Episode 935 | "No Reason To Be Humble"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 935 | "No Reason to Be Humble"

Date: June 6, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Network: The Joe Budden Network
Guests/Co-Hosts: Mark Lamont Hill, Parks, Ish, Mona, and others

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the crew's unique blend of sports fandom (heavy on the Knicks and NBA Finals), irreverent life commentary, music updates, and cultural debates. Titled "No Reason to Be Humble," the episode explores New York pride, personal accountability, navigating friendships and public figures, and spicy pop culture hot takes. The show's tone remains characteristically candid, sarcastic, and fun, mixing humor with thoughtful debate.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. NBA Finals and Knicks Fever

• Knicks Uniting NYC:
  • Joe and the crew celebrate the Knicks’ Finals run and its effect on NYC’s spirit ([13:10], [27:44], [28:06]).
    • “The Knicks have managed to bring the city together. Man, it feels great.” – Joe Budden [13:10]
    • “They got TVs out in front of bodegas. Bringing the community together.” – Joe Budden [13:10]
• Emotional Impact:
  • Joe opens up about crying over the Knicks’ run ([27:43], [30:47]):
    • “The Knicks in the Finals for me has just been a timeline damn near of my life… it’s emotional.” – Joe [27:43]
• Post-Game Analysis & Resilience:
  • In-depth breakdown of game one, including strategic mistakes, coaching, and the youth/poise dynamic ([32:17]–[36:47]).
  • Mark: “Knicks also look very tough and resilient, which is what a championship team is.” [32:46]
• Spurs vs. Knicks Rivalry:
  • Playful ribbing between Mark (Spurs fan) and Joe over fandom allegiances, humility, and trash talk ([18:22], [19:00]).
    • “Yo, the thing about humility, give me a reason to be humble. I don’t feel like being humble. The f*** you talk about.” – Joe [19:21]

2. Friendship & Accountability

• Betting & Paying Debts:
  • Ongoing jokes about missed bets, collecting debts, and the meaning of accountability among friends ([05:18], [10:02], [12:01]).
  • Quote: “Don’t talk about accountability to me…” – Ish [10:46]
• Marital Humor:
  • Mark on handling the home while his wife’s away; jokes about lotion and laundry ([01:13], [03:39]).
    • “My wife’s out of town… the little bit of care I did put into how I look was ‘cause she was there.” – Mark [02:15]
• Work-Life, Jealousy, and Social Media:
  • Banter on watching spouses’ Insta-stories from the beach: “If your wife is fine… what’s the likelihood that nobody is saying, ‘Hey gorgeous, can I buy you a pina colada?’” – Joe [04:27]

3. Pop Culture & Deep Dives

• Trump at the Knicks Game:
  • Discussion on how the Garden crowd will react if Trump attends, and the impact on arena energy ([06:27], [38:18]).
    • “That place ain’t gonna erupt. I think the Knicks are too focused to be distracted by that.” – Joe [39:31]
• Internet Culture:
  • Polymarket & Micro-Betting:
    • Ice explains betting site "Polymarket" and the broader appeal ([08:41]).
  • Viral Paparazzi Moment:
    • KD hiding in bushes from paparazzi: “Nigga, we can see you!” – Joe [43:36]

4. Personal & Social Commentary

• Religion & Authenticity:
  • Playful, yet nuanced, conversation around religious practice, public perception, and holding beliefs sincerely ([39:59]–[41:46], [42:29]).
    • “Muslims, they act like you like committing a fraud. Christians, they be like, ‘I’m not perfect.’” – Mark [42:28]
• Violence in Rap vs. Pedophilia in Culture:
  • Debate on moral boundaries for listening to problematic artists (R. Kelly, Michael Jackson), the difference between real-life actions and lyrical violence ([56:20]–[60:08], [61:22]).
    • “A pedophile is the worst thing you could be in our culture… but some of these artists, allegedly… are literally outlining how they’ve murdered people.” – Ish [60:34]

5. Music Highlights & Reviews

• New Releases:
  • Vince Staples’ “Crybaby,” new Bryson Tiller, Blast’s “Ruin,” new YG, Freddie Gibbs deluxe, upcoming Tiny Desk performances ([99:23]–[105:50]).
• Legends Remembered:
  • Tribute to Peabo Bryson (“Stop the Rain”). Mark details his legacy and impact ([151:52]–[155:57]).
    • “He’s the sound and the voice of love… in some ways, he was the last of a dying breed.” – Mark [151:52]
• Soul Music Debates:
  • Who had the most hits: Freddie Jackson, Roberta Flack, Patti LaBelle? ([158:32]–[168:13])

6. News & Hot Button Discussions

• Ricky Chow Case – Race, Murder, and Community:
  • Detailed analysis of the trial, historical context of Black/Asian relations in urban areas, experiences of racial bias at neighborhood stores, and calls for Black community economic self-reliance ([131:19]–[144:27], [146:48]).
    • “I’m with community justice. I ain’t gonna hold you. The courts could run their business… but y’all can’t just have your business dead smack in the middle of a hood and act like that.” – Joe [144:58]
• Celebrity News:
  • Dame Dash:
    • Discussion of his public “fall from grace,” and the ethics of content platforms profiting off the downfall of Black celebrities ([107:12]–[114:46]).
  • Daphne Joy & Recent Tape:
    • Candid review by Mona and crew about the leaked explicit video, public reaction, and whether you can “turn a ho into a housewife” ([170:32]–[193:59]).
    • “She looks like a lying whore. I’m not calling her that. I don’t know her. That’s just what it looks like on surface and to so many people.” – Ish [187:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joe on Knicks Fandom:

  • “The thing about humility, give me a reason to be humble. I don't feel like being humble!” [19:21]

• Mark on Religion:

  • “Muslims, they act like you like committing a fraud. Christians, they be like, ‘I’m not perfect’... But this is what happens, right?” [42:28]

• On Artists and Morality:

  • “A pedophile is the worst thing you could be in our culture… but some of these artists, allegedly, are literally outlining how they’ve murdered people.” – Ish [60:34]

• Mona on Race Dynamics:

  • “My first interaction with a white person to have like a racial interaction was being bused from North Philly up to Northeast… But before that, my interactions were with Asians that just act like they hated me, even though I frequented their stores.” [134:43]

• On Social Media Impact:

  • “Kids are mean. That would be my number one reason for altering my behavior [with OnlyFans], because kids grow up.” – Joe [187:44]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NBA Finals/Knicks Discussion:
  • [13:10] – [38:00], recurring
• Trump at Finals Debate:
  • [38:18] – [39:33]
• Religion/Authenticity Talk:
  • [39:59] – [43:05]
• Michael Jackson, R. Kelly, and Art vs. Morality:
  • [48:45] – [61:22]
• Music Highlights:
  • [99:23] – [105:50]
  • [151:52] – [166:03] (Peabo Bryson & classic soul)
• Ricky Chow Case & Race Dynamics:
  • [131:19] – [150:08]
• Dame Dash, Public Downfall:
  • [107:12] – [114:46]
• Daphne Joy/OnlyFans/Pop Culture:
  • [170:32] – [193:59]
• Housewife Debate:
  • [189:50] – [193:59]

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Episode Vibe & Character

• Language & Tone:

  • Blunt, playful, irreverent, at times deeply sincere. Intense debates are balanced by plenty of jokes and classic group banter.
  • Longstanding in-jokes and “family business” keep things lively for regular listeners.

• Memes & Moments:

  • Joe’s over-the-top Knicks celebrations, “lotion/laundry/when-your-wife’s-away” stories, group roasting, and Mona’s unfiltered takes stand out.

• Cultural Commentary:

  • Unpack systemic racism, music industry politics, and ethics in both lighthearted and serious ways.

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Final Thoughts

Episode 935 is a perfect snapshot of the Joe Budden Podcast at peak form: wild, unpredictable, deeply connected to its fanbase and its city, but always keeping it real—whether on sports, scandals, or life's biggest questions. Knicks fans and pop culture heads alike will find plenty to enjoy here.

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If you want to jump right to the hottest debates, check out:

• [27:43] – Joe on Knicks emotion
• [39:59] – Religion/Authenticity debate
• [56:20] – Art, morality, R. Kelly, MJ conversation
• [131:19] – Ricky Chow/race in the community
• [170:32] – Daphne Joy, OnlyFans, “can you turn a ho into a housewife?”
• [151:52] – Peabo Bryson tribute

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Mike check, mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two. So glad y' all could be here with us today.

[B]

What's poppin?

[A]

What's poppin?

[C]

Yeah, sir.

[D]

Everything is good, man.

[A]

Good to see y'. All. It's good to see you, too, Mark.

[C]

What are you wearing, man?

[B]

Stupid 90 degree day.

[D]

What do you mean?

[C]

Parks the spurs shirt today.

[D]

I am in full hater mode.

[C]

Oh, I see.

[D]

Full hater mode.

[B]

It can't work.

[A]

What do you get out of this?

[B]

And it don't work when you lost. When they lost, when you got swept by the.

[D]

When they won.

[B]

Oh, I ain't even talk. I ain't even think about that part. That's why I'm telling. We had to shut the fuck up.

[A]

We got lost since April something. This don't work. Your Spurs T shirt.

[D]

My only other option would be to be supportive of my friends and their joy.

[B]

That's not true. No, you got a third one.

[D]

What's that?

[B]

Shut the fuck up.

[A]

Shut up. Shut up and be neutral.

[B]

Shut up and be neutral.

[A]

They should have never gave you the T shirt.

[B]

Press.

[A]

He in there just pressing anything on a goddamn shirt.

[D]

I bought these, man. I do not press NBA apparel. He try to get me locked up. Try to give me another case. I ain't going to lie McNight on my ass.

[A]

And it's. And it's your favorite color?

[D]

Yeah, it's perfect.

[A]

Smoke gray matching the gray. Smoke gray jeans.

[D]

You know what? You in the 90s joint. I just found these. These are new ones. Dead ass.

[B]

They look like all of them.

[D]

They don't. These different. They different shade. Other ones were tiny. That's baggy. Did you see the ones on Tuesday?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Yo, look how white Mark ankle is, yo.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I didn't put no lotion.

[A]

Oh, my socks.

[D]

Okay, so in fairness, my wife is out of town. My wife been out of town for like two weeks. So. What are you looking like that for?

[A]

Cause I'm waiting to hear the relevance.

[D]

Lotion.

[B]

She got a lotion. You nigga. You a newborn.

[A]

What the fuck is he saying? What the fuck you talking about?

[D]

Toddler talk about. No, I'm saying, like, the little bit of care I did put into how

[B]

I look was cause shot.

[A]

It's cause she was there.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Now I got nothing. I still got the kids. So I'm not gonna outside. So I'm just in the house. Ashy lotion.

[B]

No, no, no. Wifey not home. He using the lotion for something else. Oh, he ran out of lotion.

[A]

He does that dry.

[D]

I raw dog that dog.

[A]

He does that dry.

[D]

Ish.

[A]

Does it dry. I do it too much. Crazy.

[B]

That said dry rubber.

[A]

That is hilarious.

[B]

That's crazy, man.

[D]

I just hit the point where.

[B]

So you ain't washed clothes or nothing?

[D]

No, I own 562t shirts and about 74 pair of dark gray jeans. I don't need no, I don't need nothing. You got it? Yeah, no. I'm ready for her to come home though. It's right at that point. She flew to Paris for five days, came home this weekend and then flew right back out to Jamaica. Both for work conferences.

[A]

True.

[D]

Should I be suspicious? Wait a minute.

[A]

As I'm saying it out loud. Sweet. Yeah. As I'm saying it out loud. Sure.

[D]

Should my conferences be like in Spokane, Washington. Right. Hey, hey.

[A]

Click.

[D]

I've been seeing her stories. They she be on the beach, she be outside. But I figure that's like the letter

[B]

that's off day, right?

[D]

Not the teleconference,

[B]

the satellite.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, you stupid.

[D]

Truth is I don't care.

[A]

I'm good. That's like mine without no job. You gotta think of that. You gotta think of shit like that while work conference. Girl, if you don't get work, you

[D]

still what a work conference.

[A]

I wish you would remote pod.

[D]

Remote pod.

[B]

We going to work. We got a conference. Got you. What's how we leaving.

[A]

Imagine that a work conference for five days.

[D]

Yeah, I let it. Get it off.

[A]

And then I gotta be home and take care of the baby.

[D]

Well, that's the part.

[B]

And looking at her insta stories.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

This is on the beach.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Interstory is crazy. She's having a good time. I don't mind having.

[A]

And if your wife is fine, I mean what's the likelihood that nobody is saying, hey gorgeous, or can I buy you a pina colada? What's the likelihood? Nobody saying, you look beautiful. That's a nice sundress. Nobody just want to walk by, just like on the humble, living your life.

[D]

I can live with that. That don't bother me. I ain't got to buy the fees a lot. He work on his mortgage, he can't hit.

[A]

It's A whole bunch of penis.

[B]

My mortgage payment is a whole lot of collateral.

[A]

You got paid yet? Ish.

[B]

Nah, two people paid me.

[A]

Okay. We getting some.

[D]

Did they?

[B]

Did they?

[D]

People who didn't pay you before paid you.

[B]

They paid up.

[C]

How many was it total?

[D]

Yeah, I thought it's only two.

[B]

People sent me May

[D]

this.

[B]

I got. So you good. That is disgusting, bro. And they be having enti. They be mad at me. Why you calling my phone like that? If I had it, you'd have it. Ain't like you ain't gonna get it.

[D]

You.

[B]

You good. I'm with them.

[D]

Oh, yeah, they. They listen to the show.

[B]

Yeah. They think, oh, this dumb. Telling them I'm rich and millionaires and all that.

[A]

Blames everything wrong in his life.

[B]

No, I don't.

[D]

They.

[B]

They said, yo, the last clip.

[C]

Hold up.

[B]

The last clip was, yo, how many millionaires that.

[D]

Some. Some y' all all got to meet. Y' all said, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So they think that. Well, I think that, too. I crack you with this company, and

[A]

people can watch you and listen to you and come up with their own shit. Everybody's not just so, but I'm on their side.

[D]

Were people paying you rent before you got with dp?

[B]

You were sweet for a long time.

[D]

I think you've been a lick for a while.

[A]

Yeah, man,

[B]

I'm on the titty side, fam. I ain't going to hold. You calling my phone ain't going to make me get it no faster. I ain't got it.

[D]

It might got you. Just do that Trump shit. Just put him out. Oh, shit. Speaking of Trump, yo, he's gonna be at your game, your home game.

[C]

Well, we might see that handshake come to fruition.

[D]

Yes. Oh, not at all.

[A]

I already texted Knicks said don't put me by him. I said, I'm just texting to confirm that Trump will not be seated right in front of me. And they confirmed.

[C]

They said, that's Fat Josie.

[A]

He will not be seated right in front of me. And that got me to thinking. I don't know if the laws do. The laws even allow a sitting president to sit court side of the game.

[C]

That's what I asked.

[B]

That's what it was.

[D]

I don't think it's illegal. I've seen other presidents do it.

[A]

He might not have it.

[B]

I don't know if they were court. I've never seen anybody courtside. I've seen them in the suite. No, I've seen Barack Obama and I've seen Bill Clinton sitting in gen Pop. But I'm sure half of the gen pop was Secret service niggas with regular clothes on.

[A]

Not even about the handshake conversation we were having, which I would not do. The assassination team that want him dead is so bad. They not good at killing. They are not good at killing, yo. And if it's one thing I know about Joe Button, however the Lord calls me, it's gonna be in a real Joe Button way.

[D]

That'd be a hell of a story.

[B]

That would be. I'm tight, yo. Yeah, your boys.

[D]

I don't want that to happen. But the eulogy I would give you,

[A]

man, I'm about to say, you better kill it. Oh, you know you better kill it.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You don't want to happen on Tuesday

[A]

because you didn't do. You didn't do Rick Adelman.

[D]

Look, white people pick the wrong.

[A]

Rest in peace, Rick Adelman.

[D]

Shout out to Rick Adam. I love Rick Adelman.

[A]

White people pick the wrong days to die.

[D]

If you die on a two, on a, on a, on a Monday, you getting the best shit I got. And don't die on Friday morning. It's on impossible, it's over. But if you die on Wednesday morning, that's your wife. I got nothing for you.

[A]

Got you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That's hilarious. Trump. Trump. They announced that Trump is going to be at the game for sure.

[D]

Trump said, I accept the invitation they had. So he made it sound like they want me and I'm gonna give the people what they want.

[B]

They had that shit on Polymarket.

[C]

Yo, what's Polymarket?

[B]

What the fuck is Polymarker?

[D]

What's Poly Market?

[A]

You don't know what Poly Market is either?

[D]

No.

[C]

No reason that ass.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[E]

Oh.

[B]

It's a teachable moment.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Basically it's yes or no shit. And you bet, you, you, you bet on it. Okay, so there was a question. Will Trump appear at the finals? And you can put some money on yes or some money on no, and

[C]

you didn't pick neither.

[B]

Well, I ain't no ice.

[A]

You really a crackhead?

[D]

I have a problem. I'm gonna say this feels like intervention.

[A]

Honestly.

[C]

Yo, call the line. Call the hot look.

[A]

No ice shouldn't really be.

[D]

Call the people. You know why?

[A]

You don't know what that boy doing in his house.

[B]

That's a good point.

[D]

You're right.

[A]

He look like he got the itch. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I love you. I ain't even joking now. You think so on some non pard shit?

[B]

Like, I don't. I don't have the itch.

[A]

Oh, good. I don't have the itch.

[B]

It's a real thing.

[A]

It's a real thing.

[B]

It is a thing.

[D]

So is it, like, how big does the story have to be to get a yes or no?

[B]

Oh, it's all kind of shit on there.

[E]

Like.

[D]

Like, it could be like a Will Ish get paid by June kind of thing.

[B]

I'll put no on that, by the way.

[A]

Definitely.

[B]

Well, it's June now. July, August. We can just stretch that out.

[D]

Click the mix on that. I might call the tennis myself. Look like.

[B]

I think, I think, I think.

[A]

And will you get paid by June?

[D]

By who? You.

[C]

We talking about flipping again?

[A]

I mean, I just want Ish to announce that I'm not doing that shit.

[D]

Oh, how this guy? What this guy do? I didn't even see that one. I told him I'll give him a walk.

[B]

Get off me, bro.

[D]

Move forward. I'll give him a walk.

[A]

I love when you're being funny, creative and whimsical.

[D]

I don't want the money that way. It feels like dirty money.

[A]

But why you be saying like that then? That you.

[B]

Yo, bro, get off.

[A]

Seriously, though, you don't have no accountability. Don't tell me to move forward.

[B]

I don't have accountability. You ain't giving me my money from a water bag.

[A]

You paid.

[D]

You didn't give it to me. You didn't give it to me.

[A]

There are no balances he turned.

[B]

You didn't give it to me. You have me and you have accountability from you.

[A]

You and I have a zero.

[B]

Not somebody else taking care of your dirty deeds. You didn't pay me. I'm ready today. My.

[A]

You didn't me.

[B]

Don't talk about accountability. Don't talk about accountability to me. He said I'm ready. You didn't pay me. Did Joseph Anthony Button Jr. Pay me?

[A]

Yes.

[D]

No, you didn't.

[A]

Ish. Ian can't pay you without my approval.

[B]

That has nothing to do with me.

[A]

You know Ian works for me.

[B]

I said that, Joseph.

[A]

You think that Ian is doing something secretive behind my back?

[D]

My question. He can't.

[A]

You think. You think he paid. You think he paid you his money?

[B]

I don't know what you've been paid.

[A]

You have a zero balance with me. There's no discussion.

[E]

Cool.

[A]

Why do you say shit like I do a backflip?

[B]

Yo, let me ask you.

[A]

I'm not talking about me and you,

[B]

yo, but this ain't a man you fight.

[A]

Shut up.

[D]

Then let him talk then.

[A]

He did. He Brought it up before. And you fucking. And you shrugged him off.

[B]

Anytime you bet me.

[D]

Did you get paid?

[B]

I shut the fuck up if I paid you. Shut up.

[D]

Anytime you.

[B]

I lost a bet to you. Did I pay you? I get.

[A]

But I'm not asking about you don't

[B]

ask about nobody else.

[A]

I'm asking about why you say shit that you know you can't do. And then when people expect to see it, you get mad at them.

[B]

I'm not mad at all.

[A]

So what the hell so hard about just saying? I ain't doing that shit, dog.

[B]

You got it, bro. Again, like I said, until it's something

[A]

as simple as a flip.

[B]

Until I renege on a bet for you, then you bring it up. Until then.

[A]

But we not talking about a bet, we talking about flipping. I don't care if you never pay this nigga.

[D]

Hey, easy carry.

[A]

I don't care if you cool. You don't ever have to pay him.

[B]

I'm only.

[E]

Stop saying that.

[A]

I mean, it's true. What the you going to do? Oh, oh, damn.

[D]

I guess it's what you going to do.

[A]

But keep sitting next to A at work. You ain't about to do nothing.

[D]

Of course not. It's all love, man.

[B]

All love.

[D]

You two are crazy.

[A]

Oh, God. There we go.

[C]

Come on, man.

[A]

Come on, man.

[D]

He look at like this. So

[A]

mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, mic check, 1, 2,1, 2. You've been underneath a rock. We still got our brooms out. We ain't putting them brooms away now. By the time you hear in this recording.

[D]

God damn.

[A]

Is it loud as hell? I was just loud. Billy was in his bag. By the time you hear this recording, another game will be played. But I don't care. They could be down 02 by that time. What? Shout out to the whole New York City, New Jersey, Connecticut, even Philadelphia, surrounding neighborhoods, everybody out in Harlem, They got TVs out in front of the bodegas. Bringing the community together. No matter what age, height, size, nationality, ethnicity, the Knicks have managed to bring the city together. Man, it feels great. Feels so good. Let me turn it up, man. Let me let the guy get in his bag.

[E]

Hey, I seen all the movie stars

[A]

shout out to Pat Ewing just because. Sorry, Oakley, you're not getting in the building, man. Damn, damn, damn.

[E]

Oak under the evergreen.

[D]

That's Pal, it's terrible for the ladies.

[A]

Always for the ladies. So happy to be here today. Feeling good, feeling great.

[E]

I'm in a New York. New Joe B.

[A]

A Spur shirt.

[B]

That was hard.

[A]

A Spur shirt.

[D]

He had a few of them too.

[B]

No, I was going to the NBA store to buy the Dylan Jordan. Oh, they just customize it right there on the spot.

[A]

Listen, man, we've been all over the place. We've been to Mars, Jupiter. We've been to Armageddon with Bruce Willis. We've been to every realm in Interstellar. Is that that movie I fell asleep on with all the different planes of life?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

We've been all over the orbit atmosphere. We called Neil DeGrasse. We've been to Area 51. And I gotta. I gotta tell you, I can't find a alien anywhere. Every. Hey, everyone looks human to me. We only human, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Six man of the year, Calden Johnson played a whole seven minutes in game one.

[D]

Get the out of here.

[A]

Hey, Champagne. Five threes in the first half. Second half. We put a dork in that champagne.

[D]

Nothing.

[A]

Hey, de' Aaron Fox. They said a fox was on the loose. More like we was wildlife rescue that day.

[C]

There was my mention saying Fox going to drop 70 on Brunson.

[A]

Listen, man,

[D]

Welcome to the city of G, New York.

[A]

It said something about some named castle. Must have been like a sand castle or something. It wasn't nothing scary going on.

[E]

Let's do it.

[A]

There we go.

[D]

Once again. When you at. I feel like rocking something, man. Yo, they try to box me in

[A]

the corner for the long run.

[E]

No key.

[A]

Stop here.

[D]

Come on, man.

[A]

Man, shout to everybody upstairs. Everybody in Westchester, Long Island, Jonkers and all that. Of course, the five barrels, man. Come on, man.

[D]

In case you haven't noticed, squeeze and blast them open as soon as the Magnum open. Yeah, Come on. I told you.

[A]

Yo, shout out to all the teams that contributed to us being here too. Man. On God. Hey, Atlanta, we ain't forget about you. We couldn't have done it without y'. All.

[E]

Oh, shit.

[A]

We couldn't have done it without a cj. A vj.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, shout out to the whole city of Brotherly Love. We felt so loved out there. Fuck you.

[D]

Fuck you with a heart full of hatred.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, 12 game winning streak. Most historic playoff run you ever seen. Oh, shout out to Cleveland. That's is hood, yo. We couldn't have done it without you, man. Spider got us prepared for an alien, huh?

[D]

So I can see them when they coming. Then I heat they ass up.

