Episode 944 | "They Are Amongst Us"

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode: 944 | "They Are Amongst Us"
Date: July 8, 2026
Main Participants: Joe Budden (host), Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, Big Parks, Flip, B Dot
Duration: 3+ Hours

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Episode Overview

Episode 944 ("They Are Amongst Us") delivers classic Joe Budden Podcast energy with a blend of banter, playful debates, current events, and music culture analysis. The pod’s cast of personalities—Joe, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, Big Parks, Flip, and B Dot—cycles through topics ranging from relationships, technological advances (and their absurdity), topical hip-hop controversies, and deeply personal reflections. Despite being a "slow news day," the group fills three hours with sharp wit, wisecracks, and occasionally serious takes on everything from domestic incidents to the state of rap, NBA movement gossip, and much more.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Smart Tech Overload [00:00–02:00]

• Discussion: The pod kicks off with a group rant about the uselessness of smart home devices like smart toilets and fridges.
• Notable Quotes:
  • “Yo, this technology is getting out of hand, man. We don't need a smart tea maker.” – Joe Budden [00:00]
  • “Everything don't need to be smart.” – Big Parks / Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [00:47]

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2. Slow News Day / Tin Foil Hats [02:00–04:00]

• The crew jokes about the lack of news and dons “tin foil hats” to engage in wild speculation, poking fun at conspiracies and podcasting culture.

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3. The Realities of Podcasting, Work Life, and Vacation Talk [02:00–08:00]

• Joe and Mark trade stories about workplace expectations, with Mark calling out Joe for lying to him about the “work hours.” This ties to Flip’s return from vacation and the complicated dynamics of podcasting as a primary job.
• Notable Quote:
  • "I may lie when I want something. I may, I may not. Depends on the mood." – Joe Budden [03:47]

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4. Marriage, Content, and Relationship Dynamics [06:00–17:00]

• Flip’s viral encounter: Flip discusses a viral video where he helps a drunk woman, and the subsequent conversation with his wife, illustrating the tension between content creation and married life.
• The crew reflects on how podcasting has changed openness in their relationships (“freedom of thought”), and they tease future episodes involving partners ("Pod Wives" crossover).
• Notable Moment: Grading Joe as a partner; his partner joins to give her real perspective [35:00–37:13]
  • "I would give him an A minus overall." – Joe's partner [37:13]

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5. Food Debates – Well Done vs. Medium Rare [10:00–12:00]

• The group debates steak doneness with spirited takes on well-done vs. medium-rare eating habits, leading to jokes about running "red lights" (sexual innuendo).
• Quote:
  • “If you listening to this and you like well done steak, turn this shit off.” – Joe Budden [10:37]

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6. Gender, Cheating, and Relationship Patterns [59:00–1:41:19]

• The group delves into infidelity: Would you know if your partner was cheating? The men debate whether they’d sense behavior changes and how quickly, with Joe skeptical about everyone’s confidence.
• Quote:
  • “There are women that are great at cheating... and it ain't just, oh, there's a pattern and the pattern change. ...there's people out there that are good at this.” – Joe Budden [1:40:12]

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7. Hip-Hop News: Big Tigger Domestic Incident & Character Judgments [40:10–53:44]

• The pod discusses circulating video of DJ Big Tigger and a domestic dispute involving his wife. Joe urges caution in judging based strictly on video, highlighting background details about Tigger’s spouse and broader issues in how public figures are portrayed during divorces/custody battles.
• Key Segment:
  • [41:22–53:44] — Analysis of the video, the context (missing child, custody battle), and why character evidence matters.

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8. Going Through Your Partner’s Phone [53:45–1:00:00]

• The team admits to past phone-checking, sharing stories of what they found and what they learned about themselves and relationships.
• Notable Exchange:
  • "If you ever been in phones and found what you were looking for and more, you won't touch nobody else's phone." – Joe Budden [54:40]
  • “Rarely will you leave after you find it.” – Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [59:40]

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9. Scottie Pippen Dating a 23-Year-Old & Old Beef with Michael Jordan [65:01–75:47]

• They tackle the viral story of Scottie Pippen dating a woman 37 years his junior. Mark expresses unease, framing it as a “midlife crisis” and referencing Pippen’s behavior after being “omitted” in Jordan’s documentary. The crew also debates the boundaries between "hurt" and "weird", and the age at which such relationships become ethically murky.
• Key Quote:
  • “At some point, brothers, like, it'd be too much. It'd be too far. The gauge gap. That is just a little too much…” – Dr. Mark Lamont Hill [65:42]
  • "If I'm only looking at Scottie Pippen... at some age, it does start to look nasty. But what is that age?" – Joe Budden [74:06]

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10. Hip-Hop’s Hottest: Top 10 Rappers of the Year (So Far) [96:01–1:03:06]

• B Dot presents his "Top Rappers of 2026 (So Far)" list, sparking debate over criteria and notable omissions (notably, Wale and 38 Spesh), with the group challenging the metrics of “presence,” “skill,” and “song/feature.”
• Rankings Recap [96:32+]:
  • #10 Rick Ross
  • #9 Currency
  • #8 Roc Marciano
  • #7 French Montana
  • #6 Juvenile
  • #5 Kanye West
  • #4 Freddie Gibbs
  • #3 J Cole
  • #2 T.I.
  • #1 Drake

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11. Jay-Z, Lance Rivera, and Dame Dash Content Beef [107:16–1:26:18]

• Open letters & business: The pod breaks down Lance Rivera’s letter to Jay-Z concerning an old stabbing incident and its use as “marketing,” with philosophical debate on what’s appropriate in old beefs.
• Dame Dash’s “Chatty Patty” evolution gets analyzed as emblematic of shifting lines in male podcast gossip/content culture.
• Quote:
  • “He invented the word Chatty Patty... there are people that's gonna say, nah, not you. Not you becoming that.” – B Dot [122:27]
  • "If it's too far, I'm taking notice. ...Now I'm looking at it a little shaky." – Joe Budden [126:07]

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12. Serious/Tragic News [151:27–168:44]

• Rory’s Health: Joe shares that former co-host Rory recently suffered a stroke or "strokes," sending support and urging everyone to get health checkups [1:51:27–1:53:10]
• Nolan Xavier Wells: Discussion about the tragic news of missing 18-year-old Nolan Wells, the strong suspicions of foul play, and the racial and social media dynamics involved. The crew urges sensitivity and discernment in public speculation, especially for the families involved.

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13. Life, Sports & Random [80:00–153:00+]

• Banter about recent holidays, fireworks, Miami tales, and relationship dynamics.
• Extended, playful talk about cheating, patterns, when you’d know a partner was unfaithful, and how confident (or delusional) the guys might be.
• Sports: Trump’s intervention in soccer, NBA free agency hopes (LeBron to Philly?), and various bets/Powerball hypotheticals.

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14. TV & Comedy Reviews [1:31:55+]

• Louis CK Netflix special: The whole team reacts with dismay, calling it devastatingly bad.
• Love Island: Passionate discussion about reality dating TV culture, who the real “legends" are, and how the show’s evolved.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “There are those that are humble and those that are about to be humble.” – Joe Budden [19:57]
• *"Running red lights" and “spankathon” jokes—running themes for relationship/sexual innuendo [11:41, 29:00]
• “It's always the dudes.” – On who gossips the most in the industry [120:32]
• “In closing, according to act, him and Charlamagne have scheduled a sit down on camera.” – Joe Budden, clarifying he’s sitting out current media beefs [169:07]

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Episode Structure

• Loose, conversational style with many asides and call-backs—expect frequent in-jokes and running gags
• Segment transitions marked by changes in topic energy (banter, intimacy, newsiness, music, or deep seriousness)

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Timestamps Summary

• 00:00–02:00: Smart tech gripes & cold open
• 02:00–08:00: Podcast work culture, vacation, Flip returns
• 10:00–15:00: Food debate & relationship stories
• 35:00–37:13: Joe’s partner joins—“grading” Joe at home
• 41:22–53:44: Big Tigger incident and character context
• 53:45–1:00:00: Phone snooping and relation fallout
• 65:01–75:47: Scottie Pippen, age-gap dating, MJ/Pippen drama
• 96:01–1:03:06: Hip-hop “Top Ten” list debate
• 107:16–1:26:18: Jay-Z, Lance Rivera open letter, Dame Dash, male gossip culture
• 151:27–1:53:10: Rory’s health, tragic missing persons news
• 169:07–: Joe addresses Charlamagne vs. Akademiks media beef (and why he’s staying out)

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Final Notes

This episode encapsulates the mix that defines the JBP: cutting jokes, hip-hop purism, relationship real-talk, and an unfiltered look at both the culture and the podcasters themselves. Underneath the jokes, the crew often acknowledges the impact of content on personal relationships, the hazards of the culture’s “openness,” and the double-edged sword of being a "trained professional" podcaster in today's media climate.

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For a full experience, use the above timestamps to navigate segments of interest, enjoy the quotables, and appreciate the unique tone and camaraderie that keeps long-time listeners coming back to the JBP each week.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Yo, this technology is getting out of hand, man. We don't need a smart tea maker.

[B Dot]

Electric kettle.

[Joe Button]

Boil the water on the stove, man, and dip the bag in there. No. Why? We need to get the weather on the tea maker.

[B Dot]

Electric kettle, man.

[Joe Button]

I don't need Bluetooth to make tea at all. Fancy ass tea maker.

[Big Parks]

Everything don't need to be smart.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything don't need to be smart.

[Joe Button]

This is the absolute fridge and my toilet.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I need.

[Joe Button]

You don't need a smart fridge either. Yo, that's just elitist.

[B Dot]

You kind of do.

[Flip]

Why?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because you just said I got one.

[Joe Button]

It helps. Well, I don't have one because I don't need one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That. But you always think that to you you didn't think you need a smart toilet. Now you can't live.

[Joe Button]

I don't need a smart toilet. Actually, I bought one too many. No, he learned. I don't need no smart toilet. Oh, at all.

[B Dot]

Hey, Mark, remember you said your power went out?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

That mean your toilet don't work.

[Big Parks]

That sucks.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't manually.

[Joe Button]

You can't manually do, but piss on the floor. And my bowel movement is faster than the smart technology to lift the thing. Man, I'm already peeing everywhere.

[B Dot]

Ain't got time for this shit.

[Joe Button]

But it's beautiful. Opening up while I'm peeing everything.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, it's lovely. It's my wife's, really. I just sneak and use it when she's not around.

[Joe Button]

What do we really need? Smart phones.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Phone for sure.

[Big Parks]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

And even that's debatable.

[Big Parks]

I mean, honestly, I kind of wish that they made like an Apple phone. That was dumb.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, we don't need the phones like that.

[B Dot]

Yes, we do.

[Joe Button]

Audience, listen. Slow news day.

[Big Parks]

Word.

[Joe Button]

Grab your tin foil.

[B Dot]

Oh, yeah. We here today.

[Joe Button]

Slow news day. Is she still on vacation? Unbeknownst to me, I had no idea. I'm ready to work with whoever the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You still look sad, by the way.

[Joe Button]

Who?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This morning when I said, yo, Ish. Ish isn't coming in again. I saw the drop in your face again.

[Big Parks]

Wait, you told him the ish wasn't coming in?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's gonna pay Attention. No, no, he don't pay attention.

[Joe Button]

Ish told me he was going on vacation. Stupid me think that that means you're gonna miss a pod, right? But you entitled podcasters. For y', all, that means also known as workers. For y', all, that means miss a few pods, which is like longer than a week. My vacations are normally restricted to places that are two and three hours away. So I can make it back here just in case some news breaks, in case the people need me. You guys, when y' all go, y' all go. But I mean, I'm not comparing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I was about to say, cuz when the funds come in from the

[Joe Button]

subscriptions, I'm not comparing. Yeah, I'm not comparing. So it should be back. Grab your tin foil. We're going to add to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Also, you lied to us, Joe. This is the thing, because you talk about us, but when I negotiated, I'm not getting into contract stuff, but when I first started working here, I met with you personally. Then I met with Ian, and y' all both told me the same thing. The workday starts early. We get in and out. First episode will be done by 2 o'. Clock. You'll be home by. We'll be out here by 5 or 6 o'. Clock. So it's no problem at all. I was like, word.

[Big Parks]

That was never the case.

[B Dot]

They got him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So my dumb ass asked a couple people that worked there at the time, and they were all like, nah, it'd be later. It'd be like eight, nine o'.

[Big Parks]

Clock.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I was like, nah, that's too big of a gap. And Joe wouldn't lie to me.

[Big Parks]

Like, we used to get out of here, like 7ish.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's different than what he told me.

[B Dot]

Still ain't what they said.

[Joe Button]

And that is still one of my shortcomings.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Lying, Lying.

[Joe Button]

Lying or negotiation? I may lie when I want something. I may, I may not. Depends on the mood. What's the vibe? What's happening? Mark came at a time where, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna shoot this lie.

[B Dot]

I'll tell this nigga whatever he need to hear.

[Joe Button]

I' shoot this lie out here. I mean, he was moving from Philly to Jersey. The least I could do was lie

[B Dot]

to him, make him think it was sweet.

[Joe Button]

The worst thing I could do is remove any glimmer of hope that he may have had in coming to the workplace. Yeah, I'm a big fan of hope. Hope says there's a lot of lies around here that keep hope alive.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's True.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, glad to have you. You've really been killing crucial part of the team. Hey, there's another crucial part of the team right there.

[Big Parks]

What's up, baby?

[Joe Button]

There you go. Another crucial part of the team, you know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I love that shirt too, man.

[Flip]

Open the lies a lot, boy. That's why you fell for mine too. That's why we're here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Speaking of fell. Speaking of fell.

[Flip]

Fell.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I was watching your page.

[Joe Button]

Wait, hold up, Mark. I gotta see what that meant.

[Flip]

Oh, you know what that mean.

[Joe Button]

I fell for your lies.

[Flip]

We don' that me.

[B Dot]

You got him?

[Flip]

Me? No, no, no, I didn't get him yet. But me, you here, I try to get him at one point. It's like a back and forth. You taught me.

[Joe Button]

I'm chilling.

[Flip]

Hey, I still got one for you. But you taught me. I last two times you taught me, boy. The last two times. You up, you up. You warned me to.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what you talking about.

[B Dot]

You warned me right there.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, you get bad off, I'mma win this game. You got it. They let you to up to.

[B Dot]

You got two cooking.

[Joe Button]

Well, it's good to see you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Good.

[Flip]

I'm happy to be here. What's up, y'?

[B Dot]

All?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Speaking of fail, I was watching your footage on your page, and this young woman seemed to have fallen right in front of you.

[Joe Button]

Oh, of course.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah, you know that.

[B Dot]

Of course.

[Flip]

I mean, that happens. That happens when. When you are hubsy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you see this video?

[Flip]

When you're a great president.

[Big Parks]

I thought you were gonna say you're beautiful.

[Flip]

You know, like, I'm a protector.

[Joe Button]

Are you familiar with the young woman, Mark?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Oh, as soon as I saw the video, I turned.

[Joe Button]

You're not having as much fun with this as you're supposed to have.

[Big Parks]

Are you familiar with this young woman?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's called an alley oak. Yes, I'm just throwing it up in the air.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm not catching that. I'm not catching that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I have no idea who that woman is.

[Joe Button]

Harlem Globetrotters.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Sweet Georgia Brown.

[Joe Button]

Nah, nah, I'm cool.

[Flip]

I'm cool. I'm just being a citize citizen, man. Just helping people.

[Big Parks]

That's what I know you for.

[B Dot]

That's admirable.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You are citizen.

[Joe Button]

You're a good dude. You are a citizen.

[Flip]

White women was scared of the fireworks and she protected them. Black protector. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So yeah, you kept her safe.

[Flip]

Well, I don't know. There was some shots going on. She was on her own. She would have got shot, but Yeah, I was just being there. Just standing there, man, that's all.

[Big Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Flip]

Hands to myself, looking straight ahead naturally and, you know, being careful. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Committed, married man. That's the right thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all you can do. Yeah, but you got to keep people safe.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[Flip]

My wife. My wife checked me on that too.

[Big Parks]

I bet she did.

[Flip]

Ever since we got on here, we started talking about our significant others and names and stuff and, you know, like, be just sending her the shit. So I'm on the phone with her talking about, like, yo, everything is all right. Everything is good. I'm not going to get exposed for nothing. That was. That young lady was drunk and, you know, she just was looking for the alcohol.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shelter.

[Flip]

To shelter. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Gotta blame it on the alcohol.

[Flip]

You said that video.

[Big Parks]

What better part of shelter. That seems like a safe place to be?

[Flip]

Hey, yo, now, I had. I had to talk to her. I usually don't check.

[Joe Button]

That's what you went back in with. What do you mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I usually don't check the time.

[Flip]

I usually don't check in with my wife. When it comes to content, I do. But for some reason, when I come seeing the cowboys. Wife, wife, wife. I said, let me give her a call. Hey, this is video.

[Big Parks]

Oh, after it was.

[Flip]

No, she said, I got it. She said, I saw it already. And then we discussed it.

[Joe Button]

And then we discussed it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We discussed it.

[Joe Button]

You gained understanding a little bit straightening.

[Flip]

I did.

[Big Parks]

But the video's still up.

[Flip]

It is. I mean, it's all in the sake of content. Content is content, man. I'm here trying to build and trying to, you know, continue to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Have you ever had a piece of com. Lastly, have you ever had a piece of content? You was like, I can't put this up. Like, Cause of how it come off.

[Flip]

C. What?

[Joe Button]

C. O M. Content.

[Flip]

Over what? Money?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Marriage.

[Flip]

Marriage.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No.

[Flip]

Yeah, there was a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Before.

[Flip]

Nah, actually, nah, man. I ran a tight ship at one point, you know what I'm saying?

[B Dot]

They were calling me Mr. What you say? At one point, then people calling me

[Flip]

Mr. Flip in the house. I'll get to that later. But what happened?

[B Dot]

It's not the same no more.

[Flip]

No, no, no. She don't play. Ever since this podcast, man. This podcast gave people freedom of thought,

[Joe Button]

freedom of expression, freedom of thought.

[Flip]

That motherfuckers want to express themselves, man.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God. My girl keep asking for five wives to come back. Sit tight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't wait for that, man. That's gonna be a good. That's gonna be a good comeback.

[Joe Button]

Relax, relax.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You gonna be there?

[Big Parks]

Oh, for sure.

[Flip]

So many people.

[Joe Button]

Fox will be there not saying a thing about nothing. Him and his fucking beautiful wife. If Freeze gonna tell the truth. Me and him, I mean, get.

[B Dot]

That's the boy.

[Joe Button]

If Free's going to tell the truth, man could two man this thing to greatness. But he's not.

[B Dot]

I'm fair.

[Big Parks]

But give me a couple weeks head note, head start. We come up with some lies.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay. Well, start.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we need to spice it up.

[Flip]

We.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, I'm willing to guest host again and we'll add some people. Stop.

[Flip]

Bring a great doctor with you.

[Big Parks]

Yes. Y' all done started a pod wives without us.

[Joe Button]

You might as well merge.

[B Dot]

Might as well bring it in here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Special episodes.

[Joe Button]

Y' all are ruining my hit show so much. I spent 4th of July profiling Corey and his girl.

[Flip]

Oh, oh.

[Joe Button]

I'm looking at these two like she's got something.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, Cory and his Girl. I would pay for that.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, Cory, I'll pay for you to come on Powder.

[Joe Button]

Actually, that should be a separate show. Just called Corey and his Girl. Oh, man. Anywho, Cory, girl asked for a well done steak.

[B Dot]

No, she didn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she did, Corey. No, she didn't.

[Flip]

What's wrong with that?

[Big Parks]

Many things.

[Flip]

A lot of. Listen, nobody cares about that medium red. All that.

[Joe Button]

Got to be medium rare.

[B Dot]

I'm shocked that you.

[Joe Button]

Well, there's many things wrong with it, but I mean, her palette is her palette.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I hate you now. Responsible for her palette.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's your palate.

[Flip]

Yeah, I know there's flavor in well done steak. Yes.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Burn.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, the same flavor usually.

[Big Parks]

Usually ketchup. People that order well done steaks, have you had.

[Flip]

Well, have you ever had. Unfortunately, it's all nasty all the time.

[Big Parks]

It's just the texture is all off.

[Joe Button]

Yo, if you listening to this and you like well done steak, turn this shit off. Go about your business. Yo, this ain't the part for you. Go listen to something else. Turn this off.

[Flip]

Fortunately, I can't go anywhere. And I like well done. I like well done everything facts. And I'm not going anywhere.

[Big Parks]

But you eat like a 12 year old.

[Flip]

It don't matter.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[B Dot]

You do eat like a kid.

[Joe Button]

Medium rare.

[Flip]

Rare. That red coming out. Eat on bloody days. That's why you freaks.

[Joe Button]

I don't do that either. I don't do that. But I know it's dudes in here that do it.

[Flip]

You used to get crazy.

[Joe Button]

I know it's Dudes in this room that do it.

[Big Parks]

I don't think there's dudes in here.

[Joe Button]

There's 100% dudes in here.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They eat it on a bloody day. Freeze.

[Joe Button]

Not on a regular. But you've done it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That have.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Oh, the have. I thought you said that's nothing.

[Joe Button]

We have done everything. No knowingly freezing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Joe Button]

I knew it. Freezing like girl.

[Flip]

What's wrong with a little strawberry?

[B Dot]

The man right here said he do it too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Going to be.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze.

[Flip]

Do.

[Big Parks]

Do.

[Flip]

That

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

piece of.

[Flip]

You are

[Joe Button]

see. I knew. I knew.

[Flip]

Running red lights.

[Joe Button]

I knew they were among us.

[Big Parks]

That's not running red lights, by the way.

[B Dot]

That's not running a red light. That's a different level. Red light is.

[Joe Button]

Wait, no. They're among us too.

[Big Parks]

Oh, I've run a red light.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody.

[Joe Button]

Everybody.

[B Dot]

Now I want one of you to lie and say you haven't.

[Flip]

Joe, stop lying.

[B Dot]

Oh, haven't.

[Joe Button]

No. Do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, have you run a red light in the last 12 months?

[B Dot]

No.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Flip]

I don't believe you.

[Joe Button]

I ain't been in a red light in the last 12 years. I ran a red light.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't understand. He'll gain understanding.

[Joe Button]

Nah, I'll be 46. I haven't done this in the last 26 years.

[Flip]

The moving.

[Big Parks]

You're not running red light. You running red lights. Less on the movie.

[Joe Button]

We barely.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's why you end up running the red light. Sometime you get one chance.

[Joe Button]

Hey, let me.

[Flip]

Shut up.

[Joe Button]

Hey, I'm on some. He'll be here tomorrow. I mean, it's up. It's up. No, I got to step up. No, no. I got to step up. I got to make a change.

[B Dot]

It's me. How the grades going?

[Joe Button]

It's me. That's what I'm saying.

[Big Parks]

What's the report card look like?

[Joe Button]

She been kind of A in this. She got it. She been. She been kind of Fourth of July.

[B Dot]

She's smoking shit the day after.

[Joe Button]

Smoked it. I got a step up.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, you do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What grade would she give you?

[Joe Button]

That's a very good question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't asked, but what do you think?

[Joe Button]

A minus.

[B Dot]

You lost the dog. Let's start there.

[Big Parks]

Ain't got attacked by the dog.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

A minus.

[B Dot]

The dog don't fuck with you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You think she'd give you an A? Minus 100%. Okay.

[B Dot]

For every day.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I know it's a joke on here and it's your shtick and I don't want to hyper focus on it, but it is funny. I'm kind of that nigga on the live with you Tip.

[B Dot]

But do she think that though?

[Joe Button]

I'm telling you something.

[B Dot]

No, I hear you, but it's another story.

[Joe Button]

It's muscle memory. I just gotta get back in my. In my bag which is. I'm just like 24 hour concierge.

[Big Parks]

I don't believe that to be true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't imagine that at all.

[Joe Button]

That's what it is. It's tough.

