Episode 948 | "Somebody Call Freeze"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast — Episode 948 | "Somebody Call Freeze"

Release Date: July 22, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Guests/Co-Hosts: Ish, Parks, Flip, Ice, Big Freeze, Mark Lamont Hill

---

Overview

Episode 948 delivers a classic, free-wheeling Joe Budden Podcast, with the crew diving into topics ranging from car cleanliness and family movie nights to the upcoming Game vs. YG Verzuz, DJ Khaled’s album delay, the economics and emotional politics of marriage, ESPN layoffs, and cultural icons they’d love to meet. The episode is marked by the hosts’ signature banter, sharp observations, and moments of heartfelt honesty.

---

Key Segments and Discussions

Car Cleanliness & What It Reveals

[00:28–08:18]

• Flip kicks off jesting about finding a karate gi in Mark Lamont Hill’s car, roasting him for living messy but being outwardly put together.
• Flip: "How can you come in here clean... but your car is two different niggas? Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde type shit." ([03:01])
• Mark Lamont Hill admits, "My car used to be super clean, though. But now, once I had a kid, I just said it…" ([04:43])
• The crew discusses the psychology behind car and home cleanliness, recycling (joking about collecting bottles for change), and the impacts of busy lives and parenthood.
• Joe Budden: "You shouldn’t even be able to get out your car wearing pink if it’s junky. Seriously." ([04:49])
• Discussion turns meta—how external image can differ from private chaos, and family/kid impact on order.

---

Family Dynamics & Movie Night

[10:33–14:39]

• Joe recounts a recent "forced" family movie night, poking fun at the trial of watching a bad horror film as family bonding.
• Joe Budden: "My stupid ass...I paused it, thinking we done got through most of this. We was 39 minutes in." ([13:11])
• Flip, Mark, and Ish joke about strategies men use to get out of family obligations and the generational differences in family customs.
• Mark Lamont Hill: "I enjoy the family time, but we don't do it a lot... If I had to do it every week, it would drive me fucking crazy. But once a month, I’m easy." ([14:00])

---

LeBron James Philly Hype & Group Chat

[23:13–27:58]

• Mark Lamont Hill details his hopeful speculation—fed by group chat rumors—of LeBron possibly joining the Sixers after "sources" say Bron’s daughter is enrolled at a local school.
• Joe Budden: "Y'all are gonna absolutely hate me if LeBron goes to the Sixers." ([25:42])
• The conversation expands to the absurd lengths fans (and the pod) go to verify NBA rumors, including Mark calling people at the potential school.
• The segment is full of inside jokes about group chat etiquette, sources, and Sixers fans’ hopes and delusions.

---

Losing Family Members with Dementia

[28:09–33:37]

• Mark shares a real-life, darkly humorous story about temporarily losing his mother-in-law with dementia after church. The crew cracks up but also reflect on the agonizing reality of caregiving.
• Mark Lamont Hill: "She’s got dementia...next time I’ll put an AirTag on her." ([29:27])
• Ice helps Mark via phone “tracking the bus route,” and the team jokes about black vs. white family crisis responses—delivered with irreverent empathy.

---

Music: Old Head Flex & YG vs. Game Verzuz

[41:09–47:53]

• The crew debates the upcoming Verzuz between Game and YG, especially as it’s in California.
• Ice and Mark both pick YG to win in the LA setting, despite Game having stronger albums overall.
• Ice: “YG’s going to surprise. And it’s in Cali. I got YG.” ([41:49])
• The hosts compare which artist's songs slap harder live, acknowledge the regional bias, and do playful back-and-forth DJing of their biggest hits.

---

DJ Khaled’s Album Delay & Modern Rollouts

[56:01–62:24]

• The show analyzes why DJ Khaled hasn’t dropped—speculating that without a big “event” single or a Drake feature, he’s holding back.
• Parks: “Khaled built his brand on singles. He can’t drop an album right now.” ([57:25])
• Ice and Parks debate if only “the big four or five” artists can set up the blockbusters Khaled demands.
• They play and react to Khaled’s own interview explaining the pushback and assess the trajectory of his current rollout.

---

Stadium Tours: Can 50 Cent Do a “Jay Z at Yankee Stadium”?

[67:53–74:23]

• Inspired by Jay-Z’s three-night run, they discuss if 50 Cent (or anyone else) could sell out stadiums several consecutive nights.
• Ice imagines a 50 Cent “Get Rich or Die Tryin’,” G-Unit, and “friends” nights scenario, but the crew doubts the same cultural impact.
• Mark Lamont Hill: “When you start getting to night two and night three, that’s when you separate the night.” ([70:09])
• They name the handful of acts—Kanye, Outkast, Eminem in Detroit, Drake in Toronto—who could possibly replicate Jay’s feat.

---

New Music (Baby Rose, Tory Lanez, Chris Brown, etc.)

[77:13–88:47]

• Excitement over new Baby Rose and Leon Thomas releases; Parks claims Baby Rose’s project is his "favorite album of the year."
• Parks: “Baby Rose—this album is absolutely incredible. My favorite album of the year by far.” ([84:50])
• Joe praises Tory Lanez’s new jailhouse R&B effort and marvels over the technical logistics of recording from prison.
• The fellas reflect humorously (and cynically!) on the realities of love, heartbreak, and being held down during a bid.

---

Marriage: “For Broke People”?

[123:14–140:48]

• The pod reacts to Mandy’s viral take: “Marriage is for broke women. Once you’re up, there’s no incentive.”
• Mandy: "I think marriage is for broke… I think a woman who wants to be married is leaning more into the patriarchy and wants to be… taken care of…" ([123:33])
• The wider crew debates her thesis, covering:
  • Emotional security vs. practical/legal benefits of marriage
  • The role of children in defining family
  • Divorce, prenups, and risk assessment in modern relationships
  • The idea that high-earning women increasingly see less value in the institution—while some successful women still crave marriage.
• Flip: “There’s some CEO women… that wish they were married… It’s not just for broke women.” ([128:05])
• A nuanced, sometimes heated, mostly respectful debate about what marriage means in a new era.

---

Prenups, Estates & The Malcolm-Jamal Warner Estate Lawsuit

[143:44–151:22]

• Mark describes the ongoing, public lawsuit involving Malcolm-Jamal Warner’s widow and his estate, centering on unfulfilled prenup terms (including missed life insurance).
• Discussion points:
  • The necessity and enforceability of prenups, especially regarding estate planning.
  • The complexity and emotional toll of estate disputes, especially when children are involved.

---

Streamers University & Content Collaboration

[151:26–154:26]

• Flip praises Kai Cenat for a recent creators’ summit, highlighting its impact in mentoring young streamers and promoting cross-pollination of digital talent regardless of age or background.

---

On Meeting Heroes & Cultural Icons

[157:02–159:22]

• The hosts share which public figures, living or deceased, they’d most love to meet, naming Minister Louis Farrakhan, Barack Obama, Denzel Washington, Larry David, and more.
• Ice: “If I had the chance, I’d want to shake [Obama’s] hand.” ([158:10])

---

Fun & Flagrant: Disco, Fashion & Marvel

[159:35–167:39]

• Flip discovers new music from The Village People, debates disco’s coded meanings, and the guys riff on fashion “crimes” like bedazzled clothes.
• Marvel talk: Excitement for the new Avengers trailer, the stakes for the MCU, and the “IMAX battle” with Dune 3.
• Ice: “They’ve been needing a home run. The MCU in general… there’s been nothing to really be hyped about until now.” ([165:53])

---

Tribute and Farewells

[171:08–end]

• Ice closes with respectful tributes to southern mixtape legend Ali Boy and DJ Bigga Rankin, who passed recently.
• The episode wraps with the usual sign-off and a musical outro.

---

Memorable Quotes

• Flip: "How can you come in here clean...but your car is...Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde type shit.” ([03:01])
• Joe Budden: "You shouldn’t even be able to get out your car wearing pink if it’s junky." ([04:49])
• Mark Lamont Hill: "If I had to do [family night] every week, it would drive me fucking crazy. Once a month, I’m easy." ([14:00])
• Ice: “YG’s going to surprise. And it’s in Cali. I got YG.” ([41:49])
• Parks: “Khaled built his brand on singles. He can’t drop an album right now.” ([57:25])
• Mark Lamont Hill: “When you start getting to night two and night three, that’s when you separate the night.” ([70:09])
• Mandy: "I think marriage is for broke...who want to be essentially taken care of." ([123:33])
• Flip: “There’s some CEO women…that wish they were married…It’s not just for broke women.” ([128:05])
• Ice: “If I had the chance, I’d want to shake [Obama’s] hand.” ([158:10])

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------|------------| | Car Cleanliness | 00:28–08:18| | Family Movie Night | 10:33–14:39| | Sixers/LeBron Rumor Chat | 23:13–27:58| | Dementia Care Story | 28:09–33:37| | Verzuz (Game vs. YG) Debate | 41:09–47:53| | DJ Khaled Album Rollout | 56:01–62:24| | Stadium Tours (50 Cent vs. Jay-Z) | 67:53–74:23| | New Music Reviews | 77:13–88:47| | Mandy’s “Marriage is for Broke People” | 123:14–140:48| | Malcolm-Jamal Warner Estate Lawsuit |143:44–151:22| | Streamers University | 151:26–154:26| | Meeting Cultural Icons | 157:02–159:22| | Marvel & Avengers Hype | 165:08–167:39| | Tributes to Ali Boy & Bigga Rankin | 171:08–171:51|

---

Tone & Style

• Conversational, funny, irreverent, sometimes wildly off-topic but always self-aware.
• Cultural commentary loaded with Black barbershop energy.
• Moments of poignancy and vulnerability (family, dementia, loss) balanced by playful roasting and insider jokes.

---

For First-Time Listeners

This episode is a microcosm of what The Joe Budden Podcast does best: blending jokes, music nerd-outs, everyday life, heated debate, and cultural insight. The conversation meanders organically but returns to core themes—how people relate, how hip hop culture evolves, and how personal choices reflect broader social change.

If you haven’t listened, this summary gives you a roadmap to the best moments, jokes, and debates of the episode.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

[Big Freeze]

It's hard Ain't really no start.

[Ish]

Welcome to the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, listen, I just want to say something before I came upstairs, you know, I like to scope the scene, just make sure there's not attacking me. Looking for me in anything in the environment. I look to my left, I decided to look at my brother's Mark's car, and he has his.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In my car?

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you thought somebody might be attacking you from inside my car?

[Flip]

Of course. He. He had this karate outfit on the front seat. This nigga coming straight from karate to work, nigga. Hey, relax. You got kicked out the apartment as you sleeping at the dojo, nigga, go home, nigga. That did all that home shit with Flip Mark. I saw it right there. Nigga, it was this big.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my son's.

[Flip]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was white, right?

[Flip]

Yeah, it was white. Nigga, that's my son.

[Parks]

That could be yours.

[Flip]

You just dried it. I said, oh, shit. He just came from karate. Took a picture, too. I'm not playing with Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my son's dog. I probably should watch that.

[Ice]

That's hilarious.

[Flip]

He liking it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He loves it. Yo, I came over here and said that he failed his white belt test a while back. I should have probably told y' all he passed it next time. Oh, yeah, he passed next time.

[Big Freeze]

That's fire.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And now he's all. He be trashing. Them kids in there, they about to give him a stripe on his belt. He's getting a little carried away with it.

[Joe Button]

All he needs to do is fight.

[Ice]

Stop, stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, at home, he just be wanting all he want.

[Joe Button]

That's just the child we need to know karate.

[Ice]

And he's stocky.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

He going, yeah, you can see it. That's crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip, do you always go through your friend's cars?

[Flip]

I do, I do, I do, I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think that's normal?

[Flip]

No, it's not. But I have to. Looking in your car, seeing the condition of it, allows me to know where your mind is at in the current

[Joe Button]

state and where your life is at.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's not.

[Flip]

Why I don't want to talk about niggas lives. Cause they gonna start getting on me so I know what water to go in. Cause I'm about to shoot sh at ish and I want to play with him today. Okay?

[Big Freeze]

He came in and told I had pee and cups.

[Flip]

Yeah, you did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Gatorade bottom.

[Flip]

Your car is dirty.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I going to say it's dirty, but it's just junk.

[Flip]

He give me a rock. That junkie dirty.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Same to me.

[Flip]

Y flip, get in. Just move this over. Spill coffee on me. He said he gonna take my to the cleaners. Never did. That's what I'm saying. This is dirty. I think he that was pissed. He's peeing.

[Ice]

He was pissing a wawa cup.

[Flip]

Why you call like that though?

[Big Freeze]

Got it.

[Flip]

Do you? Why is it like that?

[Big Freeze]

What?

[Flip]

How can as a nigga, you come in here clean. You always fly, bro.

[Ish]

Clean.

[Flip]

I haven't seen a speck of dirt. Not even on the bottom of your sneakers. But your car is two different niggas. Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde type shit. That's your nasty in there, boy. Why is it like that? Boy, you be stressed.

[Joe Button]

I'm not in there.

[Ice]

I'm either.

[Big Freeze]

No, but you have an assessment on that.

[Joe Button]

I have absolutely nothing to say. I've never seen your car or the

[Big Freeze]

mess, but you know the assessment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, his car wasn't like that back in the day.

[Joe Button]

Yo, you see me trying to be cool.

[Ice]

He trying to be like,

[Big Freeze]

I don't really litter, so whatever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you do in the back seat also.

[Ice]

You keep it all. Keep it all in the car.

[Ish]

I don't litter.

[Big Freeze]

I drink. Like, I drink water all day, as y' all know. So if I finish the water, I put the water, like care about the

[Flip]

environment more than itself, you know?

[Big Freeze]

So then when I get out the car, at a certain point, I'll just.

[Parks]

There is an in between.

[Ish]

It's 40 water bottles.

[Ice]

I just throw my own treasure.

[Flip]

Oh, you recycle. Oh, you the 40 cent shit. Okay, I see.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Flip]

I should have known that. No wonder you be trying to ask JR to go down the block. You be doing that shit with the cans, bottles.

[Joe Button]

Oh, this nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You go to the can bank.

[Flip]

Yo, it's that bad for you, boy. Oh, yeah, that's where you decide your shit. See, see, nigga, watch your mouth, son. Have my man saving bottles. Nigga, stop playing with my son, nigga to slap you in, yo. There's a lot of shit. Go to the car parks one day and see.

[Parks]

No thanks.

[Flip]

Oh, this clean though, white man. I watch this too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Kids will make your Disgusting too, though.

[Parks]

I'm sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's 90.

[Joe Button]

I mean, it's. Or y' all are just disgusting.

[Flip]

That's not true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I'm disgusting.

[Joe Button]

Y' all are disgusting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I own that. Yeah, I'm disgusting. My car used to be super clean, though. But now, once I had a kid, I just said it.

[Joe Button]

You shouldn't even be able to get out your car wearing pink if it's junkie. Seriously.

[Ish]

Because how you get out the car,

[Joe Button]

like when you fresh, like when you feeling confident and your Is just the

[Ice]

outside be clean and hit the car

[Joe Button]

wash. No, it don't get car washes.

[Ish]

Wait, you go to a car wash and get exterior. Not you tell me that y' all go to the car wash and just get the exterior done and then pull off.

[Ice]

I used to.

[Flip]

It's a conspiracy with Ish. He think the niggas gonna steal from him.

[Ice]

So when I had the daily shit, I was going every day to get the exterior.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, you don't got.

[Ice]

And I would keep it inside. I don't live over that way no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I gotta. I gotta tell you, guy, I got the same guy, he comes in the house, he cleans the whole car. That's the only way my car don't be discussing all the time, is I have to have somebody come to the house to actually clean it.

[Flip]

Wait.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah. See, it's a level I gotta get.

[Flip]

These niggas gave me.

[Ice]

These niggas don't even go to the car wash.

[Big Freeze]

I'm not going. Niggas to come here and clean your car.

[Ice]

No, I don't want niggas to come here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's dope. He does Joe's car, and he'll come to your crib, he'll clean your car inside, outside, all that.

[Flip]

Got it?

[Joe Button]

I see Flip on the road looking bad. Y' all just. You still take pride. And

[Flip]

because you got. I gotta be incognito.

[Ish]

You had the nerve to have the window down rolling in that Dustbuster.

[Flip]

I was talking to you. First of all, my. My is not a Dustbuster.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It should be up. Wait, you talked all that?

[Big Freeze]

I was about to say yes. Better not be up.

[Ice]

You better have a crispy clean.

[Flip]

Let me just tell you to eat off your. Let me tell you.

[Joe Button]

And it's the summertime, and you is dirty like this.

[Big Freeze]

And you live minutes from a car, from seven car washes.

[Flip]

You know, when the weather change, that whole green get on your car.

[Ice]

Your car black is going to show.

[Flip]

Yeah, I just didn't clean It. And then this said to me, yo, you looking bad out here. Resign.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what he did.

[Flip]

That's what he did. You looking. He said, you got to resign. Boy, this looks nasty. Look very f. Oh, inside my clean.

[Big Freeze]

I'mma check.

[Flip]

I'm a check.

[Joe Button]

Whatever.

[Flip]

Freezer shit clean, free. Yeah, freeze.

[Ice]

And I keep the inside.

[Flip]

I check park shit.

[Parks]

I keep my shit clean.

[Ice]

Yeah, I keep even with the kids. I got kids all the time, so I gotta keep this car clean. Cause they don't have your shit up.

[Joe Button]

They would.

[Ice]

I had to go get them thick rubber mats. I can't use the regular floor mats

[Flip]

like a rubber mat. Put the rubber mat on top of the other mat.

[Ice]

That's a freaky molded shit.

[Joe Button]

He been that way in 2007 when he had his little blue Escalade. He thought that was a Phantom. That nigga was like, yo, was 2007.

[Ice]

That's what I said. That's the one. I had to give you a ride.

[Ish]

It was a nice car.

[Flip]

It was. Yeah.

[Ish]

Spinoza.

[Joe Button]

Man, who ran that shit? Fucking yeah. He was getting the special floor mats to his shit. Freeze didn't play. He didn't play.

[Ice]

I could tell you.

[Joe Button]

I was there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Was your car like that back then

[Joe Button]

for special floor mats? No, no, no.

[Flip]

But you hardly drive your shit, though. If you drove your shit every day, it would still be clean.

[Joe Button]

What are you talking about? Today? Now?

[Flip]

Yeah, now. If you drove your shit, would it be clean? I do see you going around picking shit up, so.

[Big Freeze]

Nah, nigga clean.

[Flip]

He cleans all the time. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Spotless. Spotless.

[Big Freeze]

He clean.

[Joe Button]

I couldn't walk by a dusty car five times in a row ever.

[Ice]

Really?

[Ish]

No.

[Flip]

Why not?

[Joe Button]

Chelsea Deton.

[Ice]

Once I see it now, you can't unsee the shit.

[Joe Button]

You gotta. Gotta do something.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I can unsee. I got a pizza box on my floor that's been there for. At least.

[Flip]

That's pizza.

[Ice]

Is it crusting the mark? I can see that shit with 2020 vision.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's crusting it too.

[Flip]

Yo, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, Marvin.

[Joe Button]

But that don't sh me about Mark because Colt is in the marked profile and a few things come with that.

[Parks]

I thought the cult was my profile.

[Ice]

How you connect the pizza box cult

[Joe Button]

is not in your. Your profile says something different.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah, I was.

[Joe Button]

Colt is in his. So it's pizza crust.

[Flip]

The cult has order.

[Parks]

Yeah, I thought the cult would be

[Mark Lamont Hill]

like the military order and clean a pizza.

[Joe Button]

No, the military means. The military means order. Not what he did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We had some order, but we Also wouldn't let a pizza crust go. You know what I mean? We had a much.

[Ice]

Y' all was starving.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we were starving as you rest of the route.

[Flip]

You ain't gonna eat that crust.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I wouldn't leave. You know what it is? My son fucks up the car so much in the back that I've just given up like Poe. You've been there before. Remember when he took the stencils and drew all over with chalk on the back of my seat?

[Parks]

Excuse me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I was like, I lost.

[Big Freeze]

I got.

[Flip]

What's that car seat.

[Ish]

You got.

[Joe Button]

Get a pair of car seats. Your car is like that. Because your profile says that you're all about exterior.

[Big Freeze]

My exterior be dirty now.

[Joe Button]

What? You're what?

[Big Freeze]

My exterior is dirty now. What

[Flip]

I gotta see, I got. I gotta.

[Ice]

Deep down, my car says that.

[Big Freeze]

Because I don't really value.

[Joe Button]

Like that.

[Big Freeze]

It's not a big deal to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not about the money, family.

[Big Freeze]

A car is a car. I don't look at it like that.

[Joe Button]

You don't value cleanliness?

[Big Freeze]

I don't value my car like that. Like some treat their car like it's a trophy. I don't do that.

[Parks]

Oh, it's not about a trophy.

[Big Freeze]

I got the instruction in my car. I don't give a.

[Ice]

This is hard to focus with mess. Same like my car messy. I'll be like, all right, I gotta pull over. And as soon as they get out the car, I gotta clean the car out. I can't have that. Yeah, see?

[Joe Button]

Is that the police?

[Parks]

No.

[Joe Button]

Like, what am I hearing?

[Flip]

What was that?

[Parks]

So. Yes.

[Joe Button]

Oh, so, yeah, the police. And I'm joking. Y' all be getting me in trouble with them jokes.

[Flip]

I could tell.

[Joe Button]

I'm chilling.

[Ice]

I'm.

[Flip]

I'm just talking about. Now, listen. We get you in trouble. That's all I'm saying. Because the person that makes the jokes get the look as well. She got no pics. I heard that you said, like, girl, you that man's girl. Don't press me. I heard what you said. Watch your mouth. She don't play.

[Joe Button]

I guess yesterday, I'm chilling in the bed, minding my own business. Long story now. Long at all. She said, I gotta buy some popcorn and some slushies. And we got movie night with the kids. And we go find a horror movie. Cause they wanna see horror. Go sit on the couch like a family and watch a movie. I'm like, all right.

[Flip]

Shit.

[Joe Button]

That's dope. You gonna kill that shit. I go laying down, laying down laying down to get close to the movie time. She look all right, babe, when are you all. Come on, it's almost time,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sam.

[Flip]

Oh,

[Joe Button]

I used to. I ain't grow up with a family.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And I like it like that. Yo, you had to get your plaid pajamas. This is some toxic shit. But.

[Joe Button]

Some toxic shit. I'm okay.

[Ice]

But I can't say that to her.

[Joe Button]

You can't say, yo, yes, sir, I grew up without a fan and I had a family.

[Ish]

But we ain't doing.

[Flip]

We ain't do none of this shit together.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yeah. But I didn't say that.

[Ice]

I said, all right, babe.

