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The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Yeah, we gonna enjoy today. But don't look me up and down your man. What I do? That is my man. Yeah, that is my man. Make sure he remain your man. He always gonna remain. That's it. That's it. Mute up part. Yeah. What you mean, yeah, you always gonna remain my man. I don't mean to tell him. No, you think you're not gonna remain my man. Yeah, don't play. Is popping. We in the building. Day 19 of the Knicks championship summer. We in this bitch. What's poppin, though? What up, y'? All? What up, Ish Ice? What up? What up, Mark Parks? What's poppin? Crazy Yo Joe is the classic. Why you ain't tell me later when you told him first a year or earlier? I think you full of shit, nigga. We all. We sat up here a year ago. I said it already and said lab diamonds. We done had three episodes about lab diamonds. They did shit. Don't spend your money on nothing else. Blah, blah, blah. I never heard that listening. I'm not saying y' all didn't say it. Don't attack my character. I'm saying I just don't remember him. Yeah, we've said that. I thought we was all on something. No, that's just me. Yeah, it was just me. Okay, so no way to. Yes. Yeah, it's happening now. It's happening after this little thing. Yeah, N. It's lit. I ain't. I'm late. I'm late to the lab. Change your life. I'm late to the labs. I'm late to the last works. I guess I am. Stupid ass. Me running around with real, man. It's over. That shit, it is real. It's manufactured. I'm talking about the real expensive. You talking about the shit that my man had his arm cut off. Yeah. That's what you're talking about. Old school shit. That's old school. The one. The ones in the mountains get it. Yeah, go in the mountain, go get that. Some they can make in the lab. Some they are mining for that are made. We want the miners and some they mine. Don't want the miners. Take that back. Sound crazy, but yeah, I get what you're saying lab diamonds is. Yeah, they good. They save you money. You got to get you a good. Yeah, you got. But same as, like, having to get a good jeweler. You got to get a good lab lady. I don't think they had that. When I bought mine, they had it, but it ain't as. Nowhere near as popular as they weren't as popular. And they was frowned upon like they was. Today's the day, bro. Niggas looked at him like, that's a quick. He called it, boy. It's a difference. It's a difference. No, it's not. I was just telling Parks outside, like, I'm stressed with, like, a million things that have nothing to do with my girl. And it's not real stress. I don't wanna. I'm super blessed. I'm super blessed. It ain't like a real stress. But all of the. Like, I ain't having to be responsible. I'm a kid, yo, yo, responsibility's a hell of a thing. I'm a kid. Growing up sucks, Joe. Adulthood sucks. Adulting sucks. People be calling me, trying to rely on me. Oh, that's nice. And I don't wanna do the. Come on, yo. Don't call me. I should be. That's a lot. I shouldn't be. In your top five are reliable people. Now, if I'm six or seven, I feel like I gotta show up. All right? He ain't got. He ain't. I show up when ain't got nobody. When ain't got nobody. I stand tall. But you ain't got nobody. You don't be playing a. Cause they ain't got nobody. How would you know, huh? How would you know? Being playing a is tough. Yeah, that's all. I ain't got nobody. You playing a. Yo, if you don't got nobody, nigga, you ain't number six. You ain't number one. Fuck you talking about? I show up better if you don't have nobody? Some psychological shit from my childhood, cuz none of my friends had their parents. So it was. It was my hood, my house that was. And that kind of just carried on. Yeah, I can relate. Even y' all with parents. I don't meet y parents. It's better than me if I think that. I mean, y' all are like, niggas got parents, boy. I know, but don't let me meet up. You've met my mom's joke. He. So I'm at Barks. Yeah, yeah, both of them. I met your mom. Your mom dissed me. Tell the Mom. Dude, you ain't me mama flip yet. I ain't me again. It's fine, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. No, it's fine. Man, I'm so happy to see y'. All. Happy to see you, too, man. How's everybody's weekend? Good, man. Was it the weekend? It was. It was. Yeah, mine was good. Mine was great. I ain't do. Yeah. What did I do? I went out. I went out. I went out to eat with. With Angie Martinez, legend. That was great, Angie. Oh, my God, man, I'm such a SAP today. Oh, it's so good. Angie always pops up when people are relying on me. Okay. Like, oh, she's so good to talk to when. Oh, things are just heavy. That was great. That was great. Nice lady friends. You need them for sure. Yeah, for sure. You need them for sure. Like, yo, yo. But we ain't. I know. You know, you're right. But you're good. Good, good, good girlfriend. Oh, boy, was I spilling the beans. Oh. Sitting there talking about anybody in my life. Oh, I needed to unload. Oh, she just listened. I love you, Ange. Oh, my God. This guy, he's special. Yo, I'm in a good mood. Come on, let's talk. Let's talk. Which I want to talk about you. Give me my chain. Oh, what do you mean? The Potter? The month has been announced. Nice. Who won? Joseph Anthony Button. I don't pay. Yes. Really? Yeah, it was Joe Button, Mark. Oh, congrats, man. Congrats. It was Joe Biden. Damn. Salty. Congrats from Freeze. I know that. I ain't like, you gotta work on your happy. Congrats. You were thick in the running, actually, Mark. Cool. Congrats, bro. He was in the running, too. He fucking cut class. Talking about some Zoom Gort. Oh, they didn't believe it either. I don't care. That nigga was. Yo, y'. All. Do y' all think he was a nigga? I would rather y' all be mad and not believe it than I get a warrant for not showing up for court. Nigga on Instagram. This is responsible shit. Driving around on Zoom Court and the judge gotta say, leave Freeze alone. So you saying the one day cost him the whole month? Well, no. Remember the day before he got sick from the rain? Oh, yeah. Then he was sick. So the two days that rain is Shout out to the rain. Rain this weekend. I'm not with you at all bars. Why you got on your saucy shirt, cuz? It's 90° outside. It's supposed to be 100 this Friday. It ain't supposed to be 104 tomorrow. That's why I put on my summer jeans. These are my summer jeans. The summer grade. He said my summer jeans. Mark. Do you wear shorts? Mike. What? What is your it's hot outside attire on your right there. It's hot outside. I'm wearing this. You just suffer. I don't suffer. So being in a cult, we weren't allowed to wear pants? Mark. You. Mark. See that freak shit you talking about? N. You had a flashback. Freak. Are you good? Nothing. Y. Told you, man. I mean, we assumed that we weren't allowed to wear shorts. Black keeps you cooler, I guess. I think that was just some weirdo she is wearing. We didn't wear jeans either. We wore it. I told you. You wore like, them skirts we wore, Ray. We wore rayon. We wore rayon pants and the Chinese collars and stuff. So. I'm used to wearing black all summer anyway. And then you should try shorts. It's gonna change your life. It's the other thing, you know, Invention along with lotion and some other things. He wear dress socks with his shorts. Cause he don't know what to do. Watch your legs first. It's not just. Well, it's not. Oh, shit. That's how it starts. That's the gateway wax. The next thing you know, your whole shit. I'm good. My legs are too small, man. So I can't. I got socks on now. I told you. That's my man George Costanza about your legs too small. My calves is too small. My legs too small. So, nigga, you ain't white. What that mean? Black niggas don't care about calves. That's the problem. We be looking like action figures. All big up top and small. I hate nigga. Like a big calf. Shut up. I don't have big calves. Nigga, why you always be getting calf implants, huh? I looked into them. I actually know some of the guys. Wait, wait, you looked into calf implants? Yeah. You shouldn't be. You shouldn't say nothing. I can. Yo, you don't have hair below the Mason Dixon line. You shouldn't say. That's just hair. I still got my actual. So do I. I messed it up and decided I didn't want to because I. I couldn't. I couldn't do it. 1. I can't believe that y' all thought about these calf implant shits. Why do you know that? White boys do that. You become more of ass niggas. Number two, Freeze. Lay do look like arse was body slamming that over that. No, he looked like there's some trauma associated. He looked like they had a glass. A glass living room table. Nah, look at who he's like, running through the window. They look funny. Look, chicken pan. Yo, leave him alone as an adult. Look like those are just shaving. Shaving scars. He got legs like. Like my. He got legs like my old cutter. That's my old. They want to live. We had to watch after. That's up. We had to look after. That's just from years. You had one of them too, right? It was fire. Me too. That's just from years of bicking. That's from years of bicking. Wrong. Yo, what's wrong with you? Oh, oh, I'm. I'm talking about. I'm talking shit about freeze. My barber come every morning at Tuesday morning. Now you do your legs, though, and sometimes he's tired from traveling a lot, and he was tired this morning, and I know what that means. And he be like, nah, you good, boy. That nigga commenced to cut my old fucking hair. My shit is stinging over here. I ain't gotta add up. I'm fucked up. Ain't nothing you can do. Nothing you can do. Oh, my bad. You gonna put that on there, then go spray. Wait. First they do a little. They put. They put the caulk on it. They put the barber caulk on it. Then they get to spray, man. My barber. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, man, here for a good time. Here for a good time. Wait, you didn't get the train, yo. Huh? You tried to hold on to that. No, you took it two episodes ago. I should get an extra couple days with this. The other. The other day. Yes, we do. Shoot. Exactly. It was two episodes. Y' all still honoring that after them accused y' all of doing some to them. I think you still sucking up to them. I'm good with them. Flip him 250. I only clips I'm. Put it on his neck. They mad at them. They made it sound crazy. They mad at these. They mad at these. Yo, they hate him. They got blogging stupid. The clipping feet up there. All right, we'll get into it. Can I get my chain, please? Yeah, I know. Yeah, give me a chain. Can I get my chain? Yeah, real simple, dog. Just give him my. Come on. Take your time. There you go. Don't just flop it on me. Place it gently, putting it on him. There you go. That's the first one. We said we was gonna do place it gently. It's the reverse of how I used to get robbed. Ain't never just yank my chain off me. I had to stay still. Just. Yo, stop moving. You lying. Yo, Mark, look what Mark did. Yo, come. Come on this on inside out. Put the chain over that. Hey, yo, that's hilarious. My yo, that I'm not good with that stuff. Man says stay still. You still still. Yo, can you say something to the people, though? Wait. Oh, yes. He said the fans back to you. Yep. He building that tough. And they. And. And they got him. No, I never. I never seen that. I had a gun on me. They said stay still. I listen. I don't know what happened. The day that they pulled out a nigga turned into a statue. Yeah, you tried. You thought you was fast. I just never seen that. I just seen n go. Oh, hell no. They got me. They don't want to damage the merchandise. Oh, please. He wasn't resisting. They just. Yeah. Oh, you know. Okay. They knew what to do. They took my off me at 2pm in Jersey City. At a light. At a light. You know how it feels to get robbed and have to power window your window down. What that mean? What that mean? Damn, I was feeling good. Had web jewelry on. You got it back. Yeah, yeah, we got the ch. How much you paid? You went to store, got another one. Yeah. Oh, they got it back. I remember that. They got it back. You know they got it. They. They got it back. Shout. Shout out to the. Shout out to the guys, man, they came over, got it back. That web chain that they took off me on 145th Street. No, they melted. They melted that bad boy down. Somebody had to feel that one. Yeah. Yeah. All right here for a good time. Not a long time. Let's have some fun. Let's have some fun. Yo. Ish. I gotta tell you how funny freeze was before you got here. That's my man. Hold up, let me tell you. Hey. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean is outside. Yeah. I mean is at the car wash and all that is out with they ladies is at the restaurants eating out. Outdoor eating too. You know what I mean? Let me get that table outside. You heard? Hey, too hot for that. Rest in peace. Tony Thompson. Fourth of July weekend coming up. Let's go. Shout out to all the ladies out there. All the ladies out there, all the parents out there, all the college kids out there. You wouldn't even have to wonder. You be my only love. I give you $1,000 if you can guess what song I'm playing. Next. That's the people that jack the beat. Who jack the beat now. Now. Free. Not free dog. Flip season. Queued up so there's no cheating, right? It's queued up. Cause Freeze said that my mix was predictable. So I just want to know what song you think is coming in. I don't. I don't got it, but all right. I know what it. Well, I changed it from when it was free. Yo, Shout out to high five all the R B lovers out there. Anybody having an R B party? Hey, Webster. What up, boy? We gotta get up soon. Come on, baby. Oh, I wouldn't have picked that. No, this wasn't. That's not what he had. I changed it. I changed it. Freeze. Try to call verify. Predictable, boy. Don't ever play with. Don't you ever play with verifier. Make your mix better. The you talking about. You're welcome. My. I just hope you let go. Freeze. That's all right. Shout to all the DJs out there. Everybody at work. All the entrepreneurs. Nine to five is all the musicians. Everybody on the West Coast. Everybody in La Igu Rock horn mix wouldn't have been predictable. Oh, shout out to rock on, man. It's a good guy. Yeah, it is. It's a good guy, man. I ain't gonna hate my blood. Shout out to doughboy. Shout out to fucking swab. Oh, what's my man? What's my man? What's my man from Jersey with the dreads? With the dreads? Oh, y' all horrible, man. My memory is bad now. From high 97. What is wrong with you, yo? Oh, man. Hola. What the. What's wrong with the man? Yo. Hey, yummy. That's. That's the song I was talking about. That's the song he had. That's the song it was. That's the song it was. Supermarket closing down. Man, I can't get my French vanilla. What supermarket? My coffee. What supermarket? Acne. The big one. Oh, so I was in the space. You get your coffee from Acme. It's over, dog. I know this is Jersey business that don't nobody care about. Yo, shout to everybody in town for the World Cup. Yo. Couple you keep coming to the strip club, talk about, do you got a Ecuadorian trip? No, we don't have a translator at the. What the Are you talking. Get away from the door. Move. Yeah, yeah. Look at the Spanish words. How much? Yo, I'm telling y'. All. Pick up a bunch of girls, too. We gotta hop in a sprinter and we gotta go over there and find that little sex ring, y'. All. I'm telling you. Yeah, they picked up a couple, that little World Cup. I'm sure we know some of them girls. The World cup sex ring going on. Picked up eight of them. It ain't far. It ain't far from me, bro. Awesome egg ring. Oh, my God. You know my day. Ish. I don't into the sex with it. You're right, Icy Ash. What was that? I'm from the Weber Nitty era. It's the network. All right, what episode is this? 942. Welcome to episode 942 of the JOE Button podcast. I am Joe Button. You're happy to be here? Super. Grateful. Extremely. What's that? I got that, man. Happy to be here. Yada, yada, yada. Y. All the good stuff. This episode is brought to you by Fueled by Power, By Price. Pick prices, gang. Yeah. Next to me, boo. Queens get the money. Queens flip in the building. Flip. How you doing, man? I'm feeling good. What's up, man? Good. I'm great. I'm great. Next to him, our good brother Philly's finest. Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you feeling, man? Great, great, great, great. Just not ventilated. I'm good. My calves is. Nigga ain't got no air circulation over there. Next to him, man. Stop playing with him. Playing straight from. What's that store that was on Ford. The pretty boy niggas went to the. With the plastic. Where they got the plastic containers for this? The Container Store. You know it's straight from the Container Store. Stop playing with him. Big ish. Mr. Thousand Doors and Up Ish. How you doing, man? I'm good. Yourself? I'm great. I could not be better. Absolutely wonderful. Next to him, the Bo Jacksons. Yeah. Yo, Mark ain't see nothing we grew up with that was cool. Like, he did he just seeing these. He like, I gotta give me. I just said they classics, okay? They had them shits at Boston College, wherever the he was at. Rhode Island. Wait, you went to Temple, right? Yeah. Got it. North Philly. I feel like I should remember that. My cousin. My cousin. Temple. I went to Temple. Alumnus, you said what alumnus? I don't know. You should have went with. You trying to clown me. No, I'm not. Whatever I said, I whispered it. Nobody heard it. Now you want me to say it again? That's why I said I couldn't write. I could hear. So you could tease me. No, I didn't really Hear you. I thought you said. You said you should have went to temple. There's a lot of colleges I should have went to if my head was on straight when I was young. But I was a wild boy in the streets, nigga. Something you don't know about, boy. Robberies, stick ups. You don't know about knockout stealing cars. Hooligan shit. Been pretty boy with light eyes, boy. You was over there talking, looking for daddy while we was outside getting to the dad was 4 foot 9. I had no daddies. My dad was a trier. One father Jamaican man. Oh, that was nine with light eyes. Robbing them. Robbing them. They didn't come around. Victor, that's you. Hey, Vicky. You got rob? I did once. Oh, okay. I got robbed before. Hell yeah. But I have my shit back. It's a difference. Well, everybody is got robbed at least once, right? I robbed one time. Got my shit right back. I robbed and attempted robbery. Freeze, mark. You never got robbed. Yeah, once. Yeah, I was a young boy. Feel like that's just part of the. They jumped me and took my chain. Yeah, it's the cause of being outside. We raising. You know what that rob is? Niggas took your sneakers and socks, didn't they? Come to your door, take your shits off. Take off your boxes too, nigga. As an adult. No, I was 12. What the fuck? They came to your door and took your shit. I was nine years old, my nigga. That's. What's it. We all got robbed. He didn't say no robbery. You got robbed at 9? N. Stop lying. N. Nobody get robbed at 9. How old you got robbed when you were 15? Yeah, he was just making shit up to make it sound cool. I got robbed at 9. Throw me. Why do you think that you didn't get robbed at nine years old? You went to school n with a book bag. Stop it. This new be adding just some old bay on his face. Be mad that their life was so corny that another gotta be embellishing. What I did. You said, yo, it's Doobie. No, I lived a life. You was in Austin Flex at 9. No, the that you wanted to do. I was really doing. I did it already. No, you did. I did it already. You did it. I was in Brooklyn. The n worship. I was doing the shit that they was doing. They don't know you. You. They don't know you. They don't know you. You was out here boosting like a dude getting told to go boof boost. That's what they told me. You was Boosted for I am self funded. Beat me up cause I wanted to sell drugs. Watch your mouth when you talk to. Now I'm gonna let you finish it. When I was boosting, I was getting 1500 a week from Macy's. I wasn't boosting for nobody. 1500 a week from Macy's. Giving it to somebody who give it more than half. Give it eight. Give it. What you talking about? Give it to the truck, man. You wasn't settling on your own. Watch your mouth when you talk to me. See yo, you just want to yell. I do. I'm smart. So I was taking it back to Macy's getting a mail check refund for the. I didn't know that full price. I wasn't. I wasn't doing 50 like you want to sell it in the streets. If y' all keep it up, they gonna call me Vlad. No never. If y' all keep it up. Don't call me name. No, no. I have a brain in my head. Don't charge for clips. You talking is you talking about and. And yeah, keep on do your New Jersey research. I ain't never held a pack for nobody. I don't gotta. I don't gotta worship no other. I can worship myself to the truck. I ain't from nobody ever. I'm from ish era. You don't have an error. I do. You got shot and laid there and cried. You probably told him. You talking about, you know, having that shot me. He's gone. May God rest his soul. You ain't do it don't matter. That matters. It don't matter. And if I did what I said on here. No, you would. I. You might though knowing you, you might try to get some pops. You talk about next Next is little man. You little. You little man outside. You gonna stop playing with me, bro. You little man. Y' all went got such and such car and I was driving it around. That's little Man. Go in the store and bring back some Skittles. None of them call them now. None of them ever asked me to go to the store. I stole their cars. I stole all the real in the street. All the gangsters the gave you a car to ride around. I don't know them jump me Maserati, Fox and jump. You know why? Cause I fought older. I ain't trying to be down with the. I never try to be down with the rest in peace. Fox, go get me a Ring Ding and a milk. Keep the change. Send me to the store. Never. Never. From a legacy 17. You know you Know what happened? You know how the police called me with my first gun charge? Who you talking to? Go get some skills straight out of me. Your man only saved you. He was a blessing to both of us. Remember that. I had money when got. When I met him, I had money. You better do your research on me. What you talking about? Straight out of Newark. You talking. You talking about, boy so have your money there. Straight out of Newark you talking about. You better watch your Mr. Take it further himself. None other than Freeze is in the building. He didn't claim that title after they took it further. Further. I'm good, man. I'm great. Jesus. Elmira's finest part. I knew that was gonna happen, though. Once I seen him flip outside with Adrian Broner. He's gonna come in and start, you know, I mean, wilding on, man. No. Hell no. I know. Why you so guilty for, yo, you know what I do know what I do think is funny. And then I'm saying this. I'm moving on, please. But there's a few of y'. All. I'm not naming names that I've heard make statements that lead me to believe that once you started working together, you made calls in the street to check and see. Check niggas, backgrounds. Yes. No, no, for real. It ain't just him. I ain't talking about. I'm not just talking about him. I've heard it a few times, and I'm. I'm flabbergasted almost every time. Back road checks, right? Clearly. Clearly the job, though. Oh, man. Would we have a bond if I ran background to be still that little? Would I. Would I be here? That's why you got to start your own. I worked hard to erase all my start. I made a change for the better that I grew up this year. Y. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Savon is here. Tanner is here. