Episode 949 | "Appointment Viewing"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 949 | "Appointment Viewing"

Release Date: July 25, 2026
Episode Theme: Friendship, Sports Fandom, Hip-Hop, Versus Events, Internet Culture, and Celebrity Rumors

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1. Overview

This episode of The Joe Budden Podcast centers around the varied and lively discussions between Joe Budden and his eclectic friend circle. Themes range from sports fanaticism (especially around NBA trades), reminiscence about hip-hop and food culture, to in-depth breakdowns of the YG vs. The Game Verzuz battle. The panel also addresses internet rumors, social media call-outs, the public fallout over Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s doctorate, and the enduring grind of Black celebrity in America. Throughout, the discussion is irreverent, affectionate, competitive, and at times, contentious—underscoring the deeply rooted camaraderie and playful rivalries among the cast.

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2. Key Discussion Points and Insights

A. Appointment Viewing: Food, Coffee, and Taste Buds (00:30–06:00)

• Quick-fire banter kicks off about food customs—garlic powder in Black kitchens, sugar in coffee and grits, and barbecue etiquette.
• Mona expresses love for "oodles and noodles":

  “The day that a hot bowl of oodles and noodles don’t hit the spot, it’s gonna be a sad day for me, baby.” (02:26)

• Joe fears acquiring “elitist taste buds”:

  “If y’all get me the espresso, then I won’t like how my poor coffee won’t taste.” (01:38)

• Deconstruction of Black kitchen staples ensues (garlic powder and Lowry’s)—with playful debates on racial/cultural seasoning habits.

Notable Segment:

• Cultural food habits and jokes about how certain ingredients are "being targeted," sparking jokes about “garlic powder being recalled.”

B. BREAKING NEWS: LeBron James to the Sixers (06:01–11:01)

• In real-time, the panel reacts to news of LeBron signing with the Philadelphia 76ers.
  • Ish:

    “LeBron James is signing with the Sixers on a two-year, eight million deal with a player option.” (06:01)

  • The Philly crew (Mark, Ice, Mona) erupts in celebration and boasts about the coming NBA season.
  • Joe and other New Yorkers respond with groans, anticipating Philly sports fans' bravado.
• Flip:

  “This might be our championship celebrating, yo.” (07:20)

• Anticipation of NBA rivalries; jokes about Bronny, ticket price hikes, and the generational energy of Philly fans.

[Timestamp] 06:01–10:50

C. Hip-Hop & Versus: YG vs. The Game (32:16–61:14)

• In-depth breakdown of the highly anticipated Verzuz battle between YG and The Game.
• Joe admits underestimating the number of “Blood anthems,” while the crew debates song selection strategies and West Coast energy.
• Dissection of performances, crowd reactions, and the showmanship versus song curation.
• Critique on hip-hop traditions:
  • Drinking during live shows:

    "Why do y’all think that want to watch y’all go from sober to drunk?” — Mark Lamont Hill (46:15)

  • Rapping over vocal tracks and stage antics.
• Ish:

  "Game seemed like he was. YG was his favorite rapper." (45:19)

• Commentary on West Coast identity, gang affiliations, and the distinction in rap culture between regions.

Notable Quote:

• “He left a lot of high…He didn’t play Celebration. He didn’t play Certified Gangster.” — Joe (37:28)

D. Entertainment Recap: Will Ferrell’s Son & Celebrity “Nepo Babies” (70:36–74:44)

• Joe introduces music by Will Ferrell’s son, Magnus, and the crew candidly reviews the “neo soul” track in relation to the industry trend of "nepo babies.”
• Tangent on other celebrity offspring (Chet Hanks, Tommy Hilfiger’s son), privilege, and public perception.
• Key insight: even talented celebrity children can struggle to maintain momentum or gain public trust, especially if authenticity is questioned.

E. The Hollywood Walk of Fame: Charlamagne & Keke Palmer (80:44–96:14)

• Panel congratulates Charlamagne tha God and Keke Palmer for receiving stars.
• Mark Lamont Hill and Joe discuss trajectory, growth, and accountability in the public eye.
  • “Watching him grow as a person…how can you not appreciate?” — Joe about Charlamagne (82:47)
• Flip reads off other 2026 inductees and the group jokes about the logistics/cost of acquiring a Hollywood star.
• Side debate erupts over the idea of fame, community respect, legacy, and who would attend each other's ceremonies.

F. Cash App, Apple Pay, and Finesse Culture (26:09–28:55)

• Mona recounts losing $1000 to a mistaken Cash App transfer, resulting in a comic attempt to “pretend to be the police” to get her money back.
• Ish:

  "Cash app is like strip club commerce." (26:46)

• Dialogue about class perceptions around digital payments—for example, how preference for Cash App, Apple Pay, or Zelle signals socioeconomic status.

G. Internet Drama: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant's Doctoral Scandal (121:32–134:15)

• Reaction to Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s viral posts and the ongoing debate over her degree's legitimacy.
• The crew analyzes her pivot from therapist to “influencer” amid social media scrutiny.
• Mona:

  “You know how crazy you gotta be to play that game? You really ain't no doctor. So it's like, why aren't we all assuming that this is not that calculated a person to play that game like that…?”

• Exploration of “pretty privilege” and the commodification of controversy in influencer culture.
• Insight: The fallout has a real impact on celebrity booking, revenue, and long-term credibility—the crew debates if the “pivot” is a financial win or a last resort.

H. Social Media Rebuttals & “Marriageable” Discourse with Mandy (104:09–115:18)

• In response to Mandy (of “See, The Thing Is...”) addressing Joe on Instagram Live, Joe aggressively refutes her claim that he tried to sleep with her.
• Joe:

  “A lie don’t care who tell it, man…if you lie enough, Mandy lies so much, she can't tell when it’s a bad lie.” (105:46)

• The podcast distinguishes between “on camera” personas and real-life relationships, with multiple hosts reflecting on how podcasters purposefully amp up for social media.
• Broader conversation about "marriageability," authenticity, and the fine line between entertainment, branding, and personal attacks.

Memorable Moment:

• “Some lies you gotta fix…because Mandy’s popular and got a platform. Somebody might hear that and believe it.” — Mark Lamont Hill (107:33)

I. Child Support, Parental Rights, and Gendered Responsibility (152:03–163:16 approx.)

• The group discusses recent headlines about Devin Haney and Anthony Edwards’ child support settlements, using them as springboards for deeper discussion about fairness, gender power, and family law.
• Mona:

  “At the end of the day, my thoughts on this is like twofold because…I don’t know if you’re supposed to say way.” (158:57)

• Debates around who bears responsibility for parenting, the possibility of “opting out,” and societal double standards.

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3. Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• "The day that a hot bowl of oodles and noodles don't hit the spot, it's gonna be a sad day for me, baby." — Mona (02:26)
• "LeBron James is signing with the Sixers on a two year, eight million deal with a player option." — Ish (06:01)
• "Do I have to hear this all season?" — Joe (10:08)
• "Why do y' all think that want to watch y' all go from sober to drunk?" — Mark Lamont Hill (46:15)
• "He left a lot of high…He didn’t play Celebration. He didn’t play Certified Gangster.” — Joe (37:28)
• “A lie don't care who tell it, man…if you lie enough, Mandy lies so much, she can't tell when it's a bad lie.” — Mark Lamont Hill (105:46)
• “Some lies you gotta fix…because Mandy's popular and got a platform. Somebody might hear that and believe it.” — Mark Lamont Hill (107:33)
• “We know like whole move behind the scenes with a lot of this shit when you get locked up at all of these protests and stuff. It's holding them. That's bailing them out. And it's like. That's known. So it's like, yeah, I can speak to.” — Ish (169:35)
• "I got to add that to the topics that may trigger the room, bae." — Joe (163:20, about child support discussions)

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4. Section Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:30–06:00: Food, coffee, cultural banter
• 06:01–11:01: LeBron James to the Sixers
• 32:16–61:14: YG vs. The Game Verzuz deep dive
• 70:36–74:44: Will Ferrell’s son and “nepo babies” in music
• 80:44–96:14: Walk of Fame, celebrity legacy
• 104:09–115:18: Mandy drama & "Marriageable" discourse
• 121:32–134:15: Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s degree scandal
• 152:03–163:16: Child support, gender, legal systems

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5. Tone & Language

The panel’s language is raw, casual, and conversational—sometimes heated, always rooted in shared history. The tone fluctuates between playful roasting (especially between New York and Philly crew members regarding sports), nostalgic reflection (on hip-hop), and genuine engagement with serious issues (therapy, social justice, economic disparities). The group is never afraid to push uncomfortable questions or turn the lens on themselves and their digital personas.

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6. Flow and Content Value

This episode delivers a robust, engaging look at urban culture, hip-hop history, current sports news, the intricacies of online celebrity, and the new rules of reputation. The amigos’ chemistry, combined with their willingness to dissect difficult subjects and air out in-house grievances, provides both laughs and authenticity. For those who haven't listened, this summary offers a comprehensive map of both the conversations and the spirit that shapes one of hip-hop podcasting’s flagship shows.

Transcript

[Joe Button]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Mona seemed like she wake up and put ghost face on.

[Big Freeze]

I appreciate that.

[Mona]

That was. That was watching clips of black exploitation films. That's what I was watching. I like them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can't whoop me.

[Mona]

Whole style is chump.

[Joe Button]

If we're talking about Ghostface.

[Big Freeze]

Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, we are here. Appointment viewing. Get coffee. Go ahead, get you some wine. Roll up. Do whatever you gotta do. Don't miss out.

[Joe Button]

It's about

[Ish]

organic sugar in the coffee.

[Flip]

I learned.

[Big Freeze]

Yes.

[Ish]

Learned that today.

[Mona]

Oh, my God.

[Mice]

What?

[Ish]

It's trying.

[Flip]

Y' all put sugar in everything.

[Ish's friend]

Keep playing.

[Ish]

No, no, but coffee and tea.

[Joe Button]

Just my coffee for 31 cups a day.

[Mona]

Spaghetti and.

[Ish]

Oh, spaghetti.

[Mona]

Spaghetti. Like, let's. Let's. Let's really talk about it. I don't like no more, but grits if I'm feeling kinky.

[Joe Button]

Coffee.

[Big Freeze]

We still got to get him. Yeah, that's a big part of the problem.

[Flip]

Yeah, you have good coffee.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, it's our fault. Yeah, we've been supposed to do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, there's this.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God, man. I don't want to do this with like. But it's real thought that I had.

[Big Freeze]

Let's hear it.

[Joe Button]

It's like elitist taste buds.

[Big Freeze]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

So I'm scared if y' all get me the espresso, then I won't like how my poor coffee won't.

[Big Freeze]

That shit tastes like that shit that

[Flip]

we used to drink from Abe.

[Ish]

It's poor coffee.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's some poor shit I always want to enjoy. I feel you like coffee.

[Joe Button]

Oodles and noodles.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My mom heard me on the PODC

[Joe Button]

talking about, yo, I want to go to Flor de Mayo. Flo de Mayo?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

She goes up to Flor de Mayo. She says, yo, I'm at Flor de Mayo. You want something? I say, yeah, bring me back some lomo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yada, yada, yada.

[Joe Button]

She bring it right to my door. I taste. Don't taste the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rich.

[Big Freeze]

Now, to be fair, they restaurants be trash sometimes to go to.

[Flip]

It could be the day.

[Ish's friend]

It could be the day.

[Big Freeze]

It could be the day. Yeah.

[Ish]

Even if you eat in there, you could gonna see it.

[Joe Button]

You gonna see it off the inheritance tip.

[Mona]

The day that the oodle that's all right. The day that a hot bowl of oodles and noodles don't hit the spot, it's gonna be a sad day for me, baby.

[Flip]

No, we gonna convert you, Mona.

[Mona]

We got a list of he eat oodles and noodles.

[Flip]

I want to convert him too.

[Mona]

You gotta have oodles. Noodles are just necessary sometimes. Sometimes they just need a. It's not even a once a month thing, but sometimes every now and then a little garlic powder, a little butter. Yes.

[Joe Button]

I'm back to coffee though.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We gotta get season yours.

[Joe Button]

You just package gourmet.

[Mona]

All right, let. So what do you do? What's your.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm not. Come on, we on a big broadcast. I would never share my oodles and noodles recipe.

[Ice]

That's like.

[Flip]

Yeah, we've talked about it before though.

[Ish]

Excuse me?

[Joe Button]

And I don't think I shared it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Then pause.

[Mona]

Can we stop doing that? Y' all been doing this podcast for 73 years. Y' all talked about everything before.

[Big Freeze]

That's true.

[Mona]

Anyway. Black pepper, garlic powder, onion powder.

[Big Freeze]

Not garlic powder currently. Apparently it's been recalled.

[Ish]

That's the normal is dead.

[Mona]

That's it.

[Big Freeze]

That's it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All black people done.

[Ish's friend]

They said we can't with ass, bro.

[Ish]

I saw that too.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I feel like they coming for the shit we use. We use a lot garlic powder. Come on.

[Joe Button]

White people don't use garlic powder.

[Big Freeze]

Oh no, we do. Well, I guess Parks can kill garlic powder.

[Ish]

You don't use garlic salt?

[Big Freeze]

No.

[Flip]

Yeah, I think black people use garlic salt more than white.

[Mona]

No, Mark, that is racist.

[Joe Button]

Mark ain't all the way.

[Ish's friend]

Black people use garlic powder.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I use garlic powder, nigga.

[Flip]

I'm saying I know people because I went to buy some garlic powder. I barbecued on Sunday and I needed some garlic powder. My son in law brought me.

[Joe Button]

Oh, thanks for the invite. Word. I was free as a bird on Sunday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And hungry.

[Flip]

I don't have a barbecue.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And hungry.

[Flip]

A barbecue. It was just me, my wife and my daughter.

[Big Freeze]

Wasteful Barbecue.

[Mona]

He made dinner on the grill.

[Big Freeze]

Barbecue.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, wait.

[Joe Button]

Silence in here. It's too much going on there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is what you say, cuz.

[Big Freeze]

Barbecue for three people is crazy. Nah, you got to cook for more people.

[Flip]

I was trying to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You going through all that, you might

[Big Freeze]

as well have a couple more people over.

[Flip]

I was trying to borrow with my son in law. He. He want. He was saying that he is a master barbecuer. He wanted to show me. I ended up doing half of it. But he did all right though.

[Ish]

What he could say Was he nice?

[Mice]

Nice?

[Flip]

I wouldn't say nice.

[Big Freeze]

What'd he cook?

[Flip]

Chicken thighs, some salmon. What else did he do? He did a couple kebabs and some burgers. Nothing fancy.

[Mona]

How was the salmon? Dry?

[Flip]

The salmon wasn't dry, but he put salt. Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's from the hood.

[Flip]

Hood? Like people from his hood move to your hood. Like if they get case money. Like that level of hood.

[Mona]

I totally got that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he put me too.

[Flip]

This nigga puts. Put salt and sugar on everything.

[Big Freeze]

Wait, hold up.

[Ish]

Lowry's.

[Flip]

Lowry's is on after the salt.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, that's a lot.

[Mona]

Doing salt with Lowry's is crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's absolutely nuts.

[Flip]

Then the garlic. I'm like, yo, you know, salt and garlic and all this.

[Big Freeze]

You.

[Flip]

Yeah. I mean, and all these. He's like, this is my recipe, Pop. I was like, all right, you got it.

[Mona]

He calls you Pop, nigga.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mona]

You let this little nigga call you Pop?

[Flip]

My son in law.

[Mona]

Yeah, beat him up, bro. Beat that nigga ass, man.

[Flip]

Was it good?

[Ice]

It was.

[Flip]

It was. It was good enough. I'mma make his recipe with less of that in it.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, okay.

[Mona]

Though.

[Flip]

It was crazy salty.

[Mona]

Ew, man.

[Flip]

But it was good, though. Shout out to him.

[Joe Button]

Scratching's not there yet.

[Big Freeze]

You're not using the man.

[Ice]

Yeah, you gotta hook up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying? Represent for the fam from Crazy ass Queens.

[Flip]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mona]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sound move your mind.

[Flip]

Check it out.

[Mona]

For those who don't know the way I flow my name.

[Joe Button]

Look at you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You still got a little hip hop in you. This your era. I see you taking it back on the fashion tip. Breaking news. Breaking news.

[Ish]

LeBron James is signing with the Sixers on a two year, eight million deal with a player option. Report it right now.

[Mona]

Are you serious? Apologize.

[Ice]

Let me check.

[Flip]

No, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sher posted it.

[Ice]

It's officially.

[Mona]

Yeah, N Philly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nigga Joe.

[Flip]

Joe.

[Ice]

What do you think about that podcast, Nigga Joe.

[Flip]

What do you think about that, LeBron?

[Mona]

Come on my podcast, bro.

[Ice]

Told you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I told you what I think about it. Michael Ruby.

[Flip]

You know what?

[Mice]

Mute up.

[Ish]

Yeah, I don't care what you're talking about right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, bring it out.

[Ice]

This is a podcast. That's a Philly podcast.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go.

[Flip]

You might as well.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, it's still this year, but it's not last year. And what are you doing? You're moving the championship ball.

[Flip]

Yeah, well, that season's over, man.

[Big Freeze]

It's over.

[Ish]

That's the pass oh, they crazy.

[Joe Button]

Let him.

[Flip]

You said he was going to Cleveland.

[Ish's friend]

I did.

[Ish]

I heard you n. I did.

[Flip]

You said. You said who the would go to Philly?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The answer is LeBron John boy. No, no, no, no. Let us have our celebration.

[Flip]

This might be our championship celebrating, yo.

[Big Freeze]

What?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This might be this.

[Mona]

We.

[Flip]

Yes. We got the greatest basketball player ever of all time. And, Bronny, if you want a spot, we got you. We got you. Whatever you want.

[Ice]

He's gonna win.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now you want Bronnie.

[Ice]

I love Bronnie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I fucking love Bronny. That's what I've always been saying.

[Flip]

If y' all would just let the nigga play and give him some.

[Ish]

Give him a chance.

[Ice]

Give him a chance.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He just needs a shot.

[Flip]

That's what I'm saying, man. I see him doing 12, 5 and 5 in the league.

[Big Freeze]

Joe, queue up the Bahamadia, man. Come on, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, LeBron.

[Flip]

Fucking J. LeBron. We've been telling him every day.

[Mona]

Every day.

[Ish]

I don't gotta tweet it no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I can say yes. Let's fucking go.

[Ice]

Same horror as before the smoke got blowing Oranger laws meaning you sue at your own cost. Last of a breed to do it, we was taught Gods in the raft covering you and yours Gather round the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

world's most famous battleground Sky Zoo. Infamous enough where they have it if

[Flip]

you not cut from it it get

[Joe Button]

harder to breathe it Underground legend Sky

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Zoo shout to Scott with one poster

[Flip]

can hang you with a great speed

[Mark Lamont Hill]

where you can run up on whoever

[Flip]

has an eight seed or freeze up

[Mark Lamont Hill]

south beach from off the line or

[Flip]

four point plays in Easter overtime Let it bang the serenade Round of applause,

[Ice]

center of attraction like a Hoya catch us with a dog in the fight

[Flip]

for whoever should play the yard Christmas

[Ice]

went from St. Nick St. Bernard.

[Big Freeze]

This guy's nice.

[Joe Button]

That was super nice. Super nice.

[Ish]

He's a problem.

[Joe Button]

Go ahead, get your off, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz I don't. I don't want to hear another peep

[Joe Button]

out of y' all when this podcast

[Mark Lamont Hill]

start, so please, you'll hear all.

[Ice]

We good.

[Mona]

I. I manifested that, guys. I talked about it to Phelps last night, and I was like, phelps, seriously?

[Big Freeze]

Do we have a chance?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, hey, Phelps, run to Costco's, get LeBron a six pack, a six pack of water, my G, and bring back the chees. Hey, hey, fells, while you at it, run over to BJ's. LeBron needs some electrolytes.

[Big Freeze]

You need a little gram of some smoke.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead, man. Okay, so go Ahead predictions.

[Joe Button]

Come on, Philly people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all super excited. You. You erect.

[Flip]

Of course I'm excited.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This got an erection off this. You turned around, too, Crico.

[Ish's friend]

That is crazy.

[Flip]

Yo, we got the best league right now.

[Ish]

No, you don't.

[Joe Button]

You don't have the best starters.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is a big deal.

[Mona]

It's gonna be so lit. It's gonna be so much going on.

[Flip]

Just wait and see.

[Joe Button]

Do I have to hear this all season?

[Ish]

All season?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Ish]

Oh, now, now. Y' all could do your NBA schedule. Go ahead. I know y' all been waiting.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Audience, I apologize. Some of y' all never been to

[Joe Button]

Philly, so y' all don't know how Philly people be acting. But this is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is. This is what you have to deal

[Joe Button]

with when they get excited. Yes.

[Ish]

They probably down there, right?

[Mona]

I'm ready. Going to balcony.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, well, the three of y' all

[Joe Button]

are beardless, so I assume that means

[Mona]

y' all back home last night.

[Joe Button]

I assume that means y' all ain't about to action back home. I know in Philly. No, that ain't a. That ain't.

[Ish]

No.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not a Philly beard sticking out.

[Joe Button]

Shout to free man. All right, so can I get back to my queen?

[Flip]

We got all year to talk.

[Mona]

Yeah, we good.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, we don't.

[Mice]

Yes, we do.

[Joe Button]

I'm not talking to y' all about LeBron.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You'll watch James.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my.

[Flip]

That's my guy, man.

[Ice]

That's my guy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The work he did in Memphis.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Holy saying.

[Ish]

Represent for the family.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Back to. Back to Mike Geronimo.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mona]

Queens.

[Flip]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what I'm saying? Appointment viewing. Appointment viewing.

[Mona]

For those who don't know the way I flow.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, two. Sometimes I remember I'm from Queens. I play some queen shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, check it out, check it out. Shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to Farmers Boulevard out the whole Linden, Jamaica ass, 40p.

[Ish]

What up?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What up, Basely? What up out there? Rest in peace box. Rest in peace, Black Bo.

[Ish's friend]

Letting talk New York, New York.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, man. It's how I'm feeling today. Come on, man. Shout to my Philadelphia people. All right. We do have to turn this down, cuz. Royal flush gets about four maggots off.

[Flip]

Cause you living.

[Ish]

Ain't no reason for you to be chicken, faggot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That was the 90s.

[Mona]

Go change guns and cash.

[Ish's friend]

And I'm asking, do I have to

[Mona]

be king for action. A play of fame New York is

[Ish]

still the same McQueen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, shout out to everybody from the town, man. Whole five boroughs.

[Flip]

What up out there?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies.

[Big Freeze]

You sh.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With no evidence. Yo, see, that's the thing. That's where it get different for Rock on, man. I ain't going to talk about it. That's where. That's where it could get different. Rock. Rock On. Never heard a mixtape in his life. Hey, when mixtape. Come on, mute up.

[Flip]

Rock focus.

[Ice]

Due to the fact that we just a bunch of.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What up, boy? What up, what up, what up. Funny how the streets mold us a

[Mona]

large hold us in the cages where they hold us, it's much colder Follow

[Mark Lamont Hill]

our footsteps to where we rep they modeled us.

[Joe Button]

Damn, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, when this dropped, I tried to

[Joe Button]

find this beat for months and I found this and went crazy. I must have been 17, 18.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, shout to all the subgroups out there Shout to all the patronies out there Shout to all the parents out there Shout to my mom. Hey, moms, hey, Moni, you might as well get something to drink. I'm gonna be at this for a second.