[Joe Button]

Took my doofy ass out there. He puts a pajama pants on, go out there mad kid. The dog bed is out there. And they pull up some called passenger.

[Parks]

I don't think I saw that one.

[Joe Button]

No, you didn't.

[Ice]

I mean, I did see that.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God, no.

[Ish]

If you didn't see it, I guess was trash.

[Joe Button]

N. Yes. This is the worst movie in the fucking universe.

[Ish]

They don't make horror like they used to make horror. This shit is a fucking comedy.

[Big Freeze]

Ride down the street and the people be standing on it.

[Joe Button]

Then master jumping up.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

There's one dude. Yeah. On the side of the road.

[Ish]

The guy's driving around.

[Ice]

He hops in.

[Ish]

He kills some nigga in the first

[Joe Button]

five seconds of the movie.

[Ish]

Then they show you a couple. The couple is all in love.

[Joe Button]

They kiss. The couple decides to go live. And what's the. The vans that go on on the road now you live in the cross country RVs.

[Ish]

And yeah, they done hooked it up

[Joe Button]

some little tiny ass winter bagels. So now they gonna take a drive. So you know where this movie is going?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I walked out. I was in my living room when I walked out.

[Ish]

You walked out?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I walked out. Lord. Yeah.

[Ice]

I train with you because I have to do that and watch like Toy

[Joe Button]

Story where you do the movie night.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Like with your family.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Parks]

You thought Freeze was doing movie night,

[Ice]

but Toy Story dope. Not when you don't want to watch this shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everything about him says movie night.

[Parks]

Yeah. Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You like a family dude.

[Flip]

You let me get out of it.

[Ice]

I don't get out of that.

[Joe Button]

How do I get out of that?

[Flip]

Cause an argument the night before.

[Ice]

You don't fall. Stop.

[Joe Button]

For real. Seriously.

[Ice]

No, you don't.

[Ish]

No, you don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just sacrificed two hours.

[Ice]

Sacrifice my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You want the short.

[Joe Button]

The passenger movie wasn't but 90 minutes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, there you go.

[Joe Button]

My stupid ass. During family night. I paused it, thinking, we done got through most of this. We was 39 minutes in.

[Ish]

I said, I'm walking the out of here. Sorry. Hey, judge me. Hey, break up.

[Ice]

I'm out.

[Ish]

She understood it that way.

[Joe Button]

I'll meet you in the bed, baby.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

I'm out of here.

[Ice]

You gotta sit there.

[Flip]

I gotta watch this division.

[Joe Button]

There gotta be a piece for you to do it. I'll figure it out.

[Big Freeze]

There's two. Go to the bathroom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. You can just. Twice a year, you get an emergency. Yo, my son, he's just. He dealing with some. I need to help him with it. You know what I mean? That'll get you out of it. Long term, you gotta actually have a conversation and say, I'm not doing this shit. Yeah. I'm not. So the short term, Mark ratting on himself.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ice]

When he jump up here, he be

[Ish]

like, yo, you know, Mark, you do this shit too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think?

[Flip]

I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I enjoy the family time, but we don't do it a lot, so it's not. I've had to do it every week. I would drive me fucking crazy. I would shoot myself. But once a month, I'm easy.

[Flip]

Goddamn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. I'm sorry. Sorry, Flip. Thank you, Flip. You're right. I would be unhappy. I like time to myself. I don't like a lot of people all the time, so.

[Flip]

Yeah, true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I need time to myself once a month.

[Flip]

I love family time again, once a month. Look at that ass.

[Ish]

Look.

[Flip]

I love sitting with all my children and my wife and watching the movie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love just me and Me and my lady's different.

[Flip]

You and your what?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me and my lady is different. When you catch me too many, you start adding other people shit. Become a bird.

[Ice]

I go to sleep.

[Parks]

I do that, too.

[Ice]

That's the out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what?

[Ice]

Sit there and go to fuck to sleep. They gonna watch the shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm out. See you.

[Ish]

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1st, 2. Yeah. I mean, that's just my vibe on a rainy day. Fuck with me. Hey, big Jersey. Big Jersey. Whole New York City. What's going on out there?

[Flip]

Her.

[Ish]

She touching me with her warmness as

[Joe Button]

the light shines my smile.

[Ish]

She makes me happy. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Eo. Shout out to all the side chicks out there. We not forgetting about y', all, too. Y' all like slow jams, too. And side chicks is misleading. Some of y' all out there is like this whole side family. Shout out to y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Ish]

Y' all holding down.

[Joe Button]

They stupid, dog. They said Stephen A. Was in an interview talking about how his dad wasn't really taking care of the household. He said their family wasn't poor because they was broke. They was poor because dad was taking the money and doing it somewhere else. And he watched his mom work 16 hour days, 7 days a week to provide and take care. And dad was on the other side of town in a whole nother house like taking care of another.

[Ish]

Yo, listen, I ain't saying it, but there will be signs. Shout out to Ms. Chalet. I seen you in that Cadillac doing your thing. You absolutely killed that. I'm so shocked at your voice.

[Joe Button]

Still sounds like that too, by the way.

[Ish]

Hey, shout out to all the parents out there, all the kids out there, all the kids getting ready for college and all that. Come on man, let's start this thing the right way, man. Wherever you at, if you in your car, if you in the crib, just simply can't doom scrolling you on YouTube. That means you out in the park somewhere, wherever you could possibly be. You at topgolf, nigga, you at your bowling alley, the skating ring. That's what I behold all my life. 40 and up. 40 and up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's self doubt,

[Big Freeze]

let's chill.

[Ish]

Actually. Holy shit. 45 and up. God damn it. Now think about it. Love is in the air. Yes, sir. Take it back to when you used to leave a voicemail. Nigga with your sexy voice on.

[Flip]

Hey, what's up girl? You know I miss you.

[Ish]

Slow jazz playing in the back.

[Flip]

I love you baby. I just called you. I know. I miss you just now.

[Joe Button]

Don't call me back when you get a second. At your earliest convenience, that's what.

[Flip]

At your earliest.

[Joe Button]

At your earliest convenience. Give me your.

[Ish]

What else? What else? Visions of your love. You're 40 enough. Give it a car. Let me hear you out there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My love is for you.

[Ish]

Whatever you want, I will do

[Parks]

one

[Ish]

I want in my life

[Flip]

for you. I make that sacrifice.

[Ish]

Yeah. I mean taking it back to when used to hold hands. Facts still hold hands but they be initiating it. Shout out to the. Leave a hand there dangling for a second too like oh, oh, you wanted my hand. Yeah. Shout out to that hold hands but interlock the fingers. Weird. You too awkward to say something so now you just stuck like that. Shout out to the that y mean

[Joe Button]

hold on, let me get these drops out the way.

[Ish]

Shout out to you that still going to bed in whatever cuddle position y' all fell asleep in. Y' all too to move now your leg sleep, arms sleep.

[Joe Button]

My leg Be sleep now. My is a un should be up. I move, I get out of the way.

[Ish]

Neil Ice.

[Ice]

Who is that?

[Ish]

It's Mark Lamahill.

[Flip]

Pussy Pussy from the Weber Nitty era.

[Ish]

It's the network. All right, what episode is this?

[Parks]

948.

[Ish]

Welcome to episode 948 of the JOE Button podcast. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. This episode is brought to you by Fueled By Power by prize picks. Prize picks. Gang to my right. Queens get the money. Come on, man.

[Joe Button]

You've seen them out there, big queens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip.

[Ish]

How you doing, man?

[Flip]

I feel good. Feel good to be here. I'm doing great.

[Ish]

Good. Absolutely love that. Next to him, Philadelphia's finest. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, what's good with you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm great, man.

[Ish]

Good. Absolutely love that. Next to him, our good brother, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. Ish is in the building. Ish was good, man.

[Ice]

I'm great, sir.

[Joe Button]

You good? Couldn't be better.

[Ish]

Next to him. Come on. The freeziest of them all, Mr. Take it further. Big freeze in the building. Freeze was good.

[Ice]

What's going on, man? Great.

[Joe Button]

Nothing much.

[Ish]

Came on it.

[Ice]

Waiting for Braun, man.

[Joe Button]

That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

About another hour.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

I got the notifications on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We set.

[Flip]

He announced today. He announces today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He gonna announce when he announced. We ready. Take your time, big dog.

[Ice]

We cool.

[Flip]

We waiting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever you need.

[Joe Button]

Said I'm waiting for Braun and didn't pause it. They dead ass.

[Ice]

Oh, y thought we was joking. Why they think we joking?

[Joe Button]

They waiting for Braun. And is you not in the group chat? So let me tell you what they was doing.

[Parks]

Please tell them.

[Joe Button]

Let me tell you what they was doing.

[Ish]

I got.

[Joe Button]

Cause y' all was looking nuts in there. Mark is in there saying, hey, you

[Ish]

know Mark always got a source.

[Joe Button]

I'm getting sick of it. Mark said, I got sources telling me this thing is official. It's already done. Just waiting on the announcement. We like.

[Ish]

All right, we let that cook.

[Joe Button]

Mark is a Stickster fan. He's excited.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm excited.

[Ish]

We let him go.

[Joe Button]

They took it further.

[Parks]

It's about the manifesto.

[Ish]

They took it further.

[Joe Button]

Then Mark said, listen, I'm hearing that he's even enrolled his kids in the Philadelphia school.

[Ice]

That's what my source told.

[Ish]

And I left it alone, cuz.

[Joe Button]

Mark is hype and he's excited.

[Big Freeze]

It's July.

[Joe Button]

And then Freeze comes in with some AI solo evidence.

[Ish]

Yes, with some AI Philadelphia school report. That says a LeBron kid is in there.

[Joe Button]

I don't even know this kid. What kid was this youngest?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The one that's in school.

[Ice]

The only one that's in school, bro.

[Joe Button]

Got it, got it.

[Ish]

It's hate. And the whole group said just kind

[Joe Button]

of of left that be because they excited in there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because they're haters. Look, that's all.

[Parks]

I thought you said you were gonna ask around.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I asked that. So I got a text saying, hey, LeBron's daughter was just enrolled in my friend's daughter's private school down here. So that was, you know. So I immediately.

[Joe Button]

Who text you that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't say.

[Parks]

Yeah, I bet it sounds like, hey, Chris Broussard, man.

[Ish]

Knock it off. Ain't nobody texting Mark but Chris Broussard, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I said, let me go find out.

[Parks]

When everyone's cousins. Cousins was working for the government, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think it was one of reverse joints. Cause when I saw the AI thing, I said, I know what happened. Somebody saw that. And then the rumors started back. So by the time it got to me, you know what I mean? The person probably was being honest, but was getting bad info. So I called the school.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I called some people who work at the school.

[Parks]

How'd that go?

[Ish]

Why?

[Joe Button]

You didn't feel like a loser when you did that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think I called as me?

[Parks]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ish]

You didn't feel like a loser when you did that?

[Flip]

Look at that.

[Ish]

That's double.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's a double whammy.

[Parks]

Hi, this is LeBron.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, does my daughter go here? No, no, no. I called. I called my peoples and asked them if they knew anything. You know what I mean? As a school. I just asked if there was any announcements. I didn't ask. You know what I mean?

[Flip]

They said no, right? They said no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's more how they carry it.

[Joe Button]

Yo, Mark and Ice, yo, I ain't even putting this on ice. Really. Cause he just trying to support his man. Y' all gonna absolutely hate me if LeBron go to the Sixers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We hate you already.

[Joe Button]

Well, y' all gonna hate me more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think it's possible to hate a Knicks fan more after y' all this year. Y' all hate me.

[Joe Button]

I'm calling Pablo Torre immediately. That's my very first phone call.

[Ice]

Well, we still don't worry. Pablo got a backlog of work to do right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He got work to do.

[Ice]

If that's the case, he'll get to it.

[Joe Button]

If LeBron go to the Sixers, that mean that Michael Rubin Started a plant company.

[Flip]

Oh, shit.

[Ish]

Oh, shit. That's what it means. Solar wind. Cause ain't nothing about that sexy.

[Joe Button]

I mean, they Sixer fans, but outside

[Mark Lamont Hill]

of that, you crazy.

[Ice]

That's the least sexiest spot when you

[Joe Button]

talk about Miami and Cleveland.

[Ish]

Cleveland and Cleveland and Golden State.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I tried the story.

[Ice]

You don't think the story. If I could go and deliver a championship to a champion, to a.

[Joe Button]

To a franchise.

[Ice]

Yeah, I've done it. I brought. I went. I already did it in Cleveland. I went back home. I got Cleveland one. I did it in Miami. I put the Lakers back on the map. I went and got the Lakers one. That. Even though people try to throw that asterisk that I disagree with on. But yeah, now if I could go to a. I could even do it in star over here. I could even do it in Philly. Mad season don't have a chance to

[Joe Button]

end your career as a 60 year old.

[Big Freeze]

I started in Cleveland, I made a full transition. I come back to Cleveland and end my career there. That's the fairytale story.

[Ice]

Not one other ring.

[Big Freeze]

Sixers.

[Ice]

If Cleveland has a better shot of

[Big Freeze]

winning him a ring, I don't think

[Mark Lamont Hill]

so, but I don't think Cleveland got a better shot, but me neither. I mean, I don't know how good James Harden will be, but I don't make it about basketball. I'll just say this. I think saying I could even win the Sixers a ring is a hell of a storyline about his greatness on some legend shit. Also, he grew up admiring AI Guy that was, you know, he said that was his favorite player.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Ish]

Elmyra's finest big parks is in the building. Parks, how you doing, man?

[Parks]

Good. I'm great.

[Ish]

Good. We love that. Big Po is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here. By Ramon. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very, very, very important people out there are here. We so glad y' all could be here with us.

[Joe Button]

You could have been anywhere in the world. This started talking about Allen Iverson. He looked up the AI.

[Ish]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

250th anniversary delivery.

[Big Freeze]

Liberty Bell was his favorite thing growing up.

[Ice]

You know what I'm saying?

[Parks]

Y.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just telling you why he gonna do it. He gonna do it cause they gonna win.

[Ice]

Yep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the main reason.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Well, what else are you guys most passionate about?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

By the way?

[Joe Button]

And don't say doom.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no. I was. I was thinking ice. Because he helped me this weekend. I lost my Mother in law for like a couple hours.

[Parks]

Wait, don't say it like that.

[Flip]

Yeah, God damn it.

[Ice]

No, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I literally. So every, Every week I'm in charge of taking her to church.

[Mandy]

Church.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I drop her and I leave. And she no longer. It conflicts with my schedule. Like it's really hard to take her because I got other shit I want to do. And now she has dementia. So every week I'm facing this moral quagmire. Like she don't know if I take her to church or not.

[Joe Button]

That's facts.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I could just. I could just tell my wife, like, yo, church is great.

[Parks]

You just leave her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it's church. What's gonna happen?

[Flip]

All right, come on. I pick her up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I pick her up afterward. But what I'm saying is I wasn't even gonna ask to do so I wasn't even gonna take her. I was gonna leave her at the spot and later on if she say she, you know, whatever. But I decided to take her. But I didn't wait outside. I went and did some other stuff. Went to the dojo, actually. And so when I got back there,

[Flip]

this N picked karate over. Yo, I slapped this n. I'm gonna slap him. Go ahead, man. She wasn't there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Flip.

[Flip]

What a shit. I don't know.

[Joe Button]

He didn't know, bro.

[Flip]

I didn't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had no idea because.

[Parks]

So why is it Put an airtag on her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm gonna start doing. Cause it's on her phone like 12:15. I pick her up. I got there at like 12:18 and there was nobody there. They must have got out early.

[Joe Button]

All motherfuckers with dementia are elusive.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

No, they can get lost.

[Flip]

Yo, she did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I asked everybody where she was. Nobody could find her. Now fast, this is, this isn't the first time I've lost her. It's the second time. The. So this time I knew how to find her. But I, I, I. Cuz she got on the bus last time. Okay, yeah, so. But I didn't know how to where the bus goes. So I called is. He didn't answer. Then I caught. Right. Cuz I was like, who can help me get to Irvington faster than Is? Then I call. Then I call Ice and he, he helped me find the bus route. And I tracked her down on the bus route. She wasn't there. And eventually I was able to locate her without telling my wife.

[Ice]

That's the important part.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause I was terrified. I was going. I was about to hit the shelters. I Was going everywhere to try to find her.

[Flip]

Where did you find her?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She was back at her nursing home. Apparently she forgot I was coming and so she took a cab. Oh, I didn't know she. But she didn't know her address, so I didn't know how she was able to do that. But she was able to find it in her. She had it written in her first.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's the thing about old people with dementia too. They're like keen senses. Like just off their memory of the world. They can make it.

[Ice]

They like a seal.

[Ish]

Like a what?

[Ice]

A whale.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's a whale.

[Parks]

Bird, something.

[Flip]

I know your heart was being.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was so scared, cuz.

[Flip]

They got memories. You didn't tell your wife at all? You told her?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't tell her.

[Flip]

I told her after. That's what I said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now, it's a funny story, but as the time goes on, like, the less if you don't tell her within 15 minutes, you can't tell her.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because now I lost your mom. But I didn't tell you I lost your mom. Got it? So now I gotta find her mom before I can. You always bring back good news.

[Joe Button]

Mm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean? So I brought back good news.

[Joe Button]

Let me tell y' all something. White people on Dateline handle this shit so different.

[Ish]

Yo, honey. Taking mommy in law for a trip. We're going hiking. Stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. White.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Ish]

Stop. They kill the out of somebody. They do.

[Flip]

They do.

[Ice]

I don't know what happened. There's a ransom note.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right. I adore her. I was so scared. That was dark, but it started back in like two minutes. The reason I pick up because I said already. Give me me the information. I was walking through the bus terminal. Everything looking like food to them, man.

[Flip]

It was that you saw Old lady. My mother.

[Ice]

You were showing their pictures.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They was shooting up in there. In their feet. They was. They was rolling dice all kinds of. Yo, I got the up out of there. If she here, she. She fend for herself. She'll figure it out. She got this far.

[Flip]

Stupid Y left stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, man. No, but thank you, Ice.

[Ice]

No doubt. I'm glad it worked out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So next week I'll wait.

[Joe Button]

I know I'm slow.

[Ice]

What did I do? He didn't know.

[Parks]

He looked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had no idea how to find the bus ride. I had no idea how to follow the bus.

[Big Freeze]

To where?

[Ice]

The bus. He didn't know where the station was from here. He not from up here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Flip]

Just put the bus in the joke.

[Ice]

He didn't know the. I don't even know terminal name.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't know the church is in downtown York. New Newark. And I had no idea where the bus in Newark though. I didn't even know. Went to Irvington. That's what said. He gave me all that. Yeah. I mean I just knew she got on the bus before.

[Flip]

So no, he didn't know nothing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So he said there's a bus. Was it Irvington? Yeah. And that's where all the buses go apparently. So I went there and got it

[Ice]

because he was like, yo, one that goes like that way. I know that much.

[Parks]

But it wasn't even the right information.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, but I mean the fact that he was willing to help.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was just happy for the help. Yeah. No, it actually took an air tag I think so I thought that was

[Parks]

going to be the answer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or I could just wait in front of.

[Big Freeze]

Just wait at the church.

[Parks]

Oh yeah. Not leave your mother in law dimension by yourself.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, Judge Judy, somebody.

[Ice]

Somebody was going to put you in a lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's hour 20 minutes in front of a Catholic church. What I'm going to do with my. With my son,

[Ice]

Let them go into church. They be out faster.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true. You stop throwing water on him.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Oh, speaking of older people, Jackie Robinson's widow just celebrated her birthday the other day. She celebrated being 104 years old. So make some noise for that happy birthday.

[Flip]

Make some noise for that Negro leagues, huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's, she's.

[Joe Button]

Did you guys happen to see a picture of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did, I did. She looks great for 104.

[Joe Button]

She looks really, really good for 104.

[Big Freeze]

Let me see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or 94 or 84.

[Parks]

74.

[Joe Button]

Yes. She looks really, really good to be at 104 years old. That's the first time I've ever had the thoughts that I had.

[Ice]

What? What's the thoughts you had?

[Ish]

Ain't that a crime? Yes, it should be.

[Ice]

No, you should be ashamed of yourself. What's the thought you had, Joe?

[Parks]

What?

[Joe Button]

Why? Why should I be ashamed of myself? You said you'd fuck Cher. Same shit.

[Parks]

Cher's not my mom. 30 years.

[Ice]

She's always be Cher's mom and I

[Joe Button]

wasn't that 70 at white is about.

[Ish]

Carried a one. I know. She just look good.

[Joe Button]

That's all. That's all I'm saying. God bless her.

[Big Freeze]

And you had thoughts.

[Flip]

God bless her.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Wow was my thought. Wow. That was it.

[Parks]

That's it.

[Joe Button]

Okay, Mark, you had the same thought, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I times two.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wow, wow, wow.

[Joe Button]

Fold the out. That old lady. That old lady wouldn't stand a chance,

[Ish]

you know what I mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Causing death.

[Flip]

You know what I mean?

[Ish]

What the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Way too early in the show.

[Ish]

That lady to heaven. With the OJ's playing. Here we go.

[Joe Button]

Fold up, too. And they more. They more flexible when they 100.

[Parks]

That's true. That's quite the opposite.

[Flip]

Put that leg over there if you want some.

[Ish]

Break off.

[Ice]

This nigga's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Anyway. Shout out. Shout out to her.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When I called you. You ain't pick up at first.

[Flip]

Were you out of town?

[Big Freeze]

I was in D.C. huh?

[Flip]

What you doing out there, boy?

[Big Freeze]

When Mark called me sweating,

[Flip]

yo. Whoa. Oh, n. Yeah, you getting straight to. Okay. That's my son. Yeah, you back.

[Ish]

You back at 50.

[Flip]

That old thing. He won't hit you, cuz.

[Ish]

He.

[Flip]

Yeah, Pink boy.

[Parks]

What?

[Big Freeze]

I don't even.

[Ice]

I don't know what this talk.

[Flip]

You said it. And you stop.

[Ice]

I said.

[Flip]

I didn't.

[Ice]

I said.

[Big Freeze]

When Mark called me.

[Parks]

Yeah, you said.

[Ice]

And then it was a little pause after that.

[Big Freeze]

I was hanging Sheetrock, sweating my balls off. Yeah, man, when Mark called me, I was working.

[Flip]

So you bought a new. You bought a new spot out there.

[Ice]

I seen the bts were trying.

[Big Freeze]

I was hanging Sheetrock like crazy.

[Flip]

You bought a spot out there.

[Ish]

Ask.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They call it.

[Parks]

I can't.

[Mandy]

We not.

[Ice]

I was working my brother.

[Joe Button]

All right. That's awesome, man. Hope. I hope you had a blood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was trying to get the ish.

