Episode 941 | "9th Wonder Is Listening"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 941 | "9th Wonder Is Listening"

Release Date: June 27, 2026

OVERVIEW

In this characteristically wide-ranging and entertaining episode, Joe Budden and his co-hosts dive into topics spanning music, sports, relationships, and internet culture. The crew delivers sharp insight and signature banter, focusing on everything from the B2K vs. Pretty Ricky "Verzuz" disaster, to evolving group dynamics in hip-hop, Caitlin Clark's WNBA controversies, new album releases from TI and Lizzo, and the realities of aging and relationships. They keep the conversation unscripted, hilarious, and occasionally poignant, addressing current events with laughter and real talk.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS

1. Opening Vibes & Crew Chemistry

• Opening with classic Joe Budden disclaimers and a bit of chaos about late arrivals and who's really present ("The large crew is a luxury," A, 01:27).
• Reflecting on how the show has grown and evolved, and the comfort (and headaches) of working with familiar faces:

  "I'm a fan of the headache I know vs. the headache I don't" – Joe (A) on podcast team dynamics (25:28)

• Light rants about vacations, wives, and vacation envy, with Joe and others joking about wives’ demands and trips they’d like to take ("My wife wants me to write a love letter..." E, 31:40).
• Playful banter about the upcoming 1000th episode celebration—whether it should be a live show, back at Parks' crib, or livestreamed (18:32–19:04).

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2. Music—Group Dynamics & the B2K vs. Pretty Ricky "Verzuz"

The Wash Heard ‘Round the Internet

• Detailed, blow-by-blow breakdown of the "Versuz" battle where Pretty Ricky decimated B2K (35:09–59:18).

  • Critique of song choices, showmanship, and vocal skills.
  • Ongoing jokes about "fireworky albums" and musical credibility, with 9th Wonder and Questlove apparently keeping a close eye on their debates ("9th Wonder heard this," A, 06:14).

• Notable Quotes:

  “Boy, did they get dog walked!” – Joe (A) on B2K's loss (02:30)
  “What song on [Reasonable Doubt] gives fireworks?” (04:45)
  "These two groups hate each other. And as the battle went on, you started to see even how the fans were talking." – Joe (A, 36:09) “It was Dipset/LOX, no, Fab/Jada—it was worse than all of that.” – Joe (A, 48:49)

  • Pretty Ricky’s near-complete dominance: Pretty Ricky not getting under 60% of the vote in any round (48:58).
  • The power of performance and group chemistry contrasted (B2K completely out of sync, Pretty Ricky having fun, playing cards and clowning B2K on-stage (44:24, 54:28)).
  • Embedded cultural differences: B2K as "suburban girls’ crush music," Pretty Ricky as "sneakin’ guys into Nana’s house" music (36:20).
  • Humorous asides about desperate cameo appearances (Lizzo's flute), B2K trying to win over the crowd with nostalgia, and social media reactions (45:06, 46:21).

New Music & Shifts in the Industry

• Mini-reviews and shoutouts:

  • TI’s "Kill the King": Praised for balancing new and “throwback” sounds ("That T-Pain is hard," A, 72:12), with Joe & the crew playing favorites like the T-Pain/Jeezy/2 Chainz record ("placement was done the way if you had all them features..." A, 76:31).
  • Benny the Butcher’s "Plugs I Met 2.5": Saluted for sharp lyricism.
  • Kiana Ledé’s new album: Called "the most Kehlani album ever"—highlighting concise R&B storytelling about breakups and self-realization (87:04).
  • Future's Upcoming Album: Skeptical take on the single, but optimism for the full project (170:05).

• Conversation around shifting label support, artist independence, and how streaming and promotion affect legacy artists like Lizzo (91:35–101:28).

  "We never met Lizzo that way. We met Lizzo as a label baby and she reaped the benefits..." – Joe (94:29)

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3. Sports & Culture: Trades, Stars, and Controversy

• NBA Trade Drama:

  • Heated debate around the Lamelo Ball trade and its impact on both Minnesota and Charlotte (165:11).
  • Takes on Julius Randle, Karl Anthony Towns, and the overall state of the Timberwolves and Hornets.
  • Questions about Ja Morant's future… and a sober assessment that the league has "moved on" (167:18).

• WNBA & Caitlin Clark:

  • Mark (B) brings up ongoing controversy about hard fouls, fan narratives, and the absence of key stars from promotional material (66:53). Unpacks media habits—how both extremes of love/hate shape social conversation.
  • Debunking online conspiracies around race, gender, and business in WNBA promotion/licensing (68:03).
  • Becky Hammon's controversy and the double standard for "bad takes" in sports media (69:10).

  "When you give a bad take, you should be like, you know what, that was a bad take... Just let people give bad takes and own it." – Mark (70:14).

• Big Daddy Kane's Bar Challenge:

  • The crew discusses the new 16/8 bar open verse challenge and the ongoing legacy of battle rap (57:53–60:32).

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4. Relationships, Love, and Breakups

• Real-Life Vulnerability:

  • Joe and co-hosts discuss love letters, wives’ expectations, and marriage maintenance (30:31–35:01).
    • “They just be wanting to feel acknowledged, man.” – Joe (34:36)
  • Flip (E) shares the challenge of writing a love letter that’s focused on the present, not past struggles (32:32).

• Divorce Court—LaVar Ball:

  • Extended reflection on LaVar Ball’s divorce after medical issues, and philosophical takes on love, timing, and longevity in marriage (135:05–151:10).
  • Mark (B) provokes debate about whether to believe the first person’s narrative, self-awareness, and how decades-long relationships can fizzle out for complex reasons.

    "People always pick the thing that makes them look best... people are not very self-aware about why people left them." – Mark (147:49)

• Aging, Change & Vulnerability:

  • Jennifer Lewis declares her former sex addiction, sparking generational jokes about body counts and what constitutes "addiction" now (154:04–157:54).
  • Lighter conversation about learning to have sex (Bill Porter anecdote, the importance of being "taught" versus learning from porn—127:01–133:16).

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5. Notable Quotes & Funniest Moments

• “Yo, if I’m performing my song and a [nigga] start playing dominoes with his back to me, I might hit him.” – Joe (A, 54:56)
• "ChatGPT, if Queens Flip were to write a love letter to his wife, how would it go?" – The crew explores AI-written love letters–hilarious and weirdly accurate (33:04).
• "Some of these family genes are cheat codes, yo!" – Joe on the Edmondsons, Wayans, and musical legacies (16:27).
• "White women got it too hard out here, man." – Mark, tongue-in-cheek while dissecting Caitlin Clark/Becky Hammon (71:31).
• "I like windows, space... and most importantly, I don't like... I never have liked anybody telling me what to do." – Joe (108:50) on why jail life, and possibly marriage, doesn’t suit him.

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6. Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–06:40 | Opening, crew arrivals, show origin story
• 06:31–07:43 | Music debates, 9th Wonder, embarrassment about industry takes
• 35:09–59:18 | Deep-dive into B2K vs. Pretty Ricky Versuz
• 66:53–71:31 | WNBA, Caitlin Clark, Becky Hammon
• 72:01–76:52 | TI album review, nostalgia for 2000s sound
• 87:04–91:35 | New music (Kiana Ledé and others), album breakdowns
• 91:35–101:28 | Lizzo’s album flop, label problems, artist independence
• 135:05–151:32 | Divorce (LaVar Ball), love longevity, timing, and self-awareness
• 154:04–157:54 | Jennifer Lewis, sex addiction, generational differences
• 165:11–171:33 | NBA trade reactions, Ja Morant’s trajectory, Future album teaser
• 174:17–178:53 | Weekend plans, closing thoughts, soulful singalong

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ADDITIONAL HIGHLIGHTS

• Ongoing meta-commentary about podcasting in front of an audience vs. “the living room.”
• Jokes about ChatGPT and writing the perfect love letter, even using AI to channel Flip’s unique style.
• Crew offers both real advice (write the love letter and book the Hawaii trip!) and absurd punchlines.
• WNBA/Becky Hammon section is playful but also properly nuanced, an example of the show’s both/and approach.

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TONE & STYLE

• The tone is unfiltered, fast-paced, genuine, and at times, knowingly ridiculous.
• Speakers swap between warm vulnerability, ruthless roast sessions, and sharp cultural critique.
• The show’s “insider’s club” feel is counterbalanced by breaks for context and thoughtful explanations.

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CONCLUSION

Episode 941 of The Joe Budden Podcast is rich with classic hip-hop nostalgia, hard-hitting relationship talk, and real-time culture commentary. The crew continues to blur the lines between honest debate, comic relief, and reflective storytelling—a must-listen for fans who want their entertainment with a dose of both sincerity and shenanigans. Whether lamenting washed boy bands, breaking down the paradoxes of love and aging, or debating NBA moves, the JBP remains true to form: chaotic, insightful, and always worth the ride.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. And he calls himself a professional. Why do y' all never know that we're starting? Because it's seven minutes earlier than we normally start. A bagel and yay, a bacon, egg and cheese. As a non praying Muslim, always turkey. You still got the fucking. That dirty. That dirty Diana phone case.

[B]

Oh, I'm keeping this.

[A]

That red shit that I told you to change your classic gray jeans. Come on, we got a show to do.

[B]

We started seven minutes earlier.

[A]

I see it went back.

[C]

You did.

[A]

No, we didn't. We're starting 22 minutes late.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And really, that's 30, my man. Bad 52 minutes late. It's really 52 minutes late. But it's good to see everybody. Or almost everybody.

[C]

Almost everybody.

[B]

So listen, that's the other reason I think we start. Ain't nobody here.

[A]

Everybody's here.

[E]

Mark.

[A]

That's the thing, man.

[B]

That's philosophical.

[A]

Yeah, everybody's here. Everybody's here.

[D]

Everybody here.

[C]

The audience is here. So.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

The large crew is a luxury, right?

[C]

That's true. It wasn't always like this.

[A]

Yeah, not at all.

[B]

First time I watched, it was just

[A]

you, and in my head, it can always be that. So if I'm here and Parks is here and you guys are here, we're here. The show's ready. Ish is on the way. He's here with us in spirit. We love him. We hope everything is okay. Mona called out ages ago. We love her. She's our sister. She's here with us in spirit. We hope everything is okay. And Flip is on the way.

[B]

Nice.

[D]

Gang will be here. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[B]

You said we got enough. Yeah, less is more.

[A]

I didn't need gang to say what I gotta say about B2K.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[A]

I ain't need nobody for that. That was fun.

[B]

I'm glad you took your take back word last episode.

[A]

Glad you walked that back. I ain't no dummy.

[D]

I think I got ahead of that early.

[A]

Some people say things on the airwaves and they never revisit it themselves. They go home and that's just it. Whatever comes with it. Not me. I go home and Some of this shit lingers with me. I think about it, I was like, oh, I said that shit.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And I watch some shit from years ago and be like, ugh. Like, it's important. It's important. Boy, did they get dog walked.

[D]

They got they ass whooped.

[C]

I missed it. And I'm not mad that I missed it.

[D]

You didn't miss it. You didn't miss it.

[C]

It was a story of fireworks last night. And then we went and watched a little soccer, football.

[A]

What was those fireworks about?

[C]

They do the 4th of July fireworks early. Did not compete with the big New York fireworks. That's the Astoria Park.

[D]

And Hope had fireworks too.

[A]

No, he didn't. He was watching the Astoria fireworks.

[D]

Buddy Hope had fireworks.

[A]

No, he didn't freeze. He had fireworks.

[D]

HOV had fireworks.

[C]

He saw fireworks. HOV was with us, man. He was in story, all right?

[A]

We just getting lines off.

[C]

I don't think he was in a story park.

[B]

I wish y' all would've been there.

[A]

I was on my balcony, confused as hell. Somebody's having a blast. And it wasn't like the project Niggas with Roman Candles blast. Those were big fireworks.

[D]

Well, they passed around. You know how they passed around? Well, they on social media, was going around certain areas by or ROC Nation filed for the permits and there were fireworks planned at Pier 81. And it was a couple locations. Cause he had put this map out. He was doing that.

[C]

Oh, wait, I thought you were joking.

[D]

No, I'm dead serious.

[C]

Oh. Oh.

[D]

He did the whole yesterday with the pop up shops and then all these specific locations like where the tunnel was, where DND studios was, all that type of shit. And they had fireworks set up.

[C]

I would have went to the DND fireworks. I was.

[A]

All right, you got it. Hey, come on, man. Don't start with me today. Or don't make me. Don't make me start with you.

[D]

Don't start with me.

[A]

Jay Z did not have fireworks. And if he did, I'm going to judge him, bro.

[D]

Yesterday was the 30th anniversary of reasonable Doubt. They've been celebrating and leading up to this moment, yes, I would see him having fireworks.

[A]

But what about Reasonable Doubt gives fireworks? I'm trying to chill, cuz. Some people come.

[D]

What about Reasonable Doubt gives fireworks?

[C]

It's not a.

[A]

It's not a fireworks.

[D]

The album that set off the whole fucking career, nigga.

[E]

What about.

[A]

What about 560 Steve State street gives fireworks?

[D]

I didn't say at every location, but they had them marked like where the old Rockefeller office Was they had better

[A]

not let me find out that you purchased fireworks and sprayed them shits across New York City.

[B]

How long have you felt that way

[A]

about reasonable doubt that it's not a fireworky album?

[C]

It's a great album.

[A]

There's nothing to be saved about. It's not a fireworky album.

[B]

Should I get the clippers?

[A]

What song on it? Mark, let me tell you something. This is what I learned. The same way that you feel about working with us. Now listen to me. No, no, no, for real. On God. I learned this over the weekend or the other day. The same way Mark feels about working with us, like. Cause Mark is really one of the more intelligent people that people know. Like, I've heard this from too many people. So we say some stupid shit up here.

[C]

He does too sometimes. Now hold up.

[A]

We all do slow down though. Okay, so we'll say some stupid, uneducated shit and he has to go back out. And his educator friends, they look at him.

[D]

They'd be mad at him.

[A]

They look at. They look at him away. He didn't say nothing.

[C]

He says, stupid educators.

[A]

But just. Just from him hanging out with niggas that's as stupid as us. They look at him. But y', all, that is exactly how I feel when Mark comes in here and talks anything music.

[C]

Oh, no, he knows music.

[A]

He just be when Mark says anything music and I have to go out in the world and face my musician friends.

[D]

I got it.

[C]

I get it.

[A]

And they be like, so Mark says some shit. We on a pod is for debate. Let's have a good time. I be forgetting that when I get home. 9th wonder heard this. Like, it don't just be the music ads, it be the quest. Love the hurt niggas that. You know what I mean?

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

Cause I'd be still embarrassed my name. Wondered if. Man, he's sitting there writing a book in our dm. He is going crazy. Mark don't even say nothing back. He don't double heart it.

[B]

He don't even see it.

[A]

He don't even face the fucking music. The jerk. So I'm in there like, yo, I agree. Knife. Yo, knife, you right. But that's how I feel. So I feel Marty phony though. Well, self admitted, you know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Soon as nigga reach out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yo, yo, fucking. I don't know why he said that.

[B]

I don't know why he said that.

[A]

But if there's one, I agree. But if there's one area I Consider myself to be somewhat educated in music, man. How my music guys. I can't say. The music guys is out there, man. 9th wonder's listening weekend Shout to Knife. We can't shout to Davis, man. We talking to who think Barry Gordy built all music. All sounds come from. And he was. He said it in there. He said, no, all music stems from. And Mark ain't even in there.

[B]

I'm a response. I'm home reading. I'm gonna respond.

[A]

I hate Mark.

[B]

I'm gonna respond. I'm g. Respond. I got something for him. I'll be like, you right. I would just pod damn quick.

[A]

Yo, that just. That just pardon.

[D]

It'll get you out of a lot of shit, though. That just pardon me is nice.

[A]

It is, it is. How y' all feeling? Y' all good?

[D]

I'm good.

[A]

What Oklahoma City did, man, I'm so mad. Big trade these niggas had. They had a killer draft. I'm so tight.

[B]

Oklahoma City, you've done everything.

[A]

They had a killer draft.

[B]

That's what. Y' all need to be scared of everybody.

[A]

I'm not scared of nobody, nigga. I'm the champ. What are you talking about? Watch your sixer mouth.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I'm not scared of a soul. We the fucking champ. We trying to retain our team. Everybody else out there is trying to match up. This is the first draft in the world where you seen all these big men go. Everybody trying to get some size. I heard they saying it's for Wemby, but, I mean, I think it's for us. What'd you say?

[B]

I heard y' all losing, so. I heard Max might be gone. I heard y' all losing.

[A]

You hear a lot of things out there, Mark.

[E]

You gotta.

[A]

Gotta use your discernment. Yeah, I mean. Gotta see my trust is in Leon Rose. Yo, shout out to Leon Rose, World Wide West Captain Brunson. I ain't gonna nick y' all to death. We did that shit, in case you forgot. We absolutely.

[B]

It's baseball season, Joe. Let's move on. World cup season, NWNBA season. All three true.

[A]

Gone or lost, right?

[C]

I'm not that deep. I don't know.

[E]

I'm casual.

[B]

There is a World Cup. Exactly.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

I watched a little bit Matches happening. Hey, come on, boy.

[C]

I went out, I watched the game a little bit. I keep it on in the background while we're in the studio. But I don't know shit about football. Soccer.

[A]

I gotta get over there and get down with that prostitution ring. I gotta get over there and Find out who is working this thing, send them to Wehawkin. I think they just making this like a Rutherford thing. And this niggas, I mean, it's money outside of this.

[D]

Step outside a little bit.

[A]

Yo, you see them Cape Verdeans on that screen?

[D]

I told y', all, it's the team.

[A]

They so fine. I. I thought they was.

[E]

AI.

[D]

I gotta say that.

[C]

That's one thing I did notice that the USA team is up with. We don't bring the baddies out like we supposed to. No, the other countries, the baddies love football.

[B]

Well, here's the thing.

[A]

Yeah, they're.

[B]

They're care. They're like. Their first tier sport is soccer, right? So, like, who comes to our NBA All Star weekend and our Super Bowl? That's what come to their soccer.

[C]

Yeah, we need to step it up for the World cup, man.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. We gotta. We gotta do something different.

[C]

Yo, us baddies, man, you gotta step outside, man. You gotta come out and rep. Y'

[D]

all doing the right thing. Nah, sports lead them. Lead them alone.

[A]

Why?

[C]

There's bad money in football.

[D]

I hear you.

[A]

Leave them alone, though.

[D]

Them Cape Verdeans, the Brazilians, the Colombians, some of them teams is.

[C]

Now, we could get a nice route.

[A]

We could bring.

[D]

I hear you.

[C]

We could bring a nice squad.

[D]

Look like that versus.

[A]

I don't know. They took over Times Square.

[B]

That's what.

[A]

That's theyhood Now. A lot of that's their hood.

[D]

They got it.

[B]

I just found out we not going to Martha's Vineyard for vacation. One of my favorite things is catching up with my Cape Verdean community up there.

[A]

I know that's right.

[C]

I'm sorry that you went through that.

[B]

Yeah, it's pretty hard.

[A]

I don't see how y' all do shit like that with y' all wives. And don't try to flip some of them

[C]

purposeful silence.

[B]

We got a great show for you.

[C]

That might have been the best side.

[A]

Don't worry. Come on. I'm a. I'm a segue. Don't worry. I got this. I got this. I got us. Don't call us no more. This is the fifth time you called my application. I got 10,000 applications I got to look at. I'm stressed out. My phone been ringing back to back to back to back. You know what?

[E]

What's your name?

[D]

I'm gonna get up right now.

[C]

What's your name?

[D]

What's your name, dog on here? Okay, you got your application right here.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

Tara, don't see no degree on here. Not qualified. Don't see enough experience on here. Not qualified.

[E]

No project portfolio.

[A]

Not qualified. I hope you got your answer.

[D]

Did you get your answer? Did you get your answer?

[A]

Quit calling this phone upset. Oh, my God.

[B]

Yo, you know about Brownstone?

[A]

Joe, come on now, man. Me the slow jam king. Come on now, Mark.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Don't say nothing crazy because Brownstone might be listening.

[B]

I love Brownstone.

[A]

All right, all right.

[D]

Jumping the DM on you.

[B]

Every version.

[A]

Mike shake, Mike shake, Mike shake. Brownstone. What up? We love you up here. Yes, sir. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Whoa. How could you be a guy and not love Brownstone? When they first drop, you seen them lips? You look into my eye.

[D]

No, I didn't.

[A]

I was looking at that mouth, that mouth

[E]

open my heart inside Never knew

[A]

you're so untrue Goodbye, Background. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from Shout out to all the subgroups out there all the patronies out there all the parents out there. Hey, school almost over. I can't believe my kid is still in school.

[B]

I know.

[A]

It's over now. Today's the last day of school. That don't make no sense. House is Monday. They graduated and go back to school. Yeah, no wonder. I dropped whole week. That's crazy. Yes, sir. It's my vibe right now. This is my vibe. Late night in the car, on the highway.

[C]

Give me the arcs.

[A]

Give me the arcs. Yeah, I mean,

[B]

shout out to all

[A]

the dope boys out there, all the entrepreneurs out there. Everybody getting money, everybody at the airports, everybody on vacation out there. Hey, all the happy couples listening to this.

[B]

Shout out to y'.

[A]

All. Shout out to you. Miserable, too. It's divorce season. Don't sleep, don't sleep. Do not sleep. It goes. What else? Hey, yummy girl. I love you more than you could know. You in the car. Let me hear you out there, E. Go.

[E]

Always there for me Forever more.

[A]

I give you everything in my yummy quiet storm a day and

[B]

light F

[A]

for the kids in the back seat while mom got bls on. What up, what up, what up? All right. Normally I'd have cut it off right there and started. But I love this guy's voice. I love this guy's voice. Too smooth. It's too smooth.

[B]

More.

[A]

Yo, some of these family jeans are cheat codes, yo.