[Mona]

Off the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

range all year I lay

[Mona]

it out for y' all money and nice that's how I'm running your wife stay whipping your life.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's appropriate for today. Like a Lucy, yes, sir. Shout out to all the college kids out there. Hey, Body International listening. Shout out to y' all, hey, London, Canada, Europe and all this

[Mice]

is a

[Flip]

message or example, whatever.

[Big Freeze]

What up,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Rock On? You could go get something to drink My, you could go head to the bar you don't play no real let me stop playing.

[Ish]

When I walk into a room, feel a slight breeze Stay a little while so they feel they might freeze Never

[Mark Lamont Hill]

understood why they never like me When

[Ish]

I lock the door, they turn into ice all you see is Nike.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Appointment viewing, appointment viewing Shout out to all the hater listeners out there Wait a minute.

[Ish]

Round trip tickets to who knows where

[Mark Lamont Hill]

State boarding never at least a day's

[Ish]

warning previous plans, they spawn a dollar in the dream the thing in New York State bor come St. John's to wait for us wait for us straight

[Mark Lamont Hill]

ballers, you're hearing it first Renate flawless

[Ish]

in almost every event putting up points while niggas like y' all stay score

[Mark Lamont Hill]

my score, my SC. Have some respect Shut the up money talking. This, this man over here is like, yo, what what? The man is like psycho, take him on extreme Rest in peace DMX always bounce like DM to the can Bring it from a enough is Enough. Hold y'.

[Mice]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause what's going on out there, Long Island? What up out there, West? Enemies, they all like to fake with one eye closed. One guy throws the door. If one guy froze, he'll get you right to represent. Turn it up in here, man. Way. Get some f up in here

[Ice]

now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, it's a weekend. We got good weather. We got a couple dollars in our pocket. Even if we don't, we got our health, man. We celebrate most of my health. My foot is up. My foot this morning.

[Ish]

My.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

My foot. I need to trade my feet in, man. My is bad.

[Ish]

My plant fasciitis coming back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I got. Whatever that is.

[Joe Button]

I got like, foot HIV or some.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, we'll be with you in two seconds, man. I'm just trying to get the vibe right. I'm just trying to get the vibe right. Rest in peace. Freaky time, Mr. Cheeks. What up, boys? Here you go.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I mean, for my niggas that went to the car wash today. Hey, we got a great show lined up for you today.

[Joe Button]

I told y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All. Now I'm just waking up at six

[Joe Button]

in the morning and coming, coming in. Just.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just playing joints. He looked at me and said, queens don't play.

[Ish's friend]

Do your thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do my kids stay out of my way.

[Mona]

Why they call me the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Everybody in the park right now, Everybody on the cruise right now. One to tell. But I was damn wrong. I hold it down like my man's gone.

[Ish]

I shoot anything I get my hand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go. Mona right here like a tampon. Yeah, my girl Mona got the loose tampons in her bag.

[Mona]

It's over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's over. No more.

[Joe Button]

Oh, I'm sorry,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nori. Under normal circumstances, I would never cut

[Joe Button]

your verse off like that. But we do have a show to do.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let me get these drops out the way so I can introduce the best co host in the whole world. Yes, sir.

[Ish]

Who was that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And the mona.

[Mona]

Congratulations, LeBron.

[Flip]

Guys, my phone is blowing up. Crazy.

[Mona]

My phone is. Oh, my God. People calling me.

[Big Freeze]

He does have season tickets. That's probably.

[Flip]

And the price of the brick just went up yesterday.

[Joe Button]

Y' all be believing all Mark lies. Mark ain't been to game since he took is. She bought that one little game coming in. Talking about season tickets.

[Flip]

My bill came yesterday. This is 190 this year. I'm like, you paying it?

[Ice]

Yeah, I'm paying.

[Flip]

I ain't got a choice, but this year. But I'm selling all. I usually sell all the tickets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just give me a prediction on y'

[Joe Button]

all win since y' all so excited.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause I don't want to hear this no more.

[Ish]

Larry. That's my Larry.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What?

[Mona]

O'.

[Ish]

Brien.

[Big Freeze]

Hughes, Shut the Larry.

[Ish]

God damn it. What the is I don't know what the he talking about?

[Mona]

You heard him.

[Flip]

You heard what the man the fuck I said.

[Ish]

I said what I said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Talking for the LeBron got that plant deal. Exactly. That's all it is.

[Ish]

Across the country. LeBron could be the mayor and.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, actually before we get into that. Before we get into that, once again,

[Joe Button]

you prediction markets are doing insider trading. Y' all are doing stuff.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I thought this the other day

[Joe Button]

when that Miami shit happened and they uploaded the YouTube vid saying we're introducing LeBron James. James on the 29th. The Miami. Did y' all hear about that? Yeah, Miami. He uploaded that to the YouTube page.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Upload the YouTube and tweeted it.

[Joe Button]

So then the prediction market went crazy. Miami spiked to like a 57 favorite to land him, which said to me,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yeah, put your faith elsewhere.

[Joe Button]

He's not. He's not going to.

[Ish]

Mike.

[Joe Button]

It just kills me how whoever back there is able to cake up.

[Ish]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

All for these predictions, but whatever. Congratulations to Mark and. And Mona and Ice. I know y' all are really excited

[Flip]

about it for a good season, but I'm definitely raising the price of my season tickets.

[Ish]

Oh for you should.

[Flip]

I've been selling.

[Mona]

Can you take me 81?

[Flip]

I'm selling them off. I still sell them off cuz I can't get to Philly that much. So I'm. Last year I only went to like two or three. This year I'm probably go to like five and sell the other 37 six games. But I'm definitely raising the price.

[Mona]

I want to go.

[Flip]

No more face value.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I mean, I guess this is just about. I mean y' all could have this bravado with like Celtics fans.

[Joe Button]

Cuz that's where the smoke is for y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Ish]

We just smoke them.

[Flip]

Yeah, we.

[Ice]

We beat them.

[Joe Button]

No, it's Jaylen Brown versus oh yeah.

[Flip]

Oh yeah.

[Ish]

Oh yeah.

[Flip]

We always hate. That's the thing. That's our tradition. We've hated something since Bill Russell.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, but it should be more intense this season though.

[Flip]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I hear the drying up out there.

[Flip]

We're not going to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We're not going to spoil. What episode is this?

[Big Freeze]

949.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Welcome to episode 949 of the JOE Button podcast brought to you by Fueled by Power, by Pride Speaks. Prize picks, gang. For those out there wondering, I still

[Joe Button]

have no idea how we will celebrate 1,000 episodes, but it is a pretty big milestone and achievement.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm sure I'll get to that.

[Joe Button]

But first, let me introduce y' all to the fucking greatest panel in podcast. And to my right, y' all know the vibes. Big Mona. Don't call her white girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Brand new ass.

[Joe Button]

Shaking it every chance she get. Mona, how you doing?

[Mona]

I'm doing amazing.

[Joe Button]

Good. We absolutely love you.

[Flip]

See one thing, Joe, she's not one of the dry ones. Oh. While you were outside on the balcony.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Wait, wait, you don't understand. Wait, wait, whoa.

[Flip]

While you were outside on the balcony.

[Ish's friend]

You know that firsthand.

[Mona]

Shut up.

[Flip]

She looked like she was enjoying herself. She got. She got a FaceTime from her boo.

[Mona]

I don't have a boo.

[Flip]

Oh, whoever that was. Her voice changed. She got light.

[Ish's friend]

She turned your femininity out for the next.

[Flip]

She's like, oh, you got your shirt off. Because he took his shirt off.

[Mona]

That's terrible.

[Joe Button]

Well, they make you strip down in jail.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They gotta do a cavity search.

[Joe Button]

You can't wear, bro.

[Mona]

I was like, I got a FaceTime. Ain't have a shirt on. It took. I was taking it back.

[Flip]

Oh, you were taking it back.

[Mona]

Okay. I'm an older person. It's not like it was. I can't.

[Joe Button]

You know, I don't even think it take much to get that thing.

[Mona]

Nah, nah, he nice. I ain't going to lie. He a nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'm not talking about him. I'm not talking about him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I ain't talking about him.

[Mona]

Shut up. Like I said, he's a beautiful man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She wanted him uncontrollably to see you

[Flip]

back on the couch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's happening again.

[Mona]

It actually, really happened. Actually, it just happened.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever you did last week, the.

[Joe Button]

The fans was like, yo, I ain't going to hold you on some bro. Yo. On God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

On some bro.

[Joe Button]

Mona was looking good. Shout out to Mona, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We so happy to have you. And she was on time and not too much on my girl. She did pay me my $150. Oh, yes, she did.

[Joe Button]

Yes, she did.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Apple, Apple.

[Joe Button]

Apple pay. That's when I learned that I judge people to use the Apple Pay. Like when you text money. When you text the Apple page a little bit. I didn't know until she did it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Virgo's a judgmental.

[Flip]

What's the cool way to Send money.

[Joe Button]

Virgo's a judgmental what's what.

[Flip]

What's the cool way to do it like that? You wouldn't judge somebody if Zelda. Cash app. What?

[Joe Button]

Yeah, one of those.

[Flip]

One of them.

[Mona]

Why I would think Apple pay is a little more classier than cash app.

[Flip]

I think it is because Apple bay

[Mona]

you could get your money back if something. Something happens. Cash app.

[Ish]

You're just cash app to me. Say you ain't got no bank account.

[Mona]

Right.

[Ish]

That's what I. There's a reason why. So if your first step is y' all gotta cash app you. All right.

[Flip]

Cash app is like strip club commerce.

[Ish]

Cash app not tied to your bank account.

[Joe Button]

Yes, it is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but it can be.

[Flip]

But it don't gotta be.

[Ish]

But a lot of people don't have one.

[Mona]

Cause cash app has a savings account on that thing.

[Joe Button]

That's a new feature for when they were trying to scale. But originally you couldn't have a cash app without Ed.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

You had to go to your bank account.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I ain't gonna lie.

[Joe Button]

I've cash app the wrong money. I mean the right money to the wrong. Wrong person.

[Mona]

Cash app don't give a about that. I've done. I sent a thousand dollars. I sent a thousand dollars to the wrong person. I was trying to pay a comic and the guy found me on Instagram and DM me and said thank you. You was a blessing. I prayed to God, I know I was gonna get my bills paid this month. And you said exactly what my bills were.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You let him keep it.

[Mona]

I text back, this is the police. The detectives are here now. You broke into her cash app. Okay, I. Charlie. I switched it around like I was a cop. I was on the phone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze.

[Mona]

Just send it back. Be all right. Jerome. It didn't work. He just blocked me. Yeah, I was sick, bro. Tears came in my eyes. I ain't going to lie. I've done it a couple times. But the thousand hurt. I ain't going to lie. This shit hurt.

[Joe Button]

Well, next to Mona, unfortunately more Philadelphia people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill has blessed us with his presence today.

[Flip]

Always.

[Joe Button]

Mark, how you doing, man?

[Flip]

Never better, man.

[Joe Button]

Good. I'm so glad you could be here today. Now, what's this? In my prime. Your shirt says today. What's the inspiration there?

[Ice]

Don't reason.

[Flip]

Just feeling. Feeling good. Feeling prime. Feeling in my prime.

[Joe Button]

Feel like lying.

[Flip]

I'm in my pod prime.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Ish]

Not your physical.

[Flip]

No, no. I gave a trash his dick yesterday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That dead sn.

[Ice]

Shut up.

[Flip]

I Just rolled out left, man. I rolled.

[Big Freeze]

Left the room, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was like, yo, can we get defensible? You know, can we give our ladies props for, like, all the trash dick?

[Ish's friend]

You know, when you go.

[Flip]

I gave her the. What do you mean?

[Ish]

You know when, yo?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, that's just what it is, yo. So listen. So we having a hard time. We having a hard time getting on, like, the same. The same sex schedule.

[Big Freeze]

It happens.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And she's like, yo, dog, what happened to the dick I used to get?

[Joe Button]

Like we used to. And I'm like, listen, it's a lot going on. No, and it's a lot on my. It's a lot on my plate.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm starting another gig.

[Joe Button]

Like, I got so much going on. They don't want to do that.

[Ice]

Nobody cares.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She talking about some plate you gotta spare four minutes. That's all you. That's all we about to. Why you acting like it's. It's a big to do. I was so crushed, but she was right.

[Flip]

You weren't wrong, though, right? And you thinking four minutes would all be. Be the same.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, but that's.

[Joe Button]

That's one of the reasons that I'm never leaving my girl. Like, I'm not getting back into having the game. Impressive, Dick.

[Ish]

Yeah, buddy.

[Joe Button]

I was asking a lot at 46 at this age. Yeah, I'm not doing that. That sound like a task.

[Big Freeze]

I'm a wy old veteran.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

At this minimum, that two for eight.

[Flip]

Like LeBron.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Leg minimum, mid level exception.

[Joe Button]

Vet minimum is hilarious.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Next to Mark, our good brother. We don't know if he got his rent yet.

[Big Freeze]

That's a good question.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't know if he got it yet.

[Ish]

Did you get some of it?

[Joe Button]

It's August.

[Big Freeze]

Some of it. Got some of April.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, if anybody out there listening needs shelter and a roof over your head

[Ish]

on the free ski, stack it up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hit this man.

[Joe Button]

Man, hit this nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, Mr. Thousand Doors and up, our good brother Ish is here.

[Flip]

Ish.

[Joe Button]

How you doing, man?

[Ish]

Great, sir. Yourself?

[Joe Button]

I couldn't be better. Happy to see you.

[Ish]

Likewise.

[Joe Button]

What's the name of this material?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Nylon.

[Joe Button]

It is nylon, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's two pods in a row on a nylon tip.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what's going on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I don't know what's going on, but I know when old niggas do shit like that, that mean he was at the gas station, Lil Fine bitch came out. Ooh, that's nice. And then he went over. Well, you looking good, man.

[Joe Button]

You look good, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Next to Ish. Come on, man. You think we would have a Versus podcast and not have Big Freeze in the building?

[Big Freeze]

It all ran.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's. That's right. He said what he said to Vato. Vato ain't do.

[Flip]

I watched that video. I was cracking up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I hate Freeze. I absolutely hate free. I ain't learning about my friends. Did you know that was.

[Flip]

Was happening?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I didn't know that was happening. You couldn't even plan that. If I had known Freeze was corny like that.

[Ish]

Shut up.

[Joe Button]

No, that's a different level.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, listen, Big Freeze, the freeziest of them all. Mr. Take it further himself, is here. Ice, how you doing, man?

[Ish]

I'm great. Couldn't be better right now.

[Joe Button]

Good. We absolutely love it. Look at the. I'm glad the Philly people in a good mood. Y. Y' all deserve that.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

When the last time good news came to Philly.

[Mona]

Shut up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm asking. Serious.

[Joe Button]

Was Picnic.

[Flip]

It was picnic.

[Big Freeze]

That was lit.

[Mona]

Yeah. H.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Elm. Elmy's finest. Big Parks is in the building. We got PO in the building. Corey's here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savona here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very, very, very important people out there are here. Everybody is doing great, feeling great, looking great, and smelling great. So with no further ado, appointment viewing. Let's get right to it.

[Joe Button]

Verse vs.

[Ish]

Vs. No, no. I shouldn't be the first one to speak. I'm waiting for the. Damn. My bad. You was right.

[Big Freeze]

I was. I said YG too.

[Ish]

I'm not talking to you then.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, okay.

[Ish]

I'm talking to. Who didn't say that.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, that's true.

[Flip]

There are some people of the religion calling you crazy.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'm bugging.

[Joe Button]

I'm.

[Ish]

I'm. I'm just waiting for that. Then we can talk about verses.

[Joe Button]

Joseph, Is he talking to me?

[Big Freeze]

I believe he talking to me.

[Flip]

I was on his side.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mona]

He ain't talking to me.

[Joe Button]

Oh, he is, Tony. All right. What do you want me to say?

[Ish]

I'll say it. I'll say it.

[Joe Button]

What do you want?

[Ish]

He say, floor's yours.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, so I saw Versus. So I saw versus, right?

[Joe Button]

I turned my TV on. This didn't start. So I was getting YG and game videos for two hours.

[Ish]

Wait, can we start before you do that, I'm sorry. Cause you know the news that came out that YG was detained.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

That morning.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So when the verses didn't start, it said, nah, 9:30, I think, like 9:28 is when the screen changed.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ish]

And versus coming soon. That it stayed like that in complete 40 minutes.

[Joe Button]

But once it came on, I had understood why. Why?

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You knew.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So now I made the mistake. I watched this versus with, like, family.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, that's like with my girl and her kids. Rev Cave. She was out and she came back. I was like, I'm just gonna go put this on the phone upstairs.

[Joe Button]

The kids are 18. They're like, what Game song should I know? It's like, I can't write this second.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it comes on. They fucking start rolling dice.

[Joe Button]

They both look amazing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mad members everywhere.

[Joe Button]

This is a Blood. This is a Blood.

[Ish]

Bochella.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I have thoughts on this. I just don't know if I could share them.

[Big Freeze]

Bombplex.

[Joe Button]

Boulin.

[Flip]

Big back.

[Big Freeze]

Hey, Travis. Bo Barker.

[Flip]

Yes. Travis on the draw.

[Joe Button]

I think Travis Barker's a Blood, though. Yeah, could be. I think he is a Blood. Could be. I'm. Look at me lying. I don't know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know. He just always is where Some is at.

[Big Freeze]

He killed it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's super cool.

[Joe Button]

Cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He's super cool. I don't have no.

[Joe Button]

I love Terrace Barker.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So it comes on. They both look great.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I clearly underest, underestimated how many songs are just a. About being a Blood. All of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I don't know what I was expecting to hear. All I heard was, see yg. I know that about. But in the beginning, it looked like

[Joe Button]

Game was trying to match Blood Energy with Blood Energy. On the record, too.

[Big Freeze]

I think he. That up a little bit.

[Ish]

He absolutely. Me too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did.

[Ish]

You played one Blood round, too?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah. That was crazy.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I.

[Ish]

That. That was it. That's all I needed to see.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, no, that was him.

[Ish's friend]

To trying.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Trying to blood it out.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So every song they like, nigga, this is my flag.

[Big Freeze]

Flag.

[Mona]

Flag.

[Ice]

Flag.

[Ish]

Flag.

[Flip]

Flag.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm like, yo, yo.

[Ice]

And I know to the Bloods, this

[Mark Lamont Hill]

is a time, y', all, it's New Year's Eve.

[Ice]

But to the next

[Big Freeze]

however you say that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was definitely Boo Bears be. Yeah, so they having a good time. But for the guy at home watching

[Joe Button]

with his family, it's like, this is

[Mark Lamont Hill]

a lot of fucking Blood shit. So I just watched it. I watched it to Ice's point. We gave it to yg.

[Joe Button]

We gave it to yg.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ish]

We gave it to the Choice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just think you a phony, nigga. That's why I have a problem saying it to you.

[Ish]

Bahamas phony.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because for 10 years or however long

[Joe Button]

you've been here, you've stood on the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

hill of nobody wants to see Game in a versus. You have said that. I've been up since five, trying to find the clip by having fans. If y' all find it, great. But that was your thing. And nobody argued with you about that because why would somebody argue? And the second YG is announced, well,

[Ish]

there's a person that could see Game of the Versus. That's all.

[Joe Button]

Wow.

[Ish]

But see, don't try to paint it as like. You keep trying to move my points around. I'm not taking anything away from Game. Matchups matter. We say this every single versus. Styles make fights. Styles make fights. Exactly. You hear YG Game in Compton or in la, I'm not sure exactly where. But if you're familiar, a lot of. And I understand how a lot of people, especially on the east coast, might not be too familiar with YG's music. I am. Y' all know me.

[Big Freeze]

I see that shit in person. I know it. I don't see that shit.

[Ish]

I listen to west coast coast rap same. So that is a bad matchup for Game. It was almost like, I don't see how he could win this.

[Big Freeze]

Why'd you guys.

[Ish]

That's my party. But my thing is me saying that is not taking nothing away from how I feel about Game as a rapper, as an artist. About his discography,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

call me delusional and dumb. I still feel like there was a

[Joe Button]

chance for Game to win.

[Big Freeze]

If he would have played his hand better, I think he could have at least made it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

Interesting.

[Ish's friend]

If he would have played some other stuff. Songs too.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what.

[Ish]

He left a lot of high.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't play Celebration.

[Joe Button]

He waited way too long to play Higher. He didn't play Certified Gangster. He didn't play fucking. What's the other joint that I wanted to play?

[Ish]

He could have played crack music like he got. He had records that are more. But again, to your. To that point, a lot of these songs are. They appeal to outside of la, not la. This is a LA thing. So I'm trying to play the records that'll resonate better in la. He did that than what the rest of the nation or the rest of the world want to see that. They might know Game records. Them records you be naming really hit like that out there.

[Ish's friend]

But the problem with that was Certified

[Ish]

Gangster should have came on no matter what.

[Ish's friend]

But the problem with that was the YG shits was smashes that everybody Knew Nationwide plus was Anderson la.

[Ish]

There was a lot of YG records. I know. True, true, true.

[Ish's friend]

But I'm talking about the one that

[Flip]

we know are smashes.

[Ish]

That was my point when it was made up like, y' all are gonna forget a bunch of these records, but when you hear them, it's like, oh, shit, I forgot about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, and then, right. Maybe I judged this differently.

[Joe Button]

Had I known going in that YG was the game's favorite rapper,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I felt like that was pertinent information for me

[Big Freeze]

to know he knew all the songs.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I. I was conflicted, and we made it clear. Yeah, well, that's what made it impossible

[Joe Button]

for me to ever say game one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because on the YG set game and his whole side was vibing.

[Joe Button]

They was lit. And on the game set, YG and them niggas, they didn't look like they were doing all of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I was conflicted, right? Cause on one hand, I want the OGs and the veterans and the older niggas to do exactly what game did.

[Big Freeze]

That's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. Everybody acknowledges you as that. Figure out west you got this started. YG and them kept saying, yo, we

[Joe Button]

grew up to you.

[Big Freeze]

Word.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So that's there already. But I guess to see it, he was just too happy.

[Ish]

That contradicts your. Your normal versus take, though, because normally

[Flip]

you'll say, you know, he a phony.

[Ish]

Yeah, you speak of phony.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Is you the older phoniest? The phony? I. I don't make no.

[Ish]

Yeah, I say that because anytime it's a old OG versus a newer act, you'll be on the other side of that. Like when we have Bobby Brown versus you. Like, yeah, y' all saying this, but y' all are gonna forget that the OG is gonna come in. He's the OG for a reason. He gonna come in and teach this something. And this was the flip flop of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, when you want to teach, Keith Sweat was up there putting belt to Bobby Brown ass, saying, I know he had no.

[Joe Button]

That was they, yes. But they were friends.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They put a record out together. They were being friendly game every second was stopping to just big up yg. Big up yg. Like, God damn, I'm going tell you

[Ish]

what, I think even about that.

[Big Freeze]

There was a lot of tequila involved too. Not for nothing, you get a little friendly tequila.

[Mona]

I couldn't get past how drunk was.

[Joe Button]

Wait, hold up. Yo. Hello?

[Ish]

Hey, is this Joe?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, you called you Joe, right?

[Ish]

What's the damn today?

[Mona]

Friday.

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Ish]

You at work.

[Flip]

It sure is.

[Joe Button]

I am at work. Oh, man.

[Mona]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Did something happen? I. No, my phone been closed. I ain't seen nothing on my phone. What happened?

[Ish]

Yeah, look, just. We. I just want you to know.

[Big Freeze]

Tell.

[Ice]

Tell the.

