Episode 951 | "On The Record"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 951 | "On The Record"

Date: August 1, 2026
Host: Joe Budden
Guests/Co-hosts: Demona (Mona), Mark Lamont Hill, Ice, Parks, Ish, and others

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Overview

Episode 951 of The Joe Budden Podcast, titled "On The Record," is a lively, sprawling conversation between Joe Budden and his eclectic crew as they celebrate new successes, unpack the realities of the podcast business, weigh in on new music and pop culture, and, as always, dive into hilarious and revealing personal stories. The episode stands out for its inside look at the team's dynamic, candid takes on industry rumors and realities, and the announcement of Joe's new partnership with Dick Wolf. Highlights include Joe’s reaction to Forbes’ Top 20 Podcasters List, debates about flex culture and music remixes, dissecting true crime news, waxing (and de-waxing!) experiences, hygiene revelations, and a round of TV and documentary recommendations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vibes & Community Energy (00:00–07:00)

• The crew opens with lighthearted banter about body image, in-group teasing, and reactions to the presence of a reporter in the studio.
• Joe jokes about July feeling interminable and expensive, especially with "two kids in college" now. The team underscores the grind of life while celebrating making it into August.

Memorable Quotes:

• "By the time y’ all are hearing this episode, it is officially August... This is the longest month ever. It’s kicking my ass." – Joe (03:54)
• "Apparently I got two kids in college... God damn it." – Joe (04:35)

Timestamp Highlights

• [03:54] Reflections on the never-ending month of July
• [05:05] Joe learning about his son Trey partying with Mona

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2. Celebrating Team Wins: 'Potter of the Month' & Maturing Friendships (09:00–13:00)

• The "Potter of the Month" title is awarded, with Ice getting the honor.
• The crew reflects on growth and camaraderie, mixing heartfelt appreciation with classic snark.

Memorable Quotes:

• "Congrats to Ice. Ice killed... you absolutely killed it. You’ve deserved it." – Mark (12:22)
• "Let this be a lesson, right, Mark, you have to win the award naturally, dog..." – Joe (12:29)

Timestamp Highlights

• [09:41] Passing the 'Potter of the Month' chain
• [12:10] Group reflection on the award

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3. Podcast Industry Talk: Forbes Top Earning Podcasters List & Independence (25:00–39:00)

• Discussion about Forbes’ list of highest-paid podcasters and the presence of The Joe Budden Podcast at #15.
• Joe addresses misconceptions about how much his team makes and emphasizes his podcast’s independence in the market.
• The group highlights the importance of patience and perseverance in building a successful independent show.

Memorable Quotes:

• "You keep letting them downplay your bread. I'm proud of you." – Mark (28:42)
• "Let this be inspiration to all of you. ...You can do it, man." – Joe (38:54)

Timestamp Highlights

• [25:12] Forbes Top Podcasters List breakdown
• [27:16] Acknowledgement for Charlamagne being on the list
• [29:19] Announcement of Joe’s partnership with Dick Wolf

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4. Joe’s New True Crime Venture with Dick Wolf (30:00–33:30)

• Joe announces an upcoming true crime show, a partnership with TV legend Dick Wolf.
• The conversation reflects on creative ownership vs. upfront pay in today’s "creator economy."

Memorable Quotes:

• "The blessing is to be doing things I'm proud to put my name on... with people who are legends in the field" – Joe (32:16)
• "A lot of creators out there want to do both: get paid all the money and own. Nah." – Joe (33:12)

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5. Reflections on Success, Work Ethic, and Taking Stock (33:40–36:00)

• Joe and others talk about when to "marvel" at one’s journey—a question that comes up as big partnerships and milestones arrive.
• The team explores how creators tend to just "keep working" and only later process their growth or success.

Memorable Quotes:

• "When are you supposed to take a step back and look and say damn? When is that appropriate?" – Mona (33:49)
• "It usually be, like, way after." – Parks (34:03)

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6. New Music Reviews: Cardi B, Meek Mill, Wale, Rapsody (42:50–67:00)

• The crew reviews new singles by Cardi B, Meek Mill’s remix of his own classic "Dreams and Nightmares" ("Nightmares of Dreams"), Wale’s latest, and a neo-soul turn by Rapsody.
• Heated debate around Meek Mill’s choice to remix his signature hit—whether it’s "weird" or a smart independent move.

Memorable Quotes:

• "You’re never going to do it good enough...it’s too big of a song to touch, in my opinion." – Parks (57:58)
• "Sometimes you just gotta f*** somebody so they could be a muse for your next song." – Joe, on Wale’s brief public relationship (65:00)

Timestamp Highlights

• [43:23] Cardi B’s single review
• [47:22] Cardi’s “body transformation” and discussion of women’s health journeys
• [49:10–67:00] In-depth break-down of Meek Mill’s "Nightmares of Dreams" and related industry strategy

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7. Pop Culture & Industry Beef: Dave East, Jim Jones vs. 38 Spesh (69:00–76:00)

• Team discusses recent industry beefs: Dave East drops 38 Spesh from his album after Spesh’s falling out with Jim Jones.
• Joe underscores the real-life consequences of clashing with those who hold powerful relationships in the business.

Memorable Quotes:

• "In the future, there’s going to be a verse you want from somebody that you’re not going to get and you’re not going to know why." — Joe (72:17)

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8. Hygiene, Waxing, Body Image, and Gender Norms (80:52–104:20)

• A hilarious and surprisingly insightful segment as the crew recounts waxing (and lasering) stories, male grooming routines, and DJ Envy’s viral admission about not knowing how to properly clean himself until his wife intervened.
• Discussion expands into how men (and people in general) learn hygiene, cultural differences, and shame/taboo around certain topics.

Memorable Quotes:

• "You a grown man getting your whole back waxed...You need the Shamu." – Joe (96:31)
• "My Virgo ex taught me how to put deodorant on...like, nobody taught me hygiene stuff." – Mona (105:21)

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9. True Crime, Doc, and TV Recommendations (136:39–142:52)

• The crew shares thoughts on the Netflix doc "Toxic Love," plus recommendations for shows like Ted Lasso, Margo’s Got Money Problems (Apple TV), Schitt’s Creek, and more.

Timestamp Highlights

• [136:41] Mona reviews "Toxic Love" documentary

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10. Viral Gossip, ‘Messy Boots’ & Relationship Exposés (142:59–149:50)

• Reaction to Miracle Watts’ marriage being “exposed” on social media by an alleged former sidepiece.
• The group debates the ethics of airing dirty laundry online and how little clout or money figure into these new exposé rituals.

Memorable Quotes:

• "If you want privacy, nigga, you gotta pay more than 350. Number one, 350 is not getting nobody to hold some shit down." – Joe (147:31)

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11. Closing Notes: Show News & Weekend Plans (176:06–end)

• Rapid-fire check-ins as the crew shares their weekend plans, fashion ideas for Joe’s birthday, and more. Joe reflects on his daughter leaving for college and the "rescue dog" debate.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Independence in the Podcast Game:
  "Let this be inspiration to all of you...You can do it, man." –Joe ([38:54])

• On Waxing & Grooming:
  "You look like smooth, and soft, and thick." –Mona, to Ice ([93:11])

• On Industry Realities:
  "In the future there’s gonna be a show you can’t book at a venue and you’re not gonna know why...It’s the creation of enemies with people that have long-lasting relationships." –Joe ([72:27])

• On the New Dick Wolf Project:
  "I could not be more excited to partner with Dick Wolf...In True Crime, this is where I want to be." –Joe ([31:03])

• On Streaming/Content Incels:
  "If you turn the camera on and you inviting women around, try respecting them." –Joe ([132:31])

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Additional Timestamps & Topics

• [23:16] Mark’s “back crack” story and playful sexual innuendo
• [80:19] Mona on women apologizing in R&B records, “More of that. Don’t just leave it to Anita Baker.”
• [122:42] The team discusses sexual misconduct in Hollywood, the politics, and the nature of accountability
• [166:12] Stephen A. Smith’s apology to Kyrie Irving, debated for its timing and authenticity

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Episode Tone and Language

• Language/Tone: The episode maintains the JBP’s signature mix of streetwise honesty, raunchy humor, and introspective moments. The tone flips from ribbing jokes to serious discourse seamlessly, demonstrating both raw authenticity and vulnerability.
• Group dynamic: Free-flowing, argumentative, and always ready to clown each other, the crew sustains a sense of genuine chemistry and lived-in rapport.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode is a quintessential example of why The Joe Budden Podcast is a pillar in the hip hop and podcast worlds: it’s at once irreverent, deeply personal, full of inside jokes, relentlessly current, and also unafraid to wade into deeper issues about success, ownership, and responsibility in the digital age. Standout moments—like Joe’s pride in creative independence, the team’s honest talk about hygiene and gender expectations, and the behind-the-scenes look at making the Forbes Top 20—make this episode both entertaining and unexpectedly insightful.

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Episode Essentials:

• Forbes Top Podcasters List breakdown ([25:00–39:00])
• Joe x Dick Wolf true crime show detail ([30:00–33:30])
• New music debate (Cardi B, Meek Mill, Wale, Rapsody) ([42:50–67:00])
• Independence in podcasting & industry beef ([69:00–76:00])
• Hygiene/waxing revelations ([80:52–104:20])
• Pop culture, TV, relationships & viral mess ([136:41–149:50])
• Stephen A. Smith’s ‘apology tour’ ([166:12–175:11])
• Crew’s weekend plans & closing reflections ([176:06–end])

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“Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there... Life is a series of moments, and moments pass, so let’s make this one last as if it’s all we have.” —Joe Budden (181:58)

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Useful for new and long-time fans alike, this episode captures JBP’s unique blend of industry savvy, street wisdom, and pure fun.

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, whose bullets its hosts offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. That's you. Turn it on, Ron. Who you think she pointing at? See, you think you already shooting at me and I love you. I don't want no smoke today, but when Mona was singing the thick one, she was pointing at you. Ain't nothing wrong with it.

[B]

We like the thick one.

[C]

Hey, you consider it's thick.

[A]

It's so hard to pick one.

[D]

How many Cs?

[B]

One. Just one.

[A]

Just one strong thick, too. It ain't that mushy.

[B]

Women like thick men, though.

[A]

Hey, it ain't that mushy. Flob thick. It's solid.

[B]

Yeah, that counts, too.

[A]

Nah, you looking good.

[B]

You look great, boy.

[E]

Nothing. She complimented you, bro. Thank you.

[D]

Ish is not gonna say a word.

[C]

Everything is on the record, so we.

[D]

We say a word.

[C]

Yo, he acted like he wasn't being brought in for questioning.

[A]

Wasn't me.

[C]

A reporter came in. We have a reporter here, y'.

[A]

All. It wasn't right audience. We have a real reporter here.

[D]

Whoa, don't do Mark like that.

[C]

Oh, I'm fine with that. He got a notepad and everything. But, you know, when you came in, he came in, he was kind of just milling about, you know, doing that

[A]

thing, that thing that reported.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Hey, don't middle about in here.

[C]

Look, started talking, and Mona was talking.

[A]

Oh, God damn.

[E]

About the show, yo, you know how we could prevent that from ever happening again? If the company told us, hey, guys, there'll be a reporter here today.

[C]

Oh, that'd be good.

[E]

Wouldn't that be fire?

[C]

That'd be good.

[D]

Interesting proposition.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

Got to talk to you for you to be distinguished. The company got to talk to you for you to have some fucking class. Let him cook the day. Let him cook the day. Hey, all right. Hey, Company here. Y' all should try. Try having some class.

[C]

That was my thing.

[E]

He slipped his pa, Nobody even realized why.

[C]

Was like, there's a strange white man walking around with a notepad. Let's not talk about. We don't want people to know that might go and said notepad.

[B]

I asked.

[C]

Ice was street smart people, right? Ish. Once he. Once my man said, everything's on the record. Everything's on the Record, which I was telling y', all, like, if he in the room, it's on the record. Ishan said the word, what time it was.

[A]

It's the one he need to talk to. I think he's from New Jersey Dot Com.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on, man.

[C]

Hey, Mr. New Jersey.

[D]

He is newjersey. Com, actually.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

Keith.new jersey.com. that's hilarious. He wouldn't leave the mayor's face when he was in here. Don't act shy now.

[E]

Right, right.

[A]

He was all in the mayor's face, begging for lots. Now he's shy and don't want to talk. Wouldn't get out of Mayor Smalls face when he was looking for them condominium buildings.

[E]

Mayor Smalls and I would talk about basketball. Unfortunately, you're not that athletic.

[A]

How many basketballs can fit in this thousand door? How many basketball you think I can fit in this thousand door building? I want to put up?

[C]

All right, man.

[A]

Though. No, that's fire. That's fire. It's good to see y'. All. Good to see y. How y' all doing?

[D]

Feeling great.

[A]

How you good?

[C]

I'm good.

[A]

I'm real good. Real good. Big moaning. What's up?

[B]

I'm chilling.

[A]

You got a gig this weekend? Why you got the. Why you. Why you looking good?

[B]

I wanted to get dressed.

[A]

Hello?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

That's all you need sometimes. Listen, by the time y' all are here in this episode, it is officially August.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. Today, however, is July 31. This is the first time in my entire life I've actually had to acknowledge 31 days in July. This is the longest month ever. It's kicking my ass.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I've been chased to chasing all month. Where's the next chap? Hey, fuck with these lists. Talking about I'm chasing the chasing. I'm so happy. It's August. Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. July. It's over. It is over. Goodbye forever, bro. Oh, my God.

[D]

You ain't lying.

[A]

All the bills hit in July.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I feel like. Yeah.

[A]

And apparently I got two kids in college. Yo, this shit is crazy out here, for real. I got two kids of college.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

God damn it.

[E]

Woke up to that epiphany.

[B]

That's deep, though. That's like, heavy.

[A]

My shit is hitting this month all

[B]

at once is crazy.

[A]

This month. Oh, man. Don't get me to talking about it now.

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

The last time I saw you, I had. I went out and I partied with Trey. You know Trey popped out with me last weekend.

[D]

Oh, for real?

[B]

Yeah. Trey was rolling with his Aunt Mona.

[D]

Are you just learning this on air?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

That's awesome.

[A]

I have another son that's partying with Mona. Yeah. You want to talk about somebody? Life just being in ruins.

[D]

Do you approve of this?

[A]

Why is my 25 year old baby. What's going on, Mo? What you did?

[B]

We had. It was. It was a hosting. It was a. We're at a nightclub in Delaware.

[D]

Put some miles on that.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[C]

Yo, he ain't learned his lesson yet.

[E]

That's the part I was waiting for.

[A]

Where did this happen at?

[B]

Wait a minute. I want me. I want everybody in here to know that I told Mr. Button when I found out. When I found out, I said, yo, look who popping our motor. Remember we had a brief little. And you said some slick. I'm not repeating.

[A]

And no, not the slick.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not going to repeat that.

[A]

Oh, I'll say it. I said, oh, look at my son reaching out to Mona to hang out. Even though he didn't give his grandparents his new phone number.

[B]

Cuz he said Mona got a new number. And then I show dad here. Go dad. Oh, he couldn't get his pop.

[A]

Pop.

[B]

I'm like, oh, this too old. That's like, what the. Why are we going straight to. He ain't give his pop up the number.

[A]

I'm a parent. I'm a parent.

[C]

Wait, but why was your son in Delaware and you a pen.

[B]

To hang with me. To hang with me.

[A]

Who knows Dealing drugs. There's a journalist here allegedly works in a dispensary.

[B]

Nah, you know what I think? I think Trey got his eye on somebody.

[E]

You think Trey what?

[B]

He got his eye on somebody.

[A]

Why do we. I can't hear y'. All. We ain't about to do what?

[E]

No, because. Because Corey said he went all the way to Delaware like ain't got on the road.

[B]

Come on, bro.

[A]

For a girlfriend. We was going to pop, bro.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

We wasn't going to

[E]

this picked up and moved his entire life.

[B]

Ain't nothing wrong with it.

[A]

To Amish country.

[E]

He wasn't popping. He popped in and ain't leave. What you talking about?

[C]

You Amish country. For a girl.

[E]

Did he?

[A]

Not for a girl.

[E]

But it wasn't island town. He was the biggest shovel out.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay. I always get it twisted.

[C]

I know. Damn.

[B]

No, but I think. I think that was. I think he got his eye on somebody. But we had a good time and then went. Cause he broke A couple. A friend or two or something. And he was just like, how did they get there? They were with him. He didn't come along.

[A]

All right, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[B]

He come alone.

[A]

Y' all don't worry about it. That little Lexus will be up in two seconds. That's what he did.

[E]

He bought one of his line brothers for Auntie.

[B]

Stop.

[E]

I want the thick one.

[A]

I want the thick one. Oh, shit.

[B]

I hate them too much. Listen.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[B]

He was. First of all, Trey Mozarted carry himself. He looked very cute. He don't act like a weirdo in the section. Like, he's cool. People kept saying, damn. Didn't like Joe Button.

[A]

No, he's smooth when he out.

[E]

He's smooth.

[B]

Yeah. Very smooth.

[A]

Yeah, he's smooth.

[B]

Trey was cool.

[A]

I told y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Every time we go to the strip club, he start having a 59 minute conversation with the craziest girl there. Did I tell y' all that?

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

He wanted things about the tree and that apple.

[D]

Man,

[B]

I love when they do that to you. Do it again. Do it again.

[A]

I like that part.

[B]

Hurry up or you get the music.

[E]

That is hilarious.

[B]

Nah.

[A]

Yeah, it might be. Joy genetic.

[B]

I had a good time with Trey.

[A]

I'm glad you asked.

[B]

Trey said he wanted to get out of Jersey, so he got out of Jersey.

[E]

That's hot. Yeah.

[D]

You made sure he was safe.

[A]

I had to call my kid. I don't know what I'm call. I'm going call my kid and see what's going on with him.

[D]

It's probably a good idea.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

If you got. If you got the right number.

[E]

Right?

[C]

You got.

[E]

Make sure you get the number for.

[B]

Well, I'll ask him first. Is he cool with it? Because I know he didn't want his grandparents.

[A]

There you go, Mark. How you doing, man?

[C]

I'm doing great, man. I'm doing good.

[E]

Great.

[C]

Lovely.

[A]

Everything all right?

[D]

I sounded a little apprehensive.

[C]

No complaints at all. Everything's good. Why wouldn't it be? Everything's fine. Everything's fine, Joe.

[B]

This nigga's a psycho. Deep down, y' all know for sure. Like, you know, like when somebody kill a thousand people at the job? Mm, no shade. Just text me first.

[C]

Do it on a Tuesday. Yeah, please.

[D]

Everything's on the record here.

[B]

Oh, fuck.

[C]

Totally not a psycho. I'm totally not a psycho.

[A]

This episode comes out in July. July. We do have an official Potter of the Month.

[E]

August.

[A]

I mean, August. I'm sorry about that. This Episode comes out in August, we do have the official Potter of the month.

[D]

I can't wait.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

But technically, because it's the last day of July, do I have to pass the chain now or do I wait till next party?

[D]

You can pass it to yourself.

[A]

I think you should pass it now.

[C]

And before we announce who it is, I just want to say that my vote.

[A]

No, nothing. No need to say at this point.

[B]

They just ping ponging this. If it's my boy, I'll jump up, I swear. Yeah, this is a joke. This shit rigged, bro. This.

[A]

Oh,

[D]

Two chains. Hello.

[A]

You ain't have a lot of change. You want me to help, yo?

[E]

Really look like.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, now you got two joints up there.

[B]

Congratulations.

[A]

Congratulations. Congratulations.

[C]

Thank y'. All.

[E]

Thank y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

Thank y'.

[D]

All.

[E]

It's my second one.

[C]

First time since, I think, March of 2020.

[B]

Is there anybody that has never gotten it, ever?

[D]

I don't think so.

[B]

Everybody got it, like, once.

[A]

All right, so now freeze. You want to say anything to the people out there?

[E]

Thank you. Like, I didn't. I didn't expect it. So I don't even have a speech. What'd you say, Mark?

[B]

Huh?

[C]

I sent you a tweet this morning. Congratulations.

[E]

I haven't been on Twitter.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I sent you a nice little. No, I was rooting for you.

[A]

I was totally.

[C]

Like. I sent you a note yesterday, Joe, saying, this is great.

[A]

You did. You did text me about it.

[D]

You was hating on Ice.

[A]

No,

[C]

honestly, Ice killed the whole month.

[D]

I thought he deserved one a couple of months ago.

[C]

Boy, I deserved it like three months ago. Like, it's been like two or three months where you should have gotten it. But you were one of the final two, so this is. And you won handily, boy.

[A]

Mark was in my phone livid about absolute. Yo. Absolutely livid. Early in the morning about the finalists. Oh, it was early. It was in the morning.

[C]

I would just start letting him lie and just add to the. Yeah, it was like 4am Say it again.

[A]

I'll pull it up. But you my man.

[C]

I was crying, so.

[A]

You my man. So I ain't gonna expose it, but just know. And I keep keeping them, I bet. Hold up now. I want to.

[C]

I got a phone, too. Think about them phones, right?

[A]

They go both ways. Them too.

[B]

Text you back when you text him? I don't know.

[E]

He don't text you back?

[B]

No. Not even

[C]

different numbers?

[B]

Not even Apple pays. He don't say nothing back.

[A]

And we are on the record. So today is officially say nice Things about Jody. Mark, do you have anything to say about ice winning the award?

[D]

I get a speech.

[C]

I think Ice. Congrats to Ice. Ice killed. All jokes aside, Ice killed it. You absolutely killed it. Thank you. And like park said, you've deserved it. A few different months where you bodied it.

[A]

And let this be a lesson, right, Mark, you have to win the award. Naturally, dog. All of that. Yo, my mom in law fell in the sewer. All of that. What else did he say? Oh, a raccoon and his goonies were in my. Yo, it's good that there's finally some integrity within the voting within the voting system here.

[E]

Oh, finally.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Jesus, we can't let Mark win with all that hoot.

[A]

Nanny.

[C]

I jumped the shark when I started talking about my son and his, his Tourette's and. And my. And my lady moving in with me.

[B]

With that one right there.

[D]

We've described this expression at least six times on this podcast.

[C]

You never heard jump to shark.

[D]

It's happy days. He jumped over a shark.

[C]

Yeah, he finds jump the shark. He every season he jumps.

[A]

It's okay.

[E]

Cool, Chachi.

[A]

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, I mean, gotta do it for new jersey. Dr. Mike check 1, 2, 1, 2. Mike check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Big jersey. Big jersey.

[E]

So I go to my door.

[A]

Yes, sir. Bone Crusher.

[C]

What up, boy?

[A]

Hey, body in Atlanta. What's going on out there? This is how we feel in the days. Energy up, energy up in here.

[C]

About to win.

[A]

New York City was popping though.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, buddy. Don't listen to his dog. On the ground, on the floor.