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there. Most. The most important. You guys are here. Hey, yo, listen, the nigga Alize called me with the Atlantic City mayor on the phone. Oh, yeah, they tired. Oh, come on, yo. I told you. Nice guy, too. Shout out to Alize. They called me on three. I said, you have to call Ian Swartzman or he said, I'm gonna call Corey. Okay. Because Angela Yee had texted me and said, hey, the Atlantic City mayor would like to get in touch with you and speak to you about some shit that y' all said up there. Then she sent me. I wish that the group Chat. The mayor reached out to a lot of people. I wish that the group Chat still had the list of everyone that you've caused beer. You forgot that you said, like we. Back in the old days. Remember how long. Oh, yeah. We kept adding names. That was funny. That was funny. Oh, I was here then. Duff. Shout out to Duff. He DM me. Text me. The Atlantic City mayor, y'. All. Y' all kind of. They just had wwe. WWE over there. They just hosted that. So I did hit Angela Yee this morning and say, hey, can you send me the mayor's. No. In case I do want to speak to him. Nice. I'm just not sure if I want to speak to him yet. Why? Scared? No, I don't think it's scared. Because unlike when we. And mind you, I don't remember nothing that was said about Atlantic City. But if somebody asked me tomorrow about Atlantic City, I know what I'm. I would know what I would say. So I ain't fighting. Whatever they said I said. Whatever they said, I said, I said. Who was it that barked on you from Gary again? The man. There was a. There was a singer or something. Yeah, it was. She hit me up. She's a. It was so dope. I can't remember. It was a few people. So it's a legend. It was a legend. Yeah. I'm trying to remember who it was. Anyway, well, unlike when we talk. Well, when I talk. Cause when I talk shit about other places, I just be up here running my mouth. I don't really feel like that about. About New Jersey. New Jersey. I've been here. So if I'm saying something, I'm saying it as a New Jersey resident and representative. But it can change that. It change. Well, I'm open. I'm open to speak. Calling. They changed it completely. And they could tell that to you, cuz you from New York. I don't know. I be there more than everybody in this room. Y' all been there recently? My dad is there. I'll be there this weekend, every week. Let's say. Change it this week. Doubling down. My dad is there every weekend. So is Ice. Ice is there. I'm always there. So that's why I'm saying I don't know if I really want to speak to him. Cause it might be a real honest conversation. Like me and him might be able to get a lot done speaking behind the scenes. Maybe there's something I could do to help. True. I don't really want to. And purpose purposely on. Got it. Got it. Jersey And I do hear that he's a great guy. A lot of people know him. He called the name. I hear that he's a great. He clearly got a lot of phone number. He's a lot. I don't know. I was on the phone while. I just call him right now. I call him right now. Call that right now. Call him. Call that right now. Call him right now. Let's go for the bed. I'm looking. I'm looking at Ishmark. What y' all doing, cuz? I haven't texted him. I haven't done anything. I got your back. I'll stand with you. Let's go, Mark. Hey, don't say that's funny to call a mayor live. Call him right now. Nigga fly shit. They gonna think I saw. It's the mayor of Atlantic City. City. Don't do that. Don't do that. What do you think he's doing, Mark? Don't do that. See, you can't do. You can't make them jokes. Ooh. Only Jersey. Jersey could just make jokes about Jersey. I live in Philly. We close to Atlantic City than y'. All. You don't live in Philly, number one. You live in Jersey. Mark, you don't live in Philly. Oh, then I'm in. No, you're not. No, you not. You on a probationary period. Jersey saved you. Jersey saved his ass, nigga. Your queen is from Jersey. See, that's true. Yeah. Yes, that's true. He don't play with that. None of us do. Yo, watch Joe. In about 24 hours, slip in Atlanta. No. Yeah, now it's the first of the month. Wake up, wake up, wake up. I think it's happening. Already got a tip of cologne on, right? I'm in a great mood. The out of here. I love the mood. He forced the move out the house, right? Oh, freedom, freedom, freedom. Over me. And again. Never leaving this fatty effort. He gonna be out there midnight. Yeah, we doing some behind the scenes for the. Behind the scenes for the rewind. We rewound it 17 times. I mean. Or I can get a P.O. box like some of the experts. You can't look live in it. You know what I mean? You can't live in it. Or I can get a P.O. box that's right there by the little hotel. Damn. All that bum ass hotel that we used to go to 20 years ago. That's why niggas can't. You know. I mean, I just get a side bump, you know what I mean? It's cool. Shut you down? Yeah. Nearby cities. They got cities in Jersey. Did I. Did I introduce everybody here? You ain't black Corey. Would it be serious? Serious? No, bro. He could be in the middle of something. Give him a call. I mean, is it more Ish? Yeah. He really called Mad people. Professional behind the scenes conversation. You don't want to be on air? Well, it can start here. Talk behind the scenes. If he's at the tables, we'll wait for his hand to be over. I don't want him to think I'm talking. No Smoke. What hit me? He said he ain't gonna answer that answer. You have reached Marty Small. I should have left a message. You should have. The Funny. I bet he call back. I bet he call back. He don't know that's my number. So text him and say just Andre. Should I text him for. Come on, man, we got to do. He'll go back. We'll get back to that. Where do y' all want to start? The BET Awards. The bet? We got a Joyce. No. Oh, all right. The BET Awards happened the other night. I want to congratulate all the nominees and the winners. I want to shout out. I'm sure Jesse did this. He did, yeah. It was beautiful. Shout out to Jesse and Connie Orlando. That was quick. I told you he wasn't doing that. You just need to finish that call back. Hello? Hey, what's up, man? How you doing? Is this the mayor? Yes, it's Mayor Marty. Smoking. What's good, bro? Oh, man. How you doing, Mayor? It's Joe Button. I'm. I'm live on the air. I just wanted to call. I just wanted to call you and let you know that I ain't. I'm not ducking no smoke. Okay? I'm not duck. Go ahead. I just. I just want to come on. Come on your podcast and tell Atlantic City story, that's all. All right. You know, I've been to Atlantic City a bunch of times. I just want to tell you that before you come. Okay, listen, listen, I'm. I'm. Listen. I'm Atlantic City born. I'm Atlantic City bread. And when I die, I'm gonna be Atlantic City dead. So let's do it. Okay, well, do you have an open door to come up here and talk? I think that'd be a real good conversation, actually. Okay. All right, just let me know. Shoot me a text, and I'll come up to New York in a heartbeat. All right, I'll text you behind the scenes. But you called a lot of people to define Me? Listen, man, Listen. I'm connected, bro. Congratulations on your success. Thank you so much. Connected. I'm for the culture. It's a threat by the culture. He called me n. Yeah. Now you. He's connected. He's connected. All right, so listen, let's. Let's talk behind the scenes. I can't wait to make that happen, man. It's going to be a good talk, man. All right, cool. Thank you so much. All right, peace. It sound like it'll be good. Yeah, it was. You going to be honest? Yes. You going to gain an understanding? I could tell by the way he was talking, you going to get an understanding. That sound like a J. Prince call, right? That shit sound like J. Prince on the phone. He found exactly how the man Relay City would sound. And guess what Joe sounded like. Exactly. Go ahead. You're welcome. Anytime. Tony changed when he found out he was on it. Yeah, that was a giveaway. Okay. He knew who it was when he called, so that was a giveaway. Somebody gave me a number. Somebody gave me his address. Somebody gave me a number. That nigga answered from down. No, no, no. That nigga said. Wait, you recording right now? You recording right now. He said, I know somebody. I know who. Yo, you looking at me? Oh, he stall with me, nigga. You bitch ass nigga. He stole with me. Do I do some shit like that? He knew who it was. You said, hey, he showed up, dog. He. Yo, he ain't know it was a business. He ain't have his business voice on. He like, what up, dog? He knew. That's some other niggas. Yeah, I know. Somebody tipped him off. Someone gave him his number. It was a two way street. It was a two way street. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It started crazy. It started to add up. It started to add up. Joe know I went up with these. Do that. You just gave him his number. Let me guess. I congregated with y' all on the elevator about it right out of here. Watch out. Y' all talk to me. That's one of them TMZ calls. You know he knew who it was. What up? Hey. Hey, how are you? It wasn't none of that. What up? Oh, okay. I'm connected. Does that make us toxic that somebody's saying, well, a mayor saying I'm well connected? We do take like, well, when a tell you he well connected for a reason. No, he said I'm connected 17 times to let you know. Right. Stop playing with me. My. There's also a certain amount of history in the the gray city of you know what's funny. You know what's funny, you ass. You talking about? Oh, he was letting you know. He was letting you know we all had something to say. It wasn't me. I mean, I'mma take the E for it, cuz that's what a leader does. Well, it's your show, but it wasn't just me. I told you I got your back. Yeah, we hold you down. It's just when he started talking. They going to hold you down. Hold it back, Mark. Sell me out for a seat in the office some. Somewhere not in Atlantic City. I see the tables. I get the hairs myself. Oh, my God. All right, so the BET Wards Awards happened in la. Yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. We all saw it. We're here with takes. Where do y' all want to begin with? I'll start that. It was hard as to find. They said it was going to be on Paramount plus. It was not. It wasn't. So I bet plus app no more. I had to resort some alternative methods to. To watch the show, which I didn't. Me too. I had to cut cable on. That's what I did. I ain't turned cable on in ages. And I ain't know what channel BET was. I just guessed on some muscle memory. But it was VH1. That's how I know I'm older than close. I know the VH1 channel and I don't know. So VH1 was showing it. Nickelodeon was showing it. All of the sister channels was showing it. So it was hard to find on streaming. I'll say that the rebroadcast of the Replay is on Paramount. Oh, it is. That's how I got it. Yeah. It doesn't help much at Sunday at 8. Okay. But the show. I thought it was. So I'm officially at the age where like a lot of the acts, I guess, like, who the is that? Okay. Because I might know their name and their voice, but I want to know their face right away. Okay. So I had a couple moments where I was like, I feel like the old head in there with some of the younger acts. But the performances were good. I thought Drew did a great job. I thought so too. You know, I love Drew. It was his first go. I'll give. Hosting is different. It is. It is. What's your. What's. His skits weren't that funny to me. They didn't land like his skits usually do in Internet format, I guess I would say. Oh, I see what you. I think all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's dig. Listen. We absolutely love Drew. That's my problem. Pick's brother. He's on his way. He's already there, but he's on his way to do even more amazing things. And I'm super happy that he got that opportunity. It did feel good to see a fresh face. It felt good for BET to acknowledge Internet lore, and I guess we'll talk about that later on. But Drew Ski was like BET saluting not just Drew Ski, but the digital era and the Internet and what's going on. We love that. That. But the awards. This was one of those times where you see the difference in Internet and posting is different. It is. It is. Yeah, it is. This was like. And you know what gave that away for me? Like, when Kiki Palmer made her joke about, hey, I should owe this. Why they even asking you? And they all stood up and clapped for her. Yeah. But when she took the mic, she sounded like a host. Yeah, she did. Yeah. That's some 10,000 hours. Yes, exactly. Shout out to her. And I did enjoy Drew Ski, but I'm okay if I don't see him host there again. I think he could. No, I think he could do it again. I think he'll go home, watch it. Yeah. Watch film. See the areas that you could improve. See the areas where you might have missed. And I wish they just would have came up with new skits. New shit. That's what I didn't like. That's the thing for me. Me. He kind of rehashed the same skits that we already died laughing at. So they not gonna hit the same exact way again. I mean, co host with someone like Kiki maybe is like the main MC kinda, and then he's the comedic relief. Yeah. And she put her bid in now, like, they saying she got sold up for next year. I mean, they kind of. The crowd kind of got behind her. Do you think that. Yeah, the crowd wasn't really receptive to some of the. Do you think that it's because they really didn't identify who they know who's gonna be in the audience? But do you think that one, that they saw it already or two. It just wasn't the time. In the moment. That crowd was. Have. Have seen the skits. Yeah. I'm saying. But which one do you think you lean on? Like, it wasn't a. Because the time. It's a time and place to do something. I don't think everybody's seen them skits. I was about to say that Too, I think. I think a lot of them, like. Like, again, some of them was older in there. Everybody ain't watched them skits and shit. I hadn't seen someone when he flew around. That's what they faces. Yeah. What the. The is this? And a lot of people didn't like that church. Yeah. Making fun of the church. So you. You led with that. Yeah. That ain't the right. You rubbed a couple people the wrong way. You can see it in their faces. They was like, yo, what the. Yo, black people are uber religious. A lot of them don't play by their church. Yeah. They look at that shit as blasphemous. And to Mark's point, me, you know, I ain't know a bunch of the. I'm like, who the. So some of those people might not necessarily identify with Drew Ski because to Joe's personality point, he is major an Internet star. Right. More so than a network star. He's an Internet star. A lot of older people don't really play the net like that. You get what I'm saying? So they got. They not. And again, I'm not. Again, I want to make it clear I'm not really putting it on Drewski that he did the same skits because it's. It's more of a writer. It's a famous corporate. We see what you did was hot online. Come do it over in front of more eyes. We're going amplify. Exactly. But even, like, when he did the walk down the aisle before he got to Kiki Palmer, when he was talking to Ray J, like, I think that's hilarious. I thought that was great because that was funny. Ray J, you lied to us. And I've heard Drewski say that to him before, but in a room full of stars, I don't really give a. About Ray J lying to me. Not with. Not with the host. The host is there to pinpoint point the heads in here. Ray J not even really dressed for this. He got a black T shirt on. It's just not. It's just not. That's a good point. I mean, the crap. I still. I separate the skits from his hosting. Right? And I was like, I didn't love all the skits, but I thought in terms of his crowd work, his. His moving, he looked comfortable, but he could get better. But I thought he did a good job. His energy was on a million. Oh, for sure. His energy was on a million. It carried it for me. I didn't love the. The whole ice cube that. That did that. It didn't hit that. I thought wasn't that didn't connect. Not. Cause we're whole Avengers. I just didn't think it was that funny. It didn't connect. Sometimes you miss it. Just. That just did not hit. Yeah. I ain't even know that he was doing hov. I thought he was doing Ren or one of the other ones. Yeah, for real. Until he kept saying. But he was doing Rent. He was doing we all this shit. No, it's not crazy. It's just like I feel you like Ice Cube was there you thinking that he emulating a Jerry Curtis curl until it hit you that he talking about Jay Z. Yeah, it wasn't that one missed. I'll beat that. Right? And doing that next to Ice Cube. That's what I didn't get. Ice Cube ain't never. Yeah, that ain't that. And if you see Ice Cube anywhere as of late, he don't really be on no Jokey joke. Like, he be super serious. Never really been on Jokey back in the day. He wasn't on. He's the straight man on Friday. Really? Like. Like you coming out there doing that next to him. It's just. Yeah. I don't think he was joking when he said, all right, you can sheep it up up here. They gonna black boy cancel. I don't think that was Ice Cube joking. Nah, no, he wasn't the. I did. No, I did laugh at some of that. The choir was singing back there. But again, yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, the BBL rapper dude. But shout out to Drewski. Amazing opportunity. I'm sure there's a million more at your door. And it was just. It was just a room full of beautiful black people where every time they kind of showed the drone shot of the crowd, I was dreading coming to work. I'm like, how am I coming here and say anything about this? This is just beautiful black shit. I ain't come. It ain't gonna be me to come in here and try to throw rain on the parade. Is there something to say? Yeah. First of all, real quick, we've been complaining about. I guess it was the hip hop. The Hip hop and the BET Awards are two different things. Very different. So let me say that. But I felt like BET as far as production wise, they did a great job. Job. They did. I thought it was put together well. For sure. The energy was. Was wonderful performances. I think the people showed up. I think showed up. That's the important part. I'm sorry, go ahead. I want to know Some of the critiques, because I left there satisfied, like, oh, this was nice. This was real good. Now maybe I'm looking at it from a different lens, you guys. I have very small critiques that are. That are significant to me, but they're not. Like, they might feel nitpicky. Okay. All right. One is. I think all award shows have this problem, but I find the BET Awards has this problem more. The banter between hosts, between presenters is often awkward and weird, and it feels like some of them just don't read before they get there. Now, sometimes it happens. It's very clear. Ice Cube, for example, he did a great job with the first thing he presented. Second thing, he's very clearly filling in for somebody. When he was reading the Lauryn Hill thing, like, he had never seen that before. That's not his fault. So that's the thing where, like, you can't do nothing about that. That's an award show. He was a G for even stepping. Stepping in. But some of the. Some of the banter I thought just wasn't. If you're gonna script it, it should be funny. And if you're not gonna script it, then let it be loose. And it felt like it wasn't. It was like it was scripted and not funny. Sometimes I didn't love that. All right, Mark opened the door right there. So I'm gonna follow. I'm gonna follow up. I don't think it's scripted. That's what I'm telling you. It's scripted. The. The Bantam. Yes. I've been on a lot of these shows. You can see it on the proper. You can see them reading the script. If that's the case, I agree with you because that seemed like it was awkward, like it wasn't real. I thought it wasn't scripted. There's a rehearsal the day before. I was gonna ask you. Oh, you just answered my question. I'm sorry. No good. I was gonna say, is it possible that. Yeah, it's scripted, but the person reading the script is new to them, and that's the point. That's what it felt like. That's a production question. Like, if I'm presenting, I should be there the day before, or I should be really good at reading, or I should be. There has to be something. You shouldn't first read it online. You shouldn't be reading it in front of. I agree. 