[Ish]

To come outside, bro.

[Ice]

All that little.

[Ish]

That y' all been doing, that was cool and all, but you know what

[Flip]

I'm saying, You know who that is? About that time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Talk to. No, it's about.

[Ish]

It's about that time, man. It's about that time, man. Just so you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know, bro.

[Mona]

Yeah. Z, bro.

[Joe Button]

Are you saying.

[Ish]

Hey, who that, Mona?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, North Philly. We up, man. North Philly, man.

[Ish]

23rd and we outside, man.

[Mona]

Turn me up.

[Ish]

North Philly,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

you going. You going too crazy. Hey, congratulations. Happy that y' all got LeBron.

[Joe Button]

I don't really think that has anything to do with the defending champions, but

[Mark Lamont Hill]

of course, you good.

[Joe Button]

Good. Good for you.

[Ish]

Of course you don't think. Now, let me say this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I will say, hey, May. Maybe some Sixer fans will come to Yalls Building now.

[Ice]

Okay, look, that's.

[Joe Button]

That.

[Big Freeze]

Look.

[Joe Button]

That's fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look.

[Ish]

Trying to say. Look, let me just say this real quick.

[Flip]

Ice.

[Ish]

You on probation. Like, you cool, but you feel me? Let's just color inside the lines for a couple months. You on probation a little bit, though,

[Big Freeze]

but you feel me?

[Ish]

But you still good with us.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Hey, big dog, Are you coming to

[Mark Lamont Hill]

my birthday dinner, bro?

[Mona]

Yes.

[Ish]

I'm gonna pull up. I just got my training camp. I gotta make sure you. I gotta get through training camp. You know, I ain't. I ain't gotta cut in three weeks, Joe. I'm on some right now.

[Joe Button]

Listen, I understand about the packers and all that, but. Get your permission slip sign from your wife, get your permission slip sign and come on out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We're in the middle of talking about

[Joe Button]

verses right this second. If you don't. If you don't mind, it's all right.

[Mice]

Oh, yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, yeah.

[Ish]

I sang yg. There was a whole lot of gang activity.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. God bless. Yeah. Yeah. Some light. Some light. So we.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We love you. Congratulations.

[Joe Button]

I mean, yes, sir. And.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And we'll say. Hey, give me a prediction.

[Joe Button]

Prediction.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Record. Record. Sixer record. Cause Mark, mona and I.

[Flip]

60 wins.

[Big Freeze]

60.

[Ish]

60 wins.

[Joe Button]

I hung up on him. I hung up on him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He did say 60. I banged that.

[Flip]

I think 55 is doable.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was a quiet banger.

[Flip]

55 is reasonable.

[Joe Button]

60. You is smoking.

[Flip]

I said no to 60. I said 55.

[Joe Button]

What the is wrong with Zaire?

[Ish's friend]

How many games NB gonna play probably

[Flip]

the same as last year, but we've added Jaylen Brown and LeBron. I think that's. And BJ's gotten better.

[Ish]

We'll be all right.

[Flip]

Yeah, we'll be fine.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Back to Versus. Back to Versus. Freeze. You could jump in because I don't have nothing to say until later. Later.

[Joe Button]

When they bring the out.

[Flip]

That was a moment.

[Joe Button]

Did they bring them out? That's the only part I care about. Go ahead. Give you back. It's your time shot.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I moved my mic.

[Joe Button]

Okay, cool.

[Flip]

You did it.

[Ish]

Okay, cool. I mean, I think we kind of said it. They put the official score sheet out where the fans get to vote and everything. And the came out to like 19. I think it was 193 or something.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, I didn't have it that bad,

[Ish]

but I didn't have. I didn't have it that bad either.

[Joe Button]

It wasn't.

[Ish]

I didn't have it that bad.

[Joe Button]

It wasn't.

[Ish]

I didn't have it that bad. I stopped this went more than 20 songs.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah. Went on and on.

[Ish]

Yeah. I kind of stopped after that. I had game winning, maybe six rounds, seven rounds tops. And a couple of those could have went either way. I know a lot of people saw he did all that lady. And that could have went either way.

[Big Freeze]

Okay.

[Ish]

There was a couple of rounds where YG just.

[Big Freeze]

Just

[Ish]

Blood Anthems. LA knew them party records. And I had some people that were there because I'm like, damn. The crowd don't really seem like they really what I expected.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish]

But then he sent me some videos from there. So they. For those who don't know, they mute the crowd in these streams.

[Big Freeze]

Oh, they should.

[Ish]

So you can actually hear the music.

[Flip]

It seemed like they was dead.

[Big Freeze]

Apple put the.

[Ish]

It's not. Give me a little bit of crap. It's not. It's not. It was not dead in there at all. The crowds are muted on the stream.

[Big Freeze]

They shouldn't

[Joe Button]

game.

[Ish]

Did drink a lot of liquor.

[Big Freeze]

He did an entire bottle.

[Ish]

So that's been a thing of his. When he performs, he'll bring a whole bottle out, he'll neck the bottle, pause. And people always would say, oh, that's water. You know, it's an antic. I believe that at one point as well. I think that was liquor last night because. And I think he. But I said, I think he knows that people say that. Which is why before he. Down the bottle, he had the. The. The young take the shot.

[Big Freeze]

Okay.

[Ish]

And his reaction told me, oh, it's definitely water. That wasn't water.

[Big Freeze]

It was a Little bottle. So, I mean, you know, it's still

[Ish]

crazy, but still bottle. But he started with the cost of me, the classic Azul bottle to the neck for a. To drink that straight down, I think.

[Mona]

But that's really his thing. They. They were in the comments like, oh, he should take 4C bottles to the head. And was really like, oh, we know it's water now. That's why it's like, it was just stupid. Like, whether it's water or not, who gives a. Clearly it's not water when he picks that girl up and begins to dry fuck her on the stage.

[Ish]

And also to the point of where it was like, Game seemed like he was. YG was his favorite rapper performing his songs and stuff. It looked more like Game kind of early on, knew YG's records and knew where they were, they would perform better.

[Ish's friend]

So.

[Ish]

So I'm not really me versus you.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna be a hater.

[Ish]

I'm not gonna do that. Make it seem like, you know what I'm saying. I saw Whack tweet post something before the verses and was like, yo, this is a setup. I don't even know why Game took this verses. Because what he said. Larry Jackson owns complex.

[Big Freeze]

Okay.

[Ish]

I'm sorry for not Larry.

[Flip]

He's basically saying the fix was in.

[Ish]

The fix was in. He was like. He was like, they're gonna clip up all of this and make it look like game one on social media and all this is before thing took place.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So it's, like, trying to get ahead of it. I think they knew we can't really win this in this building, so they

[Flip]

did the right thing. I mean, they made. They made it a celebration.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Flip]

They went to celebration mode.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Quick. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Joe Button]

Before we go on, I want to come back.

[Flip]

What's up?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Can we get rid of that can Hip.

[Joe Button]

Not we, because that's y' all Hip hop can.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Why do y' all think that?

[Joe Button]

Want to watch y' all go from sober to drunk?

[Mona]

What you mean?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where is that entertaining?

[Ish's friend]

Is that a thing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, only in hip hop, where these niggas run to the center of the stage, chug a whole leader or some shit. Niggas is supposed to fucking bravo you killing it, and now we gotta watch you be stupid drunk for the rest of the night. I'm not just talking about Game.

[Ish]

I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause by the end of it, Game and YG was fucking.

[Big Freeze]

They was twisted.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They were gone.

[Ish]

YG paced a little bit better, though. He Even told Game like, yo, yo, you faded right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I've been saying this since fucking crooked eye used to do this shit. I do not understand. Understand rappers thinking that. That's the thing. Can it stop?

[Flip]

Yeah, it's not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, you're doing a show. You one of the best. I'm looking at the TV saying, yo, these is two of the illest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Joe Button]

I'm.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm. I'm having a blast with the contrast in sound and the streaming error versus when you had to go to the store. Like, cuz them game records, I don't know how people felt about them. For me, dumb records are still some of the hardest records in the world.

[Ish]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Big Freeze]

I would say it would also stop rapping over vocals, but that's my nerd.

[Ish's friend]

That was the worst part.

[Big Freeze]

That was a. Sounded a mess at the beginning. Yo, drink later and get instrumentals.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Drink when the job is over, when it's done. Or at least drink, but just don't get hammered.

[Ish]

The part that really fucked me up about that Game is on tour right now, right? Opening for Wayne. This doesn't help you. For people who might not. I'm saying for people who might not know and oh shit, like now this don't do you no. Like, oh, shit. Game killed it. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna make sure we catch the tour too. This really doesn't help you too much.

[Mona]

That's a good point. If he would have smashed it, it would have been a seller point for.

[Ish]

Use this as like an advertisement. I'm currently on tour with Wayne, who another one who hit or miss with the performances. Now people are like, all right, you know what? I might not even catch this.

[Mona]

He look crazy humping the girl. He looked kind of crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, no.

[Joe Button]

We get to that, we know we ain't there yet.

[Ish]

No, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The other thing I'm confused about is like, I watched the old verses, but where's gang came from?

[Flip]

Compton.

[Joe Button]

Like, where is he from? Cedar Block, right?

[Flip]

Bompton.

[Joe Button]

Excuse me.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Ish]

Yeah, he's from cedar block Block. He claims Brazilian.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, is that like a member Thing to do is tell me every other

[Joe Button]

second where you from.

[Mona]

Yeah, yeah, but he just told us

[Mark Lamont Hill]

a 30 seconds ago where he was from.

[Mona]

And it's also written on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, see the block bumped and y' all know how I'm rocking. I'm like, yeah, get, get him next song, yo.

[Ice]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See the block.

[Ish]

I'm like, yo, you know what?

[Mona]

It's blood.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I know.

[Mona]

Then he's shouting his blood.

[Ish]

And it's different. It's different bloods from here, from there, Different. All that type of shit. Also, what I do think, going back to Kendrick's Pop Out.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I went to the fridge and threw all the ketchup in the garbage. Nigga,

[Ish]

look, going back to Kendrick's pop out, where you had all these niggas from all these different sets and all that up, their game was missing. So to him, this is his version of.

[Flip]

Of.

[Ish]

I got all. I mean, it's all blood, but this is my version of. I got all these gang members on stage. Yeah, we here too. We act all of that type of. Keep trying to.

[Joe Button]

He got a lot of songs, yo.

[Ish]

He does.

[Joe Button]

He got a lot of songs. I thought that the longer it went, Game started to come alive a little bit.

[Big Freeze]

The second half, he was much better.

[Flip]

He was much better performing and song.

[Big Freeze]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

Wise.

[Flip]

Yeah, I. I had this going 11, and I said I thought it'd be like 11 to nine something around there. And I think Game at his best could have come away with a loss at like, 11, 9. But I think he started off way too slow. I think. I think the song choices and the energy and the performances, that's the other thing I. I just didn't like. I just didn't like. I didn't love either. In terms of the overall performance. What y' all think about the back. The back end? Like, the background vocals and stuff that was on. Because Games had backing, right.

[Ish]

So Game had backing on some and TV tracks on the other.

[Joe Button]

Where.

[Ish]

Where basically he can wrap the bar, stop, and then let the vocal finish the bar for him to keep his breath control going.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So. And that's harder when you're drunk.

[Flip]

And that's.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. No, everything is harder when you're drunk.

[Ish]

Standing up was hard.

[Joe Button]

Everything is very tough.

[Ish]

I don't get hip hop.

[Joe Button]

You take away from your own superpower.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't get it.

[Flip]

But whatever. Anyway.

[Joe Button]

Anyway, Game is about to play his d' Angelo record. Lady.

[Ish]

All that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So the dj. I forgot her name.

[Ish]

Charisma.

[Joe Button]

Charisma. Charisma. Shout out to Charisma.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The DJ is like, all right, y', all, before we get started, all the sexy ladies to the front. All right. That's when I sat up.

[Big Freeze]

Shut up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Because if y' all gonna find some sexy ladies in this mess, I want to see it. I've been watching for an hour and a half. I ain't seen a walk by at all.

[Ish's friend]

Long hair.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So now Charisma must Have felt the same way, cuz. She was like, all right, I'm giving it a sec. Come on y. Hey, Digo, a little corner over there. Come on, y'. All. Come on, y'.

[Ice]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I was like, you know what?

[Joe Button]

Ain't no sexy here. And sure enough, they felt some little sexy Mexicans, cuz, you know, in la, it's la. You know, they still do the paper. Paper bag. Paper bag out there, you know?

[Ish]

You know, they say the same thing about New York when it comes to how New York and Dominican women and Puerto Rican women, they say the same.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

Just so you know, that makes sense.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I did not know that.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Ish's friend]

Makes sense though.

[Ish]

And it's a very valid no for

[Mona]

the clubs in New York that only bar maids are dark skinned, saying all you got to be foreign to dance. That's what they say about New York City for facts.

[Joe Button]

Well, that's a fact about New York City. But who thinks that New York are not black women?

[Ish]

No, who think la. Not black women.

[Mona]

Oh, I'm talking about.

[Ish]

And I'm telling you that they think New York is Dominican women and Puerto Rican women. Because that's what talk about all the time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

La. I promise you that is the thing. Black girls up here.

[Joe Button]

He might be right.

[Ish]

Because.

[Joe Button]

Because they say that about me, so. Yeah, you might be right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm telling you, they did say that about you.

[Mona]

They said that the ain't half rice and bean. You don't want it.

[Big Freeze]

They said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that couldn't be further from.

[Flip]

I can vouch for that, cuz.

[Mona]

Put that to bed though. Go ahead. Put your black queen.

[Ice]

Freeze. You try to slip it in.

[Ish]

Freeze.

[Ice]

When the ghost came in, you had no other choice. You had no choice. You talk about. Yeah, your history was a little shaky at first, but she cleaned you up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But that's not true.

[Ice]

She low key.

[Mona]

Look.

[Ice]

She from Trinidad. But she cleaned you up. Yeah, she cleaned you up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, her hair curl up, but I don't.

[Mona]

Ponytail was curly. I said, wait a minute now.

[Ice]

She cleaned up.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But wait. But I know why they say that about me.

[Joe Button]

I know why they say that about me. Because all of the shit that has been public has been that Dana.

[Flip]

But behind the scenes. That's what I'm saying, cuz.

[Ice]

Yeah, but Trey Bomb is black.

[Joe Button]

Yes. There. I don't think people can women all through my sexual.

[Ice]

She's not black history. You made a face.

[Mona]

I'm not Trey mother black.

[Ice]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Mona]

You know, first baby mom always black.

[Ice]

He lived with her and all that. It was her Crib.

[Mona]

The first baby mama beat you up, too. Let's move on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So they.

[Joe Button]

So they.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So they brought the girls up there

[Joe Button]

all wearing red, naturally.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Game bring them up there, cuz it's game.

[Joe Button]

Song, game. Get the dance. They spin them around. Hey, hey, nice. I'm in the career. I tweet, hey, I'm doing my.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In my bag.

[Joe Button]

His song ends the stay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's how it goes. Why it's yg? Because I'm a nigga. I already know what YG thinking.

[Big Freeze]

We.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We've all been. Hey. So YG turns on.

[Ish]

Come on, slob. He say, all right, you had the

[Joe Button]

vibes for you going.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You're not gonna keep the vibes over there, right?

[Joe Button]

Like, can we. Can we share?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, can I get some? Can they come over here? Because when they came on stage, Gaines said, I'm taking this one. And took the little one that might have been cute out the bunch, left YG to be with some. So YG try to get his. I get the vibes. Game said, sure, but he didn't mean sure.

[Joe Button]

That was like an Imani sure.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He didn't really mean sure. So when the girls tried to make their way to yg, Game grabs the girl, the one YG won.

[Mona]

No, he didn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes, the fuck he did. The one that all the black niggas is saying, if I have to fuck one of these girls, it's gonna be that one. Game grabbed her hand. Now YG got do the song.

[Joe Button]

So I'm laughing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm like, this ain't over yet. And sure enough, it wasn't over. Game do its own.

[Joe Button]

Now you got to hump the cuz.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Now he done drunk the Don Julio, cuz Now he going, that's a killer. So now you got a dry hump gyrate. Now he this girl on the stage.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

In front of the Apple camera.

[Joe Button]

Cut quick.

[Ish]

Are shown the DJ move.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I gotta tip my hat to Apple. Yo, Apple, Y' all might as well get ready to show us Billy Ray Cyrus versus Kid Rock.

[Flip]

Oh, no.

[Ish]

They're in the meeting right now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, we gonna get some white versus hey, you. Y' all gonna learn to keep niggering. Y' all can't nigger everywhere and think that will continue to be able to. It is over.

[Ish]

Like, somebody text me, they want culture until they get the culture.

[Mona]

That shit didn't look good. It just looked. It looked drunk and too freaky. He like a freaked out unk. I didn't like it.

[Flip]

I didn't. I didn't like it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So then Game is doing. He stopped the music early. He do a Nipsey tribute. Rest in peace, Nipsey. Shout out to Black Stam. All of that, right?

[Ish]

So he start.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He start doing his Nipsey tribute. And he bring out what one Crip.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

One blue hat center stage.

[Joe Button]

The nigga start dancing. Her son talking about, oh, shit, I

[Mark Lamont Hill]

thought they was about to kill this. I thought he was about to witness a body, one blue hat, dancing around.

[Joe Button]

But then I said, oh, they doing a Nipsey tribute. That mean YG might do his Nipsey record. It's gonna get dark. And sure enough. What happened?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And it got dark.

[Ish]

It got midnight.

[Joe Button]

It got dark. I mean, that was just a bad. That was just bad. That one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That.

[Ish]

That was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That round was bad from a couple of them. I know.

[Ish]

Wherever you can go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I.

[Ish's friend]

You can't.

[Ish]

It doesn't compare.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Game would not let go of the.

[Big Freeze]

Yo, Tequila boy.

[Mona]

He was drunk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo. But I feel like tequila should. Shouldn't make you hold them hostage. Why? Why don't share. You don't know them. Share the hoes. That's what they there for. Why is a room full of men sucking their teeth?

[Flip]

I mean, explain it to me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm not from that cloth. I don't know that Joe.

[Flip]

Joe Jojo. That's what he's about to say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go ahead.

[Ice]

All right. Explain it to me.

[Flip]

I speak ish.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw it right there. I have been out with Joe.

[Big Freeze]

But there may have been tequila involved at some point in life.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's when I was trying to the stomach dancer at the belly dancer chick at. At Melody.

[Big Freeze]

You understand? You may have blacked those days out.

[Ice]

You try to do that history a lot. Your history reach back far enough. Rewrite a lot of in. In real time too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't feel like that handcuff. His memory bad as he.

[Ice]

That too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's his line, right?

[Ish]

That's how you get out of it.

[Mona]

No, you did my memory bad.

[Ish]

My memory bad.

[Mona]

Can't tell you what you did back.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We'll hit you with the.

[Ish]

On my memory.

[Joe Button]

Okay, well, listen, because y' all are my friends, I'm open minded. I don't want to be stubborn. If y' all are saying that that used to happen, then God damn it, that used to happen. What I'm saying is to watch it.

[Ice]

It only look good.

[Big Freeze]

It doesn't look good.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. When you in there and hey, maybe keeping the. That's cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But to see it as a bystander, it looked different.

[Ice]

Game was Too gangster for me. He was threatening the camera. Like, I felt it through the screen. I felt a part of blood at one point, the way he was talking to the screen. I'm like, hi, Su. Whoop. Hi. What set am I dealing with? He was just. Every minute. He gave a speech every minute. Mid song. And your charisma.

[Mona]

Stop.

[Ice]

I'm like, oh, come on, let the record play. Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Stop.

[Ish]

Gotta let you know where I'm from.

[Ice]

Those game records. Like, I'm with Joe on that. Those game records. I don't think people understand. I was vibing to the game records. YG was cool. I with yg, I got it that he won. But you had to be there in the moment for what it did in that moment.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Free was outside them game records.

[Ish's friend]

ISIS point in L. La, where they were. Them songs hit different.

[Ice]

I said, Game one, cuz. YG's chewing at us in the East. Yo, come move out here.

[Ish]

He move out there. He talking to transplants.

[Ice]

N. I don't give a like us. I'm like watching we with you.

[Ish]

He sitting like, talking about the transplants. Talk about trying to move around out there in la.

[Ice]

Who. Who was the trying to move out there? Right?

[Mona]

That's common.

[Ish]

New York moving to Atlanta. New York is moving everywhere but New York now.

[Ice]

Yeah, What I'm saying is that.

[Ish]

But he's specifically talking about the. That on like, that shit's on a spot. And it didn't move there because try

[Ice]

to move around because of the things that were happening to some of the artists that went out there. We started on la, but then we were just doing that out of anger. That was temporarily. We were losing.

[Ish]

Like he said in his record, don't come to la. Don't come to la.

[Ice]

Nah, man, we gotta come to la. Don't laugh.

[Joe Button]

Come to LA is not realistic.

[Ice]

You have to go to la.

[Ish]

Don't shit on la, then go to la.

[Joe Button]

Well, I wouldn't be shitting on LA anyway.

[Ish]

So he's not like. Well, I'm explaining the flip. Then he's not talking to you.

[Joe Button]

Well, he was talking about New York niggas that go out there and take

[Ish]

their bitches that go out there shitting on la, move out there and now you trying to move around. Nah, N. Seen what you said. That's anywhere, though.

[Joe Button]

Back to y' all point about whatever y' all said to yg. I'm not leaving this point with flip. I don't think none of that YG shit is even possible without what Gang Game did.

[Mona]

Facts. That's a fact.

[Ish]

That's a fact. Nobody's watching.

[Flip]

Say that too.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ice]

What I'm saying is it's more important if.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you were there for the game run.

[Joe Button]

And I hate to be Caveman.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You had to be.

[Ice]

Let's go.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But those Dr. Dre beats were the

[Joe Button]

hardest Dr. Dre beats ever in 2005. Oh, my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

New York. Nothing you could do with those beats. And an aggressive rhyming. Then he had Nate Dog on Mad hooks like, rest in peace, Nate Dog. But he was trying to explain to the people the importance of Nate Dog is just like, yo, But I was home, like, wow. Wow.

[Ice]

You know what I realized? I don't think that we give enough credit to the game at 50 run the G unit Run.

[Joe Button]

Why?

[Ice]

Because it meant something that's in this room.

[Joe Button]

Don't give G Unit enough.

[Ice]

No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is that. No, I'm talking about the people. 50 was an east coast put on the west coast, nigga. That's how it looked, right? And you could see when the 50 records came on how all them niggas up there performed. They were singing along with it. These are gangsters, so that mean it meant something. They really looked the game at. At this moment or when this shit came out, nigga, this meant something to us.

[Ish]

California on his.

[Ice]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ish]

But we don't. That's real.

[Ice]

He said that, though, because it's muddied the water between him and Fifth. I don't think they really understand how that run was important to hip hop. Just watching all them up there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, you saying him and Fifth. It might be him and Dre.

[Ice]

You think it's him and Dre?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, if him and Dre were flying. Got it, Got it. Okay.

[Ice]

Him and Dre.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People may look at.

[Joe Button]

Well, yeah. Cause he gonna be at the Pop Out. He gonna be. There's certain opportunities that are gonna be there. He gonna be in Boyz.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You gonna see game.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Not see him like you see him today, which is, yeah, you had them slaps back then, but now what?

[Ice]

I can't be controlled. That's what he's playing.

[Ish]

And to YG's credit, which is one on his. On his. One of his early records. Hey, I got something to say. I'm the only nigga made it out the west without Dre. Like, I didn't need that. I couldn't get that. You got that. It's like when Fab saying, I came in this game with no Dr. Dre. No beat from Diddy.