[A]

This like the Benjamins for.

[C]

I'mma take my chain.

[B]

I ain't going.

[C]

We going. Come and blow New Jersey.

[A]

Oh, you wilding now. Y man. Just trying to wake him up out there. Just trying to wake him up, get him ready for a good weekend out there. Listen, shout out to everybody tonight. Like, shout out to all the strip club managers out there, all the bartenders. Shout out to lookers take care of my boy Ish. Will you see us? That was all right. Come on, soul House. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready. Shout out to all the dope boys out there. Everybody in jail, everybody in prison. You better call your crew. You gonna need help, help. Whole car strapped and I ain't talking seat bel.

[E]

Yeah, we draw blood. Whole team got choppers like a body club.

[C]

I don't get mad, I just get

[B]

money, money laugh at these fuck niggas

[A]

cause they so funny.

[B]

All the gangster do is stay Fresh

[E]

fortified with the Gucci Temple.

[A]

Listen, shout out to all the subgroups out there. Shout out to all the patronies out there. All the first and last time listeners. All the hey listeners too. Y' all are welcome. All are welco them OG with the. Recipe. Recipe Shorty love for show. All right, we got a great show lined up for y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

Let's get right to it.

[A]

Let's get right to it. We got a great show lined up for you today. I keep this up, I'mma find me a skating rink. I'm going find a skating rink. Skate 22 and all that old skate key and all that.

[C]

To all my haters.

[A]

He starts the show like he finishes the show. Whatever the enough used to play. He closes the show like he starts the show. Yo, hey, enough. I'm riding with you, my brother. You always supported my records. I ain't never paid you. I don't know what's going on out there.

[B]

Joe.

[E]

That was the intro right there.

[B]

I lied. You know what I have been doing. It's very a big deal in my, you know, circle with this birthday party. Like, we talk about it every day, all day. We're excited.

[A]

Are you talking about mine?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, yeah, mine.

[B]

My birthday dinner, cuz. Everybody has to come trim like my people, you know.

[A]

Let me get these drops out the way really quickly. Who was that? And Mona, what episode is this? 951. Welcome to episode 951 of the JOE Budden Podcast, brought to you by Fueled by Power, by Prize Picks, Price Picks, gang. You. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be your host. Joe Button here with some really amazing people to my right.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Don't call her white girl. Big Damona, always working, booked and busy. Mona, how you doing?

[B]

I'm well, super excited.

[A]

We love that. We love that. Good to see you. Next to her, her Philadelphia brother, Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, what's up with you now?

[C]

Ain't nothing, man.

[A]

Good.

[C]

Life's good.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that. Normally when people say life's good, life is beast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's August now. We in August now.

[E]

After.

[A]

After we get these. These Leos out the way, we'll do what we supposed to do, man. Virgos will hold y' all down like we normally do. You know what season is approaching. Anyway, before we get to that, our good Capricorn brother. What's this nigga sign? A sag. I don't even know no more.

[C]

He's a Capricorn.

[A]

Mr. Thousand Doors and Up. King.

[D]

Oh,

[A]

Mr. King Wawa. Always building a building in D.C. when he's building, he's so big. Ish in the building is. What's up with you, Dale?

[B]

What up, dog?

[A]

How you doing?

[E]

I'm great.

[A]

Did you have some coffee to t wake up you up?

[C]

I'm up.

[A]

All right. There we go. You doing good?

[B]

I'm great.

[A]

All right. I absolutely love that. Next to him are Brent.

[E]

Wait, what you say?

[B]

I ain't mean to say that. Go ahead.

[D]

Is Ice also on the thick one list?

[B]

Don't do that.

[A]

Come on. Ice and Ish are the thick ones up here. I mean, this nigga, it's not why they get mad at me.

[B]

Formerly known as the thick one. So he know cuz he was months back.

[A]

That's a fact. That is a fact. Changed my life around. They didn't change your life around. Changed my life around. They didn't start poking myself. Start poking myself. Z boundish with Z bound. Not nothing else. Look at you. You about to make it funny. Anyway, our current. Our current potter of the month.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Big freeze in the freeze. What's good with you now? What's good? What's up, man? Nothing much. You're doing. You looking good.

[E]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[A]

Good, good. Next to him, Elmyra's finest parks. Big parks in the building. Parks. What's up with you?

[D]

Chilling, man. Feel great.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Everybody is doing good. Everybody is feeling good. Smelling good. Let's get right to it.

[C]

Thank you. By the way, Joe, part of why I'm feeling good is that thing you did to my back. Yeah. Other day.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

No, no. I don't mean it like gay. I know, but I thought when he wrapped his arms around me, pulled me close.

[E]

Hit you from the back.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Stretched you out.

[C]

Yeah. Dangling in the air when he did what?

[B]

What?

[A]

What he do to you?

[B]

To your back?

[C]

I think it's cracked.

[E]

His back cracked.

[A]

He cracked him.

[C]

Isn't that what I said?

[A]

Pulled you close. Yeah, but you saying it. You saying it like on some freaky.

[C]

No, I was just saying.

[A]

You saying it like my dick moved when I did it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I can't. I. It didn't.

[B]

You wouldn't know.

[C]

We wouldn't know.

[A]

Damn. I'm telling you. I'm telling you it didn't.

[E]

You ain't get it done.

[C]

But I'M glad I'm not.

[B]

You was not the thick one.

[C]

I'm not the thick one.

[A]

Age reach your weight limit.

[C]

Say, Joe like them thick?

[B]

Yeah, we definitely like them thick on this couch.

[C]

No, but that back crack shit you

[A]

did normally, them jeans do it for me. Oh, the shit that look like they painted on. That's why I bag a little bit. Well, I'm glad you're feeling better, Mar.

[C]

Oh, man, that shit worked.

[A]

And I'm glad I was able to. To help. Yeah.

[B]

He cracked your back.

[C]

Yeah, but he, like, he didn't tell me what he was doing. He was just, come here. Just come here. I was just kind of stretching because I stretch on the balcony and he just like, come here.

[E]

Oh, you ain't know I was coming.

[B]

He said, come here. So he tells you to come here and spins your.

[C]

He said, turn around. Then he just wrapped his arms around

[E]

me and took it.

[B]

You trust this nigga?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

Yeah, he had no choice, right?

[C]

What's he going to do? Got him.

[D]

You didn't happen to find a little Debbie cake laying around?

[A]

Ramona, you're so funny. I'm sure all of you trust me.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

New Jersey.

[A]

Jesus.

[C]

And it was consensual. Oh, and it was consensual, though.

[A]

Back up.

[C]

Just kidding.

[A]

Listen, what is most. What is most important to you beautiful people?

[C]

I know what's important to me.

[A]

Have at it.

[E]

What might that be?

[A]

What the fucking raccoon do now? Oh, shit.

[C]

Actually, he came up number 15 on the list of top podcasters.

[D]

Oh, shit.

[C]

Oh, shit. You don't wanna play with. You don't wanna play with me today?

[B]

He own one? My.

[C]

No, but they announced Forbes. Yeah, announced the top. It Was it 30?

[E]

Nah, I stopped counting at 15.

[C]

I stopped reading at 10.

[B]

It might have been 20, because that's all that matters.

[C]

The richest podcasters, the most lucratively paid podcasters in the United States of America. And it was some names on that list.

[D]

There was heavy hitters.

[C]

Number one was Joe Rogan. No surprise there. I think he came in like 80 million.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

86 million annually.

[C]

I figured. I mean, but it was. It was interesting. Listen, there were some people in there I didn't expect. Like the football players. Kelsey.

[E]

Oh, the Kelsey.

[C]

I just know they was making that much money that how could you not expect. This is how fast it was that they were at that level. That fast.

[D]

Taylor Swift on their, like, fourth episode or some.

[A]

That'll get it done. That does it.

[C]

That will get it done.

[E]

Cheat code right there.

[B]

Yeah, the Host of the Bro Brothers, right?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[D]

They're great. They're great.

[B]

Yeah, I like it.

[C]

They're absolutely great. Let's. We got to listen. Anybody got to list in front of them?

[A]

I can make it be in front of it, though. I think they've swiped it from the Internet.

[C]

I got it right here.

[A]

I think Forbes deleted it.

[E]

No, no, right here. We kept the files.

[C]

Look at the files.

[D]

Oh, here we go.

[E]

What is the top?

[B]

So, come on, guys, who's next?

[A]

Steve diary of CEO is no.

[D]

John. John Coogan and Jody Hayes Hayes TBPN at 70 million. Sheesh.

[E]

There's some numbers on that.

[A]

At 45.

[D]

Then Ashley Flowers from Crime Junkie at 42. True crime podcast. That's a good, good genre to be in.

[A]

He's all really big dog podcasts.

[D]

Yeah, for sure. Bateman and Arnett and Sean Hayes. Smartless at 37.

[A]

Mel Robbins.

[D]

The Mel Robbins Podcast at 35. Kelsey Brothers at 35. Alex Cooper at 32. Call her Daddy. Shout out to Call her Daddy.

[B]

Get to it.

[D]

Pod saves America at 28 million. Charlamagne. At 27.

[C]

Shout out to our brother Charlamagne.

[A]

Congratulations.

[C]

Is he the first black person on that list?

[A]

No, Steve was Steve diary, CEO, amazing

[D]

armchair expert at 25.

[A]

But I mean, still the second black person.

[C]

Yeah, still a big deal. Huge deal.

[A]

Good to see two black people in the top 10. Good to see black people on this list. Yes, very.

[D]

Amy Poehler, the good hang at 24 million. Emmy winner. Bill Simmons at 22 million.

[A]

Jason, there's your list. There you have it.

[D]

No, we didn't get to the Joe Button podcast at 20 million.

[B]

Rounding out the list here, what number is Joe Button?

[D]

15.

[A]

Yeah, 15.

[C]

Right after Jay Shetty.

[B]

Wow.

[E]

Congratulations.

[D]

Congratulations, man.

[A]

Congratulations.

[E]

It's part congratulations and part fucking you, because I don't know why people, when they see the Joe Button podcast or see your name, they think we all make that, dog.

[B]

It's so stupid.

[E]

I've had five people ask to borrow money. I swear to God, bro, it's the weirdest thing. I have never had nobody proud of your maturity, cuz.

[B]

You.

[E]

You a narcissist.

[D]

Oh, shit.

[B]

What the.

[C]

Your.

[E]

Your maturity.

[C]

This is a compliment.

[A]

No, no, I'm about to show

[C]

my man over there started writing fast.

[A]

And yo, everyone stacks their on Joe. But when Joe.

[B]

Look at him, the had the pen in his mouth like, bingo.

[E]

Got him, got him.

[C]

Got his ass.

[E]

Yo, you. You keep letting him downplay your bread.

[A]

I'm proud of you, yo.

[C]

Oh, seriously, cuz.

[E]

Yo, Let me tell you.

[C]

Let me tell you why. Look, look, look.

[E]

Let me tell you why.

[C]

Cuz

[E]

you are in the top 10. I'm not. And you letting them do that. And yo, the old you. Yo, the old you would have been like, huh?

[C]

Like, y' all gonna stop playing with me. The old you would have kept. Yeah. Oh, the old you would have.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I feel like 20 million was last year's number, right?

[E]

Yes, last year. There's been some growth.

[A]

Three years ago. Now, listen, I'm honored.

[E]

No. 2, I'm humbled.

[A]

Good to be in that conversation. Shout out to Forbes for the acknowledgment. We did an interview with them. Ian did an interview. I said, yeah, it's a great interview. It was a great interview. Great interview, Ian. But nah, good, good time.

[E]

Good, good time.

[A]

We had a good time. It's a good list. We got some really amazing positive things going on that I'm excited about this summer. So. Yeah.

[C]

And you had another announcement. You working with Dick now. That's normal.

[E]

Oh, now.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that too. Yeah.

[B]

You.

[A]

No, this is the right way to get the change. No, you're doing it now.

[C]

Dick Wolf, one of the. I mean, one of the greatest crime storytellers for sure in history, if not the greatest on television.

[E]

He might be number one.

[A]

He would have to be the greatest.

[C]

I don't even think it's because.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

It's not close.

[A]

I don't know who's. Who's second fair in that particular genre.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, with you, I mean, you could talk about it, but you announced that you were doing a project that starts very, very soon.

[A]

Soft. We. We. It was a soft launch. It was a quiet announce.

[C]

It always is. But they got a feel for that.

[B]

And we're always the last to know.

[C]

Just keep on checking the box.

[A]

You good dog.

[B]

Am I always the last to know? Do y' all be knowing what be going on? Do you find out on your timelines

[C]

like me and I found out on the timeline.

[E]

I didn't know nothing.

[C]

Just full of surprises. Yes.

[A]

I'm very excited. In my head, I would get up here and slam dance on the table. That's how excited I am about this Dick Wolf partnership and the show that we have coming. Crime in America is gonna be great. I don't like to do a whole lot of talking. I like to get to the work. So let's just let the work speak for itself.

[E]

Indeed.

[A]

But I will be the host of the show. I could not be more excited to partner with Dick Wolf. Headline Studios, advanced local. All of the people that, like, all are extremely credible in this space, and I'm credible in my own right. But in True Crime. Yeah. This is where I want to be. They got relationships with the field reporters. They get the stories. Yeah. Let's talk about them. Everyone. Y' all know I got a passion for true crime.

[C]

Like, when I heard you were doing something, I didn't know what it was. I was like, I hope in my brain, I was saying, I hope this isn't just an extension of what you already do.

[A]

No.

[C]

And it could. I hope he's not just doing another show. And I know you don't need to check. So I was like, this must be a good project. Then when I. I saw True Crime, I was like, oh, shit. I wouldn't. It's perfect. I wouldn't have thought of it for you, but it's perfect once I heard what it was.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm really excited about it.

[C]

Congratulations on that, man.

[B]

Yeah, congrats, Joey.

[C]

Yo, do you ever marvel at that? Like, think about where you were 10 years ago? I know the money's one thing, right. You probably have more money than you expected to have when you didn't have money. But to be. You'd be hosting a true crime show with dick wolf, like, 10 years later or 50 years. I mean, your whole world is scared. Like, how do you think about that?

[A]

I don't really know. I'm so. I'm in the moment, right. I'm so into work focus. Yeah. So I don't have time to step outside of myself and kind of marvel at the journey that it's been. But money aside, yeah. I mean, the blessing is to be doing stuff that I would do for free Facts. The blessing is to be doing things that I'm. That I'm proud to put my name on. To be doing stuff that I'm just happy about. The blessing is to get with people who are legends in the field and even them be open to a new way of doing business. Right. Because I'm an owner in this show. So to be able to negotiate that, that. To be able to pitch that, and it land with the excitement that it landed with. I tell people all the time, yo, we talk on Patreon. We'll probably talk about it later. In the creator economy. Tough decisions to be made when you people want to get paid versus owning some shit. And a lot of creators out there want to do both. They want to get paid all the money, and they want to own. Nah. So I'm excited To see all the different ways that this venture will bear fruit.

[D]

For sure.

[B]

Can I ask you a question? When are you supposed to do that? Because I experienced that a lot. When are you supposed to marvel on it? Because your head's down, you working right.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

When are you supposed to take a step back and look and say, damn? When is that appropriate?

[D]

My experience from music, it's hard to. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, I don't know you. It usually be at, like way after.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And you look back, you're like, damn, that was really dope.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, yeah.

[D]

When you're in it, you're just like, yo, got to get to the next thing. I'm locking in. I got to knock this out.

[A]

I heard Jalen Brunson talking about how he didn't take his normal vacation after season. When he took it, when he normally takes it because he wanted to be in New York City. Just to feel the energy of when winning for at least three weeks.

[E]

Smart.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And after that. Okay, now. Now he's back. Back to the work.

[E]

I was going to answer and say, yo, sometimes you'll feel it when you calm down. And typically that's vacation time.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Because that for probably about the first or second day when I'm on vacation, my phone be to the side. The fourth day I started getting the work itch.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But for the first three days, you kind of gauge where you came from. Came from vacation.

[B]

What is that?

[E]

Like, when you be relaxing, sometimes it'll hit you like, damn, I had a decent year, or whatever the case may be.

[A]

And then it's that whole.

[E]

Right.

[A]

Like I say up here all the time, you dress for. You dress for the gig that you want, not really for the gig that you have. Right. So I have this gig that I'm super excited about. We gonna kill that shit. But we did the run through. I love the run through. I looked great. My partners were happy. Sounded great. Parks and Ericson on the show with me. I got my people with me and Paul and Drew, my whole LA production team. Bless you. It's really them kind of trusting. Yeah, for sure. Kind of just trusting us one. So you in there and you know that you the host, but you know that there's potential for other things to happen here. Yeah. Like whatever they looking at. Great that you the host and great that we partnering with this. But you hit this single, there may be a double. Yeah, yeah, you hit that double. So I'm super excited. God willing. Like, I feel young and spry. My birthday is coming. I'll be 46.

[D]

Yeah, we got the flyer.

[A]

Got it. Finally put the birthday dinner flyer in the group chat.

[B]

Skinny is all that like doing your birthday? Skinny is so late.

[A]

Listen, I stepped on the scale. I'm lighter than I've been since I was maybe 28. I'm about 206.

[B]

Oh, damn. You know what I thought guys? For all of us. I think we should do weigh ins every Friday into the party. And we shouldn't eat into the party. What y' all think? Let's not eat food to the party

[A]

so we could be skinny.

[B]

Shut up. You don't have to do that.

[A]

Wing, stop. Wing stop. Delivering on Uber eats till like 2, 3 in the morning is I hit him up tacos. I hit him up down clutch.

[D]

Taco Bell.

[B]

They really deliver till 2 and it's hot at 2.

[A]

Are you still eating Taco Bell?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You like you're the last person that's.

[B]

You are not brother. Me and you. Are you crazy?

[D]

Locked in.

[E]

I eat some Taco Bell.

[B]

You a Doritos Local Supreme.

[C]

Are these sleep or I expect better from you not no dis. No, that's not what I mean. He lives in. She lives.

[B]

Stop. Just stop.

[C]

No, no, listen. You live in Delaware. There's not a lot of food options at 2 in the morning is what I'm saying. You live in New York. There's about 10 million taco spots at

[D]

2 o' clock in the morning, right?

[E]

It's a Waffle House.

[B]

In the taco spots that you experience, none of them taste like Taco Bell. That's his own Taco Bell is Taco Bell is American Taco Orange cheese on a taco. American taco. Okay. A Doritos locals. Imagine a taco. Okay. And instead of it being a regular show some what the are we even talking about this for? Somebody in here is not thinking or they don't have a brain. How about that? That insult to injury sometimes is a cool ranch Dorito. Like. Are we going to keep playing around?

[D]

Okay, nacho fries.

[B]

Can we just move on from this stupid ass conversation? Cinnamon balls with cream cheese frosting it inside warm delicacies.

[A]

Were you done reading the names on the list?

[D]

I think we got them all.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Awesome. All right now someone you want to add in? No, not at all. If we done. If we done it. No need to push it now. Let's do the independent people.

[E]

What's that mean?

[A]

Oh, there you go.

[E]

There you go.

[A]

There you go. Talk your man hit a. I was waiting for.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, come on, come on, give me the independent list.

[B]

Is he the only one on it?

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

Yes, he's the only independent on that list.

[B]

Yeah, I was thinking crazy.

[C]

That's a whole different thing.

[B]

It took a lot of patience, guys putting your head down and knowing you could do it.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Was that the only name?

[D]

I think it may have been. I don't know everyone's business.

[A]

I mean, we don't know everybody's business, so let's assume that maybe there's one other independent person. But in life.

[E]

Ain't a lot, though, on there ain't a lot.

[A]

It's not too many up there. I mean, let this be inspiration to all of you. I got my own list coming out soon. What was it? The top, the top richest, top 20 or some shit? I got the bottom hundred coming. No, for real. It's so many podcasters, and it's a lot of you at the bottom. And y' all deserve to be acknowledged and praised. You can do it, man. That's it. Go ahead, Frank.

[E]

I knew it was coming up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I knew it.

[A]

No, listen, Be humble when you win. Be humble when you lose, man. It feels good. Shout out to everybody on that list. Also, even though. Now listen, I am like. Like you said, Ice, I am getting a few texts.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm getting texts that say one thing, but I think they mean something else.

[D]

I'll get those.

[A]

Like, I'm receiving them differently.

[C]

What they saying?

[A]

Yo, super proud of you. Just seen the article. Knew you would do it.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Knew you would do it as the Y.

[E]

That's the tell right there.

[C]

I believe in you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yo, keep going. You know you're nowhere near done. I seen the article. Cad sent me the Dave Chappelle clip of him in the barber shop when he got all the money. And? And it's a new price now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

For the hair. For the haircut.

[B]

But this is the problem in Ice and Me.

[A]

That was a super funny clip. Dave was ahead of his time.

[B]

Yes, he was. We got stepped on a little. That's cool for him to get the calls, cuz he got the. We get in the calls when got the money. That's the clear. I don't know about the rest of these, cuz I'm starting to think Parks is sitting on something myself. But me and Ice don't got money. Okay, Mr. Thousand Doors made even Mr. C. Men.

[E]

You know, it's the choices of ice.

[B]

Me and ice don't have Milk. Because I don't know your a little shady with all them doctor workers.

[A]

It's all the workers.

[B]

Oh my. I'm have the reporter on the.

[D]

I didn't do it.

[B]

It's two days and you choose to do Demona Day.

[A]

It was two really bad. It was too bad,

[C]

right?

[A]

I don't know if I should be Mona day. Flip day. When should the reporter come? Almost had him come on a Thursday. Just me in here.

[B]

No, but literally I'm seeing. I even see people in comments. When that fight video came, people was in the comments like why would Mona be fighting in the store? She making millions of of dollars. I was like, no, wait, guys. No.

[D]

Only high high hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

No, bro. I'm doing hostings for 1100. Y' all got me up.

[C]

But you do like 300 of them up.

[B]

Let's move past everything. It's not going the way I want it. Me and him don't have it.

[E]

I don't have it.

[B]

He sure parks and this one to give you whatever he got. He's kind. So that dude with that information with

[A]

you will we all very blessed.

[D]

That's true.

[C]

We are. Some are more blessed than others.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

And some of us will get our blessings. The next contract renegotiation.

[E]

Some of us are the sneeze.

[B]

No, let's be some of us. Some of us work real hard. Joe's a hard worker.

[C]

Send that for your people. That should be the second text. He's on my Google alert.

[A]

That was one of the greatest alle that I can't dunk. Oh, that was a good one. I can't dunk it. I would just let it turn over.

[B]

Work harder than others, you know, and you deserve to, you know, get the fruit of your loins or whatever the fuck they say.

[D]

I don't think fruit of the loins.

[B]

Whatever. I said it. That's how I come.

[D]

But fruit.

