Episode 946 | "Hov Did"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 946 | "Hov Did"

Date: July 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Joe Budden and his eclectic crew give a comprehensive, hilarious, and deeply personal breakdown of Jay-Z’s triple-header at Yankee Stadium. The crew—Joe, Parks, Ish, Ice, Mark Lamont Hill, Queens Flip, and others—spend much of the podcast reliving every detail from the concerts, dissecting iconic moments, stagecraft, crowd energy, and what makes Hov “the greatest.” In addition, the panel dives into a viral rap beef, content creators v. corporate beefs, and a little sports talk. As always, the tone swings freely from jubilant fanboying to sharp industry insight, with plenty of ribbing and quotables throughout.

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Table of Contents

• Yankee Stadium Jay-Z Shows: Key Recap
  • The Experience (Multiple POVs)
  • Set Breakdown & Special Guests
  • Fan Culture & Symbolism
  • Technical Execution & Performance
  • The Legendary Night 3 Delay
  • Crowd/Energy/NYC Vibes
• Rap Game Discussions
  • 38 Spesh v. Mainstream: Raps, Beefs, and Independence
• Culture & Media
  • Charlamagne vs. DJ Akademiks: The Sit Down
  • Relationships and Media Games
• Touches on Sports/Scams (Quick Hits)

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Yankee Stadium Jay-Z Shows: Key Recap

The Experience: Vantage Points & Initial Impressions

• The crew attended various nights and sat at different vantage points—suites, boxes, general admission, and even found themselves stuck outside during chaos on Night 3.

• Mark Lamont Hill (15:18): “I'm good, man. Tired.”
  Joe Budden: “When I seen you on Sunday, the boss looked wide awake… your wife is her, yo.”

• Numerous stories about moving through VIP, running into fans (“Joe Budden! Joe Budden!”), and dealing with New York’s boisterous crowd.

Memorable Quote:
Joe Budden (40:21): “Tonight, I'm not just a fan. I'm a rapper… This era that they talking about—the people that's here, we identify differently.”

Set Breakdown & Special Guests

Night 1: Reasonable Doubt tribute

• Opened with a baseball symbolism video—Beyoncé cutting Hov’s hair (classic “album is done” nod).
• Beyoncé fills in for Mary J. Blige on “Can’t Knock the Hustle.”
• “He made it work by mixing in other songs that weren't on Reasonable Doubt and even some of the features… it felt better than I thought it was going to.” (Mark Lamont Hill – 25:58)
• Nas comes out for "Dead Presidents II", “The World is Yours,” “New York State of Mind,” and “Where I'm From.”
• Blue Ivy plays piano during “Feelin’ It.”

Night 2: Blueprint tribute

• Shorter, leaner show – “It was a 90-minute show. Damn. This was on the T with this. And now I'm hitting the exit with everybody.” (Joe - 54:59)
• Eminem comes out for “Renegade.”
• Pharrell makes an appearance, “smoked” his set.

Night 3: Greatest Hits/Surprise Guests / The Legendary Delay

• Massive crowd control issue led to hours-long delay: “Show started at 12:15am on a Sunday. To people that have jobs, people that have 401ks. It wasn’t no holiday. I was about to leave at least 12 times.” (Joe - 75:14)
• Guests: Teyana Taylor (mic issues), Jermaine Dupri, Jeezy, Usher (wildin’ on Henny), Rihanna (“looked high, out of her mind”), Pharrell & the Clipse, The-Dream, Fat Joe, Swizz Beatz (DMX/NYC tribute), Beyoncé (“Drunk in Love”).
• Fans debated the “legacy act” vibe of Rihanna and the energy of late-night performances.
• Powerful arrangement/musicality: “That might be the best band I ever heard during a hip hop show.” (Joe – 28:09)
• “The crowd was us – it was symbolic of someone who’s spent their entire career speaking directly to culture, about culture, FOR culture.” (Joe – 45:24)

Memorable Quotes:

• “He could have played ANY song… I would have known every word.” (Joe – 47:40)
• “That was amazing. Who else was there?” “Let’s slow down a second, Beyoncé coming in for Mary… that needs to be— they need to sell that!” (Joe & crew – 27:25)

Technical Execution & Performance

• “His arrangement was bar none. He did an encore on that night... Guru was digging in the crates with some of this shit, and everybody lost their mind. It was a great show.” (Mark – 33:08)
• “Stamina. Being on stage, breath control, all of that… He ain’t take a seat at all.” (Flip – 36:27)
• “The visuals were a game changer. Massive screen... they made sure no matter where you sat, if you couldn’t see the stage, you could see what’s going on.” (Mark & Ish – 31:34)
• Respect for technical aspects: “Performing with muscle memory, but mixing and matching verses and beats on the fly takes so much skill.” (Joe – 30:09)

Fan Culture & Symbolism

• “That was us... Wall Street chicks, corporate execs in Timbs... 46-year-old 6-inch stiletto baddies knew every word.” (Joe & Ish – 48:08)
• Stories of navigating New York show “let out,” the grown/grown-up crowd, energy compared to younger “rowdy” scenes.
• Handling adversity: crowd waited 4-5 hours outside with minimal info and “no incident,” says Ice. “That’s something that should be applauded.” (95:22)

The Legendary Night 3 Delay

• Outside, chaos: “Yo, the communication was bad on the inside as well. They did a very poor job in letting people know what was going on for real.” (Joe – 60:44)
• Multiple stories of fans, staff, celebs locked out, including family. “12,000-15,000 people outside”—people risked being trampled.
• “Listen, if they died, they die. Until I remember my mom was out there…” (Joe – 43:42)

Crowd/Energy/NYC Vibes

• “It was packed with people our age, younger, joints that was the [ones] in 96… it was our demo. It felt good.” (Mark – 35:47)
• “It was the most New York summer I’ve ever experienced.” (Joe – 207:03)

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Rap Game Discussions

38 Spesh vs. Jadakiss, Fat Joe, Jim Jones—Beefs, Rapping, Industry Politics

Context:
38 Spesh, an independent rapper, takes shots at major names (Jadakiss, Fat Joe, Jim Jones) for ducking features, content, and “not being real.”

• Critical moment: “Yo, you call somebody out about rapping. They respond via rapping, you should not run to a podcast. That’s my take.” (Ice – 118:32)
• Joe unpacks how “independence” in rap isn't free from politics; relationships matter, you can’t act like you’re above the collective, and the industry will “put hurdles in front of you.”
• “Spesh reminds me of me, when I was at my angriest… independent, nobody helped me, fuck these niggas, anybody could get it.” (Joe – 117:11)
• Panel consensus: Your independence doesn’t mean you won't have to play the game.
  “At some point it's meant to make you—the real street nigga—flip a fucking lid. The music business is not the land of realness, nigga... If you’re a real nigga, then why are you making the day harder for other niggas?” (Joe – 131:40)
• Discussion of 50 Cent’s “How to Rob” as both parallel and anomaly.
• “All of you rap niggas don’t have to make all the mistakes me and your predecessors did. Me and Ran, we did the internet beefing, diss records, fought, all that. By the time we met up in Starlets and talked, it was like, ‘was it worth it?’ It was exhausting.” (Joe – 141:17)

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Culture & Media

Charlamagne vs. DJ Akademiks: The Sit Down

Breakdown/Analysis:

• Anticipated face-off between two new-media giants over old and new paths in black media, their differing allegiances (Roc Nation v. Drake), power and responsibility, and who “won” the sit-down.
• Charlamagne comes out looking like the “elder statesman,” rational, logical, Hall of Famer, unshakeable. ACT is seen as green, reverent, and unable to clearly communicate most of his points live.

Key Quotes:

• “Charlamagne, with his clear skin and lotion skin, is a different monster than the old, ashy Charlamagne… This guy looked present, aware, on point… He sounded like an adult, an elder statesman.” (Joe – 164:41)

• “Act has reverence for this man. And when you come into a battle and have that, you can’t flip that switch, can’t win.” (Joe – 170:57)

• “Charlamagne is carrying it like Hov did with Meek... ‘I could never beef with Meek. I freed him from a whole bid.’” (Ice – 177:32)

• Wide-ranging talk on why creators struggle with established powers, flagging, why "relationships are the real currency," and the reality of playing the media/industry “game” (185:12).

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Sports & Scams (Quick Hits)

• Boosie’s Pardon Scam (149:10): Paid $600,000 to right-wing “lobbyists” hoping for a Trump pardon; now suing for half back. “That's a nice scam, boy.” Panel dissects the “lobbying vs. bribery” technicality.
• NBA Fisticuffs (191:10): Bam Adebayo punches Tyler Herro at Summer League for trash-talking with a fan; discusses acceptable consequences and lessons learned (“sometimes people need to be punched to learn a lesson”).
• John Morant’s trade and consequences—briefly revisited.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Joe (45:24): “He is the best, bar none, to me. As hip hop grows and changes… For me, him and the people he brought out—the crowd—that was us. Symbolic of a career speaking directly to culture, about culture, for culture.”
• Ish (36:39): “That was what we thought, that it wasn’t happening. They were trying to wait for more people to leave on their own before they announced it.”
• Joe (117:11): “He reminds me of me… not low, angriest. Independent. Nobody in the game helped me; fuck these niggas. Anybody could get it.”
• Joe (164:41): “Charlamagne is in the Radio Hall of Fame. He sounded like a real adult, elder statesman.”
• Joe (207:03): “One of the most New York summers I’ve ever experienced. I’m having an absolute blast.”
• Mark (104:47): “Those in their upper 50s cannot command a crowd of three nights in the world’s biggest city and do that… What Hov did was a different level of excellence.”

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a true time capsule of New York hip hop culture, the reverence and critique it inspires, and the messy, brilliant web of community around it. The podcast thoroughly unpacks every angle of the Jay-Z concert run, invites debates about independence and industry in hip hop, and draws parallels to personalities and “wars” throughout black media and beyond. Whether you’re after the details, the inside jokes, or the wisdom, it’s all here.

For everyone who couldn’t get to Yankee Stadium or who missed the drama, this recap gives it to you live—as only the JBP crew could.

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Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[B]

Holy. I'm like, oh, this old man got moves. Parks caught me. So you put your phone down and enjoy yourself.

[C]

Enjoy yourself.

[B]

No, I was recording.

[C]

Corey,

[A]

welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to the jbp. All right, go ahead.

[B]

We live, Marks.

[C]

Yeah, we're live.

[B]

Go ahead. Yo.

[A]

Hey, go ahead.

[B]

Listen, I'm going to let them get into the whole Jay Z show. One of the highlight moments for me at the Jay Z show, besides being in the beautiful suite with Joe and his family. And everybody was watching my man Corey, like 50, moving like a ninja on the dance floor. You hear me? He was dancing in sync with his shorty wifey. I don't know what that was.

[A]

That's wifey.

[D]

It is.

[B]

She kept that on his. And on top of that, we can't talk about freeze. You gotta talk about Corey. See, Corey's a pimp. He let her go far, but he got the side eye. Let me see what she.

[D]

I see.

[B]

Making sure she. Cause she in check. She lend me the charger and shit. Corey held me down like her bag right here. Corey like recording that nigga son like this.

[A]

No, Cory, another one of them.

[B]

He a sucker for love. Ass nigga boy.

[A]

Well, his street name back in the day. He know your street name back in the day was Casanova. Oh, yeah, he smooth Casanova right there.

[B]

You know your man. You know how he moves. That nigga was wilding.

[D]

You hear me?

[B]

Holding her, nigga dancing to J. Nigga, that's not even a song to dance to. Like that.

[A]

He turned my music ha ha ha. You know what I mean?

[B]

I said, oh, you know what's funny?

[A]

And I was.

[D]

Mark got up.

[B]

It was, you know, shout out to Ms. Hale. Mark got up. He was like this I'm stuff. Joe got up, nigga, not Corey.

[A]

He was like hanged up dancing to Jay.

[B]

I'm like, oh, this nigga's wilding.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And I was going to compliment him on. On him and him and his wifey being on their best behavior, but I wouldn't know, cuz I took about seven naps. He was not smart, though.

[D]

He's smart move.

[C]

I wish I would have turned.

[E]

I'm talking about during the show.

[A]

You did you? Did Joe.

[B]

You and Shot. I'm like, I came down like Dan. They sleep at the same time.

[A]

One thing I'mma do. I'mma get some sleep. Oh, we ain't starting yet. Say less. Oh, y' all want to Play now? Volume 87 in here on repeat. Check this out. Hey, check this out, buddy. This is the same as when I'm on a plane. And they'd be like, oh, there's seven to nine planes in front of us. We have no idea. Hey, say less. I don't even hear that. I'm going to bed, boy. Some old nigga shit.

[C]

They played Gangsters paradise twice.

[A]

I know Coolio.

[E]

We ain't hear that outside.

[A]

On Repeat, New York.

[E]

Wait, back to back?

[A]

No, no, it was not back. But that's what made it worse. Yeah, because by the time playlist started over here, by the time Coolio came on the first time. That's why I love new. By the time Coolio came on the first time, everybody that was there was already tight. We know what's going on now, right? So we like, Yo, Coolio, my G, like D. Nice. Done left nobody on the turntable. Coolio. So you kind of heard a big. Like, that was the first time. And they let the third verse rock. I didn't even know there was a third verse. A third verse in gangster's Paradise. A third verse, and right there, a third verse. But New York let it rock, right? Right. They play, like six more songs, seven more songs, eight more songs.

[E]

Come back around again.

[A]

But now every time a song end, we getting restless. So we thinking that somebody's coming out and we about to start. So every time a song, they fading out. Oh, okay. They're not blending into each other. Straight fading out.

[D]

Straight playlist.

[A]

And you can hear the whole building, and then the next song. Come on, nigga. When Gangsta's paradise on again. Whole New York. What the. Yo, no. Now y' all are playing a different type of game with us in here. We don't want to hear. At least throw on some tunes, nigga. Oh, my God. Yo, audience out there. At least two hours of this is going to be about this Jay Z show. All the Jay Z shows. This is still not a Roc Nation podcast, even though I can see how you would think that after the day. I ain't gonna hold y'. All. I have a clear understanding of some things today. I get it now. I get it. And we're gonna talk about it.

[B]

Fire.

[A]

We gonna talk about it, man.

[B]

You was missed, boy. I thought about you there? I wish Ish was here.

[C]

Ish?

[E]

What happened?

[B]

Yeah, I wonder how you would act.

[D]

We was looking forward to seeing you.

[B]

You had the invitation. He want personal calls. Yo, hey, come through. I know you're type old. That's. Oh, that mobster call me Johnny.

[E]

I'm lost. I don't know what you would.

[B]

You want to see you there?

[E]

I doubt it, but okay.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

You wouldn't. You asked me if I got an invitation. I said no.

[B]

All right, well, nigga, you wouldn't have came anyway. Now you saying that you ass.

[D]

You got something to do.

[A]

Well, I gotta be all her names.

[E]

Well, I gotta be all her names.

[A]

You do come down a few Hovinger levels. Why you missed one show. Three to miss all you do. None of them to miss all three of them.

[C]

I thought he would for sure better the reasonable doubts.

[D]

I thought you'd have been anyone reasonable doubt for sure. Though

[B]

sometime I feel I gotta get away.

[A]

What the hell did that have to do with.

[B]

He said you gonna watch show in London.

[E]

I'm going to a different show.

[A]

Oh, you going to the London show? Okay, I'm going to London.

[E]

He had the stun on us.

[B]

You don't with your that much that you got to go all the way to London to go to a show. Like we got you under that pressure, boy. Come hang out with us, boy.

[A]

I be forgetting you such a Virginia. Sometimes you don't care about the whole Yankee Stadium aspect of it.

[C]

No, in hindsight that's not a great question.

[E]

Word turns out.

[B]

Yeah, you don't give a fuck.

[E]

Yeah, I don't care about that.

[A]

Nah, that was. That was. It was still symbolic.

[C]

It was.

[A]

It was still very symbolic.

[E]

Was fire.

[A]

Even during the long wait once I learned that there's no curfew. Like even if there was.

[E]

Even if there was.

[A]

But at no time.

[E]

We'll pay the fine.

[A]

There's no fine.

[E]

I'm just saying we'll pay if it was.

[C]

This is Jay Z and the Yankees. They could do whatever the fuck they want in New York City.

[B]

There was no curve. He's right.

[A]

Okay, that's cool to say. I know we did the whole point out the commercials.

[E]

I got it.

[A]

However the laws that are in place.

[B]

Yeah, I thought about this already.

[A]

With nobody making a call. State start this shit at one in the morning. And I knew something was fishy.

[E]

We gonna start?

[A]

Let's start.

[E]

Let's start.

[A]

Yeah, we'll start fighting. I wanna hear from Yalls perspectives from like the bums that was outside.

[E]

Oh for sure.

[A]

Fighting for their lives.

[E]

I got you. Where you was at inside, I got you. We was outside making sure your moms were straigh.

[A]

Just throw it out there. Wow. Well played. Wow. Very well played. She was a bum too. Hey, when we start, I'm talk about.

[D]

Shout to the whole.

[A]

Boogie down. The whole bx. What up out there? The whole five barrels, man. Anybody showed up, man. Yo, shout out to everybody that was at at least one of those shows, man. I'm staying alive. Shout out to the old. Had to go get some Icy Hot. Had to go get cryotherapy. Had to sleep back massages and all that, man. My heart goes out to y' all Neosporin family next year. Bringing home three for the family. Watch me. You can catch a dive on hachi. Popping like a Nazi. Iced out like that.

[B]

Somebody never that.

[A]

Come on, man. I ain't gonna beat you down with like 90 whole songs on the intro, man. As much as you want to, I'm not. Yeah. I'm fighting the urge to glaze. I'll take a plain donut today, sir.

[C]

Ego.

[A]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Shout out to the shop groups out there. Shout out to the patrolies out there. Everybody getting money out there. Yes, sir. Everybody that flew in. Everybody in the airports and all

[C]

it go.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, New York was out looking good. Shout out to everybody that was out looking good over the weekend. Ego. And I gotta come in here with a little bit of home humble pie, man, for how I spoke about the Reasonable Doubt show, Okay. I don't know why I didn't just go to all three like the told me to. Two out of three. But you needed to be at all three to really. To really understand what was going on in there. But we gonna talk about it, man.

[D]

Yummy.

[A]

Shout out to everybody out in London. Yo, when my boy get, take care of them. Show them a good time.

[B]

Get straight to it. Married like this chain. He cut the intro short. That's two records, boy. I slap the out of you. All right, my nigga, let's get straight to it.

[A]

8:30am I thought you were gonna bring us back up.

[B]

Pause.

[A]

Nah, we too mellow. This is a talk show.

[C]

It is.

[D]

Got it.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

And there are things to talk about quite a bit.

[C]

Verse three. Come on.

[B]

Hey, you worse than a Yankee stated. Verse three. I didn't even know there was a verse three.

[C]

Verse three.

[A]

Joe, what the. Yo, sick. I was trying to get right to it, okay? No, no, no, cuz. I need my guys in a Good mood. Hold on now.

[D]

We in a great mood.

[A]

Yeah, fine. No, no, no. Let's get y' all right. Let's get y' all right.

[D]

Come on, man.

[A]

At least a little verse. At least a little verse. At least a little verse.

[D]

Just the sound of his voice is a hit.

[A]

Oh, all right.

[D]

Y' all got me really confused.

[A]

Glazed donut.

[D]

Come down Chicks tops come down when them shots come out make cops come around when the blocks come out I can wake up a small town Finish off the block and I make my more rounds Stairs get exchanged and the fifth come out Tough guy disappear, then the bitch come out that's him I'm using up, boy either with chicky with or his chip of mouth. Cause I've been doing this since Chips was out watching Erica Strata bagging up in the Ramada Table full of powder ac bro about to take another shower on my 25th hour despite le Heavywear game on a flight.

[A]

Hey, happy birthday. I heard I missed a hell of a time.

[D]

I heard I missed the flight I can touch down and take off the same night. So bossy. Get off me, Trick.

[B]

Get off me.

[D]

You can't get off me I'm so glossy no sixes on squeeze layback Maybacks don't even talk to me. This is the ignorant. You like ass trickle sights?

[C]

Come on,

[A]

Y' all did this, man. Now I gotta hear the second verse at least. At least a little bit. He.

[C]

As long as you don't do the third verse again.

[A]

We cool. Looking at themselves in the mirror backwards can't even face themselves don't fear no rappers. De Niro's in practice, so don't believe everything you hear Low. See, this is when there was a clear understanding out there.

[D]

None of what you hear, even if it's bad by me. And with that said, I will kill niggas dead cutting niggas short Give you wheels for legs I'm a ki double L er see y' all shoot n straight through the ER Whoa, this ain't br no S C CEO the next Leo no, the next leader. The whole free world. The first thing I'mma do is free Seagull gungle, gungle.

[A]

I don't care. Mark from Philly. I don't give a fuck about none of that. Even though Beans killed that. He did. He killed that. Come on, let me get these drops out the way real quick. This is a talk show,

[D]

damn it.

[A]

I got some talking to do.

[E]

Who was that?

[D]

It's Mark lamahill

[B]

from the Weber Nitty era.

[D]

It's the Network.

[A]

All right, all right, all right. What episode is this?

[C]

946.

[A]

Welcome to episode 946 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by a by Powered by Prize Picks Price Fix. Gang, I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here. Very well rested host Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, if there's a big event going down and he's outside and there's some little white holes out there, boy, give him shelter. If you see. If you happen to see him out in Florida with the stream of boys and there's some little white hoes, you bet your ass.

[B]

Stop that.

[A]

Queens get the money, yo. Queens flip in the building.

[B]

Yo, yo, yo, yo. Happy to be here. Happy to be here, man.

[D]

Girl, you playing.

[A]

You live in danger.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Living in dangerous for me. Yo, listen, boy, I'm watching you, boy.

[B]

I'm home.

[A]

I'm a fan of your work. Work. I'm a fan of yours and my stepson.

[C]

Boy.

[A]

All these little do is just watch streamers. Yeah, they got it all day. I didn't. I ain't know it was like that all day, though, dog. I walked by at 2 in the afternoon. You flipping Dean the Great. And who the is this? What the weird is? I'm like, yo, you like the streamers a lot?

[B]

You look at me.

[A]

Yeah, hey, that's you. That's you.

[E]

You got it, Flip.

[A]

How you doing, dog?

[B]

I feel good, man. Man, I'm excited to be here.

[A]

My mom want to know where you got some sweatpants from that you had on or something?

[C]

Yeah, he did that.

[B]

Junior put me on there.

[A]

My mom is like a big fan of you now, man.

[B]

I love your mom, man. She pulled me to the side. She was extremely nice, gave me a hug, and she was calling some lady to show. I don't know.

[A]

I cannot believe.

[E]

We'll talk to you.

[B]

I don't want to say.

[D]

Some lady.

[B]

I love your mom, yo. Thank you for putting me on. I forgot, like, when she came in, I'm like, she came in with y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

I'm like, oh, okay. He play. He played a dirty game, cuz. I tried to get a ride with the. They can put Nat and Rachel, shout out to them while we riding with that I would see Corey coming. I'm like, nigga, are you. I said, all right, I'll call you back. I'm good enough, yo, cuz, then I

[A]

ain't hear from Corey, but I know that's how he communicates, so I Called? No, he hit me. Said, yo, what time you leaving? I know what that that means.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I read the whole paragraph from that. So when I hit him, he was already here. All right, then we are.

[B]

Oh, shit. Oh, dam.

[A]

So him, his wifey, then the stepson is six one and growing.

[E]

Everything.

[A]

Eating me out of house and home.

[C]

I bet he is.

[A]

I'm taking doggy bags from restaurants now. Yo, yo, pack all of this up. I'm treating that like Grandpa used to treat the dogs and the hogs, yo. The dogs and the whole shit.

[E]

Put it out there for him.

[A]

Put it in that pot.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And boy, when we bring this outside, it's lit anyway. Next to flip. Come on. Philadelphia's finest. Stop playing with him. Big M. Big Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, what's up, bro?

[D]

I'm good, man. Tired.

[A]

I'm recovering well, that's. When are you not? When are you not tired?

[D]

It's different. Just go outside. Tired.

[A]

It's funny. When I seen you on Sunday, the boss looked wide awake.

[D]

Yeah, she was.

[A]

Your wife is her, yo.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Your wife is really that man.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

For real. I'm definitely subbing to your Patriots. Yo, yo, y' all out there, please sub to Mark Lamar Hill's Patreon for the same reasons I am to see him get hold around. It's great.

[D]

Whatever it takes.

[A]

Brother Mark, how you doing, man?

[D]

I'm good, man. Real good.

[A]

Real good.

[D]

And thank you again for the. For the invite, man.

[A]

Word.

[D]

My wife told me to extend the congrats again.

[A]

Anytime, anytime.

[D]

It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure.

[A]

Thank you all for coming. Thank you all for coming. Pause.

[B]

Ready? Are you ready?