[Flip]

No.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying? Like some niggas, y' all was able to get ushered in by greatness. And some of us had to go the other route. And we still up here.

[Mice]

So.

[Ish]

Yeah, I'mma boast on that. I'mma brag on that part.

[Mona]

I have a question. It might be a little off topic. Do. Does it make the verses not as fun when people are friendly towards each other? Like, how they were. Like, is it not as good if it's not?

[Joe Button]

Everybody in America wanted them to be friendly last night. Nobody wanted nothing.

[Mona]

One of my favorite verses was because of bad behavior, the Gucci and.

[Flip]

Yeah, I mean, that was legendary.

[Mona]

It was horrible behavior. Right?

[Flip]

You know, but more like.

[Ish]

I mean, that's.

[Flip]

Some people want to snoop some of the great ones. I mean, I love Snoop and dmx and that was all love. I love them on the R B side. A lot of the R B ones have been friendly, like the old heads.

[Mona]

Like, Patty ones should be friendly.

[Flip]

Yeah, they should. But sometime it be some quiet beats.

[Ish]

Tell that to Tyrese.

[Flip]

Yeah, please. I think it's just. I think the performance just has to be good. And for me, the one last night was a little too much inside baseball. It felt like if you not like watching two and a half hours of Blood of LA and LA party music and blood talk, like, after a while, it was exhausting to me. I only finished watching it for the show.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I almost turned it off at some point. I was blooded out, right? Because I gotta go to bed.

[Joe Button]

I'm in my living room with my family. So now I go to bed. Now it's cuddle time. But I still cut it off. So now I'm cuddling to this bloodshed.

[Ish]

It's also all right for people to be like, yo, this one ain't for me. Like, they. They did. They did. No, no disrespect. They did RZA and pr. That wasn't for me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They did.

[Ish]

What was it? Bounty Killer and.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, Beanie, Man.

[Joe Button]

That's one of the best ones.

[Ish]

My point still stand versus for me. So I didn't say nothing about it. I didn't even watch it go to Starbucks.

[Ice]

You didn't watch that one?

[Ish]

No, I didn't. I don't know any songs. I don't listen to this.

[Ice]

You Jamaican.

[Ish]

Listen, my point is, what do you say to that?

[Mona]

Why? Go on. I didn't know you was Jamaican.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't try to hide

[Ish]

that. That's. That's my speak.

[Mona]

A little patan boy, he speak more than me. So your father's Jamaican?

[Ish]

My father and his entire family are all.

[Mona]

Do you understand patois?

[Ish]

No.

[Mona]

You can't speak it or understand.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't with. No.

[Ish's friend]

You ain't here with that nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He don't with the culture.

[Ish's friend]

The farthest Jamaican he goes go as

[Ish]

oxtails with white rice. Don't forget.

[Joe Button]

Do me a favor, don't say oxtails again.

[Ice]

Hold that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't do me a favor.

[Joe Button]

Don't say that again.

[Mona]

Did we ever get to the bottom of that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, we. He going to say whatever he want to rehash.

[Big Freeze]

Come on.

[Ice]

He go crazy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I do have something that I want to rehash in.

[Joe Button]

In hour two with Mark, but we.

[Flip]

We.

[Joe Button]

We'll get to that.

[Ish]

Anything ain't for Everybody in this E40 ain't too short. Majority of you might know a couple E40 records. A couple. You didn't know them shits that they was playing from out here. If you didn't.

[Joe Button]

If.

[Ish]

That's if you don't subscribe to Bay Area.

[Ice]

I was so shook on the screen, right? They was so blooded out. That the YG records I didn't know.

[Ish]

I act like I knew him.

[Ice]

Oh, yeah. I ain't know none of them shits. I act like I knew.

[Ish]

I was in the crib.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hurt every single day, the light flashing red.

[Ice]

I'm like, okay, there's a lot of going on here. I don't understand what's going on, but there's some to mind programming to me. I was that me up when the light started blinking. I'm like, hold on, let me turn the.

[Ish]

She got a little too blood with big. Big Boy walk out. They throw the flag on Big Boy like

[Ice]

he just DM me too. He said, flip, please, why you put that video out?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Word.

[Ish]

Big word.

[Ice]

Fucked up nigga.

[Mona]

Move.

[Ice]

Big Boy. You cursing and you around gangsters. I didn't know Big Boy was like that. He mad professional. While I watch him, he's mad professional. I didn't know Big Boy be with gangsters saying and. And all that. I didn't know that he cussed.

[Mona]

Yeah, Big Boy cuss.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't no Big boy curse.

[Ice]

I ain't. That's like Sway cursing. I don't hardly hear Sway curse. Sway don't curse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sway don't curse.

[Ish]

Get serious, Radio, don't lie on them

[Mona]

n. I was watching Sway when he was on mcv.

[Ish]

You remember? You remember what Sway told Kanye? Yo, we can cut these cameras off. And you know that was a Real

[Ice]

so shocked because we. I was shocked. That didn't fit Sway's character.

[Joe Button]

Well, it don't fit his New York character from up here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just found that out.

[Ice]

This ain't from the bed.

[Joe Button]

All of them.

[Ice]

Listen, Joe them tried to call Ebro on stage. He ain't dumb.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ebro was like, nope, come up here. You back in la. I hear Ebro.

[Ish]

Smart, smart Ebro up there with a red rag on.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is Apple music.

[Joe Button]

That's why it pay to just right if you not a tough guy. Like, I never tried to emulate something that wasn't. And it's because I can look at a situation situation and insert myself and know when I would die, which is that versus. I just kept putting myself at different parts of the crowd.

[Ish]

And the way Joe moved.

[Joe Button]

They killed me over there. So these will kill me, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, right.

[Ish]

There's what the stomping would have started.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I gotta give these. Probably the most impressive thing to me wasn't even the verses. It was them resetting the stage.

[Ish]

Yo, I've never seen that happen before.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That fast, bro.

[Ish]

Yo, everybody step back. We gotta clear the stage. Niggas just moved like three times. Try that shit somewhere else.

[Ice]

You too.

[Ish]

You step back to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, listen. Well. Because on both sides.

[Joe Button]

And again, I'll move on. But on both sides, it appeared like there were very high ranking important members.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I don't think these functions could happen without that. Yo. Shout out to the very important high ranking members. Yeah, colleagues. For real. And they kept introducing. Hey, this is motherfucking OGC logo. I was like, all right, I'm glad He's here.

[Ish]

Hey, Mr. Cedar.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, he don't even be on camera, look.

[Joe Button]

Hitting the.

[Ice]

Hitting the OG like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That. Yes, the homeboy that. Yo, he don't even be come up. Had to make him come in the back. Yo, please, yo. God, this the only I answer to right here. The rest of you there. And I'm looking at him like. Makes sense.

[Ish]

And he look like it. I would answer too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It makes sense.

[Ish]

Anyone up there just cool.

[Joe Button]

It makes sense.

[Ish]

Yeah, him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had to. And that looked tall. I forgot Game was tall. Game tall. And it was that look.

[Ish]

He didn't look tall because all them is tall.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, don't do another.

[Joe Button]

We don't have no more, like gang member verses that need to happen.

[Ish]

Right? We got.

[Big Freeze]

There's still something.

[Ish]

It's still a couple.

[Mona]

He should have did the song I'm on. That's why he lost

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to game.

[Big Freeze]

Indeed.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shout out to y. Shout out to yg. Y' all two dudes are.

[Joe Button]

Them.

[Ish]

RJ up there. Shout out to rj.

[Joe Button]

The fans won. LA won. The members won. You. Y' all did it, y'.

[Flip]

All.

[Ish's friend]

It was good, too.

[Joe Button]

Y' all did it.

[Flip]

Then they did.

[Ish]

Then they went full out. I ain't never seen this one before. Right before the verses dropped, game and YG drop a song together. Produced by Swiss Beats and Timberland.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

That was crazy.

[Ish]

That was the. That was.

[Flip]

I didn't actually listen to the song. I saw you put in the group chat.

[Ish]

I listened to the song song, though.

[Flip]

What you think I.

[Ish]

With it? I mean, it was. I knew what it was for. It's not nothing. I'm gonna keep religious. It wasn't bad, but it's cool. But I understood the purpose of the song.

[Joe Button]

Got it. Do you guys know that Will Feral Son is making music?

[Mona]

Yeah, and it's good. It's like neo soulish.

[Joe Button]

I know, man. Look how fast people get. And you got one little neo soul song that black people is fucking with. The rest of that shit sound like some pop party, but it's hard. It sounds.

[Mona]

Well, that's the only one I heard. The only song I heard was the Neil Soul.

[Ish's friend]

He sound like Robin Thin.

[Joe Button]

He ain't bad on the one song. You can tell when black people get a hold of some shit. But no, I bought the song.

[Ish]

So this is his name.

[Joe Button]

This is Magnus.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Magnus Pharrell.

[Joe Button]

I mean, Pharrell.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And this is the neo soul song that black people.

[Joe Button]

People are gravitating toward. Yeah. No, this song is definitely Robin Thick Bob. But I went to listen to the rest of his stuff.

[Flip]

I didn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay, I didn't.

[Mona]

I heard this one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, if you make some fire, the

[Joe Button]

first thing I'm going do is go listen to.

[Mona]

Hey,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

N. This is hard right here. It's a little joint.

[Ish's friend]

It. It would have been one of my sleepers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, let's go, Magn.

[Joe Button]

But the rest of that is like. I play some snippets.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So not bad for what it's trying to be, huh?

[Mice]

Don't.

[Big Freeze]

Don't sound bad for what it's trying to be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And none of it is bad. None of it is this bad.

[Ish]

This one sound like. Like Bruno Venus.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It sound like a who. Dad got some money and he's with

[Joe Button]

some people with no music and he's

[Mark Lamont Hill]

throwing at every box.

[Big Freeze]

I don't see no big names on this, though. Pause.

[Ish's friend]

If necessary, he still could have paid for access.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, baby.

[Ish's friend]

You know what I'm Saying.

[Ish]

But that don't always work. Yeah, I remember.

[Ish's friend]

No, he probably. He talented.

[Ish]

I remember Tommy Hilfiger son.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Remember that run?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What Tommy Hilfiger did.

[Big Freeze]

His son. His son Trip was making music.

[Ish]

Trying to make music a couple years back.

[Joe Button]

What was his name?

[Ish]

Rich Hill.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I don't remember that at all.

[Flip]

Exactly.

[Ish]

That's the point.

[Big Freeze]

His nephew made music. Okay.

[Ish]

No. Not bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was just shocked. I was just shocked. That's it.

[Joe Button]

I don't have.

[Ish's friend]

When I first heard, I was like,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I have no take about it.

[Joe Button]

Just that Will Ferrell's son. I'd be so surprised when sons is doing shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't know why.

[Ish]

Or when they do something.

[Ish's friend]

Something against what, you know, they father

[Ish]

to be like, if he was in the movies.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Or comedy. Be like, all right, cool.

[Flip]

What's the other dude whose son?

[Ish's friend]

Tom Hanks.

[Flip]

Chet Hanks is an interesting kid.

[Ish's friend]

Like, it's just so.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you want to exchange Chet Hanks stories.

[Flip]

I do not. I'll listen to yours, though.

[Joe Button]

It'll turn this up. So I ain't gonna do it.

[Flip]

That's just. Why?

[Joe Button]

Because then the fans will go find the people that's involved in the story. But if you want to talk, I gotta.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Chad Hanks was.

[Joe Button]

Listen.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Pandemic Days. Everybody was on Clubhouse, buddy. Everybody was on Clubhouse. Chad was on there.

[Joe Button]

They were stepping his business about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, hey, what's up? What's up with all that? What's up with all that appropriation, boy?

[Joe Button]

But anyway, Chet like the sisters.

[Mice]

He do.

[Joe Button]

Chad liked the sister also.

[Big Freeze]

You guys related?

[Flip]

Chad likes the sister.

[Joe Button]

Chad likes the sisters. No, we. We are not related. There's no way to do almost.

[Big Freeze]

Almost related sounds like a.

[Ice]

Come on.

[Joe Button]

A near miss. Yeah, no, I kick that out my house anyways.

[Big Freeze]

What time is it, Joe?

[Ish's friend]

Yo, fix your nails.

[Ice]

Ain't nothing wrong with your fingers. What's wrong with you?

[Joe Button]

Yo, that was on one. And we're gonna get to the project. That was one of them breakups where your girl that broke up with you is not speaking to you. And you know y' all are gonna get back together, but you don't know how yet. Cause y' all not speaking. And the guy. The girl don't know, but the guy in that role, it's a pivotal role, because at some point, bitches gonna start trying to fuck him. And if you fuck the wrong one, then that may inter. Interrupt you getting back with. Yeah, so it was one of those, man. So no, man. No shout out to Chad Hanks. No, we're not Eskimo brothers. I believe he's Eskimo brothers with one of y' all in here, though.

[Big Freeze]

I'm sure.

[Ish's friend]

I think so.

[Joe Button]

I believe it. I believe. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Big Freeze]

I think so. That boy.

[Joe Button]

I think so.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Look at freeze.

[Flip]

Not me.

[Ish]

Oh, no.

[Ish's friend]

It ain't me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You.

[Ice]

No.

[Ish]

Okay, that I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just checking. Ah, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. No prizes. Oh, y' all keep that energy in seven months. Yo, cuz, the last few vlogs

[Ish]

a

[Ice]

year ago you said that. Said the same a year ago. Yo, y. Keep it up the year fruit at the end of the tunnel. You said that before.

[Mona]

Stop.

[Ice]

Stop recycling this. Remember what you said?

[Joe Button]

My memory is better.

[Ice]

Yeah, I know. I know.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't touch that down. We'll be right back. All right, the summer of soccer is in the rear view.

[Joe Button]

And you can still make all of your summer sports picks right here on prize picks.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Preseason football is kicking off and the

[Joe Button]

WNBA and baseball are heating up. Throw in the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

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[Joe Button]

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[Ish]

every year, you get to.

[Joe Button]

You get to pick where you want to pick. Dude that had the first pick took. Took the fourth pick. So now it's me on the clock. I call up Keeb. Keeb fucked me last year wanting to pick 7 instead of 9. I like the later rounds. Keeb says let's stay where we at. So I stayed at 2.

[Ish's friend]

Why didn't take one?

[Joe Button]

Cause I'm fine with either player that I want at 2. I want the better. I want the better pick on the comeback. I want to be of in front of him.

[Ish's friend]

That makes sense.

[Joe Button]

I want to be in front of him when to come back. So I pick two.

[Ice]

But then.

[Ish's friend]

But no but it starts to hurt you in the. In the later rounds.

[Joe Button]

I mean I feel like it balances out cuz I think.

[Ish's friend]

I think the boot boot is better than the boot. Wait to then boop again.

[Joe Button]

See, not for me. I got ADD or some. I be needing that little 90 seconds. That little two minutes in between 20

[Ish's friend]

picks to pick your.

[Joe Button]

I need to go. I need to go.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah, I'll take the two.

[Joe Button]

I need time.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Five, six, Listen, prize picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is pick two or more players, look at their projected stat line, and pick more or

[Joe Button]

less for your chance to win big. Come on, man. A lot of Sixer games out there for you guys to load up on. Look at these Sixer fans in here.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Anyway, listen, let me give you the ish pixels the week. I don't know if he's hitting a

[Joe Button]

while, but he's consistent with the pick, so I'll just read them to you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Ish is going with. Yo, I feel like he trolled me with you. He always send me some.

[Joe Button]

He know I can't read, bro.

[Ish's friend]

Jersey City ain't my fault.

[Joe Button]

Oh, you mean it's America, nigga. It ain't New Jersey City. Americans can't read no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Saya Suzuki. For more than five and a half fantasy scores.

[Joe Button]

You must must be a ball Nolan grenade. Oh, now I'm sound like Mike Tyson.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, he must be a Nolan grenade. For more than four and a half fantasy score. Taylor Ward. For more than five fantasy score. And Starling Marte.

[Joe Button]

I've been watching sports all my life and don't know who stalling Martez.

[Big Freeze]

Who the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

For more than three fantasy score.

[Joe Button]

All right, it's trying to hit. It's supposed to be trying to win.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

He putting some trash on n. Hey, hey, Starling. If you can't get three, you're done.

[Ish]

Yo, that's baseball. Yeah, so it's.

[Joe Button]

Oh, it's baseball.

[Ish]

Yeah, that's baseball. WNBA is.

[Ish's friend]

Was it all WNBA all star weekend in Chicago. So shout out to all of them that made the all star team.

[Ish]

Yeah, you got to play baseball. That fantasy score, it could be. You can have zero all game one at bat. Next thing you know, they got eight.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, got it. Okay, I understand now. Yeah. Listen, please, if y' all would be so kind, if you think of something

[Mark Lamont Hill]

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[Joe Button]

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[Mark Lamont Hill]

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[Joe Button]

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[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, we have some new additions to the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

[Joe Button]

Let me get my round of applause button ready. I'm so overwhelmed with joy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, come on. Now we have none other than Charlemagne Degas added to the Hollywood. Come on, make some noise out there. Keep this applause going. That's been Charlamagne De God has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Charlemagne. Well earned, well deserved. Congratulations. I couldn't be happier for you.

[Joe Button]

Now

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Kiki Palmer also has a star

[Joe Button]

on the Hollywood Walk with vain. Make. Make some noise.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well deserved.

[Flip]

Late.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go.

[Joe Button]

Who else?

[Flip]

Mark, I need some. I, I need some. Some more speed with that clap.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This was your topic. You. You made me say Charlemagne.

[Flip]

I was going to. I, I only wrote Charlemagne on the board, cuz. I just want to shout him out. I'm so proud of him.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I'm super happy.

[Flip]

I have, I have so much love and admiration for people who work hard, who grind. Some people get handed, you know, an advantage, some people don't. Some people have to work from a disadvantage. And from him being from fucking Moss Point. It's not Moss Point. What's the name of his Moncks Creek Monks.

[Joe Button]

Monk's Corner.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Moncks Corner.

[Flip]

Monks Corner, South Carolina.

[Joe Button]

Moncks Corner, South Carolina.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

On a dirt road. You know what I mean? You know, you coming up in the business, no fancy degrees, no hookup. And to just grind and to grow into what he has become, I think is extreme. The other thing about Charlamagne that I love and the thing that I appreciate about him and why I'm comfortable calling him a friend is that I've watched him grow as a human being. I've watched him become a better person year after year. He takes criticism, he listens, he's self critical. And I've watched him be accountable for things and I've watched him.

[Joe Button]

That's my, that's my favorite thing about it. Like, that's a really important point that you're bringing up. Outside of all he's accomplished professionally, watching him grow as, as a person.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

How can you not appreciate? I take great pride in when I stop talking to niggas, they change who they are. What you saying?

[Flip]

Who did ish become?

[Joe Button]

No. You ain't tricking me. Nope. Same, same, same og Same, same OG Ain't change not changed a bit.

[Flip]

My man Kiki Palmer surprises me a little bit. Not that she. Not that she got it come. No, no. I'm more walking the other way. I'm saying I thought Kiki deserved it

[Mark Lamont Hill]

long before she got a new show with Oprah.

[Flip]

I mean, that's kind of a thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Or Michelle Obama, she got some new show to sticking out. I don't give a.

[Flip]

Her new show is smoking people.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What? Is that what this is based on?

[Ice]

What?

[Joe Button]

Somebody pull it up, read it because it's gonna sound like I'm hating.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And there's other names that we need to say. Don't y' all try to shut up. To get a Joe ISO. It ain't happening. Y' all say that's the Joe Biden podcast.

[Joe Button]

No, it ain't no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a pod

[Flip]

and be like Wu Tang. You see? You see that interview?

[Big Freeze]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Shout out to Rory and Peter Rosenberg. I saw the interview.

[Flip]

I got compared to Capadon. I don't know how I feel about that. But we'll come back, we'll revisit.

[Joe Button]

And that was a bad one for you. Capadonna. I don't know what Peter was doing with that.

[Flip]

I had to text Peter about that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, can somebody pull up AI?

[Joe Button]

I'm reading you're not a AI consultant.

[Ish]

Oh, yeah, I'm not. You want.

[Joe Button]

Come on, man. You know where we going.

[Ish]

To qualify for a star, a nominee generally needs at least five years of professional achievement in their field.

[Flip]

Boom.

[Ish]

Significant contributions to entertainment.

[Flip]

Boom.

[Ish]

Charitable slash community involvement is considered. The nominee must agree to attend the dedication ceremony. If selected, someone must submit a nomination application. Celebrities do not automatically receive stars. We know that a selection committee reviews hundreds of nominations and typically chooses around 20 to 30 honorees a year. If selected, a sponsorship fee is required. It covers the creation, installation of the star, maintenance of the Walk of Fame. The sponsor is often a studio, label, network, fan organization, or other affiliated group, not necessarily the celebrity. And selection does not guarantee immediate placement. The ceremony generally must be scheduled.

[Joe Button]

Super informative, but I still didn't hear the information.

[Ish]

And then there are six categories. So stars can currently receive. Excuse me. Achievement in motion pictures, television, recording, radio, live theater, slash performance, and sports entertainment.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, I still didn't hear that.

[Mona]

He wants to know like the requirements.

[Joe Button]

I want to know how much time you get for defacing one.

[Mice]

For what?

[Flip]

Wow. Okay, break this down for me, Joe.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz at some point I'mma be in LA vandalizing. Now that's where the tourists be. But I. I will go out of my way over there with to destroy. Come on, give me some of the tools.

[Joe Button]

Give me some of them.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

House me. Yeah, come on, give me the tools.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all I need.

[Joe Button]

A damn Kiki party.

[Mona]

Listen, listen, let's. First of all, that's a killing the be, bro. Like, you know, she could be a little annoying, but she is extremely talented.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's a fact.

[Mona]

It's not. There hasn't been nothing that she's done and it's like ass. I think the dropped the song before and it was all right.

[Joe Button]

It was.

[Mona]

Yeah, Kiki.

[Joe Button]

It was absolutely fine.

[Ice]

Shout out to Kiki Palmer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I'M serious.

[Mona]

She could do. I don't know. She can't do. That's the more the question.

[Ice]

And we just big her up. When she took the. When she spoke, when at the. Yeah, we just bigged her up.

[Mona]

Did y' all feel like that she deserved that job? Okay.

[Flip]

Yeah. I've just. I've just seen too much good from Kiki, including community stuff.

[Ice]

You never say nothing. I gotta look at my man face. He don't say nothing. Yo, is what you got to say about this, yo?

[Ish's friend]

Nothing.

[Ice]

You gave me that face. How you feel about Kiki Palmer?

[Ish's friend]

I don't have a feeling about Kiki Palmer.

[Ish]

I'm not saying nothing negative or positive. I don't.

[Ice]

So you. You come from the old school. You have nothing good to say, don't say it at all.

[Ish's friend]

I don't have anything bad to say about her either.

[Flip]

I tell you one thing, Flip Kiki. Kiki one of them people.

[Ish]

I'm gonna get you.

[Big Freeze]

Ish.

[Flip]

She. She. I may have said this before. I mean, I was in Ferguson with her one time.

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God. Yo,

[Flip]

is that bad?

[Ice]

Was in Ferguson with her front line, right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She was on the ground. Try it. Get out there and do something.

[Ice]

When the last. You was on the front line, boy?

[Joe Button]

No, my boy.

[Ice]

Yeah, at the.

[Ish's friend]

At the.

[Flip]

At the JZ show.

