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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.
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Yeah, that's all.
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You had a good breakfast, you say, girl?
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Yes, I did have a good breakfast, Mark. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening.
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Indeed.
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It is the fourth of July weekend. My baby made a little something, Mark. She went in the kitchen while I was in the bedroom. Just minding my business.
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Nice.
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I know you trying to set me up for a joke, Mark, but I'm not.
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There's nothing that I'm.
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We happy for you.
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We happy for you. Thank you, brothers. There's nothing that y'. All. It's day three. You cook for her yet? I don't want to bore. I don't want to bore the audience
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with day three of what?
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Him living with his daughter.
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He's counting it,
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Mona. He counting hours.
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Word. Oh, I didn't.
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Cause it's so fun.
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Yeah.
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If counting it is bad, then I shouldn't tell you the other part. You'll really think I'm crazy, but I'll tell you. All right. So they got an A minus on day one.
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Grading. Is this school?
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He's a psycho.
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Who got an A minus?
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I'm grading them. They got an A grading him as a unit. Yeah. Each day. Each day.
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There's no one man above the team.
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Day two, we dropped a C. Damn. Fall off on day two.
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What they do?
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What happened on day two?
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Me and the dog had to get acquainted. Oh, you got a dog. Oh, you got.
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Is it a little cutesy dog?
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It's a little Chihuahua.
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There's a dog bed that just arrived. That's all I'm gonna say.
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Oh, the new dog bed.
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Oh, the doggy car seat, too.
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Look at you, providing.
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Please.
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I please get it.
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I thought it got sent to the wrong apartment, like, wrong building.
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Depending on what we talking about.
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We talking about bitches. That's bad enough to make you move them in with a dog and kids.
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Pussy good.
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Oh, her mom got two. Movement with two dogs.
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Pussy power.
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And I'll be out there walking them in slippers.
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Chicks is bad.
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So you go to war with a Chihuahua on day two.
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I know he don't like J.
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So the dynamics of the house. We do have to get together. Happy 4th of July out there. The dynamics of the house. We gotta get together anytime. I've had a dog, the dog was connected to me. This dog is connected to her. The daughter. The daughters are connected to her, and the son is connected to me.
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Mm.
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So we just gotta get a few things.
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You know, there's a picture of it on there together.
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All right, now we're doing ads.
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All right.
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We're doing an ad. Thanks, Corey. Also, the way that kids function when it's just mom in the house versus how they knock on the door when it's a nigger in there needs to be addressed. Hard bangs. Like the Feds.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like. Like it's something. Like it's something important that they want.
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They. They not knocking. They.
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It's that. And that's cool when it's just mama. That one's a.
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It's also cool if they want. No child's ever knocked on the door and want anything of importance.
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That's a fact.
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Is.
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I mean, I could be wrong. Am I wrong?
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They older, so they might actually want some.
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That's true, but.
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Having a blast.
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You didn't answer my question.
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God is good. Ultra fulfilled. Blessed to be looking at my soulmate every morning.
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You said she made breakfast for you, so I'm asking you. That means you got to make lunch or dinner or something. That's the trade off at some point. I meant today.
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I'm not doing that today. What are you talking about? Why would I be doing that today?
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You guys are lucky. I didn't have no electricity. Nothing to make. No food today.
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No electricity.
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My went out last night about 10:30 at night. Oh, I slept AC list.
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Oh, on the hottest day of the year?
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Yeah, that's correct.
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It was like 102.
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That's correct. I was fortunate that it only got up to, like, 80.
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Oh, nice.
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Which is not great, but it could have been worse.
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Poor Parksy.
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Yeah, it was a rough night.
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That's hard, man. Now I feel bad because. Mom, Donnie had put something out.
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He said, put the shit up to 78.
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Mom Donnie said, everybody, Hey, y'.
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All.
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The power grid is gonna be struggling. Everybody put it. If you put your temperature to 78, then we won't have any loss of life.
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My neighbors did not listen.
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We won't have loss of power, man. I went to the shit and crunk that shit to about 67.
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Well, you're a Jersey, so don't talk to us.
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Hey, Mom. Donnie. Nigga, no, no. Oh, you suck. I might go to my family house in New York. Just turn it at Least that's the
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reason why parks didn't have lights. Cause the people like you.
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Exactly.
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We don't affect them. That's New York shit. Hey, that's one of the things white
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people will have to endure. Like, I don't feel too bad when the whites get a.
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Like, all right, I'm sure it's black neighbors was hot.
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My neighbors aren't all white.
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No, no, but you white. You white, though.
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So.
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Yeah, sleep with sweat.
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Check this one out, though. So at least Mom Donnie gave niggas a choice. When you got these smart thermostats hooked up, they send a notice around saying, yo, we. We adjusting these shits. So that to conserve energy, they turned the shits up to 78 on their own.
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I love that.
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Are you serious?
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I swear to God, you have to go in there and manually override it. I'm like, yo, why the fuck?
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Why don't you say 78? Or go in there with a weapon?
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Suck at socialism, man. Y' all just gonna kill everybody.
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Yes.
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Wait, socialism mean you gotta keep the temperature at 78?
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You care about socialism?
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No, but I'm just. I'm saying, like this. It's a mindset of, like, thinking about the collective.
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We all we got.
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Yeah, I could have managed 75.
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See, now I lost all my sympathy for you. I'm glad you.
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Here's the thing. 70. 78 is so much better than 80. Whatever that was last night.
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Yeah, I do 78 in the winter.
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Socialism don't know about marketing. If y' all lead with that, the plight is over. Yeah, keep the temperature at 78. That's like the Bloods leading with. We gotta jump you in.
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I was down, but no, nevermind.
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I'm gonna pass.
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I'm cool.
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Choosing a zero on that one. Let's see here. Let's get it. We take too long, so my phone freezes, which means I can't start with my clip of Mano wanting to fuck Mona.
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I have my friend in real life, Mr. Jim Jones, on the pod. He still hasn't been on the podcast.
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Enough of that pod talk, mama.
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And we have Mr. Maino. I'm a big fan of Mr. Maino.
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Nah, enough of that big fan shit.
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Oh, Cameron Maino came at Ebony because EBONY tried to charge him. I mean, that's what they said. Oh, I didn't.
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I just asked a question.
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I was surprised about a lot of things.
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Hello.
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We can talk about that if you want.
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We can talk about thirsty. We can talk about it.
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Okay. I appreciate he so thirsty on the Internet.
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It's not giving that.
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I'm like this sister.
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Let's give.
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I'm not your.
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I'm not your brother.
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I'm not your brother, little girl.
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I ain't your brother.
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Mom, he is so funny. He's such a character, that guy. Uhhuh.
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Character.
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He's just on it. He's spot on when that camera comes on.
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Yeah. Oh, bet. Shout out to main. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
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Don't, don't, don't invite me over your house for the, for the fourth of July. If, if you barbecuing frozen patties. I'm, I'm, I'm. Do not put no fro. I'm a grown ass man. Facts.
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Pack.
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Pack them burgers out. A couple pounds of ground beef and pack them burgers out frozen.
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Pat some onions damn near.
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And you out here at least onion powder. Pat that meat out special. It's the 4th of July. Got some frozen, some frozen square. Got some square burger. Don't, don't let me come over here and you give me no, no goddamn square burger and pack. Pat the burgers out flat. I don't want no burger biscuit. Give me, give me, give me what a man's supposed to eat at a barbecue.
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A burger.
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That, that's me half pound. Try to video me eating no hot dog. I might get one hot dog.
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One.
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And one burger. I might get one of each.
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I'm getting a hot dog for sure. And you, you can record me. I'm cool.
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Do I some sandals, but I wear, I wear them with socks like a.
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Mic check 12. Mic check 1 too. On the 4th of July weekend.
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July.
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July, yeah. July.
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Hey.
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
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What part?
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Depending on what part of the world you in. So glad you could be here with us. 30 enough, 40 enough. 40 enough. Nah, I'm on this ti. I'm on this T. It's absolute heat on this ti. Yo, shout out to whatever the part of the world you in right now. Everybody throwing a cookout. Yo, remember, do not let everybody get in there with a macaroni salad, potato salad, seafood salad. Be careful with all that. I got my pistol on the damn floor. Little mama trying to show me where my hand go I got it grabbing on my pants like a candle. She want to get that hair wet like a candle. She said she want to hump twice like a camel she got the toe pretty white Louis sandal. She said she with it. I said give me an example. Said she already had plans. She could cancel. Everybody outside right now. Everybody traveling right now. Shout out to it. Saint Martin. I see you, boy. A damn thing popping champagne sick. Going back and forth with the damn thing. Been dancing on me deathly wang for an hour. I bet she wondered what she could let through my trouser. I got my.
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I got my thistle on the damn floor.
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Little mama trying to show me where my hand go. I got her grabbing on my pants like a handle. Happy fourth of July weekend. Shout out to all the parents out there.
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Give me an example.
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Say she already had plans. She could cancel. Never chase bread. Chase the vision. Make you word when you said be the business.
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No cap.
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God in my witness, success. Feel better. Independent Valley, Atlantic Florida.
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What's going on out there?
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South Carolina.
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North Carolina.
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Atlantic City. Somebody tell them people Mr. Henley's here. You know what I mean? It was hot the other day. Took my black ass right over to Lowe's, man. Shout out to Lowe's. It's two working in there. It's two working. And one of them got the nerve to have an attitude. See if I can get a little grill, you know what I mean?
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Right now.
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Charcoal.
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Listen,
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Charcoal or gas?
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You better answer right.
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You better answer right.
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I can't for legal purposes, but not.
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Okay, okay, Got it.
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Got it.
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That was an answer.
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Mr. Him is here.
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Mr.
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Him. Mic shack. Mic Shack. One, two, one, two, one, two. Mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two. So happy to be here. So glad to be here with y' all today. Keep this applause going. Let me get these drops out the way. Who is that?
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It's Mark Lama Pussy.
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And thanks to Mano, we do have a Mona drop, but because it's 100 degrees out, we're going to go ahead and put that in here. Thank you, mano. We absolutely love you. We have a Mona drop. Going to get to it, but because it's so hot out, we do want to get out of here expediently as we possibly can. Good, good. You should be welcome to the Joe Button Podcast.
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What?
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No, I'm won't drive you. What episode is this?
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43.
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Welcome to 900 episode 943 of the JOE Button Podcast. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. This episode is brought to you by a few by power. By prize picks. Prize picks, gang. To my. All right, Big Mona. Don't call her white girl. Fresh back from bet. Mona, how you doing?
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I'm doing amazeballs.
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Good. Absolutely love that. Next to her, Philly's finest, Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?
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Rest in peace.
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Radio Shack, man.
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Yeah, that was my spot.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That was one of my favorite spots to steal from.
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Cause they were so overpriced, you had to take them down.
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Nah, Radio Shack was cheap.
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What?
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Radio Shack was all right. I go in there, Radio Shack was the shit. Steal the exact wire I needed.
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Thank you.
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Radio Shack was cheap.
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Yeah.
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Like some of that for everything but computers. Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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Wires and can get expensive. Yeah, that was cheap.
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Next to Mark, our good brother, Mr. Thousand. Oh, this ain't here. This.
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You miss him.
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I miss each of you when you're not here.
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No, it's different. There's a twinkle in your eye when you look to that couch. And there's no twinkle today.
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Yeah, no twinkle.
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You're twinkleless.
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Your twinkle is. Your twinkle's going.
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Is the air on in here?
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It's never gonna feel like it is.
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And we got the nerve to have these stupid ass bright light. Hey, audience, I'm getting the out of here. I ain't gonna be here long.
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Yo, can we record this, like, live at 1.5?
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Honestly. Honestly. Anyway, Mr. Take It Further himself. Is he our good brother? Freeze. Freeze. What's up with you?
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What's going on, man? How everybody doing now?
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Got Sixers jerseys on.
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And he look good. Good, too.
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Last time I seen him, he had Nick's. Nick's apparel on.
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I went to watch to a Nick's watch party. That's.
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Now we got the Sixers. Always a Sixers.
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He trying to divide us now.
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We back and we got good things going. Things going on now we back to this.
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Never left.
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Who is that? That's Iverson.
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A got the ions.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Let's introduce.
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Jayla is on the way, though.
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Yeah. Oh, no, don't worry, Elm. I'm introducing, and I'm just y' all introduced.
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Ordering both of those.
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All right. Elmyra's finest. Elmyra's finest. Big Parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing, man?
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I feel great, man.
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Good, good. Po is here. Corey is here. Phelps is here. Big Rim is here. Erickson is here. Savon is here. Tanner is here. Those brothers are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. And it's a Fourth of July weekend.
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It is happy 250.
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Happy 250th.
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Oh, stop.
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America.
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Oh, please. Oh, please, don't start this again. Listen, man, thank you, though. All babies born will have a special Social Security card for the next two years. Yes, they said that. Yes. A special America 250.
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Oh, I love that. Trump's face be on it.
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Oh, you already know.
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You know he ain't making.
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That's what I'm saying. The black babies. That should be an option.
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It really should.
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You should get Obama options.
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That's not gonna look right under your mom mattress.
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I'm telling you, America, we need. We need. We need to change the fucking business model of America. I fucking couldn't even watch the news this morning. Turn the news on. Everything is mad 4th of July ish. So there's mad slave owners and slave masters and slave owner pets with pitchforks. They wasn't talking about no news, no murders. The weather. Mike woods wasn't on. Shout out to Mike Woods.
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That's because Mondame cleaned it up over there.
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Yeah, me mom died. 78. 78.
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78 degrees. That crime rate is gonna go back up if you keep it at 78.
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They got battleships coming down to Hudson.
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Yeah. I looked out there, I was like,
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what the fuck is that?
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Yeah, that's how I know everybody in New Jersey is in their own world. Cause everybody said, yo, what the fuck is going on out there? When the aircrafts were letting off red, white, and blue clouds throughout the sky. New Jerseyans, hey, what the hell's going on up there? I'm like, it's the Fourth of July, man. It's normal. It's perfectly normal. What's up with Joe, though?
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What we on?
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What we on in here?
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How's everybody? Weekend. Look, all them shit's running. How was y' all week?
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It was hot.
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It was too hot to do anything.
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I had one of them bad weeks that just turned out good. My studio got flooded. A pipe burst at our content house, and so I had to go over there and check it out. And then my wife decided that she was gonna stay there for a few days.
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Huh.
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To finish her book. Oh. We didn't have any damage. Half the building had damage. We were blessed not to have damage. Okay, so she's away for three days. I was telling you on the balcony.
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So who takes the baby? The bad one.
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I got him.
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So she get to go write the book. You keep the toddler.
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It's great.
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That bitch nice. I'm telling you, she's good.
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But it's been like, three days without her. And so, you know, I miss her very much, but I'm finding a way to be able to sit on the couch and eat and do all my shit, like, alone. And that little bit of alone time sometimes.
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It's nice.
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It's nice.
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Yo, when this nigga's in daycare, like, when are you alone? When he takes a nap.
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Yeah, I put him to bed quick. I make him a special drink.
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A little better drink.
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Ice gave me some stuff to give to him.
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Maybe my baby want to write a book about something.
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A joint book.
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Joint book.
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Yeah, we got.
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Hey, let's talk.
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It been three days. I understand Parks better than I ever have.
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Thank you.
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I used to tease them. I totally get it.
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Thank you.
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Parks, Williamsburg, fucking nose. I get it. No, I get that he's the man.
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You cannot continue to count them days. That shit don't sound right. People count days when they're kidnapped. You know what I mean? People count days about ransoms and shit like that. You count days about shit you don't want to do.
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1,542,
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y' all are 3,500.
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Nah, we counting that shit. I'm sorry, dog. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, I'm not that mature yet, but having a blast. Having fun.
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It's exciting.
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Happy for you.
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Then she's like, we've, like, really in love. So anywhere I go, like, she'll be there a couple seconds later.
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Of course. That's what love's all about.
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Joe, shower together.
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Can we do, like, periodic check ins? That's all I want to know.
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You can't say nothing because they love you. They did. They.
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Right there.
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It's like they just want to be right there.
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Right there.
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Like, right there, right there.
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There.
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Y' all so full of.
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No, it's.
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Look, y' all like it?
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We do.
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We love it.
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We love it.
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We love it. We found our person. But. But come on.
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You gonna still be my person over there.
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Yeah, Come on, give it a break. Give it a rest. I thought that was the point of finding your person. Like, oh, you spent your whole life trying to find your breath. Oh, found you. We could just chill.
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We can exist together.
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But you know what you need?
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You just need some space.
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That's it.
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You need some space. They say good fences make good neighbors. Seriously.
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Or the good trees.
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Yeah.
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Man cave is important and stuff like that.
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Yes, yes. Imperative.
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Yeah, that's so simple.
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Somewhere you can have alone time. That's all.
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That's it. You just need space and. Yeah.
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Anyway. Shout out to all the happy couples out there. Shout out to all the miserable couples out there. And shout out to the lovely of my life out There. Anyway, so I went to Lowe's.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Hopefully it was a Weber.
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Two workers. It was a Weber.
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Good.
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Two workers in there. One guy had attitude. The other guy was tough to find. And he was a little overweight, so the weather wasn't his friend.
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Oh.
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Did he have a washcloth?
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I was just.
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I. I tipped him.
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I tipped him.
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Okay.
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I ti.
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Or that towel they keep on. Smart man.
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Yeah. But went and bought a little. Little barbecue. Might fire me. Might let her fire it up.
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Nice.
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Okay.
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Do you participate in this? Some dudes take grilling serious.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I'm gonna buy the stuff.
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Okay. I didn't know if you want to make the stuff.
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Like, I bought all the grill stuff to go. Did you buy the gloves?
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Did you buy the chimney? The chimney. You need that?
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Oh, I didn't.
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I'll put you on.
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I didn't buy a chimney.
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I disagree.
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I'm sorry.
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I disagree about those burgers. Adults have ground beef burgers. That's not true with grilling. Most people that. A lot of people make those burgers, they fail and you end up eating meatballs on buns or those peppers are too big or. Why does everybody look so confused?
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Because I think you're just wrong.
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Yeah.
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I don't think people in Delaware know how to make burgers. She ain't lying. Them people I seen in that video that you went viraling. I don't think none of them says nothing about that. Says they got a grill, know how to grill.
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No fresh food.
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Mona, why did you have a sock on? We going to start.
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Oh, yeah, you are back. You are back.
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No, for real.
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Honestly.
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Nah.
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Why did you have one sock on? For real.
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First off, off, we got some cat
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questions for you too.
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I would like to. Oh, off for you. The last to ask cat question. God damn it.
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Listen, we asking them. Yeah, we got cat questions. We animal lovers.
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My brothers in here called me because they were concerned. They want to make sure I was okay. As you heard, Ishay, he was the first person with the news because his ears are to the street. He knew two hours after it happened, he was on the scene.
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He called me, where you at?
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I'm here. I said, ish, I'm home already. That's first off. You two niggas didn't call and see if I was okay.
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You too, Mona. I don't know your.
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You change your number every two days.
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I text you all remembering the same.
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You did call me, so shut up. Joe said he wished he had a door so he could slam that door in my face every day like Shaquita did. That's what makes it. And then when all my brothers came to my rescue and defended me. Here go Joe. Fuck that. The bitch had one sock on.
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That's valid.
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But you had a sock on.
