Episode 950 | "The Honey Bun"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 950 | "The Honey Bun"
Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Joe Budden (A) with Queens Flip (B), Parks (C), Freeze (D), Dr. Marc Lamont Hill (E), and others

Episode Overview

Episode 950 of The Joe Budden Podcast, titled "The Honey Bun", is a classic, loosely-structured roundtable about hip-hop culture, recent diss records, music industry drama, viral internet moments, Summer Jam stories, and plenty of jokes. The crew gives their unfiltered hot takes on everything from jail “honey bun” stories to debates over dress codes at HBCUs, with notable detours into current (and controversial) news stories.

The main theme for this episode centers around hip-hop authenticity, music beefs, the lines between entertainment and real life, and the sometimes absurd culture cycles of the internet. While the content is largely humorous and irreverent, it occasionally pivots into deep discussion around music, politics, and community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Honey Bun" Jail Story

• [00:36–05:30]
  • Joe kicks off by explaining an internet story about the "honey bun" in jail—if you find one on your bed and eat it, there could be serious, threatening consequences.
  • The crew jokes about who would or wouldn't eat the honey bun, segues into comedic, often suggestive banter.
  • Quote: "If somebody put a honey bun in my bed... in Hudson County, they didn't do that to me. But if you can rap, spit a few verses, honey bun comes your way." (A, 02:31)
  • Extended jokes about what it would take to survive jail, what food is acceptable, and teasing each other about how they'd act inside; shoutouts to Hudson County and the "community" aspect of jail.

2. Relationship & Personal Life Updates

• [07:00–10:33]
  • Parks teased for not wearing his wedding ring due to finger injury (“silicone ring” jokes, marital rumors).
  • Applause for partners working with the show or doing joint gigs—jokes about “financial abuse” and “forms of control” in marriages.
  • Extended playful banter about using relationships for personal gain/content.

3. Summer Jam & 38 Spesh Diss Record

• [14:33–44:22]
  • Detailed critique of 38 Spesh’s diss track aimed at Jadakiss and Jim Jones, including the music’s presentation, beat selection (issues with the "bop" and tempo), and lyrical content.
  • Disapproval for bringing family (specifically Chrissy, Jim Jones' wife) into beef.
  • Discussion about protocol for "dissing wives" in hip-hop, linking it to current "new era" trends.
  • Debates over diss track effectiveness: “Was this the right beat? Was this the right move? Did Special shoot himself in the foot by not sticking to lyrical skill instead of cloud chasing?”
  • Quote: "Dissing Chrissy just seems like a total misstep... that's where you get to bozo land for me." (A, 37:47)
  • Discussion of hip-hop beef escalation (“It’s not rapping anymore, it’s entitlement and putting negative energy in the world”).
  • Consensus: Bad move, poor execution, and a moment of internet hype gone too far.

4. Bleek vs. Uncle Murda & Tony Yayo (Hip-Hop 'Dependents' Debate)

• [67:27–89:38]
  • Discussion on the public spat involving Memphis Bleek (Jay-Z’s protégé) and G-Unit members Uncle Murda and Tony Yayo about loyalty, dependency, and financial support from hip-hop bosses.
  • Analysis of Bleek's argument that Hov makes "bosses, not dependents" and Yayo/Murda’s claims about 50 Cent putting people on.
  • Side debates over jewelry, status, and public perception (“borrowing chains,” big homie vs. little homie energy).
  • Arguments about “bigging up your man” in public and how public recognition of support is perceived as weakness vs. brotherhood.
  • Quote: “There's a fine line between appreciating someone for assisting me and me cheerleading for them...” (D, 81:37)
  • Ultimately treated as a fun, mostly-innocuous 'content war', a sign of healthy competition and mutual ribbing within hip-hop.

5. Viral Internet Moments: Usher Concert "Bored Girl"

• [90:29–101:48]
  • Discussed the viral video of a woman looking bored while being serenaded by Usher at a concert (she later claims she wanted Chris Brown, not Usher).
  • Range of reactions from empathy (stage fright, not her vibe) to critiques about “ruining the moment” and performance expectations.
  • Quote: “When you pull from the audience, you get whatever you get. If it's a bad question, if it's a bad audience member, that's just what it is.” (A, 98:40)

6. Summer Jam 2026 Review

• [106:14–119:07]
  • Parks and Freeze offer detailed (and at times disparaging) reviews of this year’s Summer Jam.
  • Critiques: Friday scheduling hurt attendance, "Zeus" (reality network) dominated sponsorship & content, uneven performances, bad programming/logistics.
  • Noted positive moments: Karisha’s set (“the best performer outside Conway”), Lola Brooke, Fat Joe appearances, Remy Ma cameo, and the crowd’s positive energy late in the night.
  • Quote: “This was a Zeus production... It was Zeus Summer Jam.” (C, 111:02)

7. Rapid-Fire News: Crime & Tragic Virality

• [124:28–132:55]
  • Discussion around the death of Noah Wells and the alleged cover-up—audio leaks reveal potentially damning evidence and racial subtext.
  • Debate about collective silence and the culture of secrecy, especially in elite or privileged communities.
  • Stories about viral crime: boat dock murder, the dangers of internet “exposing”, and the real-life consequences of social media trends (e.g., the murder of Sarah Duffy after exposing her husband on TikTok).

8. WNBA Scandal: Outing Players on Social Media

• [133:00–135:36]
  • Reacted to a viral post from WNBA player Dijonay Carrington outing her ex for alleged affair(s) with teammates, sparking debate about the appropriateness (and harm) of “outing” people publicly.
  • Consensus: Outing is “classless and harmful,” but also sometimes backfires and “gets your ex hot,” becoming social currency in its own right.

9. NBA Offseason – Sixers & Knicks Hot Takes

• [135:37–143:46]
  • Mark and Freeze taunt Joe about the Sixers’ offseason, debate over whether Philly or New York is better positioned for next season.
  • Joe boasts about Knicks’ recent ring and how times have changed (“We not star chasing anymore”), references LeBron James’ rumored interest in the Knicks.
  • Bet discussion: “Do you have the Sixers beating the Knicks next season? We could bet five to ten grand on that.” (A, 141:50)

10. Dress Codes at HBCUs

• [146:18–154:49]
  • Mark leads a nuanced discussion about Talladega’s (and other HBCUs’) new dress codes banning bonnets, do-rags, flip flops.
  • Spectrum of views: Cultural professionalism vs. individual freedom, state school vs. HBCU mission, preparing students for "the real world".
  • Quote: “The exception to the rule becomes the rule when people start talking about it.” (D, 151:35)
  • General agreement: Don’t demonize or overly revere either side, but acknowledge the unique role HBCUs play.

11. Marc Lamont Hill’s Viral Interview – Fake University “President”

• [154:57–162:07]
  • Mark recounts his viral, comedic takedown interview with the "president" of a fake online university, who awarded a single fake degree and could not explain his own institution’s paperwork.
  • Emphasis on the importance of “one more question” in journalism, and how easy it is for grifters to be exposed under even mild scrutiny.

12. Lighthearted Wind-down: Plans and Randoms

• [180:31–end]
  • The crew shares their upcoming week’s low-key plans (work, gaming, starting new series with partners).
  • Joe jokes about getting older, looking forward to fall, and the relief of back-to-school.
  • Shoutouts to local politics (Mamdani grocery initiative in NY), positive Black community stories, and ribbing about shot-taking in business deals (Ashton Hall asking for water brand equity).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Honey Buns in Jail:
  "If you eat the honey bun, whoever put it on your bed is gonna come... Now you gotta give that honey bun back. But it's in you!" (A, 01:02)

• On 38 Spesh’s misfire:
  "Dissing Chrissy just seems like a total misstep... that's where you get to bozo land for me." (A, 37:47)

• On Bleek vs. G-Unit:
  “Jay raises bosses, man, he don’t raise dependents.” (D, 73:19)

• On viral moments & performing:
  "When you pull from the audience, you get whatever you get." (A, 98:40)

• On public outing in women’s basketball:
  "Sometimes it has the reverse effect. Like you could get your ex hot out here." (A, 135:18)

• Marc on investigative journalism:
  "Just ask the extra question..." (E, 159:19)

• On HBCU dress codes:
  “A dress code is not a uniform. Uniformity can limit creativity, but I understand why they exist.” (E, D at 150:24)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:36—05:30: Honey Bun jail stories & group intros
• 14:33—44:22: 38 Spesh Jadakiss/Jim Jones diss breakdown
• 67:27—89:38: Memphis Bleek vs. Uncle Murda/Yayo discussion
• 90:29—101:48: Usher concert viral moment (bored girl)
• 106:14—119:07: Summer Jam 2026 review
• 124:28—132:55: Real-life crime, viral tragedies
• 133:00—135:36: WNBA outing scandal
• 135:37—143:46: NBA hot takes (Sixers vs. Knicks)
• 146:18—154:49: HBCU dress code debate
• 154:57—162:07: Marc Lamont Hill’s viral fake university interview
• 180:31—End: Closing personal updates, end-of-show banter

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Tone & Style

• Casual, irreverent, and constantly comedic—often flipping between deep commentary and complete foolery.
• Rapid topic changes and layered inside jokes; group camaraderie and sharp banter are ever-present.
• Hip-hop culture, authenticity, masculinity, and generational change are recurring themes, but they dodge formality at every turn.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is packed with music nerd debate, hilarious tangents, cautionary tales from trending news, and honest appraisals of music and culture—sometimes all in the same five-minute stretch. If you love hip-hop history recaps, crew chemistry, and deviant sense of humor, this is a can’t-miss episode.

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End of summary – for detailed segment breakdowns or transcripts, refer to highlighted timestamps.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Press the button, yo. Welcome. It's a community. Welcome, all. Welcome, all. We in a good mood today.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Facts, facts. We're in a great mood today. We looking good, smelling good. I would start with a prayer, but we protected by our Lord and Savior up above. We pray for patience and discipline and the strength to deal with all the weirdness going on on Earth. We was talking about the honey bun shit.

[C]

What's the honey?

[A]

Please explain this to me. And I was the honey bun on your bed in jail. Oh.

[C]

Oh, it doesn't sound good.

[A]

Now. I want to say, I ain't jail, man. So I don't know all the jail rules. So sometimes the Internet teach me about the jail rules. So I saw a clip. Homeboy, he said, yo, don't eat the honey bun if you go to jail. If you see a random honey bun on your bed, nigga was like, why? He said, well, if you eat the honey bun, that wasn't your honey bun.

[D]

Huh?

[A]

So whoever put it on your bed is gonna come. Now you. Now you give that honey bun back. Yeah, you like, I ate the honey bun. No, no, no. Honey bun. No, no, no. It's in there.

[D]

You honey bun.

[A]

It's in there. It's in you. You ate it, right? Oh, I still need that. I gotta go get that. Oh, shit. So he said he woke up and homeboy was pounding him out. What f. From the. From the back. Like, he felt sharp pains. That's where the big Cut off. Cause I saw a reactor there. He was like, what the. I saw Will shout out Will. So I was like, I never been in jail long enough. Like, the longest I ever did is long enough. When. When they took too long ponying up the bail money. And I'm looking at the clock, so maybe call it 32 hours.

[D]

Sheesh.

[A]

34.

[D]

That's a big.

[A]

But if somebody would have put up. No, they moved me from. Hey, where the bailout go to General Pop, man. I was like, what the hell is going on here? But anyway, they'd have put honey bun in my bed. Like, on some snack. Like, just on some hungry.

[B]

Here you go.

[A]

Look down now you gotta get down. I'm like, ah, Somebody. Somebody Heard focus.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

For the next 40 I100 would have ate that honey bun In Hudson County. In Hudson county they didn't do that to me. Shout out to everybody in Hudson county and look out for you when you can rap if you spit a few verses a honey bun. Ooh, snack time.

[B]

Yo, shut the up.

[A]

You would have been spitting verses.

[D]

All right.

[E]

Yeah, you got it.

[B]

Play with frosted honey bun.

[D]

Got bars on your bed muffins.

[A]

Well, I ain't really a snicker dude, but a honey bun, you would have

[D]

been a snicker doodle. That's crazy.

[A]

We got a fight if I wake up and you me, I would hope so. I didn't get to that part. I didn't get to that part in the video to hear what dude did. But when you get out, square up. When you get weak for nothing.

[B]

Hey, come on.

[D]

What's up with you?

[E]

Yo, you said when you get out,

[D]

we gotta square up. What are you. What are you talking about?

[B]

It's about the prison, he said. That's not what I meant, but. Oh, you meant get out your ass, you freak.

[A]

Y' all are disgusting. Sometimes I think when I open with a topic, y' all would share what y' all would do in that. But y' all just look at me.

[D]

I'm going home.

[A]

Ice. You eating honey bun.

[B]

I'm not eating no Ice, you.

[A]

Somebody's icy on a nigga. You icy on a nigga. You ate that honey bun, fam.

[D]

Ice is going home.

[A]

You ate that honey bun, though.

[D]

I'm not making it there.

[A]

But if you happen to be there, I ain't going to jail either.

[D]

Dictate if you make it there.

[A]

Ooh, cup of noodles.

[B]

That's freeze.

[A]

No, you don't.

[E]

Yes, he will.

[A]

No, he can't.

[D]

He can't dictate that.

[A]

He will.

[E]

Give him all the information he.

[D]

Yo, my nigga, you could go to jail without having a. A co.

[B]

It's a fact.

[D]

Then what happens?

[E]

Ice don't commit no crimes, bro.

[D]

You could. It could be a mistaken identity or something. Innocent in the jail? Yeah.

[A]

Then you hold me down, please. They ain't putting one honey bun on free shit. They gonna come with a bucket, a barrel, and they got sweet shots, charcuterie. It's gonna be a few in there.

[E]

He gonna be icing.

[D]

That was nasty.

[A]

Why y' all gotta start out being gay, y'?

[F]

All?

[B]

Y off.

[A]

Y gay. The said it's a pack. The whole little Debbie cart on your free go.

[B]

Laying that too.

[A]

Freeze Head gonna be banging on his Apple watch.

[B]

For you to connect.

[A]

Yo, y' all don't have to be gay. This episode. Shout out to all our supporters from the LGBTQIA community plus and the prisons. Word. Because you got iPads and walking and they be listening. I hope to never see none of y', all, but it's. I'm see y' all one day. It's gonna happen.

[D]

No worries.

[A]

They'll make something up. Wrong. Wrongful. Hey, you look like somebody. You know all the black people. Oh, y' all don't know that.

[B]

They may come home. They're gonna come home, and you may see them. You mean you hope not to see them in prison? You hope not to be in the street?

[A]

No. Not to see them when they come home, either. You don't see so many niggas.

[B]

I thought about what you said when you talk about the Jay Z shit. When like, Joe, I know you don't like to be bothered, but so what? Like, it's just something about. I dealt with the same thing this weekend. Like, niggas just don't care.

[A]

I live vicariously through you.

[B]

You gotta just accept the niggas.

[A]

You around enough criminals for me. Like, when I see. When I see it through your shit, I'll be like, yeah, nah, we got a present still.

[B]

Niggas are too aggressive, nigga. Yeah, and you just gotta respect it. Yo, nigga, who cares if you not in the mood, nigga, I love you, nigga. He's like, all right, my. I love you, too, nigga.

[D]

He did something. You were saying?

[C]

Are we still talking about the honey bun?

[E]

Nah.

[B]

Hell no.

[A]

Look at you feeling freaky. Look at you feeling away.

[B]

What?

[C]

He's talking about using the movie.

[B]

He would have been the honey bun. Paul would have been the one giving out the honey buns, nigga, just on some freak shit. Yeah, Parks is crazy, yo.

[A]

Them niggas in jail as freaks, yo. Why you putting honey buns in my bed?

[D]

You want to.

[F]

Why?

[A]

You ain't got no game.

[B]

It ain't even a why.

[C]

You flirt, bro.

[A]

Turn them. Ain't no bitches in there use a little romance. Yeah, you gonna turn them on? Chivalry is dead. I see. Oh, man.

[E]

Oh, Mark.

[A]

What's up, bro? Wake it up. Wake up, man.

[F]

You cool?

[E]

I'm great. Waiting for the subject to change.

[A]

All right, well, let's. Let's change it. Where's your wedding ring?

[C]

Oh, shit.

[E]

Oh, it's in the. Joe's being funny.

[A]

Don't change it, then.

[C]

It's in the cleaners.

[A]

Wait, where's your wedding ring?

[E]

Yeah, I got a new one coming. A silicone one. My fingers are. My finger's fractured, so I can't really fit one right.

[A]

You ain't wore your wedding ringing a

[E]

little bit since I fractured the finger.

[A]

It's amazing how that works.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So you're getting a silicone one.

[E]

It's a bigger size and it stretches.

[C]

Why don't you just wait? Well, okay. That's a lot. We're still gay here on some honey bun shit.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Yeah. I don't split. I buddy tape it when I train. Yeah.

[D]

Colby Got it. Colby, boy.

[A]

Yo, you niggas got a lot.

[B]

Not on the court.

[A]

Never mind. I know.

[E]

You know what? You know, I'm gonna take a little dark piece of tape and tie it around my Y. My fans are crazy. They noticed I didn't wear it and. Cause I tried to put it back on and it didn't fit. That's why. So they noticed and they made, like, videos about it. Like, Flip might be right. Mark's having problems at home.

[B]

Don't throw me in there.

[E]

That's what they said. They said Flip is on or something.

[B]

Don't throw me in that.

[E]

You started it.

[B]

Talk to them niggas. A lot of shit you started. You literally.

[A]

You right, too. Don't throw me in that boy you talking about.

[B]

Don't.

[A]

Hey, I think you. You on the trail. This is the time you insert a jink.

[C]

Nah.

[A]

Mark. Anything cooler, the greater hope.

[E]

We did our show together yesterday. My wife and I didn't have it there either. Again, this damn thing.

[B]

Oh, she just showed up.

[A]

That's financial abuse and manipulation.

[E]

I just want to point out.

[A]

Hey, that's my old trick. Have a. Have a gig with them just. Just in case the romance part fall through.

[B]

They still got to show up.

[A]

It's a form of control. Yeah. You know for sure. For sure. Yeah. What's up? Freeze.

[D]

What's good, man?

[A]

I see you started your gig with yours. That's my man right there. Don't worry, I'm right behind you. I'm about to put mine on kick or some shade sit there.

[B]

I watched this, too.

[G]

I heard her.

[B]

I said, what?

[A]

Oh, no, they was in their bag over there.

[D]

Yeah, we over there playing gta.

[A]

I love that.

[D]

I love having a good time.

[A]

And you look good. You look better over there. Like you got a gamer face.

[B]

For real.

[A]

Nah, he looked like the gamer.

[E]

You always think of John McEl among gamers.

[A]

It sounds funny, but I'm with you. That's that's kind of what I say. He look like the Megatron in gamers over here.

[E]

Optimus Pride that look like.

[A]

That look like Odysseus found found his way home. Julius gamer in his natural habitat. Big ass, game face, sitting there giving some taste.

[B]

Yeah, both was on camera.

[C]

Nah,

[B]

She talked out of nowhere. I said, oh, she said, yo, you want me get out the car? I go. I like, oh, they playing together.

[D]

Yeah, we playing together.

[B]

Freeze. Keep off camera.

[D]

She's coming on camera, bro. I just got my. She don't have a setup yet.

[A]

I just want it all.

[E]

It's two rooms.

[A]

That's my old move, too. Find a star, pour into him and dick them down, right? You find somebody got some untapped potential that they not really seeing without your support.

[C]

Give her a honey bun.

[E]

Give her honey bun.

[A]

Give him a little honey bun. Kick them down, make sure they get on camera and speak power into your name. That's right, Mark. Doing it. Anybody doing it? Except for speaking of being off camera. Ish. Was in dc.

[D]

What's up?

[A]

What's up? How was your. How was your. You just catch. We in a great mood. We got great. We got great topics. I'm really depressed. I'm just cracking on y' all about it.

[B]

Was in DC Again.

[E]

Yeah. When was you in dc?

[D]

This won't leave you home last night.

[A]

Did you move?

[B]

I didn't.

[C]

Are you going to.

[G]

No.

[D]

Shout. Shout out to anybody in the dmv.

[C]

True.

[D]

Showing me mad love and.

[A]

Oh, oh, I know. That's my boy.

[E]

That's my boy.

[A]

That's my boy. You know what that mean already? He ain't gonna say it. He talking to somebody. You know who you are. This goes out to you, baby.

[D]

You my everything, idiot.

[C]

Bro.

[A]

Wait, what's showing man? Love means like, while you was building a house, he put the D and

[B]

DMV for sure

[D]

everywhere.

[A]

But. Oh, you talking.

[B]

He's talking.

[E]

That freak.

[B]

That's huge, huh?

[A]

He hemothy. And you was already kind of semi himothy pause out there, so now he was hot.

[B]

Now you. He said, who's up?

[A]

They was on your dick. Nah, the girls. I mean. Nah, a couple of them.

[D]

I don't see any of that. I'm talking.

[A]

Wait, wait, slow down. Don't speed past that one. You don't see any of that.

[D]

Answer you when I'm outside. Like, I. I'm at Home Depot yesterday, literally in Home Depot yesterday. And the.

[B]

I know that.

[A]

Nah, I'm staying quiet. I want to hear where you go. This story Better end with a bang, bro. No, seriously, I tell you that one, I would jump one.

[D]

No, no. Your dog in the Home Depot. It's other grown men. It's a little weird, though. The grown men was going to get other men in the store to bring them over to.

[A]

To meet you.

[D]

That's him. Meet and greet him.

[B]

That's him.

[D]

Sounds about right, though. That shit is crazy.

[E]

That's crazy.

[D]

So that you know. That's fire.

[E]

No women in there, though.

[D]

Yeah, it's women that work at Home Depot.

[E]

Yeah, in the Depot. This guy didn't do that in the dmv.

[B]

How many days you out there for? From Friday to Wednesday.

[D]

Thursday one. Saturday. Oh, so Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

[B]

Flew or drove?

[A]

Drove.

[D]

I flew down, drove back.

[C]

You went.

[A]

You went to CVS when you was out there? I ain't going to stop at cvs.

[B]

I ain't going to. L. You doing something.

[A]

Did you go to cvs?

[B]

You keep driving up.

[D]

I'm working.

[B]

Nah, you bringing some back.

[F]

What you doing?

[E]

I'm going to your truck.

[B]

You keep driving up.

[E]

You got a rental connect.

[D]

You doing something?

[A]

I used to do that back.

[D]

I don't know what.

[C]

You used to.

[E]

You up to something.

[B]

You had them niggas stay down there.

[D]

You was a mule.

[B]

See, here you go again. No, you a har refugative in your fucking house, nigga. You're hiding Mexicans. Watch him out. All right, don't do it. Now, listen, Mr. Ish, you doing something, and I need to get down to the bottom of it. I want in on what you got going on.

[D]

What's your credit like?

[B]

All right, well.

[A]

Can't get it. You can look at him and guess his credit score. For real. Tell true. He don't look like somebody that's killing the credit.

[B]

And you can look at him and tell that. You can look at him and tell he's an intern.

[E]

He looks.

[B]

I know, I know. Laughing. This gay. Internal prison ass you going through. Your wife just show up to the spots. You, honey, you there. Get dressed. We about to record you ass. Chill the out.

[F]

You next.

[D]

Yo, bro, you.

[F]

You next.

[D]

You start this, though.

[A]

So what?