[A]

Cause them that you went to school with. That's why Mark is corny, man. Cause why wouldn't you just root for your friend to feel good once your

[D]

team is out of the mix Division rivals. Boss. Can't do it.

[A]

But we're not.

[B]

Not just that. I don't want to hear that all year.

[D]

That's the other thing. Knicks fans obnoxious. If y' all were normal fans, I'd be probably.

[B]

What?

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

You got to make me cake for the Knicks. Never mind.

[A]

I'mma shut up.

[D]

New York fans are obnoxious, y'.

[E]

All.

[D]

Y' all don't win. Well, I don't want enough. You are a New York fan. Everything about you is what a New York fan is in every way.

[A]

How. I'm mad. Humble. I'm mad humble about this next year. You think I've gone crazy for our first time making the Finals. Does anybody think I've gone crazy during this?

[D]

I think you're going humble. You haven't been humble.

[A]

You haven't been humble.

[C]

Why would you be humble when they blown out of your team by four?

[D]

I'm not mad. He said he is humble.

[A]

Yo, the thing about humility, give me a reason to be humble. I don't feel like being humble. The you talk about.

[D]

Still happen to be.

[B]

Who is that?

[A]

And nobody else. Nobody. No one else.

[D]

Just the guys.

[A]

Shout out to our girl Mona, here with us in spirit. We love you. We love you. Shout out to Flip out in Trinidad. But I'm sure our brother in Christ is here with us in spirit. Whatever show is this, welcome to episode 935 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Power by Prize Picks. Prize Picks, gang.

[E]

You.

[A]

I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy, but without a reason to be humble host Joe Button here with a few amazing people to my right. Oh, man. Hater extraordinaire. That's right, Mr. Just put a T shirt on for Any fucking occasion.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Philly's finest doctor, Doc Dark Doctor, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building with us, man. Mark, how you doing today?

[D]

I am good. Like I said. Wifey back in about two hours. She's about to land the jfk. I'm feeling good.

[A]

That's the best feeling right there. When you know when she coming back. The feeling you get in your stomach, ooh, my baby is coming back again.

[D]

Yeah, See, mine was more like this laundry, man.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[C]

Feminism, yo.

[D]

We all got our roll, Fanny.

[B]

Just laundry.

[D]

I love my wife. I miss her very much. And her birthday is tomorrow, so I also. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, baby.

[B]

I love you, Big Gemini.

[D]

So we got weekend plans. I gotta figure out the weekend plans. Hypothetical question. Hypothetical question.

[A]

I was just thinking of one.

[D]

What's yours and ish.

[A]

Keep looking at me. I'm looking at you. You know you looking at me. You know you looking at me. I'm looking at the board. You was looking at me. This guy, man. And you know why you was looking at me? You thought this.

[B]

I don't know what you're talking about, my brother.

[D]

What's the question?

[A]

Just saying, on her birthday, she get to be away.

[D]

Well, she's coming back for her birthday.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

She already celebrated her birthday.

[A]

My boy, yo Marcus, none the wiser. No, no, no.

[B]

Y' all wrong. That was a work trip. Celebrating.

[D]

I would have asked her, but her phone went down for 25 hours.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[D]

It's a reception issue situation. Just kidding. Yeah, everything's good.

[A]

All right. Well, next to him, Mr. I mean, Mr. Johnny Kemp just got paid by his tenants. Make some noise. Mr. Thousand Doors and up.

[B]

This boy is praying.

[A]

And if you talk aggressively to me in the beginning of the pods, it will affect how you intro.

[B]

What's your point?

[A]

I just want you to know, okay. Because I'll be hooking you up on the intro. But all that ass you my. All that. You saying, like, what you think? Like what you think your intro about to turn. Actually, Antoine is here, man. Think about Antoine the out here. How you doing, man?

[D]

I'm good.

[B]

Yourself?

[A]

Good. Good. Couldn't be better. Next to him, I'm ass.

[D]

90 degree days.

[C]

I love it.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

Yeah, I'm with you.

[D]

Yeah, I'm too old for that.

[A]

Y' all crazy.

[D]

78. I'm good, feel good.

[A]

Word.

[D]

That's ideal San Diego weather, man.

[A]

And it's like, if it's gonna be 90, don't then stay 90. Let us adapt. That's all of the back and forth. 90.

[D]

Then it's 52.

[A]

Yeah. What are we doing?

[B]

That's the.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

That's the.

[A]

Then you get. You get hyped. It'd be 90. You go out by outfit tomorrow. 61, right? You up now. You got a new Tom Brown short set just sitting there doing nothing. Be 90 next week.

[B]

You just gotta hold it off for a week. That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah, we do get a couple days, but it's been nice all week. I've been in the house, under the air.

[B]

It's been a good week.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Been all right.

[B]

Ain't had no rain in a minute.

[A]

A couple more nice days. I'm. I'mma start a. I'mma start. I'm going Start gang banging on.

[D]

On.

[A]

On building Building pools. Building pools. Like on a hot day, you go down there at around noon, 1pm, survive some music. Couple of building hotties come down. Yeah, man, you just wait a couple hours. Here come this fucking family with seven kids. The nanny, some cousins they brought over. Who the fuck are y'? All? Where's my HOA money going?

[B]

Put your thong away for Timmy.

[D]

Yeah. Hey, man, it's a dude in your building that makes the most of that. What's my man name?

[A]

Matt. Yeah. Shout out to Matt.

[C]

Shout to Matt.

[D]

Look over the balcony about 3 o', clock, it'd be him. I already know Matt. Do for a bit little living.

[A]

Me either.

[D]

I don't even want to know. I ain't got no questions. I just know you look over there. I'd be him in like four joints at the same time.

[C]

Having a good time.

[D]

Man

[B]

is living la vida loca.

[A]

Shout out to Matt.

[B]

Shout out to Matt.

[A]

Anyway, Elizabeth's finest, you know what I mean? Chain out the glove compartment on a beautiful day. Matching the Lulu Blues. Stop playing with my boy. Stop playing with him, man. Big freeze in the building. How you doing, Freeze?

[B]

I'm great, man. I'm great.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that next to him. Come on, Big parks. Elmy's finding us in the building.

[B]

Got the new Chucks.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Went low top for the summer.

[A]

He's got the new old Chucks.

[D]

That's it.

[A]

They got 9,000 pairs of that same Chuck.

[C]

That's a fact.

[A]

White pose in the building. In love. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner Savona here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here so happy to be here today.

[D]

So I'm asking Poe to give my potter the munching. You said chain, it reminded me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let's get my boys chained, man. Come on, let's get him right. What's up? What's poppin, though? Hey, sick man, I don't know anything about any topic. I don't have a topic list. I'm not well researched or well thought out. And anything that you brothers want to talk about. My entire week has been Knicks, Knicks, Knicks. I've been crying over the Knicks. What'd you cry for?

[B]

Yeah, with the hugs.

[D]

I know the first half, he probably was crying.

[A]

Nah, yo, I mean, at risk of sounding like a total ass nigga. The Knick win and the fashion that they wanted, like the things that they've done. Like, again, I've said already all the players being there. So, like seeing Pat Ewing Actually traveling with the team.

[C]

Yeah, that's why.

[B]

That's dope. That was fire. No, that's like for real.

[A]

Nick fans that get. Get a little emotional.

[B]

I ain't gonna lie. I think they gonna cry.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I think they gonna be boohooing the

[C]

man in the organization.

[A]

Yeah, okay. They gave him a role.

[C]

Okay, good. I'm gonna say they better sign a bunch of people to the little fucking one day contract.

[B]

I know he was coaching when he was coaching college.

[A]

All of these clips of Rick Brunson and Jalen. Then the clips of the Villanova friends, then watching Rick on the sidelines. And today watching fucking clips of Chris Gent. Chris Gent is the white guy that basically be doing our. But he used to be a baller.

[B]

He was nice.

[A]

So you seeing all these clips and now you just thinking about you watching the finals. I'm watching the finals and I'm watching all of these kids that weren't even born the last time we were there. Like the Knicks in the Finals for me has just been a timeline damn near of my Life. So at 14, at 14, I'm thinking of what was going on with me. Then they got back in 99. I'm thinking about what's going on with me. And so to be here and I got a kid and I got my other kid and it's like, it's like, oh, this shit is emotional. Yeah. And just the ways bringing the city together. Like I was joking around in the intro. That's the real part.

[C]

Absolutely amazing.

[A]

It's beautiful to watch.

[C]

I couldn't even go to my local little dive bars to watch the game. Cause they were packed full people.

[B]

I went Wednesday that was packed.

[C]

My man live in Williamsburg and he was. I invited him over because we had a little cookout, outdoor projector, watching the game. He was like, nah, I'm gonna hang out around here. Then he sent me pictures of like four different restaurants, bars. He's like, I couldn't even get a drink nowhere. So I'm coming over.

[D]

The whole city's come on.

[A]

They got TVs out in the streets. That scene that they did when they blocked off the whole front of the Garden and it was just a packed mad house.

[C]

They sold out the Garden Garden to

[A]

watch for watch party. That was crazy.

[D]

It's amazing.

[B]

New York deserves it. New York deserves it.

[C]

It does.

[A]

I mean, you're like, I'm crying over it.

[B]

And you haven't heard any bad. I haven't heard any bad stories, Any negative. Nothing. Like I. I Haven't heard anything, dog.

[A]

And the focus that they playing with, like, like you can see it. Like, it makes you think. Like last year when they lost to the Pacers, when they went out to have their little Knicks private end of the season party on the cake. They wrote 2026 Champs, which is funny in the moment. And it's like, okay, cool. But the mindset to actually go out there and do it, to not hang the cup banner, they say, Jalen bro. I mean, Jalen brood. Jalen Brunson won't even take no pictures. You know, they got these prop trophies. Yeah, they do the. He won't take a picture. Nowhere near none of them. The job is not finish.

[D]

I respect that.

[A]

Coming off of the court. They asking Bridges and these guys. All right, how's it feel? They like 0,000 the confidence that I had as a Knick fan when they tied it up. Yeah, Listen, like, think about this.

[C]

Once Nick Nixon gets going, when he

[D]

got it going, I was like, this game's over. I got.

[A]

But think about Nick fans having confidence.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

At no point did I feel, I'm not going to hold you. And, you know, I don't even realize really want them to win. At no point did I feel like the game was over. Like, at. No, I don't give a how big San Antonio's lead was. I'm like, yo, they in the game.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it just didn't feel like, you know, is a. A momentum in the field. It just didn't feel in control, like they was outside of the game ever. When San Antonio was being okc. Some of those games, even in the second and third quarter, you was like, yo, this is over.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Just based on how the energy was in that game. I didn't feel that at all. I just. I just think this year, I've said it before, this is just the Knicks year. I just. Sometimes it happens. Like I remember. I remember in the NFL when I think the Giants was like a 6 seed or something in the playoffs and you could just see it like, it doesn't matter. Whoever you put in front of us. It's just our year right now. That defensive line, that's how I look at the Knicks right now. I don't think there was a team left that could have did anything with them.

[D]

That's what it feels like with the

[B]

confidence they playing with.

[D]

I think that's right.

[A]

I'm sorry. In the post game, they talking to Cavs like, yo, how's it feel? Your first finals game? And he out there you know, he lost his mom. He out there like, yo, the woman above was watching over me. I felt like a calm protected.

[D]

That was so beautiful.

[B]

Like, how do you teary up?

[A]

Yeah, no, I've been crying all week. I didn't cry one time. I cried.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not saying I cried once. I cried all week long.

[D]

Yeah, because.

[A]

Because my algorithm is showing me. They showing it to me. I'm like, oh my God, what a fucking Jesus.

[D]

No, the storylines to me are all really powerful and beautiful. Like I said before, I love the Villanova storyline. You know, I love the father son thing. Rick Brunson's a friend of mine. I love watching him and I've known Jalen since he was little. In terms of watching him be developed, watch him ascend to this level is amazing. The friendship thing, the New York, the long starved team for a championship. You talking about 53 years, that's crazy.

[A]

That's the other part that like the Knicks were known to not only star chase, but no star wanted to come here. So when in hindsight looking back at Jalen Brunson coming here, they show me all the clips of what everybody said about when he got here taking the pay cut, his attitude like no Nick fan would have ever thought in the mid. He's like the quintessential Knicks star. Not like Derek Jeter had this certain. Just the like, yeah, man, I don't see how you cannot cry. But the broom's still out though. I mean, listen, the broom's still out.

[D]

I think it's go too far.

[A]

I mean, it could happen, yo, it could happen.

[D]

It absolutely could happen. Like I said, the story lines are beautiful. You'd have to be an asshole or monster not to root for the Knicks. I'm both. I'm comfortable thinking still spurs and six.

[A]

You can't be comfortable.

[D]

But I tell you, no, I mean,

[C]

but if the Knicks win tonight, you

[D]

got can that's out the window. And you for grooms. But I'll tell you after, like Ish said, watching the first half of game one, I didn't feel like, oh, the spurs got this. They were at home. I would, I thought they were going to win, but they weren't. They didn't have a hand on the controls where I would have liked. By the third quarter, I was like, yeah, this game ain't over. And once you tied it up, I was like, knicks going to win this game. They just, they look poised, they look experienced. And Knicks also look very tough and resilient, which is what a championship Team is.

[E]

Is.

[D]

I feel a lot less good about the spurs chances after that first game. I'm still holding on to the spurs, partly out of hate, but I felt

[B]

like that first game was a must win for the Spurs. I'm not even gonna hold you. I think it was too, based on just off momentum mentorship. I ain't gonna say must win mentorship. You don't want them to have they already confident. You don't want them to come here and take game one and be confident.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah. I rap the boys, though, that you spoke of, Mark. Like, it's evident. Like it's evident. Like you can see it. Listen, there's one thing that, that older people will always understand better than people in their youth, and that's youth.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And the youth is on display.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

Yeah. Like, even the attitudes in the post game Castle is like, yo, we're better than them. We gotta work on us, but we feel like we're better than them. Wemby said it in a nicer way, but he basically said, oh, we not worried about them at all. We'll go work on what we gotta work on. But we're the better team.

[D]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, that's what they should be saying, though. Yes, they should. They should.

[A]

I'm not debating.

[D]

I wouldn't say that out loud, but I'd be thinking that. Yes.

[A]

That's a young thing to say that out loud. Because they said the same thing that the Knicks. The Knicks said the same thing. There's a million areas we could improve in. They said all the same shit, except we think we're better than them.

[C]

That's the part that they shouldn't have said.

[A]

You can't. You shouldn't say that. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, but that's youth.

[A]

That's youth out loud.

[B]

You might not should say it to each other.

[A]

Yeah. I don't care what you say in your locker room.

[D]

You're right. You're right.

[A]

But for that to be the overall feeling of the team that you saying on a microphone, that's your youth. Whatever they did for the Knicks intros, that little cartoon music they played.

[D]

Yeah, big mistake.

[A]

It's a big mistake. It's just a mistake. Like you're trying to be funny on game one of the NBA's biggest event

[C]

with a team with a chip on

[D]

their shoulder, that didn't feel very spurs like, to me, it was.

[A]

It was not the spurs we know

[D]

to be class organizations, top flight organization, top conservative.

[A]

So the cartoon music that. That said to me I mean, I tweeted. I was like, oh, y' all want to play bet? Like, y' all doing everything to just piss somebody off. And the game shouldn't be presented like that. These are two teams that worked hard. The Knicks are on a win streak. Like, for the NBA sake. This is not how you. They're not gonna do that to them. The guard.

[D]

No, no, they're not gonna do that to them.

[A]

But anyway, it's just a bunch of little signs that are showing me immaturity. Yeah. And it's gonna play a part.

[B]

I was. I had a conversation with somebody in my DMs. They was like, yo, dawg, again, look. No, they was talking about the coaching with the San Antonio. And I'm just saying, bro. I said, bro, I don't think that he's ready for this. I just don't. And what we don't do is give Mike Brown enough props as a really, really, really, really good and well travel coach. He's killing. Mike Brown has seen everything from a head coach or an assistant coach perspective, he's seen it all. So his adjustments on the fly, him doing some of the. In the fourth quarter situational basketball, that was my knock with the Celtics. They don't play good situational basketball in the fourth quarter. Celtics will shoot themselves out of a game.

[A]

Hey, do me a favor, but don't

[B]

mention the Celtics part.

[D]

I know.

[B]

I'm just saying coaching Matt matters, especially in the fourth quarter, bro. And Mike Brown is just out here putting on a clinic, and nobody's really giving him the props that he deserves.

[C]

I feel like media in general is underplaying the Knicks. The media in general is not really putting enough light on the Knicks. To me, for me, I was watching Sports center the day of the game, and they was just Wemby all day. And I get it. He's the next star. He's the future.

[D]

I start in the game series.

[C]

Yeah, but the Knicks are on a

[D]

tear, and they don't.

[C]

They should be the remind you of

[B]

the old gritty Knicks. Yeah, they do. Like, yo, when you start looking at. At Jason Hart, you start Josh. Pardon me. You start looking at Mikel Bridges. We start looking at OG like, they don't have the glamorous squad, you know what I'm saying? So they kind of resemble the sandpaper, gritty nicks of old.

[D]

And that's funny.

[A]

And the funny like all we kept. And it's some smart media members that's coming around. The smart media members. That's one of my favorite parts Charles. Charles Barkley, known Nick Hater. He's picking the Knicks. He's speaking very highly and favorably about the Knicks.

[D]

He'd be wrong most years.

[A]

It doesn't scare me. Draymond, who was recently, like, just two weeks ago, hating on the Knicks.

[D]

Yeah, he was.

[A]

He's come around to speak favorably about. Yeah.

[B]

Cause he was on him.

[A]

I mean, at some point, you can't deny what you are seeing.

[B]

What you saying you can hate the Knicks. That win streak.

[D]

I keep winning. At some point, you gotta.

[A]

And everybody keep talking about, oh, oh, the Thunder and the spurs was the real final. The west just overpowers the East. And then as soon as the game start and Cat start taking it right to Wimby's business, I said, oh, we forgot. Cat is nice. Not only is he nice, he's a superstar. He grew up in the Western Conference on the west, spent nine years against all of them. That was over there and didn't run.

[B]

True.

[A]

He didn't run.

[D]

Yeah. No. He's playing great basketball.

[B]

I really think Cat deserves some props, too, because he. He kind of takes.

[D]

Offensively, he's been amazing.

[B]

He's taking a Robin role way more than I would have expected him to. He's really, like, just letting Brunson navigate.

[A]

The Knicks gets good. I'm not gonna nick y' all to death so early. To me, I think that's me being humble. But go Nixon.

[D]

For you, though, Joe.

[A]

Go Knicks. Go Knicks. What up?

[D]

What up, Mark? Not a basketball question, but a Knicks question. When Trump goes into that stadium, you have a moment where you can be collective New Yorkers, not think about politics and just applaud the president, or the place could erupt into booze, or the place could be divided. I feel like any one of those things might change the energy in the building for the rest of the night. What will you do as a Knick fan?

[A]

Nothing. I'll stand up and do this shit. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna disrespect the building. I'll stand up, but I'm not making a.

[B]

Oh, when Trump come in, you'll stand up?

[A]

No. When you sing the national anthem.

[B]

Oh, that's the.

[D]

No, no. But I'm saying, when they say with

[A]

the flags and all that, but, you

[D]

know, at some point, I mean, they shout out Fat Joe, they shout out Ben Stiller. At some point, they're gonna say, and here with us at courtside, the 47th. 47th President of the United States, Donald Trump. And people gonna be expected to do

[A]

so I'm eating my dog. Fair might go get a hot dog.

[D]

That's a smooth move. Go to the glizzy stand right there.

[A]

Yeah, I'm going to get a Lizzy.

[D]

Does that place erupt in the. Cuz the.

[B]

No, I don't think so.

[A]

That place ain't gonna erupt.

[C]

No.

[D]

That's in taboos maybe. Yeah. And does that throw off the energy for the rest of the night? It might. No, it's just an interesting question.

[A]

I think the Knicks are too focused to be distracted by that.

[D]

Fans might not.

[B]

And the fans. The fans. I think if it's too focused too dog, that's part of their focus. They go off and get right back to the game.

[D]

Cuz Hakeem Jeffries, you know, sent a note out saying, donald Trump, why do you have to mess everything up? The Knicks are doing great. It's a historic leadership. By the way, under Mamdani, you get your first finals appearance. Thank you, Mayor Mamdani. Now Trump, he's saying, donald Trump, you're gonna come here and they're gonna boo you and it's gonna fuck up the building. That's.

[A]

How Muslim are you?

[D]

I don't know how to answer that.

[C]

Muslim.

[A]

I gotta start. I gotta start checking my Muslim friends because everybody say shit to make you think that they Muslim him. But I was talking to my driver the other day.

[D]

You talk? You let him talk now?

[A]

I was speaking to my driver. We have a very great relationship. We speak to each other.

[D]

Mark.

[A]

So I'm talking to him and I'm like, yeah, cuz we had a busy. Whatever. Let's say previous two days. I'm like, yo, D. And then I called him like on some 8 in the morning, said had a lot to do this week. I'm like, yo, did you sleep? Like, how much sleep did you get? He says, no, I Woke up at 3 to pray.

[D]

Fudges.

[A]

I said, excuse me.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I said, I gotta get the prayer app.

[A]

So. So we have a long talk. We talking, we talking. He's like, yeah. So he's showing me the app and he's showing me the amount of times he prays a day. Three. 3:15. That's five times a.m. 5:15. A.m. noon.

[B]

Five times?

[A]

Yeah, three. No, he don't breathe all the time. Five and eight. It's mad times he praying. And once I heard that I gotta talk to my Muslims. Cause I don't think y'.

[B]

All. Everybody don't, don't. Yeah, everybody don't do all that. They ain't the same.

[A]

Anybody not the same, but everybody get to rep it.

[D]

It's like any other religion.

[B]

Any other religion.

[A]

Nah, if you're not living it.

[B]

That's not true.

[A]

I'm not religious. You know, enough spiritual

[B]

off of it. You know, enough people that are with other religions that don't do everything.

[A]

I don't know any of the religious dos and don't dice.

[B]

You know, Christians.

[D]

I'll give you an example. Premarital sex is one that all the big ones say you can't do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, that was a. That was a fugazi from the rip. Wait, in which religion?

[D]

All of them.

[A]

Oh. Nobody was abiding by that.

[D]

But that's my point.

[B]

It was, though.

[D]

But this is what happens, right? This is what I find out.

[A]

Give me the ones like that you could do, like pray.

[D]

Honestly, I'd rather not have sex than wake up at 3am every day.

[B]

Yo, dog.

[D]

A lot of religions, kind of.

[B]

A lot of religions. You can't gamble.

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[D]

None of them.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

None of them.

[B]

But people do.

[D]

Or drink.

[A]

Or drink.

[C]

Eat pork.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's a lot of them.

[A]

I got it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think I understand everybody.

[D]

People only look at Muslims, though. You ever notice that?

[B]

Like.

[D]

Like, they'd be like, he say Muslim, but he gambles. But they don't be like, she say she Christian, but she be.

[B]

Yeah, he the pastor. He popped all these, right. Not doing it.

[D]

I'm lying.

[B]

You're right.

[D]

Yeah. When Muslims don't abide by everything they say, they make them sound like they're frauds. Whereas with Christians, they'd be like, I'm not perfect. Or I'm, you know, I'm violent. I backslide a little. But they make it sound like they're just bad Christians. Muslims, they act like you like committing a fraud. He's right.

[A]

Y' all convince me.

[D]

I'm on.

[A]

I'm on y' all side with this. I a never seen Mark pray about nothing.

[D]

I did. There's so many.

[A]

Actually, I take it back. I do know quite a few. All right, come on. What's important? What's unimportant? What's on our minds?

[D]

Hearts, I think the most important story in the world today. Some action happened at Nobu. Paparazzi tried to catch a man. KD shout out to KD tried to catch a man, him in a paparazzi photo, and he wasn't having it. And so allegedly he hid in a bush, except he's 7ft tall.

[B]

I thought that shit was photoshopped. I say, nah, son.

[D]

I didn't think it was real neither.

[B]

I just heard Cat Williams.

[A]

Nigga, we can see you.

[B]

It's like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?

[D]

I love kd. Cause KD loves to troll the media. He loves to interact on X with the fans. So I know that he's not stupid. He's very smart. So he knew what that looked like and he don't care. That's funny. You might know I'm here, but you definitely not getting me in a photo

[B]

and showing you like, I ain't with her.

[A]

Right?

[D]

You going to get this. You going to get this hat. This out of BC hat.

[A]

That's all you going to get.

[B]

I thought it was a before I just saw the picture and I thought it was a stalking. That's what it looked like. Like, oh, you want a date? But then when I realized, oh, this hiding from the cameras, man. We see you, bro. That is funny.