[B Dot]

Well, it should be in a few.

[Joe Button]

You wake up at. You wake up at three in the morning thinking you can scratch your leg or pay your bodies of mind. She wake up? No, I got a headache. Can you rub my head? Hey, could you lay your whole elbow across my head for the pressure? It is like oh my God. But I'm killing this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ask her. Okay.

[Joe Button]

If you say her name three times, you won't even have to leave your seat.

[Flip]

Yo, remember free before I left.

[Joe Button]

We watching some damn day one.

[Flip]

Hey, I just want other people to know I'm gonna be respectful because I have to. But ever since us OG is in town, my man Joe was out of here quickly. Don't congregate or nothing. He don't walk around. He be up faster than me, faster than us. Hey, ever since your man is. If he was here, he would have been here longer than Joe, nigga.

[B Dot]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Joe didn't even say goodbye. That was out before freezing eye. And. And I don't know my.

[Joe Button]

I had to get home.

[Flip]

You ain't had to get no fucking home, nigga.

[Joe Button]

You had to get home.

[Flip]

You want a tight leash?

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's good though, right? Feels good for now.

[B Dot]

It's good for him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm having a blast. I'm sorry more of you don't enjoy being home with your partner.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ooh, we like it.

[Big Parks]

I do.

[B Dot]

Ooh, that was

[Joe Button]

nasty. I'm having the time of my life. Hold up.

[B Dot]

That was nasty though.

[Joe Button]

You gotta sweat that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta do that.

[Flip]

His home conditions is a little bit different from ours, so you gotta do that. It's all right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. No, that was good.

[Flip]

Joseph, are you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What time you going to be home?

[Big Parks]

4.

[Flip]

Get your ass in the house.

[Joe Button]

Slap the out of you. Right. You right. Oh, man.

[Flip]

You can drive the cars more though. Are you going to drive the cars more?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip this been running errands. He be going places.

[Big Parks]

Grocery shopping.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, this said Mark. You need anything? I'm going to Costco. I ain't never heard you ask me if I needed in my life I'm

[Joe Button]

glad that y' all are having a blast. Oh, man.

[Flip]

Shout out to you.

[Big Parks]

Yo, and we're glad that you're having a blast. I'm glad you're being a concierge because that's what matters.

[Flip]

You look savvy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you look something.

[Flip]

I don't know. He could.

[Joe Button]

He looks something.

[B Dot]

I know. I got here 10. He was here already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

God damn.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm normally early.

[B Dot]

Not that early.

[Joe Button]

I'm normally early for the freeze.

[Big Parks]

Little early.

[B Dot]

Early.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to my baby. Shout out to all the happy couples out there. Yeah, I mean always for the ladies, always for the la. Shout to wherever you might be listening. From big Jersey. Big Jersey, New York City. What up? Shout out to all the fans that got us on the big screen and shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to y'. All.

[Joe Button]

We appreciate it. Everybody in the cards. Everybody home for the summer. Here you go. All the subgroups out there, all the patronies. Yeah. Did they let you in on streaming University?

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Joe Button]

The is wrong with them, man.

[Flip]

No, I'm inside Streamers University.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Flip]

But I gotta let somewhere else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

You listening?

[Flip]

Well, no, it's a surprise, but I got someone. I'll be. I'll be gone for a while.

[Joe Button]

You always got a surprise.

[Flip]

You have to with like you, cuz.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You Max.

[Joe Button]

You kind, loving, soul,

[Flip]

compassionate like you. Like me. Hey, yo, guess what? I heard what you about to do? I'm good, homie. I learned my lesson.

[Joe Button]

That's horrible.

[Flip]

You beat to the punch, boy.

[Joe Button]

Shout to our brother Ish. Wherever he's at, man. Portugal, France.

[B Dot]

Somewhere.

[Joe Button]

Somewhere.

[B Dot]

You know him?

[Joe Button]

Somewhere. Barbados. Arugula, Michigan.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This say arugula?

[Flip]

Yeah, he did let it go.

[Joe Button]

Aruba. I meant Aruga, but arugula is nice too. Curacao.

[Flip]

Hey, body. Hawaii.

[Joe Button]

Body in the uk.

[Flip]

I can't even pretend I've been sleeping

[Joe Button]

what I take at my place.

[Flip]

Both of our body's feeling so awkward. Your shame makes me wanna concentrate. You do whatever you want.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's looking like one of those nights where we don't get no

[Joe Button]

you have in store for me, girl.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Baby, I'm anxious, I'm trying to focus. Will I be able to take.

[Joe Button]

Mic check? 1, 2, 1 2, M check 1, 2, 1, 2. Shout out to Carl Thomas. It's another Melody classic. Yeah, I need to go to Melody one of these days just to pop my head in and see what's going on in there.

[Big Parks]

Just talking about that.

[B Dot]

When we out, let's go.

[Big Parks]

I got no place

[Joe Button]

making my birthday plans. Listen, there's two types of people in the world. There's those that are humble and those that are about to be humble. Okay, So I walked in Tom Ford like my dick was big again.

[B Dot]

Oh, they humbled you.

[Joe Button]

And I went in there and I got the Parks special.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I got the Parks blazer, the pant, the tie, the shirt. And Crystal. Shout out to Crystal with Tom Ford. She was like, yo, I'll go and get these black studs.

[Big Parks]

Oh, that's good.

[Joe Button]

And you put those on the button.

[Big Parks]

That's where they get you.

[Joe Button]

And they could sew them in about seven.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I said.

[Joe Button]

I said, yeah, nah, black studs.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that sounds.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's nice.

[Big Parks]

They got me on the same yo, Nevis or not Nevis. Wherever the I was at, I said,

[Joe Button]

yo, that's way better than buttons. Yeah, I tried them on Bergdorf.

[Big Parks]

That's what they got me, Bergdorf.

[Joe Button]

I tried them on. I said, I'll take it. Yeah, yeah. And she went and rang it all up. $10,000 for those things?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I got pearl joints. They're about for three little studs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got me.

[Joe Button]

I was like, hey, listen, I' ma go on Amazon and find me the studs. And you could delete that.

[B Dot]

That look like these off of there, but not these.

[Joe Button]

Exactly. And on that note, bring the chorus in. That's what I guess you boy couplings. Nah, I'm not playing with them people. Hell no. They were nice studs, but I mean, I should be able nose and Claire's not. Claire's Claire Studs is crazy. Nah, I gotta let it rock. Gotta let it rock.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I mean, there's a few going through breakups out there. You might need it. Hey, O. Mic check, mic check. One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. Come on, come on. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Grab a seat, grab a chair. Pull up. Come to the front. You can put the drink down. Bartenders, take a break. Come to the front. You're about to miss the show.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who is that?

[Joe Button]

It's Mark

[Flip]

from the Weber nitty era.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the network.

[Joe Button]

What episode is this?

[Big Parks]

944.

[Joe Button]

Welcome to episode 944 of the JBP Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the vibe. Stop playing with them queens. Queens, get the money. Fresh back from out of town Queens. Flip is in the building. Flip, how you doing, man?

[Flip]

I'm good, man. I feel good. What's up, man? Happy to be home.

[Big Parks]

Don't sound so sad, bro.

[Flip]

Yeah. Nah, I'm happy.

[Joe Button]

There we go, there we go. Make some noise for Flip being back in this bitch. Man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Fuck they talking about?

[Joe Button]

Stop playing. There was a lot of think pieces out there, y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Joe Button]

I mean, we got it done. Oh, they was one of, yo.

[B Dot]

They was running up on me in the streets. Yo, where Flip going? Yeah, I swear to God, nowhere.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what I told him.

[B Dot]

He was like, yo, he ain't going nowhere, yo.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, TI Really? Really closed the deal for you?

[Flip]

Ain't nothing. You closed deal for me. Chill out.

[Joe Button]

Next to Flip. Come on, man. Wide awake for the time being.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's Tuesday.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I'm off show Philadelphia. Oh, that's horrible.

[Big Parks]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Philadelphia is finest. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm okay. What's up, Mark?

[Joe Button]

What's up? What's happening?

[Big Parks]

Just okay.

[Joe Button]

What? Malcolm, do you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I couldn't tell you. I haven't had power. I was kind of joking about you losing your power on Friday. That's how the universe worked. When I got home that day, I had no power. And I didn't get bowed back until like yesterday. I was going all weekend with no electricity, no nothing. And I had my son by myself. So it's been a little bit exhausting.

[Joe Button]

My wife, those that are humble and those that are about to be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My wife was at our studio, staying there. Cause she's finishing her book. So I said, just take the end of the week. And I remember I was even joking about that like one time to myself, yeah, that shit different when you ain't got.

[B Dot]

Why didn't you just go where she was at, huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying I didn't want to disturb her. Not that if I went over there and disturbed her. Plus, you know, it's a two bedroom.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not a lot of space, you know what I'm saying? So I found I had three people.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, three people.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Children of people. Two, Joe.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's a studio, so some of the rooms you can't use. Cause I didn't want to mess up the. The aesthetics.

[Joe Button]

That's on, gang.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So I went and got a hotel for the weekend with my son. And we.

[Flip]

I know that trick. Hey, yo, Nico, you go to the hotel?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah.

[Flip]

Hey, what's wrong with you, man?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, what do you need? Power porn? You don't even watch porn.

[Joe Button]

Yo, that's the hotel with your kid when they too Young to give up, really. The details of what's going on? Nah, that's when some prime time shenanigans, Connectivity, what's happening?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I do neither connectivity nor shenanigans. But also, this nigga's four now.

[Flip]

He.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Even if I wasn't on that type time, he would tell.

[Joe Button]

He can tell.

[Flip]

He talks, he talks, he reads well.

[Joe Button]

Ain't hard to get a good creep nut with like such an active child. Like, he's. He ain't gonna leave you for four.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He was playing with some knives in the corner.

[B Dot]

Your kid go snitch on you in Spanish?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, but it was good, though. It was good to get away from the mess. But I didn't realize Jersey was so fucked up, man. Like, in Philly, if a tree falls, they fix your shit like two hours. New York, same thing. And Jersey was out all weekend.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That sucks.

[B Dot]

It was fucked up.

[Joe Button]

That's the thing about that part of Jersey that you're in. A tree is gonna fall on a power line.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

And it's gonna be there for a minute too. They're not coming right out over there.

[Joe Button]

Actually, I've been hearing a lot of stories recently about from homeowners about trees falling on their property.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah?

[B Dot]

Yeah. It's up.

[Joe Button]

Depending how you look at it. Depending how you look at it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

But I know some homeowners goddess shirt.

[B Dot]

Oh, for sure, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Now you're inconvenienced for.

[B Dot]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Joe Button]

Just four to six months.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

But a good couple.

[B Dot]

70, 80. It's worth it on the. On the back end rebound.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

You know people that's getting their whole crib paid off.

[Big Parks]

Facts.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

But sorry if you're going through that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You would say yeah. No, my. Worked out good in parks. Thank you. On Sunday. Cause I thought I was gonna have no power for a third day. So I went to Philly.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I took all your barbecuing tips and recipes and I made a mess. Me and my son in law made a bunch of barbecue nice. And killed it. So I'm gonna make some for y'. All. That's gonna be my thing since no one else will bring any up. As long as y' all accept that it's no pork. I got y'.

[Big Parks]

All.

[B Dot]

Y' all hear that?

[Big Parks]

I did. I heard it.

[Joe Button]

I heard it and I'm cool with it.

[Flip]

Yo, Mark, we good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, y' all want my barbecue? Pause. You eat the white man's pork.

[Flip]

No, I don't. That video showed oh, we good.

[Joe Button]

Jim, once I went to your house for the kickback and nothing was prepared by you. It spoke.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it spoke.

[Joe Button]

And I loved that food. That food was great. It really was rock. But you gotta make something. Something. A dip, a deviled egg, something, you know, outsource everything.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is what I do. I'm gonna do it. Cause I was gonna do a barbecue at the end of the summer anyway at my house. Now I'll invite y' all and y' all can have. I'll make the barbecue and y' all can have it. Y' all get tasting.

[Joe Button]

Awesome.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Big Parks]

Can't wait. Hold you to it.

[B Dot]

We'll be there.

[Joe Button]

Awesome.

[B Dot]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

All right. Elizabeth's finest, Mr. Take it for themself, Mr. Bear Ass. Big freeze in the building. Big freeze. How you doing, man?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How was your weekend?

[Joe Button]

You are looking extra clean shaved today. You look good.

[B Dot]

Thank you. Thank you, sir. My weekend was cool. Quiet.

[Big Parks]

They watch your head too, huh? You going to do the wax of the head?

[B Dot]

Nah, nah. I got my barber take care of that.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Flip]

What you did freeze. What you did?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I go away?

[Joe Button]

And the eyebrows.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Didn't y' all go away? Didn't you and your lady not go away, though?

[B Dot]

They went away.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, but you said you was going.

[B Dot]

And then I stayed home.

[Big Parks]

Oh, you dodged.

[B Dot]

I dodged.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I told you.

[B Dot]

I was trying to find a way to dodge. I did it. I dodged. So I had an entire weekend to myself until Sunday.

[Flip]

What? What you did?

[Big Parks]

Spankathon.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Any thoughts, gentlemen?

[Big Parks]

What's fake a thon? Pretty much with the door open. I know the vibes, yo.

[Joe Button]

A spankath. I'm trying to figure out when that happens now. Oh, vacations she keep.

[B Dot]

Yeah, it's a dub, so. Yeah, it's a dub. You gotta sneak it in. Don't get caught, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You get your. Get yourself a favorite bathroom that don't work.

[Big Parks]

A bathroom. That's a horrible place.

[Joe Button]

That's the only place you could do it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you get yourself a primary bathroom, make that your spot, and then just. You just gotta make. Put a little feng shui in it.

[Joe Button]

Hey, dudes at home, they live with their girl, man. Chat. Leave it in the comments. When do you get to spanking? Like when she go to work without

[B Dot]

her, when she not there or when

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

she go to sleep. That's the.

[B Dot]

Nah, you gotta be careful with that one. No, you gotta be careful with that one.

[Joe Button]

You get stabbed. You get stabbed.

[B Dot]

Yeah, you can't do that one. You gotta be careful with the sleep one. Cause it don't wake up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I go down. I go down to the wall.

[Flip]

Oh, you leave.

[B Dot]

Okay, okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know that basement y' all sitting? As I was saying, I realized. Yeah, that was. Yeah, that's a spot.

[Joe Button]

I felt like such a creep trying to time out the dog walk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You looking through the.

[Joe Button]

All right, so be about. I was like, yo, I think I could get this. I could get this, but it's gonna be cutting it close.

[B Dot]

And then you. Oh, man, you don't want her to come back right before you. You know what I mean?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you look crazy. She walking with dog on a leash. You just sitting there.

[B Dot]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

And then on the Joe Buddenist, the moments that'll be exactly when I put some shit in my eye. Nah, I can't.

[B Dot]

Yeah, you trying to wreck.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, Elmira's Finest Big Parks is in the building. Barks how you doing, man?

[Big Parks]

I'm good, man. I was upstate for the 4th. I cooked out. My parents have central air, but not in the room I stay in, so I really went, like, three straight days without ac, So I was in the stone ages for the weekend. But I had a good time nonetheless. Yo, the bars in New York State up there, they're open till one usually, but because of the World cup, all the bars are allowed to stay open till 4.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my.

[Big Parks]

People just bought a bar out there that we used to go to all the time. So shout out to B. Hall and them. And it was like 2 o' clock in the morning. I'm like, oh, they just wilding like, fuck it. And then my man was like, nah, they can stay up until 4. Cause of the World Cup.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got fucked up all weekend.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, kind of. But we left it like two. Ain't no reason to be outside after two anywhere.

[Joe Button]

Sorry, usa.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it was dumb.

[Joe Button]

Belt the ass.

[Big Parks]

They got the ass. I was about to turn on the game. That was. I looked at the score. I was like, all right. Same shit.

[B Dot]

I looked at the scene.

[Joe Button]

Yo, so you never had that talk with. With your old man that you grew up. You need some air in the room? Yeah, I didn't. I didn't breeze over it.

[B Dot]

I was going.

[Joe Button]

You tried to rush to the bar. Yeah, you got. That might have been my talk on the Rolex. All right, now that I did this. Listen, old man. All right, you see, I need some air in this room now. Goddamn, you're right.

[Big Parks]

Well, the problem is they got the hell painted like a year ago. And the dudes painted all the windows shut in the house. And there's Like, a bazillion windows. So they gotta come have someone reopen all them. So I couldn't put the window in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, damn.

[Joe Button]

Yikes.

[Big Parks]

So, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Big Parks]

Old house.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah, but you got a lot of money. Go fix it up.

[Big Parks]

Thanks. Thanks for that advice, Flip.

[Flip]

Yeah, my mom house, man. Yo, make sure you fix it, man.

[Joe Button]

But they don't sleep in that room,

[Big Parks]

so it's not really an issue for them.

[Flip]

Let me beat you to it, champ.

[Joe Button]

Po is here. Cory here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon here by remote. Last but most certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here indeed.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, Joe, but real quick, what

[Flip]

did you do exactly?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, word.

[Joe Button]

I went to Acme to get some crab legs.

[Big Parks]

Okay, you went yourself.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You went.

[B Dot]

You went.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You went yourself?

[Joe Button]

No, me and my baby went. We went. I don't know why y' all think anything is so funny. I like that.

[Big Parks]

Well, speaking of the places where you could have the spankathon, I guess you could go out dolo in the car and get it done.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm not taking it back to. No, no.

[Flip]

Yeah. Can you imagine?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my God.

[B Dot]

What up, y'?

[Flip]

All? It's Queen flipping the Joe Bud podcast.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Could you imagine? That was 05 for me when the car was to go to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, never done it.

[Joe Button]

Go in the back of the parking lot.

[Flip]

You have to.

[Joe Button]

All the way in the back of the parking lot.

[Flip]

Serious?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've never done that.

[Joe Button]

Face them. So you can see.

[Flip]

Yeah, it's a charge mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know that I. I can see

[Big Parks]

why he got the limo with the limo tent shits. He act good the cur up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Your driver be mad, but you know

[B Dot]

Joey probably loudest in the car. The car.

[Joe Button]

What the going on?

[Big Parks]

The car shaking.

[Flip]

Hold on. Was so in the car.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm about to say so. Just looks straight.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

When that shit's going on, he just drive by your house and goes, drink.

[Big Parks]

He be like, so don't you got a prayer or something?

[B Dot]

That's how you tom it.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Oh, my God.

[Flip]

So you bought crab legs?

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

All right. So I went to Whole Foods to get some crab legs. They don't stink.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cool.

[Joe Button]

Got em. Anyway, then I went to Acme, got some jumbo snow crab legs. They steamed them up. I got seven pounds. Thought that would be enough. Got back to the house. It was a house full of kids. We ate four pounds of them. Then I went back and got some more crab legs and shit, and then we went back.

[Big Parks]

That's all you had was crab legs.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Button]

No, we had other shit.

[Big Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Button]

But the crab legs is what I kept running back for. We did the bulk of the shopping in the morning, shout out to my baby. We came and it was kicking. That was the third time I told you. That was the third time I told you.

[Flip]

My God, she's getting the shit out of me.

[Big Parks]

Yo, Sade, real quick, what would you grade? Joe?

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Please come over here. Cause they having a blast. Come on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that. It's not that type of party. And I told you there. Outfits.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

Oh, on the mic real quick.

[Big Parks]

We just want to see a grade.

[Joe Button]

That's it. Behind the couch. Behind the couch. Me Ice don't play behind the couch.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Hey, neck up. Neck up, girl. Stop adding thank you to it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because this girl be on there looking good.

[Joe Button]

Hello.

[B Dot]

Talk about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Hello.

[Joe Button]

Shut up. Show that baby. Show it.

[Big Parks]

Show it.

[Joe Button]

Well, you ain't. Come on. They wonder what grade.

[Flip]

The mic.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The mic. I just want to tell you, he gave you a C plus the first day. He gave what?

[B Dot]

Oh.

[Big Parks]

Oh, no. He said he better A. Except for the one day.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said one day was an A. He said a C plus, then an A. Right?

[Big Parks]

But then he said it's been A ever since.

[B Dot]

And then a C plus.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, then a C plus. My bad.

[B Dot]

When?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I got the C plus A. Begley.

[Big Parks]

I think it was a dog. Really?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what? If you leave the dog alone, he's gonna leave you alone. Joe loves animals. So he keeps trying to come over there, grabbing him, doing all the extra Joe shit.

[Big Parks]

He don't like that shit. He's a troll.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And the dog is like, leave me alone. I'm trying to protect my mom. But no. But then he came on here and was fake. This is helpful. Okay, so the first day was a good day, but.

[Joe Button]

But no, no, no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let her talk.

[Flip]

Let her talk.

[B Dot]

Let her talk.

[Joe Button]

We don't interrupt women.

[B Dot]

We don't interrupt women. Let her talk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's used to being in the house by himself. So I had to tell him, bring your ass out the room and help us put this stuff away.

[B Dot]

Okay?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause he was like, what? I'm just sitting here watching tv. No, no, no. You're gonna come out here and put this away.

[Joe Button]

That's not the way we heard that at all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That story was so different.

[Big Parks]

He described himself as a concierge 24 hours.

[Flip]

He lies.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He lies. I keep trying to tell you guys. No, he doesn't. Yo, I've been a 24 hour concierge. I've been just helping and scratching and moving and lifting.

[Big Parks]

That's how he's described it. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He brought the dog outside one time.

[Joe Button]

Thank you for.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I've been here about a week.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Big Parks]

So what would you say the grade is better? Yeah.

[B Dot]

Yeah. What's the letter grade?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Letter grade? I would give him an A minus overall.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

That's good. That's good.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

That's like a 91.

[B Dot]

I ain't gonna hold you. He did say, like, yo. He was a min.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My Aus.

[B Dot]

Overall.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Shout out to sh.

[Big Parks]

Was there any days that were like a C?

[B Dot]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

All right. And we are. And we are back to the Joe Buton podcast. I am Joe Button.

[Flip]

He tried to wash guy. You got to block. Try to fix it. All of a sudden, that's scolio. What you got?

[Joe Button]

Scolio and shit cleared up quick. Y' all are stupid nuts.

[Flip]

That was fire. Y' all on the same page like that.

[B Dot]

We joking, but that was fire.

[Flip]

At first, I. I thought you was in the door. That's why I ran over there to laugh. I was gonna have a time, but that was good. He said a minus.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't get him to say a minus. He did say that.

[Flip]

And that wasn't rehearsed. Right. I just want to make sure.

[B Dot]

No.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Big Parks]

Our C.O.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

look.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Big Parks]

No.

[B Dot]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

Okay. Where do you beautiful people want to start? Anywhere.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just on a quick. Attached to that. I just got breaking news. It's not that important, but Will and Jada are living together again. They've announced that after three years, after her saying they've been separated for over a decade, they have decided to cohabitate. And they've been together, apparently, for two full years. And they're in love, and they're happy. And Will has.

[Joe Button]

Mark. Where's that news breaking?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Tmz.

[Big Parks]

He's from Philly. Really?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Tmz. It literally happened, right? I was sitting here.

[Flip]

Well, it came out yesterday.

[Joe Button]

Who asked about this?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, we were talking about cohabitation. I was just thinking, like, Will got out. He had a free run for 12 years. Going back takes a lot, eh?

[Big Parks]

You get tired of the streets. Some people.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, y' all don't give a fuck.

[B Dot]

Keep moving.

[Joe Button]

No, listen, good for them. Like, great to do in July, right? Right before August.

[B Dot]

You still sharp, yo?

[Flip]

Yeah, that was good.

[Big Parks]

That was good shot.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, wow.

[B Dot]

You still sharp.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn, I'm slow sometimes.

[Flip]

Just. All right, let me share with you

[Joe Button]

and Bink sent me a beat the other day.

[Big Parks]

Oh, word.

[Joe Button]

It's kind of hard, too Studio.

[B Dot]

How long you let it play?