[D]

All right, cool.

[A]

Say less.

[B]

I love all y'. All. Don't just leave me alone. Oh, man, my credit score. Credit score is good. Now jumping.

[D]

What's good?

[E]

Is it in the sevens?

[G]

No. Almost.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

6 12, right?

[B]

Nah, that. Hell, that's low six. It's high six.

[E]

Nigga. I had to do the move.

[D]

Keep that to yourself.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. There's a lot that I have to hear about. There's a lot of shit up here that is really important to me. I want to hear about Parks and Freeze at Summer Jam.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I want to hear Parks fight his way out of this.38 special box. I'm muting up. I want to hear about Mark. Mark pulling out the.50 cal on homeboy. Oh, like there's a lot going on.

[B]

You pull a gun out on somebody.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He pulled out that education. Education gun.

[E]

He talking about.

[B]

Oh, the. I watched that this morning.

[A]

Oh, my God. Mark is. Mark is.

[C]

Mark's.

[A]

He's a maniac. But for the people born in the 2000s. Come on, man. Let's have some fun.

[E]

Jake, that.

[F]

This is it right here, baby. You might see me in the jack truck double RT with the matching bandana.

[A]

What year is this? What year is this? 91. Yes. See in 98. Didn't hear this and say, let's play with him.

[D]

No, they didn't.

[A]

Nobody said that nowhere. It's when I ran away from home to live in my baby mama's. She was cooking. She had a car. She's in the hood, though.

[B]

Stop.

[D]

You ain't come outside.

[A]

Why not?

[D]

She was in the hood.

[A]

Joe Budden at 19. Stop playing with me, boy. You just met me when I was grown.

[D]

Just playing with me, Boy, you are so you was when you came in.

[F]

Y' all niggas trying to glance at the kiss. Cause I'm a wreck with your whole advance on my wrist Phoning your women

[A]

drunk off Corona Lemon and you know I'm still writing the main lighting green I need the buggy even though I look Mike Shack. 1, 2, 1 2. Mike Shaq.

[E]

1, 2, 1, 2.

[A]

So glad y' all could be here.

[E]

Tell you what I want you to

[A]

know what you ask me probably don't want me to blow whole W. What's going on out there? Shout out to J1.

[F]

Usually a good even though I'm able to flip you pay 30

[B]

and if

[F]

we cool off, then I write a hook for a drop whatever's in. Where is he from? Jamaica, Queens, Cali or down south, let a la gun hit him Great street,

[A]

oh, New York City. What's up out there?

[F]

I could let a New York knife poke him with one of my doorways. But I don't want to see no cops smoking.

[A]

Somebody tell Paul we riot.

[F]

Get ready to auction off the cars. Bump head, since you like having people with you, get you a hospital with bone bags. Now Dr. Dre, you would just make slow jams come up out of that witness protection program.

[E]

Get in your place.

[F]

Big ones alive need a probably spit in your face now Doing just fine. Without you, I probably would have made an album about you. So I guess it just leaves me here to get rid of you.

[A]

Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Big Jersey, what's going on? Patronies, what up out there? Subgroups, what up out there?

[F]

I just know an instrumental. Your worst nightmare.

[A]

Shout out to all the hate listers out there. Everybody rolling around on vacations and all

[F]

that damn near killer. Consider rapping to a N. This is probably the best thing that happens. Wankster, Internet gangster magazine monster on your whole roster.

[D]

Oh my God. Sheesh.

[A]

Whole Buffalo. What's going on, man?

[D]

What's poppin out there?

[A]

Everybody up getting their morning cup of coffee and all that?

[F]

Yo, last time I'm whatever vice you into.

[A]

Whatever you need.

[F]

Old nigga, new N

[E]

who really the

[F]

best rapper since BIG ain't here. Y' all know the answer to that. When KISS ain't here. When you see me. Don't ask me nothing about us and don't definitely ask me nothing about you owe me one, I owe you two. I would have smacked you with the

[E]

burner, but I know you too. And I'm not talking to him, I'm talking to you. Matter of fact, talking to y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Yo, see this the thing Rap. It's some that could rap really, really well. That may not be the greatest at making a diss track. And on the flip side, it's niggas that don't rap the greatest that may make an amazing diss track. And then you have the anomaly of niggas that are aliens and do both. So here you go, might as well be Murkin.

[F]

Cause the time that he giving out is hurting and all these record labels jerking and you never was a dog use a working and you heard that shit right there. I started that. Don't make me put something up in your starter hat. No matter who you are or where you from.

[E]

Screw all of that. I'm not trying to hit. I got it now, though, baby.

[F]

Six shots out of the western so much purple a drought is out of the question Blow your heart out of your chest then lay low when the trump duplex down on the west end Focus on what I invest in. Got married to marijuana yeah, the connect is my best man. Even though the game gonna change it's the same old thing Most of my cash came off 6, 4, 5 nigga with 2 deuces white pipe, late night

[A]

creep yo, if you Was Bo on after the DJ was talking over the track. Mute the up right now.

[F]

Y' all think I make music for and I'm about to get a gallon of water.

[A]

Yeah, I mean K Slay P. Cutter and all that. They talking about DJ Boom and all that

[F]

and I still rip a beat like I bought it same as my time so I'm glad I caught it. My boss me smoked in the piper store just making it clizzy his aim is lizard. And even when they try to make the God dress up I got the hammer and the blazer set my game up from the potato to the laser so you gonna need surgery even if it grays you kiss a death double R D block and you know the ghost is next can't find you we just smoke the next never hold nothing in you supposed to check

[A]

somebody pull that 38 special freestyle out. We getting right to it, man. Okay, somebod pull it up.

[E]

We getting right to it on ebay.

[F]

I got that off cam. 4 minutes and 25 seconds till you end. You know it be the kiss granting your last wish.

[D]

I wouldn't call,

[E]

I wouldn't call I'm

[A]

g about friendship I wouldn't have called

[B]

them out neither made the right choice. Shut it up,

[A]

Y' all be shook cuz we dealing with real trucks I

[F]

can't lie for a while y' all catches on us but now if you

[A]

can't beat us,

[E]

you know, shout out

[A]

to all the truck drivers, all the teachers out there, all the kids getting ready for college and all that.

[F]

Head on head collision. I'm a problem and nobody could solve on my own division on the road of success but it's more of a mission. They said I would be dead or I was going to prison. One of them is certain but the other one isn't. I made rare decisions that imply like

[A]

I'm just starting you from this era, so I think you cool.

[E]

But

[F]

notice the same with him. He destroys tracks the minute he hears the rhythm. Only a hell of a flow but his ears forbidden. You think this is a ringtone? Yeah, you kidding? 50,000 records, so right? Yeah, you kidding. It was his time to go. He appreciate life and got dead for living by the leader. Good cheeba Sergio tech sweatsuit good adidas. Jewels is invisible that we was supposed to get from them. Used to send them to the store, now we blowing piff with them. Nowadays it's different. I was fortunate cause I did a lot of listening. The new era is missing it everybody 357 and 4 fifth in it drug program 2 to 4, 3 to 6 fed send niggas way out by Lake Michigan.

[A]

Thank God for us, man. Thank God for us up here. It ain't too many outlets that remind y' all of what hip hop used to sound like. All you fucking new age digital babies. I'm sorry.

[F]

You know the flow. Where it come from and where it go and where it's gonna be at. That's where we at.

[E]

All right.

[A]

We got a great show lined up for y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

We about to have a whole lot of fun, man.

[F]

Inside to feel like the summer getting

[A]

dumber and dumber while we getting smarter

[F]

and smarter making harder and harder Took this rap game like styles is raw steam from casino and Chic is the boss of the Hennessy Gambino. You talking cenos used to stack dope in our ski goats couldn't play sweet though. You know the kiss on the low in the mix Blowing drum sipping Red Alley and Mo.

[A]

All right, you got it ready? You got it loaded up over there? Load it up over there,

[F]

baby.

[A]

All right. Congratulations, homie.

[B]

You made history.

[A]

All right, let's get right to it. One million in the short wig at the end of your record. You know what he did when he put m you?

[E]

Sign you and you make me look. Like grown men.

[A]

You won't win. You don't even feel comfortable in your own skin. My ass off. Fighting a champ with a glass jaw in the Garden Nassau.

[E]

You see me?

[A]

Couple hood behind stars. Heard you put a couple good behind bars. I might never sell that much.

[F]

You could bet your last two quarters.

[A]

I never tell that much.

[B]

Yo.

[A]

Shout out to the whole Queens. It ain't really about that right now.

[E]

We over that.

[A]

We over that. This is just like a reminder, like why?

[F]

Why, like really going to be for good. I hold a 45 myself and hop out the range on 140.

[E]

All right, Mark, you ready? You ready to go?

[A]

You ready to go?

[E]

You ready to go?

[A]

Is she ready to go? You ready to go? Freeze, freeze, freeze.

[B]

Big freeze.

[A]

Now I gotta melt you. I'mma send to do it. Ain't gonna miss. Straight up, Piff. I did real songs with Big.

[F]

Dog.

[A]

Look at Mark. Hey, Bre. Look at Mar.

[F]

You should just sell clothes and sneakers, cuz out of your whole camp, your

[A]

flow is the weakest.

[F]

I'm in young boys predicates Take a lifetime to see Kiss.

[A]

You had to get shot. Use a animal. Use a animal.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Somebody that can sit in a dark room and do that.

[A]

Yo, I'M getting these drops out the way and we right to it, man. We ain't got time to play.

[D]

Who is that?

[E]

It's marked on my hill.

[B]

From the Weber.

[F]

From the Weber.

[A]

Nidiara.

[E]

It's the network.

[A]

All right, Mike Sheck. So good to be here. What episode is this?

[C]

950.

[A]

Welcome to episode 950 of the JOE Button Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Picks. Prize picks, gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with the best, best panel in the universe. To my right, Queens, get the money. Queens, Flip is in the building. Flip, what's up with you?

[B]

I'm good. I'm happy to be here. Let's get to work.

[A]

Good, good. Next to Flip, our good Brother, Philadelphia's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, what's poppin?

[E]

Ain't shit, man.

[A]

I'm good, good, good. So happy to be here with you next to him. Stop playing with him. DC's finest. Virginia's finest. Maryland's finest.

[E]

Irving.

[A]

Finest Western Oranges. Finest. Livingston's finest.

[C]

Colts.

[A]

Next.

[F]

Finest.

[A]

Red Hook.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Stop playing with them big freeze.

[E]

I mean, not freeze.

[A]

Our issues in the building. Make some noise. Big issues in the building, man. So glad he could be here with us, Master Green. That's that Ish hoodie with the camo. It's from the 90s, man. Y' all know what time it is. Ish. How you doing, my brother?

[B]

I'm good, dog.

[A]

What's up? Good, good. Happy to be drained, right? Driving takes a lot of. Yo, tell me about it, yo. You never realize it. Like, when you driving back, like driving home, it's different from flying back. The flight back home is shorter. When you drive back home after you stop at that CVS around 11pm too, the pharmacy closed. Anything close, Self checkout is just you in that owl and it's mad that I'm in there now. Strawberry Durant Rex lavender, raspberry thin, lamb skin texture. Rip for her pleasure. Next to it. Stop playing with him. You could check him out on his channel. Stop playing. Big Freeze in the building. Freeze was popping.

[D]

What's going on, man?

[A]

Nothing much.

[C]

You doing?

[D]

I'm great.

[A]

Great. Glad to. Good. Absolutely love that you caught the Puma stripe with the sweats. You did it. Appreciate it. You did. You look good next to him, man. The khaki shorts won't save him today. He got a rep for his hood. Elmiry stood strong on some big parks. Is in the building.

[B]

I'M here.

[A]

Parks, how you doing, man?

[C]

Feeling great, man. How about you?

[A]

You didn't call out. I'm good. I'm good.

[C]

Never called out.

[A]

I love that you didn't call out, man. Po is here for about an hour. Hour or you are here? Ain't you leaving Friday?

[B]

Friday you not leaving today?

[D]

Where you going?

[A]

Today's not Friday.

[D]

Yo, it be happening to me.

[B]

Trying to make life go fast, boy.

[D]

Nah, it happened to me, too.

[A]

It's over, yo.

[B]

It's all right.

[A]

I swear.

[D]

I came in here last Friday and said, how was y' all weekend?

[A]

Fridays is like Tuesday. Since I don't go nowhere no more.

[B]

It's the same.

[A]

Same shit to me. Just a blur right now, staring at each other. I love it, though, man. I love it, though. It's absolutely amazing. Corey is here. Our new photographer is here.

[E]

Hey.

[A]

Hey. Amanda is here.

[D]

How are you?

[A]

Ericson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Come on, let's get right into it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Get right to it. Come on, park. Just go ahead, man.

[C]

Want me to hit play?

[A]

Yeah, just play it.

[C]

All right, let's do it.

[A]

Yeah. We ain't got time to play. We here. Let's get to it. We got to talk about we got to do today. New 38 special 38 special 38 special a day I wake I got new hate these niggas ride dick so much they got a due date rappers too fake front and they have to move weight he joined the gang at 30 something that was too late give a fuck what a rap dude make they had wagyu on they plates we had used stakes niggas only care about views and how they shoes lace you had a baby by a bum bitch that's a fool to make Jim, I don't

[D]

see two white men jumping specially falling

[A]

down the escalator brand new 38 special brand new special this is his jadakiss Jim Jones diss record. He shot a video it's out now turn it up. I came to talk to these kids on some grown he follow no man do your own but please make sure you own don't have a lot of chains with no creds or some Jim Jones Yo, Jim, I got a bone

[D]

to pick Got some whole talking about

[A]

how another toes fit when your house on the four toes list he lost his crib at old six and this still home let's pause that for a minute. Let's pause that for A minute. Let's get some commentary. Let's get some commentary. I don't want to be striped for just playing 30 minutes of straight music. Let's get some commentary up here. New 38 special.

[E]

First time hearing this.

[C]

Hate the beat. Wish you would have called me to mix it. That's where I'm starting.

[A]

You hate the beat.

[C]

I hate the beat. And I wish he would have called me to mix it. The mix.

[D]

What do you.

[A]

Ain't about to beat.

[C]

It's. It's not the right bop for this record. For me, Yep.

[A]

Is that true with all beats that are around that bpm?

[B]

Yes, kind of.

[C]

It's. It's the bop more than the bpm. Like, the. The bop is like a late bop, and that's not aggressive enough for me. Like, the sound is aggressive. The big horns and. But like, the. The feel of it is like.

[D]

So if he hollers.

[A]

Well, does the BPM not determine the bop?

[C]

It doesn't. It doesn't. The pocket can be the pocket, which is because the bpm, the how. How it falls, how it should land.

[A]

Let me. Let me hear some more. Yeah, let me hear what I really don't get. You won't be a street so bad that you got. All right.

[C]

It's really. The kicks. The kicks are kind of like behind.

[A]

Yeah, Something is behind.

[C]

It's not this. It's.

[A]

It's laid back. I understand. We nerd now.

[D]

Go ahead.

[E]

You know how I can tell when. When a diss track is trash?

[D]

We start talking about the kicks in

[E]

the box and the B.

[A]

Well, I thought the presentation is super boring.

[E]

No, no, you're not wrong. I'm just saying if this was fire, we wouldn't even be thinking about that right away. I'm.

[A]

I agree.

[E]

Everything you just said, I just.

[A]

Well, yeah, that's where the critique comes in.

[F]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

You know, every. I agree. Everything you just said. I don't like the beat. I don't. I don't like the tempo. But I also just. This is my first time hearing it, and I'm underwhelmed.

[D]

I'll just say that before we even get that, though. Cause 38 Special performed at the 7 o' clock stage of Summer Jam.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And he tried to use that moment to go on there and freestyle this to diss. You know them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

The problem with that is when you on the seven o' clock stage, ain't

[C]

nobody in that bit.

[D]

Nobody's there yet.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

So it kind of.

[C]

We weren't even in there.

[A]

Word.

[D]

Like you tried to make a moment out of it. At Summer Jams New York, they were saying this is.

[A]

This is special at Summer Jam. And I'm looking at the crowd like, is it Summer Jam that? Don't we get to that?

[C]

We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that.

[D]

We're gonna cover that.

[A]

But this was the pre show, right.

[D]

He was on the seven o' clock

[A]

and Summer Jam is on a Friday now, not a Saturday. So a Saturday pre show Sunday. You're right. So we not mad at a Sunday pre show because ain't nobody at work.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

The people that want to go to the pre show can go to the pre show on a Friday. The pre show.

[C]

They different. They that up. Like he did a Summer Jam review later.

[D]

Yeah, he did a lot of. Well, just about special real quick. He did a lot of antics even with this. He's walking around backstage Summer Jam with the cameras. I'm looking because I think Kissing somebody say was sending militia or Jim one of them. Excuse me. But he. I'm looking for where y' all at basically is where he's saying. And Kiss kind of responded. Summer Jam is the safest place to be. Cuz of course all the security, especially if you performing on the 7 o' clock early stage, there's nobody there. So you walking around doing these antics. You freestyle and nobody heard it, nobody saw you. It. It's a bad setup to now put this record out and it be this.

[C]

Well, I think it missed. I'm not mad at using that opportunity to make a moment. Like you have to be there to make the moment. I understand that. But you don't get that opportunity to be in a arena full of people. If I'm going to do this, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Like it's not even. We can judge it in hindsight cuz we don't love the record or whatever. But using that moment to preview a diss track, even if no one's there and making some moments backstage is the right thing to do. Unfortunately, when you're trying to make a bunch of people pay attention to you,

[E]

you just don't like the execution.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

I don't like that. Yeah, but go ahead. We get.

[B]

I agree what you're saying. I agree.

[D]

It just seemed like more cloud chasing that's been on. Like I've been saying from the rip, first of all.

[A]

And there's a lot of points to hit on this, so I'll try to not Speak as slow as I normally do. First of all, anticipation was way too high.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

People were expecting something. He was teasing something he was leading up to it. You shot a video. You got Fat Joe and Jadakis look alikes. Right. You're at the summer Jam. I'm rolling with what park say if you bold. Be bold. Do it in n town. Go ahead and do it, Joe.

[D]

That's like when be saying I'm in your hood, but I'm in your hood at four in the morning when ain't nobody outside.

[A]

I understand. I understand that. But he's booked to perform at summer Jam before all pre show or main stage. That's a big moment, especially for an underground act.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So he is supposed to go up there and relish in that. I'm not mad at that. Anticipation was too high to underwear deliver. And I think the consensus is that he did under deliver with this one. 2. I agree with Parks. I didn't think about the bot, but I did think about the bpm. If you dissing somebody, let's speed it up a little bit. Let's get some. It's adrenaline. It's the chakras.

[D]

But let me ask y' all a question. If you dissing somebody, regardless of what the BPMs are, if the lyrics is fire, does it really, really matter?

[C]

It does.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The prison presentation matters.

[A]

It does. The beat is always going to matter how. How it's received and. And a lot of the. The consumers. The beat is a large part of that. We'll catch what you saying at some other time. The beat is important, but that's they style. He slowed it down. That's my third point. Special is already on record saying Jim Jones. You not qualified to even speak in rapper conversations. Okay, then why are we dictating dedicating? I mean, dedicated. I'm sorry, 80, 90% of a diss track toward Jim Jones. For me, that seems counterproductive if you're that dismissive of who he is, which you said you were fourth. I'm totally against dissing Chrissy a thousand percent.

[E]

A thousand always.

[D]

That's where it lost.

[A]

That's where you get the bozo land for me. Like, what are you doing doing?

[D]

That's where it lost me.

[A]

Now, from his perspective, war is war.

[E]

Nope.

[A]

I just don't think that that's wise. I've been consistent in that. He thinks he's dissing Jim Jones and Jadicus and whoever. And you dissing Roc Nation and Bird Gang and all the people that all of these people are Affiliated with, with. So that's mute musicians. That's venues.

[D]

That's.

[A]

It's too much to name if you down to do that. See, I think he think he just doing some rapper shit, which is what I said on some old school. Hey, I came in the game thinking I could rap with everybody. Let's rap, nigga. I'm better than you niggas. But that wasn't the game. It's way bigger than that. So if you down to do that, cool. Dissing Chrissy just seems like a total misstep.

[C]

I never loved it. Dissing family, especially this early in the game before we even get to like real mudsling like this started from wearing a white tea or whatever. The Jim Jones initial diss was like, we don't need to go to wives.

[D]

I agree with personal opinion. Like again, if you really think you could rap and out, then do it. Rap his ass under the bus, right? Like yo, you, you, you that low hanging. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. I'm not a fan of this.

[A]

Especially Chrissy. To me, I'm not a fan of dising nobody wife. But some people just are known for minding their business. Some people are known for the silence. Some people, the way they silent is so gangster.

[B]

Yeah, you got to respect it.

[A]

What are you doing? Yo, Not a soul like those people. I don't, I don't.

[E]

I.

[A]

Those people you don't involve in whatever side show you doing.

[C]

This is. This is new era dis record. Which is weird coming from special age, you know what I'm saying? Like going to the family and mudslinging is not like the cloth of rapper that he usually portrays.

[A]

We lost the plot.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

This started with him and Jadakus and now we on him and Jim Jones and his wife. Yeah, I ain't like we've left your lyrical ability now right now they judging your song making you probably blackballed from a few things. It's probably a few events that you shouldn't attend now for sure. And it's like for what? For the fans first impression from that diss track. Like, it ain't even like you did this and then followed with like a plan. Like, I don't understand what 38 Specials don't doing. Yes, he can rap. Yes, I like him. This is. This is improper planning, improper strategy. And just this song is bad execution.

[C]

This is. This is letting the Internet talk you into jumping off a bridge in a. In a bad way.

[D]

But even if when you jump, you jumping with a parachute, that's cool. That rap ain't the parachute.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

That song is not the parachute. You get what I'm saying?

[E]

You can't do all this to end with that.

[D]

Well, this song is like step five or six in bad steps that he's taken. Yeah, I agree.

[A]

And I wanted to say, you know what? After hearing it, well, as it was playing when I first heard it, I'm like, all right, maybe he's doing the old jab and try to bait somebody. You're not trying to bait Jadakiss, bro.

[D]

I thought it was. But you've been doing it.

[A]

You can't bait Jadicus.

[D]

I thought it was AI again.

[A]

These. These niggas legacies are established, etched in stone. They some of the great not to sit there and have a glaze off back to honey buns. But these niggas ain't people that's just like, waking up and trying to rap every day to feed their families. That era's behind us. The era's past us now. It's like when people talk to me about some rap shit. Hey, cool, nigga.

[D]

Think. What you think?

[A]

Whatever I did, I did it. And whatever we think, we think. That's not where I'm at today.

[E]

Right.

[A]

I don't understand it. I don't. And I did want. I was trying to invite him up here to speak to 38 Special directly, but I ain't in the pig. The mudslinging. Once. Once you do that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What you want me to do? I. I can't sit next to you.

[E]

Yeah, I agree 1,000%. I agree.

[B]

It went from I can't wait to what he says. And when you listen, it's like, ah, come on, man.

[D]

Yeah, like we went from.

[E]

I don't.

[B]

I don't. I thought that. And I. I really thought he would give Jadakiss more. That's what I'm saying. Like, you had me excited about Jadakiss.

[A]

I saw Jadakiss, and he typing is more coming.