[A]

Where do y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Where do y' all want to begin? 50 minutes in. What's important to y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

What's not important to y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

We got brand new music.

[D]

We do.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Cardi B. Let's go.

[B]

A ho never play with me once in this.

[C]

I love it.

[E]

You love it?

[B]

I love it.

[A]

I love it.

[E]

Loved it on the first listen.

[B]

Me too.

[D]

It's a good vibe. It feels like it should have been on the last album. Honestly. It's an extension of that sound and vibe. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You got that Summer Bob feeling.

[E]

Yeah. I appreciated this a couple months ago.

[B]

Exactly. Because the song of the summer is not that. And it should be.

[E]

This is. This is one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I got a question. Sh up. Is it true that you. For women. I'm at. That's why it's funny I'm asking men, but it's really for women.

[D]

YouTube, we have one.

[A]

Can. Can. Can you not flex on somebody with something they had?

[B]

You absolutely can flex on somebody.

[A]

I think you can too.

[C]

You absolutely can.

[A]

I think you can too.

[B]

I mean it's a different type.

[E]

Depends on how they. It depends on how they. You can't say why they don't have it and you can't say you flexing.

[B]

What did I say? What you say?

[E]

I say it depends on why they don't have it right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Cuz if it's something I had and I got rid of it, I didn't want that no more. That's not a flex now. But if it's.

[C]

You got.

[E]

You know, some people, they might have got left or they might have got played and they still hung up in feelings over that person or if we talking people, then yeah, you can absolutely flex.

[D]

I feel like there's so many rap songs about I fucked your girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause your picture like he was asking

[C]

women and it's absolutely a flex. But last time those are. Took her. It's just I, I her and you kept her. I took her.

[E]

That's what they be trying to. She was in love with this one. Wait a minute. Now I got her.

[C]

That's it. You ain't stunting cause you got. You got her. You stunting because you fuck.

[B]

I have a question. Why is this. Why is this a woman question, Joey.

[E]

It's not.

[A]

If you're asking me the flex part. I see more from women.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Dudes is just doing. For sharing hoes.

[E]

See, I disagree.

[A]

Fucking hoes. I very rarely see a man unless it's a Puerto Rican.

[D]

Now dudes be mad, but he talking about.

[E]

No, no, he talking about.

[A]

Slow down. One at a time, one at a time, please.

[E]

Talking about as a flex.

[A]

Yes, dudes.

[E]

Well, no dudes do that though.

[A]

But who does it much more. I see it much more from women. So to answer your question, got a record.

[E]

The first round is I just fucked your chick and some Gucci. She flip flops and he. And the nigga he was talking to kind of knew he was talking to him.

[C]

But see, to me that's like. If I answered your question, it's like, is it stunning to say I got something that you already had that's different than I Got something that you have right now, right?

[E]

The power.

[C]

I'm fucking a girl is different than I your ex.

[E]

And the way they using it is you still want this one way or another. That's the only way. I think it's a flex. I think it depends. You can't determine it's a flex.

[A]

Wait, let me add some more. For men. Like when Future said that, that. That didn't say that the other dude wasn't the girl.

[B]

Right?

[E]

But it's your bitch. Your man, you thought at least you thought. Pla's got a record called Old Lady. And that's what he say. Nigga owe me some money. You ain't gotta pay me. Keep fuck with. I'm gonna fuck your old lady. He said, I don't want your side hoe. I want your main chick. The one you call bae, the one you in love with. Like it's because it's her quote.

[C]

No, but that was a good one, too.

[E]

But the point is, is you really wanted. You want this one. See, but it's something that you want.

[C]

Even with your.

[E]

That's where the flex comes.

[A]

But even with your plies line. For me, that's a spite fuck, a revenge fuck. Which for me is different than a flex.

[C]

Right?

[A]

I'll just tell you how I interpret.

[E]

But the dude, it could be a spike fuck for the girl. Like, I'm mad, I'm fucking somebody or whatever. But the dude I'm throwing out of your face. Cause you still want it. You can't have it. Cause I got it.

[A]

I want to know who she's talking about. See, for me, this is about me. Maybe the fourth song that I've heard her say. Why do y' all keep trying to flex on me with my old.

[B]

I think that is she talking to

[A]

them chicks that Offset is running around with. Stefon Diggs.

[B]

I think when it comes to a line like that, especially if you keep hearing it, that bitch talking about that's running around the Bronx with Tommy. All y' all that think you got one that I had, it's like, you can't do that.

[E]

You know, Cuz what happens is with the girls and the N do it too.

[B]

I know it.

[E]

They think they on your level now because they hitting something that you was with. And that's what she like. Yo, that's not a flex. Like you still ain't here with me. See, I think it's different for men and women. Cause the women typically leave the dudes, right? Dudes will get caught doing some bullshit. The woman Will leave. So Shorty, I left him alone. You not flexing on me. Cause I left him. If it was up to him, he'd still be with me. That's the flex. It ain't that you can't determine the flex. Cause you might be laughing at something. I don't even want, like, good written. So I'm glad she stopped calling my phone when she met you. So you're not flexing on me.

[B]

All right.

[E]

That's my own.

[A]

That's my only question. I love this song.

[B]

She looked good.

[E]

Yes, she did.

[A]

Yes, she. She looks great. Took that ass out, yo.

[B]

Yeah, she took a little.

[D]

She took some ass out.

[A]

She took some ass out, yo.

[C]

Shout out.

[A]

Shout out to women doing what they gotta do on their health journey. Them legs be legging my well, I'm talking about women being healthy. Shout out to them for being able to. To be, you know, live a little longer. Get confusing, though. You. I follow you on the gram with one body. Two years later, you done switched it up on me. Now I got to. I'll be looking at my phone. Who the is this?

[C]

Have y' all seen any of that in real life? Like. Like people who've gotten the ass reduction or gotten the implants or whatever? Definitely. I seen on the Internet a lot, but I ain't seen a lot in person people. I seen a few breast reductions, but I a.

[E]

You know, I've seen it.

[A]

Yeah, I've seen Cardi. Love the song. I'm anxious to see if that means that the. Is a new album, EP or just new music being worked on.

[D]

Yeah, I'd be interested.

[E]

Yeah, I wonder where that would live.

[C]

Y' all heard that new thing out of Philly?

[E]

I did.

[A]

I heard it.

[D]

New.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Yes. Don't do that.

[C]

New name.

[D]

It just threw me for.

[C]

Y' all used to dreams of nightmares.

[D]

I get that.

[C]

But this is Nightmares of Dreams.

[D]

When I hit play it, I was like, wait.

[C]

This shit is fire, though.

[D]

It's not bad.

[C]

Shout out to Meek. This shit is fire.

[D]

It's weird to remix your biggest Olga.

[A]

Let's let it play. And then when it's over, I'm gonna agree with Park.

[C]

Yeah, I've been busting out AP back when y' all was rocking rollers. Y' all only knew about Jay Z till y' all seen me and my homies. I was trying to chase my dream. I had like 20 bands with a 40. I had a new Glock with a Chevy. Got my weed off. I'm ready. It was a seesaw with that Trap but I bounced back I'm heavy It was a seesaw with that rat Me and Reed going back at I spent night stopping this all my blood tears got t. I cut Kazuo off, he ran I cut Bra off, he kept hating I can't be around no jealous I'm really the motivation I can't be around no Tell up your location I get money. You pop that and help get people. Wait a minute.

[B]

Hey.

[C]

I got like 80 in it. I'm too rich to fake with you I had out in Paris so I love I'm playing with I'm trying to wait till the beat switch yeah. This getting really. And we trying to survive we fighting like when we outside no, it's a G. Yeah.

[A]

I ain't going to lie.

[C]

This is fire. Yo, yo.

[B]

It's not bad.

[D]

It's just weird. Weird, because who has ever redone their biggest song?

[B]

Puff Daddy biggest song?

[C]

No, but people redo their songs all the time.

[D]

You can't do a cover.

[C]

Yeah. That's what I feel like he's doing here. That's the energy is on what I'm saying.

[E]

Like, I just feel like it's an update. Yeah.

[C]

That's what I feel like Jay Z did. Originators, you know? You do? You do.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

I'm. I agree with y' all on the biggest record part. I'm saying sometimes you just got some nostalgic shit that you want to do again. This shit just happened to be his biggest record. I'm still with it, but I feel

[B]

like the difference with this is his biggest record happens to be a big

[D]

record for the fucking classic.

[B]

Yeah. So it's like, you don't fuck with that one. You know what I mean? Like, that's why it's a little weird. But if you are going to fuck with it, this is probably the best of the sound. Thank you. Because it sounds good, but it is weird.

[E]

We can tell the truth. I mean, even though it sounds good, Meek is trying to recap the lightning in a bottle.

[B]

Like a money grab type like this. This.

[E]

I don't even think it's a money grab. But you got to think, look at. I'm independent now. Clearly. Just from some of the tweets. I might have been having a hard time getting eyes and ears on certain things. You know, he dropped projects that kind of didn't do anything for him, so. All right, let me go catch this one right here. That I know y' all know, make something that when y' all hear it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

So I'm trying to play of familiarity with you.

[C]

And see, that's. I think it's more that. I think it's like. It's a dope track, and I can make some money off it. Independent. I don't think you're trying to catch lightning in the bottle. You're not gonna get another hit. No remixing your own. That. That. I agree. That's why. That's why I'm not mad at it. Cuz I don't think he's chasing the hit. I think he just want to do some dope.

[E]

See, I think, like, when it makes.

[A]

To me.

[E]

To me, this is no different than an artist taking their biggest album and then coming back years later and doing two.

[D]

I don't. I think it's very different.

[E]

I'm just saying you're doing that.

[C]

It.

[E]

It don't. It could be night and day, but I'm. I'm trying to capitalize off of. When y' all see this name with the two next to it, huh? Y' all know what I did here. So you, you, you. It's like, set the expectation already.

[D]

Cool. But why not just put a different beat to it? A similar. A complimentary.

[A]

Oh, let me get to the beat switch. Let me get to the beat switch.

[E]

For the people, y'.

[A]

All.

[E]

Y' all looking.

[C]

We putting killers with killers. We.

[E]

Yo, and to be clear, right, that it's not bad. It's not bad rapping, dog. I don't get all that. Why he doing.

[C]

Doing it?

[E]

What was the purpose? What was the motivation? That motherfucker's rapping.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

No, he ain't rapping like you wrapped on the first one.

[C]

Nobody's rapping. I mean,

[D]

that's the thing when you recreate a classic of your own. If you don't do it as good as you did the first time, it's. It comes off a little jar.

[E]

I don't think anybody.

[C]

I don't disagree with that. I just don't. I'm just not mad at it.

[A]

Can the rapper talk?

[D]

There we go.

[C]

Oh, go ahead.

[D]

Rapper?

[E]

Yeah. Is a rapper in here?

[C]

I thought he's a podcast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Enough of y'.

[D]

All.

[A]

Oh, God,

[C]

pardon me.

[A]

I agree with some of the things that y' all are saying, especially freezing parks. I'm a huge Meek fan. Right. So he's never gonna rap bad, so he starts at good raps. Yeah, these are good raps. These ain't raps that you have in mind when you saying, yo, pull up the dreams and nightmares beat. Like, these are Just good raps on the Dream tonight. It's not the same. Nowhere near the same level of intensity. His delivery, even. That might be a mistake.

[E]

I don't.

[A]

The change in the flow. He ain't said nothing here that. Listen, dog, I was in Sin City when Dreams of Nightmares was out.

[E]

Yeah, Anywhere.

[A]

When that record was out, I was out.

[D]

I was still outside when that picnic that went crazy.

[A]

Yeah, but if you were there when it first dropped, the entire club place you were in was on couches in the bar. They was waiting for that, dog. It was a. Yo, we could say. We could say the words. We ain't heard nothing here that's going to make somebody do that. I can rewind it for you. You ain't hurt. That's not. That's not here right now.

[E]

You think that was the intent, though?

[B]

My mom knows.

[E]

I think he went for.

[A]

I think there should be one of the Even. It should be one of those lines in there by mistake. If the dreams of nightmare beat come on. If the dream and nightmare be. Come on. You should bump into one of those that the DJ could cross fade out and we could hear this. You just rapping over this and this. No, if he did this in 2030.

[E]

Cool.

[D]

Yeah, it worked.

[A]

2035.

[C]

Cool.

[A]

See? Nah, we was dead. Nah, Too soon. Too soon.

[E]

I agree with it. Too soon. Because when I look, I said, maybe this is like anniversary. So I said, let me go back and find out exactly when Dreams and Nightmares came out.

[A]

That was 2012.

[E]

2012. So it's not even an anniversary. It ain't 15. It ain't 10. So I. I just think, yo, they know this. It's kind of almost like a. I'm gonna call it a shortcut, but they know.

[A]

Fast track. Fast track. Not a shortcut. Better word. Better word.

[C]

But a fast track.

[A]

A way to expedite.

[D]

It's weird.

[A]

Expedite some things, but I do. I agree with. I do think it's just a little. Now he. I want to get to the beat switch because the beat does. And it's a hard beat. It's a. Yeah, it's a hard beat.

[D]

It's a hard beat. He's rapping good. It's just weird for artists to do the remix of their best song.

[C]

I was trying to track. My cousin told me he won't give me no drugs. I love my cousin. I thought tweaking. I get that weed and like, the whole city are the real saying. They believe in me. Like I'm a lighter. I'm tripping On I put VBS in the acting like you press me about some money that puts up please to me I just got hated up back

[B]

in the Maybach with TVs in it

[C]

I got my cake up my stay

[B]

up like a breeze to me Y'

[C]

all boy better wake up I'm in the gym and ain't no lean in me Lean with me and I bought my team with me. She a came with him but when she left she trying to leave with me Plead with me Crip with me

[A]

Bl saying he up Let me ask y' all a question. And I like this Flo this pocket he about to get in right here if you're meek. Cuz I think that this. This song has the biggest impact at a Meek show somewhere. At a Meek show. Not. Not a festival. Somebody bringing them out this right, because I have to imagine you did this, wanting to perform it somewhere, and you have your classic. So my question to y' all is, do you play this before Dreams of Nightmares?

[D]

That's the other part. Yeah.

[A]

Or do you play it after intro?

[D]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

That's my question.

[C]

That's a great question.

[B]

They're going to play Dreams and Nightmares. They're not going to play this at all.

[D]

You walk out, you can't play this.

[E]

You might can't play it at all.

[C]

No, you got to play this first.

[E]

Or you might just. You might just play it first.

[A]

And if you play it first, I

[E]

think you might do the switch then you take some.

[A]

You take some of the oomph off of when your joint comes on.

[E]

I can see him.

[A]

Yo, dog.

[C]

When.

[A]

When Dreams and Nightmares come on. Oh, the stadium is. Yo, this is what we've been waiting for, right? We can ad lib.

[D]

This picnic was shake. The ground was shaking when he did that outside in a forest.

[A]

I remember when. When he leaked that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[E]

When.

[C]

When he leaked it.

[A]

He leaked it like a single.

[E]

Yeah, I remember that.

[B]

I feel like it go right back to what Parks is saying. Like, no matter what, it's just.

[C]

If you.

[B]

You're never going to do it good enough. So it's just one of them songs that just get lost. Like, it's too big of a song to touch, in my opinion.

[D]

And especially, like, it's kind of follow the same blue. I can maybe figure out something in my brain that makes me like it. If it was like a complete flip, you know what I'm saying? If it was like an acoustic version, damn near or something like that or like a whole different. It's damn near the same shit.

[B]

Yeah, it is. It just sounds better. Could he have put a feature on it or that would have fucked it up too.

[E]

No. No, I would not.

[A]

Like, I don't think another voice should ever rap on this besides me. I agree. I agree.

[C]

I was sitting there thinking too about like. I'm still trying to wrap my brain about other people have done. No one's done it with the biggest song that I could think of. But I'm thinking about people leaving. Like Nas with New York State of Mind Part two. I'm just thinking about people.

[D]

Nas did it with his lead single from Hip Hop is Dead and the Untitled Album. Both had the inad Deeda sample on it. Yes. Or I think that's what it was. Yeah.

[C]

And they did New York City.

[D]

That was weird too.

[C]

Yeah. And New York State of mind part 2. I guess my point is maybe this just comes and goes and we don't think about it. That's what I think. It might just be one of the things like. Like I don't. When I hear New York State of my. I don't think about New York State of My Part two. I just think I was thinking about the original.

[D]

I do. That beat was. He just used the same intro drum and then it went to a whole different beat.

[C]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[D]

Which is. I mean if he did something like

[E]

that, I wouldn't have been.

[C]

You like it more either way. Point taken. I. I just.

[A]

And as a. As listen, Meek is on his socials previewing music. So he got heat.

[D]

Yeah, he's just trying.

[A]

It feels like he has heat in the tough. So as a Meek fan, I was. I was waiting for the new heat.

[E]

Oh no. Like I look at it, if that's the case, I'm a. I'm a rock boy. ISIS point. Which is if I got all these songs in the tuck, let's just say. Because he know a hit when he hear a hit. I would think so if I got all these songs in the tuck. Let me get y' all re acclimated to me real, real quick. Throw this out to now. Get the buzz going before I release the heat. That's not a bad rollout for somebody that's independent. Why not though? Look, that's not a bad rollout. Think about it. He dropped the last Flamers tape. I ain't see nobody talking about it. Yeah, and that's not a shot at me. I mean, I came in and spoke

[A]

know we had to get it either. That's the thing didn't know how to get it.

[E]

So look though, now I'm dropping this. Look how much time we just here true. Have just spent talking about this.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

That's what I'm saying. I want to.

[A]

Well, it's too many mics on this podcast.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Like there's a lot of mics.

[E]

Use the familiarity just to get people. It's going to make people listen who might not even have listened because again, a lot of people, if it's is not putting my face paws from a playlist or something. Independents have a hard time getting people to listen to their music right now. So yeah, I'm gonna go with what y' all know. I'll let y' all hear the little teaser. Oh, I'm back. Flip the name. People just gonna say, let me hear what he did.

[A]

And again, audience, I'm compromised. Right? Don't take my word yet. I gotta hear this song in speakers. I live with my girl, I 4 in the morning, I come on the toilet playing shit from the iPhone. Like let me go listen to it the way I'm supposed to listen to it and I'll be back. I'm not mad at it, but would I have done it? Hell no.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Remix in 2016 would have been kind of weird.

[A]

A Pump it up remix today would

[E]

be a little weird, but at least it's.

[B]

Yes, it is for him to do it. It would be weird.

[A]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What?

[E]

Not if you're rapping. Rapping. No, it ain't.

[C]

If you.

[B]

He always.

[C]

And you own all of it now. Yeah. This Dick Wolf show better start with Pumping up part two. Like if you get paid off that,

[E]

I think saying some on that Pump it up part two, I think it goes crazy. That's it right there.

[C]

I'm not talking about good taste right now. I'm talking about the, the. The financial.

[E]

He don't own dreams and nightmares.

[C]

So that's it.

[E]

Yep, that's it. So yeah, I'm going to do this.

[B]

That's the point I thought you were making like, yo, I'mma spend this bacon. I'mma make the bread this time. That's what I thought you were saying from the door.

[D]

Yeah, I thought you were saying that earlier too.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

If you don't watch, I get it.

[A]

But yeah, part of the month. Cracked it.

[B]

Crack the case.

[A]

No, for real. When Mark ever told us of music fact like that, like, Mark don't deserve it.

[B]

You just ended the combo. You ended the debate and that's a good.

[C]

That's the Sign of a good podcast. Just ending the conversation. That's.

[B]

We always say this nigga is, like, indestructible with these.

[C]

With this.

[A]

And we continue the theme of Meek dropping music when Wale dropped drops music.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that Wale is all right, too.

[E]

I like that.

[A]

This is the song that W previewed that everybody was waiting for. And this is with homeboy El.

[D]

Yeah, I think I say his name different every time.

[A]

I don't. I'm not sure what his pronouns are. So there you have it.

[D]

There you have it.

[A]

I think it's El Salute. Actually, this kind of. Kind of proves the point that I was making a little bit.

[E]

What?

[A]

There's a way to get in your bag and it just not be the bag we have. Like, don't this sound like a W record?

[E]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Doesn't it just feel like a W record? Yeah. He don't have to go grab the fucking Guapolis beat and do a new verse to the Leon Thomas hook. He don't have to go grab the Tony. Tony. Tony sample and put a new A. I think they missed this one, cuz as an artist, you feel like that a lot. Well, not Meek's not feeling like that with that, but you could.

[E]

I think Mike might feel like that, that they missed this one again.

[D]

Missed what one?

[E]

No previous records. So now he says, come out and do this. I'm talking about previous record. Can we get. Hey, this nice right here.

[A]

You know why Wale girl records are so funny to me now? Cuz he tried to come out and be public with that one girl, and that lasted for like a week and a half. She was nice, too.

[B]

Hey, feeling lost. Take off.

[E]

I feel nauseous. I should have been cautious putting you in my song.

[B]

Somebody healing from there.

[E]

I've been living through the don't really live here no more that was running through her.

[B]

My mission now is just money, cuz loyalty's really tough.

[E]

I'm growing into a tr.

[A]

The boy's good, man. Yeah.

[E]

And I think for me, I think Shorty throwing for a loop too spun him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Say more. Come on, tell me more. No, I want to get in on this. I want to get in on this.

[E]

I don't have any tea. If you go from the last album, the one he just recently released was. Is amazing. Everything is a lot. Yeah, he got some little issues with it with a main one. Even in this.

[A]

Ready to be public with no Damn girl.

[E]

It was on the. Yeah, it was on the last one. And now he spilled it over to the New shit. It's still going all.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was. They were. They was cute for that little 11 days. Shout out to Wale, man. He went and wrote a poem about her.

[C]

He made some great music about them 11 days.

[A]

He did. Sometimes you just gotta somebody so they could be amused for your next song or album, man. I ain't mad at it. Shout out to Wale. Is there anything else in new music that we need to get to Rhapsody Dropped.

[D]

A neo soul record. That's a little bit interesting here.

[C]

Oh, I missed it.

[A]

I'd like to hear it. A neo soul record.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

It gives me very much d' Angelo vibes. Apple Dropped Juice. Denom Porter produced.

[A]

Hey, Nani.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Shout out to Nani, man. Miss you and I love you.

[C]

Hey.

[A]

Hey. This sound like Solange about to come on. Is it rapid?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Wow. Very Dangero.

[D]

Made me kind of say it. Listen to it. I immediately thought of d'. Angelo.

[C]

I see why.

[A]

Wow. Get out of here.

[D]

She don't rap it all. It's all singing.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

She sound amazing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Album is coming up in three weeks.

[D]

Is it?

[C]

It's called God Got an Afro and three and God Got an Afro and gold Hoops. This is one of the songs.

[E]

Got an Afro and gold Hoops.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I love rap, so I'm excited to do 21 tracks.