10 million people. That's what that should felt like. Yeah. I hate to say this, but kind of, to Mark's point, some of the presenters and Bet does this more than anybody. The presenters, they about to come out. Got a show coming somewhere. Oh, yeah, they got. They let you get your promo off and they come out there as the show trio or duo, and be like, all right, this. This fall at 9 o'. Clock. What do you think, Trevor? What's the name of our show when it's just like abt? I damn near didn't give a about y' all being on two Dads in a Baby. I don't care what the cold from Martin is. And he looked great. He looked Adrian. He looked amazing. But guess who is not gonna watch the new Cole show, and that was my man D Ray up there. That D Ray's family friend of the show. I'm not watching none of this. I'm sorry. Save it. I don't watch those commercials as much as the blatant. Like, I wish they could find a cooler way to do. The corporate sponsors, they're nasty. Like, it's like we see the recipe Sonny Rollins presented by Doritos. That was crazy. That's exactly how it was. They could do that a little bit smoother. And because of that, because of them doing what you said, I paid attention to that so much more. At some point in the broadcast, I'm like, yo, these is getting all the money. Hyundai, Doritos. Miami was like, duh. They was out of here. Yeah. Went on. They shot a liquor commercial mid show and took a shot. Yeah, yeah. When Kiki went up there, she said, and Verizon, we gonna get. The Verizon is right there. We saying it. Oh, my God. Damn. That's what I said. It was too much. It was like, Verizon's here. Then we'll say, the living legend of war, presented by Verizon, with Verizon already sitting there. Like, we get it. Verizon, like, it's too heavy handed. All right, I'm gonna say some more shit, though. I shouldn't say. I'm right. I got your back. Just like with the mayor. I wish they stopped asking Martin to do shit. Yo, thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. As a black person with one of our better black actors and comedians. Yep. Come on. Yo, just stop. Come on. Yeah. Enough. Yeah. Am I off? No, no, no. When I walked in, remember? Yeah. I was like, yeah, yo, was. Is it me or what's up? Something, something's. Why can't just sit. Sit Let. Why they can't just let him sit down, chill. Bring him some water. Something like. Yeah, Just shot. When you do Your. Who's in the building? Oh, we got the legend Martin in the building. Like something. Just something. You don't have to have him on stage like that. Yeah, I don't like seeing. I don't like hearing him talk like that. I don't like seeing him. He just doesn't look like his best self. And he's such a legend. We love him so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That whole bit, didn't. It just. It felt off. Yeah, it's awkward. That's what I mean. That's the thing. I love the show, but I just think sometimes, again, the dialogue, the bit they just. They don't be. They just miss the mark a little bit sometimes. And they make me uncomfortable. Yeah, that's what it is. They make me uncomfortable when I'm watching them. Overall, I did enjoy the show a lot. Yeah, we a long way from overall. I know. I know. We ain't get to the tribute. I don't like shitting on shit and not like, I recognize that. It was a good show. No, it was a good show. Can I ask a question? Everything I got is a nitpick. How many awards did they give out? 4, 5. That was my whole thing. I'm like, who's with? Like, I could tell you it wasn't many, but that's the case with most major award shows. Yeah, but at least, like, even with the Grammys, they'll do the pre show. They'll let you know who won years. Like, I didn't know who. It's no time to give out awards when you're counting money. What are you talking about? This is not really an award show. We in the back count all the money. Yeah, yeah. Awards. It's a concert. I was surprised every time an award came out. Cardi got an award. Yeah, Clips got an award. Ti. Ti. Ti opened up with a performance. He was great. I enjoyed all the performances. K1. Even though her fans was mad that they went to commercial. But that's what they do. That's what they do. But she was great. I do have a problem with people just not singing or rapping live. Yeah, yeah. Like, the TV track every year gets louder and louder and only it like Max and French was very. Like. It was the song with. It was the song. But they look. They look great up there. They look like absolute money up there. Again, Jasma didn't want to kiss. We got to ask Jazz why she won't kiss this. Every time he go for some sugar in public, she turned her. She turned her head and he's such a boss looking. It don't ever faze him. He don't give a fuck. It don't never. He don't give a. But she won nine kiss. I gotta get some tea. And she hold down too. She don't tell the tea. I tried. Like I said, I tried, I tried. But Max and French look absolutely great when they put the minx on. Yeah, they did, they did. I was glad that there was that New Year York representation up there. What? What else happened? Cardi B was hilarious. Yo, Timmy B in this song was. And then after. And then on the Internet asking him to lay off a beer. That was the funniest thing in the world. They did it cause you did it. She went right online and said, yo, I'm not a bully. I don't condone bullying and I don't mess with people if they stop messing. Meanwhile, be just put out an album like two days before. Yeah. So leave her alone. Yada yada. Which I do like though. I'm not gonna hold you. I like her saying it, even if it's. I agree. Alright, you know what's funny? And again, my men should be acting up, but I swore Cardi B came out, did a verse from that song, moved on, did some other songs. Came back as like the grand finale with the be a D from the song that you opened up with. So you went out of your way and listen, Cardi didn't say Latto's name. She did. But she said that she said bia with the strongest beat I ever heard. She made sure she walked to the front of the stage. Also, can we do something about hip hop backup dancers? Like when I came into where we at, had crazy legs. Scuba Scrap. What the is. Wait, we had what was Big Daddy came brother Scrap. Oh, somebody happy D. What was heavy? Oh, the boys, the boys, the boys. Yeah, T Roy like, yo, rest in peace trouble. T Roy, rest in peace. Like, that's who was there today. Do y' all look at these background dances? Yeah, every nigga is fucking. Just fucking gay. I knew you were gonna say how he was gonna see I had some things with him. It was gay though. It was. Wait, that sounds like I got a problem with. And I don't. But I'm just saying can we hire like more people? Straight dudes don't dance no more. Yeah, they can't dance with the dances that they asking them to do behind these rappers. Cause I was looking. Them niggas is different here. They playing with each other. They grabbing dicks up they grab his dicks up there. I'm like, yo, dog. All right, I'm going to go make a coffee. Pride month is definitely over. Y' all Happy July. Like, honestly now, Cardi B. Did amazing up there. Shout out to Cardi. Who else performed? Kani Kaylani was great. Kani was. I love that song. I loved the performance. She looked great. I love Tims, too. Slow down, slow down, slow it down, slow it down. Flip. Hey, Timmy Tims. They gonna clip that up. Hey, Timmy Tims. Tims. Now's a good time to ask you a question that you had. Mm. What was the question about during Kalani's performance? Jamie Foxx. Thank you. Jamie Foxx and his daughter didn't seem like they were playing the guitar or that guitar wasn't plugged in for. I don't play around people's children. But I remember watching it. Like, I'm trying to wait to hear the guitar sound. I also have to say, as a guitar player, it wasn't being played. No. But have you seen a guitar? No, don't do that. That's not nice. I think that she knew the notes, but it's. I. I was. I put my ear to the laptop, too. You know, I didn't use the television, but I don't know what. What is that whole thing about? I don't. I was. Why do you think she knew the notes? I used to play guitar as a kid, okay? That's why. I don't. So that's why I'm asking. And it seemed like she did. Sorry. How old were you? That as a kid is vague. I play guitar from, like, nine. How many times to 12. How many times did you play? How many strings? How many strings did the guitar have I forgotten? Forgot. I forgot I played the guitar. How do you hold the guitar? The banjo. Uk. Yeah. He played the tiny guitar that they have, and the kids put it in the cart, son. Wait, you talking about the. That had the speakers. The speakers on. No, I had to talk. School of Camera Heights. That's what's up. You want to get the guitar school? I did, man. Oh, that's what's up. My mom put me in there, man. I was giving trouble. Yo, why your black parents? Now that we older, I know all the times y' all trying to get rid of us, yo. Right. I call my mom right now, yo. Guitar school, piano school. That's good. That's a good thing. I'm not lying. They did it to me, too. I played the educational artist. You believe you can read sheet music? Sometimes I used to. Sometimes I used to. F, A, C, E. I used to know how to read it. I used to know how to play. Give me a guitar, I show you. Okay. You bar before you be part of the gang? We talking about doing a band here. We used to do this pod in a room where guitars were just hanging everywhere. Never saw you touch it. I wasn't around. He. He lent me his guitar for. For video. Yeah. So you know. Really? He had that for a video? Yeah. He's a recorder. I play. How do you hold a recorder? Like this. Show me again. I remember that. Hold on. Come on. All right. There's musicians listening. Yeah. You don't play no instruments. Ass who don't play no instruments? You. You who don't play. No. They let you get away with that? You don't play no instruments. You don't play no instruments. Don't talk to me about a that play instruments before. Go play a drum somewhere or something. What you say? You play the drum? Drums are an instrument. No, I know, but I'm making a joke. His father played the drums. He said before. I think so. I'm about to say don't take Pop's credit. That's why I was going into. Y' all put your cape on for this. They. I don't need them to cape for me. I play piano by ear. I don't know what that mean. I'm sorry if I hear it. Rapping is an instrument. Joe's mouth is an instrument. Oh. Oh. All right. That's what they said. Nice. With the male organ. I don't like that. What you mean? That's what they said. You was talking to them. Is he a cunningus? Look, every corner you flew. Yo, I, I. I've used up all of my, my jokes about this topic. Okay. I want to join in with y'. All. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. We can acknowledge that it may not have been plugged in. And yeah, I think the performance was good. I don't really. I'm not a fan of. But let's get to the tribute. So Jamie didn't play the piano neither? I don't think so. But maybe. But he. We know he can. We know he can. He mimed it really good if he wasn't playing. And, and there might be. And also there might be a reason. There might be a technical reason why they weren't playing. Yeah, I think you're actually not alone allowed to play. I forget in live. I don't think it can be live. It has to be back on tracks. I forget the FCC rules, but there is some. That's. That's what I'm saying. There's a technical reason why I just don't know it. I just. That makes sense. Yeah. When I worked at bet, they used to say that I'd been in some of the rehearsals. I don't. I don't know the. There is a FCC rule about live instruments. I don't know when and where. I think it's live tv, but we can move on to the live. So the tributes. Before we get to the tributes, because I want us to close with the tributes. Tiana. I cried. Oh, she spoke, but I'm also biased. I love her. I love her. I love her so much. A rose from Harlem, friend of the show. She's great. Amazing. It's Janet. It's Janet. I told. I told y' all how Tiana feels about Janet. You can kind of see that jumping off of the screen. Every one of those tears was real. Every one of those tears was real. That was. Yeah. But I saw some people saying, should Teiana be getting this Icon award? And I guess they're saying that she's young, because she's so young, but. No but. And they don't really understand. They don't know her history, though. No, the award was for the year. Oh, okay. Was a lifetime. It wasn't a lifetime achievement award. It was award for the year. Well, that's why they need to do a better job naming some of them awards, because at least four of them, I thought was the same award. No, it was. I thought the Sylvia Rohn Award. Yeah. That's the ultimate kind of war. Yeah. All right. See, I was one of the voters, so, like, I remember they sent us, like, descriptions, although we didn't vote on those two things, but they told us what they were going to be. And I was thinking, like, you. Like, this doesn't. Ultimate Icon versus Icon of the Year could be confusing if it's not really explained well on camera. It makes sense on paper, but when you say it out loud, it necessarily doesn't translate. And so a lot of people thought it was like a lifetime award for Tiana, which, in fairness, the Grammys does similar things where it's kind of unclear what the fucking award is for. So I don't want to pitch. No, that's not a BET issue. It's just that award shows don't do a good job. But. Yeah, but a lot of the. All right. Actually, I do have a few more topics before we get to the tribute. So let's kind of rapid fire. I don't want to drag the BET Awards too much. What did you guys think about the Sza Dolce Saxophone moment? I think it was another bit that didn't go over well. I think it's just, again, I don't think SZA or Dochi knew, but. But they didn't have back to me asking how many awards were presented. It's clear they wanted to use this the saxophones getting louder thing at some point in the night. But they ain't present no awards really. And people got up there and got off quick. Now I got two people on stage. This is the perfect opportunity, no matter what they do, to just get our little saxophone getting louder shit off now because it's them two, it's gonna have some pushback. Yeah. It's gonna be received a certain way. They also didn't know what was going on, so they didn't wait on the joke. Like, you got to make people be in on the joke. I think for it to Adji handle that like she smelled. Talked her after. And that ain't no joke. Yeah, when you up there presenting it, it ain't funny, you know? I mean, if you up there talking, it ain't funny. He did say in the beginning, like, yo, I'm gonna give y' all 30 seconds. If y' all don't get off in 30 seconds, this the music y' all gonna hear, right? So I think maybe to get it in one time during the show. Show, they pick that time. But if you the person, you ain't with that. If you don't know, you're not with that. And I think. I think they try to keep people from knowing what's going on for genuine reaction. Okay. Because again, this is Internet, and that's how I be with a lot of skits and all this. Like, I'm trying to get a real reaction from y', all, and maybe we can make it funny, right? Freeze. How did you feel about Best Male Hip Hop? Freeze and Parks. Who won again? Who won? Who want clips one? Oh, no, they won artist of the Year, too. They want album of the Year. They want album of the year. Oh, and that's the one I'm thinking about. They want album of the Year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with it. That was album of the year to me. That was album of the year. I just wish they'd been there. I'm not blaming them. I'm just saying. No, no, no criticism of them. I'm just saying. I Love. One of the things about BET awards was typically the people who won showed up. True. And they were very intentional, at least back in the day about making. Let me not say that coincidentally the people who won the awards were there. And so I was. I was. I was kind of expecting them to pop out and they didn't. So that's the only thing. I just want to see them. That was the only thing I didn't like for such a big award. And they seems. Again, they seem surprised when they present. Presented it. Yeah, they kind of were looking around like 17. It was a few. I also think it's weird if you're biased towards just giving it to someone that's in the building too. So it's. It's a double edged sword, I think a little bit. I agree. Well, you know, before, I mean, we can't prove it, but that was how they got you in the building. Right. You got to perform. Right. And that's why they started the academy. Wale. I think J. A lot of people was. It was a. It was a bunch of good hip hop albums this year. It was clips a lot. Number one for. You can't. You can't argue at that. Clips album winning. I wouldn't. Even if you. Even if another, like, if w album won, I wouldn't have been. I love that. I love that album. We're killing this rapid fire thing. Let's get to the tributes. You have. You have more. No tributes. Okay, so there were two tributes following Mark's lead. Let's start. Start with d'. Angelo. Get a mark. Okay. The d' Angelo one. I thought, first of all, first of all, it was the second tribute we've seen for d' Angelo because the Grammys did one. Yeah. So you have to look at it and get in that context because the Grammys already covered some of the big hits. The stuff that people, I think in that crowd may have known more because that crowd did not seem to be kind of locked into the songs or the music. Mark, you gonna start with a cape? No, I'm just. And do you believe that what you're saying, even if Jesse Collins is responsible for both productions, I still am not holding the BET tribute up against the light for what the Grammy tribute was. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. I want to hear him finish. This is what I'm saying. First of all, I'm saying it was a good decision to not do the same thing the Grammys did. I like the fact that they had Vanguard perform And that they didn't just do Brown Sugar lady and all that shit. I'm saying that was a good thing. I'm saying that was a good thing. Where I thought they went wrong was. Was. I didn't necessarily think the personnel was right. Yeah. And so the crowd couldn't really. You know what I mean? For example, I'm a huge Ari Lennox fan. I don't think that was the right song for her for that performance. It didn't. It didn't match the vibe of d' Angelo and it felt. It felt a little bit awkward to me. Couldn't agree more. Yeah, it wasn't. Again, it wasn't the song choice. If you gonna go back and she looked and sounded great, but she shouldn't have been doing. Doing that. No. Then I don't think it would have been the worst if she. If the rest of the show went well. You know what I'm saying? If she was lead off. Yes. Yeah. She got better. And it got better. Correct. Yeah, but it. It did. And listen, Duraminar, I thought he was the highlight friend of the show. I enjoyed seeing him every time he popped out, which was a lot of times. Yes, he did it. He did. He did. He did. He was doing his thing. I couldn't be happier for him. He shouldn't have been singing Damn Motherfucker. And he killed it. Yeah, but he should not have been singing Damn a song. You know, the song is about. That was the problem. And he up there, which just. Not this song again. He killed it. But that's what I said. My issue with this was the personnel, not the song choice. All talented people. People, listen. The next brother I'm about to say something about. I feel like is one of the most talented musicians out. Yes. They absolutely destroyed the pocket of Devil's Pie, by the way. They put that ship to like 120bpm or something stupid. That was like. That was another. That's what I'm saying. Again, I understood that they didn't want to just do the same thing that had already been done. So I get the Vanguard set. I actually think that was kind of cool. I. I ain't even mad at the people they chose just the wrong. George Clinton, legendist of legends. But his involvement was. It was weird. Yeah, it was weird. And saying George Clinton's involvement is weird is like what he's going for most of the time. Right? But it didn't. It didn't hit. It didn't hit. It didn't hit. I couldn't agree. Y' all being nice. Couldn't agree with y' all more. Y' all are being nice. I would give it a C plus. I wouldn't give it a C plus. I'll give it a C maybe. You know what I like? I thought Vanguard sounded great. I thought the band sounded a amazing. That's actually what I like. I like. I like the. Except for that one. Devil's Pie. Yeah, except for Devil's Pie. I thought they sounded good. So that. That's what gave it a C plus for me. Because sometimes the band don't sound good. Vanguard was going to sound good. Yeah. And that's. That was the. That was the rock. That was to me was what held it. I think that d' Angelo has enough music to where they could have even chose some more. More. More songs or better songs. Yes. Some of them songs just need to get done. And I don't give a. How many d' Angelo tributes was done before. Get Bilal over here. Yo. I'm not going to lie. I feel that should be present at every d' Angelo tribute. For me, that's was like. But the Grammy. So what they did, right? Like, yo, we don't have Grammy. They did it so good, though. Yeah. I'm with you. Is. I agree. It's enough black musicians that are talented enough. Enough to have smoked that. Like, we don't. Nah. Did the Grammys do Smokey Robinson with Cruising? I think so. Oh, wait, we can't do Smokey Robinson, cuz. Cleaning. Cleaning company. Yeah, that. That. That one wasn't great. How'd you guys feel about Lauren? I like Lauren. I like Lauren much better than Fire. I. I loved it. I loved the. Let me. Let me rephrase Jersey people in the building. I loved the rapper singer combinations in Lauren. Yeah, a lot. We can't say we gave Common Queen Latina. That one was weird. Plus and we didn't like that. That's weird. I got a lot of feelings about the Lauren one. Yeah, but you like the d' Angelo one. I give it a C plus. Go ahead. Go ahead. Who was the person that. The Laurel was much better. I'm not saying it wasn't. I'm just saying it was. I enjoyed the. The angel when I wasn't even always entertained by. I was kind of. I was always thinking about what was wrong with the Lauren one. I was able to settle in and like it. There were some big hits and there were some misses for sure. I thought starting with War Smoked it. War Ready or not, that's what they started with. Time War. The country. Was that Sizza and. No, no, the country. The country group. The husband and wife. Yeah, they started with. Oh, yeah, you're right, you're right. My fault, my fault, my fault. Yes, you're right. Joyful, Joyful. You're right. No, no, it's war. And they were one country duo. A couple years ago, I swore they started war and treated treaty. The Warren Treaty. It was a gospel song. Yeah, that's called Joyful. Joyful, though. Yeah, the song. Joyful, Joyful. I'm saying, I was trying to think of the group. I'm just shouting. Okay, got it, got it. They killed it. They killed it. And honestly, if you watch the performance, you could see when Lauren was really feeling and having a great time versus when she was trying to not do the Mariah, but was feeling it in time. When she got on stage, she got in diva mode. We'll get to that in a second. That's a whole other conversation. Don't you ever call that the Mariah? No, that's what's admiration. That's the Prince called. The Prince. Yeah, you know. Oh, I see. Withdrawn, you, Honor. Yes, it's definitely the Prince. It's definitely the Prince. Yeah. Why the fuck am I. And she look great, but why am I looking at Doja Cat right now? See, I. So part of my issue was Lauren got so many amazing songs. When she's rapping and singing, it's hard to find people that can do that. So you had to have some combos. Well, we could find a black girl to do it. No argument from me. No argument from me. I don't want to look at this little white girl while we celebrate. Celebrating. But I'll tell you something, she did better than some of the people who I saw. A good job, Right? She did a great job. And I'll tell you, for example. For example. I'm just saying I didn't want to see her do that. I'm not talking about her talent. No, because she. She actually did a good job. Absolutely bodied. Yep. They did S and do. Killed it. Absolutely killed. Yes, they did. They killed it. That was one of my favorites. Tierra and Tim's Smokes Body. Tierra Wax. I like that one a lot. I didn't like. And I'm a TR Whack fan. Super fan. I just. I wanted to see a little more. A little more energy from her. Okay. I didn't like her stage energy that night, but I thought she killed the rap. She did a thing. I like the afoot. The hat. All That I thought she was fly. I thought she was dope. I just. It just felt a little low energy for me compared to what was happening on stage. And when I watched common who's like 50 out there, like killing it. We didn't get to that. Yeah, that's a different issue. I'm not talking about it. Before energy. Latifa's energy was crazy. She was. She killed that smoke, that Latifah. They. They closed it. I thought the opening closes were great. Rhapsody and Lizzo killed. Except Lizzo started rapping when she was killing the singing. Rhapsody was so in pocket on the rhymes. And then Lizzo came in on some back and forth and that. This is the. That was my problem. It should have been Rhapsody rapping. Correct. And Lizzo singing. Correct. Rhapsody did great. She was so in pocket. I love Rhapsody. I think they killed that show. I. I didn't love Liz. Who's the lady that sung Killing me Softly. I don't know who that was actually. Cuz she kind of. I didn't really like. There was a part smok happy. You ain't know. You thought she smoked it. No, no. Yeah. There was a part where the ad lib part that she didn't do correctly. That kind of bothered me. The bridge a little bit. Thank you. She still killed the. That she kicked out a bridge bothering me. I mean. Yeah. I was like ah. Yo. To give the d' Angelo performance to me a C. That Lauren. That Lauren tribute had to be A. A. I give it A. I liked it a lot that you're talking about. Her name is Alexia J. Alexia J. Alexia J. Shout out to her. I think that was fire. I didn't love the bridge on that, but I didn't. I would give the Lauren one a B plus. A minus for me. Lauren had a couple surprises. I agree with you. B plus A minor. Yeah, I'm with y'. All. They had a couple surprises for the Lauren thing including her children. Right. So when they say we're gonna now Zion. I expected to hear Zion a song for Zion. Yeah, you know. How beautiful. There's nothing more, you know. Instead he came out it me up. Yeah. Right. First of all, I'm old as fuck. That Zion is because I was there at tower Records in 98 when standing there waiting for the album to release set as and for Zion to now be this grown ass man like damn near 30. Yeah. It was crazy to me. I would have. Look, it's her kids. It's her performance. Cool. It's not what I wanted to See, it's