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I'mma say this. You know what ran through in my head when it happened? You had just gave me advice to move really fast and I walked really fast to that store.
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No, that's not what the advice meant.
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What was it you said? Don't sit still. When you go somewhere, you have to move fast. People don't get to approach you.
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I think he met you.
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You should be more clear about where to somewhere else.
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I said don't be stationary.
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Right.
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I thought he meant just move.
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And I was moving in new address and move back to the same store that you got kicked out the of. She kicked you out the store and you moved back to the store.
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Shaquita can't kick me out the store.
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It wasn't her store.
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No, it wasn't her store. It wasn't like that. Honestly, I feel like. I know this is gonna sound stupid and you're really gonna hate it. I'm the type of person that I like, I learned a hard way kind of person. And I've been hearing before coming here, like, you gotta watch your surroundings. You're not the same person. You're not a regular person, whatever. Like Mark said when I wasn't here, I do teeter on that thing of like, I feel like a regular person. So it's like, why can't I run into the store real fast? But I'm not a regular person and I'm placing myself in bad situations. Almost like, let's say it was some street shit and I had some successful street shit going on. I wouldn't be around a bunch of people then either. You feel what I'm saying? So that's how I start to like switch it up now, you know, Period, point blank. I feel like. Cause that girl didn't know me. I know a lot of people think that it was like a viral moment. It was just some old like. Like, you think you cute kind of thing. Like. Because she was like saying I wanted to be black and like that. But you're watching a visual of me like fighting with that through my head. Like I know I should just leave. I could have leave. If I would have left way faster, it wouldn't be so much content. But it was hard to walk off because I felt like, like, damn, talking to me like that, you know? Then I tried to get on my wallow, you know what I mean? Like, sister, we sisters. And she was like, bitch, I kill you. So I came down a little bit from that, and it didn't work. And it's like, before I knew it, I couldn't even find my. My house. Like, I was so confused, by the time I was pulling on that door, I thought it was that the door to my town hall was lost, riddled with fear. I'm glad I made it. I do have a go find it. Because I've been so jumpy lately. Ever since I did learn my lesson, I'm staying out of ghettos from here to the Bronx bodegas. And no, seriously, who's up here with us? It's a very hard lesson to learn, but I had to learn my lessons hard like that parks like, it's so super viral. When I came in here, it was already like, viral loads locally. Like Philly. Yeah, Ish had seen it. He really did see it first. He cracked the joke right there, and I was like, shut the up, green eyes. Where I you up and these here. He was like, my bad. So then y' all didn't know, and then it went super crazy.
A
But can you just answer us about the sock before we move on?
E
I have to wear compression socks, and
B
sometimes I lose them and still go outside.
E
So I had one, and I was running to the store real fast because I bought my friend's son some stickers. So I was in a really good mood. Cause he loves stickers. So I was on some making my way downtown. And she was on some what set you claim, bitch? So it just didn't match. And I wanted to be like, come on, sister. We all we got.
A
Come on, just move, girl.
E
I don't just move.
A
Enough of it. This is enough.
C
Move up with us. We all live with us. Enough.
E
You know what?
A
Just move.
E
I can just move up here.
C
Yes, yes, you can move anywhere.
E
Oh, my God. I could just move with you, baby,
A
you can move anywhere or with you or anywhere.
E
I don't live in a ghetto. First of all, number one. Number two, I don't think she was looking for a viral moment. Number three, I could have got out the of there way faster. But I struggle with it because it's hard. You know what I mean?
A
Okay, but how far is the ghetto from where you live? And then we going to move on.
E
I'm ghetto adjacent. Like, you know how they be. They. What are they called? Not refurbished. Regentify the neighborhood. So my rent dumb high, but right down the street they rent. Not dumb high that Vi.
C
If somebody want to buy crack and
E
how far if somebody want to buy.
A
Yeah, there we go. Now we go close to my home. How that's closer to the line of.
D
Or a bike.
E
I ain't gonna lie. If you was looking for some hard. You probably could get in and walk.
C
You could probably walk.
E
You might get drop down.
C
Then you live in the wrong.
A
You should go.
B
Yeah. You shouldn't be this.
A
Honestly, you went from that to the BET Awards
D
and your cat.
B
Are there any places like near you that got bars on their windows?
A
Well, happy fourth of July.
D
Fourth of July
A
to everyone out there. Anywhere you want to go. Anywhere you want to go. I'm in. I'm down. There's no music, right. Because music doesn't drop on the 4th of July.
D
Get into a breakdown of Madonna's horrible album that came out.
A
I don't.
D
It's not good.
A
I don't. I'm fine. Which is fine.
C
I do want to say. And I don't want to talk about Madonna, but I did go back and listen to Lizzo's album again. It's better than the first time I heard it. I was too harsh on it. It's actually. It's still her worst album, Mark.
A
I gotta be honest.
C
But it's good.
B
I gotta.
A
I'm gonna tell you because last time we did like an hour Lizzo, that was it.
C
That's all I got.
A
But nobody cares. Yeah. Like, we love Lizzo. We wish her well. I can't wait.
C
But if I say something, my album is bad and I listen to it again, I feel the need to say, like, yo, it wasn't. It's better than I thought. Cause you know what I mean, we in a public platform. It's a big platform.
A
That is way to gleed it up. Lizzo salute.
D
Indeed.
C
Boom.
A
Especially on cookout day. Sorry, sorry. Okay, so what do we got? What do we got, Pooh? Shyti's idiot Taylor Swift is getting married. Yeah, it's a good one. All right, here we go. Like to hear it. Here we go. The video was released from the robbery. The video that they said they had. And it contains the contract that they said they had. I like to hear it here. Go. He dropped his D.
B
Let them know you dropping.
A
I drop.
B
You no, see, dropping 1017, shout out really ain't never did no police. None of that, bro.
E
Tell them what's going on, bro.
F
We just did.
E
They just done. What you do, you drop.
B
You said you want to be dropped. You drop
A
Said straight business. You do these is idiot think it's a straight business.
C
Straight business.
A
Anyway, sorry about that.
E
All right.
A
I'm tossing it to my street crime music court case. Snitch, rat expert, Mark A. Montalell. Not I. Oh, I thought it was Freeze.
C
Yeah. About to say that's this cow.
D
There ain't no street crime sometimes.
C
All right, well, let's. What would ish say here?
A
I don't care.
B
I don't care. He not here.
A
I can vote for here.
C
What would you say then? You the other.
B
This nigga is stupid. That's what I'm gonna say. I've been saying it. This. This was a first off. Just the. The thought to go in and say, all right, we gonna get out the deal by pulling a gun on you and making you like, y' all watch too many movies.
C
Yeah.
B
And hear too many boogeyman stories. Like, that's not how business works.
C
I mean, there was a time where
B
it was, you watch too many movies and hear too many stories. That's not how it works today.
D
Today.
A
Nah, it worked like that. They never worked like that for black.
C
Black people.
D
There's some people that got out of some contracts in the 90s and shit.
B
There were some guns into the label
D
and all that type of shit. It was effective once upon a time.
C
But today that was a different. I Gotta Remember, the 90s has been like three decades. Yeah, that's a long ass time ago.
B
And he wasn't there for that.
A
Like yesterday. Yeah, it does feel like yesterday.
B
Yeah, but he wasn't there for that. So again, you're hearing stories. You weren't there for it.
D
There was no cameras back then. You could get away with shit.
C
That's the key. Cause even if you don't get out the deal, like, you don't go to jail right now with recordings and video,
B
all that happens, especially if you have your band recorded, it ain't even like
A
somebody else caught it.
B
Secure, like surveillance footage. No get mad. Yo, dog record me robbing him and making him sign this deal.
C
And that's the shit I don't like about it too. Because it's like one thing to be like, I'm doing this for business, but then there's the clout chasing part of it. You know, when you see people on social media wearing the jewelry. Wearing jewelry that was taken. When you see people alluding to it and rap lyrics. When you see social media posts like, if y' all really doing that, then you shouldn't be doing this other thing over there.
A
See, I'll never be able to understand that part. But again, I'm not a criminal. So it's.
B
It goes back to our other conversation we had the previous part about image and all of that type of shit. Like, you take somebody chain and I could prove. You can't. You can't. What? What Drake said, you know, somebody pulling their chain and said they got robbed. Like, now if. Or you can say, yo, I lost my chain, or whatever, right? You could get out of it by saying something else happened. No, nigga, we got your chain right here.
C
Right?
B
You know what I'm saying? It's that I need to prove shit. This younger generation, all they care about is proving shit to the Internet.
A
Yo, I know young people that's killing it out there. And that's like, really bright. So I ain't gonna loop up all the young idiots with the whole generation. Young? No, these niggas are just idiots. And they located. I thought these niggas was idiots before this. But.
B
But even those who are bright. But even those who are bright, if somebody questions something about them, the first thing they do is rush to prove it. That was the whole Cheyenne Bryant thing. Hey, post it. Prove it to us. You know what I'm saying? It ain't just the idiots.
C
It's.
B
It's this Internet shit where I have to prove it to strangers, good or bad. Good or bad. If I don't post it, it's not real. It doesn't exist. I'm. I have to prove it to you strangers. But not just the bad shit.
A
Yeah, I think Cheyenne Bryant's a false parallel because there's no jail time involved with her lying about school.
B
No, I'm saying allegedly.
A
No, I said could it be? Could it be?
E
Could it be?
B
Could you go to jail time?
C
Only if you were doing a certain kind of therapy, I would imagine.
A
Interesting.
C
Yeah. But in general, no, got it. People lie about degrees all the time. Preaching.
B
I wasn't talking about on this jail shit. I'm just saying, proving.
A
You niggas need to go to, like, a crime school. Like, go somewhere and learn crime. If you dispassionate about it. Like, if you really gonna dedicate your entire life. And then I read something this morning. He got a newborn baby coming.
C
Oh, my God.
A
Did his mom come out and say he's expecting child?
B
His mom posted the ultrasound. You know, the Internet. Get the Internet. And shorty's name wasn't covered out. And they realize who that is.
C
Oh, Lord.
B
Yeah, it's a lot.
E
Who?
A
The mom.
C
The mom with the T2 like, what?
A
The mom is my famous.
E
Yeah, who is it?
B
Marissa.
A
Who's Marissa? Marissa you
B
not that.
A
No.
B
Nle Choppa baby moms.
E
Oh, shit. The old one, the bad bitch one is in her 30s. Yeah, she. You two for two with the rapper C bitch.
B
All right, they started putting.
E
Now why. Why would she do. Now that proves, you know. See, bitch, why the fuck would you do that? Damn. It just hit me how dumb that was.
B
I love mo nigga.
E
Cause you can say yikes. That's.
A
No, but that's when somebody break it down for me. I'm slow.
C
Yeah, me too.
A
I'm like, I'm listening.
E
When she was with nle Chopper, he was the, you know, her young boy. And it's like he did what young niggas do. Got cheating or. I think he broke up with her. He didn't really, because he wanted to be baby's life, but he didn't want to do the family thing. And she would blast him, and then she would take advantage of blast him all the time. If y' all remember Nleigh, Chopper tried to be, like, more open to, like, the gays and, like, different sounds, and he would do, like, anti violence type of stuff, and she'd be the first one chewing his ass up. Very good at it, girl, but she would be chewing his ass up. It's crazy because I talked about her hair before and she DM me not to say don't talk, but she didn't say, I'm 32, not 36. I don't know how old that is, but she's a bad. But just for you to drag him like that and have a baby with him, and then the second one be poo shy girl. We get to ovulate and it just makes madness.
A
That's like the tweet that's going around now with Eva from the old time of Eva talking about y' all broke up with Lance Gross because he wanted kids and I didn't want kids. And now I feel bad every time I see him because I got three kids.
C
Yeah, that's.
A
And her three kids is with politician boy. No, no, no, homeboy.
E
She got one with Kevin.
A
What's the homeboy to be? Captain Kevin Cole. Yeah.
E
This the oldest is what, Kevin McCall. The other ones are what that politician got.
A
Okay, but if you leave a Lance Gross because you don't want kids and get even a half a Kid with Kevin McCall.
E
Yeah, I mean, Kevin McCall is a little. He was like in the beginning of his shit. That's before you didn't really know he was crazy crazy till she had that chair.
B
I'm not even talking about that.
E
It happens to a lot of us.
B
We just say, like he said, lands cross.
E
All right. I don't get why. What's it called? But I cannot believe that's po, baby. W. Po.
A
You need having the good.
E
I didn't. I didn't have mentor upstate. I feel like everybody got men. It's always a good old man to help you out when you do 20, 30.
A
He need like a how to do crime book. Yeah, exactly.
E
His father advice was, hey, let's go down there. Run down on. I don't know why I keep ignoring that.
C
That's the point that I didn't like.
E
It's his fucking dad. His father's a gangster. His father's respected in Memphis. He came up as a baby gangster, baby. His father. So the fact that everybody is being blind to the fact that this boy is literally raised to be.
B
He's been saying it in his music that he got the game. He got all of that through his mind.
A
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
E
That's the reality of it.
A
No, no, no, no, no. Y' all saying these things. Why people are disregarding that fact is. Cause when you say that, it implies that because there's generations of this just. We're good at it.
E
No, that's not. That's not.
C
My dad.
A
My dad was a gangster.
C
My dad did this.
A
He raised me. He got years in. He's fly over here. That would make me believe that some crimes is off the table or we
B
just said that worked in the 90s. Don't work today. My pops is old. The way they was doing back then, he might have told me to do the way that they used to do it. But how about it won't fly today, right?
C
I got out of Stacks Records.
E
Gang culture is totally different than regular gangster culture, Right? In Philadelphia, we don't have, like, gang bangers, like, more beef over blocks. Gang culture is totally different. You will be born as a blood. That's what you are now. How I'm sure it's 50 million black men and black women that can say I was born in a blood family. I was Piru, but I went to college. I escaped or whatever. But that took some steps to be made if you're in a family where your fucking grandma has a plague, right? So that's what I say with push. I see where Memphis. Where they from in Memphis? They gang bang. I think they some type of crips. Or something. If your father's a Crip, you're a Crip riff. So if you grow up gang banging like that, then you get this blessing of entertainment. Why is anybody really shocked that that's how they handled the first contract riff? I would be shocked if this wasn't how they handled it. You know what I'm saying? If daddy didn't grow to teach him. I'm not excusing anything. I'm just saying it's more indicative of you not.
C
This explains it.
E
Extra special person to beat your. Your environment. Extra extra smart people beat their environment. Average people just do what they. What they see, what they see around them.
A
And if I'm a criminal and I've been in and out of jail and I plan on continuing my life of crime, I'm not saying fuck the feds in my music that my brain just says that would make the feds target me when I'm not trying to be targeted.
C
Sometimes you wanna hide in plain sight, though.
A
How does saying fuck the feds do that?
C
That everybody says the Fed.
A
That's not true.
B
But not everybody. Some people, a lot of people say,
C
like plenty of people rap about selling drugs and don't sell drugs. So if I was a drug dealer in real life and rapping, I might still rap about selling drugs just to get hiding plain.
B
If I'm on federal probation, I might not be saying yes.
A
That's what I'm talking to.
C
That I hear that.
A
I mean, fair point, you know, I don't have nothing to add to this. I think this nigga's the dumbest N I know. I'm forcing my brain to even say something about this stupid nigga. I want to say I'm praying for him.
E
I want to say that the police don't care about stuff like that. But it's not true. Remember when Big Meech and them got indicted? You know that that cop would drive into work to Atlanta and Meeching them had that the billboard the world is bmf every day on the way to work for this dumbass 9 to 5.
B
And I gotta look up and see
E
this ass man talking about the world is mine. I know he's selling cocaine. That was part of the reason why he invited him. So I'm sure fuck the Fed might irritate.
A
I tell you one thing totally. However they was reporting that story versus me seeing it now totally changed.
B
Whatever.
A
I was thinking about how Gucci mane boy, that was the smoothest robbery I ever seen. He was smooth, he was chilling. Gucci Mane was all right. He looked as comfortable as one could possibly look. He looked annoying with all.
B
Like, yeah, I already. You got it.
D
All right.
B
What? What's up?
A
And he looked smart.
C
Yeah, right.
B
Hands in my pockets. I ain't moving smart. Like, come on, man.
A
Hey, hey. Pooh Shasti has dropped from 1017. Oh, you did? I already said. I said Pooh Shiesty is dropped from 1017. Pooh shaity don't have nothing to do with 1017. I'm writing the paper. Pooh Shiesty ain't got nothing to do with.
B
Y' all got Draco's out. And all y' all want me to do is say this and sign this.
D
No problem.
B
And I go home.
E
Why did they take a chain, too?
C
All right.
E
Bet y' all calling these.
B
Hey, hey was Never signed to 1017. And he will never be signed to. Like, what else y' all want me to say?
A
Hey, guess who wait in 10:17?
B
Ain't nobody on 1017 no more.
F
Just me.
A
I'm closing the label. You ain't.
D
Hey, ain't no 1017.
E
And Boo looked like he was drunk or something. He looked real. No, he look dumb.
A
Yes, he look. He got a slow look to him.
E
They need to put that in his PSI that he was in the.
A
But fdo I played it again. That is hard.
E
That up.
B
He smoked that.
E
I don't know why he slow down,
B
but even in that record.
A
Yeah.
B
Said my grandmother told me to keep the grass low, but the whole time I'm the snake.
E
Yeah, it's one of my favorite lines. That horrible.
C
The music better.
B
Kind of telling you the music better
E
when they living here telling you it's like joke.
A
Unfortunately, it is. Unfortunately. Then Gucci walked over to the gun. The gun dude. The dude that was blocking the door. Yeah. Get your face on camera, too.
B
Yup.
A
Yeah, you.
B
You.
A
Now let me walk back over here. Go ahead, Gucci. Go ahead. Man, I tell you, that was smooth.
B
I'm still not with the record Gucci put out. I just didn't like it.
A
And I'm still not with you signing all the niggas that are into this behavior.
E
But mind you, so many are dead. Like, it's just such a bad.
B
They lost a lot. Lord, he lost a lot.
E
RP Big Scar and Enchanted. They were really talented people.
A
Let me tell you something. If po shy don't want to be on 1070, guess who the ain't gonna be on 10?
C
Po sh.
B
You gone. This is with a phone call, right? Huh?
E
All so they all on the bell.
B
Except. Yeah, everybody but Pushy.
E
Oh, he's not.
C
That's how we talking about him.
B
They trying to get the feds to revoke his. Cuz he's on probation. The feds. So they trying to get the feds to violate him.
E
Yeah.
B
Cuz part of that is you can't be with no guns and none of that. And here you are on video with the feds.
E
Typically like to let them outweigh one. So they do one case and then another one. So it's like if they do that, they're really on his ass. Cuz typically they just wait cuz they ain't got no they. They always win. They don't have no. You know what I mean?
B
Right.
E
The rush would be to run them concurrent so they not doing two sentences separate. But they don't give a. And they know they got you, so it doesn't matter.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Got it. Okay.
E
He's. I feel bad for you.
A
He's out of here.
B
No, he's.
A
Yeah, he's out of here.
C
You feel bad for him?
E
I do. I ain't going to lie. I feel bad for him. I feel like this the same thing with tk I feel like he didn't have a shot. Some people you just don't have a shot.
C
And I. I hear that you do
E
not have a shot. And it's like.
B
Wait, hold on, hold on.