[Joe Button]

It's kind of hard.

[B Dot]

That's what I know I let it play for.

[Joe Button]

It was a long. I was taking. That's where I got to listen to beats.

[B Dot]

That's the office now.

[Joe Button]

I told you, get all your done in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's your favorite bathroom.

[Joe Button]

Now. I'm in there.

[Big Parks]

Chill.

[Joe Button]

I'm like, I should put a mirror up here. I try to decorate the couch. Couch. All right, good, Good for Will. Go Will and Jada.

[Big Parks]

Awesome.

[Joe Button]

We absolutely love that. Love wins again. Come on, come on. Mark, Mark, come on, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You said you wanted to take the lead on it.

[B Dot]

You did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You said that. So I'm gonna let you take the lead on it.

[Flip]

Hit me up today.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So you about to find out. Flipping. You got thoughts on it too? But. But Joe insisted on taking the lead on this, and I respect his leadership.

[Joe Button]

The first thing I said. The first thing I said was, I agree with anything Marcus gonna say on

[B Dot]

it, but you said, I'm gonna take the lead on this one. Let me.

[Joe Button]

It was like satire. It was like a joke. No, but I will take the lead on it. Hey, hey, listen, listen. There's a video being circulated, and this story's been going around for a little bit. One, that I've tried not to touch. One, because Big Tigger has been a great guy to me personally and my own experiences. And two, I figured I owed him that because I've never heard one drop of smut spoken on his name by anybody. I gotta be honest with you. So this is one of those stories. I was just gonna let the details come out and we report on it then. But this morning, videos began circulating of what the Internet or some parts of the Internet is calling. Well, it's a domestic dispute no matter what. Yes, sir. So it's a domestic dispute of we see his wife or is his ex wife. Which one?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wife.

[Joe Button]

Current wife.

[B Dot]

Yeah, I'm gonna double check that, but go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They're going through a divorce.

[B Dot]

They're still married.

[Joe Button]

Okay, there we go. They are going through a divorce. So footage of his wife running with his phone and he's running after, and she falls to the ground and the video is out there. I don't want to go through the details of it, but I was going to take the lead because unfortunately, I do have a little bit of experience in somebody taking your phone and running. Now, this video caught me off guard because this is from The. This is on some 90s. This is how we handled it in the 90s. My got my. She on my icloud. It ain't no tussle. She don't need the physical phone no more.

[Flip]

They don't.

[Joe Button]

They don't need the phone.

[B Dot]

They don't need the phone.

[Joe Button]

And if they got the phone, they put it up to your face while you sleep. And they. This is some old school throat run. Run out, you chase, lock yourself in the bathroom. Yeah, this is mad old school.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is some old school.

[B Dot]

That's old school.

[Flip]

No, I would say you're in the basement.

[B Dot]

They older, though.

[Joe Button]

They older, but that's what I said. The first thing I said was, okay, they on some real throwback fight for the phone shit. But I said I wanted to take the lead. Cause I wanted to tell Big Tigger, hey, no matter what, you can't take the phone.

[Big Parks]

Nah, just let him take the phone, man.

[Joe Button]

Why not like the guy? Rules have been updated. You lose from the 90s.

[Big Parks]

You lose.

[Joe Button]

We got more information about how to handle those situations without going to jail, without being accused of abuse, without being accused. When they take the phone, should they have done that? No. But you cannot put yourself in a predicament where you are now physically handling this person in an attempt to get your phone back.

[Flip]

So you can't aim for the phone and try to grab the phone at the hand.

[Joe Button]

That's not gonna bode well.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It don't end well. Like flip. See how you're sitting right there?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If I just tried to grab your phone, in theory, I could grab it without us having any physical interaction. But you go and reach and try and protect it. Okay. Next thing you know, you grab my arm. I see you see what I'm saying? And that's how it just get ugly. And if you already feel away. Cause you people don't look in phones unless they already know what's in a phone. Right.

[B Dot]

Got it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not like they just let me just take a random look. If you look, you either know what's in there or you expect you got a dent. Not just. You might not know the specific thing, but you kind of know what's in there. So they already on 10 by the time they reaching for it and you trying to take it back. Every dude says, I'm just doing it. Cause it's my phone. It's my phone, it's my right. But what people hear is, I don't

[B Dot]

want you to find it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. So everybody's on 10 when they reaching for that shit. And it's always gonna get physical, and it should never get physical.

[Big Parks]

It's much easier to make amends for whatever's in the phone than it is to deal with the backlash of trying

[B Dot]

to take the phone, probably, especially as a public figure in any way.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[B Dot]

Cause now you dealing with the other side of that. Like, you stepped away from the radio show. Like, now the fallout can affect your career and going forward. Whereas, like you said, yo, we just. We'll work through whatever you found in that phone.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Or not.

[B Dot]

Between us. Or not. But you got too much to lose to even try to reach for the phone today.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What was the video for? Me, the video was. I want to be careful because I don't want to sound insensitive. Insensitive or toxic. What I read the video was. Was far more intense than what I saw on the video.

[Big Parks]

Agreed.

[B Dot]

Agreed.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought it was going to be a lot worse. It still shouldn't happen. It's still unacceptable.

[Joe Button]

That's why he get paid a bit.

[B Dot]

But

[Joe Button]

it didn't go on. That was fly how you worded that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just want to be honest about it. You know what I mean? But. But whatever is there is still not okay. And you don't want to. Like you said, you don't want to be in a situation where you're explaining what you did to reporters, publicists, judges, the job.

[Big Parks]

The problem is that people are going to read the words more so than they're going to analyze the video in most cases.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that's right.

[Big Parks]

You know what I'm saying? So if. If there's a. A hubbub about big Tigger gets in domestic dispute with wife, and you see, even just two seconds of that video, you're like, oh, this is bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

And it's bad, but again, not probably as bad as the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not what I read.

[Flip]

All right, hold on.

[Joe Button]

All right, did we.

[Flip]

I'm sorry, did we all watch the same video?

[Big Parks]

I think so.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe not.

[Joe Button]

What. What. What is.

[Flip]

What are you talking about? Was bad. The fact that he was trying to retrieve his phone back.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. You shouldn't do that.

[Flip]

Okay, so that's what. So we have to be clear, because I didn't see him. I saw her drop herself on the floor. One, he didn't push her on the floor. Two, he didn't seem aggressive to me.

[Joe Button]

All of that's gonna be open for interpretation.

[Flip]

Oh, we were talking about a video. Yeah. Mark just said that it wasn't as worse as we read it. Right? Yeah. Yeah, but when we're speaking on it, we should give details of. Cause when you say it's bad, what part is bad? Yes, we acknowledge that you shouldn't go after the phone at all. But there was also. The story was overhyped to me. I don't know if I'm using the right word. Yeah, no, it wasn't that.

[Joe Button]

It wasn't him striking her. It wasn't him hitting her, it wasn't him kicking her. It wasn't any of that.

[B Dot]

In any situation it's overhyped. Once the courts and all of that get involved, anything, a car accident, somebody tap you and now next thing you know you show up with a neck brace. You weren't hurt like that.

[Big Parks]

But then what are the jokes that's gonna read bad in the lawsuit?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But it is bad. But again, like it's just not what we thought. But any. The moment where you have to be saying to people who don't know you, this thing that you saw of me and my wife in our personal matter at home isn't as bad as you thought.

[Joe Button]

You lost.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You already lost.

[Big Parks]

You lost.

[B Dot]

Absolutely.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Fair.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all. Fair. And at 50 or however old our brother is and the sister is. I don't wanna. I don't wanna be. I don't wanna roll on the floor with nobody and I don't wanna be explaining to nobody why I'm rolling the floor with nobody.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's just better way. It's just better ways to do shit. And I shoot not trying to give anybody out there any tips. However, isn't there a way to write. Just write the phone remotely?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, you can break your shit.

[Flip]

You can.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just thinking like even just on some tech shit, that's what you can like like you said, this seems like the old 90s verse version.

[Flip]

She don't want to wipe your there some dog sometimes some. You a back your up freezy.

[Joe Button]

My.

[B Dot]

If it's something in there that's damn this. You want to wipe your them videos, whatever's in there. If it's that bad.

[Joe Button]

Yeah you do.

[Big Parks]

Cuz you. If you also are. Say you got a side piece, right. And there's videos of the side piece. Theoretically you could probably get more videos.

[B Dot]

Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Big Parks]

It's not that serious.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't replace.

[Big Parks]

I'm bricking that damn phone if you

[B Dot]

can't again weigh it on a scale. I fight to get this phone and everything. I stand to lose. Fighting to get this phone. It's not worth it. Just flat out.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, Go ahead, Joe.

[Flip]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

You guys are right, right?

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

However.

[Joe Button]

And I agree with everything y' all are saying, but come on. There are times in these typ. In these matters when the character of the people has to come into play.

[Flip]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

Right. I also want to choose my words carefully.

[Big Parks]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

Before we get to the phone incident with. With this lady. Where's the daughter?

[B Dot]

I saw something about.

[Flip]

What the.

[Joe Button]

Are we talking about? Way. How did we get to the phone so fast?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the daughter part say?

[Joe Button]

This young lady's daughter has been missing for seven years.

[Big Parks]

What? I didn't know that part.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know this part of the story.

[Joe Button]

The father says that.

[Big Parks]

The father's not Tigger.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

The father says that this happened under her care and the daughter got missing right before she was scheduled to be returned back to him. Oh.

[Flip]

What?

[Joe Button]

The daughter still has not been found.

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Joe Button]

Oh.

[Big Parks]

This is a very big wrinkle.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is the strangest thing I've ever heard.

[Joe Button]

And this same lady was being investigated for reckless endangerment to a child when she left this child in a vehicle for over seven hours.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I do remember that, but I.

[Joe Button]

Oh, well, then I feel like that should be brought up.

[Big Parks]

This should be brought up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How would it be relevant to the story?

[Big Parks]

Because it speaks to character. The character, the actions of the person. Meaning maybe she is unstable.

[Joe Button]

Unstable, not well.

[B Dot]

Psyche off.

[Joe Button]

Aaliyah Brown was reported missing from Riserstown. I'm sure I'm fucking it up, Marilyn. On May 25, 2019, when she was 10 years old. She has never been found. Found. This is right on Google. Like. This is not. The disappearance followed a lengthy and heated custody battle. Her father, Darrell Williams, had obtained full custody and claims the child disappeared shortly before she was scheduled to be returned to his care. Said that he maintains that Brown knows exactly where the child is located. Years prior to the disappearance. Brown faced criminal charges in 2014 for child endangerment after leaving Aaliyah unattended in a vehicle at a Maryland casino for approximately eight hours.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Sorry. To me, all of that is relevant.

[Big Parks]

Yes, it is.

[B Dot]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[B Dot]

I'm not. Not. I don't know anything about these people. I'm not judging. Courts don't usually give a father full custody unless it's some.

[Big Parks]

It's bad. Unless it's bad.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's really hard to get. That's true.

[B Dot]

It's very hard for a father to get full custody. You gotta prove some outlandish shit for that to happen.

[Joe Button]

So when Flip says, it appeared to me that she herself fell to the ground, again in the court of law, that will be up for interpretation. But when you start to bring in the character of the people, it's not so far fetched that she may have.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I see what you're saying.

[Joe Button]

I'm not pretending to know. Please don't put me on the record.

[Big Parks]

And this potentially, hypothetically could all have been somewhat planned being that someone was there to videotape it. Yeah, I don't know. This all sounds pretty suspect.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If this is all there is, video wise, if there's no other footage, if there's no other video, if there's no other thing of him being striking her or anything like that. I see your point. I see what you're saying. That makes complete sense. And I don't know of anything else. I'm just saying I'm getting this information in real time. So I don't like to make judgments without vetting anything. But based on what you're reading to me. Yeah. I mean, there's some serious questions.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'd say.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is why I don't like to report on this. Honestly. Two weeks ago, I guess it's been about two weeks when this stuff started coming out. I didn't put it on the board. None of us put it on the board. And for me it was the same thing as I need more information, I need clarity. I never want to jump the gun. Sometimes you have to jump the gun when a video comes out or when a statement is made, which is what's happened now. Because honestly, if this video hadn't come out, I still wouldn't have wanted to

[Joe Button]

say nothing about it. Well, again for me. And listen, if details come out and it proves that Big Tig is a complete piece of shit, then we'll have that conversation at that point. Of course, for me it's tough to be famous as long as he has and your name not be brought up in anything. Especially when he spent most of his years around loads of women. Yeah, like Tigger did the weekends in DC. He did the weekends in fucking Dr. Or wherever they was fucking going with every girl and woman in entertainment damn near. We've just never heard a peep. So for the things. And I'm always weary when the info comes out amid a custody battle or

[B Dot]

a divorce to paint. Sometimes it's used. I'm not saying in this case, but those things be used to paint a person a certain way.

[Joe Button]

So I'm gonna pray for all Parties involved first. I'm gonna continue to wait for more details to be revealed. And again, like we said, if he's a piece of shit, we'll come right back here and call it. But I need more than what the video is showing at this time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me pivot a little bit.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Away from that, but still adjacent. Cause we've been talking about women going through phones. Have y' all ever been phone goer throughers?

[Joe Button]

No, I've done it.

[Big Parks]

I went through a phone once.

[Joe Button]

Of course I'm done it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Bad idea. I assumed you had.

[Joe Button]

Don't assume I had.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything about you says that that's nice.

[Flip]

That's not nice.

[Joe Button]

What the hell?

[Flip]

Yes. No, Mark, that's not nice.

[Joe Button]

Give me more on that profile.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, you've talked to me about following people, knowing what people are doing email logins. To me, the phone was like level one. You described levels two, three, and four before. You like the final boss of this shit. So I would imagine looking at the phone was like just what you did. Especially back in the day before you had phone recognition and all that shit.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Where you just pick the phone up and go.

[Joe Button]

But I don't go in phones.

[B Dot]

I don't go in phone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I either.

[Joe Button]

I don't touch a phone. I won't look at a phone. I won't answer a phone. Yeah, because I used to go on phones.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. I went on my list. I've done it too. I've done it twice.

[Joe Button]

If you ever been in phones and found what you were looking for and more, you won't touch nobody else phone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I don't even look at stories. Like, I remember. I was think. No, let me tell that story.

[Joe Button]

Oh, boo. He'll never get the chain.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want it that bad. Joe don't wear the chain. He doesn't respect it.

[Big Parks]

It's crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe's one of the people that just wants.

[Flip]

Changing the subject. He just wants to win, but he

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

doesn't actually care about the people who give the chain. A vote on the chain. He hasn't worn it since he won it.

[Flip]

Go back to the story. Why you don't look at Corey.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you get it out the trash, at least. Damn.

[Flip]

Why you don't look at story?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No. Well, I'll tell you about phones. I looked at. I dated a girl one time and again, same girl with the football player.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The one that I walked into a crib and Philadelphia Eagle was in there. Yeah. I followed her one time. Not like follow follow, but like we were literally on the same road. And I was like, I wonder where she going. I just kind of looked to see, and I was like, this felt like too much. Like, I didn't go. I didn't see. I didn't follow her to the end. But later on, I looked at her phone and I saw her texting a dude. And I remember keeping that dude's number. Like, I put that dude's number in my phone. I never called him, never checked on him, never did none of that shit. And then about maybe 10 years later, I was exchanging numbers with a brother, an actor who I met.

[Big Parks]

And it was that number.

[Flip]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. As a matter of fact, he's on that TV show. What is it? I don't think he would care that I'm saying it. His. Stephen Hill is his name. Not bet, Stephen Hill, but the other Stephen Hill.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I gotta look him up.

[Joe Button]

No, we gotta look at that. Hold on, Mark, hold up. Yeah, we gotta see what dude look like.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's a cool dude. I like him a lot. Steven with a V. Huh?

[Flip]

With a V. Steven with a V is some white American actor who died of that.

[Joe Button]

Ain't this nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No. If that happened, y' all should all clap. No, it's a black dude, dude.

[Joe Button]

Oh, here we go.

[Flip]

Stephen Hill.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's on, like, a CBS show.

[Flip]

Oh, this the Dawson dude.

[Joe Button]

Him and Demar.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me see.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, no, that's him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, him. Yep. We connected at something. And I was like, yo, let's exchange numbers.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you better connect.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And we exchanged numbers. I said, just dial me. I gave my number, said, just dial me.

[Big Parks]

You had him phone something crazy, too, didn't I?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely had his name in Spanish. It wasn't crazy. It was just, like. It was something that you wouldn't peep right away.

[Big Parks]

Got it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And. And then, like. But it popped up. He's like, why is my. Why is my name in your phone already in Spanish? And I said, oh, you used to fuck my girl. Oh, shit.

[Joe Button]

You said that?

[Big Parks]

Yeah. You kept it all the way real.

[Joe Button]

You said that.

[B Dot]

You said that to him?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I didn't care. She was.

[Joe Button]

That is very beta behavior.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no. I just. Believe me, it was fine.

[Big Parks]

That's funny.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the homie.

[Big Parks]

That's crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

To be clear, me and him are cool. We were already cool. We just.

[Joe Button]

What choice did you have in the match?

[B Dot]

Y' all been cool.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nigga, we got a laugh out of it. It wasn't, like, how he respond when you said that. He was like, nah, dog, I never Fucked a nothing. We just went out once. I was like, that's cool. First of all, she wasn't my girl at the time. We had broke up. But also.

[Joe Button]

Sure, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But also, like, I didn't care. He didn't care. It's been decades. It's literally been. It was 2006.

[Joe Button]

But if you didn't care, then why are we bringing this up? Word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause it popped up on my phone. Cause he saw it. I wouldn't have thought twice about it. He saw it and then it was just funny. Cause I didn't make the connection.

[B Dot]

And.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And then we laughed about it. That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

But that was caring a little bit. I hear you. I hear you. You might not care that, but yeah, no, you care, nigga. You care, cuz. Before you just had a number. Now you face to face, they're amongst us.

[B Dot]

You sized them up. You did the whole, oh, it's him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But the ill thing is.

[Joe Button]

And he ain't chump. He look like thug you.

[Flip]

But this was years later, he's saying,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

but the ill thing is I had been around him for years and just didn't realize he was the same guy.

[Joe Button]

Dude, no, he been around for years. That's what we saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't talked to her since. Since.

[Joe Button]

Mark, it's okay. My brother, he's still trying to piece it up in his mind. Oh, man. Mark. It happens sometimes. He knew.

[Flip]

You think he knew?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He had no idea. He looked. He looked shocked. And when I told him who the girl was, he was like, oh, like, when we put it together, we both laughed. It was just funny.

[B Dot]

He downplayed it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This shit was 2006.

[Flip]

I got you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We had this conversation, like, 2019. 2020.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. It was so long later, it didn't matter, but it was just mad Fl.

[Joe Button]

Funny. No, true, true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So I. You.

[Flip]

That's real. That's real.

[Joe Button]

You. The whole.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You a d.

[Joe Button]

Talk about what? Nothing. Pee about that.

[Big Parks]

Not even a little bit.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, when you go through a phone and see something that you think is there and it's really there, that is like a. Like you start to suffocate. You start to hyperventilate.

[Big Parks]

The only time I went through a phone, I realized, guys now easily looking back, I shouldn't have been in that relationship, Noah. Like, it was a toxic relationship. Like, did you.

[B Dot]

Did you did what you find?

[Big Parks]

It wasn't nothing super damning, but it was like.

[B Dot]

I'm saying, did you use that to exit the Relationship. No, that's. That's why.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the other part. You rarely leave.

[Big Parks]

Right.

[B Dot]

That's the reason why.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you rarely leave. The one time I looked in the phone, I. I didn't leave. I mean, I left eventually, but like, I didn't leave at the time.

[B Dot]

Not because of that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[B Dot]

So it was the.

[Big Parks]

And in fairness, if she had went through wo, which she probably did. Did. There's probably some shit in there that she would be upset about too. So that's the other thing.

[Joe Button]

And I was booed. I was going in phones, like, right when the spring was about to break, like my whole summer was finished. I also don't stand by anything I did in my 20s. Word. Like today. Like, in hindsight, my 20s was nothing but exploration, trial and error, information gathering, childish bad decisions.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Immaturity.

[B Dot]

Ain't that what your 20s for?

[Joe Button]

Instability. My 20s were a wreck, but I was talented.

[Flip]

I agree.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Same flip as a married person.

[Big Parks]

My friends were telling me horror stories over the weekend. I was like, not horror stories, but just our wild out stories. I'm like, I don't even remember that. I blanked that shit out of my mind.

[B Dot]

Once you get married, you get a clean slate.

[Big Parks]

No, not even like on some.

[Joe Button]

But you do.

[Big Parks]

Being doofuses.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't.

[B Dot]

You don't at all.

[Big Parks]

Anyway, you're sick.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was going to ask him, like, do you. Cuz I'm. I'm. For me.

[Joe Button]

How you know when a clean slate start?

[B Dot]

My clean.

[Big Parks]

Someone's got to clean your slate.

[B Dot]

Oh, somebody got to clean it.

[Big Parks]

Hey, someone got to clean your slate. Pause.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you talking about when you married.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Dude, once you get married, nobody cleans your slate.

[B Dot]

What's up, Joe?

[Flip]

You married Free?

[Joe Button]

Don't play with me. You know

[B Dot]

I did not. No.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait a minute.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That would explain the mysterious weekends.

[Joe Button]

My aura ring. Oh, she got you aura ring and no aura. They got aura ring. Anyway.

[Flip]

What you say, Mark?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all good. It's all good. I was. I was just curious to know how y' all thought about Mark.

[Joe Button]

He her. Yo, you still really still talking about

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

this old girl we all know.

[Flip]

Hey, he lied to you too. Like n.

[B Dot]

He kept me pee, though. He like. I ain't even do that.

[Big Parks]

He took it easy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he ain't.

[Big Parks]

But y' all think he, like, bad too?

[Joe Button]

Like crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Steve and the answer's

[Joe Button]

always yes to that question. Word.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

For the most part, anytime I answered it. No, boy, rude awakening was coming. I did it bubbly, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ah, she didn't. You.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[B Dot]

Oh, yeah.

[Flip]

Watch.

[Joe Button]

Watch this. Oh, that was a long day.

[Big Parks]

Old Twitter was. That's a place to find out your girl is someone.

[Joe Button]

Old Twitter. God damn. These a lot of you.

[Big Parks]

Who?

[Joe Button]

These bitches a lot. You gotta be careful what you believe.

[Flip]

Anywho, you just want to believe it.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[B Dot]

Not my baby.

[Joe Button]

Holy shit. Yeah. Oh, man. Some of them niggas that used to be a problem back in the day, too, got sick.

[Big Parks]

All right.

[B Dot]

No.

[Flip]

Sick how?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

See, yo, you a have to do it all.

[Flip]

You have to do that. Let it go. How's the business?

[B Dot]

You see, we all let it go, right? Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I'm not all the way cleansed.

[Big Parks]

Still, some of that's funny.

[Joe Button]

The algorithm will put it homeboy right there. He be like, see, look at this. That's horrible, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, get him out of here.

[Joe Button]

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[Flip]

Yep, yep.

[B Dot]

So good luck.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, use discernment. I mean, a little bit of discernment should do you better picks than whatever Ish was giving y' all anyway. So sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Sorry to do my man like that.

[Joe Button]

Sorry to handle some winners while he's going. A couple times, he's won a couple times. He's about two for 900.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right.

[Joe Button]

He's not too bad. So listen, choose wisely. Use discernment. And remember, no matter what you do do, don't blame us. And if you download the prize picks app right this very second and use promo code JBP, you get $50 instantly when you play your first $5 lineup only on prize Picks, the official partner of the NBA. Speaking of NBA, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill has some very strong feelings about this Scotty Pippen story that's out there.

[B Dot]

Yeah, you said you wanted to take this one. You said you wanted an ISO.

[Joe Button]

You said you wanted to take the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

lead on this one.

[B Dot]

I asked for an ISO. You said you wanted the lead on this one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Scotty, I specifically said I don't want an ISO, but I do want to talk about it.