[B]

Yo, like the Edmondson.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

You got cousins that sound like this. And you got the greatest pen.

[B]

It ain't right.

[A]

What type of genetics are y' all doing? What type of oatmeal are y' all making over there? I open up Hulu. I seen a comedy special from somebody named Shanton Wayne. A young lady.

[B]

I never.

[A]

And I'm her name up. But I never heard of this person. But I didn't need to because I'm like, this lady is a waning.

[D]

I bet.

[A]

Who demands this?

[D]

I watch scary movies in jeans.

[B]

Jeans.

[A]

Yeah, it's true. All right, y' all know what we starting with. Y' all know we start with I already know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, everything's not anything if you're not here to share my dream. You don't know what it means to me if you oh, I dedicate my. My soul, my heart before it gotta be. All right, all right, that was fine. I'm done. I'm done.

[B]

Just bring back memories.

[A]

That for me, is like a four loco. That is like a four hour energy drink or some shit. Let me cut that off right there. God damn.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I ain't gonna lie. The car by yourself and you hit that after seven set, ready or not. And baby, I'm for real will do it to you. You'll sing. Keep this applause going for half of the best podcast crew in the world. Let's keep this applause.

[D]

All right.

[A]

What episode is this?

[C]

Parks 941.

[B]

What?

[A]

These shits are flying. What do y' all want to do for episode A thousand?

[C]

Turn the up.

[A]

Yeah, I seen some people saying that we needed to be back in Parks crib for.

[B]

Nah, sure.

[A]

That's always optional.

[B]

Need to be live.

[E]

Live.

[C]

Oh, outside live? Like live show live?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[C]

I didn't think.

[A]

Oh, you mean live show, like outside?

[B]

Yeah. You thought I meant like channel live, nigga.

[A]

No, I thought you meant like live stream.

[C]

Like stream it.

[B]

I mean, we could do that too. It just need to be something. That's not a bad idea.

[D]

That's a great idea.

[B]

I would say let's be outside in front of an audience and live streaming. But just a live stream.

[A]

Live stream with the bitches, man.

[B]

So does real life

[D]

a lot.

[B]

But you're not gonna be, you know, nevermind.

[A]

Oh, brother.

[B]

Oh, I forgot. I forgot, I forgot. He can't go outside no more.

[D]

Unless a thousand is in the next week.

[C]

The next five days.

[A]

59 more episod that's not true. In the great words of my baby, don't look at it like now you can't go outside anymore. Now you're just going outside as a couple. That's true.

[D]

All right. That's true.

[C]

That's true.

[D]

That'll do it.

[A]

And you gotta sit on the phone through some of this bullshit, like, with a straight. Oh, man. Baby, I love you and I can't wait. I can't wait to be fulfilled. Oh, you will be. I'm about to be.

[C]

Be.

[A]

I'm about to be.

[B]

Anyway, man, it's gonna be great.

[A]

Oh, I. I don't doubt it.

[B]

I don't doubt it.

[A]

I look forward.

[E]

I haven't been able.

[B]

With a boy.

[A]

I look forward to it. What are you saying?

[B]

When is she coming?

[C]

Couple days.

[A]

Yeah, a couple days.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I don't want to give the weirdos on the Internet exact dates. Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair.

[B]

But it's good, man. I can see the excitement in your face.

[A]

Can't wait.

[C]

Well, welcome to episode 941 of the Joe Button Podcast.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's what I was doing. Welcome to episode 941 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by a few by Powered By Prize Picks. Prize Picks, gang. You. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely anxious and eager host, Joseph Anthony Budden Jr here with some really amazing people to my right. Queens get the money. Big queens. Flip is in the building. Flip, how you doing, man?

[E]

I'm feeling good, man.

[A]

Come on, man, on your own schedule. A couple days before the contract end, man, do what the fuck you want. That's how I leave companies. That's how I lead companies. I leave companies with my. My balls on the table. Nigga come in whenever the fuck I feel like it. Nigga, spill coffee all over this establishment. Fuck are they talking about? Anyway, Queen's Flip is in the building next to him. Our good Brother, Philadelphia's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Or what was my new. The new name they gave you on in the streets? Dr. Mark Lamont, die on a Hill. That was a good one. That was a good one. I read recently. Next to him. Come on, stop playing with him. Stop playing with him. All that shit. When he first got on the pod, blowing the ants off the microphone with the stupid children's hoodie on. That shit is dead. It's Mafioso now. La familia. Get familiar, nigga. Big Freeze. Elizabeth's finest. Irvington's fine. I don't even know where he from. I never been to his house. But he repp a lot of hoods and a lot of niggas respect him in the street. Mr. Take it further himself with the Reebok Pump song. Pump, pump. Big Freeze. That was a great intro. That was a good intro.

[C]

He smoked that shit he did.

[A]

Listen, I think my girl moving in is gonna get that. I think 10 new shows is coming. I think there's a new podcast energy that I'm coming to work with.

[D]

I'm not wearing.

[A]

Baby, I can't wait till you get mad work. Oh, yeah. Nah, Shows is coming. Shows is coming.

[B]

About to say we ain't never leaving here. That's what I was thinking. I know.

[A]

Y' all can leave. Y' all can go. Teach me how to cut some of this shit on. Speaking of teaching how to cut some of this shit on.

[E]

Come in, man.

[A]

Y' all seen the DJ premiere, RZA vs. Man True. Y' all seen. Y' all seen his name in the credits, if y' all still read credits. You've been to Elmyra. Ask around when you get the store out there. Big Parks, Elmira's Finest is in the building.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Sparks, how you doing, man?

[C]

I'm good. I'm good. Feeling great.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that. Big Poe is in the building. Quarry is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savona here by remote. Last but certainly not least, don't ever get that part up. Each and every one of you guys are here. Make some noise for yourselves at home. What's up, y'? All?

[D]

What's good? What's poppin?

[A]

What's poppin? What's poppin?

[E]

Flip.

[B]

What up?

[A]

How you doing, man?

[E]

Hey, yo, I had a. I had a real healthy adult conversation with Ian yesterday.

[B]

Schwartzman.

[E]

Schwartzman. Yes, yes. Not Dunlap. Dunlap. My man, Ian. My man.

[A]

That money already in the bank. That dudlap money. You know what I mean?

[E]

Ian Swartzman. Yeah. Ian Swartzman had a healthy conversation. But now I think there's a trick going on. I see that the chairs are empty. So he wanted to save the conversation for Saturday to make sure I was gonna come in. Ian, you might have got me. I should have pushed the conversation last night, but it was very healthy. It was, you know, we on the same page. It looking promising.

[A]

That was the, ah, how toxic are we as brothers when the positive conversations leave us with an ill feeling and all.

[E]

Cause I came in so seats empty. He was like, yo, you know what? Let's continue this Saturday. You know, if you would've told me some shit, nigga, I'm not coming in tomorrow. Nah, I would've said that. I would've stood on my head. But he used his equity with me and his love. I love you. You know, I'm going through what I'm going through.

[B]

When he say I love you, that's when you about to get. Oh, ye.

[E]

He got me.

[A]

Well, no, is. Is running a little late.

[E]

Whatever. Make sure you hear that.

[A]

Something he had to do. Make sure you hear Mona, if I'm not mistaken. Should be at like an animal shelter speaking to

[E]

like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Shout out to. It was a very. It was a very healthy conversation. It was mature. It wasn't like, when I think about it, cuz I have my notes. You know, I. I didn't record that conversation, but you know, I have notes and to see the progress of how healthy has gotten and how like. Oh, come on. I don't give a fuck y' all niggas. Fuck y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

I'm not coming up there to. Oh, I understand. This is what I want. And it was very healthy.

[B]

Shout out to Ian can ask you a question. Is it likely or at least a good chance that you'll come back? Cause we.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's likely. It's like, well, I don't know, Joe.

[B]

Do you feel that way?

[A]

Yeah, that decision is totally up to Flip. You know I want him back. You know I want Flip back. I love Flip.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. We carry a boy.

[B]

Cause I don't want him to go nowhere. That's why I'm asking.

[A]

I'm not one of them people that, like, I'll be back, like in a relationship if I dealt with the worst of the headaches already. I'm not quick to throw you to the street so someone else can thrive with you.

[B]

That's. That's my philosophy.

[A]

I'm not.

[E]

Yeah, they gave me two options. To eat a sleep.

[A]

Seriously.

[E]

They say they got different words. They use it more. N. Yeah.

[A]

I done been through the hard part already, so I'm not just. No, I want to stay and reap some of the benefits.

[B]

That's how I feel like even in my other businesses, like, I'm not. This isn't about you. Seriously.

[E]

I got you.

[B]

Like. Like, I have like 10. Like, in my coffee shop, I have 10 baristas. And two of them will be like, mediocre. This is not a shot. I'm being like. And I used to want to fire the two and keep trying to get two better ones, but you never get 10. So at least the ones you know you can trust, you know how good they are, you know what they can do because you recycle the next one, they'll be worse or they up the chemistry or they'll fuck up the energy or they'll do some Other dumb shit, and then you end up starting over again anyway.

[A]

And to that point, I'm a fan of the headache. I know. Versus the headache. I don't.

[B]

Cause, you know.

[D]

Yeah, that's kind of what he said.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Cause I did that before. Then the two guys put it right there. First you guys made, like, bad coffee. The next two guys stole money. It is like, I would have had the guy who just made mediocre coffee.

[A]

That's why I put it right where I put it.

[E]

Leave him alone.

[A]

Understand?

[E]

You can say what you know, but

[A]

I'm on the Mount Rushmore. Like, I put it there anyway.

[E]

No, I appreciate it.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. It was just healthy. And I'm good. I'm happy to be here, Parks.

[C]

Good, good.

[D]

We're happy to have you here.

[B]

We're happy to have you.

[E]

I want to talk to straight white men first from now on.

[B]

Flip.

[E]

Oh, Flip.

[B]

So I was just telling him a freaking. My wife told me that we're no longer going to Martha's Vineyard. Martha's Vineyard. For the summer, which is.

[E]

I thought your wife was telling you something about. Tell Flip to shut the fuck up. Ooh. My heart dropped. I respect her so much. Hey. I love her so much.

[B]

If I reported back every time my wife said that, we wouldn't even.

[A]

I'm so damn.

[E]

All right. Okay. No, no.

[B]

She told me that instead we're going to Grenada.

[A]

Oh, did you email the dates, Nigga?

[B]

I just.

[E]

I'm going to Grenada, too, Joe.

[B]

We're going to Grenada.

[A]

It's tough. Just a quick Wednesday, Thursday trip. He'll be all right in August.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

I'm going down there.

[B]

Not in front of Joe.

[E]

I'm going down there for Grenada. I'm going down there for Grenada Carnival.

[B]

We're going to avoid Grenada Carnival.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[A]

You gonna get.

[B]

We gonna go right after, I think, the 11, whatever it is. Of course you'll be at Carnival. Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I was gonna ask, is that the spot to go to?

[D]

Will I be.

[E]

I never been to Grenada, but the Caribbean is always beautiful. You know? Caribbean is beautiful with your significant other.

[A]

Then the balls even to discuss it in front. Is it beautiful out there?

[E]

I'm gonna flip, nigga. When your boss come in and say, hey, yo, what up, y'? All, Look, I'm about to take the pj and me and my girl, we about to go to Cabo for, like, seven days. Y' all niggas hold it down.

[A]

I ain't been nowhere with my girl in over a year and a Half. And I'm hearing about it too now.

[B]

Give me like one on one. Just so.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Just us without the kids.

[A]

We went with the kids and then we went on with all of the friends. That'll never happen again. Not y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

I'm talking about before that. We went to with some other people. That wasn't on right. Like a group trigger. I never did that. That was watching you again. That would. Nick,

[B]

I don't even know that story.

[A]

Oh, my God. No, no, it was a nightmare, Mark. It was an absolute nightmare. It was the worst trick.

[B]

No, no, I remember this.

[A]

Oh, he. Oh, shit.

[E]

Cory. Fuck out of with me.

[D]

Nah, he gotta tell a little bit. Tell Mark a little bit.

[A]

Yo, please. That shit was funny. Long story. As short as I could possibly make it.

[C]

Oh, this is with the bad bed and all that, right?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For New Year's, last minute, we wasn't doing shit. So one of our good homegirls was like, yo, I'm gathering a group of friends, a couple of em. You know a couple of them. You don't. We're gonna go to wherever the fuck. I don't even remember. I've erased this shit out of my brain. But we went to, I don't know, some For a trip. Airbnb got a house. And we was all gonna meet up there and have fun. So we get there. Cause they be listening to this shit, man. So we get there, one of the couples is fighting the whole time. One of the couples out there. I think we could see the lady in real time realize that what the fuck am I doing with this clown ass nigga, you know? So we got that movie, then we had some other single people in there that just was on my girl. The who time. Like, uncomfortably, like, awkward.

[B]

That's weird.

[A]

Like awkward to the point where I had to say something.

[E]

Oh, you said something? You ain't tell us you said something?

[D]

Yeah, you said. I thought I was gonna have to say something.

[A]

I told Toy. Oh, oh, okay.

[E]

I thought you said something.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't do that. I spoke to Toy about it and the bed broke at some point. It's not a house that I necessarily would have been. It was. I won't.

[B]

It's gotcha.

[A]

Actually, that trip is what birthed our fucking trip. Cause I was like, I gotta do this. But like, with the right way, with my friends.

[D]

With the right. Yeah, with the right people.

[A]

Yeah. So I ain't. We ain't taking a trip in a while. That is all so you should do it this summer.

[E]

You should. Yeah.

[B]

Just don't do my. Just don't do my week. But any other.

[C]

We could go down for an episode and take. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, that's not a bad idea.

[A]

You know what's funny about that, too? And I thought about fucking. If I had a solo show, I would come in here and go on this long rant about how at this time of the year, the year will kind of let you know. It will dictate its place in your life. By this point, by going on July, the year is letting you know exactly what type of time the universe is on with you. So in this. Whatever the universe is doing to me, I could see how broke I am until February with all the things that need to happen between this show or this house or this birthday gathering. Like, it's all. So I'm strapped. While she told me, oh, we never had a vacation. We gonna have to wait a little bit, honey. We got shit going. This year's mapped out already.

[B]

Good luck.

[A]

I'm in January. This year's January. Done. Sorry.

[B]

I told my wife we're good till

[C]

February, which happens to also be tax time, so.

[B]

Right. That's the thing.

[C]

So maybe next June.

[A]

No, tax time for me is September.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

It's quarterly.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

And it just left. I don't have. No, they. It's there. They got me. They got me.

[B]

I tell my wife the same.

[A]

They got me.

[B]

Then she sent me the dates for Grenada like this.

[D]

What we doing?

[B]

Right.

[D]

I heard you.

[A]

I heard you, right.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Cuz they feel like if you a real man, make it happen.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You think they feel like that about us sometimes?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

All the time.

[D]

No, that's all.

[A]

All the time.

[E]

My wife is testing me to my. I got to write her a love letter. Write me a love letter.

[C]

That's what the.

[A]

She be watching. Love is not the same conversation at all. Glad to write the letter.

[E]

Hold on. Don't dismiss my wife in her love letter.

[A]

My wife, love.

[E]

I love that. That she wrote that. She told me that. But also she's been talking about this Hawaii trip that she's been wanting to go on for years, since I was broke.

[C]

Write the love letter out a nice picture of Hawaii.

[E]

Exactly.

[A]

Start with aloha and just text me a paragraph from it. I just got it opening bars. I just got to read what your sauce is for like 30.

[E]

Hey, yo, you dodged your head.

[A]

Nah, honestly, no, for real.

[B]

I got so many questions. You dodge your head Bro, no, we'll get.

[E]

And we'll get to that.

[A]

I'm actually buffer right now.

[C]

If I used it, I would go to ChatGPT right now and say, what would flip Clip's love letter.

[E]

She told me that she came in the room. I want you to write me a love letter. I listen to the radio, and we people miss the simple things in life. In my head, I'm like, have you

[B]

ever written one before?

[E]

Years ago, when I was. I was younger.

[B]

To her or like in high school. I'm saying I did.

[E]

I did write one to her. Yes. When I was younger.

[B]

Just one question. One more question. Because I don't want to get what

[E]

would respect my wife.

[B]

No, I respect your wife fully. Fully.

[C]

We love her.

[B]

We love her.

[D]

Sure.

[B]

What's the first sentence of your love letter?

[E]

Here's the thing. I'm not gonna give you the first sentence, but I will tell you what she doesn't like. She doesn't like when I reminisce on the struggles we went through.

[C]

Yeah, you shouldn't do that.

[B]

You just had a love letter.

[E]

I did that a lot.

[C]

You do that a lot?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Ew. Yeah. That's a horrible love letter.

[E]

No, that's not the love letter.

[A]

You helped me down when I used

[C]

to be a piece of shit. You want me with the three?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, you stayed through some shit. I ain't gonna hold you. Yo, nobody else would have. Oh, they got it with a three holes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hold up, hold up.

[E]

We laid on the couch, on the floor, all that shit.

[A]

I keep bringing it up.

[C]

Time out. Ice has chat GPT. The Queen's flip love letter to his wife.

[D]

Chat GPT. If Queen's flip were to write a love letter to his wife, how would it go?

[E]

Okay.

[D]

It says, to my queen. You know what's crazy? The world sees me yelling, joking, arguing, dancing on tables, doing all the wild stuff. That's entertainment.

[A]

They be smoking shit.

[D]

But the real me. The real me is the man who comes to home to you.

[A]

Like they smoking like. Like that's a prize. Oh, I get the real you.

[E]

All right.

[A]

Now you eating. That's the they.

[D]

They.

[A]

It's. They wrote a long chat GPT be smoking.

[B]

That they do. I'm impressed.

[E]

They do.

[A]

I used that one time, and it was so good, I didn't use it no more.

[E]

Here's the thing real quick. I didn't think it was an issue. I just wanted while I was doing that or what, I would remind her. I was just showing. I didn't forget where we came from. But at some point, she got tired of it. I'm tired of. We overcame the fighting. I'm tired of you. She told me that one day, and I kind of got offended. Like, what? However, I see, you know, this was a couple of years ago, like, about six, seven years ago. She said that, like, you always write what we went through. You think I want to remember that? But it was like, why wouldn't you? This is where we come from. Humble beginnings. That's how I look at it.

[B]

What do you think she wants to hear here?

[C]

Good. How about you?

[E]

Like, I guess in the now, in particular. Yeah, I got you. But to me, I think she wants to hear in the now. I love you. I love who you are now.

[C]

The future.

[E]

I like you. Yeah.

[C]

The future.

[E]

Yeah, the future. Yeah. I don't think she wants to hear that old. I thought that the old would keep me grounded, but apparently it doesn't.

[B]

That's dope, man.

[A]

They just be wanting to be feel acknowledged, man.

[B]

That's all. Yeah, that's all. Write that letter, man.

[D]

So y' all doing the Hawaii trip,

[B]

though, and then book.

[E]

I'm gonna take Maui, man.

[B]

Book a trip to.

[E]

I am gonna take her to Hawaii. I do plan. She's been asking it for years. My daughter pressed me about it, like, you going to all these places.

[D]

My daughter like, a wedding.

[C]

You got to put the tickets in there in the. You know what I mean, with the love letter.

[E]

I'mma take it to Hawaii.

[B]

Oh, that's. Yo, we. We just hooked you up. Write the letter.

[E]

You going to book my Hawaiian trip

[B]

and just put the tickets in there.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

You go to Expedia.

[A]

Oh, that's not a problem.

[E]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I think we saw a good flip side.

[C]

We did. Got you. We did it.

[A]

It. It pains me to have to do this. Ten minutes, y'. All. I'm not spending a whole bunch of time on prompts. Verses won't even.

[E]

I watch that, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

45 minutes.

[E]

You cleaned it up quick. Them, they are pretty, Ricky. Like the. The king's gods like that. And they. Molly, go get pleasure. P. Mad. Yo, Amario, you my man. I speak to you on the phone. I have nothing bad to say about you. However. Yo, are you crazy?

[C]

It was like that. I missed it first off.

[D]

It fucked me up because they dropped like haymaker at song one.

[C]

Nice.

[D]

And I was like, interesting strategy, because, you know, people try to say the. They drop jokers. I'm talking about they running spades out the gate.

[A]

Slow down. Oh, Go ahead.

[D]

Slow down. Go ahead.

[A]

Maybe we will spend a few seconds on this. Okay, maybe we'll spend just a couple seconds on this. These two groups hate each other.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And have hated each other for quite some time now. I'm not saying that they not friendly and cordial or have relationships musically, though. But musically, musically, this is a thing.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

And as the battle went on, you started to see even how the fans were talking. Like, one girl described it as, yo, the fucking B2K music is like for the girls that lived in the suburbs. And the Pretty Ricky music is for the girls that, like, lived in Nana house and was sneaking niggas in. One girl said, B2K music is like when you have a crush on a boy and you about to ask him out for the first time. And Pretty Ricky music is when you getting finger banged in the backseat. No, seriously. Right, Tracks. So then as the night went on, people were saying, Yo, B2K should have went against Old Town.

[E]

Damn, B5.

[A]

Damn. No, but seriously, it was bad.

[C]

It was like that.

[A]

So now I'm outside on the phone dealing with fucking all types of bullshit. But I got the TV on loud. B2K comes out. They look great.

[B]

Sure they do.

[E]

Shout out to them.

[A]

The outfits, the black, all that black sequence, whatever the fuck they was wearing, the different versions of it, they looked like a current R B. They looked great. But Pretty Ricky looked like throwback great. Like, Pretty Ricky had the all red on with the fist. They look like they could have been the pop and R B group in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and probably stop there. But the outfit spoke. They were loud. I'm paying attention. This is a night of about expression. So I'm looking at everything. B2K starts with girlfriend.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

To Ice's point about bangers. To me, that was a bad sign. Like, you gotta unload Paul's girlfriend. Round one against Pretty Ricky.

[C]

They went first, B2K.