E
K was a minor.
B
No, Tay K. Yeah, but I'm talking about Pooh Shi.
A
Shy didn't have a shot.
B
Pushy had a shot.
E
Listen, we not going. We not going to break it down to the te like y' all like to do.
C
I know what she's saying.
E
What I'm saying is, is that like I said 50,000 other times, between being grown up in gang culture and having your parents who balls in vagina, you came out of gang bang. I just think that it's hard to handle.
C
Joe, if you were about to make a terrible decision, you could call either one of your parents and they probably would tell you the opposite. Your son just did. You told us about your son.
A
I understand.
C
You know what I'm saying? I get that. At some point, though, maybe after your first case or your second case, you do gotta take some ownership of the decisions.
A
Like daddy on the phone.
E
Like, you know what time it is, son?
C
Yeah. Prison time.
A
You know how we get down, son.
C
Yeah.
E
That's what his father.
C
Well, all that.
A
Load that up.
E
Come get your daddy.
D
I know jail has to suck at 105 degrees outside.
E
Jail Is all. Whenever it's hot, it's too cold. Or when it's cold, it's too hot. Whatever. So.
C
Well, hopefully the next artist that's watching this will make a different decision. Maybe this be some cautionary tale shit for them.
A
Yeah, word.
C
Hopefully. Speaking of music, though, y' all been following this ndi this NDI Re situation.
E
I have. I talk about it so much.
B
I have.
E
I have so much to say about it.
C
Well, let's talk about it.
A
Well, let's.
B
Let's.
A
Let's do it.
C
Well, first thing that happened was this all started because of a remix that was put out when spinet was flipped in the video. India Irene's video. And so that's when India kind of jumped in and started speaking about it.
B
What did she say?
C
And she also reposted something on threads. This is important, the threads part. Someone had said, let's ban the song or let's boycott the song. And people assumed that she was supporting a boycott. Then what she talked about was. And what other people talked about was that this was bad for the culture, that this was detrimental for the culture, that, you know, that it's harmful and that she don't rock with it. I. There was a time, but she said
E
she did not say boycott. That was not her idea.
A
She addressed some of this. And I have what she said just so we are all on the same page.
E
Oh, hey, hello.
A
We love you, India.
F
That's the Erica Pandu version, by the way.
E
Hello, Hello.
F
Hey, hello, hello, hello, hello.
A
I love you, but I will times two on it.
F
Okay.
A
Don't make me do it. All right.
F
It you asked my third album testimony, volume one, like relationship turned 20 years old on Friday the 27th. It's not up on me. Somebody had to tell me. And so that's why I'm making a video right now instead of writing about this on my sub, which, if you know me, email. I like writing and you'll see that. Okay. And I've been in the vlog couple times last week.
A
Here we go.
F
I wanted to come and talk about these things. Let's talk about the easy one first. It is being wrongly reported that I think you should boycott this song of the summer. I'm not going to tell you what it is because I refuse to sing that song. But either you know what it is or you don't. If you don't, you can go find it.
A
She talked about Karisha song, y'.
F
All.
D
Thanks, Josh.
F
What I want is to see people understand the power of words and music and to make choices that are healthy for them. That's what I want. Do I think it matters what I want for people?
A
No.
F
I have finally learned that it doesn't matter and that there's no amount of sacrificing my life force energy that is going to make anybody want anything better for themselves. All I can do is emanate what I emanate, stand for what I stand for, and hope that it reaches who is meant to reach. And that's it. And that's all I'm going to do. And so my comment makes it very clear that I don't think we should boycott. My comment is tantamount to everybody doesn't want the same thing. And there are a lot of people who are saying it's just a song. Well, if that's what you think, enjoy. But what I know is that music has power. But of course, I have used that power to help some people. And I have traveled around this world twice and I see the impact of what we export out of the black American experience to the rest of the world. Longer story for another time. But I've seen it. So I know, and I'm telling you what it is. But you enjoy if that's what you want to do. And I will enjoy doing what I want to do. That's why I don't think anybody needs to boycott. I think people just need to make choices for themselves. That's what I think.
C
I like that.
E
That's.
A
There you have it. Yeah.
C
One, I appreciate her take on the boycott thing. And I think that's generally my position on art is don't boycott it. Don't legislate against it. Let people make choices. You know, I may be loud about a thing that I like or don't like, but I think people have a right to do it. I think if you would have asked me 10 years ago, I would have been completely in disagreement with India about Spin that which I like, by the way. I think it's a, you know, as a song, I think it's great. But now I get it in a different way. I understand the harm that songs have. I don't think that spin that is uniquely harmful or particularly harmful. And I've seen other comparisons, like, is it more harmful than everybody listening to Ante Up? You know what I mean? Like, it's like, no. Right? It's all no, no. So I don't want to isolate this song like it's some uniquely problematic thing. But I do think there's a conversation to have about, like, do we Want to keep celebrating songs that encourage behavior.
E
Yeah, damn.
C
See what I'm saying?
F
Like.
C
Like it's old. But I think that was. The point is, like, we've always been doing this and sometimes every generation likes to act like new shit is the new music is different. And I'm saying every generation has these conversations. As I get older, though, I do think about the harm that music causes and the damage that it can cause. And so I. I would take the position of, yeah, maybe we shouldn't.
A
Maybe we shouldn't what?
C
Rock with it. Not that we shouldn't be allowed to, just that. Me personally, maybe I need to even be more thoughtful about.
E
Maybe you shouldn't.
A
Maybe I should.
C
Yeah, maybe I shouldn't. It's probably.
A
But you never rock with it.
C
No. Remember I was like. But then I went outside and I
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was like, he came around.
C
And my opposition to the song was never the message of it. I was just like, this song is just like a. It just was like kind of.
A
But the frequencies from the song didn't make Mark turn to a life of boosting.
E
Right. But Mark is really intelligent. I think that true. First of all, shout out to India.
C
It was already boosted.
E
Shout out to India for looking amazing in that clip. She looks exactly the same. She looks beautiful.
A
Everything about indie ARV is amazing.
E
Yes. Like, the brown skin's still glowing. You look good, girl. But I think that's the part that's so confusing to me is that I'm like a real grew up in hip hop kind of kid. And I remember these conversations every time we had them. I remember when it was an NWA thing. I remember when it was a little Kim thing. I remember when it was a Louisiana. I mean, I could remember little Kim, little ass sitting on like daytime television, everybody just coming at her. You're a. Why are you doing this? You know? So it's like. It's kind of silly in that way. Also my personal opinion, the song sucks. That's when I first didn't like it. It's because how it's just so fucking ghetto. I'm ghetto, love the ghetto See the beauty in the ghetto. But that was a little too much for me. Wow. They put crack in it. Listen, hear me out. It's not. I'm not even saying, like, it's too much for me, like, because of the content. It's just corny. Like, to me, it's just repetitive spending.
C
I didn't. With the song.
E
It's corny. I'm not saying I didn't like it because it's too low vibrational. I'm saying it's just so fun.
C
You didn't like the song. Yeah.
B
So that's fine.
E
Now we all listen to it, we all like it. It is one of them songs that you heard it enough now you like it. But I think it's one of them situations where it's just like you. Well, I guess it happens a lot where you blend the cultures. That's the song you're supposed to hear in the club and at the strip club and. But now you hearing at the f reunion and your grandma is saying, turn that, spin that on baby. It's one of them songs. And I think that's what's irritating the church folk because you are going to hear it after Frankie Beverly in the mix now because it's the biggest song of the summer. Shout out to you because clearly, I mean really, she. She got a banger some kind of way out of that. And I want to congratulate. I think you. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. First it was so horrible because it sucked. Now it's so horrible because the content.
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My thing is even in terms of. Even in terms of content records, this ain't even that bad. It's not to some of all the other. We was running.
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We the clubs.
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Everybody was running around screaming Peret, Molly Peret.
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This is on the lowest possible level of whatever India trying to say.
D
I think we should take all the offensive rap songs and figure out the prison sentence and then lay it out. You know what I'm saying?
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Like, come on.
E
They always affiliated with a crime. They're going to start putting her. Some girl was allegedly boosting probably like two days ago with her. With her toddler in the car. Police officer shot the car, killed her son. But she was in that store stealing and she ran to the car. Boosting has always been a danger, a dangerous job like that. I've seen boosters get murdered just like that with the same story that she was driving the car towards security versus her trying to drive to get away with her down car. I don't know. But that's what they do. It's the same thing. They associate crimes with the song. They make it a big thing and then it's like this big effort to take the song down. It's too late, everybody.
C
I don't think. See, I think in this case, I don't think India chose this song because it was particularly bad. Again, I think it was just. Cause that's what got mixed with her, with her yeah. Which is also interesting. Cause video is basically put it in your mouth.
A
Right?
C
When you think about. So her song video and you remember you put it in your mouth.
E
Yes. Akanelli.
C
It's still in the same track. I think. It is the same track, isn't it?
D
Same sample, maybe.
C
Every part of it, I think. I don't think it's any different.
E
Akanelli. That was the classic.
C
I don't think there's any difference in putting your mouth in video from what I can think just off the top. But. So I'm saying that to say, like, it's interesting how, like, a track can be one thing, but the content. When you think about video versus put it in your mouth, there's a radically different way you experience the song. That's interesting to me and important to think about in terms of the impact it might have on the culture. I'm okay saying, look, Spina ain't in the top. 50th fucked up songs, however, use it as an opportunity to say, maybe we can listen to some different shit. Maybe we could do something. Because maybe we are reinforcing the culture of unhealthy things. I used to be one of the. Because when I first got into sort of activism as a scholar, a lot of my stuff was. My first work was around hip hop. And I was one of the people who was critical of Tipper Gore, one of the people critical of C. Delores Tucker, one of the people critical of all the people that were coming after hip hop, smashing the. The CDs and all that stuff. And now 30 years later, I'm like, they were right. How the hell was that right? Not about the. Forget about the free speech part of. Again, I support free speech.
D
I can't forget about that. It's the major part.
C
No, I'm saying that's not the part that I'm disputing. I'm saying, I begin from. Everybody should make whatever they want to make.
D
Okay.
C
My thing is. What? Why do we have an appetite for it? I want us to have a different appetite for it.
D
Why do we only do this with black music? Why don't there's mad rock songs, extraordinarily destructive.
C
Well, that's why I mentioned Tipper Gore, because she went after rock. You know, Tipper Gore wasn't particularly focused on. In fact, she was more focused on the rock stuff. I'm saying all of it.
A
Right.
C
But I have a particular interest in black music. I have a particular interest in black people.
D
Okay, okay.
C
Right.
A
But again, why does one seem to Negate the other. Like if I have an appetite for Italian, that don't mean that. I don't have an appetite for soul food. That don't mean that. Because I'm listening to this song don't mean that I'm not listening to Mary Mary or, or. Or anything else.
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Even if I'm listening. Just because I'm listening to the song don't mean I'm taking anything from the song. But the music. You know, everybody ain't running out here. I heard this record now it made me want to do X, Y and Z.
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That's a fact.
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But it's not as high as people.
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Very small percentage.
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I would put more of that. I would put more of that on movies. I would put more of that on certain video games. All of that before I put it on hip hop.
E
Very, very small amount of people are influenced by what you said. It.
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I didn't know you just changed what you said. Not influenced by. Very small percentage of people who hear something and do it and go do it.
C
Yeah. And that's in a song.
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Not influenced by.
C
And the studies as a teenager I had the psychological studies that I, you know, again, I haven't. This hasn't been my area of expertise in a while. But when I was looking at the impact of like music on people's actions, it is relatively small. People don't listen to shoot em up songs and go out and shoot people. People don't. That's not what I'm worried about. I'm talking about the broader cultural patterns and trends we have. When Jay Z told people to stop wearing jerseys, we stopped wearing jerseys. Like there's a cultural impact.
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Jay Z also said. Jay Z also says Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me.
C
Sure.
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Meaning like I'm saying, like people love to just go right to hip hop and say this is what's doing all of these things.
C
That's at the bottom of the list.
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That's fucking shit up.
C
Right. But I'm not saying that. I'm making a different argument because I agree with that argument. I don't think that, for example, there's a culture of violence in America. It's not unique to hip hop.
B
It ain't just unique to culture of violence. No, no, no, no, no. In humanity.
C
I'm making that point. I'm saying the same thing you were saying.
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Look how Karisha got us.
C
No, but she's got us someplace interesting, I think. Right. Like I would say, even down to foreign policy, our response of problems is to Shoot it or bomb it or blow it up. That's America. That's not hip hop. I'm with you. I'm with you. That's not my issue. My issue is that there are certain things in our culture that matter more to us than things that are outside of our culture. And I'm saying inside of our culture, what kind of values are we going to have? Now that I look at, think about what CD Lord Tucker was talking about, about misogyny and hip hop, what Dion Warwick was saying. I can't 30 years later, as a damn near 50 year old man with any honesty or integrity say that hip hop isn't misogynistic. Right. I just can't. That can't be true. It is, right? So if all of our songs are
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misogynistic, you threw a word in there.
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It's not all fair.
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Withdrawing. I don't wanna get not even close to all. That's the problem though.
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That's where my problem starts. Right there.
C
I said the wrong word. I misspoke.
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I'm gonna take it out. But there are a lot of people that say kind of what you're saying and they don't take the all out.
C
True, Shay, but I don't wanna lose the actual point that I'm making, which is if there is a lot of misogyny in our culture, which it is, then that does shape and influence how we think about things. I was influenced by Snoop, I was influenced by Eazy, E. I was also influenced by Diggle Plans and Most Definite. I mean, I was just influenced by All X.
B
Exactly.
C
But even some. But.
D
So I was influenced by Snoop too. But I didn't go out and start smacking. Because you said it in a lyric somewhere.
C
And again, I'm not arguing that people listen to it and run out and do it again. I'm talking about attitudes, trends, values.
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Take it inward. Well, I wouldn't do well. We're pretty special people. What about everybody else?
A
Well, my thing is I have a few points.
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I think it's the other way around. That's why I have a few points. But I'll explain what he's done. Go ahead.
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For me, I want to speak. For me, art is not just reserved for the good people. That's true.
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True.
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It ain't like some art I'm with the art that's speaking about whatever sin is from their surroundings or that they're experiencing or when they were. That I'm fly with. Sometimes it even opens the door for healthy conversations. Like India is attempting to have 2ndre has always come from a very unique place.
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Yeah.
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Like her first day on the scene, it was. We are beautiful as a people. Fuck what them people was talking about. Don't let them talk about our hair and our skin. And you are like. She was proud and kicking something that wasn't really popular. And it's never been popular really, in this. Which leads to my third point. I'm not gonna let her sit here and keep talking about. About Karisha. Karisha, Karisha. When the bigger conversation is the infrastructures that are in place that push some of the programming to certain dem. Y' all ain't gonna put this on young Miami. Y' all are not. You had Tank come up here and talk about the programming. And later in this NDR clip, she does go on and talk about Clive Davis. I maybe should have played it. But yeah, if we gonna start attacking just songs, especially the good ones, like we need to start attacking where they come from and why they come from
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and why they're being promoted.
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Why they being promoted to who they being promoted to.
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Yes.
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My next point is.
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And I don't think it stops music.
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Music and art is applicable is you decide how it's applicable to your life. Right. Like I've been vibing with this TI shit so hard. And part of why I'm enjoying it and not just him, I'm enjoying age appropriate music for me, where I am adult music that I can identify with. He on there talking about having money, going broke, being a dad, being a family, fucking grown up, making mistakes.
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Like he's.
C
I like that.
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Me too.
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I don't know if I necessarily need that when I'm in a strip club or when I'm in a nightlight or when I'm. I don't really need to hear nothing that is age appropriate for me. Give me all of the bounce that asses like a friend do Give me the I want the thick one. All of that shit that don't make no sense. This is the environment that I would like to hear that I don't leave here and now I'm programmed some type of different way.
C
Yeah. So again, I think we all agree that music isn't that one to one where you hear something, you're programmed, but
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it's that before you get to the words is what I'm saying. Music does something before a word is laid to your body.
C
That's why I use the in your mouth video comparison. Right. Cause it's the exact same track but with very different content.
A
And both hard. Both Classic for sure.
C
And I'm saying sometimes the content does change something. But I think also you're in a strip club and you're in your really late 40s, right? And you're listening to.
A
I'm not in my really late forties.
D
Late.
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You said my really late.
C
I meant you really are in your late 40s listening to the strip club. You're old enough to make that choice. And there's always been music, whether it's Millie Jackson, whether it's Clarence Carter, Rest in peace.
A
Where?
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Rest in peace. Both of them. Where you could listen to this music in the context of a certain space. But now the playing feels a little bit more level to me. So everybody's hearing everything. And so I'm not so much worried about how you respond to the scammer so much.
A
But my response to that is that, that, that's back to me saying you take what's applicable to you.
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Let me ask.
C
Hold up, hold up, hold up. I'll say to the 16 year old. That's my point.
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That's what I was about to ask.
C
That's what I mean.
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That's what I'm the Beatles about beating their women.
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And it's a problem. I'm not.
D
Johnny Cat has.
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I'm not saying those are okay. I'm saying it's all a problem. And I'm saying we should probably be more critical of it.
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Mark, let me ask you a question. Do you think that there are teenagers the up that will hear, spend it and say, oh, I need to start scamming?
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Yes.
C
Honestly.
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Yes.
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Yes. But that's not my. Again, my argument is, I'm not saying. However, there is a scammer culture and there are people who scam. And if I'm already mixed up with scammer culture and my favorite song is about. Is about scamming. Yes, I think that might be so
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I've already been in scam. Like scamming ain't new.
C
That's why I'm not blaming the music. I'm saying the music is a factor that makes things hard. We have an opportunity when we listen to something, it could make things the same. It could make things better or it could make things worse. I'm saying maybe sometimes make some shit that makes things better.
E
Listen, I'm not.
C
And it's not on Caresha. It is on the industry, it is on the system. It is on all the bigger shit. It's the same thing with gangsta rap. We could have kept listening to different kinds of shit. Gangster rap, had money in it, but partly because it was about killing niggas.
E
Can I ask a question? Why isn't anybody addressing what she says when you. She says, I've traveled the world twice and I've seen the impact that black culture has on the world. I've seen that y' all don't.
C
That's a fact.
E
Most of y' all have never seen it. So that's a fact.
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That's a fact that black culture impacts the world today.
E
Right. But when we giving it out and that's what she's saying. Like when we giving it out this way. I'm assuming she's saying what they think of us. Is that what she's talking about?
C
I don't think she's knowing her a little bit.
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It.
C
I don't think she's primarily concerned with how the world sees it. I think she's more worried about us internally.
A
How they respond to us, how they react to us, how they emulate us, how they adore us, how they take the fashion, how they take this lingo, how they take the hairstyle. She's talking about the impact that we have.
C
Yeah, that may be what you're trying
E
to say, impact on the world.
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But we giving other out too.
E
Around the world.
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We giving other out too though.
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Listen, I'm just saying. And that's the thing that I think is important about these conversations for me. When a person comes off with I traveled the world twice and this is what I saw from Epic, I'm. That's catching my ear because I haven't traveled the world. So it's like. And it's a different way of thinking of it because we do run. I just watched a Japanese bar, Korean bar, these doing Jodeci whole bar, boots and suit jackets. Like we really do run to that point, you know. So that's something I've never thought of. And I'm also somebody that has never traveled the world. So that's why I just the part
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that also annoys me with this when people say that. When people say that, they make it seem like this is all we're giving to the world is this side over here.