[C]

That's hilarious.

[B]

That is hilarious, son. That is whack.

[D]

But which part have you to do

[B]

it n. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That you can't just be outside minding.

[C]

He's famous in one of the hottest

[D]

restaurants with a woman who was.

[C]

With a joy.

[D]

I don't see beauty, but just from the likes on. On Instagram, she seemed. I would imagine she'd be attractive. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You can tell from the algorithm.

[A]

I got to see more pictures.

[D]

Me too. For research.

[A]

You sound like you saw more pictures already. He did.

[B]

My follower.

[D]

Yeah, I'm a journalist.

[C]

He's a journalist.

[B]

I'm a journalist.

[D]

Now you're a journalist as of today.

[B]

That's hilarious.

[D]

There should be some rules with that though, man. Like, they should let you be able to, like, go to dinner and get in your car without photos, particularly if you play ball with them.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Like, if I get y' all interviews sometime, I do this and I'm Katie, you should let me get to the shit.

[B]

Yeah, it don't work like that, bro.

[D]

It's a nasty game.

[A]

And I mean, there's a certain skill set you gotta have as paparazzi. Like, I assume that they could tell when an athlete is moving. Moving in a way with a girl where he don't really want to be seen.

[B]

That's what they trying to. Noble caught them. Yeah, I ain't gonna say that.

[D]

Or she called. Or she called.

[B]

All right. I'm not gonna put that on them.

[A]

But they get called.

[B]

They got people that work there.

[A]

These mixy ass niggas be going to the hot Spot restaurants.

[C]

That part.

[A]

It's like, what are we doing, dog? Yo, get you a low spot when you with something low.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Go somewhere where they have no idea it's one. It's your spot. It's private. Go to a low. I mean, there's ways to do it.

[C]

Yeah. Especially when you're seven foot tall.

[A]

No, Boo.

[D]

Right?

[A]

The answer's in the name. Nah, Boo. Yeah, that's it.

[B]

Y' all ever did that.

[A]

Pergola is another one. Like, it's some spots up here. Say less. You had to stop now. I stopped because, you know, gun violence. But outside of the gun violence. Yeah. No. I've been learning so much about New York, I went to fucking. What's the. The big. The harbor. What's that? What's the. Right. What is that? The big thing?

[B]

No.

[C]

Chelsea Pier? No, no.

[D]

Hudson Yards.

[A]

Yeah, Hudson Yards. I went to. Like, I never been there.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

That's just a picture you put up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I never seen it in person.

[C]

What'd you go over there for show or something?

[A]

I went over there to scout a location.

[C]

Oh, work.

[A]

I went over there to scout a location.

[B]

That's what you call them.

[A]

That thing is beautiful. I'm a fake. Blue. Black. Black successful entrepreneur. I'm not. What do you mean, scout a location? And if I was scouting something else back to my Durant point, it wouldn't be at Hudson Yards. Hey, meet me over here. You gotta come out me. I'm super famous now. No, you gotta come. I'm. I'm super famous now.

[C]

So is he.

[A]

Facts. Yeah.

[B]

That's a fact. No.

[A]

Anyway, I went to. I'm sorry.

[B]

I know based on what we get. I can only imagine what you get.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you. Not me.

[D]

That's why you can't go out me.

[B]

No. It's bad.

[A]

Anyway, my conspiracy brain got to go on when I went to Hudson Yards because I'm like, I still don't get what would make everybody want to jump from this thing. Oh, what? Huh?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause you know, like mad people have unalived themselves in Hudson Yard, like a bunch. Yeah.

[D]

But you wondered why they chose this piece. Pier.

[B]

It ain't a pier.

[A]

It's not? Yeah, it's not a pier.

[B]

It's a mall. But it got a funny shape. Mall. It's like a structure. They made a mall out of this piece of art. And it's really high and it's open. So a lot of people have self transitioned, but a lot of those people would just want to make A scene?

[A]

Yeah. I don't believe that for a second.

[E]

Huh?

[A]

I don't believe that for one second. What's that thing that I called when the. When the white husbands take their wife hiking?

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, you think it was a whoopsie?

[A]

I think people are killing people over there.

[D]

That's possible.

[A]

Listen, I know a little over there. I know a little bit about mental health. That's kind of 10 people didn't come up with the same location and say, you know what?

[D]

That's what they doing. To go to Gate Bridge and stuff like that.

[A]

A bridge. A bridge.

[B]

A high structure where I can make a scene. And I know I'm going, get it done. Done, Joe. And you know how many cameras is over there?

[C]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[B]

It's a different level of camera. Seen and unseen in that area. That's not happening.

[D]

I don't believe.

[B]

Without somebody going, I don't believe the jump.

[A]

It's camera cameras is all I'm saying.

[C]

Yeah, it is.

[B]

Like that shit ain't normal.

[C]

Camera.

[A]

Also, while I'm on mental health. Did y' all know that Michael Jackson's song Billie Jean, oh, my God. Is about a stalker? It's about a stalker who was mentally unwell. No.

[B]

And her daughter just came out.

[A]

Yeah, her daughter came out and is speaking for the first time. Did an interview. I had no idea that this song was about a stalker.

[C]

A real life story.

[B]

Oh, she's just a girl who thinks that I am.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

What'd you think it was about?

[C]

I thought it was just a regular side piece kind of story. Yeah, I just said I'm the one. I didn't know it was biographical.

[A]

I thought Mike made a smash out of being a deadbeat. Oh, you thought? I thought he. I thought that was his. I thought that was his.

[C]

I thought that was his child.

[A]

I thought that was his moment. Like, yo, you got the little side joint.

[B]

Gary, Indiana.

[A]

Mike, you made a mistake.

[B]

It's Gary, Indiana.

[A]

But are you Michael Jackson? So can't own that one. Nah, that kid ain't mine. I thought that was super fly of him to make a chorus out of that, Yo.

[B]

And Shorty sued him in that everything over the song. No, she sued him over a billion dollars saying that the kids really was hers.

[A]

Told her it was a real thing.

[B]

Yo. Told her daughter, like, yo, Michael's not coming to see you based on how you acting.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

So she was. She was a little.

[A]

She was really.

[C]

She was going through some mental health issues as well.

[D]

I never once did Michael Jackson Makes a song about a woman because he had a real life experience. Like. Like romance. Never once. No.

[A]

Damn.

[D]

The only real life Michael Jackson's love song I think about is Ben. Everything else.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Everything else.

[B]

Stop this Mic.

[C]

So you have started the doc.

[A]

Ben is a duck. You didn't believe the Lisa Marie Presley moment, huh? All right. No, no. All right, hold on.

[B]

You get me on their side though, right? So what you think is kids are artificial and they're not.

[D]

No, I think two people did have sex. Baby.

[B]

That's not.

[D]

And that's it.

[C]

You think those are his kids for real?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Why.

[D]

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

[B]

Why would I not.

[A]

Why would. I didn't know that people thought that they were his kids. Look at them.

[D]

Are you serious? What?

[B]

I'm lost. I don't.

[D]

Michael Jackson is my dad. He's your dad.

[B]

I don't understand.

[C]

Have you seen him?

[D]

Have you seen the kid?

[B]

I have.

[A]

What does he look like?

[B]

Mike, why do you. What make. All right, you saw him. Why you think they his adopted?

[C]

Maybe Like. I'm not saying that he wasn't a father to these kids.

[D]

No, he's saying he's the biological eye test.

[B]

That would mean that they not his.

[D]

Yes. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you. Let the doctor say thank you, Mark.

[D]

Michael Jackson. Think about the Michael Jackson before all the stuff.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

If he has a baby.

[C]

Cause that don't translate.

[D]

All the surgeries and vitiligos don't turn into them kids. Them white kids. Yeah. Michael Jackson is a dude with dark skin, a wide beautiful nose and a thick ass fro. He has sex with this white woman. Debbie. I can't think of her name. But this white woman, very nondescript. White. Yeah, yeah. I'm just talking about pigment right now. Very white.

[B]

What's the dominant gene?

[D]

Yeah, the dominant gene always gonna be the black one. Or usually. But what I'm saying is these kids ain't biracial. These kids ain't by nothing. These are white kids. All right. You find this hard to believe?

[B]

I have family, my personal family, that are black, 100% black. And if you saw them outside, you would never, ever, ever think that they were black until they open their mouth.

[D]

And what do the parents look like? Black people. Do they look like any of them dark as Michael Jackson?

[B]

Some, yeah, actually. But my point is that's not necessarily how genetics work. You can have a biracial child that has zero. If you didn't know that their parent was black, you would never know.

[C]

Well, I agree with that. With skin tone for sure. We've seen that a million times. I'm talking about, like, facial features and all that shit. They don't look like.

[D]

Oh, they also don't look like any of the Jacksons, which are pretty strong features.

[C]

Features. Yeah.

[B]

And it happened twice.

[A]

I've never even thought about this until y'.

[B]

All for real.

[A]

Really? Yeah.

[B]

This was a thing.

[D]

I never thought that anybody thought that those was Michael Jackson.

[A]

Word. Y' all do think Michael Jackson got some at some point.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Every response I have will get bleeped out. It may get me, but I got some zingers for that one.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[D]

No, I mean, I don't know if Michael Jackson had sex with a woman before. I don't care.

[C]

I think that he probably.

[B]

From what I heard, he was a devout, devout, devout. Jehovah's Witness, like, devout. And so Jehovah's Witness, they really believe in no sex, no pussy, pre marriage.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So I think that once he got married, I think he definitely engaged.

[A]

Why they stopped knocking on doors? What's their new marketing thing they do?

[D]

They just can't get in your door.

[C]

They got email sales.

[B]

They be in the hood.

[D]

Remember the other day there was a. I had. I had to hit him on the nest. Like, yo, don't come back to my house no more. I did. I hit him there like. Like a month or two ago. They still do it. They do a lot more train stations now. And in the nicer neighborhoods, they don't always go door to door. They like, they. They set up shop at like the. The. The craft fair or the. The town flea market or something. And they tell you you're going to hell.

[A]

Right. That's why I'm not seeing them.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

They don't be nowhere you at.

[A]

Yeah. The flea markets and the train stations.

[D]

It's never going to be coming to the stage. Do you want to know the truth?

[B]

The only watch.

[A]

Now you're earning that change. Now you're earning that.

[B]

That was good.

[A]

Come into the stage.

[D]

Oh, man.

[B]

Yo, that's crazy.

[C]

So go in here started. The docs are going to watch the doctor.

[B]

I'm not watching them.

[D]

I want to watch that. Wait for wifey to come home. I'm going to watch everybody. Bit of it.

[A]

I'm not. I'm not watching that.

[B]

I am not. You not going to watch it, Mr. Doc, of course you going.

[A]

I'm not watching that.

[B]

Watching that.

[A]

I've heard enough about what they think of what Mike did.

[B]

Yeah, I'm cool.

[C]

Yeah, I Think if episode one,

[B]

I

[C]

love Michael Jackson but it looks away.

[A]

It.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I don't know. I'm going to keep watching them, bro.

[B]

I think that if, that if somebody intent is to make you look away, I think they could. If they put enough hours in storyline to make you look great, they can. And if they put enough hours and storyline to make you look like a total piece of, they can. I think that whatever the intent.

[C]

Well, I think that's true. I mean the, the thing that they start the doc with is him doing the interview with homeboy, talking about how he has boys sleep in his bed, right? And then they go to the kid talking to the police, saying the accusations, which I was like, oh, he could be lying, blah, blah, I'm with you, I'm with you. But then he's like, he had this suitcase full of porn. It looks a black suitcase with orange latches and it's pictures of such and such and such in the thing. It's just regular porn, I think. And then they went to his house and found the suitcase. Like it described exactly how he described it. So he was probably looking at porn with this kid that was in his bed. Now, whether they had physical interaction, I don't know. But it's still all fucking weird and illegal.

[D]

There's definitely a lot of questions. You know, Michael Jackson's dead and I'm always reluctant to prosecute cases after people are gone because they don't get a chance to voice their side. But Michael did say a lot of his side, you know, during the trial and other things, there have been kids who've come forward, some of those people and some of those parents, not really the kids, but the parents weren't always telling the truth.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[D]

I think it's important to establish that Michael Jackson was lied on as much as anybody we've ever seen. But that doesn't mean that everybody's lying. And that's why I'm gonna watch the documentary, just to see what these people are saying. Because there's a lot of compelling evidence against Michael Jackson too. And I think sometimes, to use ice's logic, and I agree with you, we're often selected. We pick and choose when we wanna believe this stuff. Cause if There is a YouTube documentary about the government and conspiracy, sometimes we'll buy that against all evidence to the contrary. But when it comes to actual people saying, he did this thing to me and here's physical evidence, we're like, well, we don't know. I'm just saying we, we should.

[A]

There's another one. It's not just we don't know. Some people don't give a. Oh, that's most people. Some people just don't care about none of this shit.

[D]

But, but, but, but, Joe, sometimes people don't care because he makes it.

[A]

Then you can't say it because it makes you seem like a bad person that you don't give a fuck about.

[C]

I want to be clear. Whether or not this DOC sways me in one direction or other, I'm still gonna listen to Michael Jackson music.

[D]

There's nothing you can hear about Michael Jackson. Jackson that.

[C]

Not much. I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I'm sorry. That is too ingrained in my life.

[A]

Yeah, we're musicians, Mark.

[D]

I'm just asking a question. If Michael Jackson had publicly acknowledged that he did the worst things ever he was accused of, if he had acknowledged it, would y' all still listen to Michael Jackson?

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm gonna.

[B]

I'm asking a question.

[D]

You say no, no, and what's the

[A]

worst things you in the gospel. Don't try to set me.

[D]

No, no. I mean that he was accused of. He was accused of just this pedestrian. If he acknowledges everything he was accused

[A]

of, he came out on some bouti bout it shit with the pedophile. And no, no, no. That's a little too arrogant for me. I mean, I would listen to it properly maybe, but I wouldn't both. I wouldn't both be doing the three Halloween. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Personally, he'd be on the R. Kelly list for me.

[D]

Okay, because.

[B]

And again, that ain't telling nobody. You better not. I don't give a fuck. Just on my personal end, he would be there.

[D]

And for me, it's like, yes, I agree. But also, if he. If the evidence was so compelling that he never said, like, I don't need.

[A]

How do you feel stronger about that than you feel about. About death amongst the youth in songs?

[D]

Death.

[C]

That is an interesting question.

[A]

These come out and say, I'm killing every Tom, Dick and Harry that walk around here. And that's just how on it.

[B]

I can answer.

[D]

Well, I can answer. If you talking about like that.

[A]

I was asking you to answer.

[B]

And whether y' all accept the answer or not, it's your answer. It's because I have a daughter. It stemmed from that. Well, that's really. That's where it stem from. I'm like, yo, you doing with little girls and little kid? Like, I can't. I can't. But just.

[A]

Just to my rebut to that, though, is that all of this pedophilia is not specific to girls. Crime is not specific to boys.

[B]

I understand. I'm just tell. I'm specifically saying what affected me. I think.

[C]

I get that. I get.

[B]

That's just it. It ain't got to be right.

[C]

I think it's completely okay for everyone to have their own boundaries with what they're willing to listen to or accept from their artists or whoever, entertainers. I think it's okay for Ice to be like, nah, that's a line too far from me.

[D]

As long as you're not judging other people for not having your same boundaries. Don't do.

[B]

I do not do that. I don't give a. Y' all could

[D]

play because I can't be here like, well, how dare you listen to Michael Jackson? And then I go and listen to,

[B]

like, you see, y' all say, if

[D]

I'm listening to R. Kelly, which I don't. But if I'm listening to R. Kelly, I can't be like, how dare you? But I think that's unfair.

[B]

And I don't. And I personally, like, y' all have cut R. Kelly on the hair. I don't. Yo, but cut that bullshit off, yo. How dare you? No, if that's what you want to hear, that's. I don't. That has nothing to do with me.

[D]

And for me, I just say, like, no, R. Kelly for me. Right? And that's what I said, you know, And I encourage people not to do it. But for me, like, when I hear. As I get older, my opinion has changed on this, too. Cause, like, I don't want to hear drill music. I don't want to hear people. I'm okay with people fictionally talking about whatever they want to talk about. I don't like it. I don't encourage. But I think that's different than somebody in their real life doing harm and me saying that's okay. I agree that, for me, is a distinction.

[B]

But some of these artists, allegedly, to be politically correct, are literally outlining how they've murdered people. And so. And. And some of the artists that people are really, really, really fans of. When you start hearing about what these niggas is doing, some of these niggas is mass murderers, and we sitting here promoting their music.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

So I don't. I mean, listen, a pedophile is the worst thing you could be in our culture, in our society, I think about society. I think so, but not society. Our culture, maybe.

[A]

Yeah. To me, there's a whole list of

[C]

them I agree with you that it

[B]

is for me, it's the worst with kids, B. You, they got a special place for you. When you say our society, there's a whole list of them that are still thriving right now.

[A]

To me, that's just as bad as murdering kids.

[B]

Yeah, bro, like when you start talking about, yo, these are mass murdering young black men and we are still buying their albums and promoting them and all of that other. No, it is not the same as pedophilia. But my, it ain't far, far, far down the list. You talking about 16 and 17 year old boys getting murdered in high clips, getting murdered in high court. It ain't pedophilia, but it ain't that far down the list. So I just think that where we kind of pull our morals from sometimes.

[D]

But the sad part is really the worst thing you could be in our society is a pedophile without any hits. Because if you're a pedophile with a classic album or a billionaire or a

[C]

billion dollars or a high ranking politician,

[D]

we let that slide.

[B]

You are a disgusting piece of.

[A]

No, I'm with you.

[D]

I'm just saying in reality, we let that slide.

[C]

I'm talking about when you say society.

[D]

Society lets a lot of shit slide. If you got a talent or a gift or some money.

[B]

But I think what happens is, I think what happens is when you have that much money, you could kind of create a reasonable doubt. No, these motherfuckers ain't even create reasonable doubt.

[D]

I'll be honest with you. When the Chocolate Factory came out, I feel like I'm just to go back to. Just use R. Kelly example, there wasn't doubt anymore. People just kind of closed their eyes. We ignored it.

[A]

We ignored it.

[B]

When the video came out and was in every barbershop in America, there wasn't doubt.

[D]

People wasn't like, I don't believe it. They was like, there was still doubt.

[B]

No, it wasn't doubt. It's just niggas didn't. Well, I'm gonna speak for the people that I interacted with and stuff at that time. Nobody's brain really realized in the moment, like, that's a kid. It was just a sex tape. Damn near, yeah. I never saw it, but. And then as time went on, it's like, wait a minute. As we got older, it was like, yo, wait, like n was watching porn. No, not just porn, but that kind of porn in a fucking barbershop, right?

[A]

Talking about fun week in Par, man. All right. This is such a fun, man. The energy in New York, man. Yo, so Billy G. You know what we should talk about, Billy G? Abuse, pedophilia, children being murdered. That really brightens my baby Free weekend.

[B]

I got one, too.

[D]

You have a baby free weekend?

[A]

Oh, you got that right.

[B]

Got one, too.

[A]

Say it.

[D]

Go ahead. That's too easy. I thought you set me up.

[A]

Say it. Say it so I can say it so I can punch you in your face.

[D]

Go ahead.

[A]

Go ahead. Go ahead and say it.

[D]

We all think it is.

[A]

That's what my girl be saying. I'd be like, come on now. You know it's my baby every week. And she like, dog, you go drop that baby right at your dad's and be outside like. Well, he loves it there. Anyway, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize Picks. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna get to this ad, but I ain't over that bitch from. From earlier, before the intro.

[B]

I didn't call you a bitch. We had prize picks simmering.

[C]

You said word.

[B]

Turn your offer. Turn your oven off. I didn't call you a.

[A]

You did.

[B]

I didn't, but it's okay. I didn't.

[D]

He didn't call you a bitch.

[A]

Stall him out, man.

[D]

It was in his tone. But he didn't call.

[A]

You bet both of your money it you don't pay.

[B]

See, that's how we got here.

[D]

How we got here.

[A]

It's cool.

[D]

Points are made.

[A]

Yeah. So y' all don't want that bet?

[D]

I take the bet. It's all coming out of his ten thousand. You ain't betting everybody.

[A]

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[B]

No, I did he go by all

[A]

it did I did I go by the.

[B]

The was hitting me all week like, yo, you won.

[A]

They were wrong.

[B]

Okay. They were wasn't but the guy they wrong. They was wrong.

[A]

I'm going have to start saving it. This will not bro.

[D]

I promise you.

[A]

How can we repair our friendship? You don't think it's like going in the gutter now?

[B]

No, I promise you.

[D]

I I hit if I tell this

[A]

it ain't raining outside, he going to

[D]

say it ain't got Joe you think

[B]

you know, dropped out.

[A]

You got it?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

God damn. But Ish is going with. I don't even know how to find his text. What's his name in my phone. All right, here it is.

[D]

Daddy. Oh, shit. Daddy.

[A]

All right. Damn. All right.

[B]

I gave you a bunch.

[A]

Ish is going with six piece champagne. I call him Champagne but I mess everybody's name up. Champagne for more than seven rebounds and assists. Hey, Champagne. Just a quick note. All that chirping in the middle of the game, back to the immaturity point. There's a lot of game left to play. He doing a whole lot of chirping and chatting and talking shit. Game ain't over. You're not focus. You're not focus. Finish your food. Finish what's in front of you.

[C]

True.

[A]

I've been texting Jared Jack every morning. Still? Yes.

[B]

I have to shout out to Jared, man.

[A]

All of them. Mark. I work with Mark. If I didn't work with him, he would be getting all of them. That was talking that.

[B]

I got it. I got it.

[A]

Text if you talk about. I don't want to be a part of your morning text routine.

[B]

Too bad.

[A]

I bet you doing pancakes. Don't worry, man.

[D]

Hey. Hey.

[A]

The Pistons will make it to the Eastern Conference finals one day. Damn. We've been there before. Being the number one team and getting bounced in the second round. We been. You got to work your way up Pistons. Anyway, issues going with Bridges for more than five and a half rebounds. And it's assist Cat for more than six field goals made. Cat got rid of that fox, huh? Oh, gosh. Cat got rid of that.

[C]

He's been working on that one.

[A]

Oh my God. Dylan Harper for more than two and a half three point attempts. Now that was a problem. Yeah, Harper was causing a bit of

[B]

an issue out there and they should

[A]

have let let him keep going, but thank God. Hold on, let me hit the round of applause for Mitch Big John Jersey. I mean no. For Mitch Johnson taking him out the game. Yeah, shout out to Harper being from Jersey. But shout out to the coach for getting him to fuck out the game when he was on a heater. Who needed that one? Listen, I'm of the belief that if Hart is not in foul trouble in the first four minutes that he might have calmed that down a little bit. But shout out to Harbor. We got Devin Vasso for more than four field goals made. We got OG Anunoby for more than two and a half free throws made. Oh, that's good. We got Stefan Sandcastle for more than five rebounds. He's going step on Castle again for more than four three point attempts. And he's going with Harrison Barnes for more than one and a half attempts. I Harrison Barnes spooky attempts. They played him a little more than they should have too his old ass. Hey, your dog bench his ass man.

[B]

If you let Dylan cook. Let him cook, bro.

[A]

They ass the bench his ass.

[B]

I would have let Dylan get 40

[A]

if he could have that bench is to win the second they went to the the bench being ass don't mean it's not good players on the bench.

[C]

Oh okay. It means they played like ass.

[A]

You no, it means you can't go to your the playoffs.

[D]

You try to save him. He give him bulletin board.

[A]

No, he's not saving me. I know what I'm saying. Shut up doc.

[D]

I know what you saying. I'm saying you go turn the spurs up bulletin board material.

[C]

Dylan Harper is not ass nor is he been playing like ass.

[A]

Nobody is saying Dylan Harper is ass.

[C]

He's on the bench.

[A]

The playoffs are about solving very specific problems that the other team is showing you. True great. You could sub in a guard. A great guard. Yeah, but who they don't have a big man

[C]

that does what he does.

[A]

Oh please. That we went on our run when he came in and then they got wimy right back in the game.

[E]

Game.

[A]

There was no time for rest and then he played and they wanted to. Yeah, and then. And then he played 17 straight minutes. And that's why that jumper is not falling the three. He don't have no legs. It's your conditioning. Yeah, all of them.

[B]

It's tired legs.

[A]

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[D]

We need some feminine energy in here.

[A]

Man,

[D]

where your waist go? What waist?

[E]

In Mexico.

[A]

Welcome, welcome.

[E]

Hey, guys.