[A]

I like the Switch. Yeah.

[E]

Just as far.

[D]

I'll be curious to see if she does that.

[A]

I didn't know she could do that.

[E]

Smooth as I.

[A]

It either.

[E]

Something different.

[A]

No, that's smooth as hell. Yeah, that's he. Shout out to Rhapsody.

[D]

And shout out to Natu Man. Super underappreciated producer.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Shout out. All right, now it's time for my favorite part of the show. Prize picks. All right, the summer of soccer is in the rear view, but you can still make all of your summer sports picks right here on Prize Picks. Preseason football is kicking off. Malik Neighbors looks great. And the WNBA and baseball are heating up, throwing big tennis slams and fight nights. And there's no better place for all your summer sports picks than Prize Picks, America's number one sports picks app. Prize Picks is really easy and simple to play. All you have to do is select two or more players, look at their projected stat line and pick more or less for your chance to win big. And our Ish Loser picks of the week, Ish is going with Sabrina Ionesco for more than two and a half. Three pointers made Chelsea Gray. Why do I feel like I know like mad white girls named Chelsea Gray. Chelsea Gray for more than 12 and a half. I said just know them, not that should you do. Chelsea Gray for more than 12 1/2 points and Alyssa Thomas for more than 22 points and rebounds. Don't forget if you download the prize picks app right this very second and pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty pretty, pretty pretty. Please use promo code code JBP. You get $150. Pew Pew, Pew pew pew. When you play Your very first $5 lineup, that's 3x what they were giving you before. Hopefully they do it to me as well in a few months. Only on prize picks, the official partner of the NBA. Now back to music. Back to music. Back to music. 38 Special no longer on a Davies record, correct? Correct.

[E]

Davies dropped his new project when he initially put the track list out. There was a record featuring snoop dogg and 38 special and then the album dropped and Special has been removed.

[D]

I mean no surprise there. They're.

[E]

I didn't understand. There's like this outrage over that. I don't see why.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

What did y' all think was going to happen?

[D]

Right. No.

[A]

Yeah. You.

[E]

You dissing my mans. I'm going to take you off the album. Goes back to what Joe was just saying before going to start happening now because you playing with people that have relationships.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And that are loved.

[A]

Somehow people think I'm biased in my reporting of this.

[D]

I mean I spoke special and there was some elements that I could understand why he would think that you were biased because there were some things said to him that I didn't see from Jim's side specifically that I understand why he took it. Why he took it there. Yeah, I do.

[A]

Really?

[E]

I didn't know that. Care to expound or. No?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

He says. I think one of Jim's people made a dissault talking about his dead brother. Yeah. No, no, sorry.

[E]

One of Jim's people did that.

[D]

Yeah. But I think Jim posted or something. I don't know the full details. And Jim also posted some. Some things that seemed a little bit threatening online. I could see why. Yes.

[C]

I saw that later too. I'm not leaving this to rap comment that Jim made.

[A]

So I mean they've been threatening him the whole time.

[D]

Yeah. I just understand why you would take it a little bit further, I guess.

[A]

In the words of Ice, my commentary is only coming from MC Brain. If I don't think that you are emcee or capable emcee or worthy of my. I'm never taking my hard earned time and energy to put pen to pad for you, that's me. I look at Special like he's on that level of. Of MCing.

[D]

I got it.

[A]

I heard you say Jim Jones don't even get in this because you ain't that. I acknowledge that. Let's keep him there. Let's keep them there.

[E]

Not just that. Like I'm with matching energy. Like if. If somebody says something about me as a man, I'm gonna say something about them as a man. If somebody talk about. About violence and if that's your bag, you could talk about violence. You understand what I'm saying? Now the dead brother part, I didn't know. That's a different thing. Yeah, but my thing is when you bring somebody else's wife, they kids like that into the water, it gets muddy for me. So if you cracking on my clothes, let's crack on your clothes. Because I really heard him cracking on his clothes. And that's all I had heard his outfit. So at that point I was like, wow. You go from clothes to. To that. If he was talking about his dead brother, it definitely changes a little bit of things.

[A]

But

[E]

I just believe that we should stay here. Like the family and all that other shit is a different arena.

[A]

The women and kids like, to your point, is always held in a different regard than your dead homies. Now Spech might have put him in the same. Not dead, dead brother.

[D]

That's different.

[E]

It's different.

[D]

That's different.

[E]

That's true.

[D]

Sorry, gloves are off at that point.

[A]

But not if my man says it,

[D]

but if you, if you post it.

[E]

So I just.

[D]

He.

[A]

He gets. He gets to take it however he

[D]

wants to take it.

[A]

That part is not up for debate. He did it. He wrote out. He's standing in his decision making, which is all you can ask for, people.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

In a beef. I just keep saying your dog. In the future there's going to be a verse that you want from somebody that you're not going to get and you're not going to know why.

[E]

It might not be a verb.

[A]

In the future there's going to be a show.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

That you can't book at a venue. And you're not gonna. You're not gonna know why. Like it's the creation of enemies with people that have long lasting relationships.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Fat Joe has been in this since 92. Rough riders have been in this since have long they been it. Roc Nation is rather new, but it's still ROC Nation. I mean if I think hard enough, I could add some other clicks into this. So you at war with all of them. If you down for that, then who the am I? Go ahead, shoot.

[D]

You just.

[E]

You making the road harder.

[C]

But you know what?

[E]

That's all the crazy. Is it? It started over nothing. That's a lot of what you got to wrap your head around, too. It's. It started over something so trivial, and now it's here. Where brand deals are being affected. People's physical guy hopefully won't take.

[D]

Hopefully it stays.

[E]

But, yo, it started overnight.

[A]

What do you mean hopefully? What are y' all talking about? We dising the. The dead brother. We did wife.

[E]

I don't want to put it in.

[B]

Yeah, but it's already.

[A]

It's there. You didn't. That's there. I feel like I'm one of the mature people with a. With a microphone to come in here and say, hey, if you do X, it leads to Y. We don't need that. We don't want that. You successful. You successful. Let's just have Bone thugs in harmony. Like, nobody else is gonna say that. Everybody else is gonna come out. Yeah, kill a man, Dis her man. Fuck the wife and fuck. Yeah, get him, get him, get em. Nah, nah. But I don't think I'm biased. I don't think I'm biased. I ain't got a relationship with Kissing Jim and all these niggas to ass. Niggas can't diss him. I'm a rapper first.

[E]

Right.

[A]

I'm a rapper first. Believe me, if Special would have dropped some heat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'd have been talking to the Joe and Jada podcast for the next month.

[B]

But.

[A]

And then there's that. But to me, he didn't. So it just made it. It just made it a little tough. And let me just say, Special's not banned from up here. I see that headline going around. Special's not banned from up here. I did say, because he did the wife thing, that I'm gonna keep it cute for a little bit because that's just how I sleep at night, right? Like, I'm not one to reward certain behavior. Cause I think that sends the wrong message. I think anybody could sit in a room and say, fuck somebody's loved one. And then you fucking creepy podcasters come out the blue trying to get clicks and engagement on some shit that I think is real life for people. So that's just not who I am. And that's not how I go to sleep at night. But whenever this breeze is over, I would absolutely love to speak to 38 Special. But again, like, if when Pusha and if. When Pusha and Drake was going back and forth, if I was super fly with 40, I would have never interviewed Push.

[C]

Right?

[A]

No, you can't say, my man is about to die and his heart is on its last. No, I can't now have you up

[E]

here and say, can't platform you now.

[A]

Hey, man, about that. Yeah, I think that looks nuts from a podcaster pov. I get that from a podcaster pov.

[E]

Let me. Let me ask Parks, you may know, is there anybody that could intervene and kind of, like, lower the temperature a little bit? Even if y' all keep shooting at each other on record or whatever? But, like, probably, it's certain lines crossed.

[D]

I think that guy right there over there would be one of the people that could.

[A]

Yeah, there's a bunch of people involved that could really debt a beef. DNY could debt a beef if they wanted debt. It's too many people involved that could really debt a beef. Pistol Pete, Cadetta beef. Fucking.

[E]

I'm just freestyling this particular one. I know there's people that could get on the phone with whoever and make some big sketta.

[A]

Be like, there's people behind the scenes that are respected enough that they could call anybody in music and have a conversation.

[E]

I just don't want to see no

[A]

now especially pick up and be like, ah, you didn't ask.

[D]

No, I don't think you'd be on that.

[A]

I don't think so either. I don't think so either. But I think a conversation could be

[E]

somebody should then, like, because this just got potential.

[C]

I got a bad vibe from you.

[A]

I don't want to hear no more bars. I don't want to hear no more bars from either side about it. I definitely don't want to hear another Jim Jones diss from special. I don't want to hear Jim Jones diss from anybody. I don't think I said I don't want to hear Jim Jones diss nobody. I don't. Sorry, Jim. Love you, but I don't. And Kiss ain't about to diss nobody. So wake me up for the popcorn. Yeah, like, when we get a. I

[D]

think it's time to let it all die.

[A]

I agree.

[D]

Let it go.

[A]

I agree. I agree. I agree. Yeah. That's the end of my bias reporting. I do have a project that I bumped into late, but this is my girl, so fuck y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I'm playing it. My girl Remy. Not Remy Ma. Not Remy Ma. R and B, Remy.

[D]

I don't know if I know R

[A]

and B. Remy R and B Remy. If I could find it here while you're looking.

[D]

Corrupt and Battle Cat dropped the tape. I haven't listened to it yet, but I'm excited to listen to it cuz Battle Cat is another one of those super slept on production.

[E]

One of my favorite west coast and

[D]

Corrupt is a slept on MC and. And I can't wait to check it out as well.

[E]

It's fire.

[D]

Is it?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, that's part of your conglomerate. My bad. I forgot

[E]

I'm. What I want to play.

[D]

Ariana Grande dropped some too. I ain't listening to it yet, but that's a very long callback.

[A]

I hope she ate.

[D]

Me too. Me too.

[A]

Yeah, I hope she's eating.

[D]

Oh, you mean like food?

[A]

I mean food. Like a happy meal. Like a bowl of some lasagna, some rigatoni, hopefully with sausages in it. Like she should get a meal. Oatmeal. That's all I'll say on that. But I love Ariana Grande. All right, so Remy is a young lady who put out a project called Left on Red. I played it a few months ago where the album cover was her and it was all red and it was a very quick listen. 18 minutes.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

So now she's back with an EP called Fade to Blue. This is already R E M I.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

It's called, it's called Fade to Blue. Now the album cover is Blue. It's five songs. It's 12 minutes. It's all heat. I do love, I love the short, like really, really, really, really, really short projects. If you're going to deliver on all five songs.

[D]

Listen, I think if you're an artist that isn't like super big yet, doing anything above like 30 minutes.

[A]

I'm with you.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Is like. I don't know if you should. I'm not. Obviously everyone's free to do whatever the they want, but with the up and cominging artist. Give me something short and sweet.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

[D]

Especially if you're gonna do like two or three a year or some shit. Yeah, I don't need four hours of music from. From everybody.

[A]

This is that. This is Remy. This is called pointing over to turn.

[D]

This is hard.

[A]

And the last project sounds just like this. Talk about establishing your sound. This whole project sounds just like this. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[B]

Maybe we could talk it out.

[A]

I love that women apologizing in the record. More of that. Don't just leave it to Anita Baker. There you go. That is Remy. R E M I. That Record is called Point and Overturn. Sound good off her project. Fade to Blue is out now. Came out last week or the week before that. I don't know. Everything's a blur with July, but shout out to Remy. That's all I got. Music. It's a good project. It's a good project if you're into that. Check it out. Absolute heat on there. I wouldn't steer you wrong.

[C]

I mean. Interrupt music adjacent, please. A l Wayne hit the stage the other day.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Shout. Shout to way.

[C]

Shout out to Wayne. One of the greatest to ever do it. He was absolutely wonderful.

[A]

You work on that one and.

[C]

No, no, but he. He came out and there. There was some commentary on his. His appearance. Ice you break it down. You powdered him up.

[B]

Go ahead.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

With a burden.

[E]

So the first. The first thing I saw people saying was, hey, this a clone. That's not Wayne, cuz. Where are the tattoos? Cuz he's tatted up all. But you know you can see him.

[A]

Yo, I'm so stupid. What happened? I didn't even think of that. I didn't even think of that.

[E]

You ain't see that?

[A]

I did not think of that at all. Cuz you couldn't see tattoos really holy.

[C]

But see that close up.

[A]

There was no tattoos.

[C]

But see, I didn't trust.

[D]

You can see. You can see it. It's just a blurry ass video.

[E]

He had tattoos.

[A]

He did.

[E]

They like, they bl. Like he had.

[A]

Like they blended. This is like. This is like what s bad in Shazam. Ain't nobody cloning Wayne my yo.

[C]

He not one of the global elites. Like, what are you talking about?

[A]

Where the hell do you see a tattoo? I do not see tattoos on it.

[D]

They're faded.

[A]

I see they faded tattoos, bro.

[E]

What's wrong with you?

[A]

Oh, he must have got the cream the be using.

[B]

Wait a minute. When y' all say the tattoos are faded? Y' all talking about his arms? Cuz it's left on his chest. There's nothing on his chest.

[E]

They on there.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He got the cream when want to get rid of their baby daddy name from their spine.

[E]

Oh, my God, bro.

[B]

That. I did not think of that, Chris. Yeah, I don't know, guys. Are we playing games? This is not.

[A]

Yeah, they playing. They playing.

[B]

Okay. He went to the same ab doctor and I don't like it.

[E]

Yeah. Do we think these abs are real?

[D]

Oh, you think he got a job done?

[C]

Do we think these are real or

[E]

he just worked out?

[B]

Are y' all serious?

[C]

You think he's working on his core a lot.

[A]

Yeah, you know, core, no arms, no legs, no knives.

[E]

I ain't gotta do that. Just want this.

[A]

Okay, everybody mute up for the person that wants to tell the truth. Go ahead.

[B]

The ad he went to the same guy that Drake went to. And I don't think there's nothing wrong with purchasing abs. I passed on mine when I went and got a tummy tuck. I could have got a two pack for. For two grand or something, but I didn't want. It's not. Y' all. Come on, can we. It's like a beer belly under them.

[E]

That's the crazy.

[B]

You know what? Skinny got that little belly. It's like a salamander, like the geico lizard. When you get the little. It's like a pregnancy belly. When you bony. You got skinny fat. Yes, the skinny fat. And then got the. Oh, my God, the gym.

[E]

Vinny Chase.

[B]

You just gonna let that slide?

[A]

I'm trying to just get through the topic in a mature way.

[C]

This. I will say. You can have a belly and stuff happens underneath because people think you can work your stomach off by exercising or by doing abs.

[B]

You do that in the kitchen.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. So. So you can have a strong core and a.

[A]

If y' all don't take that shit to the Peloton podcast somewhere and tell the fucking truth. We don't give a fuck about exercises.

[C]

Hold on. I think it's surgery, but I'm just saying I don't want people out there thinking you can't have a belly with ass that looks fake.

[E]

You have like something else. Like his arms.

[A]

Skinny.

[E]

Everything is.

[C]

It look like fake to me. He's skinny.

[E]

Y' all mad skinny with abs, right?

[B]

But that's.

[E]

He got a belly too, though.

[B]

It's a belly under the fucking pack.

[C]

Ish.

[A]

You saying you think that's really him?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Like his body no work.

[B]

I bet you do.

[C]

I do. Ish is in the gym five days week. Do you see people who look like that in the gym?

[B]

Ish in the gym five. Five days a week?

[C]

Yes. Mad skinny.

[E]

That don't. You could be slim.

[B]

So why is he so thick on the sides like that in the pancreas area? Why is he so.

[E]

That look like on Halloween when the kids want to be the Ninja Turtle and you buy this and he's like, strap around them.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[E]

That look like. Is he wearing like.

[B]

Let me see what you looking at, dog?

[E]

When you get that. That V right there. Were you talking about the poke out

[B]

right before the V. Nah. What I'm talking about, y', all, I've never seen on a human. He got these big battery packs on the side. I don't know what the. What that. What that part is supposed to be. And I am a surgery sister. Wayne. I'm not hating. I'm just saying that ain't right. You. What you got to do is he should gain a little weight. He should do some cardio. He should build some muscle, then slide in the six to eight pack you bought from the boy in Turkey.

[C]

You know that. That looks like I'm looking at clothes. Those are fake abs.

[B]

Those are fake abs, hands down. Then he had the nerve to get an eight pack.

[A]

Ask AI. I'm not listening to you.

[D]

Oh, yeah, Come on. For us.

[B]

Let me ask.

[E]

Oh, man, y' all ain't parks.

[C]

Let's just assume.

[A]

What I will say is this.

[B]

Are Little Wayne's abs real?

[A]

Oh. Oh, okay. Look at what we've come to.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, they appear to be real. Lil Wayne has been photographed shirtless for many years. His ABD abdominal definition has been consistently visible rather than appearing only in edited photos or. Or a single performance.

[A]

And that's why you can't always talk to AI, because I seen Lil Wayne in Skip Bailey's house not even five weeks ago, and I said a prayer.

[B]

Look at this. Look what they.

[A]

We was just praying over Wayne.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Ain't a gold gym in sight that's got that turned on that fast.

[B]

What JBC showed me, it makes me think he been bought these abs. We just wasn't paying attention, cuz. Look at this. Who is this? Who is these people? I've never seen this guy.

[C]

There's a way to look.

[E]

He's not big.

[B]

You've seen him look like.

[C]

No, it's not that. I get what you're saying. Like, if you're skinny, people can get abs fast.

[E]

Especially if they the skinny.

[B]

This is what I'm used to.

[E]

He look like he not eating.

[C]

He. He has a physique like he's working out. But.

[B]

But the guy that don't eat with abs don't look like that. That's what I'm saying. He don't have the. Don't eat. Look at with abs. He looks swollen.

[E]

He don't even have a strong crackhead.

[C]

Look, we see, you know, the strong

[E]

crackhead in the summertime thing and they be built. He don't even have that. He don't look real.

[B]

It don't look real.

[A]

Y' all know, and Wayne, I think it's my Age.

[E]

He's our age, I think.

[A]

Yeah, it's like 43, right? Somewhere around. I don't understand this.

[D]

Let me. Shut up. Never mind, go ahead, go ahead, spill a tea.

[A]

Like I. I enjoy. All in my 40s. Got to get.

[D]

You're on OIC.

[B]

The button. Hit the button.

[D]

Hit that,

[B]

hit it. When you learn it, you hit it.

[A]

1z bound.

[D]

My bad, my bad.

[B]

McDow.

[A]

They got the golden AR this boy earning that jacket.

[B]

Damn it.

[A]

Being slimmer to me is not like a in your 40s thing. The desire to look like I'm like in my late twenties as a forty something year old for me is odd. It's odd. I think the same thing about the dudes that are dying their beard.

[D]

Oh, yeah?

[E]

Oh, me? Well, you. No.

[A]

Cause you don't always do that.

[E]

No, no.

[A]

You played around one day after the lady at Target said you look, I know what she said to you. I know what she said to you.

[E]

Oh, you talk about Macy's.

[A]

Macy where? And I know what happened. You never came in and said it.

[C]

But I did come.

[D]

I put two and two together. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Thank you.

[E]

I can't.

[B]

I didn't like that part.

[A]

You came in here and said. What did he say?

[D]

Did she say something to. To your mom's.

[A]

Yeah, to your mom's.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Nah, that's not what the streets are saying. Freeze.

[E]

Oh, I don't care what the street said. I tell the truth.

[A]

Well, I'm the streets. Okay, fine, you, you went.

[E]

Be much more funnier.

[A]

You went to Macy's with your lady and somebody said something. Hey, if they said it to me, I'd have died my beard too that week. But I'm not really talking to you. I'm talking to people that are dying. I'm talking to khed y.

[E]

You sick?

[B]

Yeah, he's a sicko.

[A]

No, you know what happened?

[C]

You

[E]

funny.

[A]

Hey, Mark, you are a sicko.

[B]

Who.

[A]

Who in here thinks Joe Buton is sick?

[E]

Sick?

[A]

Well, no, that's the wrong question. Look, the reporter raised his hand. Who in here thinks I'm sick about this theory?

[D]

Yeah, just you for.

[E]

I'm the one that know the truth.

[B]

So, yeah, you know what really happened? I wasn't here. Somebody, nobody, Somebody has to feel.

[D]

He said he went to the register and someone said, yeah, that's your daughter.

[E]

No, I was with.

[C]

That's what they're saying.

[A]

They're trying to be funny.

[E]

I was with my mom and they didn't believe that I was her son. They thought I was her dude.

[B]

Oh, okay, that sucks.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

Mom could be bad.

[A]

No, no. He went and somebody. Somebody tried to bag thinking dad was dead.

[E]

You school.

[C]

Sh.

[A]

Are people.

[E]

Yo, yo, that's. That's crazy. School shopping lot of reporter right there.

[A]

Little traffic keeper.

[E]

Terrible people.

[A]

Double on.

[C]

Well done.

[A]

Well done. Hey, me too. I'm down. Listen, I don't have anything to say about Wayne's body. I think he went and did something. He didn't look like that at Skip Bailey's house. But I don't. I don't care. Go ahead. Hey, whatever makes people happy today. You want to look like the fucking built. Let me not say it. If he wasn't here, I would tell y' all what he looked like.

[C]

What if he.

[D]

Man Jones?

[A]

Yeah, he looked like this. Sound like a little racist, too. What I want to say. You can't say it about black people, especially in front of white reporters. So we'll wait till later. But he looked like the diesel one of them. That I can't say. Like in the commercial. Like the one you gotta. You gotta spray them like.

[B]

Oh, my God, I just got it.

[A]

He looked like the one that keeps surviving, only with that build. Anyway.

[D]

Anyways. Can you believe Anthony Davis said he's gonna play 82 games this year? Who believes that?

[C]

I do.

[E]

Yeah, he don't believe that.

[A]

Only way I believe it. Yeah,

[B]

Ninja Turtle abs.

[E]

I said I was waiting to get here to tell you. Y' all can all mute up. I'm only talking to Mona. Okay.

[B]

Yay.

[E]

I did it. If I told you,

[C]

let me not get carried.

[A]

All right.

[C]

We was with you for a second.

[B]

He got that midway

[E]

it from here down. This is the only hair on my body now.

[B]

What? I love it.

[D]

They just dipped you in the. The wax.

[B]

How's that?

[D]

Smooth.

[B]

Does it hurt?

[E]

It hurt like a. Oh, my God.

[B]

How long did it take?

[E]

About two hours. God.

[D]

Did you get laser, boy?

[E]

No.

[B]

What they.

[C]

How they do it?

[E]

Wax them up.

[C]

Wax.

[E]

Wax him up.

[B]

Yo, it's a two come feel, man.