[B]

Yeah, I saw Jada Instagram. But Jadakiss said he was just paying a tribute to his uncle that passed away. But I saw. I'm like, oh, shit. It's about to get nasty, nigga. And then I heard that. I'm like. I felt like. And I'm not taking anything from Jim. Cause Capo's my man.

[A]

But it looked like a little bit

[B]

of picking and choosing to me. Yeah, it was a bunch of picking and choosing.

[D]

It is.

[B]

You heard all of the.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Why would you go swinging that Jim? Yo, dawg, why the fuck are we swinging at Jim Jones. Hey, we in rapperland now. Hey, let's keep Jim Jones out the club. And I don't necessarily feel like that. I feel like Jim Jones is a much improved rapper.

[E]

I do.

[A]

But if we in MC Land, hey, keep him out the club. There you go, right there. There go that nigga right there. He's in front of you in the same spot. And especially because Kiss only said two lines to me. I'm saying two lines to him. You not hit him right. He can do that because he came out in 95.

[D]

You called him out. He said two lines to you. My question, you was worth two lines to him. And if that's your theory, Jim ain't give you what you gave him.

[E]

Right? Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You get what I'm saying?

[D]

Like, if your theory is your Kiss only said two lines to me, so I'm gonna give him two lines.

[A]

He said Jim was disrespectful and Jada Kiss wasn't. But to my knowledge, talked about your clothes.

[E]

Yo, that's pics, man. I don't respect.

[D]

You talked about your clothes. My. You talking about somebody's wife.

[C]

Yes. Dropping a nuke out of it.

[D]

You know what we talking about. Like, yeah, he said this more.

[A]

And listen, respectfully, please don't shoot at me. I'm just chilling. I'm just commenting. Tayn calling it. Gotta call it fair fight.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Now that we've heard the special diss track, Don't Do It Again. Don't say Jada. Don't. Don't say Jadakiss. Sunkiss. Jada.

[E]

Pinky, right.

[A]

No, he can't. No, Jada. You can't say Jada. They try to get me in trouble.

[E]

Is there more to that song?

[C]

There's more, but it's up to y'

[A]

all if you want to hear it. He set me up. Look at that thing.

[E]

Can I hear a little bit more?

[A]

I don't speak that no more. Go ahead. So you said I speak. I know, but Po said she don't blow dick. What?

[D]

Post said she don't blow dick.

[A]

Man, this talking like a ball but ain't giving out no jaw. Nigga, you can't even go home and get a blowjob before you made cash off rap. What was Showed y' all Jim's story Faker than the one fact, yo.

[F]

Wrong.

[A]

And yo, bro, my face type ballad. Without that body burp, that bitch'd be shaped like talent. Better replace some steaks for some late night salads. No matter how much you hate, you can't take my talent.

[D]

You talkin to a real man with skilled hands.

[A]

I took kilograms and bill brands gotta float outta field stands. Only reason Kiss eating. Cause he fat joke Little mans.

[D]

Huh. My. My thing to this is.

[E]

Yeah. Nah. That's a no for me, though.

[D]

For those who know. They know 38 special can rap.

[C]

I was Arab too.

[D]

There's a lot of people who's never. I'm not gonna say never. But this is their introduction to him.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

This ain't do it.

[C]

This is not a good introduction. He's much better than this.

[D]

Like, their introduction to him was called calling out Kiss. Hey, who are you? How dare you call out Kiss. We know what Kiss do. He documented.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who the fuck are you? That's how a lot of people are looking at him.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And we get this. It's like, oh, nigga, go go. You make better time responding to Nino, man. What you won't do.

[A]

Honestly. Like, I feel like Special's proving the point of why some niggas, you just leave a legit. Like, I feel like he's proven this with that whatever he.

[B]

He did.

[A]

Don't direct that to. What's Jadicus real name again?

[E]

Jason.

[D]

Mr.

[A]

He can't. Cause the worst thing that could happen for him is for Jadakiss to call out of work.

[C]

Jason called up.

[D]

Why?

[A]

He ain't. Because them locks niggas is disciplined. But that's why. Like, if the lox was on bullshit still. Like, if this was the nineties.

[D]

Oh, no, no, no.

[A]

But the locks is old and disciplined and protein shakes and veggies and she

[D]

jogging with his wife.

[A]

And positivity and motivation. It's all of that going on. So cool. Have at it. But the responses are telling you something. Jadakiss commenting and saying, hey, that's a safe place that you in. Says, I'm not rapping. We not rap. Fat Joe's response says what? Everybody is saying, hey, hey, look, I'm not rapping. They all saying, I'm not rapping. I'm gonna handle this.

[D]

And that's the accordingly. And that's the bad part. Like, how did we go from, Yo, I wanted you to be on my song.

[E]

Right?

[D]

I wanted a verse from you because I admire you and I revere you. And I wanted to.

[A]

I told y' all when that conversation came up, he was never getting down. No way.

[D]

No, I agree. Look, but I want you to enter into this gladiator space of rapping with me on my song.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Now we go from that to potentially forbid somebody could get hurt from behind this. We went from.

[A]

And we don't want none of that.

[D]

We don't want forbid.

[A]

But.

[E]

But that's what you're putting out in the world.

[D]

But that's what you put. That's the energy that you put out. This is not about rapping at this point. And all that shit stems from entitlement.

[E]

All of it.

[D]

On whose behalf? Spirit Kiss don't owe you nothing. So you mad he wouldn't do the verse and you start shooting at him that way. That's entitlement. I want to rap with you. You're ducking me. Won't give me the verse.

[E]

I'll try to get you.

[D]

That's entitlement, bro.

[E]

That's the thing.

[A]

That's where I want to shoot him some bail.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I used to do that.

[D]

Yeah, you were acting entitled too, though.

[B]

If I act.

[A]

No, it wasn't entitled.

[C]

It's not entitlement, bro.

[A]

If I ask you for a verse, I'm thinking we. It's all right. Or just introduction. I'm asking you for a verse.

[C]

And there was some. I want to interject briefly. There was some communication. Communication that a verse would happen at some point.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. But the fashion in which I learned that that verse is not happening is going to activate how I'm feeling about the matter. It's not that I feel I'm entitled by. I asked plenty of. For a verse. That's where my ASAP, Rocky G, the yams tweet. Yeah. Come to. Hey, hey. He tweeted some. Or Rocky said some shit and now I am on your ass.

[E]

You wouldn't give her.

[A]

You wouldn't give her you. Oh, that's how y' all feel. We on y' all niggas. It's not entitlement. It's. But the fact.

[D]

But for who? The fact that you don't get a verse and you lashing out because you didn't get something you wanted. That speaks to entitlement, Joe. Kinda. That's the definition of it. I wouldn't look at it as the motivation. It could be, but it could be.

[A]

It could be.

[D]

I don't.

[A]

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're not always right.

[C]

Yeah, it's rapper to me.

[A]

Rappers are entitled.

[E]

In this case, is it entitled?

[C]

I mean, I don't think it's entitled.

[E]

I thought when I first started, I thought just playfulness. I thought they were just playing. It was banter.

[A]

And as it continued, I said, oh, special. Don't have the greatest sense of humor. I've been right about this the whole way. Like with every showing that we see him, it's like, all right, you're not getting that verse. You don't have a great sense of humor and you sound a little serious. Like, you want to see this.

[E]

And that's where it got weird to me. Cuz I was like, oh, this is fun. At first I thought he was going to play, actually might even orchestrate it. Like, you know, they already had some verses played out. They already had a plan played out and they would doing it together. Then at some point, it just looked like dude was going off the reservation.

[C]

And even if it wasn't that, it should have. He should have played for that.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Even if there wasn't a communication of a verse happening, you should have let that happen naturally. Because I think it would have. Yeah, I think it would have.

[A]

I'd have even just rode the talk for a little longer and just silence his value. The street's talking, the rappers is talking, Podcasters, bloggers is talking. I'm getting my. I'm getting my off and I'm silent

[D]

and I'm getting my looks. And I would have had 17 verses in the tuck.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

To just be like, this is what I do. This is what I do.

[A]

Here's the record. I wanted Jadakiss on. He ain't on. I'm killing it Bomb. Like, here's my album.

[D]

Like, that goes to. Back to you. You speaking about the Summer Jam moment. Goes to that. This is I. When else do I get this opportunity? So I'm trying to make. We know what HOV did. The project Prodigy at Summer Jam. Now that was HOV headlining. It's a moment. People used to use Summer Jam to get their off you. All right, Now I'm here. It's a Summer Jam stage. Let me do it now. It didn't fall right. Let me put a record out.

[A]

It did.

[D]

Like, it's a bunch of missteps.

[G]

And.

[A]

And while I'm in rapper brain, let me get this off. I don't expect anybody to get it. Deadline. And since you've been in a minute with the stove guard hook, I might go backstage and give Hook stove got whatever that line was.

[E]

It's hate.

[A]

It's hate. It's hate. It's hate. You niggas not gonna get it.

[E]

It's hate.

[A]

Your men that you fly with, that you do shows with, that you do music with was on that Push It Clips album. And you Seen what it did. That's essentially your groupmate. That's not your groupmate. You see what he's doing, the looks. You see where the chess pieces are moving. He follows that up with more Roc Nationish Fat Joe Jadakiss. By now, I imagine Stove God's phone to be off the hook.

[D]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

By now, his phone will not stop ringing with people looking for him. You see that? You see that and you feel that. I won't give y' all 30 minutes on what the inner workings of Slaughterhouse looked like when Royce went and did that fucking bad meets evil project. But it was a few niggas mad. It was a few niggas mad about it. We had to try to disgu the effect, start coming up with all types of going on. So, yeah, we brothers. But now you throw that into this song, you start shooting at Roc Nation. It's like, I don't know what's going on with Special. He's clearly looks like he's gone rogue, Joe. But he shouldn't address Jadakiss again on

[E]

that rogue point on some rapper. Pick your rapper brain.

[A]

Go ahead, Mark.

[E]

Like, he's so talented, especially.

[A]

Yeah, nobody's denying that.

[E]

I mean, like, ridiculously talented. And I expected I had a high bar for him for what this was gonna be. When you get into this zone where you make some shit like he just made to go enroll, do you not run it past people? Cause there's no way his crew listen to that.

[A]

You can't ask me that. I never made nothing like that.

[E]

But is that because you can't make nothing like that or. Cause you ran some shit by people

[A]

that go back in the studio. Dis track veteran. I am a different monster and killer, okay? I was going to dis rappers that were better than me, more popular than me, and I was going to spend every second making sure every bar meant something. You say Arab did that beat? When me and Arab was in the lab coming up with this, I made that send me 39 beats to find the right one to diss Drake or whoever the that was. Like I wrote when I dissed Saigon Shout out to Sa.

[D]

I was at a wedding.

[A]

I was. I was with my significant other. We were at a wedding. Timeline jumping. Oh, such and such. Oh, work. Oh, say less at a wedding. Like you gotta be a psycho. Especially has up to this point has not shown that gotcha in. In. In his penmanship and ability. I'm not talking about ability to rap. I'm talking about different bag right here. It's totally different. He was supposed to kill Jadicus or tries, attempt, attempt. You. Yo, they tell you in the hood all the time, you gotta fight. Win or lose, you gotta fight. Cuz they gotta know you can fight. Basketball, you gotta shoot the jumper. We don't care. You got a jumper. You have to shoot that jumper. So they know you shoot that jumper to shoot it. Two lines to Jadicus. And this all started with Jadicus and you popping your like, I'm him. Park said, yo. Nah, he could talk to that.

[D]

He could talk to him.

[A]

And that verse that we heard was firing up where it's like. If every verse is like that, then he can't talk to him. Guess what? The greats are the greats because of the consistency. Because every time they pick up a pen and paper, every time they hit the booth, no matter who's in there, no matter what the topic, no matter what the song, no matter what the beat, they could do it. If you can't do that, Jadakiss is not somebody you should talk to.

[B]

And.

[D]

And one battle to tested. That nigga's going at against prime 50 beans. Like, yeah, like, yo, dog.

[A]

And is just a nice guy now, like today into 2026, he's a nice guy. Much easier to get the verse from this than when he was giving me the dub. I don't understand it especially. I'm just watching. I'm watching. That's my take. Please don't diss me. Don't just j the kids again, though. Let this go.

[C]

Yeah, you can let it.

[E]

Let it go.

[D]

You got to let it go.

[A]

Yo. Go focus on your do your man. If you gain one fan from this, it's awesome. Go focus on your. Leave these people alone, please. Wasn't that Jim Jones in Prime 112 when Homeboy went in there?

[B]

Yes, yes.

[D]

Like, dog, we just want to see steak got one.

[A]

No, come on. No, that's not right.

[F]

That's.

[A]

That, that, that, that, that.

[D]

That's why I don't like that.

[A]

I don't like that. I was on some rap once wanted to shoot at me for the things I said I told other people I didn't go grab weapon. Hey, hey, these are bad. I dumped that right on some other play. Hey, y' all want to do that? I'm out. But yeah, I just want to stay. If I'm in Miami, I want to go to Prime 1 12. I want to be able to walk. I want to be able to not need 100 when I'm moving around. I want to move with my girl in a different city.

[D]

I booked here. I want to move.

[A]

I want to move freely. At Ja Rule at the fucking whatever concert that was at the Barclays. He just want to perform. No, now it's random, nigga, no. Who are you when a punch me in the strip club? Who is this nigga I'm fighting?

[D]

That's scary.

[A]

Who are you?

[C]

Yeah, that's annoying.

[A]

I don't know you, you little punk.

[C]

Well, it's scary too. Yes, but even if the person isn't out to seriously hurt you, it's still annoying.

[D]

I'm walking to the pee.

[A]

I was walking to smoke.

[D]

I'm just saying. I'm walking to pee and a. I don't know, just socks me. That ain't have to be a punch.

[E]

That could have been a.

[A]

It is you. Yo, I'm on point. Why is. What are you crazy? Now you gotta go over and figure out who the fuck going. Joey's on parole.

[D]

You want to report?

[A]

No, man, leave him alone. Now you try to make it nastier. God damn it. Special.

[D]

Yeah. I didn't get it. I didn't get it.

[C]

Disappointing.

[A]

It's over. Yeah, it should be over.

[D]

It should be over. It's over. Like you know that more is coming. It should be over.

[C]

Over.

[A]

It's over. Like it's over.

[D]

Yo, you tried.

[A]

It's done. Keep it done. This is done.

[D]

I hope so.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't need no more of this.

[A]

We got more hip hop to debate.

[C]

We do.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So stay. Stay in this bag. I like this bag, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

This is a hit. This is a hip hop honest bag, y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

So let's keep this bag right here. I'm about to do this prize fix I had, but Mark has the worst bladder. Yo, jeans, man. Double entendre

[D]

with that bladder.

[A]

When he wears wedding ring, he don't pee as much. Damn. I don't understand. It's like a nervous. Listen, the summer of soccer is in the rear view, but you can still make all of your summer sports picks on pro prize picks. Preseason football is kicking off and the WNBA and baseball are heating up. Later we'll get into that WNBA scandal. Hey. Yep, I seen it. You, you, y' all over there. But we knew. We knew they was. I don't know why somebody had to tell us.

[C]

I can't wait. I didn't know.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

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[G]

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[A]

Paige buckers. He's got Paige again up here for 20 points. Put a lot of thought into this one. Angel Reese. Yo, that boy is in D.C. andrew Reese for more than 15 points. Jessica shepherd, he always try to throw a new one in there. That sound like his bag, though. Jessica shepherd for more than 17 rebounds and assist. And that is our ishlet of the week. Don't forget, if you download the app Prize Picks right this very second and use promo code JBP, you get $150 instantly. Ain't no 50. You get $150 instantly. Oh, shit. When you play your very first $5 lineup, man, prize picks, get into that over there. Shout out to Prize picks, please don't forget to use that promo jbp. And we are all to the good. Back to whatever we was just talking about. This is my last point. I don't want to make it dark or morbid, but it's always politics involved in this stuff. And rest in peace, Draco. Yeah, Draco. I always pronounce the e, Drake.

[D]

D, R, A K, E, O.

[E]

Like a Draco.

[A]

Oh, I'm slow. You know, I can't. I can't read. I can't read. Mark Draco. That's why I hired you. I ain't hear Drake. Oh, it's not Drakeo.

[E]

Look at that.

[A]

Rest in peace, Draco. Rest in peace, Draco. But you had the pre show of Summer Jam. I've never done the pre show, but I've been around it. You, you get two tickets. You get a couple, you can bring a couple, your homeboys. Whoever's on that main stage is going to get 500 tickets. I don't care how tough you are, you lose. Yeah, you lose. And that's all I'll say on that. Cuz I don't want to make this, dog, we in a great mood.

[D]

But that.

[E]

That was in.

[A]

In. In rap beef. Even if you think it's just lyrical, there are so many things to be considered. Who, who's home, who's away, who's on tour, who's who with who. Who can hit a recording studio faster? Who can. It's just so many factors.

[D]

Whose fan club is bigger?

[B]

Yeah,

[D]

who love this, yo? Yeah, who love this? Like, it'd be a lot of that. Yo, this for me, my family, etc. Etc. And you playing with yo. His wife. We got call her sis. You playing with sis like that. That don't got to say a word, right? That love him will go. And no, we not allowing that.

[A]

Just how petty is the. You dealing with? We going to buy the first nine. Nine rolls of your show now and throw Icicles up again.

[D]

We talking about we going to bang

[A]

them Smurf and throw the chairs. Chairs up there on the stage. That was a time. That was a time.

[D]

That don't even know the. The.

[A]

The artist that put me on the screen right after that. I'm like, what I'm gonna do after Smurf did all that? I'm not throwing nothing. I was calling Ebro. How could you let this happen? Change the screen. Tell the Ebro.

[D]

What you say is no, I'm saying it don't gotta be your entourage. It don't even gotta be nobody. You know, it'll be. Yo, when I was. He was looking my man out, so I know he a standup dude. And as a result, you could just again be walking to the bathroom, dawg.

[A]

When them Drake fans came to my house on Myrtle Avenue, there was kids. They didn't look like kids, though. It's the new age kids. They could have got. Something bad could have happened. Once I got to them and realized, oh, y' all don't have mustaches. Now. I can't hit y', all, but the point is seven in the morning, I'm going to my car to go. That was when I was on my Dunkin Donuts floor. I'm going to Dunk Dunkin.

[G]

Don't.

[A]

Let's get my coffee. I'm going to get coffee. Why are you idiots about my car right now?

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's just stupid. And if you're ready to deal with all of that, then, hey, have at it, man. Have at it, man. I also don't like the. The New York division angle that is somehow going to creep his way into this. Buffalo just got back into his bag.

[C]

He's from Rochester.

[D]

From Rochester.

[A]

Rochester. I mean, what we going to do? Yeah, he's from Rochester. I like Rochester.

[C]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

I've always had fun in Rochester.

[C]

And I love Special Man.

[D]

And they play out there. They play hard out there.

[C]

They do.

[D]

Like that ain't like it ain't no little layup. Them. Yeah, them go. And that's the up part.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Rochester shows caused plenty of fights between me and Corey, at least in my head. Like, yo, where did you book me? Yo, where did you. Where are we now sometimes? No, we had great times in Rochester. Even the times where it was.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Shaky. I'm one sleep in the car. I wake up to the. We are in the hood. We in the hood is the hoods. Yo. Stupid ass Cory come give you the mic in the car. Stupid ass Cory, come give you the mic in the car. That's the sign to let you know.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're walking through. Straight to the. You're walking through Rochester to get your pump, pump, pump, pump. And we going to have to make it up. This Corey is a lunatic.

[D]

Hey, had to pay the bills, right?

[A]

The mic in the car now. Got to make sure the Battery right. We 10,000ft away. Y Y. Yeah, you cutting in and out. That is a mess. Shout out to Rochester and shout out to the Rochester Rochester chicks. Because that's really what we go for. That's really what we go. When you want some ghetto. And we gonna talk about ghetto later. When we talk about Chattanooga.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Shorty. Yeah, yeah. On the stage, Russia.

[A]

Pretty lady, very pretty. But. And she made valid points. Ah, I don't know whose side I'm on. She did make valid points.

[C]

She did.

[A]

What's a valid point?

[B]

What's the valid point?

[D]

We'll talk about it.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Yes, we'll talk about it.

[D]

Going to talk about it.

[A]

Get the rap out the way first.

[B]

Talking about this. They got boss.

[A]

Yeah. No, don't call me that.

[B]

You are their boss.

[A]

Don't call me that.

[D]

They boss?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Not your boss.

[B]

Not at all. It's my man.

[E]

Who's your boss at all.

[D]

At all.

[B]

No taking stands now. I'm not trying.

[E]

Once they sign that contract, boy, everything changed.

[A]

Let's get. Which is the irony.

[C]

But

[A]

why you got to do that? Go ahead, man. Go ahead.

[B]

It's to bother him, to get him

[A]

in the mood to get flip. I'm not getting at nobody.

[B]

Listen.

[C]

Look at me.

[E]

Now. You need to let it out.

[B]

Well, you gotta let it out. You gotta let it out.

[A]

It's not gonna work. I have nothing to let out. I'm in a great mood. There's nothing going on.

[E]

How could you not be?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

So now we have Bleak versus Uncle Murder and Tony, yo.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm looking for with a Bleak clip. Okay. I have the bleed clip.

[C]

Look at that.

[B]

Yo was up here.

[E]

Yale's thing had. What does he say?

[D]

That Jay Z don't have nobody.

[A]

Jay Z don't help nobody.

[D]

Yo. Say 401k records. It's called hold it down, homie. Drop some heat. Ain't paying your bills, cuz. That's what it is. Can't compete. That's why they talk like that. You if 50 said one year. These niggas are being a shelter. They shouldn't be allowed them to talk about us or anybody when you literally are.

[A]

It's a long clip, but I'm gonna let it go just for context.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Hey, that is insane to me, man. Like can't even wear their jury without they boss.

[E]

Damn.

[D]

Show me a picture of Yayo walking around with his chain. The passport chain. I gotta see it. But ain't taking care of you. Goddamn right they ain't.

[A]

I gotta pause this just to highlight. That's a ill observation.

[D]

That's.

[A]

That's on par with me talking about that little window. That's an ill observation to make that somebody is not wearing a certain chain. I heard that and was like you peep. You peep this. Oh, you paid fair.

[D]

He's right.

[A]

I would have never made that observation. Is I. I've you paying you paying attention to some. But anyway I'm Let it clear.

[D]

I've seen it.

[E]

Yo, I think I heard y say that you and.

[F]

Which I.

[E]

Which is crazy.

[A]

Say you and J, you can't borrow your man chain no more. Is that over? Is that one of. Is that on the list? Now you just can't talk?

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I can't talk if I borrow my man's. Shane, I'm asking. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm asking y'.

[C]

All.

[D]

I mean it's depend on what kind of shit. It depends on what kind of shit you're talking.

[A]

Who you talking to. Yeah, right.

[D]

Like you might have to tone it down a little bit. I think. I think. I think if you are saying you're a boss of all bosses and you carry yourself accordingly, then you. If you got your own fly chain. And I just want to borrow my man chain for that day.

[F]

Cool.

[D]

But if you don't have a chain and I don't know what these niggas drop jewelry collections look like I'm just speaking objectively then it's it's a thing that it's like dissing the for flying in commercial seats and the look up and you in commercial seats like I'm not wearing nobody else's chick and and

[E]

it's a little situation except for that when you wearing that but that was

[A]

that which is mine.