[A]

Are you ready? What's going on? Tell me what's going on. Simba's here. Wa is walking in the red. Oh, yeah. I'm down. That invest fest is golden. Down, big ish. Mr. Thousand Doors. And up. Our good brother Antoine is here. How you doing, man?

[E]

I'm great, sir.

[C]

Yourself?

[A]

Couldn't be better. Couldn't be better.

[B]

Where you was at last night?

[E]

My man had a birthday party.

[B]

I could tell. I could tell. I'll get into it later.

[E]

I stalked you.

[B]

I stalked you, boy.

[A]

Who you go with?

[E]

Myself.

[A]

That boy move around by himself.

[B]

Oh, boy. With a Delphi.

[A]

That nigga's like Batman. He do not have a. Hello, Master Bruce. He will not. He will not go out with a plus one boy on the dolo. A one seater. Yo, what's that

[C]

on the street?

[B]

That drive? Yeah, Come on.

[A]

Yeah. You know the one with the one, you might as well get a slingshot. Yeah, those are two Harley Davidson. Whatever you Virginia be driving on Harley Davidson. Oh, man. All right. Next to ish. Next to ish. Come on, man. What more can he say? Come on, man. You see the freeziest of them all, huh? Yeah.

[B]

Yo, you my.

[A]

Come on, stop. You gotta stop playing. When Freeze is outside, he that different and different energy.

[E]

Way different energy, bro.

[B]

You way different outside of here and here. You like a outside.

[A]

Like a herb. Like it is just like a non playable. That mean. But outside can't deny you Freeze.

[B]

I saw it. Come on, nigga. You don't want to with Freeze.

[A]

You know you a boss when your name on a draw.

[C]

Oh,

[E]

Like Head ass, man.

[A]

That's awesome. Sure, I like. Head ass is dope, man. Head ass is dope.

[E]

Head ass is dope, man.

[B]

Shout out to. Shout out to. I got to go to Parks too. Shout because r. I never been around him. She lit.

[D]

She.

[B]

She sa d Jay Z too. What the. I said, no, they. They too lit. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

[A]

I'm like.

[B]

I was watching.

[A]

I wish I was awake. She is so funny.

[B]

She's mad funny, son.

[C]

Cheers.

[D]

Cheers.

[C]

We had a blast.

[B]

Shout out to y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

I can see why y' all a perfect couple, Yo.

[C]

Thank you, y'. All.

[B]

Him and his wife and Corey. Cory is just some on some other shit, bro. I watched.

[E]

He keeps.

[B]

She was salsa dancing to Jay Z death present. I like the president's represent.

[C]

What the.

[B]

Why is he doing that? It me, I had to sit down.

[A]

I caught a headache. I'm gonna get a headache now, man. Jesus. Okay, so. Oh, yeah, Parks. Big Parks is here. Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savona here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. All right, Where y' all want to start day one?

[C]

Yeah, I missed day one. I went to Fetty Wap in Brooklyn, and that was incredible. I'm not going to dwell on that. There's a whole, whole run to go through. But Fetty Wap live incredible. Go do it if he comes to your town. Yeah, he did like an hour. Maybe a little over an hour. Fetty Wap has an amazing hour of music.

[A]

I would love to see that show.

[C]

Yeah, that show was incredible. Whole crowd was lit. I got mad acapella videos. All 2000 people screaming every word by Nate by heart. Damn, that show was great.

[A]

Great show. That's exactly how I Imagine a show to.

[E]

To go. He got seven to eight in a row.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

He getting ready to do it again, cuz, you know you're headlining summer jam.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When is summer jam again?

[E]

Next Friday.

[A]

Oh, I'm glad I asked. Glad I asked.

[E]

All right.

[A]

I want to be there for that fact. Yeah. I didn't go to the reasonable doubt show.

[D]

You missed one, man. That.

[A]

Oh. Mark went. Oh, yeah. Come on. We got all bases covered for y' all today.

[E]

What you did. All bases covered.

[A]

You still got it.

[D]

Day one, he tried that shit. I think going into day three, I would have said reasonable doubt show was gonna be the best one because of how everybody described day two, which I didn't see. But day one was perfect. First of all, it was easy to get in. It was smooth. You know what I mean? Like, it was. It was no problems. It started at a good time, and the show itself was amazing. Obviously, he came out before he came out. They. They showed on the screen the full video. Like Beyonce in the bleachers cutting his hair.

[C]

They showed us that one too.

[D]

They showed him when day three wasn't his co.

[B]

Cool.

[D]

But on day one, we didn't know what he was going to look like. And he came. So they show up with shave sitting there cutting his. And then he comes out with the. With the fitted Yankee on. Everybody lost it. And he.

[E]

He.

[D]

He came out with Beyonce to what's his name.

[C]

Yeah, that's fast forward for the people

[E]

that love that intro.

[C]

But after three hours of waiting, I don't need to see someone get a haircut.

[D]

That's how I felt on day three. I feel it was like. It's not a surprise no more. He been here two nights with. With a. With a Caesar and a Yankee.

[E]

And for the people who don't understand why it's a big deal, even in that video, it was always a thing that hov would let his hair grow while recording and cutting his hair symbolized. The album was done right. So that video was saying it was like a message in itself.

[D]

It could be. No, it could be.

[E]

Could be. I'm just. That's what it used to represent.

[A]

No, it ain't. It could be.

[C]

That's happening.

[A]

That's what it is. And if you were confused, Pharrell came out and told us that that's exactly what's going on. That's happening. But anyway, go ahead. Cause I wasn't there. I want to go in order.

[D]

I won't go long. The show was. It was an amazing show. Again, all the notes were hit, all the special guests were great. Again, coming out with Can't Knock the Hustle, we knew Mary wasn't gonna be there because she's. She's on doing her own show.

[E]

She had residency.

[D]

Yeah, she had residency, so. But Beyonce came out and did it.

[C]

That's a hell of a way to open the show.

[E]

It's nice.

[D]

Plan B. Yeah, exactly. Right?

[C]

And then that was good.

[D]

Yeah. Because in my worry about the Reasonable Doubt show, the reason why I preferred the Blueprint show at the time, in my mind was because I was like, this isn't a stadium out album. And I was worried that there'd be a lot of lulls, you know, with certain songs. But he. He made it work. He made it work by mixing in other songs that weren't on Reasonable Doubt and even some of the features, like, obviously, when you. You obviously Big can't be there, Right? But on Big's verses, he played other bad boy beats underneath other Big ver. Other big track beats. Thank you. Underneath it. So it just made it feel good, and it felt better than I thought it was going to. But every feature came out. Everybody who had a feature, except, well, Sauce Money, you know, was there and that could be there and killed it. Yeah.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Far.

[D]

Yeah, it was. It was a great. The energy was great. I think everybody was just hyping to be there, to feel hov in the building to be there. It felt like a reunion. It was dope. Nas was great. That shit looked fire when he came out for dead presidents 2. And then NAS did his own. You know, his own. His own. A couple of joints of his own. It was amazing. Who else was there?

[A]

But let's slow down a second because, you know, you talk fast. Yeah, let's go back to that. Beyonce coming in for Mary and then them doing it, and then segueing to the remix, and then her singing that whole. They need to sell that. That needs to be there. Needs to be.

[E]

He updated the album. It's now on streaming and everything. That was when they did the JZ30. And, you know, he was putting out a bunch of singles. That was one. Excuse me. Feeling it was first. And then after that, they did Can Knock the Hustle Fool's paradise remix, which is what you're speaking too.

[A]

That's featuring Beyonce.

[E]

No, not featuring B.

[A]

Okay, so you want version what she went up there and did over that music? Actually, we got to start with the music that might be the best band I ever heard during. During a hip hop Show.

[C]

Shout to 1500.

[D]

They killed it.

[E]

Adam Blackstone.

[A]

Adam Blackstone.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Adam Blackstone. 1500 or nothing. He curated. He just went and got the best of the best rehearsed, put them together and that was the best. That was the best music. Had I known that was happening. You go to night one. Yeah, yeah. You do what he's. You go to. If you know the band is doing that, you know Night one has Night one energy. You open with Beyonce.

[D]

Cool.

[A]

But state prop. Is there beans? Is there bleak? Is there like. Like Night one is for the Heads.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So humble pie on my face. Because I'm like. With all due respect to Jazz O, I'm not getting out my bed to come here. The. The evils. And I'm just. But that shit looked lit. The Nas Hov shit is some of the illest I've ever seen done during a show.

[D]

Yeah, it was perfect.

[A]

And that's before I. That's before you knew that that would be a continuous thing. Hov kind of mixing and matching verses and beats and. Because on day two, which we'll get to when Smith. When the Smith and Wesson beat dropped over, it switched into some. And then Smith. Boom, boom, boom. I was like a kid in a candy store. But it was on the blueprint night where everybody in here is not ahead. There's heads in here, but I don't expect everybody to know what the. Is going on.

[E]

Like a silent whistle to the head.

[A]

Yeah, but. But the Nas. The. The. The where I'm from take or whatever the was going on in the music. Cuz I don't remember right now. But yeah, yeah, let's find it. The different verses they were doing, that was some of the ill I ever seen. Both of them.

[C]

And they in at the Roots picnic. He did a lot of that too. As far as putting this verse on. This verse too, because there was a feature here.

[A]

Whatever, whatever.

[C]

So he's been practicing it, I guess would say.

[A]

And that takes so much skill.

[E]

It does.

[A]

It takes so much skill. Because when you perform in a dog, a lot of it is muscle memory. You're trying to remember words from songs that are 30 years old.

[E]

That's the impressive part to me right there. That part.

[A]

So to take a verse that don't go with its music and kind of remember it, project it and perform it live. He was doing a lot of technical shit up there.

[E]

That was amazing arrangement. Like the arrangement of that speaks to how much time they put in to

[A]

really put on a great show.

[C]

For sure.

[A]

Nah, it's true.

[E]

It's true.

[A]

Yeah, I wanted to.

[E]

It was.

[A]

It was New York state of mind

[E]

and New York state of mind. So their presidents came out with Nas. They did their presidents too. The world is yours. New York state of mind. And To Where I'm from Fire.

[A]

Nas sounded like butter on a biscuit. Over to Where I'm from Beat and hov sounded damn good. Over the New York State. I'm like, man, these should have rapped together more often. Something about this combo works.

[C]

Shocker.

[A]

Yeah, that. That was sick. Go ahead, Mark.

[D]

Yeah, and again, he mixes. Like for example, when he came out. Ain't no he didn't mix right in the. Excuse me, miss. You know what I'm saying? And so for people who, again, who weren't there for 96 but knew some of the bigger hits, he had the whole stadium 2 step it. You know what I'm saying? Saying. And that vibe and that switch up, back and forth made the whole. Made everything great. Also the visuals. A lot of times when you go to Jay Z shows, there's not a visual component.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He had a different artist do it. Somebody who worked with Beyonce before. And you could see every. Not so much on night three, but on night one and two, the visuals in the background also were a game changer.

[C]

Massive screen. Yeah, massive. That was huge.

[E]

That screen was crazy. Even the. Having the.

[A]

Even the projector on the field, that was flawed too. And the little screen. And the little screen, no matter where

[E]

you were, you were able to see they had side screens for the obstructed views, like the big ass screen. And then on the sides for the people who got the corner seats, you still had a screen.

[C]

That's dope.

[E]

Like they made sure no matter where you sat, if you couldn't get a good view of the stage, you were able to see what's going on. Yeah, smoke that.

[A]

And word got around town about what time he went on stage. Night one. I knew what time he went on stage. So cool. Wait, are we done with that one? Go ahead.

[D]

No, no, just two more quick things I thought was really dope. Feeling it. That's the Blue Ivy moment.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

A lot of people were not expecting that. Nobody was expecting it.

[E]

I wasn't expecting that.

[D]

Yeah, she came out on the piano and was playing while they did Feeling it, which I thought was dope. Some people don't know. She's been playing piano for a long time now. Self trained, Gray ear doesn't want to take lessons, he said, because she wants to be such an improvisational artist. But she came out and bodied it, man. The fans lost their mind with that.

[C]

That's fine.

[D]

I also like that moment where he did the Evils and switched into no Church in the Wild. It was just these moments where, like, the combos were things that you wouldn't think of, but when you think about it, you're like, oh, shit, that makes all the sense. Of course it makes sense.

[A]

Right?

[D]

Yeah. And people was losing it at every stage, man. It was dope. It was fire.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

No, his arrangement was Bar None.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he did an encore on that night, and he did about another, maybe, like, 40 minutes on an encore. And it got to the point where he was like, guru, just play something. I don't give a fuck what it is.

[E]

I know all these shits.

[A]

Play something.

[D]

And he was doing it from the dome, you know what I mean? Like, remembering his lyrics, you know what I mean? A couple times, he's like, no, that's for tomorrow. That's for tomorrow. Don't do that. You know what I mean? Cause that's a blueprint song. But I mean, he was. Guru was digging in the crates with some of this shit, and everybody lost their mind, man. It was a great show. I walked out of that show feeling like if I don't see nothing else.

[B]

You're satisfied?

[D]

I'm satisfied.

[E]

To the encore. You, you, you speak of. So you ended with New York State of Mind with Alicia Keys. And then the encore comes. You don't know Best of Me, Part 2. Blow the whistle La la la Beware of the boys Change the game, do it again. You, me, him, her rock boys. The winner is. PSA Niggas in Paris. Big Pimping as an encore. That's a show by itself.

[D]

That's absolutely Punjabi. MC came on. Niggas was like, God damn that shit. You know? But you ain't thinking about Seaside. Yeah. Reasonable Doubt show. I wasn't expecting to hear that.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, I like that. He switched it up from the other anniversary show he did for Reasonable doubt, which was 06.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Because they. He did. Literally, he came out, did Regrets and went. Worked his way up to Can Knock the Hustle, but didn't sprinkle anything else in. It was just those songs.

[D]

I saw that shit, and that's kind

[E]

of what I thought was gonna happen. That's why it wasn't one. Me neither.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

And then they came out and did an encore. So to mix in the new records to keep the energy up and then still give you Reasonable Doubt.

[D]

Nothing you can Say nothing you can say.

[E]

There's nothing you can say.

[C]

I'm tired. I ain't good. Well, I'm happy I went to Fetty Wap. But. Right. Night one was. I would. I would have been.

[A]

That was a real Parks kind of night.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was.

[A]

I should have. I wasn't doing. I ain't know that. We was really all jacking the. Yo, we going to all three. New York. Went to all three shows.

[E]

New York's energy has been insane for the last four months. I know that. Flew out here from other spots. 4.

[B]

All 3.

[A]

Show Mad flew in. Mad women flew in. It was a lot. It was a lot of women. Lot of women.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

I didn't.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Somebody sent to the group chat on Friday. Flip Friday. Somebody that was at that Friday show put it right in the group chat. Yo, yo, they out here.

[D]

I was walking outside. I went without my wife. So I was supposed to.

[A]

Busy texting about missing her.

[D]

Looking for my.

[B]

Yeah, I was walking outside like, man, shout out to Jay. He brought him out, looking around like, yo, he really brought. Say what you want. He bought him out. It was.

[D]

It was like. It was people our age, it was younger. It was a joint that, you know, was the. In 96. And she was coming down the street like she was still 96. I mean.

[A]

No, you right.

[D]

You know what I'm talking about, girl.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It was.

[B]

It was. It was.

[D]

It was our demo.

[A]

It was our demo.

[E]

It felt good, though. Yo, bro.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

That was the best feeling ever.

[E]

Think about this.

[A]

But that's what I'm gonna get to on night two.

[E]

I'm gonna get to it on night two. All of them ain't even get a chance to come. Cause Usher and Chris had a show in D.C. at the same night. So both shows is packed out. Half of the DC show jumped on a plane the next day and came to New York. That's insane, bro.

[B]

Yeah. One thing that I was admiring real quick before you get into. Into the next segment, was his stamina, him being on stage, breath control, all of that. That was amazing. I was just sitting there like, he ain't take a seat at all.

[A]

Big ass stage.

[E]

He just run out on that.

[B]

I'm like, this man is 50 something years old doing that. He sounds good. He sounds clear.

[A]

Well, that's one of the things that jumped out to me as well. How in shape he was. He was in shape.

[E]

Yeah, he was in shape.

[A]

Very, very in shape. I wasn't really giving a fuck about his hair do. Even though but you can see his arms, shoulders, See it.

[E]

Face was skinny.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

He looked like, prepared for a scuffle.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, why is HOV prepared for, like,

[C]

chill for 15 hours in three days?

[E]

You got to think about it. If you count roo picnic plus these three shows, this prepared for four different shows.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

In a very short time.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, that ain't easy. N Could it take a long time to prepare for one show that they just doing over and over and over and over? I'm giving y' all four completely different shows.

[C]

Facts.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

That is true at that age.

[A]

So night two. I didn't have any tickets to night two. But a good friend of mine, Karan. Shout out to Karan. Shout out to Karan. He had tickets that he wasn't able to make. So he was selling the tickets. So I said, oh, this makes perfect sense. I'll buy the tickets from Karan. Which were in section 119 or 118. I don't even think I ever been to the new Yankees Stadium.

[E]

That was my first time.

[A]

I've never been to the new Yankee

[E]

Stadium, even for baseball.

[B]

No, that's my first time there too.

[A]

No, I've been to the old Yankee Stadium and anything in the new Yankee Stadium I've sent my dad. I haven't physically gone there. It's cool to see when you're picking up your Bronx bitches and you driving by, you know, I mean, when you play, it's cool to. That's your benchmark. All right, the Yankee Stadium, it's right here. I gotta make this lap crazy. I left 10 minutes for Yankee Stadium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But I never been in there. But section 119. I buy the tickets from Karan even though they went on sale for cheaper than he was selling them. But that's my man. So who cares about all that? I buy the tickets and I figured because I have a suite the next day, I'll call ahead and say, hey, can I come in through some type of suite entrance? And then just get an escort to bring me where I gotta go and shout out to Mike, oh, none of this, none of my weekend is possible with. Without Mike, the gentleman who fucking was escorting me around in there. So we get a good parking pass and Mike comes out. But now I get there around, call it 815 ish.

[E]

You.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What do you mean?

[E]

I thought you'd have been in there like 6:45.

[A]

You don't play well, that's what I mean. I had heard by now that he's hitting that stage he went on at 9:15. So I got there at 8:15 thinking, you know, I'll give me a hot dog or something.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

And while we at it, Yankee Stadium hot dogs don't hold a candle to Madison Square Garden.

[C]

Yeah. The food in general was.

[E]

We didn't really get these.

[C]

Yeah. But anyway.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. The food was not great.

[E]

You know, I'll be eating all that. But I went to the Yankee game. That looked amazing.

[A]

Well, see, I love the food day three. But we'll get to. We'll get to that.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But the Hondo. No, you really need to step up your. Your hot dog if you want to have some cultural relics.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Yeah, they talking about some. Yeah, it wasn't stabber. It wasn't.

[B]

Check it out, though.

[A]

But anyway, so Mike is escorting us through this, but it's like, regular people tickets. So we going through the crowd and we just taking, like, long walks. And somebody told Mike that I'm a podcaster, which is true. True I am. But tonight.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm not just a fan. I'm a rapper.

[C]

Ah.

[A]

I was on this label when this album dropped.

[C]

That's true.

[D]

Ah.

[A]

This era that they talking about the people that's here, we identify differently.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, they don't. They may not know podcasts, but I'm all things. I'm all the things. Tonight is the point. So to say this guy's a podcaster might be a little misleading to the older white gentleman that's walking you through, like, pedestrian hood. Pedestrian walkways and shit. When I tell you this nigga's mind was blown at the chaos being caused, it almost turned into, like, panic for him. Like, hey, I don't. They told me you was this. But we gotta get you. We gotta get. Get you out of here. And then it scared me because I'm like, oh. And he taking us to regular people's seats. I said, mike, you gotta do something.

[E]

But that was one of the beauties too. Like, And. And just. Cause again, we watching it from the Gram.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yo, you saw stars dancing in the aisle with Joe Schmo. You know what I'm saying? Like, uninterrupted, just having a ball. Like, people's cool. They left. They cool at home for the whole show.

[A]

Yo, LeBron is. LeBron is here.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, everybody is here. You know why? We.

[D]

Everybody?

[E]

Yeah, everybody.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

It puts you. It puts your startup in perspective too, when you, like, you know, you seeing, like, who's in what. You know what I'm saying?

[E]

Everybody who made travel Arrangements. Arrangements from wherever to be here.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So Mike was kind enough to sell me the last box. He called it a suite. That's misleading. Of the last box that was available. 123. So it was a box. So it was closed off, but you could peek up and see who in there. Okay, so shout out to all the fans that was just around the bike. It was a lot of fans. Yeah, it was a lot of pie fans out there. A lot of Patronis. It was a lot of love out there. And it was so much love that the New York people know that I'm a recluse. Weird introvert. So I almost got one on tape. Like, while I'm trying to tape the show, somebody behind me like, Joe, buddy. Joe, buddy. Joe, buddy. And then I turn around and say, yo, what the fuck? But it's a New York show, so that's New Yorkers you talking to. So they New York their way outta. Yo, don't get an attitude, nigga. I love you, nigga. Know you don't like people. I don't give a. I want a picture. What's up? I'm a Patroni. Fix your face, Joe. Cuz like you end up taking the picture.

[D]

It's a vibe.

[A]

Now we going to get to it. So it's a vi.

[E]

Imagine what it's like stuck outside.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yo, you don't know what it was like outside. Yo.

[A]

Yo, you guys, we're not at the portion of the show where we hear from you. Parties, bums. Got it.

[B]

The freeze.

[A]

You idiot. Concert goers that can't keep track of the time, wanna be cute, make an appearance, fucking come casual.

[C]

Only go way before the main artist.

[A]

Y' all know New York got that real smug weed em attitude. But we'll get to that. Now's not the time for you bum losers that was stuck out there. And I'm gonna talk about it. Cause if you were left up to

[D]

me,

[A]

hoes come out there talking. Yo, we had to save lives. People would get trampled and stamped. I was like, if they died, they die. I mean, until I remember my mom was out there. Hey, yo, I come from the era where, yo, nigga, you late. You start hearing the music through the doors now. You know what you missed. That's your song on in there. But Travis Scott and that stupid Astro World shit fucked everything up. So now artists gotta act like we fucking gotta keep people alive. Like it's our fucking job. We gotta stop showing. Hey, that guy right there, make sure he's all right. It's so performative.

[D]

Yo, City College era.

[A]

It is.

[D]

Huh? You from the City College era. Remember Puff at the Junior.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

That is the era, though.

[D]

How many can we fit?

[B]

More.

[A]

Rest in peace.

[B]

Rest in peace.

[A]

If people died, man.

[D]

No, I'm not. Rest in peace and people pass. I'm just saying that's how promoters used to move.

[A]

No, they would.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Stampede rules and effect. Just don't be at the bottom of the pound. You better hold on to somebody.

[C]

Are you talking about.

[A]

Yes. You missed.

[D]

You missed it.

[A]

You outside, but we'll get to that. Where was I in the story? I was somewhere before I went on.

[D]

You were in the box.

[E]

You were saying about Bah Bah, Nikki, New York.

[A]

So the fans were. So the fans were absolutely amazing. Shout out to all the fans out there. Y' all was. So I'm looking around and that's what I mean. Like, I gained a little bit of understanding. Right? Like day two. All right, Jay Z. As if it wasn't clear before, for me, Jay Z is the best. But I'm gonna start saying to me, because I don't want to cause an argument with nobody.

[E]

It's not to you.

[A]

It's to me.

[E]

It is to me.

[A]

It's to me. That's cool.

[E]

It is, though.

[A]

That's cool. But when I say it, you gotta say it. I'm talking about from my brain, my experience, my record label days and trying to make a song and trying to tour, and coming from the era where they wouldn't let an artist do certain things to him being the president, to him doing the Samsung shit, all of the scams and loopholes. And he did it, yo.

[E]

He did.

[A]

He is the best. Bar none to me. As hip hop grows and it changes, I'm clear to this niggas that Drake is the best to a salute to y'. All. And whatever metric y' all are looking from, it's niggas where Kendrick is. There's no argument for me. For me, him and the people that he brought out. Not the artists, not the artists, the crowd. That was us. Yeah, it was. It was in. It was symbolic of somebody who has spent their entire career speaking directly to culture, about culture and for culture and for culture, yo.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And that part has been lost. But when you look around in there and see the people that are there, the way that they drop dressed, the way that they talk, the way that they speak, like, listen, The Drake shows is fire. But you look around in that crowd, it's gonna look a little different on night two. When I looked around, I saw sprinkles of white people.

[B]

I did too.

[A]

Like heads like niggas that worked at raucous. Like the label. Label niggas. Rob Markman.

[D]

What up?

[A]

I seen Rob Markman, Knight 2. I seen Mike Haran. Mike Haran, Big Mike. Mike just want to tell me he's like. I said mike. Oh, he said Marshall. He said, hey, your boy is here. Said my boy who? I got so many boys here, Marshall's here.