[A]

Well, this is the other mistake, Parks. They flipped the coin and B2K won. And trick Daddy said, all right, y' all won. Who do y' all want to go first? And B2K, being arrogant, said, we going first. Huge mistake. Huge mistake. So they started with girlfriends on some arrogant B2K. Right off the bat, the.

[B]

The hit. The hit.

[D]

What's the hit?

[A]

Not grind with me.

[E]

You talking about Pretty Ricky?

[D]

Ricky.

[A]

I mean, Pretty Ricky came right Grind with me. Yep.

[C]

Neutralize that.

[A]

1 0, 1 0, B2K.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

No, 1 0.

[A]

I mean. I mean, I'm sorry. 1 0. Pretty Ricky.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

B2K comes back with.

[C]

With.

[A]

Huh? That's that upbeat record. Yeah, that's it. Girl, you messed up when you're down. And now I was. I was like, I'm on Def Jam at this time when B2K is the hottest thing in the world.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's clear, like, they doing the new edition for younger people. They got all the hit song makers, all the hit beat makers, all the hit marketing. Everybody involved with Beats 2K was them. Them.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Pretty Ricky was always the hottest regionally. That kind of then took off. So we have that here in versus yet again the big machine versus what's bubbling regionally. And they put that on. Han on and be. And Pretty Ricky came back. Your body with your body.

[D]

Night, night.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Two nothing. Pretty Ricky.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So now B2K has jokes. It was jokes all night. Yes, it was jokes chippy.

[E]

But it was.

[A]

It started chippy and it just continued to be chippy. But it was jokes and they was funny. They was funny. B2K was like, all right, they should be out of song soon. They should be like, they Jewel, Santana themselves. They did bad because. And boy, was it a mistake. It was. It was a bad. So they said, yeah, these guys, these brothers should be running out of joints point soon. And then B2K, they. They kept going and all of these songs again to how it aged it. They all sounded like Teeny Bopper.

[C]

Well, they were.

[A]

But how it sounds today, how it

[E]

sounds compared to Pretty Ricky's coming from

[C]

grow meds too, at this point.

[A]

That's my point. Yeah, they didn't have. None of it sounded hard. And you need hard at some point. And it all sounded very soft.

[C]

Gotcha.

[A]

So while they were hard in their appearance with the black Jodeci, everything else was soft, soft, soft, soft, soft. By the time they did track two, I said, oh, they gonna have a long night. Cause they all was kind of rapping this song. I'm like, yo, are these four rappers? None of these niggas are singing. They just all kind of rapping and ad libbing and screaming over each other.

[D]

Oh, they pointed out.

[A]

And we said, pretty Ricky. Ricky performs better than these. So now if B2K is just gonna highlight their own shortcomings, Pretty Ricky's knocked.

[D]

Then they start shortening the songs. They even got seconds. Yeah, they was just like, yo, we just doing a half a verse.

[E]

It got so bad that Raspy came in in the middle and started to thank the yo, I want to thank y' all and thank God. Out of nowhere. And what song no, no, no.

[A]

It wasn't the third. It wasn't the third. Because there was signs throughout this battle. It was early that B2K was losing it. Like the spurs, they were losing confidence gradually as this night went on. Because like Flip said, at some point, maybe five or six songs later, a song came on, and Amara and the rest of the group was like, nah, nah, stop it. Let Raz spit a little something. Let Raz give him a little something first.

[C]

That's what we want.

[A]

Yeah. So then Raz B gets to the middle of the stage and he said he sounded.

[E]

Sound beautiful.

[A]

He sounded beautiful.

[E]

Yes, he did.

[A]

He sounded absolutely. He said some shit that sounded heartfelt. He was like, yo, y' all know about some of my battles I've been going through just for. It's a miracle for me to even be standing here.

[C]

Sounds like a Flip love letter.

[A]

Yada, yada, yada. It was very heartfelt. But the fact that you doing that right this second is not coming off like that. It's coming off like pity cry for help. Oh, you trying to pull out every trick in the book. Oh, boy. This is gospel at the apology. That's what this is. And then you had the nerve to. Whatever song they played after that, Raz B was the lead. What a mistake. Whatever song they went to a song, some song I had never heard. Raz B was the lead vocalist on this song. Bad, Bad, Bad Sign. And later on, they played another song that Fizz was the lead on.

[D]

They pointed it out Bad.

[A]

I mean, not for J Book.

[D]

Somebody.

[A]

Somebody. Not somebody that shouldn't have been the lead was the lead. I'm like, oh, if we get into that part, man. Said B2K ain't got but so many albums.

[D]

They only got two albums. Two albums.

[B]

Two.

[C]

Two and a Poppy and a Christmas. Well.

[A]

And then as the night went on and the confidence was dwindling, you started to see. Cause Pleasure Pete kept saying, yo, y' all can't even sing.

[E]

That's all.

[A]

He like, you can't sing none of these songs. Then he started singing one of they songs. Oh, shit. Yeah.

[D]

Right about the middle of the stage.

[A]

And then Omarion came out like he was about to have a sing off. But he never hit a note like he let Pleasure P. Just do.

[D]

But he kept telling him, like, yo, you can't do this, though.

[A]

Sing.

[D]

Let's sing right now. How about that?

[C]

Oh, so he was shitting on him.

[D]

Yeah, yo, right now, the nigga was sing.

[E]

Yo, pause. He walked over there and started to sing in Their ears while they was huddling. That's crazy. He's just doing disrespectful shit all night.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So then, so then, so then you could see B2K and them start to like, Flip said huddle.

[C]

Got you.

[A]

Mind you Pretty. Pretty Ricky, when they performing is they playing dominoes and drinking Henny, they got a table. No, they got a table on the side with they back turned to be.

[D]

They not even playing them no more.

[A]

They playing cards.

[C]

See, I deal with it. I fuck with that.

[A]

It was so fly, yo.

[B]

Yeah, it was.

[E]

It was.

[A]

Was what?

[D]

They.

[A]

They was out ordering. They was out ordering these. They had Trick Daddy over there. Everybody on that Florida side was wearing red from.

[E]

Again, Florida, three or five.

[A]

So they. All them. Florida was wearing red.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Pretty Ricky had had something with some ass and tits over there, too. I always appreciate that as a viewer. As a viewer watching at home, I'mma give a point to whoever got tits and ass with them.

[D]

They had something over there.

[A]

And B2K.

[D]

They just.

[A]

They just didn't. They just.

[D]

They had Lizzo.

[C]

Huh?

[A]

They had Lizzo's over there shout out to Lizzo. But even that, Pretty Ricky starts saying, yo, hey, dog, they gonna need Lizzo to come out and do a song they running out of.

[C]

Not the best time either for that, respectfully.

[E]

Hey, hold on.

[C]

Lizzo just sold thousand albums, Fox.

[E]

Why did they do that? Lizzo did the ad lib part in.

[C]

Did she do the flute?

[E]

La la la la la la la la Sounded crazy.

[C]

She didn't bring the flute out.

[E]

No, she just sounded crazy with that

[B]

la la la la part.

[E]

Whatever the fuck that part was. Sounded horrible.

[C]

Damn.

[E]

I don't know what the fuck they were thinking. They're like, yo, Lizzo, do it.

[B]

I said, that's desperation.

[A]

So it's getting so bad. I stopped keeping the score.

[D]

I got the scorecard.

[A]

I stopped keeping the score. At one point, I put this shit on mute and just started. I didn't.

[E]

I didn't.

[A]

It was too bad. It was too much of a murder that I was witnessing.

[D]

I didn't want to.

[A]

I love B2K. I wasn't trying to view them in that. In that light, but what was going on was absolutely. At one point, spectacular goes to the front of the crowd. Oh, I'm not talking about that shit he did. I'm on.

[D]

You talking about girl that was in the front?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He goes to one of the B2K fans in the front. He said, look at you. You've been here this whole night.

[D]

You Got them on your shirt.

[A]

No. Yeah, you on you, you. They on your shirt. None of them walk. Nobody here all night.

[E]

Mama bashing.

[A]

None of them acknowledge you. Look at them over there. They just been ignoring you. Who grabbed your hand? Pretty Ricky got it. So then Raspy gonna come over and try to say something. He like, nigga, don't say nothing to it.

[D]

He said, don't say nothing.

[A]

Now you've been ignoring her the whole night. Don't say nothing. Now, what else happened? That was funny. It was too much funny shit. Oh, so now because this is so funny, I just tweet randomly. Yo, just do Icebox Man. This is so bad because at one point, they started doing. They came out and said. And I felt bad. I needed to fly there and do Pump It Up. The day came out was like, all right, y' all see, loosen. Who seen Motherfuckers stomped the yard? What's the movie?

[D]

You got served.

[A]

Who seen you got served.

[D]

Y' all know this, right?

[A]

They don't know that we grew up. Yo, we not. This ain't the Millennial Tour. You in la and this whole crowd is singing Pretty Ricky B sides. Oh, shit. And Pretty Ricky know it. So at the end of every song, they have a nigga play a banjo, just a regular string. And they sing. And all you hear is the audience. So if you at home and you don't know this song, watching this, you

[D]

can see what it was.

[A]

Well. And the songs are hard.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they sound better. They aged better. And these niggas rap better than whoever the B2K rapper is. And the singer sings better than. And the songwriters, B2K started trying to say, hey, we got Troy Taylor over here. That's how you know it's getting bad. They start shouting on Troy, we about to go to our Troy Taylor bash. Pretty Ricky was like, go ahead. We have Troy Taylor records. Like, talk to Troy. We have. Oh, you don't know our cat. We're gonna play a Troy record, too.

[B]

It was bad.

[A]

So they played a record from you Got Served.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Not okay. Big mistake. They playing some shit from the soundtrack

[D]

when they got back on stage. Yo, y' all don't know that song?

[A]

I don't know them songs.

[D]

It was like, the only that knew his song was his kids. Look. The only ones who say, oh, then

[A]

he brought his kid on stage. Mario brought his kid on stage. This was one of the. This was bad, yo. This was bad. This is. This is Dipset locks. No Fab Jadakiss.

[B]

That seems worse. It's worse. Than all of that.

[A]

No, it's bad.

[D]

So, you know. You know, this was a murder. No. 8th of 180 was the official score. You know, complex keeps the track.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

180 was the score, and, you know, they the record for record. They show the percentages. There was not a pretty. I'm looking at the whole. There was not a Pretty Ricky song that got under 60% of the vote for that round.

[C]

Oh, so it was a Molly mopping.

[A]

It was real bad.

[D]

This was the worst. It was real bad washing I've ever seen in the verses.

[C]

I was gonna watch it later. I might skip this one.

[E]

I mean, what you see is that.

[A]

No, it's funny.

[B]

It was hilarious. I'm gonna watch it for the bloodbath now.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Gotta watch it.

[E]

I think what I've learned is that. That without knowing the history or whatever, that, you know, B2K, Pretty Ricky, they're in tune. They're in tune with each other. B2K is not. B2K is not in tune. They're not on the same page.

[C]

Sounds like dipset locks.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[E]

Like he just said.

[A]

A lot of group dynamics, unfortunately, are gonna experience that. And Pretty Ricky highlighted it like, Omarion, I told you. I tweeted he should do Icebox. Then he does Icebox. I wanted to say I was joking, nigga. So he started doing his solo records, and Pleasure P is like, hey, buddy, they not here for Omarion solo records. They not here for Pleasure P solo records. This is B2K. Pretty Ricky, I know you having trouble staying with your group. Actually, probably when this verses is over, you about to lead them niggas again, ain't you? Oh, shit. Nah, they was cutting a rug.

[C]

Damn.

[D]

Well, the shit was.

[A]

Yeah,

[D]

Pleasure P had did a live with Bow Wow. Cause Bow Wow was like, orchestrating all of this as they were trying to, you know, before they announced the verses. And he was like, yo, this ain't Omarion versus Pleasure P. I'm not doing no solo records.

[A]

This is group versus group.

[D]

We here for the group. He was like, and if he start doing solo records, that mean we know y' all down bad. And we walking off the stage, we out.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And he did Icebox.

[D]

He did Icebox.

[A]

And they were down. Bad.

[D]

They was down, but it did nothing.

[A]

It was. They ran out of records long before Pretty Ricky ran out of records then.

[C]

Long.

[D]

A long time before Omarion tries to save it and start doing solo records.

[A]

Pleasure P got a little tote. It may not be a big duffel.

[D]

He didn't have to Go in it.

[A]

But he got a little toe dope.

[D]

But he didn't go in it.

[A]

Nah, I think he did the up.

[D]

He was like, I'm gonna let this right. He didn't do boyfriend number two. He did not go in his bag.

[A]

He did up.

[D]

He did up. Just as a. All right, I'm gonna give. I'm gonna do one. But I didn't even touch my bag

[B]

is what I'm saying.

[A]

We saying the same thing. I'm saying, what a chess move. I beat it. Beat it up in the bay. I mean, in la, maybe. This your song. All my ladies in the club tonight. Omarion, I'm sorry. Go home, Amari. He would have had to start doing. What's the. With Janae? He might. He did that.

[E]

He did.

[D]

Supposed to be Jesus, but by then, they're walking off the stage like family. Perform your race.

[A]

By then, you would have Janae out to, like, have a baby. We had to do some magic shit.

[D]

She had to. Yo, dj, you got supposed to be queued up, like. Wait, what?

[C]

Right?

[D]

It was bad, yo. It was bad.

[E]

I like that new record, though.

[A]

Oh, that's how you know it's getting. Oh, my God.

[E]

It was fire.

[A]

I'm.

[E]

I'm sorry.

[A]

This is how you know it was going bad. No, no, no, I. I like the record, too.

[C]

I saw.

[A]

I like the. Let me. I like the record in. In real life, like. Like, if I'm in my car tonight by myself, I'll put that record on and have a black. That's a hard record.

[E]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Debuting that record during verses while you get ass whooped. But it's called mileage, and it's about. We don't care how many niggas you done fuck. Come over here and get loved. While the theme is. You got all these boy toy sounding. All these Pretty Ricky songs is about action. Somebody tweeted. Somebody was like. Unfortunately, Pretty Ricky does have the songs to do all of this. You know, the famous. Ain't no song in the world make this nigga do this. But they got the dog. It's finger banging. His finger banging. Long, long, short stroke. Fucking outside public places. Voyeurism.

[C]

What's up?

[A]

Exhibitionist. Yeah, Exhibitionist mission. This I can't even talk to. It was a. All the what? Come on, man, get these out of here. Then they played some other song that I had that I. Damn, I don't even know the name one of them songs.

[D]

I was hearing it kind of for

[A]

the first time, and that sounded like a smash and clearly, the audience knew it because they put the banjo out at the end, every word. And the audience was like. It was one of them calling responses. That's just so fly. Pleasure P was saying something and then in the background saying, aye, aye, aye, aye. I'm like, yo, pack B2K up. They can go. This is a clinic in song making, performing groups, showmanship, everything. Group dynamics. This was just an absolute even.

[D]

They beat him in banter, like, in everybody. He's like, yo, y' all got the all black one. Perfect for y' all feel.

[A]

Funeral. Yeah, you just.

[D]

Yeah, it was on their ass, bro.

[C]

They ain't no flips or nothing, right?

[A]

Oh, no, no.

[D]

He has a brother there in the balcony on the side.

[A]

That's what he needs.

[D]

That wouldn't have worked.

[A]

Nothing would have worked last night.

[D]

Nothing would have worked. They'd have had to call R. Kelly out there. I'm about to buy the best of

[A]

Pretty Ricky so fast. You think I ain't buying the best of Pretty Rick? That show they put on last night,

[D]

then they try to hit him with a low blow. Yo, yo, Whis, look him at. Whistle. I ain't like that.

[A]

We don't care.

[D]

I ain't like that.

[A]

It was too late by that point.

[D]

It was too late.

[A]

This battle was over.

[D]

But I ain't like that. Like, now you mad, so you just gotta try to get a hit, get a hit off.

[A]

Yo, if I'm performing my song and a start playing dominoes with his back to me, I might hit him. Yo, that was so smooth how they was just playing them.

[D]

He was like, wait, what we over here playing tongue. What'd you say? Oh, as I go. All right, hold on, hold on. Take another shot real quick.

[A]

After one of them Fizz records, Pleasure P and them came on stage, they was like, I ain't gonna hold you. They don't even do that one on tour. Yeah, we never heard. They never heard that we toured with them. They don't do that one, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

They don't know that song. They just added that to the mix. No, no, The Bandit was a one.

[D]

It was.

[C]

Maybe I will watch it.

[B]

Well, that's the one thing about verses I like is it forces you to or reminds you how dope somebody is or somebody you didn't appreciate for. Like, I didn't appreciate Pretty Ricky fully just because of the time period. I'm gonna go back and listen to all that now.

[A]

Another reason I know we ain't Eskimo brothers.

[B]

I was fucking them then while you Was listening to Pretty Ricky. We gonna reveal this at some point.

[C]

Oh, wait, you're gonna do the Eskomo review?

[B]

Yeah, maybe the end of Can't Wait. Maybe today. Joe's telling me.

[A]

Then Pretty Ricky got the nerd. Not pretty Ricky. B2K got the nerve to drop new music after that debacle.

[C]

I thought it was just. Oh. Or did they drop?

[A]

No, they both did. Omarion put out a project that you spoke about and. And they. B2K put out a single mallage.

[C]

Oh, okay. Not. Not so great.

[A]

I like the record.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I didn't hit Omarion. Shit. I like the Beach.

[A]

But the song is a microcosm of what all of their critics say about. It's just. It's not a strong vocal. It's kind of reliant on the beat sample and music. Like, it's.

[D]

They even tried to address that, though. The fact that people be saying that about their music. Like, yo, we make grow music too. Yo, drop that. And nobody knew the song, bro.

[A]

No, they did know that song, but the problem is it didn't work. That was kids doing grown music. And that's one of their bigger songs. That was one of my favorite songs. Gotta be. Got to be the one. You make it right. See, and that's why they were saying, listen to the lyrics.

[D]

Maybe it was gotta be. I don't. I thought it was another record, but still would be too. Would Pretty Ricky follow up with it? Yeah, it don't matter.

[C]

I didn't even see no new song on their page.

[A]

I got you. I got you. Let me see. B2K.

[D]

We gonna get to that new shit. This dropped tonight. I was like, oh, no, not while you down.

[A]

I don't see it.

[D]

Not while you're down. Maybe they changed their mind. Let's go rework that for a little bit.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, I don't see it here.

[B]

Yup.

[A]

Not a bad song though.

[D]

Anyway, the song was cool.

[A]

Shout out to all participants. That was fun. That was fun. I had a good night. Staying in the house.

[D]

That was fun.

[B]

And we nailed it. And we nailed that 10 minute thing. Thing for sure.

[A]

Yeah. But we kept it shorter than normal. We know.

[E]

What else, what else? What else?

[A]

What else is going on?

[D]

Talking about music and stuff. Y' all see the challenge that Big Daddy Kane got going?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I absolutely love this.

[C]

And I love it.

[B]

I love this.

[D]

Bar is open.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know what he's calling. I guess he's got a 16 bar version and an 8 bar version.

[D]

He put his verse and then He. He's calling out certain folk and they responded.

[C]

Saw Conway do one. I saw. I saw J. Kiss do one. Saw a special asking for the beat. You want to get his lick back.

[A]

I'm not mad.

[D]

I think that's doing a little. A little too much.

[C]

Why?

[D]

Because now I look like you're chasing it. Like you said what you had to say. Okay, cool. Kiss bodies it. And now you immediately jump online calling for the beat.

[C]

But he said some shit that could be taken as a slap.

[D]

I know, I know, to be clear. But when it's an open challenge like that, don't ask for the beat. Let the person that's issuing the challenges. Like he called out Conway. He called out kiss. Yeah, let him call you out. You just look a little thirsty when you. Yo, let me get the beat. Well, dog, we wasn't.

[A]

If he.

[D]

He'd have gotten to you. If he wanted to throw the ball your way, go call for it. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

You know, special Parks, man.

[D]

Yeah, I understand.

[A]

Specialist Parks, man.

[C]

But they've had their back and forth on. On. On Instagram. Kiss. I think I forgot what it was. There was a. A, you know, a clipper page saying something about Spesh, thinks he's one of the best. And Kiss was in there saying, yo, he is like, he could say that. He should say it.

[A]

Something along them lines.

[D]

I'm just talking about solely from him. The comments about the feature verse make it look like Kiss is ducking now. Kiss do that. Now you call it just looks a little.

[E]

A little.

[D]

A little thirsty.

[C]

I think they had.

[D]

Looks a little thirsty.

[A]

Ballsy. Yeah, it's a ballsy move, I'll tell you that. One special. Go ahead and get in that verse and say anything that. That could make Mr. Kiss have a.

[C]

Kiss was throwing shots in his verse.

[D]

He did well.

[A]

Yeah, but I feel like that's the response to a shot that was sent at me, right? Or one that could be perceived that way. All I'm saying is. Cause I like everybody involved. Be careful playing with these niggas. That's top 15, top 10 of all time, yo. Yeah, they older now, so they on some healthy shit. They non violent.

[D]

I think that's when they most dangerous. Older now. I'm chilling. I ain't now. I got Tom. You don't wanna get a killer Tom.

[A]

Nah, these niggas be old. They just be wanting to be with their family. Joe and Jada just did a Father's Day episode with they kids.

[C]

That's fine.

[A]

Yeah, that was Dope niggas don't really wanna go into boy booth. And all that has to go in your to write what you need to do. Nobody really wants that.

[D]

Exactly. It's like when that nigga decided to

[A]

go in the booth. When Jean Grey does that super Phoenix shit, like she get a migraine. Like the rest of the world feel it, but she be fucked up full of it.

[E]

So.

[A]

I mean, it's exhausting is all I'm saying. Which leads me to another quick question about nothing that we talking about that I wanted to ask y'. All. If I saw this floating around in and out. I just thought it was interesting. If you could fuck one superhero to get their powers, who would it be? And why?