[A]

Big Mona in the building. Hey, Julie. How you doing, Mona?

[E]

I'm okay.

[A]

Good, good.

[B]

Yo, that make the T shirts you tried to sell up here.

[E]

Yes, it is.

[B]

Try to get to plan B. T shirts and got the fancy on.

[E]

I promise you I didn't get paid for my shirt.

[A]

I put that T shirt right in the cat litter box. I ain't even got a cat. I ain't even got a cat.

[E]

You know what's crazy?

[A]

I went and bought cat litter just for that shirt. Whatever.

[E]

I got a cat last night.

[A]

Oh, get out.

[E]

I named him Simon.

[A]

Okay, welcome to I don't Give a.

[E]

I don't have a nigga. I have a cat. Oh, I'm embracing my future.

[B]

Dopine traded you the cat, didn't he?

[E]

No, in boredom. He's a Bengal. And he got paperwork. I'm gonna let my. I bore a legal cat with paperwork. It shots.

[A]

I would have loved to hear about that cat right before work. Yo, I would love to hear about that cat, but I'm glad that you're here. You look good. You're smelling good.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

It's good to see you.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Feminine energy. Oh, you said that, cuz Moan is here. Got it. Got.

[D]

That was a walk on.

[A]

Oh, I did. I did go to the Summer Walker concert the other day at the bar place.

[C]

Let's hear about it.

[A]

Try to bring up some girly topics.

[B]

No, we heard.

[C]

I heard it was like a musical or some

[A]

musical.

[D]

That's what they said.

[B]

Your boy here after he on her last two albums. I said, that's not true, bro. Joe love Summer.

[D]

He didn't love the last album, but I love Summer.

[A]

Wait, who? Definitely show.

[B]

You get a call every time this go. Told him keep eyes everywhere.

[D]

It sound like he really be keeping you safe.

[A]

It sound like he speaks the entire truth, people, is what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. But the show was good.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that's good.

[A]

The show was good. She has gotten a lot better. You know, Summer used to be stage fright. Introvert. Awkward.

[D]

Awkward.

[A]

Not singing the songs. Not walking around. You're sitting down. It just was a show. A Summer Walker show. Not so much now. A lot. I left the show. Pleased.

[B]

Gotcha. Good.

[A]

She 90 minutes.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

One opener, shout out to monteleo.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

One opener. She did 90 minutes. Every song that you wanted her to sing, she's sung. She's one of those artists where if you a Summer fan, Summer got so many slaps Summer has so many. She got slaps on albums. She got slaps on Epsilon.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Like, I forgot about the her and Usher slap. I forgot how that took over when it came. That song is so fire. I know y' all didn't identify by me singing it, but anyway, someone got a lot of joints. She did the whole wedding bridal theme from the album. Okay. So I guess that might be what

[B]

they were talking about.

[C]

Maybe so. Yeah. It seemed like there was some. I saw like a quick snippet. It was. Looked like there was like mild acting stage.

[A]

Yeah. She had a bride. She had the bride's dress on. She bought some sugar daddy out in a wheelchair who I guess she killed him was the theme. I don't know about any of that. Listen, I had to wait because I normally buy my tickets, but just invited me. So I hit just. And I was waiting outside. And I think y' all know I love the people watch. Maybe y' all know I love people watching.

[C]

We know.

[B]

That's. That's some fire.

[A]

One of my favorite things. One of my favorite things to do is people watch. And boy, at the Summer Walker show, I didn't really think about her crowd and who she brings out.

[C]

Deb, I would imagine.

[B]

Yeah, Them. What? Please elaborate.

[C]

Beautiful women.

[A]

Birds.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, you said it better than me.

[A]

They could be beautiful. Was a bird fest.

[D]

Really?

[B]

Yep.

[D]

What else would you expect?

[A]

Women.

[B]

Them what?

[D]

Hoes. Oh, them. Be there.

[B]

Them. That parks is them. Me and parks.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Be the fool.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

No, it was a lot of bird. It was a bird. Extravagant. Not saying I'm a bird.

[D]

No, that's what.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a bird. But I mean, fans was dressing up like, in wedding gear.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Because that was the theme of her show.

[B]

I like that trend. That mean you got real fans and fandom. That's dope.

[A]

I hate that trend. I like it. I absolutely hate this trend.

[B]

I love that shit. Yo.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Yeah, why? Hate that trend. That's dope. Yeah.

[A]

I understood everybody wearing aluminum foil to Beyonce. Okay. It's Beyonce. She asked y' all to put on aluminum foil. Y' all did. My mom flew to Houston, went with my girl. Everybody came out in their best aluminum foil. We totally understand. It's Beyonce. Let it go. And a lot of good looking women in that aluminum foil. For sure. I don't think every artist need to roll with the theme of my album. Album fans dress up to my show and.

[B]

But it speaks to the artist. If your fans are willing to do it. That's fire my dress.

[A]

Yeah, but I don't think they have a lot of wedding stores in Brooklyn.

[C]

Oh,

[A]

is the part that is getting lost, like, all right, cool. It's a wedding. But in right there in Brooklyn, probably

[C]

a lot of Zara wedding dresses dumb.

[A]

That was coming in n boy. And the gay drop dudes was putting on the the wedding. Like, move with the lace. You don't move out the. That's the.

[B]

That wore lace at his birthday party.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

I did.

[E]

You wore a lace at your birthday?

[B]

Nipples out nation. Nipples out.

[A]

A couple years ago. Then all of these non fashionable niggas laughed. And the second I wore it, all the NBA niggas went and stole my whole swag like they've been doing for years. But we can't say it. Yeah, I mean, don't worry about it.

[E]

No, but everybody dressed like t teachers for Cardi. I didn't get that. But whatever. I guess that's the new thing, bro. I dressed like that. Did y' all notice the card?

[B]

I didn't go to Cardi.

[E]

They doing like Catholic school, girl. Like what I wear on my birthday. Like that Catholic look.

[C]

Everybody teachers.

[E]

I guess that's.

[A]

I went there.

[B]

Wait, they need to announce.

[A]

This is arena of school girls.

[E]

I don't know anything. I keep saying teachers, but the school

[A]

girl look, that's very different from teachers.

[E]

It's something Ivy is that I'm missing probably the name of the tour or whatever. But that's what everybody wore to.

[A]

Girl, I'm going right now to look up Cardi album cover and see what the hell is happening.

[B]

No album covers.

[A]

Cardi B. Am I the drama red outfit? Where the school teacher from Outfit?

[E]

Y' all didn't notice it on your timelines when they came to Jersey or whatever? When she came to Philly, everybody had on school. And it wasn't just Philly. Atlanta did the same. Same thing.

[A]

Everybody in Brooklyn don't need to wear white lace. That's all I'mma say. I'mma leave it at that. Because everybody was kind and it was a good. They let you good vibe in there. They showed me a lot of love. They shout me out, which let me know how big of a bird I am.

[E]

I'm confused. Are birds bad? Is that the same group or no?

[A]

No, there's some overlaps, but they overlap. No, but.

[E]

So what are birds like hood rats?

[C]

There's some overlaps.

[D]

Some overlap. Once again, by the way, Cardi, I just peeped your Cardi thing. Yes. Cardi just announced this is the look for my tour.

[B]

That was the look.

[D]

She said, this is what I want y' all to wear. That's even. That's even harder to do. You just tell people, like, just make a dress code for your concert.

[B]

I love it. She announced that. That was. That's amazing.

[A]

How many people y' all think could get this off?

[C]

Not many.

[B]

Not many. But that's what I'm saying, though. It speaks to the artist. If your fans really follow what you said. I say not many. I think a lot of could get this off off today.

[E]

Yeah, me too. I just.

[D]

I think a lot of people just want to easy do it.

[B]

A lot of people want to belong.

[A]

Y' all should let one each other talk.

[E]

I don't think it's a fandom thing. I think that it's just nowadays, like easy matches says tell you what to wear. And I think that's why people do it more than anything. I do know what you. Where you coming from, but I just think right now people love a theme. So it's like the fact that in. In the Queen sets the tone. So the fact that Renaissance everybody wore foil is the truth that now it's like a thing like almost who can out outdo the other one in that lane.

[A]

And she had all.

[B]

Everybody dressed up like Cowboys. Yeah, I remember that Chris Brown I seen. I was wondering mad in there with football jerseys on. But I guess the Breezy bowl theme that ain't had nothing to do with it was just mad football jerseys in there. So I'm like, I. I like that though. And I think a lot of people could get that off because people just want to. Want to fit in, want to belong.

[A]

Football jerseys. No, no, I know it was. But they took them to arts and crafts. They went. They went and got some scissors.

[D]

See that?

[B]

That's. That's now. Now that's the level of fandom them was.

[A]

And they was. It was Gronkowski nude. They just kept like the Gronk had a rough game. Was negative.

[D]

Had a rough game.

[A]

Joe them was naked at that Chris Brown.

[B]

It was.

[A]

It was. I was with my girl like, honey. Do you believe how they're dressed in the rain?

[D]

Look at her.

[A]

Look at her.

[D]

I'll be right back.

[B]

I gotta go get you a drink. Stay here.

[A]

Oh, man. Oh, my God.

[C]

Anyway, did I say that Chris Brown got a doctorate?

[E]

Yeah, he's a doctor.

[B]

Massive.

[A]

Trying to trigger mark both.

[D]

He got his doctorate this year, his honorary doctorate from Harvest Christian University.

[B]

Salute. One doctor to another. Salute.

[D]

And then after that, he posted I didn't tell y', all, but in 2022, I got my master's of fine arts. He said I've been moving silently but growing publicly as he got his master's in fine arts from Harvest Christian University.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[B]

Let me ask.

[C]

Congratulations.

[E]

ICDC College.

[B]

Can you get the honorary masters? I've never heard of it. I'm asking.

[D]

No, I mean, in theory you could, but his honorary. His master's doesn't say honorary on his master's.

[A]

No, he does.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. But Harvest Christian University does offer degrees. There's no clear course work for it, but they do say that they offer master's degrees. And they say that the master's degree, you could take life experience into account.

[A]

Oh, sure.

[D]

So in theory, you could get a master's in something.

[A]

What's the name of the school?

[D]

A Harvest Christian University. First of all, salute to Chris Brown. I don't want people to think I'm shitting on Chris Brown's masters from Harvest Christian University. I think that that's dope. I think it's dope, and I like that people are celebrating education. They could be celebrating lots of things.

[A]

You can't help yourself.

[B]

He can't. He can't What? He got shit on a black man?

[D]

No, I'm not shitting on him at all. I have no issue. I'm exhausted from the.

[A]

What a dick.

[D]

What did I do? First of all, park set me up.

[C]

I did.

[A]

I'm like Mary Barry out here.

[D]

You know, he said it. But basically, I'm just tired of people talking about degrees right now. I'm degreed out. That's it. It ain't nothing about Chris Brown again. I'm glad Chris Brown is celebrating education. There's a lot of people who admire Chris Brown who follow Chris Brown. And if they say, look, maybe one day I too, could get a master's degree or a doctorate degree, hopefully from.

[B]

Don't say it.

[D]

You know, an institution that they care about, whether it be Harvest Christian University or an accredited institution, I think either way is dope. I just like. I like artists. They could be celebrating a lot of shit. It's all true. That's true.

[C]

That's true.

[D]

So salute to them. But I'm just tired of it. Cause it's like people say they got this degree, and then the bougie people or the academic people say, that's not a real degree. And then it turns into a whole debate about that instead of what we

[B]

could be talking about. That's what it is.

[D]

Which is about, like, how we could grow.

[B]

Because they keep saying they're trying to gatekeep University.

[D]

Well, I just want to. I want to make sure that people understand where the degree is from.

[B]

Because you said it 77 times.

[D]

That's what we always do.

[B]

When people get their degree, they trying to get want. They want to gatekeep the degrees, and they. They the only ones that can get them Now. Now getting the degrees. We don't want to talk about it no more.

[D]

I only want people who went to school to get them. That thing is dope, though.

[A]

Shout don't work no more.

[E]

Every time he can't fit get broke.

[A]

I was trying to give you a little harvest for the world on the music. My ain't acting right over here.

[D]

Take out with the harvest. Christian universe.

[E]

That's the problem with that shit.

[B]

It's your man, you know?

[D]

Yeah, but it's not about. It's not about Chris Brown, though. Again. I'm happy Chris Brown is celebrating this.

[C]

He's dropping the dogs too, right? Freeze.

[B]

That's right. Ten more joints June 19th.

[D]

That's what's up, man.

[A]

Oh, good. I want to hear more Chris Brown

[B]

songs saying, he put it out there. He got 10 more records. The deluxe is called the Chocolate edition of the Brown album, and it's coming out June 19th.

[A]

The chocolate edition. Oh, that shouldn't be Chris Brown. Now, see what you did there, See? All right. We just doing whatever with album titles. See? Anyway. All right, what else is important, unimportant. What else needs our attention? Oh, real quick to go back to the game. What did y' all think of the streaker?

[C]

Oh, I thought that was great.

[A]

What did we think of the streak? Oh, y' all ain't watching Love is blind.

[D]

We watching love. The dude that took the picture of Wimy. Yeah, the streaker.

[C]

He had his clothes.

[B]

He made him naked.

[D]

Joe thought of him as naked. Yeah, the rest of his.

[B]

But let me tell you what I think that was a bet. Some polymarking shit, nigga.

[A]

It's way up there.

[D]

It better be worth it, because he got worth it.

[B]

Will somebody run on the court? Yes. No. Oh, I can make it happen.

[A]

Yo. Hey, streaker dudes keep that shit in football. In Park's wedding.

[C]

You the streaker, Sort of.

[D]

Come on, you can't leave me down.

[A]

He always tries to knock the strike out sort of. What?

[D]

What?

[A]

Mark has the best wedding story. Go ahead, give Mark a little bit.

[C]

I don't know how to say it. Politically correct. There was a trans person, decided to do a show in the reception. Unrehearsed on un announced.

[D]

Was it unrehearsed? Unannounced. Cool. Did you know?

[C]

I did not know. Balls hit the floor apparently.

[D]

Yay.

[C]

And spilled some red wine on my wife's dress. And then it was a big hubbub and to do. I think we told the story up here a little bit, but. Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Did you.

[D]

Did you kick. Did you kick them out?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Okay. Was every your people or her people?

[C]

Pride month, Mark. Happy Pride month.

[A]

Happy Pride month.

[E]

Did you whoop his ass?

[C]

No, no, he was unharmed.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

It wasn't appreciated and it was. It was inferred upon him.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

That's why I want to shout out the NBA security. Because Homeboy 2 was unharmed. And if we going to be unharmed now, he was arrested and he got a lifetime ban from all arenas. However, if we going to be unharmed, then why not? Yeah.

[D]

In football.

[A]

No, they're going to break your neck.

[B]

They whoop your ass.

[D]

Yo.

[B]

What you going to be on the ground? No, they going to whoop your ass.

[D]

Me and.

[A]

No, they're security.

[E]

But it's just a different energy.

[D]

Yeah. I think it'd be a prepare for it either way at all. Yeah, yeah. Like NFL is used to it now.

[B]

Somebody all the time, they are ready for this. They got jail cells and in the back. And when they get you back there, they whooping your ass. I'm telling you this from personal experience.

[D]

I know you got your ass whooped.

[B]

No, I was security. Security.

[C]

Oh, he was whooping ass.

[D]

You whoop somebody's ass.

[B]

We definitely jumped somebody.

[A]

Dang.

[D]

Wait, what? Who. What were you in charge of? Security.

[E]

I.

[B]

We was your security, bro.

[D]

No, for what?

[B]

For the. For the Giants game.

[D]

Giants. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, but answer back when it.

[B]

Back when it was.

[A]

Hold up. Giants thing.

[D]

Hold on.

[A]

Why I say Mark. Come on, come on, come on, Mark.

[D]

It's not me.

[A]

Come on.

[B]

I'm only.

[C]

Come on.

[D]

You know I don't throw Mark. You do too.

[B]

I get in trouble.

[D]

I was genuinely just cuz Joe's trying to make a mockery.

[A]

It's just crying. It's just crying.

[D]

You got to.

[A]

That's why I don't. With this couch. It's crying. You got to look past is to look at Mark. You dono. And all you can say is Joe is. Joe is a dick.

[D]

Come on, cuz.

[B]

I know you for 20 years. I know you.

[A]

He crying and Mark said it.

[D]

And I can't say anything.

[E]

It's too obvious.

[D]

I just want to understand the story. The Difference is you're trying to make fun of Ice. And I just genuinely want to know who put you in charge of keeping people safe.

[A]

He was in charge.

[D]

It was a job like. Like y. See what I mean?

[A]

Like, who said security?

[D]

I don't feel safe. Let's get Ice.

[A]

Hey, he must have. He must have had a family member to work there. You know, one of them hookup jobs. Ain't nobody looking. Freeze like, hey, let's get him to protect.

[D]

Now I feel better.

[A]

Let's get him to protect these athletes.

[E]

A big part of that job is calling the police.

[A]

And I used to call, go, Mona.

[B]

He said, yo, we get him downstairs in the jail cell and we jump him.

[E]

Now that's. Now this what I want to know.

[D]

You were swinging.

[B]

We whooped his ass.

[E]

No, that's what I want to know.

[B]

I'm not going to lie.

[A]

Did you start pedophilia?

[E]

Did you start the attack on him or did you join in?

[B]

I didn't start the attack. You weren't first man through the door?

[D]

No.

[E]

Follow and attack somebody. I. That's terrible.

[B]

That's what all the security was doing. When we bring some. If somebody got back. Back from running out there, you was. It was like, yes. Whooping ass. That was a thing.

[E]

It turned to a homicide. You would have been arrested with that.

[B]

Well, it didn't happen, so. I don't know.

[E]

That's. You're right.

[A]

All right, but what was your first move when you got to the pal fam?

[B]

Everybody ran in there and was just whooping his ass.

[D]

So.

[A]

What?

[D]

What?

[A]

No.

[D]

What.

[B]

Yo, y', all, next time.

[D]

No, no.

[A]

Yeah, but you was taking too long. You gotta work.

[D]

You gotta working slow.

[A]

All right. How many punches you think you got?

[B]

All right, so four kicks.

[D]

Four kicks.

[B]

Drew has a new skit out.

[C]

That's strong words.

[E]

Reach out to the p. We want to talk.

[A]

Ice would have been the only. You know how. When are jumping one get caught Stab

[D]

the out of Ice.

[A]

It's always one running with the hoodie on.

[B]

I hate each and every.

[D]

No, you get your ass whipped in the joke.

[A]

All right, my last question. How long did you work there?

[B]

Two seasons.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

And your nickname was like the Enforcers or some shit?

[D]

What they call you?

[A]

What they call you you when it was time to get active.

[E]

I just know.

[A]

Yo.

[E]

I just know. Ice was a dick, bro. I know it. I know it. It's no more. Nobody's more of a. Than security. I don't give a. Where you at. Nobody's more of an. Than whoever Handles security.

[A]

Do you think you still got it?

[B]

Let's find out.

[C]

That's a great question.

[A]

Well, I don't want to buy. I don't want to buy all one of them.

[D]

Have you worked security yet other places, too?

[B]

No. Hell no.

[E]

Fight each other.

[D]

I didn't say. What did I do?

[A]

I've been telling you for years, we got to see him fold something up. We got.

[B]

See me fold.

[A]

We got to take him some down. Me is at it.

[B]

Y' all can say it, y'. All. They going see me fold.

[A]

Wait, you going to help the security and not me and is.

[B]

You said what, you going to help

[A]

them beat somebody up, but not help me and Ish beat somebody up?

[B]

Y' all ain't fighting today either.

[D]

But if they were, you'd be right there.

[B]

Yeah, just like with.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's believable. Them.

[D]

Why you always look at me?

[A]

These cameras is in 14k. They. They see you.

[B]

I look at everybody when they're speaking.

[A]

You still crying. Look.

[B]

Parks talks. I look at you.

[A]

Got a full ish breeze look. For what, cuz? Why you still crying? Ain't that funny? This is that funny, though.

[B]

Trying to create my man crazy. I'm looking at the room, yo. I got the ill business joint I just put you. That's my man. 50 grand. Wow.

[A]

And you just put them on.

[B]

You know, jumping in it. I'm jumping in it. So hurt.

[A]

Oh, that. Oh, look out, y'. All. Look at Mark. Hey, it is what it is, y'. All not. Is she in the gym?

[D]

Oh, I, I, I know. It's true.

[A]

In the gym.

[D]

It's true. They both in the gym.

[A]

But the heart, you got to stay in there. Everybody could get there, but you got. You got to stay in there all summer.

[D]

We locked in.

[A]

I agree. Ice you back, right?

[B]

No, I back out. I started to step back. It's hard, bro. All right, listen.

[D]

Is your lady still going with you?

[B]

What you mean? To do what you say.

[D]

Is your lady still going with you? When y' all was going, did y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

The reason I'm asking is, cuz, sometimes getting. Sometimes going as a couple makes it easier.

[B]

No, no, she. She stopped first. She been stopped.

[D]

She ain't got the motivation.

[B]

No, it wasn't that.

[A]

What made you stop that, man. Just it right?

[B]

Yeah, honestly, it.

[A]

It's hard.

[B]

It's hard, bro. Listen, I'll be honest.

[A]

You got to get you a trainer and not the. Not the trainer to work at the gym like my mom told me. You got too. We be told well, my mom said. I said he had a trainer. My mom said, no, not that guy. He. He worked at the gym. He was just dead.

[D]

We got to get the boy.

[A]

That.

[D]

That was at your party.

[A]

It was a few trains on my part.

[D]

Yeah, of course it was.

[A]

Oh, I'm going be so snatched in my party this year.

[D]

That is a bird.

[A]

Now y' all better hurry. Y' all better hurry now, cuz his weight don't come to my fat. Don't come. Don't come to my n. I. I need steppers in my.

[D]

Would y' all do the ZPIC thing now. Now you see more people take it.

[B]

No, I'm still not doing that.

[D]

I know you're not gonna do it, cuz you working out.

[E]

But Mark. So that's the problem. Problem about announcing your plans because you come with your little dumb ass gym suit and your headband matching the wristband and the wristband looking like. And then they always be all high up on, oh, I don't want that. Them chicken nuggets. I'm on some. I'm drinking green. And then two days later, get quiet. And then they get mute. And then you back on the cheeseburgers just like the rest of us. Thought you was better.

[A]

I found a white lady on the Internet.

[C]

Broaden your horizons, huh?

[A]

Explain. I found a white lady on the Internet explaining where certain sayings come from.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, don't scare me. No, play it, nigga. No, I'm gonna play it. But this is. This is the first time I heard. Heard one of these.

[B]

What kind of saying?

[A]

And I had no idea about any of them. So I'm going to play it for y'. All. Play it.

[B]

Let her say the saying and then see if we know first.

[A]

I don't know if I can pull. You're not going to know, so just. And she's rattling them off. It's a quick clip.

[B]

All right, go.

[A]

Go ahead then.

[F]

Two weeks ago, rival households would attempt to steal brides from the groom on their wedding day. So grooms would ask their right hand man or friend to stand next to them during the ceremony.

[C]

Okay.

[F]

Thus providing protection for the couple while doing their vows. This man was known as the best man. The knobs on an organ are also so whenever the organist would want to play as love.

[A]

Who the hell knows that about a best man? I never do that. And if that's where it comes from, why are we still saying that? Like some things need to be updated? Like that whole master bedroom. We changed it primary.

[B]

Whatever you.

[A]

You calling that, if this is what this means.

[D]

Call it a master, but it's tradition.

[B]

And it's not a bad tradition.

[A]

Mark, stop calling it into your bestie.

[E]

Bestie. Almost. It just morphed into your bestie.

[A]

That's all she talked up. All right. No, here you go. Let me bring it back.

[F]

The groom on their way day. So grooms would ask their right hand

[A]

man, I won't pause it anymore.

[F]

I'll let it play next to them during the ceremony. Thus providing protection for the couple while doing their vows. This man was known as the best man. The knobs on an organ are also called stops. So whenever the organist would want to play as loud as possible, they would pull out all the stops. In Greek mythology, they say that Achilles was dipped in a river, which gave him powers of invulnerability. However, his foot did not touch water.

[A]

Water.

[F]

Later, Achilles was killed by an arrow to his heel, which gave us the term Achilles heel. Military ships are required to fly their flag, so pirates would sometimes fly a friendly flag so they could get in close proximity to another ship. Once they got close to that ship, they would unfurl their real flag, thus showing their true colors. False flag stagecoaches. The person riding next to the driver would carry a shotgun to protect them on their journey. That's why riding in the front seat is called riding shotgun. When soldiers would get wounded in battle and didn't have any anesthesia or pain medicine, they were given a bullet to bite down on. This is why in tough situations, we tell people to bite the bullet. The voting system in ancient Greece consisted of them using beans in jars to cast votes secretively. So if you knocked over the jar, you would spill the beans.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[E]

He's wrong. We did knew a couple of them.