not what anybody in that building wanted to see, but it ain't. It's what she wanted to see, but it's a tribute to her. It's a tribute to her, so do it. And I think they did a good job. We can nitpick. They did fine. And that's why I said, well, who's they? The organizers. No, no, that's not what he's saying. Go back more barks. Come on in. Come on in. Who's they? I think the kids did find there were two kids, right? So YG performed. He bodied it. YG performed. And then there was Selah, her daughter, Marley, her daughter, who came out and sang. She looked great. Beautiful gowns. Selah is a model, a singer, an entrepreneur. Wonderful young lady. She's, like, 28 now. Forget how old these kids are. She sang for her mother. I thought that that was tough shoes to fill. Yeah. For anybody. For anybody. Yes. But they're especially tough shoes to fill. My mom is Lauryn Hill. My grandpa is Bob Marley. Yeah, that's a really tough. That's tough. I mean, why we hide? I'm trying to throw the cake to you, but I don't think we'll make it that far. It was bad. It was a bad performance. But okay, we gonna highlight the bad, but highlight the good. That YG did a good job. Yg, I put on. But you didn't stay on that. He came and he represented for his grandfather. He represented for his mother. He sounded great. He did the son. We gotta highlight that before we get to the daughter coming out there and just doing a tribute to her mother. Cause her mother wanted her to. You could tell it was something. She was surprised by it. I just think that out of. She said, I'm doing this for you, mom. It seemed like her mother always told her it was something between them. That's how I took that. Well, you can see with Laura, I feel that, like, even when she did the Kanye show, she's at this point where it's like, yo, if I'm involved, I want my kids involved. Yeah, that's how. And that's how it should be. That's our ticket. You know what I'm saying? If you got me here, my kids are performing. And so I think Selah, again, who I think is very talented, and I was very happy to see her on stage, tribute. Having tribute to her mom. And again, I love to see her mom that happy. She was, like, elated. Elated to see a baby on stage singing to her at the Beat. I mean, it's fucking amazing. I can't even imagine what that would be like. She chose or they. It was chosen for her to sing the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, which is a vocally somewhat challenging song. Mm. And so some of the runs in that. Some of the. Some. That's not an easy song for a really, really experienced vocalist to do. Sure. And it wasn't the best fit. That's what I'll say. The shoes got better. It might not even be about that. Like, again, that's a kid. That could be her mother's favorite song. And she's like, you know what? I'mma do that, all right. I'm doing mom's favorite record at this point. This ain't about the fans. This ain't about the viewers. This is about my kids up here are singing to me. And as a parent, that's some fly. I don't care if you get up there and it up in the world. I ain't mad at it. My job is to say what I felt. Out of 12, 13 performances, if we didn't strike goal on two of them, we got. We got it. So be it. Yeah. Like, I thought that shit was amazing. If you ever do a tribute to me, put my kids up there. I don't give a fuck. If they ain't got musical going in their body, let them go up there and bang some pots and pans. Be the drummer boys on the bucket. Yeah, like, I see what you doing. I think that was dope. What? Leaving me on this island. Yeah, you. You there. I'm fine. Double. That's where I am on. On the kids. You see, I muted up even on the Jamie Fox kid. Like these. These are. These are young kids. Yeah, well, they're not that. I mean, if it was. They ain't my kids. My. I can't. I can't do that to no kids. Go ahead. I'm not. I don't care what you sound like. Yeah. I just didn't like Love before again. I'm a big fan of her. I'm a huge fan of Lauren. Lauren's my idol. I just didn't. That wasn't the. My favorite performance in the book what. Com Rap. The comic rap Lost ones. He. Yes. That was weird. I don't want to hear a dude rapping Lost ones. Yeah, I feel you. I mean, you know, the lyrics are unison. Common is popping up everywhere. Absolute legend. But I just didn't need him there. That's all there is. I was okay with him at A Lauren. His energy was great. His energy was great. I thought him and Queen Latifah had great energy. I would have rather had one more Jersey artist there on the stage instead of comment, rather he did retrospect for life or something like that. Like that actually would have made sense. But that's his song. So I get why, you know, and I love that song, but that's his. Nas was fire. Nas tore it. The Was fire back out. You know, I mean, she sang on that. I mean, yo, put that back out. I love came out every award, every. Yeah, no, I. I thought. I thought. Overall, I thought the Lauren tribute was like, again, B plus A minus. I thought it was great. And then after that, there's a commercial. We come back. I still saw MLH up there, and I was like, wait, she gonna perform? Because sometimes people perform at their thing, sometimes they don't. Right? I thought you was coming out y. That MLH thing. Be me up. I ain't going. I do be feeling away about that. I'm like, oh, they got bark. And then she. She sang X Factor. X Factor. It was closer to the original arrangement than she usually does. Closer to the record. Someone in that background vocal group or band was getting fired, though. She kept me the whole time. She was just yelling at somebody. Yeah. Someone got sparked on backstage every time she do X Factor Live. I love every version of it. Really. You can't fuck that song up. It's impossible. That is one of the greatest songs ever made. Anytime I hear it, that song. For me, that song is up there with damn near Purple Rain. Like, it's up there. It's up there. It's up there. See, I like the original. I don't know, like, sometimes some of the renditions, I hate them. Yeah, I don't like some of the renditions, but I. Song is a song. I've seen Lauren, her. Her killing her killing that. And she did it better where I seen her at the last time. But. But different. It's always different. Yeah, but. But, yeah, different. But her doing it reminded me that nobody else was performing. Right. She is what I want to hear the. Where this is different. Or you didn't hit this note or you changed the run or you did. I want to hear your line, that was 30 years ago, and I might not have it no more at 52. I want to hear all of that. Although she sounded as good as I've heard her in a while. No, she sounded great. She sounded great. She sounded good. She sounded amazing. Look great, too. And it's tough look amazing. I said this. I'd say this every time I see her kill some. But that album. That album, it's hard to find. Yes. It's past that. That's almost underselling it. Yeah, it's. You got to go get Thriller. You got to go get It's Rare air. You got to. Yeah, it's up there with that. And across Generation. Like, take whoever your favorite artist is. Can't do it. Whoever it is, and take all the albums they ain't got that. It's about five albums that I could say are, hands down, better in. In, like, the 20th century. I'm talking about, like, songs in the Kia life. Right. Amazing Grace. I'm talking like, yo, dog. And some of them. You gonna get an argument from some people for sure. No lie. Like that is that. It's. Yeah, yeah. And. And that gave. That gave me grace for the people who had just performed. Like, I watched a performance, and I was like, it was a B plus, a minus. Then I heard her and I was like, wait, no one can do this. Like, this is. This is enough. Another level. This is Stevie Wonder level. This is like, exactly, Aretha. This is like some other. Yeah, that was so good. She had to make another one. Yeah, yeah. She just did a little acoustic set and then. What's that? Scary. That's it. She was like 22 years old. 23 years old. She was maybe a little bit. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, dog. She graduated high school in my year. Oh, okay. She was young as bro. And. And to put that project out at high school together. No. Okay. She went to Mark's wife. High school. Oh. But I used to just be around. But no. What I'm saying. No. All jokes aside, but yo, early 20s, you. You. You. You gave the world that in your early 20s legend over there. There's a path here that I'm just not going to take. But to give the world that in your early 20s, bro, is remarkable. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yes. It's even more remarkable. Even more remarkable doing it at 70. But I'm just saying, musician, you had three or four albums. This was your first album. My. She did that. First album. First solo album, rather. In your early 20s. Like, that shit is unparalleled. It's amazing. It's a pretty amazing. Yeah. That shit is crazy. Yeah. You know, Lauren and Wyclef are fucking musical geniuses. Yeah, for sure. Oh, man. Could you imagine what I'm saying? We know some prize verses. Yeah, yeah. Battle. In battle. We know John Forte versus Rest in Peace, John Forte. I'm just reading the patch made at the studio. God damn. John Forte. Sickening. That album's dope, too. Reach out to Jerry Wonder, too, man. Underappreciated genius. Yes. Another world, another one, man. Wyclef just had a. That a front. A Front porch performance, y'. All. Y'. All. Y' all know the YouTube series Front Porch? Yeah. And he absolutely smoked it. W's one of the best performers. He's amazing. Again, you realize he's a. Because the Carnival is again, one of the albums. It's not Miseducation, but it's one of those albums that is so good. And 30 years later, it's even better when you see the. He's been doing nothing but touring globally ever since. That's a killer. Y' all saying is offendi. That's a fact. That is 100. Come on, come on, come on. Ain't no shade. That's why I clap. That's the jersey. Great. Okay, he him. But. But don't say the. The carnival in Miseducation. I just said it's not. Mr. Don't even. That's a great album, though. But it's an elite. It's a classic album album. And I put. It's a classic album. It's a great album. Don't say it with Miseducation again, though. That's all. Just love it. It's not the same sound. It's not the same block. Not the same clip. I said it's not mis. Education. But don't. Don't even. You don't need to say that. Because if I don't like Mark said the carnival. Yeah, you can. The carnival. Classic dope joints at 8:30. Nobody said. Nobody know where would ever say that. No, I agree. We on the same page. And yet this will still turn into a Mark said the carnival night one the year. All right, so we enjoyed. We enjoyed the awards again, shout out to everybody who flew out there. I didn't hear no stories of violence. I didn't hear nobody getting. I did see Jim Jones talking to security rather aggressively. Some near violence guy, too, but he sleep violent when he was here. It wasn't him. Tip kept walking. It was his crew that was going ham on the side. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. Kevin Gates pushed somebody off of him, you know? You know, sometimes people be too close. Y' all think. Y' all think they missed it with not having Karisha perform? Kind of. Yeah. The way the crowd. The way that crowd went off on that. Yes. They missed it. They missed it. A th percent on that. I reckon they didn't miss it. They didn't. Is that a Because her performance maybe? No, I'm saying. No, no, no, no. They've been working on the awards forever. She put this song out hour ago. You could make it work. Oh, they could have filled it. We could have got that. We not rearranging our award show for Karisha to come here and do this. We ain't even let her do it outside. We not letting her do it inside. But I love that she took a second and let the audience brief sing the. I love that. That was great. And that was organic. Like, you couldn't pay for that. You know what I'm saying? Which was fire true. Sponsored sponsored by D by TR it was dumb, that song. I'm trying to tell you already. That is that song. That song is so hard that when I was in the spot the other night and it got to like 1:45, 2:00am and it didn't come on like I called the DJ names in my head. I'm like, it's fucking 2:15, nigga. If you know what to play the fucking. You know, we here for the bartenders on their phones, nigga. Do something. Play the. Play the shit. That's gonna get this shit going, nigga. God damn. Anyway, again, congrats to all the winners out there. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show, prize picks. All right, it's a scorching sports summer and you can make all your picks on prize picks. The WNBA and baseball are heating up, and every game in soccer's biggest, football's biggest tournament is getting more important. With big tennis slams and major golf tournaments on the horizon, there is no better place for all your summer sports picks than prize picks. America's number one sports picks app. All right. Ish was out last week, but ice gave us some loser picks last week. Good thing we have the champ back school. Let's see. Let's see what is she's feeling like I hit last night. Brittney Griner for more than four and a half rebounds and no vapes. Alyssa Thompson for more than 14 and a half points. Angel Reese for more than 14 and a half Points. And Paige. You like that, Paige boy? And Paige for more than 20 and a half points. Don't forget to download that app right this very second and use promo code JBP to get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on Prize picks, the official partner of the NBA. All right. There are some sports topics that I want to talk to y' all about. I just don't want to talk about them right this second. Okay. If that's okay. The Chris Johnson story is rather sad. It is. Malik Beasley is an absolute. But we'll come back to all of that. Was there anything else in music, Music, music? Well, prior to the BET Awards airing, they did Bow Wow's Tiny Desk, which was. I think it was the first one to air on television. Okay. Because it. It aired at 7:30 and led right into the awards. Okay. And he absolutely killed it, man. He killed it. And he reminded a lot of people. It was, you know. But Tiny desk, quick, he did. Out of my system. Fresh, fresh, fresh as I'm. Is shorty like mine. Bounce with me. Let me hold you and like you. That's a strong six. That's a strong six. You know what I mean? But, yeah, they. They. They did a. It was a really good. I enjoyed it. I watched. I actually tuned in to watch that going into the wars. And he smoked it. Like, it's a good reminder. Cause people keep playing with Bow Wow's name when it to comes come up. Yeah. Like, yo, y' all forget that I got these records. You know, His background vocalist was killing these shits. All of them. And I like, hey, yeah, it's groovy. Yeah, groovy with the band. Look, a rapper rapping during a live performance. Just. Oh, shout out. Just dj, just. I love you. I mean, if you listen with your loved one, go ahead and get a little sugar. Go ahead and give your loved one a little bit of sugar. Sugar. Yo, you used to be a dancer. Yo, you be dancing on a low. Why you stop dancing? Yo, I'm about to get back to it. You're talented on the low, man. It's going to hurt me. Damn. Damn, he sound good, yo. He does. He sounds real good. Wow wow salute. Man, I wonder why Bow Wow ain't been up here yet. When do they. When as musicians, Right, Both of you guys. When do an artist get to a level like that? Is it. Continue practicing? Continuing. Is it continuously? Is it touring? When do they get to a level of the breath control where they sound good, they sound coherent? Where does that come from? From doing it. So it's just continuously working. Yeah. Reps. Reps. He's been doing it for a long time. Yeah. Bow wow got a lot of years in this shit. Yeah. To keep his image as clean as he has for this long for his demo for those. Those young kids. All of them fucking ages on bet. Bow Wow's a host. Bow Wow's a actor? Yes, he's an entertainer. For real? Yeah, he's a pro. He is Bow Bow at the Millennial Tour. He's got. He's. Bow wow is. Bow wow is kind of him a little bit. That's what I'm saying. I wrote it up that said more respect need to be put on Bow Wow's name. It does. Like, for that reason, even in acting, on the acting front, he does well. On all the. He's been in. He just kind of not trying to be funny. But why is it more respect? Why isn't Bow Wow's name. You said, why isn't. Because. Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing. No, no. They attack Corny. That's the second. That's all it is. That's Tag Corny. But that's it. When that happens, it don't matter, because he was doing this Bow Wow. Tag Corny. Yes. Yes, he was. Yes, he was. Okay, but is that the airplane? A lot of that was bad. Airplane was bad, but it was funny. Yeah. I thought it was all like. But I'm just saying that's when. When they view you a certain way, it's not about your talent. Talent no more. You're looked at through a certain lens, and that's where they hold you. I agree with that. But I think. I think a lot of it is. He was a kid artist, a very tiny artist. Like, I mean, small. Age. Age and physically. And even when he grew up, he became Mr. 106 and Park. So he was still. Even as an adult, he was still doing, like, shit that was targeted toward a young demo. I don't think people. Even now, when you look at him, his physical frame and stature. Right. Isn't really one. No disrespect. Don't give grown ass, man. Yeah, don't give grown man. So from his acting. No, listen, from his acting thing, like, it would be hard for them to really cast him as an adult grown. You can't really see Bow Wow's suit, briefcase, and all that other shit as an actor. Oh, look at Mr. Man going to work. Yeah, he almost looks like a kid still. Like, you can see him in a college role today, and it would fit if you didn't know it was him. I agree with all of y'. All. I agree with Ayes, too. But I agree with you. I don't think that's the number 1 1. Like, the number One thing is not corny for B. It might be the age. Like when you think he think of Nick Cannon, the first thing that they say is this just corny. I disagree with that too. I disagree with that too. But again, even with the Nick Cannon example, no matter what Nick Cannon has done afterwards, guess what? It goes back to the corny. Yo, we not past that area. Yo, why we can't embrace our corny? But what makes I ain't the coolest out, but I love myself. You know, I tell y' all that every day. My self esteem is high, my confidence is high. Can I do corny every now and again? Now that bad? Washing the plane, that was a lot. But I mean, it was still funny. If you're going to be corny. So you trying to say. And he owned it. You trying to say all child actors. Because Nick Cannon, I'm saying all humans. Wasn't he on the show before when he was younger? Nick Cannon, he was on a bunch of shit. Yeah, he was. His label Corny. A lot of child stars have a different. You really want the truth? But there was a no. Who's the guy that we had up here? They don't look at him coining the same Thomas. Yeah, don't look at Leon Thomas. Corny. He wasn't as big as he popped. People don't think of him as pop star. That's why, like, it's hip hop too. Okay. Like in hip hop, we look at our rappers like they have a edge to them. So if you're not an edgy rapper, a lot of times you get typecast gangster. All of that. Nick put mad people on and all that. Dude sold out shows and all that. And they still labeling as that a thousand baby mothers. You know something that some of these niggas looking for richer than most. Yeah. You know how tough it is to be. To be universally cool. Nah. You know, really what it is, yo, real talk, it's because Bow Wow, Nick Cannon, any of them types never ran around here trying to act tough. Yeah, that's it. When you not acting street or tough, the street and tough niggas make you corny. I'm not negating that. You're right. It is hard. Also, it's tough to be universally. It's a small sector factor of people that across the board is universally equal. Yeah, that's a huge misconception that everybody is cool. Most people are corny. No, no. So you, you, you, you. There's a middle area, though. It's not cool or corny. Yeah, like there's people that's just not cool, but they not corny. He's right. Ah, Ice is right. That's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the way hip hop looks at me. If you are not street, tough, gangster, all of that, you are corny. I'm saying hip hop is wrong. No, we, I, I get. But you're saying universally cool. You can be fine and exist without being cool. Yeah, it's a few. It's as long as you're not corny. There's a third lane that you been left out gangster role. Who. Who? Kendrick. When he first came out, he wasn't gangster and he's cool. Kendrick also rapped about about a lot of seeing a lot of that though. He rapped even though he didn't partake. He rapped about witnessing a lot of that. So it still resonated with a lot of people. Yeah, same with Nas. Still resonated more the hood side. Common is 1. Common is probably one of the few that don't get stamped Corny, but he ain't the most street cor who talked to the deaf girl in the window. Oh, come on. He backed the girl to the window like, oh, she can't, she can't even hear you. And you got that lifted. Me as a kid had a chicken nugget on the postcard. N he back. Surprise. Come on. No, Common is one. Yeah. I never think they call Common Corny. Yeah, no, he's one of the few. And n. Somehow I'm listening to y' all think I'm trying to say something different. They call Common. Cory, I get what you trying to say. I've never heard that. It's extremely hard just in the world to be unified. Yeah. What we talk about Common is great. And if we just having a talk, then cool. He's cool. But the word cool. Nah, Comet. Sorry, buddy. It's a small group of people. Who would you say. Do you know how much it take to be like cool? Well, for me, for me, nigga, you gotta walk to the fridge, get your water cool, slam it with your back, bong on some just fly shit. How you walk in is cool. How you pay a check in school for the waiter? Cool is every single like, damn, that is not going to miss a beat in nothing. Everything they do is. That's not true. That's not true. Who would you say is cool? That's not true. That's his definition. Oh, well, yeah, your definition, cuz. There are that are still looked at as kind of like universally cool. That had some moments that wasn't you mentioned. You said Jay Z and Nas. Jay Z's had some moments where he did not look cool. All that athletic. He did not look cool. And laughed at him. And it was all that was like out of context behind the scenes. It wasn't like he came out in the world. You catch a nigga, you gotta do everything cool. We gotta dive into the water cool. You gotta ride the jet ski. Somehow y' all changing what I'm saying again. Just stick to that example. No, but I just want to make sure. I'm Denzel. Universally cool. Jay Z ain't in the. He's cool. He do everything cool. I don't put him there neither. They said Jay Z and Nas. That's who I said. That's the same time. And Nas, to me is actually probably, as we thought about it, more probably the one who's like, to me, top, I ain't seen, you know, cool. Like, we talking about cool. And again, y' all can give your own examples. Please don't attack me. What's Park's arch nemesis? Jeff Goldblum. Legit Goldblum. Cool. Okay, he's cool. I don't. With Jeff, every single thing he do is cool. Idris Elba. Every single thing you've ever seen. Anything he say, he could be trying to play a goofy. Okay, Actors got it lucky, cuz they don't have