[Joe Button]

No, you said, I've got strong, passionate feelings about Scottie Pippen prancing around with this 23 year old.

[B Dot]

Well, that's what you said, let's give

[Big Parks]

the man what he wants.

[Joe Button]

And I asked him a few times, you dead ass.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Are you sure you want ISO?

[B Dot]

I witnessed it.

[Joe Button]

So it's your world. Hey, audience, you in for a treat right here.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't got no ISO. I ain't got no ISO. I want everybody's involvement but Scottie Pippen. How does he know?

[Flip]

60.

[B Dot]

60?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Is it even 60?

[Joe Button]

No, 60 something. I'll check.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, whatever he is. So, yeah, I mean, he's drafted in the 80s, but like, whatever he is, his girlfriend is 23. I think at some point he's 60. 60?

[B Dot]

Yeah, he's 60.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think at some point. At some point, brothers, like, it'd be too much. It'd be too far. The gauge gap. That is just a little too much to be dating somebody that's 30, 37 years.

[Big Parks]

I couldn't imagine dating a 23 year old at four years.

[B Dot]

I can't imagine talking to a 23 year old.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got kids that's older than her. He got kids in the NBA. Like, at some point, I see these two niggas looking at each other. I'm waiting, but at some point I just.

[Joe Button]

Flip is staring off into the abyss.

[Flip]

No, I'm not.

[Joe Button]

I'm looking at him, waiting to catch eye contact with him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw you. I thought he was going back.

[Flip]

No, he got kids in the NBA. Yeah, I was just.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all Scotty Pippen Jr. Yeah.

[Flip]

I didn't know that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

My point is, like, people can do what they want. Date who you want. It's your life. I just think at some point. Scott Pippen's been moving weird for years for me. And this just is another part of the midlife crisis bag that I see him operating from.

[Joe Button]

Has he been moving weird for years? What else do you think is weird?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Since the documentary. The documentary came out. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

See, but that's not weird to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Say more.

[Joe Button]

Michael Jordan basically used it, leveraged his power and erased my entire being from what should be my most momentous moment. Yeah. I don't think it's weird if Scottie Pippen has feelings and holds a grudge over it and changes Some of his takes on air to see, that's the part. I don't know. LeBron is better than him. I'm hurt.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm hurt.

[Joe Button]

And he wasn't the only one hurt. The rest of the team was hurt. So, I mean, I just don't get that. Mike is on record for being a dick and being an asshole to not just his teammates, to rappers, to other famous people. So if somebody has ill feelings, I just don't think it's weird.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think the ill feelings are weird. I think some of the stuff. The way he moves since then is a little weird. So you're saying the actions after the feelings were too.

[B Dot]

What's some of the action like for me?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like. Like the way he talks about Michael now, even saying, like, I intentionally didn't call him when his dad died. Like, Mike didn't even know that. You could have just said, I don't fuck with him. But bringing up his dead dad and saying, I didn't call him out of that spike, that shit's weird and didn't have to happen. And that's actually the thing, I think, that made Michael say, I'm never fucking with him again. We can't get past this. Cause of that shit you did with my dad. Like, it's little things like that. When I look at his tweets, everything seems to be a dig and a jab. Seems like every single position he's taken about, he now says the opposite. And again, that, to me, gives. There's something about it that feels so.

[Joe Button]

It's hurt.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But again, it's how he's doing it that like, just. I just don't. It feels like he's in a crisis.

[Flip]

When did this start, though, between them?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When the documentary came out, the last dance.

[Flip]

Did Mike intentionally shit on Pippen or he was just telling his version of a story?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think he intentionally shit on him. I just think Michael, to your point, is such a dick that being himself. No, no, I didn't hear what I'm saying. Who Michael is, is such a. He's a very specific thing.

[Joe Button]

No, no, no.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I think he. I don't think he. I don't think he started a documentary, said, let me shit on Scottie. I don't think he thought.

[B Dot]

I think he said, I'm shitting on.

[Joe Button]

All of. That's that on the fence shit that you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not on the fence. I'm just disagreeing with you.

[Joe Button]

I'm saying you don't know that you disagree with Me? Cause you haven't heard what I said.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, he asked you.

[Joe Button]

Trying to clean up. I know what he asked you. I comprehend.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Michael Jordan had last edit on the power of edit, creative control. That part is known. Who cares if he didn't go into it intentionally trying to shit on Scott.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that was his question.

[Joe Button]

That Tony Kuko Hulk segment in whatever episode that was, where Scottie Pippen refused to come in the game and this new European kid came in and hit the game winner and Tommy was. Scotty wasn't for his team. He didn't like his contract. So he said his teammates. Yeah, that's. Michael Jordan had the last look at that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Who cares what his intentions were at that point?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think his intention matters.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because if I understand you correctly, you said, did he. Did he intentionally try to.

[Flip]

That's my question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And I'm saying no, I don't think he intentionally did. I think Michael is oblivious to other people's feelings. That's my point. I think he's completely oblivious. I think Michael Jordan thinks about Michael Jordan. And he only thinks about you if your agenda happens to match his. When you're playing basketball. It does. Cause he wants to win a championship. And you need four of the motherfuckers. Once that's over, I don't think he cares.

[Joe Button]

And that's fucked up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree. It's fucked up. I'm not saying Michael Jordan's not fucked up. I'm saying how Scottie's responding to it, to me, goes beyond just being hurt. We all could be hurt by some shit.

[Joe Button]

What do you think about how. And I don't. I'm not harping on Mike. What do you think about how Isaiah Thomas comments on Mike? Do you look at what. What lens do you look at that through?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A little different. And that's probably. I'm biased a little bit because Isaiah's a friend. But I think sometimes Isaiah goes too far too. Same same way I. I have the. I have the exact same reaction intellectually that I do with Scotty, but I'm a little more sympathetic to Isaiah, which probably isn't fair.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Okay.

[Flip]

Would you be able to ever put yourself in Scottie's shoes? What I mean is that if you. You were a major, if you were a part of an organization, you help whatever you help, your contribution to somebody shits on it. Right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, I don't think he shit on it, though. He's omitted me too. I think he told the truth.

[B Dot]

Let me ask you a question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he told the truth.

[B Dot]

I'm sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And we'll get back to his girlfriends. I'm not connecting this to the girlfriend, but this is interesting.

[Flip]

And they shit, you know, you hold on to being pivotal, having a pivotal role in this organization, and you just. And a nigga just take that away from you. How would you respond? Wouldn't you respond the same way? Because before that, I looked at Scottie Pippen as a clean cut guy. I didn't see any of this behavior before when I looked at Scottie Pippen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Charles Barkley might say something different when he was in Houston. He gets in moments where he.

[Flip]

I'm talking about publicly.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Then I'm talking about. He gets in moments where he does publicly sometimes go at people. I mean, he was saying Charles Barkley was fat and lazy when he went after Isiah Thomas. Again, Isaiah was made into the bad guy. So everyone said, oh, it must be Isaiah's fault.

[B Dot]

But that should not let me different

[Joe Button]

if you never did it without me.

[B Dot]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, I think y'. All. This is why. I think y' all being too hard on it.

[Joe Button]

And I wanna get back to the girl.

[B Dot]

We are.

[Big Parks]

We are.

[B Dot]

I just wanna ask Mark one question. If Joe, in, let's say five years puts out a documentary on the jbp, but it shits on you, your. Your contribution, I expect it to. No, I'm talking about it really. Like Mark wasn't shit. Like it just shits on you. How would you feel?

[Big Parks]

But that wasn't the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not what happened.

[B Dot]

But that. But that is what happened. Let me diminished Michael. He diminished Scottie Pippen's roles. He diminished totally.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He did.

[Big Parks]

I think he just omitted.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's how I heard it, okay? And I've watched this documentary. He said I could not have won without Scottie. Everything I am, I only have because of Scottie. He said that in the doc, before the doc and after the doc. Oh, he didn't. He talked about how great Scottie was. The doc also was critical of Scottie in ways that it probably wasn't self critical. I agree with that. Like Michael didn't say the worst parts about Michael.

[Joe Button]

Say the worst parts about Michael, but

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

he showed the worst part of Scottie Pippen's career, which was him not going back in that game and him choosing not to have the surgery over the summer. But to me, those are both true. Now, you may say as the whole. I think a better example and beep this. If we. I think we can use it. It would be like if you told the whole story of this podcast and you talked about your first two co hosts and you told the whole story, and then there's a moment. You say there's a moment where we left, where they left, or where there was a departure, your version of how that went will be different than their version of how that went. And they may feel like when you tell the truth of what happened, that they weren't represented. Well, that doesn't necessarily mean that you did something wrong because of how you represented that. I think. I think the way he told the story of Scottie not going into the game was 100% accurate. And I've never heard anybody, including Phil Jackson, tell a different story. So to me, it was. He told the truth. Maybe you feel like he shouldn't have told the truth, but.

[Joe Button]

All right, let me try. Take Parks, for example.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's doing crack under the bridge.

[Joe Button]

If Parks was sex trafficking downtown. If Parks was sex traffic in downtown Buffalo. No, for real, seriously,

[Big Parks]

let me finish.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'd love to finish.

[Joe Button]

Please let me finish. Not get what you're saying, but back to the. Back to the. Back to the. Who he's. Who he's dating and how old he is. Right. Cuz I agree with you there too. If I'm looking at the entire picture, but if I'm only looking at Scotty Pippen and at. At some age, it does start to look nasty. But I mean, I guess. What is that age?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it's 50.

[B Dot]

I'm about to say 60 is clearly in that age, though.

[Big Parks]

I think it's younger than 50.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's younger than 60.

[B Dot]

I think it's younger. I think it's younger. But I'm just saying, you clearly in

[Joe Button]

that you is crazy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What age you think it is.

[Joe Button]

Well, I'm with y'. All.

[B Dot]

And how young is the girl?

[Joe Button]

I understand those older wealthy men who are objectifying and exploiting younger. There are a lot of men out there that subscribe to that whole. The younger, the berry, the. It's nasty for me to even say it. I'm down with y', all, but I don't think that age is 60 for those guys. We still got. Who's that? De Niro, Pacino, one of them. Like. Like a Cher we got. There's too many examples of people that are 70 and up that are dating 20 year olds.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Dick Van Dyke is 100 years old. Literally 100 years old. His wife Arlene is 54. Like, I don't see. That's even worse example. I'm saying, like they didn't just get together.

[Big Parks]

I think someone 50 years old. I mean, at a certain point the age gap thing doesn't mean much.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, they've been together.

[B Dot]

See, to me, it's the fact that the girl is 23.

[Flip]

You.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, exactly.

[B Dot]

That's the part. Yeah, like that. I'm not that age gap, cuz. Again, 50, Dick Van Dyke 100. I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They've been together 14 years still.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but my ex wife was dating my teammate that I hates kid. At some point, he's fighting back.

[Flip]

I got to fight.

[Joe Button]

You got to fight fire with fire again.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Midlife crisis.

[Joe Button]

You got to fight fire with fire.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the Michael Jordan connection.

[Joe Button]

My thing is, listen, I think the age thing is nasty, but it was men. I mean, if you're gonna jump into that world, go get you some 23 year old heat. That was the. Yeah, listen, I done seen Scotty out with heat.

[B Dot]

You told.

[Joe Button]

That's why it's confusing. Big Tick, I looked at this video,

[B Dot]

him and his wife.

[Joe Button]

I was befuddled for at least three hours. Sorry. I don't know what they want me to say. At some point we gotta say the truth.

[B Dot]

I was say that about a. I

[Joe Button]

was like, yo, who is this strange person in this nigga's house? I seen Big Tigger with the crim Della Crim, best of the best. Charming and funny. Stealing them a fucking assassin out there. This is where the Monopoly board ends with a go to jail card.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shit.

[Joe Button]

With this fucking psycho lady that lost her daughter. Hey, hey. Y' all talking about red flags. How big do the fuck flag gotta be? If on date one. How long have you been married? If on day one. Hey, you got kids? Well, I did, I did.

[B Dot]

Hey, what's up?

[Joe Button]

What do we talk about?

[B Dot]

I've left less for less someway. So you. The kid ain't around at all. All right.

[Joe Button]

No, but you got to know. You got to know where. No, you still got to know where they at. Yeah, that's on page one of the deadbeat dad rules. You can still get some if the girl don't see your kid around, around you. But you got to know where they at if. In case they ask. Hey, where's your son? Oh, Alaska. Yeah, I just mailed him something. You can't just be like, sorry.

[Big Parks]

That's true. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What you think is. Is there is. Is this specific example too much for you? Like the 60 and 23?

[Flip]

No, I mean, it's the lifestyle.

[Joe Button]

This is the same man that came on Here and introduced us to. To what we now know as cousin soup.

[Flip]

I said cousin and cousin make good soup at the same time. Look, I do agree at. At some point it's a six.

[Joe Button]

That bro. That cousin bro.

[Flip]

At some point it looks funny.

[Joe Button]

They are amongst us.

[Flip]

Oh,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

disgusting.

[Flip]

At some point it does look funny. But these girls and it's a lifestyle, my nigga. That's a whole different. I was just in Miami. It's a whole different thing. It looks crazy. It's a whole lifestyle and it's too much for me to get into, but I do think it's sick.

[Big Parks]

What did you learn in Miami?

[Flip]

Yeah, I mean, like, there are some girls, 21 to 23 to 25 that date older men.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How old? About 37, 38, 39.

[Joe Button]

Back out of there, big dog.

[Flip]

No, like, like 50 year olds, 60 year olds. They are. They have. It's a plan, sugar daddy. They congregate in the corner like whatever they on. And Flip is not part of that. Actually, you know, what's they.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the cut off for you?

[Joe Button]

You.

[Flip]

I'm married.

[Big Parks]

Hypothetical.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't have no. I mean like in. We all married. Like, I'm talking about hypothetically.

[Flip]

Are you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm more married than you're not.

[Flip]

My wife is at home, not another apartment.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And mine is allowed to leave.

[Flip]

Mine is too. Actually. Mine can kick me out like she been doing yours. Like you been kicked.

[Joe Button]

Both of y' all home situations is a little similar. It ain't left me. When Mark was at that little local bar for that N sat in Mark

[Flip]

for five hours twice a year and you chilling with N. That was a

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

real cry for health.

[Joe Button]

Word. You think it was up in friends going up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

His doctor homies go to the bar.

[Joe Button]

That was a rough two weeks for Mark.

[Flip]

It was.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was. Yeah, it was rough.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, my cut off age would be like 27, 28.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you got to work on your.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you got be high. You got to work.

[Joe Button]

That one that didn't even look like it's cool.

[Big Parks]

You move on.

[Flip]

You got to be high.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you're lying.

[B Dot]

Not lying.

[Joe Button]

Confidence in the flaw. It's like rapping. It's like rapper hands in the mirror.

[Flip]

Listen. It's a certain conversation.

[Joe Button]

Eminem, 8 mile.

[Flip]

It's a certain conversation that a 23 year old can't have with you. You're not on the same page. Even if you try to. Oh, you look good and shit like that. It's like. No, they start talking about some dumb shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You Want to talk politics?

[Flip]

Nah, I don't want to talk no politics at all. Nigga, for me it's 27, 28.

[Joe Button]

Well, the tinfoil hat shit that I read a few months ago said that the older, wealthy niggas call over the younger people and do a blood transfusion so they could get their blood.

[Flip]

Oh, you talking about some stupid shit.

[Joe Button]

I'm telling you, I've heard what the tinfoil community said that the wealthy people are doing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even think it's that complicated. Yeah, yeah, they want fluids, but that ain't it.

[Big Parks]

Different fluids, different broth.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yo, if you're going, do it, man, let it be heat. It's 23 year old heat out there, man.

[Flip]

She not bad like that. She don't look nasty. Come on, don't do that. She not mad. I just looked at the picture.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me see.

[Flip]

She's not mad, yo.

[Joe Button]

Well, do you think. Well, that's the first problem. Do you think that you and I have the same interpretation of what that is?

[Flip]

Yeah, I got better.

[Joe Button]

No, that shit you did, you made Miami look.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, that wasn't. I wasn't playing around with Selena Powell. Watch your mouth when you talk to me. Nigga, I'm Queen's flip. Anytime I walk into a building, you

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

about to back yourself into the.

[Flip]

Nah, I'm just saying watch your mouth.

[Joe Button]

You made it look. Come on, yo. Come on, Rep. What? It's heat out there.

[Flip]

I'm a faithful man.

[Joe Button]

But it's heating, my man.

[Flip]

I'm a faithful man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I see what you're saying, but this might be a bad shot out there, though. This is like you might have caught out a bang.

[Flip]

Yeah. What?

[Joe Button]

Took it to what? Nothing. You keep saying what and I ain't saying nothing.

[Flip]

Hey, can I ask you a question?

[Joe Button]

I don't want you to, you know.

[Flip]

You know me. I'm your man, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Flip]

So what I'm saying is that you think that I fall for any shenanigans out there. You know me, Joe. Come on, man. We on the same wavelength. When it come. Mentally, when it comes to these things,

[Joe Button]

do I think in a dark matter type universe that Selena Powell could get some attention from you? Is that what you're asking me? Yes. Ask them first.

[Flip]

I'm asking you. And shout out to Selena Powell. I mean, she.

[Joe Button]

She. Yeah, I ain't got no beef with her.

[Flip]

She's cool. She, you know, shout out.

[Joe Button]

But yes, I'm looking her up now. Come on, Joe.

[B Dot]

I'm sorry, What?

[Joe Button]

She had she taped off this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I'm looking. I'm looking at Selena Powell now. Yeah, Joe. Yeah. No, Flip would never fall for this.

[Joe Button]

Look at mar.

[B Dot]

Somebody else over the weekend.

[Flip]

She just recorded and exposed somebody over the weekend.

[Joe Button]

Listen. Hey, you played. You play how you want to play, my brother? Yo, while we talk about absolutely nothing, I want to take this time out to say that Mario of, you know, baby, you should let me love you.

[Flip]

The singer, Mario.

[Joe Button]

Mario is not meant. Mario can't background. He can't be a background singer.

[Big Parks]

Who's he singing backgrounds for?

[Joe Button]

Chris Brown.

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no.

[Joe Button]

Him. Eric Balinter. Yo, somebody needs to explain to Mario what being a backup singer. A background singer means. You can't do that shit. He back there doing it, dog. It's Tank. It's him. And it's Eric Bellinger. You know that Tank and Eric Bellinger do know how to sing background. They from the church. They standing there. They doing the same. They're doing the two step at the background, only. Mario back there gyrating his hips, fingering his mouth, fucking making a fake vagina with his hands, licking it. Masturbating back there. Yo, Tank looked to the side like, yo, dude. Yo, is you good, nigga? I'm gonna play the clip. Y' all can't. Y' all can't see it, but I'm

[B Dot]

on Mario's side, all right?

[Joe Button]

That's against background singer rules.

[B Dot]

Yeah, I know. I know. This is stadium show. Stadium tour. I don't get these. I'm showing the fuck out. Fuck y' all talking about?

[Flip]

That's fire.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's gonna be his last one.

[B Dot]

That's okay. I wouldn't get one before this. No disrespect to him. Him.

[Joe Button]

Why? That's not working. What happened? Crazy as hell. Oh, it's the wrong core. I'm slow.

[B Dot]

Absolutely crazy. It's my show. I'm.

[Joe Button]

Check this. Nah, dog. And you singing the song like it's your song. N n. Look at this. He doing the 5 RP with the mic. A no, dog. We got to fix Mario. Mario's a free friend of the show, but we got to get that together. The more clips I see of this Chris and Usher concert, I don't think I'm going.

[Flip]

Why not?

[B Dot]

I don't think I'm going. I'll recap it for you.

[Joe Button]

You can tell me all about it.

[Big Parks]

Because of the length pause.

[Joe Button]

Well, that and, like, I saw Chris Brown. This looked like. And I saw Usher, right? This just. This just looks like Usher mixed into the Chris Brown show.

[B Dot]

That I saw.

[Joe Button]

It don't look like nothing different. This the same Chris Brown show that I just went to.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

With Usher sprinkled in.

[B Dot]

Y' all killed me when I said it. I told y' all what this was.

[Joe Button]

We ain't seen a clip of Usher yet on this goddamn either. And that's the other thing. Where the is Usher at?

[B Dot]

He there?

[Joe Button]

Show him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Sprinkled him next. He'll be next to Tank and Mario.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Trying to tell you something. Y' all called me crazy when I said it.

[Joe Button]

This weekend in New York City, Yankee Stadium. The whole shows Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that is this weekend.

[Joe Button]

Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The whole shows are taking place.

[B Dot]

He just announced another one, too, for London. I want to say.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Was London right? Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No. Get your beans ready. That was one of the most awesome moments in my life, like learning about London. Breakfast. Oh, you were.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You had to see my America.

[B Dot]

What the fuck is this?

[Big Parks]

Raw tomatoes at this hour?

[Flip]

What the fuck are we doing this weekend anyway?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, now, this weekend, New York City should be on fire. It is contingent upon the weather. Cause the weather has been nuts.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Is y' all going?

[Big Parks]

How.

[Flip]

Huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry. Are y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know you going. Y' all still. I. I never around. I got my tickets. So.

[Big Parks]

Joe, Sunday looks clear.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. Sunday gonna be clear.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's gonna be.

[B Dot]

It was. It was Saturday.

[Joe Button]

Was Saturday, Friday, Friday, Saturday. Folks, they might have to struggle with Saturday's.

[Big Parks]

What?

[B Dot]

I'm. The weather was jumping around back and forth.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got the. You got the. You got the sweet?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got the sweet? You heard me.

[Joe Button]

I don't think it's sweet.

[Flip]

That's a sweet nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You cover him well, did you. What? You. What you got?

[Joe Button]

No, I don't have nothing, man. Actually, a friend of mine has some tickets they will. That they're gonna sell to me.

[Flip]

Stop lying.

[B Dot]

Your friends always be coming through with like that.

[Joe Button]

Seriously. My man, he got tickets for the Saturday show, and I'm thinking about buying the tickets.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Come on. I might buy him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all got your tickets?

[Big Parks]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. This is one of the things. I just figured it's gonna happen, it's gonna work out, but I don't know exactly how, but I'm not trying to pay a million dollars for.

[Flip]

For him.

[Joe Button]

You can come to the suite. I'm not charging a million. You and your wife, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Joe Button]

And Malcolm. No kidding.

[Flip]

How many days you got the sweet for?

[B Dot]

Listen, that's the.

[Joe Button]

That's the problem right there. When you take one picture, you got to take a bunch of pictures.

[Flip]

I don't want no picture with you, you ass. How many days you got the sweet for?

[Joe Button]

I've had the sweet conversation I wanted to have, which is with Mark. With Mark.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, you know what?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We'll be there.

[Flip]

You know, every once in a while you get into these behavior habits that I see. And if I feel that you're using somebody else or bigness somebody else or giving somebody else favoritism, you know, I tend to go a little stray. You know what I tend to bring. You know, I may come in here. I just don't want any problems. We've been good. I just signed my shit. I feel good. Please don't open that door.

[Joe Button]

Door.

[Flip]

Cause once that door open, I'm not closing it. I'm on that. I respect you. You respect me. You could talk to your man, invite him and all that shit. I still end up in there with my camera and I put my middle fingers up.

[Joe Button]

Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. A camera? Just when he was in the middle of your speech, he was turning the tide with me. I'm like, you know what? Flip's got a point now. You start talking about cameras and Selena's

[Flip]

to get at you.

[Joe Button]

Cameras and what? Selena?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Nah, I don't know about that now. I don't know about you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want no problem.

[Joe Button]

First of all, there'll never be a day on earth where Mark is invited somewhere. I am before. You. Don't ever think that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So he was invited to the thing last week.

[Flip]

You was busy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's peace. You.

[B Dot]

Mark is a.

[Flip]

That's dope, though. I can't. I can't wait to see.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I don't know if. And this is going to sound like New York elitist. I don't know if I want to go to Yankee Stadium too, nights in a row.