[A]

I knew a couple of them.

[E]

Yeah, to bite the boot.

[A]

I didn't know. I only say what y' all would know. I knew a couple. I didn't know none of that shit.

[B]

I know the Achilles shit. Yeah, I knew the Achilles one.

[E]

Some of that. He did not know the Achilles one.

[B]

Come on, bro.

[C]

He broke his Achilles.

[A]

He knew that one.

[B]

Not just that. Yo, the Achilles mother could dip him in the shit and the only place she could hold him was by his foot. His whole body was impenetrable.

[A]

Listen, I believe you're a prodigy. Nigga, you ain't gotta talk to me. They can't convince me. Meet my boy. Ain't no prodigy. My knew all that. I ain't know anyway, what else is important or unimportant? Important. Mark, you didn't Give us Rick Adelman, but I know you got something for peo.

[D]

Oh, of course.

[A]

Oh, oh, of course. I mean, we have to do it now.

[D]

I. I didn't think if we were so happy. I was. You caught me off. I was gonna go to Drew, but. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Let's go.

[A]

And it's Saturday.

[E]

It's Saturday.

[D]

I get the days mixed up. He killed that.

[A]

He absolutely killed it.

[D]

Another one. I mean, killed.

[C]

What.

[A]

What. What did Juski do? Tell our. Tell the people that don't know about Juski.

[B]

He. He did a skit as the. The. The old who refuses to basically grow old.

[A]

Y. He was shooting it flip.

[C]

Indeed. That's the first thing I thought of.

[E]

Like, that up until the end when he takes Jada become Muslim. Then it. What funny no more. But I like. He nailed it, though. Like, I couldn't even. It's so accurate. I couldn't even repost it. Like, that's how much. Like, it was too much. It was too much.

[B]

And you. They do take their. Where they finally want to grow up.

[E]

We ain't doing that.

[D]

My.

[E]

It's funny, though. It's hilarious. Down to the baldy, like, and him learning technology. I'm gonna go live from now on chat. That's what I'm doing now, Chad.

[B]

They can see the galaxy. Okay, I see you. Thank you for the galaxy.

[E]

Yo, Drew, Ski is on a roll, bro. Yeah, that's a good joint.

[D]

This is the closest thing. I don't think it has the Quite the political edge, but it's the closest thing I've seen to Chappelle.

[B]

Chappelle show since.

[D]

Since the Chappelle Show. You know what I mean? Just in terms of the. The consistency of the skits, I agree. They're memorable. They're smart. They're hilarious, man.

[B]

And accurate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I saw Internet people started naming people

[B]

who they started showing up.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Could be that character Steven Jackson. I wouldn't say Steven Jackson.

[B]

That's my man.

[D]

That's my man.

[B]

I feel like Stephen Jackson actually has the video. They found it and posted it where he was like, yo, I'm outside in o'. Block. Look, I'm here. Check it in with the youngest out here. The same shit he did in the skit. I know that's your man. So you don't want to point it down. I know. I get it. Cause you again, back to that relationship shit I told y' all about.

[A]

Oh, shit. Got that mark. Shish kebab on the grill. Got that mark on the grill. That forming grill. But it was funny.

[B]

It was.

[A]

It was very funny.

[D]

It was a good skit.

[B]

It was a great skit.

[C]

I feel like we should call Flip.

[B]

I didn't even think about Until y' all made them other connections.

[E]

I never.

[A]

I don't like for any of y' all to think I'm thinking about y' all when we not at work.

[C]

That's fair.

[A]

Or when y' all not at work.

[D]

That's early over there. Flip still. They still in bed.

[A]

If I call Flip while he in Trinidad, he going to think he has. That's like intrinsic value. Oh, my God, man. That's bad.

[B]

Yes. Yes, Joe.

[D]

Oh, yo.

[B]

Every time you say, yo, that's bad, it be some bad.

[A]

Always bad.

[B]

Yeah. If you gotta ask.

[A]

Well, I mean, it's good to learn what's bad.

[B]

Gotcha.

[A]

Gotta always remain in a teaching state.

[B]

Biggest room is the room for the more humility. I thought that was coming next.

[A]

Is there any music that needs our attention?

[C]

We got Vince Staples of Crybaby. He's dropped a couple singles and really, really great videos last couple months. It's kind of like a. It's.

[B]

It's kind of like a rock album. Yeah, it was alternative a little.

[C]

Yeah. And I think he did it really well. It's a lot of political messaging.

[A]

Yeah. He's been on that a lot lately.

[B]

I love that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What politics?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, he's always been fairly political.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I mean, compared to some of his previous projects, in terms of going alternative, I like this a lot more than, like, when the Edmish kind of shit came out. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. I don't have no super deep dive. Cause I only listen to it once. But. But. Shout out to Vince.

[A]

Shout out to Vince. Vince, I miss you, man. Word.

[C]

Come hang out with us.

[A]

Come up here if you're ever in New York. Don't come while the Knicks in the finals. It's a mad house.

[D]

Who's on the. And forgive me if we talked about it on Patreon, but I don't think we did the. The tiny desk list. That whole season's opening up. I saw the flow tree one. Did y' all see the flow tree one yet?

[A]

No, No, I haven't seen it.

[D]

They absolutely killed it.

[B]

I'm sure I saw clip. Oh, my bad.

[D]

It's good to see them back together. They. I mean, they did everything you'd expect them to do, but they sounded good. The music, the band was amazing. It was great. But I know there's A whole new season of Tiny Desk coming out right now.

[B]

So what they're doing is for. For June. Well, black. Black Music Month, the upcoming Tiny Desk. Like you said, you saw Flower Tree, they got Bow Wow, Fred Hammond, Eve the Paradox, Aristar, Joe Shaboozi. And it says Gina with live and Kareem Riggins.

[A]

I'm not familiar.

[E]

Eve, it should be cool.

[B]

Eve gonna be dope. Joe. Joe gonna smoke that.

[D]

What I love about Batini Desk is they don't just. They haven't gotten away from the thing that made them successful. Like, they don't just go and chase the biggest names all the time.

[B]

Right.

[D]

You get some big names, you get some people who have projects coming out, and you get artists who have a cult following.

[C]

True.

[D]

So, I mean, you'll get everybody from. From like juvenile to like no name, you know? I mean, like, so you got even in hip hop across the genre of great artists. Like, I just love how they do it. So shout out to them.

[A]

Bryson Tiller dropped the low. Oh, okay.

[C]

Yeah, I know it's an album.

[B]

Oh, single.

[C]

Single. Okay.

[D]

You got my attention yeah. No stopping the show the best of both worlds? You hiding you cold I'm trapped in a boogie is dropping it low but if you trying to link and touch my mat I'm dropping it low.

[E]

Come here.

[D]

Ones.

[E]

I had plans to make you mad

[D]

I had a plot on the low honey, she one of the ones. I just do all of my ones, you know when they get. That's why you're not trying to go Y. When it's time to leave you're not trying to go Sh. When it's time to leave you're not trying to go I'm making you mad I can't let you go I had a plan to make you mine I can't let you.

[B]

Okay, I like it, though.

[C]

Sounds good.

[A]

No, I like it too.

[B]

It's cool.

[A]

I like it too. New blast.

[B]

Oh, word.

[A]

Blast. Sasha Keeble.

[B]

Okay, I didn't catch this.

[A]

This record is called Ruin. Good to hear. Blast. And Sasha's on a heater. Hey, wait a minute.

[C]

Sound like real music.

[A]

Word problem solving. It should never ever take this long. Back and forth with you is like turning off my favorite song. Child is way too grown and reflect

[B]

and just say who wrong? I guess I take it wrong Let

[A]

me sit back cuz you say I

[B]

stop off with the hurt and my

[D]

fault, my bad better in the do

[A]

don't judge my heart I'm far from perfect but then to put the work in with you don't let this ruin a whole thing. Whole thing. Up my groove. I'm trying to let Sasha come on real quick work. That's brand new blast featuring Sasha Kennedy. Record is called ruin.

[C]

Sounds good.

[A]

Yeah, no, glad to hear new blast. It does sound good. Pause. Yeah, you can't hear a new blast. What? You was standing around speakers also while I'm here. Yay. Ali snuck something out I want to say last week, but I with yeah, I leave too much to not say nothing about it. EP is called after you left. This record is called speaking terms. Track 3.

[D]

Hawks came on the floor courtside with my baby. Passport stamps is co. I know that you want to explore. I know you like trips to Sephora.

[E]

Baby I can be your best friend

[D]

or your husband or your whore three

[E]

your favorite things about me but it's so much more. I shouldn't even flirt with you until you get divorced.

[A]

You get the point.

[C]

Sounds dope too.

[A]

You get the point.

[C]

We got a deluxe from Freddie Gibbs, only you only die once, which came out what year? Two years ago? Ten new songs. Two of them are skits. Three of them were already on the little EP that he dropped last week. I like the new ones that we got, but it wasn't. It was a weird way to release. I guess I would say to do a three pack and then do.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know what's going on with it. I like the music. So, yeah, that was. That was it for me.

[C]

That's. That's all that matters.

[B]

I didn't understand it, but. Salute.

[C]

Yeah, Salute. Shout out to Gibbs.

[A]

Nah, ain't no salute. I'm looking for this new number in my phone. Talking about some salute. The Internet said he dissed me on that.

[C]

Oh, he did?

[A]

Yeah. That's what the Internet said.

[C]

I wouldn't call it a diss. He put your name in a chorus.

[A]

I don't think this the number. So.

[B]

So the Migos.

[A]

The person you have dialed is not able to.

[B]

The person you dial ain't with you.

[A]

Nah. Freddie, my man. I love him and he loves me. There's nothing he could say on the record to make me unlove him.

[C]

He just says she's a jump off like Joe Budden.

[A]

Huh? No, no, no, no, no, no.

[C]

Or something to that effect.

[A]

I don't love them like Joe Budden. She a jump off.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Well, saying what you.

[A]

So are you just referencing like Joe Budden? Jump off used to be my nickname. Or you saying that's what I was thinking. I love them.

[B]

I don't love.

[A]

Cause I do love the jump offs, too.

[B]

I don't love them, period.

[A]

I used to love them.

[B]

She's a jump off. Like Joe Button, period.

[D]

Yeah, that's how I heard it.

[A]

That's how I hear.

[C]

That's how I heard it.

[A]

That's how I hear.

[D]

But I'm glad you said that thing about there's nothing. There's no joke coming. He said nothing he could say on wax that would make you stop being friends with him. Because this couple days ago, Ice and I were watching. A couple days ago, Ice and I were watching these Dame Dash interviews. I don't put nobody else on it because we're obsessed with, like, car crashes.

[A]

Yo, you are uncultured. I ain't gonna hold you.

[B]

Y' all watched my last.

[D]

Every minute of it.

[B]

I watched my last Dame Dash interview. I will say that.

[D]

Like.

[B]

But I did.

[D]

Not me. Damn. If you got one viewer, it's me.

[B]

It won't be me no more. I can't.

[A]

Mark is beat enough to do that.

[C]

I heard 90 seconds of it, and I was. I didn't need to hear anymore.

[B]

I saw about five clips, and then I was like, all right, I might as. At this point, I might as well just watch. I keep seeing these clips. Let me just see the entire entirety.

[E]

I'm good.

[D]

I watched the whole 20 minutes. There's been different stages of Dame Dash. First of all, it's like, I'm too cool to talk about that shit. Why y' all keep asking me. Then it was like, all right, I'm gonna talk about it, but I'm gonna be subtle. Then it was, I'm gonna talk about how I was mistreated, but I'm never. But I'm still gonna honor what we had. Then it was like, you know, this last two phases have been, like, crazy. Specifically after the Roots Picnic freestyle from Jay, now it's like, all bets are off.

[E]

I was gonna ask you, like, how did we get to your birth smell like dookie and big red. Like, what is that?

[D]

That's the post.

[B]

That's the post of the freestyle.

[D]

Yeah, that's the way he just.

[B]

Shoot now. It's just. First off, the fact lost me where he said. The fact that he's responding. He must be broke.

[E]

He didn't say that.

[C]

He said that.

[B]

No, he said that.

[C]

We played it on here.

[B]

He said that.

[A]

Yeah. We keep reporting on everything Dame Dash does.

[D]

I mean, we got to. I mean, for me, this is either intervention time or this is our last time. Speaking on him, we got. This has to be it.

[B]

Last time for me.

[D]

You know, I don't like it. You know, the whole thing made me sad, to be honest, when I saw that interview of him talking about Jay's hair and his breath as a rat was crawling up the wall. Did you see the rat on the wall? Yes, as a rat was crawling. First of all, you can't diss nobody.

[E]

It was a rat on the wall.

[D]

Yes, it was a rat. Go back and watch that clip.

[B]

Watch it. Yes.

[E]

Where the fuck did he do the fucking interview? The subway?

[D]

No, he did it. He did it in the studio. There's the BMW there. You know, it's his. It's his. I'm saying that to say it's his studio. It wasn't like it was art studio. And as he's talking about Jay, there's a rat crawling.

[E]

A rat. Not a mouse.

[B]

No, this was a rat.

[D]

Not a mouse. Not an informant in actual New York state.

[E]

You all hear them sexy bones?

[D]

Squirrel or some shit was huge. And I was like, this is sad for all the reasons. Right? I hate to see a dynasty fall, but people go their separate ways. Joe made a really good point earlier when we were talking about this, which is it's been decades. Like, it's okay for people to separate. Cause I wanted a reunion. You're like, you don't gotta have a reunion. Y' all could just go, this, fine, cool. But to watch it end like this, where now people are spilling secrets, you know, people are telling people business. People are saying. I mean, it's just getting wild and it's crazy and it's sad. And for Dame, unfortunately, it's embarrassing.

[E]

Do you think he making it up? Or you think whole breath really smell like dookie with big red mix?

[B]

Do it matter?

[E]

I asked. Yes, it matters. Right now I want to know that as.

[D]

As a car carrying Hovinger and someone paid by ROC Nation, his breath always smells heavenly.

[A]

Okay, that was weird and gay.

[E]

I was about to say Paul. I wanted to say Paul's.

[D]

No,

[E]

Paul K. Moss. This one talking about his breath heavily with type.

[D]

It just. It just does.

[B]

It's just wild to see Dame go from interviews where he say talking about another man is. Whatever he called it. Chatty Patty.

[D]

Chatty Patty, though.

[B]

He called it some other.

[D]

Oh, among other things that we won't say during prime to do the.

[B]

Exactly that. That's all in such a short time.

[A]

Right?

[D]

All of it is bad. And he doesn't seem sober in interviews. For me, that's the Thing that can. There's actually the flag for me. He doesn't seem sober in in. And I feel like content makers. And this is. Let me take it off Dame for a second. I'm tired of seeing content where we get somebody get them on a couch or a chair, load them up with alcohol. You know, give them a couple dollars. I don't know what their financial situation is, but give them a couple dollars. I know he ain't doing it for free. He shouldn't. And then watch them.

[B]

It's the reality TV blueprint and hope for the best.

[E]

And it damn sure is the best. That was love and hip hop fucking oxygen. But now I will say in defense of that with me when I first started podcasting doing interviews with people people people. Some people don't even sit down until they get something up in them. So like I didn't even know to have alcohol cuz I don't drink. So I never thought knew to have alcohol at the pie film is until some people that people love to watch would say you got to give me some Titos before I talk. And we got to really get her saucy.

[D]

That's a fact.

[E]

Which is. That's because a lot of these people are performing. They're not being themselves. So they got to get into their little acting.

[C]

I don't think that was a rap by the way. I think that was someone standing up in the back background.

[A]

But no, no, no, no.

[B]

That was a rat.

[A]

Was a rat. Oh that was a slow molded.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Following him Pop. He ran.

[D]

It's definitely not a person. It was a rat. It could be a small cat.

[A]

It was an animal.

[D]

I'm gonna show you the clip. It's crazy.

[B]

Next time we'll show you Dame.

[A]

Dame. Dame. Is this Fall from Grace is sad to watch. If you knew Dame if you were familiar with his Rockefeller the dance like all of this shit looking at him now which listen they killed me for my take on that whole freestyle but a big part of it was I believe a lot of the people he dissing are mentally not there.

[E]

Agreed.

[A]

And Dame is one of those people before your breath stink. All of that. That Dane for who we know him to be telling stories of how he think hov was trying to bag a. Like what what like yo, what are you doing dog?

[B]

What do you.

[A]

That's outside of him beefing with Cam or beefing with just any of the people that you know. You made your. It looks away. It looks away. It's, it's, it's, it's yeah, yeah, it's like that.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like I can't watch nothing he do no more. Nothing. No interview, no podcast. It ain't. It ain't so entertaining to me to see him. Look, it's sad

[B]

a thousand percent. Dame was one of the people for me. Like, he's so smart that when you would see a Dame interview, you knew it was gonna be some gems there, so I would run to it. It's like I like hearing Dame talk. I like hearing 50 talk.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like certain people, they just.

[A]

Who else? What other dudes?

[B]

Not a lot. Dame, Jay, sometimes Joe Button.

[A]

Joe.

[B]

Who else?

[D]

Kevin Samuels, Mark.

[A]

Oh yeah, Kevin Samuels.

[E]

Joe.

[A]

Mark is on that list. For sure.

[B]

There are certain people. But again now.

[E]

But no Joe. But Joe as well, though, right?

[B]

No,

[A]

Mona wasn't letting him leave. It's Joe.

[E]

No, I'm just saying, like, you don't. You don't tap into when he does other stuff or even here. You just like. Like you don't really care to hear the talk.

[D]

Like when he's on Club Shay, you will watch it.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Mean, he watch everything I do.

[E]

Or like when he talked to Steve, man, that was a good one. The Steve, man, that was a good one. I didn't see any Michael Gore. I didn't see any of them Nicki Minaj.

[B]

No.

[E]

The army, the sniper Bull from the. All right, well, there you have it.

[A]

Turns out.

[E]

Yeah, I'm sorry I cut you off completely.

[B]

No, no, no, I just. But now to watch him go from. Cuz I look at him like a hip hop. Great.

[A]

You don't get to continue his point after he don't acknowledge Joe on you. A have to toss it back to him once he said Joe wasn't on the list.

[E]

I'm trying to.

[B]

It's bad to watch.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Promise me y' all won't come in here on Tuesdays and Fridays and. And put Dame on the board.

[D]

How about that?

[B]

Well, you see, I got up there people I don't want to talk about anymore.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And Dame is there. I have a lit. Like I'm looking at. Not even talk about. I don't even want to see. Like, I got Adrian Broner. I'm there. I don't want to see. I can't. If I see the name, I don't even want to click on it. I. I don't.

[E]

I'm good now.

[D]

I see you got Ray J up there.

[B]

Yeah, that's another one. I'm good at this point.

[D]

Funny you say that. Ice Because Ray J. And Adrien Broner, nobody cares.

[A]

That's the point.

[B]

Yes, they do.

[A]

No, they don't care. That's not true, y'.

[E]

All. I feel like. Cause we discussed Adrian Broner when it first went viral. I feel like the clips don't make me sad anymore. It's almost like he's, like, turning it around a little bit. Like. Cause he's not as drunk in the newer clips.

[C]

Clips.

[E]

Because it's like you got to take advantage of what you got. He's fat. He's not going to box. So now he's going to stream. You know what I mean? And he is kind of funny. He's a little entertaining. He's a little bit of an. And it's another thing. Sometimes I hate podcasters because it's like we're pretending like the. The addiction to watch the Fall From Grace is not a very American thing. The first thing I think about is Britney Spears smacking at people with an umbrella, shaving her head in front of millions of paparazzi. Because that's what we like to do here in this country street. We like to break you apart, break you down to the ground. And we love a good comeback story. That's what we do. That's an American thing, Mr. Podcasters. So please get off your pedestals. We talking about Damien. Adrian.

[B]

You can. You can. I don't care about neither one of them. All three of them. I wrote up there, you do what

[E]

you want to do.

[B]

I think that's a Misery Loves Company thing. And I think that be high up and common man be wanting them to be down there with them. And so they root for a nigga's fall off. I think that is disgusting.

[D]

I think. And I think podcasters just want to make a bunch of braid off people. And they don't care whether people are doing great, whether they're doing bad. They want to exploit all of that shit. And I. I hate that. I. I ain't gonna lie. I ever. I'm going to resist putting Dame Dash on the board because I don't want to watch. I don't. I don't like people's misery. I don't like that. But I'm attracted to the story. Like, I literally was up at 2am today watching. One of the things I was watching on YouTube was the Ray J Adrian Broner clash.

[B]

See, I'm at the point where, like I said, if I even see the name, I don't want to click no more. I've seen enough to where it's not Going to entertain me.

[D]

Really? Well, let me ask you, but go ahead, though. No, I was going to say, just on a different Note, does Cardi vs. Latto entertain y'?

[E]

All?

[B]

Not necessarily entertain it.

[E]

I fuck with entertaining. Them niggas, man.

[B]

Fill me in. I was gonna ask y' all where y' all stood on that. Whose side are y' all on in that?

[D]

I like that we talk about the big issues of the day on here. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

What's up with Lotto and Cardi?

[C]

Word?

[B]

Lotto's album. She. She dissed Cardi on the album. And are we sure she dissed on the album? Yes, she copped to it. They asked. She. She did an interview. I believe it was the Breakfast Club somewhere. And they asked her, where you dissing Cardi?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes, I was.

[E]

But technically.

[B]

Right, right, right. So then she tells the story. Listen, I was pregnant. Cardi calls me to do the Earthtown remix that was dropping right after her album dropped when they re really, you know, do like a deluxe. A couple days later. I did that. I did it for you. No problem. Then that's when the phone call came out, the leaked phone call where she was. She could say, I ain't like Lotto or something like that. So Lotto's like, yo, I thought we was friends. I thought we was cool. So for me to see that, I'm like, oh, this is where we at now. She said it took her two months before Cardi reached out to her. We. She said we on a texting basis. You didn't reach out to me for two months. You reached out to my sister, you reached out to my manager, but you didn't reach out to me for two months. At that point, I don't want to talk no more.

[C]

I get that.

[B]

I understand that, too.

[C]

It's reasonable.

[D]

Everything sounds reasonable. I mean, now, Cardi may have a different version.

[B]

So Cardi did. Cardi then heard that and she issued a long statement on X. If somebody could pull it up, wanna read it? But she basically, if you get it. All right, I'll summarize. She was saying, I understand how you feel. Basically, it was like, I apologize.

[D]

I didn't.

[B]

I wasn't trying to go there. I was emotional. I understand. I wasn't trying to diss you, But I do get the whole. If you felt that, well, why it take two months to reach out to me, bro?

[D]

This don't sound like a Cardi versus Latto thing.

[E]

It's not.

[D]

It sound like Latto just right. Exactly what you Just described.

[B]

But if Cardi's cop into it, then saying I'm taking accountability, oh, you have it.

[A]

Of course. You know what? He was gonna get it.

[C]

You want me to read it?

[A]

I'll read it. Soon as I get these chicken bites on me. I truly understand how you feel. And that's exactly why I chose to apologize publicly, because the disrespect became public on that call. I didn't even mean to call you that. I didn't mean any harm. There's a difference in what I said versus what I meant. What I could have said was, you were too forgiving and gave too much mercy in that situation. But it was a heated conversation, and I let my mouth get the best of me. When the call came out, I was eight months pregnant, had just released my album, and was extremely overwhelmed. Overwhelmed and emotional. That's not to excuse what I said, but to let you know where I was in my head. I genuinely felt bad about what happened in 2025 and 26. I made multiple attempts to connect. I spoke with your manager, your sister, even text you directly to take full responsibility. I always had love and respect for you. Always wanted to make it right. But making it right looks different for the both of us. I wanted to connect with you, but you wanted to address it on your own album. End quote.

[E]

Listen, I think it's a. I'm sorry. I think it's like squeezing a beef. I have been in that situation where I'm talking, I'm popping it, and then somebody. I did that to Mandy. I said I would beat Mandy up, and I didn't mean that. You know what I mean?

