]

We can't be friends.

[A]

Shut up. Deborah Cox.

[B]

No, no, no.

[G]

R.L.

[A]

and Deborah go to bed. They can go to bed.

[C]

Nap.

[A]

Nap. Go take a nap.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Which one can go to bed?

[A]

Deborah Cox and RL but you going to ballads. I. I don't think that's fair.

[D]

Yeah, it's the upbeat ones.

[E]

I'm a ballad guy.

[A]

I'm gonna pick too many ballads over when I see you. But okay. Y' all got it ranked high. Y' all got it ranked.

[C]

Record is high, yo. It should be very high.

[A]

Tony Braxton. You're making me high. No, no, that's my case. Touch me, tease me.

[G]

No, no.

[A]

Oh, you is.

[D]

But it's a great one. You

[A]

crazy.

[D]

I'll give you. When it's in the mix. I'll give you one in the. In the mix. Love on top.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

No. Yeah, yeah.

[E]

No, I'm with you. Okay.

[A]

But again, y' all have.

[D]

I still would take Fantasia, but it be it by a hair. I mean, I'm talking about like a photo finish.

[G]

No.

[A]

Oh, that record got a different connection to you.

[G]

Can we talk? Yes. Cry for you. Yeah.

[C]

It's too slow for me. I don't trying to think what else do I.

[G]

Because I've seen in all different rooms what this song does to the people and that matters. Like, when can we talk? Comes on the whole restaurants now them lamb chops and people start singing that shit.

[B]

Mary J.

[G]

Which one?

[B]

No, it's a Few of them.

[D]

I don't think so.

[A]

He didn't name one yet.

[D]

I'm saying she ain't got one.

[A]

One mark. All right, you bugging there.

[D]

Name one.

[E]

You remind me.

[D]

Wait, you don't marry Mary.

[E]

Got a bunch of.

[A]

When I.

[C]

When I see you in that conversation.

[D]

Don't be disrespecting. Mary got about 15. That's in the conversation. You remind me what might. You remind me. Might do it. You remind me. Might do it. But it would. It ain't that many. I'm saying ain't that many on the planet from any artist.

[F]

I'm going down.

[D]

No, but I'm also talking about upbeat record.

[E]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[C]

Stop for a second.

[D]

We talk about upbeat records, right?

[F]

Okay.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. We add to me a lot of Mary's best is something different.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

Are we just saying this record is better than that record? Like what exactly are we comparing?

[B]

Just saying what's better?

[C]

Because, see, you said yes, you said no. That's where I'm lost that. What are we talking about?

[A]

What was my question?

[C]

So just this record better than that record.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And I'm saying for me, there aren't a lot of changes in existence.

[C]

It's records that are much better than that. That record that I. If that's the conversation.

[D]

But I think. I think it morphed into also like sort of people's reaction to it. How we all.

[C]

That's what I was over.

[A]

We talk about upbeat records going by reaction. Then I may switch over to ish side some what people. How people respond to that record is going to be. If that record comes on today is going to kill. Well, now when music's that when Just Friends come on, it's crazy too.

[C]

But it don't get the same as dreams and nightmares. R and B records.

[D]

That's a good. That's a good way to think about it. Now you going to base the reaction

[B]

to be the better song or.

[A]

No, we switched it. You guys just keep up, okay? I'm on better records than I switched it. And when we switched it, I agreed with.

[G]

We got you. Okay.

[A]

So graduating kids. I went to graduation. I've been to a few graduations. So don't think that. What I'm saying is just from this gr. Last graduation I went for, I done went to a bunch of them. And let me tell you a few things that I've noticed. One, some people think we could do away with the graduation quotes as the Guys, as they walking across the stage. Oh, nah, I'm not so mad at the quotes.

[E]

What I am mad at is none

[A]

of these kids wrote these quotes. None of them.

[E]

All of the quotes. A parent wrote it. Somebody else else. Little Johnny's quote. I'm being guided by my faith in God at all times.

[A]

He didn't write that.

[E]

Who wrote these?

[F]

Chat.

[C]

Gbt.

[B]

Chat, man.

[E]

You're right.

[G]

It could be inspiration from a book.

[E]

No, it's chat.

[C]

GPT money. I'm telling you something. That's it.

[B]

And they doing that right at the spot right there.

[C]

Give me a quote real quick.

[E]

Yeah, One of these kids go up there, all right? Little Becky come up there, and her quote is, remember, this is your first shot at life, too.

[D]

Shut the up, Becky.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. A lot of these kids just had quotes where it's like, yo, dog, you

[A]

can save all this. My lord is my shepherd. Like, get me the out.

[E]

Hey, we can condense this graduation by

[A]

about 30 minutes if we don't hear.

[E]

Put this in the yearbook, whatever happens.

[C]

That's what I used to do.

[E]

Why we got to hear these questions?

[F]

Quotes.

[C]

Why you said? What happened to that? The yearbook is digitized.

[G]

They make yearbooks, man, that cost 500.

[E]

No

[D]

yearbooks anymore.

[A]

Yes, they do.

[G]

They should.

[C]

All right, that.

[E]

Well, that's weird.

[C]

That is a flyer now.

[A]

That's weird.

[E]

The quotes.

[C]

It ain't a year book no more. That's just a pamphlet.

[F]

They don't write in the.

[C]

In the how it used to be pages. And then all of the different groups and all that.

[G]

You behind them bleachers.

[E]

If you know, you know.

[A]

Yo, everything. That was some of the horniest I've ever heard from you. And I believe that you have bleachers and wrote it.

[G]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Yo, why he yo.

[E]

Damn. Damn. Know.

[G]

You know, South Mountain.

[A]

It's cool, though. Wow. Hold on. He need help. He don't believe in therapy. I know he don't believe it.

[D]

That's it. That's it.

[E]

They still do this where they throw the hat?

[A]

You need a puff dick.

[E]

Is that why you be mad at

[D]

me all the time?

[G]

You say my word.

[F]

We got to the Peter saying,

[A]

we

[C]

at the dick off now.

[A]

You made a win.

[E]

We are not at the dick off.

[A]

No.

[E]

What do it matter? I'm richer than him. Yeah, what does it matter?

[C]

That's what puff said till the video came out.

[E]

No, no, I'm saying I got him.

[A]

I got dick and money.

[E]

You can't buy the class if I'm off by it. I can make it up. Little bag. Damn. You beat me by inch. We out the Chanel or what?

[D]

Oh, oh or what?

[C]

Who said it was an?

[D]

He said it ain't a photo finish.

[E]

Yo. Niggas is having a dick.

[D]

Not Nick. It's not.

[C]

Who is it then?

[E]

Ish.

[C]

It's y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

I'm not doing nothing.

[G]

This is crazy.

[E]

I don't entertain. Is on real matters of freakiness. He ain't a Voyer exhibitionist. He.

[C]

He walking around like this too.

[A]

He don't.

[E]

He ain't really with the shits. Nigga.

[C]

Let's move on.

[G]

I really expose you.

[E]

You better shut up. You can't expose me.

[G]

I can't.

[A]

You can't expose me.

[G]

I can't.

[E]

You can't.

[A]

It's cool. You can't. You can expose me.

[E]

I get naked right now, Nigga. I'm a doom you on. I'm a nudist. I know the pride month.

[A]

What the fuck is you talking about?

[D]

Y' all taking this prim month shit serious.

[C]

Not a woman in here. This nigga was talking about I get naked right now. Know who the fuck you want.

[E]

Also long pause. Because we're talking.

[F]

No more pauses this month.

[A]

Long break in noise to go from graduation talk to the dick off is disgusting.

[F]

Yeah, it is.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And now I'm coming back with graduation talk.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

And do we have to announce the loser kids?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Who's the loser kids at the graduation?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Graduate.

[A]

All right.

[C]

You mean like valedictorian?

[A]

And then Danny Telesco is coming to the stage. He's going to Duke University.

[E]

He's majoring in socioeconomics, economic technology, class 103 on a full scholarship. You be sitting here roofing this little nigga. All right, all right.

[G]

Let's tell how much scholarship money they got.

[E]

Yes, that's the gangster. I just said they got 1.9 mil in scholarship money. Here comes little Sally Chamonsky.

[A]

She will be going to North Carolina

[E]

A and T on a full scholarship, studying to be a doctor with her. Major in some doctoral shit. Fire.

[A]

And now, yo, Travis, here comes Fred.

[E]

That's racist.

[C]

You can't do that.

[A]

That's racist.

[C]

Don't do that, y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

He did.

[H]

That was him.

[E]

He ain't black.

[F]

He going to bmcc.

[A]

I'm making Spanish now that you did that.

[E]

Go ahead. Here comes Fred Freddy Rivera. Fred is going to go home.

[G]

Fred is going to McK.

[E]

Fred is going to a Small Chuko and Katie Tech, Texas, majoring in mufflers. He's studying to be a mechanic soon. Fred going to Home Depot. Oh, register three. Yeah, you be in the audience feeling bad for Fred.

[G]

Yo, yo, your boys.

[E]

What? Nah, Fred be up. You can't say they mufflers.

[A]

Calling to the stage, David.

[E]

David. Kid didn't get accepted to at least 75 colleges. He's taking a year off to think about his future. David is taking a year off to think about to consider his officers. David will be staying home with his mom, saving money, smoking weed in the basement. There you go. For a tough economic. Why are we making fun of this?

[A]

This is crazy, yo.

[E]

Nah, no, yo, if I'm undecided on my college and my major, don't put me behind the valedictorian honor roll.

[D]

I'm sorry, that's fact. Yeah, that's fact.

[C]

You right, though.