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Correct.
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The best selling albums of this year rap wise are what Drake and J. Cole. Are they rapping about scamming? No, they're not.
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And Don Tolliver. But don't you.
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And my thing is when it come to females rapping, right? I mean we should have had our fucking female, our women leader role models jump in a long time ago. This scamming song is del. Least if we Just talking about the
C
women raps of the last
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pink booty hole brown ran.
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It was quiet now y' all all listening to lyrics. Cool. So we breaking down.
D
That is just anatomy.
A
We breaking down every word in the hook. But. But in the clubs when this song come on, it's with jobs throwing money. It's in suits throwing money. The World Cup, Ecuadorian. When they. They come and they throw them like. Nobody is really focused on the scammer portion of this record.
B
Yeah, it's a catchy song. She caught one and they not. That's what happened.
A
And she knew what part to make catchy spin that. She didn't say scammers spin it. Scammer, scam and spend.
B
It
A
was just a simple spin that. Yeah, that's anybody. Hey, my son, my son, when he take all my money off the dresser, Spin that cursive.
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Oh, nah, look, my girl son. He thought because on the radio they just say spinach. But she said real fast.
E
Spinach, spinach. I'm like the spinach Play spinach all the time.
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Spinach chips.
C
Spinach.
A
No, dog. I wanted to go to house dinner the other day, and I just started singing spinach dip in my head off of that.
C
I did.
E
Yeah. She about to get an applebee Spinach dick. Spinach.
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Spinach dip.
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Sp. Go here, Miami, get that money.
A
Hey, that's a good one.
E
Aquarian. Let's go.
A
And yo, Miami, you ain't got to give a about what none of them is talking about. As hard as you work to get one of these after your broke up. That's the other girl. Bust her. She was left for dead hoe.
B
Everybody clowning you. Soon as it happened with dude, everybody. Ah, look now. And she fought through that and came out with one like, come on, man. Now y' all want to start popping. No, no, no.
C
I don't think it's about.
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And I didn't like the song at first, so I want to make it seem like I was one of them day one.
E
But it's a good fucking.
C
Like, when you out, it's so outside.
A
You guys, one at a time, please.
C
I'm sorry.
B
When you outside, that record does exactly what you needed to do.
C
Yeah.
B
Can't deny that.
C
I just wish it were a little more. I mean, I think about. So we don't stay in the exact same place. I was thinking about hip hop and its impact positively. Right. For example, growing up. Growing up, we heard a lot of records about people whose dads wasn't there. I think that mattered.
E
I agree.
C
Like I think hip hop made it not cool to be a deadbeat dad.
E
Fucking agreed.
C
I think hip hop did some amazing shit for it. And people don't rap about. Yo, I had two kids. Never seen them niggas like, you don't rap about that shit now. Some of them do it, but they don't rap about it.
A
I don't even. I don't like that. I don't like that.
C
What?
A
Cause as a rap. That's true at some point in hip hop, depending on where you were introduced. Yeah, I didn't hear none of that when I was introduced to. I didn't hear a peep about nobody having a dad in the 80s. Oh, on LL radio. I didn't hear him say it. Kid and play rock him slick wig, greatest adventures.
C
I think it's a very run dmc.
A
I didn't hear him say it like that Wasn't my introduction to hip hop
C
a bunch of father mine either. I'm thinking about the 90s. I'm thinking about from Biggie. I'm thinking about Edog. I'm thinking about. I mean, actually, everybody damn near right.
E
I feel like in the 90s, N
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OG is the first time I heard somebody say, hey, man, do this shit.
C
Be a dad. But I'm less thinking about the positive message because again, the positive message becomes, like, didactic. And sometimes it's like, that's not the thing you want. I'm talking about just people telling their own experience. And the same niggas that's talking about shooting people, the same niggas that talking about fucking, all that shit. They also were saying, like, yo, my pop wasn't there and it mattered. I think it mattered single. So I'm saying in the same way that hip hop has an ability just culturally, to impact how we think about fatherhood in a positive way. I don't want to. I can't give hip hop credit for that and not also hold hip hop accountable for ways that culturally we might be influenced by some other shit that's different.
A
Hold hip hop accountable. But I mean, it's gonna get heavy. It's much bigger than hip hop once you do that.
D
Yeah, it works.
E
That shit is, like, so frowned upon right now. Like niggas. Oh, I don't hang with niggas that don't take care of their kids. And I do think hip hop has something to do with that. And I do think it has something to do with so many rappers in the 90s and 2000s talking about how they didn't have a dad and how that made them feel. Make letting other black men or men be able to express it did hurt my feelings that I don't know my father. It does hurt my feelings that I can't have a conversation. My father. Everybody say I look like him. Beanie Siegel talking about his father. Yeah, that. And I do think it matters. And it is taboo. And I think that hip hop has a part of that. That's a great point. I never thought about it.
C
I just want to think about on both sides, that's all. Just, we got a chance to do something different. But I don't. I don't want to. I don't want to. Pickle. I don't want to. I wanna beat this conversation.
A
Listen, it's Fourth of July weekend, man. See your kids, go outside and find your dad if he's lost.
B
And if you. I'm about to say, and if you at the cookout, you gonna. His spin that a lot.
A
The funny shit is, dad, don't never be lost far away.
B
He right there.
A
He'll be back. Go to the park, yo.
C
He is not far.
A
If you take a drive and just do like this, you gonna find your dad.
C
You know how many people I know who don't know their dads, who don't fuck with their dads, or dads don't fuck with them, and they live like
A
two and the dad is right there.
C
That's crazy. That was crazy to me. I always thought if you were like, abandoning your kids, you'd at least go to the other side of town.
A
When I was going through whatever I went through with Trey's mom, that was the thing that was blowing my mind. It's like, yo, we and Corey going through all this shit and I'm literally 15 minutes away.
B
Wow.
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That's a fact.
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Facts.
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All.
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There you go.
B
Gotta spin that playing in the background.
A
No, I don't. I can't play that now that I live with a family.
D
Oh, that's true.
A
That song.
D
They might get influenced, that song.
A
We was in the shower this morning. I was like, yeah, man, I might. I might go out tonight, said I.
B
It's not I.
D
How'd that go?
F
It's.
A
We not greatly asked to.
E
Y' all shower together.
B
We like.
E
That's the thing. When you shower with your.
B
When you first move in.
E
Yeah, that's the thing. It's so cute at first.
B
Yeah.
A
When does it first. Yeah, when does it stop?
B
It's gonna stop so quick.
F
I know.
A
I never wanted to stop.
D
You're a day. What? Three.
A
I'm day three. No, no, no. Let me not front on you. That's our thing.
D
She wasn't too hot in there.
E
That'd be the thing, so I think it's such a bonding thing. Not when you. When you just, like, watch, like, just.
A
Yeah, like, she do my feet and my back and stuff.
E
I think that's so nice.
A
And we got dual shower heads. We got dual sh. Now, the thing about it. Now, when you cut on the other shower head, my faucet struggles. Oh, my.
E
Yeah, that's a problem. See, that's when that get weary. You know what I mean? When the space get a little. That basket a little too fat, it keep bumping. She gets soap on you when you already rinse, it's like, bitch, get the fuck on.
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Not just that again. That's your thing right now. But now that you live together, there is no time that you're really away from that other person. You gonna want that shower by yourself.
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Bathroom is Your recipe.
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I'm telling you something. And I'm on some OCD Virgo shit. So we be in there together and she got this long, beautiful hair. But so when she get to washing it, I just hear the boys in the saxophone. I just see globs of fucking chunks of hair going down my.
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Oh, my God, you get the little squeegee out.
A
Oh, my God. She noticed it now, so she tried
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to pick it up.
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Let me shut up before she come in here.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, listen, choose your picks carefully and don't forget, please, please, pretty please, I beg of you, no matter where you're listening to this, the most important part. Go ahead and use promo code JBP to get 50 instantly when you play your first five dollar lineup up only on prize picks. The official partner of the NBA. All right, Mona, we are going to
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talk a little sports, but it's Philadelphia
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sports, so I know what happened, guys.
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Oh, for real?
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Yes. Because I woke up and I saw the tweet that said, who's dumber, Pooh shy or the Celtics?
A
And I researched it and it means that they.
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We got that guy Jaylen from the Celtics to come to us, right?
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Jaylen Brown.
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Jay Brown.
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Congratulations. Congratulations to us.
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That's facts. All right, I'm gonna mute up and let the Philadelphia portion of this podcast do whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
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Well, no, this is real simple. Philly's back up.
A
That's it, man.
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Put the word back out there, man.
C
Put the word back out.
B
Right? We back up.
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We sent it to the group chat. We was hyped in. Jaylen Brown just got traded to us for a very favorable deal. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Good looking, yo, man. It was a good look for Philly.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yo, big dog.
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All that six and.
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The world's most famous battlegrounds. This.
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Wait a minute.
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With one poster to hang you with
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a great they, man. I'm sorry.
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That was rude.
A
That was rude.
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I'm sorry. But now, Jaylen, first of all, y' all crumbling.
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Mark just.
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Did you see my man on Instagram talking to OG No. Mitch was like, look, it ain't go the way y' all thought it was. I hope the truth comes out soon. You're crumbling.
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I took the that to mean the exact opposite of what you're saying. I took that to mean the Knicks, who I kind of been reading to Tilia. I don't really feel like they was the happiest with Mitch and they just trying to keep this down. They didn't want them.
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That's cool. That's cool. But whatever.
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You worry about the losers, you shouldn't. We ain't get our rings yet open at night.
B
All right, cool.
A
The jewelry stores is closed still.
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That's fine, bro.
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That's fine. We traded for Jalen.
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We did.
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Got some big. Some big free agent signers. The team is looking good. And we one player away from a championship. One more, and you know who he is.
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You know who is it?
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Come on. LeBron James. The king.
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We are in.
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Oh, my God.
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King is coming.
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We're on the short list.
A
We on the short list.
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We are on the short list. I didn't talk to my sources.
A
Mark don't have a backbone at all.
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Are we going to get him, guys?
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Mark is so spineless.
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I am not spineless.
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So you about to sit here and beg for LeBron to get to you?
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Yes.
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After all you said about Bronny James.
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I never said nothing about LeBron James.
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James.
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I'm not begging for Bronnie. Although I'll take. We got a spot for you. LeBron James senior and junior.
A
I don't even know if LeBron is going to Philly after the stuff Jaylen Brown had to say about Bronny being in the league.
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Throw it out there and hope he hear it and don't come. Cause you get nervous.
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He loves Jaylen Brown and he loves Joel and B. And he loves Tyrese Max. He loves the squad. Rich Paul has pieces there. We are good.
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We looking good.
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But LeBron. Look, listen to me. Listen to me. There are a lot of people out there that don't fuck with what you're doing right now.
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That's a good.
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But we love you.
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We do.
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Philadelphia's the perfect city for you. You'll be a starter here. You'll be another champion here.
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We'll treat you great.
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Mona, break it down for them. Please explain to LeBron why he should come to Philly.
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Cheesesteaks. Friendly people.
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Very brotherly love.
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Love loyal fans. Sisterly affection they don't know about.
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Talk about it. Talk about it now.
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Okay. Dune Day Festival. We have great barbers.
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Brian is a music head.
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Philadelphia.
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That's right. You could be local. See? Unhoused in a cipher that kills it.
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You don't want to go to Cleveland. You don't want to go. To go to.
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You did that already already.
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You like.
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You don't want to go to Golden State. East coast.
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East super clean.
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Cleanest city on earth.
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You.
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You like Rocky.
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Beautiful women.
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The steps is all right.
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All Right.
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We got you guys. We got it.
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We did our best.
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We got it. You. Was that your pitch? Was that the.
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Yeah, I think it's going work. I think we sold it. I think we sold.
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We got them, we got them.
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We got.
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I got something for the wife, but tell me when. Tag me in.
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What do y' all think about the Celtics handling of Jaylen Brown? I don't want to spend a whole bunch of time on Shameful. Boy. Does it feel racist? Ain't no feel in it.
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I don't. It's two things happening. It's some behind the scenes shit with some player personnel shit. That's interpersonal. It feels to me it's about the players, not even about management. I don't know who's right. I don't know who's wrong. But Jalen and somebody ain't clicking from what I'm hearing. I think that's part of it. Then the reports y' all talking about where they say he act like he's the smartest person in the room. So that started to feel racist. Yeah, that's the part that felt very racist. But I'm not sure that that's the biggest factor. But it's definitely the second biggest factor.
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So you think it's. You think it's some team.
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Well, in totality with we not. We two years removed from him being the finals mvp, we not even a few months removed from him turning them into the second seed with no Jason Tatum. I mean, his performance, plus how he's being handled. It feels that little. He's the smartest person.
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I was insane.
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That feels disgusting. That's like when a guy's in. Now I can't. I can't with her because she's a hoe. It's like, that ain't why. That ain't. What does that have to do with anything?
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Right, Right. That's my point.
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He's the smartest person in the room. Like, what are we talking about?
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He might be the smartest person.
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I want to say.
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And yeah, I hear he's brilliant.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Like had a NASA internship, waiting for giving lectures at. Was it mit? I almost get the school wrong. But extremely smart person.
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And I mean, a few other things that just throw in the mix. I was listening to Draymond Green's part, and he was talking about how it's really difficult to move a contract when the guy makes $70 million a year.
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Yeah.
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So I'm sure that has something to do with. With them wanting to get from under it. But my Thing with that is y' all are the ones that gave him the contract, and you gave it to him not too long ago, which should have said what you thought of him. So to go from that to this, in the span of, you know, them
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stat dorks, though, are saying, like, you know, his numbers are empty calories and that to make 70 million, you need to be a generational kind of talent. And he's not that. That's what the stat nerds are saying. And they're saying that he's kind of underplayed his contract despite his great numbers.
A
But the stat nerds are ruining a lot of different fields. Yes.
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Yes.
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I mean, it's not just music. It's sports. They out there. We got eyes. We know what Jaylen Brown is and what he does. So for him to get to the Sixers, along with Anthony Simmons, who I like a lot. Or is it Simons?
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I don't know.
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I'm bad with names, but I like him a lot. Listen, Philly's putting some stuff together.
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They are. Yeah.
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And we got out of some bad days.
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They got our third string center, they got hook Port champion. He can go over there and teach y' all what it's like to get past the semifinals, get past the conference.
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So can LeBron James.
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Well, LeBron James is not there. And since he's on his way. No, he's not.
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I'm tracking the plane. It's on the way.
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Yes. We've been holding. He's coming.
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When else do men beg like this? You niggas Gonna beg for LeBron?
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Yes, yes.
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Sports.
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Beg. Shameless.
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We beg. We begging. Sports.
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What a bunch of bitches.
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Whatever.
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All right?
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He's saying that because they just walk Jaylen Brown. You got to the right city. Philly is on exactly what you want.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Black, smart, Muslim. He perfect for Philly.
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He's Muslim. Yeah, boy.
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He actually fast during the season.
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They already got your spot at the Mash, Jib boy.
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And Paul George, don't you worry, you gonna hear all the nigger boys. You gonna hear all the racial slurs. Yes, he is.
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No, he not.
A
Yes, he is.
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He ain't gonna be.
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Yeah, I'm about to say he be on his podcast.
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He gonna play.
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Paul George gonna play a couple games. I feel bad for Paul George that it's always his name attached to the worst possible trade ever in the history of the NBA. It's gonna happen about three or four times now.
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They said he's the most, like, valuable trade piece in NBA history. When you look at all the people who've been traded for him would have to be from OKC to. Yeah, it's been insane. Another piece is the Lakers. They've made some moves.
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Snowtime. That's right, Snowtime.
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I have never seen a team that
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white post Jim Crow.
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Not since Jim Crow. Not since my people could vote. Have I seen them put together a team with that many white starters who was supposed to be the anchor of the team?
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They look like the old school Duke teams. Yeah, they should look crazy looking at that. Which was only a surprise to Stephen A. Smith. I never thought that Luca was going into the executive suite to say, hey, bring in some blacks. See, I never felt like that.
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Do you feel like.
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I don't even see him dap nobody black. It all start weeking. Nothing about Lucas? Yeah, it's just him. It's him and joke at the whole
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time, give me some white boys out.
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Do y' all feel the way that Stephen A. Said, like, you can't win with this many white people?
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No, no.
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See, I do. I don't like that.
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Oh, Mark. Yo, didn't we say no more activism?
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This is an activism.
A
It is you activism in for the whites.
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No activism. I'm saying, like, you can win with white people. Give me the right whites.
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Yeah.
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It ain't a political issue. I'm saying, you get the right three white people, you can win.
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That's not true.
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White men can't do it. You don't think you can win with
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Luka and Jokic, and
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that ain't that, though.
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No, that's my point. They got the wrong whites.
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Okay.
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That's not saying you can't.
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Well, they don't have hardly much more money to go get the whites that you talking about. And they don't have any draft picks for the next seven years to go get some of the whites you talking about in a black sport, you do need black people. I know Elon Musk is gonna hate to hear that, but you're gonna need some. And you're saying, can you win with the right whites? I'm sure you could if you get to the perfect ones.
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Yeah.
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These whites chances of that are very slim. They kept Vanderbilt, though. And they got Colin. Colin Sexton. So there's two blacks.
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Tokens.
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Tokens.
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It's the wrong city, you know, it's also the wrong city to have many white people.
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That's the crazy Boston.
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Sure, you talk Minnesota, maybe, maybe. But you can't just walk around LA
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with a whole team full of whites. Craziness can't do that.
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It's bad for business.
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Too much LA history.
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You can't back to Boston.
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Bad for the image of la.
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Yeah, it's perfect for Boston.
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Back to Boston for a quick second. I was reading something that said that part of the Jaylen Brown debacle that's not being discussed is how private equity is taking over sports. And these are the decisions that come about when private equity is running things. Yeah, they said so a couple years ago, the PE niggas come in, they take control of the Celtics, which is them wanting to share salary. They said that they also have a 10% stake in in dispers, the same PE firm.
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Oh wow.
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That's not okay.
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Which should be a total. It should be a. Want me to find it? I'll buy it. Cuz this.
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You. You can you do that?
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Apparently, yeah.
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Must be some kind of loophole. But I. I don't like it.
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Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like that at all.
A
Talking about, can we do that when we got Malik Beasley out here on
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the running amok stealing the ball from his own teammate.
A
NBA is betting association.
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That's good.
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Let me see. I think I have this clip. Let's see. Yeah, Jalen Brown wasn't traded because of bad blood with the team, but because the owner of the Celtics doesn't really own the Celtics. Jalen is the latest victim of private equity in pro sports. And I promise you it's only getting worse from here. Last year when the Celtics sold the Bill chisholm and his PE backers for $6.1 billion, we all kind of saw this coming.
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The deal was actually illegal from the jump. Here's my friend Jun Lee to explain.
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Sixth street puts in more money than Chisholm, a structure that violated the NBA's
A
rules on how much private equity can own for an NBA team. Despite that, Celtics publicly announced the sale anyway, with Chisholm as the lead buyer. That public announcement helped Chisholm raise money
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from other investors, allowing him to reduce
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6th Street's percentage after the fact. Essentially, Bill is more puppet than owner. Sixth street has the real power, which
C
allows him to run the standard PE playbook.