[B]

Why would you say that I was

[E]

mad about something else? That I just. I beaten the dead horse? Like, I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna talk about. You know, I mean, but it's like, at this point point, like, I'm looking obsessed, so it's like not to even bring back all the old up. But I'm talking about this person. I'm saying I will smack the out this person. And then, I mean, it's literally almost exact same thing Cardi do. Cause such and such, man can't beat me. I smack Mandy, too. It went just like that. And it's like, I like Mandy. Mandy has always been kind to me. So it's like, it's wrong. I publicly apologize. I sent that flowers because that's what you do. Do. I feel in my heart I could beat Mandy. I feel like I could beat you, y'. All. That's Just me. I'm from north. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, she had nothing to do with what was going on. And it was wrong. I feel like a lot of shit that we see in all this drama that get drawn out and dragged out is just because grown people can't come out and say, yo, I was wrong. Now when Lotto told it, like, oh, it was two months. I can feel that. Cause, bitch, it shouldn't take you too much to get around, right? To get to me, right? But at the same time, you was being a pussy. That's why she. She called you ass Lotto. Cause you was carrying it like a. That's just the truth. So it's like, I feel like it's not that deep. And they can just. And Lotto can decide. I don't want nothing to do with that. But to me, the way Cardi handled, that's how you're supposed to handle.

[B]

I agree with that.

[E]

As long as she didn't really take two months. If taking two months is a little like.

[B]

No. But she's saying, yo, I took two months. I was eight months pregnant. My album had just dropped, so life was lifeing. And I'm still apologetic for taking too much.

[E]

Don't take too much to apologize to me. Don't take. Take two months. I'm telling none of your.

[B]

Let me tell you something.

[A]

Lotto also said on the Breakfast Club interview that when it. When it happened, she was pregnant. That Lotto herself was pregnant. When you was calling me a pussy and all this. So whatever you were going through, I

[B]

think in today's society, my apologies matter. And I think accountability is one of the biggest attributes somebody have. So if I'm publicly saying, yo, I apologize to you, I with you, I'm trying to mend our friendship. I think that that shit matters, bro.

[D]

It does.

[A]

Somebody not being able to hold themselves accountable is a big character floor. You gotta look into that word.

[B]

True.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Another thing she did say on the Breakfast Club was that she would be open to having a conversation. This is what Lotto said. So this I took from that. If you saying, I'm open to have a conversation, and even if it was two months afterwards, she reached out to you to have a conversation, and your. This sounds like I wanted to get that diss off no matter what.

[E]

Yeah, agree.

[B]

That's what it sound like. Because prior to the record coming out, she reached out to you.

[A]

Well, I think she's saying, I was pregnant when you were reaching out to me.

[B]

I wasn't witness publicly dissed me. I want to get my public diss back. That's what it looks like. I got to get my shit off publicly and then we can talk.

[E]

But a pup.

[A]

But did she dis her on album?

[E]

She didn't diss her. She. When Ice went. It's just says you probably dis me. I'm gonna public this back. Elite call is not a public dis. You know what I mean? It's a leak.

[D]

But like Cardi said, it became public,

[E]

so I get that, but I'm just saying make it clear. I feel like what Cardi said, that thing y that Joey just read, I think that's exactly right. You knew you wanted to pop it on your album, so that's why you didn't respond when I reached out. Whether it was two months or two weeks. You feel me? That was the whole thing. Because I knew I wanted to get at you on this album.

[A]

But one don't negate the other. I could talk to you and still go pop it on my am.

[E]

Exactly. That's how I feel like. Why are you ignoring me? Just to say you'll have a conversation.

[B]

Yeah, that's, that's the part where it got a little tricky for me, but whatever. Yeah, I with Cardi stance on this.

[D]

I think Cardi was 100% wrong with what she did and she was 100% right with how she handled.

[B]

She owned it. Yeah, I think that's fire.

[D]

I, I, I respect that.

[B]

Even how she worded the letter. Cuz you know, Cardi could get. She worded the letter with sincerity and it seems genuine. I think that's fire.

[E]

Don't leak my phone call. I'm telling y' all now. Don't leak it. I'm telling you, Joe Ass not, but Joe Schmo from back home.

[D]

Of course. From North. From North.

[B]

From North.

[E]

It's my boy here. Yeah, it's extra. They gonna drag it out. It's gonna be like a 10 month thing when it's not that serious.

[D]

I think it's hard to drag it out when, when the other person apologizes.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[D]

I think, I think 90% of the will be resolved fast and easy. If somebody just says I'm sorry.

[B]

That's the problem. Don't want to apologize. Especially not publicly. Don't want to apologize.

[A]

We gonna stay tuned and see what happens at the end of this.

[D]

We'll stay tuned. You know, Joe, another thing I'm staying tuned to is Steph Curry's New Deal.

[A]

Yeah, powdered him up right there. That's right. Transitions improving on his segue.

[D]

Yo, yo. But this deal is amazing.

[A]

Oh, please.

[D]

Is it like a billion dollars or some shit? They said.

[A]

Oh, please. The last one was a billion dollars. It's only 400 million.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

No, you said a billion. His Last deal was 300 million. Last deal was 3.

[A]

I don't believe none of these deals about nobody. Let me just get my take out the way so y' all can have Fun with all 400 million. I don't believe not a word of that shit.

[D]

What do you think it really is?

[A]

Yeah, I was just gonna ask her. Sham.

[B]

And it's 10 years. Okay.

[A]

The last one was a lifetime deal. He got out of it and he A lot. And he alive.

[B]

That's.

[C]

That is true.

[D]

And he's alive.

[A]

Fair.

[D]

Okay. Well, then I'm saluting you, Steph Curry.

[A]

Yeah, Steph Curry. I'm gonna buy me a pair of Japanese kneelings just so I could toss them shits out of a moving vehicle on a highway.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

The kneeling.

[B]

No, it's the answer. It's the same that Kyrie sneakers with.

[C]

Oh, for real?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

They like. I'm not trying to be funny, but it's not.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't think kneeling is the parent company. I think the way he opened that

[D]

door, popped out and said, he take shoes serious.

[A]

I've been a year.

[B]

They said it's not Ansel. I'm sorry, you thought he didn't know

[E]

somebody popped his head.

[B]

I believe them if he was wrong.

[A]

Right. You usually do.

[B]

I'm talking about E. Oh, asshole.

[A]

Yeah, we're not wearing them kneelings. We not wearing the kneelings, dog.

[D]

I'm wearing the kneeling.

[A]

You're not wearing the kneelings.

[B]

No, I'm not wearing them.

[D]

I'm saluting. We are going to salute.

[A]

Steph Curry might not wear the kneelings.

[B]

Why though? Why would you not wear them?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Why would you not wear them?

[A]

Because I don't want to wear them.

[B]

You don't know what they look like.

[A]

I do know what they. I've seen them. Ish. What are you.

[B]

I'm saying, but if a nigga's gonna roll out a 10 year sneaker, you're gonna know what all 10 years gonna look like. You just sent saying it's like somebody saying, y' all wear Jordans. All Jordans look different.

[E]

Point.

[D]

Okay. Salute to Steph. Salute to your sneakers. Support black. Business. Support black.

[A]

Stephanie's just stealing money at this point.

[B]

Yo. And at the tail end of My career. If a offer me 400 Michaels for

[A]

10 years, I ain't mad at him now.

[B]

And they brand branching off.

[A]

Where you see me in the last

[D]

three months of this deal?

[B]

They branching off into like a golf line.

[A]

Oh, I thought. I thought you started that already. And they rewarded you somehow. All right, check, your man out is set. This is bigger than a shoe deal,

[B]

bigger than the signature series. This is the partnership of a lifetime.

[A]

Oh, my God. Shut. The future of Carrie Brad will be

[B]

powered by a company truly rooted in sports and innovation.

[A]

That's what told me this was some

[B]

creating quality products with sneakers that I believe in.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Continue to deliver at the highest level. The future of Curry brand is with Lee Ning. And it starts with Mr. Lee Ning.

[A]

Yo, when I tell y', all, he announced that like LeBron at the boys club, nigga, he dropped taking my talent. You didn't need to drop the beat out for. For kneeling. The future of. Who was even asking about where the future of the Curry brand is Gonna Live?

[D]

Nobody.

[B]

100 million. At the highest level. The future of Curry brand is with Li Ning.

[A]

You put some reverb on your voice to say Ni Ling did him though Steph Curry, but he's a grifter.

[B]

You could kind of see it though. He was teasing all, wearing all the different sneakers, wearing Nike, wearing Reebok. Like he was doing that and all. Yeah, he was wearing everything. And the question was, where is he going? Where's he going?

[A]

What?

[B]

Can't help yourself, bro. He was trying to build anticipation so that people want to know what's the move. And that's all. That rose that price up.

[A]

Hey, you got the nerve to announce this shit while the Knicks is in the finals? N if you don't take these kneelings the fuck outta here, nigga.

[D]

So disrespectful. You know, somebody's in the finals and they got a good endorsement deal or non deal. And that's Victor Wembanyama. His agent came out today and was like or the other day and said he's never taking a soda deal. That they've offered him millions of dollars to endorse these different soft drinks and he won't do it because he doesn't want to harm the kids. And I think that that's dope. That's the reason why I want Winby to win.

[B]

I just. That's the reason.

[D]

I mean, it's another reason hate is number one. But number two is I really like Wim Binyama. He's my next Star. But I like the idea that somebody saying, no matter how much money you give me, I'm not gonna do something to do harm to kids, man. I just think that's dope to him.

[A]

I mean, it is dope. It's also a privilege that you have when you hit the NBA. Right. As the salary cap reaches 700 gabillion,

[D]

he's gonna make a billion dollars just playing basketball.

[A]

Basketball, exactly. So he can say today he can pick and choose.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, so could most of them.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

And it's like if you're making 40, 50 million a year from basketball, plus your other endorsements, you don't got to take a Sprite commercial. We don't have the other endorsements yet. Like for example, Brian didn't have them other ones. Sprite was one of the first Sprite. And Nike Bron signed a hundred million dollar deal in high school. He got a Sprite deal early on too. Like, I mean, right around then.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, I just think it's. Once you get to a certain level, you don't have to do that. I think it's admirable that he ain't just go everything for the Spanky.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause they only targeting the top of the top athletes anyway.

[D]

Right. He's still in a rookie deal.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And when you have the risk of injury and all those other things, a lot of people gonna sign the biggest deal they can early on. And he's still in that stage.

[A]

Rookie deal for a number one pick.

[D]

Yeah. But it's still not what he's gonna have in three years or five years, assuming he stays healthy.

[A]

In the 90s, a lot of athletes. Athletes had to supplement the income with endorsement. Sure, for sure. Because it wasn't.

[B]

But so much endorsement money was more than they salaries.

[D]

For sure.

[A]

Salute to wimbie though. Maybe he can endorse creatine. Any type of weight gainer bulk up

[D]

after he wins the championship. I think a lot of opportunities are going to come. So we'll see him in two weeks.

[A]

Yo, I want my money in nickels from you. I want it in nickels, Okay. I want it in.

[C]

Kill him.

[A]

Yeah, for sure, for sure. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else is important, unimportant.

[B]

Nobody talk about this Ricky Chow situation.

[A]

They his gas station up?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah, you got.

[D]

Damn right.

[A]

Ricky Chow, ladies and gentlemen, is the gas. Is the store owner. The store that's connected to a gas station in Columbia, South Carolina. Who the young. The young black Kid went in there. Let me get his name because this is important. Rest in peace to him. Cyrus. Cyrus Carmich Belton. Carmack. Belton is the young dude who went in there. He went over there by where the waters were. The Ricky Chow and his family thought. And the wife was in it too. The whole family was in it. The whole family thought that he was stealing something. So when. When the. When he got out of there, the son followed him. The son followed him at some point.

[E]

Son and dad follow him, Joe.

[A]

But the dad is making it sound like he was following his son.

[D]

Right?

[E]

Oh, that was the lie. Okay. That's a lie, though.

[A]

Yeah, we don't believe that. But the son ran after him. Ricky Chow says he ran after his son to protect him from the young black kid who was running away from his situation. He was running so fast. The story is that he tripped and fell. The details get murky about whether a weapon, his weapon, because he had a gun on him, fell. But Ricky Chow's son screams, gun, allegedly. And that's when the father shoots him.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Things that think. I think people need to know, they might not know. Ricky Chow, the old man, he's involved in two other shootings, 2015 and 2018. Okay, I'm just speaking of what I know, right? 2015, 2018. Both times he is not arrested or charged. Right. And his claim is they stole and they threatened my life. So one guy still threatens his life. He shoots up the car six times into the car. Car. Another time, somebody steals and threatens his life and he shoots them. In that case, nobody, of course, he doesn't get arrested. But the guy who stole, woke up in the hospital, got charged for whatever he stole. Another hugely important part. The boy ain't still nothing. They. They claim he stole a water, and they find him with no water. That's a fact. Now, then it's like all this discussion about, did he have any money? He walked around the store. He didn't have money to buy anything anyway. It's just foolish. If you watch the cameras, when the boy walks in, the first thing they say to him is, hey, you know, you gotta put that book back down. Because they must have that kind of rule. In my opinion, when stores have those kind of rules, they already show what type of time they are.

[B]

That's true.

[E]

Okay, for sure. I have. Okay, let me see. Say on it. Okay. They asked him to put the book back on. He shops, he goes. It's a small gas station. Up, one out. Down, one, out, up, one out. The gas station is Clear. Mom watches him foot to foot. If you ever saw minister society, when a lady is sweeping around, that's exactly what mom does to this little boy. So the fact that they say that he stole something after you watched him like a. And it was no other customers, it just feels like you just wanted to plow somebody down to murder them. Especially when you have been involved in so many shootings and not got in trouble for any of them.

[B]

So you think you. You think you Teflon.

[C]

You are.

[B]

You seriously are entitlement.

[E]

It's disgusting. I feel like, like. Like I was talking about the other day. For me, I'm from North Philly. My first racial interactions were with Asians. I never lived around white people to have a white person call me a. My first interaction with a white person to have, like, a racial interaction was being bused from North Philly up to Northeast to a better neighborhood to go to school, which is like a common thing. But before that, my interactions were with agents that just act like they hated me, even though I frequented. Frequented their stores. Every. Every day. We talking about laundromats, Chinese stores where it's food and just convenience stores where you go get your every little bit of everything in the ghetto, where. That's where your epicenter of everything is. This store never no love Ain't nobody picture up in the wall. It ain't, hey, mom, this watch you grow up and she still give. Hurry up and buy. Get the up out of here now. And that's been my experience from the inner city, from Philadelphia. So it's.

[A]

Which is interesting, because didn't the blacks and Asians help each other escape and hide? And all of these agents have never

[E]

helped us do nothing. We've helped the Asians. I think time and time again, black people show up for these different causes. Black people show up and represent for the minorities. We would be tighter if we were closer. But what I notice is it's this proximity to white thing where agents feel like, okay, it's white people, then me, and then y'. All.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And I feel bad. Better to be able to say, oh, look at y'. All. And the funny thing about that is a white man will never accept an Asian person anyway. So it's like. It's a. It's almost like a joke. You know what I mean? Like, you chasing behind these white people to get this approval that you'll never give, all the. While being real up to the people that you really should be rocking with. Because we. Yeah, you know, we're minorities.

[A]

That's why the funny about it? I thought that the prosecutor in this case.

[E]

He did great.

[A]

Was killing.

[E]

He did.

[B]

You know what they.

[A]

He was absolutely killed. You know what I said, hold up for a second. He said, he said, well, what is your proto. We all protocol when somebody steals, say, oh, we got pictures that we hang on the wall and then we ban them from the store. All right, so where the did follow sending your kid to go follow this kid? They played some. They played some audio of the son sounding like he was gang. Gang murder. Murder.

[B]

Got one.

[A]

Yeah. So when he took the stand, they was on him about code switching. Why do you sound like this here? Like the innocent scared. But in this you sound like NWA Like. I thought that they were making so many just poignant points, great ones. And I can't believe that that was the outcome.

[E]

That's. That's where I'm at.

[D]

I'm not surprised. I mean, at the end of the day, the victim being black changes everything. I can't imagine. Imagine a white kid laying on the ground doesn't result in a guilty verdict. In a guilty verdict. I also can't imagine a black store owner doesn't result in a black in a very. Unfortunately, people think black lives are disposable. And so it's always easy to believe against all evidence to the contrary, that this black kid was about to kill somebody, even though there's no evidence he was shooting anybody. No evidence that he was pointing a gun at anybody.

[A]

Shit. We seen it on. On the other side with the black kid that's in jail now for murder of the white people at the school. When the white people.

[D]

Anthony.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. When they went over there and tried to bully him and well, whatever the

[B]

problem was, and some people are saying they think it's intentional, they didn't charge them with the right crime. So what happened was they charged him with murder. To get a murder conviction, you gotta have motive and intent, which means that these people intended to kill. They should have charged him with first degree manslaughter daughter, and they would have got a conviction. They charge him with murder is what they do to the cops. They. They charge these cops with murder. And knowing that you can't possibly win a murder conviction because you need those two things to stick to get a murder instead of charging them with manslaughter or wrongful death like that, where you gonna get it? They didn't charge him with the manslaughter and like that. And some people are saying they did that intentionally. That makes a lot of sense.

[D]

So that they wouldn't.

[B]

So you said you're saying the prosecutor was kicking ass, but you know, you kicking ass, you can't get the murder. This is all a farce.

[D]

I don't think they did it on purpose, but I think they're overconfident and they underestimate how racism works. Because, I mean, the kind of zealous. What did you say?

[B]

Especially in South Carolina.

[D]

Especially in South Carolina. I think they just thought wrong. I mean, I'm not against the possibility. I've seen people get overcharged on purpose for sure. I don't think this is an example of that. But I think you're right. They do sometimes overcharge. Knowing that they can't meet the. So that the person can get off, but they still look like they did everything that they could. Everything that they could. I hate that shit.

[A]

Yeah. Normally at the end of that case. I'm sorry, freeze. Normally, at the end of that case, they are able to, hey, if you don't get him on this, we are gonna add these other charges and see what y' all think about these.

[D]

Right, but you can add lesser charges. But at some point, you have to make a decision, did this person have a premeditated thought or not? Did this person have a mens. Ray, a criminal mind or not? And so the manslaughter and the murder, murder, things don't go together. But you could. But sometimes you get people for, like, possession, reckless, endangered. You can get a whole list of other things to charge them for here. They could.

[B]

What do you say to the instances where. Let's say they do charge. There's been times where, like, a manslaughter is charged and then there's public outcry of, no, y' all are charging him with something lesser. Y' all are being soft. Yeah.

[D]

And that's the other side of it. And prosecutors tend to try to roof you if they think you're guilty. I think that that's a really important point, that if they had charged him for that and they got found guilty and the guy got fired five years, right. Then they'd be like, this is all you.

[B]

Slap on the wrist, some like that.

[D]

So it's a tough thing to navigate,

[E]

especially when you look. Latasha Harley.

[D]

That's a great example.

[E]

Little girl in LA, in California in the 90s, it's the same story over and over or even. And I don't know if everybody has experience going and giving somebody your money and them being nasty to you and you continuously doing so, because that's Just where you get, you know what I mean?

[B]

Because that's the only shit you got.

[D]

You ain't got, we got.

[E]

So it's like, dare I say it, I'm not shocked at all. That Ricky child murdered somebody, he was just on his way. It's like it feels playing to me. You just waiting on to see which kill you can get and get off.

[D]

Because they don't think.

[E]

Because you hate us. And this is the thing, they hate us and they live amongst us. So that just builds.

[D]

No, they don't live amongst us.

[E]

Well, no, they work amongst. They have their businesses. Excuse me.

[D]

That's the important distinction because in North Philly growing up before the bodegas came, they were all we. Unfortunately we could Chinese stores, but they were Korean owned grocers. And I ain't never seen a Korean person in my neighborhood. But every store I used to go to was Korean owned.

[B]

And that's why I don't support that.

[D]

Yeah, I'm, I'm.

[E]

What do you mean when you say you don't support it?

[B]

Like I haven't eaten like Chinese food.

[D]

Yo, I get what I didn't see that guy Jesus took.

[E]

That's the last thing I thought you

[D]

was going to say, bro.

[B]

I don't support their businesses in our hood. I don't go to their companies. I, I don't buy nothing from them. Because when you go around, you know how back like when we was playing like football and basketball as kids, you go around to the local businesses and try to get booster money and shit like that to support. They never give you money ever. But they'll come to our communities, they'll sell us shit, whether it be hair products, leave liquor, Chinese food, all of that shit. And then they'll go move, take all our bread, clothes up. They feed you behind a floor thick ass, bulletproof glass, which is insulting. And then they take our bread and go live in a communities and they don't give nothing back to our community.

[A]

I want to point out that you speaking about your experience.

[B]

Yes, thousand percent.

[A]

I just want to highlight that because in Jersey City, the, the Chinese stores, they took care of the community.

[B]

All right, well that's my experience.

[A]

They was, they was on some of the roughest blocks. That store couldn't even been there if they weren't so nice and kind and gave. They bought the candy when they donated to causes. So I just want to be careful.

[B]

But that might be. I can't speak to their sincerity, but that just might be politics to stay open in the neighborhood.

[D]

I Can live with the politics though.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

What I'm saying is in our neighborhoods, them niggas didn't do shit. And so as a result, I have the ability to dictate where I spend my money. And I don't want to spend my money.

[E]

I respect it. I feel like. I also feel like, because I remember over West Philly 60th or something around that, that Chinese store around there, they call her mom like lovingly. And my daughter was little, her dad, that's her dad's neighbor and she would call her mom and going in there and that experience, it was so unique. My mouth was dropped. Cuz I had never experienced a older Asian lady that had been in the neighborhood that long that the people call her mom. That's how different it was.

[A]

That's what I'm saying about Chinese joint on Clearmont and West side. You ain't even have to ask them for extra sauce or nothing. All that she was going extra chicken rice.

[B]

And in our hoods knew all the

[A]

kids first the bag, they knew the killers first they oh come on, no duck sauce.

[B]

You had to pay like it's mad like yo, you can't. You got four dinners, they gonna give you one napkin per dinner like that. Like so my experiences and I lived in a bunch of different communities and it's always been the same with regards to my experience.

[E]

And listen to your man.

[A]

Probably different in the suburbs though.

[D]

And you hand over got different.

[E]

And listen, it's the same thing in the nailery like the people in there. And it's that close that you touch me and you massage me and you are disgusted by me in the n. The salon.

[B]

The nail salon.

[D]

Salons.

[B]

Nail salon.

[E]

Stop. I'm grown. I'm not one of these young spring chickens. We say Nel.

[A]

I know I dropped. Is that a word? I didn't know.

[E]

Oh, now this wanna play games? Somebody look at the up. I don't care if it's a word, it's a word. Today when I'm not mad at you in the Nelson. I know, seriously, in the Nelson you got that, that closeness because this lady's doing your nails every week. The act like she hates you, like she don't want to touch you. On top of the fact that obviously talking about you because you don't speak this language. So you say something. You pull out your grandma rusty ass foot. Now she say something to the girl back. Now the whole salah lashes. And then you think they talking about you.

[A]

Cuz they are better be careful now Boy, that translator, boy, I'll be sitting there recording your voice.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Nah, you ain't got to do that now. The AirPod do that on. On the spot.

[E]

And the metas do it. The meta app, too.

[B]

Start talking and speaking English, we can

[E]

make light of it all they want. Me personally, as a mother of black sons, I'm tired of watching people just kill and get away with it. I. And it's. And if the reason why I'm so upset about the Ricky Child thing is because I purposely don't watch the court cases because they win so much, so I don't watch it. But this. I caught that prosecutor live. And so they got it this good.

[A]

Yeah, he was cooking.

[E]

I just knew he was.

[A]

I did not understand how that. I didn't know.

[E]

It's upsetting.

[D]

Just the last.

[A]

I'm with Community justice, though. I ain't gonna hold you real shit. Hey, the courts could. They could run they shit. They could run their business however they want to run it, because it is indeed a business. But y' all niggas ain't gonna have your business dead smack in the middle with a hook hood act like that, and then commence to just going on about your. No, that ain't gonna happen. That's like that.

[B]

That's like the.

[A]

When the kid was running away in the Bronx from the gang members, and he went in the. In the. In the bodega, and they put him out. Yeah, yeah. No, y' all can't be here no more.

[B]

No, I was gonna take it there. Like, even. I mean, in our neighborhoods, it wasn't that much different with. They're bodegas. A lot of treated these black kids like dog. A lot of them treated us like.

[E]

I've had loving relationships, though, with poppies. I stole my first butterscotch cripple from Poppy, and Poppy walked up and smacked me in the back of my head. And I never even told because it felt like he looked at it like I was his kid. And I did steal the Crip it. To be honest, I used to love me a butterscotch. I would get a butterscotch picture put in my back pocket free so it could be nice and warm.

[A]

What?

[B]

And ain't nobody know it was there. That's how flat that ass was.