[B]

That was a thing though Wanted to get change. That was a thing. That was a thing in New York thing.

[A]

That was a thing.

[B]

Yo breathing like you was top down was wearing chain I'm the not I'm

[D]

not doing this with you my

[B]

Listen listen listen listen listen. I can't hear you trying to your man trying to help you again Listen your man trying to jump in and be and help you be a groupie.

[E]

Listen let me just say you weren't wearing Shanes.

[B]

No what I'm saying is that I wore that don't make me a groupie your man.

[E]

That makes you a little man.

[B]

No it don't make you a little man either.

[E]

Yes it do.

[B]

It does not make you a big homie.

[A]

Don't borrow people chains Are you all putting an age on this?

[B]

Hold on.

[E]

I'm not being funny.

[B]

I'm saying rest in peace Maserati Fox one of the gangsters of the gangster

[A]

recipe Fox I love you.

[B]

He he wore 50 chain and then he had his own that's not no son give you their chains when you become a partner you're not their son.

[A]

I wore a web chain all the

[B]

time but you could tell what. But that's the only that's the only correlation that's the chain but you also

[D]

not talking to that way that's the

[A]

part

[D]

I'm totally different I'm not and

[B]

you're a little bit different change sometimes when you coming up in the game

[D]

but you said but the scenario that you just gave was yo once you become affiliated with this we give you a chain that's like a Rockefeller chain. If Joe came up here it would be hard pressed but if everybody up here had a chain.

[A]

Yeah. Cause you won't wear the the sunglasses I bought you on some pride shit. Put the shades on. You'll never get another pair of shades again.

[B]

Stupid in with yo how you know what I wore you did it.

[A]

Tell me you wore me Home Depot in D.C. though he had shades in D.C. you know he had shades and lookers and lookers ass. Anyway go ahead that's a totally different

[D]

thing like if everybody got a Rockefeller chain on us different than my man having a chain. And I'm wearing my man's chain. Chain outside to do whatever.

[A]

My question. Is there age limit on this?

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

No.

[D]

I think it's just a status thing. And to Mark's point, yo, the big homie don't wear the little chain.

[B]

I don't agree. I see niggas put chains on big homies. I seen niggas take chains on everybody

[A]

ain't the big homie.

[B]

I know.

[E]

Then you can't talk.

[A]

The big homie is a thing. That's a role that ain't. Everybody ain't cool.

[E]

You don't talk like you are.

[B]

What is big homies?

[A]

Did Tony Yayo talk like that?

[C]

Press play.

[A]

I'm playing. I'm finishing obliquely, cuz we going to fight.

[E]

Ship is just more was more business. I've never seen it.

[D]

Well, him and 50 friendship is just financial.

[A]

Yeah, 40. Yeah.

[F]

Both 48.

[D]

Going back and forth each other. Sounds crazy, yo, but I'm just saying

[F]

is

[E]

good for content.

[D]

I dropped bombs.

[A]

We just.

[D]

We got a new song out right now, right? No more produced by Cool and Dre.

[A]

Moving your record. I don't know.

[D]

He's a dependent. You, of course you view life through.

[E]

Look out for me.

[D]

I never looked at.

[E]

Come on.

[D]

Jay raised bosses, man. He don't raise dependents. We all bosses. Business owners. Well, I got a bar in the restaurant in Vegas. Tell him pull up and come eat. Everything free on me.

[A]

Don't tell me to come eat.

[D]

We got all that flashy S car cargo, all that. The bill is covered. We feed people on this side, too.

[A]

He said Jay Z doesn't support me.

[E]

BLEEP the way 50 Cent looks out for him.

[C]

But how?

[D]

Where's his records? Where's his businesses? Where's his.

[A]

Do he even have a.

[D]

Wait, let me ask you a question.

[A]

He does.

[D]

Do this nigga have children?

[A]

That's right, Andy. When do we travel with his family?

[E]

Do we do it?

[D]

When is family time? I don't want to hear this 50 Cent Shin Jay Z shit. My wife right here. We just came from Paris rocking the chateau. My daughter was in there. Was in the room Leonardo da Vinci built. You know what I'm saying? Hey, my son just was at night one reasonable doubt. Where's these kids? And you talking about somebody taking care of you. Who are you taking care of, man? Like, yo, we 50 and you still want to take care of you is insane to me and the fans online think he went off.

[A]

He went off.

[B]

He.

[A]

He went off.

[E]

He Ain't doing that, though.

[A]

That was your first time hearing that?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Thoughts, Mark.

[B]

Mine too.

[A]

Had a smorgasbord.

[E]

I don't care what's true or not. Right now. We just talking about as. As content and as bars. He killed that.

[D]

What?

[E]

And he's right.

[D]

That's what Special did.

[G]

What?

[F]

Come on.

[E]

That was crazy.

[D]

I love that he's speaking to the fact, cuz, like anytime somebody say something to Yayo and murder about money, lifestyle, he's constantly saying, yeah, fifty got us this, fifty got us that. Fifty got us this, fifty got us in Dubai eating this. Fifty got us like, it's so he's speaking to the bleak is like. I'm not saying hov got us over here doing this. Hov got me doing this. He put me in position so I could do it. Whereas y', all, he's making it, you know, it's apples. He's basically telling you we don't on the same level. Stop playing with me.

[A]

Okay, the Yayo clip is long. I'm going to play a portion of it and then I'll jump to the Uncle Murder tidbit that's flying around. That's 50 seconds.

[E]

Well, a lot of rappers, bro. A lot of rappers came to my house and got motivated. I had houses, houses, not a house. But I don't like to brag about money. I like to stay humble like you guys do. Cuz I know a lot of people don't.

[A]

And this is on million dollars worth of games. Shout out to Gillian wild passport change.

[E]

50 is not a around. Why are we talking about. That's all I'm saying.

[F]

I don't.

[E]

I don't see. Y' all got plenty of money. Y' all buy cars and watches like rich people do. Ain't really talking about change. Yo, you don't have the passport chain. Because what it was is Yayo came

[B]

back from the dead.

[E]

Yayo got a second win and can't stand it sometimes. It could be a that's around me that can't stand. Yayo got a second win on his own without 50. I went on Vlad, yo, you bugging. I went on a million dollars a game that took me there. I went on she, Shannon Sharp. I went on all these big platforms by myself and sold my personality just like y' all do, but are going to continue to. Hey, you had your one day on stage with Jay, which is cool.

[G]

Feel good.

[B]

Would you be the leverage?

[D]

Would you be one day.

[E]

It was one day on stage with James.

[G]

It's cool.

[E]

So I Know you're gonna feel good about yourself. Want to pump out your chest. Then you want to sell a record.

[A]

What you mean with Jay just perform?

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

When Jay just performed. Okay.

[A]

One day out.

[E]

You know we do that with 50 every other week. I'm not supposed to go out and get the money. We on a private jet. We getting smoked up.

[F]

We chilling.

[D]

Yo, you can't listen.

[A]

Give me another meal, man. Something else in the menu.

[E]

All right. Cat cursing, caviar.

[A]

We chilling.

[E]

I never. I'm a humble. It's between Queens and Nashville. We deliver.

[A]

All right, let me get to the murder clip.

[D]

Verse I ever like is the one

[A]

that Jay Z bro.

[D]

The only bleak verse I ever like is the one that Jay Z vote. I ain't never like a bleak verse that he broke by himself. Fuck out of here. Memphis bleak fans like that neither. I'm just saying.

[F]

Back to that.

[D]

I'm just.

[A]

I'm dead serious.

[D]

Bank account and business statements for business statements. And we could do it next week. And let's check the transactions. You know you can scratch it out. So nobody wire nobody nothing. Let's see how much money really got.

[A]

And check the safe.

[D]

We got the safe money too. I got a safe safe in the crib. And I just took my kids first class flights on Disney. We was in Disney World.

[A]

I do the with the kids and

[E]

do what he thought he did.

[A]

It was me and two in the

[E]

homies and 13 kids and I'm with the Disney.

[A]

Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts.

[F]

That.

[B]

That last part.

[A]

That's funny, son.

[E]

I don't give a.

[D]

You responding to me saying I took the family to.

[E]

To Paris, right? Disney. I don't give a teacups.

[D]

Now.

[A]

Now hold up as a.

[D]

With a couple kids. Disney's pricey.

[A]

Disney ain't cheap. Disney ain't cheap. He said 13 kids.

[D]

I start doing the math.

[A]

I don't far from cheap, dog.

[D]

I know what I looked at for four kids. So you might.

[B]

That.

[E]

That is 13 kids first class to Disney ain't. It's probably more expensive than the chateau in Paris, but it's. It sound crazy.

[D]

It sound crazy. That's all I'm saying.

[E]

I'm Bush Gardens.

[A]

Percy Park.

[D]

N. I get it though, man.

[A]

That's funny. This stupid.

[E]

Oh, man.

[B]

So don't touch me. I'm not down with you don't touch me at all.

[D]

I get it though. I get it.

[B]

Don't touch me. I'm not down with y'.

[A]

All.

[D]

That ain't ch.

[B]

Is crazy.

[A]

That ain't ch.

[B]

I. I understand. Disney is expensive.

[E]

It is. He not wrong.

[B]

It's funny you saying the comparison to Disney and Paris, it just don't sound

[E]

like a. Yeah, I mean, it's not. That's apples to potential potatoes, dog.

[B]

I feel like there's different. I feel like in each category, people looked at Bleak and said that, you know, Jay helped them. And people look at Yayo and them said 50 helped them. It's just, I guess, like you said,

[A]

it's a lot that goes back.

[D]

That goes back to the whole line. Bleak could be one hit.

[E]

Hold up.

[D]

That goes back to Bleak could be one hit away. His whole career. As long as I'm alive, he's a millionaire. So it. It in that line, if you. I'm just.

[B]

That's what they hate. Okay, hold up now. Let me. But there's nothing wrong with you bigging your mans up. That put you on. Now, that's what.

[E]

That's.

[B]

That's what niggas forget. There's a lot of. Everybody want to be a boss, but don't want to be whatever that that line is. I can't say it.

[A]

But a worker.

[B]

No, the chief Indian joint. I ain't got to say that. Yeah, yeah, but, but, but what I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with bringing your man up. No, nothing wrong with saying, yo, my man put me in this position. If it wasn't for my man, I wouldn't be in this position. I'll be here. There's nothing wrong with that. Don't want to highlight that. Got a lot of ego.

[D]

But the way they make us wear

[B]

sunglasses, for God's sake. Don't want us wear sunglasses for God's sake. These niggas and their egos is so beyond the world. Pick and choose who to have egos with, who not to have egos with.

[E]

I just think it goes.

[B]

There's nothing wrong with you bigging up your man.

[A]

Yo, thank you, bro.

[B]

My man. Put me on. You gotta be comfortable within yourself to be able to acknowledge a nigga putting you on. Niggas look at it as you a little man. By acknowledging your man, there's nothing wrong.

[C]

You were just denying that.

[A]

You see that you lost.

[B]

No, what I'm saying is that, you

[E]

know, he writes your checks.

[B]

No, I acknowledge Joe. I'm Queen's flip. I can acknowledge a nigga. Cause I'm comfortable who I am. Nigga, you stripped me from all this shit and put me outside in the mother of fucking Central Park. I'm gonna make it shake. But at the end of the day, I'm gonna make it shake

[E]

in Central Park. Stripped me down to Central park and I'm shooting.

[B]

At the end of the day, I can acknowledge that, yo, my man, my guy made it an easier path for me and made it more comfortable for me to get where I'm at.

[E]

You can acknowledge is nuts.

[D]

So let me acknowledge. Let me acknowledge your shot. Cause you were shooting at me.

[B]

I was.

[D]

There's not been a platform that I've gotten on that I don't big up, Joe Bud.

[C]

True.

[D]

That's number one.

[A]

You could do it more, though.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

That's a fact. You right what you're saying there.

[A]

You can do a little more.

[B]

I did hear you right.

[A]

I could do a little more.

[B]

No, he's right. I know.

[D]

Number two, there's a fine line between me appreciating and showing appreciation for somebody for assisting me and me cheerleading for them. There's a fine line. And so because somebody don't necessarily. So, because somebody.

[G]

What did you say?

[A]

I said, now you shooting back.

[B]

Let me take him to school.

[F]

Go ahead.

[D]

No, so because I don't necessarily get up at every single single interview or if Bleak. Not necessarily. Jay Z. Jay Z. Jay Z, Jay Z. That don't mean that he not being taken care of by Jay Z. Everybody don't gotta do that in a public approach.

[B]

I agree.

[D]

We don't know what business dealings Jay Z has did with Bleak. We don't know none of that shit. So to say that bleak don't get taken care of by Jay or vice versa. I think it's corny for black men or older men because these niggas ain't young to be. Be like, yo, yo, your big homie don't look out for you. Yo, your big homie don't look out for you. Yo, I got blah, blah, blah, blah. Cause of my big homie. No, I got blah, blah, blah, blah. Cause I got outside and I earned it on my own. That's what grown men do.

[A]

I want to play this. I want to play this clip that Bleak. Bleak quoted and said. This is. He's proven my exact point here. Well, yeah, if.

[B]

If 50 stop with with for a

[D]

year, it'll be over.

[A]

I will be in a trap. What is you talking about? That's the part.

[D]

That's the point. He.

[A]

I think that line is being understood differently by the two parties. And that's what the problem is.

[B]

I understand what he meant, though.

[D]

He said.

[B]

He meant I'll be not the trap. Say it Again, I'll get to work. Yeah, yeah, I'll be outside getting to it. Not enough. You thought the trap had fallen the hood.

[A]

No, he's saying. He's saying if 50 stop doing whatever he's doing, I'll be fine because I'm going back to what I know. I'm getting a shake and I'm in the trap. I'm moving. He went on to say, that's where I come from. That's all I've done. He said, I'll be right on 145th and God brew or wherever.

[E]

He said.

[A]

And what Bleak is saying is

[D]

you.

[A]

You won't have a legal means right to earn income.

[E]

And that's how I heard it, like. Cause it sounds like you said, if not for 50, I'd be back in the hood.

[D]

That's how I heard it too.

[A]

That's why I don't really love you as an example. And this is. You don't belong in this conversation. You did what you did long before. Like, it don't fit here.

[D]

No, what I'm saying, I don't know what he do. You mean me personally?

[A]

He build ounces, that's how I don't

[E]

know what he do in D.C. well, houses, nigga.

[D]

Yo, so. No, what I'm saying is if you're saying that if I lose this particular piece of income, I would be back on. He named a block.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Which means you are. I don't know if that means I'm outside outside or if I'm outside scrambling, but when you name a block, that means you're going outside to that particular block to do whatever you gotta do to survive. That's how I took it. I didn't think I took it that way as well. And when you want on one interview saying, Yo, 50 got us over here and you naming countries and. And then you turn right around and say, well, if 59 here, I'm going to the block. That's a step. That's acknowledging multiple.

[B]

But he said. I didn't hear.

[D]

He named. He named.

[B]

I got you.

[C]

I didn't think he meant it that literally.

[B]

Not me neither. Maybe I'm wrong, but.

[D]

What, you going to put a dry cleaners there? Like, I.

[A]

He's saying, I'm gonna be okay regardless. That's all.

[D]

No, but in what manner?

[A]

Right. That's the difference of.

[E]

That's.

[A]

That's the difference in what they're talking about here.

[E]

Surviving.

[D]

He's saying, I'm gonna survive. Cool. I'm gonna survive. I know how to get it I know how to go. I know how to eat. I'm not gonna starve. I might not be eating escargot no more. I might not be eating caviar bumps no more.

[B]

Like.

[D]

Like the.

[E]

That you naming at Dorney park instead of Disney.

[A]

And that's why it feels like Bleak is saying, you can't. Then y' all can't speak to me.

[D]

And that's what he is.

[A]

You don't. You don't. You don't see me around. And we would be saying the same thing of Bleak. If every time we saw hov we kind of saw Bleak. Anytime hov did a show, anytime hov and B was somewhere we saw Bleak, we would be looking at Bleak. Like Bleak could be one hit away. His whole career. As long as he alive, he a millionaire. For a lot of people, they're only really seeing Yale and Murder when they with 50. And I don't think that that's a bad thing.

[D]

That's not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

[A]

The negative connotation comes from. All right, well, what would be happening without those people? Murder named a bunch of businesses. Murder said, I got this. We got a dispensary. We got this. We can go business for business, band for band. We got safe, we're fine. But the optics of it, right, because nobody's thinking about Yale and Murders businesses in this optic shaming battle.

[D]

The negativity comes from. It come from the way Murder and Yale talk.

[A]

Well, that's why. That's where it comes to me. Well, maybe they do. Yale and Murder started this. They were the first people to jump out and say, yeah, they ain't helping these. These ain't about nothing. Bleak's Breakfast Club interview is a response responsing.

[G]

Yes.

[A]

So for their response to be this when they initiated it, I just don't really understand that part. I don't get that part and say what you want. I don't believe one word that Uncle Murder is saying about never liking the Memphis Bleed.

[E]

Ver.

[A]

I just don't believe that.

[D]

Fire verses and fire.

[A]

How old is Uncle Murder? We in the same age.

[E]

We said nothing. He from the era that Bleak wrote.

[D]

He said he like the one that. That Bleak wrote. Bleak versus the one J.

[C]

There's sauce all over this shit. They just put.

[A]

It's a sauce off.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, they talking.

[C]

They talking. It seems to be playful, but it's funny.

[D]

All in the content world.

[A]

Ver did hov right for bl.

[E]

He wrote.

[D]

Did he write?

[E]

He wrote Coming Age.

[D]

He said that's the only verse he likes.

[E]

Yeah, he wrote the two Age. He wrote. He wrote Unreasonable Doubt. His versus Unreasonable Doubt. Then he wrote the joint. Was that volume one? I mean, volume two.

[D]

Volume two, Volume two?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. He wrote both of those, as far as I know.

[C]

Oh, coming age two?

[E]

Yeah. Coming age two, yeah.

[A]

And that's it.

[D]

He's wrestled.

[E]

What's Bleak's best business?

[A]

He got too many.

[D]

He got a lot. He got a lot.

[A]

He got a lot.

[D]

Has a lot of.

[A]

Why I'm saying. I don't believe one. Uncle Murder is saying you came up in the same era. Bleak had way too many. That hov didn't have nothing to do. You was there for his dad, your chick. You was there for brown hair. You was there for Do My Lady. Bleak is. What's that, 94 or some 95. Whatever it was. I don't. My years. My years are no mint. Bleak is not 04m.

[D]

Bleak is ain't 94.

[A]

No, it ain't 94.

[D]

Reasonable without. Came out in 96.

[A]

Then it's 96, 97.

[D]

It's early.

[A]

It's early. You was there for him and League got joints.

[E]

He got joints.

[D]

That's all that matters. He got.

[A]

If Bleak were to do a versus against Yayo and Uncle Murder, I think he would fair. Okay.

[D]

Would win.

[C]

I think he would win.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I think.

[A]

Well, Ice is going to bring up all of the G Unit mixtapes and they're. And.

[D]

And you ain't got to go mixtape just Unit Records again. We. If you taking G Unit off. Okay. Different conversation. If that G Unit is in there. No, it's not gonna go that way.

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

It's not gonna go that way.

[A]

I got Bleak winning, but I understand.

[E]

It's not a crazy take, but I got Bleak winning, too.

[A]

Bleak is on you, me, him, her.

[B]

Yep.

[D]

How many songs we talking about?

[A]

Bleak is on. On the what, like Mind, Right. Remix. Oh, he's on the whole Dynasty album.

[E]

Yeah, I got Bleak.

[A]

I got Bleak, but I understand.

[E]

But I respect. Yeah, he ain't easy out, but yeah,

[A]

Yayo has a catalog. I'm not all the way familiar with all Uncle Murder, so I won't speak on it, but Yale, I listen, I'm out of this. Yeah, I'm out of this. They having a band off. I'm going to watch business off. I'm going to watch. These are all three.

[D]

They having a content off, man.

[A]

People that I think are extremely entertaining.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. They're all Good at it. They are like, back to the special. Like, this ain't getting personal. Like, these is having fun. Everybody up. They sit here talking. They. Nobody's going to. If I see that, I'm going go.

[A]

Yeah, I think, I think Bleak could sit on an airplane seat in front of these two and be okay.

[C]

Yeah, there'd be some jokes somewhere, but.

[E]

Yeah, but that's good.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[D]

That's what we want.

[E]

And I love the content wars and the fun talking.

[D]

As long as it stay here.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, as long as it stay here.

[D]

Especially what niggas is doing to hide everybody.

[A]

Everybody healthy, everybody getting money. Awesome, right? Everybody is entitled to their perspective, even when it come to other niggas. Hey, you think some niggas that's popped is a failure, nigga? So be it. Go ahead. Ain't my business. What else. What else in music needs our attention? Doesn't need our attention. Come on, let's get to it. We getting to it today.

[E]

PR Explain his Usher concert to me.

[A]

Okay. Well, well, it's the Chris Brown Usher.

[E]

I saw homegirl on stage.

[D]

Chris Brown concert.

[A]

Chris Brown Usher.

[E]

Chris Brown and friends.

[A]

Yo, why y' all doing that?

[E]

That's so disrespectful.

[A]

Why y' all doing that? New account.

[D]

You know, I'm just telling the truth.

[A]

But if he say Usher and Chris Brown, you know the concert.

[D]

He didn't say that. He said it's the Usher concert.

[E]

Well, he was. Okay. Usher was giving a performance on stage.

[A]

Got it.

[C]

There you go.

[E]

That's what I'm talking about.

[D]

There we go.

[E]

And I saw homegirl. He that he was entertaining, looking less than enthused. And at some point he walks away and does the like.

[D]

Get out of here, Gabrielle.

[B]

Cheyenne is her name.

[E]

Break it down for me.

[B]

You said it. You said it.

[E]

Yeah. What happened after? That's the part. I, I didn't hear her response. I saw the and I, she responded

[A]

a bunch of times.

[E]

I was like, she looked bored as. Yeah, that's all I saw.

[B]

She, she about to play.

[D]

But she got the clip. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which clip? It's mad.

[D]

Like I said, she's been everywhere.

[C]

Would you.

[A]

I don't think so.

[G]

I mean, it's, it's not bothering me. I, I, I, I don't feel a way towards it. I don't feel embarrassed. I don't feel like this is ruing me in the public eye. No. Or whatever. Because, you know, it's been plenty of trolls and whatever else. Oh, well, why would you do that? And you should be embarrassed. It was even. Even people harassing me while I was walking out of stadium.

[F]

Oh, really?

[G]

While me and my family was walking out of the stadium, people were harassing us. Oh, well, you should have did this. I would have did this. Were you available to go on stad.

[B]

You'll go to the TMZ one?

[D]

Yeah, that was. That was more after the fact.

[G]

It wasn't that I was into it. I was a mom clip daddy and upgraded to vip. And they don't give you any instructions on who, what, when, where, or how.

[A]

They didn't tell you they were fully on stage?

[G]

They told me that it was a.

[A]

I'm gonna pause this. Hey, Harvey, you looking nuts. I don't want to say none. I don't know what's going on. I don't know if you lost your brush, your facial cleanser. You look. You've aged, buddy. Harvey look old as. And it happened fast. I don't know if y' all see it. Y' all don't care anyway ability of

[G]

me going on stage. But they didn't. They didn't confirm that until it was closer to time for me to go on stage. And of course you're getting to go up on stage. Why would I decline that? People are pulling the narrative that I'm in a relationship or. Or whatever the case may be. No one can tell me the reasoning as to why I say yes to getting on stage. But you also don't know who you're going on stage for or.