A
Think about the Celtics like. Like Jersey Mike's, which also sold to
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private equity over the last few years.
A
We all noticed the subs have a little bit less meat, but they're still
C
good enough to buck. That's the idea behind the Jalen Brown trade.
A
Sure, he's a superstar in the middle
C
of his prime, but he's expensive and only getting more expensive on his next contract.
A
Will the team be as good with Paul George?
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Of course not.
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But they'll still be competitive in the east.
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And fans are.
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You get the point.
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Okay.
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Jersey Mike's. He brings up a good point. I noticed what y' all are doing now. I paid an extra 179 for x extra meat, but that just get paused. But that just gives you the meat that you got before the normal. Yeah, yeah. Jersey.
C
This is why Jersey's not. Can't be trusted for food. Jersey Mike's. Who would eat at a place called Jersey Mike's?
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I love a Jersey Mike's sauce.
A
Mark, you built your home in New Jersey. You found the love of your life.
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Yeah.
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You are a New Jersey.
A
New Jersey embraced her. I met her in Philly after CNN treated you horrible. But you asked her where she was from. She told you Jersey and you came.
C
I dated her anyway.
D
Yeah.
A
And then you moved. You didn't make her move to Philly like a real.
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That's what we did. We stayed there for two years.
A
Oh, really? In Philly?
C
Yeah.
E
That's what we was north at that.
A
And then it was time she went downhill.
B
She said, enough of that.
C
People kept stealing our food off the porch. It was like, all right, it's time to shit.
B
She's like, enough of that.
C
Yeah. Once she saw me chasing that homeless dude down the street for that sandwich, she was done.
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It was time to go.
A
Next season in the NBA is going to be absolute cinema. I can't wait for the Christmas games to be announced. I can't wait for opening night. Opening night to be announced. Anything. Sixers, Celtics is going to be cinema.
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Amazing.
A
I cannot wait to see it. He's gonna try to kill fucking Tatum and them boys.
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Oh, yeah.
A
That was a nasty trade. I wanna say that we ain't felt a trade nasty like that in a while, but the Luca trade wasn't too long ago.
B
Yeah, but not straight. Not to your. Like, your division rival.
C
That's almost disrespectful to us.
B
Yeah, when you do that, it's disrespectful.
C
We think you ain't shit. We gonna trade you to a division rival.
B
We going right there.
A
I mean, y' all are in the division.
B
Yeah.
C
And now we're a rival.
A
I don't think nobody is viewing y' all like a rival to the Celtics.
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We are better than the Celtics right now.
A
Please. The game is not played on paper. Oh, the game is not played on paper. You do not know that you better than the second seed Celtics. You don't know that.
C
We just beat them home. Are you high? We just beat them in the playoffs, put them out, and now we took their best player. How are we not better?
A
Well, they were injured and that's not their best player.
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He was the best player in the playoffs.
D
Yes. This year he was.
C
Yes. I think it's fair to say if you beat the team, you're better than them. Fair.
D
Yes.
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Yes.
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So he's. We just beat them. Put them out the playoffs.
A
Beat him at full strength. Beat him at full strength.
C
We just took.
A
Like we did last year.
C
We just took. Yeah.
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You know what? Ask Huck Porty. Ask Huck Porty. He's been there a little while. He can explain.
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I hate him. This. This going to feel so much better when we beat you. I can't wait. You can get us back tenfold.
A
You can wait. You've been waiting since 19. 1983.
C
He was waiting for.
A
Y' all can wait. It's been a while, right? Was it 82 or 83?
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83.
A
Was that Moses Malone in them? Who's on that team? Was that. What's my other man? The big Ralph.
E
Ralph?
C
No.
A
Ralph Sampson?
C
No. The wrong team. That's wrong.
A
That's Houston.
C
That's you.
A
Who the fuck was on that?
C
It was Maurice Cheeks. Andrew Toney. Oh, I like that. Dr. J. Moses Malone. Yeah.
A
You mean Malone and Bobby Jones. Maurice Cheeks is with the Knicks now, so I won't disrespect him.
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OG hall of Fame point guard.
A
Yeah, hall of Fame championship assistant coach.
C
Now, I think he probably is more important being championship assistant, starting point guarding
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point guard, assistant coach. You know what I'm saying?
C
Tomato, tomato. Yeah.
A
You know, don't worry, y'. All. Y' all can wait. It's fine.
E
Men.
A
Yo, you know what's funny? Y' all sound like the Magic fans last season when they got Bane and they was talking to me crazy. I ain't gonna sports niggas.
C
We don't.
A
No, we don't. No, it ain't. I'm just talking about the talk. I'm just only talking about fans. The. The Magic fans thought that. Oh, y' all better look out when the next season we got Paolo.
D
Brown is not Brown and Ban is not.
A
We not. All right, well, we not scared of Brown. Maybe that flies with somebody else.
B
You scared if we get Brown?
A
We not. That should be a little worrisome.
E
Yeah.
A
I'm not gonna sit here and lie.
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I appreciate the honesty.
A
I tweeted yesterday how much money The Sixers got left I can deal with. Because some of them shits. Well, y' all got Dean Wade. Like, it's enough, enough.
C
Now y' all got weed.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Y' all got too many. What else is happening?
C
It's apology time.
A
Oh, shit. Yep. Nah. On game.
C
Thank you.
A
Y' all owe me and Mark an apology.
C
Oh, this son of a bitch.
A
No, honestly, I can't lie. No, I can't tell a lie. Y' all owe me and Mark an apology. We tried to tell y' all when it came to lavar Ball. Don't always trust the first person that runs to the airwaves to say they side of the story. Sometimes there's more to be revealed. But no, y' all ran with the narrative.
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Parks, I sent you the clip. Cause I don't trust him.
A
She had. She had a stroke, and he was there for her. And then the second he get his leg amputated, she's not there for him. Y' all gotta get off the Internet, yo.
C
So if y' all remember.
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On God.
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And I wish Flip was there, too. Cause he was. You know, he was co. Signing your bullshit last week when lavar Ball came out and said that his wife left him and all this shit. And y' all was all caping for LaVar Ball. And I said, hey, there might be another side to this. Flip was on my ass, Ice was on my ass. And Joe. And Joe. Yes, you, sir. And Joe was the main one talking about Mark. Just run to defend any woman, no matter what happens.
A
Which is still a fact
B
that don't negate the other.
A
Mark is a bitch. But he's right.
C
I was correct. And here's the thing.
A
No, he's a feminist. But that's separate from what I'm saying. He's a.
C
Here's the thing. I already knew the story. I already knew what happened with lavar Ball. Yeah. I just wasn't going. It's not my business to tell. So I said, I'm just gonna throw out. And I told you that off camera.
E
He treated that white woman like a slave. And he didn't help her when she was sick. Her family helped her when she was sick. That's bullshit.
C
I have no comment on that. That's not my business. But what I will say is, that's the point. Just because somebody run out first and say some shit don't make it true. Don't make it not true. But it don't make it true. And all y' all talked all that shit to me, made it sound like I was pulling this shit out my ass and then sure enough, the son Lonzo ball comes out and says this.
A
Who's trustworthy, right?
E
Know that.
B
Then there's been an uproar about the situation. I'm going to touch on it briefly. First and foremost, I want to say I love both my parents.
D
But the situation that is put before
B
for y' all is not how.
A
How it went down.
C
I'm not about to get into all
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the details, but long story short, my mom didn't want to leave. She was quote, unquote, quote unquote, damn near forced to leave. I helped her leave. I'm glad.
A
Shut your mama's boy ass up. Put her up nice up.
D
Pops is good.
B
They obviously don't with each other, but I with them both. And she was not wrong at all. She did not leave him because he left.
A
Left is because he lost his foot.
B
That's a myth that was put out there.
C
But have I seen.
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I don't know. But my dad did a great job raising us. My mom did a great job raising us. They didn't work out. And it is what it is, man. They both doing well and I love them both.
A
And this is how. Unless you want to say something. Well said, D. This is how I know. Like I don't need activist Mark here to let me know that I'm misogynistic. For real though, this is how I know. I don't know what Levar did, But insert some stuff like make up whatever we think he did. Oh, he was cheating, he had a secret affair. He had a new family on the other side of town. Like just put anything in there damn near except for like abuse, right? But if you letting a one legged nigga abuse, you got.
D
Wait a second now kicking someone out when you only got one first.
A
No, wait, wait.
E
Hey.
A
If you can't hop away, if you can't run from the nigga hopping after you, then get your ass over here, girl. Get your ass over here also. So I don't think it was no view. I'm sorry, bro. Let me just get this out. So what I'm saying, anything that you put in there, I still feel like she shouldn't have left. I still feel like she shouldn't have left. All right, listen, listen. You was on your ass and I maintained you and my other bitches, I nursed you back to health and my side and my other bitches didn't bat a eye. The determination, the willpower that goes into that. And now here you go. Now, the second I get My leg cut off and have bitches now.
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You out.
E
Why are y'. All.
A
Now Lonzo. Do Lonzo have a job up?
E
No.
A
Do we have an NBA team?
B
Motherfuck.
A
Is he talking about now we got to hear from him about family matters.
D
He's a podcast, first of all.
E
What. At what point.
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This really went different than I thought.
E
At what point do you have sympathy for getting your foot amputated with diabetes? It's like, come on. You know what I mean? Is that the skipping of a donut of a coffee or whatever? You know what I mean? Like, come on. I don't feel bad. You lost your foot after 50 years with diabetes. That's crazy. Saying my. It's saying what's going on. That's the truth. You cannot. That whole thing was a spin. That's why I used it that way.
A
Okay, It's a good spin.
E
Listen, it's a great spin.
A
It's a wonderful interview.
C
I hope.
E
In reality. In reality. Come on.
A
Come on.
E
Get your foot amputated after having diabetes for a thousand billion years. Stop it, guys. It's a scam.
B
And we've seen a bunch of times.
E
This ain't when really, really. She held it down. She was treated like a slave.
A
Well, I don't know that.
B
I said y' all might know that. I'm saying we've seen a bunch of times where one kid is just closer to this parent and just believe what they said and ran. We don't know.
A
He helped her move out like a.
E
Or a good son.
C
Exactly. Like everybody in here would do.
E
Them kids have reported how.
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But I don't mean I know what happened.
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I'm gonna tell y' all what happened over Aaron, and y' all go.
B
I'm just saying. I don't mean I know what happened.
A
Well, you really know what happened.
E
Yes.
C
That's the whole point. Last time.
E
No.
A
They cut this off and tell me. Cut this off.
C
Stop to.
A
Hey, Morgan, we know. Hey, get the.
C
Out here. Y' all are terrible people, every single one of y'.
A
All. Now that we know, I'm more on his side. Facts. Are you kidding me?
E
That's sad.
A
Oh, please. You lucky he ain't have his. His cane by.
C
He was able.
A
He was able to.
B
Moms ain't give him his own sneaker.
E
Those kids have said how mean that he was to them when he were little.
B
Joe Jackson was mean.
A
Hey, Steve Jobs employee said the same thing. Look at Apple today.
B
Sometimes you gotta be mean to get
E
him to start him. I'm only saying that to say that it wasn't this picture perfect thing over there. He was treating that lady rough.
A
We knew it wasn't picture perfect when he went on Sports center and said he could beat Michael Jordan in a one on one. We knew he had. We knew that he was off, but who cares? He sent three kids to the NBA. One of them stayed. One got a one, got a rap career.
D
Rap career.
A
One of them got a record deal with Def Jam.
D
$13 million.
C
Two that big money.
A
I ain't gonna affirm. Women put too much focus on the cheating. You know, how much that was dealing with, you know, diabetes, raising these kids. One of them brought some crash out to the crib to try to take the whole family's money. Had to deal with that like this. Had to deal with a lot of. Here you come now. Want to take me off my dean to focus on my secret family. No, Ma, you can't do that. No, you can't.
E
My secret family was a secret terrible.
A
My kids don't even get to the league. Yeah, it works.
B
I held it down with the secret family.
A
My secret family loved me with one leg. Here you go complaining now.
C
They say secret family. I ain't never say secret family.
E
Right.
C
I said it, okay?
A
That ain't enough. That ain't enough for me. Secret family. Now you leave it so happy.
C
Oh, she's elated that she been released
E
from the grips of that.
C
But he did some ill to make to force her hand at the end.
A
Do you want to cry? Do you want to cry in the garden or the wild?
D
He didn't include this tea.
C
Y' all cut me off and says, mark, shut the fuck up. Let's go back.
A
His first tea was trash.
C
I was telling you in chronological order. I was telling you in order.
A
Oh, there's more.
C
You know what? Fuck y'.
B
All.
C
You know, let's move on.
E
Always listen.
C
I know you do. I'll tell you later. I'll tell you later anyway. But yes, fuck y'.
F
All.
C
Y' all owe me an apology. Next time, trust me when I say there's more to the story.
A
Y' all owe me and Mark an apology for rushing. For rushing the judgment.
E
That was it.
A
I told y' all shady asses. Don't believe everything you hear.
D
Never can.
E
That was the appetite Lonzo Ball.
A
When the we start listening to Lonzo Ball about anything. Yo, about anything.
C
It seems like a reasonable thing to start with, though, bro.
B
He got Lonzo Ball drafted number two to the Lakers.
C
He said, I love my dad. He ain't mad at his dad. He just knows that up.
E
He know his dad.
A
He got Lonzo Ball drafting in front of Luca. The fuck are we talking about? What are we. His job is that he should get. He should get the fuck.
C
A couple bitches, Bridges.
A
He should get to have a couple families.
E
You see what that son did when he got that girl Nikki pregnant and left and went to the other one. You leading them children the wrong way.
D
Probably listen to too much rap music.
B
Yep. Spin that. Don't spin that.
C
Y' all are terrible.
B
Oh my God.
E
That's the fact. Y' all are terrible. That part we got. This is a classic.
D
It's a bop.
E
And he's talking about scamming too.
A
I love this song.
E
Swiping cards and stacking chips I absolutely
A
love Hold Up Now. But I can't sleep through the night can't sleep through the night still seeing her face in the glass hey, why does she call when you short on cats? Can't sleep through the night I'm losing
C
my mind tonight bank clothes on the
E
table
A
Watching local cable. That shit is hard. But I like anything from the 80s. Anybody that make a song that sounded like it's from the 80s, I'm buying it.
E
Is it true how they say he made it? Is that really true?
D
Was it? Yeah.
E
Yeah. He put some 80s vibe. Cuz I checked him out. He had like a lot of trap music and that type of.
A
So. Oh, I didn't buy his other slaps.
D
He did good with this one. Prom he prompted good.
E
I bought this one is so different from the other stuff. He.
A
Tommy Richmond.
C
Me.
B
Oh, man.
A
Hey, where the hell Tommy Richmond at?
B
Leave him there.
A
Hey, Tommy Richmond. All right, fine. Yeah, leave him there. And Jack Harlow. Sometimes I think about the bad albums that came out. I wonder what the is doing. Is Jack Harlo on right now somewhere in that hat? Yeah, that next album. Don't do that. Don't. Don't come out with that black music dress like Sha Wayne is together.
B
He ain't doing that no more.
E
Them hats all ain't doing that no more.
B
That ain't work at all.
E
That look like he got back to the drawing board wardrobe from Love Jones.
A
And I just know he was a black girl that endorsed that shirt.
B
That's what got him dressing like that.
E
That cross crystal using waist be wearing.
A
Yes. Yeah. Now you talk about.
E
I would have rather taking a bus down and some big sneaks. That's where I would have took him. Cause he would have. He would have blended in a little bit. Now you got this walking out here looking like d'. Angelo. He look crazy. Yeah, he giving common and he look crazy. Too light skinned for that comment. Bobby couldn't pull it off.
A
Speaking of big sneaks, random question. How much money y' all think did that thick Alexander McQueen sneaker made when
D
it had his run?
E
My.
B
Oh my God.
A
Like if you had to guess how much money you think that that sneaker
E
made for Alexander McQueen go to Bago. Alexander McQueen. Which one had a bigger. They were both Balenciagas. Was went crazy during that free money era.
A
I was about to say I think the Balenciagas.
E
Yeah, those are PPPs.
A
Which Balenciaga you talking about? The big chunky, chunky, chunky chunky one.
E
Chunky, chunky. That came out 2020.
D
I thought you talking about the sock one.
B
I thought about the sock, yeah.
A
No, the chunky one ain't standing in the same room as that McQueen.
B
Go in there with that one.
E
Remember that's a prime baby shower sneak too.
A
The McQueen.
E
Yeah. So yeah, the McQueen had to make
B
the McQueen is Court sneaker.
A
That McQueen was damn a Timberland. You just put that with everything.
E
Guys, Max B got caught in Harlem with something. They wore his ass out.
B
They tore him up.
E
They wore his old ass out. Then he had his sweater t his neck.
C
I saw.
E
Oh, he put his Sunday best on with McQueen.
B
I act like I ain't seen that.
E
Everybody that's on, you know he's fresh out of jail. That's going to happen.
A
Mark, last part. You asked me who was cool.
C
Yeah.
A
Baby Face is cool.
D
Okay.
C
Yes, yes. We were talking more rap.
A
I know, but. But now I just keep thinking of. That's cool.
C
He's effortlessly.
A
Baby Face is the. Let me tell you how cool Baby Face is. Baby Face went to go do the Cadillac Chronicles.
C
I watched it. He killed it.
E
I love that show.
C
Ellie Reid back on the drum machine
A
and knock it off. I was like, damn, damn. This Babyface is in a Cadillac with the deal.
C
Yes.
A
And the Whispers and John B.
C
Singing.
B
You hear this?
A
Listen to the Deal dude. Still trying to steal the show from Babyface too after all these years. Oh, let's go, Baby Face. Hey, these is in a car. They cooling. Look, shades on like this. Look, Mona, this is live.
B
That don't make no sense.
A
Look, these got the guitar in the Cadillac.
E
Hey.
A
Nah, dog. Come on. What I wouldn't have gave to be in that Cadillac.
C
They smoked that Cadillac.
E
We have never seen Baby Face sweat or look weird or crazy. He has all.
A
Not a once in life.
B
Yeah.
A
Not a Once in life might give
E
you is a chuckle.
A
Even when he gave the ladies all them hate these anthems. Yeah, I wanna interview Babyface to talk to him about that.
B
Them records.
A
The psychology behind being able to make I hate this nigga anthems as a man.
C
Yeah, him and Neo. That's deep. Neo.
B
I was just with Neo. Yeah, that was the other one.
A
How do you think that now? Neo is like child's play to me.
C
Yeah, he just said whatever you said to him.
A
Yeah, Neo's like, when you mad, you look good. Like, what's the Baby Face?
B
Right.
A
Irreplaceable.
C
Yeah, he did the two left to the left shit.
E
Yeah. Yeah.
C
I'm talking about Baby Face write women's anthems.
A
Well, there's the discrepancy with that. We don't know. We don't know how much of what wrote what got it. Okay, but he's on there. He's on there. But what. What are some other Neo Big breakup joints? I just. I just don't think he belongs in that. Babyface is. But Babyface made people divorce. And I think that's interesting. As a dude, like, love should have brought you home. Like, what are you talking about?
B
Why would you say that?
A
As a man? Why would you.
C
He wrote Take a Bow too. I was trying to think. I think. I thought he wrote Take a Bow. Yeah, he wrote Take a Bow.