[Ice]

My son got me. My son. My son. He was on the line.

[Flip]

Yeah. No, I mean, I'm just saying, like, you talk about community engagement, too. I mean, like she said was great, man. Mike Brown got killed in. She was right there on the ground in Ferguson when they told us to leave. And the smoke bomb was what she

[Ice]

did when it was mason and spray.

[Flip]

Yes. I was standing next to her and I'm telling you. And her motherhood shout out to her mom when. When the smoke bombs came and the tear gas came, she. She stood ten toes like we getting locked up tonight.

[Joe Button]

On Fridays, y' all don't know it. Cause I didn't tell y'. All, but on Fridays I try to not bring in activism. Like, I don't want it getting Mona started. It's a whole corner where.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And somehow on the Walk of Fame comes. We get the Ferguson.

[Ice]

Let them get their shit off Ferguson because you.

[Flip]

Y' all over here slow clapping. Kiki. I'm saying she check all the boxes as well. Engagement?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no.

[Joe Button]

We never gonna handle how talented she is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Extremely talented.

[Flip]

What's the beef? I never. I feel like whenever she come up, there's always a subtext around here.

[Joe Button]

Mark, you asked me that and I Answered it flat out before. I'm not gonna answer it again right this second, but I've answered it flat out before.

[Flip]

That don't. I don't remember. See, I know what you said before that didn't connect to the Walk of Fame for me. That's why I was like, oh, no, it don't. Okay, okay, okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No connect at all.

[Flip]

Okay. That's why I was confused.

[Joe Button]

Hell, no.

[Flip]

Fair enough.

[Joe Button]

I just keep a few names there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know who else?

[Joe Button]

I feel like that's important as a podcaster.

[Flip]

Who else is on that list today?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Currently, some of them have disappeared.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, some names came off that list.

[Ish]

I watched it in real time. I watched them in real time disappear.

[Joe Button]

It used to be ASAP back in the day. Okay, asap. Some. The yams probably tweeted, emotional ass. Emotional ass. Joe Button.

[Mona]

Did y' all see that video that

[Ish]

went, rest in peace, yams?

[Mona]

What video with asap?

[Ish]

Which one?

[Mona]

It's like he's jogging and somebody's following him. A cameraman. But in the video, ASAP has his hands on his hips, so people are reposting it because of the way he's standing. But what stands out to me is the fact that this is following him while he jogging. He, like, jogging around New York, this following. So ASAP woke up. He's asking him, like, why are you following?

[Joe Button]

I'm about to say, they following the right one.

[Ice]

He swapping his man up there.

[Mona]

He run right down, and he asked him, and he's not. He's calling him brother, which I can appreciate. He like, brother, why you filming me? When you do stuff like that, you trying to get the person to relate. Like, you're filming me, so why are you doing that? And he filmed him for blocks. Follow him jogging for blocks. And he walk up like. But I'm like, that. Them hands on hips might have distracted you from what the fuck was really happening.

[Ice]

Like, literally. It's a trick. It's a trick.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. These niggas don't want to tell you who else made it. So congratulations to all the people that it made it. The rest of y' all didn't matter

[Joe Button]

enough for us to look your name up.

[Mona]

That's crazy.

[Joe Button]

I don't care how much you paid to the association.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm happy for sponsorship fee.

[Ish's friend]

85 to 85,000.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm happy for one. The rest of that list. Sorry, buddy.

[Joe Button]

Hell, no, I'm not paying them usually.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, no, I would pay.

[Joe Button]

But to show up to, like, that's part of it.

[Ish]

You Got to do this.

[Flip]

But from what I here in general, someone else pays the sponsorship fee for you. People who love you or friends or family or collectors.

[Joe Button]

So I would pay my own.

[Flip]

No, you don't think we would come up for that?

[Joe Button]

No, no, I don't think y' all would come up.

[Flip]

We absolutely would.

[Mona]

I don't have.

[Ice]

We would.

[Flip]

Yes, we would.

[Mona]

75,000.

[Ice]

Yeah, we would.

[Mona]

No, $75. Like I.

[Ish]

Big dog don't count.

[Mona]

Mine is me.

[Flip]

I'm just got name.

[Ice]

We heard the story about the bread.

[Flip]

Three, six plus Imani.

[Ice]

We heard the story about the bread on the table.

[Mona]

Don't remind me, cuz I still. I'm not ashamed. Let me tell. Excuse me.

[Ice]

Why you acknowledge that you have said he did. He did, he did. Well, I wasn't here first of all.

[Mona]

Excuse me. What happened was, is I got stole from first and I stole back. Cuz I know how to steal. So that's first of all.

[Ice]

Somebody stole from you first?

[Mona]

Yeah, I had merch. I came. I had merch.

[Joe Button]

She did say that she gave everybody merch, Cat.

[Mona]

All of merch disappear. I start asking, can I get them for the shirts? I say, I'm a shirt. He go like, it's wrong that I want 40, 50 bucks for my shirt. And yeah, then you brought merch up

[Ice]

here to sell to us.

[Mona]

Why would not y' all don't support the brand.

[Ice]

Girl, sell that outside back to the team. We waiting for you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She crazy.

[Mona]

I asked this for. That's that is shirt. 20 times he ain't bring it. That's the.

[Joe Button]

You know what you got.

[Ish's friend]

You wore I a now I went to a sweatsuit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, can I jump in with some lines?

[Ish's friend]

No.

[Joe Button]

You know, you.

[Mona]

Come on. Shut up.

[Ice]

First of all, you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can get that company. First of all.

[Mona]

First of all, the skin, baby.

[Ice]

And you.

[Mona]

You talking about you. Why didn't like what you felt away? Cuz I did a little stealing.

[Ice]

Who Now I heard about. I couldn't believe it. Now I with you.

[Mona]

First of all, I stole on the open, too.

[Ice]

You was on my shoe list for that for diverting. But then they say yo ma took some bread. I'm like, never.

[Flip]

Nah, it was like a strong arm. It wasn't even really still.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was like a strong ar, basically.

[Mona]

Rob.

[Joe Button]

Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, I'm not mad at stealing, cuz I'm. I'm pro stealing. That wasn't why I was mad.

[Mona]

He said he was gonna steal me, he's gonna steal back. That's what he said. Went right in my Pocket my pocket my pocketbook and stole a ten pound.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I promise I'm pro stealing.

[Ice]

Are you play those games?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm with that if we opening that

[Mona]

door let's play dug his hand in my purse.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The next week I come from where she come from. But I've changed. She my problem with Mona was money on the wood during a.

[Mona]

You're not supposed to do that with the gambling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was wrong and I know she knows better. That can't count in the stealing game.

[Joe Button]

Money on the wood man might come up.

[Mona]

I could have got hurt

[Ish]

one of the wire.

[Mona]

That's why I fixed it. I fixed it. And the complain like apple play huh?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We a T shirt in T shirt dog bed.

[Mona]

Exactly.

[Flip]

He said.

[Mona]

He said he threw his in the trash.

[Joe Button]

That is in the cab.

[Ish]

You never gave everybody no T shirt, bro.

[Mona]

That's how I remember.

[Ish]

I told you I was by one.

[Ice]

Give. Give her her sweatsuit bro. You did the same One of us up here. You took a long time to give them.

[Mona]

They I definitely asked her a sweatsuit. King.

[Ice]

One of us up here get give her a sweatsuit.

[Mona]

Lord, I need it.

[Ice]

You took bad load with Joe. Shit.

[Ish's friend]

Mama's lying.

[Ice]

I wear that sweatshirt. You took mad love with Joe shit. Right?

[Mona]

Freeze.

[Ice]

He said you trying to shit on my shit. Joe kept asking

[Big Freeze]

got one.

[Ice]

I like that. I got my shit quick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Me too with Joe.

[Mona]

Y' all all got one.

[Joe Button]

Oh shit.

[Ice]

Yes. He's solid when it comes to my that quick.

[Mona]

That's his loss. I wear that. That's that. Is that gonna sell out that day? You mean that's on him. That's on him. I'm telling you. You might. You might have misheard me. I'm telling you I asked. Well, I'm xing on camera. I would like a sweatsuit and I want two colors.

[Ish]

Got you.

[Joe Button]

It could happen too. Meet him in the back of the at 9 o' clock back of D.

[Ice]

What you just say?

[Mona]

That's my bro.

[Ice]

Watch your mouth. Play while like.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Tell him meet him at his po box at around 7:30.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Po box?

[Joe Button]

My boy don't play by that po box.

[Ice]

Not only that you get 500 in your pocket and you make it a ride. What catch him by that be a different. Listen. The starts dancing when he out of his car. He doing a little shimmy to it. He's bonked out.

[Mona]

He got bread.

[Ice]

He got bread. Just be making them. And he got a Chinese bank over there. I swear to God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like this is a mystery be making up.

[Ice]

You hold wait. You didn't take me to a Chinese bank. Yes or no, did you not take me to the Chinese bank?

[Mona]

No.

[Ice]

This is a liar, bro.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's all right, though.

[Ish]

It's cool.

[Joe Button]

I want to know what weird confusion is.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want to hear it is the

[Ice]

Chinese bank in Jersey. Did I not say is why we over here at the the Chinese bank? Yes or no? Did not come back. Freeze and say it.

[Ish]

He came back and said a couple times.

[Joe Button]

There's a funny story or something.

[Ish's friend]

He's talking about lie.

[Ice]

That's what he talking about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That is lying, bro.

[Joe Button]

What is Long Island Expressway?

[Ish]

What's that?

[Joe Button]

Huh?

[Ice]

What was that big over there, You talking about? Don't listen to this.

[Joe Button]

Why you was at the bank with him?

[Ice]

He. He know. He always want to show off. Showing off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hold on.

[Ice]

Take a ride with me.

[Mice]

Why?

[Ice]

Take a ride.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm go get a load.

[Ice]

Just drop me off, boy. Go after in the club in a late night feeling. Right?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's the type of is. I got to make it stop real quick.

[Flip]

That's what you doing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cigar.

[Joe Button]

Give me this shit called.

[Ish's friend]

That's me.

[Ish]

That's what I did.

[Ice]

My shit is the opposite way. You took me the other way to take me home.

[Ish's friend]

This nigga is lying.

[Ish]

But it's all right.

[Ice]

You know how many times to be home?

[Ish's friend]

About five.

[Ice]

Exactly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, the rest of you niggas, they got a star on the Walk of Fame.

[Flip]

I got the list. That's what I was trying to read this go. So in motion pictures, Cheech and Chong.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Flip]

Idris Elba.

[Big Freeze]

Elba.

[Joe Button]

Oh, okay.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I with Idris.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Sam Elliott.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Flip]

Elle Fanning and Dakota Fanning.

[Joe Button]

Okay.

[Flip]

Kate Hudson.

[Ice]

Okay.

[Big Freeze]

Okay.

[Flip]

Delroy Lindo.

[Joe Button]

For sure. That's my man.

[Flip]

Sam Rockwell.

[Joe Button]

Oh, Sam gotta make it.

[Flip]

And Ted Sarandos.

[Ish's friend]

Who the.

[Flip]

Who the is that?

[Joe Button]

No, Ted Sarandos. I know.

[Flip]

I was about to say.

[Joe Button]

I know Ted.

[Flip]

I was about to say.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Trying to look at you.

[Joe Button]

Trying to jam somebody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, Ted, no.

[Ice]

We would have edited the.

[Joe Button]

That Sam I'm talking about.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, Sam.

[Joe Button]

I don't know Sam.

[Flip]

Sam Elliott. Y' all know Sam. I don't know Sam Elliott.

[Ice]

I don't know Sam.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Sam Elliott.

[Flip]

What's he in?

[Ish's friend]

He's in Mad.

[Big Freeze]

The old deep, deep voice with the big handlebar mustache.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah. Black spin off with Patrick Swayze.

[Flip]

I gotta see his face.

[Joe Button]

The Ranch.

[Ish]

Ranch with Asha.

[Big Freeze]

You know,

[Joe Button]

I get that, but I didn't see. Oh, I do know him, but check this out. I didn't see a movie called the Ranch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The ranch dope on.

[Ish's friend]

Not Dutton Ranch.

[Ish]

No, the ranch.

[Ice]

This 81 years old boy didn't now

[Ish's friend]

give him the show, bro.

[Flip]

Some of these y' all going to care about in tv. David Allen Greer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Congratul.

[Mona]

Okay, there's a couple more.

[Flip]

Couple more. Joseph, David, Alan Greer, Lisa Kudrow, Bill Lawrence, Pedro Pack, Pascal, Adam Scott, Benjamin. Props Keke Palmer and Raven Simone all got for tv. Now here's the one I thought y' all might care about. The recording one, since we're a music show. Carol G, David Guetta. I don't know that, but Waylon Jennings. Posthumous the Ramones, Joseph Sadler from, you know, Grandmaster Flash, Mark Scheiman, Sia, Smashing Pumpkins, Linkin park and Lil Wayne.

[Mona]

Okay, okay.

[Flip]

Some good news for Lil Wayne. I know a lot of times he feels ignored or doesn't feel like he gets the credit that he deserves. So we got it. And then Nicole Schwerzinger, Joe Coy, Robert below, Jimmy Johnson got it for sports entertainment. And the only person who got it for radio is our very own Charlamagne. So congratulations.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Congratulations.

[Flip]

I don't. I don't understand how they don't run out of space. I don't understand how that works.

[Ish]

That go all.

[Big Freeze]

It's bad sidewalk.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It ain't one street.

[Ish]

It ain't one street that you go around the corner.

[Ice]

Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is the only one that's not on the floor. Put some respect sprinkled on his name.

[Flip]

Your recipe.

[Ice]

Muhammad Ali's is on the wall.

[Mona]

When I first saw those stars, see how crusty and dirty that was? I was shocked.

[Ish]

Like, it's the same way when they see Times Square. Same. Have an idea of Times Square. And then when they get over here, it's like, wait, what?

[Mona]

I'm not.

[Ish]

That's how it was my first time out there. I got to la. Yo, take me to the walk. I want to do all the tourist we got down there. I was like, all right, I'm cool. Let's get the out of here, please.

[Flip]

Would y' all want one of those? Let's say this show goes on for another 20 years. Oh, keep going. That's something else.

[Joe Button]

No, go ahead. I want to hear.

[Flip]

Is that something y' all would want to have your name on the Walk of Fame?

[Ish]

Yes. I take all that.

[Flip]

You do the ceremony.

[Ish's friend]

I take it. If my career was good enough that it was warranted.

[Flip]

Okay.

[Ish's friend]

I wouldn't just want it on.

[Flip]

See, I would think. I would have thought you would have said no. I thought you'd have Been too like shy for that.

[Ish's friend]

I mean, but just that's your family and your kids and all that.

[Ish]

Could have some legacy. I'm over there with greatness. Yeah, I'll take this today. How much it flip you do it? I wouldn't take it today.

[Flip]

Who'd you bring to the ceremony?

[Ice]

My wife, who else?

[Flip]

I assume your wife, who else?

[Ice]

My children.

[Joe Button]

Shut him down.

[Ice]

Kill that.

[Flip]

Don't stop with me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I want to smoke. You know what?

[Ice]

I've been watching you that whole time. I've been watching you doing voiceovers on that camera. Don't start.

[Ish]

This was narrating the whole.

[Ice]

Yo, you my man. I like love you too, son. You know I love you. Yo, you don't play.

[Ish's friend]

You.

[Ice]

You run a strict program. My son don't play. We worried about.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was talking to my brother.

[Flip]

That's a funny bro I was talking about, right?

[Ice]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying that you don't play. You started punching the air and all

[Flip]

that N. I was punching the air.

[Ice]

Yo, Joe, you want to punch your hand now?

[Flip]

Now I'm Cuba Gooding from Poison.

[Ice]

Hung up on you.

[Ish]

Who the.

[Flip]

Yo, don't hang up on a and

[Ice]

send me a text.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't hang up on me and send me a text.

[Ice]

Yeah, send me a text.

[Ish]

You.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We saw you ball your fist.

[Ish]

Yes, B, we watched that whole. Bro, he not lying.

[Joe Button]

We watched us, you and our friend.

[Ice]

You know why I with Mona though? Cuz Mona, you could tell where she's from. She mind her whole. I was nosy. Mona just kept me in her phone.

[Mona]

I told him to shut up cause he too loud.

[Ice]

Mind her whole business.

[Flip]

I thought she talking about the neighbors. I know you been diesel these.

[Ish]

She went outside to say so I could be nosy.

[Mona]

No, I was listen for real. I was talking to y'. All. But I listen on some real. I hate when do that around me. So I try to like tune it out.

[Ice]

You don't want to be nosy.

[Flip]

I forgot to do you know, cuz the balcony got side. So my mind. I'm by myself and that was playing with you.

[Joe Button]

So you Mark.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was.

[Joe Button]

I want to just go over one of our more recent viral moments. The other day we had the argument about the debate about Mike Tyson and Jackie Chan, Right?

[Big Freeze]

Here we go.

[Flip]

More or less.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. So I uploaded those. Those slides to my Instagram so I was able to hear it again. And I heard something. I heard you say something that I didn't hear in the room. And boy, you lucky I didn't hear that in the room. What did I. I say Ammani kind of saved you with that Jackie Chan. Cuz you named two names.

[Flip]

Who did I say?

[Joe Button]

Jet Li.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Jet Lee would be wrong.

[Joe Button]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Mona]

All right.

[Joe Button]

Okay, that's it. And the end of the.

[Flip]

Yeah, easy podcasting is you be like, you know what?

[Big Freeze]

I don't care that much.

[Flip]

That's the other thing. I mean, there is an argument to be made. But I.

[Big Freeze]

He just spent so much energy on that balcony that he does not want to fight. Whatever you want to fight.

[Ice]

What did you say? No, no, no.

[Flip]

But also like we were throwing out a bunch of names and some of it is spitball. And I would say.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

In that moment I said Jet Li as wrong.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. Okay.

[Flip]

I think.

[Ice]

You don't think Jet Li popping no more.

[Flip]

More face. More face. Facially recognizable than Mike Tyson globally just

[Ish]

walking down the street.

[Ice]

No, a Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan is.

[Ish]

But not.

[Flip]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I said Jet Li. That was the wrong one. I thought a few that were. I threw out a few that were wrong.

[Big Freeze]

Jet is throw it on the name of the pot.

[Flip]

I thought. But here's the thing.

[Big Freeze]

No, I want to hear flips.

[Flip]

Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Ice]

Facial recognition.

[Big Freeze]

Face. Just face card.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shaq, I think we may said.

[Flip]

Yeah, we said that.

[Ice]

What's my man name from the. That had the show sign fail.

[Flip]

Okay, we didn't say that.

[Joe Button]

But.

[Flip]

Cuz he wouldn't have allowed it.

[Joe Button]

But yeah, somebody said it.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, I think it was.

[Flip]

I think you said no to that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, well, I said no to everybody.

[Flip]

But yes, you said to Seinfeld. He's doing everybody. He says Mike Tyson's top five in the world.

[Ice]

I.

[Ish]

No, you don't.

[Joe Button]

Let.

[Ish]

Let the man talk.

[Ice]

That's interesting.

[Flip]

It's crazy.

[Joe Button]

Well, we started at top five, then we eventually got to. Is he top 20? Which I said for sure he is. Mark.

[Flip]

I think he's in the mix for top 20. But I would say top 40 for sure. Top. You know what I mean?

[Joe Button]

Listen, I'm not mad. The Internet loved our little.

[Flip]

Yeah, it was great.

[Joe Button]

That show was hilarious.

[Ice]

Is it Jet Li?

[Flip]

We were throwing out a lot of names.

[Ice]

Jet Lee fire though, son. Jet Lee him.

[Flip]

I think y' all underestimating Jet L.

[Ice]

But Jet L, I'm a Jet Li fan.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

I'm talking about facing right again. When you start talking global shit. That's different. But I wouldn't die on a Jet Li hill.

[Joe Button]

And there's one more thing that I heard that. I'm just not sure I heard. I had to be wrong.

[Big Freeze]

Say it.

[Flip]

Maybe it wasn't. Was it me?

[Joe Button]

No, this was Mandy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh.

[Mice]

Huh.

[Joe Button]

I heard Mandy's say something, but it had to be a mistake that you wanted to.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Mona]

What? What? What?

[Mice]

Who?

[Mona]

Mandy. What? Mandy.

[Ice]

Hey, yo.

[Mona]

Horrible decision.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't going to lie, son.

[Ice]

I. I don't know. I was shocked. Wait, I did a review on that on my page. I couldn't believe it. I'll let you get your organization.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Ice]

Talking about flip Mandy.

[Mice]

Joe.

[Ice]

Mandy did a clip where she talked about marriage being for broke women. She felt like women that want to be married are broke. The ones that want to be married for broke women. Right. Broke women want to get married. Joe responded on the last pod and, you know, he tried to hold back, but I was doing most of the talking.

[Mona]

Who tried to hold that?

[Ice]

Me.

[Mona]

Your button dropped. Yeah.

[Ice]

Yeah. He didn't really say anything, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I didn't say too much on it.

[Ice]

Yeah, he didn't.

[Joe Button]

I didn't.

[Ice]

He didn't. Oh. He said that Mandy should be included in what I was saying because I was like, no, not Mandy. Because I didn't just want to involve her. I didn't want to get into all that. But he said, no, Mandy is included in that. And then she responded. She responded on Instagram Live, and she.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Which she has the right to do. People have the right to do. I have zero problem with people replying to things that podcasters say until I hear something stupid like, he must be mad cause he tried to fuck me.

[Mona]

Oh, she said that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Flip]

And you're not mad about that? Yes.

[Mona]

Well, did you try to fuck?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. No.

[Mona]

So you never tried to fucking? She said no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No. And that's the thing, right? First of all, a lie don't care

[Ice]

who telling a lie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't care who tell it, man number one. Number two, if you lie enough, Mandy lies so much, she can't tell when it's a bad lie. So she just gets. She just spitting. She's like, yo, he tried to fuck. And I hate when you that would. Mandy, we from 2008.

[Joe Button]

Girl.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Girl09. I love that you got in shape.

[Mona]

Ooh, this nigga.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I love that you fucking changed your diet. I love that you made different life decisions and you looking better today and you feeling better today. But, dog, come on, we go back to 2008. A sentence I ain't never heard was, niggas tried to fuck Mandy. That's not the way it comes back in the Street.

[Joe Button]

Mandy.

[Mona]

Lord help me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Just so we clear, I've never heard the word tried in there. This is back to fucking Henny Palooza days. Like, what are we talking about? But you're a woman, and I'm a little bit mature, so we're not going to go back and forth about this, and I'm not going to say no more about it. But don't say that again, because I ain't all the way as mature as

[Joe Button]

I need to be.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't let me hear you say that repulsive shit again. Yeah, no.

[Flip]

Can I ask you a question, Joe?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You bitches change your lives around and

[Joe Button]

then think you could get the lying

[Mark Lamont Hill]

on niggas that been that nigga the whole time.

[Joe Button]

You could. Oh, he been on my body. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cite your sources. Produce that. Where is the text Call T mobile, bitch, get the phone record. Show anything that says this a merit to this. Cause you gonna ruin my Carfax with that.

[Mona]

Oh, my God, this boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like. Some lies you gotta fix. I'm sorry.

[Joe Button]

I know some of y'.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All listen.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Mona]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Some lies you gotta fix. Cause Mandy's popular and got a platform. Somebody might hear that shit and believe.

[Ice]

Believe it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

People heard it and believe it. Somebody might say. And then my carpet credit score back down to 520. Letting people just talk. Mandy, don't say that again, or I might get mad and actually reply to it.