to go out and perform, bro. Don't do that. Go to a musician. A's cool for sure. And off. Jayla. Kiss is cool. That's another Jadicus is cool. Yes. Okay. Can you give one in rap? Yeah. Like, who do you think of when you. When you think of. Let me think, let me think, let me think. Ghost Face. It's some that I thought was corny, but I mean, I mean that the world might think is corny. I don't think they corny at all. Like, I. I'm a fan of a bunch of. I'm a fan of Most Def. I think Most Def is amazing. I think Most is always cool. Yeah. You know, everybody body. Everybody won't say Most Deaf is cool. Cuz I think. I think Most Def is cool. Bleak is cool. Yes. That's another good one. Memphis Bleak. That's a good one. Not the biggest name. Maybe not the biggest catalog. Yes. Anytime you see him, well dressed, whatever he's talking about, he a good one. Even if he's trying to tell a bad story, he can't. He's cool, he's cool. He's cool, but whatever. I don't want fight to cool y' all today. Oh, can I talk about something uncool, please, like nobody else, you mark I say better than anybody on the planet. Go ahead. The bikers, the cyclists, bicyclists. What do you call them? Bicyclists. The bicyclists. Cuz when you say bikers you could be talking about cyclist. Cyclist, sure. Yeah. Are they both right? I think so. Bicyclists and cyclists. Yeah. The in New Jersey on Sunday who wake up up bright and early in the morning calling, get their group chat together and ride 9w ride a bicycle down major New Jersey streets, avenues, roads and highways. No, they take it over. They take it over as a conglomerate. Hey, hey. Other. Other hoods out there listening. I don't know if y' all are going through this. Maybe it's a Garden State thing, but this wellness tip, this health and wellness tip that everybody's on and over here been happening for a while. No, no, no. Actually over here, that's. That was happening before the health and wellness really took over. Yeah. Cause Everybody can't afford $12,000 bikes. Them bikes ain't cheap. They're not Ebro. And them envy Jonathan Immani, Tumor, all them got they eight and $9,000 bikes. But you had the U names drop the whole clip because it's a black. It's a black bike ride club around here in this neighborhood. And they didn't invite you? I'm not a cyclist. But you don't even drive. You think you gonna ride a bike? No, but I thought it was a crew of people trying to get into it. Can you ride a bike? No. All jokes aside, it really is. Yeah, I could ride a bike. When was the last time you rode a bike? Like a bicycle? Yeah, yeah. N. Not in the gym. Five years ago. Oh, okay. Oh, that's not. That's better than I thought. Not an electric one. And boy, was I mad. Why? It was a standard bike. The fucking mom got this stupid old ass used bike. I don't know where she got this bike for. You remember that bike bike downstairs. I go down there, I try to be healthy. I take the bike, the bike got some gear that I can't work. Oh, I think that's when we first got on the pod. Did you wear a helmet or. It's stuck or whatever? I had a helmet. Yeah. So I start riding the bike down and I go. I go a little bit because whatever gear was on, I could cook. And by the time I got to sabor or two miles down. It was on a different gear here, and I couldn't turn it back, so you had to use your. It was tough. So you need a $8,000 bike. Thousand dollars bike. I'm never doing this again. Helmet on, but that is fire. But anyway, back to these bike riding. I want to talk to y about the. The. The cyclist blinker, which is a nigga on a bicycle taking his hand and doing this in front of a moving vehicle. I think you're supposed to respect. No, you had. You ever took driver's ed, but they teach you that. Driver's ed? Yes, they do. They took you that? Yeah. They teach you one of this, this, this, and this. Wait, when do you take driver's ed School. That's all right. Eleven grand. They teach you that when you go to is lame. That's corny. Should have been out robbing niggas and breaking the houses. Learn how to drive in Dr. You corny. And see, and that's what I mean about is it cool? And that is absolutely. There's nothing cool about learning how to drive from driver's ed. Okay? Nothing about it. You're not learning how to drive. You're learning the law. You're learning to get a discount on your insurance. Yes. Unless you went to one of them schools that had a car. But in the hood, you the rules. Philly, we a had drivers. You go to driver's ed. They didn't tell you it was easy to leave school. I wish they would. I'd have bounced out of here. How you got your license? Boone Farm is out. Huh? How you got your license? I was driving without my license. Like all the real that I know. Like all of the real that I know in my life, you end up getting it. You went to get. I went up there, I stole Dub B's car, Drove to see some work in a storm. Felt like I had it under control and went up there. Man got my. What are you talking like? Like a real would. There's a process. You can't just walk up there and say, yo, I want my license today. I got a car from my mail driver. Get a license. This ain't got a license. Now, that's the truth. Ask him to see it, Joe. Let me see your license. He does have a license. No, you don't. Oh, y' all real slow. It was a PA first to get your permit. Non driver stupid to think that this man don't got a license. He didn't have a license for a long time. In fairness. Hey, y' all don't try to act new. I don't like this new you, y', all, it's not new. It's been about 16 years now. You didn't have a license. You did not have a license for 16 years. Who you talking to? 10 years. I don't think it's been 10. It might been 10. It said license since 2023. You were on this pod talking about going to the class. It literally says since 2023 on, like right there. No, actually, I'm lying. How old is Lex? Eight years. I had like this be in here acting like, nigga, this guy is crazy, son. You had to take the five hour class. I told. I went to take the permit test. Oh, when it was time to get the light, I told that story on it. Yeah, yeah, I told that story. I almost killed one of them little white boys. You passed the permit test. Wait, you was 38 taking a permit test. Yo, you passed a permit test. For us to go, you have to take. You have to retake the permit test. Yes. If you're licensed more than 10 years, you gotta retake the permit test from scratch. So I went up there. No studying. I know how to stay. I'm just saying. I know how to drive. I did it before. But doing it when you're 16 or 17 is way different than doing it how many feet from the hydrant. Answer the question. What? Did you pass the written test on your first go? No, I failed. Cause you didn't know this. But fuck driver's end, though, you know what I'm saying? Cause you didn't know know this. 50 something questions. Whoa, whoa. Stop the presses. It's a million questions in that. No, it was a million questions. But anyway, when I went back, real rules, man. Body. Hey, you got somebody take it for you Paid. Come on, man. He paid. Yeah, he paid. What he didn't do is take it himself. I went. I did take it myself, but I had to supervise it in. Oh, got you to walk by. She saved my. She saved a day, boy. She. Huh? She. Yeah, she saved. Saved her day. I don't like when you got to go do something and somebody there like doing their job. All the best, like cheap. Come on, get money. That's when you hope somebody recognize you just to get the hook up. Yeah. Anyway, so yes, I do have a license. And congrats. Them cyclists. Y' all going to get hit. Y' all going to get hit. Playing around, putting your arm out in front of somebody like. Like me. You're lucky I ain't driving. They want you to wait for them. Like, if the signal say turn, they want you to wait for them to pass. No, it says turn. You wait. You slow the fuck down. They have a nerve. They have the nerve to have an attitude. I fucking open the door on one of you niggas, I swear to God. I open the door on one of them niggas. I had an attitude. When the bike cyclist dude gonna cut off my car, we in an Escalade. He slam on the brakes. My driver. Oh, my God. Wait, what do you do doing? Hit the gas. We're faster than the car. We're strong. I mean, we're faster than bike, dude. We're stronger than bike, dude. We can bike dude. Up them bike. Wait, hold on. I mean, if we in a car. Oh, they fight. I'm saying them. They be waiting for a moment. Yeah, they wait. Them is a gang. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The other bicyclists would jump you with that. And I hate to tell you, a lot of from the street, street reform back in the day, I actually know a few. It ain't like back in the day. Not in Manhattan. I wasn't in Newark. Billy and them around here, a lot of are street. He's not wrong. Does my license plate know that? Easy. Does my license plate know that? Your nose might know that when you get out. After you. Why would I be getting out? Why would I be. You hit him. You ain't going to pull over? No. What is he talking about? My girl, pull over. You got it. No, you got it. What else is going on? What else is going on? What else is going on? Can we talk about Amber Rose? Oh, what, she did find the. Not anymore. Not to me. Can your behavior change your looks? Yes. Yeah. See, y' all look for the wrong things in women these days. I'm with you, Parks. You never had one woman like. They don't change the looks of me. They just make change. How? Yeah, how I look, how. How I deal. It still don't make. It don't. It don't make you ugly. Yeah, it can. It can. It make you not not as attractive. You might not be ugly, but I'm not as attractive to you as I once was. Some people could be downright ugly. I'm not saying her, but it can be Nia Long could walk in here with a maga hat, a pitchfork. Did you see her, though? Yeah, I did. She looks amazing. Can we pay some respect to her? Yeah, we need, like, a knong appreciation for her. Hey, give me some fine Chocolate that just never. She is good. Oh, yeah. Kelly rolling up. Shout out to y', all, yo. Yeah, shout that golden gram. Oh, is you into that? You back into. You back into gold. Back. Back into blacks. I never not been into blacks. Nah, we ain't playing the goofy joke. I never not been in the black. Follow me. But cheap. They look amazing. Beautiful. Like spring. All right, you horny, girls. I have it. You gotta be horny. And I never tell my kids they have to work 10 times harder because they're black. Yeah, you have to work just as hard as everyone else. And if you want to be. If you want to be better, you know, like, let's say the NBA for an example. If you want to be like a real all Star. Yeah, you got to work harder. Yeah. But you have to work just as hard as everybody else. Your skin color in a America is not LeBron James. What the. This is your potter of the money, yo. So hold on. Wait real quick. No, she said some more. Oh, okay. She said some more. You think that's wrong for her to teach her children that? Just. She's saying that. I think she just work as hard as everyone else. That's what I saying. So the second part of what she said I agree with. And I've said up here, that first part. She sounds like, crazy. You shouldn't work harder because. No, she's saying that she's not going to tell her kids, you have to work harder than everybody else just because you're black. And she's kind of wrong in that. You think even today. Today. I think today in today's society. You still still think that? Yes, I just want to make sure. I think that there's an uneven playing field for us. And I think that her second part is the part that I agree with her on. You can still be great and be black. I'm not gonna ever tell my kids that you can't accomplish whatever you want to accomplish as a black person in America. But he cut it off. But the first part of that, she's wrong. And I think she might be wrong because she never experienced it if you never experienced it. And I don't know what her walk of life is. I do know that she was pretty all her life. And she started dating very rich men early on in. In life. And so because she did date rich men that were multimillionaires early on in life, she might have never had to face some of the adversity that a lot of people have to. Especially in a corporate setting. You understand what I'm saying, so a lot of black women in corporate America are having to bust they ass 10 times more than their counterparts. So she can't make that claim because she's never had to experience that. I'm always. Oh, I thought you were saying you disagree, nigga. Yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead. I was trying to pull up a quote, but go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm saying that I feel like I didn't look at it that deep, right? Surface level. So that's where I can go wrong at. But I'm saying I don't think there's an issue of somebody teaching their children to not put up a color barrier. That's not. I agree with that. Like, you'll go out there, bust your ass just like everybody else, and you can get whatever you work hard for. That's how I took. She said that. I want to ask a question. They don't have to work harder than their white counterparts, is what she initially. She is teaching her kids that they're black. Right? Cause some people be like, I'm not teaching you not to see no color. And all of that stuff. That's how I took it. That's how I took some of that. And that, I think is wrong. You have. Because there's systems out there. Either you teach your kids to black that they're black, or the world is gonna teach your kids that they're black. They gotta know. I was looking at it just like, yo, there's no color barrier. That's how I looked at it. That's how I thought she was teaching her kids. But there's a difference between saying there's no. There's like, there is a color barrier. You can get past it. There is no color barrier. And then there's like, I don't see color. Okay, like your kid. Yeah, I don't see color thing. I don't want. And everybody, Everybody seemed to be responding to her as if she said all three of them things alternately. You know what I'm saying? I was trying. That's why I was trying to get a sense of what she was actually saying. Joe, cut the clip. I'll say the end part is the part that I think is what was the end part? The end part was basically her saying that she's not gonna tell her kids, even though they both black, that they can't be great, and that all of the things are not afforded to them in the world, kinda is what she said. And that's dangerously close to saying race don't matter. No, it's not. I think it's close to it. I disagree. I think that as black people and we've. Me and Joe have had this fight. Me and Corey have had this fight. I don't think that you should tell your kids that they can't be great. You can be great. Now. The hurdles that you might have to jump may have. We've never had that fight. No, listen to what I'm saying. The hurdles that you might have to jump will have to be higher. I think when we start telling people that the systems set in place are preventative from them being great, I think that's a dangerous fight message. I think that's a dangerous message to send to your children. I agree with you. I'm saying, though, if she's saying that. If she's saying that you don't have to run faster or jump higher, she's wrong. And I'm saying that's the part that's dangerously close. Yeah, but I'm saying that's dangerous close, saying race don't matter. And I think, again, there's a lot of privilege involved in that. The fact that she's racially ambiguous and probably hasn't been black her whole life, hasn't identified as black. She don't really identify as black now. Right. Well, this is what Jocelyn smacked the shit out of her over on College Hill. And, you know, a lot of us was riding with Amber. Cause you know the homie. I like Amber. I know Amber. I like Amber. Yeah. My problem with. With some of this, hey, everybody raised their kids how they want. I'm not sticking my nose in nobody household. What you put in the oven is what you end up getting out the oven. That's totally on you. My problem with this is I only know Amber Rose from black spaces. See, I don't mind nobody being maga. I don't mind nobody with their own views. But why y' all don't never say it sooner? We know Amber from Philadelphia. We know Amber from Kanye West. We know Amber from music videos. We know Amber from Wiz. Yeah, it ain't no white around. So cool. Now you mag it out. And now, yeah, you on your whole, I got it, but why not say it sooner? But that she would say, but look, I'm sorry. She has said that she seen the light, that she was a liberal, that she saw the world a certain way. She was doing slut walks, all that stuff, you know? And now she said at some point she saw the light, and now she sees the world very differently. She Had a political conversion. And I would say that's pretty convenient when I hear that. It's kind of my same take about billionaires not being for. For us. I think once you start playing around in certain rooms and getting around certain people, your ideologies change and you start to adapt that. Yeah. So you could call it seeing the light. I call it you're playing over there in another sandbox, and now you're drinking that Kool Aid. But my question is, why are you in that sandbox? So that I could get that Kool Aid. Right. That's my goal. I want to get over there. So what do you say to the people that don't want their children going into society or different places and having this grudge against other ethnicities? Right. So if you instill that. Because I've watched that coming up. If you instill that in your head, like, yo, if you instill that in their head, watch this, watch that. Opportunities aren't fair. Sometimes you go into an environment with this grudge already, and sometimes that can hinder you in certain situations. So what would be the middle for you, Mark? What, prep you? Say it again. Or prep you? Mm. Yeah. It's all about how you. How you raise the kids. You know, sometimes when I give talks to young black men, I say, there is a conspiracy against you. The world doesn't see you as smart, as talented, as moral, as healthy, as principled, you know, as capable, as deserving. There's conspiracy to lock you up. There's conspiracy to put you on drugs. There's a conspiracy to kick you out of school. I said, the question is, are you gonna be part of the conspiracy? But doing these things right? So I begin with the structural part, and then I say, yeah, but you not going to school. You helping a conspiracy. You get what I'm saying? You dropping out, you not taking care of your children. You're doing these things that lots of people do. I'm not pathologizing black people. I'm just saying there's an opportunity here for us to see the game and then make a different choice. I think if you raise your kids like that, they don't grow up hating other people. They grow up saying, there's something out here, and I do have to run faster, and I do have to jump higher. That's the read. That's the reality. I was gonna say, even if we strip all the racial aspect away from this and distribute down to barebone, why would you tell your kid that they gotta work just as hard as everybody else, right? I don't even understand that. Pushing mediocrity to your kids. I just don't get it. I just don't. I agree. Say it again. Why would you wanna teach your kids to work as hard as everyone else? Okay, well, that's a whole nother conversation. You should be outworking people. Just, that's what you be outworking people. In your attempt to be great, in your attempt to separate yourself from the pack, in your attempt to ascend past the rest of the field. Like why that's that participation trophy argument. It's funny that she can only understand that when it comes to being an athletic all Star. I don't want to disrespect the lady. Yep, that's. That's when. That's pretty interesting. That's when it was identifiable to her. Which again, I don't know the lady and I don't want to be disrespectful to her, but that's where you see people working harder. Because she may have never been in a corporate setting, she may have never been in a business setting where you seen people busting they ass working 16 hour days, 12 or 14 hour days. She might have never seen that. So the only time it was relatable to her was when I might have been dating an athlete and I saw the extra that they put in when they doing two and three a days and all that other shit. So then it became identifiable. It's people that work extra hard in corporate, it's people that work extra hard in school. It's people that school didn't come easy for them. They did the tutors and they did all of the extra shit where they had to work harder. You understand what I'm saying? So people that came from impoverished neighborhoods where they had to work harder. And even in the sports context, she should get that. I mean. Cause she said she got it in sports. Well, she said in sports you have to work hard. Hard. No, she said if you want to be an all Star, you gotta work hard. Then you have to work harder, right? To be better than average. But to get average, you have to work as hard as everybody else. And it's like even in sports, if I come out of a D1 program and I come out of a D3 program, I don't have to work just as hard. I got to work harder. You know, if I'm undrafted, if I'm 5 foot 10, trying to play in the NBA, where there's like one person who's below 6ft tall, like you got to go harder and structurally, that's what we're positioned. How can we accuse blame her? You can. Can only teach what you know. Yo, are you down with this lady? No, I'm not. Why you keep like, what you think that's a good thing? You can only teach what you know. Speak on it then. Yeah, you can't. She. She. This is what she knows. But it's not over there co signing the slut walking, all that that she was doing when she was out there looking like a doof. Y' all was good. And not saying the. I'm not saying the was that. I'm talking about I love sluts. I'm not saying the slut. I'm not shaming the slut book. I'm just saying that certain things that she was doing, we was co signing oh, you look good and all that shit. I'm saying that you can only teach what you know. Yeah, but Flip, I don't. Nothing I don't want to give her. What do we expect from somebody that has tunnel vision, that looks at something? Because she went. She grew up in South Philly in the hood. Hood with where there was like. I literally worked at the high school she went to. Right. Some people want to get away from that Mark. Cool. But that. You can still. Please listen. Just listen to what I'm saying. I'm saying she grew up in the heart of South. She grew up in the same hood that Beanie Siegel up. Grew. Grew up in. Okay? There's no way she didn't look around at that reality and see what niggas got to do to be successful. If she grew up in the suburbs, I would say, sure. If she grew up in. In across. In middle America, in the flyover state, maybe. But she grew up in the same place where everybody she grew up with goes to jail. Everybody. She goes up gets shot. Everybody. She grows up doesn't get good jobs. There's no way that she looked at all that and said, every single person I'm surrounded to isn't successful just. Just cause they didn't work hard. You know what I'm saying? Like, she seemed too much. She's too smart to be that dumb. That's what I'm saying. And that's why I read it cynically, you know, And I'm saying it to me to be clear audience. I'm saying she's not dumb. I'm saying she's being obtuse and she's act. And because now it's good for business. And that's the cynical part. I Don't necessarily know that. It could be purposeful. I don't know her. Right. It could be purposeful, but it could just be. She was a pretty ass woman her entire life. She got into certain things early on in life and she has not had to face some of those adversities. When she's on the set of those music videos, she ain't notice ain't no dark skinned people. She ain't noticed that there was no non racially ambiguous people on the set. I mean, just the world she's into. You know what I mean? When she's hosting a V1, you ain't know two other black people here in the whole room and in the corporate office, all of them white. I mean, you think that's just a coincidence? Like even in the places she's in the evidences, the evidence is there if you want to see it. And because she has, because she's had a different political position before where she's almost articulated this stuff, it's hard for me to believe that she unremembers those things. Y' all think Trump beat enough of this? Which one? Yeah, say, get to it. It. Yeah. Do. Do y' all think that Trump beat Amber? No, it was Trump. Trump. Oh, That, that I'm gonna say no. Main Trump. Y' all playing a different. Y' all playing a different game up here. Big Dawn. Y just came home from doing like 40, I think. Don't say anything. It ain't. They can't sue you for asking a question. I don't know. Did Donald Trump Trump smash? That was my question. It's not a wild. I think the answer is no, but I don't think it's a wild question. I don't think. I don't think so. Yeah, probably not. You're. You're right. Yeah. I don't know where the sudden change in thinking and crowd could be from. It's probably just the money, right? It does, it does work. It's a motivator. It'll do it. A motivator to listen, man. All right, back to Jesse Smollett. Jussie Smollett made an appearance recently in celebration of Gay Pride Month and he performed. And the Internet had a blast with it. I'm not sure why, but I have Mark here to let me know. Hey, this is the music he played when he bust out. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Got a red belt on white tank top logos. Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute. Little gold chain, little black slay Got the gay back up there. Oh, whoa. Oh. Between that and the Bankhead bounce, I was. I was in. Wait. This is my part right here. Hey. Hey, Little Tony. Tony, Tony, Little. Feels good. Hey. Go, Jesse. Go, Jesse. Go, Jesse. Hey, E. I'm a Senate. Go, Jesse. Go, Jesse. Hey, wait. Oh. I thought he was giving a speech at the end. Why my clips keep cutting off at the end. He was like, thank you, guys for supporting me through my. Whatever the fuck he said. He said. I feel he gave a really powerful ending to it. Yeah, I'm not hurting anymore. Yeah, that's what he said. I'm not hurting anymore. And that really made me feel good. I. I was. I'm a huge fan of the Smollett family now. Me, too. I love Journey. It's changed my commentary. I love Journey. That Journey. It changed your journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've changed my commentary. It's just so horny. I've changed my commentary on this. So I'm happy to see that Jussie Smollett is doing well. He's not hurt anymore. I was worried about him for a minute. He stayed away from all subways. Subway, the sandwich. I know. What you got it. We got both ears. Just to be safe. Both double on top. Just to be safe. Oh, y', all. I was. I was worried about it. I bumped into him maybe, like, a couple weeks ago. Oh, wait, You a friend. He's a friend of yours? We're cool. Yeah. Mark Santa is his man. He's one of the shadiest people I know. Yo, you definitely said that. He's the shadiest person I know. I think he is. I like Jesse, you know, I supported him. I respect him. I stood with him when I thought the police were overreaching. A lot of people out here to lock up. He wouldn't be at the top of my list. No. Sometimes the way they come up with the list is really unfair. Yeah, but they execute the motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I looked at him, he looked sad. Actually, last time I saw him, something about a month ago, and I was worried about him. So when I heard him say he's not hurting anymore, I felt a lot of relief. Did you tell him how were you? Jokes is right. The. So, yeah, they all right there. What's the joke? The relief, but it's fine. What'd you say? The conversation went well. We talked really fast. It was my wife's birthday. We were walking out of the restaurant faster than you normally talk. Yeah. Cause he came up behind us. Okay, nigga, even stutter fast and no. And he was just like, hello, Mark. And I turned around, he had like a dark hoodie on. It took me a second second. And I was like, does he watch the show? Did I say something I forgot about? But then he gave me a big hug and we talked. It was it. It was love, man. He just. He just seemed sad. I remember thinking like hand placement on a hug. He hugged you from the back. Stand up. I said, he walked. You was rubbing, rubbing mar. And I'm like, not in front of my wife. Jesus. Mark had the spandex graves looking like they painted on. Did you try this ribeye, y'? All? Y' all are immature. No, no, no. It was in all seriousness. You immature monsters. It was good to see him. It was good energy. He seemed. That's good. But he. But he just seemed. I remember walking away thinking like, he's had such weight on his shoulders though, last. Oh, you thought that walking out of the restaurant. Got it. Yeah. I was leaving the restaurant, dinner was over. And I remember thinking like, he's had such weight on the shows last few years. I hope he's taking care of himself. I hope he's healing. I hope he's doing well. So when I saw the performance and he said, I'm not hurting anymore. I was like, that's dope. That's dope. I'm glad to see him in a good place. I'm glad to see him having fun. You know, I've gone to see a couple of his shows and you go to a lot of shows. Mark, you a fucking dumb. Mark is a double agent. And I'm gonna put an end to the Mark because in our. The Mini Rivers Festival. The Mini Rivers Festival, Mark be hired by the up and we be. He bring it up like he down with us and we going to clown him down. We was clowning for 45 minutes. And then Mark get on air and be a double agent. I did not clown Jesse Smollett off here. What did I say? You know what? You have full range. Say whatever I said. Then if I clown. What did I say? Hand the guy whatever I say. Could say I wasn't here cuz it didn't happen. He just be making up. He clowned him, but in the political way. No, you can't. Cuz he did it with his facial expressions. And here you want to talk about Jussie? That's just my face. Stupid shitty. I will say the note threw me off. That note he sang threw me off a little bit. Jussie, check back. We Glad you not hurt no more. But that don't make for the greatest pod banner. Check back in when you come up with another state scene scheming when you come up with another vicious plot for my though to rob the taxpayers of their hard earned money. Oh, Lord. Hey, what precinct we take, taxpayers? Hey, let's take it to another precinct. Let's get them to work. Yo, I will never understand the. That's one of the dumbest lies ever told. This is what gets me, though, about people. Whatever you think about just a small, innocent, guilty, whatever, telling the truth. Lying. Whatever y' all think. Lying, lying, lying. It wasn't a question. No, that was pulled my bad. No, people seem to have a special, like, animus for him that I think just be od. Like, of all the people we could go after, I just. To me, it's just not worth the energy and time. You know what I mean? Do I believe him? No. Do I think that happened? But like, this lie every day, like that, that ain't the one that I find I'll still be chasing down. That's what happened because of his lie. That pissed. I'm gonna speak for myself. That pissed me off. Because straight black men became under attack because of this nigga's lie. And nobody walked it back. Nobody. It was. There was fam. I could go pull the article up right now. I will show you the Vibe article that was written. And it was a lot of people sent echoing this sentiment. Your homegirl being one of them. That what the straight Batman. That because we didn't speak up for him, we didn't stand by him when we didn't believe him. My, my, re. First of all, to me, the whole controversy lasted, like 72 hours. It don't matter. All right, you lying now. That's not true. No, it didn't. That's what I'm saying. Before you say it's not true, listen to what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't think there was a long protracted period of time where the bulk of black people were in. I didn't say bulk of black people. I said I wanted. Okay, go ahead, go ahead. Well, I think the bulk of black people were protecting him, defending him and believing him. I think almost from the beginning, niggas was like, I don't believe this. That's not how it went. That's not how it went. I was there. I'm just saying I read it differently. Niggas thought that he got abducted and some by Maga. Yes. So why would straight Black men be under attack from that. That's part because were not necessarily coming out. Wasn't vocal enough defending him. Defending, yes. Riding for him, standing up for him. That's how you experience, too, that people going up the straight black men for the Jesse. Jesse Smollett thing. Well, there were actual articles written. I'm not. I don't have the take that ICE has. But ICE is not incorrect in what he's saying. No, no, I'm not saying article, but I'm. I'm saying to you, it was longer than 72 hours. No, we were talking about two different things. I was saying. I thought you. I misunderstood what you were saying. I was saying like. I thought you were saying something different. I was talking about people not believing him. I don't think people in general, once they got the facts of the case from the beginning, people were skeptical. So I don't think there was this long attack on black men. But even to the extent that there were people saying, you should stand with him, I didn't think that was exclusive to black people. To me, I thought they were saying, Mark, it wasn't many people skeptical. I think that's where you misremembering. I actually was probably the first person, the very first, you stood out. Jussie Smollett's attack and the dangers of straight black men's silence, again, that's been a thing. I'm not disputing that. People say lie. I don't call that an attack on straight black men. I'm not saying that. No, again, I'm not disputing. The articles were written about it and people saying we should stand up. There were people saying that everybody should stand up. They were saying that white liberals should stand up. They were saying lots of people should stand up. But to me, the period where people believed him was so short. And that's what you say I'm misremembering. Maybe I am. I don't. I don't think so. How long was it? Joe was a dick for coming out saying that he lying. He was the first one. Joe came out and said he was lying and got vilified for it. Okay, so you said it was a week or two. Yeah, about that. It was. It was longer than that, man. It was a lot longer than that. All right, fans out there, let me know, because I don't remember being that long. I feel like people almost instantly didn't believe. No, that's not true at all. It was so long that I was able to revisit it on State of the culture. Like as facts kept coming. Coming out. I was like when started getting the. The videos of the going to buy the. From the hardware store and all of that. That's when the fact started. How long after that was it? I mean, I don't know. Again, I don't have a timeline. It was years ago. But I know that's when started second guessing it. Like it was a while. It was a story. Yeah, I know it was a story for a while. I just felt like people weren't believing it. That's all I'm saying. It felt like the fact. The more the facts came out, people weren't believing it. No. Okay. Not at all. Right. At. At all. Cuz that was peak like believe victims regardless of anything. That was like. Don't question. It was a racially that too contentious time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just looking at the timeline. He got attacked on January 29th and the first in those Africans got arrested on February 14th. So it was like two weeks. Fam. We talk. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm just saying. So I just wanted to establish timeline for fans because I didn't. I was just trying to make sure. I understand. Understood it. I hear your point. I'm not disputing your point. I hear you. I received it. Two weeks is a very long time in social media and just media in general world. By the way. The point was why straight black men became under attack because of this is because he was a gay black man. And what they were saying, a lot of people were saying was straight black men are being quiet on it because there's some homophobia involved in that. Whereas had that been a straight man man and we seen this, people would have been standing up ready to call up their arms and. And. And get ready to protest. Not protest, but you get what I'm saying. They would have been riding more for him. But because it was. It's like it's. The homophobic aspect is let him go. I feel you. I feel he ruined elaborate lies. Elaborate lies used to be so fire. No, that was an elaborate. That was elaborate. That was a definitely elaborate lie. Are you crazy? Elaborate lie is one that's hard to figure out. No, no, no, no. You just had a lot of pieces to it. It's extravagant. Hold up. But it's extravagant too. Here people. Nooses. Yeah. Multiple locations. You're in Maga country now. You got it. Yeah, yeah. It was a lot. It was a lot. A lab. Elijah used to get you out of some shit, boy. Now they still do. I would know. No, I don't mean like. I mean public figures. Not us. I mean like politicians. All these people, they. They tell elaborate ones. You know what I mean? That's. That's the theory that if you tell a big extravagant lie, people will say it's so big that he can't be. No one will possibly make that up. They don't do that shit now. They don't give a. These. You said politicians. Yeah, politicians doing what they want to do. I stole it. And that shit don't work with your girl. Niggas be like, I stole it and right. Elaborate. Elaborate lies on. Work with your lady. See, you can't tell when you get caught. You got to tell one preemptively. If your lady. If you've been one for a long time, she knows. Cause nothing about none of your other days was elaborate. Now, the second bad details today. Yeah, it's tough, man. There's a trick to it. Yo. It's tough. And you. What are you telling me? I'm gonna finally get details? Just, you know, communication, right? Like, my flight got delayed back from the Caribbean and the airport was packed. That kind of shit. Nah, nah, nah, nah. My wife don't fall for none of that shit. She'll check the fucking flights in the Caribbean. She'll check. Do she. Do she really? No, but she will. Oh, my girl do. Yours does. If I say a flight was delayed or canceled. Shit, yo, I dated a girl one time that did that. Like, when I was like, yo, my train's late. My train really was late. I wasn't lying. I was sitting on the train texting her, and she was like, no, it's not. Check the train time. Something, something, something. And to me, that was so wild. I stopped with her after that. No, I didn't. I said, if I go to a month later. But that was. That was the seed. Yeah, it was still fire. Fire. It definitely bought her another month, but I was. But I knew she wasn't the one after that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got locked up. And she called the jail. She called the jail? Yes. Yeah, that's good. That one is actually a little more common than that. A. That's not that bad. Like. Like, that's concern. No, that's bad. Still, if I concern. No, it's not. To help you get you out. I'm calling to make sure you there. All right, I'm home. In there. But she calling to make sure I'm in there. Yeah, I'm not calling to get you Out. Just want to make sure you're there. N. I don't like that. That's just crazy. Yeah, you probably at the precinct. She didn't have to press 9. I was at whatever jail. Whatever that was on a hun. Was that over there by his trees on the nice little block? 131st. Whatever. Yeah. 131. 131. All right, so. Oh, can we real quick, since we speak in jails, Mark, I hate all your topics today, so. Really? Yes. You like the BET Awards? Wow. I thought you would have liked that. Go ahead. I wanna hear. No, no, no. You don't get it now. Speaking of jails. Nope. Mondami is allegedly called closing Rikers. Okay. It started before. What, like de Blasio started closing Rikers? Yeah, they all started closing Rikers. Did it come to fruition? Wait, is Mom Donnie really closing Rikers? Supposedly is. When you gonna come in and walk something to Mom Donnie's your back? What did I have to walk back? Let's go, Mom, Donnie's fine. Yeah, what did. Tell me. Be specific before we. We get feed the fire. What did I have to walk back? All right. When I said he wasn't gonna give free buses out to New York. I love you. Ish. I guess I'm not necessarily talking about the free buses. I'm more so specifically speaking about his tax plan with what he did with the people that make over $5 million owning multiple homes. Whatever the conversation was before that, I think you were on the other side of it. It. The thing I said about Mondami was he's not going to make buses free. No, you said more than that. I did not fight about the taxes. And Mark asked me, do you know what his plan was to make the buses free? And I said no. And I said, it doesn't matter what his plan was because I know he can't physically, fiscally accomplish that and lose the money that the MTA brings in on a yearly basis. I thought you said the same thing about the. The property tax. Property tax? Yeah, this property taxes thing. It was something along the lines of they not paying taxes anyway because they know the tax laws and all that. So you could implement all this new tax shit. It's still gonna. But I'm not gonna put it on you if you say you didn't say that. What I'm saying. What I'm telling you is I think if we want to talk about Mondame, I think that. I think tax the rich or persecute the rich. Don't work and I'm not rich. I just think it don't work. I think that socialism don't work. I think that, you know, some of these things don't work. I think that the system is flawed. The system is really, really, really flawed. And I think you gotta break it down, put it back together. But it's so hard to do with the amount of greed running around that no person could do it. You think he's doing a good job so far I haven't really dug into it cause I don't live in New York so I don't give a fuck. But I think some of the things that he has implemented are good and I think some of them aren't so good. Which ones you don't like so far I don't like the landlord freeze. Oh, the rent freeze? Yeah, I don't like that. I think that if you're going to implement a rent freeze then you also have to implement implement relief for landlords. So I think that if you're going to implement a rent freeze then you also got to stop taxation on landlords from the city because you now you expecting people to make less bread. I think that the expenses that come along with home ownership insurance goes up every year, maintenance goes up every year, all of these things go up every year. So if you're doing that to some people that aren't turning a huge profit, I think it's a misconception we start talking about landlords, that we think all of them are rich. Yeah. Some of y' all don't even get paid rent ice grandparents are landlords, they're retired. So that money is what they use to live. Yeah. So you essentially pulling income from these older people's pockets. And I think that that shouldn't just be across the board thing. Yeah, I think it should be individualized or a case by case basis. You can't just swipe all landlords for potentially making money because again like to isis grant grandparents, they used that money to survive. I think I agree with considering landlords, I think that a two year rent freeze is a good policy and I think the net gain of that is worth the policy. But I do think you have to think about the income of the people who own. I don't think that that's something that should be ignored. I think that that's a separate public policy that we should be thinking about. And he simultaneously said we going after all of the landlords that are not doing the proper things accordingly with their properties. So now you making me some don't I'm not obtuse. Some of these niggas is horrible. But some of these people are not horrible. So now you going to force me to do all of these repairs and all of these maintenance and at the same time freeze the amount of income that I'm taking. And I just think that that's unfair. Well, how would that apply to the landlord? That's not horrible. Because if I own the building and I'm not horrible, then I'm up to cold. So why would I care that he coming to make sure that we up to code? Because up to cold everything don't got to be egregious. Like it could be little shit that like some of these inspectors and shits be sticklers. So let's say I gotta fix something that might only be fifteen hundred dollars, right? Cool. I still have fifteen hundred dollar expense that I gotta incur. But now you freezing me making money. Every landlord don't make this overwhelming amount of money. That's a misconception. It's like every landlord is rich. Every landlord is a gazillionaire. And so it's fuck them, them, them. Because they all out here getting our money. Ah, that's the sentiment by the people. Like they are billionaires and they all gazillionaires and it's just not true. So I think it's a case by case basis that it should be conducted on. But case by case is tough. But I give it. I know what you mean. Especially in a city as populous, as densely populated, maybe they do something like if you own a certain number. I thought it was like for the buildings and I thought it was like landlords who have like the large buildings and stuff like that. I didn't think it was like the landlord like not saying you, but that just bought a house and put in there. I thought those that own like got 50 floors, 30 floors in their building. Boy, I'm in Jersey. But it. Because I'm with you there, I'm not really paying all that much attention over there. But I, but I'm in New York a lot. It appears like arousing success. Yeah, it looks like he doing every single thing that he said. It's probably my first time seeing that as a politician. Yeah, he's. He's making the city owned supermarkets. He pieced it up with the governor over there so they could get the right funding up. Like the, the rent freeze like everything that he said he looked like the daycare, the pre. Oh yeah, the daycare. Oh no, that was, that Was a big one. That was a big one. That was a big one. And a championship in 53 years. I mean. Oh, knock it off, Marcus. No, but seriously, yo, what he did when he jumped in the pool the other day with the suit on. See, I think I had people. I think his charisma is amazing. I think that he's an orator and I think that his charisma is just something that you can't teach. Even his speech for the Knicks, I had multiple older people call me to say that that might have been the flyest shit they ever saw a mayor do. What? Jump in the pool with them kids with the suit on. Oh, I ain't see it. I had a bunch of people say, nah, they can't fuck with him because of shit like that. But. And I think. But the difference between him, because I agree with people, how to get down with the people, it's the mix of