[Ish]

Took the train back.

[Ice]

I see where he was going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was just going to itch. Took the train back and just nobody followed me.

[Flip]

Go ahead, give it a shot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not his fault. We did. We took him the wrong. I just said he took the. Anyway, never mind his fault. I thought. I thought it was. We wrote it on the board and everything else. I thought this would be one of

[Flip]

them, like, stop doing that to my man, y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Flip]

No, it's not about Ish enough now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all started with him about hangingrock. That's what we got. I just wasn't. He took the train back. We were joking about taking the train.

[Big Freeze]

No, that was horrible. Couldn't get a flight out. The flight stopped kind of early yesterday. And them shits was mad expensive.

[Flip]

What the Is so funny. You stupid nigga.

[Joe Button]

I have no idea.

[Flip]

He spitting coffee on all the place. Stop. It's the show. He stopped. I'm not allowing y' all to do that. Stop playing.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And this comes out Show Joe's face when he started talking. You do this thing where you purse your lips up and you turn to the side. Cause you about to clown for no fucking reason. You telling a good story.

[Joe Button]

I promise you I wasn't doing that just now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're fucking ass.

[Ish]

I thought you was laughing because he said the flight. Every time he out of town, Delta have problems.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

His delays getting over.

[Ish]

There's always flight cancellations. Fucking free condoms being given out. That's what they come up and think. Hey, anybody that's we having some trouble. Anybody willing to travel later gets a room and condoms. That's what it's go running up there

[Mark Lamont Hill]

crazy.

[Ish]

Oh, God. Yo, y' all don't judge them people to go up there.

[Ice]

No.

[Parks]

They give you some bread.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'd be jealous.

[Ice]

I would do it. Depending on how bad I got to get back, I would do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I always wish I could do it.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

What you got to get back for? To be a father? What you rushing back?

[Ish]

No, see, I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm joking.

[Ish]

What? No, y' all don't joking to people, for real.

[Joe Button]

When they not paying you big time money. Cuz some of them trips, they be

[Ish]

like, yo, I got 1500.

[Parks]

I made more from the flight delay that I did off the gig. I was like, stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If they tell me I can just stay another day as this place I want to be and give me a whole other free ticket. I just never had the time to do it. I usually have to get back.

[Big Freeze]

I never did it. But sometimes when be $800,000 to take

[Mark Lamont Hill]

a next flight for 1,500 is crazy.

[Big Freeze]

1500 is crazy. Yeah, but no, I wouldn't do it. My ego would be kicking in, I guess.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did your ego hit you on the train?

[Big Freeze]

Hell yeah. That was terrible.

[Parks]

What train was the Amtrak?

[Ice]

Yeah, he was on a sub.

[Big Freeze]

Nah, Mr. Acelo. I took the next joint.

[Ice]

I took the regular joint.

[Big Freeze]

But you still was business class and all that other shit. No, that business class was ass. That was a small business.

[Ice]

That was horrible. My.

[Big Freeze]

My neck was hurting. I ain't had no usbc.

[Joe Button]

All that shit.

[Big Freeze]

I want to fold with ice. Like, yo, this is some bullshit.

[Joe Button]

Y' all call each other for everything.

[Ice]

I got a block.

[Flip]

Apparently we all call ice.

[Ish]

I've never been happier to not talk

[Ice]

to you niggas outside.

[Ish]

Yo, you believe they don't have A U U C B S in this motherfucker? Oh, my God.

[Ice]

But no, that shit was trash.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how you know you getting bougie

[Ice]

yeah, that shit was terrible.

[Big Freeze]

I'm not even gonna hold you. And seller cuts like, an hour off the trip, so. The last hour, I was awake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You were awake On a train in business class.

[Ice]

Must've been horrible.

[Parks]

I'm sorry you went through that Pursue

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Happiness Part 2.

[Joe Button]

Wilmington.

[Flip]

Out of here.

[Ice]

Nah, that was horrible, My man. No bueno.

[Joe Button]

All right, but did she check on you at least?

[Big Freeze]

Who she.

[Joe Button]

Come on.

[Ice]

My girl booked it.

[Joe Button]

Don't be stupid. Who else?

[Ice]

My girl booked it.

[Flip]

They play.

[Joe Button]

All right, now my lip is doing the thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I felt it.

[Ish]

My girl.

[Flip]

Anywho, talking about. Motherfucker. Stop.

[Ish]

Hey, what are y' all most passionate about? Come on, let's have a good time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Clearly nothing.

[Ish]

Let's have a good time.

[Joe Button]

Oh, man.

[Ice]

I like the verses. I don't know if y' all want to start there.

[Ish]

Let's go.

[Parks]

Let's do it.

[Joe Button]

They gonna call us the Versus cast.

[Ice]

Yeah, well, we gotta start dinner. Y' all want to.

[Joe Button]

No, they can call me a Versus cast. I don't give a fuck.

[Parks]

They're called worse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think me and Ice gonna be. I think me and you gonna agree on this.

[Ice]

Well, they announced another Versus, which will be later this week. It's Game versus YG tomorrow.

[Parks]

Oh, it's tomorrow.

[Joe Button]

Tomorrow.

[Parks]

Damn, that's cool.

[Ice]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

But, yeah, I saw a lot of. Oh, this don't even make sense. Game is going to wash. I think y' all look for a rude awakening.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

YG's going to surprise. And it's in Cali.

[Parks]

It's in Cali. Oh, yeah. I got yg.

[Ice]

I got yg.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got YG winning. Okay, so we all agree, really?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Ish]

And I like Gabe's music more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love Gabe's music.

[Parks]

YG out there is different.

[Ice]

Not in California. He has anthems out. Game raps better. Game makes better albums. Game is the better artist for a Versus stage. Well, yg, it's Apple's. It's Apple's arm.

[Parks]

YG came out at that pop up. It was like Michael Jackson or something went on stage. Like, people came rushing out of nowhere, bum rushing the whole show.

[Flip]

So you think that the crowd in the venue are going to dictate who wins when we're watching it?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, they can.

[Parks]

It does a lot.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, they can.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That energy going.

[Flip]

I got gifts.

[Mandy]

Game.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And people gonna forget how many. How many anthems YG got?

[Ice]

Yep.

[Flip]

Yeah, but. Hate it. I love it. Like, what we talking about? What's.

[Ice]

What's.

[Flip]

What?

[Ice]

Yeah, I Don't think dream does as well as you think it will in the versus crowd. I see everybody kept going to that record. YG got songs, bro. When BPT come on, you'll see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, there's.

[Ice]

I don't. There's. There might be one record in games catalog that could with BPT on a versus stage. I'm only. I'm not talking about. About the better rapping the. I'm just specifically saying on a versus stage hit for hit in a California crowd. It ain't a lot.

[Flip]

This is how we do.

[Ice]

What's that?

[Flip]

You think this is how we do. Going to do good out there.

[Ice]

That's the record I was talking about.

[Flip]

Flip.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How you think last time I check going to go off exactly right. That going to set the.

[Ice]

Just that right there going. They turned already as soon as the beat drop.

[Joe Button]

Okay, hold on.

[Ice]

I'm telling you something.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ice]

Ain't no need for no caption I got put on by 4 wasn't need

[Flip]

for no bandage I did my stuff

[Mark Lamont Hill]

like a young that's hopping down right

[Flip]

duck hit him with the left Two to the chest one to the chest

[Joe Button]

There was nothing bad I could say

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yeah

[Ice]

my come on problem who you see you got.

[Flip]

You got YG winning as well. No, no, he got.

[Joe Button]

I'm from the era I ain't these I ain't none of these new I'm from the era I'm from the town yeah, I'm from the town. I don't know what they're doing. I'm shocked at Ice.

[Ish]

I saw Ice's tweets.

[Ice]

Now why you shocked at me?

[Joe Button]

Oh, why was I shocked at you?

[Ice]

Yeah, I'm just curious.

[Joe Button]

Cause I've heard your commentary about Game over the years and I almost feel like I've heard you say n don't want to see Game wanna verse.

[Big Freeze]

He has said that.

[Joe Button]

I know how you feel about Game. So the fact that once it was announced and all your tweets to me look like it was actually you said it.

[Ice]

I got yg.

[Mandy]

Yeah,

[Ice]

I do have. Like I said in the beginning, Game is a much better rapper. Game has probably, in my opinion, a top five discography in hip hop. We not talking about that on a versus stage, though. I'm only speaking to this being a versus. If this was anything else, it's not close. And in California, I know what YG music.

[Joe Button]

I'm not from California.

[Ice]

Why do y' all keep saying this?

[Joe Button]

Because I'm confused.

[Ice]

California fucks with YG music way more than Game though. He's like a culture than they do game. It is.

[Big Freeze]

It is.

[Ice]

He's like a culture.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is.

[Ice]

It's telling you.

[Joe Button]

Listen, listen.

[Ice]

It's levels.

[Joe Button]

I can't argue with y', all because on A versus stage, we have seen the regional sound be dominant. Yeah, yeah, we've seen that. So I'm not gonna say that anybody's crazy. I'm not doing none of that. I think game is gonna learn a

[Ice]

lot of people, and I think it's just the other way around. I think a lot of people. Game is more.

[Joe Button]

YG may win in that building because of la, but I don't even know about that. Cause I expect Game to make it

[Ice]

look like it's supposed to look. See, I think just YG being there makes it look like it's supposed to look.

[Joe Button]

Well, he's gonna make it look like

[Ice]

it's supposed to look without game.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Joe Button]

Nah. I got game matching that energy.

[Ice]

Let me ask you, what does game do with. Is that slower? No.

[Joe Button]

Hey,

[Ice]

I'm telling you.

[Joe Button]

Hey, wait a minute.

[Ish]

Wait a minute now.

[Joe Button]

Wait a minute.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait.

[Ish]

Hey, that point.

[Joe Button]

I'm playing some.

[Ish]

When that come on. Yeah. I'm going to the bathroom. I ain't playing nothing on my new sleep.

[Ice]

I'm dropping this tonight. Freestyle now.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm conceding now. What that. What you got?

[Ice]

Okay.

[Ish]

Oh, now what you got, big dog?

[Ice]

Throw my four club out.

[Ish]

You such a phony. You got a cord now for yg.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought you was going to come

[Ice]

in here and start playing game records. Go Ali boom B and all that. And I was ready. That's why I'm like, oh, no, no, no. Go ahead.

[Flip]

I can't believe you.

[Ish]

But I didn't do nothing.

[Ice]

I let you go. I just played two records, but I'm not playing nothing.

[Flip]

What are you talking.

[Ish]

I'm chilling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You backed him down.

[Ish]

Was he challenging me to, like, some type of.

[Ice]

You've done that in the past. And I a have a chord. So I said, you know what I told Parks this morning? Let me get a chord. Yeah, you've done that. What he going to do to this? And you plugged up and threw a record on. I got to sit here with the rabbit.

[Ish]

I thought he was just asking a

[Joe Button]

question, which is, what does he do when this comes on? I say concede. So you. You played two records.

[Ish]

Making me mad. They making me mad. About to open this laptop. I'm about to open this laptop.

[Flip]

He think he scared somebody with that laptop.

[Ice]

Why would a laptop. Laptop Too.

[Joe Button]

I feel like Game got a lot more records.

[Ice]

He does.

[Ish]

I feel like Game has a lot more records.

[Joe Button]

He don't have as many big records.

[Ice]

That's what we talking about. All we talking about for the Game

[Ish]

has all the big records.

[Ice]

Let me please give me four. You only got to play them.

[Joe Button]

Just say them if you want.

[Ish]

God, hate it.

[Flip]

Love it. One blood. One blood.

[Joe Button]

Okay, how we do.

[Flip]

This is how we do. That's three. Come on and dream.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Four.

[Joe Button]

100.

[Parks]

100 is a better.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm waiting for 100.

[Parks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

Five.

[Ice]

Game, Drake. 100.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, yeah. Game, Drake.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Joe Button]

100. One blood.

[Ish]

Higher.

[Joe Button]

It's just off the top of my head.

[Ice]

That's all that is with this.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's what I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's half the songs you just said.

[Flip]

Yeah, I just called out six last time.

[Ice]

Last time that I checked.

[Flip]

We can see, right?

[Joe Button]

Shut your ass up. Shut the up now. Just coming out. Want some?

[Ish]

Just coming out. Are you talking about.

[Joe Button]

Don't piss me off.

[Ish]

Put my gun up. I don't need that. I'm riding with Dre. Who don't love us? Every hood throwing. Who the y' all thought was coming after Young Buck?

[Joe Button]

Who the you thought was coming after Young Buck?

[Ish]

And this is just on some light shit like playing. We didn't have to go back and forth.

[Joe Button]

Give me a score. Give me a score.

[Parks]

It's going to be close.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got 12. I got close.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got 12.

[Flip]

Eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

I got YG. But by. By. By maybe two rounds.

[Joe Button]

Let me advance the conversation right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

If YG. That just happened.

[Joe Button]

That was a mistake,

[Flip]

you ass Free.

[Ish]

I promise that was a mistake.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You did that on purpose.

[Joe Button]

If YG was wins this, it's gonna be. Cause it's. Cause he's great and he's got a great catalog. Yes, but it's gonna be because of Mustard. That's we're with.

[Ice]

Not always we're with.

[Joe Button]

I know he's got more, but his classic is with Mustard. He's got classics with Mustard.

[Ice]

He got classics after Mustard With Game

[Joe Button]

is not necessarily fair because he tarnished his relationship with his producer guy.

[Ish]

And if him and Dre was cool,

[Joe Button]

then his conversation goes this differently.

[Ice]

Okay, that could be true. But yg, hold on. YG and Mustard also had a falling out and didn't work together for a long time. And he put out a bunch of records that still worked that he are gonna. That's gonna. That you're gonna hear at this versus stage without mustard. Mustard wasn't YG's whole career, they fell out, I think maybe after like album two.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And he kept going. So he got records that are gonna play, that are gonna work, that are gonna get that crowd rocking, that are gonna score points with no mustard.

[Parks]

It's gonna be a lot of mustard.

[Joe Button]

Jumbo K. Let me hear one.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, cool.

[Joe Button]

Let me hear one. Since you got a cord.

[Ice]

Yep, I got a cord.

[Joe Button]

Since you got a cord, let me hear some non mustard.

[Ish]

Oh, you gonna play that record where you talked about how he lost his.

[Ice]

No.

[Joe Button]

How the babies. How the babies come on.

[Mandy]

Let's see.

[Joe Button]

Let me see what you got.

[Ice]

Hip Records is coming on in la.

[Ish]

The roof gonna come off that bitch. I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Button]

This roof's gonna come off.

[Ice]

That's just one. Hold on, I'll go.

[Joe Button]

This. Why you so old?

[Ice]

Feature bag is gonna be. The roof is where he's gonna really get crazy if you drag him in the feature bag water. It's gonna get. It's gonna get murky. YG has those. But hold on. What feature.

[Joe Button]

What feature you got?

[Ish]

You got a cord?

[Ice]

Let me hear.

[Ish]

You got a cord?

[Ice]

Let me hear.

[Joe Button]

Maybe, I don't know.

[Ice]

He'll play this one.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You go ahead.

[Ice]

That's coming on. That's mustard.

[Parks]

That's a tough.

[Joe Button]

This YG is just too la.

[Ice]

That's coming on and it's going to work in la.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had it, then you lost all the shot.

[Ice]

Oh, I'm telling you something, bro. Bro, it's going. It's going to work a lot more

[Joe Button]

deep down if YG wins. I don't know if I'm going to come in a minute.

[Ice]

Oh, that's fine.

[Joe Button]

You won't have to.

[Ice]

You don't have. I didn't. Trust me. I barely scratched the surf.

[Joe Button]

I want to see it go. I don't know if game takes, even accepts this if it's as lopsided as ice mix.

[Ice]

I didn't say lopsided.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but you playing a lot of joints.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm saying 12, eight.

[Ice]

I. I mean, I'm not saying this ain't going to be pretty Ricky B2K

[Mark Lamont Hill]

if it ain't going to be a ties either.

[Flip]

Left nine and 12 eight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, you can't get much. You know what I mean?

[Ice]

Like, look, let's put it like this. When Ross and French was announced, people were like, yo, this is not a matchup. And then French went in there and reminded Bong, bong, bong, bong, bong. The consensus was French won that Versus.

[Joe Button]

Stop.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Question. Has there been a versus?

[Ice]

It can happen, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Question. Has there been a versus where the underdog hasn't won?

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, tell me which ones.

[Flip]

Has not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Has not won? Because it seems like versus a lot of times is the.

[Ice]

I don't think the locks was the underdog.

[Joe Button]

The locks was 100.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I thought.

[Ice]

I don't. I don't know about that.

[Joe Button]

Yes, there was. Check your own. Check your own tape.

[Ice]

I believe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think I could be wrong.

[Ish]

Was Dipset. Dipset.

[Joe Button]

All these new kids running around. That's what I'm saying. You got to be from the cloth a little bit with these things.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My only point is, like, the underdog wins a lot in verses.

[Ish]

A lot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And part of it is because he has a late. Because they catch people by surprise. That's what I'm saying. We've seen it a lot, so I wouldn't. And YG's the underdog in this, cuz. That's what I'm saying.

[Flip]

The underdog of Gyro. Fat Joe. Fat Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's true. That's. That's a good example. That's a good example.

[Ice]

We go back.

[Ish]

Oh, all right. I forgot. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on.

[Ish]

I don't know just yet. Hold up. I been around the world. Been around the. Vita used to have my boy Ish nose in there. Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. Yo, my boy is Vita Guerrero. Used to have my boy in a curly fry, in a frenzy.

[Joe Button]

My.

[Ish]

He ain't never gonna admit to it

[Joe Button]

because Ego, you know, but back in

[Big Freeze]

the day, bro, something wrong with you, bro.

[Ish]

There's nothing wrong with it. She did that to Mad Dog.

[Big Freeze]

I wasn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did you play this already?

[Ice]

No, I did not.

[Joe Button]

They all sound the same.

[Ice]

Oh,

[Ish]

How many of my motherfuckers.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Ice]

Play if you want.

[Parks]

YG's a tough out, yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm telling you, he's a tough out.

[Ice]

Yo, I would have rather have seen YG versus Tyga.

[Big Freeze]

Stop it.

[Flip]

Wait, What?

[Parks]

I get it. But.

[Ice]

But this is a Compton thing, I guess.

[Joe Button]

That's the. That's the. That's the 40 yard dash versus the 200 yard dash.

[Ice]

Wait, who you had?

[Parks]

Tiger got a lot of slaps.

[Ice]

Tiger got a lot. I want. That's another one. I want on the stage, on a versus stage to remind people, because when they name come up, it's like. But then when you start to hear them, you like, oh, oh, oh. That's what YG's gonna do. That's why I like verses. I like when that happens. When that Pretty Ricky we was telling yo. I don't know. And then what happened? Oh, oh, oh.

[Joe Button]

Pretty Ricky. Ain't I still got some of them songs playing. Pretty Ricky went there and turned. Pretty Ricky made B2K push their little single drop back.

[Ish]

Remember that little mileage record was. They pushed that back, boy. Talking about some mileage.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I know.

[Ice]

They sat down with it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Another underdog.

[Ish]

We didn't talk last week about DJ Khaled's pushback.

[Parks]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Did he actually announce it? Did it just not drop?

[Joe Button]

It didn't drop. And then I saw him on an interview talking about it not dropping. Let me see if I can find the clip as y' all speak.

[Ice]

I knew that wasn't dropping.

[Joe Button]

Oh, yeah, everybody.

[Ice]

Cuz for Khaled to drop, he needs the A single. No, he needs a hit.

[Parks]

Well, at least a single.

[Ice]

It has to be a. But you. But you know how the way he does everything has to be massive.

[Parks]

Yeah, true.

[Ice]

So without that, it's been way too quiet for Khaled. He can't drop no album right now.

[Parks]

Yeah, you can't drop album.

[Ice]

Impossible. I'm telling you, once. Once he put that little Drake post up there. Drake Bell. You knew right then and there.

[Flip]

Because he was probably relying on those records to be. Got it. Yeah.

[Ice]

Damn. He was running around. The last album with the Drake features K in that. I mean, the Drake vocals came in. That was the rollout.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Letting know. Hey, I got the Drake vocals. And now if I can't use that. You took my big joker away and I only had one spade anyway.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Cat should have spoke up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I don't see it.

[Ice]

That said Drake Bell. That was funny.

[Joe Button]

So.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So what does he do now? You think he waits like a long time? Like pushes it back like crazy?

[Ice]

Or you think it's just a couple weeks, I think. But he still need a single, so until we get a single, we'll have no idea.

[Joe Button]

Why does he need a single?

[Ice]

Because that's what Khaled built his brand on.

[Joe Button]

But so why he can't change it?

[Parks]

Because he's not.

[Ice]

I don't think he'll take the risk. He can.

[Big Freeze]

He's not a performer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's not making music. Yeah. He can't like put a song without it.

[Parks]

Yeah. You need a single if you're not.

[Ice]

I think if I'm not mistaken. Oh, go ahead. I think this Aroma record is part

[Flip]

of all my studio process. You know, like I said, everything's for my family.

[Parks]

And.

[Flip]

And, you know, this album, everybody been waiting for it. You know, I was originally gonna come out this week, you know what I'm saying? But the album keeps getting bigger and bigger, so we need a bigger date. Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

You know what I'm saying?

[Flip]

That's just how it goes with music,

[Ish]

you know what I'm saying?

[Flip]

You remember, I've been doing this for 20 years, you know what I'm saying? I put out 13 albums. I am beyond grateful and thankful for everything that we've done right. And hip hop changed my life. And I live and breathe and sleep and embrace hip hop. That's what I am. But this next album Alama got, it's like, why am I gonna rush? And every time I make some new music, I get another opportunity to make something even bigger. And I get like, I just left the Jay Z shows, the Roots Picnic the other day, the Jay Z show. I got inspired even more. Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

You know what I'm saying, man?

[Flip]

I went all three nights. You did all three nights. So I got inspired even more.

[Parks]

I think all that could be true.

[Ice]

And he doesn't have all that.

[Parks]

I don't know if it's Cap.

[Joe Button]

I believe that he's.

[Ice]

If he had a record. I'm just saying a record that I could begin my rollout on, it would be out.

[Parks]

Agree.

[Ice]

He don't have that.

[Parks]

I think both.

[Ice]

Both can be true.

[Big Freeze]

He's experienced enough and.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Big Freeze]

And accomplished enough to know when I got that song.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

And I need song I can't drop.

[Joe Button]

I think it's a bunch of people. Y' all got up.

[Ice]

What you mean?

[Joe Button]

Y' all think Cali can't get a record because Drake said it must? No, no, no, no.