[C]

There's only about so many.

[B]

June, what were you gonna say?

[A]

It's Pride Month.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

So if you want to fuck Colossus, be my guest.

[B]

That's what I say. Some of y' all want Batman's powers.

[A]

What? Batman power. It's just money. He got the powers.

[C]

He was gonna be a prostitute.

[A]

Buy a yellow belt, you can do it.

[E]

That's what he's saying. My man waiting.

[C]

I actually already have his powers. Turns out, right, his powers is just white privilege.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

Oh, that was good.

[D]

That was good.

[A]

I don't even have to fuck.

[E]

That was good.

[A]

That was good. That was.

[D]

That was.

[C]

That was a good one.

[A]

Oh, I can't name. I'll get mine out of the way. Just. Just. Cuz I just said it. I'll go Jean Grey, because she'll kill all y' all if she get really mad. And honorable mention. I'll say Rogue just. Cause I always wanted to pop Rogue.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Storm, I wanted to pop, too.

[E]

I think you said all the girls, you weirdo.

[A]

No, no, just Rogue and Storm and Jean Grey 3. I didn't want to pop Jean Grey. I just want her power.

[E]

But you had to pop her in order to get a power.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

If I say Catwoman, can it be the Anne Hathaway version?

[A]

You such a Cali Berry version.

[E]

Cat.

[B]

Catwoman.

[C]

I just want.

[E]

I say Mystique.

[D]

That's what I was thinking.

[E]

But yeah, Mystique.

[D]

I'm going.

[B]

I don't know that one.

[A]

The blue one. She always been sexy.

[D]

See, the Sue Storm, she'll kill y', all, though.

[C]

Which one was Scarlett Johansson?

[D]

Scarlett Joe was, I think, Black Widow.

[C]

That's the one.

[A]

So we just want to. All the girl superheroes.

[E]

But it sounds like Wonder Woman.

[D]

Wonder Woman, Yeah. Wonder Woman. Yeah.

[C]

Mark wouldn't put.

[A]

Yes you know me well.

[E]

Yes, he would. I just wouldn't tell.

[A]

Yes, he would. I don't know who you fooling. What was Wonder Woman?

[E]

Power, superpowers. She like super straight.

[C]

She was like Superman.

[A]

Well, she just knew he man, right?

[E]

No, Amazon Superman.

[B]

She ra. Had sh.

[A]

I'm talking about the Shira. Wonder Woman was Superman sister or some shit, right?

[E]

No, who was Wonder Woman?

[A]

Woman?

[C]

I thought it was Superman's girl.

[D]

Yeah, she was like that.

[C]

Oh, no, that's low sleep.

[D]

She was an Amazon warrior princess.

[E]

Amazonian.

[A]

But her power was. She was cool with Superman or somebody.

[E]

Yeah, that's not how power.

[A]

Yes, it was.

[E]

She had strength. And then she had.

[A]

The last strength was calling somebody.

[B]

No, it was not.

[E]

That's lo.

[B]

Sl.

[E]

Dog.

[A]

I used to watch these shows.

[E]

You can't tell I did.

[A]

My memory is bad. Wonder Woman had a cartoon by minute, by minute. 19. She was getting up in every episode until she managed to press a button. And then it's he man or somebody will come save pack her the up.

[B]

What?

[A]

Wonder Woman?

[E]

Are you crazy?

[A]

Wonder Woman wasn't about nothing, man.

[B]

What was the Aquaman's. Was it mirror? Who? Who was Aquaman's woman?

[A]

Don't you paint that.

[D]

Dc?

[A]

Yeah, this guy.

[B]

Oh, fuck y', all then.

[A]

Dc, though.

[E]

Wonder Woman powers is super street. Strength, speed, stamina, durability, senses agility and reflexes. Watch your mouth, bitch.

[B]

Basically, he man, Bullet, Superman.

[A]

So that means she's strong for a woman.

[C]

I think that's a good time.

[A]

But I'm joking, though.

[B]

It's time.

[E]

You know what time is?

[D]

It's time.

[A]

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[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

Yeah, they said soccer.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Gotta be careful, bro. It's football. It's football. Hey, when they in town.

[C]

Football.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah, they shit.

[A]

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[C]

Okay?

[A]

And if you see something out there that says Caitlin Clark will take a knee to the face, then I'd put something on that too. They are giving my girl. I have a rant about that. That's what I'm a hard time.

[B]

That's my white woman thing on the board.

[A]

They are beating the brakes off.

[E]

If you don't turn up, you don't turn up.

[A]

And they didn't put her in the little promo ad thing that they did. They didn't put. Do you know about that? Yeah, they better be careful with that white lady. Anyway, download the app right this very second and please, pretty please, please, I beg, please. Yo, I swear on everything, Please use promo code JBP to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 line on only on prize picks. The official partner of the NBA.

[C]

Indeed.

[B]

Since we just talked about wnba. I do have my. I need. There's two white women I need to cape for today.

[A]

That's exactly what we need right this second. Get a mark.

[E]

White pie.

[A]

White pie

[B]

first.

[E]

He stopped the itch when you say that.

[B]

Look, all right.

[A]

Knife wonders listening.

[B]

No, this Caitlin Clark is crazy, man. It's absolutely wild, man. First of all, I don't. I'm balanced on the Caitlin Clark issue. I am very balanced on the Caitlin Clark issue because I think there's two extremes. There's people who worship her and they often are the white power people. Some of them, they watch WNBA and they fuck with her. You know what I mean?

[E]

Just cause.

[B]

And then there's people who hate her irrationally.

[E]

Got it.

[B]

I think you can have a balanced, fair opinion on her, which is she is an asshole. She is obnoxious. She does complain to the refs too much. She does whine, she does trash talk. But I'm cool with that. There's plenty of players who do that. But that, that foul she took where they not only fouled her heart, but then she took the. The. I mean, you see a fist in the face. Now, some of that is AI. And they added the smile and all that, but the actual hard ass foul was crazy. The league eventually made it. Made it a flagrant two and suspended. Was it Alyssa? Was it Lissa? No, no, no, no, no. But, but yeah, it's.

[C]

Oh, that was just a little. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, but it's the fact that they ain't call it. I don't have A problem with hard foul. Somebody who talks shit, who's obnoxious, but just call it. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Just our hand just slipped down there.

[B]

Yeah, just shoulder. I don't think. I don't agree that it's. That they hate straight women. I don't think it's. They hate white women and they're doing it the all. That is too extreme. It's just. She's the face of the league. They gotta do better with that. This year, the WNBA is doing so well. I mean, you got people. Angel Reese hitting records. You got Olivia Miles coming out the gate smoking. I mean, there's a lot of dope shit happening in the wnba, but if they don't manage the superstar shit too much, it's just gonna go too crazy. That shit with the. With Caitlyn and her not being on the AD. The WNBA 30th AD, that's actually not the league's fault. She has a licensing deal where they won't lend her license out. Her likeness out. That's why she's not on it. That's why Sue Bird's not on it. And that's why there's another. Taurasi's not on it. Dan Tarasi's not on there, so. But it started on the Internet as a. They're keeping all the white people off the. Off the WNBA list. Or they're keeping all the, you know, all the people that we like off the list. It's actually not that. But that's the problem when you make one. When they're irresponsible in one way, it opens the door for fans to start making up conspiracy theories about. About what's going on in the league. And just real quick, one more. One more white woman I need a cape for.

[A]

Go ahead, have at it.

[B]

Becky Hammond. Enough on Becky. It's like

[E]

we.

[B]

Look, she said that Jalen Brunson, who y' all have heard of, I think, wasn't a one A guy and that they weren't gonna win a championship because little guys don't win championships. As the 1AMm. Was it a wrong take? Yeah, it was wrong. Cause they won't. Was it a bad take? I would say no, it's just a wrong take. You know what I mean? Like three people have done it ever. Steph, Isaiah and her. Right. But whatever. Sports are filled with wrong takes and bad takes. We give bad takes up here all day, every day for sure.

[D]

And people remind us of our bad takes every time we give them.

[B]

Yes. And when you give A bad take. You should be like, you know what? That was a bad take. Or, I was wrong, I fucked up. But with Becky, I hate that her name is Becky because it sounds like extra caping because her name is Becky. Only Karen would be worse. But it's like.

[A]

And it's like 15 minutes long.

[B]

This is it. This is it right here.

[A]

This is a long cape.

[B]

It's just like, yo, don't ask for an apology. Like, it's one thing to say, like, say you wrong. But people like, we want her to apologize. We want her to have, like, get on the microphone and apologize. I don't think you should have to apologize. And when you look at all the people that said the same shit in the league, nobody's being asked for an apology. But Becky Hammond, I don't think it's cause she's white. I think it's cause she's a woman, personally. But I think. I think it's too much. Leave that shit alone. Just let people give bad takes and own it. You know what I mean? Ban her own press conference for her team. Come on, man. It's too much.

[A]

Well, I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news to you, white girl rant bubble. But, I mean, she already apologized.

[B]

No, she didn't apologize. She said, I'm not gonna apologize. What she said is. No, no, no. She said I was wrong. I was wrong. My opinion was wrong. Okay, guys. And then later in the press conference, they said, but will you apologize? And she said, no, I'm not gonna apologize for my take. We're in the take giving business business.

[A]

Oh, well, the I was wrong was enough.

[B]

That's because you're a normal, rational person.

[A]

We did it.

[B]

We did it.

[A]

No, but she gave us what we needed. I was wrong. My take was wrong. My opinion was wrong.

[D]

A lot of people was not enough.

[B]

That's my point. People still. She still refused to apologize. She said she was wrong, but she wouldn't apologize for. I'm like, that's crazy.

[D]

I don't need nothing else from her.

[B]

Yeah, you're normal. You said the normal, rational. That I would say, like, yeah, say you wrong.

[A]

When Mark started twitching is for real.

[E]

Yeah, man.

[A]

I don't know if y' all picked up.

[B]

White women got it too hard out here, man.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

White women got it too hard. We can't be doing this to them. Adding more to the pile is.

[A]

Is there anything in music that needs our attention?

[C]

We got a new TI Album. We had him up here, friend of the show, friend of the show we

[D]

did Kill the King is finally Kill the King.

[C]

And it's fire. I like most of it. There's a little section in the middle that I don't really love.

[D]

It'll my favorite.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

What happened in the middle?

[C]

It just felt to me like kind of like throwbackish.

[D]

That's. That's what I like. Yeah, that's what I like.

[C]

I can see why I like.

[D]

I like throwback TI Yeah.

[A]

Did it sound like that was intentional? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would. I would assume so.

[B]

Yeah. It didn't sound dated. It just sounded like old. Like old TI Classic. TI Rather not old classic.

[A]

That T Pain is hard.

[D]

I was just. That's my favorite.

[A]

And I could see how anybody here in T Pain would think this takes me back to an era. Era.

[D]

And Jeezy. Two chains in there, they all on the same record. So, yeah, this is an era song.

[A]

I think that's.

[D]

They did it right.

[A]

But I think that's back.

[C]

It is a little bit.

[A]

I think that's back a little bit. That's part of why this Pretty Ricky is so like. It's an error in his back.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I ain't mad at his ass off on his album.

[C]

Yeah, he is. He's killing. He's killing. The odds might be back. It might be like, you know, we went through the 90s, went through the 80s, went through the 70s. 70s.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The arts time.

[A]

And I mean, listen, the older acts touring, getting all this money, the older fan bases are alive and kicking and screaming and letting you know that they still got money to support.

[D]

They're the main ones. Now, the way ticket prices is, it's the older fan bases who got the money that can actually go to these shows. Yeah, like, this shit is up out here in terms of shows and some

[A]

of the older artists that you can call eight and a half times out of 10, they're going to be a better artist than whatever new artist you can call. Like, I was happy to hear T Pain. I'm like, hey, this feels good again. Why don't call T Pain? He can still do a hook. It's like riding a bike in a heartbeat. Yeah, I still want to hear that.

[E]

Can we get some of it?

[A]

Shout out to T.I. yeah, we get it.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What you want to hear?

[A]

Play the Pain record. Play the Pain record.

[C]

Got you. Got you.

[A]

Play the Pain record.

[D]

What is it dope?

[A]

Yeah. TI TI Delivered, man. Dope.

[D]

Boys Academy.

[E]

Me and my.

[D]

And everybody do what they supposed to do.

[A]

Tyson and got it for lower Prices crim shout I could beat the store pregnant now we need some boiling water

[E]

and some baking soda and a cup of J.

[B]

We get.

[A]

Oh, I love that in the back. I love a rich porter Shout out they was alive now we take no, let. Let that go. Let her go. Let that go Let that go Let that go.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Hey, what's going on out there?

[D]

Talk to them young.

[A]

Bags in the steel gas stove on here and when it lock up it turn the rubber band money over here.

[D]

Program. Anybody want to build a snow.

[A]

Wait a minute.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Drop that drum out now. Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go Let it go, Let it go.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's my last Friday out.

[E]

We imagine it ass right here.

[A]

Let's go, James. Let's go, James.

[E]

$50 slap I made 120 Alpha. That was way before I was sipping concert.

[A]

Turned that to a rose. All right, all right, all right.

[C]

I don't feel right Cut chains off.

[A]

But we love chain chains know God damn.

[D]

That should take you back right there.

[C]

Yeah, it do. It do.

[D]

That's it.

[A]

I always appreciate when the feature artists like, it's TI's album, but you called T Pain. You know the hook is gonna be where it need to be. You called Jeezy and 2 Chainz. I always give a little more props when the featured artist goes first in that scenario.

[D]

I'm just setting this up like the

[A]

placement on that song was done the way if you had all them features. Yeah. Ti first, Jeezy in the middle. Keep me live. And 2 Chainz is a finisher.

[D]

Yep. Clean up.

[A]

He's a finisher. That was hard. Anyway, new TI album in stores right this very second. In your phone right this very second across DSPs right at this very every second. Shout out to TI.

[D]

And it's a lot of other on there, too.

[A]

So, yeah, joints on this.

[D]

It's joints on this album.

[A]

It's a really good album. Benny put something out, right, Benny? Yeah.

[C]

Plugs I met.

[A]

2.5 plugs I met. Okay. Anybody heard it? Anybody heard it?

[C]

I did. And I hate to dwell but rise

[E]

and fall let's go piggity my man

[B]

got busy it just might cause some

[A]

destruction behind the line.

[E]

Reggie Miller shoot from long at the

[A]

bucket his butcher I'm like the dealer pull your car when you bluffing Okay.

[D]

I bought a crib and then it burned down Illuminati after me from all them deals that I turned down My

[B]

first Meal was like my first style,

[D]

but cooking was my first skill.

[A]

My chains moving like a first down, let's go.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Hold up.

[D]

That was hard.

[C]

Hold up.

[E]

Hey, yo.

[D]

Certain parts of the game that we gotta accept even if we don't want to.

[A]

Now I'm saying, oh, pain.

[D]

Hey, y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

I was inside of the slammer then I met a guy who had cancer that provided me answers he said, make retirement plans first.

[A]

Don't just work for the day, Work

[D]

for the days you can't work. My hands hurt from feeding the wrong goons I got bite marks from flinging his dog food Millionaires, this killer's dead make sure the silver wears the long spoon you burying bread, you bury misleading you won't see that the weight you're carrying dead and these hoes are scary I said I seen them the whole city move out and marry celebs

[E]

I

[D]

was bringing live to the town when y' all was getting airy from dreads, got rich from various meds told Harry give me a beat all the rappers

[A]

in the area fled. I know that feeling, man.

[C]

He can speak. He can speak. That's all I'm saying.

[D]

Of course, nobody ever said he.

[C]

He can't talk.

[A]

No. Park changed my tune up a little bit. Yeah, yeah, he changed my talk. No, no, no, no. I was kind of saying that a little bit. You said he can't talk to J. To Kiss. Yeah.

[D]

Shut the fuck. Yeah, I was saying he could always talk. If I got you on the record, I could talk. He got kissed on the record before.

[A]

I disagree with that. I don't agree with that. I think that's something that they made up on Hip Hop dx, that was like, something that was birthed from, like, boxed in, where if somebody got you on a feature they could talk to. Nah, nigga, It's a bad day in the office, okay? Or somebody changed their verse or redid they verse, or somebody came back, added some verses. I get it. Fans don't never know nothing about that. So the finished product is the finished product. But if you got a rapper on one song, I do not think that you have the right to talk to that rapper any type of way. That's me.

[E]

When you mean God, that's mean that he had the better version. Okay, Okay. I just want to be on the same page. And he. And on the record, he had the better version.

[A]

Kiss, you saying that he's that motherfucker,

[E]

and everybody's saying that.

[D]

It's consensus.

[A]

That's like the spur. And again, I get I get it. That my thinking is musician, rapper, mc. Thinking like that's like the spurs pissing off the Knicks. It's like, okay, you had the better verse. I feel like I got the better fab. Many a times we had the same song. I wouldn't say that to him. I never say nothing like that to him. Why make a man? Why make a man? So that the next time I come in here, you go out of your way to deliver the best verse you've ever written. I don't want that on my conscience.

[E]

But you also gave a resume.

[A]

30 from what I just heard. If you are gonna do that, which does. Every time you rap, you can say. You can say whatever you want. To who?

[D]

To whoever you want.

[A]

But that's asking a lot of yourself. That verse was phenomenal.

[D]

Let me ask you a question.

[A]

I got bites on my hands.

[D]

Think back. You know you got the list. Remember the list? Like certain names, you wanted to. You wanted to take their heads off on the verse, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

All right. If you get one of them, get on a record.

[B]

Record.

[D]

Take his head off. Pause. I can talk. Kiss might be on specialist lists of people where I want to take his head off.

[A]

No, but you just.

[D]

He might be. I'm not. I'm not comparing catalog discography. I'm not doing none of that. I'm talking about pen to paper.

[A]

You may be right.

[D]

I want to get.

[C]

I think it's rap from someone that still values rap.

[A]

If he gonna do that, he can get kissed.

[C]

Send him that Big, big Daddy can't be. That's all I'm saying, man. Let him. Let him get that beat, man.

[A]

No, get. Y' all get out of here.

[D]

I don't like that.

[A]

I wouldn't do that.

[D]

I wouldn't.

[A]

Especially after I heard that verse. I'm so phony.

[C]

A little bit, yeah.

[E]

But you just made an excuse. You just said that some people go back in the lab.

[A]

And that just means, listen. Ice is right. Parks is right. That happens. This. Oh, yeah, we're recording. Ice is right. Parks is right.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Be clear that what I'm saying is from my lived experience.

[B]

I understand what you're saying.

[A]

My studio experience and my. I have a different reverence for the top 25 rappers of all time. And I guess I had to learn that because I talk shit about every one of them on that list before you did. Cause I came in the game with the wrong understanding. I thought it was we rappers and we competing. But no, this is business and lifestyles and livelihoods. So when you understand that? Then why would you want to fucking kick somebody and say they whack and you trash and I could kill you. You might be taking food or somebody

[D]

playing, but some of these niggas still walk around with that killer mentality of, like I said, they got a list. I want to get this nigga. I want to get him. Oh, boy, I'm not going to. You know who I'm talking about?

[A]

Of course I do.

[D]

I let him live if you got him. But if you got on a record with him and you've been, I want that one one. Now y' all on the track. You destroy this. Now, you might talk a little different.

[A]

I rap better than him. Anytime I wake up.

[D]

That's not.

[A]

I rap better than that. That person in my sleep talking about that my mouth was mutilated.

[E]

Paul.

[A]

If some type of way my I

[D]

get him started

[A]

come out with mutilated.

[B]

That was crazy. That was crazy. I was going to let you live, but that was crazy.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

I know what you're saying, though, man.

[C]

I'm just saying. Kane, send him the verse. Send him the verse, send him the beat.

[A]

Kane ate on that. Kane absolutely tore that up. But I would expect nothing less.

[C]

Word.

[A]

And I ain't heard of Pete from Max B since now.

[D]

They squashed that. Yeah, so they squashed that.

[E]

Brooklyn Chop House.

[D]

Brooklyn Chop House.

[A]

They squashed that don't matter. It don't matter.

[D]

Max.

[A]

That's something else that hip hop DX and them came up with, squashing it. All right, cool.

[D]

Still. Still going.

[A]

Still next time I go, what the do that mean? I come from the era of watching game hug 50 at the school in Harlem up there. Not even Harlem. That was just upper Manhattan, whatever that was. And all of that was. Oh, they squashed it. They. It's officially. It's good to see black music squashed day. I watched that shit lately. Yeah.

[E]

I said, I want. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[A]

No such thing as a squash. Hey, we all watch J. Prince take Drake and Kanye and make them take a picture together. Nobody watching it. Said, you know what? This is squashed.

[D]

Now do a whole show together.

[A]

Oh, I forgot about that.

[D]

Yeah, a whole show.

[A]

That's another type of power to have. Man shout out to J. Prince. Yeah, yo.

[C]

He was like, holding their hands up.

[E]

Yeah, we brought them together.

[A]

Oh, God. He was like, yo, my man, I got somebody in jail. He's doing life, about to come home soon. I need y' all two to get together. Do your biggest hits.

[C]

But Jay, we don't like each other.

[E]

Don't matter.

[D]

I didn't ask you.

[E]

You know what time it is. You know what I did for you

[A]

when homie called from jail and put you on a mission? You kind of got to do it. Yeah, I got to play my man who be doing the. The jail calls. This the same dude that do the other one that did when your man showing out in front of the. In front of the bad joints. This is. This is him about when your man called from jail.

[D]

Rise and grind, gangster. Glad I caught you.

[A]

Check it.