[E]

Or.

[G]

Or with.

[D]

I'm gonna kind of pick up with

[A]

you put down there.

[D]

You said, I didn't know who I

[A]

was gonna be pulled up on stage with. The way I see it, there are two people. There's Usher and there's Chris Brown. And that means Chris Brown. And you got Usher. And you would have been more into it with Chris Brown.

[D]

Am I reading this right?

[G]

Me solely. I went to the concert for Chris Brown. It's nothing against Usher or anything like that, but I'm more of a Chris Brown fan than I am of Usher. So of course, it would have been a different reaction with Chris Brown. It would have been the stiffness or whatever the Internet is portraying.

[B]

So you.

[D]

After what happened, happened.

[A]

Some of the fans. All right. We heard when the black guy with the dress. I don't think I'm cool. The TMZ dude. TMZ dude. I'm cool off him. So go ahead, flip.

[D]

Cause you said you had some problems with.

[A]

Do you. Gentlemen.

[B]

Yo, you remember that?

[A]

Do I remember what?

[D]

Like back in the day when we used to bust a move, they'd be stiff with you. I mean, free as a bird.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[E]

It's one of them.

[A]

Try to bait me. So I'm chilling. My memory is foggy. You still speak to her, too. I knew that.

[D]

I knew that line was coming.

[E]

Cupcake.

[A]

Sucker for love ass. Anyway, what do y' all think that this young lady is wrong for how she handled the situation on stage? What would y' all have done in that situation?

[C]

Well, that's a little weird.

[A]

Not y'.

[G]

All.

[A]

I give it on us.

[E]

I think that's the dangers of pulling

[C]

random people from the crowd. Like, they're not gonna necessarily know how to get.

[D]

Or they might not be. Yo, he was trying to kiss her. Let's say she did have a boyfriend. Or let's just say she ain't want to kiss him necessarily. I don't think she's wrong. And how she handled it. I don't think she wrong.

[A]

I can't say that she's wrong.

[E]

I can.

[B]

I don't think she should have went on stage. But if.

[D]

I don't know, I don't think she.

[B]

That's. That's. I don't think she should have went. She tried to. She went up there and messed up the essential piece part of the performance. That's what it is to try to. Even if you didn't want to. I get it. You don't have to do it. But there's ways to go about it. And you could have not gone.

[A]

I want to. Slow down, slow down.

[E]

Hold up.

[A]

Freeze. I want us to attempt. I know we just old niggas up here. Let's attempt to be a little reasonable.

[D]

I'm trying this lady.

[B]

Reasonable doubt, nigga.

[A]

This lady goes to a show with her people, what, with her mom.

[B]

Talk of you.

[A]

I got a spider on me or something.

[D]

She was at the show with our moms. She got a show with her mother. They moved and somebody else.

[A]

They were spotted and moved from their seats that they purchased to the special VIP area. And what you saying? Do you think they shouldn't have done that?

[B]

She should have done that.

[A]

We definitely going in a special vip and we not asking, hey, who's bringing us? We going. Going to the section, of course. So now somebody said, hey, we bringing you to the stage.

[D]

It's a possibility that we're gonna bring

[A]

you at this point, you know, that's why you in the special VIP area. So it's a trade off. And you do know that as a

[D]

fan and not just that, you know that, you know, you've seen clips, you know, that's a part of the show from all Chris from, not just this tour. He brings a girl on stage. He do what he do, feeds the cheers. I'm talking about the Chris shit. She's a Chris fan, so she sees what Chris does on the show. You know, oh, we gonna bring me to the stage.

[A]

Bet.

[D]

Like, you see the clips of everybody else going, yo. You see the clips of the other girls, and they be like, yo, oh, she didn't do right. Oh, I would have did this. I would. This is my town.

[A]

She was ready to go. Let that Chattanooga snapper go crazy on stage if it was Chris.

[F]

All good.

[A]

That chatty, snappy, take you down.

[B]

Exactly.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

But see, all that's good to me, right? But at the moment that you about to hit the. The stage, and it ain't Chris on there as Usher, get the off. Say, I'm not going and go back to Gym Pop.

[A]

No, you're not.

[C]

Or just go up there or go

[E]

up there and put on. I'm not saying.

[B]

That's what I'm Joe.

[E]

What I'm saying is that's what she should do.

[F]

You either.

[E]

Either go up there and pretend or don't go up there.

[B]

But don't.

[E]

Don't. On my man's performance. Don't go up there looking crazy. Just don't do it. That's not fair to him.

[A]

So.

[D]

So let me ask you a question.

[E]

You always cap for these.

[D]

I think there should have just been a clearer. So let me ask you a question. So what you're saying is that when Usher brings her up and he goes. Cause he looked like he was trying to kiss her.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean, she was just leaning part of the. I don't think Chris.

[A]

Chris be kissing y'.

[G]

All.

[A]

Come on, y'.

[G]

All.

[C]

But I don't think Usher be kissing Usher.

[E]

Don't be kissing him.

[A]

Yo, Chris be what?

[D]

Yo, so my point is.

[A]

Hey, Chris tried to kiss that girl. The. The. The Internet start talking shit. That nigga Chris start closing the curtains on y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

All right, Watch this. Put the lights off. The lights out in here. I'm this chick right now.

[D]

So if the girl wasn't in the.

[A]

In the getting moved.

[F]

Yeah, Mo.

[D]

Mind frame, whatever the case may be, you're saying she should have faked it and kissed him or did whatever.

[E]

That's not what I'm saying.

[B]

If he said she should have got

[E]

on stage, based on bas, I'm assuming everything she's saying is true and that she said, I would have been into it. Yeah. Forget kissing. I'm saying, even just the way she was sitting there looking bored and stiff. Hold on, let me just share my thought. I'm saying don't go to. To the stage. Don't put on a. Just don't go. I'm not saying she should have to do anything with her body she don't want to. I'm saying don't fucking go. Let somebody else go.

[A]

My problem with your take is it's extremely ambitious.

[D]

Right.

[A]

The number one fear in the country for a long time was speaking in front of a crowd. Some people can't stand in front of a crowd without looking. She could have had all of that in her mind. Hey, I'm gonna go up there and try to. But once she got up there in front of all of those people, those lights, Usher sweating on top of you, singing, can you handle it? It's a lot. Maybe you do have.

[E]

What.

[A]

Who knows? It's a lot to deal with. She makes. She's not a performer. This young lady is not an entertainer. When you pull from the audience, you get whatever you get from the audience. If it's a bad question, if it's a bad audience member, then that's just what it is. What be happening is these niggas be up there with the horny eye. Come on, let's just call it.

[D]

Let's just call it what the fuck it is.

[A]

Yeah, we've been to shows. We know what happened, but we send Savon in the audience audience to get audience questions. People here that have been on tour, please speak to it so I don't

[E]

sound like a maniac.

[C]

We were rap tour. Like, we bring people up there.

[A]

Go out there and find women that come back here, find some heat, enjoy this charcuterie and eat this apple juice that we not going to drink. This woman is going to go take it back to the double tree.

[E]

Everything.

[D]

You just said m. You on tour.

[A]

I wasn't. But Ice Parks, Amani.

[D]

I went on the live tour with y'. All.

[A]

You been on tour. You've been on the tour. These be on tour.

[C]

That's

[A]

back in the day. Back in the day.

[E]

I mean, back in the day.

[D]

Crazy, bro.

[A]

Way back in the day.

[E]

Joe if short said I got staged right up there. I was nervous. I wouldn't have said nothing about it.

[B]

I grab me.

[E]

I'm taking her. No, I'm not saying you in front

[F]

of a million people.

[E]

You freeze up. I. I ain't got no issue with that. My point was that ain't what she said. I'm just saying if I take her at a word and she said I would have been different for Chris then I'm saying, if you know you would be different for Chris and Usher wasn't your thing, then don't go up there and make Usher look bad. That's all I'm saying. She said, I froze up.

[F]

Cool.

[A]

She didn't make us. She don't have the power to make Usher look bad.

[E]

I'm sorry. That's not what I mean. She.

[F]

She didn't.

[E]

It wasn't the performance that he wanted. If. If at the moment, the performance doing this to get her out of here, he obviously wasn't happy.

[C]

But wasn't it? Now it's viral. It may be what everyone wants.

[A]

At the end of the day, everybody wins.

[C]

Everyone wins.

[A]

Everybody wins. Usher got a viral moment. Now future concert goers know what to expect from Usher. Said as well. If you didn't know if you were unfamiliar with the cherry and all of that, now you know she's viral. And before I have no look at ready.

[B]

Look at my boy.

[A]

Look at my boy. Fractured, yo.

[B]

And.

[A]

And in a lot of her response, she was talking to. And she said on the tmz, she was talking to the girls in her hometown.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because she said she didn't really care about what the rest of the Internet and the rest of the world was saying. Hey, you back home, y' all ain't. And y' all ain't cute or pretty. And ain't nobody bringing you Chattanooga hoes to a stage. So suck my dick. I'm all for the bad chicken in her town dissing the town bitches. I'm not mad at that. I don't think this is a Usher problem. Usher turned around, said, hey, I don't think the young lady wants to be on stage. Please escort her.

[E]

He handled it right. He handled it right.

[D]

He did that.

[E]

Joe. I was asking how old she was because I was thinking, like, is this that first moment where you realize you're too old for the young girl? That's why I was asking it. You know what I mean?

[D]

She looked younger.

[E]

Was she choosing her or.

[C]

She's 20 something.

[D]

She ain't look that young. I'm pretty sure she ain't look that young.

[E]

No, no, not like that. I'm not like young, young.

[D]

I'm not saying. I'm saying twenties.

[E]

I'm just saying this is the first

[A]

moment where the girl say something else. You in parks say something Else, Cuz, I caught y' all again. Caught you all again.

[D]

I put the gun away just to save you. I put the gun away.

[A]

You two play in the same dog park a lot. Anyway, I'm sorry about this.

[G]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, okay. Oh, you got something for me? The African right with the ass. I already know where I'm at. Go ahead, Mark. Go ahead.

[E]

I'm good. Continue.

[A]

No, please help.

[E]

No, but that's also that moment sometime when I heard it say that, I was just thinking like, yo, there's this moment where you realize you. You're not the young dude no more. You ain't the sex sy. That's all.

[B]

Watch me trying to clean it up in real time.

[A]

I'm following this one. Hey, I'm following this one behind y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Hey, this one, y' all hit this out the park. Go ahead.

[E]

I got nothing.

[A]

I'll send it to you.

[D]

Mark, I think the fact that Shorty was like, yo, if it was Chris, I'd have been with it. I think that's her prerogative.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Hell, yeah.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? I don't think she should be demonized for that.

[A]

Like, how do it feel to be the lesser, like, cousin?

[D]

What the.

[C]

You.

[A]

What you talking about?

[E]

When you go to family reunion, you're like number two. You're like the second famous. It's like my family. I'm like the second famous.

[A]

Like the cousin with no tats.

[D]

I don't go to family reunions. One and then number two. I don't know that. What are you talking about? And my family members that know us both, I'm sure they love us both.

[B]

It's family.

[A]

That's peace then. That's peace. I don't have nothing else. You think that's it?

[D]

I just wanted to know. Hey, man, in the future, y' all could just tell the girl who y' all bringing them up for, Y' all can prevent that.

[A]

Honestly, that's all.

[C]

That's it.

[A]

It's real simple.

[D]

Y' all going bring you on stage for Usher. You with that word.

[A]

Yeah. Usher's disrespectful, too.

[C]

How so?

[D]

How?

[A]

Because Usher's from the era, man. He know what the show. He know when it's a show, what's going. Listen, in Vegas, you see, he did it the G, the old school G way. When I went to the Vegas show. Hey, Joe, you mind if I take your lady spinning around? All right, go ahead, Spin around. That's it, though. Yeah. He had no cherries.

[E]

Then I ran from that cool in Brooklyn.

[A]

That's the end to that. Thank you, Usher, for recognizing us. Great show. You're a great showman. We appreciate that. Then we wouldn't catch him at the Barclays. I came here and told y'. All, yeah, the seen. Seen that game came my side just gyrating his dick around, staring, staring like, yo, please go. Yo, why. Why are we here? Know what you doing when you scour that crowd, yo, and the lights is bright from the stage, so if could see. See if see something nice, something fine is gonna pop up. Yo, and they be wearing fine to the show, dog. That's why I'm not going there. Chris Brown watch the show. I'm sending my girl up with Nat and Rachel with somebody. I'm not going to that.

[D]

Oh, no. We being there.

[E]

Y' all let y' all girls hit the.

[A]

That's an argument waiting to happen.

[G]

No.

[E]

Any of y'?

[F]

All?

[C]

No.

[A]

What did you say, Mark?

[E]

Did any of y' all let your ladies go to the stage?

[A]

Mark always take it there.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You let your lady go to the stage?

[E]

No.

[D]

Oh, okay. Cause you ask these questions, we want you to answer them.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

I said no before. I said I. I didn't sit front row with the Usher show because I didn't want him going. Coming near the Sherry's. I said, like, eighth row.

[A]

You didn't sit front row at that other show for the same reason. It was that other show we went to Johnny Gill and them. Bobby Brown was singing to your wife.

[E]

What the.

[A]

He wasn't. Yes, he was one of them shows we went to.

[E]

I'm not talking Bobby Brown in 2026, Mark.

[A]

No way. I ain't letting you do that.

[E]

Stop talking about around 2026. Now, we was at the Jodecy show. We was ducking Mr. Dalvin.

[A]

In 2026.

[E]

Yes, in 2027 and 2028, Dalvin is on the list. That's what I'm saying, D. Yeah,

[A]

Dalvin. One of you was glad he just disappeared. Go. Go away. Go to a dark matter. Dalvin and them. Oh, yeah.

[E]

And when we go to the. The Wu show. Can't go in there.

[G]

Meth.

[E]

He. When pictures come out of him and his wife celebrating, I send it right to my wife.

[A]

We love that. We love that. We love when that happen.

[E]

I send the pictures there every time. That's why you in the gym. Oh,

[B]

is nuts.

[C]

I got it.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, listen, shout out to chat. Nuga Bay. I don't think you did anything particularly wrong. I don't think Usher did anything wrong in this, but super entertaining. Boy, the content streets have fed us this week.

[C]

They really have. They have.

[A]

They really fed us this week. Anything else in music that we need to get to?

[D]

We a cover. Summer Jam.

[C]

Yeah. If you want us to Summer Jam,

[D]

we can rock out. That's blasphemous.

[A]

What the.

[D]

We cover some of.

[C]

No, it's not.

[A]

Only two people were there.

[D]

Ice, were there.

[A]

Parks were there. I'm muting up.

[D]

Was there.

[A]

Oh, Flip was there. My bad. I ain't mean to play with your name, Big Dog.

[C]

Summer J is not.

[A]

You be everywhere backstage. That's my fault. You was back there with your JBP chain.

[B]

Nah. Never. Never show. Never flipping it. That's Queen.

[A]

That's a mistake then.

[B]

Period.

[A]

I made a mistake.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Is this the first.

[C]

The first Friday they did.

[D]

Yeah. That I know of.

[C]

They should never do that again.

[E]

I see.

[D]

I took that. The venue change, the Friday. I said, okay, we might have got a better deal doing it on Friday,

[C]

of course, but they should never do that again.

[D]

Combined everything to one stage.

[C]

And they should never hire Zeus to be the primary source of income.

[D]

Number one promoter was probably.

[C]

There was like 40 minutes of baddies content up there. It was the worst I've ever seen in my entire life.

[D]

We jumping around.

[C]

I know. But this is a terrible show.

[D]

So I have notes. First thing. Because I. I get there first. I go get park serving. We walk in together, we go through the back, whatever, get through security. Then there's a second set of security.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And then there's a special security there.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

The back. The true backstage.

[A]

Real backstage security.

[D]

Suited up. Red bow ties.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I saw them.

[A]

Sensei jai and all that.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Which I have a nice tie in later, but carry on.

[D]

So it was like, pun intended. We were like, oh, this is about to be different back here now. Because they wasn't playing.

[C]

Not at all.

[D]

They don't give a who. Yo, yo, Green band. You're not coming back here. Entourage, I don't care. Artists, I don't care. So there was a it. So we was cool. So we get up to the suite and we like, is it me? Well, first off, I told them, is it me? There's no lines outside.

[C]

This was empty, dog. This was.

[D]

And we got there late.

[E]

What time did y' all get there?

[C]

Probably 7:45 by the time we actually got there.

[D]

Yeah, we went straight from the pod. So we got there. Dumb. I'm like, wow, this feels weird for Summer Jam. Yeah, we get. Get up there. So they. They, you know, flex his DJing and they do a couple things. Cut the lights on. And I was like, oh, y' all need to cut them back out.

[C]

Yeah, I'm talking.

[D]

Don't cut them lights no more.

[A]

It.

[D]

Yeah, it might have been 40.

[E]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they're posting Almost sold out. Almost sold out. So we were like, oh, yeah, y'. All. Y' all playing. Y' all are playing. And I think we caught Conway.

[C]

Yeah, we caught the end of Conway. Missed Rock and Special on stage.

[D]

All his people.

[C]

And then we had to sit through an hour and a half of Drill and Baddies Records, which is Natalie Nun.

[A]

Big Natalie shout out to put some respect on Natalie.

[C]

I'm not mad them for doing what they.

[A]

Let's go, Natalie. Hey, our beef is squashed now.

[D]

They did it though. I got to say. Like, they had a Zeus stepping repeat in the back. They had one of the Baddies girls back there with the mic.

[A]

What pose you hit him with?

[D]

I didn't hit any pose when you.

[A]

When you hit. When you hit any polls.

[C]

But Zeus is your though.

[D]

I thought this was like nor it was I. We haven't watched like the last two seasons of none of them shows.

[A]

Oh, y slipping.

[D]

I fell off. Love island came up.

[C]

That's true. So I, you know, I was like, this is. This is all the way bad. But then Natalie was like, I'm going to this. I'm going to do my. My big hit.

[A]

Let's do it.

[C]

And then she did it. And the whole crowd was saying this. I'm like, I'm just at the wrong. I shouldn't be here.

[A]

Yeah. They knew all that.

[D]

Baddies probably had at least early on the biggest crowd pop of the night.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Finally Karisha comes out and saves the day for me. Karisha was the. The best performer, the best rapper that I had seen up there outside of Conway because he was earlier.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

But like on the main 8 o' clock, once Karisha was there, I was like, oh, thank God.

[E]

She took it down.

[C]

She did really well. She did really well.

[D]

I was wondering what record she's performing she doing. You know, you trying to stay away from city girls. She did all the slaps.

[B]

The.

[C]

The.

[D]

She's all right. Let's get to the song of the Some of y' all had the Goyard bags on the stage and dances each grab the bag start they throwing money

[C]

in the Brought Fat Joe out boosting

[D]

his Brought Lola Brook Lola Brook too Shout out to Lola Brook Lola Brook

[A]

Been at the last ten ten summer

[D]

jams hey, get out there. I'm not mad, not mad at all. But like, it was a bunch of back and forth.

[C]

They would go from artists that we know, G herbo whatever, to Natalie, none of them. And then Karisha to whoever the next baddies group was.

[D]

It was like that.

[A]

It was.

[D]

This is a Zeus production. I thought that was streaming on Zeus.

[C]

Even on the screens, it was just Zeus low. Like if you took a picture of the. The Jumbotron, it was Zeus.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

So like it was. Was heavily Zeus. It was Zeus summer jam.

[D]

So. So me and Parks have been killing this.

[A]

Probably on the stage. I mean, probably Zeus summer jam on the stage. That's when I seen Surf and Fetty and Albial back.

[C]

That's when.

[A]

So I said, oh, okay, I understand what's going on back there.

[C]

Once they came up, we went up to the stage and this is where back to the. The bow ties. This almost got me in trouble because the next Zeus group is a group of young men with bow ties. They're doing like some Ice Spice 4 on the. The floor. Not very entertained by that. And REM standing next to me and she goes, oh my God, it's summertime. How could you be wearing a bow tie?

[G]

I'm like,

[A]

has anybody seen R.E.M.

[D]

has anybody seen.

[A]

Has anybody ever say that again, Brother Parks? No, brother Parks. No, the funny REM Is from Patterson. No. So they out there.

[D]

The other thing, the other thing I noticed, yo, they. I don't know if it's because the show started late or the.

[C]

The.

[D]

Because it was after 8 o' clock and Conway was still on stage.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So they was cutting folks sets.

[C]

Like, bro, Fuddy didn't do Trap Queen.

[D]

Bro, Zenni Will didn't get to do twerking with her friends.

[A]

Wait, why?

[D]

Because they cut him. He was in the crowd performing. That's what you were talking about when it came out, with the suit on and shit. He's going through his run. And you know Zetty will got records. You know the record.

[A]

I would have rioted in there, bro.

[D]

He's in the crowd, he's like. And I'm talking about in the 100 section. He did most of his set in the crowd rapping with a spotlight on him. And he, yo, the girls jumping up on the chair, twerking. He's smacking ass, all that. Then light just went out on him. His mic went out. He like, yo, no, you lying in

[A]

the middle of him performing Pay to pay the extra. Yo, they had or somebody else said, got to get cut Short twerking with a friend's got to come on in New Jersey.

[D]

Fetty didn't get to do like you said.

[A]

Trap Queen has to come on in New Jersey. At least.

[D]

At least two joints.

[C]

Yeah, he. He did three of his own, but he brought surf.

[A]

I brought Alba out.

[D]

Brought surf. I brought her luck out. And that was just a great moment.

[C]

The baby had a good set, too. The baby had a good set.

[D]

I missed his set.

[E]

I was.

[D]

I didn't hear.

[A]

The baby kills every time he's at Summer Jam.

[C]

He's Great performance.

[A]

He does.

[C]

But we left after Fetty. So you're gonna take it from there.

[D]

Yeah, they left after Fetty.

[C]

I had enough then. Yeah.

[E]

And you don't leave shows early like that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Mariah the scientist went out. Beautiful girl.

[A]

And they.

[D]

The girls in there hung on every word, but I think she only did like two songs, and she was right before Max and French came out.

[A]

How many songs did you want to do?

[E]

I'm just.

[A]

Somebody's got it. Somebody has to take the shit.

[D]

Well, they might have started telling them, yo, you can only do this. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you, they were.

[A]

As long as you do that one, everybody's all right. I got that blue.

[C]

She did.

[D]

She did.

[A]

As long as that happened, we could all sing along. Like karaoke.

[D]

She can go angelic with some on. Yeah, like she. She. She did that.

[A]

Did she move her hands this time or did she look shell shocked? She just. She be on stage looking like Thug is right there.

[C]

She be up there.

[A]

I got that blue spike. Yo, Thug, let this lady perform a song. You stupid, but funny.

[D]

So then Max and French come out,

[A]

and I wish these two take a nap.

[D]

They might have had 200 on St.

[A]

When do they sleep?

[B]

They don't.

[D]

They don't. They don't sleep. They don't. They just run for 15 years.

[B]

Shout out to Max.

[D]

And French brought Remy out. She did. She did a couple joints. And then they bought you a man out. Oh, then they bought your man out.

[A]

Who flips who flip me in?

[B]

No, your man, man.

[D]

Phoenix. Phoenix.