[E]

Yo, don't touch me, bro.

[A]

I swear to God.

[B]

Don't listen.

[E]

Excuse me. Go back the table.

[B]

Everybody mute up. I want the audio listeners to know that Ice's legs shiny. Ice's legs are greased up. They soft looking. He look pretty 10. You look soft. Joe, you gotta tell us if his legs as soft as they look. You gotta touch them, bro.

[A]

I want to pull. He really want to rub his back, right?

[B]

Why can't you rub big Big like that's your man.

[D]

What about the back of the head. You can do the back of the head.

[C]

Back of the. Maybe the thigh meat.

[B]

I like you over there.

[D]

No, I'm saying Joe could rub the back of his hand on your leg. That's not gay.

[E]

No, no, he can't.

[C]

How about the thigh meat?

[E]

I'm with Batman. I look soft.

[B]

Not like a. Like. You look like smooth and soft and thick.

[A]

Go sit on.

[B]

Cory, listeners. Cory said ice. Look, airbrush

[E]

my stomach is. What the.

[B]

I just need the listeners to know how glossy. How glossy and how good this need down look. You look good. Good boy. Congratulations. I'm proud of you. I want to get laser like a. That painful, huh?

[C]

Why'd you leave?

[E]

The artist I need.

[D]

Can I ask a question that may be sensitive?

[A]

No, don't let him skip over this one so fast.

[D]

No, no, I got.

[E]

I couldn't do it.

[A]

Come on. Nah.

[C]

Cause I'm sitting.

[A]

Yo, I'm sitting over there. He got a big patch of hair on his hand. I'm like, why don't they just get that, right? Like.

[C]

No, no, no. It's. It's.

[E]

I gotta keep a little masculinity.

[C]

That's all. Me and her left, right? With forearms.

[A]

What you talking about?

[B]

I love that. No, underarm hair. I love that.

[D]

Can I ask myself a question yet?

[A]

Yes, please do.

[D]

Are you transitioning?

[A]

No, honestly. No, honestly. And I didn't know you did your underarms.

[C]

Did you answer him?

[B]

Did y'? All. Listen, Know the only hair I have right now is on my arm. That's underarms.

[E]

I wouldn't think he would have did his underarms. Why?

[A]

And I didn't think transitioning to penis like a seal. I thought he was doing some. Some Odyssey trick again.

[B]

And I want all of y' all miss that is whose ass is bald right now said that.

[E]

My ass not bald right now.

[C]

Oh, it's back.

[D]

Don't say that.

[A]

So it's disappoint.

[E]

Yo, underarms is different. That's different.

[B]

It's a private area. I think that underarms is the thing

[C]

I would do the most.

[B]

Yeah. What underarms brought? Like, you're.

[D]

You know, I'm keeping my pet hair,

[C]

just so you know. I mean, it makes you feel sweaty under there, right? That I can see in the summertime.

[A]

Yo, bring back the days of men going to the military, man. Bring back the days. Yeah, we gotta. Yeah, look what niggas do.

[D]

We get some free time.

[B]

Was he transitioning?

[E]

Two and a half hours.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[E]

It was. It was a minute hair.

[C]

How you want to do it monthly?

[B]

Why is your back too right? Mind you, as he keep going, the hair stop growing as thick. So it'll turn into six weeks and seven weeks. But at first he got to do monthly. Why is he acting so shocked like he don't get his ass waxed?

[E]

Waxing hurts and I don't get my ass wet.

[B]

What you get?

[A]

You do get your ass. Maybe not. Maybe not. This procedure metaphorically.

[B]

Am I tripping or did we understand? I thought we came to the understanding that is removes all.

[E]

No, it was laser.

[D]

I thought it was laser. I thought laser. I thought he got surgery.

[B]

Yeah, he think he better. Bottom line.

[E]

You think you better not bottom line.

[A]

You stupid.

[B]

Your hair is not grown back at all.

[E]

Still no, my back. I ain't been in a while.

[B]

Yeah, cuz the laser you all.

[A]

You got to go a couple times.

[B]

You have to go a couple of times before the hair is going for real. It'll keep coming back. Yeah.

[D]

Why don't you do the laser?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Can't talk about Lil Wayne, my

[C]

team.

[E]

Yo, but yo, the wax I heard is really, really painful.

[B]

It's extreme.

[E]

You a grown man getting your whole

[A]

backs whack and ice bag. You go, you need. You need the. The Shamu.

[B]

Wax. That put tears in my eyes. That is painful. I don't know how they just do that every week.

[E]

No, I'm not gonna listen. I'm keeping it a buck.

[A]

Why don't y' all be gentleman? Y' all don't just talk over Mona saying that. Come on, that ain't right.

[D]

Go ahead.

[B]

Water a little.

[A]

No, Mona says I can't say what the reported is.

[B]

Yeah, what did I say?

[A]

You said you getting that fat thing.

[E]

Yeah, that fat thing.

[B]

First of all, I said that getting waxed is super painful. And I did it a couple times and I won't put myself through like that anymore.

[A]

The funny about freeze is he ain't even trying to be nowhere topless.

[B]

That's hell yeah.

[E]

I was like, oh no.

[B]

I got don't lazy like it.

[A]

She love it.

[E]

Funny is.

[D]

That's all it matters.

[E]

I was like, oh no. I got like. I looked at myself. Gotta get back in the like like now I'm on it because you could see it. Now you really see yourself, right? I was like, oh, now I gotta get my right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at this falling apart.

[A]

Couldn't see it's hair.

[E]

You could, but it's. I'm telling you, I know we joking. It's different. The laser is a stitches different.

[D]

Did the wax make you feel slimmed down?

[A]

No. Yo, please put this on New Jersey dot com. Lamont. What's your last name? Lamont Avery.

[B]

Got his whole but no issue laser hurt, though. That hurt a little.

[E]

Nah, it don't hurt like that, people. It ain't hurt me. Right there. See, they told me the laser would hurt more. They said that like getting popped with a rubber band over and over and over.

[A]

But does it make a. Does it make a thong look different?

[E]

I wouldn't know. You need to put the speedo on afterwards.

[B]

Y' all are crazy.

[D]

You know, he got the ass,

[A]

you got the jock. Ish. Got the asap. Rocky draws, yo.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like until y'. All. One of y' all in here, try it, like, all the way ball. You can't even talk, cuz once you do it, you going to like it.

[A]

It's cool. We got a topic board right there.

[C]

Well, since. Since. Since we already in the zone, we should talk about DJ Envy, I think.

[D]

Oh, hey, no, it's different. That is a little bit different.

[A]

A lot talk about what. It ain't all different. Yo, these guys are disillusioned. That is different.

[D]

No washing your ass should be. Be human 101.

[B]

Like DJ Envy.

[A]

Okay, I'm with you.

[D]

That was the wildest headline I've ever.

[B]

Who.

[D]

Who went to their PR person and said, you know what? Let's run with this one.

[A]

You what?

[E]

Run it.

[C]

You crazy.

[E]

DJ Envy told the world that he didn't know how to properly wash his ass until his wife showed him how to wash his ass.

[B]

I think that's common, huh?

[E]

And I think it's more common.

[A]

I think it's more common than people are going to act.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's common for. For people to. Especially men to learn, like, good hygiene tactics from their significant other.

[C]

So, first one, what is the proper way? What am I. Maybe I missed my own.

[B]

I've seen debates online, and mind you, you know, that's the beauty of social media. You found out about people you're not supposed to. Remember. Remember?

[C]

Remember?

[B]

Yo, what I've heard people talk about when they wash their ass, that they'll put the washcloth on their face, finger, stick their finger in their ass, and clean the rim of their ass with a rack. I've heard people.

[D]

Who do they talk to?

[B]

I've heard people. Nobody. You know what?

[A]

Y. Shut up while Mo is talking. Go ahead.

[B]

Nobody. Everybody does things differently. Remember the guy that went viral? He was on a podcast with my home girl and he said that when he shits, he catches the. Before it goes in the water. Remember that?

[D]

What?

[A]

I don't listen to that part. I never heard him. That's your girl. Back to that bottom Y either.

[B]

Don't. Keep it real. Y' all don't know what the. I'm talking about. The guy went viral. They were talking about if l' Oreal was one of the hosts. It was a black guy. I can't think. His name was Animal or something like that. And when they're talking, he. He finds out. He finds out on camera that nobody else does. That catches their.

[E]

You think somebody else.

[B]

Google it. It was so six, seven years ago. Monkey with tissue. Yes. He thought that that was appropriate. Bottom line, if you're not taught hygiene. If you're not taught proper hygiene as a kid, who's next? Listen. Who's next to be close to you? I'm not saying that's a good thing, but he found out that day not to do that.

[C]

Yo, there's a toilet fucked up. That shit was a toilet for a reason.

[B]

The fuck am I supposed to know?

[E]

And before toilets, there were things called outhouses. And neither one of them do you catch your feces.

[B]

I know it's one.

[A]

You know who do that.

[B]

Boobs.

[C]

The point.

[B]

The point of me telling y' all this. Are we talking about. The point of me telling y' all this was to say that that guy is 30 plus. And he finds out right then and there that nobody else does that. What I'm saying to you.

[D]

Can you imagine being his man? Like, you been giving him that for years.

[E]

You got potty trained at some point in time in your life, maybe not.

[A]

Fig this out.

[E]

So part of the training.

[A]

Hit the floor, boy.

[B]

Listen, let me ask y' all a question. If. Let's pretend you weren't Tor. Here go Giggles. Let me let CNN get it out. Get it the out.

[C]

What I'm saying to y' all is.

[B]

And. And correct me if I'm wrong. If you.

[A]

And they pull the mic to their mouth when they giggle.

[B]

If you are. Exactly. If you are a man and you weren't blessed to have a father or parents to teach you how to wash your hands. Proper hygiene.

[C]

Like women just put. Be like, look, hold your hand.

[E]

What you doing? You got diarrhea?

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Shout out to the single mom.

[B]

Not talking. That doesn't work out. I'm going to stay down till I get this out. I shouldn't have threw him off with the other. What I'm saying to y' all is if, if you weren't blessed to have parent. Cuz some people grew up in foster care, some people grow up in the street, right? And you weren't blessed to be taught proper hygiene. Me. Who's the next person that gets that close to you that you would trust to let teach you? It's your girlfriend. It's your wife, right? Think about it. Who else could tell? Who else is going to tell you?

[D]

Why do your hands smell like that?

[B]

Talking about the dookie, but y' all stuck on the dookie.

[A]

Sharing a blunt with this guy.

[D]

Oh my God.

[A]

How was NB cleaning his ass before?

[D]

That's a good question.

[E]

That's what I.

[C]

That's what I'm.

[D]

That hopefully not like that dude

[E]

like yo fam, when I. When I got a video, imagine eating. I used to feel uncomfortable if I a have wipes in my house.

[A]

Word.

[B]

When? At what point in life was you on wipes early?

[A]

You light skin?

[E]

I don't know what you talking about.

[B]

I'm asking Babe.

[E]

30 something.

[B]

Okay, I thought you was going to say some. 8th grade. And I was talking about as I got old.

[E]

We didn't have flushable wipes when I was in eighth grade. I'm older, but at a certain pointhouses still no fam. At a certain point. Yo, you feel uncomfortable as a man. I. I don't know men. Most of my male friends, most have amazing hygiene.

[D]

I mean, that's a little weird.

[E]

That's not true.

[D]

My friends all got clean ass.

[B]

The hygiene that y. The hygiene skills that you ain't seen clean.

[C]

You see my friend's ass.

[B]

Who taught you how to wipe your asses and wash your asses? Who taught you? No, I'm asking who specifically who taught you that? Specifically?

[E]

I don't remember.

[C]

It was one of my parents. I know my son just is maybe a better example for me. My wife taught him.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Yeah, it was my mom's. Your mother.

[C]

And I ain't going to lie. I actually watched her teach him so that make sure I was doing it right.

[A]

Oh, oh.

[C]

I'm being, I'm being honest.

[D]

So you.

[B]

It was just.

[C]

Listen, turns out I knew what the fuck I was doing.

[B]

Here's another. Another piece of proof. It was this big thing online last year. I don't know if y' all remember especially on Tick Tock where all these white people were coming out saying that they learned all this hygiene stuff from black people sharing it because I guess it's a big cultural difference how we do hygiene.

[A]

Well, we didn't know that White.

[E]

Yeah, that was washing their legs below their ankles.

[B]

We had some whites in the building,

[A]

but what white people do?

[D]

I wash my legs.

[A]

These things are clean. How white people bathe and cook is not how we. We bathe and cook, right? It is different.

[B]

It is different. So what I'm saying to y' all is. Is different between men and women is different between your family. Some people come from dirty ass backgrounds. Like, if you grew up in some dirty. Nobody's showing you how to watch your ass. I don't think that that's ridiculous that his wife t. And I think it's very common that people wives and girlfriends and the first person that get real close to them like that, teach them.

[E]

I with envy.

[B]

I want to tell some person about myself.

[A]

I with envy.

[C]

Me too.

[E]

Me too.

[A]

That's why I'm shutting up my Virgo. That's why I'm shutting up.

[B]

My Virgo ex taught me how to put deodorant on. I think I was like 28.

[A]

What were you doing before?

[B]

I used to put deodorant on all the way around, everywhere. I never censored it. Where the hair grows. I swear to God, I would put deodorant on everywhere.

[A]

She thought it was powder.

[C]

Use it like that. Baby powder.

[B]

My.

[E]

He supposed to be my brother was powder.

[B]

Listen, my n says to me, what the are you doing? I said, what the you mean? He's like, bro, you don't have to put. Put my arm up. Did it. And I promise you, I saved on bars, cuz I was. I'm just gonna do a stick a week.

[C]

Yeah, I promise.

[B]

I used to go like this.

[D]

And I know your shirts look crazy.

[B]

Nobody taught me hygiene stuff. I learned my mother worked a lot. I didn't have that. And nobody sat and taught me. You do none of that. Like, wow. And I think a lot of people.

[A]

I'm glad that DJ Envy has learned fact how to properly wash his ass. No matter where he learned it from, whether it be his wife, YouTube or you. Yes, Joe.

[B]

Can I play this?

[C]

I know you close this out by just to answer the initial question, which is what was he doing before?

[D]

Oh, yeah, please.

[C]

He actually says it. He says, all right, confession, confession. I tell too much up here, but my wife hates it. But it's all good. So. Yes, I used to be the type of guy that didn't get all up.

[A]

He said this on the Breakfast Club.

[C]

Yeah, it was initially. I think he initiated it somewhere else. And

[D]

yeah, he didn't get all up in there.

[A]

Go ahead, Mark Please, we on this ass cleaning topic for Matt Law. Please.

[C]

He was just doing the cheeks, by the way. He was responding just for context. He responded to Eric Benet, who said that men who believe washing with soap and water makes them gay and are likely closeted.

[E]

Right?

[D]

Wait, what?

[A]

Wait, wait, what?

[D]

What?

[E]

Eric Benet said that it was funny. Eric Benet is sitting in a tub and he's recording himself. And he said, yo, it's a new trend going on, talking about how men that wash their asses thoroughly are closeted gay people.

[C]

Right?

[B]

What?

[A]

Yo, what part of the Internet is this? I want to make sure we made

[C]

it clear because I want people to think Eric Bennet's not saying it.

[A]

We know what he said. We understand that, but we got it.

[D]

I can't believe this has to be said.

[C]

I. This is wild to me. And that's when Envy said all of that. And then he said one thing. One day, me and my wife. This was a long time ago, you know, we took showers with each other. We washed each other. And one day, she got all in there, and I'm like, whoa. And then I realized I'm supposed to wash my ass thoroughly and correctly. So ever since then, I'm like, I wash my ass, but you should get all up in there. You don't want stanky ass.

[A]

Now, what I will add to that is my girl gets deeper than I get. You just Chris Paul and his toes down, man. Come on, everybody just watch when she take the loofah and get back there. The loofah?

[C]

That's what you named it?

[A]

That's a classic. Call that. That is a classic.

[E]

Somebody at the park.

[B]

Do y' all know what those African nets look like that people wash up with now? It's like a net. It's a long net. And people don't use washcloths. They say bacteria. What the. Is so funny.

[A]

Giggles why would Ish know how African anything looks? No, he don't know what an African net looks like.

[B]

You know what it looks like?

[A]

Yes, I know what you're talking.

[B]

So listen, listen. You take that whole net and you putting it between like, listen, you is washing ass now. People are not just fighting.

[C]

I never heard.

[D]

I can't believe that it's now.

[B]

Yeah, it works.

[A]

Well, thank God that men are up

[D]

on their women, man. What have they been dealing with?

[A]

Another day we could talk about them women.

[B]

Shit stains, sucking dick right next to

[D]

a fucking dirty bottle.

[C]

That's literally what they said on air. You know, the crust and the dingleberries used to Be there.

[A]

Mark. Did Mom Donnie do anything? All right, we got it. We did it. We're closing that. It's over now. We did it for a whole hour.

[B]

And I was just going to ask Joe, can I play the catch? The dookie clip?

[A]

But no, you can't play the cat.

[B]

Check my Instagram. I post it.

[A]

Yeah, no, we. Yeah. Talking about cleaning their ass. I hit the streets with a mean shark the other day. Are you okay?

[B]

That's the thing you wanted to tell about?

[D]

Did you throw it away?

[A]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, you threw it away. What was the alternative? Throw it in a hamper? I'm just asking.

[C]

Especially when you live with somebody, it's dead ass. Like you get away with some nasty ass. Draws solo and just toss them in the washing machine.

[A]

That's the thing. Now it's somebody with you. Like seeing your nasty shit.

[B]

Yeah, that shirt is crazy.

[A]

All the way down or whatever. All right, what else is important? Unimportant. Hakeem Elijah won. Let's do it. Come on, let's fight. We fight about things that I had no idea we would fight about up here.

[D]

Cleaning ass, basketball training, abs.

[A]

So I was asked, would I pay $100,000 to have Hakeem Olaan train me right? And my answer to that is yes. If I'm a big man in the league and I'm trying to, to improve and I have some money, would you

[E]

pay $100,000 a week?

[A]

A week?

[E]

Oh, you pay that?

[D]

Can I make it $40 million a year? Yeah, I got a couple hundred.

[A]

So why wouldn't you?

[C]

The question was asked to Nemius Quetta. Ok, I don't know from the cells. He's the center for the Celtics, a big dude and he's.

[A]

Oh, that's the problem already.

[C]

He's a big Portuguese guy. He just signed a four year, $56 million deal, which ain't quite that much. It's $14 million. And they asked him if he would. If he would do that. And he said, no, I'm stingy. I don't spend $100,000 on training. And somebody said, would you make an exception for Akeem Olajuwon? He said, not even with Hakeem Olajuwon

[D]

does he, does he play?

[E]

Yeah, he plays. In terms of money, he's good.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

He just got a full year, 56 million dollar extension.

[D]

Let me rephrase that because that's sound of disrespectful. Does he play offensively? Actually, Hakeem was also really good defensive player.

[E]

I would he really, he.

[D]

He's a rebounded block.

[E]

He wanted. No, he wanted dunk. Guys like dunks. Everything he touches.

[D]

He.

[E]

Okay dunks everything he did.

[C]

He.

[E]

He played good in playoffs.

[A]

But to answer your question, if he called Hakeem Alajuan, he would get hung up on.

[E]

Got it.

[D]

Say who?

[A]

Hakeem Alajuan is not leaving his, his great room to speak to this gentleman, with all due respect, of course, because he is pretty good. But Hakeem ain't just sitting with anybody.

[C]

Yes, he is.

[A]

No, he ain't anybody.

[C]

With a hundred thousand a week.

[A]

I don't think he is.

[C]

I disagree.

[E]

I've heard if that's the price.

[A]

I mean I've heard players say I was trying to get in with Hakeem. Hakeem runs a tight schedule. He don't take anybody. Like I've heard him. They talk about it.

[C]

If you know, I say goodbye, they talk about this. Okay.

[D]

If I was a big man, I, I would pay Hakeem to me, one of the most amazing centers of all time, particularly from like a fundamentals, footwork, defense, offense. Like yeah, I'm gonna sit with him for a guard.

[A]

I would pay him just on the footwork.

[E]

Kobe paid. I would get a guard doing that. I would see the guard doing it. Today's basketball. Yeah, I don't think so. Center's low post presences down low aren't really prominent, prevalent like they once were. Center's now shooting threes and shit like that. So I got could see maybe cuz

[D]

none of them learn no footwork.

[A]

Yeah, the game is too fast for that.

[E]

Now the game is different. The game is too fast for that. They don't want you down there. There very few. Like if I'm wimy, I def. I'll give him 200.

[A]

If I'm Jaylen Brunson just won a

[C]

championship or footwork right at the guard spot.

[E]

That's why it makes sense. The guard.

[C]

Yeah, but look at where he.

[A]

I'm never going to undersell the importance of one, footwork, no matter the position. I don't care what the league is doing. And two, I'm never going to talk somebody out of it investing in themselves.

[C]

I agree, I agree with that.

[A]

How could I do that?

[C]

I agree with that. And just Jalen Brunson, he's a guard, but a lot of that interesting footwork you see is six feet from the basket. You know what I mean? It's not just what he's doing. 25ft from the basket.

[A]

Yeah, the post up.

[C]

It's the poster, but he's our height, and him doing that is impressive. But when I look at the best players in the history of the game going, Hakeem, I gotta assume there's something to it, even in this moment. And now, to be fair to this young, up until this contract extension, he'd only made about $5 million, if I remember correctly.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He's a younger player, so I understand why he wouldn't have done it before. Cause you ain't made that much. You can't afford to spend that much.

[D]

I'm gonna do a week, though, right?

[C]

A week might not. It might be one of the things where it ain't worth it if you don't get the whole package.

[E]

You know what I mean? One arm.

[A]

You know what I mean? The Celtics just spent a bag on Mitchell Robinson, who has footwork.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So, I mean, it's hard for me to hear that footwork is not valued.

[C]

Right. Yeah. That doesn't make sense.

[A]

And that's as a dunker and rebounder.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you need footwork for all of that stuff.

[C]

Yeah. He said he's trying to expand his game by working on some other things in this offseason. So, again, I don't want to make it sound like he's not worried about expanding his game. He talked about specific areas he wants to grow offensively and defensively. I would think, to your point, footwork,

[E]

back to basketball, he was just talking about. Because he said it wasn't Akemalaj, where he was like, I'm not. I don't spend $100,000 on training, so. So for nothing is what he was saying.

[C]

So let me ask you a question.

[E]

I'm stingy. I ain't doing it.

[A]

All right, well, go get with Bobby Portis where the price will be different.

[C]

Samuel D. And I love Bobby Portis.

[A]

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying, yes, Sam. Like, go get with the people that I like. Samuel dberg, too, though.

[C]

I'm from Philly.