[D]

I need you to do me a solid tomorrow. Is that Knicks parade. My sister Rhonda and her daughter l. Daphne. They big Knicks fans, know what I mean? And they trying to get a good spot at that parade, like in the front row so they can see Bronson and them. What I' ma need you to do is go out there tonight at 4:30am gonna be waiting for you. Cause you gotta pass off a kite that I gotta get to my sister Rhonda. So you won't get the kite from my man. And he gonna give you the spot shot. And you stay there from 4.30am to the float. Come around at around 10am by that time, my sister Rhonda and her daughter, you heard. It might be a little bit late, but I need you to hold that spot down. Get an autograph from Brunson and all. Don't that up for me, my J. Now, the last thing I need is that Jada Kiss is supposed to perform on the float.

[A]

You heard, back in 2006.

[D]

Now, I mean, the Kiss signed me to a single D he owe me 8,000.

[B]

That little body out in Maryland.

[A]

Pick that up, big dog.

[D]

You get that that to my little piece out of Kurt Campbell.

[A]

Oh, y know, I'm crying.

[C]

That is hilarious.

[D]

That's funny, son.

[A]

I'm absolutely crying. Anyway, I say that to say the beef ain't never squashed, man. Shout out to laughs. That n funny.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Oh, music, music, music, music. All right, we did Ben. Hold up now. Hold up now.

[E]

Hold up.

[A]

Wait a minute. So these past few weeks, I have been waiting anxiously by my phone for K1's project to draw. And I kept getting the date wrong. So at least for three Fridays I would sit wait for this shit. And it never came paused. Last night it finally came out for the K1 fans out there. What a fucking K1 album, man. Wow. If this ain't the most K1 is album that she could possibly do. This sound like A young lady. That is all the young ladies spinning them around. I'm gonna play a couple joints. This right here is track three. Just so you see how she on it. This is my record with the saxophone. Yeah. This one with the saxophone. We let this go. This is called Rather never love Again.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Bring that sex in. I'm a better me now. Make sure that I'm better than I was. I let all my ego get me down oh, I don't practice what you

[B]

preach,

[A]

baby, as you should you bad enough and now you all out of my reach and even if I get

[B]

his back I don't know if you

[A]

won't be the same

[B]

But I wish your lifetime taking all the blame all the.

[A]

So just so y' all understand what I'm saying, I'mma read y' all the. The track. The track names.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Track one is called All Fours, featuring Dustin Conrad. Then it's good girl. Rather never love again, Touch myself. Track five is called Till the room Stinks with Todd Dollar's sign.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it means what it sounds like.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

6 is risk it all. 7 is till you cry. 8 is hopeless romantic idea love. 10 is better on my own and 11 is heavens in your hands. This little get a lot of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wait a minute. Where's the Nelly flip? Risk it all. Risk it all. Risk it all.

[D]

All.

[A]

You put your foot in this project. Let me buy you a drink. I don't care what it cost. All of this is brand new. K1. It's on her album. It's in your phone right this very second. Shout out to K1. This shit is amazing. I can't wait to hear this in the car. But that album is called. And all pride aside, I'm telling you, these R and B projects that are nice and concise, a nice 28, 35 minutes that chronicle the whole breakup. Like RJ the weirdo project is one of the hardest projects out to me because each song is walking you through the whole downfall of the relationship. It's fire.

[B]

Anyway, there's an album that we kind of didn't touch on. Apparently nobody did. I'm talking about Lizzo's album.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Big Lizzo. Almost friend of the show. Almost friend of the show.

[B]

Not so big Lizzo now. And I think that might be part of the problem.

[A]

Lizzo looks great.

[B]

Yeah, she looks amazing. Nothing wrong with being big. But two weeks ago, she put out a record album. I mean, this is one of the biggest pop stars in. In the world, certainly in the U.S. you know, at one point, yeah. Album first week, 2600 or something. 2,650 sales. Second week, dropped to 600. That's low for anybody. And I've been sitting here trying to figure out the why of it. First, let me just say the album itself isn't her best work. To me, in fact, I would say it's her worst album.

[C]

I skimmed through it. It wasn't very good.

[A]

I haven't heard.

[B]

It's trying to be too many things. It started off as one project and became this album bitch. It's trying to do too many things. It's experimental in a lot of ways. There's some punk on there. There's some pop on there. There's some R and B, but like, 70s stuff. There's. It goes in a lot of directions, and I don't think it does any of the things well enough to be that thing. And it's spread too thin. So I think it's not a good album. But even with a bad album, you should be able to sell more than 3,000 if you.

[A]

Lizzo.

[B]

And over two weeks, to me, just. It's just crazy. It's the part what I was trying to figure out with y' all is the why of it.

[D]

Well, who knew this album was coming out?

[B]

Which is her complaint. She's saying the label didn't push it. There's no promotion for it. Nobody knew this thing was coming out.

[D]

It's a single. Like, Lizzo is a radio. Yeah. A radio darling.

[A]

Like what?

[D]

It's clear there's a disconnect here between her and the label. Either the label is like, we're no longer invested in you, or we think whatever we think, but we not on the same page. Cause it's clear that they didn't put no money into this. Cause you would have heard something. You would have seen her somewhere other than the verses.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah, I didn't see her anywhere. I mean, her thing is streaming has taken over radio. And so, you know, when my career first started, I was known for radio hits. And now the radio doesn't matter anymore. And that's why no one's checking for me. I think that's like 25% true.

[A]

It's above her. I accept that answer from her. And that may even be what she thinks. It's above her. It's above that. She may believe that, but it's not.

[C]

Yeah, I don't think it's entirely true either. Radio still matters.

[A]

Radio Lizzo didn't come out in 08. That's who streaming was here when she was. When you were here and dominated.

[C]

Well established.

[A]

Yes. Again, my experience be different, so I know what it looks like. When something is label pushed and something is not label pushed. Fans have a hard time making that distinction. I don't put any of this on Lizzo. I don't put any of this on Lizzo.

[B]

I do.

[A]

Even if it was a bad album, it's not Lizzo's fault that only 2,600 people went out. This says y' all don't hear more and more album artists coming up here. Even the huge artists saying, no, I paid for this. No, I did this. No, I put this out. No, it's me, it's me. It's back to curation. The artists that are able to curate on their own or with a small group of people are going to succeed and have the backing. Like, TI Came up here. Killer Mike came up here. Niggas was like, I spent my own money. And it's a lot of money.

[B]

Money.

[A]

That was part of the problem back in the day. A new artist didn't have the money, and. And they were gatekeepers. So you couldn't get on the radio, you couldn't get on mtv. You couldn't. It was a gatekeeper everywhere. So you kind of needed them. Today, if you can kind of curate on your own, then that's what you got to get into. And we never. We didn't meet Lizzo that way. We met Lizzo as a label baby and a label darling, and she reaped the benefits of that, which is. Is prime time at the award shows. This is some awards, right? Like, Lizzo has like four or five Grammys or something like that. Performances where they need to be, commercials where they need to be, partnerships where they need to be. And some of this, I'm sure, comes from some of the press that. And I want to. I wanted to talk to her about this. Whenever she comes, she is still supposed to come.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Some of that comes from the press about that London strip club shit. Like, there were a few things.

[B]

That's the part I blame.

[A]

Then there were some comments she made. People felt like. Like she was alienating bigger people. Like, this is a culmination of things, but all of it still is the label's fault.

[D]

I would like to know what. How many albums she owed the label. Cause a lot of times, once you get to the end of that and you're not showing that you, like, you want to go your own way now

[A]

and they sing, it doesn't go out there.

[B]

And, yeah, album number five. So that could be very much.

[D]

Exactly. So it's like, all right, cool, Go out there. We not putting nothing into. Whatever you do is what you do. And then you walk. And now your stock ain't the same. And you gonna get a real. You're gonna get a real awakening out there.

[A]

Yeah. If your stock is left up to them. That's always the scary part about being signed somewhere and just your liking it because your fate is left up to somebody else. Another reason I'm a huge fan of Lizzo trying to come up here is because to me, that signified that, oh, that ain't the label. Whatever powerful people were back there, those are the people. People telling the pop stars that these are the types of platforms that you need to stay away from and not visit. I enjoyed seeing Lizzo on the verses last night because that looked like something that Lizzo got out of bed and wanted to do.

[D]

What? Yeah.

[A]

It wasn't the label saying it wasn't for the look. It wasn't that whole Laker game with the bra. It wasn't manufactured. It looks to be natural and organic. So when artists come to that fork in the road where you have to have that uncomfortable look in the mirror era, yet sometimes you got to take a step back to take steps forward. Like, don't look at that like a loss. Take your own into your own hands. Find you a team of people that get the vision or understand it and baby step your way back to success. But you don't need the label, and you don't need those types of executives holding that over your head or. Or being so in control of whether you popping or whether you not popping.

[B]

You know, Joe, that's all I got. And I agree with everything you just said. And Lizzo was saying, incredibly talented. She's phenomenally talented. I'm actually a fan, and I like her music. I didn't like this album, but I like her music. But everybody should be able to survive a bad album. And if you have a core fan base that fucks with you, you should still be able to have a respectable showing even with a bad album. So I think the label. Everything you said about the label is true. I also wonder about who her core fan base is and if it was ever exactly what we thought it was.

[A]

How was she not?

[E]

So that's what has always had control over that.

[B]

Right. And part of it is if you're building your bass off of radio hits, I mean, there's a theory that it wasn't a Core fan base as much as people who were just loving these particular radio hits.

[E]

Got it.

[B]

Okay. Then there's the crew. Then there's the fact that she kind of came in with the kind of. I don't wanna put it.

[E]

Arrogance.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I mean, I'm not even assessing her. I'm just thinking about. She had a social justice.

[E]

It was.

[B]

She was the person who it was cool to like, okay, I like the big girl.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I like all these things. Her getting smaller, unfortunately, probably didn't help her with some of that base. There are people who saw her as. I mean, she was a social justice crew's, like, poster girl. These lawsuits and the allegations don't help that crew. So I'm just saying there's a lot of moving parts. And I'm not. I don't know, I'm not blaming her for either of those necessarily. I don't know enough about the lawsuits to have an opinion on it. And if you wanna lose weight, lose weight, you should.

[D]

Right?

[B]

If that's what you wanna do. But I'm just saying, part of it is I think all that label shit is true, but I also think she may have lost her actual base over the last few years.

[C]

Offended them at least.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Well, the other part is, like you said, if you come in as a label darling, radio darling, et cetera, what is your base? That ain't your base.

[B]

That's exactly.

[D]

That base could have been manufactured from the gate.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

And now you're starting to realize because,

[A]

like, you keep talking about the radio hits and radio. I'll be honest with you, I don't know one Lizzo radio song.

[C]

Yeah, you do.

[B]

Yes, you do.

[A]

If I hear it. Yeah, if I hear it. But right now, somebody. I couldn't name one, and I don't know what it sounds like, but Lizzo was a mascot for so many different messages.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. But we don't know if that's naturally how Lizzo ever felt about nothing. And that's the thing is the back to take a step backward. Two step four. I to Yalls point that we all saying, I don't think she know her real fan base, nor do I think she was ever given a chance to cultivate it organically, because that's all the label. We got a big girl. All the labels see is how do we make a big girl pop?

[D]

Oh, give her body positivity.

[A]

There you go. There you go. Body positivity. Who's in office? Biden. All right. We supporting trans. We support. And she could I'm just saying these are all messages that were not only strong, but really easy to get behind. So we'll see. Take your fucking fate into your own hands. Take it back to the music. Do what's in your heart. You won't go wrong either way.

[E]

Sometimes when you trust on the machines and you're depending on them, it's hard to actually adjust in real time, in a moment. You don't know where to start from

[D]

or where to start at.

[A]

Yo, dawg, all the machines. All the machines are dying. Yeah, all the machines are dying.

[E]

Are they dying?

[A]

Back to that whole what did we say with Pretty Ricky? That the errors are coming back or regional shit is coming back, or time capsules is coming back. If we doing that right, then it's back to a time where damn fans might not know about this time, but we're back to the time when the labels were signing the independent act and saying, hey, you still go out there and tell them you independent and we're going to make this look organic and we'll be back here pressing. We getting back to that. And the fish are getting bigger. So the companies that are dying out there, like, last part was at a Patreon, we was talking about vans and their cultural relevance. It was like they're always culturally relevant. I was sitting here saying, well, we need to check the stock. I check the stock.

[B]

Stock's down.

[A]

So for those people, it's always a numbers thing and they're trying to do workarounds. Spotify going through, Apple going through, Amazon going through every big company, Netflix is going. Every big company you could think of is going through shit. And they're all fighting through it right this second. So this is a shifting, this is a transformative. We about to be in 2027. Saying that out loud even sounds crazy. Yeah, but that means that big companies, 5 and 10 year is only a few companies that's kicking ass. I ain't gonna name them. Some of them should call me. But it's only a few of them. It's only a few of them.

[E]

I know.

[A]

And I ain't gonna get on the long run. Yeah, you know some of them. I know a couple of of them. Like, we'll talk later. This pod ain't for like real. Go ahead.

[E]

No, no, no, cuz you moved on from the subject, cuz you said the company is.

[A]

I kill it on the close out too, but I can always count on one of y'.

[E]

All.

[B]

No, no, no, no

[C]

victory.

[E]

You know, we try to. Some come on the back end I try to clean. You know, hey, okay. All right.

[A]

What else is important to any of you in music?

[D]

Any.

[A]

Anyway, I don't care.

[D]

We finally got that Glorilla Blue Shiesty record, which was important to me because there was a lot of talk about

[A]

some other Blue Shiesty shit that was interesting. This is the bridge.

[C]

This is the bridge.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Exactly. But no, this record in particular was, you know, with the allegations and allegedly what happened between him and Gucci Mane, part of it. This record came up a lot because it was. Once he had secured the release on video, which we'll talk about. Yes, they sent that over in order to get this record able to drop and saying I can now sign with cmg. We can drop this record, which was then blocked because, no, you're not a free agent like you thought you were. But the song did come out. It's called Main. And I ain't gonna lie, don't lie, don't lie. Pooh Shisty Person's hard as fuck, bro. Like, he went. He went the fuck off. You got a little bit.

[C]

Yeah, he.

[D]

He absolutely went off. Nice followup.

[A]

I need a word for if I'm a bird. I need a word for this, cuz I'm a bird. Y' all know when a bird record. Oh, look at Joe being a bird. Joe bird thing. I need a word for this.

[D]

Fan.

[A]

No, no. Need a more fun word than fan.

[D]

I wanted to hear this because, you know, both of them being from Memphis, I. With both their music. So I always wanted what it was.

[E]

It's important to you.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

You gave it, you giving it. That's not the same thing. And that kill don't make you gangster. I know snitching with body. See, them niggas has my juice.

[B]

I was a full pain.

[E]

You ain't made no name in all

[A]

this time, you gonna die lame.

[E]

I've been GG since elementary.

[A]

My city, I ain't wanna sell my gang now it's a household name who

[E]

run Memphis Brick Gang?

[A]

I got rich on gunsling Body drop, they get the name and me and them smash. I mean, I see what you mean. It's hard. He talking. He living it too, though.

[D]

I mean, what you want.

[A]

You want me to say, You know, he never met a 16 or 24.

[E]

He don't do that.

[D]

He don't.

[A]

He don't do none of that.

[E]

He's nice,

[A]

unfortunately. That's great. That sounds great. Like, that's a great song, but. But. However, I ain't saying no.

[C]

However, it's Gonna be hard to promote.

[A]

It's not a however. It's a. It's a. It's a. It's.

[D]

It's a.

[A]

Unfortunately, it's not. It's not a however. That's hard. It should be hard. This nigga's out doing all this shit that he's saying. So when he come on to open it. Verse. Yo, for me, the opening line to a verse was super important. It's probably the line you spent the most time on the opener and the closer. Not for him. The very first line is just, yo, this poking out my T shirt. The Draco too big. You don't say. Nothing to think about there.

[D]

He just looked down.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. Draco Boo Shiesty is. I love him as a rapper.

[D]

Me too. That's it.

[A]

But I don't love why I love him as a rapper.

[E]

Cuz he's living. He's living what he's.

[A]

And I wish he would stop. I'm petrified.

[B]

You about to.

[A]

I wish he would stop.

[D]

Go ahead.

[B]

You had the report.

[C]

You are.

[D]

I knew y' all was going.

[E]

Shout to Pooh. Shy man.

[B]

Shout out to Pooh.

[A]

So yeah, here they come. Whoa, here they come. It's the street apologist. Whoa, here they come. It's the street. Apologies about you.

[E]

You run around when they going through the rap beef and saying how you miss this and miss that. You always do that. You be flip floppy. And then now somebody and I don't co sign what he's doing. Now somebody actually living what they say, which is bullshit. Then when say I like that or I like him. Oh, we a street apologist, nigga. Pick a fucking side, bro. What side are you on, yo?

[B]

I mean, let me say this.

[A]

No, Ah, I know what he said.

[E]

I got all the receipts of what he say. They put.

[A]

You definitely know what side they put it on.

[E]

Reddit, how he flip flopped. This nigga play double Dutch when it comes to.

[B]

I don't see the flip flop.

[E]

The flip flop is saying that when somebody's beefing, yo, go out there, do something. You just talking. Go out there. I like when my. The beef is real. That's what he says. He said it on here. Then when are saying something. Oh, you're a street apologist. You cause a lot of confusion.

[B]

It's a solid point, Flip, sir.

[A]

Fair point. Let me. Let me clarify. Let me clarify the record. I never want any of these niggas to do any of the shit that they're doing. And if I ever come on my platform and say otherwise. I'm trying to be funny. Sometimes it lands, sometimes it don't. But I don't want nobody to go out there and kill people, Shoot at people, stab people, kidnap in public places. Kidnapped.

[B]

Definitely not videotape.

[A]

Change your own contract. Bring a hundred certies to the studio.

[D]

Only six.

[E]

Would you have niggas kidnapped if you had a chance to. To get out your shit?

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

I get a lawyer.

[A]

Not now.

[E]

Not now.

[A]

Not never. No, no.

[E]

Now.

[A]

Be. Be very clear. I am not a criminal. I have never wanted to be a criminal. And I don't condone other people being criminals in my studio. I don't.

[D]

That's me.

[A]

And I'm fly with some pretty fly criminals. I'm flying with some of the fly. Guess what? If I. If I had to make the same. Yeah, that's not. I respect their decision.

[D]

They tougher than me, and they respect me because y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

I'm not with y'. All. With.

[B]

They got it.

[D]

Y' all got it.

[A]

I'm real good at establishing who's tougher than me.

[D]

Y' all got it.

[A]

I can't do none of that shit.

[E]

You got it. Okay.

[A]

I make a way better bologna sandwich than they served in jail. That time I went. Time I went was budget cutbacks. No mustard. One thing of mayonnaise. You had to fight another nigga for extra mayonnaise. I don't want to live. I don't want to live like that. I like shoelaces. I like sweats, but I like to pick my own sweatshirt.

[C]

Yeah, good sweats.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like getting up when I want, you know?

[A]

I like windows, space. I like coochie sunlight. That's the most important thing.

[D]

Gucci is amazing.

[A]

I like. And most importantly, I don't like. And this has just never changed. I never have liked anybody telling me what to do.

[D]

That part.

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

I tell nigga, I gotta take a shit. He say, no.

[D]

Nah, you can't take a shit here.

[A]

You talking about. No, no, for real. They took a little longer to bail me out. My first time in Hudson county, so I had to go to General Pop.

[C]

Sorry that's what happened to you.

[A]

It was a sad walk. It wasn't an ill walking. They wasn't like, oh, how old were you? 20. Call it 25.

[D]

Oh, this post pump it up.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, no. Every time I ever went to jail, it was post pump it up.

[B]

That's part of the problem, right?

[C]

He's trying to live his rap.

[A]

So anyway, I go in there, and at some point, Cause I was in there for maybe two or three days, but at some point I had to take a shit. And the nigga I was in there with said that that toilet is not for usage for shits.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He was serious.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So what you do?

[A]

Hell much

[B]

salute is that?

[A]

No, no. But don't get it up. I was in jail with privilege. I'm a cling clang on this thing and they gonna bring me to somewhere I can. I don't have to go through this with you. So that's what I did. Hey, it took a little while. It took a while. They don't just come right away. That's the other reason I ain't gonna go to jail. I like expedience. Customer service. They just got to me whenever they felt like it.

[D]

Nope.

[B]

So you don't want to be told what to do. You don't want to live around a lot of people. People you want to have. Be able to do when you want

[C]

to do it specifically. I like when I want to. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

You should live alone.

[D]

Oh,

[B]

I mean, it's a good thing you do. It's a good. It's a good thing you live alone.

[A]

Yo. That's a good one, sir.

[D]

That's a good one. This guy's crazy. This evil, bro.

[A]

Oh, my God. I got a trick for. Oh, hold up a second.

[D]

No, you don't. No, you don't.

[C]

No, you don't.

[A]

You don't have no tricks, bro. I got a trick for our girl.

[D]

That whole bag of tricks is out the window.

[B]

I put that earlier.

[A]

My last Friday of freedom, boy. I can't wait. I'm going out to cheat. Of course, I'm not so stupid, but I feel like this is when you shoot good. Anyway, I love you, baby. And I look forward to. I look forward to our new forever. What they talking about?

[D]

We look forward to it too, actually. Seeing how tell you the truth, we can't wait.

[A]

I can't wait.

[B]

Cannot wait.

[A]

I cannot wait.

[B]

Get us to episode 1100.

[A]

Nothing makes me happier. So many shows we about to watch together. What did you. I will kill you. Or they made I will find. Oh, yeah.

[C]

I will find.

[E]

I will, will find you.

[C]

Episode one was dope.

[B]

And you got time to unpack, Stu,

[A]

I want to see it. But we saved it, cuz. She will be here shortly.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

She will be here shortly.

[B]

Big Paul and also Joe. All those conversations get cut short when somebody got to go to the airport or go do something else. At least now you can unpack all of it.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

You can.

[C]

Communication is.

[B]

You can really communicate. You can n. You ain't seen communication facts.

[D]

That is.

[A]

No, you ain't lying now that she moving up is. I'm starting to listen to her more. Man.

[E]

She ain't.

[A]

You ain't seen you a talking

[D]

now the random. Random thoughts that.