[Flip]

Jose crazy.

[B Dot]

You do, you do. Cuz it's not the same show back to back. That's. That's the only reason why, if it was the same show, I get it. But again, you got the Reasonable Doubt show, which is its own separate thing, the blueprint show. And then whatever Sunday brings. If you doing Saturday, Sunday, you can't lose.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm feeling Saturday, Sunday right now. Friday, Saturday, I don't see happening.

[B Dot]

I saw an anniversary show of reason without already, so I'm cool.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I'm thinking Sunday's gonna be more like the Ruse Picnic show in terms of like a bunch songs across the albums.

[B Dot]

I got Sunday being the Show.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, got it. Samesies. Yeah, samesies. That should be a good time. We have a good time on Sunday.

[B Dot]

What else?

[Joe Button]

What else? What else?

[B Dot]

Did y' all hear this story I was telling? I was telling Mark a little earlier. So, dude went to the store, he bought. Bought some groceries, whatever. Got home. The wife told him, yo, that orange juice you bought, you spent too much for it. Go take it back. Huh? Just follow me. So he goes back to the store, returns the orange juice. But the money he got back, he bought two Powerball tickets. Okay? And one of them hit.

[Big Parks]

How much?

[B Dot]

315. $315 Million.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[B Dot]

So now I was asking Mark, I'm asking, how'd that work out back home?

[Joe Button]

See, I missed the first sentence in the story, which kind of fucked my whole thing up.

[B Dot]

Well, he went to the store, he bought an orange.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Orange.

[Flip]

You said, just return it, send it back.

[B Dot]

She's like, yo, you spent that much on oranges, man, take that shit back. It's too much.

[Joe Button]

His wife.

[B Dot]

Wife.

[Big Parks]

So was the wife paying for the groceries?

[Joe Button]

If it's his wife, you busting it down anyway.

[B Dot]

If you still married after that.

[Joe Button]

If you divorce, you busted it down.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Definitely busted it down. You busted it down either way. If you.

[Joe Button]

Once they married.

[B Dot]

Oh, I wasn't married. And that happened.

[Joe Button]

Oh, now she'll get the.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a better question.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, well, no, she'll get the difference between the new OJ that I bought her and the too expensive OJ.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let her have the whole OJ. Give her the whole $5.

[B Dot]

Buck 89.

[Big Parks]

That's a good idea.

[B Dot]

You can have the OJ. So if you're not married, what you do, Flip? You not married.

[Flip]

I am.

[B Dot]

I'm not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you're not hypothetical in this, you relax.

[Flip]

You relax. You stupid niggas. Soon come watch your mouth. Don't knock any accent. You be talking with my wife in them comments since they getting me in a lot of. So that's why I want to be careful. Yeah, you let the white woman between your legs. Oh, well, hey, I wasn't mad.

[B Dot]

Yeah, yeah, that was. That was. It was crazy.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, Flip.

[Flip]

Hey, why y. Why y. Can't let a just live? Yo, y', all, who you. I think, is built this. You built this universe.

[Joe Button]

I'm so sick of it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You built this narrative.

[Joe Button]

No, no, not narrative.

[Flip]

You built a universe where the people gonna come and talk about my wife in the comments, where the girl has to reach out to me and say, yo, please tell your wife I said, I'm sorry. Call Me about the Joe Button TV community, all that. Like, girl, what are you talking about? I don't even know that you're in there. And how do you even know about that? For real? Let a live. Yo, they put my wife name in the comments. Nigga, my wife is incognito. Boy, that woman minds her business and go to work. Let her do it. Let her live her life. This life isn't for her. You understand what I'm saying? Let me create. Nigga, back to you. If it was my wife. If it was my wife, currently, she would get.

[Joe Button]

Yo, she put that. The whole thing, nigga.

[B Dot]

Whole foot.

[Joe Button]

Yo, she learned this, nigga. It gonna be another one.

[B Dot]

She was up here with his ass.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, it won't be another one.

[Flip]

I got away with that holly shit. Living her in the head.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, when you was body slamming. When you put your hammer. When you body slamming.

[Flip]

Are you crazy? The body slamming?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, when you buy.

[Flip]

I forget if currently I give my wife the whole thing right now. If it was a girl, if it was last week, she getting like 2 million.

[B Dot]

That's it. Okay.

[Flip]

I got kids.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If the person sends you to the store.

[Flip]

I'm joking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they the reason you got the 315. You gotta bust it down a little bit more. Of course.

[Flip]

Come on, Mark. No, no, no. I know you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't talking about what you said. I'm just saying in general, like. I'm saying, like, you.

[Flip]

Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. I wouldn't give half.

[Joe Button]

You don't got to do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, you do. That's.

[Joe Button]

No, you don't. No, you don't.

[B Dot]

No, you don't. She didn't say, hey, go buy a Powerball ticket.

[Big Parks]

You got to separate.

[Joe Button]

Go buy it.

[Big Parks]

You got to separate these the numbers. You're good.

[Joe Button]

I hit the lotto and bought the cheap orange juice.

[B Dot]

Oh, no, she getting orange juice. I might get you two couple different type of candles. Sunny D, all the brands. Here you go. Take your pick.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

315. It's your girlfriend. How much do you get?

[Big Parks]

Girlfriend?

[B Dot]

Is it still your wife?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Like you said, you got to go half. But, like, if it's not your wife and it's 315 million, she the reason you went to the store.

[Flip]

15 million.

[Joe Button]

No, we ain't got a harp on it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I said what I said. I didn't hear your number.

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear your number, nothing.

[Big Parks]

Oh, she don't even know this happened.

[B Dot]

Yeah, it's not your.

[Joe Button]

Why does she know more?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all ain't, man.

[Big Parks]

Hey, man.

[B Dot]

Hey, man.

[Joe Button]

I didn't see a future in it. I'll take. I'll take the risk. Used to kill me with that. Oh, you'll never find another like me. Well, I'm gonna see. I'm gonna put my best foot forward.

[B Dot]

Close enough.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm the best you ever had.

[Joe Button]

Well, time will tell. If you're ultimately right about that.

[B Dot]

Find out.

[Joe Button]

Roll the dice. Yeah, I'm willing to roll the dice. Let's see, what else is important, unimportant. Let's see. What do I have here? Fourth of July.

[B Dot]

We got a list.

[Joe Button]

Even though we didn't talk about how there was no fireworks, at least on my part of town, I'm glad.

[B Dot]

Ain't nothing to talk about.

[Big Parks]

Fireworks upstate.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There's fireworks in my neighborhood.

[B Dot]

It wasn't. Usually it'd be fireworks from, like, the 2nd to the 12th.

[Big Parks]

Ain't not for nothing. My backyard over here is so much debris out there. I know they was going crazy, crazy over there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I ain't see enough.

[B Dot]

I.

[Joe Button]

They start making me think. They must want me to take that ride down 95 again. Y' all want me to get back in the game?

[B Dot]

No.

[Joe Button]

I'll go right down there to the spot and buy all the fireworks. All the neighborhood kids will come gather around. They'll think I'm the Santa Claus of July. Just let me know if I gotta get back in the game. I do it for the kids.

[B Dot]

Niggas fucked up.

[Big Parks]

I don't think that would do well in your current neighborhood. You might find somewhere else to let all it off.

[Joe Button]

These was. They was putting M80s underneath traffic cones.

[Big Parks]

Oh, over here.

[Joe Button]

They was doing all types of nut over here. And it's better than shooting people.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Big Parks]

It is.

[B Dot]

That's an upgrade. It was a quiet fourth, though, like I said, especially with it being on a weekend.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And the rain was in the way, too. I mean, the heat.

[B Dot]

I was. I was happy.

[Joe Button]

Three people lost their lives in New York City from the heat. Rest in peace.

[B Dot]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

26 people lost their lives in New Jersey. Okay. They rest in peace from hypothermia or whatever.

[Big Parks]

I think it's that one.

[B Dot]

It wasn't that. It wasn't. It was definitely.

[Joe Button]

Was that Rest in peace.

[Big Parks]

Rest in peace.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That's terrible.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why does he do that?

[Joe Button]

How y' all know it wasn't y'?

[Big Parks]

All?

[Joe Button]

I ain't do a think.

[B Dot]

We know what the word hypothermia means.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If you Die. Hypothermia in July.

[Big Parks]

You deserve it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Who are. What the was you doing?

[Big Parks]

Trying to get cool, man.

[Flip]

Possible.

[Joe Button]

No. Well, may it rest in peace.

[B Dot]

Yeah, Rest in peace, though.

[Joe Button]

What else? What else, what else, what else? What else? What else is on the music, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We got a list.

[Joe Button]

We got a list. Oh, we got a. For the show list.

[B Dot]

Who got the list?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got it.

[Joe Button]

I posted on my Twitter, B do put out a list of the top rappers of the year.

[Big Parks]

This one always goes over well.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

What's the criteria?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So what I liked about B Dot's list, shout out to B Dot was that he put a. The reasons he said based on skill, song slash features, and presence. First six months of 2026. And so number one, sugar silver. Should you start from the back?

[Joe Button]

Pause, pause.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we can start from the back.

[B Dot]

All right, we'll go from 10.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number 10, Rick Ross.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

The hell is that based on?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[B Dot]

I mean, the Max Infringement record.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

You got two of those that chart it.

[Joe Button]

That ain't enough.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Presence was probably versus and his record

[Joe Button]

that he put out, which is a

[B Dot]

dope record, but I like that.

[Big Parks]

I'm not mad at him. Yeah. I'm not mad at him in a week or two when his album drops.

[Joe Button]

But for the first six months, I don't think he. He got enough to. No, yeah, I don't know about that.

[B Dot]

But anyway, Presence, where's the go ahead?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number nine, Currency.

[B Dot]

Currency did put a couple projects out this year.

[Big Parks]

Put out the Larry June and Alchemist show, which was dope. I love Currency, so I'm not mad at it.

[B Dot]

I'm not.

[Big Parks]

I don't know if you would have been in my top ten, but yeah, go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number eight, Rock Marciano.

[Big Parks]

Okay. He dropped a dope tape this year.

[B Dot]

One.

[Big Parks]

One tape. Not mad at that.

[B Dot]

Okay, go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number seven, French Montana.

[B Dot]

I'm not mad at that. These are making more French. Had a nice, nice year so far.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He did French Rock Montana make more sense to me than Currency and Rick Ross in. In terms of.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Where they are. Number six, Juvenile.

[Big Parks]

Juvenile drops tape.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number five was this year.

[Big Parks]

No, I don't think so. Okay, maybe it was.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think it was.

[Big Parks]

Was it?

[Flip]

What was this year?

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it was this calendar year, maybe.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Number six is Juvenile. Number five is Kanye West.

[Big Parks]

No. Absolutely not.

[B Dot]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Presents the out the the Bully album did all right. And them shows, the shows been.

[Big Parks]

Been doing something, but he has not been rapping good. This is the worst rapping.

[B Dot]

But again, it's not just skill.

[Joe Button]

Skill, skill.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Songs and features and presence.

[Big Parks]

I think there should be weights on these things. Yeah.

[B Dot]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Because part of the problem is if you're famous, you always gonna have presence. Even if it. You know what I mean? Some of the presence ain't even about the music.

[Joe Button]

That's fair.

[B Dot]

That's not true.

[Joe Button]

Some people are famous and look to have zero presence.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true. I guess what I'm saying is when you get to the top of the list, it feels like some of these people are higher on the list. Cause they have more presence, but they always naturally gonna have more presence. When you see the top of the list, you see what I'm saying?

[B Dot]

And I disagree with that. By the top of the list.

[Joe Button]

But go ahead. Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Four. Oh, yeah. You know what? I might be wrong for Freddie Gibbs.

[Big Parks]

Not mad at that. I love his tape.

[Joe Button]

Skill.

[B Dot]

Yes, I do love his tape.

[Big Parks]

He's been moving around.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good with Freddie Giggs.

[B Dot]

He should be on there. I don't. Not at four.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number three is J. Cole.

[Big Parks]

Cole put out a tape, and he rapped really well on it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And he had a lot of presence.

[Joe Button]

He had a lot of double album and a hard mixtape with Clue.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Facts.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And he was everywhere with the run. I actually think that's.

[Joe Button]

And he took that faith. He made it to every city in the Civic.

[B Dot]

He did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He did.

[B Dot]

You know what?

[Joe Button]

You got to give it to him. Just fast and a good mechanic.

[B Dot]

Yep.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cole makes sense to me.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number two.

[Joe Button]

And he ain't called Drake. That's right. I wonder if they spoke yet. Hell, no.

[Big Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

Hell, no. Hell no.

[B Dot]

Drake ain't talking to nobody now. Especially y'. All.

[Joe Button]

We got another big Drake beef coming at some point.

[B Dot]

It's here.

[Joe Button]

Well, go ahead.

[B Dot]

May be this weekend to solidify.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Number two is TI okay.

[Joe Button]

Two, though. I've done that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think that's. I agree.

[Joe Button]

I support being a prisoner to moment. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But I mean, if you think about the B. If you think about the. With 50 all up to now, he's had a. Oh, that's a lot of presence.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying. It ain't just the moment.

[Joe Button]

And his family stepped in on that one skill is there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Songs features is there, and presence is there.

[Flip]

It's there.

[B Dot]

It's there, it's there.

[Joe Button]

I'm in.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

TI Was number two.

[Joe Button]

You.

[B Dot]

You convinced me. I forgot about that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And number one, y' all be shocked to know is the boy Drake.

[Joe Button]

Drake.

[B Dot]

And it should Be.

[Joe Button]

And he should be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Me, I'm good with the.

[Flip]

With that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm good with that.

[B Dot]

I am tired of you list.

[Joe Button]

Get them. Freeze.

[B Dot]

Intentionally leaving Wale off your list. And I don't care if y' all want to call me biased, because that's my friend. Whatever. There's no way you can you beat out, you know better complex, all of y' all that's doing these lists. I think it's a thing now.

[Big Parks]

Last year, though. No, I started to interrupt your rant.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Big Parks]

His. His album was last year, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Everything is hot was last year.

[B Dot]

Yeah, that was last. The tour is this year.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[B Dot]

The album. The three records off of the album

[Joe Button]

are doing what they're doing this year.

[B Dot]

Are doing that this year. Cuz that album came out November. So all of your. Even though the album dropped, all of

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

your movement is November 14th.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, I put them on.

[Joe Button]

You know, if you put your album out in November, December, you kind of get robbed.

[Big Parks]

You do. Always, for sure.

[B Dot]

Always.

[Joe Button]

Always. But I agree with what everything Ice is saying.

[B Dot]

I still think that there is a. Even if this was last year, it don't matter. I think there's a thing with the people that do all of these lists because Wale is known to be so reactive when he's left off, it's like a promo tactic. Sometimes you see him. It's not like you don't see him. If you're in hip hop media in any way, you see what he's doing, you see the turnouts, you see it. So it's like, all right, you know what? Let's leave him off because he's gonna give us our promo by going on a rant or he's gonna address this and he's gonna to. As they say, you know, he gets sensitive over these things because he's passionate about his craft. And I'll get the W reaction, which will help my list out. I'm tired.

[Joe Button]

Do you think there's a world where B Dot just doesn't feel the same that we do about the W album?

[B Dot]

It ain't just the album, though. No,

[Joe Button]

Too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[B Dot]

And for the type of person that he likes, no, I don't think that's the case.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

B has agreed sense of taste in hip hop. Even if I don't agree with every single pick, none of us agree on every single.

[Flip]

We should call that nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He knows. First of all, everything is a lot. Wale's album is an amazing album. It's just too good of a fucking album. For someone who knows hip hop to not like it. And I know B Dot knows hip hop. I bet you if he made a top 15, Wale would be in it. He probably got wale somewhere around 11 or 12. I just think it's too low.

[Big Parks]

I would have had baby keem in 38. Special, while we're speaking to friends on this list.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's. That's good.

[Big Parks]

Special put out a great project. Killed his verse on the Benny shit. He's been shaking shit up on the Internet. Internet with the Jadakiss takes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Whose spot does he take? Currency.

[Big Parks]

And Kanye west can go somewhere else for now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I think Special is a great pick, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think Special. I agree with you.

[Joe Button]

And again, I am shutting up because I don't know which one of you deserve to be on the list or not. I am not qualified. I ain't listening to no rap like that. I have no idea what y' all are rapping about. Well, not enough. Enough to be able to say who's doing it the best. Yeah, sorry. Sorry.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with you.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what they're doing.

[Flip]

And.

[Joe Button]

And.

[B Dot]

And, I mean, I get it. I. I think this should be a proxy thing. It shouldn't. Max should be up there.

[Joe Button]

All right, Who?

[B Dot]

Max should be up there.

[Big Parks]

Backslashed.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you should have.

[B Dot]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Okay, I agree.

[B Dot]

If French is there, Max should be there with French.

[Joe Button]

He's been.

[Big Parks]

He's been around. He's been around.

[B Dot]

Just coming home after doing 17 to run that. Max been on the. That he's been doing his records and all of that. That's presence. That's everything. Everything that you listed it. If French is there, Matt should be there. They should be there together.

[Joe Button]

Stepped to Big Daddy Kane. Even though he got his food aid, he still stepped to him, right?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Presence.

[B Dot]

Presence. But, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, y' all convince me.

[Big Parks]

But not bad list, be Shake.

[B Dot]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Why are we getting a list in July, though? Though?

[B Dot]

You know, like, all right, we halfway through the year. This is like a progress report. Let's see where we at and then do at the end of the year. I'm not mad at that. I like that. Over the end of the year. Now you're trying to remember back to January that you ain't listening to.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[B Dot]

You don't forgot.

[Joe Button]

We miss you, B. Dot. Word. I left your seat empty.

[Flip]

Watch your mouth. Yo, Watch your mouth. I gotta let you deal with my man. Watch your mouth.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He's trying to bait us he's trying to bait.

[Joe Button]

Anyway.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, real quick. Drake album and platinum.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[B Dot]

Oh, I'm pretty sure that's.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, yeah, actually, I mean, cuz he put out the three albums that did 750 day one.

[Flip]

In my mind, just not listening. Y told number one, I would imagine. What the. You about to talk about?

[Big Parks]

I would imagine it's platinum.

[Joe Button]

Trigger's platinum.

[Flip]

You said what?

[Joe Button]

He's platinum.

[Flip]

All right, so that means you did your research. You could have just said, yeah, Flip, he's platinum.

[B Dot]

Well, what the.

[Joe Button]

Are you out there? You could have asked Dean to grade that. Don't come up here. Don't come up here and have yo stop playing with us.

[Flip]

Jacob's out there, too.

[Joe Button]

Lot of people in Turks, coincidentally, at the same time.

[Flip]

What you think is going on?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, lucky I live with my girl now.

[Big Parks]

They say 1.6. 1.26 million total sales today. That's AI saying that.

[Joe Button]

So let's go.

[Big Parks]

But I believe that sounds right, right?

[B Dot]

It says they haven't. Ria hasn't certified it yet because the label hasn't completed the certification process.

[Flip]

Oh, it's over.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That ain't never getting.

[B Dot]

That's what they do.

[Joe Button]

The check is in the mail.

[B Dot]

Damn. Who the Was it Somebody posted this was like, yo, I officially have my first platinum single, but I'm not doing all of that because I got to pay for this. I got to pay for that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got to.

[B Dot]

I got. Here, here's the. Here's the. From riaa. The invoice got it showing. Hey, it's platinum. And if you want it, pay this. I'm not paying that. So here. Here's my proof for y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[B Dot]

Oh, I forgot who it was. I'm sorry, but that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Respect.

[Joe Button]

Respect. Now. Freeze. Going to turn the volume down. Yo,

[Flip]

please don't stop the music. Let's go.

[Joe Button]

Power off on the ring.

[B Dot]

Yo, what's the problem?

[Flip]

The aura ring.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. It's too hot. Too much, Too much.

[B Dot]

Let me not. Let me not party. Let me not.

[Joe Button]

Lil Nas X likes girls.

[B Dot]

We said this years ago.

[Joe Button]

Lil Nas X said that. He likes girls now.

[Big Parks]

Right now. So it's over for boys.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Let me see what P. We was

[B Dot]

back at your crib when me and Joe both was like, yo, come on, Y.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All together. Joe crib talk about who Lil Nas X Nikes.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

That's what we do on weekends.

[B Dot]

That's how we spend. Mark.

[Joe Button]

We trying to make everything weird. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Facts anyway. Go, little N. X. You had no idea what You've been missing out on.

[B Dot]

You probably been what?

[Joe Button]

They all right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Girls.

[Joe Button]

Girls is cool.

[B Dot]

You beautiful.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me look up what he said. Did he give a reason?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he got some. He said, I went and got around the. And you know what?

[B Dot]

That snapper got to him.

[Big Parks]

I was here giving the devil a lap dance. I could have been getting some this whole time.

[Flip]

Freaky ass. That was doing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you do the same thing, you get the same results, man, you got to try something different. The boys had him on the highway. Butt ass in a diaper in his. In his booty draw. Damn. That was talking to the cop like that cop was.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all remember that? I do

[Flip]

that up.

[Joe Button]

That was trying to bag the cop like, yo, dog, you can't do this. Get you some, man.

[B Dot]

He did, you know. Changed your life.

[Joe Button]

Pussy have you too, doing that shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

About the same. There's been a lot of places for some.

[Big Parks]

But you probably have pants on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You might have pants on.

[Big Parks]

Maybe.

[Joe Button]

Or at least.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, maybe. Then Lance Un Rivera has been in the news.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, y'. All. I'm learning to ignore y'. All. Lance is in the news. Because Lance is in the news.

[Big Parks]

Lance is in the news.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It all goes back to Dame Dad.

[Big Parks]

Shut the lids.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It all comes back.

[Big Parks]

No, it goes back to Ho. It goes back to Hov. First, he was responsible. The big thing he was in the news for was his open letter to Hov regarding the bar in the Phillies picnic.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fair.

[Big Parks]

Roots picnic.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they asked him what he thought about it.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. And it was a dope open letter. I liked it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The open letter. It felt like it sounded like somebody. The whole. And I watched the whole interview. It sounded like somebody who was. Who wanted to say something but was scared to say something.

[Big Parks]

I didn't get that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I mean, I don't think he

[Big Parks]

was wrong in what he was saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think he was 100% right.

[Big Parks]

Okay. Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm saying is he gave the letter, which is basically kissing Hope's ass for three minutes.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And then after he started saying, like, it's fucked up to mention me in the. On the raps and all, but. But he didn't say it direct. That's what I'm saying. It sounded like he was, like. He was very gentle and delicate, you know, if you wanna use me as part of your promo, maybe pay me, you know?

[Joe Button]

It was.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

For somebody who seems pissed about it. He was very delicate with his words. And I. I didn't think he was

[Big Parks]

that pissed about it.

[Flip]

Yeah. Do we know if he's pissed about it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He seemed irritated. Maybe Mr. Wrong. He seemed irritated about it.

[B Dot]

The stabbed me before. Before he was up a couple beats. I might not want to piss this off.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just don't do the interview. I definitely right.

[B Dot]

If you talk a little nice about this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's why I wouldn't say nothing.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Flip]

All the dialogue, right?

[Joe Button]

This is a 8 minute clip. Shout out to all the dialogue, body and yo. Word. I'm skipping this heartfelt open letter that he wrote to Jay Z because it's too. It's Jay Z because it's too positive for me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not writing a three page letter. Smoke me.

[Joe Button]

Fair. No, Everything he said in the letter was, Jay Z, you're the man. You've helped so much who you are. Like he said a lot of good. N. Let's go to the end. Let's see.

[B Dot]

I'm normal.

[Joe Button]

That is, he's still reading. I think that, you know, what people need to understand is that most of Jay Z's intentions is purely based on marketing.

[B Dot]

You know, I was part of the

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

rollout for, you know, the products that's

[Joe Button]

going out right now in the streets.

[B Dot]

So, you know, I fell victim to that. You know, I'm used over and over

[Joe Button]

again in that capacity.