[Ice]

That's what I'm saying.

[Parks]

He can't. No.

[Big Freeze]

He might not have the song that he feels confident enough to be like, this is one of the ones to reintroduce myself after this long layover.

[Ice]

Look at the records that Khaled has rolled out for his albums as his singles. He had take Drake off the table. And I'm not talking about back to the. Like, I'm on ones. I'm just talking about as a recent.

[Parks]

You have to take back even before that.

[Ice]

But I'm saying you've had the Rihanna, Bryson Tiller record, HOV and Future. You've had what else you. I said Drake a couple times. You had Kanye. Like, you need to go and get these people. If you move Drake off the board, HOV is clearly doing something so he might not be giving you one right now. You already only got four or five pieces that you could use. And if they're not in the mix, it's hard for you to get that level of record that you need. Everything else will be fire. I'm pretty sure Khaled has a album, but he's missing the one to get the ball rolling and he can't get it right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that might be his own standard again. I think I want one of those.

[Ice]

I want.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want to. I don't want something I don't want.

[Big Freeze]

And again, he's the dude that would know it when he got it.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

He know lightning in a bottle when he sees.

[Joe Button]

Or he could be going to get it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what we think.

[Ice]

I'm saying he don't got it yet. If you were going to get it, we wouldn't have had the album date from him. We wouldn't have had all of that yet. He hasn't done that like that.

[Joe Button]

Well, no, he had the date because I believe he had a record and now he don't have a record.

[Ice]

That's you saying what? We saying he don't have a record yet.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but y' all saying it as

[Parks]

if he can't get it without.

[Big Freeze]

No, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Even you saying there's only five pieces

[Joe Button]

he can move around. I. I disagree with that.

[Flip]

I think his relationship.

[Ish]

That's what. That's.

[Ice]

You're not hearing what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying five pieces to move around for that big record, to start the album, the role.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why I'm disagreeing with that because that's

[Ice]

the part that he said he started that.

[Parks]

But there's other.

[Joe Button]

But not with five people is all I'm saying.

[Ice]

Listen, as of late, go look at his discography. The last, let's say, five Khaled albums, the lead single has been one of maybe five people. And if they're not in the picture, what do I do now for the lead single? I'm only talking about the lead single.

[Parks]

He's done it with the Bieber record. He did it with fucking.

[Big Freeze]

TI is hot right now.

[Ice]

Brand is. And what he presents today, Nothing against ti. I need something that when I drop it, it's number one on the chart immediately. TI's not going to do that for him right now.

[Joe Button]

You think that because we put a lot of this on Khaled, you think that there's a world where ROC Nation is not going to have him have that?

[Ice]

I think this Aroma record Is the start of that.

[Joe Button]

Is the start of what?

[Ice]

The Khaled Rollout record run. I think that's this. Joe and Jada are smoking hot. They're Rock Nation. Cali's Rock Nation. This whole play. Stove guy. Rock Nation. This whole play is Rock Nation. The. The premiere of the record, the record being out the track, the traction around the record. I think this is the start for the Khaled Rollout.

[Joe Button]

And if this is the start and you're right, I'm going to trash this out of this.

[Ice]

But he still needs one of them. I'm saying he's finally got something.

[Big Freeze]

Something.

[Ice]

We ain't even seen him outside of being visible at games and stuff. The way that they premiered this record, him standing up, doing his dancing and all of that. We ain't seen Khaled like that. This is Rollout. They just shot the video. They just shot the video.

[Joe Button]

This is Rollout Joe's family. So we're gonna shoot the video.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Parks]

I think it's part of it.

[Joe Button]

What's the new date?

[Big Freeze]

I don't know.

[Ish]

We don't know.

[Joe Button]

We know we don't have a date.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Khaled wasn't even on the board. What else we got?

[Ice]

Y' all know how we got after that?

[Joe Button]

No.

[Big Freeze]

That. You don't like that record.

[Ice]

I love that song.

[Joe Button]

Yes, I do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not for.

[Big Freeze]

For a single.

[Ice]

And that's all I'm saying. Like, I mean, I know we kind of closed this, but all the people that he normally would run with, Wayne Ross, TI they're not going to move the needle to where he needs it.

[Parks]

What about Chris? What about Bees? What about. Shit Tiller again. What about Taylor?

[Ice]

Not going to do it.

[Joe Button]

Why would Tilling. Oh, you're saying that wouldn't be a name.

[Flip]

He wouldn't move the needles.

[Ice]

And it wasn't Tiller. It was Rihanna and Tiller that did the record.

[Joe Button]

True.

[Ice]

So Rihanna's again. Another one off the. Off the table.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true, Joe.

[Parks]

Future could

[Ice]

Future.

[Parks]

There's other people that can.

[Ice]

Yeah, but you would have to do something. It's hard right now.

[Parks]

Cali knows how to make a big record. If you put Future on a big record, that Cali.

[Ice]

That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

It could work. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Joe Unip. I watched the Rihanna footage again. I realized that when I was. We were watching it that night, I may have been caught up in the moment and all the shots, all of that in the seat. It was not quite the level of performance that I would have expected from a Legend.

[Ice]

I really don't understand.

[Flip]

Why would you have any expectations for somebody that was legit laid off for about three years after having children?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not applying any judgment to it. I was just fighting back, like, it wasn't that bad. It was that bad.

[Flip]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I'm saying.

[Flip]

It was that bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And again, I love her, I adore her and I think she's gonna come back with something fire.

[Flip]

But that hold on in my mind, in my mind in real time.

[Big Freeze]

Five hour layover.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Again, no judgment.

[Big Freeze]

The show was supposed to start at 8 o'.

[Ice]

Clock.

[Big Freeze]

They went on stage at 12 something. By the time she got on the stage, it might have been one something. I'm sitting in the back enjoying my. They won't let my husband and my babies in. I'm back this bitch tossing them shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We was get it. I'm no judgment. I'm just saying I didn't. When I watched it back, it was not, you know, when you in the moment, you don't see it the same way. When I went back and watched it, I was like, oh, you guys are

[Flip]

too critical for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My witch was Dre. I see deadbeat. Oh, this N Petty.

[Joe Button]

I ain't running just yet from the beef nigga. I ain't running just yet from the

[Ice]

beef I'm still here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shut your ass.

[Ish]

Don't make him break the court again. Shut your ass. Ass up. From the dead that's why they call him the doctor the mad going to drop him and 50 ain't rocking with him no more it's okay Whole club

[Flip]

rocking like a six

[Ish]

hydraulic Then piss

[Flip]

in the cup Call the hypnotic I bleed confident spit crazy crack is yo, listen, man.

[Ish]

Now it's time for my favorite part. Now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize picks. All right. The summer of soccer is in the rear view, but you can still make all your summer sports picks on prize picks. Preseason football is kicking off and the WNBA and baseball are heating up. Throw in big tennis slams and fight nights and there's no better place for all your summer sports picks than and prize picks.

[Joe Button]

America's number one sports picks app.

[Ish]

Prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their

[Joe Button]

projected stat line and pick more or less. Pardon me. For your chance to win big and

[Ish]

the ishpics of the week, we are

[Joe Button]

going with Kayla McBride for more than

[Ish]

two and a half rebounds. Camila Cardoso for more than 12 and a half points. Points Cameron Brink for more than eight

[Joe Button]

points and Sonia Citron for more than 14 and a half points. I'mma throw to Olivia, girl with Afro in there just to do it. And there you have it.

[Ice]

Whatever you say. Olivia Miles points more. Yeah, that can say 50. I'm going more.

[Joe Button]

I am.

[Ish]

So don't forget to use promo code JBP to get 50 instantly when you play your first $5 line.

[Joe Button]

Only on prize picks, the official partner of the NBA.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So since we talk about music, by the way, you did that cut and run shit with the game music. You see what he did?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, nigga punched him as hard as

[Joe Button]

he could and ran as fast as he could. Game has 10,000 songs in my serato, so I'm just randomly pulling shit up. I do think that with a concentrated effort, he'll show up today off the wing. I expect Ice to fully beat me down with YG Song, so I'm backing down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

Fair enough.

[Ice]

That's cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was listening to the conversation going online about 50 Cent and whether 50 could do what Jay just did at Yankee Stadium, you know, three nights, et cetera. And I wasn't that interested in it until I saw 50 himself jump in.

[Ice]

What did he say?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He basically said, check the number. He said, google me. Check the numbers. I done international.

[Ice]

He did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I put up crazy numbers in stadiums around the world.

[Ice]

He did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, so it was an interesting comeback. I don't think it matters though.

[Ice]

It's moved the goal post a little bit because Hov did three. Well, two separate albums.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

So the thing is, can 50 do that now?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think he could do it. One.

[Ice]

I don't think he could definitely do it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You think he could sell Nicky Stadium about three nights in a.

[Parks]

No, I don't know about that.

[Ice]

I think that's what I'm saying. Let me now. I think yes. If he did it with this format, if he did Some Get Rich or Die Trying anniversary night one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Packed.

[Flip]

Packed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Ice]

No, no, no.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

Sell out. G Unit Night 2. Awesome. G Unit reunion type the whole G Unit night two.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you mean what game?

[Ice]

Whatever

[Flip]

game.

[Ice]

Drink Uni. No, you don't. Crazy. G Unit. This is New York.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yankee Stadium.

[Ice]

This is New York.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ain't you the one to say no? Can't nobody sell Yankee Stadium.

[Joe Button]

It would be Shade Stadium. But

[Ice]

City. But. But still G Unit night too. And then 50 absolutely could do an extra innings type of.

[Joe Button]

For.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For like 50 and friends.

[Ice]

Yeah, 50 and friends. Absolutely.

[Flip]

Justin Timberlake.

[Joe Button]

So Ice, you're saying he could sell out. Yes, Mark, you're saying he could not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't see it. Well, for one, I don't. You the one that's always saying no rappers out there can sell out stadiums.

[Ice]

No, no, no. I hate. Don't misinterpret. No rapper can do a tour, a stadium tour in the United States. Dolo. That's what I say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's fair. When I watch artists do their hometown, which does help, it's an enormous accomplishment to be able to sell out a field, a whole a field. Yes, I think he could do it, but I've also seen people not do it. But when you start getting to night two and night three, that's what you separate the night.

[Ice]

HOV wouldn't have been able to do it if it wasn't for Reasonable Doubt Blueprint. If it wasn't for those themed. If HOV just said I'm doing Jay Z and Friends, Yankee Stadium, three nights. I don't think he sells it out.

[Flip]

I don't think he would.

[Ice]

I don't think he sells that out.

[Flip]

I think wanting to see him is why he sold it. Jay doing it's shows like that, he doesn't, he doesn't spread himself thin.

[Big Freeze]

And his catalog is so extensive that he has enough bangers that everybody that I saw in that crowd, man, woman, boy, girl, 20 years old, 40 years old, was singing those songs word for word for word. You got to have 50 songs to do that, 60 songs to do that. A lot of these artists catalog is long enough where they have 50 and 60 recognizable songs by the man asses.

[Joe Button]

With all, all due respect in the world to 50, I don't think 50 could physically do the show. That stage was huge. That stage was huge. Humongous

[Big Freeze]

breath control.

[Joe Button]

He had to get in shape.

[Ice]

That's why he walked out looking like that.

[Joe Button]

He was in shape. Like 50 is in TV world. I don't know if he's working out actively or Antonio and Uncle Murder finished every, every sentence.

[Big Freeze]

Good point, good point.

[Joe Button]

So would he be able to sell out? Who knows? I think that leads to an interesting conversation too about who spends more money between Queens and Brooklyn. Yeah, because Brooklyn showed up three nights in a row, bro. So it didn't really matter that. It didn't really matter that it was three nights. Brooklyn is coming out all three times, same people.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Can Queens do that?

[Big Freeze]

I think it's going some more than that because there are people that flew in from other states and went to two and three shows. They didn't go to One show and go back home. Was here from dc. Was here from la. That went to all three shows.

[Joe Button]

Who was here from dc?

[Big Freeze]

Mad people.

[Flip]

Was here.

[Ice]

Yo.

[Big Freeze]

That went to all three shows.

[Joe Button]

But give of me couple. A couple names.

[Flip]

Cynthia, Angela, Renee.

[Big Freeze]

No, I just think that. I think that 50 cent could def. By easily, easily, easily, easily.

[Parks]

Sh.

[Joe Button]

He should do that first with all white names.

[Big Freeze]

Sh. Shay Stadium.

[Ish]

It was Sally and Becky. Karen, Cynthia.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, I mean but I. I just don't know if he could do it three nights. Even if he broke it up in a manner in which ice broke it down. I don't think 60000 people come out to see Juan.

[Ice]

But I'm just saying you have to break it. You have to break it up that way you. You have to. I have to break it up.

[Flip]

He did.

[Big Freeze]

I'm not. And this again, it's a no shot to 50 Cent. He's him. I just don't think that 50 cents catalogs. Jay Z got 16 albums dog of recognizable songs. So my point is, even if the album was bad, it's three recognizable. Four recognizable songs per album. I just don't think 50 Cent and them got enough songs to warrant people coming out three days in a row to see.

[Joe Button]

Show wasn't but 90 minutes.

[Flip]

Yeah, he didn't play all those songs 90 minutes.

[Ice]

And like I said, if I'm doing get Richard d trying night one, 50

[Big Freeze]

could do two hours again three nights in a row. That's the point that we making. Of course he can sell our.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me ask another question. This is a little more. It's a little more touchy. But like there's a way that the Jay Z event was a celebrity event. It was a star studded event. People from all over the place.

[Ice]

You had to be there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a can't miss event. Yes, the 50 show was gonna be for the heads. The 50 show was gonna be for people who love 50. And I love 50. I love G unit. But 50. But Jay Z's kind of worshiped and loved. He's like a star. Star.

[Ice]

I get what you say.

[Joe Button]

They gonna call me over in Drum Channel.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I get what you say.

[Flip]

What you getting. Let him say it, nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't think 50 is. I was hoping somebody 50's not gonna

[Ice]

bring out the stars. Like that is what he's trying to do.

[Flip]

50 Cent.

[Big Freeze]

He's not coming out to see 50 Cent. The, the actors and the A listers and the who's who's may not fill up the stadium for 50 cents fam,

[Ice]

niggas treated that New York run that HOV did. No matter where you were in the world, you had to be there, right? Like there was more, like you said. And because it was the importance of reasonable doubt, blueprint, extra innings, you had to catch all three of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

They be like, yo, all right, I caught this night.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We out. You gotta kill DC Coming all the way up to.

[Flip]

Do we know that Eminem and Dre make sure for 50.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But they ain't coming three nights.

[Ice]

They don't have to keep going, Right?

[Flip]

We don't know the other relationships. We put TV execs.

[Ish]

I don't know.

[Big Freeze]

I'm asking you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think

[Ice]

performing with him. Okay, that's on stage.

[Flip]

Listen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's the other thing. I don't know who coming to perform with 50.

[Flip]

50 has made him. Himself. I don't know his relationships, but if we talk about music is that he has sort of made himself and caused a separation between him and a couple of artists and people based off of his jokes and online.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that's what I'm trying to say.

[Flip]

If people are taking that personal, then yes. However, I do see some people coming out for 50 celebrating get rich or Die Trial.

[Ice]

We do that on one night.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Absolutely.

[Flip]

Because of what that album did for N in that time. Saying what J album did. I can see people coming out. They don't necessarily have to be his friend or be cool with him or go back stage. I see niggas coming outside.

[Big Freeze]

Using your point, right? Using your point. Let's say he mended all of his relationships across the board, every single one of them, and everybody was open to coming.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Dre, Em Game, Lil Kim, Lil Magic

[Ice]

Stick Kim, all his relationships. Ja Ja.

[Big Freeze]

They never had a song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now we're in fantasy world.

[Flip]

They never had a song. No, no, no, no.

[Ice]

We talking again.

[Big Freeze]

They don't have songs. I'm talking about songs with.

[Flip]

Oh.

[Ice]

Oh, my bad, my bad. But just in this intro. Are there any artists that could do it outside of New York, in other cities?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Ice]

Three nights at a stadium.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The only. I immediately think of la.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think Kendrick could do it for sure. I think Drake could do it in Toronto, by the way. But I. I think. But I think Kendrick could do it. And I also think Dr. Drake could.

[Ice]

Andrea Eminem could do it in Detroit for sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Em could do it in Detroit for sure.

[Ice]

In Detroit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's kind of it.

[Ice]

Kanye. Kanye.

[Joe Button]

Kanye could do 30 nights.

[Ice]

I'm going keep it a buck That's a fact.

[Joe Button]

What you say Kanye do 30 nights and that's facts.

[Ice]

He could do a month.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Who else? They love him

[Ice]

and. And they'll pop out for the. Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Outcast for sure.

[Ice]

Outkast could do that in Atlanta.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's true.

[Big Freeze]

Still only a few heads.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, there's only a couple.

[Ice]

I'm just saying. What other names could do it?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We still counting on two hands. I mean, it ain't like. It ain't a lot. A lot. Stadiums. Stadiums are hard to fill.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Big Freeze]

Yo, bro. Having the interest of the master.

[Joe Button]

Movie theaters are hard to. Anywhere with people sitting, they gotta pay for some.

[Ice]

You're right. Putting asses in seats.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And three nights in a row is a. Is a unique challenge.

[Big Freeze]

Is a testament.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz. Not like you're doing the same show three nights. Like, you know, you come. We talking about three basically different shows or two impossible kind of shows with a lot of moving parts and a lot of people. That is hard, man.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Come on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We.

[Joe Button]

We toss in the parks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yo, we toss in the parks. We.

[Parks]

We missed. We missed some music last week. First of all, I. I was. Had a long little road trip to Vermont. Had a good time in Vermont. Ate some mushrooms by the fire. Good times. But I had a long road trip. So I got to listen to all the music that I didn't listen to going right. That said album is very good. And I Up there's. There's some good joints on there. I missed it. Ombre's album also very, very good.

[Ice]

Come on though. Get to it though. They've been in a group chat going crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought I was in the cult again and it worked.

[Parks]

Steve Lace's outlet, also pretty good. It was a little Miguel ish, a little Frank Oceanish, but it. There's some good joints on there. But then I got to that Baby

[Joe Button]

Rose out, which I'm glad you was going crazy in the group chat because I hadn't purchased it. Yeah, I hadn't bought it at all. July is me up. That's what it is.

[Ish]

Why are we still in July?

[Joe Button]

It's like seven weeks in this.

[Ish]

I don't know what's going on.

[Ice]

I looked the album up.

[Ish]

The album came out July 10th.

[Joe Button]

I'm like.

[Flip]

I'm saying, what the. You blaming July? Not July.

[Ish]

July.

[Flip]

This is your life.

[Ish]

It's a lifestyle. Welcome. Yeah, I've been having a blast.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We all are.

[Parks]

Anyway, I got to this Baby Rose album and if you were a music fan.

[Joe Button]

Oh yeah, he went the way the way I was going, yeah, this is.

[Parks]

Is this love Baby Rose and El Min.

[Ish]

Feelings. Did it ever cross your mind?

[Joe Button]

This is so crazy.

[Ice]

Here.

[Joe Button]

This is so hard.

[Ish]

This just sound like R B jazz.

[Joe Button]

If RZA was doing it or if Alchemist was doing it. Her arrangements, the melodies, the pockets that

[Ish]

she on this whole great driving album. Great.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Make you want to just leave the house to get in the car. Yeah, that's what I did.

[Ish]

That's what I did.

[Ice]

I went and took a ride.

[Ish]

I had cabin fever.

[Joe Button]

Parks was in the group chat going crazy.

[Parks]

And I'm talking to Siri, sending these to.

[Ish]

I left them on red because I

[Joe Button]

was too embarrassed to say, oh, I ain't checked this yet. Let me. Let me go see. So I hit my girl like, yo, you want to just take a. Oh, ride.

[Flip]

Oh, you went together?

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Flip]

Nice.

[Joe Button]

I went to take a ride to the house I purchased, see if I

[Parks]

could see the rap talk.

[Joe Button]

Okay, well, I put that album on you. I went and took a picture. The little sold under contract, whatever the say. But this album on a late drive to Alpine. That is absolutely ridiculous.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Beautiful, man.

[Parks]

This Leon Thomas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Leon Thomas was new joint.

[Parks]

I was about to say, is there an album that is allowed to come out today without Leon Thomas?

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, it's not. It's the single. I played it when it was out, but ain't really understand, man. And turn it down a little bit. And I got to shout Baby Rose out because to make an Incredible album

[Joe Button]

in 2026 and Stay True to her elements, like with her voice.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

She's unbelievable. Turn me up, turn me up Turn me up Turn me up Turn me up, Turn me.

[Ish]

Let's go, leon. God damn.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, all right, all right, all right.

[Joe Button]

Let me jump in. Let me jump in. Let me jump in with a little bit. I'm starting in the middle.

[Ish]

I'm starting from church.

[Parks]

This is my favorite. This song is incredible. I wasn't sure if the. The room was going to be on this one.

[Ish]

This one. What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't a miss,

[Ish]

cuz this is

[Joe Button]

when she really showed ass. From Sunday on.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Oh, let her go, let her go,

[Ish]

let her go, let her go, let her go, let her go, let her go. It was made for listening Dancing in my kitchen Start a new beginning yes.

[Joe Button]

Ice, this is a girl maybe find

[Ice]

my way I'm not familiar she does

[Parks]

not look how she sounds.

[Ish]

Cuz she Sunday is my redemption now

[Joe Button]

I'm letting this rock this is incredible.

[Ish]

I'm letting this rock you know, I

[Parks]

mean,

[Ish]

shout out to the Heads out there. Shout out to the blue note. Heads out there. Oh, this fire y. Shut up.

[Parks]

The Instagram.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I mean shout out to the Village Underground. Heads out. Waiting on this Sunday to start over. Shout out to the. That cook breakfast. Man, I ain't going to hold you. This just feel like some fresh toast of pigs with grape jelly.

[Parks]

Supposed to be long T shirt on.

[Ish]

Yeah. Where my party hold up. Oh, here we go.

[Joe Button]

Give it to me.

[Parks]

Background's coming in.

[Ish]

Come on. Yeah, give it to me.

[Parks]

Give me it to.

[Mandy]

To me.

[Joe Button]

This one almost fell in the shower.

[Ish]

I was like, oh, yeah. No, she bugged out. Brand new Baby Rose is wrecking. It's called Sunday. Yes, sir. Yes. You can play this around the white joints. They going to think you eclectic. Come. All right.

[Joe Button]

I'm extra

[Mark Lamont Hill]

on the way.

[Joe Button]

God damn.

[Parks]

Yo, Baby Rose. Thank you.

[Ice]

Wow.

[Joe Button]

Baby Rose.