[B]

That you know.

[D]

And I just. I just wanted to bring this to your now they right there and she

[A]

telling me about it. Yeah. No, seriously, this is a boy.

[D]

I can't wait.

[A]

Yo, the things that as a man, you leave the house and go out there and experience and then you come back. The things you experience in your day. Like as a dude, you can't listen to your girl talk about the stresses of her day. Yo, honestly, I'm about to throw a phone at this lady.

[B]

So you didn't finish your Pooh Shiesty thought.

[D]

Oh, no, that's true.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's get back to Pooh Shiesty.

[A]

Would you believe somebody got smart with me at Starbucks?

[E]

Your.

[B]

I tried to save you.

[A]

Would you believe they made my cafe look. But it. They didn't put enough caramel. I almost pulled back around, but then the car. Oh, my God.

[D]

He like, what.

[C]

I'm sorry you went through that. God.

[D]

Yo, that don't work. It does something that does not. That make it worse. I love it when you say that. I tried that.

[A]

That.

[D]

That wasn't good.

[A]

Anyway, what else.

[D]

Yeah, so now it's come out that apparently one of his co defendants allegedly recorded the whole thing on his cell phone. And they got the video and screenshots and all of this. So you recorded a robbery and kidnapping on your cell phone.

[C]

That's a good idea.

[D]

It was a great idea. Like, that's. That's the other reason why I don't fuck with criminals like that. Cause they just dumb.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. Like, they do the crime with their phone in their pocket.

[C]

It.

[A]

No, no, record it.

[D]

Phone out and record it.

[C]

Meta meta. Ray bands

[D]

like y' all don't think none of this through.

[C]

None of it.

[A]

I expected more from a name. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the name will tell you what's going on with Poo Shiesty anyway. OJ Man. OJ Keep all that stupid knucklehead away from me, man. I'm trying to have a good summer.

[D]

Yeah. I just want to listen to the. I don't be nowhere around it.

[E]

That's it.

[D]

Yeah, that's. That's be clear. I. I will listen to the though

[C]

and put a platform on it. You know what I Mean, boost it up.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

What else. What else. What else do y' all want to get in our. Our divorce court? You want to have the J.

[D]

Will fight?

[B]

Let's head to Jay Will.

[A]

Let's have a J. Will debate. MAN ON at the draft the other night. At the draft the other night. Night. Richard Jefferson and J. Will were two of the analysts, and Richard Jefferson said some shit that was. I mean, I guess he thinks he was joking, but it was completely out of line, out of bounds.

[D]

Do they got any kind of smoke?

[A]

Awkward and flagrant. North Carolina, Duke smoke, maybe?

[B]

Yeah. National finals. I mean, not really.

[A]

Like. I mean, no.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

They're cool.

[A]

I know Richard Jefferson to be a. And he. He listens to the show. Shout out to him. But he's a jokester. Like, he's a comedian. He likes to play around. But on draft night, in this moment, he chose to make a joke about J. Will's motorcycle accident and how he never reached his full potential because athletes are stupid and do stupid shit like ride a bike the day after the draft and change their life forever. He said that shit. It's like a joke, and it was uncomfortable. And Jay Will is a class act. Yeah, good dude. Class act. I've auditioned shows with him before. Shout out to Jay, like, top to bottom class act. And even how he responded in the aftermath, you could tell he was pissed off and maybe wanted to look off on this, but. But it was very professional. It was very, you know, and he was just like, listen, man, some people throw my obstacles in my face, but I look at what I was able to do since then, and I feel even more accomplished with some of the hurdles that I had to get. He's just top to bottom of class act.

[B]

Great job.

[A]

What do you.

[E]

What.

[A]

What if y' all heard about this? What. What is yalls opinion on this style of joke? The timing of the joke and when jokes go too far.

[D]

Personally, for me, I need to know more. I need to know what their dynamic is. Like, if they play like that. Like, up here, we. We get some jokes off that some people watch and be like, damn, they took it there. But. But we play like that. So if. If that's. If they cool enough to do that with each other, then I'm not. I'm not all the way mad at it. I still wouldn't have done it.

[B]

Here's the thing. I mean, part of it for me is the platform.

[A]

There's no such thing as that. Cool.

[B]

I agree. I agree with that.

[A]

I think that joke is just there's no such thing as that. Cool.

[D]

I, I disagree.

[B]

Even unless you had a roast, that

[C]

sounds like something you would do off air.

[B]

Maybe that's what I was about to say. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The setting matters. Like, this is still ESPN and, and this is still all of America watching this conversation. Like, there's jokes that even I would make up here or that Joe or you or you or you will make up here that we wouldn't make if we were on a different platform because of who the audience is.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's not a.

[A]

Like if they asked us, if they asked us to fucking introduce at the Grammys and at the Grammys, one of y' all off script decided to do some pump it up, career failure joke. To me. Me, that's going to land different and have a very different effect than us joking right here.

[B]

That's why it seems like you have

[A]

to know if you, if, if you with somebody or if you don't with somebody, you have to know when a joke and the timing of the joke and the place where you saying the joke has an effect. No matter how cool J will is, he was a. What was he, the second pick?

[C]

I don't remember, but he was.

[A]

He was a top three pick. I don't remember either because my memory,

[B]

I think he was like number three.

[A]

He was him coming out. Coming out.

[B]

Yeah, he was him.

[A]

So for his entire career as an athlete to change because of that motorcycle accident. Hey, maybe you get that off if we at our house.

[C]

Maybe.

[A]

Maybe there's some way you get that off second overall. You don't get that off at a draft.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As you are watching 17, 18, 19, 20 year olds change their life.

[B]

Life.

[A]

You have to know that that man is hearkening back to that.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

They hit a little different at it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's all I.

[A]

Any, any graduation I go to.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I think of the graduation I didn't go to. It's just a natural thing.

[D]

Right, Right.

[A]

Sometimes I cry at the graduations thinking about what my graduation would have looked like.

[D]

I get it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The draft is not where you make that joke. Nah. It's too many emotions here. It's too many people here with their families. It's too many people here that come from hoods like we come to. Like we come from now. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Me and you joke like that, but you're not making a spectacle out of. Probably the most difficult thing I've ever had to Endure on national TV in front of millions with Disney support.

[D]

Fuck you.

[B]

Yeah, no, that ain't. That ain't the.

[E]

Fuck.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You dog.

[B]

I'm gonna assume Richard. I don't know Richard Jefferson. You know, only to speak.

[A]

You know he played in the finals.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know he played with Jason Kidd. You know he played with LeBron. You know, he had a long career. He used to be able to jump out the gym. He's played with goats. Has a career.

[B]

Has a career. That alone says you can't make that joke.

[A]

You can't make this joke.

[B]

I agree. I'm gonna assume the best. Right. Which is that he wasn't trying to be mean spirit. I just think he's. He just missed. I think he's made a gross miscalculation. I'm assuming the best of missed the mark. Yeah, but like, damn, he missed the

[D]

mark on that one.

[A]

Just didn't read the room.

[B]

Yeah, not.

[D]

Not.

[B]

Not at all. I mean, and that ain't even a good first swing joke. That's a joke you make when the jokes are ratcheting up and he says something to him and he say something to him and he talk about his career. He talk about his career.

[A]

I'm glad you said that because I was. I was gonna say what's funny about that is you've never seen J. Will on air try to be fucking funny. That's not his style of broadcasting.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

He don't try to make jokes.

[D]

Why he shoot at him like that then? That's what.

[B]

That's why it seems so weird to me.

[D]

Cuz if that's the case, that's like some bullying. Then if, you know he don't play like that, but you attack him in that. That with that type of a joke. Yeah, I'm just trying to belittle you or bully you right now.

[A]

I could tell you why it's happening. Probably why totally unfounded. But I can tell you anyway because there are different initiatives being spoken about up top. So I'm not. We're not just looking to hire retired athletes now. Y' all are competing with the personalities, too. Yeah, we all competing with the person. You better have a personality.

[B]

Okay, You.

[A]

It's not enough for you to go up there and rattle off some advanced stats and analytics or you watch the game where you play. Played for the Nets. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And ESPN is in that game. And you know that they in that game because fucking Shannon Sharp went there and then Cam Newton went there and then. See Y' all hearing our athletes, but they not brought there as athletes. They're brought there as personalities. And when the Shannon Sharpe goes wrong, we gonna bring Cam up here, and we're gonna bring such and such up here.

[B]

We need.

[A]

Yeah, that's a personality. Also a retired kicker for the Colts, but not so much. That's not something for that. That's a caveat. The fact that I used to rap is like a caveat. If you know, you know. But now it's such a caveat, I don't even bother telling people because there's so many more people watching that that is a personality. My job is to be up. So he was sitting there trying to bring up. I do that a lot here. I'll say something in an effort to be edgy. And if it don't land, boy, what a mistake. Or when you get home and watch it, it's like, oh, I didn't know I was coming off like that. But to do it on draft night.

[C]

Yeah, he was trying to do some Inside the NBA shit on the wrong network and platform, and I think it

[B]

would have missed there, too. I think it would have missed there, too. But you're right.

[A]

And with the wrong person.

[C]

Yeah, with the wrong person.

[B]

That's why, I admit, because he does

[A]

have that relationship with certain people where they would do that. Listen, Chad Ochocinko and Deion Sanders, when those two see each other and they do the lineup thing, ooh, I can get you.

[D]

I can get you. I can get you.

[A]

Yo, that's two fucking legends that play with each other a certain way, and nobody else in the world's gonna understand this game that we gonna play every single time we see each other. I'm sure Richard Jefferson has those relationships.

[B]

J.

[A]

Will ain't one of them.

[B]

Yeah, definitely got on.

[A]

Jay Will ain't one of them. And not on draft night.

[D]

Yeah, y' all convince me.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fucked up. I wouldn't do that to you. I wouldn't. There's no way in the world if you my real friend. I love you, nigga. I'm not gonna wait till it's all the eyes on us and say something embarrassing to you. But, nah, it's cool. We friends. So you ain't gonna take it embarrassing. That don't change the fact that 10, 15 million niggas done seen you, and now once you tag Lane, the game is ain't. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't do that. Ain't no friend of mine don't try to say some shit and disguise it under the guise of we friends. Hey, my friendships come with boundaries, nigga. Y' all go watch some of these jokes. Not even the jokes. I don't care about the jokes. But will you say a joke joke where's it's like when the come around.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, good example.

[A]

Go ahead and say the wrong joke. When the joints is around, I'm look at you as different for the rest of our life.

[D]

Totally different.

[B]

For the rest of our life.

[A]

I'm gonna look at you totally different. Yeah, Richard Jefferson was out of line, but that's my man. I see him at the Nick game, so I ain't gonna go too hard.

[B]

But. But also some jokes are just too far on the mat, even if nobody's around. Like, if we don't air. We all have boundaries and we all have. That we wouldn't say to each other. Yeah, it changes. Personally, do we? Yeah, I think so.

[A]

No, I agree.

[B]

I'm talking shit. I think so. I think we all do. I've never. I can't think of one. I mean, maybe there's one, but I can't think of one where somebody said something to me that I felt like was so far beyond the pale that I was like, yo, that's crazy. Some jokes I find funnier than others. And in general, I think we all mark our boundaries. And sometimes somebody will say something off at line and be like, yo, dawg, don't do that. No, I don't play like that. And then we mark that boundary, and then you don't do it, and that's it. You just don't do it again. But some shit is so far, you

[C]

don't have to tell me that is also live too. So that's. That's another added element.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

And you got to be extra careful on live. Like, you can't push bound here. We can say something and push the boundary and we'll stop and take it out. Yeah, there. You can't stop and take it out. It's live.

[A]

Be clear if any of y' all ever think that I came up here and pushed the boundary with any of y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

Didn't.

[E]

I didn't.

[D]

I didn't.

[A]

Seriously, it's a list of things.

[E]

You get crazier than what you. Than what you push.

[A]

I've said this before, so I don't want to be asked, but there's a list of things to. When it comes to each person, I'm

[E]

like, oh, I see what you said.

[A]

Yeah, you said That I don't play like that, and I have those things, and I wouldn't expect people to. Like, there's still a list.

[E]

Yeah, we got you.

[B]

We got you.

[A]

But I am a fan.

[D]

Just don't do it.

[A]

I am a fan of dark humor. When Mark do little molestation jokes, I laugh. No, but they wrong. His dark humor is wrong.

[B]

And that's why we don't do them anymore, public publicly. Not because I think they're too far for us. I just think it's irresponsible to the audience and for people who've actually been harmed. That's why we stopped doing it. Or at least that's why I stopped. Yeah, but if I wanted to make a joke to you off air. Yeah, we could make that. Yeah. Not that I would do that, but if I did, they wouldn't know.

[D]

Like our little Instagram page.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I send y' all most almost everything I send y' all on Instagram is wildly inappropriate.

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, but it's funny. But I wouldn't do that.

[E]

You know what mean? I mean?

[B]

Yeah. Question for you. Changing the subject.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Here we go. Caught him. Caught him. Hold up, Mark.

[B]

Oh, go ahead, please.

[A]

He said something about Instagram. All week I've been home taking pictures of y' all liking.

[D]

Okay. Oh, oh, you got them liking court parks.

[B]

Oh, me got parks like that, huh?

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The podcast skit.

[A]

I mean, if that's what you want to say.

[E]

What was that?

[A]

Yeah, look, skit. Oh, let me look. This free check your man free.

[E]

What you looking at the time for, boy? Yeah, you can't edit it.

[A]

Yes, I can. The are you talking about?

[C]

Take some out with his junk dog.

[E]

Crazy.

[A]

Oh, come on. Go ahead, Mark. I'm sorry. I just want to have fun with parks. Go ahead. Love parks. Nice.

[B]

Billy Porter.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Yo, what's up with you?

[B]

What's wrong?

[A]

Billy Porter, Joe. No, nothing's wrong with Billy Porter. What's wrong with you is what I'm asking.

[B]

What do you mean? I want to learn from you all.

[A]

So the Billy Porter thing, Mark, sometimes just go ahead. Fuck it.

[B]

So Billy Porter just recently did an interview. I'm pulling it up here. He said that first of all, he identified as a bottom sexually. Salute. Which I think stunned the world.

[E]

And then.

[B]

But he said he hired a professional to teach him how to bottom. That he worked, I guess, with a sex worker or whatever. Yeah, Mark. Yeah, I know.

[C]

It's Pride month. It's salute.

[B]

It's prime.

[E]

What the.

[C]

Do you want us to unpack should

[A]

bring topics in, yo.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What would you like us to unpack about this?

[A]

What would they unpack?

[B]

You watching and said, he's bottoming Roll.

[D]

What you want us to do with this?

[E]

Is it because it's Pride Month, bro?

[B]

No, I, I, I actually felt like,

[E]

come on, we get it, bro. Like, you got. You don't even know what's going with this. But you talk about him having somebody teach him how to be a bottom. Mark, come on, bro. You put us in a position to lose, I think, and make.

[B]

I'm not putting you in any position. What position do you want to be in, Flip?

[E]

I want to be in a position where I'm sitting here and I'm engaging in the topics. However, you're talking about Billy Porter being taught to be a bottom.

[C]

What?

[E]

What is what. What do we need to know about that?

[B]

If y' all would stop saying what do we need to know about it?

[E]

Like, me tell you.

[D]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[C]

Teach us.

[D]

Teach us about being.

[A]

Ow.

[B]

We'll get to the bottom of this right now. Well, no, it, it made me think about, like, well, two things. One, I don't know if y' all have ever engaged sex work before. Sex workers. Excuse me? Before.

[D]

No, no.

[B]

But I also was like, where did y' all learn how to have sex? Where did y' all learn to be good at sex?

[E]

You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Because trial and error.

[B]

Why didn't you just access that?

[E]

Yo, and you know what I was thinking?

[B]

If I just said randomly, who told you how to flip?

[E]

I would have answered that. You, my man. Oh,

[A]

Bought that.

[E]

Be fair.

[B]

Let me guess.

[E]

You. Hey, stop.

[B]

Sorry.

[E]

Yo, they destroyed the factory where you learned how to do that.

[B]

You were saying flip.

[E]

I wasn't saying anything, man. I don't, don't try to.

[B]

I just, I thought that was a nice transition because when he. Because my first thought is, well, I don't really care who.

[A]

Don't say trans.

[B]

I was thinking, like, I don't really care about Billy Porter's sex life. But then I was like, that's.

[E]

How do you bot him?

[B]

That is an interesting. I already know that I was Dark New York. No, but it's more like. It was more like, oh, wait, I guess you do have to learn how to have sex. Some people do it just. You just fuck, fuck, fuck until you get good at it.

[A]

Sometimes some people do watch porn.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Is that the answer part of it?

[E]

Magazines back in the day. I mean, you just like, that's it. Movies, man. You know, we. Some of us hiring.

[D]

No.

[A]

Sex workers.

[E]

Some of us was actually living in the real world, Mark. We didn't get out of college and go straight into a. Some of us was actually outside, so we got to experience some shit.

[B]

I wasn't outside.

[E]

You know what I mean? Well, you were outside, but you was outside after. He was, like, sleeping on the bench and shit outside his house. Oh, what is this? What's the rest of rolls? That was out back in the days.

[B]

Gonna help me, Nigga, I don't know,

[A]

but that's not nice.

[B]

You know what?

[E]

I have bark, too.

[B]

No, no, I'm not swinging back. I'm above that.

[E]

Are you?

[B]

No, Go ahead. No, no, I was just. But I was thinking, like, it's got

[A]

to be the worst two man weave I ever seen.

[B]

I won't.

[E]

I know.

[B]

I won't speak for anybody else. Anybody in here, not including, but I know a lot of people who did. Even if it was just in Vegas. Even if it was whatever. They. They had a lot of sex with people for money. Like they paid for sex. That's how a lot of.

[E]

Learn how to.

[A]

Let me jump in here, Mark, cuz

[B]

no one's gonna be chilling on the mic. Thank you, Joe.

[E]

Don't chill on the mic.

[A]

Let me jump in here.

[E]

Don't do that, bro. Fix your mouth good, yo.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

Nah, he got to figure that out. He can't do.

[A]

I got.

[E]

That was expensive over here.

[A]

So it's my understanding that y' all are saying most men learn how to. From watching porn.

[C]

No, no, I'm saying that's part of it. That's part of it, though.

[D]

You went in thinking you knew what you was doing.

[A]

We all. Listen, y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

You going to tell the truth. Listen something older.

[B]

That's another one.

[C]

Or hoes.

[A]

I know. We all involved. We all in relationship. I don't know what some of us told our partners or didn't tell them, but a girl taught every guy how to fuck.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, it was a girl.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

She rocked our world.

[D]

She was either older or ho. That's what we say.

[A]

Yeah. She taught us. It's all right. We could tell our partner, yo. Another woman taught us all that shit. We could say it. We don't have to lie and say, yo, at 15, I was. Was putting a porno on.

[D]

Oh, no. That's where it started.

[C]

That's where it started.

[D]

That's where it starts. And then what happens is you put the porno on.

[E]

He started at porn.

[D]

You start to. You try to do what you think you supposed to do from that? And then she corrects you.

[A]

Correct.

[D]

And then she corrects you. And like, yo, that ain't it.

[E]

That Jack Rabbit.

[D]

And this and this and then that.

[A]

Yeah, she correct you.

[D]

But it start.

[A]

No, you watch the porn and realize you need to find somebody to try some of this stuff. Stuff on. And you get out there and you realize the baskets that you're shooting at ain't the baskets that's gonna come back and let you try some of this. So you go get Big Freeda, bring it back for some. Bring it back for some Big Freeda.

[D]

You know what? Freeda, you say another name.

[A]

Oh, Big Freeda.

[E]

New Orleans. New Orleans Backstreet. Stupid.

[B]

Hey,

[E]

why the are we gonna fuck Big Free?

[B]

Look, thank you for disclosing that. That's actually. That's actually dope. Everybody in the clips, make sure you get this part.

[E]

Just say another shout out to Big Free.

[B]

Know how to my Big Frida. That's cool.

[A]

Reena, you said Freda.

[D]

You said.

[A]

Y' all said change the name. Y' all doing all this theatrics, so I figured I did something wrong.

[D]

You did.

[C]

You did.

[E]

You'll find out later.

[B]

You'll find out later. You'll find out later.

[E]

Frida was a girl that you had sex with when you were younger.

[B]

Big Frida. That's dope.

[A]

I'm just making up a name, yo.

[D]

I'm telling you. Okay, Tell me as your friend. Just say another name.

[C]

That's it.

[D]

That's all we say.

[A]

Rita.

[D]

There we go.

[A]

You Big Rita.

[D]

There we go.

[A]

Just somebody that you can practice on. That's all I'm saying.

[E]

Got you.

[A]

And shout out to Big Freedom. Now they told me what the Is going on. Back.

[D]

Back to looking out for your friends.

[E]

Back to Bill

[C]

old.

[E]

Just saying Big Free. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

I learned how to my Big Free.

[D]

Whole room was like, huh?

[E]

I thought you was doing that.

[B]

Hey, he was gonna die on that hill, too.

[E]

Hey, you know what? Sometimes when your girl moving in, you gotta just go out with a bag,

[B]

yo, he do anything to sabotage it.

[A]

Listening now.

[E]

You said what? Oh.

[A]

Oh, yo, damn. Now that even sound like it's saying Frida. It does everything.

[D]

All right?

[A]

What else is going on? What else is going on out there?

[C]

Holy.

[D]

I'm with divorce court.

[A]

All right? Billy Porter. Are we done with Billy Porter?

[B]

I think we've.

[A]

And Billy Porter is lying.

[C]

You think he.

[A]

He.

[C]

He knew?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, you know what? I didn't even think about that too. Why would you have to pay? I mean, that means he was paying to.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

To take Diggs.

[A]

There you go. There you go. That's the politically correct version of hiring escort in gay world. You just hired a nigga. That's in what he like.

[B]

And gotcha. Gotcha.