[B Dot]

You know, like I said, you know, from the beginning, it's always been about marketing.

[Joe Button]

You know, it's just that I continue to be the butt of the joke, you know, so, you know, he talks

[B Dot]

about trauma, but what about, you know, my trauma? What about people who lived in trauma?

[Joe Button]

You know, that he keeps bringing it back up and back up.

[Big Parks]

I would sound like a, you know,

[B Dot]

I understand marketing and promotions.

[Joe Button]

You think it sounds like a yes,

[Big Parks]

I don't think so either.

[Joe Button]

To your brand.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mouthed that so it wouldn't be sit on air. But I'm fine with it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, you're dangerous and, you know, you threaten to hurt people, using me as an example of how dangerous you are, you know, just to sell products.

[B Dot]

Then, you know, that's, that's, you know, up to him. You know, I'm not against him making money, you know, but like I said, you know, he, he talks about trauma.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Joe Button]

We got the point.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Like I said, to me, it sounds like somebody.

[B Dot]

I mean, I don't think he's doing this, but this just sounds like somebody who's wording lawsuit, like trying to. You know what I mean?

[Big Parks]

I didn't get that vibe for. Sounded really mature and healed honestly. And I think that he sounded like he was asking Jay Z To be more healed when regarding me the person that was a victim of your alleged. Alleged assault. I'm not.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Big Parks]

I'm not mad at that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Maybe I'll just never be that healed.

[Joe Button]

Killed. Okay. There's a new. A new take. Say more.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just. I think you got a couple options in this situation. Once somebody stabs you and then 20 years later still making songs about stabbing one is to just be above it all. Not comment. Which is what I would probably do if I'm him.

[Big Parks]

Uh huh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it just comes across. Maybe this is some.

[Joe Button]

It's some you shit. Who you are for crimes done against men and crimes done against women is like two different marks.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, not at all.

[Joe Button]

You don't give a. You don't give a.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying. I'm saying talk your back.

[Joe Button]

Why? That's not how I am.

[Flip]

You don't want to do it.

[Joe Button]

And. But, and that's. But there are other options there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why.

[Joe Button]

Why do you ignore the other options?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

There are other options. You could be mature and write him a three page letter about how much you admire.

[Joe Button]

Now that's a little. I'm not with the letter. But everything he said afterward, it still sounded like it's coming from a mature place.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Here's the thing for me.

[Joe Button]

And he even ended with yo, yo, cut me a check. He ended with hey, you want to use me? And hey, I'll be. I'm down to be part of the marketing.

[B Dot]

Come me a check if you're not part of marketing.

[Joe Button]

He is part of the marketing you heard about. He technically is part of the marketing.

[B Dot]

You're a bar in a freestyle. I'm not marketing it around you. I'm not. You're not a part of the marketing though.

[Joe Button]

The freestyle.

[B Dot]

The freestyle itself is one thing. You are a bar in the freestyle.

[Joe Button]

So I am a part of it.

[B Dot]

This is not a part of them.

[Big Parks]

It's some old school. I like that.

[Joe Button]

I'm a part of it.

[Big Parks]

He's not suing. Not nothing. Yo, just bring me off a little something if you're going to keep putting my name. And what about my trauma?

[Joe Button]

Like why is that not valid? I don't understand.

[B Dot]

I don't see that as part of. I'm not using you as marketing. Like if I'm running around here, I don't know if I'm screaming, you know everything. I did this. So I'm selling dimes like.

[Joe Button]

Like I'm saying everything about Jay Z's rollout has been a masterclass in adult marketing. From GQ to the freestyle to the Yankee shit to all the shows announced to even the Hair, the secret, sacred, whatever, every, all of it but it since the Frazier and it's all been market marketing. Yes, if you say my name one time in the middle of that span, I am a part of your marketing.

[Big Parks]

And kindly asking you to break me off a little something.

[Joe Button]

I don't. I may not be an important part

[B Dot]

and yes, that's what I'm saying. It's not around you.

[Joe Button]

It could have happened without me. Of course it's not that's around me. But you know the power of your voice. You said it. I came in here the next day and said all these years later, like at what point, what point do we stop? He did say, like when is enough enough? And if I feel like that, I certainly expect for under feel like that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But Joe, that's what you just said. That's what I want him to say.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I thought he did. Yeah, I got that from him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said it. But again, like I said from the top. I just wanted to say it more direct.

[Flip]

He wasn't direct or aggressive.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was more like. I mean, like you might not want to do this anymore because the, you

[Big Parks]

know, that's just how we talk.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not making fun of his voice. I'm saying. I'm saying the wishy washiness of it.

[Joe Button]

And he's well aware who he's speaking about. He's got a ton of respect and reverence for the guy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And it's hard for me to have

[Joe Button]

reverence for somebody who stabbed you and

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

keeps rapping about it.

[Flip]

Cause you can fucking get some money. So he might have stabbed you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, but I was just a punchline at the Roost picnic.

[Flip]

I see what you mean.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe he's more. Again, he might be more mature and developed than me. I'm saying I would have difficulty.

[B Dot]

He understands I can't do. But so much so you can just not say anything.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm saying is if I still

[B Dot]

wanna say something cause it's bothering me, it's his choice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not saying he did anything wrong. I'm just saying it's a choice I wouldn't make. And I don't like the way it makes him look.

[B Dot]

I don't like the choice for him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If I were his life coach or his manager or his PR team, I would say don't do it this way. He's got every right to do it.

[Joe Button]

And I think that's so unfair. Cause he was somewhere minding his fucking business when someone made me look away.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right?

[Joe Button]

So to say that him saying something is making him look away again.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not him saying something something. It's what he said. It's the three page. First of all, if he just didn't do the three page letter, I probably wouldn't have said shit. When I looked at the.

[Joe Button]

That letter was nasty.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was driving back and I was. I saw the headline. It was like, unresponse or claps back to hov. And then it was like, dear hov, you are the greatest. And it was three minutes of that.

[Joe Button]

But we can't blame him for headline culture. We know what headline culture is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying. But I'm not blaming him for the headline. And I think it's a great headline. I would make the same headline.

[Joe Button]

See, that's a shame.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm saying, I'm saying in my mind, I was like, okay, this is. I want to hear what he's gonna say. And it was just such a stark contrast from what I thought he was gonna say to what he did say. I would never start that letter off that way. He's diplomatic, he's mature, cool or what.

[B Dot]

If you know the power of who you talking to. So.

[Flip]

But let me not let you busy.

[Joe Button]

Hey, hey, hold up for a second. Hold up for a second. Cause we are talking about people with 30 and 35 years in the music business that have accomplished a whole lot of shit.

[Big Parks]

Words.

[Joe Button]

So this is not his first time appearing to be this professional and appearing to be this type of businessman. Yeah, we ain't really heard a whole bunch about. He handles himself.

[B Dot]

Yeah, yeah. We ain't heard old school.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Himself a certain way. So, I mean, I'm not gonna just pretend like I feel like that's almost disrespectful to him. And he gets a stake sometimes from where I get a steak from. I'm not gonna do that to him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like, he is who he is still. We talking about hov, but. But UN is who he is.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think he would.

[Joe Button]

I don't think his voice is this because we talking about Jay Z. I think that he just has.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's just how he move.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's what I think.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

If it's not hov, does he still write the three page letter?

[Joe Button]

No, I'm not vouching for the three page letter.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz I will say that's probably.

[B Dot]

See, I'm saying that's why you start with the three page letter? Because it's hov.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, let me know.

[B Dot]

I'm not even coming to you on that type of time. So I'm going start lead with love, as some people say. Like I'm gonna start here and then let you know how I feel.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. I think how he felt got lost in all of that.

[Big Parks]

And I don't think none of this story is a story without hov. Not for nothing, if there was any other. I'm not gonna say nobody's name. Cause I don't wanna be disrespectful. But you put anybody else's name in that position and rewrite history. It's not the same situation at all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

True. If you. Again, I don't go in circles, address it. I just didn't like it wasn't my cup of tea for how. For how he did it. But there was another part of that interview. Interview they asked him about, which was about the Charlie Baltimore stuff.

[Big Parks]

I don't like the Charlie Baltimore.

[Joe Button]

That one I heard.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And. And that's why I would say it goes back.

[B Dot]

That was the other.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That was the Dave Dash part. I was saying Damon had done interviews and he was basically talking about why. The real reasons why Jay Z had beef. And they said it was over Charlie Baltimore. And he went through this whole bit. I don't want to rehash all the gossip of it. I think my.

[Big Parks]

All it was was got a bunch of gossip.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that was the moment where I thought un handled it really well. You know, he basically.

[Big Parks]

He was asked if they were ever intimate. And he's like, listen, we're in the studio, there's emotions high. Something to this effect.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said she was an artist signed to me.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And were we intimate? Yes. While we were writing songs, did it ever get. Did we ever cross lines emotionally? Sometimes he made it all about the music, basically. He was basically saying we just made good music.

[Big Parks]

That's some old school professional shit.

[B Dot]

Old school professional shit. He's not even the first person to. Again, when Cam and HOV had they thing and Cam said that in the verse, when he was dissing Hov. He.

[Joe Button]

He.

[B Dot]

He said it and he said a little bit more after that. But this is like. I don't even. I don't even like the. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. Dragging her into this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She was minding her own business.

[Flip]

I mean. And she responded too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Flip]

And she did. Well, I watched it and I like her.

[Joe Button]

What was the Response.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She said she basically denied it. She said, I don't know why Dame is doing this. I don't know if he's joking, if it's a bit.

[Flip]

She didn't deny it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, she didn't.

[Flip]

She just didn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She didn't affirm it. She admitted, yeah, that's better.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah. She didn't deny it, but basically she was saying, I looked at Dame every time I've been around Dame Dash, he's been a CEO, he's been a go getter. He's been doing bullshit. Me seeing this side of him is very shocking to me. I never saw that side of him, and I don't want to be a casualty of war. She said, if I said I did it, they're going to say something. She said, if I said I didn't, they going to say I'm lying. She said, this man, Jay Z is a. A married man. Why are we 26 years later talking about what happened? This man is a married man. He got a lot going on. He has children. I don't want to be a part of that. This is not something that I want to encourage or engage with.

[Joe Button]

Oh, go Charlie that shit. First of all, Charlie, if you're listening, I love you or I miss you.

[Flip]

She's amazing.

[Joe Button]

Wow. Because I didn't hear any of this. Y' all lucky to get even that from Charlie Balto. I'll tell you that one. She is one of. She is one of. You know, she's one of the four mothers. Yeah, she's one of the four mothers of Keeping it P. For lack of better term.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, sir. The Philly.

[B Dot]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Stop. It's stop. Because you. Amber, stop, stop.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop backing down.

[Joe Button]

That's what I'm saying about him. Real fact. Now you want to claim Charlie Baltimore saying that we got a few other people to answer for from. From Philly. But go charge. Yes, Go charge. Amazing.

[B Dot]

Yeah, that's. That's.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how she killed it.

[Joe Button]

That's how it supposed to go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She did. I respected her more than everybody in this.

[Flip]

Yeah, that. That's just. Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Can we just stop this shit now? Like, please? I just. No more. And again, I'm part of the problems.

[Joe Button]

Charlie never even wrote a book right.

[Flip]

She did.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Shit.

[Big Parks]

Nah. She been chilling.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She been buying her own business.

[B Dot]

She be chilling.

[Joe Button]

Charlie's great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All these dudes, man. Just telling everybody business.

[Flip]

I mean, what do you.

[Joe Button]

Yo, one day, and maybe it won't happen no time soon. Cause all these bitch ass niggas with microphones gossiping on podcasts. But it be the dudes.

[Flip]

Content World. I'm sorry, y'. All.

[Joe Button]

It's the dudes.

[Big Parks]

No, but even before Content World, it's been the dudes.

[Joe Button]

Always the dudes.

[Flip]

I got you. But a lot of people these days, they subscribe to content.

[Joe Button]

Always it's the dudes.

[B Dot]

For the most part, it's been the dudes.

[Joe Button]

What's the. It be the fucking dudes. Just dudes.

[Flip]

Let me ask you a question. What they ask, what did y' all expect Dame to do? Right?

[Joe Button]

I'm never talking about Dame Dash again in life.

[B Dot]

I told you where I started.

[Joe Button]

I'm not Dame Dash.

[B Dot]

Yep.

[Joe Button]

I. I'm done.

[Flip]

I didn't know that something happened.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm just done. He's on the list. He's on my list.

[Big Parks]

It's a lot. It's a lot.

[Joe Button]

I. I have. I have a list of people that I'm just not going to talk about.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And Dame Dash has unfortunately made his way to that list. I've said that a million times up here. I got too much respect for Dame. So that's all I'mma say.

[Flip]

I got you. Say no more.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's real. And I don't want to feed the beast anymore.

[B Dot]

I understand your question, though.

[Flip]

I feel like this man, N made fun of his financial ups and downs. Niggas made fun of him. And one person has outweighed another. And then when he gets there to explain himself, niggas is making fun of him. So why not just lean into the content and do what you gotta do and to make your way to him?

[B Dot]

I think people's not.

[Flip]

I'm telling you, listen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause niggas, when N was poking fun

[Flip]

at him and saying nigga was washed up, nobody, Nobody reached a hand out to help that nigga. No one's doing that. His fucking business did that. They put all his business online. They say he lost this, he lost his stake here. He lost his business. Look at how bad he is. They bring up the fucking shit that he did. What's that Rockefeller documentary he did when he was yelling at somebody, they bring up all that, yo, this is the reason why he lost all of this or him. They speculate. Now when a nigga talk about it and he leans into content and he becomes part of the content, it's a problem. Yes, I do see what a lot of people are saying. I do understand when you look at somebody in a certain light and now they're going a route that seems mudsling ish. Sometimes Your back is against the wall, and you have to just lean into it and become the mud.

[Joe Button]

He invented the word Chatty Patty.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my point.

[B Dot]

But when you lean into it and become the mud, you also have to be aware that people are gonna look at you that way now. And as long as you cool with that, you cool with that. Like, Dane might be perfectly fine with the way people look at him, but people are gonna look at you. Like you said, he came up with Chatty Brown. So there are people that's gonna say, nah, not you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my issue.

[B Dot]

Not you becoming that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You gotta write this again. Defend yourself, explain yourself. It's your stories. You can tell your stories. But to me, there's rules to this that we all kind of abide by, even up here. This shit we talk about, shit, we never talk about facts. And Dame didn't just live by those rules. He kind of made them in public. He was the one, like you said, saying, don't be chatty patties. Men shouldn't be up here talking about. Men shouldn't be talking about other people's minds. Money shouldn't be. I mean, he made literally a list of shit you shouldn't be doing, how fucked up it was to do. And he seems to be doing every single one of those things. So, again, I admire Dame. I've respected Dame for a long time.

[Joe Button]

He in a video with a little white artist dissing Rockefeller, dissing Jay Z or some shit with a little white girl. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Come on. Please don't get me started on Dan. Cause I got you, Joe. Yeah, I'm gonna tell the truth about him, and I don't want to. I got too much respect for him.

[Flip]

But whisper the truth to me.

[Joe Button]

But some of this shit is just a little. It's too goofy now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And he's too fly. I mean, when I saw that single that came out a couple weeks ago. Y' all heard it.

[Big Parks]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he's too dope and too.

[Flip]

And listen.

[Joe Button]

And I'm all. I'm with beefing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with your breath Stink crew with the white girl. That's my man, Al. I don't know what the.

[Flip]

That was doing. He was in a trail. I said, oh, what the they doing? I didn't understand that. That's. I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I laughed. I laughed.

[Flip]

I like. What are you doing? That's funny to me. I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Flip]

You guys are looking at. From such a.

[Joe Button]

No, we looking at it from the lens of.

[Flip]

I Get what you're saying. You're not wrong, but I'm just taking it as your damage.

[Joe Button]

The guy that barked on Kevin LS about them jackets in the clip that. That we all saw. It ain't supposed to end like this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what it is.

[Joe Button]

And if it ends like that, that then people are going to retroactively go back to every single thing you said and did.

[B Dot]

How did we get here?

[Joe Button]

Like, what are you. What's the shit? My breath stink. Your breath stink? I smell something. What is that stupid shit.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop. Y'.

[Big Parks]

All.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The breath stink.

[Flip]

Let me ask you a question. Not about Damon. Let me ask you a question.

[Big Parks]

Thanks for the plug.

[Flip]

There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people that get. Hold on, Mark. There's a lot of people that get ignored in society, right?

[Joe Button]

And they get ignored.

[Flip]

And it is not until they do something outrageous or contrary content where people start to pay attention. What was that basketball player again?

[Joe Button]

That.

[Flip]

He was a. He was. He was a draft pick, like out of high school. But Kwame Brown, nobody gave a about him until he started doing that. And then he became popular. He was able to make money or whatever the he was doing, whether it was through YouTube or what. These things happen.

[Joe Button]

No, he got re popular. Yeah, he got re.

[Flip]

That's what I mean. He got re popular. But these are the things that happen because this is how society is built. This is what this is made of, the Internet, how you can make money and how you. Well, when you go down a certain lane, if the positive lane isn't working, when you're going down a certain lane, you get the attention you want, you get the money you want, and it's just how you capitalize on it.

[B Dot]

I don't think you're saying nothing wrong. It's just the problem is. Again, back to the specific person. All the things he told us a man is not supposed to do. Yes, you're doing them. That's where people are looking at.

[Flip]

Maybe because that they were doing beginning,

[Joe Button]

but it's even deeper than that. Right? Like, I'm all for friends beefing. Friends could beef. I feel like that's a part of friendship. If my two friends beef, I'm certainly going to watch how they beef. Because certain parts of it is off limits.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all could fight.

[Joe Button]

It could even be a rough fight, some parts of that. If it get too far, I'm taking notice. Y' all could go back and be friends again.

[B Dot]

But I'm look at you.

[Joe Button]

But I'm looking at it a little shaky.

[B Dot]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

And that's part of. Part of what it is with him.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He's past the boundary. And now I'm sitting here talking about. I'm done talking about this nigga.

[Flip]

Okay?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not talking about him. It hurts though. As a nigga that was in Dame crib trying to make joints fucking think tanking. There's somebody that watched him. I was in that building to watch it be where it is now. That's not the way you want the story to end.

[Flip]

Why do you think people don't reach out and help niggas like that?

[Joe Button]

I don't give a

[Flip]

fuck, Jay. I'm not talking about not fucking J. Paul. Me.

[Joe Button]

Forget him.

[Flip]

Not talking about him. Just in general. You touch so many people's lives. If. If you had to come up with a conclusion as being in the industry, why won't a person say, yo, hey, outside looking in?

[B Dot]

I would say that bridges have been

[Big Parks]

burnt or also for whatever reason.

[B Dot]

I don't know why.

[Joe Button]

I would say he's a liability.

[Big Parks]

I would also say that who. How do we know that people haven't

[B Dot]

reached and something may have happened

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

off the record.

[Flip]

Really?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. And some people have just helped and it's worked out and they, you know, and other people tried to help and they didn't get the response they wanted. Cuz they said the lack of humility, you know what I mean? I don't know what's true and what's not, but I. I know for a fact that there's been help offered.

[Flip]

Got it.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean?

[Big Parks]

Prayers up to everybody involved.

[Joe Button]

T's and peas, thoughts and prayers. Peace and love, yo. I hope everybody fend for yourselves. It's a cold world. Grab a water and a flashlight. It gets dark out there.

[Flip]

Easy for you to say.

[Joe Button]

Why you.

[Flip]

Because you fought through it. I would expect you at all.

[Joe Button]

So then it's not easy to say no.

[Flip]

A person, a person that fought through it, it would be easy.

[Big Parks]

That's the person to say.

[Flip]

Why would it be harder to say? Cause you fought through it. Unless I'm saying something wrong, I'm saying

[B Dot]

you made it out okay. On the other side. You're good now. So it's easy for you to say

[Big Parks]

it now, but that's a result of

[B Dot]

putting me as a person. No, no, no. I'm just saying what flipping says, E. Easy for you to say because you've already made it through it and you're up right Whereas somebody who still is trying to get to that point, it's harder for them to. To hear that if I'm not correct.

[Flip]

Yeah, you're correct.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, Got it. I don't want to respond.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So little ass likes the party's Lil

[Joe Button]

Nas X likes, most importantly, grab it up for him.

[Big Parks]

That is good.

[Joe Button]

That's all right. Good.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever. He. I got some medium news for y'. All. I know a lot of you been asking. I know you pay attention to electoral politics a lot, so I know you've been wondering.

[B Dot]

Joe, you answer my question.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think I got the answer to you.

[Flip]

Thank you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not the answer you want, though.

[B Dot]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So people have been wondering if Mitch McConnell. Yes, the senator is dead.

[B Dot]

Oh, I was about to call Mark. Mark, I know. You know, what the fuck?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause for those who don't know, he's been in the hospital since I think like June maybe 16th, somewhere around there, and no one's heard of peep from him. Mitch McConnell, by the way, is one of the most. He's a piece of shit.

[B Dot]

There you go. I was gonna see.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And I didn't wait for him to die, just to be clear. So when he does die, knock on wood, I will still be able to say it with some, you know, consistency. I've been saying it for decades. He's a terrible person in every way imaginable. But he's been in the hospital for a couple months now, or a month. A month now. And no one's heard from him. People are starting to think he might be dead. There have been some reports from the hospital that he's brain dead and that no one's telling anybody. And this is something y' all need to pay attention to.

[Big Parks]

First of all.

[B Dot]

Tinfoil, Tom.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's definitely tinfoil. Yep. You know what I mean? Because Republicans will let somebody be dead and not tell nobody they did. Because what they don't wanna do is have a special election while they're down. Because if there's a special election right now in Kentucky, the Democrats could take that seat. Seat, and it'll be part of a takeover of the Senate. So they'll do a weekend at Bernie's at least for a couple of months until November. At least till November to make sure shit is Gucci. So just pay attention to this. I've made some personal phone calls to his people. I made personal phone calls to people in that neck of the woods. And the word is that he's not dead.

[Big Parks]

But maybe not doing great.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But time's a ticking, so we'll find out soon. But he's not dead yet. I don't believe he's dead.

[Joe Button]

Okay, like, when that report came out about Clive, like a week before he died and Clive is in the hospital, I was like, oh, all right, all right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

In what section was he in the freezer section.

[Joe Button]

For real. The hospital freak at 93. Whatever. That's funny. Hypothermia.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That stupid.

[Big Parks]

Oh,

[Joe Button]

all right, so Mitch is. Mitch is alive, but all right. Clock is ticking.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Clock is ticking.

[Joe Button]

Clock is ticking.

[B Dot]

Okay, and then when we'll find out, we'll be.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, now that's the question that. Yeah, we might find out at Thanksgiving. Living right. People be dead for a long ass time these days. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

He wasn't looking the liveliest. No.

[Flip]

The last time we saw.

[B Dot]

Last time we saw. Ain't that when he short circuited or something?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Freestyling.

[Joe Button]

Oh. Oh, all right,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

it's coming back.

[Joe Button]

There we go. It's coming back to me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He like, on himself one time press conference.

[Big Parks]

Then he like, good way or bad way?

[B Dot]

You know what?

[Joe Button]

Nope. Yeah, Yeah. I don't know how tinfoil this is, but, yeah, Watch your local news.

[B Dot]

Yeah, no, that's where the Tempo will come in, but they won't tell us.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, is this.

[B Dot]

I saw this episode of Scandal, by the way.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Boom.

[B Dot]

Exact same one, but.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah.

[Big Parks]

Anybody watch Luisa K special on Netflix yet?

[Joe Button]

Yep.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't even know. It's out.

[Big Parks]

Devastatingly horrible.

[B Dot]

Really?

[Flip]

What?

[Big Parks]

Devast. I don't know if I've ever been this disappointed in a piece of media in my entire life.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Really?

[Big Parks]

I almost cut that shit off, but I was like, it's Louie. I got it. I gotta keep.