[C]

I said, oh, that makes sense. I seen Paul at prem show on. I said, oh, Thursday, Thursday.

[A]

I said that shit was a fan.

[E]

You get your writing Blue Chat Marshall.

[A]

I'm sitting with the fans and I'm fanned out. But I'm going to the blueprint show to be a fan. This is my. I'm with my kin folk now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So the show start and I'm fanned out. So sorry. Rapper hands is back. Oh yeah, facts. Rapper Hands is back. And what I noticed as I looked around, yo, he could have played any song in there. I would have known every word. Yeah, bro, he could have played early this morning lyrical exercise. Any song. He would have pulled out of Punjabi mc. I would have known every last word of it.

[E]

Yo. Not what I saw was the 46 year old 6 inch stiletto baddies would have known every word too.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

So when you talking about what he did and who he brought out, like dog, the Wall street chicks, the real corporate exec chicks was in there with Timberlands on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

With yankee jerseys and Timberlands on. Like that shit was, was amazing to watch.

[A]

So now I'm moving with my rapping hands, but my rapping hands is different. Cause I used to rap. So it looked different from the Spanish nigga from the Bronx that was in front of me doing the rapper hands too. Like it looked so different. I had to chill because it looked like a nigga that like feel like he performing or want to perform and got that. And I'm looking at my girl.

[C]

Why is it the Jay Z?

[A]

It's a funny thing. It's a whole funny segment to me alone. My girl never seen rapper me.

[C]

Oh, that's true, that's true.

[A]

She's never seen that bop. She's only ever seen pop. Yeah. And it is a different bop.

[C]

It is for sure.

[A]

So she looking at me with like this glimmer in her eye, like a twinkle, like it was, it was making me feel awkward, like so game you like me again?

[C]

You know I impress you again?

[B]

No.

[A]

So when I sit down, she's like, she's looking at me with this twinkling eye, and she's like, bae.

[B]

Bae.

[A]

She man in love. Bae. Tell the truth. You don't think about it sometimes. Bae. You don't miss it. You don't miss it. My song was A Mama Loves Me. It's all. She's like, tom, you don't ever get the urge to just hit the stage again. Yeah, I'm sitting there, I feel like Ralph Cranon. Like, dog,

[E]

you speak to who he brought out. You know who? I. I really. I ain't gonna say feel bad for cuz y' all subscribe to this, but everybody with this pick a side culture. Yeah, bro, the who, you know, they wanted to be there.

[C]

Uhhuh.

[E]

Pick a side. I can't show up here it is. Some heads.

[C]

Some goofy.

[E]

It's some heads that's out there. There that had to miss it.

[D]

Some goofy shit.

[A]

Like goofs.

[D]

Goof.

[A]

Like some goof. Goofy what that pig aside. That is Whack that hella goo. No, but Ice is absolutely right. So M. Comes out. Kills. Well, Slick Rick comes out first. Yeah, dog, I'm.

[B]

Listen, yo, chill out. Chill out. I slap the out of you. You talking about Slick like that.

[C]

Oh, don't. Yeah, there'll be no set bricks. I better just go ahead and cut that right out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, here we go. Because the saving grace for me in that moment was Rory. Yo, thank God, yo. Thank God. There's a nigga in here with my. That totally understands my sense of humor. Somebody's going to hear what I have to say about Slick Rick right now.

[D]

Right to the text.

[A]

Yo, he opens with the rulers back. Cool. We love the rulers back. Then Slick Rick comes out looking, like, amazing looking. Like that chain he got on the outfit. He's killing that. But Slick Rick, I don't know if it was his mic. I don't know if he was excited. I don't know if it was his breath control. It wasn't the greatest performance vocally.

[C]

Slick Rick, it seems like there was a lot of that with guests.

[B]

To be fair, they're not Jay. Yo.

[C]

And I was trying to explain to someone on Twitter, but then I stopped. Cause you can't explain shit. Shit on Twitter. Like, talk about Tiana, which we'll get to. It's like, bro, if you can't hear yourself, it's really fucking hard to perform.

[A]

That's why. So I'm gonna keep it cool with. With Slick Rick. But at some point, it's like, hey, with all due respect, OG no he

[C]

still puts out a good show, so it had to have been something.

[A]

I've seen him recently, but just tonight, in this moment, off of the rulers. See, because unlike people had a lot to say about all of the features, all of the guest artists that came out on night one and night three. Yeah, me, I'll be honest with you. I was only. I was only outside side to see one person. Martial master Jay Z, I didn't care about. So Slick Rick. Awesome. Love him. Great. Marshall came out. That was great. He's such a technical mastermind on that stage.

[C]

His ain't gonna be up, so.

[A]

Yeah, his ain't.

[C]

His ain't gonna be up.

[D]

He gonna get the Beyonce mic.

[A]

The Beyonce mic and the Beyonce people controlling the mic. Walk around with him just daily, just in case. I feel like he don't play with

[D]

none of that stuff.

[E]

I know my.

[A]

He got his own special mic. It has his special preamps and EQs. And during Renegade, J Mike sounded off. I saw Jay kind of looking like he was struggling with the in ear a little bit during renegade and a bad time for that to happen with all of the stories that we've gotten about Jay and Marshall on Renegade. So now here come m out who we could hear per. Since I'm in the position to talk to you kids in the Listen, I ain't a politician, but I kick in Yankees Stadium. Nah, he gotta chill out. Somebody throw something at him, he gotta relax a little bit. So they killed that. And they did the same thing where em is rapping over a JB and hov is rapping over like that was. They killed. They killed that.

[C]

That's dope.

[A]

They killed that. So we got the medley again. If Pharrell comes out, he smoked it. Yeah. And then the show kind of was over. There was no, no encore. And he's sitting there on the stage saying, yo, y', all, my last song is coming up and I'm letting y' all know, cuz day two did have a chill vibe like. Like night one was crazy and I know night three is going to be crazy, so I'm gonna kind of just coast through.

[C]

In fairness, he's done the Reasonable Doubt shit before, so he had to do something extra to make this worth it to those that have seen it. He's never done Blueprint live, so he not saying that he should have chilled, but he had a little room for grace there.

[A]

I feel like Q Tip didn't come out. No. Well, not while I was there. Oh, I was tough for girls, girls, girls.

[D]

That's why I was okay.

[E]

No okay.

[D]

That's what I was expecting.

[E]

No qt. His encore set was the Pharrell shit because he finishes with Empire State of Mind. That's the goodbye. I'm New York Yankees, all of that. I do the Frank Sinatra shit. I go in to do the record. Now the encore is the Pharrell. I in with niggas in Paris, Big pimping.

[B]

All that.

[E]

Of that. That.

[A]

Well, because of everything I heard that went on at night one while he's on stage saying, yo, this is my last song. It's my last song. I'm thinking he lying, right?

[E]

It was a much shorter set.

[A]

So I'm still. I'm sitting. I ain't moving. I'mma catch all this. And he showing up, said, thank you, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Peace, and left. It was a 90 minute show. Wow. Damn. This was on the T with this. And now I'm hitting the exit with everybody. It took me about an hour to get off that block.

[C]

I bet it was. Well, day three was crazy.

[A]

Yeah, it took me an hour to get off that block. So now when we get to day three, I'm like, all right, I want to go earlier. I don't want to go at 8:15. I want to be there at 7, cuz I want to get merch. I want to relax. I don't want to feel rushed. I don't know where I'm going in this building. I want to chill.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I leave earlier, get there and stuff. 7:15 and there's no crowd outside. Smoothest entry ever. And I'm like, this is odd. This show is starting in about two hours.

[C]

I got there about 7:30 and it was. Fucking crowd outside.

[E]

Damn, that fast.

[C]

That fast.

[A]

Yeah, I walked in smooth as ever. Now. I did see my escort Mike out there again and he was helpful. I went with different escort. So now, yeah, different escort than I'm used to.

[D]

Different mic. Not Michelle O.

[A]

And on this day, when I went in, it was a different experience. This is the suite that I had paid for in advance. So we go up a little elevator, we go through a private sector now. Now I don't see no fans. Now it's just Main Street.

[B]

You good?

[A]

You good. Now, Robin Lopez,

[C]

520 boys.

[A]

Oh, shit. For rep. My girl got such a

[D]

kick out of that. What happened?

[A]

My girl think I just be rushing everywhere. She know I hate all that celebrity shit. So. But. So we walk and we gotta make a turn through the. The private. Whatever it is. Security checkpoint. So I go, but pharrell's right there. So I walk by, he's like, joe, I heard you, nigga.

[C]

You dumped Pharrell.

[A]

You dump Pharrell. No, I didn't dub Pharrell. But when he said j Joe and I turn around and seen Pharrell instantly, I thought all the. I've been talking, I'm like, see? And this is exactly why I just need to be with the fans disappeared and the come out cuz now. So I go over to Pharrell. I give him a big hug.

[E]

I bet he say, yo, it's good. Warm embrace.

[A]

Good to see you. How you doing, man? I'm like, pharrell, man, you killed it last night. Killing it, man. One of the best. Yo, you want such a run, Yo,

[B]

you see me today?

[A]

I'm repping, dog. Yo, listen, I'm rapping. Pharrell is such a sweetheart.

[C]

Did you ask him for the hat?

[A]

Huh?

[C]

Did you ask him for the hat?

[A]

No. And as soon as I turned around, my girl said, did you ask him for the hat? I said, no, I didn't ask him for that. But so now we. And she. We walking down the hallways. Nice up there this week. It's this sweet. We walking. It's security. It's quiet. It smelled like a different fragrance up here. It ain't a fan in sight. It's beautiful. Women just going back and forth. It's AC feeling good. And they take us to the suite, whatever suite. It was 48. All the food that I ordered was there fucking sandwiches. And very different from the glizzy I had the night before with the hamburger that. Yeah, yikes. So this food. Y' all didn't see that food? So this food, I was like, all right, some real food, some seeds. I'm here early. D. Nice is spinning. Yeah, my people are coming. Oh, we bout to have a time. And the weight gain began. Now it begins. Which everybody was cool. D Knights was killing. It was a good vibe out there. And when 9:15 came, when everybody know that this nigga is supposed to be on the stage page nothing.

[E]

What time? Let me ask you what. What time did y' all get any type of announcement that. Anything that, hey, there's a. There's something going on, I would guess.

[C]

Yeah, it was after cuz they did D. Nice did his set and then they started playing breaks that people use for records, right? Which they did like twice. And then after that, they came doing a staticky ass mic.

[A]

It's just breaking up.

[C]

Like, what the result outside. And, well, you know.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Very vague.

[A]

No, no time.

[C]

Nothing.

[E]

Like we time.

[C]

So this is where we started taking

[E]

bets on if the show was gonna happen.

[C]

Yeah, no, when the show was gonna happen, because we had a feeling it was still gonna happen. Yankees and Jay Z, they're gonna push this.

[D]

Some people were tweeting, though, I'm in here.

[A]

I know it's not gonna be a shot. Guarantee I'm not gonna hold you.

[E]

Yo, so we, we, we. We timed it. Cuz I was like, I'm not driving over there. I'm not even worried about no Uber. We gonna catch the train. Which was fire, because you on a train going to Yankee with nothing but whole fans.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[E]

So it was. It was.

[C]

It was an experience.

[E]

It was fire.

[C]

Yeah. We took the train up.

[E]

We was like, yo, we're gonna. We planned to get there around 8:15.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Ended up getting at 8:30. Soon we walk out. It looked weird because it's like. It's mad people more than people. But there was no lines. That's what made it weird.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Usually you'll see lines. You could tell what's going on. There was no lines by the door.

[B]

He's right.

[E]

So we, we walk out, we write that Gate C. I'm sorry, Gate 6. Excuse me, but the shutters is down. Or the gates was closed. So I'm like, all right, that's weird. I found a guy that would have. With a blue shirt. Where's the sweet entrance? Go around the corner.

[A]

Yeah, we walk.

[E]

It's just a sea of people. So you getting around and you noticing every gate is closed, but nobody has no information. You see people running back and forth like the, The. The communication from whatever the issue was to outside was bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And that's what a lot of people.

[A]

And the communication was bad on the inside as well.

[E]

Okay, it was bad. It was to the point where they

[A]

did a very poor job in letting people know what was going on for real.

[C]

Even when we got to the. The suite entrance, the line was maybe three or four people deep this way. And then who knows how long. Okay. So we couldn't even find how to get into the suite.

[D]

Right.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? The suite entrance. So it was bad from Rip.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Let me tell you something, man. First, first of all, niggas, yo, Flip,

[E]

why you on the line?

[B]

I'm trying to duck my head.

[C]

They would say the same shit. You ain't got tickets.

[A]

You ain't got tickets.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why you on the line? That's one, two people. Look, now I'm frustrated. So Excuse me. To anybody that I might have came, you know, mean across, I apologize. But I'm frustrated. I'm on this line. People making mad noise, they're touching me. They excited, cool. But I'm just trying to say like, okay, I missed night two. Cause he gave me the tickets late. I came outside and I was outside.

[D]

You definitely sent tickets?

[A]

Oh yeah. Cause I sent Flip a ticket for night two. I totally forgot that part.

[C]

I took a day. I was gonna.

[A]

I was trying to buy TikTok.

[E]

He was like, Yo, I got two joints I'm not using Showtime. It was like 8:30.

[A]

But that's when I got the box.

[D]

I never know why I was tell

[C]

I was trying to buy tickets all day. Them shits is like two, three grand to get there. And so I was like, I'm gonna take a nap. I'm tired anyway from the three nights of going out. And then I wake up with Joe saying, hey, oh, I got extra tickets. I'm like.

[B]

So I'm outside and then, and then I see 2. 2. Well, one of the cops was a fan of the show because she showed me a picture she took Joe Button named Marquez and Valentin. They were cool. I was standing there for a while. So people kept trying to rush. They had a little gate. People kept trying to slide through there. Now I'm staying right here, being cool with the cops. Cause I'm like your typical. Yeah, when it opens, they gonna let me through. But people just kept rushing through and filling it up. And everybody was like, do not rush, do not rush' cause they were blocking the door. Then I see Rashar. So Rashad telling me like, yo, the sweet entry right here, yo, Flip, come on. But I call Rashad Troy by mistakes. I keep calling him Troy. He don't look like a Rashad. He like a Troy. So Rashad get me. So me and Rashad is on the line, the sweet line. Cause now they starting. They opened up that sweet part. Yeah, I guess Rihanna and Rocky went through or whatever, however that happened. So they opening it up and now they're letting people through. So Rashad like, come here, Flip. So I'm there with him. So now we go to the front. They ask Rashaud, who you with? Look, cuz he looked right past me and said, I went up. I, I'mma violate this when I get inside. So cuz I called you Troy. We was just in here together talking for mad love on the line. Me and you and this old school. And then now when they ask you at the front, who you hit, you

[D]

Know what I mean?

[A]

See, I even love that. I love that those old school rules are in effect.

[B]

So. So he did that.

[A]

You find out who you fly with at the. At the door of the velvet rope in front of the club.

[E]

Funny thing about that. So you. So I text. I text Joe. I'm like, yo, did the show start yet? He was like, nah. I'm like, nigga, it's locked down out here. Like, we walked all the way around. There's no entrance is open. He goes, damn, yo, my mom's is out there. Can you find her? It gotta be 12 to 15,000 people outside. I'm not exaggerating.

[A]

I said, can you call her?

[E]

So I call. I called Ms. Faye. I'm like, yo, wait. I'm telling her where I'm at. I got by now. I done found toy. She almost got pressed, like, trampled at gate, too. I find her. We come back. We at the suite entrance, but the doors is closed, the lights is out. It's nothing happening. So I'm like, yo, I gotta go get Joe Mom's. I go. I go out in the street. I find them. We come back to the section. We stand here trying to chill out. And the whole. Now everybody's coming over here. But again, I'm walking back and forth. Yeah, Ice, yo, what you doing?

[B]

Yo, you ain't got no ticket, yo.

[E]

Like your family.

[D]

Nasty. That's nasty.

[A]

I saw Deuce McBride out there online about to get trampled.

[B]

It was a lot of people.

[A]

I don't know if I believe whatever story they came up with.

[E]

No, I do. I do.

[C]

I don't.

[E]

I saw a couple like that one. Now, what I think happened, I think

[B]

Jay was waiting for a certain artist.

[E]

I don't think so. I think what. What I think happened. Rihanna came late, so somebody. Yeah, somebody. Somebody put one of the moves. And I've been the recipient of this move where a open that side door and let you through. And it looked like caught the door because that. That scene is two clips running around. But the one where everybody's busting through the gate, there's no metal detectors there, which means that gate wasn't supposed to be open right there. When you look at it like, you know, normally as soon as you go into the gate, there's metal detectors and is set up. Unless it's a closed entrance or a closed side of an entrance. Somebody bust that door to let their mans in. Yo, yo, all, yo, come meet me. Meet me at this side door right here. I got you. And when somebody seen that Door open.

[A]

They shut the door.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And now 2, 300 people come.

[A]

Well, smoking mirrors.

[E]

You think?

[D]

Smoking mirrors.

[A]

Smoking mirrors. It's a trick. Let me tell you something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We are in the Bronx. We are in New York York.

[E]

Yankee Stadium.

[A]

I've been locked up Yankee Stadium. I've been locked up at at least three of the Bronx jails. I've been to the Bronx courthouse. If there's one district where if they want to get it under control, they can in a hurry, it's the Bronx cops.

[E]

I'm not saying that.

[A]

And I do think that the event, from my perspective, looked a little understaffed for it to be Jay Z. It did seem to be understaffed, but I didn't know if it was that or if all the staff. Staff was with all of the celebrities.

[C]

A little bit of both, I'm sure.

[E]

Joe, check it out though. If that what I. If what I said happens and you get a hundred or so people just bust through a gate and running in the Bronx, now, it's a security breach. It's a security breach because one of the people that we was with was, was talking to somebody that work at Roc Nation on text, trying to do the same. Yo, can you get me in? They like, yo, the place, the building is on lockdown. Nobody's allowed in or out. And they was like, it's at the point where they're making the artists sign waivers if you're gonna perform. Because a bunch of people got in that we couldn't search. So now if you're gonna perform, you gotta sign a waiver saying that we hold. We, if some pop off in here, we not liable.

[A]

It's just not a five hour issue. I'm not saying what you're saying.

[E]

But now we got work drawn up. You got to get all of that that they made. And it could be a five hour issue because we also trying to do certain. Do security sweeps.

[C]

And.

[D]

And what the officer told me was what part of it was understaffed issue. They, they didn't have the capacity to manage inside and outside at the same time. Everybody who's outside would go inside and all that police force and security would be inside for the show. But because of the issue, they were stretched between the two and they couldn't manage the two.

[E]

That makes sense.

[D]

And they said once they bum rush the show. The other concern was if they start the show on time and it's 10,000 people outside, it's over. That's gonna make people bum rush again.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

Cause they gonna hear the Music going. And so they were a little worried about that. Cause I got there right about 10 o', clock, shout out to my wife.

[A]

And I'm. So why can't they come to a. Like, what is up with them, Joe?

[E]

I said to my wife, it's in their DNA.

[D]

I could see it two days ahead of time. And I could see all the excuses. So I said, you know what? I'm going to take my son all day. I'm going to take your mother to church. I'm going do everything.

[A]

All of the things.

[D]

Everything. She didn't leave the house that day,

[E]

or her only job was to get.

[A]

Get ready.

[D]

There was one job. I said, it's. I'm pretty gentle. You say, whatever, tomato, tomato. I said, hey, listen, it's really important to me that you're in the car by 6:30, which for me meant 7.

[E]

Right? That's extra early. You gave.

[D]

You threw some. You threw some time into the.

[C]

I did the same thing. Thank God for Rim.

[A]

She did.

[C]

She did. Good.

[D]

Good. I get home at 6:30. She's folding clothes. Not dressed, just folding clothes.

[A]

Women don't move with urgency.

[D]

No.

[E]

They don't observe time. Like it don't exist to them. It's not real. They don't even think about time. Like you'll tell them, like, shout out to my baby, I love you, but I have to literally be, yo, we got this amount of time left. We got this left.

[C]

Why are you rushing me?

[E]

Why you rushing me? Nah, she. We had the conversation.

[A]

She get it. All right. Since we shitting on our girls night, two is when I had to talk like, okay, that whole just you need an hour before time thing, that's dead, man.

[D]

Stop saying that shit.

[A]

That's dead. While we live together. Like that shit is triggering. I am. You are not gonna be the destroyer. You can't manage the time, anything. Time.

[E]

That's it.

[A]

While we live together. Trust me. But an hour. An hour don't do nothing for you.

[E]

Nothing.

[D]

Why do they all say hour?

[A]

Oh, I got. It was my hair. And tomorrow I'm just wearing a hat and. Well, it won't be with an hour on the shot clock. Nope, that ain't happening.

[E]

I. I start off no. When we got to be somewhere, when we have to leave the house.

[A]

I'm.

[E]

Y' all know how I am with punctuality. It's important to me.

[A]

How are you with punctuality?

[E]

Y' all know, cuz you said be here 10:30. I was here.

[A]

The only one too.

[E]

I'm Just. I don't speak for nobody else.

[A]

That's why I can't find.

[B]

Freeze.

[E]

You watch your mouth.

[A]

You wasn't up here at 10:30.

[E]

I walked. I've signed the book right behind ice.

[A]

What is. Yo, what are you just believe your own.

[D]

He was. He was close to time. He was close to time.

[A]

Gotta do your thing. Mark was late.

[D]

I signed in at 10:29 and walked in this room at 10:31.

[A]

Yeah, why y' all think I care about the signing time? No, no, I care about the time we lock eyes.

[D]

My point is we was all anyway

[A]

in the vicinity of on time time.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, you were saying exactly what I was saying.

[E]

No, I was just saying I. I start off at three hours.

[D]

I thought I was doing start.

[E]

Yo, it's time. Time to start getting ready, getting showers. Start doing what you got to do. I'm on. I'm. I'm time managing you and I.

[D]

The driver was there. I had a babysitter come early.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

All this and they still dropped the.

[D]

I went upstairs to check on it. With that 15 minute grand, there were no clothes in sight. Makeup. She's putting on makeup. I was like, we're not getting.

[A]

And there's no way you can make the I'm here just to check on your status look like you not there to check on it. I'm standing there like, see, you gotta just rip that bandaid off, bro.

[E]

Rip that band aid off. And then going forward, they know what it is.

[C]

There should be a Jay Z is like, dude, fucking Christmas.

[D]

Because normally when I go up there and be like, yo, what the. It's like, well, I had to do this. I had to do this or don't. She was like, I need 15 more

[C]

minutes, which is an hour.

[D]

And that language is my bad.

[B]

That was nice.

[D]

That's wife of my bad.

[E]

I know, I know.

[D]

An hour later, we get into the car. So I don't get into the car at 8 o'. Clock.

[A]

All right. We do have a whole nother night to get to you.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[D]

This is night 9:45. It's a nine. It's a. It took meetings 9:45 to eat because the highway was crazy now because all we didn't get to the show to about 9:45.

[E]

That's why I want to drive or Uber right there.

[D]

And the show hadn't started yet. And of course my wife said, see, aren't you glad we didn't get there early?

[E]

See, that pissed you off, Nigga, you came out the Sunroof.

[D]

I was about to. So we went. We wish. I went straight to the. Well, the suite entrance and the VIP entrance. All that shit is all around the side of the building. And we got there and Joe texted me, you good? I thought you were being passive aggressive. Impressive. Like, why are you so late? Yeah, I wasn't, because I didn't know what. I didn't know what had happened yet. And then they told me, like, all the shit we've been talking about building was locked down. So I went to the VIP and was like, can I go in? And they was like, nobody can get it in or out. I was like, I'm not waiting out here. This 10 o'. Clock. Then one of the New York Yankees walked up. I don't know who he is, but he's black, he was speaking Spanish and he had big muscles. The cops lost their minds for him and they opened some special doors for him. And I just follow him like a.

[A]

Like a smart move.

[C]

Smart.

[D]

Yeah. Cuz the cop was like. He said, where you going? I'm going in. He said, he's famous. I said, so am I. He said, I don't know who you are. And I was about to respond. My wife. He's like, just. Just him. Just go. But shout out to Officer Perez, who got me.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

There you go.

[D]

He looked out, Officer Perez looked out. But then we got in, we got upstairs. I. I didn't realize everything that was going on, you know, I mean, I would have helped you. I would help your mom at least.

[A]

Well, let's pay bills.

[C]

Let's do that.

[E]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[A]

And let's come back, all right. With more Jay Z. Don't touch that.

[E]

Come on, y'.

[A]

All. Don't. Don't hit that 15 second. Don't hit that 15 second skip. Right after we pay these bills.

[E]

More Jay Z.

[A]

More Jay Z.

[D]

They can hit the 50. We still gonna be talking.

[C]

Get the 15 minute skip, right?