[A]

Allegedly. Don't.

[B]

I have no idea. Shout out to Billy Porter. And again, I don't care what he does. Yeah. Just made me wonder.

[A]

Billy Porter is a lion.

[B]

I love Billy Porter.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

So what's up with divorce court?

[A]

All right, so we got another one that needs our attention. Last week. Last week it was jelly roll.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

This week it's lavar Ball. Damn.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

Lavar Ball went on a podcast. I think I have the clip here. Let me find it. To say that him and his wife are going to. Through a divorce.

[C]

I hate to hear that.

[A]

And he said they had. They had their run, you know, with my wife.

[D]

You know, Utina decided to go her own way. That's why you don't see her right here.

[A]

But she want to go do something else.

[D]

That's fine with me.

[A]

We had our run.

[D]

We had our run.

[A]

So even though she had the stroke

[D]

and getting older, she would never be

[A]

like, oh, man, she was always beautiful in my eyes.

[D]

Until you say, I want to go do something else. Yeah, now you're not as beautiful to me. Again, the fact that if you decide to go this way, I'm gonna go that way. That's fine. That's deep. It is what it is, man. And like I said, anytime you can find somebody you can. You can stay in love with for a long time or for one day or whatever, if you can witness that love, that's good. I had that way when I found somebody else. But it is what it is.

[B]

Wait, who?

[A]

God damn.

[D]

No need to worry. I don't like this one.

[A]

That's sad.

[C]

Yeah, it is sad.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

I don't like this one. It's sad for me.

[B]

Tell me why.

[D]

I. I don't like it, cuz.

[A]

Just.

[D]

I don't know what happened. Just on paper, on surface, whatever. He just lost his leg last year.

[A]

Mm. And she had a stroke in 2017.

[B]

That's why I think they. It's. It evens out.

[D]

But I stayed.

[A]

But that doesn't.

[D]

It don't even out. It don't even out.

[B]

Which one's worse?

[D]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

He stayed.

[D]

He stayed.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[D]

2017.

[A]

I'm still here.

[D]

I lose my leg last year. You out?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't like this.

[A]

That ain't even. That ain't.

[D]

That ain't even at all.

[A]

I don't care about that. And just you can hear it in his voice, like. Like I hear the words. I hear the words and I believe him. We had our run. It was great while. It was great. But I view her differently now since she said she want to go, she

[D]

want to go do something else.

[A]

I believe him.

[D]

I believe him.

[A]

The fact that I believe him is what hurts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Imagine being with somebody a fucking whole life for 30, 40 years. Y' all have the kids, you raise them, you stick by the sign through sickness and through health. And the second you go through some. Not the second, because I'm sure he went through shit before, but you get your leg cut, cut off, and now that's when your part, your whole life has just changed. Nah, I find it. Look, that's crazy to me.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Especially after staying with you after you had your shit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Was it a big stroke? Little stroke? Baby stroke? I'm just saying all strokes ain't the same either.

[D]

That's true.

[B]

Yeah. I'm saying. This is what I'll say. I have no idea what happened in their relationship. I don't know who's right and I don't know who's wrong. And whenever somebody, after 30 years ends something, for the most part it's not from one thing. No. It's a death of a thousand cuts. If she left him because he got his foot cut off or his leg cut off, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's absolutely fucked up and inexcusable. I find it. I don't know a shit about Levar Ball. From what I've seen and from what I've heard, I find it hard to believe that that's an easy motherfucker to live with. I just do.

[A]

But you, you've lived for 30. How the hell you get here? Mark,

[E]

he gotta. He has to. He.

[A]

I'm asking, I just want.

[B]

Have you ever seen an interview when he talks about how he. How he moves in his family? Again, I'm not criticizing him, I'm not saying he did anything wrong. I'm just saying he's a very intense, strong minded, my way or the highway kind of dude. Just how he's described himself and how he's described how he moves the family and controls the family, makes decisions for what they're going to do, what country they're going to live in, what the kids do, going to do that basketball's gonna be the center of the world for 30. I'm just saying there's a way that he moves in the world that could be exhausted.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It just may have nothing to do with the leg. If it doesn't have anything to do with the leg. I understand. I get it. He might be just a tough motherfucker to live with. Conversely, she could be, too. And he could have been like, I stayed anyway. And now you leaving me. What the fuck? Again, I don't know who's right or wrong. I'm saying I wouldn't assume it's about the leg. Cause there's a lot of factors there. There's money, there's independence, there's health. There's a lot of shit on the table that we know about. I wouldn't make an assumption that either of them is right or either of them is wrong. Cause I see a lot of people on the Internet saying, that's fucked up. She left him for his leg. If this shit ain't, man, have nothing

[E]

to do with it.

[B]

Like, they're rich. They're old. I don't put it differently. I don't know too many women that would just leave you because your leg got cut off at this age.

[D]

Well, he said it. She want to do something else.

[A]

Yeah, but do something else.

[D]

But it ain't even got to be the lead. It could just be her trying to have a conversation, saying, yo, I want to open this up. I want to do something different.

[A]

The leg is relevant because I'm reading through his tone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everything that you saying could be correct.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The leg is forcing us to look at a timeline. It's just the optics of it. It's the same thing I said with the joke at the Grammys. Hey, you might normally make this joke. You may normally want to, but the timing of it. Looks away. And hearing him, his. The agony and pain in his voice.

[D]

He's hurt, bro.

[A]

And immediately after saying, hey, we had our run. I ain't mad. But she did have a stroke. And he did that.

[C]

Yeah, he did.

[A]

He did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anybody? Hey, y' all that took communications classes out there. I was off the hip with it, but tell me about what that means.

[B]

Oh, no. He's saying y' all are interpreting correctly what he's saying.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I'm saying I don't assume that the first person that gets to me with their explanation for why our relationship ended is right. I'm not saying he's lying. Even people don't be self aware either. I've seen. Dude, I'll give you an example. I've seen dudes have 15 girlfriends, cheat, have babies at a wedlock. I'm not saying this is not LeVar Ball. This is totally different. I'm just using as a different example. And then they do lose their job, and their wife does leave, and they're miserable at home being even more of an asshole. And then when they wife leave, they go, she left me as soon as I lost my job.

[A]

Yeah, but let me get. Let me give you another example. Take Parks.

[B]

You never done that before. Let's try it.

[A]

Parks is selling ass down at the show, Yo. No, no, no, for real. No, tell me what you think as an example. Use Parks.

[C]

Parks is a crackhead. Mad cracks.

[D]

We'll be nothing but cracks.

[A]

I get a cultivar every time. It's say, yo, take Parks, for example. I'll be like, oh, it's never good.

[B]

For example.

[A]

It's absolutely horrible. No, Mark, I feel you. I guess.

[E]

I guess.

[A]

I guess it leads me to ask y', all, because again, I said at the top of this part, I'll say it now. It is divorces.

[C]

I think it's weird when people get divorced after being married for, like, 30 something years with a bunch of health. Like, I feel like even if y' all don't like each other or if you want to other people or whatever

[D]

it may be, at that point, you

[C]

might as well thug it out and figure out a way to live a different lifestyle together. In my opinion, like, even, like seeing long married couples, like, unhappy. It's like, I get that because you're gonna fight with your girl, and I'm sure after 50 years, you're gonna fight with them even more. But, like, man, especially if you live together, see, that's kind of partners at this point.

[D]

Like, that's what I got from what he was saying. I took that like she just wanted to open this up and do something. Something different. But in his brain, it was. The second you say you want to do that, now I can't look at you the same, and I can't be with you. That's kind of what cuz it sounded like she said she wanted to leave. It was, yo, she want to do something else now. And now. The second you say you want to do something else, I can't look at you the same. No more.

[E]

Ice. Do you believe in timing?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

You know, listen, absolutely. I understand what Mark is saying. Sometimes things go so crazy, and times just. It's just time for me to leave. But do you think that him getting his leg chopped off, him not being able to. I Don't know what he's able to do at home still. But her seeing him like that and let's say he still tries to express dominance in the house or whatever we were saying in the earlier. Do you think she's saying, man, I got a.

[C]

Your leg is gone.

[E]

I don't got to put up with this. Do you understand? Like, do you think that she could have used.

[D]

It's very possible.

[B]

My point is, all of that is possible.

[D]

I've been used to a doing this, and he can't do it no more. So now she said, I want to get it from somebody else.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And now it's a problem. It could be something that small that has blown into something else.

[B]

It's like, usually after 30 years, people don't leave for that kind of.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[B]

You just. You just make a difference. All I'm saying again, is just a type of back for me is I don't believe the first person just because they're the first person to explain.

[D]

Come out and say something.

[B]

Because, remember we had the Meg conversation. It was like we were like, well, yeah, Meg said she left him, or she, you know, that she went online because he was cheating. It was like, we shouldn't believe her just because she's the one talking. It's just because she's the one who's allowed us.

[D]

Well, that wasn't all. That wasn't the main reason why. It was because she has a reference.

[B]

A reference telling the truth. But my only point in bringing Megan is to say, like, it's true just because she said it first. We shouldn't assume it's true just because she said it. Said it first or loudest or is the only one who says something. And a lot of times we do that in any relationship. We believe that whoever says something, oh, that's the reason. Oh, this is tripping.

[E]

And don't diabetes do something to your dick?

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

No, but it's great for weight loss, drugs.

[E]

Oh, when you say more and it's. Can you ask him to say diabetes dick part? What did you say?

[B]

I didn't say anything. I had a joke. But I'm not going to make the joke because that'd be inappropriate. We talked about not crossing boundaries. And so to make a joke that would suggest that you're, you know, ah,

[A]

I don't want to bother with you guys if we can't cross boundaries.

[E]

You know what he does?

[B]

He's crossing boundary right now, wearing my chain.

[A]

This Is not your chain.

[E]

Yeah, it's over. It's over.

[A]

This is not your chain.

[B]

This is so disrespectful.

[A]

And if you ever been in the military, you hear this fan. If you've ever been in the military. Military. They teach you on time is early, and. And. And, yeah, I'm it up. Early is on time, and on time is late. So I'm just a little early. Okay, I'm just a little early. But judging by your performance these past few weeks.

[E]

Damn.

[A]

I mean, is this even a. This is even a question. Sat down.

[D]

They get so dirty.

[A]

He sat here eating bagels. He was sleep last week. You were eating bagels. You eating bagels.

[B]

You just left the set to do it while we kept working.

[E]

We.

[B]

We were on air. Fans, I hope you see this. This man right here doesn't respect your vote. He's saying that no matter what you say or what you do, he's still gonna claim that chain. He's basically the.

[A]

Oh, no, not true.

[B]

He's basically the Donald Trump. That's what he doing. He said elections don't count no more.

[A]

Don't speak for me. I'm sure in a few days, the votes will reflect.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

I'm just a PO.

[D]

Get the lights on.

[B]

Yeah, you might need.

[A]

See if we have something to close clean the germs off of this thing. Other. Other people have been. Anyway, listen back to this. Because this is good, I don't think. I think everybody reserves the right to wake up one day and say, I no longer want to be in this marriage.

[D]

True.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

I don't even really think you need a reason to feel like that. So I want to respect people's right to make whatever decision they want to make for their life. How you execute that is judge worthy for me.

[E]

Exactly. Timing.

[A]

And unfortunately, timing plays a part.

[E]

It does.

[A]

It plays a part in that. I'm sorry. If we've been going through it in the house and we both unhappy or you look a little more unhappy and you ready to leave, and then I break my leg the next day, or I. And it's amputated the next day and you leave, I would expect you to stick around for a little while. Even if you want to leave.

[D]

Especially if I stuck with you through a stroke. I'm sorry, bro.

[A]

Timing looks.

[D]

It just looks optically. It looks.

[B]

I get you on the optics, that's all.

[D]

I don't know what happened, but just

[B]

looking at it, let's just say hypothetically, again, I'm not too well, Lavar Ball. But let's just say hypothetically there's a relationship where it's easy to stay with the wife who's had a stroke. Cuz you're rich, you can pay for medical care and you can travel the world and fuck whoever you want.

[A]

The leaps and bounds that Mark take to side with a girl.

[B]

I'm not siding with a girl.

[A]

Phenomenal.

[B]

You're not listening. That's why I'm listening. I'm saying I don't believe anybody. I'm saying I don't assume that he's right just because he said it first. If she would've come out and say I left him cause he was a piece of shit cheater. I'm saying we shouldn't believe her either. I'm just saying I don't assume that just because. Because they got divorced after his leg got amputated that that's the reason she could still be a piece of shit. She could be fucking a dude up. She could be fucking a male man.

[D]

So let me ask you, why does he bring up that point of I stayed with her through a stroke because

[B]

I have found that when people break up, male or female, male or female or big freedom, whatever, that people are not very self aware about why people left them. I feel like people always pick the thing that makes them look best I can see. That's all I'm saying. So I'm not taking her side. I'm just saying I don't believe a 30 year marriage got so much shit in it. Especially when you're rich and famous and live in California that I don't believe none of this shit.

[A]

But it's not. Why you only talking about him being. That's what the part that's making me.

[B]

I just said both of them.

[A]

No, I'm talking about when it came to the money. That's what threw me off. When you started talking, you was like, well, when you're rich and you Were you talking about both of them?

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Got it, got it, got it.

[B]

That's my point.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

She could be fucking the pool boy.

[C]

Boy.

[B]

I'm not saying she's in the right.

[A]

Don't. The pool boy when I just lost my leg.

[B]

She might have been a pool boy for 15 years is my point. Just like he could have been for the last 15.

[A]

Okay, then you have to take a break. When I break my leg. Sorry.

[D]

Just for right now, at least.

[A]

We raised these kids in this house. They successful, they athletes, we in love, we've been Married long enough to where as the divorce. You will be set for life with the kids and with me from the divorce.

[E]

So.

[A]

No, you can't just. No, I've cut my leg. I need you to stay here for a second.

[B]

I do.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

I do.

[A]

We're up in age. We're having health. We're having health issues now. That's the type of I am. If we do. If we was together 30 years and we divorce and you go through a health issue, I'm here for you. Still, some just come off like real cow. And again, forgive me, I've never been married, so I'm not speaking from that angle.

[B]

It's even a marriage thing. It's just a love thing. But what I'm saying is. Again. Again. But that's his representation of what happened. And I'm saying it might be 100% true. I just don't assume that's fact. Right. In fact, what I have found is the person who goes to the media the first and is the loudest about

[E]

what happened often is the one that's the most wrong.

[B]

No, just isn't. Has a distorted.

[D]

It's usually a reason why they're going to the media.

[B]

Sometimes it's for sympathy. I mean, we had this exact conversation about Meg and it was like, well, she's going first, so we should just. Cause she went first and said her case the loudest about how Clay treated her. Doesn't mean that she's right.

[E]

If you was in a situation like that, would you go and say that we noticed something different? Would you tell that, oh, it was my fault and stuff like that? Wouldn't you feel away?

[B]

I wouldn't talk about it at all. Okay, but hold on, but let me finish.

[E]

Would you feel away if something happened? You got, God forbid, knock on wood, and your wife just left you, even though y' all been going through issues, Wouldn't you want her to stay?

[B]

Of course. But in that particular example you give, you've laid out all the facts. I'm saying, what if there's five other things? You know what I mean? And I don't wanna keep. Because if I keep giving hypotheticals, it sounds like I'm saying that he did those things and that's not my point.

[E]

But even if there was a thousand things that we did wrong, you still think that the person shouldn't stay and help care for you in the moment of that.

[B]

This is where the money thing comes in. And again, I keep going to Meg because I think it's such. Such an interesting example because when I was like, yo, they live together. And Joe was like, yeah, but they all got like this rich. They got like 10 houses.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, this ain't your Aunt Bessie who don't got nobody to care for her when she get the gout. These niggas are rich. He doesn't need her to be there to take care of him medically.

[E]

True.

[B]

And I could be with somebody else and still be there for you. You know what I mean?

[A]

Again, nah, I don't like that one. And again, it's a hypothetical, so I'm not gonna.

[B]

It depends on what happens.

[E]

It's the comfortability, it's the trust. Is what I can guarantee that you willing to do or you would do things that this next person might not do. You have to start all over if you fucked up and meet somebody. You know what I mean? Even if you hire a nurse or even if you hire somebody, it comes with things, with your significant other is there to take care of you.

[B]

Right.

[D]

You know what it sound like? It sounds like just from listening to

[A]

him and somebody closer to help that

[D]

he was blindsided by this. That's really what it is. And that's why I tend to like, I sound like he's saying, damn. Now.

[B]

Have you ever left a woman and she was blindsided? And you. And you. It was clear to you that you was leaving? Yes, you should. Very few people are blindsided is all I'm saying. If they. If they're self aware. That's not true, Mark.

[D]

That's not true.

[A]

Come on, we got. Now we got to put a stop. That's not true, though.

[D]

Very true.

[A]

That is not true.

[D]

That's. That's not true, bro. Factually, I'm telling you something that's not true.

[B]

Tell me how.

[A]

Because many people are blind.

[D]

Hindsight.

[B]

I said in 30 year relationships, I

[D]

ain't hear that part.

[B]

Somebody. Yeah, somebody could leave you. I mean, obviously somebody could be like, I'm. I met somebody. I went away to the BET Awards. Meta nigga, he rich. I get that.

[A]

I would actually, now that I heard that part, and that's fair because I didn't hear that. But now that I've heard it, I would actually argue. I'm still gonna argue the other side. I think if you're with somebody for 30 years, it can become really easy to miss all signals and signs.

[E]

Boom.

[B]

That's what I'm trying to say. Maybe I'm not being clear. I'm saying there are signals. Signals there that you don't pay attention. That's Why I keep going back to self awareness.

[A]

But if he wasn't paying attention and he missed him, then from his pov, the rug was pulled from underneath him.

[B]

Yeah, I hear that. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

And you're saying in real life. In real life the signs are always

[B]

there and they're usually telling you those signs. And a lot of times it's not that you don't hear them, it's just you don't think they're going nowhere. We take them for granted. Everybody.

[E]

True.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Y' alls is going somewhere. Yeah.

[B]

No,

[E]

absolutely not.

[A]

I have.

[B]

Mechanism. I think you made a word for that.

[E]

Look, look.

[A]

Holy what?

[E]

Don't say that. Don't say that about the doctor.

[B]

No, no, but.

[D]

Oh, that's hilarious.

[B]

I'm so happy, man.

[E]

I ain't going to lie, cuz you be doing that a lot. I thought about that at home. You crack jokes of yourself, told my mama love talk about your wife. I was listening. I was like this mar is a savage, but I know.

[B]

No, no, but they're self deprecating jokes. I make jokes about my wife and her personal trainer. Like I don't make just jokes like I'm leaving or cheating on or anything like that. I make jokes about her.

[E]

No one makes.

[B]

I'm on the receiving end of the joke.

[E]

No one makes jokes about leaving their wife neither.

[B]

I know.

[E]

Okay, I wasn't saying you did. I make sure. Clean it up. We make jokes which is on you and it's inappropriate. Would you say, would you acknowledge.

[B]

We got so much stuff to talk about, man. I don't want to get bogged down and just the mean shout out to my wife.

[A]

So now in more news that Joe Budden should not be the person to speak about or bring to the airwaves. But I'mma do it.

[C]

That's all.

[A]

So Jennifer Lewis recently did a podcast, we were all where she was speaking to Keke Palmer. Now you may forget what I'm saying.

[D]

Jennifer Lewis.

[B]

Jennifer Loops.

[A]

Oh, Jennifer Lewis was talking to Keke Palmer and she was talking about. I'm gonna play this clip. She was talking about about her sex addiction that she used to have. Hold up, hold up, hold up. There's no shame. Here we go. I, I, I talk about everything in

[B]

my memoir, the Mother Black Hollywood.

[A]

Everything from my addictions to molestations, abortions, childhood abuse. There's no shame in my game. Yeah, it happened, you know, I slept.

[B]

I love her. That was fun.

[E]

But anyway.

[A]

Oh my gosh, give me Some of your.

[D]

You don't want that.

[A]

You know what I wish I had known? I wish I'd known my body was a temple.

[B]

I didn't know it.

[A]

I know it now. And what let you know that?

[B]

Maybe Temple University

[E]

problem. Oh, Mark.

[A]

But anyway, yeah. No, no, no.

[B]

I didn't know it was a problem.

[A]

The addiction.

[B]

Look, when you get off a Broadway

[A]

stage and all that ovations and applause

[B]

and people praising you and the mobage and the homage, what are you gonna do?

[A]

You're gonna either way through it something in your arm, you're gonna go smoke something, you're gonna drink, something to come

[B]

down from that high.

[A]

So I used to just go find a gorgeous man.

[D]

I mean, that's all I got, was a sly.

[B]

I would have sex.

[A]

Sex was the drug. Okay, now, first of all, shout out to the queen, Jennifer Lewis.

[D]

Always.

[A]

We absolutely love Jennifer Lewis. And I just shouted keb for no reason. Shout out to her, too. I only brought this up to tell Jennifer Lewis that they've upped these holes. These hoes have updated the whole rule since you was out there slinging it, mama. So I applaud you for even saying on a platform I had a sex addiction and I slept with 63 men.

[C]

That's what she said.

[E]

Mm.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I didn't hear the number.

[A]

No, she said, jennifer Lewis, that ain't no sex. Hey, girl.

[C]

That's a good girl.

[E]

That ain't.

[A]

That ain't no sex.

[B]

It could be.

[D]

It's a hot summer.

[A]

Yeah, that's a. That's a hot few summers.

[D]

Jennifer Lewis, you was outside not even a few. That's all.

[A]

Auntie, you was outside. Exactly. 63 men. Ain't she about Jennifer Lewis?

[D]

Well, how old is she?

[A]

The whole. The updated hoes, the today hoes with a sex addiction. That number is triple. Oh, that's zero. That number's at like 6,000, so something.

[B]

Unless she was running them back a lot.

[D]

Dog, she's 69.