[A]

Shout out to Surf. I see my guy come out, talk about it.

[D]

Phoenix flexing.

[A]

Oh, you talking about, dude, that's not my man.

[D]

That's your man.

[A]

That ain't my man.

[D]

That's your man.

[A]

I don't with that.

[D]

Street said, that's your man.

[A]

I don't with homeboy at all. I'm talking with street said, and I don't know him. He could Be a great guy. I don't know. He ain't an artist, though.

[D]

They brought him out and was like, yo, yo, yo, he gonna do the song. That's even crazy to me.

[A]

You lose me. That's where you lose me.

[D]

They keep saying the song.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And he come out and he's performing that record. I didn't know up until that moment, this is the other dude from Shoreline Mafia, which is a West coast rap group.

[C]

I didn't know that either.

[D]

I had no clue.

[C]

Oh, no shit.

[D]

Cause you always see ogz. So I'm like, wait, oh, this was definitely an AI song. Now that you're. You don't even rap like this. Like I've heard. I know records with you on it. This ain't you. This is an AI record that caught.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

And you're trying to perform with Shoreline

[A]

Mafia to say I'm.

[D]

I'm speaking to it. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Who's Shoreline Mafia?

[D]

They were group from the West Coast. Yeah.

[A]

You've heard this guy rap before?

[D]

I've heard them. Well, I played Asleep for Hollywood off of YG's last album when we were doing Sleepers featuring them.

[A]

That's what ended the Sleepers. I don't remember that song.

[D]

No, no, no.

[A]

They just did the whole. The last sleeper to be played of this motherfucker. Recipes to sleepers for that day. Recipe sleepers.

[D]

But it fucked me up. Cause I'm like, wait, that's dude.

[A]

This whole time, he could go away.

[D]

Oh, no. So you tried something else and it worked. Worked. And now you just doing that. You became like a character of it. But it definitely confirmed that that's an AI record for me.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

A thousand percent.

[C]

Did he perform it? Like, could you hear him? Or was it just.

[G]

Oh, no.

[D]

I was. I put the video in a group chat.

[C]

I did watch it.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I was like.

[E]

I was like, oh, no, I gotta

[B]

record this for the group chat.

[D]

He's actually recording this. But. But overall, I mean, we were starting off killing the show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They should not do it much better.

[D]

Towards the. The late. The second half, towards the end of the show, it was packed. No, I'm just saying everybody in there had a good time. I came to see it was packed. I know we talked about the light crowd. Maybe that was a Friday thing.

[C]

It was Friday in New York.

[D]

You can't Friday after work.

[A]

Did people drive there? How many people look like they trained it?

[D]

N. A lot of drove there. All in parking lot. All right, good. Parking lots.

[B]

Was full, though. It was. It was. Was. It was just a. It was just crazy.

[D]

Someone got flipped running around, doing his thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Just shout out. Shout out to Summer J. I mean, it was just. It was a lot, man. We ran into the Nation of Islam behind. You know, they said they were fans and stuff like that. I saw Freeze chopping up with them. Shout out to them.

[D]

He's having a blast over there.

[B]

They said they appreciate the love we show them.

[D]

Well, Freezes, I knew it.

[B]

They were cool. But also, Mia Bell. Shout out to Mia Bell. She pressed Freeze. She did. She's like, yo, you know, I heard y' all on the show. When y' all saw my mero and me being there. You said, the girl. Whoever the girl is up there. And Flip corrected y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

But I saw Freeze.

[A]

I didn't mean no disrespect. I was just talking with who she was.

[B]

She know that.

[A]

She wasn't trying to be funny.

[D]

She didn't mean it that way.

[B]

She didn't mean it at all. She was like. And she was with Freeze. And then this is the intro. I see it. Next thing, I see a video with Freeze next to her dancing to some. I'm like, yo, what's Freeze? Trying to get a job. Trying to get another job.

[A]

Wrecked, huh? What?

[D]

No.

[A]

All right.

[B]

You left.

[A]

You didn't.

[F]

All right.

[A]

It was cool. That's why I asked him.

[B]

He was there. Freeze was next. I watched it on the Stories. Freeze was next to a dance down in the car.

[D]

He said, was he a wreck?

[A]

Freeze got hard.

[D]

No, Freeze did.

[B]

Shout to M. Shout out to M.

[D]

Shout out to Cass. Shout out to Mel. Shout out to the whole crew over there.

[A]

Why is it funny to get hard? I've been wasting Dick.

[C]

Get Hardy. Summer Jam is crazy.

[A]

Dick was going right the way.

[B]

And I cracked a joke with the Nation. I said, yo, if you seen brother Freeze in front of them, they say,

[A]

freeze, don't wear his bow tie. Try to throw off. Yo, that's what it is.

[C]

That's what it is. You should wear the bow tie.

[D]

I'm not with Freeze.

[A]

Throwing his bow tie and his gold jacket. Boy, today's math is being spoken.

[B]

And also, it was good to see

[A]

Surf my first know.

[B]

I mean, give him a hug. I love Surf, man. It was, you know.

[D]

I know he. I didn't even know he was there.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

He just.

[D]

Somebody tapped me. I turned around, like, oh, man. And see him come out on. On stage in New get that Love from the crowd. That was great.

[C]

They Got to move that back to a weekend.

[D]

Yeah, they have to.

[C]

They have to.

[D]

They have to.

[B]

Hey, I'm still stuck, man. Shout out to French, man. French asked me how I got in this room and like that.

[A]

I ain't like that.

[B]

That's my man. But how you got here? Who let you in here?

[A]

But valid. Cause you don't never have credentials to where you be at.

[B]

Jbp. Nah, JBP

[D]

was right there.

[B]

I never. That's not happening.

[A]

He made the call.

[B]

Never. No, but. But French said, though. Is that flip? You know, we could do content, but I'm not doing all that crazy where you grab shirts like French. You. I haven't grabbed the shirt in about five years. I had to tell that that you and I know you see the content that we own on the podcast. Cut that out. But it be the jokes.

[A]

You elevated you did. I can't say nothing.

[B]

You said what?

[A]

I said you elevated. You did. I can't say nothing wrong.

[D]

I told you that. I told you that. When he was talking about, yo, we got over there. Yo, Queen Flip gonna come by. I say, yo, I'm not. Nah cool, cuz. He come in here on this.

[B]

That's back in the days.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's what thought about. I'm just saying that was.

[B]

It was just funny. I just found it funny.

[A]

My dad was on some.

[E]

Go ahead.

[B]

He said, boop bop thr me.

[A]

Oh, that was our Summer Jam review.

[B]

Go back to MetLife.

[A]

We go back to MeTL.

[B]

They got to go back to MetLife Stadium.

[D]

Met who stadium?

[E]

They didn't fill the arena. Am I missing something?

[C]

It was filled by that.

[E]

It was filled by.

[D]

They can stay there, but just have it on. He's got to coordinate a little bit better.

[B]

But they filled out MetLife when it was there, wasn't it years ago.

[E]

Oh, dope.

[B]

So don't act like they a fill it out then.

[E]

That used to be packed, but I mean,

[D]

different company.

[A]

Yeah, it's different. That's a different relationship they had.

[C]

Different music business.

[A]

Different landscape. Different music business. A lot was different back then.

[B]

It's different.

[A]

It's different politics involved.

[C]

You're not going to get the headliners anymore Summer Jam that you could back in the day.

[E]

Right?

[C]

They don't give a about that.

[A]

I know y' all was speaking about Summer Jam said, oh, let me take that out.

[E]

Y' all was talking about Zetty Will.

[B]

What up?

[A]

Y' all was talking about Remy popping out. Shout out to my sister. Remy and I shouldn't do this at all but I saw Remy on Angie Martinez.

[B]

I don't do it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

So I just want to play this real quick. Plug in my celebrity crush to is cute Skepta. It's the celebrity crush.

[G]

Have you met him?

[A]

Now it's weird, but now it's just weird. So if you met him now I

[E]

gotta act like I like him now,

[A]

you know, unsuperable right now for, like, the past.

[C]

I don't know how long.

[A]

They all keep trying to, like, play matchmaker. It's the creepiest, most gross thing ever. Wait, are you single now?

[E]

Is that what's happening?

[F]

I'm.

[E]

I'm single.

[A]

Single. That's why everybody's trying to set you up.

[B]

Gifta would be cute.

[D]

I'm crying.

[B]

I'm just saying that would be cute, right?

[A]

I don't date image wise.

[F]

I was in the same situation almost 20 years.

[A]

Was it 20?

[C]

Holy.

[A]

You even know how to date? No, it's terrible. Have you tried?

[B]

No,

[A]

That's all I got. Oh, okay. I just wanted to hit the round of applause. That's corny to do it. But I. I mean, it is how I feel.

[B]

Honestly.

[A]

Curved.

[B]

She put the nigga on the back.

[A]

Oh, my.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

She didn't.

[A]

And claim the God. Yo, I've been waiting day for at least three. Three years. I know it's corny. And I ain't above on the Internet.

[G]

Call me corny.

[A]

I don't care. I could not be happier about it. It's up. It is up.

[B]

Why though

[E]

worthy don't stop.

[A]

Don't please.

[D]

Don't put words on mask.

[A]

So a nigga could take something personal it wasn't and make it a thing. It ain't about him being worthy or not. Love knows no bound. Yeah. So that's who you love. That's who you love. I just didn't love it. I. I didn't love it. The matching Eagles jerseys. I didn't love it. Every battle this up there, I got Remy Ma. It looked like they was in it for two different things. And when you coming out of a serious relationship, whatever that rebound relationship is, when you go do it, I just back up a little bit because everybody should get a rebound relationship. And that's what it looked like. I'm not saying that's what it was.

[C]

Got it.

[A]

I'm saying that's what it looked like. Like, so for her to say I'm single, and my friends is trying to. To hook me up with Skepta, it says, all right, my sister. All right, man, stop playing with My sis, man, we bake, we bike, we did the rebound. Yeah. I mean, we backing out. That's.

[F]

That's.

[D]

That's.

[A]

That's where we need to play at. That's where we need to play. And that's none of my business Now I'm on some honey bun again. But. But I. I was happy about it. I was. That's all I got. I love you, R. I hope to see you at my birthday dinner. See, that's the thing, too.

[C]

Yeah, it's tricky.

[A]

I want to see REM at my birthday dinner. I wasn't sure I want. Moving on. Take us to something else, nigga. Take us to something else before I get myself in trouble. Mark, not to make this all the way serious, but have you changed your tune on there being no foul play in the no Wells case?

[E]

You keep asking. I never said that.

[B]

You did.

[E]

No, I didn't. What I said was, when initially it was reported, I said, we shouldn't. This is when it first happened. I said, I'm thinking from a parent perspective. I said, I didn't feel comfortable reporting on all the speculation that was happening because we didn't have enough information.

[A]

That would be irresponsible of you. Yes, I'm irresponsible.

[E]

And I don't want the parents to have to hear all these crazy things that may or may not be true.

[B]

He said.

[E]

Wait, hold on, let me finish.

[B]

But you're lying. I asked you a question. Do you think it was foul play? You said, no, I don't think it was foul play. You said.

[F]

I did not.

[B]

You said it.

[C]

You did.

[E]

I said.

[F]

You said.

[D]

But I don't think that there was nothing that's showing it right now.

[E]

Yeah, that's not the same thing. Saying, I don't play. You hear the difference?

[D]

I completely understood what he was saying. Just. Just because this group of kids went out, this one didn't come back. They did. That's all we had at the moment. That was not enough.

[E]

That's not evidence of foul play.

[D]

That's what Mark was saying.

[E]

Yeah. And I said, like, let's keep looking.

[D]

That's what all he was saying.

[E]

And then the very next episode, you weren't here. Cause you worked half time. Then the very next episode, I get

[B]

a lot of money.

[E]

I know, I know, man. Joe's good to you. I said, the very next episode, I said, because you asked me the same question then. I said, yeah, now there's a lot more evidence. And I specifically put.

[A]

Oh, I asked you that before.

[E]

Yes, that's why? This is a bizarre conversation to me. Oh, Napoleon.

[A]

I didn't remember that.

[E]

The next conversation, I wasn't trying to. Yeah, I know. And I pointed to the parents response. I pointed to the judge, mine being the. And I said her response seemed a little too scripted. And we were a little suspicious. You were back by this time. And I talked about some other things with the cell phone. It didn't add up to me. But the idea that just cause you go missing and there's some white people there to me isn't enough to say, well, let's start saying these awful things happened to the boy because we didn't know yet. But I said, let's keep digging. And once the parents said, let's dig, then I'm like, I'm all aboard with it. And I was also. Now we see, you know, there's some questions around the autopsy. There's some questions around this, the throat missing. I've been reporting on this every day on Night School.

[A]

The leaked audio.

[E]

The audio.

[D]

The audio is crazy.

[E]

There's so much stuff to raise flags that I'm suspicious. I still don't know the answer, but I'm suspicious. If I just had to put my money somewhere, I'd say something happened that we. Something happened different than what was reported.

[D]

1000%.

[E]

I have no doubt about that now. But when something jumps out, I just don't like the Internet jumping. I think like a pack. That's all. Which is. That's all.

[B]

Yeah, the audio sound crazy. So what happened was, you know, they called to have their boat towed.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, usually when the call picks up, they didn't realize that the AI was recording them before the person came on the phone. So they were being recorded before the person. Actually, the operator came on the phone and what you heard was, is he dead? Yeah, he's dead and he's dead. Nolan, you heard that?

[E]

And.

[B]

And then the lady came on the phone. He's like, everybody shut the fuck up. And it's disgusting.

[D]

No, it's a bunch of sentences. It wasn't just one sentence.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm just paraphrasing.

[D]

It was a little dialogue, like seven, eight different lines. And they were saying, no, he's dead. Dead. Like, yo confirmed it and was like, yo, what are we gonna do? I think one of the sentences, I don't wanna misquote anybody, was, yo, can

[E]

we cover it up?

[D]

Or can we get like.

[B]

Here's the thing for me, though, and. And I talked about this. The deeper thing is that I said, 87 to 8 kids, actually, white kids are there to keep a secret or trying to keep a secret of what happened to this black kid, if you understand what I'm saying. Like, that shit is way deeper. If you look into it in the whole history of Mississippi, that shit, it just is still going on to this day. Usually you have a situation and somebody cracks. Yo, that's what happened. These niggas is keeping the stuff. I don't know what type of shit they into over there.

[D]

My mother's a judge. We got. We hire up. I'm being basically. Or I can't say definitely, I'm allegedly being walked through this by professionals that know where evidence goes, wherever, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we know that.

[B]

What I'm saying is that it's a bigger message that that shit is passed down to them. That behavior, the lack of compassion and all that shit. Usually in a situation, there's somebody that'll tell you, like, yo, this is what happened. Oh, my God, you know what I mean? The fact that all of them are silent and all of them are sticking to a story is deeper as far

[A]

as family and everything. When I heard that audio and the white boy was like, hey, we're members here. I was like, oh, yeah. Whoa. This gets de. This is a little deeper now because now it's this. It reminded me again of. I said this already. The Murdochs. The Murdochs in South Carolina. When you say we're all members here, that tell me everybody, parents, friends, associates, is high ranking into some shit. And now there's a little more to protect than whatever y' all just went out on a boat and did. Again, like Mark said, we'll wait for more details. Rest in peace to Noah Wells. But it all smells fishy. It looks.

[D]

And flip.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Just to your point where you saying everybody keeping a secret. Somebody usually say something. Well, when you being not saying they are. We don't know for sure, but we. Some. There's an assumption that they're being coached. They'll tell everybody, yo, this is cool. As long as y' all all stay on board. Nobody say nothing. Like, it ain't just one person.

[B]

This is like a movie to me, bro.

[D]

Watch. Your honor, the TV show.

[A]

Great show. This is literally. Listen, I got two more quick, sad news stories to get to, and we could move on. In our idiot of the day, we have Kamal Padlowski. Kamal Padlowski is the white man who got into an argument with somebody on the boat dock.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[A]

He pushed his man pushed him. He Fell, hit his head. So he was unconscious. And then Kamal Padlowski dragged his fucking unconscious body into the water and add insult to injury, kicked his other sneaker into the water and just walked off watching air bubbles come up. He's been convicted of second degree murder in the homicide of Melvin Montero Jimenez. So, yeah, I just wanted to say that.

[D]

And people, when the police came, he

[B]

said, I think I killed my. He was drunk. I think I killed my best friend.

[D]

God damn.

[A]

So they were friends.

[B]

It was friends.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

He punched him, knocked him out, fell on the dock. He dragged him and threw him in the water. Shit is on video.

[E]

It's a sick world.

[D]

It's sick, bro.

[E]

Ain't that much drunk in the world.

[A]

Word.

[D]

That should have sober you up quick.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

How drunk you was.

[E]

You're right.

[A]

Lastly, we have.

[D]

And he only got second degree. Yeah, well, yeah, he didn't intend. Yeah, I dragged him in the water and threw him in. Left him.

[E]

The drunk part might have something to do with. With that. I don't know. I'm just trying to guess. Because you're right. That seems.

[C]

That seems murdery.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

One.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Lastly, I didn't get the names on this one, and I'll try to find it as y' all talk, but the, the young white woman who did the Netflix trend going around who said, hey, I'm. I'm about to do a documentary about my soon to be ex husband, who I recently found out is a Sarah Duffy. Sarah Duffy. Rest in peace to Sarah Duffy. She did that on the Netflix. And the husband came over there in a murder suicide. And now they both. Not here.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

My God.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Extremely morbid.

[C]

And they had a kid.

[A]

Yeah, I. I think two kids. But I want to check on that. Rest in peace. That.

[B]

That's the one that started the trend of that.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

She participated in the trend.

[B]

She just.

[A]

So she sat down in the chair and said, let me tell you about my ex husband, who I just found out is a pedophile. What I want to ask you. How do I say this to y'?

[G]

All?

[C]

He was a basketball coach and he was of a woman's girls basketball team and was head of relations with one of the players. Allegedly. Or maybe not allegedly.

[A]

I'm certainly not victim blaming here, because that's sick. That is absolutely sick. I do want to implore people to think about the real life ramifications that participating in some of these trends can have. I'm seeing far too many stories about people participating in a trend and then somebody Spinning and murdering everybody.

[D]

Well, not. Not. Not just the trend part. Just the exposing part. Yeah, like, because you use a trend to expose, so it's. It's you putting. You don't know how people gonna react to being exposed.

[A]

Yeah, that shit is dangerous.

[D]

It's very, very dangerous.

[A]

It's. It's dangerous. That's all. That's all I'll say about it.

[D]

Well, speaking of exposing, I see this wnba.

[B]

No.

[D]

Oh, man. What you do? So. Oh, sorry. I went four for four prospects with W. Oh, I'm sorry. But so player. Let me get a name right? I don't want to say get a name. I got it.

[A]

I got it up with the W.

[D]

Keep on the Chicago.

[A]

They be riding on.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. And they deep, so. Chicago Scotch. Her name is Dijonay Carrington. She put a post up and said since. Want to be funny today? I'm going to be hilarious. Anytime a girl writes that.

[A]

You're done. Yeah, you're done. It's on.

[C]

The beans are spilled.

[D]

Nah, nigga, it's on fire.

[A]

Yeah, they not clear, yo. When they. They not trying to be hilarious, dog.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, y' all want to be funny?

[D]

I'm be hilarious.

[A]

Not at all.

[D]

When you hear that run, run. She says yes. Melissa. Which is her ex girlfriend, Aces forward Nissa Smith.

[A]

Few of them on that. Aces

[D]

cheated on me with Deja Kelly and Aaliyah NY ++ many more. Yeah, I did the same thing. The exact same thing.

[A]

There's a couple hitters on them rookies.

[D]

Boy.

[A]

Them rookies. And yeah.

[D]

Back to outing.

[A]

And how do y' all feel about outing?

[D]

I hate outing. That's disgusting.

[E]

Nope, nope, nope. No outing.

[A]

No, I mean reading it like. Like when you see it.

[D]

I don't like it.

[A]

I'mma read it.

[D]

I ain't a fan.

[C]

And none of that.

[A]

You too mature of a podcast, though. No, you too mature.

[D]

Yo, out.

[A]

You don't like reading a good story

[C]

now? Now all of a sudden he likes it. No, I don't like.

[A]

You wouldn't even know who that was

[C]

if it wasn't for the outing.

[D]

Yeah, I don't like the outing part. I just think. I think. I think it's classy. Classless.

[E]

I think it's tacky and it's harmful, too.

[D]

Yeah. But people, they hurt. They trying to harm.

[B]

So she exposed her girlfriend, basically her ex.

[A]

Ex girlfriend.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

And said she was running through him out there.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Ex got good taste.

[A]

I'm about to say. I just think sometimes it has the reverse effect. Like you could get your. You could get your ex hot out here.

[D]

Super hot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's some people that don't give a fuck you got cheese on. But the ex is sounding like it's some. You know what I mean? That's horrible. It's horrible.

[C]

It's horrible.

[A]

It's absolutely horrible. And during All Star Weekend. Yeah, during All Star Weekend, this comes out. Come on. What a distraction.

[B]

Yeah, right?

[A]

What a distraction.

[C]

How could you expect her to be her best.

[A]

Do we want to.

[C]

What? What?

[A]

What? Where are we at on time here?

[C]

2:15.

[A]

We're at 2 hours and 15 minutes. I ain't heard a peep about LeBron.

[C]

That's a good point.

[A]

I'll push the mic away and Ice and Mark can do. Look, Mark has this thing now where every pod. He's going to come in here and tell us how great the Sixers are.

[C]

The Sixers ball is still sitting there.

[D]

Yeah, of course it is.

[E]

It's the Sixers.

[D]

Why wouldn't it be?

[E]

We're America's team.

[A]

Well, it should be. All Knicks are at the ring makers right now. We.

[G]

We.

[A]

We in the diamond district designing. Designing a ring. So, I mean, have your ball. Go ahead.

[E]

The Sixes are America's team now.

[D]

Tell them.

[E]

They just announced. They just announced.

[A]

No, no, listen, listen.

[E]

First of all, we've always been American.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yo, look what we have to listen to. The Sixers have always been America.

[E]

We had the 250th anniversary of America. My America was started. Win 1776. We are the Philadelphia 76ers. And who did we get on the 25th? LeBron James.

[A]

Mark ain't even said the word America in 200.

[E]

That's a fact.

[D]

Who y' all get so George Washington's old ass?

[A]

What are you talking about?

[E]

They just announced that the. The Bucks 6 has got 34 nationally televised games.

[A]

46.

[E]

I thought it was 34. It's 46.

[A]

I read 46.

[D]

I thought it was 37. But we got. Don't matter.

[A]

Great podcast a hell of a lot.

[E]

But the point is, it's the maximum you can get under the contract, under the current TV contract, which means that they are all in on the Sixers being a team. That you gotta watch. That's a must.

[C]

Deal.

[D]

Must see tv, baby.

[E]

And we ain't gonna disappoint. I'm just telling you right now, we ain't gonna disappoint.

[D]

So give the poll. I mean, there was a pause.

[E]

Oh,

[D]

I'm finna ask you on that.

[A]

Hey, child, give the poll.

[D]

They ranked.

[E]

Oh, yes. Bleach Report and other outlets ranked the best rosters in the NBA from number 30 to number one.

[A]

I can't believe we have to.

[E]

And I want to congratulate the New York Knicks on having the third on

[A]

winning the championship last year.