[A]

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[E]

Seriously, like, I was rounding. I was like, yo, listen, yo, by, like, I want to say 10:20, 10:30. Ish. I was like, yo, dog, I don't even think this show's happening. We start, you see people leaving out the crowd. Yo, the other crazy shit that was what's happening and just talking to people around, their phones died from being out there so long. But your tickets on your phone being birds. Oh, but I'm saying your tickets is on your phone.

[A]

Well, you should have been on 100 when you showed up.

[E]

Oh, I agree.

[A]

Y', all.

[E]

Y' all birds and dots got old phones. The battery don't last when you get

[C]

in them big crowds some, the battery be going quicker because the service is up.

[E]

So it's trying harder. Yeah, Phones was dying. Like, damn, what we gonna do? I seen a lot of people leave that was like, my phone died. I'm gonna go try to get a charger somewhere.

[A]

Yeah, but we done hearing for from y' all people that Was outside now. Now we. Now we. We inside.

[E]

Oh, y' all was inside doing nothing. So we telling you about some other.

[D]

At least there was food and alcohol inside.

[C]

That's true.

[E]

It was food and alcohol outside, too.

[A]

And Comfort had the bar outside. It was a chair chair inside. Beautiful people to look. It was a lot going on on the inside. It was a vibe inside. Should have been there. That chicken you had, man, listen, they. That food was good. If. Listen, I had the food day two. That food day in there, the shrimp, them sandwiches was crazy. I had a great time. I was eating anything in there. I was eating everything in there. But now. That's not what I'm saying. Freeze. I'm saying I almost hit DJ premiere to. To send me Derek Jeter's number. I'm saying I was trying to talk to Yankee Brass, Mariano Rivera.

[E]

Give me a answer.

[A]

Yeah, I was looking for answers, cuz they wasn't announcing nothing. So I'm in my phone, I'm hitting my escort, I'm like, yo, seriously, what time does this show start? And is this show still happening? It looked to me like not only is it not gonna happen, but y' all know that. And y' all are dealing with all these people inside clashing with all those people outside, and y' all already understaffed, so y' all gonna have a big problem.

[E]

That was what we thought, that it wasn't happening. And they were trying to wait for more people to leave on their own before they announced it. So it don't be as big as a mob out there.

[A]

The only reason I didn't leave is because I assumed a mob to be out there, so I was gonna have a hard time getting out of that block anyway. And sure enough, right when I hit him, I done took two and three naps. Right when I hit homeboy Mike. Shout out to Mike and say, yo, how do I exit this building? Immediately I'm done. The show starts, and now the fun starts. Starts, yeah, cuz now my HOV Reverence is out the window. And now you got a critic. You want to start the show five hours later? Less critique, less pod. I was rapper fan Joe before. I'm grumpy and sleepy. And now, now I don't know who's in the suite for real. I don't know when y' all got there. I don't know when nobody.

[E]

I'm like, what the.

[A]

I'm looking around and now I'm pissed. Cause who the Is some of these. No, no, no, no, no. On the fresh wake up at the show.

[E]

That's.

[A]

I need to be.

[C]

You went to sleep.

[A]

It's just y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

I wake up and it's bad.

[B]

Yo, shot.

[D]

See?

[A]

Elvia. Elvia, I love you.

[B]

I'm looking at.

[A]

Kyle was here. I'm like a bunch of people that. My mom pulled a move. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. But, hey, you want to play now? You get grumpy, Joe, you had your notes out, so you seen me, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I ain't playing with him. Hey, I'm gonna stay here. And now I'm working. And that didn't bode well for none of the people that came out there. Cause first now you got Tiana, who

[E]

comes out before you start.

[A]

Go ahead. I was about to get my bag.

[E]

I'll let you.

[A]

Lucky boy. You see it coming up.

[E]

Check it out. They announced the doors open. They tell us, go to door four. They'll get y' all in.

[A]

We going in.

[D]

Listen, let the poor people talk.

[B]

Free.

[E]

Let the poor people talk. God damn it. It was more of us outside than inside. I'm right at the door, and you hear Dynasty intro start. So the whole crowd is now pushing the door. So now we running. We get in, we run in. Dynasty intro. I missed the first three records night, which was Dynasty intro.

[D]

A great intro.

[C]

Once. Yeah. Once that came on, I was like,

[D]

all right, but forgive you.

[A]

I'm just.

[E]

I'm just trying to give some props to that fire. He don't do that. You get what I'm saying?

[C]

And the band hooked that up, too.

[A]

Yeah, but go ahead.

[E]

Y.

[A]

Don't interrupt me again.

[E]

I have to. I have to get that part out. Because that's important. We got to highlight that. The intro.

[A]

No, I'm not. I'm not highlighting nothing. Where he tried to calm me down. Don't come in and try to make me piece it up with hov now, cuz. It's too late. Damage is done.

[E]

It's up already.

[A]

Dynasty came on, and I was chilling. I don't normally hear that.

[E]

That's my point. That's my point.

[A]

Dynasty.

[B]

I watched you get up.

[E]

I heard you say get up.

[A]

I stood up.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I was behind you.

[B]

Was that. You said, nigga, you was doing this.

[A]

You got up. You said, hold up, Mark. That's the other thing. I'm glad that you said that and reminded me, yo, I'm as whole venger as they come, but they are boundaries.

[B]

You're not doing this.

[C]

You gotta throw up.

[A]

The diamonds on night two. That nigga looked in the audience and said, yo, throw your diamonds in the sky like this and wave em up and down. No, you can't do it on command. I'm sorry, yo, you can't do it on command. I'm not never doing that. I got signed to Def Jam and was forced to compete with all these diamond selling artists. No, I'm never putting my diamond in the air, but the whole rest of the crowd did. That's when I knew I was different. Like, I love this nigga and have a deep reverence for him. Some shit we just noticed going to do. Yo, I can't do the thing like this. And do I. I can't. Joe, Joe. I got my father's pride. Yo, throw up a diamond. Ice is fanned out. Ice is. His middle name is fan.

[B]

You know, he did do nothing. I was sitting back, taking notes and observing. I was watching everybody tweeting. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I saw. Listen, when the Dynasty came out, I saw. I watched Joe get up and it was like this. I saw him. I said, look at the stupid.

[A]

Now I zone that. Now I'm back in my zone. Now I'm back in my. I'm back in my. I don't know who these people in my suite are. I don't know what time it is. And I'm tired and ready to go. You better have tapped into whatever rapper energy I got in my soul left. And the Dynasty did that. He smoked that.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

Back to critic time. Then Tiana comes out for Can't Knock the Hustle, which I'm glad that this is going on, cuz I missed night one.

[E]

Right, right.

[A]

And for most. For the most part, night three is like night one and night two just merged with a couple of treats in between. But Tiana comes out and there's something wrong with her mic and her. And we can't.

[D]

It's both.

[A]

And we can't really hear her. And on night one, Beyonce came out and did all this. With all due respect, Beyonce is one of the top performers ever. Ever and ever. Yeah, it's not. Not fair.

[E]

Nope.

[A]

But Tiana looked great. It was nice to see her. You know, she's a friend of the show. But not when I just woke up and I've been sitting here for five hours. Sorry. Gonna need more than that, Sean.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, that didn't do it. And right when I was talking, it's like he must have heard me. Then Jeezy came out. No, no, you skipped it. Who?

[E]

Jermaine Dupri. Was next that was happy about that.

[A]

Money in the thing was next. Now we cooking. We cook. Jermaine Dupree had his Atlanta hoodie on with his Atlanta hat on.

[C]

Mike was on.

[A]

Another friend of the show who we've had up here.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You could hear him. Yeah.

[C]

The sound, I don't know. It was the sweets, but the sound in general was a little bit up to me. Like, I don't know if it's just because we're up high in the suite.

[D]

I think.

[A]

I think the band sound was so good that everybody was just trash.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. But I heard the mic music to

[C]

a knocking in that.

[A]

Oh, my God. It was knocking. I want to purchase just the music from all three nights and just play it like it's cool. In the gang or the band playing. Seriously. But anyway. All right, cool. So Jermaine Dupri. I like that. I'm into it. You got me. You got me. And then Jeezy comes out. And again, I'm off the head. I'm not trying to go in order. Then Jeezy comes out. Jeezy cancel his Vegas. They doing. I done seen it all. I'm hearing.

[C]

Yeah. They put the whole sample coming and

[E]

doing it, and I'm like.

[A]

I'm like, nah, nah, nah. So now I gotta stand up. I almost jumped. I almost jumped off the sweep, but I didn't. Cause my girl be looking at me, and it's like, let me try to be cool. But when you. Yo, when you vibe to a song and your girl. Girl don't really know the song, and now she looking at you and you fanned out.

[E]

Your girl should know the list of artists or songs that could get you in that bag.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And she should just know that.

[D]

Like, you know.

[A]

Oh, my. See, my girl don't know that. Well, she should.

[E]

I'm saying, y' all gotta have that conversation.

[A]

Who I am in the last seven years, who I portray myself to be is a whole new than who I am in my soul. No, she don't. She don't. She don't work. You want to play?

[E]

You lie.

[A]

You want to play?

[E]

You.

[A]

You want to play today?

[E]

I ain't know you.

[A]

You better back up off. You better back up off. I know that. So, yeah. So I'm in a great mood. I really want to talk about Rihanna coming out.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I don't know how Rihanna now. Yo, Navy. Love y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Absolutely love y' all. Asap. Rocky is a friend of the show. I love that. All the people that was up there had been up here, just be kicking it. I love all that. Yo, if we was waiting five hours and everybody was back here. Oh, wait, before I get to Rihanna. If we was back here waiting for five hours. Put your mic back.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And everybody is getting drunk and drinking facts, then I assume that's what all of the artists backstage. I know most of those artists, so I know what they was doing back then. So when Usher comes out and starts gyrating, there ain't no love. So that's when Mark seen me writing to my phone. I'm like, oh, word. Oh, Usher want to play games. Say less. Usher came out that song don't call for what the fuck Usher was. But Usher was back there off the Henny dressed like that. Usher was half a shirt, sir, put

[B]

your shirt on, sir.

[A]

Usher was up there being Henny Hendrix.

[E]

I was like, is this.

[A]

I ain't seen a clip of Usher dancing from his tour. And he came, ain't no love. He was moving his hips around and doing what I said, Usher. Usher is off the head. But, hey, it was a long wait. I know Usher back there drinking all of McAllen. I know what he doing. So now, if Usher was doing that, what the fuck do y' all think I think Rihanna was doing back there? I think Rihanna had all the weed.

[E]

All the best.

[A]

I think Rihanna had all of the rum punch.

[B]

Actually.

[A]

That was her whole performance. It looked like she was walking to get a rum punch. When she was walking back and forth, it looked like she was on the tarmac in the Barbados just walking around. Hey, yeah. So now I'm looking because again, I'm here for one person, and I just woke up. I felt like the same way I feel about Rihanna, the same way I feel about Stevie Wonder. That's what I'll say.

[B]

Huh?

[E]

Please, Please.

[A]

Rihanna is. Is legacy act time.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

And that's it. We don't need to see this. Ain't nothing going on. We don't need the Black Panther song. We don't need. And then she got the nerve to troll y' all and say, oh, I missed this.

[E]

That pissed me off.

[C]

That was a troll for sure.

[A]

She got the nerve to say, I missed it this while. She walked back and forth like this.

[B]

What do you expect? She just had.

[A]

And then she got the nerve to talk about ho. They finished doing on the run. Hov Talking about, give him a little something. Re. Give him a little something. She go talk about some bitch better have my money.

[B]

That's the easiest song to sing for her.

[E]

She got all the money.

[B]

That was easy too.

[C]

It worked. That's all.

[A]

It worked. She's supposed manifesting. I was like, damn, Rihanna know exactly, exactly what I'm calling AMEX to say in the morning. Oh, I just did.

[B]

That was easy.

[A]

Better have your money. After I. I thought it was a slap in the face after I just woke up. Better have my money. She look like she fresh off a private jet walking around Rihanna.

[E]

That's what she look like to me.

[A]

What it look like.

[B]

That's what she is.

[A]

Rihanna. When I say legacy act. Rihanna got some of the best albums, some of the best music, some of the best catalog ever. And her energy has always been vibe. I'm fighting with my girl this morning. Cause she loved all that shit. She loved Rihanna walking back and forth like this too.

[D]

I ain't gonna hold you.

[C]

I like her too. I was so caught with her just being there that I didn't even pay attention to her performance.

[E]

Nigga, Rihanna is the reason we couldn't leave.

[A]

And that's why it's a win. Because the people that love Rihanna like that one. If you get the vibe, then that's all we need.

[E]

You're happy.

[A]

But her vibe is so strong that you gonna get that vibe. Vibe. Anyway, this Rihanna. I don't get the vibe from anti. Sorry, if y' all do. I get. I love, I love my man, my man. I get. That's what I get from Rihanna.

[E]

Explain it.

[A]

Ish.

[E]

Let's explain it. She's not anti no more.

[A]

That's what I'm telling them. That's what I'm telling them. The shit you saying.

[E]

She got off at Teterboro fresh from soaking her feet in the sand.

[C]

They got helicoptered to the Bronx.

[E]

Hasn't sunk months. Got hella traffic. I came over here on a helicopter, landed at the pier, and just came

[A]

to do my homeboy a favor. Rihanna looked high out her mind, like, you right. I'm doing my man a solid.

[B]

See her face. Shut up.

[A]

Rihanna was gone.

[B]

She was just doing that walking

[A]

today. The energy is just. My man, my man, my man, my kids, my kids. You saying money. I'm saying something different. She got all the money in the world already.

[E]

We saying it's both cool.

[A]

She got all the money in the world, but it looked like where is my men it, which is the antithesis of anti anti. So when I see her now, yo, she could have stayed back there. Hey, yo.

[E]

Hey, Joe.

[A]

She could have stayed right back there, and I'd have been just fine.

[E]

Like you said, she was back There drinking, smoking and all that. What's the first thing they get to thinking? Where's my man? My man? My man, right?

[C]

And he was stuck outside.

[E]

And he was stuck outside with the

[C]

baby at gate six.

[A]

Yeah,

[E]

she in Barbados right now.

[D]

Back there before we got home, right?

[E]

Maybe Paris.

[A]

Yeah, something like that's when I realized I'm shady. If I already Already got the music from you, I need.

[E]

Yeah, you are.

[A]

You are. If I got the music from you that I need already, like, I got fucking sex with me. I got everything I need from Rihanna already.

[E]

For me, Rihanna is on that. Like that Kanye bar said my presence is a present. Like, just me being here. I don't give a fuck what I look like. Don't come outside. Y' all are being blessed by me stepping on this stage. And they treated.

[A]

They. We treated it that way. And that's how I feel when stage. Stevie Wonder's the stage. That's what I mean. When Stevie Wonder hit the stage. I'm always happy to see Stevie Wonder. He blessed us just by being here. But once the show start, it's different

[E]

for me with that.

[A]

Yo, just go chill somewhere, yo.

[E]

We see him much more often than

[A]

we see yo, Rihanna and Stevie Wonder. For me, I'm cool. I felt that way at the Super Bowl. This is not a new thing for me. I said that at the Super Bowl. She gave chair, beautiful set. She came out, walked back and forth. Yo, dog, please.

[D]

Pregnant.

[B]

What are you want her to do?

[D]

What she like, seven months pregnant?

[A]

Was she pregnant the other day?

[E]

Might be. We don't know.

[A]

And that's the thing. And that's. That's my point. We might be. You know that Rihanna probably just want to have another baby with my man. My man, my man and all my kids to be the same age. Don't tell me I miss this. We miss you too, dog. Enough. Go home.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I ain't about to miss you. Go home. You don't need to troll me. I'm cool.

[E]

She might have meant to say it felt good because being out here. Not that I missed this

[D]

ain't missing no more.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

The energy of the Yankee Stadium with 50, 000 people screaming.

[C]

Come on.

[E]

She could miss it. I mean, I don't miss my bed, but I might miss this too. It just felt good right there.

[A]

That was exactly. What else. Who else he brought out? Pharrell. Came out again. That was awesome.

[C]

Dream.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. The dream came out.

[C]

No church in the wild here.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I ain't stay for that whole fight. I had the out of there. I'm out of there. I'm gone. Fine. I don't. I don't need to stick around for. Hey, with all due respect to Fat Joe, that's my Knicks game.

[D]

Guy.

[A]

Love Fat Joe.

[C]

Oh, we walked out before.

[A]

I just woke up after Empire State.

[E]

What else was fire for me was when Swiss came out. Yeah. Doing that. That little in the Bronx.

[A]

The X tribute was fired.

[C]

Yeah, fine.

[E]

That was fire. Yeah, that was fire.

[C]

Oh, Beyonce came out. Pharrell bought the clips out, embodied it.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

She did a great job. Beyonce is amazing because she did drunken

[D]

love, which I wasn't again, sometimes just. I wasn't expecting that to be the joint she was going to do. Yeah, it was great.

[E]

And everybody in that was singing it.

[C]

And we were all drunk. Cuz we've been sitting there for five hours all drunk.

[D]

We're at doing shots. Yeah, we up in there.

[A]

Yeah. No, I'm going to bed. I'm going adapt to a. Everybody up. I looked at my mom, who was still sitting there. She chilled with us.

[D]

You might go to the end.

[A]

I chucked the deuces at my mama. I will see you later.

[E]

And I was like. I stood outside. I'm not leaving this till I see the fireworks. We walked out after the fireworks. The lights came on.

[D]

We was there today.

[E]

The lights came on in the stadium. Yes, yes, yes.

[D]

We waited like daytime in that dog.

[C]

Was it still packed outside? Oh, okay.

[E]

Bro was outside. They had the bar set up. Yo, they sell and liquor.

[B]

It was.

[E]

It was a. It was something. You just got experience, bro.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[D]

It was one for the books.

[E]

It was so New York. So now the let out. So now look, the let out. Because again, it's the Bronx. It's three in the morning now.

[A]

You right there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

So the let out. Somebody lets off an M80.

[C]

Sure.

[E]

It was so New York. Nobody panicked, nobody moved. It was like.

[A]

Bong was like, everybody all right, all right, cool.

[E]

Keep it pushing like nothing blue.

[A]

Keep it walking.

[E]

And this would have only worked. I saw somebody tweet this and I completely agree. Majority of this crowd is older.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

If this one of them young niggas and they like NBA YoungBoy or something. This whole shit is totally different. You can't do that.

[A]

Thank you, random tweeter guy. Yes. It would be different at an NBA young.

[E]

We talking about the way the people. Again, I know you got your inside jokes. I'm talking about the way the people outside dealt with all of that for that long without there being any incidents is something that should be applauded.

[A]

Like real talk. A mature older.

[E]

We talking about four or five hours of standing with no information with 20,000 even older. Some of them was tweaking.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[C]

It just.

[E]

It wasn't as bad as you. If you hear this on paper or you read this on paper and say niggas was stuck outside with no answer answers for four and five hours. Turns a little differently in New York. Then drove up from PA Fluing from. It just didn't happen. Like I, I, I. That was something special.

[D]

I mean, in the moment. It sucks to be out there to 12:17 waiting for a show to start, but it's gonna make for it. Adds to the lore of it.

[A]

It does.

[D]

You know what I mean? It's a hell of a story the

[A]

way it added to the night.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And especially how ended up turning out

[E]

classic D. I know that have been to again.

[D]

You name it.

[E]

Say, yo, it's the best show I've ever seen in my life.

[C]

Oh, you missed clips coming out. That was fire.

[A]

I love clips.

[C]

No doubt.

[A]

With all due respect to clips, I got home in 16 minutes.

[C]

Oh, that's dope.

[A]

I got home in 16.

[E]

That.

[A]

That to me is always more important. My girl checked me about the shit and they're going. You do be leaving a little too soon. I'm out. Sorry, Gotta go. Love clips, but five hours late. Yo. There's none of y' all out there that that I wanna see five hours after it started.

[E]

Really.

[A]

To be honest with you. And then that's a me thing. I don't. None of y' all are that dope to me. For me to be here in on my 10th hour, once I start feeling like I should be paid to be here, like overtime. Like it's a gig for real. No. I'm outta here. Gotta go, Gotta go.

[B]

It was dope, though.

[D]

It was an amazing show.

[B]

It was an amazing show.

[D]

It's one of the better stadium shows I've ever seen. Maybe the best.

[E]

It was number two whole show that I've personally been to.

[A]

It was the best hov show shows I've ever been to.

[E]

I got and I didn't. I seen a few right under the evening evening with Jay Z at the Garden. The one that they turned into Fade to Black. Oh, to me, this was right.

[D]

I got this above that.

[A]

But 91 got the freestyle, which.

[C]

Which wasn't great.

[A]

I didn't love the freestyle. I mean, I said it on the last freestyle. I'm Just not loving the freestyles. For me, it sounds like somebody who is already preparing for an album, trying to write verses in between to spit on the fly the following day or two. It's almost like when we had to go to the radio station with a new freestyle and we ride in the car and now we. That's what it sounds like. It sounds like he ain't really putting too much effort, energy into this, so I'm not going to kill him. But I don't love the freestyles. I'm conflicted because on the flip side, that is what you should do if you have the ability to do it. That's what kind of goes into the tactician and the skill.

[D]

The.

[A]

The skill set that he has that I keep talking about. The fact that he says, yo, I can do this and write something and go out there and try to perform it in front of 30, 40,000 people. That's impressive.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But do I love the freestyles?

[E]

I don't.

[C]

I like the free first one, but I didn't like this last one.

[D]

I thought the. I like the content of the first one, but I didn't love the delivery. This one, I thought he executed it better. It sounded better, it was smoother, but I just didn't like the content. And I danced an agreement.

[B]

The words, what he was saying.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't just mean, like, the. The message I definitely disagree with, but I mean, even like, just as on some rapper. I thought the first one was more interesting and complicated. He was doing a lot more interesting, like, lyricism in the first one. This one was. It was cool.

[C]

Bruce Spectacles, my favorite that I went to.

[A]

Got it.

[E]

Still show.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Of this B. Now I'm mad I missed it.

[A]

Yeah, I would have liked to see Foxy Brown come out or yo. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I. I saw Gav. So maybe Foxy was around somewhere. I heard Memphis Bleak on the Breakfast Club say that he heard that she was in the building. I don't know, but it would have been nice to see her. My playlist all the way there on. On night two was Foxy Brown. So, I mean, I was looking for. That would have been great. I thought Night one, if Sauce Money was there, Reservoir Dogs could have happened.

[B]

Yo, park said to me, yo, he could have bring out a meal.

[A]

I mean, for real.

[B]

Shout out to a meal. I'll be speaking busy.

[C]

That's true.

[D]

Just book. That's true.

[B]

She's somewhere in Carolina, man.

[D]

She's out the game.

[A]

Even that for me was impressive from hov. I was just in there doing a lot of analyzing the people he created distance with. Cuz I did think of Kanye at some point when he was doing Watch of Thrones and did some of the

[D]

other rappers few songs.

[E]

I thought about quite a few.

[A]

If Kanye is there, we break Yankee Stadium. It ain't no roof, but we break the walls. Them BR coming on.

[E]

That was it.

[C]

That was the one.

[A]

And welcome to the jungle. We did ham all over. They got they. They gotta. Listening to the show, you could see the different stages in hov's career. You can see who he created distance with. You can maybe even see why it was necessary if you just looking at it holistically. So no, I'm glad that Emil didn't come out there.

[E]

Were there any people that you might have anticipated coming outside of Fox Brown Sauce Money Property. I was shocked about that. But I guess they got it in Philly.

[C]

They got it.

[D]

They got it in Philly.

[A]

Ross, I didn't expect to be there because of the bigs comments.

[C]

Yeah, true.

[E]

Ross was in New York cuz he had the show Friday.

[D]

I don't know if anybody was there.

[A]

But with me, you know I got it. The hustling remix.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I thought Cam would have came out.

[D]

That would have been fire.

[E]

Welcome to New York City.

[A]

That's another one that

[E]

they did it.

[A]

And then Cam went on his show and said whatever it is that he said recently after they did it all them years ago, like he gave his version of thing. I don't think that them really. And I don't know.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

I ain't even spoke to neither one of them about it. But from the optics of it, it don't look like I wasn't shocked at that.

[D]

I was hearing rumors that Kendrick might pop up.

[B]

Interesting.

[D]

I would have been that would also tore the roof off the spot. That's about the only other person and I wasn't expecting him, but I was hoping.

[A]

Listen. Night three did it, man. Night three, all three nights, Yankee Stadium. He absolutely did it. I don't want to continue to glaze. We do have other shit we need to get to. But that nigga's the best, man. He's the best look by far. He is.

[E]

It's nobody even close.

[A]

Sorry that the younger people get mad at me. I'm not saying he should be your people best. I'm not saying that you should consider him the best. But by any metric I could think of, he's the best. Yeah, I agree like for the young kids, the streamer, the. The streams and all them streaming numbers and all that is super important. I'm not mad at that. That's the error that you came up. That's the. That's the world you came up in. That's what they told you was important. I'm not mad at that. A going out, buying an album will just always mean something different to me. And a lot of the people that were outside for that time, like, for that nigga to sell records on the day that the towers fell is important.