[B]

They can leave all that shit.

[C]

Get up there all decorated.

[E]

And another thing, if you ain't got a supportive family, you could go last. Like if when they call your name, your family and then they be like, yeah. They be like, yo, that waited for. We waited for you, yo.

[C]

Then they always hit you with the police. Hold your applause to the in.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I be like, what you going to do? We out of here. What the you going to do? Find us. We already did this.

[G]

That's crazy. Never listen. Hilarious.

[B]

They should hire some people to clap for who ain't got nobody to clap for them.

[C]

Damn. That's up, cuz.

[B]

That should be up, though. I ain't going to lie.

[D]

And a lot. Yeah, I know. In a lot of schools, when I give the graduation speech, like at the end, it's the cuz a lot of the the W's, X's, Y's and Z's be the Asians. So it'll be like, the crowd's not clapping. The black people are left. And their families don't do all that shouting. So it'd be like, what?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Cuz them Asian girls that go across

[A]

the screen, I mean, it's the screen. The stage

[E]

Asian girls walk across, that's going to 17 colleges, studying to be an astronaut.

[C]

She a doctor already, right?

[A]

Like she.

[G]

She graduated with 60 college words.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, Wings out. She is not. Not. No. That be the kind of name I'm not even playing.

[G]

Y said the WXs, Y, those be

[D]

the ones don't get no love.

[B]

It's up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Coming across the stage is Tremaine.

[D]

Can you stop saying coming across the stage like he's a strip Club, strip club voice.

[E]

Yeah, I know. Coming next up is.

[D]

You can tell this thing ain't.

[E]

But it'd be his days. But they don't say it like that, Joe. Next up, next up, next up, next up, next up is Tremaine.

[A]

Tremaine has been studying hard on being a store clerk. Next up, Justin.

[C]

His mixtape is dropping tomorrow.

[D]

They should stop doing that. They should stop.

[E]

No, they should.

[A]

And then when you see the loser kids.

[E]

Kid.

[F]

Loser Joe.

[C]

He graduated.

[E]

Graduated.

[A]

He won a kid with a dim

[E]

future on me, dog.

[G]

That's not just such thing.

[A]

You wait now we. You telling me there's no such thing as a kid with a dim future,

[B]

Joe, we just some of us.

[A]

I just asked you something.

[G]

No, some of us up here were looking.

[A]

Can you answer my direct question? Is there a such thing as a kid with a dim mutual.

[C]

Yes, the there is.

[E]

Yes, there is, is.

[C]

Yes, there is.

[B]

You get a chance to change the

[D]

dim, make it a little brighter. It's still a dim future.

[C]

Or you could just shock.

[E]

Oh, we never expected you to be

[C]

anything and you did it. But your future was dim.

[A]

It's really believe in the youth, yo, like he do all that toy drop sho.

[G]

You are here, right? No shot, I promise you.

[A]

Well, you can't. I'm a genius.

[G]

So this is my personal point. So somebody when you were in 10th grade said, yo, that boy got a dim future. He ain't gonna come up to nothing.

[C]

He had a dim future.

[A]

See, that's why I don't even.

[D]

Like maybe I might have said, what's your dim future?

[C]

Wait, wait, wait.

[A]

Let me.

[G]

I just think a lot of young n be misguided.

[A]

My name is my name. There is no point in my life where anybody except for a therapist or two during a dark time said that he had a dim future.

[B]

That's my point.

[G]

I'm not shooting at you.

[A]

I'm being serious. I'm saying there's kids you could look at and tell they not going nowhere.

[C]

You can tell, bro. He right. That's what I'm saying. I don't care.

[B]

Not at the graduation, though, Joe.

[D]

I got disgusting. I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example. I taught high school, right? There was this kid and I love him to death.

[A]

His.

[D]

No, there's nothing funny.

[E]

See how he didn't say nothing yet?

[A]

And you already know the kid ain't going nowhere.

[E]

I did. I know. I looked at him. Cause he said, I love him to death. That's what he is. That's how you know how.

[D]

You know I love him to death? His. Well, he and his brother went to school. His brother actually got. No, no, no, no, no. I told you this wasn't funny. But my point is. Kid never came to class. He was taking my Spanish class for, like, the second time. His dad was in jail for killing his mom. Yeah, the N had a dim future.

[C]

He had a bad hand.

[D]

To me, a dim future just means no.

[A]

This pod is the greatest.

[D]

The eyes ain't on your side.

[A]

That shit was super sad. Y' all was having fun at and doing that.

[C]

Well, I'm gonna give you a.

[D]

We're here.

[C]

I'm gonna give you a Bears.

[E]

I'm a little dead.

[C]

That was a little crazy.

[D]

He playing with house money. All I'm saying is, whatever that kid turns out to do, he surpassed with the expectations.

[C]

So let me give you another one. So when you got the kid that's 19, because he had to do the grades over a couple times, like, you kind of know already. We just get this motherfucker outta here. But he ain't gonna amount to nothing. If he does, it's a surprise.

[D]

Nah, I wouldn't say that.

[A]

Well, I was at my brother's graduation at some point. It was so many. There was so many kids graduating. I just started looking at the families that they came from.

[E]

Sometimes.

[C]

Sometimes we not telling the truth.

[E]

Sometimes it lines up like two. You look at the stage and be

[A]

like, oh, this motherfucker.

[E]

You see the dad and the mom rushing. That's right. That's right, Gerald.

[D]

You'd be like, yeah.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[E]

It's over for Gerald.

[C]

Joe. No joke. Gerald did this to get the away from them.

[A]

Gerald about to have a hard time out there. God damn. Anyway, congratulations to all the kids that graduated.

[B]

Congratulations to the army, to the music.

[C]

Yeah, get that Camaro.

[A]

Cause some. Wait till your senior year to try to get it together.

[E]

It's too late.

[A]

Hey, you've set your life back at least seven years.

[D]

Yeah, they go.

[E]

They go out. Hey, if in your senior year you just learning, hey, you ain't. You ain't got enough credits or some shit. It's the junior year. You gotta.

[D]

That's the.

[E]

Hey, you lost the plot.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[C]

What you mean I'm not graduation what I need What? I'm not graduating what I need. Oh, I could do this. No, you can't.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Shout out to some of y'. All, Some of the schools wasn't organized

[A]

enough to call you ahead of time to let you know you wouldn't be Walking across the stage that day, you

[E]

had your clothes lined up.

[C]

They let you buy a cap and gown.

[B]

Yeah, and they let you buy the cap and God.

[C]

Oh, nah.

[A]

Up.

[C]

Yo.

[G]

Warm shits ain't cheap neither.

[C]

I'm walking.

[G]

Word.

[C]

Yeah, we here.

[G]

Somebody got to get my 300. 400.

[E]

Next up. Hel me. Help me.

[A]

What?

[C]

Next up. I was first.

[E]

What was your major?

[G]

Just Valentine.

[C]

No, what was your major to this, right?

[A]

What?

[E]

In high school?

[C]

High school. What we doing? No, when you went to go graduate college.

[E]

But you was going to.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

What's your major?

[E]

What was your major?

[C]

Computer information system.

[D]

You already know.

[C]

Go ahead, get your off.

[F]

It's a good job.

[D]

It's a great job, great career.

[E]

Been working it.

[D]

Bright future.

[C]

I end up getting the job. Still you stop looking at me.

[G]

Stop looking at me.

[E]

It's no joke, you know. I don't know nothing about college major.

[C]

I'm just laughing off the stutter off the.

[E]

I don't know what's a major? What a. But if I ask you,

[A]

computer.

[D]

You had a minor, too.

[G]

No,

[A]

don't do all that. Did something happen?

[C]

Yeah, I got a job. I'm telling you, I got a job. And I was like, yo, wait, wait. I'm making. Then I'm 18, not knowing I got a job making decent money. I was like, wait, oh, what was the job paying at that time? I was making 35.

[A]

All right, now I'm getting it.

[C]

And I'm like, okay, stay in school and be broke. Work and actually make some money.

[D]

How long did you work, stay at a job?

[A]

All right, my bad for the topic.

[C]

5, 5, 6 years.

[D]

Not a bad plan.

[F]

I'm back in some trouble.

[C]

Where's the trouble now?

[A]

We can move. We can move. Yeah, my bad.

[E]

Bought her back to you heard. That's it. That's it. That's the kid we talking about that was dead? He got happy as hell in the room.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[E]

The clouds got great. A storm started coming. Yo, our bad. I have fixed it, though.

[C]

I have no trauma.

[E]

You got it together.

[C]

I'm. I'm great.

[E]

You great. Now we killed that.

[C]

I was great before here. I'm great.

[D]

Hello, darkness.

[E]

My old friend.

[D]

What, you went to school for nothing. I dropped out.

[C]

All right, all right. That counts to shut up.

[D]

We're both in the same spot. No, no, no.

[C]

I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear school shots from that couch is all.

[E]

Why not?

[C]

I don't want to hear it.

[B]

But why not?

[G]

Cause y' all ain't do it.

[B]

School ain't do shit for you?

[A]

Yeah, it did.

[C]

The same way.

[B]

It ain't do shit for me.

[C]

No, it did shit for me.

[B]

We both in the same chairs.

[C]

No, we not.

[E]

Pot.

[A]

That's hate. It is hate. That's hate. Cuz he win. He did. He tried it.

[D]

What that mean? He said if you went to school, you'd be on the main pod.

[E]

Y' all in the same spot today for this episode. Oh,

[D]

I knew I was with you.

[C]

I'm not, bro. That's not what I was saying.

[D]

It is now.