[Parks]

This album is absolutely incredible. My favorite album of the year by far. Hey. Is down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This one of them.

[Parks]

It's one of them. It's one. She's one of them.

[Joe Button]

She did it.

[Parks]

And she's opening up for Olivia Dean. I'm. I got a. They. You can't get tickets, but I'm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sneaking in. When?

[Parks]

Where I didn't hear this MSG for four days straight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I'll be there.

[Parks]

Yeah, Good luck, cuz. She. Olivia did the ticket master fight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Parks]

And it's almost impossible to get tickets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If I get some. I'll let y' all know.

[Parks]

Yeah, please.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I'll.

[Ish]

So last week when.

[Joe Button]

Or last week when Tory Lanes dropped, I gave it a quick run through because I didn't want to come into work and not have heard what Tory Lanez did. But then I listened to it some more. I'm talking about the. The R B side, the rap side.

[Ice]

I know.

[Joe Button]

That's cool. Have at it. But what he was able to do on that R B project, like if you don't mind his Drake influence, like if you don't mind his being inspired by Drake and some of the sounds of some of the songs. He showed his absolute.

[Flip]

And it's all from jail, correct? Yes.

[Joe Button]

But he on the side of jail with a studio.

[Ish]

He cannot convince me otherwise. CEO or somebody.

[Ice]

He got a.

[Ish]

Somebody's bringing him out. That little. He that stabbing. Yeah, right.

[Joe Button]

You went to right track.

[Ice]

So you can't convince me that's AI.

[Ish]

That ain't no damn AI.

[Ice]

You cannot convince me it's AI. I heard what y' all was saying and it made Sense. No, sorry.

[Big Freeze]

He got pro tools.

[Parks]

He got the proest of tools in that.

[Joe Button]

This is a really, really, really great R B project from Tory Lanez.

[Ish]

This record is called Cody,

[Mandy]

Right?

[Flip]

That's the warden's office.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This.

[Joe Button]

This boy right here. Hold up, man.

[Ish]

This is dancers remorse. Tory lames made you think I was gone but in your phone right now, now on DSPS right now turn up. Then.

[Joe Button]

I like all the songs where these fall in love with the stripper and want to buy her mad clothes and pay her rent. And I don't know why that is relatable.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, for real.

[Ish]

These.

[Joe Button]

Chris Brown so ill. He got a song on his album. I think it's called Moment. I think that song.

[Ice]

So for the moment.

[Joe Button]

For the moment.

[Ish]

That song's so fire.

[Joe Button]

All I do is just play it and vibe. Cause it sounds great.

[Ice]

That's probably the best.

[Ish]

But once he. What.

[Joe Button]

What he's saying in there is, yo,

[Ish]

I waited for the lights to come

[Joe Button]

on in the strip club.

[Ish]

And I waited the whole song.

[Ice]

I waited.

[Joe Button]

This is my advice to Tory Lanez. Cause I do have some advice for you. Here we go. You got in your LMA bed bag. And you let us hear a little voice note. Is this. Is this it? Let me see. Yeah, let me play this real quick so I can help.

[Ice]

Tori broke my heart. My heart is broken.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean?

[Ice]

Like, my trust is broken. There's so much that I tried to

[Big Freeze]

give, so much I tried to offer Tori.

[Joe Button]

But it's like, that might have worked in 01. No, for real. In the 90s, you could call your Liv and be like, yo, I heard you hurt my heart. Yo, the bong we had had in 2026. Niggas is fucking your joint. Tory Lanez. Niggas is fucking your girl.

[Ice]

She listening to that message on a yacht.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ish]

Yo, hey, Tory Lanez. I know you locked up, but out here, Paul, the niggas is niggazin.

[Ice]

No, she let the other hear it.

[Big Freeze]

You hear this nigga?

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

On the yacht, Tory Lanez, the girl that you relying on like commissary. The one that you caring about and all that. She's other niggas out here, dog. It's too long of a bid that you wouldn't did now if it was two, three years maybe she was holding down.

[Ice]

Oh, the girl. The girls are saying it today, though. The second this cuffs are slapped on.

[Joe Button]

They ain't.

[Ice]

They ain't. With that waiting around.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Damn.

[Ice]

Yo, they let know up front. Yo, damn all that. Hold it down. Ride or die. No, they're gone.

[Flip]

It happened to the most gangsterous.

[Joe Button]

Mark did that. All this everybody equal. Look, now, look, now, look.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is the mess I created.

[Joe Button]

Now look how they treating us. Can't even go to jail. Quick little child support warrant.

[Flip]

Back in the day, mama moms and them used to wait, Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, they didn't.

[Big Freeze]

You think they waited?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's. That's about to say y' all dumb if y' all think they was waiting.

[Flip]

Some of them waited.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They didn't tell y' all they was.

[Flip]

They.

[Ice]

No, no, no.

[Flip]

What they did was creepier than that.

[Ice]

They held you down and they was getting held down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, that's what happened.

[Ice]

Now they not even doing that.

[Flip]

I ain't know. I ain't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

As long as you don't know.

[Flip]

You cuz it be creeps like y' all that be going after the. The that girls. Cuz y' all wasn't brave enough to do it while the tough was home. Wait till he get locked up. And y' all this girl behind his back. You suck ass. So look. Look at y'. All religious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In the twenties, I did both. Was I relieved when he got locked up?

[Parks]

Yes, for sure.

[Flip]

It's the type of grimy.

[Ice]

Here.

[Flip]

Put this on his books. Put 200 on his book. You leave it on a dress ass. Right. Put that on his books. No, he's hold us down.

[Big Freeze]

Whatever's gonna make her life less stressful.

[Joe Button]

I don't have nothing else in music. I'm. I'm. I'm done with music. Shout out to Tory Lanez. Baby. Masterpiece. You put out?

[Flip]

Yes, sir.

[Joe Button]

Anything coming out Friday?

[Parks]

I don't know. I don't think so.

[Joe Button]

I don't think so.

[Flip]

We still out of time.

[Joe Button]

I don't even care.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I don't be knowing when it drop.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Midnight. Go check.

[Big Freeze]

All right.

[Joe Button]

I don't care. I'm still on the albums that I'm on.

[Parks]

Facts.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I'm totally cool. Pretty much.

[Ish]

So now we could talk about our

[Joe Button]

friend of the show. Ryan Clark indeed was let go, Laid off, fired. I don't know what the word they use. But terminated from his gig at espn. And ESPN will have more layoff layoffs on the way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That wasn't what breaking news Cam Newton was at the time we sit here. Cam Newton was just let go too.

[Parks]

Really?

[Joe Button]

Shut up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Literally. As we sitting here. Yep.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah. They said widespread layoffs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They said it.

[Joe Button]

That usually any white names?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I suppose that usually means the blacks.

[Ice]

That's what it means.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, Pat McAfee if you care is about to get an extension to make 60 million a year.

[Ice]

They gotta get that money from somewhere.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what 60 million is?

[Joe Button]

Why does Disney have to get that money from somewhere?

[Parks]

Yeah, word.

[Joe Button]

Even though that's what they're doing. But why does Disney have to do that?

[Ice]

Because they'll have a cap on. We paying out of this pool right here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I got all the money. You said if you have an exorbitant amount of money, you shouldn't be held to the same standard.

[Joe Button]

I'm saying that Disney don't need to fire people for no money to put money in other people's pockets. Nobody got fired up here when you got that money.

[Flip]

Yo,

[Ish]

Move it right along Move, move

[Flip]

it right along

[Ish]

any.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So Ryan Clark was fire. And I think first of all, shout out to Ryan Har. I love that brother. And I think he's an incredible.

[Joe Button]

Me too. Probably one of. One of the better dressed people on espn. Not that that matters, but I always love whoever does our Ryan Clark suits tv, period. And he got his own little emblem, the little RC emblem that he we. He bought some style and some flavor and some ump up there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And he's smart, he's insightful, he's thoughtful, he's honest. He knows his I. He's experienced, he's got all the things. He checks all the boxes he does. And it's crazy that they didn't just fire him or lay him off, but they also laid him off in the middle of a show.

[Parks]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[Joe Button]

That's the crazy part.

[Ice]

That's horrible.

[Joe Button]

On a break.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's disrespectful.

[Ice]

That was horrible. That was disgusting.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They didn't even let him finish the show and yet they took his comments, his content, his clips and kept airing them all day on espn.

[Big Freeze]

They said he voluntarily didn't finish from what I heard, but I don't give a fuck if you allowed me to come to work today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Wait, what do you mean he voluntarily.

[Big Freeze]

They said they told him in the middle of one of the shows when he was taping.

[Joe Button]

So then he didn't and he just like involuntarily not finish.

[Ice]

Well, they saying, like, did they give

[Joe Button]

him the option, like he finished the

[Ice]

show after this show, it's over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't hear that.

[Big Freeze]

But either way, it's fucking whatever the case may be. Yo, dawg, if you fire me in the middle of my work day, it's disrespectful.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who fire me doing prize picks? You know what I Mean the same old Marcus keeps. You can stay the friend of the show.

[Ish]

I meant to ask y', all, is

[Joe Button]

that, like, what is firing etiquette?

[Big Freeze]

Like, typically in corporate. A lot of times in corporate, they let you finish your work day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

And then we'll call you to HR about.

[Joe Button]

At the end of your work day about three.

[Big Freeze]

And when you go to hr, when you go this way, a nigga's coming this way. They gonna pack you a cardboard box. They gonna put all your. From your desk and all your personal shit in that box because they don't want you to come back to your community.

[Ish]

I got that.

[Joe Button]

What I'm asking is, is if you were in corporate world, would you prefer a text, a email, a phone call, or come in and have your. Your business partner tell you that face to face or the company tell you face to face?

[Big Freeze]

It depends on my relationship with them. If I'm cool with them, then I would expect my superior to call me. If I'm not cool with them, then I just treat it like we not cool. You could text me, you could email me, you can smoke. Sick of me. I don't give a.

[Ice]

If we not cool. Yeah, I would rather you. But don't fire me if we're not cool. Let me stay home. Yeah, don't let me drive, because that happened to me before. I. I was working about 45 minutes away from the crib. I got to the job, got in, walked in. They was like, oh, they want to see you in the office first.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This was the security job.

[Ice]

No, no, this was an insurance.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Ice]

I know. Marcus, he tried to be.

[Joe Button]

I know you trying to do it, but.

[Ice]

Yeah, it was like, yo, you got. They want you in the office. Got in the office and they was

[Flip]

like, you knew what it was, or you just thought you was. You was getting raised or some shit?

[Ice]

I didn't know what it was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's the.

[Ice]

I didn't know what it was. But I was like, yo, word. Like, I'm saying, y' all could have told me this at home. Cause now I'm mad. Yeah, y' all could have told me this at home. I said, well, let me go get my stuff. No, we got somebody that's gonna get your stuff. They'll meet you at the front door

[Joe Button]

and walk out that way.

[Ice]

You can go back to your computer. Please leave your key card here.

[Flip]

All of that shit.

[Ice]

Yeah, they don't want you taking nothing. They gotta surprise you to do it in tv.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They usually don't give you a chance to have Access to the audience again. Once they let you know. Oh, yeah. Cause you find that's why I was surprised to hear. I'm not sure that they would have let him, during the break, go back on air. Cause if you say to a nigga, especially somebody like Ryan Clark, who's articulate and thoughtful and smart and principled and courageous, if you say to him, look, we letting you go, but you got 10 more minutes on air. I don't know what the fuck you gonna say.

[Ice]

You could spin that. You could spin that. You could go on air and spin that and quit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And it's live.

[Ice]

And now to the public, you quit. Like, yo, this is. This xyz, what's happening. You could spend that in your favor

[Joe Button]

and say, no, you should never say that you quit. Cause now you're not getting your money.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. Which is the other piece of it.

[Ice]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's another piece of this. Right. They still gotta pay him out his contract.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, he's getting paid out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So if they're paying you. So if this is about budget, you could let him ride out the contract.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which is often what happens. Because if you're.

[Ice]

And then they just don't renew it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They just don't renew it. Cause there are jobs where I. Obviously, we don't want to go to work if we gonna get paid anyway. But TV people wanna stay on air. They wanna be seen. Because that's the job. And that's how you get the next job. And that's how you. So it's not like. I mean, a lot of people are told their contract won't be renewed at the end of the season, and they keep going. So this feels like it's bigger than just money.

[Ice]

That's a good point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This feels like there's something about Ryan Clark that they're not fucking with. And what I don't like is that I'm starting to see all that.

[Joe Button]

Something about Michael Smith, something about Jamel Hill.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Something about Kerry Champion. Something about something. There's a few things.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's a few things about it. I'm noticing a pattern here. And it's two things.

[Ice]

Right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's the thing. So when I see.

[Joe Button]

Versus the people that are getting the money, I. E. Pat and Stephen A.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. Exactly.

[Joe Button]

Because that's the end of the list.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the end of the list. Pat McAfee literally makes more than everybody in the NBA except Steph Curry as of this new deal.

[Joe Button]

And I think Pat McAfee's underpaid oh, he's extraordinary.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't taking nothing from him.

[Joe Button]

I think 60 million for him is a deal and a bargain.

[Parks]

In fairness, it's him and his whole shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's not just an infrastructure for five

[Joe Button]

days a week, and it's the premier show over there. It's our sports center block. You got to pay the man.

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't mad at that. But to your point, you could also. I think Ryan Clark was making 2 million there. Y' all could have made that work.

[Big Freeze]

It's a report that said between two and six. And they said Cam was closer to two with the Pat McAfee thing. Pat. Pat McAfee drives inventory. It's almost like he's in sales. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you want sales, yo, the. The sky's the limit to your earnings. Whereas other people that are, like, Just. They don't necessarily push the. The. The. The ad dollars and all that other shit. Yeah, you're not valued nowhere near as high. You know what I'm saying? So, to your Pat McAfee point, that niggas out here five days a week pushing the shit out them numbers for esp. So that nigga's worth way more money than most of the other people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I agree. I don't want Pat McAfee to lose a dollar me. It's just talking about what their resources are and also the kind of people who they're willing to invest in. Because there's the race thing. A whole bunch of black folk getting fired, but some white folk getting fired, too. But it's also the kind of voices that they don't want to have on that network. The kind of voices that they always seem to silence and push out. And that's the thing I don't like, and I don't like the leaky of reasons.

[Joe Button]

That's the part that I don't like. It's not what they did and how they did it, but to add insult to injury, their reasoning was, we feared that, you know, if we didn't tell him while he was on air or while he was here, that it would leak, the news would leak, and he would hear it from somewhere else. And we care so much about him that we didn't want him to hear it from a leak.

[Ice]

That's bullshit.

[Joe Button]

You're Disney, dog.

[Ice]

You're Disney, dog.

[Big Freeze]

No, not just that. It's bullshit. If that's the case, then you called him the night prior. If you're his boss, you call him. This cell phone error. My nigga his supervisor or his direct upline could have called him on the phone and gave him the news. You don't have to have him come into work so that it don't. You could tell him like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is unprecedented. I mean, this is so out of bounds with what happens in media. You know, media jobs don't work this way. They just don't. And you're starting to see insiders say, well, it was the way he talked to my man last year, Trager. Yeah. When he said you didn't play, you didn't play in the NFL.

[Parks]

That's bullshit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's complete bullshit. And what they do is they put it as a speculation, so that becomes the dominant narrative. So people think that's why he got. That ain't why he got fired. It happened a year ago, number one. And number two, I don't know that

[Joe Button]

that's complete bullshit, but I don't think that's all the reason.

[Big Freeze]

That's not a fire offense.

[Joe Button]

You don't know who when you in these courts. Corporate. But you don't know who in the boys club and who ain't right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And he was in the boys club and they were trying to get him a show that and, and so I'm sure that didn't win him any friends in corporate. I'm not saying that, but I have

[Joe Button]

it if you want to hear it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Wide receiver who got one target all night.

[Big Freeze]

And then you got CD Lamb.

[Flip]

But that's the.

[Ish]

When was the strange. That's the target. But I'm saying, I'm saying you could have it both ways. 54 seconds left in the game. On second and 11, it was the one target.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He runs the out up this morning,

[Ish]

had a better day than CD Lane.

[Flip]

But you know what you wake up saying though? AJ Brown's team is 1 0.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course.

[Big Freeze]

The thing is this though, and we

[Ish]

shouldn't do this on tv.

[Big Freeze]

And so I apologize if people think this is rude. That's the non player.

[Ish]

Oh, stop.

[Flip]

Let me tell you why I'm not saying.

[Ish]

I'm not looking at fantasy football, Ryan.

[Flip]

I'm not.

[Ish]

Don't.

[Flip]

Don't belittle me like that.

[Ish]

I could come in and say as 3x players are saying one thing and

[Flip]

give an alternative perspective that maybe Ceedee

[Ish]

Lamb did play well in Mideater.

[Joe Button]

I ain't gonna hold you in commentator land on that ESPN morning desk. That.

[Ish]

That'd be a bit.

[Joe Button]

That'd be a hot button issue anytime it come up non player versus player.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But it's Kind of the third rail. Like you're not supposed to do that.

[Joe Button]

And Ryan knows that because he started with, hey, this is gonna come off the wrong way, but shut the fuck up. You never played the game.

[Ish]

Which I remember this morning.

[Joe Button]

Cause I remember that game. It was such a big game. Ceedee Lamb went off. Yeah, Ceedee Lamb went off. AJ Brown, not so much. So the point that he was arguing

[Ish]

was, hey, Ceedee Lamb went the fuck

[Joe Button]

off in a loss.

[Ish]

But boy, he looked good. I was agreeing.

[Joe Button]

I ain't never played football.

[Ish]

But Ryan Clark. My thing with this whole thing is,

[Joe Button]

boy, thank God for independent black media.

[Parks]

Yeah, he's killing it.

[Ish]

Like, I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he is.

[Ish]

Corporate did what corporate does. Who shocked?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right? Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Who shot? Who's shocked by that?

[Big Freeze]

Certainly some things will shock you.

[Joe Button]

This shouldn't be shocking. This shouldn't be shocking.

[Big Freeze]

He's on a tear, bro. I. I wouldn't have thought that. I would have thought he would have been an asset that they wanted to hold.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Man, if they can't control.

[Joe Button]

Hell no. Hell no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me tell you something. I worked at Fox News two decades ago, and I remember when Glenn Beck was the biggest thing going. I mean, Glenn Beck was beating Bill O'Reilly, he was beating Sean Hannity. I mean, at 5:00, he was cooking everybody. But they couldn't control him. And they got rid. And everybody was shocked. Right. I was surprised too. But then when you realize that their money is so big and their desire to control is so strong, they'll sacrifice their number one earner or their number two earner for the bigger picture. And what'd they do? They got rid of Glenn Beck and they created a show called Da5 that did basically exactly what they wanted them to do and got almost the same ratings. Same thing. Ryan Clarkett is a top tier commentator.

[Ice]

To me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To me, if I'm building a network for sports, he's at the top of my list. But they want Negroes they can control and they want people they can silence and they want people who don't have a backbone. And so unfortunately, he didn't make the list. But I'm just not surprised. I haven't seen this so many times. Like you said, I'm glad he has his own platform.

[Joe Button]

Thank God he has his own. Thank God Cam has his own. Thank God that content creators are out there not relying on the fucking old infrastructure, yo.

[Flip]

Hell yeah.

[Joe Button]

So we don't have to cry over these stories every time we hear.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I got a question.

[Flip]

When do you see someone who is unfirable? I know everyone can be fired, but we talking about bring bring a lot of ratings. No matter what line they cross, the execs will make an excuse and still just keep them because it's easier to keep them than to lose them. When do you see a situation?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'll say this, never a situation. Nobody's unfirable. But there are people who have a lot more rope than everybody else. I'll give you an example.

[Flip]

That's what I mean.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And unfortunately it also supports my point. Bill O'Reilly had to that at Fox News you gotta catch a lot of cases. You know what I'm saying? You gotta get in a lot of trouble before they get rid of your ass. But he, I mean he was the quarterback of Fox News 8 o'. Clock. They played this show at 8 o'.

[Mandy]

Clock.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then they re aired at 11 and at 11 o' clock re air was still doing better than everybody else on cable news.

[Joe Button]

Really?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. And it was a rerun. I mean he was just a beast. He was making 30, 40 million, 50 million a year. Back when people weren't making $10 million a year.

[Joe Button]

You can imagine how loose that rope was. Was right.

[Flip]

You talking about me, you ass. You compare me to be.

[Joe Button]

No, I'm just asking what more can say.

[Flip]

You can't relate to that.

[Joe Button]

I can't relate to it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. I'm just listening on an unrelated note. Yeah. Bill had a lot of cases.

[Ish]

Hey, I put you in a lot of.

[Flip]

Watch your mouth. I put you in a lot of. Boy, it's okay. You love me. You love me. My.

[Joe Button]

I skipped a good joke when is talking too cuz I see Mark try. Look at me. You

[Mark Lamont Hill]

just try to play point man.

[Joe Button]

Yo Ryan, I'm anxious to see what he does next.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, me too.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Parks]

I mean the pivot's an amazing show.

[Joe Button]

So yeah, Brian Clark will be absolutely.

[Parks]

Yeah. He'll probably get another network job FS1

[Mark Lamont Hill]

or wherever if he wants one.

[Parks]

If he wants one.

[Joe Button]

I'd love to see what the blacks that worked at ESPN group chat looks like right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you know that I wish, I wish I was still in the black people media privately.

[Joe Button]

Cause J Will is my man. Yo, I hope that, that I hope nothing happens to Jay Will cuz he's the only one I see that actually goes crazy up there that has not started his independent journey on the side to kind of run concurrent with. He's a dookie though. They ain't going to fire dookie.

[Ice]

No, he's said some things that's pro them.

[Joe Button]

I like J. Will a lot. Me too. Me too.

[Ish]

Ryan Clark, we love you. We support you. You're a friend of the show.

[Joe Button]

You know how I feel about you. I've done your podcast already. Can't hold you down, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all know Bart? Bart Scott?

[Parks]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, what about him?

[Parks]

Yeah, he got as well.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I just seen Bart Scott in Haven. Me too. Bar Scott. Yeah. Now, he'd be over here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do want to say, you got

[Joe Button]

to pay attention to them. That when they come and this don't. This applies to Bar Scott. But I'm not talking about Bar Scott because he's Bar Scott. I always show love when I see him, but he one of them niggas that he's still in really good shape long after his playing career. You gotta watch them dudes.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Ish]

Why you still in such good shape?

[Joe Button]

My G. Nigga came in Haven fucking the size of the doorway. Big as hell. Anyway, I'm glazing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to Stephen A. Smith for tweeting support for Ryan Clark. Cause a lot of times that doesn't happen when you get fired from a spot. The people that still work there don't say. And oftentimes those influential and powerful people really don't say shit. But Stephen A. Actually tweeted and said, I understand layoffs. I understand business is business, but like Ryan Clark, this is fucked up. He didn't say those exact words. But that was sent to you.