[E]

I'm from Jersey. Same pass, baby.

[C]

Is he a Jersey? Oh, that explains everything. But let me ask you a question. How much would you. What percentage of yourself would you pay to become even better at your job?

[E]

Who am I paying it to?

[C]

Oh, no. Say Joe Rogan. Who's number one? I'm just using Joe because he's number one on the list. Joe Rogan. If he said, look, I'll mentor y' all in podcasting, every single one of us, but it's gonna cost X and you will become 20% better at your job. How much is that worth to you? How much is that worth? You know what I mean?

[D]

It's worth it for 20% increase.

[C]

20% better at your job?

[D]

Yeah. I would spend 30%.

[E]

You a say increase what you said, just 20% better at your job.

[D]

You talking about money.

[E]

But that. That 20 bad at your job theoretically come with it.

[A]

Can y' all answer?

[D]

Mark? Yeah, I would spend 30% to get 20% better. Cuz over 2 years you doubling your.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

I would spend whatever I could afford, whatever I could spare, including the sacrifice. And I don't. You, you know. Yeah.

[E]

Time all that shit. Yeah.

[C]

If I get 20% better at my job. Yeah.

[E]

Cause then what you could do with that 20%.

[A]

Yeah, if it's guaranteed, I'mma improve. Like if it's Hakeem Joe Rogan would podcast and it's like Hakeem with.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

So yeah, I would defer payment. I would do it for free. Take the payment.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause some of the problems.

[A]

Cause the thing is, how long do you need to train, right? We saying. Don't let the numbers confuse you. We saying 100,000 per week. He don't need to be in like a five, six, six month program, but

[C]

let's say it's a month.

[B]

No.

[E]

He's easy as a basketball player. If he learns one go to move, it could change his game exponentially. I'm bugging and I'm playing.

[A]

But

[E]

I would pay him if it really depends on the money. And if he had only made up to $5 million at this time, 100k a week to him is still unfathomable because in 10 weeks, that's a million dollars.

[D]

He makes $14 million. You're making about $270,000,000 a week.

[E]

So right now.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's a big chunk. But I would do it for a

[C]

couple weeks for sure if you took me a month's salary for the year to develop a back to the basket

[E]

move, a little baby hook or something like that.

[A]

Anything that you could take to your employer and yield results with it. Yeah, yeah, I would definitely do that.

[E]

Makes sense.

[A]

Do we want to talk about. I want to talk about miracles, man, but maybe it's too soon to do that. Do we want to talk about Jerry Lito?

[D]

I don't know the full details for sure.

[E]

All the details. You gotta.

[A]

He's a creep.

[E]

What's the accusation?

[A]

He's a cre. He's a creep. And it's over. Sexual assault, sexual abuse, pedophile, under a statutory rape. Underage women. Oh, like all of the nasty women, plural? Yes, women.

[E]

Plural.

[A]

Yeah, there's a bunch of them. Hang them up. Yeah.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And this is a thing because Jared Leto has a role and I don't watch his move. She. She. What's the she? Girl. She Girl. She woman.

[D]

He.

[B]

He.

[D]

I don't know. It might be.

[A]

That's the universe. Well, he's. He's in that.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

He's in she He. His voice is in she woman. And he's Skeletor. So he's in current movies that are lit with these.

[D]

They took place between 2002 and 2016. They were 16 to 18 years old while he was in his 30s and 40s. Allegedly. All, of course.

[A]

Pack him up.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, if it's true.

[E]

Pack him up.

[A]

Pack him up.

[D]

Pack him up.

[A]

Pack him up. You gotta go. Sorry. And listen, I do not think all white people look the same. I do think that it's a coincidence to, for me, that Jared Leto and Russell Brand look.

[D]

Oh, shit.

[A]

Look as similar as they do and are both on the hook for the creepy charges, which led me to maybe something that is inappropriate. But I'm gonna ask you guys anyway.

[D]

Please.

[A]

I know he's there. The canceled. I'm talking about the super canceled. Canceled whites versus the super canceled blacks. Who win? Who wins? Cause on the white side, who we got.

[C]

Sorry. Canceled on a.

[A]

In a talent off. Oh, I mean, super canceled.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I'm talking about, like, Jared. Jared Leto, Kevin Spacey.

[C]

Cause, see, ours don't ever really get super canceled. Like, Michael Jackson's still popping. R. Kelly's is still playing.

[D]

R. Kelly's still super canceled.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Bill Cosby, his music playing don't mean he's not canceled.

[D]

That speaks to the talent, and it

[E]

don't play as much. It would. Is it not even remotely close?

[C]

Of course.

[E]

The frequency that it would be playing if he was not canceled.

[C]

Okay. I, I, I feel like the community's still divided on that because I go. I go to a lot of parties

[A]

and still hear Jared Leto. Russell. Russell Brand, or Russell Brand. I want to be sure to not confuse that with Russell Crowe. Who's. That's my guy.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Kevin Spacey. That's a tough three. I'm not gonna put Louis CK on that list right now. Even though that standup was one of the worst pieces of content that we have digested recently.

[C]

I didn't think so we should argue about in the patreon.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Have you seen some of his older work?

[C]

I've seen every single thing he's done. I thought it was his least good one, but I didn't think it was as bad as you guys said it was. I watched it after I heard y' all review of it. So I was expecting it to be complete trash. And I thought it was.

[A]

Was just duh, you know, it was really bad.

[E]

Bill Cosby, R. Kelly.

[A]

The end, right?

[E]

Yeah,

[A]

that's true.

[E]

Y not close.

[A]

Y shut me up. You got it.

[D]

Kevin.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Jerry Leo. You're done, buddy. But listen, is there a larger conversation? Not for here. Cuz none of us are actors or have our after. Like. Like, why does Hollywood just seem to look the other way for some of these people? I tell you, when it comes to.

[E]

I think the world does.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But I don't think it's just Hollywood. They doing it in politics. They do it in Hollywood. They do it in music.

[A]

They.

[E]

It's everywhere, bro. It's a money thing. And so if we can make money. If we can make money from. You will turn their head to some. To some egregious. As long as you still turn a profit, but you're profitable.

[C]

But I think it's something else too. I agree with that. I think it's the money. And I also think they're connected in ways that cutting this person off means like blood in, blood out. I think a lot of them are all tied together.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And so it's not easy to cut them off because they're like, oh, you. Oh, you cut me off.

[E]

Shutting me off of this.

[C]

Okay. Okay, Jim.

[D]

Well, here's.

[C]

You know, there's skeletons over here. Exactly. And it's all the same party.

[E]

But I think that's in all of these avenues. It ain't just Hollywood. I think that same shit is in music.

[C]

I think that same music is a very close.

[E]

I think that same shit is in politics. I think politics everywhere and nobody's cutting each other off because we all in this.

[C]

I think those three domains are probably the biggest though.

[D]

I think politics is number one.

[E]

I'm saying could be.

[C]

Could be.

[B]

Could be politics and the police for sure.

[E]

Oh, I don't know about that part.

[B]

The police.

[E]

I didn't know that.

[B]

Well, you know, if you have a good cop come. He come on his force and he see that's wrong. He telling somebody they put in his locker.

[C]

Oh, for sure. We talk about just. I'm talking the sexual. The sexual in particular. I'm with you. They all on what's the difference? No, no. We just. We're just trying to figure out where the most sexual depravity is happening. I agree with you. To put.

[E]

And it's a very, very big difference.

[C]

There's a culture of it in Hollywood.

[E]

Corrupt cops and. And sexual assaults everywhere, bro.

[D]

Epstein island exists, man. That's number one.

[C]

And that's politics. That ain't entertainment.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

That's the point.

[D]

Although there is a lot of entertainers

[E]

in that one as well. If it was rumored that anybody that we know was doing some of that, there's no way I'm getting on an airplane. I don't want to. You can't have my phone number.

[D]

Word.

[E]

Some of the most powerful people in the world were his peoples. So that just speaks volumes.

[A]

We can stay here and talk about Dean the Great facing up to 15 years in prison after a woman claimed he forced her off of a yacht and grabbed her while she recorded him, leading to a felony robbery charge. He was arrested on the issue he's facing.

[E]

Fifteen years, you said?

[A]

Yeah. Dang.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, I don't really have enough information to really.

[A]

It got to be more. I doubt.

[E]

I'm just, you know, I don't like everything I've seen from. And again, it's been mostly clips. I don't really watch a lot of it, but you could kind of. They just was playing very, very close to. Yeah, you can see at some point something was going to happen. Like, y' all are doing a lot on these streams with these girls and in this climate today.

[A]

It was. That's why I'm surprised y' all got your somber voices on.

[E]

No, I'm saying I don't know enough to. I don't want to convict them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me read this to you. It says the defendant is seen on the video putting his hands. The defendant is seen putting his hands on the victim multiple times attempting to grab her phone, where a stranger struggle ensues over the taking of the phone as the victim is trying to get away from him, where she could be seen cradling her body to the floor, trying to stop the defendant from taking her phone. Read an excerpt from the affidavit. So that's why he got robbery, because he was trying to take care of him. I'm assuming she recorded something or they

[E]

want her to have.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean, I'm with Joe when the whole, like, with the sound of voice thing, because I feel like I've been cringing at some of this shit for forever. What's the little Boy name that just went viral for cussing the out, basically because she wouldn't him. That little boy kept going viral over and over and over negatively. But he was like all over for a while. Let me just give you his name. God damn it. Y. I'm sure y' all talked about it up here.

[A]

I don't know who you.

[B]

Okay, give me a second. God damn it.

[E]

See, I think. I think I'm. I'm on. I'm on the same page as Ice. I think they. In this content era, they play too much. Like some of that shit that they be doing in my hood, you would have got your ass. Like they just really, really, really teetered a line a lot. But we look at his content, they getting mad views. They getting all this virality from doing it. So it's like, yo, we gonna just keep, keep, keep doing it until somebody don't wanna play no more or something happened with somebody like. Cause again, it could be something. They could have a personal relationship.

[B]

I don't think that's what it is. I think when you add Kim, cameras and clout and alcohol.

[E]

And alcohol, you're just going to.

[D]

I also think when you get people a lot of money kind of quickly and for doing like just being them, you could. You could really lead to a bad situation.

[B]

It was a. It was a video with the rapper from New York City doing a stream like two or three weeks ago. I think his name is tj, right?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And him and the streamer, who's like a young white guy, they get into a back and forth and the. The streamer feels like he's trying to bully him. So at some point he get access him to leave the property. And while he's leaving the property, he runs up and smacks this. It instantly turns into some ghetto brawl. And they're chasing him in. Mind you streamer boy got some old. Some homies that do some mma and so they didn't get their ass kicked. They really start kicking ass for real. But it turned into somebody could have really got hurt. Like a weapon could have been brandished. My security is in the middle melee too, because these pay security and the security is always six, five. And they're sober, I would like to assume, but they just too young with too much money, too fast and they're drunk. And then it's like with the. With the guy I was talking about, he's caught on camera like, you ain't gonna give me no pussy. Like, he's completely going there about feeling like she owes a. Not even Realizing that the people are watching this, because that's corny, but that's how life is like. It get like that. You know, I bought you a dinner, Right. But to do it on camera where everybody's about to judge you and look at it, it's like. It's crazy.

[E]

I think a lot of dudes is two things. Yes. It's crazy to us. I think a lot of them play to that incel culture who they feel entitled. They feel like we're old, these things. So they kind of speaking for them.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

And they champion in that, like. Yeah, that's right. Tell her she do owe you something.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

So it's. It's a combination of things, but like, back to them. I just kind of figured at some point there was going to be something happening because.

[A]

Well, incel means involuntarily celibate.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Why would you want to emulate those guys? Or why would you want to?

[E]

I just think they know what.

[B]

Because that crowd spends money and they sub that crowd, that. That woman hater crowd. They are so supportive towards the guy that. That they, you know. You know, consider king. That's why you feed them because they show so much love financially. That's why it's terrible. It's sickening.

[E]

It's bad.

[B]

It's really nasty.

[A]

Yeah, but that same thing when you broke is very different when you have money.

[E]

Yes, but I think. But if you're just getting the money, you don't really know that yet. And you just gotta go, what? What's getting the money?

[C]

What?

[E]

Where's the money coming in? All right, let me keep feeding on.

[A]

I'm. I hear y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

I'm all the way on a different side. I don't have a somber voice for this. These have been asking for it.

[E]

Yeah, no, I.

[A]

These are on there doing everything. No, they ain't teeter. They have not been teetering a lot. They have not been teetering a lot. They have been miles past the line. Like, what, What. What do you want me to say about this?

[C]

Like.

[A]

And it's funny that this is all going to fall on the streamer, right? Because I'm getting to the streaming con company who's allowing this. Y' all got alcohol there. Y' all can't say to girls, yo, suck my dick, I wanna fuck you. Pull your pussy out. All of these things. No, you can't say these things. Sorry, sorry. That's not me making the rules up. And if you do, then have the lawsuit money ready, have the settlement money ready, have the Lawyer money together. And trust me, it's a lot. When Adrien Broner got accused and she said, yo, I'm taking. Taking him. I'm. He sexually did whatever he was like, oh, no, don't start treating me different now. Cause y' all think I got some money. Hey, news flash, dodo head. That's exactly what's going on. You will be treated differently. Huh?

[D]

I'll tell you what's gonna change it, too, is once the. The twitches of the world get hit with a suit, too, because of it.

[E]

A big one.

[D]

Yeah, big one. A big one.

[E]

Well, yeah, because so much money, they'll take a small.

[A]

All it take is one person to get hit upside the head at VH1 to sue VH1 for them to come in here and start handing out platform plastic cups. Yeah, yeah, it only takes one. But, I mean, they have been running amok for a little while. And anybody with eyes been looking like they've been bugging out, oh, this is any day now.

[B]

The streamer that I was speaking of was Deshay. That's what his name was. He got. He had like, a viral incident with a girl on a boat, and that's what. It caused a lot of conversation. But that was really the argument. You supposed to be me, and you didn't. You're not me. And it got like. I think he pulled her wig off at a point in the. The video or something like that. But. And I feel like the only rules in it is what the stream allows. So let's say kick or whatever it is doesn't allow you to say gorilla. They'll make sure they don't say that.

[C]

But everything else is on.

[D]

So there's no.

[B]

There's no force to make sure it's okay besides, like, the police. And that's against the law. You know what I mean? They out of control. They kids.

[A]

Well, okay, but you could be a kid and you could go book some girls to be on your stream that want to be around you. Yeah, I never see a girl look

[E]

like it don't come off as authentic. Like, even. Even we see a bunch of people,

[A]

the girl that want to actually be with you don't come off authentic.

[E]

Paying the girls to now come to be on the stream, they doing little dumb. They doing dumb in real time for the genuine reaction and the genuine response from the people. The stream.

[B]

That's the thing. The girl I'm speaking about, her flight was booked and all that. And that was. That was the debate at first who paid for a flight. Most of those girls are paid, Most of what you see is already not authentic because they're not sitting there for nothing. They sitting there for dying. And whatever little check they gonna get from being there, you know what I mean?

[E]

And again, these are lit. Them girls are gonna want to go be on them streams, bro.

[A]

That's the other part that's confusing to me. I believe these dudes to be talented as well. So why is the focus always the woman? The women, y' all are the celebrities, Quote, unquote.

[E]

Bro, we doing what? Once the needle, Once the needles start moving, I'm gonna keep doing what makes the needle move.

[A]

Do something else, then. Do something else.

[E]

That's what they doing. You know what I'm saying? Like, literally, like, yo, if this works, we have a formula now of what is working. They gonna keep doing it, and again, we gonna keep doing it to the max. So now we're gonna get bigger. So this one got 2 million streams.

[B]

Cool.

[E]

We're gonna take it to the next level. This one got 3.5, this one got 8. And they just keep going like, like, like, dude, we mentioned it, right? Some of the other clips was him, him, him and AB about to fight. Stuff like that. Not girl related stuff, but that might not generate enough as having a girl over here doing xyz. Oh, now they see this, they start playing algorithm games and start looking at these numbers and analytic. I'm sorry, analytic games. Oh, that, that's working. All right, so you know what? Do that, Turn it up. AB not drinking right now. All the other. I'm working them in the gym. They don't care about that. Yeah, they don't care about you in the gym. All right, cool. Good for you. But that ain't moving the numbers up over here.

[B]

More credit than I am. I feel like most of that is we gonna get up today, we're gonna wear this jewelry, we're gonna wear these type of clothes, and whatever happens, happens. Because we're. We're starting with this bottle of D. I don't even think planned out.

[E]

I. I think there's some level of planning to it. Like we. We know what works.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That's all.

[E]

So one, even if you see it in some plan, process of happening. All right, cool. Let's lean over here.

[A]

Because we know it don't work if it gets your stream shut down and mad lawsuits start coming your way. Now you run out of money.

[E]

Now you're learning.

[A]

Find something else that works.

[B]

And that's the problem.

[A]

You look stupid doing that shit. If you turn the camera on and you inviting women around. Try respecting them.

[D]

Be a gentleman.

[E]

Maybe it goes back to what we just said though. Who that?

[A]

That.

[E]

That's that community of incel niggas. They not watching. You respect no women. Now you lost them. But that's who you feeding. That's the real problem. That's the problem. You start feeding them, you. You locked in with them. So we got to do what y' all want to see.

[B]

As soon as they get a bad on camera. First question, how many. How many bodies you got? Like, it's all little, you know, it's just that type of thing. But that, that seems to be the culture, like with them. That's why even when people say to me, oh, you should stream, it's like, I don't even see where people my age fit in there with that. Cuz. That is like, kitty.

[E]

Y' all know I'm streaming and people constantly jumping, yo, you're gonna do this. No, for him. I'm sitting there playing video games.

[B]

Oh, you stream when you play games?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm playing video games. I respect to that. That's not. I'm not from that. That's not my culture. Yeah, but these, these kids, they watch hours and hours and hours and hours of these niggas just running around doing yeah, bro, Kaiser not and them be having 24 hour live for us. I'm not watching Nobody for no 24 hours. Just do. Do whatever. But for that generation, that's a thing they watch.

[A]

I don't even think it's fair to put Carson's name in this.

[E]

No, I'm just giving you an example of somebody young, that's popular, that was staying on the stream for 24 hours straight.

[A]

You're speaking to my example. You young. Find something the else to do.

[E]

No, I'm find something else to do. I'm talking about the attention span of their generation. These niggas will watch that shit for hours. We're not doing that.

[A]

Then find something to do knowing that people are watching you for all of these hours. I agree.

[C]

I know.

[A]

I don't need the culture incel culture to be explained to me. I'm saying stop it. Yeah, yeah, fuck them.

[E]

But that's hard to tell that to a nigga if you know that's where your money coming from. That's all I'm saying.

[A]

I hear you. I'm not with nobody having to be a slave to their audience.

[E]

Yeah, you've been.

[A]

I'm not with nobody letting their audience turn them into something Else. Or now you just.

[C]

What?

[A]

Which is a caricature of you. I'm not with that. Because for some eyeballs, that's really what it is. Go ahead and do what y' all doing. What else? What else? What else is there?

[C]

Y' all got some. I mean, we ain't. Talk TV in a minute.

[A]

What's up?

[C]

We all Ted Lasso people.

[D]

Yeah, I am.

[C]

New season coming out.

[D]

Really?

[C]

Yes. They just announced it.

[D]

Interesting.

[C]

Season four, he's with the new team. Because I know what you're wondering with the storyline, maybe.

[D]

Well, I thought that they thought it was a se Series finale. The last.

[C]

It's a surprise, kind of.

[D]

They brought it back from the game.

[C]

They brought it back and they. Which, you know. Yeah. Right. Everybody know what that mean. He's gonna be with the women. Coaching a women's team still in Britain.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

So it allows the storyline to continue with the family and all that other stuff, I'm guessing, but with a whole new squad. So I'm looking forward to it. I usually don't like when these things get renewed. Cause they usually suck. But the quality of Ted Lasso was so good and it was still so early. It's only season four that I don't feel like they've run out of ideas or run out of gas. And I think getting a new team allows you to do a whole lot of interesting stuff.

[D]

I did try that Larry David history show, and I made it 10 minutes into the show.

[B]

And I was surprised.

[D]

He was just doing curb jokes from the aspect of the Constitution.

[B]

Yeah, I was looking forward to.

[D]

It was bad. It was bad.

[C]

I couldn't even look.

[D]

Maybe it gets better. But the 10 minutes I saw, I was like, I can't keep watching this.

[E]

Did any of y' all watch Schitt's Creek?

[D]

Yeah. So I'm watching it now. Actually, I did watch it.

[E]

The brother from the show. And I think it's the same writer or something. They have a new show.

[D]

He wrote Screek to him and his dad.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

The dad and the son are real dad and son. And they wrote and produced that show.

[E]

They have a new show called Bad Mistakes.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

It's on.

[D]

I believe it's on Netflix. I think I saw. I saw him there.

[E]

It's in. It's in line with that. It's funny.

[D]

Really good show.

[E]

Brother and sister do some. Get tied up with some criminals and basically get blackmailed in. Run it for them.

[D]

Okay.

[E]

But you know how his style of comedy. Yeah. Check it out.

[D]

If you.

[E]

With Shit Creek, you'll with it.

[D]

Yeah, I'm late to it, but it's a good show.

[B]

Speaking of television, do

[A]

all pull your timer out please and put it to three minutes.

[B]

Are you going to tap me at 2:30?

[C]

I'll try.

[B]

Okay, so this documentary out.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't try to steal some time.

[B]

That's what I was doing. Got it it okay. There's a documentary out called Toxic Love on Netflix. Did you see it? Bars. Did you love it?

[D]

I did.

[B]

Listen, the reason why I love it. Oh, no joke. Get the out of here. The thing about it was at first I was a little like. Because I just watched a pregnancy one and it was like giving liar. Because once they got. Well, let me explain to the people that watching. I forgot it's a show. So it's about this guy named Ian who has a condo with his ex. They break up some kind of way. He's still living in the condo. His new girlfriend moves in the condo and she's experiencing all this harassment. People emailing her, calling her, playing on the phone. It goes so as far go so far as somebody responds to like a sex ad where they want to get into some sexual assault. Sexual assault things. This person books that for the house. This guy comes to do a pretend climb in the window and take the coochie with somebody that has no idea like that's how deep it was getting. And then eventually somebody attacks her in the garage. Right? I loved it. It's one of those like take a good twist to it, you know what I mean?

[D]

Once I saw there was still an hour left in the show, I was like, where is this about to go?

[B]

Where is it going? Because it kind of messed it out.

[D]

Then it went.