[A]

Since we speaking about kids, I'm going back to school just to see what is up to. What school you go to? Whatever school you've been in since we was 23.

[E]

I'm going.

[B]

You're not going back to school.

[A]

I'm 100% going back to school.

[C]

I think he want to go first

[F]

to get to his school.

[C]

No you don't.

[B]

You got to do ged. I'm saying you got to get the GED first.

[D]

You really kind of don't.

[G]

You don't.

[D]

You don't.

[F]

Not necessarily.

[D]

You show up to a college.

[G]

Yeah, he going testing. Yeah.

[D]

They'll take your money.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

You got.

[G]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So pretty much.

[G]

I mean.

[A]

No.

[G]

When you pay off the G. Yeah. When you 1718.

[A]

Yo, you want my test score or some bread?

[C]

I know. You know what's funny? I know somebody that did that.

[A]

I can make this worth your while.

[C]

What they do, what they was going be.

[B]

It's going to be your major.

[G]

Huh?

[C]

Was going to be your.

[A]

I got to look at my options. I don't even know what the options to be.

[G]

Business.

[A]

I never.

[E]

You mar.

[G]

I don't care. Business.

[D]

Yo, I didn't say nothing.

[G]

Business management.

[A]

Mark so ashamed of.

[D]

I'm working about four jobs,

[B]

man. That's funny.

[D]

Since we talk about kids futures, I was thinking about the reason Nicholas Cage and Kobe are written on the board.

[E]

No.

[D]

No. Okay.

[E]

It's June.

[D]

What that mean?

[A]

I'm trying to find out. Ish. Antoine, point. What happened? It's June.

[D]

Oh, primum.

[A]

Well, no, June was the limit on the. On the. On the backflip.

[G]

Oh, oh, oh, that's right.

[A]

You supposed thing. You ain't just randomly pull that out your head.

[C]

But it's cool.

[A]

Well, tell the audience how we said

[D]

it like last two episodes ago.

[E]

Sir.

[A]

What you want me to say? That you're not doing it? That's what you want me to say? Am I in the Matrix? You asked me what I want you to say, I told you.

[G]

No, it's not.

[A]

Because you're not gonna do it, right.

[D]

Okay, he might.

[A]

Are you gonna do it?

[G]

Yo, leave me alone.

[C]

My.

[G]

This is not a funny topic. Let's get to Funny Topics.

[E]

Let's get to Nicholas Cage and Kobe.

[G]

You gonna stop Nicholas and Cage and

[B]

Kobe for a backing Cage?

[E]

I mean, Nicholas Cage. Who you think I care about more,

[A]

Nicholas Cage or you, Nick Cage? N Face Off? No, you fair point.

[D]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Nicholas Cage. All right, so then you going to look at me like I'm corny if I bring it up? June 30th.

[G]

Why would I look at you like you're corny?

[E]

June thir.

[A]

Audience I'll be back.

[B]

You still got time.

[A]

June 30th. We'll see.

[B]

Still got time.

[A]

That's his problem. He won't just come out and say, I ain't doing it.

[D]

So. No, he's talking about kids futures. So Nicholas Cage formally changed his name to Nicolas Cage. You know he's a Coppola. I don't know if y' all know that he's Nicolas Coppola. He's the first cousin of Francis Ford Coppola.

[F]

Sofia.

[B]

Sofia.

[D]

Yeah. That's his first.

[A]

I didn't know this. Even if I knew, I forgot.

[F]

I didn't know that either.

[D]

And he said he didn't want to be Nicholas Coppola because he would be the loser of the group, which I think is crazy if you're Nicolas Cage or now or Nic Cage. He's like, I don't want to be the loser of that group. And I was just thinking, like, what does that mean to, like, name? It made me think about how you name your kid and what you name your kid.

[F]

Okay.

[D]

And what kind of future you expect for them. Cause I was like, especially up here with all y' all important people. And the reason Kobe's up there is because there's a kid on the AAU circuit right now killing it.

[G]

Killing.

[D]

His name is Kobe Bryant.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I'm aware.

[D]

That's a lot of pressure to put on a motherfucking kid.

[E]

Oh, shit.

[F]

It is. But he's not actually related to Kobe, right?

[D]

Not at all.

[C]

But his different.

[F]

Nicolas Cage is actually a Coppola.

[D]

That's why they're two separate examples for me about. It's just about. Nate. Naming. It's just about naming.

[G]

I think if you're Nicolas Cage and you embark on acting, it's pressure on you at that point. Once you enter the entertainment field with the coppola last name. It's pressure. I think if you Kobe Bryant and you enter basketball now, it's a pressure. But if you Kobe Bryant, you go on to be an engineer. It ain't no pressure.

[D]

I think it's fucked up, the name. You kick Kobe Bryant if you push him to play basketball.

[C]

I think so, too.

[B]

You named him from birth, but you know the inspiration.

[D]

You know why you did that shit? You ain't do that shit.

[E]

Cause you.

[F]

My dad's a tall.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

You want him to have that name and then you put him on the. You have him playing biddy basketball.

[G]

Nigga, Michael Jordan got a junior, does he?

[A]

Yeah, right.

[C]

Yeah, his son.

[G]

No, his son.

[C]

Not Marcus.

[E]

Marcus.

[C]

Marcus Jordan. Marcus.

[D]

Different in Marcus. Yeah. So that's good. Cause I wouldn't want like, if I had a son. Oh, I do have a son. Turns out I wouldn't name him. I wouldn't name him after me.

[A]

No, that was the girl.

[D]

I wouldn't name my kid after me personally for that reason. The whole reason I wouldn't have a junior is because I wouldn't want to put that pressure on him.

[G]

Ain't no pressure.

[D]

He cannot be shit just like me.

[E]

What the fuck is Mark talking about?

[D]

Talking about something.

[E]

Co Francis Coppola, y'.

[G]

All.

[E]

Get your Mark Hill ass up bad.

[F]

Pressure.

[E]

Wait, no, we gotta know now. What's the pressure?

[D]

If he wanted to be a journalist, if he wanted to be an act, a scout, people are more likely to follow in their parents footsteps and career. Like your kid raps.

[E]

I mean, does he.

[H]

That's my point.

[D]

That's my point. But now, not only not only does he rap, shout out to him. I think he's great even if you don't. But hey, shout out. He got to come in the room as Joe Button Jr. Well, he's Trey, so like that puts more pressure on you. If somebody wanted to be a neighborhood drug dealer and they were ish the second.

[C]

To your point, though, to your point, though, because he's a junior, it wasn't

[D]

pressure from his father, but his dad didn't do the same line of work.

[C]

But you get what I'm saying.

[D]

I think the pressure comes when you want your kids. Like your dad didn't want you. He didn't birth you to be.

[A]

Hey, what you mean he didn't want me?

[E]

He didn't be a rapper.

[D]

He didn't want you to be a rapper. If your dad was a rapper, it'd be hell. It'd be hella hard. Like Amani. Would you Name. Would you name a kid Imani if you knew him at.

[E]

He did. He did.

[A]

And that was.

[E]

And that ain't working.

[D]

Oh, I didn't know that. I wasn't being funny.

[E]

I didn't know that.

[A]

He didn't know him neither.

[E]

Let's see.

[D]

We can rebirth this.

[E]

Hey, let's see. Let's see if the name. Give him some of the little say, all right. Yo, you could be me, Yo. I need a Cleveland version of me, yo.

[C]

Oh, absolutely.

[E]

Amani is a fool.

[F]

Holy shit.

[E]

Imani has a junior. I have a third.

[A]

I didn't know that you would avoid having a junior for that reason. That makes it a little narcissistic.

[F]

I don't think I would have a junior.

[E]

Well, you don't want kids.

[D]

You think not? They make kids after you. Is narcissistic.

[A]

I think your reasoning is narcissistic.

[G]

It depends on the reason.

[D]

I think it's just pressure.

[C]

It's pressure regardless.

[D]

Yeah, but if you're successful, what if

[E]

his kid don't really see that you has pressure?

[D]

It don't matter. There's things in the world, for example, there's a lot of people you would agree that don't like me.

[C]

He's right.

[D]

My kid fills out an application as Mark Lamont Hill.

[G]

He's right.

[D]

There's a whole section of the world that won't fuck with him just because of his name.

[A]

See, now that sounds very different from.

[D]

That's pressure, Joe.

[A]

No, it's pressure.

[E]

No, nigga, you know, not well liked. You the name up, stock up of the name.

[D]

There's also the pressure of expectation.

[E]

So why don't you fix the Hill name?

[D]

I'm good with it. I named it something else.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I wouldn't assume that my kid would just automatically want to do what I want to do as well. Like I would allow.

[A]

Yeah, posh, bro.

[E]

Yo, I think we all delusional.

[A]

We all sick.

[D]

But it's not just Junior. There's also other names you could give your kid that put pressure on them, which is why I was thinking about the Kobe thing. That's why they connect, you know? Because if you name your kid Barack.

[B]

No, that's.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You know, I mean, nothing wrong with being a janitor, but if your kid turns out to be a janitor, you named him Barack. People be kind of looking like something went wrong.

[B]

What's even worse if your last name is Obama as well.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

So in this situation, your last name is Bryant, and you name your child Kobe like it's a couple you know what you're doing?

[C]

It's a couple Kobe Bryants.

[A]

Yeah. It took me a while to stop confusing Barack Obama.

[C]

But not who. No, he's big.

[B]

Say it.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

You were saying freeze.

[C]

No, what was you saying? You was confusing it with what?

[D]

Yeah, you didn't finish your thought.

[C]

Yeah, I was just trying to get

[A]

where you just was confusing back then.