[C]

I would like to hear Hard Knock Life at some point.

[A]

And what's up with him not doing what more can I say anymore?

[E]

That's what I was. It hit me that night three. I was like, yo, he officially retired that record. The last maybe four or five times. He hasn't done it.

[D]

Yeah, I think he's probably just trying to switch up. He used to close out the shows with Young Forever too. Now that's also out. And I did does in New York State.

[E]

Empire State has that many songs.

[D]

Yeah, I think he just.

[E]

What more can I say specifically was one. What more can I say in PSA was two joints that you were gonna get every time he stepped out.

[C]

Hard Knock Life's a way bigger record and more important to his career.

[E]

Life is the album.

[C]

That was the pivot.

[D]

That was the pivot. It was.

[E]

I'm talking about on stage, energy, performance, stadium record, like, anytime. Even when back in the summer jam when HOV would pop out as a kid guest. You're getting. What more can I say psa. Those are two records that will rock the building. Hard Knock Life don't true. Rock the Building. So it's like to see him retire that particular song is just weird to me. I love when he performs the record and I was shocked.

[A]

I liked in my head anyway. I loved him doing Girls, Girls, Girls and then changing the second verse to Me and My Girlfriend. It was me and my girlfriend at first, but he did that so much that Big Pippin may have happened at some point. He did Me and My Girlfriend and I laughed cuz I'm like, yeah, it's. It's. Yeah, Beyonce ain't playing with you. You go out there talking about some girls, girls, girls. Delete that and switch that over.

[C]

Make a verse about me.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. HOV is old, but he's still in the house with.

[E]

Got to go through the same.

[A]

He going through his version of the.

[E]

That we all.

[A]

Yeah, no, that. That was. That was that. That. That. That nigga's the best man. But I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I don't have any other way to put it or say it.

[E]

And if you disagree, fine. It's not a conversation over there.

[A]

And he rap better than you.

[E]

Breath control. Damn near 60. Big ass stage. He knew all the words. It was. It was different, bro.

[A]

Like, he should be. No, now I'm out of. Really glad I'm getting off of this, but he should be. If you headed to 60 years old and you rap like that's what it should look like. Like that's our version of.

[C]

Of LeBron at 42 still putting up

[D]

being as good for this long in

[B]

Paris was with big pimping Palmy.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. This is what

[E]

nothing. This is what it should look like if you were able. We don't have a level that's done this because that's the problem before him and before that fact. Those who hit to that 60 year old, they hit some hard times before they got to 60. And it. They don't look the same.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

The people that we have that are in their upper 50s cannot command a crowd of three nights in the biggest city in the world and do that. It's just in the city they from you 40, you can't do that.

[A]

And to want to do it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

And to want to do it to get up there, you know he ain't up there for the bread. Yeah, he up there really loving it. He. And he's looking at Glow Real and I'm in. Yo, I'm happy y' all came, bro. Like, y'. All. Y' all are beautiful.

[E]

To have the albums that you could have as an anniversary, that means something even to have a show to do that. These. The breath control, bro. You could tell he been in the gym. You could tell he prepared for this.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Like the last few times you've seen him, he was getting a little overweight. He's been in the gym. He prepared. He prepped himself for this again. I'm sure he been jogging by, yo. To get the breath control and all that. That shit is different, my nigga. It's a different level of excellence.

[D]

Yeah. And the standby. The thing he said to me that he didn't say to me. I'm sorry. The thing he said in the stadium that stuck out to me was he said reasonable Doubt album that only sold about 43,000 units in his first week. Thirty years later, to have a stadium of 40,000 people watching says that culture is what matters.

[A]

That's the other point that's what helped cement it that this nigga's the greatest. Cause I forgot. Cause I was younger. Like when Reasonable Doubt came out, I was in Jersey City fucking robbing people. That's 96. I didn't understand none of that drug dealer talk that N was talking about. That wasn't my story. For Blueprint to come out in 01, I had a record deal. And when I was young, that seemed like eons apart because it's two different lives.

[E]

It's two.

[A]

So it's a shift. It wasn't until this Yankee Stadium that I did math, actual math, and said, yo, that was only five years between Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint. There's. There is no conversation now, bro. There is no conversation every year. Every fourth quarter.

[E]

Yeah, it went Reasonable Doubt volume one, Volume two, Volume three, Dynasty. That's crazy, B. In that five year span, dawg, that is insanity, my nigga. Nobody can do that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But five years, Reasonable Doubt 2, Blueprint, five albums.

[C]

It's also rare for someone to have a album that good compared to their first album that late in their career. You know, most people don't have a classic album five albums deep, unless that was their first class.

[E]

But the thing is, most people not putting out an album every single year.

[C]

That too.

[E]

So they fifth album might come a decade down the road. That's a fact. You get what I'm saying? So they've matured. It's different. This nigga put out an album every single year for five years straight.

[A]

So that's up there changing the words. Jigga held it down 30 summers. Like, he up there. Really just this entire run has just been a flex and a reminder and an introduction to some of you people, people that may be confused on just who the fuck this nigga is. Yo, like, if some of y' all stupid enough out there talk, still talking. This is Beyonce's husband, which he is. But nah, but nah. But nah. That ain't that. That ain't. This ain't this and that ain't that, dog.

[E]

Or if you 28, you 30, you 35. And again, Drake is Drake. No, no disrespect to Drake, my nigga. When you see that now he's getting.

[D]

Getting a.

[E]

A resurgence of album sales. Yeah, like, is going back to be like, oh, damn, let me go listen to what everybody on this dick for pause. But they. They getting it.

[A]

I'm just on a culture tip. I don't care about none of that.

[E]

No, I'm just saying. But culturally, he's now moving the Youth again that are. Well, not the youth, but yeah.

[A]

Dumb. Be trying to hate him, but yeah, they.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, it's there. It's. It's there. It's their time. Whatever they say from this point, moving forward, it's your opinion, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

But be clear.

[E]

It can't affect our opinion.

[A]

Homeboy is the best.

[E]

We was there, what we saw, and what y' all saw is different.

[A]

That's it. I'm done. I don't. I'm done. That's a button on it. No pun. Yeah, no. I went and bought all the merch. I bought three shirts. I went and bought all the merch today and have no sizes. Then I started doing more math.

[C]

Oh, no. I put a math problem.

[A]

Started doing more math.

[E]

Pop up shops.

[C]

That's why I started. When it was like, oh, they're gonna cancel the show. I started doing a little bit of math. I was like, they're not canceling. Yeah, no, it's bringing a couple dollars.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Hello.

[C]

We're not just gonna. Yeah, we're not refunding all this. Nope.

[D]

No.

[A]

And I know the way that Pharrell was talking up there. It's heat. Pharrell gave some of that. That. Some of the hardest beats he ever made Pharrell been, and then it made sense to. To me, that's the only thing I could think. That's the only reason I could think of that Jay Z was not on that clips album. To be clear, I'm saying this as someone that. That knows both of them. That didn't make sense. That still don't make sense. Unless. Unless you hit a while. He's in work mode. He got killer already got for real studio.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Y'. All. Y' all, hold up, boy. It's some coming. I can't wait.

[D]

Wait.

[A]

I cannot wait.

[E]

All right.

[A]

That's all I got on that. What's next? What's next? What's important? What's unimportant? Do I toss parks?

[C]

Okay, we're going for the. The up here to. We're going to go to underground hip hop. Let's do it. Underground hip hop.

[A]

Why not?

[C]

Let's do it.

[A]

It's only. It's only hope.

[D]

Special.

[A]

Charlemagne. What. What else is important here?

[E]

Yeah, come on.

[C]

Well, special went back to so in Heineken, and. And he. He let off the opera, man. He. He had some things to say, and he has gotten the Internet in an uproar. And I'm sure you guys are here all to attack me about the things that he said.

[E]

No, why, why do you think that what he say?

[C]

Oh, cuz that's been the case. He fired on Jim Jones, he fired on Fat Joe, he fired on Kiss. Sort of. Not really. In some of the clips that went around he was firing on Kiss. But then he later on in the interview, if you watch the entire interview was big enough. How legendary Kiss is and how he was a blueprint for a lot.

[D]

He's only heard the negative.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

And so we clear all this started because he wants to do another record with Kiss. Basically.

[C]

Basically, yeah, I guess.

[D]

And then he was talking about. Here's the thing I don't understand because he was.

[A]

No, I'm not doing that.

[E]

Yeah, that's not true.

[A]

I ain't doing it because originally I said whatever approach he was taking, you can't wanna do a record with him. Cause that's not the way to get it done. Or maybe you don't know that.

[C]

Well, wait, hold up. I don't think that's fair because it seems. Well, no, he said it in this interview and in the previous interview that he has reached out time and time again. He's had communications with Kiss. He said that again in this interview. He's tried it the other way. Offered him money, offered, you know, to do projects, whatever, whatever. And he's been ignored essentially, which is why he said he's ducking me. So let's put the timeline out. Out.

[A]

The other way is non existent. Once you get to the. You're ducking me, you're ducking me. You may have tried every angle in the world. Listen, and I feel like I want to play this first before I start talking about special.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

And this is one of the longer clips. This is a four minute clip, but I'm going just play it as soon as my phone gets to work.

[E]

Wasn't doing nothing.

[D]

Get that?

[B]

Understood.

[E]

Most of you got in rap, then went to the streets, got in the

[A]

rap joint game,

[E]

all that corny shit.

[A]

Listen, I got in the rap, nigga

[D]

and walked away from anything that has something to do with the streets.

[A]

I'm a real street of that. Appreciate this shit. I ain't glorifying the streets.

[E]

I'm happy to make it out of the streets, homie. I'm not glorifying that shit. Now let's talk about the song.

[A]

I think it was a bad idea.

[E]

Let me tell you what, which song are you talking about? I think was a bad idea. Why was it not a good song? Well, let me tell you why I

[A]

think it was a bad idea.

[D]

And I don't know who idea was.

[E]

Maybe it was Fat Joe's. But to sit there and have 50 year old men making a song about the aroma of drugs is not too appealing.

[A]

My.

[E]

Like, who are y' all trying to aim for? Like, y' all should be making songs about, like, the prescription drugs y' all taking to stay alive. And as a.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[E]

Like Pet ties and shit. You niggas should be rapping about Pet

[A]

ties and AARP and like that.

[E]

What the is wrong with you?

[A]

Talk about the aroma of drugs.

[B]

Like, we. We old. We old as a. Y' all 10,

[A]

15 years older than me talking about the aroma drug. Who idea was that? And then to diss me on, it was stupid.

[E]

A real drug dealer. Y' all gonna dress just a real drug dealer a. That really sold drugs on a song.

[A]

Kids, you spit the verse.

[E]

You got Khaled and Fat Joe as your backup dancers. You wearing a book bag that another man gave you.

[A]

You spit the verse.

[E]

You spit the verse. Fat Joe, he more happy about your verse than his. You don't know what's going on. He just happy to be around niggas. Khed, do you speak like that when you around your Palestinian people or you just speak like that when you around? I wanna know if you speak animated like that.

[A]

Like, he's just going off. This is what I heard.

[D]

Hold on. I don't. I.

[E]

We gonna talk this.

[A]

I'll pause it.

[B]

But wait. So. So hold on. Parks, I know that's your man. Shout out to him. Yeah, but you. So you go at someone, right, Saying they ducking you, and you call them out, you respond. Now you in the verse, respond to the verse. Criticizing him in the interview about the type of verse he did. And I heard the verse was hot. Like, that sounds kind of crazy to me. I don't know.

[D]

And you was criticizing people for going to podcast instead of rapping. And now you responded to the rap while going on the podcast to me, I didn't understand.

[B]

None of this is doing. It's not. I'm kind of surprised even I thought it. I thought. I thought he was. I saw him in capo, but I don't. I'm surprised to hear that, honestly. I don't really know him. But that's surprising the way he's cracking jokes on it and downplaying the verse.

[E]

What I take from his. I'm sorry, what you finna.

[B]

No, I'm done. I'm done. I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that.

[E]

What I took from it. Cause he did go on to say I'm independent. So I almost like, I gotta get my name out there and make people talk about me. I gotta do this Pac. I don't like to see that personally,

[C]

especially when people that. From what he said about being independent at all.

[E]

No, I'm saying when he was. He was kind of addressing.

[C]

That's what Jim Jones had said up here. But that's not what Special's talking about in this interview.

[E]

To me, to me it sounded a little different.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

But again, you know him, so you could have a different insight in that. But if you talking about rapping, Kiss ain't go on no platform and say he rapped.

[A]

He did the Big Daddy Kane joint.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he did.

[E]

And he did the Aroma record, which is Fire.

[A]

Fire.

[C]

I do like that record.

[A]

That's the part that's one of the things I don't really understand about what you're saying about that record is hard mostly because of Stove. Stove guards.

[D]

The hook.

[E]

The hook.

[A]

And if you hear that hook.

[E]

No, that beat is the. All that stuff.

[C]

Everything.

[E]

That's New York.

[A]

Yeah, but the hook leans to what the subject. Subject matter is.

[E]

The record's called the Aroma.

[A]

I don't. Yeah, I want to hear talk about that. If they did that before over that beat.

[E]

Over that grimy, hard.

[A]

No, I don't interpret that as glorifying. I, I don't even think that's the best angle to take if you special. But I mean. All right, you shooting at everybody. So get, go ahead and get your off.

[B]

Understand this.

[E]

I'm shooting everybody. Everybody get shot the up.

[D]

Just think about it.

[E]

Independent. Think I need anything from anybody?

[D]

No.

[B]

Back to this.

[E]

That was a bad idea. I don't want to hear no 50 year old damn 60 talking about the aroma of drugs.

[A]

You don't want to hear that. You don't want to hear that.

[E]

But y' all don't want.

[A]

Y, Y. Y' all gotta play the industry game.

[E]

I don't.

[A]

So I.

[E]

Well, I don't know.

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[E]

I'm tired.

[A]

I'm tired.

[B]

I'm sorry. Listen,

[E]

that, that's another thing that I don't like a lot of. I'm starting to see a lot of. If you don't criticize something or critique something the way that a person wants you to, you're. You're, you're dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or we don't agree with that.

[D]

Right?

[E]

Like he telling them y' all can't Criticize. Y' all ain't gonna say nothing because y' all playing the industry game or not.

[A]

But go ahead.

[E]

You might like the song.

[A]

Yo, that's another big misconception. I have a lot to say on this topic. That's another big misconception. And I identify. I relate to what he's saying and why he's saying it. I do relate to a lot of it.

[C]

It sounds a lot like young you. Not for the.

[A]

That's why I have so much to say about it. Yeah, it's so much I identify with. He reminds me of me when I was at. Of me when I was at my angriest.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Not Lois. Angriest. Independent. Nobody in the game helped me. Fuck these niggas. Anybody could get it. I'm better than them. I'm not answering to nobody. I'm moving on my own time.

[E]

You respond. You said all that in rapping?

[C]

No, he said it.

[E]

But I'm stream too. But he rapped.

[C]

But so does Special rap.

[E]

The he talking about he hasn't rapped.

[A]

What do you mean?

[E]

You ain't said nothing. Kiss his rap too. You can if you want to say the Big Daddy Kane joint has some shots. And if you want to say the Aroma Record has some shots, which I believe they both did to some extent.

[C]

There's a couple subs. Yes.

[E]

Especially this is when you should be rapping.

[C]

He's gonna rap.

[E]

No, you shouldn't. You should not be responding.

[C]

This is. This is where I have.

[E]

Real quick. You call somebody out about rapping.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

And they respond via rapping.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

You should not run to a podcast. That's my take on that.

[C]

You should.

[E]

If you're. And your whole thing is how well you rap or how much better you rap than this person, your immediate response should be rapping. Anything else. I don't want to hear it.

[D]

I agree.

[A]

Got you.

[C]

That's fair. That's fair.

[A]

Well, go ahead.

[E]

My fault.

[A]

Like, he reminds me of me during that vibe bracket when I said whatever I had to say about Method Man. Angry at the game. Hey, whoever y' all think is nice, I think I could take them. I'm going to stick to that publicly, even if I've never said it to this person. I think we competing and everybody's doing this rap shit.

[E]

Nah.

[A]

So I'm saying whatever I'm saying. But by the time I get to Summer Jim, what's that? Rock the Bells. Pay dudes. Wherever I actually spoke the Method man, it's like, yo, Dog, yo, what are you doing? You saying this to somebody about somebody that don't bother nobody, ain't bothered nobody, is loved by all, has never had a bad encounter nowhere with the whole hip hop transcends hip hop. The person you talking about, and they got whatever they needed to get from it. Already you making your bones, you making your way, but you don't need to do that. And you talented enough. The niggas tell me, yo, you dissing niggas that already that love you. We love you and root for you. We love all that spitter shit that you talking about. But you dissing and n. It's like you cutting your nose despite your fate. You making your travel harder. Why don't you just try and met the man later? He was like, he gave me everything he was dealing with personally. He was like, the niggas you talking about ain't even talking dealing with rap stuff, right? We dealing with grown man household life, life stuff. And here comes some punk ass little young punk running his fucking mouth. Changed my entire perspective. Changed my entire. But that's who like, Special is reminding me of. And we identify in even more ways than that. Even Kiss, right? He going through this with Kiss. Hey, I went through this with Kiss already. I wanted a verse from Kiss. I couldn't get the verse from Kiss. I was online and in verses saying a, where's Kiss? He's done me. That's how me and Marlon Wayne and somebody started beefing on Twitter. They tweeted some shit. Yo, bring me in two chain somebody. I got this new Kiss verse. I added Kiss. Yo, you rapping with this bum ass nigga and I can't get a verse? My brain didn't understand that this game is more politics than it is music. Music.

[E]

Yeah, that's probably true.

[A]

There would. No, it's true.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

It's not a probably about it. There were some things that Kiss felt like he needed to get with me on. There was some things that Styles people, the people that were watching me and my moves, they felt like they needed to come get with me first and then we could get to rapping. I eventually got my Kiss verse. I eventually got my styled verse. Styles. Styles sent that verse back in 70 seconds. Yeah, like, when the politics is right, you'll get your verse.

[C]

The reason why I say the. The probably to that statement is that he is and has been independent, not only releasing his own music, but releasing and producing other people's music as well. So the politics part, while true, is not dissimilar to your position on politics within this podcasting space, where it's like, I got my own shit. I got my own fan base. I cater to them. I'm doing a bunch of shit. Maybe people don't see all of it, but I really care about that.

[A]

I'm here to tell anybody listening that is a myth and a farce and a front. It is fugazi. Even if niggas really believe that, hey, they say that in independence, you shouldn't even use the word scale. If you believe that, then I ain't talking to you. But we all are playing the game, whether we know we're playing it or not, and that's something that we have to learn. I had to go learn that. I've pissed off people that are friends with people, that have people that work in every. Every section of this infrastructure where you may need, hey, I'm independent. I'm not playing the radio game. I'm not playing in this game. Well, you want to do shows, these venues are owned by people. Yankee Stadium is owned by somebody. Madison Square Garden is owned by people. You better learn where culture is accepted and treated a certain way and where it's not. So for the shit that he's doing, I also just feel like he got the best role model in the world right next to him or a phone call away, which is Ransom. Ransom is in Hawaii, somewhere under the sun, far secluded, far away from rappers, rapper people, and industry people. He's Learned in his 20 years how to play the independent game the way the he wants to play it. He think all of these rap niggas are phony. He think it's all fake, and he keeps his business separate from all of that. He might.

[E]

He's.

[A]

He's not out disrespecting none of the rappers. He not out talking shit about none of the rappers, but he know what it is, and he keep himself kind of away. I got a little bit of that. And me, I don't jive with. I ain't coming to mingle with you niggas, because I know what this is, and I know know me. I'm psycho. So I try to keep that separate. But I'm damn sure not about to make my task harder than it needs to be. As a podcaster, I'm independent.

[C]

However,

[A]

the people that are higher up in some of these C suites in some of these companies that you may need to partner with or align with or work with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They want to know what time it is. There's a way that you Gotta kind of do that. Sorry if I'm breaking news, but everybody

[B]

have to go through their phases, right? Like, he's just going through that phase that you went through that everybody else went through, right?

[A]

I don't know what phase he goes. He sound. He sounds. I've never met him, and I'm trying to get him up here so I can say some of this to his face because it's important. He's talented. But you making your job harder, whatever your job is. I'm not.

[B]

But if you try to reach out to me and, you know, you're showing it by your talent and I'm rapping and you trying your best to reach out to people, and you're getting in your mind their ass to kiss, what else way can you go?

[E]

They don't owe you. No, they don't owe you a verse,

[B]

but this is what's bringing the attention.

[E]

All right, so listen to this.

[B]

We up here talking about, does this

[E]

get you the verse that you want?

[B]

No, but now it's gonna put more ears on him.

[E]

But now it's creating an enemy in a situation that a person wasn't your enemy.

[A]

So if I.

[E]

If I reach out to somebody to give me a verse again, that might be going through some personal in his life, he might be embarking on new business ventures. He might be doing a whole bunch of stuff. I don't know what's going on. But for me to now go public and say, yo, you ducking me now, it creates a negativity.

[B]

There was nothing negative in you ducking me. To me.

[E]

Yes, it is. There is negativity to me.

[C]

Negative to me.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

That's negative. To you.

[A]

It's negative. When he said it, I came on and said it was negative. And Parks knows him. So out of respect for Parks, he's like, hey, maybe he was joking. Maybe he's cool with Kiss. Maybe he's. Hey, you're right. I don't know. I never met him looking at this now. He ain't joking. He don't know these niggas, and he ain't getting no verse.

[E]

And now you just created a situation in a potential. Jadakiss is so well loved, bro. Fat Joe is so well loved that now you might have created enemies and created negativity in a space where there was no.

[A]

But that's the line that went over his head because the Esso asked him, yo. Yeah, in the song, tell me, is this about a verse or a career? Like, what did you think he meant by that? And Spec couldn't say it

[B]

in that same clip.

[A]

He didn't know what he meant. I got the clip somewhere I find it, but I'm running my mouth right now.

[B]

I got you.

[C]

I got you.

[A]

The point of that, the sentence, he wasn't dissing your career. He was saying, yo, think bigger picture, dawg. He was saying the same thing Method man said to me. I'm cemented already. I did it. I rhymed with Big. I rhymed. I'm awful.

[E]

World tour.

[A]

This is not about a verse, dog.

[E]

Hey, you got me.

[A]

You got me on the verse. Hey, kudos. But I'm who the fuck I am already. And Spesch seemed to miss that part. He just seemed cool with making his job a little harder. And I don't understand it.

[E]

He missed it because the entitlement was so loud. That's all I hear when he's speaking, is entitlement. I asked you for a verse. You didn't do the verse. You're not giving me a verse. I tried every which way to get the verse. And fuck all that life happening shit. What if he just don't want to do the verse? It's possible he's entitled to that. That's true. True. As a rapper, I'm entitled to say, hey, you know what? Or not right now. I'll get to you later on. You gotta, you gotta. You gotta get here.

[D]

Time out.

[E]

Time out. Talk about clout. This ain't clout. You're looking at an independent, free man.

[A]

Y' all never see me again.

[E]

I still make my money. Listen, homie, I own my music and other music.

[A]

Relax. Look at the credits.

[E]

I ain't just sitting here rapping. I came in this bitch spending my

[A]

money playing the same game that the Jews play.

[E]

You that take money from the Jews. You to take money from me. Let's get that understood. I don't want to talk to no, that's not bosses, homie.

[D]

See?

[E]

And say, yo, we gonna do this. I'm gonna do this.

[A]

And we just doing it because it's

[E]

the way of the industry. I'm sorry, y', all, I'm not used to the industry.

[A]

When people talk to me say, yo, give me their phone number that I

[E]

ain't asked for and say, yo, I'm gonna do this. For some strange reason, I believe I

[A]

that because that's the world I come. I'm pausing it. When people talk to you. Where 38 special. When what people talk to you? See, that's what I mean about you. That's running around I'm independent.

[E]

I'm independent.

[A]

I'm independent. No, you're going to see Busta Rhymes. You gonna see fucking. You're gonna see the people of the space in spaces. You gonna see that in Pergola, you're gonna see it in Buffalo, wherever the you at. So people are talking to you and they know who you are. Independence don't mean separate from that like you seem to keep saying.

[E]

So you put a in position that don't ask for nothing to ask you for something.