[B Dot]

So you saw it through it. It was hard and it didn't get better.

[Big Parks]

I think the last 10 minutes I was probably like, all right, I'm going to bed. This enough?

[B Dot]

Oh, that hurt.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow.

[Big Parks]

That hurt.

[B Dot]

That hurt.

[Joe Button]

I wasn't even gonna.

[B Dot]

You watch the whole. Yeah. You agree?

[Big Parks]

It's one of the worst things I've ever seen.

[Joe Button]

It's really, really.

[Big Parks]

He was like. I was some, like, bad Eminem jokes.

[Joe Button]

That's what the majority of it was.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Like, oh, then my dad, me in the ass. Like, it's like, all right for an hour of that. Yes. No. Not saying nothing better than that. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

No point. No poignant loophole at the end that

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

brings it all together.

[Joe Button]

None of that nothing.

[Big Parks]

Just really bad.

[Joe Button]

Pedophile Joe.

[Big Parks]

My dad might have me. Or did or didn't. And My mom has bad joes.

[Joe Button]

I mean, he. He opened with.

[B Dot]

I have.

[Joe Button]

I have a. Aids. He opened with. I went to take an AIDS test because I just wanted some good news.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

It's kind of funny.

[B Dot]

All right.

[Joe Button]

As it turns out, I have hiv. And as it turns out, you can get it from rats. Yes, I.

[Big Parks]

A rat that was. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I got hiv.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And quickly.

[Joe Button]

And the rat doesn't have to be gay.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, gay.

[Joe Button]

Right. But this one was. It's like. That was the opening.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, it was bad.

[B Dot]

Damn, he lost me already.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wanted some good.

[Joe Button]

Worse.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Funny. And then it just.

[Big Parks]

It got worse. It gets worse and worse.

[Joe Button]

There's a funny joke in there somewhere.

[Big Parks]

I missed it. I sat there like this the whole time.

[B Dot]

Really?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn. He's one of my favorites.

[Big Parks]

Mine, too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he was one of them.

[Big Parks]

Same.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

He didn't even look the greatest.

[Big Parks]

No, he didn't look great.

[Joe Button]

He didn't look. I'm not going to say.

[B Dot]

You can't tell Mark that kind of sh.

[Joe Button]

He didn't. He didn't look the greatest. That backdrop didn't look the greatest. This was just like. If you a Louis CK Fan. This was not it at all.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And for this to be like, my girl was judging me. Like, what are you. Why are we. Yo, is this what you landed on then? Is that part right? I having to agree about everything that's on the look, Ma.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

I'm a fan of this white guy. I want to see what's going on with him.

[Big Parks]

Right. And it's no good. That's the worst. When you try to put on something for your girl, like, nah, he's dope, he's dope, he's dope. And then it's not.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah. It was really ridiculous.

[Big Parks]

The girl's like, this is what you think is funny?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe, you put a TV in the bathroom yet?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Parks]

The toilet has a building.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen to me.

[Joe Button]

Small.

[Flip]

Just this one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Just 14 inch in the bathroom. It'll change everything for you. Make it your little home base. You could do everything you wanted. You could watch the porn. You could chill. You can read, you can watch content.

[Flip]

Yeah, bro. You good, bro?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm great. I don't watch. I don't. I don't have a TV in my bathroom, but.

[Flip]

And you look like you've been getting some rest.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Some rest.

[Flip]

You look good, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Actually, last night was the first night I got. I was in a hotel the last couple nights, and I didn't get a lot of rest because my son woke up early but last night, I got about 14 hours.

[Flip]

Oh, when you were home?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I was home, yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah, once your wife was home?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, she came home later. When she got home, you woke up about 1:00am no. Well, when I woke up, she was home.

[Flip]

1:00am hey, hold up. Hey.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She was working. She finishing a book. She's on the D. I got to

[Flip]

talk to Ms. Hill, yo, I respect her too much. Even play around, yo.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, she's good. She's allowed to work. You don't think she. I believe in flip you.

[Flip]

1am Let Linky come home 1am I be like this by the door.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She didn't come. She didn't come on 1am I woke up at 1am and saw she was home. I think she got in like, 11:30. I think she got in like, 11:30. I think she got in like 11:30.

[Flip]

Aaliyah, you love. Yo, Mark.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She was in the office working. Mark, you asleep?

[Flip]

Nigga.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What? I trust my wife.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Flip]

Me too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And her personal trainer.

[Joe Button]

You trust your wife? You too. Don't touch me, please.

[Flip]

But you told my wife.

[Joe Button]

Here's my only hypothetical question. In the event. Here you go. That there was infidelity happening. Y' all wives did that? Not did and is doing active. Like, actively.

[Big Parks]

Oh, two. Two could play that game.

[Joe Button]

Well, before we get there. My question. My question is. Damn, you good.

[Flip]

Good

[Joe Button]

passion, too. I mean, I wasn't finished, J.

[Flip]

Ask the question, gang.

[Joe Button]

Hey, no. You got a little punch in his floral shorts too. I didn't want to say that. Oh, I didn't want to say that. Just the thought of it. Oh, shit, that's flaccid.

[B Dot]

Just the sound of his voice is a hit.

[Flip]

Is crazy.

[Joe Button]

My question to you, Mark, is how long before you think you would be hip?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got good instincts. I think I'd be hip pretty fast.

[Joe Button]

Pretty fast is less than a month.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Really?

[Big Parks]

Oh, you're saying, like, it's an affair?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. You talk about an affair or she just somebody one night?

[B Dot]

An affair?

[Joe Button]

No. Yeah. I guess we have to be an affair.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think I would know. I think I would know.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Affair. You can't. I think that's easy.

[Flip]

You can tell when you live with somebody.

[Joe Button]

Y' all think an affair is easy to spot?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I think yes. Here's why. When you live with somebody. When you live with somebody and you in a relationship, like, both those things together, this is not. I know. You see? It's not people. Patterns are so predictive.

[B Dot]

Patterns change. That's the one and they start doing little shit different.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That dress they never wore before.

[Flip]

Hold on, I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle.

[Big Parks]

No, I think the one off would be harder.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

A one off, I couldn't tell.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'm going tell you why I'm in the middle. Because sometimes you've been both sides of this. No, I'm not on both sides, you jerk.

[Joe Button]

Get your wife home from north.

[Flip]

Where the she at?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Leave her at the door.

[Flip]

You saying that now, but you don't listen.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I love my wife. I know you do. Y' all joking.

[Flip]

Here's the thing. I'm in the middle because yes, patterns change. But if the person is aware that you're watching their patterns, they can do something to throw you off the street.

[B Dot]

They just gotta work a little harder.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you know what it is.

[Big Parks]

But it's too late by then.

[B Dot]

Exactly.

[Big Parks]

If they're hitting, you're hit.

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[B Dot]

You saw it.

[Flip]

Not if a mistake happened. You forgave the them. They're not going to make the same mistake twice.

[B Dot]

That's. I don't think that's what he said.

[Big Parks]

That's all I'm saying.

[B Dot]

Once the patterns start to change and you observe it, you're already on to them. Now, they clean up.

[Flip]

Pay attention to what I'm saying. You caught on to the patterns.

[B Dot]

You got them.

[Flip]

Yeah, you got past it. Now if you don't change your ways and you still doing the same thing which makes them go outside, they're not going to follow the same pattern that you caught on to.

[B Dot]

But you can still, you'll still see the differences. Okay, it might be a different difference. Yeah, but you'll still see differences. One time, like Mark said, it might be the dress. Hey, you want that dress?

[Joe Button]

And y' all think y' all would be able to spot this change of pattern in less than a month?

[Big Parks]

Oh, I think in less than a few days.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. To a full out affair. I mean affair.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Not a oneoff You.

[Flip]

I get what they saying. It's some funny.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And also smiling a little bit too much.

[B Dot]

You smiling at your phone too much. It start there, it be little in the morning.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What I can see that.

[Joe Button]

I think you is nuts.

[Flip]

Just cuz you ain't bro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

How long you think it would take you to find out to realize it?

[B Dot]

And this is not looking for it, mind you. Mind you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

This is not actively looking for again,

[Joe Button]

it would take me a while.

[B Dot]

I don't think so.

[Flip]

Really.

[Big Parks]

I don't think it would either.

[B Dot]

I don't think so because now with y' all living together, you start to. You start to notice their patterns.

[Joe Button]

You start to notice their regulations. Y' all keep saying that, and I don't want to turn this into that.

[B Dot]

Yeah,

[Joe Button]

there are women that are great at cheating.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Of course, there are some women where you won't be able to detect the change in pattern in less than a month.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Joe Button]

I'm not speaking to any of our partners.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm just saying. And it ain't just, oh, there's a pattern and the pattern change. And I would spot it, because when you live with somebody, you know, there's people out there that are good at this. There's people out there that live with their partner for 8, 9, 10 years and feel like they had the rug pulled from under them. Or somebody came to me woman to woman or man to man, or. You learned that the last eight years when you've been dropping the baby off at the sitter, the nigga lives around the corner.

[B Dot]

But you know what also hold up? You know what also happens in those. That same person looks back and say, oh, shit, I saw certain shit. I just ignored it.

[Big Parks]

I ignored it.

[Joe Button]

But that makes the answer to my question. But you still.

[B Dot]

But we saying, Rex, just seeing the change. Seeing the change and attributing it to something is two totally different things. So some people will see the change

[Joe Button]

and let it go. My question wasn't, how long do it take you to notice a pattern change in your partner?

[B Dot]

And then at the.

[Joe Button]

My question was, how long would it take you to know that this is what's happening?

[B Dot]

It's quick for me. It'd be very difficult to speak very well.

[Big Parks]

Now, again, one off. You know, that could happen.

[Flip]

It'll be quick.

[Joe Button]

What else needs our attention? Minor or major? Let's see here. Nah, nah, I'm done with Marcel's Wally. Not right now. Oh, shit. You were talking about. What is the TV show. You were talking. Oh, Louis ck.

[Big Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

You were talking about Louis ck. Yeah. Let me tell y' all something out there. And I know we don't normally do this. This here, but I got to do it after that episode I saw the other night.

[Big Parks]

What you got?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You watch Love Corbin.

[B Dot]

Yo, get the out of here.

[Joe Button]

Yo, honestly, no, no, listen. What Corbin is doing on tv, he already got his jersey in the.

[Flip]

He is.

[Joe Button]

He is a Love Love Island's got five seasons, Corbin.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Eight.

[Joe Button]

Yes. Is eight.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

This is season eight of us. You can, brother.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm not, though. UK Said five seasons.

[B Dot]

No, I promise.

[Joe Button]

You did. I can bet.

[Flip]

Is he trolling or he watched it.

[B Dot]

He ain't watching. He might have seen talk about it. He ain't watch it up.

[Big Parks]

Justin Corbin's a legend, man.

[B Dot]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

Am I lying? Is he a legend?

[Big Parks]

I'm pissed. They got him out of here, man.

[Joe Button]

He's gone.

[B Dot]

He's gone.

[Flip]

Proper review.

[Big Parks]

That was some.

[B Dot]

That was absolute. Now. Now you want to make challenges grant you immunity a week. What? Five episodes left. I know.

[Big Parks]

Kenzie should have been been off this show. She's horrible.

[Joe Button]

How the is she still there?

[Big Parks]

That's what I'm saying.

[Flip]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Serious stupid. Every week when I think she's gone.

[Big Parks]

Who you got with Trinity?

[B Dot]

No, this is Trinity and Bryce's, I think.

[Big Parks]

I think Melanie and Sincere are gonna make a run for it in this last week.

[B Dot]

Trinity and Bryce's show, bro.

[Big Parks]

I agree.

[B Dot]

It's over. It's been over.

[Big Parks]

I can't believe Zach and K got voted so poorly.

[B Dot]

I can. They're not compatible.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

When y' all watch this, do your cycles align?

[Big Parks]

Me and isis.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Big Parks]

We're locked in.

[Joe Button]

What a bunch of. Actually, you know what? The other night, I'm like, all right, my girl is here. Okay, let me turn on Love island and see what it. So we go to Love island and I w. When you go to it, it automatically starts playing the trailer. The trailer is all these people introduce themselves to me. Nigga, I couldn't put it on. Come on, Joe.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been trying to stop.

[Joe Button]

I couldn't put it on. Once these bitch ass niggas started introducing themselves and flexing. I'm Tyler. I play volleyball and I'm a cancer. The contestants never know what I'm bringing to the house.

[Big Parks]

The intro might be the worst part of the show.

[Joe Button]

It's like 10 of those.

[B Dot]

It was horrible.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, huh?

[B Dot]

The intro and the narrator. Worst parts of the show.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. Sometimes it be funny, though.

[Flip]

But a lot of people like Love Island. Look at me, look at me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I got to get my wife watch. She watches the British one. She said she about to start watching this one.

[B Dot]

I'm not watching the British.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She said the British one was. I'mma watch. I'm not watching none of it, but I'm watching. I try.

[Joe Button]

Your wife just came home. Like hell. You know, we got to trek out. The British. The new I just discovered, yo. Kind of lit my guy Idris.

[Flip]

El's nephew.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man. I can spot the pattern.

[Flip]

Would you like to spot the T?

[Joe Button]

My wife's been killing these TV suggestions.

[Flip]

I don't play one like this.

[Joe Button]

Here's a bright idea for you guys out there. I laughed. I laughed when I heard it. So it's only right I give it to y'.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All.

[Joe Button]

United Airlines is trying out a new thing so there's less congestion, shorter wait times at the airport.

[Big Parks]

Sounds great.

[Joe Button]

If they are trying what they're calling if I remember what right. Some type of twilight program, a early luggage drop off program. So if your flight is at 9am you may get an email 24 hours

[B Dot]

before the flight to come, drop your shit off.

[Joe Button]

And if you do, you could drive to the airport and check it and chop your bag, go back home and then go home and then come back

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you.

[Big Parks]

That is the dumbest I've heard.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Now you already lose my when it's on the same plane.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Right, right.

[Joe Button]

They're trying it out.

[B Dot]

Yeah, okay. They're trying.

[Joe Button]

They're trying.

[B Dot]

Good luck.

[Joe Button]

I had to rewind this when I heard it. I was like, huh, I wish I was.

[B Dot]

Would I suppose go to the airport twice.

[Big Parks]

Word.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, do I get some discount for doing this?

[Joe Button]

It's never happening.

[B Dot]

No, no, that one ain't going to work, big dog.

[Joe Button]

Never, ever, ever, ever.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, can we say like there's a couple of people in the world who feel that they have a lot of power and it's just flight attendants are one of them.

[Big Parks]

The airlines in general, they just feel like they, they do what the they

[Flip]

want outside of this, I slap out a lady outside of I slap the out of you. You talking. They feel they got mad power because

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

you can't do nothing about it.

[B Dot]

Can't not a damn thing. Play with that list if you want.

[Joe Button]

You could buy a better seat.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's true.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They do treat the in the first place.

[Flip]

Yeah, they are nasty.

[Big Parks]

You were sitting in the back.

[Flip]

I'm in the front of economy. Listen, they, they come with the water. They do mad they try to close a little like. Nah.

[Big Parks]

Y1 bag of pretzels for you. Flip.

[Flip]

Now I get four. I'm from Queens.

[Big Parks]

My bad.

[Joe Button]

Yo, I saw the interview that Floyd Mayweather did with Cameron explaining how he's not popped. Let me tell you, he's popped. Boy, did he sound popped.

[Flip]

Don't do it. Shout the.

[Joe Button]

Everything he said trying to say he wasn't popped sounded popped.

[B Dot]

I get it. I get it.

[Joe Button]

And he did what he's supposed to do.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he.

[B Dot]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I get it. Yo, nobody took my car.

[Joe Button]

And now that Mark feels Bad.

[B Dot]

Nobody took my car. I still got everything. All my people still paid. If I'm popped, you would see it somewhere.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, like he would probably be like bouncing checks, watches and shit like that. Taking imaginary fights.

[B Dot]

Right, Right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he gotta be popped. Cause I'm not even really well connected in this. And I've gotten calls. Hey, I shouldn't get called, but I got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Teas and peas.

[Big Parks]

Tease and peas.

[Joe Button]

There you go, T. Mark don't care, but I care. And Tupac is.

[Flip]

If nobody else care, I'm on the same type of time. I feel.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I care. I don't care how much he was balling. I don't want nobody be broke or getting kidnapped in Dubai.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He probably want some of that money he set on fire. This might be a good time to get it back.

[Joe Button]

Well,

[Flip]

yeah. Hey, listen, I was, you know, I

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

was like, hey, hey, I had to shut y' all the up.

[Joe Button]

I don't think that means he deserves what he's going through.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, no one said he did.

[B Dot]

It just means people gonna be going to feel, I don't think, sympathy for

[Joe Button]

you not mad at me.

[Big Parks]

People.

[Joe Button]

That doesn't make me feel that way. I'm. I'm not mad at people. I get it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I get it. I get it.

[Flip]

I don't want to see. I don't want to see nobody go broke and I don't, you know, and I was just in Miami with, you know, you know what I was doing in Miami?

[Big Parks]

Working.

[Joe Button]

We don't know what you doing.

[Flip]

I was just hanging out with. With the guys over there and like that money team. Not the money team. Adrian, Broner, Dean, Shout out to them. Oh, what I've noticed, though.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, is that part of your content announcement that you're gonna be recording with him?

[Flip]

Nah, give me a second. What I've noticed is that people like to encourage other to just act crazy. Let me say that. Cause I don't want to insult my mans and them. Like when we was in the spot, you know what I mean? They were like giving AB the liquor, trying to get him to drink a turn up. And you know what I'm saying, he getting all that money now, so he's giving it out and N is encouraging this. So when Flip came around to put a stop to that, they didn't like me actually. They wanted me out the spot, you know, when I was trying to get A.B. out of there. But it's just crazy when a nigga go broke and a nigga get back into the fucking field. Looks a little crazy, yo.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

People to me are predatory, you know, in this business. And they don't want the best for you. If they want you rich, they want you broke. They want you in whatever position they can get the most out of you and extract from you. And that's why you got to be around people who care about you. For every person like you that's going to protect them, there's going to be 10 people that's going to try and make content out of it.

[Flip]

I make content out of it, too.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but you're not doing it at his expense.

[Flip]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And if you could have made 10 times as much to watch him turn up drunk, you wouldn't do that.

[Flip]

I wouldn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's the difference thing. You must.

[Joe Button]

But then.

[Flip]

But then, yeah.

[Joe Button]

You saw that shit's ass. That shit is whack. Shit's corny doing that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it is off.

[Joe Button]

Even if is making money for. I don't give a. That shit is ass and it's corny and it just comes off away. So, yeah.

[Flip]

Thank you. It's a lot of money in that too, Joe. But money ain't everything them niggas try to. Joe, you gotta see, I don't be a. I be in my own world when I hear y' all stories. I be in my own world when you actually go out there and see it and you up niggas plays and just took out 10,000 and gave it to somebody and like, just doing. I don't know what's up with my man. You know, I don't know what liquor does or what when you get it. I look at it as catching up to the times that you miss. Because, you know, if you rich and then you go broke and you get rich again.

[Joe Button]

Listen, there's a bunch of millionaires out there with health complication.

[B Dot]

That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

There's a bunch of billionaires out there with health complications.

[Big Parks]

True.

[Joe Button]

Don't be tired about. Be out there just doing whatever for some money and then get to get a health complication. I'll be like, oh, what could we. What could I have done differently? You start looking at you in hindsight, it's like, dog, like, how old we

[B Dot]

gotta be now, we talked about when Wayne missed the show and then he came out and said it. He was like, yo, I suffer from seizures, and one of the triggers that I know I may possibly have a seizure is I get these migraines. And he was like, I had got one of the migraines prior to the show. So I said I can't do the show now. Take it how you will, but back to people. Millionaires with health complications. If that is the case, this doesn't. Like, we don't care. Get your ass out here and do this show. We want to record it. Yeah, like. Or if it's. If it's a stream or something with some content piece. We don't care. Get your ass in front of this camera so we can monetize it.

[Flip]

I don't like it.

[Joe Button]

While we. While we here, I want to send. I want to send a shout out to Rory. Before we started recording, we received some real unfortunate news about Rory.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That he shared on his podcast about health complications.

[Big Parks]

So it's confirmed.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Yeah, I hit him immediately.

[Big Parks]

Oh, word.

[Joe Button]

I hit him immediately. He had a stroke or strokes. I haven't spoken to him, just via text, but, yeah, he. He had. Yeah. It got scary for him recently.

[Flip]

Shout out to Rory. Yo, for sending love.

[B Dot]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That ain't no joke, man. Rory, I'm glad you all right. I hope you're all right. I'm praying for you. I love you. Yeah, that ain't. We gotta. If it's time. Everybody gotta stay on top of this, man.

[B Dot]

Yeah, I just saw Rory. We was at the Wale show a couple weeks. Two weeks ago. Yeah.

[Big Parks]

Scary.

[B Dot]

You don't wanna hear that about nobody, bro.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all caught up on your health checkups and all that, for sure.

[B Dot]

Oh, yeah, I stay on top of all that.

[Big Parks]

Me too.

[Joe Button]

Rory, I love you. If Ashley was alive, she would say, you chasing.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That's funny, sir.

[B Dot]

That's funny.

[Big Parks]

That was terrible.

[Joe Button]

She would have. Rest in peace, Ashley. All right, what else, what else, what else?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I had a moment this weekend where I was almost. Almost. Almost proud of Donald Trump.

[Big Parks]

Huh?

[Flip]

I knew you voted for that motherfucker.

[Big Parks]

It was you the whole time.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Nah, you know, it was. Y' all started a situation where the street striker for the United States. We're talking World cup for a minute football, where he basically got suspended for a game and suspensions happened. It probably was a bad call. They look like they just ran into each other. Whatever. It was a bad call. But Donald Trump made a phone call, big T, to the FIBA officials, or whoever you call when these things happen, somebody.

[Big Parks]

You think he got through.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he got through.

[B Dot]

Oh, he got through.

[Big Parks]

Oh, okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And the suspicion was lifted.

[Flip]

It.

[Big Parks]

Oh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And understand, this is like the first time that's happened. I think it was one other time in the 60s where it happened. But in general, like, it don't work.

[B Dot]

It don't go like that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

People are all. I was on Pierce Morgan yesterday. The British people are mad as about it. Oh, that was the lead story.

[B Dot]

Belgium was sending attorneys. They was ready. They was like, yo, we're gonna pro. We're gonna. We're not gonna allow this. We're gonna sue. But it was like, you know, United States. We played lawyer games. That's our bag.

[Big Parks]

Yeah, that's true.

[B Dot]

Y' all went in fut football and beat the. Out of US Football, but you don't want to play us in court.

[Big Parks]

That's true.

[B Dot]

But go ahead.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't.

[Flip]

I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, like, I don't think politicians and. And especially presidents should be jumping into sports events, however.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It was kind of nice.

[B Dot]

All right. I was waiting for.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean?

[B Dot]

Hell, yeah.

[Big Parks]

He's our best player or one of our. Important player.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Important player.

[Big Parks]

Okay.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Important player.

[B Dot]

They were making a big deal. Like, I don't follow. I don't. Not really. I don't know who he is, but I saw a big deal being made that, oh, how's he gonna miss the game? We don't have a shot now. We ain't have a shot anyway. Turns out the way it turned out. But people were. It was a big deal that he wasn't gonna play in this game.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Like, so if the president could call

[Flip]

him, make some shit Shake T. Do something good for once.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Get our man in there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

So do we think that the. The Trump sports curse is still real, though?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you. Parts still. That's the other P. He seems to be ruining everything he touches.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. He maybe should have stayed out of it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

Might have won without.

[Flip]

Dude.

[Big Parks]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The Knicks had, like, one piece of smut on their record after that Atlanta series, and it was when Donald Trump shows up now. He called feba.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, I keep saying fea. You keep calling, you know, whoever you call for. For soccer next, you know, that is whoever it was. Yeah. I don't know, man.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Parks]

We're out of it, though.