[B]

Oh, that's peace.

[A]

Oh, okay. You were saying.

[C]

But no, it's a couple Kobe Bryant. And some of them are spelled differently. I think to go out the way and spell your child's name K, O, B, E Bryant is automatically. You knew what you was doing.

[G]

Yeah, they did it on purpose.

[C]

And you putting the pressure.

[D]

Yeah, that's pressure.

[A]

You're putting it on him.

[D]

Especially when you ain't have to.

[G]

I think, again, it's only pressure after you hoop. I think if he goes on to be a musician or an engineer or a professor, absolutely no pressure.

[C]

But, you know, for today's kids, that hooping shit starts. How old? How old? Early. So that's the parents. Before you even really realize you like hooping. That's your parents pushing you into that. Plus they made him a Hooper.

[D]

If I turn him to be an architect and my name is Kobe Bryant, people gonna be like, what happened to basket? I just feel like it's still. It looked like I failed expectations.

[A]

Well, you short, though.

[C]

So they're not gonna ask you what happened to basketball.

[D]

But my name ain't Kobe. I'm talking for that kid.

[C]

No matter what your name was, they were never gonna ask you about basketball.

[D]

They never gon ask me about basketball. But I'm talking. But again, if I'm Cornell West Jr. And I'm. And I'm teaching ICDC, somebody's gonna be like, what the.

[C]

Where'd you up?

[B]

That's selfish as.

[A]

That's understandable. If it's Cornell, we get it.

[B]

Selfish as a parent, though, to damn near predict the line of work or the. The career you want them to have before they even get on earth.

[D]

Like, that was a.

[B]

That was literally them saying, okay, we

[F]

gonna have a kid.

[B]

We gonna name them after gold Kobe.

[D]

We're gonna put them in the air because you knew a Kobe. It wasn't like that was your homie. Yeah.

[C]

What do you say to the people that look at legacy and like that? Like, I want. I want this child. It don't even got. Let's take it off of sports and entertainment. People do it in business. People do that. Politics. All politics. Yo, yo, yo, yo. One of them shows we watched where the father was, like, your path was determined. Like, I made all of this happen for you.

[A]

Billions.

[C]

No, it wasn't billions. It was something else.

[A]

But anyway, there's a few shows.

[C]

It was a couple of them, but, yeah, like. Like, you don't even have a say. So that's it. It was paradise.

[G]

President's father.

[C]

That's what it was. And it was. It's like, we. These decisions were made before you was damn near born.

[B]

I would want to have a choice in picking my own identity and picking my own. Like, at some point, like, I could see a parent wanting to lead you in a certain direction. But if you've given me that name, you've done all this other shit. You kind of stagnate me from being able to experience what I want to experience.

[G]

Your mom and a lot of niggas start beefing with their parents over that. Like, yeah, I don't want to do that.

[D]

I don't want.

[C]

I never wanted to do this. I didn't ask for this. I didn't.

[A]

I agree.

[C]

I'm watching. I'm watching the Pit and the homegirl up there.

[D]

The.

[E]

The. The.

[C]

Her mom's is, like, running the hospital or something. She wanted a head surgeon, and she didn't want that. And it's a lot of pressure on her to live up to my mother's name.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

Well, at least homie's good.

[D]

There's some selfishness. There's some selfishness. He's good.

[C]

Absolutely.

[D]

From what I. I mean, the footage I saw, I'm not sure. He's not cold.

[G]

No, he's up.

[D]

No, he's tough. He's a good kid, but I'm just saying it's not.

[A]

Or is he.

[D]

There's a lot of kids in 8th grade that are tough, that don't become that thing. And I'm just saying I hate that pressure put on him.

[G]

But Kobe won. Kobe in eighth grade?

[D]

Yes, he was.

[A]

We got it.

[D]

I knew Kobe eighth grade.

[A]

He was absolutely.

[D]

Kobe, eighth grade.

[A]

You know, mom likes to kill high school basketball kids, but I'm not killing him.

[D]

I'm saying he's great. I'm saying the kid's great. I'm just saying, why don't you give him a chance? I'm saying the kid's great. I don't want to put more pressure. I want to give him a chance by not make him have to be Kobe.

[A]

Let me change his name to Wagu.

[H]

There you go.

[A]

Talk about and won't even have a little Mark Jr. Out here like a bitch.

[D]

Sorry. Disappoint you? Maybe. Would you do a Junior?

[G]

Absolutely.

[A]

Can you make a boy?

[G]

Yo, I don't know.

[A]

It's me, though. Seriously, do we. I'm not being funny.

[C]

Yes, you are.

[A]

He has two girls and he wore Conversations. Condoms. Yeah. That mean every time at the plate.

[B]

He ain't build up no Nick.

[A]

No, he made a girl. He get offended when I say it, but. Oh, that's not a Junior, though, right?

[G]

Daughter.

[A]

If you have a daughter and you give the same name, that's not a Junior. No.

[C]

Well, Krishan did it.

[A]

Unless you have a Junior boy.

[D]

Oh, you don't see? It's another kid. You may have another kid.

[A]

Oh, you can't make a Junior.

[D]

Ice, would you have done a Junior? No. No.

[C]

But I ain't trying to be funny.

[G]

See, I'm not even go. I'mma just ignore.

[A]

Oh, man. Oh, I never even. Oh, look at you.

[E]

You know why it's funny?

[A]

He wanted his Junior. You want one? This kid?

[G]

If I wanted one.

[B]

Funny.

[A]

That's funny. You got to deal with little Glattus and Stephanie.

[C]

Let me ask you.

[A]

Yo, that's not his kid.

[E]

Whatever.

[C]

Would you have done that if. If. If Lil Mama was a boy, would that be the name that you would have. Absolutely.

[G]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All for it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

You too.

[E]

What they say you get a girl

[A]

when that ain't you doing all the main work, right?

[G]

No, Joe. What?

[A]

Like if you should go back to school for biology.

[D]

If you on top, you get a boy.

[A]

You want me to be like a surrogate or something?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[D]

A surrogate.

[E]

Yo, do you know.

[C]

Yo, you got.

[G]

I had the.

[C]

Yo, I could have blew you out

[A]

the building with this.

[E]

Hey, yo.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Oh, God.

[D]

That was crazy.

[E]

Oh, God.

[G]

Shot you out the roof, yo.

[A]

Yo, you want.

[B]

Yeah, that's cool.

[A]

That's true. You want me to freeze my.

[E]

A little bit so you get a

[G]

dude what ain't gonna be born with that little.

[A]

You got.

[G]

No, I'm cool. Meat is hereditary. I don't want that walk around with no teeny meat.

[F]

Meat is hereditary.

[C]

You talk about.

[D]

That might be the show T. That

[C]

might have did it.

[F]

We. We have learned a lot today.

[B]

That's sick.

[D]

Oh, man.

[C]

Crazy.

[A]

Y' all are three musicians with little meat.

[E]

I'm good.

[G]

Nah, I'm cool.

[E]

I keep my daughters.

[A]

Nigga, if my meat was that little, you'd have kept them.

[G]

Kept what?

[D]

Wait, what Kept them for free.

[F]

I might like 10.

[G]

I could get them now if I want for free.

[A]

Who you could get now?

[G]

Whoever we shared in common. If I wanted to go shoot.

[A]

Your greatest days are behind you. Stop it. Your greatest days are behind you.

[G]

Where yours at?

[A]

Stop it. Don't be stupid. Don't be fooled. We all faithful black men.

[C]

Okay, cool.

[D]

All right.

[A]

But by choice.

[C]

Likewise.

[A]

Some. Some is forced into that monogamy.

[G]

I wouldn't know nothing about it.

[A]

Some is forced.

[E]

I'm not talking about nothing about it.

[A]

Then why are you being private? I'm not. I'm saying.

[E]

I said no.

[G]

You talking slick.

[E]

Some are some.

[D]

Hey, yo, you know, bro.

[G]

Stop talking like you don't know who I am.

[E]

My yo.

[C]

No, he don't.

[D]

I'm not even that be y'.

[H]

All.

[E]

Look, look.

[G]

No, what y' all doing, it's not me. What y' all doing is leading into.

[E]

Yo, he be pie.

[G]

Just like Goofy's on.

[E]

Yo, he be pie.

[G]

He be pie that can say anything he want up here and get off him.

[A]

He was only POD but all of

[C]

us, we got to be.

[B]

So you think he really want to be a surrogate?

[A]

I said we faithful black men. I said nobody's going out. Nobody's trying to bag nothing. Nobody's trying to do nothing.

[B]

Oh, but you said that's my choice, though.

[D]

You said for.

[E]

I was there for your run.

[G]

That's by choice. Your better days are behind you. As if you Don Juan, leprechaun. And the rest of these up here

[A]

is you talking about the van are sick of the Joan is escort runs

[E]

and hookab who the war stories.

[A]

They sick of it.

[E]

So I'm not trying to bring it up no more.

[G]

All right, Bro, this is nuts, bro.

[B]

Everybody can put on a 45 if they want to. Now everybody can go play the game if they want.

[A]

I got to see it, though. No, you don't. I got to see it.

[E]

Why?

[B]

You don't got anybody else?

[A]

I mean, see what?

[G]

From who?

[D]

I don't know what, cuz.

[G]

Cuz allegedly let y' all tell it. Whenever I walk in a spot, you say, see it. Which one is it? It can't be dependent upon what the conversation is.

[A]

Is you're a super attractive guy with some notoriety. Now that they. Before the notoriety, when you walk in

[G]

the spot before the notoriety, my walk and my stride and my glide was the same.