[C]

She can sleep with 63. That's not bad.

[B]

Wait, she meant for her whole life. I thought she meant over, like a small period.

[A]

No, she's saying that's her number. She's saying her number is so high because she had a sex addict. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

I just assumed it was like that year or two. I thought it was like a year or two.

[C]

Like a stretch.

[A]

Yeah, that ain't no sex addiction.

[B]

You've been for 50 years and you had that sex like.

[C]

Yeah, it's not crazy.

[B]

It's not crazy.

[A]

That Ain't.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, you can still. Sex addiction. You can be the same 10 people.

[E]

It's not crazy.

[A]

22 year olds is at 7,000 and ain't stopping no time soon either.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

That ain't.

[A]

That ain't Jennifer Lewis. O.J. eye girl.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

63A.

[C]

Hey, B.

[A]

That ain't a thing.

[D]

Ain't nothing.

[B]

Yeah, I'm disappointed.

[D]

That's fresh. Some of these hoes, right?

[A]

63. That's all I got on that one. I don't have anything else. I just wanted to tell Jennifer Lewis. Hole ahead.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

In my mind.

[E]

Where is. Yeah. Yo, he just hit you.

[B]

He wasn't there.

[E]

Say it again. I'm sorry. No, no, no.

[B]

You've been here two hours.

[E]

But we know that you're in cahoots with your boss, so give me a second.

[A]

Earlier.

[E]

Earlier, your boss stated that Ish was coming in later. He's just running in a little late. So I'm thinking that he's gonna pop. Pop up like how I did.

[A]

Don't say Mark, boss. Cause you're on your last week. You got another day. Tuesday is the 30th. He Keep thinking the 30th is Monday.

[E]

Let me get my Tuesday, though. It's obvious I've been getting my days wrong.

[A]

Let me get my.

[E]

Yo, he was.

[B]

Oh, this starts the last year of my contract. Nice.

[E]

It's not about you, boy.

[A]

Once the first hits. Yeah, yeah, but that's mad long. 7-27-7. Hey, tight.

[E]

Call me and make sure, you know,

[B]

just unite.

[E]

I'm not in cahoots. No, no, no. I'm not with none of that.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. How that kick gig will look on you versus how it looks on Mark.

[E]

How you know about that? Hey, yo, that's what I'm saying. Hey, hey. Yo, when you be announcing? Yo, how you know about that, bro? How you know about that? I don't like Ian. I'mma you up, yo. You see what I'm saying?

[A]

It's supposed to be for life. That's how you feeling?

[E]

Watch.

[A]

Go ahead, start that trump. We gonna go over there, knock you out. You think. You think the JVP don't got kick

[E]

with pop up on kick?

[A]

Just to kick a.

[E]

Can you stop just.

[A]

Yeah, just to jump somebody.

[E]

Ain't no deal. Listen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They said the ish is not here because Mom Donnie stabilized the rent.

[E]

I saw that.

[A]

I thought it was reasonable. Oh, and the reasonable doubt.

[D]

That's why I say Ish ain't here.

[A]

Homemade ish Due to fireworks.

[B]

Oh, that was the other big story. I mean, that's a big deal. You saw Yesterday, they announced 2 million people's homes are rent stabilized.

[A]

And more to come and more to come and more to come.

[C]

And all those people's won the local elections.

[B]

Yeah, they. They showed out two year rent freeze. They voted seven to one. I'm sorry. It's one million rent stabilized, Apartment one. One million people. Not too many people. One million people. Two year rent freeze. That's a big fucking deal. He done got rent freeze. Public food, you know, access to public food. You're talking about daycare, public bathrooms. He brought y' all a championship.

[C]

I mean, mean, look at politicians doing what they're supposed to do. Yo, what do you know?

[E]

Are you joining his cabin?

[B]

No.

[E]

Come on, Mark. Did he come at you?

[D]

You mean cabinet?

[B]

I was going cabinet. He only got a few days left. I just let it ride.

[E]

Words know how you play. You may go in a cabin.

[B]

Call me.

[A]

Hey,

[C]

I do need the Mondavi plug though. I need to take over that DJ gig at the Story of Fireworks next year, man. Yo, they was playing some.

[B]

I might actually be able to hook it up. No dead ass.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I will make.

[E]

You know what bothers me a little bit though?

[A]

Like vote.

[E]

I like mom Donnie. I like mom Donnie, for real. I really, I really like him. However, it's like, come on, Eric Adams let Donnie come here and smoke you.

[B]

Oh, he smoke Eric Adams.

[E]

Eric. That sh. Tight, yo. I'm tight, yo. God damn.

[B]

I hate. I hate that the black guy had to be the one. Turbo.

[E]

Yeah, that's how I'm thinking.

[B]

Yeah, it's like.

[A]

And he wasn't the one terrible mayor,

[B]

but I said the one term guy.

[A]

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.

[B]

He had to go, yeah, and Dinkins. One term. But. But like he. But the people like, terrible. He was like every other mayor.

[E]

People like Dinkins, though.

[A]

No, Adams was horrible.

[D]

Yeah, I heard a lot of New Yorkers saying.

[B]

But I think Bloomberg was horrible.

[A]

He horrible. And I'm not into politics. Like, I think.

[B]

I think. Yeah. I mean, I didn't like Eric Adams at all. But I think some of it was his personality, how he. How he performed it too.

[A]

They locking up all his.

[B]

I just don't want to hold him to a higher standard.

[E]

You didn't like the way the bravado, like how he was just. It seemed like he was one of us.

[B]

Sometime he seemed dismissive. Sometime he seemed dismissive of that he shouldn't have been. That's. That's the part I. Oh, yeah, with the church people.

[E]

Remember me and Joe was talking about that he did some. That he had the church choir. He did a press conference outside and had the people hyping him for the church choir. Joe was like, I can't believe this. Broke the church out.

[A]

No, he. He put. Put 20,000 officers in the train station from that. Like he just was doing.

[E]

He.

[A]

He took money from here or put it over here, gave it to his people, had his man be the chief over here. He was just. He was. He was. I don't want to say. He might sue me. Corrupt.

[D]

A lot of people say he had to go.

[A]

He looked corrupt. That's what I was saying.

[C]

Look, great.

[A]

A lot of glad that we didn't get an Eric Adams speech when the Knicks won. Oh, my God.

[D]

I'll tell you that might have enjoyed that.

[B]

Oh, I know that.

[A]

Anyway, we can't let mortgage Mark do all this, Mom. Donnie, while Ish now.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Don't talk behind his back. Wait till your op is here to take the other side.

[B]

My op, man, shout out to Ish. He came on in this thing together this last week, man. My subs is through the roof, man.

[A]

Talk about it.

[B]

80% of the people you know not, you know, criticizing him, but like.

[E]

No, but he brings them that light's getting John Hope some of his takes.

[B]

They disagree with some of his takes. Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Get the party started.

[A]

Got more engagement than, you know, the

[B]

previous guest you had on Amani, yo.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, he up again, boy. Yeah.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Especially from the women.

[E]

He did it again.

[B]

Especially from the ladies.

[E]

He got you again, boy. Damn, he like, what, 5o sash wasn't

[A]

even here for that one. That's crazy.

[E]

I ain't going to say.

[B]

Oh, that's who should be next, Sasha. I'm a fighter. I would will.

[E]

Yeah, sure.

[B]

I got to clear that one. Let me check. Yeah, let me check with production.

[E]

You og you didn't clear any other

[A]

co you have to clear. Sasha, it's fine. Oh, you made with the wife. Yes, me.

[B]

Oh, no, I don't give a about that.

[A]

I said sometimes you got to tuck your narcissism.

[B]

Freeze.

[E]

He know itch. That look he. He know he got. That's him. He know. It's that look yourself through the roof Ray with is there. Yeah. We don't need you to acknowledge that, boy. We know.

[A]

I think all my friends is that

[E]

we know Light skin hope he got it.

[A]

I think all my friends Is that

[E]

now all your friends we talking about Ishmael.

[A]

But I think all my friends are that nigga salute Ishmael in their own right.

[E]

Yeah, you know not to let that man.

[A]

I call my brother son, cuz. He's ch. Why you worried about everybody's con? Don't worry, yo dog.

[E]

Don't worry you good.

[A]

Tuesday will come. You don't need to worry about anybody else.

[E]

Everybody else, it's your Jay Leno. Oh, well, you know Mr. Leno talking about. Nah, he ain't gonna talk about you. But you know, do you know Leno?

[A]

I don't even like if. Yeah, you don't know even if Leno existed. I don't even like your impersonation. It should be on. No, I think. No, what I'm saying. I think he's a good kid. He wear whisper like he was good.

[B]

He don't do that on.

[E]

He wear whisper. Nah, he won't whisper on they network.

[B]

He be gregarious.

[A]

Gregarious. Shout out to Ish, man.

[E]

We love you, bro.

[A]

This is more than an hour hour late, but I excuse it, man. Go get your rent from them.

[B]

Hope whatever's going on, he's all right.

[A]

No, go pick your money up, man. I don't have anything else that I need to say. I do want to hear Yalls opinion on the Lamelo ball trade. I think the Wolves lost.

[C]

I think it's gonna be fun.

[D]

What?

[B]

They give up a lot of picks

[A]

and nas Reed a 2033 first round pick, three years of pick swaps and three second round picks. God damn.

[C]

That's a lot.

[D]

That is a lot.

[A]

No, they gave up a lot.

[C]

Yeah, but I think the Showtime though, okay.

[B]

Yeah, but Showtime ain't always win time.

[C]

Agree.

[A]

I don't think the Timberwolves should be in the Showtime business. I think they have a young star entering his prime who is placing expectations upon the team. So they had to make a splash

[B]

and make a move.

[A]

But that move is coming off you already making an incorrect move. It has to hurt. Trade and call Towns.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then seeing him him beat all the criticisms about him and win it

[D]

ended up trading Julius Randall.

[A]

Then you get Julius Randle. You trade him for a bag of potato chips, but just to clear cap space. Yeah, to bring in Lamelo. But now you got to also trade another fan favorite. And Nas Reed size is out there. You trading a 6, 10 dude that can handle the ball and hit a 3. Y' all talking about it's gonna be showtime in fucking Minnesota. I think it might Be showtime in Charlotte.

[B]

Here's the one.

[A]

Miles Bridges, Brandon Miller, Kobe White, who anytime he started on the Bulls, put up. He put up numbers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Knipple. Yeah. Yeah. I think.

[B]

Here's the only thing I disagree with. With that is I think Carl Anthony Town, because I. First of all, I don't. I'm not a Julius Randle guy. I just. I think that.

[A]

Shout out to Jules. I love you.

[B]

He's a very talented basketball player, but whether it's la, whether it's New York, I'm not sure he's the guy you lean on when you want to win a champion. I just think his decision making sometimes down a stretch doesn't make me happy. And he disappeared a couple times in the series. But my bigger point is I think Karl Anthony Towns is a great player, but I think he also elevated his level. Not just a basketball, but his intensity, his toughness, his focus.

[D]

Definitely got his.

[B]

He did being on that Knicks team. So I'm saying if he stays in Minnesota, I'm not sure you get what the Knicks got from him.

[A]

No, man, it still hurts. I'm just talking about the pain. You feel still gotta hurt.

[E]

Pain, yes.

[A]

I'm only talking about the pain. And. And regardless of whether he evolved or not, he could have helped him.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

He could have helped him.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[D]

I had an NBA question. Is it over for John Morant?

[A]

Yeah. You think so?

[B]

Yes, I think so. I hate that that's.

[A]

It is over.

[E]

What about his talking about skill? We're not talking about how he's loved by that.

[A]

It's all over.

[E]

His skill is bad.

[A]

All that shit is over.

[B]

He's still talented, but.

[E]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

He's talented, but. Yeah, I don't.

[C]

You think, like, a change of scenery wouldn't help?

[B]

I think it will, but I just think it's lower than I thought it was before.

[C]

It's a good question.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

I don't think nobody want him.

[B]

Well, that's part of the challenge. Yeah.

[A]

They're not able to trade him for a Slim Jim right now.

[E]

Really?

[A]

The commercials, not so much. We ain't seen his dad on the sidelines in a while. We ain't seen explosives from him in a while. It's kind of over. It's over, though. It's over. I was never that invested to. For this to hurt. Like, I'm not a Grizzlies fan.

[D]

I was a fan of Peter. Him, but to see this.

[B]

I love the way he plays basketball

[A]

when you blow it.

[B]

He's fun to watch.

[A]

I should say he is not. Not when you blow it. I feel about Ja Morant the way that Mark feels about Floyd. I'm glad you said I disagree how Mark feels about Floyd. I disagree with that. J, this is not a bragging thing or just watching somebody be happy in their spot. This is somebody that we watched take full advantage of his spot, almost like it couldn't be taken from him. I never got that from Floyd bragging, but I respect your stance on it. Yeah, John Moran. Yeah, Mr. Raps.

[B]

But, Joe, don't you.

[E]

Don't you believe in people? You know, you champion people. Because I remember when we did talk about John Moran, you were saying that, you know, he needs a new environment. Yo, shape up. Get yourself together because the league is slowly pulling themselves. You're not the poster child or the face, whatever they were trying to make him. You gave a whole speech. Wouldn't you want to see him overcome that instead of just saying it was over? Over when we want to see him, especially based off his talent, because is he playing bad? I don't. I don't watch, J. Is he playing bad?

[C]

He's not playing how he used to play.

[D]

Okay, but he was coming off injury.

[B]

Post injury is harder to say. But, yeah, I agree with you. He's not. He doesn't look the same.

[A]

Nobody cares, okay?

[D]

That's really what it is.

[A]

That's the problem. Nobody cares.

[D]

Nobody care no more.

[A]

You could be playing phenomenal. Nobody cares.

[D]

All that face of the league is they pass over. Yeah, it's over. I don't think there's nothing he could do.

[A]

Couldn't trust you to get that face of the league. We couldn't trust you to be the face of an organization. We couldn't trust you to be a leader of men. We couldn't trust you to carry us and make some leeway in the player. Remember them in the Western Conference final few? They blew up the whole team. Bane left, Dylan Brooks left. All these niggas left and popped somewhere else. This is bad leadership from you. Who else is giving you the keys to their franchise? I don't see it. J, I wish you nothing but the best. But the Knicks won a championship. I don't give a about the rest of you. What else? What else? What else?

[E]

What else? What else?

[A]

Okay, so I gave my lamelo trade thoughts. New future album announced next month, July 10th.

[E]

How's the single sound?

[A]

Breaking time for the summer. I have not heard any record.

[D]

They drop a new single called Radio let's hear.

[C]

Let's play.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not for the radio and she

[D]

bad all the way down Spoiler all around the biggest in the town Even

[A]

when I'm out of town A lot

[D]

of want the spot when I don't even want the crown Already legendary and never trying to talk about it I bet in the world she needed never

[A]

took control of me I could be grieving about the devil come with a king it's time to quit in their

[D]

place but no matter they leave I

[A]

know right now I'm on pace to keep me a be Try not to

[D]

boast about it Embracing and being low key Demonstrate when you humble Just keeping

[E]

it g

[D]

Future radio record I don't

[C]

know about radio record I like. Don't feel like first singly to me it feels like a warm up.

[E]

You don't like it Freeze.

[C]

I like it.

[D]

It's.

[E]

It's.

[D]

It doesn't. It's not mind blowing. It's not.

[B]

It ain't song I want to run back.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It's just open.

[B]

It's good though. I like it. It feels good. I just. It ain't. It ain't a smash though.

[D]

This ain't the future I want to hear.

[C]

Feels like a warm up.

[A]

Yeah. I ain't doing.

[D]

This is not the future I want to hear.

[A]

I ain't do it for me either. But I'm sure it's something to be on that album for me.

[D]

Album's called the Real Me.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

That alone.

[C]

20 something songs. 22 songs.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

We going to get to it.

[A]

And that Drake verse should come in.

[C]

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. It might be a couple.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Like is it. Is it now the proper time music people to call it for the song of the summer? Is it official? Official or is it still some late. Some dark horses that are going to pop up?

[A]

Summer started two weeks ago. But I'm down.

[B]

No, but a lot of times, you know. In June. Yeah.

[D]

You know that's what I'm saying.

[B]

In August.

[D]

I hate to say it and I hate.

[B]

I think you. I think it's.

[D]

I think it's. I think it's that.

[B]

I think it's that too. It's that. You right.

[D]

You're right.

[E]

Spend that. Yeah. Hell yeah.

[D]

It every place up I've ever been outside. I thought so too.

[A]

But y' all not tired of being late to things like before y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I still don't like it before. Y' all give credit to this video record.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

That's fun. Glad we've all come around. But the look y' all gave me, like y' all looked at me.

[E]

She put it on the page.

[A]

Seven heads like I was an alien.

[B]

I think you misremembering it.

[E]

It was.

[D]

It was more like.

[B]

I'm sure people. Like I said, I. This record don't do it for me, but I know it's going to go up, cuz. But I thought it was going to go up for women. I didn't think it was going to go up for dudes like that.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't. That.

[B]

That's the part that shocked me. I told you, I said, if I'm outside, it's going. It's going to be great. I said, but I don't. I just don't love the record. But then after I heard Outside, I kind of started liking. I seen that music. Yeah.

[A]

Janice is still having a great. A great time out there.

[B]

It is Janice second, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Shebang is still great out there, too. Both of those.

[A]

That's what I got for Song of the Summer options.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

As of now, it's Kisha and Shut the Fuck Up.

[B]

I think Jamie might have ran away. Yeah.

[D]

Still not my.

[B]

Are you going to Janice party?

[D]

F it.

[A]

Am I going to what?

[B]

The Janice party.

[A]

It is as a Janice.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It's about.

[B]

That's why.

[A]

Let me pass on that one, y'.

[E]

All.

[A]

I'm probably not going to head out. Probably not going to head out to that one. Probably just stay on in the house.

[B]

Fair.

[A]

Spin that. Spin that. I got to hear that on my

[D]

final Freedom Friday while spinning.

[A]

Final Freedom. Yeah. I got to hear that on final. Final Friday.

[E]

She body that, though, son. Seriously. Never count them out.

[A]

Jt. Step on that record, man.

[E]

No.

[A]

Come on, boy.

[C]

Hey.

[A]

Oh, my least favorite time of the day when this broadcast comes to an end.

[C]

Yeah. So bittersweet.

[A]

Oh, yeah, man.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hopefully you all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you again. Shout out to our brother is we love you Is here with us in spirit. Shout out to our sister, Mona. Love you, Mona. We absolutely love y'. All. Keep each, each one of us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you a do Farewell Adio Cerebra di arista or so long goodbye Or a simple head nod will suffice Just remember life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this one last as if it's all we have and last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure the Stagnant women want to travel. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab a Tylenol. I see the little tears in your eyes. Hey, they are wondering. Let me hear you in the car out there. 40 enough. 49. Oh, what if you cry? I wonder why you cry. I love you. No lie. This is how I feel. You need to know, baby. I knew me and Amani friendship fell off. You hear me out here crooning. You don't come hit the backgrounds or nothing. You ass left you out there on your own. Yeah, word. Let me give him another verse. What y' all on this weekend? What y' all on this weekend, man? What y' all doing? Running around, running around, running around.

[C]

Showing Mount Vernon with Rasheed Chappelle. DJ for him Saturday night. Doing a party tonight for REM's co workers. Doing some content Saturday afternoon, Sunday. I'm sleeping.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

I'll be, I'll be out. My brother's having a arsenal of friends, so he's having quite a few performances. And so I'm pull up on him. Got his new project getting ready to drop. He's finishing, putting the finishing touches on it.

[A]

All right. Big Art.

[D]

Yeah, he's out. He got out here yesterday.

[C]

Nice.

[E]

Oh, you want to go one day tomorrow?

[A]

Shout out to ours, man. Man, big Jersey. Big Jersey Mark. What you on? What you on this weekend?

[B]

Chilling with my kids and grandkids. I told you, I'm making up for Father's Day. Cause I was out of town last week. We going to kick it this weekend. Have a good time.

[A]

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.

[C]

Who's cooking?

[B]

Nobody in my house.

[C]

Okay, good.

[B]

I'm ordering out to my favorite soul food spots.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

I might put the grill on though.

[A]

I'm so for real. What you doing, Joe? I'm so for real. I'm a real. I'm a real Lizzie, man. But if you want to know the truth about it. What am I doing? Just can't live without it. I'll tell you after the brief. I'm pretending I'm you, baby. Here we go. So I can live my whole life with you and baby, baby, baby. What am I doing this weekend?

[D]

Freedom.

[A]

I'm. Listen, man, I'm trying to enjoy a little bit of freedom, man. Before my baby gets here. I ain't got too much plant. Probably go out to eat, get a little salad, some croutons, olives and might hit the market. Pick up some charcuterie. Sure, yeah. I mean my bond with. Bond with my baby. Watch something on the iPad with him.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Clean the house in preparation for the love of my life and my soulmate to get here and make emerge families. Make sure there's no dust in the house. Right?

[E]

Right.

[A]

Make sure there's no old work on the iPad.

[C]

A little sage, baby.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sage. Get all the sins out of there. Oh, yeah. Get all of that out the house. Make sure any that's hitting me that wasn't supposed to hit me ain't in my phone. Got to clear that out.

[D]

Just get a new number so they

[A]

don't even have your that part, too.

[D]

That's all.

[A]

Got a lady proof the house Got a lady proof that. Oh, you need to know. You need to know. Oh, baby, I'm for real. Wipe the tears. Yeah, these niggas ain't stop. Boy, y' all are down out there, man. Same time, same place. Enjoy your weekend. Remember Tupac, kids, if don't nobody else care.

[C]

Nose.

[A]

Nose.

[D]

No nose.

[C]

Nose. No nose. Nose. Nose.

[A]

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

[C]

No,

[E]

no. Joe Button.

[A]

Jbp. Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp? You've never heard of Joe, Buddy from

[E]

the webbing nitty era?

[B]

It's the network

[E]

boom.