[E]

We talk about this year now.

[A]

That was two months ago.

[E]

The season's over.

[D]

That was it.

[A]

Another season hadn't started the offseason. We ain't got our rings yet.

[E]

That's cool.

[B]

Yo, listen.

[D]

I was so surprised.

[A]

Breeze, you and Mark keep fuming this toward me. Pause. Right. But I don't have a beef with y'.

[G]

All.

[A]

I used to be there. You get excited about off season moves when you're trying to build a contender in a championship team. That ain't where we at. I don't know why Sixer fans keep looking at the Knicks. Y' all should be looking at the Celtics.

[E]

We always look at the Celtics.

[D]

We look past.

[A]

I keep hearing y' all bring up the. Don't bring up with jewelry.

[E]

Celtics got jewelry.

[A]

Don't bring up jewelry.

[E]

Celtics got jewelry.

[D]

But you can't bring up the Celtics.

[E]

But look the point.

[A]

But they got a reason to do that.

[D]

They can't bring up Pistons. Of course.

[E]

That's our long. That's our longtime rival.

[A]

Who can the Sixers bring up?

[E]

I tell you what we can do.

[A]

Mark going to come in here to work day talking about, oh, we got Dean Wade.

[E]

I know I said kcp. I said kcb. Don't even have kcp.

[B]

No, he was dead.

[D]

Dean Waden last week saying that, like this was just the.

[A]

The neutralizer.

[E]

What I said was you asked me who I. The Sixers have the best starting five in the league. According to.

[A]

No, they don't.

[E]

Let me finish the sentence.

[A]

Him.

[E]

According to a lot of experts. They do.

[A]

I agree with the experts and I agree with that weeks ago. What you say.

[E]

And I. And that's how good we are. We got him to put back on the Sixes jersey.

[A]

He hasn't done that yet.

[E]

He did.

[B]

You won't believe that.

[E]

What? That we had the best five.

[D]

And that's where me and you go.

[A]

That's where this just.

[E]

I think. I think this. I think the Sixes have an elite starting fight.

[A]

Magic in six. Word Magic in six. Don't say the Knicks.

[D]

Atlanta in six.

[E]

Maybe y'.

[G]

All.

[A]

I think so too.

[E]

Is told me earlier he didn't think the sixes to win 50 games. He said they're in the high 40s. I think that's Crazy. I think that's crazy.

[D]

I think your number wasn't far off. You said 53.

[E]

53 to 55 I think is reasonable. I think that's a mature. Cuz I. I've been accounting for injuries. Chemistry issues all do not account for injuries.

[D]

Oh, I cuz if you start accounting for injuries, MB gonna play 40 games and that's gonna leave LeBron and Dean Wade at y' all five.

[E]

How many? How many, how many?

[D]

Anthony Davis is on the way too.

[A]

They got Huck 40 from the Knicks. I like Huck Py as a third string center.

[D]

Joe. Third string center. Yo, who y'?

[F]

All?

[D]

Bigs this Nick said Bulma, I almost

[B]

jumped off the balcony.

[E]

So that's not what I said. But, but, but the, the Sixers la. No, what I said was that's our backup. What I said is every prediction I have for the Sixers is based on Embiid being healthy and playing 50 and healthy for me.

[A]

Okay. That's why we. All right. That's why it don't matter what he say.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh.

[E]

That's why it don't matter what the Sixers won. Just to be clear, the Sixers won last year with 45 games with. With Paul George missing a ton of games for injury and that suspension.

[A]

Paul George is our best player.

[E]

And Embiid missing all them games you just talked about. So if we won 45 last year without Embiid, and then you add JB and LeBron.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

JB and LeBron and a deeper bench and shooting. Anthony Simons is a shooter. KCP is a 3 and D guy.

[A]

I know he is.

[E]

I'm just saying we added talent. I think we're more than three games better than we were last year.

[D]

Listen, trust the experts. That's why they the experts.

[A]

Exactly.

[E]

And trust the process. Trust the process. 53 to 55 games. We're going, we're going to finish top three seed in the East. And I think we do. I think we. And I think we kill in the playoffs.

[D]

A top who?

[E]

A top three seed.

[D]

Gotcha.

[A]

First round exit. You don't believe.

[E]

You think the six of them have be a first round exit?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You want to bet on that?

[A]

Mark, do it.

[E]

Yes or no?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Okay. How much in the bet right now? The six will be your first exit.

[A]

Whatever you want to bet.

[E]

5,000.

[A]

Look at him. Look at him.

[E]

5,000.

[A]

Is that fair now take it back.

[E]

That's when you know, talking shit.

[A]

Back him down.

[E]

Back him down.

[A]

Back him down. No, I want to bet on my. On My team? Yeah. Mute your tight shirt up, boy. Yeah, you better look up to the sky. Mute up. I want to bet on my team. Do you have the Sixers beating the Knicks next season? We could bet five to ten grand on that.

[E]

Immediately beating them one right this second.

[B]

Beating them in. Beating them in one. I'm saying.

[A]

I'm sorry, you dropping regular season playoffs.

[E]

I'm asking about. No, cuz last time we bet on who had a better regular season record. I'm asking. We can do that too.

[A]

Regular season record and playoffs. We can bet both.

[E]

10.

[A]

10.

[E]

I wouldn't bet that. Cuz I'm not predicting that. I just say we're going to have

[A]

top three in the playoffs.

[E]

Then why when playoffs. Can we talk 5 and 10? We'll do that.

[A]

Anything you want to do. Please don't run, don't call out, don't go to Martha's Vineyard, don't go to your other content house.

[E]

Don't get. I ducked the bet from you.

[A]

No, you pay.

[E]

I don't even talk about paying. I'm talking about even making the bet. I bet on sixes every year against all odds. We ain't won a check. We ain't won 50 years. I still bet on them, Mark.

[A]

People that are brilliant in most areas gotta be stupid in some.

[E]

You just making my point. My point is I ain't ducking.

[A]

No, you're not ducking.

[E]

Then that's all we gotta say.

[A]

Pay it up. Pay it up. Chase the chase, my boy. Send that shit right through.

[E]

We'll see.

[A]

Y' all better not play the magic in round one. I'm telling you.

[D]

No, I'm about.

[A]

He gonna pay the.

[D]

They could get out the first round.

[A]

Gonna pay me. I ain't say I gotta see MB Be healthy. I ain't saying that.

[E]

I ain't saying win the first round without him B being healthy.

[A]

I think they got a bunch of players to do the same thing.

[D]

They all guards. And that's what I told them.

[A]

I don't

[C]

yet.

[D]

We not done.

[A]

Y' all want money?

[D]

Y' all got three, y' all don't have.

[A]

What do you mean not done?

[E]

Just watch.

[D]

Just watch.

[A]

Watch what?

[D]

Just keep watching.

[A]

You get kcp, and that is your team. There's no other maneuver and you're done. You can't buy salary cap. You're finished.

[D]

Yo, y' all got three max players, bro.

[E]

KCP wasn't supposed to fit. When you get. When you get LeBron James and a team that is supposed to be a winning team, you could Go get a whole bunch.

[D]

You go get a whole bunch of 40 year olds.

[A]

That happen.

[E]

And. But you get people off waivers, you can get size off waivers. You can get three and off waivers mid season, you can get people off waivers. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Don't. Just don't be surprised.

[A]

So what's going to happen when LeBron go to Jalen. Jalen Brown locker and say, yo, what's that you were saying about my kid again?

[D]

Nothing.

[A]

So not chemistry issues.

[E]

Whatever issues.

[A]

And Philly should know about chemistry issues. I keep letting that Eagle story that's been confirmed fly by. But we called it a few years ago. It's been confirmed. I think it was Chris Broussard or somebody. And you told me too.

[E]

I don't know nothing about A.J.

[A]

brown and Hassan.

[E]

Whatever issues they got that's been resolved before LeBron got here. That's what all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to say.

[D]

That's what took so long to get this done. We got to make sure we straight.

[E]

But what I did think was interesting is LeBron's not going to be living in Philly. You heard he's going to be commuting from New York.

[A]

Well, you've seen the Philly houses, right?

[D]

I don't give a. Where that live at.

[A]

Have you seen real houses?

[D]

With his tip off paws?

[A]

Yeah. Why was that a shock?

[E]

I just. It was a shock. I thought it was interesting.

[D]

Imagine LeBron in a row house.

[E]

That's all we got.

[A]

All we got is Bandos lebron.

[B]

No.

[D]

Everybody move to South Jersey.

[A]

Yeah. Get some big.

[E]

The main line. But he.

[A]

He'll be in New York.

[E]

He's going to be helicoptering in.

[A]

Yes.

[E]

Every day, they said. Which I think is. I think that's dope. I think that's fly.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[E]

But when I think about the helicopter fees and all that for a $4 million contract, he ain't gonna make no money.

[A]

He wanted to be a Nick so bad. You could. You could tell he wanted to be a nick.

[D]

LeBron ain't gonna be making money in New York.

[A]

That's why I enjoy. That's why I enjoy this position. Y' all in pause about being excited about your offseason and moves. I used to be there. Right. As a Knick fan today, it feels good to know that Giannis was begging to come to the Knicks. Begging.

[D]

Was he?

[A]

Y. Yeah.

[E]

He want. It was his first choice.

[A]

Begging to break up the chemistry. Well, Cat showed out, and then we won a chip. They even put the report out while the playoffs was going, saying, hey, the Bucks are waiting to see if the Knicks choke, to see if something can happen. So it feels good knowing Giannis wanted to be a Knick. Rich Paul said, hey, if the Knicks didn't win a chip, LeBron James would be a Knick for sure. That'd be the only team on the list. It feels. It's unfamiliar, but it feels good for the Knicks to say, hey, big dog, we good. We not star chasing no more.

[D]

I think that's dope.

[A]

We good. And to do that coming off of a championship. Yo, I'm talking championship talk. There's nothing for you to say in this.

[D]

I think that's superficial.

[A]

I'm talking about when your team wins a championship in your lifetime. Dr. J ain't there. Dr. J ain't there.

[E]

We won one in my life.

[A]

Moses Malone ain't there. Theo Ratliff. Who else y' all had?

[D]

Theo Rat.

[A]

Yeah. Eric Snow ain't walking through that door, buddy. It's over.

[E]

Any door.

[A]

I know. I'm just naming names. I know. I'm just naming the Sixers. Any who shout out to the Sixers, what else is important, Unimportant. Needs our attention. Don't need our attention.

[E]

Something by y'.

[F]

All.

[E]

Right, so. So there's been a in. In the educational. Educated Twitter. Educated black Twitter. There's been. Y' all know what I'm talking about. Oh, that's not.

[F]

This.

[E]

I'm saying. I'm not talking about the story you think I'm talking about. There's been an intense debate about this Talladega dress code. Have y' all seen this?

[A]

No.

[E]

This school is basically saying all the students.

[D]

I saw it.

[E]

Have to go. I know you saw it.

[A]

All the students.

[B]

Right?

[D]

That's him.

[E]

No durags, no bonnets.

[A]

He don't see nothing. How you doing?

[E]

He's on. He's on threads.

[D]

No do rags, no bonnets and no flip flops, I think. Okay.

[A]

To school.

[D]

To school.

[A]

And there's like, bonnets, flip flops, durags, do rags.

[E]

Yeah. And this is kind of a thing at HBCUs. A lot of time. Morgan State had one before in the business school. Other people have it where they. Where they had to wear a dress. You had to literally wear suits to come.

[A]

Is this school hbcu?

[E]

Yeah. Okay. So. And the idea. And I'm torn about it. You know what I mean? Cause I, as an educator, I'm like, yo, I don't Think, think you need. I don't need my students dressed up

[D]

to go to school.

[E]

I don't think you need that. But I also feel like going to school there is value to it to get preparing people for a world. And I feel like sometimes every time we tell black kids to dress up, there's a bunch of people who got good jobs and good money telling people that it's a bad idea and that we're just doing it to please white people. You know what I mean? And some people are. And I hear that that's not always true, but it's not always true. And so I struggle with like black folk have dignity and professionalism without white peace, you know what I mean? But I also don't want to worship a dress code and believe that you can dress your way out of poverty, dress your way out of racism, dress your way out of all that other shit. So it's a complicated argument. I know y' all people say I take both sides on it. If I had to take a position, I would say I'm against dress codes in school.

[D]

I am too.

[E]

But I understand, I don't want to demonstrate, demonize people who do it. So I was just like, if y', all, how do y' all feel about dress codes in school? Either for, for the kids or for, and this is college.

[D]

Oh, it goes farther.

[A]

Actually.

[D]

I'm torn. I'm torn because you could live on college campuses and have an 8 o' clock class and you've been studying till 2 in the morning and the last thing on your mind is what the fuck I got on so you could throw on some sweatpants and a whatever and haul ass across campus to be there on time. So I, I, I, but you know

[E]

they're gonna say that's when you got to go to work. At 9am we got to be to work.

[D]

No, that's not true. Because when typical person that works a 9 to 5 and they not up at 2 in the morning with a strenuous 18 credit schedule where they busting their ass to study. That's not always the case. Right. So I think that what about the I see both sides. I, I, I think that and this is the whole thing behind corporate sometimes or dress codes in clubs when niggas used to say, yo, when you got hard bottoms on, you're less inclined to get into some physical altercation. You less inclined cause you in a different mind frame.

[A]

You better not. Them boy is slippery.

[D]

I see both sides. I think that you are preparing your kids to carry themselves in A dignified manner. I don't necessarily know if the wave caps and the bonnets convey that. So I'm torn. I both sides. It's tough.

[A]

I'm muting up on this for obvious reasons, but I don't know nothing about none of this college stuff. But my question to y' all is, do y' all believe uniformity leads to uniformity? Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

[D]

No, no, no, I see. I don't think it's a uniform thing. I do. Because it's not a uniform.

[A]

They just saying, answer is yes, you do believe that. And you're saying that is a uniform, though.

[D]

No, it's not.

[C]

It's not.

[D]

Everything we all got on. A dress code is not a uniform. A uniform is. All of these people are wearing the same exact thing. Right. So the uniformity thing kind of takes away your individualism. So I don't necessarily stand in that, but I do understand. It's like when you go to the military, the military cuts your hair and you do all of that because I want y' all to operate as one. I don't want you to steal, hold on to who you are. Because now we teach you how to perform in a unit or collective. I think that a dress code is not uniformity, so I don't think it applies.

[E]

Okay, I agree with that. I think uniforms, though, or dress code still can limit your creativity.

[D]

I agree.

[E]

You know what I mean?

[A]

That's what I'm trying to say.

[E]

Yeah. And there's a kind of uniformity that comes with it. It's not uniform, but it's. It's still. It's. It's a certainly a certain kind of genre of dress that you could wear.

[A]

It's a mindset that you're preparing somebody, that you're conditioning somebody to have.

[D]

I mean, you trying to tell people the real world, though, like you said, every time this happens, there are people that come out with great paying jobs that'll say, hey, I got this great paying job without this. But that's a minority. That's not the overwhelming majority. So you kind of setting them up for failure a little bit. Because if you think, all right, we don't need this, we could go out any kind of way and everybody could go get a job up here, make all this kind of money. Well, no, everybody can't. It's going to be a little bit harder. Whereas there are companies that you'll make decent money at, but they'll have a dress code.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And you don't want to tell a kid all that you could do whatever you want to do and you're guaranteed to succeed, you kind of selling a false image there. You're giving them false hope.

[A]

So I don't.

[D]

I don't like that idea of. Nah. Yeah, everybody's saying this, but the outliers, the exception to the rule becomes the rule when people start talking about it.

[C]

I think it also. I've always. Obviously staying quiet for obvious reasons as well. I think it's also weird, though, at a college level where it's not. This is not high school. This is not some mandatory. I'm paying y'.

[G]

All.

[D]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[C]

Y' all not gonna tell me how to dress.

[D]

But y' all paying. But y' all to prepare in the club, too. But look, y' all are paying me for. To prepare me for the next step.

[C]

Right?

[B]

And they don't want.

[D]

So y' all not just giving me the education, y' all giving me the tools, everything I need to succeed at the next level.

[E]

I think that's part of that is

[D]

going to come with the physical appearance.

[C]

I went to state school, man.

[E]

But that's an interesting point, Parks, because I think state school is different. You know what I mean?

[B]

And.

[E]

And I've taught at state or state sponsored schools and all that stuff, and I would never expect a dress code. But the HBCU mission is different.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

And so if we say we're like family here and we're raising you in a certain kind of way, that's part of what you're paying for. And the same way, like, when you pay for. For, like, military school, you're paying for a certain. You're paying to somebody yell at you. And if I'm paying for public school or a regular private school, I'm not paying for somebody to yell at my kid. But if I. If I were into the military, which I'm not, I would want that, you know.

[C]

Oh, you're saying from the parents perspective.

[E]

Yes, yes, yes. And the kid. I'm saying you're buying into the program when you go to hbcu. And part of it is to say we're going to love you a certain way, we're going to discipline you a certain way, we're going to prepare you a certain way because.

[B]

Yeah, in some households, when you go in there, see your great. They ask you to take, no matter how old you are, to take your durag off or take your bottom, take your hat off. So it is a rule. I. I understand what they're Saying if they just talking about durags and bonnets and no flip flops, I can see that's not. That's not nothing too.

[D]

It's more than that. And to your point that you're paying, hey, most private schools that you. I'm talking about elementary uniforms or private schools, period.

[C]

But that's different because your parents are paying for it. As a college student. Some people's parents paid for their college. Obviously. Oftentimes they're not, though.

[D]

No, but you said I'm paying you to go here, so I wear what I want. Talking about to the school, I'm saying the same thing. The student, whether it be your parent paying for whoever you're paying to go to this school.

[C]

But that's very different because back to your point. If as the parent, I'm putting you in this school because I want you to be in the uniform and all this shit, if I'm an adult, which a college student is, I am paying for this. Unless you're paying, which.

[D]

Yeah, your mission point is different. Strong. Mark's mission point is strong. Like if, you know, if you go to Harvard, you're not only going for the education, you're going for a bunch of other things that Harvard represents and presents for sure. So if you walking around and you at Georgetown or if you at Howard or if you have Morgan State and you want this school to project certain shit and you got everybody walking around with bikini thongs on, they're legal. You can. You could wear a thong. That's not necessarily the message that we want to be sending at this institution.

[E]

I just love that when you said bikini thong, I'm out of the head. What up?

[A]

Mark, I really appreciate you bringing this HBCU uniform topic to the pod while you on absolute fire out there for smoking on that pad. I love you bringing us this topic.

[D]

That's peace.

[A]

And then to your platform, bringing us on that. That's sizzling, Smoking, piping. Mark was all, this boy is good.

[D]

I was trying to be.

[A]

Yes, you were, Mark. Let's do it. Give it to us, man. Yes, you were.

[C]

Nothing about the read in this email that you got to book or whatever. You were like, oh, this will be a healthy good.

[E]

Well, that's the wild thing, right? I saw this video come out of with Jamal Pastor, Jamal Bryant, talking about that situation with Sh and Brian and. And this dude. And I saw the Internet dude was working like 15 minutes. They had dudes LinkedIn up. They had his phone number, they had the email, his Gmail account. That was Used for the university, for the school.

[A]

Come on, dog.

[E]

It was upgrade he had on Yahoo. Before that.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[E]

And so I was like, I said to my student, gotta book him. Yeah. I said, gotta book him. In fairness, it was a Saturday night.

[C]

That's what he said.

[D]

Oh, this a layup?

[E]

It was a Saturday night.

[A]

My wife got him in the scope.

[E]

My wife had gone out, she had left me unsupervised. I had like a good hour. We'll get back to that. Yeah. I said, you know what, I could. Let's see if we can book him. And I was like, he ain't doing shit.

[D]

He ain't doing nothing.

[E]

I said, when are you free? He said, what you doing now?

[A]

See, I was like, oh, let's go.

[D]

He don't know.

[E]

He don't. That's the thing. And so I assume anybody who had the balls to make a university and give out degrees, I actually expected it to be like a joust, like a duel. Yeah, yeah. I thought I liked my chances, but I didn't think it would be like this.

[A]

Like that.

[G]

Yeah.

[E]

But then when he said, you know, give me five minutes to get settled and I opened up and he was sitting in front of a project or apartment building with a Gucci shirt on and waves. No, I mean you the university president. We just talked about uniforms and shit. And he clearly didn't go on it.

[D]

What was your first thought when you cut the camera on and saw him sitting there?

[A]

Sne d. That's what he said.

[E]

I was like, make sure this is monetized.

[A]

Sure.

[E]

Double shake monetization on YouTube. When I saw that, I was like, oh, this is about to go up.

[A]

Cuz Mark, I do do think Mark is a diabolical shady.

[F]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But there's no way that Mark could have known the gold that was about to come. No, that's what I'm saying. How could you have known that that

[E]

was like falling from the sky when this.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

And mind you, all that I dug. He emailed, emailed me the degree. He emailed me all that shit right before we started. So I'm reading it as I'm doing the interview. That's why it took me a second. But I was like, you giving me this shit. And then every question I asked him, I looked at the diploma and I saw two signatures on the left and the right and they look similar. I thought it was his wife. So I was just like, who's the vice president? I thought he was gonna say my wife when he said, it's Me.

[D]

Me.

[E]

What?

[A]

Nigga?

[E]

I didn't see that shit coming, nigga.

[D]

That's all you can say?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I couldn't believe what I was watching and I saw it at like 8 in the morning.

[B]

I watched that shit this morning.

[A]

N. I saw shit weird. I was tears, but it seemed like homeboy still, while he was actively in the blender, didn't know really, or didn't care.

[E]

That's the problem with narcissism sometimes. You know what I mean?

[B]

He was repeating.

[E]

You'd rather be in the spotlight jousting than out of it looking normal. So like, you don't care in that moment and you think you're winning when you, you know. Talking to him was like talking to my teenage daughter, you know, like. And I don't mean that with any disrespect, just teenagers. Oh, yeah. What I mean is, like, when you talk to teenagers, all you gotta do is ask them one more question and that next question always gives you the answer.

[G]

You really.

[A]

It's gonna come right out. That's gonna tell you exactly what you need to know.

[E]

Are there gonna be adults at the party? Yes. Are her parents gonna be there?

[A]

No.

[E]

Who are the adults? Well, 21.

[A]

Park your little ass.

[E]

Never. Yeah, exactly. Would the parents be there all night? Well, no, they're gonna. All you gotta do is ask one more question. You get everything you need to know if you know what to ask and everything. I asked him just one more question. We did a special degree for her. Well, how many degrees have you ever given out?

[A]

1. 1.

[E]

And then he says, in my defense, we've only been open since May. Thank you.

[B]

That shit was funny.

[E]

It was amazing.

[C]

I was like Marcus finding a low hanging fruit. Right? But I'm entertained.

[E]

But honestly, at the end of the day, I think that interview helped Cheyenne Bryant. Because if you get to the end of it, you realize she had nothing to do with. She had nothing to do with. She didn't ask him for a degree. And like you said, it's in her P.O. box right now. And he was. Because when I talked to him ahead of time, he made it seem like they had coordinated together. But again, you just ask one more question. That picture them together was when he was an extra on Love and Hip Hop. I believe. So. I mean, her team came out and said like, Mark's right. Like, we don't know him. So you can't blame her for that. That's not on her.

[C]

No, it's not.

[E]

Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. Like, just One more question. That's the lesson. The journalists out there just ask one more question. Just ask the extra question.