[A]

What about now, though? What about now? What about now, huh? That's why you be on her Facetime. That's why you be calling her every second now on a dick. What about now? Don't talk about back in the day. That looking. What it look like? Right now. Yeah. Sip your little tea, boy. You better sit there.

[D]

You see?

[A]

You see looking? You see what it look like over here now?

[B]

Yes, you did.

[A]

Yes you did. Yes you did.

[D]

You did.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. You see all this body?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Where's my camera?

[A]

That looking like something sitting on it to somebody that doesn't work with you.

[E]

It's upsetting. I'm tired of marching. I'm not with that. Y' all want to crunk with the police to hit the na. The police that it's time to get violent black people.

[D]

Well, one thing.

[B]

What are they doing to the store?

[D]

Another thought in addition, I'm not negating anything y' all just said, but just we gotta buy our own shit and control our own shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

This only happens in our community.

[B]

Only.

[D]

There's no way that in every neighborhood, every hood, we all from these different experiences and everybody shares one thing in common. Which is we didn't own the stores in our neighborhood. No one knows how to do nails in some special secret way. Nobody knows how to sell tasty cakes in some special secret way. Serious secret wages.

[B]

You know the other side to that though? We gotta support our own when we do.

[D]

That's what I'm talking about.

[B]

Cause what happens is nigga get a store. And now you want the hookup. Now you want the shit for free. Now you don't want to pay them. Yeah. Now it's too expensive because we own it.

[E]

I remember when the first black owned hair salon shout out to salon brilliance on 22nd street open. It was a hair hair supply.

[D]

Supply.

[E]

Because they are the top of black hair. That makes no sense. Zero motherfuckers that don't wear it. Don't have friends that we where. That's who you come to and say who do you think I should wish I should do when I want two ponytails and I want the first. It doesn't even make any sense.

[D]

But my. And it would never happen the other way around. I set up a shop.

[B]

Soul food store in Chinatown. See? See how long you won't even get a lease.

[D]

You even worse. A Chinese food in Chinatown. Cuz they set up black in the black.

[B]

That's true too. But again they not having it. Go to Little Italy and set up your soul food shop and see what happens. It's only us. My. It's only us.

[E]

It's just. And you know what? I was noticing y' all on Tick Tock like because of course it starts this big race debate, right? So this agent guy goes viral because he says, I hear you black people saying. Cuz a lot of black people were saying, don't support no Asian business. I don't give a what it is. Don't go back. People weren't just saying, not go to that gas station. People were saying. And that Asian guy came out and said, well, well, well, where you expect to get your liquor from or your fake hair from? And it's like everything he listed was terrible things, negative. A lot of what y' all sell in our neighborhood neighborhood is bad alcohol and fake hair and all this other shit. But I kept noticing kids being in the comments, like younger people saying stuff like, why do y' all hate us? That was making me so sad. Like little black kids asking some random white creator, Asian creator, well, why do you hate us in the first place?

[B]

Like he's like, where you gonna get your Nikes? Where you going? I saying it, where you gonna get your this from?

[E]

Like, Michael Jordan is an Asian man.

[B]

He was saying all that. But know it's the crazy part, the fact that he kind of had a leg to stand on saying that. Ignorant.

[E]

Why?

[B]

Because overwhelmingly the businesses that he named dominate our neighborhoods.

[E]

But you know why though? So why he got a leg to stand on? He don't know why. He don't know that coming from this country, from somewhere else, they get better loans than we do. We systematically been set up to not own nothing or have nothing in our neighborhoods. That's the difference. That's the thing that he does know. But you know, don't you?

[B]

No, I don't. I don't. I don't know that.

[E]

But you do know.

[B]

I don't.

[E]

You know, you.

[B]

It's another conversation that I don't want to get into.

[E]

Okay, we don't have to though. But you. You don't know why we don't own business?

[B]

No, I don't.

[D]

I do know.

[B]

Okay, But I don't want to have the conversation.

[E]

Okay?

[B]

Our priorities is up, and that's why we don't own business.

[A]

I hate when y' all do. Oh, brother, please with that. That is not why we. We don't own businesses.

[E]

Yeah, that's not the baby.

[A]

Every. All black people's priorities are not fucked up. So that's why there's no business. I hate when y'. All.

[E]

It's a systematic start with this white.

[D]

Let's have a conversation.

[E]

What's the reason we want to have it?

[A]

You don't want to have it. I'm not jumping it. But he said that. That irked me. That, that part, the onus we talking about a little black boy getting murdered in a store. Somehow we always get back to what black people are or are not doing. I want to just keep the focus where it's supposed to be. Got you? That's all.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace.

[B]

You said they. You said. What are they doing to the store?

[A]

You said it was tanning, Vandalizing it. Vandal, vandalizing. Throwing rocks. They can't open. You can't.

[B]

I couldn't even do that.

[A]

And the first day they had all

[B]

the police out there, no insurance money.

[A]

The first day they had all the police out there. And I seen that, I was like, this ain't going to last but for so long. You all can't have these fucking 50 cop cars out here at all.

[D]

And we shouldn't have to do that. We should starve the store if no one ever goes in there.

[B]

Don't burn it down. Don't do none of that. Because again, all they going to do is inflate the insurance quotes, get the money and go somewhere else. Just starve them. Leave them alone. Let them stand right there with zero business. And I hate the civil shoe. Is a remedy for. For somebody passing away and nobody being held accountable for the death.

[E]

If y' all think that them childs wasn't shutting that down when this was over, it's over. They know they can't be there. They know they cannot do that. They cannot operate that convenience store like that.

[D]

You know what the child. No, no. What the child will do is change the sign and we'll be back there in two weeks. And that's why we got to shut

[B]

the or sell it to one of their people.

[D]

Like, yo, we'll pay black people to work in there. They probably wouldn't do that. But.

[B]

But no, they will.

[D]

They don't last resort. They will anyway. Rest in. Rest in peace. While we on Rest in peace. I want to do a rest in peace to one of the greatest.

[A]

There you go. Get in your bag.

[D]

Singers.

[A]

Let's go.

[D]

Man of all time. You know, he is the sound and the voice of love and of soul of romance. I'm talking about people rising who passed away a few days ago after a stroke. And we know he'd had a heart attack maybe six years ago and recovered, but then the stroke took him over. But he is somebody who we often talk about as an elite singer, but I don't think we give him enough credit for everything that he was. And in some ways, he was the last of a dying breed. You Know he's somebody.

[A]

Whoo.

[D]

It's a good one. He's somebody who since the 1970s, has been just an amazing artist. He's collaborated with everybody. A lot of people know him first from the Capital Music era. That's when he did those amazing duet albums. He was one of the trendsetters with duet albums. You know, he did Natalie Cole, also Roberta Flack. I mean, amazing albums. And then he moves into the Electra Records era. That's when he started having those hits and those hits hits. He was special, man. He worked with Luther Vandross. He would try to make them rivals. But Luther helped produce his first. His first work. He was just different, man. Vocally, technically, he was special. And even. Even during the disco era, in 76, 77, when people were still making disco and funk records, he was like, don't forget about this soul thing. Don't forget about these ballads. Don't forget about the shit you're listening to right now. And of course, finally, he was. He knew how to make a pop record.

[A]

Goddamn right.

[D]

He did A Whole New World, which I didn't. That actually knocked Whitney Houston off the charts.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[D]

That's that song that knocked I Will Always Love youe off the charts. But I will, you know, whole New World. Beauty and the Beast, all those Disney tracks. He even gave soul to Disney for a fact. You know what I'm saying? He was just a different kind of dude. And he's the last of a dying breeze. So we send him love and his family love, and we will always play his music and remember him for the special artist that he was. For me. Tonight I celebrate My love is the joint.

[A]

But. Even when your wife is away on a work trip.

[D]

Especially when wife is away on work trip.

[A]

Hey, let my guy get his bag. Rest in peace, Peabo. We love you and we miss you, man. I'm letting this rock to the chorus. For a real one,

[D]

was this like 94. This a huge one.

[A]

Haven't seen the sun since you've been gone now that I'm older and can remember when my mom was playing something of these records over and over and over. Some had my mom up. Why was why she was blasting this like that? Cleaning the house.

[D]

My.

[A]

Let me stop she going to listen to talk about me

[D]

of you and me

[A]

hey.

[D]

All the love we made

[A]

all those

[D]

tender nights and those endless days they're

[A]

all here inside Baby, can you stop the rain? Rest in peace, people. I'd give anything to see the sun again Only you can stop feeling these tears from falling I can't face another day, baby can you stop? Can you hold up now?

[D]

Can you stop? Yeah.

[A]

Packed the money up with that one little line.

[B]

One line?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

They got the UPS, FedEx, everybody packing up DHL.

[D]

People was different, man.

[A]

No, people was him.

[D]

Yeah. He was special people.

[A]

Rest in peace, man. Listen, some say. Some say.

[D]

Yeah, no, I think.

[A]

I think so too.

[D]

It's a conversation. I don't think it is.

[A]

Is. Come on. Let's put the debate to bed.

[B]

What are you saying?

[A]

Let's put the debate. Let's put the debate to bed. Who has the best verse on Secret Garden?

[D]

Oh, it ain't no best.

[B]

People ain't on it.

[A]

Oh, I'm thinking James.

[D]

I thought you talk about a Luther.

[A]

That's what I thought he was talking about. Oh, no, I wasn't talking about that.

[D]

I was.

[A]

I was confused in James Ingram with P. I'm sorry.

[B]

I thought you did. It ain't really no best on. That's what I thought you would say.

[D]

It's no best. There's a best on Secret Garden, but I ain't going to be the best. James Ingram ate lunch or James Ingram

[A]

is the best on Secret Garden.

[D]

That and I like everybody's verse that

[A]

L bro, don't L. What Y.

[D]

He fought for light skinned falsetto man.

[A]

Falsetto. Get it done. You could have just stopped it at light skin. You could have just stopped it right there. Yeah. What are we talking about? Oh, really?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Man, who you texting on all them went crazy?

[E]

I'm Keith.

[B]

No I with no be now.

[A]

Keith want to text now. That body. That body right now. Keith on the line ain't the one

[E]

I want to text me.

[B]

Be

[A]

you are looking a little credit right? Wait, what y talking about?

[B]

Who knows?

[D]

Secret guarding Freddy Jackson the topic. You introduced this.

[A]

Don't Fred, please. Not Freddy. Freddy Jackson.

[B]

If there wasn't no Luther, Freddy would go down as something.

[C]

Freddy was fine.

[E]

If it wasn't no Luther is a crazy set of words. If it wasn't no Luther, it's a crazy set of words.

[A]

Don't do that.

[E]

Got them ankles out. You on some you got plans after

[B]

the pie go pick up your daughter

[A]

from and gone in lavender. Yo, this lies is so just blatant now. Nobody ever in the history of you look cute of girl dads pick their daughter up in a lavender short set with a they emblem on it. Nobody did that.

[D]

Yo, where are you going?

[A]

For real? You're not going to the Chinese store?

[B]

I'm going to pick up My daughter.

[A]

And then what?

[D]

I think that part.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

What sneaker he got on?

[E]

I said a fresh G. Ph. What y' all call them Uptown?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

We don't call them that, Philly. We call them forces. I think Air Force.

[D]

Air Forces.

[B]

I.

[A]

How many hits Freddy Jackson got, Joe?

[E]

Three.

[B]

A lot, Joe.

[D]

How many?

[B]

A lot.

[D]

Like 10.

[B]

Easy 10.

[D]

He got like 10.

[E]

That easy 10 is crazy.

[D]

No, it's not crazy. Let me pull.

[B]

Freddy Jackson

[E]

get the trigger. Words in the sentence.

[A]

Oh, man, I gotta ask my daddy. I gotta ask. He gonna get mad at me.

[B]

Yeah, I was ready.

[A]

I'm still here you go.

[D]

So you are my.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Enough of you. You. You said 10. Okay, I'm calling somebody else. I'm calling my lifeline on all.

[C]

He got a lot of R hits.

[D]

How many songs?

[A]

Yes, sir. Look at you at the card table. Like, what are you doing? Go home.

[E]

Own.

[A]

Why are you at the card table right now? Where you at?

[D]

Work.

[A]

Oh, how should I feel it? I mean, I'm at work. Hey, listen, quick question. I know you're a little busy. How many. Real quick. How many hits off the top of your head does Freddy Jackson have? Oh, true. How many hits you say does Freddy Jackson have?

[B]

12.

[A]

He got two of the biggest. All time. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. All right, so you don't know how many hits got. Yeah, he got two. He's with two of them for sure. That's what I was thinking.

[C]

By the numbers.

[A]

It's crazy.

[D]

I wasn't guessing.

[A]

Go ahead, back to your game. I'll call you later, by the way. All right, let's see. Freddie Jackson, Jackson's biggest career hit in 19 is his 1985 signature signature track, Rock Me Tonight. Of course, it became a massive R and B smash. Got. Got it.

[B]

But.

[A]

All right, here we go. Rock Me Tonight was his biggest.

[C]

He has 10 number one U.S. r&B records.

[D]

That's almost the exact number mark said.

[C]

And eight more in the top 10.

[D]

10, right? Oh, yeah, Yeah. I didn't pull the number up my ass. I already knew the answer.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Rock me Tonight. You are my lady. Hit, hit, hit you. I need to hear what the tasty love is. Let me see.

[B]

You know that song?

[D]

I. I got to see Love.

[A]

I just got to see. Let me. I can type it in right here.

[E]

I know you could sing.

[B]

I can't if I could sing.

[A]

You looking for any reason? God damn, you. Just freestyle. Oh, you can sing you don't want me to say what I think is neither one of y' all want me to say what? No, you do not want me to say what I think one of y' all say it neither.

[B]

I think it happened.

[A]

Yo, I warned them both that they don't want me to say what I think. In fairness, I think you on her body, she on your body. I think y' all took it to the red roof in one of these Fridays.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And that was it. All right, here we go. Let me see Freddie Jackson. Here we go.

[D]

Yo, this crazy.

[E]

Got no run that fast.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

I just got the job.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Why do I keep asking him?

[D]

The answer gonna be yes.

[A]

Oh, y' all better stop playing with Freddie Jackson.

[D]

That's what I'm trying to tell y'. All. Y' all bugging.

[A]

Now. Who's y'? All? Nah, nah. Y' all better watch y' all mouth. Hold up. All right, what else he got? Wait, why you take the list back?

[C]

Here, I got you. I'll keep reading.

[D]

Have you ever loved somebody? Jam tonight.

[B]

Do me again. Like, yo, what's.

[A]

Have you ever loved somebody? Go ahead, it's one of them.

[D]

Trust me. Freddie Jackson got boss so good. Yes.

[A]

Is that. Have you ever loved the money?

[D]

No, no, no, you're not. You talking about 55.

[A]

So what's his Google?

[B]

I mean, here, I got you. Park's got us.

[A]

I'm typing,

[E]

Daddy.

[A]

You bug it out. Hey, better watch y' all mouth talk about it.

[D]

Yo, you kind of.

[B]

Yo, you got some.

[A]

Yo, you got some bl on your today.

[D]

What are you talking about, yo?

[B]

Oh, my God, yo.

[D]

Oh, Luther.

[A]

Lucky boy.

[D]

Don't get carried away.

[A]

No, Freddy got more joints than I remember. He got joints.

[D]

Would have been him.

[E]

You might have made a good point.

[A]

He was gay, right?

[E]

Who, Freddy or Luther?

[A]

Both of them.

[E]

Luther never said that. So we need to say that.

[A]

Did Freddy say he was gay?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But he was gay, right?

[B]

If it was wasn't for Luther Vandross, Freddie Jackson would have been that.

[E]

Which Luther though, big or small?

[D]

I just want to point out Freddy Jackson's still alive.

[B]

He's still that, too.

[D]

We keep saying was.

[E]

He's still with us.

[D]

I'm just saying.

[B]

No, I mean, like 80s. No, I'm saying like in the 80s, if Lucife v wasn't as popular, Freddie Jackson would have been that Nick.

[A]

If I was Freddy Jackson, I went to Luther funeral. Like the one Max went to. Sam Cook.

[D]

They did have a little beef, too.

[A]

But Freddie and Luther, What Was the beef dude, they fighting over dudes.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I'll take it back.

[D]

There's two reasons. One of my tell you one of my camp but the. The reason, the public reason was.

[A]

Yeah, y' all think it's only the making fight.

[B]

No, I don't think that.

[D]

No.

[E]

Oh no.

[D]

It's gay.

[E]

They fighting over dick for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's not out of the question but each one of them thought the other was sort of disrespectful and people thought that Luther felt like Freddie was a fake version of him.

[A]

Okay, I can see that.

[E]

Did Luther really feel that way?

[A]

If I was Freddie, that's going to be a cover artist.

[D]

That's what people.

[E]

What's the behind the scenes stuff? You can't tell us?

[D]

I can't tell you.

[E]

He'll tell us when he came.

[D]

I tell you when the camera's off. It's not that deep. Yeah, let's get into ain't too bad

[E]

for the viewers and people that power the show.

[A]

That'll get some subs. Subscribe right now, y'. All. It's so much we about to talk about in the kitchen.

[D]

No, but the first reason is a good reason. I mean like cuz people. A lot of people don't know little Freddy and Luther tension. But Luther tried to chill it out.

[A]

But he better stop playing with Freddie

[D]

was rough on people.

[E]

Was he?

[A]

I ain't playing with Freddie Jackson. You were.

[B]

You was one saying no, you.

[A]

That's the question.

[B]

You didn't ask a question.

[A]

Who the is Freddie Jackson? Yo, I never said who the. I know it is. I just thought it was more. I thought he had like Roberta Flack hits.

[D]

Now he's just trolling.

[A]

No, I'm not.

[D]

You think Roberta Flack only had a few hits? Yes, including the one we just heard from people. How many.

[A]

How many think she was a great duet? Rest in peace, Roberta Flag.

[B]

Yo, that Roberta Flag is one of Mark's favorites.

[A]

That makes sense.

[D]

Yeah. I like great artists. You act like this. He likes Roberta Flack. Is that.

[A]

No, you like J Elect too. Shut up.

[D]

I do like J elect. I like great artists.

[A]

Great artists like great artists. How many slaps of Roberta Flag got double digits?

[B]

You got Roberta up.

[D]

You got Roberta real up. Double digits for sure. Easily, easily double even if you take the Donnie album away. I mean, you name something I'm putting on.

[A]

Name some solo Roberta Flack smashes. I've done this before, so I mean we ain't gotta spend a lot of time on it. But just for shits and giggles and rest in peace, Roberta Flack. A queen, a legend, an icon.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

But it wasn't a lot of solo slaps. First time I ever saw your face. Couldn't be soft.

[D]

Those are two big ones right there. I feel like making love.

[C]

You got a friend. First time I ever saw you say that.

[B]

Three number ones.

[A]

That's around my.

[D]

What?

[B]

What?

[A]

I got it as. You got like four slaps. It's got like four slaps.

[E]

Who.

[D]

You pull up your charts.

[A]

Exactly. Look, you gotta do a whole lot of digging.

[D]

No, I can name other songs, but I don't know the chart position. Because I'm gonna say something that you'll be like. Well, that's not the chart position. So I'm gonna pull up the exact.

[A]

I don't really why we gotta strike

[C]

all the Donnie Hathaway records.

[A]

I don't care about the chart.

[D]

I was making a point that you don't even need the Donny Hathaway records for that. It's helpful if you get Donnie Hathaway records and you. You.

[A]

If we including Donnie had the Way records, then there's nothing for me to say.

[D]

Oh, then yeah. I mean, that's.

[A]

That's like Amani. Including all his Kanye records.

[D]

It's not the same. Kanye said when Joe says something that's different than doing half of a whole song.

[E]

When Joe says some shit.

[C]

Number one hit to a feature.

[D]

Yo, I don't. I think people music is their music. And if you have a significant role in the song, like a duet, like some smack.

[B]

Yo, you be shooting on the low. It's not on the low.

[E]

Don't shoot nothing on the low.

[B]

It's not on the low.

[A]

Don't be on the low.

[E]

It's on the high. We just dumb.

[A]

Last question. How many hits Patrick Bell got?

[D]

25.

[E]

Y' all can't play with baddies.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

I'm not even.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

Throw this whole nobody in here.

[E]

Better not even. You think it's more or less play with Patty LaBelle.

[D]

No, before you Google.

[A]

You think it's more or less 32.

[D]

Before you said something less.

[E]

It's 32.

[D]

Less. You think it's less? I think 25 is. I think 25 is conservative.

[E]

Why didn't it be 25? Y' all are tripping. Nobody no paper.

[D]

No, it's not.

[C]

That's a lot of hits.

[A]

She probably got it, though.

[D]

Are you kidding me? Between Lebel the.

[E]

I mean, cuz they not counting that Voule Vu.

[A]

F. Yes, you are I'm about to

[D]

say only one you voice. You know on that.

[E]

I'm saying that's. They're not thinking of that.

[B]

She had 42 songs chart on the. The hot R and B song. We can't play 13 top. She has over 30 charting solo singles during her career. Damn.

[D]

That's what I'm trying to tell y'. All.

[E]

I said 30.

[D]

She making music for 60 years.

[A]

No, Patty is her.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And she still look good and she still know what's popping. Me and this go to the same hairdresser like Patty is her.

[D]

Really?

[E]

Yeah. With crazy hands.

[D]

Like the same shop or the same actual hairdresser?

[E]

The same shop. Hairdresser.

[D]

What? I was. I was asking for clarification.

[B]

What's the name of it? Crazy Hair.

[A]

And when was your last time?

[E]

Her name is Crazy Hands and she is legit one of the best hairstylists in Philadelphia. I've sat in the chair.

[A]

Keep going, though. And she does like. See her again. She gave you the crown. Crazy look. You got a. Never mind. I'm talking.

[B]

I remember.

[D]

No, that's dope. Ms. Patty Hair. Be perfect every time.

[B]

Nah, Patty. Patty's.

[A]

I remember all.

[B]

I was at a Marsha Ambrose's show in Philly.

[A]

Secure and shit.

[B]

No, I wasn't.

[D]

Were you security?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I wasn't.

[A]

They can't just break in there with big freeze at the door. Marsha was safe. Floetry was safe. What happened?

[E]

Freeze.

[B]

Nah, it was just funny. Cause she pulled Patty out on stage. She sang. If only you knew. And after she was done, she goes, ladies and gentlemen, the greatest singer in the world, Jill Scott. But it was Marsha Ambrosius.

[D]

Get the fuck outta here.

[B]

I swear to God.

[E]

Never happened. He made that up.

[B]

I swear to God.

[E]

Patty was so poised in professional. She would never make a mistake.

[B]

Patty was never. But I promise you.

[E]

Stop playing, boy.

[B]

I promise you.

[E]

This is a little slip of the lip.

[D]

It was.

[C]

Whoops, Daisy.

[E]

Whoops. My bad.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Oops. I made it.

[D]

I don't know if that story is true or not, but I'm telling you. No, no. I'm no doubt what you're saying or confirm what you're saying. Okay, as a Philadelphian, I'm gonna just shut the up.

[B]

There you go.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I believe you're Patti LaBelle. I do.

[D]

I love Patty the security.

[A]

Listen, it's a farce.

[D]

He was whooping his ass.

[A]

Yeah. We jumped and we ran in there.

[E]

Ice went in there, got a couple kicks. I could totally See it?

[D]

No, I don't.

[A]

No.

[E]

So they're in the back beating the out somebody and ice walks past. Like, I don't want anything to do with that. That's.

[D]

He watched the whole thing?

[A]

No, I think he.

[D]

He might even record.

[A]

I think he went in head first on some headbutt.

[E]

He definitely got physical with a though on some headbutt.

[A]

Pause. Look at that head. Y' all so dumb. Y' all going to look too black people. Black people so stupid.

[D]

Like we a see before too.

[A]

Black people are so dumb, yo. Terrible look at. Anyways, man. All right, what else? What else important? Nothing.

[C]

Nothing.

[A]

Nothing. There's absolutely nothing that's important. But it's fine.

[B]

What.

[A]

What's unimportant?

[D]

Daphne Joy.

[B]

Daphne Joy.

[D]

What do you think?

[B]

I'm so glad Mona here.

[A]

No, nobody's happier than me that Mona's here. Mona, I caught a lot of heat out there. Did for my pup Dick review.

[E]

And the thing about me is I was so upset because I wasn't here sitting with you, doing it with you.

[A]

See why I be needing you to be here?

[E]

This is the thing, right? Number one. Bravo, Daphne. I see you, girl. Okay. The only annoying part about the video is, like, when they get into it, it's this big fat old black eye walking through. Because he doesn't do anything, you know?