[Joe Button]

I'm gonna stop this shit, man. What do you think Stephen A. Is gonna say on this show? Cause I saw you retweet it, and that's a good tweet that he sent out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying. I didn't think he was saying something.

[Joe Button]

What is he about to say? Of impact?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just happy he did that, even. Honestly, maybe my bar is in hell. Maybe my bar is just super low. But I just remember, even when I. I got fired from cnn, nobody did it. I got all the private text. Oh, on text shit was jumping mad support. Then it was like, can y' all say something? Eh, let's not do that.

[Ice]

I wanna be next.

[Big Freeze]

I'm saying something to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. Cause Angela Robb was like, oh, we going in the office. We about to go. We about to have a sit. No, Angela was about it. I mean, she was like, we about to go in. In my man's. I can't think of his name right now. The head of cnn, we gonna go in his office right now. All the haters and have a sit in. We're gonna talk. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then some other people, I don't want to say Van Jones's name and others because I don't want to, you know, implicate them. But they was like, no, let's not do that. Let's not make the bosses mad.

[Ice]

You know, let's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's talk about it off air. And so that's the more common response, you know what I'm saying? So to see somebody even publicly say it, I think is a shot. I appreciate that. Again, my bar is low, maybe, but I thought it was dope.

[Joe Button]

No, you made a good point. You made a good point. Even if that's the extent of what he does, it's nice that he did it.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I ain't gonna play with Steve like that. Steve. It's just tricky for me. Steve always reps for some of the black people at espn, but is that like oxymoron? Rep for the black people at espn?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I get it.

[Joe Button]

Cause what does that look like? And what does that Shannon Sharpe fucking. There's a list of black people. I'm not going through the list again. Anyway, love you, Ryan Clark. Word, Word. Anybody can fucking get fired from somewhere. The fans. You put them on. Account

[Mark Lamont Hill]

we got room.

[Ish]

All right, so let's fact.

[Joe Button]

What is wrong with this man?

[Ish]

So.

[Joe Button]

So listen, in my fast food segment

[Ish]

of this show, I'll be brief.

[Joe Button]

I'll be brief. I just wanted to highlight two things that I saw going on or that I see going on in the fast food. Well, one thing I see going on in the fast food world, which is my girl is being very particular about the lettuce that I order. Now when I order lettuce, are you still eating lettuce?

[Ish]

And she can.

[Joe Button]

Yes, I'm eating lettuce.

[Parks]

That Taco Bell lettuce. I'm a man. Let's give you the diarrhea runs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that man well.

[Ish]

And that's what I'm here to talk about. I was watching the news. They said all of the Taco Bell letters. Letters has E. Cola. All of the letters got E. Cola. The bulk of it came from Taco Bell.

[Joe Button]

The news said. But have no fear, because even though that happened the other day, Taco Bell

[Ish]

has removed all of the E. Coli letters.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Joe Button]

From all Taco Bell.

[Ish]

And it's important to say, because Taco

[Joe Button]

Bell is absolutely killing in the fast food world.

[Ish]

I love some Taco Bell. They're crushing.

[Joe Button]

They're crushing more than I imagine.

[Flip]

You still Eat Taco Bell.

[Joe Button]

I don't eat Taco Bell. Hell, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, you eat that?

[Flip]

Yes, I do, too.

[Ice]

I eat some. I'm not eating Taco Bell, though.

[Joe Button]

Chick fil a is creme de la creme in the. In the fast food world. They're killing everybody. Everybody's dead. What am I saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, back to Taco Bell.

[Ish]

So Taco Bell says they got rid of all the E. Coli letters. And I only wanted to bring it up to tell y' all that Taco

[Joe Button]

Bell is at absolutely lying to y',

[Ish]

all, and there's no way they got

[Joe Button]

rid of all of the E. Coli letters.

[Ish]

So go and buy that at your own risk. I'm sure they will get rid of

[Joe Button]

it eventually, but they didn't do it yet.

[Ice]

It's much bigger than Taco Bell, though.

[Parks]

And not for nothing, Taco Bell will give you the runs anyway.

[Ice]

It's a company that provides a lot of lettuce called Telepharms. And they're the ones. This shit is called Cyclospora or some shit. That's the shit that's making everybody get the explosive diarrhea. Like, explosive. That's literally. It's explosive diarrhea.

[Joe Button]

Sound like a regular Saturday for me.

[Ice]

It fucked me up because I remember I walked in the. I was in Acme, and the whole produce, they cleaned the whole off. I thought the store was closing. I know you guys said Acme was closing. I'm like, oh, shit, this one too. But they was like, nah, we getting rid of all the produce. We don't know if some. Some type of cross contamination. They cleared that whole shit out. But, yeah, it's not just Taco Bell. It's much bigger.

[Joe Button]

It is. And then they.

[Ice]

Then that company, Taylor Farms, came. Came out and said some like, hey, we cleaned up all our lettuce, and then some tested positive, like a day or so later. That was a false test. We're clear. I'm telling you.

[Flip]

We clear.

[Parks]

We put some water on it.

[Ice]

That's why I'm all set. I'm just not with no lettuce right now. Yeah, I don't need.

[Ish]

Yo. Give Taco Bell a couple of weeks

[Joe Button]

and let them go mop. Let them clean up the establishment. Before you go rushing back in there. They. That's number one. Number two in a happier story, I just wanted to shout out McDonald's VIP. I wanted to shout out McDonald's Premium. On the way back from my little Alpine trip, my baby said, hey, do me a favor. Stop at McDonald's let me pick up some French fries. I said, hey, baby, that's a good idea. I pull up, I wasn't just gonna get French fries. Order double quarter pound of me order, man.

[Parks]

Shit.

[Joe Button]

And she ordered some shit. And we. It put pull up. It was a late night. It was like 11:30. All we pull up, we was getting the food, we paid. And we had the honor, the privilege of them looking at us and saying, hey, do me a favor. Pull your car right there to the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

side,

[Flip]

you stupid ass. They always do that, you ass.

[Ish]

Pull the number one or two and

[Flip]

we come out and bring it to you.

[Parks]

Hey, thought you was a Sonic.

[Joe Button]

Let me tell you something, Skates.

[Parks]

Aw.

[Joe Button]

When the McDonald's worker.

[Flip]

Yo, shut.

[Joe Button]

I slap you tell you to pull your car right there to the side.

[Ice]

Get comfy. That's what it means.

[Joe Button]

Hey, get comfy.

[Ice]

You going to be there.

[Joe Button]

That about to be the best, hottest

[Ish]

French fries that you ever had. The burger going to be fresh off of a frying pan, yo, you know.

[Ice]

You kidding me?

[Joe Button]

Request Chris. What?

[Big Freeze]

Fresh, fresh shit.

[Ice]

You can just say cook the order. Anytime you order anything, they love that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They treat your fries real special.

[Ice]

You say, cook the order.

[Joe Button]

I did not know that. I didn't know that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes. Ask a MC. I used to work at McDonald's. And I'm telling you, when they told us somebody asked for a special batch,

[Ice]

you got a special batch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They got a special batch.

[Ish]

Mom, when you worked at McDonald's in

[Parks]

the 70s, burgers was still 25 cents.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I worked at McDonald's in the 90s, man. City Line, City Line Avenue. I worked at McDonald's and Little Caesars.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, I worked at McDonald's too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it was a good job.

[Joe Button]

How did you explain that to your mom, cuz? Like, it wasn't no McDonald's like that place.

[Ish]

That was like telling her, you want

[Mark Lamont Hill]

to be a rapper.

[Flip]

Stop it, yo.

[Ish]

What? No McDonald's?

[Flip]

1908, the diamonds, man. And she was upset.

[Ish]

Why you better not go to. You better make something for yourself, boy.

[Flip]

I'm talking shit. And he did, he did, he did. And she went to McDonald's. What year he worked at McDowell's?

[Parks]

Nigga, did you work in the kitchen or the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was movie.

[Big Freeze]

My question, 91, 92.

[Joe Button]

Kitchen original.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where'd you work? What part of the. What part of the store or maintenance?

[Big Freeze]

The whole store.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The whole. Okay.

[Flip]

You worked at the whole store, did all that shit.

[Mandy]

Let's go.

[Flip]

Give me pal, please.

[Ice]

Freeze.

[Ish]

Give me pal. Ask Freeze,

[Flip]

please.

[Parks]

Is what was your favorite? What you Worked in maintenance. You worked at the. The register and you worked in the kitchen, which was the one that was lit or the drive thru?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The drive thru was the one.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

I used to love the drive through was same.

[Joe Button]

If it's up to me. They wouldn't ask you anything. Like, just so we clear, like. But they somehow do it.

[Ice]

You know what? You know what?

[Ish]

I did everything.

[Joe Button]

No, you didn't. No, you did not. They're not gonna let you mop and

[Ish]

flip a burger, yo.

[Ice]

You mop burgers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

That's not true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They didn't let me.

[Ish]

I don't believe you're just lying. Trying to fit in again.

[Joe Button]

When I was a checker.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, everybody. Yeah. No, when you work at McDonald's, for the most part, they let you.

[Ice]

You do everything.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You do everything. You ain't special. I mean, I. I didn't do the grill a lot, cuz I.

[Ice]

You have to work your way up. Or was it like one day you this, one day you that you.

[Big Freeze]

It depend on where they.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It depend. A lot of time they start you on the grill and then like the register is like, what year was it?

[Joe Button]

Did y' all work there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I worked there. 93.

[Big Freeze]

I worked there in 91 and 92.

[Flip]

You was there for two years.

[Big Freeze]

I was there for a while.

[Flip]

Oo, manager. You became a manager?

[Big Freeze]

I was 15 years old.

[Flip]

Oh, I thought you was 40.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Team leader

[Parks]

fire. I know you got questions. I see him,

[Joe Button]

I'm done.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't. Joe, you ever work fast food?

[Joe Button]

No, I had talent.

[Ish]

What the are you.

[Joe Button]

What was your talent?

[Ish]

You know how many rappers I was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know rappers have more than one hit. Work the fast food.

[Ish]

No, I don't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A lot.

[Ish]

No, I don't. To get one hit, you know what you need?

[Joe Button]

Talent. The.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, good times. But yeah, the special batch of fries, playing dirty games.

[Flip]

I want no parts.

[Ish]

Like, do something with yourself.

[Joe Button]

Go to McDonald's.

[Flip]

Yeah, I never had no job.

[Joe Button]

Shut up, lady.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You ain't.

[Flip]

You ain't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You was in the streets early.

[Flip]

I just didn't work.

[Parks]

I worked at real restaurants.

[Flip]

I work, I worked, I worked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I never did that.

[Flip]

I worked for a day at KB Toys and got fired the same day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stealing, arguing?

[Flip]

No, no, Just being disrespectful. And Roosevelt Fields and that's it. Then I tried to get another job at this clean up shit somewhere in Queens.

[Ice]

Was rude to the lady.

[Flip]

I said, hold on, hold on, let me. I forgot what I said. She said, don't talk to me like that. I said, man, get the out of here, had my wife pick me up, and I was done.

[Joe Button]

Can I play something real quick?

[Parks]

For sure.

[Joe Button]

After this, we gonna talk about Mandy.

[Parks]

How old were you?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Flip]

When I. Oh, I forgot.

[Parks]

You got married real young.

[Flip]

I have a w. The. The second.

[Joe Button]

We got to remember that. Every part.

[Flip]

No, hold on. Because I. I was. I became broke at one point. I was going through my own little phase, so I tried to get a job my way. I had kids at the time. I tried to go clean up and then.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's the joke?

[Flip]

Put me on that. Joker know I can respond.

[Ice]

No, there's no joke.

[Flip]

Ass.

[Joe Button]

There's no joke is all.

[Flip]

You get ran by your women. Not all get ran by. You're not me. Come pick me up from this ass job to clean the floor. I can never talk to me.

[Joe Button]

You get ran by a woman, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, you really do.

[Joe Button]

We want to see Selena Powell head by your. I know it's one thing we won't

[Flip]

see in the sake of content. In the sake of content. You will.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You see what somebody talk about.

[Flip]

Nigga, that's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I run this show right now. Post it right now.

[Flip]

Post it right now. Big Liquor don't call it. Cause she not with none of that. It's y' all that's causing the danger in my. In my home.

[Joe Button]

I slap y' all danger.

[Parks]

I'm sorry that we do that for.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sorry.

[Flip]

Thank you. It's okay. It's okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know you've been talking about it a lot more, though. I like that you mentioned your relationship more. Talking about your lady more.

[Flip]

Well, because. Yeah, Ass. No ass come up to this podcast.

[Ish]

Hey, yo, Flip Milfy.

[Flip]

How does she take you do mad stupid.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know what you talking about.

[Joe Button]

It sat him down the other day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I watched that. Oh, you did not sit me down. He sat you.

[Flip]

The fuck.

[Parks]

He gave me some OG advice.

[Joe Button]

He definitely sat you down.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He sat you the fuck down.

[Flip]

Oh, did you. Did you see the consensus?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said, buy an outfit.

[Flip]

All that was all that was funny. All that was funny.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Flip]

But did you see what your. Did you see what your. He got a hype his man. Because he checked him so he got to suck up to him. Did you see the consensus of what your audience said? Did you see what they said? Your flip should have been that they was cursing ish out and did flip entertain it. No, I don't use my man as no peace, nigga. That's my man for real. N. I don't use my man as no content piece, you bitch ass nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a nice little reverse you did there, Clyde Drexler.

[Flip]

They laugh at each other. Yeah, I know. Be cool. Don't be cool in front of me. I'm your man.

[Joe Button]

So the stay low give me is

[Big Freeze]

your car so clean, cuz of Milie.

[Ice]

But I let you ride. See what I'm saying?

[Flip]

I let you go.

[Big Freeze]

But I'm.

[Ish]

Dirty.

[Big Freeze]

I don't want no problem.

[Flip]

You see what he just said? But it's cool. You going to let him say that?

[Joe Button]

I didn't hear what he said.

[Flip]

Oh, now, cuz, he finally spoke, right? He finally spoke.

[Ish]

Oh, help me.

[Flip]

Yeah, use me as a ploy to speak to get paid. And what you saying now?

[Big Freeze]

Ain't that what you do to me every week?

[Mandy]

Never.

[Flip]

Never.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Flip]

Never to get a best in the business. You hear me? Do I go against all you right now for death Flip?

[Ice]

Sit up on the couch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, that give me every time. So in.

[Joe Button]

In my stay low and keep firing award that I'm giving out, it is going to go to none other than Big Tigger. I was getting a haircut this morning. I saw Big Tigger's face pop up on my timeline. I was like, oh, that is brave to pop out in the midst of such controversy while you're going through this with old girl. But you know what? Finally he's gonna speak out and tell us what he thinks. Tell us where the missing kid is.

[Big Freeze]

And.

[Joe Button]

And I had. And I have the clip. And I gotta say, this nigga's ability to just pop up during absolute turmoil and do an ad, it's so top tier. I'm playing the ad like, check this out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, what's happening?

[Ish]

It's your man Big ticket to a big, Big things. No.

[Flip]

What the.

[Ish]

What the is this talk? What? You know, we love Big Ticket.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my man.

[Ish]

I play it again.

[Joe Button]

Come on, let me back.

[Ish]

He out there doing his. Hey, what's going on, y'? All? No. Where is that girl? Where's the daughter at?

[Big Freeze]

He wouldn't know what the daughter that ain't. I'm my way back into the.

[Ish]

Tell us how you got the phone.

[Flip]

What phone did he get?

[Ish]

Don't pop up.

[Joe Button]

That's a crime. Take it from me.

[Ish]

You can't just pop up with art.

[Flip]

Hey, what's happening?

[Ish]

It's your man Big Ticket doing big things. And take it from me, life doesn't

[Ice]

always give you a warning before things change.

[Ish]

See, I thought you about to get in bed.

[Flip]

Having someone to call can make all in the world.

[Ice]

Do yourself a favor, save this number.

[Ish]

1-800-Chocolate.

[Flip]

1-800-878-Numbers you actually hope you never have. You'll be happy that you have it

[Ish]

when you need it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At the heart of everything they do is all about people.

[Flip]

And that's. Yo, is this crazy 1-800-truck-reck lives by. And the best way for you 1-800-truck directly.

[Ish]

Someone that they.

[Flip]

Oh, here's one of their clients driving on the expressway.

[Ish]

Shut your ass up. Ass.

[Big Freeze]

My life is a truck wreck.

[Parks]

That's a pro right there.

[Ish]

Oh, my God. Big ticket.

[Joe Button]

We love you, but.

[Ish]

Wow. What the hell was that? I ain't going to hold you. Okay, so now we tossing it to ish.

[Joe Button]

Let's hear what our. Let's hear what our girl Mandy had to say about marriage.

[Flip]

Little Mandy, protect.

[Mandy]

I agree. Everything that you have, if you're a woman that is focus on making more, having your own career, bringing your own money. Absolutely. I think. Okay, so this is gonna be my hot take. And no shade to either.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We're only three minutes.

[Mandy]

I know. I think marriage is for broke. Oh. And so I think a woman who wants to be married is leaning more into the patriarchy and wants to be essentially.

[Joe Button]

Oh, sorry.

[Mandy]

Possibly taken care of, have their man as the leader. All the ideals for me of what marriage looks like is that so. I just saw my first friends recently this weekend, she's like, did you want to be married? And I literally said, yeah, when I was poor. As a woman who can now, like, provide for herself also doesn't want motherhood and also sees a lot of these celebrity women now having to continue working because they have to pay alimony. I mean, we have even podcasters now paying alimony. Shout out to Rachel Lindsay. Like, there's all these people that once you make a certain amount of money, if. If your man doesn't, you have to pay them out. And I just don't want to do that.

[Flip]

That's a taste.

[Mandy]

I don't want to be that.

[Parks]

That you also serve and you say crazy. She did that sitting next to wheezy. Shout out to her. Just recently got engaged. I think she had some points in there, but I think she worded it in a hot takeaway.

[Big Freeze]

I think it's starting to really be overwhelming sentiment if people want to admit it or not. I think a lot of people that are getting up the ladder financially are not looking at marriage in the same way anymore. And I hear every day from men, women that are starting to make more bread, they Be like, yo, it's not needed for me. I don't even see the advantage in being married. I know Mandy personally. Mandy stands on the hill of I don't really want children. So if you don't want children, then you take away the whole family dynamic from marriage. You see what I'm saying?

[Parks]

That's entirely true.

[Big Freeze]

If it's not in your plans to

[Parks]

have children, there's still a family evolved.

[Big Freeze]

I said it takes away from the family dynamic because the kids make up a part of that dynamic.

[Parks]

And I disagree.

[Big Freeze]

So you could literally be dating somebody for 10, 20 years. Years. And be married to them for 10 or 20 years.

[Joe Button]

Then that's your family.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

And it could be your family if you're dating or married.

[Flip]

Like, it.

[Big Freeze]

It ain't no real big difference.

[Ice]

So the marriage piece don't. Don't change.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That would be the same thing.

[Ice]

But same go with kids.

[Big Freeze]

Then I think that. I think the kids add to the family dynamic.

[Ice]

You could have. You could be with someone, have kids, y', all.

[Joe Button]

And.

[Ice]

And still be a family.

[Big Freeze]

I know. So I'm. I'm. Again, bro. I'm not.

[Ice]

We did this live.

[Big Freeze]

I'm talking about this particular person. She don't want any kids. She is in her car. She's saying, I don't want kids at all. And so for her, again, she could date the same person or date multiple people without being boggled down by marriage and all of the restrictions that marriage presents. Cause marriage does present some restrictions for you. I can't do whatever I want to do if I'm married without consulting with my significant, significant other.

[Ice]

What do you mean? Whatever you want?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is that different?

[Ice]

Like what I'm saying? What. What's the difference between that? Studies.

[Flip]

You study. You believe in studies. And. And like, you, you. What I'm saying is that there is a study that married men are more successful.

[Big Freeze]

That makes sense.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

Because some of those restrictions, the distractions that you have when you're sitting single. Some of those distractions aren't present when you're in a relationship. That is people.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

Like, again, you can't just. Well, you're exception. Most married people, they just can't run around and do whatever they want to do.

[Ice]

Of course.

[Flip]

Sorry. Sorry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please, please.

[Mandy]

You.

[Big Freeze]

Me, like, I mean, I'm not married,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

but that's my point. Like, it seems like you got those same restrictions without marriage.

[Ice]

That's what I was trying to get.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the same commitment, the same family dynamic that you do.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, that's true.

[Ice]

What it sound like Is just. People know that today a lot of marriages in a divorce, and you gotta pay and you gotta pay. So if you up, I mean, yeah, there's prenups and all of that, but again, just the whole. The process, people just looking at it as a lot of marriages don't stand the test of time today. And if I'm up, it's gonna cost me too much to get out of this. So I'd rather not do it.

[Flip]

You know what?

[Ice]

That's what it sound like she's saying.

[Flip]

I'm not shooting at Mandy. Your man.

[Big Freeze]

A lot of wealthy men are.

[Ice]

Yeah, People. Just people that aren't saying it, like,

[Big Freeze]

yo, it's just not cost effective.

[Flip]

I'm not shooting at Mandy. No, let's remove her. I don't like when people come on podcasts or speak about marriages because they had a lot of failed relationships. Not Mandy. Let me move. But somebody else said that similar.

[Joe Button]

No. And Mandy.

[Flip]

Okay. Yeah. But I don't want to go back and forth with her to make it say that I'm attacking her. The shit ain't work. You don't go. If you go from wanting to be man married and don't get married, or it doesn't work out and you keep trying and trying and trying again. Sometimes we have to look internally. I'm not saying anything but just anybody in general now. You know what I mean? And when they come and say, oh, marriage for broke people and shit, like, there's some rich people getting married every day.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, there's some rich women that

[Flip]

look for marriages every fucking day. There's some CEO women, Fortune 500 companies that wish that they were married in that moment that say how lonely they are by just being this. And they can't find the man to match them. And they want to be married. So it's not for broke women.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah. I mean. All right, so I would say two things or a couple things. One, historically, marriage, I mean, has been about men taking care of women. It has been patriarchal. You literally go from your dad to your husband and they literally hand you

[Ice]

over walking down the aisle.

[Flip]

That's true.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I mean?

[Big Freeze]

Paying your father for you, literally a dowry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right. So that is historically what it's rooted in.

[Ice]

And I don't to want.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I wanna ignore that. That is very true. Got it.