[Joe Button]

And I'm gonna leave it at that.

[Ice]

Do you.

[Flip]

Just a question. I don't know. I don't know Mandy.

[Joe Button]

God damn it.

[Flip]

I don't know Mandy. So I don't. I don't have no thoughts or feelings on this situation, Although I don't see nothing, you know, fight y' all guys. Are y' all like, what? Sometimes I think y' all look friends. Sometimes I think y' all cool. Some days I think y' all enemies.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark, I don't have friends.

[Mona]

Them niggas ain't friends.

[Joe Button]

I don't have friends. Never look at somebody and say, oh, they friends with Joe.

[Ice]

That's not true.

[Joe Button]

That's a good rule of thumb.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There's no friends.

[Joe Button]

I'll let you know when it's a friend.

[Flip]

Okay?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Don't look at some tweets and some cordialness. Don't look. I ain't friends with no.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to be held to that expectation.

[Ice]

Here's my thing with Mandy, though.

[Flip]

And

[Ice]

initially, Joe would not say Mandy's name on the podcast. I think that after I did the joint and then ish. We would acknowledge that we were cool, but he would always try to not say her name. I feel like now that the door is open, I feel like certain things. Cause somebody was like, you flip this. Should there be a limit on disrespect? And I feel like if you're trying to engage with somebody, whether it be in front of them, debate them, or go on their platform, there should be some level of tippy toeing around disrespect. And certain things that she says, I just say, like, why would you go that route if there was any chance of you seeing each other or being cool? Sometimes when you say certain things, you just throw that away. And I feel like sometimes it's a right to respond. If you feel offended that a nigga say, yo, you're not marryable or you unmarriable, that can be offensive. And I understand that you're like, I don't have.

[Joe Button]

Let me be clear with Jamar, because I do. Because you're from the academic world, you really seem like you're trying to get some information. I don't have any beef with, man.

[Ice]

There we go.

[Flip]

Gotcha.

[Joe Button]

I've worked with Mandy. I have no problem with Mandy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I think because of that, she tries

[Joe Button]

to get slick sometimes because she feels like she has people that love her in here. And because I love those people, I chill

[Flip]

understood.

[Joe Button]

But my mouth is way slicker than

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I would love nothing more than. I don't even see what the back and forth is. We agree. You said marriages for broke people. I said you ain't marriageable. It's the same. We're saying the same thing.

[Ish]

Wait, hold on.

[Mona]

Wait.

[Flip]

Y' all not saying the same thing.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We are saying the same thing.

[Flip]

No, you're not.

[Ice]

No, you're not.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We are. She's saying marriage is for broke people. Yeah, Marriage is not for her.

[Flip]

Yeah, but when people hear marriageable, they don't hear it's not for you. They hear no one will marry you,

[Joe Button]

but no one will marry you if marriage isn't for you. It's just the law of attraction.

[Flip]

I got you. That ain't what people hurt.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't care.

[Flip]

That's why people hurt.

[Ice]

That's why I said she had the capability of getting married or somebody. She doesn't have to. She won't be proposed to or. That doesn't mean that she wouldn't be a good wife if she was in

[Mona]

a relationship because don't even want a husband. So what the does it.

[Ice]

That's what I'M saying she identified Ish and Ice and saying that Ish knows me and Ish knows that I'll be an amazing girl. That's what she said. Ish knows that I'll be an amazing wife.

[Joe Button]

This just about to be a quick ISO. This doing a whole full breakdown report.

[Ice]

Don't do it. Don't do that. Nigga, don't do that. I'm on your side 100%. But we got to identify. We got to identify. Yes. 120. We got to identify when our man

[Flip]

say something to get to.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

If you want the.

[Joe Button]

If you want the job, whatever the job is, before you get it, you have to carry yourself in a way that would get the job. Whatever you. Whatever you want, before it gets there, you have to carry yourself in the manner that would attain that for you. If Mandy is not looking for marriage, then she's not behaving in a manner that's trying to get somebody to marry her.

[Flip]

I got you. I got you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So we are kind of saying the

[Joe Button]

same thing, but back to the dig about it, because I don't really need y' all to interrupt with logic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, Spectacular. Just spectacular. Just put a golf ball of hog spit in your fucking mouth three months ago. Sorry. Why am I the bad guy? Potato ate. That's probably not the marriable action. Wait, you're on a live broadcast saying, yo, for years I enjoyed that was married. This ain't nobody. This is you saying it.

[Mona]

Excuse me. I don't want to.

[Joe Button]

Oh, God damn it.

[Mona]

I'm sorry. I just. Where can I watch that? I was.

[Joe Button]

So I just got the review.

[Mona]

Is that an only fans thing for research? Where can I see?

[Joe Button]

No, it's on the Internet.

[Mona]

Okay. My bad. My. Look, Mike going. Yeah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm just saying you said so much.

[Joe Button]

It's like that would make it difficult if you. Yeah.

[Flip]

On the video, she was trying to say basically that her on camera Persona is different than her off camera Persona. That's why she's saying Ish knows her better. Could attest to that. That it's a different. And I. I do get that. That a lot of us have different. We say different on. We're different people in front of the camera. Then off. Off the camera. Are you Mona?

[Mona]

I'm pretty much just up off the camera. Just get a little worse. And you want to know the truth?

[Joe Button]

I wish she would get a different person.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I keep trying to.

[Mona]

I like it. This is what I'm gonna say. I feel like for me, like you like, it's the Whole try to thing you you a woman if the way a woman gauges oh, he was trying to or whatever. It's so many different ways that could be like slightly slid through. And nowadays we are in that digital age that when you say want to see, they want you to prove every little thing. I'm just not. I feel like. Like a lot of be trying to, but I'm just not saying that.

[Joe Button]

You know what I mean?

[Mona]

It's just not something I would say. But I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. I feel like being in this, it's something tension, whatever you want to call it, you know, so it's like. It's almost jabby. But even saying ish know me better. He knows if I'll be married. But it's like a. End of the day, I don't give a if a think I'm marriable. Like, who cares what a think about if I'm marriable, if that's what I want. And. And you know, God bless me with that. I was, you know, I manifested that the energy was right and I got that. Got that. I don't care what.

[Joe Button]

Everybody has a right to their own opinions and everybody live their life the way they want to live it. Mandy, if I hear you say something stupid like that that again, then we'll address that. Don't say honestly. For real. For real. Don't say that no more.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Ice]

She's a maniac.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's a maniac. Maniac for your love question.

[Mona]

She didn't put no conversation, didn't say when, where, what? Nothing.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, she said he. He probably mad cuz he tried to and I turned him down.

[Mona]

Oh, don't.

[Ish]

Went a little different.

[Mona]

It did. Tell me, can I. Cuz I'm curious.

[Joe Button]

A little different.

[Mona]

Tell me.

[Ish]

Somebody asked her what's the beef with Joe? And she's like, I. I don't know, man. She said it kind of in passing. Like maybe try to like.

[Ice]

She didn't.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ish]

But what I'm saying is she did not say that. You TR that you tried to and she shut it down. Those words were not said. Okay, but that changes it a certain way if it's presented that way.

[Flip]

That's all you see, she was throwing out like a hypothetical or like a be.

[Ish]

It was that. That's how.

[Joe Button]

That's how she was saying is I tone. Maybe it was that says that there's a dat.

[Ish]

No, bro, it's all right.

[Ice]

He said that it was Sarcasm. That's what he.

[Ish]

That's how it sounded.

[Ice]

Don't.

[Flip]

Hey, all right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you, y'.

[Mona]

All.

[Joe Button]

I appreciate it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, hey, don't say nothing that could be confused with Joe tried to and you denied it. Make it clear. Don't let me hear that again. That's the clothes you guys. Damn it.

[Flip]

Speaking of clothes, Joe Dr. Cheyenne Bryant was on the Internet. Hey

[Ish]

one doctor.

[Joe Button]

It's a tougher issue, man. If you want to get go ahead. You ain't got to sit through this shit.

[Mona]

Why I mean, what is what is

[Ice]

on some solid nigga, watch your mouth, nigga. What you doing you about when you

[Mona]

get discussed what you supposed to jump fight the what you gonna do for real. It is what it is. Got damn people. She said he try to he said

[Ice]

I've never tried to that oh yeah, you oh, you play a different game. They said you doing that too. I didn't believe you rewinded. You rewind that

[Mark Lamont Hill]

telling you. I'm telling you about she know.

[Ice]

I don't know. I love that moment.

[Mona]

Don't worry about it's not.

[Ice]

Don't worry bonus. You know I'm your biggest fan.

[Mona]

Sometimes they don't want me to talk.

[Ice]

I love when you talk.

[Mona]

I was just saying that site. Nah, it's a little tense also real though. But like all that not giving it up about your friends is like, what what are we doing here? You know what you say, cuz technically, if. If we having this back and forth and the person says, well, you can ask ish. I want to know what is do you think that like. Like, I want to know.

[Ice]

He ain't going to say cuz if

[Mona]

I say a name like you can ask him. I yeah, so ask him.

[Ish's friend]

What do I think about what If Mandy is marriable.

[Mona]

Yeah, you wouldn't do nor a little. I think.

[Ish's friend]

I think everybody's married.

[Mona]

No, the question is how to see married. The question is if she has two different Personas and it's her real Persona that you know because y' all are closer.

[Ish's friend]

I think everybody that gets in front of these microphones today, for the most part, has two different Personas. I think n know what sell and Mandy's been in this business a long, long time, so she know what's going to be catchy. She know what's to say to get clicks and engagement. So I think that when you get in front of the microphones, the people that care about clicks and engagement, they go when you turn the microphone on, they know what to say to get get that? And I think then they off camera. Some flip off camera is quiet like a church mouse, but if you don't know flip. When the camera.

[Flip]

He's a cat.

[Ish]

When the camera cut on.

[Ish's friend]

When the camera cut on. That's not what I call when the camera cut on.

[Flip]

That.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, yo, hey, hey.

[Ice]

That's. Hey, don't take it out on me, boy. Don't let the. I'm not the head. I'm taking. Listen to me good. We on the same team. Last time I was here when Mona was here, that was a nice. You fell out.

[Mona]

Let's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We never going to fall out.

[Mona]

I said.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

When I said I meant that night.

[Flip]

It's like you.

[Mice]

You.

[Flip]

You quiet.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Thank you. All right.

[Ice]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

You know the funny about that?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And last time Mona barked at me a few weeks ago, she said, hey, you the keeping me a recording together.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Mona]

God damn. That's. That's in house. Nothing wrong with you. About that. Do we have any in house business?

[Ish]

No, no.

[Mona]

God damn.

[Ice]

Hey, I started that too. I started that.

[Ish]

That's his fact.

[Mona]

Listen, listen.

[Flip]

So let's move on.

[Mona]

That's the corniest in America. Can we stop doing that?

[Ice]

Guys, I'm telling you this why they kept me on the show.

[Mona]

How?

[Ice]

Like, because I do that. Hold on.

[Mona]

I see, bro, it's corn. You know, I know you do that.

[Ice]

Yeah, I know I do that. You know, I know you do that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's my bag.

[Mona]

No.

[Ice]

Unless if it's something ser. If it's something serious, I don't do it.

[Mona]

Yes, you do.

[Ice]

Nah.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You know what happens over.

[Joe Button]

I figured that was the problem.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

N be lying.

[Ish]

That's what happened up here.

[Flip]

Serious death.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yes.

[Mona]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all serious.

[Joe Button]

Y' all do not respect the. The close of a topic at all and the intro of a topic.

[Ice]

This is a whole new topic, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I mean, it was.

[Flip]

All right. So. So Mandy took me out of Twitter yesterday to clap back.

[Mona]

That. Excuse me. New rule in house business. In house business, period. So we going to beat you the up.

[Ice]

No. I'll take her ass with her. Kill me. They just jump me, y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mice]

Yeah.

[Ice]

And it's all jump is no fair ones.

[Mona]

You get jump.

[Ice]

I take that. I take that. Don't take $100 from me, but I

[Mona]

take that I should. Listen, listen. It's no rules if you run your fucking him. If.

[Joe Button]

This is why I stopped them.

[Mona]

If you going to tell. If you want that. It's the only day we got. If you going to tell where the bodies. If I can't even come here, tell my brothers where the bodies in Virginia at. Like what the. Who can I tell that.

[Ice]

I never told our business. Let me tell you what you do. Like your us.

[Ish's friend]

Listen, he going to be like, I ain't going to say nothing but down there in Chesapeake,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

yo, over there by

[Ice]

that third tree got some secrets. My man acted funny. Last part he left. Yo is where you going?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Walk right back up.

[Ice]

Have a good day, sir. Whistling we didn't have our small so I felt. The way I went home and thought about that is you acting a little up. I don't even know what to say.

[Ish]

Acted up insane.

[Mona]

I thought about it at home way quick, guys.

[Flip]

Yeah, he had enough of our.

[Ice]

What were we talking about before?

[Flip]

Yes, the Internet's been a blaze all week. They've been lighting ass up cuz she. You know, everybody does the Netflix challenge. By the way, Juicy did a good one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Oh yeah, Juicy.

[Flip]

Juicy. Shout out to Juicy. She did a good one. But everybody been doing a Netflix thing where they sit down and do they mock documentary about whatever's going on. And Cheyenne Bryant jumped on and did one where her or wearing a doctoral robe. It's hers and it's hers. And come on saying, you know, my next fix documentary will be on people saying that part one will be people saying I didn't have a doctorate. And the next nine episodes be all the haters.

[Mice]

2 to 10.

[Ice]

2 to 12.

[Flip]

2 to 12, whatever. Be all the haters basically trying to prove that I didn't have one or whatever. Basically clapping back. That was like. It seemed like a clap back. And then like seven seconds later, the Internet did some research and they clapped back too.

[Ice]

They found a doctoral outfit on Amazon.

[Flip]

Well, they did a couple things. First, they zoomed in on the back wall and they showed that there were degrees on the wall but not the doctoral degree. It was just a little. A certificate that said Dr. Bryant, all lowercase with no school on it. And then they researched her robes and hood and saw that it was for the wrong degree and that it wasn't from. From that school. And so I thought. And I wouldn't know what y' all thought. I thought she was just leaning into the joke.

[Ice]

That's me too.

[Flip]

I thought she was just being funny and having fun with it.

[Ice]

Strolling.

[Ish]

You think she intentionally knew this was the wrong shit to put on?

[Ice]

Yes.

[Flip]

No.

[Ish]

See, that's where I don't think she knew that.

[Ish's friend]

I don't think she cared. I just think she found a robe somewhere and just Leaned it to the joke. I think that Dr. Bryant has now become a personality and to the main, Mandy point and flip point, I think now she knows what gets the algorithms going that translates into revenue for her. And so I think that she's now stepping into that lane where I don't give a fuck as long as it's getting me paid.

[Flip]

I think it's a little bit of both. I agree with everything you said, but I also wonder if there's not another thing on top of that too. Like if you get put on blast and get caught lying. You know what I mean, and you're still maintaining that you're not not lying, then I think you can't mo.

[Ice]

She trolling one.

[Flip]

If there's a little bit of a.

[Ish's friend]

This had, for all intents and purposes died down.

[Flip]

That's my point.

[Ish's friend]

She revived it. And if I'm a revive it, if I was trying to escape it, I

[Ish]

would have let it go out with the. With. With the.

[Ish's friend]

With the tide.

[Flip]

Right.

[Ish's friend]

I bought it back because evidently there's something beneficial in me bringing it back. It's something advantageous to me now going, doing this and reawakening the shit. My books is moving my whatever is going and I.

[Ish]

That's crazy.

[Flip]

I think it's.

[Ish]

You think her books and moving off of like this helps the books move.

[Flip]

The books ain't moving, I think, because

[Ish]

again, no, I think.

[Ish's friend]

I think whatever it translates to is something that is beneficial to her, like financially.

[Ish]

What I see, I see. I see all of this as a pivot.

[Flip]

I think you're right. Better for you than not all this looks like. I agree with that. But I'm. I think there's a mental thing going on here too.

[Mona]

She throwed the off.

[Ice]

Yeah, that's what I thought, to use the technical term. Let me ask you a question, mark. Do you think. Do you think al after she came up here, started to get a little shaky for her?

[Flip]

Oh, everything.

[Ice]

Everything fell to the day she came

[Flip]

on a Joe podcast.

[Joe Button]

Yes.

[Mona]

Oh, that's starting to be a funny thread.

[Flip]

Ain't been right since.

[Mona]

Listen, at the end of the day, I think people don't like. My thing is, you know how crazy you got to be to play that game. You really ain't no doctor. So it's like, why aren't we all assuming that this is not that calculated a person to play that game like that and not. Not say nothing. The way she carried it, I would not be surprised if this wasn't no purple going purpose. I think her. Her I think in her mind the best case scenario is people just think she a doctor and shut the up.

[Ish]

Yeah, I disagree with that totally.

[Flip]

What you think about the pivot?

[Mona]

I want to hear what you have to say.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

So I think, I think this is a pivot from.

[Joe Button]

From.

[Ish]

What was she calling herself before? Like what was her profession?

[Flip]

First therapist, then psychology expert.

[Ish]

Okay. I think this is a move for. From that to influencer personality. Where now I'm not really looking to give y' all consultation all that now I'm. I can sell just by being me and lean into all of this shit, get all of this attention.

[Ish's friend]

I had.

[Ish]

She had selling merch, selling shirts, all of this shit. Writing a book as the doctor or being the personality. It might be more money over here just being a personality.

[Flip]

I think that's right now.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Is it. Does it last as long? We don't know yet. But right now this might be more lucrative.

[Mona]

But the picture it is by necessity not choice. What else the you gonna do that's

[Ish]

I mean you yo life give you living. You come on the show but again goes to soon as you come on the show because now people looking more into you than before. You got two options at that point. You got two options at that point.

[Ice]

Turn to an avalanche after this.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

But.

[Mice]

Right.

[Ish]

But at that point. What's what you have two options now. I could sit here and lose everything and be like they got me.

[Flip]

I'm out it.

[Ish]

It's over.

[Joe Button]

Wait, hold on. I can't hear everybody or said you

[Flip]

said something important that was interesting. I thought you said she ain't stopped working since. What kind of work is she doing? Not believe it.

[Ish's friend]

I'm just saying she's doing a hosting or if she's doing it doesn't matter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like I don't think it matters.

[Ish's friend]

I think that. I think that. And again I. I haven't spoken to Cheyenne. I don't know these things to be true.

[Joe Button]

Let's just say you was in the comments though.

[Mona]

Are y' all friends?

[Joe Button]

He was in the comments.

[Ish]

We cool.

[Mona]

That's your friend.

[Joe Button]

You left a little comment under it look like support.

[Ish]

What kind of what which one?

[Ish's friend]

I put a. You got a lot of comments under

[Joe Button]

under her little robe post.

[Flip]

Oh, I got.

[Joe Button]

And then she pinned it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It looked like. It looked like support when the pinned it. You deleted somebody.

[Flip]

Somebody didn't say you commented but I believe there were no comments. She must have delete.

[Ice]

She turned off the comments.

[Mona]

Oh that's. I ain't turning them off.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, she turned them off after a certain point deleted.

[Flip]

I didn't even see no comments cuz somebody said they do turn them off, they do delete. Oh, I didn't know that.

[Ish's friend]

My thing is, my thing is. Let's just say again I don't know numbers but let's just say I'm working as a therapist and I'm getting $300 an hour. Cool. Or 400 whatever the dollar amount may be. But now I could go get booked over here for 15 pop 15k. I could go get booked over here for 10k. I go get booked over here for 7500 in just simple math which one is more lucrative?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah but see nobody making money.

[Mona]

It don't make no sense why this what I'm saying is now cause if it's like your friend she be telling you but besides it being your friend, why do you think she's making more money or making a difference?

[Ish's friend]

Like why I'm talking about the difference in the professions. I said she might be leaning more into her influencer bag. So if you getting booked as an influencer the, the rates are X.

[Mona]

Right? But hun the reason why she's influenced is because of the therapist stuff. You don't just get to separate it like that. If you come out and you therapist that blends into a beautiful being a therapist. If you're a therapist and that blends into influence because she was already doing influence type of. Right?

[Ish]

Cool.

[Mona]

Then we. Wait, let me finish please. Then they say hey that's not true. You don't even got no degree or nothing whatever. Right. You don't then slide back in the influencership and then shoot past if anything a lot of people already looking at your validity as because you lied.

[Ish]

Oh no, you're missing one piece that she got pretty privileged and it allows her, it allows her to do that.

[Joe Button]

Pretty privileged.

[Ish]

Okay, y' all expose me here but I'm fine and I'm pretty So guess what? Now I'm gonna come over here and keep y' all coming over here. I keep like, like y' all said it died down so now I'll jump on, throw the robe on. It's the false get more attention and I'm back up here again.

[Flip]

It's just she hasn't stopped working since I, I take him at, I take him at his work. I, I would be curious to know what that work looks like. You know like all the civic stuff she was doing. NAACPs and stuff like that. They're not gonna book anymore.

[Ish]

Exactly.

[Flip]

The universities aren't going to Book anymore.

[Mona]

That's what it pays.

[Joe Button]

Oh, that's why you're saying it matters.

[Flip]

Yeah. You see what I'm saying? And if you. If. If you're booking sessions, I don't know who's booking. I don't know. It might be like the celebrity barber or chef or all this. We talking about celebrity chefs before, you know me. Like, maybe. Maybe people are booking for therapy sessions. You know what I mean? Because of the pretty privileged. And I actually looking for therapy. They're looking for some kind of. I'm not talking about sexual. I'm talking about like some kind of. Of like. So just. They just want to spend time with her. They just want to talk to her. They just want to get advice. But like, life coach is what I'm doing.

[Ish]

But like you said, the bills don't stop though, right? So the naacp, all that other. She was doing. If they not booking me no more, I'm not getting no money here. But my bills ain't stopped. So guess what? I have to find another way. I got to get his money.

[Flip]

I'm just not sure who's doing the booking now. That's all I'm saying.

[Mona]

That's all we're saying is that we.

[Flip]

I just don't know who's going to do it.

[Mona]

And I agree. Privy. Privileged. But privilege, pretty privileged might look like the stuff that I'm thinking is not even nowhere near where she comes from. Period, point blank. I was booking Wallow for marriage counseling. So it's like, people do that, but it's like.

[Flip]

But they trust Wallow.

[Mona]

They trust Wallow because of who he is, and he tells about his story and what he been through. It ain't been. Ain't nobody come out and say that ain't do.

[Ish]

20 years.

[Mona]

He did five.

[Ish]

Right?

[Mona]

That's what I'm saying. Once chivalry is knocked down, pretty privileged at all.

[Flip]

Like, the Balloon Pop brand is around giving advice.

[Mona]

Her brand, her whole brand was around

[Ish]

eyes was around giving advice. I got you. Yeah, we going again.

[Flip]

So just to move the conversation forward, I'm thinking about the. When you get. If you get caught in a public lie, and we've seen it before in other places, like, how do you respond? Do you own it? Do you run from it? Do you change the subject? Because sometimes you can just ignore it long enough.

[Ish's friend]

I mean, you don't necessarily know how to respond.

[Ish]

You start throwing shit at the wall

[Ish's friend]

to see if it sticks. It's niggas that were certified gangsters that got caught ratting. And guess what they doing? They getting paid to talk now.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

They validity ain't go nowhere.

[Mona]

Don't say they really didn't go nowhere. That's not true.

[Ish's friend]

I'm not the validity in that.

[Ish]

What I'm saying that world went somewhere.