[C]

No, he lubes up.

[D]

He can't. He does something.

[E]

All he does is keep walking. He can't cause them drugs got that dick balled up. When you get that high, you perform.

[B]

He did something. He paid.

[E]

Oh, please. I. I was irritated. I told. Like I said earlier, I was.

[A]

Dick look like a little snail.

[E]

Oh, my God. You. I didn't know if you wanted to go right there. Dick little as I figured that was the drug.

[A]

That look like.

[E]

Puffy can't have a little dick in real life. Puffy can't have her little dick in real life.

[D]

That was real life.

[E]

Right? But I'm saying no. No.

[D]

Have you ever seen one that's small in real life?

[E]

Yes.

[D]

What do you do in that situation?

[E]

First thought I'm sitting amongst a bunch of them right now. No, I'm. I'm joking, guys. I'm not a fan of like big. Big Dick. So it's like, I'm not like a o. Whatever. But it's worse when the person is tall or big and he come out with that little. You know what I mean? Like when he big, he got a gut and you can't see nothing. Like, you still can't see Dick because Belly cover the whole dick. It gets a little awkward. It's all about the guy though. When a guy has a small dick and he's confident with it. He come in swinging that shrimp head up. I like them kind of niggas. But the. That's awkward about it. Trying to hurry pull it out while the lights on and or it keep popping out. He keeps saying stop playing like it's my fault that this motherfucker.

[A]

You mad wet bomb.

[E]

You know damn well he could have been real throwing. I hate that. I hate that. Please. So what the was excuse the last skin. Nobody could keep this little. No, but I think it was a. I think Daphne is a really. I don't know how to put it. But a good sex worker. I don't know. She's. Her moans, the way she look like. I feel like if I paid a. I would want her to like I would want Daphne to eat my butt and sound like that. Cuz she seemed like she really liked every moment of everything that was happening. And I enjoyed that. I felt like a little cuck myself.

[A]

That dick was like the. The. The ring of cocktail shrimp at the supermarket. But just one of them. You know how they be extra small. They don't be trying to get a big shrimp.

[E]

And then he kept like fidgeting with it. Like every time he got to the camera he'd do like some little flop little. You know what I mean? Like, let me remember that get up. Cause if you listen, I'm telling you after your third eight ball, that's it. That is sleep.

[B]

Okay?

[E]

That ain't coming back.

[A]

There nothing you can do to it. Clear.

[E]

And I feel like even the guy cuz the guy was really attractive too. Like really like puppy. That's how I know Puppy is a different type of. Because for you to book these, they got triple times much dick as you got.

[A]

Triple what? What you learn, man? No, no, no.

[E]

That young boy had a lot of people on. I ain't gonna lie man. Oxtail.

[A]

I'm bad at math. But that nigga was at least puff time 45.

[E]

But for puff to do that, that's how you know he really cares about the show. You know what I mean? Cause he could be like embarrassed, like, oh, I don't wanna bring this young nigga with all his dick. He like, nah, I want you to donkey dick on this bitch. That's what I like. Puff in the corner rubbing that pussy. That coochie boy. Puff gotta get extended clitoris. That dick little. I feel for him though. Now everything makes Sense Puff Daddy.

[D]

So now we're giving two dick reviews of Puff.

[E]

Yeah, I'm a writer.

[D]

How about that Daphne Joy? I mean, you know, actually, before you talk about Daphne, I, I. This nigga's gonna come home.

[C]

So this is true.

[D]

I mean, I know you different. You security.

[A]

But like, a lot of people.

[D]

A lot of people got a lot of energy for Puff right now. A lot of jokes, because he's got another couple years when he come home. I'm just saying, is the energy gonna change? Like, I try to make jokes based on, like, why I say this if you were standing here or if I could bump into you on the street.

[A]

Do you?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

No, we don't. Do we from north? We don't do it like that.

[D]

That doesn't mean I'm. It just mean, like, I'm. I'm not gonna say nothing crazy.

[A]

I try not to say nothing behind your back that I would have a problem saying in front of your face.

[D]

And that's what I'm saying. We get a lot of dick jokes off. I'm just saying, if he was right

[A]

here, I probably wouldn't make a bunch of little dick jokes.

[D]

If he's right here, that's different. But. But just.

[A]

But I don't plan on ever speaking to Puff or seeing him again, so I wouldn't give a fuck. Never? Not no.

[B]

Not.

[D]

No.

[A]

Why would I be.

[D]

They travel in similar circles.

[A]

No, we don't. No, we don't.

[E]

He's going to come up here.

[A]

No, he's not coming up here.

[E]

Oh, never mind.

[D]

That's not going to happen. I mean, y' all both industry people. Y' all both titans. Y' all both got businesses. I figure y' all swords might cross or something.

[A]

Y', all, I'm not certain that y'. All. Oh, I see what you're doing.

[D]

Yo, you really. You at the Knicks game and he's

[B]

sitting in of you front of.

[D]

You can bump into him at the next game. It could be something as simple as that.

[A]

True. I don't plan on being anywhere where Puff is or speak.

[B]

But if you saw him out in the street, you wouldn't hold a conversation with him.

[A]

Probably not.

[B]

Really.

[A]

Yeah. What we got to talk about, he'll tell you.

[E]

Well, let me say this. Were y' all holding conversations prior to any of this?

[A]

Well, yeah, I worked with him. Oh, I worked with him.

[E]

Oh, he was on revolt.

[A]

Yeah. Revolt.

[E]

Yeah. Oh, well, what we talking about him? Take that, take that, take that.

[A]

You think that's weird? You think that's odd? You think that's strange?

[B]

I don't think that you should.

[A]

I think a lot of people that was in Puff life may feel similar.

[B]

I'm saying. But that's what Stevie J spoke to. I don't necessarily feel like, well, Stevie

[A]

J is his friend.

[B]

No, I'm saying that. But that's what he was speaking to. The people that was there that just cold cut Puff off. He like, yo, I remember. I'm not with none of y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Yeah, everybody that cut him off like that. I'm not with y'. All. I could see that.

[A]

I don't wish him. I don't wish him any harm.

[E]

I want to know what. What is thinks about.

[A]

I mean, I don't wish him well. I don't wish him hard. I don't believe he happened. I don't. But to speak to him, I don't. I don't see it.

[D]

Got it.

[A]

If.

[B]

If Puff were my friend, would I be talking to him?

[A]

No.

[E]

What? Seemed like you thought that that was strange that Joe wouldn't.

[B]

I'm saying that he wouldn't speak to him. I don't think, like, hanging out with him is one thing, but Puff comes home from jail, he endured the things that he endured. He was accused and charged separately in the things that he was accused of and he was charged with. For Joe to say, yo, I wouldn't talk to him, it's surprising to me.

[D]

But why?

[E]

That's what I'm curious.

[B]

Why? Because y' all have a rapport. Y' all might not be friends, but y' all definitely have a rapport that was more than cordial. You get what I'm saying? Like, did y' all have anything outside of business? Like, any type of report outside of business.

[A]

Business? I mean, if you're asking me. No.

[B]

So then I. I can understand.

[A]

When I first started working at Revolt, I'll tell you a quick little story that's supposed to stay. Stay private, but I got a podcast with millions of listeners, so I fucked up. But when I was about to start working at Revolt, me and Puff had a private meeting. And you can't help yourself.

[D]

I just assume. No, no, I get it.

[A]

You get it.

[D]

I always wonder how you got to gig in Revolt. Go ahead. So you had the private meeting.

[A]

Not a privates meeting, for which he'd have been a no show. Another little.

[D]

I don't care if they hate me for that.

[A]

But anyway, we was. We was having a meeting.

[B]

Where was that?

[A]

At his house.

[B]

Wet Atrock.

[A]

I'm not doing this with y' all we was having a meeting at his house, and he was like, listen, go ahead, nigga.

[D]

All right? We can be mature. You want to work with. Did he say, come to my house?

[A]

Oh, my God, go. Not go. I'm not going up there. But we had a meeting in which he explained, yo, I heard a lot about you. I heard that you were crazy. I heard you was a lunatic. I heard you've done wild things before. I heard you could be a thing. So I want to let you know that I don't mind any you of that. However, here. If you hit somebody, if you throw something at somebody or do something that's going to really put this business in jeopardy, then you got to go. Zero tolerance. No job. It's too much at stake. It's too much going on over here. It's totally unacceptable. Zero tolerance. So when I heard that and I appreciated that, I appreciated that, I was. I was super grateful, fool, that he told me that. And I was like, dope. Cause I ain't about to be a problem here. But in my head, I was like, ditto, right?

[B]

But it's different How? Because what he said to you is dope. Like, I'm. I'm assuming that he's looking at you like a little brother, like, yo, dog, mad told me, don't with you.

[A]

That's a farce. Let him finish.

[B]

Yo, he's looking at you like, dog, man might have told me, don't with you, but I'mma give you a shot.

[D]

He saw something in you.

[B]

We like. I'm not.

[E]

I'm just saying, like, Mark not letting.

[B]

Why is it nuts for Puff to look at Joe like a little bro? Like, anyway, cool. Yo, we gonna take a shot. This is business. I said you being outside, running into him at a social gathering or a basketball game or something like that, that does not affect your business towards you and have a conversation. It could, though.

[A]

Yeah, it could.

[B]

It absolutely could. Yo, if I'm having conversation with Puff and it's just him like, yo, man, good a smile and somebody take a picture of that, that could affect your business just off perception.

[E]

And is those couple seconds even worth the drama that comes from.

[B]

Exactly. Even worth you having to clean it up with you.

[E]

Will he. Will he talk to you in your time and he. If.

[D]

That's a great point.

[E]

If the shoe was on, well, Puffy stop and have a conversation with you. This is the thing about you, my brother. My. My friend. When you. When you. When you say he look at you like a little brother. And most of Us go no. And you go well why would he look at his little brother? Because this entertainment is so no for a to look at a like his little brother, y' all had to really go through some or have some personal. But just the fact that he's bigger, he knows him, he knowing his brother have these look at each other like competition anyway. So it's never no brother family loving look when it comes to this entertainment period.

[D]

That's why I asked was it anything

[B]

outside that could be true?

[A]

Yeah. He looked at me like a new hire that had the potential to flip this company around and he was having a risk assessment conversation with me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And like you know, I'm going choose a business over you.

[A]

If you and people be. You got ex and people be thinking that because they higher up in the in the hierarchy then they the only ones that have the right to say that. But I didn't feel like that at all. Yeah, I didn't feel like that at all. So you got yourself in a pickle. Don't come around me. Don't call me, don't text me. Don't come around. I don't give a what we've been through. You got yourself in a pickle. You are. You are more harm than good.

[B]

Yeah. I can't afford to have you around me.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

This don't like it.

[D]

We ain't.

[B]

It's not what I like and what I dislike. I. I could disagree but what about

[E]

that turns you off? Like about that whole whole thing not.

[B]

It's not even turning me off. I'm just saying I could have my own perception. I think that I don't necessarily have to do business with you for me to be cordial with you outside. It's two totally different things.

[E]

So what is it have to be for you to be cordial? Like what do you have to have with a person for you to feel like you gonna speak to the after

[B]

he gets if A was always what's so when you say that kind of stuff, what do you mean beating the

[C]

out of his girl on camera.

[E]

Let's just leave it at Cassie in the hallway. Let's leave it there and everything else. One thing about us we going to smoke some.

[D]

Speaking of smoking.

[B]

She dapped her arm up.

[A]

Your moment is a fool.

[E]

You know what because like that whole thing of like. Like I'm not somebody that's going like dog pile nobody or whatever. Whatever. But I just feel like in this industry. Yes, absolutely. I can just totally cut off anything about a because you know what I Mean, like, you're dead simple. I ain't want to talk to you in the beginning. So this is just another reason that I ain't got to talk to you.

[B]

Mona, I want to ask you a question. I'm so glad you're here for the conversation, because we was. We started off talking about Daphne Joy, and once the tape dropped, she put out a statement, deleted that statement, and then went, like, leaned all the way into. What do you want to call it? Risque. You know, I dropped my only fans 85%. She got videos up. She got puff music playing in the video now. And how do you feel about that?

[E]

I feel like at the end of the day, like, just the times when we live in, it's like everybody is on. Like, I gotta take the best part of it. Almost like to get the benefit out of it. That's like went around saying about me, I hope you die. I hope your next whatever die. Every time the said that, my numbers went up every time. So it's like in the game I'm in, I. I can take advantage and, like, drop my merch. On the day the person says, I hope you die. Even though that's kind of like nasty nasty. You know what I mean? I feel like with her, ain't nobody looking at. I feel like that looks like her. Take. Make the statement, take it back. Because somebody calls that, you better post that. Only fans go get that money. Because it's like, why wouldn't you? We are at this point right now, and she ain't changing. It's not like she got saved or not to tell her. You know, assume things about her. But that's. We're in the times. If she did get saved, we would have been on the timeline, right? So it's like, if she's still living the same life and this get leaked and it's popping, you ain't gonna get that money. Cause Daphne looked great in that video, so why not make some paper out of it? That's how I look at it. And the fact that she went one and took it back. Somebody called that and said, you're tripping. You could have just made 100 bands this week. And that's why she did it. That's how I think.

[B]

No, I think she got a different phone call.

[E]

Like what?

[B]

You know, you wasn't abused. You better stop playing with me. I don't know.

[E]

I don't know enough to say.

[D]

I think what Ish is saying is

[A]

more likely somebody called and said that they would sound like an abuser.

[E]

Yeah. For sure.

[D]

Might have been an abuser called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think both are true. I think it might have happened. I think that's exactly what kind of person that would be. The thing that I thought was strange about it was her leaning into it with like, the puff music, mad risque,

[B]

the Risca dead humping after you just said, yo, I wish that part of my life I could take back and never have been there and live through that. And I would hug that little. And all of that other stuff. If you did and you sincerely felt that way, then you shouldn't be on your couch in your house with a negligee on, humping the couch.

[D]

See, I think. I think those are two separate things.

[E]

That's what to say.

[D]

Let me just finish this up real quick. I think you can say, I don't want to be part of that mess over there with them. I don't want to be part of something that I felt was exploitative or unhealthy or whatever. For whatever I think it is.

[A]

I'm.

[D]

I'm not making an assessment of what it was. I'm just saying a person could say, I don't fuck with that. But I still wanna have Onlyfans. I still wanna dance. I still wanna do whatever kind of sex work you wanna do. I think you have a right to say, I'm gonna do that, but on my own terms.

[B]

True.

[D]

And when I say exploitative, I'm not saying that she wasn't a willing partner or whatever happened over there. I don't know that situation. I'm saying, even just financially exploitative. Cause whatever she's getting on, OnlyFans is her bread. And so if she's saying, look, I wanna do that, I wanna lean into the moment. 85% off my only fans. Fans, all that. Go ahead, do it. Would it be my choice for her if I were her life coach or manager? No, but that's her choice. I just. I just think they're two different things. And I think what she was trying to run from was the other shit.

[B]

I don't like that shit, man. I just don't like it. I don't like. I don't like the statement coming out the. The. She is a victim of revenge porn for sure.

[A]

Maybe because some people are saying that she may even be responsible for leaking. Leaking.

[C]

Oh, really?

[A]

Leaking her own video again, this is totally unfounded hearsay. Yeah. But. Oh, yeah, I could see how someone would be incentivized to if they were pulling a move.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she looks like a lady that

[B]

Looks like nobody really want to say it like that. It looks nasty to put this out. I'm the victim. I'm the victim. I'm the victim. I'm the victim. I don't want to do any of this and then take it down as if I never put that out and then completely lean this way.

[A]

She looks like a lying whore. Yeah.

[B]

And I'm not calling her that. I don't know her. That's just what it looks like on

[E]

surface and to so many people. She was automatically lying whore before she did that. So it's like, who gives a. I'm

[A]

not mad at nobody. I'm not mad at nobody having only fans. I guess I look at it a way. In Hawaii, you choose to promote your only fans when you have kids.

[B]

So.

[A]

Because kids grow up. And like I said, middle school kids are mean.

[B]

High school

[A]

starts early, bro.

[B]

Yeah, he's 13.

[A]

Are mean.

[E]

Is he, fam. Oh, he's.

[A]

That would be my number one reason for altering my behavior.

[B]

Think about this, though. So if we want to really be, you know, everything go back to money. So she testified that Puff was giving her 10k a month, right? 1. I just looked it up. 50 is giving her 6700amonth. Right.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

So if. If you have no other income coming in. $6700 and you live a certain lifestyle, we all have made $7,000 a month. If you live in a certain lifestyle, bro, $7,000 a month is no money. So now. So now you are either stuck with modifying my lifestyle significantly or doing something else to generate income. That's where the potential leak might come in. Because I know I could get a bag off of this. And now I got a rollout. Because if you look at her page, people start sending me all the risque shit. That risque shit. And all of that is leaning into this. So that might have been. I need some money. This is my bag. Let me lower my only fans now. Now I'mma drive y' all to my only fans and see how it plays out.

[D]

Yeah, I'm with you. I just don't. Like I said, I. I do what you want. I didn't like the. The music in the background or puff music. To me, that, to me, makes light of not just what she went through, but what everybody. I thought that was in poor taste.

[B]

And to your point about, you know, the kids and stuff, like. Like Larson Pippen's son spoke out, I know, recently and was like, yo, I was. It was hard. I. Yeah, I had a hard time. Imagine what that kid was imagining my

[A]

mom had an affair. It was tough on me. Yeah.

[B]

With future.

[A]

With future.

[B]

And I'm in school, bro. We came in here and talked about the Drake shit. Remember we had an argument with the kid that was playing basketball, Bailey, when they was going to. You like, nah, he gonna be lit. He gonna be lit. Sean. Shooting the next week. Here go all the tweets of ridiculing this kid at school. Drake busting your mom's playing. These kids don't give a. These is mean.

[A]

Do y' all think that you can turn a hoe into a housewife?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Right?

[B]

I do. She done with ho. I do.

[C]

Turd is the.

[B]

Yeah. You can't turn her. You can't turn her. That's true. That's why I said she done with ho. I disagree.

[E]

It's the same concept as Nick.

[B]

I think that. I think that there are people that have never been treated well in their lives, and I think they can get with a man or woman, for that matter. Matter, and that person can show them a different side of life, a different attention, a different care that can modify that person. But ain't deterrent, though, because that's like some temporary shit. That's not true. Because the second you take. Well, if they did it solely for this, then once it's gone, what's left? If you've only lived a life where men treated you like shit, okay? And now you get with a man that respects you, that talks to you, that listens to. To you, that shows you. Because some people still talk to my ho. Like, how do you define the hoe? Just being treated like shit by men? No, I'm talking about a woman that we would call a hoe, okay? And she's a hoe. She's only been treated a certain way, and as a result of her being treated a certain way, this is her lifestyle. You can show her a whole different lifestyle, and that could change the person. It's like taking a kid from the ghetto. And they've only known this stimulus in this environment. And you could put them in a different environment, and it's a totally different kid. What happened when you take it away? That's not what that always happens. That is not what always happens.

[E]

So when y' all say the reason why my automatic response is when you say, can you turn the whole two housewives? Is yes. Is because all the are housewives in my experience, like wife whores. Because, like, freaky. So when that feel like, oh, I'm a really, like, settle down. Some say it and they settle down with the everybody already they don't care because they want to get their balls licked and their butthole licked. Right.

[B]

But all whores ain't freaky. And all moderate girls, some, A lot of moderate girls are super freaky. And all these don't be freaking. They just a lot of.

[E]

I'm just telling you in my experience coming up and thinking I don't want to be a hoe because nobody take you serious. I see whores get taken serious every day, B. That's what the I'm saying.

[D]

I think it's a difference between changing people's behavior, changing people's mentality. I think you absolutely can change people's actions with by a lot of shit, including especially money. If you change people's conditions, you can change what they do, but you can't necessarily change someone's mindset. Sometimes you can. It just depends on the person. But I think they're two different things. And I think sometimes when we change people behavior, we think they change their mindset. And it's like, well, no, yeah, if I, if I put you in a mansion and I'm right now you don't have to do that shit. Don't mean you don't notice inclined to,

[B]

but once it's going. But now you out the mansion. But those actions are predicated on some survival that they felt they had to do certain things.

[D]

I'm with you. But not everybody who is in survival mode does those things. So I'm saying it just that's what saying Sometimes you can change the actions, you can change the mentality. Sometimes you can do both. It just depends on the person.

[B]

And some, and not all the hoes is doing it out of survival mode. Some of them got to a point they just like this. That's true.

[D]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

We know cases of situations where wealthy dudes have. Have taken girls out of a strip club, taking girls out of nightlife and that girl went back or started doing wild on the nigga that gave him a better life. I'm not disagreeing. It's a case by case basis. That's true. But to answer the question, yes.

[D]

So yes you can.

[A]

Some people I think you can too. I think you can definitely turn a hoe into a housewife. I just don't know if you can turn like a. Into a house. Like if you just hoeing casually. Like the way that we use the term hoes, we see that done every day. Oh, of course, for sure. And some of the hoes, they make good Housewives. Some of them like, bitch, you could cook. Khabit, you and Madden.

[D]

But the professional whores, she knew all the players.

[A]

The whores that are professional, that would be tough. You trying to turn her. Cause there's nothing you can do to turn her.

[B]

She gotta.

[A]

Nothing you can do to turn her.

[B]

No, she has to wanna go. A professional whore, she gotta wanna go. You know what?

[A]

It's.

[D]

There's enough money that can. That's my point. You can't change the mentality, but if you got enough bread, you can stop the other shit because it's just more efficient.

[A]

I don't think so at all. I don't think that all professional whores are just there for the money.

[C]

Yeah. So it's like addict shit. Like, they gotta want to do it.

[A]

They passionate about that. They like it.

[B]

You gotta want to do it.

[D]

I don't know that world, but I'm gonna defer.

[B]

You remember our conversation? Look, but if that's the case, remember our conversation that we just argued about last week when you were saying, yo, do you think your girl could be turned? Do you think these niggas could turn your girl? And you stood and, yes, they can.

[E]

Can.

[A]

No, can't turn my girl.

[B]

Not your girl.

[A]

We in love.

[B]

No, not love.

[A]

Like a. And my baby is moving up here. Soon we are one step closer to our forever.

[B]

Yeah, you mad excited when you say that too, boy. You can see the excitement just jump out.

[A]

I mean, it's. It's a. It's a funny bit, but I am really excited.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And she is like, we are.

[B]

We are.

[A]

We, we. Listen, listen. I'm gonna keep the bit going, but yeah, yeah, we excited about this. We like each other somehow all these years later.

[D]

That's the best part.

[A]

Yeah, like, we do say. Yeah. Word.

[D]

I hate him, Money. What he said, he was like, that's peace.

[A]

Oh, no. My man found some love.

[D]

Oh, money.

[A]

Wait, what happened?

[D]

He ain't find no love.

[B]

You lying.

[D]

I just seen that nigga yesterday.

[A]

Oh, then never mind. And that's snitching. That's.

[D]

No, I just mean he didn't tell me anything yesterday. He's not snitching. I didn't see him in a whorehouse

[A]

when he find love.

[D]

Actually, that's exactly what he does. That's literally what we call patriot. What he talking about? This. This talk about love every Tuesday and Friday.

[C]

Speaking of which.

[D]

Yes, indeed.

[B]

Playing with your name.

[A]

Oh, man. Good show today, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Indeed.

[D]

It was good.

[A]

Anybody doing anything this weekend? This weekend? Anything fun? Anything fun?

[B]

Yeah, I got a couple days. I'm going. I'm with the trap. Karaoke tomorrow.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

We're going somewhere Sunday. I forgot. I don't know. But yeah, I'm outside. We baby free, so

[A]

90, 60 degrees, baby free they talking about out there, man. I ain't got too much going on this weekend. Go Nicks always. Go Nicks always. Nixon forward to it ain't listen, man. Hopefully y' all enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios. Arrivederci. Hasta la vista, arvois. So long. Goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. And the close minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it.

[E]

New york city.

[A]

What they should.

[C]

Never heard that song in his life.

[A]

Never heard New York minutes with the

[B]

French and Kiss version.

[D]

That's a great album.

[A]

Oh my God. Is this a clean DJ scratch? You sick for this one. Let's see if this is a little better. It up, get it up get it, get it, get it, get it up

[E]

get it up get it, get it,

[A]

get it up get it up get it, get it, get it up There we go. There we go. There we go.

[D]

All right, man.

[A]

Peace.

[E]

Love.

[A]

Riding on the train on my New

[E]

York

[A]

Raising my mouth on my New York don't you.

[E]

Be without the jvp.

[A]

We'll fold that up right now. You've never heard of Joe Buddy.