[A]

Oh my God, bro.

[E]

That was a mess. But I was entertained.

[A]

That was a mess. But I mean, I identify. I shouldn't be the distributor of degrees either. Cause it will be a lineup.

[E]

You'd be giving out degrees for yams.

[A]

People that would have some degrees.

[E]

This made a whole school.

[A]

That's crazy.

[D]

That is crazy.

[A]

So before Umar. Wow. His open. They giving out.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

It's a joke.

[D]

Wow.

[E]

Don't disrespect Umar. Like Umar is real. This dude has some fake.

[A]

Yeah, I love the. The way is. And Mark came in after the Umar school. They. I don't work at the school.

[G]

Shut out.

[E]

I will work to this day. As soon as school I'm going to work.

[D]

Dr. Umar invited you to come down and speak at a school or potentially give a class in audio visual, whatever. You wouldn't do it.

[A]

I would have to think about it. I have to talk to Ian.

[E]

You have to ask the white man.

[D]

Why you gotta talk to.

[E]

You have to ask the white.

[A]

Look at him.

[D]

Why you gotta talk to Ian?

[A]

I run all my fears through Ian.

[E]

I know the white man.

[D]

I thought you Ian worked for you.

[A]

He does.

[D]

So you'll make that.

[A]

That's part of it.

[D]

You make that fine.

[A]

You hi hire. You hire people that are knowledgeable. Would I come to a class at Umar school or speak kind of. See, man, y' all said y' all would work there. Like be the janitor.

[E]

I would volunteer there.

[D]

I would volunteer.

[E]

I would teach a class. I would teach. I would teach A language there. I would teach.

[A]

You know what's funny about these? I'm trying to make a joke, but I do believe them. They got good hearts. That good heart is overrated, man. Nah, I'm telling you who the would want that?

[C]

So why won't you go to the Jesuit School of Indiana Southwest and do a class?

[E]

As soon as they get a building, I'm there. As soon as they get a website, do it virtual. They ain't got a website.

[D]

Send a zoom link out.

[A]

You don't say Gmail.

[E]

That's true. Yo, he said he was. He was charging $75,000 for doctorates and that he had 250 students.

[C]

You got his contact stuff?

[A]

Word hold up.

[E]

I think he was lying.

[C]

But start to go fund me. Maybe he'll give me a discount.

[E]

Yo, but that's. That's not a bad hustle, Bulk.

[A]

What time? What?

[D]

And if I'm.

[A]

If I'M going too far. You 6pm what time did you stop being alone? Oh, all right.

[B]

Come on, man.

[A]

I just want to know. That's my last question.

[E]

She came. She came home in time to see the interview. Like she. She came home like a. It's a good question. Maybe like 11:30, 11:45. She came home.

[C]

Is she proud of you?

[B]

Stay at his business?

[E]

She was cracking up. She usually. We usually don't watch this stuff, but she just thought it was fun. She. You thought it was ridiculous and funny.

[C]

I'm surprised I didn't hear in the background.

[A]

No. That's the best interview I've seen in a long time. Shout out to Mark. That shit is absolutely crazy. Who's your next big.

[E]

I don't know, man.

[A]

Who you plotting on?

[E]

I'm not plotting nobody, but I'm working on some other. I want to do some investigative stuff. I want to be like the Pablo Torre of

[A]

black culture. Oh, I'm so glad. I think you got a bright future now. Or you got Mike Rupin, if you go talk to him about what tops may be up to. Like, is LeBron signing the tops now? No, LeBron sign Excalibur for 4 million a year. Going to Philadelphia of all places.

[E]

He wants a championship.

[D]

I wonder if Championship.

[A]

Is there some top stuff going on, you think?

[D]

No, no, no. He want to bring a championship.

[A]

Like, you think his fanatics deal has changed any?

[D]

Yeah, or maybe LeBron.

[A]

That should be your first case. You craft.

[E]

No, no, first. That's the first, man.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Look at y'.

[C]

All.

[E]

Yo, you see they still got Kawhi him. They can't complete that trade because of Pablo Torres.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[E]

Yo, shout out to Pablo.

[A]

Shout out to Pablo don't let Ish catch you in the street. It's going. Shout out to Pablo. But watch it back. When you in Brooklyn, what do you do this?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Ish don't like that.

[E]

He just cooks is grits, man.

[A]

What?

[F]

He.

[E]

He burns them up.

[B]

I know what you meant, but. But nigga, when.

[E]

No, no, he's upset. Ish doesn't like how he's doing. Why? Leonard investigation.

[B]

Oh, God.

[E]

He thinks he's basically a rat bastard.

[D]

He's a rat. He called him a rat bastard.

[E]

Oh, yeah. So I get it. I mean, I don't agree, but I get his frustration.

[B]

So you just got time. You just wanna. You know what I mean? You can do some new investigative work and get your shit off me.

[E]

Yeah, man. I wanna develop some new platforms, you know, I think we need. I think all of us need to kinda branch out, do new shows, do new platforms, find new ways to go. You know what I'm saying? Just doing new shit. So that's going to be my new.

[A]

Anybody here have any thoughts on the new Black Panther? They. They announced

[D]

he looks. He resembles.

[A]

What's his name?

[C]

I don't know.

[E]

The British dude, right?

[A]

Yeah, Johnson. I didn't.

[D]

David Johnson.

[A]

David Johnson announced as the new Black Panther. Tala, son.

[D]

I. I think the casting it. If he can act. I haven't seen him act.

[A]

He can act.

[D]

It was a. No, he can act. He was. I only seen one thing, but if. Long walk. Yeah, but if the casting is amazing. He looks like he's related to him, bro.

[E]

Yeah, but they can't. They got stuff using British actors for. They.

[D]

She got somebody from Wakanda, like the casting.

[A]

He.

[D]

They couldn't have found a better person to resemble him. So if they get it off, they get it off. They said that they shot away from Damson because they said he was bigger than the role. I don't necessarily agree with that, but

[E]

that would have been an interesting choice.

[A]

It seemed like that's the choice everybody was waiting.

[D]

Yeah, they were calling for that immediately. Yeah, yeah, they were calling for Damson, but I don't see why. I don't think he was bigger than a Marvel role.

[E]

I don't think anybody's bigger than there.

[D]

Not Black Panther. Panther. Not Black. Yeah.

[A]

So when is Black Panther 3 supposed to be released?

[D]

2028, I think.

[B]

Oh, yeah. 2028.

[E]

Well, January of 2020. Right?

[A]

28. All right, cool. Well, I'm gonna see. I support Ryan Coogler.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm sure. I don't care who he had. Like, honestly, his. His credit is.

[A]

I can't even think that far. We got doom coming up. I ain't.

[G]

I ain't.

[A]

I ain't thinking that part of 2028 when it's doom time. Oh, oh, what they gonna do? What they gonna do? It pun. Come, come knocking at your door. And he was. Whoa, yo. So I heard that Christopher Nolan has two brothers and one of them is a hitman and hasn't been seen in the public in 25 years.

[C]

Really?

[D]

What?

[C]

I know one of them is right. I think he wrote Memento or one of them. He wrote something.

[A]

I can't. I cannot confirm the hitman thing, but it is something that's been floating around and judging by Nolan movies and Nolan's mind, it makes perfect sense to me. It just makes perfect sense that he would have a hitman brother.

[E]

Yeah, that's does track. It does track. Anyway, speaking of hitman, unfortunately, there's no more sad news, but everything I hear about David.

[C]

Lock him up.

[E]

I just want it. Almost makes me not believe even due process, right? Like, the shit is disgusting, man. Every detail, man. It's like. This is like the nastiest, ugliest thing I've ever seen or heard in my life, man.

[A]

Yeah. I have it written here as David is a different type of evil. Yeah, it's a different type of evil, dog. It's sickening. Yeah, it's sickening to hear the facts, hear more facts. I got thoughts on. On the parents. I got. I got.

[B]

He went to church with them and like that.

[A]

Yeah, man, we'll wait for due process.

[E]

Everybody deserves due process. Everybody. You know, but it's just. It's just. It's just.

[A]

But they got him dead to rights. They got him dead to rights. They. They got all the information you could possibly have. They got the whole route. They got the lie they got when he took her cell phone and text himself. They got the cell phone coordinates. They got the text that say, hey, I'm pregnant. Hey, I'm blowing you up tomorrow. You done? They got. They got it all. They got the motive. They got how they got your. Your Uber eats order of chainsaws and whatever the. You order. Inflatable. Inflatable chainsaw, dog.

[E]

Yo, this would be the greatest frame job in the history of the world.

[C]

World.

[E]

If he's not guilty. I'm not saying it's not possible, but when the prosecutor put forward the evidence to show that they have enough cause to move forward, this shit was. I mean, I've never seen anything more overwhelming.

[A]

The tweet a week later, talking about

[D]

dk, He's a sicko, yo.

[A]

Word. Like, go sit him up somewhere.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm gonna say the only question is whether he has an affirmative defense of mental illness. That's the only thing he might get is because it's so sick that you can almost say like, no, no, same person. No same person could do. Could be this depraved.

[A]

It's hard to argue stuff like that when there's so much premeditation.

[E]

I'm with you. I'm with you. But I think that's the only argument he has. That's the only game he. I don't think it works, but I think that's the only card he has left to play. I agree with you, though. I don't see it isn't There a

[A]

high bar for insanity?

[E]

It is. It's pretty high. It's pretty high. Mental illness isn't enough because like 80% of people in prisons have some form of mental illness. It has to be like severe. Severe, severe. It's tough. I don't see it working.

[D]

I don't see it. Get him out of here.

[A]

Yeah, man. I said lock the parents up too,

[D]

but whatever you said what?

[A]

I said lock the parents up too.

[E]

I don't know the parents story. I don't know enough to answer.

[C]

They're saying that her parents were aware of their relationship. I think that's what he's referring to.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And his parents were too.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, wow. And again, I don't know. I'm just getting the details as they come out. But if you. If you learn. And again, I'm not. Well, it sounds like I'm blaming. I don't want it to sound like that. If you learn that your 11 year old daughter is dating the 18 year old artist. Taking the phone.

[D]

Ain't it facts?

[A]

Taking the phone didn't do nothing. So sorry. He shipped a new phone to the school. Now you're like that. That didn't. They need. There needed to be more action taken in that moment. For whatever reason. It was not.

[E]

And it has to be your mission.

[B]

That.

[E]

That was their last communication.

[A]

Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't get that. But that, that goes open to the just being a lot of things. I don't know.

[D]

That's that new, newer parenting thing of being my kid's friend. Like, it's a lot of people that. I don't really.

[E]

I don't even think it's that.

[D]

No, I'm saying a lot of people. A lot of people don't want their kids to not like them. So it's like I wanna treat you a certain way and it might have a conversation. Take your phone. But I'm not gonna go too crazy. Cause I don't want you to hate me. As your parent, your job ain't to be your kid's friend.

[E]

Now that part I agree with.

[D]

It's a lot of that happening.

[E]

Or not, just different.

[D]

It's a lot of that happening though, bro. A lot of, you know, relaxed. I'm not gonna say discipline, but relaxed. Just enforcement. Because I don't want my kids to hate me.

[E]

Look, man, let's move to something serious. We haven't talked about. Mom. Dani.

[A]

God damn it.

[E]

We haven't talked about.

[C]

I love mom D as much as the next man.

[E]

But not more than me.

[C]

That's true. That's true.

[E]

Nobody loves Mom Donnie more than me. He just announced. No, no, I mean it. Gay play.

[B]

I know.

[E]

He announced Yesterday they opened five new grocery stores that will be available for 30% below retail for all the people out there in New York. All the poor people in New York. So just shout out to him. Shout out to them.

[B]

That's fire.

[E]

I got beef with Kyle Kuzma. Did you see Kyle Kuzma coming for him on Twitter?

[A]

Yes, I did.

[E]

I did. I'm not a shut up and dribble guy. I want all the athletes to come out and speak and speak their mind, but don't sound stupid. And when you look at what he wrote, it looked like it was made with AI. Man, I'm. I don't know what Kyle Koozman's up to. I don't like Kyle Koozman said, for

[A]

the people that don't know, we have a mayor trying to act like a president.

[E]

Exactly. And he's not. He's simply doing what he's supposed to do.

[D]

No, but he should act like the president.

[E]

You know what could be worse? Right?

[G]

Right.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, you just are responsible for a smaller landmass in a smaller area, but you still are kind of running it based on the needs of your constituency.

[E]

He was trying to say that.

[B]

He was.

[E]

He's saying, because Madani was talking about arresting Netanyahu when he comes to New York, that he was saying, that's not in your place. And Mamdani said, that's not my place. He said, I checked the law. I'm not allowed to do that. But we still don't want him here. You're allowed to say that. And all he was doing to me, Kyle Kuzmo was chirping and responding to what all them right wing people were saying. And people called him out on it. Rosenberg called him out on it. And he clapped back on. Rosenberg basically told him, you only get to talk when you let you talk. And he clapped back at some other people. I responded to him. Quiet like a mouse pissing on cow.

[A]

Oh, now you in the scope, Kyle. So now we interviewing y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

Tread lightly, Mr. Kuzma.

[D]

Oh, now I get. I just did the math. You said you started your new investigative

[B]

series and you know what time he on.

[D]

Oh, yeah, I know what he on.

[A]

Big Ma. I like it. I'm not mad.

[D]

You gonna find where the body's buried.

[A]

I'm not mad. I had a quick question for Y', all, this doe ass have nothing to do with nothing but the dude. Ashton. Ashton hall sat with Cam Newton and said that he didn't do the. He didn't. He didn't. Ended up. He didn't end up doing a partnership deal with Saratoga because they didn't offer him equity. The Internet started killing him over it. Just a light topic. Where do y' all stand on this? On what he should and should have done? I mean, should and shouldn't have done?

[B]

What were they killing him over real quick? The fact that he.

[A]

Well, the Internet was killing him. But how dare you approach a company that's existed since 1874 and ask them for equity rather than taking the pay, if it was good pay, and just putting it to wherever you saw fit or taking the money and investing in the company. If you believe in what you're edition is going to do.

[B]

I mean, you miss all the shots you don't take, man. I mean, I don't think.

[C]

I don't think he was wrong for asking for it. Yeah, but I wouldn't not do any deal whatsoever because they didn't give me equity. I don't think. I mean, I'm not in his shoes, but, I mean, you already did that.

[E]

People are crazy.

[C]

You did all that advertising. You might as well get some money for it.

[B]

Yeah, and they were willing to pay him, but, you know, some, you know,

[D]

man's had 444 playing and just was like, you know what? Be hearing people talk about equity and they automatically assume that that's the first negotiation position you take.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

You got to build up a. A brand and a name and a following and an audience to be able to go in a room and demand equity.

[A]

No.

[B]

Wish he did.

[C]

Oh, you could ask. You just. If it doesn't work out, there's.

[B]

Yeah, but people.

[D]

People.

[B]

A lot of people got with the water. Putting the water in his face.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Wash his feet.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

He built. He built. I mean, he built. He built up what he built a following.

[D]

Not a following that you could go on and ask a company that's 200 years old for some equity in.

[B]

What type of following does that look like to you?

[D]

Not that you need following that can move.

[B]

What I'm saying is that he built the following.

[D]

I mean. Yeah, but I mean, we all have a following. I want followers and a following are two different things.

[B]

I don't.

[D]

You know that, right?

[E]

There's nothing wrong with Nike for equity, though. That's my thing. And I'm. I'm not saying you're saying that. I'm just saying ask. If they say no, be cool with it. I only got an issue with him if he were outraged that they said no.

[D]

I mean, he said he didn't do a deal with them. Cause they wouldn't.

[A]

Because they wouldn't give him equity.

[D]

Which means there's a level of delusion there, a lot of delusion that we get led by people like Joe Button can ask somebody for equity. Because Joe's built up an audience over the last 20 years prior to him just jumping off the porch. I think that if Ish and I started a podcast and for us to go ask Fiji for equity, I think that's a miscalculation.

[B]

I do, too, of course.

[E]

But I'm just saying I'm not going to drag him for that. Yeah.

[B]

If he's willing to make the.

[E]

Make that miscalculation.

[A]

Oh, true.

[E]

You know, now if he was not dragging. I don't think you're doing that. But if he went on Twitter and was like, Fiji or Sarah Token in this case, then I would have, like, you. You know what I mean? You have a right to ask. I got. I came to a podcast 10 years after it started, and I wasn't afraid to ask for equity and. Because I got it, you know, I mean, a lot of people, you know, would say that was a crazy move, but they didn't. I mean, you got. You got to do what you got to do.

[D]

That's peace.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Shut your stupid ass up.

[D]

What? I was just saying he built up a following. He didn't build up a following. He built up a bunch of followers. That's not a following. That's not. They don't move.

[B]

That sounds like hate to me for.

[D]

It's not hate. Impact from a following is different. Like, you use the Joe example. Joe has a legion of. He has a following that I can move to this company and they will follow me.

[A]

Don't interrupt. Freeze when he bigging me up.

[D]

I don't think that dude.

[B]

I don't think you.

[D]

Yeah, like. But what I'm saying.

[A]

Hold on.

[D]

I don't think that dude, if he decided to say, yo, Saratoga, I'm going to this water brand over here that everybody's going to buy that water.

[A]

Got it?

[D]

That's not. That's. You don't have power like that. That's where the equity comes in.

[B]

What do you base that off of?

[D]

You have to show it. You have to do it.

[B]

That don't. I get it. I get what you're saying.

[E]

It doesn't.

[B]

It doesn't hurt to ask. He sounds like, that's it.

[D]

He didn't get it. But some people are going in asking too. It don't hurt to ask. It never hurts to ask. Worst thing they can say is no. Well, it's not true. Other things can happen too. But a lot of people, I think, are hearing these conversations, conversations that the, the higher up businessmen are having and are saying like, yo, yo, you. You just taking a deal. We don't take deals without equity. So now they in their mind thinking, even at the lower level, I'm walking right into the big company saying, I want equity.

[E]

I agree.

[D]

Well, guess what? No, my. That's not how it works.

[E]

And it's also not fair. As a business owner, I can tell you I've had people ask me for equity, particularly or in a couple businesses, and I'm always like, I spent all this time building it. I'm almost insulted at the. I'm almost insulted at that. And I'm not almost. I am insulted at the ass, which

[D]

could shoot yourself in the foot when you start talking about negotiations going there asking for equity. Yo, get the fuck out my office and leave the door open on you.

[A]

Now.

[E]

There are people who have asked me who have worked hard enough to deserve something. I'm not saying everybody's in that boat, but I've had people come in out the gate. I'm talking about like the first day I meet them, like, hey, I'll manage your coffee shop.

[D]

But I want equity.

[E]

But I want equity. I want to own this percentage of it. And it's like, are you crazy?

[D]

What?

[E]

You just came. You just came here yesterday.

[A]

I'm certainly not going to kill nobody, nobody for asking. Ask whatever you want.

[B]

Facts.

[A]

What I will say to Ashton is, big fish, small pond. Always better than big fish, big pond. That's all I got for you, buddy.

[D]

Thousand percent.

[A]

Big fish, small pond. Go take, go take Rinky Dink water.

[D]

That's who should have did.

[A]

I would go put that in every video. Get them an audience they never saw, never seen. All of the little C Suite niggas blown away.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[A]

All of this for all of the followers to freeze this point that you have put this product in front of their face. They'll be impressed in a way that Fiji won't or Saratoga won't or go to Signature. Signature, Big tooth. Let me not say that. But just any one of anybody.

[D]

Another option. If you really believe you are make your own water. And it ain't hard. I know A nigga that got one like dog niggas is making their own water.

[A]

You know a nigga that made his own water first.

[D]

Yeah, Alkali water, too.

[B]

Two people.

[A]

No, you don't.

[B]

Yes, he do.

[D]

Come outside, bro.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

But no, invite me to.

[D]

You can help him. It's not even that hard. What I'm saying is, if you really believe that you are entitled to equity in a company that big, you could just jump off the porch and start your own facts.

[B]

Let me get some equity in your company, nigga. Hey, yo, let me get some equity in your company.

[D]

I don't have a content company. N we want a piece of that

[B]

is the real estate.

[D]

I don't have a rap company.

[B]

I'll take over y trap. I'll take over y rat traps. N. I come there and take over your old. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

You. That's Pop's house you fixing, right? It's almost done.

[E]

I love Shak.

[B]

Yeah, you want to see my pops out?

[E]

You see the new pictures of Shak?

[A]

New pictures of sh. Didn't.

[E]

And she did a new photo spray or was a new video cuz she. She redid through the fire like on colors.

[A]

I bought it. Yeah, it sounds great.

[E]

Oh, I didn't listen.

[C]

He only watched.

[A]

Oh, you want to play for it sounds great.

[F]

Hold on.

[E]

You missing.

[C]

No, no, no, no. You're not understanding.

[E]

He's not following.

[B]

She.

[C]

She's got the hot.

[E]

She's got the hot widow category is what I'm saying.

[G]

Always.

[A]

That's what you saying. Always been. Yeah, but she going to run her mouth to the old hoes.

[D]

Yeah, that might work.

[A]

Joe, Joe, Joe. You Shaka Khan now Dion War know how big my dick is. The point is, I do not need Gladys Knife. No, my dick's hot, dog. I'm sorry.

[B]

I'm cool.

[A]

Yo, y' all are fools, man. Good time today. Good vibrations, man. Listen, hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios, arriba dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir.

[B]

So long.

[A]

Goodbye or a simple head nod will suffice. Listen, remember, life is a series of moments and moments past. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Last, but certainly not, not least. The baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things Grab you a Tylenol. A Tylenol. You might need it. With that said, what y' all on this week, man? What's happening? What's happening? What's your weak plans? Work, work, work, work, work. Oh, mixing song.

[E]

Oh, I'm gaming with my girl.

[A]

I'm going to speak Mom Donnie's panel. What are you doing there, hot shot?

[E]

I know.

[A]

Sitting in the house watching docs. Sitting on the docker. Actually, I'm. Yo, this is what we doing now on some straight loser. We just starting every show that exists in the house with my girl. We starting shows, watching four episodes. Leave it go to the next.

[D]

So why don't you go watch it?

[A]

I'm on episode, episode eight. We might. We might. I just learned that she never saw Billions. So now. So now we got to go back.

[D]

I was late to Billions.

[A]

We got to go back. We doing old show night now. So that's it.

[C]

That's fine.

[A]

But I don't have nothing planned, man. She out of town this weekend. She got to go college. She got to go load her daughter up into college. Shout out to Naim, congratulations. She loading him into college now. But Friday, cuz, this weekend in Mississippi, she got low in Costa. She got to take a flight out

[D]

there either for the weekend.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know.

[E]

She come right back.

[A]

She can't.

[E]

You can't.

[A]

Can't fool her. She'll be right back. But I do get a little Friday night to just unwind.

[E]

It's nice, ain't it?

[A]

Unwind. Yeah, unwind. Man, that's all I got. That's all I got, man. Yo, I can't wait for the summer to be over. I ain't going to lie. I'm one of them. I can't wait for September 22nd to get here. Fall, clap out. Gloom, doom, darkness.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

First week of September, let's send these kids back to school.

[A]

Oh, my God. Get their little asses out of here. Wait. Enough of these kids. That's all I got, man. Y' all be good out there. Hold it down until the next time. Ego. You've never heard of Joe, Buddy,

[E]

Yo, it's the network.