B
The Rihanna joint.
C
Yeah, that's another.
A
No, just like Rihanna. We wasn't breaking up over it. If a went on broke up with you. Overtake a bow. She did you a favor.
B
You've been out the door. Anyway, the song had nothing to do with that.
A
Take a bath.
B
Just happened to come on on the way home. Yo, I heard you finally saw Obsession, yo.
D
Oh, boy.
B
Cuz. Me and Parks have talked about it. We saw it.
D
I got killed for saying it was trash.
B
So I heard you finally saw it. And I need to know what you think about it,
A
Dog. Why did that happen? Let me tell you what I think of obsession. Smacking cards and stacking. Yo. So I'm in the crib, fucking staring at my family.
B
Which day was this?
C
This is hour 34. It's hour 34.
A
No, for real. I'm in the crib. So in love.
D
Huh?
A
Right? Just staring at my family.
F
Sure.
A
All right. Let me turn on Apple. I'mma die to see this.
E
Yo.
A
I know it's a movie and that. I just ain't seen one here. Yo, it got to be.
C
Please.
A
So I turn on the Apple tv and the first thing that pops up is Obsession. I looked at my baby. Hey, look, a movie.
D
Look.
A
She said, hey, come on, let's turn. I say, hey, yes, let's turn it on. I ain't even watch a trailer or nothing. I just hit play and I felt like Obsession made its way to Apple TV kind of soon. I purchased it. Available for purchase. Purchase, yeah, it's available for rent late in the month. But I purchased it, and I still thought that was kind of fast. It is.
D
It happens quicker now.
B
It's very.
D
It's not. It's not very quick.
C
Like Michael Jackson movie's out already. I was like, damn.
A
So we press play, and it's early enough in the day to where I'm not falling asleep. So I'm gonna watch this.
B
Sorry.
A
I'm gonna look at this.
B
Sorry to hear that.
A
This is the dumbest movie that I've ever fucking seen. This is one of the worst movies. And I know that my audience is sick of hearing me say something about movies being the worst, but y', all Parks came on in, said that this movie was the worst, and I saw some of y' all out there killing for his take.
B
Yeah, we trashed this movie.
D
We did.
A
So this is why I'm killing this movie from the rip. Dude, come on. And is a loser. He's a loser. He drops the girl off to her house, and this is the prop. This is problem number one, which is the overarching problem with this movie. He buy the little wish thing to make a wish, and he wished that the girl would like him. However, the girl already liked him.
D
Seemingly. Yeah.
A
What? No seemingly about it. Me and my girl had a five minute fight about it, and she done dropped 90 hints.
D
She did.
A
She did. She did. Hey. She said, hey, do you like our friend? Do you like my friend Nancy or whatever the fuck the girl. Do you like Nancy? He's like, no, the is. Nah, Just.
B
She's cool.
A
Are you sure? Okay. All right. She trying to give him some. Do you want to come in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the night is young. He's like, oh, no, I'm fine. He probably should just go. But anyway, she's like, are you sure that we can't do anything together? I'm like, oh, shit. She likes him, bro.
D
Was the worst actor.
A
She likes this guy.
D
Sounded too horrible, bro.
A
So then he breaks the thing, and now she turns into whatever the fuck she turns into. And now this becomes the worst movie in the world for the next hour. And I was 45 minutes in, and I was like, I thought it was like 10 minutes. I thought we was in the beginning still. This. This was a wreck. But I stayed long enough to get a good laugh at the end. Cuz I got. I get some good laughs at the end when the psycho came out and banged the friend's head on the steering wheel.
B
Steering wheel?
A
Yeah, come on, dog. Because by this point, the movie's so corny that I'm like Malik Beasley trying to get that rebound. I'm like, give me something.
B
Give me something.
A
Just give me some. So they sitting there talking, and in the car, I'm like, y. Oh, y'
B
all about to die.
A
Y. About to die.
D
Yeah, not y'.
B
All.
A
That girl came right out broke doing a bang, bang, bang. Then the funny part. It then walked to the other side of the car and gave him a hug. Oh, baby, I love you. Oh, this movie is dumb. Oh, the kickback that they went to.
D
That's back.
A
The kickback that they went to. That was the worst kickback ever. Everything about this ass, bro.
B
We seen too many good movies based off of this. Somebody falling in love and. And stalk Fatal Attractions. Like, we've seen this. This was a bad version of.
D
It was. If she wasn't attractive, that movie would. No one would pay any attention to that, Right?
A
Well, she wasn't attractive as they showed her is like half a skeleton and beat up in blood and done duct tape the door off, like. And that was the other thing.
D
Pretty funny. Duct tape in the door is pretty fun.
A
But that's my door. Like, I. I asked her, hey, who else they in at some point. This movie so bad. I'm like, wait, is this his crib? Just put the out.
D
Yeah.
A
They never really got into them just living together now. No, you have to go.
B
You gotta.
D
She's gonna listen.
E
Theoretically, yeah.
B
That movie was so bad.
A
That movie was a mess.
D
It was a mess.
A
And had the nerve to be halfway long. It was. That movie was absolute atrocious. Whatever.
B
Speaking of love, though, see, we had two people climb the Empire State Building in the name of love.
D
That's fucking love.
B
That's love.
E
What did the fucking sign say?
B
Some shit about love.
D
Sorry for the dookie.
A
By the time I saw it, it said, joe's part of the month.
C
I think that is the one I saw. That's the one. I ain't know what the fuck they saw.
A
Hey, by the time I saw it, the Internet changed that sign to say everything else.
B
It was bucking up.
C
I saw a cheese. I saw a cheese.
E
Its ad.
C
Yeah, it was originally the Jimi Hendrix Pull, Right?
D
It was when the power of love
C
replaces the love of power.
A
That was from Jimmy Andrews. Yeah, man.
C
If he wanted to, he will.
E
That was lit. That was beautiful. Who could top that?
A
Who wants to? Word.
E
It's some.
A
Some top it.
E
It's lit.
B
Like, once I realized it was a proposal because I'm like, all these stupid ass up here.
D
And it's also content. Right.
E
They get to bail out together and
A
they're daredevils, I think.
C
Yeah.
D
I think they've had a Netflix special where they.
E
Yeah, I love it.
C
Well, they caught like, four charges. They got burglary, trespassing. So, like, four joints. Is it?
B
Yeah, that.
C
Some I would never do.
B
You seen that picture she took with the.
A
With the ring like this?
E
Yeah. She gonna make that back 10 to 10.
B
You got to go to the moon to.
C
I don't think so.
B
That's. Now you got.
D
I was quizzy just looking at the pictures and videos.
A
Like, you got to do that.
E
Like, I was just happy. It wasn't violent. It wasn't no crazy. Violent, like, double suic. Like, you know, shit is crazy right now. I was just happy.
A
You got to do that with them slim girls.
E
Positive thing.
A
I get up there with my girls, that little skinny antenna get to waving around. We done fell down. And then the other thing, if they are to be me, if I got my arthritis start kicking in my hand just watching them try to hold on to that thing.
E
Ever since he got skinny, man, yo, he.
C
He talk about everybody.
E
It went to his head like it's sick. And at first I was enjoying it,
B
but now it's like it's too much.
F
Yeah.
C
Earlier today, you talking about some dude that was built bad. Say he was overweight.
E
Yeah. Oh, he built bad. The guy at Lowe's. Okay. God forbid, the man making $13 an hour, when he tired, his back hurt, but he fat, too. According to Joe Button.
A
Look, listen. Back in my day when I used to work at the Wizard, I was a stock boy. So the salesperson would sell you the item, and then I would come out and help you put it in your vehicle. And hopefully you would tip me. Not at Lowe's. Ain't no stock person. I told you it wasn't. But two niggas.
D
Oh, it's right there on the shelf.
A
So the bigger dude that's helping me gotta come out and be the stock boy, too. He gotta go get the tape measure. I'm asking him, yo, you struggling? Can this thing fit in here? He's like, yo, no. We could take the Top off. And we could do this. And so we had to stand in the heat for. So I'm watching a fat white in the immense heat then.
B
Wasn't a good match.
D
No, I'm trying to put an AC in the Ferrari. And
C
why don't you getting this yourself anyway? You don't do shit for yourself, huh? Why were you doing this for yourself anyway?
A
I wasn't doing it for myself.
C
Why were you allowed.
A
No, I'm doing it so my girl could cook.
B
No, you missing a point.
A
My girl can get on the grill, huh?
C
I'm leaving it alone.
A
What happened?
B
I think we got the house.
D
Yeah, that's all I didn't want to
A
be the one to say.
C
I'm like, joe ain't never told a
A
story where he end up.
C
He'll send soda, go to Lowe's.
D
He about to do a lot of stories.
C
They all in the same place.
B
And what he didn't tell you is he went to Home Depot first. But they ain't happen, right?
E
Right.
B
To go to Lowe's.
A
Yo, the funny I'mma say this. And then I'm moving on on, cuz, y'. All. But before I leave, cuz, I'm going to get a haircut. So I'm like, all right.
C
I thought he came to the bed barber come.
A
You twins, two barbers.
C
And this was the time when you need to go out.
D
It's not like a go out comes to the house, happen to fall on
B
the C day with the Delaware lows, cuz it's tax free.
A
So I'm like, all right, I'll go to Lowe's, and then I'll go to the barber, and then I'll go to Restoration Hallway. I try to.
B
Yo, you're not beating that.
A
I try to give me like a table. So I go in the living room, I sit down. Her son come up to me with the shit with the.
C
That's.
A
Well, she only got one son. So her son come up to me and he say, hey, man, I can go with you to get a haircut. Like when you got.
B
That's dope.
A
I said, yes, but I'm not just going to get a haircut. I'm going to Lowe's, then I'm going to get a haircut. Then I'm going to Restoration Hardware Outlet. This nigga look me in the eye and say, yo, I'm down. Anything to get away from these girls. I'm like, yo, these bit your. Anyway, man, what else needs artist? Coco Jones. Coco Jones, which car did you take
D
to put this in, though.
A
That's my last question. Oh, so.
D
Oh, okay. That makes sense.
A
So, you know. You know, I took my thoughts.
B
Oh, that's funny, son.
A
All right, so Coco Jones, friend of the show. Even though she hasn't been to the show, but when I go to Knicks games, when they play the Cavs, Donovan Mitchell, give me a little salute. So she's a friend of the show. Coco Jones went on live to talk about some of the struggles she's been having as an artist. I thought it was so honest and transparent and good to hear that. I wanted to come in here and play it for you guys to see what y' all thought. But this was just refreshing to me to hear in real time somebody who's by all accounts, kind of lit, talk about some of the hurdles that they having trouble with. Here she is, Coco Jones.
F
I never came into this game knowing exactly, like, what I do. Like, I knew I could sing my ass off. Like, that was pretty clear. That was kind of, like, the only consistent, but, like, I didn't really have, like, a thing, you know, I don't. I don't think I really have, like, a thing. Personality, sure. Like, relatable.
A
This is so honest.
F
Anyway, I think that is biting me in the ass right now. Like, with this album, I feel like the reception that I'm getting out in the world is, like, confusion. Obviously, I get that. Because in the inner world, it's confusion. Not specifically about, like, what I stand for, what I'm trying to talk about, things of that nature, but really more like, how does it sound? How is it supposed to sound? What is the sound sound? I'm so drained, actually. I'm so drained of this process of, like, trying to figure this. This out.
A
This is so dope to me because it is a draining process.
C
If you do.
F
It's like, dang, she's almost there. It's like, oh. I was like, dang, she's almost there. It's like, almost clicking. Like, what the hell is the almost? And why is there always an almost? How long is there going to be the almost? I feel like we're at the final hour of all of this almost. It either has to click or it's going to be open over. I'll always be like, damn, what could have been?
A
That ain't it.
D
It's like, dang, I'm confused about what the confusion is.
C
I thought her.
D
Her sound and brand was kind of traditional R B. Yeah.
B
But this new album isn't that.
D
Maybe I haven't heard the new album
B
But I. I think it's a part that she might not be understanding is I don't think a lot of the confusion necessarily is her for the new album. You did the album with Timbaland. No, I don't.
C
Not Coco.
A
Not Coco Jones.
D
You thinking of Chloe, who I owe
A
an apology to, cuz I called that album trash. But it wasn't an album, it was a mixtape. And I would never call a mixtape trash. That's for a different purpose.
B
They did the track. That's my mistake. I'm sorry.
D
Yeah. I've never thought that her branding was off, but maybe I haven't heard the new album or any of the new music. Has she been experimenting with, like, a different sound,
A
Trying to find some of the records? Yeah. This is her new album. Let me see. Actually, that might not be her new album. Let me just see so I can make sure what her new album is. I bought it. Whatever it is. Coco Jones, I think all the she's
D
talking about is extremely important for any artist, though. Like, you should figure out what you want to look like. Sound like brand your brand.
A
All right, here's her new album.
B
Yes.
A
And this is from 2024. Coco Jones. Why not more? And this is track two. Tast. Yeah. Track three on site. And I didn't bring this up to get this. Make this a whole let's play Coco Jones playlist. The music. I just thought what she said was so refreshing to hear because it was so honest. And you don't hear artists that honest.
C
Yeah.
A
Oh, I like the song. And the thing about music, right? Like, what do we know about Coco Jones?
D
Not a thing.
A
Not a thing. Outside of Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
C
Right.
A
Donovan Mitchell, the Disney Channel stuff. And her in her first big, big, big, big single that took over everything. That's all we know. And I kind of feel like that's part of what she's addressing.
B
You know what happens? Because like I said, I mixed her up with Chloe, but with Coco Jones, her prior to Bel Air and all of that. Her going viral with the covers is what introduced people to her. The downside to that is you're covering songs that are already existing, so it's not you. So like, she said, yeah, I could sing. But it's like if she had a single that put her on the map right then and there, people could kind of attach to that. All right, we know a little bit about you. If you're doing cover songs, it's a song we already know. So all you just show is you can sing. It's not your. Not your words, not your.
A
Yeah, you get what I'm saying?
B
So that makes people hard to identify with who you are and to your point.
A
And then when you follow up covers with your music and it sounds like older woman music. Yeah. There's a younger person with a strong, unique vocal, but the music sounds a lot older.
D
What this all actually says to me that now that we're talking it through a little bit is the departure of A and R and true artist development and production at a record label. Because this model of her is the model of R B songstresses that we grew up with from sh. The 50s, Motown, all that through now. Whereas now the artist is more. It's more dependent for them kind of do. To be their own brand and do their own marketing and have their own. That's kind of the model. Labels don't really do as much A R and production and artist development. You're kind of expected to come in with a fan base which we come
A
and attach to you and expect it to come. Come in and know what your brand is.
B
Is.
E
Correct.
B
And that's what it sounded like she didn't have.
D
You know what I'm saying?
B
And now you're. You had the fans, you had followers because you know, sometimes they just looking at numbers. Yes, but it wasn't a specific brand.
A
Right.
B
So without that, now we go and the label go grab you. What do we attach to?
A
Also you bring up the point about these anrs And. And. And development. Right. I'm gonna. I'm gonna include in that. I'm gonna include producers in that and songwriters for sure.
D
Both.
A
She needs a producer. Someone to come in and produce her.
D
Yes.
A
Not just give a song. Not just a song reference or just a hotbeat. You not. Not just the song we're creating. You need production from somebody that knows how to do that.
D
And that isn't just production. It's like sitting down and just kind of kicking it with you for a while and knowing who you are as a person, what's important to you, what you like, what you don't like in life.
B
And musically, all of that's kind of.
D
It is.
A
But not if you're not. Not if you are not telling that producer what those things are. Like she said, I don't have a problem with knowing who I am as far as my character and my morals and my principles. But when we get into the song, there's something that's not connecting for me. Sit with somebody and speak to them.
D
Who gives a too.
B
There you go.
A
About your likes, your dislikes, where you want to go, your first breakup, your happiness in your relationship. You just need to do give somebody a full download that knows how to produce. If she did that with Jermaine Dupree, he wouldn't let you come back with whatever came up with whatever you had before. And I don't say put Coco Jones with Jermaine Dupree. I'd say get her with like. Like K1.
D
Okay.
B
Okay.
A
Some of the younger girls with a younger sound, not just in the beat, but the vocals. Go get with a fucking Mooney Money long. Go get with people that can listen to you, hear you, and then go put it in a song in a way that will connect with the people that you looking to connect to. It sound like she just with the song.
E
Song.
A
Just with some people that's bringing in songs.
D
Yeah, she got producers on here. Like Stargate's on your Cardiac. There's a bunch of people that we love on this album.
B
Yeah, but that's.
A
See that. That says to me that there's money behind her.
C
Yes, that was that.
A
Don't say to me that those people are tasked with producing her.
D
Agreed. Yeah. No, it sounds like they. They got songs from songwriting camps, essentially
B
most she can sing. We'll go get the song. We'll go get the beat over here.
A
Right?
B
Give it to you. You and. Or even if you write some of your stuff. But it's not like Joe was saying, somebody sitting down, figuring out who you are. And let's put that out there.
D
And some of this goes back to analytic, you know what I'm saying? The label's probably like this songwriter wrote XYZ and they sold XYZ copies. This is the producer that did to XYZ and xyz. And if we put it with you and get this mixer, then it'll be a successful product as opposed to, like building real rapport.
B
And the other thing is finding out what she. She wants. Like, what. What is. What does success to her mean?
D
That too.
B
Like, what are you here for? What are you trying to get? Because the label's idea of success and yours could be two totally different things. Label happy as. Because you did this right here. You like, yo, my music's not connected.
A
Right? See, like, this was her single and it worked. But this is a older sounding bop,
D
which I think is okay, by the way. Like, I think you could do the older bop up, man.
A
Get this to Baby Rose. But it worked. But the problem is you just got. She's got to lean in this is the problem. And I used to always say this when, like I used to have fights with my production company about the record they wanted me to do versus whatever record I wanted to do, right. And they would be like, joe, just give it a shot. Just give it a shot. Give this record a shot. And I'm like, it's not as simple as just giving it a shot because what if it works?
D
Right?
B
Yeah. Then I'm stuck to that.
A
Now I don't have an audience for who I am, Right. I don't have an audience for what I want to do and I won't get one. They don't even know the type of song I want to make. Because this one worked. It worked, right? And if this one worked, I can't come back right behind it and be me. Because now, when one works, we are now in the business of getting shit got to work.
D
Now that also does get really complicated because sometimes artists can be a little too closed off to ideas and pigeonholed where maybe they're like, I don't like guitars in the beat or something. It's like that has nothing to do with the beat, you know, I'm saying like, you have to be open minded, but you also have to. You're right in not pigeonholed yourself into something that you can't deliver over and over again because you don't really like it. But you also have to be open to having producers steer you.
A
Yeah.
D
You know what I mean? So it's a really delicate business.
A
Yeah. And the thing is you can like some shit that's not you. Right. Like I'm not saying like she might have liked this record, but now when I listen to what she's saying, I just don't know if this record was authentic to her. I don't know how many relationships you've been in, how many breakups you've been in, how many like this record sound like somebody, a lady that has been put through the relationship gambit. So I don't know, I think a really important part of artistry is being true to self. Which I guess comes easy when you know what that means. If I'm Coco Jones or anybody, any other artist out there struggling with that before you need to be heard and before you start putting records out and mixtapes or EPs, go figure that out first.