[A]

Well, no, that was my game. Yes, that was my game getting it done. But today, we talking about. We talking about now, you super attractive guy.

[G]

Okay, cool.

[A]

So that's going to always be great. We talking about when you got to actually say something, Joe. When you got. When you got to close a deal.

[G]

Man, you ain't talking.

[A]

I'm asking you something.

[E]

Wait, let me talk. You don't need to sit up. You don't need to do your little stupid shoulder. I'm talking about. I'm gonna let you talk.

[D]

But let me talk first.

[A]

We talking about now, when you have to actually walk up to someone, speak to them, no matter the scenario, get a number, bring her home, like that type of stuff. We out the game. So. I mean, ain't nobody doing that now.

[C]

50.

[A]

That's my point.

[G]

Let me speak.

[A]

We've been there, done that. We ain't even gotta live like that.

[G]

I'm 50, so. It was 30 something years when I didn't know you. I got it done. There was also a period where you and I didn't speak for seven years. Guess what, Joe? I got it done.

[A]

No, that's debatable.

[G]

It's not.

[A]

Yo, is there someone that could attest to that? Yo, yeah, every.

[G]

You know that. I know.

[A]

I asked them.

[G]

You've seen me.

[A]

They didn't say nothing.

[G]

You've seen me. Me standing on couches in greenhouse when you was down on the pillars.

[A]

We did it, dog.

[E]

I mean, you was in gym.

[G]

Table 13. We had it smashed out.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, the Jo and Ish War talk about segment. Show me this weekend. Let's go out this weekend.

[G]

N. I'm cool and I'm a single black, faithful man.

[E]

I.

[A]

You're not a single, I mean, faithful black man.

[E]

I was like, whoa, whoa, wait.

[G]

You're not gonna see it happen. I'm not.

[D]

That's a fact. That's good, y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

Everybody faithful.

[A]

Sometimes you gotta just sharpen the steel, though.

[E]

I'm good. Still dull sometimes. I mean, I'm good.

[A]

Nah, I'm saying.

[G]

I feel you, my blade.

[E]

Trash. Listen. So ISIS man, Boosie.

[D]

That's what they said.

[E]

ISIS man Boosie allegedly was at a

[A]

club and clocked the security guard over the head. Head with a hookah bottle. A glass hookah. The glass part, the base.

[E]

The base of the hookah part.

[A]

It was a whole section. A young lady dropped something when the security went to go pick it up. Allegedly, Boosie. Because conveniently, he's not in the. You can't see him in the video because there's a video of it. Oh, there's a video of him.

[E]

Oh, God damn. I. With Boozy.

[C]

I. Nah, nobody needs to get Hit like that.

[A]

He said I with Boosie.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

Oh, nah, nah.

[E]

Anyway, what's a mistake?

[A]

Here's Boosie saying that it's a cash grab fans, man. I'm okay, bro. Grab, man.

[D]

Yo, it's a money grab, but it's

[B]

what you go through as an entertainer.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

They just trying to get something. Booy. I feel you, dog.

[G]

The facts of the case have come out. I mean, we in court now, okay? With Bo.

[D]

Stop it.

[A]

You just said I'm a 50 year

[B]

old man security in the first place, man.

[A]

Now you about to rap.

[B]

Done 1718 years for aggravated arm robbery with a gun. He just got caught at the border a couple years back smuggling women in out the country. He already got caught for the federal paper.

[D]

It ain't snitching, but it's up.

[C]

Just attacking credibility here, that's all.

[D]

Yeah, it ain't snitching, but it's up.

[B]

Money grab bro contacted my P.O.

[G]

i let him know what was going on on.

[A]

Okay,

[B]

But to all my fans, all my.

[A]

All my family, you know, I ain't

[B]

even tell my family about this. This was going on.

[G]

You know,

[B]

I'm all right though, man. It's just life. Life be lifing, bro.

[F]

That's true.

[B]

Life be life.

[E]

Enough of boost.

[A]

Hold your head enough a boozy.

[E]

No, it doesn't say why he hit

[A]

the nigga and it doesn't even say that he hit the nigga. He says the truth will come out. He said what all the criminals be saying. Yo, life be lifein'. To my fans, thank you for the

[E]

support during this dark.

[C]

He's saying what all innocent men say is, yo, the truth will come out.

[G]

Truth will come out.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? I can't speak on it. It is a cash grab. I'm the famous one. So nigga trying to put it on me.

[E]

But.

[C]

But the truth will come out and y' all will understand, right?

[B]

So it's possible.

[A]

He ain't cash grab for boosie. Must be like surrogate for me. We just don't know what shit. We just don't know what shit means at all. A cash grab.

[E]

You can't hit the nigga over the head with a glass hookah bottle in

[A]

the club in front of a million witnesses and then cause a cash grab.

[D]

Sorry, Boosie.

[E]

And some things life be life in

[A]

is not acceptable for.

[B]

He might have not did it.

[A]

It's not a cash grab spot.

[C]

He might have not if I didn't do it. It if I wasn't the one to hit him. It's my section or something. But if I'm not the one that hit him, but because I'm famous, I get sued or I get attached to that.

[G]

Is a cash Allen Iverson security beat the out of somebody. They sue Allen Iverson for man three, $400,000.

[D]

It's cash grab.

[A]

This whole pod is like an escape room sometimes. Yes. If he didn't do it, then it's a cash grab.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Did you see him do it in the video?

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

I'm looking at the video now, I think. Did you see him do it in the video?

[C]

I did.

[A]

Prove it. Well, on this podcast, I ain't going

[E]

to the court of law with it,

[C]

but I'm rocking with Boosie, man.

[B]

Do it, man. That.

[A]

There you go.

[E]

If he didn't do it, then why

[A]

is he telling us that the guy shouldn't have been a security guard at

[G]

the establishment in the first place speaking to us.

[E]

And that's why I'm calling him a rat mark Credibility. Because why are you telling us he

[A]

wasn't supposed to be security?

[E]

His record.

[A]

No, and it's a valid point. It's a valid point if you hit a nigga.

[G]

Huh?

[A]

I think that's a super valid point.

[D]

But mention the niggas prior cases and prior convictions ain't ratting. Cause he already got convicted. You ain't putting him in.

[A]

It's ratting because he's not supposed to be a security at this club. This person and his record is not. Shouldn't be tasked with the protection of other people he shouldn't have been in the first place. He didn't de escalate a situation properly.

[C]

If I'm planning on countersuing the club, I'm gonna say that.

[A]

Oh, good point.

[D]

Well, that's why he said it. That's what he's saying.

[A]

That's why he's saying it.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

So yeah, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to do.

[A]

Boosie. Hey.

[B]

And the only thing I know is true in this situation from what I know about Boosie.

[E]

There you go.

[C]

What'd you say?

[D]

I said the only thing I know

[B]

that's true for sure. In this whole show, I seen a get smacked with a hook.

[C]

What I know about booy hookers is like the least of the problems. If he got a problem with you in the club.

[G]

Yeah, got to be. If with the hookah, you could have got hit with the bazooka.

[E]

What the you talking about?

[G]

You could have got hit with that

[E]

50 on top of your.

[A]

Hey, Lucky. That was the little mini hookah. If that was the big base with

[E]

the big glass at the bottom.

[G]

Could have had a watermelon upside his head.

[A]

That could have been worse than the other he was talking about. It could have been.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

The I'm talking about is. Could have killed him.

[G]

Love 66.

[C]

That's what I'm talking about. I'm shout. Shout out to boy, bro.

[A]

Y' all be grown adults co signing some of this on a podcast.

[D]

That's not co sign.

[A]

Y' all serious? Y' all serious Crazy. Y' all serious out the fun and then fun out serious.

[D]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[G]

You're welcome.

[A]

Boosley. I think you did it.

[E]

I was just keeping a buck.

[D]

Now that's ratting.

[E]

That ain't ratting. I. I think that he did that.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

I'm looking at the footage. You can't see his face.

[H]

Yeah.

[G]

You can't even see I'm innocent.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

It's almost like he's not new at crime.

[E]

Yo, listen. Almost like it's a pro controller cameras.

[C]

All I'm saying is the. That wrapped the line that said the judge said, we got you on six bodies in two attempts. And I said, sir, you're lying. Cuz. I don't do attempts. I'm not going to think that man hit you over the head with a

[E]

hooker in the club.

[C]

He didn't. Lied about it and lied about it. That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[G]

Me too.

[D]

Maybe he's grown.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I seen him do it.

[G]

Life be life.

[C]

Life and life do be lifeing.

[F]

That's true.

[A]

So that part true. Life be lifeing is a phrase for when you being overwhelmed by life, not when you overwhelming life.

[E]

Life or lies.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

Don't know what that person might have did.

[C]

Life is life.

[G]

And.

[C]

Yeah, get out.

[B]

My section.

[C]

Supposed to be here.

[A]

Who wants to tell 38 special parks? You want to do it?

[F]

What?

[A]

38 special says that Jadakiss is ducking Smart Smoke from him. Said they did a song together where he had the best verse.

[F]

He did.

[A]

Kiss acknowledged that. Yo, you killed that verse. Yada, yada, yada. And ever since then, he's been trying to get a record done with Kiss and he's. He's. Kiss has gone cold. No response. Even though Kiss has responded now on the Internet.

[E]

He has. He has.

[C]

What he say?

[A]

You high on shrooms.

[G]

You must have some shrooms.

[A]

You high on shrooms. Which is the same thing I said I was conflicted with this one too. I'm torn between rapper Joe and podcaster Joe.

[F]

I don't think that Jadakiss is ducking the smoke, but I think it's fun for Special to say that he's ducking the smoke.