charisma and policy at the same time. True. And he spoke to the needs of the people. Cause some people change policy and it's not what everyday people want. He changed policy in ways that are very populist. He helped poor people and he's likable and he's fun. Like, that's that Knicks game speech. He young. He's young. He's young. That's very important. Young, young man, handsome. Like there's just a lot visible. Just visible. I think having younger politicians in general across the board in this country will do a lot of good. It will. It should be an age cap the same. All these 60, 70, 80 year old dudes don't got the best of nobody. And not to get too much into politics just to tie it up. I mean, you saw last week, week all the candidates he endorsed won the State House. Also the congressional system they're giving him, though, I mean, they were getting people out of there that you thought you couldn't get out of there because of their positions on Israel, Palestine. He still was able to nail that too. So, I mean, he's showing that the country might be moving in a different direction, at least for the midterm elections. He gives a lot of people hope that the country could be moving in different, in a little direction at least. I'm just talking about for the midterm elections. I'm not talking about, I think, I think the country or the sense I'm going to sleep at some point. I swear to God. That's why I said tying it up. Let's talk about something else. Let's talk about Malik Beasley let's talk about Malik, and he might be my favorite. I want to try to have this talk with, like, it's tough to have grace in this talk. Yeah. So they put out the text messages of Malik Beasley and Ed Day Davis, who they said he owed some money to, and to pay it back, he was gonna go rig some games. They highlighted four games in particular. But, I mean, if you go back and just watch Malik Beasley tape, there's a lot of examples. They missed a few niggas caught some of that shit before all of this came out. A lot of people did. He was like, yo, yo, yo. You see that? They did when he caught that inbound and it hauled ass to the other end to get that dunk. That's my favorite video. He was like, oh, the line was eight and a half. Yeah, the line was eight and a half. Go look. That's as close to a smoking gun as I've ever seen from a gambler. No, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, the rebound, bro. Yeah, he hauled ass again. He told them dudes, go, go more on my rebounds tonight. But see, I went. Somebody I follow went back and. And watch that whole game. Not just how he went for that rebound, but how thirsty he was to get his rebound in his entire quarter to get that last rebound. He wasn't playing no defense. He wasn't even playing the game of basketball at this point. They were showing him boxing out his teammates. Oh, nigga, I need this. They showed his reaction when somebody else got the rebound. Like he wasn't even trying to inbound the ball no more. Did you see his reaction when he got the rebound? Yes, he was relieved. Yeah, keep the legs. My fingers. But that's the part where I'm lost at. Like, I saw some. Something that said some. Amani, you still eating McDonald's? My son. It's his son. Oh, okay. I'm about to judge him. And I eat McDonald's sometimes. That's too. That's too big for the kid. Why you give me a little double quarter pound? That ain't just for your son in there either. Nah, give me now. I want some Shop B is in that big bag, dog. I'm not going to lie. So I was like, damn, look. Yeah. Oh, that got a little tan. Some new McDonald's. You. What was we talking about? I don't understand how I saw something that went around saying the players that were arrested for this and facing charges for this made over $300 million. That's the part that's total earnings into me. Like you're earning. How many. But how many people was it? Why do you get it? Four so far. I have a theory. What a bunch. So far I only got a couple. That's 70 a pop. 75 a pop. D. They got that made some, like Measley made some money. I wanted him to beat this so he could come to the Knicks last year, but again. But they said Malik Beasley was losing so much money to them. Gamblers gamble on everything, bro. That's what it is. And when you got that gambling, they said he wanted. They on a plane playing cards or whatever it was and he owed. Now you owe this a bunch of money, yo. I don't have. I don't have that liquid right now to give you because we. We big balling. So I'm playing and now I'm in a hole. All right, well, I can show you how to get down. You can make some of that back and let us make some money off you. Right now. We make some money off you. You don't owe me. Your state is clean. Because they're already in the underworld. They're not. This isn't like the Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan city gambling. This is. We already in rooms with people. Yes. Who are in the underworld. The games themselves are illegal. So we already in that room when we lost 5 million round years now. Right. And then it's like, we want to get it back. Here's two ways. Here's two ways to get it back. Yeah. Either you pay it, which you don't have, liquid, without raising some questions, or you got to go in there and throw some games. That gambling addiction ain't no joke. Addiction is no joke. Addiction, period. Addiction, period. No joke, bro. No, but that gambling addiction because. Because if there were a way to beat addiction, and there's not. But if there were a way to, I would think it would involve 300 million. Like, if I had 300. If I had 100 million, if I had fucking 70 million people, I would change my. Your addiction should change. You say that. I think it's actually easier with your. If I had $300 million, I'd like to think that I could have a functional heroin habit and not go broke. But if you have $300 million and you gamble. Gamble. You just keep gambling. Like you just keep one turn. The house wins. It goes up, it goes up. And you're Competitive marriages, people have lost, put their pink slip up, down. Pink slips up, down. Like all types of shit, bro. It's really Bad. They got that office in every casino for a reason. You can go in there. Oh, you tapped. You need a loan. You got a marker? We got. You need a marker. Here, sign a house. What happened when you took the back there big free for the security company? Told the story. You gamble up for you? No, he did casino security. Security When? Get rowdy in there. I was in MGM a couple weeks ago. And the security. He watches the show. He loves the show. I actually shout out to you, was, where at MGM. Okay, and where's that at? In D.C. in Maryland. And the nigga came up to me, told me it's a star that was in there. You building a house in the mgm? No. Nigga came in there and told me that it's a star that we know he lost 14 million. It was either 9 million or 14 million that day. That day. Oh, yeah, I know who that is that day, bro. I was like, man, we sat here and made all these jokes and shit about Bruno Mars about owing all this money and why he had to do what he do. Had to. To do. Offset another one doing what he had to do. Like we. When you got that gambling bug, it. It got you and you got money. Bruno Mars and Offset were never going to jeopardize their music job. Like, y' all just gonna be in debt. Niggas gonna cut some of your fingers off. Niggas gonna make you perform in this Vegas club for the next seven years. But when you leave, you'll be able to make a song. Song. Distribute a song. Yeah, but these basketball playing around. P. Rose was so ahead of his time. Yo, I'm so mad at how they did P. Rose, but, yo, you say that. Tell you why. Yeah. What do you think they did Pete Rose wrong with? Like, how was he for the Lifetime Baseball Band? For. For. For. For making a winning bet. But see, my team is good. I know because I'm coaching them. The problem with that is, first of all, I don't think you should be gambling on any. Obviously, betting against your team is. No, I agree with you. Is a cardinal sin. I agree with you. He bet on his own team. To your point, which is fair. My concern is that I never. And I've looked pretty deep into this Pete Rowe shit. I don't know if he was betting spreads, though. Cause you could bet my team to win, but what if I bet my team to win by two and then I do something and now I'm giving up runs? You could still be affecting the outcome of games. You could still. You could still Be cheating the game, even if you're betting on your team to win. Or that would be. I don't know what Pete wrote. I thought he was just betting on his team to win. And I'm saying it's not clear. I'm not saying that's not true. I'm saying we don't know. Or that might be the time that I got caught. I might have bet on us to lose before. There's no bet to lose, though. I'm just saying. I'm just giving an example. Like, yo, dawg, I might. When shit get thick. See, I got Pete Rose. This is gonna sound nuts as being too much of a competitor. Arrogant, competitive. He's a real P. Rose. One of the great. He's him for real. He's him. He ain't Pete Rose in your imagination. Ain't going to bet on him losing. But that don't make sense. Michael Jordan, they said the Michael Jordan would be on the golf course drinking 10 and 15 beers and be up and we'll go. I bet you I have 40 tonight. They like. Yo, you drunk. What's up? Well, we saw Kobe bet the. About a free throw. On the line. On the line. The line. On the line. Half a million right now. Right now. That's still dangerous. Think about as a man. Think about this as a man. Just to give you another example, let's say he always bet that his team will win by the most possible. You're down nine runs. But he's so competitive and believes in his team so much, he keeps the starting pitcher in the extra. You see what I'm saying? Throw his arm out. He might be doing. The average manager at some point is going to concede a game for the long term. But if I bet on that game, technically, yes. I'm doing everything I can for my team to win. I don't. I wanted to make it sound like I condone what he. No, I know what you're saying. Okay. I don't. I'm just saying that we historically have said as long as you bet on your team to win, you're tech. It's almost like we put an asterisk next to that kind of gambling. Like, if you bet on your team to win, that's way better than betting on your team to lose. I see that in the big picture, and I agree with it. I get what you say, but I'm saying there are some dangers even in betting on your team to win. If I got a million dollars on my team winning, we down 10 runs. I promise You. I'm keeping my starting pitcher in two extra innings, even if it hurts his arms. Funny shit about Malik Beasley. He's nice. Yeah. Nice. Yes. One of the best shooters in the league. Yes. He's nice to the wrong niggas. I think that. And he was getting money. I think that. Had they. Did they clear Rozier yet? No, he ain't getting clear yet. He's making 22 mil. Like, you gotta know what you are willing to give up for yearly. 22. It wasn't 22. He was making $20 million a year. You gotta be in way over your head or you gotta be getting threatened on another level. Where is talking about kidnapping your family or something? And I don't think. Honestly don't think it got to be that bad. I think it worked for the first time, and it just became easy. Sometimes that's all it take, yo. All right, you know what? I owe this. Got away with. Let me do. I got away. That's it. And now you done. The snowball done roll downhill now. Now it's out of control. Okay? But in it becoming easy. As an athlete, you shouldn't want to embarrass yourself in front of your peers or appear to not understand the game in front of your peers. That Malik Beasley, when he. When he chipped, ran down the court with the layup because the spread was eight and a half to cut the lead from nine. You crazy? He should have told whoever he was dealing with, hey, I can't do this. Hey, we should lose so we could continue winning. Even if that's your scam. Scam. You can't go in a real game and look like that. You can't. You can't look like that. Got 5 million on that. He don't give a. I don't give a. About that. You got to take an L sometimes to keep a scam going. Agree. You got to take the L. Even if that. Even if that. Yo, that's. That's nuts. He. He bugged out. Then they had the text messages after he got the rebound from them. I guess it was a group chat. They had. It was a group chat. It was a group chat. Yo, he got a rebound with one 1.1 seconds. Oh, he did. Yo, we was about to be down so much money. No. And I. And I think. Because I'm not. I don't have in front of me. I think he said we was about to be down so many thousands. That's what it was. We about to be on so many thousands. That's where confusing. Oh, we talking about multi. Multi millionaire. I don't get it, man. I better come in here and give him the idiot of the year. War. It could have been a couple hundred thousand, but a couple hundred thousand at eight to one. Nine to one. You hear what I'm saying? Fifty thousand on the right bet at eight to one odds. See, this is different. Beasley and, and Rosier and them to me is different. From Pete Rose. No, not Pete Rose. Porter's brother, Johnte Porter. That's all the same. You was a bum. Not. No, he was a bum. Oh, you saying. Okay, he was probably shocked to ever play more than six minutes a game. He probably knew he wasn't about to be around too long. Hey, go ahead and risk it. Hey, Gamble, we ain't going to be seeing you too much. Beasley and Roger are nice. Been around nice. They nice. They could get a job if not in the NBA, in the Euro League, in the China League, any league. Why would you jeopardize your ability to be able to. Yo, when I used to be on some bullshit. And the stores, the stores know I'm coming in steal, and they're like, hey, all right, we catch again. You can't come in here no more. Well, no. Well, we gotta slow down now. Cause I wanna keep stealing from here. So it's very important that you don't catch me. Cause this is my favorite store to steal out. Check this out. Check this out. Joe. Now let's say something. You stole out of that store was because you owed it to somebody else. And they don't give a fuck. But you better come back with that item out of that store. Store. Now, you go in the store, they see you and you can't play that whole. All right, let me chill out. Let me let the scam go. Because if I don't come out with this item that these niggas need, it's going to be some real repercussions over here. And that's worse than me getting caught stealing. I'm not even about to put myself in the predicament with nobody that's about to break my legs in the event that I don't do something. Because chances are I'm not going to do something. And I like legs. Legs don't put themselves in there. You don't know them first. Yeah, you don't know. That is regular degular that you gambling with until you going, oh, hold it up. Mistake number one. True. Mistake number one then. But those be the ones you get the most. But we still talking about this different than we do other addictions. Like, because part we always talking about, we're thinking about the strategy of the scam. But yo, until I said it, Mark, I never even looked at it like a gamma addiction thing. Like he, he woke me up. I'm like, yo, this nigga's right. Cause that's the problem. And now I understand. Now I get it. Cause if somebody had a heroin addiction, we wouldn't be like, don't shoplift today. Don't shop. But I'm just saying we also wouldn't be like, why just shop us two days from now so you can keep stealing for heroin. We be like, nigga, heroin ain't waiting two days. Gambling at the addicts be the same way. Even when you in that scam, doing an extra rebound. Part of that is the scam, but part of that is the gambling part of it. And the rush from the gambling as the officer got shot, nigga, he was back in the casino. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that. It was rumors I would have went to the same casino the same night. It was rumors running around. And they wouldn't let Floyd leave Saudi Arabia. Yeah, Floyd Money Mayweather. Like when that get, it don't matter who the you are. And you got with these, with these, I think they'll let you win the big. Like you might bet 5 million and win some big. And then you may think that you could still do it and then they just get you. Wow, bro. I've gambled money, but that's why I won't gamble. Just cuz I know me like the casino. The casino look good. The is over there. Could smoke over there. Cigars is lit. They having the time, free drinks. Yeah. If I go over there in that and play one hand, that's the night I'm. I'm not moving. You ain't going to be if you couldn't plaster me away. They got ID Clear award the casino, that's currency. I ain't played that in a while, I declare. But I bet I'm good still. How much you want to put up? Nah, see, I don't play. I'm telling like, yo, we going to make this as simple as possible. War, high car, low car. My other thing is, sometimes we had to gamble in life cuz we didn't have it and didn't know where it was coming from. But now that we stabilized a little bit and legit. I ain't risking no legit money. Oh, havest thou heart. I. I don't again, you Got count on the person that you saying. Like they going into it, thinking that you go into it and they work one or two times. Now it's quick. This is quick money. And you get hooked on that. If you had my money, what is you gamble? Ish. I be. Yeah. You'd have a problem. Oh, ish. No. So that is a helper. Understand. I'm a gambler. That helps. Ish is a real gambler. Yeah. More, More of a cushion. More. Yeah. Cause now it's not diet. Oh, that's interesting. So you're a gambler, you're just risk reverse. No, I, I, I, my, my logic sets in because I got children and a home and you can't afford the laws. How you going to not right. You know, I mean like risk averse. Yeah. Bro, if I had your money. Damn. Ish, shut up. I'm serious. Yeah. I'd be going crazy. See, I'm the opposite. Yeah. I mean, I think a gambler, when I walk in a casino, which is very rare, I, I, I say how much am I willing to lose to? I don't ever go and think I'm gonna win. And I'm comfortable playing that amount as a l. If I, and if I make some, I put in my pocket and I walk away, I can play three hands of blackjack and walk away same. I play roulette, but I put it to like I put my initial money back and then whatever I do afterwards is plus. Yeah. And if I end up taxing. If I had 50 million, that number might be higher, but the principle would be the same. See, if I'm in the casino, I'm going to the Italian restaurant or the steak shop or the big diner where all the pores go eat together and you got to look at each other like a big, like a big eating station. The TV is up. You can sit there all day. It's like a lunchroom. Or I'll go to Balenciaga where the stores are to front on some window shop. Just walking around over here like I don't the actual casino. Yeah. All right. I'm in the building, bro. Damn. Right to that roulette wheel right there. No, I'm, I'm playing what's the most you won and the casinos? Yeah. 7,000 something somewhere around there. How much did you lost? How much did you walk out with other at seven. No, that's what I won. Oh, okay. Cuz, what's the most you lost in the casino? 1012. I was in Vegas one time. I was in Vegas one Time I was cursing them out because they wouldn't let me take no more money out the bank. Damn. You trying to get your back. No, it's my money. You me can't get no more out. But I mean, you were down is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You start chasing and then you'll get. They'll make some accommodations for you. But yeah, like gambling is bad, bro. Like, if I go to casino, you'll be like, tomorrow, yo, I'm. I'mma pull five. You'll pull 500 out in the beginning and you'll go back. That's how you be at the strip club. Same. See, I see. I don't do that in a strip club. I'm not throwing. That's why I. I'll try my best to not go to the. Now I got it a little more under control. I don't care what you doing your best. We heard you already too much Joe in his show, man. You try to do your best to what? It actually sounded interesting. We're talking about strip club. Calculate risk. Oh, to not. To not go to the boxing fights that me and Cor be wanting to go to. Because. Because it's not that you got a problem. You might get paid a 30, 40 to go to the boxing. Cool. But what that casino look like on that. On that weekend. Got it. I gotta get down there. I gotta see what it feel like. Get a little bit of that on you. Slim Thug just walked by man Tall. I'm gambling. We doing. You talking about man, bars is shack is here. No. Hey, hey, bro, blow on it. I gotta make a movie out this mother. Sorry. So I rather just not jumping on your ass. I'd rather not. I'd rather not do it. Rather not do it. Smart discipline to know not. You know what? I'm not even gonna play like that. Anybody don't have it. Actually, to anybody out there that has a gambling problem, 1, 800 gambler. Yo, how much you want? How much you won? They say it on everything. And we should say it too, as being responsible. Okay. How much you won before? I won. Won a couple weeks ago. I think I won like 4, 800. That's it. I think I got the gambling number. Memoranda. The suicide hotline. All right. Logic. Lost all your money. Are you alive? You bitch? Why you think the hotel windows don't open? Yeah, why you think? Hey, I'm about to say lose all your money, but yeah, it's connected. Yeah, it's connected. Yeah. Y' all teaching me today. War. And the hotel windows don't open because of white domestic violence. Since you're asking me, that's not why. It is. Yeah. Shoot the window out and start picking off. It's white domestic violence. It's white. Yeah, it was like that before that. Huh? It was like that before white domestic violence. You know, Billy. White terrorism. No. You mean terrorism. No, no. You mean a white dude beating his wife. Yes. Yeah. Push out the window. Yeah. Cause y'. All. And domestic. And. And domestic terrorism. I thought you meant to say y' all was talking about two different things. I just try to clarify that white people don't need balconies. You want to go. You want to see the ground? Yeah. They treat you differently. I was saying white people taught you white people don't give a park. You want to go talk to your grandmother, I'll send you right to her right now. Yo, that's a trigger warning. Trigger warning. They say crazy when they argue black domestic violence in them buildings. The go. Go to the soda machine. I You walk out, go get some ice with the bucket. Come out later when we get home. Let me get away from that window. Yeah, that's stupid ass white. That's stupid. And. And rest in be. It's because it ain't funny. But that stupid white. Yeah. Yeah, I'm mad about that. Wait, that did what? The. The country. The country festival went out there and did that. Stupid. Yeah, I'm mad about that. Yes, I'm mad about that. I get mad when people are centralized somewhere to have a good time. Time, listen to some music, vibe out. You ever went to a concert, Know that feeling you get? Yeah. You shouldn't have to worry about. You shouldn't. You shouldn't have to worry about none of that at a concert. I understand you hurt by it. You mad or. No, I'm mad. Hurt. All the feelings you could have. I didn't seen the doc. They didn't seen this put. Putting the gun together, the bag, walking in, not being checked all this on. They got metal. Metal detectives in the schools. But a could walk up in the hotel and just load some and kill a bunch of people. I think that's up. But that I do. I do. Joe, there's a video you were showing me before