[D]

I know I don't ask for nothing,

[A]

dog, get over yourself, dog, get over yourself. Go out there and get some life experience, yo. And it hurts, hurts, it hurts. Coming from where we come from, all that we a man of our word. We, hey, all us is real niggas. Ain't nobody pussy. So then you get in the music business and the DJ say I'm a play your record and he don't play it. Then you go fucking, you go get with somebody, you give them your music. Yo, dawg, I think this shit fire I'm passing to somebody and they don't fucking pass it. This has been hip hop since 96. When I gave Chris Lighty my demo and expected a phone and was waiting by the phone. This is when we was bumping into niggas and passing them something, thinking that, oh my God, something about that. No, nobody's doing nothing for you, nigga. You can either get angry about it or you just work, work harder. Or you could just understand the game that you in and the position that you in. He gotta get over some of this stuff. The music business is not the land of realness, nigger. Actually, if you asking me, it's a trap for real niggas. The music business is designed to set you real niggas up because you come in with all your real nigga tricks close minded. And now you learn some Jewish tricks, or now you learn some lawyer tricks, or now you learn the tour tricks, or now you. And at some point it's meant to make you the real street nigga. Flip a fucking lid. It's like when the customer service people call, yes, sir. No, we cut your, we cut your lights off. No, we'll try to get that on immediately. No, if you can just be patient with us, we'll send somebody out there in 79 hours a day. They saying everything for you to say, yo, suck my dick. But you can't say it because then they're gonna hang up on you and you're gonna be a hole for the next 47 fucking minutes waiting for them to get back on the phone. It's a tricky game. It's not set up for real niggas to win. You niggas. I'm a real nigga.

[E]

I'm a real nigga.

[A]

I'm a real nigga. I'm a real. You're a real nigga. You a real nigga. Us to death, yo. Learn what the fuck is going on around you. And if you're a real nigga, then why you even fucking making the day hard for some other niggas who ain't gonna say nothing about you?

[E]

That's the thing.

[A]

He's saying what he's saying about Jim. Hey, Jim, you don't rap well enough. You don't qualify to join this conversation. True, but it don't take somebody rapping well to identify Jada K Kiss as one of the people that we just don't play with like that. Well, why does Jim got Jim?

[C]

Because Jim was making jokes about how he dressed or some like that. That's what that was about.

[A]

Well, that was at the end. That was at the end.

[E]

How did. How did the he and Jim kick off? Does anybody know?

[C]

I respect what he did.

[E]

He's in a game. Game gotta go. Come on, bro. You heard?

[D]

You dig?

[E]

And I. And.38 special is nice.

[A]

You heard, like, I dig it and like that. You dig? Come on, bro. You dig like you did.

[C]

Come on, bro.

[A]

This, this, this, this. You dig? But I get it.

[E]

So this is Jim, to Joe's point, Joe is saying special reminds him of him. At one point, Jim Jones was shooting at the top of the top of the top top. So now Jim Jones may be. Maybe. I can't speak for Jim identifying. Yo, I made that mistake that you making before you shooting at Jada. I shot at Jay Z. Yeah, but it was.

[A]

And at the end of this, he

[E]

got Roy cuz Royce came out. When Jim was shooting at Kiss, Royce was like, yo, dog, yo. Like, it's. It's. It's levels to this. Other people were saying, yo, it's levels to this.

[C]

But the point that is missing from the clip that he played is when he starts making fun of, like, oh, you dress without a wife beater on underneath your white shirt or something like that. Which is why he got to saying, don't even enter this conversation.

[E]

Got, you got.

[C]

Which I think is all fair play at that point. You're not even talking about rap. You. You coming in with a personal shot.

[A]

That makes sense. No, it don't.

[E]

No. You start cracking on me now.

[A]

I got.

[E]

I. I could. I could start replying to you.

[A]

You can do whatever the you want. Yeah, but why you're still trying to sell me? I know, man. Man me to death. You're trying to sell music and you're trying to fucking perform music. Anything outside of that is a distraction, dog. So, yes, you can get into a war of words over the Internet with Jim Jones, and a lot of people will think you right. However, Jim Jones, like he said in his reply, which I ain't gonna play. Cause why? Yo, dawg, if you say my name again, it's gonna be a hot summer. What that means? And again, ain't nobody pussy. But what that means is I have all the time in the world to put hurdles in front of you. That's what it means. And some, if you will. If you with that, then have at it. But is that the goal? Cause it started with you saying that you was the best and you know how to rap. And now I gotta bring a hundred niggas with me everywhere I go. I can't move around because it's gonna get shaken because I keep pissing other people off. After that Met the Man talk, it wasn't another festival where it wasn't. Where we wasn't ponying up for security. We taking that money out of the show money now. Joe Button said something. They Slaughterhouse hated me. Not Royce. That's my brother. Them other niggas. Oh, they fucking hated me. Wait, you mean Joe Budden keep running his mouth when he leave the group and go home on the Internet? And we got a baseball? Yes, yes, unfortunately. Because if not, it'll be tougher to get to the stage.

[C]

That's good of us.

[A]

It is connected. It's all connected. Even if you think it's not connected, there's people in here that know just how connected it is. This like Fat Joe and these niggas. And Fat Joe was in the comments saying, yo, I have no idea who 38 specialists. I don't know if that's true or not, but you open the door now for people with platforms and voices, people who are connected. Fat Joe was a media darling.

[E]

See, that's the other side.

[A]

Fat Joe is a media darling. Fat Joe was at the Garden. Fat Joe is on the Jenny Craig commercial. Fat Joe is hosting Wendy. Fat Joe, you don't know where you might see this nigga. He's selling hair products. He's got 30 years of relationship. Relationships is all I'm saying. Why are we bothering him? But we could. You could you could. Ain't nobody unbotherable. Don't think that that's what I'm saying.

[B]

But here's the problem. Here's where I got to give pushback. 50 came out shooting at niggas. When he did the whole how to rob, how to rob. I mean, it happens. People hit that road and the.

[A]

Their career.

[B]

50 came and shot at everybody.

[E]

I think that working

[B]

was upset, put hurdles, but he still overcame it. And he stood on. Stood on it. I feel like that that's his. His way of doing it. It's just a different time, bro. It's a different time. I get what you say. You speaking from a mature lens. You're speaking from a lens.

[A]

I'm speaking to somebody that's 41, though.

[B]

I. I didn't know how.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm not saying that he's immature. I never met him. I'm only going off what I'm seeing and how he's sounding. He don't sound like he has the greatest sense of humor. He sounds like he's ready to diss anybody, and he sound like he don't really give a fuck how anybody feels about anything that he's saying. And I'm saying that that's a dangerous place to be. Not saying that you'll be harmed. I'm saying that's a dangerous place to be.

[E]

But not just that. Yo, you going against, like, rappers that have rap media platforms that are successful in the media space. These could help you. That's the problem. You get what I'm saying?

[A]

Even without the verse, when you're independent, you could put. You've already turned that switch off. But that's the problem when you're independent and angry.

[E]

So now you want to. What I'm saying, but you want to piss them off.

[A]

That switch is turned off, though. I'm not looking for help. When I was looking for. For help, none of y' all help. He even does go on to say on this shit, yo, can't none of y' all help me. You niggas is rappers. I. I hire you. Whatever the fuck he was saying, it's like, well, slow down for a second.

[E]

Can't none of them help.

[A]

As an independent artist, if you get with another act who can bring more audience than you can get, that's a help.

[E]

Especially niggas that's loved who has huge fan bases.

[A]

Now, you may not want the help or feel like you need the help help, and you're not going out of your way to get it, but you can be Helped like I don't. Again, it's some of that.

[C]

Some of that. To interject in pushback. He was talking about how a lot of up and cominging rappers aim for respect or an audience from other rappers. And that should not be your goal. Your goal should be to get an audience from your fans and cater to them. That's what he was speaking about. That's true, but in relationship to other artists.

[E]

But those other artists can help.

[C]

They can.

[E]

If Drake is on your feature, of course. And you independent of, obviously, man, if. If, if Kiss were to do the record with him, there's a lot. Like Fat Joe said. And like you said, we don't know if he's joking or not. I don't know who this guy is. There's a lot of people who don't know who this guy is. But if it's Jadakiss feature, I might check it out. Oh, shit.

[B]

He is.

[E]

Especially with all the talk, oh, shit, this nigga's ill. That's why my whole thing is, why are you not rapping? I keep going back to that. You keep talking about rap. You got eyes on you now. You got niggas paying attention now.

[A]

Rap. Hey, listen, Ice is telling you to rap, and that may be good advice. That's what I always did. When my back was against the wall. I just started rapping. Hey, if niggas get hit, they get hit. Niggas want to come fight me, then we fight. That's it. But you talking to people who are in make a record world. And the niggas that scream, I'm independent. I'm independent, I'm independent. They almost say that so much. And I'm saying it because I was one of those people and still am. But you almost say it like, I'm not playing the game that they're playing. That's true. But you are in the make a record game. Jadakiss, you saw verses for all his great rapping ability. He has a lot of records, classics. Fat Joe with his fucking old ass ear still somehow knows how to make a record, especially even independent. You don't have the record record to say what you saying to these people that are not gonna play the back and forth rap game with you. They in the make a record game, Yo. I'll never forget. I say it all the time. Pump it up came out. I was that nigga and I could rap. And all the rapping niggas knew it. I was on Def Jam. That's when Def Jam meant that, hey, we over here play different Than y' all don't play with us, we'll end you. And I had a record, so now I could rap. And I had a record. And I was walking around like I was doing something. And Hov came saw me in the office. He pulled me aside. He said it might have been the first time he ever said something of significance. Really just a smug ass nigga. He said, hey, man, that record you got, you killing that shit,

[E]

but can

[A]

you come keep going? And he walked off like Yoda. And he walked off, nigga hit you with a Yoda. And at the time, I'm like, damn, what the was. What the was that about? But he was saying something that was so larger than macro, I was able to. Then I was able to see, hey, you caught one. Awesome. Good for you, little rapping nigga. But this game we playing, can you have another one in a couple months after that? Can you keep the people listening to you? That ain't rapper time. So. Yeah, especially like a record, a good record, like a record record ain't gonna hurt the independent artists. It ain't gonna hurt the major artists. Like, you have more in common with these people than is different, is all. And I'm rooting for you again. I can't wait for you to come up here so I can speak to you and get a better understanding and hopefully give you some of this face to face. But in 2026, none of you rap niggas gotta make all of the mistakes that me and your predecessors did. Y' all don't. Me and Ran went through this. Me and you got the example right next to you. Yo, Ran was there for me. Ran is there for you. Yo, we did the Internet beefing diss records, show up to each other's blocks, fucking fight. All this doofy goofy for what? It was exhausting. It was exhausting. By the time we met up in starlets and had to talk and he's like, yo, I went to jail. They told me you ratted on me. All that is really exhausting. I changed my life. No, it wasn't. It was starlets. See, it was. You was.

[E]

I was there, you wasn't.

[A]

And you was in starlets. If you was there, you was in stars.

[E]

When you used to come out, when

[A]

you used to come outside with me, when you was able to come outside. White lady, put it down.

[E]

I don't feel like it's time for

[D]

our favorite part of the show.

[A]

But anyway, I'm just saying you get older, you see these people.

[E]

When. When I.

[A]

When I seen Banks Anybody I ever beefed with. When I seen him, it was like, yo, dog, that was so exhausting. That was just time. It was time. I didn't want to do that shit is whack. Spes. Love you. Hope to talk to you soon.

[C]

Yeah, come back out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But be friendlier than you was up there with Esso Heineken. I'm about less laughs and fun. Don't come up here all extra angry, extra agitated. I ain't with none of that shit. I'm with a good vibe, God damn it. And please don't diss me. Please don't diss me. I'm chilling, man. I don't want no smoke with nobody. I'm just trying to offer help. That's one of my problems. When I listen to the podcast back and I hear my voice and sometimes I sound like I'm speaking with such conviction. It sound like I sound like some type of know it all that's judging everybody from their actions. Like. And I hate sounding like that. Cause what I'm really trying to sound like is just a nigga that been through some of this stuff. So I identify. So here, let me try to help a little bit. And hopefully I have. What else? What else is there? What else is there? Let's get Mark in the game.

[D]

Why you part of the years.

[A]

Quiet. Let's get to part of the year.

[D]

You were giving sage rapper advice. I'm not a sage rapper.

[B]

You know what I mean.

[A]

You never wrote a verse.

[D]

Of course.

[A]

You remember how I started.

[C]

I know it was some scientifical madness up in that.

[A]

You remember how I started?

[D]

Of course. I still do a freestyle in my head.

[E]

Oh, we gotta hear some of that.

[D]

Yo.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

I just wanna. I just want the opening line.

[E]

I'm cool. Idris on the mic.

[A]

Come on. Can we get the opening bar?

[B]

Nah.

[D]

But.

[A]

Nah, nah.

[D]

Certain things you. I've learned about this podcast, it's a safe space.

[C]

It is very safe space.

[D]

Very safe. I've never felt safer. Guillotine?

[B]

No.

[A]

Anyway, you were saying Conor McGregor.

[D]

You weren't at the show. I thought maybe you were watching the fight. I was gonna ask you if you. If you peeped it.

[A]

I saw it. I didn't watch the fight, but I saw what happened.

[D]

You ain't missing. You saw the fight.

[B]

Then it was.

[D]

It was. Pretty much everybody was hyping up this Conor McGregor pay per view, you know, fight. I. I wasn't gonna watch it. I'm sort of. I really like Conor McGregor as a fighter, but as a human Being not so much. So I don't watch him. But that fight lasted just a few seconds. He got this nasty leg injury. Blew out his knee. What'd you say? Flip.

[B]

He blew out his knee.

[D]

He blew out his knee. It looked like his right knee, if I remember correctly. And a lot of people thought that it was a conspiracy like that he didn't just happen to get injured at the beginning of the fight, but that it was just a hustle to get everybody money and to get him out of there. Well, what did y' all think? I don't know if y' all saw.

[C]

I didn't watch that bullshit. I'm not a UFC guy.

[E]

Me neither. I don't. I don't really watch, but I could see that. I could see the scam happening. If that's the case.

[C]

Has it even.

[A]

It makes sense.

[C]

Retired.

[D]

Yeah. And so that was kind of the. That was kind of the hustle, like another hustle. That was the buildup. Like, he's out the game. He's back. He's one of our most visible fighters. We fresh off the 250, you know, at the.

[E]

At the White House.

[D]

Let's get this straight.

[E]

While the iron hot n. Yeah.

[D]

And he came out looking. Everybody bit his age.

[E]

So. So what I read, it was two different points. It was one that he might have gotten hurt during training, and they just masked it so that the fight can continue on because so many resources have already been pumped into promoting the fight,

[D]

and they want delay putting the fight

[E]

on so they ain't want to. You know what I mean? Because then they would have lost bread as a collective. So in that instance, I could see that. That happening, but I don't think he necessarily did it for himself, for the bag. I think that nigga's ego might be

[A]

a little too big.

[E]

Went out there thinking, I could still go.

[A]

You thinking?

[E]

Like, I don't think he would have damaged his legacy or his brand by just doing some like that for the bag. I don't know him.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Look at how big the bag is.

[E]

That is true.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

That's a whole lot of people that did damage their Legacy.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

In 20, 30 million, they don't take a lot.

[A]

You're right.

[E]

That's true.

[C]

That's a lot.

[A]

Yeah. Definitely more. Takes more than rape, right?

[D]

What? Right.

[A]

God. Damage his legacy.

[D]

That's a too.

[E]

Counterpoint.

[D]

Yeah. Which. Which is why I don't watch him, by the way. That's. That's the reason why I don't support him. Because, you know, you got Mark There we go.

[A]

Let's come back around.

[D]

That's why I said, as a. As a fighter, I like them. As a human being, I don't. That's what I was talking to. I just want to use. I didn't want to put a trigger word because I care about the psyches of our audience. But, yeah, man. Anyway, we ain't got to talk about it, but since we're talking about scams,

[A]

it looked like a scam. Listen, I'm all for a good scam. I don't really fuck with Conor McGregor. I don't give a fuck about what's happening with him, but I'm for a good scam. It looked like his leg was fucked up. It looked like his opponent kept trying to have mercy on him. He's like, yo, he's done. Please end this shit. But I think, like, y' all said that could have got done in training for the fight. I think it's too much money at stake. They wasn't calling that shit off. They. They wasn't putting that on the injury report.

[D]

Yeah, especially for ufc. Cause you're gonna snap some shit anyway in ufc. Like. Like, it's not. You know what I mean? Like, if it's a traditional boxing, you might feel differently about it, but ufc,

[E]

you could say it happened in a fight.

[D]

Yeah, there's a big chance of it.

[E]

Of it happening in the fight.

[A]

It's our greatest marketer who's off a five year hiatus. Yeah, I'm looking at the cash register. I'm not really. I'm not announcing. No, no. Hey, suppress that. Don't tell a soul.

[E]

Tiptoe on, everybody.

[A]

Icy hot, right?

[E]

Just get out there and get the ring.

[A]

Put some ice on it. Can you walk, then walk out? Can you get in your fighting stance at least? If you give me three seconds of fighting stance, I give you a con. I'll do you one better. I'll even start out with a flying kick. They'll really not suspect a thing. Oh, if you could do that, my nigga. If you could start with a flying kick, after that, we could end this. Yeah, I think that's what Dana White. That's our picture.

[E]

Listen, man, I don't see it.

[A]

Listen, UFC world, they was in it. Oh, my God. I can't believe this. Oh, please.

[D]

Yes. We found even better scam than that.

[E]

Yeah, let's talk about the real scam, man. Yeah, man. My God. Booy, man, Got him. Oh, man, they got him. Yo, Booy went out

[A]

saying they got him. Like he's not they Booy Day. Yes. Boosie's day.

[E]

Oh, day got Boosie.

[D]

Break it down.

[A]

How you think they got him?

[E]

I'm about to tell you. Boosie went out and paid 600,000. 600,000 to two right wing.

[A]

To them.

[E]

To them. An attempt to get him a parting. They told him that they'd be able to get him a pardon from Trump

[A]

for his voice charge.

[E]

So he paid them 600 grand.

[D]

Sheesh. I wish he to call me. I could have got him a. I

[E]

said, somebody got to connect me with Boozy. I can get it done for 250. Well, and now he's suing them for 300 grand. Cuz he want at least half of that back.

[D]

How you come with that number?

[C]

I guess it was in the contract that you're supposed to get half back.

[D]

Oh, got you. I'm like, you scared me. For six. I'll settle out of court. Three.

[A]

Look at.

[E]

He can't believe this.

[D]

Hey, yo.

[A]

Hey, dog.

[E]

We just embarrass ourselves sometimes.

[B]

What?

[E]

Yo, you know is high fiving like a motherfucker.

[A]

That shit. Clear. Hold up, dog.

[E]

Time out. How you gonna sue a for some that's illegal in the first place? Cause he figured they doing all this illegal shit you see on the news.

[A]

I'm gonna come to court and say,

[E]

yo, I tried to bribe this person to do something that's illegal, but I

[A]

want half of my money back.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

Is it technically illegal? I don't know. I'm asking.

[C]

I don't know.

[D]

Or is it like lobbying? Like, I'm gonna lobby for you.

[E]

For me to take some money for you from you and say, yo, I'm gonna use my connection with the president to get you a pardon.

[C]

It sounds illegal.

[E]

Maybe it is. But they might have dressed it up. They might have dressed it up a little differently.

[B]

I'm not sure.

[D]

Cause the pardon is legal. And me saying, please, the pardon is legal. Right. And me lobbying on your behalf is legal. So I'm not sure why me taking money to lobby on your behalf. To lobby on your behalf is legal.

[A]

And if it was legal, it's illegal. Then it's not illegal with this administration.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

You know what time it is?

[E]

I'mma come to court and say, y' all want half of my bread back.

[D]

Yeah, that's. That's what makes me think it's. I'm going. Look, I. I don't know. So I'm going to say that clear.

[E]

I don't know. It's not illegal.

[D]

I don't think it is.

[E]

It might not be.

[D]

I can't think of any part of it that would be okay. You know, I can't think of any part of it.

[C]

Sounds like bribery to me, but I could be wrong.

[A]

But it's not bribe because you're not bribing the president.

[D]

No, you're not.

[C]

Got it.

[D]

I'm. I'm asking you to advocate. Advocate for me.

[E]

Got you. You know him. I mean, also your man. And give me. And how your man hooked me up.

[A]

Well, if he was asking me to advocate for you, then the result wouldn't matter.

[E]

Then the result wouldn't matter. I tried. It ain't work. So what money.

[D]

And that's what the devil's in the details.

[E]

That could be where he feels scammed at.

[D]

He said maybe you didn't advocate for me. Maybe you never were going to. Maybe this. Maybe this wasn't something you were ever going to do. You just took my money and sat on.

[A]

Or did.

[E]

And he said, I came to you. And in our conversation, I told you, yo, I could definitely make this happen. I gave you a guarantee, yo, for 600, I got you.

[A]

He'll do it.

[E]

That's my man. I know how to. We got this. Pay me that, you'll get your part. And when that never came, it's like, yo, oh, well, he ain't do it. So now that's why he might feel scammed just because he don't know the game.

[D]

Might be. Cause, you know, Washington is designed to have basically bribery be legal. I mean, that's what lobbying is. The whole way I pay you, and then you go get this law passed. I mean, it's like literally what it is.

[E]

Clay Davis.

[D]

Exactly. So, again, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't wanna say, but it would seem to me that as long as President Trump don't get the money, it's not illegal. It sounds like boosie. I mean, he definitely got scammed. It sounds like people had no intention of ever helping him.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

Or if I say, yo, I got in line to the president and I don't. Yes, but it's still not.

[B]

That's what I say.

[D]

It's not illegal.

[E]

I don't think it's a lie.

[A]

It ain't illegal.

[E]

It's just a lie.

[D]

It's just a lie. That's all I'm saying. I'm not convinced it's illegal. I think they just. It's just.

[A]

We got it.

[D]

Yeah. So if that's the case, I think he can go to court. He might get it back. He Might get half back to me. It's just so embarrassing.

[E]

Well, if you facing some years, I'll take any measure I can to try to not get the case.

[D]

I'd be embarrassed. I'm okay being embarrassed at home. Yeah.

[C]

Shit.

[D]

What's the charge?

[E]

It was a. I believe it was a gun charge. I'll double check. I'mma check it real fast.

[B]

He had a gun. He was shooting a video and they. Right, they.

[E]

Yeah, and they saw him with a gun and.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would definitely. I would definitely try that too.

[E]

Yeah, it was. It was possession of a firearm as a felon.

[B]

Got it.

[D]

Yeah. She picked the wrong time to do it too. I think if he had just went around like. Like the other rappers did.

[C]

Just vote for Trump, took some pictures,

[D]

took some pictures, did a little bit lobbying, I think he'd have been just exactly. I think he'd just.

[A]

You could almost edit my commentary on any boosie topic. Just drop it in to every boosie.

[E]

It's the same everything.

[A]

It's exactly the same. I'm even listening for you.

[E]

Oh, damn.

[A]

What he did. Did he want it? All right. He had a gun at the video shoot. As a felon. Oh, you could have took my take from and moved it right there. Boosie is fly it like a hook, right?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Boosie's entertaining, though.

[C]

Yeah. That is.

[D]

Have y' all ever been scammed for something?

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

What's the most. What's the most you've been scammed for?

[C]

25.

[E]

25.

[C]

No, I'm joking. I. I don't know. Off top.

[A]

No. It was one afternoon in Times Square with a three car. Money had a grip on me. I just couldn't come to grips with what was happening. I just kept putting hundreds down.

[D]

Are you serious?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. When I tried to figure it out. My whole childhood was me trying to figure that out. I was young.

[D]

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

I was young. I was young.

[D]

Okay, okay. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

My whole childhood was just me trying to figure it out on my own. Them niggas was good at that shit.

[B]

Yeah, they are.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I lost a lot of money.

[E]

Where the queen at? Where the Queen?

[B]

It's a group of them together. The lookout as a group.

[A]

I was on my way up town to cops and drugs. I spent all my cop money. Yeah. I had to go back home

[C]

on high as hell.

[E]

You already mad?

[B]

I got scammed for my Facebook page before, nigga. Right, Right during. About to be Covid.

[D]

She never showed up.

[B]

No, nigga. Nah. Not a girl. I got scanned for my Facebook page.

[A]

Like, girl.

[B]

They told me that I was gonna make a lot of money and shit. One of them shits. They had the business link and all that. Signed up. Shout out to Ian, though. Ian just introduced me to some meta people.

[C]

Oh, that's what's up.

[B]

So he's working on getting my Facebook page from six years ago.

[C]

Oh, that's what's up, man.

[B]

Shout out to Ian, man. He invited me to some meta event.

[A]

You rapping that was selling, huh?

[B]

I'm shouting out the white man. Don't interrupt. Thank you. Shout out to Ian again, man.

[A]

Yeah, you white. I mean, not. Not white. You rapper. Dude that was selling mixtape drops to. To the fans during company. That was a good scam.

[D]

That's a good scam.

[C]

I see you working out out there. Let's. Let's.

[B]

The ones that were doing the D, the ones that kept recycling the verses too, to the ones in the DMs old. They cook some of my man like that.

[A]

That's the worst feeling in the world when some bum rapper give you the brown bag money for a verse and then you give him the verse and then you hear the song somewhere.

[E]

He wasn't supposed to hear that.

[A]

Like, God damn PR budget. These niggas had the money for a little. A little radio run. Oh, shit. Oh, man, that's funny. Y' all know I always appreciate a good scam.