[Ish's friend]

Street world.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

They validity went somewhere. But these might be making more money now talking over there than over there. Like so. So. So again you throw at the wall when you're in survival mode. Not saying that she was in survival mode, but if you are in survival mode and. And the money that used to. Used to live off stops coming in. Guess over here.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

You don't go in a hole and

[Mark Lamont Hill]

curl up and cry.

[Ish's friend]

You got to go get money elsewhere. And if this leads to her getting money elsewhere, then that's what she's doing and more power to her.

[Mona]

And I agree with that. If. If that sister could figure out how to turn this thing around more part of her. I don't want to see nobody living off of survival and all that other. But we just going to have to agree to disagree. Me and Mark don't see where the paper at even in the pivot, especially this soon. And I'm going say this to you.

[Flip]

I was taking past her validity.

[Mona]

Right. If I came up to you and said look at this video. This is talking some real. And you said man, that from Patterson told you ain't in the street. It's literally shot with you. So validity don't. Which with that telling, that goes beyond. My mom don't listen to rats and my mother's never broke a law. So it's a character flaw. Exactly.

[Ice]

I'm not.

[Ish's friend]

And we keep taking our principles and our ethics that we were raised upon and thinking that the men masses have adopted them and they have not. The is out here making millions and millions of dollars. And when they get to that level, you know what they be saying? That small ass ghetto mindset that we grew up with.

[Mona]

Cool, cool. But I look at telling like a character, a character flaw. And I'm gonna tell you this. I listen to the rappers that they said told. I don't. I don't just cut off cause they rat. I think half these niggas is rats. So it's like it's not me being from the street. It still doesn't make it like. I'm just saying in general that's. And even when you ask the question about lying, I don't even know how to answer because I don't lie for a living. That corny. I think it's the I Think it's the weakest wackest for us to be talking about doing, going through. And you just lying about petty small. I can't even tell you what I would do because I don't do that. Nobody in this room make me feel that fearful that I gotta make up a lot of. You ain't the police. Ain't my. What am I lying? No, I never.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did this just.

[Mona]

Just too.

[Flip]

I'm not arguing a lot of celebrities. Again, I'm not talking about shine. Brian. At this point, a lot of celebrities. Celebrities build their brands off of lies.

[Ish]

People be out here talking about y' all wouldn't have sex with nobody out of wedlock.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

These is.

[Ish's friend]

Okay, so everybody.

[Ish]

These dudes be saying, yo, I wouldn't do xyz.

[Ice]

And these.

[Flip]

Let me finish Mo. These be suckers.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

The money stop. Don't stop coming in.

[Mona]

Right?

[Ish's friend]

So as long as the money don't stop coming in.

[Ish]

These is like I don't give a

[Ish's friend]

what the minority thinks.

[Ish]

I'm still getting.

[Ice]

Getting paid.

[Mona]

I would never.

[Ish]

You just said you listen to rappers that ratted.

[Ish's friend]

So you are.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You are putting income.

[Mona]

I don't disagree that I think we. You might have missed my point. But in general. Oh, I don't sleep with hoes. I don't. I made this amount of money before. I used to be a CEO. I them type of lies. I'm a legal therapist. That's strange to me. And I see adults lie like that all the time. It's the strangest, weirdest thing. It's like it shows. That's another one. It's a character flaw. It's the fact that I can't me and you gonna shoot this.

[Ish's friend]

Living my truth.

[Mona]

Yeah. We can talk about our experience and you making up. Get the out. That's like girly cool little kid. For the record, I don't want to hear that if you are going to

[Flip]

lie about having a degree. I hate every. Every. Every area you get a degree in has a different color. So if you get a Ph.D. it should be dark blue. If you get a side D, it should be yellow gold. I think it is education light blue. So it's just a very easy tell. When you see somebody with the wrong color hood, you know that they didn't.

[Joe Button]

You're saying that light blue was the wrong color?

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yes.

[Flip]

Her light. Light blue is for education. So unless she had a doctor of education degree, which she doesn't claim to have. She claims to have a doctor of psychology degree. That's the wrong one. It's just the wrong hood, so no. No institution would give you that.

[Joe Button]

Did you zoom. Did you zoom in to look at all of the plaques that she was standing in front of? His certificates and stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

There.

[Ice]

There was a.

[Flip]

There was one from her bachelor's. There was one from Gordon Phillips Beauty Academy. There was one from Pink Co. Don't worry about it.

[Joe Button]

I got it.

[Flip]

Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We got.

[Joe Button]

I'm done with you.

[Flip]

Thank you.

[Joe Button]

Thank you very much. Thank you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Well, in other news.

[Joe Button]

Look at you, man. What? Yeah.

[Flip]

You realize staying tall, man.

[Joe Button]

No, he do sometimes. Sometimes. He's solid, man.

[Flip]

He always solid.

[Joe Button]

He sat there through talking about. No, you a good man. I thought you was going to storm off. I did, man. You changed.

[Mona]

Is. Got too many friends, and I can't be your sister. If you got 100 sisters, that ain't going to work.

[Ish's friend]

Yo, dog, I don't even know, bro. I can speak objectively about a topic. Yo, why.

[Ice]

Why do.

[Mona]

Why do you get so. What.

[Joe Button]

And you know Mandy and you know,

[Mark Lamont Hill]

it's that Joe's talk.

[Flip]

And we're back.

[Mice]

Was talking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you talking about?

[Joe Button]

Oh, my God.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, so in other news, can I tell y', all, I love Anytime Lauren

[Joe Button]

derosa, because I wake up early. I wake up at, like, 5:00am 5:30, and they show starts at, like, 6:00am The Breakfast Club, I think.

[Big Freeze]

Okay.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I be up when Lauren DeRosa LaRosa sees, like, when she follows up on news stories.

[Flip]

She's a beast.

[Mona]

A beast.

[Joe Button]

She follows up on everything.

[Flip]

Yes.

[Joe Button]

And she. That's still, like, the TMZ in her. Like, she. She reports it, like she's still a tmz. Hey, y', all, I just got word, like, from one of my sources that Sean Combs is in solitary confinement because he attacked an inmate or ended up choking an in inmate. And he's in the hole.

[Big Freeze]

That's how he got in there in the first place.

[Flip]

I promise.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I promise you.

[Mona]

I never for a second worried about him, like, in there. Like, I never. I, Like, I feel like he gonna get busy. Like, he's gonna get busy. He's gonna get violent if he have

[Flip]

to, like, apparently being pretty bad. In addition, reports say, in addition to choking him out, that he actually beat him down pretty bad.

[Mona]

Yeah, I still surprised. He probably told that to do something. He ain't do it.

[Joe Button]

I mean, I agree with you. I never thought he would have a problem. A problem taking care of himself in. In Fort Dicks.

[Mona]

How many times? Why you say that? Why you say that? It's for dick camp. Are you saying, like, it's a minimum security camp type? Oh, I ain't think they do for. No, but Fort Dicks has two. Two spots. A camp in all places.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Like, we got a Fort Dicks expert in case we need like. No, my dad was in Fort Dicks.

[Mona]

I was in FTC on a D.C.

[Joe Button]

yeah.

[Mona]

I went. I did the baby. I like your.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, all right. You are such a gc. So ratchet.

[Ice]

What?

[Mona]

What did daddy say back? That's the medium. I know, Pop. She ain't have to knock me down like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my God.

[Mona]

That's the medium. Girl, I was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, I wasn't trying to say that. I just never thought, like, I.

[Joe Button]

Who is like.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I just never thought Puff would have. Puff can defend himself and attack you.

[Ish]

He will.

[Mona]

And he's very, like, diabolical. Like, in prison. I don't think people. I don't know if people realize, like, like, how.

[Ish's friend]

How like mental games.

[Mona]

Yeah. That they play. Like, it's so many times where people. Even my father. My father got a jail. Like, the way he thinks is different than 10 years. People that do them biz, sometimes they don't ever adjust back to regular life because they're so diabolical. Blue chest pieces moving around. And in my day.

[Ice]

All right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Okay.

[Ish's friend]

Anything to show that, though.

[Ice]

Any reason.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Shake that shit. Shake that shit Moving.

[Mice]

Hey.

[Ice]

Hey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's so hard to pick one. Hey.

[Ish]

I want the thin one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, God. Ice, please. I want the thin one.

[Big Freeze]

When Joe and I just get to harmonize it, boy.

[Ice]

Oh, shit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm glad you said that.

[Mona]

Boy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I was scrolling the gram and thought that I found something that was just for my boy free.

[Joe Button]

But it was a three in one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I saw Freeze Parks and it's. I said, oh, this must be hot. I took a picture of it.

[Ice]

You know what?

[Big Freeze]

I'm about to start.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You've been saying that for years. You've been saying that for years.

[Ish]

Listen, I wasn't the guy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Listen, y' all go ahead and talk. Let's find a topic.

[Ish]

No, hell, no.

[Big Freeze]

I got to wait for you to say the name so I can bleep it out.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This crazy.

[Ish]

The is a three and one. Oh, my Lord.

[Joe Button]

Where the is my picture at?

[Big Freeze]

Oh, too bad. He lost it, so my baby must have been.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm getting to that picture. Three and one. I said, oh, I got to save this boy. They trying to bring trains back. Anywho, what else is important? What else is important? Unimportant, hopefully. Hopefully. Puff is all Right, man.

[Flip]

Oh, this may affect by the way

[Mona]

his that got choked. His eye.

[Flip]

Yeah, the dude that got choked. You know, we don't know his. His.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I ain't hoping that that nigga's all right. I feel like that had it coming. You walked by Puff Sale and you said something you shouldn't have said. Hey, all that shiny baby oil, you ass.

[Ish's friend]

Pop said, take that, take that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, Puff into what he into. But you can't just say what you

[Ish]

want to say to him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That ain't about to change.

[Ish]

The got a temple, so I don't

[Ish's friend]

know if they get rich.

[Mona]

And it ain't no drugs in there.

[Flip]

Yeah, I don't know what happened in that interaction, but I do know he ended up in the hole in dicks. And he is looking at it. He was looking at a February 2020

[Joe Button]

game in the hole.

[Mona]

In the hole in dicks. Like, I just want to know. Getting this shit off and CNN the whole time, like cnn, you don't know. Cuz the day everybody in the room not catching it.

[Flip]

But February 2028 was his release date, right? So it'll be interesting to see if it affects that. You know, cuz some of this is good behavior, bad behavior.

[Joe Button]

Well, I found it.

[Mona]

Yeah, they give you 59 days on each year with the feds, and you lose them when you go to the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So your boy go.

[Flip]

We've lost Joe. He's on to something else.

[Ish]

Go turn the phone again.

[Joe Button]

Found it.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. You better believe it out, boy. That's.

[Ice]

She's a father.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

She's a monster.

[Mona]

That's.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's all right. That's a.

[Joe Button]

You way too little like that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Hey, when they way too small. That's AI.

[Joe Button]

All three of them there, boy. Look at

[Mark Lamont Hill]

any.

[Ice]

Who.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What else is important? Unimportant.

[Ish]

Yo, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ish's friend]

I see a nice little white shirt

[Ish]

shirt floating on the same person.

[Big Freeze]

Ah, look at that. Look at that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I had to do that in case I lost it.

[Ish]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Ice]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You a won't find another one, Joe.

[Ish's friend]

You could screenshot it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You won't find another one.

[Ish]

How much you want to bet?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want to bet.

[Ice]

Quick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Two.

[Ish]

Two pitches down.

[Joe Button]

You won't find another one.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Oh, my God.

[Big Freeze]

Ain't no more.

[Flip]

We heard from management.

[Ish]

Yeah, ain't no more.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I gotta change that shirt.

[Joe Button]

That shirt is too noticeable when I'm doing my. When I'm doing my numbers.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What's your numbers? Hey, hey, look at Parks unliking. I'll take them back.

[Big Freeze]

I don't take them back.

[Flip]

Want the dick one? I want the dick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. Yo. While they find another story for us to get to, I want to say that I will Steven Spielberg up if I see him.

[Big Freeze]

Wait, what?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Steven Spielberg? I don't know. What's up with you dog?

[Big Freeze]

Found another one, I think.

[Ish]

No, I didn't. I didn't find another one. I didn't find another.

[Flip]

Go ahead.

[Ish]

Steven Spielberg.

[Joe Button]

God God damn it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Steven Spielberg. Right. So in the movies I was gonna run to the movie theater.

[Joe Button]

This is for at least two months

[Mark Lamont Hill]

now and check out disclosure day same

[Joe Button]

I was going to the movies to

[Mark Lamont Hill]

see it but I never got a chance to get to the movie theater to catch it. So now I'm waiting for it it on Apple.

[Joe Button]

I'm waiting for it. I'm waiting for it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And hit bong. I buy it right away. My girl like yo, what the is this?

[Ice]

What you doing?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I said B. I don't know what it's about but it's Steven Spielberg. But it's Steven Spielberg and this was his summer blockbuster.

[Joe Button]

Sure was.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So I'm watching it. I don't have to know what it's about for sure.

[Big Freeze]

I want to see it too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

And I press play.

[Ish]

I watched it yesterday.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Boy oh boy when I tell you and I know you are sick of my movie reviews because I just come in here and say the same. Everything is trash. But this one.

[Joe Button]

This is some special trash.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It is. This is some special trash here.

[Flip]

Trash.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This made me say maybe Steven Spielberg just fell the off and nobody knew.

[Flip]

No way.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuz Steven Spielberg I know wouldn't even put his name on disclosure day. Which is for all intents and purposes like a very bad. It does it looks like a very bad version of like E.T. it's about like aliens and alien energy.

[Big Freeze]

It's part of.

[Ish]

No no no no no. That's not what it's about. What is it about the movie is about? It's a whistleblower who. Who leaks out the fact that the government they've been hiding that there is aliens aliens they have them actual proof the whole. And he was supposed to trust transport something somewhere they the government been using alien technology? Well not the government but like one of them top tech companies been using alien technology.

[Big Freeze]

I do. I do have. I do have a slight update. It's been a while. I'm just gonna read back Disclosure Day the Fableman's west side story ready player 1 the post BFG it was okay. The Bridge of Spies Lincoln fell asleep very quickly. That one warhorse the adventures of tintin. This is 2011. Indiana Jones and the crystal skull, Munich, War of the worlds, the terminal, or catch me if you can't. It's 2002. That was the last line.

[Ish]

Oh, it's always oh, we can pack him up.

[Big Freeze]

You can pack him up.

[Ish]

Yeah, you pack him up.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. That's how I knew I was old. Steven Spielberg.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That name sound bad like that. And you know what made it worse that I just saw Odyssey, right?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

I can't.

[Ish]

That was a talk I can't stop thinking about. It was like Spielberg and Nolan both dropping a month apart. We got two blockbusters. That was the talk before disclosure.

[Joe Button]

That is disrespectful to Christopher. To the Nolan.

[Ish]

Absolutely.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

That's disrespectful,

[Ish]

everybody.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Seriously, Homeboy that just did that whole Homeboy that just did that whole pigs witch scene in Odyssey with no CGI or animatronics. Yeah, leave him out of this. But I just didn't know Steven Spielberg was that bad. The movie is horrible.

[Ish]

Movie is terrible.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It was so bad. I rewound it to record some and put it on Instagram, but they blocked me, though.

[Joe Button]

Oh, this is Steven Spielberg stuff, so you can't put it up here. Suck my dick.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Horrible. Cuz at the end, they get. They find the alien, the alien come to the news station, chop it up.

[Flip]

You being serious?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They think I'm. They think I'm lying.

[Ice]

Are you being serious?

[Joe Button]

I promise you ain't just kicking.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

They find the. The alien, the alien comes. This is why I don't want to hear that. I used to mouth, no, I'm homeboy. That was.

[Ish]

I'm saying it's bad.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The government person that was trying to kill the. That had the information, they friends. Everybody friends. At the end, they all sitting down looking at an alien, doing some etg. I'll show you the clip. I would play it, but it's not audio. Actually, you know what?

[Joe Button]

I'm playing it.

[Big Freeze]

I'm playing.

[Joe Button]

I'm playing it.

[Ish]

I'm telling you, like, it's that bad. This is one of them cases where you got a big name director and then the trailer for the bad, right?

[Ish's friend]

You.

[Ish]

You thought it was going to look

[Ish's friend]

a certain way tough.

[Ish]

The trailer was absolutely tough. And then you see Spielberg. So you're like, okay, we got one Spielberg.

[Joe Button]

Y' all know your middle name? Oh, this is me.

[Big Freeze]

Hell, Adam.

[Joe Button]

Damn it. This disclosure day. No, on God. Oh, my God. I almost went to see this in the. Hey, I'mma send you this clip. Erickson. I am. Let's see if this is it.

[Mona]

It's a real news station.

[Joe Button]

All right.

[Ish]

I'm telling you something.

[Joe Button]

Oh, there's no words. It's just this alien

[Flip]

was tight.

[Joe Button]

Yo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I could have killed. And the movie ain't no short movie. No, it's two and a half.

[Big Freeze]

It's been a while, but it might be over.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

No, it's over. Pack him up.

[Ice]

Pack him up.

[Mona]

Had a good run, y'. All.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, for sure. Legend.

[Ish]

Absolute legend.

[Ice]

Absolutely.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Just move out the way when real is out there.

[Ice]

24 years play with Steven, but you still can't play Steven Spoo.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Come on, you.

[Ice]

You allowed some bad joints.

[Big Freeze]

24 years of bad joints is not.

[Ish]

It's a long run of bad of bad joints.

[Ice]

Some of them shits parks red was. Was I.

[Ish's friend]

Some of them war.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The world wasn't the worst. All right, all right, all right.

[Joe Button]

Come on. Go ahead.

[Ish's friend]

Warhorse wasn't horrible. I mean, some of the shits I

[Joe Button]

ain't see but up.

[Ice]

Never back him up.

[Ish]

The bar you got Spielberg at, I'm saying you.

[Big Freeze]

He did SA Private Ryan, bro.

[Ish]

And that's what I'm saying.

[Big Freeze]

Like the bar he got Schindler's List. Come on, dog, there's too much heat. Look how. No you're not.

[Mona]

Water work was the class 25 years

[Ish]

of was his last good movie.

[Big Freeze]

Catch me if you can. 2002.

[Mona]

Oh, that's

[Big Freeze]

amazing movie.

[Mona]

That's a great movie.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Amazing movie. Catch me if you can. Schindler's List and Savior Private Ryan don't

[Joe Button]

go with none of them movies either.

[Big Freeze]

He's got more of that.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Maybe something's going. Maybe something's going on with Steven Spielberg now. Yeah, he might be doing that like Timberland did when he made Danger produce

[Joe Button]

everything and just kept putting his name on it. Could be that shout out to Timberland.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yeah, I'm not going to play. I'm. I'm not going to play that girl that's going to viral dissing you.

[Joe Button]

Timberland.

[Mona]

Water world was in success, but people

[Ice]

really like yes, he. You guys talking about Stephen B. There's some people that's in the movie field that's allowed bad things. Like if we look at George Lucas, he doesn't have. He hasn't had. He had one bad Star wars, but other than that, like we still are going to hold him high. He doesn't hold him high but still

[Big Freeze]

hold Steven Spielberg high. It's just over there.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm holding him high too. Over the dumpster trash that nigga the

[Ish]

point, though, look at the ratio. We just talking about the ratio. So after 2002, you might have one good or two good. Great movies.

[Flip]

Great.

[Ish's friend]

Ready?

[Ish]

Player One wasn't trash. I love Ready Player One personally.

[Big Freeze]

It was cool.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Not trash.

[Ish]

No, not trash, but not great.

[Mice]

It's.

[Ish]

It's way more trash than goodness.

[Flip]

What, you mean recently?

[Ish]

Since 2002.

[Flip]

Oh, yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, that'd be like.

[Ish]

That's a long time.

[Big Freeze]

Hey, there would be one thing if it was only two movies.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

There was a man of them.

[Ice]

I got, I got it. Okay.

[Joe Button]

Yo, Steven Spielberg. I don't know what's going on with you. I hope everything is well, but I probably won't watch no more your movies.

[Mona]

Damn.

[Flip]

Can't say that I won't go that far.

[Ish's friend]

Leave him alone, bro.

[Ice]

Yeah, go watch.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Watch this. Closer.

[Ish's friend]

He's him.

[Flip]

Okay?

[Ish]

Please watch it. I'm looking at this.

[Flip]

You ain't going to finish it, but just start it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Fast forward it to the end.

[Ish]

No, watch it.

[Flip]

Y. I'll watch it.

[Ice]

Whatever you waiting for, you going to be. Because y' all watch Odyssey first.

[Ish]

I didn't see Odyssey, so.

[Big Freeze]

No, you should go see Odyssey.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Odyssey, yes, is the answer to that. You should not watch Disclosure day after Odyssey two to three weeks a month

[Joe Button]

after you've seen Odyssey. That shouldn't happen. Honestly.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

See Odyssey, yo, but we ain't going to talk about that.

[Joe Button]

Dune is coming soon.

[Ish]

Joe, you keep playing, they'll learn them. He'll walk it back.

[Ish's friend]

Watch what them numbers look.

[Ish]

No, no, he'll walk it back.

[Big Freeze]

Them might be fire.

[Joe Button]

I don't understand what y' all talking about, cuz.

[Ish]

You know, watch, Keep playing with do Dune coming.

[Ish's friend]

Watch what the numbers look like.

[Joe Button]

Is Dune not coming?

[Ish]

Yes.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

So then I didn't say nothing wrong, you ass.

[Joe Button]

D is coming.

[Ice]

Have you seen the first 2?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Z Doomsday.

[Ice]

And it's real good?

[Ish's friend]

Yes.

[Ice]

Like Avatar good or it's good?

[Ish]

No, it's not. Not Avatar good.

[Ice]

Okay, so Avatar passes it as far as good.

[Joe Button]

Should have backfired again. Said Dune was joking around. Now we in a Doom segment. Your man it this bad boy. You a Duner?

[Ice]

Hell no. I only watched Star Wars. I never saw Dune.

[Big Freeze]

Yes, you did.

[Ish]

I didn't.

[Ice]

I watched Star Wars.

[Big Freeze]

You see that? You loved it.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

D. Dune got the IMAX theaters.

[Big Freeze]

It did. I think it was.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, they won. They won the beat.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

The Doomsday beat.

[Big Freeze]

That's what streets told me.

[Ish]

I, I, I think that is what happened because now I'm noticing Nobody the avenger about the Doomsday is saying something called Infinity Vision, which I've never heard of. I mean I'm not saying it didn't exist. I've never seen them promoting this is an Infinity Vision. I was like what the is that?

[Big Freeze]

They got some new D, kicked our ass.

[Ish]

So we had to pivot.

[Big Freeze]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ice]

Dude ain't with Star. I mean that Star was Water World was a classic.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Water World.

[Mona]

Yes.

[Big Freeze]

So is the water boy.

[Joe Button]

All right, so was Sharknado then. Come on, Water World, people.

[Mona]

The world didn't do well and critics talk about it, but it's like a cult classic.

[Ish's friend]

The one where the had the. The gills.

[Big Freeze]

Kevin Costner.

[Mona]

Kevin Costner. Cuz they turned the pizza water so they could drink.

[Ish's friend]

That was kaka.

[Mona]

They were de.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I did want to mention.

[Joe Button]

Just cuz this is. We got a lot of male listeners in the audience and this is always a fun topic when child support orders come in and we bring. We break it down. This one ain't even come across my desk when girl told me this one.

[Ish]

Which one?

[Joe Button]

Devin Haney.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cracked.

[Joe Button]

They got him cracked.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

20k per month.

[Ish's friend]

To who?

[Joe Button]

One kid.