[Flip]

What would you prefer him to get involved in if you had to say?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know, Freeing people, stopping wars, feeding people. That's it. Otherwise, I wouldn't say.

[Flip]

Yeah, say it again.

[B Dot]

Sports related or you just saying social?

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah. Sports related or social.

[B Dot]

You know, I mean, it's much more important things. But if it was something that mattered to me, I would like for him to get on the phone with LeBron James and work this out. Where Bron bring His ass to Philly and we go.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What better way to celebrate the 250th anniversary of America than to go to the place where it all started? It started in Philly. That's right. We are the cedar in Sedgwick of democracy.

[Big Parks]

Talk to him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying? Philly. It all started in Philadelphia. So LeBron could bring it home. 250. What better way to celebrate America than LeBron James as part of the Philadelphia 1776ers. Boom.

[Flip]

I don't think LeBron going the sixes, man.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, you just hating.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't even watch basketball. They had to do that.

[Flip]

You can't see.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You don't want us to be happy.

[Flip]

I do understand.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's true.

[Flip]

But I got a lot of people in Philly that I love, man. But I'm just saying.

[B Dot]

Well, don't say that. Cause you might can't go back to Philly talking like that.

[Flip]

I got good friends over there.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, not if you keep talking like this. Not as LeBron. My nigga. LeBron coming to Philly will be major.

[B Dot]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We made our plate. I think we about two days away from an announcement.

[Flip]

So he announced he's doing that TV again?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no, no.

[B Dot]

He might do that on the Rocky stuff.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Did he say he learned his lesson from the. From the big Miami shit?

[Big Parks]

There's gonna be some type of content behind that.

[B Dot]

It ain't gonna be a post like he did when he was going to Lakers.

[Big Parks]

It might not be a live from

[B Dot]

the YMCA block on television, but we gonna.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He can do it from Max's in Philly. If we're on Erie. Go down there. Go to one of the local shaky bucks in Delaware Avenue.

[B Dot]

My jersey would be his Saturday.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah. I'm waiting. I'm trying not to J. I ordered it. You ordered it. He ordered LeBron Philadelphia 6 jersey.

[Flip]

I forgot that.

[B Dot]

You just get the custom and you put his name.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He got like three merchandise deals. What you talking about?

[B Dot]

All right.

[Big Parks]

Yeah. That's facts.

[Flip]

He ain't going there, so get that out. Yeah. Probably gonna get somebody else.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

No, we got every.

[B Dot]

We got everybody else loaded. That's what we need.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We got two spots. LeBron. And one for my main man, LeBron Jr. Yeah.

[Flip]

Bronnie JR. You change your mind on

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Bronnie AM fake flip.

[Big Parks]

Who are we supposed to be rooting for now that the US Is out

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

of the the tournament? I mean, I wasn't rooting for the US Anyway, so.

[B Dot]

Wait, what?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why would I be? Does that Shock, y'. All.

[Flip]

Who root for? I ran.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I root for anybody, but I root. I root for all the. Did you root for Third World? Do they even got a team?

[Flip]

Yes, they got a team.

[B Dot]

I think Columbia's still in it, right?

[Big Parks]

They played night last night. They played last night.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, wait. Y' all root for America in all the sports?

[B Dot]

Just the world. You goddamn right. I might not with the government and all of that here, but when it's us versus them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, I with them.

[B Dot]

That I look like Joel Santana with all the flag on there. Yeah, America.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So let me see who's lefting around the 16.

[Big Parks]

That's France, Morocco, Spain, Belgium, Norway, England, Morocco, Argentina, and either Ghana or, I'm sorry, Colombia or.

[Joe Button]

Why is it easy?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This easy. Morocco will be my first choice, but

[B Dot]

I also my daughter's half Morocco.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We'll be looking at Brazil, cuz, if Brazil's in it.

[Big Parks]

They're not. They're not.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They're not in. Oh, you're right. You're right. I'm about to say, cuz that's like Cape Ver.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right.

[Big Parks]

Columbia right there. Columbia.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark. I don't know how to say mark.

[B Dot]

Colombia's right there with them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I know.

[Flip]

Joya corrected me. Telephone.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, man, that.

[B Dot]

I don't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. I don't care about. I root for the. The. The. The people at the bottom.

[Flip]

Why you come back smelling good like that, boy? Don't come back smelling good, boy. Don't ever.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you come back smelling them?

[Flip]

I'm not smelling him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

The.

[Flip]

The scent is strong. Why you coming back smelling good? What. What you went to do went to

[Joe Button]

connect to the aura ring, boy. Yeah. Now you smell me, smell me.

[B Dot]

It's not an ad. It's not ad. We ain't gonna talk about the. We ain't got do that.

[Joe Button]

It's not an light your aura. A ring yo call yo how it

[Flip]

make you feel freezy?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

What do a yellow aura mean?

[B Dot]

What do you mean yellow aura?

[Flip]

He trying to just match you on

[Joe Button]

some Power Ranger got you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I know. I thought the color like Tyrannosaurus.

[Joe Button]

Try to match it with the Power Rangers. I think you try to match it to the captain sign on the shirt. You try to match the lettering on the soccer dance.

[Big Parks]

How many different or rings you got, boy?

[B Dot]

It's one ring.

[Flip]

You the barber shop this weekend for?

[Big Parks]

You put some nail polish on that.

[Joe Button]

I knew we had a shortage. I knew we didn't have a bunch of. Or you only need one just lying around.

[B Dot]

You only need one.

[Flip]

You went to the barber shop yesterday?

[B Dot]

I go to the barber shop twice a week for shout outs to my barber.

[Flip]

My man, you look good. For you.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. We got some, some sad news. Breaking news, not breaking, but it's genuinely sad. Oh, the Nolan Xavier Wells. Y' all heard the story? Yes, he was the missing 18 year old. Yes, he was. For a couple days now, people have been trying to find him, trying to figure out what happened after he disappeared. He was last seen on July 4th around 3pm off on Horn island, which right off the Mississippi coast. Anyway, his body has turned up. A body has turned up that matches his description. They're still gonna do the formal DNA test, but as of the time we're airing.

[B Dot]

They think it's him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Everyone thinks it's him.

[B Dot]

Got it.

[Flip]

Do you think foul play is at hand?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, that's been the thing, man. All the social media has been saying they believe that it is. And I know that's influencing people's opinion. I don't, I don't assume foul play. And I jump in real quick because

[Joe Button]

I just feel like social media may be influencing things in this case. But why people think that. I don't want to make it sound like that's a social media thing.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fair. I think, I think that's just the loudest voice that I'm hearing right now. I should have been more clear. You're right. There's. He was with a group of people. Part of it is he was with a group of people.

[Flip]

White people. White guys. Yep.

[Joe Button]

Who?

[B Dot]

The what and the where?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, Mississippi. Group of white people. And then he went off and he spent time with one young lady who I believe was the last person to have seen him. That's what I reported last night on Night school. That's the last thing I got was that he, he was with one young lady. She said she saw him, they parted ways, everything was normal.

[B Dot]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

She cooperated with investigators. They're not as of now naming her as a suspect again. You never know. Of course, we saw that with the David case. Sometimes they say that just to see how you car, Larry. But as of now, no one has reported foul play.

[B Dot]

It's early.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's early, but part of what I was thinking about, I was thinking of two things. One, if he's with a group of black people, do we assume that this is foul play?

[Flip]

No.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. So then we gotta unpack that. And again, a black dude in a Room full of white people is for me enough to be suspicious. I'm not saying that that's not a good suspicion given the content. But I also don't want to assume that just because somebody's missing, they were white people, that the white people did

[B Dot]

something to them in Mississippi.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Even in Mississippi.

[B Dot]

Right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm also don't assume they didn't. All I'm saying is I don't want to jump to conclusions and here's why.

[Flip]

Tell me why, Mark,

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

when your child is missing and then your child turns up dead, that's already trauma.

[B Dot]

You want to blame somebody.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. But if I start to put But I don't want to find out my child is dead, and I damn sure don't find out that somebody harmed or abused my child. Find out my child drowned versus somebody like poisoned them or killed them or shot, that's even more traumatic. And I don't want to put that trauma on the family before we have evidence of it. That's why I'm not against the conspiracy theory. And what I might have in the back of my mind will continue to brew. But now I think about it like a parent.

[B Dot]

See, even as a parent, what you would initially think, think is maybe not even that somebody did something, but somebody knows something.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the first thought and that could be true.

[B Dot]

One of y', all, somebody knows something. When everybody that my child was with, hey, we don't know what happened. We don't know. We don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows. I saw him. I didn't see him no more. Now he pops up dead. For a parent, that's somebody lying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

So that's where your mind goes. It may not be y' all killed it him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You could just know.

[B Dot]

Someone knows more than they're telling at this point because y' all trying to protect yourselves. You don't want to get in trouble, whatever the case may be, but the parents mind goes to. I'm not getting the truth from everybody.

[Joe Button]

If you're saying that it's irresponsible without enough facts to substantiate said claim, then

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

maybe, yeah, so I can't say foul. And that's the thing about the harm that does to the parent who's hearing that too. Because now they got to entertain the those unsubstantiated thoughts. That's why I care about it.

[Joe Button]

Honestly, if I were the parent, I would be starting there. And yeah, somebody need to convince me somebody didn't do it.

[Flip]

Facts, facts.

[B Dot]

We started right here. He was with y'. All all of y' all saying that

[Joe Button]

that is the correct thing to do, but, like, the character of these people and places have to come in. You talking about Mississippi. There's a thing there. Yeah, you're talking about white people. There's a thing thing there. There's a thing there.

[B Dot]

Are you only black?

[Joe Button]

I'm still not up for the black lady that went

[B Dot]

up with her white

[Joe Button]

friends and showed up. There ain't nobody say nothing about. Don't nobody care about. It's just whatever. Yeah, like, that happens too much.

[B Dot]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

For me to start with. And now they got something circulating that says there was an argument with Nolan and the white dudes. There's a video circulating online that they're saying.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I haven't seen that video.

[Joe Button]

That they're saying was an argument. I mean, I have it for you. I'm not gonna play it.

[B Dot]

No, you gotta.

[Joe Button]

Please don't. So I'm just saying more facts will come out. But I don't know, if the parents wanted to start with, hey, somebody question these four white boys. I wouldn't.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's what I would do as a parent. I'd be suspicious of everything and everybody.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just feel like I'm watching too many people start to say things matter of factly, like, oh, we know this is foul play. Oh, we know somebody did something to him. And I'm just saying.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's. That part is the Internet is gonna say things now.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And there's a family. And I just think there's a family on the other side of that that we don't often think of when we're speculating this shit. Somebody know. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

That's fair.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. That's all.

[B Dot]

Like, I don't see. I'm reading here the sheriff said that the investigators believe his friends left the island without him because they thought he arranged another ride back to the mainland. Like, see right there, as a parent, if my kid turn up missing prior to dead, missing, and this is what I hear, oh, well, we all left because we thought he had another.

[Flip]

Yeah, come on.

[Joe Button]

Come on, dog.

[B Dot]

And you know what?

[Joe Button]

On the flip side of that Internet argument, like in my friend Ashley's case, no. The parents couldn't come out and say, hey, we think that her white fiance did something. But I don't know if they was upset at the Internet saying it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, that works.

[Joe Button]

So it does work both ways.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

But think about in the Ashley case, the thing that they. The dominant story about what was happening is something that's not comforting. And then the alternative. I don't call it conspiracy. The alternative narrative that he did something, in some ways it might be more comforting, sadly, or not more comforting. It might not. Like if they're saying to one person saying you committed suicide, the other person saying somebody killed you. Both of those are awful stories. You know what I mean? But if I hear the difference between he drowned in a pool, he got a little drunk and drowned in the ocean, versus his friends plotted and murdered him or some shit like that, to me those extremes are different.

[B Dot]

But see, my problem is when let's say that happened, hey, he got drunk and drowned in the pool. And one of the friends tell me that, yeah, all right, we got something to go on. But when everybody's saying, oh, we don't know what happened, like, we left him there's suspicious.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it.

[B Dot]

We left him there because we thought he got another ride back. We rode here together. You get what I'm saying? We rode here together, we was a crew. And just miraculously you got another ride back out of the blue.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm all for questioning nobody.

[B Dot]

Like, ain't no question them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Interrogate them, doubt them, don't disbelieve them. I'm with all of that again. I just want to be mindful of who's hearing it on the other end. I remember this might seem like a far fetched, but like, remember season five of the Wire?

[B Dot]

Yes.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And this is when I first thought about this. When McNulty started to make up the homeless murders.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And when Kima had to go talk to the families, it was like, all right, they knew the kid was homeless. They knew the kid was on drugs, they knew the kid was fucked up. And now they found out that the kids spent their last days being abused by some crazy serial killer. Which was made up, right?

[B Dot]

It was all made up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

So again, they were subjected to. There was a whole other level of trauma that didn't have to happen. And. And that's the first time I hadn't even thought about that before. Like, I never thought about, like the families that have to hear the news about people. And so that's all I ever. Even as a reporter, when I'm in that capacity, I'm always mindful not to say too much.

[B Dot]

I get it. Cause those are not exact parallels. Because when a lot of times with the family in the Wire case, you kind of waiting for that news.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[B Dot]

You get what I'm saying? In this case, it's different. So the family might be sitting there like, yeah, something gotta make sense. Something has to make sense because right now all we got is one and two and that's not adding up.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully this all gets dealt with behind the scenes and we get some answers. Yeah, soon.

[Joe Button]

Soon.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And some accountability soon. I hope whoever. If somebody's responsible for this, I hope they find. Find out and hold them accountable soon.

[Joe Button]

I agree. Rest in peace.

[B Dot]

No, yes, rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

And thoughts and prayers and our condolences to his family.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, for sure.

[Joe Button]

Who the fuck wants to be going through.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the worst thing.

[Joe Button]

In closing because I don't have anything else for you gentlemen. In closing, according to act, him and Charlamagne have scheduled a sit down on camera.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, is that why you're finally addressing it?

[Flip]

Okay, he addresses.

[Joe Button]

Who's finally addressing him?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm being sarcastic. The public keeps saying Joe's ducking this conversation. And I'm like, I think you've been respecting responsible.

[Joe Button]

I said every single thing that I want to say on it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You even call that on there? No, no, I'm just saying because people. I feel like people want you to be. If you're not in the mess being messy. People act like you're not saying nothing.

[Joe Button]

They want me to shoot at one of these guys. They want me to involve myself and they think they could your me into doing.

[Big Parks]

Well, they don't know you historically. Sorry, Your has been an effective tactic over the years. Years. Not for you specifically, in general.

[Joe Button]

I mean, that might have worked during movies.

[Flip]

I mean, you work. So not with you, but it works.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It worked.

[Joe Button]

They want me to have a reason to shoot a Charlemagne. I have no reason to shoot a Charlamagne. They want me to have a reason to shoot. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.

[B Dot]

I'm.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

Go kill each other for all I care.

[B Dot]

Yeah, I wish it wasn't on camera.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I don't want them to. No, no, it has to be on camera. That's the only way that that resolve will happen.

[B Dot]

Does not have to be on camera. It does not have.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh yeah, no, I don't and I hope it's not. I don't want a content thing. I mean, I want them to do whatever they do.

[Big Parks]

I'mma watch it.

[B Dot]

I'm aware, I'm aware we in content land, but with certain lines and is cross freeze. That don't have to be on.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I just hope that's not.

[Joe Button]

Neither one of them to me has crossed a real hard line.

[B Dot]

There's been lines.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I disagree.

[B Dot]

I totally Disagree.

[Flip]

Not from.

[B Dot]

Or I'll put it this way, if y' all are going to do that on camera, would want y' all to have a conversation prior.

[Joe Button]

They've spoken already. They've spoken prior. It ain't we shooting at each other and now we sitting down talking behind the scenes.

[B Dot]

Then I'm cool.

[Joe Button]

Then this all started because they spoke behind the scenes. It started cuz, according to Act Charlemagne called and said, yo, some going on,

[B Dot]

you better watch out.

[Joe Button]

It started. They talking, talk, get to the bottom of it. It will never get resolved or closure or finality if y' all don't sit down. So, yeah, go.

[Flip]

Go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Sit down. All.

[B Dot]

I just don't think anything is for the. I know, I know. I know where y' all stand, but I. I'm on the other side of that.

[Joe Button]

Well, no, I don't think everything is for the Internet.

[B Dot]

No, I'm saying for content.

[Joe Button]

I don't think everything is for content. This is for content. This is content. Brisket. This is short rib. Fire up the grill slow on low. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's happening. Both these dudes fresh off vacation. They recharged. Refueled.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Come waste your vacation energy on war.

[Big Parks]

Content wars.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, what a world we live in.

[B Dot]

I know.

[Joe Button]

I'm so glad to not have to be in a war with nobody. Oh, all I would say, I was never at war. I'm chilling, man.

[Big Parks]

This is not used a couple worse.

[Joe Button]

Oh, well, it's happened. Yeah, it has happened. Happened. It feels good to not be. To watch from the side of the road driving by the car wreck, like, oh, look, that was a bad one. They hit the divider.

[Big Parks]

Look, y'.

[Flip]

All.

[B Dot]

Oh, that flipped over.

[Joe Button]

Look. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why would. Why would you want to jump in beef at 46 in the summer.

[Big Parks]

True Rich.

[B Dot]

That part right.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

And they all rich. Richer than you, in fact. It's like at some. At some point, you just.

[B Dot]

Just.

[Flip]

I'm trying to secure my investment.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You this up, Slip.

[Flip]

I'm not with y'. All.

[B Dot]

I'm not with y'.

[Flip]

All small eyes on me. Maell.

[Joe Button]

No, you're right. Bow to the people. We acts do maintenance. So listen. Shout out Charlamagne. Shout out act. I'll be watching. I'm even. Put it on my big screen.

[Flip]

Yo, how's the Joe Button community thing doing?

[Joe Button]

Shout out to the Joe Button community.

[Big Parks]

Kill that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, pre smoked that 4th of July, 5th of July.

[Big Parks]

Hey, he's got a show this week.

[Joe Button]

I'm going go pr but yeah, doing good. Shout out to community. Shout out to Joy. Community. Shout out to all the Jo.

[Flip]

Are you. Have you signed up yet?

[Joe Button]

I'm over there, but they don't believe it's me. God is funny.

[B Dot]

You active.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[B Dot]

And they don't think it's you.

[Joe Button]

That's why I stopped being active. Right. I'm over there. Community in my life away. They like, oh, off. Oh, so I got to wait till you tweeting. Like, wait until I get my badge or whatever. We're coming up with to let.

[B Dot]

Use your card page.

[Big Parks]

Stop tweeting.

[Joe Button]

Like, use your card page.

[B Dot]

That's all you got to do.

[Joe Button]

Out to all, each and every one of the Joe Button community, whether it's led by Joe Button and Ian or led by fans, man. Shout out to all.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, getting $500 worth, though. I tell you that.

[Joe Button]

I watch one.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I watch one dude on YouTube. Yo, it was just a 20 minute clip of the show. I was like, what the. They just.

[Flip]

I was counting their pockets.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They just stepping right. I was like, I was counting views. This ain't a good investment.

[Flip]

I can't wait to the six month. I was counting this.

[Big Parks]

Use flip.

[Flip]

Yeah, use me. Hey, use a lot of me.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

This is so uncreative now. And they just take 50 minutes of the show. Just post it.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to all the clippers out there doing it. Y' all killing that.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Do we get an employee discount on that?

[Joe Button]

Y' all killing. It's too much inside baseball.

[Flip]

Keep.

[Joe Button]

Keep killing that, y'. All. That's what I got. It's been a good day, man.

[Flip]

It's been a good day.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's been a good day.

[Joe Button]

I. I think so. I think it's been an amazing day.

[Flip]

Give me tight. You get me tight. Have my nephew come on.

[Joe Button]

Yo, okay, Listen, man, we have finally come to an end. Every time I say where they not getting three hours, they get three hours.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I knew when you said that they was getting three hours.

[Joe Button]

And look at that topic board.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We amazing.

[B Dot]

We bodies that topics. Yo, for that to be the boy.

[Joe Button]

Nah, honestly, I shouldn't have a doubt when y' all got the part of them.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, Joe was like, I part of the money. I don't need to go three hours no more. And I was like, yeah, I'm not hungry.

[Joe Button]

Look at the field, man.

[Flip]

You a phony.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You be reading shit. You be. Yo, I ain't gonna lie.

[Flip]

You. You be bodying that. Yo, I' ma fuck you up.

[Joe Button]

Yo, listen, man, Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast. As much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Hey, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, I bid you adieu. Farewell. Adio. Cerebra dirti. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye or simple head nod will suffice.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ego.

[Flip]

Hey,

[Joe Button]

Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. You just might need it. What's your plans for the week? Anything interesting?

[Flip]

Working, baby.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Working. Working on the eating market.

[Joe Button]

Not working. Never not working.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, that's it, evp.

[B Dot]

Enjoying these last kids.

[Joe Button]

Get the up. Yo, that's it. You hear this? Jbp. Shut the.

[B Dot]

That's right. That's right.

[Big Parks]

Flip.

[Joe Button]

Oh man.

[Flip]

Hey, I'm trying to get to a dream.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

They didn't counter sign the contract yet.

[Flip]

Motivated me, man.

[Big Parks]

Huh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Is your all inked up like countersign and everything with him? Yeah.

[Flip]

I don't know.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got watch in.

[Flip]

I trust my man. I trust my man. If there's anybody I trust, I trust him. Regardless if I look at them with the side eye, I trust him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what's up, cuz.

[Flip]

I'm going to go out there and get it.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I already know.

[B Dot]

Talk to him.

[Joe Button]

Deadpool part, I'm saying.

[Flip]

And then I'm gonna come back here and drag my nuts on the floor. Just walk bad slow. Try to get a reaction, but he

[Joe Button]

ain't gonna give it to me. We love Flip, man.

[Flip]

I love y' all too.

[Joe Button]

I'm happy.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Love you Flip Bars.

[Joe Button]

What you on the rest of the week?

[Big Parks]

I'm gonna see PR at Webster hall or Irving, whatever. That's Thursday. Thursday night. Thursday. Premium Alchemist.

[Flip]

Nice.

[Big Parks]

I'll do that. I'll be in the studio working regular.

[B Dot]

I'mma with that.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Come nice Mark. You work, work.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Ian and Mark show and we taping all week. We getting a couple episodes up. Done.

[Joe Button]

Streets waiting. Streets is waiting. Yeah. Heard y' all got some heat.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

We do, man. If I can get in focused, you know what I mean, we'll be all right.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he all over the place.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he's a busy man.

[Flip]

I'm at his house, busy man. He got some card. He got. He got mad. He got this little laugh.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

I wanted to slap.

[B Dot]

I slap.

[Flip]

You try to get me laid out in the bed and talk to me. Lay down. Hey, man, feel this.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you did get your contract?

[Joe Button]

He got him.

[Flip]

Not lay with him.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

He said lay down his bed. He like, yo, I want you to

[Flip]

see what this bed does. So I lay down.

[Joe Button]

I got to show you how this bed works.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

You got your deal. You got your deal. Done.

[Flip]

I got other deals. Watch your. How many did you you got?

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Not that many. I don't want no deal like that.

[Flip]

Got you the 360, boy. I know how Ian and Mark are dropping.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Flip]

Ian and Mark show. Hey, yo, turn this gation off, yo.

[B Dot]

Absolutely nuts.

[Joe Button]

What happened, man? We done.

[Flip]

We just end it.

[Joe Button]

We just end it. Shout out to Tony. Tony. Tony, man, who's got the pillow? Y' all hold it down. We'll be back same time, same place, this weekend.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Put your birthday.

[Flip]

So.

[Big Parks]

Joe Button.

[Joe Button]

You've never heard of Joe Button? Jbp. Jbp.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

Where would you be without the jbp?

[Joe Button]

We'll fold that up right now.

[Flip]

I'm from the Weber Nitty era.

[Dr. Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the network.