the show started that I thought we should talk about. I thought we should talk about Chris Johnson while we were on Malik Beasley. We should. Oh, man. Oh, God. Chris Johnson. CJ2K, one of the greatest running backs and probably the greatest. One of the greatest fantasy running backs. Oh, for sure. For sure, for sure. But one of the greatest running running backs of all time recently came out and did an interview with his wife where they talked about his health condition. And he has als. Als, which I admittedly don't know very much about. But Chris Johnson is 39 years old. I'm gonna play this video. In this video, he is in the chair. The voice you hear is coming from the chair and the screen and the, you know, the automated shit that they fucking loaded his voice into. But this is just extremely sad, and my heart goes out to Chris Johnson. Let me find the clip. Here we go. That's fast. Super fast. He's one of the fastest 40s ever. Yeah. Why do you want to share this now? Because if sharing my story helps even one person get diagnosed sooner, inspires more research, or gives another family hope, then it's worth it. Johnson says he was in the prime of his life, working out daily. This is from Good Morning America. Shout out to Michael Strahan. Until ALS changed everything. Let's go back to last year. When did you notice that something was off? I first noticed weakness in my right hand. At first, there was little things, like my grip didn't feel right, and I wasn't as strong as I've always been. His wife, Brittany, thought it was something much simpler. Brittany, what did you think it was at the time? I thought because of football and, you know, his career, that it had to be something with that, maybe a pinch nerve or something along those lines, but never als. That's when I started crying because I thought the same thing about your condition. We hoped it was something else. But after thorough testing, they finally came down with a diagnosis of als. They told us about a medication that might extend life by a few months. Then they told us to get our affairs in order. It was hard hearing that. But after watching Good Morning america and seeing Dr. Merrick with Eric Dane, we reached out to her. She was willing to. To think more creatively, offering experimental treatments that might help and advance research. And again, in this video, Chris Johnson is smaller than we remember him to be. Was real little to start. He lost. I know, but he's even smaller and lost some weight. He just doesn't look like the force that we knew him to be. This is extremely sad. And he was icy, right? His. His was like, why do you want to share this now? And nobody knew who he was. And he was like, who the is that? And he was like, Chris Johnson. I'm like, get the out of here, bro. He was small, like, oh, he got to be A different type of fast and quick and strong. He was little, bro. Like, real small. Probably five, eight, like, but little. Little frame. I said, oh, yeah, he's fast. That's part of the sad part about als, which y' all probably know as Lou Gehrig's disease. You've heard of, at least. It's a neurodegenerative disease, so you start to lose brain function, you start to lose muscle strength and mobility to the point where at some point, you often can't walk, can't move, can't speak, can't do things, breathe, can't swallow. Yeah. Like, it affects all of that. Everything. I had a Kevin Thompson Sr. 1 is one of the great martial artists, black martial artist ever. Got it about maybe like 10 years ago and passed away from it. We see athletes get it. Obviously, Luke Ehrich got it. It's sad when anybody gets it, but when you watch people who spent their life kind of defined by their physicality and their body and their extraordinary athletic ability, to watch them kind of waste away physically, it's even more like. I don't know. For me, it's like tragic and super sad, man. The craziest part. Cause I was reading up on ALS. It says 90 to 95% of cases are sporadic. Without a clear family history. It's not like it's genetic. Right. Just pops the fuck up. Remember everybody was doing the Ice Bucket Challenge? That's what they was doing. Yeah, it was. Yep, yep. It was for that, man. And they was donating a bunch of the money to the research. Yeah, that's a good cause. Would you just piss me off? Why? We was having a blast. Four nights when I was. I mean, we was, but that's the cause. That was what it was. I know you talking about that was good that we had a blast. They kept it going, kept the money going. Content. Hey, pour this bucket of ice on me, boy. Content creators could go to hell. Yo, I forgot we need to go there. Why? We want. Oh, go ahead. No, no, please. Yeah. Is going through real. This, this, this. I don't have nothing to say, cuz. This just hurts my heart. I wanna. He did put something out. He's sharing his story. He says, first, I want to thank God for carrying me through. And I'm not going to read this all because it's very long. Most. Most of all, I want to thank my wife, Brittany. And that's important to me because we've been coming up here telling these stories of marriages going awry once somebody goes through a health issue. But his wife was right there, standing by her side. There aren't enough words for what you've done. You've become my caregiver, my advocate, my voice when I need one. And somehow you've continued to hold our family together through all of this. I know this hasn't just changed my life. It's changed yours, too. I couldn't fight this without you. He wrote something to his kids that I won't read because I'll cry right on the air to his friends. Let me just get to the end where he says, this disease is strong, but I'm stronger than the version of me that thought ALS would end my story. I'm not disappearing. I'm here, and I'm going to keep fighting. I intend to be around for a long time for my family, for our communities, and for anyone out there who needs to hear that. Hope isn't just a story slogan. It's a decision that we make every single day. And if you've ever wondered what you can do to help, he says, please donate to ALS research. Every contribution helps give scientists the tools to move faster, bring better treatments to families sooner, and move us closer to a cure. One contribution can be the difference between someday and soon. And he thanks, everybody for watching. Thank you for loving me. Thank you for standing with me. Chris Johnson. We love you, man. Yeah, we love you. We love you. While we on a sad note, I just want to do a While we're on a sad note, I just want to do a rest in peace for the great Khadija Farrakhan, indeed the wife of Minister Louis Farrakhan, who passed away a few days ago. A lot of times when we celebrate extraordinary leaders, whether it's Du Bois, whether it's. Whether it's King Garvey, we often don't recognize the labor and the work of the women who toiled beside them, not just as people in the background, but people who help do the work of building up those empires, those movements, those organizations. And Khadija Farrakhan is no different. She was Minister Farrakhan's partner, his wife, for more than seven decades, which is crazy to imagine. You live to be 90 and you've been married for 73 years just about is amazing. But again, she wasn't just a wife. She was a helpmeet. She was a partner. She helped him. They joined the faith together. They grew together. She was originally Betsy Ross, who became Betsy Walter, who became Betsy Farrakhan, who eventually took the name Khadija. And for those that don't know Khadijah was the wife of the prophet Muhammad Sallallahu alaihi wasallam and somebody who helped build something, and she did the same for him. She was known as the mother of the faithful. She was known as someone who was an inspiration to women. She was someone who represented beauty and dignity and humility. When you talk about Muslim girls training and she. General civilization classes, MGT and gcc, she was at the front of it. She was the face of something that was powerful and beautiful and transformative for black people and really for the nation. Khadija Farrakhan was extraordinary not just for nine children, not just for literally dozens of grandchildren, not just for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of women who followed her, but for an entire world to see the example of what grace and dignity and faith can produce. And so we send love and condolences to the Farrakhan family and to everyone who identifies as a believer and in Islam. We say, surely we are gods, and to gods we will return or we are returning. Well said, Mark. Rest in peace. Indeed. Rest in peace and peace. The blackness. Phone. You've never heard of Jo. You've never heard of Joe, Buddy, Mark, you be killing the eulogies. You really do. And I love that you do that here. But when you stop, like, you gotta find a way to pick it up. Don't toss it to me, all right? I don't know how to. I'm sad. Yo, is she got 100 on you? All right, she got 100 on you? I want to post that clip of the eulogy on my website, and I'm gonna need 500. Protect the people. Yo, though he going through it. Them standing against you. That's what they talk. Y' all take credit cards? What them said they stole from the. Hit me closely. Put on. I get money. Come on, Though. He got rid of his own. All right, we can't hear you. We can't. There you go. Go ahead now. You know what it is, man. Don't. Don't get an attitude. Cuz you mad at them. Cuz they accuse you of doing that. Take it out on them. Go into space and talk to them right now. Matter of fact, queue up your space now. You got paid to talk to him now. Clip. You know he charging $50 for every space it. Yeah, I mean, on some jbcc. Y' all try to get me in trouble. I ain't messing with y', all, man. Shout out to the community, wherever you at. Which community? The new one. All the communities. Shout out to each and every One of the communities out there, man. Yo, I love that. You gotta get to the bag, though. Yo. Yo, we getting. It's a business, man. This is changing the game continuously. We need. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your promotion. Getting along. N. Always want to talk about some old shit, man. Last week, some last week's shit took 10 years of service. We won't report you. You won't get reported. Just break bread. You won't get reported. Yeah, what else we got? Go ahead, Flip, right? Yeah. He want to change the subject. Yeah, I don't want to change the subject. No, you. He does. Oh, yeah, I know he do. I. With you, Flip. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's me and Flip. Look at you. What the. Spike Le. Is that his. You see Spike Lee on the side of the hat? No. Oh, I see it then. Oh, that fly. Let me see. Yeah, these. These fake Nick fans. Yo, go ahead, man. Go ahead. It's your world. There's a Knicks conspiracy that I read that says the Knicks got the worst NBA championship shirts because they were supposed to be spurs shirts. Spurs colors. Oh, God. I saw that. Did they show up? It says the last four champions. Champions are the champions colors in the shirt. It do look. And our shirt. It does look like. It does look like. It does. And when they show you the last shirts and you see the last shirts, it's like, I. I get it. But to me, that makes it flyer. I do, too. To me, that makes it even. Doper. Yeah. We wasn't supposed to win this. And this is your shirt. Send that to, you know. Send that. Did they show the. Send that shit. No. You don't see that. It. It land over there when they send it. Oh, yeah. Go, Nicks, man. All right. What else? What else Needs our team. I think we. We had about seven hours here. We have, like, three hours. I don't think there's anything else that needs. Let me see. Amber Rose is a nutcase. Malik Beasley, Chris Johnson. My heart still goes out to you, man. I can't. I can't. At 39 years old. See, we be thinking sometimes that you got to be older to get some of this stuff. True, true. Yeah. Yeah. True. It's crazy. You never know. That's true. 39 years old. I mean, how can you blame Megatron? Good point. How do you blame him for walking away early like that on some football fans? You be like, how do you blame. How do you blame Andrew Luck who was getting kicked? How do. You can't. Yeah, it's the other side the of. Of that you can't. Can't blame them. And I get it. You. You get what you get in life. But that football. I mean we barbarians so we can't really have no real competition. But that football. I'm over it. I'd be over if I had to be a player. Yeah, I wouldn't play that at all. I'm saying as a parent, I wouldn't play it. I don't. I wouldn't let my kids play it. My son is built for football. There ain't no way he gonna play football. Yeah, I can't not going to do it. Unless he going to be a kicker. Unless he going to be a field goal kick be Dylan. They get. They get up too. I'm saying that all my stepson is killing, but I mean that's okay. No, he bodying it. You know, that's a. You know, it's been a great show. No, I mean football was his passion when I came into his life. But if you. But if you're asking me my. My imagination in my head see me and my baby at a game one day and now I got to hold her hand cuz somebody done hit her child away that they should have hit her. It's football. Somebody gonna get hit. Yeah, but come on, Joe, that's awful. Yeah, I mean it's up if I'm at the game. He played defense though. If I'm home then. Huh? You say he played defense. So did Demar Hamlin. That Demar Hamlin? Yeah. That don't mean nothing. The bill that dear Hampton was so bad. The Bills ain't cut him yet. It's been a great show. Hope you enjoyed as much as we enjoy making. If there's one person that you ain't really been getting the production from, hey, every summer I'm like, yo, this is still a bill. They will not let him go. He be doing all right. Did they let him go? No, he's not bad either. I thought they doing I season. Please cut that. Come on. All right. Yo, I still want him to live. What the you talking about? I mean he got to feed his family. Yeah, I ain't mad at that. I want nobody to not be able to feed their family. True. That is absolutely true. Unless. Unless you're a clipper. Oh, think about you. Right? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Just signed a one year contract. Not let Demar him and go. I like that. I'm not mad at. No, go ahead. That was against your team. Right. My memory is bad. Was that a Steelers game? I don't think that. I don't think it was Steelers game. No, it's Bengals or something, wasn't it? Whatever, whatever. We'll find out later. Okay, let's see, let's see, let's see. I might as well keep it here. That's different. 50s MAGA. Can I end with this? N50 ain't no 58 mega. All right, I'll end with it. This shit is hard. It fits you, huh? You wear that. It fits you. I wear what? That's all it fits you. Mark, why do you still have my chain on? You don't care about. You left it on the ground. I've had it for about half the show. I know, I just didn't want to interrupt the show with such foolishness. No, you didn't, cuz. I just pulled it out like 10 seconds ago. No, it was tucked in. You think I can't tell when the chain is tucked in? You're an expert on it. Oh, God, I'm walking into him tonight. Yo, listen, man. Hopefully y'. All. Yes, he going home. His family. Nigga, you got you stuck with me. Listen, hopefully you have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Especially me, please. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios, arrivederci. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye with simple heaven. Novel suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last. Give me this shit. I win it again. I'm gonna put some labs in this. I'm about to ice this out. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. And the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. Fourth of July weekend. Fourth of July weekend. What's the plans? What's the plans? Weekend or week? We still in the week. The weekend. I'm be at the beach. I'm trying to talk my wife to go into essence. Are you. Are you going to do the beach during all this heat wave shit? Yes. Me, Cece, my baby moms, we taking all the kids to the beach tomorrow and Thursday. Yo, stop. What? Stop. Man. Leave the nigga alone. The is alone, boy. I didn't say that. But he's on. He need to tell us that in our one boy so we could have some fun with him. You know better. He's smart, nice, smart. Yeah, the whole family go right Freezy, yo. Yes. Yo, this ain't that little red lobster y' all did as a blended family. This bikinis. Boy, oh, boy. You better keep your eyes straight. You better keep us there. Have y' all seen my. My woman? Huh? Have y' all seen my woman? She looks great. Let me let y' all know. Let me let y. Only in her eyes. Let y' all know something. She looks amazing. No, he said you got. He said you doing the other. What am I doing? Adding at it all. No way. Nobody talking about how you're a missing beast. Look, he ain't gotta look nowhere else. I don't have to look nowhere else. He brought Santa to the beach because his beach is better. Exactly. Yeah, but your taste wasn't so bad when you went to the other beach. Yeah, that's what he said. He said you bringing. So now you got. Now you bringing the beach. Now you bringing the Mac and the yeah. GS together to touch him. Let's go. Freeze. Now you giving a freeze right here on the beach. No. Yo, y' all always make it nasty. Word. Grow up, Grow up. You a legend. Playing with you, boy. Nobody give that scars on your legs. Them scars come from something that Freeze, boy. You taking your girl and your baby Pm to the beat and that nigga's that. Yo, I only crack on him, cuz we on ear. But in real life, that is that, boy. That's fly. I love free. Kick the door down. Let go through the door. I cut my. You know that ain't good. What beach we going? We going to Jersey. The name of the beach. I'm not saying the name of. Say, come on. Doing the telly out there? Yes. Yo, Freeze. You gotta tell me that alone once so I can pick you up. Hey, how many beds in the room? Two rooms for the kids. One for the kids. One for the kids. Hey, put the kids to sleep. Hey, y'. All. Go to your room, y'. All. I see what y' all on slow as. Hey, I'm not thinking that. Mommy's gotta do something. I ain't thinking you already. Hey, yo, me and Molly's gotta do something. We got prayer meeting. Hey, gotta talk to your mother about out someday. Your mothers, your mothers. We got to work some stuff out. Oh, my God. Well, we can't hear because y' all doing some secret, but we going to crack on. Secret? This you stupid. Oh, my God. Only Freeze can pull that off. That boy bad. That's what I'm saying, boy. You bringing a honey pack? No. You ain't got enough dick to still do that. You ain't got enough dick to do that. He bringing the rhino. Yo, he ain't got every night. He ain't got enough dick to go around. Nah. Yo, get a third room. Yo. Yo, get a third room. Forget about what we talking about. Anyway. What are y' all doing? I'm trying to get my wife to go to Essence Fest. She's been wanting to go, and as much as I'd love, I hate to be alone for the weekend, I'm willing to. Well, you trying to get her to go? Yeah. It's a woman's event. It's a black women's event. It's not for me. Oh, you going? No, I'm going. Stay home. No, he trying to send her. That's what he me up. When he said it, I thought he was trying to get her to go with you. Something going on. I'mma get that to the. To you, boy. Hey, yo, you like this? Some freaky doctor going on with you, boy. Dead ass. Some going on with you. Yo, Mark. Mark's a swing. Something. Something is happening. Yo, something is happening. Did somebody call the doctor? Yes. Let me. You got a white robe in the closet. I wonder why you went so hard on God. She said it was an Alia. Yo, can you all stop? Can you. Jesus. My wife said it was an Aaliyah tribute down there, and she wished she could go. And I was like, oh, you can go. You know, I'm making some calls right now to get the passes, and, you know. Oh, shut up. You gonna go. How'd my girl wanna go with her? My girl love Aaliyah. What's Aaliyah? What's your name? See if they can makes. I think we. I made two phone call. See, I'm trying to figure out my fourth of July plans, cuz. Similar to what you guys are talking about. Like, REM Had a party this weekend, and she was yelling a lot. She lost her voice. Oh, so I haven't heard my wife's voice in, like, five days. I'm so sorry. Oh, man, I know it's tough. Tell me exactly what she's like, specifically, detail by detail. So I just. I just can't wait for the weekend, you know, Maybe. I think she'll be good by then. Just to hear your baby's voice to keep. That's it. That's it. I know you. I know you. Ms. Rough. How you been? Y. How you holding up? I know it's been rough. Not being able to hear her in the house about anything. It's hard. It's hard. Damn. Sorry that happened. Lot of texting. We got a whiteboard. You know what I mean? Like lotto when she wrote the lyric. You know what I mean? Same type. I'm sorry that happened to you. Live music and congrats. And congrats. Here's what you're doing. Going away o. Virginia. That was to going hundred. Wait. Say. I don't know why I don't. You like Charlie Brown the football at this point, huh? For 800 episodes, you run up to it and think it's going to be there when you kick it, and it's not. You ask this a question every day, and you know what the is about to happen. You act surprised every time you do. You try to brawl with the foot. You got too much hope. Nah. You know he. Where you going, bro? You can't share. You can't share it. I'm chilling. It's private. We do it. Nobody going to go there. Here. What am I doing, man? You don't know. I'm not doing nothing. I don't have no plans. My baby's going to see Aaliyah. She don't even know it yet. I'll probably just. I'll probably just be home preparing the house. Yeah, no doubt. Getting anything ready. I might make dinner for her that night. Yeah. Chef Joe is back. Chicken. Chicken. Chef Joey rd That's a great idea. Tuna fish as an appetizer. Yo, you play. I know you cracking on me, but she got a list of all my little specialty meals that now I got to make with meals or dishes. That's fine. Dishes. Something, something. Whatever I make. Whether it's burger. She said. Yeah. Joe. Burger. Yeah, I'm up there. Give me my. Now. Shut up. You got to do that. I guess. Time to work. If I cook for that mean I got cooking for her mean cooking for the kids. Yes. Never that. They won't like you, boy. You can't cook for one plate. Oh, I ain't. All right. Never mind. I'd be going out of my way to be a. They don't like. Hey, listen to your mother, you little. I'm not. Nope. All right. Hey, we getting it. Oh. Oh, Mario. Look at that. Look at God. Yo. Happy 4th of July out there. Indeed. Please be safe. Don't pull a OC human with that. OC. No, that was JPP, yo. And it wasn't even just JPP. JPP. JPP. I just said that. JPP. No, I said JPP and you know we got another show before the 4th that's true we have a show on the airs on the 4th when the weather break I start feeling like the Tuesdays is Fridays cuz you talking like we weren't going to show up Final freedom Tuesday side we talk about final freedom Tuesday have the same ring got to got to step out got to step out my trainer think I'm showing up in the morning slow down oh he going to be happy he ain't got to wreck all them he make smoothies he wouldn't get babe massage your shoulder for the month no you think I'm rich anyway yes. You got the money for your tenants? All of them we about to be in July is you a liar. I swear to God. Text him now he's still texting Text him. Daddy jbp jbp jbp jbjbj. We'll fold that up right now you've never heard of Joe Buddha?