[C]

Yeah. What's wrong with that? Even though I don't think it's wrong

[A]

if you actually want the verse or not. Yes.

[F]

Now you want or not?

[C]

You want it or not? No, I don't think it's wrong if

[F]

you want the verse.

[C]

Because now that builds fans that be

[G]

the motivation to bring him over.

[C]

But we did that shit to Fab when he wouldn't do the record. Remember the time Titans and we bullied to a bunch of people to do the record. Sometimes the. The. Sometimes you need a little extra if he's been chasing. No, I'm specifically speaking about at this point where it wasn't happening.

[B]

The report matters though.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

I'm so now.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

So, so, so Special and Kiss might not have the rapport that Joe and Fab had. So Fab might feel motivated because it's coming from Joe. If I'm Kiss and I gave you a record, first of all, I don't have to give you a verse, period.

[F]

He didn't give him a record.

[B]

No, I'm saying he got on a record with Spesh and Benny.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Right.

[B]

I don't have to do that.

[C]

Correct.

[B]

Let's just say my relationship is really with Benny. And that's the reason why you even got the verse, period, for that record. Now let's say, say you come back with your own records. Maybe I don't like the records you send to me. Maybe that's the reason why I ain't jump on it. Maybe. Maybe there's other reasons why I didn't get on it. For you to go this route.

[D]

Route.

[B]

When no one ever in history has ever said Kiss is running from a verse.

[F]

See, now we're back to serious and out fun shit.

[D]

Yeah, okay, cool.

[F]

Like he's just trying to go him

[E]

into getting a verse.

[F]

Like there's nothing wrong with that.

[C]

It's no different to me than when Alby sat up here and said Meek was ducking him. Like, is Meek really? Do I think actually ducking? Do I think Kiss is actually ducking? No, but let me just throw that out there. Instead of using, hey, I would like to rap with you. It's just a way to do it.

[B]

It's just a fly way to matters.

[D]

Like you you can't say Kiss is ducking us. Like, certain.

[B]

You can't say that about certain in hip hop. You should not say that about.

[C]

I don't take.

[B]

Kiss would be one.

[D]

It doesn't seem like he took it that serious.

[F]

Yeah, Yeah.

[D]

I don't think serious.

[F]

They might have a rapport, too, where they be talking and texting and they both are MCs of the cloth. True. And they're just talking shit.

[B]

Possible.

[A]

What is the likelihood that you think Special gets diverse?

[C]

High.

[F]

Decently high.

[C]

High.

[A]

65% or high.

[F]

Maybe more than that.

[C]

80.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

I think he gets the verse.

[A]

He go, what you think he. Hell, no.

[F]

He get

[B]

Kiss up.

[A]

I. I ain't going to hold you.

[E]

I got Kiss up. He blew that one, though. Hey, I'm with y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

That it works sometime.

[A]

And I love both of them.

[B]

I think both of them are fire.

[F]

Of course.

[E]

But it have been different if he was like.

[A]

Like, if he just said, yo, I'm trying to get a record with Kiss.

[E]

I think he's ducking me.

[A]

Cause he know I'm nice.

[E]

That's different from, yo, we did this

[A]

song together where I clearly had the best verse. Kiss heard it and I've been trying to send them records. And now all of a sudden I can't get, like.

[E]

It paints a different. And again, it could be light jokes.

[A]

So I'm not reading too much into it.

[C]

Let's, let's.

[A]

But I don't think.

[C]

But what if he might actually believe that.

[B]

Some things you believe, you don't have to say.

[D]

You don't have to say it to me. If you believe it, you shouldn't say it. I think it's only cool because I don't. I don't think he's just talking, man.

[C]

Do we want our rappers arrogant and. And, and, and like. And like, believing in themselves and thinking or not?

[G]

But if you wanted something out of a.

[A]

Don't arrogant yourself into stupidity.

[B]

We just spoke a whole thing about Max B in. In the Big Daddy Kane.

[E]

Yeah, exactly.

[F]

Just talk on Jadakiss.

[C]

He did not.

[B]

You don't think telling another rapper smoked

[G]

you on a record.

[E]

No, no, no. That you're ducking me because I smoked you on a record.

[B]

I'm not saying it's the same scenario, but there's certain people in the business you do not speak about in a certain way, no matter how dope you. It is. We just had this whole conversation.

[F]

It is.

[E]

I don't think Imani is far off.

[F]

That is very far off.

[E]

He didn't disrespect. That is fucking Jupiter.

[C]

He did not disrespect him. Yes. There are people in hip hop that you should not speak about with a disrespectful tone. I don't think him sitting there saying, yo, I got on the record with him and I cleaned him up, and now he don't want to rap.

[B]

With the implication that a nigga like Kiss, who's been known to be top five, dead, alive to a lot of people, the implication that he's ducking anybody is disrespect.

[A]

It's smut on my name.

[E]

Yeah, we just.

[C]

We just stop think y' all reading way too much.

[E]

And it could be.

[B]

It could be joke. They could have the rapport. So we saying it's because we don't really know their relationship.

[E]

No, I'm saying this because I've got punched in the face over this same shit.

[D]

It's not the same shit.

[F]

You shit on somebody.

[D]

Yes.

[E]

Wait, what is the difference?

[D]

Yeah, it's different.

[E]

I read a list and said, I think I'm better than all these people.

[C]

You didn't just say, I think I'm better, Joe.

[F]

A lot more shit than that.

[C]

You did not just say that. You shitted on some of the names on that list.

[D]

You went a little crazy.

[C]

That performative shit is what got you punched in the face.

[A]

I was going crazy, but at the root of it,

[D]

that's why you need niggas around.

[A]

I don't know if 38 special gets that verse.

[C]

I think he get it.

[F]

I bet he get it.

[A]

And listen, I wanted a verse for a long time from Jadakiss and didn't get it. Like, a long time. And you be left there to sit with your thoughts and figure out why you didn't get it. You won't never know why it's not coming. So even if it is going to come because Jadakiss did eventually come and do the verse. But while until that verse comes, you stuck with, well, why haven't I got this verse? Is it the song? Is it some tension that we had? Do he have a problem that I don't know about?

[E]

Or did I say something stupid on

[A]

the Internet one time that affected a nigga more than. Than more than I think it did?

[C]

Or the just ain't want to do

[F]

the verse, bro, or he's busy or A billion reasons.

[E]

Let's take it past that. Let's take it past that. He said what he said. Let's say I'm rolling with y'.

[A]

All. Jadakiss is doing a verse.

[E]

Is that the rapper you want to have come over here like with an agenda?

[C]

Absolutely.

[E]

Thousand.

[A]

They just talking.

[D]

If you.

[E]

If you think I know Smash, he's from.

[F]

He wants someone to come on his

[C]

track and rap well and I just clinked you up.

[E]

Up. Yes.

[C]

I want the best of you.

[D]

He might think aame to aame.

[E]

He's still better.

[A]

I mean, wouldn't you.

[D]

Wouldn't you want somebody's aame?

[F]

I'm asking on your record you would want someone to come in and smoke

[C]

or do you want them to mail it in?

[A]

Listen to me. Yes is the answer. I want somebody's aame. I'm not going to provoke the person that I'm already worried about their aame.

[C]

Why you think he's worried about.

[A]

I'm not making. No, that's all right. Never mind.

[C]

Listen, I'm not trying to.

[E]

Never mind.

[C]

I'm speaking from a confident ass rapper like Special who just got on a record with you. And admittedly by you, I got the better.

[A]

Because you want the verse for a reason.

[C]

Yeah, because I want to rap with you. I'm still trying to.

[E]

No, it's cuz we have a.

[A]

A different level of respect for Jada.

[E]

Of course.

[B]

If Kiss is walking in, I want

[C]

to rap with the best of the best.

[B]

If Kiss is walking in to do the record with. With Benny and Special and his intention is I'm going in to give my a verse to help. I'm not going in here looking to kill. I'm not going in here. But you in your mind are looking.

[C]

This is my chance. Cool. If Kiss is on this, I'm going to kill Benny.

[B]

A Special verse on there was the best verse. It was got that and both people acknowledged it. Now moving forward, if your whole thing is now every time I link with you, I'm trying to show that I'm gonna keep killing you.

[E]

Kiss him like should I keep.

[A]

I'm consistent and don't give somebody that you have a healthy respect for more ammo. Right. Like let's bring it to basketball.

[E]

I think the spurs are gonna be great. I would be pissed, pissed if one

[A]

of them Nicks said something stupid and put it on the front page of the paper. Put a battery in the nigga to

[E]

give guys that I'm already focused on more reason. That's all I'm saying. This is going to be fun and

[C]

friendly and this provides.

[E]

That's a little different angry jadakiss next to 38 spec.

[A]

What?

[E]

On my 38 specific how it turns out.

[D]

I'm saying a lot of people don't think like that. They like.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

I think all rappers have a list

[A]

of who to make angry and who not.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

But I've heard you tell. Say up here, you had that you never worry about anybody in the booth. That you never worried that somebody was going to kill you on a verse. That you never. You know, I mean. And I believe you. I'm saying he might feel the same way. So even Angry Kiss might just make it a good competition.

[A]

Worrying about it and. And provoking it are not the same.

[F]

And all this is great for the record if it does come.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Now I want to tune in and see who smoke do.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Which I love that. This is hip hop, y'.

[E]

All.

[F]

What are we doing?

[A]

Facts. That's.

[B]

That's peace.

[A]

You losing your hip hop corner.

[F]

You're losing yours. You sound like a hoe.

[E]

What are you talking about?

[G]

How do you say I believe all rappers have a do not make angry list. And you've made all the angry.