D
Or be willing to be a character. Cause that's another option too. There's plenty of artists that just, hey, I'm whoever, Billie Eilish, the human being. But when I'm Billie Eilish, the singer I'm making weird dark music about. Whatever.
C
Right.
D
Or whoever you may be like. It may not be. They don't necessarily have to coexist.
A
Yeah.
D
Everything doesn't have to be autobiographical.
C
Yeah.
A
That's probably just. Is not gonna go for her because her voice. There's so much texture to her voice that her team of people, the people behind her, have to figure out the story that her instrument is already telling. Which is probably why they keep trying to give her these older ladies. So I. Because her voice has this. This feel to it where it seems like that's the story it should be telling. And we don't necessarily know that that
B
might not be her story.
A
Coco Jones, we love you up here.
C
We do.
A
We absolutely love you up here. I'm gonna. I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play this suave mashup of yours that I love. Because this is the. This is the vibe that you should be on. Oh, hey. What happened?
E
She went viral singing in the ring last year. Remember? It started raining. Her live performance. That. Showing it like a music video. It's a bad bit.
D
I'm curious what the songs that she was covering were that kind of blew her up in the first place. Were they older sounding or were they younger sounding? Because that might have something to do with it too. Maybe she was always attracted to older soul. Kind of.
A
Yeah, but does that mean that's what you should produce?
F
No.
B
Maybe.
D
But maybe not.
A
I wish her the best. I think she'll get it together too.
D
I think so too.
A
Immensely talented.
D
She's two talented.
A
Let me stop. Cause I'll get the gyrating and shit. That's my song. I love that song. Pause for jarring.
B
She did real love. She did pick up your feelings damage. Go crazy back to sleep. Best part. Heartbreak anniversary. Can we talk about prototype? Leave the door open. Get you who?
A
Yeah, those are her.
B
Her again. How do I see what you are? If you know what I mean.
D
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
And if people became fans of this, they don't know you.
A
Right.
D
It's not like all those things have a common thread.
A
Exactly. They're all over the place.
B
So that's what makes it. Makes it harder.
A
Yeah. What else, what else? What else? What else is going on out there? Godfather of Harlem two hour series finale.
D
I have completely forgotten about that show.
A
Well. Because they shoot every other four years.
D
Oh, okay.
A
That. That's why.
B
But they new season started.
A
No, the season is over. That's with all types of complications. They. They remember. They came.
C
They came.
B
They Said two hour se Series finale.
A
Yes. The series is essentially over. However Paramount or mgm, whatever plus it is mgm. MGM purchased one more episode to wrap up the entire series.
B
Oh, I like that.
A
I like it too. I think it's a great idea. I think more because it's a movie. They basically giving us a. I mean, yeah, you can call it. You could call it that.
B
Oh yeah, I like that.
A
I like two hour movie. Is the series finale. No word of when that is coming. But I just think that's a dope idea.
B
Very fire.
A
End it. Get it out of the way.
B
Yep. And we ain't got to drag it out out. Give it to you in one clip and that'd be the end of it.
D
That I will find you. Is pretty fire by the way.
B
I'm a lock in.
D
It's.
A
It's good so far.
B
I'll be cutting it on and then doing not, not paying attention and the next thing I gotta stop it.
D
So I got some heavy hitters in that.
A
Yeah, yeah. I'm on episode three and it's good.
D
You're in there. You locked in?
A
Yeah, no, it's really good. Yeah, I'll finish it in a couple.
B
Check it out.
A
Let's see what else, what else, what else, what else? What else?
C
I'm kind of shaking and shocked.
D
Why Mark?
B
Why?
A
What's up?
D
Taylor Swift?
C
No, we we'll get to as a swifty. I, I, I, that's a whole other thing.
D
Got it.
C
But Lil Wayne didn't show up to his first tour date.
A
Oh man.
C
If there was just some way to.
A
Did you have tickets?
C
Oh yeah.
D
You were going to Maine?
C
Yeah, that's where you've seen. That one threw me.
B
That one one. That one threw me.
D
Why Maine?
B
Oh, just I'm not, not nothing against Maine, but it's like.
C
Well, if you go no show somewhere that's probably the place to do it. You go no show in Mad Square Garden.
B
No, you're not gonna do that. He's on tour. Carter Classics. I think the name of the tour is it's him. Two chains in game. Oh, but there's game in two chains are splitting dates.
D
Okay.
B
You know. But yeah, they just announced after like 11 something. He's not coming.
A
D. What?
B
On the first night of your tour. That's what's crazy to me. Like you do that on night one
C
and it's also after a string and I love Lil Wayne. Huge Lil Wayne fan. It's just there's been this wave of like I'm being wrongfully treated in the industry. I don't get the big events, I don't get the Super Bowl, I don't get the this, I don't get the awards, I don't get the credit. And a lot of the people who said, we love you, but this was the dot, dot, dot. Yeah, it was the shit like this happens.
B
No, we heard shit about the Grammys where it's like, yo, you don't show up for rehearsal and you know, it's just like we can't really depend.
D
Can't bank on you, bro.
B
Yeah.
D
Can't bank on you.
C
Yeah. What do you think, Joe?
A
I'll give y' all 10 more seconds before I come in with a cape for Wayne.
C
Really? Is it the cape that you left in the closet for Jay Electronica?
A
Mark, I'm never caping for Jay Electronica.
C
Well, you should.
B
And the funny shit about the Wayne shit is you missed that show, but you showed up the next night at the White Party at Michael Rubin's.
C
Yes.
E
What?
C
That's awkward. That's awkward.
D
We're not missing the White party now. Some talented people in that room.
C
There were. I saw a lot of networking, for sure.
A
A lot of N Dog N cancel concerts every day.
B
They cancel shows. We talking about, you're on. This is like a 30 city tour.
A
People cancel shows when they on tour. Freeze.
B
No, they do that. Ticket sales, you know, they do all that. Yeah.
A
Somebody might have came to him. Was like, first of all, you said, I'm shocked that Maine was the first one.
F
Yeah.
A
Not me.
D
Me. Yeah.
A
Really? Yeah.
D
Routing wise, you gotta. You gotta sweep the country on some
B
level, of course, but.
D
So you start there and move your way down. Maine is a. I don't know what kind of Wayne market there is out
B
there, but I'm sure Wayne has some.
D
Logistically it would make sense to.
E
To.
D
You're not gonna start in the middle of Chicago or something like.
C
But Joe, in all seriousness, you did say just a couple weeks ago how unprofessional it was and fucked up it is to just ghost. It's not that he canceled. People cancel. Life happens.
B
They issue something ahead of time.
C
Yeah. You issue a statement, you can go on Instagram even and say, hey, sorry, and just make up anything.
D
I got a party to get to.
B
The unforeseen circumstances.
C
Right.
B
Something.
A
But I'm not against someone not handling that the right way once, like now. If this is a repeated behavior for Wayne on tour, I'm gonna come in here and kill him. My point with Jay Electronica wasn't that it happened once. Who cares? Shit happens. My point is that now it looks like there's a pattern and there's a behavior that you're ignoring. And now you jamming people up. If you did that for the last five cities and now like that's starting to become a thing. But I'm not mad at Wayne missing one. Like somebody might have came in. Yo, the ticket sales ain't where we wanted to be. And on the low. On the low, on the low. Don't tell nobody that these talks happen, but they be like, it's Maine. Like that was said. Yeah, that was said. Yo, we can miss one Maine. We'll jump back in. It won't be that much.
C
Like if you go miss1 Maine would probably be the one I would miss if I was on thing. But I just hate for the fans and people are literally saying I drove six hours to see this.
A
Well, he immediately announced a makeup date.
D
Okay.
A
Like immediately. It didn't linger. He said, hey, I'm making this date up. July 28th or whatever the date is. And like the white party was the next day. But he booked this main. Most of them white party flew there on a private jet or the helicopter. Anyway, he could have got here. Like he could have made it there. I'm not going to correlate one with the other.
B
No, no, no, I'm not. Wasn't saying you skipped.
A
That's just coincidence. That. That's just when a coincidence line up your way.
B
I wasn't saying canceling the main or the party into the injury. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
A
No, that's God being good.
C
Because now as a fan, I know you ain't sick.
A
No, that's all right. That's Allah being great.
E
That cape is silk made out of. Yo, it really is the finest threads, baby.
A
I'm saying that is Allah's greatness. Maine is canceled and I got this fanatics party the next day about to be lit. I'm going. Sound like a weekend to me. Here come the Internet. Want to kill for. No, the Internet be bored. Yo move. You wasn't going to Maine anyway.
C
I was driving.
A
No, you wasn't. You was not. Damn. That's your fault for driving in, Wayne Jo. That's fair.
E
When's the new day? Is it far away?
A
The end of the month. It's the end of the month.
C
That bad?
B
I can't him in September.
C
Yeah, July 28th.
A
Yeah, listen, I keep seeing people say that Usher and Chris Brown shoots four hours. I ain't got Time for it. I ain't got time for it.
B
I don't. I'll let you know.
D
That's a bid.
B
I'll be. I'll be in there.
A
I'll be in there all four hours.
B
I know I'll be walking out on the last record when the fireworks is going on.
C
I would. I love Kendrick. The Kendrick scissors show was too long for me now. It was a little cold too, but it was chilly. But that didn't. That added another layer of difficulty. But like in general, like a long ass show. Like by the end, I don't care how much I like, love the song, how much I love the artist. Like hour three, I'm looking at my
B
watch, I'm cool, I'm in that. I'll be right there.
A
Also speaking of Chris Brown, he was. The verdict is in. He's hit with a $13 million verdict in his housekeeper housekeeper dog attack trial. This is his housekeeper was mauled by a 200 pound dog while working at the stars California home in 2020. The funny about that is you lucky
D
you ain't had no money when Brooklyn was around.
A
Boy, they tried it.
D
I bet they did.
A
No, they tried. They sued me.
D
Rest in peace.
A
They did, yeah. I didn't know that I got sued. Sin wanted to bring a nail tech to the house that she didn't know. That's a trend with these girls on Instagram. Hey, if there's a nail tech around, if somebody know how to do a face, B, please come to my home with me.
B
Come right here to my house.
A
My kids, everybody is coming. Yo. Never needed the Internet. But anyway, she says, yo, I need a nail tech. Nail tech comes over, big ass dog. We tell her, stay away from dogs. Stay away from dogs. Stay away from dogs. They never listen.
B
That's what Chris Brown was saying.
A
Okay, you go right by the dog, the dog snaps at you. And now she tried to get what you try to get, like 20 grand. For me, I think that we knocked it down to 4 or 3, 500 or something like that.
B
I know.
A
Oh yeah, but now Chris Brown, the line that he went into the trial with, from what I read, nobody on the jury gave a fuck about what he was talking about. It was like, yo, these are not my. He said, these are not my dogs. These are the security's dogs. My security that stands outside and we be having stalkers and shit. So the dogs are here to protect against, but they not mine.
B
Like the dogs is like Russian guard dog type Pipes.
A
Yeah, yeah, but he said.
B
And they also did tell the housekeepers do not go outside without security.
E
Right.
B
Because the dogs is out there.
E
Right.
B
And they gonna give jump on your ass.
D
And they're guard dogs.
A
Yeah.
D
And you're not from here. Damn. But you still hold 13 million. Did she get hurt real bad?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah, they had to take. They had to do the moaning. They take parts of ass,
E
take some
A
from arm and put it over here. No, but her face was really funny. Yeah, she got reconstruct surgery.
C
Yeah, 13 million is about right.
E
Meanwhile, I was just watching them detective army dogs that could like walk crime walls and. And they really kill everybody that. That comes to the house. It's a good investment. I mean, they might maul the. The grass keeper, but that's not be worried about. They're also a kill trying to come get you.
C
And I've been. I've been attacked by enough dogs.
E
They won't maul you.
C
Just everybody always tells me that. And then the dogs maul me.
E
It's parks. What's the dog?
B
Don't worry about.
A
He don't bite.
B
He don't bite.
C
I got a chunk of my hip still has huge chunks missing out of it.
E
I watch videos of this damn dog for four hours. It's called the mo. I can't pronounce it, but this can climb up walls. This can send an email. Now this so talented. You know what I'm talking about? Say the funny word. It's hard to pronounce.
A
Oh, oh, that. Oh, yeah.
E
Get rid of that dog that they. They bilingual.
A
These humans that have like, that have the urge to go get the exotic dog. That's forbidden. And like areas where people these be online. Oh, my $30,000 dog. This dog used to kill people in Egypt. But I. I got him.
B
But I got him right here.
A
Don't come. Don't come near him. He ain't used to people yet.
C
We crazy.
B
I appreciate that person. Then the. Yo, he don't bite, yo. Don't worry about him. He just loud. He just big. He just weigh 300 pounds, but he all right.
C
Yeah. Just don't make no sudden moves.
B
Everything it takes right there, yo, it's
E
called the Belgium malnoy. That's what it's called, a Belgian malnoy.
B
It's called the state of away from ice.
E
I'm telling y'. All, I'm telling you.
D
We're having a conversation. We're having a regular corny old. Would you rather bear shark?
B
Oh, the bear.
D
I was like the wrong dog. I will take above any of them animals.
A
Yeah, back to the sharks, y' all out there. Jones Beach, Long island beach, they already put the note out. I'm gonna tell you in case you listening, they have spotted sharks again.
B
The meme came the whole.
A
No, no, no, no. It's been about maybe three, four years of this every summer now. So y' all go out there and play in them waters if y' all want to. I saw a story and the headline, the headline was meant to grab your attention, was like, lady mauled and eaten alive by alligator as her boyfriend. As her boyfriend tries to rip her from the mouth of the huge beast. And so I'm reading that, I'm like, oh my God, I can't imagine how does this happen. I begin to read like Mark suggested. They say the white people went to the swamp.
B
Oh, okay, got it.
A
Problem one was swimming in the swamp. Oh, problem two. And not a swamp, but some lake where all of the alligators are. It said 20 seconds few minutes earlier. They were just making jokes about being on look on lookout for the air bubbles, bro. And they were walking. They were able to stand in this when this alligator jumped up and. And clamped on the shorty doo and
E
do what alligators do, right? Every time they get the opportunity, they do that.
A
Which led to my baby asking me if I think that alligators are in the Hudson.
D
No, they're not.
B
No.
A
Listen to humans thinking. Y' all know how you know that?
E
And then because the global climate.
A
Because they shouldn't be there, right?
B
Climate.
A
That's the same thing I said at first.
D
But they're not in there.
A
Not a one.
D
It wouldn't last very long if there was.
E
You never know. They're cold blooded.
D
They're cold blooded. They would die in the winter time very quickly. So there could be one that someone released today that would last through August. Maybe, maybe. But probably not.
B
Once they get cold, a shark or
D
some will probably eat it.
A
But we do think that there's something under there that way.
D
Get in there
E
water and you tell your friend, hey, watch out for the air bubbles. And they go get back right? Like, what the is wrong?
D
I'm not getting no pond in Florida.
E
A Floridian. A Floridian is so used to seeing an alligator. Cool. But you still know you can't beat this, right?
B
Well, them shits come up off the, like be having alligators in their backyard and they pool. That's why out there in Florida they got to have the tents over the the backyard.
E
That's what all they got to catch me at in my yard. Baby, like you can't in the swamp.
B
I wouldn't just walk out out there by that water.
A
I was giving so many props to. To. To the boyfriend because. Wow.
D
You.
A
You seen the alligator attacking your queen? And you went to hell. Yo. You brave boy.
B
The hero one you did. You did that. She a real one.
C
Yeah. That's a lot.
B
Yeah. Alligator.
E
Damn.
C
The thing is, you knock.
B
You're not. You're not opening his mouth like, once.
A
Cuz no chance. Should afford to lose both parents in the same instant.
E
Not to me. Somebody got the funeral stuff if we both go.
B
Somebody?
E
Yeah. Like they don't know that you don't want to wear.
C
The only ill part is if you don't help and they survive.
D
Oh.
C
Cause now you.
B
No, no. I prayed.
E
No luck on that.
B
The power of prayer.
A
I prayed.
B
That's why you survived. Held it down.
C
You're welcome.
B
Yeah, that was me. That. Me and my guy.
A
Yo, speaking of, you didn't even tell us how.
B
How it went.
A
Your. Your beach day with the family.
C
Yeah.
A
Oh, yeah.
E
I saw your Stanley Cups.
B
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We was.
E
What was in them? That.
B
Yeah. Cause they searched the coolers and. So you can't take bottles.
A
Guys, Ice went to the beach with his girl and his daughter's mom. For the people that weren't here and have no idea what we talking about.
B
Oh, and the kids and all the kids.
A
Some boy.
C
Oh, yeah. Went to bed.
B
Oh, yes. Yes.
A
Here you go.
B
Nah, nah, it went great. We had a great time. You know, they. Like I told y' all before, we. We all one unit. They get along great. So they.
C
I love the way you. You've managed to blend this.
B
There's no. Nothing. Like, everything was fine. I couldn't have had a better day.
F
We.
B
We went. We all went out to dinner. We kicked it.
A
It just. All right, but tell me some of the funny stuff that happened.
B
It really wasn't nothing, bro. I promise you, it was. It was just a regular day. We just hung out.
D
So you, your baby mom and your girl are on the beach with liquor and nothing funny happened?
B
No.
A
All right, well, tell me about some of the. Some of the almost funny things that could happen.
B
I get it. But I promise, y', all, it's not what y' all are thinking. It was just a regular. Everybody just chilling and had a good time.
E
Did your baby mom bring her or. No, no, no. Okay.
C
Is that welcomed?
D
No.
C
No.
A
All right, well, tell me about some of the.
E
Wait a minute.
C
That's interesting.
A
Wait, how is that interesting?
C
She can't bring a dude?
A
No, she can't bring a dude. Well, is that a shock?
E
No, she. Listen, if she was.
B
We'll meet y' all there.
E
If she was in love, you wouldn't have a problem with her bringing her guy.
B
If she was in love, I met the dude, all that type of situation. No, not a vet.
E
A vet.
B
Not a vet.
A
If she's better than.
B
Yes, I tried.
A
That's the person she chose.
B
That's what I keep. Like I explained to the fellas before, when they talk about when people be saying shit like, oh, she can't have nobody around my kids, et cetera, et cetera. You can't control that. No, you have to trust the person that you have a child with and trust their judgment right now. If something ever goes wrong, that's when you get to step in or whatever. But you can't control who's around your child if you're not with the mother. You want to control that, you stay with the money.
E
Mom get your.
C
With you.
B
Correct. But I don't. I'm like, again, we not on none of that. You know, poke my chest out. I'm trying to be like, it's not. It's nothing like that. If she did have a dude that she was in love with, we. That wouldn't have been our first time meeting.
E
Right.
B
That's all I'm saying. Got it. So by that point, like, that wasn't her and my girl's first time meeting.
C
Right.
B
So if we're at that point, for sure. But you're not bringing nobody. I'm introduce you to this person. No, that's not.
C
All right.
A
Tell me about some of the funny things you was thinking. Thinking?
B
Oh, my God, fam, I'm not you. I wasn't thinking.
A
All right, audience. Y. I be trying to this.
B
Hey, listen, I don't know what you want. I don't know what you want. I don't know what you want. I keep telling y', all, I live a regular life. No, you don't.
A
I can't go to the beach with my girl. It's not a regular life.