[D]

Me too.

[A]

I do.

[C]

600's a nice one.

[E]

That's a nice scam, boy.

[A]

Six.

[C]

I mean, it's two guys, so they had to split it.

[A]

I do need somebody else to come out and tell me that that's what happened with Boosie.

[E]

Can't just take it from him.

[A]

No.

[D]

Oh, you think you could be making

[B]

up the whole shit, dawg?

[A]

I believe Boosie to. I saw a video of someone trying to break in Boosie's house, and the dog came and attacked the intruder and saved the house. Boosie put that video out and that was the most staged looking video I had ever seen in my life. And I said, yeah. I said, oh, if a will stay. Boosie's like Jussie Smollett to me. Oh, Jesus. He just said he. He'll fake some just for.

[E]

Just to get it going on.

[A]

Yeah. So I can't believe nothing he say. And 600k on the pardon tip

[C]

she's over too high.

[E]

It wouldn't make sense to me. It would if I ain't never have intentions My gave you a number if I could pay you 600,000 to get a pardon. Puff could have paid 6 million and got a pardon. Other people that got way more money than Booy could have paid more money and gotten a pardon. Different charges, though. So.

[A]

Hey, Booy, your name is is right? There's a list of people that's not ever getting a part. It's you, Lil Nas X and the Tiger King. The Tiger King is still mad. He ain't get pardoned,

[B]

man. What's his name? Avery. Steven Avery. All them, man. Steven Avery's still in jail. All them.

[A]

That's what they is. Tiger King. Once they got to oh, then that's what talking about. Oh, I might be talking about the Ty King, dude.

[B]

The Ty King is the guy with the animal. Steven Avery is the guy that did time, came home and then he said that the whole government and he's in there for life now. Forgot what I forgot. Where this from?

[C]

The Netflix.

[B]

Do the Netflix.

[D]

How to.

[B]

How to make it a make a murderer.

[C]

I forgot it was. It was lit in like 2018. We talked about that.

[E]

Oh, yeah. Make it just a point. Make a murderer.

[D]

Just the point of fact.

[C]

It was early and the Netflix murder doc.

[D]

Anyway, just a quick update is what I thought. It's a lobbying firm and it is legal to do this. He just. There's a clause in the contract that says if we don't get you your money, I mean, if we don't get you the thing, you get a hat, you get 50% back. And they're saying that isn't really in the contract.

[A]

Boosie. 300,000. I can put your name at the top of the list now. What happens when it gets to the top? That's beyond my control, my reach.

[D]

They told him you're making real movement through wide Washington right now. We're really making a move. I'm dead ass. He told him they said we. Because he said. He says that they told him they had a direct. He said that was the issue was that they made it seem like he had a direct line of Trump.

[C]

This is the exact thing that the the rappers are doing.

[D]

Yo, this is like I'm straight.

[B]

He said he has Kamala as well.

[D]

Huh?

[E]

This is Stringer Bell and Clay Davis.

[D]

Oh, no. I believe. I believe he asked.

[A]

He wrote it.

[D]

Kamala. Kamala. Exactly.

[A]

Exactly what it is. Clay Davis. 75 grand. I can get you TSA pre check and clear. 150 grand. I can get you that global pass. What is the global entry? Global. I can get you global entry. You got global entry. How you gonna See hov in London in the regular line. Look, we ain't got no global entry.

[B]

You can pay for pre check, right?

[A]

I got pre check clear.

[E]

Pre check ain't clear. It's only domestic.

[D]

You got clear.

[A]

Are you going to.

[E]

That's the one.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You need clear and you clear. Joke, huh?

[D]

St my joke, man.

[A]

You didn't hit it fast.

[D]

I was trying to pace it.

[A]

I stole it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You buddy passing it to London or

[B]

like you spending some money he got the companion passing?

[A]

That's what I'm asking him.

[B]

Buddy is different from companion.

[A]

Oh, are you companion passing money out there?

[E]

Spend money on a companion pass?

[A]

Who you going out there with by yourself? My girl. Right, Yeah, I can see. Yeah, I like it.

[C]

She like Jay Z?

[B]

Is she likes Jay Z?

[C]

She does that.

[B]

Well, she's supporting you, the world.

[E]

Like Jay Z got you.

[D]

How long you going to be out there?

[E]

Four days.

[A]

All right, Couple strip.

[E]

No, just me and my girl.

[D]

That's dope. I mean, you can actually kick it.

[A]

I'm coming out. Y feel like we commit a crime by asking him. I feel like we like robbing a bank coming out there, boy.

[B]

I dare you. I dare you. Act like you don't know me out there.

[E]

And you taking the camera.

[B]

Yep. I ain't gonna record this girl, though.

[A]

No, no, no. You gonna be on some love folks and shit. Or rapping hands.

[E]

It depend on the song. Can I live? We asking a question. What you gonna do? All right.

[B]

Can't wait to see you, bro.

[A]

Yeah, that's it, man. Can't wait to hear about it. All right, what else, what else, what else, what else, what else?

[C]

Packing sh. Charlamagne, or you wanna do that on Patreon?

[A]

No, hell no. We ain't doing that on Patreon. What the hell's wrong with you? We fucking waited all this time for this fucking sit down and we got it.

[C]

Y' all didn't sound too enthused, so.

[E]

Nah, nah, nah.

[D]

It was a good sit down.

[C]

It was.

[D]

I know a lot of people were worried that it was gonna be all kind of stage performative Kumbaya because they talked ahead of time, according to reports.

[E]

My report.

[D]

You told me that. And so. So I was surprised at how. What's the word?

[E]

Transparent?

[C]

Combative.

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say spicy, but I was trying to find a more masculine way. But, like, it was good. I liked it. I thought. Not that it's a competition, but I thought Charlamagne got the upper hand in terms of his responses.

[E]

I thought the same I thought so, too.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But I mean, he was kind of giving him OG advice. At some point, it kind of turned

[D]

into that, you're right. Upper hand's not the right word. But he. I didn't know how.

[A]

That's upper hand, too. Yeah, that is upper hand.

[D]

I was just saying Charlamagne came away looking strong and some of the stuff that might look questionable beforehand afterward. Just to give one concrete example, academics had talked about before on his live stream how Charlamagne had advised him to walk off the show. To walk off y' all show. And that does sound like questionable advice to give somebody without context. Charlamagne gave his side of that, which was, you know, you're calling me. I'm watching it as well. I'm watching the show. You're being treated in this way. If you're being treated in this way, you should establish your value by leaving. I didn't say walk off in the middle of a show, but I was saying, like, walk away if you feel like you're not being respected. There's some disagreement about the details, but when you put it in that context, it didn't sound like he was giving them kamikaze. It makes more sound like he was giving him some. Some, like, big homie advice. You can agree or disagree about who's right, but just him giving his side to me, he came away looking good. He came away looking strong.

[E]

I know when we first heard they were going to sit down, I was saying I didn't want them to do it publicly. And Charlamagne, one of them, I think it was Charlamagne made a real good point. He was like, you know, we doing this to put it out, because once they go back to their corners, then they'll come out and say, yeah, we talked, and this. This happened. Now you're giving two different versions of it. Nobody really gets to see it. So that's a great point. I walk that back. That was a really good decision to put this out there.

[D]

It was.

[A]

And a great content piece. Yeah, they. They led up to something. The anticipation was high, and then they dropped it and they delivered. I appreciate that much. Like Mark, I felt like Charlemagne got the better him. Charlamagne, with his clear skin and lotion skin, is a different monster to deal with than old Ashley Charlamagne. Like this. This guy looked just present aware. He looked on point. He looked like he had. Charlamagne is in the radio hall of fame.

[E]

Charlamagne sounded like he was logical and rational.

[A]

He sounded like a real adult elder statesman kind of. He Sounded. Yeah, exactly. And I guess for me, I was expecting act. Like I was believing the newspaper clippings. Act was in his room sounding like, yo, I'm number one now. The people I looked up to, I'm that now. And I'm coming in there to really lay it down. I'm on Drake's side. You on Roc Nation side. I don't like the lies you over there telling. And you should sit. He. He probably won't sit face to face with me because I'll expose him and be so honest and transparent. I was believing some of that mix.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So when they got there. And Charlamagne is just using logic.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

When he's like, yes, I look up to Jay Z, and if he asked me to be a part of a business venture, I 100% would love to do that. If Drake asked you to be a part of a business venture, wouldn't you love to do that? Like, he just kept. Some people call it spin master shit. But what he was able to do to all of ACT's main points was just make them look really insignificant, significant, look really small. The George point with the. Yo, all these lawsuits are coming. Hey, real quick, what are the names on the lawsuits? Because you keep saying Roc Nation. Roc Nation.

[E]

Roc Nation.

[A]

And that's really. We held them to the fire. And he kept saying, yo, you're on the Internet saying that Roc Nation's trying to kill you. You was coming up here with security guards. Because Roc nations, yo, you're the only person saying this. Jay Z don't know you. If he do know you, he ain't talking about you. He ain't thinking about you. DEZ ain't said nothing about you. Like, where are you getting stuff from? What names are on the actual lawsuit? So you could tell your audience, hey, these are the people that are suing, and this is why they're suing.

[E]

No, but then he said, yo, dawg, if you think these people are really trying to kill you, it ever cross your mind to stop. Like, if I think a trying to kill me, I'm a stop. If I'm not willing to kill them back, that's just old head brain. Like, if you think that this entity has all of these tentacles and all of this influence, cool, you may be right. So stop playing with them and.

[A]

And then I call it, give you a heads up because you're my man. And somehow you turn that into,

[E]

I'm

[A]

working with these people and we trying to bring you down. And, hey, where is your proof of these Things that you keep saying on the Internet. Like, that was a point that he kept driving home and listen, I think that act may have had some valid points. Like when he started talking about when he was trying to say that Roc Nation is fighting like a proxy battle, so he'll never have the evidence to support. I think that if. If ACT could have flushed out his thought process, he may have delivered that talking point better. But he didn't. Also, the website that Charlamagne pulled up where, when ACT went home, he said, hey, this is an AI website. This website was created a couple days ago. Charlamagne wouldn't know that. That's fine when you back to your headquarters saying it, but in the moment when Charlamagne said, I think this is a credible website website, you didn't give any of that. So it's about how it looked on air. Charlemagne also looks like he listens better than act. That's important when you're talking to somebody. I'm not saying that he does listen better. I'm saying he looks alike.

[D]

He came off.

[A]

He listens better. And then by the time he was able to paint you as this paranoid, manic person, now we've lost the plot. Now we've lost the.

[E]

Lost the plot where he. When he was breaking down the Drake shit to him, and he was like, yo, I caught. You know, I was trying to give them the heads up about the reference tracks. He was saying the way Drake handled it so you can get ahead of it. They were prepared for it.

[D]

They.

[E]

They took the. Basically jumped on offense and was able to. When they did come out, they was cool. He kind of tied it back. And I think AK missed it the way he was doing. He kind of tied it right back to him. Yo, I called you to give you a heads up. And instead of being prepared with the information, you was more concerned with where I got it from. And because I didn't give you that up, it just became A versus me. And you missed. You like, you kind of missed the whole. This whole shit blew up because you focused on the wrong thing. Like, if somebody call. If one of y' all called me, like, yo, such and such is about to happen, cool. I might want to know where you got it from, but I also want to prepare for that later. Tell me later. We'll deal with that part. And that's where it kind of. It seemed like it just went left between the two. Two of them. Soon as I called you with this, your man is on my neck. The next day, Charlamagne was better at just cross examining, like, yo, I'm gonna take the information. You saying, I'mma process the information in real time. And now I'm gonna say, okay, you just said X. And it kind of stumbled at.

[A]

Yeah, he couldn't.

[E]

He couldn't take it.

[A]

Well, listen, I kind of felt something. I kind of felt something was a little. Once they did the interview and ACT was the person to come back to the interview, Internet first with his thoughts on how it went. I've never seen that go well. I've never seen the person that reports back first, one, give an accurate depiction of what the fuck just happened. And two, fucking yeah. Give an accurate depiction of what just happened. And then we see it and say, oh, shit. Everything that person said was, I've never seen that happen. So, yeah, it just. It didn't. And I knew that even from when Charlamagne was like, yo, I'll talk to you in person. It's like, oh, you gotta be. And that's the other thing about act, which is the point that I keep trying to tell him that he don't listen to me because he does really love Charlamagne.

[E]

You could tell he loves it. You can see it. You could tell.

[A]

Not only that he loved, which is important. A deep, deep, deep, deep respect for that man.

[E]

I can tell.

[A]

Then shut up. When you go home in your. In your little stream, then shut the up. Because part of the war is it got to stop it. Respect.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I respect you. You got to respect your opponent. All that deep reverence and admiration and in awe of and looking like. I'm not saying this is true, but what I could say is true. I looked up to him. I still look up to him. He kind of mentored. You could see that. Even with all Axe experience now and his accolades. And he's him now too.

[B]

Ax is him.

[A]

But you could still see the green.

[E]

You know what?

[A]

I don't like the wet behind the ears. When it come to you talking to somebody that you love and have a reverence for.

[E]

And that's just way older. It's way older than you. It's been in different rooms as you. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Just stop making it seem like you want that smoke. Don't get in your room. Cause that's where I was confused, too. One minute when I talked to him.

[D]

I love.

[B]

I love a lot.

[A]

And then he get in the street, and it's me looking like he want that smoke. In order to want that smoke, you gotta lose the reverence.

[E]

Performing, bro. Still a Job.

[A]

It ain't performing if now you get in front of the nigga and you didn't do exactly what you said you was gonna do. You didn't drive your points home. I'm not talking about beef with the nigga. I'm talking about be able to fully flush out the things that you wanna say.

[E]

I'm talking about the streams. The streams are work.

[A]

This was work. This was work.

[E]

Little different though.

[D]

Yes. Little difference.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Still content.

[A]

This was work.

[E]

I get yes and no. It's both.

[D]

And here's why. Because, like, if I think it is work, because if you come away looking not as strong as you could, it affects the other part of your work. It affects the date. Like he's building a fan base partly or feeding his fans.

[A]

It's work. It affects your work. You gotta. You gotta. Now they had that interview and now for the next few days, A is on his stream explaining his side from the interview. No, that's work. Now out. You've altered. You've altered work. Anything that's going out is work.

[E]

Yeah, okay.

[C]

Went out on his channel. Both their channels.

[D]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

It's work. People are gonna have opinions on this debate style thing that y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Y' all did. And he just didn't come out looking as strong as he probably would have looked if he was in his room. But again, I even enjoyed that part of it. I enjoyed the chess match of hall of fame radio Guy versus guy who made his bones in his room. Like. And now it's the clash of routes and ideologies and psychologies and yeah, the streaming shit is cool. Talking to your computer is cool. Ack is that nigga, Please don't mistake what I'm saying. He's that nigger. It's a different skill set and skill sets that Charlotte main ass.

[E]

Yeah. Because now you got to reply in real time when you. When you on a stream, you talking. You don't have nobody interjecting. You don't have nobody scrambling your train of thought up here. We can get into a conversation and I can have my thing planned out, but then you start screaming, you start yelling and some. That you meant to say. You totally forget your point. Yeah.

[A]

And it's only. But so many ways that this is going to go when I know that the person across from me looks up to me.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

You look up to me, dog.

[B]

When you look up to somebody and

[A]

you go there, man, it's true.

[B]

Yo, you're not gonna go with this.

[D]

Why?

[A]

I don't pay them your little jokes. No mind you be saying to me.

[D]

I know.

[E]

Cause you look up to me.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Like, I understand. Like, you look like I'm who I am. So like you. Like you joke.

[B]

So you saying that when you go against somebody, if you looked up to them, you have to lose all the love for them in order to win the battle.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think you have to. I don't think so.

[D]

I don't think you have to. I don't have.

[B]

But I do think that's a yeah,

[A]

but ain't none of you about war. So I don't care what y' all saying.

[B]

That's not true.

[A]

What did y' all go to war with where you had to now adopt a different mentality on some Navy seal? We go into war, anytime I walk outside, it could be something. Who of you.

[B]

But you're not trying my street shit. You're not trying to go.

[A]

Yes, it was.

[B]

Hold on, hold on. Stop.

[D]

I was saying that before you said it. Not street.

[A]

Yeah, not street shit. I ain't never talking street shit.

[B]

One time. One time, nigga. One time I looked up this. I look up to Star. One time Star pulled the trigger on me and got at me and was saying things. He was willing to take it some way that I wasn't willing to take it. I'm not willing to go there with you.

[D]

Why?

[B]

Because I respect him.

[A]

That's what the fuck I'm saying.

[B]

You saying what I'm saying? What I'm saying is that you can still get into a vicinity of somebody you respect and still hold Joe saying

[D]

you can't win if you take that

[A]

approach, dog, you gotta be ready to.

[B]

You do agree.

[E]

Let me ask you.

[A]

Because you didn't turn up on the.

[E]

That you looked up to.

[B]

I don't agree. You don't have. I feel like.

[E]

Do you feel you won?

[B]

No, because I didn't go at that battle.

[E]

You confirming this point?

[B]

But listen, what I'm saying. I'm saying that. Yes, okay, we confirming this point that you may not win. I'm saying that when you go into. I'm speaking to the point of if you respect somebody. I don't think that depending on where you come. Come from, you could just easily turn it off and I'mma start disrespecting you now.

[E]

That's.

[B]

That's the point I'm trying to make.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I can't. I. I understand. Act like I. I couldn't just start with saying mad. I couldn't just. I'M not gonna. I looked up to you too long to just all of a sudden now you can say whatever you want, cuz you probably don't have the same respect that I have for you.

[E]

For me, right?

[B]

But I can't just turn it off and start disrespecting you, cuz it goes against my whole ideology.

[E]

Basically. Even if you wanted to go there,

[A]

you couldn't do it.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I'm talking about the wrong points and I apologize. Say nigga, if you get me mad and sadly I can't find my. You have to say something. I can't find myself just going at you like that. I can't. It's just not. It's not how I'm wired. Maybe you would say, yo Flip, hey nigga, I put you on, nigga. Hey Flip, I had to you if I had to push you there. But I couldn't go there with you. It's just too many things at play.

[A]

But there's also no part of our relationship that today or to me could ever appear adversaries Cereal. Like when me and you were doing whatever we doing for me.

[B]

Content.

[A]

It's content matrix in real life, I'm not never doing none of that with you. Except for that one time we almost did that. But outside of that's. That's not what if.

[E]

If.

[A]

If it's time to. If it's time to turn it up, which is how a made it seem from his room, then I expect you to come in, say okay. But through the whole thing, all we heard from Charlemagne was. Was, big bro, hey yo, when you was up over here, I'm the that said such and such. Yo. I'm the that called you and said look out for this. I'm the that called. And yada yada. All we. When we hear that all the way through, it's hard to see it from whatever POV academics is talking about.

[E]

You know what it sound like.

[A]

And even that's part of the spin that you not going to be prepared for because of your reverence. That's part of the spin.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

It sound like. It almost sound like the whole line Wave said I could never beef with Meek. I freed him from a whole bit. It's like I'm well exact.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

I can't.

[A]

It ain't gonna get there. Hey, I see y' all saying it's beef. It's impossible for it to be. And that's how Charlamagne is carrying it. Which. Which. Which enables him to. And I'm not saying this is true to anybody listening. But if he did have some underhand, undercut feelings or something toward ACT is always able to hide behind your dog. I was there for you. I helped you. I gave you this contact. I told you this like it'll never be. And that's why for act, it's always ACT was in that room against fucking Professor X. So ACT was in that room with somebody that was so in control in his head of all things things. And now you stuttering and now you talking fast and can't get your. That was a mess to me. That was an absolute mess. But I'm glad it happened. They look great. Yeah, they look great. I, I consumer content. I'm glad it happened. Kudos to both these. They did it right.

[E]

Salute to them.

[A]

See, but then that's why I'm mad too now. Too now I should wait for Mark to come back because Charlamagne is his man. How many times he. What piss number? What piss number?

[B]

Have you turned it off of somebody you respect and have you had to turn it off like somebody that you looked up to? I mean, I hear you talk about, I hear you talk about Wendy Williams. How much you respect. I don't know. I remember when she said funny things before. I don't know if you ever went at her. I'm just saying, like, was there anybody who said, you know what we're talking about? Angry Joe, not mature Joe that you

[A]

said, all right, no, no, that's never happened. Angry Joke.

[D]

Yo.

[A]

There was nobody there. Like I was shooting at Hole, but only cause he shot at me and we rappers, so it's the sport of I can't let you just keep thinking you shooting at me. Got it? At no point in my mind did I say I'm trying to kill this nigga and fuck him and yada yada, I'm on some rapper shit. But in real battle, anybody that I was at war time with, even with me and Charl, went back and forth. I respect Charlamagne. I've always had a respect for anybody. But past that, I never had a goal past that really. Ah, I was never trying to do that with nobody. Like I'm at I'm internally I'm on some peaceful. Like I'm at, I'm cool. I try to control me and how I feel and how I react and how I think and all of that Yoda type of.

[E]

But so, so, so I, I agree with most of what you're saying. I think that if academics would have come prepared, I think if academics would have had been able to execute. Execute his arguments and convey his thoughts better, he could have still had the same exact reverence, but still presented his thoughts.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Better like so I don't think you have to lose your respect and say you I'm gonna just throw everything out the window to be able to get in that ring and spar and even win. You can cave your reverence, but your facts and your ducks and all of your.

[A]

Listen, what I'm saying don't apply to these two. Cuz neither one of them was going to try to kill each other.

[E]

True.

[A]

I'm saying I drank the Kool Aid in thinking that an that's kind of

[E]

what we was a performance ax doing that. That's his superpower. That loves charlamagne.

[B]

He loves you.

[E]

He said it vocally a a zillion times. He holds you guys up high. Right. But he also feels like I'm here and I can stand on my two. My thing with us as, as, as, as men, especially black men, while everybody can't be the man. Like why do we got to dethrone the man to be the man Myself, I could be the man in my respective area. You could be the man in your respective area. This person could be the man in their respective area. We be in this competitive that we, we, we, we.

[A]

That's a farce.

[E]

What?

[A]

That is a dark matter universe separate from reality. There's answers to that question and I'm not.

[E]

Which part is the farts?

[A]

Why we can't. Why we can't. Why we can't, why we can't. There's answers to that.

[E]

No, you ain't. Tell me which part is the farts. That part that you could be with everybody. You could be the man in this area. You could be the man in that one. Like that.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm saying that part is true. But the whole issue not understand why we can't. It's so easy. Nah. Niggas is jealous. Niggas is envious. Niggas want what you got. Niggas are not. No matter how successful. Some niggas ain't comfortable with you having success. Niggas is gay community keepers. Like it's mad answers like, ideally, I'm with you. It's enough money and it's enough position to go around what seems to be the problem. But be having things that come into play.

[E]

A lot of times when it comes to securities, be loud and strong. And I think these don't really. To your point now, they don't really Believe they the man. Like, if you believe, yo, I'm the man in my own right. Like, I could look at. I could look at Jay Z and say, yo, that is the man. And I could look at Pharrell standing next to him and say, yo, that nigga's the man. And they both can be the man. They don't gotta be niggas trying to. Jermaine Dupri is the man. Like, I could look at all of these black kings and say, yo, all of these niggas are the man. They don't have to be trying to dethrone each other.

[A]

Charlemagne sounded great at talking about just the whole separation of fan bases and media people picking aside. Like, when he cornered him with that one, like, hey, why? You seem to be one of the proponents of that, pushing narratives and turning people. Why do you do that? Why can't be, hey, I enjoy the music, I enjoy him. I enjoy this person. He just, again, very logically laid out things that were pretty simple. But all of those things that are really entertaining for me, when AK is by himself in his room. When he's in his room, yo, paint every allure possible for me, please.

[B]

But is it an illusion? Right now, what I'm seeing is that,

[A]

yes, it's an illusion.

[B]

Jay Z.

[A]

Anything about academics.

[B]

Hold on, stop. I'm seeing more of the seasoned, seasoned podcasters, radio hosts and creators seasoned. Not taking into account that there are some infrastructures at play. When you say certain things online, that niggas is flagging your video, not allowing you to. To make money. Yes, you shouldn't say it, but then it still goes against the theory of being a creator and saying what I want. That is happening. If you say something about somebody, I got flagged. If you say something about somebody, somebody's wrong. The powers at play, the powers that have the power, they're flagging you. They're taking your video, they're getting you demonetized, and that affects other videos. That happens because you're thinking that you're. You're thinking that you're following a blueprint or you're thinking of, like, yo, freedom of speech. I can say what I want, man. I'm not, you know, making. It's not.

[E]

You got freedom of speech. You don't got freedom of speech.

[B]

And I, I get it, but we're talking about. As content creators, if you're content, it's a bunch of content creators right now that are being flagged. And it's not a joke. They're showing it. They're being Flagged and just for like, yo, I'm just doing what you did in hip hop, or I'm just doing what you did in the game. I'm just speaking my mind. Why do I have to go through this? So then now your month is effective. And they're not only flagging one video. They'll go back and flag the other shit when you did. Talk positive. So now if you get back to back to back to back to back strikes. Now it's a whole thing that comes with that. So of course you're gonna feel offended and go on an attack.