[F]

Word. That was your whole.

[E]

Yeah.

[G]

Or you attempted to make all the angry.

[B]

You see how that turned out?

[G]

It don't matter.

[C]

Don't matter what?

[G]

How did it turn out that can rap?

[E]

No, no.

[B]

It turned out where a lot of the he probably could have sat on a record with and demolished in a proper way ended up not wanting to

[D]

do records with him.

[A]

That's where I went wrong. I was talking to a lot of that. And I guess that's kind of why I'm saying I was talking to a lot of that in my heart. I did want to work with.

[E]

Who did you.

[B]

There's a better way to showcase.

[A]

I wanted to work with.

[F]

Who did you fire up meth?

[D]

Who?

[F]

Who did you fire on that? You wish you didn't because you didn't get the record done. Because I feel like there's not too many people that you didn't collaborate with with that you wish you would have. I could be wrong about that though.

[A]

I said shit a lot about most of the Def Jam veterans when I had a hard time getting the project out. And at that time, that was everybody. So that was dmx.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

That was fucking disturbing the piece. That whole. That was. That was everybody. I said something about the fucking St. Lunatics. That Dead's my Nelly shit. I was just talking too much about shit.

[F]

Gotcha.

[A]

I wasn't gonna get no. No big time producer or no big time rapper because I was emotional, just talking shit, saying how I feel, thinking it all thrived on the spirit of competition.

[D]

There's no you Red man record.

[C]

Right?

[A]

No.

[G]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

It couldn't be a me and Red man record because me and met the man. It couldn't be a me and Ray Qu Quan record. It couldn't be a.

[B]

It just.

[A]

It just couldn't be in my kids verse. It took a long time. Yeah it took yeah it took a long time. I had to do reparations with that I had to do reparations with Hov. I had to do reparations with Banks.

[E]

I had Wayne.

[A]

I had to.

[E]

I had to have a lot of you had to fix a lot of conversations because rappers are more sensitive than

[A]

we will ever know. So again a 38 special day could be hahaha Kiki.

[E]

It could be all in fun.

[A]

So I ain't gonna deep dive on

[E]

that but when it happens just remember

[A]

I said why would we make Jadakiss mad?

[C]

Let me ask you a question Because

[F]

I want some heat.

[C]

Let's just say. Let's say the record happens just just for this conversation. What if get them again.

[A]

Oh then oh then we got then we could talk Then we could talk

[E]

because don't say nothing when you had

[A]

the best verse when I came through for a few feature True don't do that.

[E]

That's a good we know how we know how features go sometimes don't feel like it.

[C]

We don't know.

[E]

Yeah I came through. My namesake is is what's going to

[A]

get this done but now if I come through and it's one of them

[E]

where the beat is telling you what

[A]

time it is and you and you get me and you go out there

[E]

and say something about it.

[A]

Nothing. Nobody.

[B]

That's the thing about the Kiss too Kiss to be the staple. He is and he still jump on everybody.

[A]

He do.

[B]

No matter what it don't.

[C]

It ain't even just mainstream.

[B]

It's never lazy. It's never gonna be some for to lean into that in this moment now. You know what I do see Kiss maybe at some point giving 38 the record but it ain't gonna be the record you think you gonna get me on. It is gonna It'll have to be one of them.

[A]

I'm gonna kill you now.

[E]

Yeah. I'm either now I'm waiting for the fastball up the plate.

[A]

Yeah yeah so you can send me

[E]

a record as you might really want me on some introspective oh we can

[A]

Nah I'm squeezing squatting I'm gonna learn

[E]

your see and that's the other thing

[A]

and again they could be play play

[E]

Kiki like like Method man when he pulled me to the side and Jones be like yo everybody love you and

[A]

everybody with you but you just saying. You just saying going renegade.

[E]

Nobody would say I've stayed in enough

[A]

hotels with the locks to be able to speak to how they feel which is yo, don't nobody say no mother locks.

[C]

That's a fact.

[A]

Again they can be friends. They could be friends. So haha Kiki. But for the rest of us, you

[E]

we can't just say nothing about can't do that chic and styles and kiss.

[B]

That's a fact.

[E]

That's like a sacred thing in hip hop.

[A]

Oh agreed.

[C]

So but I just think what he said wasn't smart and maybe I'm a

[E]

now you wasn't far off there. I'm thinking about some of that I

[G]

said during the nobody I like nothing about woo. That was blasphemy for to be saying

[E]

and should always be bl.

[F]

I also think it's important to note that Special is not like a 20 year old kid rapping. He's been around for a while I'm sure like I said there's probably some report even if there's not there's enough probably respect between the two of them where it's not he's not looking him as some punk like when you were talking a lot of your you were 20 something 40 year old rappers. They're like who the is this kid to be running around talking I like

[B]

38 films like that. I'm not mad at that. I just think there's a better way to get it off instead of sitting at the interview and saying it like that. But either way if we get the record that'll be fire.

[E]

Yeah

[B]

that's peace.

[C]

That's peace.

[A]

They both show up to the studio on their best day. What happens?

[F]

It's a good fight.

[D]

A good fight.

[F]

It's a good fight.

[A]

I ain't gonna stop it. I like Dirty as best too.

[B]

I like him a lot.

[A]

We gonna ruin parks. Come on, move on. Come on.

[E]

That's key is my man too.

[B]

Like I've worked with Special Rochester like I have.

[E]

Hey Special, if I come out of retirement I'm coming to you for a verse too. Nigga don't hold my little podcast takes against me. I just think it's so nice.

[A]

Somebody's got fire beats some niggas you leave alone.

[C]

Listen man, a focus kiss when he if he decides to.

[F]

Oh that's fact.

[C]

We ain't gonna sit here and play like. Not the on special. Nothing. But if KISS is zeroed in.

[B]

But it's not on another by saying that person there has enough steak with us to. To not be with.

[C]

Yeah, but.

[E]

But on the other side, it should every.

[A]

That's the MC for real. It should be on your list of barbecue grill one of these. I ain't gonna hold you.

[F]

There we go.

[E]

That's a show. I know.

[C]

God damn it.

[E]

It should be let hov shoot at everybody. I want. Oh, I hate this hip hop.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I may even retire all hip hop talk if that's what I got to do.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Shoot at him, shoot at him, shoot at him.

[E]

When we going to grow up? No.

[C]

Hip hop was born based out of competition.

[E]

It's going to be there forever.

[C]

No, it can't. No, it can't.

[F]

Shout out Special.

[C]

It tried to change for a minute when all these niggas was Kumbaya and we'd be best friends and we hated the shit. It tried to change when everybody was

[A]

glad that era's over.

[C]

So let's not say we want it to change. We got it back. Now there's some people out there that actually want to be the best and want to prove they the best. Let them do it.

[A]

That's exactly what he said. I'm with him there.

[B]

I ain't with him, but it's cool.

[A]

Yeah. What are you going to do about it?

[F]

I especially like hearing people that can rap well talk. It'd be different. We talk about someone that can't rap well.

[B]

Which I feel the same way.

[E]

If.

[D]

If.

[B]

If Jadakiss got on the record back in his early start.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I'm not saying 38 is in his early start before a lot of mainstream. It's early start if. If Kiss got on the record with a Kumo D or Marley Mar.

[D]

I'm just saying.

[B]

I'm just saying if he got on a record with. It's not.

[F]

It is.

[B]

If you got on a record with somebody of a certain generation.

[E]

He was killing. I was on the edge of my seat right then.

[D]

He. Matt McClun. No, this is.

[A]

Well, y'. All.

[D]

Matt McClung.

[E]

All right. I don't have anything else that we

[A]

need to get to. Even though I did have a few good questions here. But I ain't going. I see your part of the month. Losing his life over there in the park.

[E]

I'm good.

[A]

Look at your part.

[E]

Look at y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Look at y'. All's part of the month over there. Snoring his face, drool, sleep. Looking at his clock, got a pee. Holding his UTI together.

[A]

Fuck out of here.

[D]

Let's do some more topics. What you got?

[A]

Oh, shit. Last one, last one. Because I want to get your opinion. I know you have to leave if you are Dolan of the Knicks, because I don't know if y' all saw it was going around last week that he would be inviting Donald Trump. Trump to the Finals, to Madison Square Garden. My question to y', all, if you're Dolan, should you be doing that?

[E]

Or is there a world where you

[A]

could tell Donald Trump no?

[F]

No, you could, but I don't think. I don't like. I hate Donald Trump, but if I'm the owner of the Knicks, I would want him at the Knicks game.

[C]

I think why Donald Trump is a New York staple. And the President, I. I would. And I'm. I don't with him. I do understand billionaires and all. Like, I also don't know if Dolan

[F]

doesn't fuck with him those types of ways.

[D]

He does. There's a gap between banning him and inviting him.

[A]

And I'm not. I'm definitely not talking about banning.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, you could just. If he shows up.

[H]

Cool.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

This is what I'm saying to y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

This is what I'm saying, y', all, because we're in agreeance. Dolan and Trump are probably like the two peas in the pod to two

[G]

billionaires from New York.

[A]

Yeah, two billionaires. Trump has done the Garden mad time. That's not what I'm saying. They are friends, so he's supposed to invite them. And if he comes. How could you turn it down? What I'm saying to y' all is coming off of the Jackson Dart debacle, knowing how some players would be feeling about Trump, and knowing that you haven't won in 53 years and you haven't been in 26, 27 years. Trump is such a force that it could be a distraction to your team. So because of your friendship, do you say, fuck the distraction. This is my man. It's the President. I'm letting him come. Or is a championship and your first time sniffing one somewhat important?