[Flip]

How old?

[Joe Button]

One years old.

[Ish's friend]

Oh sh.

[Mice]

New York.

[Joe Button]

What do you mean to. No, I think she's in. Lena is in la. I want to say, but look that up.

[Ish]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'm not a journalist. 20k on a kid.

[Ish's friend]

How much he make?

[Mona]

I'm wondering what that would be like.

[Joe Button]

I don't know what that make. I have no idea what he make that matters. I know I like his dad. Why does it matter?

[Ish's friend]

Cuz they based on that.

[Ice]

Los Angeles.

[Flip]

I think child support should be based on income. I don't think everybody should pay the same child.

[Joe Button]

Child support should be based on income up until what threshold?

[Flip]

I don't know.

[Joe Button]

And I'm not gonna argue about it. I'm just.

[Flip]

I was just asking how much he made. Just because.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What I'm saying is there's a world.

[Ish]

I have an answer. I have an answer. The calculation used a gross monthly income of $435,699. Yeah, that's his monthly.

[Mona]

That ain't shit.

[Flip]

I'm not saying 20,000 is right or wrong or fair. I'm saying that. I was just saying calculating someone's income for me is matters. And I could see a world where somebody made it up enough income where $20,000 would make sense. I'm not saying that that's the number. My gut tells me that shouldn't be the number. It feels kind of high for that amount. But I'm just saying I do think income should matter, age should matter of the kid.

[Joe Button]

20k for a 1 year old

[Ish's friend]

at some point. And I'm gonna leave this conversation alone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cause me too, because I don't come, I don't fuck in la.

[Ish]

It don't really be no good answer.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't fucking la.

[Ish's friend]

But at some point it starts to be income or it goes away from child support after a certain point in time.

[Joe Button]

Do you agree or disagree?

[Flip]

You mean in practice or.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah, like let's say hypothetical because I remember it was Jimmy Butler, right?

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Ish's friend]

I think Jimmy Butler shit was like 50k and his baby mom was trying to get more bread and she wanted like 70 or some shit like that. And my story was, yo, at 50, what can't you do for a child at 50k a month? So at some point it stops being about taking care of the child effectively and to just generate an income from my.

[Flip]

I mean, but if it's all percentage,

[Ish]

but if it's all percentage based and let's say the 50k number is what they, they got off of certain percentages and then you hear, you get, you know, he's making more, a lot more. Because a lot of times it's not good. It ain't calm peaceful waters between them parents. So if they know they get X percent of that number and now that number has drastically increased to this number, they going to go back for X percent of that number.

[Ish's friend]

I can speak to New York, I can't speak for other states, but it stops at a certain point in income. Okay, so New York, if One child is 17%, okay. Of whatever your, your income is.

[Ish]

So the income increases though, let me tell you.

[Ish's friend]

Okay, but at a certain, certain point it stops being 17. So if you make $10 million a year, it's no longer 17. It's a threshold which the 17 stops.

[Flip]

And so it happens if I made $100 million in a year or $50 million in a year, let's use the NBA salary. Yeah. I don't think that that percentage should be the same as somebody who makes a million dollars or half a million dollars. I agree with that totally. I think at some point, like you said, it has to be about taking care of the child. But again, I could see a world where $50,000 wouldn't be enough or would be the right number depending on what the person makes. Because part of what you're thinking about is the quality of life of the child. And should that match the quality of life of the parents. And there's a way that it does, I agree, de facto become income because if, for example, I need to pay, I'm using this to pay. So this child could live in this kind of house, you also living in that house, you also living in that apartment. So in that way, yeah, it does. And I don't, I'm not making a judgment about it. I'm just saying I agree with that, that kind of analysis. But I think that's okay. And I'm not sure that it should matter how old the kid is. Like for example, at 1, a 1 year old needs to have certain needs that a 3 year, that a 3 year old doesn't need have. There's a way that sometimes at 15, honestly I spent less money in some ways on my kid at 15 than I did at 2 or 3 because of like needing certain kinds of childcare, needing certain, certain kinds of food support, et cetera. So I think, I think it depends on the situation.

[Ish]

Real quick, let me just jump in real fast. California does not have an income cap. So whether it be 200,000 a year, 1 million a year, 5 million, 20 million, the formula still applies, which is in California. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's. They take, you know, your net income and split it over parenting time. And yeah, yeah.

[Flip]

If I'm Elon Musk and I have a kid, I don't necessarily think that. And again, I'm not defending Elon Musk's wealth, to be clear, but I'm just saying if I'm Elon Musk and I made $50 billion that year and I have a kid, I don't think the kid should get. Would it be 5 billion or whatever. I'm not good with math, whatever that is. I think that'd be absurd. That would seem absurd to me.

[Ice]

Listen, Anthony Edwards just got his child the child support. You know, she tried to go back,

[Flip]

that's where we going.

[Ice]

She tried to go back and get increase him to pay increase and she wasn't able to prove actually she was a no show.

[Ish]

She didn't even show up.

[Ice]

So what it is, they brought it down. He was paying 5,000amonth and he paid 20,000 initially, then 5,000amonth and now it's, and then now it's $3,222. So she got a decrease.

[Flip]

Now that's too low, but you also, you got to show up too low, but you got to show up.

[Mice]

You.

[Ice]

They said that her income was 0, $3,000 richer. She went in there, they said that she Told the court that she had a zero. Zero income.

[Flip]

I'm saying based on the rules. I'm just saying a lot.

[Ish]

Of course. Don't allow that.

[Flip]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Just because you say you have no income, you still have to. They're not gonna keep you at a zero and say, all right, this person has to provide everything. You have parenting time. If you. If you're splitting custody, they're gonna say you still have to provide a, B, C, D for yourself, so you gotta get a job.

[Joe Button]

Let's hear from a baby mama on there.

[Mona]

Not. Question is, y' all talk about this. Are you coming from the standpoint of the girl that is using a baby for a hustle? Are you coming from the standpoint of the girl that was maybe in a relationship with a guy and he started going upside her head or he said he ain't want her for the cuter or whatever? Is it a difference in your opinion when a situation like that, somebody that's hustling versus somebody that. Because I thought the situation with the. You just said. I thought his whole thing was. What's his name? Anthony.

[Ish]

Anthony.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Mona]

I thought his whole thing was. Look, I don't want to. That. I told you, take what you want. I'll catch you.

[Big Freeze]

No, that's.

[Joe Button]

That's what the kid, he didn't want. Yeah.

[Mona]

Oh, he lost that too.

[Ish]

The only one. He tried to pay that for the.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

This is what he wanted.

[Joe Button]

This is what girl he with the

[Mark Lamont Hill]

baby they just had.

[Ish]

I paid a phone.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. He didn't want nothing to do with the other kid.

[Mona]

I. I respected it. I don't know. I didn't really mind it. Cuz you're still taking care of your responsibility. At the end of the day, my thoughts on this is like twofold because I. I don't know if you're supposed to say way.

[Joe Button]

That's still taking care of responsibility.

[Mona]

What you give, if you pay, he pays financially. This is my thing, y'.

[Big Freeze]

All.

[Mona]

This is my thing. We all get that. If damn me, Manny, we have and I get pregnant, right? And Imani say, look, it was just one night saying, I don't want no baby. And I say, well, that I want my baby. Right. In a lot of situations, the girl said, we don't need you anyway. I'm having my baby. Right.

[Ish]

Okay.

[Mona]

My thing is, once we make that decision, why the you come back on this three and a half. I don't get it. Because it get hard. I said I didn't want this and we had this conversation. My thing is it's no male birth control people. Now, it takes two to tango, right? We're both. We having fun. If we're. And we know we don't want no baby. The fact that you can decide, okay, well, I'm having this baby. I'm keeping this baby. Regardless of what our situation is, right?

[Ish]

Her body, her choice.

[Mona]

I feel like it's supposed to, and that's what it is, but I just feel like something has to change about their system. I have friends. I do. I think so. I don't.

[Ish]

You know what changes about that system? If you don't want no kids, go get clipped. I say it all the time. If you know for a fact you don't want them kids, go get clipped. If you think maybe down the line I might want something, you freeze your sperm. That's what. Think that they. Think that they.

[Ice]

I'm feeling you.

[Ish]

I'm just thinking about that. Think that, yo, I can have that talk and talk you out of doing this. When her mind is made up. Her mind made up up. Y' all in that boat now. Now you got to live with it.

[Joe Button]

Now we got to do it, though.

[Mona]

Now.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You can't say that.

[Joe Button]

I'm trying. We trying. We trying to make money.

[Mona]

What I'm saying to you guys is there needs to be some kind of something. And I know if anybody here feels me, the yellow one does. I think that it's to get in a situation with A and y' all going back and forth, because I've seen. Seen it happen before millions of times. And you and this make a decision where it's like, yo, we don't need you. We don't need you. We moving on. I just think it's crazy. Once you make decision why we can't sign a paper, and it's like, all right, boom.

[Ish]

That's totally different.

[Flip]

We don't need you. I'm with you. If.

[Mona]

If you say, but I've seen that happen. I've seen.

[Ish's friend]

The state will not honor that.

[Mona]

I've seen. And I know that.

[Flip]

No, but what I'm saying is. That's what I'm talking about.

[Mona]

I've seen the discussion stop because she says you. Then I think it's trifling that you don't want to do it with me anyway. So I don't want you around anyway. I've seen that happen, and I've seen that change from a year all the way to 10 years come back. At the end of the day, it does take two to tango, but the woman has complete control over the situation. So, yes, you should be more careful with your, you know, you're seeing it. Yeah, but come on.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah, I think they gonna drag me to this.

[Mona]

No, I don't care.

[Ish's friend]

I'm in the middle.

[Mona]

I really don't. I don't care.

[Ish's friend]

I'm just saying I'm in the middle. I understand ISIS perspective that you as a man, if you know, you on a short, short end of that stick with regards to your ability to control that narrative or that situation, then you should take the proper precautions.

[Mona]

Yeah, he's right. He is absolutely.

[Ish's friend]

Like robbing a bank. Like, if you know you don't want to go to jail, don't rob.

[Mona]

No, you're absolutely right about that. But the girl that do that the other way.

[Ish's friend]

Okay, so. And I understand your perspective as well, that, yo, the women are in control. And if a man, you take his choice away, then you should be stuck with that.

[Mona]

If y' all agree.

[Ish's friend]

But ISIS is the safest place, so I'm gonna run.

[Ish]

Reason why I disagree with that.

[Mona]

And it could be reversed.

[Ish]

Let me just tell you. Let me just. Within 10 years, it's easier. After that, it becomes harder. Reason why I disagree with that is because, yes, the woman might feel that way or all of that. The kid who didn't ask to be here, who got nothing to do with this, gets fucked. Yeah, it's about the kid. At the end of the day, the woman could have said that shit emotionally because she mad at you and you didn't say what you wanted. Women is emotional emotions and. And hormones and be going. So the. She said in that moment that kid shouldn't have to suffer for the rest of their life because she said some emotional.

[Mona]

I think the reason why I just can't relate because me and my friends, me and my friends, me and my peers, me and my people, whoever, when that say, I don't want that baby, that's it. Nobody.

[Flip]

Me and my son, we're not.

[Mona]

No, we're not bringing the baby.

[Flip]

I was trying to make a pivot to my song. I was to just trying to get out, that's all.

[Mice]

So.

[Flip]

No, he's wrapped it.

[Ice]

We rap.

[Flip]

Keep going. We. We rap twice. All right, go ahead.

[Joe Button]

Yes, we wrapped it. It's over. I knew that that child support topic would. Would get y' all here. It never fails in here. Let's get a little bit of mic.

[Flip]

Come on.

[Big Freeze]

There we go.

[Joe Button]

Let's get it right. I got to add that to the topics that may trigger the room,

[Ice]

bae.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right. We have been blessed With a brand new my son freestyle.

[Joe Button]

My son dropped a freestyle about Ho. Ma you my man. But in no other world would I be cutting off Michael Jackson to play a my song freestyle. But we gonna play it. Did y' all hear this?

[Big Freeze]

I did not.

[Flip]

I didn't hear this.

[Ish's friend]

Yeah, I heard it.

[Mice]

This is my letter to hov. Now first let me stop. And there ain't nobody better than hov. You set a bar for bar as well you in Nas. But as far as world impact and

[Ish]

rap, you did that.

[Mice]

You went from a kid that pitched crack and spit facts to a rich black mogul. In fact, your global impact should be studied. Cause shit we studied reasonable doubt. And the way you was weaving in and out of those beats and speaking about those streets, how we was to trying, trying to eat, move and work, doing dirt without no cleats was masterful. That's why 30 years later, those masterpieces are so classical. And the stature you require deserves to be admired because you inspired a generation. You showed us that dedication could lead to elevation from a project boy that sold illegal medication to hold the cultural leader of a nation. And you gave the streets education. And a revelation that escaping death and incarceration was more than a possibility. You embraced the responsibility of breaking down doors and invading corporate America, using punchlines in similes to break it down for us. You did exactly what you told us. You made them pay for what they did to the cult crush that was so tough. But heavy is the head that wears the crown. Now everywhere you turn, they trying to tear you down. You either Illuminati or being sued by by somebody or somebody talking about you while they being interviewed by somebody lucky you like you described in Lucky Me. But you still navigate through it like a G. And they act like they don't see how you've been standing up for blacks. Solidly standing in the gaps from Trayvon and Cap. And I know what really happened with that. But we ain't talking about that. I'm talking about the facts. Fighting for blacks for real. It's my man back home from jail and silently funding the movement and fitting the bill and still taking the shots from your owner at the top of the throne. You all alone, but it don't make you immune from the pain when the same culture you fought with the vulture.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

It's a little lengthy pause trying to ruin your name.

[Joe Button]

That shit gotta hurt.

[Mice]

I know. Cause it hurts me. It hurts to see. But it also hurts to be the subject of such slander when you front lining for your people and These suckers talk about you and such. Your manner, that shit be mind blowing. You try not bothering even responding. But you a man with pride. So you decide to bust back like fuck that. And I love that. But this time you shot your own allies, ho. Cause we was the ones boycotting. We had our people avoiding shopping at Target. They lost billions pleading with us to put them back on the market. Sure, Metangugu was guilty too. But history and strategy told us that Target was our target.

[Joe Button]

Thank you. My song. That was my song. Well done.

[Big Freeze]

Well done.

[Flip]

Salute to him. I love him.

[Joe Button]

That's my friend of the show. That's my brother.

[Ish's friend]

Thoughts?

[Flip]

I mean, y' all know where I stand on it.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. I never want to answer again. I don't be wanting. I like people like using their ability to talk to people in the mess. I like that.

[Flip]

I. I'm.

[Joe Button]

I don't want to hear Ramen Hole.

[Big Freeze]

He could have put it on a beat.

[Ish]

Nah, now if you put it on

[Joe Button]

a beat, that's different. Yeah.

[Big Freeze]

I'm just saying for replay value, like it's dope to us do once like this.

[Joe Button]

I got a Lance on Rivera hoe verse acapella the other day or not or whatever the. Yeah, now I got a Mice hov acapella. It's just like.

[Ish]

But this starts from a hov acapella.

[Mice]

Yes.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying? That's how it starts. That's. We can't forget that part.

[Joe Button]

Not to me. They there one word is important in hov. Acapella.

[Flip]

Hov.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

That didn't mean for me that it was acapella time for again. I'm.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

And I'm not talking directly to Mice, cuz Mice has a message that he doing here.

[Big Freeze]

But Mice is super.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't want to hear all these acapellas what I.

[Flip]

What I like. I mean, I probably would like it on a beat too, but I thought it was dope. It was my first time here and I gotta replay it to get all the specifics, but I thought it was dope. And I love when people who are in positions like him speak truth to power. Like it's hard to speak to criticize Jay Z as a rapper. It's hard to criticize an institution or whatever. And so for him to do that and put something at risk to me is admirable, whether you agree with him or not. And I happen to agree with him. But even if you don't, I still appreciate the courage to stand up and speak out. Because a lot of People won't do that.

[Joe Button]

Yeah. And Mice went to Ferguson.

[Ish]

Look, I think that.

[Ish's friend]

I think the positivity. I think the positive. The positivity piece is. Is greater than the negativity piece. I think that what's. Most times when people critique you, they just start critiquing you from a negative perspective. So you immediately cut it off and you're going to just close down. You're not going to listen to it. I think the fact that he the first. I don't know how many other bars it was all praise, all praise, all praise, all praise. And then you could tell me, yo, I was disappointed in this particular facet or this particular realm, but I still revere you up here. I think it's easier to digest than

[Ish]

motherfuckers just like, yo, you always do.

[Ish's friend]

You know what I'm saying? So.

[Flip]

Man is a good point.

[Ish's friend]

And he. From where you from. He's fighting similar fights that you're fighting. So again, I think it's easier to ingest coming from a my son than it would be coming from some podcast behind the couch.

[Ish]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Button]

Shout out to mice, man. Shout out to Mice. I appreciate the verse. Friend of the show. I love you. I hope you don't start a trend, man.

[Ish's friend]

He can't rap like.

[Ish]

Well, I don't want to hear that from him.

[Flip]

He rap too good.

[Ish's friend]

They can't rap like him.

[Ish]

The rap part, like, Mice is actually out there on the front lines. If. If there is somebody that can speak to this, it's him.

[Mice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

And he's just hoving.

[Ish's friend]

I mean, we fight in some of the same fights.

[Flip]

The reform stuff. They've worked together, fam.

[Ish]

We know like whole move behind the scenes with a lot of this shit when get locked up at all of these protests and stuff. It's holding them. That's bailing them out. And it's like. That's known. So it's like, yeah, I can speak to.

[Flip]

We.

[Ish]

I know you hold us down. I know you. You this. But here, you might have dropped the ball. You might have made a little misstep. Who better than the person that's right there that's really in the training trench is doing it?

[Joe Button]

Okay, I agree. I agree. Mice went to Ferguson, man. Stop playing with him.

[Ice]

Listen, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Huh?

[Joe Button]

And Kiki. That's right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Mark is such a run lines, baby. Stay away from 38 Tech.

[Flip]

I want to move Swift but don't

[Mona]

blow like John Gotti.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm something to watch like the paparazzi. What am I saying? What am I saying? Yo, I hope y' all enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you. You know I double check the safe

[Flip]

I take it all still be the

[Mona]

last escape Kick it like you tip

[Flip]

wicked and kill for a few chips

[Mona]

Got a new whip, new house, got

[Mark Lamont Hill]

a new zip code Watch the stroll,

[Mona]

little ace A soldier that was born

[Mark Lamont Hill]

to roll I love God, yo, keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we been bid you adieu, Farewell, adios, arrivederci, hasta la vista, au revoir, so long, goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this moment last as if it's all we have. Last but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel and the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol you might need needed. Hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute. Hey, what y' all on this weekend, man? It's the weekend. What y' all on? What y' all on? Summer jam.

[Ish]

Summer jam for sure.

[Big Freeze]

Summer jam.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Summer jam. Last night. All right, awesome, thanks. What else you guys doing?

[Ice]

What the else am I doing?

[Flip]

Nothing for me.

[Big Freeze]

Probably in studio, man.

[Flip]

All family.

[Ish]

I'm going to Grand Theft Auto all weekend, man.

[Big Freeze]

And then sleeping.

[Ish's friend]

I'm working.

[Ice]

You back on your twitch? I see you. Yeah, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

All right, so Parks is working.

[Big Freeze]

What you want?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Freeze is working. Ish is working. Mona work. Where you at?

[Joe Button]

Get this.

[Mona]

In Cleveland, Ohio, this Sunday at Sam Silks. And still tickets available. And I'm also at suite for 11 tonight.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Let's go.

[Flip]

Nice.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Go support my girl over there. That's why I ain't gonna tell y'

[Joe Button]

all what I think of when I hear Sam Silks. I ain't saying it. Y' all ain't tripping me.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What you want, Mark?

[Flip]

Family just chilling.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You driving down.

[Joe Button]

They had have a 100 with him.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You going have a face to face. That phone ain't cutting. Sometimes the phone ain't enough.

[Flip]

Sometime the phone is. Sometimes the phone is better.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, right.

[Flip]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ish]

I don't need somebody can beat you.

[Flip]

Yo, you right.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Think he can beat you.

[Big Freeze]

The phone.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

About to make very jealous. Icing every record untouchable can't with you.

[Joe Button]

This was nice, man. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I don't agree with that target.

[Joe Button]

But this.

[Ice]

But this,

[Flip]

cj, how?

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't play fair. We play foul. Go ahead, stand there. We spray crowds live from the 71. We out of here, man. What am I doing this weekend? What am I doing this weekend?

[Joe Button]

I.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

What am I doing this weekend? Whatever the boss say.

[Ice]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Family.

[Ish]

Whatever.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Whatever the boss say, man. Yeah.

[Joe Button]

I'll. I'll find something to get into.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

I'm telling. Yeah. It's movie time with the family.

[Joe Button]

I mean, we going to find a

[Mark Lamont Hill]

hard flick something good, right, baby?

[Joe Button]

Okay. My baby right there.

[Ish]

Just make sure you keep a little four minutes to the side for, you know, I mean, party.

[Joe Button]

We crash the party.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got to drink a lot of water.

[Ish]

You got.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Joe Button]

Yo, don't play with.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Yo, y' all hold it down. Have a real good weekend, man. Stay blessed, stay positive, stay parched, and stay on your grizzly, man. Y' all are down. Rest in peace, Prodigy. We do.

[Flip]

We want to send a quick rest in peace to Black ice. The legendary part. First spoken word. Poet signed to Def Jam Records. A legend. Philly's finest. Beautiful brother. Great spirit going far, far, far too soon. May you change the game. We love you. We miss you.

[Joe Button]

Yes, definitely. Rest in peace.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Any last thoughts on this LeBron Philly stuff? I'm let y' all get in your bag for the last time. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Ish]

I think we did it.

[Flip]

We've been there before, man.

[Mice]

We good.

[Mona]

Yeah.

[Ish]

Yeah.

[Flip]

Show them something light, man.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

We don't even trip. I hope we play. I hope we play, y'.

[Joe Button]

All.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Game one.

[Flip]

We going to play Celtics. Game one.

[Ish]

I bet you shout out to all the new Sixer fans out there, too.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Put your Knicks jersey up. Actually, you're going to need it again. Actually, you'll need it again.

[Joe Button]

We about to win again.

[Ish]

I already hit.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Cuffs, get your Knicks.

[Ish]

Welcome Cuffs. Welcome cuffs.

[Joe Button]

The over here, they going play the

[Ish's friend]

Knicks on Christmas watch.

[Flip]

That would be nice.

[Joe Button]

I just wish we played them on opening night so they could see us, you know what I mean? Get our ring.

[Flip]

Long night.

[Joe Button]

Put our banner up.

[Ish]

We got to take care of Boston open at night.

[Joe Button]

Yeah, that's going to be a real. You should go to that game.

[Flip]

I'll be there. I'm. I always go to home opener.

[Joe Button]

That's a good game.

[Flip]

I Bet I'm selling 30 other games.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Got cops sh to death for us. We don't like these.

[Joe Button]

Hear this blue blood get on my daughter.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Y' all hold it down. Have a real good weekend. Remember, Tupac cares if don't nobody else care. And that's me. I'm nobody else.

[Joe Button]

Open the club.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

With one thing on her mind. Let's leave with something.

[Mona]

Buddy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

You've never heard of Joe?

[Joe Button]

Buddy.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Jbp.

[Mona]

Jbp.

[Mark Lamont Hill]

Where would you be without the jvp

[Ice]

from the Web and Nitty era. It's the network.