[Flip]

I heard she said that. Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But I also don't wanna reduce marriage to just broke women trying to get on or broke women who need it. I respect her desire not to be married. And I know a Lot of people who say, if I don't want kids. I know a lot of married men will say that. They say, if I didn't have not for my kids, I could have done without marriage. And if not for. And if I were to ever. If something were to happen to my wife, I probably wouldn't remarry. I'd be in a long term relationship, but I wouldn't remarry. I hear people say that all the time. And I respect.

[Flip]

I agree with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But for me, I think we have to also separate marriage as a bond and as an institution and marriage as a legal thing with the state. So, like, when you make a commitment to be with somebody forever as your life partner, like Joe, you just celebrated your seventh. And congratulations. I meant to tell you at the top of the show, congratulations.

[Joe Button]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Martin, on your seventh anniversary.

[Flip]

Congratulations, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you got married tomorrow, that wouldn't make your love any more or less deep, intense. It wouldn't make your relationship any more, more or less legitimate, you know, so to that extent, like, I don't think you're on year one if you get married tomorrow, you get what I'm saying? Like, the relationship is what it is. And I feel the same way about my wife. So I don't wanna fetishize marriage and make a thing out of marriage. But I do think when you make a commitment, a life commitment to somebody, it's more than just financial protection. It's more than just taking care of it. It's saying, me and this person are gonna spend our lives together and we're gonna affirm that relationship in the presence of our community. We want the world to know that. And what my wife has said to me, which I hadn't thought about, is she says when she wears that ring, it's not about she don't care about the ring per se, I mean, or marriage per se, as a contract. But she said it's also a way of saying, somebody in this world cares about me. Someone in this world is looking out for me. And as a woman in the world, sometimes you gotta think about that too. There's somebody other than me and my parents who.

[Joe Button]

That's a good point.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, and that's something I hadn't thought about before.

[Ice]

I got a homegirl who used to travel solo. Solo trips, yeah. And she would wear a ring, she was so single. And I'm like, yo, why would you do that? She was like, yo, because at least over there, they'll think somebody might.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm gonna have a husband who's not

[Ice]

here with me in the room. Like, just that you think there's somebody that cares, like you said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, And I'm just saying these are all factors, I think, that are bigger than just money is all I'm saying. And I think there's a lot of rich women who want that relationship or people who can take. My wife could take care of herself financially. She's better now, but, like, she was doing just fine without me.

[Flip]

Mine too. Nas was taking care of me at one point, like Miles three. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I don't know. I just think it's complicated. But I hear what she's saying.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah. I think everybody has their own individual views.

[Flip]

She can.

[Big Freeze]

And to Mark's point too, though, like, like I said, like, I think that the. The marriage, I mean, the family dynamic can be had with or without the. The ring or the church or the justice of the peace. It's the same thing. If you on a 15 year relationship with somebody, that commitment that y' all quote, unquote, have, it's the same commitment. You get what I'm saying? So I see it just from everybody's perspective. I think everybody has a right to, you know, stand on what is.

[Joe Button]

How is it the same commitment if

[Big Freeze]

I sit in a car with you and say, yo, I'm committed to this relationship. These are our ground rules. These are our.

[Joe Button]

Huh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which.

[Big Freeze]

These are our ground rules. Right.

[Ice]

Whatever our.

[Big Freeze]

We our outline where we want to be in this relationship. The do's, the don'ts, the yes, the no's, whatever the case may be, there's no difference when we walk to the justice of the peace and say, yo, I do in front of this.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's not true.

[Parks]

Yeah, I disagree.

[Joe Button]

That's not true at all. What happens when you die?

[Big Freeze]

Let me finish my sentence, please. Because now it's legality and contracts in it. We talking about the commitment that you're making to a person, not what happens when you die. Because what happens when you die. Now that's all legality and paperwork. I'm talking about the commitment that you set set forth with the person. Whether I tell you this in closed doors, in confidence, or if I say this in front of some stranger, man, that gives us a piece of paper

[Ice]

and what answer your point, the legality

[Joe Button]

and the paperwork is I'm looking at as part of the commitment.

[Ice]

But you can do that without being married to somebody too. So you can have a will and say, if something happens to me, XYZ goes to this person without going to the justice of the Peace. Or having a marriage certificate, you can still cover those things.

[Parks]

You can also rent a house from somebody for eternity and say, say I'm never leaving. And I think it's a little different if you own the house and have a little more stake in the game.

[Ice]

I see.

[Big Freeze]

I think the house can be owned or rented in both scenarios. Like for example, I could put myself out, dog, when my will is done, my girl we not married, but my girl will get every single thing that I have and it'll be allocated according to the will when you are married. Now the state assigns how your assets are broken up if you don't have a will. So that's the only difference. Now the state says, yo, your shit goes here, here, here and here. Based on the laws of the state of New Jersey or New York, wherever you reside. This is what happens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The marriage don't dictate that.

[Big Freeze]

You and the lady didn't dictate that. The state dictates that.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Big Freeze]

So that has nothing to do with a commitment that's being made by the two individuals. I agree.

[Parks]

That's one.

[Joe Button]

I couldn't disagree more with all this. If you on your deathbed, your girlfriend is not the one responsible for making decisions for. You can.

[Ice]

No, no, it can. You can. But you can assign that too though. Yes, that's what I'm saying. You could sit there if you, if you're getting sick enough, you can assign power of attorney to somebody.

[Joe Button]

Check this out. Ice and ish. This is what I'm saying. If you are, if you are properly planned to the point way past death, you could set up everything.

[Big Freeze]

Correct. Let me give you an example.

[Joe Button]

So that's not what I'm saying here.

[Ice]

Most people are not of course cool, but somebody.

[Joe Button]

So you and your long term girlfriend, when you get sick, if you don't have all this premeditated shit going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Right.

[Joe Button]

She will have no rights while you're on your deathbed. To that you say what?

[Ice]

That's correct. You are correct with that. Now also to the.

[Joe Button]

I'm also applying that to the will situation.

[Ice]

Wait, give me some. Second. Also to the non planned person that goes and gets married, what happens when they, when they break out? When they break up. Exactly. To the person that did not. The non planning goes both on both sides. Married to the non. To the non planned person that gets married and then they get a divorce. What happens?

[Big Freeze]

Not a divorce. Let's say they just break. Let's say they, let's just say they separate. So we've seen people that I don't want to use nobody because words have power.

[Ice]

Of course.

[Big Freeze]

Two people are married, they split up. They've been split up for six, seven, eight years.

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Big Freeze]

That man now has a girlfriend or kids or whatever the case may be. That person. And this is a true story. And this happens a lot. The, the, the.

[Ice]

The.

[Big Freeze]

The ex wife, they still linked. She controls every single thing in this man's life. Fam.

[Ice]

I told y' all when my uncle passed, rest in peace, who was still married.

[Big Freeze]

His wife could have taken everything.

[Ice]

His wife, luckily, she was just a good person. Person. And they were separated for at least. But that just goes back seven years.

[Parks]

Planning thing.

[Ice]

That's. So that's my point. The planning on both sides, the marriage don't have nothing to do with that. Whether you're married or not, you still got a plan. If you don't plan, you're. You're subject to the state no matter what.

[Parks]

Okay, Fair.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ice]

So. So why. I don't see how that marriage change. The commitment is what. Is what we're saying.

[Big Freeze]

We started with commitment.

[Ice]

Marriage has nothing to do post death.

[Big Freeze]

What happens. And again, those things that happen.

[Parks]

That's one specific.

[Big Freeze]

Addressing what he said. Those things that happen post death aren't dictated by the two people. They're dictated by.

[Ice]

Unless there's a will. That's the only way that. That it's dictated by the person. Whether you're married or unmarried. This. If you're married, the state dictates it. The person don't.

[Joe Button]

Do y' all believe in marriage?

[Ice]

Yeah, yeah. In an unconventional way.

[Big Freeze]

I believe in a conventional way. I just think it's a personal decision. I don't think that somebody is right or wrong if they get married or not. I think that's for those two individuals to decide.

[Joe Button]

I couldn't. I couldn't agree more. But then there's a better way to state why you're against being married than to offend the people that are married and to say, hey, this is all broke people. That's.

[Ice]

I agree with that. I agree. But like I said, what I think she was trying to say was to speak to. Back to my original point on that. I think she was trying to speak to the divorce rate. So, yes, if you're up and you get married, it's going to cost you if y' all don't work out.

[Parks]

But if you're looking at marriage as divorce already, you're probably in a bad position.

[Ice]

Fam. I buy a car and put insurance on it. I don't plan to have accident.

[Parks]

And also that it's ignoring a lot of the financial benefits of being marriage. Tax benefits, insurance, there's a bunch of

[Ice]

it might cost a living. But again, it might not be ignorant. Ignoring it could weigh that on one side. And also, keeping in mind, what happens if this don't work? If you go into anything saying what happens, you know, you sign a business contract. There's. There's in there in case this don't work out.

[Joe Button]

That's true.

[Big Freeze]

Everything you don't mean you going in

[Ice]

life, you should be also preparing for what happens if it don't work out.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Ice]

So the same thing should apply to marriage. So to the person that don't want to get married because they say, yo, I'm up if this don't work out, this could cost me a lot of money. Money just for not working out when I could just be a Oprah insteadman. I could just be with somebody, not have to worry about that.

[Joe Button]

See, that part is a crock of why. And I prefer that the people that just ain't with marriage just come out and say, y, I'm not with marriage. And you don't give no reason because what if. What if you fall in love or want to marry somebody where you're the person that has less money?

[Ice]

Well, that's why she's saying again, a lot of people there are speaking from the I have less the money. So now I'm thinking about what happens. I'm trying to protect her view might change.

[Big Freeze]

Her view might be different if she might be different.

[Ice]

Yeah. Which is why she then says again her wording. I think just it was a little offensive by saying for broke chicks.

[Joe Button]

I agree.

[Ice]

Or poor chick. I forgot which one. She said bro, broke. But that is kind of what she's speaking to.

[Joe Button]

I just think we hear from too many chicks that ain't been marriable marriageable talking about their views on marriage. Mandy do a podcast or did a podcast called Horrible Decision. She go out there, she tell you yeah, horrible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not horrible spelled with a wh.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, wh. You know what I'm saying? She'll tell you about her sex capacity. Tell you about.

[Ice]

She'll tell you about her life.

[Joe Button]

It's kind of all yeah out there.

[Ish]

When is the.

[Joe Button]

Don't make me say it.

[Flip]

When a nigga married at.

[Joe Button]

When is the marriable part in that?

[Ish]

Where is the.

[Joe Button]

The portion of your life where you were living in a way to where that would be an option? Like even in this when I hear

[Big Freeze]

her talking because people got different lives.

[Ice]

I'm not camera.

[Joe Button]

I'm not saying wife.

[Big Freeze]

And. And I know I probably am more privy, because that's my friend, to information that everybody up here don't have. Mandy has been in relationships, long term relationship. So I don't want to. To say that she's not wifable based on the content of her show. Because I didn't say that, by the way.

[Joe Button]

No, no.

[Big Freeze]

I'm just saying you said she has.

[Flip]

What is that okay, if you've been in long term relationships, what does it say when you make a statement like that?

[Big Freeze]

That I don't want to be married

[Flip]

based off of what?

[Big Freeze]

Cause I'm up.

[Flip]

She said it based off the experience. Okay.

[Ice]

No, that's what she said.

[Flip]

Oh, okay.

[Ice]

I don't want to be married because I'm.

[Big Freeze]

Yo, Cam Newton has said this. A lot of people have said these things that are rich. They say, yo, dog, I don't want to be married. When you do the cost risk analysis, the risks are not something that I'm willing to take on.

[Joe Button]

Which is very different from saying what she said.

[Flip]

True, Joe.

[Big Freeze]

I'm not disagreeing with her. I think that's bad what she said. I'm not defending Mandy. I'm talking about objectively.

[Ish]

There's no right or wrong.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ish]

Everybody can do what the fuck they want to do.

[Joe Button]

So this is not like a debate.

[Big Freeze]

Why sign a prenup?

[Ice]

Right?

[Parks]

Why sign? Yeah, a bunch of reasons.

[Ice]

Why?

[Big Freeze]

Because you said, yo, if you thinking like this, that we gonna break up, then there's no reason for you to get married. So if you thinking like this and we gonna be the guest ever, then why would I sign a prenup? A prenup is a protection or an insurance. The same thing that I said. Yep. So if you go into this, this, this. This arrangement, signing a prenup, that means you have taken in mentally that this

[Ice]

could possibly not work.

[Big Freeze]

Not work.

[Flip]

Right.

[Big Freeze]

God willing, it works, but it could possibly not work. And in the event that it don't work, I want to protect myself as much as possible.

[Ice]

That is the. That is the whole thing about a pretty.

[Joe Button]

That's not the only thing about it.

[Big Freeze]

I'm not saying that's the main thing about a prenup. If this don't work, these are the protections that I'm putting in place.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In the.

[Big Freeze]

In the event that this don't work,

[Joe Button]

I'm having prenup conversations with mine. Not because I want to be okay. In the event that this don't work out, I'm Having those conversations because I want to make sure you okay.

[Big Freeze]

But you can make sure she's okay without a prenup.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, exactly.

[Big Freeze]

Tell me how you could put money in account today that only Sade has access to tomorrow, and you don't need no prenup. Whatever the prenup agreement is decided on, yo, if I. If the prenup says yo, you get 5 million, 10 million, 3 million, whatever the case may be, because in my heart of hearts, know that I want you taken care of in the event we break up. You could do that today without a prenup.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How would you do that?

[Joe Button]

Just by putting money in account.

[Big Freeze]

You could put money in a trust. You could have. These trusts are so in these wordings and these wills and all this. When I say my. They could be detailed to the T. They could. Yo, I want you to have black nail polish the whole entire time or you forfeit the money.

[Joe Button]

You leaving a lot. You leaving it.

[Big Freeze]

When you say. I'm being vague. I'm just giving you an example of. You ask me how it can be done. I'm giving you an example of how it could be done with no premium.

[Joe Button]

But that example is not realistic because that example is void of the human emotion part of marriages that go through some. And again, I've never been married, so I want to watch my words on this, but. Okay, cool. I want you to be fine after we break up. I'm fine right now. You fine and we marry. I'm putting money account. Putting money account. Putting money in your account now. Emergency happened. Something go wrong. We looking at each other differently. That in your example, that guy continues to do that so that she's okay. Yeah, that's not realistic to me.

[Big Freeze]

But you can have it worded to where I don't give a what your emotions get to. This stands.

[Ice]

This happens.

[Big Freeze]

This is lawyers.

[Ice]

You can put whatever you want.

[Joe Button]

Y' all are saying what I'm saying the prenup is not just for the protection.

[Ice]

No, we're not talking about the prenup. You can do that. No, we're not talking about a prenup. We're not talking about a prenup.

[Big Freeze]

I'm talking about me and you today could go start a show and we say, yo, dawg, regardless of what happens with this show, when we walk away from the show, I'm Joe Button. I'm the alpha on this show. Ish is the beta on this show. I want Ish to now have XYZ because of the SA sacrifices he committed to this show. And I don't give a fuck what happens. It can't be touched. You can do that with any contract. Contracts are a binding for a reason. You could do the same exact thing. Regardless of what your emotional sways are.

[Joe Button]

You know a prenup is just a contract.

[Flip]

I know.

[Joe Button]

So y' all are saying have a contract, just not a prenup.

[Big Freeze]

No, we're not saying that, Joe. That's nowhere near what we're saying. Park said that if you go into a matter of marriage thinking that it could possibly fail, you shouldn't be married.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's not what I'm saying. Well, speaking of marriages and prenups, Malcolm Jamal Warner has an interesting situation going on right now. Imposthumously.

[Joe Button]

Get that off and have that bromance talk. You is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, finish it.

[Flip]

What you mean let her get it off?

[Ice]

We didn't get it all we said. We disagree with her wording.

[Big Freeze]

I disagree with her wording.

[Joe Button]

Got it on my pajama pocket. I'm doing. You were saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Martin, Michael, Jamal Warner is having a really interesting situation right now. Speaking of prenups, and of course this is posthumously. We lost Malcolm Jamal Warner last year. A year ago. Rest in peace to him and his memory.

[Ice]

Yes, indeed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

His widow is suing the estate. The reason is there's a family trust managed by Malcolm Jamal Warner's mother. That's where the money is. That's what's managing everything. The widow, Malcolm Jamal's wife was saying, is saying, look, we had a prenup. And he never lived up to the terms of the prenup. And because he never lived up to the terms of the prenup. I need money from the estate.

[Ice]

What terms did he.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

One of them was the big one was the insurance policy. He never had an insurance policy. I'm pulling up the rest. He never had an insurance policy with her as the sole recipient or beneficiary of at least $1 million.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which sort of makes sense.

[Ice]

That's in the prenup that he was supposed to carry a life insurance policy. Her a sole beneficiary. One mil.

[Flip]

Yep.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

A $1 million life insurance policy. Naming her a sole beneficiary. And a reciprocal policy on her life.

[Ice]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

To pay her $5,000 a month as his chief of staff.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And to give her $16,000 a year on their anniversary.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And also to fund a tax free retirement account for her and maintain her college funds for their children.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So those were the things he was obligated to do. So I'm Watching people on the Internet respond to this in a lot of different ways. Some people think it's in poor taste to sue the estate. You know, they make it seem like it's a money grab. I'm like, well, if they had these prenuptial conditions, it was for her financial security. And part of why we established prenups is for financial security. You know, $5,000 a month, $16,000 a year on the anniversary. I didn't even know people did that in prenups. I'm not saying it's wrong, but $16,000 a year on their anniversaries, funding the retirement account for children, college funds, all that stuff makes sense. And the life insurance policy, I think is just a responsible thing to do for anybody. Malcolm was making $680,000 a year, reportedly at the time of his death. And so just to give you. I'm just adding that because that's been reported, but also I think that gives some context for what he may have been able to pay and also what their lifestyle was. So I think that's just.

[Joe Button]

Let me.

[Ice]

Let me ask a question. All right? I agree to these things. Prenup, we get married. Times change. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Can.

[Ice]

I'm not married. I don't know. Can you amend any of this shit? Can y' all go back and say, look, we need to change some of this because now I can't do 16,000 on it, whatever the case. Can y' all go and fix any of that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can if both people agree to it.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can. Here's where it gets tricky. And this is the. No one expects to die, of course.

[Big Freeze]

That's exactly it. Of course. So, yo, I might have agreed to maintaining a $1 million life insurance policy when we signed this, right? You hit rocky roads, you gonna bounce back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause you are who you are, and I'm riding.

[Big Freeze]

You might have borrowed the money from your insurance policy. You might have canceled it. You might have did a bunch of shit thinking that I. I got time to go back and replenish this, right? And he died again in a freak swimming accident. He wasn't sick or anything of the sort. It just haphazardly happened. So to my point, before he could have. When I was telling Joe, he could have put a million dollars in an account, right? An interest bearing account that he can't touch, right? You can legally do that. He could have put some shit away or whatever the case may be away, If unforeseen shit would happen. She's taken care of. They have an eight year old.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Big Freeze]

So I'm not mad at her. They have an 8 year old. And my 8 year old is accustomed to this standard of living. So if these things you promised me and we have documented on paper are what I should get in the event of your demise, I don't think it's wrong. And you said it was reciprocal. So in the event of her demise, he would have gotten a million dollars to take care of their child, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. It's an eight year old involved here. It's not like their kids are 25, 26, 27 years old. I don't know what the young lady did for a living, but I don't look at that like she's in a dead wrong. Especially if the estate and the trust has enough money to give her this million dollars.

[Ice]

That was my question, I must say. Well, if he was making this amount, what's, what's, what's left? Like how much apart?

[Big Freeze]

This is how he gets his royalties and all of that.

[Ice]

Exactly.

[Big Freeze]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, here's the thing. He may have had other insurance policies.

[Ice]

Yes, it could have.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, his mom might have this

[Ice]

one set up that way. Yeah, I'm not mad at her because

[Mark Lamont Hill]

he has a net worth of 3.4 million.

[Big Freeze]

And when these trusts get set up, a lot of times the trust is the beneficiary of the insurance policy. Like that's something that the wealthy people do. Like they set it up to where the individual parks is not the beneficiary. The blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Trust is, you know what I'm saying? And so the trust will get the bread and then allocate it accordingly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, interesting.

[Big Freeze]

That's the Rockefeller shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I, I just hate and I don't, I don't know their situation. I don't know who's right and who's wrong in this. I just want everybody to be okay. But it's just.

[Ice]

Is there a right and wrong? I don't really, I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me say this. It's being presented by the media in a way, way that's making it seem like there's a battle between the mom and her. And I don't know what the other side of that argument is. I don't know what's true. I don't know what's in the preum. I didn't see. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of things that we.

[Ice]

Taking it off face value off of

[Mark Lamont Hill]

women, but if everything on face value,

[Ice]

I'm not mad at all.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ice]

If everything that you said is true, that's the only avenue I got.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly.

[Ice]

I got to do this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Exactly. And I'm sure her first move wasn't to contact the lawyers.

[Ice]

You probably talked to the family and they yo, we a got this. Or it could have just been a shock, right? You know. Wait, what do you mean? There's no life insurance policy, right? What do you mean is that.

[Big Freeze]

Wait, wait, what happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ice]

Okay, so what do I do?

[Joe Button]

Right?

[Ice]

Well, the only option is you're gonna have to sue the estate.

[Big Freeze]

His wife was his assistant and his chief of staff during their marriage.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that's what he wanted. And that's why she wanted that monthly salary.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The 5,000amonth for monthly salary, et cetera, et cetera.

[Big Freeze]

So if she hasn't worked in some time time.

[Ice]

What can I do?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, she's a doctor of psychology.

[Big Freeze]

Additionally, she's an unemployed graduate student pursuing a doctorate in clinical psychology and the co founder of the Warner family Trust. And river and Ember.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

So again, I don't know, based on her doctorate, what money she has coming in. But if she's been working for him for some period of time, she may or may not have just this nest egg of money sitting around.

[Ice]

I just don't get the other side. Like, what do people say she's supposed to do?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think the other side might be.

[Ice]

Yo, just take the L. You good,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

not take the L. But again, the only thing I could imagine the mom saying is we don't have that much money here. If I give you all of this, there's nothing left. And there might be some other thing. He also said I might have to

[Ice]

sue y' all to see that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And that might be true. I'm not taking the other side. I'm just saying I can only imagine the other side is we have limited funds.

[Big Freeze]

And that's the funny part, to Joe's point, if you not married, which they were, but when you're not not married, sometimes an issue gets presented when you just a long term girlfriend.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

You don't got no rights here.

[Ice]

What would they put down?

[Big Freeze]

Boyfriend.

[Ice]

What they put in the obituary. Special friends.