[C]

Let me ask you a question real quick, real fast. In your example, is Dolan inviting him or Trump saying, hey, I want to come to the game?

[E]

Both.

[C]

No, because that matters.

[A]

Trump.

[E]

That matters.

[A]

Dolan invited him, and Trump is saying,

[C]

dolan extended the invite.

[A]

All right. Yes, he did.

[D]

You can't do that.

[A]

That's why I'm asking.

[D]

You can't invite. That's what I think. You do that. If Trump wants to show up, fine. You can even secretly be like, yo, come through. But you can't extend an invite to him because it's so polarizing and divisive.

[G]

Yeah, I think it's.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You don't get mad if the President shows up.

[B]

Takes away from the moment.

[D]

You're not. It's a distraction.

[G]

And. And I think this, this would be a old white man.

[A]

Which one do.

[E]

Do.

[G]

A old white man not recognizing

[C]

how

[G]

polarizing and how offensive some people find the shit that Donald Trump is doing. And I think a lot of white people out here, especially older, wealthy white people, don't really realize how serious it is, some of the shit that he's doing and saying. So I think it's just you not going accordingly.

[A]

I mean, this is on the.

[G]

And you don't want that pressure on your team that's never been here before. You want them mentally prepared. You don't want any mental distractions or any social distractions pulling away from the, their, their, their readiness for the games.

[A]

That's my main.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

Like, yo, that's. You don't want that. Like, because now somebody put a microphone in front of Cat.

[C]

You gotta ask them, how do you

[G]

feel about Donald Trump showing up? You don't even want him focused on that. You want this basketball ready, reading, watching film.

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

Making sure he's eat well rested, making sure he eating good. All of that stuff.

[B]

Use the morale of the state stadium.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The Garden of the Garden.

[G]

Not of the Garden of the Garden, but you could definitely lose. You could lose the focus of your team.

[C]

Wait, wait, I get what you said. You're not losing them around the Garden.

[B]

No, what I'm saying is that at that point, they're more focused on that energy than they would be on the actual.

[G]

And I'm not gonna say in the Garden. You, you still gotta think New York City is. Even with all the millions of dollars and billions of dollars Mandami won. And it's a progressive. Semi progressive.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

But then they also got along, so it's kind of weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

Mondami and Trump, when they had the situation like. Yeah. So it's weird. I don't know.

[A]

I call that getting along. When they sat next to each other and gave each other compliments and beat each other up.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Politics.

[A]

Yeah, that's politics. That was them.

[F]

But this is all politics that we're talking about, about

[C]

who y' all think gonna be in the Garden.

[A]

At the game.

[F]

Bunch of rich.

[A]

Everybody that's usually there.

[C]

Everybody. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

[A]

Naturally tough decision to make if you don't. All I'm saying, winning, winning should be

[D]

to be tough decision.

[G]

If I'm do.

[D]

And I want my man there. I, I call him on a little

[A]

like come in and sweet.

[G]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't advise.

[D]

I wouldn't publicly invite.

[G]

Publicly invite him. I would not publicly invite.

[F]

Oh, I agree with that.

[G]

Publicly invite them are saying y'.

[C]

All. I could care less what y' all think.

[D]

An alternative is to ban him. Right. Cuz if, if Trump comes on his own, you can't be like, you can't come.

[C]

I bought a ticket.

[G]

President of the United States.

[F]

I also think you'd have to be in a suite.

[A]

Right.

[F]

For security reasons. I've never seen a president courtside.

[C]

Every time you see him, he's up in a.

[A]

Everybody talk over each other right now, but somebody answering, no, they said they did.

[C]

Yeah.

[G]

Bill Clinton and Obama have both been courtside.

[A]

I can see Trump saying courtside.

[D]

I don't think he wanted to do otherwise. Yeah, he not especially if he found out Obama did it.

[F]

I don't think he was.

[B]

He not getting no sweet. He going right in the front.

[D]

I don't think so.

[C]

You think so?

[B]

Right next to Ben Stillerman.

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

What you do, Trump? Sit in front of you?

[B]

Move the little toupee out the way?

[A]

That's a good question, actually.

[F]

That's a great question.

[G]

You shake his hand.

[D]

It make for a great story.

[A]

He turn around brown.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Big fan of the show.

[C]

Heard about your show.

[E]

Big fan.

[G]

Joey.

[E]

Joey, I like your.

[C]

We can do something together.

[D]

Joey, you really want to shake his hand?

[C]

No.

[D]

What would you do?

[E]

Extend the handshake.

[D]

He reached his hand out.

[A]

All right, let me pause this music.

[D]

I'm Donald Trump.

[F]

Your chain's getting caught up.

[A]

I'm not putting my hand nowhere near that.

[D]

You just look at him, you nod. What do you do?

[A]

I'm not doing that.

[D]

Okay, let's see.

[A]

I don't think that I would be in this situation, but if it were to happen. I have seen too many people go through long term trouble just because they've been seen on camera giving him a dap. They just tore Guy Fury's ass up. The chef. From what he did at the fucking fight. The ufc, shit, it was somebody else they tore up because he just is giving a dap at the unit.

[D]

It's hard in the moment, not to is all I'm saying.

[G]

That's true.

[D]

It's hard to do something.

[A]

Unless it ain't.

[E]

Unless it ain't.

[B]

You could just stand or not just ignore it.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Dapp him with the glizzy hand.

[A]

Why don't we dab a nigga? I got out. I think you feel about black people. Why do I have to extend my black hand to you?

[D]

I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying I don't know what to do. That's hard. I've been in that situation.

[F]

I would be impressed if you did not.

[D]

Yeah, you would be a hero if you turned down a dap from Donald Trump.

[B]

How quick you think you get removed?

[A]

It's funny. The first thing that came to mind was leave the game, but I ain't doing that.

[G]

I don't know.

[C]

Crazy as hell.

[D]

Do you shake his hand?

[A]

Whoa.

[G]

I don't think so, yo. I don't think so.

[C]

It's a.

[G]

It's a. It's a conversation. But I. I don't think so.

[D]

In a real time, I think most people would end up. I'm not saying you wouldn't, but most people wouldn't. Unless you haven't thought about it before. Would just would do. I've been in situations where I've shaken people's hands and afterward regretted it just because it's.

[B]

I think because it's so public, there's a chance that you might.

[D]

You so raising how disrespectful it is not to shake somebody hand when they stick it out. It's hard for me to. Not even on CNN when, like, the racist cop would shake his hand. I stopped eventually, but the first couple times he stuck his hand out, I shook it. No white boy Harry Howe. I would shake his hand because I didn't. I didn't know no better. Like I didn't in the moment. I wasn't thinking about.

[H]

About all the time. What we talking about fiction? Are we talking about fact?

[E]

Yo, the next game is tonight. Go, Nick. You know what time it is? Listen, man, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you Ado farewell Audio.

[A]

Yo.

[E]

Cerebra dirchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long. Goodbye. A simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last, but certainly not least, what the is this?

[A]

I don't remember what? Oh yeah.

[E]

The baddies are insecure. The station women want to travel. When the clothes minded women want you

[A]

to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. I lost my train of thought trying to remember where Classic man is. That just popped in my brain randomly.

[E]

I think about Classic man randomly sometimes

[A]

because he came up the La Marina and put a movie on and all the was on him. So ever since then. Yeah.

[C]

Look at your dad when he was

[E]

running around with the suit.

[F]

A couple dope albums too.

[D]

Yeah, I really like like his music.

[E]

He was all right. I don't know. He just kind of disappeared. Anyway, anyway. What y' all on this week? What y' all on this week? Anything fun. Anything fun?

[D]

Game. The game.

[F]

The game.

[B]

Go Nicks.

[D]

Going to New York bars with my spurs gear on.

[A]

Oh, God. Jesus, man, go with a jerk. Oh, get a jersey. You saying what Jersey?

[D]

No.

[G]

Come on.

[D]

We all in on the sports.

[G]

Harper's home team.

[C]

So is Cat.

[B]

So is Cat.

[G]

No, I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about New Jersey. I'm talking about.

[D]

Oh, okay, okay. His management team.

[A]

Are you talking about what you know, your sports agent. Is he still running right now?

[C]

No, he is.

[D]

Home team.

[C]

You gotta represent. You got one in the finals that.

[A]

Listen, man.

[E]

And

[G]

catch Brunson on that island, then what?

[D]

We're not doing this.

[G]

Get your little and one ref. Get your little ass out of 13.

[A]

Shut up. 13 years old. I know he's a nice 13, but he is still 13 and he's a rookie. Be respectful. Stick to the rivers and the lakes that you used to. It's Jalen Brunson. I'm rooting for Harper. I like a lot of the Spurs. I like just not now. I really like them.

[G]

I don't like all of them.

[E]

Not the year get.

[D]

Let's get this one off.

[A]

Yeah, I don't want disrespecting them.

[G]

I like them cuz they. They really remind me of like the hood team like that don't give a about nothing y' all talk about.

[F]

I grew up a Spurs fan. I'm rooting for the Knicks.

[G]

Like yo, we.

[C]

We grew we out here. We. That's how I feel about the Knicks. The Knicks don't care about nothing y' all say. Y' all talking about.

[G]

Go Nick.

[A]

Go Nicks.

[C]

Yeah, go Nicks.

[A]

When everyone's confused, just look at your current part of the mall right now. Time to go. I can see. Look at his face.

[E]

I'M good. Listen, man, y' all hold it down out there. We'll be back, same time, same place. Hopefully, you've enjoyed this.

[D]

Sa.

[H]

I'm from the web and nitty era.

[D]

It's the network.