[E]

So it's happening. Let me ask you a question.

[B]

So I'm not gonna act like it's not happening because I'm fully aware. I seen it. I said something before. Hey, all right, Flip. We're gonna teach you a lesson, Bob. So now what I decided to do is that I don't need to talk bad about anyone in order to get views. That's how I looked at it. Let me go do my own thing. But there's a lot of shit I want to say.

[E]

Okay, cool. Go get your own platform. Create your own platform, and you can say whatever the you want to say. But as long as you're on this platform, you have to follow rules.

[B]

Follow. You know, you're not disrespecting YouTube rules. You're following rules of somebody that has the same.

[E]

Let me finish.

[B]

The same access that you have. But back to what you just cooler with somebody. That is

[E]

that rapport. Relationship matters. We just spoke about that. With 38 special. You could piss off some somebody who is cool with somebody else. And now, yes, I yield.

[B]

I got it.

[E]

Relationships is the world's currency. The real one. Okay, yo, if a nigga say certain shit about Joe Button, like some egregious shit about Joe Button, like I'm offensive. Like, yo, dog, I'm not gonna now support what you got going on. You could be right, you could be wrong, whatever the case may be. But my relationships matter. And it's this world. And that's something that got to understand. Relationships matter. When you get canceled or whatever the.

[D]

These big wigs pull your been there relationship.

[E]

Yes, Donald Trump. Look, watch this. We all despise Donald Trump in some way shape or form.

[D]

That one person.

[E]

Right my. We are negating the fact that Donald Trump has been outside playing with the Sharks for 50 years in New York City. You got 50 years, years of relationships so he can call somebody and make some shit happen. Whether he's right, whether he's wrong, whatever the fucking case may be my. I'm your kid's godfather. You might not know that when you saying this about this person, but that got a relationship with somebody. And it's a consequence to some that

[A]

you might say, yeah, it's just absolutely right. Prime example. It parks his butt naked on top of the Empire State Building. Seriously. With a megaphone in his head. And he's she always playing around. But no, Ish is right. I was joking around just now. But Ish is right. Like act talk about Roc Nation. The way I think about Trump. Like if I say the wrong thing, he could change.

[B]

You get flat.

[E]

Yeah, fuck flag.

[A]

Make it tough. You can make it tough.

[E]

Make it tough.

[A]

He can make it really, really tough. Wherever you are, that's the President.

[B]

Joe, we are aware that if you talk about the president a certain way when they talked about Barack, didn't Barack send somebody to a store one time? Remember? You know what I'm talking about, Mark, the guy had a sign outside about Barack Obama.

[D]

I don't know that story, but I get your point. But I was there. In this world, in this country, a lot of the most powerful people are the ones who aren't elected. It's the people who got the money.

[E]

All the money.

[D]

Yeah. And all this stuff. Every time you do, I think you're doing something else. Looking wild. No, Joe, he catch me up. This is not a safe work environment.

[B]

If you catch me me, I'm going with that.

[D]

I don't want to Mark.

[A]

It's only cuz I'm listening. I like to learn from what Mark is saying. I'll be listening to him. And only during Mark talk like this. And when he fix it, it still do like this. Like God damn it.

[B]

Talk like a smoking then Charlemagne in

[A]

the middle of what the consensus is is a dub, a W. They going, he getting so much of a W now he wants come talk to me.

[B]

Who would have talk to you?

[D]

He said, I'm talk to Joe next.

[A]

But he was in the middle of such a kick ass session that it dawned on him like a light bulb went wrong. That was like, you know what? I'm going to make the rounds, yo. So sweet out here. I'm going to talk. Not the rounds, Joe. Nah. Hey dog, what you talking? Hey dog, dog. Yo, you talking about Joe?

[B]

Get out of here.

[E]

Tumble dry.

[A]

I just don't know what the content piece would be. I'm open to it. I just don't understand what the content side of it is. Joe, stop it.

[C]

That is booked, man.

[A]

Knock it Off. What's the content part?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You and Charlamagne with y' all talking.

[E]

That's it. Professor X and Magneto sit down and have a conversation.

[A]

I'm not doing nothing. Charlamagne. Charlamagne. ACT shit is like real present and current. They was talking about all current things. Fucking Rob, you said this book already.

[C]

I'm joking.

[A]

Drake and Kendrick and George and the Clippers and like, it was so multifaceted with current shit. I feel like me and Jerome ain't no half none of that. It's like talk about how rich y' all are. Yeah. That's what it would. That's what it would be.

[B]

You started a Twitter community and who's richer? Like you started your own community. He got the Black Effect Network. Like that's what it's called, right? I'm saying yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, how we could come together to do positive and do good for communities and I don't think that's content. What's fun.

[B]

Should. I would do it.

[D]

I would do it.

[A]

Just awesome. Old time sake.

[E]

Some negativity, right?

[A]

No, no, no, no. I would.

[B]

I think they could push a button

[A]

to get into your bag, though. Cuz you.

[B]

You always got. You always got like six in the chamber.

[A]

I'm so at peace. I don't see it that way. I think he is too, and I don't. That's my point. What the are we talking about? Oh, he can hang. Yeah, come in.

[B]

That's fire.

[C]

You overthinking it.

[D]

That be fun.

[B]

South Carolina days.

[D]

That be great.

[C]

Overthinking it.

[A]

Look at Mark. That'll be great. You ain't set it up.

[D]

You want to set up.

[E]

I set it up.

[B]

You going be the moderator.

[D]

I. I'm moderating. I just bring the guests. Man.

[A]

Charlamagne, you did. You did good in that act. Talk dog. Don't say my name and no talk. Where you kicking ass?

[D]

That's what I.

[A]

That's what I got for you. Act. I love you. You my brother. You did good too.

[B]

But shout out to act.

[A]

You just did better when you went back to your room and was able to further explain some of your points. Because remember, and at no point in this did I say ack was wrong about anything. I'm not here to say who was right or wrong.

[D]

That's what I was. Yeah.

[A]

I'm only here to say who came off better and who articulated better in that moment. Act could be 100% right about people outside the door, possibly.

[C]

But that manic shit, it Sounds a little manic, though.

[A]

It does sound. It does sound that way. That's what. He should have been better prepared for that. Anyway, love them both.

[C]

It was a great conversation.

[E]

It was good.

[A]

Glad they had it. How do y' all feel about Bam punching Tyler, Tyler Hero in the face?

[E]

Is that what we know happened?

[A]

Oh, that's what happened. That's a fact.

[D]

That's not a dispute. Yeah.

[A]

How do y' all feel about it?

[D]

And this is.

[A]

This is right after Tyler went viral for saying, yo, do y' all think that he should be the max player? His mid range, he was talking shit about Bam. He put up some shit on Instagram about players that are not affiliated, effective from the mid range. And then that fan leaked his interaction with Tyler Herro when they were talking about Bam. So, I mean, you know that Bam is gonna see this at some point.

[C]

You got to be careful.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, I didn't like it. I understand how it happened.

[A]

That's why I never DM fans. You DM fans, some of them could be saying something that you want to passionately respond to, and then you say something. That's a fan. That fan is screenshotting. That fan is putting it out. That fan is telling somebody, even if they don't sell it, they're telling somebody. They sound. They calling tmz when you in fan world, you in fan world, not your world. So, yeah. Yeah, that was. I don't know why Tyler Hero got to talking like that about Bam, who don't have no problem telling people, yo, I'm gonna smack the shit out of you when I see you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I've seen him say that to about four different NBA players.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, and he's willing to follow through. I mean, I didn't like it. I mean, I, I, I'm. There was an interview where.

[A]

Which part you didn't like, Tyler talking or Bam?

[D]

I like every part of it. Everything you just said I agree with the dm. And they're talking about his teammate's back is fucked up. I remember watching the Bam interview or reading a transcript of a Bam interview where they said, like, what player do you think on the team has your back the most? And he said, tyler, oh, shit. You know what I mean? He said, partly because we've been there the longest together. So I think I could imagine that Bam's feelings were hurt. I mean, at the core, a lot of this violent, hyper masculine shit is our feelings be hurt. True. And so I get why he'd be mad at Tyler, and I get why he did what? He not condoning it. I'm just saying I understand how you get there. I just wish it. I just wish it didn't go there. Just cause, you know. And I think cooler heads should prevail in that you could communicate that to him. That ain't how he get down. I think if he were 35 years old or 45 years old, he might respond differently. As we get mature, we make better choices. So I'm not demonizing him for it. I just. I hate that it had to happen. But I totally get the hurt that he felt. He felt betrayed.

[B]

There's a video out of him punching him.

[C]

No, no, there's a video.

[D]

Tower Gym.

[A]

Not yet. Not yet.

[C]

That's true. If it was in fact at a hotel gym, there's probably footage somewhere.

[E]

No, but how was that?

[A]

Be it probably on the phone.

[E]

People pulled up the phone, trying to suppress it.

[C]

No, I'm talking.

[A]

No, ain't no phone. Ain't no phone. We passed phone. There was cameras recording. They got it. They in Vegas summer league. Just the. The. These cameras is going. The NBA cameras is going. Somebody got it. So we'll see what happens.

[B]

Consequences for him doing that.

[C]

I don't know if there would be any.

[A]

Why would it be consequences off the court?

[E]

It could be off season.

[D]

It's an interesting question. I don't know.

[E]

Summer league still NBA though.

[D]

No. I don't know if you can punch.

[A]

Is Tyler Hero pressing charges?

[D]

There's leagues. They're not on the same team, so the team can't do anything. He's not going to sue? No. He's not going to call the police. There might be some league conduct shit if it gets out. And they both acknowledge it.

[E]

Thousand percent.

[D]

It could be, but I doubt is anything. I think about when Shaq punched Greg Osterattack in the eye.

[E]

Smack.

[D]

We smacked him. I'm sorry. Or when Charles Oakley did that to Tyrone Hill. I mean, there were no consequences. You know what I mean? The league kind of be like, I'm talking about in terms of fines and stuff or suspensions. The league don't really care.

[A]

At what point do you think violence is the answer, Mark?

[B]

Oh, wow. When he has his cup in his hand.

[D]

Yeah. Or somebody just keep rapping. Going too far. I think the cause ain't.

[A]

We would play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[D]

Yes and no.

[A]

And you should get the shit smacked out of you when you say something stupid. It'll help you learn.

[D]

You just hit the nail on the head.

[E]

Right.

[D]

Should is the key word. In that sentence you just gave, like, when somebody talks stupid to somebody and then gets punched in the face, I have no sympathy for them. I'm like, that's how it should happen. But that's not my advice on how to handle it. You get what I'm saying? And that's the difference. You know what I mean? Cooler heads we all get in arguments. We all overreact. We all do things we wish we hadn't. But in the moment, I'd like to use my best judgment. My best judgment is, if you're not a physical threat to me, I shouldn't be responding with violence. But I understand. I get it 1,000%. And so when people play those stupid games and win those stupid prizes, I'm like, yeah, fuck you deserve. I just don't believe that it should be our jobs to impose that karma on people.

[A]

Oh, see, I do.

[E]

I agree with that.

[D]

Really? Because you're always the one telling me, like, you never let words. You.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I never what?

[E]

You never let.

[D]

You never let words affect you. Like, you're always saying to me, like, y' all niggas react too much to violence.

[A]

Cause I don't live like that. But I totally understand it. And.

[D]

Okay, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Totally.

[E]

That's what he said.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I get that he wished that Bam would have handled it different. I don't wish that.

[E]

Oh, see, but you wouldn't have handled it in the same way Bam did.

[A]

No.

[D]

Okay, so we're kind of saying the same thing.

[A]

I wouldn't do.

[D]

I'm saying.

[E]

But you.

[B]

But you.

[E]

You glad he did it that way.

[A]

I'm not angry at me either. I don't wish that he.

[E]

Okay, okay.

[A]

I don't wish, though.

[E]

I wish he handled it differently. You said, not me. That's why I'm thinking we were scared.

[A]

I thought, you wish he would have handled it that way. Differently. Would I have handled it differently?

[D]

Yes.

[E]

I got it.

[A]

Everybody ain't me.

[D]

Yeah. And I'm clear on that.

[A]

Tyler was going crazy on that Instagram dm.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then to come back with the graphic of a nigga that you was just on a team with, riding with. And from what I'm hearing, it ain't just Bam on the Heat that's pissed off with Tyler Herro.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's a few niggas that's. It's a few stories running around. One that says, is multiple Heat players angry at Tyler Herro Is One that says multiple Heat players are angry at Bam.

[D]

Well, they mad at Bam's contract.

[A]

Yeah, but that story leaking during summer league is even funny. Like, he's the face of the Heat.

[D]

Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, Greek freak is there now, but he is the Udonis. Has the Heat picked a guy and they love on him and treat him properly. I can see players having a feeling about that. But that story leaking to the public is funny. When funny leaks start happening, there's funny pipes. Tyler Herro showed himself to be a funny pipe.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Against a nigga who doesn't have his temper all the way.

[D]

Way. Right.

[A]

So I'm not surprised that he asked for it. It came your way. Yo, dog, there's people that have punched me in the face, so you have better understand that once I got home and thought about it, I perfectly understood why they did that.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

One time I thought I should have got.

[A]

And if you didn't do that, it might have took me a long time to learn whatever lesson I learned in that moment, I'm with people, learning a lesson from happening to them, especially when they do something stupid at times.

[E]

No, I. I agree with all of that.

[B]

I.

[E]

You know, to a fan, I say ain't get punched in the face enough growing up, so they didn't learn consequence.

[A]

Yeah, but you talking to a fan

[E]

about me like that, that is wild, yo. Yes, that is wild.

[A]

And now I happen to walk in a summer league gym because we all here. I don't think he was looking for him. I don't think he talked to him.

[E]

Look at God. I think he just.

[A]

Sometimes. God do what he's supposed to do.

[E]

Put it right there for you.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

That nigga is right there. And he went over there and hit him and boogied. Not boogied as in ran. Like, went on about his day.

[E]

Ain't changed nothing.

[A]

I think punching somebody in the face for Bam is like me making coffee.

[B]

He always does that.

[A]

I'mma go make seven cups of coffee. I do that with ease. Most I do with my eyes closed, hands tied behind my back. I think that's what like for him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What.

[E]

What y' all think about, cuz? You mentioned Udonis, Haslam, him and Draymond.

[D]

Yeah, it's another one.

[E]

Yeah. You got the clip?

[A]

I ain't playing no clips.

[E]

Okay. Talking. Well, could they ask? All right, so Draymond spoke out on the whole situation. He said he basically summarized it when Draymond punched Jordan Pool. Jordan pool in the face. Udonis had a lot to say about it. Like, I Would never hit a younger guy on my team. Team. It's not heat culture, et cetera, et cetera. So then Draymond came out and was like, I wonder how you feel, because these are two. Two dudes that came up basically under you doing the something that you said you wouldn't do, and you don't have a lot to say.

[D]

He had a lot to say.

[E]

He had a lot to say. I found it quite amusing.

[A]

They got into it. I kept hearing ice boys. Let me just find the clips. Started to wonder about was. I remember when I got into it

[E]

with Dre, I saw you d as

[A]

has him get into it with guys

[E]

on teams that was younger than him

[A]

before, a la Jimmy Butler. Then he came out and he like, that's ridiculous. You get into it with your young guy.

[E]

I can't.

[A]

But I would never. I can't believe you did that.

[E]

It really bothered me because I was like, damn, man.

[A]

Like, when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter. This is two young guys you done. This has them raised, and, yeah, they

[E]

not on the same team no more.

[A]

But if you raised issues, this young

[E]

guy, in the light of what you were saying about me, and now he punches this young. Other young guy that y' all kind of co raised.

[A]

Are you gonna have that same energy? And the reality is, I don't really want him to have the same energy because I love Bam. That's my brother Tyler. Hero, who's from Milwaukee. Like Jordan Poole, who has a lot of bravado as a young guy like Jordan Poole, who probably says some very disrespectful things like Jordan Poole. I just wonder, like, man, he gonna have that same minutes. I understand where Draymond is coming from. Shout out to Draymond. I just don't think it's the same at all.

[E]

I don't understand where he's coming from. Why are you even mentioning my name in this? Why? What's the point? I don't even see. There was no need. You immediately this happened. You ran right to yo. You don't has. I'm going to have this energy. He ain't even say nothing yet. Even if he did respond, let him address it or something. You ran and just threw his name in the mix for no reason. Udon is minding his business. This situation has nothing to do with him. N. I don't get that at all.

[D]

I saw a tweet had similar.

[E]

Oh, no. Yeah, he had. He had a lot to say. I'll let Joe read it.

[A]

No, I don't Nah, he put a lot of pressure on,

[D]

I've learned.

[A]

Wait, read what response? Oh, no, I was looking for the actual video of it. Not to read something. But they're not on the same. But he also has a video, but they're not on the same team.

[E]

Who not on the same team?

[A]

Tyler Hero and Bam out of bio.

[E]

But his point was. His point was, yo, these are people that came up under you, so you should have a more personal stance on it because they came up under you the same way you was vocal about when I did what I did with my team teammate. I want to see you be as vocal and have the same exact energy as you do with these guys.

[A]

But I don't care that they both came up under Bam. They're not on the same team. You shouldn't punch your teammate. You should find a way to work through your differences because you are teammates.

[D]

And there's also an age gap.

[A]

Tyler Heroes on the fucking bucks. Now, we traded you. That's why you popping fly shit. So, yes, now you can smack the shit out of the nigga that was on the team.

[D]

And you guys made another point, which is, you know, you smacked your rookie in the face or your young boy in the face, or you punched a young boy in the face with.

[E]

He was 32.

[D]

You a grown ass man. This is a young guy. And you punched him with full power. He said you punched him like it was a nigga in a club. Like, you punched him like that was your enemy. He said, tyler Herro. And Bam, he said, clearly, Bam didn't do that to Tyler. Cause you would know if he did. Number one and number two, they much closer in age. And he didn't condone what he did. But he said when he gets older, he'll make better choices.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[D]

He was saying, like, they both in their twenties. They both young. It's not apples to apples is what you don't say.

[E]

It makes sense.

[D]

And then he said a whole bunch of other shit.

[E]

Yeah, it was the nice version, right? I'm trying to. You gave the nice version?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Cause he also said he let him know, I don't fuck with you.

[D]

Oh, yeah. And he didn't say it was on site, but he said, you out of passes, and I'm not. Again, I don't condone that either.

[B]

I saw a tweet with somebody who's saying that talking about saint basketball, but it was like, yo, John Moran got traded and nobody talking about it. There's no problem. Press on it.

[E]

I think it Might be it's over.

[B]

I feel like, man, you know, I always think of second chances. You know me, Freeze.

[E]

Absolutely. I'm just saying he's had second and third and fourth chances to the point where the league. Not us, the league. It's not a talking point anymore for the league, so they're not gonna make a big deal out of it, which means the writers are not gonna make a big deal out of it, which means it's just news at this point. But that's him.

[B]

I got you.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What else we got? I think we did it.

[C]

I think we did.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think we got it.

[B]

You still got them friend of the show joints. You still got the front of the show joints?

[A]

Yeah. Why

[B]

aren't they friends of the shows?

[A]

What the are you talking about? Part of the show?

[B]

Same.

[A]

Yeah, what about it?

[B]

Pull it up. Damn, Flip. Are we on top of my phone,

[D]

Nigga, we get paid. We get paid by the pod, not by the topic.

[B]

They said there's some rumors about you falling back during contract time. You know, I saw something like that falling.

[D]

Who falls back during contract time? I turn up my contract. I only got eight weeks left. I'm trying to put my best foot forward.

[A]

Let's go to the audience members that care about what Dr. Mark Lamar Hill is saying. That is fabrication.

[D]

It's not fabrication.

[A]

Don't get scared. They'll start this shit. We need Mar. Joe, what's y' all gonna do if Mark walks out the door, please? Hey, Mark, we got Marco, 2029.

[B]

He gonna try to get Umar.

[A]

Yeah, Mark is, you know, all the way locked in. We couldn't see any more eye to eye, man. 20, 31.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Make sure you, like, get longer locked.

[A]

Hey, hey.

[B]

I need you eye. Need you to be here, cuz, you know when it's time for me to be, I'm going use you against him.

[E]

New York City, he didn't own his own company.

[A]

White man own it, so they own him. Nobody owns me, though.

[B]

What's it? The

[D]

gangster.

[A]

Gangster is not defined just the most. Is not defined by how low your jeans fall by your waist, but more how your jeans stand over its expectation, never forgetting where we came from.

[C]

Gangster.

[A]

Your gangster is not defined by how many rocks they ain your watch.

[E]

But more how many rocks you move

[A]

while on your watch. Gangsters, hustlers, Republicans, Democrats, pimps and hoes. You know what? Play lost ones.

[D]

What?

[E]

Yo, we'll jump you, you cut down.

[D]

Can't play the intro for the drug dealers.

[A]

Think of solitary labor. The seller the buyer, the product, the producer. So you are what you are. Gangster is absorbed and adored by those that don't understand. You just elbow your like that. What I miss Gangsterman allows you to

[E]

make up your own laws and.

[A]

All right, enough of him. I don't care if these cursing are y' all talking about like he about to do something. There we go, man. There we go. Yeah. Come on. There we go, man.

[B]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Really enjoyed Bleak going out there. Bleak is online now talking, sending shots and yayo Uncle Murder. We'll talk about it on Patreon. Yo. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you, man. Again, anybody that went to Yankee Stadium this past weekend, get a nap. A time was had, man. A time was had a lot of fun. Shout out to everybody that graced the stage. Everybody that made their way to New York City, all of the fans, all of the five boroughs, everybody with a Yankee hat. A lot of Knicks merchandise in the building. Building.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

All of the beautiful women that were there, all of the staff personnel, nypd, the fire department, everybody. All hands on deck to make sure we had a good time again. This is one of the most New York it ish summers that I've ever experienced. I'm having an absolute blast. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a due farewell. I adio cerebra diri. Hasta la vista. Au revoir. So long, goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last, but certainly not least. Hold up, man. Let me help. Oh, no. He killed this.

[D]

Hold up. Have to give her free time, even if it hurts. So free money is deserved. You've been put on this earth to be all you can be. Like the reserves of me. My timing is on me. So I have to allow she her time to serve. It's her. It's my turn. And maybe we can be we again. Like we were finally. My time's too short to share and the exit now. It ain't fair. So, yeah, she lost. Take the baseline.

[A]

There you go. Some of y' all was mad. Y' all in here. There we go. I'll turn it on for y', all, man.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Thank you.

[D]

Thank you

[A]

again. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last but Certainly not. Least the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things, grab you with Tylenol, you might need it. If you are 40 and up, 50 and up. 60 and up, 70 and up. And you was at that old show, man, go ahead, get your Neosporin. Lay down for a little bit, man.

[E]

Get that green out.

[A]

Ain't nobody going to judge you. Yeah, the green. The good one. The good one. Yeah, use some of that pto, man. Go ahead and rest. What y' all on this week? What y' all on this week? Anything.

[E]

No work and rest after that recovery.

[D]

My back

[C]

sleeping facts.

[A]

Well, there you have it.

[B]

You better chill out, man.

[D]

I'm tired as you better go home.

[B]

Put that work in, boy.

[A]

Chill out.

[D]

My wife is trying to get me. Put that work in after the concert.

[A]

You can't run after the show.

[E]

Wait, after the show.

[D]

I see you Tuesday, Wednesday.

[A]

Get your ass.

[D]

You think I'm joking?

[B]

I believe you. I. No disrespect. I'm just saying. Yeah, I think you lying.

[A]

That's the thing about bringing your joint to the show, your wife to the show.

[B]

They get the licking.

[A]

They start feeling good, like thinking when it's time to get home, it's time

[E]

to go to B.

[A]

No, it ain't.

[E]

It's not time to go to bed and don't with me tomorrow.

[B]

You.

[D]

You shot.

[B]

You and shot. They would sleep together. I watched y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

I'm like, they so in tune. Look at them.

[A]

Yeah. No. Me and my baby in our bed. We going to bed.

[B]

Shout out to my man. That's my man. Yo, he just got.

[A]

He cool as.

[B]

Got to protect the investment.

[A]

Jo, I ain't got nothing going on this week, man.

[B]

I'm down with that for you.

[A]

I'm chilling. Just work vibes, keeping it light and keeping it low. I don't want no trouble, man. I'm tight, ill. But rappers, you might feel me. Homies, y' all are down out there.

[D]

I'm tight.

[A]

I would have gave him a little bit of this. That's all he could have gave four to six, eight bars.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

Everybody would have been happy.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no, No.

[B]

Joe Bun?

[A]

You've never heard of Joe Bun? Jbp. Jbp. Why don't you be without the jbp?

[B]

I'm from the Web and Nitty era.

[D]

It's the network.