C
That's not regular.
A
It's not a regular life.
B
It is if y' all are all mature,
A
all mature. Well, then that's y', all, then. That ain't me.
B
We all mature. We're all mature. We planning family trips, and we are all mature. We are all. Everybody's on the same page. We got one goal in mind, and it's the kids.
C
That's beautiful.
A
What time did the kids go to bed.
B
9:30, 10 o'. Clock.
A
Don't stop your love.
B
Something like that.
A
Don't stop your love.
C
Yeah, that's it.
A
Then what happened?
C
Y' all go out for drinks after that?
B
No.
E
Perfect night. Would have been a threesome.
B
No, it wouldn't have been a perfect night. Now you. Your night. Now you. Everything up.
E
Did either one of them know how to get. Now my baby. We all. Me and my baby. Jesus is all cool. We
B
can't.
E
Got it.
B
You do the other thing.
E
All right, Let me see you.
A
Okay.
E
Stop it.
A
All right. Tell me about. Huh?
E
There's nothing to squeeze.
B
You think there's nothing there? There's nothing there.
D
The stone is.
B
There's nothing there, bro. I promise you. It's nothing there.
A
It was. It was.
B
It was a great time. We all had a blast. My daughter did ask, can mommy spend the night? No. She asked her mother, can you spend the night at the house with us? And she was like, girl, you with your daddy for the next two days? Mommy, I got stuff to do. And dropped off at home. And that was it.
E
Okay.
C
We've done our best.
E
Boring.
A
Yeah.
B
Sorry. I tell y' all I'm boring, but y' all don't believe me.
A
Even that was enough to make like. Like a great bit, but he just dropped it. He just. Hey, at the end, y', all. He take. He take the greatest. He takes some. That could have been Eddie Murphy. Raw material even then. But my daughter said no. I said, nope, she's with you for the day. I went home and I'm a great dad. All right, ladies and gentlemen, freeze.
C
You too positive.
A
We need more positivity. Way to go. Talked about the music. The Korean, he is racking up the interesting points.
B
Some of y' all should grow up.
C
I'm asking you, cuz of Taylor Swift.
D
Ice is our Taylor Swift.
B
Yes.
D
She correspond.
C
If. If you got married or when you get married, would you invite her?
E
Yes.
B
Absolutely.
E
For sure.
B
She's 1000% would be there.
C
Wow. That's powerful. The reason I ask is because Taylor Swift, as y' all know, big, big wedding, Dear.
E
Sure.
C
She invited the New York Knicks starting five. Did y' all see this?
D
No.
B
It's in the Garden.
A
I love a good Mark Segue. Come on, come on. Fire.
B
Fire.
A
Go ahead.
C
Yo. So I was sitting there thinking, like,
D
did she only do it because it's at the Garden? Oh, she's a Knicks fan.
C
She's a Knicks fan. She's a Knicks fan. But she don't know them like that.
A
She invited Mariska Hargraves. Like she invited a few of the Garden regulars.
C
Yeah, but I was just thinking, like, who inviting people you don't know that well to your wedding is a lot. Because it's probably a friend who didn't get invited who might be mad as that. Like Carl Anthony Towns got invited.
D
Not at the Garden.
B
I'm about to say I don't think there's a friend that didn't get invited at the Garden where half. Where they close off the entire.
A
And then just because she saw a couple people pissed off, they went and donated $27 million to some like. Stop playing with the Swifty. Stop playing. I'm a swifty on the low. Are you for sure?
F
Sure.
A
100%. Taylor is the only musician brave enough and powerful enough with the leverage to say what need to be said against these fucking streamers, these Spotify. Like, she's the only one that utilizes her voice and action happens behind it. I love that she's the only one tough enough to actually say something against all that Trump shit. Yeah, she spoke up when nobody did. Like there's a few areas she fights
B
the fight she took to the labels and all of that.
A
I fuck with.
C
I do.
A
I do.
B
She used power of her music.
D
She.
A
That's how I feel.
C
Go back and listen to Folklore. I think you might like that one.
D
I tried. My sister's a Swifty. I tried. I've tried over and over again. I can't do it.
C
Can't do it.
D
It's not bad. I just.
C
It's not for me, not for you.
A
But who she is and what she represents. She's her. I.
B
She use a power for good. Like unlike, you know.
A
Yeah, that's how it seems to me now. If she's a total behind the scenes, I haven't heard those stories. But even that for her to have been around this long and you have not heard. Heard one of those stories.
B
Every tour they be coming out like the, the.
D
The.
B
The truck drivers who drive the equipment. And like every person who played any part to this tour gives her a stupid super bonus. Like she just. She just comes off as a real genuine, generous person.
C
Well, I'm.
B
I don't know her. I'm sorry, but just what I hear and see.
D
That being said, I'm glad I will not be in the city for her marriage because that seems like it's about to be a show over, fam.
B
That shit started Friday at 1:00'.
E
Clock.
B
They shut it down and it's going all weekend. Come on, dog.
F
I'M cool.
B
I'm cool.
C
I hope they stay together. That's a lot for that. Not to worry about.
B
No, it ain't. When you up like that. No, it's not. It's not a lot. It's a drop in the bucket.
C
I don't mean money. I mean like the production of it.
B
It's. She's a production. Everything she does is a production.
A
Travis Kelce signed whatever needed to sign.
D
That's a fact.
A
He signed it. There's no worry. If this goes Arai, everything will be fine. Everything is fine. Listen, you keep your little 12. What do you make? 12 million?
C
How much?
A
What you do? 14 million.
D
Go buy yourself something nice.
A
You keep your feet. Your feet for money.
B
I don't want nothing.
A
You play football? What you play? I'm going to hold on to my music.
B
Oh, American football.
A
That's different than.
B
Oh, that's so you don't play football.
A
Right.
B
You. Oh, okay, well, that's fine.
A
I'm glad you keep yourself busy. Glad you're doing something.
C
I'm really pursuing a passion.
A
Passion project. Ooh. Oh, man. Shout out to Taylor Swift. Hopefully that. Hopefully that wedding goes well.
D
Word.
C
I hope so.
A
Bank rolls on the table.
B
Joe.
C
Will anybody be surprised that they get a wedding invitation from you?
A
Surprise.
C
Yeah, like she's inviting like the New York Knicks start. Are there people who like you don't know that well, but you're still going to invite just to have like a presence there?
E
Me?
A
Nah.
B
Or a moment ago. You got to do a speech.
C
How about you?
B
Oh, for sure. You got to do a speech on your comedy set.
E
Comedy, Ted.
C
Tomato, tomato.
E
Exactly.
A
Say, yeah, I know we joking around and. But you don't think I would ever let you like, do give a speech somewhere?
E
I mean, honestly, it would be a tear jerker and it would be funny and honestly, Sade could make a decision and she would love it.
A
Oh, yeah. Cause the dude don't decide.
C
I was like, you look like you gonna have a say in this.
E
If she wants to hear some jokes. And if not, then we'll skip the don't call me white girl. 15 minutes. Say.
A
Well, she'll be too busy to hear jokes. She'll be too busy that night. Yeah. Just checking up on the bartenders.
C
Oh, shit. Yeah.
A
See? See?
B
Keep playing.
C
Still here.
E
I was scared to live.
A
I'm gonna have a little something to keep up preoccupied. Hey, babe, give me a pina colada. It's a joke.
B
Open that laptop.
A
Why does she call when she's sh. Short on cash? Can't sleep through the night.
B
Don't you heard it.
A
I ain't listening to shawty bearing no mind trying to get me in trouble.
C
Three people are going to give a speech at your toast. That is the one thing you do get to decide, both of y'.
A
All.
B
Who. Who would give the.
C
Who gives the toast for you? Who's gonna be your people? I'm sure your brother.
B
Yeah, I was about to say my brother.
A
Whoever could show up to see.
E
He should rap it.
B
No, he better.
A
He would. Whoever can show up the city all the fastest.
B
Like I said, 1.
A
Come on now we wait. We need a witness. We need a witness. Where are you?
D
Oh, it's freeze.
E
Weddings are so fun. I can't wait to y' all weddings.
C
Oh, it's going to be a great time.
E
I love weddings.
F
Yeah.
E
Same word. It's so fun.
A
What do you love about weddings?
E
The whole thing. The process. The beginning where you cry when they watch the part and they tongue each other down. And the reception, then it depends. The good ghetto one because you know they get the. If they walk in with the bounce, you know that thing gonna jump.
A
You know, I love a real good wedding like that's enjoyable. But I think I love a bad wedding more.
E
Oh my gosh. Like a train wreck.
A
Yeah.
E
Oh, my God. Will y' all run out of. Of chicken and before the party over.
B
I'm talking about the wedding where you like these two don't even have no business getting married.
E
I don't think it's the cup.
B
No, I'm talking about everything. That family don't need to be in the same building as this family. It's all a train wreck.
C
I like to see a good scuffle. Yeah. Or at least a near little dust up.
B
Little dust up.
C
Nothing to ruin the whole thing. Just enough.
B
Just enough.
C
Yeah. Somebody need to be taken outside.
E
When they say speak. If you want to speak your piece.
C
We a do that in my way way.
E
And it's quiet. But if somebody make a little rumbling the baby mama. Somebody make a little. You can hear a little furniture moving at that part. I love that. Yeah.
C
Yeah. I love you a fool if you ask that.
E
I love weddings where they do stupid like dance routines and. Oh, my God. Yes.
A
No, I'm not doing none of that head ass.
E
If she wants you to dance, you gonna dance.
D
Yeah.
E
You know bank head bounce down here shining.
A
I'll be at the bar. Know we know.
D
Sounds good.
B
He trying to convince himself he has to say so.
A
Parks park bar was lit. Parks Bar was Lit as wedding. Yo, it was.
E
What year did you get married, Parks?
D
20. 21.
E
Okay. That pandemic money. See you play, boy.
B
N. This was lit. That probably was probably the best way. And I've been to.
A
Actually. I could do a pod about some of the worst weddings I've been to, but they be listening.
B
That's the problem. People know you. Hey, you talking about me?
A
One of the couples I really love and support.
B
Are they still together?
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, that's good. Then.
A
That's childhood sweethearts.
C
What made it so bad?
A
It was a destination wedding. Oh, God. And it was really good. Or really. It wasn't so. It wasn't so organized.
E
Never is.
A
Like, where they were having the wedding versus where everybody was staying. The shuttles, how they was transporting people the waiting area while they weren't ready. Like, you was waiting two hours, and then, hey, come over here for cocktails while we set up. It was just an absolute one of them. Yeah, it was all over the place. Nothing was really. We loved the two people that were doing it, but I was there with my mom judging that anything.
B
But it wasn't. It wasn't ghetto, though.
A
No, no, it wasn't ghetto. It was just not organized.
B
I like the ghetto. I like the ghetto.
E
Only time is bad is when it's like, it's too hot in there or it's too much of a gap waiting on the food. Like, that's when it get to like, okay, we're getting up out of here. You know, it got to be just ghetto enough, like, fun to watch record group message. But you still get these little pieces of steak or fish yellow.
B
You got the cousin over there who can't handle his liquor.
E
Oh, yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Three weddings I probably had the most fun at. Just off recent memory was Parks Zaire's wedding was absolutely amazing until they started all that frat sororities that I had to. All right, you got it. And. And. And Safaree.
C
Oh, I forgot. Safaree got married.
A
And Safaree. That. That was beautiful. He. He married Erica.
E
Oh, Erica. Minna.
A
Yeah.
E
That was a real thing. Dang.
A
Yeah.
E
Okay.
A
Ask him on sister. Anyway.
C
Nope.
A
Yeah, no, it was a beautiful wedding. It was beautiful wedding.
E
Somebody got to fill me in with.
D
Yeah, don't worry about it.
B
No, we good.
E
This boy's a G. This funny. Oh, man.
A
Any.
E
I'm the child left behind, man. Takes me a little while.
A
I don't have anything else that's super important. Fourth of July plans.
D
All of you going to see the family, man. We gotta Turn up, man.
B
Trying to stay cool.
C
That part two Parks just gave me a bunch of barbecue instructions. I'm about to just barbecue a bunch of. Even if nobody comes over.
A
Yeah, park sent me the I need to get too order.
C
This is getting delivered right now. I don't even know if my wife gonna be there. I'm just cooking it.
B
Yeah, pray for me. Pray for me.
A
That book is getting written right. Like you heard.
B
Yo, yo, I need y' all prayers.
D
What you got? What you got?
B
Supposed to be going to Atlantic City this weekend.
D
You in trouble. He got you jammed up.
E
You to gamble.
C
He gambling.
B
All right.
D
Gamble with his life.
B
Facts.
C
So, chicken bone, who you going with, though?
B
My lady and her family.
D
Okay.
B
No kids.
C
Oh, that's beautiful.
E
Do you like them?
B
I love them.
E
Okay.
D
Are you outside or you guys chose?
B
No, we outside.
D
Oh.
C
Be safe in the lovely city of Atlantic City, which we love.
B
We do, cuz you know what's up for us.
C
Oh, I know what I'm saying. That's the gamble.
A
Yeah.
C
You better stay in the.
D
You better get the mayor's phone number just in case.
A
I don't know.
C
It could go either way.
D
That's a good point.
E
I'm working, but I'm super excited, cuz I've never, never been to New Orleans.
A
Oh, my God.
C
New Orleans.
A
You are going to absolutely love New Orleans.
E
I'm so excited. And then. And then even my work is, like, fun. It's like a block party.
C
It's going to be lit.
E
I'm excited. I've only been to Baton Rouge. The only thing I'm a little is
A
like, I want to try socks now. Boy, stop playing with her.
E
I want to try so much of the food, but I know a lot of it got, you know, has pork in it or whatever. I just want to get, like, a good gumbo.
A
No, there's a lot of.
D
There's a lot. Without it.
A
You can find whatever you need in New Orleans.
C
They'll take this pause. They'll take the sausage out for you.
D
You can just pick around the sausage and the gumbo. It's fine.
E
I'm excited. Beignets, all that. Like, I am so ready.
A
Give me a good shrimp.
B
Oh, boy.
E
Oh, I can't wait. I'm so excited.
D
That's the best food, cuz.
E
B Ro.
C
You for Essence?
E
Yeah. Basically, like.
C
Yeah. Are you interviewing people again?
E
No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm like, you know how when you get the job. Job. So you get the job all back? I'm at after party next year, we shoot for us.
A
Listen, every. Every party counts. Every party, every part and every dollar counts.
E
And I'm too. I was so excited about New Orleans, period. Cu.
C
I know you have a great time.
E
I work what down. Shout out to all the people listening from parks.
A
Love New Orleans. Anytime he get a couple free minutes alone, he run over.
D
Yeah.
E
Do you. I gotta text you for tips.
A
He like over there. He like it out there.
E
What do y' all do?
A
She.
D
Yeah, she do too.
A
All right.
D
She go without me sometimes.
A
Eat and drink.
B
I don't care.
D
And then drink.
E
That's the only tips I want for is where to eat.
B
The only thing I hate about New Orleans, where they don't stop like that. Does not stop.
D
The spot with the crawfish.
E
He keeps lying about my number.
D
No, you have a different number every time we text you.
A
Facts.
B
I was trying to get your sneaker size for a minute.
E
Stop.
B
Now. When I bring all these boxes in here and I don't have one for you, do not yell at me.
E
Yeah, it's going to be a problem.
B
I tried. You still it. What is your secret size?
E
I'm already done.
B
The boxes will be here. Next part.
E
Damn. That's up, bro.
A
Listen, man, we hope y' all enjoy your 4th of July weekend out there.
D
Don't put the fireworks in the hill hand when you light them.
A
Oh, please, cuz. We going to come in here next week, one of y' all be done lost finger.
B
Somebody going to do it.
A
Somebody is going to do it.
B
I'm not even give the disclaimer no more.
E
Last year. He still ain't.
A
Yo, so don't eat everybody's food. Facts, remember, if the. If the cookout got the frozen patties, it might not be the vibe. Shout out to all my Latin people on the west side in that west side highway park right now, they'd be taking over all the parks, actually. Facts, what else is going on? I ain't doing shit, man. I'm on the grill. Something like, something regular. Not too much, man. Staying out of the heat. That's it. Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we absolutely need each and every one of them. Until next time. I can't sleep through the night. Until next time. We bid you a due farewell. Adios. Arrivederchi. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye Or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Hey, wait a minute now.
D
What do you know? Mona with a new number.
A
Another one. And she's the worst, yo. Another one.
E
Second number since I started.
A
Third cat.
B
It's the third number.
E
I'm tired of them lying on me.
D
I can delete the other two, though, right?
A
Yes, it's one of those.
D
Okay, cool.
E
I want to know what other two would they. What are they?
D
I just delete them.
E
So I don't know.
A
Y' all hold it down out there, man. We love y'. All. Hey, wait a minute now. Watching Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now. Shout out to everybody traveling. I am so overdue for a trip issue, man. This nigga's in St. Martin with his feet in the sand. He got his hairless ass and some water. Wow, man, I'm hating.
C
You miss.
A
I'm hating. I miss each and every one of y' all when y' all not here, man. Especially Ish. Y' all hold it down until the next time. Hey, hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute now.
E
Jbp, jbp.
A
Where would you be without the jvp? You've never heard of Joe Bud?
Episode 943 | "Spinach Dip"
Date: July 4, 2026
This Fourth of July episode of The Joe Budden Podcast is equal parts cookout banter, social commentary, hip hop debate, relationship confessions, and tongue-in-cheek humor. Joe is joined by regulars Mark Lamont Hill, Parks, Ice, and Mona (Don't Call Me White Girl) for a holiday special that bounces between the heatwave, music controversy, family dynamics, viral moments, and NBA trades—all delivered with the group’s trademark mix of honesty and playfulness.
On cookouts and manhood:
"Do not let everybody get in there with a macaroni salad, potato salad... Be careful with all that. I got my pistol on the damn floor." — Joe [09:02]
On India.Arie’s boycott: "My comment makes it very clear I don't think we should boycott. My comment is tantamount to everybody doesn't want the same thing." — India.Arie [46:03]
On hip hop’s social influence:
"I think hip hop made it not cool to be a deadbeat dad. I think hip hop did some amazing shit for it." — Mark Lamont Hill [66:20]
On blended family life:
"Having a blast. Having fun. Then she's like, we're really in love, so anywhere I go, she'll be there a couple seconds later." — Joe [20:01]
On making poor choices in rap:
"You niggas need to go to, like, a crime school... if you really gonna dedicate your entire life..." — Joe [32:53]
On successful co-parenting:
"You just have to trust the person you have a child with... you want to control that, you stay with the money." — Ice [147:06]
The tone is relaxed, candid, and full of inside jokes, authentic vulnerability, and rapid shifts from playful roasting to genuine concern. The hosts rely on real talk and directness, often using explicit language; humorous asides are common.
This episode embodies the Joe Budden Podcast’s unique blend: irreverent pop culture critique, hip hop deep-dives, confessions about family life, and topical debates about music and society, all underpinned by warmth and camaraderie. The crew’s chemistry and willingness to critique both themselves and society at large always keeps the conversation dynamic—and never too serious, even when the subjects are.
As Joe signs off:
"Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we absolutely need each and every one of them. Until next time… Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have."
For complete storylines, listen to the full podcast. All ads, intros, outros, and non-content have been skipped for this summary.