[B]

I was almost frustrated with myself that I didn't automatically assume that it was the man. Because I love what Michelle said. People never look at the man. Like when it's a situation where there's two women, people never pinpointed a man. And the crazy thing is thing about it was the man was the one behind everything. Ian the boyfriend. So all of it was set up, but he was the police. He was a federal agent. So when the feds get involved in it, they come and they're like, we got to look at this. This don't look right. Because alleged stalker girl goes to jail. Michelle goes to jail for stalking. The new goes to jail for I guess lying to the police. And the fed guy, Ian is just walking around with no, with not at any trouble. So at the end they find out it's in. And he goes to jail for 15 years. Wow.

[D]

Spoiler alert. But yes.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

70 seconds. I enjoyed it as well.

[B]

It was good. What was your favorite part?

[D]

Just the twist of it all. Yeah, I didn't see that coming at all.

[B]

Me neither. I was mad at myself that I see it coming because I'm a girl and I know it's always the boy because boys are problems. Like, men are the root of each.

[D]

Sometimes girls go a little crazy, too.

[C]

So, you know, I mean, man, that's a good.

[D]

Allegedly.

[B]

Allegedly. Like, there we go now. There's my baby Parks back. No, but it was good. Check it out. If you haven't checked it out, I just ruined it for you.

[E]

Yeah, she did that.

[C]

You totally did that.

[E]

38 seconds left. Yo, hold up. Clap it up.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I've been working on stuff.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

That was great. That was.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

What I didn't get, he did all of that because they owned a house together.

[B]

That's all it was. It was beef over that property.

[A]

I don't understand that. To save the life of.

[B]

He wanted to get the out the house so he can keep that guy.

[D]

I don't want to. I don't want to offend anybody.

[B]

What?

[D]

Adult Disney people.

[A]

Oh, the weirdest.

[D]

Sometimes they can fall on the weird side, bro. Sometimes it's cool, sometimes they're weird.

[B]

It's only cool when they get married there. Like. Like that they do a little bridal party, but that just hang out at Disney at 40 are weirdos. I don't care. Yeah, I can say that with my whole chest, bro. I didn't even discover them. So I took my kids to Disney. I'm like, what are all these grown people? And then I discovered Disney After Dark, where everybody gets drunk and each other. That's fun.

[E]

What's that? Hold on.

[B]

Disney After Dark jumps you, put them kids to bed, act like it's a nanny that hit the streets. Live being. Yes. Disney After Dark is lit. It's like bars and everything.

[D]

Oh, that's why everybody was down in Florida last week.

[E]

All that money.

[B]

That's a thing. That is a thing.

[D]

My bad. I mean, to blow it up. My bad. My bad.

[B]

That's a thing. Yeah, but no, it totally makes sense because if you really pay attention, Ian set her up from the door because she spends her whole savings to get him in the condo. His whole plan was just to steal the condo from the girl.

[D]

That's craziness.

[B]

Yeah. God, real. Plus, they both weren't that Cute.

[A]

The timer's up and good, though.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

No, you killed it.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[A]

In show news. And then we can leave this. Maximum pleasure guaranteed.

[E]

I still.

[D]

Oh, one of. It's also fire. Sorry, Karen, let me leave it.

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm just telling you, if you got nothing to watch. Quirky little dramedy. Weird. A little bit. But if it's nothing else to watch, you will enjoy it.

[D]

Margo's got money problems. Also great. Yes, also great.

[A]

Great. Where's that?

[D]

It's on Apple. It's on Apple.

[E]

Apple.

[D]

It's got.

[E]

Margo's got money problems.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

It's got the Duke.

[B]

Furious.

[D]

I haven't seen Furious yet.

[A]

Furious is on Hulu.

[D]

It's got Nicole Kidman. No. Yeah, Nicole Kidman. It's got Michelle Pfeiffer. It's got it. My man Tom.

[E]

That is funny.

[D]

From Parks and Rec.

[A]

You could have stopped in the cold.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a really, really good show. It's quirky, but kind of serious. Girls has a kid, dude doesn't want nothing to do with it. She starts only fans. Trouble ensues.

[B]

Sounds great.

[D]

Yeah, it's good.

[A]

Yeah, it's funny. Maximum guarantee. Maximum pleasure guarantee. Kind of has a little Only fans in the plot.

[E]

That Margo is funny.

[D]

It's good.

[E]

I like that one.

[A]

It's a. It's a. It's a cam soda guy, but on the show is Cam pop. It's a cam soda guy who is on cam, jerking off a whole bunch of people. So the girl, the lead character, she's one of the people that subscribe. So while she's watching him, somebody fakes his death. Like they start role playing. Somebody comes in and kills him. So she thinks he's really dead. So she goes to check on him and he's really dead.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

Oh, okay. That's the.

[A]

That's it. There's nothing else I can tell you. I told you. It's weird and quirky, but have at it.

[D]

If you watching K Fear, though, I

[A]

am on episode nine.

[C]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

I haven't finished it yet, but I'm on episode nine.

[D]

It got better. It got better.

[A]

And I'm on episode the eight or something of. Of Widows Bay. It's my new I finished album. Starting shows, getting almost to the end and kind of like blue balls. Just leave it there.

[E]

Widows Bay was my.

[D]

Yeah, mine too.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I wish that came out in the fall. Spooky vibes. I'm ready for another season already.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Lioness coming soon.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It's coming soon. Can't wait.

[A]

Lioness is coming soon.

[E]

That whole little.

[A]

Yeah, the gauntlet.

[E]

It's time to go, Mayor, Kingstown, all the shit.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

It's coming this time.

[D]

Can't wait.

[A]

Come on. Let's talk about. Let's talk about hating assholes. Yes. Miracle Watts gets married to the Tyler dude on whatever date that was the other day. And immediately the day after, some hating asshole comes to the Internet to say, hey, I was fucking on him, and he gave me $350.

[B]

That's it.

[E]

That was one of the funny parts.

[A]

You were.

[E]

Bitch said, yo, you got 350, and you got to. That fine girl.

[C]

Sounds like a win,

[D]

I guess.

[C]

I mean, that's what she said was.

[E]

Yeah, that's what she said. But I'm riding with my man. Like, I ain't see no dates. I ain't see no verifications. You showed the picture. Some pants over there by the bed. Oh, you ride with. He wasn't even.

[B]

Him.

[E]

He wasn't even there.

[C]

I don't know the story. Missing something.

[E]

Miracle Watts got married to actor dude Tyler Ly Le. Yeah, he's been in a few upand cominging things. Women find them really attractive. So a couple days after they got married, a young lady now puts out some.

[C]

But the why. That's what I'm trying to understand. Why she came out with that why?

[E]

I have no idea. Yo, but she had literally, like, text message conversations between the two. Two of them. Him sending her the hotel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Him sending her to a hotel. It was one exchange where she was like, yo, I would come, but I'm kind of on my period. And he was like, what that guy do? Oh, we got showers out here. She like, all right, I'm on my way. So she put all that out, and then she put out the. With him giving her 350. And everybody's like, yo, this got caught cheating already. Blah, blah, blah. But to my observation, there were no dates on his text messages. It could have been Texas from years ago. It was old.

[A]

No, they were dating 2023.

[E]

Yeah, it was old. Oh, see, I didn't even see that. Some new.

[A]

There were some with none. No dates, and some with dates. And the dates were 2023.

[E]

Oh, damn. But they. But their whole point was they were. They were together even. Like, it's just hating ho. Like said, bro, we had a new level in 2026 that we wasn't at in 2023.

[B]

Mm, this crazy.

[C]

Y.

[E]

No, no, you're right. I ain't got nothing to say.

[B]

Coming to the Internet with screenshots from

[E]

three years ago, it's crazy.

[B]

For what.

[E]

Coming to the Internet with screenshots is crazy. But now especially old screenshots, like, and it ain't like you only did that because you saw this dude got married.

[C]

Well, that's what I was trying to understand. Like, did she have some other premiere? It's like, you know, he lied to me.

[E]

We.

[C]

I thought we was together.

[E]

No, These niggas viral. And I'm gonna attach to it. Yeah, that's ill. That's where we are today, bro.

[B]

That's where we are today.

[E]

This.

[B]

That.

[E]

That wedding. Them wedding pictures was. And they looked great.

[C]

Especially if you knew, like, this other thing. If you knew he was with somebody the whole time, then, like, you knew.

[B]

And then the wedding pictures look great. Remember, they went viral. Just dancing in the clubs years ago. I want to watch them.

[E]

Do we all subscribe to that? To what? Like, if you are dating a woman and you know she got a husband or, you know, she got a main boyfriend and something happens attached to it. Just with y'. All, are you forever banned from really doing some sucker cause you knew she had a man or a dude?

[C]

When you frame it like that?

[E]

Sucker, as in, like, going public, snitching on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's goofy.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

I just wanted to put it on us because.

[C]

Oh.

[E]

Oh, well, absolutely. I think that shit is off. So if he wasn't lying to Shorty, I don't know if he was or he wasn't, but if he wasn't lying to Shorty and then she went public, I think that's nuts. I think if he was lying to Shorty, she would have had. She'd have threw some of that in her proof.

[C]

She tried.

[E]

It looked like she dumped whatever she had, whatever she could do to try to frame him as bad as possible, and that ain't gonna get done.

[C]

The other thing, I wonder, because, again, if he was being honest with her and she knew what she was getting into, I think putting something out is not cool. But the other thing, you have to think about if that's what happened.

[E]

And again, I don't know.

[C]

I'm here for the first time I'm thinking about his wife. You're also embarrassing her and putting her in an ugly spot. You know what I mean? I don't support any of it, but even if she had just gone to her, that's different than putting somebody on black. The usual, right? Exactly. As opposed to going on the Internet. And. And putting.

[E]

We sound like dinosaurs, right?

[C]

I don't think this dinosaur, he.

[E]

Messy Boots. Messy Boots. Nah. Let's go.

[A]

No, I'm not saying that. I'm just like, how do we always get to such an educational deep dive when some shit is just hilarious?

[C]

Yo, I just think it's fine.

[A]

If you want privacy. Nigga, you gotta pay more than 350. Number one, 350 is not getting nobody to hold some shit down. That's number one. Number two, if I gave you $350, you can't break my marriage up. Sorry. Hey, you can try. Hey, throw all the receipts out. Hey, throw the video of me fucking you out. If I gave you 350, you can't rule my marriage.

[C]

You're not a threat. You.

[A]

Not at all. Not at all. I'm telling my wife. Me and my wife laughing about it. I gave her 350 a couple years ago.

[C]

Look, look.

[A]

Clearly, she didn't use do what she was supposed to do with it. You can't break my marriage. Level up. Start a business.

[C]

Level up.

[A]

Get a nail salon, bitch. Get a laundry mat.

[E]

She was get you something. Sell pencils.

[A]

Go do something.

[E]

Evidently, she.

[A]

And if you wanted to ruin my relationship, dog, you do it before I get married. Dumb, dumb dodo. I'm married around. I'm in the game now.

[E]

That's a good point.

[B]

And in a perfect world, everybody drags her. Nobody follows her, nobody interviews her. Everybody hates her. In a perfect world.

[E]

We don't live in that world.

[B]

Exactly. So this bitch would be viral next week with her interview when. Damn, they put the towel.

[A]

That's right.

[E]

Mark.

[A]

Mark is going to do it. You know, Mark going to talk to. I'll call a girl.

[E]

Burgundy.

[A]

Burgundy Tow.

[C]

I would never do that.

[A]

Now you're going to bring her right to the content house.

[B]

When I said something about this towel.

[C]

When I said, somebody for the appearance fear 350, I said, oh, he freaky.

[B]

You said, that's not freaky. Then what is it? The fact that he would hit a strange. Like it's a random. Like a random.

[C]

I don't know if she random or not. I assume it was random. She ain't random if they.

[A]

She ain't random if he on a period. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

That's my point.

[A]

And we don't know that he did that.

[C]

But I'm just saying if she was saying that's freaky. I'm saying I don't. That doesn't go on a freaky list to me. What is it? It's Tuesday. Like, I don't think we all do that. Have done that. I don't. Cause y' all wouldn't have to.

[E]

We all.

[B]

Speak for yourself.

[C]

You've never had sex on your period before?

[B]

Hell no.

[C]

Raise your hand if you believe that.

[B]

I don't give a fuck what y' all believe in. Here.

[A]

Yo, can you put in NewJersey.com that Mona be fucking on her period? Oh, hell, please don't. Please don't, sir. Look, now she. Now she care, right? That's how I feel when you go to the hood.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

All right. Damn. Anyway, listen. What else is important, unimportant? What else needs our attention up there?

[C]

You know who needs our attention?

[B]

Max.

[C]

Oh, what is two? What is. I don't know what you think I'm about to talk about. I was actually talking about. What's his name?

[D]

Tony Romo.

[B]

Yeah, I want to talk about.

[C]

Let's do that. Let's actually do that. I was going somewhere. I was going back to the basketball world with the Stephen A. Stuff and apologizing to Kyrie. And I was also thinking about this Kawaii. But we can go to Tony Romo first. He had a dwi.

[D]

Dwai, I believe, or dw. It was not a dwi. It was affiliate.

[E]

That shit was funny.

[A]

That what he.

[B]

They.

[D]

They.

[C]

He.

[D]

He blew something light. It wasn't crazy, but they made him do the whole tests. The. You know.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And the. The funny part was really the punchline. Hold on.

[B]

Cuz they asked him about his. His concussions?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That funny.

[D]

Hold on a second.

[E]

Park's got it for us.

[B]

Come on.

[D]

I hate people.

[B]

We could see that, though. I hate that. We could just watch each other.

[D]

Got him doing football drills and. This is crazy.

[B]

Don't show me drunk on the side of the road. No dui.

[D]

Nah, you should.

[E]

You.

[C]

You might be the funniest person in the world.

[B]

Probably ain't happening.

[E]

Depending on what city.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz they get to whooping your ass in the right city, it won't be funny to whooping my ass.

[E]

I want to get pulled over in Atlantic City. Might go a little different.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

I be crazy.

[B]

Hey, city. This is crazy.

[D]

So they put him through the whole run through, and then this is kind of where it culminates.

[A]

Did I pass this test?

[B]

You turn around.

[E]

No, I didn't.

[C]

That's funny.

[B]

Oh, did you see all the edits they made when he asked about. When they asked about the concussion? Like they. Like he thinking about all the little plays when he got his head knocked off. And don't know about y', all, but I hate the fact that that's like, public knowledge, like those arrests. I don't get the point. What is the point of us seeing people DUIs?

[D]

What's the point? I agree. I'm. I'm joking, but I agree.

[A]

Y. Crazy as hell.

[D]

This one was pretty funny. So I wasn't mad at talking about

[B]

celebrities, but just in general, why can we watch our.

[A]

Some of my favorite TV shows of all time just consist of.

[C]

Of.

[A]

Yes, the wild crazy chases, wild police pullover stops. Like, they're great shows like that. And this was rather innocent.

[E]

It was innocent.

[A]

This is after the fact. We didn't learn about it, like, in real time. Tony Romo was still him. It's still Tony Romo. I would like for somebody to put an APB out on where Mark Sanchez is or at least put all the paparazzi in front of Mark Sanchez house. At least wait for him to come out the house.

[D]

I don't like that he's got to step away from his. His role at CBS or whatever.

[C]

He's on suspension.

[A]

Mark Sanchez. Oh, nigga, ain't no story with Tony Roman. The white guy got drunk, got behind the wheel. Yeah, who get a hands about Tony Romo? He had a beer, he had a butt. The white guys have a bex and they take lose drive. They drive a golf cart or some. Who the cares about that?

[D]

Mark Sanchez, he was wild the fuck

[A]

out, but he's been allowed to go and. And just be home. What do, though?

[E]

Whip some ass.

[C]

He stabbed the old guy.

[A]

What do you mean, whip some ass? No, they weren't fighting. This guy was doing his job, making a delivery in New Orleans that weekend. He was sitting in a truck and drunk. Mark Sanchez opened the door, pulled him out, started punching on him.

[C]

The guy was 69 years old.

[A]

Yeah, I remember we talked about it.

[D]

It wasn't that long ago.

[A]

Yeah, it really wasn't up. And. And Mark Sanchez has been able to just go home and lay on a craft matic and nobody's seen him. Nobody said a peep that. That me up when I'm home. I ain't gonna lie. Sometimes because we pod so much and we talk about so much randomly, a news story will pop in my head that we covered, and I'll be like, well, that was the end of that. Yeah.

[E]

No, no, no.

[A]

No update, nothing. That was the end of that coverage. Nobody cares anymore. No update. We don't get to see the guy Just go.

[C]

To tell you the truth.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

It was just last October. It was October 2020.

[E]

What that mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Took care of the right one.

[C]

When you forget about a story they wanted you to.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Job well done.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, actually. Oh, his what? AI said his trial got delayed five times.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And now his new trial date is September 8th.

[A]

Delay it again.

[E]

They start. Keep delaying it, get it out of mind.

[B]

That's how you do.

[E]

Marry Indiana. Yeah, that's. That's one of the things I want to ask you.

[A]

You're gonna think I'm trying to be funny, but I'm not. I want to ask you. Do you still feel the way that you felt about Luigi? About. About his case?

[E]

I haven't been following it. Well, did some new updates, some new stuff happen?

[A]

Oh, no, not necessarily.

[B]

I would love to know what he thinks about.

[E]

I still feel the same.

[B]

You was Team Luigi, right?

[E]

Based on the stuff that I heard and the stuff that I've read.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, I wasn't saying I'm team Luigi. I'm not saying that. I just think that it's more to it than what they gave us.

[C]

You don't think he did it or.

[E]

If he did it, he. He ain't Dolo.

[C]

Because Ice was with Ice used all that same time. Right? Yeah, they. They were saying that it didn't add up, particularly like the man.

[A]

I'm not bringing that up.

[B]

Please bring it up.

[A]

No, I'm not doing it. It's Old Family guy. That. That guy.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I don't even know.

[A]

And I'm sure your stance has changed on the.

[D]

I would hope so.

[A]

Yeah. No, he's. He's up shit's creek. He's over.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, I think I know what you're talking about, But I never was team. I'm just saying, like, yo, dog, I just believe in you.

[A]

Just believe in letting the due process play out.

[E]

Let process play out again. And I think us, as black people, we should all stand in letting due process play it out, because so many of us have been falsely convicted that I don't think that's asinine for me to add that to.

[C]

Yeah. But since then, so much evidence has come out, then that's a whole different. Exactly.

[B]

But, yeah, even if we do like

[E]

these processes, we still get.

[A]

That makes sense. That does make sense. I mean, I guess for me, there's sometimes where. The hell with it.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, is there never a case that pops up that makes you say, the hell with the due process?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Got it.

[E]

Anything with Kids for me

[B]

killing.

[E]

Because like that this David case.

[A]

Yeah, David, Yeah, he was a. The hell with it.

[E]

The hell with it.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

No, what I'm saying, but I'm not

[A]

mad at what you're saying.

[E]

Yeah, what I'm saying is due process. That is the right way to be. Think about this, yo, media attention. Money pays for media attention. The more the media tell us stuff, it could sway your opinion. So again, if a black person, Central Park 5, my. They put tons and tons and tons of money and media behind convicting these fucking five black kids. I'm, I'm not. I don't stand on that. And they had, quote, unquote.

[A]

I like that.

[E]

All of the evidence that.

[A]

I like that example, though, in, in the Central park five case, if they would have checked that lady's vagina and found five black penises, that to me is the equivalent of the David case.

[E]

No, I'm, I'm not now, but prior to.

[C]

For me, he said when the David news initially came out, he didn't have all evidence, wasn't here yet. He wanted to hear more. I, I don't disagree with that.

[B]

Have y' all heard the stuff of David Case with like the jokes?

[A]

Are y' all trying to not talking to Mike?

[B]

Have y' all heard the jokes? I mean, have y' all heard the evidence that came out talking about how she would like play with him about serious things? Have y' all heard.

[C]

I didn't see that part. Yeah, I've actually stayed away from the story a little bit. I mean, I read the details, but I find it so chilling. It is, you know, it's tough.

[A]

It's tough to keep up. It's tough to read.

[E]

Well, speaking. Speaking of your stance changing on people, do you still have your Pablo Torre stance? Because he's still at it with Kawhi Leonard.

[C]

Pablo, light them niggas up.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, me, Yeah. I just think that. I don't know. I think that. I think that when you put in your resources behind this, like, have you already found them guilty or whatever you found him guilty of? And they just keep coming up with more and more and more shit. I just don't know what your end goal is. What's your end goal? Your end goal is what? To destroy their life. Because it could potentially have mass effects on his life. And he athlete playing basketball and if he get caught cheating. He got caught cheating, whatever the case may be. I just look at it like, what do you call gain from this?

[C]

I see it different.

[D]

Yeah, I feel like he's going to balmer more than Kawhi. Happens to be collateral damage.

[C]

Collateral damage? Yeah. I don't think it's about Kawhi.

[E]

I don't either.

[C]

I. I don't think kawhi is his target. But also, I think it would be up if he found other Kawhi had done. Like, if he's like, you know, let me see if this nigga's cheating on his taxes. Let me go see if he did. This is the same case. And. And to your point, I think it's more about the clippers and ballmer than it is about Kawhi. Like, Kawhi's not gonna get any more trouble. They're just unpacking more evidence to show how deep this particular thing goes. I'm okay with that. I mean, at some point, it's gonna run out of steam anyway. The other thing is, there are people like Mark Cuban and others.

[E]

They're getting new cabooses on the end of the train. Every time it run out of steam,

[C]

they add more pieces, but not more to Kawhi. I guess that's what I'm saying. So I think, for me, it's also because there's so many powerful people saying this isn't true. Like, the Mark Cuban came out. I don't think everyone has accepted that kawhi did something wrong and that ballmer did something wrong or anything like that. I think there's still a lot of people saying it's not true. So I think he's still making his case in a lot of ways. That's what it seemed like to me.

[E]

Yo, you saying it's not a lot like, yo, his. His current contract could be nullified. It's a couple hundred million dollars. They already blocked the trade. Yeah, like, we saying that, like, oh, this is a slap on the wrist for this man. I didn't say that.

[C]

No, I didn't say that at all.

[E]

Got you.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

No, I think me potentially losing a couple hundred million dollars is significant.

[C]

Yeah. I'm saying the same thing at this

[E]

stage in his career, but who's to say?

[A]

Oh, go ahead, Go ahead.

[D]

If he was. If this contract was to be nullified, I'm sure there's a team that would still pay him probably comparable, if not more, if not more, maybe. Yeah.

[A]

Depending on what the league's punishment is. That's the word on the raptors. The raptors are pausing the trade. Cause we don't know what the punishment is, and we don't know that we want to be on the hook for It. But other than that, sans that, yeah, everybody would fucking pay Kawhi, right? Yeah.

[E]

But if they.

[A]

If they come to the Knicks on

[E]

the vet minimum, and that's the point, a vet minimum he will have.

[D]

There's a team that would pay him more.