[Big Freeze]

That gives you that.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

Some families won't give you that. And so I see, you know what I'm saying? The benefits. And that's why I said like that paperwork should be ironclad. In the event you are not married. That paperwork should dictate how you want all of your to go and your Especially your assets and protection.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, well, thoughts and prayers.

[Parks]

Thoughts and prayers we don't know about.

[Flip]

So, yo, just. Just now. Well, yesterday on Monday, Streamage University wrapped up. I think it was Sunday, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Graduated. Did y' all have a good.

[Flip]

I didn't graduate. I wasn't dead, man. I wasn't there at Streamers University. But I want to shout out to Kais in that. Absolutely always that, you know, at Streamers University. I think that it's important because. No, I'm not begging.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Please.

[Flip]

Yeah, watch your mouth. Hey, yo, look, I want to salute Carson. And I think that what he. What he's done and what he's doing by bringing different creators from around the world, no matter your color, no matter your race, no matter who you are, is important in having them engage with each other. Small creators engaging with big creators. I think that that's amazing. When I was tuning in, there was a lot of smaller creators who were afraid to approach the big creators because they didn't want to look like a leech or look a certain way. And Kai, not only did he say that, Kai and other people, not only did they say that you supposed to do that, but he encouraged that. I think that's important. One of my favorite things was an older lady, I think she's 59 years old, named. I love puzzles. And she was in there and it seemed like she was alone and she just. They was knocking on her door and stuff like that. But I like the fact that Kyle took his time and went. He popped up behind her, Popped up behind her, acknowledged her. And I like that a lot of streamers followed that, because sometimes when you reach that age, you know, your kids are probably grown, you know, or, you know, chose a different life and you be by yourself. And to see that the kids didn't forget about her and to make her feel as important as I felt watching it meant a lot to me. And I gotta pick up the car, man. Young man doing it, putting on for the young people, man. A lot of y' all made fun of him when he took that mental break or when he took a break for himself. Like, no, it's not. Sometimes you need a break. Your life is on camera 24 7. You're trying to appease to the people out there. And then now you found a way to come back. And not only come back, make an impact. So shout out to Kasha.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to you, Big one University.

[Flip]

That my big homie.

[Parks]

Watch.

[Flip]

He called me. He called me Unk. Watch your mouth.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's cuz you Old. That just mean you old.

[Flip]

Hey, who you look up to, huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me?

[Flip]

Who? 19 keys. Who you look up to again? Shout out to my man 19 keys. I'm about to say, why you disrespecting 19 my man?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can't tell.

[Flip]

No, no, I can't tell. That nigga will respond. I know he will. He with them other niggas?

[Ish]

No.

[Flip]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Has anybody seen brother Flip?

[Ish]

Brother Trevor?

[Big Freeze]

Trevor, brother Trevor.

[Flip]

Hey, how you gonna bring somebody here from the. From the nation not invite me? You know, I want to go be

[Mark Lamont Hill]

my fighting me and you.

[Flip]

You said what? What he said? Because he do that. He do so. So too quick. Say it again. Say it again. That's what he said.

[Parks]

He said he's a fighter and he didn't want you to be like, oh, it's about fight scared or, like, intimidated. You know how you feel about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was your day off, bro.

[Flip]

I shake my hand and you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He was your day off.

[Flip]

I asked my brother to bring I to wanted. I asked Marco, can you invite me up there to the Nation of Islam? I want to meet Minister Farrakhan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I got you.

[Flip]

It's the only favor asked.

[Ice]

That was funny. So can you invite me up there to the Nation of Islam? Right?

[Big Freeze]

It's one everywhere.

[Flip]

Can you imagine

[Mark Lamont Hill]

that?

[Flip]

Got nothing else to laugh at, nigga. Let me sit up. That got nothing else to laugh at, N. You immature ass niggas. All you gotta do is giggle like little.

[Ice]

Yo.

[Flip]

Can you say that? I want to meet Minister Farrakhan. You are taking me fomo, you ass.

[Ice]

Oh, you and Do Joe over there

[Flip]

laugh. I'm not distracted like you when a laugh.

[Ice]

You don't want to talk.

[Flip]

You mute. Mute my talk? You can't stop me from talking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Flip]

Look what I'm doing.

[Ish]

Laugh.

[Flip]

Laugh at me and watch me talk. Exactly n. Stop playing with me, boy.

[Ice]

No sense.

[Ish]

But you got it, bro.

[Flip]

Yeah, nigga, I want to meet Minister Farrakhan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, you made a good case for it. Yeah. If I could bring one person to see the minister, it's going to be you.

[Flip]

We talked about it enough. I'm a fan. I would love to do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I would love to do that. You got. We'd love to go to Chicago.

[Flip]

I'm down to go to Chicago.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, let's do it.

[Flip]

You trying to insinuate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm just saying he's not traveling as much. We'd have to fly, that's all.

[Flip]

Are you still invited there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Flip]

Are you still invited, Mark?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Of course I'm invited everywhere.

[Flip]

Mark, you're not invited to. He said you do more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Actually, the minister sent me a lovely note last week, two weeks ago.

[Flip]

Let me see. I don't trust this. He always be dropping. Let me see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, look, Minister Farrakh.

[Flip]

I watch all that old Phil Donahue shit. I watched when he was up there. The first time he was cool. The second time when he went back and broke the niggas up, he put out all the Nation of Islam to the front. I watch him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He responded to my eulogy up here.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can read it.

[Flip]

I mean, the minister just watched and was moved to tears. He said your words touched his heart six to seven times. He thanks you for your love. And why you putting that voice on people?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it doesn't see. You can't say you struggle with some of the words.

[Flip]

No nothing to our people into the world.

[Ice]

I would.

[Flip]

What you perform your minister, you. You perform your job with brilliance and courage. The minister. Why are you doing that? Yo, yo, you know what? You. You an intellectual bully.

[Parks]

His receipt game was crazy right there.

[Ish]

Text that.

[Flip]

But he shut me down because he doesn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because he's 92 years old.

[Flip]

You can voice it. Hey, tell brother Mark this. He gonna be looking for brother Trevor.

[Ish]

I don't play.

[Ice]

I don't.

[Flip]

I don't. I don't play with. You know, you remember last time, you're not playing with them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, no. Salute. Salute. Salute to the minister.

[Flip]

And do you plan on going to see him though, Mark? Do you plan?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I. I was. When I was in Chicago at St. Sa, I wanted to catch up, but it was just too much. Much going on.

[Joe Button]

Got it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And you know, I want to be respectful of people's time. But yeah, I would absolutely love to see him and anyone else, you know, who's a long distance runner in our struggle, but definitely him. But I gotta bring you. Is there anybody else who's like a giant that y' all want to meet? Like, I always wanted to meet Muhammad Ali, but I didn't get a chance to like people like that.

[Big Freeze]

Nah. Yeah,

[Ice]

I might. If I had the chance, I would want to shake obezy hand.

[Flip]

Seinfeld.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Obama. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's interesting.

[Flip]

Obama. I want to be Seinfeld.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jam Lee Curtis.

[Flip]

Jam Lee Curtis.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That C that counts, right? J.B. lee might be one of them Bill Clinton.

[Big Freeze]

It ain't. It ain't that many people but Obama. Faron facts.

[Flip]

Obama.

[Ice]

I just want shake his hand.

[Big Freeze]

Muhammad Ali would have been fire.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Flip]

How do you act though. You got to be cool. I think you going to be cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's going be cool all the time.

[Flip]

Some not me. I'm cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If anything, I think Ish will under.

[Parks]

He'd be too cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He'll understate how excited he is because he's.

[Big Freeze]

Nah, I might get he out. It depends.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It depends who would make who would make you giddy? Obama Male.

[Ice]

Both of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Freeze]

Farrakhan and Obama.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I can see that.

[Flip]

I love Farrakhan.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

How about you Ice?

[Ice]

I said Obama.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Obama.

[Flip]

That's the one who was ice.

[Ice]

Martha Stewart.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Martha Stewart.

[Parks]

Sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh. That wouldn't have. It's a good one. I just didn't think about it. How about you park?

[Parks]

So many, so many just want to meet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But you thing is a lot. I feel like a lot of people you would giddy out of you've already

[Big Freeze]

met or you giddy out of them over a musical.

[Parks]

Yeah, so many, so many creatives get it out.

[Ice]

When ghost faces you walk. I would never forget that.

[Big Freeze]

That was classic.

[Ice]

I wish we had the BTS camera for that one. That was great. Mr. Mr. Mr.

[Flip]

Besides Minister Farakhan, I want to meet Larry David.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, I can see that.

[Flip]

I want to really meet Larry David.

[Ice]

Shout out with the police.

[Parks]

Have you started watching the new show yet?

[Flip]

Larry David from I'm scared too. Not Shout out I'm scared too the Bronx.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, that was Larry Davis.

[Ice]

My bad.

[Flip]

I'm talking about Larry Davis. I would love to meet him. He's the only person that I I told Ian. Yo, Ian, use your white power. Let me meet Larry David, please. What? What's so funny for I want to meet him.

[Big Freeze]

Yo, I think I, I, I would like to meet Denzel.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Ice]

He just cool as shit.

[Big Freeze]

He just seems super duper cool.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's a great No, I didn't

[Ice]

see I'm sure everybody else I wanted to.

[Parks]

I'm scared too, but it also might be hilarious. It is Larry David.

[Ice]

Wait, scared.

[Parks]

He's got a new show where he's breaking down like historical events but in Larry David format.

[Ice]

Oh, okay.

[Flip]

Oh, hbo.

[Parks]

Hbo.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm always scared when people do that last hurrah. Yeah, cuz sometime you swing for the fences and it's man a amazing. And sometimes it's like oh word. Like curb is amazing. But it ran its course.

[Flip]

Go ahead real quick. My man from the YMCA died, right?

[Parks]

He did.

[Flip]

The leader. Yo, they have a song son. They dropped a new song before he passed away this year.

[Ice]

People.

[Flip]

Yo, she said, my man from the

[Ice]

Y, I thought it was a. You knew.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I thought when he was homeless. That was the cop.

[Flip]

Nah, nah, yo, hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He said, my man, security guard.

[Flip]

Hey, yo, listen, listen, cuz.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was.

[Flip]

I was on my stream yesterday and I'm like, yo, you guys, especially the podcast and people around the world made it. Made it very yucky and scary for me to sing the ymca because they attach salacious behavior to it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz it's a salacious song.

[Flip]

No, no, it's about what?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sex.

[Joe Button]

We did.

[Flip]

No, no.

[Ice]

In the public place.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We broke the whole thing down.

[Flip]

Yeah, we don't gotta break it down now. But look, I went. I went on a YouTube.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You went on the Village People? Yes, I did. Okay.

[Flip]

Yes, I did. And they got a song called Disco Star.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch your. Wait, is that to make it not gay?

[Joe Button]

This new?

[Flip]

Yeah, it's new. It dropped a month ago. I was hyped. All them in it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Your algorithm gonna be crazy.

[Flip]

Let's go. Watch your mouth. Ish. Slap you. Yeah, they not gay.

[Ish]

They got girls.

[Big Freeze]

This.

[Parks]

You know, girls could be gay too, right?

[Flip]

Look, he doing the dance. The dance is a little freaky. Hold on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is gay too.

[Flip]

No, it's not.

[Parks]

And there's nothing wrong with that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's nothing wrong with it.

[Flip]

No, there's nothing wrong.

[Ice]

See, that put me in a TW a month ago. You know what was a month ago?

[Ish]

Pride month.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pride month. Disco star is. Is code for gay.

[Flip]

Oh.

[Mandy]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't you know the truth? You're a disco star. Everyone can tell that's what you are. Don't you know that you're a disco star. You'll be shining bright all day and night.

[Flip]

I'm not gonna allow you guys to take my brain. Disco songs. I listened to them as a kid. Nigga, yes, you listen to them.

[Ice]

That's Funky town.

[Flip]

Yeah, that's not. That's disco. That wasn't gay. No, I was gay too. Too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why you think T got funky?

[Ice]

All right?

[Flip]

Butt sex. It all comes back to butt that. See, this is the problem with these people, these two mature guys. The problem is you can't. You guys tainted my whole childhood.

[Parks]

Yo, don't say taint in this conversation.

[Flip]

No, but whatever you did, I was jam into that. That is a gay song.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, every song is.

[Flip]

Stop, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, man, it's already slick.

[Flip]

It's cool, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're a disco star.

[Parks]

Embrace it. Embrace it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You just have to know who you are.

[Flip]

I saw girls in there. Five. Younger. Not young. Meaning Younger than them in the video.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look a little closer.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, but why can't.

[Ice]

Why can't it be girls in the video?

[Flip]

Can we go to the next topic? I'm not allowing y' all to do this. Y' all do that a lot. And y' all put me out there and I stand on the ledge about myself, and then the. The community, they don't play with me.

[Ice]

Which community?

[Flip]

The lbgtq. They don't play.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They don't play about you?

[Flip]

No, no, they don't play with me. Can we go to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Would you like them to?

[Flip]

I would not. I would not. Hey, yo, speaking of bedazzling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Flip]

I see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Speaking of bedazzle.

[Ice]

I see what you. I see what you. I just tried, like, cuz a fabric. Cause of people that act as the fast niggas.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, on the board, it say, death to bedazzled clothes.

[Ice]

Yes, that's what it says.

[Big Freeze]

Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.

[Ice]

There's a couple of them. It gotta go, bro. It has enough. Somebody gotta say it.

[Flip]

It was bad.

[Ice]

It's bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it's bad.

[Flip]

I like that fantasy, son.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had on bedazzled clothes at the whole show.

[Parks]

That's true.

[Flip]

I had a pair of bedazzled shoes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You look like a disco star.

[Flip]

Now pause. Shout out to Joe Mother. She complimented me, and I love her. She inspired me to go get more bedazzled clothes. She was very complimentary.

[Ice]

She

[Flip]

my hand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's your truth.

[Flip]

No, no. See, I thought fat body that I didn't see it. Any bedazzled you wear is the glitter that your son throw on you. Watch your mouth, baby. Mouth. Tearing the car up. Watch your mouth. I like. I like that, though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I like.

[Flip]

I like the outfit.

[Big Freeze]

I can't.

[Joe Button]

I can't.

[Flip]

What's wrong with it?

[Ish]

It's bad.

[Ice]

It's just got. It's out of hand.

[Flip]

Is it aging or is. That's what I'm saying.

[Ice]

I ain't even talking about just that. Like, it's out of control now. Jeans, everything. Hat, shirts, sweatpants, Sweat. Yo, it's out of control.

[Flip]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This your old man? Get off my lawn. Just so you know.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. As long as you know, I'm fine with that.

[Ice]

Okay, I'm the old. But some of these old dress like an old. Huh?

[Flip]

You don't dress like a old.

[Ice]

Yes, I do.

[Flip]

Freeze. That is not an old nigga.

[Ice]

Young don't wear every box no more. Guess who wear them.

[Flip]

Freeze.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze. Dressed Like a old nigga who just came home.

[Flip]

No, he does not dress like a old.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's not a dis. I'm saying like.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Ice]

You might be right.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Flip]

That's what I'm saying. He don't dress like a old. He don't dress like he's 50.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean.

[Flip]

What.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Flip]

Say it. Don't. Don't protect your man. Say it. He don't dress like HE50.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We need what's understood got to be said.

[Ish]

Hey, blue eyes, you there?

[Flip]

Green eyes, Fig. Dress like a 30 year old. Chill out, Ash. You'll get yourself in trouble. And wrap it up.

[Ice]

Yo, did y' all see the Avengers trailer is out? Did y' all get a chance to peep it?

[Joe Button]

I did. I did see it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did.

[Ice]

Do y' all have any thoughts on it? Are y' all familiar with.

[Parks]

No, I'm kind of. I'm. I'm lost in the timeline of all this. All alternate universes.

[Ice]

And I think this was a. Cause, you know, they were supposed to been doing a whole situation with Jonathan Majors.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

As Kang and all that thing happened. They. They scrapped the entire. You're mad over that?

[Flip]

Hell, yeah.

[Ice]

Seeing how it played out, I. I get it. Yeah, I get it. But they've been needing a home run.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

The MCU in general, for sure. Like movies. Even if the movies have been not bad, but they ain't been Blockbuster.

[Big Freeze]

True.

[Joe Button]

Right.

[Ice]

It hasn't been no hype around like, oh, my God, you got to be there. I told you.

[Mandy]

Y'. All.

[Ice]

Y' all know I used to go see these shits the Thursday before they dropped.

[Parks]

Yes.

[Ice]

Buying tickets months in advance. I ain't did that in a minute. I haven't wanted to. The people I talk to like that be hyped up about these shits. There's been nothing to be hype about until now. We're here. You got the Fantastic Four, the X Men, the Avengers, all being thrown into One is. Is versus Dr. Doom, which a lot of is about to die. And I think this is about to be Infinity war. Death times 10. Yeah. He's up.

[Big Freeze]

And they bought Robert Downey Jr. Back.

[Ice]

Well, yeah, Robert Downey Jr. Is Dr. Doom. So they brought Chris Evans back, who from the end of Infinity War. I mean, excuse me, Avengers endgame. Seemed as if he was taking the path. I'm going to live. Life actually aged. He got older, passed the shield off.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And now he's back. He's welding Thor's hammer.

[Joe Button]

Pause, pause. Whoa.

[Ice]

That sounded crazy.

[Joe Button]

But yeah.

[Ice]

And now. So tickets drop sold out immediately.

[Parks]

Kind of like it's in December, right?

[Ice]

It's December 18th is the official date.

[Big Freeze]

That's crazy.

[Ice]

December 17th is the date I got tickets for. And a lot of people. Because you want to catch that first showing.

[Parks]

Yeah.

[Ice]

It's interesting though, because it's dropping the same day as Dune 3 and there's like an IMAX fight happening.

[Parks]

That's smoke.

[Ice]

You're all laughing. Y' all can laugh.

[Parks]

I've never watched them.

[Flip]

I never watched.

[Parks]

But I know the Dune people go hard for dude.

[Big Freeze]

Okay. I just, I just caught up because they were a thing. Yeah, I watched both of them this last probably like three months ago.

[Ice]

Timothy. That's what that.

[Big Freeze]

Timothy Chalamet.

[Ice]

That's all that came from Doom.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Big Freeze]

Like he wasn't that pre. Prior to Doom.

[Ice]

No.

[Big Freeze]

So that speaks to just the. The magnitude of those movies.

[Parks]

It's gonna be a battle.

[Ice]

Yeah, it's gonna be a battle.

[Parks]

Avengers is gonna win that battle. I think.

[Ice]

I. I mean, yes, I think, but I think so.

[Big Freeze]

Cuz you don't have to necessarily see Dune in imax.

[Parks]

Yeah, you kind of do if you're a Dune head. You might feel different.

[Ice]

You kind of do.

[Parks]

Okay.

[Ice]

But yeah, so we'll see.

[Parks]

We shall see.

[Ice]

Shout out to anybody who's a.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Do I have a duty? Is this like some boy I. I missed out on some dude that I realized growing up, like, I'm not a lot of dude. I did sports. I did all but like comic books and Avengers and like that I never got into.

[Ice]

I didn't get into comic books.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay. Because I feel like now raising a son, I feel like I gotta. I want to break the. I mean, is this some you should introduce your kids to?

[Ice]

I mean, probably not comic books.

[Big Freeze]

It was all just because of me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Big Freeze]

But it was a different day and time. So now you got the Internet, we got iPads, we got so many other things that comic books, I don't even think they could have a resurgence in a manner in which they. That they were. No, I'm saying in that regard, like where I dog used to go bottom shits.

[Parks]

They still. People still doing crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My homies did it. I just didn't get into it.

[Big Freeze]

Older people.

[Ice]

Yeah, but now they have them digitally. Like they're releasing new comic books damn near weekly. Marvel has their own basic. I think DC has one as well. You subscribe to them. Sorry, not an ad. But you, you can read the new comic books, new characters being introduced, all of that still. They keep Going.

[Parks]

People are buying CDs and playing cards and all types of shit. Comic books are gonna be on that vintage comes back.

[Ice]

Is that the next step in the evolution? A lot of the. They got a He man movie out

[Mark Lamont Hill]

he now he man.

[Ice]

You see what I'm saying? But that's. But what they're doing is for the shit. Like you said, introducing it to your child. It's through the movies now. Not through the physical anymore. It's through the movies. So they did Ninja Turtles, Transformers, He Man, X Men, Avengers, all of this. Everything from our childhood. They bring it right back. They just doing it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That wasn't allowed to do this. I missed it. But I want to loop him in. That's. That's good.

[Ice]

Let's do movies. I said. I said. We talked about movie night. I sat with the kids the other day. We watched the first three Transformers movies.

[Flip]

Oh.

[Ice]

Because they got the toys and don't know who the Optimus prime is. They just know this turns into a truck and we like it. I'm like, yo, let me show y'.

[Parks]

All.

[Ice]

I mean, I can't show y' all the cartoon because they're not gonna with it. Let me show y' all who these are. And they love that Bumblebee, all of this. But that. That's the way you introduce him today.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Salute.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

I would do things that I regret

[Mandy]

trying to get you to understand how

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I felt for you.

[Ish]

I tried a hard time and time

[Mandy]

again, but I didn't know.

[Ish]

That is our show for the day. Hopefully you have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.

[Ice]

Second before we can. I would be killed for this. I just want to send a rest in peace to Ali boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, yes.

[Ice]

Rest in peace to bigger ranking. I'm sorry it took to get to the end of the pod to do it. The south mixtape scene. Just if you rest in peace. Two tragic stories came out. I believe Ali boy was kidney failure and there was some. Some videos resurfaced of him talking about it. I didn't really get how big a ranking pass. But I know all of you know Jacksonville Duvall. Just salute. Rest in peace. Thank y' all for everything. If you listen to any of them down south mixtapes you heard but you know, bigger ranking from DJing them tapes. So just rest in peace.

[Parks]

Rest in peace.

[Joe Button]

Rest in peace.

[Ice]

Not as good as Mark with that. Sorry, y'.

[Mandy]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's important.

[Ish]

Love to me. I love you deep in my heart.

[Mandy]

No, you couldn't love me, baby. I just can't hold. No.

[Ish]

I should have let you go? Should have let you go? I should have let you go,

[Mandy]

you know?

[Joe Button]

Shouldn't have let you.

[Ish]

Yo. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoy delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do. Farewell. Adios. Arriva. Dir La vista. Arvois. So long. Goodbye Or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have.

[Flip]

Little m? O here.

[Parks]

Go.

[Ish]

Last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel and the close minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. I ain't got no issue standing on my way? I ain't going away.

[Mandy]

You ain't going?

[Ish]

Jbp. Where would you be without the jbp?

[Flip]

I'm from the Weber Nitty era.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's the network.