[A]

He's not getting a bit minimum, but

[E]

let's just say the NBA for two years, then what now that, that, that tanks his value significantly. He already long and long in the tooth now, like, yo, another two years of not playing active basketball now devalues you significantly.

[D]

If that happens.

[A]

My question to you, Ish, is, is this. And I got. I think I got a good understanding of what you're saying. My question is, so is it. Is it your belief across the board that if a job, if you have a job because Pablo is an investigative reporter, journalist or whatever, if you have a job that in doing such could hurt someone else, you should find a different way to do it, or is that strictly for Pablo in this situation with investigative journalism?

[E]

I think when he came up here and we asked him specific questions, my question always was the why are you doing this? And his answer was, and then, and I think I might have been ice that said, yo, it's other teams doing it too. And he was like, yeah, they are doing it, but they're not doing it to the level of where they're doing it. And so my point was, how do you know that? Like, nobody would have thought that they was doing it to the level they did it until you did this. All this forensic auditing and all this other shit to discover it. So.

[A]

And I think he said that Ballmer doing it is different from anybody doing it because he's got all the money.

[E]

They all have all the money. We're not gonna sit up here in this podcast where we talk about all this capitalistic shit and argue that this billionaire right here is worth way more money than this billionaire right here. We talking about they all are filthy

[C]

fucking rich at that level. You're right. But I think the question is, when we're talking about in the context of this game where there's 26 people and some have more power and influence to put the thumb on the scale than others, I do think the difference between 50 billion and 2 billion matters. I don't think in terms of life, it does. I think you're right. But in terms of, like, the game, he's saying Ballmer can do something that the Milwaukee. I'm just saying the Milwaukee Bucks or the Denver Nuggets, whoever, I don't know their Money can't. And I think that's important also, by the way. I mean, Kawhi's on year three of that three year deal. This is the last year. So even if they nullified the contract, it's almost impossible they'd be asking him to give the money back. So another, they would have to suspend

[A]

him for a year.

[E]

They'd have to give him a long suspend.

[A]

They'd have to find something to do.

[C]

Suspending a guy. 30. How old is Kawhi now?

[E]

30 something.

[C]

30 something at this stage of his career. I mean, he don't play for 30 games a year anyway. And he's made all the money. I'm just saying. And he did do it. That's the other thing. I could see it if he was being framed. I mean, he actually did do the thing that is breaking the rules. We can't forget that either. And the game don't work. Now, I agree with you, Ish, that

[E]

he ain't the only one.

[C]

He ain't the only one. But let me ask you a question. If Pablo says, you know what Ish, you're right, I'm now going to go look at all the other teams in the league and do the exact same thing that I just did to the Clippers. Would you then be comfortable with Pablo?

[B]

No, that doesn't change. Kawat.

[C]

Why would he?

[E]

Yeah, like, yeah, yo, look at the team. I, I guess I just think that Kawhi being. This is, this is my thing and this is going to go back to y' all and say, this is not an excuse. I just think that if all 50 teams are doing it right for you to single out one team to make an example of them, I just think that that's unfair.

[C]

Well, that's what I'm asking. If he would go to all the teams, would you then be okay with it?

[E]

If that's just what he started doing, Yeah. I still think he gonna rap, but that's my point.

[C]

So it's not about the single rat,

[E]

but no, but then you, you are across the board handling the situation with the same equitable interest, right? So that's cool. If that's your job, that's what you're doing. But you doing this over here, it almost looks like somebody paid you to target them. That's what I took and that's what I said.

[C]

I don't think that's what it is. I mean, I can tell you, and again, I've never done this kind of journalism, so I don't have any expertise in this But I do have colleagues who do.

[E]

I eat feta cheese.

[C]

I don't eat the super sack.

[A]

Go ahead.

[C]

Don't listen to I report. I've never done investigative work.

[A]

You just finished doing investigative work.

[C]

No, I'm talking about like an investigative. Every interview is investigative at that level. I'm talking about where you do a forensic, like, study of somebody and trace stuff behind asking somebody questions. I mean, that ain't no investig anybody

[A]

of us could do. You do my type of investigator. I like your investigation.

[C]

But my point is, a lot of times the reason you jump on a particular case is because there's a huge red flag. You know, there was something so odd about what the Clippers did. And that's what Pablo said, that it

[E]

made you start sniffing like it was. It was very small. Going to Philly for way more. Less money than could have got other places.

[A]

Oh, that should be next on the list.

[E]

That's after the Brunson.

[C]

If that looks suspicious to you, then I think we should drill down on it. If. Because I think that should be second on the list after Jalen. Hey, hey. But like, if it looks suspicious, sure. But one little flag. One little. Enough. When you listen to him talk about what the Clippers.

[E]

I mean, he found that.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

You get what I'm saying?

[C]

But that's what I'm saying. You see one thing and then you go, you know what? This don't add up. Wait, why does he have that? Why did he buy that team? Wait, he named his email that. Oh, wait, he bought that interest, and

[E]

then he named the LLC that.

[C]

Right, that was the. And then the more you discipline, the crazier it gets. You just can't stop looking at it. And I get why. Part of you does say, well, are the spurs doing this? Are the Knicks doing this? Are the Sixers doing this? But part of you says, let me keep finding out what the Clippers are doing, because this shit is so, so crazy. It's like a dog with a.

[E]

Part of it is like, I know you see something so dumb. Like. Like, I know damn well the LLC is. Wait, no, they didn't do this.

[A]

No, they didn't.

[E]

Okay, hold on.

[B]

What?

[E]

Wait, now it's this football club. Wait, what is. H Y, Y. Y' all joking, right? Where the tree farm at right now? Y' all joking, right? Hey, come on. One apple growing in the.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

KW Aspire Scam LLC.

[A]

Like, yeah, sorry.

[D]

Real, real. Look into this.

[E]

KW3.

[C]

Yeah, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

No, I mean, good luck to them, I guess.

[C]

Good luck to them. Another person we've been talking about speaking of basketball is Stephen A. Smith. He issued an apology this afternoon or yesterday? Excuse me?

[E]

Yesterday.

[C]

To. To Kyrie Irving.

[B]

Can we.

[C]

Do we play a little bit of the clip?

[E]

Do we have to? I'm sorry.

[B]

Yes, please play the clip.

[E]

I think it was mature. I think it was needed. I think it was him holding himself accountable. I appreciated it.

[B]

I hate when you use your grown man voice. I hate it.

[E]

That's why you always use yours.

[C]

It's cool.

[B]

My.

[C]

That's a good one.

[B]

All right, no more. Yes. Now.

[E]

Why you got your face.

[B]

20 minutes.

[E]

What you got?

[A]

I almost feel like this is like a joke.

[D]

Do you want me to play this or. Yeah, okay.

[E]

No. Develop and ascend. He wasn't really, really needed.

[A]

So Kyrie Irving eventually will be back

[E]

next season and he'll be the superstar God that we know him to be. A scoring machine, one of the greatest handles we've ever witnessed, one of the greatest skills in NBA history. But this is not about him.

[D]

The basketball player, I guess.

[E]

What's up everybody?

[A]

Y. Turn this off. I'm not listening to him. I'm not listening to this. I mean, let your. I feel like I got to be played. I'll go pee or something.

[C]

No, no, no. It's all good.

[E]

I think it's a conversation that we should have.

[D]

We can talk about it. Cuz I'm. I. I have thoughts. It felt like as Stephen A. Is trying to get into good graces with the right. He's doing this to kind of fall into that to me. Because what's happening with Fauci right now, I don't know whether he's guilty or not, but he's not responding to anything on. On testimony. Yeah, they not really providing real evidence. Back to your evidence point. So why does he have to. He should apologize to Qu. Or to. To Kyrie. I. I agree with that 100%. It's just the why now?

[C]

And that's what I don't like about it.

[A]

Weird. Yes, I agree. I feel like a lot of what Stephen A Be doing just has these political agendas. 1, 2. You've already apologized to Kyrie.

[C]

He did.

[D]

Oh, he did?

[A]

Yes. No, he did a bunch of times. A bunch of times. He went on tv. He gave the whole speech about the people that we have some mutual people in common. Some of the OGs that raised me, raised Kyrie's dad and they pulled me to the side. Kenny Smith pulled me to the side, said, you know what? You was out of line for how you did that and what my thing is about Stephen A, he went in on Kyrie for over a year and a half. For over a year and a half when we were facing a fucking worldwide. A national pandemic. National.

[D]

Global.

[C]

International.

[A]

Yeah, International. I'm sorry. Global. International. Global pandemic. Right? Where everybody should. Should have had the right to describe how they wanted to handle their health. Like, Kyrie is married. Some of the things he was stating was, we don't know the effects that this will have long term on my baby, if we having a baby, or my wife. And I mean, I'm sorry, but the game of basketball doesn't come first. We don't need to hear from Stephen A. No more about Kyrie. Kyrie too real of a nigga.

[C]

You did it.

[A]

You kicked his bag in. You said he wasn't shit. You said he should put a ring before. Is that you said all of this stuff. So to come back now all of these years later with yo, I owe Kyrie an apology is performative. It just comes off fake. This shit is whack.

[D]

Especially, like I said, coming off. The reason why he did it is because Fauci's on.

[C]

Yeah, well, there's two reasons. But, see, there's the Fauci attack and then there's the White House releasing the

[A]

Stephen A is my man. But I don't like all that political J shit is asked.

[C]

Yeah, and that's. That's my point. My point. Bringing it up isn't to celebrate Stephen A's apology. It's to say there's something else the north remembers. Yeah.

[E]

Yes.

[C]

There's something else afoot here. And it's Game of Thrones.

[B]

He watching.

[C]

I never watched it, but I know the reference.

[E]

He watching. Yo, he watching.

[C]

But, yeah, it's the Fauci witch hunt, which is happening right now. And it is the White House just yesterday releasing a report, or what they call. They tweeted out, like, the Truth about COVID or something like that. I haven't read it yet.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

But it's clearly playing to a certain political base, and it seems very clear that Stephen A. Is trying to be in conversation. I'm not even talking about whether the report's true or not. I'm just saying Stephen A's timing is very convenient. He's not apologizing to Kyrie for the third time today just because he felt bad. Today he's doing his job.

[A]

You know what? My thing is, too, in the content space. And I only speak for me, like, when it's well established that somebody don't with you. Like, past just I'm not with you, then it's over. It's over. It's not for you to keep bringing their name up. It's not for you to. I don't think that Kyrie should be the last name that Stephen A. Says with how he behaved during that. He should never want to say Kyrie.

[E]

So. So let me ask you, because now we just. In objective land, the stuff that Fauci has done, even for people that were heavily in support of Fauci, him getting up there, pleading the fifth, 77,000 times in a row, all of those things, it turned people and it swayed people. So now if. If. Cause you might be. You guys might be right. Like, it could be something he's doing performative to appeal to the Republican base. Cool. But let's just say, as a black man to another black man, I got up here publicly and dissed him twice. So I'm not on his team. I'm just saying, let's say he does feel some level of accountability toward how he dragged him. And now he gets on his platform, the same big platform that he used to shit on him, to apologize to him based on the new discoveries by the CDC and Fauci.

[A]

Because I guarantee he didn't call Kyrie.

[E]

I don't know. Yeah, but just. Even if he did, though, he did apologize as loud as a disrespect. I know you don't. I know you don't with that.

[A]

Yeah, I know you don't. I don't with that at all. And I can almost assure that Kyrie don't with it. Let's pretend that they was having a conversation. Stephen A. And Kyrie. And Stephen A. Said, you know what, man? I want to make the. I want to make the respect as loud. I want to go on my channel 100 said, no, it still don't stop

[E]

with Stephen they might feel is appropriate

[C]

personally for him.

[B]

It should stop him right there.

[E]

Personally, if I. If I it on you publicly, even if we squash it behind the scenes because so many people watched me do it, I also want to clear that position up just to say, yo, I was wrong.

[D]

Just for a little bit of clarity for the Newark couch. This video is 19 minutes long. The apology comes within 31st 30 seconds. And the rest of the video is about the Fauci.

[C]

That's my point.

[E]

Unquote.

[A]

Yeah, he didn't need to mention Kyrie.

[D]

This is the headline to get people.

[B]

That's a new come on this podcast and say that couch smells like. And then I called you and I apologized about it, and you said, yo, don't bring. You especially you say, yo, don't bring that back on the podcast. It's just gonna bring it back alive tomorrow. This apology means enough to me. If you still go on. If I still go on and make the apology on the podcast, knowing that people gonna just bring up the fact that y' all smell like again, that's for me. That's not for you. If the apology is for you, then we're gonna leave it right then and there, because I agree. But I think that Kyrie seems like the kind of guy that the apology face to face is what matters to him, not the public one.

[A]

And this is some of the same behavior that LeBron pointed out when he stepped to him at that fucking Celtic game, or I think that was a Celtic game. He's saying, yo, you know how I rock with you. We don't really jive. You know that, cuz we've spoken about it. The world don't have to know, but you and I know. So for you to continue with this Bronny James or whatever the fuck he was saying at the LeBron is like, yeah, as a dad now, I'm stepping you because you know where I stand with you. And you still speaking me and my family's name for what? Kyrie is on that list. Kevin Durant is on that list. Stephen A. Has compiled a list. There's a list of people. Yeah, dog, you made all your money. You got your contracts. You can now do your job. You got all the shows in the world. You're one of the biggest content creators out there. You can do your job without mentioning these people. You can't.

[C]

And that's why I say this is a Sunday. It comes off bad and it comes off cynical to me, again, like, there's a bunch of people after the COVID stuff came out and after the Fauci stuff has happened, who were. Who are running a victory lap or who were saying we were right or whatever they're saying. Right. Stephen A. Wants them to know that he's with them. And so this is his way of doing it. This is about triangulating the audience. This is about making money.

[B]

Triangulation.

[C]

Yeah, this is. This is clearly. It's so cynical and strategic. It's not something surprising. But is. Is this.

[A]

And if we own an apology tour, then all right, go apologize to Joy. Like, if you want an apology to her, there are some names that you probably may owe an Apology. If you just think long enough when you go to sleep at night.

[E]

Shit. I tell you, I, I, I looked at the White House shit and I read some of that. I'm sitting there like, damn, let me see if I can get this Moderna out now. They got some. I can go ahead and get this Moderna out a little bit.

[C]

What did the report say? I literally didn't, didn't read it. I just saw that it came out.

[E]

It's been a bunch of shit. This is not new.

[C]

Nothing new. Okay.

[E]

It's been a bunch of the CDC has been putting out literally for the last year or two talking about the effects of the vaccines.

[C]

Okay, see you.

[E]

You can get it out

[C]

how?

[E]

I mean it's a bunch of shit.

[C]

For real.

[D]

For real.

[A]

To get it out, but good old shit.

[C]

You mean get it your body. Yeah, yeah. Take that back away.

[E]

Get some little, get some to.

[C]

I'll get you down.

[E]

Get this to go get it right. Always back to the to to get it right about.

[C]

You go right to that truck downstairs. You be good.

[E]

Little nasty, but

[A]

little forehead sweat you. Yeah, you good though. That's slap. Good show today y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

It was good.

[A]

Good show, good vibes, good energy.

[D]

The write up's good.

[A]

New Jersey.com hold us down, man.

[D]

Make us sound better than we are.

[C]

So he's going to do some one on ones with each of us privately.

[D]

So you can leave like the butt cleaning part to like maybe say it was like a brief conversation about butt cleaning.

[B]

I'll ball up and throw a napkin at you when I walk past. Gone. I got you.

[A]

It better be a positive write up or else. Or else I'm going suggest you go sit with Albie. Al. That's a cool one.

[C]

In the basement.

[A]

What are y', all, what are y' all on this weekend? What are y' all on this weekend?

[D]

Right.

[A]

Work.

[D]

I'm out. I'm on vacation.

[B]

Yes,

[D]

A little quick Turks.

[B]

Are you going to be back by the next time I come back taking a jack. So I'll see you.

[D]

I'm taking a a a a commercial. I don't have jack money. The

[C]

stumbling mumbling.

[B]

We on to you.

[C]

Oh yeah. He rich rich.

[A]

When you back? Rich rich Monday.

[D]

Quick at enough. That's what I need.

[B]

That's what I need.

[D]

Come on. Come on down.

[A]

Listen, Rim was talking to Jade. We were, we were thinking.

[D]

Oh, were you sure?

[A]

Yes, the girls be talking.

[D]

Yeah, I know they do.

[C]

I do.

[D]

I love that by the way.

[A]

Yeah, no, we was real quick it. Yeah, no it's bad weekend, but good idea. You got the right idea. Freeze. What you want?

[E]

I'm going to this gaming tournament at Microsoft over the weekend. Oh, yeah. They invited me, too. Yeah, I'll be out there.

[D]

You play games.

[A]

They invited you because they seen the size of that laptop, right?

[D]

Oh, we got a big screen down here.

[A]

What you on this weekend is.

[E]

Yeah, that's funny.

[A]

I'm going D.C. god damn Mark and

[C]

a whole bunch of nothing family stuff and just trying to rest, recover.

[A]

Mona.

[B]

I mean my secrets to get my dress made for the drove extravaganza. Hey, I'm not playing. I'm stepping. And I recommend y' all do the same.

[D]

Oh, I'm stepping.

[E]

Oh, no, we stepping.

[A]

We all stepping. I'm just trying to figure out how we stepping.

[E]

I got the.

[B]

Do y' all know what y' all wearing? Do you have ideas?

[E]

Hell, no. I got that.

[D]

I mean, black tie is only.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But a couple things you should. You could get freaky with it. But I don't know if I'm gonna go free all the way. Ice Freeze. You know, I mean, gold jacket.

[B]

I'm excited.

[A]

This.

[E]

I wouldn't do that. Hey, yo, if you wore that gold to Joe, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that.

[A]

Come on now.

[E]

Have some type of standard with me.

[B]

I'm so excited to do my.

[A]

It would be speech at the party.

[C]

You said speech?

[B]

Yes.

[E]

You're giving a speech?

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Oh, I can't wait.

[E]

How many people you coming with?

[B]

20, 30 people. Same thing.

[A]

More to bring in.

[B]

Exactly. I'm trying to get his in there. I got to get this money. This in there, man. I got to show my talents. I might come in that to the thong going, I don't know. Entertainment.

[A]

Why do I always think that Tears for Fears sings. Know this much is true Know this much is tr.

[D]

I don't know if I know that

[A]

I know this much is true True. That's Spado. Who sings that? That song?

[D]

Damn, I don't know. Yeah, it's one hit wonder. Must be.

[E]

They all look the same.

[C]

You got it right. Spand out Ballet.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[D]

Who know?

[A]

Spell it for me.

[C]

S, P, A, N, D, A, U. And here we go.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

B, A, L, L, E, T. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, rest in peace. Kavinsky, too, while we're here real quick. Forgot about that one.

[A]

I usually rely on Mark to tell me who died.

[D]

Kis like electronic music producer. He did the Drive soundtrack. I don't remember that movie.

[A]

I remember Drive.

[D]

Yeah. He's got songs with weekend, and you've heard him, but you maybe didn't know it was him.

[A]

Got it. Got it. Rest in peace.

[D]

Rest in peace.

[A]

I don't have too much going on this weekend. My baby went to load her daughter into school. She's in Mississippi. Oh, nah, nah. Congratulations. Kill it out there.

[C]

Congrats.

[A]

But damn, man, I'm missing some so much, man. Just a Friday night to myself.

[D]

Oh, man, what are you going to do? Probably got the house myself.

[E]

Yo, you going to be all right?

[A]

No. Yeah, man, I'll survive. But everything feels different without her, man. Showering.

[E]

You got singles eating.

[D]

She leave the dog.

[A]

See Good mango. No, man.

[D]

Took the dog with you?

[A]

No, she left the dog.

[D]

Oh, okay.

[E]

So you get the problem with the dog. There you go.

[A]

That dog act like he don't know who I am when she ain't there. Oh, that dog go high in a whole nother room. Don't. Don't talk, don't bark. Yes. That dog is her dog. Yo, I'm totally against rescue dogs, by the way.

[C]

I feel like I should say that.

[D]

Oh, we should.

[A]

I am totally against rescue dogs.

[B]

Said no person ever.

[C]

I think you shouldn't say that.

[D]

I got rescue cats.

[C]

He pulled out his notepad again.

[A]

Great. What? Yes. If you want a dog, go buy a dog.

[D]

Nah, get you a rescue.

[A]

Don't go. Oh, please. You'll never know.

[B]

Cat with three legs and a no tail.

[A]

The dog name used to be Rick. That let me know that the previous owner was beating the dog out of him.

[C]

How they know what the whole name was?

[A]

Cuz when she got the rescue dog,

[E]

they told her and they changed the name.

[A]

My girl changed the name of the

[E]

dog answering the Rick for four years now. Y' all gonna call him.

[A]

Oh,

[B]

what the. I do.

[A]

But a rescue dog? There's no way to know the abuse that the previous owner put him through. It's going to be there for life.

[E]

You ain't stop.

[B]

Cut that out.

[A]

What you did, you laid. I already did that. Yeah, so I'm against rescue dog.

[E]

That ain't stop us from dating.

[A]

Yo, listen, Rescue dick, keep us in. Rescue dick to my rescue dog.

[B]

You the rescue dick.

[A]

Listen, keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell. Adios, Aviva Dirgi. Hasta la vista arvois. So long goodbye or simple head novel suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments, and moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. And last but Certainly not least the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel in the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you with Tylenol. You may need it. We want to thank Big Pat New Jersey dot com. We. We hope that we showed you a great time. We'll read what you have to say later to the fans. Thank you, thank you, thank you to Forbes. Thank you, thank you. Dick Wolf. Thank you, thank you. Thank you for playing with him. Yeah, yeah, listen, man, thank you too, again.

[E]

Thank you.

[A]

Nothing is possible, possible without the fans. Nothing is possible without y'. All. Same time, same place next week. Y' all hold it down. Remember, the goal is to get home. The goal is to get home to your family. The weather is hot. The streets are hotter. Head on a swivel at all times. And that's all I got for y', all, man. Y' all hold it down. Let the saxophone take us out of here. Yeah, you know we here for. Give me that hook. But now I've come back again

[C]

why

[A]

do I find it hard to write? I'm sorry. I feel like it's sacrilegious almost to cut it off before you get into it. This much is true who? This much is true who? Hey, hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute now. This much is true. Hey, there we go. Wait a minute. Ow. I could tell who didn't have a car radio. I could tell who didn't have light FM on in the car. Don't worry.

[D]

Bad job, Kitchen job,

[A]

stock boy and Walgreens. Six in the morning. Hey, same time, same place next week, y' all. Hold it down, man. Take it from number 15 on the list. The bottom hundred coming soon. Pause.

[B]

Button. Enough of that.

[A]

You've never heard of Joe Button? Jbp.

[B]

Jbp? Where would you be without the jbp?

[C]

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